Sunday Overnight Open Thread (1/26/20)

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The Quotes of The Day

Quote I

“We have been consistently concerned about the impacts of technology and automation on the livelihoods of working people, especially when they have no voice in how technology is used in their workplaces, Graham Trainor, president of the Oregon AFL-CIO

Quote II

"Increasing housing and ensuring equity across our City is my top priority, which is why I am so proud to open San Francisco’s first Trans Home on Washington Street. This new program will provide trans people with the safety and support they as they find a permanent home in San Francisco," Mayor London Breed

Quote III

“I’ve been in a lot of dangerous situations, both in and out of the Marines and I’m confident in my ability to handle them. But it doesn’t mean I wasn’t afraid of her.”Ben Feibleman, Former Marine and Columbia University student

Quote IV

"All states have their own protections for waters within their borders, and many regulate more broadly than the federal government," "Our new rule recognizes this relationship and strikes the proper balance between Washington, D.C., and the states." Environmental Protection Agency chief Andy Wheeler

Quote V

“I don’t suffer fools gladly. I’m honest and I’m truthful and I told him straight away he couldn’t be a freeloader. Iris Jones, a British pensioner aged 80

Quote VI

“But to me, when I see the president do this, you know, as someone who’s been around awhile, I saw Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan didn’t do this. George W. Bush, his dad [George H.W. Bush], none of them did it. Why does Donald Trump think that this is good? It divides the country.” Juan Williams

I got booted off of Twitter for asking him if he was retarded. I should have told him to pull his head out of his ass at the same time.

Divisive?

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“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” The life and times of H.L. Mencken.

In this age of dim digitized media in which E.J. Dionne and David Brooks are honored as distinguished columnists, the byline Henry Louis Mencken is virtually forgotten. Mencken, who died in his sleep 64 years ago this week after listening to Die Meistersinger on the Saturday afternoon broadcast from the Metropolitan Opera, is unlikely to be remembered by the mediacrats who abhor everything the man stood for.
Yet Mencken in the 1920s was one of the most celebrated figures in America, and even the western world. The erstwhile bad boy of Baltimore has been alternatively described as a ‘Jeremiah come to pass judgment’ on a decadent and mentally paralyzed America, the ‘American Nietzsche’, the heir to Voltaire and Swift, the greatest journalist of his time, a Communist agitator and the secular Antichrist.

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Don't let Florida Man paint your house. And so you have been warned.

Someone turned a $500,000 home in Florida into a multicolored mess, and now the community is taking legal action.
Saturday, January 25, 2020 1:35PM
NAPLES, Fla. -- Talk about extreme makeover, home edition!
Someone turned a $500,000 home in Florida into a multicolored mess, and now the community is taking legal action.
With paint splattered and sprayed in multiple bright colors all over the house, trees, lawn and mailbox, the home in the small community of Il Regalo Circle in Naples looks like something out of a cartoon.
The man who owns the house is 40-year-old Jeffrey Leibman, according to the Collier County Property Appraiser.
Neighbor Alan Klawans told WBBH-TV this unique paint job happened over the course of a week.
"I can't tell you," he said. "Obviously has a drug issue or something going on because I have just never seen anything like this in my life."
The "artist" even spray-painted "Who is Omar?" on the side of a van parked out front.

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Low Carbon Tail Lights H/T redc1c4

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As we fight the global war on terror. I'm relieved that our enemy is also fighting the global war of climate change.

Terrorist group al Shabaab has banned single-use plastic bags.
The Somali militant Islamist group, which has links to al Qaeda, has long had an interest in environmental issues.
It made the official announcement on Radio Andalus, which is operated by al Shabaab.

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Earlier today our very own Charlie Brown's Dildo had a great thread on "CoronaVirus: A Shep Smith Special Report —CBD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! RUN AWAY! However, if you remain concerned on its location, check out this link. H/T Hank Curmudgeon

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When the government gets into the business of business, the government loses.

Looks like another federally backed solar energy plant has gone bust. Bloomberg News reports, “A $1 Billion Solar Plant Was Obsolete Before It Ever Went Online.”
In 2011 the $1 billion [Crescent Dunes] project was to be the biggest solar plant of its kind, and it looked like the future of renewable power. Citigroup Inc. and other financiers invested $140 million with its developer, SolarReserve Inc. Steven Chu, the U.S. Department of Energy secretary at the time, offered the company [$737 million in] government loan guarantees, and Harry Reid, then the Senate majority leader and senior senator from Nevada, cleared the way for the company to build on public land.

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Life carries risk. We take risks every day. I don't need Andrew Cuomo or any other Nanny to tell me how to live.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has been campaigning recently to promote new legislation that would set forth a legal framework for riders of e-scooters and e-bikes within the Empire State. In short, Cuomo looks to pass regulations that would provide clear rules for those that choose more sustainable methods of transportation than heavily polluting cars. Among these regulations is one that clearly states these riders must wear helmets when mobile, a solution that Cuomo alluded to helping everyone who frequents New York's crowded roadways. But when Streetsblog NYC asked if Cuomo might consider a seemingly outlandish safety measure—helmets for motorists and their passengers—the governor didn't shrug off the suggestion; instead, he called for data to support the claim.
Cuomo called the current state of these transportation methods a "legal vacuum" and addressed the need to officially mandate safety measures. This would ensure that casual riders and delivery drivers alike are protected from "arbitrary enforcement" as they navigate the busy streets of the five boroughs.
"We need an alternative to automobiles driving in New York City," said Cuomo

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Meditation, NSFW

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Aging has-been actors don't grow old gracefully. Star Trek Actor George Takei Thinks He’s Entitled to Royalties for the Space Force Logo

George Takei has been suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome for a long time and has probably spent more time in the past few years criticizing Trump than breathing. Nothing is too petty for Takei to gripe about when it comes to Trump. When Trump announced the new logo for the U.S. Space Force, it was inevitable that the has-been actor, mostly known for his portrayal of Lieutenant Sulu on Star Trek: The Original Series, would have an opinion.

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(H/T LadyL)

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Paul Joseph Watson discusses "Bat Soup". NSFW-Language

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New Zealand's attempt to be a super power has failed.

The Defence Force is battling to find a buyer for 30 unwanted armoured vehicles which cost about $186 million.
It is another chapter in the long running saga of one of the army's most expensive, and most controversial, purchases.
The Army quietly increased the number of NZ Light Armoured Vehicles (NZLAVs) for sale from 20 to 30 early in 2019.

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Only a government employee could come out of the Epstein death incident smelling like a rose. Warden moving onto green pastures.

The warden in charge when Jeffrey Epstein ended his life in his jail cell is being moved to a leadership position at another federal correctional facility, putting him back in the field with inmates despite an ongoing investigation into the financier's death, two people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.
The federal Bureau of Prisons is planning to move Lamine N'Diaye to the role at FCI Fort Dix, a low-security prison in Burlington County, New Jersey, the people said. The move comes months after Attorney General William Barr ordered N'Diaye be reassigned to a desk post at the Bureau of Prisons' regional office in Pennsylvania after Epstein's death as the FBI and the Justice Department's inspector general investigated.

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Bailiff whack their pee-pee. The University of Conneticut has a federal judge pissed at them.

When a judge tells you twice in one week that you are violating students’ constitutional rights, it may be time to listen.
A federal court in Connecticut handed the University of Connecticut a stinging rebuke yesterday, holding that the university likely violated an accused student’s due process rights when it ignored exculpatory evidence and prevented him from questioning witnesses in his sexual misconduct case. This is the second time in a week that U.S. District Judge Michael Shea has issued a temporary restraining order against UConn in a case involving students’ constitutional rights: Last week, Judge Shea barred UConn from proceeding with a disciplinary hearing against two students impermissibly being disciplined for their constitutionally protected speech.

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The French are not known for their fighting prowess. Even President Trump is "skeptical" of their forces.

According to a new report from NBC, France is pleading with President Trump to not cut off U.S. military support to French forces fighting Islamist militants in Africa.
Trump administration officials have expressed skepticism on the effectiveness of French counterterrorism efforts.
French President Macron has repeatedly clashed with President Trump on topics including NATO spending and the U.S. decision to leave the Paris Climate Accord.
Macron has also been plagued with low favorability ratings in his country and mass protests.

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Oh woe is us. We couldn't do anything. Funny how Cindy McCain can rationalize away knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's behavior.

Cindy McCain, the widow of late Sen. John McCain, blasted authorities who were "afraid" to arrest convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein even though everyone "knew" what he was doing.
"Epstein was hiding in plain sight," said Cindy McCain. "We all knew about him. We all knew what he was doing, but we had no one that was — no legal aspect that would go after him. They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid of him."
McCain's comments came after she was questioned by an attendee during her appearance at the State of the World 2020 conference in Florida.

I'm sure her late husband and his staff could have done more. They sure knew how to get a Bull Shit dossier to Buzz Feed.

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The ONT Musical Interlude

Born on this day: 26 Jan 1953
Lucinda Williams, rock, folk, blues and country music singer and songwriter who wrote 'Passionate Kisses' the Grammy winning song made famous by the 1993 single version by Mary Chapin Carpenter. via thisdayinmusic.com

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Born on this day: 26 Jan 1957
Eddie Van Halen, Dutch guitarist with Van Halen who had the 1984 US No.1 & UK No. 7 single 'Jump'. His guitar solo in the track 'Eruption' was voted No.2 on Guitar World magazine's readers poll of the 100 Greatest Guitar Solos. Halen also played the guitar solo on Michael Jackson's 'Beat It'. via thisdayinmusic.com

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If you are going to violate the rules of the road, better planning is needed. Just ask our Genius Award Winner.

PHOENIX (AP) — A 62-year-old man was cited in Arizona this week after trying to disguise a fake skeleton as a passenger just to use the HOV lane.
The Arizona Department of Public Safety says a trooper pulled over the man on Thursday after noticing he had placed a fake skeleton in the passenger’s front seat.
The skeleton was sitting upright, wearing a hat and tied to the front seat.

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Not only were they peaceful protesters, they were clean as well. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

Thousands of people flooded the surrounding streets of the Capitol in Richmond on Monday for a gun-rights rally, however, locals in the area say the roads are the cleanest they've seen in quite some time.
There's a reason for that, said Matthew Keisling, a protester who made sure that once he shared his message, he went above and beyond to protect it.
"I've been in the area when there have been other protests and demonstrations and people leave a lot of trash behind and it waters down the message," Keisling said.
Advocates told 8News they made sure to clean up after the rally because they felt leaving trash behind "represents the group and the movement very poorly."

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 09:44 PM

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1 St

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at January 26, 2020 09:44 PM (1uhZl)

2 Woot!

Posted by: JQ at January 26, 2020 09:45 PM (gP/Z3)

3 Hey der

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 26, 2020 09:45 PM (7ZQe3)

4 Beautiful lighthouse and flag picture.

Posted by: bluebell at January 26, 2020 09:45 PM (/669Q)

5 Willowed:

I wonder what sort of cool death ray guns the SF will eventually have... anyone care to hazard a guess?

................
BFG 9000

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 09:45 PM (CjFDo)

6 WOulda been here sooner, but son just sent a pic of our younger grandbaby - she's 10 months old today. Yay.

Also, hi. ONT WOOT etc

Posted by: mindful webworker - grampaw at January 26, 2020 09:46 PM (0mP7b)

7 Evening Horde - hey Bluebell.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 26, 2020 09:47 PM (Y4EXg)

8 Musical interlude, Asian gals belly-dancing to pop.

https://youtu.be/mKXVD6lK0QU

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 09:48 PM (5req4)

9 Top 10!

Posted by: CliffClavin at January 26, 2020 09:48 PM (dyCMp)

10 ha ha ok that old British lady is funny

also deluded!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 26, 2020 09:48 PM (Rarvo)

11 Because of Trump it would be the VBFG 9000+

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 09:48 PM (5req4)

12 that shirt was on sale!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 09:50 PM (ykYG2)

13 I had a suspicion that MisHum would play games to night but dio I listen... Noooo

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 09:51 PM (BiNEL)

14 Hello all! Interesting week coming up with this virus, impeachment trial..

Posted by: IC at January 26, 2020 09:51 PM (sYDum)

15 Hey Tonypete! Are you home and rested? Wasn't the March incredible?

Posted by: bluebell at January 26, 2020 09:51 PM (/669Q)

16 Love that lighthouse BTW!

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 09:51 PM (BiNEL)

17 13 I had a suspicion that MisHum would play games to night but dio I listen... Noooo
Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 09:51 PM (BiNEL)

Who me?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2020 09:51 PM (aA3+G)

18 Much like Homer Simpson,. I am drawn to lighthouses. Beautiful image.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 09:52 PM (x8Wzq)

19 I understand that guy wearing that shirt. I have many lame-ass shirts given to me at some job-site or other [software developers migrate a lot]. I threw away many of them on my move here and, here, I've accumulated more.

In Colorado, we at least have winters, so I throw a sweater over the worst of the shirts.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 09:53 PM (ykYG2)

20 Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 09:52 PM (x8Wzq)

How much Monty Python did you watch today?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2020 09:53 PM (aA3+G)

21
The unfortunate thing about all of the Mencken's we have had is that they lay their scourge on the ordinary people of this land. They lay waste to the farmers, the shopkeepers, the clerks, the laborers, the common men and women "the common clay of the new west - you know, morons" when the pretentious shitbirds and blue falcons of the upper-middle class and above, the snots of academia, the revolting cast of deputy-under-secretaries for this, that, and the other are the true targets he and they should have aimed at.

And they would if they had not come from, and wedded and bedded, the same.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 09:53 PM (jWElI)

22 I move we adjourn the impeachment until after March Madness. St. Kobe would have wanted it that way. Amen.

Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Adam Schiff (D-Los Angeles Lakers) at January 26, 2020 09:54 PM (NpvYf)

23 probably the faggiest shirt I ever had was the Equality Now shirt I got at a Serenity / Firefly shindig. I didn't know at the time that Whedon was a predator hiding out as a male-feminist.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 09:54 PM (ykYG2)

24 Weekend is nearly over!

Stupid sucker (ME) still has to w*rk for a living.

Waaaah!

G'nite.

Posted by: JQ at January 26, 2020 09:55 PM (gP/Z3)

25 Funny Nasty story for the Horde:

My daughter is a freshman in college. She went to her bio lab Friday morning at 8 am. She and her classmates had to swab each other's mouths to look at germs under a microscope. One of her classmates yells,"There's a tadpole in my slide!" The prof says, "That's not a tadpole; that's sperm." The girl says," Oh, that makes sense." 8 A M

Posted by: jmel at January 26, 2020 09:55 PM (OeWgo)

26 Gotta say, I am about as dissapointed in Barr as it gets.

The idea that a fuckup of this magnitude is going to be rewarded boggles the mind.

Incredible.

Posted by: Mr. Wiffle Snuff at January 26, 2020 09:55 PM (rJbNA)

27 How cool is that giant flag, hanging on a lighthouse?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 09:56 PM (sy5kK)

28 Graham Trainor, president of the Oregon AFL-CIO

Hey, Obama claimed repeatedly that ATM's had caused permanent reductions in employment.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 26, 2020 09:56 PM (I2/tG)

29 My daughter is a freshman in college. She went to
her bio lab Friday morning at 8 am. She and her classmates had to swab
each other's mouths to look at germs under a microscope. One of her
classmates yells,"There's a tadpole in my slide!" The prof says, "That's
not a tadpole; that's sperm." The girl says," Oh, that makes sense." 8 A
M

Posted by: jmel.........
OUCH!!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 09:57 PM (CjFDo)

30 Just finished watching Going in Style...a trio of old guys who Rob a bank for 2 million bucks and get away with it. Coincided with the ONT.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at January 26, 2020 09:58 PM (1uhZl)

31 Love our flag. Lifts my spirit every time I see it.

Posted by: dartist at January 26, 2020 09:58 PM (K22Va)

32 Jmel, eewwwww

Was she handed some mouthwash at least?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 09:59 PM (5req4)

33

Watching the Grammy.

Hey! It's Miley Cyrus's dad!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:00 PM (sy5kK)

34 To lurk, or not to lurk: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous comments,
Or to take arms against a sea of trolls,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;

Posted by: Sock Monkey...rebel without a subjunctive clause at January 26, 2020 10:00 PM (r/mKb)

35 Mencken had a great lifestyle - he woke up every morning in Baltimore (he despised New York), wrote his newspaper column on the train enroute to New York, got to the newspaper and filed is column, spent the afternoon hanging out talking to people to get ideas for future columns (alcoholic beverages may have been involved), and then took the train back to Baltimore.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 26, 2020 10:01 PM (I2/tG)

36 My daughter is a freshman in college. She went to
her bio lab Friday morning at 8 am. She and her classmates had to swab each other's mouths to look at germs under a microscope. One of her classmates yells,"There's a tadpole in my slide!" The prof says, "That's not a tadpole; that's sperm." The girl says," Oh, that makes sense."

And then the prof asked for her phone number.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 26, 2020 10:01 PM (YqDXo)

37 Hey Tonypete! Are you home and rested? Wasn't the March incredible?
Posted by: bluebell

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I'm home but not really rested.

Pulled into the driveway at 4am last night. Stayed in DC to attend the MfL Summit at the Radisson.

Terrific speakers and small groups. Gov. Scott Walker, Matt Birk, David Daleniden of Center for Medical Progress and dozens of others. Oops - forgot Alveda King and Kay Coles James of the Heritage Foundation.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 26, 2020 10:01 PM (Y4EXg)

38 Hey everybody.

Hey! It's Miley Cyrus's dad!

Unless he's profusely apologizing for Miley, I'm not interested in anything he has to say.

And re George Takei's latest insane rantings: PDT should send him a check for $0.00, just to troll him.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 26, 2020 10:01 PM (L2ZTs)

39 Hello Dear, did you have a nice weekend?

Posted by: ALH at January 26, 2020 10:02 PM (A7tBu)

40 Either the Grammys are on a 7 second delay, or the guys in charge of sound should be fired.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:02 PM (sy5kK)

41 32

No idea. My daughter texted me and told me the prof said she was never doing mouth swabbing again in class. She also said,"Mom, there's some nasty bitches round here." LOL

Posted by: jmel at January 26, 2020 10:03 PM (OeWgo)

42 23 probably the faggiest shirt I ever had was the Equality Now shirt I got at a Serenity / Firefly shindig. I didn't know at the time that Whedon was a predator hiding out as a male-feminist.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 09:54 PM (ykYG2)

Should've gotten the "Patience - NOW!" t-shirt.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 26, 2020 10:03 PM (YqDXo)

43 The idea that a fuckup of this magnitude is going to be rewarded boggles the mind.
Incredible.
Posted by: Mr. Wiffle Snuff at January 26, 2020 09:55 PM (rJbNA)

Your (forgivable) mistake was in believing that integrity amongst the Deep State Establishment members was still a "thing"!

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:03 PM (BiNEL)

44 The 7 second delay might be a feature just in case someone starts cursing and they can subsitute Daffy Duck

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:03 PM (5req4)

45 @33
I'm watching the Grammy's as a goof.

Every second of it is horrifying.

To call popular music drek is to understate how bad it truly is.

Posted by: Mr. Wiffle Snuff at January 26, 2020 10:03 PM (rJbNA)

46 Vote!

Posted by: 80's music fan at January 26, 2020 10:04 PM (glGDV)

47 Perhaps NZ's economy will pick up when all our betters hit their bunkers built there.

Posted by: willow at January 26, 2020 10:04 PM (VC0Td)

48 Love our flag. Lifts my spirit every time I see it.

Posted by: dartist at January 26, 2020 09:58 PM (K22Va)

Guess I am old-fashioned, but I feel the same way!

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:05 PM (BiNEL)

49 Tonypete, how wonderful! I'm glad you got a chance to do that, even though 4 am is a tad late.

Posted by: bluebell at January 26, 2020 10:05 PM (/669Q)

50 There's a tadpole in my slide!

8^x

Please tell me this is apocryphal.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:05 PM (ykYG2)

51 Juan Williams - ugh.

H.L. Mencken - didn't he famously say, buy Eastman-Kodak, or something?

Drug-addled house painter - call the finished product art, and auction the whole place off for $1.5M. Then burn it down. Because, ART!

George Takei was good as the drunken doctor in that SF Western movie Oblivion. Good as in seemed to be playing a drunken idiot.

Bat Soup again? Didn't we just have that already this week? Can't we have Three Squeaks tonight?

"Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Secrets." Yeah, well kept.

Enjoyed the post. Still listening to Van Halen.

Posted by: mindful webworker - post-post at January 26, 2020 10:05 PM (0mP7b)

52 Washington Times basically verifying the ChiComs fucked up and let one escape from the level 4 bio weapon research and development that they built using the YOLO template.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/26/ coronavirus-link-china-biowarfare-program-possible

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 26, 2020 10:06 PM (Eayc5)

53 The only white folk on the Grammys tonight are all Social Security age, or related to Miley Cyrus.

That token white woman, Taylor Swift, is not there.

Just reporting the facts, ma'am.

Posted by: Joe Friday at January 26, 2020 10:06 PM (sy5kK)

54 How about some BabMetal nyah?

https://youtu.be/qMKlj_1zbYc

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:06 PM (5req4)

55 Woot-Woot!! Another ONT! Spectacular photo up top Mis Hum. Thinking of how that flag must have flown in the breeze brings on the goose bumps, it does.

Great song, too. Haven't heard John Prine in quite a while.

Pray for our president and valiant warriors.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 10:06 PM (fNFgo)

56 Re: the slide story. As a wee intern I was working in a San Francisco hospital during the AIDS epidemic. We had a gentleman come in with bacterial pneumonia, who was HIV-positive (in those days you could assume the patient had full blown AIDS, as we didn't have any meds worth a damn). So we got a sputum sample, put it on a slide. Three guesses as to what I saw, and the first two don't count.

Posted by: Dr Alice at January 26, 2020 10:07 PM (oW/8k)

57 So the PRC has just went and gone full The Stand?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:08 PM (5req4)

58 Bat Soup again? Didn't we just have that already this week? Can't we have Three Squeaks tonight?
Posted by: mindful webworker - post-post at January 26, 2020 10:05 PM (0mP7b)

Stop complaining! Little kids in China don't even GET bat soup!

Posted by: hogmartin at January 26, 2020 10:08 PM (t+qrx)

59 25 Funny Nasty story for the Horde:

My daughter is a freshman in college. She went to her bio lab Friday morning at 8 am. She and her classmates had to swab each other's mouths to look at germs under a microscope. One of her classmates yells,"There's a tadpole in my slide!" The prof says, "That's not a tadpole; that's sperm." The girl says," Oh, that makes sense." 8 A M
Posted by: jmel at January 26, 2020 09:55 PM (OeWgo)

I can't stop laughing.

I tried.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:08 PM (sy5kK)

60 Re Kobe Bryant: What was so important that they had to fly in thick fog to get there? That practice could have been delayed until the weather cleared up.

Posted by: Aud at January 26, 2020 10:08 PM (uBywd)

61 bat soup!

Posted by: hogmartin at January 26, 2020 10:08 PM (t+qrx)

Luxury!
We had rat soup and we were lucky to have it!

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:09 PM (BiNEL)

62 I wouldn't mind being a lighthouse tender. As long as it has a fireplace.

Posted by: Infidel at January 26, 2020 10:09 PM (MTxDQ)

63 It will take me a minute or two to read all the content. My goodness, someone has been busy!

Nice picture up top.

Posted by: ALH at January 26, 2020 10:10 PM (A7tBu)

64 Graham Trainor, president of the Oregon AFL-CIO

Recently, the unions in Oregon protested the shocking fact that men were paid more than women at Fred Meyer, a subsidiary of Kroger that is the major supermarket chain in the Northwest.

It turned out that this was primarily because the best-paid workers at Fred Meyer are the guys who unload the trucks in the middle of the night. This is hard physical labor, graveyard shift only, and it turns out that women aren't very interested in those jobs for some reason.

No matter, the unions boycotted Fred Meyer for awhile, to protest this horrible pay disparity. I've seen no indication that the union consulted with the guys unloading the trucks before they decided to do this.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 26, 2020 10:10 PM (I2/tG)

65
In Colorado, we at least have winters, so I throw a sweater over the worst of the shirts.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 09:53 PM (ykYG2)

We have winters in Seattle, too.

The rain is colder.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:10 PM (sy5kK)

66 60
Re Kobe Bryant: What was so important that they had to fly in thick fog
to get there? That practice could have been delayed until the weather
cleared up.

Posted by: Aud at January 26, 2020 10:08 PM (uBywd)

The last time I had a cracked windshield replaced I rescheduled because the weather looked chancy. Just mentioning.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 10:11 PM (jWElI)

67 Judging from the stories in the sidebar, I'm starting to think we should ban helicopters.

Hope everyone's having a good evening.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 26, 2020 10:11 PM (2PXwn)

68 62 I wouldn't mind being a lighthouse tender. As long as it has a fireplace.
Posted by: Infidel at January 26, 2020 10:09 PM (MTxDQ)

and an elevator.

Posted by: ALH at January 26, 2020 10:11 PM (A7tBu)

69 Eddie Muthafukin' Van Halen. He is the reason the Super Strat came into being, with Charvel. Hot-rodded to fuck-shit-up.

I have a 1988 BC Rich Gunslinger that I have neglected for a long time. I am actually afraid to open her case.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 10:11 PM (x8Wzq)

70 Love the flag too! They stopped at noon today at the gun show to have the National Anthem performed.

jmel........husband and I cannot stop laughing

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 26, 2020 10:11 PM (/UQ/R)

71 I got booted off of Twitter for asking him if he was retarded. I should have told him to pull his head out of his ass at the same time.

So I guess he was too retarded to just answer the question.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 26, 2020 10:12 PM (+lVUW)

72 I wouldn't mind being a lighthouse tender. As long as it has a fireplace.

Posted by: Infidel at January 26, 2020 10:09 PM (MTxDQ)

You might want to think about the logistics of firewood in a lighthouse setting!

My wood stove is on the first floor and it is a PITA to stock!

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:12 PM (BiNEL)

73 {{{infidel}}} how you?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:12 PM (ykYG2)

74 I had a good weekend how about you?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2020 10:12 PM (aA3+G)

75

The Marx Brothers movie "Bat Soup" ended up on the cutting room floor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2020 10:13 PM (aKsyK)

76 Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 26, 2020 10:10 PM (I2/tG)

Virtue signaling is its own reward!

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:13 PM (BiNEL)

77 "Epstein was hiding in plain sight," said Cindy McCain. "We all knew about him.

In other words, YOU were hiding him in plain sight.

Posted by: t-bird at January 26, 2020 10:13 PM (g0Lfb)

78 There was a for a brief period of time that Juan Williams was redeemable back in 2010 over his Muslims remark. He lost his NPR gig and Fox was about it. He seemed for awhile to "Get it". I haven't watched anything on Fox in years so I don't know if this is his normal or extra special left of center opinion talking. Someone has to play the part of "Left wing dick", so if not him, it will be someone else.

Posted by: Groundhog at January 26, 2020 10:14 PM (VYwSh)

79 Good evening, Horde!

Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 10:14 PM (TdMsT)

80 In other words, YOU were hiding him in plain sight.

Posted by: t-bird at January 26, 2020 10:13 PM (g0Lfb)

Wonder if Papa John ever showed up on a "flight manifest"?

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:14 PM (BiNEL)

81 If you want to understand why Juan Williams says the things he does, even negative attention is better than being ignored.
Personally, I'm sick and tired of people who whine.

Posted by: ALH at January 26, 2020 10:15 PM (A7tBu)

82 {{{Ladyl}}}

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:15 PM (BiNEL)

83

Advocates told 8News they (the thousands of people flooded the surrounding streets of the Capitol in Richmond on Monday for a gun-rights rally) made sure to clean up after the rally because they felt leaving trash behind "represents the group and the movement very poorly."

Once again, Jharles Chonson hit hardest.

This seems to happen every 10 years, or so.

Heh.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 26, 2020 10:15 PM (FlRtG)

84 Still no new information regarding the fatal crash of the B-17G 'Nine-O-Nine' but the Collings Foundation is still touring the US with their B-24J but no flights are being given.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:15 PM (5req4)

85 {{{Hrothgar}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 10:16 PM (TdMsT)

86 {{{{boulder)}}} Tired and wish I could retire. Tired of winter. Other that that,
peachy.

How are you?

I see wds is here too.

Posted by: Infidel at January 26, 2020 10:16 PM (MTxDQ)

87 Virtue signaling is its own reward!

It's interesting the extent to which even unions have become feminized (the fact that most labor union members these days are government workers helps contribute to this).

I'm trying to figure out exactly when the labor unions decided that paying the guys unloading the trucks in the middle of the night more was a terrible thing that needs to be protested.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 26, 2020 10:16 PM (I2/tG)

88 I met Lucinda Williams in a bar in Iowa when she was just breaking onto the national stage. Great performer, songwriter, but in private conversation an arrogant bitch. Perhaps the fact we were both drunk didn't help the conversation flow politely.

Posted by: parker at January 26, 2020 10:17 PM (mmH7U)

89 My daughter is a freshman in college. She went to her bio lab Friday morning at 8 am. She and her classmates had to swab each other's mouths to look at germs under a microscope. One of her classmates yells,"There's a tadpole in my slide!" The prof says, "That's not a tadpole; that's sperm." The girl says," Oh, that makes sense." 8 A M
Posted by: jmel at January 26, 2020 09:55 PM (OeWgo)
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Sounds like this wasn't the first time the professor had seen this type of thing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 26, 2020 10:17 PM (WEBkv)

90

Sean "Diddy" Combs called out the Grammy Awards for dissing rap and R&B stars in its major categories in a blazing speech that earned him a standing ovation from Beyonce, Jay-Z and several other music industry players.

"In the great words of Erykah Badu, 'We are artists and we are sensitive about our (expletive).' We are passionate. For most of us, this is all we got. This is our only hope," Combs continued. "Truth be told, hip-hop has never been respected by the Grammys. Black music has never been respected by the Grammys to the point that it should be."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2020 10:17 PM (aKsyK)

91 60 Re Kobe Bryant: What was so important that they had to fly in thick fog to get there? That practice could have been delayed until the weather cleared up.
Posted by: Aud at January 26, 2020 10:08 PM (uBywd)

Apparently, it was a tournament that his daughter played in, and he coached.

Still.

I have never flown in a small aircraft. But I have been in a powerboat on Puget Sound when thick fog rolls in while on the water, and it is terrifying. Worse than the worst weather I have skippered or crewed in.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:18 PM (sy5kK)

92 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2020 10:12 PM (aA3+G)

Excellente! I have a new hobby - downsizing. I feel the need to lighten the load, getting rid of whatever is standing in my way.

Posted by: ALH at January 26, 2020 10:18 PM (A7tBu)

93 Let me get this straight, Planned Parenthood receives federal money for killing kids, traffics in their organs, and then runs political ads denouncing the President with that money.

But speaking at a rally divides the country.

Go shit in your hat, Juan.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 26, 2020 10:18 PM (JCrfD)

94 The Marine crash is from 2005

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 26, 2020 10:18 PM (/UQ/R)

95 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)

96 Car Wheels on a Gravel Road... great memory!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 10:20 PM (fNFgo)

97 Sean "Diddy" Combs called out the Grammy Awards for dissing rap and R&B stars in its major categories in a blazing speech that earned him a standing ovation from Beyonce, Jay-Z and several other music industry players.

Diddy's net worth is $885 million.

You are soooooo oppressed. Asshat.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 26, 2020 10:20 PM (JCrfD)

98 {{{{{Infidel}}}}}}

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 26, 2020 10:20 PM (/UQ/R)

99 Posted by: jmel at January 26, 2020 09:55 PM (OeWgo)

What is the life expectancy of sperm?

Posted by: ALH at January 26, 2020 10:20 PM (A7tBu)

100 Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)

Stevie Ray Vaughn

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2020 10:20 PM (aA3+G)

101 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.

Traffic copter, I think.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 26, 2020 10:21 PM (JCrfD)

102 Judging from the stories in the sidebar, I'm starting to think we should ban helicopters.

But what will Pinochet Air Tours do? (Of course there are always trebuchets.)

Posted by: Basement Cat at January 26, 2020 10:21 PM (pPNCa)

103 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)
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Stevie Ray Vaughan

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 26, 2020 10:21 PM (WEBkv)

104 Hey guys! If you saw my comment earlier this morning, I'm happy to tell you my dad is doing much better! He's still on oxygen, but he doesn't have to wear a mask, and he's eating. He's always said that he is the Wolverine :-)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at January 26, 2020 10:21 PM (rWZ8Y)

105 61 bat soup!

Posted by: hogmartin at January 26, 2020 10:08 PM (t+qrx)

Luxury!
We had rat soup and we were lucky to have it!
Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:09 PM (BiNEL)

It is known that by adding maggots, the protein increases dramatically.

Posted by: the guy in the blue tent on the sidewalk at January 26, 2020 10:21 PM (sy5kK)

106
Best of Breed and a Hound Group 2 for Miss Delilah at today's Alexandria KC show. Had she placed first in the group there was an excellent chance she might have gone Best in Show. Them's the breaks. Almost anyone else would kill for the weekend she had.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 26, 2020 10:22 PM (7rVsF)

107 Can't really say I did much this weekend. downloaded and started playing that prequel to 'Homeworld' since there was a deal on Steam which meant I got it for $10.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:22 PM (ykYG2)

108 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)

Jefferey Epstein.

Posted by: ALH at January 26, 2020 10:22 PM (A7tBu)

109 Hi girlfriend. Getting ready for bed, need to fold laundry. Such an exciting life.

Posted by: Infidel at January 26, 2020 10:22 PM (MTxDQ)

110 Hello, Horde!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at January 26, 2020 10:22 PM (SRRAx)

111 103 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)
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Stevie Ray Vaughan

Otis Redding

Posted by: the guy in the blue tent on the sidewalk at January 26, 2020 10:22 PM (sy5kK)

112 a college baseball coach, his wife, daughter, and the pilot plus three others died in that chopper.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:23 PM (KP5rU)

113
>>the 'Trans Home' on Washington Street will provide a 'safe shelter and supportive services for 13 new residents, who will share a three-story building with 13 bedrooms, three kitchens and a common living space

========

In all seriousness, some network should grab this for a reality show. The city could charge them a flat fee or cop a percentage.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 10:23 PM (13CQC)

114 Saw this earlier: a helicopter is 30,000 individual parts flying in close formation.

Need to impart this to by brother. He flies the Black Hawk. He is deployed just now.

Pretty sure he knows what the Jesus Nut is.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 10:23 PM (x8Wzq)

115 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)

--------

Vic Morrow.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 26, 2020 10:23 PM (WEBkv)

116 Right on cue, in the middle of the impeachment trial, The Times drops another "bombshell"--this one concerning a leak of the contents of Bolton's book.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 26, 2020 10:24 PM (o1fzk)

117 I have never flown in a small aircraft. But I have
been in a powerboat on Puget Sound when thick fog rolls in while on the
water, and it is terrifying. Worse than the worst weather I have
skippered or crewed in.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:18 PM (sy5kK)

I have been in thick weather on the Detroit River and it is no fun at all, even with radar, GPS, and chart plotter. The instruments tell you where you are, and that there is nothing moving near you, but until you get that sighting on a buoy it all guess work; afterwards it is only 60% guess work.

I recall going down the Trenton Channel in a downpour and holding my hand in front of my mouth and nose so that I could breathe.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 10:24 PM (jWElI)

118 Wonderful news, Mrs. Peel!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at January 26, 2020 10:24 PM (SRRAx)

119 Posted by: Mrs. Peel at January 26, 2020 10:21 PM (rWZ8Y)

That's great! A nice counter to the news of the day.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:24 PM (sy5kK)

120 103 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)

Federal Bureau of Investigations Special Agents Johnson and Johnson.

No relation.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 10:24 PM (x8Wzq)

121 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)

I did not know that.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 26, 2020 10:25 PM (t+qrx)

122
'We are artists and we are sensitive about our (expletive).' We are passionate. For most of us, this is all we got. This is our only hope."

Stiff stuff, pal.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 26, 2020 10:25 PM (7rVsF)

123 Kobe's helicopter crash occurred in calabasas and he was headed to our city where he has his training center and honestly the fog was ridiculous this morning. Frankly I'm shocked the pilot agreed to fly in that weather. It's a shock for southern Californians that's for sure. Really feel for his wife. Losing a husband is hard but bearable; losing a child is something you never get over.

Posted by: IC at January 26, 2020 10:25 PM (sYDum)

124 >>> Best of Breed and a Hound Group 2 for Miss Delilah
~~~~~

Congrats, Hadrian! I have never shown dogs, but I'm friends with a local breeder and know how much work it is. Your pups are gorgeous.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 26, 2020 10:25 PM (sGotD)

125 rode on helicopter once. never again.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:25 PM (KP5rU)

126 Pug with a Die Hard reference.

Yippy Ky-Yay

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:25 PM (5req4)

127 Who else died in a helicopter crash?
------------------------------------------------
Lt. Colonel Blake?

Posted by: JoeF. at January 26, 2020 10:26 PM (o1fzk)

128 Just finnished re-watching Galaxy Quest.

Space Force put me in the mood for it.

Best Star Trek movie of all.

Posted by: davidt at January 26, 2020 10:26 PM (l3+k2)

129 I got booted off of Twitter for asking him if he was retarded. I should have told him to pull his head out of his ass at the same time.
* * * *

What happened to "truth is a defense"? Guess that doesn't fly on the twatters. Juan acts retarded, but I have come to the conclusion that rather than a seeker of attention, he is a True Believer in the crap that comes out of his pie hole.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 10:26 PM (fNFgo)

130 This is not the first time that McCain's homewrecker widow has spewed half baked accusations with no substantiation whatever.

https://tinyurl.com/y8osvzos

McCain dumped his wife and married her for her money, not her brains.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 26, 2020 10:26 PM (+lVUW)

131 The Times drops another "bombshell"--this one concerning a leak of the contents of Bolton's book.

Yawn. It Super Bowl week.

And much like the GAO bombshell or the Parnas BS, it ain't and I don't even know what it says.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 26, 2020 10:26 PM (JCrfD)

132 105 61 bat soup!

Posted by: hogmartin at January 26, 2020 10:08 PM (t+qrx)

Luxury!
We had rat soup and we were lucky to have it!
Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:09 PM (BiNEL)

It is known that by adding maggots, the protein increases dramatically.

Posted by: the guy in the blue tent on the sidewalk at January 26, 2020 10:21 PM (sy5kK)

Keto for the masses!

Posted by: Pravda Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:26 PM (BiNEL)

133 77 "Epstein was hiding in plain sight," said Cindy McCain. "We all knew about him.

In other words, YOU were hiding him in plain sight.
Posted by: t-bird at January 26, 2020 10:13 PM (g0Lfb)

Cindy would have done something, but she was too busy selling Budweiser.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:27 PM (sy5kK)

134 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)

JFK, JR

Posted by: ALH at January 26, 2020 10:27 PM (A7tBu)

135 Who else died in a helicopter crash?
------------------------------------------------
Lt. Colonel Blake?

Henry was on a plane and got shot down over the Sea of Japan.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 26, 2020 10:27 PM (JCrfD)

136 Great news, Mrs. Peel!

Posted by: IrishEi at January 26, 2020 10:27 PM (sGotD)

137 JFK Jr killed himself, his wife, and sister-in-law in a light plane in VFR weather.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:28 PM (5req4)

138 Wow. My cousin was killed in Vietnam during the Tet Offense. It was friendly fire. The man who accidentally killed him somehow found his sister on FB and asked if he could meet with her. Apparently knowing that he killed a fellow Marine f'ed up his life for years. She told him she would meet with him.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 26, 2020 10:28 PM (d6Ksn)

139 Who else died in a helicopter crash?
------------------------------------------------
Lt. Colonel Blake?
Posted by: JoeF. at January 26, 2020 10:26 PM (o1fzk)

No. Plane over the Sea of Japan.

That episode messed me up. I was a kid.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 10:28 PM (x8Wzq)

140 Car Wheels on a Gravel Road is a masterpiece of an album.

Start to finish.

I know she's an idiot politically

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 26, 2020 10:29 PM (oAY8z)

141 My one good fog story is we got stuck in fog as kids between Catalina and Newport on a Sunday. Missed school on Mon. Looking back, mom must have been scared to death. I remember dad telling me to take the fog horn, hang on to the stantion, go to the bow and blow like a mofo. Huge shipping vessel out of Long Beach coming on us. Didn't realize till years later how bad that would have been.

Posted by: Infidel at January 26, 2020 10:29 PM (MTxDQ)

142 In a nutshell, Cindy McCain saw a woman with a toddler of a different race meeting up with a guy at an airport.
Bingo. She decided it was sex trafficking and reported it to a police officer.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 26, 2020 10:29 PM (+lVUW)

143 But what will Pinochet Air Tours do? (Of course there are always trebuchets.)

Posted by: Basement Cat at January 26, 2020 10:21 PM (pPNCa)

I used one to shoot the late Buzzion from Detroit to Windsor. It was a beautiful trebuchet, metallic blue, flames along the sides, spinner hubs on the winches...

We got a good loft, but he dropped early, skipped twice, and then hit the side of the Algowood. Fortunately the freighter took no damage.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 10:30 PM (jWElI)

144 Stevie Ray Vaughn

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 26, 2020 10:30 PM (oAY8z)

145 Congratulations to Miss Delilah! She has had a spectacular weekend!!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 10:30 PM (fNFgo)

146 Apparently knowing that he killed a fellow Marine f'ed up his life for years. She told him she would meet with him.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 26, 2020 10:28 PM (d6Ksn)

Prayers up for the both of them!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:31 PM (BiNEL)

147 Musical interlude, Asian gals belly-dancing to pop.

Another musical interlude: cats doing the can-can to the usual Offenbach music: https://tinyurl.com/tkqku89

Okay, it's silly, but at least you'll know why even the French were scandalized when the dance first became a music-hall staple.

Posted by: Basement Cat at January 26, 2020 10:31 PM (pPNCa)

148 Well I am going to meander and try to get some writing done.

A little gift. Though the nekos seem unimpressed. Nyah mileage may vary.

https://youtu.be/f9DyUvyIOfo

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:31 PM (5req4)

149 Donna, does the story check out? I hope your cousin's sister takes precautions.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:31 PM (ykYG2)

150 Galaxy Quest is great, second half lagged a bit but still good. Hottest Sigourney Weaver ever looked

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 26, 2020 10:32 PM (oAY8z)

151 "Galaxy Quest" just might be the Best Movie Ever.

I am not really kidding.

It is certainly Top 10.

If I stumble across while channel surfing, I will finish watching it.

A rare thing for me. Other movies: Gladiator, Master and Commander, Office Space, Black Hawk Down.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 10:32 PM (x8Wzq)

152 Donna, does the story check out? I hope your cousin's sister takes precautions.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:31 PM (ykYG2)

Dayum bth, you are suspicious...

and rightly so!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:33 PM (BiNEL)

153 83 -- Ever see the mess left behind on most Earth Day celebrations? Those people were raised in pig stys.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at January 26, 2020 10:34 PM (0oVJn)

154 'We are artists and we are sensitive about our (expletive).' We are passionate. For most of us, this is all we got. This is our only hope."
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Doooood...learn to code.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 10:35 PM (eYD0A)

155 jfk jr was a pilot like i'm an aspiring rapper and aeronautical engineering graduate.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:36 PM (KP5rU)

156 Rewatchables for me? Godfather 1-2, Aliens, Galaxy Quest, Star Treks 2, 6, and 8, Star Wars 4-5, Matrix, Event Horizon, Beetlejuice, Ghostbusters, Unforgiven

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:36 PM (ykYG2)

157 141 My one good fog story is we got stuck in fog as kids between Catalina and Newport on a Sunday. Missed school on Mon. Looking back, mom must have been scared to death. I remember dad telling me to take the fog horn, hang on to the stantion, go to the bow and blow like a mofo. Huge shipping vessel out of Long Beach coming on us. Didn't realize till years later how bad that would have been.
Posted by: Infidel at January 26, 2020 10:29 PM (MTxDQ)

Even when the cargo ships slow down to half speed in Puget Sound, in the shipping lanes, they aren't changing direction if a small boat pops up in front of them or slowing down, for about 10 miles.

And having them go by during the summertime in good weather when bobbing in the Sound with the engines off, they really don't make a lot of noise, other than the whooshing sound from that bulbous bow.

Bug, meet windshield.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:36 PM (sy5kK)

158 I want to write an episode of Star Trek TOS as a thinly veiled remake of Die Hard, with Scotty crawling through the ducts and pissed off.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 26, 2020 10:36 PM (LxTcq)

159 @116
It's the Kavenaugh template all over again..

Also, John Bolton is draft dodging POS, Warmonger.

Which, if you ask me, is a bit hypocritical.

Posted by: Mr. Wiffle Snuff at January 26, 2020 10:37 PM (rJbNA)

160 The Marine crash is from 2005

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 26, 2020 10:18 PM (/UQ/R)

Thanks. I deleted it.

I saw the date but was too stupid to look at the year...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 26, 2020 10:37 PM (dLLD6)

161 Good Evening Horde

Posted by: wing at January 26, 2020 10:38 PM (JFzNN)

162 H/T Insty
shorturl.at/oO379

Michelle/Michael for the win!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:38 PM (BiNEL)

163 rode on helicopter once. never again.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:25 PM (KP5rU)

I have ridden on helicopters many times, mostly to get to mineral exploration sites in the mountains. I find the ride enjoyable.

I suspect we may eventually find the pilot who flew the chopper involved in Bryant's crash was pressured to fly "celebrities" because they had an important engagement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 26, 2020 10:38 PM (LxWV7)

164
153" ... Those people were raised in pig stys."

Blasphemy. I herewith ban you from the interwebz.

Posted by: Jarles Chohnson at January 26, 2020 10:38 PM (FlRtG)

165 the 'Trans Home' on Washington Street will provide a 'safe shelter and supportive services for 13 new residents

Why do they need a safe shelter in San Francisco? Are the regular gays beating them up?

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 26, 2020 10:38 PM (+lVUW)

166 So the PRC has just went and gone full The Stand?

I guess they didn't get to the part of the book where the Trashcan Man mentions in his internal monologue that plague doesn't care who it kills.

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at January 26, 2020 10:39 PM (7s3Gx)

167 I did a few stop-frames on the guy who confronted Elizabeth Warren about free education, and I have an identifying garment.

He is wearing a replica fighter-pilot jacket, appears to be real leather, and on the back is a large "8" with wings on each side -- guess you know what that means -- and an embroidered 3/4 view of a B-17.

I have a very similar jacket. Mine was part of a fairly expensive package deal given to me as a gift by my immediate family, that involved an EAA membership, a ground school session, and an hour of flying, left seat, an aircraft named "Aluminum Overcast." It's in my logbook, countersigned by the supervising instructor pilot, and I intend to be buried with that logbook.

I suppose you can buy one of these coats outright, with a contribution to one of the aircraft foundations. They are not cheap. I prefer to think that the gentleman is a high-ranking officer (some with get this) in the Commemorative Air Force. And I prefer to think of him as my brother.

Senator Warren has knowingly impersonated a motorcyclist, and now has fucked with a B-17 pilot. She probably thinks that this weill cause good things to happen to her.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 26, 2020 10:39 PM (oRpiG)

168 Another musical interlude: cats doing the can-can to the usual Offenbach music: https://tinyurl.com/tkqku89

Already sent to the cat-loving daughter.
Laughed myself into a coughing fit.

Posted by: sal at January 26, 2020 10:39 PM (bo8pf)

169 Good evening, Wing.

Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 10:39 PM (TdMsT)

170 153 83 -- Ever see the mess left behind on most Earth Day celebrations? Those people were raised in pig stys.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at January 26, 2020 10:34 PM (0oVJn)

Let's be fair here, it would be wrong to do the job that union sanitation workers are going to be paid to do!

/s

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:40 PM (BiNEL)

171 I suspect we may eventually find the pilot who flew the chopper involved in Bryant's crash was pressured to fly "celebrities" because they had an important engagement.

Hmmm. Does Greta Thunberg consider helicopters less damaging to Gaia than jet planes?

Posted by: Basement Cat at January 26, 2020 10:40 PM (pPNCa)

172 I want to write an episode of Star Trek TOS as a thinly veiled remake of Die Hard, with Scotty crawling through the ducts and pissed off.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 26, 2020 10:36 PM (LxTcq)

I want to write a screenplay where the hero tears the panel off a duct and says "the fuck. Nobody's crawling through this. Wait. Is Emmanuel Lewis available? No, wait. what's Brad Williams doing right now?"

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 10:40 PM (x8Wzq)

173 137
JFK Jr killed himself, his wife, and sister-in-law in a light plane in VFR weather.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:28 PM (5req4)

He was flying at night and was only rated for daylight flying. As a boater I can tell that even if you know the river like the back of your hand in daylight, nighttime is something altogether different. The shore lights interrupt so much, that they can mask the navigation markers, and the pattern that you are seeing is not where you think that pattern ought to be. Nighttime is completely messed up when you are on the water and you better be sober; I can't even imagine flying at night.

(One time after a fireworks patrol we were going done the Detroit River from Belle Isle, to get to out moorings. We were between downtown Detroit and downtown Windsor - lots of lights - and I am looking ahead and "hey, why did all of those lights on the Ambassador Bridge go out...oh crap..." it was a freighter, coming right at us, and we hauled to starboard as fast as we could. The lights disappeared into the shore lights, and the sound was behind an inch of steel about 750' behind the bow. Yeah - fun.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 10:40 PM (jWElI)

174
Rewatchables for me? Godfather 1-2, Aliens, Galaxy Quest, Star Treks 2,
6, and 8, Star Wars 4-5, Matrix, Event Horizon, Beetlejuice,
Ghostbusters, Unforgiven

Posted by: boulder t'hobo

............
Hunt for Red October
One ping.. One ping only, Vasily.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 10:40 PM (CjFDo)

175 I'm watching the Grammy's

Why???

Why???

Just...

...don't!

Posted by: Sock Monkey...rebel without a subjunctive clause at January 26, 2020 10:41 PM (r/mKb)

176 I want to write an episode of Star Trek TOS as a thinly veiled remake of Die Hard, with Scotty crawling through the ducts and pissed off.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

Include an awkward moment were the uberPC fleet officers have to deal with someones Christian faith, preferably a person of color.

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2020 10:41 PM (mYGbK)

177 "I'm not the lad who just got his arse buggered on the subspace network, matey"

Posted by: Montgomery Scott at January 26, 2020 10:41 PM (ykYG2)

178
the 'Trans Home' on Washington Street will provide a 'safe shelter and supportive services for 13 new residents

There will be a continuous tape loop repeatedly saying, "You are soooooo courageous!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 26, 2020 10:41 PM (7rVsF)

179 H/T Insty
shorturl.at/oO379
Michelle/Michael for the win!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:38 PM (BiNEL)
~~~~~

Unfreakinbelievable. These people just create awards so they can give them to each other. It's actually worse than "everybody gets a trophy" kid sports.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 26, 2020 10:41 PM (sGotD)

180 Funny Nasty story for the Horde:

My daughter is a freshman in college. She went to her bio lab Friday
morning at 8 am. She and her classmates had to swab each other's mouths
to look at germs under a microscope. One of her classmates
yells,"There's a tadpole in my slide!" The prof says, "That's not a
tadpole; that's sperm." The girl says," Oh, that makes sense." 8 A M

Maybe she's doing keto and just had a high-protein breakfast.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at January 26, 2020 10:41 PM (xkSJa)

181 58 Bat Soup again? Didn't we just have that already this week? Can't we have Three Squeaks tonight?
Posted by: mindful webworker - post-post at January 26, 2020 10:05 PM (0mP7b)

Eat me. Eat me!!!!

Posted by: Batwoman at January 26, 2020 10:42 PM (Vy7tf)

182 Watching One Punch Man. Again. Never stops being awesome.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 26, 2020 10:42 PM (NWiLs)

183 149 Donna, does the story check out? I hope your cousin's sister takes precautions.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:31 PM (ykYG2)

Apparently, he listed the unit my cousin was serving in, and described in detail what happened.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 26, 2020 10:42 PM (d6Ksn)

184 Why does Donald Trump think that this is good? It divides the country.
***

1) Killing children is wrong. And *everyone* should agree on this if you aren't a f*cking psychopath.

2) The left "half" of the country has gone insane and needs to be forcibly brought back to sanity (or convinced to leave), before they get the camps for us they so desperately want.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 26, 2020 10:43 PM (WdocV)

185 grammie gives awards to no talent musicians? damn, i had no idea.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:43 PM (KP5rU)

186 JFK Jr killed himself, his wife, and sister-in-law in a light plane in VFR weather.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:28 PM (5req4)

He
was flying at night and was only rated for daylight flying. As a boater
I can tell that even if you know the river like the back of your hand
in daylight, nighttime is something altogether different. The shore
lights interrupt so much, that they can mask the navigation markers, and
the pattern that you are seeing is not where you think that pattern
ought to be. Nighttime is completely messed up when you are on the water
and you better be sober; I can't even imagine flying at night.

..............
I still don't buy that.
Losing your way in the dark is a helluva long way away from crashing into the ocean.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 10:43 PM (CjFDo)

187 {{{Ladyl}}}}

Posted by: wing at January 26, 2020 10:43 PM (JFzNN)

188 121 Who else died in a helicopter crash?

Francis Gary Powers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:19 PM (5req4)

Stevie Ray Vaughn.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at January 26, 2020 10:44 PM (Vy7tf)

189 Re: Florida Man

There is a delightful children's picture book by the great Peter Spier called "Oh, Were They Ever Happy".

Mom and Dad leave for the day, the babysitter doesn't show up, the kids recall Mom nagging Dad about getting the house painted... you can fill in the rest.

Posted by: sal at January 26, 2020 10:44 PM (bo8pf)

190 Bug, meet windshield.

Yeah, bad juju all the way around. Ran out of water and he ran out of beer. Tack, tack, tack, pull in those sails. Starboard, starboard, starboard. And that was after the sunny afternoon when we saw dolphins.

That whole 2 day trip is seared into my hippocamus.

Posted by: Infidel at January 26, 2020 10:44 PM (MTxDQ)

191 G-d speed, Donna!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:44 PM (ykYG2)

192 125 rode on helicopter once. never again.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

I rode in one once and I loved it. I had taken one of those 7 day raft trips through the Grand Canyon. At the end, they brought you out of the canyon by helicopter, took you to an airstrip, then a small airplane piloted by an aging cowboy flew you back to where you had started the raft trip.

The cowboy flying the small airplane over the Grand Canyon was scarier than the helicopter. He would fly it on its side so you could look down at the canyon.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 26, 2020 10:44 PM (+lVUW)

193 Terrorist group al Shabaab has banned single-use plastic bags.
***

The town I moved to has apparently banned "single use" plastic bags. However they require your trash to be placed in a single use trash bag you MUST buy from the town.

Funny how that works...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 26, 2020 10:45 PM (WdocV)

194 Michelle/Michael for the win!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 10:38 PM (BiNEL)
* * * *

Gag.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 10:45 PM (fNFgo)

195 I'm getting a 404 for the French article.

Posted by: For the record Again at January 26, 2020 10:45 PM (/LQkF)

196 He was flying at night and was only rated for daylight flying.

ah, the Graveyard Spiral. I remember reading about this in the "Putting The Science In Science Fiction" book.

Do NOT fly at night if you do not know how to fly at night.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:45 PM (ykYG2)

197 Senator Warren has knowingly impersonated a motorcyclist, and now has
fucked with a B-17 pilot. She probably thinks that this weill cause
good things to happen to her.

I'm waiting for her to start telling tales of serving in Vietnam. And will DaNang Dick call her out?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at January 26, 2020 10:45 PM (xkSJa)

198 186: he lost the horizon. blended into the sea.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:46 PM (KP5rU)

199 Apparently, he listed the unit my cousin was serving in, and described in detail what happened.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 26, 2020 10:42 PM (d6Ksn)

I am also not sure what someone would have to gain by passing himself off as a vet who unintentionally killed another Marine. It's not like my cousin is wealthy.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 26, 2020 10:46 PM (d6Ksn)

200 Senator Warren has knowingly impersonated a motorcyclist...

====

Was she riding an Indian?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 10:46 PM (eYD0A)

201 Stevie Ray Vaughn helicopter also crashed in foggy weather conditions.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at January 26, 2020 10:46 PM (Vy7tf)

202 The prof seemed pretty quick identifying the tadpole. What grade did the girl get?

Posted by: davidt at January 26, 2020 10:47 PM (l3+k2)

203 Bolton is awesome!

Jonah Goldberg is an excellent writer.

Bill Kristol makes a good case for the Iraqi war.

Bush is a great President.

Ann Coulter is hot and always makes sense.

Trump is such a blowhard buffoon.

I voted for Romney and McCain!

- Me, years ago and completely oblivious to what a fucking retard I am.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at January 26, 2020 10:48 PM (+dsLj)

204 198 186: he lost the horizon. blended into the sea.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:46 PM (KP5rU)

He also wasn't instrument-rated IIRC.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 26, 2020 10:48 PM (NWiLs)

205 According to a new report from NBC, France is pleading with President
Trump to not cut off U.S. military support to French forces fighting
Islamist militants in Africa.
***

France's GDP is about $3T, and the 7th largest in the world. They could likely afford to go to war with EVERY COUNTRY in sub saharn Africa and win. But they might have to cut back on the cushy government jobs....

Posted by: 18-1 at January 26, 2020 10:49 PM (WdocV)

206 My GF bought a used sewing machine without a presser foot, so I bought the kit for all the various feet available for that model.

I have no idea what they all do. I think some of them fold space.

I put the identifiable foot to use, as I ripped up a worn out dress shirt and made a tea towel and a pocket square from the material.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 26, 2020 10:49 PM (6rS3m)

207 The prof seemed pretty quick identifying the tadpole. What grade did the girl get?
Posted by: davidt at January 26, 2020 10:47 PM (l3+k2)
----
Aced the oral presentation.

Posted by: BluesFish at January 26, 2020 10:49 PM (WQZ1O)

208 "We are artists and we are sensitive about our (expletive).' We are passionate. For most of us, this is all we got. This is our only hope"

Tuff titties, it's not like you haven't been way overpaid yourself. You don't hear the metal bands bitching, do you?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 26, 2020 10:50 PM (1ZVO2)

209 204: this is known. it was a suicide run.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:50 PM (KP5rU)

210 I still don't buy that.
Losing your way in the dark is a helluva long way away from crashing into the ocean.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 10:43 PM (CjFDo)

He was over water. If he couldn't see any lights on the horizon, he may have lost his awareness of the aircraft's flight attitude. Greenhorn pilots then typically haul back on the control yoke, because they are convinced they are losing altitude. Eventually, the aircraft stalls, and goes into a spin. Game over. Friend of mine, a commercial pilot, said from the time the pilot loses his sense of the horizon, until the fatal spin begins, can be as little as 30 seconds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 26, 2020 10:50 PM (LxWV7)

211 Losing your way in the dark is a helluva long way away from crashing into the ocean.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

His big mistake was taking off. In those conditions, with his skills and the way that plane was equipped - it was almost suicide. You'd have trouble getting permission to fly an OV1 in those conditions in combat.

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2020 10:50 PM (mYGbK)

212 JFK Jr killed himself, his wife, and sister-in-law in a light plane in VFR weather.
----

My theory has always been that the two of them were nagging him because they were going to be late. He deliberately augered in to stop the nagging.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 10:51 PM (eYD0A)

213
I . . . I sort of like that psychedelic Florida house. It does make me laugh.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 10:51 PM (13CQC)

214 Bolton is awesome!
Jonah Goldberg is an excellent writer.
Bill Kristol makes a good case for the Iraqi war.
Bush is a great President.
Ann Coulter is hot and always makes sense.
Trump is such a blowhard buffoon.
I voted for Romney and McCain!

- Me, years ago and completely oblivious to what a fucking retard I am.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at January 26, 2020 10:48 PM (+dsLj)
* * * *

Chill. That was then, this is now. You are a better person now!

And not in any way alone in your past support for those listed, by the way....

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 10:51 PM (fNFgo)

215 JFK Jr killed himself, his wife, and sister-in-law in a light plane in VFR weather.

***

He was likely the best of that klan sadly...one wonders what he would be doing today if he hadn't gotten himself (and the others) killed.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 26, 2020 10:52 PM (WdocV)

216 Warren could well be toast. She's not going to win IA and she's tanking in NH, which is supposed to be her turf. Her chances in SC are nonexistent unless she has momentum building up.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:52 PM (ykYG2)

217 "
Why does Donald Trump think that this is good? It divides the country."

If you do not agree with me, you are dividing the country. What? What do you mean *I* should change *my* opinion? Unless *you* change to agree with *me* you are just a divisive Hatey McHaterson - the very idea to ask that I change to agree with you!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 10:52 PM (jWElI)

218 Why does Donald Trump think that this is good? It divides the country.

*********************

That is probably what trumps advisors also told him for 2 years before he finally told them to go fuck themselves, juany boy.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at January 26, 2020 10:52 PM (+dsLj)

219 My balls are itchy. Will someone please scratch them?

Posted by: ggreg at January 26, 2020 10:52 PM (045k4)

220
What did Bolton (supposedly) say??

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 26, 2020 10:53 PM (iC1hJ)

221 Love

that lighthouse flag picture and Eddie rocks

Posted by: Summer of Love at January 26, 2020 10:53 PM (FJrl0)

222 Didn't JFK Jr have a cast on his arm as well?

Posted by: davidt at January 26, 2020 10:53 PM (l3+k2)

223 Why would anyone vote for Warren?

Bernie is a more genuine socialist and Biden, well if he wasn't a corrupt, crazy, child molester, would be a much more electable candidate.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 26, 2020 10:53 PM (WdocV)

224 215: pissing and moaning about orangeman.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:53 PM (KP5rU)

225 "He also wasn't instrument-rated"

Not unlike most of the grammy award winners...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 26, 2020 10:53 PM (1ZVO2)

226 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Secrets.

He was born on the island of Lesbos, and nobody knew that before he got the t-shirt.

Posted by: mikeski at January 26, 2020 10:53 PM (P1f+c)

227 I put the identifiable foot to use, as I ripped up a worn out dress shirt and made a tea towel and a pocket square from the material.
Posted by: Kindltot
----------

Ah. New Toy Syndrome. I've seen it before, exhibited it myself.

Nothing wrong with it, of course.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 10:54 PM (eYD0A)

228 ..............
I still don't buy that.
Losing your way in the dark is a helluva long way away from crashing into the ocean.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 10:43 PM (CjFDo)

I recall a conversation with a couple of pilots not too long after JFK Jr crashed.

I know very little about flying, but they thought that given Jr was visual-only, and the haze of the late afternoon - early evening, they thought it was understandable.

Also, Jr had a broken foot, or sprained ankle, and they thought it had an effect on his foot pedal activity.

But what I also recall with that conversation was a lot of beers.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:54 PM (sy5kK)

229 220
What did Bolton (supposedly) say??
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 26, 2020 10:53 PM (iC1hJ)
-------------------------------------------------------------------

He wants to play with me and my dog and peanut butter and...

Posted by: ggreg at January 26, 2020 10:54 PM (045k4)

230 045k4 - troll

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:54 PM (ykYG2)

231 He was likely the best of that klan sadly...one wonders what he would be doing today if he hadn't gotten himself (and the others) killed.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 26, 2020 10:52 PM (WdocV)

He learned to fly in an ultralight in Argos, Indiana.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at January 26, 2020 10:55 PM (Vy7tf)

232 Getting killed JFK, Jr. style is common enough that VFR sectionals have boilerplate over large bodies of water, e.g. Lake Michigan, stating "CAUTION: Be prepared for loss of horizontal reference at low altitude over lake during hazy conditions and at night."

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at January 26, 2020 10:55 PM (7s3Gx)

233 198 186: he lost the horizon. blended into the sea.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:46 PM (KP5rU)

I don't fly a lot, but I have been in the air when the sun sets. The horizon basically disappears. Not being instrument-rated is fucking stupid.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 10:55 PM (x8Wzq)

234 The French don't want to pay for their own wars. New Zealand disbands their Air Force to pay for worthless armored cars.

We should not be supporting this.

Posted by: With allies like these... at January 26, 2020 10:56 PM (/LQkF)

235 "one wonders what he would be doing today if he hadn't gotten himself (and the others) killed."

Lecturing us on climate bs?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 26, 2020 10:56 PM (1ZVO2)

236
He was over water. If he couldn't see any lights
on the horizon, he may have lost his awareness of the aircraft's flight
attitude. Greenhorn pilots then typically haul back on the control
yoke, because they are convinced they are losing altitude. Eventually,
the aircraft stalls, and goes into a spin. Game over. Friend of mine, a
commercial pilot, said from the time the pilot loses his sense of the
horizon, until the fatal spin begins, can be as little as 30 seconds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

............
OK. Admittedly, I have zero experience here.
But it seems to me basic controls would tell you that you are fucking up big time.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 10:56 PM (CjFDo)

237 Chill. That was then, this is now. You are a better person now!

**********

I wish I had been smarter, it always seemed like my politics were reactionary, if the media hated Bush and Romney for example surely that meant they was going to be rock solid conservative presidents or candidates.

Lolz.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at January 26, 2020 10:56 PM (+dsLj)

238 Were you touching yourself while you typed that, ggreg?

Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 10:56 PM (TdMsT)

239 He was likely the best of that klan sadly...one wonders what he would be doing today if he hadn't gotten himself (and the others) killed.
Posted by: 18-1
-------

I assume you mean the living klan. Pretty low bar.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 10:56 PM (eYD0A)

240 215 JFK Jr killed himself, his wife, and sister-in-law in a light plane in VFR weather.

***

He was likely the best of that klan sadly...one wonders what he would be doing today if he hadn't gotten himself (and the others) killed.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 26, 2020 10:52 PM (WdocV)

He would have been Arkancided, just like any other legit competition. Duh.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:57 PM (sy5kK)

241 ggreg went to the dr. doc asked him what's the problem? ggreg told the doc, my dick is turning orange. doc asked him what he's been doing. ggreg told the doc he been eating cheetos and watching pron in his mom's basement. doc told him to get a fucking job.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:57 PM (KP5rU)

242 g g g g greg sucks cock by choice

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 26, 2020 10:57 PM (H5knJ)

243 G-golly ggreg, now I'm sincerely concerned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 10:57 PM (eYD0A)

244 (adjusts tinfoil hat to jaunty angle)

Plane crashes are a common cause of death among enemies of the Clintons. Hillary wanted to be President. JFK Jr could have run and won.

Posted by: davidt at January 26, 2020 10:58 PM (l3+k2)

245 236
He was over water. If he couldn't see any lights
on the horizon, he may have lost his awareness of the aircraft's flight
attitude. Greenhorn pilots then typically haul back on the control
yoke, because they are convinced they are losing altitude. Eventually,
the aircraft stalls, and goes into a spin. Game over. Friend of mine, a
commercial pilot, said from the time the pilot loses his sense of the
horizon, until the fatal spin begins, can be as little as 30 seconds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

this is essentially what those pilots told me.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 10:58 PM (sy5kK)

246 We have winters in Seattle, too.

The rain is colder.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

Years ago I was visiting a buddy in Seattle . It had started snowing in the early afternoon and by rush hour there was about 3 inches. My buddy said we're not going anywhere we can't walk to. His apartment was at the bottom of a rather steep hill. We dragged his sofa and a 6 pack out to the sidewalk to watch. After about a half hour of entertaining interpretive car dancing we watched a guy pull up to the stop sign at the bottom of the hill. He sat there for several minutes. Finally he turned his car off got out and walked away, leaving it at the stop sign. We walked down the block to a local dive bar that night.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...rebel without a subjunctive clause at January 26, 2020 10:58 PM (r/mKb)

247 233: exactly, pug.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 26, 2020 10:58 PM (KP5rU)

248 Good evening all! Nice ONT Miss. Hum.

Wife arrived home yesterday. Looks like I get to spend time with her until Friday. Then, lake cottage time.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 10:59 PM (Rz2Nc)

249 ggreg, ggo dip them is soy sauce, then gget fucked

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 26, 2020 10:59 PM (1ZVO2)

250 Not unlike most of the grammy award winners...
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 26, 2020 10:53 PM (1ZVO2)

Heh. Zing!

You know, the one and only time I was ever at the controls of an airplane was when I took one of those $20 introductory rides in a Cessna 150 that flying schools used to offer as a come-on.

For some reason, I could not get a good feeling for where the horizon should be relative to the sloping nose of the airplane to keep it in level flight, but I spotted the artificial horizon instrument right away, and just kept the airplane silhouette right between the horizontal bars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 26, 2020 10:59 PM (LxWV7)

251 But it seems to me basic controls would tell you that you are fucking up big time.

Not until it's too late. Your inner ear absolutely cannot be relied upon to give proper orientation without some external reference.

The portion of pilot training under the hood where the instructor takes you through unusual attitude recovery is most edifying. >8^O

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at January 26, 2020 10:59 PM (7s3Gx)

252 I don't fly a lot, but I have been in the air when
the sun sets. The horizon basically disappears. Not being
instrument-rated is fucking stupid.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 10:55 PM (x8Wzq)

I have said in this thread and will now say again that at night on boat everything gets weird and the best thing is to be off the water before sunset.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 10:59 PM (jWElI)

253 greg's been trolling and spewing disinformatsiya in here since 2010 at least. is his mom even still alive? or has she sat sheva for this disgrace of a spawn already. I bet she wishes he'd never amounted to more than a tadpole on the side of her cheek.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 10:59 PM (ykYG2)

254 He was likely the best of that klan sadly...one wonders what he would be doing today if he hadn't gotten himself (and the others) killed.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 26, 2020 10:52 PM (WdocV)

He learned to fly in an ultralight in Argos, Indiana.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom!
-----

He managed to pass the law bar, after three attempts, and no-expense-spared tutors.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 11:00 PM (eYD0A)

255 Wait, you guys. let's hear ggggreegg say his piece.

He seems super serious, you guys.

And holy crap, he is very convincing. I am taking stock in all the things I hold dear because of ggreeeggg.

Best Troll Ever!

You guys!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 11:00 PM (x8Wzq)

256 Then, lake cottage time.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 10:59 PM (Rz2Nc)
* * * *

Woohoo!

If I lived closer, I would have offered to critter sit for you last week.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 11:01 PM (fNFgo)

257 I am sure Bolton claim of what trump said will be reinforced and backed up by the many witnesses that were also in the room who also heard trump say the same thing.

Right? Oh we only have Boltons word to take for it? Is that why the media is now rewriting history by claiming they always thought Bolton was the most noblest honest bravest honorable man to ever grace Washington with his mustache?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at January 26, 2020 11:01 PM (+dsLj)

258 , but I spotted the artificial horizon instrument right away, and just kept the airplane silhouette right between the horizontal bars.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---------

Wait...is that possible?

Posted by: John-john at January 26, 2020 11:01 PM (eYD0A)

259 I watch the Grammys because once a year I get to listen to the music I never listen to the rest of the year.

Except Bonnie Raitt and a few others.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:01 PM (sy5kK)

260 216 Warren could well be toast.

Not toast. Maybe fry bread.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at January 26, 2020 11:01 PM (Vy7tf)

261 Spending 3 years investigating Trump for...umm...."colluding" with Russia = good

Spending 3 minutes investigating Biden for making bank from the Ukraine in a standard pay for play scam....CRIME OF THE CENTURY!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 26, 2020 11:02 PM (WdocV)

262 Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 10:59 PM (Rz2Nc)

Enjoy!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2020 11:02 PM (aA3+G)

263 Oh we only have Boltons word to take for it? Is that why the media is now rewriting history by claiming they always thought Bolton was the most noblest honest bravest honorable man to ever grace Washington with his mustache?
Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere
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From hated to beloved, in just one or two sentences.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 11:03 PM (eYD0A)

264 My LA fog story...

I was on a trans-Pacific Qantas flight, landing at LAX. Early morning, heavy fog, so you couldn't see the ground.

We're about thirty seconds from touchdown, when the pilot cranks up the engines, pulls the nose up, and starts climbing out of there. Plane does a 180 to head out to sea to do another approach, and the pilot comes on the intercom, and says: "Er - there was another plane on the runway."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 26, 2020 11:03 PM (I2/tG)

265 Spatial disorientation. You have to continously tell yourself to trust your instruments despite your senses telling you that your instruments are wrong.

Posted by: BluesFish at January 26, 2020 11:03 PM (WQZ1O)

266
He was likely the best of that klan sadly...one wonders what he would be doing today if he hadn't gotten himself (and the others) killed.
Posted by: 18-1

=======

JFK Jr flunked the bar exam twice and liberal journalists acknowledged his mediocrity, but they still wanted him to run for prez. He and Obama were born one year apart.

2008 was Obama's one and only year to run -- 2012 would have been off limits because Hillary would have been prez, and by 2016 he would have made numerous bumbles in the Senate and lost his boyish looks. In addition, his political career "wouldn't have killed itself" once he'd crossed the Clintons.

Jr might have added some interesting twists to all that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 11:03 PM (13CQC)

267 The STFU new age video made me laugh.

Posted by: mnw at January 26, 2020 11:04 PM (Cssks)

268 234 The French don't want to pay for their own wars. New Zealand disbands their Air Force to pay for worthless armored cars.

We should not be supporting this.
--------------------------

Nonsense.

Posted by: Chairman Xi Jinping at January 26, 2020 11:04 PM (sy5kK)

269 Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2020 10:28 PM (5req4)

He
was flying at night and was only rated for daylight flying. As a boater
I can tell that even if you know the river like the back of your hand
in daylight, nighttime is something altogether different. The shore
lights interrupt so much, that they can mask the navigation markers, and
the pattern that you are seeing is not where you think that pattern
ought to be. Nighttime is completely messed up when you are on the water
and you better be sober; I can't even imagine flying at night.

..............
I still don't buy that.
Losing your way in the dark is a helluva long way away from crashing into the ocean.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

You think she was nagging him to the point where he just decided to end it all by crashing into the ocean? She must have been a real bitch.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 26, 2020 11:04 PM (+lVUW)

270 216 Warren could well be toast.

Not toast. Maybe fry bread.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at January 26, 2020 11:01 PM (Vy7tf)
* * * *

*SNORT*

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 11:05 PM (fNFgo)

271 "But it seems to me basic controls would tell you that you are fucking up big time."

No. It's called spatial disorientation and you're not feeling what the airplane is actually doing. And it has nothing to do with experience/flight time. It's a physical effect you can't control. What you can do is learn to trust the instruments and fly them and put what you feel the plane is doing aside.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2020 11:06 PM (4thlk)

272 We're about thirty seconds from touchdown, when the pilot cranks up the engines, pulls the nose up, and starts climbing out of there. Plane does a 180 to head out to sea to do another approach, and the pilot comes on the intercom, and says: "Er - there was another plane on the runway."
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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I've told my story before. Delta flight on Thanksgiving Day. Attempted landing at fogged-in Augusta, Georgia.
We hit an approach-light tower. Hilarity ensued.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 11:06 PM (eYD0A)

273
JFK Jr flunked the bar exam twice and liberal journalists acknowledged his mediocrity, but they still wanted him to run for prez. He and Obama were born one year apart.

2008 was Obama's one and only year to run -- 2012 would have been off limits because Hillary would have been prez, and by 2016 he would have made numerous bumbles in the Senate and lost his boyish looks. In addition, his political career "wouldn't have killed itself" once he'd crossed the Clintons.

Jr might have added some interesting twists to all that.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 11:03 PM (13CQC)

If, somehow, Jr was to be alive today, he would be leading these Prez candidate DRats by Fifty Points right now.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:07 PM (sy5kK)

274 Hot babe music video from PMJ, complete with some Charleston...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ue4d9og

Posted by: davidt at January 26, 2020 11:07 PM (l3+k2)

275 You think she was nagging him to the point where he just decided to end it all by crashing into the ocean? She must have been a real bitch.
Posted by: nerdygirl
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See: 212

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 11:07 PM (eYD0A)

276 I was never much of a fan of van halen, mostly because a lot of his leads sounded like throwing a box of springs down the stairs, but..... his work and contributions towards the evolution of the 5150 and EVH guitar amps is a huge, HUGE gift to metal guitar players. I could never thank him enough for that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 26, 2020 11:08 PM (9Om/r)

277 Is the latest Kennedy spawn still running against Markey in MA?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 11:08 PM (ykYG2)

278 If, somehow, Jr was to be alive today, he would be leading these Prez candidate DRats by Fifty Points right now.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:07 PM (sy5kK)
* * * *

Or maybe he would have pulled a (former) Prince Harry and retreated to a private life.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 11:08 PM (fNFgo)

279
"But it seems to me basic controls would tell you that you are fucking up big time."

No. It's called spatial disorientation and you're not feeling what the airplane is actually doing. And it has nothing to do with experience/flight time. It's a physical effect you can't control. What you can do is learn to trust the instruments and fly them and put what you feel the plane is doing aside.
Posted by: lowandslow

========

Your conclusion supported his supposition. It's about following the controls.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 11:10 PM (13CQC)

280 I have said in this thread and will now say again that at night on boat everything gets weird and the best thing is to be off the water before sunset.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 10:59 PM (jWElI)

Heh. We hauled a group of tourists in our boat to the pier one day giving them repeated, explicit instruction as to what time we would be leaving the pier in order to return back to our place BEFORE DARK. They pulled up in their van as we were underway and we could hear them screaming frantically for us to return.

heh. eh, no. They spent a most unpleasant night at a dive hotel with no toothbrushes....or clean clothes. And we made it back to our beach safely right at sunset.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at January 26, 2020 11:10 PM (Vy7tf)

281 and the Chappaquiddick movie is required viewing, IMO.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 11:10 PM (ykYG2)

282 Howdy late night persons!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:11 PM (PkVlr)

283 I still don't buy that.
Losing your way in the dark is a helluva long way away from crashing into the ocean.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

You think she was nagging him to the point where he just decided to end it all by crashing into the ocean? She must have been a real bitch.
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 26, 2020 11:04 PM (+lVUW)

Chi-Town Jerry

I remember when this happened. Rush Limbaugh explained the benefits of being instrument rated, and that the sundown horizon is incredibly vague, and that you can slowly descend without even knowing you are descending. Bill Whittle also wrote about a pilot needing to be instrument rated: In other words, do not trust your eyes. Trust the instruments.

Bottom line: JFK Jr. augured in without even realizing it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at January 26, 2020 11:11 PM (x8Wzq)

284 Hi Nurse!

Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 11:12 PM (TdMsT)

285 Sorry, folks--RANT

So, I'm now being sued, have to go into bankruptcy (wow is that expensive), own nothing worthwhile, have tinnitus, numb feet and a cracked painful tooth. Plus I'd love to afford a cat, but I can't afford a cat where I live. And I have a terrible jerk boss.

Hope your 2020 is going a lot better than mine.

/RANT.

Apologies to you all, hope you are having a great Sunday and are looking forward to a wonderful Monday. See you then.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 26, 2020 11:12 PM (l9m7l)

286 Woohoo!

If I lived closer, I would have offered to critter sit for you last week.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 11:01 PM (fNFgo)

Wow, that's rather kind of you. I don't really mind taking care of the critters. It's just here, all my neighbors are really nice, but are Amish or Mennonite. At the lake I have more in common with the neighbors, both places are rather peaceful.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 11:13 PM (Rz2Nc)

287 ..OK. Admittedly, I have zero experience here.
But it seems to me basic controls would tell you that you are fucking up big time.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 10:56 PM (CjFDo)

When you lose the horizon, quit lookin' outta the damn winders.

That Attitude Indicator, Vertical Speed Indicator and Altimeter will serve VERY well, if you just watch THEM instead of the now-useless (non) view outta the damn windshield.

Now, you still might be screwed without actual IFR navigational skills, i.e: not knowing how to use the charts, Navigation Radio, Glideslope Indicator and a few other key skills.

But if you use the panel there in front of you, it'll tell you what you need to maintain straight on course, wings level, pinned to your intended altitude and THEN you can get on the VHF voice radio and holler for HELP!

I had the bad luck, but good fortune to fly in "scudding clouds" with about 2,000 ft. agl base, with a very sharp instructor. He let me fly some through some of the lower puffs, just to know those instruments as they're meant to be used.

No, that's not IFR qualified. But as he explained, that's what it can look like right before you're in way more trouble than you can handle. So, descend 500 ft. and get below the haze.

Which we did, but alas, it kept closing in, so he took the controls and adroitly brought us back to the wee tiny airport. (West Park Airport, San Antonio, TX. The site of which is now a trailer park, alas.)

Valuable lesson though.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 26, 2020 11:13 PM (QzJWU)

288
Gary Clark Jr.

There is hope for the future.

Some of his blues stuff is really good.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:14 PM (sy5kK)

289 It is time to fire everybody in the NSA.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 26, 2020 11:14 PM (u/mzV)

290 rode on helicopter once. never again.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

First helicopter ride was also my first forrest fire experience. Pilot flew at tree top level and followed the terrain all the way in. I was green before we got there. My boss was laughing. I asked if he flew that way all the time and he said yep apparently that's how he learned to fly. Asked where in the heck would he learn to fly like that? Nam.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...rebel without a subjunctive clause at January 26, 2020 11:15 PM (r/mKb)

291 LeftCoast, Billy Gibbons has been coming-out with some great music lately too.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 26, 2020 11:15 PM (L2ZTs)

292
Around this time last year I got a job. Yay! Turns out I hate it and now I'm looking for another one. C'mon, Trumponomics! Save me from this salt mine and deliver me to another salt mine.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 11:16 PM (13CQC)

293 "Your conclusion supported his supposition. It's about following the controls."

No. You physically input the controls, mind to hand/feet to the controls. In short you're the controls. When you're experiencing spacial disorientation your feeling a sensation of banking or climbing or skidding when it's not happening.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2020 11:17 PM (4thlk)

294 Some of ZZ Top's latest...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/wcod5ea

Posted by: davidt at January 26, 2020 11:17 PM (l3+k2)

295 Blonde, that's kinda/sorta how I feel right now.

I love having my column, but am not super-happy with some other aspects of my job.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 26, 2020 11:17 PM (L2ZTs)

296 BeckoningChasm

I'm so sorry. That's not a rant; that's a cry for help. I said a prayer for you.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 26, 2020 11:17 PM (+CiEK)

297
Greetings, Night Nurse!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 11:17 PM (13CQC)

298 OK. Admittedly, I have zero experience here.
But it seems to me basic controls would tell you that you are fucking up big time.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 10:56 PM (CjFDo)

newbies tend to believe their inner ear instead of the gyro compass and horizon, and climb gauge.
Often newbies don't really understand what they do because they are basically driving a car in the air.

Your inner ear only feels changes in balance, and if you are climbing or banking you are under some centripedal acceleration that can fool your ear, especially if you can't verify it visually by the horizon.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (6rS3m)

299 I find myself having very little to say at the moment. Odd.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (NWiLs)

300 282 Howdy late night persons!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:11 PM (PkVlr)

nurse, you usually get up at OhDarkThirty.

It's really a different world here.

You're brave to show up here, unarmed.

Of course, nothing you can't handle.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (sy5kK)

301 287 ..OK. Admittedly, I have zero experience here.
But it seems to me basic controls would tell you that you are fucking up big time.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2020 10:56 PM (CjFDo)

Unfortunately when flying, when you lose vision, your brain reverts to your balance center and seat of the pants for attitude control. Both of which lie and kill you.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (u/mzV)

302 BeckoningChasm

I'm so sorry. That's not a rant; that's a cry for help. I said a prayer for you.

Sorry, I accidentally used your name, because I'm stupid.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (+CiEK)

303
I find myself having very little to say at the moment. Odd.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (NWiLs)

That is odd, you feeling ok? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (9Om/r)

304 Was out of town for the first time in ages, first time since I broke my ankle at the end of April. Went to a meet up with 4 guys I went to college with in 1973. It's weird that it's been 46 years and holy moly I had a blast.

So I'm just catching up here anyting in this ONT that I need to know about or last night I just skimmed it. Hope nobody has died and somebody's getting better. Anyone heard from Slapweasel?

Posted by: Farmer at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (6lDgd)

305 @296 - Um, I didn't post that.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (l9m7l)

306 @296 but thank you anyway.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 26, 2020 11:19 PM (l9m7l)

307 Which we did, but alas, it kept closing in, so he took the controls and adroitly brought us back to the wee tiny airport. (West Park Airport, San Antonio, TX. The site of which is now a trailer park, alas.)

Valuable lesson though.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 26, 2020 11:13 PM (QzJWU)

IIRC, Junior was flying parallel to the coast, aiming for an island. Once he lost the daylight, he should have turned to West compass course, and then used his instruments to maintain altitude. Once over land, he ought to have been able too see lights, and find the horizon again. And if he got on the radio, Air Traffic Control could probably find him on radar, and direct him to a safe airfield to land on.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 26, 2020 11:19 PM (LxWV7)

308 Around this time last year I got a job. Yay! Turns out I hate it and now
I'm looking for another one. C'mon, Trumponomics! Save me from this
salt mine and deliver me to another salt mine.

Happy hunting. I'm on my fifth job in the last 2 1/2 years. May stick with this one for a while 'cause I'm not a contractor for a change.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at January 26, 2020 11:19 PM (xkSJa)

309 They were flying over a kardashian house. Maybe someone was out at the pool and distracted the pilot.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 26, 2020 11:19 PM (u/mzV)

310
Blonde, that's kinda/sorta how I feel right now.

I love having my column, but am not super-happy with some other aspects of my job.
Posted by: qdpsteve

======

Funny, isn't it? I have a nephew whose life I envy the hell out of. He travels the world building tunnels and bridges and he's not a wage slave.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 11:19 PM (13CQC)

311 305 @296 - Um, I didn't post that.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

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I did stare at that for a time.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 26, 2020 11:20 PM (Y4EXg)

312 Wow, that's rather kind of you. I don't really mind taking care of the critters. It's just here, all my neighbors are really nice, but are Amish or Mennonite. At the lake I have more in common with the neighbors, both places are rather peaceful.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 11:13 PM (Rz2Nc)
* * * *

Sounds like the best of two peaceful worlds! But we can tell you prefer being at the lake, and rightly so.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 11:20 PM (fNFgo)

313 So what reprehensible 'news' agency jumped Trump's shit for expressing his condolences.

Because you know they did.

Posted by: torabora at January 26, 2020 11:20 PM (rSLbf)

314 Enjoy!
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 26, 2020 11:02 PM (aA3+G)

Thanks! I will, thinking about buying a new TV for out there before the Super Bowl. Or after, before spring. Wife and I discussed Lake Hartwell S.C. A bit tonight, thinking a trip to the area soon. Good crappie fishing starting late Feb., early March.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 11:20 PM (Rz2Nc)

315 Howdy late night persons!

How is Lucy? Still glaring at you?

Posted by: Basement Cat at January 26, 2020 11:21 PM (pPNCa)

316 My fog story still gives me palpitations.

My ex and I were crossing the Straits of Juan de Fuca in our 25 foot Catalina sailboat when we hit a fogbank about halfway across. It was so dense I couldn't see the bow of the boat from the cockpit. I had the airhorn out and we were hearing the big tankers coming in from the ocean. Locating sound is nearly impossible with the much fog.

We went as fast as we could to get close enough to some of the islands to be out of the shipping lanes. Our two young boys played in the salon below and had no clue. I was terrified.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:21 PM (PkVlr)

317 >>I have said in this thread and will now say again that at night on boat everything gets weird and the best thing is to be off the water before sunset.

Gotta disagree with you on that one. Some of the best times of my life have been on the water in the middle of the night.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2020 11:21 PM (ZLI7S)

318 The cowboy flying the small airplane over the Grand Canyon was scarier than the helicopter. He would fly it on its side so you could look down at the canyon.
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 26, 2020 10:44 PM (+lVUW)

I was on a plane that did that, a commercial 727 over Mexico, headed down to Guadalara. (I've been told that most commercial pilots in Mexico are frustrated wannabe fighter pilots) But after being scared to death that the plane was going to crash, I looked out the window (so did everyone else) and below us was solid jungle, with a deep narrow canyon cutting through it like a giant knife cut. And just below us, big river was flowing out of the jungle into the canyon producing one of the most magnificent waterfalls I've seen, and I don't even know it's name.

The sight actually made the hot shot flying worth it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 26, 2020 11:22 PM (V2Yro)

319 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 11:16 PM (13CQC)
* * * *

Prayers up for that better job!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 11:22 PM (fNFgo)

320 291 LeftCoast, Billy Gibbons has been coming-out with some great music lately too.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 26, 2020 11:15 PM (L2ZTs)

absolutely!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:22 PM (sy5kK)

321 Beckoning Chasm--I'm so sorry you are having such a tough time.

I'll keep praying for you.

Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 11:22 PM (TdMsT)

322 313 So what reprehensible 'news' agency jumped Trump's shit for expressing his condolences.

Because you know they did.
Posted by: torabora at January 26,

OMG trump tweeted: "Reports are that... Kobe Bryant...is terrible".

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 26, 2020 11:23 PM (u/mzV)

323 Once over land, he ought to have been able too see lights, and find the horizon again. And if he got on the radio, Air Traffic Control could probably find him on radar, and direct him to a safe airfield to land on.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

----

But he was a Kennedy AOP! They can do anything without help!!

(except ski through trees, rescue a woman in 8 feet of water, see/hear a destroyer bearing down on you, take care of a mentally disabled daughter, oppose the Nazis, etc., etc.)

Posted by: Tonypete at January 26, 2020 11:24 PM (Y4EXg)

324 Gotta disagree with you on that one. Some of the best times of my life have been on the water in the middle of the night.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2020 11:21 PM (ZLI7S)

some of the best times of my life have been on the sauce in the middle of the night.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 26, 2020 11:24 PM (V2Yro)

325 Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at January 26, 2020 11:10 PM (Vy7tf)

You understand. Nighttime is no time to try and exercise skills in navigation that you have never before learned. Everything is different, even fatally different.

So much so that on a normal daylight Coast Guard Auxiliary patrol we check in every thirty minutes; at night it is every fifteen minutes.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 11:24 PM (jWElI)

326
Trombone Shorty playing the New Orleans jazz style of wake music after they showed those in the music industry that passed.

Dawg approves.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:24 PM (sy5kK)

327 It's really a different world here.

You're brave to show up here, unarmed.

Of course, nothing you can't handle.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (sy5kK)
* * * *

Who says Nurse is unarmed? (grin)

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 11:24 PM (fNFgo)

328 How hard can it be?

Posted by: Harrison Ford at January 26, 2020 11:24 PM (eYD0A)

329 Man, Bolton's a jerk. I used to think so, but deferred to many who seemed to think him tough and competent.

Or, or is it And (?)

I should go tooo bddd ed *z*

A♠❚❙❙❘❘❘

Posted by: mindful webworker - who knew at January 26, 2020 11:24 PM (0mP7b)

330 Bolton submitted his book manuscript to the NSA for review of possible classified info. Some NSA stooge ran to the NYT and reported that Bolton claims trump directed the funds be held until Z investigated the Bidens. NYT runs with the story.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 26, 2020 11:25 PM (u/mzV)

331 Hi basement cat!

Lucy is currently sitting on my lap with her back to me. If I start to move, I get claws.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:26 PM (PkVlr)

332
If you do not agree with me, you are dividing the country. What? What do you mean *I* should change *my* opinion? Unless *you* change to agree with *me* you are just a divisive Hatey McHaterson - the very idea to ask that I change to agree with you!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 10:52 PM (jWElI

I had this experience with a former student who came over yesterday. I hadn't seen her in years, and she has gone full abortion loving, open borders democrat. She even upset my dog, who broke his tail trying to bark at her to leave. Not even a thank you for the food we made and sent home with her. But I'm evil because I dared to push back on the definition of "alien."

No longer welcome. Especially because of my dog, poor baby.

Posted by: Moki at January 26, 2020 11:27 PM (mFoNl)

333 So Bolton turned out to be a fucking piece of shit. I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: Mark1971 at January 26, 2020 11:27 PM (xPl2J)

334 Which are you going to believe? Me, or your lying, non-avian animal senses? Decide quickly; gravity never sleeps!

Posted by: Aircraft Instruments at January 26, 2020 11:27 PM (AMIL/)

335 OMG trump tweeted: "Reports are that... Kobe Bryant...is terrible".
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
--------

I'm still upset that his defense team is so un-diverse.

Posted by: Extremely concerned conservative veteran at January 26, 2020 11:27 PM (eYD0A)

336 So I'm just catching up here anyting in this ONT that I need to know about or last night I just skimmed it. Hope nobody has died and somebody's getting better. Anyone heard from Slapweasel?
Posted by: Farmer at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (6lDgd)

Slapweasel is doing OK. He has been in touch.

But Notsothoreau's hubby passed away two days ago.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 26, 2020 11:28 PM (LxWV7)

337 Red Letter Media now have their review of Picard up

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 11:28 PM (ykYG2)

338 I talked to Slap a couple of days ago. He had a terrible virus and he is feeling a little better. He needs an organ transplant and LOTS of prayer.

Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 11:30 PM (TdMsT)

339 If I start to move, I get claws.

My cats do that too. One way I can get them to stop clawing is to shake the treat bag that I keep on my desk.

Posted by: Basement Cat at January 26, 2020 11:30 PM (pPNCa)

340 Bolton and the Dems have run circles around Trump and the GOP.

They played this perfectly.

Now, does Trump and McConnell have any tricks up their sleeves to fight back with?

Posted by: ggreg at January 26, 2020 11:30 PM (045k4)

341 Hey Horde

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:30 PM (IDhUW)

342 330 Bolton submitted his book manuscript to the NSA for review of possible classified info. Some NSA stooge ran to the NYT and reported that Bolton claims trump directed the funds be held until Z investigated the Bidens. NYT runs with the story.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 26, 2020 11:25 PM (u/mzV)

Odds of democrat-desired witnesses being subpoenaed just jumped from about 10% to 75% by my reckoning. Big-time week coming up.

Posted by: Aircraft Instruments at January 26, 2020 11:31 PM (AMIL/)

343 Bolton submitted his book manuscript to the NSA for review of possible classified info. Some NSA stooge ran to the NYT and reported that Bolton claims trump directed the funds be held until Z investigated the Bidens. NYT runs with the story.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 26, 2020 11:25 PM (u/mzV)

1. It's the NYT. Lying is their stock in trade.

2. Even if true, so what? It's fully within the President's power to do that, no illegality at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 26, 2020 11:31 PM (LxWV7)

344 Red Letter Media now have their review of Picard up
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 11:28 PM (ykYG2)

Still making that Clubman talcum powder?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 26, 2020 11:31 PM (6rS3m)

345 Lucy is currently sitting on my lap with her back to me. If I start to move, I get claws.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:26 PM (PkVlr)

Lydia is on my lap. If I start to move, she becomes semi-solid. Cats are non-Newtonian fluids.

Oh, except Oscar. He's a meat slinky stuffed into a furry tube sock.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 26, 2020 11:31 PM (t+qrx)

346 Sounds like the best of two peaceful worlds! But we can tell you prefer being at the lake, and rightly so.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 26, 2020 11:20 PM (fNFgo)

Lol, maybe true. When I'm at the country estate (lmao) I don't want to leave, but then when I'm at the lake cottage I don't want to leave there either. Wife and I are discussing are next stage in life and it's on a lake in S.C. or Georgia (or U.S.V.I or Florida Keys).

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 11:31 PM (Rz2Nc)

347 That is odd, you feeling ok? lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 26, 2020 11:18 PM (9Om/r)

No coronavirus or anything...as far as I know. Just a bit depleted, I guess.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 26, 2020 11:32 PM (NWiLs)

348 Lol, ggreg is hilarious and has no idea what is going on, poor yhing

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:32 PM (IDhUW)

349 >>Bolton submitted his book manuscript to the NSA for review of possible classified info. Some NSA stooge ran to the NYT and reported that Bolton claims trump directed the funds be held until Z investigated the Bidens. NYT runs with the story.

He submitted it to the White House which in turn gave it to the NSC, not the NSA, to review.

By my reckoning this is the 853 time the walls are closing in while the wheels are coming off on Trump. Might be best to wait to see what someone other than the NYT or WaPo has to say. They've been known to be wrong about Trump leak before. Pretty much every single time.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2020 11:33 PM (ZLI7S)

350 Still making that Clubman talcum powder?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 26, 2020 11:31 PM (6rS3m)

Isn't that what ggerg huffs?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 26, 2020 11:34 PM (LxWV7)

351 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 26, 2020 11:12 PM (l9m7l)

Sorry for all of that. Good luck going forward.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 11:34 PM (jWElI)

352 Well, I'm hungry. I'm giving Hammer a couple of head-butts, and if he doesn't get the message, I'm going to bite the piss out of his hand while he's typing. He never sees it coming, dumbass.

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at January 26, 2020 11:34 PM (eYD0A)

353 Ying is how it self identifies

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:34 PM (IDhUW)

354 Gotta disagree with you on that one. Some of the best times of my life have been on the water in the middle of the night.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2020 11:21 PM (ZLI7S)

Absolutely, being on the water at night is awesome.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 11:34 PM (Rz2Nc)

355 Bill Graham (rock and roll promoter) died in a helicopter crash, along with his pilot.
Low visibility, electrical tower.

Posted by: atilla the thrilla at January 26, 2020 11:36 PM (w7KSn)

356

"But it seems to me basic controls would tell you that you are fucking up big time."

I already commented on you're basically the controls but the first thing you actually learn when you're recovering from an unusual attitude on instruments is to let go of the controls for a few seconds and allow the plane to stabilize without you screwing things up worse. Then you take an assessment of the instruments and what the airplane is doing, then you recover.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2020 11:36 PM (4thlk)

357 Sailing at night is amazing. You can get away from the light pollution and see more stars than you can imagine. Plus, the Northern Lights!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:36 PM (PkVlr)

358 Cats are fun critters, don't have any here at the moment, tho

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:37 PM (IDhUW)

359
Guess I need to start listening to some Billie Eilish.

Hope their music isn't totally ruined by PC.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (sy5kK)

360 I accidentally typed axe instead of ace trying to get here tonight. And I discovered that there are two venues for axe-throwing within 30 minutes of me. Which I would never have guessed.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (I99aF)

361 354 Gotta disagree with you on that one. Some of the best times of my life have been on the water in the middle of the night.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2020 11:21 PM (ZLI7S)

Absolutely, being on the water at night is awesome.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 11:34 PM (Rz2Nc)

I was on a jet ski at night on Apple Valley Lake, which is terrible over-boated. The jet ski dropped the rudder pin, and until I was rescued, I came close to being hit by by about 10 motor boats.

Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (TdMsT)

362 Sailing at night is amazing.
----
This is true. Hi nurse

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (IDhUW)

363 359
Guess I need to start listening to some Billie Eilish.

Hope their music isn't totally ruined by PC.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (sy5kK)

She's...weird. Really really weird.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 26, 2020 11:39 PM (NWiLs)

364 San Franscisco mayor comment confirms that we live in very silly times.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:40 PM (IDhUW)

365 Anybody wanna hazard a guess at ggreg's yap swab results?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 26, 2020 11:41 PM (1ZVO2)

366 g man - you said "played this perfectly".

I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 26, 2020 11:41 PM (Y4EXg)

367
Gotta disagree with you on that one. Some of the best times of my life have been on the water in the middle of the night.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2020 11:21 PM (ZLI7S)

Where are the freighters? Where are the other boats and are their drivers lit as f*ck?

Because on the Detroit River you have to deal with both, and south of Ecorse all of the channels and shallows and islands. If you have a cruiser and are not moored (or aren't one of the fishermen*) then getting out of the channel, dropping anchor, and spending a night like that is pretty darn good.

*they are nuts

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 11:41 PM (jWElI)

368 From _Breitbart_, re: the Bolton / NSC story:
https://tinyurl.com/tuxchh5

'Yevgeny Vindman (Alexander Vindman's brother) is
in charge of reviewing NSC officials' publications', to
paraphrase. Hmmm.

Posted by: gdgm+ at January 26, 2020 11:41 PM (ExnWy)

369 352 Well, I'm hungry. I'm giving Hammer a couple of head-butts, and if he doesn't get the message, I'm going to bite the piss out of his hand while he's typing. He never sees it coming, dumbass.
Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at January 26, 2020 11:34 PM (eYD0A)

I laughed way, way too hard just now.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:42 PM (sy5kK)

370 My wife had me buy her a Billie Elish CD. It's anti-music, IMO.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 26, 2020 11:42 PM (I99aF)

371 I accidentally typed axe instead of ace trying to get here tonight. And I discovered that there are two venues for axe-throwing within 30 minutes of me. Which I would never have guessed.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (I99aF)

Anywhere you happen to be is a venue for axe throwing when you have an axe, is how I see it. Not that anyone axed me.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 26, 2020 11:42 PM (t+qrx)

372 The diversity pic is wonderful. Thank goodness we are free to accept orange Americans

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:44 PM (IDhUW)

373 Eddie Van Halen stole my main teen crush.

Posted by: Kazi at January 26, 2020 11:44 PM (0x00j)

374 "Red Letter Media now have their review of Picard up"

Got it playing in the background now, they're really taking a torch to them shoving their woke anti-racists views in it and destroying Roddenberry's vision of Star Trek and the future.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 26, 2020 11:44 PM (4thlk)

375 Hi AmericanKestral! Hi Ladyl! Smooches, Insom!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:44 PM (PkVlr)

376 Helicopter.

I hesitate to do this because, Wall-o-Text, but he was a friend, and if not here, then where?

Name: CPT Joe Wofford Eubanks
Status: Killed In Action from an incident on 06/02/1972 while performing the duty of Pilot.
Age at death: 25.8
Date of Birth: 07/30/1946
Home City: Concord, NC
Service: AR branch of the regular component of the U.S. Army.
Unit: 57 AHC
Major organization: 1st Aviation Brigade
Flight class: 71-26
Service: AR branch of the U.S. Army.
The Wall location: 01W-034
Short Summary: Resupplying ARVN near Kontum, .51 cal shot out cyclic control causing hard landing. Joe was trapped and burned. AC Bruce Delan OK.
Aircraft: UH-1H tail number 67-17446
Call sign: Gladiator
Country: South Vietnam
MOS: 1981 = 19 Rotary Wing Aviator (Unit Commander)
Primary cause: Hostile Fire
Major attributing cause: aircraft connected not at sea
Compliment cause: suffocation or strangulation
Vehicle involved: helicopter
Position in vehicle: aircraft commander
Vehicle ownership: government
Started Tour: 11/13/1971
"Official" listing: helicopter air casualty - other aircrew
The initial status of this person was: missing in action - P I D
Length of service: *
Location: Pleiku Province II Corps.
Military grid coordinates of event: ZA189689

Additional information about this casualty:
On 2 June 1972 CPT Joe Eubanks was flying right seat with CW2 Bruce Delan as aircraft commander on an ARVN resupply run near Kontum. They came under heavy .51 cal fire that shot out all cyclic control. As they went in, Mr. Delan pulled in all the collective he had and made a hard landing that put the rotor through the windshield in Joe's lap. Joe had no visible injuries, but all attempts to release him failed due to the tangled wreckage and spreading fire. The crew chief and gunner had to drag Bruce away before the A/C exploded. He still suffered burns on his hands and face. CPT Eubanks burned to death in the wreckage and CW2 Delan was medevaced home with burns and a back compression. He later returned to duty stateside and is now flying choppers in Australia (address Unknown). Submitted by Thomas C. Schalk on 25 Feb 1989.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 11:45 PM (eYD0A)

377
375 Hi AmericanKestral! Hi Ladyl! Smooches, Insom!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:44 PM (PkVlr)

{{{Horde hug}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 11:45 PM (TdMsT)

378 ..I accidentally typed axe instead of ace trying to get here tonight. And I discovered that there are two venues for axe-throwing within 30 minutes of me. Which I would never have guessed.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (I99aF)

***

Anywhere you happen to be is a venue for axe throwing when you have an axe, is how I see it. Not that anyone axed me.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 26, 2020 11:42 PM (t+qrx)

*waves hands while gagging through sudden, noxious fog in the ONT*

The FVUK ya doin, sprayin' all that smells like AXE ASS funk all up in heah!?

/snrk

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 26, 2020 11:47 PM (QzJWU)

379 377
375 Hi AmericanKestral! Hi Ladyl! Smooches, Insom!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:44 PM (PkVlr)

{{{Horde hug}}}
-----

Mmmmmm, that's what I was hoping for

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:47 PM (IDhUW)

380 Being on the water at night can be glorious; it can be terrifying - depending on how many people are on the water in the same area at that time, how drunk they are, and if they are driving 20,000 tons of freighter.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at January 26, 2020 11:47 PM (jWElI)

381 I actually like Axe body spray AND ax throwing

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:49 PM (IDhUW)

382 >>Where are the freighters? Where are the other boats and are their drivers lit as f*ck?

>>Because on the Detroit River you have to deal with both, and south of Ecorse all of the channels and shallows and islands. If you have a cruiser and are not moored (or aren't one of the fishermen*) then getting out of the channel, dropping anchor, and spending a night like that is pretty darn good.

Yea, coastal and inland stuff can be harder. It's funny that we at least pretend to license vehicle drivers but anyone with a checkbook can operate a boat and the commercial stuff can be a pain.

But once you get offshore most of that crap goes away and you are closer to God than I have ever found on earth.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2020 11:49 PM (ZLI7S)

383
'Yevgeny Vindman (Alexander Vindman's brother) is
in charge of reviewing NSC officials' publications', to
paraphrase. Hmmm.
Posted by: gdgm+ at January 26, 2020 11:41 PM (ExnWy)

just another coincidence.

Posted by: Leroy Jethro Gibbs at January 26, 2020 11:49 PM (sy5kK)

384 I was on a jet ski at night on Apple Valley Lake, which is terrible over-boated. The jet ski dropped the rudder pin, and until I was rescued, I came close to being hit by by about 10 motor boats.
Posted by: Ladyl at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (TdMsT)

That would suck. We had jet skies when I had a boat on Lake Erie, but we never took them out at night.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 11:49 PM (Rz2Nc)

385 375 Hi AmericanKestral! Hi Ladyl! Smooches, Insom!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 26, 2020 11:44 PM (PkVlr)

I do like me some smooches!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 26, 2020 11:49 PM (NWiLs)

386 380 Being on the water at night can be glorious; it can be terrifying - depending on how many people are on the water in the same area at that time, how drunk they are, and if they are driving 20,000 tons of freighter.
----
This is also true lol

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:49 PM (IDhUW)

387 Roddenberry got woke as fuck the older he got. He would be down with "Star Trans: The Next 50 Genders". But he was always an incurable optimist when it came to Starfleet and the Federation. Zombie Roddenberry would choke the shit out of the Picard writers for what they've done to both.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 26, 2020 11:50 PM (I99aF)

388 Gotta disagree with you on that one. Some of the best times of my life have been on the water bed in the middle of the night.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2020 11:21 PM (ZLI7S)

fify

Posted by: REDACTED at January 26, 2020 11:51 PM (rpxSz)

389 I don't know, night time on a boat can be scary. Every time I'm on a cruise ship all I see is frigging blackness all around and thank god I'm not the one having to navigate that shit. lol.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 26, 2020 11:51 PM (9Om/r)

390 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2020 11:45 PM (eYD0A)

Here is good!

Posted by: Political Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 11:52 PM (BiNEL)

391 They've been known to be wrong about Trump leak before. Pretty much every single time.

Posted by: JackStraw

Bolton's spokes people already saying that the manuscript submitted for approval never said any such thing - so, yeah, its false of course.

Posted by: Boswell at January 26, 2020 11:52 PM (32YRo)

392 I accidentally typed axe instead of ace trying to get here tonight. And I discovered that there are two venues for axe-throwing within 30 minutes of me. Which I would never have guessed.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (I99aF)

You're free to throw an axe of shoot a gun outside my door at either of my houses.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 11:52 PM (Rz2Nc)

393 Anybody wanna hazard a guess at ggreg's yap swab results?

Goat tadpoles?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at January 26, 2020 11:52 PM (xkSJa)

394 >>> Absolutely, being on the water at night is awesome.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42

Until you get stopped by the Sheriff for breaking the 30 mph speed limit. Then, not so much.

Posted by: 6to4to3 at January 26, 2020 11:53 PM (ilTjN)

395 380 Being on the water at night can be glorious; it can be terrifying - depending on how many people are on the water in the same area at that time, how drunk they are, and if they are driving 20,000 tons of freighter.

Drinking and boat driving at night.

It's fun, until it's not. Believe me.

Posted by: - Joseph Hazelwood, captain, Exxon Valdez at January 26, 2020 11:54 PM (sy5kK)

396 100 years from now

humans will look upon our worship of sport heroes

with a deafening WTF

and they will still be playing chess

Posted by: REDACTED at January 26, 2020 11:54 PM (rpxSz)

397 just another coincidence.
Posted by: Leroy Jethro Gibbs at January 26, 2020 11:49 PM (sy5kK)

Nothing to see here comrade Yevgeny, move along!

Posted by: Political Commissar Hrothgar at January 26, 2020 11:55 PM (BiNEL)

398 Red Letter Media now have their review of Picard up
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 26, 2020 11:28 PM

Spoiler: They didn't like it

Posted by: Chuck C at January 26, 2020 11:55 PM (r6GXX)

399 391 They've been known to be wrong about Trump leak before. Pretty much every single time.

Posted by: JackStraw

this X infinity

Posted by: REDACTED at January 26, 2020 11:56 PM (rpxSz)

400
"Red Letter Media now have their review of Picard up"

Got it playing in the background now, they're really taking a torch to them shoving their woke anti-racists views in it and destroying Roddenberry's vision of Star Trek and the future.
Posted by: lowandslow

I saw a review on PJmedia that said it didn't have any of that stuff in it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2020 11:56 PM (aKsyK)

401 Juan Williams isn't necessarily wrong. The President is head of state as well as head of government. And personally, I'm convinced the reason he gives is why neither Reagan nor either of the Bushes did what Trump just did.

Maybe that was political cowardice masquerading as the better part of virtue.

That said, Williams is far from being right. What he misses is is that this isn't the 80s. It's not even the oughts. This is a country that hasn't been divided like this since the 1850s.

So the questions that need asking are "how did we get here?" and "who's responsible"

It ain't Trump.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at January 26, 2020 11:57 PM (xmKbk)

402 Anywhere you happen to be is a venue for axe throwing when you have an axe, is how I see it. Not that anyone axed me.
-----
Glad you weren't axed hogmartin.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 26, 2020 11:58 PM (IDhUW)

403 I'm afraid the left screwed the pooch on Sweatnik etal

The right is onto you

Posted by: REDACTED at January 26, 2020 11:58 PM (rpxSz)

404 ..I don't know, night time on a boat can be scary. Every time I'm on a cruise ship all I see is frigging blackness all around and thank god I'm not the one having to navigate that shit. lol.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 26, 2020 11:51 PM (9Om/r)

Triple-Redundant high-end GPS Chart Plotters. No less than three different radar systems/frequencies, covering long range, all the way down to millimeter-wavelength radar, which can pick out individual channel markers when entering port.

This plus FLIR (Forward Looking Infra Red) night-vision *and* Thermal Imaging, they can literally, see through night and fog.

Oh, and as a backup? There is a trend to resume to the Ship's Navigator taking Sun or Star sights, four times a day, in order to "confirm" the electronics.

Plus it keeps that Officer in touch with the manual system in case of the electronic systems failing.

They can literally dock the ships in pea-soup fog conditions.

It's just that no sane Harbormaster or Coast Guard Station will LET them.

As three recent deaths in the Galveston Ship Channel can attest, it's risky even for the Pros.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 26, 2020 11:58 PM (QzJWU)

405 376 Helicopter.

I hesitate to do this because, Wall-o-Text, but he was a friend, and if not here, then where?

*moment of silence, in respect*

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 26, 2020 11:58 PM (sy5kK)

406 Until you get stopped by the Sheriff for breaking the 30 mph speed limit. Then, not so much.
Posted by: 6to4to3 at January 26, 2020 11:53 PM (ilTjN)

Don't know where that happened,, I've had a boat on Lake Erie, and now on a 10 HP limit. Lake Erie was coast guard, now sheriff but they are busy on the high horse power lakes.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 26, 2020 11:58 PM (Rz2Nc)

407 Some people worship sports players (who just put a ball in a hoop) the same way others worship chess grand masters (all they do is move knock-knacks around a table) or fine artists (anyone can color a canvas). There are some people who have amazing talents at what they do, and others are willing to spend time and money to watch them do it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 26, 2020 11:58 PM (u/mzV)

408 Beckoning Chasm,
You've been on my prayer list for awhile so I'll continue to pray that things improve.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 26, 2020 11:59 PM (Lqy/e)

409 It's only a tiny man made bat cold, brah. Totally natural as this DNA sequenced graph explains.

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1580099294437.png

Posted by: just some sniffles, bro at January 27, 2020 12:00 AM (gwQ4h)

410
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 26, 2020 11:16 PM (13CQC)
* * * *

Prayers up for that better job!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient

=======

Thank you so much! Thank you thank you thank you. I'm going to try to earn your prayers.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 27, 2020 12:00 AM (13CQC)

411 373 Eddie Van Halen stole my main teen crush.
Posted by: Kazi at January 26, 2020 11:44 PM (0x00j)

You should have taken those guitar lessons seriously.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 12:01 AM (sy5kK)

412 I'm heading to bed, goodnight good people!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 27, 2020 12:02 AM (Rz2Nc)

413 412 I'm heading to bed, goodnight good people!
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 27, 2020 12:02 AM (Rz2Nc)

What about the rest of us? I feel slighted. Goodnight anyway!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 27, 2020 12:02 AM (NWiLs)

414
Bolton submitted his book manuscript to the NSA for
review of possible classified info. Some NSA stooge ran to the NYT and
reported that Bolton claims trump directed the funds be held until Z
investigated the Bidens. NYT runs with the story.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

This sounds like so much bullshit.
-Either Bolton/Publisher did this on purpose and leaked it
-or none of this is true
-or the part about Ukraine is not true
-or Bolton is just repeating what everyone else said

The timing stinks. And it seems just too perfect.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:03 AM (fjQ+v)

415 >>>Sean "Diddy" Combs called out the Grammy Awards for dissing rap and
RB stars in its major categories in a blazing speech that earned
him a standing ovation from Beyonce, Jay-Z and several other music
industry players.<<<

I'm still waiting to hear from Tupac and Biggie.

Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2020 12:03 AM (ATCV4)

416 "I saw a review on PJmedia that said it didn't have any of that stuff in it."

RedLetters guys say they just turned the Star Trek theme on its head and now the Federation is evil America and how they refused to rescue Romulans and robots because we're all racists and OrangeManBad.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 27, 2020 12:03 AM (4thlk)

417 What about the rest of us? I feel slighted. Goodnight anyway!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 27, 2020 12:02 AM (NWiLs)

Lmao, you're one of the best people!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 27, 2020 12:03 AM (Rz2Nc)

418 This sounds like so much bullshit.
-Either Bolton/Publisher did this on purpose and leaked it
-or none of this is true
-or the part about Ukraine is not true
-or Bolton is just repeating what everyone else said

The timing stinks. And it seems just too perfect.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:03 AM

The part of my brain that still likes Tom Clancy hopes this is an elaborate Canary Trap. The rest is not as hopeful.

Posted by: Chuck C at January 27, 2020 12:05 AM (r6GXX)

419

I have always done well navigating the little man in the boat at night...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 12:06 AM (QHOuo)

420 Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at January 27, 2020 12:03 AM (Rz2Nc)

Aw shucks, you're gonna make me blush...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 27, 2020 12:06 AM (NWiLs)

421 In a saner, more adult world, the Bolton false manuscript leak would never have made it to the pages of a top newspaper like the NYT given that no one had even tried to verify it with, you know, the guy who wrote it...but we don't live in those times and the NY Times isn't a newspaper any more, much less a top newspaper.

Posted by: Boswell at January 27, 2020 12:06 AM (32YRo)

422

My instincts tell me it's fake news.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:06 AM (fjQ+v)

423 Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 26, 2020 11:59 PM (Lqy/e)

Hugs for you. Do you have someone nearby who can help you with keeping the practical life stuff going while your mind and emotions are otherwise occupied for a while?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 27, 2020 12:07 AM (uquGJ)

424
Has Bolton said anything since?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:08 AM (fjQ+v)

425 So I just set my alarm with Alexa and asked her if Joe Biden what's going to be elected president hey she doesn't really know. L/OL

Posted by: Farmer at January 27, 2020 12:08 AM (6lDgd)

426 My instincts tell me it's fake news.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:06 AM (fjQ+v)

Because it's the Kavanaugh bullshit all over again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2020 12:08 AM (V2Yro)

427 >>>This sounds like so much bullshit.
-Either Bolton/Publisher did this on purpose and leaked it
-or none of this is true
-or the part about Ukraine is not true
-or Bolton is just repeating what everyone else said

See 391 - didn't happen - Bolton people say its false

Posted by: Boswell at January 27, 2020 12:09 AM (32YRo)

428
Isn't a known fact that the aid was withheld because the president wanted Ukraine
to show effort into cracking down on corruption? I mean, we know that. So if that's what Bolton said, just like everyone else said, who cares.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:10 AM (fjQ+v)

429 Night time at sea is a thing to remember. Never seen so many stars at once since then... the mid atlantic is very dark on a moonless night.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 27, 2020 12:11 AM (0OmEj)

430 Hi Horde, Wow, that was one speedy weekend. A part of me is really hoping that the whole Bolton thing is a sting operation, c'mon, Bolton is being hung out there as live bait, are the Dems crazy enough to take it? We'll see....I think Bolton hates the lunatic left more than he hates DJT, that is a fearsome hatred.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at January 27, 2020 12:11 AM (a4EWo)

431 Plus it keeps that Officer in touch with the manual system in case of the electronic systems failing.
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I was on the bridge of a Norwegian ship, where I had a nice conversation with the Captain. To my surprise mounted on the bulkhead at the back of the bridge was a largish pigeon-hole rack of signal flags. I asked the captain who was responsible for them. He assured that the Signal Officer was proficient.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2020 12:12 AM (plu6+)

432 I'm not saying this is what happened. And I certainly am not dissing any soldier/sailor who did die.
That said, one of the things the military will do if they don't want or can't admit to deaths in some area they're not supposed to be or where we don't folks to know we were there is if any of the guys inserted dies, they will be said later on that they died in a helo crash or some such. This might also be if they want to hide that soldiers and sailors did die during those missile strikes by Iran.
We now know that some guys were injured to the point of having brain damage. You don't get brain damage without some other part of your body taking damage also. So for that to be all that they sustained raises questions and now a helo goes tits up with also 30 some soldiers involved (and weren't the brain damaged ones also about 30?)
I'm thinking maybe Iran scored a hit on a barracks. A squad bay or two will hold about half a company which can be 60 men easily. ( the odd squid was probably their corpsman)
So maybe they hid that the strikes did hurt soldiers/sailors because they didn't want to be forced into a retaliatory strike at this time. I'm okay with that. I thought is was inconceivable that Iran could launch that many missiles and not hurt anybody at all.
Or it could be just a squad that got taken out being somewhere they weren't supposed to. Or it could be just a helo went down.
Either way, we'll probably never know for sure.
Don't anyone who doesn't know me get all twisted up cause ain't no way I've got a problem with any of this. Except maybe them having to lie at us. I wish they didn't have to do that. And they look bad getting caught out about the brain damaged guys. How's it going to look if they get caught about the helo going down.

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 12:13 AM (AsOgd)

433 Professor, why are there tadpoles on my slide?!?

Posted by: g g g g g greg at January 27, 2020 12:13 AM (H5knJ)

434
Bolton people say its false
Posted by: Boswell

Oh. Good.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:13 AM (fjQ+v)

435 Bolton not saying anything shows you how much of a dick he is

cash this check John, there will be no others

Posted by: REDACTED at January 27, 2020 12:14 AM (rpxSz)

436 371 I accidentally typed axe instead of ace trying to get here tonight. And I discovered that there are two venues for axe-throwing within 30 minutes of me. Which I would never have guessed.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 26, 2020 11:38 PM (I99aF)

Anywhere you happen to be is a venue for axe throwing when you have an axe, is how I see it. Not that anyone axed me.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 26, 2020 11:42 PM (t+qrx)
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There are 2 places in my neck of the woods, where you can do axe tossing.

Both serve alcohol.

Go ahead, supply your own punchline.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 12:14 AM (sy5kK)

437 been on lake michigan at night in the fog. fuck that. rather ride in a helicopter. or, a fucking yugo on the interstate.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:15 AM (KP5rU)

438 Has Bolton said anything since?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide

Bolton spokesperson already came out last hour or so and said its FALSE...so yeah, a lie by the NY Times - another day ending in Y

Posted by: Boswell at January 27, 2020 12:16 AM (32YRo)

439 the hard thing about the Helo thing being a cover up for missile strike deaths is that it's hard to pass off 2 week old bodies as freshly dead. (cue Marty Feldman)

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 27, 2020 12:16 AM (V2Yro)

440 Go ahead, supply your own punchline.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 12:14 AM (sy5kK)

there are myriad of places in which ace tosses

Posted by: REDACTED at January 27, 2020 12:17 AM (rpxSz)

441

Kobe's helo was shot down by a missile two weeks ago?

Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at January 27, 2020 12:17 AM (QHOuo)

442 If Juan Williams had made his idiot statement on Twitter, the correct response would have been: Now do Lincoln and slavery.

Posted by: Epobirs at January 27, 2020 12:18 AM (AJKgl)

443 does anybody besides people who are political nerds even have a clue who the fuck bolton is? i doubt it. they don't give a fuck either.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:19 AM (KP5rU)

444 Bolton is our ace in the hole

Posted by: Pox-ridden Whore at January 27, 2020 12:21 AM (nobLd)

445 I think Bolton is salivating at the chance to provide a new asshole for Adam Schiff!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at January 27, 2020 12:21 AM (a4EWo)

446 It's late at night and I'm tired so I'll just comment about Star Trek a bit here.

I wasn't born when the original series was up. I saw some of the movies but since I hadn't seen the series, many of the references flew by me. The first few seasons of the Next Generation, also, I didn't get to see at the time (and I'd heard they were bad, which they were). I started to perk up and take notice in the middle 1990s. Bits and pieces. Best Of Both Worlds, Yesterday's Enterprise, and that arc where the Klingons kick Worf out.

These were, of course, the best of the TNG episodes. Later I got the DVDs and figured out what the whole of Star Trek was supposed to be about. It wasn't even about that silly Roddenberry utopia.

Star Trek was about a future where decency and diplomacy could win against stupidity and evil. It was an Asimovian approach to the future - which I loved, because I loved Asimov's stories.

There's more I could say [I've deleted much of what I've typed here], but I will say I rewatched the 3-7 seasons of TNG a lot. I really wanted to believe that institutions like Starfleet and men like Picard existed, or could exist.

This 'Picard' series up now... it's ruined all that, in the name of Relevance and Current Year. Well when it makes everything about Current Year it's not thinking about future years. It's not thinking about people who might pick up on this later, like I picked up TNG in the 2000s.

'Picard' is not showing a vision of anything good (however we can debate whether Roddenberry's vision was good). It's just wearing the Captain's skin over something nihilistic and horrible.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 27, 2020 12:23 AM (ykYG2)

447 I don't trust that Bushie/GOPe Bolton.

Posted by: davidt at January 27, 2020 12:24 AM (l3+k2)

448 And the RLM guys are great.

Posted by: davidt at January 27, 2020 12:25 AM (l3+k2)

449 ..Either way, we'll probably never know for sure.

Don't anyone who doesn't know me get all twisted up cause ain't no way I've got a problem with any of this. Except maybe them having to lie at us. I wish they didn't have to do that. And they look bad getting caught out about the brain damaged guys. How's it going to look if they get caught about the helo going down.

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 12:13 AM (AsOgd)

"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended with a bodyguard of lies."

Winston Churchill.

***

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2020 12:25 AM (QzJWU)

450 bolton reminds me of some dipshit who couldn't cut it as member of elton john's concubine in the mid seventies. fuck him.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:26 AM (KP5rU)

451
I always had the impression John Bolton was a hardass and tough guy, but never thought of him as a spineless lefty or #Never.

That's why, when I heard this a day or two ago, I immediately thought of the guy with the mustache on Red Eye for years, and thought "nah".

Unlike Mittens, I don't see Bolton back stabbing anyone who is supposed to be on his side.

Guess we will see in the next few days.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 12:27 AM (sy5kK)

452
Picard was a shitty captain. Almost as bad as Janeway.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:29 AM (fjQ+v)

453 437 been on lake michigan at night in the fog. fuck that. rather ride in a helicopter. or, a fucking yugo on the interstate.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:15 AM (KP5rU)

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a fucking yugo on the interstate.

actually, that's fairly close.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 12:29 AM (sy5kK)

454 I don't see Bolton back stabbing anyone who is supposed to be on his side.

Guess we will see in the next few days.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
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I rather doubt that he is a Gordon Liddy, but maybe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2020 12:29 AM (plu6+)

455

Bolton story: The Never Trump/Destroy Trump obsessives are an incestuous circular daisy chain of buttfuckers who, when they aren't taking it up the butt from their few other fellow nutjobs, are talking or reading only what their fellow poop chuters are regurgitating. They literally are self reinforcing evolutionary dead ends that have less grounding in reality than most institutionalized schizos.

Posted by: joe at January 27, 2020 12:30 AM (QHOuo)

456 434
Bolton people say its false
Posted by: Boswell

Oh. Good.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:13 AM (fjQ+v)
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Bolton people aren't denying the Trump/Ukraine stuff, just covering their a&& about the leaking to the NYT.

This was perfect timing between Bolton/Dems/NYT/Wash Post. Bolton gets book sales boost, Dems get their hit on Trump and probably Bolton as a witness, NYT gets huge scoop, and Wash Post gets the Amazon cash from the book being listed tonight.

Meanwhile, Trump has a tweet.

Posted by: ggreg at January 27, 2020 12:30 AM (045k4)

457 Bolton story: The Never Trump/Destroy Trump obsessives are an incestuous circular daisy chain of buttfuckers who, when they aren't taking it up the butt from their few other fellow nutjobs, are talking or reading only what their fellow poop chuters are regurgitating. They literally are self reinforcing evolutionary dead ends that have less grounding in reality than most institutionalized schizos.
Posted by: joe
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Poetry.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2020 12:31 AM (plu6+)

458 455: well, yeah.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:31 AM (KP5rU)

459 428
Isn't a known fact that the aid was withheld because the president wanted Ukraine
to show effort into cracking down on corruption? I mean, we know that. So if that's what Bolton said, just like everyone else said, who cares.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:10 AM (fjQ+v)

exactly.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 12:31 AM (sy5kK)

460 For all my pontificating I still don't trust Bolton either, I am merely hopeful that he sees the left as more dangerous than Trump, perhaps he does not.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at January 27, 2020 12:32 AM (a4EWo)

461 Rockets hit US Embassy in Baghdad.

Posted by: rd at January 27, 2020 12:33 AM (+0uDE)

462 I can't stop posting about John Bolton because his g g g g g gay porn mustache is such a turn-on.

Posted by: g g g g g greg at January 27, 2020 12:33 AM (H5knJ)

463 Its not only gggggg gay, its ggggggggray.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at January 27, 2020 12:36 AM (a4EWo)

464 Rockets hit US Embassy in Baghdad.
Posted by: rd
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Conjecture: Salami did not fire them, cause, he ain't gonna study war no more.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2020 12:36 AM (plu6+)

465

IT'S IN THE FUCKING TRANSCRIPT WHAT THE PRESIDENT WANTED UKRAINE TO DO AND WHY HE WANTED THEM TO DO IT.

No one is denying this. Democrats and Fake News are simply lying about what we can all read with our very own eyes. This whole thing is Stupid.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:37 AM (fjQ+v)

466 This whole thing is Stupid.

Posted by: Soothsayer
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A principled press would never have given this a second glance.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2020 12:39 AM (plu6+)

467 when we were in the fog at night on michigan, my brother in law who owned the boat was a bit nervous. i asked him if it was time for the brown pants. he said it's a little late for that. never fucking again.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:39 AM (KP5rU)

468
What really frosts my cookies is that they have a TAPE OF BIDEN BRAGGING ABOUT DOING WHAT THEY WRONGLY ACCUSE TRUMP OF DOING.
G-d I hate the media
Delenda est Mediae

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 12:40 AM (AsOgd)

469 BEN ROETHELISBERGER AGREES WITH THIS STATEMENT!!!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at January 27, 2020 12:40 AM (a4EWo)

470

Unfortunately, many of them have money, from Granddaddy, or the .com bubble, or both.

This lets them impose their deep mental illness, blatant totalitarianism, and fucking endless pontificating on us through bestowing money on political whores, attention on media anal slurpers, and occasionally direct media control.

Posted by: joe at January 27, 2020 12:40 AM (QHOuo)

471 More on Baghdad Embassy attack

https://tinyurl.com/u993clq

I think this is related to the new US Israeli Peace Plan to be announced on Tuesday in Washington DC.

The Palestinians have already rejected any peace plan.

Iran wants to cause as much trouble as they can.

PDT can walk and chew gum at the same time. Expect Urban Renewal in Tehran, Impeachment Acquittal, new Mideast Peace Plan, and a few other victories this week.

Posted by: rd at January 27, 2020 12:41 AM (+0uDE)

472 media is still shitting kobe bryant bricks. apparently, he was the only one killed in that crash. fuck the media with cthulu's cock.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:43 AM (KP5rU)

473

Tehran Urban Renewal Plan.

Can I bid on this job? I'm fast, cheap and reliable...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 12:43 AM (QHOuo)

474 What you have to understand is that Kobe dribbled a ball, so he's super important. A national
treasure and shit.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 27, 2020 12:44 AM (H5knJ)

475 Was going sailing early in the morning on Long Island Sound.
New Haven. The bay was clear with a little cloud showing outside the breakwater. Light winds. Shoulda known.
I get out to the breakwater and on of those pea soupers Long Island get now and then came down and I could see shit past the bow of the boat.
I turned around and slunk back to the dock. My knees were knocking. That's a deep water vessel port and they also take in barges of oil, gasoline and natural gas and I could hear large vessel horns I got out of the ship channel as fast as i could with the light winds cause I wouldn't have seen them until they ran me over. Lesson luckily learned without damage. I still get the shivers when I think of that.

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 12:44 AM (AsOgd)

476 https://youtu.be/i-dnGSfmA9Y
At the appropriately named "BadAxe"

Posted by: Downcast at January 27, 2020 12:45 AM (1PYHw)

477 will kobe's funeral interfere with the mccain ongoing weeping tour?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:45 AM (KP5rU)

478
What really frosts my cookies is that they have a TAPE OF BIDEN BRAGGING ABOUT DOING WHAT THEY WRONGLY ACCUSE TRUMP OF DOING.
Posted by: jakee308

What's more, biden IMPLICATES obama!

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:48 AM (7MK/T)

479 who will be the eulogist at Kobe's funeral?? will it be a 'Wellstone' service? That didn't work out so well the last time.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at January 27, 2020 12:48 AM (a4EWo)

480
Some way, some how, the Left will tie either global warming or guns into kobe's death.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:49 AM (7MK/T)

481 At the appropriately named "BadAxe"
Posted by: Downcast
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My grandfather was born in Bad Axe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2020 12:49 AM (plu6+)

482 Really, can't Kobe's death be Trump's fault, that is all we want.

Posted by: DNC at January 27, 2020 12:51 AM (a4EWo)

483
'Picard' is not showing a vision of anything good (however we can debate whether Roddenberry's vision was good). It's just wearing the Captain's skin over something nihilistic and horrible.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 27, 2020 12:23 AM (ykYG2)

Great post.

I was 11 when TOS debuted, and watched it all.

To understand the original Trek, you must remember that VietNam was starting to get real sporty, and the generation gap was getting as deep and wide as the Grand Canyon.

Roddenberry's themes seem more understandable when you consider it against this background. Then, or now, nobody under 25 knows crap. But they can be idealistic.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 12:51 AM (sy5kK)

484 There's a Bad Axe in the mountains on Disc World!

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 12:51 AM (AsOgd)

485

I skipped past the Grammys on tv tonight and watched a couple minutes. Horrific.

A rapper, grabbing his genitals, rapping about the devil, joined by other rappers, with kobe bryant's pic on the huge tv monitor in the background.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:52 AM (7MK/T)

486
media is still shitting kobe bryant bricks. apparently, he was the only one killed in that crash. fuck the media with cthulu's cock.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

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It would suck to lose someone in a disaster that also killed a celebrity. All you would see everywhere is "WAAH WAAAH THE CELEBRITY DIED!!! HOW SHALL WE GO ON??... also killed was some guy who might have had a wife and little kids or whatevs."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 27, 2020 12:52 AM (13CQC)

487 485: a fitting tribute to a hero.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:53 AM (KP5rU)

488 Have they said who (besides the pilot) were the others that died?

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 12:53 AM (AsOgd)

489 Rocket attacks on the embassy in Baghdad - old annex (Republican Palace) and the new fortress, have been intermittent for ..... 15 years.

Don't know what the IRGC bosses of the "militias" are "thinking", but forget "Israeli peace plan" or anything else, they have had their own all-out struggle going on in Iraq for months. A major part of which is reducing US freedom of action and presence, with aim of eliminating that presence.

What's happening now would be going on and will continue, regardless of other regional events.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2020 12:54 AM (El6T/)

490 487 485: a fitting tribute to a hero.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

I love you man. No homo.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 12:55 AM (QHOuo)

491 I was at my brother in law's house when the kobe thing hit the TV. He said kobe bryant went high speed dirt in a helicopter. I looked at him and said yeah well fuck him anyway. The BIL shrugged and said yeah. Thats how I handled the news.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 27, 2020 12:56 AM (9Om/r)

492 I was pretty upset that Bolton seems ready to make statements that make Trump look bad.I always thought he was squared away and a patriot
Turns out he's another prick with a book contract.

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 12:56 AM (AsOgd)

493 488: a baseball coach from a university, his wife, and daughter. the pilot and two other nondescript humans. fucking media cocksuckers.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 12:57 AM (KP5rU)

494 Game over man, Game over!

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 12:57 AM (AsOgd)

495 I will say this, as a lifelong Boston Celtics basketball fan, I have the utmost respect for Kobe Bryant,he was a great player and competitor.Just think if we had drafted him instead of Antoine Walker, boggles the imagination.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at January 27, 2020 12:57 AM (a4EWo)

496

If only Kobe had played MLB, he'd be alive today... unless The Fates had it in for him, and he took a bean ball at home, bottom of the 9th, tied up... now THAT'S a mans way out!

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 12:59 AM (QHOuo)

497 491: berserker, my wife told me kobe bryant was killed in a helicopter crash. i said, meh, first world problem. i had to drive a fucking car to get anywhere. shit fucking happens.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 01:00 AM (KP5rU)

498 I am out of here, tomorrow is another day, love my Horde friends, RIP Kobe Bryant.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at January 27, 2020 01:01 AM (a4EWo)

499 later.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 27, 2020 01:02 AM (KP5rU)

500 Ladyl, if you haven't done so read Helena Handbasket's comment on the gun thread. It's near the beginning of the thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2020 01:02 AM (tEVlJ)

501 It would suck to lose someone in a disaster that also killed a celebrity. All you would see everywhere is "WAAH WAAAH THE CELEBRITY DIED!!! HOW SHALL WE GO ON??... also killed was some guy who might have had a wife and little kids or whatevs."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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See: John Roll, Gabby Giffords, and she *lived*.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2020 01:03 AM (plu6+)

502 Lucy is currently sitting on my lap with her back to me. If I start to move, I get claws.

If a cat did that to me, it would be flying without instruments.

Posted by: JT at January 27, 2020 01:03 AM (arJlL)

503 41 She also said,"Mom, there's some nasty bitches round here." LOL
Posted by: jmel at January 26, 2020 10:03 PM (OeWgo)
Mid 80's at the Univ. of S.Dakota, I went to a party at a place called "the house of the nasty bitches". I asked one of the ladies why it was called that. "Because we're nasty bitches!", she yelled, followed by lots of woohooing from all the ladies.

Posted by: Downcast at January 27, 2020 01:04 AM (1PYHw)

504 The things you learn in the late night.

Buttygig's father is from Malta and the definition of the name means- Father of the Chicken.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2020 01:05 AM (tEVlJ)

505

What does 'Buttplug' mean in Maltese?

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 01:08 AM (QHOuo)

506
A principled press would never have given this a second glance.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2020 12:39 AM (plu6+)

"A principled press"

Ha ha ha! Now that's funny!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:11 AM (sy5kK)

507 What does 'Buttplug' mean in Maltese?
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer
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'Otter Target'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 27, 2020 01:12 AM (plu6+)

508 ..What does 'Buttplug' mean in Maltese?

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 01:08 AM (QHOuo)

"Fucker of Chickens".

How could it be any other?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2020 01:13 AM (QzJWU)

509 True story,

Back in the early 80's (before ground avoidance tech and ultra fine weather/radar avionics) I flew in the back as medic for East Bay Regional Park Police's Hugh's 500 E class helos.
There were days that yas just did not fly...like fog or cloud ceilings below 1000...
Watched the vid of the impact site down the road from where I presently work and thought "shit man, IFR cert or not...the base clouds were covering the low lying hills for craps sake...what the hell were you thinking coming up Las Virge's in this soup. (For the record, this is the standard flight path for helos coming from the coast near Malibu or going out to the coast from the valley but the mountains and hills are very unforgiving to pilots not knowing just how quickly shitty it gets if you try and fudge your flight plan...the whole thing sucks if the pilot(s) were trying to impress the Mamba that they could deliver the team to Thousand Oaks on time......

Posted by: Nightwatch on the ramparts at January 27, 2020 01:14 AM (kFkpX)

510

On the downside, he ruined me for ordinary men.

On the upside, his bazillion dollars will pay for a real nice vagoplasty, with spare change for the pool boy.

Posted by: Kobe's Wife at January 27, 2020 01:18 AM (QHOuo)

511 Trump denies what apparently is supposed to be the "bombshell" from Bolton - that is, that he did a perfectly appropriate and legal thing, and used leverage to get a foreign state to help us out, in this case by re-opening and continuing investigations of shenanigans involving US officials and past US elections.

Apparently Bolton denies it, too.

But this doesn't stop the remarkably clueless usual suspects from beclowning themselves again - not talking Dems or ggerg here.

So what happens to a future president - or this president in his second term - when the situation calls for leaning on a foreign state to do something that involves an American political figure? Obviously Trump will be immune now - to almost anything - one of the funnier consequences of a ridiculous and frivolous impeachment attempt.

But while his team and some surrogates, almost in passing, have alluded to the key point that *even the alleged activity was perfectly appropriate and legal*, they've not given it equal billing with debunking the baseless, assumed fact pattern pushed by the idiots.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 27, 2020 01:19 AM (El6T/)

512 How many times have the ultra rich let hubris stand in the way of sane behavior. Seems like an old story. Sad that so many people went down unnecessarily. Fly when the weather gets better.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 27, 2020 01:21 AM (0OmEj)

513 As to the Juan Williams quote about Trump speaking at the RtL march, I'm of the firm opinion Trump was told by his advisors not to go, as probably all Republican presidents are told not to go: Too divisive! (Democrats do not have to be told not to go because.) They probably reiterated the line about dividing the half country on a hot-button issue. But after more than three years of bullshit investigations, Trump told them, 'I already alienate half the county; I'm going to speak! What have I got to lose?'

Posted by: RickZ at January 27, 2020 01:21 AM (Y8PSl)

514
See: John Roll, Gabby Giffords, and she *lived*.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

=======

Good lord.

Get a load of this story, too.

https://people.com/archive/a-rising-star-lives-to-shine-
again-after-a-near-fatal-knifing-vol-18-no-19/

You only have to read to the middle of the second sentence... "a passing deliveryman"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 27, 2020 01:23 AM (13CQC)

515 Bad Axe MI was the inspiration for "Pickax City" in the Lilian Jackson Braun "The Cat Who..." mysteries.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 27, 2020 01:24 AM (I99aF)

516 Didn't anyone pay attention to all the years Trump bantered and sometimes argued with the press before he became President and yet they never found anything to hang on him that could/would hurt him.
The man's life has been very open. More open than Michael Bloombergs or Bezos' lives are.
They really were blinded by their anger at Hillary losing and making them look bad.
They've thrown their lives away that they will never get them back.

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 01:26 AM (AsOgd)

517 510

WTF Troll.....his daughter went down with him ya classless fuck....eat glass and then suck hobo dick ...now fortified with coronavirus just arrived in L.A.

esputin vodka in your eyes

Posted by: Nightwatch on the ramparts at January 27, 2020 01:27 AM (kFkpX)

518 Fuck this.....

Posted by: Nightwatch on the ramparts at January 27, 2020 01:28 AM (kFkpX)

519 Every so called tragedy at it's base is someone being greedy.
The greed of being somewhere by a certain time has killed so many.
The greed of thinking you are smarter or better than everyone else who has failed or died doing what you're about to do.
All it takes is say "No. We'll wait until better conditions"

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 27, 2020 01:29 AM (AsOgd)

520 Juan Williams. I'm thinkin' IQ around 98.

Posted by: klaftern at January 27, 2020 01:30 AM (RuIsu)

521

Having done a considerable amount of (not aircraft, rather climbing and caving) accident analysis, the 'Done it the exact same way 99 times before, no problem' fallacy continues to amaze...

Posted by: Joe Blowme at January 27, 2020 01:31 AM (QHOuo)

522

Well, the Kitten of Mass Destruction has settled in for his pre-midnight nap before the 00:00 Reign of Chaos.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 01:37 AM (QHOuo)

523 517 510

WTF Troll..

exactly.

A lot of people liked the guy a lot, why say something like that?

Oh, I know.

You're a cucking funt.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:39 AM (sy5kK)

524 You're a cucking funt.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:39 AM (sy5kK)

Alan's porn producer brother.

Posted by: RickZ at January 27, 2020 01:41 AM (Y8PSl)

525 516 Didn't anyone pay attention to all the years Trump bantered and sometimes argued with the press before he became President and yet they never found anything to hang on him that could/would hurt him.
The man's life has been very open. More open than Michael Bloombergs or Bezos' lives are.
-----------

So true. Trump had to deal with New York construction unions and suppliers. And any alleged criminal organizations that may or may not have been funded with their actions when dealing with contractors.

He learned long, long ago to keep his nose, and everything else associated with him, clean.

Which is one more reason why the Left is so pissed, there is nothing bad for them to uncover.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:42 AM (sy5kK)

526

Bolton seemed so OK. What a great dissembler. Or he was got at. Anything seems possible these days.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 01:44 AM (c/0cj)

527 520 Juan Williams. I'm thinkin' IQ around 98.
Posted by: klaftern at January 27, 2020 01:30 AM (RuIsu)

That's much better than the vast majority of Somalians in Minnesota today.

Hey, I am trying to be positive here!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:44 AM (sy5kK)

528 ..Juan Williams. I'm thinkin' IQ around 98.

Posted by: klaftern at January 27, 2020 01:30 AM (RuIsu)

I'd guess about 108, actually.

The ten point difference given of course, to the calculation of the B.S./Graft correlation of Lying for Dollars and Playing the Fool in support thereof.

Dude ain't a fool. He just plays one on TeeVee.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2020 01:46 AM (QzJWU)

529

Bolton seemed so OK. What a great dissembler. Or he was got at. Anything seems possible these days.
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 01:44 AM (c/0cj)

All I say is let's just let this thing play out. My guess is that it will be gone within a week. Like everything else the last 3 years.

I don't see Bolton selling out Trump. Bolton is more a conservative than he is a Bushie.

Have faith.

At least until next Friday.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:48 AM (sy5kK)

530

The single worst group of objectively subhumans I have ever worked with has been Somalis. Haitians a close second. Upper middle class white whine moms a close third.

Actually suck oxygen, IQ points and sanity out of the atmosphere. While expelling irrational Orcish level hate, brutality and toxic stupidity.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 01:48 AM (c/0cj)

531 Nobody Knows I'm A Lesbian

Motto: If you can't join 'em, lick 'em.

**********
I'm trying to decide which Cuomo I despise the most.

"Make it a double!"

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2020 01:49 AM (Z4rgH)

532 You're a cucking funt.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:39 AM (sy5kK)

I'm not the troll, but it seems to me that the cause of Kobe's death, and that of all the others aboard, is that he was a wealthy celebrity. Ordinary people, if they want to take their child to a sportsball game a hundred miles distant, would get up early, hop in the car, and be on the road about 3 hours before game time.

But a wealthy celebrity says, "Hah. I am above all that. I will charter a chopper, and take my kids and her friends and her friends' parents, and we will take off 40 minutes before game time, and get there in plenty of time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 01:49 AM (LxWV7)

533 Dude ain't a fool. He just plays one on TeeVee.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2020 01:46 AM (QzJWU)

Yep.

When NPR fired him for political expediency, after years of service, Roger Ailes immediately gave him a 2 year contract for a million a year. And that contract has renewed for many more years.

I don't agree with him, but stupid people don't get million dollar contracts to explain their ideas.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:52 AM (sy5kK)

534

Point taken AOP.

7 unique and valuable, at least not evil by accounts, people died flying a helicopter to a Junior High Girls Basketball game.

Someone exercised poor judgement. Probably at least 2... the pilot and perhaps Kobe.

Sometimes we talk about the Banality of Evil.

Perhaps the Banality of Complacence deserves more discussion.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 01:53 AM (dRfXw)

535
But a wealthy celebrity says, "Hah. I am above all that. I will charter a chopper, and take my kids and her friends and her friends' parents, and we will take off 40 minutes before game time, and get there in plenty of time.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 01:49 AM (LxWV7)

Unusually heavy fog, many locals have reported.

The original rules are always in play.

"Never, ever, fool with Mother Nature".

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:55 AM (sy5kK)

536
I'm not the troll,

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 01:49 AM (LxWV7)

Pretty much the opposite. You may not consider yourself a wise man, but you would be wrong.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 01:58 AM (sy5kK)

537

I'm trying to make a joke about AOP being a trill, and come up empty.

Dude I've been here since 2007. Respect your thoughts since whenever.

Fuckit. Sippin shots all around.

*Pours bottle of Redbreast 21 into USB*

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 02:00 AM (c/0cj)

538 ..Perhaps the Banality of ~~Complacence~~ Celebrity Privilege deserves more discussion.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 01:53 AM (dRfXw)

Fuck that "white privilege" bullshit. It's all about DOLLAR privilege.

And Kobe spent his very last dollar, today.

Sad, that is Pilot spent his very last dollar of professionally sucking up to celebrity privilege.

And the other passengers cashed-in their "proximity to" tickets, as well.

You all wonder why Ace doesn't wanna be a "celebrity?"

It's because a Sikorsky S-76 has a lousy shelving system.

That's why.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2020 02:01 AM (QzJWU)

539 It's because a Sikorsky S-76 has a lousy shelving system.

But a hellava mobile bar.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 02:03 AM (c/0cj)

540 please accept my apols' for harshing the thread with anger and gutter speak...we here, are usually on a much higher plane of thought and inter-vocalization in the typed wordence of having fun and es cuing verbiage of potential land mines of thought to be exploded on the next unsuspecting poster....it is a thread after all...how we thread this is all about knowing how to knit...(Knights of KA-nit???).....sorry, old joking....very old

.....(he did not say that).....(yes he did)

Posted by: Nightwatch on the ramparts at January 27, 2020 02:03 AM (kFkpX)

541 537

I'm trying to make a joke about AOP being a trill, and come up empty.
--------------

Is a trill a gay troll?

A neutered troll?

Or one of those 47 newly identified genders?

It's late, and I am drinking cheap wine. Actually, it was a try at a new label, and it wasn't cheap, it only tastes cheap.

Can't win them all.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 02:03 AM (sy5kK)

542 I watched 'Life, Liberty and Levin' last night. Peter Sweitzer was on, author of 'Profiles in Corruption'. The Bidens are thoroughly corrupt, the whole damned family, brothers, children, son-in-law. But there was an interesting tidbit about 'Lunch Pail' Joe riding Amtrak to work.

It seems its true Biden commuted to DC from Delaware on Amtrak. It's also clear there was Biden corruption when it came to Amtrak. But the best bit about ol' Choo Choo was if Biden was running late for his regularly scheduled train, he'd call some number (probably only he had) and get the regularly scheduled train to wait for his arrival. As if all those other passengers on that train didn't have places to be and people to meet. Didn't matter, they had to wait because Gropin' Joe had to get to DC and he was running behind schedule. Now the regularly scheduled train could run behind schedule, too.

Joe has been oh so impo'tent from the get-go. One of our political mandarins deserving of a guillotine haircut.

Posted by: RickZ at January 27, 2020 02:05 AM (Y8PSl)

543

Nightwatch every single one of us currently here has drunk posted at midnight, LOL.

*fistbump*

Flight Medics get my deepest respect!

On your next flight into the firebase, can ya brink a few things in for me? wink wink

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 02:06 AM (c/0cj)

544 Nightwatch.

You're not yet drunk enough, mate.

*pours both of us four fingers of bourbon in large rocks glasses*

I'm tryin' to fookin' HELP here, ok? Play along and drink!

/sips

/repeatedly

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2020 02:08 AM (QzJWU)

545

A Trill is an uber masculine non-troll, with tendencies towards using raw crude or Sikorsky hydraulic fluid for lube...

LCD, what ya drinking so we can avoid it?

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 02:08 AM (c/0cj)

546 Somebody is shooting off fireworks rockets nearby to me.

Woooosh! Bang!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 02:09 AM (LxWV7)

547 You all wonder why Ace doesn't wanna be a "celebrity?"

It's because a Sikorsky S-76 has a lousy shelving system.

That's why.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

They don't call this place a "Smart Military Blog" for nothing.

Knowing where Ace lives, if I was him, I would be afraid that I would say something in public that is truthful and get called out for it.

Seattle is similar, but they mostly just shut down and a few glare at you. Just not the same thing. They can get nasty where Ace abodes.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 02:09 AM (sy5kK)

548 "The National Interest" has a picture of photovoltaic panels, in their article about the bankruptcy of a unique thermal solar power plant. Do you think they know the difference? I make fun of the idiots on the left for their climate change anti-science. I have to cringe when the right does something similar.

Posted by: Chris M at January 27, 2020 02:11 AM (6XZdO)

549 A Trill is an uber masculine non-troll, with tendencies towards using raw crude or Sikorsky hydraulic fluid for lube...

LCD, what ya drinking so we can avoid it?
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 02:08 AM (c/0cj)

A trill is what the caged bird sings with a fearful one of, according to Maya Angelou. But what does she know?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 02:11 AM (LxWV7)

550 Is a trill a gay troll?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 02:03 AM (sy5kK)

A trill is an alien species on Star Trek: Deep Space 9.

Posted by: RickZ at January 27, 2020 02:12 AM (Y8PSl)

551 "The National Interest" has a picture of photovoltaic panels, in their article about the bankruptcy of a unique thermal solar power plant. Do you think they know the difference? I make fun of the idiots on the left for their climate change anti-science. I have to cringe when the right does something similar.

Posted by: Chris M at January 27, 2020 02:11 AM (6XZdO)

Probably a stock photo. But solar PV plants go bankrupt too, when the subsidies dry up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 02:14 AM (LxWV7)

552 ..A trill is what the caged bird sings with a fearful one of, according to Maya Angelou. But what does she know?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 02:11 AM (LxWV7)d

Best cooked in a Broached Fryer at 375 degrees for 12 minutes, in Peanut Oil.

Short of eleven herbs and spices, it's the best I could come up with on short notice.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2020 02:14 AM (QzJWU)

553 Probably a stock photo. But solar PV plants go bankrupt too, when the subsidies dry up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 02:14 AM (LxWV7)

Who knew Federal cash could generate so much electricity?

Posted by: RickZ at January 27, 2020 02:15 AM (Y8PSl)

554 It is the one unbreakable rule in litigation. You can insult the defendant or the opposing attorney and, on occasion, you might even insult the judge. But the one thing you can never do is insult the jury.

Posted by: SMOD at January 27, 2020 02:16 AM (X5CsJ)

555 ..Who knew Federal cash could generate so much electricity?

Posted by: RickZ at January 27, 2020 02:15 AM (Y8PSl)

Federal Cash works best under the cover of darkness.

And now you know why Federally Subsidized Solar installations generate so much Dark Money.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2020 02:19 AM (QzJWU)

556
LCD, what ya drinking so we can avoid it?
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 27, 2020 02:08 AM (c/0cj)

I like to try low cost reds, because my wallet can't afford expensive reds. I know the difference. It wasn't always the case.

The brand is Hedgeline, Cabernet sauvignon. I bought it at Costco, it was about ten bucks, and it said it used Washington grapes, but was vinted and bottled in Cali.

I am proud of my state's wine industry, and it is growing constantly. I like finding values in red wine at lower price points, like ten bucks, that taste well against twenty buck wines. There are lots of them that come out locally, that don't get distributed nationally because they are too small.

This one tastes like a five buck wine. At 7-11.

But it's not corked, and 13.5% alc by volume. So I persevere.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 02:22 AM (sy5kK)

557 555 ..Who knew Federal cash could generate so much electricity?

Posted by: RickZ at January 27, 2020 02:15 AM (Y8PSl)

Federal Cash works best under the cover of darkness.

Or in a C-130, flying in the darkness of night, to Iran.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 02:30 AM (sy5kK)

558 #509
In 1978 and 1979 I went to school at a place called Mountainview on Lost Hills Road. On a clear day we had the mountains from the MASH intro in view and the 20th Century Ranch in hiking distance.
I can remember days so foggy on the ground we would be late for our first class because the traffic had to crawl along.

Posted by: Epobirs at January 27, 2020 02:31 AM (AJKgl)

559 But a wealthy celebrity says, "Hah. I am above all that. I will charter a chopper, and take my kids and her friends and her friends' parents, and we will take off 40 minutes before game time, and get there in plenty of time.

This is often true.

It is also true that everyday, ordinary people try to drive through fog and sandstorms and end up in 30 car pile ups ... often fatally so ...

Posted by: Adriane the Logistics Critic ... at January 27, 2020 02:31 AM (LPnfS)

560 Well, doggie is definitely getting better. She came up the step into the kitchen today, several times, and a few minutes ago, I gave an empty ice cream cup to lick out. She finished that, and then hopped up on my bed. which is 18" above floor level. First time in over a week she has managed to do that.

Anyhow, now I have to throw her off, and go to bed myself. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 02:31 AM (LxWV7)

561 AOP.

Give Doggie an electric heating pad.

Thank me later.

/hasta la nite nite Horde!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2020 02:34 AM (QzJWU)

562 Well kitty is going between heating pad & cold floor. She's not eating worth a damn. Going to try goat milk in about an hour.

Posted by: Adriane the Logistics Critic ... at January 27, 2020 02:36 AM (LPnfS)

563 560 Well, doggie is definitely getting better. She came up the step into the kitchen today, several times, and a few minutes ago, I gave an empty ice cream cup to lick out. She finished that, and then hopped up on my bed. which is 18" above floor level. First time in over a week she has managed to do that.

Anyhow, now I have to throw her off, and go to bed myself. Night, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2020 02:31 AM (LxWV7)

good news!

we need more of that.

nite, AOP.

and nite, Jim.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 27, 2020 02:37 AM (sy5kK)

564 Whatever Mr Bryant's thoughts may have been, I do not see anything in his death but tragedy, if not for him then certainly for his daughter or the other people on the helicopter.

I remember someone talking about the problem with flying cars: catastrophic failure. If your car breaks down mid trip, most likely you are going to be able to pull off the road, and if you are careful, you will be able to exit, unharmed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at January 27, 2020 02:39 AM (oXJmp)

565 Hem somehow faults for changed to thoughts. LOVE this phone keyboard.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at January 27, 2020 02:42 AM (oXJmp)

566 543 544

to be tech true,
The S-76 is a very much desired and historically acknowledged air frame that has a proven track record in it's many revisions since 1976. Kobe's craft(recent version) had a flawless record with regular maintenance and total pro pilots...cuz Kobe after all...
The mystery that has to be resolved is why a craft with top drawer avionics(ground avoidance+) and 2 pilots(IFR Certed?) flying in (now here is the 64 dollar question) total soup up the transition from the coast in Las Verg's canyon, slam into a hillside less than 8 miles from their destination?

Posted by: Nightwatch on the ramparts at January 27, 2020 02:49 AM (kFkpX)

567 RIP 6 other unpeople

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 27, 2020 02:49 AM (4X5xS)

568 567

true that.. other families and their absolute anguish...not a story cuz ....Kobe

Posted by: Nightwatch on the ramparts at January 27, 2020 02:54 AM (kFkpX)

569 There was a ground report of a "sputtering" engine. Probably the transmission, but the pilots may not have been able to see a suitable landing spot because of the fog or maybe there simply wasn't one.

Plus or minus a few minutes in the flight plan, and there may have been a flat spot available.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2020 03:01 AM (hQm0x)

570 Apparently, an Instruments Only rating is somewhat overvalued.

Useful in a surprise situation, it is no substitute for good judgement before taking off.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2020 03:06 AM (Z4rgH)

571 569

I had a good look at the crash site from above.

Had a major engine problem occurred at less than 800 ft, the left seat pilot may have attempted a (left 180 degree turn) to acquire a possible emergency landing site but ended up with the up slope of the hill full in his face.. pulling pitch and back cyclic at the same time, (and right rudder I assume) the craft impacted tail down at speed and forward speed carried the craft up slope as the main rotor bit into the hillside and pirouetted the craft across the slope and then downward as the main rotor disintegrated rupturing the fuel tanks and causing fire to erupt in the main fuselage as it tumbled down slope til it lodged in heavy brush and continued to burn.

I'm guessing for sure.....

Posted by: Nightwatch on the ramparts at January 27, 2020 03:28 AM (kFkpX)

572 Got to be gone in 1 hour

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2020 03:51 AM (ZCEU2)

573 45 min for me. Another manic Monday.

Posted by: My life is insanity at January 27, 2020 04:00 AM (aJnRB)

574 Good Morning Morons today is Monday, January 27, 2020. On this date in 1973 at the Paris Peace Accords the Vietnam War war was officially ended. However I can testify that we continued making bombing runs as the Kong and the North continued the war.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:08 AM (mpXpK)

575 It looks like the Kobe Brown helicopter crash was caused by bad weather conditions and it should not have been flying in the first place. The LAPD had already grounded all their helicopters.

https://tinyurl.com/um284hr

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:09 AM (mpXpK)

576 New cases of the Chinese corona virus continue to show up in the US as we continue to allow travel back and forth to the affected area in China.

https://tinyurl.com/sjpyosh

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:09 AM (mpXpK)

577 The use of surgical masks to prevent the spread of the corona virus is being widely disputed.

https://tinyurl.com/sw7sb4w

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:09 AM (mpXpK)

578 Well a bar I used to go long ago made national news yesterday.

https://tinyurl.com/v5qu3xf

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:10 AM (mpXpK)

579 DIABLO Romney is making signals that he will stab Republicans and Trump in the back........again.

https://tinyurl.com/t3xjlrb

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:10 AM (mpXpK)

580 Ramirez (repeat)

https://tinyurl.com/sypx3sp

And that's it for today. Still slow news

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:10 AM (mpXpK)

581 Not only drinks served there

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2020 04:21 AM (ZCEU2)

582 Not only drinks served there
Posted by: Skip

They got both kinds of music-country AND western

Posted by: Miklos' Country Bunker at January 27, 2020 04:25 AM (QzkSJ)

583 Lunch packed and quick bowl of instant oatmeal, 1 cup now 1 for the road. Sucky thing is will miss a couple hours of the President's team.

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2020 04:28 AM (ZCEU2)

584 Vic i don't think Mint Rawmoney will vote against PDT. If he does, it confirms that his son is neck deep in Ukraine. I have heard rumors of that.

Posted by: clutch at January 27, 2020 04:32 AM (9UmRs)

585 I wont go there but see Patterico is reporting NYT is saying new book by the Stash that definitely aid was tied to Biden getting investigated.
Except that investigation never happened, aid was started back up not long after the phone call that clearly was about 2016.

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2020 04:35 AM (ZCEU2)

586 We have maybe 2 more days to see what Jay and team come up with before Mittens is voting to prolong this.

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2020 04:37 AM (ZCEU2)

587 581
Not only drinks served there

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2020 04:21 AM (ZCEU2)

The guy who used to own that bar was a neighbor of mine but he sold it. The new owners turned into a music venue bar which of course attracted under age kids and a bad crowd. One of the people killed in that shoot up was a 17 year old kid. I suspect that the law dogs are going to be asking what a 17 year old kid was doing in there to begin with.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:37 AM (mpXpK)

588 585
I wont go there but see Patterico is reporting NYT is saying new book by
the Stash that definitely aid was tied to Biden getting investigated.

Except that investigation never happened, aid was started back up not long after the phone call that clearly was about 2016.

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2020 04:35 AM (ZCEU2)

I don't trust the NYT on anything anymore.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:39 AM (mpXpK)

589 Heading out.

Stay safe, all

Posted by: My life is insanity at January 27, 2020 04:46 AM (aJnRB)

590 Reports are the Democrats only witness they want is the Stash because he will say its his opinion it was prid quo pro. Still think the President's team will open the worm cans just enough to persuade enough that no more witnesses are needed.

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2020 04:47 AM (ZCEU2)

591 Me too, will pass MLii in a couple miles.
Have fun without me today

Posted by: Skip at January 27, 2020 04:48 AM (ZCEU2)

592 It doesn't matter if the communists acquire 3 or 4 DIABLOs to vote with them. They still need 67 votes which they do not have.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:49 AM (mpXpK)

593 Vic, I know they need 67 votes to impeach. But not sure how many votes needed if they vote on whether to call witnesses. Maybe only simple majority.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at January 27, 2020 04:53 AM (Dhht7)

594 And Good morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at January 27, 2020 04:54 AM (Dhht7)

595 593
Vic, I know they need 67 votes to impeach. But not sure how many votes
needed if they vote on whether to call witnesses. Maybe only simple
majority.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at January 27, 2020 04:53 AM (Dhht7)

That's right, simple majority for the "rules" but I thought that was already settled. They got enough DIABLOs to call witnesses and prevent the republicans for simply killing the whole thing.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 05:01 AM (mpXpK)

596 I think they vote after the defense is finished to determine more witnesses. I'm hoping Schitt and Nadless pissed the DIABLOs off enough that they won't vote for witnesses.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at January 27, 2020 05:06 AM (Dhht7)

597 The communists want to drag this shit out as long as they can even though it is hurting them politically. That is why they want witnesses. They want a Kavanaugh style circus.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 05:11 AM (mpXpK)

598 what is DIABLO

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 27, 2020 05:11 AM (iTXRQ)

599 456 434
Bolton people say its false
Posted by: Boswell

Oh. Good.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 27, 2020 12:13 AM (fjQ+v)
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Bolton people aren't denying the Trump/Ukraine stuff, just covering their a&& about the leaking to the NYT.

This was perfect timing between Bolton/Dems/NYT/Wash Post. Bolton gets book sales boost, Dems get their hit on Trump and probably Bolton as a witness, NYT gets huge scoop, and Wash Post gets the Amazon cash from the book being listed tonight.

Meanwhile, Trump has a tweet.
Posted by: ggreg at January 27, 2020 12:30 AM (045k4)

C'mon, guys, links?

Posted by: m at January 27, 2020 05:13 AM (Ne1i4)

600 598
what is DIABLO

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 27, 2020 05:11 AM (iTXRQ)

Democrat In All But Label Only

Under my ratings any Republican with a CR rating less than 90 is a RINO, under 50 and they are a DIABLO. This is except for specail circumstances like Romney, he hasn't been there long enough to get a rating but he is widely know to be a back stabbing shit.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 05:15 AM (mpXpK)

601 what is DIABLO

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 27, 2020 05:11 AM (iTXRQ)

Democrat In All But Label Only.

Posted by: RickZ at January 27, 2020 05:15 AM (Y8PSl)

602 okay now I get it
thanks guys

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 27, 2020 05:17 AM (iTXRQ)

603 It is already warming up outside now. That means it is about to give us some more rain.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 05:19 AM (mpXpK)

604 weak-kneed so-called Republicans who really just wanna be permanent Senators- so they are perfectly willing to go along just to get along

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 27, 2020 05:19 AM (iTXRQ)

605 It's really quite surreal that the Boomer generation, that is characterized by everybody getting zooted on drugs and banging everything within reach like jackrabbits, are now forming moral majority inquisition boards tasked with overseeing college students' sexual liaisons.

Free love for me, but not for me.

I question what the Columbia marine's real crime was when he refused to bang a drunk whore in the minds of Columbia officials.

Was it:

A) He disrespected an empowered woman's right to be "f*cked and f*cked right this very moment" by questioning her sobriety, and thus imposing his male patriarchy by withholding penis

B) Being an actual testosterone-laden male that verbally expressed an interest in banging her at a later time, TBD, when she was sober

C) Making the board long for the days when they themselves used to act like reprobates and f*ck everything that moved, and upsetting themwith the fact that an able-bodied male was cutting in on their action of banging students themselves

or, more likely, was it

D) He violated unknown, unwritten, unspecified conduct codes that exist only in the minds of Ivy League elitists that are just like any other communist regime, setting rules that are to be determined on a case by case basis, regardless of fairness or legality, to demonstrate their power over every aspect of any given individuals rights and dealings, no matter how personal the matter

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 27, 2020 05:42 AM (C2rVF)

606 Given the recent court cases of men banging drunk women it is not safe to get "consent" from a drinking women any longer.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 05:45 AM (mpXpK)

607 In Sportscar racing news: The Wayne Taylor Racing Cadillac won overall at this past weekends 24 Hours of Daytona.

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:-)

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 27, 2020 05:53 AM (Nz//4)

608 The transforming power of praise-

Unless our hearts are stirred by the divine grace to something more than a semblance of love and gratitude and praise, you and I cannot get into the walks and words of this trying life and live safely, walk wisely, or work successfully for God. With that power of praise in us, we may be the most practical of human beings and the most useful in all our walks of life.. It makes a man a better husband, a woman a better wife and children better children to know what it is to praise continually. The man who rejoices much walks most safely. He works most vigorously when his soul is filled with the Holy Spirit, when his whole being is consecrated to the living God. That man or woman has been given to them the wisdom to know and the power to do in a divinely practical way all the duties of life God grants us.

Dr. Henry Foster

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2020 05:55 AM (WI7YS)

609 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:00 AM (tT0V4)

610 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 27, 2020 06:01 AM (arJlL)

611 605 I question what the Columbia marine's real crime was

A) He disrespected an empowered woman's right
B) Being an actual testosterone-laden male that verbally expressed an interest
C) Making the board long for the days
D) He violated unknown, unwritten, unspecified conduct codes
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 27, 2020 05:42 AM (C2rVF)

Pretty sure it's Being Male While Believe All Women.

Posted by: m at January 27, 2020 06:12 AM (M5wRT)

612
Good morning, Hordians.

Let's get out there and enrage the lunatics by living a good life today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2020 06:17 AM (7rVsF)

613 Today's whiteboard sign:

President Trump's high crime and his misdemeanor?:

Winning a fair election.

End the sham-peachment!.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2020 06:17 AM (WI7YS)

614 Was there some kind of awards show last night?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:19 AM (tT0V4)

615 Was there some kind of awards show last night?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

It was a Sham-awards show.

Not enough POC, LGBYXYZ, people who only sing in the shower,....

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2020 06:21 AM (vd8XM)

616 614 Was there some kind of awards show last night?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

The Circus Freak Awards?

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 27, 2020 06:23 AM (Nz//4)

617 I think Columbia is the one who will wind up fu-ked. Ivy league stupid.

Posted by: Case at January 27, 2020 06:29 AM (GFT37)

618 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2020 06:30 AM (u82oZ)

619 612
Good morning, Hordians.

Let's get out there and enrage the lunatics by living a good life today.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2020 06:17 AM (7rVsF)

618 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2020 06:30 AM (u82oZ)

yay!

Posted by: m at January 27, 2020 06:31 AM (M5wRT)

620 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2020 06:31 AM (u82oZ)

621 FenelonSpoke

Thank you for the words from Dr. Foster. And I like your sign. Nothing but the truth.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2020 06:32 AM (u82oZ)

622 Top o' the morning. Don't know how I'm gonna survive without cofveve this morning. Cataract surgery in about an hour and a half. Hope it ain't agin the rules to suck on a piece of spearmint candy to get the juices flowing.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at January 27, 2020 06:33 AM (1uhZl)

623 m

My, you are bright eyed and bushy tailed this morning.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2020 06:34 AM (u82oZ)

624 Corona virus live updates

https://tinyurl.com/usg22ww

Some other moron posted this over the weekend. I've just tinyurl'd it.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 06:34 AM (XzVUd)

625 G'morning, Salty.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:34 AM (tT0V4)

626 622 Top o' the morning. Don't know how I'm gonna survive without cofveve this morning. Cataract surgery in about an hour and a half. Hope it ain't agin the rules to suck on a piece of spearmint candy to get the juices flowing.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at January 27, 2020 06:33 AM (1uhZl)

I got the same thing plus a cornea trans next month.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2020 06:35 AM (JFO2v)

627 Maybe a cigarette too. Cough...cough.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at January 27, 2020 06:35 AM (1uhZl)

628 Traveling Man&&&&

Best of luck with your surgery !

Posted by: JT at January 27, 2020 06:36 AM (arJlL)

629 Well darn. Hope it goes well.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at January 27, 2020 06:36 AM (1uhZl)

630 Epoch Times updates page.

https://tinyurl.com/uywp958

Includes latest official figures (agree with map previously posted).

Mentions that WHO will be flying in to Beijing today. I'm guessing the CCP won't release more figures until after that meeting.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 06:36 AM (XzVUd)

631 Enquiring Minds Want to Know

Less than 3% death rate and China is dong all that?

Does not compute.

Norman, coordinate!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2020 06:37 AM (u82oZ)

632 Traveling Man&&&&

Good luck. Don't pinch the nurses.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2020 06:38 AM (u82oZ)

633 Fresher update from upthread:

576
New cases of the Chinese corona virus continue to show up in the US as
we continue to allow travel back and forth to the affected area in
China.

https://tinyurl.com/sjpyosh

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 04:09 AM (mpXpK)

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 06:39 AM (mpXpK)

634 Less than 3% death rate and China is dong all that?

Does not compute.

They've even turned on the Bat Signal

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2020 06:39 AM (vd8XM)

635 631 Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2020 06:37 AM (u82oZ)

Latest is that it's much more contagious than SARS and it has a very long incubation period. Number of "recovered" is 1/2 the number dead. The 3% death rate is meaningless. It will probably be a couple of weeks before anything realistic is known. Perhaps the CCP is hiding everything ...

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 06:42 AM (XzVUd)

636 We had lunch with my SIL yesterday. She is a tech at the local hospital here in No Ill. She was talking with one of her nurses, who has friends at a hospital about 20 miles from here. They have a suspected coronavirus patient. The proper protocol wasn't done, and now they have told the employees that were exposed to stay home for 14 days....but how many of them will? How many have already passed it along to others?

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2020 06:43 AM (vd8XM)

637 633
Fresher update from upthread:

https://tinyurl.com/sjpyosh

====
Guidance from the CDC advises that people who have had casual contact
with the patient are at "minimal risk" for developing infection.
====

Thanks for letting us know we're all safe Vic.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 06:45 AM (XzVUd)

638
Perhaps the CCP is hiding everything ...

Commies hiding a catastrophe? Can such things be?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2020 06:46 AM (7rVsF)

639 635 Number of "recovered" is 1/2 the number dead.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 06:42 AM (XzVUd)

And the number of reported is "unknown."

Posted by: m at January 27, 2020 06:47 AM (M5wRT)

640 Commies hiding a catastrophe? Can such things be?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 27, 2020 06:46 AM (7rVsF)

They hid SARS for months but their competence at hide and seek appears to be slipping.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 06:47 AM (XzVUd)

641 What "divides the country"? Anything the Left doesn't like. Of course their actual mission in life, their raison d'etre, is to divide the country.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:48 AM (H8QX8)

642 And the number of reported is "unknown."

Posted by: m at January 27, 2020 06:47 AM (M5wRT)

You mean "unreported". Obviously we know the number *reported*.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 06:49 AM (XzVUd)

643 What "divides the country"? Anything the Left doesn't like. Of course their actual mission in life, their raison d'etre, is to divide the country.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

See? It's talk like that, that will divide this country!

...MSM Know it all...

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2020 06:49 AM (vd8XM)

644 Enquiring Minds Want to Know

Alrighty!

I'm going to party like its 2020.

And make sure my fields of fire are good. What I really need are interlocking crew-fed weapons and air support. The deer about should be getting nervous.

Have a great day, everyone. May there not be a cough around you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 27, 2020 06:50 AM (u82oZ)

645 All right. Have a nice day everyone. Don't play on the highway.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 06:50 AM (XzVUd)

646 I'm thinking of a trip to Wuhan. I hear the batatouille is to die for.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:51 AM (H8QX8)

647 So last night a large collection of folk who tend to travel frequently by air got together in close proximity to each other?

I hope they all wore masks, and did not come in contact with each others skin.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:52 AM (tT0V4)

648 Be safe, Salty.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:52 AM (tT0V4)

649 637 Thanks for letting us know we're all safe Vic.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 06:45 AM (XzVUd)

Personally I do not trust the CDC.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 06:54 AM (mpXpK)

650 I hope they all wore masks, and did not come in contact with each others skin.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Not to worry. With todays modern transportation systems, the amount of personal space you have will protect you from this newest disease.

...CDC...

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2020 06:54 AM (vd8XM)

651 I see the liberals are finally pulling their "Kavanaugh" tactic on the impeachment

"Anonymous" sources claim bolton's book confirms that Trump wanted the aid withheld until they did a complete investigation of biden.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 27, 2020 06:54 AM (JUOKG)

652 Personally I do not trust the CDC.
Posted by: Vic

I trust them like a wet fart

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2020 06:55 AM (vd8XM)

653 "Personally I do not trust the CDC."

Gotta go with Vic on this one.

Ever since they added 'and Prevention' to their name, my spidey senses have been tingling.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:55 AM (tT0V4)

654 This virus seems to have the stock market spooked, Dow futures down 400 already this morning.

Posted by: Molly k. at January 27, 2020 06:56 AM (Fp+UC)

655 Back during the Obama years when all that Ebola shit was going down and we had people coming from Africa where the outbreak was the CDC lied about it continuously.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 06:57 AM (mpXpK)

656 "Trump wanted the aid withheld until they did a complete investigation of biden.
"

So if we game this mental exercise out a bit...

If I WANT to rob a bank, but fail to take any preparation to rob it.
And ultimately do not make an effort to rob it, what crime am I guilty of?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:58 AM (tT0V4)

657 CDC lied about it continuously.
Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 06:57 AM (mpXpK)

Of course they did. They're a government agency. Lying is their job.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 06:59 AM (H8QX8)

658 Of course they did. They're a government agency. Lying is their job.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice

No it's not!!

...CDC...

Posted by: Bruce at January 27, 2020 07:00 AM (vd8XM)

659 Mayor of Wuhan say 5M people escaped before the lockdown.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7933405

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 07:00 AM (XzVUd)

660 Of course, I just realized that the 'Trump committed a crime!!!' folk are the same idiots who want to convict men of raping women by using just their eyes.

Never mind....

Carry on..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 07:00 AM (tT0V4)

661

WHY ARE THEY CALLED CHOPPERS?

...SIJORSKY singing the blues....

Posted by: saf at January 27, 2020 07:01 AM (5IHGB)

662 Personally I do not trust the CDC.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 06:54 AM (mpXpK)

So you trust Fox ?I don't think the CDC knows much in this case. Historically, they have better data than WHO. Probably better than 4chan too.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 07:03 AM (XzVUd)

663 trust no one

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 27, 2020 07:04 AM (iTXRQ)

664 I wonder how many Americans are either gobsmacked or disgusted that the democrats and media are more obsessed with the allegation that foreign was conditioned on an investigation of obvious and lurid corruption than they are interested in investigating the obvious and lurid corruption.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 07:05 AM (H8QX8)

665 662 So you trust Fox ?I don't think the CDC knows much
in this case. Historically, they have better data than WHO. Probably
better than 4chan too.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 07:03 AM (XzVUd)

I don't rust Fox as much as I used to years ago. They have been moving more to the left in the past few years.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 07:05 AM (mpXpK)

666 >I don't rust Fox as much as I used to years ago. They have been moving more to the left in the past few years.
Posted by: Vic

they wanna be loved too

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 27, 2020 07:06 AM (iTXRQ)

667 664 I wonder how many Americans are either gobsmacked or disgusted that the democrats and media are more obsessed with the allegation that foreign was conditioned on an investigation of obvious and lurid corruption than they are interested in investigating the obvious and lurid corruption.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 07:05 AM (H8QX

Many people love the HEY LOOK OVER HEAR routine as it allows them to ignore real trouble or look at their own lives.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2020 07:06 AM (JFO2v)

668 hey I got der Teufelposten

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 27, 2020 07:08 AM (iTXRQ)

669 JJ is running around, posting NOOD upstairs

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 27, 2020 07:08 AM (tT0V4)

670 Morning all

Posted by: Ben Had at January 27, 2020 07:08 AM (x29ff)

671 I don't rust Fox as much as I used to years ago. They have been moving more to the left in the past few years.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 07:05 AM (mpXpK)

Epoch Times seems to be a good outfit. CCP hates them with a passion.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 27, 2020 07:08 AM (XzVUd)

672 667 Many people love the HEY LOOK OVER HEAR routine as it allows them to ignore real trouble or look at their own lives.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 27, 2020 07:06 AM (JFO2v)

Old biblical saying:

Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 07:09 AM (mpXpK)

673 JJ up early

Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2020 07:09 AM (mpXpK)

674 ok work beckons
and hey-

let's be careful out there

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 27, 2020 07:10 AM (iTXRQ)

675 Re Kobe Bryant, just saw over at Fr. Z's blog that he was a practicing Catholic and had been seen attending Sunday Mass yesterday morning before he got on the helicopter. He also had previously mentioned in interviews that a priest helped him turn his life around after the rape allegation scandal. Whatever he did back then, it would appear he repented... may he, his daughter and everyone else aboard rest in peace.

Posted by: Secret Square at January 27, 2020 07:11 AM (9WuX0)

676 The plot thickens. LTC fatman's twin brother is the lawyer at the NSC who clears all publications by both current and former NSC officials.

He may be the leak to the nyt about bolton's book.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 27, 2020 07:13 AM (JUOKG)

677 Thank you Lord for another day.

And Antibiotics.

Posted by: jsg at January 27, 2020 07:22 AM (S9ODh)

678 Motivated by his petty pique at Trump Bolton is choosing poorly. Joining the ranks of NeverTrumpers at this juncture is flat-out stupid. Trump is going to walk away from impeachment, get re-elected, and complete the remake of the Republican Party and asshat NeverTrumpers are going to be on the outside for a long time. Bolton is ruining his brand at just the wrong time. I suppose he can always eke out a living with Kristol making the rounds of the Sunday morning shows bad-mouthing the President, but he is alienating a lot of people who have been on his side for a long time.

Posted by: Clean Willie at January 27, 2020 08:54 AM (5FRbo)

679 Drumpf, drumpf, drumpf.

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