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Tom Morrison Questioned Alex Vindman's "Judgement;" Paul Sperry Reports On Complaints That Vindman Leaked and Was So Distrusted He Was Excluded from Some Trips and Discussions



Byron York reports that Democrats and lawyers repeatedly stopped any questioning of Tom Morrison and Vindman about who else they had talked to.

On Saturday, Democrats released the transcript of the Oct. 31 deposition of Tim Morrison, who until recently was the top National Security Council official in charge of Russia and Europe. At the deposition, Republicans asked Morrison about Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who served under Morrison in charge of Ukraine. Morrison testified that he had questions about Vindman's judgment. Specifically, Morrison told the committee, "I had concerns that he did not exercise appropriate judgment as to whom he would say what."

...

GOP lawyer Steve Castor asked Morrison in a general sense who Vindman might have discussed the Trump-Zelensky call with. "What types of officials in the course of his duties would he be responsible for providing readouts to?"

The transcript indicates that an off-the-record discussion took place. Then Morrison said, "He -- he may have felt it appropriate to speak to other departments and agencies if they had questions about the call."

"Do you know if he did?" asked Castor.

"Yes," said Morrison.

"And who--— do you know who he spoke to?"

At that moment, Morrison's lawyer, Barbara Van Gelder, intervened. "I'm not going to allow him to answer that, it is beyond the scope of this inquiry," she said.

Castor protested that he was not asking Morrison to testify beyond his knowledge of events. Van Gelder then read what appeared to be a prepared statement.

...

More arguing ensued, but Morrison did not answer the question.

At another moment, Morrison described the time Vindman came to him to express concerns about the Trump-Zelensky call. "Did you have any other communications with [Vindman] about the call?" asked Castor.

"Yes," said Morrison.

"And what were those?"

"You're not going to talk about that," interjected Van Gelder.

Vindman himself testified two days earlier, on Oct. 29. In that session, Schiff again decreed that the witness could not discuss some of the people he might have discussed the Trump call with. In fact, Schiff ordered a blackout on discussion of anyone even associated with the intelligence community. (The whistleblower has been reported to be a CIA analyst.) "Can I just caution again," Schiff said, "Not to go into names of people affiliated with the IC in any way."

Vindman said he had discussed the call, in a limited way, with State Department official George Kent. When asked who beyond Kent he might have discussed the call with, Vindman's lawyer Michael Volkov intervened.

"What I'm telling you right now is we're not going to answer that question," Volkov said. "If the chair wants to hold him in contempt for protecting the whistleblower, God be with you ... If you want to ask, you can ask -- you can ask questions about his conversation with Mr. Kent. That's it. We're not answering any others."

"The only conversation that we can speak to Col. Vindman about is his conversation with Ambassador Kent?" asked Republican Rep. Lee Zeldin.

"Correct," said Volkov, "and you've already asked him questions about it."

Volkov, like Van Gelder later, was simply following Schiff's directive. The chairman ruled out any talk about the call.


I'd like to thank each of these Democrat Operatives for their service.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:48 PM




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Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Laments: Mimes, Why Did It Have To Be Mimes? at November 18, 2019 04:50 PM (L5Ypf)

2 And I read the content!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Laments: Mimes, Why Did It Have To Be Mimes? at November 18, 2019 04:50 PM (L5Ypf)

3 LOL get fucked

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2019 04:51 PM (KNsKs)

4 Tom Morrison of the Doors??

Posted by: andycanuck at November 18, 2019 04:51 PM (Dh1wo)

5 You know, I don't think they really want this to go to the senate. Even the leaks aren't sounding so good for the Democrats.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Laments: Mimes, Why Did It Have To Be Mimes? at November 18, 2019 04:51 PM (L5Ypf)

6 Wait, I thought it was the defendant that had a right to remain silent. You know your case isn't going well when you're prohibiting the witnesses from speaking about the case.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2019 04:52 PM (T6t7i)

7 I hate them all and am ready for the guillotines to be erected.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 18, 2019 04:52 PM (ayFCE)

8 The arrogance of these people is stunning.

They are openly admitting to sedition and allowing their names to be aired for all to know and remember.

These people really do not understand the depth of the hatred they have created.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 18, 2019 04:53 PM (qC1Sy)

9 So, so very transparent.

And transparent not in the way Team Coup thinks. The American public reads the lines and in between them better than the Russians read Soviets.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 18, 2019 04:53 PM (6eEQ+)

10 If Vindman "so leaked", why wasn't he arrested for mishandling classified information? As military, doesn't that take less than civilian to prove?

Or, why do we bother with security clearances and jail time?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2019 04:53 PM (XkxK0)

11 >>BREAKING: The NSC boss of Schiff's only non-hearsay witness--Ukraine analyst Alex Vindman--recv'd complaints that Vindman leaked info & went outside his chain of command & exercised such poor judgment that he was not included on some foreign trips & restricted from policy areas

And yet knowing all of this he was kept around and allowed to be part of the call with Zelensky.

I wonder why?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 04:53 PM (ZLI7S)

12 Vindman is loyal to the family money. I wonder if Soros is involved

Posted by: CN at November 18, 2019 04:53 PM (U7k5w)

13
I'd like to thank them with 40 years hard labor.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2019 04:54 PM (zBaqJ)

14 This reads like a transcript from the Soviet Union. NSC officials who hate their country and leak to foreign governments. Lawyers who won't let government officials and military officers testify about their official duties? Oh and let's not forget a Democrat Party orchestrating this entire incident to undermine our president.

We should be rebuilding the gallows at Fort McNair for these people.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 18, 2019 04:54 PM (F73W5)

15 So when is the UCMJ going to be applied to this jerk?

Why does he still have a security clearance?

Or is it going to now be routine that serving military officers are allowed to take political hits on the Commander in Chief?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 04:54 PM (I2/tG)

16 Vindaloumon needs to be flogged and hanged.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 18, 2019 04:54 PM (xy+sY)

17
Tom Morrison of the Doors??


No, no, no. He's the guy who started the chain of Morrison's Cafeterias.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 04:55 PM (HaL55)

18 What a pathetic farce this all is.

Posted by: Max Power at November 18, 2019 04:55 PM (q177U)

19 These are the type of staff officers I hated.

Posted by: Archer at November 18, 2019 04:55 PM (gmo/4)

20 A willowed comment from the previous thread (five minutes ago):

Things that make me wonder: Barack O'Bama pretty much destroyed everything George Bush said he was trying to accomplish during the Iraq War, and Bush NEVER SAID A WORD ABOUT IT.

Was/Is Bush just another passive-aggressive double agent?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, in Erath, Near Carcosa at November 18, 2019 04:55 PM (Clxcy)

21 > Tom Morrison of the Doors??

I thought Tom Morrison was that famous writer who used to be a chick. She wrote that "Beloved" book before transitioning.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 04:55 PM (oQp6r)

22 Our national security is dependent on people who gossip more than grannies at the beauty shop.

Posted by: huerfano at November 18, 2019 04:55 PM (9dnxb)

23 Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 04:53 PM (ZLI7S)



Maybe to trap Schiff into leaping at this and discrediting his impeachment hearings forever?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Laments: Mimes, Why Did It Have To Be Mimes? at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (L5Ypf)

24
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If we were to completely abolish and dismantle the CIA and FBI, the nation would be safer and more secure than if we left them intact.

The last 4 years prove it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (zBaqJ)

25 Those commies have been studying their kangaroo court show trials.

We're on the verge of losing our country to these lying sacks of hot garbage?

Posted by: Boots at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (oGBso)

26 I realize this is all just to dirty Trump up for the 2020 campaign. But, do they think Vindman et al wont have to answer questions during a senate trial?

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (JRaU+)

27 How the fuck did this guy get a TS/SCI and end up working on the nation of his birth when his brother is heavily invested there? This guy has more clearance red flags than a North Korean military parade.

A buddy of mine, born in the States, couldn't get a clearance just because he had an uncle in jail in Northern Ireland.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (rGgyS)

28 Let's also not forget that Vindman is a lazy fatass who couldn't pass his ACFT.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (F73W5)

29 They should ask Cpt Vindman (ret) what he thinks of these charges. I'm thinking more toward Lt.

Any of these people had the honest opportunity to oppose Administration policy.

It's called 'resignation'.

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (8erNz)

30 >>Maybe to trap Schiff into leaping at this and discrediting his impeachment hearings forever?

You mean a plan?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (ZLI7S)

31 Hang the mofos

Posted by: Barney Fife at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (/r06Z)

32 > I'd like to thank them with 40 years hard labor.

Wall.

Blindfold.
Optional cigarette.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (oQp6r)

33 So, witnesses LAWYERS get to decide what questions they will answer, when under subpoena?

That's an interesting development in Jurisprudence.

Wonder what Chief Justice Roberts will think about that little precedent.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (NgKpN)

34 26 I realize this is all just to dirty Trump up for the 2020 campaign. But, do they think Vindman et al wont have to answer questions during a senate trial?
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (JRaU+)


More pleading the 5th than Frank Costello before the Kefauver Committee.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (zBaqJ)

35 28 Let's also not forget that Vindman is a lazy fatass who couldn't pass his ACFT.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (F73W5)

---

Nor his tape.

Posted by: SMH at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (RU4sa)

36 Note to future GOP outsider and reform minded Presidents...


The system is set up to keep you in a nice, neat little box, the government is full of UniParty/Deep State agents and saboteurs.


You need to fire everyone.....


And when I say everyone...

**Puts on Stansfield voice emulator....


EVERYONEEEEE!!!!

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (43qa7)

37 It's a garbage

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (M+Lyo)

38 I know everybody in DC is on Team Deep State, and they want the team to win, and they're willing to do their part. But I am getting surprised at the sheer number of them willing to just utterly beclown and disgrace themselves. These people have no self-respect, whatsoever.

Particularly the used Q-Tip ambassadress. Crying on command because of a tweet. So pathetic.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (AzW6q)

39 Wall.

Blindfold.
Optional cigarette.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (oQp6r)

---------------

After 40 years of hard labor.

Give them something to look forward to.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (qC1Sy)

40 "Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (rGgyS)"

Easy. Go look at his CoC. They are the ones pushing it.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 18, 2019 04:58 PM (F73W5)

41 33 So, witnesses LAWYERS get to decide what questions they will answer, when under subpoena?

That's an interesting development in Jurisprudence.

Wonder what Chief Justice Roberts will think about that little precedent.
Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (NgKpN)


It's a tax.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2019 04:58 PM (zBaqJ)

42 I just finished reading an Oral History of 9/11. It's interesting how differently I view most of the government officials. (Robert Mueller's first week as head of the FBI). It's interesting how they said we were at war but didn't act like it. And it's interesting that we planned to ram Flight 93 because we didn't have any jets armed.

I guess the morale is buy more guns and ammo.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 18, 2019 04:58 PM (Lqy/e)

43 24: And tear it down.

Posted by: CN at November 18, 2019 04:58 PM (U7k5w)

44 Wonder what Chief Justice Roberts will think about that little precedent.
Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (NgKpN)

--------------

It's a tax!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 18, 2019 04:58 PM (qC1Sy)

45 Our national security is dependent on people who gossip more than grannies at the beauty shop.
Posted by: huerfano


You know what stops that?


Jail time.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2019 04:58 PM (XkxK0)

46 I'm starting to suspect that our betters really aren't.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 18, 2019 04:58 PM (YslsA)

47 There is no deep state and it is made up of Patriots.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 18, 2019 04:58 PM (87EdW)

48

They should have asked Dr. Simon Van Gelder.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2019 04:59 PM (aKsyK)

49 Is this News.

Or is this just finally getting some wind?

I thought we knew this already?

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 04:59 PM (0/eGj)

50 Every one of these shitbags had the opportunity to oppose the policy of the Trump administration.

Resign and set up a blog. Or lobby your BFFs in the media.

You have no right to stand inside the tent and piss out, and in some way it's to Trump's discredit that he didn't chop their dicks off or hire the proper staff to do it.

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 04:59 PM (8erNz)

51 I see J.J. got to it before I did.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 18, 2019 04:59 PM (qC1Sy)

52 Well, I've been informed by the "media" that this week is gonna be the star witnesses!

Posted by: It's me donna at November 18, 2019 04:59 PM (6XlcD)

53 I don't get the impression that Morrison's lawyer actually works for Morrison.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 18, 2019 04:59 PM (0xMqp)

54 The fact that very little of this will be exposed in the media just shows us how corrupt they are.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2019 04:59 PM (axyOa)

55 I'm still unclear on how a guy who's fired for leaking goes right back to his old job...at the CIA.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (1XNk8)

56 > A buddy of mine, born in the States, couldn't get a clearance just because he had an uncle in jail in Northern Ireland.

Your buddy didn't have George Soros pulling strings through his meat puppet Obama.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (oQp6r)

57 And so now that the Dems have beaten the Ukraine horse to death with no results, they are back to the Mueller report.

There must be SOMETHING they can do with those bones.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (Z4rgH)

58 Our national security is dependent on people who gossip more than grannies at the beauty shop.
Posted by: huerfano



A gaggle of Bella Abzugs siting around a man-jong table at the Silver Gull Beach Club can keep their yaps shut better than these bastards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (zBaqJ)

59 Demoskrats harbor no biaskes.

And Rosa DeLauro ain't the Sea Hag.

Posted by: Popeye at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (BrfST)

60 Vindman is loyal to the family money. I wonder if Soros is involved

I'd be really surprised if the anti-Christ Soros wasn't involved in all this. And I hope he and his operatives get perp-walked at some point in all this.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (HaL55)

61 You have no right to stand inside the tent and piss
out, and in some way it's to Trump's discredit that he didn't chop their
dicks off ....

Posted by: JEM


Lotta penises in your world.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (T6t7i)

62 I like the current pic that's going around of the famous WH photo of Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton posing titled :

'Bill Clinton's Whistleblower'

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (Q5ALd)

63 The Trump tribunal, there will be a book or 10 written about this garbage fire.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (M+Lyo)

64 GW did not say one word about Obama and sided with people who said the most vile things about him and his family against Trump.Why?

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (KNsKs)

65 48

They should have asked Dr. Simon Van Gelder.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2019 04:59 PM (aKsyK)


Trek reference. Morgan Woodward, James Gregory.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (zBaqJ)

66 And Rosa DeLauro ain't the Sea Hag.

Exidor Lives!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (HaL55)

67 I've said it before and I'll say it again. If we were to completely abolish and dismantle the CIA and FBI, the nation would be safer and more secure than if we left them intact.

All the news about the 3-letter agencies lately reminds me of the line from Team America, "Intelligence is down, I repeat, we have no intelligence".

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (ZGrMX)

68 55 I'm still unclear on how a guy who's fired for leaking goes right back to his old job...at the CIA.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (1XNk

-----------------

Leaking appears to be part of the job description at the CIA.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (qC1Sy)

69 After 40 years of hard labor.

Give them something to look forward to.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 18, 2019 04:57 PM (qC1Sy)

Maybe they could be assigned a dedicated buggerer.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (aCNZ6)

70 I've said it before and I'll say it again. If we were to completely abolish and dismantle the CIA and FBI, the nation would be safer and more secure than if we left them intact.

The last 4 years prove it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (zBaqJ)


I'm finding it hard not to feel the same way. As far as the FBI, we have state and local agencies that can investigate crimes. As far as the CIA, they missed the 2 biggest international happenings of the last 30 years (Fall of the Soviet Union, and September 11). Really, how good are they at their jobs anyway? Let's try it for a while without these orgs.

Posted by: Ted K. at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (FJYfm)

71 > and in some way it's to Trump's discredit that he didn't chop their dicks off or hire the proper staff to do it.

I think Trump really did make the mistake of assuming that, to a first approximation, everybody in DC was a loyal American, when it's been clear for quite some time now that loyal Americans are the exception rather than the rule there.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (oQp6r)

72 You know what stops that?

Jail time.


rickb223 WANTS TO JAIL GRANNIES FOR GOSSIPING UNDER THE BLOWERS AT THE BEAUTY PARLOR!

Posted by: CNN at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (8erNz)

73 This story proves how thoroughly the Demofascists have infiltrated the agencies of the Executive branch.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (NVYyb)

74

There is nothing left to say.

We are watching the Democrats and the media control the narrative.

Day after day.

They are liars and felons. They are rapists and pedos. They are stomping on the Constitution.

We know they will go to any depths and are hated more than ever before.

I am so surprised there are so many calm, level headed people watching this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (vEIlU)

75 GW did not say one word about Obama and sided with people who said the most vile things about him and his family against Trump.Why?
Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2019 05:00 PM (KNsKs)


Because he's on their side.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (Zz0t1)

76 Vindman is loyal to the family money. I wonder if Soros is involved

Soros had his people brief Eric Ciaramella The Whistle-Leaker about all of his policy moves in Europe. He's absolutely involved.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (ZGrMX)

77 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (Zz0t1)

78 The CIA and FBI ate ran but the Swamp, they are there to protect their brethren.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (ZCEU2)

79 All the 3 letter agencies were "fundamentally transformed".

Posted by: atilla the thrilla at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (w7KSn)

80 Vindman Leaked and Was So Distrusted He Was Excluded from Some Trips and Discussions
.........

and he wasn't fired. Typical.

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (v0R5T)

81 I don't understand how someone in the military gets to do this?

I get civil servants basically have a blank check, but the military getting political and leaking, it's pretty easy for the commander in chief to fire someone. Not even the courts have really reversed decisions like that (at least to my knowledge)

Does Trump not understand what powers he has?

Posted by: Blago at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (sjTfF)

82 In uniform or not?

Posted by: Ever at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (dkrmM)

83 >>Is this News.

>>Or is this just finally getting some wind?

>>I thought we knew this already

Are you thinking of Ciaramella?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:03 PM (ZLI7S)

84 Rapone, Vendaloumon, and Bergdahl would make a great outreach team in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 18, 2019 05:03 PM (xy+sY)

85 74 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (vEIlU)


A) no one gives a shit about the hearings, the ratings are in the toilet.
B) even the polls from lefty poll outfits show a majority think the Dems are trying to frame Trump with this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2019 05:03 PM (zBaqJ)

86 and he wasn't fired. Typical.
Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (v0R5T)

That would make him cry, and we cant have that

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 18, 2019 05:03 PM (M+Lyo)

87 > A gaggle of Bella Abzugs siting around a man-jong


Holy cow, I haven't thought of her in years.
Surely she can't still be alive?

(checks... nope, gone since '9

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:03 PM (oQp6r)

88 26- I don't think they let it get there, Nick. They throw the mud, then move for censure and "let the American people decide." They can't take a chance on Trump mounting a public defense.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 18, 2019 05:03 PM (87EdW)

89 Well Voldemort, I mean Vindman, is the Dems new star witness since last weeks bombed

Posted by: It's me donna at November 18, 2019 05:03 PM (6XlcD)

90 84 Rapone, Vendaloumon, and Bergdahl would make a great outreach team in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 18, 2019 05:03 PM (xy+sY)
----------------

Maybe use Air Pinochet to drop them off?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 18, 2019 05:03 PM (qC1Sy)

91 @55

That's easy, there was obviously no criminal complaint made or there was the usual declination to prosecute fandango the DOJ is famous for and governmental rules being as shitty as they are he was simply shuffled off to his former post.


Bottom line: We Ain't voting our way out of our predicament.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (43qa7)

92 The arrogance of these people is stunning.

They are openly admitting to sedition and allowing their names to be aired for all to know and remember.

These people really do not understand the depth of the hatred they have created.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 18, 2019 04:53 PM (qC1Sy)


I respectfully disagree. They do know the depth. Just enough to - maybe - get you out to vote, but not enough for you to rally with hundreds of thousands of others on the National Mall and demand that people be yanked out in tumbrils.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - when Steve Scalise was nearly killed by a Democrat and the entire matter was shoved down the memory hole, with no nationwide vigils, smashing of DNC property or doxing of Democrat pols (not to mention utterly no demands that Hodgkinson's e-mails to a particular Dem rep be released), the ambulatory shitstains populating Capitol Hill knew for a fucking certainty that the right will never rebel, will never protest and will never mete out the justice they deserve.

They rule, we must obey. It's as simple as that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (Ki5SV)

93 I thought Vindman had been outed as a leaker and knowledge of his reassignments was known last week?

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (0/eGj)

94 I think Trump really did make the mistake of assuming that, to a first approximation, everybody in DC was a loyal American, when it's been clear for quite some time now that loyal Americans are the exception rather than the rule there.

I've been saying since Trump was elected that he needed to ask three questions of prospective Cabinet members:

a) What's your 60-day priority
b) What's your one-year priority
c) What's your full-term priority

And if (a) wasn't some form of 'frog-march a lot of people out and run them over with Cat D6's' the interview would be over.

But Trump doesn't listen to me, so...
Unfortunately,

Posted by: CNN at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (8erNz)

95 88. That is the only logical outcome, a censure and no trial. But, the DEMS are not really that bright, and their base may demand more.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (JRaU+)

96 Rapone got shitcanned I read.I hope so

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (KNsKs)

97 Thems just like the Benzazi heroes!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (WZv3r)

98 I'm sure the Senate trial will go just as the democrats plan. oh right. Son, Democrats never take dump with a plan.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (FEQY4)

99 and in some way it's to Trump's discredit that he didn't chop their dicks off or hire the proper staff to do it.

I think you can hold PDJT responsible for plenty of bad NeverTrumper hires, but expecting him to have rooted out all the Obama-ites in the civil service is crazy aggressive. Takes it too far.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (NVYyb)

100 it's pretty easy for the commander in chief to fire someone

Yeah, I don't get it. Call Vindman's superior, tell him that Vindman is no longer welcome at NSC, and to send over someone else.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:05 PM (I2/tG)

101 I get civil servants basically have a blank check, but the military getting political and leaking, it's pretty easy for the commander in chief to fire someone. Not even the courts have really reversed decisions like that (at least to my knowledge)

Does Trump not understand what powers he has?
Posted by: Blago at November 18, 2019 05:02 PM (sjTfF)


Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my closeup.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at November 18, 2019 05:05 PM (ZfRYq)

102 I voted for Trump so he would fire these doofusses.

Say the words I am longing to hear, Mr. President!

Posted by: Just Lily at November 18, 2019 05:05 PM (iRWOn)

103 93 I thought Vindman had been outed as a leaker and knowledge of his reassignments was known last week?
Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (0/eGj)


He should have his gender reassigned through his nostrils.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2019 05:05 PM (zBaqJ)

104 I'm waiting for fireballs to shoot out of Shifty Schiff's eyeballs triggering the coup cultists to go on a fucking rampage.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2019 05:05 PM (wo3c/)

105 93 I thought Vindman had been outed as a leaker and knowledge of his reassignments was known last week?

He's not the only shitburg. Is he sitting on a cake of ice in Namchatka yet? He should be. In Speedos.

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:05 PM (8erNz)

106 >>I thought Vindman had been outed as a leaker and knowledge of his reassignments was known last week?

Vindman likely gave the information to Ciaramella who went to Schiff.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:06 PM (ZLI7S)

107 I certainly hope there's some anti-trump sniffing in York's article (you know "but trump has not made matters better by being orange and bad...although to be fair we grudgingly admit that it helps he end-arounded the left by providing the transcripts and by, you know, not doing anything wrong...but really, I just can't help myself").

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:06 PM (FEQY4)

108 I think Trump really did make the mistake of assuming that, to a first approximation, everybody in DC was a loyal American, when it's been clear for quite some time now that loyal Americans are the exception rather than the rule there.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (oQp6r)
----------------------------------------

Trump is an incredibly quick study, but the presidency was a new thing beyond any new thing he had ever tried. He didn't want to fail and be unfavorably compared to Barky, after all.

So he trusted people who had been around DC to help get him up to speed. Many if not most of those people were disloyal traitors. And I include Jeff Sessions in there, just not sure if he was deliberately disloyal or a big dummy.

Posted by: Boots at November 18, 2019 05:06 PM (oGBso)

109 I can supply Surprise Anal. I have the rape button to keep them from escaping.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at November 18, 2019 05:06 PM (umhUb)

110 Epstein didn't kill himself. That's my big reveal for Chairman Schiffty

Posted by: Eric Ciaramella at November 18, 2019 05:06 PM (NVYyb)

111 71 > and in some way it's to Trump's discredit that he didn't chop their dicks off or hire the proper staff to do it.

I think Trump really did make the mistake of assuming that, to a first approximation, everybody in DC was a loyal American, when it's been clear for quite some time now that loyal Americans are the exception rather than the rule there.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (oQp6r)

The Deep State was successful in either sideling, or taking out, most of the staff Trump needed to clean the place up.

They went after Trump's people with a vengeance. The took out Flynn. They sidelined Sessions. They took out Manafort.

They were playing hardball, and many who WOULD have helped Trump, saw that, and decided not to get involved.

Face it. Working for Trump puts a big ole MSM Crosshair on your back.

They are trying to destroy anyone who would help Trump.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 05:06 PM (NgKpN)

112 75 I know,rhetorical question.There really can't be any other answer.

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2019 05:06 PM (KNsKs)

113 Steve Bannon wanted him off the NSC in 2017 ! so Trump has known about the Pillsbury Doughboy since at least then

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 18, 2019 05:06 PM (BqBId)

114 I know Vindman was injured in action and it's great that he served in the Army (and still does nominally) ... but does anyone have the details of how he got injured?

IED I read, but was he leading a column of hard-charging mechanized infantry in an assault? Or was he just on his way to liasoning a planning committee meeting of the Baghdad branch of the US-Ukrainian Iraqi Tree Planting Society or whatever?

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 18, 2019 05:07 PM (hdzef)

115
Bottom line: We Ain't voting our way out of our predicament.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium

And they ain't impeaching their way out."Gentle men I shall see you on the field of battle."

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 18, 2019 05:07 PM (LOq4H)

116 > I get civil servants basically have a blank check

Maybe we need to go back to the old-school "spoils" system, where all the civil servants got fired and replaced every time a different party assumed power.

While it had its problems, it did have the advantage that these shitstains didn't get to stay in there consolidating their power for decades.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:07 PM (oQp6r)

117 I think you can hold PDJT responsible for plenty of bad NeverTrumper hires, but expecting him to have rooted out all the Obama-ites in the civil service is crazy aggressive. Takes it too far.

No, I don't expect him (pbuh) personally to do it, I would have hoped that he would hire the people to do it.

At EPA he got somewhere, but at State and DOJ (the two most important) he failed.

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:07 PM (8erNz)

118 @JJ and yet they persist

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2019 05:07 PM (ZfRYq)

119 Process process process process.


Fine. The process is a scandal in itself, a farce, cheapening impeachment as a constitutional tool and further degrading Congress. This should be one of the GOP's themes - even to the extent of Mitch saying he cannot participate in this degradation and will not consider such a farcical process worthy of a trial, it needs to be cleaned up, opened up.


But equal emphasis should be on the point that the president would have been well within his authority, and there would have been nothing the least bit improper, about insisting an aid recipient and MLAT party assist with investigation of unprecedented corruption involving/affecting the very top level of our government, and its national election.


I think a lot of people instinctively get this, but the focus on process, and the usual ad hominem antics [did you know the guy who suspected something that would be perfectly legal and proper anyway had once eaten in the same cafe as the guy who thinks he heard something about something else, and he's a registered Democrat! and a soccer fan!!] are lame and tired.



Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:07 PM (QDnY+)

120 Saturday Night MSNBC Live was particularly lame. I skipped the cold intro but caught a part of the weekend update where the two Kommisars of Thought from the Ministry of INFORMation were quite strident that the impeachment (inquiry) circus was VERY serious you guys and there's really no defense for whatever current crime the impeachment (inquiry) circus has accused trump of.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:07 PM (FEQY4)

121 The whistleblower needs to be protected at all costs. In fact I have him stashed in my dried food supply room. Ann is guarding the door. Tagg is on duty at night.

Posted by: Boneless Pork Rectum (R-Utah) at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (NVYyb)

122 Call Vindman's superior, tell him that Vindman is no longer welcome at NSC, and to send over someone else.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:05 PM (I2/tG)
..........

Or not. It's not like we need these guys anyway.

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (v0R5T)

123 All three are sh1tbirds. Best they die in an obscure little valley in Afsh1tastan

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (xy+sY)

124 As I said last week.. this shit will all come out in the Senate trial.. this is a fucking circus run by that petty tyrant Schiff.

Write up your articles of impeachment, asshole.

It will all come out in the Senate where you have no power to shut anyone up.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (so+oy)

125 and in some way it's to Trump's discredit that he didn't chop their dicks off or hire the proper staff to do it.

I think you can hold PDJT responsible for plenty of bad NeverTrumper hires, but expecting him to have rooted out all the Obama-ites in the civil service is crazy aggressive. Takes it too far.
Posted by: Huck Follywood


___________

I disagree, far and away Trump's biggest fuck up has been personnel.

Somehow every Democrat gets to fire all the Republicans en masse and its crickets.

I would have made a list of every person I could legally fire and do it. Nobody outside the DC Beltway cares anyway.

Posted by: Blago at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (sjTfF)

126 The Wal Mart shooting of today:

A white man and a white woman were shot inside a car, and another white man was killed outside of the car, according to a Duncan police Facebook post.

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Yeah, white people. They're the worst.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (+y/Ru)

127 >>Steve Bannon wanted him off the NSC in 2017 ! so Trump has known about the Pillsbury Doughboy since at least then

If true then:

A) Trump is an idiot

or

B) Trump kept him there for a reason.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (ZLI7S)

128 Class action penectomy(ies)?

Posted by: klaftern at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (RuIsu)

129 Got it.

Frankly I prefer talking great Cow Bells in Rock History.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (0/eGj)

130 Ok horde, I posted from a different computer and my nic came up red. Panic now or later?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 18, 2019 05:09 PM (LOq4H)

131 Maybe we need to go back to the old-school "spoils" system, where all the civil servants got fired and replaced every time a different party assumed power.

You're not a UT law prof named Glenn, are you?

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:09 PM (8erNz)

132 Trump should have fired everybody he could when he got into office. But who know the impeachment (inquiry) circus would not even bother to even accuse him of a crime or use witnesses that had actual knowledge.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:09 PM (FEQY4)

133 white man and a white woman were shot inside a car, and another white man was killed outside of the car, according to a Duncan police Facebook post.

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Yeah, white people. They're the worst.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (+y/Ru)

I'm guessing husband shot wife and boyfriend and then himself.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:09 PM (Q5ALd)

134 What with all that Belly and Mons Pubis fat I am pretty damn sure Lt Col Fatty McFatface is a leaker.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 18, 2019 05:09 PM (flINI)

135 > You're not a UT law prof named Glenn, are you?


No, but we have areas of sympathy.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:10 PM (oQp6r)

136 For God's sake they deny the president can make foreign policy or fire people that work for him.

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2019 05:10 PM (KNsKs)

137 >>Ok horde, I posted from a different computer and my nic came up red. Panic now or later?


Pixys GAYDAR never lies.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:10 PM (0/eGj)

138 Yeah, I don't get it. Call Vindman's superior, tell him that Vindman is
no longer welcome at NSC, and to send over someone else.


"Hey, could you send us an American this time? All these foreign nationals aren't working out very well for some reason."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 05:10 PM (HaL55)

139 I'm perfectly fine with these sham proceedings as long as they keep hitting Dentures Biden with Ukrainian friendly fire and make Warren or Sanders the Democrat nominee. There's a reason Pelosi resisted actual impeachment as long as she did.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at November 18, 2019 05:10 PM (vcXUo)

140 BREAKING: The NSC boss of Schiff's only non-hearsay witness--Ukraine
analyst Alex Vindman--recv'd complaints that Vindman leaked info
went outside his chain of command exercised such poor judgment
that he was not included on some foreign trips restricted from
policy areas


this sounds like unwarranted phobia of the otherly competent.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (sGtp+)

141 Democrats don't make a plan, son, before taking a dump on America.

I can only imagine what Schiff thinks is going to happen when the impeachment (inquiry) circus goes to the Senate... oh right, it's a impeachment (inquiry) circus not an impeachment.

I suppose he thought he'd captivate the nation by having the lead from woke Charlies Angels explain that she was intimidated by trump's very bad tweet which said he was her boss.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (FEQY4)

142 Steve Bannon wanted him off the NSC in 2017 ! so Trump has known about the Pillsbury Doughboy since at least then

If true then:

A) Trump is an idiot

or

B) Trump kept him there for a reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (ZLI7S)

I don't think it's an either / or choice.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (Q5ALd)

143 Wasn't Harding the one that shit-canned 25% of gov't workers? Might want to re-visit that.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (Xvo1a)

144 I've said it before and I'll say it again - when Steve Scalise was nearly killed by a Democrat and the entire matter was shoved down the memory hole, with no nationwide vigils, smashing of DNC property or doxing of Democrat pols (not to mention utterly no demands that Hodgkinson's e-mails to a particular Dem rep be released), the ambulatory shitstains populating Capitol Hill knew for a fucking certainty that the right will never rebel, will never protest and will never mete out the justice they deserve.

They rule, we must obey. It's as simple as that.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (Ki5SV)


you said it

hence, my last statement

amazingly calm

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (vEIlU)

145 122 Call Vindman's superior, tell him that Vindman is no longer welcome at NSC, and to send over someone else.

No.

If you're Trump you call up the SecDef and tell him 'LtC Vindman is now busted to Maj and get his retirement papers in front of him by COB tomorrow. If he doesn't sign he'll be taken down to at least Captain and maybe prosecuted.'

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (8erNz)

146 Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:07 PM (8erNz)

Again, cleaning out those two agencies might well have left them without employees, even if civil service rules permitted him to clean the places out (which they do not). Obama was very deliberate and embedded his people in CS positions over the last years of his administration. IIRC, even Valerie Jarrett might still have a protected commission job.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (NVYyb)

147 127 >>Steve Bannon wanted him off the NSC in 2017 ! so Trump has known about the Pillsbury Doughboy since at least then

If true then:

A) Trump is an idiot

or

B) Trump kept him there for a reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (ZLI7S)

Or Trump listened to his two Ex Generals who were running his Staff.

You know, the ones who pretty much admitted that they kept putting 'Processes' in place to slow down what the President wanted to do?

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (NgKpN)

148 Pixys GAYDAR never lies.

Posted by: garrett at November 18


Nooooooo! But I've loved being straight!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (LOq4H)

149 > I'm perfectly fine with these sham proceedings as long as they keep hitting Dentures Biden

Every time that bastard smiles, I can just smell his nasty creepy old man coffee/denture breath.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (oQp6r)

150 If true then:

A) Trump is an idiot

or

B) Trump kept him there for a reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (ZLI7S)

Or C) Rosenstein told Trump, "I've got a plan. See here's what you do ... you get impeached, they'll never expect it. Then we got'em!"

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 18, 2019 05:12 PM (hdzef)

151 The Deep State was successful in either sideling, or taking out, most of the staff Trump needed to clean the place up.

They went after Trump's people with a vengeance. The took out Flynn. They sidelined Sessions. They took out Manafort.

They were playing hardball, and many who WOULD have helped Trump, saw that, and decided not to get involved.

Face it. Working for Trump puts a big ole MSM Crosshair on your back.

They are trying to destroy anyone who would help Trump.
Posted by: Don Quixote


They were playing hardball, and we can't even play ping-pong.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2019 05:12 PM (XkxK0)

152

#BeforeChristmas

at least there is that

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:12 PM (vEIlU)

153 >>I don't think it's an either / or choice.

We'll find out soon enough.

In the meantime we can keep talking about Ukraine, the single scariest topic for Democrats. Nice of them to bring it up.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:12 PM (ZLI7S)

154 >>Nooooooo! But I've loved being straight!


It was all a lie.

A sweet pink lie you told yourself for years.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (0/eGj)

155 Warren once called herself 'political conservative'...

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1/1024th.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (+y/Ru)

156 Kill Kill Kill!!!!

Posted by: Don at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (CT2ag)

157 NSC, and to send over someone else.

No.

If you're Trump you call up the SecDef and tell him 'LtC Vindman is now busted to Maj and get his retirement papers in front of him by COB tomorrow. If he doesn't sign he'll be taken down to at least Captain and maybe prosecuted.'
Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (8erNz)

Nope, you call together the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to the Whitehouse.

You do not even enter the room, but have a projection up on the screen of UCMJ Article 88.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (NgKpN)

158 Assign Vindman to Fort Richardson, Alaska, with an Army DI whose orders are to get Lt. Col. Vindman into good enough physical shape to pass the ACFT.

Vindman will be confined to base, of course, because his caloric intake needs to be strictly controlled.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (I2/tG)

159

On a cheery note, my outdoor lit up animal critters are sparkling in the night already. Did not wait until after Thanksgiving.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (vEIlU)

160 143 Wasn't Harding the one that shit-canned 25% of gov't workers? Might want to re-visit that.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (Xvo1a)

That was just after ww1 wasn't it? I thi k they were closing whole departments.

Posted by: Someguy at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (O+iVW)

161 Ok horde, I posted from a different computer and my nic came up red. Panic now or later?

Just means you filled in a URL in addition to your nick and email.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2019 05:14 PM (ZGrMX)

162 I've said it before and I'll say it again - when Steve Scalise was nearly killed by a Democrat and the entire matter was shoved down the memory hole, with no nationwide vigils, smashing of DNC property or doxing of Democrat pols (not to mention utterly no demands that Hodgkinson's e-mails to a particular Dem rep be released), the ambulatory shitstains populating Capitol Hill knew for a fucking certainty that the right will never rebel, will never protest and will never mete out the justice they deserve.

They rule, we must obey. It's as simple as that.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (Ki5SV)

-----------------

I see things as slowly ramping up.

More and more people are getting tired of the nonsense of the left and making their presence felt.

I will admit, the left is playing it safe, and staying in their cities where they are protected.

However, once they forget their cities are safe and try their crap elsewhere, I don't expect them to have an easy time of it.

I would also say that our side is much slower to violence than the left, because we know all too well what happens once the ball starts rolling.

Just remember, things like this go very slowly, then, suddenly.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 18, 2019 05:14 PM (qC1Sy)

163 159
On a cheery note, my outdoor lit up animal critters are sparkling in the night already. Did not wait until after Thanksgiving.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (vEIlU)


FACT: People like you are the reason it's already snowed here 3 times.

Posted by: jwb7605 at November 18, 2019 05:15 PM (uU9ws)

164
Wonder what Chief Justice Roberts will think about that little precedent.

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*SQUWAK* IT'S A TAX *SQUWAK*

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at November 18, 2019 05:15 PM (941nP)

165 Is the balloon up yet?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at November 18, 2019 05:15 PM (clh2Z)

166 Again, cleaning out those two agencies might well have left them without employees, even if civil service rules permitted him to clean the places ou

Oh, that would have been the other part of my instruction to incoming Cabinet:

"Parts left out cost nothing and incur no warranty considerations" - apocryphal GM '30s management. I'd correct the quote, of course.

Seriously, they'd be instructed that a seat left empty is preferable to a seat filled by an Obamabot.

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:15 PM (8erNz)

167 One major problem management always has in trying to fix a broken organization is figuring out who the problem employees are. I have see dozens of times where management tries to address the problem and right off fires all the wrong people. The problem is that the perspective looking down (as a manager) is always distorted and bad people have a way of looking good. Incompetent, insubordinate people have a way of looking like they are trying to do the right thing, while competent people get frustrated and start to look like poison destroying moral, productivity, and direction of the entire group.

Pro-tip: Anyone who testifies against you at trial is part of your problem. Start by firing them, and everyone of their first and second order contacts.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 18, 2019 05:15 PM (LWu6U)

168 We'll find out soon enough

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:12 PM (ZLI7S)

You have to admit that line is funny with all the #TwoWeek snark you get.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:15 PM (Q5ALd)

169 Top men!

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 18, 2019 05:16 PM (0OmEj)

170 What with all that Belly and Mons Pubis fat I am pretty damn sure Lt Col Fatty McFatface is a leaker.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 18, 2019 05:09 PM (flINI)
.........

He's a pudgy, whiny, fighting machine! Striking fear in the hearts of our enemies, that they may be forced onto his diet and exercise routine.

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 05:16 PM (v0R5T)

171 168 We'll find out soon enough

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:12 PM (ZLI7S)

You have to admit that line is funny with all the #TwoWeek snark you get.

Tick, tock

Posted by: Hannity droning on and on at November 18, 2019 05:16 PM (6XlcD)

172 Why couldn't Trump set up Vindeman, give him and only him, something classified, and when he leaks it, arrest and jail him?

Why is it our side only getting arrested and going to jail?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2019 05:16 PM (XkxK0)

173 On a cheery note, my outdoor lit up animal critters are sparkling in the night already. Did not wait until after Thanksgiving.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette


Heh, found the Christmas music station today (yes I know it's not past Thanksgiving) I need the cheer.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 18, 2019 05:16 PM (LOq4H)

174 I know Vindman was injured in action and it's great that he served in the Army (and still does nominally) ... but does anyone have the details of how he got injured?

IED I read, but was he leading a column of hard-charging mechanized infantry in an assault? Or was he just on his way to liasoning a planning committee meeting of the Baghdad branch of the US-Ukrainian Iraqi Tree Planting Society or whatever?
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster
...........

It likely wasn't much of an injury.. He was injured by the IED one month into his deployment, and then went on to finish his full year of deployment.

As far as combat, he received the Combat Infantry Badge, which I believe you have to have fought in active ground combat to get.

meh.. that doesn't mean he can't be an asshole. Look at John McCain.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 18, 2019 05:16 PM (so+oy)

175 35
28 Let's also not forget that Vindman is a lazy fatass who couldn't pass his ACFT.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 18, 2019 04:56 PM (F73W5)



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Nor his tape.
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Reminds me of the fat Branch Assignment Officer that I had to talk to when I graduated from the Military Intelligence Advanced Officer Course. He waddled ahead of me as went to the office. Fucking pogue was what I was thinking.

Posted by: Jolo at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM (WrMOC)

176 >>Or Trump listened to his two Ex Generals who were running his Staff.

>>You know, the ones who pretty much admitted that they kept putting 'Processes' in place to slow down what the President wanted to do?

Trump has been plagued by leaks from within the White House pretty much since his first day in office. The reason a new, more secure server was installed to handle transcripts from foreign leaders was because someone leaked his call to the Australian PM, Mexican President and others.

A special leak team was set up by Dan Coats and Sessions in the Summer of 17 to go after these people.

No, I don't think Trump would listen to his generals and keep a known leaker on his staff. He might get rid of the generals though if he thought they were giving him bad advice. Which he did.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM (ZLI7S)

177 FACT: People like you are the reason it's already snowed here 3 times.

If he were lighting real animals on fire you'd be 140 in the shade.

But I know what you're saying...

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM (8erNz)

178 Tick Tock

Posted by: Hannutty et al at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM (Pzzpr)

179 Hearing on the radio President Trump is thinking of answering questions by writing, Sloppy Choppers said he should to exonerate himself.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM (ZCEU2)

180 Seriously, they'd be instructed that a seat left empty is preferable to a seat filled by an Obamabot.

Seconded.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM (HaL55)

181 >> Let's also not forget that Vindman is a lazy fatass who couldn't pass his ACFT.


Or an All You Can Eat Pancake Breakfast at the Rotary Club

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:18 PM (0/eGj)

182 On a cheery note, my outdoor lit up animal critters are sparkling in the night already. Did not wait until after Thanksgiving.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (vEIlU)

FACT: People like you are the reason it's already snowed here 3 times.
Posted by: jwb7605 at November 18, 2019 05:15 PM (uU9ws)


ha! That is why I put them out and hooked up all of the extension cords. We had already gotten snow and I hurried in between the last melt to below zero temps from now on!

It was hard enough putting it all together in the freezing cold!

We've been dumped on multiple times too. It's death outside for the next 5-6 months...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:18 PM (vEIlU)

183 Wonder what Chief Justice Roberts will think about that little precedent.

We know what he thought about the little President. It's a tax!

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:18 PM (8erNz)

184 The problem is that the perspective looking down (as a manager) is always distorted and bad people have a way of looking good.

==

true story

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 18, 2019 05:18 PM (G546f)

185 Holy crap! What a shit show!

Posted by: monkey at November 18, 2019 05:18 PM (CLteG)

186 Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (ZLI7S)
*******
JS one of those answers is correct sir

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 18, 2019 05:18 PM (BqBId)

187 They rule, we must obey. It's as simple as that.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (Ki5SV)
you said it
hence, my last statement
amazingly calm
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (vEIlU)

Just remember that at the top of the list of people demanding that NO ONE investigate that were Paul Ryan and John McCain, with big assists from Senators Corker and Flake, among others.

Getting rid of the traiters inside what is supposed to be Trump's party is vitally important before anything else can happen, and we're not there yet. As we've discussed in other thread, Trump has only 40 Senators he can really count on, and maybe 180 Congressmen. It's not a majority in either house, but it's a start. Also, I would bet that although he's made good inroads, more than half of the Judiciary and the Bureaucracy is still against him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:19 PM (Kpl3J)

188 Hearing on the radio President Trump is thinking of answering questions by writing, Sloppy Choppers said he should to exonerate himself.
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM (ZCEU2)


we can only hope he's trolling and baiting

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:19 PM (vEIlU)

189 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 18, 2019 05:04 PM (Ki5SV)



Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:11 PM (vEIlU)

Got a link to your mini crime waves? Be interesting to know what each of you did, that way there would be no copy catting.

Posted by: Popular front for the total liberation at November 18, 2019 05:19 PM (vqIkG)

190 @179

Under no circumstances should the President legitimize the Impeachment farce going on in the House.


And answering questions in any form will only beget more BS.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 18, 2019 05:19 PM (43qa7)

191 Steve Bannon wanted him off the NSC in 2017 ! so Trump has known about the Pillsbury Doughboy since at least then

If true then:

A) Trump is an idiot

or

B) Trump kept him there for a reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (ZLI7S)

-------

Trump and Bannon seem to have had a rocky relationship... it could be as simple as Trump disregarding his advice.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2019 05:20 PM (AzW6q)

192 >>>Every time that bastard smiles, I can just smell his nasty creepy old man coffee/denture breath.<<<

Aloe vera, Carmex and some kind of flea powder.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2019 05:20 PM (wo3c/)

193 > Assign Vindman to Fort Richardson, Alaska

Why do you guys always want to send these shitbirds here? We don't want them!

Besides, Fort Greely would be WAY more unpleasant than Fort Rich.
Current temperature at Fort Richardson: 36.
Current temperature at Fort Greely: 3.




Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:20 PM (oQp6r)

194 Or an All You Can Eat Pancake Breakfast at the Rotary Club

As someone who worked on setting up the facility for the last Rotary pancake breakfast here despite being of the enemy party, first (a) yeah, keep your carbs under control and (b) the local crews are not all-you-can-eat. sorry.

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:20 PM (8erNz)

195 South Dakota's new anti-meth slogan.

https://bit.ly/32Xnfzj

Ironically, it's also Vanilla Ice's slogan.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2019 05:21 PM (+y/Ru)

196 Trump has been plagued by leaks from within the White House pretty much since his first day in office. The reason a new, more secure server was installed to handle transcripts from foreign leaders was because someone leaked his call to the Australian PM, Mexican President and others.

A special leak team was set up by Dan Coats and Sessions in the Summer of 17 to go after these people.

No, I don't think Trump would listen to his generals and keep a known leaker on his staff. He might get rid of the generals though if he thought they were giving him bad advice. Which he did.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM (ZLI7S)

As I've said before, it's been pretty obvious that McMaster, or one of his top aides that McMaster was responsible for, was the Leaker.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:21 PM (Kpl3J)

197 163
159

On a cheery note, my outdoor lit up animal critters are sparkling in the night already. Did not wait until after Thanksgiving.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (vEIlU)



FACT: People like you are the reason it's already snowed here 3 times.


i keep trying to convince mrs. chronda that the fact that she runs an earthquake tracking app on her phone is causing earthquakes. she just refuses to bow to the earthquake entanglement being collapsed by observation argument, no matter how many cats schroedinger has.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 18, 2019 05:21 PM (sGtp+)

198 Need a wiki mons pubis site.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 18, 2019 05:21 PM (sU5UX)

199 Getting rid of the traiters inside what is supposed to be Trump's party is vitally important before anything else can happen, and we're not there yet. As we've discussed in other thread, Trump has only 40 Senators he can really count on, and maybe 180 Congressmen. It's not a majority in either house, but it's a start. Also, I would bet that although he's made good inroads, more than half of the Judiciary and the Bureaucracy is still against him.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:19 PM (Kpl3J)


I get it Tom. Thanks.
I also get that the Dems are in absolute meltdown because they KNOW what is coming.

replacing the Ginsburg by Trump
the completion of the wall
and the #reports hopefully with handcuff upgrades
money laundering being blocked and cut off

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:21 PM (vEIlU)

200 @179

Under no circumstances should the President legitimize the Impeachment farce going on in the House.


And answering questions in any form will only beget more BS.
Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium
.......

agreed. This is not a trial. That happens in the Senate.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 18, 2019 05:21 PM (so+oy)

201 Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM (ZLI7S)

I'd think it probably went more like:

President: Kelly? This Vindman, I hear he's been leaking stuff. I want him gone.

Kelly: We'll have to do an investigation first Sir, and get his Command involved, it may take some time.

President: Ok Kelly. Now about these other 43 things....

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (NgKpN)

202 I'm guessing husband shot wife and boyfriend and then himself.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:09 PM (Q5ALd)

------------------

The only way to stop this sort of tragedy is to implement the Democrats two-pronged policy of
- Gun Confiscation
- Throuple Acceptance

Posted by: Katie Hill at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (q/kmn)

203 One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint so wrong?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

204 The Wal Mart shooting of today:

A white man and a white woman were shot inside a car, and another white man was killed outside of the car, according to a Duncan police Facebook post.

--

I'll give you three guesses as to why it's a national news story.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (WZv3r)

205 As I've said before, it's been pretty obvious that McMaster, or one of his top aides that McMaster was responsible for, was the Leaker.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:21 PM (Kpl3J)

Well many of us here, Knew mcmaster wasa trouble from the word go. his only fan here was a banana split

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:23 PM (cEsBM)

206 203 One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint so wrong?

Because House Democrat lawyers told him/her/it what to say.

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:23 PM (8erNz)

207 i keep trying to convince mrs. chronda that the fact that she runs an earthquake tracking app on her phone is causing earthquakes. she just refuses to bow to the earthquake entanglement being collapsed by observation argument, no matter how many cats schroedinger has.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 18, 2019 05:21 PM (sGtp+)


in my case, the reindeer should mean more presents this year

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:23 PM (vEIlU)

208 white man and a white woman were shot inside a car, and another white man was killed outside of the car, according to a Duncan police Facebook post.

===

TRAFFIC VIOLENCE

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 18, 2019 05:23 PM (G546f)

209 203 One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint so wrong?

He didn't expect the transcript to be released

Posted by: Hannity droning on and on at November 18, 2019 05:23 PM (6XlcD)

210 On a cheery note, my outdoor lit up animal critters are sparkling in the night already. Did not wait until after Thanksgiving.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:13 PM (vEIlU)

--

You have angered the turkey gods!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (WZv3r)

211 Under no circumstances should the President legitimize the Impeachment farce going on in the House.





And answering questions in any form will only beget more BS.

From: Your President
To: Congress, re: your impeachment inquiry.

LOLGF
xxoo,Your President, who is not Hillary. Deal with it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (HaL55)

212 Vindman appears to be some sort weasel.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (JCrfD)

213
One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint so wrong?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

--------

My guess: Because Schiff's staff wrote it for him, and it was based on conjecture, wishful thinking, and pure fantasy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (AzW6q)

214 >> Let's also not forget that Vindman is a lazy fatass who couldn't pass his ACFT.

Or an All You Can Eat Pancake Breakfast at the Rotary Club

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:18 PM (0/eGj)

You been heah four howahs, you go now!

Posted by: Chef Wu at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (v0R5T)

215 Well many of us here, Knew mcmaster wasa trouble from the word go. his only fan here was a banana split

So I can't order hardware from mcmaster.com any more? They're in trouble? This is going to be serious problem.

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (8erNz)

216 >>203
One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried
in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint
so wrong?

Chinchillas like to roll in dirt?

Posted by: Galil at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (Pzzpr)

217 >> One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint so wrong?


Game Roomed the Strategy, then shoehorned it into play?

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (0/eGj)

218 One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint so wrong?

It's been answered. He never heard the call. It was all second hand

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (cEsBM)

219 Heh, found the Christmas music station today (yes I know it's not past Thanksgiving) I need the cheer.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 18, 2019 05:16 PM (LOq4H)


lol, I was listening to Christmas on a country station and an Easy Listening station today while tooling around. Fun stuff.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (vEIlU)

220 212 Vindman appears to be some sort weasel.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 18, 2019 05:24 PM (JCrfD)
----
*ahem*

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (MVjcR)

221
Sean Davis @seanmdav
44m
Fusion Natasha is the Ron Burgundy of conspiracy theories. There is no hoax she won't repeat if Fusion GPS puts it on the TelePrompter.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (BqBId)

222 "Lets work together. Meth. We're on it."

Wonder how many committees that had to go through, all of which approved it.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (1XNk8)

223 Under no circumstances should the President legitimize the Impeachment farce going on in the House.

This.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (JCrfD)

224 > - Gun Confiscation

> - Throuple Acceptance

Don't forget:
- Free abortions for illegal aliens

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (oQp6r)

225 203 One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint so wrong?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

Oh, you think it was intentional disinformation by Trump rather than just standard-issue "game of telephone" stuff mixed with hyperbolic anti-Trump bias of those recounting the story. Hilarious.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (hdzef)

226 artisinal ette is inspiring me to go hang my Christmas wreath now

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (G546f)

227 Why is this fat little lefttard still walking free?

The POS wore full uniform in public and trashed and lied about his boss, the President of the United States?

Or is being a #NeverTrumper protection extend into the Army Chain of Command, too?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (sy5kK)

228 One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint so wrong?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

Ever play pass the story as a kid.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (Q5ALd)

229 Why do you guys always want to send these shitbirds here? We don't want them!

We could always create the post of assistant military attache in our consulate in Ekaterinburg.

Have to keep an eye on the Central Military District, after all.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (I2/tG)

230 WE are proud of Lt Col Vindmans patriotic service

Posted by: Golden Corral at November 18, 2019 05:26 PM (flINI)

231 @206

Yes, it's been apparent from roughly 5 minutes after the "Whistleblower" complaint was disclosed that he was a cutout and simply a vehicle for inserting the impeachment drama, virus like into the body politic.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 18, 2019 05:26 PM (43qa7)

232 Serious question: is this mons pubis too big? Why would a woman be self conscious over a mons pubis size.

http://traclavalmirs29.soup.io/post/525147674/ Large-mons-pubis-photos

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 18, 2019 05:26 PM (sU5UX)

233 Under no circumstances should the President legitimize the Impeachment farce going on in the House.


And answering questions in any form will only beget more BS.
Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium
.......

agreed. This is not a trial. That happens in the Senate.

=============

yeah, this inquiry is such a farce

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:26 PM (FEQY4)

234 I don't think President Trump should do anything, he can't exonerate himself anymore than Epstein could kill himself.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2019 05:26 PM (ZCEU2)

235

Great. Now I'm craving Pancakes.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 05:26 PM (oJjzX)

236 Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (hdzef)

Vindman was on the call wasn't he?

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (Q5ALd)

237 >>>Every time that bastard smiles, I can just smell his nasty creepy old man coffee/denture breath.

Aloe vera, Carmex and some kind of flea powder.
Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2019 05:20 PM (wo3c/)

----------------

*fist pump* YES, I didn't make the list!

Posted by: tapioca pudding at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (q/kmn)

238 >>He didn't expect the transcript to be released

It was always going to be released at some point if this thing got legs. Trump stopped it early but there's no chance in hell he would have kept it secret if it meant he was going to be removed.

And why not be accurate? The left insists what the transcript actually says is impeachment worthy.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (ZLI7S)

239 Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 18, 2019 05:23 PM (G546f)
*******
Jealous Husband caught his wife & her Honey Schtupping & killed them & then himself

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (BqBId)

240 If they would revoke these leakers security clearances then it pretty much puts them out of their government job. Which is a good thing.

Posted by: Jolo at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (WrMOC)

241 OT: This Astros cheating scandal seems to be blowing up more by the day.

Now there's a rumor (I know, I know,) that some players had electronic devices disguised as wristbands that would buzz certain ways depending on the catcher's sign.

Talk of revoking the title is ludicrous (and it's ludicrous when the NCAA does it too, you can't change the past,) but the penalties may be harsh.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (ayFCE)

242 222 "Lets work together. Meth. We're on it."

Wonder how many committees that had to go through, all of which approved it.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (1XNk

My favorite comment on that thread was "If we were any higher, we'd be North Dakota."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:28 PM (Kpl3J)

243 U.S. Presidential hopeful Senator Bernie Sandaer said in a twitter post Monday, "Israeli settlements in occupied territory are illegal. This is clear from international law and multiple United Nations resolutions. Once again, Mr. Trump is isolating the United States and undermining diplomacy by pandering to his extremist base."

Oh the UN makes law? Since when?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:28 PM (cEsBM)

244 What is even more vexing, as it completely negates the premise of impeachment for any reason, including "abuse of power", is the total failure by the GOP types to educate and smack-down on the *absence of any impropriety in even the imagined Trump actions*.


Question to every "witness" should include: "do you believe anyone running for office in the US, or who formerly held high office, should have immunity from investigation for corruption or other illegal or improper activities?"


Let the sound bites pile up on that one.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:28 PM (QDnY+)

245 artisinal ette is inspiring me to go hang my Christmas wreath now
Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (G546f)


I say, if it will put a smile on your face, do it!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:28 PM (vEIlU)

246 We could always create the post of assistant military attache in our consulate in Ekaterinburg.

And Vindman's language skills would make him a natural for the job, even if Ekaterinburg isn't quite cold enough.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:28 PM (I2/tG)

247 Jealous Husband caught his wife & her Honey Schtupping & killed them & then himself

You forgot the dramatic History Channel music.

Posted by: JEM at November 18, 2019 05:28 PM (8erNz)

248 No, I don't think Trump would listen to his generals and keep a known leaker on his staff. He might get rid of the generals though if he thought they were giving him bad advice. Which he did.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:17 PM
--------------
Why have his generals not gotten rid of vindeman and filed ucmj charges against him? Are they in on it too? Seems like ignoring the CinC and violating rules regarding chain of command are pretty serious crimes. I've seen other soldiers relieved for far less serious infractions.

Posted by: Drc at November 18, 2019 05:28 PM (vbaSG)

249 Vindman was on the call wasn't he?
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (Q5ALd)

Yes I think so, but the cock blower was that Eric guy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (cEsBM)

250 I think the best thing about this impeachment shit is the Dems don't think they look stupid or bad AT ALL.

Meanwhile, they look like complete ignorant pieces of shit to the rest of America.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (Zz0t1)

251 Jealous Husband caught his wife & her Honey Schtupping & killed them & then himself
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (BqBId)

The bodies were found IN a CAR na beside a CAR

clear cut traffic violence!
Just ask DancesWithLobbyists

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (G546f)

252 Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 18, 2019 05:25 PM (hdzef)

Vindman was on the call wasn't he?

No, he was not.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (JCrfD)

253 Sooth - ham and cheese omelet tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (ZCEU2)

254 >>Now I'm craving Pancakes.


And Cow Bell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI8Vg53nuF4

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (0/eGj)

255 It may really have been as simple as some NeverTrumper who heard the call sayng "You won't believe what that idiot said" and it getting amplified and distorted by every other NeverTrumper it was told to until it reached Schiff,Who is so credulous about anything anti Trump he got punked by Russian radio comedians

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (KNsKs)

256 - Free abortions for illegal aliens



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


I can sorta get my brain around that one, sorta.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (LOq4H)

257 One question that has still not be answered and has
been somewhat buried in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage
to get his complaint so wrong?


Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM

---

schiff's staff wrote it for him.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (JUOKG)

258 Vindman was on the call wasn't he?
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (Q5ALd)


And he tried to get the monitors to change the transcript.

He's a real piece of shit who should be shot by firing squad.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (Zz0t1)

259 Bologna is hot dogs for people who like pancakes.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (1XNk8)

260 Vindman was on the call wasn't he?

No, he was not.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (JCrfD)

Ok thanks.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:30 PM (cEsBM)

261
...Once again, Mr. Trump is isolating the United States and undermining diplomacy by pandering to his extremist base."

Did you all catch that?
Bernie Sanders just said President Trump's base is very, very, pro-Israel (therefore very, very, pro-Jew.)


Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 05:30 PM (oJjzX)

262 Vindman, "You're not the boss of me."

Posted by: Builder Berg at November 18, 2019 05:30 PM (+Yu7u)

263 241 OT: This Astros cheating scandal seems to be blowing up more by the day.

Now there's a rumor (I know, I know,) that some players had electronic devices disguised as wristbands that would buzz certain ways depending on the catcher's sign.

Talk of revoking the title is ludicrous (and it's ludicrous when the NCAA does it too, you can't change the past,) but the penalties may be harsh.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (ayFCE)

Those stats tho.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 18, 2019 05:30 PM (sU5UX)

264 schiff's staff wrote it for him.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (JUOKG)

ewww

Posted by: vmom trapped in yarn at November 18, 2019 05:30 PM (G546f)

265 I prefer bologna to hot dogs.


Way more filling.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 18, 2019 05:31 PM (0/eGj)

266 He didn't expect the transcript to be released

It was always going to be released at some point if this thing got legs. Trump stopped it early but there's no chance in hell he would have kept it secret if it meant he was going to be removed.

And why not be accurate? The left insists what the transcript actually says is impeachment worthy.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (ZLI7S)


Even if they thought it might be released - which I think they gambled not, they probably thought there would be SOMETHING in the transcript they could get him for. The more you show, the more you are open to scrutiny and more opinions and more interpretations.

And changing of the wording of the transcripts.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:31 PM (vEIlU)

267 Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Laments: Mimes, Why Did It Have To Be Mimes? at November 18, 2019 05:31 PM (L5Ypf)

268 Jealous Husband caught his wife & her Honey Schtupping & killed them & then himself
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (BqBId)


There are also reports that they were divorced and she was with her new boyfriend. The shooter killed himself when an armed citizen confronted him

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:31 PM (Zz0t1)

269 Why have his generals not gotten rid of vindeman and filed ucmj charges against him? Are they in on it too? Seems like ignoring the CinC and violating rules regarding chain of command are pretty serious crimes. I've seen other soldiers relieved for far less serious infractions.
Posted by: Drc at November 18, 2019 05:28 PM (vbaSG)

I have a feeling that those of us on this blog know more about what Vindeman's been up to than any of his bosses do. Since he never went out and did any of that on the golf course, how would they ever know?

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:31 PM (Kpl3J)

270 Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

Stupid computer - yes, Jack - that is a very good question. Almost like there was a plan to set the Democrats up.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Laments: Mimes, Why Did It Have To Be Mimes? at November 18, 2019 05:32 PM (L5Ypf)

271 >>Vindman was on the call wasn't he?

>>No, he was not.

Yes he was.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:32 PM (ZLI7S)

272 Remember, Vindmann admitted intending to change the record of the phone call, but couldn't because the admin had moved it to a server he couldn't access.

I think Vindmann was supposed to change the transcript to include incriminating elements that the Dems could use.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 18, 2019 05:32 PM (oVJmc)

273 Enjoy your evenings!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:32 PM (vEIlU)

274 I think the best thing about this impeachment shit is the Dems don't think they look stupid or bad AT ALL.

Meanwhile, they look like complete ignorant pieces of shit to the rest of America.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:29 PM (Zz0t1)
.........

All of it being run by King Lollipop.

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (v0R5T)

275 Tick tock - Grassley announces IG will testify on report on Dec. 11 to Judiciary.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (QDnY+)

276 I'm all for free...nay mandatory...abortions for illegals. no more anchors.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (FEQY4)

277 The Left hear words and sentences different than sane people and it's even a worse edit when they relay what they think they heard to a third party.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (Q5ALd)

278

Everyone of these alleged whistleblowers or assclowns who have come forward because they had the vapors over a phone call is a hard core leftist in on the coup.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (mpeBU)

279 Enjoy your evenings!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:32 PM (vEIlU)


Have a good one.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (Zz0t1)

280 >>I think Vindmann was supposed to change the transcript to include incriminating elements that the Dems could use.

I think he was going to change it to more closely align with Ciaramella's complaint.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

281 Vindman was on the call wasn't he?

>>No, he was not.

Yes he was.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:32 PM (ZLI7S)

That is what I thought. And it was that fat bastard Vindman who leaked it to that eric guy who leaked it to schiff thru his lawyer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (cEsBM)

282 > even if Ekaterinburg isn't quite cold enough.
Vladivostok, just across the border from North Korea.
Or maybe one of the outposts on Novaya Zemlya -- the fallout from the Tsar Bomba should have cooled off by now. Mostly.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:34 PM (oQp6r)

283 127 >>Steve Bannon wanted him off the NSC in 2017 ! so Trump has known about the Pillsbury Doughboy since at least then

If true then:

A) Trump is an idiot

or

B) Trump kept him there for a reason.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:08 PM (ZLI7S)


I'm not a fan of Vindman and all the other Deep Staters, but Trump couldn't fire everyone and find knowledgeable replacements in time to keep the NSC and other key offices functioning without a serious delay. A somewhat similar situation from the Civil War:

Republican Congressmen and Senators were pressuring Lincoln to replace a general (can't recall his name). Lincoln asked who he should replace the general with. Their reply was, "Anyone!" Lincoln said, "Anyone may be good enough for you, but I need someone."

Posted by: Gref at November 18, 2019 05:34 PM (AMIL/)

284 U.S. Presidential hopeful Senator Bernie Sandaer said in a twitter post Monday, "Israeli settlements in occupied territory are illegal. This is clear from international law and multiple United Nations resolutions. Once again, Mr. Trump is isolating the United States and undermining diplomacy by pandering to his extremist base."

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Can't we all just get along and wipe out israel?

Posted by: Zombie Rodney King at November 18, 2019 05:34 PM (+y/Ru)

285 Jealous Husband caught his wife & her Honey Schtupping & killed them & then himself

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 18, 2019 05:27 PM (BqBId)
..........

Paolo is dead?

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 05:34 PM (v0R5T)

286 have you guys heard Rich Zeoli's theory on this (Philly area talk radio guy) ?

he thinks the "whistleblower" is the President himself!

he STILL thinks this. he thinks President Trump initiated all of this, and they assumed there was a real whistleblower and jumped all over it!

not sure how it makes sense but he argues it fairly effectively. this is something Mr Trump has done before (call in "complaints" as someone other than himself)

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 18, 2019 05:35 PM (Rarvo)

287 @256
You mean "mandatory". right?

Posted by: Builder Berg at November 18, 2019 05:35 PM (+Yu7u)

288 275 Tick tock - Grassley announces IG will testify on report on Dec. 11 to Judiciary.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (QDnY+)

Which means, obviously, that the report will be out and in public by that time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:35 PM (Kpl3J)

289 I would like to wish upon them what they wanted to do to me. Midnight raid upon my home, hauled off to god knows where to hit rocks with large hammers for the rest of my life.

Posted by: Picric at November 18, 2019 05:35 PM (nonGu)

290 > Bernie Sanders just said President Trump's base is very, very, pro-Israel (therefore very, very, pro-Jew.)


But wait, I thought Trump was Literally Hitler?

Now I'm all confused.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (oQp6r)

291 U.S. Presidential hopeful Senator Bernie Sandaer said in a twitter post Monday, "Israeli settlements in occupied territory are illegal. This is clear from international law and multiple United Nations resolutions. Once again, Mr. Trump is isolating the United States and undermining diplomacy by pandering to his extremist base."

-
Can't we all just get along and wipe out israel?
Posted by: Zombie Rodney King at November 18, 2019 05:34 PM (+y/Ru)


Some say international law says nothing of the sort about the settlements and others say it violates it.

Seems like law would be searchable and fact could be found......

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (Zz0t1)

292 here's what I think. the officers above Vindman in the chain of command must not ever want to be promoted again.

Posted by: x at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (nFwvY)

293 "International law and UN resolutions" LOL get fucked you alter cocker

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (KNsKs)

294 288 275 Tick tock - Grassley announces IG will testify on report on Dec. 11 to Judiciary.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (QDnY+)

Which means, obviously, that the report will be out and in public by that time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:35 PM (Kpl3J)

Then, if my math is correct, the report will be released in #TwoWeeks.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (1XNk8)

295 think he was going to change it to more closely align with Ciaramella's complaint.
-------------
So was the fact that the transcript was stored in a secure location that vindeman couldn't access intended to flush out the leakers? Or was it just a dumb lucky decision?

Posted by: Drc at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (vbaSG)

296 Schiff knows this is never going to a vote. It's a show trial to try and bend the needle and damage PDT as much as possible.

There won't be 5-day-per-week hearings. He'll pace it with only one or two "witness" sessions per week, and with a bottomless supply of deep-staters at State, the White House, and more places, this can go on through next summer.

We'll be hearing from park rangers by spring, then janitors.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 18, 2019 05:37 PM (+fPHo)

297
But wait, I thought Trump was Literally Hitler?

Now I'm all confused.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (oQp6r)



They've called Ben "My sister has big tits" Shapiro a Nazi, so you can have it both ways.

It's in the handbook.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:37 PM (Zz0t1)

298 So was the fact that the transcript was stored in a secure location that vindeman couldn't access intended to flush out the leakers? Or was it just a dumb lucky decision?


I think it was a very smart lucky decision

The Left is coming at us from every angle they can. Thank God our President is trying to button things up in the WH as much as possible. He has to act fast and act smart!

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 18, 2019 05:37 PM (Rarvo)

299 Jealous Husband caught his wife her Honey Schtupping killed them then himself



Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit

Rep Hill: "Wait! What? Run that by me again, slowly."

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 18, 2019 05:37 PM (LOq4H)

300 Bernie Sanders just said President Trump's base is very, very, pro-Israel (therefore very, very, pro-Jew.)


But wait, I thought Trump was Literally Hitler?

Now I'm all confused.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (oQp6r)

Cognitive Dissonance is not just a river in Israel.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:37 PM (Q5ALd)

301 One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried
in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint
so wrong?



It's been answered. He never heard the call. It was all second hand


Speaking of Telephone (the children's game), that game is usually played with a bunch of kids. Democrats can play it all by themselves.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 05:38 PM (HaL55)

302 U.S. Presidential hopeful Senator Bernie Sandaer said in a twitter post Monday, "Israeli settlements in occupied territory are illegal."

--

Fine. Israel, enjoy destroying everything they have and building nice homes after you clean up the rubble.

You're violating international whatever if you don't do it that way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 18, 2019 05:38 PM (WZv3r)

303 Vladivostok much milder than Ekaterineburg - port vs. continental climate.


We have a consulate in Ekaterineburg? Advisory to staff - no camping in the mountains, and everybody keep your gas mask on hand.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:38 PM (QDnY+)

304 296 Schiff knows this is never going to a vote. It's a show trial to try and bend the needle and damage PDT as much as possible.


Yes Trump is getting the Netanyahu treatment

and just like with Bibi, the day after he wins reelection it all disappears magically, than just before the midterm election it pops back up...

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 18, 2019 05:38 PM (Rarvo)

305 wow get a load of these shit bags:

Volkov said. "If the chair wants to hold him in contempt for protecting the whistleblower, God be with you'

mm hmmm.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:38 PM (FEQY4)

306 Speaking of Non-Binary Ben, I see he had Rich Lowry as his Sunday Special guest.

These NeverTrumper's really are just an endless circle of circle-jerking circle-jerkers, aren't they.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:38 PM (1XNk8)

307 Vladivostok, just across the border from North Korea.

Nah - Vindman could fly to Japan on weekends.

Ekaterinburg would be better, since it's more isolated. Unfortunately, we don't have diplomatic representation in Norilsk or Magadan.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:39 PM (I2/tG)

308 One question that has still not be answered and has been somewhat buried
in all the news, how did the whistleblower manage to get his complaint
so wrong?


I think this answers your question.

https://youtu.be/hajBdDM2qdg

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:39 PM (Zz0t1)

309 281 Vindman was on the call wasn't he?

>>No, he was not.

Yes he was.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:32 PM (ZLI7S)

That is what I thought. And it was that fat bastard Vindman who leaked it to that eric guy who leaked it to schiff thru his lawyer
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (cEsBM)

My guess is there is another cut out in there.

Vindy told someone, like, oh, his Twin Brother, who then told the Blower.

Which is why it had so much wrong. Its like that game where have everyone in a line, whisper something to the first person, who passes it on down the line.

And it comes out nothing like the original statement.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 05:39 PM (NgKpN)

310
> Bernie Sanders just said President Trump's base is very, very, pro-Israel (therefore very, very, pro-Jew.)


But wait, I thought Trump was Literally Hitler?

Now I'm all confused.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia



That's what I thought. I thought we were anti-semites.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 05:39 PM (oJjzX)

311
I think he was going to change it to more closely align with Ciaramella's complaint.


Remember Schiff saying that Trump repeated 'seven times' in the phone call? That's pretty specific. Strangely specific.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 18, 2019 05:39 PM (oVJmc)

312 Volkov said. "If the chair wants to hold him in contempt for protecting the whistleblower, God be with you

---basically, everything they say is sacred and we can never disagree with their ever changing value system. I choose not the play that game.

There's no whistleblower protection anywhere for some guy who disagrees with potus policy. This isn't some guy exposing wrongdoing, it's some guy who, uh, wants to be president.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:39 PM (FEQY4)

313 A quest for truth, as serious as Python's quest for The Holy Grail.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 18, 2019 05:40 PM (DfC7R)

314 PDT could not fire everyone, but he should have trusted NO ONE. And much like the Mafia, he should have not spoken in Front of ANY ONE either. Only a trusted family BUFFER...and by the way I am not kidding. PDT can trust no one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:40 PM (cEsBM)

315 Transcript security as noted by Jack was increased long before this due to the immediate [unbelievable, unprecedented, outrageous] leaks of very first PDT calls with leaders of Mehico and Oz.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:41 PM (QDnY+)

316 it sucks to have our leaders and our press be so completely reactive to bullshit from the left. We can't even attack them from the side. We just have to sit here and argue with their idiotic mental delusions.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:41 PM (FEQY4)

317 Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 18, 2019 05:35 PM (Rarvo)

That would be hilarious if it were true.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Laments: Mimes, Why Did It Have To Be Mimes? at November 18, 2019 05:41 PM (L5Ypf)

318 >>>And yet knowing all of this he was kept around and allowed to be part of the call with Zelensky

they were on to him.

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 18, 2019 05:41 PM (dnjy6)

319 Vindman testified he was not at NSC when the javelins were delivered 4/18. He said he was appointed to the WH in 7/18. Wasn't Bannon gone by then?

Posted by: Ever at November 18, 2019 05:41 PM (dkrmM)

320 74

There is nothing left to say.

We are watching the Democrats and the media control the narrative.

Day after day.

They are liars and felons. They are rapists and pedos. They are stomping on the Constitution.

We know they will go to any depths and are hated more than ever before.

I am so surprised there are so many calm, level headed people watching this.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (vEIlU)


Because the only answer is open street warfare and 4GW tactics. A 21st century version of Northern Ireland's "Troubles" 1968-1998, on steroids.


We are also witnessing the proverbial frog boiling of the American citizen. This has been going on for a while now.

But wait until the grocery stores in cities aren't replenished for 72 hours, and then you'd best be pulling out your four-leaf clover and hiding your pot 'o gold.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 18, 2019 05:41 PM (sy5kK)

321 Bernie Sanders just said President Trump's base is very, very, pro-Israel (therefore very, very, pro-Jew.)


But wait, I thought Trump was Literally Hitler?

Now I'm all confused.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


That's what I thought. I thought we were anti-semites.

-
Now what am I going to do with all these brown shirts?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2019 05:41 PM (+y/Ru)

322 I think he was going to change it to more closely align with Ciaramella's complaint.

Remember Schiff saying that Trump repeated 'seven times' in the phone call? That's pretty specific. Strangely specific.

====

this may be the thing that Ciaramella kept trying to add stuff to the transcript that wasn't actually said.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:41 PM (FEQY4)

323 We have a consulate in Ekaterinburg?[/]

A Russian cop in Novosibirsk demanded a sixty dollar bribe once, and I meditated on the fact that the closest American diplomatic representation was a thousand miles away in Ekaterinburg.

I paid the bribe.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:42 PM (I2/tG)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:42 PM (I2/tG)

325 The Fresno shooting appears to be a Hmong family dispute ... the one name given was a Hmong singer ...


iirc, the Hmong man that murdered like 5 Americans in Minnesota years back was deer hunting illegally on their land. The Hmong were our "allies" in Vietnam? so it was brilliant to relocate them to America.


lots of comparisons to other regions where our "allies" end up invading our homeland. (MENA jiadists moving to Europe and America, Central America coming across the border, China our favorite trade partner for decades ... also invading ... ) Sum Ting Wong

Posted by: illiniwek at November 18, 2019 05:42 PM (Cus5s)

326 >>they were on to him.

maaaaayyyybe

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:42 PM (ZLI7S)

327 ....but you will whistleBlow me first.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:42 PM (Zz0t1)

328 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:35 PM (Kpl3J)
********
SOOOOO Steiner is breathing Hard then ?

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 18, 2019 05:43 PM (BqBId)

329 whew close one there Arc

Posted by: BlackOrchid..A.E.D.K.H. at November 18, 2019 05:43 PM (Rarvo)

330 ARC, Birobidzhan. Been there. Paradise. Excellent location for a special military mission. And not even any decent bagels, despite the history.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:43 PM (QDnY+)

331 iirc, the Hmong man that murdered like 5 Americans in Minnesota years back was deer hunting illegally on their land. The Hmong were our "allies" in Vietnam? so it was brilliant to relocate them to America.

===

at least we were trying to bring in allies...now we're straight up bringing in enemies.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:43 PM (FEQY4)

332 Federica Mogherini said the position of the EU regarding the legality of Israeli settlements in the West Bank remains unchanged.


???
And
Nobody cares what you think

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:43 PM (cEsBM)

333 Joy Behar says one of the reasons Bootyjuice is doing so well is because "he's in a very traditional marriage."

https://tinyurl.com/wxvjge6

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 18, 2019 05:44 PM (sWM8x)

334 I am so surprised there are so many calm, level headed people watching this.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 18, 2019 05:01 PM (vEIlU)


Your nick has anal in it. SURPRISE!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:44 PM (Zz0t1)

335 Posted by: illiniwek at November 18, 2019 05:42 PM (Cus5s

The subject of Gran Torino. Damn Clint was ancient in that movie and that was almost 12 years ago.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:44 PM (Q5ALd)

336 333 Joy Behar says one of the reasons Bootyjuice is doing so well is because "he's in a very traditional marriage."

https://tinyurl.com/wxvjge6
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 18, 2019 05:44 PM (sWM8x)

RIIIGHT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 18, 2019 05:45 PM (2B9A/)

337 Bologna is hot dogs for people who like pancakes.

What, then, is a corn dog?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 05:45 PM (HaL55)

338 iirc, the Hmong man that murdered like 5 Americans in Minnesota years back was deer hunting illegally on their land. The Hmong were our "allies" in Vietnam? so it was brilliant to relocate them to America.

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The Hmong have a good deal of catching up to do if they're to surpass the Muslims and the Mexicans.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2019 05:45 PM (+y/Ru)

339 Birobidzhan

Agreed, an ideal posting.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:45 PM (I2/tG)

340 333 Joy Behar says one of the reasons Bootyjuice is doing so well is because "he's in a very traditional marriage."

https://tinyurl.com/wxvjge6

====

well, he did marry the first and only human being he had sex with...or maybe it was the first person he was in a open dressing room in.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:45 PM (FEQY4)

341 This NSC Boss is in CYA mode....Just like every other person on the public dole....

Posted by: Builder Berg at November 18, 2019 05:45 PM (+Yu7u)

342 Now there's a rumor (I know, I know,) that some players had electronic devices disguised as wristbands that would buzz certain ways depending on the catcher's sign.

I heard that the Astros also conducted a voodoo Black Mass somewhere out in the East Texas gulf coast swamps. Satan appeared in the form of a big alligator with glowing red eyes and a huge shlong.

Posted by: Tweety Bird at November 18, 2019 05:45 PM (ykYG2)

343 Hmong family? Get off my lawn!

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 05:45 PM (v0R5T)

344 /soc

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 18, 2019 05:46 PM (ykYG2)

345 333 Joy Behar says one of the reasons Bootyjuice is doing so well is because "he's in a very traditional marriage."

https://tinyurl.com/wxvjge6
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 18, 2019 05:44 PM (sWM8x)

---

*blinks*

Posted by: SMH at November 18, 2019 05:46 PM (RU4sa)

346 Joy Behar says one of the reasons Bootyjuice is doing so well is because "he's in a very traditional marriage."



Behar is giving Sally Kohn a run for her money.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 18, 2019 05:46 PM (oVJmc)

347 Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:42 PM (I2/tG)

Negotiate when you can. Compromise when you have to.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:46 PM (Q5ALd)

348 There's no whistleblower protection anywhere for some guy who disagrees with potus policy. This isn't some guy exposing wrongdoing, it's some guy who, uh, wants to be president.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:39 PM (FEQY4)

More, Whistleblowers are not immune from the Consequences of breaking security Laws.

Otherwise, Snowden wouldn't be in Russia.

Vindman clearly told people who were not on the clearance for the call, about the call.

Everyone who then was a recipient of said information, is an accessory after the fact, including SHIFT for brains and his staff, as they knowingly were in possession of classified material, they KNEW they were not supposed to have access to.

They then gave said information to the PRESS, instead of using the in House avenues to address the situation.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 05:46 PM (NgKpN)

349 I wonder how common open dressing rooms are, there was a men's department store I used to go to that had a single room that was 30 x 10 or so where you tried on your clothes all in theopen , strangly they closed down.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:46 PM (FEQY4)

350 Tick tock - Grassley announces IG will testify on report on Dec. 11 to Judiciary.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:33 PM (QDnY+)

Which means, obviously, that the report will be out and in public by that time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 05:35 PM (Kpl3J)

Then, if my math is correct, the report will be released in #TwoWeeks.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (1XNk

Just in time for the Holidays.....when no one will be paying attention.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 18, 2019 05:46 PM (CqE5x)

351 >>What, then, is a corn dog?

Practice.

Posted by: Michele Bachmann at November 18, 2019 05:47 PM (Pzzpr)

352 What was the outcome of Trump at the hospital today?

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 18, 2019 05:47 PM (JcXHH)

353 >>What, then, is a corn dog?



Career Killer

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 05:48 PM (0/eGj)

354 Joy Behar says one of the reasons Bootyjuice is doing so well is because "he's in a very traditional marriage."

https://tinyurl.com/wxvjge6

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 18, 2019 05:44 PM (sWM8x)
........

I, for one, look forward to welcoming him and our First Ladyboy to the White House.

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 05:48 PM (v0R5T)

355 333 Joy Behar says one of the reasons Bootyjuice is doing so well is because "he's in a very traditional marriage."

https://tinyurl.com/wxvjge6

====


Yeah, that's not how this works, you ignorant slut.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:48 PM (Zz0t1)

356 Then, if my math is correct, the report will be released in #TwoWeeks.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:36 PM (1XNk

Just in time for the Holidays.....when no one will be paying attention.

===

I heard Schiff has declared that the IG report cannot be discussed.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:48 PM (FEQY4)

357 What was the outcome of Trump at the hospital today?
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 18, 2019 05:47 PM (JcXHH)

4 of the 5 people he laid hands on were cured. Press criticizing him the still sick 5th person.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 18, 2019 05:49 PM (Q5ALd)

358 And yet knowing all of this he was kept around and allowed to be part of the call with Zelensky



they were on to him.


That would be sneaky and underhanded to keep him around and maybe try to find out who else is in on it?


I like it. This is what fighting back looks like. 'Bout damned time...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 05:49 PM (HaL55)

359 >>Just in time for the Holidays.....when no one will be paying attention.

Do you know how long a gap there is between December 11 and Christmas?

Two weeks. I'm told that's practically and eternity.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:49 PM (ZLI7S)

360 Yo PFC Vindman.... How does that Demoncrat dick taste ?????? When you are no longer needed or relevant you will be sent to the trash heap with the rest of the scum....

Posted by: James at November 18, 2019 05:49 PM (qM84C)

361 If it's him, Clint has some trash talk directed at the Dems on his twatters, saw it somewhere. Interesting.


NGU, as I said yesterday, before new settlement policy announced, we should come down very hard on the EU over their Israeli crap. After Brexit, they won't be in much of a position to fight us, they probably aren't even right now. Do, it Don, add this to the agenda.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 05:49 PM (QDnY+)

362 good...there's a link on insty that trump is not going to accept FDA's flavored vape ban.

which is good because a lot of weirdos love that stuff and are pissed about losing their watermelon cinammon vape flavors...all because someone inhaled chinese vitamin E vapes

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:50 PM (FEQY4)

363 Congress ratifies treaties and Congress confers officer status.

What the castrati fail to grasp is the executive can walk away from a treaty...under its terms... and fire an officer. Five Star General McArthur learned that the hard way. Then he lost his bid to become a Presidential nominee and faded away.

The guy was a perfumed prince.

Posted by: torabora at November 18, 2019 05:50 PM (umhUb)

364 325 The Fresno shooting appears to be a Hmong family dispute ... the one name given was a Hmong singer ...



Posted by: illiniwek at November 18, 2019 05:42 PM (Cus5s)

Gang related is my guess. The Hmong and Hispanic gangs are going at it.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 05:50 PM (NgKpN)

365 What was the outcome of Trump at the hospital today?
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 18, 2019 05:47 PM (JcXHH)


It was Saturday and CNN has a doc on saying it was highly unusual and he is on death's doorstep

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 18, 2019 05:50 PM (cEsBM)

366 365 What was the outcome of Trump at the hospital today?

==

squawk 25th amendment!

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:52 PM (FEQY4)

367 What was the outcome of Trump at the hospital today?

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 18, 2019 05:47 PM (JcXHH)
.........

A lot of nurse mish got grabbed.

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 05:52 PM (v0R5T)

368 I'm guessing Trump's doc ordered several of his testicles be removed, as he was concerned about the extremely high t-levels.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2019 05:52 PM (fUqBx)

369 Holiday table talk will be Democrat shit show and Deep State coup. Let the indictments begin!
#twoweeksgoddamnitanditreallyistwoweeksthistimehahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: monkey at November 18, 2019 05:53 PM (CLteG)

370 I'm guessing Trump's doc ordered several of his testicles be removed, as he was concerned about the extremely high t-levels.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2019 05:52 PM (fUqBx)


I guess that means he's of the George Washington "1000 dick" breed.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:53 PM (Zz0t1)

371 The Wal Mart shooting of today:

A white man and a white woman were shot inside a car, and another white man was killed outside of the car, according to a Duncan police Facebook post.

--

I'll give you three guesses as to why it's a national news story.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - You don't stop lawlessness by obeying the law but by enforcing it at November 18, 2019 05:22 PM (WZv3r)


Was the car white too?

Just checking.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 05:53 PM (slRS9)

372 The Fresno shooting appears to be a Hmong family dispute ... the one name given was a Hmong singer ...

-
They were attending a football watching party so they're pretty Americanized.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2019 05:53 PM (+y/Ru)

373 Negotiate when you can. Compromise when you have to.

Never deny the truth.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 18, 2019 05:54 PM (HaL55)

374 It was Saturday and CNN has a doc on saying it was highly unusual and he is on death's doorstep

Yeah, it's a sign of a terminal illness when you have an annual physical three months early, ahead of holiday season and your reelection campaign.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:54 PM (I2/tG)

375 359 >>Just in time for the Holidays.....when no one will be paying attention.

Do you know how long a gap there is between December 11 and Christmas?

Two weeks. I'm told that's practically and eternity.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:49 PM (ZLI7S)

Won't we be right back in the middle of a spending battle about then?

They are about to pass a 1 month continuing resolution.... again.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 05:54 PM (NgKpN)

376 Be nice if the IG report would come out before the impeachment... Not that I hold out much hope for real justice

Posted by: It's me donna at November 18, 2019 05:54 PM (6XlcD)

377 Was the car white too?

Just checking.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 05:53 PM (slRS9)


It was red. They ARE in Oklahoma, so.....

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:54 PM (Zz0t1)

378 Seems like ignoring the CinC and violating rules regarding chain of command are pretty serious crimes. I've seen other soldiers relieved for far less serious infractions.
Posted by: Drc at November 18, 2019 05:28 PM (vbaSG)


Just one more advantage of being a #NeverTrumper.


Never having to say you're sorry.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 18, 2019 05:55 PM (sy5kK)

379 And the margins get blown.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2019 05:55 PM (XkxK0)

380 Am I the only one who reads "Hmong singer" and immediately thinks of Yoko Ono?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 18, 2019 05:56 PM (sWM8x)

381 It was Saturday and CNN has a doc on saying it was highly unusual and he is on death's doorstep

Yeah, it's a sign of a terminal illness when you have an annual physical three months early, ahead of holiday season and your reelection campaign.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:54 PM (I2/tG)


But the Notorious RBG is no longer training for a triathlon because other competitors complained that she was a ringer.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 05:56 PM (slRS9)

382 It was Saturday and CNN has a doc on saying it was highly unusual and he is on death's doorstep

-
Or possibly transforming into a werewolf.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 18, 2019 05:56 PM (+y/Ru)

383 Never deny the truth.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him


My dad: "Take your beating when you're wrong, never ever back down when you're right."

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 18, 2019 05:56 PM (LOq4H)

384 And the margins get blown.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2019 05:55 PM (XkxK0)


It makes for a good day......*puffs on cigarette

Posted by: The Margins at November 18, 2019 05:56 PM (Zz0t1)

385 But the Notorious RBG is no longer training for a triathlon because other competitors complained that she was a ringer


I see she is back... Unfortunately.

Posted by: It's me donna at November 18, 2019 05:56 PM (6XlcD)

386
I see she is back... Unfortunately.
Posted by: It's me donna at November 18, 2019 05:56 PM (6XlcD)

--------

Fuckin' revenant, this one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2019 05:57 PM (fUqBx)

387 James Comey Did Kill Himself.

Posted by: Trying Out Future Memes at November 18, 2019 05:57 PM (oVJmc)

388 Negotiate when you can. Compromise when you have to.

I was flying out of Novosibirsk, on my way back to the US, and a Russian cop took me to the airport police station and announced, in a state of high dudgeon, that I had violated all sorts of visa regulations during my stay (I hadn't, of course).

I let him rant, and when he was finished, I simply said in Russian: "How much?"

I.e., cut the crap and just tell me how much I have to pay to get out of this police station.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 05:57 PM (I2/tG)

389 Joy Behar says one of the reasons Bootyjuice is doing so well is because "he's in a very traditional marriage."

Traditionally what?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2019 05:57 PM (WI7YS)

390 Someone left some Oreos in the Barrel

Posted by: monkey at November 18, 2019 05:57 PM (CLteG)

391 377 Was the car white too?

Just checking.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 05:53 PM (slRS9)

It was red. They ARE in Oklahoma, so.....
Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:54 PM (Zz0t1)


The MSM doesn't seem to realize that by assiduously reporting the race of criminals if they're white, then by difference if they DON'T report the race, everyone - including liberals - just assumes the criminals were black (or maybe Hispanic).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 05:58 PM (slRS9)

392 389 Joy Behar says one of the reasons Bootyjuice is doing so well is because "he's in a very traditional marriage."

Traditionally what?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2019 05:57 PM (WI7YS)


Traditionally perverted.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 05:58 PM (slRS9)

393 The MSM doesn't seem to realize that by assiduously reporting the race of criminals if they're white, then by difference if they DON'T report the race, everyone - including liberals - just assumes the criminals were black (or maybe Hispanic).
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 05:58 PM (slRS9)


Well, they're stupid, so......

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:59 PM (Zz0t1)

394 @275
That is hysterical, December 11th is pretty much the last day congress will be in session.

They won't be back in session until early January.

Heck of a job Senator 2nd Trombone, heckuva job.

This is bullshit.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 18, 2019 05:59 PM (43qa7)

395 It makes for a good day......*puffs on cigarette
Posted by: The Margins


*snort

Posted by: rickb223 at November 18, 2019 05:59 PM (XkxK0)

396 Fake conservative Kept Woman Matt Lewis trolls conservatives again, because you know he's really super-conservative

The soi-based hermaphrodite (willfully?) ignores the fact that conservatives don't make "heroes" out of politicians.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 05:59 PM (1XNk8)

397
Traditionally what?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2019 05:57 PM (WI7YS)


Surprise anal.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:59 PM (Zz0t1)

398 "They were attending a football watching party so they're pretty Americanized."posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

except for the "4 dead six wounded" culture they brought with them, they have not left that behind yet. There have been multiple cases around the country over the years. But sure, "some are good people" same as we get with open borders with Mexico.


When there are strong cultural problems, we should not be an international halfway house. But "whitey must be punished, we cause all the world's problems" ... is the leftist meme.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 18, 2019 06:00 PM (Cus5s)

399 It was Saturday and CNN has a doc on saying it was highly unusual and he is on death's doorstep

He's in for a sex change operation.

H8ters.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 06:00 PM (slRS9)

400 Most of the Hmong in Wisconsin have assimilated quite well, typically truck farmers for the farmers-market trade; the most prosperous ones I know grow organic & exotic Asian vegies for Madison, at enormous prices. We buy the leftovers and seconds cheap on Sunday from the old uncle (a VN irregular vet) at the local flea market, which provides him with beer and cig money.
Solid citizens, IOW, IMHO.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 18, 2019 06:00 PM (JwHjN)

401 390 Someone left some Oreos in the Barrel

Them ain't Oreos.

Posted by: The Barrel at November 18, 2019 06:00 PM (1XNk8)

402 How does Joy Behar even know what Buttigieg's marriage is like?. Maybe they have an open marriage but just like to be married to each other?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2019 06:00 PM (WI7YS)

403
Do you know how long a gap there is between December 11 and Christmas?

Two weeks. I'm told that's practically and eternity.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2019 05:49 PM (ZLI7S
*********
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
********
JS GOING SNARK

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 18, 2019 06:00 PM (BqBId)

404 Traditionally what?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2019 05:57 PM (WI7YS)

Surprise anal.
Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:59 PM (Zz0t1)


I don't think it would be a surprise at all with that crew. Something highly anticipated, more likely.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 06:01 PM (slRS9)

405 Someone left some Oreos in the Barrel

Uh, I don't think those were Oreos.

Posted by: That irredeemable Russian asset who always says... at November 18, 2019 06:01 PM (EgshT)

406 404 Traditionally what?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2019 05:57 PM (WI7YS)

Surprise anal.
Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 05:59 PM (Zz0t1)

A surprise for him would be vaginal

Posted by: It's me donna at November 18, 2019 06:01 PM (6XlcD)

407 Prepare for Schadenboner deflation WARNING! Schadenboner deflation is imminent.

Posted by: monkey at November 18, 2019 06:01 PM (CLteG)

408 I don't think it would be a surprise at all with that crew. Something highly anticipated, more likely.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 18, 2019 06:01 PM (slRS9)


Yeah....I just wanted to throw surprise anal in the thread again.

It's only a surprise when the catcher decides to switch hit.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 06:02 PM (Zz0t1)

409 Oreos in the Barrel?

To quote Socrates, "I drank what?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 18, 2019 06:02 PM (bfAee)

410 I know that this cannot be true, as Jonah (on a recent Remnant p-cast) said that to even question Vindman and his motives is beyond the pale.

I think what he said was how sad/shocking that the alt-righters would even go there.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 18, 2019 06:02 PM (xptlg)

411 394 @275
That is hysterical, December 11th is pretty much the last day congress will be in session.

They won't be back in session until early January.

Heck of a job Senator 2nd Trombone, heckuva job.

This is bullshit.
Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 18, 2019 05:59 PM (43qa7)

They are about to pass a 1 month extension for spending. Which means it will expire the week before Christmas.

I have no idea WHAT they are thinking.

Unless it is to overload us with bullshit at the Holiday season, so they can pass a crap tastic spending bill with lots of Earmarks in it for both sides, while we are watching Impeachment and the IG report stuff.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 06:03 PM (NgKpN)

412 Prepare for Schadenboner deflation

Steiner will come.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 06:03 PM (I2/tG)

413
Steiner will come.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 18, 2019 06:03 PM (I2/tG)


Charlie Steiner from ESPN?

No one wants to see that.......

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 06:04 PM (Zz0t1)

414 Had another plumbing leak today, wife called and at least turned off the pump. A PVC connection cracked probably from Saturday morning jerking it around. Had all the parts but blew 1 glue joint, but Flex Seal took care of it.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2019 06:06 PM (ZCEU2)

415 when potus omb asked for accounting on monies spent (including ukraine military aid) it freaked them out.

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 18, 2019 06:06 PM (dnjy6)

416 414 Had another plumbing leak today, wife called and at least turned off the pump. A PVC connection cracked probably from Saturday morning jerking it around. Had all the parts but blew 1 glue joint, but Flex Seal took care of it.

Is this a metaphor?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 18, 2019 06:06 PM (6XlcD)

417 probably from Saturday morning jerking it around. 


...


Text me!

Posted by: Buttgig at November 18, 2019 06:07 PM (Q5eBq)

418 Unless it is to overload us with bullshit at the Holiday season, so they can pass a crap tastic spending bill with lots of Earmarks in it for both sides, while we are watching Impeachment and the IG report stuff.
Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting at November 18, 2019 06:03 PM (NgKpN)

But Nothing Like That has Ever Happened Before!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2019 06:07 PM (Kpl3J)

419
I hope he shows up in the FULL SGT.PEPPER regalia....

Oooh bloody Ohh Bladaa in a yellow submarine....


gotta liven up these chicken coups........where do they get those dweebs in the background of the witnesses.
..and exactly why are they there as annoying wallpaper
grimacing,talking,chewing gun and farting..ex Hollywood "crowd scene extras" WTF.

Posted by: saf at November 18, 2019 06:07 PM (5IHGB)

420 >>probably from Saturday morning jerking it around.


I hear you. Inconvenient. But it's when the best Cartoons are on.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2019 06:08 PM (0/eGj)

421 I saw the Doors open.

Posted by: Kazi at November 18, 2019 06:08 PM (0x00j)

422
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 18, 2019 06:08 PM (KCxzN)

423 Most of the Hmong in Wisconsin have assimilated quite well . . .

That's heartening to hear. Because when I was growing up there in the late 80s, they were a fucking mess. A do-gooder liberal teacher of mine in high school had a Hmong cultural rep in to learn us intolerant savages of the joys of their traditional arranged teen marriages.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2019 06:08 PM (H5knJ)

424 349 I wonder how common open dressing rooms are, there was a men's department store I used to go to that had a single room that was 30 x 10 or so where you tried on your clothes all in theopen , strangly they closed down.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 05:46 PM (FEQY4)

"How comes your dressing room is all full'a mannequins and folded clothes and other customers and what-not?"

"Please put your pants back on, sir."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 18, 2019 06:09 PM (Ct55T)

425 ignore the impeachment (inquiry) circus and drop the IG report and start sending people to jail. What the fuck. we don't need schiff's permission to protect our interests. Impeach or not, the left needs to feel our steel or else we'll all be John Doe'd to death

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 06:09 PM (FEQY4)

426 ..yeah chew on a gun ya gummy bears.

Posted by: saf at November 18, 2019 06:09 PM (5IHGB)

427 414
Hoooo Doggie!

Posted by: Phil Swift at November 18, 2019 06:09 PM (v0R5T)

428 I saw The Shoes open for The Shirts.

There were no Pants on the bill.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 18, 2019 06:09 PM (1XNk8)

429 Man I wonder what Ace is working on. Must be a movie review. This thread's been up a long time.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2019 06:10 PM (fUqBx)

430 >>Had another plumbing leak today,
...
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2019 06:06 PM (ZCEU2)

Things always go bad in sets of 3, in my world.

Posted by: My life is insanity at November 18, 2019 06:11 PM (6NTwP)

431


Aren't we overdue for another fake conservative in the media to tell us he's leaving the Republican party?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 06:11 PM (oJjzX)

432 I saw Total Bullshit open for The Indictments. It was quite a show.

Posted by: Galil at November 18, 2019 06:11 PM (Pzzpr)

433 How does Joy Behar even know what Buttigieg's marriage is like?.
.......

It's gotta be better than hers.

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 06:12 PM (v0R5T)

434 414
Hoooo Doggie!
Posted by: Phil Swift at November 18, 2019 06:09 PM (v0R5T)


I sawed your YARD in half!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 06:12 PM (Zz0t1)

435 Aren't we overdue for another fake conservative in the media to tell us he's leaving the Republican party?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 06:11 PM (oJjzX)

Hell, I've been wishing that Trump would say that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 18, 2019 06:12 PM (Ct55T)

436 433 How does Joy Behar even know what Buttigieg's marriage is like?.
.......

It's gotta be better than hers.
Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 06:12 PM (v0R5T)

Probably a lot less gay sex, at any rate.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 18, 2019 06:13 PM (Ct55T)

437 "Most of the Hmong in Wisconsin have assimilated quite well, typically truck farmers for the farmers-market trade"

idk much directly ... did some business with some Vietnamese in New Orleans area ... nice enough as far as I knew. But I recall one woman pulled out a big roll of cash to pay me .. and the community overall may appear fine, but hard to tell where their allegiance lies.


I'd heard of the Vietnamese cheating a lot on shrimping ... and firing shots at others from the boats ... foreigners that come and form their own enclaves, continue speaking their own language ... don't really enrich us, often much more inclined to be gray or black market. Diversity is not our strength.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 18, 2019 06:13 PM (Cus5s)

438

I sense Ace is aboot to hatch a nood....

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 06:13 PM (oJjzX)

439 Report: Armed Citizen Stopped Oklahoma Walmart Shooter

Posted by: Galil at November 18, 2019 06:13 PM (Pzzpr)

440 I saw Buttigieg's Marriage open for Emotional Britfag at Trees in '98.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 06:13 PM (Zz0t1)

441 I'm only posting because every time I do I get willowed and we get a new thread...

Posted by: Kazi at November 18, 2019 06:14 PM (0x00j)

442 I sense Ace is aboot to hatch a nood....
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 06:13 PM (oJjzX)


Did Willow post?

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 06:14 PM (Zz0t1)

443 FIRST!!!

Posted by: monkey at November 18, 2019 06:14 PM (CLteG)

444 I'd heard of the Vietnamese cheating a lot on shrimping ... and firing shots at others from the boats ... foreigners that come and form their own enclaves, continue speaking their own language ... don't really enrich us, often much more inclined to be gray or black market. Diversity is not our strength.

======

they apparently took over chicken farming in delaware and are shit at it...as in the chicken shit is not being dealt with properly, nor are the chickens being treated humanely.

but whatever, america is just this open air economic zone. not the people who lived here or their disgusting beliefs.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 18, 2019 06:14 PM (FEQY4)

445 Report: Armed Citizen Stopped Oklahoma Walmart Shooter
Posted by: Galil at November 18, 2019 06:13 PM (Pzzpr)


He drew his weapon and approached the shooter and the shooter shot himself.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 06:15 PM (Zz0t1)

446 Just looked and nothing new

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2019 06:15 PM (ZCEU2)

447 445 Report: Armed Citizen Stopped Oklahoma Walmart Shooter
Posted by: Galil at November 18, 2019 06:13 PM (Pzzpr)

He drew his weapon and approached the shooter and the shooter shot himself.
Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 06:15 PM (Zz0t1)

Ah, "indirect fire".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 18, 2019 06:15 PM (Ct55T)

448 Iran festivities continue, reports of 2OO KIA and some splintering in the regime security forces. Pompeo b-slapping them on various/usual matters.


Iran's far-flung mischief is under great pressure right now. No prospect of relief. And we oughta get the remaining sanctions waivers ended pronto, if only to maintain the mood among the worthless rest of the world.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 18, 2019 06:15 PM (QDnY+)

449 >>Had another plumbing leak today,
...
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2019 06:06 PM (ZCEU2)
........

I had a toilet seat hinge break.
Also went to the landfill and recycle center.

Hey Ace! Might be time for a new post?

Posted by: wth at November 18, 2019 06:15 PM (v0R5T)

450

Give it another minute....

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 06:16 PM (oJjzX)

451 Things always go bad in sets of 3, in my world


Need new roof, garage door, plumbing has been leaking. At least last one was under the brick pavers in patio and not inside the house. So the plumber will be fixing that on black friday.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 18, 2019 06:17 PM (9s6N2)

452 Here, I'll post. That will immanentize a new thread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 18, 2019 06:17 PM (Dc2NZ)

453

Van Morrison vs Jim Morrison?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 06:17 PM (oJjzX)

454 I wonder how much traffic is being generated at mu.nu with everyone refreshing the main page every 3 seconds.

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 06:17 PM (Zz0t1)

455 See???

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 18, 2019 06:17 PM (Dc2NZ)

456 Van Morrison > Jim Morrison

Posted by: Sponge at November 18, 2019 06:18 PM (Zz0t1)

457


BOOM GOES NOOOD

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at November 18, 2019 06:18 PM (oJjzX)

458
nood

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 18, 2019 06:18 PM (KCxzN)

459 455 See???
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 18, 2019 06:17 PM (Dc2NZ)

You're like the Babe Ruth of getting willowed.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 18, 2019 06:18 PM (Ct55T)

460 Nood. Bucktoothed fancy folk.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2019 06:18 PM (H5knJ)

461
Hail, Eris

it worked

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 18, 2019 06:19 PM (KCxzN)

462 You're like the Babe Ruth of getting willowed.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 18, 2019 06:18 PM (Ct55T)
----
*points to new thread across the field*
*hits home run*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 18, 2019 06:19 PM (Dc2NZ)

463 116 > I get civil servants basically have a blank check

Maybe we need to go back to the old-school "spoils" system, where all the civil servants got fired and replaced every time a different party assumed power.

While it had its problems, it did have the advantage that these shitstains didn't get to stay in there consolidating their power for decades.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2019 05:07 PM (oQp6r)

and HERE IS THE SOLUTION.

or CW2.

Because the government at the federal level is completely corrupt.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 18, 2019 06:20 PM (sy5kK)

464 tablet impeachment sign in

Posted by: andycanuck at November 18, 2019 07:09 PM (Dh1wo)

465 Is it Tom or Tim?

Posted by: Colonel Haiku at November 18, 2019 08:35 PM (Y8JQ4)

466 >>>295 think he was going to change it to more closely align with Ciaramella's complaint.

he was repeatedly asked today if he had ever accessed unauthorized computers, etc...to which he replied, "no"

it is my hope that there is evidence to proove that he did and will be found to have perjured himself.

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 19, 2019 05:32 PM (dnjy6)

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They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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