The Occasional Fishing, Hunting, Rugged Outdoors Thread, Camping Edition [Bandersnatch]

Welcome Piscators and Piscatrixes, Nimrods and Nimrettes, and Rough Riders of all genders to the current installment of the occasional fishing and hunting and other wholesome outdoorsness thread, Camping Edition.

Let’s start with some rules for camping. I learned a lot from the Mad Croatian, and one of the things he insisted on was that the first thing you do at camp is put up the overhead tarp. I did that in this picture and that was good because a gentle rain set in and the tarp protected the fire without getting all the smoke in our faces.

Note the ridiculous contraption on the right. It’s a tent cot. If there were real rules to camping I would ban it. I told Jon that a real tent only takes 10 or 15 minutes to put up and he said that’s 10 minutes he could be doing something more fun.

Now, what you bring and how you do things depends on what kind of camping you’re doing. There’s backpack camping, where you want everything as light and compact as possible. Canoe camping offers more room for stuff, but if you’re going multi-day what you have with you is finite so you have to pack thoughtfully. Car camping – that’s where you drive to the campground and don’t have to carry stuff far, not sleeping in your car like a damn hippie – affords more room for luxury and comfy things. For the purposes of this post I’m not considering sleeping in a camper to be camping.

This is the two little Banderlings on a canoe camping trip about twenty years ago. As you can see, a canoe offers enough storage to bring Moosie and Bearie. (Ah, kids. They’ve grown up to be utter disappointments).

Yes, this post is a little bit autobiographical because the point of the outdoors threads is Story Time. I tell some stories here, you tell some stories in the grey boxes.

Here’s a story. This is the Old Man of the Mountain.

It’s in New Hampshire, and being that my father was from New Hampshire I considered it part of my heritage. Well, I did canoe camping trips with the Mad Croatian and his family for several years and the very first year we did it exhausted the children. They’d had sunburn and poison ivy and leech bites and a week of living outdoors, so when they were packed into the car for the ride home they fell deeply asleep.

We drove past the Old Man. I wanted to wake them and show it to them but they were so tired I thought, “that thing has been there for 12,000 years, I can show it to them next year”. That Winter the Old Man buckled and his face fell off the mountain. Oh well.

Now here’s a thing I would have considered cheating as a youngster, but darn they’re comfortable. If I’m car camping I am not shy about bringing an air mattress. I would rather sleep in a quiet place in a tent on an air mattress than in the best hotel there is. Also, if you bring a foot pump you can inflate your pie:

If you are buying a tent online, which is to say if you’re not standing in front of it when making the purchase, be aware that tent marketers are insane. They designate a tent as “two man” for people who are comfortable enough with each other to sleep head to foot, like sardines, and not roll over in their sleep. This says “2” right on it, but it’s a one man tent in real life:

Camp cooking is another thing that depends on the style of camping you’re doing and how much bulk you can carry. Some people, even when they have room in the canoe and options, insist on dehydrated camp food that prepares in a jiffy. I will go camping just as an excuse to make my favorite camp breakfast.

That’s potatoes, onions, and herbs, fried with cut-up bacon mixed in, and eggs.

If you camp in a pure Northern clime like New England you can pick blueberries while the kids are sleeping. I don’t know if people camp in the South.

Camping can be a serene solo experience where you contemplate life with only a fire, a bourbon, and your thoughts.

Or you can bring a friend.

And with that we move on to the raison d’etre of this here HQ, the comments section. Brickbats, praise, and fish brag pics are welcome at aoshqfish at sign gmail thing. I have a couple of fish pics in the inbox, they’ll go up the next time I actually talk about fishing.

Tonight’s outdoors thread is brought to you by Sears.

Posted by: CBD at 07:30 PM

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1 1?

Posted by: Don Q at December 28, 2019 07:33 PM (NgKpN)

2 Not first but since I don't belond here I'll go get them

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 07:35 PM (ZCEU2)

3 You would never know it by looking at the landscape around my house, but America's second biggest canyon is a short drive from here.

There are two state parks in that canyon system. One is Palo Duro, which is great, don't get me wrong, but I'd recommend its red-headed stepchild: Caprock Canyons, which is not far away.

I spent two nights there earlier this year camped out alone at a primitive campground, and by primitive, they mean it. There's just a simple outhouse out there, and that is all. I had the place to myself. I camped out in a backpacking tent which claims can hold two, but in fact was just big enough for me (which was fine). Best of all was that you could literally hear the silence out there, except at night, when the coyotes came out and made a nuisance of themselves.

That's really neat to do, you ask, but what is there to do out there? Hike, which I did a lot of. I took apart the north side of the park and that time of year there were few people, and less critters (like rattlesnakes) to contend with. It was a good 48 hours to unplug fully from civilization.

In fact I did quite a bit of hiking in the TX state parks this past year. Good times.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 28, 2019 07:38 PM (hER41)

4 Evening all!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2019 07:38 PM (Y4EXg)

5 Willowed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 28, 2019 07:38 PM (cfSRQ)

6 And yet, top 10!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 28, 2019 07:39 PM (cfSRQ)

7 Hat trick?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 28, 2019 07:39 PM (cfSRQ)

8 The friend in the tent looks a little sunburned.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2019 07:42 PM (5yoXS)

9 My camping story is that I used to camp quite a bit as a kid.

Then I outgrew it.

The end.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 28, 2019 07:42 PM (cfSRQ)

10 Tent camping is fun. As a kid we had this old army tent my parents bought at a surplus store. It was heavy as heck but when we were younger it fit 4 or 5 of us nicely. Never seemed to fail that when we went camping it either rained when we were putting that tent up, or taking it down.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 28, 2019 07:43 PM (Z/jzm)

11 Truth on the "two man" tent. Made that mistake...once.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 28, 2019 07:44 PM (EgshT)

12 I don’t know if people camp in the South.

Only uninformed Yankee interlopers camp in the South.

The skeeters will pick you up and carry you clear to Mexico.

Camping in a parking lot while waiting for the Likker store to open is different, and a fine way to make new friends.

Posted by: Miklos, at a comfortable distance from the Mason-Dixie Line at December 28, 2019 07:45 PM (QzkSJ)

13 Tents tall enough to stand up in are nice,

until the wind kicks up.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at December 28, 2019 07:45 PM (xmKbk)

14 Truth on the "two man" tent. Made that mistake...once.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 28, 2019 07:44 PM (EgshT)

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It holds two men if they are very small and very gay.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 28, 2019 07:45 PM (cfSRQ)

15 Hat trick is making First on 3 consecutive threads. Just saying..,

Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 07:45 PM (ESjBJ)

16 I'm more of a 'car camper' nowadays.

10 x 14 tent. Queen size air mattress. Sheets and blankets.

Used to do a lot of 'camp' type sword fighting events, and got used to my comfort.

But at least I'm not as bad as my Brother, who has the 32 Ft. long 5th wheel trailer.

Posted by: Don Q at December 28, 2019 07:45 PM (NgKpN)

17 Of course we camp in the south, CBD. Mrs. E and I have camped on lots of rivers while whitewater kayaking or solo canoing. We camped out of Mr. BigTruck or our van The Family Truckster. We canoe-camped for 5 days at a time on the Sabine. We cooked turkey and dressing with all the trimmings in dutch ovens when we were caving in Arkansas, and did the same meal in a damn hurricane in Pensacola. Good times they were tenting it. Now we have 2 campers cause we are old and stiff.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 07:45 PM (UUkQp)

18 You don't know if people camp in the South? LOL

Come camp in the Okeefenokee, Yankee Boy!

I cannot even with you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 07:46 PM (ptqGC)

19 10 Tent camping is fun. As a kid we had this old army tent my parents bought at a surplus store. It was heavy as heck but when we were younger it fit 4 or 5 of us nicely. Never seemed to fail that when we went camping it either rained when we were putting that tent up, or taking it down.
Posted by: My life is insanity at December 28, 2019 07:43 PM (Z/jzm)

Boy Scouts. We used to camp 1 weekend every month, in old style canvas pup tents.

Posted by: Don Q at December 28, 2019 07:47 PM (NgKpN)

20 Hat trick is making First on 3 consecutive threads. Just saying..,

Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 07:45 PM (ESjBJ)

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WHY MUST YOU STOMP ON MY DREAMS???

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 28, 2019 07:47 PM (cfSRQ)

21 I find I'm much more comfortable in a tent than out of one. Things dont tend to crawl into the sack when the tent is zipped up.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2019 07:47 PM (5yoXS)

22 Oh boy. Jane's blood is up.

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 28, 2019 07:47 PM (MHHCZ)

23 Thicc!

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 28, 2019 07:48 PM (zfhOa)

24 Our Scout troop canoed down the Edisto River in SC in a rain storm, and set up camp and managed to cook dinner.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 07:48 PM (ptqGC)

25 My blood's not up, I'm just amused.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 07:48 PM (ptqGC)

26 Marmot tent? Whats wrong with army surplus tent ?

Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 07:48 PM (ESjBJ)

27 The friend in the tent looks a little sunburned.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2019 07:42

I couldn't tell if it was real or a blow-up doll. NTTAWWT.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 28, 2019 07:49 PM (Dhht7)

28 Have the titanoboas and crocacondas moved into the Okefenokee yet?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 28, 2019 07:49 PM (Dc2NZ)

29 Our Scout troop canoed down the Edisto River in SC in a rain storm, and set up camp and managed to cook dinner.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 07:48 PM (ptqGC)

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Afterwards, the canoe overturned and I lost all my guns.

Oh wait, is this Saturday? Wrong thread.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 28, 2019 07:49 PM (cfSRQ)

30 My husband and I do one extreme or the other. Backpacking for 4-5 days or RVing. When we backpack we don't bring kids so there is that.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 28, 2019 07:50 PM (UUBmN)

31 My last 2 camping trips were by motorcycle, most recently to the Grand Canyon. You gotta pack really light and purchase some of your consumables along the way.

Got to see Moab, Monument Valley, the Grand Canyon and the Painted Desert.

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 07:51 PM (iTXRQ)

32 As a girl scout we camped, mostly in cabins. One time though we had platform tents. Not remembering what they were actually called, but a wooden deck-like platform that had canvas tent covering. It stormed like crazy the 1st night and the girls that didnt tie down the sides properly, learned quickly how to tie a secure knot to keep the tent in place!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 28, 2019 07:51 PM (Z/jzm)

33 Marmot tent? Whats wrong with army surplus tent ?
Posted by: runner

They're not as cheap as they used to be.

The Army uses more high-tech portable housing these days.

Posted by: Miklos, I was looking at a n 18x24 canvas model at December 28, 2019 07:51 PM (QzkSJ)

34 Tents tall enough to stand up in are nice,

until the wind kicks up.

Anybody else wake up in the middle of the night to a beautiful star-scape and realize the tent's gone?

Posted by: DaveA at December 28, 2019 07:51 PM (FhXTo)

35 You're not canoeing and camping, if there aren't gators, snakes, wild boar, and the occasional clueless Yankee begging for bug spray.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 07:52 PM (ptqGC)

36 Overhead tarp is a must. Which generally means you'll need lots of rope , surveyors twine and zip ties. We screw eye bolts into stout tree trunks and run one thick rope as a tarp header - also serves as a place to hang food and ice chests if bear are about. Bear get into everyting. They'll test bite anything in a camp including plastic gas containers.

Spook curious bears by smearing peanut butter on aerosol cans of non stick pan oil like Pam. They bite it, get scared and run away

Posted by: 13times at December 28, 2019 07:52 PM (K3B2k)

37
No word of a lie regarding stated sizes of tents ("N" persons).

"N-1" is the reality.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 07:52 PM (pNxlR)

38 And it appears OK coaches agree Jalen 'Hurts' and put in their backup qb with a threadwinner of a name, Spencer Rattler! Now that calls for a strong drink.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 07:53 PM (UUkQp)

39 Most of our camping is done in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area. Wilderness camping on the border with Canada. You can't take much stuff because you have to hump the canoes and the gear through tons of portages. Bugs, bears, and fish that have never seen a lure.

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 28, 2019 07:53 PM (MHHCZ)

40 Photo #9: Wood.

Posted by: Regular joe at December 28, 2019 07:54 PM (6/uwW)

41 Aintry? This river don't go to Aintry.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2019 07:54 PM (ZLI7S)

42 Also, if you bring a foot pump you can inflate your pie:

Or scrotum if you're camping on the West Coast.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 07:55 PM (rZgGg)

43
8 The friend in the tent looks a little sunburned.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2019 07:42 PM (5yoXS)

That's "Old Raw Hide" from A River Runs Through It.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 07:55 PM (pNxlR)

44 Aintry is not just a river in.., yeah, maybe not

Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 07:55 PM (ESjBJ)

45 I'm old enough now I no longer feel the need to camp. Last time I attended a Scout family camp out, the farting and snoring outside my tent kept me awake. Men. *sigh*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 07:55 PM (ptqGC)

46 Tip: all Croatians are mad

Posted by: the Butcher at December 28, 2019 07:56 PM (OonSC)

47 When we took our family trip to NE we wentg to see the Old Man of the Mountain in the only map in hand days of the early 70s, only kept searching for it thinking it was it only to be disappointed many times realizing it wasn't. Eventually we did find it.

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 07:56 PM (ZCEU2)

48 the farting and snoring

Camping ambiance!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 28, 2019 07:57 PM (EgshT)

49 >
46 Tip: all Croatians are mad
Posted by: the Butcher at December 28, 2019 07:56 PM (OonSC)

This has not been my experience. Catholic Croatian GF in HS. Awesome girl. Awesome family.

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 28, 2019 07:58 PM (MHHCZ)

50 This year, we're gonna do a ride to Rushmore and camp in the Custer National Park. Tent, sleeping bag, sleeping roll and whatever fits in an ALICE pack and a swing arm bag.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2019 07:58 PM (5yoXS)

51 Husband and son have done the Northern Tier (boundary waters), Philmont, NM, Sea Camp (FL Keys), and in August will hike and camp the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 07:59 PM (ptqGC)

52 I've camped many times in the South, with the Boy Scouts or otherwise, in zero to one hundred degree conditions, in places most people never get to go. It was sometimes painful and usually rewarding, My tent camping days are over now though, I got it out of my system. Nowadays we go in an RV.

Posted by: freaked at December 28, 2019 07:59 PM (Tnijr)

53 Hat trick is making First on 3 consecutive threads. Just saying..,
Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 07:45 PM

I consider 3 firsts in a day, 3 in a row, 5 in a row should be a straight.

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 07:59 PM (ZCEU2)

54 35 You're not canoeing and camping, if there aren't gators, snakes, wild boar, and the occasional clueless Yankee begging for bug spray.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 07:52 PM (ptqGC)

Yankees can't hide their disdain and hatred for Southerners, can they?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 28, 2019 07:59 PM (zfhOa)

55 I like camping fine, just not when it's 94/94 outside.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 28, 2019 07:59 PM (NWiLs)

56 What is an ALICE pack?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 08:00 PM (gd9RK)

57 first rule of camping: make sure the hotel has room service.

i'm not in the Army anymore, and i've had a lifetime of camping when i was young.

this old man cherishes his comforts.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 28, 2019 08:00 PM (D75ha)

58 40 Photo #9: Wood.
Posted by: Regular joe at December 28, 2019 07:54 PM (6/uwW)

Would sour after 24 hours.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 28, 2019 08:00 PM (zfhOa)

59 Saw the Old Man of the Mountain once. It was "Nice". Certainly not impressive enough to travel hundreds of miles for, but I'm glad I saw it. The image was only viewable if you were in one spot. Move this way or that and it was just some rocks.

I'm more impressed with people who find an outcropping at the side of the road and paint fish or shark faces on them. I've seen some that people have kept up for decades with touch up jobs.

Posted by: Groundhog at December 28, 2019 08:00 PM (VYwSh)

60 Our son learned other "camping" skills in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:01 PM (ptqGC)

61
... Sea Camp (FL Keys) ...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 07:59 PM

Sea Base, Jane.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 08:01 PM (pNxlR)

62 >>Yankees can't hide their disdain and hatred for Southerners, can they?

Well bless your heart.

If you need me to let you know what this really means let me know.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2019 08:01 PM (ZLI7S)

63 Back home now! Had some traffic on I-95 so the drive was an extra hour or so. All bueno.

Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2019 08:01 PM (MVjcR)

64 >>>"Anybody else wake up in the middle of the night to a beautiful star-scape and realize the tent's gone?"

No. But have had a tent collapse on me in 50-60 mph straight line winds. Before the rain started.

Cracked fiberglass tent poles in smaller gusts too.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at December 28, 2019 08:01 PM (xmKbk)

65 although Herself i went her for a few days away together, back when we did things like that, and it was *very* nice.

i did all the cooking outside on the fire ring.

https://elcapitancanyon.com/

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 28, 2019 08:01 PM (D75ha)

66 ALICE is an acronym for "All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment".

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 08:02 PM (rZgGg)

67 What is an ALICE pack?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Alcohol
Liquor
Ice
Coozee
plus Extra

Posted by: Miklos, preparado at December 28, 2019 08:02 PM (QzkSJ)

68 Where else *but* one's private woodland oasis would one give one's sunburnt thicc blow-up doll a trial run? Sire Bandersnatch is to be commended for his discretion.

Posted by: kallisto at December 28, 2019 08:02 PM (labbd)

69 When I was a kid we camped from Maine to Florida to W Va to Tennessee and Onterio. Got to see at least the eastern US.

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 08:03 PM (ZCEU2)

70 I don't do camping anymore unless you call sleeping in the back of the SUV camping. But I must admit there is nothing better than hot food prepared in a dutch oven in the hot coals of a camp fire.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2019 08:03 PM (Y4EXg)

71 What is an ALICE pack?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 08:00 PM (gd9RK)

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|a very awkward, inefficient way to carry things on your back...

you know it's a POS because the Army designed it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 28, 2019 08:03 PM (D75ha)

72 Dabo gittin it said.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:04 PM (UUkQp)

73 Got to see at least the eastern US.
Posted by: Skip

The one consistent thing was Pedro Sez

Posted by: Miklos, South of the Border at December 28, 2019 08:04 PM (QzkSJ)

74 Once was camping in October, outside of Madison. It was a beautiful day setting up, then the evening turned cold and windy. Raining when we fell asleep, woke up freezing to 3 inches of snow. Unforecasted, of course. That was....fun.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 28, 2019 08:05 PM (Z/jzm)

75 I always loved beach camping. From MD down through GA.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 28, 2019 08:05 PM (v089B)

76 >>>37 No word of a lie regarding stated sizes of tents ("N" persons).

"N-1" is the reality.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 07:52 PM (pNxlR)
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I divide by half.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at December 28, 2019 08:05 PM (xmKbk)

77 My husband hiked Machu Picchu 40 years ago, when you could still camp close by. He awoke before dawn one morning, and hiked to the peak above and watched the sun rise. Out of the mist below him, he watched a giant condor emerge. It was a magical moment he's never forgotten.

Now you have to reserve a spot to hike that peak for $75.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:06 PM (ptqGC)

78 ALICE packs were designed by chiropractors

Posted by: Jean at December 28, 2019 08:06 PM (B7KlG)

79 But I must admit there is nothing better than hot food prepared in a dutch oven in the hot coals of a camp fire.

I had a girlfriend who was a girl scout leader, whatever they call them. Madame? Anyway, she had this dutch oven cookbood that looked absolutely insane.

Put 12 briquettes under the oven and 7 on the lid, cook for 20 minutes. Bonkers, right? It worked perfectly.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 08:07 PM (gd9RK)

80
I'm in Order of the Arrow, Scouting's "honor society", where I usually serve as a guide for new members during our quarterly camping weekends. The rule for us -- the new members and me -- is to sleep in a bag under the stars on nothing more than a tarp. I could go into a tent for the second night, but I almost always don't so I can see the stars, moon and sky for a second evening running. Best camping experiences of the year, easily.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 08:09 PM (pNxlR)

81 Settling down for Clemson-OSU.

The Sooners looked so outclassed that I wonder if it will hurt them before the committee next year.

What was the winning caption for the Melania pic in the Chess/Dress Thread?

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 08:10 PM (oZuI0)

82 anyone here an SME on pull start small gas engines?

i was trying to fire up the log splinter, which hasn't been run since summer and, after pulling it a bunch of times, the rope went back in, only to not want to pull out again.

i can kinda get it to pull out, w/difficulty, by doing a long, hard, slow pull, and the engine turns over, but trying to pull start it is right out.

my guy won't be in until Monday, and i'd really like to bust up some more firewood.

thoughts?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 28, 2019 08:10 PM (D75ha)

83 I love camping, and have done a ton of backpacking all around Central and North America. My favorite times were with my dad, and some of the more memorable trips were in the middle of winter with an old pal who went on to become a Navy SEAL. Good times.

Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2019 08:10 PM (MVjcR)

84 Catch Thirty-Thr33 ...

i been all over the paloduro and it has its charm and great hiking and camping.
I went to tech.

if you are up to it, at the Guadalupe National Park sw of Lubbock its possible to hike up and down four of five of the highest peaks in Texas in one long day. Ok ,8750 ft is nothin like what other western states have but its a 16 or more hour hike w lots of up and down.

Then Big Bend is magnificent in its own way.
Primitive camping there means if you go #2 you first dig a hole deep enough say 8 inches min. Do your thing then bury well. No outhouse there.

Posted by: loneranger at December 28, 2019 08:10 PM (IADdX)

85 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 28, 2019 07:38 PM (hER41)

I have heard of Palo Duro, I'd like to go there. Thanks for your post.

Posted by: clutch at December 28, 2019 08:10 PM (+mbOC)

86 Dutch oven cake on the fire is awesome.
Any cake mix mixed up and poured in the dutch oven, add coals top and bottom and 20-30 minutes and bam.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 08:10 PM (rZgGg)

87 >>Put 12 briquettes under the oven and 7 on the lid, cook for 20 minutes. Bonkers, right? It worked perfectly.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 08:07 PM (gd9RK)

Buddy burner and vagabond stove for the win!!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 28, 2019 08:10 PM (Z/jzm)

88 although Herself i went her for a few days away together, back when we did things like that, and it was *very* nice.

i did all the cooking outside on the fire ring.

https://elcapitancanyon.com/
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 28, 2019 08:01 PM (D75ha)

El Capitan! I drove from San Diego to El Capitan to surf. I got there late so I slept in the car. Early in the evening after the sun was down and it was dark, they launched a rocket from Vandenburg. While it was dark at ground level, when the rocket got high enough to get into the sun its exhaust trail lit up against the black sky, very very cool.

The next morning the waves were 10 feet and wrapping around the point. It was the best day of surfing I had in my life. There's a soft place in my heart for El Capitan.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 28, 2019 08:11 PM (aS1PU)

89 Krebs, my husband is in Order of the Arrow as well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:11 PM (ptqGC)

90
ALICE packs were designed by chiropractors

Posted by: Jean at December 28, 2019 08:06 PM (B7KlG)
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this!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 28, 2019 08:11 PM (D75ha)

91 An ALICE pack is what we had before the Corps came out with the good stuff. It had a frame that was supposed to make it a little more stable for long hikes, but I dont have the frame. For using it on the scooter it just lashes to the sissy bar. It'll cary about 60-70 pounds fully loaded.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2019 08:11 PM (5yoXS)

92
Put 12 briquettes under the oven and 7 on the lid, cook for 20 minutes. Bonkers, right? It worked perfectly.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 08:07 PM (gd9RK)

Do not use the "match light" briquettes, as they burn faster and do not provide the heat the regular briquettes provide.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 08:11 PM (pNxlR)

93 I've camped at a Holiday Inn Express. I are smart.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 28, 2019 08:12 PM (Dhht7)

94 Raining catz n' dawgs here in ETEX. Took Pepper The Dog out to teetee (she licked out the bowl I had the fruitcake and Wild Turkey in) and I thought we could do the dutch oven thing and tent right under this shelter. Of course we'd have to move out the tractor and fuel cans and stuff.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:12 PM (UUkQp)

95 Si, the Paolo he is very the duro!

Posted by: Paolo at December 28, 2019 08:13 PM (NWiLs)

96 We camped for years with our kids until my husband said he wasn't going to sleep on the ground anymore. Thats when we bought our first travel trailer. Even after we bought it, our kids had their own tents, which they slept in until one night at Yellowstone when an elk ran through our campsite.

Posted by: Abby at December 28, 2019 08:13 PM (U41ue)

97 Krebs, my husband is in Order of the Arrow as well.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:11 PM (ptqGC)

Ha! I think i still remember the admonition and... the name of the order? the name of the ordeal?

Well anyway, it's three words.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 28, 2019 08:14 PM (t+qrx)

98 Yeah, I'll probably have more to say, but I can weigh in on this immediately; tent capacity figures must be divided be a minimum of 2. Divide by 4 is even better.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 28, 2019 08:14 PM (zlgJP)

99 Many moons ago we did a trekking/camping odyssey in the Collegiate Peaks, west of Buena Vista, CO. Incredible experience.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 28, 2019 08:14 PM (EgshT)

100 O-H!

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 08:14 PM (Z7lwY)

101 I sees the mug brag.

Also is the Marmot tent the one I used as a closet?

*this is to allow Bander to brag that, yes, he talked me into sleeping Outside*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 28, 2019 08:15 PM (GbPPJ)

102 Marmot tent? Whats wrong with army surplus tent ?

Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 07:48 PM (ESjBJ)

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not everyone likes to be miserable on purpose.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 28, 2019 08:15 PM (D75ha)

103 Watson ! The reason you see stars is someone stole the tent , said Holmes
Just the punchline

Posted by: Lord Percy etc at December 28, 2019 08:15 PM (V9ATq)

104 *this is to allow Bander to brag that, yes, he talked me into sleeping Outside*
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 28, 2019 08:15 PM (GbPPJ)

But that's where there are bears.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 28, 2019 08:16 PM (t+qrx)

105 Redc1c4 @ 82- pull the spark plug then try to turn it through, then drop a little gas in the cylinder and give it a snatch, if that don't work maybe you need to work on your recoil.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:16 PM (UUkQp)

106 80
I'm in Order of the Arrow, Scouting's "honor society", where I usually serve as a guide for new members during our quarterly camping weekends. The rule for us -- the new members and me -- is to sleep in a bag under the stars on nothing more than a tarp. I could go into a tent for the second night, but I almost always don't so I can see the stars, moon and sky for a second evening running. Best camping experiences of the year, easily.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 08:09 PM (pNxlR)

It was long ago, but what I remember of the induction weekend was a vow of silence and one meal. They provided 1 raw egg and one strike-anywhere match.

Many ended up eating theirs raw. Mine was half baked. Had a nice fire, though.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 28, 2019 08:17 PM (di1hb)

107 AtC, did he arrange for a horse to bite you as well?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:17 PM (ptqGC)

108 Marmot tent?

Putting the hair on the outside sheds the rain more effectively.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 08:17 PM (rZgGg)

109 35 You're not canoeing and camping, if there aren't gators, snakes, wild boar, and the occasional clueless Yankee begging for bug spray.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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How about camping in Montana at 17 degrees below zero? Makes getting out of the sleeping bag to start the fire a waiting game with your camping partner.

Posted by: Cosda at December 28, 2019 08:17 PM (vydhX)

110 I did camp plenty of times in a tent, traveling we had a small camper.
Have backpacked a few times on the Appalachian trail, once for a week getting through most of the Pa section.

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 08:18 PM (ZCEU2)

111 Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:16 PM (UUkQp)

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danke... i'll give that a shot tomorrow in the day light.

it's well past Beer:30 here today...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 28, 2019 08:18 PM (D75ha)

112 On one of our family vacations up to Maine my dad made sure to detour to see the Old Man of the MNountain. This was late 50s and I thought it was really neat. I haven't been back that way since and didn't know the rocks had fallen. Too bad. It was cool for a seven year old.

Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2019 08:18 PM (7EjX1)

113 Just gave a kid my old Kelty

from the mid 70's, still in great condition

Kept my old pocket gopher, same time period, it was like $500

and I've got a cool one man tent, looks like a long oil 1/2 of an oil barrel. From like 1980. You had to be in really good shape and skinny to use it

Posted by: REDACTED at December 28, 2019 08:19 PM (rpxSz)

114 log splitter you need to spray some pbblaster penetrant in there spring maybe rusted up, or take recoil starter off and check what else is binding, spider web or worse
lube is probably first step

Posted by: Lord Percy etc at December 28, 2019 08:21 PM (V9ATq)

115 Krebs, my husband is in Order of the Arrow as well.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:11 PM (ptqGC)

All of my Eagle Scouts went through OA. Great program. I don't know why more troops do do it.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 28, 2019 08:21 PM (377Zs)

116 100
O-H!

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 08:14 PM (Z7lwY)

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The Paolo, he always leave the big O.

Posted by: The Paolo at December 28, 2019 08:21 PM (cfSRQ)

117 Cosda, our son did the Crucible at Parris Island in 17 degrees, and wet.

Said the proudest day of his life was hiking nine miles back, wet, filthy, and freezing, and getting his Eagle, Globe and Anchor.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:21 PM (ptqGC)

118 Heh, funny that the Camping World Bowl was earlier today.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 08:22 PM (oZuI0)

119 Yes, Your Malevolence, the Marmot tent was your closet.

And no, Jane, I didn't arrange for her to get bit by the horse. Some things are just ordained.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 08:22 PM (gd9RK)

120 lube is probably first step

Posted by: Lord Percy

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Good advice for a host of problems actually.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2019 08:22 PM (Y4EXg)

121 Used to camp out a lot. Not so much anymore. Camped all over PA. The most beautiful spot I ever camped out was Montana, near Glacial NP.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 28, 2019 08:22 PM (ZaCfy)

122 Bandersnatch, I assume you know there is no escape after that comment.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:23 PM (ptqGC)

123 Can we talk about movies yet, or is that supposed to wait until later?

Sorry, I did the camping thing for years, I'm old and I like my own bed, dammit.

There's a reason I switched from Army to Air Force. Okay, lots of reasons, but "deploying" to a hotel rather than a tent was one of them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 28, 2019 08:23 PM (cfSRQ)

124 I'm on my first (prob only) Kraken of the night because 0400 Sunday comes at well...0400 tomorrow.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:24 PM (UUkQp)

125 Karen's - are you SF Bay Area Council?

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 28, 2019 08:24 PM (377Zs)

126 *Krebs*

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 28, 2019 08:24 PM (377Zs)

127 Been to Northern Tier for 12 days/nights in the Boundary Waters. Loved every bit but the mosquitos. One night didn't have a one and discovered spearmint was growing all around the campsite. Philmont is still on my bucket list. Even though my oldest just aged out, I am still hanging on as Scoutmaster for now... I've been doing it for 12 years and still love it.

(54 y.o. Eagle Scout father of two Eagles)

Posted by: ERF at December 28, 2019 08:24 PM (NxG7K)

128 But that's where there are bears.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 28, 2019 08:16 PM (t+qrx)

He chased the bears off.

And, yes, Jane, he arranged for me to get horse bit, he's not so much with being truthful otherwise.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 28, 2019 08:24 PM (GbPPJ)

129 Good advice for a host of problems actually.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2019 08:22 PM (Y4EXg)

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The Paolo, he know all about the lube, too.

It make the big O even bigger.

Posted by: The Paolo at December 28, 2019 08:25 PM (cfSRQ)

130 I love winter camping. The colder the better, so it's kind of like survival camping.

Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2019 08:25 PM (MVjcR)

131 I think the embarrassment the Suckeyes suffered three years ago vs. Clemson is still fresh and they're coming out guns blazing.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 08:25 PM (oZuI0)

132 >>How about camping in Montana at 17 degrees below zero? Makes getting out of the sleeping bag to start the fire a waiting game with your camping partner.

Or on the NH/Canada border in January in 4 feet of snow when you spend your entire 10 days on snowshoes and a couple random brown bears show up to check out your campsite when they should be sleeping.

That was entertaining.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2019 08:25 PM (ZLI7S)

133
The original name of the OA was not Order of the Arrow. That name would not be accepted as the public name for the Order until later. The Original name selected was Wimachtendienk Wingolauchsik Witahemui or WWW and was known as 'The Wimachtendienk'.

https://history.oa-bsa.org/node/3045

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 08:26 PM (pNxlR)

134 ERF, my husband is a 65 y.o. Scoutmaster and father to our only kid, an Eagle Scout and former USMC Corporal. He's been doing this for 18 1/2 years, and our son is an asset. Scout master, too.

I don't know when my husband will ever quit. He loves it so much.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:28 PM (ptqGC)

135
126 *Krebs*
Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 28, 2019 08:24 PM (377Zs)

DelMarVa, on the Delmarva Peninsula

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 08:28 PM (pNxlR)

136 Heh, first field goal of the CFP

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 08:29 PM (oZuI0)

137 Or on the NH/Canada border in January...

If I ever need an undocumented crossing there's a place in Pittsburg...

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 08:30 PM (gd9RK)

138 Just replaced the rope in my honda mower the other day and lubed the spring up with spray lithium grease as it was slow rewinding

Posted by: Lord Percy etc at December 28, 2019 08:30 PM (V9ATq)

139 My family tent camped a lot when we were growing up. It took me years to realize it was because we were poor, and could not afford even 1 motel room, let alone 3.

Lots of good times. And memorable bad times.

I told the story about a bear stealing a Kellogg's snack pack several years ago.

New story: We camped in Algonquin Provincial Park during Hurricane Agnus. The second time I had to bail out a tent. Lots of rain.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 08:31 PM (u82oZ)

140 I like the hiking, fishing aspect of camping. The set up and take down...and the ethos of "leave no trace" were a pain in the ass when I did my obligatory NOLS course.

Left to my own devices I had much more fun in the wilderness when it wasn't treated like a religious experience.

The Rockies were breathtaking, but I enjoy the Adirondaks and Presidential range in New Hampshire more.

..and river otters are better than the ocean dwellers..fight me.

Posted by: browndog at December 28, 2019 08:31 PM (gD6Ka)

141 Had 15 Varsity Scouts on a 30-miler hiking to Little Round Top above Carson Pass. Woke up to 30" of snow & 30mph winds. The Whisperlights barely worked. July10th a few years back. Beautiful though at 9590 ft. elevation.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 28, 2019 08:32 PM (377Zs)

142 Wimachtendienk Wingolauchsik Witahemui
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 08:26 PM (pNxlR)

That. That's what I remember. But I thought you weren't supposed to say it.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 28, 2019 08:32 PM (t+qrx)

143 DelMarVa. For when you miss your turn.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:32 PM (UUkQp)

144 PB Blaster is magic shit.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 28, 2019 08:33 PM (sWM8x)

145 That. That's what I remember. But I thought you weren't supposed to say it.
Posted by: hogmartin

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Whoopsi.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2019 08:33 PM (Y4EXg)

146 Pull spark plug from log splitter.

Posted by: klaftern at December 28, 2019 08:34 PM (RuIsu)

147 >>If I ever need an undocumented crossing there's a place in Pittsburg...

I wouldn't know about such things.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2019 08:35 PM (ZLI7S)

148 'Put the candle back.'

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:35 PM (UUkQp)

149 Whoopsi.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2019 08:33 PM (Y4EXg)

Nah, it's cool, I think that means we just have to initiate everyone on the thread with The Ordeal now.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 28, 2019 08:35 PM (t+qrx)

150 Posted by: redc1c4 at December 28, 2019 08:18 PM (D75ha)

Also you might want to pull the oil dipstick, check oil level, and smell it. If there is a gasoline smell, the carb float could be jammed open and could have flooded the cylinder making for a hard pull.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 28, 2019 08:35 PM (BiNEL)

151 Nah, it's cool, I think that means we just have to initiate everyone on the thread with The Ordeal now.
Posted by: hogmartin

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Since there are 'ettes here now, the spankings should be loads less weird.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2019 08:37 PM (Y4EXg)

152 Since there are 'ettes here now, the spankings should be loads less weird.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2019 08:37 PM (Y4EXg)

I was just thinking the same thing.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 28, 2019 08:37 PM (t+qrx)

153 My husband received the Silver Beaver award several years ago.

That title still makes me giggle.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:37 PM (ptqGC)

154 I love winter camping. The colder the better, so it's kind of like survival camping.
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2019 08:25 PM (MVjcR)

Oh Weasel, one week in the White Mountains in January cured me of that.

That and having to drive from the western side of the Adirondak Park to the remotest part of the eastern side to "rescue" college roommates who were attempting to spend the whole month of January in the High Peaks Region.

Damn fool fell into a creek and soaked his pack. Damn lucky they were near the Adirondak Loj.

Of course they were the ones who talked me into the week in New Hampshire...who's the bigger fool hmmm..

Posted by: browndog at December 28, 2019 08:38 PM (gD6Ka)

155 Never camped past fall, but plenty of crisp mornings in the fall.

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 08:38 PM (ZCEU2)

156
That. That's what I remember. But I thought you weren't supposed to say it.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 28, 2019 08:32 PM (t+qrx)

Nope. That was on a publicly accessible website. The OA isn't a secret society.

You ought not say the Admonition out loud or reveal it to others.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 08:39 PM (pNxlR)

157 153 My husband received the Silver Beaver award several years ago.

That title still makes me giggle.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:37 PM (ptqGC)

There's a joke in here somewhere about cougars but I am far too classy to make it.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 28, 2019 08:39 PM (NWiLs)

158 Silver Beaver, eh? So that's what they're calling it now.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:39 PM (UUkQp)

159
153 My husband received the Silver Beaver award several years ago.

That title still makes me giggle.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:37 PM (ptqGC)

The name is a hoot, but that honor is a significant one.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 08:41 PM (pNxlR)

160 Silver Beaver

yep

Posted by: pornhub at December 28, 2019 08:41 PM (rZgGg)

161 I got nothin'. *shrugs*

Posted by: The Silver Beaver at December 28, 2019 08:42 PM (EgshT)

162 got tossed from the BSA in 1963

selling hooch and fags

Posted by: REDACTED at December 28, 2019 08:42 PM (rpxSz)

163 Damn, TD Buckeyes.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 08:42 PM (oZuI0)

164 162 got tossed from the BSA in 1963

selling hooch and fags
Posted by: REDACTED at December 28, 2019 08:42 PM (rpxSz)

Now they're scoutmasters.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 28, 2019 08:43 PM (NWiLs)

165 153 My husband received the Silver Beaver award several years ago.

That title still makes me giggle.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:37 PM (ptqGC)

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That's nice, but it's not right that you make him think of it as an award.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 08:43 PM (XVuno)

166 My husband received the Silver Beaver award several years ago.

That title still makes me giggle.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2019 08:37 PM

Jane, over 2500 women have earned it also. At least through BSA.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 28, 2019 08:43 PM (377Zs)

167 WTG, Dobbins. Go Bucks.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 28, 2019 08:43 PM (EgshT)

168 163 Damn, TD Buckeyes.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 08:42 PM (oZuI0)

HA-ha

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 08:43 PM (Z7lwY)

169 logprof, Dabo gone read a few verses, it all gone be good.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:44 PM (UUkQp)

170 154 I love winter camping. The colder the better, so it's kind of like survival camping.
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2019 08:25 PM (MVjcR)

Oh Weasel, one week in the White Mountains in January cured me of that.

That and having to drive from the western side of the Adirondak Park to the remotest part of the eastern side to "rescue" college roommates who were attempting to spend the whole month of January in the High Peaks Region.

Damn fool fell into a creek and soaked his pack. Damn lucky they were near the Adirondak Loj.

Of course they were the ones who talked me into the week in New Hampshire...who's the bigger fool hmmm..
Posted by: browndog at December 28, 2019 08:38 PM (gD6Ka)
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There are few things better than being in a warm sleeping bag on a subzero night!

Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2019 08:44 PM (MVjcR)

171 153 My husband received the Silver Beaver award several years ago.

That title still makes me giggle.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

The Silver Sow is a superior award.

Posted by: Les Nesman at December 28, 2019 08:44 PM (ZaCfy)

172 Watch out for a guy who has the Oily Otter Award. Just sayin.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 08:44 PM (XVuno)

173 God, I miss camping.... when the kids were young,Id call home before I left the airbase,and the old missle casket would be outside,prepacked, and ready to go with tent,bags, cooking kit, etc.. A stop at the store for beer, steaks and ice, and 45 minutes later we were in National forest in the Santa Rita mountains south of Tucson. Pitch the tent, grab the .22, and go hike and shoot. Kids grown,one is disabled,no grandkids, and the wife refuses to sleep in a tent anymore. Guess I will have to do some solo backpacking when it warms up, and if I can get a damm day off........

Posted by: jason j at December 28, 2019 08:45 PM (qSQLQ)

174 Camping in New Hampshire is like camping in my back yard. I could run across the entire state in one day.

Posted by: Fritz at December 28, 2019 08:45 PM (zD38/)

175 Howdy, Horde and ThanX! Bandersnatch for the thread. I'll go read the contents and the comments here directly. But, let's talk back pack stoves. After literally years I have settled on the SoloStove as my backpack stove. Burns detritus and small sticks and can boil water at 6000 ft pretty quick. Small footprint, don't have to carry fuel and pretty lightweight. Discuss?

BRB. McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at December 28, 2019 08:45 PM (gMngZ)

176
. "I don't know if people camp in the South."

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Sometimes we just don't want to talk about it.

Posted by: Ned Beatty at December 28, 2019 08:46 PM (t5m5e)

177 Anyone else ever camped with bison roaming nearby? As in distances measured in hundreds of feet?

I've done that several times.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 08:46 PM (un8gM)

178

Surprise Silver Beaver Anal in 3...2...

Posted by: Tiffany James, Millennial SpokesXit at December 28, 2019 08:47 PM (NUyDU)

179 Hiking the Gila Wilderness in NM we got hail and rain both in the fall and spring. I much preferred the spring backpacking since there weren't any stickers. The thing about hiking Gila is the 100+ water crossings. Then the freezing overnight temps when your feet are wet.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 28, 2019 08:47 PM (UUBmN)

180 I think Ohio State wants to send a message that they shouldn't have lost the number 1 spot. That they played a tougher team in the championship in Wisconsin than LSU did in their conference.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 08:47 PM (Z7lwY)

181 >Anyone else ever camped with bison roaming nearby? As in distances measured in hundreds of feet?

No, but one time out in the San Rafael I had cows walk thru my campsite - probably not as exciting as tatonkas

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 08:50 PM (iTXRQ)

182 I think Ohio State wants to send a message that they shouldn't have lost the number 1 spot. That they played a tougher team in the championship in Wisconsin than LSU did in their conference.
Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 08:47 PM (Z7lwY)

LSU could have run it up to a hundred on Oklahoma if they wanted.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 28, 2019 08:50 PM (GbPPJ)

183 McGyver, we have a lot of older backpack stoves but I'm gettin one of those SoloStoves.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:51 PM (UUkQp)

184 TransCarrie 2020:

TransCarrie spends 95% of the film getting shit and offers of mental health assistance. Finally goes apeshit. Kids shelter in place. Active Shooter Entry Team assaults 7 minutes later and fill Carrie up with 29 rounds. of 7.62. The End.

Posted by: Tiffany James, Millennial SpokesXit at December 28, 2019 08:51 PM (NUyDU)

185 My camping days are long past (getting up from the ground is an 'interesting' event). But some of the best nights sleep I ever had was while camping as a kid, several times sleeping under the stars. The memory of those trips is still powerful half a century later. I don't know why I slept so well. Wish I could duplicate it.

Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2019 08:52 PM (7EjX1)

186 LSU could have run it up to a hundred on Oklahoma if they wanted.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 28, 2019 08:50 PM (GbPPJ)

Oh definitely. But when has a Big 12 team ever really been about defense?

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 08:53 PM (Z7lwY)

187 The ghost of Woody Hayes roams the sidelines looking to choke a Tiger.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:53 PM (UUkQp)

188 JetBoil is pretty awesome stove

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 08:53 PM (iTXRQ)

189 "Note the ridiculous contraption on the right. It's a tent cot. If
there were real rules to camping I would ban it. I told Jon that a real
tent only takes 10 or 15 minutes to put up and he said thats 10
minutes he could be doing something more fun"

A traditional tent is only really a sorta-OK option if you're backpacking it in, and honestly for backpacking I'd rather carry an ultra light hammock tent or a sil-nylon tarp/poncho and a bivy cover, depending on the weather.

Regular synthetic dome tents just aren't really good at any one particular thing compared to alternatives. Most of them are really just chinesium with half-ass designs.

If you're driving there - whether "car camping" or driving off road into the middle of nowhere, tents intended for use from vehicles are the way to go. The Australians really have this down with their "swags", with fast setup, built-in mattress pads, and treated canvas construction that's more durable and ember-resistant. They usually weight 25-30 lbs, but that doesn't matter when it's riding in the bed of your truck or on the roof rack.

I have slept in just about everything temporary there is to sleep in - all kinds of tents, bivys, hammocks, lean tos, holes in the ground, etc, and I haven't owned a traditional dome tent in a decade and probably will never buy another.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 28, 2019 08:54 PM (67XdO)

190

The ghost of Jerry Sandusky roams the sidelines looking to choke a chicken.

Posted by: Tiffany James, Millennial SpokesXit at December 28, 2019 08:54 PM (NUyDU)

191 Camped north of Huston, without a tent, just a sleeping bag. Girlfriend was supposed to bring the tent, but she did not.

Heard sticks breaking. Rustling. Closer, Closer.

Got my flashlight and knife ready.

Closer.

Turned on the flashlight. A big armadillo was looking right at me. I thrust with the knife in it's direction. He turned and ran away.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 08:55 PM (u82oZ)

192 LSU could have run it up to a hundred on Oklahoma if they wanted.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 28, 2019 08:50 PM (GbPPJ)

--Oklahoma getting pantsed by LSU that badly is about the most eloquent argument against expanding the CFP to eight teams there is.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 08:55 PM (oZuI0)

193
The ghost of Jerry Sandusky roams the sidelines looking to choke a chicken.

shh

Football is holy.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 08:56 PM (rZgGg)

194 buzzion

* cough cough *

Kansas State University.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 08:57 PM (u82oZ)

195

College football is acceptable, but subject to teasing and/or prosecution.

The NFL is Felonious, Gay, Communist and eats Bowels of Steaming Dogshit every Sunday by choice.

Posted by: Tiffany James, Millennial SpokesXit at December 28, 2019 08:58 PM (NUyDU)

196 Good eve...BOOTAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mmmmm mmm!!!

Posted by: Robert at December 28, 2019 08:59 PM (XVYfL)

197

"What is an Alice pack?"

One of those things I have two of. Good bit of room for being out there for a while stuff.

One with no frame I can wear over my web gear. It can be dropped if it gets "hot."
Other with a frame is a bit larger. It is to cache a good ways away if you have to leave the former.
I pray they never get used.

Posted by: teej at December 28, 2019 08:59 PM (PXKj8)

198 Go easy on Jerry Sandusky; he touched a lot of people.

Posted by: Jacko at December 28, 2019 08:59 PM (oZuI0)

199
Washington State is a fantastic place to live if you like the outdoors. Camping since a little kid.

Western Washington is nothing like Central or Eastern Washington, all are distinctly different climates and camping experiences. Western WA is well, Seattle drizzle wet that supports thick underbrush and trees (unless of course, it is a planned 3 day weekend, then it rains like hell about half the time).

Central WA is super dry, less than 10 inches of rain a year, and sagebrush, until the wine grape farmers tore much of it out to grow grapes, watered by massive pumping of Columbia River water into the desert growing area.

Eastern WA has pines and light underbrush, and is more like the midwest, weatherwise. Moderate mountains / woods in the north, and rolling hills (the Palouse - the wheat fields are mesmerizing).

Our family grew up boating in Puget Sound / San Juan Islands / Southern British Columbia. Combine the skills of mastering a marine environment with the enjoyment of camping. It's great. I learned camping skills when we anchored and rowed ashore, or moored at a dock of a marine state park, as well as salt water boating knowledge (tides, currents, wind in one direction, rollers coming from another direction, reading Coast Guard charts, how to anchor properly, lots of stuff). I read Chapman's Piloting and Seamanship cover to cover as a 12-13 year old.

The gift that God gave us when He created Washington state is one of the primary reasons I put up with the Leftist/Communist nonsense so prevalent in the Seattle area.

Another moron last summer asked about taking a cruise ship up the Columbia River. I knew some folks from Wisconsin that took the trip a few years ago, and they loved it. It covers all 3 climates in less than a week, while you enjoy the incredible scenery of the Columbia.

And you go right through the PacNW wine country.

I guess I got off track there, sorry about that.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 08:59 PM (sy5kK)

200 Late one night outside Corsicana I walked out to the horse trailer to take a leak. Found one and stood outside looking up at the stars while taking a leak. Very satisfying. Oh, I was supposed to go IN the trailer?

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 08:59 PM (UUkQp)

201 As to fishing, I just got a pack of Whiting Farms rooster capes in grizzly, dun, brown, and white. I'm going to try tying some dry fly patterns, something I've never attempted. I'm hoping for effective, not amusing, results.

Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2019 09:01 PM (7EjX1)

202 Turned on the flashlight. A big armadillo was looking right at me. I thrust with the knife in it's direction. He turned and ran away.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 08:55 PM (u82oZ)

you're lucky, that's a one way ticket to Kalaupapa

Posted by: REDACTED at December 28, 2019 09:01 PM (rpxSz)

203 Lin-duh,

We used to camp in the Gila way back when I was stationed at ft bliss. There's a dirt forest service road just the east side of the continental divide that runs due north into the wilderness. We would camp out 30 miles in on that road in June. Freakin' cold. Eastr weekend, our water froze solid in that same canyon in '89. Had a blown fuel filter in the 4x4, had to "rebuild" it five or six times to clear out the jets just to get back to hardtop. Good times and beautiful country. Miss it.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 28, 2019 09:02 PM (bIses)

204 Whiting Farms rooster capes in grizzly, dun, brown, and white

Has just read Teej's post about ALICE BOB and patrol packs and was trying to figure out what poncho camo pattern that was...

Posted by: Tiffany James, Millennial SpokesXit at December 28, 2019 09:02 PM (NUyDU)

205 REDACTED

I had no idea they carried leprosy.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 09:02 PM (u82oZ)

206 Kinda OT but you've got to admit, this is fishy.

Daily Mirror@DailyMirror
Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 28, 2019 09:03 PM (+y/Ru)

207 A foot pump?! Screw that, get a battery operated air pump. Coleman makes them. They are about the size of the four D size batteries that power them. They work fast, and you don't wear out your quads. And they deflate your air mattress just as fast, which is important if you are trying to pack out before the rain turns your tent into wet canvas.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at December 28, 2019 09:03 PM (0tmoY)

208 Oh, and since I wasn't around earlier, the best Northern Lights I ever saw (and I've seen a bunch of them) were at Lake Louise.

Wasn't camping, though.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:03 PM (un8gM)

209 Well that should break Eddie George's single season record.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:04 PM (Z7lwY)

210 I-O!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 28, 2019 09:04 PM (TdMsT)

211 In the 70's, I would go to place's like the Golden Trout Wilderness

Take a horse, a burro and my dog. It was a great time

kinda the lazy way to hike

Posted by: REDACTED at December 28, 2019 09:04 PM (rpxSz)

212 2 weeks at CYO camp back in 1969 cured me of all ideas that camping was fun.

Tried again in about 1975, thinking being older would make a difference. Nope. Sucked.

Tried again this past summer. In a tow behind camper (very basic, not an Airsteam or other nice one.) Sucked.

My idea of roughing it it is being in a hotel that does not have room service.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 28, 2019 09:04 PM (RfzVr)

213 210 I-O!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 28, 2019 09:04 PM (TdMsT)

Atta girl.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:05 PM (Z7lwY)

214 We liked to bring the queen size air mattress and sheets to put inside the double sleeping bag, because we were over 50 and there's no need to suffer while camping. The tent was big enough to allow a narrow space on one side. Tim used that to store his gas can (night pee can).

I had a battery operated lamp, because I like to read late into the night, while listening to the critters try to raid the pantry in the shelter.
At least 2 coolers - I used to freeze blocks of ice the week before, so they'd last through the weekend.
The art of camping is to bring what you'll use, and no more. Knives, a machete, a hammer, an ax. Fishing stuff, including the minnow trap. The canoe, and folding chairs and tables.
Tim had this down to a science. I still have his camping index cards somewhere. {{{Timmy}}}
Most importantly, as little electronics as possible. No phones or tunes. You're surrounded by birdsong, why would you want to ruin it with music?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 28, 2019 09:06 PM (NMAzL)

215 Buzzion!

Got some folks in to watch the BUCKEYES!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 28, 2019 09:06 PM (TdMsT)

216 Lotta Scouts, former Scouts and Scouters here. Our Troop does a 50 miler on the Smith River every few years. We're contemplating the Bob Marshall this year. Also, the Scouts make their own 27Fft Sea-capable kayaks every three years. The older Scouts did island hopping in the Straits of Juan deFuca couple years back and joined up with the rest of the troop at Camp Parsons on the Hood Canal.

McGyyer, out

Posted by: McGyver at December 28, 2019 09:07 PM (gMngZ)

217 Can we replace the tri-weekly fishing and hunting thread with a booty thread?

Actually, can we replace the movie thread with a weekly booty thread?

Fuck it! Let's go all out and replace the EMT, Morning Report, Art Thread, Gorilla Pundit AND the ONT with booty threads!

This is the way.

Posted by: Robert at December 28, 2019 09:07 PM (XVYfL)

218 Even after we bought it, our kids had their own tents, which they slept in until one night at Yellowstone when an elk ran through our campsite.
Posted by: Abby at December 28, 2019 08:13 PM (U41ue)

Yeah, especially when they get together to drink with Moose and Eagles, those Elks can be a pain.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 09:08 PM (sy5kK)

219 I have an MSR pocket rocket stove and Sawyer water filter for back country camping.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (UUBmN)

220 Latrines.

Know where to place them and why.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (Z+IKu)

221 BUCKEYES

Posted by: browndog at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (gD6Ka)

222 College football is acceptable, but subject to teasing and/or prosecution.

I learned tonight that as long as you have 50 years in football and are well paid for it, you can pretty much do whatever you want.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (rZgGg)

223

Do not fish for Brown Trout in the Detroit River.

Posted by: Tiffany James, Millennial SpokesXit at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (NUyDU)

224 Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (rZgGg)

You keep digging that hole and you're not gonna be able to get out.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:10 PM (Z7lwY)

225 TD OSU

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 09:10 PM (iTXRQ)

226 That's coming back.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:10 PM (Z7lwY)

227 Do not fish for Brown Trout in the Detroit River.
Posted by: Tiffany James, Millennial SpokesXit at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (NUyDU)

Those aren't trout.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 28, 2019 09:11 PM (aS1PU)

228 @177 Anyone else ever camped with bison roaming nearby? As in distances measured in hundreds of feet?

Moose. Out the "back gate" of Rocky Mountain you end up on a lovely high and dry plateau, with great fishing streams around the margins. Greatest moose-herd watching sites in the whole country. Not a lot of "inns," but lots of open-country campsites (not in the woods either). Having seen what moose can see of where they are standing and walking, I drove an extra hour or two into Wyoming to stay at a hunting lodge. If I'm going to get stomped by a small dinosaur, I want it to be on purpose.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 28, 2019 09:11 PM (oRpiG)

229 *gives McGyyer a dirty look*

The SoloStove "bonfire" (their fire-pit) is on sale through the end of the day tomorrow.

Still pricy, but still tempting...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 28, 2019 09:11 PM (0ReGO)

230 FVCK VIDEO REVIEW

Posted by: browndog at December 28, 2019 09:11 PM (gD6Ka)

231 Not digging a hole. Just absorbing your wisdom.

Guess the personal attack rule is selective.

Some commenters are more equal than others.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:12 PM (rZgGg)

232 Latrines.

Know where to place them and why.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

---

Whatever for?

Posted by: Sicker than hell UN troops at December 28, 2019 09:12 PM (Y4EXg)

233 Go BUCKS!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 28, 2019 09:12 PM (TdMsT)

234 205 REDACTED

I had no idea they carried leprosy.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 09:02 PM (u82oZ)

only if you have sex with one

and you didn't, right?

RIGHT ???

Posted by: REDACTED at December 28, 2019 09:12 PM (rpxSz)

235 230 FVCK VIDEO REVIEW

Posted by: browndog at December 28, 2019 09:11 PM (gD6Ka)

It goes for you sometimes. It goes against you sometimes. I'm fine with it.

Targeting is bullshit all around.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:12 PM (Z7lwY)

236 Okay, NOT a TD OSU

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 09:12 PM (iTXRQ)

237 Went canoe camping once.

Posted by: Ned Beatty at December 28, 2019 09:13 PM (l3+k2)

238 227 Do not fish for Brown Trout in the Detroit River.
Posted by: Tiffany James, Millennial SpokesXit at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (NUyDU)

Those aren't trout.
Posted by: DR.WTF

It's really just carp. They just call them trout. City folk.

Posted by: Puddlglum at December 28, 2019 09:13 PM (ZaCfy)

239

The guitar is for at night around the campfire, Miley.

Yeah, any more I like my big tent. 8X12 I believe.
6X8 would work now but I bought that one because at the time two queen air matresses was a must.

Gave a walkway between and room for coolers, guitar and such at the feet.
And I got here late so someone probably said it but if you're not armed 24/7 while camping, you're doing it wrong.

Posted by: teej at December 28, 2019 09:13 PM (PXKj8)

240 REDACTED

Armadillo is a terrible name for a girlfriend.

So I dodged a bullet.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 09:14 PM (u82oZ)

241 Tyson Fury in the house.

Posted by: Jacko at December 28, 2019 09:14 PM (oZuI0)

242 This is a good thread and we're all having fun but I was hoping to see some nostalgia for the Ted Williams series Sears rifle cleaning set.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 09:15 PM (gd9RK)

243 Bender, was that ATC in the tent?

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:15 PM (vqhGh)

244
Of any recent purchases that I have made for camping, acquiring a sleeping bag liner was money well spent. My Holubar down bag dates back to 1976 and I have no intention of replacing it.

I did get a summer weight bag six years ago, however.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:16 PM (pNxlR)

245 Okay, NOT a TD OSU

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 09:12 PM (iTXRQ)

ESPN is probably happy because of all the money they're spending to broadcast this game over multiple networks after the last one was a blowout in the 2nd quarter.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:16 PM (un8gM)

246 238 227 Do not fish for Brown Trout in the Detroit River.
Posted by: Tiffany James, Millennial SpokesXit at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (NUyDU)

they're crappie but if you marinate them in Tang, they're Betta

Posted by: REDACTED at December 28, 2019 09:16 PM (rpxSz)

247 Trump's fault!

A guy kills his wife and their two pets tweets President Trump, the War Turtle and the NRA saying that he couldn't have done it if he hadn't been able to get a gun.

https://dailym.ai/2rA3AbW

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 28, 2019 09:16 PM (+y/Ru)

248
"Nice marmot."

-- The Dude

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:17 PM (pNxlR)

249 /Wacko Jacko sock

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:17 PM (oZuI0)

250 I used to camp all the time as a kid. Boundry Waters, Lake of the Woods, Quetico Provincial Park, Great Sand Dunes, Grand Canyon, Baja California... I was a real outdoorsman. I miss it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 28, 2019 09:17 PM (LHgQG)

251 Dabo should have gone for it.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:17 PM (oZuI0)

252 So I dodged a bullet.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 09:14 PM (u82oZ)

snort

Posted by: REDACTED at December 28, 2019 09:18 PM (rpxSz)

253 Puddleglum - you misspelled crap. So, Jetboil and MSR and SoloStove (despite the "glare"). I'll stop back in later, gottta help with dinner

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at December 28, 2019 09:18 PM (gMngZ)

254 John Belushi overdosed at the Chateau Marmot. The marmots were cleared by investigators.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 09:18 PM (XVuno)

255 Since the CDT goes through Gila you get a bunch of thru hikers in the spring. Interesting people. They come from all over the world.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 28, 2019 09:18 PM (UUBmN)

256 Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 28, 2019 09:03 PM (+y/Ru)

Words. Do they mean anything?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:19 PM (ycWCI)

257 The marmots were cleared by investigators.

Of course. Marmots are some sort of weasel.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 09:19 PM (gd9RK)

258 At age 12 used to camp with my homeboy using a shelter half. 3 or 4 days out armed with a .22 rifle, a hatchet, couple of belt knives and a frying pan. It we didn't get a rabbit or some squirrels we had to steal a chicken.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 09:20 PM (UUkQp)

259 Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 28, 2019 09:03 PM (+y/Ru)

Words. Do they mean anything?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:19 PM (ycWCI)

-----------

It helps if you diagram it out.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 09:20 PM (XVuno)

260 >
243 Bender, was that ATC in the tent?
Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 0

Naw. Too tall

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (MHHCZ)

261 If I'm going to get stomped by a small dinosaur, I want it to be on purpose.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 28, 2019 09:11 PM (oRpiG)

------------------------------------

That'll be five bucks. Same as in town.

Posted by: A small dinosaur at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (CAJOC)

262 >>> 256 Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 28, 2019 09:03 PM (+y/Ru)

Words. Do they mean anything?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:19 PM (ycWCI)

Of course. They mean whatever we want them to.

Posted by: O'Brien at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (0ReGO)

263 It helps if you diagram it out.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 09:20 PM (XVuno)

You're going to need more yarn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (ycWCI)

264
Of course. Marmots are some sort of weasel.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 09:19 PM (gd9RK)
---
Weasels > Marmots

Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (MVjcR)

265 if you are up to it, at the Guadalupe National Park sw of Lubbock its possible to hike up and down four of five of the highest peaks in Texas in one long day. Ok ,8750 ft is nothin like what other western states have but its a 16 or more hour hike w lots of up and down.

Then Big Bend is magnificent in its own way.
Primitive camping there means if you go #2 you first dig a hole deep enough say 8 inches min. Do your thing then bury well. No outhouse there.

Posted by: loneranger at December 28, 2019 08:10 PM (IADdX)

I have this obsessive devotion to hiking in Big Bend. One day, it WILL BE MINE.

Guadalupe Nat'l Park sounds mighty nice as well. So many hikes, so little time...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (ZBf2T)

266
Winter camping is great fun. Eggs frozen in their shells ... inside the ice chest. Cooking oil turned to viscous congealed goo. Keeping warm becomes the reason d'etre.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (pNxlR)

267 Naw. Too tall
Posted by: Muad'dib at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (MHHCZ)

Also laying too flat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (ycWCI)

268 Naw. Too tall

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (MHHCZ)

Hairstyle is wrong too.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:22 PM (un8gM)

269
Tried again this past summer. In a tow behind camper (very basic, not an Airsteam or other nice one.) Sucked.

My idea of roughing it it is being in a hotel that does not have room service.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 28, 2019 09:04 PM (RfzVr)

We'll keep the light on for you!

Posted by: "I'm Tom Bodett for Motel 6, and we'll leave the light on for you." at December 28, 2019 09:22 PM (sy5kK)

270
268 Naw. Too tall

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 28, 2019 09:21 PM (MHHCZ)

Hairstyle is wrong too.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:22 PM (un8gM)

And there's not a crater where Bander used to be for posting the picture.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:22 PM (Z7lwY)

271 The Guadalupes and Big Bend takes planning because of the lack of water.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 28, 2019 09:23 PM (UUBmN)

272 And there's not a crater where Bander used to be for posting the picture.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:22 PM (Z7lwY)

That too.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:23 PM (un8gM)

273 My idea of roughing it it is being in a hotel that does not have room service.

---------

I draw the line at no valet parking.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 09:24 PM (XVuno)

274 256 Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 28, 2019 09:03 PM (+y/Ru)

Words. Do they mean anything?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

No. That's the point.

Posted by: Puddlglum at December 28, 2019 09:24 PM (ZaCfy)

275 Eggs frozen in their shells ... inside the ice chest.

Alien IX: The Igloo Menace

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:25 PM (rZgGg)

276 The last camping I did was in a Bedouin camp in the Jordanian desert about seven years ago. I only did it so I could say I did it.

I did it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 09:25 PM (XVuno)

277 Trump's fault!

A guy kills his wife and their two pets tweets President Trump, the War Turtle and the NRA saying that he couldn't have done it if he hadn't been able to get a gun.

https://dailym.ai/2rA3AbW
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 28, 2019 09:16 PM (+y/Ru)

Execute him - by firing squad.

Bastard shot a golden retriever, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2019 09:25 PM (cK+AV)

278
I learned tonight that as long as you have 50 years in football and are well paid for it, you can pretty much do whatever you want.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:09 PM (rZgGg)

The vote has been counted, and you are officially a jackass.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 09:26 PM (sy5kK)

279 LMAO thanks for the long shot of the Clemson Tiger.

He always looks stoned.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:26 PM (oZuI0)

280 The vote has been counted, and you are officially a jackass.[i/]

Know how you know that you won an argument?

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:26 PM (rZgGg)

281 On really cold nights we'd sleep with a water bottle inside our bags so we weren't dealing with a block of ice in the morning.

Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2019 09:27 PM (MVjcR)

282 Execute him - by firing squad.

Bastard shot a golden retriever, too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2019 09:25 PM (cK+AV)

A little too honorable. Hangman's noose.

Gibbeting is good too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:27 PM (ycWCI)

283
256 Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 28, 2019 09:03 PM (+y/Ru)

One fucked up child, coming right up!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:27 PM (pNxlR)

284 281 On really cold nights we'd sleep with a water bottle inside our bags so we weren't dealing with a block of ice in the morning.
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2019 09:27 PM (MVjcR)

'Water'. Right.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:28 PM (ycWCI)

285 279 LMAO thanks for the long shot of the Clemson Tiger.

He always looks stoned.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:26 PM (oZuI0)

He looks like you couldn't afford to buy the real mascot costume so you got the generic one.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:28 PM (Z7lwY)

286 Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor

Count the tentacles to see if it is healthy.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:28 PM (rZgGg)

287 242 This is a good thread and we're all having fun but I was hoping to see some nostalgia for the Ted Williams series Sears rifle cleaning set.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 09:15 PM (gd9RK)

Banner, I have and still use my Ted Williams cleaning kit.

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:29 PM (vqhGh)

288 A little too honorable. Hangman's noose.

Gibbeting is good too.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:27 PM (ycWCI)

True, but the poetic part of me likes shooting him, given a) his crime, and b) his excuse.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2019 09:29 PM (cK+AV)

289 We would sleep with our dalmatians inside the sleeping bags.

Posted by: Abby at December 28, 2019 09:30 PM (U41ue)

290 279 LMAO thanks for the long shot of the Clemson Tiger.

He always looks stoned.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:26 PM (oZuI0)

He looks like you couldn't afford to buy the real mascot costume so you got the generic one.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:28 PM (Z7lwY)

Then there's me.

Posted by: The Stanford Tree at December 28, 2019 09:30 PM (un8gM)

291 Bander, Thanks for the thread. There are a lot of nice memories included.

I do wonder how old that Sears rifle cleaning kit is.

Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2019 09:30 PM (7EjX1)

292 273 My idea of roughing it it is being in a hotel that does not have room service.

Mine is no one over 15

Posted by: Randy Andy at December 28, 2019 09:30 PM (rpxSz)

293 Banner, I have and still use my Ted Williams cleaning kit.
Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:29 PM (vqhGh)

Do you keep it in the freezer?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 28, 2019 09:30 PM (NWiLs)

294 280 The vote has been counted, and you are officially a jackass.[i/]

Know how you know that you won an argument?

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:26 PM (rZgGg)

Don't be the douchebag obsessing over the man the lost his daughter-in-law for 4 different threads?

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:30 PM (Z7lwY)

295 Banner, I have and still use my Ted Williams cleaning kit.

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:29 PM (vqhGh)

Fistbump! That picture is mine, which I still have and use.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 09:31 PM (gd9RK)

296 >>On really cold nights we'd sleep with a water bottle inside our bags so we weren't dealing with a block of ice in the morning.

We'd just melt some snow.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2019 09:31 PM (ZLI7S)

297
Our daughter got her nephew, our grandson, an inflatable T. rex "sumo" suit as his Christmas gift. I saw the video of him in it today - it was hilarious.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:31 PM (pNxlR)

298 Some commenters are more equal than others.

No, sometimes people need to realize when they should just stop, and go to bed. I am.

This has been carrying on over 3 threads? Hush. Why are you so angry about a stranger's decision in the face of a horrible trauma?

Posted by: cfo mom at December 28, 2019 09:31 PM (RfzVr)

299 um, who's obsessing again?...
yeah.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:31 PM (rZgGg)

300 289 We would sleep with our dalmatians inside the sleeping bags.
Posted by: Abby at December 28, 2019 09:30 PM (U41ue)

and ............

Posted by: Randy Andy at December 28, 2019 09:31 PM (rpxSz)

301 Why are you so angry about a stranger's decision in the face of a horrible trauma?

Posted by: cfo mom

who is angry?

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:32 PM (rZgGg)

302 One fucked up child, coming right up!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:27 PM (pNxlR)

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You have to break a few eggs to build a progressive utopia.

-- Pol Pot

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 09:33 PM (XVuno)

303 181 >Anyone else ever camped with bison roaming nearby? As in distances measured in hundreds of feet?

You can, at the Caprock Canyons State Park in TX. They maintain a bison herd there.

On the aforementioned hiking trip, I encountered a bison right on the trail, and I gave that bad boy plenty of room as I proceeded on that trail. They are bigger than me, you see.

Good to see the Scouts representing here. I was in Scouts in CO and that made for outstanding camping trips. When I left Boy Scouts (not by design really: one of the problems of being an Army Brat are the constant moves and Scouts fell by the wayside as I could not locate anyone who was into it) all I needed to get Star was my four months time requirement. I wasn't even 13. Still, it was good times.

Hence my putting together a bit of hiking gear for use on trails here, there and everywhere.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 28, 2019 09:33 PM (ZBf2T)

304 He looks like you couldn't afford to buy the real mascot costume so you got the generic one.
Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:28 PM (Z7lwY)

--Tru dat.

Remember Rufus the Bobcat fighting Brutus?

https://youtu.be/lZWvFmjEdDk

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:33 PM (oZuI0)

305 We would sleep with our dalmatians inside the sleeping bags.
Posted by: Abby at December 28, 2019 09:30 PM (U41ue)

Did anyone spot you doing it?

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:34 PM (vqhGh)

306
You have to break a few eggs to build a progressive utopia.

-- Pol Pot

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 09:33 PM (XVuno)

eggs = thousands of people.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:34 PM (Z7lwY)

307 I'm surprised that Ohio State is controlling the game against Clemson like we are watching so far.

Honestly thought it would be closer, but Clemson's defense has other ideas.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 09:34 PM (sy5kK)

308
I saw the Old Man of the Mountain feature in NH in the summer of '76. It was an underwhelming experience.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:34 PM (pNxlR)

309 Do you keep it in the freezer?

Insom, I knew I could count on you to pick up on that.

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:35 PM (vqhGh)

310 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 28, 2019 09:33 PM (ZBf2T)

Good to know.

My camping experiences were up in Canuckistan. Don't bother them, they won't bother you, watch your steps.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:36 PM (un8gM)

311 that's just mikey the G being mikey the G .. nothing new , dude's been doing this for ages .. cheers mikey .. negra modelo in your honor, dickweed.

Posted by: agua dulce at December 28, 2019 09:36 PM (1cxb+)

312 No Bison Bison, but cows once

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 09:36 PM (ZCEU2)

313 On really cold nights we'd sleep with a water bottle inside our bags so we weren't dealing with a block of ice in the morning.

We'd just melt some snow.M
=====

We bring woman

Posted by: Primordial man at December 28, 2019 09:37 PM (EmDt7)

314 Catch Thirty-Thr33

I hope you do them.
linduh...water and a few other essentials you should have.

My bucket list is to do those two plus yosemite and the long trail that goes from arkansa east to tennessee i think...cant recall the name of it but takes ten days or more to walk

Posted by: loneranger at December 28, 2019 09:37 PM (IADdX)

315
You have to break a few eggs to build a progressive utopia.
-- Pol Pot

You can now buy an Instant Pol Pot.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 28, 2019 09:37 PM (aKsyK)

316
--Tru dat.

Remember Rufus the Bobcat fighting Brutus?

https://youtu.be/lZWvFmjEdDk

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:33 PM (oZuI0)

Pretty funny.

I think it's Ohio University that would always have "riots" when Daylight Savings started because the college bars closed an hour early.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:37 PM (Z7lwY)

317 negra modelo in your honor, dickweed.

Y buenas fuckyous , hombre.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:38 PM (rZgGg)

318 You can now buy an Instant Pol Pot.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 28, 2019 09:37 PM (aKsyK)

Aka Elizabeth Warren

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:38 PM (ycWCI)

319 Husband wants to do Yosemite and Yellowstone.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 28, 2019 09:38 PM (UUBmN)

320 We bring woman
Posted by: Primordial man at December 28, 2019 09:37 PM (EmDt7)

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MOAR. WIMMEN!

Posted by: Neanderthal No. 3 at December 28, 2019 09:38 PM (XVuno)

321 280 The vote has been counted, and you are officially a jackass.[i/]

Know how you know that you won an argument?
Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:26 PM (rZgGg)

Dawg walks up to a deep hole.

Hello! ello! ello! ello! ello!

Geezuz, this clown keeps digging. That's getting to be one deep hole.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 09:39 PM (sy5kK)

322 Oops, Lawrence is down. Ouch.

Posted by: Puddlglum at December 28, 2019 09:39 PM (ZaCfy)

323 That's helmet to helmet.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 09:39 PM (UUkQp)

324 TARGETING

bullshit

Posted by: browndog at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (gD6Ka)

325
According Wikipedia, no college or university in the United States has a marmot as its mascot.

It is no wonder that we are on the edge of civilizational collapse.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (pNxlR)

326 My old boy scout troop is defunct since they sent the scout master, who was three years ahead of me, to the greybar hotel forever.

Guy was demented when he was a scout, never know how he got into a leadership position.

Posted by: not so at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (HALdu)

327 319 Husband wants to do Yosemite and Yellowstone.
Posted by: lin-duh

Kinky.

Posted by: Puddlglum at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (ZaCfy)

328 Best summer camping was by small sailboats to a neighboring island. Seagulls protesting all night long. Sky overhead brilliant with stars, spotting meteorites every few minutes.
Waking up soaking wet from the dew, covered with sand and mosquito bites.
Yup, good times.

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (vqhGh)

329 That hit on Lawrence looks really tough. Looks like he was knocked out for a second.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (sWM8x)

330 Targeting is bullshit all around. I'd say the same thing if it happened on Fields.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (Z7lwY)

331 Targeting? No way

Posted by: Abby at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (U41ue)

332 LSU v OSU will be a war.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (ndaq5)

333 The ghost of Woody Hayes.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (UUkQp)

334 314 Catch Thirty-Thr33

I hope you do them.
linduh...water and a few other essentials you should have.

My bucket list is to do those two plus yosemite and the long trail that goes from arkansa east to tennessee i think...cant recall the name of it but takes ten days or more to walk
Posted by: loneranger at December 28, 2019 09:37 PM (IADdX)

Water is also a consideration for Caprock Canyons. (I carried a 2.5 gal jug of water with me and had some large bottles of water for the hikes.) Where I was going there weren't exactly wells and water fountains, and this is west TX/the Panhandle, which, while things grow there, is still semi-arid.

And, because I am crazy (my friends and family love to say so), I want to hike the Appalachian Trail. The whole bloody thing. One day.

(I got a book on Big Bend at home and a trail map. I'm gonna pull it off at some point. Maybe 2020 is the year. Another factor: even where I am in TX, it is STILL a seven hour drive. Big Bend is a long way from anywhere. Which I think makes it worth it.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (ZBf2T)

335 Got me interested in what the Old Man of the Mountain or lack of it looks like today
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (ZCEU2)

336
My bucket list is to do those two plus yosemite and the long trail that goes from arkansa east to tennessee i think...cant recall the name of it but takes ten days or more to walk
Posted by: loneranger at December 28, 2019 09:37 PM (IADdX)

The Natchez Trace?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (pNxlR)

337 Ok, I will confess my ignorance: I looked them up and I did not realize that a marmot was a large, fat looking squirrel. Huh. For some reason, I thought they were more ferrety.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (ycWCI)

338 Two CFP games, two targeting ejections.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (oZuI0)

339 287 242 This is a good thread and we're all having fun but I was hoping to see some nostalgia for the Ted Williams series Sears rifle cleaning set.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 28, 2019 09:15 PM (gd9RK)

Banner, I have and still use my Ted Williams cleaning kit.
Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:29 PM (vqhGh)

Ted Williams fishing pole and reel for the win!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 09:42 PM (sy5kK)

340 The field conditions are trash. Players are on skates out there.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 28, 2019 09:42 PM (ndaq5)

341 When I went hiking, the was always an eel in my marmot

Posted by: REDACTED at December 28, 2019 09:42 PM (rpxSz)

342 Targeting is bullshit all around. I'd say the same thing if it happened on Fields.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (Z7lwY)

Respectfully disagree. My brothers both played football; helmet to helmet is dangerous. As are chop blocks.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:42 PM (un8gM)

343
335 Got me interested in what the Old Man of the Mountain or lack of it looks like today
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain
Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (ZCEU2)

He's fallen and he can't get up.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:42 PM (pNxlR)

344 337 Ok, I will confess my ignorance: I looked them up and I did not realize that a marmot was a large, fat looking squirrel. Huh. For some reason, I thought they were more ferrety.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (ycWCI)

Big Lebowski fan right?

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:43 PM (Z7lwY)

345 Husband wants to do Yosemite and Yellowstone.
Posted by: lin-duh

Kinky.
Posted by: Puddlglum at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (ZaCfy)

playboy does the national parks rangers.

Posted by: not so at December 28, 2019 09:43 PM (HALdu)

346 The rifle cleaning kit is very cool. We didn't have any gun stuff from Sears, but there is an Outters gun oil can from the late 6Os in the garage that I keep on the bench.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 28, 2019 09:43 PM (El6T/)

347 Hell of an effort. TD Clemson.

Posted by: Puddlglum at December 28, 2019 09:44 PM (ZaCfy)

348 TD, Tigers!

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 09:44 PM (UUkQp)

349 Clemson finally scores

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:44 PM (oZuI0)

350 Otter's gun oil?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 28, 2019 09:45 PM (aKsyK)

351 Who is the friend?

Posted by: not so at December 28, 2019 09:45 PM (HALdu)

352 Just got home
From Mass

LOVE LOVE LOVE camping!!!
Backpacking, car camping, canoe camping, bicycle camping and camping in the backyard.

Camping in the mountains, by a lake, on the beach or next to a river.

With friends, my kids, a lover or by myself.

Nothing better.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 28, 2019 09:45 PM (PkVlr)

353

Don't be the douchebag obsessing over the man the lost his daughter-in-law for 4 different threads?
Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:30 PM (Z7lwY)

We are now in trolling territory.

Sad, thought this guy was a moron. No, just a troll.

Wonder if he bunks with ramaindo?

And, which one is the wife?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 09:46 PM (sy5kK)

354 According Wikipedia, no college or university in the United States has a marmot as its mascot.

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And yet, the Banana Slug is the symbol of UC Irvine.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 09:46 PM (XVuno)

355 The poles simulating the old man are kinda funny.
I guess I saw it around 1972

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2019 09:46 PM (ZCEU2)

356 168
163 Damn, TD Buckeyes.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 08:42 PM (oZuI0)

HA-ha

Posted by: buzzion

/snerk

Touchdown Clemson.

and I thought you were dead or something...

Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at December 28, 2019 09:46 PM (qZdIZ)

357 Ok, I will confess my ignorance: I looked them up and I did not realize that a marmot was a large, fat looking squirrel. Huh. For some reason, I thought they were more ferrety.

======

They are all weasels.

Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 09:46 PM (EmDt7)

358
I see the Craftsman tool brand passed to Lowe's.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:46 PM (pNxlR)

359 342 Targeting is bullshit all around. I'd say the same thing if it happened on Fields.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (Z7lwY)

Respectfully disagree. My brothers both played football; helmet to helmet is dangerous. As are chop blocks.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:42 PM (un8gM)

So the helmet to helmet hit yes can be dangerous. The penalty and the way it is implemented is what I consider bullshit. Because things that are unintentional and completely out of control of the defensive player will draw the penalty, like him trying to turn and lower his head to make the tackle and avoid a helmet to helmet only to have the offensive player turn and cause it anyways.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:47 PM (Z7lwY)

360 Ok, I will confess my ignorance: I looked them up and I did not realize that a marmot was a large, fat looking squirrel. Huh. For some reason, I thought they were more ferrety.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:41 PM (ycWCI)

No worries. Marmotology is a journey of discovery for all of us.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 28, 2019 09:47 PM (t+qrx)

361 The Natchez Trace trail doesn't go through Arkansas that I see.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 28, 2019 09:47 PM (UUBmN)

362 361 The Natchez Trace trail doesn't go through Arkansas that I see.
Posted by: lin-duh at December 28, 2019 09:47 PM (UUBmN)

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It's probably for the best. Arkansas is infested with marmots and Clintons.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2019 09:49 PM (XVuno)

363 In my instance, inside the cardboard box was a flat copper-colored metal case. It has both .22 and .30 cal cleaning rods and various heads to go on them, then an open space for a box of patches, a bottle of Hoppes, and a little tube of grease.
That would have been around '62 or '63. Best Xmas present ever - single shot boltie .22. Still shoot it and it shoots well. Been cleaned hundreds of times.

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:49 PM (vqhGh)

364
On the positive side of team names, the Kingsford, MI teams are the Flivvers.

Yes, the Ford Motor Company once had a significant presence in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:49 PM (pNxlR)

365 324 TARGETING

bullshit
Posted by: browndog at December 28, 2019 09:40 PM (gD6Ka)

OSU #24 dipped his helmet to make first contact to Lawrence's helmet.

It's 2019, that is targeting.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 09:49 PM (sy5kK)

366 >>Best summer camping was by small sailboats to a neighboring island. Seagulls protesting all night long. Sky overhead brilliant with stars, spotting meteorites every few minutes.
Waking up soaking wet from the dew, covered with sand and mosquito bites.
Yup, good times.

Can confirm.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2019 09:49 PM (ZLI7S)

367 So the helmet to helmet hit yes can be
dangerous. The penalty and the way it is implemented is what I consider
bullshit. Because things that are unintentional and completely out of
control of the defensive player will draw the penalty, like him trying
to turn and lower his head to make the tackle and avoid a helmet to
helmet only to have the offensive player turn and cause it anyways.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:47 PM (Z7lwY)

OK, I agree. There are some clear cut calls, then there are the subjective ones.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:50 PM (un8gM)

368 Marmots have very few natural predators. In that they are similar to Chinese carp.

Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 09:51 PM (EmDt7)

369 On the positive side of team names, the Kingsford, MI teams are the Flivvers.

Yes, the Ford Motor Company once had a significant presence in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:49 PM (pNxlR)

Macon, GA used to have a minor league hockey team called the Whoopee.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:51 PM (un8gM)

370 lin-duh @ 361, Buffalo Trace meanders where it damn well pleases. Yo.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 09:52 PM (UUkQp)

371 Hope Dobbins is okay.

His story about being saved from abortion was inspiring.

Posted by: Schrodinger's mikeyG at December 28, 2019 09:52 PM (rZgGg)

372 If Clemson wins tonight, I predict the Tigers who play in Death Valley will win the championship game.

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:52 PM (oZuI0)

373 And yes, I'm of Croatian heritage, why do you ask?

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 28, 2019 09:52 PM (PkVlr)

374
Are the rest of you seeing ad after ad here with the photograph of the canned gelatinous goo that is sold nowadays as "cranberry sauce"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:53 PM (pNxlR)

375 Nurse,
I bet there is some gorgeous camping up where you are!

Posted by: lin-duh at December 28, 2019 09:53 PM (UUBmN)

376 OK, I agree. There are some clear cut calls, then there are the subjective ones.
Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:50 PM (un8gM)

Yup.....football is a meat grinder.

Let them play.

Posted by: Darryl Stingley at December 28, 2019 09:53 PM (Z+IKu)

377 374
Are the rest of you seeing ad after ad here with the photograph of the canned gelatinous goo that is sold nowadays as "cranberry sauce"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:53 PM (pNxlR)

I was seeing it the other day yes.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2019 09:53 PM (Z7lwY)

378 I'd venture to say more Southerners than Yankees go camping, CBD. Grew up doing it, myself.

Posted by: Beverly at December 28, 2019 09:54 PM (Lrwu7)

379 Are the rest of you seeing ad after ad here with the photograph of the canned gelatinous goo that is sold nowadays as "cranberry sauce"?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December

Uh, that is not cranberry sauce.

awkward.

Posted by: not so at December 28, 2019 09:54 PM (HALdu)

380 Are the rest of you seeing ad after ad here with the photograph of the canned gelatinous goo that is sold nowadays as "cranberry sauce"?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:53 PM (pNxlR)

Isn't the cranberry sauce you can cut in discs and retains the ridges of the cans the classic form?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 09:54 PM (ycWCI)

381 I still like the mascot for our new AA team--the Trash Pandas.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 28, 2019 09:54 PM (sWM8x)

382 Thanks linduh...ive only read about it maybe in natgeo or somewhere but thats the one.

Posted by: loneranger at December 28, 2019 09:54 PM (IADdX)

383 fun fact:

February 2 is "Marmot Day" in Alaska

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 09:54 PM (iTXRQ)

384 And Clemson has showed up. TD Tigers.

Posted by: Puddlglum at December 28, 2019 09:55 PM (ZaCfy)

385 The thing about southerners camping is it is hard to know when they are camping and when they are just home.

Posted by: not so at December 28, 2019 09:55 PM (HALdu)

386 Can confirm.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2019 09:49 PM (ZLI7S)

Penikese Island, JS.

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:55 PM (vqhGh)

387 Lawrence for a TD on legs.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 09:55 PM (UUkQp)

388 Holy shit what a TD

Posted by: logprof at December 28, 2019 09:55 PM (oZuI0)

389
Isn't the cranberry sauce you can cut in discs and retains the ridges of the cans the classic form?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

That is the photograph, yes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2019 09:55 PM (pNxlR)

390 The commentators on ESPN want Clemson to win so badly it's sickening.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 28, 2019 09:56 PM (TdMsT)

391 If the targeting rule was around 40 years ago in the NFL, nobody would know the name Jack Tatum.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 09:56 PM (sy5kK)

392 holy schnike Lawrence big run 67yds for TD

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 09:56 PM (iTXRQ)

393 Good job avoiding the sideline.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:56 PM (un8gM)

394 Alaskans celebrate "Marmot Day" hunting moose and fishing.

Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 09:56 PM (EmDt7)

395 In the 1960s, Boy Scouts used to camp on Prudence Island. I'm amazed we didn't come home infested with ticks. Wonder if they still have that little ferry to get from the Bristol shore (IIRC) to the island.

Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2019 09:57 PM (7EjX1)

396 I'm livestreaming the game and the rest of you are about a minute ahead of me. Weird.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 28, 2019 09:57 PM (sWM8x)

397 Isn't the cranberry sauce you can cut in discs and retains the ridges of the cans the classic form?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December

Traditionally served as a side to the canned chicken.

Posted by: not so at December 28, 2019 09:57 PM (HALdu)

398 390 The commentators on ESPN want Clemson to win so badly it's sickening.
Posted by: Ladyl at December 28, 2019 09:56 PM (TdMsT)

Maybe, but they definitely want a good game to call, unlike the earlier one this afternoon.

16-7 with 2 minutes left in the first half, it is still a game.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 09:58 PM (sy5kK)

399 Don't launch yourself with your head down. Its eyes up looking at your target. Targeting is called for the safety of defenseless players on offense and for the safety of defensive players so they don't break their necks trying to lead with the crown of their helmet. Coaches know how to form tackle. Using the helmet as a weapon to cause harm needs to be inforced. Players are crazy strong, fast, huge.

t. Slot Wr in high school in the Dirty South when targeting wasn't called in late 90's. Averaged 3-4 major concussions a year.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 28, 2019 09:58 PM (ndaq5)

400 > If the targeting rule was around 40 years ago in the NFL, nobody would know the name Jack Tatum.

there are a lot of guys in the HOF who couldn't play under today's rules

Ronny Lott and Fred Williamson come to mind

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 09:58 PM (iTXRQ)

401 The marmots in the Olympic National Park shriek at you when you're hiking. They're cute, furry and LOUD!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 28, 2019 09:58 PM (PkVlr)

402 woody hayes was a jack ass.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 28, 2019 09:58 PM (KP5rU)

403 ONT NOOD

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at December 28, 2019 09:59 PM (ZCEU2)

404 Another well known Marmot Day Alaskan celebratory activity is removing snow from driveway and sculpting Marmot figures out of ice.

Posted by: runner at December 28, 2019 09:59 PM (EmDt7)

405 The commentators on ESPN want Clemson to win so badly it's sickening.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 28, 2019 09:56 PM (TdMsT)

Of course they do! They have broadcast rights to the ACC during the regular season. Clemson is part of that conference.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 09:59 PM (un8gM)

406 395 In the 1960s, Boy Scouts used to camp on Prudence Island. I'm amazed we didn't come home infested with ticks. Wonder if they still have that little ferry to get from the Bristol shore (IIRC) to the island.
Posted by: JTB at December 28, 2019 09:57 PM (7EjX1)

Affirmative on the ferry, JTB. And Prudence Island is infected with deer and Lyme disease ticks.

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 09:59 PM (vqhGh)

407 LadyL @ 390, i don't think the 'sports'casters want Clemson to win. No way. They want Ohio State.

Posted by: Eromero at December 28, 2019 09:59 PM (UUkQp)

408 I was resting at around 12, 000 feet on Mount Humboldt, looking at the magnificent Crestone Peak, Crestone Needle, and the sheer wall around them.

A marmot ambled up and started licking the leather of my Vasquez hiking boots. For the fresh mink oil, I suppose. I got a blurry picture of it. It ambled off 5 minutes later. No fear of man in that marmot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 09:59 PM (u82oZ)

409 damn now I'm jonesing for some marmot

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2019 09:59 PM (iTXRQ)

410 Traditionally served as a side to the canned chicken.
Posted by: not so at December 28, 2019 09:57 PM (HALdu)

Still tastier than 'real' cranberry berry fruit trash piles I have seen passed off as 'sauce'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2019 10:00 PM (ycWCI)

411 My old man, Eagle scout at 14, troop leader and Army vet whole heartedly endorses putting up the tarp first.

However, he'd like to know why you pantywaists need tents.

Posted by: Kazi at December 28, 2019 10:01 PM (0x00j)

412
Nurse, have you ever camped on Blake Island?

We started going there as a family, before there was a breakwater, only a log boom. But the deer were just as pesky back then. No fear of humans.

Haven't done it for a long time, but you can kayak to the west shore and there are some great spots there, in addition to the campsites.

Highly recommended.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 28, 2019 10:02 PM (sy5kK)

413 nood ONT

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2019 10:02 PM (u82oZ)

414 Either way, ESPN is going to talk up the National Championship Game like there's no tomorrow. And for many, many days.

Posted by: Vendette at December 28, 2019 10:02 PM (un8gM)

415 Good times remembered. Nice thread, Bandersnatch.
But I still think it was AtC in the tent. With the candlestick.

Posted by: RI Red at December 28, 2019 10:04 PM (vqhGh)

416 Herbie played QB for OSU. I believe they are calling the game down the middle wanting a great football game between 2 undefeated teams.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 28, 2019 10:10 PM (ndaq5)

417 Lin-duh,

The backpacking out here is outrageous. Google The Enchantments in the North Cascades. Pictures do not do it justice!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 28, 2019 10:12 PM (PkVlr)

418 I was a Scout once upon a time ago. We went camping once a month to a lot of Civil War battlefields in a 200 mile radius in 4 states, every month of the year. I got out as a lowly Star Scout for 'reasons' but I loved camping.

I don't even 'Buffalo' camp now, getting up off the ground is too hard and I'm tired of fighting off the bugs.

Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at December 28, 2019 10:13 PM (qZdIZ)

419 "Only uninformed Yankee interlopers camp in the South.
The skeeters will pick you up and carry you clear to Mexico."

I guess you have never camped in northern NC? or WV mountains?
You go high enough there ain't no mosquitoes.

Posted by: pizan at December 29, 2019 06:53 AM (NLEnr)

420 The best sleep I've had in years in a tent was in a hammock tent this summer. Took a bit to get set up right, but was much easier to get up and move about.

Posted by: ERF at December 29, 2019 09:02 AM (NxG7K)

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