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Doc_Zero/John Hayward: The Takeaway from Impeachment Theater Is That The Unelected Permanent Government Has Lost Confidence In the Voters

Would it not be simpler to dissolve the people, and install another?

The big takeaway from Impeachment Theater is that American voters have influence over a much smaller portion of the federal government than they believed. Washington is a feudal bureaucratic empire with a small suggestion box.

Last week American voters were introduced to the idea that the elected President of the United States can be accused of "undermining" foreign policy determined by the permanent bureaucracy, which spends billions of our tax dollars but is not even slightly interested in our input.



We've been told top bureaucrats who supposedly serve at the pleasure of the president are actually entitled to their jobs and firing them is a crime, with the president presumed guilty unless he can prove he had an acceptable reason for terminating or reassigning them.

We've learned that Made Men of the bureaucratic empire and its political wing, the Democrat Party, cannot be investigated for corruption unless the most exquisite preliminary rituals are followed and the investigators can demonstrate the absolute purity of their intentions.

Outside of Impeachment Theater, we've been told it's heroic for the bureaucracy to organize "resistance" against the elected president and congressional representatives, if the Washington empire disapproves of the voters' choices.

We've discovered obscure lower-court judges can hijack entire segments of national policy on a whim. Some of these imperial proclamations have been expressly premised on the notion that American citizens have less to say about their own government than foreign nationals do.

We've learned a president the imperial bureaucracy likes can issue executive orders that cannot be reversed by presidents it disapproves of. The people are belatedly informed that some matters are settled forever on the "one man, one vote, one time" principle.

The essence of self-government, the true right that matters above all others, is the right to say "no." We've learned over the past three years that the American people no longer have that right in most cases, but their nominal employees in the federal government do.

If the imperial bureaucracy makes a demand of you, good luck with trying to work up a "resistance" movement. Good luck getting any favorable attention from the media that has fused with that bureaucracy and enjoys a revolving door of employment with it.

But if you, the Little People, cast votes the imperial bureaucracy doesn't like... well, watch out. They'll fight you every step of the way and spend untold millions of YOUR dollars against you. Then they'll get in front of cameras and expect you to applaud them as heroes.

It was always a swindle to convince the American people that democracy serves as a failsafe check against authoritarian power. We were fooled into thinking our government could never become dictatorial, no matter how much power it claims, because we can always vote the bums out.

Guess what, kids? "Voting the bums out" turns out to be nearly impossible in any significant sense, because they can use their vast resources of money, power, and media to create defensive phalanxes of rock-solid voters. They can give you billions of reasons not to vote them out.


And as we've seen since 2017, even if you DO manage to vote the bums out, or vote in an administration that disagrees with the imperial consensus, you learn that most of the power and money is controlled by people you never get to vote against.

You learn that the people you don't vote for are very capable of defending their privileges against the people who DO have to face the voters. And you learn that far more issues than you ever suspected are considered "settled" so you'll never get to vote on them again. /end

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:40 PM




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1 Fresh

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (754s8)

2 Well, did I get it?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (qC1Sy)

3 First

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (zkFz1)

4 st!

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (J1R3A)

5 First?

Posted by: Friendly Neighborhood Groyper at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (hKnL8)

6 So once again, we've failed the elites. Sad..

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (X+a7J)

7 Damn

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (zkFz1)

8 Obviously not.

Darn it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (qC1Sy)

9 I tried ):

Posted by: Friendly Neighborhood Groyper at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (hKnL8)

10 i demand a recount!

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (J1R3A)

11 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (q80AH)

12 Doc Zero da man.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 03:40 PM (yDWtO)

13 The voters should just defer to experts like me and Max Boot. After all, when have we ever been wrong about foreign policy.

Posted by: "The Expert" Tom Nichols at November 19, 2019 03:41 PM (OD2ni)

14 They have voted the people out and have chosen a more diverse third worldian group

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 03:41 PM (U7k5w)

15 I'm pretty sure they failed us first.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 19, 2019 03:42 PM (9tUH0)

16 Wow; That is a really good way to phrase it: The Government has lost confidence in the voters.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 03:42 PM (WI7YS)

17 So much sadzz here

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 19, 2019 03:42 PM (754s8)

18 Yes, they have that conceit. Many people throughout history have had that conceit. Right up to the point that things changed for them.


The surest way of losing the Mandate of Heaven is believing you do not need the Mandate of Heaven.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 19, 2019 03:42 PM (hLRSq)

19 Citizen be damned! We have a nation to enslave.

Posted by: The bureaucracy at November 19, 2019 03:42 PM (LOq4H)

20 Well if you can't vote them out, what is left?/

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (U7k5w)

21 "So once again, we've failed the elites. Sad..
Posted by: zeera BMGG"


Yup. Imaging the gall of Trump thinking winning the election allowed him to set policy. How dare he not get Lt. Col. Bearclaw's permission first.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

22 Time for March on Washington.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (WI7YS)

23 Ace, you gotta read this: https://bit.ly/2QCdVOH
The whole thing.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (CQ3Qb)

24 Yep. Our Globalist Masters have installed their Mandarins.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (yRAFu)

25 Can we start shooting yet?

Posted by: Claire at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (aVQdN)

26 I think it's important to remember that Vindman was recruited 4 times by Ukraine. We only know the first three failed.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (ymnmz)

27 And this article - no slap at you, Ace - is a big "no shit, Sherlock" to anyone who has been paying attention since, oh, the Eisenhower era.

The follow up question is, in the words of William Marcy Tweed, "What are you going to do about it?" I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.

But hey, don't forget to grab Chik-Fil-A and Coke to go while cheering on America's Team on Sunday football! That's AMERICA, fuck yeah!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (Ki5SV)

28 Related....the MSM is super excited about a planned community in Phoenix that will not allow cars. Walk and use a scooter (yes really scooters) to get around. In Phoenix. In July. No homes either. Just apartments with no cars, circa Eastern Block 1973.

This is what they want you to live like. Of course none of the developers will live there of course. They will live in a 4000 sq ft home with a 4 car garage.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (zkFz1)

29 25; fire away!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 03:44 PM (KP5rU)

30 16 Wow; That is a really good way to phrase it: The Government has lost confidence in the voters.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 03:42 PM (WI7YS)

Pelosi, Al Green & other Congressthings have all said that Trump has to be impeached, otherwise he might win reelection.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2019 03:44 PM (Izzlo)

31 It's all too big. All the organizations, the entire power structure. It's just too big.

If you listen to nothing else I say, and early returns are that you ain't, listen to this - you can't build big power structures and keep them under control. You just can't. That's not how Man works.

No set of oaths, no stringent set of requirements, will ever keep large organizations from deviating from their original purpose and existing simply to preserve themselves.

Until this is understood - things can't get better.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 19, 2019 03:44 PM (zWYuS)

32 16
Wow; That is a really good way to phrase it: The Government has lost confidence in the voters.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 03:42 PM (WI7YS)
Not a good omen, is it? Not voting ourselves out of this mess. We, as a general population, become more disengaged in politics thereby allowing this to continue, or ................

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 19, 2019 03:44 PM (N39Ws)

33 It's pretty obvious that between the diplomats and the spooks, the government is spoken for and that the people will take what they're given.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2019 03:44 PM (oVJmc)

34 whoa. I am a witness and these statements intimidated me.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 19, 2019 03:44 PM (FEQY4)

35 Wow. Colloquy and revanchist in one day. Be still my heart.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2019 03:45 PM (T6t7i)

36 Would it not be simpler to dissolve the people, and install another?
=====

On it!

Posted by: Open Borders Crowd at November 19, 2019 03:45 PM (QJA76)

37 I want some more Ace anger. This block quoting doesn't scratch the itch.

Posted by: Draki at November 19, 2019 03:45 PM (Fvogs)

38 Hey, just do what we did, import a whole 'nother electorate.

Posted by: CA Democrats at November 19, 2019 03:45 PM (w7KSn)

39 I mean, I'm a witness in the sense that I am being called to testify about my feelings about things I'm speculating about but not about actual events I witnessed, and I'm intimidated in the sense that I was and continue to be aware of the fact that I can be fired from my job, hypothetically, by the president.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 19, 2019 03:45 PM (FEQY4)

40 "So once again, we've failed the elites. Sad..
Posted by: zeera BMGG"


Yup. Imaging the gall of Trump thinking winning the election allowed him to set policy. How dare he not get Lt. Col. Bearclaw's permission first.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

Peons.

Posted by: Inter-agency Consensus at November 19, 2019 03:45 PM (v0R5T)

41 Remember they went with "these people are patriots, serving the American people" defense of the deep state?

62 million of us are not "the American people."

Let that sink in.

Trump is not just the illegitimate President--you who voted for him are illegitimate as well.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (k81AA)

42 20 Well if you can't vote them out, what is left?/
_______________

Watering the tree of liberty.

The time is coming.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (k4dH2)

43 however, the fact that I am intimidated by a tweet from the president reminding me of the fact that I've known and am aware of should in no way undermine the fact that I am a stunning and courageous, you-go-girl snap snap strong wahman!

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (FEQY4)

44 23 Ace, you gotta read this: https://bit.ly/2QCdVOH
The whole thing.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (CQ3Qb)

I love the part where the Bureau is embarrassed but that he is gifted and that it will never happen again...awwww. Ain't love grand?

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (U7k5w)

45 As someone said this morning, our government is staffed by those who think it is an autocracy with a suggestion box.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (NVYyb)

46 The Democrat Party are criminals who are exempt from the law.

Posted by: Chris M at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (eAZVt)

47 It really is incredible to find out just how many fairly high level staffers there are running our country.

That woman this morning.. Pence needs a foreign affairs staff? And this woman has a bos and who knows how many others are in these departments??

And this fucker Vindman.. who needs him? These people are just getting in the way.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (so+oy)

48 I do hope they don't put us into a firing line before they choose their next populace.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (xptlg)

49 When Ballots don't count, Bullets do.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (yRAFu)

50 We've been told top bureaucrats who supposedly serve at the pleasure of the president are actually entitled to their jobs and firing them is a crime, with the president presumed guilty unless he can prove he had an acceptable reason for terminating or reassigning them.
---
All those have a Party clause in them.

Clinton can fire all the state attorneys, Bush can't fire 7--it's a "scandal" if he fires 7.

Remember that when people trot about "No scandal Obama". Bush had "scandals" that weren't.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2019 03:47 PM (DuZls)

51 we have the same thing here in #Failifornia:

see rent control. they wanted it to be law, so they put a proposition on the ballot. amazingly, it got voted down.

end of story, right?

nope: the legislature passed it this year, and Newsom signed it.

bastards.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2019 03:47 PM (J1R3A)

52 I get to vote for 4 individuals on a Federal level, yet there are millions of the f ers who run my life. This thing needs to be gutted like a trout.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 19, 2019 03:48 PM (LOq4H)

53
>>We've been told top bureaucrats who supposedly serve at the pleasure of the president are actually entitled to their jobs and firing them is a crime, with the president presumed guilty unless he can prove he had an acceptable reason for terminating or reassigning them.

=========

Well fuck I'm boiling mad again, especially since I just finished reading one of the morning links on what a water balloon Lindsey Graham is.

Now I want to know: WHY IN FUCK can we not change the rules of federal employment? What are they, encrypted and passworded in such a way that they can't be undone without ten Cray computers doing computations for a thousand years?

JESUS, Trump. Do something crazy. Change the rules of the branch you head!

Posted by: 26-year-old reporter briefed by Ben Rhodes at November 19, 2019 03:48 PM (QfRqO)

54 Nobody has thanked Volker for his service yet!
OMG what is going on?

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 03:48 PM (v0R5T)

55 Related....the MSM is super excited about a planned community in Phoenix that will not allow cars. Walk and use a scooter (yes really scooters) to get around. In Phoenix. In July. No homes either. Just apartments with no cars, circa Eastern Block 1973.

What ever floats your boat.

We have guns, so none of us will be forced to live in said planned community...

Posted by: Adriane the Dystopian Sci Fi Critic ... at November 19, 2019 03:48 PM (LPnfS)

56 I feel happy! I feel happy!

Posted by: Uncle Sam at November 19, 2019 03:48 PM (aVQdN)

57 52 we have the same thing here in #Failifornia:

see rent control. they wanted it to be law, so they put a proposition on the ballot. amazingly, it got voted down.

end of story, right?

nope: the legislature passed it this year, and Newsom signed it.

bastards.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2019 03:47 PM (J1R3A)

See also Brexit.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2019 03:48 PM (Izzlo)

58 When Ballots don't count, Bullets do.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (yRAFu)
---
Well, a vote is a war by civil means.

The progs have forgotten that. They're always demanding consensus--because they can't reconcile the idea of a "minority" shut out--where they care about any minority that is.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2019 03:49 PM (DuZls)

59 You just have to assume the Democrats are guilty of millions of crimes we've never even heard about.

Posted by: Chris M at November 19, 2019 03:49 PM (eAZVt)

60 all this is driven by immigration. This new America is not one I recognize.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 19, 2019 03:49 PM (FEQY4)

61 In the Era of the Golden Scalp Weasel came the Great Unmasking.

What the NROniks and the Bulwarkians and Reverend French (I do so love that VDH called him that), et al. seem to miss is that the point of the GOP was supposed to be to stop this.

Remember the CRA? You know, when Newt promised that there would be Congressional review of regulatory actions (never mind how insanely inverted that is) and see we COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY passed the CRA and what do you mean now use it?

Remember when we were assured, with all sneering and pomp, that the GOP had to take the House because that way the power of the purse could be used to stop Obama and what do you mean you expect us to use it, we can't have a government shut down! It's the worst thing ever!

One half of one third.

Don't have the Presidency

Don't have 60 in the Senate.

Don't have the Courts.

It's excuse after excuse after excuse but never ever not in the history of ever does the GOP ever turn the ratchet the other way.

Then comes Trump, who is a transactional President in the sense that he made a deal. If you vote for me, I will do X. People voted for him and he is doing his best to give X.

Of course that's going to infuriate people who are being confronted that all of their pretty words were lies.

This all will end in the usual fashion. I just hope when I go down in the first wave that it's really quick.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 19, 2019 03:49 PM (GbPPJ)

62 Have you met the people? They're all a bunch of idiots who throw their money away!

Posted by: Joel Olsteen at November 19, 2019 03:49 PM (Fvogs)

63 Apparently Ukraine is the center of the universe.
It's settled science.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 03:49 PM (v0R5T)

64 Now I want to know: WHY IN FUCK can we not change the rules of federal employment? What are they, encrypted and passworded in such a way that they can't be undone without ten Cray computers doing computations for a thousand years?

JESUS, Trump. Do something crazy. Change the rules of the branch you head!

Posted by: 26-year-old reporter briefed by Ben Rhodes at November 19, 2019 03:48 PM (QfRqO)

Those rules were implemented legislatively.

Posted by: Someguy at November 19, 2019 03:49 PM (O+iVW)

65 "Consent of the governed" was misspelled, it should have read "consent of the government"

--By Order of the Most High Hawaiian Judge

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 19, 2019 03:49 PM (k81AA)

66
we have the same thing here in #Failifornia:

see rent control. they wanted it to be law, so they put a proposition on the ballot. amazingly, it got voted down.

end of story, right?

nope: the legislature passed it this year, and Newsom signed it.

bastards.
Posted by: redc1c4

======

effing idiot Failifornians will vote this legislature right back in as surely as the sun rises in the East.

Posted by: 26-year-old reporter briefed by Ben Rhodes at November 19, 2019 03:50 PM (QfRqO)

67 That is a great write up and has the advantage of being demonstrably true.

Posted by: Caliban at November 19, 2019 03:50 PM (QE8X6)

68 the monster will be fed, proles, fuck all y'all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 03:50 PM (KP5rU)

69
Oops, that 26-year-old reporter briefed by Ben Rhodes sock was me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 03:50 PM (QfRqO)

70 I'm not happy with the way Trump has handled this coup, seems like firing personnel would be a pretty easy thing to do. One bad week of news coverage and most of it would be flushed out.

That being said, any other Republican would have probably just resigned by now and agreed for the good of the country Hilary should take her rightful place as President.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2019 03:50 PM (sjTfF)

71 If by "dissolve the people and install another" you mean "replace American voters with illegals and America hating Muslims," yep, that's the plan. And it's being enacted.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 19, 2019 03:50 PM (Wmf3G)

72 When does the shooting start?

Since we have used all the other boxes.
Soap box.
Jury box.
Ballot box.

Only box left is the cartridge box.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (ob5xJ)

73 Ballot measure in WA state passed drastically lowering car registration. Lolgf citizens said the Seattle city council. They are suing to block it. And they will win since the state has nothing but Obama judges after 20 years of Democrat appointments. And the state Supreme Court is basically a Democrat rubber stamp.

The people truly have no say in anything.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (zkFz1)

74 16 Wow; That is a really good way to phrase it: The Government has lost confidence in the voters.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 03:42 PM (WI7YS)


Alternate title: the peasants are revolting.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (kUmUV)

75 Whoa. Some in mil want Vindman prosecuted on Articles 88 and 133 of the UCMJ. They're stating a failure to do so diminishes Army values, traditions and regulations. It also allows a direct attack on CiNC to go unpunished.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (F73W5)

76 shine box!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (KP5rU)

77 --By Order of the Most High Hawaiian Judge
.........

Cut back on the pakalolo, brah.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

78 see rent control. they wanted it to be law, so they put a proposition on the ballot. amazingly, it got voted down.

end of story, right?

nope: the legislature passed it this year, and Newsom signed it.

bastards.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2019 03:47 PM (J1R3A)

See also Brexit.


And every school bond ever voted down. Magically, it LIVES AGAIN until final passage.

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (X+a7J)

79 The best lack all conviction,
While the worst are full of passionate intensity.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (E+OcO)

80 The Democrat Party hates white people.

Posted by: Chris M at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (eAZVt)

81
Those rules were implemented legislatively.
Posted by: Someguy

=======

And...they apply to the executive branch?

If so, seems like a check-and-balance might be in order. Something for the executive branch to take to the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (QfRqO)

82 Would it not be simpler to dissolve the people and install another?


Been doing that for a long while now.

Posted by: Deepstatersprogressivesandrinos at November 19, 2019 03:52 PM (QP5Tn)

83 Well said, Doc.

So to take a page from Claire Wolfe: Does that mean we have, at long last, reached the "shoot the bastards" stage?

Posted by: Dr. T at November 19, 2019 03:52 PM (2PXwn)

84 >>And as we've seen since 2017, even if you DO manage to vote the bums
out, or vote in an administration that disagrees with the imperial
consensus, you learn that most of the power and money is controlled by
people you never get to vote against.


YES
Yup. Hillary was going to win, it was never even considered the opposite would happen.

We're not the only ones learning this, just ask the people in the UK who voted for Brexit. They were promised by the elites that they would for sure, totally, cross-their-hearts, pinky swear stick by the vote. Because they thought they had it all wrapped up behind the scenes.

Posted by: Handel at November 19, 2019 03:52 PM (bDqIh)

85 A country run by Vindman's wouldn't last so long.

Posted by: SH at November 19, 2019 03:52 PM (sX1BW)

86 It was Commander Bearclaw in the fourrier with a block of Velveeta.

Posted by: FBI Investigator at November 19, 2019 03:52 PM (2Mnv1)

87 I'm convinced that these idiot busybody commie libs not only existed but thrived well before Marx gave them a name and a purpose - and they were the precise fuckers the Founders were desperate to get away from.

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2019 03:52 PM (k9jwM)

88 We lost confidence in them ages ago.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (htJYU)

89
Whoa. Some in mil want Vindman prosecuted on Articles 88 and 133 of the UCMJ. They're stating a failure to do so diminishes Army values, traditions and regulations. It also allows a direct attack on CiNC to go unpunished.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy

========

ya THINK?

Sorry, I don't mean to snap at you -- it's this rank of Our Betters that is pissing me off like mad this afternoon.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (QfRqO)

90 I'm not happy with the way Trump has handled this coup, seems like firing personnel would be a pretty easy thing to do. One bad week of news coverage and most of it would be flushed out.

Posted by: Blago



Fuck firing. I was people in jail or in front of a wall for their part in the coup.

And the amount of evidence that would be necessary is shrinking daily.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (ob5xJ)

91 Wow. This Volker guy stormed the beaches at Normandy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (ptqGC)

92 71 If by "dissolve the people and install another" you mean "replace American voters with illegals and America hating Muslims," yep, that's the plan. And it's being enacted.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 19, 2019 03:50 PM (Wmf3G)

Deplatform these racisms and anti-semitisms

Posted by: jonah goldberger at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (Rw8Ov)

93 72 When does the shooting start?

Since we have used all the other boxes.
Soap box.
Jury box.
Ballot box.

Only box left is the cartridge box.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (ob5xJ)

Don't think about it. Swallowell will nuke you with his fartbox.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (1CjJc)

94 The Democrats Party hates all people but enjoys their votes.

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (k9jwM)

95 One man.
One vote.
One time.

Posted by: Your Socialist Masters at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (UCiEJ)

96 It's gonna' happen between 2020 and 2024. One way or the other.

This can't continue.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (zWYuS)

97 >>Would it not be simpler to dissolve the people and install another?



>>Been doing that for a long while now.

I think they've been quite open about that, just look at the Lefties in CA and VA gleefully reporting the major demographic shift.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (bDqIh)

98 Don't you

forget about me

Posted by: Angry Mob yearning to breath free at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (GD6iJ)

99 72 When does the shooting start?

Since we have used all the other boxes.
Soap box.
Jury box.
Ballot box.

Only box left is the cartridge box.
Posted by: rickb223

soap boxes can be reused under the lamp posts

Posted by: x at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (nFwvY)

100 Don't trust the government. Trust me and shower me with your taxes. I promise to always love you.

Posted by: Joel Olsteen at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (Fvogs)

101 91 Wow. This Volker guy stormed the beaches at Normandy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (ptqGC)

He had a great vacation last summer.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (Izzlo)

102 Damn government autocorrect!

Foyer.

Posted by: FBI Investigator at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (2Mnv1)

103
just ask the people in the UK who voted for Brexit. They were promised by the elites that they would for sure, totally, cross-their-hearts, pinky swear stick by the vote. Because they thought they had it all wrapped up behind the scenes.
Posted by: Handel

========

I have to admit, when I'm at my maddest, I think of the Brits and they do seem to have it worse.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (QfRqO)

104 The best lack all conviction,
While the worst are full of passionate intensity.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (E+OcO)


My suggestion, 'Don't buy the liverworst ...'

That takes care of 1/2 of it.

Posted by: Adriane the Dystopian Sci Fi Critic ... at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (LPnfS)

105 Sounds like We the People need to fire the Federal Government as it presently exists.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (Dp5C+)

106 79 The best lack all conviction,
While the worst are full of passionate intensity.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 19, 2019 03:51 PM (E+O)

It's hard to drum up conviction when you're told to "trust the plan" and just stfu. Nobody tells the left this, they say "fucking riot, yo"

Posted by: Zombie Yeats at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (U7k5w)

107 One man.
One vote.
One time.
Posted by: Your Socialist Masters at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (UCiEJ)

Works for Vetinari.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (ECrgQ)

108 Would it not be simpler to dissolve the people, and install another?

-
Nanzi Pelosi is doing the best she can!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (+y/Ru)

109 These new Strzok texts are damning
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 19, 2019 03:39 PM (CQ3Qb)
********
NO ??? Nothing is happening

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (BqBId)

110 Can we start shooting yet?

Posted by: Claire at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (aVQdN)

Weapons hot.

Posted by: Lt Colonel Apple Turnover at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (88+cf)

111 47 The Democrat Party are criminals who are exempt from the law.
Posted by: Chris M at November 19, 2019 03:46 PM (eAZVt)


Mostly this, and also the UniParty lifetime Republicans share in this facade of citizens in control of their government.

The Democrat party is the anti-law party, to be sure. Those that are Democrats are ABOVE the law, and sneer to anyone who disagrees.

Including the Democrat judges, the crooked backstop to this crooked game.

And the Democrat Press, that commonly delivers a false view, with false facts, while ignoring the important, relevant information.

All the time covering up the crooked schemes of their fellow Democrat tools.

Democrats in power today are cancer to America. Cancer to individual freedom. It is killing it. Cancer does that.

Either Trump locks a lot of them up, or this country will absolutely fall into CW2. You can bet your stored ammo and silver coins on it.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (sy5kK)

112 Kelly Ann realizes that going through a divorce now will give the enemy too much cannon fodder and distract from getting Trump reelected in 2020.

I wouldn't be surprised if once elections are over she steps down from her position and files on the sob.

Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (QP5Tn)

113 I said from the beginning that Trump had a purpose to keeping these Obama-Clinton idiots around and it was because he wanted to catch them in the act. Nothing else made sense. Theory still holds, but man is it long and painful to watch.

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (k9jwM)

114 Rudy is a bad, bad man.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (ZLI7S)

115 I doubt 10% of Dems could have placed the Ukraine on map or given one piece informational about it or even identified it as a foreign country before this BS phone call became the worst crime n American politics ever. And now I am supposed to believe they are all fainting over the outrage?

Posted by: Ripley at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (MxEKc)

116
By the way, Devin Nunes's opening statement just now was rather epic.

"Welcome to Day Two of this circus," etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (QfRqO)

117 Whoa. Some in mil want Vindman prosecuted on Articles 88 and 133 of the
UCMJ. They're stating a failure to do so diminishes Army values,
traditions and regulations. It also allows a direct attack on CiNC to go
unpunished.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy

=============

Pretty fucking obvious, dontchathink? As ridiculous and petty as these attacks seem, how can his actions be anything other than bad for discipline?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (NVYyb)

118 That is one of the best things I've read in years.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (14URa)

119 "dissolve the people, and install another"

Isn't that what illegal immigration and eliminating any form of voter ID is all about?

Posted by: WTP at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (66rlH)

120 55

This is just the latest in the war against families and family housing. The end goal is to have no other choice but shit like this. It is a goal of the left, their fucking wet dream, no cars and everyone in apartments.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (zkFz1)

121 Don't think about it. Swallowell will nuke you with his fartbox.
Posted by: flounder


We'll get Buttgig to tongue punch his fart box.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (ob5xJ)

122 103
just ask the people in the UK who voted for Brexit. They were promised by the elites that they would for sure, totally, cross-their-hearts, pinky swear stick by the vote. Because they thought they had it all wrapped up behind the scenes.
Posted by: Handel

========

I have to admit, when I'm at my maddest, I think of the Brits and they do seem to have it worse.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (QfRqO)

All our problems plus refrigerators that don't get cooler than 50 degrees

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (Izzlo)

123 Rudy is a bad, bad man.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (ZLI7S)

Why?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (WI7YS)

124 Oh and another thing: I'm sick and tired of this snotty if Trump is impeached and removed from office that is not overturning the 2016 election because Pence will be President.

Setting aside that the Dems will go for Pence immediately on grounds of breathing, I did not fucking vote for Pence for President. I voted for Trump.

It absolutely would be overturning the election and it is insulting to have people claim otherwise.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (GbPPJ)

125 Fuck firing. I was people in jail or in front of a wall for their part in the coup.

And the amount of evidence that would be necessary is shrinking daily.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (ob5xJ)

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Posted by: Zombie Yeats at November 19, 2019 03:57 PM (U7k5w)

126 Related....the MSM is super excited about a planned community in Phoenix that will not allow cars. Walk and use a scooter (yes really scooters) to get around. In Phoenix. In July. No homes either. Just apartments with no cars, circa Eastern Block 1973.

What ever floats your boat.

We have guns, so none of us will be forced to live in said planned community...
Posted by: Adriane the Dystopian Sci Fi Critic ... at November 19, 2019 03:48 PM (LPnfS)

The central AZ Valley is already full of such communities. They are called "mobile home parks". Now, they mostly permit cars, but you don't need a car to get around within the park; you use a golf cart, or maybe a bicycle or scooter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2019 03:57 PM (/sgva)

127 Rudy is a bad, bad man.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (ZLI7S)

This seems to be the narrative.
But why? Is it poll-tested?

He no longer has any good will left in the bank from 9/11?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2019 03:57 PM (CqE5x)

128 Dunes needs to start off tomorrow with

Welcome back my friends
To the show that never ends
We're so glad you could attend
Come inside, come inside

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:57 PM (ZLI7S)

129
I have to admit, when I'm at my maddest, I think of the Brits and they do seem to have it worse.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 03:54 PM (QfRqO)

-------

UK and US Deep States are part of the same organism.

And hey - it's not as if the UK DS went ahead and started raiding the homes of everyone who works with Nigel Farage and locking them in prison on process crimes and using every single tool of the State apparatus to destroy him and his family or anything.

I'd wager ours is the worse of the two.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2019 03:57 PM (AzW6q)

130 >>Sounds like We the People need to fire the Federal Government as it presently exists.


Yes, indeed!That's why Trump's "Drain the swamp" resonates.

Which reminds me, unleash Mulvaney and his comprehensive federal government reorganization plan already!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2019 03:58 PM (bDqIh)

131 Nanzi Pelosi is doing the best she can!
===========

JJ had a link this morning to a memo from her explicitly saying the people cannot be trusted in the upcoming election and the national interest can only be served by impeaching the President before he gets re-elected

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2019 03:58 PM (NVYyb)

132

Reuters has a story that Lt. Col. Fatbody maybe moved to an army base for his protection after testifying because our hero is afraid for his life now according to an unnamed US official which was probably Schifty Schiff

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2019 03:58 PM (kw5n8)

133 Wow. This Volker guy stormed the beaches at Normandy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (ptqGC)
.........

Then climbed the Alps barefoot.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (v0R5T)

134 Yes, indeed!That's why Trump's "Drain the swamp" resonates.

Which reminds me, unleash Mulvaney and his comprehensive federal government reorganization plan already!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2019 03:58 PM (bDqIh)



Repeal the Administrative Procedures Act.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (GbPPJ)

135 The Mandarins of the Potomac need to be fired.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (Dp5C+)

136 >>This seems to be the narrative.
But why? Is it poll-tested?

>>He no longer has any good will left in the bank from 9/11?

It seems that anyone who doesn't play nice with our diplomats and other assorted bureaucrats is an enemy to be destroyed.

None of these dopes seem to know what happened in 2016 or care.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (ZLI7S)

137 I actually think this guy is pretty convincing so far.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (T6t7i)

138 Deep State was what "Yes, Minister" was all about. It was right out there in the open. British TV of the 1980's nailed it. And we all laughed and laughed...

Posted by: WTP at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (66rlH)

139 UK and US Deep States are part of the same organism.



Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2019 03:57 PM (AzW6q)


As are New Zealand, Australia, and Canada. We should abolish Five Eyes. Today wouldn't be soon enough.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (zWYuS)

140 132

Reuters has a story that Lt. Col. Fatbody maybe moved to an army base for his protection after testifying because our hero is afraid for his life now according to an unnamed US official which was probably Schifty Schiff
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2019 03:58 PM (kw5n

Good thing no one on Army bases work for Trump.
/s

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (Izzlo)

141 128 Dunes needs to start off tomorrow with
Welcome back my friends
To the show that never ends
We're so glad you could attend
Come inside, come inside


Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:57 PM (ZLI7S)

Everyone was waiting for an EDKH

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (k9jwM)

142 Bearclaw hates Giuliani...Giuliani must be a marvel

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (U7k5w)

143
We've learned that Made Men of the bureaucratic empire and its political wing, the Democrat Party, cannot be investigated for corruption unless the most exquisite preliminary rituals are followed and the investigators can demonstrate the absolute purity of their intentions.

========

This has long been known. Lindsey Graham could have investigated the shyt out of Hillary's records concealment and theft and evasion of FOIA, Hunter Biden's potential corruption, and the withholding of Brady evidence in the Flynn case.

But NO.

Fuckers. Honestly, I'm in a bad mood today.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (QfRqO)

144 Reuters has a story that Lt. Col. Fatbody maybe moved to an army base for his protection after testifying because our hero is afraid for his life now according to an unnamed US official which was probably Schifty Schiff
Posted by: TheQuietMan


Military barracks at Ft. Leavenworth is pretty dang safe.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (ob5xJ)

145 I always took Jefferson's "Tree Of Liberty" to be essentially metaphorical. Boy, was I ever delusional.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (NVYyb)

146 Rudy is a bad, bad man.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (ZLI7S)

Why?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (WI7YS)
.........

He stopped Volker from curing cancer.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (v0R5T)

147 >>Related....the MSM is super excited about a planned community in Phoenix
that will not allow cars. Walk and use a scooter (yes really scooters)
to get around. In Phoenix. In July. No homes either. Just apartments
with no cars, circa Eastern Block 1973.



What ever floats your boat.

- - -



Except of course, it won;t be voluntary. . eventually.
AOC's Green New Deal gave away the game.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (bDqIh)

148 Reuters has a story that Lt. Col. Fatbody maybe moved to an army base
for his protection after testifying because our hero is afraid for his
life now according to an unnamed US official which was probably Schifty
Schiff
>>
I hear Levinworth is nice

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (754s8)

149 Pretty sure that vindman is the leaker. He didn't talk to anyone else, that's why they are so intent on not letting him answer any questions on who else he talked to.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (JUOKG)

150 i don't envy those who will come next. i'm sorrowful for the probable future for my son.

i still pray that course will be reversed, but i'm not hopeful.

the reckoning will not be pretty, and i doubt it'll be televised.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (8D42x)

151 146 Rudy is a bad, bad man.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (ZLI7S)

Why?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (WI7YS)
.........

He stopped Volker from curing cancer.
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (v0R5T)

========

That's why we need Joe Biden as president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (q80AH)

152 1. We need to return to the spoils system of gov staffing, they all should be replaced every 4 years.

2. It is clear now that foreign aid is the favorite Washington DC method of graft. This also should be ended.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (Jj+59)

153 OK, he lost me there. Biden didn't know? AYFKM?

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (T6t7i)

154 128 Dunes needs to start off tomorrow with

Welcome back my friends
To the show that never ends
We're so glad you could attend
Come inside, come inside
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:57 PM (ZLI7S)

This is how I greet my wife's bulls every weekend.

Posted by: jonah goldberger at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (Rw8Ov)

155 Install a new people? Isn't that what Swalwell has suggested?

Posted by: RobinKay at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (uaYXs)

156 For maximum protection Vindaloumon needs a cell with Nidal Hassan

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (Dp5C+)

157 152 1. We need to return to the spoils system of gov staffing, they all should be replaced every 4 years.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (Jj+59)

==========

Factoid:

Under the spoils system, only roughly 10% of the civil service got turned out on average.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (q80AH)

158 The accusation that Biden acted corruptly is not credible despite his son making bank from the most corrupt company in Ukraine.

But it's easy to see how Trump was corrupt because Orange Man Bad!

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (ZLI7S)

159 I stormed some bitches in Paris one time.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (88+cf)

160 Reuters has a story that Lt. Col. Fatbody maybe moved to an army base
for his protection after testifying because our hero is afraid for his
life now according to an unnamed US official which was probably Schifty
Schiff

Posted by: TheQuietMan

===============

I cannot believe an Army barracks will ever be safer for Vindman than wandering the streets of Baltimore by himself, late at night. That's an offensive idea.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (NVYyb)

161

Slowly at first, then suddenly.......

Posted by: a guy that writes stories about bad times at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (sy5kK)

162 If the mil blog comments are representative this guy has just pissed off 95% of Big Green. Not really where you want to be.

By the way, they're hiding him at Fort Meyers. But everyone knows that.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (F73W5)

163 RE: Doc_Zero/John Hayward's "The Takeaway"

He's so right and it's so depressing.

It's not that it's necessarily new insight; it's that it is stated so simply yet comprehensively to define our status. We're in real trouble. And, with Trump, the answer to all these issues we knew were there, we see just how insidious, dangerous, and godawful "our" political and bureaucratic class is.

"We won't be voting ourselves out of this" as has been said many times. I just wonder when the tipping point will be and even if we can, as a nation of supposedly free men, muster the resolution to respond to this ongoing domestic threat.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (6eEQ+)

164 150 i don't envy those who will come next. i'm sorrowful for the probable future for my son.

i still pray that course will be reversed, but i'm not hopeful.

the reckoning will not be pretty, and i doubt it'll be televised.
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (8D42x)

But it will be well-deserved.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (1CjJc)

165 effing idiot Failifornians will vote this legislature right back in as surely as the sun rises in the East.

And my local NextDoor.com feed has everyone up in arms over increased crime, vagrancy, power outages and gas prices, etc, but they still simply cannot make the connection between that and their voting habits. This whole state is a lost cause.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (uGHnY)

166 158 The accusation that Biden acted corruptly is not credible despite his son making bank from the most corrupt company in Ukraine.

But it's easy to see how Trump was corrupt because Orange Man Bad!
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (ZLI7S)

==========

"Good enough for us! Impeach him already so we can convict!"
-20 Republican Senators

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (q80AH)

167 Which reminds me, unleash Mulvaney and his comprehensive federal government reorganization plan already!!!


And what the heck is Betsy Devos or whatever spelling her name has doing with the f**ing department of miseducation??!!

Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (QP5Tn)

168 Better keep those borders wide open and get a new electorate who votes like they're told

Posted by: brak at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (rARyd)

169 Moar Top Men

Posted by: Builder Berg at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (+Yu7u)

170
because our hero is afraid for his life

------

Was the testimony that stressful, that his lap-band broke?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (AzW6q)

171 Replace the voters? Whadduya think welcome wetback policy is about?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (Vgz5H)

172 160 Reuters has a story that Lt. Col. Fatbody maybe moved to an army base
for his protection after testifying because our hero is afraid for his
life now according to an unnamed US official which was probably Schifty
Schiff

Posted by: TheQuietMan

===============

I cannot believe an Army barracks will ever be safer for Vindman than wandering the streets of Baltimore by himself, late at night. That's an offensive idea.
------------------

Huh.

I don't remember them doing that for General Flynn.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (sy5kK)

173 27 -- I woke up during W's two terms and realized that State had an entirely different agenda than the President. I know a lot of you are less than thrilled with W, but it should still concern you that State is so willing to go to war against any Republican President. State loves Democrat presidents, but refuses to tolerate a Republican. Mary Poppins, you mentioned seeing it begin during Eisenhower's presidency. Actually, I suspect what you saw was the emergence of seeds planted in both Wilson's and FDR 's presidencies.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (T9XRy)

174 Don't hate on Bear Claw. He's just a sellout like Cuck Fil A.

Posted by: Joel Olsteen at November 19, 2019 04:03 PM (Fvogs)

175 165 effing idiot Failifornians will vote this legislature right back in as surely as the sun rises in the East.

And my local NextDoor.com feed has everyone up in arms over increased crime, vagrancy, power outages and gas prices, etc, but they still simply cannot make the connection between that and their voting habits. This whole state is a lost cause.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 19, 2019 04:02 PM (uGHnY)

=========

Troll 'em with:

"I met a nice young man. Gay, married to a Muslim, and an illegal immigrant to boot! I became fearful of my life when he said that he thought Trump had some good ideas. I don't know what to do!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 04:03 PM (q80AH)

176 Fuck the spoils system, fuck the relocating agencies around the country. Shut these agencies down immediately.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 19, 2019 04:03 PM (1NJJk)

177 This has long been known. Lindsey Graham could have investigated the shyt out of Hillary's records concealment and theft and evasion of FOIA, Hunter Biden's potential corruption, and the withholding of Brady evidence in the Flynn case.

But NO.

Fuckers. Honestly, I'm in a bad mood today.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 03:59 PM (QfRqO)

And Colonel Senator Graham is JAG. This performance has been sad.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:03 PM (U7k5w)

178 "top bureaucrats"

Posted by: The man who would be Paul Drake at November 19, 2019 04:03 PM (FsgBK)

179 164 150 i don't envy those who will come next. i'm sorrowful for the probable future for my son



Yes. I second that. Very sad.

Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 04:04 PM (QP5Tn)

180 By the way, they're hiding him at Fort Meyers. But everyone knows that.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 19, 2019 04:01 PM (F73W5)


They should hide him under a blanket. And throw him a party.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2019 04:04 PM (1CjJc)

181 One thing we know about government regulations of the Deep State: There ain't no sanity clause.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2019 04:04 PM (DuZls)

182 177 And Colonel Senator Graham is JAG. This performance has been sad.
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:03 PM (U7k5w)

==========

Well, David French was a JAG...

Also, I think Graham's rank is major. I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 04:04 PM (q80AH)

183 When you come up with specific people to target or plans for invading specific cities and overthrowing governments, let me know.

Until then, it is just a bunch of internet wish-casting.

Posted by: mrshad at November 19, 2019 04:04 PM (IJsa1)

184 Good writing in that post.
Only thing I would add is "slaves on a tax farm".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2019 04:04 PM (r+sAi)

185 Bottles of beer on the wall....

Posted by: Builder Berg at November 19, 2019 04:04 PM (+Yu7u)

186 listening to this guy babble I go back to the scene in Airplane the movie where people are killing themselves listening to Jack tell his life story

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (BqBId)

187 I've got to pay closer attention. I thought this Volker dude was a good guy.

Hope Nunez shreds him.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (sGotD)

188
"We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well and live."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (BWXZD)

189 Fuck losing confidence. My patience with them ran out seven years ago.

But me, I'm just one dude sitting at a keyboard, raging quietly while parsing my comments carefully. Placing votes that mean nothing, supporting doomed candidates, and wondering if enough people will get tired enough of it all to actually mean something.

Boy, I'm getting my answer these days.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (Rvlwi)

190 One thing that has become obvious to me in the last couple weeks, we have way too many government drones working on Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (ZLI7S)

191 Leavenworth . . .

I graduated from Navy Supply Corps Officer School in Athens, GA on Friday 6/23/1989, and promptly jumped in my car to drive to Corvallis, OR, where I arrived at 2 pm on Sunday, 6/25/89.

I made sure my route passed right by Leavenworth, stopped briefly and took a look, and promised myself I would NOT wind up there as a result of my upcoming 3 years on the USS Camden (AOE-2), Bremerton.

A lot of supply officers wind up in Leavenworth. I didn't, thank G-d.

Vindman should be hanged there for attempting a coup on the CinC.


Replace the voters?

Fuck that.

Water the Tree of Liberty.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (fp3O8)

192 Also, I think Graham's rank is major. I think.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 04:04 PM (q80AH)

Reserves, but Colonel, retired

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (U7k5w)

193


Dissolve the people and install another = Open Borders Mass Migration.

QED


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (zBaqJ)

194 Miss Lindsey and McCain had to be up to their eyeballs in this shit.
That is the only possible explanation.

Posted by: atilla the thrilla at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (w7KSn)

195 Fuck firing. I was people in jail or in front of a wall for their part in the coup.

And the amount of evidence that would be necessary is shrinking daily.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 03:53 PM (ob5xJ)

my only hope is that's the plan, if it continues to think it'll be obvious to EVERYONE.

but i'm not holding my breath

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (8D42x)

196 >>Repeal the Administrative Procedures Act.

OK, now I have to look that up.Remember this Mulvaney presentation at one of Trump's televised cabinet meetings? The best thing I've seen out of DC in decades.


https://tinyurl.com/qt33bc2

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (bDqIh)

197 He isn't going to be able to "hide" on any Army base. He was already outed on Fort Meyers. Nobody wants this POS on their base.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (F73W5)

198
The only thing "off" about Hayward's rant is that it's not easily broken down into 99 theses.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (QfRqO)

199 It's funny but I seem to recall Jonah G favourably quoting a Reagan quote about the most frightening words in the English being "I'm from the government and I'm hear to help."
It seems chubby boy would no longer agree with Reagan.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (Uu+Jp)

200 uck losing confidence. My patience with them ran out seven years ago.

But me, I'm just one dude sitting at a keyboard, raging quietly while parsing my comments carefully. Placing votes that mean nothing, supporting doomed candidates, and wondering if enough people will get tired enough of it all to actually mean something.

Boy, I'm getting my answer these days.
Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (Rvlwi)

How much for the ad space? I need to sell motivation speeches and lukewarm christianity.

Posted by: Joel Olsteen at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (Fvogs)

201
Works for Vetinari.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (ECrgQ)

well, he's a kicker so i can't imagine too many people arguing with him about the laces...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (8D42x)

202 Volker is putting me to sleep.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (CqE5x)

203
The only thing "off" about Hayward's rant is that it's not easily broken down into 99 theses.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

=======

Although it would also look good if it started with "When in the course of human events..."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (QfRqO)

204 He isn't going to be able to "hide" on any Army base. He was already outed on Fort Meyers. Nobody wants this POS on their base.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (F73W5)


When they find his ass blood-eagled on the running track in PTs, we'll know it was an inside job.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (zWYuS)

205 This all will end in the usual fashion. I just hope when I go down in the first wave that it's really quick.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 19, 2019 03:49 PM (GbPPJ)


And I even refrain from making the obvious joke.

I pray either that I die before the collapse, die quick in the collapse, or have the opportunity to personally take some of the traitors to hell with me.

We're the proles in 1984, called on only to cheer whenever the Party requires it, but otherwise are lulled into complacency with mind-numbing entertainment and any possible leaders are cut down by the Thought Police in the form of social media.

One hates to draw the ire of iron grandpa, but what's the point of going on?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (Ki5SV)

206 Would it not be simpler to dissolve the people, and install another?


That's what open borders is all about.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (jUYzd)

207 That ought to be PDT's SOTU address in January.

Delivered in front of them from the well of congress, not from the oval office. Let the cameras roll along the faces of Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, and all the rest.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (+fPHo)

208 People behind Volker are falling asleep and checking their email.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (v0R5T)

209 We need our own activist judges, if only to roll back the left's ill gotten gains. If you don't believe that, you're part of surrender theater

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (Fxgkp)

210
Placing votes that mean nothing

Posted by: Brother Cavil

========

At least we got Trump in.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (QfRqO)

211 "Biden is an honorable man."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (CqE5x)

212 192 Also, I think Graham's rank is major. I think.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 04:04 PM (q80AH)

Reserves, but Colonel, retired
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (U7k5w)

=========

I stand corrected.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (q80AH)

213
listening to this guy babble I go back to the scene in Airplane the
movie where people are killing themselves listening to Jack tell his
life story

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (BqBId)


Lol. One thing I've learned from listening to these Deep State blowhards the past several days, is they love the sound of their own voices. And they really do believe they're "the tip of the spear." Just like the men who've fought and died in every war we've ever had.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 04:08 PM (ptqGC)

214 wilson and his wife put us on this path. fdr magnified the fuck out of it. fucking commie gimps.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 04:08 PM (KP5rU)

215 Paging Mr. AllanG?
Mr. AllanG to the BurnScatterSalt Courtesy Phone please!

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2019 04:08 PM (77WPm)

216

...because the bedrocks are being ignored and loopholes are created by the devious for work-arounds.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2019 04:08 PM (vEIlU)

217 OK, now I have to look that up.Remember this Mulvaney presentation at one of Trump's televised cabinet meetings? The best thing I've seen out of DC in decades.


https://tinyurl.com/qt33bc2
Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (bDqIh)


Jim Geraghty's The Weed Agency is dead on accurate.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 19, 2019 04:08 PM (GbPPJ)

218 64 Now I want to know: WHY IN FUCK can we not change the rules of federal employment? What are they, encrypted and passworded in such a way that they can't be undone without ten Cray computers doing computations for a thousand years?

JESUS, Trump. Do something crazy. Change the rules of the branch you head!

Posted by: 26-year-old reporter briefed by Ben Rhodes at November 19, 2019 03:48 PM (QfRqO)

Those rules were implemented legislatively.

----------------------

Yes, and must be changed legislatively.

The fallacy for Congresscritters is that they can only be replaced by losing an election.

Wrong.

That is the easiest and most civil way, but certainly not the only way.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:08 PM (sy5kK)

219 He isn't going to be able to "hide" on any Army base. He was already outed on Fort Meyers. Nobody wants this POS on their base


Ft. Myers in Fl?

Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (QP5Tn)

220 207 That ought to be PDT's SOTU address in January.

Delivered in front of them from the well of congress, not from the oval office. Let the cameras roll along the faces of Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, and all the rest.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (+fPHo)


Dissolve Congress, arrest every Democrat and probably half to 3/4 of the GOP and abolish every single administration and bureaucracy.

I've about had it with all of this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (zBaqJ)

221 Lotta money to be made soon.

Posted by: Torches, Rope and Pitchforks (backwards R) US at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (c6y+B)

222

Half of the population have venom in their veins and they can't see straight.

Because of the media.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (vEIlU)

223 Volker is putting me to sleep.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2019 04:06 PM (CqE5x)

Just saw the guy behind him pick his nose

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (v0R5T)

224 One hates to draw the ire of iron grandpa, but what's the point of going on?
Posted by: MP4 at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (Ki5SV)


Of course we go on. We go on for spite if nothing else.

Now, going on with the current shit show ? No - it's no longer worth sustaining. It's too rotten to fix. Let it fall, and build another.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (zWYuS)

225 In a sane world, Vindman would have a job as a Prison Guard, or a Doritos vender- maybe.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (Fxgkp)

226 211 "Biden is an honorable man."
Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (CqE5x)


So was Billy Batts and what did that get him?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (zBaqJ)

227 Although it would also look good if it started with "When in the course of human events..."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia


No.

No more speeches, no more pamphlets.

Just get down to business. If they can't figure out why, that's on them.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (Rvlwi)

228 @190

That's because certain countries are nexuses of money laundering and beak dipping and outright corruption...


Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, et al at one time or another have focuses of US foreign policy, this reason has almost nothing to do with foreign relations or making a better tomorrow for the peoples of these countries.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (h/bx2)

229 214 wilson and his wife put us on this path. fdr magnified the fuck out of it. fucking commie gimps.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 04:08 PM (KP5rU)

========

I blame Teddy Roosevelt.

And Calvin Coolidge Junior's blister.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (q80AH)

230 Think about being in Big Green for almost 30 years and then selling out for a payday. On the course of doing that you burned every tradition, code, regulations and ounce of respect.

Only a real POS would put his family in that situation for a lie, slap on the ass and five bucks on the nightstand.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (F73W5)

231 He'll meet justice now when he tries to clear quarters and the Post Engineers bust his balls for dust on the molding etc.

Posted by: dingbat at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (Qkbqn)

232 BUY. AMMO.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (pw+jk)

233 GRAPHIC WARNING: FBI Interviews Alleged Boy Rape Victim of Bill Clinton; Chilling Details of Sex Assaults and Satanic Rituals on Yacht (Video) -True Pundit

https://trends.gab.com/ item/5dd40f4190e9c23476dad69a

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (Hcfsr)

234 The Democrats (and the swamp people in DC) would love to be the Communist Party like it operates in China - where they control EVERYTHING, monitor EVERYBODY, and decide all things. This is the elite mentality that Trump is attacking and is why they absolutely hate him and want to destroy him.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (6h9W9)

235 Dissolve Congress, arrest every Democrat and probably half to 3/4 of the GOP and abolish every single administration and bureaucracy.

I've about had it with all of this.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (zBaqJ)


yep, drastic measures must be taken and only Trump can do this

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (vEIlU)

236 Half of the population have venom in their veins and they can't see straight.


Posted by: artisanal 'ette


The other half can.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (ob5xJ)

237 Eh, I don't see bearclaw getting into much trouble on the Army base. He'll prolly just retire quickly once this is all done when impeachment happens.

Most generals are liberals who love to boss people around, so they don't see vindman as too much of a traitor. They're prolly just pissed about him giving the Army bad press right now.

Posted by: Draki at November 19, 2019 04:10 PM (Fvogs)

238 #nevertrustalibertarian
Not ever
Not even for a cheese sandwich or a bearclaw.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:11 PM (Fxgkp)

239 Dissolve Congress, arrest every Democrat and probably half to 3/4 of the GOP and abolish every single administration and bureaucracy.

I've about had it with all of this.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (zBaqJ)

At this point I would love to paraphrase those who say all is well, but I think you have the best plan, JJ

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:11 PM (U7k5w)

240 ??That's because certain countries are nexuses of money laundering and beak dipping and outright corruption...


So you're saying money laundering was going on in Ukraine?

Who knew?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:11 PM (ZLI7S)

241 Dissolve Congress, arrest every Democrat and probably half to 3/4 of the GOP and abolish every single administration and bureaucracy.

I've about had it with all of this.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (zBaqJ)


oh, and take RBG's pulse

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2019 04:11 PM (vEIlU)

242 "All our problems plus refrigerators that don't get cooler than 50 degrees"

That's positively balmy!

Posted by: Dumbass Euro who only knows metric at November 19, 2019 04:11 PM (eAZVt)

243 "These new Strzok texts are damning
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans"


Any nudes of Lisa Page?

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 19, 2019 04:11 PM (OD2ni)

244 If these assholes ever let their foot off their dumb gas, Trump will break the Overton Window and they know it. There's a lot of America left in America. Trump will set their cause back 30 years or more. He may do it anyway.

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2019 04:11 PM (k9jwM)

245 "They're prolly just pissed about him giving the Army bad press right now."

What bad press?
I haven't seen any except here.

Posted by: atilla the thrilla at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (w7KSn)

246
I like bearclaws. How about Lt. Col. Cruller? Wait, I like crullers too. Wait, Lt. Col. Barium Enema.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (zBaqJ)

247 The essence of self-government, the true right that matters above all others, is the right to say "no." We've learned over the past three years that the American people no longer have that right in most cases, but their nominal employees in the federal government do.
---
Yes! Self-government for the win!

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (DuZls)

248
"We won't be voting ourselves out of this" as has been said many times. I just wonder when the tipping point will be..."

------

The fun part is, nobody ever does.

Sometimes it's a protest in Berlin. Or the President of the Russian Federation rides a tank to the Duma. Or a cadre of young captains just decides enough is enough and does their thang in Ankara.

I like to point out Romania as an example. In December of 1989, nobody could have guessed anything would change in the foreseeable future. It wasn't like the Warsaw Pact - the regime had control.

Then Securitate serves an eviction notice on a Hungarian priest in a backwater like Timisoara for political reasons. And his congregation tries to block them, and some local students join in. And they open fire.

And eleven days later, Bucharest is in chaos and the Ceausescus are put against the wall of a rural schoolhouse and ventilated by a firing squad.

Nobody can say what it will be, but that which can't continue won't, and you can rest assured the day will come.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (AzW6q)

249 Doc Zero is not a real doctor -- but he plays a terrific diagnostician. Like the Dr. Gregory House of contemporary politics, with a 29-year-old Ace as one of his top interns.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (7nCt8)

250 rbg has no pulse.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (KP5rU)

251 Fort Myer, wise ass 3rd IR.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (F73W5)

252 Great piece, and thanks ace for posting.

But I could do it in one sentence - We're not voting, or suing, or legislating our way out of this.

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (77WPm)

253 Under the spoils system, only roughly 10% of the civil service got turned out on average.

I don't know enough to argue this point. But knowing they could go unless motivated to get in line would certainly help with motivation. Gov unions and civil service status should go.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (Jj+59)

254 In a sane world, Vindman would have a job as a Prison Guard, or a Doritos vender- maybe.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (Fxgkp)


Mall cop.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (ptqGC)

255 "I've known Vice President Biden for a long time and those accusations are not credible"

NEXT

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (v0R5T)

256
Repeal the Administrative Procedures Act.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny.

=======

Thank you. I think that's the thing I was looking for.

Although I think Trump should just go "administrative fix" on it same as Obama did to the parts of Obamacare that made actual enforcement of the law...awkward.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (QfRqO)

257 239
At this point I would love to paraphrase those who say all is well, but I think you have the best plan, JJ
Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:11 PM (U7k5w)


All I need is a couple of armored divisions and the Rangers and I think we can muss some hair.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (zBaqJ)

258 Oh, because you've known him for a long time. Really?

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (T6t7i)

259 211 "Biden is an honorable man."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (CqE5x)

Like Brutus.

Posted by: Someguy at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (O+iVW)

260 115 I doubt 10% of Dems could have placed the Ukraine on map or given one piece informational about it or even identified it as a foreign country before this BS phone call became the worst crime n American politics ever. And now I am supposed to believe they are all fainting over the outrage?
Posted by: Ripley at November 19, 2019 03:56 PM (MxEKc)


actually that may not be correct. Seems that a lot of Democrats get paid regularly with checks drawn on Ukraine banks.

For years during the Obama administration, cashing checks from Ukraine banks was all the rage in Democrat circles.

Just ask the Bidens.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (sy5kK)

261
In a sane world, Vindman would have a job as a Prison Guard, or a Doritos vender- maybe.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (Fxgkp)

Mall cop.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

=======

Deputy Jim Dangle, Reno PD.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (QfRqO)

262 "These new Strzok texts are damning

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans"


What texts?

- The entire "totes doesn't pick side" FakeNews Media

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2019 04:14 PM (77WPm)

263 Nobody can say what it will be, but that which can't continue won't, and you can rest assured the day will come.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


Took what? 300? 400 years for Rome?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:14 PM (ob5xJ)

264 Of course you can't trust me if I offer you a cheese sandwich or a bearclaw. If that shit were any good - I wouldn't be giving it away, now would I.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 19, 2019 04:14 PM (zWYuS)

265 I think I'll go wash my hair. I've had about enough of this trained weasel circus.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (ptqGC)

266 who was the mob boss that paid his taxes? now, there's an honorable man.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (KP5rU)

267 -
---

rbg has no pulse.


Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM

--------------------------------

True. She just oozes.

Posted by: irright at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (pMGkg)

268 @240

It's true, Ukraine is a corrupt country but after what we have witnessed over the course of the last three years, it's certainly not the most corrupt.


I'm afraid to say our own country has become indisputably the most corrupt country in the world, present administration excluded.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (h/bx2)

269 "I've known Vice President Biden for a long time and those accusations are not credible"



NEXT

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (v0R5T)

Then maybe he shouldn't have been bragging like a Southie bar drunk about getting a foreign prosecutor fired, eh?

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (77WPm)

270 The Horowitz Part 1 report is out. It;s a sloppy wet fart.
Surprisingly analesque.

Posted by: Galil at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (Pzzpr)

271
In a sane world, Vindman gets court-martialed and the UCMJ thrown at him. Long prison term in the stockade or a short wait for a date with the hangman.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (zBaqJ)

272 "In a sane world, Vindman would have a job as a Prison Guard, or a Doritos vender- maybe.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (Fxgkp)

Mall cop.

Posted by: Jane D'oh "

Fluffer in a Stormy Daniels flick. Which could happen now.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (F73W5)

273 Mary Poppins Piercing.

I am not Iron Grandpa, but here's one quote for you:

Never give in. Never. Never. Never. Never.
If you're going through hell, keep going.
The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

And he was Prime Minister During WWII

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (WI7YS)

274 Gov unions and civil service status should go.
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (Jj+59)


Agreed. If it's so important it has to be done by government, then striking isn't an option. And if you can't strike - what use is a Union in the first place ?

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 19, 2019 04:16 PM (zWYuS)

275 In addition to the permanent bureaucracy, we have the permanent and taxpayer-funded permanent law apparatus. We pay the attorneys' fees for groups like the ACLU and the Natl Resource Defense Counsel. We are paying them to destroy us!

Posted by: PJ at November 19, 2019 04:16 PM (qlTN9)

276 "Biden is an honorable man."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (CqE5x)


It all depends on what "is" is

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2019 04:16 PM (vEIlU)

277 Can w e impeach everyone in COngress?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:16 PM (cEsBM)

278 If the president viewed Biden and Burisma as synonymous, he was doing exactly what he should before sending Ukraine our money. You can disagree with the way he analyzed the situation, but not that he was trying to help himself politically.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2019 04:16 PM (T6t7i)

279 The Horowitz Part 1 report is out. It;s a sloppy wet fart.
Surprisingly analesque.
Posted by: Galil


How many are going to jail?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (ob5xJ)

280 Thank you FenelonSpoke.

Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (QP5Tn)

281 275 In addition to the permanent bureaucracy, we have the permanent and taxpayer-funded permanent law apparatus. We pay the attorneys' fees for groups like the ACLU and the Natl Resource Defense Counsel. We are paying them to destroy us!
Posted by: PJ at November 19, 2019 04:16 PM (qlTN9)


Something about selling them the rope to hang us? Except we're actually giving it to them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (zBaqJ)

282 "Biden is an honorable man."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (CqE5x)

Like Brutus.


Posted by: Someguy


I came THIS close to wall-o-text quoting that soliloquy. Too appropriate.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (Rvlwi)

283 so impeachment; yay or nay?

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (FZYNt)

284 This guy gets it. It's about self-government. It's not always about "liberty", but the liberty of governing our communities.

This means that we shouldn't have judges/experts telling us what is "progress" because we can always disagree on what is progress. We can double back and think "You know? That wasn't progress at all."

The modern American government is built for the ideological because it has a Crusade as its model and not the discussion of peers trying to figure out How Shall We Live.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (DuZls)

285 Oh, my God! It just dawned on me!

We are the EU!

Posted by: RobertM at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (XM+yE)

286 The Horowitz Part 1 report is out. It;s a sloppy wet fart.
Surprisingly analesque.
Posted by: Galil at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (Pzzpr)


...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (vEIlU)

287 sorry been actually working today

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (FZYNt)

288 These new Strzok texts are damning
In what way?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (r+sAi)

289 >>>13 The voters should just defer to experts like me and Max Boot. After all, when have we ever been wrong about foreign policy.
Posted by: "The Expert" Tom Nichols

Do you breakfast with Lt. Col. Bearclaw? Just wondering.

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (PbpT7)

290 We aren't voting our way out of this.

Posted by: WOPR at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (XvDsk)

291 Doc Zero was the best thing to ever come out of Tepid Gas other than the founder, Malkin.

And he got his start in the comments iirc, then did some writing in their sidebar section as a minor cob, before moving on to Breitbart.

And he's in fine form, as this his classic rant-style. He oughta patent it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (Z4rgH)

292 >>How many are going to jail?

Posted by: rickb223 a

None. The process is flawed. We'll fix it so it doesn't happen again.

Posted by: Galil at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (Pzzpr)

293 k to Home
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@Techno_Fog
BREAKING - new @SidneyPowell1 filing in the Flynn case.

Lisa Page edited the Flynn 302.

James Clapper told WaPo reporter Ignatius to basically "take the kill shot on Flynn"

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (BqBId)

294 He stopped Volker from curing cancer.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:00 PM (v0R5T)

The only thing this asshole is curing is insomnia.

Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (oh+79)

295 rbg has no pulse.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM
.........

Rutabagas usually don't.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (v0R5T)

296 Interesting...

@WashTimes 2m

Pennsylvania Democrat switches to independent, will caucus with Republicans

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (1Vobx)

297 The majority of the People want Socialism. They do NOT want Trump.

Posted by: No at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (HDJRL)

298 We can double back and think "You know? That wasn't progress at all."

There's nothing magical about a fence. Sometimes, it's just a bullshit barrier put up by an asshole.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (zWYuS)

299 And Mary Poppins Piercing-Your posts sounds very colored by depression. If you're really thinking of not going on, read this:

lostallhope.com/help-me/surviving-today

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (WI7YS)

300 >>It's true, Ukraine is a corrupt country but after what we have witnessed over the course of the last three years, it's certainly not the most corrupt.

Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe and one of the most corrupt countries in the world. It's barely even a real country, more of a collection of crooks and special interests that foreign countries have sought to control and poured billions and billions of dollars into for years which magically seemed to mostly disappear.

It has been ground zero for money laundering and corruption for years and that is what this is all about.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:19 PM (ZLI7S)

301 220 207 That ought to be PDT's SOTU address in January.

Delivered in front of them from the well of congress, not from the oval office. Let the cameras roll along the faces of Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, and all the rest.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 19, 2019 04:07 PM (+fPHo)


Dissolve Congress, arrest every Democrat and probably half to 3/4 of the GOP and abolish every single administration and bureaucracy.

I've about had it with all of this.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (zBaqJ)

The President does have Constitutional authority to convene and adjourn Congress.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2019 04:19 PM (Izzlo)

302 vindman throws pepper in his crotch and grabs his dick with a tweezers to piss.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 04:19 PM (KP5rU)

303 sorry been actually working today
Posted by: Rick in SK at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (FZYNt)
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Of all the nerve.

Posted by: bluebell at November 19, 2019 04:19 PM (aXucN)

304 Posted by: No at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (HDJRL)

Why do you hate America?

Posted by: Chris M at November 19, 2019 04:19 PM (eAZVt)

305 @WashTimes 2m



Pennsylvania Democrat switches to independent, will caucus with Republicans

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (1Vobx)

Say what now?

Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2019 04:19 PM (77WPm)

306 Oh, look, it's No. Must be a break in the bukkake until the next group gets there.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 19, 2019 04:19 PM (vg8iE)

307 "At No Time Was I Aware of -- an Effort to Urge Ukraine to Investigate Vice President Biden" -- Ambassador Volker RUINS Schiff's Day at Tuesday Show Trial

Is this what they call a soft landing?


Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2019 04:19 PM (vEIlU)

308 Vindman should be hanged there for attempting a coup on the CinC.


Replace the voters?

Fuck that.

Water the Tree of Liberty.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (fp3O


Sharkman, cutting to the chase.

Yup.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:20 PM (sy5kK)

309 The majority of the People want Socialism. They do NOT want Trump.

Posted by: No


"The People" being defined as the bureaucrats and corrupt officials at all levels.

Don't worry. I know you wish to join them. I'm sure you'll get your wish.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 19, 2019 04:20 PM (Rvlwi)

310 285 Oh, my God! It just dawned on me!

We are the EU!

Posted by: RobertM at November 19, 2019 04:17 PM (XM+yE)

No, the unnacountable all powerful bureaucracy is not a specific feature of the EU but absolutist states. They are first created to serve the executive(so called strong rulers) and become the true rulers over time.

Posted by: Someguy at November 19, 2019 04:20 PM (O+iVW)

311 And this fucker Vindman.. who needs him? These people are just getting in the way.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
//
You mean we don't need a foreign policy coordinator? WTF is that?

Posted by: PJ at November 19, 2019 04:20 PM (qlTN9)

312 Volker says he did know that Hunter Biden was on the board, but didn't think there was any problem with that.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2019 04:21 PM (sGotD)

313 The Horowitz Part 1 report is out. It;s a sloppy wet fart.<<<<<<<<
Horowitz will come shart.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2019 04:21 PM (r+sAi)

314 >>Volker says he did know that Hunter Biden was on the board, but didn't think there was any problem with that.

Seems legit.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (ZLI7S)

315 That Pa. Democrat switching to Ind. & caucusing with R's wouldn't happen to be Conor Lamb would it ?

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (BqBId)

316
Lol. One thing I've learned from listening to these Deep State blowhards the past several days, is they love the sound of their own voices. And they really do believe they're "the tip of the spear." Just like the men who've fought and died in every war we've ever had.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 04:08 PM (ptqGC)


Hillary ran the State Dept for 4 years.

Now I understand where she got her stories about being under fire in Bosnia, or whatever the hell she lied about.

Her underlings.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (sy5kK)

317 hunter biden is the original demented circus monkey.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (KP5rU)

318 oh man


Mike Cernovich @Cernovich

During Ranger School, LTC Vindman kept getting low peer ratings because "he was lazy and a chow thief," a Ranger School classmate of Vindman has said.

Battalion Rangers wanted him out, said he was POS.

I won't out sources but here is class picture.


https://tinyurl.com/trsgrnx

good times, good times

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (vEIlU)

319 All Democrats are on the take. What's the big deal?

Posted by: Chris M at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (eAZVt)

320

Dale Carnegie

Most of the important things in the world have been accomplished by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all.

More quotes in the "inspirational quotes" section from the website linked in 229

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (WI7YS)

321 Epstein Prison Guards Arrested for Failing to Check on Him

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (Fxgkp)

322 312 Volker says he did know that Hunter Biden was on the board, but didn't think there was any problem with that.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2019 04:21 PM (sGotD)


No concerns about how a coke addled man of no accomplishment managed to get that position?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (Uu+Jp)

323 Yudhishthira's Dice: "Nobody can say what it will be, but that which can't continue won't, and you can rest assured the day will come."

I both welcome and dread that day. But I agree, it will come. May not happen in my lifetime, but history always rhymes. The only unknown is the outcome.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (6eEQ+)

324 -
--
@WashTimes 2m



Pennsylvania Democrat switches to independent, will caucus with Republicans


Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM

-------------------------

So much easier to play Lucy with the football this way. The Dems will retaliate if I do that to them. The stupid repubs will STILL kiss my butt every single time.

Posted by: the "independent" at November 19, 2019 04:22 PM (pMGkg)

325 Lisa Page edited the Flynn 302.



James Clapper told WaPo reporter Ignatius to basically "take the kill shot on Flynn"

That has been known for sometime.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2019 04:23 PM (r+sAi)

326 Dissolve Congress, arrest every Democrat and probably half to 3/4 of the GOP and abolish every single administration and bureaucracy.

I've about had it with all of this.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:09 PM (zBaqJ)


This is why I love you like a brother, J.J.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 19, 2019 04:23 PM (Ki5SV)

327 Say what now?

Posted by: DocJ at Novem



State level Dem.

Posted by: Ha at November 19, 2019 04:23 PM (Q5eBq)

328 >>Volker says he did know that Hunter Biden was on the board, but didn't think there was any problem with that.



Maybe because John Kerry's kid, Mitt Romney's kid, and Nancy Pelosi's kid were all on Ukraine energy co. boards as well?

Everyone's doing it, so it must be OK!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2019 04:24 PM (bDqIh)

329 I was juggling a bunch of these scenarios, just to see how it comes out in a different circumstance.

And I thought to myself that if Trump were going after his political enemies, and had changed the qualifications under which official complaints can be made just to get his political foes, I'd think a lot less of Trump.

Another thing I thought is why would they call conservatives "conspiracy theorists"? It's suddenly a conspiracy to fear misuse of the power of government agencies that have the power to prosecute and imprison you and the right to secure things away from the public's knowledge?

I mean if you like conspiracy theories, why isn't that Trump is in control of the Democratic Party/acting as a distraction target of the Democratic Party or Schiff is actually working for Trump a more interesting "conspiracy theory"?

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2019 04:24 PM (DuZls)

330 Don't worry. I know you wish to join them. I'm sure you'll get your wish.
Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 19, 2019 04:20 PM (Rvlwi)

No scarcity of lamp posts, when the time comes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2019 04:24 PM (/sgva)

331 193


Dissolve the people and install another = Open Borders Mass Migration.

QED


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 19, 2019 04:05 PM (zBaqJ)


Why, yes. As a matter of fact, this is EXACTLY the plan!

But good news, those still left will be paying even higher tax rates. They still have value, too.

Posted by: Democrat-led Uniparty Overlords at November 19, 2019 04:24 PM (sy5kK)

332 Yudichak, who endorsed Democrat Joe Biden for president last month, has also had his eye on higher office, telling colleagues recently that he was considering running for state auditor general.
*******
That is the "Switcher" hahaha

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:24 PM (BqBId)

333 Our foreign policy expects on the Ukraine did not know dick about biden's son, the dope addict, but PDT burps and they are all over it?

Yeah right. I believe that.

LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:24 PM (cEsBM)

334 >> LTC Vindman kept getting low peer ratings because "he was lazy and a chow thief," a Ranger School classmate of Vindman has said.


Can't blame him.


Chow are delicious.

Posted by: Barack Hussein O'Dogeater at November 19, 2019 04:24 PM (yDWtO)

335 http://bit.ly/2Qw99lI
******
Story about Political Whore

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:25 PM (BqBId)

336 Any nudes of Lisa Page?

Posted by: Benji Carver


Only of her gums, sadly.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2019 04:25 PM (fp3O8)

337 Mr. Morrisson, the Lizard King, is up.

Who is ready to Ride the Snake?

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 04:25 PM (yDWtO)

338 the open border is the "replacement of those nasty Trump voters" that is why Democrats are "tear down the wall"

Posted by: US citizen at November 19, 2019 04:26 PM (0hOKG)

339 The majority of the People want Socialism. They do NOT want Trump.

Posted by: No

"The People" being defined as the bureaucrats and corrupt officials at all levels.

Don't worry. I know you wish to join them. I'm sure you'll get your wish.
Posted by: Brother Cavil


And the Free Shit Army.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:26 PM (ob5xJ)

340 300 >>It's true, Ukraine is a corrupt country but after what we have witnessed over the course of the last three years, it's certainly not the most corrupt.

Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe and one of the most corrupt countries in the world. It's barely even a real country, more of a collection of crooks and special interests that foreign countries have sought to control and poured billions and billions of dollars into for years which magically seemed to mostly disappear.

It has been ground zero for money laundering and corruption for years and that is what this is all about.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:19 PM (ZLI7S)


It is the Democrat's 51st State!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:26 PM (sy5kK)

341 If Lt COL bEARCLAW IS ON BASE STAYING SAFE,
CAN THE aRMY JUST THROW HIS ASS IN THE BRIG FOR SEDITION?

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2019 04:26 PM (d7Ww2)

342 Is Vindman the Whistleblowers source

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2019 04:26 PM (N8JJR)

343 shit

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2019 04:26 PM (d7Ww2)

344 You guys make the Ukraine sound a lot like Newark.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 19, 2019 04:26 PM (zWYuS)

345 This is really beginning to chap my ass!

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (wo3c/)

346 Call Victoria Nuland to testify, just to shake things up a bit.

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (Fxgkp)

347 The Mexican constitution prohibits the altering of the country's demographics. Go figure.

Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (QP5Tn)

348 Anyone who didn't see a problem with Hunter Biden being on ANY board (other than a pharmaceutical's) should be fired for incompetence. And any who had oversight authority but looked the other way should further be investigated for collusion.

Americans who foot these bills have been robbed long enough.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (6eEQ+)

349 >>>18 Yes, they have that conceit. Many people throughout history have had that conceit. Right up to the point that things changed for them.


The surest way of losing the Mandate of Heaven is believing you do not need the Mandate of Heaven.

...

that's some Sam Jackson sounding shit right there

Posted by: ace at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (PbpT7)

350 Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2019 04:26 PM (d7Ww2)

BEN ROETHLISBERGER would like a word...

Posted by: Insomniac at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (jUYzd)

351 Volker: it's all just a bunch of conspiracy theories.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (sGotD)

352 "I graduated from Navy Supply Corps Officer School in Athens, GA on Friday 6/23/1989,"

Well, well, well - Navy Supply Corps Officer School graduate June 1985

Good to have another Chop on the thread I never knew

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (32YRo)

353 So Bearclaw admits he is lying now (from the side bar).

Huh?

Posted by: Max Power at November 19, 2019 04:28 PM (q177U)

354 The Mexican constitution prohibits the altering of the country's demographics. Go figure.

Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (QP5Tn)
---
They're closer to the bananas, so they could see something like this coming.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2019 04:28 PM (DuZls)

355 -
--
Is Vindman the Whistleblowers source


Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2019 04:26 PM

------------------

Of pastries? No.
Those are for him.

Posted by: irright at November 19, 2019 04:28 PM (pMGkg)

356 From the sidebar:

LTC Bearclaw who was awarded the Silver Spoon (with Honey Nut Cluster)


LOL

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:28 PM (ob5xJ)

357 Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe and one of the most corrupt countries in the world. It's barely even a real country, more of a collection of crooks and special interests that foreign countries have sought to control and poured billions and billions of dollars into for years which magically seemed to mostly disappear.

Mexico says "Hold my Beer".

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2019 04:28 PM (Kpl3J)

358 All these bureaucrats talk like fags.

Portfolio. Dossier.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:28 PM (ZLI7S)

359 The Mexican constitution prohibits the altering of the country's demographics. Go figure.
Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (QP5Tn)

Wouldn't that make them sending all their illiterate Mayans to America unconstitutional, then?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2019 04:29 PM (/sgva)

360 Good to have another Chop on the thread I never knew

Posted by: Boswell


Indeed. Where were you stationed?

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2019 04:29 PM (fp3O8)

361 114 Rudy is a bad, bad man.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (ZLI7S)
+++++++++

If by Rudy, you mean Rudy Contreras, the crooked bastard jusge that approved the first FISA request, then yes.

Posted by: Pissed off Patriot at November 19, 2019 04:29 PM (JNTt1)

362
The Democrats (and the swamp people in DC) would love to be the Communist Party like it operates in China - where they control EVERYTHING, monitor EVERYBODY, and decide all things. This is the elite mentality that Trump is attacking and is why they absolutely hate him and want to destroy him.
Posted by: Mike Hunt

=======

Oh hell yeah. You remember Tom Friedman's column, "China for a Day"? All about how cool it would be if just for one day Obama could be the Chinese Commie Party Secretary and enact every lefty shyt program on the agenda.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 04:29 PM (QfRqO)

363 This is really beginning to chap my ass!

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2019 04:27 PM (wo3c/)
.........

maybe take them off and put on some Levis.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:29 PM (v0R5T)

364 356 From the sidebar:

LTC Bearclaw who was awarded the Silver Spoon (with Honey Nut Cluster)


LOL
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:28 PM (ob5xJ)

---

rofl

Posted by: SMH at November 19, 2019 04:29 PM (RU4sa)

365 >>LTC Bearclaw who was awarded the Silver Spoon (with Honey Nut Cluster)


That's good stuff.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 04:29 PM (yDWtO)

366 The democrats' whole theory of impeachment is just a giant concern troll.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 19, 2019 04:30 PM (Xqo6t)

367 Can't blame him.


Chow are delicious.
Posted by: Barack Hussein O'Dogeater at November 19, 2019 04:24 PM (yDWtO)

I know that some people slightly annoyed when you or somebody else does this on the pet thread, but when we get these "It's all over threads" I find a bit of levity helpful. Thanks/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 04:30 PM (WI7YS)

368 that's some Sam Jackson sounding shit right there


Posted by: ace at

"There are muther f-ing snakes in this muther f-ing government!" - Other Sam Jackson sounding shit...

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2019 04:30 PM (32YRo)

369 290 We aren't voting our way out of this.

Posted by: WOPR at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (XvDsk)


No, we are not. Because the middle and upper management ranks of the Civil Service and Foreign service are mostly committed Democrats. They do the hiring for their Departments and Agencies, so can emplace fellow thinkers as they wish in any open jobs. And as a former Civil Servant, I can tell you that a manager always gets the person he wants. Job descriptions can be tailored as-needed, and the managers can count on HR finding loopholes in the hiring rules, if needed.

Posted by: Gref at November 19, 2019 04:30 PM (AMIL/)

370 312
Volker says he did know that Hunter Biden was on the board, but didn't think there was any problem with that.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2019 04:21 PM (sGotD)

WTFF? He was the fucking U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine! What would you say you do here, Kurt.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (1CjJc)

371 Has no one ever been tempted to pop Pencil Neck's eyes out of his head with a dessert spoon?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (Uu+Jp)

372 One of the Russian Czars, prior to Nicholas II, is said to have exclaimed in frustration "I am not Czar of all the Russians. I am Czar of ten thousand bureaucrats."

Nothing changes, does it?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (FTlwv)

373 Sean Davis @seanmdav

Multiple combat veterans have told me they are livid at this attitude from Vindman, at his use of the uniform as a prop for the cameras, and at his obvious scheming against and insubordination towards his chain of command.


So the showboating in uniform is actually hurting their cause. Who-da-thunk?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (vEIlU)

374 All these bureaucrats talk like fags.

Portfolio. Dossier.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:28 PM (ZLI7S)
..........

administrative error. Inter-agency consensus. please insert your penis in my rectum.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (v0R5T)

375
No.

No more speeches, no more pamphlets.

Just get down to business. If they can't figure out why, that's on them.
Posted by: Brother Cavil

=======

You have a point.

Maybe for the record, for posterity, and so lefty shyt historians can't put words in our mouths.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (QfRqO)

376 It's quite telling when even here in the People's Republic of Seattle, the hearings are getting very little airtime. And NO ONE at work is talking about it. I brought it up to a couple of my more vocal libtard coworkers and they rolled their eyes and walked away.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (d7Ww2)

377 We need alex topia now for real.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (pokz/)

378 The tree of liberty is getting mighty thirsty.

Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot. at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (0OmEj)

379 "I've known Vice President Biden for a long time and those accusations are not credible"



NEXT

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:13 PM (v0R5T)

Then maybe he shouldn't have been bragging like a Southie bar drunk about getting a foreign prosecutor fired, eh?
Posted by: DocJ at November 19, 2019 04:15 PM (77WPm)




According to AP's "fact check" Biden did nothing wrong. Because they say so

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2019 04:32 PM (mpeBU)

380
And eleven days later, Bucharest is in chaos and the Ceausescus are put against the wall of a rural schoolhouse and ventilated by a firing squad.

Nobody can say what it will be, but that which can't continue won't, and you can rest assured the day will come.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2019 04:12 PM (AzW6q)


And in our version, the Ceausescus will be played by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, with Adam Schiff as "The Beaver".

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (sy5kK)

381 Indeed. Where were you stationed?

Posted by: Sharkman

First to the pool in San Diego - then on to Sasebo Japan, then to Whidbey Island - then finally to Charleston on an FFG...finally got out in '92 after 8 years total...

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (32YRo)

382 >>>Portfolio. Dossier.

and "package"

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (dnjy6)

383 Good call on the concern troll articles of impeachment

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (Fxgkp)

384 All comes down to immigration. Import tens of millions of people from corrupt countries, and this is the result.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (zkFz1)

385 No more speeches, no more pamphlets.

Just get down to business. If they can't figure out why, that's on them.
Posted by: Brother Cavil

=======

You have a point.

Maybe for the record, for posterity, and so lefty shyt historians can't put words in our mouths.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


If there's lefty historians left, we didn't do our jobs correctly.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (ob5xJ)

386 >>378
The tree of liberty is getting mighty thirsty.

There are many walls in Washington DC.

Posted by: Galil at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (Pzzpr)

387 I saw this series of tweets earlier and yeah

it does put one in a mood

but ever so correct. the leviathan does not care about voters. with fiat money it doesn't even care about taxpayers

it just GROWS and protects itself and GROWS

and out of necessity it must need grow larger than even the US - it will have to be Global

"Mr World" - as Neil Gaiman had it in American Gods, with Media as his servant.

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (Rarvo)

388 the tree of liberty is a distant, but fond fucking memory.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (KP5rU)

389 Reduction to E 1 and 10 years hard labor in Leavenworth.

Good news is you're very unlikely to get ass raped in the military prison.

Bad news is you're much more likely to get wall-to-wall counseling and thumping for bad attitude.

Posted by: Uncle Sam at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (aVQdN)

390 >>We need alex topia now for real.


The New Cruelty will be a blessing to us all.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (yDWtO)

391 Bearclaw!
*nom nom nom*

Posted by: Pam Poovey at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (jUYzd)

392
administrative error. Inter-agency consensus. please insert your penis in my rectum.
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (v0R5T)
********
Thank God I didn't have a mouthful of Iced Tea

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (BqBId)

393 373: Hurting it with the military. But the donks are begging for more

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:34 PM (U7k5w)

394 374
All these bureaucrats talk like fags.



Portfolio. Dossier.



Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:28 PM (ZLI7S)

..........



administrative error. Inter-agency consensus. please insert your penis in my rectum.

Posted by: wth at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (v0R5T)

To be fair, that was Schiff's opening statement.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2019 04:34 PM (1CjJc)

395 I got a flat tire yesterday and took it in to the shop today. In the waiting area, the impeachment hearings on Fox were on. None of the people sitting there paid any attention to the TV. They looked at their phones or magazines. I read a book.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at November 19, 2019 04:34 PM (d6Ksn)

396 Almost zero impeachment hearings talk in my office either. Aside from 2 ultra-libs, Flaming Gay Guy and Aging Hippie Chick, who couldn't get anyone else interested and so just commiserate between themselves.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 19, 2019 04:34 PM (1XNk8)

397 Trump has Rudy.

Obama had ValJar.

On an evil scale from 1 to 10, I'd rate Rudy at 2, and ValJar at 5,000.

Posted by: Gref at November 19, 2019 04:34 PM (AMIL/)

398 390
>>We need alex topia now for real.





The New Cruelty will be a blessing to us all.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 04:33 PM (yDWtO)

But the bosoms will be bountiful.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2019 04:34 PM (1CjJc)

399 Sean Davis @seanmdav

Multiple combat veterans have told me they are livid at this attitude from Vindman, at his use of the uniform as a prop for the cameras, and at his obvious scheming against and insubordination towards his chain of command.




Jed Babbin was on a local radio station this morning and said this guy was probably getting coffee for higher ups and somehow got in his head that he should be deciding what foreign policy should be

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (mpeBU)

400 All those cocks on the left heaping praise on that fat bastard but critisize PDT for freeing our brave Seals and other Special Forces guys. Fuck them and the bitch they rode in on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (cEsBM)

401 With all of this conviction you would think we'd have Civil Servants setting themselves on fire, like so many
Laotian monks, every day. All around DC.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (yDWtO)

402 If we cannot vote them out, then I guess we will just have to use alternative means.

Posted by: JSchuler at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (ySdHR)

403 they keep saying "official US policy".. these assholes really believe THEY are the ones creating foreign policy.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (so+oy)

404 Far as I'm concerned if a bill to recompense the People that voted for Trump for the wasted time and money during the last 4 years by allowing Trump to serve an additional term would be okay with me.

If enough people get pissy I'd even allow just to let him run again after 2 terms.

I mean really. Did he get the opportunities that other Presidents have had? Not even a honeymoon. The divorce was filed before the marriage vows were said and those were "F**k You" and "Orange Man Bad".

Yeah that would really toast the left's cookies. It might even shock them into silence.

.
.
.
Nay. Who'm I kidding?

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (cxIsI)

405 Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (mpeBU)
******
So like Clinton thought Obama would be doing

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (BqBId)

406 Wouldn't that make them sending all their illiterate Mayans to America unconstitutional, then


They have an excess of those so they don't mind. I think that feature was meant supposedly to protect the Indians and mestizos but in reality was intended to protect their minority white elite. What the white elites in Mexico are doing is 'cleansing' themselves of their surplus of undesirables. But we cant point out the obvious because only white anglo people can be racist you see.

Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (QP5Tn)

407 First to the pool in San Diego - then on to Sasebo Japan, then to Whidbey Island - then finally to Charleston on an FFG...finally got out in '92 after 8 years total...

Posted by: Boswell


Nice.

I got out in 92 as well after 4.

Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (fp3O8)

408 why is legal MJ ok, but vaping nicotine somehow evil?

why do TPTB want us eating carby garbage and avoiding lean meat?

why are 1 in 4 adults on a mood medication?

they've solved the problem the Ceaucescus faced

it's a Brave New World

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 19, 2019 04:36 PM (Rarvo)

409 So I'm wondering if any on our side has spoken to the dem peons. That we-they can vote our little hearts out and it doesn't mean crap. Unl as our deep state controllers approve. Do the even think this through?
That deepvstaters have made it obvious we only have pretense as election .

You'd think even they would be concerned .

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2019 04:36 PM (pokz/)

410 >>If we cannot vote them out, then I guess we will just have to use alternative means.


We need to double the Butter Rations.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 04:36 PM (yDWtO)

411 They have an excess of those so they don't mind. I think that feature was meant supposedly to protect the Indians and mestizos but in reality was intended to protect their minority white elite. What the white elites in Mexico are doing is 'cleansing' themselves of their surplus of undesirables. But we cant point out the obvious because only white anglo people can be racist you see.


like everywhere, in Mexico the Spanish/upper crust aren't reproducing enough

therefore they NEED to offshore the surplus Mestizos, to keep the demographics in balance.

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 19, 2019 04:37 PM (Rarvo)

412 Like a cool breeze across the neck.

Posted by: Loo-wee XVI at November 19, 2019 04:37 PM (BrfST)

413 This Goldman dude is sharp as a beachball. My eyes are bleeding.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 19, 2019 04:37 PM (WQZ1O)

414 If we cannot vote them out, then I guess we will just have to use alternative means.


Well... hypothetically speaking, if hearsay is as valuable as direct evidence, then I think that we, the people, should start targeting these unelected minions with hearsay that will endanger their cushy jobs with Uncle Sugar.

/seems like a job for Reddit or 4Chan.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at November 19, 2019 04:37 PM (Wmf3G)

415 To help move the inclination towards a Uncivil War I could see how the voters for Trump should make sure any and all Democrats who win any office should be harrassed and sued for the term of the office.

No more Halo pictures. No more slobbering mikes while interviewing them and definitely no obeying any laws they say they've passed.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at November 19, 2019 04:37 PM (cxIsI)

416 396: Sad that the donks can try to overturn the election and most people are playing with their phones. I don't mistake this for a great turn of events.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:38 PM (U7k5w)

417 23 Ace, you gotta read this: https://bit.ly/2QCdVOH
The whole thing.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (CQ3Qb)

Stzrok was just SUSPENDED for 60 days?

So, he gets to keep his retirement and everything else???

WTF?

Posted by: Don Q at November 19, 2019 04:38 PM (NgKpN)

418 #nevertrustalibertarian
not ever
not for any reason

Posted by: Priscilla Hutchin's turkey baster at November 19, 2019 04:38 PM (Fxgkp)

419 they keep saying "official US policy".. these assholes really believe THEY are the ones creating foreign policy.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry


If we don't stop them, they are.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:38 PM (ob5xJ)

420 Since it has clearly been demonstrated, 'We the People' no longer have 'rule of law' nor a fair and impartial judiciary. That leaves us only one way to defend ourselves: The second amendment. Our Founders were brilliant, and understood the nature of man.
Washington DC was a nice place, sure would be a shame if something were to happen to it...

Posted by: TheFoundersParty at November 19, 2019 04:38 PM (QAVtQ)

421 Rudy is a bad, bad man.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 03:55 PM (ZLI7S)

He's been careless with the feelings of a delicate Lt Col.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at November 19, 2019 04:38 PM (3Cbfx)

422 They should really be doing this whole Charade on a Tennis Court.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 04:38 PM (yDWtO)

423 Chuck Ross
@ChuckRossDC
Just for the sake of knowing, I want to find out the details of the game of telephone that went from Vindman, to (probably) the whistleblower, to Schiff's office, to the IC IG, and then to the media.


Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC
2h
Reading what I just wrote, I'm not trying to imply the IC IG leaked to the media. Just talking about the echo chamber in general, led mostly by Schiff.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:38 PM (BqBId)

424 The majority of the People want Socialism. They do NOT want Trump.

lol. Screaming twitter banshees are not the "majority of the people"

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 19, 2019 04:39 PM (uGHnY)

425 There is no "voting our way out of this". The country is a statistical tie as far as voting goes, with and without voter fraud.

When the Dem's have their nominee that will be the time for serious reflection.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2019 04:39 PM (L+got)

426 Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Sharkman

And you Sharkman!

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2019 04:39 PM (32YRo)

427 Garret I bet they won't even buy us a nice dinner first.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2019 04:39 PM (pokz/)

428 376 It's quite telling when even here in the People's Republic of Seattle, the hearings are getting very little airtime. And NO ONE at work is talking about it. I brought it up to a couple of my more vocal libtard coworkers and they rolled their eyes and walked away.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2019 04:31 PM (d7Ww2)


nurse, that is interesting. You work in a very "woke" environment, and if they are even realizing this activity is just Shampeachment, it means their side is becoming demoralized.

Which makes me smile.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:39 PM (sy5kK)

429
Oh hell yeah. You remember Tom Friedman's column, "China for a Day"? All about how cool it would be if just for one day Obama could be the Chinese Commie Party Secretary and enact every lefty shyt program on the agenda.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


Who would be Obama's Uighurs?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2019 04:40 PM (aKsyK)

430 392
administrative error. Inter-agency consensus. please insert your penis in my rectum.
Posted by: wth
********
Thank God I didn't have a mouthful of Iced Tea

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit
------------
I wasn't so lucky... Mt. Dew launched.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 19, 2019 04:40 PM (mfjYD)

431 >>The majority of the People want Socialism.


The majority of the people in america would leave you dying in a ditch, 15 miles outside of town, if you tried pedaling that shit.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 04:40 PM (yDWtO)

432 Stzrok was just SUSPENDED for 60 days?

So, he gets to keep his retirement and everything else???

WTF?
Posted by: Don Q at November 19, 2019 04:38 PM (NgKpN)

To be fair, 60 day's suspension should be adequate.

If by the neck.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2019 04:40 PM (/sgva)

433 Wouldn't that make them sending all their illiterate Mayans to America unconstitutional, then?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2019 04:29 PM (/sgva)

The Mexican Constitution is a lot like the Pirates Code. It's really a whole lot more like 'Guidelines", rather than laws.

they take the same attitude towards traffic laws, if you've ever been on their roads.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2019 04:40 PM (Kpl3J)

434 Who would be Obama's Uighurs?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2019 04:40 PM (aKsyK)
+++++++++++
Us.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 19, 2019 04:40 PM (I2dne)

435 oh man



Mike Cernovich @Cernovich



During Ranger School, LTC Vindman kept getting low peer ratings
because "he was lazy and a chow thief," a Ranger School classmate of
Vindman has said.



Battalion Rangers wanted him out, said he was POS.

------------------------------
When I went through Ranger School (1986) if you got peered low, you were recycled.

Posted by: Jolo at November 19, 2019 04:41 PM (WrMOC)

436 I am so glad somebody to the time to find out 94% of tweets are made by 6% of tweeters. Its such a small group with outsized mouths and definitely outsized influence.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2019 04:41 PM (r+sAi)

437 Marine BQC Instructor Athens, Ga 2000-2004!

Posted by: Georgia Jarhead at November 19, 2019 04:42 PM (b7n2g)

438 >>When I went through Ranger School (1986) if you got peered low, you were recycled.


I found that the key was to be so badass that you had no actual peers. True Story.

Posted by: Dick Blumenthal (D -CT) at November 19, 2019 04:42 PM (yDWtO)

439
Chuck Ross
@ChuckRossDC
Just for the sake of knowing, I want to find out the details of the game of telephone that went from Vindman, to (probably) the whistleblower, to Schiff's office, to the IC IG, and then to the media.


Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC
2h
Reading what I just wrote, I'm not trying to imply the IC IG leaked to the media. Just talking about the echo chamber in general, led mostly by Schiff.

=======

This is EXACTLY what Schiff has cut off.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 19, 2019 04:42 PM (QfRqO)

440 432: Yep, they're sure getting tough with these bastards!

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (U7k5w)

441 I wasn't so lucky... Mt. Dew launched.
Posted by:
*******
OH BOY!!! that will be fun cleanup

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (BqBId)

442 FTSB - I think the hardest part of Michael Avenatti's impending prison stay will be the complete isolation from Twitter



and the daily rape, but mostly, the rape thing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (TGWxN)

443 432 Stzrok was just SUSPENDED for 60 days?

So, he gets to keep his retirement and everything else???"

I don't really know what you're referring to; back in 2018, the FBI originally suggested that Strzrok be suspended for 60 days, but then that recommendation was overruled and Stzrok was fired.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (Kpl3J)

444 jakee308: "Far as I'm concerned if a bill to recompense the People that voted for Trump for the wasted time and money during the last 4 years by allowing Trump to serve an additional term would be okay with me."

And this is how an entrenched bureaucracy and self-serving "representation" gets shoved aside in favor of a strongman. Judicial and Legislative tyranny will be replaced by an Executive one and it will be welcomed by the volk.

The powers that be either know this and think they'll select the tyrant or don't know this and simply push their own tyranny thinking only they can reign.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (6eEQ+)

445 The uniform is a shot at Col Oliver North and Reagan.

They're doing a Kabuki of all the past impeachments only as parody and farce.

They'll be doing that hallway door thing pretty soon.

Maids in uniform with half dressed older gentlemen with garters.

And of course the Piece de resistance would be Boots Randolph doing Yakkety Sax in the background.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (cxIsI)

446 433 Wouldn't that make them sending all their illiterate Mayans to America unconstitutional, then?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2019 04:29 PM (/sgva)

The Mexican Constitution is a lot like the Pirates Code. It's really a whole lot more like 'Guidelines", rather than laws.

they take the same attitude towards traffic laws, if you've ever been on their roads.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2019 04:40 PM (Kpl3J)

When did the cartels start writing Constitutions, let alone guidelines?

Posted by: Someguy at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (O+iVW)

447 23 Ace, you gotta read this: https://bit.ly/2QCdVOH
The whole thing.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 19, 2019 03:43 PM (CQ3Qb)

After many, many interruptions, I finally got through the whole thing.

He got off too easy if you ask me. But I imagine his home life is a living hell:

(A snip from the report that @Techno Fog provided):

https://tinyurl.com/vp4sy6n

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (cF8AT)

448 "they take the same attitude towards traffic laws, if you've ever been on their roads."

Our roads too! My BIL was left paralyzed by an illegal.

Posted by: Chris M at November 19, 2019 04:44 PM (eAZVt)

449 >>I don't really know what you're referring to; back in 2018, the FBI originally suggested that Strzrok be suspended for 60 days, but then that recommendation was overruled and Stzrok was fired.

Why must you spoil my fun?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:44 PM (ZLI7S)

450 Stzrok was just SUSPENDED for 60 days?

So, he gets to keep his retirement and everything else???

WTF?
Posted by: Don Q


They aren't even going after the nickle bag dealers.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 04:44 PM (ob5xJ)

451 Eric Swallwell didn't shart himself.

Posted by: E. Swallwell at November 19, 2019 04:45 PM (DuZls)

452 Marine BQC Instructor Athens, Ga 2000-2004!


Posted by: Georgia Jarhead

I went back there again to their aviation supply officer school - the place had never changed...it was such nice place to be between ship details, I must say.

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2019 04:45 PM (32YRo)

453 Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (6eEQ+)

Sometimes you have to go with the flow. It's a shame but if the flow is towards a strong man government then we deserve what's happened.

Every damn bit of it because WE, Yes, you and me and everyone else) allowed these f**kers to get away with shit for years.

And we knew it was bad and needed to stop but no one had the guts to stand up and say so and keep saying so and there weren't anyone to stand up with them anyway.

And I include myself.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at November 19, 2019 04:46 PM (cxIsI)

454 312 Volker says he did know that Hunter Biden was on the board, but didn't think there was any problem with that.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2019 04:21 PM (sGotD)

Didn't Obama's State dept. have a problem with it?

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2019 04:47 PM (cF8AT)

455 403: Yeah like in the Constitution where it says unelected bureaucrats may direct the President...you know, the Obama Constitution the one with the Bill of Entitlements

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:47 PM (U7k5w)

456 Can we just nuke it from orbit, just to be sure.

Posted by: morigu at November 19, 2019 04:47 PM (Eu98u)

457 It's come to this. I have to confess that I am official in contempt of Congress.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 19, 2019 04:47 PM (1ISKN)

458 Well, they are trying to dissolve the people and install another.

Posted by: Alana at November 19, 2019 04:47 PM (7iVzU)

459 http://bit.ly/2OpWVbT
*******
Steve Herman on Twitter: "@JoeBiden Statement just issued by the @WhiteHouse of Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg, the national security advisor in the office of @VP.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 19, 2019 04:48 PM (BqBId)

460 With all of this conviction you would think we'd have Civil Servants setting themselves on fire, like so many
Laotian monks, every day. All around DC.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 04:35 PM (yDWtO)

MAYBE THEY JUST NEED A LITTLE ENCOURAGEMENT, OR HELP...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 04:48 PM (8D42x)

461 Stzrok was just SUSPENDED for 60 days?

So, he gets to keep his retirement and everything else???"

I don't really know what you're referring to; back in 2018, the FBI originally suggested that Strzrok be suspended for 60 days, but then that recommendation was overruled and Stzrok was fired.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (Kpl3J)

I 'Think" but am not sure that they are quoting from a history of the investigation of Strzrok but not the ultimate outcome.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:48 PM (cEsBM)

462 fuckign caps lock, i'm NOT ben Rothlesburgerererer or how ever the hell you spell it...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 04:48 PM (8D42x)

463 And I include myself.


Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at November 19, 2019 04:46 PM (cxIsI)

It ain't over yet.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2019 04:49 PM (1CjJc)

464 LT. COLONEL "Chow Thief" Vindman, Schiff's form of the Destructor.

Schiff chose....poorly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 04:49 PM (ptqGC)

465 Why must you spoil my fun?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:44 PM (ZLI7S)

LOL I'll try to keep it from happening again!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2019 04:49 PM (Kpl3J)

466 Marine BQC Instructor Athens, Ga


Gotta admit, I read that as Marine BBQ instructor, which is probably a high standards operation in GA.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2019 04:50 PM (gd9RK)

467 Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that White House senior adviser Stephen Miller, whom progressives have blamed for the president's hard-line immigration agenda should be removed from his position.

Yeah, NO...drop dead you FAB.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:50 PM (cEsBM)

468 461 Stzrok was just SUSPENDED for 60 days?

So, he gets to keep his retirement and everything else???"

I don't really know what you're referring to; back in 2018, the FBI originally suggested that Strzrok be suspended for 60 days, but then that recommendation was overruled and Stzrok was fired.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2019 04:43 PM (Kpl3J)

I 'Think" but am not sure that they are quoting from a history of the investigation of Strzrok but not the ultimate outcome.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:48 PM (cEsBM)

Talking about this just released yesterday:

Strzok v. Barr

https://tinyurl.com/rmabbkh

Penalty Determination is on page 23....

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2019 04:51 PM (cF8AT)

469

Here we go. This guy Morrison is a cuck backstabber. And so is that cuck war-monger John Bolton.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 19, 2019 04:51 PM (iCTKF)

470 Shorter Volker testimony:


"There I was, neck-deep in canapes....."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 04:52 PM (ptqGC)

471 Shortest version: Doc_0 says that Mencius Moldbug was right the whole damn time about what sham the Progressives have made of Western 'democracy'.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 19, 2019 04:52 PM (ykYG2)

472 What, like he pointed at the ceiling and said WHATSTHAT!?! and then speared the bearclaws off their plates?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 19, 2019 04:52 PM (1XNk8)

473 >>I 'Think" but am not sure that they are quoting from a history of the investigation of Strzrok but not the ultimate outcome.

The DOJ responded to Strzok's lawsuit for re-instatement by releasing information collected in the investigation of his actions. That is what everyone is breathlessly freaking out over. The suspension was from the Office of Professional Responsibility and this suspension took place before he was ultimately fired.

Strzok does not have the power to go back in time and change the fact that he was indeed fired from the FBI for cause.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:52 PM (ZLI7S)

474 An anarcho-syndicalist commune would certainly have fewer complications. Just something to ponder while you're gathering muck.

Posted by: Dennis the Peasant at November 19, 2019 04:52 PM (BrfST)

475 LT. COLONEL "Chow Thief" Vindman, Schiff's form of the Destructor.
Schiff chose....poorly.


Just keep him out of the way when Nadler wants in on the cocktail shrimp

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (ykYG2)

476 jakee308: "Sometimes you have to go with the flow. It's a shame but if the flow is towards a strong man government then we deserve what's happened."

I'm not knocking it. I'm actually for it at this point because it's a choice of better or worse. In stage one, the strongman scenario cleans up anti-citizen corruption. I'll worry about stage two later. It may or may not happen, but stage one is a welcomed, tolerable one.

But I'm just stating an evolution of events that are driven by a country wracked by political corruption and a ruined democratic construct. The actions of those who are running things and should not be will invite, and insist upon, a correction. And in a democracy, it readily boils down to a populist who will grasp the imagination of a strongman.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (6eEQ+)

477 Penalty Determination is on page 23....
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2019 04:51 PM (cF8AT)

The IG does not determine penalties. Just findings. So I am sure that was a recomendation that was ignored and he was fired

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (cEsBM)

478 Wow!

Read that story about reporter Jen Moore being found dead in 2018, just before she was to release a story about Bill Clinton raping an 8 year old boy on a yacht, with his detailed story.

Why am I not surprised?

Moore was a former cop, so she had street cred. She was found dead of a seizure in a DC hotel, just before she was going to release the Clinton raping a young boy story.

How easy is it to murder someone by causing a seizure? I'm not a contract killer, so I defer to someone else with more knowledge in this area.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (sy5kK)

479 461: Up thread someone posted a communication that said Strzok should be suspended, but was basically so upright and intelligent that they had confidence then problem would not recur. The agency's ability to police itself is shit. The suggested suspension was due, it seems, mostly to Strzok embarrassing the agency. It's a fun and maddening look into their inner workings and general entitlement

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (U7k5w)

480 An anarcho-syndicalist commune would certainly have fewer complications. Just something to ponder while you're gathering muck.
Posted by: Dennis the Peasant at November 19, 2019 04:52 PM (BrfST)
---------
I thought we were an autonomous collective?

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (Xvo1a)

481 The DOJ responded to Strzok's lawsuit for re-instatement by releasing information collected in the investigation of his actions. That is what everyone is breathlessly freaking out over. The suspension was from the Office of Professional Responsibility and this suspension took place before he was ultimately fired.

Strzok does not have the power to go back in time and change the fact that he was indeed fired from the FBI for cause.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:52 PM (ZLI7S)

Yes that is what I thought..of course, as usual, you said it better

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:54 PM (cEsBM)

482 Or did Vindman use the ol' "Look, your shoe's untied!" and then shovel their mashed potatoes in his mouth while they were bent over tying their shoes?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 19, 2019 04:54 PM (1XNk8)

483 Quotes on perseverance from RC Saints:

https://tinyurl.com/r62vvvm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2019 04:54 PM (WI7YS)

484
Wow!



Read that story about reporter Jen Moore being found dead in 2018,
just before she was to release a story about Bill Clinton raping an 8
year old boy on a yacht, with his detailed story.


Wait....what???? Where is this?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 04:54 PM (ptqGC)

485 I thought we were an autonomous collective?
Posted by: jhawk90 at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (Xvo1a)

You're fooling yourself! We live in a dictatorship!

Posted by: I Have Questions at November 19, 2019 04:54 PM (BvNzB)

486 296 Interesting...

@WashTimes 2m

Pennsylvania Democrat switches to independent, will caucus with Republicans
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (1Vobx)


Alternative title:

Pennsylvania Democrat switches to independent, will caucus with Republicans, enjoys his job and wants to be re-elected.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:55 PM (sy5kK)

487 Stzrok's "GA": "Your wife left me a vm. Am I supposed to respond? She thinks we're having an affair. Should I call and correct her understanding?"

IF GA=Page, this is pretty strong to point to what I've suspected of late, that Page and Strzok were *not* having an affair.

Otherwise, it a closed conversation, why would you text that somebody's spouse "thinks" they are having an affair? And then say "correct"--without quotes, that is.

Posted by: E. Swallwell at November 19, 2019 04:55 PM (DuZls)

488 When did the cartels start writing Constitutions, let alone guidelines?

Those Constitutions are written in disembodied heads.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 19, 2019 04:56 PM (ykYG2)

489 How easy is it to murder someone by causing a seizure? I'm not a contract killer, so I defer to someone else with more knowledge in this area.

I would think they did a toxicology report? Wouldn't something have shown up that looked suspicious? Or maybe there's shit out there now that can't be detected that would cause a seizure. IDK.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 19, 2019 04:56 PM (dUJdY)

490 "Why am I not surprised?"

The Clintons do seem to leave a rather large trail of "accidental and suicidal" dead bodies in their wake...

Umm...I mean that in the nicest way, Hillary.

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2019 04:57 PM (32YRo)

491 How easy is it to murder someone by causing a seizure? I'm not a contract killer, so I defer to someone else with more knowledge in this area.

I would think they did a toxicology report? Wouldn't something have shown up that looked suspicious? Or maybe there's shit out there now that can't be detected that would cause a seizure. IDK.


Posted by: Jewells45 at November 19, 2019 04:56 PM (dUJdY)

what if the "right" people were doing toxicology, it was DC...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 04:57 PM (8D42x)

492 Center-City must be obeyed.
Like hell!

Posted by: Paladin at November 19, 2019 04:57 PM (KX5Wh)

493 Jen Moore being found dead in 2018,

The full-listing on Google Nooze is all about how this is CONSPIRACY THEORY.

Probably true. (said in Rorschach voice.)

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 19, 2019 04:57 PM (ykYG2)

494 actress Lori Loughlin and her fashion designer husband, Mossimo Giannulli, are contesting expanded charges against them in the college admissions bribery scandal.

Lawyers for Loughlin and Giannulli entered not guilty pleas on their behalf Tuesday to charges of conspiracy to commit federal program bribery.

Wish the FBI and Justice fought as hard to convict left wingers for treason

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:57 PM (cEsBM)

495 >> I thought we were an autonomous collective?


Everyone'th autonomouth until they meet a Thea Otter.

Posted by: Mike Tyson at November 19, 2019 04:58 PM (yDWtO)

496 The IG does not determine penalties. Just findings. So I am sure that was a recomendation that was ignored and he was fired

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (cEsBM)

I see Jackstraw's explanation for what this was @473. But it wasn't an IG report...it was from the DOJ/Barr.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2019 04:58 PM (cF8AT)

497 >>How easy is it to murder someone by causing a seizure?

Depends on their feelings about tentacle porn.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 04:58 PM (ZLI7S)

498 453, there is a little problem with that. Right now we have more or less an unaccountable aristocracy. The first thing that a strongman does is more or less eliminates said aristocracy to get the support of the people. That is what the oligarchs are truly afraid of with Trump and why you see so much projection. They know what they've done and government more or less has the records of it via terrorism surveillance tools.

The oligarchs were freaking out that Elizabeth Warren meant taking "THEIR" wealth instead of just the peasants. That is when you saw Bloomberg and apparently the former Mass Gov. jump into the race. They really do not want Warren v. Trump as the matchup.

Right now, the oligarchs control the Dem party via clientelism: the alphabets, the unions, govt workers, contractors, single women, minorities, immigrants, etc. but it is an unstable coalition. It is based on money and hate, not love of country or any other positive virtue. When the money runs out, then the hate is no longer balanced (see Venezuela) and society implodes.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2019 04:58 PM (MItID)

499 I think Schiff is now officially losing the chance he had to get Dem House members to vote for a Bill of Impeachment. I think they all went into this intending to whip it out and vote for it on December 11 or so - but I think he dramatically overpromised and oversold what he had to all of his other House caucus members. They had to expect a whole lot more than this! I can just imagine Schiff telling them all "Oh yeah, I have got it! The smoking gun, the quid pro quo, I've got it all!!!"

It's like the ballplayer chasing a pop fly - "i got it! I got it!! ohhh - I don't got it." His own side is gonna really, really hate him for setting them up like this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2019 04:58 PM (Kpl3J)

500 500

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 04:58 PM (8D42x)

501 296 Interesting...

@WashTimes 2m

Pennsylvania Democrat switches to independent, will caucus with Republicans
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 19, 2019 04:18 PM (1Vobx)

Except for Coke Bear, has a Dem ever switched to independent and caucused with the GOP? At least recently?

Posted by: Marybeth at November 19, 2019 04:58 PM (CmURZ)

502

Wish the FBI and Justice fought as hard to convict left wingers for treason



It's also too bad that this isn't viewed as a reason to clean out Academia.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2019 04:59 PM (oVJmc)

503 478: PCP some other street drugs, other stuff. Many of these things would be detectable in the required amounts and none are foolproof. Seizures are not usually deadly either.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 04:59 PM (U7k5w)

504 Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 04:57 PM (8D42x)

good point.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 19, 2019 04:59 PM (dUJdY)

505 yes, nailed it.

day is now complete...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 19, 2019 05:00 PM (8D42x)

506 >>Wish the FBI and Justice fought as hard to convict left wingers for treason


Or that our State Department was half as concerned about US interests as they are the interests of Ukraine.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2019 05:00 PM (yDWtO)

507 We ain't voting our way out of this.

Posted by: Uncle Pinochet 's Helicopter Rides at November 19, 2019 05:00 PM (Ayk4B)

508 475
LT. COLONEL "Chow Thief" Vindman, Schiff's form of the Destructor.

Schiff chose....poorly.



Just keep him out of the way when Nadler wants in on the cocktail shrimp

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (ykYG2)

F that. Thunderdome of passed hors d'oeuvre.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2019 05:00 PM (1CjJc)

509 I think Schiff is now officially losing the chance he had to get Dem House members to vote for a Bill of

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2019 04:58 PM (Kpl3J)
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Odds on Schiff keeping his chair if this all blows up in his face?

Posted by: E. Swallwell at November 19, 2019 05:00 PM (DuZls)

510 Why yes, they are replacing the American population with Southern illegals who love the Socialist governments better than the Socialist governments they are coming from.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2019 05:01 PM (ZCEU2)

511 Chow!

Posted by: LTC Vindman at November 19, 2019 05:01 PM (DuZls)

512 478; Also brain injury. It's an unreliable sort of thing

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 05:01 PM (U7k5w)

513 @487

Nobody ever produced independent evidence that these two bozos were carrying on an extramarital affair.


The affair angle was contrived to cast their conspiracy against the President as pillow talk and blowing off steam.


It was all bullshit from jump street.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 19, 2019 05:01 PM (h/bx2)

514 Coke Bear was a R who lost her primary and then (after the GOP greased the skids) caucused with the Republicans as an "independent". I think she's back with Team R again. Although you'd not know it from her vengeful voting record.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 19, 2019 05:01 PM (ykYG2)

515 495 >> I thought we were an autonomous collective?

We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 19, 2019 05:01 PM (d7Ww2)

516 501, Not sure about Trafficante which I believe was in his own caucus after Dems abandoned him. Previous to that was mostly in 1994.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2019 05:02 PM (MItID)

517 I don't think that Strzok and Page were actually having an affair.

I think they were both under the mistaken belief that there is a Fucking Each Other Privilege Against Testifying, sorta like the Spousal Privilege.

Not Rocket Surgeons, our DoJ/FBI betters.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2019 05:02 PM (fp3O8)

518


nood is imminent

but let's credit Eris for calling it

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 19, 2019 05:02 PM (iCTKF)

519 How easy is it to murder someone by causing a seizure? I'm not a contract killer, so I defer to someone else with more knowledge in this area.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (sy5kK)
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In spite of popular opinion on this blog I also have no knowledge of this type of thing, but Agatha Christie could sell it.

Posted by: bluebell at November 19, 2019 05:02 PM (aXucN)

520 Nobody ever produced independent evidence that these two bozos were carrying on an extramarital affair.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 19, 2019 05:01 PM (h/bx2)
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Bingo.

Posted by: Axeman at November 19, 2019 05:03 PM (DuZls)

521 I see Jackstraw's explanation for what this was @473. But it wasn't an IG report...it was from the DOJ/Barr.
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2019 04:58 PM (cF8AT)

There is absolutley NO news reporting anything like that. No headlines that Nazi is reinstated. I am sure what ever that is, is being taken out of context

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 05:03 PM (cEsBM)

522 >>>And of course the Piece de resistance would be Boots Randolph doing Yakkety Sax in the background.


Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist<<<

I think we just need to jump to the EPA / fresh-pinched stool in the hallway gag. Much like Charlie's Angels, half-assed reboots aren't exactly raking it in these days.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2019 05:03 PM (wo3c/)

523 >>It was all bullshit from jump street.

If that's true bluebell owes me a cookie.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 05:03 PM (ZLI7S)

524 487
Stzrok's "GA": "Your wife left me a vm. Am I supposed to respond? She
thinks we're having an affair. Should I call and correct her
understanding?"



IF GA=Page, this is pretty strong to point to what I've suspected of late, that Page and Strzok were *not* having an affair.



Otherwise, it a closed conversation, why would you text that
somebody's spouse "thinks" they are having an affair? And then say
"correct"--without quotes, that is.

Posted by: E. Swallwell at November 19, 2019 04:55 PM (DuZls)

GA is Page. And the texts reference pics and hotel rendezvous receipts and the wife's threats to blow it all up with GA's husband.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2019 05:03 PM (1CjJc)

525 So the way he's going to avoid a perjury charge is --- when he says he doesn't know who the whistle blower is -- what he means is, he doesn't know which one of the two people he talked to outside of WH people is the actual whistle blower.

They set it up so he could say he didn't know who it was. But he knows its one of two people. He just doesn't know which one of the two. Same with shifty shiff. He's playing the same game. I know it one of these people, I just don't know which one . . .

Posted by: Top Men at November 19, 2019 05:04 PM (XwWdu)

526 >>Read that story about reporter Jen Moore being found dead in 2018,
just before she was to release a story about Bill Clinton raping an 8

year old boy on a yacht, with his detailed story.



Is that the Colorado reporter who was onto human trafficking related to the Clintons?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2019 05:04 PM (bDqIh)

527 Except for Coke Bear, has a Dem ever switched to independent and caucused with the GOP? At least recently?
Posted by: Marybeth


Zell Miller?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2019 05:04 PM (ob5xJ)

528 Penalty Determination is on page 23....

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2019 04:51 PM (cF8AT)



The IG does not determine penalties. Just findings. So I am sure that was a recomendation that was ignored and he was fired

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM (cEsBM)

Actually, the IG recommended firing his ass. It was the higher ups in the FBI that decided to just suspend him for 60 days (because he promised to never, never, ever do those things again).

It was after that that some wise person decided suspension was not enough and went ahead and fired him.

Posted by: red at November 19, 2019 05:04 PM (ERkyq)

529 some people are super sensitive to EMFs. Who knows what all weaponry IC has developed using sound waves or EMFs that could induce seizure

Posted by: kallisto at November 19, 2019 05:04 PM (Y+IGD)

530 Nood

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 19, 2019 05:04 PM (w5V9S)

531 497 >>How easy is it to murder someone by causing a seizure


Hit them on the head with a bat hard enough to cause a seizure. There.

Posted by: Moonovermyhammy at November 19, 2019 05:04 PM (QP5Tn)

532 478: Even ECT will not always induce a seizure, seizures are a shitty murder weapon

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 05:04 PM (U7k5w)

533 If that's true bluebell owes me a cookie.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 05:03 PM (ZLI7S)
-------

I'll make it a big one and put a shiv in it, in case you need to protect yourself.

Posted by: bluebell at November 19, 2019 05:04 PM (aXucN)

534 Just keep him out of the way when Nadler wants in on the cocktail shrimp

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 19, 2019 04:53 PM

Ace will already have cleared the platters. Nothing left but some sprigs of parsley and seeds from the lemon garnishes.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 19, 2019 05:05 PM (COzlW)

535 >>Actually, the IG recommended firing his ass. It was the higher ups in the FBI that decided to just suspend him for 60 days (because he promised to never, never, ever do those things again).

>>It was after that that some wise person decided suspension was not enough and went ahead and fired him.

Not really. The OPR process comes first and that resulted in a suspension.

Then came the termination, a separate evaluation process.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 05:05 PM (ZLI7S)

536 Schiff ain't going anywhere, Democrats love him.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2019 05:06 PM (ZCEU2)

537 The doughey Lt. Colonel was offered employment by a foreign country? That is a reportable event for security clearance purposes. Failure to report an offer of employment is a crime.

Did he say he reported the offers?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 19, 2019 05:06 PM (gAXBD)

538 Yeah, pretty much.

Posted by: West at November 19, 2019 05:06 PM (JtoaC)

539 Shorter Volker testimony:
"There I was, neck-deep in canapes....."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2019 04:52 PM (ptqGC)
~~~~~

LOL Too true.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2019 05:06 PM (sGotD)

540 514 Coke Bear was a R who lost her primary and then (after the GOP greased the skids) caucused with the Republicans as an "independent". I think she's back with Team R again. Although you'd not know it from her vengeful voting record.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 19, 2019 05:01 PM (ykYG2)

Yeah, that's right. Should have asked has there ever been an independent who caucused with the GOP besides her?

You are correct - one would think she's a Dem the way she votes.

Manchin, for all his weaselly ways and backstabbing and lack of stones on the Kav SCOTUS vote, seems to be more reliable.

And that's saying a lot.

Posted by: Marybeth at November 19, 2019 05:06 PM (CmURZ)

541
The only "undetectable" poison I know of *was* succinylcholine, but some years back the cops devised some kind gas chromatography that can turn it up if it looks suspicious.

Nicotine poisoning will induce seizures, paralysis and death, but again, if it looks suspicious, they'll look for high concentrations.

Of course, when the vic has dirt on Clintons, it never looks suspicious to cops.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2019 05:07 PM (AzW6q)

542 499, they will simply switch to plan C which they are floating about--Trump lied to Mueller on Wikileaks--see them ping pong it back to Judiciary. One thing about the left, they are like a pitbull with a bone when they want something. For the most part, conservative Inc. simply gives up when it matters (cough Obamacare repeal cough) which causes us to suspect that surrender was the plan all along.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2019 05:08 PM (MItID)

543 529: Maybe. Do we know this person's history. Most prolonged seizures I've ever witnessed were due to withdrawal.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 05:08 PM (U7k5w)

544 Had to have been mentioned 2 of Epstein guards are getting charged for neglect and records fraud

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2019 05:09 PM (ZCEU2)

545 noodish

Posted by: andycanuck at November 19, 2019 05:11 PM (Dh1wo)

546 541 Succ causes paralysis, yes, but there'd be signs of respiratory failure and cardiac arrest.

Posted by: CN at November 19, 2019 05:11 PM (U7k5w)

547 What can be done about it?
I have read every one of the comments not one of them tell me what I/we can do about it.

Posted by: MantuaBill at November 19, 2019 05:13 PM (fFLLc)

548
Hollywood actors praising Lt. Col. Vindaloo and calling his embarrassing 200 foot swan dive into pig shit brave and beautiful. If they just wish hard enough, Tinkerbell will come back to life.

I only like these people when they pretend to be someone else. Because they're assholes.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 19, 2019 05:13 PM (Ii7Mc)

549 423
Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC

2h

Reading what I just wrote, I'm not trying to imply the IC IG leaked
to the media. Just talking about the echo chamber in general, led mostly
by Schiff.


pretty sure the politically correct term for that is "people's microphone".

Posted by: Anachronda at November 19, 2019 05:15 PM (sGtp+)

550 "they'll look for high concentrations."

"They" know better than to look to closely at the Clontons' crimes. If they value their lives at least.

Posted by: Chris M at November 19, 2019 05:16 PM (eAZVt)

551 535 >>Actually, the IG recommended firing his ass. It was the higher ups in the FBI that decided to just suspend him for 60 days (because he promised to never, never, ever do those things again).

>>It was after that that some wise person decided suspension was not enough and went ahead and fired him.

Not really. The OPR process comes first and that resulted in a suspension.

Then came the termination, a separate evaluation process.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2019 05:05 PM (ZLI7S)

If he'd been in one of the armed forces, he'd be in Leavenworth. Unless he came out as gay, of course.

Posted by: West at November 19, 2019 05:24 PM (JtoaC)

552 "112 Kelly Ann realizes that going through a divorce now will give the enemy too much cannon fodder and distract from getting Trump reelected in 2020.

I wouldn't be surprised if once elections are over she steps down from her position and files on the sob.
Posted by: Moonovermyhammy"
******************
Kelly is a good Catholic woman. She'll stay home and make the rest of his life as miserable as possible.

Posted by: Cosda at November 19, 2019 05:46 PM (5VZph)

553 I imagine old Vindy is where the text of the call got so garbled that Schiff thought it was a smoking gun - the nine instances of wanting to investigate Biden and the like.

It makes less sense for Schiff to do so as having it refuted was so easy. But if he credulously bought into Vindy's tale and ran with it, well that crap has a long history going back to Kavanaugh hearings and Anita Hill.

Internal lies for the office gossip cooler being brought forward as national issues to the horror of the original "accuser".

Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2019 05:55 PM (FTPn0)

554 What can be done about it?
I have read every one of the comments not one of them tell me what I/we can do about it.
Posted by: MantuaBill at November 19, 2019 05:13 PM (fFLLc)

You need to make them fear the people again, either through channels or outside of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2019 05:56 PM (FTPn0)

555 Had to smile at the ELP reference

Posted by: Semilitterate at November 19, 2019 06:41 PM (5rGQg)

556 President Trump is the real whistleblower.

Posted by: Tim at November 19, 2019 06:42 PM (pHArB)

557 >>>What can be done about it?
I have read every one of the comments not one of them tell me what I/we can do about it.
Posted by: MantuaBill at
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First, reelect Trump.
Second, elect enough Freedom loving, Constitution respecting, Trump supporting Republicans to make the GOPe irrelevant.
Third, Expel Schiff from the House
Fourth, Make it known to the Democrats that if they don't rid themselves of their current leadership, "Schiff rules" will prevail for all committees: The minority will sit there with their yaps closed, AND LIKE IT
Fifth, repeal the civil service laws: If these deep state bastards are going to behave like partisan hacks, they deserve to be turned out of their jobs when their party loses.
Sixth, end direct election of Senators. Senators represent their states, not the people thereof. That's what the House is for.
Seventh. Term Limits. For everyone. Especially Supreme Court Justices.
Eighth, Age Limits. Nobody has the right to die in office.
Ninth, Go from a two year to a three year election cycle. That, way, we'd have at least one year in which to get shit done before everybody starts thinking about how best to position their asses to keep their phony baloney jobs after the upcoming election.

Failing That:

Article V/Constitutional convention. Sure, it will end in civil war, but as Clemenza said, "sometimes you got to get rid of the bad blood" (something like that).

And failing that:

there will be blood.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at November 19, 2019 07:49 PM (xmKbk)

558 First, reelect Trump.
Second, elect enough Freedom loving, Constitution respecting, Trump supporting Republicans to make the GOPe irrelevant.
Third, Expel Schiff from the House (HA! Good luck.)
Fourth, Make it known to the Democrats that if they don't rid themselves of their current leadership, "Schiff rules" will prevail for all committees: The minority will sit there with their yaps closed, AND LIKE IT
Fifth, repeal the civil service laws: If these deep state bastards are going to behave like partisan hacks, they deserve to be turned out of their jobs when their party loses. (I'd go for total de-unionization of everyone in government at every level.)
Sixth, end direct election of Senators. Senators represent their states, not the people thereof. That's what the House is for. (Senators charged with bringing home the bacon will be replaced by Senators from profligate state governments with orders to bring home the bacon. Nope, this will not magically lead to better governance, as much as people want to believe.)
Seventh. Term Limits. For everyone. Especially Supreme Court Justices. (Because what is great for a republic is to make its already lazy voters much, much lazier. Term limits have been in effect for CA state government since 1990. I don't know of a sane person who thinks CA is well governed. That's just one example.
Americans think if they just come up with enough silver bullets, then they can have good government without any hard work. They do not understand that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance; we'll just pass a law and have the legal system do what we should be doing via societal values and morals, because teaching the values of temporary service in office for a few years before returning to whatever business you were in before IS JUST TOO HARD.)
Eighth, Age Limits. Nobody has the right to die in office.
Ninth, Go from a two year to a three year election cycle. That, way, we'd have at least one year in which to get shit done before everybody starts thinking about how best to position their asses to keep their phony baloney jobs after the upcoming election. (Because this doesn't happen elsewhere, such as in Australia, whose government lasts a max of three years before an election.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 19, 2019 09:31 PM (uUgDN)

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