Church Shooter Identified

Get ready for a shock -- he's a repeat felon who should have still been in jail.

The man who fatally shot two people at a White Settlement Church on Sunday before being killed by church security has been identified as a 43-year-old Keith Thomas Kinnunen, a River Oaks man with a criminal record, according to two law enforcement sources.
Kinnunen is believed to have been wearing a disguise, including a fake beard, when he stood up, pulled a shotgun from his clothing and opened fire inside the church...

The disguise tells me he intended to flee and escape, rather than just dying in the midst of his rampage. And that maybe he knew about the church's videocameras.

Earlier I quoted a cop, via CNN, saying that this guy was a "transient" with few or no roots in the area. But I misread that quote -- he did have roots in the area, so this could have been personal after all.

The FBI is working to identify the shooter's motive. Matthew DeSarno, the Special Agent in Charge of the FBI's Dallas field office, said the gunman was "relatively transient," but had roots in the area.

He was a repeat felon:

Kinnunen had a criminal record in Tarrant County including charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in 2009 and theft of property in 2013.

This seems like it might indicate some kind of prior terrorist intent:

Kinnunen also was arrested in September 2016 for possession of an illegal weapon in Linden, New Jersey, after he was found taking pictures outside an oil refinery, according to news reports at the time.

The media isn't seizing and pouncing on him as a right wing extremist, which makes me think, as the hours pass, that he's likely one of their own.

The longer we go without the media claiming he's a Trump voter, the higher the odds that he's a Rachel Maddow Superfan.

Meanwhile, a friend says they media will now attempt to dig up nasty stuff about Jack Wilson, the hero who took out this trash.

Why? Because he used his gun lawfully and for a good purpose, and because he says he's glad he ended an "evil."

You can't call mass murderers "evil" -- that kind of dehumanizing language is reserved only for Trump supporters.

[Jack] Wilson was hailed as a hero by local law enforcement officials after stopping a gunman who killed two members of the congregation in the town of White Settlement, deacon Anton “Tony” Wallace and fellow security team member Richard White. Wilson, who owns a gun range, told NBC News on Monday that he was still grappling with the death of his two friends and concerns for the close-knit congregation.
"I don’t feel like I killed a human, I killed an evil and that’s how I’m coping with the situation," Wilson said.

I'm sure Buzzfeed, Vox, and the Fun Bunch at CNN are already conducting an extensive Routine Social Media Background Check on this guy, hoping to find any pretext to call him a Nazi.

Meanwhile, a prior Joe Biden bloviation is getting a fresh look:

“...with all do respect to the governor of Texas, it’s irrational what you’re doing, loosening access to have guns, being able to take them into places of worship...” - @joebiden

His policies would have killed dozens today

pic.twitter.com/upIo1kvvmG
— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) December 30, 2019

And, if you missed it in the sidebar:

Pretty much sums it up. https://t.co/BGI6ru7EE8
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) December 30, 2019

Posted by: Ace at 05:02 PM

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1 OT: first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 30, 2019 05:03 PM (zZbCU)

2 But we have too many people in jail!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 30, 2019 05:04 PM (zZbCU)

3 Crap. I read the content. Calling the otters.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 30, 2019 05:04 PM (1CjJc)

4 I was assured by Joe Biden that shotguns were okay and I should get one. How now, Joe?

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2019 05:04 PM (T6t7i)

5 Hey everybody. Happy new year Ace!!

Re the church shooting being thwarted: respond to lib gun haters the tough way. Tell them it's obvious they would have preferred for more people (or all of them) to die.

In the meantime, gotta share something funny: Deadline Hollywood shared an article that says Cats is gonna lose $71 million of the studio's money. Someone in their comment section suggested they could still turn it into a moneymaker if they just change the title to Pussy. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:05 PM (L2ZTs)

6 The Democrat Party always sides with the criminal.

Posted by: Chris M at December 30, 2019 05:05 PM (eAZVt)

7 MBM: Just turning his life around, no, wait, not a misguided minority yute...right wing christian fundamentalist...no, wait, shot up a church...

MBM.....

MBM...we got nuttin'

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 30, 2019 05:05 PM (oBfF8)

8 The Bee fucking hits it outta the park.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:06 PM (BcjRN)

9 Are the screen writers on vacation or on strike? The modern journolist needs narratives fed in.

Posted by: henry at December 30, 2019 05:07 PM (J3Rfi)

10 The longer we go without the media claiming he's a Trump voter, the higher the odds that he's a Rachel Maddow Superfan.

They seem to be learning, before it was always the first thing out of their lips WHITE SUPREMACIST TRUMP SUPPORTING MALE NATIONALIST SHOOTER... what's that? Black? Muslim? Obama voter?

... and in our next story, a puppy that skateboards!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:07 PM (KZzsI)

11 It's complicated.

Posted by: wth at December 30, 2019 05:07 PM (v0R5T)

12 blake, even CNN had to acknowledge it took someone with a gun inside the church to stop the shooting.

That HAD to hurt. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:07 PM (L2ZTs)

13 The Bee fucking hits it outta the park.
Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:06 PM (BcjRN)
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I'm willing to be they get more than a few threats.

They really do smack MBM and the left, BIRM, around.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM (oBfF8)

14 10 The longer we go without the media claiming he's a Trump voter, the higher the odds that he's a Rachel Maddow Superfan.

They seem to be learning, before it was always the first thing out of their lips WHITE SUPREMACIST TRUMP SUPPORTING MALE NATIONALIST SHOOTER... what's that? Black? Muslim? Obama voter?

... and in our next story, a puppy that skateboards!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:07 PM (KZzsI)

========

Better to lead with cadets doing circles with their fingers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM (zZbCU)

15 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM (arJlL)

16 Deadline Hollywood shared an article that says Cats is gonna lose $71 million of the studio's money.

I cannot figure out how they screwed it up so badly. The broadway run was forever, apparently its really entertaining. But they made it a bomb with creepy, bizarre CGI and makeup. What on earth???

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM (KZzsI)

17 WE MUST NOT DENY HIS SPARK OF DIVINITY!

Posted by: Nanzi Pelousy at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM (os5ep)

18 Ace, the cop you quoted (FBI agent) did say the perp had roots in the area. Unless you quoted another cop that I didn't see.:

Matthew DeSarno, the FBI agent in charge of the Dallas-Fort Worth area, didn't identify the shooter, but said he was "relatively transient with roots to this area" and had been arrested multiple times in different municipalities.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM (H9cB7)

19 Rabid digs need to be put down, Wilson did a community service.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM (cl6fd)

20 CCW is your friend. The best way to stop evil that is armed is to be better armed.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 30, 2019 05:09 PM (0OmEj)

21 > Meanwhile, a friend says they media will now attempt to dig up nasty stuff about Jack Wilson, the hero who took out this trash.

> Why? Because he used his gun lawfully and for a good purpose, and because he says he's glad he ended an "evil."

He's also a Trump supporter.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:09 PM (i0wNm)

22 White male, therefore a white supremacist. QED.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2019 05:09 PM (NWiLs)

23 Err dogs

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 30, 2019 05:09 PM (cl6fd)

24 "relatively transient with roots to this area" and had been arrested multiple times in different municipalities.

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What the Actual Fuck???

Are you trying to say he's a distance runner???

Posted by: fixerupper at December 30, 2019 05:10 PM (8XRCm)

25 16 Deadline Hollywood shared an article that says Cats is gonna lose $71 million of the studio's money.

I cannot figure out how they screwed it up so badly. The broadway run was forever, apparently its really entertaining. But they made it a bomb with creepy, bizarre CGI and makeup. What on earth???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM (KZzsI)

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I didn't want to believe it, but Tom Hooper is a crazy person and a bad director who makes terrible creative decisions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 30, 2019 05:10 PM (zZbCU)

26 Is rabid digs when your house bites you ?

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 05:10 PM (arJlL)

27 Christopher R Taylor, as I understand it the Broadway musical was pretty crappy actually. But it had some sort of appeal to the dumbshit elites for some reason and kept running forever. I think a lot of the audience for it was kids, too.

On top of that, not everything translates well from theater to film, especially now that filmmakers are so obsessed with using CGI that they don't give a shit about story, making sense or even alienating the audience. I think some directors think they can 'spectacle' the viewer to death, which is BS but they keep trying.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:10 PM (L2ZTs)

28 Err dogs
Posted by: Anna Puma

"Dags"
--Brad Pitt in Snatch

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:10 PM (KZzsI)

29 Does relatively transient mean he was moving from one relative's couch to another relative's couch?

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 30, 2019 05:11 PM (eAMlh)

30 He was probably using a "shockwave" which is a 12 ga firearm that is relatively new. His "extensive" criminal record did not show any felon convictions or disqualifying reasons that would keep him from legally getting a gun. There was a mention that the guy had gotten free meals at the church and was mad they wouldn't give him money. That may be the "motive" other than he was crazy. But the right guy was in the right place when this went down. 6 seconds to stop the shooter. The head cop said his officers were on scene within a minute. I doubt that but even then, how many could the madman taken out in a minute. Good preparation permits good performance.

Posted by: FiftycalTX at December 30, 2019 05:11 PM (PxqWo)

31 The Church Shooter may've been a felon, and he's certainly dead, but you can count on it that he'll still Vote Democrat.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 30, 2019 05:11 PM (QzJWU)

32 Dirty little secret, NJ prosecutes virtually no criminals for gun or weapons possession, although they will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, legal gun owners who run afoul NJ's horrific gun laws.

Velvet glove treatment for criminals, barbed wired pineapple shoved up the ass for legal gun owners.

Posted by: White Rabbit Object at December 30, 2019 05:11 PM (1qzr2)

33 TJM, stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel about Tom Hooper! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:11 PM (L2ZTs)

34 Props to the cops for tipping their hat to the man who saved the day, instead of falling back on that "you need to wait for the professionals to take care of it" nonsense.

But indeed, how many warnings does the system need? Sadly, TX has elected a few more "soft on crime" DAs. So this means the cops aren't going to bother with a lot of criminals - why should they, if the case will be dismissed out of hand? (Remember, the Dallas DA wholeheartedly endorses theft just so long as it's less than $750.) I don't blame them if their efforts won't lead to anything. And then the problem of crime will begin to take off...

We need far more concealed carriers out there to mitigate those effects. Besides, even IF there were ZERO problems with the cops, and the DAs can be trusted to do their jobs, and the system worked well - the cops cannot be everywhere, all the time. We don't have the Stasi yet.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 30, 2019 05:11 PM (kFLDt)

35 I think some directors think they can 'spectacle' the viewer to death, which is BS but they keep trying.

"I'm sure I do not know what you're talking about"
--J.J. Abrams

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:11 PM (KZzsI)

36 Who takes pictures of refineries?

Posted by: Chilly Dae at December 30, 2019 05:11 PM (pGnDm)

37 The Democrat Party always sides with the criminal.

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Whether it's abortion, capital punishment, school behavior, theft, terrorism or whatnot, the Donks always support the guilty over the innocent.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 30, 2019 05:12 PM (+y/Ru)

38 2 But we have too many people in jail!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, source of random movie thoughts at December 30, 2019 05:04 PM (zZbCU)

This guy was white, so no problem with jailing him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:12 PM (r4PDB)

39 Rebel as an orange tabby is an Uncanny Valley too far.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 30, 2019 05:12 PM (cl6fd)

40 Welp, that's a good start...

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 30, 2019 05:12 PM (lpCmy)

41 G-d bless that good man who had the spiritual fortitude and the training to do what he did. I suspect the media will try to indict him for....something.

Biden? Still wrong after all these years.

Two hours at the range this morning. The house now smells like Hoppe's....and that's a good thing.

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at December 30, 2019 05:12 PM (zLp0Z)

42 nine billion examples of cat girls from Japan and they couldn't come up with a good one for Cats??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:13 PM (KZzsI)

43 Nothing says Happy Holidays like church shootings and synagogue invasions.

Posted by: Signs of the times at December 30, 2019 05:13 PM (xtufX)

44 6 The Democrat Party always sides with the criminal.
Posted by: Chris M at December 30, 2019 05:05 PM (eAZVt)

Criminals are a core constituency. Along with perverts, communists, lunatics, retards, and other assorted losers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:13 PM (r4PDB)

45 first member shot, Mr White was part of security, and drew the first shot as he was drawing his concealed handgun on the perp. this allowed Wilson to noodle the perp. Mr White, the true hero.

Posted by: politics uber alles at December 30, 2019 05:13 PM (0hOKG)

46 > Does relatively transient mean he was moving from one relative's couch to another relative's couch?

I thin it means mostly homeless with some relatives in the area who occasionally support him.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (i0wNm)

47 The Bee saying the MFM were upset the facts don't align and were not seeking children who witnessed the event to parade around for over a year this time, was a hoot.

Wouldn't that be different! Four high school juniors, two boys, two girls, doing pressers everywhere, speaking of 2A rights, self-defense, training, sweet tea and Jesus, and armed volunteer adults who step up to protect them.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (+fPHo)

48 CRT, yup.

There are, or were, directors who could make fantastic spectacles of movies. David Lean comes to mind... but he was also really huge on story and sometimes even packed in too much story detail to keep track of... which is the complete opposite of today's directors who throw 1000 tons of spectacle on the screen and about two ounces of story. Again IMHO.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (L2ZTs)

49 "I have it on the highest authority that this Wilson guy checked out Mein Kampf from the school library in the 10th grade!!!"
--Rachel Maddow

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (KZzsI)

50 Deadline Hollywood shared an article that says Cats is gonna lose $71 million of the studio's money.

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Not enough QWERTY!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (+y/Ru)

51 *think

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (i0wNm)

52 Japan invented thought controlled cat ears

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (cl6fd)

53 OK, again White Settlement is mainly Travellers, so you're going to have "transients". Which may or not be accurate.

Posted by: Heddy at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (zfSkc)

54 Criminals are a core constituency. Along with perverts, communists, lunatics, retards, and other assorted losers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

And Methodists.

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (T6t7i)

55 Sit Jack Wilson next Melania at the SOTU address.

Posted by: The man who would be Paul Drake at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (FsgBK)

56 Has Gropey Joe ever been right?

Posted by: Inogame at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (1TU21)

57 45 first member shot, Mr White was part of security, and drew the first shot as he was drawing his concealed handgun on the perp. this allowed Wilson to noodle the perp. Mr White, the true hero.

Posted by: politics uber alles at December 30, 2019 05:13 PM (0hOKG)

That's a lesson. If you are going draw, pull it clean and quick.

Posted by: Chilly Dae at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (pGnDm)

58 Pray for the victim, the perp to rot in Hell

Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2019 05:15 PM (ZCEU2)

59 Meanwhile, a friend says they media will now attempt to dig up nasty stuff about Jack Wilson, the hero who took out this trash.

I can hear Maddow now.

Although the video doesn't show it, it possible someone in the congregation made an OK sign with their fingers thus triggering the attack.
Joining us next Professor Jane Plainsnapper who will explain why xhe believes such a possibility is sufficient to begin government regulation of religious services.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 30, 2019 05:15 PM (axyOa)

60 >>>18 Ace, the cop you quoted (FBI agent) did say the perp had roots in the area. Unless you quoted another cop that I didn't see.:

Matthew DeSarno, the FBI agent in charge of the Dallas-Fort Worth area, didn't identify the shooter, but said he was "relatively transient with roots to this area" and had been arrested multiple times in different municipalities.

...

thanks, I was afraid the error was mine.

Posted by: ace at December 30, 2019 05:15 PM (PbpT7)

61 small point but let's make sure he's off the voter rolls now too...he sounds like a Buttigeg voter

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 30, 2019 05:15 PM (FEQY4)

62 I see where that Nit-Wit Joe Biden is calling Guns at Church as Irrational What a total jerk

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 30, 2019 05:15 PM (wGqjj)

63 Cats is gonna lose $71 million of the studio's money.
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You give a furry a 71 million dollars and you're surprised the market for the thing it produced is "select"?

Idiots.

Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:15 PM (xtufX)

64 Dunno if we missed it on the HQ, but local whack job killed his wife and dog due to mind control rays emanating from his bloodthirsty firearm and TDS, but mostly TDS.

Shot the pets, too, but messed up his self-inflicted head wound.

https://tinyurl.com/vsbnp3l

Heavy.com

https://tinyurl.com/tp3afq2

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 30, 2019 05:15 PM (1CjJc)

65 Anna, yup.

I also read there's a scene where Rebel 'unzips' her cat suit, and she's wearing a full dance outfit underneath for a dance scene. Then it ends, and she 'unzips' back to another cat outfit. WTF??? In other words, they've turned the play into a Warner Bros cartoon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:16 PM (L2ZTs)

66 Someone had indicated earlier that he may have been there to rob the church. I dismissed that but i would reconsider if he was found to have some type of bag or sack on his person.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 30, 2019 05:16 PM (CCNCh)

67 The teens from White Settlement vs the Stoneman Douglas assholes.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 30, 2019 05:16 PM (+fPHo)

68 If it's so dangerous and irrational to CCW in church, why aren't there some stories of these people dangerously and irrationally using their guns in church?

Because it doesn't happen, that's why.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 30, 2019 05:16 PM (sWM8x)

69 I'll tell you what's wrong with Cats, Soupy.

It's about cats.

Posted by: Pookie the Lion at December 30, 2019 05:16 PM (os5ep)

70 "The FBI is working to identify the shooter's motive. Matthew DeSarno, the Special Agent in Charge of the FBI's Dallas field office, said the gunman was 'relatively transient,' but had roots in the area."

How many people came away from this thinking Matthew DeSarno was the name of the shooter? This is some awkward and crappy writing.

Posted by: Chris M at December 30, 2019 05:17 PM (eAZVt)

71 5 first member shot, Mr White was part of security, and drew the first shot as he was drawing his concealed handgun on the perp. this allowed Wilson to noodle the perp. Mr White, the true hero.

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I don't like watching murder videos but the big guy who drew his gun...sadly way too slow...is the real hero. He took the first(?) shot from the villain, saving someone else.

I assume that's who you're referring to.

What's really sad is he was there with his daughter...the crying shrieks after the gunplay was her.

Also, damn yo...that head shot was tight.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 30, 2019 05:17 PM (FEQY4)

72 I saw a lot of second guessing why the good guy took a head shot instead of a body mass shot... My theory is that he probably figured the perp had on body armor

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2019 05:17 PM (6XlcD)

73 Props to the cops for tipping their hat to the man who saved the day, instead of falling back on that "you need to wait for the professionals to take care of it" nonsense.

Neutralizing the threat in six seconds to where he didn't get another shot off just simply destroyed that claptrap.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 05:17 PM (bd376)

74 On top of that, not everything translates well from theater to film, especially now that filmmakers are so obsessed with using CGI that they don't give a shit about story, making sense or even alienating the audience. I think some directors think they can 'spectacle' the viewer to death, which is BS but they keep trying.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:10 PM (L2ZTs)

Yesterday I happened to flick on the monitor connected to the Roku to find it was on the TV setting instead, and Randolph Scott's "7th Cavalry" was on. I saw that as a kid, and so started watching out of nostalgia. But after a while I realized that the movie was actually engaging: it had a plot, a story arc, development of characters, dramatic tension, the lot. No CGI, no car chases, no profanity, no PC crap, just entertainment.

It was kind of refreshing, actually. And that from a Saturday matinee-type movie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:17 PM (r4PDB)

75 Japan also gave the world Uni and me.

Nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 30, 2019 05:17 PM (cl6fd)

76 Let's be honest, the market for a big spectacle song and dance movie is pretty small. I know that Hollywood loves to make em but they have not been big bank since the 50s

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:18 PM (KZzsI)

77 I can't see law enforcement getting there and stopping the perp in five seconds.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 30, 2019 05:18 PM (YslsA)

78 Its a tough thing to be the second person to draw in a gunfight. The first CCW good guy lost so the 2nd CCW good guy could get an accurate head shot from some distance. Good shot!

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 30, 2019 05:18 PM (0OmEj)

79 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 30, 2019 05:18 PM (iJXSP)

80 Cats

needs a quick reshoot, edit and a sub title

Cats
- furries get the bullet

Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (EPbnh)

81 The biggest problem with "Cats" is the terrible story and music.

Posted by: Chris M at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (eAZVt)

82 I think he was just a nut, I want to know where he got the shotgun from tho.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (r+sAi)

83 @5
Cats was massively overrated as a musical, it literally has one memorable song, pun intended

Also whoever came up with the character design and look for the movie should be barred from having anything to do with movie or television production for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: White Rabbit Object at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (1qzr2)

84 The Left wants to take away our right to defend ourselves *and* unleashes criminals upon us with their "justice reform" lunacy. What do they think is going to happen?

Posted by: pookysgirl with four calling daughters at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (XKZwp)

85 57
45 first member shot, Mr White was part of security, and drew the first
shot as he was drawing his concealed handgun on the perp. this allowed
Wilson to noodle the perp. Mr White, the true hero.

Posted by: politics uber alles at December 30, 2019 05:13 PM (0hOKG)

That's a lesson. If you are going draw, pull it clean and quick.

Posted by: Chilly Dae at December 30, 2019 05:14 PM (pGnDm)

That, and if you are volunteering as armed security, invest in body armor. I don't know if this guy had it, but it is better to up your chances.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (1CjJc)

86 When oh when will the Supreme Court revisit O'Connor v. Donaldson and make it easier to drop the net on people who are "battling demons?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (r4PDB)

87 Jay, yup.
Oftentime the best use of CGI is when it's so little and so rare and so unobtrusive, you never even notice it.

Supposedly there's CGI in Gone Girl, but I couldn't possible tell you where it is.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (L2ZTs)

88 >> I can't see law enforcement getting there and stopping the perp in five seconds.

No way. They'd have to locate and shoot all of the dogs left in the parishoner's cars before they even attempted a Hostage Negotiation.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (BcjRN)

89 I think Cats failed because they CGI'd that guy's wang and because it was an ungodly awful looking mess that proved mans' hubris is his ultimate sin requiring the mercy from an infinitely merciful God. But mostly because it was an ungodly awful looking mess that proved mans' hubris is his ultimate sin requiring the mercy from an infinitely merciful God.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (FEQY4)

90 Let's be honest, the market for a big spectacle song and dance movie is pretty small. I know that Hollywood loves to make em but they have not been big bank since the 50s
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You are forgetting something.

Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:20 PM (RatoC)

91 I saw a lot of second guessing why the good guy took a head shot instead of a body mass shot... My theory is that he probably figured the perp had on body armor
Posted by: It's me donna

Head shot was all he had. Parishioners were still in the way. He said that in an interview.
He said he only teaches that when there isn't any other choice.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 05:20 PM (bd376)

92 88 >> I can't see law enforcement getting there and stopping the perp in five seconds.

No way. They'd have to locate and shoot all of the dogs left in the parishoner's cars before they even attempted a Hostage Negotiation.
Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:19 PM (BcjRN)

*snort*

Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2019 05:20 PM (NWiLs)

93 I don't feel like I killed a human, I killed an evil.

That line kind of hits you.

Posted by: t-bird at December 30, 2019 05:20 PM (C78No)

94 > as I understand it the Broadway musical was pretty crappy actually. But it had some sort of appeal to the dumbshit elites for some reason and kept running forever. I think a lot of the audience for it was kids, too.

I think the elites ridiculed the show. There are lots of opinions on why it was popular. I've heard it was relatively clean compared to other shows at the time, and the extensive audience participation was a crowd pleaser. Also, people liked the songs.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:20 PM (i0wNm)

95 I saw a lot of second guessing why the good guy took a head shot instead of a body mass shot

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Shouldda shot the gun outta his hand. Everybody knows that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 30, 2019 05:20 PM (+y/Ru)

96 Media Disappointed To Learn Armed Citizen Stopped Mass Shooting

Hell, one of their very own was shot and they didn't give a fuck.

D-Lamp was a prophet without honor.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2019 05:20 PM (Ki5SV)

97 Head shot was all he had. Parishioners were still in the way. He said that in an interview.
He said he only teaches that when there isn't any other choice.

Thanks... I didn't hear that

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2019 05:20 PM (6XlcD)

98 I'd kind of like to know how a felon acquired his guns. Sounds like he broke the law.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 30, 2019 05:20 PM (YslsA)

99 >>The biggest problem with "Cats" is the terrible story and music.

Dog movies never flop.

Posted by: Hooch at December 30, 2019 05:21 PM (BcjRN)

100 the higher the odds that he's a Rachel Maddow Superfan.
______________

Do such people really exist?

Sad!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 30, 2019 05:21 PM (k4dH2)

101 White Settlement could be an XTC album.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 30, 2019 05:21 PM (aKsyK)

102 Two hours at the range this morning. The house now smells like Hoppe's....and that's a good thing.
Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at December 30, 2019 05:12 PM (zLp0Z)

Just a drop behind each ear, and I'm good to go for the entire evening.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 30, 2019 05:21 PM (EHSip)

103 Even if the cops did manage to arrive in a minute (seems doubtful) they would not go charging in like the cavalry, they'd assess the situation, try to get eyes inside, call in for backup, get okay to move in, carefully take position.... by then the guy is out of bullets.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:21 PM (KZzsI)

104 The Democrat Party always sides with the criminal.

Posted by: Chris M

The DemonRat Party has been a criminal enterprise for over 200 years.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 30, 2019 05:21 PM (fp3O8)

105 Best. Biden video. Evah.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 30, 2019 05:21 PM (gd9RK)

106 >>>The longer we go without the media claiming he's a Trump voter, the higher the odds that he's a Rachel Maddow Superfan.

Is there a specific name for this matrix? If not there should be, it comes up often enough.

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2019 05:21 PM (hvf9s)

107 bonhomme, that could be it.
I know the show Murphy Brown did a lot of jokes at the expense of Cats.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:21 PM (L2ZTs)

108 Do we know if the hero was an ex-FBI agent or was that fake news to help Mueller, Comey and Strozk's reputation?

Posted by: tommylotto at December 30, 2019 05:22 PM (dYinJ)

109 The longer we go without the media claiming he's a Trump voter, the higher the odds that he's a Rachel Maddow Superfan.

--

He was a repeat criminal, ergo, a democrat.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 30, 2019 05:22 PM (YslsA)

110 D'oh Boy sent me a meme today. Picture of the church during the shooting, with this:

MESS WITH THE FLOCK

YOU GET THE GLOCK

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 05:22 PM (ptqGC)

111 Are they still blaming Trump for the machete attack in NY?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2019 05:22 PM (6XlcD)

112 as I understand it the Broadway musical was pretty crappy actually.

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I saw an off Broadway production and could barely sit through. No real plot. I hated A Chorus Line, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 30, 2019 05:22 PM (+y/Ru)

113 The "Baby On Board"-sign on the Bidens' car
means they're putting the baby on a Board.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 30, 2019 05:22 PM (Ndje9)

114 Perry Mason, here, suggesting CCWII shot as high as possible in order to minimize the probability of hitting an innocent.

Posted by: Chilly Dae at December 30, 2019 05:23 PM (pGnDm)

115 "But it had some sort of appeal to the dumbshit elites for some reason and kept running forever. I think a lot of the audience for it was kids, too."

It was the T-shirts with the cat's eyes. This was the only thing of value to come from "Cats".

Posted by: Chris M at December 30, 2019 05:23 PM (eAZVt)

116 >>I understand it the Broadway musical was pretty crappy actually.

Fucking awful. Hate my parents for that entire ordeal.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:23 PM (BcjRN)

117 Dunno if we missed it on the HQ, but local whack job killed his wife and dog due to mind control rays emanating from his bloodthirsty firearm and TDS, but mostly TDS.

Attention Supreme Court: this is what I'm talking about.

Oh, and fuck Ken Kesey and "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." You can ALWAYS find abusive outlying situations. Right now, the abusive outliers are running are running around loose, murdering people and building encampments all over California.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:23 PM (r4PDB)

118 Do we know if the hero was an ex-FBI agent or was that fake news to help Mueller, Comey and Strozk's reputation?
Posted by: tommylotto

Unsubstantiated rumor that turned out false.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 05:23 PM (bd376)

119 the good guy with the gun said he had to hesitate because parishioners were in the line of fire ... and that is why he took the head shot, a second later ... over the people.

He also said they were leery of the guy from the start ... and had the one guy close because of that I guess. Not sure if he had the shotgun on him the whole time ... maybe he had it hidden around the corner ... where he reaches back ... or in the bathroom (iirc they said he went out to the bathroom once).

Churches that want to help but don't want to be a welfare office can face tough choices on when to recognize trouble, and where to draw the lines of hand up versus being conned.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 30, 2019 05:23 PM (Cus5s)

120 "It was better than cats"
--Hypnotized theater goer on David Letterman

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:23 PM (KZzsI)

121 Anon, A Chorus Line is extremely dated to the mid-1970s, ridonkulously boomer-centric, and very whiny.

But at least it has a plot: the frustration of trying to make a living on Broadway at that time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (L2ZTs)

122 There is a reason the kick dance in A Chorus Line is the only part ever shown.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (r+sAi)

123 Meanwhile, a friend says they media will now attempt to dig up nasty stuff about Jack Wilson, the hero who took out this trash.

Why? Because he used his gun lawfully and for a good purpose, and because he says he's glad he ended an "evil."

If that happens, I am sorry to say, I have no sympathy for him. He talked to NBC! He spoke to the enemy! He should have told them to fuck off and go back to crying that so many deplorables were able to protect themselves.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (Ki5SV)

124 Let's be honest, the market for a big spectacle song and dance movie is pretty small.

Titanic: The Musical

Which is a real thing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (9miVc)

125 A cop would have emptied his 17+1.

Mr White is Clint Eastwood.

This, the story for Eastwood's next movie, "Mr White," which like Sully, will focus on the investigations following the event, and Mr White shining through as the hero.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (+fPHo)

126 >>>>Meanwhile, a friend says they media will now attempt to dig up nasty stuff about Jack Wilson, the hero who took out this trash.

God help Mr. Wilson if he every retweeted that 'Trump clotheslines CNN' meme.

Posted by: El Kabong at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (datdl)

127 Cats also had the best Theatre Location on Broadway...Forever.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (BcjRN)

128 The "Baby On Board"-sign on the Bidens' car
means they're putting the baby on a Board.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 30, 2019 05:22 PM (Ndje9)

I've never understood the point of that "Baby on Board" crap. Do they think other motorists were planning on running them off the road, but now will reconsider because there's a baby on board?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (r4PDB)

129 What else can you say but, nice shot.

You can tell he owned a gun range. Pretty flawless execution.

The church also had a well rehearsed plan. I counted 5 people with guns responding from various parts of the church. That's not accidental.

The one security guard who was killed seemed to hesitate. Never hesitate folks. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (NzPBq)

130 I understand it the Broadway musical was pretty crappy actually.
________________

A friend dragged me to it. The whole time I was sitting there, I just kept thinking "really?" I was embarrassed for the actors. It was just awful.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 30, 2019 05:25 PM (k4dH2)

131 The Davis tweet features replies of 'Bu- former LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER!!!!!'

Once again, they believe that there are some elite class of superhumans that can handle guns. The average prole, however, must be unarmed because he's too stupid/incompetent.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2019 05:25 PM (Gz7dA)

132 Wasn't that Moulin Rouge movie really big, too?

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:25 PM (BcjRN)

133
Leftist Judges and Leftist Prosecutors Do Not Enforce The Gun Laws That Are Already On The Books.

We don't need new or more gun laws. We need to enforce the gun laws already on the books.

Just more proof the Left is full of shit and doesn't believe any of their own crap.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:25 PM (CMrar)

134 Mr White = Mr Wilson

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 30, 2019 05:25 PM (+fPHo)

135
"The man who fatally shot two people..."

The second victim died?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:26 PM (CMrar)

136 Japan invented thought controlled cat ears

Whose thoughts?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 30, 2019 05:26 PM (gd9RK)

137 We don't need new or more gun laws. We need to enforce the gun laws already on the books.

BINGO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 30, 2019 05:26 PM (cEsBM)

138 121 Anon, A Chorus Line is extremely dated to the mid-1970s, ridonkulously boomer-centric, and very whiny.

But at least it has a plot: the frustration of trying to make a living on Broadway at that time.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (L2ZTs)

Now updated to "A Latte Machine," detailing the frustration of trying to make a living with a gender studies degree.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:26 PM (r4PDB)

139 45 first member shot, Mr White was part of security, and drew the first shot as he was drawing his concealed handgun on the perp. this allowed Wilson to noodle the perp. Mr White, the true hero.
Posted by: politics uber alles at December 30, 2019 05:13 PM (0hOKG)
-------------------------------
No greater love ......
Yes. Let's please not forget the greatest hero here.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 30, 2019 05:26 PM (M/9m0)

140 I am shocked, and remain so, that The Breakfast Club hasn't yet been adapted to a Broadway play.

Think about it: the film itself is very stagy. 95% takes place in *one* place... the high school library.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:26 PM (L2ZTs)

141 I saw Cats years ago locally, a touring company, and I really liked it. Of course that was because we got seats in the third row, to the right, and just in front of us there was this chorus line dancer. She didn't have any lines, but she was BUILT, and she was in this shiny skin tight brown and white striped bodysuit, and she WORKED it, oh did she ever! And when I say skin tight, I mean Skin Tight! And that's about all I remember about Cats.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (Kpl3J)

142 I cannot figure out how they screwed it up so badly. The broadway run was forever, apparently its really entertaining. But they made it a bomb with creepy, bizarre CGI and makeup. What on earth???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM

Sometimes what works in the theater doesn't translate to film. A Case in point would be Little Shop of Horrors.
(spoilers)
In the stage production the plant kills Audrey and and Seymour and takes over the world. When they filmed that ending and showed it to test audiences, they hated it. Its director noted that in the theater, the actors come out for a curtain call and you see they aren't dead. Not so for a film.

Posted by: Chuck C at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (r6GXX)

143 Wasn't that Moulin Rouge movie really big, too?

It won a bunch of awards at least.

Worldwide earnings
$179,213,434

Only cost 50 mill to make so it made some money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (KZzsI)

144 That tidbit about taking pictures of a refinery is puzzling. There's a lot of radical to the point of sabotage and violence environmental groups. Also, someone brought it up earlier that Antifa put out a blurb about Christmas in Texas. Sad about the two deaths, unlike the MSM who were hoping for the mass shooting threshold and, of course, an AR.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (C1Lsn)

145 Jay, LOL and right on!!! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (L2ZTs)

146 Rent

Also a mmusical. And equally awful.

Musicals pretty much suck.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (BcjRN)

147 The FBI is working to identify the shooter's motive.

We're trying a few out on focus groups, but we haven't settled on one yet.

Posted by: The FBI at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (NpvYf)

148 >>> Let's be honest, the market for a big spectacle song and dance movie is pretty small. I know that Hollywood loves to make em but they have not been big bank since the 50s

Greatest Showman did well, despite Hollywood trying to sink it since they view PT Barnum as an unperson. But flyover country loved it.

Budget: $84 Million
Box Office: $435 Million

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (hvf9s)

149 > If it's so dangerous and irrational to CCW in church, why aren't there some stories of these people dangerously and irrationally using their guns in church?

> Because it doesn't happen, that's why.

Eh, there are a few stories out there.

Recently some septuagenarian had an unholstered .22 in his backpack fire in a Provo church.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (i0wNm)

150 Best play I've ever seen was the edited version of the Dracula Puppet musical at the end of Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Wanted to see a whole version.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (CCNCh)

151 Titanic: The Musical

Which is a real thing.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:24 PM (9miVc)

And which is actually a quite good show. Maury Yeston happens to be one of the last good lyricists and composers on Broadway.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (Ki5SV)

152 Jack Wilson posted on FB an anti impeachment meme.

The woke mob will come for him.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (ZfRYq)

153 Tom, sounds like a nice view :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:28 PM (L2ZTs)

154 The last CO school shooting by the gay kid and the tranny kid had the cops claiming the credit for stopping it the first 24 hours until the real story came out about the hero kids.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2019 05:28 PM (r+sAi)

155 BRUCE JENNER STARS IN

BYE BYE BIRDY

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:28 PM (BcjRN)

156 Molin Rouge Did 180 million in 2001.

Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:28 PM (vJReS)

157 The Davis tweet features replies of 'Bu- former LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER!!!!!'

Once again, they believe that there are some elite class of superhumans that can handle guns. The average prole, however, must be unarmed because he's too stupid/incompetent.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

He was a reserve sheriff's deputy. He could shoot moreso because he owned a gun range.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 05:28 PM (bd376)

158 We don't need new or more gun laws. We need to enforce the gun laws already on the books.

Just more proof the Left is full of shit and doesn't believe any of their own crap.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:25 PM (CMrar)

We need to: 1) come down like a ton of bricks on illegal guns and shooters in the ghetto, and 2) make it easier to institutionalize nutjobs.

Those two actions would knock the gun violence problem right on the head.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:28 PM (r4PDB)

159 118 Do we know if the hero was an ex-FBI agent or was that fake news to help Mueller, Comey and Strozk's reputation?
Posted by: tommylotto

Unsubstantiated rumor that turned out false.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 05:23 PM (bd376)
_____________

That was my first thought when I read that. I just knew that was false and I knew it was being pumped out there by the media as propaganda. "The FBI is good. It is okay for them to have a gun, because they are trained. You don't need a gun, because they are out there to protect you." How have I become so jaded? Never mind. I know already.

Posted by: tommylotto at December 30, 2019 05:29 PM (dYinJ)

160 Oh, the FBI is investigating? Thank God. Otherwise how would they cover up what was missed by them while they were participating in the Russia hoax. This guy had to be on their radar.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 05:29 PM (NzPBq)

161 Aspiring rappers can't get a break.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 30, 2019 05:29 PM (1g7ch)

162 Showgirls is the Best Musical -

Fight me!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at December 30, 2019 05:29 PM (BcjRN)

163 That tidbit about taking pictures of a refinery is puzzling.

Probably some Occupy experience, kicked out for going *way* overboard and scaring people.

Posted by: t-bird at December 30, 2019 05:29 PM (C78No)

164 152 Jack Wilson posted on FB an anti impeachment meme.

The woke mob will come for him.
Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (ZfRYq)

From a safe distance, of course.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:29 PM (r4PDB)

165 >>That tidbit about taking pictures of a refinery is puzzling

Depends who he was hanging with in prison if you ask me.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:30 PM (BcjRN)

166 Churches that want to help but don't want to be a welfare office can face tough choices on when to recognize trouble, and where to draw the lines of hand up versus being conned.

......

We get them from time to time.

I only ever give food.

If they want money, I make arrangements for them to do work around the church.

I always ask them which church they usually attend. The answer is always the same, and I don't think I need to say it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 30, 2019 05:30 PM (Nqutb)

167 "We're trying a few out on focus groups, but we haven't settled on one yet.

Posted by: The FBI"

Don't forget to plant some evidence too!

Posted by: Chris M at December 30, 2019 05:30 PM (eAZVt)

168 Why would it be dangerous and irrational to have guns in church?
I think it's irrational for Creepy Joe to call himself a faithful Catholic when he denies the teachings of the church.
It might also be dangerous.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 30, 2019 05:30 PM (eAMlh)

169 I've never understood the point of that "Baby on Board" crap. Do they think other motorists were planning on running them off the road, but now will reconsider because there's a baby on board?

I thought it was so that when you had a wreck, people would look for the baby.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:30 PM (9miVc)

170

Baby On Board

https://youtu.be/EVRcmnVYlLI

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 30, 2019 05:30 PM (aKsyK)

171 I heard an interesting point on the radio this morning. All of the guns belonging to the security team have been confiscated and will be held for 10 days. This requires the church to have a whole new security team in place. My thought was just use another gun but for some reason that is not the case.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (cgIyZ)

172 That tidbit about taking pictures of a refinery is puzzling.

Probably some Occupy experience, kicked out for going *way* overboard and scaring people.
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Don't forget the Cleveland Occupy/Antifa cell that got arrested for trying to blow up a highway bridge with what they thought was a semi full of plastic explosive.

Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (xtufX)

173 Bertram, my fave sign was always
"Caution: Baby in Trunk"

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (L2ZTs)

174 >>I thought it was so that when you had a wreck, people would look for the baby.

That's the Dingo's job.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (BcjRN)

175 Showgirls is the Best Musical -

Fight me!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at December 30, 2019 05:29 PM (BcjRN)

*stares*

Posted by: All That Jazz at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (9miVc)

176 Has Trump tweeted his support for the victims of this church shooting and the support of Christians in general, who are and have been under mass attack?
The Marxists have hired lots of organizers and placed them in many communities to agitate and cause chaos in 2020.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (w1NOm)

177 The musical in the Saturday Night Fever sequel looked like it could make it for real on Broadway.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 30, 2019 05:32 PM (CCNCh)

178

I posted the conclusion to a study a while ago on how very few rapists actually go to prison.

Rapists don't do time, most o the time. Or they do very little time. I'll bet most of you didn't know that.

The Left doesn't give a shit about women getting raped. They don't...unless there's political value in it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:32 PM (CMrar)

179 Refinery as a target could suggest a Left Wing anti environmental leaning. But ssssh.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 05:32 PM (NzPBq)

180 My church has armed guards patrolling outside the church during services, and I think several of the deacons carry. The nursery has an armed guard out front, too. I feel safe at church, but also sad because the Church is under assault.

Posted by: jmel at December 30, 2019 05:32 PM (OeWgo)

181 I know Stanley Kubrick loved All That Jazz (the film).

So it must have something going for it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:32 PM (L2ZTs)

182 Jack Wilson posted on FB an anti impeachment meme.

The woke mob will come for him.

Morricone will write the soundtrack.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2019 05:32 PM (Gz7dA)

183 Why would it be dangerous and irrational to have guns in church?
I think it's irrational for Creepy Joe to call himself a faithful Catholic when he denies the teachings of the church.
It might also be dangerous.
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Newsflash: THe Vatican has its own armory. Its not just pikes and halberds.

Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:32 PM (vJReS)

184 "Baby, I'm Bored"

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Purveyor of Locally Sourced artisinal Hogwash at December 30, 2019 05:32 PM (xPJvm)

185 171 I heard an interesting point on the radio this morning. All of the guns belonging to the security team have been confiscated and will be held for 10 days. This requires the church to have a whole new security team in place. My thought was just use another gun but for some reason that is not the case.
Posted by: Ben Had

WTF?

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 30, 2019 05:33 PM (d7Ww2)

186 Meanwhile, Not-Slow-Enough Joe has made some other dumbass statements lately: Quoting one of the instapundit guys: "The New Hotness? Biden Obliviously Tells Press that Fossil Fuel Execs Should Be Jailed...."

It was posted about 1:45; I'll let one of the Smart People work out a tinyurl link. I have to get back to work, the curse of the blogging class.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, trying not to be Unemployed in Greenland at December 30, 2019 05:33 PM (Clxcy)

187 Recently some septuagenarian had an unholstered .22 in his backpack fire in a Provo church.

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and decisions were made putting us all at risk...hard to be "a lamb to the slaughter"

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 30, 2019 05:33 PM (lpCmy)

188 Depends who he was hanging with in prison if you ask me.
Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:30 PM (BcjRN)

Leave Jeffrey Epstein and Aaron Hernandez out of this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:33 PM (r4PDB)

189 simplemind, true the Vatican has an armory. But as I understand it they're all still wearing a 1600s uniform with tights too, so no one takes them very seriously. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:33 PM (L2ZTs)

190 Don't forget the Cleveland Occupy/Antifa cell that got arrested for trying to blow up a highway bridge with what they thought was a semi full of plastic explosive.

Not that I defend occupy or anything but that was one of those FBI entrapment things wasn't it?

"Hey guys, lets blow up a highway bridge! We can fill a truck with bombs!"
"uh, what?"
"It will totally strike a blow against capitalism!"
"I dunno, sounds bad"
"We need to take it to the next level!!"
"I mean, we don't even have a truck"
"I know a guy!"
"And how would we get that many explosives?"
"I know another guy!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:33 PM (KZzsI)

191 171 I heard an interesting point on the radio this morning. All of the guns belonging to the security team have been confiscated and will be held for 10 days. This requires the church to have a whole new security team in place. My thought was just use another gun but for some reason that is not the case.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (cgIyZ)

This doesn't make a lick of sense.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 30, 2019 05:33 PM (NWiLs)

192 Once again Biden is a retard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2019 05:34 PM (y7DUB)

193 @171 my guess is not everyone has multiple carry pieces.

My guess also is Wilson has several.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2019 05:34 PM (ZfRYq)

194 garrett, glad you're here! I was asking about you last night. Hope you had a great Christmas.

I wanted to ask, do you have any SACDs? What do you think of them, if you do? Are they worth it?

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:34 PM (L2ZTs)

195 Jack Wilson posted on FB an anti impeachment meme.

The woke mob will come for him.

Pro tip: Wear Body Armor.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 05:34 PM (bd376)

196
Once again Biden is a retard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2019 05:34 PM (y7DUB)

I wonder if he's met Hunter's latest offspring.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 05:35 PM (ptqGC)

197 Cats is the movie musical no one asked for.

Apparently there are sections where the CGI is so lazy, that they never added the fur texture. Ran out of time and money.

The skintight catsuits and fur and makeup was part of what made it so interesting. Why they felt they had to screw up that iconic look and turn to CGI I will never understand. If you are doing that much CGI, just make them animated cats.

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2019 05:35 PM (hvf9s)

198 my guess is not everyone has multiple carry pieces.

Well with all those boating accidents who does?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:35 PM (KZzsI)

199 rickb223, I'll be rich once I invent a kevlar unitard

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:35 PM (L2ZTs)

200 Instead of illegally in possession of a weapon while taking pics of the refinery the shooter had burned a gay pride flag, the church shooting would have never happened.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 30, 2019 05:35 PM (CCNCh)

201 Enemies of the people.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 30, 2019 05:35 PM (3mywF)

202 This requires the church to have a whole new security team in place.

It looked like they might do ok with the parishoners they have. (crap, how is that misspelled?)

Posted by: t-bird at December 30, 2019 05:35 PM (QrTqV)

203 @198 true, true

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2019 05:35 PM (ZfRYq)

204 LizLem, yup. Might have worked better as a straight cartoon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (L2ZTs)

205 Pro tip: Wear Body Armor.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 05:34 PM (bd376)
___________

That won't stop Jack. He is pretty good with head shots.

Posted by: tommylotto at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (dYinJ)

206 This thread is like cats chasing laser dots.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (ptqGC)

207 "The church also had a well rehearsed plan. I counted 5 people with guns responding from various parts of the church. That's not accidental.

The one security guard who was killed seemed to hesitate. Never hesitate folks. "

There were actually seven congregants who drew down on the perp, including an elderly woman. They all had good form too.

Our former pastor carried in the pulpit. He was not having anyone come into his church to take lives, when he was working so hard to get them saved.

Posted by: Moki at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (mFoNl)

208 Creepy Joe isn't a Catholic. Neither is Pelosi.

Both reject Catholic doctrine. That's demonstrably.

They might call themselves Catholic. But that would be a fraud. To be a Catholic you must follow church doctrine. All of it. It's not a Chinese menu.

BTW On that menu there is no choice for baby murder or homosexual marriage.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (NzPBq)

209 111 Are they still blaming Trump for the machete attack in NY?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2019 05:22 PM (6XlcD)
-------------------------------
Yes, they are.

Well, except for Joe Biden!
He's blaming those 5 deaths on Gov. Abbott for expanding gun rights in Texas.
At least that's what he seems to be saying in the video above.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (M/9m0)

210 Nurse/Insom, didn't make any sense to me either.

I can see Mr. Wilson's gun maybe but not the others.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (cgIyZ)

211 Yo Stevie -
I am not a CD / SACD fan. Too much cost to get a proper front end to handle that, too!

I know a bunch of guys who are and really do love them, but even they admit it is an affectation and are mostly into High Res.

Christmas was pretty chill up here. Hope you had a fun one in Cali.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (BcjRN)

212

remember TEST TUBE BABIES?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (CMrar)

213 I wonder what gift Slo Joe sent his new grandchild for Christmas. Somebody should ask him.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (r+sAi)

214 Once again Biden is a retard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2019 05:34 PM (y7DUB)

I wonder if he's met Hunter's latest offspring.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 05:35 PM (ptqGC)

It might be that Hunter's only contribution to humanity will be forcing dear old dad into oblivion.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 30, 2019 05:37 PM (eAMlh)

215 Posted by: All That Jazz at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (9miVc)

All That Jazz had Sandahl Bergman's tits. That ain't nothing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 30, 2019 05:37 PM (gd9RK)

216 The gun confiscation is probably for ballistics testing. Granted, some weren't even fired, but a homicide investigation probably requires all weapons to be tested.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 30, 2019 05:37 PM (C1Lsn)

217 I'll be rich once I invent a kevlar unitard

I have kevlar weave gloves to use with the mandoline after I left a piece of my finger in the salad. It doesn't look that sharp but dang.

No, a mandoline is not an instrument used in bluegrass. Its a slicer

https://www.amazon.com/Mandolines-Slicers-Graters-Peelers/b?node=289783

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:37 PM (KZzsI)

218 >>Pro tip: Wear Body Armor.

Kevlar Bible Covers

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:37 PM (BcjRN)

219 Did I just see Margarita DeVille?

Posted by: grammie winger at December 30, 2019 05:37 PM (lwiT4)

220 Don't forget the Cleveland Occupy/Antifa cell that got arrested for trying to blow up a highway bridge with what they thought was a semi full of plastic explosive.

Not that I defend occupy or anything but that was one of those FBI entrapment things wasn't it?

"Hey guys, lets blow up a highway bridge! We can fill a truck with bombs!"
"uh, what?"
"It will totally strike a blow against capitalism!"
"I dunno, sounds bad"
"We need to take it to the next level!!"
"I mean, we don't even have a truck"
"I know a guy!"
"And how would we get that many explosives?"
"I know another guy!"
=======
Yes it absolutely was.
However you left out the part where they parked the truck under the overpass, and then one of the guys pressed the button for the detonator and it doesn't go off. Because it wasn't real C4. But they thought it was real, and they meant to blow up the overpass. Which because of the overpass they chose, would have been unfixable for over a year and would have seriously screwed up travel if they had there way.

Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:37 PM (Z2o8G)

221 garrett, glad to hear and thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:37 PM (L2ZTs)

222 I don't know how effective body armor is against a shotgun. It might catch enough to make a difference or it may not. A shotgun at close range is a terrible thing.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 30, 2019 05:38 PM (0OmEj)

223 Batboy: The Musical was surprisingly entertaining.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:38 PM (9miVc)

224 It seems to me likely that the cops would impound all guns on scene until the investigation is done. They can rule out those unfired, and then identify the rounds that were expended.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2019 05:38 PM (ZfRYq)

225 Don't you worry, FBI is on it ... which means they probably have 50 guys and gals (plus at least two gal/guys for diversity purposes) back in DC right now filing FISA warrants on Trump staffers because some washed up Brit whispered in Bruce Ohr's ear, "It was the Russian's that done this church shootin' and they done it for Trump."

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at December 30, 2019 05:38 PM (hdzef)

226 This thread is like cats chasing laser dots.

right up a wall!

https://youtu.be/HjBHl1qcfa0

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:38 PM (KZzsI)

227 The Babylon Bee is approximating reality more each day.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 30, 2019 05:39 PM (H8QX8)

228 If you get interested in or take the dive into SACDs, let me know.

My buddy owns a yuge distributorship and he has so fucking many sealed OOP things in his collection that it is ridiculous.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:39 PM (BcjRN)

229
Kevlar Bible Covers
Posted by: garrett

You can get that on amazon for about a hundred bucks.

Posted by: Moki at December 30, 2019 05:39 PM (mFoNl)

230 The congregants also mostly ducked and covered. Very smart when you know a shooting team is in place. It gives them lines of fire and it's also only a matter of seconds before the shooting stops.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 05:39 PM (NzPBq)

231 I thought it was so that when you had a wreck, people would look for the baby.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:30 PM (9miVc)

I'm not a first responder, but I have been first on the scene of a gory fatal wreck, and even jacked to the eyeballs with the stress of the situation, I searched the entire car for other victims. The driver was obviously long gone (I only found out from news reports that it was a woman; I couldn't tell), and while struggling to open the bent passenger side door a little bloody hand reached up to the slightly cracked open window. I almost had a heart attack, but we got the kid out successfully, and he recovered.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:39 PM (r4PDB)

232 >>Its director noted that in the theater, the actors come out for a curtain call and you see they aren't dead. Not so for a film.

So his theory was that people who saw it in the theater really though the actors were dead?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2019 05:39 PM (ZLI7S)

233 I'll be rich once I invent a kevlar unitard
Sounds binding.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2019 05:40 PM (r+sAi)

234 garrett, could you email me his contact info? Thanks!
I'd like to collect some of them, not too many but a few.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:40 PM (L2ZTs)

235 I wonder what gift Slo Joe sent his new grandchild for Christmas. Somebody should ask him.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (r+sAi)

Sounds like a few people in New Hampshire are willing to ask him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 30, 2019 05:40 PM (y7DUB)

236 Guy, it'll feature a really nice and smooth PVC crotch ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:40 PM (L2ZTs)

237
What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:40 PM (CMrar)

238 > I heard an interesting point on the radio this morning. All of the guns belonging to the security team have been confiscated and will be held for 10 days. This requires the church to have a whole new security team in place. My thought was just use another gun but for some reason that is not the case.

This is actually pretty common. My dad and I have an agreement if one of us has to use a weapon defensively. The other person will lend a gun until their guns are returned.

Betcha some of the congregants will lend the security team a gun or two for an extended period.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:41 PM (i0wNm)

239 I'll be rich once I invent a kevlar unitard
Sounds binding.

Criticism just bounces off.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:41 PM (9miVc)

240 I heard an interesting point on the radio this morning. All of the guns belonging to the security team have been confiscated and will be held for 10 days. This requires the church to have a whole new security team in place. My thought was just use another gun but for some reason that is not the case.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (cgIyZ)

Which is one of many reasons why you book out of there (active shooting) if at all possible if it goes down.

Having the cops detain everyone in the area and rifle through your shit, possibly taken some of it, just adds insult to near injury.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 30, 2019 05:41 PM (1g7ch)

241 213
I wonder what gift Slo Joe sent his new grandchild for Christmas. Somebody should ask him.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (r+sAi)

A doll with leg hair. Gotta start trainin' 'em early.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 30, 2019 05:41 PM (1CjJc)

242 237
What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?

I want a DNA test

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2019 05:41 PM (6XlcD)

243

What the....??

First Responder Bowl?

Is this real?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:41 PM (CMrar)

244 181 I know Stanley Kubrick loved All That Jazz (the film).

So it must have something going for it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:32 PM (L2ZTs)

I love all that Jazz, still do. I consider it to be one of the last truly great Musical Films.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:41 PM (Kpl3J)

245 >>What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?

Depends on how you measure 'Womanhood'.

If it's a frmula accounting for length AND girth, I don't see how anyone else competes.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:42 PM (BcjRN)

246 Guy, it'll feature a really nice and smooth PVC crotch ;-)

"I'll take the Black Russian codpiece"
--Blackadder

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:42 PM (KZzsI)

247 What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?
======
*Gyrates head on neck*

Been there, done that!!

*snaps fingers*

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at December 30, 2019 05:42 PM (S2UVq)

248 The guy that shot the perp displayed practiced discipline. His demeanor and weapon control were textbook. One and done.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2019 05:42 PM (CDGwz)

249 This thread is like cats chasing laser dots.

right up a wall!

https://youtu.be/HjBHl1qcfa0

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:38 PM (KZzsI)

That kitten has skilz!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 05:42 PM (ptqGC)

250 Level iiia will stop 12 gauge at relatively close ranges. It will hurt. But you will live.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (NzPBq)

251 What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?

It was for potential.

Posted by: t-bird at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (OiC69)

252 219 Did I just see Margarita DeVille?
Posted by: grammie winger at December 30, 2019 05:37 PM (lwiT4)
--------------------
Indeed you did!

(I just took a much needed break from politics for a few months.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (M/9m0)

253 What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:40 PM (CMrar)

I thought it was "middle linebacker of the century."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (r4PDB)

254 What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?
======
*Gyrates head on neck*

Been there, done that!!

*snaps fingers*
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner
--------

Not seeing the problem.

Posted by: Bill Clinton, Father of the Year award winner at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (CDGwz)

255 Don't be surprised at the temporary confiscation. Whenever there's a shooting, police protocol has got to be followed for everyone involved, regardless of the circumstances.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (Kpl3J)

256 Posted by: Margarita DeVille

HEY !

Long time, no see !

Happy New Year !

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (arJlL)

257 I can't go into any grocery store and not see Mooch fake-smiling at me from the cover of some rag.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (ptqGC)

258 Yeah the vest stops the bullet from killing you, not from making you wish it had.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (KZzsI)

259 Easier to send me a list of albums/artists, stevie.

He is not nearly as organized as I am.

Most of his stuff is still in the original factory shipping boxes and on pallets in his warehouse...he has to have 2-3 shops worth of media.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (BcjRN)

260 Watched this video last night and at work today, and draw some conclusions. The first member of the congregation shot kept this evil bastard occupied until others could engage him. He died for his church family. The woman who recognized the killer wore a disguise should have said something immediately. Most of us damn sure would have (and might have stopped this before all the bloodshed). The member of the congregation who put a bullet in this evil bastard's head did some righteous shooting. And he wasted no words saying exactly what he did. He killed evil and it don't bother him too much. I suppose many of us here would feel the same way. As to being armed in church, I've said here before that next to my blood kin my church family are most precious to me. I will do everything in my power to protect them.

Posted by: Eromero at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (UUkQp)

261 I thought it was "middle linebacker of the century."

Xer's Sack Dance is frightening.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (9miVc)

262 > and decisions were made putting us all at risk...hard to be "a lamb to the slaughter"

This bothers me. A lot.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (i0wNm)

263 (I just took a much needed break from politics for a few months.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (M/9m0)

She's back! She's back! Missed you so much!!

Posted by: grammie winger at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (lwiT4)

264 IN game terms: the vest gives you resistant defenses so the Body damage is reduced, but you still take some and the stun damage isn't slowed down much.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (KZzsI)

265 (I just took a much needed break from politics for a few months.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (M/9m0)

Great to see you! I think 2020 is going to be fun.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (ptqGC)

266 I can't go into any grocery store and not see Mooch fake-smiling at me from the cover of some rag.
---------
not a fake smile

it's hungry

Posted by: predator 101 at December 30, 2019 05:45 PM (PefXD)

267 Sorry, how many times can Trump reach record approval at 50%

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2019 05:45 PM (ZfRYq)

268 261 I thought it was "middle linebacker of the century."

Xer's Sack Dance is frightening.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (9miVc)

Joe Theismann nods sadly.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:45 PM (r4PDB)

269 I already have the late-night infomercials for my kevlar unitard all scripted out.

"To PROVE how effective the QDP Industries Kevlar Unitard can be at protecting you from bullets and shrapne, yet how flexible and comfortable it isl, we hired a select team of fitness experts to wear them for a yoga class right in the middle of the no-man's land at Gaza Strip..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:45 PM (L2ZTs)

270
Depends on how you measure 'Womanhood'.

If it's a formula accounting for length AND girth, I don't see how anyone else competes.
Posted by: garrett
--------

Bonus points for 'Fisheye' hooker boots.

Posted by: Bill Clinton, Father of the Year award winner at December 30, 2019 05:45 PM (CDGwz)

271
Rachel Maddow Superfans - assemble!

Form of - a douche canoe!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2019 05:45 PM (pNxlR)

272 Rent

Also a mmusical. And equally awful.

Rent is Cats with AIDS.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2019 05:45 PM (Ki5SV)

273 In the right foreground of the video and elderly couple sat.
The lady's response was the quickest defense in the room and pulled her husband down with her.

Posted by: Chilly Dae at December 30, 2019 05:46 PM (pGnDm)

274 She's back! She's back! Missed you so much!!
Posted by: grammie winger

Great minds think alike !

Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 05:46 PM (arJlL)

275 Xer's Sack Dance is frightening.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (9miVc)

Once you've seen Mooch dancing with whatever it is between her legs swinging back and forth, you cannot un-see it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 05:46 PM (ptqGC)

276 255
Don't be surprised at the temporary confiscation. Whenever there's a
shooting, police protocol has got to be followed for everyone involved,
regardless of the circumstances.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:43 PM (Kpl3J)

Two is one, and one is none. Have two SD pieces, at least.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 30, 2019 05:46 PM (1CjJc)

277 Watched this video last night and at work today, and draw some conclusions. The first member of the congregation shot kept this evil bastard occupied until others could engage him. He died for his church family.

The woman who recognized the killer wore a disguise should have said something immediately.

Posted by: Eromero

Church security was already watching him because no one had ever seen him before.

Unfortunately, the cops take a dim view of being proactive and shooting first.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 05:46 PM (bd376)

278 garrett, will do thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:46 PM (L2ZTs)

279 I think my favorite musical is The Music Man, although Sound of Music has some great songs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:47 PM (KZzsI)

280 >>Rent is Cats with AIDS.

It really is. If only they could get AIDS to sing that awful Theme.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:47 PM (BcjRN)

281 > What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?

I've been a woman longer than Caitlin Jenner.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at December 30, 2019 05:47 PM (i0wNm)

282 I already have the late-night infomercials for my kevlar unitard all scripted out.

"To PROVE how effective the QDP Industries Kevlar Unitard can be at protecting you from bullets and shrapne, yet how flexible and comfortable it isl, we hired a select team of fitness experts to wear them for a yoga class right in the middle of the no-man's land at Gaza Strip..."
Posted by: qdpsteve

Snort.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 05:47 PM (bd376)

283 "To PROVE how effective the QDP Industries Kevlar Unitard can be at protecting you from bullets and shrapnel, yet how flexible and comfortable it is, we hired a select team of fitness experts to wear them for a yoga class right in the middle of the no-man's land at Gaza Strip..."
Posted by: qdpsteve
--------
"But, wait! Order now and we'll include this Kevlar codpiece. FREE SHIPPING!"

Posted by: Bill Clinton, Father of the Year award winner at December 30, 2019 05:48 PM (CDGwz)

284 Hiya JT!

Posted by: grammie winger at December 30, 2019 05:48 PM (lwiT4)

285 272 Rent

Also a mmusical. And equally awful.

Rent is Cats with AIDS.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2019 05:45 PM (Ki5SV)

Hamilton is the bastard child of Cats and 1776.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:48 PM (Kpl3J)

286 Bill Clinton, thanks for the tip!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:48 PM (L2ZTs)

287 To PROVE how effective the QDP Industries Kevlar Unitard can be at protecting you from bullets and shrapnel, yet how flexible and comfortable it is...

I figured at this point you were going to reveal Ace wearing one in a shooting range like Super Troopers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:48 PM (KZzsI)

288 Check-Out line magazines I always rearrange putting my favorite most prominent and Mike backwards on the bottom.

Posted by: Chilly Dae at December 30, 2019 05:48 PM (pGnDm)

289 I think my favorite musical is The Music Man, although Sound of Music has some great songs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:47 PM (KZzsI)

My Fair Lady, hands down.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 30, 2019 05:49 PM (lwiT4)

290 Our former pastor carried in the pulpit. He was not
having anyone come into his church to take lives, when he was working so
hard to get them saved.

Posted by: Moki at December 30, 2019 05:36 PM (mFoNl)

Great explanation! Which means I'm stealing it, of course.

Posted by: pookysgirl with four calling daughters at December 30, 2019 05:49 PM (XKZwp)

291 Xer's Sack Dance is frightening.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:44 PM (9miVc)

Once you've seen Mooch dancing with whatever it is between her legs swinging back and forth, you cannot un-see it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh
=========
Almost as good, when you she "her" children actually resemble "her" doctor and doctor's spouse more closely than "her" and oblabla.

Posted by: predator 101 at December 30, 2019 05:49 PM (lbGpl)

292 I've been a woman longer than Caitlin Jenner.
Posted by: Michelle Obama at December 30, 2019 05:47 PM (i0wNm)

Golf. Clap.

Posted by: tbodie at December 30, 2019 05:49 PM (nMj2X)

293
Camelot

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:49 PM (CMrar)

294 Christopher R Taylor, LOL... :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:50 PM (L2ZTs)

295 Little Shop of Horrors

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 05:50 PM (BcjRN)

296 I liked Camelot quite a bit, Lancelot's ego packed song is worth the price of admission

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:50 PM (KZzsI)

297 Is it just me or does anyone else have less than complete faith in the FBI handling this fairly and properly?

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2019 05:50 PM (xarPm)

298 Kinnunen also was arrested in September 2016 for possession of an illegal weapon in Linden, New Jersey, after he was found taking pictures outside an oil refinery, according to news reports at the time.
~~~~~

I worked at that refinery for about 5 years. Bayway Refinery. It was Exxon for about 100 years (and when I worked there,) but ownership got bounced around and I believe it is now Phillips 66.

The place is huge (as most refineries are) and surrounded by a chain link fence topped with barbed wire. There are a couple of guarded gates, but they are unarmed. And the barbed wire is fashioned so as to prevent escape-from rather than entrance-into the refinery.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 30, 2019 05:50 PM (sGotD)

299 oh my: Rueters screwed up the story and said the gunman perp was the one that owned a shooting range and gave lessons. They corrected it somewhere in the anal recess of the web.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (r+sAi)

300 For a more "modern" musical I liked Wicked

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (6XlcD)

301 Is this real about Mooch getting best first forever?

Posted by: Skip at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (ZCEU2)

302 Christopher R. Taylor @ 264- Mine is Angel Armor. The guy who founded this company is pretty cool. Read his story.

Posted by: Eromero at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (UUkQp)

303 Unfortunately, the cops take a dim view of being proactive and shooting first.

Wait until you're hit to deliver a proportionate response.

Posted by: t-bird at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (OiC69)

304 I've been a woman longer than Caitlin Jenner.
Posted by: Michelle Obama at December 30, 2019 05:47 PM (i0wNm)

But a less convincing one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (r4PDB)

305 Joe Biden has the kind of quick mind that has been missing from the Oval Office these last few years.

Posted by: Fat Tom Nichols at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (BRpqW)

306 Have you guys seen Michelle running down some stairs, adjusting her penis while it flops around like an AntiFa twerp getting tazed?

https://youtu.be/ZbSaCKonhAM

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (i0wNm)

307 Grease

...mostly because they never made Butter, the Musical.

Posted by: Marlon Brando at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (BcjRN)

308 It really is. If only they could get AIDS to sing that awful Theme.
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once again, team America World police was genius.

Gary was the star of the broadway aids play.

Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (msX7I)

309 Camelot

In short, there's simply not, a more congenial spot.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (9miVc)

310 Bill Clinton, thanks for the tip!
Posted by: qdpsteve
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/sock

Well, it was just a thought. I toyed with the idea of a Kevlar merkin, but such vulgarities are best reserved for the ONT.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2019 05:51 PM (CDGwz)

311 279 I think my favorite musical is The Music Man, although Sound of Music has some great songs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:47 PM (KZzsI)

I agree, Music Man just gets better and better to me over time. But I also must say that as to pure beauty of the music, Carousel is one of the best things Rogers and Hammerstein ever did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (Kpl3J)

312 Level IIIa will stop a 12ga if it catches it. There is more than a passing chance pellets will miss the armor and strike elsewhere like I said a 12ga is a hell of a thing. Granted close range patterns are tight but even then they expand ever bigger. A 12ga is a fight stopper for a reason. Not many people have walked away from a blast at close range. Better armored than not but still not 100%.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (0OmEj)

313 Mike Hammer, the Kevlar merkin will be advertised on the Logo channel :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (L2ZTs)

314 >>Have you guys seen Michelle running down some stairs, adjusting her penis while it flops around like an AntiFa twerp getting tazed?

Seared into my Spank Bank.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (BcjRN)

315 I hear Wicked is good, but I haven't seen it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (KZzsI)

316 Musicals? Did I step into the gay thread?

I mean, that's ok, I guess. But I'll just slither our against the wall.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (NzPBq)

317 315 I hear Wicked is good, but I haven't seen it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (KZzsI)

If you can you should

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (6XlcD)

318

....here
in...

Cam..

eLOT!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (CMrar)

319 What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:40 PM

I wouldn't exactly call him big.

Posted by: Michelle at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (CsIyd)

320 Hesco, it started with us discussing how awful the new Cats movie is :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (L2ZTs)

321
Cest Moi!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (CMrar)

322 Joe Biden taught me to shoot someone (doesn't matter who, evidently) through a door with a shotgun.

That man is a genius.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (jUVms)

323 More info on the shooter, from the MSM

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/353117/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (tT0V4)

324 Yeah, it's so fine to "see" you guys again.
I've missed you a lot.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (M/9m0)

325 My Fair Lady, hands down.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 30, 2019 05:49 PM (lwiT4)

Absolutely.

And Lerner kept going back to that well, as in Gigi and Lolita, My Love but could never capture the old magic. IMO, MFL was so much of a success because Lerner was basically transcribing Shaw's own script.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (Ki5SV)

326 Robert Goulet was da bomb.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:54 PM (L2ZTs)

327 I hear Wicked is good, but I haven't seen it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (KZzsI)

If you can you should
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Its extremely good. A lil bit woke but tis to be expected.

Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:54 PM (2lnWr)

328 In short, there's simply not, a more congenial spot.
Posted by: Grump928
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Pfft. Gary, Indiana.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2019 05:54 PM (xSo9G)

329 From the previous Holocaust she needs to be shown some pictures.

In my experience, the Holocaust deniers who don't believe Jews were targeted by the Nazis are pretty rare. Most of them dispute the 6,000,000 number with ahistorical and unscientific analysis of Germany's capacity to carry out the killings.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:04 PM (i0wNm)

----I bring this up because anybody raised by immigrants from Eastern Europe has had it drilled into them that Hitler killed 6 million Jews but also 6 million Eastern Europeans. It actually makes them angry that the number is always 6 million when it's closer to 12 million.

Posted by: Chillin the most at December 30, 2019 05:54 PM (lonOK)

330 > Golf. Clap.

*bows*

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 05:54 PM (i0wNm)

331 "Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (0OmEj)"

I once watched a guy take a shell from a Saiga 12 into level iiia armor. He lived. Did catch a few in other places. But he was already ugly

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 05:54 PM (NzPBq)

332 312
Level IIIa will stop a 12ga if it catches it. There is more than a
passing chance pellets will miss the armor and strike elsewhere like I
said a 12ga is a hell of a thing. Granted close range patterns are tight
but even then they expand ever bigger. A 12ga is a fight stopper for a
reason. Not many people have walked away from a blast at close range.
Better armored than not but still not 100%.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (0OmEj)
One would think a 12ga up close, armored up with Level IIIa, is still going to incapacitate someone even if briefly. There is a lot of energy behind those 9 balls coming at your center mass.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 30, 2019 05:55 PM (D3cJf)

333 The Muppet Movie

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 30, 2019 05:55 PM (8AONa)

334 Margarita, it's good to see you. I don't know if you're aware of it, but rickl passed away in early December (I think that's when it was). He used to ask if anyone had seen you lately, as he missed your comments. I thought you'd like to know that.

Posted by: bluebell at December 30, 2019 05:55 PM (TfsAD)

335 This guy should have been on FBI's radar since September 2016 and yet here we are. Oh, of course, the FBI were too busy framing candidate and then president Trump and anyone associated with him.

How can terrorism compete with that?

Posted by: Decaf at December 30, 2019 05:55 PM (xarPm)

336 Joe Biden taught me to shoot someone (doesn't matter who, evidently) through a door with a shotgun.

That man is a genius.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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One wonders how that would have worked out for Roger Stone.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2019 05:55 PM (xSo9G)

337 Have you guys seen Michelle running down some stairs, adjusting her penis

There is a college-era picture out there with Obama and his friend Michael Robinson. I don't know, could be...

Posted by: t-bird at December 30, 2019 05:55 PM (98WNR)

338 Coalition to Stop Gun Violence@CSGV
The @NRA's celebration of a church shootout is grotesque.

-
I guess the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence isn't interested in stopping gun violence.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 30, 2019 05:56 PM (+y/Ru)

339 "Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:53 PM (L2ZTs)"

Oh thank God. I love you people in a manly way. But I was getting worried.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 05:56 PM (NzPBq)

340 Wicked, ugh.

I hate that whole series of books. Everything has to have a fucking gritty backstory now. Can't leave Oz alone.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2019 05:56 PM (Ki5SV)

341 I saw Wicked, I liked what they did with the Wizard of Oz story. It was inventive.

maybe people will throw things, but I adore the soundtrack to Evita.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:56 PM (Kpl3J)

342 Robert Goulet was da bomb.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:54 PM (L2ZTs)
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"I feel a song coming on!"

Posted by: bluebell at December 30, 2019 05:56 PM (TfsAD)

343 Coalition to Stop Gun Violence@CSGV
The @NRA's celebration of a church shootout is grotesque.

-
I guess the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence isn't interested in stopping gun violence.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 30, 2019 05:56 PM (+y/Ru)

Blood Dancers gotta dance. Or in their case, roll around in it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 30, 2019 05:57 PM (9miVc)

344 ONLY INSANE PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE GUNS RAAWWK!

Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at December 30, 2019 05:58 PM (Tnijr)

345 > Carousel is one of the best things Rogers and Hammerstein ever did.

Renew! Renew!

Posted by: Jenny Agutter's Fabulous Boobs at December 30, 2019 05:58 PM (i0wNm)

346 Don't be surprised at the temporary confiscation. Whenever there's a shooting, police protocol has got to be followed for everyone involved, regardless of the circumstances.
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Yeah ... I hear you, but viscerally know this is just BS. The bad guy is dead. What else is there to investigate? Nothing.

Everything else is bureaucratic nonsense. Leave people alone. Not everyone has multiple firearms, they are without the means of self-defense now.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 30, 2019 05:58 PM (tQASX)

347 If it's so dangerous and irrational to CCW in church, why aren't there some stories of these people dangerously and irrationally using their guns in church?

Because it doesn't happen, that's why.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis

Shibumi and I talk about this all the time. She regularly has attended a Catholic Church in the Greater Detroit Area (ahem..) and hopes that somebody conceals/carries there.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 30, 2019 05:59 PM (UmCSQ)

348 340 Wicked, ugh.

I hate that whole series of books. Everything has to have a fucking gritty backstory now. Can't leave Oz alone.

I saw the play and loved it so I read the books... Didn't like them nearly as much...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2019 05:59 PM (6XlcD)

349 My Fair Lady, hands down.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 30, 2019 05:49 PM (lwiT4)
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Grammie, it's playing at the Kennedy Center and we drove by there a couple weeks ago and saw the sign. I thought maybe we should go. I'm glad I didn't - they put in a drag queen scene! I will try to find the link for you.

Posted by: bluebell at December 30, 2019 05:59 PM (TfsAD)

350 It's foolish to dispute the 6 million number. With modern methods and an organized system, it's easy. Mao did 50 million at least, probably a lot more, and he didn't have to try very hard to do it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:59 PM (Kpl3J)

351 Media Disappointed To Learn Armed Citizen Stopped Mass Christian Shooting

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2019 05:59 PM (JFO2v)

352 I still break out "The King and I" dvd every once in a while.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2019 05:59 PM (cgIyZ)

353 Blood Dancers gotta dance. Or in their case, roll around in it.
Posted by: Grump928
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I was always vaguely suspicious of Leslie Gore.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2019 06:00 PM (CDGwz)

354 Heavy.com has him registered as no affiliation. My Life has him registered as a dem. Heavy also has info about him receiving food assistance from church, but speculates he was angry, because the church would not give him monetary assistance.

Heavy

https://tinyurl.com/wll3tco

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 30, 2019 06:00 PM (1CjJc)

355 MyLife

https://tinyurl.com/rbzrnco

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 30, 2019 06:00 PM (1CjJc)

356 334 Margarita, it's good to see you. I don't know if you're aware of it, but rickl passed away in early December (I think that's when it was). He used to ask if anyone had seen you lately, as he missed your comments. I thought you'd like to know that.
Posted by: bluebell at December 30, 2019 05:55 PM (TfsAD)
---------------------------------
I did see that he had passed away.
And now I am going to cry .... again.
Thanks for telling me that.
He was ......
Eh. I'm choking up.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 30, 2019 06:00 PM (M/9m0)

357 345 > Carousel is one of the best things Rogers and Hammerstein ever did.

Renew! Renew!
Posted by: Jenny Agutter's Fabulous Boobs at December 30, 2019 05:58 P

Logans Run was the remake of Carousel??

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2019 06:00 PM (JFO2v)

358

Flintstones are on. I hope this is an episode with Kazoo.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 06:00 PM (CMrar)

359 Musicals? Only one:
Ooooooooooklahoma!

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 30, 2019 06:01 PM (Lqy/e)

360 345 > Carousel is one of the best things Rogers and Hammerstein ever did.

Renew! Renew!
Posted by: Jenny Agutter's Fabulous Boobs at December 30, 2019 05:58 PM (i0wNm)

ok now that's good! It took me a second to latch onto it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 06:01 PM (Kpl3J)

361 350 It's foolish to dispute the 6 million number. With modern methods and an organized system, it's easy. Mao did 50 million at least, probably a lot more, and he didn't have to try very hard to do it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:59 PM (Kpl3J)

Roger that.

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at December 30, 2019 06:01 PM (ABjxW)

362 >>> What's this I'm hearing about obama's big ugly wife being awarded "woman" of the year?

Not Greta? Do they hate the planet?

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2019 06:01 PM (hvf9s)

363 > I hear Wicked is good, but I haven't seen it.

Have a listen to Defying Gravity, the show's centerpiece song:
https://youtu.be/Yf9Bt5WFZKs

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 06:01 PM (i0wNm)

364 Silly observation- Kinnunen sounds a lot like Cunanan, the name of another crazy killer

Posted by: Vmom's phone at December 30, 2019 06:01 PM (pi+pt)

365 Have a listen to Defying Gravity, the show's centerpiece song:
https://youtu.be/Yf9Bt5WFZKs

My favorite

Posted by: It's me donna at December 30, 2019 06:02 PM (6XlcD)

366 -
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I think my favorite musical is The Music Man, although Sound of Music has some great songs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:47 PM (KZzsI)

My Fair Lady, hands down.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 30, 2019 05:49 PM

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Were I the last man alive, kept from freezing by burning the last copies of movies, all of those would go before Team America, World Police. (this is offered just so everyone knows how to judge any of my other opinions)

Posted by: irright at December 30, 2019 06:02 PM (RVcmP)

367
November 22, 2019

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 06:02 PM (CMrar)

368 I was always vaguely suspicious of Leslie Gore.

She had a big nose

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 06:02 PM (arJlL)

369 It's easy to figure out. In the Christians versus the Lions battle, liberals are hoping the lions win over those icky Christians. They want lots of dead church goers and a piece of shit shooter they can lionize. They're pissed it's Christians 1, Liberal Shooter 0.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 06:02 PM (NzPBq)

370 Hopefully this is a link to the piece about the drag queen scene at the KenCen production of My Fair Lady:

https://tinyurl.com/wmbwn4z

(My apologies if it doesn't work. I'm on my phone.)

Posted by: bluebell at December 30, 2019 06:03 PM (TfsAD)

371 I love All That Jazz, still do. I consider it to be one of the last truly great Musical Films.
Posted by: Tom Servo

It's great and weird, at the same time.

I can understand Kubrick liking it, because he loved the surreal aspects of film making. A lot of it is dreams by Bob Fosse.
Roy Scheider should have gotten an Oscar for that performance.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 30, 2019 06:03 PM (UmCSQ)

372 When the shit hits the fan, I want the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence to have my back.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 30, 2019 06:03 PM (+y/Ru)

373 >>I can understand Kubrick liking it, because he loved the surreal aspects of film making. A lot of it is dreams by Bob Fosse.

**Jazz Hands**

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 06:04 PM (BcjRN)

374 369 It's easy to figure out. In the Christians versus the Lions battle, liberals are hoping the lions win over those icky Christians. They want lots of dead church goers and a piece of shit shooter they can lionize. They're pissed it's Christians 1, Liberal Shooter 0.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 06:02 PM (NzPBq)

They'd be really pissed if they read the Bible and saw the spoiler at the end.

Posted by: Roy at December 30, 2019 06:04 PM (ABjxW)

375 I understand, Margarita. I get sad thinking about him too and I know we are not alone.

Posted by: bluebell at December 30, 2019 06:04 PM (TfsAD)

376 >>> Rent is Cats with AIDS.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 30, 2019 05:45 PM (Ki5SV)

Hamilton is the bastard child of Cats and 1776.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:48 PM (Kpl3J)

Les Mis and 1776. Supposedly he was heavily inspired by the former.

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2019 06:04 PM (hvf9s)

377 Everytown Gun Safety noted that since Chic Fil A took off Sundays so should concealed carriers.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2019 06:04 PM (JFO2v)

378 354 Heavy.com has him registered as no affiliation. My Life has him registered as a dem. Heavy also has info about him receiving food assistance from church, but speculates he was angry, because the church would not give him monetary assistance.
Heavy

https://tinyurl.com/wll3tco
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 30, 2019 06:00 PM (1CjJc)

That tracks with mental illness. He lashes out and attacks the people who helped him, because they won't help him even more. They gave him food, no doubt he wanted the cash for drugs (which is why you don't give out cash)

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 06:04 PM (Kpl3J)

379 A lot of it is dreams by Bob Fosse.
Roy Scheider should have gotten an Oscar for that performance.

Who got the Oscar instead ?

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 06:05 PM (arJlL)

380 They're pissed it's Christians 1, Liberal Shooter 0.

They would have loved to have taken our guns away to save us from that madman.

Posted by: t-bird at December 30, 2019 06:05 PM (lK7fO)

381
Fake News did one of their Let's Remember Who Passed This Year things.

I was like, who gives a shit. I didnt know those people. Anderson Cooper's mother?? Means nothing to me.

We lost Rick. That means something. We knew him.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 06:06 PM (CMrar)

382 > Logans Run was the remake of Carousel??

Carousel was the event in Logan's Run with all the people floating into a giant bug zapper, convinced they were competing for a chance at reincarnation.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 06:06 PM (i0wNm)

383 The only opinion that really matters with regard to any issue is Bill Kristol's. He's never stubbornly holding onto ridiculous biases and is never self serving.

What does Bill think about congregants protecting themselves?

/sarc

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 30, 2019 06:06 PM (jUVms)

384 6 million
50 million

Pikers!! Pol Pot killed over a third of his countrymen to get things right. Progress is bloody.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2019 06:06 PM (JFO2v)

385 A lot of it is dreams by Bob Fosse.
Roy Scheider should have gotten an Oscar for that performance.

Who got the Oscar instead ?
Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 06:05 PM (arJlL)

Too lazy to look, but my guess is Joe Don Baker.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Purveyor of Locally Sourced artisinal Hogwash at December 30, 2019 06:06 PM (xPJvm)

386 Watching the neighbors shoot skeet.
It's a clown show.
Either she is gonna pelt him in the head with one of them or he is going to shoot her by mistake.

Not a lot of gun safety going on over there.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 06:07 PM (BcjRN)

387 Everytown Gun Safety noted that since Chic Fil A took off Sundays so should concealed carriers.
Posted by: rhennigantx
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Uh, one would think that they might suggest that criminals take the day off. I'd bet that never even crossed their mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2019 06:07 PM (xSo9G)

388
When the shooter fell, his legs stuck up in the air, making a "V," which is a known white supremacist sign meaning "Victory for the White Race."

The gas that escaped his intestines immediately afterward was an obvious allusion to Nazi death camps, hence the coordinated attack in the Bronx.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 30, 2019 06:07 PM (Id1HH)

389 382 > Logans Run was the remake of Carousel??

Carousel was the event in Logan's Run with all the people floating into a giant bug zapper, convinced they were competing for a chance at reincarnation.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 06:06 PM (i0wNm)

And people were encouraged to escape as they needed protein!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2019 06:08 PM (JFO2v)

390 386 Watching the neighbors shoot skeet.
It's a clown show.
Either she is gonna pelt him in the head with one of them or he is going to shoot her by mistake.

Not a lot of gun safety going on over there.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 06:07 PM (BcjRN)

To complete the fun, they need to take a shot of Jack each time someone misses.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 06:08 PM (Kpl3J)

391 Rashida Tlaib is blaming PDT for attacks on Jews.

I have no words.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 06:09 PM (ptqGC)

392 "Come From Away" is pretty good (I am not much of a theater person)
Interesting story about interactions between passengers and locals when all the transatlantic flights got diverted to Canada's airport on 9/11.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 30, 2019 06:09 PM (8AONa)

393 Dunno if anyone cares, but the A Christmas Story musical, if you can see the original, is charming. Was lucky enough to see it on stage.

Hollywood did a live TV version this year for the holidays. Half the actors can't sing, and they SJW'd a few of the scenes like the Chinese restaurant. Made all the Chinese singers ivy league college students home for the holidays with perfect enunciation. Because of course.

Matthew Broderick was the narrator and was boring. Stage version so much better.

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2019 06:09 PM (hvf9s)

394
Favorite musical was Fiddler on the Roof in Dallas (think it was with Theodore Bikel).

Musical I would most like to see-
The Most Happy Fella -Frank Loesser.

Posted by: Glenn John at December 30, 2019 06:09 PM (LilNs)

395
Of course that was because we got seats in the third row, to the right, and just in front of us there was this chorus line dancer. She didn't have any lines, but she was BUILT, and she was in this shiny skin tight brown and white striped bodysuit, and she WORKED it, oh did she ever! And when I say skin tight, I mean Skin Tight! And that's about all I remember about Cats.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 05:27 PM (Kpl3J)

Are you sure you aren't misremembering that time you were at "Skanks", the "gentlemen's club" out by the airport?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2019 06:09 PM (pNxlR)

396 Who got the Oscar instead ?
Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 06:05 PM (arJlL)

Too lazy to look, but my guess is Joe Don Baker.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Purveyor of Locally Sourced artisinal Hogwash at December 30, 2019 06:06 PM (xPJvm)

It was Chuck Norris! In THE OCTAGON!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 06:10 PM (Kpl3J)

397 ...now that she has lost a good 80% of her hearing, she has moved back and is standing next to the shooter.

Instead of 20 feet in front of him.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 06:10 PM (BcjRN)

398 I blame Tlaib for attacks on Jews too.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2019 06:10 PM (cgIyZ)

399 387 Everytown Gun Safety noted that since Chic Fil A took off Sundays so should concealed carriers.
Posted by: rhennigantx
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Uh, one would think that they might suggest that criminals take the day off. I'd bet that never even crossed their mind.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2019 06:07 PM (xSo9G)

Only time crime takes a day off is when criminals are dead or in jail.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2019 06:10 PM (JFO2v)

400 To complete the fun, they need to take a shot of Jack each time someone misses.

Otherwise known as Alabama gun safety rules.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Impeach the Democrat Traitors Instead at December 30, 2019 06:10 PM (HaL55)

401 Off the top of my head, the only mass shooter in recent memory who was not well known by the police and/or mental health professionals was Vegas Tiny Dick, yes?

I am convinced that the reason that we have not learned his motivation is that his sole motivation was to kill as many people as he could. I think that because it is the most terrifying. Normal appearing guy. Doesn't have a history of anything. Decides hey I'm going killy. You can't screen for that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 30, 2019 06:10 PM (GbPPJ)

402 Ben Had, I hope you had a wonderful Christmas.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 06:11 PM (ptqGC)

403 Coalition to Stop Gun Violence@CSGV
The @NRA's celebration of a church shootout is grotesque.

As opposed to activist grifters miffed at the obvious effective use of a gun in the defense of 100 innocent people.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 30, 2019 06:11 PM (Gz7dA)

404 > Watching the neighbors shoot skeet.
It's a clown show.
Either she is gonna pelt him in the head with one of them or he is going to shoot her by mistake.

> Not a lot of gun safety going on over there.

Are they cops?

The worst range violations I've seen were all by cops cramming for their once a year quals.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 06:11 PM (i0wNm)

405 A lot of it is dreams by Bob Fosse.
Roy Scheider should have gotten an Oscar for that performance.

Who got the Oscar instead ?
Posted by: JT

Scheider was nominated, but Jane Fonda and Jon Voight got best Actress and Actor for "Coming Home". And tell me, when was the last time you watched that movie? And it is now obscure as Hell.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 30, 2019 06:11 PM (UmCSQ)

406 Are you sure you aren't misremembering that time you were at "Skanks", the "gentlemen's club" out by the airport?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2019 06:09 PM (pNxlR)

I tell you what, they know a thing or two about REAL entertainment!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 06:11 PM (Kpl3J)

407 "Not a lot of gun safety going on over there.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 06:07 PM (BcjRN) "

You're recording it for YouTube, err, safety lessons, right?

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 06:11 PM (NzPBq)

408 401

Vegas Tiny Dick was known!! It was a goat fuck. One day someone cop will speak up and say they knew it all!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2019 06:12 PM (JFO2v)

409 Who got the Oscar instead ?
Posted by: JT

Scheider was nominated, but Jane Fonda and Jon Voight got best Actress and Actor for "Coming Home". And tell me, when was the last time you watched that movie? And it is now obscure as Hell.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society

Thank you.

Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 06:13 PM (arJlL)

410 I tried to watch the trailer for 'cats' on the youtubes but couldn't get thru it. It was truly bizarre.

Long ago in a former life my wife and I saw "42nd Street" at the National Theater. I liked it, but I've always been a leg man, so... Probably the fanciest thing we ever did as a couple.

I don't have a pithy comment on the Texas church shooting, except to say that I see this shit and think America is coming apart at the seams.

Posted by: DB at December 30, 2019 06:13 PM (iTXRQ)

411 Jane Dear, I did but I kept thinking of you having to put up with the bitch and wishing that it didn't have to be so.

Made scones with red currants and the honey with them was incredible. Thank You again.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 30, 2019 06:14 PM (cgIyZ)

412 "Are they cops?

The worst range violations I've seen were all by cops cramming for their once a year quals.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 06:11 PM (i0wNm)"

You've never seen Pfc's fresh out of OSUT downrange, have you.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 30, 2019 06:14 PM (NzPBq)

413 405 A lot of it is dreams by Bob Fosse.
Roy Scheider should have gotten an Oscar for that performance.

Who got the Oscar instead ?
Posted by: JT

Scheider was nominated, but Jane Fonda and Jon Voight got best Actress and Actor for "Coming Home". And tell me, when was the last time you watched that movie? And it is now obscure as Hell.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 30, 2019 06:11 PM (UmCSQ)

Does not she end up sitting on his face??

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2019 06:14 PM (JFO2v)

414 I hear Wicked is good, but I haven't seen it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:52 PM (KZzsI)

If you can you should
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Its extremely good. A lil bit woke but tis to be expected.
Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:54 PM (2lnWr)
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I highly recommend it.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2019 06:15 PM (wiXsO)

415 That tracks with mental illness. He lashes out and attacks the people who helped him, because they won't help him even more. They gave him food, no doubt he wanted the cash for drugs (which is why you don't give out cash)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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A local charity which went out of its way, voluntarily, to help a pregnant female Vet, including providing an apartment, baby gifts, food, and, a car etc., was in turn vilified by said Vet, who filed a complaint with the SPLC, asking that the organization be labeled a 'Hate Group', because she felt that they provided more training programs to male Vets.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 30, 2019 06:15 PM (xSo9G)

416 I cannot figure out how they screwed it up so badly. The broadway run was forever, apparently its really entertaining. But they made it a bomb with creepy, bizarre CGI and makeup. What on earth???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 30, 2019 05:08 PM (KZzsI)

Goofy costumes work better when seen from the cheap seats rather than 35 foot high right in your face.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 30, 2019 06:15 PM (eoQWY)

417

noooood

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 30, 2019 06:15 PM (CMrar)

418 406 Are you sure you aren't misremembering that time you were at "Skanks", the "gentlemen's club" out by the airport?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2019 06:09 PM (pNxlR)

I tell you what, they know a thing or two about REAL entertainment!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 30, 2019 06:11 PM (Kpl3J)

*googles atm location that hands out singles*

So where is this??

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 30, 2019 06:16 PM (JFO2v)

419 > Vegas Tiny Dick was known!! It was a goat fuck. One day someone cop will speak up and say they knew it all!

I'm still pissed about that "investigation".

After a year of secrecy they basically tell us, "we didn't find anything interesting, nothing to see here, move along."

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 06:16 PM (i0wNm)

420 I don't have a pithy comment on the Texas church shooting, except to say that I see this shit and think America is coming apart at the seams.
Posted by: DB

The amount of actual gun violence has been declining for years, and the actual number of people killed by "mass shooters" is relatively small. That is no comfort if you know someone who is a victim of something that tragic.

But of course, our friends in the Media want to ramp up the fear factor to 11 to make gun control popular.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 30, 2019 06:16 PM (UmCSQ)

421 >>> A lot of it is dreams by Bob Fosse.
Roy Scheider should have gotten an Oscar for that performance. Who got the Oscar instead ?
Posted by: JT at December 30, 2019 06:05 PM (arJlL)

Looked it up... 52nd Academy Awards. Roy got beat out by Dustin Hoffman in Kramer vs Kramer.

Best picture nominees that year: Kramer vs Kramer (won), Apocalypse Now, All That Jazz, Norma Rae, Breaking Away.

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2019 06:17 PM (hvf9s)

422 Does relatively transient mean he was moving from one relative's couch to another relative's couch?
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 30, 2019 05:11 PM (eAMlh)

Here it seems to mean he was told to get the hell out of Texas/Oklahoma to avoid jail, so he went to Jersey where he was told to get the hell back to Texas to avoid jail.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 30, 2019 06:17 PM (eoQWY)

423 Best musical would be Die Hard.

You call me a cowboy and want me to suffer
Well, yippie ki-yay you motherfucker!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 30, 2019 06:17 PM (+y/Ru)

424 -
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Carousel was the event in Logan's Run with all the people floating into a
giant bug zapper, convinced they were competing for a chance at
reincarnation.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 30, 2019 06:06 PM (i0wNm)

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Perhaps you movie nerds can help me. I have a memory of a probably 70's era movie (and this, very possibly could be a puberty-powered dream I had) that had all the females wearing a kind of pillow on the back of their heads because of all the constant wham-bam sex that was had in this society. On second thought, that's almost certainly a puberty-powered dream I had. I just wish I could remember the whole thing.

Posted by: irright at December 30, 2019 06:18 PM (RVcmP)

425 401
Off the top of my head, the only mass shooter in recent memory who was
not well known by the police and/or mental health professionals was
Vegas Tiny Dick, yes?

I am convinced that the reason that we have not learned his
motivation is that his sole motivation was to kill as many people as he
could. I think that because it is the most terrifying. Normal
appearing guy. Doesn't have a history of anything. Decides hey I'm
going killy. You can't screen for that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 30, 2019 06:10 PM (GbPPJ)
I attended a C.R.A.S.E. course a year ago, and the instructor/cop kept referring the Vegas shooter as the outlier.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 30, 2019 06:19 PM (D3cJf)

426 >>> "Come From Away" is pretty good (I am not much of a theater person) Interesting story about interactions between passengers and locals when all the transatlantic flights got diverted to Canada's airport on 9/11. Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 30, 2019 06:09 PM (8AONa)

Agree it is very good! I realized a while ago that the youths are not learning real history anymore, and probably won't learn the real truth about 9/11. This is one of the few shows that covers it in a way that is entertaining and also educational. I hope it sticks around.

Posted by: LizLem at December 30, 2019 06:20 PM (hvf9s)

427 Rashida Tlaib is blaming PDT for attacks on Jews.

I have no words.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 30, 2019 06:09 PM (ptqGC)
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The MSM enables her to get away with such hypocrisy.
She has no shame.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 30, 2019 06:20 PM (wiXsO)

428 I am shocked, and remain so, that The Breakfast Club hasn't yet been adapted to a Broadway play.

Think about it: the film itself is very stagy. 95% takes place in *one* place... the high school library.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 30, 2019 05:26 PM (L2ZTs)

Too few characters, probably. Only 5 or 6.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 30, 2019 06:24 PM (eoQWY)

429 Ron DeSantis.

DeSantis/Grennell 2024

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2019 06:30 PM (ZfRYq)

430 Vegas Tiny Dick was known!! It was a goat fuck. One day someone cop will speak up and say they knew it all!

I'm still pissed about that "investigation".

After a year of secrecy they basically tell us, "we didn't find anything interesting, nothing to see here, move along."
Posted by: bonhomme

Exactly. If he was an "outlier", he'd be investigated and talked about to this day as being so far outside the norm.

The fact that it went so dark and quiet so quick speaks volumes.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 30, 2019 06:31 PM (bd376)

431
Cats had a character named Mister Pissed Off At Me.

At least that's the way I heard it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 30, 2019 06:35 PM (pNxlR)

432 386 Watching the neighbors shoot skeet.
It's a clown show.
Either she is gonna pelt him in the head with one of them or he is going to shoot her by mistake.

Not a lot of gun safety going on over there.

Posted by: garrett at December 30, 2019 06:07 PM (BcjRN)

To complete the fun, they need to take a shot of Jack each time someone misses.

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Handed my baby sister a loaded 12 g and she immediately spun in a 360 with her finger on the trigger...haven't seen Grandpa move so fast in ages...

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 30, 2019 06:44 PM (lpCmy)

433 He was just crazy, as per usual.

https://tinyurl.com/Paranoid-violent

And fond of a good blaze.

Posted by: SarahW at December 30, 2019 08:42 PM (g1vnC)

434 I recomend that the criminal's severed head be displayed in front of the church on a stake to serve as a warning to others.

Posted by: Earth Pig at December 30, 2019 09:01 PM (lz4Mw)

435 Posted by: simplemind at December 30, 2019 05:31 PM (xtufX

See link one post above. He was a crazy firebug.

Posted by: SarahW at December 30, 2019 09:02 PM (g1vnC)

436 See link one post above. He was a crazy firebug.

And what's wrong with crazy firebugs?

Posted by: Donald Merwin Elbert at December 30, 2019 11:29 PM (9jl/W)

437 Musicals just plain suck.

Circa 1985, if you were in West Germany and were cursed with AFN, all they showed on Sunday afternoons for a time were musicals. Watching them as a young lad, I did not get them. Seriously. When going about my everyday life, do I break out into song about something I'm doing while a bunch of strangers start dancing in perfect choreography?

I remember being subject to West Side Story in HS, hearing the teacher gush almost to the point of orgasm about "oh, the choreography!!!" I was watching, thinking to myself "I don't get it."

Even better in HS was, the week before the end of that horrendous experience, my senior English class was subject to Grease, which was then subject (briefly, but my teacher - great guy - indulged my mischief) to my MSTing the thing.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 30, 2019 11:34 PM (9jl/W)

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