The Occasional Fishing, Hunting, Rugged Outdoors Thread, Prometheus Edition [Bandersnatch]

No, not that Prometheus, that’s the obsession of another deranged and deluded occasional Saturday evening host who is deranged and delusional. I’m talking about fire. We’re going to sit around this campfire and talk about campfires. And fishing and hunting and camping and such.
Welcome Piscators and Piscatrixes, Nimrods and Nimrettes, and pyromaniacs of all genders to the current installment of the occasional fishing and hunting and other wholesome outdoorsness thread.

This started a few weeks ago when I was having beers with a guy at a place that had comfy benches and a fire pit out back. The proprietor was just throwing lumber in the pit and dousing it with lighter fluid – which is morally and aesthetically wrong – but it was a fire on a Fall afternoon and fires are conducive to talking. So we talked about fires and their proper construction and maintenance. “How many pieces of newspaper do you use for tinder?”. “Well, assuming we’re using matches you are one-match-only, right?”. “One match? One point of ignition”. So I had met a fellow fanatic and we agreed that something as important as fire was worth arguing about and maybe even a post.

Staring into a fire is an ancient human experience. I can’t help but think that the feelings and conversations evoked by a campfire are the same as they’ve always been. A young fire dances and licks. The mature fire roars in the night. The end of the night fire settles in to coals and glowing and quiet rumination. You stare at a fire and you think. If there are other people around the fire you might talk. The conversation will be different from that at a clean well-lighted place.

Beowulf, I’m certain, was recited around camp fires.

Now, it’s possible for a passion to become self-destructive, especially in the hands of a gifted self-destructor. I was on my way to a camping trip with a girlfriend. This was an extraordinarily attractive woman with a deep hold on my psyche, and she’s also a Girl Scout den mother and camping afficionado. She got to the campsite first and texted me pictures of a gin and tonic, an exposed breast, and the fire she had built, all waiting for me. This is a near perfect set of expectations. And when I got there I was so fussy and controlling about poking the fire that she nearly broke up with me right then. I’m an idiot.

I would like a ruling on this. Is this cheating? Fire is made in three stages: tinder, kindling, and fuel. You can’t light fuel (the log) directly, each stage has a low ignition point and burns up to a higher temperature. There are chemical log products which can be lit with a match, but these are haram. It is known. This fatwood claims to be all natural, it is just pine kindling with a ridiculous amount of sap in it so that it will match light. I think I’ll start keeping some in the truck and in a backpack for emergencies, but it still seems somehow wrong.

I’m heating my lair entirely with wood this season and I’m enjoying the ritual of coming home and making the fire first, before I log on and see what you yobbos are up to.

The other kind of fire at camp is the controlled cooking fire. I used to use propane cylinders and a Coleman stove, but I was introduced to the white gas Whisperlite stoves by the Mad Croatian. I learned much from him, like always put the overhead tarp up first and the importance of the J-stroke, but the Whisperlite might be the best. There was a thread here years ago where some people were saying that there were better options. I don’t remember what they were supposed to be and I hope everyone who said so has been banned.

This is still a fishing thread. That is a brown trout (salmo trutta) and a rainbow trout (oncorhynchus mykiss).

I have asked for camp fire pictures and the only related entry was a camping picture from the estimable Nurse Ratched. That means she’s better than you.

It’s my boys, my Goddaughter, her parents and another friend. We’ve camped together since the adults were in high school. We first took the kids backpacking when they were babes and had to be carried. Deception Pass is one of our favorite car camping spots. On that particular trip, it was springtime and we saw three or four whales swimming by. It was amazing.

This comes from a lurker named JJ (not our JJ with the Godfather quotes).

Long time lurker, just wanted to share a picture of my son(age 14) with his first deer. Looking forward to this season. I have never commented on the site but try to check at least couple times a day. Loved the pic of the young lady with her deer and wanted to share my son's progression.

Now, this has to be the most shameful non-submission in fish thread history. It’s from fluffy.

One of our infamous members (Soothsayer) announced that he had never seen a porcupine in the flesh. I would like the offer some photos and narrative to share with the Horde on the fishing/outdoors thread.
If you are interested, I can write up the occasion when I was nearly trampled by a stampede of love crazed male porkies.

That is not a picture of a love crazed porcupine trampling fluffy. It’s a picture I took of a porcupine because it was so interesting to see one that was not splatterated on a roadside. I’m using it here because despite a couple of messages back and forth, fluffy did not write up this encounter. Shame on you, fluffy!

And with that we move on to the raison d’etre of this here HQ, the comments section. Brickbats, praise, and fish brag pics are welcome at aoshqfish at sign gmail thing.

Posted by: CBD at 09:00 PM

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1 I see Bigfoot loping across the tree line in the top pic.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2019 09:01 PM (XVuno)

2 Porcupines are just a bunch of pricks.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:02 PM (T6t7i)

3 Porcupines in the flesh is actually a Pr0nhub category.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2019 09:03 PM (XVuno)

4 Best fishing movies?

Mine is Captains Courageous .

Interesting though that fishing movies are few and far between. Probably no more than a dozen.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:03 PM (2DOZq)

5 Well! There we are!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2019 09:03 PM (438dO)

6 Beer and fire.

Mmm mmm good.

Posted by: jsg at November 16, 2019 09:04 PM (Wi57B)

7 Post one time today, get willowed. yeesh.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2019 09:04 PM (r+sAi)

8 That deer who got whacked by the lurker's son looks like he's not amused.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2019 09:05 PM (XVuno)

9 Carpe Carp!

Posted by: pig what speaks latin at November 16, 2019 09:05 PM (Tnijr)

10 No, not that Prometheus, that's the obsession of another deranged and deluded occasional Saturday evening host who is deranged and delusional

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Hey...wait a second...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at November 16, 2019 09:06 PM (zZbCU)

11 Nice

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 16, 2019 09:07 PM (cqNba)

12 Question for the Horde: which style of tent works best for urban camping like they have in the east side of downtown L.A.?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2019 09:07 PM (XVuno)

13 I don't fish, I don't hunt and I certainly don't camp.

My idea of roughing it is domestic champagne in the concierge suite.

I do drink, but I'm in a mood right now where I should not.

I'll just sit here and smoke a virtual cigar while the rest of you talk.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 16, 2019 09:08 PM (Ki5SV)

14 FIRE BAD!

Posted by: frankenstein at November 16, 2019 09:08 PM (H5knJ)

15 12
Question for the Horde: which style of tent works best for urban camping like they have in the east side of downtown L.A.?

A penitent.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:08 PM (T6t7i)

16 Fisssshes.. yesss my preciousssss!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2019 09:08 PM (438dO)

17 Man, nothing like fresh trout on camp fire skillet. Yuuuummm.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2019 09:09 PM (r+sAi)

18 I haven't been fish camping in three decades. Used to go to Toledo Bend ( NE Texas NW LA) quite often. I do miss roughing it in the woods.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:09 PM (2DOZq)

19 4 Best fishing movies?

Mine is Captains Courageous .

Interesting though that fishing movies are few and far between. Probably no more than a dozen.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:03 PM (2DOZq)

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Grumpy Old Men / Grumpier Old Men

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 16, 2019 09:09 PM (CAJOC)

20 FIRE BAD!
Posted by: frankenstein at November 16, 2019 09:08 PM (H5knJ)

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Where are you going? I was going to make espresso!

Posted by: The Blind Hermit at November 16, 2019 09:09 PM (XVuno)

21 16
Fisssshes.. yesss my preciousssss!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

You're being pescy.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:09 PM (T6t7i)

22 I can start a fire with not much more than found kindling and material. A little dry kindling is necessary to get started though. I did learn some things in Boy Scouts, and no, no homo.

Posted by: freaked at November 16, 2019 09:10 PM (Tnijr)

23 Willowed

In a couple of hours the entire media will be blaming Trump for the re-election of a Dem governor.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

Unfortunately this...

This was always going to be a tough one for Trump to stick his nose into -

Fighters don't win them all. Trump is showing the rest of the country, and the whiny Repubs what must be done, even if you don't win.

GOPe would never have tried, and then spent overtime with multiple excuses.

That is the difference I have seen in the last 3 years.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 16, 2019 09:01 PM (sy5kK)

I agree. Trump is setting new standards of walking into the lion's den instead of gutlessly raising the white flag and yammering some stupidity about it not being a smart expenditure of resources. And those stupid turds wonder why their "minority outreach" is just another act in Failure Theater.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 16, 2019 09:10 PM (y7DUB)

24 He said log.

Posted by: Beavis and Butt-Head at November 16, 2019 09:10 PM (Okmx3)

25 Dude - this ain't Boy Scouts. Throw some gas on some wood and light it. The art of fire making once learned, is sufficient.

Posted by: Chouinard at November 16, 2019 09:10 PM (ua1m6)

26 "which style of tent works best for urban camping like they have in the east side of downtown L.A.?"

Cardboard

Posted by: freaked at November 16, 2019 09:10 PM (Tnijr)

27 He got that deer with one of those EBR's with the thing that goes up and the mag that holds 100 clips of 5.56/.308/20mm white phosphorous shells. Damn thing still look raw. Need to throw it back on the fire a bit.

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2019 09:11 PM (UUkQp)

28

Whisperlite is an excellent stove, usually previously replaced in our rucks globally with the XGK global multifuel.

Now that there is a Whisperlite International multifuel, karmic unity may have been achieved.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 16, 2019 09:11 PM (nWzqh)

29 22 I can start a fire with not much more than found kindling and material.

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You should be proud. You're as smart as a Neanderthal.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2019 09:12 PM (XVuno)

30 'You should be proud. You're as smart as a Neanderthal'

Aw shucks thanks.

Posted by: freaked at November 16, 2019 09:13 PM (Tnijr)

31 A match? Seriously? If you don't make your fire with a bow drill, (and the drill must rely on gut from a panther you killed yourself), well, you aren't a man.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:13 PM (T6t7i)

32 I've never started a fire by friction. I think I need to be in a situation where I had no choice because it takes patience.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:13 PM (2DOZq)

33 We camped a lot when the kids were little.. it's all we could afford.
2.5 hour drive north of Chicago is a great Wisconsin campground - Koehler-Andre State Park..
The campsites are under old pines and the ground is strewn with pine needles that are like a soft mattress to sleep on. Many fun times there. Acoustic guitar drew many other campers to our campfire with tales from around the country and around the world! And some really good jams!

And near Sheboygan! Ya hey! love da brats!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2019 09:13 PM (438dO)

34
Interesting though that fishing movies are few and far between. Probably no more than a dozen.
Posted by: Easy Andy

Man's Favorite Sport?

imdb.com/title/tt0058324

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (aKsyK)

35 Speaking of Scouts
Our Church is moving away from the Scouts and to the knights of Saint George A Catholic version of the Boy Scouts

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (dKiJG)

36 I love animals and mostly leave them alone on my property

except for Porcupines .
nail their asses every time I get a chance, before they can quill my dogs

They used to climb up in my crab apples and chew off limbs

I would wait on my Honda formeman with a GNT and a pitchfork. eventually they would climb down

then boom

sometimes I get the win 94 carbine out but I prefer the pitchfork

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (rpxSz)

37 I have a thing in my truck at all times that lets me shave magnesium off it and make sparks with the spark thingie. I have made fire without a match to impress someone.

There was a blizzard in '78 in Boston that stranded people on the highway for many days. I have no memory of that. I was not in Boston at the time. But the fact of it has made me paranoid about being trapped without fire so I have the ability to make fire and boil water everywhere I go.

Some day this will come in useful.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (gd9RK)

38 30 'You should be proud. You're as smart as a Neanderthal'

Aw shucks thanks.
Posted by: freaked at November 16, 2019 09:13 PM (Tnijr)

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MIght I recommend Geico insurance?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (CAJOC)

39 32 I've never started a fire by friction. I think I need to be in a situation where I had no choice because it takes patience.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:13 PM (2DOZq)

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You can't start a fire
You can't start a fire without a spark.

Posted by: B. Springsteen at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (XVuno)

40 Love the MSR whisperlite stove! So much easier and lighter on backpack trips! Also Deception Pass is a beautiful area, likely some morons up there.

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at November 16, 2019 09:15 PM (KDTOE)

41 You can't start a fire without a spark.

A spork, however, is next to useless for starting fires.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:15 PM (T6t7i)

42 23.

Is it that bleak?

I thought it looked good for republicans ?

Posted by: McCallister at November 16, 2019 09:16 PM (OnRDz)

43 Fire making is made in one step.. Pile shit in the fire pit, throw lighter fluid on it, and throw a match in.. This ain't Naked And Afraid!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2019 09:16 PM (438dO)

44 I've got one of those flint and steel things but let me tell you it ain't easy to start a fire with one of those. If it was wet and cold out and you didn't have some dryer lint or something I reckon you'd freeze to death.

Posted by: freaked at November 16, 2019 09:16 PM (Tnijr)

45 Grumpy old Men is damn funny, Jack Lemons Dad in the movie has the best lines

Taking the Skin boat to Tuna town

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 16, 2019 09:17 PM (dKiJG)

46 Baylor is rolling.

Oh, and damn, they have some cute co-eds.

Posted by: Beavis and Butt-Head at November 16, 2019 09:17 PM (Okmx3)

47 32 I've never started a fire by friction.

I'm sorry to hear that

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 09:17 PM (rpxSz)

48 43 Fire making is made in one step.. Pile shit in the fire pit, throw lighter fluid on it, and throw a match in.. This ain't Naked And Afraid!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2019 09:16 PM (438dO)

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Ogg say, how fluid start fire?

Posted by: Ogg at November 16, 2019 09:17 PM (XVuno)

49

Best fishing movie is any of 'em with depth charges.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 16, 2019 09:17 PM (nWzqh)

50
Oh, and damn, they have some cute co-eds.
And some of them can read.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:17 PM (T6t7i)

51 I remember hiking in Estes Park, Co., and coming upon a porcupine in the middle of the trail. He wasn't scared of us; clearly he knew that he didn't need to be. He stood his ground, just turned his back to us and made some snarly noises. We wanted some porcupine quills so one of us took a stick and reached out to towards him - now that was a surprise! Never realized that tail would be so muscular (once you learn about it, it's obvious) and with his tail that porky slapped the stick right out of his hand. After that none of us fooled with him any more, if he wanted to own that spot on the trail, well then he damn well owned it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 09:17 PM (V2Yro)

52 I use the neighbors newspapers for my primary fuel.

Posted by: jsg at November 16, 2019 09:18 PM (Wi57B)

53 I don't smoke but I do carry lighters in my Jeep and have a few dozen in my prep cache.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:18 PM (2DOZq)

54 After that none of us fooled with him any more, if he wanted to own that spot on the trail, well then he damn well owned it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 09:17 PM (V2Yro)

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And you guys have the nerve to call yourselves simians.

Posted by: A Porcupine at November 16, 2019 09:19 PM (XVuno)

55 My husband and I have been on 2 4-5 day backpacking trips. Everything is carried on our backs so everything must be ultralight. He's a good fire starter and managed a fire every night the last trip, even when it was damp, with nothing but a small bic lighter. We use MSR pocket rocket camp stoves and the fuel that goes with.
The one thing I hate about tent camping is the condensation that builds up inside when it's cold outside.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 16, 2019 09:19 PM (UUBmN)

56
I love animals and mostly leave them alone on my property

except for Porcupines .

nail their asses every time I get a chance, before they can quill my dogs

Posted by: REDACTED
We had a family of skunks take residence under our front porch (concrete).
One night, I turned on the back flood lights and there they were.. frozen looking at the light.. up in a tree. The whole family!
I quickly went and barricaded the hole under the front porch and they found someplace new after that!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2019 09:19 PM (438dO)

57 If you don't like fatwood (too effin pricey for me), try pieces of the paraffin - coated corrugated cardboard used for some shipping boxes for vegetables ... or is that even more haram ?

I keep a few pieces in the various cars, I would use it if needed, particularly under adverse conditions.

A few times in my life I have actually attained one-match satori, it's a great feeling, but I am foremost an engineer about it, not a purist ... if I want a fire I am gonna get one, whatever it takes.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 09:19 PM (JwHjN)

58 There was a blizzard in '78 in Boston that stranded people on the highway for many days. I have no memory of that. I was not in Boston at the time. But the fact of it has made me paranoid about being trapped without fire so I have the ability to make fire and boil water everywhere I go.

Some day this will come in useful.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (gd9RK)

My sister in law her mom was trapped on the highway and she ended up staying at some strangers house for three days because she got trapped on the highway.

It's also why I have a generator and I really wish I could get a wood-burning fireplace

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (dKiJG)

59 You should be proud. You're as smart as a Neanderthal.

Oh geez. I forgot to put this in the post. I love caveman movies. They're all bad. I love the bad ones. There has only ever been one good caveman movie.

Quest for Fire. 1982. Jean-Jaques Arnaud. Naked Rae Dawn Chong.

It's about a tribe that loses its fire and has to go out looking for it, then meets naked Rae Dawn Chong who knows how to make it. Genius. Cinematic genius.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (gd9RK)

60 4 Best fishing movies?

Mine is Captains Courageous .

Interesting though that fishing movies are few and far between. Probably no more than a dozen.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:03 PM (2DOZq)

Tucker & Dale vs. Evil

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (DTX3h)

61 I recommend a visit to Big Bone Lick. No really, it's a state park in Kentucy!

Posted by: NC Ref at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (Dxxm/)

62 2 animals in the wild that will not run from you, because they know you're the one who should be running - porcupines and skunks.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (V2Yro)

63 45 Grumpy old Men is damn funny, Jack Lemons Dad in the movie has the best lines

Taking the Skin boat to Tuna town
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 16, 2019 09:17 PM (dKiJG)

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Burgess Meredith. He ad-libbed those lines. Does the same in Grumpier Old Men. Blooper reel shows a whole slew of 'em.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (CAJOC)

64 Would Deliverance be considered a fishing movie? Kind of like Die Hard is a Christmas movie I guess.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (2DOZq)

65 A spork, however, is next to useless for starting fires.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:15 PM (T6t7i)

--One of my fav Demotivators:

https://despair.com/products/multitasking?_pos=1&_sid=af8a94e8f&_ss=r&variant=2457304387

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2019 09:21 PM (Okmx3)

66 Bandersnatch @ 37- Mrs. E and I love firestarters like the one you mentioned. We have them in every go-bag and vehicle along with survival blankets. She demands this since she was stranded between Raton and Texline in a blizzard when she was a youngster just out of kollege.

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2019 09:21 PM (UUkQp)

67 A spork, however, is next to useless for starting fires.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:15 PM (T6t7i)

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I once made a fire starter with a spork. It's pretty easy. You just need some tape and a match.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 16, 2019 09:22 PM (CAJOC)

68 You can't start a fire
You can't start a fire without a spark.
Posted by: B. Springsteen

Dude, if a fire's burning, you can't dance in the dark.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 16, 2019 09:22 PM (+y/Ru)

69 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2019 09:19 PM (438dO)

None too fond of skunks either You're luck you got them out

luckily , we don't seem to have then in abundance

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 09:22 PM (rpxSz)

70 That is so weird I was just thinking about Grumpy Old Men and the old guy's lines today.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2019 09:22 PM (r+sAi)

71 There was a blizzard in '78 in Boston that stranded people on the highway for many days. I have no memory of that. I was not in Boston at the time. But the fact of it has made me paranoid about being trapped without fire so I have the ability to make fire and boil water everywhere I go.

Some day this will come in useful.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (gd9RK)

JetBoil. Goes everywhere.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:23 PM (HALdu)

72 Chuck is taking One Eye to the Optomotrist

Posted by: jsg at November 16, 2019 09:23 PM (Wi57B)

73 Can't start a fire without a spark, right?

Posted by: friends of Bruce at November 16, 2019 09:24 PM (sy5kK)

74 Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (gd9RK)

Caveman with Barbara Bach .

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:24 PM (2DOZq)

75 Fat lighter is not cheating. Neither is a candle or a blowtorch, if you have one available.

Posted by: freaked at November 16, 2019 09:24 PM (Tnijr)

76 I've always considered it an unconventional romance.

Posted by: ned beatty at November 16, 2019 09:24 PM (H5knJ)

77 CAMPFIRE S'MORES DIP ... Line the bottom of an aluminum pie pan with Reese's peanut butter cups (the mini version, wide sides down). Add a layer of mini marshmallows. Gently heat the pan over embers (not flames) until warmed through and gooey. Scoop out with baked graham cracker sticks (Honey Maid Dippers or Scooby Doo sticks). Enjoy!

Posted by: Kathy at November 16, 2019 09:25 PM (q7uEm)

78 When I was in the Boy Scouts we spent lots of time making fires, fire pits, and fire starters.

Cotton balls with vaseline, egg containers covered in paraffin, were good home made options.

The magnesium fire starters such as BlastMatch and Fire Steel are nice, but you had better understand that they are not going to light the logs on fire.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:25 PM (HALdu)

79 But the fact of it has made me paranoid about being trapped without fire so I have the ability to make fire and boil water everywhere I go.

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This is why I prefer cold over heat. Imagine being stuck in Boston during a massive heatwave back when there was no air conditioning.

My ass would be hightailing it to Canada during the dark of night had I lived back then.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at November 16, 2019 09:26 PM (+dsLj)

80 76 I've always considered it an unconventional romance.

About man's love for his fellow man... Shakespeare was a genius!

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 16, 2019 09:26 PM (nWzqh)

81
Burgess Meredith. He ad-libbed those lines. Does the same in Grumpier Old Men. Blooper reel shows a whole slew of 'em.
Posted by: No One of Consequence

Sounds like Doctor Smith and his robot insults.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 16, 2019 09:26 PM (aKsyK)

82 When starting a good sized bonfire, stupid non morons invariably insist on dousing the pile with to much gasoline, then screw around for way to long while the gas fumes spread out, throw in a match, and the resulting explosion reeks havoc.
Smart morons know to use a mixture of 3/4 diesel fuel and 1/4 gasoline, which will gently ignite the bonfire, even if the woodpile is covered with 10" of snow.
Moron tested and approved.

Posted by: Fritzy at November 16, 2019 09:26 PM (VY+MJ)

83 Burgess Meredith. He ad-libbed those lines. Does the same in Grumpier Old Men. Blooper reel shows a whole slew of 'em.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (CAJOC)

Best part of the movie.

My Brother took me ice fishing on Lake Erie. It was damn scary being a mile or half a mile from shore. Bringing you out hearing the ice cracking.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 16, 2019 09:26 PM (dKiJG)

84 The magnesium fire starters such as BlastMatch and Fire Steel are nice, but you had better understand that they are not going to light the logs on fire.
Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:25 PM (HALdu)

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Maybe you're not getting your logs from the right place.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2019 09:27 PM (XVuno)

85 Ya know what this place needs?

A movie thread about movies about fishing.

Grumpy Old Men has fishing.

Quickly!

Someone inform TheJamesMadison that this needs doing!

Posted by: Robert at November 16, 2019 09:27 PM (v+3QR)

86 I say fatwood is fair play in starting a fire - people before electricity had the ability to make fatwood for that purpose, by soaking kindling in spare animal grease. If you're in a really wet area where the wood is damp, you really need something like that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 09:27 PM (V2Yro)

87 When starting a good sized bonfire, stupid non morons invariably insist on dousing the pile with to much gasoline, then screw around for way to long while the gas fumes spread out, throw in a match, and the resulting explosion reeks havoc.
Smart morons know to use a mixture of 3/4 diesel fuel and 1/4 gasoline, which will gently ignite the bonfire, even if the woodpile is covered with 10" of snow.
Moron tested and approved.
Posted by: Fritzy at November 16, 2019 09:26 PM (VY+MJ)

Then there is the guy that has to squirt the fluid directly into the fire.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:27 PM (HALdu)

88 Had a mama porcupine w/babies where we briefly lived 30+ years ago. They were in the willows and aspens along the creek, our 1 and 2 year olds got to pet the still soft babies.

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at November 16, 2019 09:28 PM (KDTOE)

89 Maybe you're not getting your logs from the right place.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2019 09:27 PM (XVuno)

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:28 PM (HALdu)

90 Oh geez. I forgot to put this in the post. I love caveman movies. They're all bad. I love the bad ones. There has only ever been one good caveman movie.

Quest for Fire. 1982. Jean-Jaques Arnaud. Naked Rae Dawn Chong.

It's about a tribe that loses its fire and has to go out looking for it, then meets naked Rae Dawn Chong who knows how to make it. Genius. Cinematic genius.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (gd9RK)

--Trailer Park Boys: The Best of Sam the Caveman

https://youtu.be/Ho67yleXd-Q

(I was disappointed that TPB The Animated Series lacked caveman cracks about Sam.)

"Well I hope Plan B involves you brushing your cave teeth with a log!"

P.S. Wow, Texas totally shat themselves against Iowa State.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2019 09:28 PM (Okmx3)

91 74 Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (gd9RK)

Caveman with Barbara Bach .
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:24 PM (2DOZq)

Ringo Starr, right???

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 09:28 PM (V2Yro)

92 I always wonder why everyone does not carry a lighter in their pocket everywhere they go.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:29 PM (HALdu)

93 The quick lighting charcoal briquettes best invention since sliced bread.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:30 PM (2DOZq)

94 I take it as a point of pride to never use lighter fluid. Fatwood, yes, lighter fluid, no. Gasoline is Right Out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 09:30 PM (V2Yro)

95 Jaws is the best fishing movie.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at November 16, 2019 09:30 PM (XFk3U)

96 I'll admit it. Today I was supposed to go deer hunting as I haven't used my tag for the season yet.

However I checked the weather forecast for Rangely (where I hunt) and it said that it was 5'F this morning when I'd be getting going.

Nope. I'm good here in my nice toasty house. Call me a pussy - I don't care. That'd f'in cold.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (9V81o)

97

I taught survival in Central America for quite a few years, and have started fires by pretty much every technique known. I take that back, I never used a quick start cartridge out of a KC-135 engine. But most other ways.

Have a metric shit-ton on Bic lighters and tender de jur squirreled away EVERYWHERE...

And as many other techniques in your go-to bank as possible.

Posted by: Astrolite A at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (nWzqh)

98 You have marvelous taste in mugs, Bander.

Posted by: bluebell at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (sTBcq)

99 The fire has been burning since the wheel has been turning.

Posted by: the digger that couldnt keep Christy B at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (vqIkG)

100 Hey you owe me, you fuckin' greasy cavman!

Posted by: Philadelphia Collins at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (Okmx3)

101 You know, I would like it if someone would make an easy way to boil water using your car outlets. Not for boiling water while driving but in the event that you were stuck somewhere and wanted some hot water.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (HALdu)

102 Quest for Fire. 1982. Jean-Jaques Arnaud. Naked Rae Dawn Chong.

I remember going to see that, but I don't know why.

Probably because I was in the "I'll see any movie, no matter how bad" phase at the time.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 16, 2019 09:32 PM (Ki5SV)

103 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 09:28 PM (V2Yro)

Yeah. I think that's where they met.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:32 PM (2DOZq)

104 in the late 60's and early 70's I hiked all over the Sierras by my lonesome.

sometimes for 2 or 3 weeks, then I would come in for a few days and then go back out

I would start fires and then find a nice stump to put in. They burn, like forever

Used to get some pretty mean looks from the Sierra club types. I was pretty grungy and probably scared the shit out of them

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2019 09:32 PM (rpxSz)

105 And now that I skimmed the thread I see that fishing movies and Grumpy Old Men has already been suggested.

This is why I love the Horde. We're all cut from the same nerdy cloth.

Posted by: Robert at November 16, 2019 09:32 PM (v+3QR)

106 logprof, if you are still here - I just saw your comment in the previous thread that you were in the hospital for seven weeks. I'm so sorry to hear that, and so glad that you are back with us. I hope you are healing and getting better every day. I'll keep you in my prayers. I have a whole Moron section.

Posted by: bluebell at November 16, 2019 09:32 PM (sTBcq)

107 Ya know what this place needs?

A movie thread about movies about fishing.

Grumpy Old Men has fishing.

Quickly!

Someone inform TheJamesMadison that this needs doing!
Posted by: Robert at November 16, 2019 09:27 PM (v+3QR)

I recall that Lover Come Back has fishing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 16, 2019 09:32 PM (Ki5SV)

108 We're under the 100 post rule so I'll joint the thread and say, nice shot by long time Lurker's son!

Gut shots, which is what this looks to be from the picture, can be runners - meaning blood trailing to the kill. Not sure if that was the case here, but if so - double nice job as that can be tough!

Posted by: Boswell at November 16, 2019 09:33 PM (32YRo)

109 Every Campfire Story ends with:

"And there it was.....A HOOK"

Posted by: Miklos, who spent an early adolescent summer at Girl Scout Camp (but I'm fine) at November 16, 2019 09:33 PM (QzkSJ)

110 "37 I have a thing in my truck at all times that lets me shave magnesium off it and make sparks with the spark thingie. I have made fire without a match to impress someone.

There was a blizzard in '78 in Boston that stranded people on the highway for many days. I have no memory of that. I was not in Boston at the time. But the fact of it has made me paranoid about being trapped without fire so I have the ability to make fire and boil water everywhere I go.

Some day this will come in useful.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (gd9RK) "

I hear ya.
Happened a few times on the Interstates in Northern Indiana a few times, too - one time I just barely got through ahead of the blockage.
Ever since then I keep an array of winter survival stuff in the cars; just loaded them up a week or so ago.
Blanket, candles, cans of corned beef hash and similar food, an improvised cook set made from tin cans and coathanger wire to melt snow, axe, sand, shovel, and a half pint of cheap whiskey hidden somewhere. And like you, matches, lighters, and one of those magnesium things.
Up here it's more the idea of getting stuck on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere for a day or two before the plow gets there, but same thing really.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 09:34 PM (JwHjN)

111 No idea if it's true, but a passage in a Tim Powers novel says "in the earliest versions of the story, it was not fire that Prometheus stole from the Gods, but beer."

Posted by: Splunge at November 16, 2019 09:34 PM (dOV9E)

112 Every Campfire Story ends with:

"And there it was.....A HOOK"
Posted by: Miklos, who spent an early adolescent summer at Girl Scout Camp (but I'm fine) at November 16, 2019 09:33 PM (QzkSJ)

Which is why the girl scouts have given up going camping for hawking cookies in walmart parking lots.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:34 PM (HALdu)

113 Went backpacking with my boys a few years ago in the Olympic National Park. The rangers were encouraging folks to catch as many of the non native rainbow trout that had been stocked several years ago and were taking over. We Only had a couple of rusty hooks and some line in the bottom of a pack, but the boys caught mayflies and tied the line onto sticks and we caught, cooked and ate a lot of those tasty fishies. Roasted them over the fire, whole on a stick and squeezed lemon juice and some salt on them.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 16, 2019 09:34 PM (PkVlr)

114 Every Campfire Story ends with:

"And there it was.....A HOOK"

Posted by: Miklos,

Or "where's my golden arm?...here it IS!"

Posted by: Boswell at November 16, 2019 09:34 PM (32YRo)

115 Marilyn Monroe goes fishing:

https://tinyurl.com/u3e5k68

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 16, 2019 09:35 PM (Ki5SV)

116 93 The quick lighting charcoal briquettes best invention since sliced bread.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:30 PM (2DOZq)

Never got those to not impart a slight fuel taste to the food. Maybe they're better now, though, that was many years ago.

Posted by: Splunge at November 16, 2019 09:35 PM (dOV9E)

117 Gasoline is Right Out.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Petrol, old chap.

Posted by: Earl of Miklos at November 16, 2019 09:35 PM (QzkSJ)

118
There was a blizzard in '78 in Boston that stranded people on the highway for many days. I have no memory of that. I was not in Boston at the time. But the fact of it has made me paranoid about being trapped without fire so I have the ability to make fire and boil water everywhere I go.

Some day this will come in useful.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:14 PM (gd9RK) "

Then there is the entirely different subject of people that reside in cold climes and do not have cold weather gear in their cars. Fucking retards.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:35 PM (HALdu)

119 I wonder if "A River Runs Through It" has fishing..... eh, probably not.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2019 09:37 PM (r+sAi)

120 Tom Servo @ 86- Growing up in S.C. we learned that old pine stumps made the best fat lightered kindling. There was always one next to the woodpile. My Grannys cooked on woodstoves and heated the house with a potbellied stove, which you could cook on as well. When the potbellied stove and woodstoves were bought, the old fireplaces were bricked up except for the hole to pass the stovepipe through. Those old houses smelled so good and were so comfortable in the winter. Of course the bedrooms had no heat and we were covered with a half dozen quilts. I still have the quilt that was on my Eromero Granny's bed when she died (at age 26).

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2019 09:37 PM (UUkQp)

121 31 A match? Seriously? If you don't make your fire with a bow drill, (and the drill must rely on gut from a panther you killed yourself), well, you aren't a man.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:13 PM (T6t7i)

Actually had to learn the bow drill thing in Boy Scouts. It takes forever and sucks. Now I use those squares, I think they are paraffin and sawdust. They work great.

Posted by: Splunge at November 16, 2019 09:38 PM (dOV9E)

122 You know, I would like it if someone would make an easy way to boil water using your car outlets.
Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (HALdu)

1. Set steel wool under tinder, kindling
2. Attach jumper cables to battery terminals

The rest is left as an exercise to the reader

Posted by: hogmartin at November 16, 2019 09:38 PM (t+qrx)

123 kkkKrapperdick got ignored in Atlanta.
Had to move to a high school.

Sad, bitch.

Fro yo football somewhere else, cvnt.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 16, 2019 09:38 PM (Iuv2P)

124 ... Quest for Fire. 1982. Jean-Jaques Arnaud. Naked Rae Dawn Chong.

It's about a tribe that loses its fire and has to go out looking for it, then meets naked Rae Dawn Chong who knows how to make it. Genius. Cinematic genius.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:20 PM (gd9RK) "

Loved that movie !

Rae Dawn Chong in that movie is also the inventor of the BJ.

YAY !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 09:38 PM (JwHjN)

125 Wasn't Jaws a fishing movie?

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2019 09:39 PM (NaiLP)

126 You know, I would like it if someone would make an easy way to boil water using your car outlets.
Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (HALdu)

1. Set steel wool under tinder, kindling
2. Attach jumper cables to battery terminals

The rest is left as an exercise to the reader
Posted by: hogmartin at November 16, 2019 09:38 PM (t+qrx)

Thanks

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:39 PM (HALdu)

127 the boys caught mayflies and tied the line onto sticks and we caught, cooked and ate a lot of those tasty fishies. Roasted them over the fire, whole on a stick and squeezed lemon juice and some salt on them.
Posted by: Nurse ratched

Young Lords of the Flies

Posted by: Miklos, who had fish for dinner at November 16, 2019 09:39 PM (QzkSJ)

128 Fishing movie? Moby Dick of course. Aye, not a fish, but it sure acts like one.

Posted by: freaked at November 16, 2019 09:39 PM (Tnijr)

129 Charcloth (easy to make) makes Flint and steel firestarting fast and easy. With charcloth and good tinder you have a flame in under a minute. Works dandy with a magnifying glass too.

Posted by: Oldradartech at November 16, 2019 09:39 PM (94fkO)

130 Live results for the race in Louisiana.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/u5urpej
I's say about a quarter of the total vote has been counted so far.

Posted by: No snuuz is good snuuz at November 16, 2019 09:40 PM (vqIkG)

131 And while I realize this is not the movie thread, my wife is watching a documentary on Clive Davis and Arista records. The parts I've been watching have been very interesting. So, if you have any interest in the music industry, it's on Netflix, and worth a watch.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 16, 2019 09:40 PM (CAJOC)

132 Anyone know where to get some strike anywhere matches?

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:40 PM (HALdu)

133 You have marvelous taste in mugs, Bander.

Posted by: bluebell

Thank you, darling. I was wondering when someone would notice that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:40 PM (gd9RK)

134 Disney was insane to hire a soyboi who was quoted as saying that "if half your audience doesn't leave the theater pissed off, you haven't done your job as a director."

-
Broke: The customer is always right.

Woke: Piss off the customer!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 16, 2019 09:41 PM (+y/Ru)

135 Well, I think I will go to bed and hope I feel better tomorrow.

Hope you all have a lovely night.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 16, 2019 09:41 PM (Ki5SV)

136 Tom Servo @ 86- Growing up in S.C. we learned that old pine stumps made the best fat lightered kindling.

Posted by: Eromero

Ohh, where in SC? - I grew up as a boy in Beaufort, SC before moving elsewhere - I has a true Huck Finn existence there!

Posted by: Boswell at November 16, 2019 09:41 PM (32YRo)

137 Throw some gas on some wood and light it. The art of fire making once learned, is sufficient.
Posted by: Chouinard
------

Had an interesting experience doing that. It was at Acadia Nat. Park. The normal method was to nurse a few twigs, add kindling, etc.

This time, it was late, dark, and cool. So, gasoline, normally reserved for the stove. Splashed maybe 1/2 pint on, lit a match, dropped it on. Now, what happened next has been the stuff of many campfire recollections since.

My best guess is that evaporation produced cold vapors, which spread down and radially out from the wood stack. At any rate, three or four of us were standing around the campfire site when the match was dropped.

The result was a stunning, uniform, eyeblink-fast ring of ground-level blue flame that expanded beyond where we were standing. It was over before it could even be registered. Much less than a second.

Mighty were the exclamations.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2019 09:42 PM (xSo9G)

138 "111 No idea if it's true, but a passage in a Tim Powers novel says "in the earliest versions of the story, it was not fire that Prometheus stole from the Gods, but beer."

Posted by: Splunge at November 16, 2019 09:34 PM (dOV9E) "

"Drawing of The Dark"

Unpacked and shelved that a few weeks ago.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 09:42 PM (JwHjN)

139 Fuckin porcupines. I had a dog who had a taste for them. He couldn't help himself... had to eat the spiked rats. Eventually, he just learned to lay back and think of the next porcupine while you twisted a couple dozen of those barbed quills out of his bloody face with a pair of pliers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (5aX2M)

140 Hey everybody.

Not so: Walmart for matches. But they do a great job of hiding them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (L2ZTs)

141 I always carried a mini magnifying glass just in case. Pro Tip: doesn't work to start fires at night.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (r+sAi)

142 Anyone know where to get some strike anywhere matches?
Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:40 PM (HALdu)

Last time I saw real ones was at general stores in Amish country. If you happen to be passing through e.g. Shipshewana IN, that's where I'd start looking. Lots of good quality lighting/heating/cooking solutions for electricity-out scenarios, too.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (t+qrx)

143 138 "Drawing of The Dark"

Unpacked and shelved that a few weeks ago.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 09:42 PM (JwHjN)

Yup. Love that book.

Posted by: Splunge at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (dOV9E)

144 I've read a number of stories where someone or a couple turned on a wrong backroad and got stranded in the snow and tried to walk out unsuccessfully.

My immediate thought was that before I'd tried walking out that I'd siphon some gas and light my spare tire on fire for any search party that may be looking for me. How hard is it to light a tire ?

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (2DOZq)

145 Growing up in S.C. we learned that old pine stumps made the best fat lightered kindling.

Fatwood. This is known.

I made more money when I rebranded it as Phat Woody, though. Some customers apparently thought it was testosterone supplement. How they got that idea, I'll never know.

Posted by: Miklosian Urban Marketing SA de CV at November 16, 2019 09:44 PM (QzkSJ)

146
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 16, 2019 09:44 PM (KCxzN)

147 Good night Horde - wife calls and says get of the PC and join the world...enjoy your weekend!

Posted by: Boswell at November 16, 2019 09:45 PM (32YRo)

148 Easy Andy, there's cases of European visitors driving through Death Valley and trusting their GPS entirely to tell them the shortest routes to distances.

At least one online map system was listing roads that have long been abandoned, and this happened:

https://www.sacbee.com/entertainment/living
/travel/article2573180.html

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 16, 2019 09:45 PM (L2ZTs)

149 Hello AltonJackson and also hello AltonJackson's fine vintage Coleman camp stove.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 16, 2019 09:45 PM (t+qrx)

150 Not so: Walmart for matches. But they do a great job of hiding them.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (L2ZTs)

Thanks!

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:45 PM (HALdu)

151 Pick me for matches!!
walmart horshack

Posted by: Try the garden and paper good areas at November 16, 2019 09:45 PM (vqIkG)

152 144 I've read a number of stories where someone or a couple turned on a wrong backroad and got stranded in the snow and tried to walk out unsuccessfully.

My immediate thought was that before I'd tried walking out that I'd siphon some gas and light my spare tire on fire for any search party that may be looking for me. How hard is it to light a tire ?
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (2DOZq)

-----------------------------

Can't light a tire without a spark...

Posted by: B. Springsteen's Non-Union Mexican Equivalent at November 16, 2019 09:45 PM (CAJOC)

153 Live results for the race in Louisiana.

je suis d'accord, nous avons besoin d'un 'thread' pour la Louisiane

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 16, 2019 09:45 PM (ykYG2)

154 Believe it or not, a Dorito makes a fantastic fire starter.

Posted by: PacosMojo at November 16, 2019 09:46 PM (pV4s0)

155 Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 09:38 PM (JwHjN)

I thought she invented the missionary position.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:46 PM (2DOZq)

156 Marilyn Monroe goes fishing:

I had one from that session. I forget if I've used it in a fishy thread.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 09:46 PM (gd9RK)

157 Pacos, don't forget the ol' Mentos + Coke

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 16, 2019 09:46 PM (L2ZTs)

158 Not so: Walmart for matches. But they do a great job of hiding them.
Posted by: qdpsteve

They are at the bottom of the shelves with individual implements-big spoons, spatulas, ladles, etc.

Posted by: Miklos, a top BMI Walmart shopper at November 16, 2019 09:47 PM (QzkSJ)

159 n.b. Diamond brand green tip strike-anywhere matches blow both moose and squirrel. They are unmitigated garbage.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 16, 2019 09:47 PM (t+qrx)

160 Last time I saw real ones was at general stores in Amish country. If you happen to be passing through e.g. Shipshewana IN, that's where I'd start looking. Lots of good quality lighting/heating/cooking solutions for electricity-out scenarios, too.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (t+qrx)

Thanks, the real version of the old white tips are nearly impossible to find.

Guess we have devolved to the point that we are no longer able to have the things our parents did.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:47 PM (HALdu)

161 Anyone mention dryer lint?

Good kindling in and out of the house.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 16, 2019 09:47 PM (Z+IKu)

162 Didn't realize that about gasoline, that's a good warning story.

When used to go skating, we'd light a fire in the middle of the pond with wood and diesel fuel. The diesel would feed the fire on the wood. Flames never traveled along the diesel fuel. Kind of neat.

Posted by: t-bird at November 16, 2019 09:47 PM (NaiLP)

163 Jumping in here late as usual.
Here in the west, campfires are forbidden mostly except in organized, official campgrounds with fire rings or such in place. The wildfire danger can be huge and, wood can be scarce in the high country. My go to stove has always been a Svea 123. No longer made. Solid brass, white gas, indestructable and reliable. The single noisiest stove ever made. You don't notice that until you shut it off. It does need priming which frightens some folk.

As for fire starting material, dryer lint. Light, keep in a ziplock bag and it'll go up like dry newsprint.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (Tt761)

164 144 My immediate thought was that before I'd tried walking out that I'd siphon some gas and light my spare tire on fire for any search party that may be looking for me. How hard is it to light a tire ?
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:43 PM (2DOZq)

Easy peasy

Posted by: Zombie Winnie Mandela at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (dOV9E)

165 je suis d'accord, nous avons besoin d'un 'thread' pour la Louisiane
Posted by: boulder t'hobo

Yeah you rite, cher

Posted by: Miklos, bicultural Yat and Cajun at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (QzkSJ)

166 106 logprof, if you are still here - I just saw your comment in the previous thread that you were in the hospital for seven weeks. I'm so sorry to hear that, and so glad that you are back with us. I hope you are healing and getting better every day. I'll keep you in my prayers. I have a whole Moron section.
Posted by: bluebell at November 16, 2019 09:32 PM (sTBcq)

--Thanks for the kindnesses.

I need all the prayers I can get.

While I'm a long way from finishing the novel, it does have a title (it's had one for over two years, but I've been sitting on it). It'll be entitled As We Ought, lifted from one translation of the passage from Romans ("We do not know how to pray as we ought").

Your comment brought that to minnd.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (Okmx3)

167
I can attest to nurse rached's pic of Deception Pass being a great place, both the state park, and passing through Deception Pass via a fast boat, a slow boat, or a sailboat.

It is a deep, narrow pass with high volcanic rock on each side. A huge amount of water goes through it every tide change. An old bridge soars nearly 200 feet over the pass, taking the driver from Fidalgo Island (seems like the mainland, but it is an island) to the north side of Whidbey Island, home of Whidbey AFB, and their electronic jamming A-6's. The eddys can be like giant bathtubs swirling down to what seems a watery hell. With a fast boat, you dive and pitch, and bounce from side to side. Smart skippers go around the eddys. Just never, ever get off the plane.

Slow boats and sailboats? Where is the tide chart? Only on a tide change will you get through. And get hopping, the window of calm water is only about a half hour. I have seen sailboats get caught in an eddy and just spin endlessly. It is crazy. Never fool with Mother Nature.

Deception Pass is easy to reach, about 2 hours north by freeway and highway. And landwise, the park is big, the north end of Whidbey, with many campspots. And that view of the Straits and the San Juan Islands is sweet.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (sy5kK)

168 Not so: Walmart for matches. But they do a great job of hiding them.
Posted by: qdpsteve

They are at the bottom of the shelves with individual implements-big spoons, spatulas, ladles, etc.
Posted by: Miklos, a top BMI Walmart shopper at November 16, 2019 09:47 PM (QzkSJ)

Are you guys sure those are the white tips and not the green tips? I have found the green tips but not the whites there.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (HALdu)

169 This is the 21st century, you know. Dryer lint plus spark.
And if you didn't bring any with you, belly button lint also works.
Remove, first.

Posted by: RI Red at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (TKe9u)

170 logprof, didn't know you were in the hospital.
I hope you're getting better too. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (L2ZTs)

171 not so, I always find Diamond 'strike anywhere' matches.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 16, 2019 09:49 PM (L2ZTs)

172 Boswell @ 136. Born and raised in Lexington County. I have tramped all through that state from Frogmore to Ravenel and Round O. From McClellanville to Liberty, and North Augusta to South Of The Border. From Clemson to Voorhees, and Antreville to Hellhole Swamp. I been everywhere man.

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2019 09:49 PM (UUkQp)

173 "101 You know, I would like it if someone would make an easy way to boil water using your car outlets. Not for boiling water while driving but in the event that you were stuck somewhere and wanted some hot water.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (HALdu) "

12 volt immersion heater, little coil thing with a cord and cigarette - lighter plug. Amazon has them, or maybe an RV supply store.

Strike-anywhere matches ? Try a hardware store, or some big grocery stores have them too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 09:49 PM (JwHjN)

174 (Eromero picks up his guitar, puts his amp on 11...)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 16, 2019 09:50 PM (L2ZTs)

175 My co-workers must've thought I was high that day a couple of years ago when I was laughing deliriously at the Sam the Caveman compilation.

"Drive Easy Lover, drive!"

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2019 09:50 PM (Okmx3)

176 Oh, come on, you ain't gonna find a laundry mat in the middle of the woods.

Posted by: Moon Moon at November 16, 2019 09:50 PM (r+sAi)

177 My immediate thought was that before I'd tried walking out that I'd siphon some gas and light my spare tire on fire for any search party that may be looking for me. How hard is it to light a tire ?
Posted by: Easy Andy

Some Soviet cars had separate alcohol fueled heaters so that you could turn off the engine, stay warm for a while, and drink the vodka while hoping for someone to find you.

The logic was impeccable.

Posted by: Miklosov Miklosevich at November 16, 2019 09:51 PM (QzkSJ)

178 ot so, I always find Diamond 'strike anywhere' matches.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 16, 2019 09:49 PM (L2ZTs)

Thanks again

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:51 PM (HALdu)

179 So my phone is crapping out, I have to get a new one. This is my only link to you morons because my laptop suffered an unexpected accident that did not include a boating mishap. What should I get? Should I switch carrier? And I wish those who don't follow on a phone just for a day have to experience what it's like when someone blows the margins.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 16, 2019 09:51 PM (ts3NT)

180 12 volt immersion heater, little coil thing with a cord and cigarette - lighter plug. Amazon has them, or maybe an RV supply store.

Strike-anywhere matches ? Try a hardware store, or some big grocery stores have them too.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 09:49 PM (JwHjN)

Thanks!

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:52 PM (HALdu)

181 There's a porcupine in my pants.

Posted by: Adam Schitt at November 16, 2019 09:52 PM (EgshT)

182 172
Boswell @ 136. Born and raised in Lexington County. I have tramped all
through that state from Frogmore to Ravenel and Round O. From
McClellanville to Liberty, and North Augusta to South Of The Border.
From Clemson to Voorhees, and Antreville to Hellhole Swamp. I been
everywhere man.

Posted by: Eromero

Ah, but have you been from Tucson to Tucumcari? Tehachapi to Tonapah?

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 09:52 PM (T6t7i)

183
As for fire starting material, dryer lint. Light, keep in a ziplock bag and it'll go up like dry newsprint.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (Tt761)

One year when my son was in Scouts, a project was making firestarters. Melt pariffin wax and pour it onto rolled up dryer lint, about the size of an acorn.

Will start a fire in the rain. It is still up to you to keep it going until there are coals.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 16, 2019 09:52 PM (sy5kK)

184 Some Soviet cars had separate alcohol fueled heaters so that you could turn off the engine, stay warm for a while, and drink the vodka while hoping for someone to find you.
Posted by: Miklosov Miklosevich at November 16, 2019 09:51 PM (QzkSJ)

British armored vehicles since at least WWII have had an electric tea boiler as standard equipment.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 16, 2019 09:52 PM (t+qrx)

185 Speaking of camps . . .

China created talking points for greeting students whose parents were put into re-education camps�

-
Well, isn't that nice?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 16, 2019 09:52 PM (+y/Ru)

186 Tinfoilbaby, I've had good luck with my Moto phone. They tend to have a lot of features and they're not considered as 'sexy' so they seem to be offered for not too much a month ($15/mo or so).

I kept my Moto phone well after two years and only recently switched to Straight Talk. Saving over $30 a month so far.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 16, 2019 09:53 PM (L2ZTs)

187
Regarding firestarting tools, flint/steel, ferrite rods, fire pistons, magnifying lenses and all other sorts of odd implements are good to have on hand. It's a good idea to practice with them as well.

But in an actual survival situation, they are Plan B, behind a handful of Bic lighters stashed all over your gear. Because in a survival situation, you need fire NOW, not in 40 minutes after fucking around with making a fire bow when it's zero degrees and your socks are wet.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2019 09:53 PM (eXA4G)

188 I thought she invented the missionary position.
Posted by: Easy Andy
---------

I did that.

Posted by: Rae Dawn Chong at November 16, 2019 09:53 PM (CDGwz)

189 179 So my phone is crapping out, I have to get a new one. This is my only link to you morons because my laptop suffered an unexpected accident that did not include a boating mishap. What should I get? Should I switch carrier?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 16, 2019 09:51 PM (ts3NT)

There are maps online for carrier coverage in various locations, so you can choose one that has good coverage in your area. Also, if you are switching, look for serious discounts/promotions. Carriers will spend to get people to switch to paying them every month instead of someone else.

Hardware, can't help, I am a sucker for Apple design so I buy what they give me, though I hold onto it much longer than they would like.

Posted by: Splunge at November 16, 2019 09:54 PM (dOV9E)

190 And I wish those who don't follow on a phone just for a day have to experience what it's like when someone blows the margins.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 16, 2019 09:51 PM (ts3NT)

When I blow the margins it's always a wonderful experience.

Posted by: Naked Rae Dawn Chong at November 16, 2019 09:54 PM (v+3QR)

191 Sitting in front of a dying fire here. Just enjoying the smell.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 16, 2019 09:54 PM (1Ltc6)

192
I always find Diamond 'strike anywhere' matches.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Thanks again
Posted by: not so

But he didn't tell you where.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 16, 2019 09:55 PM (aKsyK)

193 My favorite is the dumb eco-friendly matches with the green tips that barely work and say "sourced from responsible forests" on the box.

What's an irresponsible forest? Is that where the naughty trees go when they've been expelled from the regular forest? Like it's the back of the parking lot for the regular forest?

I bet they go out there and get drunk, and fall over on another. And smoke, and start fires. And pollinate without protection, spreading mistletoe and beetles around.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2019 09:55 PM (5aX2M)

194 Baylor coughs up the ball to the Sooners

Weird game

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2019 09:55 PM (Okmx3)

195 I saw Motorola has a new flip phone smart phone coming out, I would probably like that. I dare not look at the price.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 16, 2019 09:56 PM (ts3NT)

196 Posted by: Eromero

So.

There are now two (2) commenters here who can testify that there is a place (not much of a place) actually named Round O.

Lexington County? Was Nikki your representative in the SC state legislature?

Posted by: Joe "You Lie!" Wilson-Miklos at November 16, 2019 09:56 PM (QzkSJ)

197 Sitting in front of my gas fireplace, RBMS. This is the 21st century.
Until it isnt.

Posted by: RI Red at November 16, 2019 09:56 PM (TKe9u)

198

One time had a flight crew guy very proud of showing up with his homemade lint/wax firestarters.

Wouldn't stay lit for nothing.

He used the lint from a very large load of Nomex flight suits...

Posted by: Astrolite A at November 16, 2019 09:56 PM (W9WyN)

199 Did Charlie's Angels really need a second reboot?

Wait, would this even be a reboot since the girls changed anyway?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 09:56 PM (ycWCI)

200 So my phone is crapping out, I have to get a new one. This is my only link to you morons because my laptop suffered an unexpected accident that did not include a boating mishap. What should I get? Should I switch carrier? And I wish those who don't follow on a phone just for a day have to experience what it's like when someone blows the margins.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 16, 2019 09:51 PM (ts3NT)

My wife forced me to get a new phone. I was going to get a Galaxy 7 but in the process of forcing me to get a new phone she also tricked me into getting a Galaxy Note 10+.

It is kind of big but I am getting use to that. It does lots of cool things, most of which I will never use. However, it is crazy fast and has twice as much ram as the computer I use for this.

I got it from ATT. They were going to charge me the something around 900 or 1000 but I got it for something around 600 or 700 for the good customer something or other.

Would not have replaced the old phone except the sime card would come out every so often and it was old enough that software updates were not being extended to that model .

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:56 PM (HALdu)

201 154 Believe it or not, a Dorito makes a fantastic fire starter.
Posted by: PacosMojo at November 16, 2019 09:46 PM (pV4s0)

--Mandatory:

https://youtu.be/wmin5WkOuPw

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2019 09:57 PM (Okmx3)

202 And I do like my Whisperlite. Great little pack stove.

Question for the Horde:

How many have made fire with a bow drill?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 16, 2019 09:57 PM (1Ltc6)

203 LCD,
Back when I was married, my ex and I took our 25 ft Catalina sailboat through Deception Pass with our babies on board. We went with the 7.5 knot current and were totally out of control. No sails up, of course. We went under the bridge sideways with the powerboats giving us a LOT of leeway.

Had a big snort of rum after we got through safely.

Whoot!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 16, 2019 09:57 PM (PkVlr)

204
As for fire starting material, dryer lint. Light, keep in a ziplock bag and it'll go up like dry newsprint.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (Tt761)

One year when my son was in Scouts, a project was making firestarters. Melt pariffin wax and pour it onto rolled up dryer lint, about the size of an acorn.

Will start a fire in the rain. It is still up to you to keep it going until there are coals.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 16, 2019 09:52 PM (sy5kK)

If you take a few drinking straws cut into 1 or 2 inch lengths and seal one end by grabbing it with needlenose pliers and running a match over the plastic, then stuff it with lint/paraffin and seal the other end, you have a very easy way to carry doubly waterproof tinder. Just cut off the ends and push out with a stick or match.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2019 09:57 PM (eXA4G)

205 Regarding firestarting tools, flint/steel, ferrite rods, fire pistons, magnifying lenses and all other sorts of odd implements are good to have on hand. It's a good idea to practice with them as well.

But in an actual survival situation, they are Plan B, behind a handful of Bic lighters stashed all over your gear. Because in a survival situation, you need fire NOW, not in 40 minutes after fucking around with making a fire bow when it's zero degrees and your socks are wet.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2019 09:53 PM (eXA4G)

That and keep one on your person in case of emergency.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:59 PM (HALdu)

206 "
My best guess is that evaporation produced cold vapors, which spread down and radially out from the wood stack. At any rate, three or four of us were standing around the campfire site when the match was dropped.

The result was a stunning, uniform, eyeblink-fast ring of ground-level blue flame that expanded beyond where we were standing. It was over before it could even be registered. Much less than a second.

Mighty were the exclamations.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2019 09:42 PM (xSo9G) "

I did that once, cleaning duct-tape residue off cables with toluene or xylene ... paused, took a swig of my coffee, lit a cig and dropped the match on the floor ... and just as you described, a blue expanding ring for a second or two.
Always use safety cans for your shop solvents.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 09:59 PM (JwHjN)

207 Shredded newspapers and paraffin in egg cartons always worked for me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (5aX2M)

208 Some Soviet cars had separate alcohol fueled heaters so that you could turn off the engine, stay warm for a while, and drink the vodka while hoping for someone to find you.

The logic was impeccable.
Posted by: Miklosov Miklosevich
-------
I believe that the Corvair had an optional gasoline-fired heater.

Posted by: Rae Dawn Chong at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (CDGwz)

209 Terrible ball security by Sooners

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (Okmx3)

210 Ooops /Chong

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (CDGwz)

211 Hi Nurse!
I've been over Deception Pass many times but no way would I take a boat through there. I'm way to chicken besides, don't swim. Not that it would matter much there.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (Tt761)

212
I saw Motorola has a new flip phone smart phone coming out, I would probably like that. I dare not look at the price.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

It's $1500

No joke

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (aKsyK)

213
--Mandatory:

Posted by: logprof
Wow, that was really awful.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (T6t7i)

214 British armored vehicles since at least WWII have had an electric tea boiler as standard equipment.
Posted by: hogmartin

Oh no.

Not looking up "tea boiler"in the British Urban Dictionary.

Posted by: Miklos, unfooled at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (QzkSJ)

215 199
Did Charlie's Angels really need a second reboot?

Wait, would this even be a reboot since the girls changed anyway?

It's a rebooty.

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at November 16, 2019 10:01 PM (KDTOE)

216 It's $1500

No joke
Posted by: Bertram Cabot

Also Lenovo

No joke

Posted by: Miklos, not a consumer of Chinese PLA products at November 16, 2019 10:02 PM (QzkSJ)

217 Joe Wilson @ 196, John C. West was Governor when I graduated from H.S. in 67 and left for the Navy and other parts. Last time I voted in S.C. was 76.

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2019 10:03 PM (UUkQp)

218 How many have made fire with a bow drill?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 16, 2019 09:57 PM (1Ltc6)

In Scouts *cough* a few years ago.

Probably the quickest and easiest method aside from matches or a lighter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2019 10:03 PM (ycWCI)

219
I still have the old MSR Whisperlite Int'l that I used to carry back in the Army days *koff koff* years ago. Back then, MSR didn't make a small fuel bottle for the stove, so it was just a bit too big to carry in a military butt pack. But somehow I found a 1/3 size knockoff fuel bottle at an outfitters in Anchorage. Perfect.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2019 10:03 PM (eXA4G)

220 Love the shots of Hate Chikin at the Baylor game.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2019 10:04 PM (Okmx3)

221 Stumbled on a "camp stove" site once and was impressed with the little alcohol pop can stoves anyone can make. Definite MacGyver stuff. But be careful with the potentetial explosiveness with those cheap creations.

Posted by: Rex B at November 16, 2019 10:04 PM (bzIRf)

222 Oh no.

Not looking up "tea boiler"in the British Urban Dictionary.
Posted by: Miklos, unfooled at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (QzkSJ)

The official nomenclature is "boiling vessel, electric" or somesuch.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 16, 2019 10:04 PM (t+qrx)

223 "My go to stove has always been a Svea 123. No longer made. Solid brass, white gas, indestructable and reliable. The single noisiest stove ever made. You don't notice that until you shut it off. It does need priming which frightens some folk.

As for fire starting material, dryer lint. Light, keep in a ziplock bag and it'll go up like dry newsprint.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 16, 2019 09:48 PM (Tt761) "

I had a little Optimus like that, lasted me a good 25 years, outstanding stove, hot as hell.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 10:04 PM (JwHjN)

224 And ont is noowed.

Posted by: Rex B at November 16, 2019 10:05 PM (bzIRf)

225 Diesel fuel = "Indian Kindling" (as proudly confirmed to me by a Cree Indian)

And old VW engine blocks make fine kindling. Once you get one of them lit, you can set a lake on fire with it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2019 10:05 PM (/sgva)

226 I have mentioned before that I have one of these. Liquid fueled warmth. People may be put off a bit by the fumes.

https://tinyurl.com/wlgrew8

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2019 10:06 PM (CDGwz)

227
Obligatory Calvin and Hobbes

https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1987/08/02

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2019 10:06 PM (eXA4G)

228 Hi sock
I still have mine but haven't backpacked for years.
I need to fabricate a new holding arm, holds the pot on top, because one of the originals got lost.
The things is bullet proof.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 16, 2019 10:06 PM (Tt761)

229 Question for the Horde: which style of tent works best for urban camping like they have in the east side of downtown L.A.?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2019 09:07 PM (XVuno)

The stolen kind?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2019 10:06 PM (/sgva)

230 Wow, that was really awful.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (T6t7i)

--My friend and I mocked that song incessantly when it came out.

(Of course) Chevrolet disabled comments on its Youtube Volt ads; I so wanted to link to "Firestarter" in the comments.

And wow, Oklahoma coughs up the ball in the Baylor end zone.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2019 10:06 PM (Okmx3)

231 Stumbled on a "camp stove" site once and was impressed with the little alcohol pop can stoves anyone can make. Definite MacGyver stuff. But be careful with the potentetial explosiveness with those cheap creations.
Posted by: Rex B at November 16, 2019 10:04 PM (bzIRf)

The cool thing about those is that they use denatured alcohol, which is cheap, available anywhere, and not very dangerous to store or use. The downside is it takes a relatively long time to boil a cup of water. They're a homemade featherweight version of the Swedish Trangia brass stove.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 16, 2019 10:07 PM (t+qrx)

232 How come a family of four can get unlimited service and free phones for a hundred a month, but my single ass can't get the equivalent?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 16, 2019 10:07 PM (ts3NT)

233 Interesting though that fishing movies are few and far between. Probably no more than a dozen.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 09:03 PM (2DOZq)

Would you consider Grumpy Old Men to be a "fishing movie"?

Posted by: GWB at November 16, 2019 10:07 PM (7wfSc)

234 Nood

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at November 16, 2019 10:08 PM (/UQ/R)

235 "198

One time had a flight crew guy very proud of showing up with his homemade lint/wax firestarters.

Wouldn't stay lit for nothing.

He used the lint from a very large load of Nomex flight suits...

Posted by: Astrolite A at November 16, 2019 09:56 PM (W9WyN) "

LOL !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 10:08 PM (JwHjN)

236 Still have my optimus, but had to start it farther away from the tent than the whisperlite, and it was heavier, so it has guarded the homefront for many years.

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at November 16, 2019 10:08 PM (KDTOE)

237 Some years ago I purchased one of those olive, "mil-spec", waterproof, match containers with a striker on the bottom.

The stored matches phosphorus tipped kitchen matches. Came across the container ten years later.
The match heads were mush.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 16, 2019 10:10 PM (9v1sv)

238 i went to the local candle making hobby shop, and bought wax flakes in a gallon zip loc bag...

put some on a half sheet of news paper, roll it upso the wax is in the middle, then put 4-6 of them towards the top of the tinder pile...

like miniature candles to help get everything started.

we no can has ONT?

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 16, 2019 10:10 PM (NqeSm)

239 They're a homemade featherweight version of the Swedish Trangia brass stove.
Posted by: hogmartin

And you have the "Greta Thunberg" top of the line model.

Snob.

Posted by: Miklos, using hand harvested cotton bolls like Grandaddy at November 16, 2019 10:10 PM (QzkSJ)

240 Winston,
Deception pass is the shortcut to the San Juans if you're a sailboat. Otherwise, the trip on the eastside of Whibey Island can be really gnarly and puts you too close to the shipping lanes for my comfort. The Straits can be really dicey.

I miss my little boat.

I may buy a sailboat to live on when I have to move from my present situation. Talk about getting rid of a lifetime of stuff.....

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 16, 2019 10:10 PM (PkVlr)

241
Would you consider Grumpy Old Men to be a "fishing movie"?
Posted by: GWB
---

Jaws

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2019 10:10 PM (CDGwz)

242 Boswell @ 136. Born and raised in Lexington County. I have tramped all
through that state from Frogmore to Ravenel and Round O. From
McClellanville to Liberty, and North Augusta to South Of The Border.
From Clemson to Voorhees, and Antreville to Hellhole Swamp. I been
everywhere man

You have my friend! I lived for awhile in Mt Pleasant - but that's city living from where you've wandered. I like that you've gone from the lowlands to up into the mountains (people don't know how beautiful it is up by Clemson, they think of S.C as beaches and islands).

S.C is a beautiful state - and Columbia and USC are gorgeous - I couldn't convince my daughter to go there - she wanted a Northeast liberal arts school - she missed out!

Posted by: Boswell at November 16, 2019 10:11 PM (32YRo)

243 Apparently the "Charlie" in this new Angels is a woman.

Morgoth, as ever, cannot create; he can only corrupt.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 16, 2019 10:12 PM (ykYG2)

244 I have a Jet Boil Flash that I use for boiling water camping or in an emergency. It boils water, 2 cups, in just under 2 mins.

Mostly used when the better half is cold and needs something now.

Have been meaning to get the MSR Whisperlite Universal that burns nearly anything but never get around to it.

Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 10:12 PM (HALdu)

245
I saw Motorola has a new flip phone smart phone coming out, I would probably like that. I dare not look at the price.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

$1500

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 16, 2019 10:12 PM (438dO)

246 West side of whidbey

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 16, 2019 10:12 PM (PkVlr)

247 Or this one :

https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1995/09/26

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 10:14 PM (JwHjN)

248 I say fatwood is fair play in starting a fire - people before electricity had the ability to make fatwood for that purpose, by soaking kindling in spare animal grease. If you're in a really wet area where the wood is damp, you really need something like that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2019 09:27 PM (V2Yro)

If you are camping in an area that has white birch trees, the kind you can peel the bark off easily, those birch bark peelings take light easily, and burn like crazy, since the bark is full of resin. Even wet, it will burn.

And dead lower limbs of conifer trees makes good kindling. Usually quite dry, even in a rain storm.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2019 10:15 PM (/sgva)

249 If you are camping in an area that has white birch trees, the kind you can peel the bark off easily, those birch bark peelings take light easily, and burn like crazy, since the bark is full of resin. Even wet, it will burn.

Yes, birch bark is the best if you can find it.

Unfortunately birch only grows in pure northern climes and our sorry southern brethren know nothing of the birch.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, camp fire pics welcome at e-mail in nic at November 16, 2019 10:17 PM (gd9RK)

250 Birch bark is great, and probably the nicest smelling tinder ever !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 16, 2019 10:18 PM (JwHjN)

251 You know, I would like it if someone would make an easy way to boil water using your car outlets. Not for boiling water while driving but in the event that you were stuck somewhere and wanted some hot water.
Posted by: not so at November 16, 2019 09:31 PM (HALdu)

They make 12 volt car coffeemakers, but they are slow. The lighter outlet typically has a 20 amp fuse, so you only have 240 watts of power available.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2019 10:18 PM (/sgva)

252 Would you consider Grumpy Old Men to be a "fishing movie"?
Posted by: GWB

Sure. One of a dozen. On Golden Pond would also be a fishing movie.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 16, 2019 10:18 PM (2DOZq)

253 203 LCD,
Back when I was married, my ex and I took our 25 ft Catalina sailboat through Deception Pass with our babies on board. We went with the 7.5 knot current and were totally out of control. No sails up, of course. We went under the bridge sideways with the powerboats giving us a LOT of leeway.

Had a big snort of rum after we got through safely.

Whoot!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 16, 2019 09:57 PM (PkVlr)

A 25 Catalina? That is like the Volkswagen Bug of Puget Sound sailing. Simple, solid, relatively cheap, basic, well-designed hull that can take nearly any water a human being should be caught in. There are a whole lot of them. A great way to learn how to sail.

I knew a guy who long ago had one and got moorage on Lake Union, under the Aurora bridge, and lived in it for a year. He got more 'tang than any time of his life, with the line "want to go back to my sailboat and have another drink?" It was 10 minutes or less from most any bar in downtown Seattle, or the Ballard or Fremont neighborhoods, where a lot of bars are congregated.

Yeah, it was a 25 Catalina, but by the time they arrived in the wee hours of the morning, somehow it didn't matter much.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 16, 2019 10:23 PM (sy5kK)

254 Bander,
Thank you so much for the fun thread. I'm no hunter, but I love the outdoors!

Looking forward to your next thread!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at November 16, 2019 10:25 PM (PkVlr)

255 211 Hi Nurse!
I've been over Deception Pass many times but no way would I take a boat through there. I'm way to chicken besides, don't swim. Not that it would matter much there.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (Tt761)

With a fast powerboat at least 27' or so, it is a lot of fun.

Still, the skipper has to pay attention every second.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 16, 2019 10:26 PM (sy5kK)

256 I believe that the Corvair had an optional gasoline-fired heater.
Posted by: Rae Dawn Chong at November 16, 2019 10:00 PM (CDGwz)

As did air-cooled VW's. Some had Hupp Perfection gas heaters, made in USA. Most had a Bosch contrivance that worked well when new, but which used a catalytic glow plug that became poisoned by the lead in gasoline, and would no longer light the fuel, despite glowing bravely. Now that unleaded fuel is the norm, they will probably work fine again. I have one in the parts bin.

And Southwind fuel-burning heaters used to be a common accessory for cars from the '30's to the '50's.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/u68jfeq

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2019 10:37 PM (/sgva)

257 Late to the thread, dammit.

When I first moved to Virginia a friend and his wife took me up to Skyline Drive to see the Valley and other views. (He was later Best Man at my wedding.) It was a brilliant sunny day but there was a 'brisk' cutting wind that seemed to be coming off the polar ice cap. They broke out a little camp stove, it may have been a Svea of some type, and heated water for tea. That cup of Russian Caravan tea was the best cuppa I ever had. Warmed the hands and the inner man. We talked of the history of the area while the stove roared and enjoyed the quiet and tea when the stove was shut down. It was a lovely time that is still sharp in my memory after almost 40 years.

Posted by: JTB at November 16, 2019 10:48 PM (bmdz3)

258 And while I realize this is not the movie thread, my wife is watching a documentary on Clive Davis and Arista records. The parts I've been watching have been very interesting. So, if you have any interest in the music industry, it's on Netflix, and worth a watch.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 16, 2019 09:40 PM (CAJOC)

During the days of the robber baron fossils running the labels, Clive was pretty fucking brilliant. The Columbia dumbasses let him go and he promptly turned Arista into a major force.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 16, 2019 11:07 PM (y7DUB)

259 Greetings:

A one inch or so ball of C-4 will get a campfire going really good really quickly.

Posted by: 11B40 at November 16, 2019 11:19 PM (evgyj)

260 216
It's $1500

No joke

Posted by: Bertram Cabot

Also Lenovo

No joke

Posted by: Miklos, not a consumer of Chinese PLA products at November 16, 2019 10:02 PM (QzkSJ)

So... Chinese and loaded with spyware to the coming oriental horde?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2019 11:32 PM (nAiE/)

261 216

It's $1500

No joke

Posted by: Bertram Cabot

Also Lenovo

No joke

Posted by: Miklos, not a consumer of Chinese PLA products at November 16, 2019 10:02 PM (QzkSJ)

So... Chinese and loaded with spyware to the coming oriental horde?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2019 11:32 PM (nAiE/)

So... Chinese and loaded with spyware to help the invasion of the coming oriental horde?

Complete sentences, red, complete sentences.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 16, 2019 11:34 PM (nAiE/)

262 Napped in the sage this afternoon. Woke up and saw some elk a couple ridges over. Chased them till dark but never caught up.

Posted by: Igotnothing at November 17, 2019 12:09 AM (JojTR)

263 Fire is obviously an important outdoor skill, but what is probably an even harder thing to master is getting by without it.

Some people just can't make get their brains into a shape that contains both "being outdoors" and "not setting things on fire and/or smoking the crap out of themselves". Makes certain types of traveling and activities really difficult, especially if you're trying to keep a low profile during or after.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at November 17, 2019 01:48 AM (67XdO)

264 CBD, my father-in-law, rest his soul, would've loved every word of this. And the gently charred trout!

Posted by: m at November 17, 2019 03:40 AM (55d/e)

265 Thanks CBD for the picture request reminder - just sent you a Gmail!

Posted by: MoJoTee at November 17, 2019 04:36 AM (O7t6I)

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