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Europeans Visiting the US for the World Cup Have Been Marveling At American Plenty, So the Left-Wing Bitter Widow Vanity Magazine "The Atlantic" Tries to Prove It's All a Right-Wing Psyop

This has been going on for a couple of weeks. Europeans are posting videos (mostly TikToks) showing themselves astounded by the portion sizes at American restaurants, enjoying American conveniences, delighting in America's unique cuisine (such as barbecue and chicken and waffles), and generally enjoying the American way of life.


Emanuel Quiñones
@EQuinones6310

Jun 19

The World Cup has turned America into a discovery channel for the rest of the world.

And they are not handling it well.
In the best possible way.

Here is what they are discovering:

Free public restrooms. Europeans pay every time.
Free water at every restaurant. Just appears.
Free refills. Coffee. Sodas. Iced tea. Unlimited.
Free chips and salsa before you even order.
Free warm bread with dinner.
Ice in drinks like civilized people.
Air conditioning everywhere. Not a moral debate. A fact.
Parking lots attached to the actual place you are going.
Drive throughs where the food comes to the car while you sit in it.
Ranch dressing by the gallon.
Tex-Mex that cannot be explained only experienced.
Dental care that actually works.
Buccee's. There are no words for Buccee's.

Then they found the grocery stores.

Five of them within one mile.
Each one the size of an aircraft hangar.
Burgers. Steaks. Brisket. Ribs. Pulled pork. Lamb. Veal. Every cut of every animal ever domesticated by human civilization available in one refrigerated aisle at ten in the morning on a Tuesday.

The Germans stood in the meat section for forty five minutes.
In silence.
Processing.

They finally understand why we do not have trains.

We have roads wide enough for the cars we actually drive.
Parking lots the size of small European countries.
Airports in every city worth visiting.

Why would we need trains.

The Germans are taking ranch home by the bottle.
The Dutch found queso and briefly lost the ability to speak.
The Japanese are photographing HEB like it is the Louvre.
The Czechs are weeping in West, Texas.

Welcome to America!
The greatest country on earth.


Some video examples:

More examples. There are some are repeats from the last one in the beginning, but it's mostly all new:

And marveling at American suburbs and high schools:

So it's a nice story. It's a trend that reminds us in America to not take our plenty for granted, but to be grateful for it.

The left, on the other hand, doesn't think it's a nice story at all. They hate America for its riches and simultaneously curse it for having so much poverty. Choose a lane, guys.

So Steve Jobs' useless widow's Rich White Karen Needs a Hobby vanity magazine The Atlantic tried to debunk this "trend," as it's called, of Europeans appreciating America. They tried to prove it was inorganic. Fake. A right-wing op.

Note that he failed to find any evidence of this, but The Atlantic still claims, in its headline, that the videos are "not what they seem." Lack of evidence for the conspiracy is just further evidence of the conspiracy.

Justine Bateman read their attempt to #TakeDown this #ReichWingOp so that you don't have to.

Justine Bateman
@JustineBateman

It's sad that someone would feel compelled to write an article like this.

Within this Atlantic article, the writer strains against the joy that's been expressed by our foreign World Cup guests, and tries to find evidence of its falseness.

He is unable to.

I have saved you the trouble of reading the article. Enjoy all the happy videos instead.

And @TheAtlantic, you would gain many subscribers if you were to instead print the obvious piece about the joy being expressed. And also pull some happiness to yourself in associating with this joy.

"Joy" is a dirty word to communists. They are anhedonic, unable to take pleasure in the joys of life, so out of spite they seek to deny joy to others.

Communists, as you know, are the most miserable people who have ever infested the earth. They look at people enjoying food they never had before, like barbecue, and get angry to see people showing pleasure.

There is only one kind of pleasure allowed on earth, and that is to agitate for communism and "critique" -- meaning "relentlessly attack with invective both fair and fictitious until it collapses due to the sheer weight of hate heaped upon it" -- any functional, working capitalist system.

If successful, this "culture of critique" results, deliberately, in the immiseration of all people it is inflicted upon.

Now it just so happens that I saw someone post on Twitter a letter to Karl Marx from his father. Marx's writings created the "culture of critique" and he announced the scheme to engage in never-ending denunciation of the bourgeois comfort he was born into, with the idea that if enough communists engage in this coordinated Satanic rite of mass denunciation, it will bring civilized society down, dying from a million cuts from angry, spiteful, bitter, mentally-ill communists.

I thought maybe the letter was a fugazy but no, it's entirely real.

Karl Marx's father scolded him for not replying to any of his letters, except in a "fragmentary" "embittered" rant. He then scolded Marx for being permanently bitter about his state, despite having grown up in material comfort with all of the advantages in life.

I've bolded the key part but I'm including all of it. Skip to the bold if you're impatient.

Have you still your headquarters in Stralow? At this time of year and in the land where no lemon trees are in bloom, can this be thinkable? But where are you then? That is the question, and for a practical man the first requirement for correspondence is to know an address. Therefore, I have to take advantage of the kindness of others.

In other words, Karl Marx is a transient with no fixed abode and does not update his father on his current whereabouts. But he "takes advantage of the kindness of others," which I assume means he gave this letter to a mutual friend to deliver to the itinerant communist dipshit.


An address, however, is form, and precisely that seems to be your weak side. Things may well be different as regards material?

His father's kind of witty. He's mocking the idea that Marx has no "material" to write to him about.

At least, one should suppose so, if one bears in mind: 1) that you have no lack of subject-matter, 2) that your situation is serious enough to arouse great interest, 3) that your father is perhaps somewhat partial in his attachment to you, etc., etc., etc., and yet after an interval of two months, the second of which caused me some unpleasant hours full of anxiety, I received a letter without form or content, a torn fragment saying nothing, which stood in no relation to what went before it and had no connection with the future!

If a correspondence is to be of interest and value, it must have consistency, and the writer must necessarily have his last letter before his eyes, as also the last reply. Your last letter but one contained much that excited my expectation. I had written a number of letters which asked for information on my points. And instead of all that, I received a letter of bits and fragments, and, what is much worse, an embittered letter.

Marx was a manic-depressive lunatic, as one could gather from his Exclamation-Point-Riddled-Rants!!!, and I imagine the last fragmentary letter to his father was written in his style of deranged excitement and denunciation, which caused the poor dad to worry.

Frankly speaking, my dear Karl, I do not like this modern word ["embittered"], which all weaklings use to cloak their feelings when they quarrel with the world because they do not possess, without labour or trouble, well-furnished palaces with vast sums of money and elegant carriages. This embitterment disgusts me and you are the last person from whom I would expect it. What grounds can you have for it? Has not everything smiled on you ever since your cradle? Has not nature endowed you with magnificent talents? Have not your parents lavished affection on you? Have you ever up to now been unable to satisfy your reasonable wishes? And have you not carried away in the most incomprehensible fashion the heart of a girl whom thousands envy you? Yet the first untoward event, the first disappointed wish, evokes embitterment! Is that strength? Is that a manly character?

FUCKING GO OFF KING!

You yourself had declared, in dry words, that you would be satisfied with assurances for the future, and because of them renounce all outward signs for the present. Did you not make that renunciation word for word in writing? And only children complain about the word they have given when they begin to feel pressure.

I don't know what this means but the sense I get is that Marx has pestered his father relentlessly for money, writing only when he needed some, and at some point angrily declared he would trouble him no further for it, and now the father is asking: Did you not tell me directly that you would no longer make demands on my wallet? Are you a "child" who now regrets that declaration and seeks to undo it?

Yet here too your luck holds. Your good mother, who has a softer heart than I have and to whom it still very often occurs that we too were once the plaything of the little blind rogue, sounded the alarm, and the all too good parents of your Jenny could hardly wait for the moment when the poor, wounded heart would be consoled, and the recipe is undoubtedly already in your hands, if a defective address has not caused the epistle to go astray.

Time is limited, for Sophie is to take the letter before the post to the von Westphalens, who now live far away, and this good opportunity also was announced to me only today, so that I must conclude. As a matter of fact, at present I would not know what to say, at most I could only put questions to you, and I do not like to be importunate. Only one thing more my Herr Son will still allow me, namely, to express my surprise that I have still not received any request for money! Or do you perhaps want already now to make up for it from the too great amount taken? It's a little too early for that.

I think the means "I am surprised I have not received a demand for money since your last one," as he goes on to mention "too great amount [of money already] taken."


Your dear mother refused to reconcile herself entirely to the fact that you did not come home in the autumn as the others did. If it is too long for you and dear mother until next autumn, you could come for the Easter vacation.

What a shock, a spoiled communist, refusing to pay his parents any kindness, only writing when he needs more money to continue loafing around without contributing anything to society (and indeed, as the fullness of time will reveal, doing a great deal to destroy it.)

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:43 PM




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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:42 PM (2YhKe)

2 The people will demand Barbeque and Buc-Ee's when they return to Europe.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (2YhKe)

3 LOLGF, Atlantic.

AMERICA, F$?&@ YEAH!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 03:44 PM (4KUe5)

4 One thing that struck me in Italy: all their stores are tiny. Now granted this is Rome where you do not exactly have a ton of space unless you want to demolish a 2000 year old building, but come on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2026 03:44 PM (zZu0s)

5 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 22, 2026 03:46 PM (Lx4gz)

6 We're rich, have good tasting food, and are generally kind of happy outside the cities.

But they have public transport and single payer healthcare queues to make them feel better when they get home.

Also, it takes as long to drive across Texas as it does to get halfway across Western Europe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:46 PM (Zn6QU)

7 One thing not mentioned by the Atlantic?

We didn’t have to build any stadiums like past host countries have done.
Why?
Because we had so many FOOTBALL stadiums, both NFL and SEC that could easily host an international event.

Because… America is awesome!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 03:47 PM (4KUe5)

8 The left, on the other hand, doesn't think it's a nice story at all. They hate America for its riches and simultaneously curse it for having so much poverty. Choose a lane, guys.

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

The American left's critique of America is not actually a critique of America. It's a critique of Democrat-run urban existence extrapolated out to the rest of the country.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:47 PM (Zn6QU)

9 They are doing the same thing on YouTube. It's an obvious concerted effort to lessen the positivity being displayed by foreigners.

And, while I'd initially put it into the category of individual "Karens" ...I think there might be some intelligence agencies orchestrating the current onslaught of disagreement and negativity. I'd be curious how many bots are active on some of those video comments.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 03:47 PM (dIske)

10 7 One thing not mentioned by the Atlantic?

We didn’t have to build any stadiums like past host countries have done.
Why?
Because we had so many FOOTBALL stadiums, both NFL and SEC that could easily host an international event.

Because… America is awesome!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 03:47 PM (4KUe5)

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But it's not their preferred sport of soccer, so it doesn't count.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:48 PM (Zn6QU)

11 From now on it's football. I will never use the word soccer again. Ever.

Why? To piss off the NFL.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:48 PM (22ggK)

12 HEB is the greatest grocery store ever! I'm lucky to live close to two of them, and to have a Buccee's just down the road a bit.

Also lucky to have a ranch in far west Texas where I can visit anytime. It's God's country and it's beautiful. It makes we weep with joy, too.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 22, 2026 03:48 PM (k9OZB)

13 Karl Marx's father scolded him for not replying to any of his letters, except in a "fragmentary" "embittered" rant. He then scolded Marx for being permanently bitter about his state, despite having grown up in material comfort with all of the advantages in life.

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Get in time machine.
Give Papa Marx a gun.
"Nothing good is coming of this bastard of yours. Just put him out of his misery."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:49 PM (Zn6QU)

14 This is a mighty fine punchbowl...
... for me to POOP in

Posted by: the Atlantic at June 22, 2026 03:49 PM (gKWVE)

15 Boston ran out of beer. All they had left is some Bud Lite
How could Boston run out of beer? It even sounds strange to say it.

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (IY9No)

16
14 This is a mighty fine punchbowl...
... for me to POOP in

Posted by: the Atlantic at June 22, 2026 03:49 PM (gKWVE)

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WAY too witty and pithy for The Atlantic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (Zn6QU)

17
That "one pancake" is sus to this American!

It must have been Pancake Tower or something.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (XJ22o)

18 don't skip out on the Karl Marx letter from his father!

It's so perfect you'd think it had to be right-wing op itself!

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (1wjle)

19 The funniest ones I saw were the Euros marveling that the yellow school buses were real. Most of them just thought that was from cartoons.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (n5tGW)

20 lol
"Milk, bread, and an air rifle!"

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (UjdFS)

21 Don’t take anhedonic if you are allergic to anhedonic, or to any of its ingredients.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (77rzZ)

22 I saw an internet rumor that TSA had to issue a public statement reminding Euros that bottles of ranch must be packed in checked luggage, not carry-ons. Too beaucoup.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (w/O5Q)

23 Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (1wjle)

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Why Lamont today?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (Zn6QU)

24 Videos of Brits discovering Buc-ee's and Texas BBQ are outright delightful. Breaks their minds in the absolute best possible ways. Whats also interesting is how ignorant and propagandized they are about America once they first arrive. Some man on the street interviews of various furriners of what they think America is like or American food is like (before they've yet experienced it) are astonishing. It's like they've been getting their knowledge about it America third-hand from North Korean government or something.

Posted by: Walmart and Target make them swoon at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (TbWk/)

25 I've really enjoyed all the "World Cup fans experience America" videos.

I have to laugh though. American food portions are big. Too Big?

Posted by: WisRich at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (G0vdT)

26 Every cut of every animal ever domesticated by human civilization available in one refrigerated aisle

we're eating the dogs
we're eating the cats
we're eating the pets of the people that live here

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (sGtp+)

27 Parents really knew how to write letters back then...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (gnNyN)

28 America is objectively great! Suck it, lefties!

Posted by: LASue at June 22, 2026 03:52 PM (bOS38)

29 We didn’t have to build any stadiums like past host countries have done.
Why?
Because we had so many FOOTBALL stadiums, both NFL and SEC that could easily host an international event.

Because… America is awesome!

Posted by: Lizzy

If we still had women's lingerie football, they'd never go home. Women's roller derby also.

Just saying.

Posted by: Buttigig at June 22, 2026 03:52 PM (ItpVy)

30 The other joy has been the American people!
Again and again, these visitors report kindness and friendships. The “Tartan Army” declared Bostonians friendly, for Pete’s sake! Freddy has gotten so many presents and offers for free travel/accommodations he short-circuited, lol.

We are not dumb bigots and jerks, dear Atlantic writer. In fact, based on social media accounts, we normie Americans in flyover states are pretty dang fabulous.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 03:53 PM (4KUe5)

31 Isn't there a statue of Marx in Seattle? Or is that Mussolini? I forget.

Communist f*cktards.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:53 PM (2YhKe)

32 Some hotties in those vids. The Blade can show them some things, ya know. Things not meant for TikTok. Trust The Blade. He aims to please.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:53 PM (iFTx/)

33 "Europeans Visiting the US for the World Cup Have Been Marveling At American Plenty, So the Left-Wing Bitter Widow Vanity Magazine "The Atlantic" Tries to Prove It's All a Right-Wing Psyop"


Why? That's a serious question. Are they trying to keep their 200 readers from jumping ship or something? Because their audience is limited to the most diehard leftists and this article is not reaching anyone else.


Maybe it's just a reflex response to anything that shows America is a good country.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2026 03:53 PM (0N4FZ)

34 Also, it takes as long to drive across Texas as it does to get halfway across Western Europe."

Scotland to Northern Italy. It's amazing.

American tourists ride shiny trains and walk thru pretty museums. Those of us who have worked in European countries have sat in endless traffic jams, lived with minimal choices, paid insane prices for simple goods, been packed in with more people in less space...

I'm in Texas. They can have uurup

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 03:53 PM (XuXeR)

35 Tourists are bringing back ranch dressing as a souvenir ??
OK, fine..as long as they are going back.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (GD0B3)

36 >>>31 Isn't there a statue of Marx in Seattle? Or is that Mussolini? I forget.

there's a Lenin one in NYC (obvi)

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (1wjle)

37 "Joy" is a dirty word to communists. They are anhedonic, unable to take pleasure in the joys of life, so out of spite they seek to deny joy to others.

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Au contraire, mon frere. They know joy and pleasure - the sadistic glee of dominance for its own sake. It requires the infliction of misery on everyone they behold, that's all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (BI5O2)

38 Said to be shot dead by mistake by a female officer.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Video.

https://tinyurl.com/ykfz4cxe

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (ndZc7)

39 Another factor someone brought up is that the fanbases coming tend to be more...working class. Less averagely wealthy than people like those who travel for the Olympics.

So, you get working class Germans and Brits driving through rural parts of America, and it feels a bit like home but, you know, with more trees, bigger parking lots, and more to buy in the stores.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (Zn6QU)

40 Isn't there a statue of Marx in Seattle? Or is that Mussolini? I forget.

Communist f*cktards.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:53 PM (2YhKe)
---------
Lenin.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (amcLV)

41 Marx is buried in London. Just saying.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 03:55 PM (GD0B3)

42 "We're rich"

We're $40T in debt. We live rich. We aren't rich-rich.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:55 PM (Jr5Lq)

43
Why Lamont today?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (Zn6QU)


He shit the bed a LOT last week.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:55 PM (2YhKe)

44 There is honest to God poverty in this country - I've seen it on certain tribal areas, for instance - but by and large it is not what people think it is. It is certainly not what the Leftists claim it is. Like everything else, it's just a propaganda tool to be used against us.

If adults have cars to drive and a roof over their heads, and every black child I see is walking around with a smart phone, then you know, we're not quite the third world, yet. Politically perhaps, but otherwise...

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 22, 2026 03:55 PM (QaH55)

45 It is actually heartening to see how much the World Cup travelers are enjoying the USA. Their amazement, humor (Norwegians rowing), and even putting snooty Boston Irishmen to shame by outdrinking them. All the while picking up after themselves and not leaving trash everywhere. After all these many years hearing MSM and politicians telling us how much America sucks and how evil we are, seeing these fans revel in all that the USA has to offer is very refreshing.

Posted by: Martha Stewart at June 22, 2026 03:55 PM (N39Ws)

46 43
Why Lamont today?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (Zn6QU)


He shit the bed a LOT last week.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:55 PM (2YhKe)

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Depends?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:55 PM (Zn6QU)

47 Off Gay, incompetent sock!!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2026 03:55 PM (ItpVy)

48 Who is buried in Marx's Tomb?

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:56 PM (22ggK)

49 ---------
Lenin.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (amcLV)


So much better.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:56 PM (2YhKe)

50 Saw a funny one on TV this morning: Some Brit guy:
"Now I know why Americans like their big trucks!"

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 03:56 PM (UjdFS)

51 I read that the beer consumption in Boston by the tartan army was four times more than on St Patrick’s day. The bars were getting emergency deliveries to keep up, heh.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 03:56 PM (4KUe5)

52 35 Tourists are bringing back ranch dressing as a souvenir ??
OK, fine..as long as they are going back.
Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (GD0B3)
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I saw one European explain that although a lot of "American" food has made it over to Europe, Ranch Dressing is one food item that hasn't. Weird.

Posted by: WisRich at June 22, 2026 03:56 PM (G0vdT)

53 >>>He shit the bed a LOT last week.....

yup. Lamont needs to be shamed for a few more days.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 03:56 PM (1wjle)

54
Depends?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:55 PM (Zn6QU)


I mean, he had open HTML tags in something like 4 threads in a ROW one day. Then removed an entire post for 20 minutes, after it was up for 30, to fix it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:56 PM (2YhKe)

55 Twenty-five years ago, the American and European Union economies were about the same size.

Thist is no longer true. The Europeans have focused on the pursuit "Net-Zero", regulation, and importing even more basically unproductive people than the United States has.

Just imagine what it will be like in another twenty-five years...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 22, 2026 03:57 PM (aD4fx)

56 I thought the US was still pretty darn good even when Obama and Biden were fucking it over. To the left, the US can't possibly be good under any Republican president. I hate the left.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 03:57 PM (Dv3i1)

57
The American left's critique of America is not actually a critique of America. It's a critique of Democrat-run urban existence extrapolated out to the rest of the country.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

================

I've watched a LOT of "We fled Trump's America" videos on social media. Invariably, these people take their 2 large dogs and 3 kids to... the whitest possible area of The Netherlands, the quaintest areas of Italy, the touristic coasts of Mexico, areas of Spain or Portugal that specifically serve expats, etc. And a running theme is, "It's safe here, no guns, no street crime."

Do these people know why those things happen in America, and WHERE they happen? All they ever had to do was leave the big blue city in the blue state and move to some high-trust Republican suburb.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:57 PM (XJ22o)

58 This reminds me of Russians visiting the US in the 80s and they would start crying in the grocery store.

Our poor people are fat. That really tells you everything you need to know about America.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 22, 2026 03:57 PM (fr+Kt)

59 Another factor someone brought up is that the fanbases coming tend to be more...working class. Less averagely wealthy than people like those who travel for the Olympics.

So, you get working class Germans and Brits driving through rural parts of America, and it feels a bit like home but, you know, with more trees, bigger parking lots, and more to buy in the stores.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (Zn6QU)
_________

Yea. Also, they are travelling to the USA for the first time for a sports game. USA has some of the most popular international destinations in the world. But these people have never been here before. Suggests they aren't part of the affluent classes.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

60 Joy, beauty, goodness all are uber bad words in democratic-communism. Expect them to be banned if another democratic-communist cheats their way to the presidency.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 03:57 PM (xvV+O)

61 Don't get many third world illegals making videos about how great America is.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:57 PM (22ggK)

62 So, I guess all those Scots invading Boston was just my imagination?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 03:58 PM (2WIwB)

63 "We have roads wide enough for the cars we actually drive."

I took a trip with my family via cruise to Greece and Turkey. We spent some time in Athens before we left. Apparently a "3 lane" highway in Athens is really a 5-land highway with the cycles using the white lines as their own lanes. I was also amazed at all the tagged surfaces in Athens, although I didn't know what most of them read other than the anti-IDF and "free Gaza/Palestine" nonsense.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 22, 2026 03:58 PM (KKMoa)

64
yup. Lamont needs to be shamed for a few more days.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 03:56 PM (1wjle)


We appreciate your self-deprecation efforts.

Seems "learn to code" should actually be a thing, especially if you run your own blog.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:58 PM (2YhKe)

65 "Now I know why Americans like their big trucks!"
Posted by: wth

I like big trucks and I cannot lie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:58 PM (ndZc7)

66 “ There is only one kind of pleasure allowed on earth, and that is to agitate for communism and "critique" -- meaning "relentlessly attack with invective both fair and fictitious until it collapses due to the sheer weight of hate heaped upon it" -- any functional, working capitalist system.”

There’s one more kind of pleasure the commies like: getting rodgered up the squeak hole.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (6A7dD)

67 I'm...gonna set myself up for massive flaming, but I think a lot of these videos are just people making them because they are popular and will get lots of clicks. Sure, some of them are genuine, but most are "look at this hamburger". I'm pretty sure they have hamburgers in Europe.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (Riz8t)

68 I saw one European explain that although a lot of "American" food has made it over to Europe, Ranch Dressing is one food item that hasn't. Weird.
Posted by: WisRich at June 22, 2026 03:56 PM (G0vdT)
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I'm still waiting to see German Spezi show up in the soft-drink aisle at Walmart.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (gnNyN)

69 59
Yea. Also, they are travelling to the USA for the first time for a sports game. USA has some of the most popular international destinations in the world. But these people have never been here before. Suggests they aren't part of the affluent classes.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

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The average European thinks that New York City and Los Angeles are a few hours apart by car, and that the only thing to see outside of them is Chicago (maybe Miami).

Their thinking of America is very urban and very centered on the largest urban areas.

Learning that there are countries of people and things to do in between has got to be eye-opening to them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (Zn6QU)

70 "If adults have cars to drive and a roof over their heads" [and the insurance required for both]

That's progressively more difficult to do.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (Jr5Lq)

71 Hating America (under Republicans) is actually the truth. The lie is when they say they like it under a Democrat.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (22ggK)

72 Au contraire, mon frere. They know joy and pleasure - the sadistic glee of dominance for its own sake.

“But always – do not forget this, Winston – always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – for ever.”

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (aD4fx)

73 Of all the many foreigners I've met abroad, the English have the most grossly distorted view of our country, oddly enough. They think every American schoolchild has been shot before they're old enough for their first orgy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:00 PM (BI5O2)

74 What used to be critical thinking is now a skinsuit for the application of critical theory.
And the schools teach it as critical thinking, when it is in fact deconstruction by dialectic.
And they all come out of school mentally ill, on meds, angry, and hundreds of thousands in debt for the "privilege".

Posted by: barbarausa at June 22, 2026 04:00 PM (enw9G)

75 Ranch is one of my least-favorite dressings. Odd that the Euros would be so excited about it.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:00 PM (iFTx/)

76 68 I'm still waiting to see German Spezi show up in the soft-drink aisle at Walmart.

i'm right here, you know

Posted by: orange coke at June 22, 2026 04:00 PM (sGtp+)

77 Better a statue of a dead commie in the square than a live one in office.Oh....

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 04:01 PM (YwEeS)

78 Yeah, … , saw a twywith two pictures from Boston.
The first one was the Haiti fans marching with demands we do more for Haiti, the second was the happy Scots marching with their bagpipes and that they raised $30k for some local charity.


Gee, could it be more obvious?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 04:01 PM (4KUe5)

79
It's like they've been getting their knowledge about it America third-hand from North Korean government or something.
Posted by: Walmart and Target make them swoon

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Effectively, they have. The "or something" is the MSM. Same the world over.

In a few of those videos, the Europeans flat-out say "We were lied to."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 04:01 PM (XJ22o)

80 71 Hating America (under Republicans) is actually the truth. The lie is when they say they like it under a Democrat.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (22ggK)

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"I respected America when Biden was president. I understood that he was trying to fix the situation of the homeless man outside my hotel in New York who kept masturbating on my as I walked past. But I can't respect America under Trump. I drove from Nashville to Chattanooga. Sure, I didn't get accosted by a homeless person, but I feared for my life because I knew that ICE was going to assassinate me the second I fell asleep. I haven't slept in 8 days!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:01 PM (Zn6QU)

81 68 I'm still waiting to see German Spezi show up in the soft-drink aisle at Walmart.

i'm right here, you know
Posted by: orange coke at June 22, 2026 04:00 PM (sGtp+)
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It's not the same...but I may give it a try.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:01 PM (gnNyN)

82 75 Ranch is one of my least-favorite dressings. Odd that the Euros would be so excited about it.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:00 PM (iFTx/)

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They've never had mayonnaise flavored before.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:01 PM (Zn6QU)

83 >>>Ranch is one of my least-favorite dressings. Odd that the Euros would be so excited about it.

It's okay. I don't get why some people love it but it's okay.

Though I get angry if get wings and they include ranch instead of blue cheese. At that point, I do hate ranch.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:01 PM (1wjle)

84 73 Their media only reports the worst.

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 04:02 PM (YwEeS)

85 One of the compelling aspects of the videos I’ve seen are the surprise at the lack of bollards, that products outside of supermarkets are often not locked up—including products Europe would consider very dangerous, and would in fact be dangerous, in Europe.

I don’t think we can emphasize too strongly that this aspect of Europe is where the left wants to lead us today, where terrorism is a right of terrorists, and every part of the landscape is designed with that in mind.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 22, 2026 04:02 PM (kYmoU)

86 70 "If adults have cars to drive and a roof over their heads" [and the insurance required for both]

That's progressively more difficult to do.

but even a caveman can do it!

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 04:02 PM (sGtp+)

87 'Murica, Fuck Yeah!

Now for foreign visitors too.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 22, 2026 04:02 PM (Q/FnY)

88 On the flip side, you don't see many overweight Europeans in those videos.

*shrugs* It is what it is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 04:02 PM (jehhT)

89 I sure hope some of the visitors mosey into an area where individuals can light off some fireworks. I'm guessing that's generally frowned upon at home.

(I'm also thinking they have hit upon the source of our obesity issue... really Olive Garden was the best pasta she's ever had?)

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 22, 2026 04:02 PM (z/ed7)

90 83 It's okay. I don't get why some people love it but it's okay.

Though I get angry if get wings and they include ranch instead of blue cheese. At that point, I do hate ranch.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:01 PM (1wjle)

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I also prefer the blue cheese.

But ranch gets Second Junior to snack on carrots, so it's a net positive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:02 PM (Zn6QU)

91 75 Ranch is one of my least-favorite dressings. Odd that the Euros would be so excited about it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:00 PM (iFTx/)


Same, I don't really like it. I will eat it but I wouldn't choose it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 22, 2026 04:02 PM (fr+Kt)

92 Bleu cheese is too French ace.

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (YwEeS)

93 84 73 Their media only reports the worst.

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 04:02 PM (YwEeS)

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It'd be like if any of us traveled to England and then spent 9/10 of the time outside London.

We'd probably have a great time talking about how nice the people are and how beautiful the countryside is.

Wouldn't be praising the food, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (Zn6QU)

94 75 Ranch is one of my least-favorite dressings.

you know what you never see anymore? french dressing. used to be everyone had it. now all they have is ranch and italian.

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (sGtp+)

95 Blue cheese is ranch with nasty, moldy rotten chunks in it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (2YhKe)

96 Yea. Also, they are travelling to the USA for the first time for a sports game. USA has some of the most popular international destinations in the world. But these people have never been here before. Suggests they aren't part of the affluent classes.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

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The average European thinks that New York City and Los Angeles are a few hours apart by car, and that the only thing to see outside of them is Chicago (maybe Miami).

Their thinking of America is very urban and very centered on the largest urban areas.

Learning that there are countries of people and things to do in between has got to be eye-opening to them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (Zn6QU)
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Yuge European (and Australian) tourism to much more rural USA areas like ski resorts, Yellowstone, Glacier, etc. These are mostly more affluent Euros, though.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:04 PM (iFTx/)

97 6 We're rich, have good tasting food, and are generally kind of happy outside the cities.

But they have public transport and single payer healthcare queues to make them feel better when they get home.

Also, it takes as long to drive across Texas as it does to get halfway across Western Europe.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:46 PM (Zn6QU)

The majority of Americans don't have passports. In 2008, only about 30% of Americans had them - it's gone up significantly since then. Most of the world scoffed at us because of this, wondering why we were so insular. Wouldn't it be great to see the rest of the world?

It is great to see the world. I think this World Cup is showing the world, however, that if we have our little slice of heaven right here, what's the point of going elsewhere?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 04:04 PM (eShkR)

98
I'm...gonna set myself up for massive flaming, but I think a lot of these videos are just people making them because they are popular and will get lots of clicks. Sure, some of them are genuine, but most are "look at this hamburger". I'm pretty sure they have hamburgers in Europe.
Posted by: Archimedes

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Nahh, they could just as easily get clicks by taking video of awful scenes in America and saying "Yup, this place is shit all right." Milk is watery, vegetables are all fiber, coffee is hot water with a brown crayon dipped in it, etc. (Hey, that last sentence is true!)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 04:04 PM (XJ22o)

99 The Chipotle-eating Aussie in the video is welcome to stay. Her and her twin peaks.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 22, 2026 04:04 PM (bNf8H)

100 Thousand Island is the king of dressings.

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 04:05 PM (YwEeS)

101 Ranch is one of my least-favorite dressings. Odd that the Euros would be so excited about it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:00 PM (iFTx/)

Blech, ranch. Blue cheese all the way, extra chunky!!

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 22, 2026 04:05 PM (k9OZB)

102 Also, it takes as long to drive across Texas as it does to get halfway across Western Europe.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:46 PM (Zn6QU)

They really don't get the scope of the US until they get here and travel around. You can cross multiple national borders in Western Yurp in the time it would take you to drive from the southern end of Florida to Pensacola, and that's not including the Keys. It's funny that they think of us as being provincial.

Posted by: It's a big damn country at June 22, 2026 04:05 PM (TbWk/)

103 I'm pretty sure they have hamburgers in Europe"

Well...kinda. Not really. Sorta. It's the blend of meats and the cheeses. And the size. The idea of a mound of tasty food requiring a big mouthful....

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 04:05 PM (XuXeR)

104 85 that products outside of supermarkets are often not locked up—including products Europe would consider very dangerous, and would in fact be dangerous, in Europe.

this is about ranch dressing, isn't it?

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 04:05 PM (sGtp+)

105 Nahh, they could just as easily get clicks by taking video of awful scenes in America and saying "Yup, this place is shit all right." Milk is watery, vegetables are all fiber, coffee is hot water with a brown crayon dipped in it, etc. (Hey, that last sentence is true!)

Fair point.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (Riz8t)

106 If you have kids you know how popular ranch is, gallons and gallons until they graduate high school.

But yeah, it's blue cheese or die if wings are involved.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (n5tGW)

107 95 Blue cheese is ranch with nasty, moldy rotten chunks in it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (2YhKe)

The steakhouse I worked at used to make all their dressings and for some reason they baked a big tray of Roquefort in the oven prior to mixing in with the other ingredients. That was the worst smell I think I've ever had the misfortune of smelling. Indoors.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (fr+Kt)

108 They're hosting World Cup games at Gillette.

I'd like to see videos of Euros there. If they're waxing eloquent about the excellence of Boston, you know they're just farming for clicks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (BI5O2)

109 I count myself very lucky to have lived in America's most prosperous and highest quality-of-life era.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (Jr5Lq)

110 I've been saying it for a few decades now. If a country wants to do something, they need to make it where Americans want to defect to there.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (2YhKe)

111 That's progressively more difficult to do.

but even a caveman can do it!
Posted by: anachronda

You just know there were more than a few serious claims of racism regarding how the cavemen were portrayed.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (ItpVy)

112 100 Thousand Island is the king of dressings.

you'd think that if it rules a thousand islands it would be an emperor.

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (sGtp+)

113 I got a tickle out of one kickball tourist being gobsmacked at the high school football stadium.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (wVcYX)

114 Ranch is one of my least-favorite dressings. Odd that the Euros would be so excited about it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Same, I don't really like it. I will eat it but I wouldn't choose it.
Posted by: CaliGirl
......

We have so many options. They would probably orgasm over some good BBQ sauce.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (UjdFS)

115 We love these Euro-videos. And, also the videos of Japanese fans cleaning their area of a stadium after a game. Those guys rock.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (4nevv)

116 Dems hate it when 100,000 people march through a city cheering and singing, and not a single bus is burned, a single woman raped, or a single store looted.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 04:06 PM (2WIwB)

117 Plenty of fatties in old blighty.

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 04:07 PM (YwEeS)

118 Here in God's country, we can afford more than one salad dressing. My favorites are thousand island, Vidalia onion, honey mustard, and French.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 04:07 PM (ndZc7)

119 97 The majority of Americans don't have passports. In 2008, only about 30% of Americans had them - it's gone up significantly since then. Most of the world scoffed at us because of this, wondering why we were so insular. Wouldn't it be great to see the rest of the world?

It is great to see the world. I think this World Cup is showing the world, however, that if we have our little slice of heaven right here, what's the point of going elsewhere?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 04:04 PM (eShkR)

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Latest I saw was that it's not 51% of Americans who have passports.

But, yeah, we live in a huge country with so much to see and do. There's often little need to go to another country to "see the world". I can live in Florida, go see new mountains in Colorado, old mountains in Virginia, buildings older than what's standing in Vienna by going to New England, housing older than the vast majority of Europe in Arizona, and wilds like they can't believe in Alaska.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:07 PM (Zn6QU)

120
How do you get a sorority girl to suck your dick?

Put ranch on it

Posted by: the dandy at June 22, 2026 04:07 PM (8l8nW)

121 The majority of Americans don't have passports. In 2008, only about 30% of Americans had them - it's gone up significantly since then. Most of the world scoffed at us because of this, wondering why we were so insular. Wouldn't it be great to see the rest of the world?

It is great to see the world. I think this World Cup is showing the world, however, that if we have our little slice of heaven right here, what's the point of going elsewhere?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 04:04 PM (eShkR)

I think because we don't need passports to get to different climates or geographically different areas.

We have mountains, oceans,rivers, beaches,volcanoes, plains, and deserts. I don't think any European nation has the same.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, preparing for The Reckoning at June 22, 2026 04:07 PM (p8HMw)

122 On the subject of ranch dressing, as I said above I'm not a big fan, but try Chic-fil-A branded "Avocado Lime Ranch" dressing. It's really good. Sounds like something dripping out of James Talarico's anus, but it's really good. Can get it in the refrigerated sections of supermarkets.

My fav go-to is ceasar, but this ALR is now in my main rotation.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (iFTx/)

123 Remember the concern lefties have with Americans having so much is because NORMAL Americans have it so good.

They want you to live "sustainably" while they take your tax dollars to fly all over the world to attend global warming seminars...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (sKqQm)

124 I grew up in America. I've felt the same way those Europeans do every day of my life.

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (VJX5o)

125 >>>@22 I saw an internet rumor that TSA had to issue a public statement reminding Euros that bottles of ranch
must be packed in checked luggage, not carry-ons. Too beaucoup ... Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls,
I'm starvin' over here at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (w/O5Q)
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Below is a recipe I posted late in yesterday's Food Thread ... Free free to share it with any and all of your European friends ... Only two challenges I foresee are finding
mayonnaise comparable to Hellman's, and packages of powdered pectic which do not include sugar (might need to shop at health food stores or pharmacies).
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RANCH DRESSING: Hidden Valley clone -- makes 2 cups

1 cup mayonnaise (Hellman's or Duke's, not MiracleWhip)
1 cup store-bought buttermilk* OR
*1 cup whole milk + 1 tsp. cream of tartar
1 tsp. dried parsley
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. ground black pepper
1/4 tsp. garlic powder
1/4 tsp. onion powder
1/8 tsp. dried thyme powder

Combine all ingredients in a bowl ... Stir, chill, then stir again until uniform ... To thicken, gradually add Sure-Jell powdered pectin in 1/8 tsp. increments until the dressing is as thick as you want it to be.

Posted by: Kathy at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (MOK4W)

126 Their thinking of America is very urban and very centered on the largest urban areas.

Learning that there are countries of people and things to do in between has got to be eye-opening to them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (Zn6QU)
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Yep, the fact the put a lot of these matches in middle America and the South is giving the tourists a fresh perspective on the USA and our hospitality.

Posted by: WisRich at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (G0vdT)

127 95 Blue cheese is ranch with nasty, moldy rotten chunks in it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (2YhKe)
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That's another one of those "dare foods". Oh, look. The cheese has mold on it. I dare you to eat that.

This is the common process for about 90% of out current diet. Two drunk guys making bets on whether the other one will eat it. Oysters, clams, Ox tongue, blood pie, sausage.

Every single one of those was a drunk infused dare.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (dIske)

128 I'm pretty sure they have hamburgers in Europe.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 03:59 PM (Riz8t)

Probably not in the 5 lb. chubs though.

Per a German I know, the stores started losing variety of products about 15 years ago, and a lot of the variety of brands, and even then options of the sizes available for the same item.
Stores are also smaller, focused on a single type of food with fewer general stores. Storage is also a thing, so there is a tendency to buy only for the week or a few days.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (rbvCR)

129 99 Which video is the Aussie chick with the twin peaks in? I haven’t got all day.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (77rzZ)

130 Expect many more "journalism" pieces explaining that living in a 500 square foot apartment completely dependent on public transportation and having to wait six months for a "free" doctor's appointment means that you are infinitely richer than an American who lives in a 3000 square foot house on a quarter-acre lot who has to drive ten minutes to a Costco.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (aD4fx)

131 112 100 Thousand Island is the king of dressings.

I invented the One Thousand and One Island dressing!

Posted by: Topper at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (n9eFH)

132 "If adults have cars to drive and a roof over their heads" [and the insurance required for both]

That's progressively more difficult to do.
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026

***
Not for us!
( -- Flo's Bros)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (wzUl9)

133 That was the worst smell I think I've ever had the misfortune of smelling. Indoors.
Posted by: CaliGirl

Nah - Tuxes that were returned on Tuesday afternoon after spending a few days all balled up in the back of the car stewing in sweat, beer, cig and weed smoke, body fluids (men and women's) and rejection.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (ItpVy)

134 I've been expecting the promotion of social media accounts of visitors that aren't having a good time. Can't the media find any?

Posted by: fozzy at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (zH2yS)

135 126
Yep, the fact the put a lot of these matches in middle America and the South is giving the tourists a fresh perspective on the USA and our hospitality.

Posted by: WisRich at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (G0vdT)

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Hopefully some end up at gun ranges and see the ease and comfort some of us Americans have with arms.

As they wish they had some themselves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (Zn6QU)

136 We are truly the most lucky people, being American. Thank you to all those who fought over there in Europe to protect our country.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (4nevv)

137
Every single one of those was a drunk infused dare.
Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (dIske)


Agreed.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (2YhKe)

138 130 Expect many more "journalism" pieces explaining that living in a 500 square foot apartment completely dependent on public transportation and having to wait six months for a "free" doctor's appointment means that you are infinitely richer than an American who lives in a 3000 square foot house on a quarter-acre lot who has to drive ten minutes to a Costco.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (aD4fx)

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"That Costco hot dog will murder you, unlike single payer healthcare."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (Zn6QU)

139 Ranch is one of my least-favorite dressings.

you know what you never see anymore? french dressing. used to be everyone had it. now all they have is ranch and italian.
Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (sGtp+)
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You wanna know why? Because French dressing is crap. I also remember it all over the place back in the day. Then it disappeared. Then I saw it at the supermarket and said "hey, here it is, let me try it!"

Mistake. It was much better as myth.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (iFTx/)

140 Darrell Harris, I’ve seen Europeans on X making that exact point: we used to think you guys we uncultured because so many have never traveled outside the US, but now we get it. You have every possible option here in your giant country, like 50 different cultures, etc., we would never leave, either.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (4KUe5)

141 I've been expecting the promotion of social media accounts of visitors that aren't having a good time. Can't the media find any?
Posted by: fozzy at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (zH2yS)


Those are coming from the people visiting Canada.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (2YhKe)

142 139 Mistake. It was much better as myth.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (iFTx/)

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Like when Ace finally made friends with a crow?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (Zn6QU)

143 Just for a bit of contrast, it's worth rereading the classic James Lileks piece on a Brit reporter at Olive Garden. It's hilarious.

https://blogrecord.blogspot.com/2002_02_24_archive.html

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:11 PM (Riz8t)

144 "The Atlantic" is an embarrassment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 04:11 PM (7RYym)

145 The woman who said that Olive Garden's Fettuccine Alfredo was the best pasta she'd ever had in her life... so sad.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:11 PM (ExV1e)

146 104 85 that products outside of supermarkets are often not locked up—including products Europe would consider very dangerous, and would in fact be dangerous, in Europe.


Propane and propane accessories?

Otherwise I'm not sure what you can do with wiper fluid other than poison dogs ... so, maybe, yeah that would be dangerous in Europe

Posted by: the dandy at June 22, 2026 04:11 PM (8l8nW)

147 Great story break. Thanks ace.

Go USA soccer team. I just want them to win while President Trump is in office. Spread the joy.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 22, 2026 04:11 PM (Sco7b)

148 Ranch dressing is proof that people are stupid and have the palate of a 6 year old. See also, tattoos and wearing their ball caps backwards.

Posted by: Adulting Is Hard Work at June 22, 2026 04:11 PM (9gT2V)

149
>>>That's another one of those "dare foods". Oh, look. The cheese has mold on it. I dare you to eat that.

all cheese has mold on it.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:11 PM (1wjle)

150
Nah - Tuxes that were returned on Tuesday afternoon after spending a few days all balled up in the back of the car stewing in sweat, beer, cig and weed smoke, body fluids (men and women's) and rejection.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM

Okay that's awful and no thank you.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (fr+Kt)

151 Bleu cheese is too French ace.
Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (YwEeS)

I always ask for the Fromage blue

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (rbvCR)

152 RANCH DRESSING ... I suspect many of the Europeans raving about ranch dressing were introduced to it via buffalo wings, rather than salads.

Posted by: Kathy at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (MOK4W)

153 Mistake. It was much better as myth.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (iFTx/)

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Like when Ace finally made friends with a crow?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (Zn6QU)
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Yea, I continue to believe it ain't a great idea to actively encourage crows to seek you out.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (iFTx/)

154 I tried ranch Doritos once.

Took me a while to get over it. Until I had some regular Doritos, that is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (wzUl9)

155 63 "We have roads wide enough for the cars we actually drive."

I took a trip with my family via cruise to Greece and Turkey.

i lived in italy about '75. fiat 500s everywhere. we lived on a one-way street, but the italians didn't care; the 500s could zip past each other with room to spare. and then we'd take up the whole road with our oldsmobile vista cruiser and they'd get upset.

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (sGtp+)

156 >>>
You wanna know why? Because French dressing is crap. I also remember it all over the place back in the day. Then it disappeared. Then I saw it at the supermarket and said "hey, here it is, let me try it!"

i loved french dressing as a kid because it's practically just sugar. It turns salad into a dessert.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (1wjle)

157 This is the common process for about 90% of out current diet. Two drunk guys making bets on whether the other one will eat it. Oysters, clams, Ox tongue, blood pie, sausage.

Every single one of those was a drunk infused dare.
Posted by: Orson

Consider the first guy that drank goat's milk.

[X] Perv
[ ] Not Perv

Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2026 04:13 PM (ItpVy)

158 you know what you never see anymore? french dressing. used to be everyone had it. now all they have is ranch and italian.
Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (sGtp+)[/]

It is the work of Big Mayonnaise. Operation Best.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2026 04:13 PM (rbvCR)

159 "You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 salad dressings when children are hungry in this country."

Posted by: Bernie Sanders, Socialist - VT at June 22, 2026 04:13 PM (wVcYX)

160 Stores are also smaller, focused on a single type of food with fewer general stores. Storage is also a thing, so there is a tendency to buy only for the week or a few days.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2026 04:08 PM (rbvCR)
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Yep.

They have tiny fridges in small apartments over there. Just isn't a lot of room to store vast quantities of food in a pantry/fridge/freezer.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:13 PM (gnNyN)

161 145 The woman who said that Olive Garden's Fettuccine Alfredo was the best pasta she'd ever had in her life... so sad.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:11 PM (ExV1e)

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There's a small restaurant in Trastevere in Rome that I made sure we went back to when I took the family to Italy last year.

Their signature dish is Rigatoni Democratici (it's how I google the place, I can never remember the restaurant's actual name).

I'd eaten it a couple of times when I lived there 16 years ago, and I'd always loved it. Took the family there, and I definitely got it again. Still a banger of a dish.

Italy makes good food in just random restaurants. The rest? I'm always...whelmed. German sausages? Fine. English breakfasts? Okay. Anything in France outside fancy restaurants? Essentially middling peasant food.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:14 PM (Zn6QU)

162 I'm glad all these tourists are spending lots of money at our local establishments.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 04:14 PM (UjdFS)

163 World cup tourists in America celebrating the things we utterly take for granted has been my fave content. White pilled me beyond belief.

Many have been noting that the propaganda arm of the world and American media — Americans are terrible and their country is dangerous and trash and you should avoid them — is crumbling. Too many people came here and saw it with their own eyes. What has seen, in person and then on X/TikTok, cannot be unseen. Can't stop the signal.

It also shows us the freedoms and abundance we need to preserve and defend at all costs!

As a plus, the Canadians have been acting the way Europeans THOUGHT we would behave — surly, unfriendly, stingy. (Sorry Canadian Morons! But I'm getting schadenfreude from it.)

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 04:14 PM (gWBY1)

164 We have mountains, oceans,rivers, beaches,volcanoes, plains, and deserts. I don't think any European nation has the same.

My wife used to say you could see all the things in the US in Iceland, but in a single island. Maybe not a tropical or subtropical climate. Unless you're a friend of Jules Verne's.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:14 PM (Riz8t)

165 79
It's like they've been getting their knowledge about it America third-hand from North Korean government or something.
Posted by: Walmart and Target make them swoon

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Effectively, they have. The "or something" is the MSM. Same the world over.

In a few of those videos, the Europeans flat-out say "We were lied to."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 04:01 PM (XJ22o)

Keep that up and we'll tell the Bobbies you committed a racism.

Posted by: BBC - we're not just a PornHub category! at June 22, 2026 04:14 PM (w/O5Q)

166 I tried ranch Doritos once.

Took me a while to get over it. Until I had some regular Doritos, that is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (wzUl9)
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Worst. Doritos. Ever.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:14 PM (gnNyN)

167 74 What used to be critical thinking is now a skinsuit for the application of critical theory.
And the schools teach it as critical thinking, when it is in fact deconstruction by dialectic.
And they all come out of school mentally ill, on meds, angry, and hundreds of thousands in debt for the "privilege".

Posted by: barbarausa at June 22, 2026 04:00 PM (enw9G)

Worth repeating.

Hell, it's worth framing.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 04:14 PM (22ggK)

168 Speaking of Doritos: Wasn't there once a snack chip from Frito-Lay called "Fiesta," later replaced by Doritos? Because for some reason, the word "fiesta," whether applied to a Latin American celebration or to a compact Ford, makes me think of corn chips.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (wzUl9)

169 On Reddit they’re still convinced the stadiums are empty because Trump and ICE are arresting foreigners. Even though virtually every game, even between no name teams, are sell outs.

They live in their own make believe world.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (YO3Ap)

170 158 you know what you never see anymore? french dressing. used to be everyone had it. now all they have is ranch and italian.
Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (sGtp+)[/]

It is the work of Big Mayonnaise. Operation Best.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2026 04:13 PM (rbvCR)

I'm just happy to see Russian back in the stores. Getting rid of that was characteristically Canadian level retarded.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (Sco7b)

171 This is one of the things I can't stand about snotty liberals who travel elsewhere and then endlessly lecture, nose in air, about how superior everywhere they parked their scrawny asses for 15 minutes is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That might fly for a lot of Americans who haven't traveled. For those of us who have, we know better, and know that you do, too, and that's why you're sniffing your own farts in the Acela Corridor instead of the 4th Arrondissemente de Paris.

All of it ranges somewhere between "broadly acceptable, strictly speaking" to "9th ring of Hell." None of it exceeds us, setting aside our horrible megacities.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (BI5O2)

172 166 I tried ranch Doritos once.

Took me a while to get over it. Until I had some regular Doritos, that is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (wzUl9)
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Worst. Doritos. Ever.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:14 PM (gnNyN)

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Not liking Cool Ranch Doritos?

Who are you people? Communists?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (Zn6QU)

173 I liked the videos

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (Ia/+0)

174 Which video is the Aussie chick with the twin peaks in? I haven’t got all day."

Last one. And worth it.

Yowza

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (XuXeR)

175 I took a trip with my family via cruise to Greece and Turkey. We spent some time in Athens before we left. Apparently a "3 lane" highway in Athens is really a 5-land highway with the cycles using the white lines as their own lanes.
Posted by: Thrawn at June 22, 2026 03:58 PM (KKMoa)

I thought traffic in Rome was bad, until... I went to Athens. Maybe it's recency bias. At least they drive fast in Rome.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (QaH55)

176 I had a pretty good burger in Europe a few years back. It was sort of like an In and Out burger. The Chef had been in the US for a while where he learned to cook but they were interested in my take.

Supposedly this was THE best burger in the city I was in and honestly I make better ones.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:16 PM (sKqQm)

177 Critical Theory as Critical Thought is a wild assertion. And a bullseye.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 04:16 PM (22ggK)

178 You wanna know why? Because French dressing is crap. I also remember it all over the place back in the day. Then it disappeared. Then I saw it at the supermarket and said "hey, here it is, let me try it!"

i loved french dressing as a kid because it's practically just sugar. It turns salad into a dessert.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (1wjle)
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Yea, that and thousand island. My tastes have changed a lot since I was a kid. I used to hate Bleu Cheese dressing, while my dad always got it. Now I like BC, but it has to be the "fresh" BC you get in the refrigerated section. Not the chalky paste from the normal "condiment" aisle that has a sell-by date of July 7, 2057.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:16 PM (iFTx/)

179 While all these Brits are over in the US having their eyes opened, Nick Freitas is over in the UK busting on them in every video he posts....It's funny.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 04:16 PM (dIske)

180 Not liking Cool Ranch Doritos?

Who are you people? Communists?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (Zn6QU)
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Communists invented Cool Ranch Doritos.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:16 PM (gnNyN)

181 "Of all the many foreigners I've met abroad, the English have the most grossly distorted view of our country, oddly enough."

Not so sure about that. I met several Brits at the airport going home after the Masters, and they all raved about the US and lamented how the UK has fallen.

I love these Euros enjoying America too, but what I love even more is how hospitable the Americans have been to them. This happens when you're not in New York City with its teeming hordes of predatory foreigners and passive aggressive assholes. I was in Ireland once and thought the Irish people were some of the warmest, friendliest people I had ever met. It makes me proud to see us Yanks return the favor.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 22, 2026 04:16 PM (xnH3S)

182
Not liking Cool Ranch Doritos?

Who are you people? Communists?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:15

I don't like Doritos. I've never had any of the flavored Doritos.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 22, 2026 04:17 PM (fr+Kt)

183
180 Not liking Cool Ranch Doritos?

Who are you people? Communists?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (Zn6QU)
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Communists invented Cool Ranch Doritos.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:16 PM (gnNyN)

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This is obviously untrue. Communists only make tasteless, bland things like shredded wheat.

Well, communists or the British. Hard to keep track sometimes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:17 PM (Zn6QU)

184 The people will demand Barbeque and Buc-Ee's when they return to Europe.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (2YhKe)

Can't have BBQ in Europe. Even assuming that they'd permit a smoker, the pitmaster would be required to go on government mandated time off before the briskets were done. And, if they did anything other than Texas BBQ, the muslims would riot.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:17 PM (ExV1e)

185 People are noticing this content because of the World Cup, but videos of foreign visitors discovering the pleasures of America have been popular on YouTube for years. There are influencers who dedicate half their lives to traveling around the U.S. and enjoying the wonders of barbecue, In-N-Out, Walmart, Costco and American hospitality. (And marveling at our nation's sheer size and diversity.)

It's all good fun, and millions of people were watching these videos before anyone started calling them "political."

Posted by: TR at June 22, 2026 04:17 PM (hazdd)

186 I H8 Cool Ranch Duritos until have 1 chip, then the bag is gone. Then I really H8 them

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:17 PM (Ia/+0)

187 I think Queer Stalin resigned.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:18 PM (sasms)

188 I don't like Doritos. I've never had any of the flavored Doritos.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 22, 2026 04:17 PM (fr+Kt)

Aren't they all flavored?

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 22, 2026 04:18 PM (QaH55)

189 Propane and propane accessories?

I believe that was one of the items mentioned, but I didn’t feel like tracking down the video.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 22, 2026 04:18 PM (kYmoU)

190 Discovered Lay's Pickle chips. Those get a "more, please"

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 04:18 PM (n5tGW)

191 Glad you Euros are enjoying liberty and capitalism. Now pack up your sissy foreign kickball and Birkenstoks and go home to your gulag.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 22, 2026 04:18 PM (wBaIH)

192 Fight for your birthright, European, Australians, Asians. Stop being serfs.

You don't have to live like a refugee. Tom Petty gave you permission to rise up and take what is ypurs.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 04:18 PM (dK+Kv)

193 112 100 Thousand Island is the king of dressings.

I invented the One Thousand and One Island dressing!
Posted by: Topper at June 22, 2026 04:09 PM (n9eFH)

Anyone for Infinity Island salad dressing?

Posted by: Zombie Stan Lee at June 22, 2026 04:19 PM (wVcYX)

194 81 "Of all the many foreigners I've met abroad, the English have the most grossly distorted view of our country, oddly enough."

My BIL and sister have seen more of the U.S. than I have and they rave about it. He is particularly interested in the American West

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 04:19 PM (7RYym)

195 Also, will someone PLEASE tell europeans they can buy ranch in PACKETS! Take it home in powder form, with all the herbs, and add your own buttermilk or milk or whatever.

But yeah, we drink our milk and Arizona tea by the gallon, over here and I love seeing them crash out over it. Wholesomest content besides the sweet animals on the cafe threads, bar none.

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 04:19 PM (gWBY1)

196 191 Glad you Euros are enjoying liberty and capitalism. Now pack up your sissy foreign kickball and Birkenstoks and go home to your gulag.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 22, 2026 04:18 PM (wBaIH)

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I want to live in a universe where some European chud's first taste of Ranch dressing is the first domino in some kind of massive populist revolution in Europe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:19 PM (Zn6QU)

197 It may have changed, but when I was in Germany, the food was laughably bad, except for extremely expensive restaurants.

My favorite was a fairly fancy """Chinese""" restaurant in Berlin. It had glass floors with a fredhwater aquarium underneath, and pork lo mein with bratwurst in it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:19 PM (BI5O2)

198 The USA is always ready to give asylum to women with big ol titties.God Bless America.

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 04:19 PM (YwEeS)

199 Madison may have shit taste in movies but he knows his snacks. Cool Ranch is gold.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 04:19 PM (22ggK)

200
Italy makes good food in just random restaurants. The rest? I'm always...whelmed. German sausages? Fine. English breakfasts? Okay. Anything in France outside fancy restaurants? Essentially middling peasant food.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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Italy has good food at their highest rest areas

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 22, 2026 04:20 PM (uH26z)

201 Videos were nice. Good to see something positive for a change.

Really glad to see that thots have finally got a new venue and subject to get their funbags out there on display.

"I like Chipotle, and whoopsie my mams are falling out..."

Come on girls, you aint foolin nobody.
GD I'm getting old.

I'm at peace with it. I'll allow it.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 04:20 PM (vWPIR)

202 You wanna know why? Because French dressing is crap. I also remember it all over the place back in the day. Then it disappeared. Then I saw it at the supermarket and said "hey, here it is, let me try it!"

i loved french dressing as a kid because it's practically just sugar. It turns salad into a dessert.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:12 PM (1wjle)
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Plenty of it available where I am. Have to be about 6 or 7 different brands. I don't use it on salads. I baste chicken with it...when I grill.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 04:20 PM (dIske)

203 Oops. Old news.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:20 PM (sasms)

204 * throws note in the door* I like ranch dressing

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 04:20 PM (afJtY)

205 This is obviously untrue. Communists only make tasteless, bland things like shredded wheat.

Is next. Gruel. Vyery nice.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:20 PM (Riz8t)

206 >>Which video is the Aussie chick with the twin peaks in? I haven’t got all day.
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Last video at :40.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 22, 2026 04:20 PM (bNf8H)

207 How could Boston run out of beer? It even sounds strange to say it.
Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (IY9No)

How? An Irishman has a hollow leg. A Scotsman has two.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (QkytP)

208 Europe sucks.

Posted by: ballistic at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (oqH4h)

209 I have been watching these videos the past couple weeks like it's my JOB. I am living for this.

My son was just up in Boston visiting his sister and he rode in on a train with Scots and he said they are just like the videos you've been seeing. They are truly all over Boston. Such fun.

Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (afFes)

210 I thought traffic in Rome was bad, until... I went to Athens. Maybe it's recency bias. At least they drive fast in Rome."

The old east. Yikes. Ladas everywhere...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (XuXeR)

211 Wait until Europeons finally get to visit Wakanda. They'll forget all about us.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (vWPIR)

212 sissy foreign kickball

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 22, 2026 04:18 PM (wBaIH)

Football. It's FOOTBALL. The one and only. Gonna get all my rowdy friends to come watch some.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (22ggK)

213 I've always wanted to see England and Scotland. Of course, that was before their current enslavement by the Mozzies.

Australia and New Zealand were next on my list. Then they bowed and scraped before the WuFlu hoax. Imagine if you'd been trapped there on a vacation in 2020-21.

There are really no other foreign countries I'd like to see enough to spend the money. Individual points of interest, yes, like Antarctica and the southern tips of South America and Africa, and the part of Saskatchewan where my mother grew up. But seeing those would require going to the countries they are in.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (wzUl9)

214 America has the best food in the world because we took all the best things from elsewhere and perfected it here.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (sKqQm)

215 Tourists are bringing back ranch dressing as a souvenir ??
OK, fine..as long as they are going back.
Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (GD0B3)

I'd rather have a lot of these tourists as my fellow countrymen than at least a third of those I'm actually stuck with.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (ExV1e)

216 Glad you Euros are enjoying liberty and capitalism. Now pack up your sissy foreign kickball and Birkenstoks and go home to your gulag.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
.......

I have a feeling some of them may be "missing their flights".

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 04:22 PM (UjdFS)

217 There's two sisters that defected from North Korea that travel the US and record their impressions on Youtube. Sweet gals. They had to leave a sister behind, so tragic. But I'm glad they got free.

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 04:22 PM (gWBY1)

218 I like they are enjoying their time here.
I saw one saying the washing machine isn’t in the kitchen as usual in Europe but has its own room and there is a huge washer and dryer!
The crowds marching and singing with no violence has been a delight to see.
Love the left is losing it- what a bunch of sour people.

Posted by: Hyacinth at June 22, 2026 04:22 PM (/2pqF)

219 i loved french dressing as a kid because it's practically just sugar.
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Most cheap dressings have high fructose corn syrup as one of the lead ingredients. If you don't mind spending a bit more you can find better.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 04:22 PM (Dv3i1)

220 is the common process for about 90% of out current diet. Two drunk guys making bets on whether the other one will eat it. Oysters, clams, Ox tongue, blood pie, sausage.

Every single one of those was a drunk infused dare.
Posted by: Orson

That would explain jellied eels.

Posted by: putting the UK in YUCK at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (TbWk/)

221 218 I like they are enjoying their time here.
I saw one saying the washing machine isn’t in the kitchen as usual in Europe but has its own room and there is a huge washer and dryer!
The crowds marching and singing with no violence has been a delight to see.
Love the left is losing it- what a bunch of sour people.

Posted by: Hyacinth at June 22, 2026 04:22 PM (/2pqF)

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Washers in Europe are...awful.

Like, I don't know how they exist as technology they're so bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (Zn6QU)

222 English breakfasts? Okay."

Hey, who doesn't want canned beans at breakfast?

Frankly, no.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (XuXeR)

223 140 Darrell Harris, I’ve seen Europeans on X making that exact point: we used to think you guys we uncultured because so many have never traveled outside the US, but now we get it. You have every possible option here in your giant country, like 50 different cultures, etc., we would never leave, either.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 04:10 PM (4KUe5)

Yup - and (pretty much) everyone speaks the same language, to boot. Why leave?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (eShkR)

224 My older brother, and expert in French cuisine, flatly states that Northern Italy is better at cooking, period, end of story. I barely visited France, so I can't say. But Italy is a real good place if you wanna get as fat as a pig and really enjoy doing it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (BI5O2)

225 delighting in America's unique cuisine (such as barbecue

There was one of a Japanese kid eating a rib that, with the meat, was the size of a forearm. After one bite, couldn't believe how well his life had just turned out.

Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (ReYtg)

226 My DiL's mom visited from Tokyo. She fell hard for Wegman's.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (wBaIH)

227 Supposedly this was THE best burger in the city I was in and honestly I make better ones.
Posted by: 18-1

I’m No bbq savant or anything. But I’d say the burgers I make at home are better than 75% of any restaurant burgers I’ve had.

Burgers aren’t hard. The key is ingredients. And most restaurants these days bit cheap shit from Sysco.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (YO3Ap)

228 America has the best food in the world because we took all the best things from elsewhere and perfected it here.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (sKqQm)
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We also are curious enough to combine flavors from other cultures just to see what would happen.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (gnNyN)

229 Somebody needs to get these folks some Sweet Baby Ray's. I don't gas about the soccer but I've spent hours enjoying their reactions to our country and, especially, our cuisine. But I remember the first time I had the Sweet Baby Ray's - in my 60s!! - and it was a revelation.

Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (7MXBW)

230 >>> We have mountains, oceans,rivers, beaches,volcanoes, plains, and deserts. I don't think any European nation has the same.

It has been pointed out they make fun of us for not having passports. Why get a passport when you can see so much in one country? You don't HAVE To leave here to see the beauty of the world.

We are beyond spoiled here. Very blessed, always.

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (gWBY1)

231 180 Not liking Cool Ranch Doritos?

Who are you people? Communists?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:15 PM (Zn6QU)
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Communists invented Cool Ranch Doritos.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:16 PM (gnNyN)

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This is obviously untrue. Communists only make tasteless, bland things like shredded wheat.

Well, communists or the British. Hard to keep track sometimes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:17 PM (Zn6QU)

Who made rice cakes?

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (wVcYX)

232 My understanding was the Engels supported this piece of shit for years. What a world.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (fkjGs)

233 How could Boston run out of beer? It even sounds strange to say it.

They stocked up on Zima expecting Euros to not like beer.

And the Euros are gay...but not Zima gay

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:24 PM (sKqQm)

234 222 English breakfasts? Okay."

Hey, who doesn't want canned beans at breakfast?

Frankly, no.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (XuXeR)

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It's odd, but it's fine. It's the fact that no one gives any care to the food itself that really hurts.

I mean, the average cook at Waffle House puts more care into making the bacon than anyone in England gives to a sausage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:24 PM (Zn6QU)

235 Madison may have shit taste in movies but he knows his snacks. Cool Ranch is gold.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 04:19 PM (22ggK)

I found the chink in your armor.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 04:24 PM (dK+Kv)

236

Not me this time.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:24 PM (1wjle)

237 Freaking Italics.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:24 PM (sasms)

238 Really glad to see that thots have finally got a new venue and subject to get their funbags out there on display.

"I like Chipotle, and whoopsie my mams are falling out..."

Come on girls, you aint foolin nobody.

Too subtle?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:24 PM (Riz8t)

239 Not me with an open tag this time... /fewwwwwww

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:24 PM (sKqQm)

240 224 My older brother, and expert in French cuisine, flatly states that Northern Italy is better at cooking, period, end of story. I barely visited France, so I can't say. But Italy is a real good place if you wanna get as fat as a pig and really enjoy doing it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (BI5O2)

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Northern Italy could make me fall in love with polenta.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:25 PM (Zn6QU)

241 Chipotle + boobs > Chipotle

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:25 PM (sKqQm)

242 It's nice that the Traveling Euros are surprised and delighted at all things American. But the spell will be broken if they visit any of our world famous urban shitholes.

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 04:25 PM (vu/LI)

243 Cool Ranch Doritos are actually better than ranch.

Some of you are on dope.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:25 PM (2YhKe)

244 I always found it funny with the Yellow School Busses, they really thought it was just a movie thing and not real.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2026 04:25 PM (zMUto)

245 217 There's two sisters that defected from North Korea that travel the US and record their impressions on Youtube. Sweet gals. They had to leave a sister behind, so tragic. But I'm glad they got free.
Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 04:22 PM (gWBY1)
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I think I stumbled across one of their videos. Two Koreans that hardly speak English using their phone translator to ask a firefighter in New Orleans if they could tour their facility...and the dude gave them the royal tour and gave them a challenge medal before they left.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 04:25 PM (dIske)

246 Liberals are miserable because their entire worldview is fake and demonstrably untruthful. It’s why they want to control every ounce of information you digest, every liberty you can experience and the government, so they can coerce and force you to live their lives.

The truth is always peeking around the corner. They can’t hide from it and every time it rears its head it’s a reminder of their lies, failures l, vulnerability and mendacity. It’s the thing under the bed, and their worst dreams all rolled into one big pile of the truth coming straight at them.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 22, 2026 04:25 PM (h9A1n)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:26 PM (wzUl9)

248 Just came back from trip to Vienna (with side trip to Bratislava), Budapest and one other capital city that is in a country that borders on both Austria and Hungary. But I won't name it because it is so awesome I don't want it to be overrun (even by such fine people as yourselves). Food was fantastic everywhere.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 04:26 PM (Dv3i1)

249 I saw one saying the washing machine isn’t in the kitchen as usual in Europe but has its own room and there is a huge washer and dryer!"

The most amazing thing to our friends' Brit relatives was... that we have twin 50 gallon water heaters. I thought the guy was gonna stroke out over that. And then they found out it was actually hot...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 04:26 PM (XuXeR)

250 207 How could Boston run out of beer? It even sounds strange to say it.
Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (IY9No)

How? An Irishman has a hollow leg. A Scotsman has two.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (QkytP)

The NY Post this weekend had an article about how Boston could see a baby boom in 9 months, because of all the Scots who showed up in local bars over there. Little William Wallaces hoovering up all the single lasses. What the heck are the hometown boys doing over there?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 04:26 PM (eShkR)

251 2pqF)

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Washers in Europe are...awful.

Like, I don't know how they exist as technology they're so bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:23 PM (Zn6QU)


Our kids lived in Europe and I watched the little ones while parents went on a trip. The combo washer dryer was terrible. They didn’t have a place to line dry things and no idea how many cycles to dry anything! They did have a small heated towel rack which also became a dryer. Normal US family wouldnt last with euro sized laundry machines. But that is what the left wants for us.

Posted by: Hyacinth at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (/2pqF)

252 Here we are, mere weeks before our 250th July 4th, and Europeans parading through our bars, our stores, and our eateries is the greatest, most unexpected celebration of this country that no one ever imagined..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (nbLIj)

253 I suspect the reason the leftists hate it is because it's mostly whites and the japanese that are having a great time. They prefer the SA criminals and those living on the streets as our visitors.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (n5tGW)

254
Ranch is one of my least-favorite dressings.

you know what you never see anymore? french dressing. used to be everyone had it. now all they have is ranch and italian.
Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 04:03 PM (sGtp+)



I usually stick with vinegar and oil. But I really have to watch myself to avoid ordering "vinegar and water".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (y9nCu)

255 Just came back from trip to Vienna (with side trip to Bratislava), Budapest and one other capital city that is in a country that borders on both Austria and Hungary

What do you think of Wiener schnitzell?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (sKqQm)

256
I mean, the average cook at Waffle House puts more care into making the bacon than anyone in England gives to a sausage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:24 PM (Zn6QU)

If you haven't, check out Kay's Cooking on YT.

It's a shoo-in for the next streaming-based big screen horror movie.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (BI5O2)

257 I never cared much for Europeans. They are just so, I don't know, foreign. And they talk funny. It's bad enough going to New England. Now I don't mind going to Mexico cause I can habla some Espanol.

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (IY9No)

258 Armie's movie Citizen Vigilante is looking good, didn't realize it's been banned in parts of Europe.

paseq
@xpaseqx
·
20h
Most savage moment in the entire movie:

“The laws are meant to protect the victims… not the perpetrators.”

Then he looks the judge who let six boys walk after gang-raping a 14-year-old in the eyes and says:

“You are the cancer that is killing society.”

This clip is why Citizen Vigilante was banned in parts of Europe.

Too close to the truth?

Posted by: beckster at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (kX27y)

259 First summer weekend in Chicago:

6 dead, 39 wounded.

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (vu/LI)

260 Also, did we get confirmation that Mannix is older than YD?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (Zn6QU)

261 Who made rice cakes?"

Grape nuts...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 04:28 PM (XuXeR)

262 I wonder if these tourists are embracing the age old American tradition of trashing rental cars.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 04:28 PM (UjdFS)

263 America has the best food in the world because we took all the best things from elsewhere and perfected it here.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (sKqQm)
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We also are curious enough to combine flavors from other cultures just to see what would happen.

What other country would produce deep-fried Mars bars?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:28 PM (Riz8t)

264 The NY Post this weekend had an article about how Boston could see a baby boom in 9 months, because of all the Scots who showed up in local bars over there. Little William Wallaces hoovering up all the single lasses. What the heck are the hometown boys doing over there?

Its the gay state. Unless a bunch of those scottish girls brought turkey basters there will not be a baby boom

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:28 PM (sKqQm)

265 Legalinsurrection.com has a article up on this as well, very nice blonde yound lady says she could be a American, sure a young guy could make that happen if she wants to.

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:28 PM (Ia/+0)

266 256 If you haven't, check out Kay's Cooking on YT.

It's a shoo-in for the next streaming-based big screen horror movie.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (BI5O2)

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*weeps at her subscriber count*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:28 PM (Zn6QU)

267
I mean, the average cook at Waffle House puts more care into making the bacon than anyone in England gives to a sausage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026

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Ian Fleming had Bond tell M that "the best English cooking is the best in the world, especially at this time of year" (spring, I think it was; in a club scene in Moonraker).

On the other hand, that was seventy years ago.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (wzUl9)

268 What I hate about Europe is paying to use the bathroom, reststop or even when we were at an amusement park you had to pay 1 euro to use it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (zMUto)

269 252 Here we are, mere weeks before our 250th July 4th, and Europeans parading through our bars, our stores, and our eateries is the greatest, most unexpected celebration of this country that no one ever imagined..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (nbLIj)

That's my favorite part of it!!!

Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (7MXBW)

270 wow, thanks ellipsis!
I do repeat it.
It has resulted in the inversion of Maslow, and it is the weak men creating hard times.

Posted by: barbarausa at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (enw9G)

271 248 Just came back from trip to Vienna (with side trip to Bratislava), Budapest and one other capital city that is in a country that borders on both Austria and Hungary. But I won't name it because it is so awesome I don't want it to be overrun (even by such fine people as yourselves). Food was fantastic everywhere.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 04:26 PM (Dv3i1)
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I did Innsbruk last year. Ended up staying at a place that was only accessible via cable car, and stayed about 8,000 feet up in the Alps. Lot's of Edelweiss pale ale (which still had the barley floating around in it)....and the disturbing taxidermy practices of Autrians. Antlers on a squirrel is distrubing.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (dIske)

272 What other country would produce deep-fried Mars bars?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:28 PM (Riz8t)
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We deep-fry bacon (and other things) at the TXMOME just because we can.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (gnNyN)

273 Guys, I have to share how much I'm enjoying the way that WordWeb added a little discreet (and discrete) AI.

"AI suggestions:
This is a slang term, likely a misspelling of *fugazi*, which means something fake, counterfeit, or phony."

If you're not familiar, WordWeb is a handy lightweight dictionary/thesaurus app where you don't have open a browser (or switch tabs if you're in one), just highlight a word and ctrl-alt-w (or ctrl-right-click) and up it pops. They had already added a Wiktionary tab, which I use all the time, for richer details than the built-in database can provide. But now it can handle foreign words and slang at the first glance!

https://wordweb.info/free/

Posted by: SciVo at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (Sy6m/)

274 Yeah that Boston running out of beer thing sounds bullshit. There are a few thousand Scot fans in a Metro metro area of 5M people with 60 colleges for crying out loud and a place that has a ton of tourists all the time.

Makes for a fun story but yeah I call bullshit.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (YO3Ap)

275 267 Ian Fleming had Bond tell M that "the best English cooking is the best in the world, especially at this time of year" (spring, I think it was; in a club scene in Moonraker).

On the other hand, that was seventy years ago.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (wzUl9)

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Loyalty to his tribe. Have to admire it.

Even if it leads him to such idiotic assertions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (Zn6QU)

276 mere weeks before our 250th July 4th, and Europeans parading through our bars, our stores, and our eateries is the greatest, most unexpected celebration of this country that no one ever imagined"

"Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations"

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 04:30 PM (XuXeR)

277 Arkansas gas station deep fryer food. Casey's pizza. The things you can't get in the Benelux.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 22, 2026 04:30 PM (gm9Sb)

278
Makes for a fun story but yeah I call bullshit.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (YO3Ap)


Shocking largely no one.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:30 PM (2YhKe)

279 How could Boston run out of beer? It even sounds strange to say it.
Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (IY9No)

How? An Irishman has a hollow leg. A Scotsman has two.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2026 04:21 PM (QkytP)

The NY Post this weekend had an article about how Boston could see a baby boom in 9 months, because of all the Scots who showed up in local bars over there. Little William Wallaces hoovering up all the single lasses. What the heck are the hometown boys doing over there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 04:26 PM (eShkR)
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I'm pretty sure if one drunken scotsman fucks another drunken scotsman, a baby won't result.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:30 PM (iFTx/)

280 I find it hilarious. These Euros and Brits (back the day, the Brits NEVER considered themselves European) love America. Costco, Buc-ees, etc. How friendly we are to strangers.

The Atlantic was always Commie propaganda organ.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 04:30 PM (qFwJc)

281 272 What other country would produce deep-fried Mars bars?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:28 PM (Riz8t)
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We deep-fry bacon (and other things) at the TXMOME just because we can.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (gnNyN)

Terducken.

Why? Why not, that's why.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 04:31 PM (eShkR)

282 I liked the YT of Brit school-boy lads trying biscuits and (sausage) gravy.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 04:31 PM (wVcYX)

283 What do you think of Wiener schnitzell?
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I had Figlemuller's and Dom Schnitzel. Each was perfection. Bonus was the potato salad with pumpkin oil and lingonberries on the side.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 04:31 PM (Dv3i1)

284 If they're waxing eloquent about the excellence of Boston, you know they're just farming for clicks.

They drank the city out of beer. They were in an alcoholic haze the whole time.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:31 PM (ExV1e)

285 What I hate about Europe is paying to use the bathroom, reststop or even when we were at an amusement park you had to pay 1 euro to use it.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2026

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I last saw a pay toilet in America at a mall in 1967.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:31 PM (wzUl9)

286 Notthebee had a story about reduced auto breaking in Oakland costing jobs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:31 PM (sasms)

287 274 Yeah that Boston running out of beer thing sounds bullshit. There are a few thousand Scot fans in a Metro metro area of 5M people with 60 colleges for crying out loud and a place that has a ton of tourists all the time.

Makes for a fun story but yeah I call bullshit.
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (YO3Ap)

They didn't run out... They still had Bud Lite...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 04:31 PM (afi9t)

288 Makes you feel proud, doesn't it?

We take so much for granted and these UK and Europeans act as if Costco was a museum or historical artifact!

The one couple I've seen, James and Siana (he's the bearded guy with muscles and she's the gorgeous blonde from London) started this love of the USA in the past year on their youtube. Have visited over 20 states. Invited by a Southern family for Thanksgiving, which blew their minds and included hunting. They are trying to come to America to live.

The shock of someone, a stranger, saying hello. Sort of sad, as I thought this normal.

Why can't these people invade illegally and we deport the Somolians and those who rip us off and rape our women?

I want to keep these people as they love the USA.

Good for Justine to call out the bs. Thanks, Ace.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (hzuYO)

289 259 First summer weekend in Chicago:

6 dead, 39 wounded.

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (vu/LI)

You left out the part where it was at their Juneteenth celebration.

Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (7MXBW)

290 286 Notthebee had a story about reduced auto breaking in Oakland costing jobs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:31 PM (sasms)

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"THIS IS NOT WHY I WROTE!"
-Frederic Bastiat

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (Zn6QU)

291 Yes, Peaches. I too have an affinity for Sweet Baby Ray's.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (n5tGW)

292 One thing that surprised me about France is their love for Nutella. Never would have guessed but it’s everywhere including restaurant as part of desert offerings.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (YO3Ap)

293 The NY Post this weekend had an article about how Boston could see a baby boom in 9 months, because of all the Scots who showed up in local bars over there. Little William Wallaces hoovering up all the single lasses. What the heck are the hometown boys doing over there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 04:26 PM (eShkR)

Putting from the rough.

Posted by: Plundering the basement at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (TbWk/)

294 >>>Ian Fleming had Bond tell M that "the best English cooking is the best in the world, especially at this time of year" (spring, I think it was; in a club scene in Moonraker).

On the other hand, that was seventy years ago.

top british chefs have been attempting to create an "authentic" british high cuisine using typically british ingredients (like leeks and lamb) precisely because there is no great british cooking tradition.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (1wjle)

295
I'm pretty sure if one drunken scotsman fucks another drunken scotsman, a baby won't result.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026

***
"Ah dinna know where ye been, man, but Ah see ye won first prize!"
(-- punch line of joke and song)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (wzUl9)

296 America has the best food in the world because we took all the best things from elsewhere and perfected it here.
Posted by: 18-1

Two words. Cultural. Appropriation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (ndZc7)

297 Wow the Montreal police give new meaning to the phrase "clown car cops."

Posted by: J.D. Vance over the weekend at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (mWKAz)

298 Terducken.

Why? Why not, that's why.

I like your can do attitude.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (Riz8t)

299 248 Just came back from trip to Vienna (with side trip to Bratislava), Budapest and one other capital city that is in a country that borders on both Austria and Hungary. But I won't name it because it is so awesome I don't want it to be overrun (even by such fine people as yourselves). Food was fantastic everywhere.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 04:26 PM (Dv3i1)

We did the same type of trip but its a Family River cruise thru TAUCK, Eastern Europe is still safe and they really hate the Commies.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (zMUto)

300 They didn't run out... They still had Bud Lite...

As long as you have overly hydrated hobos you never run out of Bud light...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (sKqQm)

301 lol
"Milk, bread, and an air rifle!"

Stay and get yer green card, mate. Then you can go to Walmart and get milk, bread, and a real rifle.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (vTZFs)

302 Yeah that Boston running out of beer thing sounds bullshit. There are a few thousand Scot fans in a Metro metro area of 5M people with 60 colleges for crying out loud and a place that has a ton of tourists all the time.

Makes for a fun story but yeah I call bullshit.
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (YO3Ap)
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Surely overblown, but I think a few individual bars got overrun with Scots and drained out. That's probably what fueled the story. There are apparently a few bars that are very popular with the Scots, including one who's name translated into Scottish means "shit."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (iFTx/)

303 the first time I was in a Costco I was pretty amazed, tbf.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (1wjle)

304
What I hate about Europe is paying to use the bathroom, reststop or even when we were at an amusement park you had to pay 1 euro to use it.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (zMUto)



I mean really, the sink is RIGHT THERE IN THE OPEN.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (y9nCu)

305 Two words. Cultural. Appropriation.

Indeed. Its a good thing.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (sKqQm)

306 294 On the other hand, that was seventy years ago.

top british chefs have been attempting to create an "authentic" british high cuisine using typically british ingredients (like leeks and lamb) precisely because there is no great british cooking tradition.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (1wjle)

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Still, I do enjoy The Great British Bake Off.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (Zn6QU)

307 USAid was funding the red tide in South America which increased cocaine production.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:34 PM (sasms)

308 This is just social media influencer crap. smells like a campaign to polish the US' image and increase tourism from european countries.

When I saw the guy picked up the crappy muffins… if he was actually excited, he won’t be as soon as it gets in his mouth.

Americans gobbling up this "never seen a supermarket" grift. American culture shock is apparently just unbridled consumerism and Walmart...

Everybody will come back home with +10kg at the belly (thats's about 18 freedom eagles)

Just wait until the Americans go to Europe and see free healthcare and education….

You know most are fake or parody right? But the free water is needed in Europe. Greedy ass continent charging 4 euros for a bottle of water every time you go out.

I like america. Wish it would embrace free healthcare, increase the minimum wage, get money out of politics and stop electing anyone who says the word "jesus" in a semi coherent sentence. Then we could have a country where we get these little things, and are able to live well.

Other people might like the place too.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 04:34 PM (Lb0vX)

309 Americans will eat practically anything, like raccoons. Soda Shaq? No problem, give us a 2-liter. We think hotdogs are food, for Pete's sake. But we still wouldn't stoop to eating Englush animal feed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:34 PM (BI5O2)

310 Bidet Light.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:35 PM (sasms)

311 The one couple I've seen, James and Siana (he's the bearded guy with muscles and she's the gorgeous blonde from London) started this love of the USA in the past year on their youtube. Have visited over 20 states. Invited by a Southern family for Thanksgiving, which blew their minds and included hunting. They are trying to come to America to live.

I saw one of their videos, and they were begging for money to come over here. Some of these folks are just frauds, taking advantage of some American's desire to be liked by Europeans. Sorry, I'm feeling cynical today.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:35 PM (Riz8t)

312 If Europeans start to realize they've been lied to by their media about the people and places of America, imagine if they start wondering what else they've been lied to about.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 04:35 PM (viF8m)

313 Hopefully some end up at gun ranges and see the ease and comfort some of us Americans have with arms.

One guy said that the only guns he saw were at a range some nice people took him to where he was able to do some shooting and it was fun.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:35 PM (ExV1e)

314 259 First summer weekend in Chicago:

6 dead, 39 wounded.

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 04:27 PM (vu/LI)


Rookie numbers.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 04:35 PM (wVcYX)

315 Cont.from my comment above

James and Siana said before their first (of several) trips to the USA that they were warned how dangerous it was here.

They did get robbed in California but otherwise love the USA, the food, the sites, the people.

I think these people go back and tell their countries the media propaganda is bs. Good!

No wonder the commies are upset that their dystopian hallucinations are bs.

I don't watch the World Cup but I do love the hurrah America videos.

We have it very good, y'all.

Get ready to celebrate the 250th birthday!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 22, 2026 04:35 PM (hzuYO)

316 Antlers on a squirrel is distrubing.
Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 04:29 PM (dIske)

We have jackalopes here. At Reagan's ranch in the bar area he had one and he would tell foriegn visitors they were dangerous and everywhere here.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 22, 2026 04:35 PM (fr+Kt)

317 I mean really, the sink is RIGHT THERE IN THE OPEN.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (y9nCu)

If you're Muslim "migrant" they'll let you wash your ass right in the public fountain.

Posted by: No others need apply though at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (TbWk/)

318 The Atlantic owned by Loureen Jobs uber Karen lefty widow of Steve. BFF of Ghislaine Maxwell.
You'd think with all that cash she'd ask for happy stories.
But noooo.
She wants to change the world

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (Iurxt)

319 Everybody will come back home with +10kg at the belly (thats's about 18 freedom eagles)


Would love to push this redditor to answer whether being 10kg overweight is a morally bad thing or not, especially with a few Healthy at Any Size Redditors in the thread...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (sKqQm)

320 top british chefs have been attempting to create an "authentic" british high cuisine using typically british ingredients (like leeks and lamb) precisely because there is no great british cooking tradition.

Do you mean to tell me the Brits didn't invent vindaloo? Ridiculous!

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (Riz8t)

321 Just wait until the Americans go to Europe and see free healthcare and education…


LOL.. Yeah.. Just wait....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (afi9t)

322 Ian Fleming had Bond tell M that "the best English cooking is the best in the world, especially at this time of year" (spring, I think it was; in a club scene in Moonraker).

On the other hand, that was seventy years ago.

top british chefs have been attempting to create an "authentic" british high cuisine using typically british ingredients (like leeks and lamb) precisely because there is no great british cooking tradition.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:32 PM (1wjle)
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Fish and chips is awesome. So is beef wellington. I also like shepards pie, although the Brits and Irish fight over that one.

I don't get all the negativity towards British food. Some of it is quite good.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (iFTx/)

323 In 1996, there was a pay toilet in a Newberry's story. I was eleven and crawled under the door.

There was a law in California, back in the day, that if you served food you had to have a public toilet. I worked in a Baskin-Robbins in High School. If a customer requested use of it, we were gracious. Not a clean as a Buc-ees, but served its purpose.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (qFwJc)

324 Maybe all those immigrants aren't doctors and engineers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (sasms)

325 318 The Atlantic owned by Loureen Jobs uber Karen lefty widow of Steve. BFF of Ghislaine Maxwell.
You'd think with all that cash she'd ask for happy stories.
But noooo.
She wants to change the world

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (Iurxt)

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The Epstein crowd is super serious because they've all boycotted The Atlantic.

However, it's impossible to actually see because The Atlantic's subscriber base was so small already.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (Zn6QU)

326 313 the only guns he saw were at a range. Witness the beauty of concealed carry.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (gm9Sb)

327 1966. Not 1996.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (qFwJc)

328 The Fidelity people tell me that my check for my long-ago pension plan may not arrive until next Monday -- seven months after I started their process to get it. They told me seven to ten business days from June 13. They don't count Saturdays -- even though the Post Office delivers on Saturday.

A letter I got from them, today, was dated June 3. It took 19 frickin' days to get here from New Mexico. Not south Africa, but from Albuquerque. If that's any indication, I may not see that check for two more weeks.

I shall heartily recommend Fidelity Investments to all my enemies.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (wzUl9)

329 I honestly can't decide which I've loved more. Seeing the genuine expressions of joy from our European cousins (and visitors from around the world) marveling at our food, our vehicles, our stores, our customs and our kindness....

...or seeing the panic-riddled, angry, angst-ridden responses from the American Left, predictably shrieking, "Propaganda! Right-wing psy-op! These people are NOT really enjoying themselves!"....

...quickly followed by their six-paragraph denunciations of America, Donald Trump, capitalism, white people, etc., etc., etc.

When you meet us in person, in our lands, and you come to see firsthand our ways, we're actually pretty damned likeable. God bless America.

Posted by: Sam Adams at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (X+xvk)

330 My first time in Europe (West Germany) was where I discovered, quite to my dismay, that refills were NOT free. That Saturday morning at the cafe was very instructional.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (bufu1)

331 saw one of their videos, and they were begging for money to come over here. Some of these folks are just frauds, taking advantage of some American's desire to be liked by Europeans. Sorry, I'm feeling cynical today.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:35 PM (Riz8t)
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Haven't seen that one. They seem lovely to me.

Of course I also once went on a snipe hunt, if that tells you anything. Granted I was only 9yrs old but a believer.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (hzuYO)

332 >>Just wait until the Americans go to Europe and see free healthcare and education….

Been there. There's no such thing as free healthcare you idiot and the healthcare in Europe sucks.

The education is obviously worse. Also not free.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (viF8m)

333 321 Just wait until the Americans go to Europe and see free healthcare and education…


LOL.. Yeah.. Just wait....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (afi9t)

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Why would an American tourist be amazed by a healthcare system they don't interact with and a university system they don't attend?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (Zn6QU)

334 I saw an internet rumor that TSA had to issue a public statement reminding Euros that bottles of ranch must be packed in checked luggage, not carry-ons. Too beaucoup.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 22, 2026 03:51 PM (w/O5Q)
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Hey, Euros, leave the buttermilk ranch. That's OURS!

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (rj6Yv)

335 Just wait until the Americans go to Europe and see free healthcare and education….

Or, they could just go to Canada. Have you noticed that Americans DON'T go to Canada for education and healthcare? Imbecile.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:38 PM (Riz8t)

336 Two words. Cultural. Appropriation.

Indeed. Its a good thing.
Posted by: 18-1

Consider the wonder of the food court.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 04:38 PM (ndZc7)

337 what's funny is at the Start of the World Cup, I saw nothing but complaining from the English about the Soccer tourny coming here and we would ruin it, our Fields are crap and they can't drain, Then Orlando turned on the Drainage system and they could play their tuneup game, then they got upset about people eating and Drinking Beer next to the Field, I pointed out that the English are too poor to afford those seats and They can't handle drinking a beer and watching a game because it's banned in England.
then all the good posts started to pour in, and it stopped

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2026 04:38 PM (zMUto)

338 303 the first time I was in a Costco I was pretty amazed, tbf.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (1wjle)
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We knew a young French family from church, from near Paris no less. One day I ran into the wife at Costco with her parents who had come to visit. I thought oh no, what must they think of this place and of us.

The next time I saw her I asked what they thought - were they horrified? Nope! She beamed at me, "Zey thought eet was GREAT!"

Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2026 04:38 PM (afFes)

339 I remember once driving across Texas from El Paso to the Louisiana border. I thought I was going to die in Texas. God I love this country!

Posted by: The guy that says nothing will happen (again) at June 22, 2026 04:39 PM (LNVkW)

340 (VIDEO) Los Angeles Warehouse Fire Rages Into SIXTH Day as Newsom Declares State of Emergency and Shelter-in-Place Orders


WTF ???
Dipshit gonna make grocery store aisles one-way too?

Posted by: Operator Error at June 22, 2026 04:39 PM (vr1/1)

341 Jones GoodAss Barbecue and Foot Massage will deep-fry anything you want

https://youtu.be/uNpFh4k-YW8

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 04:39 PM (vu/LI)

342 On Reddit they’re still convinced the stadiums are empty because Trump and ICE are arresting foreigners. Even though virtually every game, even between no name teams, are sell outs.

And televised.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:39 PM (ExV1e)

343 Armie's movie Citizen Vigilante is looking good, didn't realize it's been banned in parts of Europe.

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I watched it last night. It's a Uwe Boll movie. It's a bad movie.

People will still enjoy it, based on what it has to say and the fact that it's willing to say it. No judgement. I like plenty of bad movies myself, I just didn't like this one.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 22, 2026 04:39 PM (yFLFB)

344 You know what's really tragic about this? It never happened with all those teeming hordes that Biden invited in. All that crowd does is complain, not enough free shit. And you know they have phones, cause those were free, too.

Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2026 04:39 PM (7MXBW)

345
I like the N Korean sisters' vids. Their enthusiasm is genuine and heartwarming. And their stuff predates the World Cup tourists.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 04:39 PM (y9nCu)

346 lol
"Milk, bread, and an air rifle!"

Stay and get yer green card, mate. Then you can go to Walmart and get milk, bread, and a real rifle.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 22, 2026 04:33 PM (vTZFs)

An official Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle! With a compass in the stock and the thing that goes up.

Posted by: Ralphie Parker at June 22, 2026 04:39 PM (wVcYX)

347 "Otherwise I'm not sure what you can do with wiper fluid other than poison dogs ... so, maybe, yeah that would be dangerous in Europe"

No, poisoning dogs is good way to show obedience to their future (current?) rulers.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 22, 2026 04:40 PM (Vpqw1)

348 Oh man, the leftists going on and on about free healthcare. There is nothing more expensive or deadly as free healthcare.

But these haters just won't leave to their ideal countries with free healthcare. Europe is taking all comers, go!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 04:40 PM (n5tGW)

349 Every time hear some leftist talk about free dictation in Europe I want to slap them.

First off we have next to free Wattoo. Here. Go to in state and live at home, get a china ship or two and it’s free. Very doable.

But the part they miss is what “free” gets you. Like everything govt gives away for “free” it’s rationed and shitty. It’s hard to get into college in Europe. And there’s no $30M library or gym on campus. Everything is old and run down. There are the exceptions like Oxford but that is NOT free, even for UK students.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:40 PM (YO3Ap)

350 Why would an American tourist be amazed by a healthcare system they don't interact with and a university system they don't attend?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (Zn6QU)

I got pretty sick in Prague. Turned out ok, but my buddy was thinking I should go to a doctor in Berlin. "Hell no," I said, "if I don't get better soon I'm flying back home and going to an American-trained Jewish doctor."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:40 PM (BI5O2)

351 343 I watched it last night. It's a Uwe Boll movie. It's a bad movie.

People will still enjoy it, based on what it has to say and the fact that it's willing to say it. No judgement. I like plenty of bad movies myself, I just didn't like this one.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 22, 2026 04:39 PM (yFLFB)

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Uwe Boll's absolute best movie is...okay. Rampage. It's not good. It's okay.

But people want to support art with messages they like. So, have fun, I guess.

The original Death Wish is actually good, everyone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:40 PM (Zn6QU)

352 Sounds like a job for the fire department. Station 51?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:40 PM (sasms)

353 321 Just wait until the Americans go to Europe and see free healthcare and education…


LOL.. Yeah.. Just wait....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 04:36 PM (afi9t)
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Funny you should say that. There is a video of this Scotish guy whose wife had a medical emergency so he took her to a hospital emergency room and she was in and out in less than and hour, and they couldn't stop talking about how well they were treated, and how professional everyone was.

Then the kicker: He said that if this occured in the UK he would have had to wait for hours, and then likely told to come back in 3 weeks time.

His total bill was about $700 most of which will be absorbed by the Brit system.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 04:41 PM (dIske)

354 Wolfus Aurelius, be patient. And stop wasting money on stupid shit. Why are you still a renter? Washing your car, going out to diners, etc. Miss Linda?

Man up and learn how to cook. Wash your own car. Stop buying coffee unless you brew it yourself.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 04:41 PM (qFwJc)

355 $10 gas , 20% VAT and 50% income tax rates for middle class incomes. But yeah man healthcare is freeeeeeee.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:41 PM (YO3Ap)

356 No Uwe Boll for me, TYVM, ever.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:41 PM (BI5O2)

357 This is disgusting !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I demand that Obama and the Commie-Crats put out videos everywhere to tell these people America Sucks and is Evil immediately before these spreads worldwide !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at June 22, 2026 04:41 PM (jzqpX)

358 342 On Reddit they’re still convinced the stadiums are empty because Trump and ICE are arresting foreigners. Even though virtually every game, even between no name teams, are sell outs.

And televised.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Who are going to believe? Reddit, or your lying eyes?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 04:41 PM (Lb0vX)

359 >>>What I hate about Europe is paying to use the bathroom, reststop or even when we were at an amusement park you had to pay 1 euro to use it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

>Last time I was driving down the freeway and had to take a piss, a state trooper pulled up and hilarity ensued. Asshole insisted I take a breathalyzer. Now can you shake my dick?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 04:41 PM (fkjGs)

360 I was watching some British cooking competition and they had a Mexican food themed segment. It was so funny. 90% of the contestants had never even heard of the foods they were trying to recreate. They were literally just guessing what might go into the dish based on the name.

I get they don't have much of a tradition, but you've never even seen a taco on TV?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (mkw2N)

361 Also, will someone PLEASE tell europeans they can buy ranch in PACKETS! Take it home in powder form, with all the herbs, and add your own buttermilk or milk or whatever.

It would take a whole family's ration of dairy for a decade to make a cup of Ranch.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (ExV1e)

362 France restricts public alcohol consumption.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (sasms)

363 the first time I was in a Costco I was pretty amazed, tbf.

I had a lovely Father's Day yesterday, but the cherry on top was that all but one of my kids (the single one, go figure) are now Costco members. They can't mock me anymore!

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (Riz8t)

364 >> I saw an internet rumor that TSA had to issue a public statement reminding Euros that bottles of ranch must be packed in checked luggage, not carry-ons. Too beaucoup.

Boston enjoyed the Brits so much they sent a cart full of food and drinks to an airport gate where a Scottish group was waiting for a flight to go to Miami for the next round.

People can say it's fake all they want and I'm sure there are some doing it for clicks but what happened in Boston over the last couple of weeks was not fake. Both Bostonians and Scottish visitors had a great party.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (viF8m)

365
Europe sucks.

Posted by: ballistic

Especially The Final Countdown!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (Cqx++)

366 An official Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle! With a compass in the stock and the thing that goes up.

Posted by: Ralphie Parker

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"With a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time."

Posted by: Sam Adams at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (X+xvk)

367 I remember once driving across Texas from El Paso to the Louisiana border. I thought I was going to die in Texas. God I love this country!
Posted by: The guy that says nothing will happen (again) at June 22, 2026

***
Took me two days to get across TX from the Guadalupe Mountains to Lousy-ana in '93. Dwight Yoakam's "Thousand Miles from Nowhere" was recent then, and I played the tape as I drove through the western section toward San Antonio. Perfect words.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (wzUl9)

368 Has anyone seen the videos where Brits are freaking out at seeing a school bus?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (ExV1e)

369 America is the shining city on the hill.
Life is precious and sacred not to be snuffed out for profit and convenience. If you’re loaded with sexually transmitted diseases you were misinformed.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (NTTgh)

370 His total bill was about $700 most of which will be absorbed by the Brit system.
Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 04:41 PM (dIske)

Liar!!

Everyone knows every American goes bankrupt if they break a leg or have their tonsils removed.
- The left

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (YO3Ap)

371 Pravda and Izvestia called, they want their propaganda back.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (LNXuK)

372 What do you call it when when you have to pay for all the free stuff?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (sasms)

373 > What I hate about Europe is paying to use the bathroom, reststop or even when we were at an amusement park you had to pay 1 euro to use it.

And in many places you're not even paying for the maintenance of the facilities. They often look like they were last cleaned when Churchill was on the radio.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (mkw2N)

374 Have to admit, the videos with Europeans showing shock at the prospect of buying ten pounds of ground beef and a gallon of ice cream puzzles me. Do these folks not invite friends over for a cookout?

Posted by: Sam Adams at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (X+xvk)

375 332 >>Just wait until the Americans go to Europe and see free healthcare and education….

Been there. There's no such thing as free healthcare you idiot and the healthcare in Europe sucks.

The education is obviously worse. Also not free.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 04:37 PM (viF8m)

Got sick in Europe this Spring and wanted to get something, you have to a Pharmacy because their is nothing over the counter, and they are open like bank hours, then you can't get cold and Flu you have to but everything separate. the one time we forgot to pack cold and flu meds I get sick

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (zMUto)

376 Shelter in place because a fire down the street a ways or in next town? What with fire extinguisher in hand incase your house catches fire?

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (Ia/+0)

377 The euros thought yellow scgool buses were fake.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 22, 2026 04:44 PM (sasms)

378 Wolfus Aurelius, be patient. And stop wasting money on stupid shit. Why are you still a renter? Washing your car, going out to diners, etc. Miss Linda?

Man up and learn how to cook. Wash your own car. Stop buying coffee unless you brew it yourself.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026

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I'm still a renter because I CAN'T FIND A PROPERTY I WANT TO BUY. And I do wash my own car ($2.00), cook for myself, and make my own coffee.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:44 PM (wzUl9)

379 Rampage was a stupid hunk of shit. Okay iscway too generous.

My friend hyped it up, I watched it for 45 minutes, and said "yep, it's an Uwe Boll movie, I'm going to get drunk and try to forget this."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:45 PM (BI5O2)

380 But the part they miss is what “free” gets you. Like everything govt gives away for “free” it’s rationed and shitty. It’s hard to get into college in Europe. And there’s no $30M library or gym on campus. Everything is old and run down. There are the exceptions like Oxford but that is NOT free, even for UK students.

It takes a special kind of cluelessness to call it "free". Who do you think pays for it, you twits? Do you think it just falls unbidden from the sky?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:45 PM (Riz8t)

381 Stop going out to breakfast. Stop going out to lunch. Stop going out to dinner.

This is how we who have nice houses did it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 04:45 PM (qFwJc)

382 Shelter in place because a fire down the street a ways or in next town? What with fire extinguisher in hand incase your house catches fire?
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (Ia/+0)


Charge up your water hose and get up on top of your roof and soak the place down until they get the fire out.

This is how it's done. Extra bonus points if you're up there in your tighty whiteys while doing it.

*this actually happened*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:45 PM (2YhKe)

383 Took me two days to get across TX from the Guadalupe Mountains to Lousy-ana in '93. Dwight Yoakam's "Thousand Miles from Nowhere" was recent then, and I played the tape as I drove through the western section toward San Antonio. Perfect words.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:42 PM (wzUl9)
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And I thought driving from Mobile to Jacksonville was a long, long haul ...

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 04:45 PM (rj6Yv)

384 375 332 >>Just wait until the Americans go to Europe and see free healthcare and education….

Been there. There's no such thing as free healthcare you idiot and the healthcare in Europe sucks.

I saw Fat Ass Rosie O' Donell is back in the Racist/Homophobic/Evil USA to do some show .....

So much for Ireland ........

Posted by: Jackson K. at June 22, 2026 04:46 PM (jzqpX)

385 Northern Italy could make me fall in love with polenta.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 04:25 PM (Zn6QU)

You don't like grits?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 04:46 PM (ExV1e)

386 Uwe Boll's absolute best movie is...okay. Rampage. It's not good. It's okay.

But people want to support art with messages they like. So, have fun, I guess.

The original Death Wish is actually good, everyone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Agree on all counts.

Rampage was his most competent film. Some of the kills in Vigilante would make Riki-Oh blush, and they're wildly inappropriate for the scene.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 22, 2026 04:46 PM (yFLFB)

387 > The euros thought yellow scgool buses were fake.

In my experience, they see yellow school busses on TV or in movies and they get really excited when they see them in person. Red Solo cups too.

In lots of place in Europe, kids just take public transportation to get to school.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 04:47 PM (mkw2N)

388 But people want to support art with messages they like. So, have fun, I guess.
____

I watched He-Man yesterday. It was a fun movie. Orko gave the message after the first credits were shown, in case you didn't pick up on the message of teamwork watching the story unfold.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 04:47 PM (Dv3i1)

389 >>Got sick in Europe this Spring and wanted to get something, you have to a Pharmacy because their is nothing over the counter, and they are open like bank hours, then you can't get cold and Flu you have to but everything separate. the one time we forgot to pack cold and flu meds I get sick

The dad of a friend of mine in the UK had a fairly serious heart condition that required surgery. NHS took 8 months to schedule the procedure.

Living in Boston for years it was very common to see people coming to the city for serious and even not so serious treatment. Cause the healthcare is free in Canada.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 04:47 PM (viF8m)

390 Such a difference in reaction from people who come here because they were "oppressed" and "persecuted" and get everything FREE and do nothing but bitch and moan and commit elaborate frauds on the taxpayers. Then we have these folks who spent thousands for the experience and the only thing they're fleeing is bland food and a dearth of big box retail. I love them!!

Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2026 04:47 PM (7MXBW)

391 Stop going out to breakfast. Stop going out to lunch. Stop going out to dinner.

This is how we who have nice houses did it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026

***
I've already done most of those things and have for years. Thats how I have the money to make a big down payment on a house -- once I find one I like.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 04:47 PM (wzUl9)

392 Thunderstorm's about to hit. Ayup.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:48 PM (Riz8t)

393 374 Have to admit, the videos with Europeans showing shock at the prospect of buying ten pounds of ground beef and a gallon of ice cream puzzles me. Do these folks not invite friends over for a cookout?
Posted by: Sam Adams at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (X+xvk)


Hard to do a cookout when you live in a shitty flat

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:48 PM (YO3Ap)

394 In my experience, they see yellow school busses on TV or in movies and they get really excited when they see them in person. Red Solo cups too.

In lots of place in Europe, kids just take public transportation to get to school.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 04:47 PM (mkw2N)
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I went to school at an army base in Germany. We lived out in the countryside, so the army chartered tour buses as our school buses. Sometimes they'd be top-of-the-line busses. Sometimes they'd be POS's. You just never knew what the school bus was going to be from day to day.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 04:48 PM (gnNyN)

395 Nice to see an appreciation of America... Too Bad a lot of our own Citizens don't feel that way....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 04:48 PM (afi9t)

396 I saw Shitty Flat open for The Atomic Bitchwax at The Curtain Club in '99.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 04:49 PM (2YhKe)

397 Cause the healthcare is free in Canada.

And it's government run, so you know the management is top flight.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 04:49 PM (Riz8t)

398 I love grits. But dago grits is better. I think maybe because it isn't made from hominy. Not sure what it is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 04:49 PM (BI5O2)

399 In lots of place in Europe, kids just take public transportation to get to school.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 04:47 PM (mkw2N)



Ewww.

Posted by: LASue at June 22, 2026 04:49 PM (1MCHl)

400 Watching a T-storm heading my direction for awhile, not sure hitting or by passing

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:49 PM (Ia/+0)

401 Has anyone seen the videos where Brits are freaking out at seeing a school bus?

Somewhat related, I just watched schoolbus racing on a small dirt oval. In Canada, though. I hope we do it here, too.

Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2026 04:49 PM (ReYtg)

402 And in many places you're not even paying for the maintenance of the facilities. They often look like they were last cleaned when Churchill was on the radio.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 04:43 PM (mkw2N)

or an inch of water that's on the floor, we stopped at a truckstop where you could see where the Sound of Music was filmed, the Hills are alive with the sound of Music, found out when I got home found out a former classmate was a Von Trapp, they dropped the Von in the US.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2026 04:50 PM (zMUto)

403 Hard to do a cookout when you live in a shitty flat
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 04:48 PM (YO3Ap)
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Equipped with a tiny fridge and maybe a freezer.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 04:50 PM (rj6Yv)

Massachusetts Middle School Principal Apoglogizes to Muslim Students for Making Them Feel "Unseen" and "Unsafe" for... A Teacher Teaching a Standard, Basic Lesson About the Holocaust

They intend to make you submit to Islam.

apologizingforteachingtheholocaiust.jpg


StopAntisemitism
@StopAntisemites

Boston (Lexington), MA: William Diamond Middle School Principal Johnny Cole sent an email apologizing to Arab, Muslim, Palestinian, and Lebanese students who were offended by a mandatory Holocaust lesson.

Since when is teaching historical fact something that requires an apology?

And why is a school principal validating outrage over Holocaust education instead of defending it?

Kevin Deutsch
@kdeutschjourno

A Massachusetts middle school principal apologized to seventh-grade students after some families complained that a lesson on antisemitism and the Holocaust left them feeling "unseen" and "less safe."

The email message from William Diamond Middle School Principal Dr. Johnny Cole, of Lexington, Massachusetts, was sent to families following a presentation that connected Holocaust education to contemporary antisemitism -- at a time when hatred of Jews has reached unprecedented levels in the U.S.

Karen Hunt aka KH Mezek
@karenalainehunt

17h

Absolutely sickening.

Boston (Lexington), MA: William Diamond Middle School Principal Johnny Cole sent an email apologizing to Arab, Muslim, Palestinian, and Lebanese students who were offended by a mandatory Holocaust lesson.

He was so sorry they "felt unseen" and that their "own history, identity, community" had been "left out".

Seriously???

The Holocaust is about 6 million JEWS being murdered, along with others such as Christians who protected Jews, homosexuals and the mentally ill murdered along with them.

Only several dozen Muslims were killed in the death camps and most were Russian prisoners of war. Their deaths had nothing to do with being Muslim.

But Islam requires that EVERYTHING be about them and their point of view.

And their point of view, based on the Quran, is that Jews SHOULD be killed.

Islam glories in the death of Jews!

Here's an idea: If Muslims want to be included in history lessons about the Holocaust, they should learn about the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem plotting with Hitler to kill the Jews!

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:24 PM




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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (vf0Uk)

2 All your link are belong to ace.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (vf0Uk)

3 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (xcxpd)

4 and congrats

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (xcxpd)

5 Better Red than dead.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2026 02:25 PM (XeU6L)

6 Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:25 PM (CM7zZ)

7 Middle School Principal Apoglogizes to Muslim Students for Making Them Feel "Unseen" and "Unsafe" for... A Teacher Teaching a Standard, Basic Lesson About the Holocaust


Now, tell me how many muslhams rioted or threatened to kill you that led you to making that decision to apologize.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:26 PM (vf0Uk)

8 The Holocaust never happened, and we're glad that it did!

Posted by: Muslims! at June 22, 2026 02:26 PM (aD4fx)

9 Better Red than dead.
--

We can help.

Posted by: Visine at June 22, 2026 02:26 PM (XeU6L)

10 Why would Muslims be offended by the Holocaust? It was done by German socialists.

Ah, because they WANT to cause another one.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:26 PM (sKqQm)

11 Can I throw rocks at the m00hamedans? Can I please?

Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 22, 2026 02:27 PM (jrgJz)

12 I never imagined I would see how the Nazis happened on real time. It’s incredibly disturbing, not to mention disgusting.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:27 PM (CM7zZ)

13 Lexington is a rich, snobby area in MA for those wondering.

As a parent if you don't have at least one transkid people consider you to be trash...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:27 PM (sKqQm)

14 The time to start the 9th Crusade is long overdue.

Posted by: Archer at June 22, 2026 02:27 PM (wvc0i)

15
Know islham, no peace.

No islham, know peace.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (vf0Uk)

16 Evil.

Pure evil masquerading as good.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (ZHOnm)

17
I read the content. I'm curious: just what was the lesson? What was in it? The standard and true history of Jew-hatred leading to attempted genocide?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (XJ22o)

18 "Johnny" is a name your immediate family uses between the ages of 3 and 7 years old. After than, it sounds ridiculous (unless you're Johnny Bench, who gets a pass).

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (dIske)

19 This is exactly the kind of content we're working to eradicate!

Posted by: Kier S. at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (0sNs1)

20 Sponge!!!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (ZHOnm)

21 The principal is telling the students what to do next year - simply disrupt the class to such an extent that they try to stop teaching about the Holocaust.

Works in large areas of France...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (aD4fx)

22 Apologizing to the...I can't even.

Did they apologize to Qatarzan and Candyass as well? News of the Holocaust probably shook them up quite a bit as well.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (dMJIH)

23 Why would Muslims be offended by the Holocaust?

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Because they do not make it sound like an achievement !

Posted by: Islamonazis at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (GD0B3)

24 Dr. Johnny Cole is a brownie hound.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (dMJIH)

25 Cole is a cuck.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (n5tGW)

26 "There is a Jew behind me. You must come kill him."

- - - - - - Shit the koran said

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (vf0Uk)

27 Charlamange the God? More like Charlamange the Ignorant Negro.

Posted by: Zombie Charlemagne at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (g7saB)

28 Just tell middle school students to STFU and listen and learn. Tell them their feelings and ideas are worthless because they're still young and don't know anything yet. That's the reason they're in school, for fuck's sake. Tell them the truth for a change.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (Jr5Lq)

29 Sponge!!!
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (ZHOnm)


*hugs*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (vf0Uk)

30 "Johnny" is a name your immediate family uses between the ages of 3 and 7 years old. After than, it sounds ridiculous (unless you're Johnny Bench, who gets a pass).
Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM

Ahem.

Posted by: Johnny Ringo at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (0sNs1)

31 *13th Waffen Gebirgs Division der SS "Handschar" has entered the cchat*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 02:30 PM (amcLV)

32 I never imagined I would see how the Nazis happened on real time. It’s incredibly disturbing, not to mention disgusting.
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:27 PM (CM7zZ)

True, since we know where it goes, and how the story ends.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 02:30 PM (GD0B3)

33 Well, I assume the apology to Muslims got some
Deserved blowback because otherwise we wouldn't be hearing about it .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 02:30 PM (ZeH0U)

34 What's a 'palestinian?'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:30 PM (vf0Uk)

35 Anti-Semitism has become trendy again, and lord knows people like following trends, especially wimminz. Throw in the brainwashing force multiplier of social media and college indoctrination and it's even easier to see how this can happen, even here in the good old US of A, in real time.

Posted by: Let's play "Who Goes Nazi?" at June 22, 2026 02:30 PM (TbWk/)

36 34.

$20

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (dMJIH)

37 [Insert The Blade's classic rant about how Muslims get what they want because people (rightfully) fear them, whereas nobody fears Christians or Jews]

Somewhat related, I wonder how long it will before someone accused of murdering a black guy in some kind of confrontation uses the "Karmelo Defense."

"Your Honor, it was a young angry black man screaming at me and threatening me. Karmelo murdered a kid over nothing, just stabbed him in the heart. I wasn't gonna end up like Austin Metcalf. I feared for my life and defended myself before I was stabbed in the heart."

It's coming. Only a matter of time. And it could be used by black defendants too.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (iFTx/)

38 Ace asked this question, YEARS ago.

"How many people, precisely, do I need to murder before my religious views are accommodated by the left?"

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (rii+a)

39 This is how it is in a truly multicultural society. And worse: expect thousands of beatings, stabbings, and murders around election time.
The minorities that came before, such as Jewish people, Italians, Poles, Greeks, are pretty well assimilated. However, since the 1970s assimilation is seen as a bad thing (a "new left" idea, just like affirmative action). Newer arrivals who come in large groups will probably never assimilate.

Posted by: PG at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (5tjvu)

40 "Johnny" is a name your immediate family uses between the ages of 3 and 7 years old. After than, it sounds ridiculous (unless you're Johnny Bench, who gets a pass).
Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM


Eh, but you will blow me first.

Posted by: Johnny Dangerously at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (vf0Uk)

41 Just a little more about Dr. Johnny Cole

Publications
Promoting Positive White Racial Identity Development in K-12 Teachers: A Qualitative Case Study
May 18, 2024

How we talk to children about the attack on Capitol Hill matters
Fortune.com January 7, 2021

Projects
Fostering Healthy Racial Identity Development in Trans-Racial Adoptive LGBTQ-Parented Families
Jul 2014 - Jan 2015
Join Johnny Cole as he provides LGBTQ parents an opportunity to consider issues of race, racial identity development, racism, stereotypes, and prejudices, as related to cross-racial adoptive families.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (NFX2v)

42 William Diamond Middle School Principal Johnny Cole


Learn to Coal.

Do Not Learn to Cole.

With very few exceptions (e.g. Carson, Cash, Weissmuller, etc.) grown men should not go by 'Johnny'...especially if they work with children.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (M0V4/)

43 "Johnny" is a name your immediate family uses between the ages of 3 and 7 years old. After than, it sounds ridiculous (unless you're Johnny Bench, who gets a pass).
Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (dIske)
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Doctor Johnny Fever?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (amcLV)

44 >some families complained that a lesson on antisemitism and the Holocaust left them feeling "unseen" and "less safe."

In other words, completely made up bullshit. School system should have told them to fuck off.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 22, 2026 02:32 PM (rJ48h)

45 "Principal Johnny Cole sent an email apologizing to Arab, Muslim, Palestinian, and Lebanese students who were offended by a mandatory Holocaust lesson."

He didn't apologize to the Germans, as well?
That's RACIST !!!

Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2026 02:33 PM (vbXSk)

46 After than, it sounds ridiculous (unless you're Johnny Bench, who gets a pass).
Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (dIske)

Excuse me. Nothing ever got passed, er past, the Oak Behind the Plate.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2026 02:33 PM (1Ff7Z)

47 "Johnny" is a name your immediate family uses between the ages of 3 and 7 years old. After than, it sounds ridiculous (unless you're Johnny Bench, who gets a pass).

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (dIske)

Johnny Hockey, RIP.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 02:33 PM (rii+a)

48 What's a 'palestinian?'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:30 PM (vf0Uk)
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$20, same as in town.

(Obligatory.)

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 02:33 PM (amcLV)

49 The *point* of teaching kids about the Holocaust was that it was easy in socialist Germany to blame Jews for all sorts of problems and then discriminate and eventually kill them for these perceived crimes.

And the conflict here is that Muslims, and more and more leftists, WANT to escalate things in that same way.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:33 PM (sKqQm)

50 I'd be a willing to bet Principal Johnny is light in the loafers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 02:34 PM (Iurxt)

51 It's coming. Only a matter of time. And it could be used by black defendants too.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

I'd just as soon shoot them, it's faster.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 22, 2026 02:34 PM (Q/FnY)

52 "Johnny" is a name your immediate family uses between the ages of 3 and 7 years old. After than, it sounds ridiculous (unless you're Johnny Bench, who gets a pass).
Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM

The man uses Rustoleum (No Drips, No Runs, No Errors!) and he don't stink (Blue Emu). Legend.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 02:34 PM (wVcYX)

53
If Muslims and various Arabs felt "erased" and "unseen," the teacher could always include the role of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in WWII. In fact, they'd probably be proud of his achievements.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 02:34 PM (XJ22o)

54 At some point, American liberal Jews will have to join the Right or they will vanish altogether.

Posted by: toby928(c) at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (4NO2D)

55 Johnny Carson
Johnny Cash
Johnny Unitas

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (u73oe)

56 *leaps into frame*

And Leon is getting laaaaarger!

*leaps out of frame*

Posted by: Johnny from "Airplane!" at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (amcLV)

57 It's The Juuuuuice!

Posted by: pookysgirl hasn't had her V8 yet at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (Wt5PA)

58
Here's an idea: If Muslims want to be included in history lessons about the Holocaust, they should learn about the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem plotting with Hitler to kill the Jews!



Especially since there's some evidence, although not definitive, that the Grand Muffie gave Hitler the idea for the Teutonic Happy Fun Camps in the first place.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (y9nCu)

59 "Dr" Johnny Cole is a dumbfuck.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (fgSb9)

60 What's a 'palestinian?'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:30 PM (vf0Uk)

It's an artificial nationality created from mostly whole cloth and a demeaning name the Romans gave the geographic nation of Israel to deter nationalistic fervor, by Egyptian grifter, terrorist, and predatory homo Yasser Arafat and elements of Soviet intelligence in the 1960s to enrich himself and his political descendants, and to create instability in the region to fuck with America and its allies. Now used by retarded but vicious college students and paid protestors as a cause celebré that they don't actually understand but helps give their pathetic lives purpose and a sense of belonging with other retarded and vicious people.

Posted by: Best definition I've got at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (TbWk/)

61 $20
Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM

===

$20, same as in town.

(Obligatory.)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 02:33 PM

One followed The Style Guide, one did not.

Posted by: Assistant Associate AoSHQ Copy Editor at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (0sNs1)

62 As awful as our adult-written school curricula are today, inviting the students to help write it is awfuller.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (Jr5Lq)

63 At some point, American liberal Jews will have to join the Right or they will vanish altogether.

Posted by: toby928(c) at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (4NO2D)

They are not real Jews. Their religion is progressivism.

The real Jews in America are the modern Orthodox.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (PLxDd)

64 We are sorry because every one of you deserves to walk into this school and feel that who you are matters - Arab students; Jewish students; Lebanese students; Muslim students; Palestinian students - every student. And in this case, we missed the mark and did not
achieve what we hoped to do. Here is what we are doing next. We
****

What the hell happened to American students? E Pluribus Unum!! Teach that, you stupid school.

Posted by: LASue at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (1MCHl)

65 William Diamond (1758–182, the 16-year-old drummer boy for Captain John Parker’s Lexington Minutemen company during the Battle of Lexington and Concord on April 19, 1775.

He sounded the drumbeat (“to arms” that rallied the Lexington militia on the town common as British troops approached, an iconic moment at the start of the American Revolutionary War. Diamond served in the militia and throughout the Revolution.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (V6d0j)

66 The principal's hero is Johnny Cakes from The Sopranos

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (Iurxt)

67 At some point, American liberal Jews will have to join the Right or they will vanish altogether.

Observant Jews vote more R then D and have kids.

Unobservant Jews voting overwhelmingly D and don't have kids.

While Jewish voting history makes then hard to believe, within a generation or so Jewish people should be a reliable R voting block.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (sKqQm)

68 Not to mention that middle-eastern Muslims were active supporters and allies of the Nazis. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was an outright fan of Hitler.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (XMwZJ)

69 Oh, no! They didn't "feel seen?"

What does that mean in the context of a school lesson? I know this is social justice therapy talk, but even within that context, it has a (bullshit) meaning.

They were overlooked, their identity wasn't reflected, they weren't personally recognized, etc. This is typically what that means.

Why are you supposed to feel that way during a school lesson about the Holocaust? When I learned about it, I thought it was a horrible thing that happened. I may have done some introspection to make sure those events DIDN'T reflect any part of me or my mindset.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (mkw2N)

70 But the Holocaust had ZERO to do with the primates

It's too bad there wasn't a Muslim Holocaust

Not sorry

They have been the single most destructive group of "people" on Earth

They are a cancer that needs eradication

Posted by: Melodicmetal at June 22, 2026 02:37 PM (61TgR)

71 Johnny Guitar? Johnny Be-Good?

Posted by: Thrawn at June 22, 2026 02:37 PM (KKMoa)

72 Lexington is an affluent suburb of Boston. It's small, though. Maybe only 35,000 residents.

It's predominantly white (55%) and Asian (34%) with no appreciable Arab or middle-east demos.

I strongly suspect the "Asian" includes India/Pakistan and the complaining goatfuckers are Pakis.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 02:37 PM (iFTx/)

73 In less than 5 years we've gone from Muslims being a odd minority to a segment of society so important everyone must bow before them.

This shit ain't gonna' fly for much longer.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 02:37 PM (jehhT)

74 I'm done with the "need to feel seen".
IMO, "Don't make me look at you" needs to achieve the former cultural status of "Don't make me pull over."

Posted by: barbarausa at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (enw9G)

75 Ace asked this question, YEARS ago.

"How many people, precisely, do I need to murder before my religious views are accommodated by the left?"
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (rii+a)
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Considering the tens of millions killed by the Left, you will have to really step up your game.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (gnNyN)

76 Yeah.... the roadmap is getting pretty clear to when Jesus comes back to save the Jews from annihilation, because this time, there's no Allies going to do it for them.

Give it what, ten years at the most and yeah, I can see how Democrats and other leftists around the world will be joining hands with Muslims to try to exterminate the Jews.

We already have them running actual Nazis here. How long until one of them wins?

Posted by: SimoHayha at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (/ZkOF)

77 Did the principal say " We apologize to our students who had then been there would have been cheering on and participating the incarceration and death of millions of Jews"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (ZeH0U)

78
I know of a genocide story that doesn't leave out the muslims, a story where they can feel seen and heard.

-Armenian

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (Dv3i1)

79 Now used by retarded but vicious college students and paid protestors as a cause celebré that they don't actually understand but helps give their pathetic lives purpose and a sense of belonging with other retarded and vicious people.
Posted by: Best definition I've got at June 22, 2026 02:35 PM (TbWk/)


So it is written. So shall it be.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (vf0Uk)

80 "Oh, no! They didn't "feel seen?""

There's a lot to be said for being unseen. It has its perks.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (Jr5Lq)

81 What educational systems should do is make Herman Wouk's novels "The Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance" required reading in high school.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (rj6Yv)

82


Woah.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (vf0Uk)

83 The real Jews in America are the modern Orthodox.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (PLxDd)
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I see you have boxed out the Ultra-Orthodox community as a whole. It is anything but a homogenous group. Your are mistaken in your selectivity.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:39 PM (V6d0j)

84 Guess I lost my Platinum membership.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:39 PM (vf0Uk)

85 Speaking of Palestinians, I'm reminded of an old joke...

After yet another rant from Yasser Arafat at the UN, Ariel Sharon took a turn to speak.

He walked to the podium and announced, "We too have complaints. Why are history tell us, when Moses first came to the promised land he laid down his staff and cloak and took a bath as he was hot and tired. And right then a group of Palestinians ran up and stole his things and ran off..."

At that point Arafat interrupted him yelling, "LIES! There were no Palestinians then!" at which point Sharon noted, "Finally something we agree one"

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:40 PM (sKqQm)

86 Jonny Quest >>> Johnny Cole

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 02:40 PM (iFTx/)

87 61.

I partially held back out of respect for my elders.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:40 PM (jOoNx)

88 Johnny Bravo >>>> Johnny Cole

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:40 PM (vf0Uk)

89 Observant Jews vote more R then D and have kids.

Unobservant Jews voting overwhelmingly D and don't have kids.
_____

I don't know that this is generally true. There many large Jewish families in Beachwood, University Heights, Cleveland Heights and Shaker Heights. These are some of the bluest suburbs in Ohio.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 02:41 PM (Dv3i1)

90 Johnny load up your printer
And send that letter fast
Cuz the Muzzies are on the warpath
And they will fatwa your ass.

And if you apologize enough
They may just spare your life
But if you don't they'll honor kill your wife.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 22, 2026 02:41 PM (M0V4/)

91 Johnny Hartman>Jonny Quest >>> Johnny Cole

Posted by: mr tmz at June 22, 2026 02:42 PM (rJ48h)

92 RMBS knows Lexington, and he tells me that they are frothing-at-the-mouth lunatic leftists.

So...not surprising that they employee teachers who are weak-willed, cowardly leftists.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:42 PM (PLxDd)

93 That should be "Former" Middle School Principal. But Massachusetts so will probably be promoted to a district superintendent.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 02:42 PM (xvV+O)

94 Orthodox fertility rate: 3.3

Reformed/Conservative fertility rate: 1.4

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:42 PM (sKqQm)

95
Next: Apologizing to Japanese/German/Italian students for teaching about WWII.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (OkYzo)

96 Sidebar - It's finally legal for kids to play pinball in South Carolina
It is the end times! [CBD]
__________

It's not the full 70s experience unless they can also buy a pack of smokes.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (XvL8K)

97 Grand Mufti of Jerusalem plotting with Hitler to kill the Jews!


Nothin says lovin like somethin from the oven!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (Kt19C)

98 Dr. Johnny Cole is probably reading an offer letter from MS NOW as we speak.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (jOoNx)

99 Orthodox fertility rate: 3.3

Reformed/Conservative fertility rate: 1.4
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:42 PM (sKqQm)

islhamic fertility rate: 9.5

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (vf0Uk)

100 Reformed/Conservative fertility rate: 1.4

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:42 PM (sKqQm)
-

With or without the family pet dog?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (V6d0j)

101 Exit question. Does having Charliemain da god on the view lower or slightly raise the collective IQ of the panel?

I go with slightly raise.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (xvV+O)

102 Johnny Appleseeed

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 02:44 PM (wVcYX)

103 Speaking of 'unseen'

@libsoftiktok 19m
BREAKING: Shooting in the Côte-des-Neiges neighborhood in Montreal, CA

- one civilian dead
- one police officer dead
- suspect shot dead by police
- second police officer is in critical condition

Police have not yet released a description or motive for the attack.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 22, 2026 02:44 PM (diia5)

104 I don't know that this is generally true.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 02:41 PM (Dv3i1)

Because it isn't. Modern Orthodox tend to be more conservative, but the Chasidim often vote left because of the massive subsidies they get for their large families. They play the government money game quite well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:44 PM (PLxDd)

105 BREAKING: Shooting in the Côte-des-Neiges neighborhood in Montreal, CA

- one civilian dead
- one police officer dead
- suspect shot dead by police
- second police officer is in critical condition

Police have not yet released a description or motive for the attack.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 22, 2026 02:44 PM (diia5)


Canada. We'll never know the suspect or his motive.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (vf0Uk)

106 Sidebar - It's finally legal for kids to play pinball in South Carolina
It is the end times! [CBD]
__________

It's not the full 70s experience unless they can also buy a pack of smokes.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (XvL8K)

And listen to tunes.

Posted by: Sir Elton John at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (wVcYX)

107 80 "Oh, no! They didn't "feel seen?""

There's a lot to be said for being unseen. It has its perks.
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:38 PM (Jr5Lq)

For sure. Tallest nail is first to be hammered down and all that.

Posted by: Gray man is the way at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (TbWk/)

108 - one civilian dead

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 22, 2026 02:44 PM (diia5)
-

Said to be shot dead by mistake by a female officer.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (V6d0j)

109 In less than 5 years we've gone from Muslims being a odd minority to a segment of society so important everyone must bow before them.

This shit ain't gonna' fly for much longer.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 02:37 PM (jehhT)
_______

Gradually then suddenly. Tipping points. We insanely started importing mass numbers of Muslims after 9-11. It mostly flew under the radar. We didn't notice as their numbers grew and they started taking political and social power. Then one day we woke up and were like "what are all these goatfuckers doing here?"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (iFTx/)

110 islhamic fertility rate: 9.5
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (vf0Uk)

In the US its only 2.5...above replacement but below Orthodox Jews and just above Evangelical at 2.4

The US overall is at 1.8

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (sKqQm)

111 Private school. Home school. Parochial school.

Anything but government-run brain washing schools.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (hvdZy)

112 Wouldn't want the sandmaggots to feel left out, would we? Heaven forfend.

Teach mandatory units about the millenium-and-a-half Islamic legacy of rape, murder, pederasty, inbreeding, cultural arson, and prosyletism by fire and sword.

Every semester. For twelve years.

It's inclusive.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (BI5O2)

113 It is my prayer today that the Holy Spirit work in the soul of every Muslim. And if they repent and be saved they will renounce every Muslim teaching and practice. This is the only way.
Romans 28: 26-30

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (Slgjz)

114 As I noted this morning. The 21st century is demonstrating that "Never Again" and "Never Forget" were nice slogans and that's it.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 02:46 PM (22ggK)

115 68 Not to mention that middle-eastern Muslims were active supporters and allies of the Nazis. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was an outright fan of Hitler.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

The Mufti was an outlier. Most of North Africa and the Near East didn't much care. At the time.
It's when you leave the Middle East that you started getting assholes like Gailani in Iraq, and the Bosnians.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 02:46 PM (gKWVE)

116 The Holocaust never happened, and we're glad that it did!
---
How I feel about the Palestinian Genocide.

Change "glad" to "wish"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 02:46 PM (73/SM)

117 "Oh, no! They didn't "feel seen?""

If the little shits want to be seen, teach them to be seen as f'n Americans, and not primarily as some other identity. Melt into the fucking pot already!

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:46 PM (Jr5Lq)

118 I saw Never Again and Never Forget open for Huh? Whuzzah? in NYC back in 2001.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 02:46 PM (22ggK)

119 I see you have boxed out the Ultra-Orthodox community as a whole. It is anything but a homogenous group. Your are mistaken in your selectivity.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:39 PM (V6d0j)

And they will often vote Democrat for financial and social reasons. For the purposes of this discussion, the Jews in America who may, in the future, shift the political balance toward the right are the modern Orthodox.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:47 PM (PLxDd)

120 Police have not yet released a description or motive for the attack.

Police unsure as to cause but are sure that it is NOT islamic terrorism.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 02:47 PM (xvV+O)

121 Exit question. Does having Charliemain da god on the view lower or slightly raise the collective IQ of the panel?

I go with slightly raise.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 02:43 PM (xvV+O)
======

I read that Behar engaged in a Maoist struggle session with the rest of commies on the View. The result was a triumph for the proletariat, with Behar recanting the unhostile words she spoke regarding JD Vance.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 02:47 PM (rj6Yv)

122 107 Concur.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:47 PM (Jr5Lq)

123 BREAKING: Shooting in the Côte-des-Neiges neighborhood in Montreal, CA

- one civilian dead
- one police officer dead
- suspect shot dead by police
- second police officer is in critical condition

Police have not yet released a description or motive for the attack.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 22, 2026 02:44 PM (diia5)

Is the the same shooting as the one in the kosher deli?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 02:47 PM (rii+a)

124 Wait until the LGQTQQ find out who else the Left considers expendable.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 02:48 PM (22ggK)

125 Johnny Reb

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 02:48 PM (wVcYX)

126 120 Police have not yet released a description or motive for the attack.

Police unsure as to cause but are sure that it is NOT islamic terrorism.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 02:47 PM (xvV+O)

It's a sooper multicultural and multiethnic area of Montreal and they haven't given us a description so...yeah

Posted by: The math ain't that hard at June 22, 2026 02:49 PM (TbWk/)

127 You know who else didn't feel seen?

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 02:49 PM (22ggK)

128 Wait until the LGQTQQ find out who else the Left considers expendable.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 02:48 PM (22ggK)


"Remember when it was just "G?""

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:49 PM (vf0Uk)

129 Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2026 02:45

Amen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 02:50 PM (lQ+/f)

130 Modern Orthodox tend to be more conservative, but the Chasidim often vote left because of the massive subsidies they get for their large families. They play the government money game quite well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:44 PM (PLxDd)
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You are again incorrectly generalizing. There are dozens of major "Chasidic" sects. You're referring mostly to Satmar and Sqverer - which are practically the same.

You also don't know to distinguish between "Chasidim" and "Lithuanian" religious Jews, the latter overwhelmingly abhorent of the left in general.

And then there "Orthodox" who don't want to be clumped into the "modern Orthodox" camp.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:50 PM (V6d0j)

131 Jewish partisanship per Pew (2021):

Orthodox 75R/20D
Conservative 28R/70D
Reform 18R/80D

As a contrast for other groups:
Catholics 46R/50D
Protestants 56R/40D

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:50 PM (sKqQm)

132 You know who else didn't feel seen?
Posted by: ...


Claude Rains?

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 22, 2026 02:50 PM (M0V4/)

133
Segregate the Islamic students. Make 100% of their curriculum Christian religious indoctrination.

They'll feel seen.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 02:50 PM (BI5O2)

134 Wait until the LGQTQQ find out who else the Left considers expendable.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 02:48 PM (22ggK)


"Remember when it was just "G?""
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:49 PM (vf0Uk)

When it was just LG they made high quality affordable home appliances.

Posted by: LGTVFTW at June 22, 2026 02:51 PM (TbWk/)

135 Ultra Orthodox Jews in Monsey and Kiryas Joel in the counties south of me vote en masse for who they think will benefit them the most. Nothing wrong with that
They voted en masse for Cuomo, for Hillary ,for Trump etc

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 02:51 PM (Iurxt)

136 You know who else didn't feel seen?
Posted by: ...


Claude Rains?
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 22, 2026 02:50 PM (M0V4/)

+1 I get that reference.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 02:51 PM (wVcYX)

137
In less than 5 years we've gone from Muslims being a odd minority to a segment of society so important everyone must bow before them.

This shit ain't gonna' fly for much longer.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

===============

Oddly, I think Muslims and trannies are going to the top of the lefty power pyramid (power stemming from victimhood). Once again, politics makes strange bedfellows.

I think it's gonna fly for a while longer. There's a lot of (oil) money out there for repressed, downtrodden, woebegone American Muslims. Bonus: those people aren't afraid to kill political enemies. Another bonus: they're superb at fraud.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 02:52 PM (XJ22o)

138 You know who else didn't feel seen?

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 02:49 PM (22ggK)
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Yes. Mr. E.R. Bradshaw of Napier Court, Black Lion Road London SE5.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:52 PM (V6d0j)

139 Segregate the Islamic students. Make 100% of their curriculum Christian religious indoctrination.
____

That would be inhumane!
- The Current Pope

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 02:52 PM (Dv3i1)

140 My opinion: if a lesson on the Holocaust offends you, then you are PRECISELY the audience who needs to hear about it more.

Posted by: can of spam at June 22, 2026 02:52 PM (14gFN)

141 Police have not yet released a description or motive for the attack.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 22, 2026 02:44 PM

The motive may never be known, they vowed.

Posted by: toby928(c) at June 22, 2026 02:52 PM (4NO2D)

142 welp

just got back from dr

poison ivy ON MY FACE

my God Im an idiot

also Massachusetts is a prison state

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 02:53 PM (j+aD2)

143 Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:50 PM (sKqQm)

Thanks for this. "Reform" looks about as useful to Judaism as PCUSA for Christianity.
Catholicism... needs work.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 02:53 PM (gKWVE)

144 Wait, you mean the Jews DON'T control the government? Mind. Blown.

/sarc if that's required

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 02:54 PM (bl07w)

145 Ultra Orthodox Jews in Monsey and Kiryas Joel in the counties south of me vote en masse for who they think will benefit them the most. Nothing wrong with that
They voted en masse for Cuomo, for Hillary ,for Trump etc

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 02:51 PM (Iurxt)
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Yep. Bastions of Satmar and Skverer Chasidim as I mentioned.

Joel (Yo'el) was the name of the first Satmar Rebbe.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:54 PM (V6d0j)

146 Islam is good at the sort of political infighting the left occasionally goes through - me against by brother, my brother and I against my cousin and so on...

And homosexual males bond through sex either with each other or with access to sexual targets

So in some ways it isn't a surprise these two groups rose to the top of the victim stack...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:54 PM (sKqQm)

147 Catholicism... needs work.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 02:53 PM (gKWVE)

Catholicism needs an actual Catholic Pope.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 02:54 PM (bl07w)

148 So, apparently they left out the part where large parts of the Islamic world supported Hitler, and thus the Holocaust.

So they felt left out...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2026 02:54 PM (mP0Kj)

149 Islam might be coming around to the Iranian proposition that it's not gay if the bottom stays bottom and wears the hijab.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 02:54 PM (gKWVE)

150 You know who else didn't feel seen?
Posted by: ...

JOHN CENA!!!!

Posted by: *superslam music* at June 22, 2026 02:55 PM (TbWk/)

151 Again:
islam exists for two classes of people in this world--the slavers and their slaves.

Every muslim wishes to be a slaver or to own slaves.
Every muslim is a slave to whoever has the most power nearest to them.
All muslims are slave to their idol they call a god.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 02:55 PM (73/SM)

152
poison ivy ON MY FACE

my God Im an idiot

also Massachusetts is a prison state
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 02:53 PM (j+aD2)


Been there, done that.

Suck.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:55 PM (vf0Uk)

153 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:50 PM (V6d0j)

Dig deeper into the data.

Sure...Satmar voted essentially 100% for Trump, but what about down ticket? Same with Rockland and Orange counties.

NY-17 is R. NY-18 is D.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:56 PM (PLxDd)

154 Nothing wrong with that
They voted en masse for Cuomo, for Hillary ,for Trump etc
Posted by: Smell the Glove

I think there is something shortsightedly wrong with that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 22, 2026 02:56 PM (diia5)

155

And they will often vote Democrat for financial and social reasons. For the purposes of this discussion, the Jews in America who may, in the future, shift the political balance toward the right are the modern Orthodox.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:47 PM (PLxDd)

all the ultra communities voted Trump. in fact one precinct in Lakewood was 100%

Posted by: Avi at June 22, 2026 02:57 PM (ieodf)

156 also Massachusetts is a prison state

They had people vote to put a referendum on the ballot to slightly lower taxes. The State Supreme Court just ruled that is unconstitutional and struck it from the coming election.

But no kings or something

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:57 PM (sKqQm)

157 117 "Oh, no! They didn't "feel seen?""

If the little shits want to be seen, teach them to be seen as f'n Americans, and not primarily as some other identity. Melt into the fucking pot already!
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:46 PM (Jr5Lq)

Oh, we see the little assholes. Head on a swivel, my friends.

As to their feelz, who gives a fat rat's ass?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 02:57 PM (bl07w)

158 Sure...Satmar voted essentially 100% for Trump, but what about down ticket? Same with Rockland and Orange counties.

NY-17 is R. NY-18 is D.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:56 PM (PLxDd)
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Again, read what I wrote specifically about Satmar and Skverer.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:57 PM (V6d0j)

159 Catholicism needs an actual Catholic Pope.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 02:54 PM (bl07w)
=======

Leo didn't attend Barry's Library opening, so I keep hope alive.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 02:57 PM (rj6Yv)

160 all the ultra communities voted Trump. in fact one precinct in Lakewood was 100%

Posted by: Avi at June 22, 2026 02:57 PM (ieodf)

Yes. At the top of the ticket. See my comment at #153.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:57 PM (PLxDd)

161 The Grand Mufti also palled around with Stalin.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 02:58 PM (77rzZ)

162 It surprises me a little the school was teaching a Holocaust lesson to middle schoolers. Shouldn't those kids be learning basic American history, Massachusetts history, math skills and drills, writing skills, reading skills and that sort of strong basic stuff?

We covered the Holocaust in ninth grade, and watched "Night And Fog" as an introduction. That film will sober you right up.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 02:58 PM (xbLzn)

163
Oh, no! They didn't "feel seen?"

What does that mean in the context of a school lesson? I know this is social justice therapy talk, but even within that context, it has a (bullshit) meaning.

They were overlooked, their identity wasn't reflected, they weren't personally recognized, etc. This is typically what that means.

Why are you supposed to feel that way during a school lesson about the Holocaust? When I learned about it, I thought it was a horrible thing that happened. I may have done some introspection to make sure those events DIDN'T reflect any part of me or my mindset.
Posted by: bonhomme

===============

Exactly! That's why I was asking what was in the lesson. Standard WWII history? And the Muslim kids were mad that they were "unseen"?

I suspect it was a case of "WE'RE VICTIMS, TOO, YOU KNOW!" (sniffle, whimper) Kids being forced to sit there while someone else got their turn at the top of the victim pyramid -- as if Jews revel in that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 02:59 PM (XJ22o)

164 Stalin by the 1940s was becoming another world class antisemite, and if he'd lived longer through the 1950s would absolutely have reopened the camps.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 02:59 PM (gKWVE)

165 159 Catholicism needs an actual Catholic Pope.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 02:54 PM (bl07w)
=======

Leo didn't attend Barry's Library opening, so I keep hope alive.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 02:57 PM (rj6Yv)

Scheduling conflict with giving Hamas' current leadership taint massages

Posted by: Y'all need to clean house in Rome at June 22, 2026 03:00 PM (TbWk/)

166 I know nobody pays attention to Latin America, so many of us missed this. The left have lost seven major elections in Latin America, Colombia being the latest. What happened? USAID stopping seems like a major inflection point. I realize Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc is flawed thinking, but this seems significant.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 03:00 PM (mkw2N)

167
It surprises me a little the school was teaching a Holocaust lesson to middle schoolers.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

===============

My school taught it in 6th grade, maybe 5th, can't remember.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:00 PM (XJ22o)

168 Kids being forced to sit there while someone else got their turn at the top of the victim pyramid -- as if Jews revel in that.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 02:59 PM (XJ22o)

I always go back to Tevya asking God if He could choose some other people once in a while.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 03:00 PM (bl07w)

169 Stalin by the 1940s was becoming another world class antisemite, and if he'd lived longer through the 1950s would absolutely have reopened the camps.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 02:59 PM (gKWVE)
=====

The Doctors Plot is a prime example.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 03:00 PM (rj6Yv)

170 Oddly, I think Muslims and trannies are going to the top of the lefty power pyramid (power stemming from victimhood). Once again, politics makes strange bedfellows.

In one of our recent primaries we had two young people ( D's) running for township committees. They might have been 18 year olds or in college. One was a fake "transgender" ( M to F)
And the other was a Muslim. I thought it was a weird combination. . It was about the only time recently when I have been at all pleased about the the victory of Democrats.
because the older Democrats who won the primary were neither Muslim or transgender.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 03:01 PM (lQ+/f)

171 I suspect it was a case of "WE'RE VICTIMS, TOO, YOU KNOW!" (sniffle, whimper) Kids being forced to sit there while someone else got their turn at the top of the victim pyramid -- as if Jews revel in that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 02:59 PM (XJ22o)

I think it's that they don't want people feeling sorry for their oppressors.

Don't ask. Getting inside that mind is a trip not worth taking.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:01 PM (22ggK)

172
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 03:00 PM (mkw2N)

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I thought the Western Hemisphere was getting lucky until I saw that list on X the other day and realized how consistent these wins are.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:02 PM (XJ22o)

173 It surprises me a little the school was teaching a Holocaust lesson to middle schoolers.


just fyi went to catholic parish and private schools and we were hardly taught a single thing about the Holocaust.

interestingly

my kids had it starting in 7th or 8th grade too tho, and they went to private Catholic

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 03:02 PM (j+aD2)

174 Michael Jackson's image as a bad ass.

Make it make sense to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:02 PM (Zn6QU)

175 Bending over only helps the head removal process.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at June 22, 2026 03:02 PM (tqoLc)

176 "They were overlooked, their identity wasn't reflected, they weren't personally recognized, etc."

They want to ensconce Main Character Syndrome as the standard conduct of society. "Nothing is more important than your feelings and your right to avoid all offense."

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:03 PM (Jr5Lq)

177 Again, read what I wrote specifically about Satmar and Skverer.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:57 PM (V6d0j)

If you want to differentiate down to which village in Lithuania/Ukraine/Poland, etc. each sect is from, I will defer to you.

My point stands...that the Hasidim in America are not going to be the future of a resurgent Jewish right.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 03:03 PM (PLxDd)

178 Elementary school was American History, Jr High was World History, High School was Western Civ.

Now it is mostly "Social Studies," which isn't history at all. When I homeschooled the boy during Covid, we did Western Civ. Opened his eyes a bit. I doubt his peers got any of that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 03:03 PM (bl07w)

179
Getting inside that mind is a trip not worth taking.
Posted by: ...

===============

True. I'm curious what exactly the complaint was, though. Can't resist wondering. I also wonder what the new teaching materials will be.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:03 PM (XJ22o)

180
I don't know that this is generally true. There many large Jewish families in Beachwood, University Heights, Cleveland Heights and Shaker Heights. These are some of the bluest suburbs in Ohio.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 02:41 PM (Dv3i1)

Unlike Lakewood, BoroghPark Monsey , Flatbush, Teaneck these are mixed neighborhoods with many non Jewish Jews with gentile grandchildren.

Posted by: Avi at June 22, 2026 03:04 PM (ieodf)

181 This is a good one (Obama library):

https://tinyurl.com/3wc9b4ax

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:04 PM (iFTx/)

182 My dad took us to Dachau when I was in my early teens.

That was a very sobering experience.

He also took us to Flossenburg in my senior year in high school.

Also very sobering.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 03:04 PM (gnNyN)

183 179
True. I'm curious what exactly the complaint was, though. Can't resist wondering. I also wonder what the new teaching materials will be.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:03 PM (XJ22o)

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"The Holocaust is a lie. Also, it definitely happened. Also, it didn't go nearly far enough. In fact, we need another one."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:04 PM (Zn6QU)

184 I don’t remember studying the Holocaust in school, in any grade.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (77rzZ)

185 Remarkable that those living within a stone's throw of one of the greatest declarations of national sovereignty are eager to commit to the greatest capitulation to a lesser worldview mere generations later.

Posted by: red speck at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (Ve/HL)

186 Our local middle school's lunchroom / assemblyroom is named for a local holocaust survivor. He came every year to tell his story. The kids loved him - many lingering hugs and much dust in the air.

Fortunately, my brood each got to meet him before he passed.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (wVcYX)

187 185 Remarkable that those living within a stone's throw of one of the greatest declarations of national sovereignty are eager to commit to the greatest capitulation to a lesser worldview mere generations later.

Posted by: red speck at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (Ve/HL)

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"At least Islam has never done colonialisms!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (Zn6QU)

188 174 Michael Jackson's image as a bad ass.

Make it make sense to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:02 PM (Zn6QU)

Because (he's) I'm bad, I'm bad, come on (bad, bad, really, really bad)
You know I'm bad, I'm bad (bad, bad)...hehe!

Posted by: Thrawn at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (KKMoa)

189 First day of history class: "Hi I'm your teacher, Mr Woodcock. If you are prone to offense, please drop this course at once, and sign up for orchestra or shop or something. Do it now."

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:06 PM (Jr5Lq)

190 187 185 Remarkable that those living within a stone's throw of one of the greatest declarations of national sovereignty are eager to commit to the greatest capitulation to a lesser worldview mere generations later.

Posted by: red speck at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (Ve/HL)

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"At least Islam has never done colonialisms!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (Zn6QU)

Or mass rape and slavery!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 03:06 PM (xcxpd)

191 So it's for a good cause.

The New Yorker says we’re taking Greenland so Red Lobster can bring back all-you-can-eat shrimp

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:06 PM (ndZc7)

192 184 I don’t remember studying the Holocaust in school, in any grade.
Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (77rzZ)

They skipped over WWII?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 03:06 PM (bl07w)

193 poison ivy ON MY FACE

Does that work, is it something I should try? Because it's everywhere this year. My best crop.

Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2026 03:06 PM (ReYtg)

194 188 174 Michael Jackson's image as a bad ass.

Make it make sense to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:02 PM (Zn6QU)

Because (he's) I'm bad, I'm bad, come on (bad, bad, really, really bad)
You know I'm bad, I'm bad (bad, bad)...hehe!

Posted by: Thrawn at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (KKMoa)

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Yes, this is the exact song that was playing on the radio as I drove the boys home from the library.

Whispy little Michael Jackson in a black leather jacket screaming that he's a bad ass. Beat It. Thriller.

The 80s feels weird to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:07 PM (Zn6QU)

195
It was about the only time recently when I have been at all pleased about the the victory of Democrats.
because the older Democrats who won the primary were neither Muslim or transgender.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

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I hope the trannies and Muslims get kicked to the curb before the classical liberals are all aged out. What's concerning is the rise of the DSA and Madmanni's gang of Muslims right now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:07 PM (XJ22o)

196 Jews pushed for communist polices since the 1930s. It’s finally biting them in the ass. Now they’re upset.

It’s not Christians who created this environment.

Posted by: Sorry Not Sorry at June 22, 2026 03:07 PM (zUHs4)

197 190 "At least Islam has never done colonialisms!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (Zn6QU)

Or mass rape and slavery!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 03:06 PM (xcxpd)

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Slavery was invented in 1619 by George Washington when he and Donald Trump decided that black men should no longer know how to fly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:07 PM (Zn6QU)

198 184 I don’t remember studying the Holocaust in school, in any grade.
Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (77rzZ

Really? You never read The Diary of Anne Frank? We absolutely learned it, both middle and HS.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:08 PM (Dd38x)

199 Slavery was invented in 1619 by George Washington when he and Donald Trump decided that black men should no longer know how to fly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films

Credit where it's due!

Posted by: Spirit Scarelines at June 22, 2026 03:08 PM (TezPK)

200 Slavery was invented in 1619 by George Washington when he and Donald Trump decided that black men should no longer know how to fly.

But only AFTER they tricked black men into building the Memphis Pyramid

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 03:08 PM (sKqQm)

201 Slavery was invented in 1619 by George Washington when he and Donald Trump decided that black men should no longer know how to fly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:07 PM (Zn6QU)

So, Mr. Zinn, how long have you had these delusions?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 03:09 PM (bl07w)

202 Norm McDonald's joke rings louder and louder each and every day.

Posted by: Cray Cray at June 22, 2026 03:09 PM (nCTkv)

203 201 Slavery was invented in 1619 by George Washington when he and Donald Trump decided that black men should no longer know how to fly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:07 PM (Zn6QU)

So, Mr. Zinn, how long have you had these delusions?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 03:09 PM (bl07w)

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It's fact!

See this scrap of paper that I invented!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:09 PM (Zn6QU)

204 192 It probably got mentioned in passing, but I don’t remember a lot of time being spent on it.

Now, the Thirty Years War we covered in depth.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:09 PM (77rzZ)

205 Slavery was invented in 1619 by George Washington when he and Donald Trump decided that black men should no longer know how to fly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:07 PM (Zn6QU)

You conspicuously omit the involvement of those Greek homos stealing all their aeronautic and space travel technology.

Posted by: They wuz Kangz and Kodoses and sheeeit at June 22, 2026 03:09 PM (TbWk/)

206 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:07 PM (XJ22o)

I agree with you and it is very concerning

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 03:09 PM (ZeH0U)

207 They skipped over WWII?

Some of us had "Social Studies". I would have loved history.

Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2026 03:09 PM (ReYtg)

208 My dad took us to Gettysburg. Also went back with some of my kids. That place has a presence the other D.C. area daytrip battlefields don't.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 03:10 PM (wVcYX)

209 Michael Jackson's image as a bad ass.

Make it make sense to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:02 PM (Zn6QU)
__________

IIRC, they did try to remake his image into more of a tougher, gangster-like personal around the "Bad" record. It did not work.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:10 PM (iFTx/)

210 There's at least one of you who wouldn't have learned about WWII in school...because it was a couple of decades in the future.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:10 PM (Zn6QU)

211 In high school I think we did the Pilgrims until WWI every year...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 03:10 PM (sKqQm)

212 Does that work, is it something I should try? Because it's everywhere this year. My best crop.


lol I do not recommend

I got an appt just in time the dr said, so I can try the steroid cream this time instead of the pills

not sure if anyone remembers a few years ago when I got it BAD and had to take the full course of steroid pills.

OMG

I was bouncing off walls

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 03:10 PM (j+aD2)

213 198 Nope.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:11 PM (77rzZ)

214 209
IIRC, they did try to remake his image into more of a tougher, gangster-like personal around the "Bad" record. It did not work.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:10 PM (iFTx/)

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But his most famous songs are all about how he's some sort of bad ass. It's just weird to me.

Smooth Criminal and such.

He looks like Piper could take him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:11 PM (Zn6QU)

215 would absolutely have reopened the camps.

Nothin says lovin like somethin from the oven

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 03:11 PM (Kt19C)

216 Hmmmm...I pulled up a photo of Dr. Johnny Cole...and I have to say that I'm a bit cynical about whether that's his original name.

This might sound a bit out there...but I don't take people at their word in the education field anymore. It seems the vetting process is suspect, and we've had at least two illegal immigrants march into Principal positions in other school districts.

And...yeah, I'll say it. Dr. Johnny Cole looks to have an Arab background to me.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 03:12 PM (dIske)

217 not sure if anyone remembers a few years ago when I got it BAD and had to take the full course of steroid pills.

OMG

I was bouncing off walls
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 03:10 PM (j+aD2)

Prednisone is a godsend in its curative effects, and straight from the pit of hell in its side effects.

Posted by: Like to sleep? Well tough shit! at June 22, 2026 03:12 PM (TbWk/)

218 My dad took us to Gettysburg. Also went back with some of my kids. That place has a presence the other D.C. area daytrip battlefields don't.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 03:10 PM (wVcYX)
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I've not been to Gettysburg, yet. Vicksburg, Chattanooga/Chickamauga, Five Forks, yes.

It's the Revolutionary War fields that have gained my interest lately. Cowpens and Kings Mountain, in particular.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 03:13 PM (rj6Yv)

219 "@WhiteHouse
︎︎White House will be Q posting today…

And by Q we mean Quantum. Stay tuned 👀"

Q is back? heh, no, but idk what they are talking about.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2026 03:13 PM (vbXSk)

220 Prednisone is a godsend in its curative effects, and straight from the pit of hell in its side effects.
Posted by: Like to sleep? Well tough shit! at June 22, 2026 03:12 PM (TbWk/)
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Sleep is overrated.

Posted by: L. Da Vinci at June 22, 2026 03:13 PM (gnNyN)

221 When I started homeschooling the boy, I called the school district to find out what curriculum they were using to teach history. Nobody there could or would tell me. They said it was up to the teachers to determine lesson plans, etc.

IOW, they didn't want parents knowing what they were teaching the kids.

So, I bought Lord of History and taught that to the boy. Western Civ from a Catholic viewpoint, since most of Western Civ is Catholic, once you get beyond the Greeks.

We did timelines, and European geography, and all the other parts of that as well. Lots of focus on wars because, boy. Development of law, types of governments, economic issues, pestilence, all the cool stuff.

He probably has a better understanding of history than anyone else in his age group. It isn't all that difficult, but for some reason schools just don't bother.

I think I know the reasons, but still.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 03:13 PM (bl07w)

222 I should run for school board just so I can force a lunch menu that is 110% haram and get a nice juicy lawsuit i can use to viciously denigrate Islam and Muslims under the bright lights of the press.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 03:13 PM (BI5O2)

223 204 192 It probably got mentioned in passing, but I don’t remember a lot of time being spent on it.

Now, the Thirty Years War we covered in depth.
Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:09

Where did you go to high school? We spent way more time on WW2 than anything. I mean we had the War of Northern Aggression, obviously, but much time spent on the history of WW2 as well as in social studies with what would now be labeled as thought experiments on what would you do if this happened now. I think as naive people, or maybe just me, being incredulous it could happen again, we would obviously see the evil. And here I am wondering what happened.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:14 PM (Dd38x)

224 I don’t remember studying the Holocaust in school, in any grade.
Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:05 PM (77rzZ)

They skipped over WWII?
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 03:06 PM

WWII was still lived history when we were in elementary school so it wasn't stressed. The Late Unpleasantness got more coverage.

Posted by: toby928(c) at June 22, 2026 03:14 PM (4NO2D)

225 Read Diary of Anne Frank in jr high in seventies. Not much else about the Holocaust that I recall. Learned about it myself through reading lots of history

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 03:14 PM (Iurxt)

226 Texas teaches Texas State history. Washington teaches Washington State history. If I moved from Seattle to Austin, I wouldn't expect the Texas school to teach Washington state history. Same should go for the US.

Posted by: LASue at June 22, 2026 03:15 PM (1MCHl)

227 The "Karen Hunt" in that Tweet is my wife's aunt. She used to be a big Pinko (she's in her 70s now) but got Red pilled by Trump. Alas, my FIL was a John Anderson "Republican," but he's now leaving the country for Canada so as not to be here when Trump oversees the festivities on the 4th. Maybe he'll stay there.

Posted by: GF at June 22, 2026 03:15 PM (13Sxt)

228 IIRC, they did try to remake his image into more of a tougher, gangster-like personal around the "Bad" record. It did not work.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:10 PM (iFTx/)

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But his most famous songs are all about how he's some sort of bad ass. It's just weird to me.

Smooth Criminal and such.

He looks like Piper could take him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:11 PM (Zn6QU)
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Yea, but Smooth Criminal isn't about him. It's a good song.

Watch the NF series on the MJ trial. Even by 2000, he's so frail and incoherent he looks like he's on death's door. It's amazing he lived another 10 years.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:15 PM (iFTx/)

229
Back to the "ladies" of The View, it kills me the way they lean back, touch their chins, and speculate as if they've got a fact in their heads or a gear in their brain.

"Now, considering Trump IS a convicted felon -- and we know this for a FACT -- you would think the Supreme Court would step in and appoint another president. I mean, we should be able to do that. All other countries in the world are run that way."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:15 PM (XJ22o)

230 btw Gettysburg is so great! also a lovely town

they just renovated a lot of the battlefield exhibit

its really nice

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 03:16 PM (j+aD2)

231
It doesn't matter because all these school lessons were given on Stolen Land!

Posted by: Chief Reparation feather at June 22, 2026 03:16 PM (OkYzo)

232 In my neighborhood all our friends are going wild with 250th decorations. My wife put up red, white and blue LED stars in our windows.

"Nobody out-Polacks my wife," I explained to our neighbors. Everyone laughed, especially those of Polish descent.



Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 22, 2026 03:16 PM (wBaIH)

233 He looks like Piper could take him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:11 PM (Zn6QU)

🤣

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:16 PM (Dd38x)

234 218 mrp, my brother and I went to Guilford CH when we in Durham visiting our sister. Great equestrian statue of Nathaniel Green there.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:16 PM (77rzZ)

235 Or high school's history teacher was a legend. Completely unflinching.

He showed us a document where the nazis calculated what the value of a corpse would be

And when we got to Vietnam, he had vets come in and describe what they experienced

Great teacher

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 22, 2026 03:16 PM (uH26z)

236 no one every thought MJ was a badass lol

really no rock star was in the 80s

that was not the rock star profile, not at all

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 03:16 PM (j+aD2)

237 AI sez that polls show "Nearly 90% of American adults know that the Holocaust happened between 1930 and 1950, and associate it with Hitler and the Nazis."

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:17 PM (Jr5Lq)

238
Posted by: GF at June 22, 2026 03:15 PM (13Sxt)

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Really?! It's funny, I hadn't read the content all the way down and I thought my Grand Mufti comment was new -- but she got it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:17 PM (XJ22o)

239 Bought off with money from: Saudi? Qatar? Soros? Any number of devil worshipers? Or maybe the theft and murder are just too good to pass up.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 22, 2026 03:18 PM (b84UO)

240 I had a teacher in high school who was a survivor of, I believe, Auschwitz. We didn't discuss history with her. Not a good topic.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 22, 2026 03:18 PM (bl07w)

241 What else would you expect from.a Cultural Marxist Seminary?

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 03:19 PM (Ia/+0)

242 "Nearly 90% of American adults know that the Holocaust happened between 1930 and 1950, and associate it with Hitler and the Nazis."
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:17 PM

So, it's like Fanta?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 03:19 PM (BI5O2)

243 Piper, it was Cassopolis, Michigan, which I believe you’re acquainted with.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:19 PM (77rzZ)

244 I don’t remember studying the Holocaust in school, in any grade.
Posted by: Bulg

I do, but I'm not 29. We had a priest that knew the Gies', and brought a H-caust survivor to our class for a lecture, read Night twice. It was taught to our tiny parochial school intimately.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 22, 2026 03:20 PM (diia5)

245
that was not the rock star profile, not at all

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026

My friend that worked there thought it was strange that he liked to have Toys R Us close down so he could take a bunch of little kids shopping. The jewelry shopping with small boys was also strange. He wore weird disguises, wigs and fake beards.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 22, 2026 03:20 PM (YhFWP)

246 They didn't come to learn. They didn't come to assimilate.

They came to conquer.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 03:20 PM (qFwJc)

247 Maybe raping white girls will be happening soon

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 03:20 PM (Ia/+0)

248 218 mrp, my brother and I went to Guilford CH when we in Durham visiting our sister. Great equestrian statue of Nathaniel Green there.
Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 03:16 PM (77rzZ)
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A fantastic National Military Park! And it was preserved just in the nick of time.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 03:20 PM (rj6Yv)

249 They skipped over WWII?

-
Well, sequels are never as good as the original.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:21 PM (ndZc7)

250 242 If schools haven't taught Holocaust well enough, at least people found out about it by whatever other means. It's well-known. I wonder if there is any other historical fact that fully 90% of Americans know about?

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:21 PM (Jr5Lq)

251 @214. He looks like Piper could take him.

Take him where? Shoe shopping? That would cost him a fortune!

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 03:21 PM (IY9No)

252 They didn't come to learn. They didn't come to assimilate.

They came to conquer.
Posted by: no one of any consequence

And they're all out of bubblegum.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 22, 2026 03:21 PM (YZ0Fo)

253 They didn't come to learn. They didn't come to assimilate.

They came to conquer.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 03:20 PM (qFwJc)
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What's Arabic for "Veni, Vidi, Vici?"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 03:21 PM (gnNyN)

254 252 They didn't come to learn. They didn't come to assimilate.

They came to conquer.
Posted by: no one of any consequence

And they're all out of bubblegum.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 22, 2026 03:21 PM (YZ0Fo)

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Well, yeah.

It's not haram.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:22 PM (Zn6QU)

255
Another judgy day.......

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
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1h
🚨 JUST IN: Federal Judge Patrick J. Schiltz unilaterally BLOCKS DOJ grand jury subpoenas of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and his allies

WTF?! Impeach and overturn NOW! Walz needs to face accountability!

Walz is not only CONCEALING fraud but also protecting illegal aliens

The subpoenas had to do with Walz and local areas SHIELDING illegals

Now judges are stepping in to carry out the judicial coup and protect it. It has to stop.

Posted by: beckster at June 22, 2026 03:22 PM (kX27y)

256 253 They didn't come to learn. They didn't come to assimilate.

They came to conquer.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 03:20 PM (qFwJc)
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What's Arabic for "Veni, Vidi, Vici?"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 03:21 PM (gnNyN)

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Derka derka. Muhammad jihad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:22 PM (Zn6QU)

257 251 @214. He looks like Piper could take him.

Take him where? Shoe shopping? That would cost him a fortune!
Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 03:21 PM (IY9No)

I think meant more like biting his kneecaps off.

Posted by: Or poisoning him with kale at June 22, 2026 03:22 PM (TbWk/)

258
Dr. Johnny Cole looks to have an Arab background to me.
Posted by: Orson

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I wouldn't be surprised. I think the Number One project of the left right now is to get the America-hating new arrivals into power at the ground level. City councils, school boards, school principals, and upward from there. If you criticize them, you're bigoted against (pulls out deck of cards) -- Islam, brown skin, foreign origins, black skin, accented English, headdresses...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:22 PM (XJ22o)

259 Professor Terguson is a good history teacher. He really seems to care.

Posted by: Thorton Melon at June 22, 2026 03:23 PM (wVcYX)

260 When I was asked to come in and talk about my 9-11 experience to a few groups of middle schoolers they got the truth. It was perpetrated by a group of radical islamic terrorists. They also got a little bit more of a history lesson on how we showed up in Afghanistan with two ODA’s on short order and kicked the snot out of and monkey stomped…radical islamic terrorists.

No pushback at all. Not even a strongly worded letter.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2026 03:23 PM (rxwdW)

261 Principal.Cole.
You stupid stupid man.
It seems to me you need a social studies refresher. In the meantime, start bowing to your muzzie masters.
You fool!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 03:24 PM (2WIwB)

262 He looks like Piper could take him.

Take him where? Shoe shopping? That would cost him a fortune!
Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 03:21 PM (IY9No)

I think meant more like biting his kneecaps off.

Posted by: Or poisoning him with kale at June 22, 2026 03:22 PM (TbWk/)

Only if she borrowed ATC's stepstool.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 03:24 PM (rii+a)

263 Maybe raping white girls will be happening soon
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 03:20 PM (Ia/+0)

I guaran-damn-tee it's been going on here. What do you think human trafficking is about?

Posted by: It ain't about Teslas at June 22, 2026 03:25 PM (TbWk/)

264 I watched a collab stream with Kirsche and Count Dankula. He is NOT a fan of Farage. He acknowledged that he had personal beef with the guy from his time in UKIP. Essentially saying Farage sold them out. Take that for what it's worth.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2026 03:25 PM (G3T/K)

265 What's Arabic for "Veni, Vidi, Vici?"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Vallahu Vakbar!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:25 PM (ndZc7)

266 I think meant more like biting his kneecaps off.

Posted by: Or poisoning him with kale at June 22, 2026 03:22 PM (TbWk/)

Only if she borrowed ATC's stepstool.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 03:24 PM (rii+a)

She can climb up his shin, she works out.

Posted by: Fitness patella in yo mouf at June 22, 2026 03:26 PM (TbWk/)

267 What's Arabic for "Veni, Vidi, Vici?"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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"Don't move, goat"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:26 PM (iFTx/)

268 264 I watched a collab stream with Kirsche and Count Dankula. He is NOT a fan of Farage. He acknowledged that he had personal beef with the guy from his time in UKIP. Essentially saying Farage sold them out. Take that for what it's worth.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2026 03:25 PM (G3T/K)

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Farage was good on Brexit and has been wishy washy on literally everything else. It's anti-establishment coded, and that's going to be good enough for most Britons, I assume (or, a plurality, not most).

I'd vote for Restore, not Reform, if I lived in England.

But, thankfully, my state's GDP is roughly 2x that of England's.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:26 PM (Zn6QU)

269 "I wonder if there is any other historical fact that fully 90% of Americans know about?"

Yes. That America was the only country anywhere and anytime that had slavery.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 22, 2026 03:27 PM (Vpqw1)

270 DARVO, baby. Muzzies constantly call for the elimination of Israel and all Jews, but are "hurt" by talks about the Holocaust...Yeah, right.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 03:27 PM (l3cgK)

271 Speaking of Nazis . . .

Breaking911
@Breaking911
Thousands of Colombians poured into the streets to celebrate Abelardo de la Espriella’s electoral victory and the end of socialist rule.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:28 PM (ndZc7)

272 Y’all. I am laughing right now. Thank you. It’s been a crazy day. I needed this!

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:28 PM (Dd38x)

273
The View welcomes antisemitism with open arms.
The View refuses to push back when Charlamagne that God suggests the Jews control Trump and America.

You could have added that The Spew os a-ok with blasphemy, too. "Bonehead the God" qualifies.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 03:29 PM (s9VOe)

274 My initial thought was the objection was that the Holocaust is a lie. I wouldn't be surprised if that is subtext to the objection but we'll never know unless the idiots speak out.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:29 PM (22ggK)

275 But, thankfully, my state's GDP is roughly 2x that of England's.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:26 PM (Zn6QU)
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Per capita, LOL

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 03:29 PM (rj6Yv)

276
JUST IN: Federal Judge Patrick J. Schiltz unilaterally BLOCKS DOJ grand jury subpoenas of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and his allies

WTF?! Impeach and overturn NOW! Walz needs to face accountability!

Walz is not only CONCEALING fraud but also protecting illegal aliens

The subpoenas had to do with Walz and local areas SHIELDING illegals

Now judges are stepping in to carry out the judicial coup and protect it. It has to stop.
Posted by: beckster

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What was that big celebration we were having a month or two ago about SCOTUS slapping down judges who were getting out of line? Did it pertain only to the deportations?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:29 PM (XJ22o)

277 Speaking of Nazis . . .

Breaking911
@Breaking911
Thousands of Colombians poured into the streets to celebrate Abelardo de la Espriella’s electoral victory and the end of socialist rule.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:28 PM (ndZc7)
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Ain't it odd that all these leftwing tyrants in South America suddenly start losing elections after USAID gets shut down?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (iFTx/)

278 276 What was that big celebration we were having a month or two ago about SCOTUS slapping down judges who were getting out of line? Did it pertain only to the deportations?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:29 PM (XJ22o)

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National injunctions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (Zn6QU)

279 238
Posted by: GF at June 22, 2026 03:15 PM (13Sxt)

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Really?! It's funny, I hadn't read the content all the way down and I thought my Grand Mufti comment was new -- but she got it.

********************************************

She was married to an Egyptian man some years back and lived over there. She taught local women self defense classes and what not; to say she didn't fit in is an understatement.

She used to write and illustrate her own children's books (including a Christmas book featuring some miscreant mice). Very talented lady.

Posted by: GF at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (13Sxt)

280 Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:28 PM (Dd38x)

You've had a busy month let's face it.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (22ggK)

281 277 Ain't it odd that all these leftwing tyrants in South America suddenly start losing elections after USAID gets shut down?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (iFTx/)

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It's just a random coincidence.

Now, it's Israel influencing elections, and the only counter is to bring back USAID.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (Zn6QU)

282 You haven’t lived until you’re invited in for some breakfast kalle pache and the guys you’re with start joking about where the goat has been and why he’s on the table.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (2FQQy)

283 I should run for school board just so I can force a lunch menu that is 110% haram and get a nice juicy lawsuit i can use to viciously denigrate Islam and Muslims under the bright lights of the press.
-----

"I TRIED. I really did. I contacted Sysco, Shamrock, US Foods, even Cargill, trying to find their preferred comestibles. Nobody provides service pack quantities of goat meat basted in Arab semen from the inside. I tried sourcing it from their community, but their enlightened faith demands that hand-raped farm products come from two villages away, and none of them are in my district. What do you want me to do?!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (BI5O2)

284 Speaking of SCOTUS, some major decisions still to be released by the end of this session.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 03:32 PM (rj6Yv)

285 Wonder if the muslims routinely get exceptions for all the sex education bullshittery they porn upon the students.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:32 PM (22ggK)

286 Judge Schlitz was appointed by W . Figures

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 03:33 PM (Iurxt)

287 280 Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:28 PM (Dd38x)

You've had a busy month let's face it.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (22ggK

Being dead has not been peaceful!

I am going to go out away my groceries and head back to the studio to teach the last 2 classes. I have a sick instructor, so 5 classes today, 3 of them weights.

I might get a peach chik fil a shake after all this!

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:33 PM (Dd38x)

288 SCOTUS once again pussied out of taking up the 2A rifle and magazine ban cases. Liars

Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2026 03:33 PM (EJWxb)

289 286 Judge Schlitz was appointed by W . Figures

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 03:33 PM (Iurxt)

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Always have to go back and refer to who the senators from the state were at the time. That's a major part of the equation because of blue slips.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:33 PM (Zn6QU)

290 Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2026 03:30 PM (2FQQy)

The goat was purchased from the next village over?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 22, 2026 03:34 PM (lFFaq)

291 287 I am going to go out away my groceries and head back to the studio to teach the last 2 classes. I have a sick instructor, so 5 classes today, 3 of them weights.

I might get a peach chik fil a shake after all this!

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:33 PM (Dd38x)

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Just put on Peloton and drink a beer instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:34 PM (Zn6QU)

292 Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:33 PM (Dd38x)

Whoever said they'll sleep when they're dead never met you!

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:34 PM (22ggK)

293 What's Arabic for "Veni, Vidi, Vici?"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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jytu, raytu, antsrt

I think.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 03:35 PM (2WIwB)

294 Why did the Mohammedans feel left out? The unit that was taught made no mention of their attempts to wipe out the Jews. Fair’s fair: give credit where it’s due - the followers of Mohammed have been trying to wipe out the Jews for a lot longer than the Nazis!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 22, 2026 03:35 PM (RO8Uk)

295 XX Amendment to the Constitution;

Notwithstanding other language anywhere, the relationship between Muslims and Dhimmi shall be reversed with Muslims deemed to be Dhimmi and Non-Believers to have the status of Muslims. Whatever restrictions and limitations that Islam prescribes for Dhimmis shall therefore be applied to Muslims.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 22, 2026 03:35 PM (Vpqw1)

296 The goat was purchased from the next village over?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 22, 2026 03:34 PM (lFFaq)

Two.

The fatwa requires you to trade the goats you fuck for fucked sheep from a farmer TWO villages away.

Don't be so declassé.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 03:35 PM (BI5O2)

297
- one civilian dead

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 22, 2026 02:44 PM (diia5)
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Said to be shot dead by mistake by a female officer.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:45 PM (V6d0j)



If true, the Canuckians have fallen a long way since Sergeant-at-arms Kevin Vickers shot a mohammedan terrorist in the face with a PPK while leaping around a stone pillar like John Wick being directed by 80s John Woo. Then was photographed walking around the House of Commons like a Boss.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 03:35 PM (y9nCu)

298 >> The goat was purchased from the next village over?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 22, 2026 03:34 PM (lFFaq)

I think one of the jokes was something like “they had to pull it away from its owner”.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2026 03:36 PM (EJWxb)

299 I see tucker carlson just pulled a charles johnson flounce and "left" the republican party.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2026 03:36 PM (0N4FZ)

300
National injunctions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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Ah. Has it had any effect? Have the Hawaiian judges actually stopped with the national injunctions?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:37 PM (XJ22o)

301 271 Speaking of Nazis . . .

Breaking911
@Breaking911
Thousands of Colombians poured into the streets to celebrate Abelardo de la Espriella’s electoral victory and the end of socialist rule.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:28 PM (ndZc7)
______________________________

I'm not celebrating that one yet. It was a close vote (something like 3%). Now, that's decisive, but all the leftist rags (NYT) is calling it "razor thin." Cepeda has refused to concede. He's calling for an investigation into the vote....and on Colombia were talking over 30,000 voting stations. The Socialists don't just quit. There is going to be unrest down there shortly. Also, Abelardo de la Espriella campaigned on taking one the cartels down there, and has to give all his speeches surrounded by bullet proof glass. Keep watching that one.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 03:37 PM (dIske)

302 My brother's 5th Bay Area girlfriend after his third divorce would call you all racist. She told us yesterday she wrote "letters to the government" about her "contractor" who was deported to Peru doncha know.
That made her special you racist Trump lovers.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 03:37 PM (UjdFS)

303 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 03:35 PM (BI5O2)

Lol, I saw your previous comment just after hitting Post and knew I'd messed that up. So grateful it's not a factoid I need to think about in daily life.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 22, 2026 03:37 PM (lFFaq)

304 I might get a peach chik fil a shake after all this!
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 03:33 PM (Dd38x)


Peach schnapps.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 03:37 PM (2WIwB)

305 300
National injunctions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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Ah. Has it had any effect? Have the Hawaiian judges actually stopped with the national injunctions?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 03:37 PM (XJ22o)

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Actually, yes.

National injunctions have fallen off completely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:37 PM (Zn6QU)

306 Ride the space chariot for fifteen minutes:
youtube.com/watch?v=A5KVpV7hCsw

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:38 PM (Jr5Lq)

307 301
I'm not celebrating that one yet. It was a close vote (something like 3%). Now, that's decisive, but all the leftist rags (NYT) is calling it "razor thin." Cepeda has refused to concede. He's calling for an investigation into the vote....and on Colombia were talking over 30,000 voting stations. The Socialists don't just quit. There is going to be unrest down there shortly. Also, Abelardo de la Espriella campaigned on taking one the cartels down there, and has to give all his speeches surrounded by bullet proof glass. Keep watching that one.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 03:37 PM (dIske)

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Cepeda can soon meet Maduro if he refuses to step down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:38 PM (Zn6QU)

308 299 I see tucker carlson just pulled a charles johnson flounce and "left" the republican party.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2026 03:36 PM (0N4FZ)

To quote a famous moobie:

"Well....bye.".

Posted by: Thrawn at June 22, 2026 03:39 PM (KKMoa)

309 We must find a way to teach about hate that doesn't hate you because you hate everyone else so much!

Posted by: GWB at June 22, 2026 03:39 PM (kU0PQ)

310 286 Judge Schlitz was appointed by W . Figures

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 03:33 PM (Iurxt)

Judge Schlitz -
He says he likes to grab for all the gusto he can get.
‘Cause you only go around one time.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 03:39 PM (wVcYX)

311 > My brother's 5th Bay Area girlfriend after his third divorce

Not to be mean or anything, but it sounds like your brother isn't so good at relationships.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 03:39 PM (mkw2N)

312 To quote a famous moobie:

"Well....bye.".
Posted by: Thrawn at June 22, 2026 03:39 PM (KKMoa)

Exactly.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 22, 2026 03:39 PM (lFFaq)

313 Thinking about it, we have Muslims, grooming gangs are happening more than likely.

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 03:39 PM (Ia/+0)

314 Dear Muslims,
I'm sorry you're such a bunch of hypocritical pussies. The school district will be glad to provide you with a one way ticket to Mogadishu, where you will never have to listen to subjects such as the Holocaust, hygiene, math, or honesty.
Sincerely,
Lexington, MA Schools

Posted by: Wally at June 22, 2026 03:39 PM (0e5Te)

315 My favorite part about the Lex Goatfucker is that it was handed down in the 70s.

Not the 770s.

The 1970s.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 03:40 PM (BI5O2)

316 Colt 45 >> Schlitz

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:40 PM (iFTx/)

317 >> Not to be mean or anything, but it sounds like your brother isn't so good at relationships

Who said the power of observation and deduction is dead?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2026 03:40 PM (EJWxb)

318 see tucker carlson just pulled a charles johnson flounce and "left" the republican party.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2026 03:36 PM (0N4FZ)

And then everybody clapped

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:40 PM (22ggK)

319 > My brother's 5th Bay Area girlfriend after his third divorce

Not to be mean or anything, but it sounds like your brother isn't so good at relationships.
Posted by: bonhomme
......

He meets them online.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 03:40 PM (UjdFS)

320 Only 1/5 of the Digwa family committed murder.

A full 4/5 of the family are not murderers.

You can't punish the whole family for the deeds of Vickrum Singh Digwa, even if the whole family...are accessories after the fact.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:41 PM (Zn6QU)

321 TuCa, in his new Christian branding, professes disgust with both parties. I expect him to announce a 3rd party run for prez. But I suck at predictions.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:41 PM (Jr5Lq)

322 My brother's 5th Bay Area girlfriend after his third divorce

Not to be mean or anything, but it sounds like your brother isn't so good at relationships.
Posted by: bonhomme
......

He meets them online.
Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 03:40 PM (UjdFS)
__________

[Makes "call me" gesture]

-- Rando OnlyFans THOT who may or may not have a penis

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 03:41 PM (iFTx/)

323 Since when is teaching historical fact something that requires an apology?

Ah, but they didn't just do that. They had to use it as an object lesson in not hating others, which triggered the people who so often hate others because it was a lesson about anti-semitism. And they are the ones who hate Jews. So, obviously, it was racist and stuff.

The correct answer is "Bite me, Mohammed."

Posted by: GWB at June 22, 2026 03:41 PM (kU0PQ)

324 Over/under on number of times Tucker "leaves" the party over the next year?

I'd set it at 2.5

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:41 PM (22ggK)

325 324 Over/under on number of times Tucker "leaves" the party over the next year?

I'd set it at 2.5

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:41 PM (22ggK)

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Is he a Max Boot or a Jonah Goldberg?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:42 PM (Zn6QU)

326 Tucker left the Republican party? Heading for the National Socialists I reckon

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 03:42 PM (Iurxt)

327 see tucker carlson just pulled a charles johnson flounce and "left" the republican party.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2026 03:36 PM (0N4FZ)

And then everybody clapped
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:40 PM (22

I thought he flounced a long time ago.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (TSnfR)

328 Is he a Max Boot or a Jonah Goldberg?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026

The max boot of Jonah goldbergs?

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (YZ0Fo)

329 Would he feel the same way if German descendants were offended at the presentation? Would he write a different letter to them?

Posted by: AlecK at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (cMlC1)

330 tucker carlson just pulled a charles johnson flounce and "left" the republican party."

With or without a bike seat?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (XuXeR)

331 PBR>>Colt 45 >> Schlitz

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (Vpqw1)

332 But Islam requires that EVERYTHING be about them and their point of view.

So does Progressivism.

Posted by: GWB at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (kU0PQ)

333 328 Is he a Max Boot or a Jonah Goldberg?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026

The max boot of Jonah goldbergs?

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (YZ0Fo)

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It's a good thing Doof isn't around. He wouldn't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (Zn6QU)

334 nood

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:44 PM (Jr5Lq)

335 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:44 PM (2YhKe)

336 TuCa, in his new Christian branding, professes disgust with both parties. I expect him to announce a 3rd party run for prez. But I suck at predictions.
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:41 PM (Jr5Lq)

He's a Christian?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2026 03:44 PM (TSnfR)

337 293 What's Arabic for "Veni, Vidi, Vici?"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
__________________________________

Veni. Vidi. Queritus sum, stupravi et necavi donec mihi res dederunt. (I came. I saw. I whined, raped and killed until they gave me stuff.)

Arabic: jytu, wraytu, wtdhmmrt waghtsbt wqtlt hataa manahuni ma 'uridu.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 03:44 PM (dIske)

338 In 9th grade my history teacher showed a documentary about the Holocaust called " Let My People Go". It was the single biggest impact on my life.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 03:44 PM (afJtY)

339 It's a good thing Doof isn't around. He wouldn't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (Zn6QU)


I miss Doof.

....and Piper.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 03:44 PM (2YhKe)

340 Why are the Arabs embarrassed by the Holocaust ? They had nothing to do with it.

Why aren't the Germans embarrassed ? After all, they actually did it.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 22, 2026 03:45 PM (9X60i)

341 Would he feel the same way if German descendants were offended at the presentation"

Nah. They're white

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 03:45 PM (XuXeR)

342 "He's a Christian?"

Ever since the Kirk assassination, he's been wearing it on his sleeve. It comes up in his every conversation. I take it as insincere.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:45 PM (Jr5Lq)

343 So what Tucker is joining the Marxists
Have fun

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 03:45 PM (Ia/+0)

344 Would he feel the same way if German descendants were offended at the presentation? Would he write a different letter to them?

Posted by: AlecK at June 22, 2026 03:43 PM (cMlC1)

I'll be honest - this is worse than German descendants being offended.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 03:46 PM (22ggK)

345 Schlitz Malt Liquor 32 oz glass bottles.
Bull, not beer.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 03:46 PM (wVcYX)

346 We haven't got room. We can't keep track.
They want to stay, but we don't agree with it.
Mass deportation. That's the only ticket.
Deport deport, deport the f'ing lot
Deport deport, deport the f'ing lot

Posted by: AlecK at June 22, 2026 03:47 PM (cMlC1)

347 Carlson is as Christian as he is anything else. Subject to change without notice.

Goats of New England, beware.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 03:47 PM (BI5O2)

348 "Would he feel the same way if German descendants were offended at the presentation"

It should be taught that Hitler thought if the Muslims hadn't lost the Battle of Tours, the world would be a better place due to Islam.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 22, 2026 03:49 PM (Vpqw1)

349 Said to be shot dead by mistake by a female officer.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Video.

https://tinyurl.com/ykfz4cxe

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (ndZc7)

350 "Goats of New England, beware."

I dunno about goats, but I bet he bones carpmouth when he's out fishing and nobody else is around. While doing the high pitched goofy giggle.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (Jr5Lq)

351 Muslims were on Hitlers side at least in theology

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 03:52 PM (Ia/+0)

352 Do the Holodomor and the Armenian genocide get mandatory mention?

The Armenian genocide should really annoy the musselmen.

Posted by: Goatweed at June 22, 2026 03:53 PM (jK3NL)

353 340 Why are the Arabs embarrassed by the Holocaust ? They had nothing to do with it.

Why aren't the Germans embarrassed ? After all, they actually did it.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 22, 2026 03:45 PM (9X60i)
__________________________

The religious leaders of Iraq and Syria (1941) actually supported and fought with the Axis...eventually getting their collective ass kicked and they escaped to Berlin with Hitler's approval.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 03:53 PM (dIske)

354 Please let’s get back the Hagia Sophia!

Posted by: Goatweed at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (jK3NL)

355 Students should be taught about the Muslim units in the German Army such as the 13th Mountain Weapons Division SS "Handschar"

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 22, 2026 03:54 PM (Vpqw1)

356 Germans were embarrassed, they felt so.bad for destroying the Jews to make up they let in Muslims
See , they aren't racists

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 03:58 PM (Ia/+0)

357 You know I bet Mel Gibson is throwing up his hands in exasperation these days...

Posted by: Drunken Yoda at June 22, 2026 04:05 PM (ilHZO)

358
Said to be shot dead by mistake by a female officer.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Video.

https://tinyurl.com/ykfz4cxe
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 03:50 PM (ndZc7)



I guess she mistook him for a dog...

Shitty way to go. The way she flips to her left and caps him immediately tells me she was terrified and panicking. Terrified is acceptable in combat, panicking is not.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 04:07 PM (y9nCu)

Keir Starmer Announces Resignation as His Pre-Arranged Replacement Is Sworn In To Parliament

Before that, here's a completely unrelated story.

UK Police told mother of daughter stabbed to death 23 times with screwdriver by Rwandan 'asylum seeker' to 'tone down' statement to avoid anti-migrant 'violence'

27-year-old Rhiannon Whyte was stabbed 23 times with a screwdriver in October 2024. Her killer, Deng Majek, was a Sudanese national and was later sentenced to 29 years in prison.

by: Hayden Cunningham

UK Police told mother of daughter stabbed to death 23 times with screwdriver by Rwandan 'asylum seeker' to 'tone down' statement to avoid anti-migrant 'violence'
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Police in the United Kingdom encouraged the family of a hotel worker who was murdered by an asylum seeker to moderate their public statements out of concern that the killing could trigger anti-immigration protests.

27-year-old Rhiannon Whyte was stabbed 23 times with a screwdriver in October 2024. Her killer, Deng Majek, was a Sudanese national and was later sentenced to 29 years in prison.

The killing came just months after the Southport child murders, which sparked anti-migrant riots and demonstrations across parts of the UK. Whyte's mother, Siobhan, said police were concerned about the possibility of the murder prompting further unrest, saying they didn't want "another Southport."

"Did they tell us what to say? No. Did they guide us so it didn't look so aggressive? Maybe. I was aggressive -- they toned it down," she said, according to the Daily Mail.

"Those migrants were out within two hours -- I think that's because [the police] feared violence," Siobhan said.

Following the revelation that Majek had arrived in the UK on a small boat just three months before the attack, Siobhan publicly accused Prime Minister Keir Starmer of having "blood on his hands."

Keir Starmer hung on to power in order to have an "orderly" -- that is, scripted and pre-decided by party elites -- transition of power.

The transition involves making another leftist, Andy Burnham, PM. Starmer couldn't do this right away because Burnham had actually left Parliament (I think to be mayor of Manchester). So Starmer hung on to his seat to allow time for the currently-serving leftist Member of Parliament of Burnham's old district to resign, and then for a by-election to be scheduled to fill the seat, and then for Burnham to be elected as an MP again.

By the way I wasn't even 100% certain that the current MP for Manchester resigned specifically to allow Burnahm to run to replace him when I wrote that paragraph. I just assumed it. But now, having bothered to check, yes this was all arranged by party leaders.

He was literally sworn in as a "new" MP a couple of hours ago.


And now that he's an MP again, he will be coronated PM.

And then he'll serve until the next required election in 2029.

But not yet. Starmer says he'll remain in office for a while as they further scheme to coronate Burnham. He says he'll definitely be out by September, though.


Neil Farage, leader of Reform, is calling for a sooner election -- a "snap" general election -- as are many, many others.

Politics UK
@PolitlcsUK

🚨 NEW: Nigel Farage has called for a general election following Keir Starmer's resignation

But that will be ignored, of course, because while Labour can arrange and confabulate a single win in a Labour stronghold, they will be destroyed in any national election.

Democracy. Mmmm, drink it in.


Meanwhile, Rupert Lowe, leader of the Restore Party -- which is like Reform only not soft and cucky -- rejects claims that his Gang Rape Report is "Islamophobic."

Rupert Lowe MP
@RupertLowe10

Vile attempts by Zack Polanski, Humza Yousaf and many others to demonise me following the release of our rape gang inquiry report will not work.

For decades the mass rape of vulnerable white girls by gangs of Pakistani Muslims was covered up exactly because of efforts like this.

It will not work anymore.

There is a clear link between religion and these abhorrent crimes that have stained on our nation for so very long.

That religion is Islam, and other politicians must finally find the courage to say so.

Threats, abuse and intimidation will not work.

We have held our hearings, the report has been published and now we move onto the private prosecution phase.

Our aim is to put rapists and their enablers in prison.

That is now our objective.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:22 PM




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1 England is a fucked up place. I'm eternally grateful that my ancestors left four hundred years ago, because it's apparently been a fucked up place for a long time.

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 01:24 PM (VJX5o)

2 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:24 PM (vf0Uk)

3 I wish this would actually change something for the better.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 01:24 PM (O7YUW)

4 I wish he was a private citizen where the people could sue the f*ck out of him for all the rape and murder he protected and imported in his time as a 'leader.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:25 PM (vf0Uk)

5 "I shall spend more time on the most important job. Being the best husband I can to my fantastic wife Vic... and being best dad I can to my beautiful children, who have been my pride and joy"

... and taking it hard up the pooper from Uke rentboys

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:25 PM (iFTx/)

6 I like to refer to him as Khmer Starmer.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (T+CvP)

7 Keir Starmer can’t just resign. He should be prosecuted.

The poster misspelled "executed".

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (Riz8t)

8 England is boned.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (HinvH)

9 >>> UK Police told mother of daughter stabbed to death 23 times with screwdriver by Rwandan 'asylum seeker' to 'tone down' statement to avoid anti-migrant 'violence'


Different cultures are... different.
Different means not the same.
Not the same means not equal.
Not equal means one is greater than the other.

Do you hate your own cultures o much that you have to import mass amounts of literal relative shit?
Yes, yes you do.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (/lPRQ)

10 Rwandan or Sudanese?

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (GP8V/)

11 It amazes me how many are on board with the 'they kill you, but you can't comment on it' bandwagon.

Europe is dying, quickly.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (vf0Uk)

12 "Whyte was stabbed 23 times with a screwdriver in October 2024. Her killer, Deng Majek, was a Sudanese national"

So I think it probably wasn't a Sikh ceremonial screwdriver. Still, I'd like to know if it was a phillips, flathead, or one of those wicked torx.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (Jr5Lq)

13 Oh, you see that? I'm being repressed!

Posted by: Dennis, Constitutional Peasant at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (wVcYX)

14 Meanwhile, Rupert Lowe, leader of the Restore Party -- which is like Reform only not soft and cucky
-

Farage is a sham, another fake.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:27 PM (V6d0j)

15 The UK has a special unit that was much like a now defunded DoJ unit that would swoop down on crime victim families to 'coach' them on what to say.

Who says the Stasi went away?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 01:27 PM (2GVsD)

16 There is a clear link between religion and these abhorrent crimes that have stained on our nation for so very long.

That religion is Islam, and other politicians must finally find the courage to say so.

Look, just because Muhammad is the example of ideal Muslim behavior for all other Muslims to follow, including having multiple sex slaves he took by force and having sex with his 9 year old child bride, doesn't mean they aren't compatible with evil colonial Western white culture! They add important diversity!!!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 22, 2026 01:27 PM (ycI94)

17 Democracy. Mmmm, drink it in.

It is precious.

My precious ...

Posted by: Nancy "Smegol" Pelosi (D-CA) at June 22, 2026 01:27 PM (0sNs1)

18 He didn't mention us at all in his resignation speech.

*sob*

Posted by: Ukrainian rent boys at June 22, 2026 01:28 PM (pBJ6M)

19 14 Meanwhile, Rupert Lowe, leader of the Restore Party -- which is like Reform only not soft and cucky
-
Farage is a sham, another fake.

I'm not convinced that's the case, but regardless, he's light years ahead of Starmer or any other Labourite, and I'd be willing to give him a chance. As I've said before, the nightmare is that Reform and Restore split the vote.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:28 PM (Riz8t)

20 Still, I'd like to know if it was a phillips, flathead, or one of those wicked torx.
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Robertson at June 22, 2026 01:28 PM (0sNs1)

21 He cried for himself.
But not the 250,000+ girls raped, tortured and killed.

He cried for himself.
But not Henry Novak.

He cries for himself.
But not the indigenous people of the United Kingdom.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (73/SM)

22 >>> Keir Starmer resigned in disgrace as UK Prime Minister.

No he is not.
He is resigning knowing his job was only half done.

People need to get it through their heads that these are not 'oopsies'. They hate the 'unwashed masses' and want you to live in misery.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (/lPRQ)

23 The Politi_Rican X post is dy-na-mite!

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (rj6Yv)

24 England is a fucked up place. I'm eternally grateful that my ancestors left four hundred years ago, because it's apparently been a fucked up place for a long time.
Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 01:24 PM (VJX5o)

You got that right, mate.

Posted by: War of the Roses at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (wVcYX)

25
"I shall spend more time on the most important job. Being the best husband I can to my fantastic wife Vic...


Woof. THAT'S what happened to Vic?


Didn't see THAT coming.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (vf0Uk)

26 Meanwhile in Canada proposed law C-9 just past the lower house that would punish people for 'hate speech' for quoting certain passages from the Christian Bible.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (2GVsD)

27 Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (1z0T4)

28 UK cops should be forbidden entry into the US.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (rJ48h)

29 JIS >>>>> Phillips

Begun, the screwdriver wars have.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 01:31 PM (0sNs1)

30 "Whyte was stabbed 23 times with a screwdriver in October 2024. Her killer, Deng Majek, was a Sudanese national"

So I think it probably wasn't a Sikh ceremonial screwdriver. Still, I'd like to know if it was a phillips, flathead, or one of those wicked torx.
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (Jr5Lq)

When Allen wrenches are outlawed, only outlaws will be able to assemble Ikea furniture .

Posted by: LASue at June 22, 2026 01:31 PM (1MCHl)

31 Still, I'd like to know if it was a phillips, flathead, or one of those wicked torx.
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM



Reed and Prince would like a word......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:31 PM (vf0Uk)

32 Camelot is no longer a silly place.

It is now a Labour camp.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 01:31 PM (2GVsD)

33 It's cute to see the Museum of Past Failures play with their little toy Byzantine government over there.

I was hoping for Russian tanks in London this summer to help clean their muz invasion problem up, but I'll take a slow slide into the dumpster of civil war as a consolidation prize.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 01:32 PM (DfK6m)

34 Our aim is to put rapists and their enablers in prison.
=====

Um, the rapists are the police.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 01:32 PM (mWKAz)

35
"Conspiracy" Nuts: Everything seems so fake and so gay

Other People: No it's not. That's just crazy talk.

Everything: {Fake and Gay, Fake and Gay, Fake and Gay.....}

"Conspiracy" Nuts: So, ummmm...

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:32 PM (22ggK)

36 Starmer resigned to spend more time with his gimp suit

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 01:32 PM (Iurxt)

37
But not yet. Starmer says he'll remain in office for a while as they further scheme to coronate Burnham. He says he'll definitely be out by September, though.

I figure that Keir Starmer hopes to add 10,000-20,000 little girls raped by muslims to his legacy-

before getting the boot in September.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 01:32 PM (iJfKG)

38 When Allen wrenches are outlawed, only outlaws will be able to assemble Ikea furniture .
Posted by: LASue at June 22, 2026 01:31 PM

No, no, that's what we're here for on Tool Time.

Posted by: The wenches of Tim Allen at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM (0sNs1)

39 *pauses*

New musical: Keir Starmer in Don't Cry for Me Londonstan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM (2GVsD)

40 Canada and Britain in a race to the bottom. It is neck and neck.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM (Gqar8)

41 Open borders is one of the clearest examples that politicians of the west are ideologically and financially obligated to groups and ideas that are diametrically opposed to the welfare and opinions of the general public.

It's an 80/20 issue and they refuse to take the easy win.

I've heard there are only two ways to get a politician to do what you want. Show them the money, or show them the votes. All the talking is a show for the rubes. It always comes down to money or votes. The votes are clearly there, but they refuse. The money must be very very good.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM (mkw2N)

42 Cricket instead of Baseball
Soccer instead of Football
230v instead of 220v
Drive on Left instead of Right
School years instead of school grades
Shitty food instead of good food

Ah Just snarking my British friends.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM (GP8V/)

43 Am I missing anything by not really giving a shit about any of this stuff?

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM (1S3fY)

44 muslhams rape. It's what they do.

They add murder just to spice things up a bit.


Know islham, no peace.

No islham, know peace.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM (vf0Uk)

45 Zack Polanski is a gay Jewish guy who leads the Greens and likes the muzzies.
They throw him off a roof then rape his corpse

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 01:34 PM (Iurxt)

46 Am I missing anything by not really giving a shit about any of this stuff?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM

Did someone mention missing?

Posted by: The Fourth Shot at June 22, 2026 01:34 PM (0sNs1)

47 It amazes me how many are on board with the 'they kill you, but you can't comment on it' bandwagon.

Sponge
-----------

Boy howdy do I have some American Statistics for you.....

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:34 PM (22ggK)

48 Am I missing anything by not really giving a shit about any of this stuff?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM (1S3fY)


All the fun, of course......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:34 PM (vf0Uk)

49 There's more horseshit in UK politics than here.

Amazeballs.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 01:34 PM (jehhT)

50 *pauses*

New musical: Keir Starmer in Don't Cry for Me Londonstan.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 01:33 PM (2GVsD)

Featuring the hit song Don't kill me, Muslims! I'm on Your Side!.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2026 01:35 PM (qx7Zg)

51 Shockingly, the BBC -- which usually whitewashes attacks by illegals -- has even more vile details of Rhiannon Whyte's murder.

"Deng Majek stabbed Rhiannon Whyte 23 times with a screwdriver in a frenzied 90-second attack in 2024 after following the 27-year-old to Bescot Stadium railway station in Walsall. He was later caught on CCTV dancing and laughing."

"She was on the platform when Majek launched his attack, stabbing her 19 times in the head, with 11 injuries to her skull, and one wound so deep it pierced her brain stem."

They don't even know how old this cockroach is. Not joking. These savages are so thinly vetted they don't even know their true ages.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yvwdgjpj3o

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:35 PM (iFTx/)

52 Don't forget that Australia is pretty totalitarian now.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 01:35 PM (2GVsD)

53 Did someone mention missing?
Posted by: The Fourth Shot at June 22, 2026 01:34 PM (0sNs1)
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Not a miss. A lateral excursion.

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2026 01:36 PM (1S3fY)

54 England is a fucked up place. I'm eternally grateful that my ancestors left four hundred years ago, because it's apparently been a fucked up place for a long time.
Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 01:24 PM (VJX5o)

You got that right, mate.
Posted by: War of the Roses at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (wVcYX)
====

YT has at least one man-in-the-street video with the interviewer asking London Brits where the UK GDP stands in comparison to US states (the answer, of course, is 51st). The reactions are priceless.

Worse than Mississippi. I would much rather live in Hattiesburg than any part of not-so-jolly England.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 01:36 PM (rj6Yv)

55 I've finally gathered all my screwdrivers into one place, seven pounds worth. Most are phillips. Most of those are stripped to shit, worthless for screwing, but still fully stab-capable.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:36 PM (Jr5Lq)

56 Keir Starmer was wise to bail. We could have had Kamala here.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (fkjGs)

57 Bernie-isms have infiltrated Brit politics. The latest attack against Restore is that it is the millionaires and billionaires that are convincing the working class to kick out migrants even though migrants add to Britain's GDP and the working class will be poorer for having kicked out the migrants.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (Dv3i1)

58 Dear English lads, you must first get rid of all the effing cameras in your country. Do what must be done.

Then get to work.

At a minimum, it will slow down those wanting to enter the UK when they hear the stories. IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (fgSb9)

59 > Canada and Britain in a race to the bottom. It is neck and neck.

I've seen so many posts by Euros visiting the US for the World cup in which they are astonished at the world class stadiums, the amazing, food, and the fun people of the US. Nobody's praising Canada. Nobody's talking positively about the food, the people, the facilities, the atmosphere, or anything else about them. Canada blows.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (mkw2N)

60 can to my fantastic wife Vic... "

So that's what happened to Vic?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (cGjQu)

61 I've heard there are only two ways to get a politician to do what you want. Show them the money, or show them the votes. All the talking is a show for the rubes. It always comes down to money or votes. The votes are clearly there, but they refuse. The money must be very very good.
Posted by: bonhomme


Ultimately, there is also rope to be shown.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (/lPRQ)

62 >> There is a clear link between religion and these abhorrent crimes that have stained on our nation for so very long.

That religion is Islam, and other politicians must finally find the courage to say so.

islam is a poisonous cult who seeks the destruction of western society and blind adherence to its evil ideology. It has no place in a civilized nation and should be fought on all fronts vigorously and mercilessly lest we be infected by its insidious cultists.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (/nX+B)

63 Cops here in the USA were arresting people for going to parks and the beach alone or with a kid during the day not long back. While backing rioters who came out at night...

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:38 PM (22ggK)

64 I blame the Normans. Harald caught an arrow in the eye and they haven't been the same since.

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 01:38 PM (VJX5o)

65 52 Don't forget that Australia is pretty totalitarian now.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 01:35 PM (2GVsD)

Yes. The Anglosphere is circling the drain. What is the primary cause of this?

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 01:38 PM (Gqar8)

66
Considered at least swinging by the flack tower in Chicago this week on my way through, but Mayor Johnston's Transfemicide State of Emergency declaration is in effect, so, no.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 01:39 PM (Y8DZL)

67 Tim Walz, exemplar of Democrat Modern Masculinity, on the reflecting pool issues:

"Found an imaginary problem, said only they could fix it, didn't listen to experts, hired buddies who grifted millions, failed miserably, bragged how great it went.

The entire Trump presidency in a nutshell."

-- Tim Walz posting on X

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 01:39 PM (0sNs1)

68 Bit of a divergence between the US and Canada/UK/NZ/Austrailia.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 22, 2026 01:39 PM (rJ48h)

69 The UK is going to need a shitload of Baskerville hounds to start removing the imported vermin.

With apologies to zombie Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at June 22, 2026 01:39 PM (1z0T4)

70 What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Robertson"

Yeah.

/security torx

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:39 PM (cGjQu)

71
27-year-old Rhiannon Whyte was stabbed 23 times with a screwdriver in October 2024. Her killer, Deng Majek, was a Sudanese national and was later sentenced to 29 years in prison.



1 year per stab, 6 years for spilling biologically hazardous material on the sidewalk.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM (y9nCu)

72 The UK really is f'd, you can't even use tagging spray, it looks like pepper spray (which is banned) in case you might injure the perp, WTF.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM (ubCxQ)

73 They should be decorating street lamps in London with the corpses of these invaders. Is there not a single man with courage left in that country?

Posted by: Vengeance at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM (L4tHq)

74 Tim Walz may think and speak better if he took the butt plug out.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM (fgSb9)

75 islam is a poisonous cult who seeks the destruction of western society and blind adherence to its evil ideology. It has no place in a civilized nation and should be fought on all fronts vigorously and mercilessly lest we be infected by its insidious cultists.
____

Ok, but, what about the kebabs?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM (Dv3i1)

76 Resigning but not yet. Starmer taking the J. Wellington Wimpy approach.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM (n5tGW)

77 What is the primary cause of this?"

Guilt, ennui, etc...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM (cGjQu)

78 Cops here in the USA were arresting people for going to parks and the beach alone or with a kid during the day not long back. While backing rioters who came out at night...
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:38 PM (22ggK)
=======

And a California governor and his cronies living it up at the French Laundry.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (rj6Yv)

79 They throw him off a roof then rape his corpse
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 01:34 PM (Iurxt)


"Whatever it takes to make them feel included."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (vf0Uk)

80 I spent the last week hobnobbing with a bunch of UK folks. Brainwashed and confused sums it up. I don't hold out any hope for that place.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (OxX9V)

81 Good time for the last Jacobite claimant to raise an army, subdue the Windsors, and dissolve parliament

Posted by: brak at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (sCxmP)

82 Deng has bros Ding, Dang, and Dung. So I posit.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (Jr5Lq)

83 When Brit Lass had to take the train in the 90's she always carried with her a can of red spray paint.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (22ggK)

84 Rumors are the guy who threw the kid in the croc pit is an east African migrant, from the alleged name.

Which, of course, you knew when they refused to disclose any information about him.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (73/SM)

85 The way I understand it, Starmer is a Champaign Socialist, and Burnham is just you regular Socialist.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 01:42 PM (GD0B3)

86 Tim Walz may think and speak better if he took the butt plug out.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM (fgSb9)


When reamed so, shit just falls out. Plug is necessary.

He does, however, remove the plug to insert his head in the evenings.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:42 PM (vf0Uk)

87 >>Ok, but, what about the kebabs?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM

It's meat on a stick. How difficult can that be?

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 01:42 PM (VJX5o)

88 80 I spent the last week hobnobbing with a bunch of UK folks. Brainwashed and confused sums it up. I don't hold out any hope for that place.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (OxX9V)

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Please explain. They think muslims are "fine?"

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 22, 2026 01:43 PM (fgSb9)

89
The replacement is so bad they'll probably be begging for Starmer back in 6 months.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 01:43 PM (OkYzo)

90
Nobody's praising Canada. Nobody's talking positively about the food
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (mkw2N)




See? Even the poofter Euros know the evil of poutine.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 01:43 PM (y9nCu)

91 It's meat on a stick. How difficult can that be?"

It's not.

/Vlad

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:43 PM (cGjQu)

92
So when are Tim Walz and Weepy Keir going to open a bed and breakfast on Fire Island?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 01:43 PM (iJfKG)

93 87 >>Ok, but, what about the kebabs?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:40 PM

It's meat on a stick. How difficult can that be?
Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 01:42 PM (VJX5o)

They were doing that 50,000 years ago. Hell the Neanderthals did kebabs.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 01:43 PM (Gqar8)

94 69 The UK is going to need a shitload of Baskerville hounds to start removing the imported vermin.

With apologies to zombie Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at June 22, 2026 01:39 PM (1z0T4)
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Same here in the US:
Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
·
18h
The same 21-year-old Jashanpreet Singh from Yuba City caused a fatal chain-reaction crash on Oct 21, 2025, on the I-10 Freeway in Ontario, CA.

His semi plowed into stopped traffic, killing 3 people and injuring others. He was initially charged with DUI and vehicular manslaughter (DUI charges were later dropped after toxicology came back negative).

He faces gross negligence manslaughter counts.

Matching name, age, and hometown — it’s the same driver!

Posted by: beckster at June 22, 2026 01:44 PM (kX27y)

95 Still shelter in place in Montreal terror/hostage event.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:44 PM (V6d0j)

96 Tim Walz, exemplar of Democrat Modern Masculinity, on the reflecting pool issues:

"Found an imaginary problem, said only they could fix it, didn't listen to experts, hired buddies who grifted millions, failed miserably, bragged how great it went.

The entire Trump presidency in a nutshell."

-- Tim Walz posting on X
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 01:39 PM (0sNs1)


Your clan destroyed it after they finished. However, the biggest part is that it's not leaking 30,000 gallons a week anymore.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:44 PM (vf0Uk)

97 Starmer couldn't do this right away because Burnham had actually left Parliament (I think to be mayor of Manchester). So Starmer hung on to his seat to allow time for the currently-serving leftist Member of Parliament of Burnham's old district to resign, and then for a by-election to be scheduled to fill the seat, and then for Burnham to be elected as an MP again.
____________

Starmer blocked Burnham from standing for election on the Labor ticket a couple of years ago in order to avoid exactly this result.

Posted by: Carl Spackler at June 22, 2026 01:44 PM (XvL8K)

98 I assume there will be celebratory gang rapes to recognize the rape gangs aren't going to be crushed by these criminal politicians.

Posted by: torabora at June 22, 2026 01:44 PM (KtOUo)

99 Mark my words, Burnham isn't going to do anything about immigration. The reason he's being "corronated" into PM is because the Labour Party is about to try a "LOOK SQUIRREL!!!" strategy to remain in office. Burnham is going to try to switch the focus to the Economy of the UK. The media outlets are already playing up is "economic genius." Even the articles coming out about him now are fawning over his "talents" with finances. You have to read to about paragraph 10 to see where he stands on immigration. It's not pretty.

While he says that they need to get better control on the small boats coming across the Channel, he's on record saying the UK needs to soften immigration rules. Got that? Soften them from what they are NOW.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 01:44 PM (dIske)

100 95 Still shelter in place in Montreal terror/hostage event.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:44 PM (V6d0j)

Maybe they’ll never come out. Hopefully.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (Gqar8)

101 Simple solution to the UK Muslim problem. When males enter, they get neutered, and their penis is replaced by something like this valve:

https://tinyurl.com/58bdmsxh+

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (qx7Zg)

102 "YT has at least one man-in-the-street video with the interviewer asking London Brits where the UK GDP stands in comparison to US states (the answer, of course, is 51st). The reactions are priceless."

That's not correct. UK's GDP is over $4 trillion. That's Number 5 in the world. The only US state with (maybe) a larger GDP is California. Mississippi's GDP is under $200 billion.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

103 @TonySeruga
·
18h
The same 21-year-old Jashanpreet Singh from Yuba City caused a fatal chain-reaction crash on Oct 21, 2025, on the I-10 Freeway in Ontario, CA.



At least California kept their newly minted CDL driver.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (vf0Uk)

104 > Ok, but, what about the kebabs?

I know this is a joke, but the hardest part about making a kebab is making the marinade. That part is maybe a 2/10 difficulty.

Cube your lamb or chicken, soak the meat in the marinade for a day, skewer the meat with some bell peppers and onions, grill the skewers with meat and veggies on them. Viola, delicious kebabs. Easy peasy.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (mkw2N)

105 I spent the last week hobnobbing with a bunch of UK folks. Brainwashed and confused sums it up. I don't hold out any hope for that place.
---
70 million people in that asylum.

I'll bet there's only about 100k that actually want freedom.

The rest want maybe a little more safety--but not at the expense of the security of social spending or the risk of being called racist.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (73/SM)

106 95 Still shelter in place in Montreal terror/hostage event.

Yes, Chabad neighborhood near my relatives. Looks like a police officer and one terrorist are dead, cops now surrounding Lubavitcher homes searching for a 2nd terrorist.

Posted by: beckster at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (kX27y)

107 islam is a poisonous cult who seeks the destruction of western society and blind adherence to its evil ideology. It has no place in a civilized nation and should be fought on all fronts vigorously and mercilessly lest we be infected by its insidious cultists.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (/nX+B)

Stop talking about our partners for peace that way.

Posted by: J D Vance at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (vSvIl)

108 islam is a poisonous cult who seeks the destruction of western society and blind adherence to its evil ideology. It has no place in a civilized nation and should be fought on all fronts vigorously and mercilessly lest we be infected by its insidious cultists.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (/nX+B)
====

It's really cool.

Posted by: J.D. Vance over the weekend at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (mWKAz)

109 Please explain. They think muslims are "fine?"

Kinda. Brits I know still kowtow to multiculti - must have curry and all that. They also were so pleased that they could get cheap broccoli over there.
And NHS. But it has problems...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (cGjQu)

110 But not the 250,000+ girls raped, tortured and killed.

That number is contested.
A number that is NOT contested is the 13,000 subset of those cases over which Starmer was directly responsible, before becoming PM. 2008-2013, he was in charge of the Crown Prosecution Service. Those were the cases which the CPS dropped because the witnesses were unreliable.
And according to Islamic law, sure. You need four other witnesses and if she's been gang raped by four dudes, all those dudes have to say is "nuh uh, dindu nuffin".

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (gKWVE)

111 Doner kebab is the apex of thousands of years of development of kebab technology.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (77rzZ)

112
Nobody's praising Canada. Nobody's talking positively about the food
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 01:37 PM (mkw2N)


CANADA

Two Times Lamer Than Europeans and Three Times As Needy!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (iJfKG)

113 @88

>>Please explain. They think muslims are "fine?"

You're talking about a people who add random u's and e's to words.

There's something mental about Brit-ish people.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (XV/Pl)

114 "Nobody's praising Canada. Nobody's talking positively about the food"

The Maple Syrup Flavor Wheel:
https://tinyurl.com/yxmdkd5e

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (Jr5Lq)

115 Is there anything left in the UK that's worth a shit?

Their monarchy are a bunch of inbred retards.
Their food sucks with the force of a supermassive black hole.
Their elected politicians have sold the entire nation down the river for decades.
The weather is ass.
Have I mentioned the food?

Posted by: ballistic at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (oqH4h)

116 While he says that they need to get better control on the small boats coming across the Channel, he's on record saying the UK needs to soften immigration rules. Got that? Soften them from what they are NOW.
_____

Out: every human being has a soul
In: every human being adds to Britain's GDP!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (Dv3i1)

117 Posted by: J D Vance at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (vSvIl)

*hordemind Activate!*

Posted by: J.D. Vance over the weekend at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (mWKAz)

118 > Rumors are the guy who threw the kid in the croc pit is an east African migrant, from the alleged name.

Rumor also says he had TWO minders who were fucking around on their phones while he attacked the child.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (mkw2N)

119 It amazes me how many are on board with the 'they kill you, but you can't comment on it' bandwagon.

Now do blacks and hispanics here

Posted by: Howdy at June 22, 2026 01:48 PM (wNj5H)

120 The Pool should have been lined with blue glazed tiles.
Underwater cleaning bots to scrub them after dark.
This isn't hard to fix which begs the question, who wants this colossal eff up?

Posted by: torabora at June 22, 2026 01:48 PM (KtOUo)

121 Did not know the people in Montreal were Jewish, sheltering in place.Retraction of my previous comment.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 01:48 PM (Gqar8)

122
Now do blacks and hispanics here
Posted by: Howdy at June 22, 2026 01:48 PM (wNj5H)


We're not being imprisoned for talking about them when they murder or rape.

Not comparable.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:48 PM (vf0Uk)

123 Yes, Chabad neighborhood near my relatives. Looks like a police officer and one terrorist are dead, cops now surrounding Lubavitcher homes searching for a 2nd terrorist.
Posted by: beckster at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (kX27y)
====

Do you know where exactly? Cote St Luc?

Posted by: J.D. Vance over the weekend at June 22, 2026 01:49 PM (mWKAz)

124 Don't Canadians put gravy on French fries?

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 01:49 PM (OkYzo)

125 Please explain. They think muslims are "fine?"
Posted by: Seems Legit

They don't know who to vote for. Reform is called right wing and Rupert Lowe is called a bad man. Labour is destroying the country and the greens are now a mohammedan party.

They think they are not allowed to vote for people who will fix the problems.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:49 PM (OxX9V)

126 Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (OxX9V)

From whereabouts?

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:49 PM (22ggK)

127 Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:38 PM (22ggK)

Not everywhere . Lot of PDs and Sheriffs were very considerate of those that refused the lockdowns but yeah those examples stand out.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 01:49 PM (GP8V/)

128 >Ok, but, what about the kebabs?
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Kebabs at 3am on a Tuesday after getting sloshed at the local pub is a great deal in exchange for the rape, torture and murder of 250k girls.
If one of your group gets picked off and sent to their sex slave dungeon at the back of the shop, oh well ....

/s/ Every single Labour voter.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 01:49 PM (73/SM)

129 I spent the last week hobnobbing with a bunch of UK folks. Brainwashed and confused sums it up. I don't hold out any hope for that place.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (OxX9V)
________

All the good ones are dead or came here. Plus, the class system in UK is pure poison. Those in the lower ranks have been conditioned for dozens of generations that they are inferior and deserve to get lorded over by the elites. It's kind of their defense mechanism, to accept their lot in life and not think about it too much.

Those in the upper ranks have been conditioned to think they are superior to the lowyard proles -- and are entitled to take what they want -- and that everything they do is enlightened awesomeness.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:49 PM (iFTx/)

130 The reflecting pool was beautiful when completed.

The TDS retards dumped shit into it and hacked at it, destroying parts of it, including the water.

It's more of why we just can't have nice things in this country.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (vf0Uk)

131 What England needs is THE BEATLES!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (Cqx++)

132 Posted by: Howdy at June 22, 2026 01:48 PM (wNj5H)

Did I summon you in 47? That was weird.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (22ggK)

133 @124

>>Don't Canadians put gravy on French fries?

Not going to fault them for that, Disco Fries are awesome.

Now mayonnaise on French fries? That's a whole other thing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (XV/Pl)

134 I spent the last week hobnobbing with a bunch of UK folks. Brainwashed and confused sums it up. I don't hold out any hope for that place.
---
70 million people in that asylum.

I'll bet there's only about 100k that actually want freedom.

The rest want maybe a little more safety--but not at the expense of the security of social spending or the risk of being called racist.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (73/SM)


Hard to believe these were the same people who went out and colonized - and civilized - much of the world. I'm actually sad to see their fall.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (T+CvP)

135
Canadians have Ketchup flavored potato chips.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (OkYzo)

136 Posted by: J D Vance at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (vSvIl)

*hordemind Activate!*
Posted by: J.D. Vance over the weekend at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (mWKAz)

Word.

Posted by: J D Vance at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (vSvIl)

137 27 Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at June 22, 2026 01:29 PM (1z0T4)

There is always another feckless dingbat waiting to be coronated.

Posted by: Joemarine at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (y171U)

138 "YT has at least one man-in-the-street video with the interviewer asking London Brits where the UK GDP stands in comparison to US states (the answer, of course, is 51st). The reactions are priceless."

That's not correct. UK's GDP is over $4 trillion. That's Number 5 in the world. The only US state with (maybe) a larger GDP is California. Mississippi's GDP is under $200 billion.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

I believe the comparison was GDP per capita.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (qx7Zg)

139 It is remarkable, and IMPRESSIVE to witness the vigorous response from King Chucky 3 with regards to the grooming gang crisis in his dominion!

And Princess Saint Catherine, why she is positively working her little butt off in all those treatment centers and safe houses she has established for the victims!!

The British Royal Family, truly role models for the ages!!!

Posted by: kallisto at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (GY74I)

140 Yes, Chabad neighborhood near my relatives. Looks like a police officer and one terrorist are dead, cops now surrounding Lubavitcher homes searching for a 2nd terrorist.

Posted by: beckster at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (kX27y)
-

Still conflicting reports about whether an officer was murdered or wounded.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (V6d0j)

141 islam is a poisonous cult who seeks the destruction of western society and blind adherence to its evil ideology. It has no place in a civilized nation and should be fought on all fronts vigorously and mercilessly lest we be infected by its insidious cultists.
---
woman north of Houston lost her job over the weekend for saying basically that out loud while a muslim agitator recorded her.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (73/SM)

142 The Euro elites WANT the immigrants murdering the locales - just as any conquering elite would. Make sure the plebes know their place and what will happen if they bother their new overlords.

But the Brits aren't even really willing to solve this with ballots - better to see your daughter raped and murdered then be called racist!...let alone do the things they should be doing now.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (sKqQm)

143 Canadians have a silver medal in hockey. 🤣

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (n5tGW)

144 What England needs is THE BEATLES!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (Cqx++)


Can we send them our June Bugs? Those things are f*cking retarded and server no purpose but to crash into things and get smashed.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (vf0Uk)

145 >>Cube your lamb or chicken, soak the meat in the marinade for a day, skewer the meat with some bell peppers and onions, grill the skewers with meat and veggies on them. Viola, delicious kebabs. Easy peasy.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM

Grill them over a camel chip fire for authenticity.

Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (VJX5o)

146 And his replacement will continue the Cultural Marxism

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (sgkY8)

147 118 > Rumors are the guy who threw the kid in the croc pit is an east African migrant, from the alleged name.

Rumor also says he had TWO minders who were fucking around on their phones while he attacked the child.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (mkw2N)
___________________________

Nope, over the weekend the UK police actually held a press conference to announce that the guy was white. Which is humorous in its own right. The refused to release his name at that time, however. In the UK, they can't release names (under law) until formal charges are levied. They let this guy out on bond until September without any formal charges after throwing a 3 year old to the crocodiles...because he's retarded....maybe severely so....not like most of the Morons. (had to throw in that last prt)

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (dIske)

148 Now mayonnaise on French fries? That's a whole other thing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM

I saw corn on the cob on a stick slathered in Mayonnaise & chili powder at the state fair. I physically gagged.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (OkYzo)

149 The UK stat vs the states is not total GDP but GDP per capita

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (22ggK)

150 "YT has at least one man-in-the-street video with the interviewer asking London Brits where the UK GDP stands in comparison to US states (the answer, of course, is 51st). The reactions are priceless."

That's not correct. UK's GDP is over $4 trillion. That's Number 5 in the world. The only US state with (maybe) a larger GDP is California. Mississippi's GDP is under $200 billion.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (iFTx/)
===

You're right. I was running from memory.

The correct metric is PER CAPITA GDP. Using that metric, the per capita GDP of MS residents is higher than the UK per capita GDP.

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (rj6Yv)

151 England needs Oliver Cromwell

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (sgkY8)

152 Walz doesn't know shit and has no problem just repeating ignorant lefty talking points. No shame if the facts don't meet their rhetoric.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (GP8V/)

153
The British Royal Family, truly role models for the ages!!!
Posted by: kallisto at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (GY74I)


The 2 biggest scams on Planet Earth:

1. Insurance
2. The Royal Family

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (vf0Uk)

154 I'm glad most reasonable Americans don't give a shit about being called racist anymore.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (fgSb9)

155 > There's something mental about Brit-ish people.

My 11 year old likes to watch a couple of different British Minecraft YouTubers. Sometimes when he's doing that I'll say to the room, "Allo! I'm a Bri-ish per-son!" in the most ridiculous British pseudo accent. He hates it. I think I'm hilarious.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (mkw2N)

156 131 What England needs is THE BEATLES!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

You'll get a re-gendered race swapped Ruttles and love it.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (Y8DZL)

157 It is remarkable, and IMPRESSIVE to witness the vigorous response from King Chucky 3 with regards to the grooming gang crisis in his dominion!


The same people here in the US that tell us men need to be put on a curfew and 1/3 women are raped are also telling us 250K rapes in the UK is no biggie.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 01:53 PM (sKqQm)

158 England needs Oliver Cromwell

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM


Elvis needs boats.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:53 PM (vf0Uk)

159 130 The reflecting pool was beautiful when completed.

The TDS retards dumped shit into it and hacked at it, destroying parts of it, including the water.

It's more of why we just can't have nice things in this country.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (vf0Uk)

I said that the other day...why can't we have nice things anymore...just lovely nice things without the endless victimization play.

Posted by: Joemarine at June 22, 2026 01:53 PM (y171U)

160 "YT has at least one man-in-the-street video with the interviewer asking London Brits where the UK GDP stands in comparison to US states (the answer, of course, is 51st). The reactions are priceless."

That's not correct. UK's GDP is over $4 trillion. That's Number 5 in the world. The only US state with (maybe) a larger GDP is California. Mississippi's GDP is under $200 billion.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

I believe the comparison was GDP per capita.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2026 01:51 PM (qx7Zg)
_______

UK would still be ahead of Miss and a number of other USA states

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:53 PM (iFTx/)

161 Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:41 PM (OxX9V)

From whereabouts?
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:49 PM (22ggK)

127 Posted by: ...


Mostly from Nottigham or Dorsetshire. Not poor or poorly educated folks.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:53 PM (OxX9V)

162 England, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 01:53 PM (aGp5K)

163 143 Canadians have a silver medal in hockey. 🤣
_____

Just wait until little Sanjeep and little Achmed add diversity to the Canadian squad in a few years.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:54 PM (Dv3i1)

164 England needs Oliver Cromwell

At least.

Honestly if even one country were to string up their current elites and send all the immigrants/refugees home I think we'd see a cascade effect like you've never seen - Euro-nik after Euro-nik bureaucrat arguing they were always against immigration...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 01:54 PM (sKqQm)

165 I saw corn on the cob on a stick slathered in Mayonnaise & chili powder at the state fair. I physically gagged.
Posted by: Frank Barone

That wasn't for eating...

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 01:54 PM (Y8DZL)

166 Hard to think of a food that is more compatible with so many different kinds of toppings and condiments than fried potatoes. The only consensus is that you must put something on there. Salt at minimum.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:55 PM (Jr5Lq)

167 And keep in mind the same people telling us we needs unlimited immigrants to "do the jobs Americans/Europeans won't do" are also the people telling us we need UBI because AI/robots are about to take all the jobs

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 01:55 PM (sKqQm)

168 UK would still be ahead of Miss and a number of other USA states
Posted by: Elric The Blade

We're number 44, we're number 44!!!!
- The UK, if it were a state

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:55 PM (Dv3i1)

169
Is there anything left in the UK that's worth a shit?

Their monarchy are a bunch of inbred retards.
Their food sucks with the force of a supermassive black hole.
Their elected politicians have sold the entire nation down the river for decades.
The weather is ass.
Have I mentioned the food?
Posted by: ballistic at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (oqH4h)



On the other hand, we have mastered the art of the Magneto.

Posted by: Lucas Electric, Prince of Darkness at June 22, 2026 01:55 PM (y9nCu)

170 I saw corn on the cob on a stick slathered in Mayonnaise & chili powder at the state fair. I physically gagged.
Posted by: Frank Barone

That wasn't for eating...
Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 01:54 PM (Y8DZL)
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Was it deep fried?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 01:55 PM (gnNyN)

171 England needs Oliver Cromwell

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM


Elvis needs boats.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:53 PM (vf0Uk)

Mars needs women.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 01:56 PM (iJfKG)

172 Doner kebab is the apex of thousands of years of development of kebab technology.
Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 01:46 PM (77rzZ)

They came in handy on the Oregon Trail when stuck in the Sierra Nevada.

Posted by: Donner Party at June 22, 2026 01:56 PM (wVcYX)

173 We're number 44, we're number 44!!!!
- The UK, if it were a state
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:55 PM (Dv3i1)


Open 4 more Buc-Ee's in those 6 bottom states and they're better than the UK.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:56 PM (vf0Uk)

174 "YT has at least one man-in-the-street video with the interviewer asking London Brits where the UK GDP stands in comparison to US states (the answer, of course, is 51st). The reactions are priceless."

That's not correct. UK's GDP is over $4 trillion. That's Number 5 in the world. The only US state with (maybe) a larger GDP is California. Mississippi's GDP is under $200 billion.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (iFTx/)
===

You're right. I was running from memory.

The correct metric is PER CAPITA GDP. Using that metric, the per capita GDP of MS residents is higher than the UK per capita GDP.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 01:52 PM (rj6Yv)
_______

UK per capita GDP: $61,056
MS per capita GDP: $55,877 or $42,000 depending on how you calculate.

There are indeed some Euro countries that have less GDP per capita than MS. But UK isn't one of them.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:56 PM (iFTx/)

175 I saw that the South Korean per capita GDP is now higher then Britain.

The country has done nothing positive in 30 years. But at least they have free healthcare or something!

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 01:56 PM (sKqQm)

176 Damn, now I want doner kebab.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

177 All the good ones are dead or came here. Plus, the class system in UK is pure poison. Those in the lower ranks have been conditioned for dozens of generations that they are inferior and deserve to get lorded over by the elites. It's kind of their defense mechanism, to accept their lot in life and not think about it too much.
---
No one in all of Europe ever batted an eye at the various tsars treating the serfs as disposable trash.

Because they all treat their lower class the same.

Again:
Your average slave in the Untied States ate better than 1/3 of all those who lived in Europe.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 01:56 PM (73/SM)

178 "YT has at least one man-in-the-street video with the interviewer asking London Brits where the UK GDP stands in comparison to US states (the answer, of course, is 51st). The reactions are priceless."

That's not correct. UK's GDP is over $4 trillion. That's Number 5 in the world. The only US state with (maybe) a larger GDP is California. Mississippi's GDP is under $200 billion.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

It's per capita. GDP per capita, and the UK is ranked 51st of the 50 states.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 01:57 PM (rii+a)

179 Mars needs women

ACK ACK!

Posted by: Some Martian incel at June 22, 2026 01:57 PM (sKqQm)

180 25 Decidedly not funny!

But I laughed anyway.

I'm going to hell, aren't I...

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 22, 2026 01:57 PM (wBaIH)

181 On the other hand, we have mastered the art of the Magneto.
Posted by: Lucas Electric, Prince of Darkness


I found it amusingly ironic that in X Men, Magneto was played by a Brit.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:57 PM (OxX9V)

182 It's per capita. GDP per capita, and the UK is ranked 51st of the 50 states.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 01:57 PM (rii+a)

Ah. I just missed the math. They're 44 of 50.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 01:58 PM (rii+a)

183 "YT has at least one man-in-the-street video with the interviewer asking London Brits where the UK GDP stands in comparison to US states (the answer, of course, is 51st). The reactions are priceless."

That's not correct. UK's GDP is over $4 trillion. That's Number 5 in the world. The only US state with (maybe) a larger GDP is California. Mississippi's GDP is under $200 billion.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

It's per capita. GDP per capita, and the UK is ranked 51st of the 50 states.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 01:57 PM (rii+a)
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Except it's not. See my post above.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:58 PM (iFTx/)

184 Canadians have Ketchup flavored potato chips.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 01:50 PM (OkYzo)

Well they are fried potatoes.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 01:58 PM (GP8V/)

185 "It's more of why we just can't have nice things in this country."

Here in Shitsville, every few years we get a spike in graffiti. Gang tags everywhere. I report all that I see to the city, they clean them up, then we go a few years before the animals resume their mission to turn everything ugly.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:58 PM (Jr5Lq)

186 UK would still be ahead of Miss and a number of other USA states
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:53 PM (iFTx/)

What if it were just Britain and not the whole UK?

Posted by: LASue at June 22, 2026 01:58 PM (1MCHl)

187 Andy Burnham is Kier Sturmer in Levi's.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at June 22, 2026 01:58 PM (wGerL)

188 Decidedly not funny!

But I laughed anyway.

I'm going to hell, aren't I...

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 22, 2026 01:57 PM (wBaIH)


I typed it.

I'll see you there, apparently.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:58 PM (vf0Uk)

189 Not poor or poorly educated folks.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:53 PM (OxX9V)

Try talking to some poor and poorly educated ones! It won't be a slam dunk win but you will get better answers by and large. You have to remember even their Tories are essentially US Democrat Socialist Dumbfuck Lite.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:58 PM (22ggK)

190 166 Rice. You can put anything on rice.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 01:59 PM (77rzZ)

191 Did Brexit happen, or is Brussels still yanking the puppet strings?

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2026 01:59 PM (Q+gd/)

192 I found it amusingly ironic that in X Men, Magneto was played by a Brit.

Also he founds the "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants"

Now plenty of people do evil stuff but I can't think of a real world case of someone naming their org like that. And he's a mutant supremacist or something so it should be more like "The Brotherhood of Superior People" or something

Posted by: Some Martian incel at June 22, 2026 01:59 PM (sKqQm)

193 Is there anything left in the UK that's worth a shit?

Their monarchy are a bunch of inbred retards.
Their food sucks with the force of a supermassive black hole.
Their elected politicians have sold the entire nation down the river for decades.
The weather is ass.
Have I mentioned the food?
Posted by: ballistic at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (oqH4h)


It is a little known fact that the search for decent food was the primary motivation of the Royal Navy to venture out and basically conquer and colonize the known world.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2026 01:59 PM (T+CvP)

194 64.

If Frederik Barbarsa could swim it would be a different world today.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 01:59 PM (GDtGs)

195 Did Brexit happen, or is Brussels still yanking the puppet strings?
Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2026 01:59 PM (Q+gd/)


The people voted for it.

The elected officials never implemented it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:59 PM (vf0Uk)

196 Barbarossa, dumbass.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:00 PM (GDtGs)

197 Hey Britain, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Posted by: Archer at June 22, 2026 02:00 PM (wvc0i)

198 Nobody believes the British statistics, I say they're 57th out of 57. so there.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 02:00 PM (n5tGW)

199 NYC is turning summer time heat into a political issue. These people are batshit crazy.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 02:00 PM (fkjGs)

200 176 Damn, now I want doner kebab.
____

From wikipedia on Charlene Downes -

A witness, who worked at a different restaurant, claimed she overheard Albattikhi speaking to her employer. The group had been discussing having sex with girls, when Albattikhi claimed he had previously had sex with Downes. The group then joked that she had "gone into the kebabs".

As for me, I will no longer eat any kebabs.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 02:00 PM (Dv3i1)

201 I found it amusingly ironic that in X Men, Magneto was played by a Brit.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 01:57 PM (OxX9V)
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"Evil Brit" is a fairly popular trope.

Must be because a deep British voice (e.g., Christopher Lee) sounds very cool.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 02:01 PM (gnNyN)

202 Losses as GAINZZ update:
I'm officially down 20lbs.

BMI says I'm now overweight. Hilariously, for a 6'5" guy, "normal weight" is between 155lbs and 210lbs. Right around 205-215 is a good weight for me as far as looks and health. If I cut down to 165 or 155, I'd look like a plague victim.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:01 PM (mkw2N)

203 You can put anything on rice.


Yeah, but in the end it's still...Rice. Not a big fan.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2026 02:01 PM (T+CvP)

204 BMI says I'm now overweight. Hilariously, for a 6'5" guy, "normal weight" is between 155lbs and 210lbs. Right around 205-215 is a good weight for me as far as looks and health. If I cut down to 165 or 155, I'd look like a plague victim.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:01 PM (mkw2N)


The BMI is horseshit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:02 PM (vf0Uk)

205 The British upper class live a financial life equivalent to American middle class, but vote like an American employed by USAID.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 02:02 PM (OxX9V)

206 Have I mentioned the food?
Posted by: ballistic at June 22, 2026 01:47 PM (oqH4h)

So Prime Rib served with Yorkshire pudding is from somewhere else?

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 02:02 PM (Y8DZL)

207 Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2026 02:01 PM (T+CvP)

You know how I know you're not from Louisiana?

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:03 PM (GP8V/)

208 If I cut down to 165 or 155, I'd look like a plague victim.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:01 PM (mkw2N)

I'm 5'8 and 165. I'm about 5lbs of fat too heavy.

You'd look like you were just rescued from the camps.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 02:03 PM (rii+a)

209 "You can put anything on rice."

But can you put rice on fried potatoes?

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:03 PM (Jr5Lq)

210
Way up when there were about 5 comments, I decided I should go off and find out a little about this European parliamentary system.

Prime Minister Nancy Pelosi. omg.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 02:04 PM (XJ22o)

211 I saw corn on the cob on a stick slathered in Mayonnaise & chili powder at the state fair. I physically gagged.
Posted by: Frank Barone
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Elotes is one of the tip-top best ways to eat corn.

But I prefer sour cream to mayo.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 02:04 PM (73/SM)

212 So Prime Rib served with Yorkshire pudding is from somewhere else?

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 02:02 PM (Y8D

Wouldn't like it if it was made in the USA. I'm not a bloody meat guy or a pudding guy.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:04 PM (GP8V/)

213 You know how I know you're not from Louisiana?

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:03 PM (GP8V/)


You're right. But I do love me some Tabasco. And that's from Louisiana.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2026 02:05 PM (T+CvP)

214 I read a reddit thread comparing Germany and MS and it was amusing.

Germany has a slightly hired GDP per capita but not by a lot and the redditors can't comprehend why.

Some argued GDP doesn't matter though if the numbers were different the same people would argue they do.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:05 PM (sKqQm)

215 Democracy. Mmmm, drink it in.

in the end, isn't the real democracy the friends grift we made along the way?

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 02:05 PM (sGtp+)

216 I'm 5'8 and 165. I'm about 5lbs of fat too heavy.

You'd look like you were just rescued from the camps.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 02:03 PM (rii+a)


I'm 5'9"ish and pushing 200. I feel I looked my best at 185 and exercising (in shape).

I will get back there, someday, but am still a bit overwhelmed in life to get myself motivated to do much of anything toward that goal.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:05 PM (vf0Uk)

217 I saw a video of an anti ICE protest chick prancing in the street getting hit by a dodge challenger. Funny stuff.

Posted by: Archer at June 22, 2026 02:05 PM (wvc0i)

218
It is a little known fact that the search for decent food was the primary motivation of the Royal Navy to venture out and basically conquer and colonize the known world.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2026 01:59 PM (T+CvP)



Just to show how stupid the Limeys are, they have had plenty of beef available for centuries, and they apparently just boil it like uncivilized heathens.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 02:06 PM (y9nCu)

219 202.

Nice work.

Remember that the "ideal weight" is calculated by cuck vegans in Priuses who sit to pee.

BMI is the Food Pyramid of Social Distancing.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:06 PM (GDtGs)

220 Wonder if Uwe Boll's newest moobie if going to banned in both Germany and Bongland due to "anti-migrant" sentiment?

https://tinyurl.com/3tekzkx2

To me, it looks like Euro "Death Wish".

Posted by: Thrawn at June 22, 2026 02:06 PM (KKMoa)

221 > You know how I know you're not from Louisiana?

It's the accent, right?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:06 PM (mkw2N)

222 Corn on the Cob at the Dutchess County Fair in the Hudson Valley was the best corn I ever had. It was like each kernel had its own pocket of seasoned butter.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:06 PM (GP8V/)

223 Just to show how stupid the Limeys are, they have had plenty of beef available for centuries, and they apparently just boil it like uncivilized heathens.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 02:06 PM (y9nCu)


"Honey! Fire up the grill and get the pot of water boiling, eh love?!?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:06 PM (vf0Uk)

224 Traditional protocol is that the Prime Minister goes to Buckingham Palace, informs the King in person that he has resigned, and that a new government needs to be formed.

Starmer phoned it in.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (aD4fx)

225 Keir Starmer, best known for his boundless hatred for the British people whom he subjected to ruthless Muslim savagery, resigns not merely in disgrace but in infamy. May he go to his grave a broken, destitute cuckold and may his line be forgotten.

Posted by: mea culpa at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (2TwE4)

226 I'm 5'9 and about 165. My doctor told me I was borderline overweight according to BMI and then that BMI is useless for anyone with any amount of muscle...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (sKqQm)

227 So Prime Rib served with Yorkshire pudding is from somewhere else?

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 02:02 PM (Y8DZL)
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Oh so they managed to get bread and ribeye right? Hot damn!

(I bet it's still under-seasoned as a bastard though)

Posted by: ballistic at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (oqH4h)

228 204 BMI says I'm now overweight. Hilariously, for a 6'5" guy, "normal weight" is between 155lbs and 210lbs. Right around 205-215 is a good weight for me as far as looks and health. If I cut down to 165 or 155, I'd look like a plague victim.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:01 PM (mkw2N)
__________________________

That's got to be a glitch. I'm 6'6" and haven't been anywhere near 155 since about 6th grade....and I'm not overweight.

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (dIske)

229 There should be a Moron Gym franchise.

Or at least a support group.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (GDtGs)

230 Remember that the "ideal weight" is calculated by cuck vegans in Priuses who sit to pee.
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LOL, someone reported at one of the stadiums for the World Cup, only the Americans and the Mexicans were using the urinals.

All the rest of the Euros were using the stalls.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (73/SM)

231 Remember that the "ideal weight" is calculated by cuck vegans in Priuses who sit to pee.


Forgot about that one.


"You sit to pee, don't you......."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (vf0Uk)

232 The word out from the left is gdp per capita doesn’t mean anything. Something to do with evil billionaires having all the money. So Mississippi is a truly poor and the UK is rich. Why? Because reasons.

It’s like how when blacks have 20% a pass rate in exams the problem isn’t the 20%, it’s the exam.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 02:08 PM (JpaWp)

233 England is a fucked up place. I'm eternally grateful that my ancestors left four hundred years ago, because it's apparently been a fucked up place for a long time.
Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 01:24 PM (VJX5o)


Some of mind did likewise.
And England is not the England our fathers knew.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 02:08 PM (2WIwB)

234 226 I'm 5'9 and about 165. My doctor told me I was borderline overweight according to BMI and then that BMI is useless for anyone with any amount of muscle...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (sKqQm)
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If you have lifted any amount of weights in the past year the BMI is entirely useless.

Posted by: ballistic at June 22, 2026 02:08 PM (oqH4h)

235 Remember that the "ideal weight" is calculated by cuck vegans in Priuses who sit to pee.


*He* don't like meat but he sure likes the bone

Posted by: Deadeye Dick at June 22, 2026 02:08 PM (sKqQm)

236 The Mises Institute has a pretty good rundown on the Mississippi v. UK per capita wealth argument.

LINK: https://tinyurl.com/48jzxsnh

From the article:

"So, is Britain poorer than Mississippi? The answer appears to be yes, and it’s yes for many other European countries as well.

Why is this? Well, as we showed above, it’s not because the United States lacks a welfare state. The US has a very large welfare state. On the other hand, the US does often have a lower tax burden than most European countries. Moreover, Americans benefit from the very large free-trade zone that is the United States which very lightly regulates the movement of goods and services from state to state. In contrast, European states still impose many regulations on cross-border trade. For example, the IMF has noted that “Europe’s internal barriers are equivalent to a 45% tariff on manufactured goods and a 110% levy on services.” Overall economic regulation is certainly heavy in Europe as well. "

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 02:08 PM (rj6Yv)

237 Under BMI lots of NFL cornerbacks are "overweight."

Posted by: mr tmz at June 22, 2026 02:08 PM (rJ48h)

238 It ain't just the UK. Matt Walsh reports how the USA's Community Relations Service is telling victims of crime to tone it down.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 22, 2026 02:09 PM (ao/5o)

239 Prime Minister Nancy Pelosi. omg.

Our future. The Democratic Socialists of America have just called for abolishing the Presidency and the Senate, and centralizing all power in the House.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 22, 2026 02:09 PM (aD4fx)

240 Except it's not. See my post above.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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4 trillion/70 million (population of UK) = 57,142

200 billion/3 million (population of Mississippi) = 66,666.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 02:09 PM (XvL8K)

241 I'm six foot and 180 and feel too thin for my liking.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:10 PM (GP8V/)

242 Hey! Looks like I'm not any longer the worst PM in British history.

Posted by: Zombie Neville Chamberlain at June 22, 2026 02:10 PM (wvc0i)

243 239.

That'll be after the fight.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:10 PM (GDtGs)

244 It’s like how when blacks have 20% a pass rate in exams the problem isn’t the 20%, it’s the exam.

The left likes low passing rates so they can always demand more $$$ for education.

Though you can see a direct correlation between dollars spent and dropping test scores/knowledge levels

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:10 PM (sKqQm)

245
I'm 5'9"ish and pushing 200. I feel I looked my best at 185 and exercising (in shape).

I will get back there, someday, but am still a bit overwhelmed in life to get myself motivated to do much of anything toward that goal.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:05 PM (vf0Uk)


5'9", currently about 230. Picture a bearded middle-aged guy with a body like a Peanut M and M.

But it's MAGNIFICENTLY SEXY Peanut M and M.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 02:11 PM (y9nCu)

246 British women allegedly have the biggest average boob size in Europe so they have that going for them.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:11 PM (GP8V/)

247 But it's MAGNIFICENTLY SEXY Peanut M and M.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 02:11 PM (y9nC

What color?

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:12 PM (GP8V/)

248 BMI says I'm now overweight. Hilariously, for a 6'5" guy, "normal weight" is between 155lbs and 210lbs. Right around 205-215 is a good weight for me as far as looks and health. If I cut down to 165 or 155, I'd look like a plague victim.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:01 PM (mkw2N)
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That's got to be a glitch. I'm 6'6" and haven't been anywhere near 155 since about 6th grade....and I'm not overweight.
Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (dIske)


6'3" and 230 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal.
Well, okay.
Maybe a bit of tin foil in there now. I am over 29.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 02:12 PM (2WIwB)

249
Next I'll have to read you all running down Scottish Haggis.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 02:12 PM (Y8DZL)

250 British women allegedly have the biggest average boob size in Europe so they have that going for them.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:11 PM (GP8V/)


Because they're fat. But America has a fat problem.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:12 PM (vf0Uk)

251 I seem to recall the BMI was developed from studying concentration camp survivors following the conclusion of Euro Unpleasantness '39 - '45.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 02:12 PM (wVcYX)

252 Love love love the going away music

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 22, 2026 02:12 PM (ao/5o)

253 It ain't just the UK. Matt Walsh reports how the USA's Community Relations Service is telling victims of crime to tone it down.
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lots of tweets responding to politicians condoning the Scot who went a'stabbing with:

Don't look back in anger
Don't blame the whole for the actions of one
Don't be so hasty, he may have had mental health issues

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (73/SM)

254 Any time their is a high profile death of a preferred minority group in the US the FNM waves the bloody shirt endlessly.

If I was the parent of this murdered girl I would at least demand any interview that the people rise up and remove those responsible.

This stuff does have an effect which is why the media plays the games it does

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (sKqQm)

255 I'm six two and a half and weigh 215. By BMI standards I'm a blob. I'm not

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (Iurxt)

256 In the coming world war, the battle lines are being drawn now. Freedom vs religious subjugation. Pick your sides.

Posted by: Megthered at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (jHnR/)

257 I'm 5' 10" and bounce back and forth between 180 and 186 depending on how much cheese I've eaten that week.

I can deadlift 315 at 54yo.

That BMI voodoo don't concern me.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (GDtGs)

258 Just go to an a typical middle class home in the UK and one in the US. You don’t need to look at statistics you can see the wealth gap instantly. We live better in virtually all aspects of life.

Are there rich people in the UK? Of course. Are there dirt poor people in Mississippi. Absolutely. But the median person in MS is better off than the median person in the UK.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (JpaWp)

259 "Though you can see a direct correlation between dollars spent and dropping test scores/knowledge levels"

My public school district has a 42% chronic absenteeism rate. Nothing is going to get better in this country until we put the fear of God into our 'youth' and they learn some fucking discipline.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (Jr5Lq)

260 British women allegedly have the biggest average boob size in Europe so they have that going for them.
Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:11 PM (GP8V/)


Hungarian women have entered the chat.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 02:14 PM (2WIwB)

261 6' and 215 at 70 years old and I feel fine.

Posted by: Archer at June 22, 2026 02:14 PM (wvc0i)

262 Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (dIske)

You must have had a good serve. ( I'm a former player myself)

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:14 PM (GP8V/)

263 I don't like europe but they won't let me throw rocks at them

Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 22, 2026 02:14 PM (jrgJz)

264 ---
lots of tweets responding to politicians condoning the Scot who went a'stabbing with:

Don't look back in anger
Don't blame the whole for the actions of one
Don't be so hasty, he may have had mental health issues
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (73/SM)


They don't want you to retaliate because they want you dead.

They believe they can control 60IQ retards easier than they can control you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:14 PM (vf0Uk)

265 244 It’s like how when blacks have 20% a pass rate in exams the problem isn’t the 20%, it’s the exam.

The left likes low passing rates so they can always demand more $$$ for education.

Though you can see a direct correlation between dollars spent and dropping test scores/knowledge levels
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:10 PM (sKqQm)
_______________________________

No one showed that philosophy better than Mike Judge.

"IT'S GOT ELECTROLYTES!!!"

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (dIske)

266 > Under BMI lots of NFL cornerbacks are "overweight."

Yeah, if you have a lifting background or if you're tall, BMI is silly. I've been following the Juggernaut powerlifting program for the past three years. Hopefully I've put on a few pounds of muscle.

I could see the difference before the weight loss. I'm seeing more of a difference now. It's fun, like a slow reveal. Lately I've been watching my obliques making an appearance.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (mkw2N)

267 The new PM looks like Ellen Degeneres and is just another socialist labor douche. This is not an improvement.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (uqKJX)

268 Posted by: Megthered at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (jHnR/)

The world war already started. First shot came out of a lab in Wuhan. Globalists vs Restofus-ists

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (22ggK)

269 So is Andy Burnham also a Fabian Society member?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (xcxpd)

270 Average weight of a Caucasian woman in the US is 170.
For the Brits it is 160.

Both are bad but I guess we are still a bit worse.

Note black women in the US are about 190 and Brits 165.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (sKqQm)

271 For the official record, I HATE BMI. It is the worst metric ever. It is awful and terrible. It was never meant to be used the way it is now, and if you have actual muscles it will tell you that you are overweight, even with really low body fat. Crazytown. Throw that metric in the trash.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (CM7zZ)

272 British women allegedly have the biggest average boob size in Europe so they have that going for them.
Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:11 PM (GP8V/)


Hungarian women have entered the chat.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 02:14 PM (2WIwB)

Do they know about the cup sizes?

Posted by: Frank Costanza at June 22, 2026 02:16 PM (wVcYX)

273 "British women allegedly have the biggest average boob size in Europe so they have that going for them."

Hey, my teeth are up here!

Posted by: British Woman at June 22, 2026 02:16 PM (Q+gd/)

274 Rotherham police finally crack down - on white teen girls
https://tinyurl.com/3mw4mdp6

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 22, 2026 02:16 PM (4o0UL)

275 Or did I just answer my own question?
Because, yes, Andy Burnham is also a Fabian Society member.

Moar Socialism!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:16 PM (xcxpd)

276 Yeah big boobs average doesn’t mean much since fat women have big boobs generally. You need a boob size per lb body weight metric.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 02:16 PM (JpaWp)

277 260 British women allegedly have the biggest average boob size in Europe so they have that going for them.
Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:11 PM (GP8V/)


Hungarian women have entered the chat.

this is an imperial vs metric thing isn't it? do the brits still measure boob size in pounds, shillings, and pence?

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 02:16 PM (sGtp+)

278 I'll jump over the low bar and say I could hit the punch bag harder than starmer just by breathing on it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 02:16 PM (n5tGW)

279 The US needs to spend more money building prisons and less on public education.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 22, 2026 02:16 PM (rJ48h)

280 Former football players do tend to get overweight. Exercise and activity changes but eating habits mostly don't.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (GP8V/)

281
But it's MAGNIFICENTLY SEXY Peanut M and M.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 02:11 PM (y9nC

What color?
Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:12 PM (GP8V/)



Put it to you this way. Van Halen banned me from backstage in the 80s. Couldn't stand the competition.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (y9nCu)

282 For the official record, I HATE BMI. It is the worst metric ever. It is awful and terrible. It was never meant to be used the way it is now, and if you have actual muscles it will tell you that you are overweight, even with really low body fat. Crazytown. Throw that metric in the trash.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (CM7zZ)


Anorexia kills. They want you afraid of weight so you kill yourself to be small. They've been gunning for population control for generations.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (vf0Uk)

283 Hungarian women are about 150 lbs, closer to a reasonable weight still high but again better...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (sKqQm)

284 They don't want you to retaliate because they want you dead.

They believe they can control 60IQ retards easier than they can control you.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:14 PM (vf0Uk)
----
In grim irony, they're going to find out that the 60IQ retards have a boot on their necks.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (gnNyN)

285 "I HATE BMI." Don't get me started on ASCAP!

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (Jr5Lq)

286 M&Ms will soon no longer be offered in blue or brown.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (0sNs1)

287 Hi guys. Any feminine closeted, bi-curious males here?

Posted by: Keirs Starmer at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (0ZmKh)

288 273.

Why do Brits have bad teeth?

Nobody cares about the fence in front of the outhouse.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (GDtGs)

289 AVENGE ME! AVENGE ME!

Dad in Red Dawn. (The good 1980's version)

Posted by: Archer at June 22, 2026 02:17 PM (wvc0i)

290 253 It ain't just the UK. Matt Walsh reports how the USA's Community Relations Service is telling victims of crime to tone it down.
---
lots of tweets responding to politicians condoning the Scot who went a'stabbing with:

Don't look back in anger
Don't blame the whole for the actions of one
Don't be so hasty, he may have had mental health issues
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (73/SM)

I think those are Oasis song lyrics

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (xcxpd)

291 > I can deadlift 315 at 54yo.

Nice!

I'm 49 and my most recent PRs are:
275lbs bench.
390 squat.
475 deadlift.

I performed all to competition standard. No bouncing or hitching or half squat or anything like that.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (mkw2N)

292 this is an imperial vs metric thing isn't it? do the brits still measure boob size in pounds, shillings, and pence?
Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 02:16 PM (sGtp+)

Heh. The study was based on bra size.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (GP8V/)

293 Hi guys. Any feminine closeted, bi-curious males here?

Better make sure none of them have a lighter first mate.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (sKqQm)

294 Average weight of a Caucasian woman in the US is 170.
For the Brits it is 160.

Both are bad but I guess we are still a bit worse.


Height makes a difference. I dare say our white wymynses are taller since we have a lot of Germanics mixed in the gene pool which has to up our average over the Brits.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (JpaWp)

295 I think those are Oasis song lyrics

Blur > Oasis

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (sKqQm)

296 Throw that metric in the trash.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (CM7zZ)

Metric? It's metric! (begins to froth at mouth)

We should measure body weight in stones, and volume in pecks! It's the American way!

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (InJki)

297 I think those are Oasis song lyrics

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (xcxpd)


Overrated sacks of shit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (vf0Uk)

298 Boobs aren't everything, you know.

Posted by: Brie Larson at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (0sNs1)

299 OT: just heard 'She's Gone' by Hall And Oates for the first time today.

Fuck that song is good.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

300 Sponge Johnson is right! Ours do to and that's why POC's and the gender dysphoria inmates remain free to do what they do.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (Q/FnY)

301 SPORTSBRA!!!!!!!


Go boobs!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (vf0Uk)

302 For some reason squid are a form of currency in Britain. These people are odd.

Posted by: Someone who misheard his facts of the day at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (sKqQm)

303 270 Average weight of a Caucasian woman in the US is 170.
For the Brits it is 160.

Both are bad but I guess we are still a bit worse.

Note black women in the US are about 190 and Brits 165.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22

Depends on how tall you are, right? Someone who is 4’11 and 190 is very different than someone who is 5’11. We laugh at big boned, but people do have different bone structures and that does play a role, too.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (CM7zZ)

304 234 If you have lifted any amount of weights in the past year the BMI is entirely useless.

big gulps count as weights, right?

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (sGtp+)

305 297 I think those are Oasis song lyrics

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (xcxpd)


Overrated sacks of shit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (vf0Uk)

That's also the Oasis' greatest hits album title.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (xcxpd)

306 Is there anything left in the UK that's worth a shit

Yes; I'm rather fond of my BIL who lives there with my sister.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (ZeH0U)

307 > British women allegedly have the biggest average boob size in Europe so they have that going for them.

A lot of the women have the barmaid build. It's a good look if they're young and relatively fit.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (mkw2N)

308 Sponge Johnson is right!

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (Q/FnY)


Well, THAT doesn't happen very often.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (vf0Uk)

309 Clive Davis dead at 94.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (Iurxt)

310 301 SPORTSBRA!!!!!!!


Go boobs!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (vf0Uk)

( . ) ( . )

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (xcxpd)

311 OT: just heard 'She's Gone' by Hall And Oates for the first time today.

Fuck that song is good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

First time ever?

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (GP8V/)

312
That's also the Oasis' greatest hits album title.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (xcxpd)


They NAILED it then.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (vf0Uk)

313
( . ) ( . )

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (xcxpd)


*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:21 PM (vf0Uk)

314 262 Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:07 PM (dIske)

You must have had a good serve. ( I'm a former player myself)
Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:14 PM (GP8V/)
________________________

My brother and I are both about the same height played a lot of doubles (which of course your serve is key) We played Peter Fleming and John McEnroe in the semis of tourney in Chicago and it was a barn burner, 3 close sets (we lost). But, my brother and I couldn't help laugh, because Fleming kept calling McEnroe "shorty". He's about 5'10". Fleming is about 6'5". My bro and I are both 6'6".

Posted by: Orson at June 22, 2026 02:21 PM (dIske)

315
Depends on how tall you are, right? Someone who is 4’11 and 190 is very different than someone who is 5’11. We laugh at big boned, but people do have different bone structures and that does play a role, too.

That is true but these are average numbers.

So a woman that's jacked and 6 ft tall is probably fine at 170.

But there are a lot of spherical people in these averages - its not just Guatemalans.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:21 PM (sKqQm)

316 295 I think those are Oasis song lyrics

Blur > Oasis
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:18 PM (sKqQm)

Pulp > Blur > Oasis

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:21 PM (xcxpd)

317 Except it's not. See my post above.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
___________

4 trillion/70 million (population of UK) = 57,142

200 billion/3 million (population of Mississippi) = 66,666.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 02:09 PM (XvL8K)
_____

Except those numbers are not right. UK total GDP is over $4.2 trillion and MS is no more than $165 billion. It is just not true that UK's per capital GDP is less than MS, no matter how much we wish it were true.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 02:21 PM (iFTx/)

318 296 Throw that metric in the trash.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:15 PM (CM7zZ)

Metric? It's metric! (begins to froth at mouth)

We should measure body weight in stones, and volume in pecks! It's the American way!
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Just wait till you discover why they use grains as a unit of weight.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 22, 2026 02:22 PM (Q/FnY)

319 311 OT: just heard 'She's Gone' by Hall And Oates for the first time today.

Fuck that song is good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

First time ever?
Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:20 PM (GP8V/)

Yeah, never heard any of Hall and Oates 70's output before.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

320 Sophie Cunningham is probably at least 160.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:22 PM (GP8V/)

321 BMI >> BLM

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 02:22 PM (iFTx/)

322
4 trillion/70 million (population of UK) = 57,142

200 billion/3 million (population of Mississippi) = 66,666.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 02:09 PM (XvL8K)
_____

Except those numbers are not right. UK total GDP is over $4.2 trillion and MS is no more than $165 billion. It is just not true that UK's per capital GDP is less than MS, no matter how much we wish it were true.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 02:21 PM (iFTx/)


Especially when people are seemingly pulling numbers out of their ass.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:23 PM (vf0Uk)

323 Speaking of jacked I did run across the woman with the buffest arms I've ever seen in person this past weekend. She was youngish so probably an athlete of some sort.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:23 PM (sKqQm)

324 Blur for Song #2 alone tops Pulp and Oasis

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (Iurxt)

325
But there are a lot of spherical people in these averages - its not just Guatemalans.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:21 PM (sKqQm

When I started my weight loss / health journey, I told myself I wanted to be in shape - a shape other than round.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (CM7zZ)

326 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (vf0Uk)

327 291.

That's legit weight.

I always make sure my wife films my PRs now. They aint much, but dammit they are real! I earn every rep.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (dMJIH)

328 Nood

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (xcxpd)

329 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

I guess you would like a number of their songs then if you like She's Gone.

Also pull up some YouTube of Daryl's House and enjoy how good a musician he is.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (GP8V/)

330 My H and O fave is "you make my dreams". Just dives right in with a great beat.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (n5tGW)

331 Speaking of jacked I did run across the woman with the buffest arms I've ever seen in person this past weekend. She was youngish so probably an athlete of some sort.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:23 PM

Thank you for noticing!

Posted by: Michelle O. at June 22, 2026 02:25 PM (0sNs1)

332 324 Blur for Song #2 alone tops Pulp and Oasis
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (Iurxt)

I like 'Common People' more

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 02:25 PM (xcxpd)

333 When I started my weight loss / health journey, I told myself I wanted to be in shape - a shape other than round.

Looking better is a good goal, but you'll also feel better generally. And of course actually be healthier!

The best thing they could have done when covid rolled around was tell me to try and get 30m of exercise every other day....

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 02:25 PM (sKqQm)

334 The desperate plight of women who just can't seem to find full coverage tops and adequate, supportive foundation wear for their heaving bosoms is a recurring thing in my YT feed. Tragic. even.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 02:26 PM (wVcYX)

335 It is just not true that UK's per capital GDP is less than MS, no matter how much we wish it were true.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 02:21 PM (iFTx/)


In 2026, Mississippi’s GDP per capita exceeds the UK’s in both nominal and PPP terms, reflecting structural economic reforms in Mississippi and persistent headwinds for the UK. This “Mississippi Question” has become a notable benchmark in cross-country economic comparisons.

statisticsoftheworld.com/compare/
united-states-vs-united-kingdom

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 02:26 PM (rii+a)

336 According to the World Bank, UK’s GDP per capita in 2024 was $53,246.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (JpaWp)

337 IMF estimate for 2025 for UK is $52,637/person

Mississippi is about $52,000 according to the BEA.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:28 PM (PLxDd)

338 UK’s GDP per capita in 2024 was $53,246.

What's that in boobs?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (Kt19C)

339
SPORTSBRA!!!!!!!


Go boobs!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (vf0Uk)




Heh. I once pissed off a hot liberal chick in a bar by joking around with the female bartender, a good friend by the way, when I popped out with "Thank God for the Wonderbra" with perfect comic timing.

Side note: hot liberal chicks are often willing to do damn near anything when her clothes are laying on the floor, but she's rarely any good at it. Starfish sex.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (y9nCu)

340 Also pull up some YouTube of Daryl's House and enjoy how good a musician he is.
Posted by: polynikes ten bears

I love those sessions, damn good music.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 22, 2026 02:29 PM (Q/FnY)

341 When I started my weight loss / health journey, I told myself I wanted to be in shape - a shape other than round.

Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2026 02:24 PM (CM7zZ)

The real Piper, before she died, might have been able to help you with that!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 02:30 PM (PLxDd)

342 adequate, supportive foundation wear for their heaving bosoms

I could cup my hands

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 02:30 PM (Kt19C)

343 Still, I'd like to know if it was a phillips, flathead, or one of those wicked torx.
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM

What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Robertson

*Sobs*

Posted by: Vodka and Orange Juice at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (MDua2)

344 Height makes a difference. I dare say our white wymynses are taller since we have a lot of Germanics mixed in the gene pool which has to up our average over the Brits.
___

Brits have hobbits in their gene pool.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 02:31 PM (Dv3i1)

345 Starfish sex.

Bronze Starfish?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 02:32 PM (Kt19C)

346 Just go to an a typical middle class home in the UK and one in the US. You don’t need to look at statistics you can see the wealth gap instantly. We live better in virtually all aspects of life.

Are there rich people in the UK? Of course. Are there dirt poor people in Mississippi. Absolutely. But the median person in MS is better off than the median person in the UK.
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 02:13 PM (JpaWp)

Watching brits in the US for World Cup, they were startled at the amazing houses and general lifestyle, but also at the roads, the parks, the lack of fear, walking freely in neighborhoods, the grocery stores, Costco, and obviously the food.

Posted by: LASue at June 22, 2026 02:33 PM (1MCHl)

347 1 England is a fucked up place. I'm eternally grateful that my ancestors left four hundred years ago, because it's apparently been a fucked up place for a long time.
Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2026 01:24 PM (VJX5o)

Mine might only be 300, but otherwise, same.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 22, 2026 02:36 PM (N1DT3)

348 And then he'll serve until the next required election in 2029.

Maybe. Starmer was trying to serve until 2029, too, but he became so unpopular the party decided he would hurt their election chances. Burnham will probably go the same route, at some point. The UK public is pretty angry.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 22, 2026 03:28 PM (B9Dv5)

Fathomless Corruption: Feds Probe Gavin and Jennifer Newsom's Wholesale Looting of Taxpayer Money Through Their "Non-Profit" Grifter Organizations

NewsForce
@Newsforce

🚨🇺🇸Federal investigations are targeting the Newsom family's nonprofits and personal finances.

Officials are examining $3.7 million paid to the governor's wife Jennifer Siebel Newsom from her charities over the past decade.

Gavin Newsom himself is also being probed for soliciting millions in behested payments for her organizations from major donors with state business.

Questions have also surfaced about how the couple bought a $3.7 million Sacramento home through an LLC that allegedly didn't appear on his tax returns.

No charges have been filed yet.

The Sac Bee:

Federal investigators are digging into the finances of California Gov. Gavin Newsom and his wife, First Partner Jennifer Siebel Newsom. The governor calls it a political attack tied to his expected 2028 presidential run. The Trump administration's Justice Department is probing the Newsoms' ties to nonprofits, taxes and business dealings going back years.

Siebel Newsom has occupied a higher profile position compared to the spouses of other state leaders. The filmmaker and gender equity advocate has helped shape her husband's policies on issues like reproductive health, the male loneliness and mental health crisis, school nutrition, and regulating children's access to social media.

Here are key takeaways:

The U.S. Department of Justice is investigating Siebel Newsom's taxes and nonprofits connected to her and the governor, with several probes ongoing for about a year that originated from whistleblower complaints to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Sacramento.

IRS and FBI agents have approached staff, friends and associates of the Newsoms in recent weeks and obtained their bank records. The Governor's Office said the probe intensified after Todd Blanche became acting head of the DOJ.

One of the investigations is connected to Dana Williamson, Newsom's former chief of staff, who pleaded guilty to fraud and lying to the FBI last month and faces up to 38 years in prison.

Siebel Newsom earned about $2.3 million from the Representation Project nonprofit between 2011 and 2018. A 2021 Sacramento Bee investigation found more than $800,000 in donations to the nonprofit from companies that lobby the governor, including PG&E, AT&T and Kaiser Permanente.

Just days before the DOJ probe became public, the state's Fair Political Practices Commission fined Newsom $31,500 for failing to report $5.6 million in charitable donations on time, with most going to the California Fire Foundation during the 2025 Los Angeles wildfires.

Newsom was late filing reports on so-called behested payments 34 times in 2025, and the governor has previously been fined for failing to disclose $14 million in donations made between 2019 and 2024.

There's a reason Newsom doesn't want to admit these "behested payments."

The "behested payments" -- when a politician requests/demands payments to a charity he favors -- aren't illegal but are a "problem," admits the left-wing LA Times.

After Gov. Gavin Newsom announced this week that the U.S. Department of Justice may be investigating his wife, Jennifer Siebel Newsom, media and pundits pounced on millions in charity payments he has solicited for nonprofits, including ones she is involved in.

Those donations, known as "behested payments," aren't illegal in California, but, long before Newsom started asking for them, many have found them unsavory -- with good cause. A behest, after all, is by definition a command or at least a strong suggestion.

Anytime a politician is commanding money, regardless of the purpose, there is at least the appearance that the giver -- Meta, Google, Blue Shield for example -- may expect something in return.

It may seem absurd that the Trump administration could be investigating Newsom for questionable ethics, when Trump has hawked everything from crypto-coins to sneakers from the Oval Office. But the problem Newsom now faces is that behested payments are actually skeevy, and legal or not, they make an excellent target for pummeling the presidential contender. Especially because some of the charities are tied to his wife.

"The Newsom case has blown it wide open, but this has been an issue for years," Sean McMorris told me. He's the transparency, ethics and accountability program manager at Common Cause, a nonpartisan organization that has been raising alarms over behested payments for more than a decade.

McMorris said that while these payments don't violate any laws, they are "ripe for abuse" because companies and people likely aren't ponying up cash just to be good citizens. If you or I called up PG&E and asked them to give a few million to our favorite cause, I doubt we'd have much luck, even if it involved kittens, puppies or small children in need.

The entire system, McMorris points out, "doesn't really work unless you're shaking down people who you know need things from you as a politician."

In other words, it's a shakedown. He asks corporations for money for his favored "charities," with the understanding they will either get a favor in return (or that all favors will be refused unless they pay up).

A lot of these donations go to his fucking wife's "charity."

Which then pays her a salary putting her in the top 5% of all CEOs of "charities" in the country.

Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes


🚨 Gavin Newsom's wife was laundering herself so much money from her NGO she was actually in the top 5% for pay from all charities in the entire nation

But that's not all, Gavin Newsom "bought his $3.7 million Sacramento estate, it was done through an LLC, but that LLC doesn't seem to have appeared on his tax returns -- There's a lot of questions"

"He's released at least partly to journalists in closed-door viewing sessions, his tax returns. And if you look at that, his income, it's about $1.2 to $1.4 million a year. And it just doesn't add up for all of his expenses. He's got massive mortgages, $625,000 in mortgage payments and he's got at least $1 million in living expenses, and the two just don't add up"

"When I had a look at Jennifer Newsom's charity, I found that she was paying herself since 2012, $3.7 million. And this is a lot of money when you look at the amount that the charity brings in. It's sort of $1-$1.7 million a year. And she's paying up to a third of that to herself and her own company--$300,000 a year.

Now, I did a bit of data analysis looking at what charities that size usually pay their executives, and she was in the top 5% of all charities in the nation for pay"

In the video I included more instances where Gavin Newsom laundered money to his wife

- $1 million to block a casino project
- $5 million to an office for his wife that he created
- He sent $300,000 from his donor PG&E to his wife's NGO

And more, it never ends. They need to go to jail

Jennifer Van Der Laar has been covering the Newsom's unquenchable thirst for graft and plunder for years, and has written a "Start Here" introduction to bring everyone up to speed on their decades of daylight robbery of the taxpayers.

Below, a chart showing the Newsom's looting operation. Gavin Newsom takes taxpayer money and pours it into an NGO. That NGO then sends that money to a subgrantee, another NGO which just happens to have his wife as its CEO, which pays her an exorbitant salary. Her own NGO then also promotes Gavin Newsom (using taxpayer funds).


jennifersiebelnewsomlootingoperation.jpg


It's insane that this is tolerated.

But this is all the Democrat Party is. The Somali pirates are not an aberration. They are just the plebeian face of mass looting. Democrat elites have been doing this for decades.

Related: Gavin Newsom was just humiliated by a bipartisan rejection to spend $20 million to honor California's "living governors," that is, the Democrat ones, including himself, of course.

California Democrats have quietly scrapped Gov. Gavin Newsom's controversial $20 million plan to honor the state's living former governors from the budget -- abandoning a proposal that sparked rare bipartisan backlash and ridicule of the taxpayer-funded vanity project.

The so-called "Governors' Legacies" fund was first revealed by The Post as being part of Newsom's May budget revision would have authorized taxpayer funds to be spent on projects recognizing former governors' public service and policy achievements.


But the funding request vanished from a tentative budget agreement shaped and approved this week by Democratic legislators.

The Post calls this a "vanity" project. It is not. It was an attempt to steal $20 million from California's taxpayers to pay for disguised political advertising about Newsom's "accomplishments" as governor just as he's running for president.

How is this allowed? He needs to be in prison. And his grifter whorebag wife, too.

Lock them up.

Lock them up.

Lock them up.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:16 PM




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Posted by: Clay at June 22, 2026 12:16 PM (5Rf2z)

2 Noist

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 22, 2026 12:17 PM (vjmRr)

3 The Clintons took donations.

The Newsoms took federal grant money.

The Newsoms' scheme will make the Clintons' scheme look like amateur hour, though the Clintons outdo them in terms of scale.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:18 PM (Zn6QU)

4 Crooked greasy haired motherfucker and his absolute bitch wife.

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 12:18 PM (YwEeS)

5 Starmer says he's out. Probably to spare the rent boys.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2026 12:19 PM (1Ff7Z)

6 You don't have a federal deficit of $38B by "reckless spending." You have it because the taxpayers have been robbed blind for decades... to the tune of $38B.

The largest theft of wealth in history. Ever.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 12:20 PM (jehhT)

7 To be fair the Clinton's shook down foreign governments too...

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 12:20 PM (YwEeS)

8 The only thing shocking is they didn't name one of the charities "The Human Fund"

They actually created the charities, even if they were fake in all other respects.

But look at the corruption--so obvious and open, not even hiding it, because they knew, even if they got caught, nothing would happen to them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM)

9 But, will anything happen to them, or will they just not advance up the political ladder?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2026 12:21 PM (1Ff7Z)

10 I suspect the Somali looters are at the bottom of the food chain.

They may only be getting 5%-10% of all money that's being looted.

Everyone higher on the chain--the ones who trained the Somalis--is making fat bank off these schemes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 12:21 PM (gnNyN)

11
Hey, parties at the French Laundry don't come cheap!

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 12:21 PM (Y8DZL)

12 8 The only thing shocking is they didn't name one of the charities "The Human Fund"

They actually created the charities, even if they were fake in all other respects.

But look at the corruption--so obvious and open, not even hiding it, because they knew, even if they got caught, nothing would happen to them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM)

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And yet, it was so obvious and stupid that the Biden DOJ opened the investigation.

Lord, I do hope that the Trump DOJ is able to make something of this really stick.

Then we can get some crazy leftist conspiracy theories about how Trump is in league with this or that Democrat primary candidate for president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:22 PM (Zn6QU)

13 You don't have a federal deficit of $38B by "reckless spending." You have it because the taxpayers have been robbed blind for decades... to the tune of $38B.

The largest theft of wealth in history. Ever.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 12:20 PM (jehhT)
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I know math is frowned on around here, but aren't you off by a factor of 1000 or so?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 12:22 PM (gnNyN)

14 Took 'em only a short time to figure out how to get rich on what was supposed to be donations to local boys & girls clubs, block clubs, etc from corporations to becoming the middle man to these "requests" and getting paid most of the "requested" dollars.

If the Feds have the will, Newsom is %$#@ed.

Posted by: Ann at June 22, 2026 12:23 PM (SHHm+)

15 Are their any living Democrat politicians who are not crooks?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 12:23 PM (7RYym)

16 How much did they laugh when the came up with the name "The Representation Project" for their grift mill?

Posted by: far cry at June 22, 2026 12:23 PM (pBJ6M)

17 I was convinced that Newsom would be the '28 nom. This is a potential campaign ender, but one can never overestimate the left's willingness to overlook blatant corruption in their endless quest for power. If not Newsom, who?

No, it will NOT be Kamala.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:24 PM (Riz8t)

18
Gavin's "friends" have become very quiet.

Even Dems hate these sombitches.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 12:24 PM (Y8DZL)

19 17 I was convinced that Newsom would be the '28 nom. This is a potential campaign ender, but one can never overestimate the left's willingness to overlook blatant corruption in their endless quest for power. If not Newsom, who?

No, it will NOT be Kamala.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:24 PM (Riz8t)

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*cackles*
-90% of the polling and 65% of the black vote

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:24 PM (Zn6QU)

20 Jennifer Van Der Laar has been covering the Newsom's unquenchable thirst for graft and plunder for years, and has written a "Start Here" introduction to bring everyone up to speed on their decades of daylight robbery of the taxpayers.

This is a good start but the public needs to be made to understand that there might... might... be ten politicians nationwide for whom this isn't true. Some are just more 'successful' than others.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 12:24 PM (ExV1e)

21 ultimately, isn't this called - conflict of interest??

seems as if leftist liberal democrats don't care about conflict of interest very much when they are making millions out of it

Posted by: Cathymv at June 22, 2026 12:24 PM (LPyx5)

22 The Newscums were jealous at the grift and graft the Clinton's and Obama's made.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 22, 2026 12:25 PM (qoLdL)

23 And yet, it was so obvious and stupid that the Biden DOJ opened the investigation.


Could it be that the Biden puppet masters were trying to take out Newsom so he couldn't pose a threat to Kamala?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

24 look at the corruption--so obvious and open, not even hiding it, because they knew, even if they got caught, nothing would happen to them.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM)

Because California's elections are compromised.
And John Thune with his 53-47 says he just doesn't have the votes for the SAVE Act dosh garden it.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 12:25 PM (gKWVE)

25 So we can expect a slew of explicative laded all-caps tweets aimed at Trump from Newsome.

That's how you know he's authentic and just like you and focused on stopping Trump.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:25 PM (73/SM)

26 20 This is a good start but the public needs to be made to understand that there might... might... be ten politicians nationwide for whom this isn't true. Some are just more 'successful' than others.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 12:24 PM (ExV1e)

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People forget frequently, but the whole stock trading insider in Congress thing only applies to maybe 10% of those in Congress.

The rest outright suck at it or aren't doing it.

Probably because they're backbenchers without committee chairmanships to do the influence peddling.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:25 PM (Zn6QU)

27 I’m going to keep on napping until arrests are made.

Posted by: Rip vanWinkle at June 22, 2026 12:26 PM (37cEZ)

28 Liberalism is a philosophy to console the West while it commits suicide.
-James Burnham

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 12:26 PM (I5lp2)

29 The day some big name Dem goes to prison for corruption is the day a lot of our problems get solved.

And it has to be a Dem because the Dems themselves will occasionally throw a GOPer to the wolves.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 12:26 PM (sKqQm)

30 You’re supposed grab the cash with one hand and leave the other free for misdirection. Some people just can’t help themselves and start shoveling with both hands.

Posted by: Clay at June 22, 2026 12:26 PM (5Rf2z)

31 Yes, but we still need to increase the federal budget every year.

Even though we found what amounts to over a trillion in fraud being laundered through NGO’s and entitlement programs.

I love how the GOP is standing up there crowing about finding all this fraud, and then with the other hand increasing the budget for all of these programs and agencies.

Oh, and SS is still in trouble despite them kicking out the illegal aliens and failing to kick all non citizens off programs like SSDI.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 22, 2026 12:26 PM (/oKzA)

32 I think it’s also important to note these investigations started during the biden administration.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 22, 2026 12:26 PM (A5RD0)

33 The single largest item that taxpayer dollars go to in the budget is fraud.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 12:27 PM (iUXlD)

34 23 And yet, it was so obvious and stupid that the Biden DOJ opened the investigation.


Could it be that the Biden puppet masters were trying to take out Newsom so he couldn't pose a threat to Kamala?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

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Kremlinology, man.

I'm going to go with: field officers are less political motivated that DC men and found the corruption and started the investigation. Biden's DC men didn't kill it because it could be useful.

It's also important to remember that Kamala and Newsom loathe each other.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:27 PM (Zn6QU)

35 The Clinton Foundation (mic drop)

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 12:27 PM (rj6Yv)

36 During my decade with the Feds, we were cautioned not to accept even a free lunch from any of the entities we were examining--even "the appearance of a conflict of interest" was not to be tolerated.

Meanwhile, our elected "leaders" grift at the wholesale level with little consequence.

Posted by: Crusader, Former Federal Bank Examiner at June 22, 2026 12:27 PM (TN0g+)

37 Someone wants him out of 2028. Or... clearing the deck for "done and dusted, covered and litigated, no intent".

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:27 PM (22ggK)

38 25 So we can expect a slew of explicative laded all-caps tweets aimed at Trump from Newsome.

That's how you know he's authentic and just like you and focused on stopping Trump.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:25 PM (73/SM)

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The problem is that no one will be able to tell the difference from his before behavior.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:27 PM (Zn6QU)

39 It's the Clintons all over again. There is nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 12:27 PM (Gqar8)

40 From now on I'm calling Newsom "Th West Coast Plattner."

Posted by: zombie at June 22, 2026 12:27 PM (Av6i5)

41 Could it be that the Biden puppet masters were trying to take out Newsom so he couldn't pose a threat to Kamala?

Posted by: Archimedes


No, they opened the investigation to stall it. No publicity, no charges.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 12:28 PM (aKjiH)

42 Hang them all.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:29 PM (dK+Kv)

43 Any normal American would be doing hard time and have ZERO ASSETS LEFT but democrat pol so little to nothing will happen.

One of these thousands of times I'm hoping I will say, "Hey I was wrong about nothing happening."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (xvV+O)

44 42 Hang them all.

This is almost always good advice.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (Riz8t)

45 43 Any normal American would be doing hard time and have ZERO ASSETS LEFT but democrat pol so little to nothing will happen.

One of these thousands of times I'm hoping I will say, "Hey I was wrong about nothing happening."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (xvV+O)

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Remember, we thought this about John Bolton.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (Zn6QU)

46 I've noticed Gavin Grifter's hair is turning grey under the grease. It may become white soon.

Jennifer is all in for the money and fame. Ask Weinstein.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (hzuYO)

47 What about Jennifer Newscum's wholesale looting of Harvey Weinstein's sperm? There's surely still some crawling around in her mouth.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (iFTx/)

48 This is almost always good advice.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (Riz8t)

I am full of it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (dK+Kv)

49 Headline (FOX News 6/12/2026)

"California accused of blocking federal voter roll audit as DOJ escalates probe of election fraud claims"

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (rj6Yv)

50 Occasionally I see a Democrat politician and I say what always say about them... "knout him, and toss him to the rape dogs. If he still has a spark of life left in him once the Cossacks and Malinoises are spent, then send him to the Strangler."

But with some of these guys, I look at the wives they're stuck with because of politics, kompromat, and testimony protections, and say "nevermind. This is worse. Get him out of power and let him twist in this cunt's gale force wind for the rest of his miserable existence."

Jennifer Siebel Newsom is one of these supernaturally horrible women.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (BI5O2)

51 Afternoon Ace
Someone pointed out the other day that despite Newsom crying that he is being targeted by Trump , no Dems are rushing to his defense. Might be to stop Newsom from running for president, but more likely that no one likes him.
Plus a lot are probably saying "focus on him , don't look at me"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (Iurxt)

52 Biden DOJ was probably "investigating" to bury it.

Posted by: steevy at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (YwEeS)

53 What about Jennifer Newscum's wholesale looting of Harvey Weinstein's sperm? There's surely still some crawling around in her mouth.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (iFTx/)

But Trump said "grab 'em by the pussy!" Reee!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:32 PM (dK+Kv)

54 The single largest item that taxpayer dollars go to in the budget is fraud.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 22, 2026 12:27 PM (iUXlD)
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The #1 job of Congresscritters is to loot the treasury.

It's in the Constitution.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 12:32 PM (gnNyN)

55 All of the taxpayer money that the Newscums stole would have bought ZERO INCHES of Kalifornia's high speed rail.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 12:32 PM (xvV+O)

56 If not Newsom, who?

*hic!*

Posted by: Hillary at June 22, 2026 12:32 PM (O7YUW)

57 I'm sure someone pointed out that this investigation was started before Trump was elected in 2024.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:32 PM (GP8V/)

58 I suspect the Somali looters are at the bottom of the food chain.

They may only be getting 5%-10% of all money that's being looted.

Everyone higher on the chain--the ones who trained the Somalis--is making fat bank off these schemes.
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That's what I think.
I recall one of the Somalis being confronted by the amounts and he was like, "no, no, no."
He actually may have been telling the truth--maybe he only billed and received $100k.

But up the chain, that was 3, 4, or 500k, listed as reimbursed to him.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:33 PM (73/SM)

59 I was convinced that Newsom would be the '28 nom. This is a potential campaign ender, but one can never overestimate the left's willingness to overlook blatant corruption in their endless quest for power. If not Newsom, who?
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Who, outside of Georgia, had heard of James Earl Carter before 1975?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 12:33 PM (amcLV)

60 I saw Wholesale Sperm Looter run against Trump in 2024.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:33 PM (22ggK)

61
At least Bill Clinton had some skill? Gavin is a raving incompetent whose spinning-plates act has broken china all over the stage. The man is running around desperate now, the latest being the 7.25% tax on software.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 12:33 PM (XJ22o)

62 I think it's a bit odd that the focus on Newsom's wife came as he's trying to position himself for a run at the White House. It's something the GOP would never do, but the rank and file Democrats would.

Interesting, that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (jehhT)

63 Looters and Wreckers and Dems, oh my!!

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (Gqar8)

64 Im surprised the Dems let the Somalis scam any money since it’s taking money away from Democrats. In Minnesota it at least makes some sense because the Somalis donate a lot of money to Gwen Walz’s firm. But still, to the Democrats, they should just get that money in the first place.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (2ocoG)

65 Seriously - aside from Newsom and Kamala, who are the big names nationally among the Dems? Ones with legitimate chances to be the 28 nominee.

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (jDdwC)

66 Remember, we thought this about John Bolton.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (Zn6Q

John Bolton is not a Democrat.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (GP8V/)

67 I read that his home purchase via LLC was done a week before the LLC was even created. How does that work, I'm serious. I don't understand this. And what is the advantage of buying via an LLC? And how come it didn't show up on the tax return?

Posted by: beckster at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (kX27y)

68 66 Remember, we thought this about John Bolton.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (Zn6Q

John Bolton is not a Democrat.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (GP8V/)

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He's uniparty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (Zn6QU)

69 How many "partners" does he have?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (Cqx++)

70 Also, is this the first time the media has described themselves as pouncing rather than Republicans?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (2ocoG)

71 End all taxpayer monies to NGOs. Every single cent. Cut all IRS tax credits and write offs.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 12:35 PM (xvV+O)

72 At least Bill Clinton had some skill? Gavin is a raving incompetent whose spinning-plates act has broken china all over the stage.

This excellent analogy made me laugh.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:35 PM (Riz8t)

73
Biden DOJ was probably "investigating" to bury it.
Posted by: steevy

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That may have been the purpose of the investigation, but it didn't originate in DC. It was Eastern California District (I think I got that right). Anyway, independent of Merrick Garland.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 12:35 PM (XJ22o)

74 How many "partners" does he have?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (Cqx++)

That's just double plus good speech short form for first gestating owner of vagina.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:36 PM (dK+Kv)

75 68 66 Remember, we thought this about John Bolton.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (Zn6Q

John Bolton is not a Democrat.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (GP8V/)

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He's uniparty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (Zn6QU)

I was going to say sui generis, mainly because I like the phrase.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 12:36 PM (Gqar8)

76 I think it's a bit odd that the focus on Newsom's wife came as he's trying to position himself for a run at the White House. It's something the GOP would never do, but the rank and file Democrats would.

According to DOJ the investigation was opened during the Biden administration. So yes, this is definitely something Dems would do.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2026 12:36 PM (2ocoG)

77 Remember, we thought this about John Bolton.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (Zn6Q

John Bolton is not a Democrat.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (GP8V/)
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BINGO!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 22, 2026 12:36 PM (xvV+O)

78 He's uniparty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (Zn6QU)

No. He may be disloyal but he holds no positions of the Left and Democrats and is hated by them .

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:37 PM (GP8V/)

79 Gotta keep your eye on Booty. I guess Beshear too.

AOC has what it takes to win the nom outright if the fight was real - but it's not real, the DNC is full of shit, and their so-called primary is a joke.

Whoever it is they won't want to project too early. They are hoping they don't have to take on a Trump strong enough to help brand them.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:37 PM (22ggK)

80 I was going to say sui generis, mainly because I like the phrase.

Right? It's in a class by itself.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:37 PM (Riz8t)

81 LEAVE NAVIN ALONE
He's dyslexic and retarded doncha know.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 12:37 PM (UjdFS)

82 @67 I think you answered your own question. It didn't show up on a tax return because the Newsom's didn't want questions about where the money came from. These cases should be unbelievably easy to build , but convictions in Cali maybe they be tough

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 12:37 PM (Iurxt)

83 "The filmmaker and gender equity advocate has helped shape her husband's policies on issues like reproductive health, the male loneliness and mental health crisis, school nutrition, and regulating children's access to social media."

There's a "male loneliness" crisis? Did anyone tell the men? I'm sure this is just woke anti-male bullshit disguised as legitimate concern.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:38 PM (iFTx/)

84 Honestly, if the Democrats want to mobilize the base? Give Karen and Antifa that slovenly Nazi Platner. The rest of the Party will grudgingly acquiesce to that pervert beating off in the DC sewers if it means getting rid of MAGA, and they can at least pray Trump's successor can't drive base turnout like him.

*shrugs*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:38 PM (BI5O2)

85 >>>look at the corruption--so obvious and open, not even hiding it, because they knew, even if they got caught, nothing would happen to them.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM)



This is one reason why the Democrats fight like hell to keep Democrats in the White House, meaning controlling the US Dept of Justice. If you know what I mean.

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2026 12:38 PM (5rh/l)

86 51 Afternoon Ace
Someone pointed out the other day that despite Newsom crying that he is being targeted by Trump , no Dems are rushing to his defense. Might be to stop Newsom from running for president, but more likely that no one likes him.
Plus a lot are probably saying "focus on him , don't look at me"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (Iurxt)

I have said on this blog - for years now - that there must be the same type of Sarbannes-Oxley reckoning in the nonprofit industry. The average person thinks that because an organization is nonprofit that means they have no profits at all. Nothing can be further from the truth. Without profits, no organization can grow. There is a lot of money siphoned from these orgs with absolutely no oversight. You can even file a tax return for a nonprofit years late without any penalty whatever. There is so much room for theft it's not funny, and because so many politicians are now using these vehicles there's no incentive to begin to look. Besides this, nonprofits and foundations have far more influence over our lives and budgets than most for-profit corporations have, and they are mostly left-wing. This must end.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 12:38 PM (pdTuz)

87
Then we can get some crazy leftist conspiracy theories about how Trump is in league with this or that Democrat primary candidate for president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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Haha! It would be hilarious to see the headlines about how "the GOP picked Kamala" just so the Dems would lose 2028. "They knew this backwards-ass country would never elect a woman of color, and we fell for it again."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 12:38 PM (XJ22o)

88 And if the nom is Kamala which I doubt but not impossible since the powers love her for some reason, that means the 2028 election is wrapped up and she will be ordained the winner through whatever nefarious means they want.

Kamala "nomination" = Kamala Fake Victory

I think the nominee is already chosen and I think it's a man.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:39 PM (22ggK)

89 There are a minimum of 15k to 20k six-figure+, no-show, no-work "jobs" in this country that exist entirely to "employ" the families of Democrats.

Family and close friends of Democrat politicians.

Like Michelle Obama's $300,000 a year job--that only existed for Michelle Obama.

There's a reason the top Dems churn up hate against "billionaires."
Because they can't afford the public looking closely at how they and theirs live like royalty--on your dime.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:39 PM (73/SM)

90
78 He's uniparty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (Zn6QU)

No. He may be disloyal but he holds no positions of the Left and Democrats and is hated by them .

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:37 PM (GP8V/)

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I swear, the back and forth about "nothing is happening" is crazy.

"here's a thing that happened."

"It doesn't count."

This DOJ has shown the willingness to go after people who commit crimes who oppose Trump.

I'd place money on an indictment coming and DOJ pursuing it aggressively. That's the pattern we've seen from Trump 2.0. Once in front of a judge, it'll be open, but, yes, Bolton, noted anti-Trump figure, got indicted in DC and is being forced to pay $2 million by a DC court.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:39 PM (Zn6QU)

91 How does that work, I'm serious"

It's an exclusive club, and you're not in it.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:39 PM (cGjQu)

92 You just need to watch the Newsom /DeSantis debate to see how incompetent light weight Newsom is.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:40 PM (GP8V/)

93 79 Gotta keep your eye on Booty. I guess Beshear too.

AOC has what it takes to win the nom outright if the fight was real - but it's not real, the DNC is full of shit, and their so-called primary is a joke.

Whoever it is they won't want to project too early. They are hoping they don't have to take on a Trump strong enough to help brand them.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:37 PM (22ggK)

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Kamala just keeps hanging out at the top of the polls with super majorities of black support.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:40 PM (Zn6QU)

94 4
Crooked greasy haired motherfucker and his absolute bitch wife.
Posted by: steevy
.......

You're too kind.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 12:40 PM (UjdFS)

95 The Dems may have to run a Dem Socialist in 28. Newsom and Kamala a lre corrupt and stupid. Buttgiggle is a lightweight creation if the propaganda ministries.i still wouldn't be surprised at a Hillary movement, but the young folks and the Karen's will push AOC or some other DS dingbat

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (Iurxt)

96 California democrats don’t even realize that they’ve become so dependent on fraud that they have no idea how to win elections any other way. There’s not a single California politician that can win a national election because of that. Kamala came kind of close, but only because she still had most of Obama’s machine behind her. That machine is falling apart now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (kmEMr)

97 95 The Dems may have to run a Dem Socialist in 28. Newsom and Kamala a lre corrupt and stupid. Buttgiggle is a lightweight creation if the propaganda ministries.i still wouldn't be surprised at a Hillary movement, but the young folks and the Karen's will push AOC or some other DS dingbat

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (Iurxt)

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Biden was corrupt and stupid, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (Zn6QU)

98 There are a minimum of 15k to 20k six-figure+, no-show, no-work "jobs" in this country that exist entirely to "employ" the families of Democrats.
"

You're off by a few zeros.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (cGjQu)

99 Ho Hum. Another corrupt democrat not going to jail.

Posted by: TimothyJP at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (7IAWv)

100 Kamala just keeps hanging out at the top of the polls with super majorities of black support.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:40 PM (Zn6QU)

I hope we both get to see what happens. In any case I will know where to find you online.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (22ggK)

101 100 I hope we both get to see what happens. In any case I will know where to find you online.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (22ggK)

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Did you like and subscribe?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (Zn6QU)

102 Also I hate to say this but... polls?

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:42 PM (22ggK)

103 I read that his home purchase via LLC was done a week before the LLC was even created. How does that work, I'm serious. I don't understand this. And what is the advantage of buying via an LLC? And how come it didn't show up on the tax return?
Posted by: beckster at June 22, 2026 12:34 PM (kX27y)
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It's common practice for rich people to put assets in LLCs. There are tax advantages, possible loan advantages, no personal liability, and gives organizational flexibility.

But most rich people do it legally, and if you own an interest in an LLC it should be disclosed on your taxes.

It also happens that you sign paperwork for a sale to a special-purpose LLC before it's created. Not usual, but it's not unheard of. I don't think the property deed would be recorded before the LLC was formed.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:42 PM (iFTx/)

104 Did you like and subscribe?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (Zn6QU)

I am 1/200th of your fandom, bro.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (22ggK)

105 The donor class passionately hates Harris. That will be tough to overcome for her.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (BI5O2)

106 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:39 PM (Zn6QU

Okay name a Democrat who had been prosecuted.

And remember Comey was a Republican.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (GP8V/)

107 102 Also I hate to say this but... polls?

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:42 PM (22ggK)

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When it's literally every single one of them (save like 2 from February), then yes, I lend them credence.

Otherwise, it's just, "I'm filtering another party's process and electorate's priorities through my own perceptions, and they obviously don't know what they believe as well as I do."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (Zn6QU)

108 What's the problem? That hairgel isn't free, folks!

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (RjOoY)

109 Bwahahahaha. More mush from the wimp, which in this case is the London Times. Yeah, I think most of us are quite happy with our ongoing political renewal, thanks very much.

"And beneath the bluster, Trump’s limited view of the American Revolution is very familiar..."
"... it reflects, like so much else about him, the mainstream culture of the Cold War era, when museums and films did indeed tell a relentlessly upbeat story of American accomplishment — in vivid contrast to the plodding drudgery of communism. The leftist radicals of the 1960s and 1970s dissented noisily from this cosy view, but the majority accepted it unquestioningly. Since then a more extreme view has taken root: those who see the revolution not as the start of an unfinished project but as a fixed source of authority, a 250-year-old set of final answers. But as the US blows out its birthday candles, does it still have the capacity it once had for political renewal, while retaining its founding principles?

https://tinyurl.com/bdd8cdnx

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (Riz8t)

110 Jane Sanders is a piker. She tried, but just didn't have the oomph. Managed to avoid indictment, however.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (XeU6L)

111 104 Did you like and subscribe?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:41 PM (Zn6QU)

I am 1/200th of your fandom, bro.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (22ggK)

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Bruh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (Zn6QU)

112 STARMER RESIGNS

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

113 106 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:39 PM (Zn6QU

Okay name a Democrat who had been prosecuted.

And remember Comey was a Republican.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (GP8V/)

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Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (D-FL) for stealing money from FEMA.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (Zn6QU)

114 Also I hate to say this but... polls?

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:42 PM (22ggK)

Click the nic for a reminder.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (dK+Kv)

115 No wonder Jennifer Newsom refers to herself as first partner. The Newsoms are business partners in crime.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (NpAcC)

116 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (Zn6QU)

One of the major online betting places still has her at 14-1

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (22ggK)

117 Bashear
Shapiro

and wait I thought Hunter was gonna run?

lol

oh and Murphy is claiming he will run. there's a winner for sure.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (j+aD2)

118
112 STARMER RESIGNS

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

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I'm disappointed his threat to call a snap election was empty.

Oh well.

More Labour tyranny. New face should just make the Labour brand even more worthless since the party can't just blame one guy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:45 PM (Zn6QU)

119 Also I hate to say this but... polls?"

"Next up on the main stage, Tiffany! "

*so I'm told

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:45 PM (cGjQu)

120 It also happens that you sign paperwork for a sale to a special-purpose LLC before it's created. Not usual, but it's not unheard of. I don't think the property deed would be recorded before the LLC was formed.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Thanks!

Posted by: beckster at June 22, 2026 12:45 PM (kX27y)

121 You know the old saying, "pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered?"

The Dems look around and say, "but the biggest hog goes to the county fair and wins prizes!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:45 PM (73/SM)

122 116 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:43 PM (Zn6QU)

One of the major online betting places still has her at 14-1

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (22ggK)

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What special information do betting sites have?

If I explained them as "places for brainless white progressives to throw away their money" would it explain their ability to predict elections better or worse than, "they have special knowledge"?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (Zn6QU)

123
92 You just need to watch the Newsom /DeSantis debate to see how incompetent light weight Newsom is.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:40 PM (GP8V/)

I watched that, and remember it well. Newsom said it was unfair to allow DeSantis to use charts that proved Gavin was lying.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (kmEMr)

124 Jennifer Siebel Newsom is one of these supernaturally horrible women.

I "accidentally" killed my sister with a golf cart.

Posted by: First Sperm Looter Jenny Newsom at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (pBJ6M)

125 I've noticed Gavin Grifter's hair is turning grey under the grease. It may become white soon.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
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He's going for the Paulie Walnuts silver wings.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (XvL8K)

126 And more, it never ends. They need to go to jail
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Where the guy who reminds us about things that will never happen?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:47 PM (V6d0j)

127 When can we expect to have hearings?

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2026 12:47 PM (PVV5z)

128 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:47 PM (vf0Uk)

129 Cherfilus"?

gesundheit

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:47 PM (cGjQu)

130 Speaking of white hair, Obama looks like a Qtip now.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (Gqar8)

131 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (Zn6QU)

I'm not calling it special information at all. I'm just saying that's the market right now in contrast to the polls and that fact should be of interest to you. Nothing more nothing less.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (22ggK)

132 I "accidentally" killed my sister with a golf cart.

Posted by: First Sperm Looter Jenny Newsom at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (pBJ6M)
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What a not fair way to go!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (V6d0j)

133 Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (NpAcC)

Probably, but it is a stupid name. It's as if she entirely rejects the idea of being called a wife. It's doesn't sound non sexist if that's what she intended. Might as well go all the way and call herself a "gestating parent and partner."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (ZeH0U)

134 STARMER RESIGNS
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (iFTx/)


So? The people won't be able to sue him into oblivion for his actions brining in and defending those that raped and murdered THOUSANDS of Brits.

New guy will be the same. Nothing changes. UK still f*cked.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (vf0Uk)

135
From now on I'm calling Newsom "Th West Coast Plattner."
Posted by: zombie

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I think the California Clintons is it.

Tweak: I bet Jennifer is smiling at her mirror mirror on the wall because SHE'S no clumsy, dowdy, unlikeable, twinset-wearing, left-behind cuckwife. That's where Hillary made her mistake. She got unlucky in the looks and charm department. Not Jennifer, the Fairest Partner of Them All.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (XJ22o)

136 Flaming Skull worthy that Keir "Uke Rentboy" Starmer is out?


Keir Starmer resigns as British prime minister after devastating Labour revolt and local election losses
Trump had criticized Starmer over the Iran crisis, saying 'This is not Winston Churchill that we're dealing with'

https://tinyurl.com/25hewfbx

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (iFTx/)

137 The Newsom's should be imprisoned.

They won't be.

In before the 'nothing will happen' guy?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (vf0Uk)

138 What special information do betting sites have?"

Your CC number

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (cGjQu)

139 The man who is hopelessly in debt is a lot worse off than the government which is in the same fix. The individual is subject to laws which can seize his property; the government just raises the debt limit a few more billions and pays more interest which accounts for much of your high taxes of today.


--Knoxville, Iowa, Express
March, 1956

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (I5lp2)

140 Speaking of white hair, Obama looks like a Qtip now.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (Gqar
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After multiple insertions.

Ears.

What were you morons thinking otherwise?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (V6d0j)

141 How do you like the part of "showed his tax returns to (a very select) group of reporters?"

Hand-picked to be the most loyal and friendly, of course.

And not to release the returns to the public--as I'm sure he has several tweets demanding of Trump.

And even they were shocked at what they briefly saw, like, "holy shit, this is insane fraud (and I only have a Twitter Degree in Accounting."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (73/SM)

142 Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (D-FL) for stealing money from FEMA.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (Zn6QU)

LOL. I mean her crime wasn't very nuanced but I'll give you that one though will have to wait to see if anything happens to her as her trial isn't until 2027.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (GP8V/)

143 There's the part where Bolton isn't a Democrat, with all the attendant legal protections. And he is hated by all their voters. And he is out of politics and no longer has any pull.

That made him weak.

Fortunately for Trump's DoJ, Bolton is also hated by all *his* voters. It was an easy, cheap virtue signal for a department in very bad odor for their inaction on so many other fronts that are much more important to those same voters. It clearly didn't move opinion much, but it was worth a shot.

BTW, all the same goes for Comey, who lost his Democrat armor when he fucked Hillary over by reopening her investigation in '16.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (BI5O2)

144 131 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (Zn6QU)

I'm not calling it special information at all. I'm just saying that's the market right now in contrast to the polls and that fact should be of interest to you. Nothing more nothing less.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (22ggK)

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The rate at which prediction markets regularly flip odds based on newest bit of information tells you everything about their reliability.

The people betting on it simply have decided that the polls mean nothing and that Kamala just won't run based on literally nothing.

Small markets, largely dominated by white progressives.

They're only worth making some beer money on, not serious consideration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (Zn6QU)

145
What a not fair way to go!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (V6d0j)


Should've putted around instead. Speed kills.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:50 PM (vf0Uk)

146 STARMER RESIGNS
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (iFTx/)


So? The people won't be able to sue him into oblivion for his actions brining in and defending those that raped and murdered THOUSANDS of Brits.

New guy will be the same. Nothing changes. UK still f*cked.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (vf0Uk)
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I didn't say anything would change. The next clown could be worse. I was merely reporting on an often-discussed topic on this blog.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 12:50 PM (iFTx/)

147 142 Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (D-FL) for stealing money from FEMA.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (Zn6QU)

LOL. I mean her crime wasn't very nuanced but I'll give you that one though will have to wait to see if anything happens to her as her trial isn't until 2027.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (GP8V/)

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I'm sorry that I found an example and that the justice system allows for defendants to slow the process.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:50 PM (Zn6QU)

148 RIP Alan Greenspan.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 12:50 PM (cSmVS)

149 The Newsom's should be imprisoned.

They won't be.

In before the 'nothing will happen' guy?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (vf0Uk)
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See comment 126.

You re-sent that remark!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:51 PM (V6d0j)

150 First partner?

She trans?

He trans?

They not actually married?

Or is this just more California bullshit destroying man and woman.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:51 PM (vf0Uk)

151 No wonder Jennifer Newsom refers to herself as first partner. The Newsoms are business partners in crime.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 12:44 PM (NpAcC)
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Seems to be a common practice among Dem politicians (see the Clintons for Example A)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 12:51 PM (gnNyN)

152 That's where Hillary made her mistake. She got unlucky in the looks and charm department.

She was not entirely hideous looking when she was young (although she's always been the antithesis of charming). She's the publically-displayed picture of Dorian Gray, with the corruption and hate written on her face.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:51 PM (Riz8t)

153
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (Zn6QU)

BTW it's not a prediction site. It's a major online sports betting site. They are not in it to lose money and 14-1 is crazy odds for a sure thing.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:51 PM (22ggK)

154 RIP Alan Greenspan.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 12:50 PM (cSmVS)
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Gone to even greener pastures.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:52 PM (V6d0j)

155 "Democrat elites have been doing this for decades."

True. I'd go a bit further, and conjecture that all our fucking elites are robbing us blind.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 12:52 PM (ah3/6)

156
See comment 126.

You re-sent that remark!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:51 PM (V6d0j)


Alas, I did NOT read every comment before posting.

That's on me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:52 PM (vf0Uk)

157 Jennifer has a Charlize Theron vibe
going on.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 12:52 PM (Gqar8)

158 We’re in the decline and fall stage. Paging Edward Gibbon to the courtesy phone.. paging Edward Gibbon…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 12:52 PM (Bf6DE)

159 Starmer says he's out. Probably to spare the rent boys.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 22, 2026 12:19 PM (1Ff7Z)

Starmer says he is out, but he also says he will be PM until August so he is as out as much as Zelensky

Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2026 12:52 PM (rbvCR)

160 >>>Are their any living Democrat politicians who are not crooks?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

>Are there any living Republican politicians who are not complicit?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 12:53 PM (fkjGs)

161 153
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:49 PM (Zn6QU)

BTW it's not a prediction site. It's a major online sports betting site. They are not in it to lose money and 14-1 is crazy odds for a sure thing.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:51 PM (22ggK)

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What's the difference between a prediction site and a betting site?

And I've already put money on Kamala winning the nomination. Max payout is $5,600 so far.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:53 PM (Zn6QU)

162 Mrs Newsom is attractive , but has a soulless look

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 12:53 PM (Iurxt)

163 RIP Alan Greenspan.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 12:50 PM (cSmVS)
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Gone to even greener pastures.


Now even less prone to irrational exuberance.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:54 PM (Riz8t)

164 'To conject' should be a verb, if it isn't already.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 12:54 PM (ah3/6)

165 when he fucked Hillary over"

Mind bleach! Stat!

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:54 PM (cGjQu)

166 Forget Party.

Your ruling class hates you and looks at you as lower than an animal. Of course they're stealing from you.

All of them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:54 PM (BI5O2)

167
Alan Greenspan's wife is NBC new's Aaaaaaandrea Mitchell. (Best Rush Limbaugh impression)

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 12:54 PM (OkYzo)

168 And more, it never ends. They need to go to jail
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The line of people needing to go to jail gets longer and longer, and yet, no one goes to jail.

Anyway, I'd like for congress to update the Anti-Money Laundering (AML) laws to come down hard on NGOs. But since this is one of the more lucrative methods of enriching public servants, it won't go anywhere.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (Dv3i1)

169 'To conject' should be a verb, if it isn't already.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 12:54 PM (ah3/6)


Hope should be a verb too!

Posted by: Kumswala Harris at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (vf0Uk)

170 Speaking of white hair, Obama looks like a Qtip now.
Posted by: tubal
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lol

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (ZHOnm)

171 I look forward to a Harris/Vance debate. Or even a Harris/Rubio debate.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (Gqar8)

172 Greenspan was a decent even good Fed chair. Compare him to the Powell disaster that just left…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (+gA9j)

173 I'm sorry that I found an example and that the justice system allows for defendants to slow the process.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:50 PM (Zn6

Sorry you think you that's a gotcha because they got a black rep that outright stole 5 million dollars. I'm surprised you didn't list the black mayor of Baltimore too.

But go ahead and believe that the lawfare is non partisan.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (GP8V/)

174 You mean the guy having un-masked dinner parties at the French Laundry during Covid while mandating that everyone else huddle in their homes is purportedly stealing from the taxpayers? It's almost like he despises his constituents.

Posted by: Emmie at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (FMtrg)

175 Alan Greenspan's wife is NBC new's Aaaaaaandrea Mitchell. (Best Rush Limbaugh impression)
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 12:54 PM (OkYzo)


May her sorrow take her off the TV forevermore.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (vf0Uk)

176 167
Alan Greenspan's wife is NBC new's Aaaaaaandrea Mitchell. (Best Rush Limbaugh impression)
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 12:54 PM (OkYzo)

I first saw the Greenspan news from Bloomberg. They credited NBC News for the scoop, mentioning that the announcement came from Alan's wife.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (cSmVS)

177 173
Sorry you think you that's a gotcha because they got a black rep that outright stole 5 million dollars. I'm surprised you didn't list the black mayor of Baltimore too.

But go ahead and believe that the lawfare is non partisan.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (GP8V/)

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Is that what you think I was implying?

I'm saying that the Trump DOJ is pursuing opponents who commit crimes, not that the other side doesn't do it.

Can you please provide me a quote from myself where I said that the other side doesn't do it? I'm curious where I gave this impression.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (Zn6QU)

178 Hillary had the Darth Vader look at the Obama Center opening. She was bundled up so maybe she's ill. Still think she might have a go in 28

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (Iurxt)

179 Alan Greenspan's wife is NBC new's Aaaaaaandrea Mitchell. (Best Rush Limbaugh impression)
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 22, 2026 12:54 PM (OkYzo)

One of my favorite of his quips.

"Aaaaaaaandrea Mitchell, NBC News, uh-WASHington. Folks, did you know she's married to Alan Greenspan? That's right... every day's Halloween at that house!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (BI5O2)

180 We do have the verb 'to posit,' but almost nobody knows what it means.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (ah3/6)

181 Breaking911 @Breaking911
22m

DEVELOPING: Police are investigating a shooting in Montreal’s Côte-des-Neiges neighborhood after reports of multiple shots fired. Initial reports indicate a police officer may have been wounded, and the suspect remains at large.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (V6d0j)

182 What's the difference between a prediction site and a betting site?

And I've already put money on Kamala winning the nomination. Max payout is $5,600 so far.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:53 PM (Zn6QU)

Prediction site might be more subject to manipulation or just an operation in itself. A longtime established betting site is just that. 14-1 is insane odds for a sure thing.

6 or 7-1 no problem. Maybe 8 at an absolute push. All I'm saying.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:57 PM (22ggK)

183 150 First partner?

She trans?

He trans?

They not actually married?

Or is this just more California bullshit destroying man and woman.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:51 PM (vf0Uk)

Kathy Hochul would like a word.

Posted by: Martha Stewart at June 22, 2026 12:57 PM (N39Ws)

184 Charlize Theron vibe
going on."

Nice to look at, but damn....crazy

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:57 PM (cGjQu)

185 I "accidentally" killed my sister with a golf cart.

Posted by: First Sperm Looter Jenny Newsom at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (pBJ6M)
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What a not fair way to go!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (V6d0j)


That's subpar.

Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 22, 2026 12:57 PM (dK+Kv)

186 The New Republic once reported on a cult of Greenspan on Wall Street, with icons and candles. Stephen Glass was on the byline.

Posted by: and on the third day . . . at June 22, 2026 12:57 PM (gKWVE)

187
DEVELOPING: Police are investigating a shooting in Montreal’s Côte-des-Neiges neighborhood after reports of multiple shots fired. Initial reports indicate a police officer may have been wounded, and the suspect remains at large.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (V6d0j)


How is this possible? Didn't they outlaw guns and buy them all back?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:57 PM (vf0Uk)

188 Breaking911 @Breaking911
22m

DEVELOPING: Police are investigating a shooting in Montreal’s Côte-des-Neiges neighborhood after reports of multiple shots fired. Initial reports indicate a police officer may have been wounded, and the suspect remains at large.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (V6d0j)
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Jewish neighborhood.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (V6d0j)

189 Without the DOJ investigating Trump and the Epstein files, no DOJ investigation is legitimate. It’s all political persecution and prosecution.

You can tell its BS when the money trail is thousands and not millions or billions of dollars. Of course Trump wants his enemies in jail and his chosen cabinet know they better or its their job.

There needs to be a panel made of both parties and one independent that have to unanimously approve any investigation. If any of the three are against it, there has to be a valid reason. That would help a lot of this noise.

Why is Newsom leading in so many Democratic 2028 polls? There is enough fake evidence the Right can point to to hurt him, it seems destined to fail. He has a great social media team that's brilliant at calling out Trump's BS, but he'd just be another uninspiring centrist candidate that would probably lose.

If "establishment" Democrats were so unpopular they wouldn't be making it past the primaries. We wouldn't have Bernie, the most popular progressive/leftist to run, losing by huge numbers against Clinton and Biden.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (ycI94)

190 I am full of it.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (dK+Kv)

/stands at bat, watching the pitch float lazily by

Posted by: SciVo at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (Sy6m/)

191 Crime pays. With taxpayer dollars!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (n5tGW)

192 Jennifer Siebel Newsom is one of these supernaturally horrible women.
.......

We breed them here in California, just usually uglier.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (UjdFS)

193 I was convinced that Newsom would be the '28 nom. This is a potential campaign ender, but one can never overestimate the left's willingness to overlook blatant corruption in their endless quest for power. If not Newsom, who?

No, it will NOT be Kamala.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:24 PM (Riz8t)

We're about to see what happens to the Democrat vote when a black woman is kept off the ticket (Texas).

It will absolutely be Kamala.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (rii+a)

194 How is this possible? Didn't they outlaw guns and buy them all back?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 12:57 PM (vf0Uk)
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And yet guns don't care.

Bastard guns!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:59 PM (V6d0j)

195 185 I "accidentally" killed my sister with a golf cart.

Posted by: First Sperm Looter Jenny Newsom at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (pBJ6M)
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What a not fair way to go!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 12:48 PM (V6d0j)


That's subpar.
Posted by: Bronco Bama at June 22, 2026 12:57 PM (dK+Kv)

The driver's fault?

Posted by: Martha Stewart at June 22, 2026 12:59 PM (N39Ws)

196 We do have the verb 'to posit,' but almost nobody knows what it means.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (ah3/6)

I often posit things at the bank.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:59 PM (22ggK)

197 Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 12:53 PM (fkjGs)

Probably the vast majority of all politicians are, but since this thread was on Newsom and his "partner" I didn't include Republicans.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 12:59 PM (lQ+/f)

198 189 Without the DOJ investigating Trump and the Epstein files, no DOJ investigation is legitimate. It’s all political persecution and prosecution.

Oh FFS....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 12:59 PM (afi9t)

199 182 Prediction site might be more subject to manipulation or just an operation in itself. A longtime established betting site is just that. 14-1 is insane odds for a sure thing.

6 or 7-1 no problem. Maybe 8 at an absolute push. All I'm saying.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:57 PM (22ggK)

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I've explained the audience for who bets on these sites and how they end up flipping instantly based on news stories.

The second Kamala announces she's running, she'll shoot up to a favorite because the people betting don't have special information. The market is small and populated by people who simply choose to ignore information they don't like. Like...literally all polling on this race (those things that drive their belief that Platner will beat Collins).

They are worthless for predictions because that's what drive them now. The only use is to take advantage of their myopic views and take money from them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:00 PM (Zn6QU)

200 DEVELOPING: Police are investigating a shooting in Montreal’s Côte-des-Neiges neighborhood after reports of multiple shots fired. Initial reports indicate a police officer may have been wounded, and the suspect remains at large.
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I read the Le Journal de Montréal to keep my French language skills up. You'd be surprised how many criminals are actual French Canadians rather than imports. Must be something about living in the upper latitudes that drives men mad.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:00 PM (Dv3i1)

201 So, the left's pushing Newsom off the stage? Who've they got instead? I'm not ready to buy another Kamala run after her disaster last time.

You can't fix that level of stupid.

However... the infrastructure that was in place for her in 2024, the federal workforce ready to do the left's bidding, is still there, despite what some might believe.

The state's bench is deep. Very deep.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 01:00 PM (jehhT)

202 The driver's fault?"

That's rough.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:00 PM (cGjQu)

203 We do have the verb 'to posit,' but almost nobody knows what it means.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (ah3/6)


Isn't that when you write notes on those little yellow things and stick it to your refrigerator?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (vf0Uk)

204 >>>That's subpar.

Posted by: Bronco Bama

>Don't go there, it's a trap.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (fkjGs)

205 189 Without the DOJ investigating Trump and the Epstein files, no DOJ investigation is legitimate. It’s all political persecution and prosecution.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (

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"No, I've never heard that Epstein was begging people for dirt on Trump because he didn't have any himself, and I plan on never hearing it in my life because it would challenge my assumptions."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (Zn6QU)

206
AOC has what it takes to win the nom outright if the fight was real

Posted by: ...

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Watch out for the DSA candidates from New York this November -- the ones Madmanni is pushing. Darializa, Brad Handler (?), Claire Something. If they win, someone just might put some real effort behind AOC, at least to create a Plausible Presidency threat from her for the coming years.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (XJ22o)

207 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (Zn6QU)

You implied that it doesn't make a difference whether a person is a Republican or Democrat on whether their alleged crimes will be pursued.

You expressed your frustration at the 'nothing will happen' guy. When in reality he's been right when it comes to Democrats.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (GP8V/)

208 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:00 PM (Zn6QU)

Unlike 90% of internet arguments... we will see.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (22ggK)

209 Without the DOJ investigating Trump and the Epstein files, no DOJ investigation is legitimate. It’s all political persecution and prosecution.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (ycI94
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These creeps masterbate thinking about the "Epstein files." I'm not joking. They have a pathological obsessions with Epstein that is sexual. They get sexually aroused just thinking about him.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (iFTx/)

210 Without the DOJ investigating Trump and the Epstein files, no DOJ investigation is legitimate.

Cool. Instruct your lawyer to try that in court.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (gKWVE)

211 We're about to see what happens to the Democrat vote when a black woman is kept off the ticket (Texas).

It will absolutely be Kamala.

Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely LOVE for Kamala to be the nom, but when your big donors have all sworn her off, that ain't happening.

I think there are many Dems who are starting to realize they can't keep treating blacks, especially ludicrous black pols, as sacred cows who must be obeyed at all times. It's killing them at the polls.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

212 193
We're about to see what happens to the Democrat vote when a black woman is kept off the ticket (Texas).

It will absolutely be Kamala.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (rii+a)

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"Talarico lost because you betrayed the black voting base."
-100% going to be said...a lot

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (Zn6QU)

213
The Black Congressional Caucus is going to take a hit in the midterms.

The USAID and ACT BLUE funding for what is their stranglehold of power in the Democrat Party is petering out.

Socialists are appropriating their special privileges.

But black on the ticket in 28 is a given.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 01:02 PM (Y8DZL)

214 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (XJ22o)

I can see that

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:02 PM (22ggK)

215 Montreal: Pics of one injured LEO and an apparent captured or killed. camo clad shooter:

https://tinyurl.com/twjahvvj

Prayers for the innocent.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:02 PM (V6d0j)

216 We're about to see what happens to the Democrat vote when a black woman is kept off the ticket (Texas).

It will absolutely be Kamala.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (rii+a)


The joke is on you!

Kumswala isn't black!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:02 PM (vf0Uk)

217 207 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:56 PM (Zn6QU)

You implied that it doesn't make a difference whether a person is a Republican or Democrat on whether their alleged crimes will be pursued.

You expressed your frustration at the 'nothing will happen' guy. When in reality he's been right when it comes to Democrats.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (GP8V/)

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But...I gave you a Democrat it happened to.

And then it doesn't matter because it's too easy or whatever.

Seriously, if you think this Trump 2.0 is literally no different from Merrick Garland's DOJ, then what's the point?

Might as well stop paying attention to politics and go fishing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:03 PM (Zn6QU)

218 172 Greenspan was a decent even good Fed chair. Compare him to the Powell disaster that just left…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 12:55 PM (+gA9j)

I'd argue that he prematurely burst the Dot-Com bubble in 2000, for one. The industry was growing, and there was no reason for him to hike rates to slow down real growth. He was early then. I'd also argue that he aided the real-estate bubble that caused the Great Financial Crisis more recently, but he ended up leaving before the music stopped there.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 01:03 PM (cSmVS)

219 >>It may seem absurd that the Trump administration could be investigating Newsom for questionable ethics, when Trump has hawked everything from crypto-coins to sneakers from the Oval Office. But the problem Newsom now faces is that behested payments are actually skeevy, and legal or not, they make an excellent target for pummeling the presidential contender. Especially because some of the charities are tied to his wife.


It's like reading the mind of a college newspaper writer as she journeys through local political corruption for the first time.

Skeevy? You may think it's "absurd?" really?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 01:03 PM (X8xt3)

220
"Talarico lost because you betrayed the black voting base."
-100% going to be said...a lot
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (Zn6QU)


F*CK that cracker ass homo asshole.......

Posted by: Jasmine Crockett at June 22, 2026 01:03 PM (vf0Uk)

221 I "accidentally" killed my sister with a golf cart.

Posted by: First Sperm Looter Jenny Newsom at June 22, 2026 12:46 PM (pBJ6M)
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What a not fair way to go!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
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I've thrown myself, and others, out of a golf cart when young and stupid. Back in the 80s, it was possible to override the governor on those gas carts.

I suspect several morons have done the same.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 01:04 PM (XvL8K)

222 Oh no... Tucker Carlson is leaving the Republican party.. Says it's "immoral." or something...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 01:04 PM (afi9t)

223 What's the difference between a prediction site and a betting site?"

Typically, "betting" means the site sets the odds (you vs them).
Prediction means some vs others.

Either way, the house wins (the vig)

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:04 PM (cGjQu)

224
These politicians do a hundred billion dollars worth of damage so they can get a million dollars.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 22, 2026 01:04 PM (azNOR)

225 Oh no... Tucker Carlson is leaving the Republican party.. Says it's "immoral." or something...

Thanks, man. Your departure makes our job easier.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (Riz8t)

226 Oh no... Tucker Carlson is leaving the Republican party.. Says it's "immoral." or something...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 01:04 PM (afi9t)


They don't have Republicans in Qatar.

Posted by: Jasmine Crockett at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (vf0Uk)

227 That's subpar.

Posted by: Bronco Bama

>Don't go there, it's a trap.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (fkjGs)
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Only a putts would end up there.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (V6d0j)

228 I think there are many Dems who are starting to realize they can't keep treating blacks, especially ludicrous black pols, as sacred cows who must be obeyed at all times. It's killing them at the polls.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

But this is the beauty of the trap they've put themselves in.

Black women vote 90% Democrat, and they're reliable voters. One part of the party realizes this. The other part of the party realizes that being in thrall to this relatively tiny demographic is hurting them (now do 'trans'). This HUGE schism in the Democrat party is real and it's going to damage them to a significant degree.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (rii+a)

229 Shyte.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (vf0Uk)

230 Don't go there, it's a trap."

You'll have to wedge your way out

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (cGjQu)

231
These creeps masterbate thinking about the "Epstein files." I'm not joking. They have a pathological obsessions with Epstein that is sexual. They get sexually aroused just thinking about him.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (iFTx/)

If they were told by the right people to stop thinking about it tonight they would never mention it again.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (22ggK)

232 The growing split between the Dems and Dem Socialists produces an image in my head of Chuck Schumer flipping undercooked cheeseburgers and doing the Kevin Bacon "all is well".
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (Iurxt)

233
I look forward to a Harris/Vance debate. Or even a Harris/Rubio debate.
Posted by: tubal

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Dear God, can you imagine? Everything she said would be "As a woman of color..." That's all she's got.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (XJ22o)

234 222 Oh no... Tucker Carlson is leaving the Republican party.. Says it's "immoral." or something...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 01:04 PM (afi9t)

...checks the "give-a-shit-ometer". Nope. Nothing.

Posted by: Martha Stewart at June 22, 2026 01:06 PM (N39Ws)

235 We're about to see what happens to the Democrat vote when a black woman is kept off the ticket (Texas).

It will absolutely be Kamala.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

I have to disagree. Kamala was a dud in the Presidential primaries, and had to be annointed to be the 2024 candidate, because she's such a loser. Sure, the Dems rallied behind her and tried to drag her across the finish line, but their radical wing views her as a moderate, corporate sellout (she was a prosecutor!). If there are other options in a contested primary, she'll lose, and she's not the kind of establishment candidate the party would force people to support to stop a successful radical insurgent (like Biden stopping Bernie in 2024).

It takes a VERY special candidate to lose a general election and STILL be a serious candidate for the next primary, let alone win. Trump is that kind of unique candidate, and Kamala isn't.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 01:06 PM (ycI94)

236 213
The Black Congressional Caucus is going to take a hit in the midterms.

The USAID and ACT BLUE funding for what is their stranglehold of power in the Democrat Party is petering out.

Socialists are appropriating their special privileges.

But black on the ticket in 28 is a given.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 01:02 PM (Y8DZL)

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Blacks will makeup a clear majority of the Democrat primary electorate in South Carolina. They have grown proportionally as a slice of the Democrat electorate over the past 20 years. Their voice is outsized, especially if the white Democrats don’t coalesce around an alternate. And enough white Democrats like Kamala to make that simply impossible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:06 PM (Zn6QU)

237 These creeps masterbate thinking about the "Epstein files." I'm not joking. They have a pathological obsessions with Epstein that is sexual. They get sexually aroused just thinking about him."

They want to be him...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:06 PM (cGjQu)

238 But this is the beauty of the trap they've put themselves in.

Black women vote 90% Democrat, and they're reliable voters. One part of the party realizes this. The other part of the party realizes that being in thrall to this relatively tiny demographic is hurting them (now do 'trans'). This HUGE schism in the Democrat party is real and it's going to damage them to a significant degree.

Fully agree.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:06 PM (Riz8t)

239 Maybe the people that are reliable D voters are also the easiest to manipulate. Thinking they have a mind of their own, even a hive mind of their own... huge mistake.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:07 PM (22ggK)

240 213
The Black Congressional Caucus is going to take a hit in the midterms.

The USAID and ACT BLUE funding for what is their stranglehold of power in the Democrat Party is petering out.

Socialists are appropriating their special privileges.

But black on the ticket in 28 is a given.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 01:02 PM (Y8DZL)


Good. Many Hispanic voters will not vote for a black, especially not for a black woman.

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2026 01:07 PM (5rh/l)

241 Black women vote 90% Democrat,
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Black women now exceed white males in crime statistics. Coincidence?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:07 PM (Dv3i1)

242 Dear God, can you imagine? Everything she said would be "As a woman of color..." That's all she's got.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (XJ22o)


And her opponent should put commercials in loop of her reminding everyone of her "Indian upbringing" and all the East Indian food she grew up eating.


Bish ain't black.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:07 PM (vf0Uk)

243 "AOC has what it takes"

Very first time I saw her, I figured 'she'll be prez someday.' But I suck at predictions.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (Jr5Lq)

244 Many Hispanic voters will not vote for a black, especially not for a black woman."

I see you've met Mrs' extended family...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (cGjQu)

245 And her opponent should put commercials in loop of her reminding everyone of her "Indian upbringing" and all the East Indian food she grew up eating.

And babbling about coconuts.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (Riz8t)

246 Worse:

(((IsraelMatzav))) @IsraelMatzav
43s

*Montreal Shooting:* Initial reports indicate numerous terrorists and a hostage situation in a kosher supermarket near the scene.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (V6d0j)

247 That's subpar.

Posted by: Bronco Bama

>Don't go there, it's a trap.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 01:01 PM (fkjGs)
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Only a putts would end up there.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:05 PM (V6d0j)

*golf clap*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (dK+Kv)

248 I hope the golf puns have run their course.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (77rzZ)

249 235
It takes a VERY special candidate to lose a general election and STILL be a serious candidate for the next primary, let alone win. Trump is that kind of unique candidate, and Kamala isn't.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 01:06 PM (ycI94)
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We just don’t have enough examples of failed candidates who ran again to make any kind of serious statistical analysis of the situation. They’re vanishingly rare, and Kamala is going to decide that she’s Trumpian enough, that Trump’s example clears the path for herself. And she walks in with name recognition off the charts (Newsom has similar levels, but he still can’t beat her, so it’s not just name rec in that face off), and the perception that she was robbed by Biden (common enough belief on the left, especially the black left).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:09 PM (Zn6QU)

250 219 >>It may seem absurd that the Trump administration could be investigating Newsom for questionable ethics, when Trump has hawked everything from crypto-coins to sneakers from the Oval Office. But the problem Newsom now faces is that behested payments are actually skeevy, and legal or not, they make an excellent target for pummeling the presidential contender. Especially because some of the charities are tied to his wife.


It's like reading the mind of a college newspaper writer as she journeys through local political corruption for the first time.

Skeevy? You may think it's "absurd?" really?!?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 01:03 PM (X8xt3)

The article writer is an idiot. There's a huge difference between using your name to hawk goods to sell to the public and using your influence to facilitate regulatory capture and get paid for the privilege at the same time.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 22, 2026 01:09 PM (cSmVS)

251 And babbling about coconuts"

I like coconuts...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:09 PM (cGjQu)

252 248 I hope the golf puns have run their course.
___

They have certainly gone a fairway.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 01:09 PM (Dv3i1)

253 @209 Elric, yup it s a masturbatory fantasy. Ask any Dem what they hope to get out of the "Epstein files" and the best you get is "what do you mean?".

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 01:09 PM (Iurxt)

254 Montreal Shooting:* Initial reports indicate numerous terrorists and a hostage situation in a kosher supermarket near the scene.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (V6d0j)

We may never know the motive.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:09 PM (22ggK)

255 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (sgkY8)

256 But that's not all, Gavin Newsom "bought his $3.7 million Sacramento estate, it was done through an LLC, but that LLC doesn't seem to have appeared on his tax returns -- There's a lot of questions"
_________

I'll bet a large some of money that what happened is this: The LLC that owns the property is owned by another LLC that is then disclosed on the tax return.

LCCs owning LLCs owning LLCs is an old trick to try to hide assets, or making assets hard to trace, or to confuse potential tax audits. It's legal, but easily abused.

It also wouldn't surprise me if the property is ultimately owned not by Newscum personally, but by one of the charities he controls. Another old trick to try to conceal assets.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (iFTx/)

257 I hope the golf puns have run their course."

They've stopped short of the hole.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (cGjQu)

258 I hope the golf puns have run their course.
Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (77rzZ)


That would lead to a sub par performance.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (vf0Uk)

259 And her opponent should put commercials in loop of her reminding everyone of her "Indian upbringing" and all the East Indian food she grew up eating.


Bish ain't black.
Posted by: Sponge
****

Just bring up the other side of her family. You know, the Jamaican slave traders.

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (I5lp2)

260 Oh, sh#t, a hostage situation at a kosher store.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (X8xt3)

261 Hair gel ain't cheap, you know.

Posted by: Gavin Newsom (D-CA) at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (0sNs1)

262 Montreal Shooting:* Initial reports indicate numerous terrorists and a hostage situation in a kosher supermarket near the scene.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (V6d0j)

We may never know the motive.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:09 PM (22ggK)

...vowed the Prime Minister.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (rii+a)

263 Got a mason working up a quote for repairs to this 130-year old dump. When he delivers it, and I read it, I shall certainly die on the spot of a heart attack. Just letting you know that relief is on the way.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:11 PM (Jr5Lq)

264 That would lead to a sub par performance."

So a birdie, an eagle, or an... ace?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:11 PM (cGjQu)

265 Hair gel ain't cheap, you know.

Posted by: Gavin Newsom (D-CA) at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (0sNs1)


Acktually....

Posted by: Mary, whose got something about her at June 22, 2026 01:11 PM (rii+a)

266 If I'm Kamala Harris, I'm grifting as much money as possible on the promise I might run again. Then I'm taking a payoff not to run. Like Bernie, except drinkier.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 01:11 PM (gKWVE)

267 BIG BRYLCREEM is ripping us off.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (DfK6m)

268 Epstein was a huge Democrat supporter and a Trump hater but somehow the Left think that's their ticket to smear Trump and the Right.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (GP8V/)

269 No puns about ball washers?

Posted by: Kamala! 2028! 2032! at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (0sNs1)

270 266 If I'm Kamala Harris, I'm grifting as much money as possible on the promise I might run again. Then I'm taking a payoff not to run. Like Bernie, except drinkier.

I had not considered this option, but it sounds plausible. It may be too clever for Kamala, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (Riz8t)

271 What is remotely appealing to James Talarico to black women who usually vote for Democrats?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (7RYym)

272 257 I hope the golf puns have run their course."

They've stopped short of the hole.
Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (cGjQu)

This is becoming a wedge issue among the horde.

Posted by: Chipping away at our camaraderie at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (TbWk/)

273 Hand over all your money or the blintz gets it!

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (gKWVE)

274 And she walks in with name recognition off the charts (Newsom has similar levels, but he still can’t beat her, so it’s not just name rec in that face off), and the perception that she was robbed by Biden (common enough belief on the left, especially the black left).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:09 PM (Zn6QU)

How many times did we hear - and from how many places - that 107 days just wasn't enough time for us to learn about the majesty and perfection that would be a Harris Administration...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (rii+a)

275 BIG BRYLCREEM is ripping us off.
Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (DfK6m)

Just a dab.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (wVcYX)

276 >>We may never know the motive.

But really, the biggest concern is the (potential, imaginary) backlash against the terrorist's mostly peaceful community!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 01:13 PM (X8xt3)

277 Saw a video about the World Cup fans and their difference in experience between the US and Canada.

People are LOVING the US and are learning that the media has been lying to them about our great country.

Mexico is even being quite hospitable to their guests.

Canada, however, people are getting their luggage stolen from hotel lobbies and having various other crimes committed against them on a significant scale.

Well done, Canada!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:13 PM (vf0Uk)

278 I’m beginning to believe it’ll actually be AOC for the Dems in 28. She’s in perfect lockstep with their base…. And she will fail hard. It’ll be glorious

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 01:13 PM (yz/88)

279 >>>I hope the golf puns have run their course.

Posted by: Bulg

We're chipping away but not quite there yet.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 01:13 PM (fkjGs)

280 257 I hope the golf puns have run their course."

They've stopped short of the hole.
Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (cGjQu)

This is becoming a wedge issue among the horde.
Posted by: Chipping away at our camaraderie at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (TbWk/)

I'm all right
Nobody worry 'bout me

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 01:13 PM (wVcYX)

281 Blacks will makeup a clear majority of the Democrat primary electorate in South Carolina. They have grown proportionally as a slice of the Democrat electorate over the past 20 years. Their voice is outsized, especially if the white Democrats don’t coalesce around an alternate. And enough white Democrats like Kamala to make that simply impossible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:06 PM (Zn6QU)

That observation is the heart of the Democrats mathematical problem. As you say, they’ve grown proportionately as a slice of the Democrats electorate. But they’ve declined as a slice of the general electorate. Which means the Democrat base is becoming more radical, and more overtly racist.

Oh wait I forget that it’s against the rules to say that any black person can be racist.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 01:13 PM (aGp5K)

282 Koalamala is in the same business as Bernie now. Running for Precedent every 4 years and getting paid to go away.

Good work if you can get it.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (DfK6m)

283 No puns about ball washers?

Posted by: Kamala! 2028! 2032! at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (0sNs1)
-

You know who else had a ball washer?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (V6d0j)

284 Oh, and they're learning that Canadians aren't anywhere near as friendly as they were TOLD they are.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (vf0Uk)

285 >Don't go there, it's a trap.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

You call THAT a trap?

https://tinyurl.com/2zrtdsbf

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (ycI94)

286 I wonder if Newsome uses Fop or Dapper Dan.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (77rzZ)

287
Oh wait I forget that it’s against the rules to say that any black person can be racist.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 01:13 PM (aGp5K)


You've done it.

They can stab you in the chest now.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (vf0Uk)

288 266 If I'm Kamala Harris, I'm grifting as much money as possible on the promise I might run again. Then I'm taking a payoff not to run. Like Bernie, except drinkier.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 01:11 PM (gKWVE)


It may be 12 months or more before the supposed 'top-contenders' begin formally declaring their 2028 candidacy.

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (5rh/l)

289 This is becoming a wedge issue among the horde.
Posted by: Chipping away at our camaraderie at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (TbWk/)

There's irons in his words.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (GP8V/)

290 This is becoming a wedge issue among the horde"

By degrees

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (cGjQu)

291 Social Security is fine. Just cut out the fucking corruption and there's plenty. No need to pay for Medicare from it even.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (fgSb9)

292 BIG BRYLCREEM is ripping us off.
Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (DfK6m)

I'm a Dapper Dan man.

Posted by: Gavin Newsom at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM (pBJ6M)

293 Oh no... Tucker Carlson is leaving the Republican party.. Says it's "immoral." or something...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 01:04 PM (afi9t)
*********
He is so freakin' annoying. Why doesn't he just join the "moral" Democrat party.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (NpAcC)

294 I hope the golf puns have run their course.
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Really clubbing this horse to death

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (22ggK)

295 274 How many times did we hear - and from how many places - that 107 days just wasn't enough time for us to learn about the majesty and perfection that would be a Harris Administration...
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (rii+a)
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Every time you saw her book in the book store!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (Zn6QU)

296
271 What is remotely appealing to James Talarico to black women who usually vote for Democrats?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 01:12 PM (7RYym)

AH HATES TRUMP!!!

I’m serious, that’s all there is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (aGp5K)

297 Gentle reminder to Tucker and Candace that the Islamists who hijack the kosher place today, will be hijacking the normie Tescos tomorrow for selling pork.
"Today Saturday, tomorrow Sunday."

Posted by: Christians and Moslems are not allies at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (gKWVE)

298 I hope the golf puns have run their course."

They've stopped short of the hole.
Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:10 PM (cGjQu)
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Bye, Bye Birdie

Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)

299 294 I hope the golf puns have run their course.
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Really clubbing this horse to death

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (22ggK)

The golf puns are getting rough!

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2026 01:16 PM (5rh/l)

300 ,

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:16 PM (V6d0j)

301 You call THAT a trap?

https://tinyurl.com/2zrtdsbf
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 22, 2026 01:14 PM

Cheeky!

This could, however, undermine the reputation you've worked so hard to maintain and enhance ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 01:16 PM (0sNs1)

302 281 That observation is the heart of the Democrats mathematical problem. As you say, they’ve grown proportionately as a slice of the Democrats electorate. But they’ve declined as a slice of the general electorate. Which means the Democrat base is becoming more radical, and more overtly racist.

Oh wait I forget that it’s against the rules to say that any black person can be racist.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 01:13 PM (aGp5K)

=========

And black Democrats will not let anyone forget that while other groups (like Hispanics) may face historical ills, it is the black man and woman (especially the women) who are the most oppressed on earth. So, Hispanics? You are back of the bus in the Democrat coalition because the black women’s concerns must be first.

And they don’t even try to lie about it. To cover it up. It’s overt.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:17 PM (Zn6QU)

303 I'm all right
Nobody worry 'bout me"

Nixon plays golf...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 01:17 PM (cGjQu)

304 The golf puns are getting rough!
Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2026 01:16 PM (5rh/l)

But they're fair in a way.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 01:17 PM (GP8V/)

305 Nixon also lost (or "lost") an election, came back eight years later and won (twice).

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (gKWVE)

306 I’m beginning to believe it’ll actually be AOC for the Dems in 28. She’s in perfect lockstep with their base…. And she will fail hard. It’ll be glorious

Especially if she takes her shirt off in a Hail Mary.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (Riz8t)

307 Even I can understand this simple grift they've been running, but of course the headlines are all about Trump "targeting" the Newsomes and the Newsomes "firing back" at attacks.

Posted by: LASue at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (1MCHl)

308 "The market is small and populated by people who simply choose to ignore information they don't like."

Thank goodness that doesn't happen around here.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (Jr5Lq)

309 Biden probably opened the case to COVER IT UP.

He could keep it open, "no comment" on open cases rule, then it goes away when Newsome wins.

But Biden lost.

Posted by: Harun at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (IuIym)

310 They can convince black people that a black is a white supremacist and a white former KKK member is down with the struggle. Tribalism is one thing, leftardism something else entirely.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (22ggK)

311 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (aGp5K

I'm guessing that quite a few black women Democrats in TX are Christian. His egregiously bad views on Scripture ,Christian faith And transgenderism will be overridden by " I hate Trump"?


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 01:19 PM (ZeH0U)

312 I’m beginning to believe it’ll actually be AOC for the Dems in 28. She’s in perfect lockstep with their base…. And she will fail hard. It’ll be glorious

Especially if she takes her shirt off in a Hail Mary.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (Riz8t)


Pfffffttt.

Everybody knows that's not what it's called. It's called a Pick Six.
- Tim Walz

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 22, 2026 01:19 PM (rii+a)

313 So there's no way that when the investigation began under the Biden administration, Mrs. Emhoff & associates had blown that whistle, right?

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 01:19 PM (NFX2v)

314 I hope the golf puns have run their course.
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Really clubbing this horse to death

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (22ggK)

The golf puns are getting rough!
Posted by: Gref

We're just puttering around.

Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2026 01:19 PM (lJ0H4)

315 278 I’m beginning to believe it’ll actually be AOC for the Dems in 28. She’s in perfect lockstep with their base…. And she will fail hard. It’ll be glorious
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

I can't wait for the first heckler at a major speech who yells "Show us your tits!" Odds it's Alex Stein?

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 22, 2026 01:20 PM (ycI94)

316 No puns about ball washers?

Posted by: Kamala! 2028! 2032!
________

Wait up, girls!

Posted by: Carl Spackler at June 22, 2026 01:20 PM (XvL8K)

317 I’m beginning to believe it’ll actually be AOC for the Dems in 28. She’s in perfect lockstep with their base…. And she will fail hard. It’ll be glorious

Especially if she takes her shirt off in a Hail Mary.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (Riz8t)

Ah, the Julie Andrews gambit. Has potential.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 01:20 PM (wVcYX)

318 310 They can convince black people that a black is a white supremacist and a white former KKK member is down with the struggle. Tribalism is one thing, leftardism something else entirely.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (22ggK)
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The tribe for partisans is the political party. Black Democrats are constantly at war with themselves about which is prime. Intra-party, it’s race. Inter-party, it’s party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:20 PM (Zn6QU)

319 Newsom and his beard should make a movie called Ken and Barbie at the Kremlin.

So obviously corrupt. Should change Sacramento to Sacradishu.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 01:20 PM (DfK6m)

320 I would say our pun ability has really come to the fore.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:20 PM (22ggK)

321 263 Got a mason working up a quote for repairs to this 130-year old dump. When he delivers it, and I read it, I shall certainly die on the spot of a heart attack.
Posted by: gp

Herself wanted 3 sets of blinds installed last month; we were quoted over $4,500. With the "senior discount".

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 01:21 PM (Y8DZL)

322 "The market is small and populated by people who simply choose to ignore information they don't like."

Thank goodness that doesn't happen around here.
Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM

We're right here, you know.

Posted by: Ginger, 9mm, catapult, crossbow, & bean-in-chili fans at June 22, 2026 01:21 PM (0sNs1)

323 317 I’m beginning to believe it’ll actually be AOC for the Dems in 28. She’s in perfect lockstep with their base…. And she will fail hard. It’ll be glorious

Especially if she takes her shirt off in a Hail Mary.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:18 PM (Riz8t)

=======

If Kamala doesn’t run, she’d be my assumed winner.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 01:21 PM (Zn6QU)

324 >>>Cheeky!

This could, however, undermine the reputation you've worked so hard to maintain and enhance ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax

>I'd be willing to take a stroke if I could shank that.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 01:22 PM (fkjGs)

325 He is so freakin' annoying. Why doesn't he just join the "moral" Democrat party.
Posted by: redridinghood

They wouldn't take him. They actually hold people accountable for violating their insane edicts.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 22, 2026 01:22 PM (ycI94)

326 I hope the golf puns have run their course.
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Really clubbing this horse to death

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:15 PM (22ggK)

The golf puns are getting rough!
Posted by: Gref

We're just puttering around.
Posted by: Tuna at June 22, 2026 01:19 PM (lJ0H4)

So let's dance!
https://youtu.be/mX4R56zdNVA

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 22, 2026 01:22 PM (wVcYX)

327 I would say our pun ability has really come to the fore.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 01:20 PM (22ggK)
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Tee hee!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:22 PM (V6d0j)

328 Shapiro means business. That may be Vice Presidential business, but he'll be in the next progressive administration.

Bet on it.

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 01:22 PM (NFX2v)

329 "Herself wanted 3 sets of blinds installed last month; we were quoted over $4,500."

Cripes. Last home improvement quote I got was for a new front door. I asked for the cheapest one. $3000.

Posted by: gp at June 22, 2026 01:22 PM (Jr5Lq)

330 ...But black on the ticket in 28 is a given.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 01:02 PM (Y8DZL)


Black Democratium is one of the most powerful elements on earth.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2026 01:23 PM (T+CvP)

331 This investigation was started under Biden's DOJ. So I suspect the intramural knives were out for Newscum and his vile wife even then. Somebody powerful on the Democrap side of the fence wanted this cocksucker shivved then, and they still do.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 22, 2026 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

332 Going to have to scramble to come up with more puns.

Posted by: polynikes ten bears at June 22, 2026 01:23 PM (GP8V/)

333 Shapiro means business. That may be Vice Presidential business, but he'll be in the next progressive administration.

Bet on it.

The CW is now that he can't be on the ticket because Jooooo. I'm not sure that's correct.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 01:23 PM (Riz8t)

334 332.

Try the a la carte menu.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 01:23 PM (DfK6m)

335 Shapiro means business. That may be Vice Presidential business, but he'll be in the next progressive administration.

Bet on it.

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 01:22 PM (NFX2v)
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No. Jew. remember?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:24 PM (V6d0j)

336 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 01:24 PM (vf0Uk)

337 I'm guessing that quite a few black women Democrats in TX are Christian. His egregiously bad views on Scripture ,Christian faith And transgenderism will be overridden by " I hate Trump"?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 01:19 PM (ZeH0U)

They would never vote for Paxton, but they will just stay home and not vote. This has been happening for at least 30 years in Texas now; no black face on the ballot, not many black voters show up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 01:26 PM (aGp5K)

338 No Democrat was prosecuted?
Okay...........(wrong)

Posted by: Bob Menendez at June 22, 2026 01:27 PM (nvKZ7)

339 (((IsraelMatzav))) @IsraelMatzav
43s

*Montreal Shooting:* Initial reports indicate numerous terrorists and a hostage situation in a kosher supermarket near the scene.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (V6d0j)

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FLQ getting feisty again or plain old Islamic joo hate.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 01:28 PM (mWKAz)

340 There always seems to be paths for the long-run, they just need to be found.

The Black immigrant population more than doubled from 2.4 million in 2000 to 5.6 million. Today, one-in-four Black Americans are either immigrants or the children of immigrants.

Historically, the Black foreign-born population was predominantly from the Caribbean. Today, African-born immigrants are the fastest-growing group. Between 2000 and 2024, the number of African-born Black immigrants quadrupled, and they now make up 44% of all Black immigrants in the U.S.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 01:30 PM (NFX2v)

341 Alan Greenspan, age 100, has died from complications of Parkinson's Disease.

Served as the 13th Chairman if the Federal Reserve.

Andrea Mitchell's husband.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 01:32 PM (NFX2v)

MORNING RANT: The Iran Situation and Trump’s MOU – What Constitutes “Finishing the Job” After the Lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan?

Trump and Map of Iran.png

I’m being told that Donald Trump has failed. Instead of bringing about eternal harmony in a region that has never known peace, the president has simply killed off Iran’s senior leadership, obliterated its military, weakened its proxy networks, and destroyed its nuclear capability. In addition, this conflict has finally compelled the Gulf States to start building oil pipelines to the Mediterranean and Red Seas, ensuring that the Strait of Hormuz will not be a chokepoint for global oil flow in the not-distant future.

Unfortunately, and despite our military success, Iran still doesn’t have a secular, pro-western government releasing doves while crooning “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.” Neither do Iraq or Afghanistan, for which a tragic amount of American blood was spilled in pursuit of unattainable, western-style democracies. All those regimes deserved to be toppled, but none of them are worth spilling American blood to rebuild.

While it’s a shame that the people of Iran did not rise up and reclaim their country from the Islamists holding levers of power, the U.S. has done enough for now, and if we need to come back and do some more bombing, that remains on the table. But occupation cannot be an option we’re considering. This is a consistent opinion of mine, and I believe it is consistent with much of the MAGA right.

A year ago, right after the bombing of Iran’s nuclear facilities but well before this latest round of strikes, I wrote a piece titled “President Trump’s Use of Military Power - If We Have to Break It, We Aren't Going to Buy It.” In it I rejected the notion that the only two options regarding the use of military power are either pacifism or boots-on-the-ground nation-building, writing, ”There is another much better option, which President Trump just demonstrated – the use of our military to destroy what needs destroying, and then leaving the mess as a lesson. If Iran attempts to rebuild its nuclear program in coming years, we can bust it all up again. We don’t have to occupy Iran or pretend that it will become a western democracy. It can figure out whatever it wants to become, but if Iran restarts its nuclear program or exports terror again, it can also face our wrath again.”

The full text of that piece is below the fold. I stand by it, and it seems to be the avenue President Trump is pursuing.

But first, here are a few other thoughts I have regarding the domestic U.S. political battles involving Iran and Israel.

• What does “Finish the job” even mean? It if means a resumption of the Crusades and re-Christianizing the Middle East, then I’m all ears. But if it means spilling American blood in the futile pursuit of a friendly “Islamic democracy,” we cannot go down that road ever again.

• After the first Gulf War in the early 1990s, President Bush (41) was criticized for not finishing the job. In the ‘00s, President Bush (43) did attempt to finish the job. We’ve been down this road before in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It went poorly.

• Perhaps I’m projecting myself onto others, but I believe that a solid majority of Trump/MAGA voters are both America-first and solidly pro-Israel. Sacrifices such as higher gas prices and some inflation are a price we’re willing to pay for a while in support of our civilizational ally, but not in perpetuity. American voters elected Trump overwhelmingly for domestic concerns, not to fix what is unfixable in the Middle East.

• The online debate regarding the Iran situation seems to be argued most loudly by Israel-haters and Israel-firsters, but I want to believe both of those camps are at the two ends of a bell curve. I passionately dislike the anti-Israel crowd because they seem to be in service to Islamists, with whom we (western civilization) are engaged in a war that has been going on for 1,400 years. But I’d also like to warn the Israel-firsters that their screeching denunciations of Trump and his voters for not prioritizing Israel above all other concerns is actually deleterious to their cause. If you keep accusing people of “not supporting Israel” if they object to a military invasion of Iran and $200 per barrel oil, they may start to accept the terms of your phrasing.

Below is the text of that June 2025 piece titled “President Trump’s Use of Military Power - If We Have to Break It, We Aren't Going to Buy It”:

Our political class has repeatedly told us that the only allowable “solutions” to pressing problems are alternatives not embraced by the majority of Americans. That is why we finally turned to Donald Trump. Just one example was the border crisis – Democrats argued for mass amnesty and a wide-open border, while establishment Republicans countered by also proposing mass amnesty with a slightly less porous border. Trump laughed in all their faces, shut the border, and started deporting criminal aliens.

In the matter of foreign military engagement, we have also been presented just two bad options over the past few decades.

1) Massive military commitment to foreign wars, including nation building and boots on the ground in perpetuity, all with an endless airlift of fallen troops being flown home to Dover AFB.

2) Pacifism, with the U.S. never unleashing its military might, even where it is appropriate.

There is another much better option, which President Trump just demonstrated – the use of our military to destroy what needs destroying, and then leaving the mess as a lesson. If Iran attempts to rebuild its nuclear program in coming years, we can bust it all up again. We don’t have to occupy Iran or pretend that it will become a western democracy. It can figure out whatever it wants to become, but if Iran restarts its nuclear program or exports terror again, it can also face our wrath again.

I have been waiting for the U.S. to strike against Iran for more than 45 years. The lost wars of the Bush-Cheney era have driven home the futility of trying to impose democracy on those not capable of it. But still, I’ve never stopped wanting there to be righteous retribution against Iran’s mad mullahs. They attacked America on American territory when they took our embassy personnel hostage in 1979, and they’ve been killing Americans wherever they can ever since.

One of the dubious lessons learned from World War II was that we must always rebuild what we destroy in war. In that spirit, Colin Powell famously told President George W. Bush regarding the Iraq War debacle, “If you break it, you own it.” Donald Trump has put that idea to rest.

We broke it (Iran’s nuclear program) and Israel has destroyed Iran’s war fighting capabilities. And now we’re done fighting. What Iran does now is not our problem, unless/until we have to break it again sometime in the future.

With all that said, there are plenty of reasons why the mainstream American right has become so anti-war in recent years. The awful loss of young Americans’ lives in service to other countries interests - but not America’s interests – is paramount. But it is also the realization that the war-pushers have a deep reserve of ashamed-to-be-American guilt that motivates them. There is an inherent contradiction in how they go about waging war. Quite simply, they rush into foreign wars, but then refuse to fight for victory, because they believe:

1) The United State has a moral obligation to fight other countries’ wars because of our power, wealth, etc.

2) It is culturally offensive for the United States to inflict what is necessary to actually win a foreign war.

Donald Trump’s America-First position is rejected by this same war-loving crowd whose loyalty is to the “international community” that wants Americans to fight and to die, but not to win.

A repellant aspect of the “we broke it, we bought it” mindset is the belief that all wars require a Marshall Plan to rebuild the infrastructure and economies of lands where we battled. Perhaps Western Europe would not have rebuilt so quickly without all the American aid post-WWII, but maybe they wouldn’t now be failing welfare states either. We taught them that Uncle Sam will pay to (re)build their countries and provide their defense, thus allowing cradle-to-grave welfare, all while their politicians and populace screech about how awful the United States is. By contrast, Eastern Europeans who suffered under communism received nothing from America, but they are vocally pro-America now because they simply crave freedom, and they learned how awful the alternative was.

By rejecting “we broke it, we bought it,” President Trump is also rejecting any more 21st century occupations and Marshall Plans. That doesn’t mean the enemies of civilization will not incur the fearsome wrath of our military if they try to cause problems outside their borders. But under President Trump, if we have to break it, we’re just going to leave it.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

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Posted by: Cosda at June 22, 2026 11:00 AM (ibZ/e)

2 Bounce the rubble

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 11:02 AM (Kt19C)

3 Hi there

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 11:03 AM (T6aVk)

4 Read the entire piece. Thumbs up, Buck.

Thanks.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 11:03 AM (NFX2v)

5 >>>What Constitutes “Finishing the Job”

We must all join in hands and sing Kumbaya over a nuclear fire in Tehran or Trump is a doodyhead. And we all get a pony.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:04 AM (dK+Kv)

6 I can't think of ANYONE who is in favor of boots on the ground in Iran. That is a long way from saying we shouldn't have done what we did.

Most of the noise about Iran is just the left trying to set it up as a failure.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

7 if we have to break it, we’re just going to leave it.

I can accept that. I would have liked Iraq and Afghanistan to be a final resting place for bombs that had "Best if used by" stamped on it and we tell them to never get our attention again.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 11:05 AM (RjOoY)

8 Reluctantly its lunch time

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 11:05 AM (sgkY8)

9 5 >>>What Constitutes “Finishing the Job”

We must all join in hands and sing Kumbaya over a nuclear fire in Tehran or Trump is a doodyhead. And we all get a pony.


What about Coke? Do we all get a Coke?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

10 The first step is to have the wisdom to know that we don't know jack, about what's really going on, or how best to handle it.

Lack of humility has led us to some pretty messed up things in my lifetime. And well before.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 22, 2026 11:05 AM (OUMaO)

11 Eesh, an Iran thread. I’m out. Please, Y’all, don’t start throwing the crockery at each other.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 11:06 AM (77rzZ)

12 Iran? Nobody is talking about Iran.

U.S. Rep Debbie Dingell claims algae in the Washington, DC reflecting pool is all that her constituents were talking about over the weekend in Michigan.

"Algae, that's all anybody talked at home this weekend. They were outraged."

I'll take things that never happened for $500.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:07 AM (ndZc7)

13 Don't blame the Turtle Wax. Blame the Turd.

Some very bad people that needed to be killed were killed.

The Middle East won't improve much until the islamic reformation.

And that will happen approximately the day after I get my handjo from Scarlett Johansson.

Trump still has my support for what that's worth.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 11:07 AM (nptZK)

14 The Reluctant Lunch - a new novel by Thomas Pynchon.

Posted by: Pendant Publishing Presents at June 22, 2026 11:07 AM (pBJ6M)

15 My only problem is we stopped our targeted attacks too soon (only 39 days) which allowed the IG to regroup and kill thousands of the opposition and for them to claim victory and delay and dilute any MOU.

I contemplated this while staying at a Holiday Inn.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:08 AM (GP8V/)

16 What about Coke? Do we all get a Coke?
Posted by: Archimedes

Last I head, Coke is haram because they do business with Israel.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 11:09 AM (RjOoY)

17 My reading of leftwing forums has found the most common view is disappointment that Trump isn't going to pull a Shrub and send 200K American troops to occupy and police it.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:10 AM (sKqQm)

18 What about Coke? Do we all get a Coke?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

Have a Coke and a smile . . . .

Posted by: Richard Pryor at June 22, 2026 11:10 AM (dK+Kv)

19 And we all get a pony.

You want a pony.
You'll settle for a bicycle.
You'll get a mule dick tied in a knot.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 11:10 AM (Kt19C)

20 The country of iran as they are now needs to be ended. I have no idea how to make that happen short of complete and total war against them and that is simply not going to happen.


I was over there in 87-88 during the tanker wars escorting reflagged kuwati oil tankers through the gulf because iran was throwing a temper tantrum and closed the straits. They have been doing that off and on for almost 50 years and it has to stop or the gulf oil countries need to get their $hit together and build some pipelines to remove the threat of potentially constant closing of the straits by iran.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2026 11:11 AM (0N4FZ)

21 Time out for the IAEA? and GOPe to do BDA.

Posted by: DaveA at June 22, 2026 11:11 AM (FhXTo)

22 Count me in the camp of I'd rather just send a few bombs in when and as needed and call it a day. If we have to send more in next month - do so.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:12 AM (qCV5n)

23 the gulf oil countries need to get their $hit together and build some pipelines to remove the threat of potentially constant closing of the straits by iran.

I think that's already happening. They've had enough of Iran's nonsense.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:12 AM (Riz8t)

24 Trump wasn't going to put boots on the ground. He was hoping for regime change but just got more of the same and I don't believe he fully factored in the Straight gambit by Iran which worked.

He set their military and nuclear program back significantly and called it a day. He wants gas prices down and win the mid terms.

Posted by: WisRich at June 22, 2026 11:12 AM (G0vdT)

25 "We will give you $300 billion to build up your industry and infrastructure if you just act like a normal country."
-the Gulf States, primed to invest

"Yes, please."
-Iranian civil government

"LEEEROY JENKINSSSSSS!"
-IRGC retards with a Twitter account

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:12 AM (Zn6QU)

26 Count me in the camp of I'd rather just send a few bombs in when and as needed and call it a day. If we have to send more in next month - do so.

Agree. If a country the size of Ukraine can hit Moscow, we can hit Tehran, or anywhere else of our choosing.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:13 AM (Riz8t)

27 Thx Buck.
First of all , Western political leaders have to recognize that Islam sucks. Everything about it is regressive. When dealing with Islam countries and regions, all choices are bad. Find the least bad path. Whatever is happening in Iran is not over either from our point of view or the Iranians. We don't have troops on the ground (maybe special forces), so thus far Trump chas chosen wisely.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 11:13 AM (Iurxt)

28 IMO there is no comparison of Iraq /Afghanistan and Iran operations.

Different reasons, goals and logistics.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:13 AM (GP8V/)

29 And, no we don't have to fix it if we break it. We can just keep breaking things.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:13 AM (qCV5n)

30 Remember, it was the Likud Party who, eyes wide shut, had no security on the Gaza border. A lot of Israelis think Likud has outlived its usefulness and needs to go. Tough to do while there’s a war on.

Unnecessary satire: All the Israelis who don’t vote Likud; yeah, they hate Jews.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 22, 2026 11:14 AM (UFHYa)

31 24 Trump wasn't going to put boots on the ground. He was hoping for regime change but just got more of the same and I don't believe he fully factored in the Straight gambit by Iran which worked.

He set their military and nuclear program back significantly and called it a day. He wants gas prices down and win the mid terms.

Posted by: WisRich at June 22, 2026 11:12 AM (G0vdT)

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The funny thing is that almost nothing has actually changed since the signing of the MOU in terms of practicals.

Iran is selling some oil they loaded up 3 months ago, and they have some grain shipments coming from Brazil.

But...it's going to take weeks for any of that to actually materialize (money from the oil sales and the actual grain showing up at Bandar Abbas).

All of their funds are still frozen. The $300 billion investment fund is still just an idea.

And gas prices were falling before the MOU.

I don't think the MOU has anything to do with the midterms, actually.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:14 AM (Zn6QU)

32 Israel is probably not history's greatest monster but nor are they the foremost singular force for good in the world.

Should they exist as a safe haven for Jews given the events of the 20th century? Yes. Would they if the world - particularly the Left and their pals Militant Islam - had its way? Absolutely not.

What is our role, and the role of civilized countries in that?

One thing the 21st Century has taught us is "Never Again" and "Never Forget" are in the end just neat slogans. A hard lesson that can only be learned, not taught.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 11:14 AM (22ggK)

33 Modern geo-politics are amusing in a lot of ways

We had a debate as to whether Iran could be completely defeated via airpower but honestly Trump didn't try and the reason is fascinating and horrifying.

We could level bomb or even use drone strikes on the neighborhoods Iran's elites live in. Yes plenty of them are true believers that don't mind martyrdom but...nowhere near all of them.

But even "right wing genocidal maniac" Trump won't go anywhere near that because...its mean or something.

You can kill thousands of soldiers but the world damns you for targeting enemy leaders. Yes "the world" in this context are people that would kill Trump given a chance and well, us too, but for some reason the right also listens to these people.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:15 AM (sKqQm)

34 Seems to me that making a bunch of mullahs comfortable and confident enough to come out in public would be beneficial to our military.

Might be some benefit long term to a deal drawing the bigger roaches out of their hidey-holes.

Maybe get them to visit Davos or Martha's Squishmitten.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 11:15 AM (nptZK)

35 My primary objection to Trump’s approach is that he’s tried negotiating at all. I believe we could’ve used exactly the same playbook except never even attempt negotiations. Just bomb the crap out of them and then sit back and play whack a mole and blockade the strait indefinitely. No boots on the ground ever… minimal risk to service personnel

Whether it’s fair or not, trying to negotiate with these maniacs only projects weakness especially when you negotiate publicly and make so many threats with no follow through they become empty and kind of a joke. Whatever happened to the old rule: never negotiate with terrorists

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 11:15 AM (m6Mib)

36 We must resist the urge to put boots on the ground unless we want to seize their territory and treasure. The oppression will bring about a breaking point not withstanding.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 11:16 AM (fkjGs)

37
Who is going to fix Iran's water problem, and along with it their agriculture issues?

Who is going to sell them refined fuels? They pump crude but nothing beyond.

Who is going to be their ally? Russia and China are collapsing. Sunnis hate Shia.

But Trump's a blustering blowhard.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 11:16 AM (Y8DZL)

38 I don't think the MOU has anything to do with the midterms, actually.

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Gas prices and inflation will have far more impact on the mid-terms than an uncertain outcome in Iran. Trump can sell Iran as a victory to people who want it to be a victory. His opponents (Dems and GOPe) will sell it as defeat. If gas goes down, people won't care.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:16 AM (qCV5n)

39
Breaking things is easier. And more fun.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 11:16 AM (O0L8i)

40 Is any government monolithic?

Is Belgium's? Is China's? Is ours?

Is your local HOA?

Why would Iran's be?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:17 AM (Zn6QU)

41 Gas prices and inflation will have far more impact on the mid-terms than an uncertain outcome in Iran. Trump can sell Iran as a victory to people who want it to be a victory. His opponents (Dems and GOPe) will sell it as defeat. If gas goes down, people won't care.

Concur.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

42 The purpose and outcome of military action should be the cessation of it, not the prospect of it continuing on endlessly.

THAT is the very definition of "endless wars."

"Oh, well, we tried" is not a worthy war strategy and is not a satisfactory outcome.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 11:17 AM (mWKAz)

43 38 I don't think the MOU has anything to do with the midterms, actually.

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Gas prices and inflation will have far more impact on the mid-terms than an uncertain outcome in Iran. Trump can sell Iran as a victory to people who want it to be a victory. His opponents (Dems and GOPe) will sell it as defeat. If gas goes down, people won't care.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:16 AM (qCV5n)

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Gas prices never have major impacts on elections, actually. Like, ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:17 AM (Zn6QU)

44 It's a MOU point. It's like a cow's opinion. It's MOU.

Posted by: Joey Tribbiani, super-genius at June 22, 2026 11:18 AM (pBJ6M)

45 The Afghan mess was sort of what is described above for a preferred outcome with Iran, at least for a few weeks. However, the punitive action was then turned into 20 years of death and destruction, waste fraud and abuse, and oh yeah, heroin production. Be careful who has their hands on the levers of power and influence. Even those you think are on the side of good may fall under the sway of those who are not.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 22, 2026 11:18 AM (QaH55)

46 Trump can sell Iran as a victory to people who want it to be a victory. His opponents (Dems and GOPe) will sell it as defeat. If gas goes down, people won't care.

Yep.

After defeating Saddam in Kuwait in the most lopsided battle in human memory Bush 41 lost re-election in '92 over a minor recession and tax increases.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:18 AM (sKqQm)

47 37
Who is going to fix Iran's water problem, and along with it their agriculture issues?

Who is going to sell them refined fuels? They pump crude but nothing beyond.

Who is going to be their ally? Russia and China are collapsing. Sunnis hate Shia.

But Trump's a blustering blowhard.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 11:16 AM (Y8DZL)

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Oh, and Trump destroyed their manufacturing base which they took decades to build.

And our manufacturing base wasn't touched.

Which means that Iran can rearm instantly and we can't rearm at all, I believe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:18 AM (Zn6QU)

48 Bush 41 lost re-election in '92 over a minor recession and tax increases

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And jazz. Don't forget jazz.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:19 AM (qCV5n)

49 >>My reading of leftwing forums has found the most common view is disappointment that Trump isn't going to pull a Shrub and send 200K American troops to occupy and police it.

Anyone who has been following and listening to Trump for the last decade plus, and that doesn't include leftists, has known how Trump plans to use power and it never included full scale invasions unless we were in a break glass situation.

Trump is all about using power, hard and soft, to produce outcomes that help the American people and when possible spare human life. Unlike most previous presidents that have little relevant private sector experience, Trump has been using soft power his entire life to achieve his goals so military power to him is a 2nd choice not a first and he doesn't rely on the same old DC gang to tell him the only solution is all out war.

People who refuse to see his actions through his lens and still rely on old models assume is flailing because he isn't doing what the old playbook said. Whether you like Trump or not if you don't understand what he is trying to accomplish and equally important how he is trying to accomplish it you will always think he is failing. And he isn't.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:19 AM (viF8m)

50 Which means that Iran can rearm instantly and we can't rearm at all, I believe.

For some reason, I don't think you really believe that.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (Riz8t)

51 What is our role, and the role of civilized countries in that?

One thing the 21st Century has taught us is "Never Again" and "Never Forget" are in the end just neat slogans. A hard lesson that can only be learned, not taught.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 11:14 AM (22ggK)

From my perspective, arming them for self-defense with weapons and intel. It is a mistake, from my perspective, to let the MOU hinge on Lebanon clusterfuckery, but that is clearly what Iran wants, in its continued belligerence with Israel.

That may be the best we can hope for, for now, while we retain all military options in the region, when (not if) Iran gets out of hand again, re: IAEA inspections, Hormuz shenanigans, etc.

It's not going to be a silver bullet. I suspect it will be a slower normalization of relations with both carrot and stick used as tools to bring around the regime by appealing to self-interest.

Posted by: Richard Pryor at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (dK+Kv)

52 "Boots on the ground" is a false specter being used to scare the normies.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (mWKAz)

53 50 Which means that Iran can rearm instantly and we can't rearm at all, I believe.

For some reason, I don't think you really believe that.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (Riz8t)

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IRAN IS GOING TO SEND A FLEET OF DRONES ACROSS THE WORLD AND DESTROY THE WHITE HOUSE!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (Zn6QU)

54 My $.02 - this is the neighborhood bully issue. You knock him on his ass, then offer a hand up. Either way, you then continue on your way.
He now knows he can't do s*it, and more importantly, those in his corner (China) now know that.

Will he reform? Dunno. Will he go back to his buds and boast of his prowess? Don't care. Will that stop him from being an ass? Probably not.
There is no final solution. Killing 93 million people there would solve exactly jack.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (cGjQu)

55 My measure of whether it is worth it to put grunts on the ground are a few basic checkboxes first:

1) Have we tried level bombing their cities?

2) Have we tried destroying their infrastructure?

3) Have we tried killing their leaders?

If the answer to any of these is no, then you don't care enough to risk the lives of our soldiers so no, no grunts on the ground.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (sKqQm)

56 Problem for the GOP is that any and I mean any fluctuation in the economy will be framed and gaslighted as the worse thing ever by the MSM. We still have the LIV out there who will fall victim to this. Not as bad as it once was but still bad.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (GP8V/)

57 Which means that Iran can rearm instantly and we can't rearm at all, I believe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:18 AM (Zn6QU)

What an asshole.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:21 AM (dK+Kv)

58
Problem for the GOP is....

___________

The GOP

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 11:21 AM (O0L8i)

59 56 Problem for the GOP is that any and I mean any fluctuation in the economy will be framed and gaslighted as the worse thing ever by the MSM. We still have the LIV out there who will fall victim to this. Not as bad as it once was but still bad.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (GP8V/)

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In the middle of covid, six states had to shut down ballot counting in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall to barely beat Trump in the electoral college.

The media's ability to spin things is...diminished. This ain't the 90s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:21 AM (Zn6QU)

60 So hard (or impossible) to get clean info on Iran. Some reports say the good people ("Persian majority"?) have taken back whole cities, others say IRGC is in confusion and conflict, others say we are getting arms to the good people (and maybe they'd be willing to fight?)
. idk

Same with Ukraine ... are they actually almost winning now? Reports say Russia dumps their draftees into zones with no real support or mission, and drones bring in erratic supplies, and some of them are killing each other. Parts of Europe seem more interested than before in backing Ukraine ... I still prefer Ukraine "WIN", but can't get a good grip on the intel.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2026 11:21 AM (vbXSk)

61 Bounce the rubble

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 11:02 AM (Kt19C)
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Bounce the rubble > rocking the kasbah

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 11:22 AM (V6d0j)

62 The media's ability to spin things is...diminished. This ain't the 90s.

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Trump will tout this as the greatest economy of all time ... in history. It will be fun to listen to. The GOP never had someone so bold.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:22 AM (qCV5n)

63 This not a US / Iran deal only. The negotiations are part of a larger Middle East realignment .

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 11:22 AM (afJtY)

64 Boots on the ground" is a false specter being used to scare the normies.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (mWKAz)

Agree. I think the problem most people had is the same as mine. We stopped the air campaign way too soon.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:22 AM (GP8V/)

65 There's 90 million people in that country. That's more than Great Britain. It's bigger than Alaska. It's got lots of black gold, Texas tea. In the late 70s it was an educated advanced country with culture, technology, travel, infrastructure and commerce.

Get the Mohammedans out of the way and let a hundred thousand entrepreneural enterprises bloom.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (Ov6Yl)

66 Local military experts here tell us that this is the most "humiliating surrender" in US military history.

So, you know, we really should have just voted for Kamala ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (73/SM)

67 "Boots on the ground" is a false specter being used to scare the normies.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (mWKAz)

"Regime change" is a nebulous unspecified concept used to appeal to the same.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (dK+Kv)

68 AI and auto cucumber sucks balls.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (fkjGs)

69 11 Eesh, an Iran thread. I’m out. Please, Y’all, don’t start throwing the crockery at each other.
Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 11:06 AM (77rzZ)

Agreed.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (T6aVk)

70 Killing 93 million people there would solve exactly jack.
Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (cGjQu)

I'm not going to argue for that; it's not a realistic option at this juncture.

But it would definitely solve the problem, and it's silly to say it wouldn't... If Iran is no more, then Iran is not a problem.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (BI5O2)

71 One big issue is believing that the Iranians will react like rational western societies would; but there's every indication that they will openly and laughingly violate the MOU at every single point - because their goal is not to get an "agreement", but to humiliate and ridicule America in the most open possible way.

The leadership now is, if anything, even more radical than the leadership before.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (edUvp)

72 66 Local military experts here tell us that this is the most "humiliating surrender" in US military history.

So, you know, we really should have just voted for Kamala ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (73/SM)

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"As a student of history, all wars are WWII."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (Zn6QU)

73 Agree. I think the problem most people had is the same as mine. We stopped the air campaign way too soon./i]

Yes. You know the air campaign is done when your enemies are begging you to come to the table to negotiate.

Though I guess here the civilian leadership was, while the IRGC was not.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (sKqQm)

74 The negotiations are part of a larger Middle East realignment ."

Let us not forget what this has done to China...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (cGjQu)

75 This not a US / Iran deal only. The negotiations are part of a larger Middle East realignment .
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 11:22 AM (afJtY)

Personally I think it has a lot to do with China and the meeting Trump had with Xi.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (GP8V/)

76 It's not complicated at all, really: as long as it's still called "the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of Iran," the job ain't done yet.

Posted by: Mike Hendrix at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (fYChK)

77 Betty Rubble bouncing >Bounce the rubble > rocking the kasbah

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:24 AM (Riz8t)

78 The price of a venti double caramel half-caff latte goat piss pumpkin spice kale mocha at Starbucks is more influential on the crowd who decides whether America is every allowed to win a war than gas prices.

The average urban gay Fed in DC doesn't give two shits whether I can fill up my Tundra as long as it/wtf is that has what it needs.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 11:24 AM (rR5Mv)

79 Bounce the rubble

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 11:02 AM (Kt19C)
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Bounce the rubble > rocking the kasbah

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 11:22 AM (V6d0j)

Better than burning down the house?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:24 AM (dK+Kv)

80 >>I was over there in 87-88 during the tanker wars escorting reflagged kuwati oil tankers through the gulf

Oh, was that you?

/flying out of Masirah, Oman during Earnest Will, providing overwatch/ISR to the battle group escorting tankers in the PG.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 22, 2026 11:24 AM (J4Dwc)

81 Same with Ukraine ... are they actually almost winning now? Reports say Russia dumps their draftees into zones with no real support or mission, and drones bring in erratic supplies, and some of them are killing each other. Parts of Europe seem more interested than before in backing Ukraine ... I still prefer Ukraine "WIN", but can't get a good grip on the intel.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2026 11:21 AM (vbXSk)

No one wants to understand that in war I am the first to die.

Posted by: The Truth at June 22, 2026 11:24 AM (T6aVk)

82 71 One big issue is believing that the Iranians will react like rational western societies would; but there's every indication that they will openly and laughingly violate the MOU at every single point - because their goal is not to get an "agreement", but to humiliate and ridicule America in the most open possible way.

The leadership now is, if anything, even more radical than the leadership before.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (edUvp)

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There are obvious signs that the civilian government is splitting with the IRGC.

The civilian government seems to want to live and take in the Gulf State investment. The IRGC seems to want to ride around the Strait of Hormuz threatening Indian tankers while getting wiped out by US Apache helicopters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:24 AM (Zn6QU)

83 Breaking stuff is all well and fine up to a point. Maybe we have to break all of Iran/IRGC's shit. I've no idea. But I too reject having to go back in a year or whatever and pay to rebuild Iran's petro-infrastructure because we wrecked all of it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 11:24 AM (jehhT)

84 Gas prices here in Florida have already plummeted by close to a buck a gallon in just the last week… I doubt gas prices affect the midterms

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 11:25 AM (gZZCh)

85 But I too reject having to go back in a year or whatever and pay to rebuild Iran's petro-infrastructure because we wrecked all of it.

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If we rebuild it, we own it.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:25 AM (qCV5n)

86 84 Gas prices here in Florida have already plummeted by close to a buck a gallon in just the last week… I doubt gas prices affect the midterms

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 11:25 AM (gZZCh)

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I remember when Goode and Pretti getting themselves killed was going to lead to Democrat wins in the midterms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:25 AM (Zn6QU)

87 84 Gas prices here in Florida have already plummeted by close to a buck a gallon in just the last week…

saw this morning as i was driving in to work that gas prices are under $6/gal here. 'bout fainted from shock.

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 11:26 AM (sGtp+)

88 >>This not a US / Iran deal only. The negotiations are part of a larger Middle East realignment .

Agree 100%. And not just about Iran. Anyone who has traveled to the ME over the last few decades know that China has been making significant inroads in that region and to a lesser extent Russia. It's also about neutering their influence.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:26 AM (viF8m)

89
Whatever happened to the old rule: never negotiate with terrorists
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

We ALWAYS negotiate with terrorists.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2026 11:26 AM (Cqx++)

90 Maybe we have to break all of Iran/IRGC's shit. I've no idea. But I too reject having to go back in a year or whatever and pay to rebuild Iran's petro-infrastructure because we wrecked all of it."

Exactly so.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:26 AM (cGjQu)

91 85 But I too reject having to go back in a year or whatever and pay to rebuild Iran's petro-infrastructure because we wrecked all of it.

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If we rebuild it, we own it.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:25 AM (qCV5n)

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The idea is that the Gulf States will rebuild it (they'll fund the $300 billion, not us) and own it. Tying key infrastructure and industry to regional powers that are antagonistic to the Islamic Republic's terrorism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:26 AM (Zn6QU)

92 Concur.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

Pushing $4 a month ago. Down to $3.19 now at one station I frequent.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 11:27 AM (T6aVk)

93 MOU or ultimate agreement doesn't matter. Iran won't abide. My answer to the question is keep the pressure on economically peppering with occasional bombing and rebel arming until the islamic regime falls.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 11:27 AM (n5tGW)

94 Why is there some assumption that if we were to destroy the Iranian oil industry that we must or should rebuild it? That would seem to be a fruity European and heathen Chinaman problem, FWIW.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 11:27 AM (BI5O2)

95 I doubt gas prices affect the midterms

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I disagree because I think indirectly they reinforce the narrative. Trump will say we won the Iran deal, the Dems and GOPe will say we lost. Lower gas prices will be his proof we won. And his proof that the Dems and hawks are clueless. There is the side benefit of costing less, but I think it more just reinforces the narrative Trump is selling.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:27 AM (qCV5n)

96 Pushing $4 a month ago. Down to $3.19 now at one station I frequent.

So YOU'RE the guy siphoning gas out of my car!?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

97 If gas goes below $3 Trump and the Rep candidates will compared prices to what they were under the Biden Junta and the FNM will tell us the government has no impact on the price of gas.

Of course if it was >$4 the FNM would tell is it was Trump's fault.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:28 AM (sKqQm)

98 The Atlantic had a piece crowing how the war has been a failure. I also suspect they'll try to pin any perceived failures on JD's involvement as well when he runs for president. But any arguments on its failure pales in comparison to Ukraine, so...

Also, to wound Trump, they make damning comparisons to Obama's Iran deal that hurt Obama! Interesting.

Trump in Defeat
By Jonathan Lemire

"President trump lost. The war he waged against Iran promises to conclude in a humbling whimper with the signing of a cease-fire agreement later this week. The United States is left weaker—diminished militarily, strategically, economically, and perhaps morally...

The war has cost trump. It has rattled the nation’s economy. The Pentagon estimated that it had spent roughly $29 billion on the conflict by mid-May, but independent experts believe that it has spent tens of billions more. The U.S. military’s munitions supply has been depleted, putting at risk its ability to defend its interests in Asia and Europe. The United States’ failure, despite its overwhelming military might, to bring Iran to its knees could encourage China, Russia, or North Korea to take aggressive action."

Now do Ukraine...

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 11:28 AM (gWBY1)

99 Long drawn out war = Russia Winning. And it will go longer. And yes this is what I said would happen when the majority of the back and forth noise was guaranteeing quick wins for respective sides.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 11:28 AM (22ggK)

100 Granted I don't fill up often but I haven't paid over $4 since the war started in the Houston area. Maybe my timing is just good.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:28 AM (GP8V/)

101 68 AI and auto cucumber sucks balls.

in the end, isn't the real ai the friends we made along the way?

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 11:29 AM (sGtp+)

102 67 "Boots on the ground" is a false specter being used to scare the normies.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 11:20 AM (mWKAz)

"Regime change" is a nebulous unspecified concept used to appeal to the same.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (dK+Kv)

I agree with both statements; the thing is, opening the straits for traffic can be done without "regime change" or a full invasion. Hegseth submitted plans for this 2 months ago, but was never given approval. The strategic islands in the straits need to be taken (small garrisons, not difficult) and all port facilities and radar installations along the straits need to be eliminated, also not a difficult task.

A great mystery is the reason why, in our original series of attacks, we only eliminated a few major targets in the straits, but left so much else unscathed. Such as the surveillance facilities on Qeshm island, we hit a couple every now and then, but the island is still Iran's forward military base in the straits. And it's still fully operational.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:29 AM (edUvp)

103 Iran should be wiped off the face of the earth. No difference between them and the nazis, imperial japs or russian commies. But that would mean millions dead and billions in cost, so we get what we got today Which is a shit sandwhich.

Posted by: Take A Bite at June 22, 2026 11:29 AM (g7saB)

104 Gas prices affect other prices as well because goods have to be shipped to stores or delivered to your house

The left wants to use an inflation narrative against Trump so they'd love to have increased prices due to fuel costs

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:29 AM (sKqQm)

105 An absolutely outstanding post Buck. Thank you

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 22, 2026 11:29 AM (rRKh+)

106 97 If gas goes below $3 Trump and the Rep candidates will compared prices to what they were under the Biden Junta and the FNM will tell us the government has no impact on the price of gas.

Of course if it was >$4 the FNM would tell is it was Trump's fault.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:28 AM (sKqQm)

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We're going to have an oil glut by September (we were going to have one with the strait being in flux no matter what because of rerouted supply and decreasing demand for a couple of major reasons).

If refinement can keep up, we'll probably see a sans-CA national average of no more than $2.50. Probably less.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:29 AM (Zn6QU)

107 Why is there some assumption that if we were to destroy the Iranian oil industry that we must or should rebuild it? That would seem to be a fruity European and heathen Chinaman problem, FWIW.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 11:27 AM (BI5O2)

I agree completely. I see no reason why we’d have to fix anything we broke… big picture they started the whole thing with embassy hostages in 79… FAFO delayed by 47 years

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 11:30 AM (gZZCh)

108 MOU or ultimate agreement doesn't matter. Iran won't abide."

Probably not. So? Recall JRR Tolkien's take on the future...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:30 AM (cGjQu)

109 My reading of leftwing forums has found the most common view is disappointment that Trump isn't going to pull a Shrub and send 200K American troops to occupy and police it.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:10 AM (sKqQm)

Which is entirely because they wanted to bitch about that. So, instead, they'll bitch that he didn't do that because all they do is bitch about Trump.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 11:30 AM (ExV1e)

110 When Trump demanded "unconditional surrender", I assumed he meant the Iranians.
I was wrong.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at June 22, 2026 11:30 AM (MNCvZ)

111 The Atlantic had a piece crowing how the war has been a failure. I also suspect they'll try to pin any perceived failures on JD's involvement as well when he runs for president. But any arguments on its failure pales in comparison to Ukraine, so...

Also, to wound Trump, they make damning comparisons to Obama's Iran deal that hurt Obama! Interesting.

Trump in Defeat
By Jonathan Lemire

Oh no! Now neither of their readers will vote for Vance.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)

112 Does anyone believe Iran will abide by anything it agrees to on a piece of paper?

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 11:30 AM (JpaWp)

113 That would seem to be a fruity European and heathen Chinaman problem, FWIW.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 11:27 AM (BI5O2)
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In a rather saucy mood today, eh?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 11:31 AM (mWKAz)

114 Iran is not our only problem.

Chicago mayor ignores dozens of shootings over the weekend, discusses "Transfemicide State of Emergency" instead

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:31 AM (ndZc7)

115 Look at what is happening in South America. Taking out Maduro paved the way for the election results that are being realized. That hurt China in a big way too.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 11:31 AM (afJtY)

116 how much cheaper would gas be if we didn't add corn to it?

we already know gas mileage would increase

Posted by: DanMan at June 22, 2026 11:31 AM (8uzBS)

117 MOU or ultimate agreement doesn't matter. Iran won't abide. My answer to the question is keep the pressure on economically peppering with occasional bombing and rebel arming until the islamic regime falls.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 11:27 AM (n5tGW)

A sensible take on the issue.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 11:31 AM (1z8ji)

118 Does anyone believe Iran will abide by anything it agrees to on a piece of paper?"

Nope. So what?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:32 AM (cGjQu)

119 No difference between them and the nazis, imperial japs or russian commies.

Posted by: Take A Bite at June 22, 2026 11:29 AM (g7saB)

Well, we nuked Japan, and we allied with the Russians to defeat the Nazis. So, there are just a few small differences. Not to be THAT guy.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:32 AM (dK+Kv)

120 MOU or ultimate agreement doesn't matter. Iran won't abide.

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Obviously Trump knows that and you use that fact to your advantage.

Posted by: SH at June 22, 2026 11:32 AM (qCV5n)

121 I believe very strongly that the ruling class should stop supporting the bad guys and resisting Trump.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 22, 2026 11:33 AM (VTKnR)

122 >>Does anyone believe Iran will abide by anything it agrees to on a piece of paper?

Do you believe we no longer possess the means to keep punishing Iran when they inevitably break their promises?

Some of you seem to think Iran can live on air and the destruction of their economy is simply a mild inconvenience.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:33 AM (viF8m)

123 what polynikes said...gas is close to $3 sw of Houston

Posted by: DanMan at June 22, 2026 11:33 AM (8uzBS)

124 121 I believe very strongly that the ruling class should stop supporting the bad guys and resisting Trump.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 22, 2026 11:33 AM (VTKnR)

=====

"Look at that bitch eating crackers like he owns the place."
-the ruling class when viewing Trump

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:33 AM (Zn6QU)

125 117 MOU or ultimate agreement doesn't matter. Iran won't abide. My answer to the question is keep the pressure on economically peppering with occasional bombing and rebel arming until the islamic regime falls.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 11:27 AM (n5tGW)

A sensible take on the issue.


It lacks certainty and simplicity. That's always the way to go.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:33 AM (Riz8t)

126 I don't listen to opinions coming from people who believe a man can be a woman, that 29 billion is a lot compared to 150 billion for Ukraine and that celebrating our 250th anniversary is jingoistic.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:34 AM (GP8V/)

127 So YOU'RE the guy siphoning gas out of my car!?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

(Spits) um, no, not me! Why do you ask???

: )

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 11:34 AM (T6aVk)

128 Anyone know how much money Iran has received since the signing of the MOU?

Remember, we were told that they would instantly get access to $300 billion, plus $12 billion in frozen assets.

You know how much they've gotten?

$0.

They've gotten nothing. They complain about it. The US treasury has confirmed.

Why? Because Iran is not abiding by the MOU and is threatening the strait.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (Zn6QU)

129 Does anyone believe Iran will abide by anything it agrees to on a piece of paper?"

Nope. So what?
Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:32 AM (cGjQu)

So it’s all moot and theater.

Trump will hail incredibly terrific yuuuge agreement to end all nuclear programs in Iran. And the very next day all the nuclear engineers will go back to work at their nuclear program jobs.

And we’ll be right back where we started.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (JpaWp)

130 115 Look at what is happening in South America. Taking out Maduro paved the way for the election results that are being realized. That hurt China in a big way too.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 11:31 AM (afJtY)

agreed, although I suspect that what really did it was eliminating USAID. Venezuela facilitating the hit on Nino Guerrero was a nice touch. Delcy Rodriguez realizes it's in her and her families best interest to gradually eliminate all rival bases of power inside Venezuela.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (edUvp)

131 I believe very strongly that the ruling class should stop supporting the bad guys and resisting Trump.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 22, 2026 11:33 AM (VTKnR)
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Well!

How gauche!

*grasps pearl necklace *

Posted by: Maryjane Cuthbertson-Klein from Groton, CT at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (mWKAz)

132 The Reluctant Lunch - a new novel by Thomas Pynchon.
Posted by: Pendant Publishing Presents at June 22, 2026 11:07 AM (pBJ6M)

THE RELUCTANT LUNCH

Chapter One


A sandwich comes across your plate.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
It is too late. Your Luncheon still proceeds, but it's all theatre. There is no bacon inside the bread slices. No bacon anywhere. Above you drift dreams old as Quiznos, and Ranch Dressing somewhere far above that would let the teeth of your mouth bite. But it's Pastrami on White Bread with Mayo. You're afraid of the way the soft white bred will soon clump, stuck upon the roof of your mouth. It will be a spectacle: the failure of your lunch. But coming down in a brown paper bag, without one single Fritos Brand Corn Chip, only great invisible saddening hunger.
...

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (iJfKG)

133 Remember, we were told that they would instantly get access to $300 billion, plus $12 billion in frozen assets.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (Zn6QU)

lol

So much BS.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (dK+Kv)

134
Who is going to be their ally? Russia and China are collapsing. Sunnis hate Shia.

But Trump's a blustering blowhard.

Posted by: Auspex

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By the way, I've often heard that this wasn't all about Iran; it was about China. I'm losing the narrative, so can anyone tell me what we're demonstrating to China -- or better still, doing to China?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (XJ22o)

135 Iran is not our only problem.

That is true.

Not of our foreign enemies like Iran, China, or the EU are the primary problem which is the enemy at home.

And the way you deal with that problem is focus everything on winning the midterms.

Imagine, for example, if there are 2 SC resignations/deaths in the next 2 years.

What we get will be very different if there are 55, 52, or 49 R Senators...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (sKqQm)

136 Bessent is still.tying any release of funds to food aid that comes from the USA grown by American farmers.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (afJtY)

137 133 Remember, we were told that they would instantly get access to $300 billion, plus $12 billion in frozen assets.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (Zn6QU)

lol

So much BS.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (dK+Kv)

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Well, it's what fed the narrative of the US defeat. So, it had to be true.

Otherwise, Trump would know what he's doing, and that's just not possible.

He's a dumb poopy head.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (Zn6QU)

138 Some of you seem to think Iran can live on air and the destruction of their economy is simply a mild inconvenience.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:33 AM (viF8m)

I know, man.

We demonstrated, quite literally weeks ago, that devastating this country is a trivial matter for the United States, and can be done at will. They're powerless to prevent us from assraping them anytime we want.

There is always the problem of the will to rape that particular ass. But the ability to do it is no longer in question.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (BI5O2)

139 >>>Gas prices affect other prices as well because goods have to be shipped to stores or delivered to your house

The left wants to use an inflation narrative against Trump so they'd love to have increased prices due to fuel costs

Posted by: 18-1

>This shouldn't even be an issue with the advent of EVs. I don't buy it.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (fkjGs)

140 I know little - just enough to understand that we have to pay attention. Decided to drag this over from a prior thread commented upon -

>The National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) has held its annual grand gathering and political events in France for over 20 years, traditionally hosting the massive summits since 2004.

French police just banned & dispensed a massive planned rally by the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) in Paris on June 20th, citing fears of clashes and a tense international context. Authorities also arrested approximately 20 demonstrators who defied the ban, with organizers reporting 12 injuries as police used pepper spray to break up the gathering.

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31. I don't think the MOU has anything to do with the midterms, actually.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Agreed.

Also think the progressives are going for the economy and its effects on the "average working families" since C19 (2020), however they must twist to present it as real.

Also lots of drama about social security & Medicare, pushing deeper into universal healthcare, setting up for Presidential election campaign. Oh, and climate, the great jobs boondoggle.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 11:37 AM (NFX2v)

141 One positive about all this every enemy world leader does have to worry if they screw with the US enough their might be a missile or a drone with their name on it.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:37 AM (sKqQm)

142 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (Zn6QU)

What are they getting from the Arab world?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 11:37 AM (PLxDd)

143 Betcha can't wait for me.

Posted by: The Recalcitrant Dinner at June 22, 2026 11:38 AM (Ov6Yl)

144 At least so far, we have not seen a reference to the Straight of Hormuz.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 11:38 AM (1z8ji)

145 >>Trump will hail incredibly terrific yuuuge agreement to end all nuclear programs in Iran. And the very next day all the nuclear engineers will go back to work at their nuclear program jobs.

Yes, of course. It seems absolutely clear that Trump will allow Iran to restart their nuclear program.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:38 AM (viF8m)

146 Imagine, for example, if there are 2 SC resignations/deaths in the next 2 years.

What we get will be very different if there are 55, 52, or 49 R Senators...

Yeah, but...I don't like Susan Collins, so we should get rid of her and let a Democrat take over!

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:38 AM (Riz8t)

147 I agree gas price is way overblown as a political thing. People do love to complain about it. Even though in terms of actual costs gas going up $1 translates to $400-500 a year for the typical driver. It’s not nothing but it’s also not life altering money the way some people and especially the msm act.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 11:38 AM (JpaWp)

148 remember when Goode and Pretti getting themselves killed was going to lead to Democrat wins in the midterms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:25 AM (Zn6QU)

Eggs
Epstein
Signal
Firing Bondi

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 11:39 AM (22ggK)

149 Nope. So what? >>>
My point is that it's not worth debating individual parts of any agreement with them. I was just answering the "finish the job" question.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 11:39 AM (n5tGW)

150 Trump had no problem with Obama's Iran deal except the fact that Obama paid Iran all the money up front instead of piecemeal when they complied with the agreement. He ridiculed that harshly.




Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:39 AM (GP8V/)

151 142 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (Zn6QU)

What are they getting from the Arab world?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 11:37 AM (PLxDd)

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Outside of some trade?

Nothing.

The $300 billion fund was outlined in the MOU as being available to Iran when the MOU was finished, not as a signing bonus. It's a carrot to actually finish negotiations (at which point they may get it, assuming all the other issues are sorted out) and follow through, not to just get them to talk.

They were already talking.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:39 AM (Zn6QU)

152 Well, it's what fed the narrative of the US defeat. So, it had to be true.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (Zn6QU)

We're far from victory, for sure. But I expect goalposts to be moving like a mofo as any progress is made.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:39 AM (dK+Kv)

153 >>Trump had no problem with Obama's Iran deal except the fact that Obama paid Iran all the money up front instead of piecemeal when they complied with the agreement. He ridiculed that harshly.

Then why did he famously end it during his first term?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:40 AM (viF8m)

154 They've gotten nothing. They complain about it. The US treasury has confirmed.

Why? Because Iran is not abiding by the MOU and is threatening the strait.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (Zn6QU)

You mean to say that they've gotten nothing from the US. Since US sanctions were lifted on Friday, money is already flowing in from China, Turkey, Russia, Qatar, and Pakistan. Cargo ships full of goods are entering Iranian ports freely; 36 million barrels of Iranian oil has already been shipped out.

For better or for worse, the plan of putting Iran under economic pressure completely collapsed this weekend.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:40 AM (edUvp)

155 Yes, of course. It seems absolutely clear that Trump will allow Iran to restart their nuclear program.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:38 AM (viF8m)


How’s he going to stop them?

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 11:40 AM (JpaWp)

156 152 Well, it's what fed the narrative of the US defeat. So, it had to be true.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:36 AM (Zn6QU)

We're far from victory, for sure. But I expect goalposts to be moving like a mofo as any progress is made.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:39 AM (dK+Kv)

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You should see how many cargo vessels are coming into Iranian ports now that the blockade is over!

It's almost none.

Almost no one wants to actually trade with Iran now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:40 AM (Zn6QU)

157 They won't be have until the last Imam is gone, Iran is a hopeless case

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 11:40 AM (sgkY8)

158 You can kill thousands of soldiers but the world damns you for targeting enemy leaders. Yes "the world" in this context are people that would kill Trump given a chance and well, us too, but for some reason the right also listens to these people.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:15 AM (sKqQm)

The movers and shakers on the right are members in good standing of the WEF Global Aristocracy also.

Common people are cattle, meat to be used for the amusement of their betters. Slaughter all you like but never touch a hair on the head of one of the anointed.

Same as it ever was.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 11:41 AM (ExV1e)

159 143 Betcha can't wait for me.
Posted by: The Recalcitrant Dinner at June 22, 2026 11:38 AM
++++

I'm sitting right here.

Posted by: The Bumptious Breakfast at June 22, 2026 11:42 AM (Ov6Yl)

160 Also lots of drama about social security & Medicare, pushing deeper into universal healthcare, setting up for Presidential election campaign. Oh, and climate, the great jobs boondoggle.

I occasionally read that OCare is failing, and yet enrollment is near record highs. I thought we were cutting off the subsidies.

ACA Marketplace (Obamacare) enrollment figures by year:
2026: 23.0 million
2025: 24.3 million (Record high)
2024: 21.3 million
2023: 15.6 million
2022: 13.8 million
2021: 11.2 million
2020: 10.7 million
2019: 10.6 million
2018: 10.6 million
2017: 10.3 million
2016: 11.1 million
2015: 10.2 million
2014: 6.3 million

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:42 AM (Riz8t)

161 15 You mean to say that they've gotten nothing from the US. Since US sanctions were lifted on Friday, money is already flowing in from China, Turkey, Russia, Qatar, and Pakistan. Cargo ships full of goods are entering Iranian ports freely; 36 million barrels of Iranian oil has already been shipped out.

For better or for worse, the plan of putting Iran under economic pressure completely collapsed this weekend.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:40 AM (edUvp)

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The barrels of oil they sold were already filled and in tankers. Yes, they've sold some oil, but they also have to worry about restarting their wells before they can do more.

And the cargo? It's minimal. They bought some grain from Brazil, but it's going to take 30+ days to get there.

And their GDP dropped by 50% in the past 3 months. That's what the economic damage was that they have to undo.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:42 AM (Zn6QU)

162 I'm losing the narrative, so can anyone tell me what we're demonstrating to China -- or better still, doing to China?"

Sure. Their vaunted techno might turned out to be... not so much. Their "support" of various governments turned out to be...useless. Most importantly, we have demonstrated that we control their cheaper energy supply, and there's not a damn thing they can do about it.
Therefore, it's in their best interest to get along. Or not. Their call.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:43 AM (cGjQu)

163 >>> Oh no! Now neither of their readers will vote for Vance. Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)

Haha!

They are making a big deal on the 250th that they were the first publication to print the Battle Hymn of the Republic, and they proudly put a facsimile of the original song on their cover.

Ironic because they would never, ever publish it today. It's far too Jesus-y.

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 11:43 AM (gWBY1)

164 >>How’s he going to stop them?

Did Trump agree to give up all of the exact same weapons he deployed to destroy their nuclear program 5 minutes ago in his negotiations with Iran?

Maybe Iran can buy more air defense systems that don't work from China.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:43 AM (viF8m)

165 Speaking of egg prices, let's return to this talking point and the left:

2024 after Biden's flunky kills millions of chickens: Egg prices are normal only racists and science deniers claim otherwise.

Start of 2025: How dare Trump fire an expert and minority woman like that! And reverse her common sense policies! It had to be done!

Early 2025: See Trump has high egg prices he should be impeached!

Late 2025: Obviously the government has no impact on egg prices you idiots. It is all just random!

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:43 AM (sKqQm)

166 Eesh, an Iran thread. I’m out. Please, Y’all, don’t start throwing the crockery at each other.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 11:06 AM (77rzZ)
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Crockery > China

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 11:43 AM (V6d0j)

167 You should see how many cargo vessels are coming into Iranian ports now that the blockade is over!

It's almost none.

Almost no one wants to actually trade with Iran now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:40 AM (Zn6QU)

You and Tom Servo should confer.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:43 AM (dK+Kv)

168 My attitude right now? Wait and see. One of the aspects of this war is Iran found out their top o' the line military gear from Russia and China is worthless shit. China and Russia have to be a little weak in the knees about it too.

My main concern is if Iran secretly improves and starts large-scale manufacturing of their drones again.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2026 11:44 AM (g8Ew8)

169 "Iran should never be able to trade again," is honestly an interesting take.

We've outright stolen $12 billion of their expatriot assets, which we're holding hostage.

Their trade can't rebound instantly, especially since we've taken or sunk most of their shadow fleet.

They have few dollars and worthless rials to trade with otherwise.

This doesn't bounce back in a weekend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:44 AM (Zn6QU)

170 Then why did he famously end it during his first term?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:40 AM (viF8m)

You think any post that doesn't praise Trump is against Trump.

He ended it because Iran didn't comply because they didn't have to because they got paid up front. I assume his MOU won't do that .

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (GP8V/)

171 I'd imagine the billions of dollars that theoretically would be released to Iran could be earmarked for certain, civilian things. That the IRGC would "steal" the money and redirect it elsewhere it pretty much a given, but if there were controls in place to prohibit that it might make a difference.

As in building schools instead of mosques. Repairing the country's infrastructure. And so on.

Shut the mullahs and the IRGC out completely... if possible. BAMN

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (jehhT)

172 One positive about all this every enemy world leader does have to worry if they screw with the US enough their might be a missile or a drone with their name on it."

And that the Chinese defensive materials they purchased might not get the job done...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (cGjQu)

173 You mean to say that they've gotten nothing from the US. Since US sanctions were lifted on Friday, money is already flowing in from China, Turkey, Russia, Qatar, and Pakistan. Cargo ships full of goods are entering Iranian ports freely; 36 million barrels of Iranian oil has already been shipped out.

For better or for worse, the plan of putting Iran under economic pressure completely collapsed this weekend.


You should see how many cargo vessels are coming into Iranian ports now that the blockade is over!

It's almost none.

Almost no one wants to actually trade with Iran now.

I think we need to resolve this dispute before we continue arguing.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (Riz8t)

174 In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King. The IRGC and the mullahs are still the one-eyed man in Iran. (shrugs)

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (QaH55)

175
If I had to guess, Trump probably knows that Iran will break the MOU.

Iran's whole history tells us that they will, and it tells them that we will bend and give them whatever they want.

Trump has said they will receive bombs on the tops of their heads for violating the agreement.

I suspect that will happen and then Trump can say "Welp, we gave them chance, but they want to be animals. So, bombs it is."

That part may not happen till after the election.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (iJfKG)

176 Posted by: Maryjane Cuthbertson-Klein from Groton, CT at June 22, 2026 11:35 AM (mWKAz)

Torquewrench cries at what you did to his sock...

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 22, 2026 11:46 AM (zBgIx)

177 ...I believe that a solid majority of Trump/MAGA voters are both America-first and solidly pro-Israel.

That's the rub, isn't it.

Posted by: "True Conservatives" Tucker Carlson, David French, Candace Owens, Jonah Goldberg, etc at June 22, 2026 11:46 AM (ycI94)

178 Another talking point I'm seeing: the new supreme leader is worse than the Ayatollah, so we killed off one baddie to replace him with a monster. So we failed at that too.

Because leaving the original Ayatollah in power was going to usher in kumbaya? Said no one.

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 11:46 AM (gWBY1)

179 173
I think we need to resolve this dispute before we continue arguing.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (Riz8t)

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Money flowing in from the countries means that some of them are buying oil that Iran already had on tankers.

They're allowed to continue some trade.

But, outside of what's on those tankers, Iran is going to have to restart its wells to get more, and they don't trade much else.

These countries are not just giving Iran money, and there are very hard ceilings for what Iran can sell. Their manufacturing was destroyed at least 80% in the bombing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:47 AM (Zn6QU)

180 The framework signed by the U.S. and Iran involves at least $300 billion for Iranian postwar economic reconstruction.
U.S. officials explicitly state that "not a cent of American money goes to Iran."

The funding for the reconstruction is expected to come from investments by Persian Gulf states or other international entities, while the U.S. will grant the legal waivers to permit the transactions.

BBC, What's in the US-Iran agreement?

In part, "One official noted that the US is not required to pay "a cent of money" to Iran, or contribute to the fund.

As a hypothetical example, the official said that if Iran "behaves", Emirati authorities could build a power plant in Iran, with US blessing.

Trump and other officials have gone to great lengths to make clear to the US public that it will not be paying Iran directly, which the administration says stands in stark contrast to the 2015 nuclear agreement between Iran and the Obama administration."

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 11:48 AM (NFX2v)

181 All good moslems follow the book. The book told them to kill Israeli athletes at the 72 Olympics. Nothing has changed since 72, moslems still go by the book.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2026 11:48 AM (LHPAg)

182 No matter what happens, this drone issue is gonna be a thing to deal with in the world. Other than the nukes, Russia turns out to be a somewhat paper tiger, but the Ukes brought them to their knees with $500 drones on infrastructure.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 11:48 AM (n5tGW)

183 Every Picture Tells a Story.

Rod Stewart Required Oxygen Mid-Concert After Nearly Collapsing Onstage

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:48 AM (ndZc7)

184 >>You think any post that doesn't praise Trump is against Trump.

No, I simply asked you a question. You said Trump had no problem with Obama's JCPOA. Trump ended that deal his first term to much criticism from the usual spots. It was in all the papers.

Go back and look at old interviews with Trump from decades before he became president. He's been saying for decades that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon and Obama's deal did nothing to stop them from enriching. In fact, the sunset clause in the deal wouldve ended it by now.

The JCPOA was dogshit. It stopped nothing. The money was because Obama wanted to make Iran the center of power in the ME.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:48 AM (viF8m)

185 Because leaving the original Ayatollah in power was going to usher in kumbaya?"

Shhhh. And of course the supreme leader is the moderate one. After all, assassinating Stalin would've made the USSR that much worse, dontchaknow?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:49 AM (cGjQu)

186 Their vaunted techno might turned out to be... not so much. Their "support" of various governments turned out to be...useless. Most importantly, we have demonstrated that we control their cheaper energy supply, and there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

It would amuse and delight me if all the money China spent on the BARI turned out to be the equivalent of sending money to a Nigerian prince.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:49 AM (Riz8t)

187 One positive about all this every enemy world leader does have to worry if they screw with the US enough their might be a missile or a drone with their name on it."

And that the Chinese defensive materials they purchased might not get the job done...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (cGjQu)

That TdA leader getting a drone strike was the cherry on top of the Venzuela raid that got Maduro. I imagine that that provided a bit of clarity.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:49 AM (dK+Kv)

188 Rod Stewart Required Oxygen Mid-Concert After Nearly Collapsing Onstage
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:48 AM (ndZc7)

Another old fart that needs to pack it in and go away already.

Posted by: Metamucil at June 22, 2026 11:50 AM (g7saB)

189 187
That TdA leader getting a drone strike was the cherry on top of the Venzuela raid that got Maduro. I imagine that that provided a bit of clarity.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:49 AM (dK+Kv)

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That was coordinated with the Venezuelan government, I believe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:50 AM (Zn6QU)

190 Because leaving the original Ayatollah in power was going to usher in kumbaya? Said no one.
Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 11:46 AM (gWBY1)

I think the problem is the idea that changing leaders has any effect at all. Not in a fanatical religious system, it doesn't. Mohammed #1 is instantly replaced by Mohammed #2 is instantly replaced by Mohammed #3. It's a bug hunt that never ends.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:50 AM (edUvp)

191 Because leaving the original Ayatollah in power was going to usher in kumbaya?"

Shhhh. And of course the supreme leader is the moderate one. After all, assassinating Stalin would've made the USSR that much worse, dontchaknow?

And doing...something, would only create more terrorists.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:51 AM (Riz8t)

192 >>Rod Stewart Required Oxygen Mid-Concert After Nearly Collapsing Onstage

Tonights the night
Gonna be ...... ahhhhhh

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:51 AM (viF8m)

193 No matter what happens, this drone issue is gonna be a thing to deal with in the world"

You know, we might just have a handle on that.

Let's ask Maduro.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 11:51 AM (cGjQu)

194 I suspect that will happen and then Trump can say "Welp, we gave them chance, but they want to be animals. So, bombs it is."

That part may not happen till after the election.
Posted by: naturalfake

Based on their history, and their obvious understanding of the US political environment, I'd expect them to clearly, publicly violate the MOU, treaty or negotiations in some way shortly before the midterms. Trump can do nothing substantial and look weak, hurting him and the GOP. He can bomb Iran again, spiking gas prices right before the midterms (and giving anti-interventionists more ammunition). Or they could offer Trump a political win with an actual peace deal, but demand very favorable terms. In many ways, I think Iran is relatively well situated, especially for a country that recently had its military smashed pretty badly, economy wrecked, and multiple top leaders killed.

Posted by: Military Moron at June 22, 2026 11:51 AM (ycI94)

195 159 143 Betcha can't wait for me.
Posted by: The Recalcitrant Dinner at June 22, 2026 11:38 AM
++++

I'm sitting right here.
Posted by: The Bumptious Breakfast

right behind ya

Posted by: enticing elevenses at June 22, 2026 11:52 AM (sGtp+)

196 Rod Stewart Required Oxygen Mid-Concert After Nearly Collapsing Onstage
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:48 AM (ndZc7)

Another old fart that needs to pack it in and go away already.

Maybe he and Springsteen can open a nice bed and breakfast somewhere.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:52 AM (Riz8t)

197 No matter what happens, this drone issue is gonna be a thing to deal with in the world. Other than the nukes, Russia turns out to be a somewhat paper tiger, but the Ukes brought them to their knees with $500 drones on infrastructure.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk

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I can't help but wonder if Iran's ability to damage infrastructure in neighboring countries surprised our planners.

Its not quite MAD, but it's. . . something.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 22, 2026 11:52 AM (uH26z)

198 I think the problem is the idea that changing leaders has any effect at all. Not in a fanatical religious system, it doesn't. Mohammed #1 is instantly replaced by Mohammed #2 is instantly replaced by Mohammed #3. It's a bug hunt that never ends./i]

It depends on just how much of a true believer each is, and how much they fear the US versus their own underlings.

A successful change of leader from our perspective isn't going to be someone that goes from "Death to America" to "Buy a coke for everyone in America" but instead a leader that keeps saying Death to America but doesn't actually do anything about it...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 11:52 AM (sKqQm)

199 ny ways, I think Iran is relatively well situated, especially for a country that recently had its military smashed pretty badly, economy wrecked, and multiple top leaders killed.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

200 Iran is desperately trying get tapped into the Qatari power grid because they cannot generate enough power to supply basic needs

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 11:53 AM (afJtY)

201 That was coordinated with the Venezuelan government, I believe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:50 AM (Zn6QU)

Yep. And there is very likely similar efforts with assets in Iran to target recalcitrant IRGC leaders that are pitted against any elements that are MOU-favorable that we have been dealing with.

But to give credit to Trump/Hegseth and our Israeli allies for such consideration is probably just 4D chess mumbo jumbo or something.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:53 AM (dK+Kv)

202 The JCOPA required Iran to destroy 98% of their enriched uranium and their centrifuges. They didn't comply.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:54 AM (GP8V/)

203 Rod Stewart Required Oxygen Mid-Concert After Nearly Collapsing Onstage

Tonights the night
Gonna be ...... ahhhhhh
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:51 AM (viF8m)

Well, one thing in Rod's favor is that I haven't heard him flap his gums about politics. When not performing, he plays with his model railway outfit, which is quite spectacular.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 11:54 AM (1z8ji)

204 Rod Stewart Required Oxygen Mid-Concert After Nearly Collapsing Onstage

That's a strange headline. I require oxygen pretty much all the time too.

Posted by: far cry at June 22, 2026 11:54 AM (pBJ6M)

205 I was hoping to harm the heathen Chinese more than this.

That said, they had to sit in the cuck chair watching helplessly as the Yankees took their girlfriend by force, and wrecked up all their vaunted next-gen weapons systems with a shrug and a flick of the finger.

It hasn't gone great for these yellow devils.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 11:54 AM (BI5O2)

206 Et tu, Ole Yeller?

Fox’s Mark Levin Is Now Lashing Out at Trump

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:54 AM (ndZc7)

207 >>> I occasionally read that OCare is failing, and yet enrollment is near record highs. I thought we were cutting off the subsidies.

ACA Marketplace (Obamacare) enrollment figures by year:
2026: 23.0 million
2025: 24.3 million (Record high)
...
2014: 6.3 million

I thought it leaked out that the reason enrollment is so high is because they got illegals and refugees onto Obamacare? Something that was promised at the outset they would never, ever do?

There were rumbles on that, then nothing. Are they going to finally cut them all off? We have to stop these stupid money spigots from flowing.

Also, apparently there is new proof that money for Ukraine flowed directly into Biden reelection coffers. Not holding my breath he'll ever see justice for it or get arrested.

Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2026 11:54 AM (gWBY1)

208 ACA Marketplace (Obamacare) enrollment figures by year:
2026: 23.0 million
2025: 24.3 million (Record high)
2024: 21.3 million
2023: 15.6 million
2022: 13.8 million
2021: 11.2 million
2020: 10.7 million
2019: 10.6 million
2018: 10.6 million
2017: 10.3 million
2016: 11.1 million
2015: 10.2 million
2014: 6.3 million

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:42 AM (Riz8t)

I thought this was the payout schedule to Iran

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 11:55 AM (22ggK)

209 I can't help but wonder if Iran's ability to damage infrastructure in neighboring countries surprised our planners.

Its not quite MAD, but it's. . . something.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 22, 2026 11:52 AM (uH26z)

It probably did, because it is more of a kamikaze move, cutting off potential allies in one swift stroke. I wouldn't have anticipated it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:55 AM (dK+Kv)

210 I suspect that will happen and then Trump can say "Welp, we gave them chance, but they want to be animals. So, bombs it is."

That part may not happen till after the election.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (iJfKG)

I have seen many saying this, even Kurt Schlichter. Think about this for a second - it would mean that the plan was to allow Iran to rearm for 6 months, get rid of all remaining internal opposition for 6 months, use the money to build new ME alliances for 6 months, and build new impenetrable hiding spots for the leadership for 6 months - and only THEN restart the war?

That would be the most idiotic military plan in the history of idiotic military plans. Which is why I don't believe it could ever happen; it's just a massive cope to help people internalize what's been done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:56 AM (edUvp)

211 Rod Stewart Required Oxygen Mid-Concert After Nearly Collapsing Onstage

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:48 AM (ndZc7)

Ironically, Stewart was singing his big number one hit,

"Do Ya Think I'm Anoxic?"

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 11:56 AM (iJfKG)

212 202 The JCOPA required Iran to destroy 98% of their enriched uranium and their centrifuges. They didn't comply.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:54 AM (GP8V/)

The wait period on inspections existed to allow everyone to pretend that Iran had.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 22, 2026 11:56 AM (okun6)

213 206 Et tu, Ole Yeller?

Fox’s Mark Levin Is Now Lashing Out at Trump
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:54 AM (ndZc7
As a man thinketh so is he.

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2026 11:56 AM (LHPAg)

214 Our " power competition" Russia and China aren't liking the war a bit.
Russia got a lot of weapons from Iran and used the Iranians as a proxy. No more
China is hurting for oil and is a chaotic mess otherwise. Their construction is awful at home and in the Belt and Road Initiative . Their population is cratering and unemployment is soaring. Their weaponry has been shown to be shit and they appear to be in a period of killing enemies inside the government. On the road to collapse

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 11:57 AM (Iurxt)

215 The only reason the mullahs are even being mentioned is that they are the front for any talks. The IRGC is a designated terrorist group

The mullahs have no power in Iran any more

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 11:57 AM (afJtY)

216 The wait period on inspections existed to allow everyone to pretend that Iran had.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 22, 2026 11:56 AM (okun6)

Yeah they gave them a year and all the money .

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:57 AM (GP8V/)

217 214 China is hurting for oil and is a chaotic mess otherwise. Their construction is awful at home and in the Belt and Road Initiative . Their population is cratering and unemployment is soaring. Their weaponry has been shown to be shit and they appear to be in a period of killing enemies inside the government. On the road to collapse

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 11:57 AM (Iurxt)

=====

I remember a few months ago when they went to the IMF to ask for bailouts for the Belt and Road partners who weren't paying them back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 11:57 AM (Zn6QU)

218 Rod Stewart Required Oxygen Mid-Concert After Nearly Collapsing Onstage
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:48 AM (ndZc7)

Another old fart that needs to pack it in and go away already.

Maybe he and Springsteen can open a nice bed and breakfast somewhere.
Posted by: Archimedes

At least he didn't need his stomach pumped.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 22, 2026 11:58 AM (P7vXf)

219 It probably did, because it is more of a kamikaze move, cutting off potential allies in one swift stroke. I wouldn't have anticipated it.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:55 AM (dK+Kv)

I agree, none of us did. To give grudging respect to an enemy, Iran out thought us strategically in the same way that the Ukrainians have out thought Russia. They came up with ways to inflict pain that we are not, as a society, willing to bear.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:58 AM (edUvp)

220 “All white girls are slags. They don’t obey Allah, so they deserve to be punished. They should be raped as punishment for not obeying Allah.”
That was said to a Rotherham girl – now a doctor – by the men who raped her.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 11:58 AM (ndZc7)

221 I won't know what to think about Iran until I hear from raimondo

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 11:58 AM (22ggK)

222 I have seen many saying this, even Kurt Schlichter. Think about this for a second - it would mean that the plan was to allow Iran to rearm for 6 months, get rid of all remaining internal opposition for 6 months, use the money to build new ME alliances for 6 months, and build new impenetrable hiding spots for the leadership for 6 months - and only THEN restart the war?

That would be the most idiotic military plan in the history of idiotic military plans. Which is why I don't believe it could ever happen; it's just a massive cope to help people internalize what's been done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:56 AM (edUvp)

Hormuz gets more irrelevant the more time passes. Iran rebuilding to pre-war levels would several years, and even then we'd still have the option to go back and bomb them basically at leisure until their anti-air becomes sufficiently advanced.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 22, 2026 11:59 AM (okun6)

223 >> Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:56 AM (edUvp)

What country are you from?

Posted by: That Guy at June 22, 2026 11:59 AM (OjdEO)

224 The MOU was forced on us (and Israel) by the Arab Gulf States.
What it does give us, is additional evidence that the Taqiya Republic cannot be trusted to honor a deal as long as it literally has a religion of deceit for a constitution. Sunni Arabs know this of course but they need to remind their people from time to time.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 11:59 AM (gKWVE)

225 Their weaponry has been shown to be shit "

Funny. We were assured repeatedly (even on smaht military blogs) that their techno power was dwarfing everything we could do, and we were this close to China demonstrating their awesome power over us.

Hmmm.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:00 PM (cGjQu)

226 Rod Stewart Required Oxygen Mid-Concert After Nearly Collapsing Onstage

Tonights the night
Gonna be ...... ahhhhhh
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 11:51 AM (viF8m)

He was in Salt Lake City, which is 5000+ feet in elevation.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 22, 2026 12:00 PM (PSEDc)

227 222
Hormuz gets more irrelevant the more time passes. Iran rebuilding to pre-war levels would several years, and even then we'd still have the option to go back and bomb them basically at leisure until their anti-air becomes sufficiently advanced.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 22, 2026 11:59 AM (okun6)

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It took Iran literally decades to build up its ballistic missile manufacturing capabilities.

Can you imagine the corruption, inefficiencies, and graft associated with projects in the Middle East?

Once UAE finishes that pipeline they started in April, man, the strait is going to be so completely irrelevant that if you told someone from the oil shock of the 70s about it, they'd call it science fiction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:00 PM (Zn6QU)

228 As for Russia, I don't believe time is on their side.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 12:01 PM (gKWVE)

229 223 >> Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:56 AM (edUvp)

What country are you from?
Posted by: That Guy at June 22, 2026 11:59 AM (OjdEO)

Texas.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:01 PM (edUvp)

230 To give grudging respect to an enemy, Iran out thought us strategically . . . .

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:58 AM (edUvp)

Ukraine is losing. Iran is . . . winning?

Iran cut its nose off to spite it's face. I don't see that as a winning strategy, currently, unless you want to give them credit for future outcomes, which are highly fluid and dependent on not only IRGC moves.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:01 PM (dK+Kv)

231 224 The MOU was forced on us (and Israel) by the Arab Gulf States.
What it does give us, is additional evidence that the Taqiya Republic cannot be trusted to honor a deal as long as it literally has a religion of deceit for a constitution. Sunni Arabs know this of course but they need to remind their people from time to time.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 11:59 AM (gKWVE)

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It's funny the amount of fretting over the MOU and the little that actually changed because of it.

Iran still hasn't gotten a dime of the frozen funds, and Trump added new requirements for Iran to get them (related to nuclear inspections).

They can trade now, but trade is...limited. And they have to overpay for grain to get anyone to show up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:02 PM (Zn6QU)

232 The estimate is that Iran killed 60k-100k of what they believed to be the opposition during the ceasefire. That's the part that gets me.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:02 PM (GP8V/)

233 but I want to believe both of those camps are at the two ends of a bell curve.
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I believe so too. I hope we are right.

I'm a centrist on Israel - sell them all manner of military goods so they can survive in a harsh environment, and don't hesitate to take their side when in alignment with US interests (against Islamist aggression is nearly always in our interests). But they are a foreign country, not all of their interests, which they are in their right to pursue, align with the US.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (Dv3i1)

234 I suspect that will happen and then Trump can say "Welp, we gave them chance, but they want to be animals. So, bombs it is."

That part may not happen till after the election.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 11:45 AM (iJfKG)

I have seen many saying this, even Kurt Schlichter. Think about this for a second - it would mean that the plan was to allow Iran to rearm for 6 months, get rid of all remaining internal opposition for 6 months, use the money to build new ME alliances for 6 months, and build new impenetrable hiding spots for the leadership for 6 months - and only THEN restart the war?

That would be the most idiotic military plan in the history of idiotic military plans. Which is why I don't believe it could ever happen; it's just a massive cope to help people internalize what's been done.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 11:56 AM (edUvp)

You could be right, I may be crazy.

Anywho, we're running small sorties right now is my understanding. That may be enough to keep the Iranians from any major rearmament.

a massive campaign might trigger political difficulties for Trump and the Reps. A clear win in Nov, clears the deck for a lot of things to happen.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (iJfKG)

235 232 The estimate is that Iran killed 60k-100k of what they believed to be the opposition during the ceasefire. That's the part that gets me.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:02 PM (GP8V/)

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The Iranian people will never rise up. No democracy will ever take root.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (Zn6QU)

236 Pipelines can be bombed, ask Russia

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (n5tGW)

237 What country are you from?
Posted by: That Guy at June 22, 2026 11:59 AM (OjdEO)

That's funny.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (dK+Kv)

238 236 Pipelines can be bombed, ask Russia

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (n5tGW)

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And quickly and cheaply repaired, especially if buried in the sand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (Zn6QU)

239 I remember a few months ago when they went to the IMF to ask for bailouts for the Belt and Road partners who weren't paying them back."

And the roads have turned to crap. It's fun to watch decade plus clips of top gear as the find nice, shiny, new tarmac in parts of the world - and then see clips lately of those roads looking like Michigan or California...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (cGjQu)

240 Iran cut its nose off to spite it's face. I don't see that as a winning strategy, currently, unless you want to give them credit for future outcomes, which are highly fluid and dependent on not only IRGC moves.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:01 PM (dK+Kv)

First, everyone is surprised that Ukraine does in fact appear to be doing better than Russia is now - situations in Crimea are desperate for the Russian forces there, which no one saw coming.

And as to allies - Arabs are notorious for always switching allegiances to whoever appears to come out on top of any particular conflict. They've been doing it for centuries.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:04 PM (edUvp)

241
I remember a few months ago when they went to the IMF to ask for bailouts for the Belt and Road partners who weren't paying them back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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That's interesting. I thought their whole strategy was:

1- sell infrastructure to low-tech partners who in reality can't maintain it

2- low-tech partners can't generate the revenue that was supposed to pay China back

3- China puts a lien on the infrastructure, gets itself a port/road/bridge whatever

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)

242 TJM It's funny the amount of fretting over the MOU and the little that actually changed because of it.

Someone else above us on this thread noted that "MOU" sounds like a noise a cow makes, and has about as much binding energy.
I think people on X and PJMedia and other such sites needed something to bleat about or their readers would look up cat videos instead.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 12:04 PM (gKWVE)

243 I'm think Trump is currently working on getting the Ukraine/Russia war to end . My feeling is we're close.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:04 PM (GP8V/)

244 But they are a foreign country, not all of their interests, which they are in their right to pursue, align with the US.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (Dv3i1)

That is a fair and reasonable position.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:04 PM (dK+Kv)

245 The Iranian people will never rise up. No democracy will ever take root."

Bbbut all cultures are just as gooder!

/wineboxers

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:05 PM (cGjQu)

246 242 TJM It's funny the amount of fretting over the MOU and the little that actually changed because of it.

Someone else above us on this thread noted that "MOU" sounds like a noise a cow makes, and has about as much binding energy.
I think people on X and PJMedia and other such sites needed something to bleat about or their readers would look up cat videos instead.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 12:04 PM (gKWVE)

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People talked about it like it was a peace treaty.

It's just a paper agreement about what will be talked about and conditions around it.

"But Iran gets $300 billion instantly!"

"Well, not instantly. Only if they follow through and behave. It's in the text of the agreement."

"US surrender!"

"What?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:05 PM (Zn6QU)

247 236 Pipelines can be bombed, ask Russia

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (n5tGW)

That invites further escalation however, which is why there are reports now of more bombing of civilian targets in Ukraine. Iran doesn't have the ability to defend itself at present and limited offensive capabilities compared to before the war.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 22, 2026 12:06 PM (okun6)

248 The Iranian people will never rise up. No democracy will ever take root.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (Zn6QU)

That wasn't my point .

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:06 PM (GP8V/)

249 First, everyone is surprised that Ukraine does in fact appear to be doing better than Russia is now - situations in Crimea are desperate for the Russian forces there, which no one saw coming.

Not all of us.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

250 Just listening to a major podcaster, and I had to turn it way down to not offend my wife because this guy says "FUCKING" every other word. That doesn't make him sound edgey or passionate. It makes him sound stupid.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 22, 2026 12:06 PM (iP/HW)

251 I do not sound like a cow when I am being violated.

Posted by: Maureen Ophelia Urquhart at June 22, 2026 12:07 PM (pBJ6M)

252 241,

That seems to have been their plan. Unfortunately, they forgot that it was Africa and the Middle East.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:07 PM (cGjQu)

253 The Iranian people will never rise up. No democracy will ever take root.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:03 PM (Zn6QU)

Given that it hasn't happened in at least 1400 years, that's a safe bet.

It is not a western society. A small fraction may hold western values, but not enough to make a difference.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:07 PM (edUvp)

254
I'm think Trump is currently working on getting the Ukraine/Russia war to end . My feeling is we're close.
Posted by: polynikes

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I'm hoping for Cuba Libre.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 12:07 PM (XJ22o)

255 245 The Iranian people will never rise up. No democracy will ever take root."

Bbbut all cultures are just as gooder!

/wineboxers

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:05 PM (cGjQu)

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Mowing down 60,000 people in January and then hunkering down because Daddy Trump is gonna come and take care of it are the actions of a people unwilling to take the sacrifice they've already made in blood and turn it into something themselves.

The US and Israel bombed the shit out of IRGC strongholds all the way down to Basij city stations and checkpoints. And still, almost nothing in response from the people themselves.

If Iran is to throw off the bonds of its own oppressors, they need a king in country to lead them. They're not going to do it themselves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:08 PM (Zn6QU)

256 I really don't understand the deal.

If we know they are lying, and they know we know they are lying, it's all just theater.

The reality of the situation is that we're going to keep having to shoot at them when they break the deal.

Posted by: MJ at June 22, 2026 12:08 PM (XOmY9)

257 Just listening to a major podcaster, and I had to turn it way down to not offend my wife because this guy says "FUCKING" every other word. That doesn't make him sound edgey or passionate. It makes him sound stupid.

(Narrator: It doesn't "make him" sound stupid. He is stupid.)
I'll bet it's Rogan.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:08 PM (Riz8t)

258 256 I really don't understand the deal.

If we know they are lying, and they know we know they are lying, it's all just theater.

The reality of the situation is that we're going to keep having to shoot at them when they break the deal.

Posted by: MJ at June 22, 2026 12:08 PM (XOmY9)

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What if I told you that the closing of the strait was no more than theater as well?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:08 PM (Zn6QU)

259 First, everyone is surprised that Ukraine does in fact appear to be doing better than Russia is now - situations in Crimea are desperate for the Russian forces there, which no one saw coming.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:04 PM (edUvp)

Better than expected, yes. Better than Russia? That's a proposition of dubious merit.

Ukraine is around the same size as Texas. It should be no surprise that Russia would need to add cannon fodder to the meat grinder there.

That SHOULD inform our decisions and goals in Iran, not coincidentally.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:09 PM (dK+Kv)

260 160. I occasionally read that OCare is failing, and yet enrollment is near record highs. I thought we were cutting off the subsidies.

Posted by: Archimedes

Several states operating their own marketplaces (such as California, Colorado, New Jersey, and New Mexico) have stepped in with state-funded premium subsidies and cost-sharing reductions.

States like North Carolina and South Dakota expanded their Medicaid programs under the ACA. This policy change continues to transition hundreds of thousands of low-income adults into newly available, highly subsidized health coverage.

Certain states have enacted rules to shield consumers from gaps in coverage.
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Each state is different, and those that can keep spending may never be reigned by the feds. Will it lead to universal healthcare?
🤷🏼‍♀️

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 12:09 PM (NFX2v)

261 I'm hoping for Cuba Libre."

It's 11 am on a Monday...

You want one lime or two with that?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:09 PM (cGjQu)

262 If Iran is to throw off the bonds of its own oppressors, they need a king in country to lead them. They're not going to do it themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:08 PM (Zn6QU)

The only lesson the Iranian government took from the uprising is that "we killed 60,000 people and no one stopped us! Next time, we'll kill 100,000!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:10 PM (edUvp)

263 I really don't understand the deal.

If we know they are lying, and they know we know they are lying, it's all just theater.


FDR *spit* knew that we'd be involved in WWII sooner or later, but he had to let the American people come to that conclusion. IMHO, Trump is doing the same. He won't send in ground troops, but he'll restart bombing and say "I gave them a chance, and they spurned it".

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:10 PM (Riz8t)

264 >>The reality of the situation is that we're going to keep having to shoot at them when they break the deal.

That's pretty much how the world works. Every country in the world makes a deal to act as a rational partner and not attack its neighbors or do things to hurt them. When they don't other countries strike back.

We didn't have formal deals with Venezuela or Cuba but they were attacking us. Now they aren't.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 12:11 PM (viF8m)

265 262 If Iran is to throw off the bonds of its own oppressors, they need a king in country to lead them. They're not going to do it themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:08 PM (Zn6QU)

The only lesson the Iranian government took from the uprising is that "we killed 60,000 people and no one stopped us! Next time, we'll kill 100,000!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:10 PM (edUvp)

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Get the shah's son into the country, a save haven. Rally the people around him. Raise an irregular army, and then call for the regular army to join him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:11 PM (Zn6QU)

266 If Iran is to throw off the bonds of its own oppressors, they need a king in country to lead them. They're not going to do it themselves."

I find myself in the unenviable position of agreeing with this person. Again.

Sigh.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:11 PM (cGjQu)

267 Trump allowed Ukraine to have and use weapons to hit deep into Russia. If Biden and his idiots had done this early in war things would be very different. The Russians are winning on the ground because the Ukrainians are running out of men. Russia proper, especially Crimea, is suffering from shortages of oil because the Ukrainians are hitting refineries

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 12:11 PM (Iurxt)

268 266 I find myself in the unenviable position of agreeing with this person. Again.

Sigh.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:11 PM (cGjQu)

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*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:12 PM (Zn6QU)

269 Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:09 PM (dK+Kv)

Between dubious and recalcitrant you have me wondering what you ate this morning.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:12 PM (22ggK)

270 Masoud Pezeshkian, President of Iran, is openly mocking Trump and saying that of course they will keep their nuclear enrichment program. And that there's nothing Trump can do about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:12 PM (edUvp)

271 The idea that an Iranian uprising would happen at all was highly doubtful. That it would prevail against entrenched radical Islam in any event was a pipe dream of delusional old neocon cementheads, sorry.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:12 PM (BI5O2)

272 Archimedes is perceptive and correct. Beginning to think Yon has the right take on that guy.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 22, 2026 12:13 PM (iP/HW)

273 267 Trump allowed Ukraine to have and use weapons to hit deep into Russia. If Biden and his idiots had done this early in war things would be very different. The Russians are winning on the ground because the Ukrainians are running out of men. Russia proper, especially Crimea, is suffering from shortages of oil because the Ukrainians are hitting refineries

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 12:11 PM (Iurxt)

If it continues there's the risk that Russia starts taking out power plants.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 22, 2026 12:13 PM (okun6)

274 The Russians are winning on the ground because the Ukrainians are running out of men.

Oh, please. They're not winning. The Russians have won less and less ground every month, and are now losing net ground. Their troops are mutinying, because the Ukes aren't sending in assault meat waves, they're destroying the Russian's logistics well behind the front.

You aren't winning a war when your navy has to run away, your capitol is being bombed, and your economy is in shambles.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:14 PM (Riz8t)

275 Between dubious and recalcitrant you have me wondering what you ate this morning.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:12 PM (22ggK)

Lack of sleep.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:14 PM (dK+Kv)

276 Y'all still on this

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 12:15 PM (UrW4A)

277 Get the shah's son into the country, a save haven. Rally the people around him. Raise an irregular army, and then call for the regular army to join him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:11 PM (Zn6QU)

Anything is worth a try, I suppose. This almost definitely won't work, though, and we can under no circumstances agree or suggest to safeguard that guy's regime by force of our own arms.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:15 PM (BI5O2)

278 Allegedly, many within the country's protest movements demand an end to all forms of dictatorship in favor of a secular, democratic republic.

No return of the Shah, either. No idea if that covers the son of Shah.

But they have to determine their form of government and get on with it.

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 12:15 PM (NFX2v)

279 Get the shah's son into the country, a save haven. Rally the people around him. Raise an irregular army, and then call for the regular army to join him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:11 PM (Zn6QU)

This could have worked, and this is what bothers me about the claim that Kurdish arms dealers ran off with the weapons. I do not want to believe this is true, that it's just a psy-op to cover up something else - because if it IS true, it means that our plan to overthrow the Iranian Government was:
1) give some unnamed shady middle eastern arms dealers a bunch of weapons with no money down
2) hope that everything just works out.
3) if it doesn't work out, go with Plan B.
4) there is no plan B.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 12:16 PM (edUvp)

280 The Russians are winning on the ground because the Ukrainians are running out of men.


I highly recommend you read this piece.

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=71985

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:16 PM (Riz8t)

281 You know, I might have to take some time away and rest. Perhaps watch a movie?

Any recommendations?

*ducks*

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:16 PM (cGjQu)

282
277 Get the shah's son into the country, a save haven. Rally the people around him. Raise an irregular army, and then call for the regular army to join him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:11 PM (Zn6QU)

Anything is worth a try, I suppose. This almost definitely won't work, though, and we can under no circumstances agree or suggest to safeguard that guy's regime by force of our own arms.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:15 PM (BI5O2)

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He'd be risking his life. So, I doubt it would happen.

But I think it's the only thing that could lead to anything like a populist revolt in country.

I'm sure there's some medium-sized city that would offer him safety from which to start.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 22, 2026 12:16 PM (Zn6QU)

283 Anything is worth a try, I suppose. This almost definitely won't work, though, and we can under no circumstances agree or suggest to safeguard that guy's regime by force of our own arms.

It has a whiff of Bay of Pigs about it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

284 >>You aren't winning a war when your navy has to run away, your capitol is being bombed, and your economy is in shambles.

How's the Ukrainian economy doing? How do you think it would be doing without hundreds of billions of dollars of NATO money flowing into it?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 12:17 PM (viF8m)

285 Corrupt nood

Posted by: Clay at June 22, 2026 12:17 PM (5Rf2z)

286 Ukraine demonstrated to the world what could be accomplished with drones years ago. Yeah, Iran manufactured the original "suicide drone" but it's been copied and refined elsewhere... even by us.

Ukraine also claimed a drone kill first... using one with AI to hunt, and kill... a specific person. If reports about that incident are true.

We're lagging. Focusing on "big ticket" UAV's that can fly with fighter jets or bombers. We ought to be churning out millions of "toy" sized drones with AI and several ounces of C4 that can swarm enemy troops in the open.

Or people we don't like.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 12:17 PM (jehhT)

287 "Finish him. Finish him *your* way!"

"Oh, good. My way. Thank you, Vizzini... which one's my way?"

"Pick up one of those rocks. Get behind the boulder. In a few minutes, the Man in Black will come running around the bend. The minute his *head* is in view, HIT IT WITH THE ROCK!"

"My way's not very sportsmanlike."

Posted by: pookysgirl with the applicable Princess Bride quote at June 22, 2026 12:17 PM (Wt5PA)

288 Y'all still on this"

Yeah. It's gone from horse, to glue, to horse feed, and back to horses.

Again. Do try to keep up.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 12:18 PM (cGjQu)

289 280 The Russians are winning on the ground because the Ukrainians are running out of men.

Posted by: Archimedes

Send them back from US home remodeling companies?

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 12:18 PM (NFX2v)

290 What if I told you that the closing of the strait was no more than theater as well?
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How so? I'm legit confused, not trying to be obtuse

Posted by: MJ at June 22, 2026 12:18 PM (XOmY9)

291 The idea that an Iranian uprising would happen at all was highly doubtful. That it would prevail against entrenched radical Islam in any event was a pipe dream of delusional old neocon cementheads, sorry.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 12:12 PM (BI5O2)

When they attempted it during Obama administration and he did nothing to help ,the Right and commenters here let him have it. Prior to our operation there was a lot of hope it could happen again. And once we started there was more hope. Instead we stopped after only 39 days and allowed the IRG to regroup and massacre everyone they thought might be part of the opposition. Sorry but that doesn't sit well with me .

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 12:18 PM (GP8V/)

292
Allegedly, many within the country's protest movements demand an end to all forms of dictatorship in favor of a secular, democratic republic.

No return of the Shah, either. No idea if that covers the son of Shah.

Posted by: L -No nic

===============

Son of Shah said he would oversee a transition, not take over.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 12:19 PM (XJ22o)

293 How's the Ukrainian economy doing? How do you think it would be doing without hundreds of billions of dollars of NATO money flowing into it?

Irrelevant. We ARE sending them money, and they ARE winning, or at the very least holding the Russians at bay. Russia is deteriorating fast, so it's a matter of Ukraine making them pay until they've had enough. I think that time is fast approaching.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 12:21 PM (Riz8t)

294 Lack of sleep.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:14 PM (dK+Kv)

😂 Me too

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 12:23 PM (22ggK)

295 Funny how Ukraine is winning and US should perpetrate regime change - which almost certainly would require ground invasion - can simultaneously be held in the same noggin.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 12:30 PM (dK+Kv)

296
Son of Shah said he would oversee a transition, not take over.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2026 12:19 PM (XJ22o)



Except that no one thinks that he's just in it to oversee a transition. Nearly 50 years of "The Shah was de debil! SAVAK was the horde of Satan!" propaganda is tough to overcome, even if he's on the level about volunteering to be a transitional figure.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (y9nCu)

297 It's insane that this is tolerated.

We should never stop saying this. So far not a single prosecution of anybody involved in the greatest, most concerted assault on human health and bodily sovereignty in our history.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 22, 2026 12:31 PM (fZiTB)

298 Thanks, Buck. One of Trump's problems is the inability to clearly communicate at certain important times. There are some basics that become lost over time: 1. When President Donald Trump ordered the start of Operation Epic Fury on February 28, like many people I assumed a brief air campaign to further degrade Iran's nuclear weapons program. The instigator was Iran's own negotiators, who boasted to Trump advisor Steve Witkoff that they had produced enough nuclear material for nearly a dozen weapons. All Tehran needed to do was make the final uranium enrichment step from 60% to 90%, then assemble the warheads.
Neither Trump nor Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu — whose nation former Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called a "two-bomb country" — had a choice in the matter. . .

Vodkapundit

Posted by: KT at June 22, 2026 12:39 PM (rdeQO)

299 2. Clayton Wood, June 18, 2026
As what we assume are accurate summaries of the MOU began to emerge, a brilliant friend told me he was looking forward to to reading my view.

I said, “If Iran is a very good boy, it gets a pony. I do not believe the IRGC knows how to be a very good boy for long, and everyone reading the MOU is furious about the idea that it might get the pony anyway.”

Posted by: KT at June 22, 2026 12:45 PM (rdeQO)

300 What of all these reports about Trump restraining Israeli action against Hezbollah because those strikes jeopardize the MOU with Iran? Is Trump so enamored of attaining an impossible agreement that he is willing to expose Israel to the tender mercies of willy-nilly rocketry?

Blow up Iran's military & nuclear capability and walk away is great. For what does Trump actually need an agreement - especially one which everyone including himself has to know is worthless?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 22, 2026 01:08 PM (bufu1)

301 Clayton S. Wood (see 299) also had some history and commentary on incentives for several parties to this mess going forward.

https://claytonswood.substack.com/p/
the-boy-who-cried-wolf

And he has another Substack piece up on Letters of Marque as a way to open the strait, with some interesting thoughts about Lloyds of London's incentives to keep the strait somewhat dangerous.

Posted by: KT at June 22, 2026 01:20 PM (rdeQO)

302 Iran won that war.
Nick just to sent bring himself to say it
Iran still has all of its 60% enriched urainium . 60% enriched is 97% of the effort needed to get to 90%.
Bombing unifies a country as it did in Germany and Vietnam.
Trump is pissed at Bibi as he well should be.
Worldwide support for Israel is at an historical low.
Great job Buck!

Posted by: Paul at June 22, 2026 01:27 PM (DV8PA)

303 Open the damn Strait and keep it open using military force. Yes, you will be shot at, but everything people are saying about the huge weapons supply Iran still has is largely bluff. Look at what they've been attacking ships with recently. Hint: Not hypersonic missiles.

Any location that fires on us gets flattened. Keep doing this until they're launching rubber rafts full of dynamite. Sink those.

The key is to get the lily-livered insurance and shipping companies out of the picture somehow.

- After Iran commences hostilies, restart the blockade. If ships have any sense, they won't come back to the Gulf anyway after they escape.

- Let Israel be Israel. They do a damn good job of blasting our enemies for us.

- Wouldn't hurt to maybe knock off another layer of leaders.

Posted by: MartynWW at June 22, 2026 02:00 PM (IUbKC)

304 100% agreement, Buckster.

Iran and Israel are proxies for Western nations used to control risk management which feeds The City of London which created our Fed. Trump is building a parallel system with Sovereign countries rather than globalism. This is just a step.

Posted by: Danimal28 at June 22, 2026 02:33 PM (3peS3)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

Munch Girl Window1.jpg

The Girl by the Window
Edvard Munch

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




Comments

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (2YhKe)

2 Sidewalk chalk art......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (2YhKe)

3 Reading by the pale moonlight.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (2YhKe)

4 Waiting for her sparkly vampire boyfriend to show up...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (gnNyN)

5 Not much detail sadly because itcould be a nice painting

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 09:31 AM (sgkY8)

6 The girl was angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at June 22, 2026 09:31 AM (Ov6Yl)

7 No dog either.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 09:31 AM (Kt19C)

8 Waiting for her sparkly vampire boyfriend to show up...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (gnNyN)



SHHHHHHH! You'll wake up the First Lady.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (2YhKe)

9 Kind of looks like she is holding a book. But as said not enough details

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (sgkY8)

10 I kind of like the blue, but what's with the balls behind her?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (mPXxA)

11 What light through yonder window breaks?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (ibDUx)

12 But, is she screaming?

Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (+iIfu)

13 Title checks out.

Posted by: Person who checks out titles at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (Ov6Yl)

14
I like it and suspect it would be something that would have to be seen in person to be fully appreciated.

Where is it hanging out these days?

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (Y8DZL)

15 What light through yonder window breaks?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (ibDUx)


I thought that was the sniper's round breaking the window.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (2YhKe)

16 Would not hang.

Posted by: Kumala Whoris at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (l3cgK)

17 It's Wendy, obviously!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (X8xt3)

18 Wow, a pleasant Munch painting.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (77rzZ)

19 Someone that close to a window risks defenestration...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (l3cgK)

20 meh

Posted by: Otto Penn at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (sJHOI)

21 "...but what's with the balls behind her?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM
++++++
She likes big balls and she cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir Suxalot at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (Ov6Yl)

22 4 Waiting for her sparkly vampire boyfriend to show up...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (gnNyN)

Heh.
That book was a girl's choice between necrophilia and beastiality...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (l3cgK)

23 I kind of like the blue, but what's with the balls behind her?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I can explain that.

Posted by: Buttigig at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (ItpVy)

24 21 "...but what's with the balls behind her?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM
++++++
She likes big balls and she cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir Suxalot at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (Ov6Yl)

I think that's her bed...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (l3cgK)

25 Who she flashing?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (jehhT)

26 The wall outside is blocking the door.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (2YhKe)

27 Are we sure that isn't a ghost?

If there is anything movies have taught me its that a girl in a long white night down moving around at night is at least 50% of the time a ghost...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (sKqQm)

28 Quit wiping your nose on the drapes!

Posted by: PabloD at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (tTZHu)

29 It’s a peaceful scene but my criticism of the painter is that the girls form, particularly arms and legs, is quite fuzzy and non-precise. Her hands and feet are blobs. But still it has an overall calming feel…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (+gA9j)

30 She's peeping at the house across the way...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (l3cgK)

31 25 Who she flashing?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM
-----
Everybody. It's Mardi Gras.

Posted by: Rue Bourbon at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (Ov6Yl)

32 One, two, Freddy's coming for you......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (2YhKe)

33 >>Waiting for her sparkly vampire boyfriend to show up...



Uhhhhhh, not here in Salem's Lot

Posted by: Stephen King at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (X8xt3)

34 Her hands and feet are blobs

I'm big boned!

Posted by: The girl at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (sKqQm)

35
Edvard Munch? Is she getting ready to jump?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (O0L8i)

36 29 It’s a peaceful scene but my criticism of the painter is that the girls form, particularly arms and legs, is quite fuzzy and non-precise. Her hands and feet are blobs. But still it has an overall calming feel…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (+gA9j)

Maybe Munch had vision issues?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (l3cgK)

37 Don't jump!

Posted by: Creepy Joe at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM (Ov6Yl)

38
It’s a peaceful scene but my criticism of the painter is that the girls form, particularly arms and legs, is quite fuzzy and non-precise.

Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM (O0L8i)

39 Might as well jump.

Posted by: Van Halen at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM (Ov6Yl)

40 Is that floor window supposed to be a reflection? Because it doesn't look like a reflection, but a floor window...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (l3cgK)

41 Mr. Mixx'll make ya JUMP JUMP!

Posted by: Kris Kross at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (2YhKe)

42 39 Might as well jump.

Posted by: Van Halen at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM (Ov6Yl)

Jump! For my Love!

Posted by: Pointer Sisters at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (l3cgK)

43 Peeping tom across the street forget to turn off the light.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (jehhT)

44 Might as well jump.
Posted by: Van Halen
_______

She's suffering from Romeo Void.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 09:39 AM (XvL8K)

45 Peeping tom across the street forget to turn off the light.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (jehhT)


The lesbians across the street have managed to screw up their bright ass LED outdoor motion lights where they just sit there and turn on and off all the time.

It's awesome because they light up the glass in my front door, which just so happens to shine right into my side of the bed.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (2YhKe)

46 Spring
Erlöse mich
Spring
Enttäusch mich nicht
Spring für mich
Spring ins Licht
Spring

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (tL5sl)

47 Van Halen’s Jump… nice touch. Only the horde would put that in this context…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (+gA9j)

48 She's workin' on her night moves.
Tryin' to lose the awkward teenage blues.

Posted by: Bob Seger at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (Ov6Yl)

49 The lesbians across the street have managed to screw up their bright ass LED outdoor motion lights where they just sit there and turn on and off all the time.

How many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Posted by: The girl at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (sKqQm)

50 It's awesome because they light up the glass in my front door, which just so happens to shine right into my side of the bed.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (2YhKe)

Yeah, no fun. Had issues with neighbor's lights flashing during Christmastime into my bedroom window...even with the blinds closed, the light still seeps in through the cracks and sides.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (l3cgK)

51
Away to the window she flew in a flash, tore open the shutter and threw up... - a limerick

There once was a young girl from Maine
Who slowly was going insane
"I fret and I worry that my view is so blurry
But cleaning second-story windows is a pane!"

Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (I0N4X)

52 I find I must strenuously object to this art. Not just merely object, but strenuously object. Thank you and God Bless America.

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2026 09:42 AM (GNqmQ)

53 49 The lesbians across the street have managed to screw up their bright ass LED outdoor motion lights where they just sit there and turn on and off all the time.

How many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Posted by: The girl at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (sKqQm)

Depends. Is scissoring involved?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:42 AM (l3cgK)

54
How many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Posted by: The girl at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (sKqQm)


It appears, one. The other one ain't climbing a ladder.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:42 AM (2YhKe)

55 It's Wendy, obviously!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (X8xt3)
-

WRONG!!!!

Everyone knows it's Windy!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (exwma)

56 She is bereft because she won't have Keir Starmer to kick around any more.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (Riz8t)

57 56 She is bereft because she won't have Keir Starmer to kick around any more.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (Riz8t)

Maybe she's watching the Muzzie r@pe gangs down the lane...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (l3cgK)

58 Gladys Kravitz, the early years.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 09:44 AM (XvL8K)

59 Rear Window, lesbian edition.

Posted by: Jimmy Stewart unavailable for comment at June 22, 2026 09:45 AM (Ov6Yl)

60 "Footless Girl Stares At Maxipad At Midnight."

So evocative. So misunderstood. So mnambulant.

Posted by: red speck at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (Ve/HL)

61 OnlyFans, analog edition.

Posted by: Before the interwebs at June 22, 2026 09:47 AM (Ov6Yl)

62 Smudgy. Keep rubbing my eyes, but it doesn't get clearer. Maybe more coffee will help.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 22, 2026 09:47 AM (6v6cQ)

63 Smudgy. Keep rubbing my eyes, but it doesn't get clearer. Maybe more coffee will help.

The only thing that would help is to go back in time and convince Edvard Munch to pick a different profession.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (Riz8t)

64 OnlyFans, analog edition.
Posted by: Before the interwebs

But how does the money change hands?

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (6v6cQ)

65
Now That Sissy Has Gone Off to College I sGet Her Bedroom

A young girl renowned for self-effacement
Gazed out on the world from her casement
"It's a beautiful day
and I really must say,
This view is much better than the basement!"

Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (I0N4X)

66 Ask your urologist if My nambulant is right for you.

Posted by: Big Fat Farma at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (Ov6Yl)

67 "But how does the money change hands?"
+++
Carrier pigeon.

Posted by: But it's still twenty bucks at June 22, 2026 09:50 AM (Ov6Yl)

68 "I hope I shall see The Paolo someday again."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:50 AM (0sNs1)

69 Outside her window is a guy screaming.
Like this one, would hang.
Thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 09:51 AM (Iurxt)

70 ‘somebody see you up there’

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2026 09:51 AM (LHPAg)

71 But how does the money change hands?
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:51 AM (0sNs1)

72 Not a fan of Edvard Munch. The depressive scenes he usually chooses, the faces that don't even rise to the level of caricature, and the colors that look like van Gogh on the brown acid: what is the appeal?

Having said that, this painting is effective. The girls is indistinct but recognizable. The colors are soft and reflect the look of moon light which is echoed in her night gown. all the elements combine to create a gentle, not necessarily peaceful, mood. It's listed as an oil painting but it looked like pastel to me.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (yTvNw)

73 Nice picture. Thanks. Less grim than some by Munch.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (vY9Lp)

74 Edvard Munch?? More like BUTT-munch!

Posted by: Beavis at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (jDdwC)

75 Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM

Schrödinger's Cat's box is behind her, just out of frame.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (0sNs1)

76 74 Edvard Munch?? More like BUTT-munch!

Posted by: Beavis at

Heh heh. Heh heh heh.

Posted by: Butthead at June 22, 2026 09:55 AM (Riz8t)

77
"Girl by the Window..."

"...Later Seen Running Down the Road, Screaming"

-- as reported on the Pittsburgh Police Scanner

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 09:55 AM (s9VOe)

78 Perhaps Piper can bring us some interesting fashion content regarding nightgowns one of these Sunday nights.

Posted by: Fashion novice at June 22, 2026 09:56 AM (Ov6Yl)

79 Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM

Schrödinger's Cat's box is behind her, just out of frame.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (0sNs1)
----
Where's the Heisenberg Compensator when you need one?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 09:56 AM (gnNyN)

80 75 Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM

Schrödinger's Cat's box is behind her, just out of frame.

I'm not sure about that.

Posted by: Werner Heisenberg at June 22, 2026 09:57 AM (Riz8t)

81 Perhaps Piper can bring us some interesting fashion content regarding nightgowns one of these Sunday nights.
Posted by: Fashion novice at June 22, 2026 09:56 AM (Ov6Yl)

Especially those worn by ghosts

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:58 AM (jDdwC)

82 "The reflection on the floor doesn't match the shape of the window. We're sorry, Mr. Hitler, but you'll have to consider other options for your career."

Posted by: The Vienna School of Fine Art at June 22, 2026 09:58 AM (6/7Fs)

83 the cruiser is still parked there...

Posted by: cmeat at June 22, 2026 09:59 AM (R11M+)

84 79 Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM

Schrödinger's Cat's box is behind her, just out of frame.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM
----
Yes, but she's looking out of MY window.

Posted by: Johari at June 22, 2026 10:00 AM (Ov6Yl)

85 Alternate title:

"In The Pale Moonlight, In The Dead of the Night,
Melissa Sniffs Her Shoes"

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 10:00 AM (iJfKG)

86 How many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Depends on the filament. Is it tongue sten?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 22, 2026 10:02 AM (zdLoL)

87
81 Perhaps Piper can bring us some interesting fashion content regarding nightgowns one of these Sunday nights.
Posted by: Fashion novice at June 22, 2026 09:56 AM (Ov6Yl)

I'm pretty sure that all Piper wears now is a white bedsheet with two eyeholes cut into it.

Ghosts aren't known for their sense of fashion.

Alas, poor Piper. An eternity in percale.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 10:02 AM (iJfKG)

88 84 79 Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM

Schrödinger's Cat's box is behind her, just out of frame.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM
----
Yes, but she's looking out of MY window.
Posted by: Johari at June 22, 2026 10:00 AM
+++++
I think she's feeling boxed in.

Posted by: B. F. Skinner at June 22, 2026 10:02 AM (Ov6Yl)

89
Especially those worn by ghosts

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:58 AM (jDdwC)


You wear a nightgown?

Death has CHANGED you, man.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 10:03 AM (2YhKe)

90
"Oh, the shame of having been dismissed from my exulted position as Scullery Maid for the finest home in Oslo?! However can I break that news to dearest Mama and Papa? And how now will we ever be able to afford to send young Fritz to the finest school in all of Norway (sod roof notwithstanding)?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 10:05 AM (s9VOe)

91 Nah, blurry painting.
Do not want.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 10:05 AM (xcxpd)

92 Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:58 AM (jDdwC)


You wear a nightgown?

Death has CHANGED you, man.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 10:03 AM

Weasel did open up the Gun Thread last night to Doof jokes. Perhaps that was a portent.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 10:05 AM (0sNs1)

93 90
"Oh, the shame of having been dismissed from my exulted position as Scullery Maid for the finest home in Oslo?! However can I break that news to dearest Mama and Papa? And how now will we ever be able to afford to send young Fritz to the finest school in all of Norway (sod roof notwithstanding)?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
####

She's pining for the F150s.

Posted by: FoMoCo at June 22, 2026 10:06 AM (Ov6Yl)

94 This is amateur hour at the arts and crafts academy. I'd take this to the pawn shop.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 10:06 AM (fkjGs)

95 Especially those worn by ghosts

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:58 AM (jDdwC)


You wear a nightgown?

Death has CHANGED you, man.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 10:03 AM (2YhKe)

I wonder if ghosts play pickleball in nightgowns? I wonder if this girl was getting ready for a nighttime pickleball match and was looking out the window to see if her competition had yet arrived?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 10:07 AM (yz/88)

96
Weasel did open up the Gun Thread last night to Doof jokes. Perhaps that was a portent.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 10:05 AM (0sNs1)


Weasel said Doof was a joke, then shot him, which immediately lead to the Ghost of Doof haunting Weasel Acres.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 10:07 AM (2YhKe)

97
Nah, blurry painting.
Do not want.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo

It was much clearer prior to Edvard spilling that full bottle of aquavit all over it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 10:07 AM (s9VOe)

98 Not exactly Degas, is it, Eddie?

Posted by: Slo at June 22, 2026 10:08 AM (NYInA)

99
I wonder if ghosts play pickleball in nightgowns? I wonder if this girl was getting ready for a nighttime pickleball match and was looking out the window to see if her competition had yet arrived?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 10:07 AM


*visions of Maggie dancing on the green at Bushwood after discovering she wasn't pregnant*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 10:08 AM (2YhKe)

100 97
Nah, blurry painting.
Do not want.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo

It was much clearer prior to Edvard spilling that full bottle of aquavit all over it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 10:07 AM (s9VOe)

I can only hope that is the reason

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2026 10:08 AM (xcxpd)

101 >>>How many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Just HOW big is this light bulb?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 10:08 AM (dK+Kv)

102 She can't sleep. That fish egg spaghetti she had for supper did not sit well with her.

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 10:09 AM (IY9No)

103
What's an audience got to do to get some quality macaroni art works featured in this space?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 10:09 AM (s9VOe)

104 Looks like how I see the world with my glasses off.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 22, 2026 10:10 AM (OUMaO)

105 104 How are you doing, Brother Tim?

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 10:11 AM (77rzZ)

106 This one is a mystery to me. Where is the light source? How dan it be shining through the window and also lighting the side of the neighboring house facing the window? Why is the shadow of the window brown?

This photo was posted on twitter yesterday and it is just incredible. Better than most paintings, IMO.

https://tinyurl.com/yhm4x9kv

Posted by: $XOM Shareholder at June 22, 2026 10:11 AM (2ap+5)

107
She can't sleep. That fish egg spaghetti she had for supper did not sit well with her.
Posted by: Case

The lutefisk kabobs appetizers did not help matters any, either.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 10:11 AM (s9VOe)

108 How many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Posted by: The girl at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM

Do they want it to flicker or go steady?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 10:12 AM (0sNs1)

109 Eh, wot's this I hear that CBD is a Fed?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 10:12 AM (0sNs1)

110 An Eternity In Percale was a lighthearted lesbian comedy that had a moderately successful run off Broadway in the Summer of 2016. Sets featured muted pastels with scissors motifs and dykes in the background scenery. Dialogue featured recurring references to muffins, carpet and drapes.

Posted by: Snooty Theatre Critic at June 22, 2026 10:12 AM (Ov6Yl)

111 Nah, blurry painting.
Do not want.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo

It was much clearer prior to Edvard spilling that full bottle of aquavit all over it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 10:07 AM (s9VOe)

I can only hope that is the reason

They warned me and warned me that if I kept doing that, I would go blind. I should have listened.

Posted by: Edvard Munch at June 22, 2026 10:13 AM (Riz8t)

112 110 An Eternity In Percale was a lighthearted lesbian comedy that had a moderately successful run off Broadway in the Summer of 2016. Sets featured muted pastels with scissors motifs and dykes in the background scenery. Dialogue featured recurring references to muffins, carpet and drapes.

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Compared by many to Lysistrata and Cats.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2026 10:14 AM (6/7Fs)

113
This one is a mystery to me. Where is the light source? How dan it be shining through the window and also lighting the side of the neighboring house facing the window?

Competing searchlights from Pittsburgh Police search choppers. Didn't you see the scanner reference in 77?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 10:14 AM (s9VOe)

114 If you look up "virago" in the dictionary, it has Jennifer Newsom's photo in the entry, cross referenced with "dingbat" and "slattern."

Whatever criticisms I have for Gavin Newsom, as a man, I pity him for that. It has to be Hellish. He's similar to Black Gavin (Obama) in that way. I'm not sure if she or Big Mike is more horrible. It's a race to the bottom.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 10:14 AM (BI5O2)

115 Well the big story breaking late or early depending which side of the pond you're on is that Keir Starmer has decided to call it quits as England's Prime Minister.

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Now that he has some competition, we can argue about whether Chamberlain was the worst prime minister ever.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:14 AM (ndZc7)

116 "R u wearing the shower curtain?"
"yes"
"I'd like to roll you up in it and put you in the car trunk."
"
"... and push the car into the swamp."
"<3<3<3!!!"

Posted by: Armie Hammer at June 22, 2026 10:15 AM (NYInA)

117 The Pickleball Ghosts would be a good name for a rock band.

Posted by: Dave Barry might not agree at June 22, 2026 10:15 AM (Ov6Yl)

118 Eh, wot's this I hear that CBD is a Fed?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 10:12 AM (0sNs1)

That's his mundane cover for other, more insidious ops.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 10:15 AM (dK+Kv)

119 She's pining for the F150s.
Posted by: FoMoCo at June 22, 2026 10:06 AM (Ov6Yl)

I think they're called F950,000s now.

https://shorturl.at/DK8gb

Posted by: Lady Who Steals Links at June 22, 2026 10:16 AM (JCLJi)

120 Ours is not the only constipated political system. Keir Starmer is resigning, but his replacement won't take office until the end of the summer. I say: ""You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!".

Starmer said he would remain caretaker prime minister until Labour members choose a new leader in the coming weeks.

"I will ask the National Executive Committee of the Labour Party to set out a timetable with nominations opening on the 9th of July and completed by the summer recess. In the case of a contest, this will ensure a new leader is in place before Parliament returns in September. I will remain in post as prime minister until the contest is complete. And I will do everything I can to ensure an orderly handover of power," he said.

https://tinyurl.com/2eh8cef9

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:17 AM (Riz8t)

121 Keir Starmer looks like a grown-up version of Ralphie from A Christmas Story. I wonder if he owns bunny pajamas.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2026 10:17 AM (6/7Fs)

122 115 Chamberlain was a moral man who loved his country and desired peace. No way he even comes close to competing with the evil fag Starmer.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 10:17 AM (77rzZ)

123 Keir Starmer looks like a grown-up version of Ralphie from A Christmas Story. I wonder if he owns bunny pajamas.

He's such a feckless twit, he'd have shot himself in both eyes by now.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:18 AM (Riz8t)

124 How are you doing, Brother Tim?

Posted by: Bulg

Hanging in. Stable and working housing options thanks to the Horde's generosity. And tomorrow evening I observe one year since my cancer surgery.

So good things in play, but I look forward to less interesting times!

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 22, 2026 10:18 AM (OUMaO)

125 Keir will be replaced by another open borders loving, British hating asshole. The names don’t matter at this point.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 10:18 AM (3cXW4)

126 Weasel said Doof was a joke, then shot him, which immediately lead to the Ghost of Doof haunting Weasel Acres.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 10:07 AM (2YhKe)

In process of turning the place into "Wobbly Acres"!

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 10:19 AM (jDdwC)

127 Sid's dog won't respect him anymore
tinyurl.com/rpadz8t2

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 10:20 AM (tL5sl)

128 124 Good to hear, Brother Tim. Keep hanging in there.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 10:20 AM (77rzZ)

129 Now that he has some competition, we can argue about whether Chamberlain was the worst prime minister ever.

*sobs*

Posted by: Stanley Baldwin at June 22, 2026 10:21 AM (Riz8t)

130 I think they're called F950,000s now.

https://shorturl.at/DK8gb

Posted by: Lady Who Steals Links at June 22, 2026 10:16 AM
$$$$
That was cute.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 10:21 AM (Ov6Yl)

131 Where's the outcry?
UN Blames Hamas for Torture and Public Execution of Gazans

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Well, there's good torture and execution and then there's Jew torture and execution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:22 AM (ndZc7)

132 I suspect Starmer's departure will be the first of many leftists in Europe. The people have had enough of their nonsense.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:23 AM (Riz8t)

133 Here's the new PM, same as the old one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2026 10:24 AM (6/7Fs)

134 Lighthearted lesbian romp…. Good way to start a review…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 10:24 AM (+gA9j)

135 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Nice art. A good way to start the week.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 10:24 AM (2WIwB)

136 I'm not so sure she's IN the window. Then again, is she behind the window or in front of it.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 10:24 AM (22ggK)

137 Friendly reminder Keir didn’t decide to open the borders one day out of the blue in 2024 when he became PM. That was started in the late 90s by Tony Blair and continues into the 2000s through successive Labour governments.

Between 2010 and 2024 Conservatives ran the UK uninterrupted. Cameron, Boris and May could have shut down immigration but chose to not only keep Blair’s policies but accelerated them.

So while Kier is a wanker of the first order, blaming him for the UK’s deterioration is somewhat unfair. The damage was done long before he got there.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 10:24 AM (3cXW4)

138 My vote for Worst PM Evar remains Lord Asquith 1908-16. He lost state secrets while fooling around with his mistress. Oh and cracking good job keeping Blighty out of the Continental dustup.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 10:24 AM (tL5sl)

139 Well, it wasn't torture torture, public execution public execution.

Posted by: Whoopi at June 22, 2026 10:24 AM (Ov6Yl)

140 Quien es mas loco? Jennifer Newsom o Gwen Walz?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 22, 2026 10:25 AM (c3YdQ)

141 133 Here's the new PM, same as the old one.

He will at best be the next Gordon Brown, attempting to pick up the pieces after a much more visible PM predecessor.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:26 AM (Riz8t)

142 Looks like everyone’s forgotten about me. Whew.
— Zombie Frederick North

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 10:27 AM (77rzZ)

143 And I will do everything I can to ensure an orderly handover of power," he said.
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What a guy. I wonder what they have on him - that we can't already guess.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 10:27 AM (22ggK)

144 I suspect Starmer's departure will be the first of many leftists in Europe. The people have had enough of their nonsense.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:23 AM (Riz8t)

I don’t know… like our own LA and other ultra blue jurisdictions, voters matter very little. The next person up as determined by the machine will be just as bad, if not worse. Burnham appears worse than the queer

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 10:28 AM (+gA9j)

145 I really hate the art world. They promote this half ass insane artist but they call Andrew Wyeth kitsch and barely have any of his paintings hanging in museums.

I'm sure you can guess one of the main reasons.
Hint : it begins with a C and ends with a onservative.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:29 AM (GP8V/)

146 Justice Clarence Thomas: "The Second Amendment is not a second-class right."

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Hallelujah!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:30 AM (ndZc7)

147 I suspect Starmer's departure will be the first of many leftists in Europe. The people have had enough of their nonsense.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:23 AM (Riz8t)

I think you are wildly optimistic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 10:30 AM (PLxDd)

148 Pope Leo XIV is a wonderful man, but he is no economist

"It is important to resist the commodification of basic human needs. Food, water and healthcare cannot be subordinated to market considerations or geopolitical interests. Access to adequate food is a fundamental human right grounded in the dignity of every person."

Posted by: $XOM Shareholder at June 22, 2026 10:30 AM (2ap+5)

149 Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:26 AM (Riz8t)

He is going to be full speed to the Left, with maybe a coat of paint to try and fool people but I doubt even that.

The "meme" (approved lefty talking point) for the last two months in Britain is that The People were upset, not about Starmer and Labour being too left, but about not being Left enough fast enough and hard enough. The UK leftards are saying the people rejected Labour because they want "change". Basically Keir was too conservative.

They are hilarious. Britain will get it's change good and hard.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 10:31 AM (22ggK)

150 Now that he has some competition, we can argue about whether Chamberlain was the worst prime minister ever.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:14 AM (ndZc7)

No. Churchill was the worst ever.

Posted by: Prof. Ed Dutton at June 22, 2026 10:31 AM (T6aVk)

151 El Salvador annexed Colombia yesterday

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 10:31 AM (tL5sl)

152 137 Friendly reminder Keir didn’t decide to open the borders one day out of the blue in 2024 when he became PM. That was started in the late 90s by Tony Blair and continues into the 2000s through successive Labour governments.

Between 2010 and 2024 Conservatives ran the UK uninterrupted. Cameron, Boris and May could have shut down immigration but chose to not only keep Blair’s policies but accelerated them.

So while Kier is a wanker of the first order, blaming him for the UK’s deterioration is somewhat unfair. The damage was done long before he got there.

There is some truth in what you say, but he maintained extremely high levels of illegal immigration long after it was made very clear that the British people wanted it stopped. That is his real sin, along with the absolutely lunatic insistence on trying to prevent people from seeing or talking about the damage long after it was blindingly obvious.

https://tinyurl.com/yhw89fcw

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:31 AM (Riz8t)

153 I won't judge any historical figure that I haven't lived through. Historians are like economists and weathermen only more biased.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:31 AM (GP8V/)

154 I hear Alan Greenspan died.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 10:32 AM (77rzZ)

155 I won't judge any historical figure that I haven't lived through. Historians are like economists and weathermen only more biased.

Hitler and Stalin probably are misunderstood.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:33 AM (Riz8t)

156
"Republicans raise concerns over illegal aliens vote in California."

As Al Capp used to say, "We have met the enemy and they are us."

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 10:33 AM (Y8DZL)

157 So according to Pope Leo XIV, the Eighth Commandment is null and void and people can steal from grocery stores and supermarkets?

Also, what if you have no health for which to care?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 10:34 AM (T6aVk)

158 The UK could use an auto pen and better media. France needs to reach across the channel and slap their ass.

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 10:34 AM (IY9No)

159 It is important to resist the commodification of basic human needs. Food, water and healthcare cannot be subordinated to market considerations or geopolitical interests. Access to adequate food is a fundamental human right grounded in the dignity of every person."
Posted by: $XOM Shareholder at June 22, 2026 10:30 AM (2ap+5)

Ignorance is bliss regard to economics. Especially to a die hard socialist .

But I'm sure he's aware that millions of tonnage of food aid has been turned away because it's GMO or that other aid is stolen by the powers to be in the countries we are trying to aid.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:35 AM (GP8V/)

160 I hear Alan Greenspan died.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 10:32 AM (77rzZ)

It was only a matter of time once he married Andrea Mitchell.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 10:35 AM (dK+Kv)

161 Ken Cuccinelli Deploying Novel Strategy To Sink Abigail Spanberger’s Semi-Auto Gun Ban

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Didja see Spanberger busting a move on Juneteenth?

https://tinyurl.com/4c523kyz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:35 AM (ndZc7)

162 Yep, looks like Alan Greenspan won the death pool.

To be fair the man lived to be 100.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 10:35 AM (T6aVk)

163 Hitler and Stalin probably are misunderstood.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:33 AM (Riz8t)

Nah, the midwits had Hitler pegged early. It was high-IQ commies who found excuses for him until Barbarossa.
Stalin's crimes took longer to comprehend (or even to count) but they've come out too.
The damage Roosevelt did will probably not be fully appreciated until the US defaults on its debt. Then we get to live in "Logan's Run"

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 10:36 AM (tL5sl)

164 Hitler and Stalin probably are misunderstood.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:33 AM (Riz8t)

Like you did with my post.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:36 AM (GP8V/)

165 It's Starmer's tax policies that are the problem. And oh yeah he facilitated muslim rape gangs for a decade or more.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 10:36 AM (22ggK)

166 Didja see Spanberger busting a move on Juneteenth?

I saw that last night. The cringe has still not left my psyche.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:37 AM (Riz8t)

167 But I'm sure he's aware that millions of tonnage of food aid has been turned away because it's GMO or that other aid is stolen by the powers to be in the countries we are trying to aid.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:35 AM (GP8V/)

Which is funny because every morsel of food is GMO and has been for thousands of years.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 10:37 AM (T6aVk)

168 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. A mild 74 degrees here at Stately Poppins Manor. Hope it's lovely where you are.

I see the left has been given their new talking points WRT World Cup Europeans loving America:

"Sure, they love America, because it sucks for you that the games are all in the blue state cities you hicks call shitholes. They'll play in Alabama, but not Texas! Suck it MAGAts!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 22, 2026 10:38 AM (qRla/)

169 I was in the UK, in 1997, 1999, 2003, 2007 and 2019. I saw the demise each time starting in 2003 and got worse and worse each time. London of the late 90s was abso-fucking-lutely amazing. The vibe was great.

Once Blair’s new and improved demographic changes started the shift was sudden and in your face. Women in Burkas in Hyde Park. What the fuck is all that bout? The subway/tube populated by shall we say not very desirable looking yuuuuthes.By 2019 the city was unrecognizable to me. And I can only fathom what’s it like now, 7 years later.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 10:38 AM (3cXW4)

170 Debating whether Hitler or Stalin was worse is like debating whether you’d rather be drawn and quartered or burned at the stake.

I vote adamantly: NEITHER!!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 10:39 AM (yz/88)

171 polynikes, I understood "I won't judge any historical figure that I haven't lived through" just fine. I just figured it was unusually silly from you, because your posts are tend better. Unless there was some irony hiding deep down in there.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 10:39 AM (tL5sl)

172 As Al Capp used to say, "We have met the enemy and they are us."

That was Walt Kelly.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 22, 2026 10:39 AM (qRla/)

173 Sure, they love America, because it sucks for you that the games are all in the blue state cities you hicks call shitholes. They'll play in Alabama, but not Texas! Suck it MAGAts!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 22, 2026 10:38 AM (qRla/

When did Dallas and Houston secede from Texas?

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:40 AM (GP8V/)

174 Debating whether Hitler or Stalin was worse is like debating whether you’d rather be drawn and quartered or burned at the stake.

Hitler had the most explosive power, but Stalin had staying power.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:40 AM (Riz8t)

175 Didja see Spanberger busting a move on Juneteenth?

I saw that last night. The cringe has still not left my psyche.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:37 AM (Riz8t)

CIA Barbie was dancing in public?? Was it worse than Elaine Benes and the little kicks?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 10:40 AM (yz/88)

176 Looks like I’m going to the TX MoMe this year.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 10:40 AM (77rzZ)

177 Fool on the Hill, Girl by the Window...

Samey same.

Evokes sadness.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 10:40 AM (nptZK)

178 >>>Yep, looks like Alan Greenspan won the death pool.

To be fair the man lived to be 100.

Posted by: Cow Demon

>Don't these things come in triplets? So who are the next two?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 10:40 AM (fkjGs)

179 CIA Barbie was dancing in public?? Was it worse than Elaine Benes and the little kicks?

I...don't want to talk about it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:41 AM (Riz8t)

180 Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 10:39 AM (tL5sl)

It was snark with some truth in it. How do you think historians 75 years from now are going portray Trump and Obama?

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:42 AM (GP8V/)

181 Walz Approval Craters Below Trump in Minnesota

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Waltzing Mohammed, waltzing Mohammed
Who'll come awaltzing Mohammed with me?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:42 AM (ndZc7)

182 180.

With shadow puppets on rubble.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 10:43 AM (nptZK)

183 >>>CIA Barbie was dancing in public?? Was it worse than Elaine Benes and the little kicks?

That ain't dancing, Sally.

Posted by: Kramer at June 22, 2026 10:43 AM (dK+Kv)

184 Bulg, you might want to consult me.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 10:43 AM (afJtY)

185 Words fail me.

Addressing the media in front of No 10, Sir Keir listed his achievements in office and in opposition, saying he had “changed our party” by tackling anti-Semitism and “restoring trust in the economy, defence, and national security”.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 10:44 AM (Riz8t)

186 Greenspan not only lived to be 100, but with Parkinson’s. That has to be a record for that disease.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 22, 2026 10:44 AM (SP9pb)

187 A little too blurry to be a good painting.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 10:44 AM (1z8ji)

188 I don't think polynikes was being that literal. I mean the one I saw was an extremely literal interpretation of the point being made.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 10:44 AM (22ggK)

189 Polynikes, you have a point. A lot of what we “know” about the “bad” Roman Emperors, for example, was written by historians from rival political factions.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 10:45 AM (77rzZ)

190 irony is hard here.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 10:45 AM (tL5sl)

191 It is important to resist the commodification of basic human needs. Food, water and healthcare cannot be subordinated to market considerations or geopolitical interests. Access to adequate food is a fundamental human right grounded in the dignity of every person.

There is no right which requires the labor of others.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 10:46 AM (ExV1e)

192 191.

If a "right" has business hours, it ain't a right.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 10:47 AM (nptZK)

193 189 Polynikes, you have a point. A lot of what we “know” about the “bad” Roman Emperors, for example, was written by historians from rival political factions.
Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 10:45 AM (77rzZ)

In that sense all history, or accounts generally are suspect.

Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 10:47 AM (Gqar8)

194 Patel has indicted Comey

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 10:47 AM (tL5sl)

195 Exclusive — Leading UN Secretary General Candidate Macky Sall Backs ‘Peace Builder’ Donald Trump’s Push for Reforms: ‘Make the UN Great Again’

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MUNGA?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:47 AM (ndZc7)

196 Words matter. Let us not toss the term "wanker" about in a flaccid manner.

Posted by: Jeffrey T. and Harvey W. at June 22, 2026 10:47 AM (0sNs1)

197 There is no right which requires the labor of others.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 10:46 AM (ExV1e)

A fair and speedy trial requires labor from others.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 10:48 AM (22ggK)

198 165 It's Starmer's tax policies that are the problem. And oh yeah he facilitated muslim rape gangs for a decade or more.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 10:36 AM (22ggK)

LOTS of people are to blame for that sadly. Worse, none of them are in prison.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 10:48 AM (T6aVk)

199 Rumor has it that Alan Greenspan was able to prolong his life by replacing his blood with ink from the US Mint.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 10:48 AM (nptZK)

200 In that sense all history, or accounts generally are suspect.
Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 10:47 AM (Gqar8

See the Spanish Civil War where it seems it is an exception where the losers wrote the history.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:49 AM (GP8V/)

201 Words fail me.

Addressing the media in front of No 10, Sir Keir listed his achievements in office and in opposition, saying he had “changed our party” by tackling anti-Semitism and “restoring trust in the economy, defence, and national security”.
Posted by: Archimedes

And I'm Miss America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:49 AM (ndZc7)

202 In that sense all history, or accounts generally are suspect.
Posted by: tubal at June 22, 2026 10:47 AM (Gqar

No history exists without bias at some level. What’s that they say? History is written by the victors?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 10:49 AM (T6aVk)

203 Patel has indicted Comey

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 10:47 AM (tL5sl)

Patel is head of the FBI, not DOJ.

Posted by: Kramer at June 22, 2026 10:50 AM (dK+Kv)

204 They'll play in Alabama, but not Texas!

The just consequences of not having a fiddle in the band.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 10:50 AM (0sNs1)

205 Patel has indicted Comey

Posted by: gKWVE

Ham sandwich, etc. Get back to me when there's a conviction with a serious sentence.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 22, 2026 10:50 AM (OUMaO)

206 >>>It is important to resist the commodification of basic human needs. Food, water and healthcare cannot be subordinated to market considerations or geopolitical interests. Access to adequate food is a fundamental human right grounded in the dignity of every person.

>Jibber-Jabber. I'd just like to say one thing, 'I go poo-poo.'

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 10:50 AM (fkjGs)

207 If food were free, soon there would be very little. The only way this "works" is to force third parties to pay for the food at gunpoint.

Posted by: $XOM Shareholder at June 22, 2026 10:52 AM (2ap+5)

208 Queer Starmer is going to be everywhere now. That is a turd that will not be flushed. He's their Hillary.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 10:52 AM (nptZK)

209 Do “Anti-LGBTQ+” Policies Worsen Mental Health?

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[Pretends to sneeze] Bullshit!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:53 AM (ndZc7)

210 Checkin' to see if her 'back door man' made it past her husband at the front door …

Posted by: Dr_No at June 22, 2026 10:53 AM (ayRl+)

211 And I'm Miss America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:49 AM (ndZc7

What did you do for the talent competition? but I would prefer not to see you in your evening dress.😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 10:53 AM (2qvfF)

212
"For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, If any will not work, neither let him eat."
-- 2 Thessalonians 3:10

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 10:54 AM (0sNs1)

213 Do “Anti-LGBTQ+” Policies Worsen Mental Health?

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[Pretends to sneeze] Bullshit!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All W

Anything not pro LGBTQ is anti LGBTQ. That's a mental health issue in itself.

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:55 AM (GP8V/)

214 Very late to the Art. Is the caption “Trump shoulda listened to me about Iran”?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher, phoning it in at June 22, 2026 10:55 AM (E3CZG)

215 And I'm Miss America."

Nice.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 10:55 AM (cGjQu)

216 It's sadly amusing that everything short of actually being gay is now seen as anti-Deviant hate crime.

I was assured this was not the goal.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 10:56 AM (nptZK)

217 Rage Against the Machine’s Tom Morello: Artists Who Are Apolitical or Stay Silent on Politics Should Go to an ‘Extra Hot Layer of Hell’

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If we adopt your commie policies, we'll be in an extra hot level of Hel,

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:56 AM (ndZc7)

218 And I'm Miss America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:49 AM (ndZc7

What did you do for the talent competition? but I would prefer not to see you in your evening dress.😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 10:53 AM (2qvfF)
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*draws the Veil of Good Taste over the swimsuit competition*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 10:57 AM (amcLV)

219 Queer Starmer is going to be everywhere now. That is a turd that will not be flushed. He's their Hillary.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 10:52 AM (nptZK)

Not so sure. Leaving in disgrace, I expect he will take his payoff and be memory holed.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 10:58 AM (22ggK)

220 And I'm Miss America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:49 AM

What did you do for the talent portion of the competition?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 10:58 AM (0sNs1)

221 It's sadly amusing that everything short of actually being gay is now seen as anti-Deviant hate crime.

I was assured this was not the goal.

Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 10:56 AM (nptZK)

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 10:58 AM (dK+Kv)

222 Is the caption “Trump shoulda listened to me about Iran”?"

Gersnort. Guffaw.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 10:58 AM (cGjQu)

223 See the Spanish Civil War where it seems it is an exception where the losers wrote the history.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 10:49 AM (GP8V/)
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Ahem.

Posted by: The Southern Historical Society at June 22, 2026 10:59 AM (amcLV)

224 but I would prefer not to see you in your evening dress.😉"

"Evening Wear"

"Very nice"

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 10:59 AM (cGjQu)

225 You fell victim to one of the classic blunders.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 10:58 AM (dK+Kv)

Heh

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 10:59 AM (22ggK)

226 age Against the Machine’s Tom Morello: Artists Who Are Apolitical or Stay Silent on Politics Should Go to an ‘Extra Hot Layer of Hell’

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If we adopt your commie policies, we'll be in an extra hot level of Hel,

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:56 AM (ndZc7)

I hear that rant in the style of RATM.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 10:59 AM (dK+Kv)

227 I think they're called F950,000s now.

https://shorturl.at/DK8gb

Posted by: Lady Who Steals Links at June 22, 2026 10:16 AM
$$$$
That was cute.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 10:21 AM (Ov6Yl)

***

That guy has a series of vids. He's hilarious!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 10:59 AM (2WIwB)

228 180 It was snark with some truth in it. How do you think historians 75 years from now are going portray Trump and Obama?

trump: orangemanbad
obama: trend-setting architect

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 11:00 AM (sGtp+)

229 Tom Morello and Bruce Springsteen walk into a bar and order a couple of drinks. The bartender says ' sit down and let me tell you my political policies and I'll get your drinks when I'm finished'

Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:00 AM (GP8V/)

230 It's sadly amusing that everything short of actually being gay is now seen as anti-Deviant hate crime.
I was assured this was not the goal.
Posted by: sifty boones of strawberry hill at June 22, 2026 10:56 AM (nptZK)

It was always and is always the goal of homos, fags and queer baits to make you approve of their being homos, fags and queer baits.

Plus to join in when necessary.Just the tip.

Posted by: Now Everybody Is Gay at June 22, 2026 11:00 AM (g7saB)

231 >>>"It is important to resist the commodification of basic human needs. Food, water and healthcare cannot be subordinated to market considerations or geopolitical interests. Access to adequate food is a fundamental human right grounded in the dignity of every person."

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 11:00 AM (dK+Kv)

232 217 Rage Against the Machine’s Tom Morello: Artists Who Are Apolitical or Stay Silent on Politics Should Go to an ‘Extra Hot Layer of Hell’

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If we adopt your commie policies, we'll be in an extra hot level of Hel,
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 22, 2026 10:56 AM (ndZc7)

When Mr. Morello divides up his wealth and peels off a check to every single American evenly, and does so willingly, I MIGHT hear his Communist bullshit. Until then, he and his band mates are hypocrites of the highest order.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 11:01 AM (T6aVk)

233 New one:

MORNING RANT: The Iran Situation and Trump’s MOU – What Constitutes “Finishing the Job” After the Lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 11:01 AM (Riz8t)

234 229 Tom Morello and Bruce Springsteen walk into a bar and order a couple of drinks. The bartender says ' sit down and let me tell you my political policies and I'll get your drinks when I'm finished'
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2026 11:00 AM (GP8V/)

=======

Brilliant!

Posted by: $XOM Shareholder at June 22, 2026 11:01 AM (2ap+5)

235 Nood

Posted by: Cosda at June 22, 2026 11:01 AM (ibZ/e)

236 174 Hitler had the most explosive power, but Stalin had staying power.

it's funny because stalin had nukes

Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2026 11:02 AM (sGtp+)

237 Morello: "when people say that musicians should not be involved in politics, it means they are people that disagree with your politics."
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I think musicians should not be involved in politics, not because I disagree with any of them, but because they are imbeciles.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 11:04 AM (22ggK)

238
The Art Institute of Chicago
February 5, 2024
Edvard Munch painted "The Girl by the Window" in 1893, the same year as his most famous work, "The Scream."
In the dead of night, a young girl in her nightgown stands in a darkened room gazing out at the city. Somber tones mingle with violets and blues, evoking a feeling of melancholy. The sense of mystery is deepened by the fact that we cannot see the expression on the girl’s face, nor do we know what she secretly observes.
See "The Girl by the Window" by Edvard Munch in Gallery 245.

It's famous, it's ok (nice calm colors), and I might hang a reproduction in a young girl's room if I were so decorating sometime back.

Thank you.
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The Horde is frisky for a Monday AM, but not a mention of boobs! 😉 Can't wait to see what the day holds.

(Mea culpa for appearing really late. The old mind was caught up in the beefy Morning Report.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 11:14 AM (NFX2v)

239 obviously she heard someone screaming outside.

Posted by: epador at June 22, 2026 11:23 AM (TRnzq)

240 The light represented on the floor is a fail. It would never be so sqarely sqare. It would never have the center woodwork projected onto the floor diagrammatically. I appreciate semi-representational art, but the artlessness here makes me want to scream.

Posted by: Lester Fahrner at June 22, 2026 11:30 AM (9Ftvz)

241 Does your site have a contact page? I'm having trouble locating it but, I'd like to send you an email.
I've got some recommendations for your blog you might be interested in hearing.

Either way, great site and I look forward to seeing it improve over time.

Posted by: Paito HK at June 22, 2026 02:19 PM (i4Msb)

The Morning Report — 6/ 22 /26

HORMUZ-JACKET.jpg

Good morning kids. Well the big story breaking late or early depending which side of the pond you're on is that Keir Starmer has decided to call it quits as England's Prime Minister.

Sir Keir Starmer choked up as he announced his resignation as UK Prime Minister Monday – less than 2 years after the Labour Party stormed to a landslide general election win.
Starmer, 63, set out a timetable to stand down after coming under mounting pressure following last month’s local elections, where the governing Labour Party lost over 1,000 seats.

The Prime Minister announced his intention to step down after admitting the Labour Party was questioning whether he could lead it into the next general election, which must be held before July 2029, just 23 months after leading his party to a landslide win. 

“I have heard the answer of my parliamentary party to that question, and I accept that answer with good grace,” Starmer said outside 10 Downing Street in London.

Every decision I’ve taken has been about putting the country I love first. That is why I will resign as leader of the Labour Party. I have spoken to His Majesty the King this morning to inform him of my decision.”


While I'm no expert, to say the least, on British politics but no doubt that one of the things that has led to Starmer's departure is the growing scandal of the Muslim rape crisis that has come to light especially over the last year or so. But shockingly Muslim men have been raping non-Muslim women and girls for decades!

This is something that’s also totally missed by the report’s focus on Islam as the main driving force behind the grooming: Pakistani Muslim men raping white British girls because they aren’t Muslim. In many cases, the Muslim identity of the men appears to be incidental to the grooming, and the kinship networks like the Kashmiri birādarī system that structure it predate conversion to Islam by centuries. Yes, some groomers do refer to the girls as kuffār—non-believers—and the justification is that of the wretched Quran verse “What the right hand possesses,” which says Muslim men can take sex slaves from among kuffār women, but it seems to be kinship, rather than religion, that gives these crimes their systematic and persistent character. Ultimately, though, this remains to be explored properly.

Rape is not a one-off crime committed here and there but it is a documented tool of warfare used by Muslims to conquer and subjugate nations and people once Islam becomes a dominant force politically and/or demographically aided and abetted by a cowed and submissive indigenous populace that refuses to defend itself from invasion and conquest, and as is the case of Britain and much of western Europe brought it willingly upon themselves for myriad cultural and historic reasons.

While Starmer is gone, is there really a chance that the English people will recognize the mortal danger they placed themselves in by allowing the socialists to rule essentially unchecked since the end of the Second World War, Churchill's sunset years and Maggie Thatcher notwithstanding.

The uprising in Belfast over the attempted public beheading of a man in broad daylight certainly gives one hope that people are indeed waking up at long last. Still, I'm hesitant to predict a sea change over there, knowing full well that despite being mugged by reality, Leftists/Democrats will lather rinse and repeat and continue to vote for their own destruction. Of course the societal and political pressure imposed by the globalist/political media cultural complex to bend the knee and surrender cannot be underestimated either. And in the UK there is now an official censorship regime where one can be hauled off and prosecuted for uttering anything critical against Islam, let alone even silently praying in front of an abortion mill.

And elsewhere the beat goes on with the Iran negotiations. Some are hailing Trump and Vance as brilliant masters of 11-dimension chess. . .


Regardless of the naysayers, neoconservatives, and progressive leftist shills using social and mainstream media to portray America as weak for the thousandth time, President Trump's Iran deal and the communication of the deal by Vice President JD Vance has been a masterclass in geopolitics and media dexterity. President Trump's preliminary MOU with Iran took pressure, pragmatism, forceful language, and a militaristic strategy to secure, but it was all worth it. The priority of using peace through strength, the ever-powerful Trumpist foreign policy mantra, proved yet again that President Trump is the best negotiator in modern American or world politics.

Using bombs to force conversation is certainly an option, but it ended up being the best solution for all sides of the war in Iran. While Obama's Iran deal funded radical Islamic terrorism and the spreading of Sharia Law throughout the globe, Trump's deal utilized tariffs, bombs, and blockades to bring Iran up the ramp and into 12 rounds with the 45th and 47th President of the United States.

. . . Sounds great, but others are claiming they've both been taken to the cleaners.

Trump Coulda Been a Contender -- The destruction of a legacy. . .

It’s one of the most justly celebrated moments in cinematic history. In Elia Kazan’s classic movie On the Waterfront (1954), the failed boxer Terry Malloy (Marlon Brando), who was forced to take a dive during the bout that could have established him as a possible challenger for the championship belt, says to his brother, who was in on the fix: “I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am.”

I was going to make the subtitle to this article “Instead of a bum which is what he is,” but it was just too painful. Trump isn’t a bum, and maybe, just maybe, he will eventually right the ship and get on with the business of making America great again. But showering billions on a regime whose leaders routinely scream “Death to America,” and pretending that the evil men who now control that regime are rational people with whom America can do business — that’s the behavior of one of the America-Lasters who has governed this unhappy land in recent decades, not that of the visionary who promised to take on and defeat those who were selling out our interests.

A number of good essays in the links that illustrate both sides of the argument. So, as the President himself is fond of saying, we'll just have to wait and see.

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1 Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 22, 2026 07:25 AM (qZb7K)

2 Morning, all!

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 07:26 AM (RjOoY)

3 I nood'd

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 22, 2026 07:26 AM (qZb7K)

4 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 07:28 AM (jehhT)

5 Islam is incompatible with Western civilization.

Posted by: Paul enjoys sex with his dog at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (rUxRB)

6 Trailblazing Trans Lawmaker Sentenced To Over 33 Years For Child Exploitation

Oh wow. The Thing That Never Happens is Happening Again.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (RjOoY)

7 “You close it and you won’t have a country,” Trump said he told Iranian officials, according to Yingst. “You won’t even make it back to your f*cking country.”
‘You Close It And You Won’t Have A Country’: Trump Reportedly Says US Could Become ‘Guardian Angel’ Of Strait Of Hormuz"


What do you mean "become"? We have been Team America World police there since the 1970s.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (0N4FZ)

8 Good morning again dear horde and happy birthday Mr. JJ

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (mWKAz)

9 I trust Trump on the Iran deal far more than establishment critics. Time will indeed tell. Trump has had to deal with Iran constrained by the war-powers act, so has to take them down piecemeal.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 22, 2026 07:32 AM (1VZmA)

10 I think the last few days have made clear the Iran debacle has gone completely off the rails.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:34 AM (mWKAz)

11 As a life long Republican and long time commentator, Trump is a poopy head.

Posted by: A life long Republican and long time commentator at June 22, 2026 07:34 AM (vFG9F)

12 He can't even paint a pool right.

Posted by: A life long Republican and long time commentator at June 22, 2026 07:35 AM (vFG9F)

13 This weekend was the greatest foreign policy disaster in all of American history, JD Vance
spent the entire weekend acting like a sad little monkey on a chain, dancing furiously while a laughing Iranian organ grinder played a crazy tune.

Money is already, today, flowing in to Iran from China, Russia, Pakistan, Qatar, and Turkey. The plan to put Iran under economic pressure has collapsed completely.

This is no plan. This is complete and total failure.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:35 AM (nuNhM)

14 Trump’s approach to Iran has been good overall, but marred IMHO by some recent missteps; namely, the MOU is imperfect to say the least and he’s made so many threats that didn’t materialize they’re beginning to ring hollow.

We severely degraded their military and killed leaders - GOOD

Long fruitless negotiations with hollow threats - Not so good

Yeah, we’ll have to wait and see…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 07:35 AM (+gA9j)

15 They don't fight to win advantage, political leverage, even regional hegemony.

They fight to kill.

So by all means, let's continue to ignore their straight-up eliminationist policy.

They think they won. They are not defeated.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:37 AM (mWKAz)

16 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2026 07:38 AM (kpbTM)

17 (Yesterday) Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian: “What is certain is that we will never give up our right to enrich uranium, and the other side will have no choice but to accept this. In the past, they demanded that Iran's missiles also be part of the negotiations, but now they say that just as other countries have missiles, Iran should also have the right to possess ballistic missiles. The rules of the game have changed.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:38 AM (nuNhM)

18 This will be the end of Trump. Boy, they've got him now!

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2026 07:38 AM (vFG9F)

19
Susan Rice popped up this weekend to say the Trump handling of Iran has been a complete failure, which should encourage you all otherwise.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 07:40 AM (Y8DZL)

20 President Trump has shit the bed in regards to Iran.

Go big or go home, but he shit the bed instead, only delaying that which needs to be done. Hopefully he recovers but the bed has been shitted.

Posted by: Clean Sheets Are Needed at June 22, 2026 07:40 AM (g7saB)

21 Every decision I’ve taken has been about putting the country I love first. "

Too bad that wasn't Britain, bunky.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:41 AM (XuXeR)

22 "Susan Rice popped up this weekend to say the Trump handling of Iran has been a complete failure, which should encourage you all otherwise.
Posted by: Auspex"

I'm just disappointed that Rob Reiner is no longer around to give his input.

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2026 07:42 AM (vFG9F)

23 Susan Rice popped up this weekend to say the Trump handling of Iran has been a complete failure, which should encourage you all otherwise"

Hey, how can we be negative 24/7 with that sort of attitude?

/

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (XuXeR)

24 France will block any attempt to remove UN Security Council sanctions on Iran unless future nuclear negotiations satisfy French requirements and address concerns over Tehran’s missile program and regional proxy groups....

When France says “whoa, slow down , you’re surrendering too fast!” you know you’re in trouble.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (nuNhM)

25 Trump loves to negotiate. Over anything. Everything. All the time. This back and forth is going to continue for quite a while.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (jehhT)

26 >Trump has reshaped the Republican Party into a disciplined political machine,

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really?

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (15Vi2)

27 This is why people getting excited about Starmer being driven out is misplaced.

No Labour PM will be better, and in this case might be far worse because of the perception that the rape gang scandal is behind them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (PLxDd)

28 Willowed from Pixy:

The UK is gone, it doesn’t matter who is PM. Even Nigel Farage couldn’t fix it; certainly none of their political class can… they’re all clones. This Burnham guy is another Starmer, perhaps less wooden. No Thatcher out there to save the day… kinda sad but their voters have been digging this hole for decades. The numb skulls threw out Churchill after WWII and it’s been generally downhill since with only the respite from Thatcher applying some brakes on the downhill

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (yz/88)

29 As a life long Republican and long time commentator, Trump is a poopy head."

You left out "conserving conservative"

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:44 AM (XuXeR)

30 The UK is gone, "

Never was. Only in imagination.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:45 AM (XuXeR)

31 On some level, I cannot bring myself to believe Europe--England and Germany, Belgium, France, Sweden, Belgium--can possibly fall.

But Eastern Europe fell to Communism for generations. The entire Middle East was once Christian. The city of Constantine was overrun by Muslims and became Istanbul, the Hagia Sophia a mosque.

It can happen, it is happening, and if Europeans do not convulse violently enough to shake off this predator, the same thing will happen.

Meanwhile, in Dearborn, . . .

Posted by: Smallish Bees at June 22, 2026 07:45 AM (xKjWc)

32 “ He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”

Matthew 17:20

Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2026 07:47 AM (oIl0H)

33 It can happen, it is happening"

And always will happen. What most of us think as "normal " is an oddity in human history...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:47 AM (XuXeR)

34 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 07:47 AM (ExV1e)

35 Good again Horde thx JJ.
Willowed : Alan Greenspan is mort. Andrea Mitchell is available.
Keir Starmer resigns.
Who amongst the famous will resign or die to make it three?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 07:48 AM (Iurxt)

36 As a life long Republican and long time commentator, Trump is a poopy head.
Posted by: A life long Republican and long time commentator at June 22, 2026 07:34 AM (vFG9F)

Get it correct, please. He's a poopy mcpoopyhead!

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 22, 2026 07:49 AM (zBgIx)

37 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Inogame at June 22, 2026 07:50 AM (53oGX)

38 Seems to me like the Left waited until Burnham was in to force Starmer out. Burnham is the next leftard chosen one. UK is fucked. Getting rid of Starmer is window dressing because of the reaction from the voters, to try and save the party but probably even moreso to drag the country further left.

UK is done done done. Burnham will be worse and more leftist (if that's possible) by a lot.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 07:51 AM (22ggK)

39 Starmer to be replaced by Burnham? Even worse.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 07:52 AM (EAwQ9)

40 Iranian PM Ghalibaf on Trump’s threats to restart the war:
“Don't they think to themselves that, if their threats had worked, they wouldn't have reached the desperation they face today? We don't take the Americans' threats into account.
They'd better watch their statements; our armed forces are ready to respond in another way. No matter how much they talk, it's we who take action.”

Iran is openly declaring that they are going to do any damn thing they want to, and that Trump won’t have the nerve to do anything about it. Money is already flowing in; arms are flowing in; supplies are flowing in. And oil is flowing out, all restrictions dropped already.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:52 AM (nuNhM)

41 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 07:53 AM (2YhKe)

42 A number of good essays in the links that illustrate both sides of the argument.

So much ink spilled on a matter about which none of the authors knows more than we.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 07:54 AM (ExV1e)

43 Every decision I’ve taken has been about putting the country I love first. That is why I will resign as leader of the Labour Party. I have spoken to His Majesty the King this morning to inform him of my decision.”


And he goes out a lying sack of shit.

EVERYTHING he did was at the detriment to the people and he's responsible for thousands of rapes and murders.

F*ck you, Kweir Starmer. I hope the people can now sue you for what you've done.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 07:54 AM (2YhKe)

44 First, eliminate the fraud in the system, which is estimated at between $200 billion and $500 billion per year.

I have to assume that those estimates were made prior to the fraud starting to be uncovered. In a $7T budget, I'd guess that at least $4T of it is fraud.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 07:58 AM (ExV1e)

45 Does the UK government just swap out politicians when they fall out of favor?

It seems like a cabal of retards over there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 07:58 AM (jehhT)

46 So much ink spilled on a matter about which none of the authors knows more than we."

Sadly, too many fail to understand the value in shutting up...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:59 AM (XuXeR)

47 To eliminate fraud in the system, you have to eliminate the system because fraud is the system.

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 22, 2026 07:59 AM (zBgIx)

48 Starmer is a murderous lying sack of crap. Good riddance

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 07:59 AM (Iurxt)

49 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 07:59 AM (sgkY8)

50 Morn'all.. So another day of Trump's a poopyhead surrenderer vs Trump is a genius...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:00 AM (HtIAP)

51 Read the content, now to the foreshadowing of one of the worst possible 'entertainment' choices ever made: Rosie "Bulldyke" O'Donnell as a stand-up comic to replace the unfunny Jimmy Kimmel. The show will be watched and loved by the trans community and by the hard core, braindead, leftists. There will be a few of we normies who will also watch a few times just to see how bad it is; like watching a train wreck.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 22, 2026 08:00 AM (JNTt1)

52 Starmer falling on a sword so his replacement can still let in the invasion rapists

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 08:01 AM (sgkY8)

53 does anyone outside the UK understand their system of government?

I don't

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:01 AM (15Vi2)

54 While I'm no expert, to say the least, on British politics but no doubt that one of the things that has led to Starmer's departure is the growing scandal of the Muslim rape crisis that has come to light especially over the last year or so. But shockingly Muslim men have been raping non-Muslim women and girls for decades!


But, the muslhams tell me this isn't true. Shame on you, JJ.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:03 AM (2YhKe)

55 So another day of Trump's a poopyhead surrenderer vs Trump is a genius..."

Or, you know, a politician. But hey, some have to complain. Constantly complain.
Every day.

*sigh*

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:03 AM (XuXeR)

56 What's a Keir?

Posted by: Most people at June 22, 2026 08:04 AM (Ov6Yl)

57 but it seems to be kinship, rather than religion, that gives these crimes their systematic and persistent character. Ultimately, though, this remains to be explored properly.


Ah. They're just looking for someone to cuddle with. That makes it all better........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:04 AM (2YhKe)

58
I thought the Heritage Foundation won their suit against Joey and that the Hur tapes were going to be released this morning.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 08:04 AM (Y8DZL)

59 Finally, we need to address the elephant in the room: funding Social Security and Medicare. Benefit cuts are off the table so the only solution is tax increases. I propose increasing the Medicare tax from 1.45 percent to 2 percent and the Social Security tax from 6.2 percent to 6.5 percent. In addition, I propose tripling the FICA maximum, currently at $184,750, with a new 7.5-percent crediting rate to preserve the defined benefit nature of the payouts. Implementing these increases would generate about $300 billion per year and keep these programs solvent through the end of the century.

God forbid that we should explore ways to end these programs. Just raise the taxes collected for them every so often until it eats up everything else.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 08:05 AM (ExV1e)

60 the Hur"

Ben?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:05 AM (XuXeR)

61 The uprising in Belfast over the attempted public beheading of a man in broad daylight certainly gives one hope that people are indeed waking up at long last. Still, I'm hesitant to predict a sea change over there, knowing full well that despite being mugged by reality, Leftists/Democrats will lather rinse and repeat and continue to vote for their own destruction.


One thing will happen in the near future. The people returning from the US and her World Cup hosting will demand barbecue and Buc-Ee's to be brought to the country.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:06 AM (2YhKe)

62 When does the SNAP program run out of money?

Posted by: I gotta ask at June 22, 2026 08:06 AM (Ov6Yl)

63
Why Trump took on Iran before the midterms is …..anybody’s guess. Puzzling to be sure.

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 22, 2026 08:06 AM (FCPbW)

64 38 Seems to me like the Left waited until Burnham was in to force Starmer out. Burnham is the next leftard chosen one. UK is fucked. Getting rid of Starmer is window dressing because of the reaction from the voters, to try and save the party but probably even moreso to drag the country further left.

UK is done done done. Burnham will be worse and more leftist (if that's possible) by a lot.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 07:51 AM (22ggK)

The Morning Rant has always been Eeyore Central.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:07 AM (T6aVk)

65 >So another day of Trump's a poopyhead surrenderer vs Trump is a genius..."
-----

Oh I quit trying to understand what he's doing re: Iran
I scroll right by all that Iran shit on X
SAVE Act posts too
no point

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:07 AM (15Vi2)

66 There's no need to watch Ben Hur on videotape.
We have newer technology now.

Posted by: Wait, wut? at June 22, 2026 08:08 AM (Ov6Yl)

67 Why Trump took on Iran before the midterms is …..anybody’s guess. Puzzling to be sure."

My guess is that there was a lot of DC panic, plus China was making noises. This has shut them up nicely.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:08 AM (XuXeR)

68 > When does the SNAP program run out of money?
---------
Never.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 08:08 AM (jehhT)

69 NFL training camps open next month

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:08 AM (15Vi2)

70 When does the SNAP program run out of money?"

Now that's funny.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:09 AM (XuXeR)

71 Tanned, rested and ready!

Posted by: Theresa May at June 22, 2026 08:09 AM (Ov6Yl)

72 On my computer, I have an article from Maclean’s on the Rotherham rape gangs.

From 2014.

It’s been going on for awhile.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:09 AM (T6aVk)

73 A number of good essays in the links that illustrate both sides of the argument. So, as the President himself is fond of saying, we'll just have to wait and see.


His main priority and forever stated goal was to not allow the Crimson Jihad become a nuclear power.

He's seemingly accomplished that. If they try again, he will bomb the shit out of them. However, the success of that will lean heavily on who becomes President of the US next.......

Because, yes, EVERYONE knows you can't trust Iran. Even the stupid poopyhead.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:09 AM (2YhKe)

74 thank you, JJ!

I'm'a just wait & see; no one gives a rat's ass about my opinion anyway.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2026 08:10 AM (VyBeY)

75 "NFL training camps open next month"

The nfl hates you but more importantly the hate ME. Not a single cent for those *&^^&&(*().

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 22, 2026 08:10 AM (zBgIx)

76 Sad but revealing - the arguments in favor of the administration’s actions this weekend consist only of “nuh-uh! Nuh-uh! Shut up! Shut up!”

There is no honest defense of the last 48 hours possible.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (nuNhM)

77 It’s been going on for awhile."

Att least those....affected were NQOSD...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (XuXeR)

78 “Sex worker” - because saying “whore” is

1) TOO HARD and
2) not nearly Marxist sounding enough.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (T6aVk)

79 Young RFK Jr looks EXACTLY like Alfred E Neuman

https://tinyurl.com/mr53sdct

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:12 AM (15Vi2)

80 “Sex worker” - because saying “whore” is

1) TOO HARD and
2) not nearly Marxist sounding enough.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (T6aVk)


And 'prostitute' got such a bad connotation during the 'Jack the Ripper' period.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:12 AM (2YhKe)

81
Sir Keir Starmer choked up as he announced his resignation as UK Prime Minister Monday – less than 2 years after the Labour Party stormed to a landslide general election win.

They didn't exactly "storm to a landslide". Their share of votes cast was scarcely different than 2019. They won more seats because Reform took what were usually Tory votes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (O0L8i)

82 I am no policy expert, but I know my president:

https://tinyurl.com/4jv72anf

Posted by: Danimal28 at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (3peS3)

83 God forbid that we should explore ways to end these programs. Just raise the taxes collected for them every so often until it eats up everything else.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 08:05 AM (ExV1e)

Sure, and to hell with people that have been forced to pay into this boondoggle for 50 years only to have the rug snatched from underneath them as they get ready to collect their "benefit"

Posted by: Polka will never die at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (TYCeo)

84 Young RFK Jr looks EXACTLY like Alfred E Neuman"

That's funny

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (XuXeR)

85 Anthropic’s most powerful artificial intelligence model reportedly breached ‘almost all’ US classified systems in a matter of hours, according to Senator Mark Warner, who says the head of the National Security Agency told him directly that the model had penetrated nearly every classified system it was tested against. The claim has not been publicly confirmed by any government agency.

Senator Mark Warner, vice-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said on 11 June that General Joshua Rudd, who leads both the NSA and the Pentagon’s Cyber Command, told him directly that Anthropic’s Mythos model ‘broke into almost all of our classified systems, not in weeks, but in hours.’ The extent of the alleged breach and which specific systems were affected have not been publicly disclosed. Anthropic did not respond to a request for comment.

The warning emerged alongside an abrupt move by the Trump administration to block foreign access to Anthropic’s two most advanced models, Mythos and Fable.

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (O7XEN)

86 The Telegraph: Iran walks out of peace talks after Trump outburst. US president threatens to restart his bombing campaign in expletive-laden phone calls and posts on social media

Ok, $500 billion and he gives the Ayatollah a hand job on tv, then. Whatever makes America a strong winner whom the world respects. 🙄

The biggest problem with this deal is not the deal, it is the dealer. Trump’s word is worthless. He could offer 1 trillion dollars and everyone gets a free Tesla. Whatever he signs is just going to get torn up when his feelings change.

Republicans know they're cooked the moment he croaks. Keeping the cult he fostered is going to be difficult without their god emperor at the helm

Thank goodness we don’t have an emotional woman as president, right everyone who voted for him?

bUt hEr lAuGh!!

Cut off a majority of the world’s fuel/fertilizer while inflaming centuries old conflicts in a already war torn area during the worst El Niño the world has ever seen?! What could go wrong?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (ycI94)

87 Another day of people with opinions. See y'all later.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (ExV1e)

88 NQOSD.
Had to look it up.
Learn something new every day in this place.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (Ov6Yl)

89 If anything, I know that I don’t have nearly enough intel on what is going on behind the scenes with Iran.

I probably will not live long enough to ever see that.

Knowing I don’t know everything going on, I will just observe happenings and shut up about that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:14 AM (T6aVk)

90 Young RFK Jr looks EXACTLY like Alfred E Neuman"

That's funny
Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (XuXeR)


That Neuman character seems to have gotten around a lot. Between he and Howdy Doody, there's a LOT out there that look like them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:14 AM (2YhKe)

91 It's getting fun watching the Dems come apart. Over the weekend you had the rally where Bernie and Mamdani et al went after the Dem party. Then you have Crockett crapping all over Talarico. There are also a lot of vids in X showing Dem Socialists taking shots at "toxic" Dem party. Add to that fights in the primaries and you have one big Dem mess. Of course the Republicans could screw up the opportunity.....

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 08:15 AM (Iurxt)

92 reportedly breached ‘almost all’ US classified systems in a matter of hours, according to Senator Mark Warner"

Reportedly is doing a lot of heavy lifting these days...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:15 AM (XuXeR)

93 18 This will be the end of Trump. Boy, they've got him now!
Posted by: fd

Are the WALLS CLOSING IN?! by now.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 08:15 AM (RjOoY)

94 Alan Greenspan, the influential economist who steered U.S. monetary policy during his five terms as chairman of the Federal Reserve under four presidents, died Monday, according to his wife, NBC News correspondent Andrea Mitchell.

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:16 AM (O7XEN)

95 Then you have Crockett crapping all over Talarico.


Anyone listening or paying attention to either one of those buffoons should be institutionalized as they're buttf*ck insane.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:16 AM (2YhKe)

96 It's getting fun watching the Dems come apart"

NO NO NO! WE MUST PANIC NOW.

Or something.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (XuXeR)

97 Burnham replacing Starmer is like Rosie O'Donnell replacing Kimmel.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (22ggK)

98 Three ‘Afghan Nationals’ Ram Speeding Pickup Truck Into Pakistan's Karachi Mosque, Injuring 30

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (O7XEN)

99 Alan Greenspan, the influential economist who steered U.S. monetary policy during his five terms as chairman of the Federal Reserve under four presidents, died Monday, according to his wife, NBC News correspondent Andrea Mitchell.
Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:16 AM (O7XEN)


Nosferatu no longer lives......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (2YhKe)

100 Are the WALLS CLOSING IN?! by now."

The wheels are closing in. Or the walls are falling off.
Either way, it's baaaad.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:18 AM (XuXeR)

101 Episcopal Church puts multimillion-dollar New York headquarters on the market

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:18 AM (O7XEN)

102 Finally: British Prime Minister Keir Starmer announces resignation

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:19 AM (O7XEN)

103 Ram Speeding Pickup Truck"

Ram or Hilux?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:19 AM (XuXeR)

104 Episcopal Church puts multimillion-dollar New York headquarters on the market
Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:18 AM (O7XEN)


New York would consider it a big win should Trump put Trump Tower up for sale. The state would actually buy it just so they could revel in the tearing down any signage with his name on it.

Now, they will never do anything other than house homeless in it, but the lost revenue will lead closer to complete bankruptcy. But they 'got Trump' so......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:20 AM (2YhKe)

105 *The wheels are closing in. Or the walls are falling off.
Either way, it's baaaad.*
---
And I'm circling the drain!

Posted by: The Fat Lady at June 22, 2026 08:20 AM (Ov6Yl)

106 So is the truck salvageable?

Posted by: Priorities people! at June 22, 2026 08:21 AM (Ov6Yl)

107 Ram Speeding Pickup Truck"

Ram or Hilux?
Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:19 AM (XuXeR)


If it's actually a Ram, seems the islhamic retards have learned irony.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:21 AM (2YhKe)

108 Burnham replacing Starmer is like Rosie O'Donnell replacing Kimmel.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (22ggK)


Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:22 AM (2YhKe)

109 Dodge pickup injures football club's mascot:

Ram rams Rams' ram

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:23 AM (15Vi2)

110 Alan Greenspan, the influential economist who steered U.S. monetary policy during his five terms as chairman of the Federal Reserve under four presidents, died Monday, according to his wife, NBC News correspondent Andrea Mitchell.
Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:16 AM

Well...bye.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2026 08:23 AM (zC76q)

111 So is the truck salvageable?
Posted by: Priorities people! at June 22, 2026 08:21 AM

No problem! It will be buffing right out!

- Ali Bubba, Khyber Pass Body Shop

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2026 08:25 AM (zC76q)

112 I don’t know whether we’re winning or losing with the Iran situation. I personally think it’s a mixed bag. I will say that I saw Bill Maher comment over the weekend that we’ve lost… and while I think Maher is a POS he’s actually a fairly honest broker ( astonishingly) and he favored the Iran action and wanted Trump to go farther… and Maher thinks at this moment at least that we’ve lost (too many hollow threats with no follow through)

That perception that we lost is out there and that’s not good. The Iranian bluster sure sounds like they think they won

I still want power plant day and Kharg island leveled…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (yz/88)

113 Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 08:15 AM (Iurxt)

I've been predicting a circus Dem primary in 2028. With big beats mostly scripted, like pro wrestling. I think they want attention on it to deliver their "message" and that's how they're gonna do it. With one clear winner emerging. Maybe someone serious who can "rise above" it, not sure on that yet. But the primary preferred winner is already known.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (22ggK)

114 "Why Trump took on Iran before the midterms is …..anybody’s guess. Puzzling to be sure."


To distract from the Epstein Files, of course!

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (Q+gd/)

115 Why Trump took on Iran before the midterms is …..anybody’s guess. Puzzling to be sure.
Posted by: Voter theater. at June 22, 2026 08:06 AM (FCPbW)
-----------------
Very.

I concluded Trump got some news that convinced him he should act, and Pistol Pete (or someone) convinced him he COULD act, and that a bombing campaign would be sufficient to convince the mullahs to make a deal.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (7EPvM)

116 Some of the fans at the US Open yesterday lacked class. It’s okay to root for your preferred player and cheer his good shots… but some fans were openly cheering for the ultimate winner’s shots to go into rough or bunkers and cheering when he hit bad shots… no class

On the last hole rather than cheer the guy in the lead as he approached the last green they sang happy birthday to the guy 4 shots back who had no way to win. BTW, I like Scottie Scheffler a lot and wish he would’ve won but he was out of contention at that point…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:28 AM (yz/88)

117 Some of the fans at the US Open yesterday lacked class. It’s okay to root for your preferred player and cheer his good shots… but some fans were openly cheering for the ultimate winner’s shots to go into rough or bunkers and cheering when he hit bad shots… no class

On the last hole rather than cheer the guy in the lead as he approached the last green they sang happy birthday to the guy 4 shots back who had no way to win. BTW, I like Scottie Scheffler a lot and wish he would’ve won but he was out of contention at that point…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:28 AM


Fans have been getting worse for years. People now feel that with the price of their entry fee, it's well within their right to act a fool and be as obnoxious as they want.

The Ryder Cup has become unwatchable with the obnoxiousness of the onlookers. On BOTH sides of the pond.

People just suck.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:30 AM (2YhKe)

118 Burnham replacing Starmer is like Rosie O'Donnell replacing Kimmel.
Posted by: ...

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Carl Benjamin was making the same point. He viewed the results as generally good for Restrore, bad for Reform, and while temporarily good for Labour, the reason Labour is unpopular because their fundamental beliefs and solutions to problems don't work. You can change the figurehead all you want, but until you change the core values and solutions, they're destined to fail.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (ycI94)

119 "You can’t take back the flag in an hour if the rest of the time you treat patriotism as something vaguely embarrassing."
Bill Maher Rips Into Dems, Kamala For Mocking Patriotism Until They Need Votes

--

'Dis be the same Bill Maher who endorses Graham Platner? Has he any awareness of this guy's sentiments and vile ideology as relates to patriotism for America?

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (qBdHI)

120
Well...bye.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2026 08:23 AM (zC76q)


May Andrea's sorrow take her away from her role in the media, permanently.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (2YhKe)

121 Episcopal Church puts multimillion-dollar New York headquarters on the market
Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:18 AM (O7XEN)
------------------------
Grok says the EC had 2.4 million members in 2000, and today is below 1.3 million, mostly composed of confused suburban leftists. The skin suit still has some incredibly wealthy churches though.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (fA9NW)

122 Some of the fans at the US Open yesterday lacked class. It’s okay to root for your preferred player and cheer his good shots… but some fans were openly cheering for the ultimate winner’s shots to go into rough or bunkers and cheering when he hit bad shots… no class

Tiger Woods! Tiger Woods! Tiger Woods!

Posted by: NBC Sports at June 22, 2026 08:32 AM (g7saB)

123 Ah! Mid-afternoon stovetop brewed cappuccino!

Opinions?

I've had a few.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (exwma)

124 Mornin’, All. A good Monday to everyone.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (77rzZ)

125 'Dis be the same Bill Maher who endorses Graham Platner? Has he any awareness of this guy's sentiments and vile ideology as relates to patriotism for America?
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (qBdHI)


Bill Maher is an asshole who huffs his own farts and feels he's the smartest human ever to live. He is NOT on your side. He would just as soon shoot you in the face than agree with you on most things.

He does a political talk show and does what he knows will keep people tuning in.

He's a full bore lefty communist.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (2YhKe)

126 Grok says a lot of things.

Posted by: So there's that at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (Ov6Yl)

127 It's just another Merlot Monday.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at June 22, 2026 08:34 AM (Ov6Yl)

128 Tiger Woods! Tiger Woods! Tiger Woods!
Posted by: NBC Sports at June 22, 2026 08:32 AM (g7saB)


Alas, his career seems to be finally over. The jackwagon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:34 AM (2YhKe)

129 The next British PM will be the eighth in 10 years, I think. That's rivaling the French Third Republic in terms of stability in the head of government.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 22, 2026 08:36 AM (y9ksN)

130 The next British PM will be the eighth in 10 years, I think. That's rivaling the French Third Republic in terms of stability in the head of government.
Posted by: Josephistan at June 22, 2026 08:36 AM (y9ksN)


And yet the people keep voting the same way over and over.

But this time......THIS next time will be DIFFERENT.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:37 AM (2YhKe)

131 > People just suck.
--------
Yup

Over the last couple years... probably from around the time *biden was installed through the first two years of Trump II, I've noticed a real uptick in bad behavior.

It's not being dealt with.... properly. Meaning no beat downs.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 08:37 AM (jehhT)

132 Sex worker” - because saying “whore” is

1) TOO HARD and
2) not nearly Marxist sounding enough.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (T6aVk)

Part of the push to make it legal.

And probably the politicians who started using it didn't want anyone horning in on their territory.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:38 AM (22ggK)

133 @113 definitely. A preview is the local and congressional races in blue cities. NYC (90m south of me) has a number of Dem Socialists trying to unseat Dem Congress critters because they're not radical enough. A few may win. It's fun to watch but the crazies will take NYS over the cliff quicker

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 08:38 AM (Iurxt)

134 That perception that we lost is out there and that’s not good. The Iranian bluster sure sounds like they think they won

I still want power plant day and Kharg island leveled…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (yz/8

In international politics, perception IS reality. Iran isn’t just talking like they won, they are acting like they won. Pictures circulating of thousands of posters put up in Tehran this weekend, offering $1000 (American) to any man who will volunteer to go to Lebanon and fight for Hezbollah. To be paid for with the money pouring in today.

Iran views the talk about blowing power plants as a giant bluff that Trump doesn’t have the nerve to carry out. They’ve called the bluff.

If there’s to be any hope of salvaging the situation, the US needs to order a massive wave of strikes right now. Sadly, all we see is Vance in Switzerland agreeing that Israel is committing genocide in Lebanon, just to make the Iranians happy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:39 AM (kmEMr)

135 Today Is National Onion Ring Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 08:41 AM (NpAcC)

136 I think there was a female PM who lasted a couple of weeks before quitting

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (15Vi2)

137 Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change. Didn’t happen. Gas increased 50%. Then he was stuck and had to make a “peace deal”.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (3cXW4)

138 *It's not being dealt with.... properly. Meaning no beat downs.*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 08:37 AM
###
You get what you tolerate.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (Ov6Yl)

139
If there’s to be any hope of salvaging the situation, the US needs to order a massive wave of strikes right now. Sadly, all we see is Vance in Switzerland agreeing that Israel is committing genocide in Lebanon, just to make the Iranians happy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:39 AM (kmEMr)


Yes, because the Iranians pulled one over on the stupid poopyhead and we're all just slaves to the Iranian regime.

How sad.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:43 AM (2YhKe)

140 I love onion rings.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 08:43 AM (77rzZ)

141 - Indoctrination

What indoctrination in the public schools preceded the rest of the leftist type, and the woke stuff, and ...

Why, that which denied evening, morning, number, day. Evening, morning, number, day...
And we are only going to show you the #science that "proves" this to be wrong.
And you will be so sure of the "knowledge" you have gained that you won't even take the time to look at any discoveries that go against #the science.

Once there, you can make His Word mean anything you want. Or, better yet, deny it altogether.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 22, 2026 08:43 AM (ev5l/)

142 136 I think there was a female PM who lasted a couple of weeks before quitting
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM
+++++++
Is this about me?

Posted by: Theresa May at June 22, 2026 08:44 AM (Ov6Yl)

143 Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change. Didn’t happen. Gas increased 50%. Then he was stuck and had to make a “peace deal”.
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (3cXW4)


He said he wanted them to give up their nukes. Period. He accomplished that by blowing the shit out of their nuke facilities. They will not be a nuclear power any time soon.

But we'll go ahead and call him a failure for not accomplishing things WE put as his goal that wasn't originally his goal......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:44 AM (2YhKe)

144 the Arby's here had great onion rings, but they disappeared from the menu for some reason

I've tried to make onion rings at home
they were not good

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:45 AM (15Vi2)

145 > AI May Actually Be Making Healthcare More Expensive

This is completely and totally predictable. Revelations from former career Pfizer executive is that drugs that quickly heal are dropped in favor of drugs that provide lifelong subscriptions. Cash flow, increasing quarterly returns.

There is also EMTALA and 100M+ foreigners and natives who lead lifestyles that require chronic care offering no means to pay.

The cultural expectations of Health Care Rights drive continued insurance as part of compensation.

There is no profit motive to make care more efficient for as long as a third party is paying. The only motive is to pump up margins and AI fits right in there.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 22, 2026 08:45 AM (a4flb)

146 I love onion rings.
Posted by: Bulg
_________

I hate onions, but will eat onion rings. Or pretty much anything else deep fried.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (XvL8K)

147 I've tried to make onion rings at home
they were not good
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:45 AM (15Vi2)


The batter is the most important part. A good batter, cooked at a perfect oil temp, is key.

The oil needs to be hot, but not too hot where the batter burns.

I never attempt it because I KNOW I won't get it right.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (2YhKe)

148
But we'll go ahead and call him a failure for not accomplishing things WE put as his goal that wasn't originally his goal......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:44 AM (2YhKe)

It's gonna be another on of those days I see... Sigh

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (HtIAP)

149 The UK situation is hopeless partly because of their system. In the last big election, Labour won a HUGE percentage of parliamentary seats (something like 125 seats beyond what they needed for a majority) and yet only garnered about 33% of the total votes. That’d be like a presidential candidate here winning the electoral college overwhelmingly with only 33% of the vote.

It’s not a good system. I mean yeah if you win 47% and get a parliamentary majority that’s fine… but 33%?? Not a mandate

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (yz/88)

150 I don't know, maybe I'm wrong
it's not unprecedented

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:47 AM (15Vi2)

151 He does a political talk show and does what he knows will keep people tuning in.

He's a full bore lefty communist.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (2YhKe)

This more than anything else is what pisses me off so much about what happened this weekend. Trump’s decisions over the last few days are making all the idiot lefty communists look as though they are right for once. Even though all they’re doing is saying what’s obvious to everyone, but everyone on our side is now too terrified to even talk about it. It’s giving them all a cheap and easy win for no reason.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:47 AM (kmEMr)

152 It is so interesting that hard core Democrats of my acquaintance hate Trump so much that they openly root for more attacks on Iran. Even invade (yeah, right, invade a country of 90 million death cultists).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (tNwfv)

153 It's gonna be another on of those days I see... Sigh
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (HtIAP)


Yeah, sorry.

I'll stop.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (2YhKe)

154 thought so

The shortest‑serving UK Prime Minister is Liz Truss, who held office for 49 days in 2022 before resigning.

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (15Vi2)

155 They're not public schools.
They're government schools.
Were they public, anyone could just walk in, sit down, and listen to what's being taught.
Shoot some hoops in the gym.
Check out a book from the library.
Try a meal in the cafeteria.
But you can't.
They're anything BUT open to the public.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (Ov6Yl)

156 Yeah, sorry.

I'll stop.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (2YhKe)

Not you.... The rest of the naysayers... You know... The Military experts here....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (HtIAP)

157 I love onion rings.
Posted by: Bulg
_________

I hate onions, but will eat onion rings. Or pretty much anything else deep fried.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (XvL8K)
******
I love onion rings more than I love french fries.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (NpAcC)

158 Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change.
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (3cXW4)
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What a load of BS.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (tNwfv)

159
Not you.... The rest of the naysayers... You know... The Military experts here....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (HtIAP)


My egging them on isn't helping.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:50 AM (2YhKe)

160 "A coronation looks to be looming for Andy Burnham as a major rival pulled out of the race to succeed Keir Starmer.

Wes Streeting declared he will not seek the top job, throwing his weight behind Mr Burnham in the wake of the PM's resignation.

The announcement makes it far more likely that the former Greater Manchester Mayor will be in No10 by this time next month. "

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 08:50 AM (GD0B3)

161 The oil needs to be hot, but not too hot where the batter burns.

I never attempt it because I KNOW I won't get it right.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (2YhKe)

Use lots of oil and a thermometer. The oil cools when you put the food in, so the more oil...the less cooling!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 08:50 AM (PLxDd)

162 It is worth remembering what Trump’s original stated goal in Iran was.
March 6, 2026, Truth Social post:

“ There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!” Following Tehran’s submission to the ongoing military campaign should be “the selection of a GREAT & ACCEPTABLE Leader(s),”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:51 AM (kmEMr)

163 He said he wanted them to give up their nukes. Period. He accomplished that by blowing the shit out of their nuke facilities. They will not be a nuclear power any time soon.

But we'll go ahead and call him a failure for not accomplishing things WE put as his goal that wasn't originally his goal......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:44 AM (2YhKe)

I thought we blew up their nuke capabilities last June. How many times can the same thing be blown up before it’s actually blown up?

Maybe we delayed it some, who knows. Nobody really does. We didn’t end it, that’s for sure.They will be back to doing what right we’re doing the second the ink is dry on the “peace deal”.

And regime change isn’t something WE said. He said it repeatedly. Remember his tweets to the Iranian people that he has their back? Don rewrite history man.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:51 AM (3cXW4)

164
My egging them on isn't helping.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:50 AM (2YhKe)

It's frustrating I know.. I try to not chime in because I'm as far away of an expert in this then you can be but sometimes the doom and gloom gets to me...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:51 AM (HtIAP)

165 So it's a food thread?

Posted by: Just got here at June 22, 2026 08:52 AM (Ov6Yl)

166 >>>Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change. Didn’t happen. Gas increased 50%. Then he was stuck and had to make a “peace deal”.

Posted by: Heroq

>I must say, your assessment of the situation is brilliant and you have me convinced. What shall we do?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 08:52 AM (fkjGs)

167 Trump is constrained by American domestic politics. He had to stop so the midterms can be contested and hopefully won. If he needs to return to Iran, I am sure he will (having done so repeatedly over his two terms).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:52 AM (tNwfv)

168 You know... The Military experts here....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (HtIAP)

True, but President Trump has not helped his case. He has not spoken to the American people and explained what he is doing and why he is doing it.

That leads to the chaotic analysis and a sort of fill-in-the-blank foreign policy, and that is a problem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (PLxDd)

169 SPORTSBRA!!!!

Go boobs!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (2YhKe)

170 Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change. Didn’t happen. Gas increased 50%. Then he was stuck and had to make a “peace deal”.
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (3cXW4)
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Give some thought to possibly being wrong.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (tNwfv)

171 Give some thought to possibly being wrong.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (tNwfv)



How DARE you!!??

Posted by: AoS Gretta at June 22, 2026 08:54 AM (2YhKe)

172 They're anything BUT open to the public.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (Ov6Yl)

Started happening after Columbine and really accelerated after that school shooting in Florida in 2017 (IIRC… the one where David Hogg heroically survived)…. At this point most schools are like fortresses. I went back to my old HS a few years ago in a tiny midwestern town and to my astonishment I couldn’t walk inside… had to be buzzed in by the main office. Security measures doncha know… I mean that tiny town is never gonna have a school shooting but it’s follow the leader amongst the edu-ma-cation class…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:55 AM (+gA9j)

173 There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!” Following Tehran’s submission to the ongoing military campaign should be “the selection of a GREAT & ACCEPTABLE Leader(s),”
Posted by: Tom Servo

—

Also most as if he wanted regime change.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:55 AM (3cXW4)

174 FFS.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (2YhKe)

175 Fresh oil will not make as good a ring as somewhat used oil.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (22ggK)

176 >>@TrumpWarRoom
·
5m
>>NEW: Vice President @JDVance
says the United States made significant progress in talks with Iran, building on the MOU:

>>- The Strait of Hormuz remains open
- Iran agreed to allow IAEA inspectors back into the country — a critical step toward ending its nuclear program
- New mechanism was established to help facilitate ceasefires during escalations
- Technical teams were formed to finalize the details over the next 60 days

>>"Yesterday was a very, very good day!"

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (viF8m)

177 True, but President Trump has not helped his case. He has not spoken to the American people and explained what he is doing and why he is doing it.

That leads to the chaotic analysis and a sort of fill-in-the-blank foreign policy, and that is a problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (PLxDd)

I see your point.. He could cut back on the bombast... Seems like Trump is the bad cop and Vance is the good cop...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (HtIAP)

178
>>"Yesterday was a very, very good day!"
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (viF8m)


They're lying. Everything is a failure and they should resign in disgrace.

Run Gavin. You're our only hope.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (2YhKe)

179 The Iran deal is either the best thing eva or the worst thing eva, depending what and who you read...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (l3cgK)

180 Glad I got back from town to read Tehran Tom's analysis.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (afJtY)

181 My wife used to make very good baked onion rings.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (77rzZ)

182 178
>>"Yesterday was a very, very good day!"
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (viF8m)


They're lying. Everything is a failure and they should resign in disgrace.

Run Gavin. You're our only hope.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (2YhKe)

He isn't the 'roid you're looking for...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (l3cgK)

183 "Seyed Abbas Araghchi
@araghchi
11h
Tireless Pakistani and Qatari mediation has delivered major progress to end Lebanon War. Oil and petrochem exports are waived, blockade lifted, some frozen assets released, and major reconstruction & development plan launched for Iran."

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (GD0B3)

184 Yes, because the Iranians pulled one over on the stupid poopyhead and we're all just slaves to the Iranian regime.

How sad.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:43 AM (2YhKe)

Serious question: do you have any argument beyond “nuh uh! Nuh uh!” ????

I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)

185 Good morning, everyone!

Someone I work with occasionally is on site today. She brought me a bag of homemade cookies - white chocolate macadamia - and they're AWESOME!!

She put a slice of bread in the bag. This is supposed to keep the cookies from drying out too quickly. I did not know this was a thing. Did any of you??

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (jDdwC)

186 there should be a batter recipe
anyway, I shit-canned my deep fryer because it was kind of a PITA to use and clean

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (15Vi2)

187 I miss Doof.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (2YhKe)

188 millennial Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.), said in 2019 that an entire generation “came of age and never saw American prosperity,” and then whined, “I have never seen that, or experienced it, really, in my adult life.”

~~ Andy Kessler
---------------------------

Maybe get productive work AOC, and you might become prosperous

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (gMz7B)

189 Kier needs to be run out of the country. The Henry Nowak case was the final nail in his coffin .
I hope the people in the UK are finally realizing that they have been invaded by Muslims who refuse to assimilate and want to take over Europe.

Next they need to get rid of the Muslim mayor of London, Sadiq Khan.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (NpAcC)

190 Heroq this is going to be one of those points you make over and over until the inevitable. I think your position is known.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (22ggK)

191 Sex Workers Visit Capitol Hill With a Message for Woke Congressional Staffers: The ‘Affordability Crisis’ Is Hard on Prostitutes, Too

I guess they'll have to charge more than $20, same as in town?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (l3cgK)

192 >>True, but President Trump has not helped his case. He has not spoken to the American people and explained what he is doing and why he is doing it.

>>That leads to the chaotic analysis and a sort of fill-in-the-blank foreign policy, and that is a problem.

We've had a lot of presidents who specialize in talking to the public and we ended up with mullahs in Iran threatening nuclear armaggedon and funding terrorists for 50 years. Now we have a president who is a businessman who likes to make deals. Most effective deals are not negotiated in public.

Besides, what would the seemingly endless supply of experts do with their time and pixels if they couldn't endlessly explain everything that guy said is bullshit and I know cause I'm an expert?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:01 AM (viF8m)

193 She put a slice of bread in the bag. This is supposed to keep the cookies from drying out too quickly. I did not know this was a thing. Did any of you??
Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (jDdwC)


Yes. First Lady has been doing this for years should we have a batch of cookies that won't be devoured in the first 2 hours.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:01 AM (2YhKe)

194 186 there should be a batter recipe
anyway, I shit-canned my deep fryer because it was kind of a PITA to use and clean

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (15Vi2)

When it comes to baking and cooking,
There's the batter recipe and the wurst recipe...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:01 AM (l3cgK)

195 Crude oil is at $75.76 . The economy will boom with lower oil prices

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (Iurxt)

196
I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)


I simply believe that everything you just said is bullshit. We'll just go to our respective corners and call it even, eh?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (2YhKe)

197 >My wife used to make very good baked onion rings.

Posted by: Bulg
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interesting

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (15Vi2)

198 It'd be nice that the same people who are going all "Mark Levin" over the Iran dear--screeching, yelling, same thing over and over--would take a moment to consider:

The same media cheering and encouraging failure of Lincoln Reflecting Pool--one of our greatest American monuments; ffs of all things to shit on just "cause Trump"--are the same people you are reading to be "informed" on Iran.

So maybe you all can just sit down, drink some warm cocoa and calm your tits?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (73/SM)

199 You know, first time in my life I am not watching any sports

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (sgkY8)

200 I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)

The Battle of Bataan? Vietnam? The US Embassy in Tehran in 1979?

You are being histrionic. We have no idea how this will play out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (PLxDd)

201 196
I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)


I simply believe that everything you just said is bullshit. We'll just go to our respective corners and call it even, eh?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (2YhKe)

Um, Hello?

Posted by: Vietnam and Afghanistan at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (l3cgK)

202 Yes we really blew it electing this Trump guy. We will have to wait it out until the next Presidential election. Maybe we can get Kamala and Hunter in office and straighten this country out. In the meantime let's bitch, riot and loot. Also elect as many Democrats as we can. Look to California to show us the way! Also, green water is not so bad.
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Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (IY9No)

203
180 Glad I got back from town to read Tehran Tom's analysis.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (afJtY)

You’re wrong Ben, and you know it. The reason you bought into the “Iranian propaganda “ op was because you knew the deal as reported was utterly indefensible. You did not want to believe it, but now you know it’s true.

It’s quite sad to see someone of your intelligence and ability slide into nothing but personal insults, because your intellectual position is totally bankrupt. You’re better than that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (kmEMr)

204 anyway, I shit-canned my deep fryer because it was kind of a PITA to use and clean

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (15Vi2)


This. A good deep frier is hard to get, unless you have a restaurant and enough space to install one. The countertop versions you get at WalMart or off Amazon are usually hot garbage.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (2YhKe)

205
You are being histrionic. We have no idea how this will play out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (PLxDd)

Where's the fun in that ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (HtIAP)

206 205
You are being histrionic. We have no idea how this will play out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (PLxDd)

Where's the fun in that ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (HtIAP)

You can always bet on the outcome...I wonder what the odds makers are putting it at?

Posted by: Vietnam and Afghanistan at June 22, 2026 09:04 AM (l3cgK)

207 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (l3cgK)

That's why I'm not reading anything about it, and skipped to the bottom of the comments . I'm reading
neither dead tree reports, internet reports or comments from ASHQ commentators. I am grateful everyday for what J.J . does here but I can do without the vitriol of arguing posters today. It's my day off 🙂

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (n3VHW)

208 We have no idea how this will play out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (PLxDd)


But but but.......You KNOW it's true!!!!! YOU'RE AFRAID TO ADMIT IT!!!!!!


I'll be going to work soon.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (2YhKe)

209 oof, off sock

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (l3cgK)

210 Not you.... The rest of the naysayers... You know... The Military experts here....
Posted by: It's me donna

That's like 85% of commenters here! It is a smart military blog after all..m

Posted by: Military Moron at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (ycI94)

211 simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)


She would have pre surrendered without the bombing.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (3cXW4)

212 The countertop versions you get at WalMart or off Amazon are usually hot garbage.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (2YhKe)

I have an enclosed rotating fryer that works great! Except it is a pain to clean, so I never use it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (PLxDd)

213 If Iran is Trump's biggest fuck up then we are in amazing shape.

He has his reasons for what he does, I don't think he is owned or fooled, he tries to get shit done. Maybe this is a failure - maybe not.

I would not call it humiliating, that's ludicrous. He tried shit, and might still be trying, no way we know the full story. Trump does and says things that look bad all the time and usually but not always, gets vindicated. Still trust him at the helm more than anyone and I don't think there is *anyone* that would have taken this Iran thing further than he will or would, if at all.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (22ggK)

214 207 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (l3cgK)

That's why I'm not reading anything about it, and skipped to the bottom of the comments . I'm reading
neither dead tree reports, internet reports or comments from ASHQ commentators. I am grateful everyday for what J.J . does here but I can do without the vitriol of arguing posters today. It's my day off 🙂

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (n3VHW)

Honestly, I didn't read those either, just looked at the JJ headlines, which indicate it's wonderful or horrible. No middle ground. So, I'll wait for Iran to violate it again, because they will.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (l3cgK)

215 So, about that Lincoln guy…

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (77rzZ)

216 It's also, National Chocolate Eclair Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (NpAcC)

217 Bladensburg is probably the most humiliating American defeat in history.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (XvL8K)

218 215 So, about that Lincoln guy…

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (77rzZ)

I bought his logs!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (l3cgK)

219 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (PLxDd)


SAVED by a clever edit!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (2YhKe)

220 The Internets are full of experts in war, politics, Middle East, the UK, etc.

Just ask them.

You'll get a long form pontification on shit they know absolutely nothing about. It's all opinion pieces. Which is fine once you take all the posts as just that.

Everyone has something to say... Trump has to filter out the garbage too. And, sadly, he is supposed to have actual "experts" advising him.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT)

221 Maybe Graham Platner should move to the UK, he can't be worse than Keir Starmer as PM.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (2GVsD)

222 >I must say, your assessment of the situation is brilliant and you have me convinced. What shall we do?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

Have you considered a large donation to the Republican National Committee? We only control three thirds of government right now, but with your support, we can expand our majorities to finally enact the policy priorities you hold!!!

Posted by: RNC at June 22, 2026 09:08 AM (ycI94)

223 Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (22ggK)

I understand your point, but the perception in the Arab/Muslim world of strength or weakness is often more important than the reality. And at this point, the agreement is chaotic at best. We won't know how it shakes out for weeks or months, but....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:08 AM (PLxDd)

224 >I have an enclosed rotating fryer that works great! Except it is a pain to clean, so I never use it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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this is what I'm saying
I can do french fries in oil in an iron skillet, but that's the extent of my frying

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:09 AM (15Vi2)

225 We won't know how it shakes out for weeks or months, but....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:08 AM (PLxDd)


We shouldn't wait. We should light our hair on fire, storm the capital and demand the head of the Golden Scalp Weasel for his stupid poopyhead incompetence.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:09 AM (2YhKe)

226 we really blew it electing this Trump guy. We will have to wait it out until the next Presidential election. Maybe we can get Kamala and Hunter in office and straighten this country out.

—

How about a 3rd option. It’s good Trump won but he has made mistakes and should be called out when he makes those mistakes.

Too radical?

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:09 AM (3cXW4)

227 Story out of north of Houston, some muzzie bitch who's an known agitator, confronted some gal in an grocery store.

Then recorded her response where she said islam isn't welcome here, it's not a religion, they need to go back, and mo' was a pedophile warlord.

Of course she was fired.

But her GSG had over $50k last I saw.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (73/SM)

228 A note on the IAEA inspectors. There were there , in Iran, "inspecting", until 7/4/2025.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (GD0B3)

229 Happy Monday, all!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (X8xt3)

230 *They not there

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (GD0B3)

231 It's also, National Chocolate Eclair Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (NpAcC)

Not a fan.

Unless you're talking about the Good Humor ice cream bar!

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (jDdwC)

232 Of course she was fired.

But her GSG had over $50k last I saw.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (73/SM)


So, this is the new grift, then.......wonderful.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (2YhKe)

233 >>Story out of north of Houston, some muzzie bitch who's an known agitator, confronted some gal in an grocery store.

Then recorded her response where she said islam isn't welcome here, it's not a religion, they need to go back, and mo' was a pedophile warlord.



Just great. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (X8xt3)

234 I'm lying right here.

Posted by: The Dead Horse at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (amcLV)

235 I'm lying right here.
Posted by: The Dead Horse at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (amcLV)


Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 22, 2026 09:12 AM (2YhKe)

236 If we can find anything "funny" about the Iran situation it's watching the lib press and Dems, demanding Trump go back in and blast the Mullah's to smithereens....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:12 AM (HtIAP)

237 note on the IAEA inspectors. There were there , in Iran, "inspecting", until 7/4/2025.
Posted by: runner


SEC didn’t see anything wrong with Bernie Madoff’s operation for decades.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (3cXW4)

238 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:08 AM (PLxDd

Trump is always willing to play a long game. He is also always willing to sacrifice things that others would not to achieve his goals. This is gamesmanship and basic strategy, not 27D Space Chess.

When you are up against someone whose rules you can't quite make out it makes them formidable. The "rules" should have been don't risk Iran before the midterms. The "rules" should have been don't risk looking weak.

There are a lot of rules and *no one*, despite the many many experts on the subject, knows what Trump's really are. We can all guess but that's all we and his/our opponents are left doing. It *seems* he wants peace at any price and to not directly endanger civilians. Seems. But I wouldn't bet on it.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (22ggK)

239 235 I'm lying right here.
Posted by: The Dead Horse at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (amcLV)


Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 22, 2026 09:12 AM (2YhKe)

We're always lying on the job.

Posted by: Politicians at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (l3cgK)

240
That’d be like a presidential candidate here winning the electoral college overwhelmingly with only 33% of the vote.

Yo!

Posted by: John Quincy Adams, 1824 (32.7%) at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (O0L8i)

241 So...if I'm tracking those Iran articles right...nobody knows what the f*** is going on.

Glad to see I'm not alone!

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (OUMaO)

242 >>millennial Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.), said in 2019 that an entire generation “came of age and never saw American prosperity,” and then whined, “I have never seen that, or experienced it, really, in my adult life.”


Beyotch who grew up un a chichi NY suburb, went to BC, and now lives with her wealthy BF in a nice BC condo says whaaaaat?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (X8xt3)

243 If Hezbollah is still active, as it is now, whatever agreement is reached with Iran will fall apart.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (GD0B3)

244 237 note on the IAEA inspectors. There were there , in Iran, "inspecting", until 7/4/2025.
Posted by: runner

I wouldn't trust them for anything.....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (HtIAP)

245 Then recorded her response where she said islam isn't welcome here, it's not a religion, they need to go back, and mo' was a pedophile warlord.

Lizzy
-------

My kinda gal

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (22ggK)

246 Beyotch who grew up un a chichi NY suburb, went to BC, and now lives with her wealthy BF in a nice BC condo says whaaaaat?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (X8xt3)


Forget it. She's rolling.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2YhKe)

247 Better to let IKEA inspect Iran?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2GVsD)

248 >>I understand your point, but the perception in the Arab/Muslim world of strength or weakness is often more important than the reality. And at this point, the agreement is chaotic at best. We won't know how it shakes out for weeks or months, but....

That is true. The GCC is pretty much in lockstep against Iran right now and they don't appear to be wavering. If we are going to judge how things are going by their attitudes it's looking pretty good for the Orange Man.

For the umpteenth time, Trump is attempting to end this situation with a positive outcome with a deal not with bombs. It looks different because it is different. Iraq and Libya are examples of wars that ended with bombs and bullets, how did that turn out?

Deals require patience not constant freakouts over moves we may or not completely understand because they are not negotiating in public. I've seen nothing from Trump over the last decade to make me think he's gone soft.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (viF8m)

249
My kinda gal
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (22ggK)


Nothing she said was incorrect.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2YhKe)

250 Tom, I know exactly as much as you do.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 09:16 AM (afJtY)

251 243 If Hezbollah is still active, as it is now, whatever agreement is reached with Iran will fall apart.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (GD0B3)

The Hezzies and the Houthi rolls in Yemen need to be put down hard like the rabid dogs they are. Oh, and F**k the Iranian mullahs for their support of the above.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:16 AM (l3cgK)

252 Better to let IKEA inspect Iran?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2GVsD)
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They can do anything with an Allen wrench.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:16 AM (amcLV)

253 Today is Pookette's first day of a local day camp. She's never done anything like this before, but I think she's far less nervous than her mom. ><

Posted by: pookysgirl, worried about her baby bird's wings at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (Wt5PA)

254 I miss Doof.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (2YhKe)
******
What happened to Doof?
I've been extremely busy for the past six weeks so I'm sure I've missed a lot.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (NpAcC)

255 240
That’d be like a presidential candidate here winning the electoral college overwhelmingly with only 33% of the vote.

Yo!
Posted by: John Quincy Adams, 1824 (32.7%) at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (O0L8i)

Hi.

Posted by: House of Representatives voting as states at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (T6aVk)

256 252 Better to let IKEA inspect Iran?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2GVsD)
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They can do anything with an Allen wrench.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:16 AM (amcLV)

I always wonder why I end up with all those extra pieces...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (HtIAP)

257 What happened to Doof?
I've been extremely busy for the past six weeks so I'm sure I've missed a lot.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (NpAcC)


I heard Weasel shot him during last night's gun thread and Doof is now causing havoc at Weasel Acres.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)

258 Heard there's a new Werner Herzog movie out w/Armie Hammer as the lead - a Death Wish type revenge flick that is based on current events in Europe. Already banned in Germany, guess it upset the demographic that is always offended (no, the other one that doesn't wave a rainbow flag).

Well, well, well. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (X8xt3)

259 That means last night was Onion Ring Eve.
And I forgot to celebrate.

Posted by: Dang it at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (Ov6Yl)

260 Then recorded her response where she said islam isn't welcome here, it's not a religion, they need to go back, and mo' was a pedophile warlord.


no lies detected

good for her

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (j+aD2)

261
The waters have receded somewhat and we can go out so that Her Majesty can get her nails done and we can do some grocery shopping.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (O0L8i)

262 Today is Pookette's first day of a local day camp. She's never done anything like this before, but I think she's far less nervous than her mom. >
Posted by: pookysgirl, worried about her baby bird's wings at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (Wt5PA)


She'll be fine. It's everyone else you'll have to worry about.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)

263 Did Doof get too close to Soup and catch a tumor from him, too?

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (77rzZ)

264 >>>Trump's deal utilized tariffs, bombs, and blockades to bring Iran up the ramp and into 12 rounds with the 45th and 47th President of the United States.

Doesn't sound like 11D chess to me.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (dK+Kv)

265 I heard Weasel shot him during last night's gun thread and Doof is now causing havoc at Weasel Acres.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)
--------
First Piper, now Doof. Been a rough June.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (amcLV)

266 And, here a thought, what happens if Iran, because of some excuse - for example Hezbollah shooting rockets at Israeli villages in the north and Israel hitting them back, closes the strait in October 2026, right before the election.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (GD0B3)

267 --------
First Piper, now Doof. Been a rough June.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (amcLV)


It's a haunting development.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (2YhKe)

268 One last bit of foolishness this weekend, outside of the negotiations:
“ On Sunday, Trump told Fox News he was "disappointed Israel can't put Hezbollah away", adding in reference to the fight against the militant group: "I'm close to giving it over to Syria."

6 hours later, our new ally Syrian President Al Sharra replied, on the record, that “No one from Syria is going into Lebanon. No one from Syria is going to fight Hezbollah.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (kmEMr)

269 "...Weasel shot him during last night's gun thread..."
####
It's just a flesh wound.

Posted by: The Black Knight at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (Ov6Yl)

270 A lot of it is we want to categorize everything.

There is a soft "Trump can't do wrong" crowd and a "We should be able to criticize Trump" contingent and then a "here's our chance to GIT em" noise machine that is very annoying. Maybe not all here this morning.

But everyone wants to judge everything. Bottom line, R's will take the midterms unless they are cheated out of it, and they 100% do NOT deserve to take it. Not because of Trump but because they are useless and HATE their own voters.

That's a bigger problem than Iran right now. Much.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (22ggK)

271 No matter what the outcome is, Iran won’t abide by any of it we know this is how they operate. They’ll make 100 promises to end nuclear programs and then ignore all those promises.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (3cXW4)

272 265 I heard Weasel shot him during last night's gun thread and Doof is now causing havoc at Weasel Acres.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)
--------
First Piper, now Doof. Been a rough June.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (amcLV)

What happened? I've been in and out for a few months now...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (l3cgK)

273 End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Colombians are now flooding the streets to celebrate the fall of socialism

https://tinyurl.com/yxreszjp

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (NpAcC)

274 271 No matter what the outcome is, Iran won’t abide by any of it we know this is how they operate. They’ll make 100 promises to end nuclear programs and then ignore all those promises.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (3cXW4)

Just another Taquiya Sunrise...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (l3cgK)

275 Keir Starmer cried during his resignation announcement?

Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (X8xt3)

276 - @155 Quarter Twenty

True but, distinction without a difference.
The common terms used are public schools and private schools.
It changes nothing about the point of my post.

And this is why I'm never all hair on fire.
I know that God wrote it all out, beginning to end, before He laid the foundations of the world. To the "smallest detail." Including each of our lives.

We were given the Cliff Notes. Enough to teach us about who He is. Proven through His miracles and fulfillment of things told beforehand through His prophets.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (ev5l/)

277 It still amazes me that for a non-trivial number of people it is worse to be called racist then it is to watch a coordinated group rape its way through your women.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (sKqQm)

278 199 You know, first time in my life I am not watching any sports
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (sgkY

Last sporting event I saw were the Olympics. (Yeah, I can hear the booing.). I still savor the men’s hockey gold, knowing that a horrible country lost to the USA.

I love that the foreign visitors are discovering this great country (I implore that they see the countryside, get out of the cities. They are fine but the REAL goodies are out in the countryside) but soccer still sucks and is bloody boring.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:22 AM (T6aVk)

279 Colombians are now flooding the streets to celebrate the fall of socialism


A few years ago the socialist despot of Columbia assassinated his opponent and everyone just pretended it was a one off crazy guy acting on his own.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (sKqQm)

280
What the hell is wrong with these people?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (sKqQm)


People will label them racist, and some can't live with bad people calling them bad things.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (2YhKe)

281 Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (X8xt3)

I ruined millions of UK citizens’ lives?

So be it.

Posted by: PM Keir Starmer at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (T6aVk)

282 I haven't watched sports in ages now. Was never really into baseball, hockey, basketball, or soccer. The NFL's behavior turned me off to Football; I don't even watch the SuperBowel...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (l3cgK)

283 Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (3cXW4)

Do you think there is a tenable solution with them?

I'm not saying what's happening is right. I mean beyond that. Genuine query, I really want to know what you think.

Because short of blowing them off the map......

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (22ggK)

284 >>It still amazes me that for a non-trivial number of people it is worse to be called racist then it is to watch a coordinated group rape its way through your women.


Well, there's also the stabbings, beheadings, acid attacks, church burnings. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (X8xt3)

285 I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.
Posted by: Tom Servo
--
"humiliating surrender?"
Ya kinda gave the whole game away there bub--you might just want to sit down from here on out.

But you won't.

Remember how like last week you were swearing up and down that Rubio wanted nothing to do with this deal, had nothing to do with it, and was distancing himself from it?

Only for Rubio to be standing right behind Trump as the MOU was signed?

Opps.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (73/SM)

286 I saw a little bit of metric football recently and wow is that sport boring.

Too slow
Too many players on the field
Too much of two guys dancing with each other where nothing happens in relation to scoring outside of their personal foreplay

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (sKqQm)

287 283 Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (3cXW4)

Do you think there is a tenable solution with them?

I'm not saying what's happening is right. I mean beyond that. Genuine query, I really want to know what you think.

Because short of blowing them off the map......

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (22ggK)

Will that work?

Posted by: Kumala Whoris at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (l3cgK)

288 Um, Hello?

Posted by: Vietnam and Afghanistan at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (l3cgK)

That's totally not histrionics.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (dK+Kv)

289 She'll be fine. It's everyone else you'll have to worry about.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)

I'm not passing on what you just said to Pooky, because then he'll go over to his dad's gun locker to pick out a shotgun.

Posted by: pookysgirl is smarter than that at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (Wt5PA)

290 >>Colombians are now flooding the streets to celebrate the fall of socialism


Has anyone noticed that since USAID was crushed communists aren't doing so well in elections in Latin America?

Just a coincidence I'm sure.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (viF8m)

291 The Colombian Socialist is throwing a tantrum demanding recounts.

How Socialist of him.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (T6aVk)

292 I'm not passing on what you just said to Pooky, because then he'll go over to his dad's gun locker to pick out a shotgun.

Posted by: pookysgirl is smarter than that at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (Wt5PA)


Ah. Likely a good call.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (2YhKe)

293 We were given the Cliff Notes. Enough to teach us about who He is. Proven through His miracles and fulfillment of things told beforehand through His prophets.
Posted by: TeeJ at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM
----

(Searches bible for Book Of Cliff.)

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (Ov6Yl)

294 Iran, by itself, cannot "close" Hormuz.

Shipping companies have to oblige too. And they are all too willing to abide because they're cowards and rely on the insurance industry to protect their assets.

Plus, the majority of the crews who man those commercial vessels are typically 3rd worlders with hardly any education... but a whole lot of superstition.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (jehhT)

295 Starmer is out, but does his just-implemented social media ban for kids, but really a digital oversight network of all citizens, remain in place?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (X8xt3)

296 Here is my plan! The US takes over the strait now. As it should have month ago. Because while Iran has not much of military leverage left, it never really relied on their military to bully the world did they. They lost the Iraq war. They lost to arabs! But that is not their strength, their navy did not rule the seas , and their air force did not rule the skies. Terrorism is. And they are still in that game. They created a chokepoint in the strait with a fe mines, and they are still pulling Hezbollah (and Hamas and Houthi) strings who is holding Lebanon hostage.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (GD0B3)

297
Has anyone noticed that since USAID was crushed communists aren't doing so well in elections in Latin America?

Just a coincidence I'm sure.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (viF8m)

I won’t argue against it.

But Socialism also leads to problems people realize can be put to an end by voting for people with good policies.

I’d say it’s both. Cutting USAID DOES help a great deal.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (T6aVk)

298 Asymmetric warfare, baby.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:27 AM (GD0B3)

299 Keir Starmer cried during his resignation announcement?

Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (X8xt3)

Leftard puppets are so weird.

Though on this note, Lizzy, I had a crazy realization over the weekend. I've always known I only ever saw my stoic yet warm father cry a single tear in his life - when he received news of an aunt's death. One tear. And *yet* that's still one more entire genuine tear than I ever saw my narcissist BPD histrionic mother cry.

Mind blowing!

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:28 AM (22ggK)

300 294 Iran, by itself, cannot "close" Hormuz.

Shipping companies have to oblige too. And they are all too willing to abide because they're cowards and rely on the insurance industry to protect their assets.

Plus, the majority of the crews who man those commercial vessels are typically 3rd worlders with hardly any education... but a whole lot of superstition.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (jehhT)

There are also plenty of pipelines that lead to the Red Sea and can otherwise get around the Strait of Hormuz.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:28 AM (T6aVk)

301 when does art class start

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (15Vi2)

302 Keir Starmer cried during his resignation announcement?

Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (X8xt3)


Crying while lying about how EVERYTHING he did was for the PEOPLE of the UK...........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (2YhKe)

303 I ruined millions of UK citizens’ lives?

So be it.
Posted by: PM Keir Starmer at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (T6aVk)
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I call for a vote to give Supreme Chancellor Palpatine Prime Minister Starmer emergency powers!

Posted by: Jar Jar Binks at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (gnNyN)

304 when does art class start
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (15Vi2)


45 seconds.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (2YhKe)

305 Do you think there is a tenable solution with them?

I'm not saying what's happening is right. I mean beyond that. Genuine query, I really want to know what you think.

Because short of blowing them off the map......
Posted by: ... at

If past performance is an indicator of future expectations then I don’t see it. Thats why to me it’s binary. Either you get rid of them or you’re stuck with the same shit we’ve been dealing with for 50 years. There’s now middle ground with these people.

Which is why it’s frustrating for me to see Trump fall into this trap every other president has fallen into. You’d think k after 50 years one of them would finally learn.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (3cXW4)

306 286 I saw a little bit of metric football recently and wow is that sport boring.

Too slow
Too many players on the field
Too much of two guys dancing with each other where nothing happens in relation to scoring outside of their personal foreplay
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (sKqQm)

I like the idea of keeping the same amount of players but reducing the size of the field - sorry, the pitch - by one half.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (T6aVk)

307 >>Has anyone noticed that since USAID was crushed communists aren't doing so well in elections in Latin America?


Yes.
Also helps that Trump took Maduo, is squeezing Cuba, and South Americans have witnesses the success of Bukele and Millei.

A whole lot of proof that decline is a choice, and it's possible to choose better!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (X8xt3)

308 Keir Starmer cried during his resignation announcement?

Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.
Posted by: Lizzy
+++
Well.... That would be because he actually cares about his career.
His doesn't give a rats ass about all those Brit citizens.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (Lo97M)

309 >>I’d say it’s both. Cutting USAID DOES help a great deal.

I don't think anyone would argue that there isn't a freedom, for lack of a better word, movement in many if not most countries. There has also been widespread and coordinated corruption by those who want to foster tyrannical rule that made it impossile for those movements to succeed.

Remove the tyranny and look what happens. Here included.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (viF8m)

310 Here's where I am:

I read the review of the Vigilante movie, which was 100% bad, and immediately thought, Great, I want to see it. Make a lot of sequels.

Posted by: Wenda at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (iIAkP)

311 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:31 AM (2YhKe)

312 >>One tear. And *yet* that's still one more entire genuine tear than I ever saw my narcissist BPD histrionic mother cry.

Mind blowing!



Indeed!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (X8xt3)

313 Burnham would come to Dunce Inane Hill.

Posted by: three weird sisters at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (pBJ6M)

314 Which is why it’s frustrating for me to see Trump fall into this trap every other president has fallen into. You’d think k after 50 years one of them would finally learn.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (3cXW4)

Yeah and I can't say as I disagree. Maybe he thought he could get it done, maybe he had intelligence that hasn't been shared. Maybe he got bad info, and zipped up and put in a sack by some bad actors that knew what would get his motor going. Wouldn't be the first time.

If nothing else it's showing the world what it is up against. And *may* (key word) be setting the nuke program back which is likely the least we or anyone including Israel has been able to do.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (22ggK)

315 Either you get rid of them . . . .

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (3cXW4)

Which means what, exactly, militarily?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (dK+Kv)

316 As much of a wanker as Starmer is, relatively speaking he didn’t do much damage to the UK. The damage was already done long before he got there.

Blair opened the door to millions of 3rd World “migrants” in the 90s and 00s then Conservatives ruled for 14 years between 2010 and 2024, keeping the door wide open.

It’s kinda like Blair set fire to the house, Cameron and Boris Johnson puted gas on it and then Starmer gets blamed for the fire when firefighters show up because the other two ran away.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (3cXW4)

317 Maybe I wrote it wrong:

The muzzie lady, in full burka, provoked the white lady (called her a "cracker" by reports), and then recorded the white lady's response, calling mo' a pedo, etc.

The white lady was the one fired, not the muzzie.

(LOL at the thought of some garbage bag wearing muzzie having a job (other than farming government welfare).

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (73/SM)

318 Nothing happened to Doof. He's at the spa getting a pedicure. I think Piper suggested it.

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (IY9No)

319 Killing the leaders has been nice. Hopefully he got some real Friends of Democrats in those strikes.

To me that would make the whole effort worth it. There are other considerations too, like putting Europe and China on their back heel.

But talking strictly about Iran as it stands here, they are gonna be a thorn in earth's side for a long time.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (22ggK)

320 But talking strictly about Iran as it stands here, they are gonna be a thorn in earth's side for a long time.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (22ggK)

It's a silly point to argue, because there is not one person that does not realize such. The question is how to deal with them. And can our current course bear fruit at all?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (dK+Kv)

321 Scott Bessent just authorized Iranian oil sales for 60 days based on the progress of the negotiations in Switzerland. Obviously, the Strait is open.

Guess who else needs the Strait open to sell the product that makes up a huge precentage of their national GDP?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (viF8m)

322 Western hemisphere results seem to suggest yes. I am willing to give a little rope to accomplish our ME goals.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:42 AM (dK+Kv)

323 It's a silly point to argue, because there is not one person that does not realize such. The question is how to deal with them. And can our current course bear fruit at all?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (dK+Kv)

There is only one way to deal with them and no one really wants it because it will involve many innocents dead. There is probably more to this than meets the eye so simple Twitter wins and losses are the real silliness here.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (22ggK)

324 But talking strictly about Iran as it stands here, they are gonna be a thorn in earth's side for a long time.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (22ggK)

We chide the left for being perpetually online, but we have our own contingent, too, who are subject to any and all foreign influence ops that come down the pike.

Musk did me a solid.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (dK+Kv)

325 There is probably more to this than meets the eye

My money's on robots in disguise.

Posted by: far cry at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (pBJ6M)

326 CP fail.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (dK+Kv)

327 Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (dK+Kv)

He did indeed. Social media is a virus

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:47 AM (22ggK)

328 There is only one way to deal with them and no one really wants it because it will involve many innocents dead.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (22ggK)

Some actually do want it, but they are unwilling to sacrifice their own to accomplish it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (dK+Kv)

329 Iran also agreed to IAEA inspections.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (afJtY)

330 >>Some actually do want it, but they are unwilling to sacrifice their own to accomplish it.

And they never say what their plan is for dealing with Iran after we have an all out war. And there's always an after to be dealt with.

Oil just fell below $74/barrel, by the way.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:53 AM (viF8m)

331 The IAEA is a joke. Atomic Energy? That's some 1950's shit. They're outdated like NATO and the UN. They serve no purpose.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 09:56 AM (fkjGs)

332 Their plan is to criticize any plan that doesn't meet their expectations.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 09:58 AM (afJtY)

333 Rev Wishbone. agreed but it is a step down from the " we aren't discussing nuclear ever" stance.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 10:01 AM (afJtY)

334 And they never say what their plan is for dealing with Iran after we have an all out war. And there's always an after to be dealt with.

Oil just fell below $74/barrel, by the way.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:53 AM (viF8m)

I am fine with pointing out the negatives, but they never want to admit their own failures to connect with the realities of the situation that don't favor their preferred yet unstated position.

Heroq came close and should be applauded for owning up, such as it was. But just as they quickly point out, the devil is in the details.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 10:03 AM (dK+Kv)

335 French TV disavows female presenter's barb at Belgium's Doku over leaving World Cup for childbirth

French sports media leader L’Équipe has disavowed comments by a female presenter who criticized Belgium winger Jeremy Doku for wanting to leave the World Cup to be at the birth of his first child

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 10:09 AM (RHGPo)

336 Finally naming their war dead, Gazan terror groups admit some slain journalists were fighters

A ToI review finds obituaries published by Hamas and Islamic Jihad in recent weeks include several figures previously identified as press; widely cited media advocacy database removes several names of fighters it had said were journalists

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 10:11 AM (RHGPo)

337 Podcaster Dan Bongino has said, "Republicans may not be the answer to all of your problems, but the Democrats are most certainly the cause of most of them."

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 10:12 AM (RHGPo)

338 We don't do a bad line in causing them, either!

Posted by: The Republicans at June 22, 2026 10:23 AM (22ggK)

339 'Morning, all, and thank you, J.J.

From above, The destruction of a legacy. Trump Coulda Been a Contender

We know the left heavily favor's Barack Obama's 2015 Iran Nuclear Deal (JCPOA), so that's that.

Only 5 months after Trump took office in his first administration, the Qatar diplomatic crisis & blockade began. Blockading nations accused Qatar of supporting terrorism, maintaining close ties with Iran, and using its state-funded media network, Al Jazeera, to destabilize the region. Qatar denied all allegations.

The coalition issued a list of 13 broad demands for Qatar to lift the blockade. Qatar refused, calling the demands an assault on its sovereignty.

In 2020, Kushner served as a primary U.S. mediator.
The Abraham Accords, a normalization agreement between Israel and several Arab nations, including the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, and Morocco, was brokered by the United States.

Further, the Qatar blockade officially ended in January 2021 with the signing of the Al-Ula Declaration, which restored full diplomatic and trade relations just weeks before Trump left office.

Continued -

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 10:59 AM (NFX2v)

340 Jared Kushner is involved in the US negotiations for the U.S.–Iran Memorandum of Understanding (MOU).

The hue & cry is always: NO Senate-confirmed position, formal professional diplomatic background, and/or a traditional government security clearance. He's a real estate guy, an investments guy.

The Dems in Congress have chased him to no avail.
Just two days ago, Facebook:

U.S. Senator Tim Kaine
Trump tore up Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran, started an illegal and foolish war, and then signed a much less effective agreement. So much for ‘the art of the deal.’

Kaine, a democratic loyalist and key ally to both the Obama and Biden administrations; selected as VP running mate for Hillary Clinton, and all in on Biden's economic and climate policies. He damn near hates the MOU and everyone involved in the current administration.

>Counterpunch, 6/15/26 - Jared Kushner and the Privatization of America’s Iran Strategy

In small part, "A serious foreign policy cannot operate like this indefinitely without damaging its credibility. The problem is the narrowing of political imagination that follows when the same relationships keep reproducing the same instincts:

Continued -

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 10:59 AM (NFX2v)

341 tighter alignment with Saudi Arabia, closer alignment with Israeli regional regional priorities and more pressure on Iran. When public policy moves inside private networks, alternatives become harder to imagine, because the people with the most access are invested in a particular regional order."

(CounterPunch, independent, left-wing political, generally considered a highly biased source with inconsistent editorial control. AI Overview)

👉The National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) has held its annual grand gathering and political events in France for over 20 years, traditionally hosting the massive summits since 2004.

French police just banned & dispensed a massive planned rally by the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) in Paris on June 20th, citing fears of clashes and a tense international context. Authorities also arrested approximately 20 demonstrators who defied the ban, with organizers reporting 12 injuries as police used pepper spray to break up the gathering.

The progressives need to hate the Trump MOU. They're being boxed in on all front, losing power, diplomacy, and money, ergo trying to mount a huge resistance of its own. imho.

Good day. 🤗

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 10:59 AM (NFX2v)

342 Keir Wanker stepped down? Now send him to gaol!

Posted by: Jon at June 22, 2026 01:39 PM (woxlq)

Daily Tech News 22 June 2026

Top Story



Tech News



Musical Interlude





Disclaimer: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE)

2 Mornin'

DEATH TO ALL MICE!!!!

Why yes, I seem to have some four legged squatters. Little vermin bastards!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 04:32 AM (sAmhv)

3 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:34 AM (Ia/+0)

4 The Blues Brothers - Shake a Tail Feather

That's so great!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:34 AM (6wpGE)

5 Morning Tech threaders. Good evening Pixie.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 22, 2026 04:34 AM (BGSp9)

6 Guten morgen, horde.

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 04:41 AM (I5lp2)

7 G'mornin all y'all

Posted by: Okjohn at June 22, 2026 04:41 AM (lE/nR)

8 >>>Polymarket ads are ads. (MSN)
In that nothing they present is real.

I am not a lawyer, but ... that's what ads do.They sell things using actors pretending stuff (excuse the heavy lawyerlike vocabulary).

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:43 AM (6wpGE)

9 Democratic operatives Shaunna Thomas and Leah Hunt-Hendrix launched the Guardrails Alliance on Thursday with backing from tech employees, labor unions, and other groups, according to The New York Times.
****

First paragraph tells you that this sucks balls. One big grift.

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 04:45 AM (I5lp2)

10 WAVY10 has dropped measles in favor of exceptional drought.

Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2026 04:50 AM (GbONR)

11 I wonder how many people are grifting on the AI runup?

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 04:50 AM (I5lp2)

12 East bound and down
See you when I get there

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:51 AM (Ia/+0)

13 Howdy, I guess it's time to go to sleep.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 22, 2026 04:51 AM (Q/FnY)

14 >>>TikTok shows three times more AI slop than YouTube.

from the article:

Why This Matters
Brands producing TikTok content are entering a feed where automated content may outweigh human-made videos for new users. For children's content specifically, the concentration is higher.
TikTok added user controls for AI content, but data suggests that what new users see by default still leans heavily toward AI-generated videos.

But, wait. That doesn't tell us Why This Matters.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:52 AM (6wpGE)

15 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2026 04:55 AM (mqAOW)

16 Belated BOING!

Mid-exercise.

Maybe l8r.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 04:55 AM (rmmrE)

17 A tech-worked backed PAC is spending $5 million to fight a multi-trillion dollar industry. (Tech Crunch)

from the article:

“Our fundamental belief here is that people still do have the power to stop this autocratic takeover of the Trump administration and the tech sector,” Thomas told the NYT.

Oh, for heaven's sake.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:57 AM (6wpGE)

18 Cheerio Der Starmer!

https://tinyurl.com/4az7c8eh

Here's betting that the barbarian who replaces him will be the same or worse.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 04:58 AM (rmmrE)

19 Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2026 04:55 AM (mqAOW)

Very close to having a meow in your hash.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:59 AM (6wpGE)

20 18 Cheerio Der Starmer!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 04:58 AM (rmmrE)

BBC:

Keir Starmer announces his resignation as UK prime minister

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:00 AM (6wpGE)

21 AI slop will kill social media. Only meat space accounts known to the viewer will matter.

Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2026 05:01 AM (/Chlc)

22 ... and on the same front page:

BBC:

Trump-backed political outsider wins Colombia election, initial count shows

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:01 AM (6wpGE)

23 BBC:

Keir Starmer announces his resignation as UK prime minister


He should be replace with a sack of cornmeal. That will give time for the UK to clean up Starmers mess. Couldn't be any worse.

They are going to pick somebody worse, aren't they.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 05:04 AM (sAmhv)

24 Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:00 AM (6wpGE

I think the fellow who will be his replacement is even worse

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:04 AM (guLpK)

25 Very close to having a meow in your hash.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:59
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Heh.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2026 05:05 AM (mqAOW)

26
Daily Tech News 22 June 2026
Top Story
Tech News

Good picks, Pixy!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:06 AM (6wpGE)

27
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 22, 2026 05:10 AM (AMvSw)

28 BBC:

What happens now?
Starmer says he'll remain in post until Labour chooses a new leader, which he's asked the party's governing body to ensure happens "before Parliament returns in September"

Andy Burnham - who could replace the PM - will be in Westminster today to be sworn in as MP for Makerfield, after winning a by-election last week

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:11 AM (6wpGE)

29 DangNammit!!! Thought I caught that stupid mouse. Turned the light on in the kitchen and saw it just when it hit my sticky trap. Made a loud squeal. I went to get a bag to dispose of it and when I got back, it was gone. Little !$$%&&&^%

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 05:12 AM (sAmhv)

30 BBC:

(editor, editor)

Starmer announced he had already spoken with the King and in said if there is a contest to succeed him, a new Labour leader will be in place before parliament returns in September

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:14 AM (6wpGE)

31 ooh, maybe an editor at the BBC reads Pixy's thread:

Starmer announced he had already spoken with the King and said if there is a contest to succeed him, a new Labour leader will be in place before parliament returns in September

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:20 AM (6wpGE)

32 @18/Biden's Dog: "Cheerio Der Starmer!

I still think that behind the scenes, they hit him with the really nasty blackmail video or pictures that were taken and set aside for just such a day and said to him, "You can resign, or you can resign in utter disgrace, your choice."

Guys like him and Justin Trudeau are way too narcissistic to resign "for the good of the party". In their own eyes, they did, and can do no wrong, but their weakness is that they don't want to be a pariah, despised by everyone in public for the rest of their lives. They'll do anything to salvage their image in the eyes of the public, especially if they've got a soft landing set up such as a "consulting" job that leverages their political career up to that point.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

33 A beautiful psalm of praise read by David Suchet-Psalm 145:

https://tinyurl.com/4c3vjafc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:23 AM (guLpK)

34 @29/Puddleglum: DangNammit!!! Thought I caught that stupid mouse.

Victor snap traps baited with peanut butter. Those work.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:24 AM (O7YUW)

35 32 I still think that behind the scenes, they hit him with the really nasty blackmail video or pictures that were taken and set aside for just such a day and said to him, "You can resign, or you can resign in utter disgrace, your choice."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

Maybe this phrasing, at the BBC, prior to the resignation announcement, was code:

Shadow minister: Keir Starmer is a 'busted flush'

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:25 AM (6wpGE)

36 Boy had stage 4 cancer , but his doctor gave him hope and it changed everything:

https://tinyurl.com/24junfth

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:26 AM (guLpK)

37 I like the old term "Four-flusher."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 05:27 AM (qFwJc)

38 wow
Starmer quit
I thought Trump was just outgassing on his truth social, but it's true
interesting to see if this changes things in the UK

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 05:28 AM (hkbGk)

39 though I imagine it will be

meet the new boss
same as the old boss

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 05:30 AM (hkbGk)

40 38 wow
Starmer quit
I thought Trump was just outgassing on his truth social, but it's true
interesting to see if this changes things in the UK
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 05:28 AM (hkbGk)

BBC:
(prior to the resignation announcement)

Donald Trump also weighed in, asserting that Starmer "will resign" having "failed badly" on immigration and energy in a post on Truth Social. No 10 tells the BBC Starmer has not spoken to Trump this weekend.

heh

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:31 AM (6wpGE)

41 ... accompanied by a photo of "Donald Trump and Keir Starmer pictured at the G7 in France last week"

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:32 AM (6wpGE)

42 "My red bag"- A reflection on Psalm 145 and praise of God. Upper Room Devotional:

https://tinyurl.com/3ahxsz5j

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:32 AM (guLpK)

43 BBC online front-page LIVE feed really does handle these sorts of breaking stories very well.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:34 AM (6wpGE)

44 This is the one of the most thought provoking posts on Christian theology, suffering and God's work which I have read: "Two choices" by an op writer at the "Christian Post":

https://tinyurl.com/3ns9w3fn

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:37 AM (OYsYV)

45 And a lovely version of an old time hymn ( 1879) " I need thee every hour."

https://tinyurl.com/mt4fjs83

Time for a walk. May you all have a blessed day everyone and know that you are a blessing to others.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:46 AM (KxQqp)

46 Good morning everyone. It's a nice day out here in the GPROMD. I have a short week and then I fly to CA to see my folks.

The weekend was a bit on the busy side. We had eight dogs in the house. Three went home on Saturday and one was picked up on Sunday so things are quieter.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 05:47 AM (RjOoY)

47 hmm

BBC:

Green Party leader Zack Polanski ...
On Starmer's potential successor Andy Burnham, Polanski says he "must be bold or he will be bust".

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:48 AM (6wpGE)

48 Victor snap traps baited with peanut butter. Those work.


The problem is getting Victor traps set. I have a hell of a time doing it. I've been using Tomcat traps and have had some success with them. This mouse has so far avoided all of them, except for the sticky trap that it pulled itself out of. That kind of pissed me off. I've used them before too and had success. Just not this time.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 05:53 AM (sAmhv)

49 Guys like him and Justin Trudeau are way too narcissistic to resign "for the good of the party". In their own eyes, they did, and can do no wrong, but their weakness is that they don't want to be a pariah, despised by everyone in public for the rest of their lives. They'll do anything to salvage their image in the eyes of the public, especially if they've got a soft landing set up such as a "consulting" job that leverages their political career up to that point.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

And look at PM Carney. He is a technocrat with no patience at all for politics. He believes he should be ruling Canada and has no time for anyone else, even his colleagues.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 05:57 AM (T6aVk)

50 Good Morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:01 AM (whRlH)

51 Cow Demon

Add that leadership failure to the woes of Canada. Can they ever recover?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:02 AM (whRlH)

52 m

I don't think even Nigel can turn the UK around. May I be mistaken.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:04 AM (whRlH)

53 @48/Puddleglum: "The problem is getting Victor traps set. I have a hell of a time doing it."

a) Are you using the old style Victor with the metal trip pedal, or are you using the new style with the expanded trigger plate (plastic, yellow, made to look like a piece of cheese.)

b) Can you describe why you have a problem setting the trap, ie, what the specific difficulty is?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:11 AM (O7YUW)

54 The Marxists in England will just slide another one in and declare everything will be different from now on

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 06:12 AM (sgkY8)

55 @49/Cow Demon: "He { Carney } believes he should be ruling Canada and has no time for anyone else, even his colleagues.

Scratch that liberal party paint, find the communist logo beneath.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:13 AM (O7YUW)

56 I couldn't get the arm set. Kept tripping, no matter what I tried. I think they were the second style you described. I'm heading to bed so I'll check the response later.

'night daywalkers!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 06:13 AM (sAmhv)

57 >>>expanded trigger plate (plastic, yellow, made to look like a piece of cheese.)

Those suck ass. I've had one trip three times, and all it's done is create a smart mouse. I'm going to have to make a bucket trap.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:14 AM (dK+Kv)

58 Evening and morning to all the late toilers and early risers!
Okay, I'll admit, it's Monday. But remember:

"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 06:15 AM (wzUl9)

59 The Marxists in England will just slide another one in and declare everything will be different from now on

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 06:12 AM (sgkY

Yep. The UK is a conquered people. They would give that up easily. I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:16 AM (dK+Kv)

60 would *not*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:17 AM (dK+Kv)

61 I'm up, reluctantly earlier than I planned. No coffee or chow this morning, just water; I'm fasting for a blood draw at 8 am. In a little bit I'll shave and shower, feed the cats, then head out to drive to the clinic near my old employer. They are usually done with me pretty quickly, and I can head to my favorite diner for coffee and breakfast.

Howz about you?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 06:18 AM (wzUl9)

62 Have a great day, everyone.

I have preps for my flight home after the MoMeet of pleasant memories.

May you be blessed with your week as well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:21 AM (whRlH)

63 I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.

Given that they had a Scottish dude go after Muslims with a knife and yell at the cops when they brought him down, things might be starting to turn.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 06:21 AM (RjOoY)

64 Scratch that liberal party paint, find the communist logo beneath.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:13 AM (O7YUW)

Especially now. If they were halfway pragmatic, they would look at AB and say "get all the oil out of the ground, we have to pay for lots and lots of social spending." But they are not pragmatic. They are very much Maoist in their outlook. PM Carney is right and if you disagree you are just an evil capitalist roader.

This view is bankrupting Canada and the government's view that if Canada is destroyed as a consequence of their decisions, so be it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 06:23 AM (T6aVk)

65 @56/Puddleglum: "I couldn't get the arm set. Kept tripping, no matter what I tried. I think they were the second style you described."

Okay, get some of the original style with the metal trip pedal. I've never had trouble setting those, there's a notch that's easy to see where the trip-arm sets into.

1. Bait the metal trip pedal with peanut butter. Put a nice glob of the peanut butter onto the metal loop and work it inside the loop too if you can.

2. Move the spring 180 degrees to the other side, holding it down on the wood with your thumb.

3. Swing the trip arm up and over the spring.

4. End of the trip arm fits into the notch on the metal trip pedal.

5. GENTLY remove pressure with your thumb so the trip arm locks into the notch on the metal trip pedal.

6. Hold the trap between thumb and index finger on the side that the spring arm is on when ARMED. If it lets go, this way it won't snap you. :-)

7. GENTLY place it down along side of where the wall and the floor meet, long side against wall.

8. Check every 12 hours, or wait for the *SNAP!* :-)

(continues...)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:24 AM (O7YUW)

66 The political life of a PM in Britain seems to be just under 2 years. 7 in the last 10 years

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 06:25 AM (afJtY)

67 52 m

I don't think even Nigel can turn the UK around. May I be mistaken.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:04 AM (whRlH)

The UK couldn't be turned around in 1979. Just sayin.

(And absolutely they were. To the extent we would prefer? Perhaps not, but it is undeniable that the UK was better off after PM Thatcher was in office. The UK CAN be turned around. That is not the question. The question is: will it? THAT is an open question.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 06:26 AM (T6aVk)

68 If they were halfway pragmatic, they would look at AB and say "get all the oil out of the ground, we have to pay for lots and lots of social spending."

1. That would desecrate Gaia.
2. This would lead to people having well paying jobs.

So you can see why there would be no interest in this.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 06:28 AM (RjOoY)

69 @Puddleglum (more about Victor mouse traps):

I've had cases where the trap has been tripped or the bait has been eaten without tripping the trap multiple times. Do not lose patience, just keep baiting the trap, it'll work.

Small mice can lick the bait completely out of the trip trigger, but a bigger fatter mouse (more importantly a mouse that has been fed well from your peanut butter and is used to an easy meal) will make a mistake and will get killed.

Mice can not resist peanut butter. They will return time after time for the easy meal.

Best way to load the trap to avoid contaminating your peanut butter jar:

a) Load the tip of a knife with peanut butter.
b) Transfer PB to fresh NEW toothpick.
c) Use toothpick to load trigger on trap (while disarmed.)
d) Throw toothpick away.
e) If loading another trap, repeat from (a) or (b).

We had one year where we killed over 20 mice. It was nuts. You couldn't even find traps in the store, apparently the mouse population had exploded that year and everyone was having problems. Always, ALWAYS keep 6 to 12 extra new traps on your shelf, ready to go. Get a "value pack".

Next year we caught maybe 1 or 2 all year.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:30 AM (O7YUW)

70 The UK CAN be turned around. That is not the question. The question is: will it? THAT is an open question.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 06:26 AM (T6aVk)

The UK is a beaten dog. They enjoy their serfdom. It is their national identity. Read the rape gang report or even just the reported details.

Sad, but true.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:30 AM (dK+Kv)

71 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:30 AM (O7YUW)

You give me hope.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:32 AM (dK+Kv)

72 What the cats don't get a sticky trap will.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 06:33 AM (afJtY)

73 Imagine you are the UK. And Starmer resigns, and you go okay now we reach into our bench and real leader takes charge.

Oh.

Imagine you are the US Senate....

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2026 06:34 AM (NlEaG)

74 Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:34 AM (6wpGE)

75 "Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.
Posted by: m"

Once they get in your ducts it's time to bring out the heavy firepower.

mornin yall

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2026 06:37 AM (vFG9F)

76
The political life of a PM in Britain seems to be just under 2 years. 7 in the last 10 years
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 06:25 AM (afJtY)

In the 1820s-1830s there were 9 in 8 years.

Liverpool: 1827
Canning: 1827
Goderich: 1827-1828
Wellington 1: 1828-1830
Grey: 1830-1834
Melbourne 1: 1834
Wellington 2: 1834
Peel: 1834-1835
Melbourne 2: 1835

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 06:37 AM (O0L8i)

77 England needs Oliver Cromwell again

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 06:40 AM (sgkY8)

78 this seems pretty solid:

BBC:

Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey says the public is "sick" of constantly changing prime ministers, following the resignation announcement from Keir Starmer.
"The British people are sick of being let down by an endless merry-go-round of prime ministers while nothing really changes," Davey writes on X.
"This time must be different. It can’t just be about changing who’s in Number 10, it has to be about changing our broken politics so we can fix our country."

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:41 AM (6wpGE)

79
"This time must be different. It can’t just be about changing who’s in Number 10, it has to be about changing our broken politics so we can fix our country."
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:41 AM (6wpGE)

Note that it's about changing politics instead of changing policies.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 06:45 AM (O0L8i)

80 > it has to be about changing our broken politics so we can fix our country."
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who thinks that will happen

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 06:45 AM (15Vi2)

81 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2026 06:45 AM (VyBeY)

82 Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey says the public is "sick" of constantly changing prime ministers, following the resignation announcement from Keir Starmer.
"The British people are sick of being let down by an endless merry-go-round of prime ministers while nothing really changes," Davey writes on X.
"This time must be different. It can’t just be about changing who’s in Number 10, it has to be about changing our broken politics so we can fix our country."
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:41 AM (6wpGE)

Narrator: They continued to be let down.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2026 06:45 AM (NlEaG)

83 it has to be about changing our broken politics
****

Well, no. Your politics are working just like the gov wants. It ain't broke if no one wants to fix it.

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 06:46 AM (I5lp2)

84 I'm late. Just dropping in to say hello. I'm going to make it a point to stop by every day.

Maybe I will start dropping references from times past. For example, today I sliced like a large war mattock. I also tore one of my good shirts. Can a guy get a shirt around here?

Posted by: meh at June 22, 2026 06:47 AM (kK7U2)

85 Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.

A platform with a 360 degree laser trigger that sets off high explosives when tripped from 10 ft or closer. The liability questions here are a bit problematic but probably could be a handled by safety stickers similar to what is used for airbags.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 06:48 AM (ffi9I)

86 The UK is enjoying the English translation of "The Camp of the Saints."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 06:48 AM (qFwJc)

87 Punishments will be increased until morale improves.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 06:49 AM (qFwJc)

88 And then there's:

Prime Minister of Australia

The current prime minister is Anthony Albanese of the Australian Labor Party, who assumed office on 23 May 2022.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:55 AM (6wpGE)

89

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 22, 2026 06:56 AM (A46K3)

90 85 Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.

A platform with a 360 degree laser trigger that sets off high explosives when tripped from 10 ft or closer. The liability questions here are a bit problematic but probably could be a handled by safety stickers similar to what is used for airbags.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 06:48 AM (ffi9I)

How easy is it to set, tho.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:56 AM (6wpGE)

91 Camela says the word "hope" should be a verb. She did not bring up the word "dope".

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2026 06:58 AM (vFG9F)

92 @85/Alteria Pilgram: "A platform with a 360 degree laser trigger that sets off high explosives when tripped from 10 ft or closer."

Someone needs to tell CBD, this could fix all his house problems in his First World Problems threads!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:58 AM (O7YUW)

93 Okay, I gotta go whoosh. Work beckons. Last 4 days of driving "Mamma's little darlin's" for this school year.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:59 AM (O7YUW)

94 I'm watching Sky News' coverage of Keir Starmer committing the British version of political seppaku. I am surprised by two things. First, everyone is acting surprisedthis has happened again. Second, that nobody is suggesting the Brits need better PMs, ones that actually govern for the British people instead of governing for the knife and rape gang colonizers. I am disappointed that Starmer was not required to give his resignation speech while in full clown makeup and wearing nothing but high heels and fishnet stockings.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 06:59 AM (ffi9I)

95 Last 4 days of driving "Mamma's little darlin's" for this school year.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant

Perhaps some day, the Powers That Be will add the ejection seats to the bus.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 07:03 AM (RjOoY)

96 NaCly if you are still around I would love to continue our conversation. Email me at jack471 at bellsouth dot net and we can exchange information. That goes for the rest of the family from the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: Buck at June 22, 2026 07:07 AM (z6ONu)

97 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 22, 2026 07:09 AM (Ov6Yl)

98 96 NaCly if you are still around I would love to continue our conversation. Email me at jack471 at bellsouth dot net and we can exchange information. That goes for the rest of the family from the NoVaMoMe.
Posted by: Buck at June 22, 2026 07:07 AM (z6ONu)

62 Have a great day, everyone.

I have preps for my flight home after the MoMeet of pleasant memories.

May you be blessed with your week as well.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:21 AM (whRlH)

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:10 AM (6wpGE)

99 >>>Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.

A platform with a 360 degree laser trigger that sets off high explosives when tripped from 10 ft or closer. The liability questions here are a bit problematic but probably could be a handled by safety stickers similar to what is used for airbags.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions

>Sounds like a perfect task for AI. Roborat. Fornicate them to death.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 07:11 AM (fkjGs)

100 100

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:11 AM (6wpGE)

101 Good morning morons from Boulder CO

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:15 AM (mWKAz)

102 101 Good morning morons from Boulder CO
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:15 AM (mWKAz)

That's very bould of you!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:16 AM (6wpGE)

103
35 32 I still think that behind the scenes, they hit him with the really nasty blackmail video or pictures that were taken and set aside for just such a day and said to him, "You can resign, or you can resign in utter disgrace, your choice."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

They didn’t need to. A popular Labour Party member, Burnham, won a by election to get a seat in Parliament, and beat Reform pretty easily. Reportedly all of Starmers cabinet ministers told Starmer he had this week to get out or they would lead the vote to throw him out. Burnham will be his replacement.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:17 AM (nuNhM)

104 > Good morning morons from Boulder CO

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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DUDE WHAT ARE YOU DOING

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 07:18 AM (15Vi2)

105 Good morning Horde. Thx Pixy.
Alan Greenspan is mort. 100yrs old
Andrea Mitchell is available. Too soon?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 07:18 AM (Iurxt)

106 Good morning from a very overcast and humid Ozarks.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 22, 2026 07:21 AM (ZHOnm)

107 77 England needs Oliver Cromwell again
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 06:40 AM (sgkY8

It needs to stop with the diversity shit and deport the muslim army

Posted by: night lifted at June 22, 2026 07:21 AM (kJmLc)

108 Andrea Mitchell is available. Too soon?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 07:18 AM (Iurxt)

Yeah, Mitchell being available would be too soon for anyone...

Posted by: Boswell at June 22, 2026 07:21 AM (NTVPI)

109 Some of the fans at the US Open yesterday lacked class. It’s okay to root for your preferred player and cheer his good shots… but some fans were openly cheering for the ultimate winner’s shots to go into rough or bunkers and cheering when he hit bad shots… no class

On the last hole rather than cheer the guy in the lead as he approached the last green they sang happy birthday to the guy 4 shots back who has no way to win. BTW, I like Scottie Scheffler a lot and wish he would’ve won but he was out of contention at that point…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 07:22 AM (yz/88)

110 Wonder if PDT is sitting quietly, not commenting on the Starmer resignation.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:23 AM (6wpGE)

111 - android question

Couple times a week it seems, only when I come here in the morning, a pop up appears...

KEY CHAIN
Chrome is checking certificates

Fades, comes back. Fades, comes back...
Screen is frozen and only way to get rid of it is restart my phone.

Any knowledge appreciated.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 22, 2026 07:23 AM (ev5l/)

112 Starmer is out. Smart decision. Who would want to be in charge of that clusterfuck.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 07:25 AM (fkjGs)

113 Andy Burnhamn joined the labor party at age 15 and has spent every waking minute since then being exactly the same guy as Keir Starmer. When he's elected as PM and it seems that will be the case, nothing is going to change. Plus the bonus round is he apparently hates Trump and calls him poisonous.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 07:25 AM (ffi9I)

114 Nood JJ

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 22, 2026 07:26 AM (qZb7K)

115 113 Andy Burnhamn joined the labor party at age 15 and has spent every waking minute since then being exactly the same guy as Keir Starmer. When he's elected as PM and it seems that will be the case, nothing is going to change. Plus the bonus round is he apparently hates Trump and calls him poisonous.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 07:25 AM (ffi9I)

yikes

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:26 AM (6wpGE)

116 The UK is gone, it doesn’t matter who is PM. Even Nigel Farage couldn’t fix it; certainly none of their political class can… they’re all clones. This Burnham guy is another Starmer, perhaps less wooden. No Thatcher out there to save the day… kinda sad but their voters have been digging this hole for decades. The numb skulls threw out Churchill after WWII and it’s been generally downhill since with only the respite from Thatcher applying some brakes on the downhill

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 07:29 AM (yz/88)

117 The fag is out in England? Good bye fag, we hardly knew ye. Hopefully the next PM of Englandenstan will not be a homo. Or a moslem. Or both.

Posted by: Out With The Fag at June 22, 2026 07:29 AM (g7saB)

118 I don't think even Nigel can turn the UK around. May I be mistaken.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:04 AM (whRlH)

During the campaign, he flatly stated that he's looking for immigration reform, not any mass deportations, and that he wants his coalition to build Muslim support, not alienate them.

Perhaps someone else will rise up and demand a Britain for the British, but it won't be Farage.

I expect Reform's approach to deportations will be less aggressive than Trump's, not more.

He was good on Brexit, but he's not exactly strong on immigration - his Party is succeeding by offering the less blatantly insane approach to the problem.

If they (or us, for that matter) want to "turn things around," a whole lot of people have to be sent packing, and nobody yet seems to have the political will for this kind of dramatic reversal of globalist policy orthodoxy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (BI5O2)

119 118 I don't think even Nigel can turn the UK around. May I be mistaken.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:04 AM (whRlH)

During the campaign, he flatly stated that he's looking for immigration reform, not any mass deportations, and that he wants his coalition to build Muslim support, not alienate them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (BI5O2)

he = Farage?

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:33 AM (6wpGE)

120 The rest of your post suggests that, but I'm not sure if I'm misreading.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:33 AM (6wpGE)

121 he = Farage?
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:33 AM (6wpGE)

Yes - he wanted to calm people's fears that Reform would send Precious Foreigners packing.

He may have succeeded at that, but it also tells me he's not serious about reversing any damage, just slowing it down.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 07:36 AM (BI5O2)

122 121 he = Farage?
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:33 AM (6wpGE)

Yes - he wanted to calm people's fears that Reform would send Precious Foreigners packing.

He may have succeeded at that, but it also tells me he's not serious about reversing any damage, just slowing it down.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 07:36 AM (BI5O2)

Thanks.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:37 AM (6wpGE)

123 Microsoft--threat or menace? More frustrations with Beelink that have happened because MS likely uses AI to write system updates.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 22, 2026 07:39 AM (CHHv1)

124 Anthropic’s most powerful artificial intelligence model reportedly breached ‘almost all’ US classified systems in a matter of hours, according to Senator Mark Warner, who says the head of the National Security Agency told him directly that the model had penetrated nearly every classified system it was tested against. The claim has not been publicly confirmed by any government agency.

Senator Mark Warner, vice-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said on 11 June that General Joshua Rudd, who leads both the NSA and the Pentagon’s Cyber Command, told him directly that Anthropic’s Mythos model ‘broke into almost all of our classified systems, not in weeks, but in hours.’ The extent of the alleged breach and which specific systems were affected have not been publicly disclosed. Anthropic did not respond to a request for comment.

The warning emerged alongside an abrupt move by the Trump administration to block foreign access to Anthropic’s two most advanced models, Mythos and Fable.

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:14 AM (O7XEN)

125 hit it!

Posted by: cmeat at June 22, 2026 12:58 PM (R11M+)

Sunday Overnight Open Thread - June 21, 2026 [Doof]

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Howdy Hordelings! Welcome to the Sunday ONT. Hope you enjoyed the first official day of summer. Open thread, as always. Fashion and music, as always. What's on YOUR mind tonight?

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Happy Father's Day

Becoming your dad



Some dads are just dicks



What a moment for this dad



Another great father / son moment at the US Open



Preparing the new dads

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It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.

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The Glamour Dash at Royal Ascot: Hats, Horses, Henry’s Vintage Flex… and That Viral Video

Oh the Royal Ascot, where the dress code is stricter than a Victorian nanny armed with a ruler. Ladies drifted in like elegant cupcakes wrapped in silk, lace, and hemlines that stayed politely north of scandal. Gentlemen arrived in flawless morning dress: tails, waistcoats, and top hats tilted with mathematical precision while sporting some truly fun ties.

Two of my favorite ties belonged to Mike Tindall and the Duke of Edinburgh.
Mike wore an E. Marinella pink classic silk tie in the Small Flower pattern.

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The Duke of Edinburgh once again delivered in his signature “Racing Colours and Saddles on Pastel Ground” tie by Soprano, a piece he has worn every year for the last 12 years.

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Among the dresses, two stood out: Princess Catherine’s rewear of a gorgeous marigold Roksanda Brigitte dress (not everyone could pull that one off) and Zara Tindall’s utterly charming bespoke Claire Mischevani Poppy Dress in Polka Dot.
Alongside the bright yellow dress, Princess Catherine wore a Jane Taylor London Pomona hat, Queen Elizabeth II’s Diamond Chandelier Earrings, and a Nigel Milne Birthright Three-Strand Pearl Bracelet. She carried an Anya Hindmarch Maud Pearl-Embellished Clutch Bag in Ivory and finished the look with Gianvito Rossi Gianvito 105 Pumps in Bisque Suede.

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Zara Tindall paired her polka-dot dress with a bespoke Sally Ann Hats Ariel Hat (retail version shown), Hector Lion Cassis Collection Croissant Earrings, and a Mulberry Amberley Clutch in Black Small Classic Grain leather. Her shoes were the Emmy Rebecca Pump in Jet Black Suede.

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Then Henry Cavill arrived with his… um, watch, and the internet promptly lost the ability to behave. The watch itself was spectacular: a 1926 Longines Monopusher Chronograph. But honestly, the video says it all

In the end, Royal Ascot proved once again that while the hats are huge, the horses are fast, and the royalty is royal, nothing, and I mean nothing, can compete with a 6’1 superhero in morning dress casually flexing a vintage chronograph on his wrist. 😉

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1 Yeah

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:07 PM (uTEOj)

2 Mixolidum Datrium Dichlorinidesulfate

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:08 PM (iLKq8)

3 late so not first

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at June 21, 2026 10:08 PM (g14+z)

4
*big band theme music*

Sunday ONT with the Doofster and the Ghost!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (O0L8i)

5 Longest day of the year? So, it's going to start cooling off now, right?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (1Ff7Z)

6 Must've watched Ken Burns' PBS series on the Revolution.

Joy Reid: “Nobody black I know is really excited about the 4th of July."

“It is the celebration of slaveholders who freed themselves from having to pay taxes to the Crown for their slave empire."

Reid was considered a 'mainstream media’ personality for years.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (ndZc7)

7 and she dissolved before their eyes

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (iLKq8)

8 Awww! The dress looked a dad was so cute!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (OoFl2)

9 Lots of toffs and swells in tonight's fashion cavalcade.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (u/oMr)

10 Preparing the New Dad could have fit in the Gun Thread today.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (qx7Zg)

11 One thing is for damn sure, Rush knows how to pick drummers.

https://tinyurl.com/2fds9s7n

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (XV/Pl)

12 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (ItpVy)

13 Holy cows! Now I can leisurely puruse DOOF! Anand Piper!
Yay again!😜

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (uTEOj)

14 Proof white people can't dance.

https://tinyurl.com/msy2pvyj

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:11 PM (ndZc7)

15 Attention! Our mascot has the zoomies.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:11 PM (OoFl2)

16 Like a DAD! Miss mine💔

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (uTEOj)

17 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (2YhKe)

18
Missed Mass today because my driveway was under six inches of water this morning. Washed Puff and Ruth and cleaned their pen. Exhausted afterwards. Driveway was still under water later in the afternoon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (O0L8i)

19 Hola, Hall.

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (77rzZ)

20 Thanks for the ONT, Doof! Again!

I can live with those rules and do so each day.

Posted by: LRob in OK at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (Jr+re)

21 Saw this earlier today, and had to share it. I'm going to step away for a bit, so enjoy.
=====
The doctor told my 96-year-old great-grandfather that he had to "quit all high-adrenaline activities" because of his blood pressure. I found him in the driveway, trying to jump his mobility scooter over a row of flaming trash cans.

He shouted over the engine, "The doctor said no adrenaline, but my heart is so old it needs a jump-start! I'm just 'defibrillating' my soul. Now, move the cat, I need a longer runway!"

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:13 PM (qx7Zg)

22 Longest day of the year? So, it's going to start cooling off now, right?
-
Maybe not but at least the sun will let us sleep longer.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 10:13 PM (vSvIl)

23 I thought she said rearwear. I need glasses.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:13 PM (iLKq8)

24 I thought Weasel shot Doof in the last thread?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:13 PM (2YhKe)

25 Howdy everyone. Even you, Sponge.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (QMAsf)

26 Good evening Horde. Thanks Disco and Piper!

Posted by: TRex - NoVaMoMe hangover dino at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

27 Geez...that darn Gary dad...what kind of goose acts like this?!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (uTEOj)

28 Oh, no! First Piper and now Doof . . . . can we go on?

Posted by: LRob in OK at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (Jr+re)

29 So, I have been effectively ordered to attend the TXMoMe.

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (77rzZ)

30 Howdy all. Wish I could have made the NoVMoMee, maybe next year. Have dreams to make it to Corsicana, time will tell.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (55Qr6)

31 Evening Horde. Doof, dearly departed Piper, good to see you haunting us!

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (aJQbY)

32 omg, the bread song

:-(

Posted by: cherries in season at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (Ozvnh)

33 My wardrobe cries out for a top hat and a monocle.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (u/oMr)

34 It is the celebration of slaveholders who freed themselves from having to pay taxes to the Crown for their slave empire

The take of someone actively seeking to be pissed-off all the time. What a way to live.

Posted by: Halfhand at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (6RaZt)

35 Geez...that darn Gary dad...what kind of goose acts like this?!
Posted by: COMountainMarie

All of them. Goslings optional.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (VHUov)

36 Evening, Doof, and Piper, and ONT Horde!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (1z8ji)

37 Piper, Splendid owes you a commission. The short-sleeve cardigan you posted last week was already out of stock when I tried to buy last week. Very impresssive!

Posted by: EveR at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (wTevN)

38 Wait - am I dead?

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

39 I don't think I ever told my dad, out loud in words, that I was proud of him. So I made sure to tell my son.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (vTZFs)

40 I'm doing a marathon viewing of Adam Carolla movies ( all two of them) .

Finished Road Hard which was really good . In the middle of The Hammer. Also really good. He needs to make another movie.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (KC5Lt)

41 38 Wait - am I dead?
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

Oh no…..

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (OoFl2)

42
Wait - am I dead?

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

___________

*flips pages on clipboard*

Says here you ought to be.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (O0L8i)

43 The take of someone actively seeking to be pissed-off all the time. What a way to live.
Posted by: Halfhand at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (6RaZt)

Funny, I don't see a chain keeping her here.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (1Ff7Z)

44 Wait - am I dead?


No. Just "mostly" dead . . . . .

Posted by: LRob in OK at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (Jr+re)

45 Loved that video of the young man donning Dadwear under the tutelage of the wise elder.

-Tucks in shirt *nods approval*
-White socks *yes, my child! It is time*
-Pulls laces so tight it cuts off circulation

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (kpS4V)

46 All the chillens called or texted today. That was nice.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (ItpVy)

47 30 Howdy all. Wish I could have made the NoVMoMee, maybe next year. Have dreams to make it to Corsicana, time will tell.

----------

Most Morons never make the Hajj to Corsicana, even though the AoSHQ Big Book of Guidelines says you should do it at least once in your life.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (u/oMr)

48 37 Piper, Splendid owes you a commission. The short-sleeve cardigan you posted last week was already out of stock when I tried to buy last week. Very impresssive!
Posted by: EveR at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (wTevN

Did you try Nordstrom?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (OoFl2)

49 The fireflies are out, everyone else is in bed, time for knitting! I have 14 inches to go before July 11 (cringe).

Posted by: pookysgirl, getting set up at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (Wt5PA)

50 Wait - am I dead?
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

Oh no…..
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (OoFl2)

Well, if YOU'RE answering me, I must be.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (QMAsf)

51 Y’all know not to trust CBD, because he’s a fed, right?

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:19 PM (77rzZ)

52 Princess Catherine's dress seems kind of... shear, is that the word?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 10:19 PM (/lPRQ)

53 Wait - am I dead?
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

Oh no…..
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (OoFl2)

Well, if YOU'RE answering me, I must be.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (QMAsf)

If you're not, I have to put the cart back.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (1Ff7Z)

54 I have 14 inches to go before July 11 (cringe).
Posted by: pookysgirl, getting set up at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (Wt5PA)

---------

I hope you're making a sock.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (u/oMr)

55 Howdy everyone. Even you, Sponge.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM


===========


It's good to belong.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (2YhKe)

56 I am surprised Doof let me post the Cavill video. You didn’t even watch it, did you?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (OoFl2)

57 Most Morons never make the Hajj to Corsicana, even though the AoSHQ Big Book of Guidelines says you should do it at least once in your life.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (u/oMr)

I'm glad I went multiple times before I died. I kindly request some of my ashes by scattered in the camper section of the ranch.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (QMAsf)

58
shear, is that the word?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 10:19 PM (/lPRQ)

___________

Diaphanous, that's the word.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:21 PM (O0L8i)

59 Wait - am I dead?
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)
************
Thank goodness I checked in, otherwise I might have missed the news.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 10:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

60 Where do I find the undead pickleball courts?
— Zombie Doof

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:21 PM (77rzZ)

61 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (sAmhv)

62 I do miss Doof tho.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (2YhKe)

63 So, I have been effectively ordered to attend the TXMoMe.
Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (77rzZ)
----
It's a great time, for sure. Contact Ben Had for details.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (+1HQm)

64 I'm glad I went multiple times before I died. I kindly request some of my ashes by scattered in the camper section of the ranch.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (QMAsf)

Let’s go haunt it!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (OoFl2)

65 I am surprised Doof let me post the Cavill video. You didn’t even watch it, did you?
Posted by: Piper

Oh I watched it. Mr. Cavill was sporting more than a spiffy watch. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (lJ0H4)

66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (Riz8t)

67 I am surprised Doof let me post the Cavill video. You didn’t even watch it, did you?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (OoFl2)

Nope. I don't even know who he is.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (QMAsf)

68 Somebody likes yella.

Heard some folks are under water and also heard Utah is on fire. Crazy weather.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (IY9No)

69 67 I am surprised Doof let me post the Cavill video. You didn’t even watch it, did you?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (OoFl2)

Nope. I don't even know who he is.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:22

He is Superman! You should watch it. Or maybe don’t.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (OoFl2)

70
Or perhaps that's just my imagination.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (Riz8t)

___________

Well, you're a guy...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (O0L8i)

71 Our summer is starting with 2 inches of rain. Thankfully I got half the garlic in before the rain started.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (UQRAm)

72 Nope. I don't even know who he is.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (QMAsf)

----------

He has a well-worn meme where he says "FUCK"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (u/oMr)

73 I feel responsible for Doof's passing. Get in your Doof jokes while they're still relevant!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (+1HQm)

74 I'm glad I went multiple times before I died. I kindly request some of my ashes by scattered in the camper section of the ranch.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM
***
Next to the port o potties? Tell ya what. For five bucks, I'll try to intervene and at least upgrade you to the 100 yard marker.

Posted by: TRex - helpful dino at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

75 Oh my, Cavill was loaded for bear.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (kpS4V)

76 Did you try Nordstrom?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (OoFl2)

Thx! I will. Love that short, boxy look.

Posted by: EveR at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (wTevN)

77 66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (Riz8t)

I actually didn’t notice that at the time. But that girl still runs, obviously.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (OoFl2)

78 14 Proof white people can't dance.

https://tinyurl.com/msy2pvyj

Another pasty white liberal politician who thinks the black folks are cool with her and think she's one of them.

They do not.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (Riz8t)

79 22 Longest day of the year? So, it's going to start cooling off now, right?
--

Reminds of that Stevie Wonder song, Hotter Than July,
you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (iLKq8)

80 To wit:

https://youtu.be/jGLW6o6zQfg?is=B7M1qGh6DOzfFpWG

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (u/oMr)

81 I feel responsible for Doof's passing. Get in your Doof jokes while they're still relevant!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (+1HQm)

*sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*

Posted by: Doof's ghost at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (QMAsf)

82 75 Oh my, Cavill was loaded for bear.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at

It’s quite the watch!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (OoFl2)

83 Rules for guys....
I've been so lucky, starting with my dad, to have had many wonderful men who happily lived by these credences! Bless them each and every one..
I was usually the asshole😏..


Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (uTEOj)

84
I feel responsible for Doof's passing.

____________

Is that involuntary homicide or manslaughter?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (O0L8i)

85
*sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*
Posted by: Doof's ghost at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (QMAsf)
---/
Oh great.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:27 PM (+1HQm)

86 Thanks for a special Father's Day edition of the Sunday Night ONT, Doof! Happy Father's Day to you!

And thanks to Piper for the Ascot fashion report. Well done, as always.

Fabulous photo up top!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 21, 2026 10:27 PM (D/6p1)

87 62 Sponge, whom do you miss more, Doof or Piper?

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:27 PM (77rzZ)

88 Doof is in a better place.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:27 PM (u/oMr)

89 Reminds of that Stevie Wonder song, Hotter Than July,
you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (iLKq

There's plenty of hot left in this year.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (1Ff7Z)

90 *sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*
Posted by: Doof's ghost
*****
Careful, I understand there are bear and bobcat that visit....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (IQ6Gq)

91 Next to the port o potties? Tell ya what. For five bucks, I'll try to intervene and at least upgrade you to the 100 yard marker.
Posted by: TRex - helpful dino at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

Dead men have no cash

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (QMAsf)

92 77 66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.
Posted by: Archimedes
---

Hemlines, balderdash, smallderdash

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (iLKq8)

93 If that was my dad being my caddy he would have handed my a driver on the green, and said "impress me" with a typical dad laugh.

Also, seems fitting that Father's Day falls on the longest day of the year. Have the feminists complained yet about Mother's Day getting short changed?

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2026 10:29 PM (dIske)

94 92 77 66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.
Posted by: Archimedes

----------

It would appear that she has nice thighs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:29 PM (u/oMr)

95 That video of the baby as artillery is beyond precious! Extra points for the ghillie suit!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 21, 2026 10:30 PM (D/6p1)

96 Is that involuntary homicide or manslaughter?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (O0L8i)

I caught the end of the gun thread waiting for the ONT. I think it was a joke, therefore not murder, but mans laughter.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:30 PM (1Ff7Z)

97
Here, the 3rd week in July is the hottest period, although often early August, dog days, feels worse due to the humilarity.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (w6EFb)

98 96 Is that involuntary homicide or manslaughter?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (O0L8i)

I caught the end of the gun thread waiting for the ONT. I think it was a joke, therefore not murder, but mans laughter.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:30

Oh, that was good!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (OoFl2)

99 Hello.

Well, that hiddenclick music is quite a juxtaposition to the tranquility of the top pic.


Just got back from a nice dinner out with the keeds. Warms this daddy's heart.♥

Posted by: mindful webworker - every day is Our Father's Day at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (9bb3y)

100 I do miss Doof tho.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (2YhKe)

I expect a recurring "pour one out" for me from the usual MoMe After Dark crew

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (QMAsf)

101 I believe the Haj mandate is for "everyone who is physically able to do so."

Alas, I'm claiming that loophole for the mandatory Haj to Corsicana. I'm just too old & decrepit to do that kind of traveling.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (RCjYY)

102 *sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*
Posted by: Doof's ghost

Oh great.
Posted by: Weasel

Well, now you can blame wobbly shit on poltergeist activity.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:33 PM (VHUov)

103 Thanks for the ONT, Doof!

Happy Father's Day and RIP *bows head*

That final meme was perhaps the greatest gift of the day, as I realized my eldest son now checks off that entire list...

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 10:33 PM (6lIrI)

104 Still watching the US Open. My work schedule has me working through every weekend. I already know that Wyndham Clark won his second US Open. He was treated poorly by the NY crowd. I understand due to some of his antics over the years. He's up front about it and has apologized and made restitution (Oakmont CC especially). Hopefully, he'll stop with the dumb shit and have a long and successful career. Love the looks of those Long Island golf courses around Shinnecock. Too bad I'm poor white trash. No way I'm getting on any of them.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 10:34 PM (sAmhv)

105 Guess I'd miss Doof more since I've known him longer.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:34 PM (2YhKe)

106 Well, now you can blame wobbly shit on poltergeist activity.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:33 PM (VHUov)
-----
Excellent point.

*Dammit Doof!*

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:34 PM (+1HQm)

107 Yay, Father's Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2026 10:35 PM (+9wcF)

108 I expect a recurring "pour one out" for me from the usual MoMe After Dark crew
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM


============


That would be alcohol abuse and a major party foul.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:35 PM (2YhKe)

109
My wardrobe cries out for a top hat and a monocle.
Posted by: Cicero

Are you wearing a peanut shell?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 10:35 PM (Cqx++)

110 Oh, that was good!
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (OoFl2)

Thanks. That gave me one of the few smiles of the day.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:37 PM (1Ff7Z)

111 Piper, then Doof, have died? It's obvious that there is a serial killer on this board.

(pulls out pipe, starts sleuthing)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 10:37 PM (sAmhv)

112 And Happy Father's Day to all you dads of The Horde.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:38 PM (2YhKe)

113 I expect a recurring "pour one out" for me from the usual MoMe After Dark crew

Well, I'm sure they already "pour one out" for kale smoothies for Piper... cuz noone can drink that stuff!

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 10:38 PM (aJQbY)

114 @93. Have the feminists complained.......

They always complain.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 10:38 PM (IY9No)

115 I was thinking more along the lines of Mr. Monopoly, but if the legume fits...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:39 PM (u/oMr)

116 I think most of it missed Doof. He wasn't in the area because he parked, pining to play Rush.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:40 PM (qx7Zg)

117 The "Becoming Your Dad" video could have used the first movement of Octavarium, "Someone Like Him," for background music. If they stretched it to 3 minutes long.

https://youtu.be/XYV8Zt2k0RQ

(Lyrics don't start until 5:30)

I never wanted to become someone like him
So secure!
Content to live each day just like the last
I was sure I knew that
This was not for me
And I wanted so much more
Far beyond what I could see
So I swore that I'd
Never be someone like him

1/3

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:40 PM (VHUov)

118 So many years have passed
Since I proclaimed my independence
My mission, My aim, And my vision
So secure!
Content to live each day like it's my last
It's wonderful to know that I could be
Something more than what I dreamed
Far beyond what I could see

Still I swear that I'm
Missing out this time

2/3

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:41 PM (VHUov)

119
As far as I could tell
There's nothing more I need
But still I ask myself
Could this be everything?
Then all I swore
That I would never be was now
So suddenly
The only thing
I wanted
To become

.....to be someone just like him.

3/3

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:41 PM (VHUov)

120 so in mid October, "Hellraiser: Revival" is coming out. First-person action horror survival game, cowritten by Clive Barker. It concerns the Genesis Configuration.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 10:42 PM (gKWVE)

121 *sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*
Posted by: Doof's ghost

Oh great.
Posted by: Weasel

At least he didn't choose your home, where he could wing up FSJ and Gertie, and smoke your stogies.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:42 PM (qx7Zg)

122 .... wing up FSJ and Gertie ...

Should be

... wind up FSJ and Gertie ...

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:43 PM (qx7Zg)

123
I miss Doof.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:45 PM (O0L8i)

124 I watched my first ever Pirates of the Caribbean movie today-- the first one. The series has grossed $4.5 billion so far, according to Wiki.

Then I refreshed my memory as to what Johnny Depp has been up to these last 15 years or so. Yikes. If I had $75 million, I think I could do better.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:46 PM (RCjYY)

125
... wind up FSJ and Gertie ...
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:43 PM (qx7Zg)
-----
They're highly trained and effective watch dogs!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:48 PM (GNqmQ)

126 Then I refreshed my memory as to what Johnny Depp has been up to these last 15 years or so. Yikes. If I had $75 million, I think I could do better.
Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:46 PM

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He pissed off a woman enough she shit on his bed.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:48 PM (2YhKe)

127 @123. I miss Doof.

Well you could be with him.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 10:51 PM (IY9No)

128 He pissed off a woman enough she shit on his bed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:48 PM (2YhKe)
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That may be a message.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:52 PM (GNqmQ)

129 126

Yes, and then there was the really bad stuff!

If you're rich, filing a lot of lawsuits is like a bad drug habit. Of course, Mr. Depp filed a lot of lawsuits AND had a bad drug habit.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:52 PM (RCjYY)

130 There's plenty of hot left in this year.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (1Ff7Z)
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It can show up anytime. My tomatoes would enjoy that.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 21, 2026 10:52 PM (UQRAm)

131 Happy Fathers Day.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2026 10:54 PM (sn5xH)

132 Bedtime in my corner of the afterlife. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:54 PM (OoFl2)

133 Got kicked out...or just messed up my ONT post.
To all dads coming along.
To the dads we've loved and lost...
To dads who fought and lived or died for us💔

It's fitting that the first day of summer - longest day of the year...
Should be DADs day!!!

Screw 🌈 month ha😜!



Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:59 PM (uTEOj)

134 Lord willing I'm planning to make the MoMe in October.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2026 11:00 PM (Ov6Yl)

135 Lord willing I'm planning to make the MoMe in October.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2026 11:00 PM (Ov6Yl)

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Good times.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 11:01 PM (2YhKe)

136 It's fitting that the first day of summer - longest day of the year...
Should be DADs day!!!

Screw 🌈 month ha😜!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:59 PM (uTEOj)

If you live in Indiana, it's officially Nuclear Family Month. Might be in other states.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

137 If you live in Indiana, it's officially Nuclear Family Month. Might be in other states.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Even if it's not, party like it is!

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

138 It can show up anytime. My tomatoes would enjoy that.
Posted by: Black JEM at June 21, 2026 10:52 PM (UQRAm)

The heat's killed mine pretty much. A few left on the vines ripening. Once I pick them, I'm ripping out the plants and trying again in September.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 11:05 PM (1Ff7Z)

139
If you live in Indiana, it's officially Nuclear Family Month. Might be in other states.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

_____________

*men gasp*
*women faint*
*dogs howl*

During Pride Month? How homophobic can you get?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 11:06 PM (O0L8i)

140 Rarely do I make a request of the type I'm about to make.

Due to my own shortcomings, and a moment of madness 6 years ago, I've been estranged from my two sons (41 and 36).

I have tried my best over the past 6 years to reach out to them, to apologize, and ask their forgiveness.

All to no avail.

I would like to ask the Horde to pray for their hearts to open, to allow me to properly apologize, and and to try be the father I should have been.

This year has been especially hard not being able to be part of their lives, and ... well it just hurts.

They're losing their mother to early onset Alzheimers, and I need them to know I'm a better person today, than I was then, that I can be counted on.

***Sigh***

Posted by: browndog downcast at June 21, 2026 11:07 PM (3sXRv)

141 Anand Piper!

Is that the Indian subcontinent version of Piper?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 11:08 PM (ZVgZ4)

142 126 Then I refreshed my memory as to what Johnny Depp has been up to these last 15 years or so. Yikes. If I had $75 million, I think I could do better.
Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:46 PM

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He pissed off a woman enough she shit on his bed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer


TBF, she was a lunatic. She probably did that to all her mates.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 11:10 PM (sAmhv)

143
***Sigh***

Posted by: browndog downcast at June 21, 2026 11:07 PM (3sXRv)

_____________

Sorry, man. Hoping you and yours can overcome this incident and restore your relationship.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 11:11 PM (O0L8i)

144 85. Oh great.
Posted by: Weasel

🤣

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 11:12 PM (NFX2v)

145 browndog downcast

Sad to hear. Will do.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 11:13 PM (sAmhv)

146 Sending prayers your way, Browndog. Estrangrment from one's children is a heartache. I hope things change for the better.

Posted by: fly gal at June 21, 2026 11:13 PM (U6vhD)

147 ***Sigh***
Posted by: browndog downcast at June 21, 2026 11:07 PM (3sXRv)
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Hashem always hears the prayers of a broken heart.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 11:13 PM (mWKAz)

148 140 brown dog🙏
You know there will be many....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 11:14 PM (uTEOj)

149 Prayers for you and your boys, Browndog.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 11:14 PM (2YhKe)

150 Prayers, Browndog.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 11:14 PM (VHUov)

151 Sorry, man. Hoping you and yours can overcome this incident and restore your relationship.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 11:11 PM (O0L8i)

I echo that sentiment.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:16 PM (1z8ji)

152 So, just ran across something horrifying.

Islamic end-days prophecy has something called the 'Dabbah Min Al-Ard'. Literally, the 'Beast of the Earth', showing up fairly late. And guess what! It marks people! Said marking is an irrevocable act. Except that in Islam's version, they're taught to want it...

Posted by: Anonymous at June 21, 2026 11:16 PM (wiYsG)

153 Except that in Islam's version, they're taught to want it...

Posted by: Anonymous
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They work for it. everyday

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:18 PM (iLKq8)

154 So sad for you, browndog.

I will pray for peace and courage and reconciliation.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 11:18 PM (A5RD0)

155 Me too, BD.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 11:19 PM (RCjYY)

156 New Hampshire’s first transgender elected Rep., Stacie Laughton (D) [MPB alert], sentenced to 33 YEARS in prison for the s*xual exploitation of children
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Dirt Farm NH has a booth at Weare Patriotic Celebration. A local couple started this group to teach kids to ride dirt bikes for free on their private property.

https://tinyurl.com/mt4vrxa2

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:21 PM (iLKq8)

157 Dressing like a dad. I recommend Skechers slip-ons.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:21 PM (oq9dX)

158 Then I refreshed my memory as to what Johnny Depp has been up to these last 15 years or so. Yikes. If I had $75 million, I think I could do better.
Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:46 PM (RCjYY)

There was a famous audio file on the net a few years ago, of a heated argument between Johnny Depp and his financial manager. (Who I think is the one who released it)
In it Depp accuses the manager of squandering his money and leaving him broke, even though he’d made $100 million in the previous year. The manager fires back, with figures and specific things Depp had done, and said “Johnny, you can’t spend $20 million a month and expect to have anything left, no matter how much you start with!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:23 PM (nuNhM)

159
Dressing like a dad. I recommend Skechers slip-ons.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:21 PM (oq9dX)

____________

No more shoes with laces.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 11:25 PM (O0L8i)

160 He pissed off a woman enough she shit on his bed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer


TBF, she was a lunatic. She probably did that to all her mates.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come
.......

She was just prepping them for butt stuff.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:25 PM (oq9dX)

161 Islamic end-days prophecy has something called the 'Dabbah Min Al-Ard'. Literally, the 'Beast of the Earth', showing up fairly late. And guess what! It marks people! Said marking is an irrevocable act. Except that in Islam's version, they're taught to want it...
Posted by: Anonymous at June 21, 2026 11:16 PM (wiYsG)

Let me guess - blue hair and weird tats…

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:25 PM (nuNhM)

162 Frank Gehry es muerto.

Cool buildings, but most of them leaked,

Same with Crank Lloyd Wrong... a building that doesn't keep the rain out is a failure, no matter how much the art critics might like it.

Architecture is very demanding... needs to be esthetic, functional, and economical.

If you can't handle all three, stick with sculpture.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:27 PM (qpyNK)

163 158

Similar to Nick Cage. He sued his business manager. The jury kind of lost interest when they heard Nick had spent appx $10 million (IIRC) for a Mongolian dinosaur skeleton.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 11:28 PM (RCjYY)

164 > Dabbah Min Al-Ard.

Now, see, I would've figured that for a low-budget Flintstones/Scooby Doo crossover.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:29 PM (qpyNK)

165 Dressing like a dad. I recommend Skechers slip-ons.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:21 PM (oq9dX)

Yes. The walkers are fine. Just don't get those old man shoes with the velcro.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 11:30 PM (1Ff7Z)

166 Sorry, browndog. I hope you and they find reconciliation, or, if not that, peace.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:31 PM (qpyNK)

167 For those who are interested, Abelardo De La Espriella has won the Colombian presidential election. He beat out the current Presidents chosen successor, Ivan Cepeda.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (rbvCR)

168 Same with Crank Lloyd Wrong... a building that doesn't keep the rain out is a failure, no matter how much the art critics might like it.

Architecture is very demanding... needs to be esthetic, functional, and economical.

If you can't handle all three, stick with sculpture.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:27 PM (qpyNK)

Were FLW's designs inherently leaky, or were they put up by builders who did not understand what had to be done to make them weathertight?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (1z8ji)

169 TRex and The Grateful dancing in public?

https://youtu.be/NzFqdkBt71I

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (qx7Zg)

170
She was just prepping them for butt stuff.

Hello Fresh!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 11:33 PM (Cqx++)

171 Which song by Bread was in the tweet? I couldn't hear the music or singing.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:33 PM (qx7Zg)

172 > Ivan Cepeda

Great first baseman!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:34 PM (qpyNK)

173 Just use some Flex Seal on those leaky buildings.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 11:35 PM (Cqx++)

174 For those who are interested, Abelardo De La Espriella has won the Colombian presidential election. He beat out the current Presidents chosen successor, Ivan Cepeda.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (rbvCR)

I see Wikipedia and the Grauniad describe him as "far right", so he may be something of a centrist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:36 PM (1z8ji)

175 169

Oh! They have the steps!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 11:37 PM (uTEOj)

176 Same, Browndog...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 11:37 PM (nbLIj)

177 Just read about grammieWinger, she and Rev have been married ten years. Criminy, I remember when they were dating. Be well.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:38 PM (iLKq8)

178 > Were FLW's designs inherently leaky, or were they put up by builders who did not understand what had to be done to make them weathertight?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (1z8ji)

I think it would be very hard to make Fallingwater not leak, especially with 1936 waterproofing technology. The builders bear some responsibility, perhaps.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:38 PM (qpyNK)

179 Were FLW's designs inherently leaky, or were they put up by builders who did not understand what had to be done to make them weathertight?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (1z8ji)

He had a lot of odd roof angles and flat roofs in places, I’ve learned from living in houses with some of these and being around others, that odd roof angles are always points of failure, and flat roofs Always Always Always! leak.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:39 PM (nuNhM)

180 Ivan Cepeda

Great first baseman!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
......

Those Russian Puerto Ricans are the best ball players!

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:40 PM (oq9dX)

181 Petro is an ex terrorist who has a coke problem and a tyranny girlfriend, and is widely considered a communist, so maybe Espriella is a centrist. However he say he is in favor of Bukele'so solution for Elvis Salvador

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 11:40 PM (rbvCR)

182 I want to win the lottery that I may buy a sea worthy shanty boat and have enough money left over for all its fuel needs.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:41 PM (iLKq8)

183 > flat roofs Always Always Always! leak.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:39 PM (nuNhM)

Yep. They suck under snow load, too.

It's rare that we have a snowy winter here without at least a few flat-roofed buildings collapsing.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:41 PM (qpyNK)

184 What happened to grammieWinger???

Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2026 11:41 PM (VCgbV)

185 Thanks for the background on Bread's "Everything I Own." Adding it to a Father's Day playlist. Some others on the list: Hot Rod Lincoln, Memphis, I Loved Her First, Watching You, Unforgettable (with Natalie Cole), Minutes To Memories, Looking Out My Backdoor, and The Living Years ....

Posted by: Rex B at June 21, 2026 11:43 PM (rgnea)

186 flat roofs Always Always Always! leak.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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There is a flat roof house that has been up for auction, in a neighborhood worth living in, over nine months at a price anyone can afford and there are no bidders.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:44 PM (iLKq8)

187 It's the same neighborhood that the house with the spalling brick is in.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:45 PM (iLKq8)

188
It's rare that we have a snowy winter here without at least a few flat-roofed buildings collapsing.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Just spend a couple of extra bucks and put it on a 5 degree slant.
jeepers

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:47 PM (iLKq8)

189 There is a flat roof house that has been up for auction, in a neighborhood worth living in, over nine months at a price anyone can afford and there are no bidders.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:44 PM (iLKq

Many industrial buildings have flat roofs, apartment blocks, too. They don't seem to have insurmountable leakage problems. Why is it an issue with houses?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:47 PM (1z8ji)

190 Our office building has a flat roof. Leaks like a sieve.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:48 PM (oq9dX)

191 Just spend a couple of extra bucks and put it on a 5 degree slant.
jeepers
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:47 PM (iLKq

A five degree slope likely would not let snow slide off.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:49 PM (1z8ji)

192 This is only vaguely related to the architecture comments, but... quite interesting to me.

Some poor bastid & his wife bought Marilyn Monroe's home in L.A. where she died. They were like the 18th owners since MM died in '62. the house had had undergone multiple re-designs.

Nonetheless, the L.A. city council, famed in song & story, recently passed a new law designating the house as a City Cultural Heritage Treasure (or some such).

So... the new, current owner can't remodel it , OR sell it, without Mayor Bass' approval! It's turned into a nightmare. Plus, the new owner is solely responsible for security, which costs a fortune, due to the sightseers.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 11:49 PM (RCjYY)

193 However he say he is in favor of Bukele'so solution for Elvis Salvador

He was great in Viva Lost Wages!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 11:50 PM (1Ff7Z)

194 As 'wth' said, AOP. Obviously a _well-maintained_ flat roof isn't a _guaranteed_ disaster... but you have a good manager, you have a good roof that still might leak if they don't reseal it often enough. You have a bad manager, you have a leaky roof. And for offices? Every year, the trashbag chutes into wastebin watercatchers...

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 11:51 PM (aJQbY)

195 Why is it an issue with houses?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I told Buddy I was going bid on this fantastic buy. He took me to school. Yeah, I worked in a strip center office, nice neighborhood, and it leaked like a sieve. (thought it was a one off)

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:52 PM (iLKq8)

196 So... the new, current owner can't remodel it , OR sell it, without Mayor Bass' approval! It's turned into a nightmare. Plus, the new owner is solely responsible for security, which costs a fortune, due to the sightseers.
Posted by: mnw

He could Always burn it down.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 11:52 PM (A5RD0)

197 So... the new, current owner can't remodel it , OR sell it, without Mayor Bass' approval! It's turned into a nightmare. Plus, the new owner is solely responsible for security, which costs a fortune, due to the sightseers.
Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 11:49 PM (RCjYY)

I foresee an outbreak of financial combustion in the coming months.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:52 PM (1z8ji)

198 Which song by Bread was in the tweet? I couldn't hear the music or singing.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:33 PM (qx7Zg)

Probably this one..dusty..

https://youtu.be/AeadLurGR1U

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (nbLIj)

199 "Fire insurance... yeah, extra insurance... because the reservoirs are dry!" - current owner

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (aJQbY)

200 As a lad, I worked in a new strip mall here in Alaska. It was fine as long as winter lasted and everything was frozen hard, but come spring... Yep, trash cans catching drips everywhere. Merch destroyed. And so on.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (qpyNK)

201 Five degrees and the rain runs off.
But I was going to say, an old time high pitched roof will last forever. Your grand kids will have to re-roof it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (iLKq8)

202 Elvis Salvador! Do we know him?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (ZVgZ4)

203
94 92 77 66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.
Posted by: Archimedes

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It would appear that she has nice thighs.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:29 PM

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Buttix.

Posted by: Jack LaLanne, Fitness Titan at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (mS8PE)

204 > I foresee an outbreak of financial combustion in the coming months.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:52 PM (1z8ji)


Great-Grandpa Borgia always called that "spontaneous combustion caused by the mortgage rubbing against the insurance policy".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:56 PM (qpyNK)

205 But Mayor Bass would approve a frog pond in your front yard.

Posted by: Frog People for Bass at June 21, 2026 11:57 PM (oq9dX)

206 raimondo has been huffing his own farts again...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:58 PM (1z8ji)

207 199 "Fire insurance... yeah, extra insurance... because the reservoirs are dry!" - current owner

Posted by: RandomDave
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I live more than a thousand miles from CA. I buy water bottled from CA. It is the least expensive bottled water of all the grocery stores in town.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:58 PM (iLKq8)

208 But Mayor Bass would approve a frog pond in your front yard.
Posted by: Frog People for Bass at June 21, 2026 11:57 PM (oq9dX)

LOL. Do a deep fake video of Karen Bass eyeballing a big fly that lights on an object near her. Suddenly, her huge tongue darts out, snaffles the fly, and returns to her maw. She chews contentedly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 12:00 AM (1z8ji)

209 I live more than a thousand miles from CA. I buy water bottled from CA. It is the least expensive bottled water of all the grocery stores in town.

Posted by: Braenyard

I drink water out of the tap.

Good enough for me.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 22, 2026 12:02 AM (A5RD0)

210 when you can't defend taco's dump you call names. Pathetic.
Posted by: raimondo at June 22, 2026 12:01 AM (GvOiG)

You need to learn reading comprehension. I called you no names, just suggested that you have been getting high on your own supply.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 12:03 AM (1z8ji)

211 Was there an update about Grammie Winger or The Rev that I missed?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2026 12:09 AM (qx7Zg)

212 A thousand miles:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzMcjKKidMo

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:11 AM (iLKq8)

213 that I missed?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Saturday morning.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:11 AM (iLKq8)

214
Elvis Salvador! Do we know him?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

Is he related to Carmen San Diego?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2026 12:12 AM (Cqx++)

215 New Balance used to make great sneakers.

Used to

Now its crap just like all the other brands.

$$$ and still feels worse then the worn out ones in the back of your closet.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 12:16 AM (sKqQm)

216 Hey Horde, Happy Father's Day!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 12:19 AM (0nHVk)

217 Late posting this, but I always do on Father's Day. So,here 'tis. Chet Atkins. Very poignant.

http://tiny.cc/o3g5101

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2026 12:19 AM (XeU6L)

218 I just realized that I haven't smoked my (tobacco) pipe today. What's the point of having a bad habit if you don't indulge it?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2026 12:23 AM (bhZyo)

219 Elvis Salvador! Do we know him?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
......

I think I saw him at the ER. Fat guy with chrome shades complaining of constipation.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 12:24 AM (oq9dX)

220 Hey, Debby Doberman Schultz, good to see you here, happy daze.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:24 AM (iLKq8)

221 Evenin’, All. Maybe I’ve said that before on this thread.

Anyway, Hi.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 12:26 AM (77rzZ)

222 What's the point of having a bad habit if you don't indulge it?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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You live longer and healthier?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:26 AM (iLKq8)

223 140. Posted by: browndog downcast

Trust in the Lord...Prayers for both of your sons to be open to reconcilation, and for you to find the right words to bring them back into your life, for all of your sakes.

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 12:28 AM (NFX2v)

224 You live longer and healthier?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others


Where's the fun in that?

Posted by: Elvis Salvadoe at June 22, 2026 12:30 AM (oq9dX)

225 Well, 10:30 here, and I am getting a little sleepy. Time to get some sack time. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 12:31 AM (1z8ji)

226 I just realized that I haven't smoked my (tobacco) pipe today. What's the point of having a bad habit if you don't indulge it?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2026 12:23 AM (bhZyo)

My bad habits are automatically activated. I don't even need a daily planner to remember them. My alarm clock is the signal to start them.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2026 12:32 AM (snZF9)

227 216 Hey, DDS!

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 12:34 AM (77rzZ)

228 So I've just come in from sitting on the patio where i was smoking a cuban, and drink 16 year old scotch...
Damn.
I'm glad that i am a dad because this would of sucked if this were mom's day.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 12:36 AM (2WIwB)

229 lol
Just clicked over to Naked and Afraid. Thank goodness they blur out the nasty bits. They should rename that show Uggos on Parade. Bunch of dirty chuds running around with no underwear.

Posted by: Elvis Salvadoe at June 22, 2026 12:40 AM (oq9dX)

230 My bad habits are automatically activated. I don't even need a daily planner to remember them. My alarm clock is the signal to start them.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Bravo

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:40 AM (iLKq8)

231 There are so many ways for a flat roof to go wrong. It starts when you start poking holes in it for plumbing vents, HVAC ducts, and sometimes even (shudder) skylights. Every time there is a change in temperature, the roof will expand and contract, pulling at the edges of the openings.

Next, the roof drains invariably get clogged with wind-borne trash. Ever see a roof drain filled with Styrofoam packing peanuts? I have.

Lastly, when snow melts, it doesn't do so evenly. Water will start running in places you would never imagine.

Like that poor little baby child in the ghetto that Elvis sang about, a flat roof will invariably come to a bad end.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2026 12:40 AM (bhZyo)

232 Night AOP.

This going to bed early stuff isn't really going to work for me. I have been a night owl for most of my life, it is a very tough habit to break.

Hi Braenyard and Bulg et al.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 12:41 AM (0nHVk)

233 Here, the 3rd week in July is the hottest period, although often early August, dog days, feels worse due to the humilarity.
Posted by: publius

S.F.'s record high (106) occurred in 2016 on the Friday of Labor Day weekend. That was hot.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 22, 2026 12:42 AM (DZ9Lv)

234 @EndWokeness - Jun 19

South Bushwick Church in NYC just burned down. 173 years old. Cause not known.

@RealJamesWoods - Jun 20

If anybody with an IQ in the triple digits doesn’t know, I would be shocked.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:42 AM (iLKq8)

235 So I've just come in from sitting on the patio where i was smoking a cuban, and drink 16 year old scotch...

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 12:36 AM (2WIwB)


And then a thought occurred...They ain't doing that in Bangladesh.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2026 12:43 AM (snZF9)

236 So how long before the New British make the toffs wear robes and hijabs at their gatherings?

Posted by: Azjaeger at June 22, 2026 12:45 AM (3/XaG)

237 I erred. It was 9/1/17.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 22, 2026 12:45 AM (DZ9Lv)

238 236

From what I've read about the new MP who's going to replace Starmer, he'll be even worse.

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2026 12:48 AM (RCjYY)

239 So I've just come in from sitting on the patio where i was smoking a cuban, and drink 16 year old scotch...

Posted by: Diogenes

What scotch?

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 22, 2026 12:49 AM (DZ9Lv)

240 Nytol

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2026 12:50 AM (RCjYY)

241 Fire insurance. Last week a grass fire roared through a giant auto salvage yard in Wendell, Idaho. 10,000 cars on the lot and they lost 9000 of them.

The office and workshop were insured, the inventory was not.

https://shorturl.at/757Qt

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2026 12:53 AM (bhZyo)

242 9/1/17 -
On Sept. 1, 1973, George Foreman knocked out José Roman in the first round, just two minutes into the match, to retain his claim as the heavyweight champion of the world.
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When he won the gold in Mexico City, did you see him walk around the ring carrying the American flag while other asshoes stood on the podium giving the black power salute?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:55 AM (iLKq8)

243 Lol Bers.

Mike Hammer that is a beautiful song.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 12:57 AM (0nHVk)

244 Just checking in.

We are safe after a night of tornadoes dropping everywhere around us. A small village about 9 miles north of us had two people killed in their mobile homes. Our own little city did have a tornado on the north side of town, but I haven't heard anything much about that one yet.

I hope everyone is ok as well, these storms are causing havoc as they move southeast.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 22, 2026 01:03 AM (2F0/Y)

245 When he won the gold in Mexico City, did you see him walk around the ring carrying the American flag
Posted by: Braenyard

www.youtube.com/shorts/ggluspG7xJU

This is cool:
www.youtube.com/shorts/Mj8FlYDHM-o

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 22, 2026 01:07 AM (DZ9Lv)

246 From what I've read about the new MP who's going to replace Starmer, he'll be even worse.
Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2026 12:48 AM (RCjYY)

He's going to work looking like Lawrence of Arabia in the desert, including the knife?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2026 01:09 AM (qx7Zg)

247 Joyenz, glad that you are safe for now, I will pray that you continue to be.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 01:11 AM (0nHVk)

248 229 lol
Just clicked over to Naked and Afraid. Thank goodness they blur out the nasty bits. They should rename that show Uggos on Parade. Bunch of dirty chuds running around with no underwear.
Posted by: Elvis Salvadoe at June 22, 2026 12:40 AM (oq9dX)

One of the last TV shows my father ever got into.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 01:13 AM (T6aVk)

249 Is there anything in the world of fashion Princess Catherine couldn’t pull off?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 01:14 AM (T6aVk)

250 206 raimondo has been huffing his own farts again...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:58 PM (1z8ji)

If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 01:16 AM (T6aVk)

251 Good evening. Thanks for the ONT Sisco & Piper.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2026 01:16 AM (gWiqo)

252
If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 01:16 AM (T6aVk)

That asshole has been swept away. Cow demons and snake spirits must be swept away. He is now on Xinjiang province fixing tractors on some shitty rations.

Properly attribute my genius next time.

Posted by: Mao at June 22, 2026 01:18 AM (T6aVk)

253 Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 01:11 AM (0nHVk)

Thank you, Debby. Time to finally get some sleep.

Night all!

Posted by: Joyenz at June 22, 2026 01:19 AM (2F0/Y)

254 I hope everyone is ok as well, these storms are causing havoc as they move southeast.

Posted by: Joyenz
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Glad you are OK.
Time to have that storm cellar dug?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:21 AM (iLKq8)

255 249 Is there anything in the world of fashion Princess Catherine couldn’t pull off?

Posted by: Cow Demon
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She pulled it off quiet nicely.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:22 AM (iLKq8)

256 well… so much for this weekend

unfortunate title

https://youtu.be/P63QerLsm9Q

g'nite, y'all 💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - unfortunately at June 22, 2026 01:22 AM (9bb3y)

257 Howdy, horde.

Hope everyone's Fathers Day was as good as possible!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:23 AM (rdVOm)

258 Hope everyone's Fathers Day was as good as possible!

Posted by: JQ
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Good to see you here. A night's not complete if you don't show up.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:25 AM (iLKq8)

259 I was really stoked for Naked and Afraid but disappointed to find out it is not about showering in prison.

Posted by: James Talarico at June 22, 2026 01:25 AM (r7ofC)

260 Aww... Thanks, Braenyard!

*blushes*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:27 AM (rdVOm)

261 and The Living Years ....

Posted by: Rex B at June 21, 2026 11:43 PM (rgnea)
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Saved me a post. Here's the link:

https://youtu.be/5hr64MxYpgk

No, the song has nothing to do with my own relationship with my father. On the contrary, I had wonderful parents who brought us up right. We were very fortunately blessed to have them both for so many years. I miss them every day.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:36 AM (3UbC6)

262 Hey JQ, I hope that your Hubby enjoyer his lobster tail, and Braenyard is right.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 01:38 AM (0nHVk)

263 I cooked a lobster tail for hubby's *treat* today:

Removed the shell, cut it up, cooked in butter over low heat just until opaque-- then submerged the pieces in melted, lightly seasoned butter & drove to the nursing home. He *loved* it!

And then poured the butter over his regular lunch! LOL. Chicken, taters & corn-- yeah, I'd do that too.

Stepson called while we were outside for hubby's cig time... great (almost 40!) kid... Just got a promotion to ass't supervisor at his job. Told him we're proud of him. Hubby was alert and lucid today, so that was awesome!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:38 AM (rdVOm)

264 Have to hook up my Sansui, can't get the volume or pitches out of my little computer set.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:39 AM (iLKq8)

265 Hi, Debby!

How goes the hell of fighting night-owlishness? LOL

I'm about to give up... some nights I can sleep (not many) and others, I can. *shrug*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:40 AM (rdVOm)

266 disappointed to find out it is not about showering in prison.

Posted by: James Talarico
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May you find out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:42 AM (iLKq8)

267 *sometimes CAN, sometimes CAN'T

ugh.......

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:44 AM (rdVOm)

268 It's been toasty here all week and 3 days since last lawn-watering, so I did that again today. After folding up that big tarp, of course.

Trimmed a couple of roses and pulled a few weeds, nothing strenuous of course, too hot for heavy work.

It's nice to just putter, without any time constraints!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:49 AM (rdVOm)

269 261 and The Living Years ....

Posted by: Rex B at June 21, 2026 11:43 PM (rgnea)
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Saved me a post. Here's the link:

https://youtu.be/5hr64MxYpgk

No, the song has nothing to do with my own relationship with my father. On the contrary, I had wonderful parents who brought us up right. We were very fortunately blessed to have them both for so many years. I miss them every day.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey


Sometimes a Great Song is just a Great Song. It, of course resonates with people in the situation that the song is about but it even resonates with those with great relationship with our parents. My parents are still on this side of eternity and I always cherish my moments with them. They stagger along, being in there 80s, but are doing ok otherwise. The song is beautiful.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 01:49 AM (sAmhv)

270 267 *sometimes CAN, sometimes CAN'T

ugh.......

Posted by: JQ
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I have discovered/decided not to be concerned. If it's not necessary to be on a timetable it doesn't matter. Sleep when it comes. Gerald Ford slept four hours a night and took naps in the mid day. If I have an appointment, what the heck, I get up and do it. I can sleep when I get home. It's a natural thing. Don't allow the constraints of regimented workforce influence your thinking.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:51 AM (iLKq8)

271 Don't allow the constraints of regimented workforce influence your thinking.
Posted by: Braenyard

Haha, I've always been annoyed by the concept of "early risers are superior to late risers"-- what a load of horse crap!-- but that's not my current issue...

It's so hot in the afternoon! I really ought to get my ass out of the rack early, so can get yard stuff done before lunch time. Any later in the day, and work becomes a miserable experience due to the heat.

But then again, I only have *myself* to please... heh.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:59 AM (rdVOm)

272 I actually have yawned a couple of times in the past few minutes, so I may drift off, I hope that it works better than last night. Sweet dreams Horde.

JQ, sounds like a really nice day.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 02:01 AM (0nHVk)

273 But then again, I only have *myself* to please... heh.

Posted by: JQ
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I've never understood those who jump out of bed ready to 'hit it'.
Oh, please be quiet and put on the coffee. Anyway ---
Turn the tables. Stay up a little longer and hit the yard work at sunrise. Finish up and go to bed while everyone else sweats outside..

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:06 AM (iLKq8)

274 Good night everyone. Hope you have a great week ahead.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 22, 2026 02:08 AM (CHHv1)

275 'Night, Debby! Good luck 'changing shifts'!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:12 AM (rdVOm)

276 'Night, BC! Sweet dreams to you & Robert the Cat (TM)

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:13 AM (rdVOm)

277 >>I've never understood those who jump out of bed ready to 'hit it'.

I have a whole family FULL of *that type*! Ugh. I once got the attempted guilt-trip from an uncle, because I slept late (never mind that my shift at that time was 5pm to 3am) and getting up by 11am required effort!)

>>Stay up a little longer and hit the yard work at sunrise. Finish up and go to bed while everyone else sweats outside..

That would F up lunches with hubby. Otherwise, I *would* do that! I just need to get up a little earlier, not a whole lot really, just a couple hours. You'd think it would be no big deal, but it IS for me.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:21 AM (rdVOm)

278 I think J.D. Vance has a quite good sense of humor. I laughed about hostile negotiations and "The View". I'll let others at another time critique his Iran negotiations. Since I am not in the inner -or even outer-Presidential circle - I have no comment to make about what he should or shouldn't have said to the Iranians.

Oh, yes, Princess Kate's dress is lovely.

I'm glad that you and hubby had a very nice Father's Day, JQ, and that he enjoyed his lobster tail.

Good night.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 02:21 AM (n3VHW)

279 Laughter erupts in the European Parliament after Macron’s MEP Fabienne Keller tries to get conservative MEPs punished for serious breeches of the rules

She says they met on the Parliament’s roof & “drank a lot, a lot” to celebrate passing new laws for deporting illegal migrant
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Full Screen:

https://tinyurl.com/tx8zvwys

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:23 AM (iLKq8)

280 I meant Princess Kate's yellow dress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 02:23 AM (n3VHW)

281 261 and The Living Years ....

Posted by: Rex B at June 21, 2026 11:43 PM (rgnea)

Woke me up for several weeks in eighth grade as they happened to be playing it on the radio.

The Living Years, by Mike Plus the Mechanics and featuring Paul Carrack on vocals, is on my lengthy list of “songs to play when self-eliminating”. Therefore especially hated.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 02:26 AM (T6aVk)

282 Laughter erupts in the European Parliament after Macron’s MEP Fabienne Keller tries to get conservative MEPs punished for serious breeches of the rules

She says they met on the Parliament’s roof & “drank a lot, a lot” to celebrate passing new laws for deporting illegal migrant
----

Full Screen:

https://tinyurl.com/tx8zvwys

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:23 AM (iLKq
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LOL!!!!!!!

So... Karenne?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:31 AM (3UbC6)

283 no big deal, but it IS for me.

Posted by: JQ
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It's a natural circadian rhythm. Some have one, some have the other. Many a year morning was 4:00 or 4:30 but that was responsibility. Without a forced timeline I'm an all-nighter by nature. Evening jobs were the best. Times past a friend and I would go out on the terrace, share a smoke and bid the morning sun.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:31 AM (iLKq8)

284 281 I meant Princess Kate's yellow dress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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It's obvious she's had a rough go but she wears that yellow dress well.
More power to her.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:34 AM (iLKq8)

285 It's a natural circadian rhythm. Some have one, some have the other. Many a year morning was 4:00 or 4:30 but that was responsibility. Without a forced timeline I'm an all-nighter by nature. Evening jobs were the best. Times past a friend and I would go out on the terrace, share a smoke and bid the morning sun.
Posted by: Braenyard

Absolutely! I am the same way.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:36 AM (rdVOm)

286 I don't see what cicadas and their rhythms have to do with sleeping. It's just scientifical.

Posted by: Neil de Grasse High Tyson Chicken at June 22, 2026 02:39 AM (KL9cQ)

287 self-eliminating

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 02:26 AM (T6aVk)
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I would have thought that's the equivalent of Daffy Duck's "I can only do it once" grand finale.

https://youtu.be/BRMrlFRRJgY

BTW, what Hollywood political correctness required WB to change the above original to this?

https://youtu.be/ZKpyrHiZgZA?t=68

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:40 AM (3UbC6)

288 In a joint statement at the end of the Lake Lucerne summit, the mediators - Qatar and Pakistan - said "encouraging progress has been made" during the 18 hours of negotiations.
👍👎The mediators said the U.S. and Iran agreed to establish a High Level Committee, which will provide political oversight to the negotiation in addition to working groups focused on nuclear, sanctions, and a monitoring and dispute resolution group.
---ya da, ya da, ya da.

Predicting it won't be long before IRGC takes out it's watch and pulls the trigger.....again. ----... they can't help themselves
a wild animal is easier to tame.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:43 AM (iLKq8)

289 I told Dad what snobby uncle said about my "sleeping in" and what I told him: that it's not what time you rise, but what you *do with the day* that counts. Plus, the fact that I DID NOT mention that at least I *have* a job while snobby uncle was unemployed, LOL.

Dad chuckled at the truth of it, and approved my restraint-- in the name of keeping the peace with his in-laws.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:46 AM (rdVOm)

290 Predicting it won't be long before IRGC takes out it's watch and pulls the trigger.....again. ----... they can't help themselves
a wild animal is easier to tame.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:43 AM (iLKq
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I'm guessing this is a 60-day hudnah during which Iran will drag their feet to comply with anything and prep themselves for their next stage of jihad. Maximum they will ask for an extension of the hudnah.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:48 AM (3UbC6)

291 It's obvious she's had a rough go but she wears that yellow dress well.
More power to her.

Posted by: Braenyard


More Backlight !!!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2026 02:56 AM (/lPRQ)

292 Does anybody have a spare cat I can borrow? I have a mouse. It's running around the place. I can see it. I got mouse traps all over but it's ignoring them. Maybe I can get a flamethrower but I live in a condo. Probably a bad idea. I hates mice!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 03:05 AM (sAmhv)

293 More Backlight !!!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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She knew what she was doing. Have no intuition but think it was a statement, I'm back, I'm whole and I ain't quitting. Make way for Her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales, Countess of Chester, Duchess of Cornwall and Duchess of Rothesay in Scotland.
She's had a rough go but she's as tough as she is pretty. Charles, beware the Princess and her husband Prince William, the Prince of Wales.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:07 AM (iLKq8)

294 Puddleglum, what are you using for bait?

I have found that small nuts or grain work well, without being messy. Highly recommend these traps, they are reusable and easy to bait & set:

https://tinyurl.com/58dr6r3f

I use raw, in-shell sunflower seed or pieces of cracked corn.

Best of luck!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:16 AM (rdVOm)

295 Search Assist
Donald Trump backed Abelardo de la Espriella for the presidency of Colombia, endorsing him as a strong leader against his opponent, progressive Iván Cepeda.
--
Colombian President-Elect @ABDELAESPRIELLA and his vice-president @jrestrp are out celebrating on the streets of Barranquilla tonight after winning.
--
Due to the assassination risk from communist terrorists, they can’t shake hands with supporters
--
Milei congratulates @ABDELAESPRIELLA on winning the Colombian presidential election:

“The lion and the tiger roar in Latin America!”
--
I think he's going to give Espriella a chainsaw.




Orlando Avedaño@OrlvndoA5 o'clock
Elon Musk also reacts to Abelardo de la Espriella's victory
Elon Musk@elonmusk8h
Replying to @visegrad24 @ABDELAESPRIELLA

Cool

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:20 AM (iLKq8)

296 Peanut butter

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:23 AM (iLKq8)

297 Spring traps have peanut butter on them. I have sticky traps scattered around too.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 03:28 AM (sAmhv)

298 Peanut butter or bacon are also good mouse baits. But-- they tend to attract ants. If ants are a problem, recommend 'dry' baits like grain/nuts. Ants tend to leave those alone.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:29 AM (rdVOm)

299 Puddleglum, if the mice are ignoring your bait, you need to try different bait. What are they getting into?

Mice eat almost anything, but... you could try pasta, or rice, or a rolled-up pinch of bread... just about anything, if you've noticed them eating it.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:34 AM (rdVOm)

300 Another thing, Puddleglum: placement.

Put traps along baseboards and under/behind furniture, back of cabinets. They like 'cover' and tend to stay away from open areas.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:38 AM (rdVOm)

301 Donald Trump backed Abelardo de la Espriella for the presidency of Colombia, endorsing him as a strong leader against his opponent, progressive Iván Cepeda.
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:20 AM (iLKq
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Handy koinkadinky chart:

https://tinyurl.com/2s3v242a

Off to exercise!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 03:44 AM (rmmrE)

302 Mice is monsters. When I bought the country place it was empty -
except for mice. Set out 15, really, Victor traps. All night long, snap, slap same thing next night. Did n't get rid of the little bastards till I bought Warfarin. The dogs didn't like it so no worries. Everywhere I put it. Eat it bitches.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:45 AM (iLKq8)

303 Been mostly awake since 2am

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 03:47 AM (Ia/+0)

304 303 Mice is monsters. When I bought the country place it was empty -
except for mice. Set out 15, really, Victor traps. All night long, snap, slap same thing next night. Did n't get rid of the little bastards till I bought Warfarin. The dogs didn't like it so no worries. Everywhere I put it. Eat it bitches.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:45 AM (iLKq

(takes notes)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 03:48 AM (T6aVk)

305 293 Does anybody have a spare cat I can borrow? I have a mouse. It's running around the place. I can see it. I got mouse traps all over but it's ignoring them. Maybe I can get a flamethrower but I live in a condo. Probably a bad idea. I hates mice!!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 03:05 AM (sAmhv)

Place them along the baseboards. Mice love to run against them.

As soon as I started doing that I started catching the fuckers left right and center.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 03:50 AM (T6aVk)

306 285 281 I meant Princess Kate's yellow dress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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It's obvious she's had a rough go but she wears that yellow dress well.
More power to her.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:34 AM (iLKq

May her next dress be blue.

Posted by: Depeche Mode at June 22, 2026 03:52 AM (T6aVk)

307 Warfarin... blood thinner. Granddad used to joke about taking his "daily rat poison". Thanks for the memory!

I don't use warfarin because of neighborhood cats (plus my own) -- I don't want to harm any pets!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:53 AM (rdVOm)

308 I'm sorry, but I have long crushed on Princess Catherine, and among the people who are not entirely blameless are people like the late, great OregonMuse who always featured her on the chess thread dress portion (along with that Asian chick who I did not get the obsession with - though Asian women do exactly zero for me).

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 03:55 AM (T6aVk)

309 Handy koinkadinky chart:
https://tinyurl.com/2s3v242a
Off to exercise!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
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Yes the southern hemisphere has been drifting away from socialist/communism to the conservative right. Lula bitch is holding on only because Brazil is so corrupt. It's truely a pincer movement generated by Trump, hemispherical independence. Milei is the strong man of the South and Trump of the North pushing out the communist mindset and the CCP.

With God's help the North and South will align in mutual alliance and trust strengthening our self reliance eliminating Any dependence on the old world. - not meaning that we won't do business, just meaning - we don't need them.

Praying that 'little satin' Israel and 'big satin' US are always aligned.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:59 AM (iLKq8)

310 Place them along the baseboards. Mice love to run against them.
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Behind the oven, around the ice box.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 04:03 AM (iLKq8)

311 Puddleglum, my link at 295 says traps are "disposable" LOL, right. I've reused those *dozens* of times! (Had a bad problem before Cat arrived)

I used them outdoors too-- 4 of them-- would empty and re-bait them in the morning before work. Then empty and re-bait them after work. And again empty and re-bait before going to bed. A dozen mice *each day* caught with raw, in-shell sunflower seeds. Those traps last a long time and don't need to be trashed after single use!

Traps were placed 2 under deck stairs, 1 in corner between outbuilding & retaining wall, and 1 next to house under shrubbery. Score, 3 times a day EACH, for couple of weeks. Probably could've caught more, but *catches* slowed afterward. Don't know if they got smart or eradicated for a while...

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 04:23 AM (rdVOm)

312 Put traps along baseboards and under/behind furniture, back of cabinets. They like 'cover' and tend to stay away from open areas.


That I've done. I do have sunflower seeds. I'll add them to the trap menu. I do have the baseboards covered but I'll check.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 04:29 AM (sAmhv)

313 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE)

314 Getting behind the oven is difficult, but I have traps all around it. The sticky kind. I'll remove some stuff under the dining room table. That's where I see the mice running around the most. I think they found an empty bag. I have several there.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 04:31 AM (sAmhv)

315 That I've done. I do have sunflower seeds. I'll add them to the trap menu. I do have the baseboards covered but I'll check.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 04:29 AM (sAmhv)

I have never left bait. I just left out the glue traps where I saw them running around. I set them out at sunset, and when getting ready for work the next morning...lo and behold, one or two of the little bastards are on the glue traps, struggling and shitting everywhere trying to get out. (I then put the trap in a plastic shopping bag and tie it up and throw it in the dumpster.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 04:33 AM (T6aVk)

316 Puddleglum-- buy a small bag of birdseed mix. Pick out large seeds/nuts for bait. Keep the bag in a mouse-proof container, LOL.

Good luck catching the lil bastards!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 04:37 AM (rdVOm)

317 When cat leaves a large rat carcass, I tie it up in a grocery bag & toss it:

If only a couple days before home trash pick-up-- in garbage can at home.

If hot weather and it'll be several days before home trash pick-up-- double bag and take it to gas station trash can.

Works for me, LOL.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 04:40 AM (rdVOm)

318 Sticky traps, along the baseboards.

But first, find out where they're getting in. I had cleaned out an infestation in the studio where I hadn't seen a mouse in 6 months and then, wham! I find a box of cereal in the pantry cabinet where there's a hole chewed into the back of the box. Input out the traps and caught three over the b next two weeks, but I still found those little mouse turds here and there. A week goes by with 4 traps set along the wall, under the sink, behind a set of shelves. Nothing. I finally set a sticky board along the wall near the door and tied it to the stove leg with a piece of wire. Got 'im!
I found that they had found their way up the outside wall - the little buggers can climb rough surfaces easily - into a small space under the eaves, through the attic, then down the space where the built in oven used to be. I stuffed that with rockwool insulation then blocked it off with a couple of pieces of plywood. I also plugged the space under the eaves with steel wool and a screen.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 22, 2026 04:48 AM (RW118)

319 PM Starmer is resigning.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 05:55 AM (T6aVk)

Gun Thread: Post NoVAMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Post NoVAMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition! I guess it's inevitable after a NoVAMoMe, but it still comes and goes so quickly. A bigly hearty thank you to all those who made the effort to come. If you attended this year's NoVAMoMe, or any MoMe for that matter, please speak up with your impressions in the comments below. Who knows, it might just be your words that inspires a scaredy-cat lurker to attend one!

Happy Father's Day to all you Dads out there!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

FUNdamentals of MoMe'n that is, with the operative word being FUN!

The social event of the season kicked off Friday afternoon with a small group and perfect weather, and by perfect I mean really actually perfect. The Pre-MoMe is a low key affair and among other things we mostly discussed the perfect weather, and enjoyed each other's company without being in full NoVAMoMe mode.

The following day was the main event, and to make up for the perfect weather the day before we had, you guessed it, more perfect weather. People arrived at the appointed time, and did the normal MoMe things, which is to say, enjoyed each other's company. We were fortunate to have attracted some new mostly-lurker types who, judging by the smiles, enjoyed themselves thoroughly. It's so nice to watch people meeting and re-acquainting with their online pals.

I say this a lot as you all know, but these get-togethers are pretty special, and you are only cheating yourself if you don't make the effort to get to one. I am aware that we have a fair amount of introverts among us, and imagine that's fairly common among online communities, but I cannot overemphasize the low-key nature of these gatherings. You owe it to yourself to give it a try at least once. You can absolutely be a total wallflower and hide and not talk to anyone, or be the life of the party, the choice is yours. There is absolutely zero pressure from anyone, and believe me when I say you will not be the biggest weirdo present.

If you missed the NoVAMoMe, fear not. The TXMoMe is right around the corner, October 16-17, in Corsicana, TX. Contact Ben Had for details. A link is always on the main page, left sidebar.

Finally, I want to thank my bestest blog buddy bluebell for her continued friendship over all these years. She makes being the nicest person in the world look easy.

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Model of 1917

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Wait a minute! Wait just a dang minute! I made a video at Weasel Acres on this very rifle!

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Grains?

What are those little numbers on the ammo box?

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Greatest .357 Magnum?

Our pal Hickok45 takes a look.

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Our Pal Leisure Time

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Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: Hostage Family Copter!

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The Astounding She-Monster!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Bang

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 07:00 PM (os4kt)

2 Hello all!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

3 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 07:01 PM (qEb4U)

4 I went to the NoVaMoMe in 2024. It was fantastic. And I'm a shut-in who is terrified of crowds.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2026 07:02 PM (CHHv1)

5 Good evening to all an I’m looking forward to reading about the MoMe.

Posted by: Coelacanth at June 21, 2026 07:03 PM (vt7xw)

6 bluebell and Weasel, thank you for once again hosting what was an amazing MoMe.

You are the best.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:04 PM (afJtY)

7 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 07:05 PM (zC76q)

8 Howdy!

Did some shootin' in the last couple of weeks. Went with a friend to his gun club in rural Western PA. It's right behind the middle of nowhere. Didn't get a chance to shoot my S&W FPC (.9mm) but did get extensive work with my .357 revolver. I did ok.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 21, 2026 07:07 PM (sAmhv)

9 Practice, practice, practice. And don't comment in all caps like that Obama idiot.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 07:08 PM (OB8ow)

10 You can absolutely be a total wallflower and hide and not talk to anyone

Though, you probably won't succeed at the 'not talking to anyone'. Other wallflowers will notice and you will soon be surrounded by them and having an absolute blast.

I'm sorry I had to miss it again this year. I will probably miss Texas, too. It's turning into a very rough year for me. But I can smile, sitting here, remembering all the other times and all the people I've met.

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2026 07:08 PM (kU0PQ)

11 This was my first MoMe. It was truly a thrill getting to meet my imaginary friends, put faces to names, and share stories. Bluebell and Weasel are gracious hosts, and made me feel welcome and that they were really glad I came. I regret only that I have missed so many meetups in the past. I hope not to miss any going forward. This is the best group I have been associated with.

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:08 PM (z6ONu)

12 And I would like to offer a laurel, and hearty handshake, to bluebell and Weasel for putting together yet another great NoVaMoMe.

And thanks to all of you who ventured out and made it the great social event that it is!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 07:08 PM (zC76q)

13 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 07:09 PM (BCwQW)

14 I went to the NoVaMoMe in 2024. It was fantastic. And I'm a shut-in who is terrified of crowds.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2026 07:02 PM (CHHv1)

And it was fantastic meeting you! I hope you can join more of the events.

Also, crowds isn't a thing with us. We're more of a horde.

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2026 07:10 PM (kU0PQ)

15 there's talk Richard "Lord British" Garriott is getting Ultima back.
Maybe he can backtrack and make Ultima 8-9 actually good.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 07:11 PM (gKWVE)

16 People arrived at the appointed time, and did the normal MoMe things

So, the introverts looked at their shoes, and the extroverts looked at your shoes?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:11 PM (0sNs1)

17 I’m envious of y’all who attended. I’m stuck on my little deserted island, pumping ethyl and selling over-priced groceries.
And my Gubs are way up yonder feeling lonely.
Thx, bluebell and Weasel, in any event. These MoMes keep us together.
And don’t require much bail money.

Posted by: RI Red at June 21, 2026 07:12 PM (SHg5Q)

18 And the 2026 NoVA MoMe is in the books, and it was a very good one. Let me add my thanks to Bluebell and Weasel for hosting this and being such gracious hosts. Weather was perfect for the Horde gathering. Loved meeting new attendees and reconnecting with those who have attended before. It is just such a low key picnic atmosphere, plus good company, food and drinks!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

19 and believe me when I say you will not be the biggest weirdo present.

Who is the biggest weirdo present?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:14 PM (0sNs1)

20 Probably me

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:16 PM (z6ONu)

21 Lest I forget :

A very Happy Father’s Day to all the fathers and grandfathers here

Toughest and most important job

Posted by: Coelacanth at June 21, 2026 07:18 PM (vt7xw)

22 Aw Weasel, you made me cry! We do make a good Moron team, don't we.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:18 PM (afFes)

23 Probably me
Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:16 PM

Even having only been to TxMoMes, I can guarantee that's not the case.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:18 PM (0sNs1)

24 Buck, I'm so glad you came. And I do hope you come back. Beckoning, I'm waiting and hoping you'll be back again. I'm hoping we didn't scare you away.

It's always nice to meet new friends and always wonderful to see our ol' faithfuls. You guys really are the best! Thank you for making it such a great day.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (afFes)

25 And for those interested, today we gathered at the range to practice, and also try new things. My goal was to practice trigger pull as taught in NH, and it was successful - but of course requires more work. I was generally grouping shots, perhaps not where I wanted to, but I was grouping them. I also shot my first .45 (thank you Scoob) and was pleasantly surprised by the experience. I imagined the gub to be heavy and recoil significant. I was wrong on both counts.
But today reminded me that I need to get back into the twice a week practice schedule.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

26 I believe that sewing machine shown in the leisure time video is a Singer #221, aka the Singer Lightweight. Well known to quilters and codependent enablers er, husbands of quilters everywhere. My wife owns as many 221s as I have M1s. That may or may not be a coincidence.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (vTZFs)

27 The weirdo is the guy with, you know, that thing.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (vFG9F)

28 Did bluebell do her usual self-defense/enforcing discipline-in-the-yard masterclass?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (0sNs1)

29 Featherweight, not Lightweight.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 07:21 PM (vTZFs)

30 And yes, happy Father's Day to all you wonderful dads and dad-figures! My kids send Father's Day greetings to our former neighbor who never had kids of his own but always treated my kids like his own. He and his wife are part of the family. They retired and moved away and we miss them.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:22 PM (afFes)

31 It's been a while since I attended a NoVaMoMee, although I was at the first 3 (or 4?). If you're lurking and you're concerned you're going to have to put your real name on a name tag, nope. There are a bunch of morons and 'ettes whose real names I still don't know, even though I've met them in person.

As for the meeting in person part, it's fun to put nics to faces, and if you're a regular reader you already have a bit of familiarity with a bunch of them. For some of them, you're like, yup, the persona online is exactly who they are in real life. For me, Berserker was like that (Mrs. Berserker is a great gal too). Hrothgar as well. And seeing AlextheChick get riled up was always fun.

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 07:22 PM (1ieqq)

32 Of note to those of you in Virginia: with 9 days to go until the evil new laws take effect, I was curious how it would be at the range. It was empty. Have no idea if that's because it was beautiful weather and Father's Day, but I'll have a better idea on Friday. On the wall of long guns, more than half had been removed. Same for the general supply walls. And it seemed to me that RSOs were far more on alert on the range than previous.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

33 28 Did bluebell do her usual self-defense/enforcing discipline-in-the-yard masterclass?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (0sNs1)
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I was too busy doing my usual nagging, making everybody put on a name tag.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:23 PM (afFes)

34 Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:18 PM (afFes)
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I think so by golly!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:24 PM (GNqmQ)

35 Vendette! Wish you could have been there. We miss you. Hope all is well up north.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:24 PM (afFes)

36 Of course range time today was followed with by food and beverage at our own MiniMoMe. You know, where 2 or more Morons are gathered, thus is a MoMe. And a great time was had by all.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

37 and believe me when I say you will not be the biggest weirdo present.
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The Horde is its own little Island of Misfit Toys. Everywhere else I'm an oddball, but the Horde feels like home.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM (lOlUK)

38 Glad everyone had a good time

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 07:29 PM (Ia/+0)

39 Everywhere else I'm an oddball
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM

Dunno. You seem pretty normal to me.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:30 PM (0sNs1)

40 Vendette! Wish you could have been there. We miss you. Hope all is well up north.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:24 PM (afFes)

*Waves*

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 07:31 PM (1ieqq)

41 Thanks for the Gub, Weasel. Glad to hear about another successful NoVAMoMe.

I've expressed my opinion on the best .357 Mag here before. Can't beat the S&W model 686. Mine has been one of the best purchases I have ever made. Love that gub.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 21, 2026 07:33 PM (ceJ0R)

42 Your first time to a MoMe is an experience. Your second MoMe is a family reunion.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:34 PM (afJtY)

43 Gotta get to the NoVa one of these years. I mean, it's a lot closer to me than TX, and I go there!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 07:34 PM (h7ZuX)

44 The Horde is its own little Island of Misfit Toys. Everywhere else I'm an oddball, but the Horde feels like home.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM
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How many problems are in your crawl space at the moment?

Posted by: TRex - subterranian dino at June 21, 2026 07:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

45 Yeah, Dash! Get yourself here next year! Collect screaming in digital along the way, assuming she gets her crawl space in order.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:36 PM (afFes)

46 It was good to see everyone again (if only briefly) yesterday and today. Hope to see you all in TX! Posting for me will be slow tonight because I'm putting stuff away that I brought to the range today.

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 07:38 PM (BCwQW)

47 Dunno. You seem pretty normal to me.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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You seem normal to me too!

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:38 PM (lOlUK)

48 Your first time to a MoMe is an experience. Your second MoMe is a family reunion.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:34 PM (afJtY)
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This needs to be written down somewhere!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:38 PM (GNqmQ)

49 Weasel, this came up sometime in the last two weeks, and I don't know if you'd seen this one. It's an electric automatic BB gun.

https://tinyurl.com/4dwu8nt9

I'm not sure how quiet it is, but it could be a pest control device where quiet is necessary.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (qx7Zg)

50 It was an absolutely perfect day. So many hugs and a surprise visit by Salty. Tired me out though so I ended up missing today's fun. When I took my BP this morning and it was 87/65, I thought maybe I shouldn't drive my car. I did manage to get it over 100 later so....
Weasel, you mentioned a kydex holster with a leather lining. What is the company?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (kJmSS)

51 Of course range time today was followed with by food and beverage at our own MiniMoMe. You know, where 2 or more Morons are gathered, thus is a MoMe. And a great time was had by all.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM

Yes...a great time was had!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (zC76q)

52 Your first time to a MoMe is an experience. Your second MoMe is a family reunion.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:34 PM (afJtY)
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This needs to be written down somewhere!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:38 PM

It was comment #42....what more do you people want?!

Posted by: Deep Thought at June 21, 2026 07:41 PM (zC76q)

53 Vedder Holsters is offering 20% off, ending tonight.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:41 PM (0sNs1)

54 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (qx7Zg)
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I did see that and bookmarked to go back and review later. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:41 PM (GNqmQ)

55 Hit this video on YouTube, and thought some people here would find it interesting.

How Clay Targets Are Made | How It’s Made
https://youtu.be/iamy_3IQ_ng

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 07:43 PM (qx7Zg)

56 Your first time to a MoMe is an experience. Your second MoMe is a family reunion.
Posted by: Ben Had
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So true!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 21, 2026 07:43 PM (ZHOnm)

57 Weasel, you mentioned a kydex holster with a leather lining. What is the company?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (kJmSS)
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Garrett Holsters. The model I like is the Silent Thunder.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:44 PM (GNqmQ)

58 SMH, you and ex ex have been my family for a long time now.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:44 PM (afJtY)

59 Ben Had,

And you, ours.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 21, 2026 07:45 PM (ZHOnm)

60

That Leisure Time video would have made a good short on the old MST3K.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 07:47 PM (Cqx++)

61 How many problems are in your crawl space at the moment?
Posted by: TRex
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I'm happy to report that as of Thursday I'm now the proud owner of shiny new snake-free ductwork. The crew accidentally disconnected the dehumidifier pump drain line on their way out, though. I discovered it shortly after they left and notified them. But I had to get under there and reconnect it myself because they weren't able to get back the same day and meanwhile, the pump was spraying water all over the crawl space. By some miracle, I did it right!

Not sure if the flooding problem is resolved. Next heavy or prolonged rain will be the test. I am hoping to spend less Leisure Time (to bring it on topic) with a shop vac in the crawl space.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (lOlUK)

62 Happy Father's Day to Big Mike and we hope Barry gives you the day off....

Posted by: Voices from the Far Side at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (X7dyz)

63 Wow, an appearance by SMH and Vendette, this is a gun thread for the books!

And it was a great event as usual, like visiting with the family you would like to have!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (hOUT3)

64 Wow, an appearance by SMH and Vendette, this is a gun thread for the books!

And it was a great event as usual, like visiting with the family you would like to have!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (hOUT3)

It isn't a NoVaMoMee without you there!

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 07:52 PM (1ieqq)

65 Sun still up and my bed time. At leart tomorrow daylight is like 10 seconds less.
Good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 07:52 PM (Ia/+0)

66 U.S. Model of 1917
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Hey! I have one of those. Have only fired it once and the empty brass got stuck. I have since had it cleaned by my local range guys but have not had a chance to try shooting it again.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:53 PM (lOlUK)

67 Greetings one and all. Hopefully I will attend a MoMe just to say "I was there."

Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2026 07:53 PM (/k3in)

68 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (hOUT3)

It isn't a NoVaMoMee without you there!
Posted by: Vendette
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Truth

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

69 Wife and I arrived at a TX MOME a few years ago. We wandered into the car port. in the back there was a lot of gunfire. One table was filled with booze. We added our bottle of Colorado whiskey, then kind of meandered a bit. First person we met:

Berserker.

Met Ben Had a little bit later.

Holy cow, that was an experience. Highly recommend.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, aka Agent Frank at June 21, 2026 07:56 PM (0aYVJ)

70 I'm waiting for the t-shirt: "I went to the 2026 NoVaMoMe and all I got was a roving parking lot dust tornado."

Posted by: TRex - merch dino at June 21, 2026 07:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

71 It isn't a NoVaMoMee without you there!
Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 07:52 PM (1ieqq)

So I can count of seeing you there next year, right!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:58 PM (hOUT3)

72 Thanks Weasel. Found it.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 07:59 PM (kJmSS)

73 Spawn of lin-duh was 7 years old at her first MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:59 PM (afJtY)

74 Posted by: TRex - merch dino at June 21, 2026 07:57 PM (IQ6Gq)
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That was crazy!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:01 PM (GNqmQ)

75 Congrats SiD. It always feels especially righteous when you manage to figure something out one your own.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 08:01 PM (kJmSS)

76 There was some talk a month or so ago about building a deLisle carbine - the silenced .45 ACP carbine built on an SMLE No. 1 action.

They are making them new now, and they are selling the barrel and magazine kits.

The down side is that the silenced carbine is about $6,000, though the barrel kit is much cheaper

New DeLisle Carbines Coming From US Armament Manufacturing
https://tinyurl.com/4nphwen5


Centerfire Systems - Enfield 45ACP Conversion Kit w/ Bull Barrel
https://tinyurl.com/y5zmx6ds

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 08:03 PM (rbvCR)

77 So I can count of seeing you there next year, right!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:58 PM (hOUT3)

Get me through to next year first!

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 08:03 PM (1ieqq)

78 67 Greetings one and all. Hopefully I will attend a MoMe just to say "I was there."
Posted by: NR Pax

There are several regional MoMe that spring up and info is usually posted on the blog, or word of mouth! Keep you eyes open on the blog; you will never regret attending a MoMe!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:04 PM (hOUT3)

79 61 I'm happy to report that as of Thursday I'm now the proud owner of shiny new snake-free ductwork.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM
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What caliber do you recommend for snakes?

Posted by: TRex - just checking... dino at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

80 Get me through to next year first!
Posted by: Vendette

I propose a team effort!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

81 TRex, shot the last one with the .410

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 08:06 PM (afJtY)

82 What caliber do you recommend for snakes?
Posted by: TRex - just checking... dino at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

.... I didn't know they used the "caliber" system to measure cruise missiles.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 21, 2026 08:06 PM (Ot/FD)

83 Loved how someone slapped a name sticker with "FED"
on it on CBD's back (see last night's ONT).
And when I pointed out that in fairness, between his khakis , polo short & wraparound shades he looked like a Fed, he responded as only a Jersey Moron can:
"Aw, FUCK you all!!!"
Yeah, if you missed it come on out next year!

Posted by: Brother Bob at June 21, 2026 08:09 PM (tBfGm)

84 The Gun Thread has taught me a valuable lesson.

Not all cheesy old SF movies are created equal.

That Spider movie last week was… enjoyable to see the old vehicles.

Posted by: mindful webworker - spiders, man at June 21, 2026 08:14 PM (9bb3y)

85 New DeLisle Carbines Coming From US Armament Manufacturing
https://tinyurl.com/4nphwen5

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 08:03 PM (rbvCR)

I have one of the US Armament Manufacturing examples. The workmanship on the rifle is quite good. The wood is finished well (relative to WWII standards) and the butt plate is brass. The sights are adjustable out to 200 yards. The suppressor is quite effective. It really cuts down the noise, even in an indoor setting. After about 75 rounds, the sights look like they're dead on at about 25 yards. My one complaint (beyond the price) is that 1911 magazines modified to accommodate the De Lisle's unique magazine catch are cheap generic 1911 magazines. I would have preferred to start with a higher end magazine manufacturer like Wilson Combat or Chip McCormick.

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:15 PM (BCwQW)

86 How to make an AK-47 magazine.

youtu.be/0xuORoCKJZE

22 minutes of Third World industrial might.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2026 08:16 PM (GjEvj)

87 Congrats SiD. It always feels especially righteous when you manage to figure something out one your own.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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It's a small win, but the way things have been going with the house/yard, I'll take it.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:16 PM (lOlUK)

88 Did I stink up the place in Corsicana last year?
It was my first one, the Momentous 10th.
Just want to know if I have been barred…
I’d like to try it again, if I haven’t been spurned…
Ben Had was the warmest one of all. Probably because she never stops. But I meant temperament-wise…
And the Grand Ambassador Weasel, was the best, most accepting for Newbs.
Did I mind my manners enough to be able to come back?

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:23 PM (3hOgI)

89 Did I mind my manners enough to be able to come back?
Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:23 PM (3hOgI)
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Ben Had always has the final say, but you have my hearty endorsement!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (ei1sX)

90 What caliber do you recommend for snakes?
Posted by: TRex
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I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)

91 No groveling.

Posted by: Zod at June 21, 2026 08:26 PM (vneJl)

92 Anyone who enjoys this blog should consider the trip to Corsicana a pilgrimage!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:28 PM (ei1sX)

93 Gunslinger, look forward to having you join us again.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 08:28 PM (afJtY)

94 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)
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So, flamethrower?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 08:30 PM (kpS4V)

95 Zod…
“No groveling.”

Isn’t that “kneel before” schtick really what it’s about?

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:30 PM (3hOgI)

96 Gunslinger, look forward to having you join us again.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 08:28 PM (afJtY)
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Gunslinger - this is a good sign.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:31 PM (ei1sX)

97 I’m taking it the same way!
Thanks Ben, and you to Weasel.

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:31 PM (3hOgI)

98 I was trying to remember who made the NoVa MoMe name tags. I got mine in 2020 and I think that was the last year.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 08:32 PM (kJmSS)

99 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)
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So, flamethrower?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
***************
Perfect response!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

100 Weasel,
So glad the MoMe went well but not surprised. Every gathering of Horde members is always a pleasure.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (yTvNw)

101 Get me through to next year first!
Posted by: Vendette

I propose a team effort!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

Mutual accountability FTW!

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (1ieqq)

102 Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:31 PM (3hOgI)
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By the way, I'm enjoying the last third of a giant 6x60 Brick House Maduro Mighty Mighty!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (ei1sX)

103 Here's a thought for FSJ, Gertie, Saijo, and the other dogs (and some of the cats) of the Horde:

Squirrels are just tennis balls thrown by God.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (qx7Zg)

104 83 Loved how someone slapped a name sticker with "FED"
on it on CBD's back (see last night's ONT).
And when I pointed out that in fairness, between his khakis , polo short & wraparound shades he looked like a Fed, he responded as only a Jersey Moron can:
"Aw, FUCK you all!!!"
Yeah, if you missed it come on out next year!
Posted by: Brother Bob at June 21, 2026 08:09 PM (tBfGm)

I can't believe someone would do that!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (NlEaG)

105 Like the revised nic Hrothgar!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (IQ6Gq)

106 the butt plate is brass. The sights are adjustable out to 200 yards. The suppressor is quite effective. It really cuts down the noise, even in an indoor setting. After about 75 rounds, the sights look like they're dead on at about 25 yards. My one complaint (beyond the price) is that 1911 magazines modified to accommodate the De Lisle's unique magazine catch are cheap generic 1911 magazines. I would have preferred to start with a higher end magazine manufacturer like Wilson Combat or Chip McCormick.
Posted by: Ed L a
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By WWII, brass was in scarce supply so buttplates on Lee Enfield WWII types were zamac or blackened steel. You won't see either of those on pre WWII rifles unless retrofitted.

Like the 1903a3, a lot of shortcuts were made during WWII for the sole remaining English firm BSA Shirley made No. 1, Mk 3's and later transitioned to No. 4 rifles. They used the dispersal scheme so a number of different subcontractors made the parts.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:35 PM (E4rtv)

107 Lunchtime doubly so.

Posted by: Just the punchline at June 21, 2026 08:35 PM (NOXbI)

108 Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (yTvNw)
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Thanks JTB. You and Mrs. JTB were missed!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:36 PM (ei1sX)

109 90 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM
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Without proper fundamentals, obviously. Can you practice ductwork snake hunting with dry fire?

Posted by: TRex - wind caller dino at June 21, 2026 08:36 PM (IQ6Gq)

110 61 I'm happy to report that as of Thursday I'm now the proud owner of shiny new snake-free ductwork.

Posted by: screaming in digital
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Snakes in the AC would not be a horror movie I would watch.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:36 PM (E4rtv)

111 No groveling.
Posted by: Zod at June 21, 2026 08:26 PM

Yo, Zod! S'up? You were missed at the MoMe.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (zC76q)

112 Ooh, nice.
CAO Brazilia for me. Perfect for the last stogie for a Sunday night.
Early bed for the following, always oppressive Monday back at work…

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (3hOgI)

113 90 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.

Posted by: screaming in digital
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Yep, but it is the thoughtful suggestion that counts I guess.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (E4rtv)

114 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)
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So, flamethrower?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
***************
Perfect response!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

Why not the Carl Spackler approach, from Caddyshack - C4 made up like snakes prey?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 08:38 PM (qx7Zg)

115 Squirrels are just tennis balls thrown by God.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (qx7Zg)
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Someday remind me to tell the story of the squirrel that fell out of a tree in the backyard and landed on top of FSJ. Hilarity ensued!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:38 PM (ei1sX)

116 Like the 1903a3, a lot of shortcuts were made during WWII for the sole remaining English firm BSA Shirley made No. 1, Mk 3's and later transitioned to No. 4 rifles. They used the dispersal scheme so a number of different subcontractors made the parts.
Posted by: whig
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And to add to that, for No. 1. Mk 3, I suspect Australian used steel, dunno about Ishapore as India had a pretty active brass industry. I have an Aussie Lithgow downstairs but it is hardly original.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:39 PM (E4rtv)

117 There is a thing called snakeshot you know.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 21, 2026 08:39 PM (NlEaG)

118 Thanks to bluebell and Weasel for organizing the MoMeet. All the attendees made it special. I enjoyed hearig the tales. One attendee and I were north of Libya at the same time in 1986. I was part of the USS America battlegroup, and he was in the USS Coral Sea battlegroup. Small world.

I plan to tell my friends back home that I got to talk with Bunny.
It was good to see familiar faces like Hrothgar, Sharon (willow's apprentice), Bulg and new ones such as Buck, who had some great stories. I could list everyone, but only Google and bluebell have the complete list.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 08:40 PM (whRlH)

119 Oh and hello gubthreaders and all the ships at sea.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 21, 2026 08:40 PM (NlEaG)

120 Ya gotta be careful in that ductwork, pal.

Posted by: John McClane at June 21, 2026 08:41 PM (NOXbI)

121 I've got one of those CO2 powered bb machine guns. You could shoot that in your ducts and it would make a heck of a noise and probably no holes.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2026 08:42 PM (vFG9F)

122 Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (3hOgI)
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Unfortunately it's now at the sad point of letting it die or trying to get one or two more puffs.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:43 PM (ei1sX)

123 Thanks for including the videos on the model 1917. Those old bolt action 30-06 battle rifles are wonderfully versatile. Unless the barrel is shot out they are good enough for casual target shooting and most hunting. With cast bullet hand loads they can serve as a squirrel rifle or a gallery gun. And those rear sights are plenty accurate once dialed in for the specific load.

The demonstration on greasing the bolt was helpful and applies to any of the bolt action battle rifles.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 08:44 PM (yTvNw)

124 Headed to Florida end of this week.

On board the vehicle will be some things that will no longer be legal in VA when I come back.

VCI bags came in from Amazon today.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 21, 2026 08:45 PM (NlEaG)

125 Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 08:44 PM (yTvNw)
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The CMP did an outstanding job of rebarreling the one in the video.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:45 PM (ei1sX)

126 Unfortunately it's now at the sad point of letting it die or trying to get one or two more puffs.
Posted by: Weasel

Oh, that is sad. About as sad as being reduced to a little cigarillo because it's too hot to be out longer than that.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 08:46 PM (ftFVW)

127 She Hobbit, wish BruceWayne Happy Birthday from me and a hug to you.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 08:48 PM (afJtY)

128 Hey! I have one of those. Have only fired it once and the empty brass got stuck. I have since had it cleaned by my local range guys but have not had a chance to try shooting it again.
Posted by: screaming in digital
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Some of those old WWI chambers can be generous and the US Army did not store 1917 rifles in the best of ways so they had some issues reissuing them in WWII to the extent that they put in a order for new barrels as barrels and chambers on some rifles corroded in storage between the wars. WWII barrels were made by Johnson Automatics and by High Standard--the greenish gray parkerizing is also in use. The original parkerizing in WWI used a bit different ingredients so you got a blackish parkerizing. IRRC, manganese (dark gray to blackish) in WWI, and zinc (light gray to grayish green) in WWII, probably because manganese was better employed in alloy steels rather than outsides of rifles.

And some are just dirty.



Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (E4rtv)

129 And to add to that, for No. 1. Mk 3, I suspect Australian used steel, dunno about Ishapore as India had a pretty active brass industry. I have an Aussie Lithgow downstairs but it is hardly original.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:39 PM (E4rtv)

Perhaps my DeLisle reproduction started out as an Ishapore product?

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (BCwQW)

130 Without proper fundamentals, obviously. Can you practice ductwork snake hunting with dry fire?
Posted by: TRex
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Hm. I had lost my motivation to shoot but a snake target might get me back to the range.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (lOlUK)

131 And big hugs to you, Ben Had! I'll pass the word along.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (ftFVW)

132 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 08:50 PM (2YhKe)

133 MoMes are the shizznit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 08:51 PM (2YhKe)

134 MoMes are the shizznit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Word.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 08:52 PM (ftFVW)

135 123 Thanks for including the videos on the model 1917. Those old bolt action 30-06 battle rifles are wonderfully versatile. Unless the barrel is shot out they are good enough for casual target shooting and most hunting. With cast bullet hand loads they can serve as a squirrel rifle or a gallery gun. And those rear sights are plenty accurate once dialed in for the specific load.
Posted by: JTB
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The heaviness of the rifle offsets the recoil--in full battle rattle, they weigh heavier than springfield 1903s.

The 1917 action and their P14 predecessors were altered post war into magnums by several custom gunshops because of strength. Not really true for the WWI era 1903's. The 1903a3s were built of modern steel but conversions were relatively scarce for those.

The P14 better fits the 300 Win Mag due to the differences in magazine length (shorter for the P14). The 1917 often was converted into a 300 Norma Magnum. Good round that never really caught on.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv)

136 Just got home from the MoMe. Had a great time.

Thank you Grateful and T-rex for everything.

Had a great time shooting some of Ed L's toys.

Thank you Ed!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 21, 2026 08:54 PM (OF02a)

137 IIRC, the 1917 "Enfield" introduced the rear peep sight and front post sight (with protective "barleycorn ear" protectors on each side. This type of sight would remain in use on successive US service rifles (M1, M1 Carbine, M14, M16, M4) well into the 21st century. Even the modern M4A1/M16A4 "flat top" rifles with optics still used backup irons with the same type of sights well into the 2010s during Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:54 PM (BCwQW)

138 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 08:55 PM (zC76q)

139 I was trying to remember who made the NoVa MoMe name tags. I got mine in 2020 and I think that was the last year.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 08:32 PM (kJmSS)
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Muad'dib. He was so generous to do all that for us, and more. Great guy.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 08:55 PM (afFes)

140 You're very welcome, Scuba Dude!

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:55 PM (BCwQW)

141 101 Get me through to next year first!
Posted by: Vendette

I propose a team effort!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

Mutual accountability FTW!
Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (1ieqq)

Let's not get carried away here!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:57 PM (hOUT3)

142 Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:43 PM (ei1sX)

“Unfortunately it's now at the sad point of letting it die or trying to get one or two more puffs.”

Torch lighter!
But if the wrapper is starting to unravel, time to tap out.

I have waayyy too many shirts, with micro-holes in the front. Best to call it done. And have your shirt live another presentable-in-public day.

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:57 PM (3hOgI)

143 Perhaps my DeLisle reproduction started out as an Ishapore product?
Posted by: Ed L

I'll bet they put a brass one on because it is prettier. The steel ones look pretty much WWII minimum specs of ugly but enough to get through the war quality. Post war, it simply was often whatever the armorer had in stock when one was refitted. FTR'ed in their lingo.

Brits saved the quality for where it counted in rifles but not the finish on rifle furniture on WWII products or later WWI ones for that matter. The No. 1 Mk 3* came about in 1916 after the Battle of the Somme created an enormous demand for rifles.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:57 PM (E4rtv)

144 Glad you came and are now home safe Scoob....I would have said "safe and sound" but I know that would only prompt a response from RMBS....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

145 And some are just dirty.

Posted by: whig
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Jesse had copious notes on this rifle. On the back of one of the pages, he wrote about shooting 50 rounds on some date in 2020. I think that note goes with this rifle, but I'm not sure. I don't recall him telling me about shooting this rifle, but he had many rifles. I still don't know some of what I have without checking his notes. I do remember that this particular rifle had changed hands between him and one of his buddies a couple different times. His buddy offered to buy it from me shortly after J died. At the time I would have agreed, but have since changed my mind about selling. And I haven't heard from this guy in ages so maybe he forgot!

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:59 PM (lOlUK)

146 Oh, that is sad. About as sad as being reduced to a little cigarillo because it's too hot to be out longer than that.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 08:46 PM (ftFVW)
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Looking forward to October and chatting over a cigar with you!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:00 PM (ei1sX)

147 137 IIRC, the 1917 "Enfield" introduced the rear peep sight and front post sight (with protective "barleycorn ear" protectors on each side. This type of sight would remain in use on successive US service rifles (M1, M1 Carbine, M14, M16, M4) well into the 21st century. Even the modern M4A1/M16A4 "flat top" rifles with optics still used backup irons with the same type of sights well into the 2010s during Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by: Ed L

Occasionally you will see a parts rifle with the proper sights switched as you can put a P14 sight and front sight blades on a 1917 but not vice versa because the P14 sight bed is not long enough as the receivers had to be lengthened for the 30-06 cartridge. Front sight blades, it doesn't matter much as the P14/1917 will even take some Lee Enfield front sight blades with some effort.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:00 PM (E4rtv)

148 Thank you to all of you that come to the TXMOME and made it so special. You have given me such wonderful memories .

As with Sponge, I remember your firsts.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 09:00 PM (afJtY)

149 SPONGE!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 08:55 PM (zC76q)

≈=========


*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 09:01 PM (2YhKe)

150 Good evening. Range was visited, twice. Once to confirm ammunition batch and once to shoot a 1,000 yard match. The 135 grain A tip bullets proved to be loaded to acceptable standards the day before the match.

I'm pretty sure my fundamentals were good.

So, my plan was, going into the match, take two rifles. One optimized for 6.5 mm 135 grain A tip bullets and the other optimized for 6.5 mm 153 grain A tips.

My thinking was, due to the way the wind kicks up around here, I would move to the heavier bullets with the better bc if we saw significant wind. The fly in the ointment: The 153 grain loads might be a little sketchy from a consistency standpoint.

Day of the match I got caught right in the middle: Breezy enough to question using the lighter bullet but not so breezy I wanted to risk using loads I wasn't all that confident in.

In the end, I went with the lighter bullets traveling a little faster and decided to trust my wind reading skills. I ended up in a 3 way tie for second place with a 96 but ultimately 4th as I only had two in the X ring. But, I did catch the wind shift and increase and beat several of our more experienced shoots.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:02 PM (UJMvS)

151 As with Sponge, I remember your firsts.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 09:00

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To be fair, you made me do it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 09:02 PM (2YhKe)

152 Hm. I had lost my motivation to shoot but a snake target might get me back to the range.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (lOlUK)
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Hey!

Posted by: Snake Plisskin at June 21, 2026 09:03 PM (UJMvS)

153 Looking forward to October and chatting over a cigar with you!
Posted by: Weasel

Yay, me too! Probably should start the planning now that the big family summer trip is behind me.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 09:03 PM (ftFVW)

154 Perhaps my DeLisle reproduction started out as an Ishapore product?
Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (BCwQW)

You can check the cartouche on the right side, unless that was ground off.

The MOD were not using No 4 SMLE actions, they were using No.1 actions, often ones with shot out barrels so they had a use for good actions that needed new barrels.
I expect there is some notes somewhere that details whether or not the brass SMLE No.1 butt plates were to be removed or not. The buttstock was basically standard. Probably Forgotten Weapons.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 09:04 PM (rbvCR)

155 Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:02 PM (UJMvS)
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Keep up the good work!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:04 PM (ei1sX)

156 Glad you came and are now home safe Scoob....I would have said "safe and sound" but I know that would only prompt a response from RMBS....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:58 PM

*looks around innocently*

*says nothing*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:06 PM (zC76q)

157 So, my plan was, going into the match, take two rifles. One optimized for 6.5 mm 135 grain A tip bullets and the other optimized for 6.5 mm 153 grain A tips.
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I understand that bullet weight can make a difference but what settings do you optimize on a rifle for different bullet weights? Just MOA because of the difference in trajectory?

BTW, thanks Weasel for the video in the content on grains.

Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

158 Jesse had copious notes on this rifle.
Posted by: screaming in digital

The value on those keeps escalating. They really are a magnificent rifle with one fault, the mag ejection spring is prone to breaking. And btw, when it does, the rifle's bolt will not extract brass from the chamber sometime or eject it depending on how broken it is.

Which now that I think about it, you might want to check that spring.
You don't have to take the rifle apart, just remove the bolt, look on the left side inside the back of the receiver for the rifle, and you should see the tip of the ejector spring. It is held in place by a small screw going from the top to the bottom and the spring pivots on that screw to eject spent shells.

https://tinyurl.com/Blog-with-pictures-of-spring

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (E4rtv)

159 Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Change the bullet weight and everything about the load changes, particularly velocity and bullet jump.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:08 PM (ei1sX)

160 Here, Ed L

The British ARES write up on the deLisle, with the video by Forgotten Arms

https://tinyurl.com/mrywdh7z

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 09:08 PM (rbvCR)

161 Probably Forgotten Weapons.
Posted by: Kindltot
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It is in Skelton's book on the Lee Enfield as are a lot of details about it.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (E4rtv)

162 You can check the cartouche on the right side, unless that was ground off.

The MOD were not using No 4 SMLE actions, they were using No.1 actions, often ones with shot out barrels so they had a use for good actions that needed new barrels.
I expect there is some notes somewhere that details whether or not the brass SMLE No.1 butt plates were to be removed or not. The buttstock was basically standard. Probably Forgotten Weapons.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 09:04 PM (rbvCR)

US Armament Manufacturing put on all new wood stocks, so no original markings on the wood remain.

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (BCwQW)

163 Signing off to get some sleep before the drive home tomorrow.

Thanks again for a great NoVaMoMe and a great Gun Thread!

Looking forward to seeing all of you amazing people in Corsicana!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (zC76q)

164 Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Elevation adjustment will change as will the ability of the projectile to resist wind offset.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (ei1sX)

165 Stopping by the gun thread just to mention that - for the first time in about a year and a half, I got some trigger time at the club.

Put about 90 rounds through my P320C and only about 60 rounds through the MCX Rattler.

Groupings were poor to start out with on the pistol but quickly improved as I reacquainted myself with my firearm that I hadn't shot in months.

Started out low and to the left like all right handed shooters naturally do I think.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2026 09:10 PM (CNp5O)

166 I understand that bullet weight can make a difference but what settings do you optimize on a rifle for different bullet weights? Just MOA because of the difference in trajectory?

BTW, thanks Weasel for the video in the content on grains.
Posted by: TRex

Makes a difference in the arc of the bullet trajectory and sometimes wind can be a factor at longer range. So you zero your scope differently for each. If you have to use the same rifle for both, most people mark their scope rather than rezeroing each time. Fine enough for hunters but if you are in a shooting competition, zero the rifle each time you switch ammo in the location you are shooting--altitude, humidity, and a bunch of other factors come into play at long range shooting comps. Weasel is your guy for that.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:11 PM (E4rtv)

167 Night RMBS....I'm signing off too as tomorrow is a work day....'til Corsicana!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

168 I understand that bullet weight can make a difference but what settings do you optimize on a rifle for different bullet weights? Just MOA because of the difference in trajectory?

BTW, thanks Weasel for the video in the content on grains.
Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I shoot a 6.5-06. The barrel on one of my rifles is a 28" Heavy Palma contour. The distance to the lands is short so I use a smaller bullet, the 135 gain A tip.

My other 6.5-06 has a 26" Heavy Varmint profile barrel on it, with more freebore, which allows me to seat the bullet further out without the bullet jamming into the rifling lands.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM (UJMvS)

169 Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2026 09:10 PM (CNp5O)
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Low/left from a right hand shooter typically results from anticipating recoil. Don't do that!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM (ei1sX)

170 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread folks!

Any advice on getting a Browning Auto-5 12 ga. unjammed? a 1949 model made by FN. I was able to partly field-strip it, and got a spent shell ejected from the chamber when I removed the barrel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM (1z8ji)

171 164 Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Elevation adjustment will change as will the ability of the projectile to resist wind offset.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM
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So you might optimize things on a rifle like barrel twist?

You might have two rifles and zero each one separately rather than taking one rifle and trying to make changes at the range?

Posted by: TRex - twisted dino at June 21, 2026 09:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

172 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (zC76q)
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Safe trip home, amigo. Always a pleasure to see you and mom!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:14 PM (ei1sX)

173 Low/left from a right hand shooter typically results from anticipating recoil. Don't do that!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM

*makes note not to do that*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:14 PM (zC76q)

174 Safe trip home, amigo. Always a pleasure to see you and mom!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:14 PM

Likewise, Weasel. See y'all in TX!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM (zC76q)

175 Weasel, I'm going to sign off because I'm a bit tired from this weekend's activities and I have an early wake up tomorrow morning. Thanks for hosting!

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM (BCwQW)

176 I realize I may not have answered your question, TRex. Rule of thumb is, the neck/should junction of the case should line up with the shoulder on a boat tail bullet. Seating beyond that point can adversely affect accuracy.

The freebore difference between the two rifles dictates seating depth.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM (UJMvS)

177 OK, 9:16 thank you time.

Thank you!

Sure do appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday. A special thanks to everyone who joined us on Saturday!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:16 PM (ei1sX)

178 Took my son shooting Saturday in the Coastal Range west of Portland. We had a great time.

Just curious, has there ever been a Pacific Northwest MoMe?

Posted by: frammish at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (rcENI)

179 Any advice on getting a Browning Auto-5 12 ga. unjammed? a 1949 model made by FN. I was able to partly field-strip it, and got a spent shell ejected from the chamber when I removed the barrel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Those are Swiss watch precision fitting on the A5. Check Numrich for a schematic but sometimes the problem is someone did not adjust the friction rings when shooting a different shotgun load and that affects the extraction. Most people casually shooting pop or grandpop's Auto 5 never read the manual and assume that it will handle all different shotgun loads without adjustment. It won't function sometimes if changing from light to heavy or heavy to light.

Apart from oiling it, I will use a dummy round and check for firing and extraction.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (E4rtv)

180 Have a good one, Weasel! By the way, finding those extra 4 points to shoot a 100 is going to be tough!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (UJMvS)

181 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)
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So, flamethrower?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
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Perfect response!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

Since she's left, TRex, is this a sign of what you're getting for Christmas?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (qx7Zg)

182 Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM (BCwQW)
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Thanks again Ed L, and THANK YOU for the wonderful gift. I will feature it in an upcoming Gun Thread, soon!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (ei1sX)

183 guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (xcxpd)

184 Take Auto 5's apart as a last resort and if you are in there, replace all the springs and worn parts. I have a pre War with a suicide safety (trigger guard) and it is a beast, but you have to set the friction rings right.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv)

185 175 Weasel, I'm going to sign off because I'm a bit tired from this weekend's activities and I have an early wake up tomorrow morning. Thanks for hosting!
Posted by: Ed L
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Ed L, you are a top notch and knowledgeable collector of exquisite firearms and hope to meet you someday if I ever get to travel much to a MoMeet.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:19 PM (E4rtv)

186 Did get to the range yesterday, just normal proficiency drills: Dot Torture with Bubba Fly my G17 and some one handed drills with my G44.

Holes made in paper, a good day was had.

In other news, I'm continuing to inch closer to getting rid of the vast majority of my firearms. With a few sentimental exceptions, I'm probably going to get rid of all my .45's, .44's, 38's and every other caliber that isn't 9mm, .22lr or 5.56. And maybe 12 gauge.
That's a lot of tools. Just need to figure out how best to get $ for it without me listing stuff on Gunbroker because...being serious, I'm not doing that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:20 PM (xcxpd)

187 Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (UJMvS)
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I have the utmost confidence in you.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:20 PM (ei1sX)

188 Just curious, has there ever been a Pacific Northwest MoMe?
Posted by: frammish at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM


Ask MAE. I have heard rumors.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 09:20 PM (2YhKe)

189 183 guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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How's your Glock shooting going.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:21 PM (E4rtv)

190 178 Took my son shooting Saturday in the Coastal Range west of Portland. We had a great time.

Just curious, has there ever been a Pacific Northwest MoMe?
Posted by: frammish at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (rcENI)

jah, most years. This year I was on vacation and nobody else felt like organizing it. Typically happens in May.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:22 PM (xcxpd)

191 Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM
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Thanks Blake. Need to apply my small brain and digest further, but your explanation is helpful.

Posted by: TRex - partially seated dino at June 21, 2026 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)

192 189 183 guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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How's your Glock shooting going.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:21 PM (E4rtv)

honestly, really solid. I had a few low-right strings on dot torture yesterday but I'm happy with what's happening. I have other guns I love but I shoot Glocks well and I have hi-cap mags for them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:23 PM (xcxpd)

193 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:19 PM (E4rtv)
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I hope it works out someday. It would be a pleasure to meet you!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:24 PM (ei1sX)

194 Thanks Blake. Need to apply my small brain and digest further, but your explanation is helpful.
Posted by: TRex - partially seated dino at June 21, 2026 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Well, a wise Weasel once warned madness lay along the road to shooting long range matches. Did I listen? Nooooo....

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:25 PM (UJMvS)

195 You might have two rifles and zero each one separately rather than taking one rifle and trying to make changes at the range?
Posted by: TRex
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Easier if competing with it. Not really needed for minute of elk etc. The long range competition shooters are just getting warmed up by the time it is well past what most hunters would consider a humane kill range.

I never shot much long range even when I did shoot back a ways. Most of my rifles are battered old shooter grade military bolt actions and you get minute of man accuracy unless you tune them specifically for competition (which in turn negatively affects their collector's value and some alterations like glass bedding, etc. are not allowed anyway). So 3-5 MOA is usual with open sights and range ammo fodder and a bit less with peep sights on a good day at 100-200 yards==maybe 2.5-4 on something like an Lee Enfield No. 4 with Singer peep iron sights.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:25 PM (E4rtv)

196 Tardy Sunday evening greetings, gub 'ettes and 'rons. Sounds like NoVAMoMe was a fine time and I'm sorry to have missed it -- but I'm locked in for Corsicana!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:27 PM (xVpNO)

197 Let's not get carried away here!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:57 PM

Concur.

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at June 21, 2026 09:27 PM (0sNs1)

198 111 No groveling.
Posted by: Zod at June 21, 2026 08:26 PM

Yo, Zod! S'up? You were missed at the MoMe.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (zC76q)

And most threads

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:28 PM (xcxpd)

199 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:27 PM (xVpNO)
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Howdy, bud!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:29 PM (ei1sX)

200 200!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:29 PM (xVpNO)

201 I found the complete lack of range babes in the 1917 video interesting, given the close proximity to the WAHFUAUVA.

Was Weasel experimenting with rice in his rear bag?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 09:30 PM (0sNs1)

202 Amusing side note: The base rifle I shot yesterday has an MSRP of under $1,000. I've done some minor upgrades, bolt lift kit, replaced the barrel because I wore out the original, trigger kit, etc. But, anyone who tells you you need to spend a fortune on a custom gun to get started shooting long range, well, no, not really. However, we won't discuss the cost of reloading gear. Sure, reloading your own saves you money...until you realize you shoot more.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:30 PM (UJMvS)

203 Howdy, bud!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:29 PM (ei1sX)

Weasel, sir.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (xVpNO)

204 Finishing my Flor de Oliva as the gun thread slows down. No shooting activities this week.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (hWzgv)

205 I hope it works out someday. It would be a pleasure to meet you!
Posted by: Weasel

It will take a year from my surgery in last Feb that I will know for sure as far as resuming any shooting longarms apart from rimfire or 223 in August at teh sixth month mark.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (E4rtv)

206 Watching the "old" movie, The Jackal, with Bruce Willis and Richard Gere. He tests out his big weapon somewhere in Canada, far enough away from people that a full-auto cannon won't be heard, as well as the explosion of a car.

And he fires it off sitting not 5 feet away, without hearing protection. The only nod to "it should be really loud" is he squiggles his ear with a finger afterwards. And it's the ear furthest away from the weapon. Mhmmmmm....

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (kU0PQ)

207 If you want range babes, look up Taran Tactical on youtube and watch the videos when various actors are training with him.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:32 PM (UJMvS)

208 And it's the ear furthest away from the weapon. Mhmmmmm....
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM

Maybe he was temporarily deaf in the ear closest to the weapon?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 09:33 PM (0sNs1)

209 Upon further reflection, I probably wouldn't have been very spritely at NoVAMoMe even if I'd made plans to attend. Some virus has been dragging down my family's energy pretty badly all week long.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:34 PM (xVpNO)

210 Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 09:30 PM (0sNs1)
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I couldn't remember when I included that for tonight if it was the "fourth shot" video of shame.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:35 PM (ei1sX)

211 202 Amusing side note: The base rifle I shot yesterday has an MSRP of under $1,000. I've done some minor upgrades, bolt lift kit, replaced the barrel because I wore out the original, trigger kit, etc. But, anyone who tells you you need to spend a fortune on a custom gun to get started shooting long range, well, no, not really. However, we won't discuss the cost of reloading gear. Sure, reloading your own saves you money...until you realize you shoot more.
Posted by: Blake

Software beats hardware on the range, but as you said, money spent on hi end reloading gear, premium brass, etc. can go well beyond a rifle.

Not for me, I'm afraid as I don't think I will probably ever be shooting hard recoiling rifles and shotguns again. We will see at the one year mark after my back surgery. I am probably downsizing my collection of old milsurps soon and selling off the reloading equipment for those weirdo military rounds while keeping a few for sentimental reasons or due to appreciating prices.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:36 PM (E4rtv)

212 Take Auto 5's apart as a last resort and if you are in there, replace all the springs and worn parts. I have a pre War with a suicide safety (trigger guard) and it is a beast, but you have to set the friction rings right.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv)

Yeah. This one has the suicide safety, which won't move at all right now. My game plan: Remove the stock, wash out the receiver and action with brake cleaner, blow out with compressed air, oil lightly with suitable oil, and reassemble. Buddy who owns it was shooting gophers with target loads, and it failed to eject. This gun is pretty beat up, and has had a hard life, I expect.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 09:36 PM (1z8ji)

213 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (E4rtv)
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Shooting is optional! Coming to visit is just fine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:37 PM (ei1sX)

214 Thank you Horde and thank you Weasel!

I learned stuff and have more questions than I started with. May your collective crawl spaces be clear of problems.

Posted by: TRex - unkestrelized dino at June 21, 2026 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

215 Finishing my Flor de Oliva as the gun thread slows down. No shooting activities this week.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (hWzgv)
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Nice. I found some of those in deep storage the other day and have a couple on deck for this week.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:39 PM (ei1sX)

216 I learned stuff and have more questions than I started with. May your collective crawl spaces be clear of problems.
Posted by: TRex - unkestrelized dino at June 21, 2026 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)
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You have my contact info!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:40 PM (ei1sX)

217 Mikhail Kalashnikov, inventor of the AK-47.

In January 2014, a letter that Kalashnikov wrote six months before his death to the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, was published by the Russian daily newspaper Izvestia. In the letter, he stated that he was suffering "spiritual pain" about whether he was responsible for the deaths caused by the weapons he created. Translated from the published letter he states, "I keep having the same unsolved question: if my rifle claimed people's lives, then can it be that I... a Christian and an Orthodox believer, was to blame for their deaths?"

The patriarch wrote back, thanked Kalashnikov, and said that he "was an example of patriotism and a correct attitude toward the country". Kirill added about the design responsibility for the deaths by the rifle, "the church has a well-defined position when the weapon is defense of the Motherland, the Church supports its creators and the military, which use it."

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I agree with the patriarch. A weapon is a tool. The designer isn't responsible for misuse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:40 PM (ndZc7)

218 honestly, really solid. I had a few low-right strings on dot torture yesterday but I'm happy with what's happening. I have other guns I love but I shoot Glocks well and I have hi-cap mags for them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

And the mags will be available for a long time at a reasonable price. That is what is problematic for a number of people, these rapidly changing models mean that magazines aren't available for boutique brands for long at a cheap price. They are using magazines as a driver of profits from a lot of handgun mfgs. Glock and Springfield XD are the exception but the newer Springfields seem to following S&W, Beretta, or other mfg pricing.

Bersas in particular can be ridiculous, you get the pistol cheap and then pay out the wazoo for mags. $299 firearm with a $50 per mag.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv)

219 Open thread in the time remaining for Doof jokes.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:41 PM (ei1sX)

220 Actually have what might be a dumb question for you Weasel. Noticed in your 1917 video that your front bag setup is pretty high, two bags stacked up. Seems like that would cause the dreaded wobbly shit, but seems to work for you. Is that to get you up higher in a more comfortable shooting position?

Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:44 PM (rmzEU)

221 It's quiet here. Too quiet.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:44 PM (ndZc7)

222 Yeah. This one has the suicide safety, which won't move at all right now. My game plan: Remove the stock, wash out the receiver and action with brake cleaner, blow out with compressed air, oil lightly with suitable oil, and reassemble. Buddy who owns it was shooting gophers with target loads, and it failed to eject. This gun is pretty beat up, and has had a hard life, I expect.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Start with the friction rings, you can find Auto 5 manuals online. My guess is the friction rings are buggered and perhaps congealed old grease.

I would use sewing machine oil for lube or the old 3-1. The tolerances are fine on the parts of them in those shotguns and they used really light oils back in the day for lube as they lubed field guns and cleaned them each day they used them.

And be careful with the brake cleaner, use the non chlorinated stuff as that can affect the rather thin bluing on those Auto 5s. Odorless mineral spirits would do as well (which is often what the non chlorinated stuff is anyway). And the rest you know, light grease on sliding surfaces, oil around pivot points.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:45 PM (E4rtv)

223 Have a good one, weasel! Thanks for the thread.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:45 PM (UJMvS)

224 And the mags will be available for a long time at a reasonable price. That is what is problematic for a number of people, these rapidly changing models mean that magazines aren't available for boutique brands for long at a cheap price. They are using magazines as a driver of profits from a lot of handgun mfgs. Glock and Springfield XD are the exception but the newer Springfields seem to following S&W, Beretta, or other mfg pricing.

Bersas in particular can be ridiculous, you get the pistol cheap and then pay out the wazoo for mags. $299 firearm with a $50 per mag.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv)

WA state's ammo restrictions really killed my interest in buying new tools. Luckily I stocked up on a variety of mags for my EDC options. Still...it's a barrier and started me on this trajectory.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:45 PM (xcxpd)

225 Shooting is optional! Coming to visit is just fine.
Posted by: Weasel
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What you are saying is that you need a target I guess (LOL). I warn you, I can't run fast so not much of a challenge in leading shots.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:47 PM (E4rtv)

226 Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:44 PM (rmzEU)
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Excellent observation! The short answer is yes, I need the extra height due to my using a higher rear bag. I sort of just grabbed what I had available at the farm that day. That setup is much less than ideal, but worked out ok for video exhibition purposes.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:48 PM (ei1sX)

227 And be careful with the brake cleaner, use the non chlorinated stuff as that can affect the rather thin bluing on those Auto 5s. Odorless mineral spirits would do as well (which is often what the non chlorinated stuff is anyway). And the rest you know, light grease on sliding surfaces, oil around pivot points.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:45 PM (E4rtv)

The brake cleaner I have is the non-chlorinated kind. I'm sure I have some real light oil here, but maybe a spray can of some sort of light gun oil would be better?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 09:48 PM (1z8ji)

228 Nite Blake!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:49 PM (ei1sX)

229 WA state's ammo restrictions really killed my interest in buying new tools. Luckily I stocked up on a variety of mags for my EDC options. Still...it's a barrier and started me on this trajectory.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Simplicity has a virtue of its own. I have too many to shoot and maintain much anymore and for the same reason, looking to trim down the collection to manageable size.

Weasel, if you are still interested in original content, I am about to pull old milsurp bolt action rifles out, clean them, and prepare them for sale which means pictures, etc. I'll try to send you some pix and a brief writeup on some of them.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:49 PM (E4rtv)

230
Open thread in the time remaining for Doof jokes.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:41 PM (ei1sX)

___________

So I can say what I want? Well, let me tell you something, pal!....

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:50 PM (O0L8i)

231 Doof is a joke?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 09:50 PM (2YhKe)

232 Good night all. As Hrothgar says, Corsicana in October.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 09:51 PM (LHPAg)

233 The brake cleaner I have is the non-chlorinated kind. I'm sure I have some real light oil here, but maybe a spray can of some sort of light gun oil would be better?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Rem oil is cheap and quite good. Sewing machine or clock oil is very good. I tend to use lubriplate for the grease on rifles as it is non toxic and I have a garand and m1 carbine.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:51 PM (E4rtv)

234 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:49 PM (E4rtv)
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Sounds great! Thanks. To all of you who have sent me stuff, I swear I will get to it eventually. I'm a little bit of a lazy-bones lately and typically leave writing the thread until Sunday afternoon. I need to get better about that!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:51 PM (ei1sX)

235 I had to at least SEE "The Astounding She-Monster!", so I skipped around a bit. Looks like quite the film....sometimes she walks slowly away from people as dramatic music plays, and sometimes she walks slowly towards them. Certainly cute, and that outfit shows some curves, but the 50s "punch sbooting" style doesn't seem very effective...it didn't slow "The Astounding She-Monster!" down at all!!!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 21, 2026 09:52 PM (ycI94)

236 Excellent observation! The short answer is yes, I need the extra height due to my using a higher rear bag. I sort of just grabbed what I had available at the farm that day. That setup is much less than ideal, but worked out ok for video exhibition purposes.
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:48 PM (ei1sX)

Thanks Weasel. I’d actually like a little higher rear bag as sometimes I have issues at my range getting the rear of the gun high enough to get on target. Was going to make a couple wood or cardboard shims to go under my current rear bag. Do you happen to remember the maker and model of rear bag you were using?

Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:52 PM (rmzEU)

237 That setup is much less than ideal, but worked out ok for video exhibition purposes.
Posted by: Weasel

Uh oh, you will find it hard to live down now. You should have pulled the inscrutable Weasel Fu--

"Grasshopper, when you can catch a fly in the hand, then you can learn the secrets of my shooting bags" or some such.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:53 PM (E4rtv)

238 Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:52 PM (rmzEU)
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100% I do. Protektor Shooting Bags in PA. Just search for Protektor and you'll find them. Very very very very highly recommended. Great people and products. If you don't see what you want online, just call them. Great folks!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:56 PM (8gM3l)

239 190 jah, most years. This year I was on vacation and nobody else felt like organizing it. Typically happens in May.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:22 PM (xcxpd)

Oh, I'll watch for it next year! I have a database conference I attend every May, but hopefully I can make it.

How big of a crowd is it? If you want someone else to do it next year, I have a cabin on Mt Hood I could offer. I'm mostly just a lurker, but I've been reading off and on for many years.

Posted by: frammish at June 21, 2026 09:56 PM (rcENI)

240 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:53 PM (E4rtv)
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I have again shamed my ancestors!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:58 PM (ei1sX)

241 Uh oh. I may have angered Doof.

Doof? Doooooof? Doofus? Doofey?

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:04 PM (ei1sX)

242 Augh!

Posted by: the hampsters at June 21, 2026 10:05 PM (VHUov)

243 Buddy who owns it was shooting gophers with target loads, and it failed to eject. This gun is pretty beat up, and has had a hard life, I expect.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 09:36 PM (1z8ji)

Check the brass friction rings around the magazine tube. There is a configuration for heavy recouping loads, and a different one for light loads.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2026 10:05 PM (bhZyo)

244 Weasel! What did you do to Doof?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:05 PM (OoFl2)

245 240 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:53 PM (E4rtv)
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I have again shamed my ancestors!
Posted by: Weasel

Seppuku is not allowed. We would have to run the Gun Thread and then the caliber wars would flare anew 45 v 9 30-06-308, madness lies that way.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 10:06 PM (E4rtv)

246 Weasel! What did you do to Doof?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:05 PM (OoFl2)
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I fear I have tormented him with ridicule!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:06 PM (ei1sX)

247 I miss Doof.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:07 PM (2YhKe)

248 ONT is Up!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:07 PM (qx7Zg)

249 Well…it was a wonderful ONT, folks. Take my word for it!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:07 PM (OoFl2)

250 Schwoo! Nite everybody!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (ei1sX)

Food Thread: Fish Eggs, Fish Eggs, Roly-Poly Fish Eggs!

Bottarga26.jpg

Ooh! That looks good! Except it is an odd dish that many people will carefully step around on the way to more conventional pasta dishes. Spaghetti alla Bottarga is a deceptively simple dish made of fish eggs, oil, and garlic...essentially Aglio e Olio with caviar! Except the Italian version of caviar is, A. much less expensive, and 2. made from the whole egg sac of Mullet, then salted and dried.

Yeah, it sounds a bit weird, but it is delicious, and a dish that I will order every time I see it, which is, sadly, very infrequently. I guess I should head to Sardinia, where it is a famous and popular dish, but that's a bit much for one plate of pasta, even for a glutton like me!

The base recipe can be used with pretty much any seafood, although I would stick to briny flavors like vongole (clams) or even anchovies! I think the pasta should be cooked in less water so the starchy water used to thicken the dish is as powerful as possible. And do not skimp on the garlic! But I shouldn't have to tell you that!

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65 Organizations Petition FDA to End Routine Preventive Antibiotic Use in Food Animals
A coalition of 65 health, consumer, environmental, farming, and animal welfare organizations has filed a citizen petition urging the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to withdraw approvals for the routine use of medically important antibiotics for disease prevention in food-producing animals.

The petition argues that administering antibiotics through feed and water to livestock and poultry that are not diagnosed with disease contributes to the development and spread of antimicrobial resistance (AMR). The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that AMR is associated with approximately 35,000 deaths and 2.8 million illnesses annually in the U.S alone.


I have no particular resistance (Hah! See what I did?) to decreasing antibiotic use in agriculture. Antibiotic Resistance is a huge problem that isn't getting any better, so we should certainly address overuse.

But that coalition of 65 organizations makes me deeply suspicious, especially the "environmental" and "Animal Welfare" organizations. They tend to be lunatics with political agendas, so let us tread lightly!

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'Cooking Oil Thieves' caught on camera in Fenwick Island
"They ride around with two large hundred gallon tanks inside their vehicles. Then they hook up to the tanks and are out of there in three to five minutes," Robert Quirk with the Fenwick Island police department told WBOC.

As opposed to "two small hundred gallon tanks?"

Well, it's Delaware, and they elected Joe Biden, so the assumption that everyone who lives there is a retard isn't unreasonable.

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From lurker "LF" comes more proof of the superiority of the American south (except for no snow!).
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Green garlic is available at farmer's markets in the south. Bought and used fresh, until frost. Clean, delightful.
[...]
Green garlic is a hint milder in the bulb, and the green stems are edible, yet a bit milder. Just happy to known it's not from a filthy polluted country.

LF Garlic26.jpeg

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David Lebovitz is pompous and irritating, but he does know how to cook, and his recipes are rarely fussy. Here he makes something I have never made...Strawberry Jam. Well, I have cooked down fruit for compotes and such, but I am not a significant consumer of jams and jellies, because I am not, nor have I ever been a big big breakfast guy. Vacations are different though; I love trying local joints, which can often be amazingly good, even in areas that are not known for their food.

And...jams and jellies tend to be quite sweet, which is a big No-No for breakfast, especially the dreaded Maple Syrup on French Toast mania!

But Lebovitz's recipe is straightforward and gives the option to cut the sugar, which makes it intriguing, even though he is a toad.

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The garlic is doing well! I think. I know all of you are worried, but it is still tall and green and healthy! And if they survive the deer and squirrel apocalypse, and actually grow into something edible, I will be in garlic heaven! Now I have to figure out when to harvest! Late June into July seems like the consensus. But I'm a Dildo, not a farmer! In case it doesn't work out, send all of your excellent home-grown garlic to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!

Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM




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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:02 PM (qEb4U)

2 I lkke grilled ham and cheese, fry ham a bit first then put in grilled cheese

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:04 PM (qEb4U)

3 Kaboom! Obama all caps comment center!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 04:05 PM (b84UO)

4 Barry! Tear down this throbbing boil and pay your contractors!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 04:06 PM (b84UO)

5 Nobody comments in all caps.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 04:07 PM (b84UO)

6 In Greece, Taramosalata, or cod fish roe salad was a lovely spread for grilled bread brushed with garlic and olive oil, along with melizanasalata (eggplant salad, virtually the same a baba ghanoush). In thessaloniki I tried a dried fish roe that was salted, cured, and sliced very thinly on the mezze tray. You ate it with olives and grilled bread. Very good!

So yeah, I would try the Italian version!!

Posted by: moki at June 21, 2026 04:08 PM (wLjpr)

7 Good afternoon, horde.

I think I'm having watermelon for supper.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:11 PM (h7ZuX)

8 Yesterday I made chicken farmer john with angel hair pasta and pesto sauce

nailed it

tonight is top sirloin, reverse seared
nobody cares

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 04:11 PM (RP2m/)

9 Nobody comments in all caps.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 04:07 PM (b84UO)

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IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I EXIST!!!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESSBERGER at June 21, 2026 04:13 PM (2UnvF)

10 Hello foodies! I had an amazing brunch, house made whole milk Greek yogurt, local honey, and fresh berries with an iced sage and orange latte. So good. I am still full, though I expect dinner will be an expectation.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:13 PM (hftzA)

11 Swordfish steak and asparagus for the grill this afternoon, accompanied by oven roasted red ‘taters. Cream Brûlée for dessert.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 04:13 PM (3Ope8)

12 7 Good afternoon, horde.

I think I'm having watermelon for supper.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21

I could get behind this. Do you get black diamond watermelons?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (hftzA)

13 No idea what my sister has for us today, butt cheesesteak tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (qEb4U)

14 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (2UnvF)

15 The base recipe can be used with pretty much any seafood, although I would stick to briny flavors like vongole (clams) or even anchovies!

Linguini con vongole is a great summer dish. Dad would love to spend hours in the bay between Tuckerton and LBI, to bring home 6-10 dozen clams. The chowders were for soup, little necks were for eating raw, and cherrystones were for pasta. If mom was feeling it, some of those were baked, often with just a small square of bacon. Those were good days...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 04:16 PM (nbLIj)

16 13 No idea what my sister has for us today, butt cheesesteak tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (qEb4U)

This is exactly the type of typo I would make. I am laughing so hard right now.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:16 PM (hftzA)

17 Spaghetti carbonara is bomb.

I’d make a pound of pasta and my boys would down it in one meal.

Simply, bacon and egg pasta.

Sometimes I would add preserved lemons and fresh basil. They ate it all. One sitting. Easy peasy.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:17 PM (X1Jq6)

18 Well said on the antibiotic resistance issue, CBD. This is largely a trojan horse issue by those who wish to extinct animal agriculture by making it prohibitively expensive. Of course antibiotics need to be administered judiciously but, IMO, this is a far greater issue among the human species. Especially since doctors are routinely cowed by every self-diagnosing Karen to prescribe antibiotics for every case of sniffles & sore throat that may actually be of viral origin. Furthermore, those who don't complete the full course as prescribed because they decide they're better or want to "save some for next time" are certainly contributing to the resistant strains.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 04:17 PM (kOluj)

19 114 101 Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, onions, pickles on a sesame seed bun.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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They did sesame seeds because they were cheaper than the traditional poppy seed bun.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 04:20 PM (iLKq8)

20 'mmm mmm...momma's makin' fish egg pasta!!!

Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 04:20 PM (8uzBS)

21 I recently invented putting BBQ sauce on hotdog sausage sammiches rather than catsup.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 04:21 PM (GNqmQ)

22 I could get behind this. Do you get black diamond watermelons?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (hftzA)

I get whatever my small town Kroger has, and I don't think it's Black Diamond. That sounds too fancy for Meth County, haha!

It is nice and red, though, and firm. I hate it when I cut one open and it's mushy.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:21 PM (h7ZuX)

23 The rule in human antibiotics:
If you aren’t showing improvement after 14 days, you prescribe antibiotics.

Who, in today’s world, is that patient?

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:22 PM (X1Jq6)

24 Outside typing, have screen display up high

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:23 PM (qEb4U)

25 14 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.

Posted by: Duke Lowell
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When things got going I took my iPad into the room and camped out. Sometimes you can't run fast enough.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 04:23 PM (iLKq8)

26 This is exactly the type of typo I would make. I am laughing so hard right now.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:16 PM (hftzA)

I missed it. I was still back there on Don Black's chicken farmer John. Voice to text error, DB being funny, or is chicken farmer John a thing?

*ponders

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:24 PM (h7ZuX)

27 16 13 No idea what my sister has for us today, butt cheesesteak tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (qEb4U)

This is exactly the type of typo I would make. I am laughing so hard right now.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:16 PM (hftzA)

I like big cheesteaks and I cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir Eats-A-Lot at June 21, 2026 04:25 PM (PiwSw)

28 I missed it. I was still back there on Don Black's chicken farmer John. Voice to text error, DB being funny, or is chicken farmer John a thing?

*ponders
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21

And now I am laughing even harder. By myself in the studio. Good morning, I hope no one looks through the glass doors because I have tears running down my face and look psychotic. I don’t know why these have struck me as hysterical today.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:28 PM (hftzA)

29 My mom made strawberry freezer jam. It's very easy and so good. She also made plum jelly when the local wild plum crop was big enough and my dad came home with paper grocery bags full. That is the best jelly I've tasted.

Posted by: huerfano at June 21, 2026 04:29 PM (VJX5o)

30 Wuzatta steak Inna grilled cheese?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 04:29 PM (Kt19C)

31 My go to grilled cheese is extra sharp cheddar, bacon and jalapeños .

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 04:31 PM (afJtY)

32 For Father's Day the wife is honoring my request for her homemade pizza. Crust from scratch and a pound of mozzarella well decorated with pepperoni, Canadian bacon, and mushrooms. For us, a classic.

Posted by: Toxic Jeff at June 21, 2026 04:31 PM (LL3es)

33 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.

check out the specials at DoorDash

Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 04:33 PM (8uzBS)

34 I made cherry preserves with home-grown cherries a couple of weeks ago. So good on sourdough toast.

I didn't get my starter out to refresh this morning, so no bread for me this week.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:34 PM (h7ZuX)

35 chili cheese dogs and fries

Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 21, 2026 04:34 PM (jrgJz)

36 Simply, bacon and egg pasta.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:17 PM (X1Jq6)

A signature dish in our family has this ingredient list. We called it Pastera, which could be confused with the traditional Easter pie. This is not that.

Boil two pounds of spaghetti and bake a pound of bacon in a medium-to-large roasting pan. Remove bacon from pan when done, but keep the fat. Strain the cooked pasta and dump it into the roasting pan. Toss a bit to get the bacon fat fully involved. Now scramble 8-12 eggs (you can add a bit of parsley to this for color and a bit of flavor) and pour into the pasta. Crumble the cooked bacon over the top and give the pan a little shake to settle everything then bake a 350 for about an hour. Do an extra 10 minutes at 400 for extra crispiness if you're into that kind of thing. Cool, cut into squares and serve.

Mom would sometimes pack this in my lunch instead of a sammich. I was a spoiled kid in many ways...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 04:35 PM (nbLIj)

37 Your pizza sounds great, Toxic Jeff. Do you bake in a regular oven, or do you have one of those specialty ovens?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:36 PM (h7ZuX)

38 I keep a bowl of cherries and a bowl of red seedless grapes in the fridge to go with ice water and lemon when I’m taking a break while doing landscape work. Perfect for hot days!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (3Ope8)

39 No idea what my sister has for us today, butt cheesesteak tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (qEb4U)

This is exactly the type of typo I would make. I am laughing so hard right now.

I'm still stuck on figuring out what "Butt Cheese" is.

Posted by: Fritzy at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (2GIh1)

40 I can't stand people who make being pretentious and artsy-fartsy about food into their whole persona. Bro I'm about to use my teeth to mash your masterpiece into paste, swallow it, then my gut is going to turn it into poop. Please find something else to be a snobby twat about.

Posted by: ballistic at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (oqH4h)

41 Depends on your definition of easy.

Is easy ordering grubhub? Or pizza?
Is easy popping in a microwave?

Is easy doing a little chopping and sautéing and then finishing in the oven?

And is easy most satisfying? I like preparing a meal from scratch. And sourcing ingredients. And prepping before the prep. It’s such a wonderful feeling to sit down and eat something thoughtfully prepared.

I made a pork chop for myself for lunch. Dusted in seasoned flour, fried I olive oil/butter. Added French herbs and a big dose of fresh lemon. Served with hummus, roasted eggplant, onion and garlic ( did that yesterday) and Greek yogurt.

Just me. It was nice.

Heading out to the beach. It’s 68 and sunny.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:39 PM (QBhXE)

42 Just finished some Safeway tater salad with my late lunch. I have such miser tendencies that I have to tell myself its okay to spend that much on a small container of tater salad because my labor time to make my own is not worth it when it is just me eating it. I should make a point of adding pickles and onions to the next container I buy though. That isn't time intensive and does kick up the flavor enough to be worth it.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 04:39 PM (PV+Zw)

43 Who, in today’s world, is that patient?
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:22 PM (X1Jq6

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I hear you. So many contributors to the issue... regulation and insurance bastardizing the doctor/ patient relationship and cost-benefit decisions. To say nothing of the internet making everyone half-smart about complex issues.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 04:40 PM (kOluj)

44 My husband loves Spaghetti alla Bottarga. Easy peasy as you said: make spaghetti aglio e olio and grate the bottarga over the top. Hub also thinly slices a few pieces of bottarga and adds it with the garlic when he sautes it for extra flavor.

There are several kinds of bottarga -- red mullet, grey mullet, bluefin tuna. You want the Sardinian grey mullet. Trust me.

Posted by: jix at June 21, 2026 04:43 PM (y687V)

45 " I keep a bowl of cherries and a bowl of red seedless grapes in the fridge to go with ice water and lemon when I’m taking a break while doing landscape work. Perfect for hot days!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead "

That sounds good but remember what happened to poor old Zachary Taylor.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2026 04:44 PM (vFG9F)

46 The use of antibiotics in food animals comes up every few years.

The US uses antibiotics in chickens to treat, control, and prevent bacterial diseases (such as necrotic enteritis), and to maintain flock health. However, under FDA regulations, these are heavily regulated, and strict "withdrawal periods" ensure no antibiotic residues remain in the meat before it reaches the market. (There are lots of rules & more than one antibiotic-free label.)

Shapiro Administration Moves Quickly to Protect Pennsylvania Farms from New World Screwworm, June 13, 2026

Antibiotics in U.S. beef and the recent resurgence of the New World Screwworm (NWS) are distinct but overlapping issues. While antibiotics are widely used in cattle management, neither the parasites nor the drugs present a food safety risk to consumers.

By federal law, all meat sold in the U.S. must be free of antibiotic residues, whether it is labeled "antibiotic-free" or not. (The USDA Food Safety and Inspection Service randomly tests carcasses to ensure compliance.)

We're not so bad. Right?

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 04:45 PM (NFX2v)

47 'mmm mmm...momma's makin' fish egg pasta!!!
Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 04:20 PM (8uzBS)

No she is not!! Shoulder roast for you!

Posted by: DanMa'am at June 21, 2026 04:48 PM (8uzBS)

48 37.
Regular oven she does.

Posted by: Toxic Jeff at June 21, 2026 04:48 PM (LL3es)

49 On Tech thread had a run together sentence. All day been typing then having to insert spaces between every word

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:49 PM (qEb4U)

50 'Cooking Oil Thieves' caught on camera in Fenwick Island
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There was a Simpsons episode about this...

Homer steals the cooking oil from Bart's school, but gets caught in the act by Groundskeeper Willie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu24aQ3D5sk

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 04:49 PM (gnNyN)

51 Wife and I used to make blackberry jam from the blackberries in the backyard...one year we made several GALLONS of blackberry jam, all with the seeds removed (because I hate seeds in my jam).

Haven't made jam in...probably a decade now. No desire.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 04:53 PM (l3cgK)

52 We're not so bad. Right?

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 04:45 PM (NFX2v)

No...our food is safe! I am more concerned with antibiotic resistance then food safety.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 04:54 PM (PLxDd)

53 48 37.
Regular oven she does.
Posted by: Toxic Jeff

Me, too. All of my cooking happens inside. I don't even grill. Don't have the equipment nor the skills.

If I had a place for it, I would consider building a brick oven outside.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:55 PM (h7ZuX)

54 51 Wife and I used to make blackberry jam from the blackberries in the backyard...one year we made several GALLONS of blackberry jam, all with the seeds removed (because I hate seeds in my jam).

I thought jam without seeds was called jelly....

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 04:55 PM (/enuJ)

55 Inc. com

Why Thieves Are Suddenly Targeting the Trash Behind Beachside Restaurants
Two men were just arrested in Delaware for stealing this common waste product. Here’s why officials don’t think it’s an isolated incident.
Jun 17, 2026

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 04:56 PM (NFX2v)

56 A grilled cheese ribeye is heresy. Now a tuna melt or patty melt is reasonable.

At least slice up the steak, savages, or your bread will be turned to mush and destroyed while you try to rip that steak apart with you teeth.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 04:57 PM (fkjGs)

57 I thought jam without seeds was called jelly....
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 04:55 PM (/enuJ)

Jelly is made from clear juice. Jam can have seeds strained out, but will still have fruit pulp.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:57 PM (h7ZuX)

58 54 51 Wife and I used to make blackberry jam from the blackberries in the backyard...one year we made several GALLONS of blackberry jam, all with the seeds removed (because I hate seeds in my jam).

I thought jam without seeds was called jelly....

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 04:55 PM (/enuJ)

No. Jelly is made from juice. Jam is made with fruit pulp.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 04:58 PM (l3cgK)

59 Jelly is made from clear juice. Jam can have seeds strained out, but will still have fruit pulp.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:57 PM (h7ZuX)

IDNKT, thanks DMLW

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 04:59 PM (/enuJ)

60 a grilled cheese sandwich is an unimaginative pupusa.
Fight me.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 04:59 PM (rbvCR)

61 A rib eye grilled cheese is like a poor cheesesteak

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 05:00 PM (qEb4U)

62 Mashing up threads. Last week when doing some decluttering of the garage, the George Foreman grill caught my eye and I decided that would be helpful to get myself to cook a burger, pork chop, steak etc. more often. I couldn't find the drip pan it is supposed to have but improvised with an oval glass dish from the cupboard. I have used it a couple of times and will use it more as it is way less hassle than the gas grill outside and taste and cleanup are both better than pan frying on the stovetop.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 05:00 PM (PV+Zw)

63 Marmalade has a peel...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 05:00 PM (l3cgK)

64 And, thanks Jim. My wife did all the food stuff, I am just a Moron

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 05:01 PM (/enuJ)

65 A grilled cheese ribeye is heresy. Now a tuna melt or patty melt is reasonable.

At least slice up the steak, savages, or your bread will be turned to mush and destroyed while you try to rip that steak apart with you teeth.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

So he accuses of of sucking at cooking, but he sucks at eating?

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 05:01 PM (VHUov)

66 And I accuse myself of not proofreading. "So he accuses us of....."

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 05:02 PM (VHUov)

67 64 And, thanks Jim. My wife did all the food stuff, I am just a Moron

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 05:01 PM (/enuJ)

She got me into it, including the sterilization of the jars/lids, adding the sugar, using the thermometer to know when to do which step. Lots of work, but folks loved it as gifts.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 05:03 PM (l3cgK)

68 I haven't thought about Fenwick Isl in, probably 50 years. We used to vacation in Rehoboth Beach (long before it was a ghey destination.) Such a weird heist for some cooking oil.

Was it used?




Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 05:04 PM (jehhT)

69 65 A grilled cheese ribeye is heresy. Now a tuna melt or patty melt is reasonable.

At least slice up the steak, savages, or your bread will be turned to mush and destroyed while you try to rip that steak apart with you teeth.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

So he accuses of of sucking at cooking, but he sucks at eating?

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 05:01 PM (VHUov)

Is your steak that tough? I guess you didn't sous vide it...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 05:04 PM (l3cgK)

70 Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 05:00 PM (PV+Zw)

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George Foreman grill is also a superior option for cooking bacon. Much less smoke than a skillet and can achieve whatever doneness you like just by varying duration.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 05:05 PM (kOluj)

71 I remember eating raw hamburger meat in the early 70's when helping my dad make meatballs. Never got sick. I wouldn't do it today for money.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 05:06 PM (KC5Lt)

72 I find making jelly is more trouble than it is worth. I can make apple jelly fine with juice, or the steamer, but I don't like it much.

I make an apple compote by peeling apples, shredding them, and then cooking the shreds down with sugar and pectin and a teaspoon or so of lemon juice. It comes out so much brighter tasting than the jelly. I make a pear compote the same way.
When you use the shredded fruit it is spreadable like jam.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:07 PM (rbvCR)

73 !!!! IT WORKED !!!!
Thank you to all that offered tips about cooking a brisket in a slow cooker.

While not Rancherbob quality it was definitely above parr. Melt in your mouth tender and moist.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:07 PM (afJtY)

74
This is the guy I got the Smash Taco recipe from that worked so well.

There's 4 varieties here. I made the Mexican taco version, duh.

Just great. A home-run. Everyone loved it. Instantly on the rotation.

The Pizza version looks great too, I'lll make it eat some point and the Breakfast Smash Taco looks like a perfect waker-upper.

Here's the vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVQPIpxjDv8

Fire up your flat-top grill or cast iron skillet and make some today.

Do it!

Do it now!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 05:08 PM (iJfKG)

75 The term I remember reading was, "inadvertently dragging the sandwich meat from between the bread slices like a hyena pulling the entrails out of a wildebeest it had stolen from a lion's kill"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:10 PM (rbvCR)

76 George Foreman grill:

All of them, Amazon, are teflon coated.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 05:10 PM (iLKq8)

77 Wouldn't think a rib eye grilled cheese would be bad, just poor substitute. My dad use to put in Lebanon bologna in one, did a few times and its ok

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 05:10 PM (qEb4U)

78 Speaking of odd foods, I had sweetbreads last night for dinner. They were quite good!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 05:12 PM (PLxDd)

79 I looked into 'brewing' bio diesel 20-30 years ago or just straining used fryer oil and setting up a pre-heat system in the vehicle. After reading a fair amount about it I decided not to mess with the chemistry to get bio-diesel and that I am not enough of a mechanic to create a pre-heat system so a diesel could run on straight oil and I will just pay the diesel prices.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 05:12 PM (PV+Zw)

80 George Foreman grill is also a superior option for cooking bacon. Much less smoke than a skillet and can achieve whatever doneness you like just by varying duration.
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 05:05 PM (kOluj)
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I'll have to try that some day. I do use mine for cooking burgers and smoked sausages. Works great for those.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 05:13 PM (gnNyN)

81 Better go prep the grill. This Sunday's steak is, apropos of Father's Day, the 24 oz ribeye. Partial credit to those guessing porterhouse, a solid dad steak, indeed. I opted for what was available and have no doubt that regret will find no home here today.

Sides are mushrooms and mashy taters. The wine? You would ask, wouldn't you? Ribeye comes alive against a solid merlot, but a recent guest brought a wine to me so we're going with that. A Cooper's Hawk Moscato.

(Ducks a thrown chair and tosses jerky sticks into the more animated section of the crowd)

Hear me out brethren! The red meat/red wine rule serves us well, but a lively white wine bearing the light carbonation of a Moscato cuts through the ribeye's fatty richness, cleansing the palate for the next enticing forkful. Let us boldly explore this path so rarely trod, and reap the rewards of the unexpected pleasures to be found therein.

I'll let you know next week if it sucked...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 05:13 PM (nbLIj)

82 My toaster died this week and I'm thinking of replacing it with a toaster oven. Since I live alone, it seems it might be useful. Any thoughts for or against? Brands to recommend?

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2026 05:14 PM (iIAkP)

83
The lovely and delightful Mrs naturalfake is making

Fried Chicken with Biscuits and Gravy for muh Father's Day Dinner.

Yay!

She paid attention when my Mom was still alive and make a perfect duplicate of Mom's Fried Chicken. So, life is great.

That seems to be one of her gifts, Mrs naturalfake often duplicate foods we eat in restaurants and like.

She lost always hits her target the first time and even improves on the recipe.

It's kinda amazing.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 05:15 PM (iJfKG)

84 Wenda, I bought an Emeril Legasse air fryer/oven and it is great.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:16 PM (afJtY)

85 Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 05:13 PM (nbLIj)

I had a Chablis with the sweetbreads, so you won't get an argument from me about wine pairings.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 05:17 PM (PLxDd)

86 I guess I should head to Sardinia, where it is a famous and popular dish, but that's a bit much for one plate of pasta, even for a glutton like me!

For a man who burns his house down to resolve minor maintenance issues, sojourning to Sardinia seems a trifle, barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 05:20 PM (0sNs1)

87 Here you go...those of you who wish to lose weight:

A new diet is sweeping through President Trump's cabinet-and it involves heaping portions of sauerkraut.
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick,
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy and Vice President JD Vance have all embraced the diet, drawn by the promise of slimmer waistlines and glowing skin.
They all apparently have determined the health benefits outweigh the slightly sulfurous odors that have been the cause of some domestic friction.
"Within 30 days I lost 20 pounds," Kennedy said at an event in Michigan this week. "JD
Vance is also on the diet and you can see how different he looks."
The diet is the brainchild of Dr. Sean O'Mara, who advises his high-profile patients to eat fermented foods such as sauerkraut and kimchi, alongside grass-fed steak-and to abstain from alcohol and sugary food.
O'Mara says the diet leads to a reduction in visceral fat, which wraps around organs, as well as a more robust microbiome, which can help with digestion.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 05:24 PM (iJfKG)

88 tosses jerky sticks into the more animated section of the crowd
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 05:13 PM

Obviously the other side of the hall, opposite the genteel and reserved Texas BBQ Aficionados.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 05:25 PM (0sNs1)

89 slightly sulfurous odors that have been the cause of some domestic friction

Wait until we happy-foot through your dining room. Slightly will be a distant memory.

Posted by: Penguins of the World at June 21, 2026 05:28 PM (JZDm4)

90
While not Rancherbob quality it was definitely above parr. Melt in your mouth tender and moist.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:07 PM (afJtY)

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Awesome! We've done fresh briskets in a slow cooker and generally treat them the same as any other beef roast, with similar results. Low & slow is the key.

I also have a recipe for corned beef in the slow cooker that I love. Basically cover it in Guinness and throw in a couple heads of garlic that are halved cross-wise. A couple other ingredients that escape me now....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 05:30 PM (kOluj)

91 Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 05:24 PM (iJfKG)

If you aren't making it yourself, where do you get fermented sauerkraut and kimchi?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:31 PM (OYsYV)

92 I'm a big fan of sauerkraut and potatoes, even without some good pork chops, pork loin, whatever.

In fact, tomorrow (depending on weather) I have some fresh bratwursts that could probably use some 'kraut on 'em.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 05:32 PM (jehhT)

93 My wife gets kimchi once in a while from Waremart, they keep it in the open fridge with the bagged salads. It is live, and it tends to bulge the jar lids.
Otherwise you can get it at US Food Source, which is a restaurant/bulk store, and of course H Mart and any asian market.
Live sauerkraut is harder, mostly it is canned.

I make my own, in fact I am making some right now. I make it in quart jars.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:35 PM (rbvCR)

94 Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:35 PM (rbvCR

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:36 PM (OYsYV)

95 I did the brisket too! My slow cooker is a Cuisinart, so it has a simmer heat. Very slow. Tender and juicy.

Tonight I'm having a salad of the last of it, cut into match sticks, with an equal amount of parboiled celery root, also cut into matchsticks, and a mustardy dressing.

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2026 05:39 PM (iIAkP)

96 And thanks for the toaster oven recommendation, Ben Had.

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2026 05:40 PM (iIAkP)

97 Matthew Kant Cipher, I use Guinness when making beans with ham hocks/bacon and beef with barley soup.
I don't think I could cook without wine, Guinness, rum or tequila.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:41 PM (afJtY)

98 I will serve the brisket for lunch tomorrow and make brisket nachos with what is left.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:43 PM (afJtY)

99 82 ... "My toaster died this week and I'm thinking of replacing it with a toaster oven. Since I live alone, it seems it might be useful. Any thoughts for or against? Brands to recommend?"

Wenda,
Years ago our toaster bought the farm. We found an inexpensive Oster toaster oven at Costco with mechanical controls, not electronic. It has a bigger foot print on the counter but it's worth it for us. We use it for toast and baking things like small winter squash. It can bake about six of my biscuits. And we use it to reheat a lot of things. Very sturdy and versatile. It cost about 35 bucks but that was about seven years ago. I liked it so much when Ollie's had it I got a second one as back up.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 05:49 PM (yTvNw)

100 Sauerkraut recipe:

Chop a cabbage in half, remove the heart, and peel off the outer leaves until you get a few nice leaves. Set the nice ones aside since you will need them

Chop the cabbage up into thin slices. A mandoline will work as well as a knife for smaller batches.
Pile shreds into a large bowl (I have some broad stainless bowls I got just for this sort of prep) and at this point you can add shredded carrots or green onions, or red pepper. Then add salt.
It doesn't need to be canning salt, but table salt can make your kraut soggy eventually.

The ideal ratio is between 1 or 2 tablespoons of salt to 1-3/4 lbs of cabbage. This is not an exact science.

Let the cabbage sweat for 30 - 60 minutes, You are now ready to pack the shredded cabbage into quart jars, and pack it down firmly. Leave an inch clearance on top and then cover the cabbage inside with a cabbage leaf trimmed to fit., fill the jar to cover the cabbage with the brine from the steel bowl.

Set it on the drainboard to age for 4-5 days to bubble over, then put it in the fridge to store. Start eating it whenever. It will turn khaki eventually when it is fully ripe.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:51 PM (rbvCR)

101 Ben Had - hell yeah! A well stocked bar is essential to both good cooking and coping with kitchen failures :-)

Here's that recipe: https://shorturl.at/u037q

I like doing the cabbage this way, but usually only do that on St Paddy's Day.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 05:52 PM (kOluj)

102 Matthew Kant Cipher, thank you. That is on my next to try list.

I love food !

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:54 PM (afJtY)

103 Egg sacs (roe) from pan fish, lightly crusted in cornmeal, salt and pepper, then fried in bacon grease til just before bursting open. Remembered from 1956 on the banks of Savannah River Swamp. Oh Lordy.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 05:57 PM (LHPAg)

104 Yay! Food!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 05:59 PM (zC76q)

105 Has anyone tried "glooking?" Here's the "You suck at cooking" guy explaining the process of glooking.
https:/www.youtube.com/
watch?v=mC78Adz93e0

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2026 06:01 PM (cWLG3)

106 RMBS, thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:04 PM (afJtY)

107 No problem, Ben Had.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 06:05 PM (zC76q)

108 Ben Had- I forgot that recipe wasn't actually a slow cooker recipe, but you can easily just throw those ingredients in the crockpot and put it on low. Also, I recall using a second bottle of Guinness instead of the beef broth - YMMV.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 06:06 PM (kOluj)

109 One of the very special things about the TXMoMe is that the meals are prepared by wonderful cooks on this thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:06 PM (afJtY)

110 Vance is also on the diet and you can see how different he looks."

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That diet should be banned immediately for anyone negotiating with the Iranians.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06:07 PM (XjKiU)

111 Cicero, that diet just makes it easier to fart in their general direction.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:09 PM (afJtY)

112 Remembered from 1956 on the banks of Savannah River Swamp. Oh Lordy.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 05:57 PM (LHPAg)

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Winn ah wuz a little bitty baby
Mah mamma woulda rock me in da cradle
In them ol' cotton fields back home

Posted by: J. Fogerty at June 21, 2026 06:10 PM (XjKiU)

113 Please find something else to be a snobby twat about.

Posted by: ballistic at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (oqH4h)

You seem nice.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:11 PM (PLxDd)

114 Hello Foodsters,

I have been enjoying Father's Day by working my fanny off on deferred projects that have achieved immediacy.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:11 PM (BGSp9)

115 Pete Bog, I shant believe it. You always have your ducks in a row.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:15 PM (afJtY)

116 I like when generic brands are better than the name brands for about half the price. Best example for me is Ritz crackers. They were my favorite for decades but some change must have been made. They just don't taste the same: not as tasty and they crumble too easily. The Food Lion version tastes like Ritz used to at about half the cost. Similar with graham crackers, Food Lion vs Nabisco, instant pudding FL vs Jello brand. The store version of potato chips vs Lays. The chips are different but good enough and the store brand doesn't insult me by charging the same for ever smaller bags.

The local Food Lion won my heart when they started carrying Bit O' Honey candy, one of my childhood favorites.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 06:15 PM (yTvNw)

117 I'm enjoying a cigar and a rusty nail - its my Father's Day present to myself. I'll make smashburgers later. Hope you all are enjoying your Sunday.

Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2026 06:15 PM (tTZHu)

118 111 Cicero, that diet just makes it easier to fart in their general direction.

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I'm all in favor of more farting and less giving away the family jewels.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06:16 PM (XjKiU)

119 Did anyone click on the top graphic?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:17 PM (PLxDd)

120 Chicken farmer John Parmesan?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 06:17 PM (R+iUD)

121 119 Did anyone click on the top graphic?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:17 PM (PLxDd)


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If only Dr. Demento was alive to see this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06:18 PM (XjKiU)

122 >>> 119 Did anyone click on the top graphic?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:17 PM (PLxDd)

No one expects a Mystery Click in the Food Thread!!!



(but I did catch the reference in the title)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 06:18 PM (R+iUD)

123 I had a Chablis with the sweetbreads, so you won't get an argument from me about wine pairings.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 05:17 PM (PLxDd)

Hey Dildo, someday you should try Sauternes with roast chicken or spicy Thai food. Great combination.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:20 PM (BGSp9)

124 JTB,
Kirkland brand stuff is, most times, very very good.

Go Mariners!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 06:21 PM (bxhng)

125 Posted by: ballistic at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (oqH4h)

You seem nice.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:11 PM (PLxDd)

I bet his or her thoughts on romance and commitment would be equally compelling.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:21 PM (BGSp9)

126
I like when generic brands are better than the name brands for about half the price. Best example for me is Ritz crackers. They were my favorite for decades but some change must have been made. They just don't taste the same: not as tasty and they crumble too easily. The Food Lion version tastes like Ritz used to at about half the cost.

I agree about Ritz on both counts (taste and crumbling).
We have no Food Lion here. I wonder if Kroger brand or Walmart brand are better?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:22 PM (Cqx++)

127 Going to shill for HEB . Their flour tortillas are beyond good

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:22 PM (afJtY)

128 Fermented foods have lots of probiotics and help the gut biome. Kombucha and kefir offer this as well.

Grass fed steak is just going to be leaner than corn fed or corn finished, and if you haven’t had it, it may have a slightly different taste when you first start to eat it. We do grass fed beef here for the most part, to include ground beef. That may be overkill, honestly, but it can’t hurt.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:23 PM (OoFl2)

129 36 ... :We called it Pastera, which could be confused with the traditional Easter pie."

Joe Kidd,
That pasta recipe sounds great. You had me at bacon. I had hopes for the dish at the top of the thread but Mrs. JTB is allergic to any seafood. Bacon is another matter.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 06:24 PM (yTvNw)

130 Speaking of fish heads there was an article linked on the tech thread about a robotic fish sorting machine that killed the fish quickly and bled them to keep the flesh fresh and more salable. Pretty interesting.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:24 PM (BGSp9)

131 Grass fed steak is just going to be leaner than corn fed or corn finished, and if you haven’t had it, it may have a slightly different taste when you first start to eat it.

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It's a decidedly different taste, and not for the better IMHO.

I always look for Angus beef, fed on grain and unlucky ranch hands.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06:26 PM (XjKiU)

132 Well back to the salt mine. A few more things to get done today before cooking the rack of lamb from the 4H lamb.

Wood fire I think.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:26 PM (BGSp9)

133 We have no Food Lion here. I wonder if Kroger brand or Walmart brand are better?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:22 PM (Cqx++)

I find a lot of Kroger brand to be equal or, often superior, to national brands. Usually.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 06:27 PM (h7ZuX)

134 No one expects a Mystery Click in the Food Thread!!!
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I'm going to mull it over.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2026 06:27 PM (XeU6L)

135 JTB,
Thanks for the information on your Oster toaster oven. Decisions, decisions....

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2026 06:27 PM (iIAkP)

136
You seem nice.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026

I wonder how to parlay this into a Mome give away. Both Snobby Twat and You Seem Nice need to be memorialized.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:28 PM (OoFl2)

137
robotic fish sorting machine that killed the fish quickly and bled them to keep the flesh fresh and more salable.

Robot fish vampire

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:28 PM (Cqx++)

138 Mariners win!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (A5RD0)

139 I always look for Angus beef, fed on grain and unlucky ranch hands.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06

Oh I bet the ranch hands might add a little piquant to the marbling!

Joking aside, you never know with pork!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (OoFl2)

140 Enlighten me, please. I have clean a fair amount of fish and they don't bleed.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (afJtY)

141 Enlighten me, please. I have clean a fair amount of fish and they don't bleed.
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There's a song idea in there somewhere.

Posted by: Alice Cooper at June 21, 2026 06:32 PM (XjKiU)

142 I wonder how to parlay this into a Mome give away. Both Snobby Twat and You Seem Nice need to be memorialized.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:28 PM (OoFl2)

I guess that instead of a "Fed" sticker, at next year's NoVaMoMee someone will slap a "Snobby Twat" sticker on CBD's back.

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 06:37 PM (1ieqq)

143 Hey Dildo, someday you should try Sauternes with roast chicken or spicy Thai food. Great combination.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:20 PM (BGSp9)

I agree! I'll make the roast chicken, you bring the d'Yquem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:38 PM (PLxDd)

144

Starting Monday, Aldi will be giving away free mystery boxes of groceries.

The limited-time blind boxes have different themes: snacks, fiber, protein, and “mystery.”

Available on a first-come, first-served basis, while supplies last, the blind boxes will be released at noon ET on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.

https://shorturl.ly/kROs1

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:38 PM (Cqx++)

145 Mariners win!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (A5RD0)

Are they Seattle's soccer team?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:40 PM (PLxDd)

146 145 Mariners win!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (A5RD0)

Are they Seattle's soccer team?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:40 PM (PLxDd)

*sucks in breath, holds...

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 06:41 PM (h7ZuX)

147 I prefer the uncooked tortillas from HEB. the Mi Tienda brand, which is an HEB brand. Cook them fresh in cast iron pan as needed.

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at June 21, 2026 06:41 PM (VCgbV)

148 “14 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.“

Go for a full brick of cheese!
The machine-gun burst will be fun!

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 06:42 PM (3hOgI)

149 Evening.

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 21, 2026 06:44 PM (b4s65)

150 lin-duh, they have a bakery brand that they are offering that is the lightest flour tortilla I have ever used.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:44 PM (afJtY)

151 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (2UnvF)

Ever had one before?

If you have...well, you know the score.

If you haven't...they fill your colon with air so when you wake up you're like a big ole whoopsie cushion. It's fun!

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 21, 2026 06:45 PM (b4s65)

152 Interesting combination of food in and out this evening.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:49 PM (afJtY)

153 I have made a watermelon salad as DMLW inspired me. Watermelon, cucumber, feta, a little red onion, and a big squeeze of lime.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:49 PM (OoFl2)

154 RANCH DRESSING: Hidden Valley clone -- makes 2 cups
Feel free to share with all of your European friends

1 cup mayonnaise (Hellman's or Duke's, not MiracleWhip)
1 cup store-bought buttermilk* OR
*1 cup whole milk + 1 tsp. cream of tartar
1 tsp. dried parsley
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. ground black pepper
1/4 tsp. garlic powder
1/4 tsp. onion powder
1/8 tsp. dried thyme powder

Combine all ingredients in a bowl ... Stir, chill, then stir again until uniform ... To thicken, gradually add Sure-Jell powdered pectin in 1/8 tsp. increments until the dressing is as thick as you want it to be.

Posted by: Kathy at June 21, 2026 06:49 PM (MOK4W)

155 CBD, thank you once again for the food thread and to all that bring such great recipes.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:50 PM (afJtY)

156 I like when generic brands are better than the name brands for about half the price. Best example for me is Ritz crackers. They were my favorite for decades but some change must have been made. They just don't taste the same: not as tasty and they crumble too easily. The Food Lion version tastes like Ritz used to at about half the cost.

I agree about Ritz on both counts (taste and crumbling).
We have no Food Lion here. I wonder if Kroger brand or Walmart brand are better?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:22 PM (Cqx++)
___________________________

I always go for the generic spices, flavorings, and cooking add-ins when buying. High end brand on garlic salt or powder tastes almost exactly the same and costs a few bucks more for a very small bottle, jar, container.

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2026 06:53 PM (dIske)

157 Ben had,
I've had the bakery tortillas and still prefer the ones you cook as needed.

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at June 21, 2026 06:53 PM (VCgbV)

158 That's a deal! You prefer a lighter fresher recent vintage or something with some age?

Be very careful with your answer

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 21, 2026 06:54 PM (BGSp9)

159 Thanks for the Food Thread, CBD.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 06:56 PM (zC76q)

First World Problems...

WhyStein26.jpg

Why do I have this in a cabinet? I don't particularly like the beer, there is only one, so it isn't even a set, and the reason for its existence is lost in the mists of time and approaching senescence.

I have a vague recollection of one of the brats going through a "Stella Artois" phase, so that must be why, but why it hasn't been tossed is beyond me.

Soon though, my village's semi-monthly bulk pickup will be worked hard. I will revel in discarding...pretty much everything!

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Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:01 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Never had one , not against trying one though

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (Ia/+0)

3 > Belgium 5.2% piss water

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (jehhT)

4 Some day it will be a highly prized, very valuable antique.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (g8Ew8)

5 If one would have taken the time to review the history of those experts. Especially the British guy who came up with the Covid mortality model, you would have seen so many red flags you would have dismissed them.

Posted by: polynikes
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He couldn't dismiss the Administrative State.
Look at the trouble he's having now when a whole team of tough, smart people on his side.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (iLKq8)

6 Stella gave those glasses out as a promotional gimmick to get people to try their crappy beer at bars and gin joints or the Wally World parking lot.

Throw it in the garbage where it belongs.

Posted by: Euro Trash Beer at June 21, 2026 02:06 PM (g7saB)

7 Good afternoon and Happy Father's Day for all Fathers - by virtue of biology or by assuming the role for kids, grands, and strangers.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:07 PM (ItpVy)

8 I don't get beer often, and big commercial beer never. But have a pub glass from one we built so keep it

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:07 PM (Ia/+0)

9 STELLA!

Posted by: Brando at June 21, 2026 02:08 PM (Cqx++)

10 Some day it will be a highly prized, very valuable antique.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

It will bring nothing except as part of a $1 box at the garage sale along with grandma's spoon and salt and pepper shaker collections.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:08 PM (ItpVy)

11 ***and the reason for its existence is lost in the mists of time
--

Speaking of drinking glasses. Preparing to mix a drink, last night, I discovered my one and only favorite glass missing. How does this happen? I searched for it again and again, today too. It's spaced aliens.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:10 PM (iLKq8)

12 First World Problems.

Too many arm chair Presidents calling plays?

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 02:11 PM (IY9No)

13 $1 box at the garage sale along with grandma's spoon and salt and pepper shaker collections.

Posted by: Tonypete
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Blaspheme!
_one who throws naught away

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:12 PM (iLKq8)

14 It will bring nothing except as part of a $1 box at the garage sale along with grandma's spoon and salt and pepper shaker collections.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:08 PM (ItpVy)

Then it will become a treasure forgotten with fond memories lost forever with the mists of time.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 02:12 PM (g8Ew8)

15 A large choir with every singer miked. This performance brought to you by Big Microphone. 4 mins.
youtube.com/watch?v=n9ot2MyW2w0

Posted by: gp at June 21, 2026 02:12 PM (Jr5Lq)

16 Too many arm chair Presidents calling plays?
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 02:11 PM (IY9No)

Admit his genius and let it go, he won't get less irritating or logically corrupt, but he won't keep following you around trying to prove you wrong.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:14 PM (rbvCR)

17 First World Problem: Configuring svxlink. I've been editing .conf files for forty years, and this is the deepest rabbit hole I've ever fallen into.

Posted by: gp at June 21, 2026 02:14 PM (Jr5Lq)

18 Then it will become a treasure forgotten with fond memories lost forever with the mists of time.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

You're exactly right and such a shame. Every time someone passes, we lose a book full of knowledge, experience and history of what was.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:14 PM (ItpVy)

19 Check out the history of the name of the beer and see if that changes your opinion - it did for me!

Posted by: Max K at June 21, 2026 02:17 PM (fgk4Z)

20 but why it hasn't been tossed

Because you might need it sometime.
Same as for the house full of similar kept stuff.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2026 02:17 PM (sl73Y)

21 You're exactly right and such a shame. Every time someone passes, we lose a book full of knowledge, experience and history of what was.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:14 PM (ItpVy)

LOL. We keep this up and we'll have written Kameltoe's next speech.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 02:18 PM (g8Ew8)

22 You have it because who throws out a perfectly good glass?



Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 02:18 PM (KC5Lt)

23 i have that glass too

copier !

Posted by: cherries in season at June 21, 2026 02:18 PM (Ozvnh)

24 Send them to me! They're perfect for our Sun AM breakfasts. Cranberry and cheap champagne. Pancakes, bacon and scrambled eggs!

Posted by: Miflin at June 21, 2026 02:18 PM (aA6YN)

25 15 A large choir with every singer miked. This performance brought to you by Big Microphone. 4 mins.
youtube.com/watch?v=n9ot2MyW2w0

Posted by: gp
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Good.
Now teach engineers and music producers that drummers cymbals are something to be recorded and the sound reproduces. Drummers pay good money for them and hit them for a purpose more than expending energy.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:20 PM (iLKq8)

26 My brother in law and my sister drank Stella religiously for years, might still. They came back from years in Colorado as barkeeps, so maybe a reaction to Coors.
A middle of the road lager from what I recall. Better than Coors, but what isn't?

Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2026 02:22 PM (sl73Y)

27 HAHAHA Stella. Here in liberal Chapel Hill a local bar hosted a beer tourney every year for a number of years around the same time as the NCAA basketball one. Knockout style head to head

Stella would win EVERY SINGLE YEAR because all the guys would split their votes around various porters stouts ipas etc while all the ladies (plus a good number of pansy ass lib type males wearing pants) would vote for the weak ass watered down piss flavored “beer drink.”

Thank you CBD for all your posts look forward to lurking on the food thread again!

Note….i don’t live in Chapel Hill anymore, escaped to the coast, near MCAS Cherry Point.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2026 02:23 PM (UhW4G)

28 Went to Costco yesterday and bought a dozen airline size bottles of lemonade flavored Svedka vodka for $10. It was my turn to buy the Birdie Juice for my golf group. The first world problem was how crowded Costco was.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 02:23 PM (KC5Lt)

29 My FWP today: Some of my wife's friends got together and made arrangements for a boat ride in honor of Father's Day. The other two guys are fine but their wives talk incessantly and are loud and obnoxious.

Just like our combined birthday party 3 weeks ago for 3 of us guys. It wasn't for us guys, it was an opportunity for them to exercise their harpyness.

I have an idea - let me alone. I'd much rather sit in my underwear on the deck drinking with the guys - only. We might speak, we might not. Perfect.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:24 PM (ItpVy)

30 Stella Artois is a headache in a can, just like Kokanee. Tastes OK when you drink it, next morning a headache. One or two is all it takes.

The glass would make good plinking target.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 02:26 PM (1z8ji)

31 They should move Fathers Day to the opening day of football.
This June stuff just ain't cutting it.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 02:28 PM (IY9No)

32 11.2 oz bottles.

WTF?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2026 02:29 PM (qFwJc)

33 We too have a Stella Artois (the other was broken somehow). Seem to recall getting them on one of those timeshare pitch trips. You know like you go to Key West, eat the lobster, drink the booze, snorkel the beautiful waters, and get sunburned. And say ixnay on the Imeshare-tay.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 02:30 PM (LHPAg)

34 You never know what will be worth something. I had a spinster great aunt who died and had her stuff auctioned off. She had been buying baking powder in the ornamental tins for about 5c each, and throwing the empties in the attic. The batch went for $5.00 each. The junk in her attic sold for more than the house and land.

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 02:30 PM (z6ONu)

35 If I tossed everything I haven't used in the last two years ... I'd have a fairly empty house. That might mean I'm getting boring, stuck in my routines, idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 02:30 PM (vbXSk)

36 I like Stella Artois. Liked it before the Bud purchase. I have those Stella glasses but they're not an actual pint. Close enough for drinking however

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2026 02:31 PM (L9YhZ)

37 36 I like Stella Artois. Liked it before the Bud purchase. I have those Stella glasses but they're not an actual pint. Close enough for drinking however
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2026 02:31 PM (L9YhZ)

it's my husbands favorite beer....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 02:36 PM (FtULh)

38 People say that Saturnalia was like Roman Christmas. I get it; there some parallels.

But I would posit that the real analog is Father's Day, except for how relatively unimportant Father's Day is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 02:37 PM (BI5O2)

39 Saturnalia was like Roman Gay Pride month.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 02:39 PM (Kt19C)

40 I had no idea it was Fathers Day today until I got in the truck to go get mulch.

Because the first thing I heard once she got up was "would you mind getting that mulch" ? Which meant "I'm going to say it all day until you bring home that mulch".

Straight up. Heard it was Father's Day on the radio. So I called my Dad on noon. He didn't give a shit either.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:39 PM (P5MQi)

41 An opera singer forms a choir of herself, singing each part slightly diferently: ewe tube 14 mins total but skip to the end if you just want to hear it..

https://is.gd/8QqXru

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:40 PM (ZVgZ4)

42 it was an opportunity for them to exercise their harpyness.

I have an idea - let me alone. I'd much rather sit in my underwear on the deck drinking with the guys - only. We might speak, we might not. Perfect.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:24 PM (ItpVy)

Bingo.

My dad always said he just wanted to be left alone for a day.

Never worked. Never has, never will. It's a pointless holiday, like if people celebrated monogamy for one day at a gay bath house. Wouldn't last past 9am.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 02:41 PM (BI5O2)

43 It would be better if you had your nic engraved on it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 02:42 PM (R+iUD)

44 I need to do more purging of stuff that I'll never use. I get stuck a lot on "well this is metal, I should make a run to the recycling place and include this, not just toss it" and "I should try to give this away not just toss it" But there is lots of stuff that I can toss in the dumpster with no angst.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 02:42 PM (PV+Zw)

45 Well not expecting my dad to be around forever, he is 89.
So going to go see him, mom and my sister.

Back when I get there

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:43 PM (Ia/+0)

46 Never worked. Never has, never will. It's a pointless holiday, like if people celebrated monogamy for one day at a gay bath house. Wouldn't last past 9am.

Its like everything else. The Womenz got Mother's Day - so Hell or High Water - we'll have to put up with the same shit.

Now make Steak and Blow Job day National ? And look, like everything else, its not like your or my old lady can't hire that out either.

And I can make my own Steak.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:44 PM (P5MQi)

47 The junk in her attic sold for more than the house and land.
Posted by: Buck

My Grandpa's barn has entered the chat - he had at least one Ford from every decade from the 00's onward. The Model 'C' that was in drivable shape brought north of $40,000 when we sold it.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:44 PM (ItpVy)

48 Drink something out of it and smash it in the fireplace.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 02:44 PM (O7YUW)

49 At our NoVaMoMe 5 years ago there was a guy there giving out Stella glasses and engraving them with requests. Mr. bluebell ant I got one for each of our sons who were barely of legal drinking age and they thought they were great.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 02:45 PM (afFes)

50 Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:39 PM (P5MQi)

Well, at least your wife didn't smother you with pillows as you remarked she might do on a thread from yesterday. All she asked for was mulch.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 02:45 PM (7RYym)

51 Well, at least your wife didn't smother you with pillows as you remarked she might do on a thread from yesterday. All she asked for was mulch.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 02:45 PM (7RYym)

I think she's scared. To smother me with a pillow, she'd have to climb onto my chest to do it.

Pretty sure that's how Kid #2 started. So I get her reservations.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:47 PM (P5MQi)

52 All she asked for was mulch.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 02:45 PM (7RYym)

He needs to apply himself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 02:47 PM (1z8ji)

53 Hey there, Buck! So nice to meet you yesterday.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 02:48 PM (afFes)

54 Stella Artois is a good beer, but they insist on 11.2 oz bottles, and that's a no go for me. I even went to a restaurant where they had it on tap. Server felt compelled to warn me that the normal 24 oz glass (I ordered a large), was going to actually be 22.4 oz. I see this shrinkflation rot has even hit Pilsner Urquell, a beer I still hold in very high regard.

Here's my deal: You figure out how much to charge for twelve ounces of your product. I figure out if your product is worth that charge. If you refuse to offer me twelve ounces of your product at any price, I'll find a vendor that will. Good day to you, sir - I say good day!!

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 02:48 PM (nbLIj)

55 Stella overseas tastes much better than the US version. Or used to.

Kronenburg 1664 is my favorite beer.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2026 02:50 PM (sn5xH)

56 Kronenburg 1664 is my favorite beer.

The absolute most excellent "domestic" I've ever drank. By far.

Can't get it here.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:52 PM (P5MQi)

57
My cupboard still looks like college. Stray mugs, glasses, whatevers as if from former roommates, people who dropped by, thrift shops, something nice that somehow hasn't broken yet. I've given away everything in moves a few times, but somehow it all keeps reassembling itself in my house. In fact, that gives me an idea for a sci-fi short story. Or a Disney movie, about all the mismatched mugs and dishes and silverware that get slammed together in some jolly hodgepodge, and suddenly the owner decides to remodel and they're all going to be thrown out or given away and replaced with shiny-new matching sets. Oh no!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 21, 2026 02:52 PM (XJ22o)

58 Decluttering elevates one's mood measurably.

Posted by: gp at June 21, 2026 02:54 PM (Jr5Lq)

59 My FWP is those packages that have a zip lock so you can resell them. That's all well and good but first you have to tear open the package. They could make it easy by having some perforated line you could tear along but nooooooo! They just have a notch on each side and expect you to tear it straight. But it doesn't tear straight and half the time you tear down into the zip lock defeated the whole purpose.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 02:55 PM (ndZc7)

60 >>> 56 Kronenburg 1664 is my favorite beer.
==
The absolute most excellent "domestic" I've ever drank. By far.

Can't get it here.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:52 PM (P5MQi)

Maybe, maybe not.
https://shorturl.at/k15u3

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 02:56 PM (R+iUD)

61 Oh, it’s 200 versions of herself, and took 8 weeks to create. The final product is very good. The “choir”” is at about 11:40 or thereabouts.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:57 PM (ZVgZ4)

62 A Chicago FWP.

https://tinyurl.com/5n7w7dx5

or the gangs will use it for target practice for their heavy weapons, and have reduced it to rubble. I'm not sure which is more likely.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 02:58 PM (qx7Zg)

63 Maybe, maybe not.
https://shorturl.at/k15u3
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 02:56 PM (R+iUD)

They have it at East End Louisville at that Total Wine ... $15 a six. Thanks for the link.

That's an hour drive one way. Gonna' be a no.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:00 PM (P5MQi)

64 I think I have a Fat Tire glass somewhere from a happy hour. My prized crappy glass was a big Crown beer mug from an epic crawl in Songtan. Where is it? Who knows.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 03:01 PM (kpS4V)

65 Stella overseas tastes much better than the US version. Or used to.

Kronenburg 1664 is my favorite beer.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2026 02:50 PM (sn5xH)

When I was in Amsterdam, I reluctantly ordered Heineken, bracing for the skunky experience of the stuff that washes ashore in the US. It was a revelation, so much so that I can enjoy an occasional glass here because my palate can now sense what it's meant to be..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 03:01 PM (nbLIj)

66 Rumours are flying in the media about Keir Starmer resigning the U.K. Prime Minister position in a few days.

Did someone have the same conversation that was had with Justin Trudeau? (Always fun trying to tell a narcissist that the party's over and that they're going to step down, or the really BAD blackmail pictures will surface. What, you didn't think these guys actually resigned voluntarily, did you?)

Now back to our "what to do with the lone beer glass" discussion...

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 03:01 PM (O7YUW)

67 Use kitchen scissors to cut the package open so you don’t mess up the zip lock.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 03:03 PM (ZVgZ4)

68 Stick a candle in it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 03:03 PM (afJtY)

69 I think I have a Fat Tire glass somewhere from a happy hour. My prized crappy glass was a big Crown beer mug from an epic crawl in Songtan. Where is it? Who knows.

I still keep a pilsner glass just for the occasional bottle. And a pint glass as well.

Right now ? Miller High Life Lite out of a bottle.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (P5MQi)

70 1st World Economic Problems.

KTVU
@KTVU
A decline in car break-ins across Oakland is being welcomed as a public safety win, but it is also contributing to a downturn for some local auto glass repair businesses.

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A thug shortage.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (ndZc7)

71 62. Heh, I was looking at the week in pics memes on KTs thread yesterday and had to look up what the letters actually said.

And couldn't help thinking "sounds like a Kamala Harris quote" afterwards. Why the architects didn't convince Barky to cut down the length and at least only have the letters on 1 building side the world will never know. Maybe they figured it was ugly and stupid regardless so why not have the words wrap around the 90 degree corner. I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)

72 Four tall boys of Kronenberg for $8 is not, however, a bad deal. I wonder if they could order me a flat ? Because I'd drive the 45 minutes to pick up a flat of 1664.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:07 PM (P5MQi)

73 59 My FWP is those packages that have a zip lock so you can resell them.
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Scissors. Glass, party dip jars. Zip lock w/real zippers. I transfer everything into more secure packaging.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 03:07 PM (iLKq8)

74 I think I have a Fat Tire glass somewhere from a happy hour. My prized crappy glass was a big Crown beer mug from an epic crawl in Songtan. Where is it? Who knows.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 03:01 PM (kpS4V)

I used to collect beer mugs. My favorite is one my kid sister brought home for me from her Germany trip. Ceramic, bearing the Berlin city crest and holds a proper liter. Took it to many a kegger back in the day..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 03:07 PM (nbLIj)

75 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 02:58 PM (qx7Zg)

I think that the meme was funny, but don't know how they'd get up there to paint all that graffiti

When we have to stop for a train, we often watch the art on the cars. Some of these people are rather talented . It's a shame the cat find a way to use this talent in a more productive way. Then again, if they're doing train car grafitti it means they probably aren't stabbing or robbing someone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:08 PM (lQ+/f)

76 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.

Posted by: PaleRider
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Murder Bird Statue

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 03:08 PM (iLKq8)

77 "Stella! Stelllllllaaaaaaaaaa!!!!"

Posted by: Sam Adams at June 21, 2026 03:09 PM (X+xvk)

78 73: Depending on the size of the resealable bag I just use a twist tie or bag clip when their zip lock fails. The frozen veggies are annoying. I've cut the top with scissors so many times only to find that no, you had to open the ziplock on the one side to be able to reseal the bag. If their reseal is not going to be useable they should just save themselves the 1/2 cent per bag and not have the stinking ziplock at all.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:11 PM (PV+Zw)

79
71

I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM

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I would be surprised if that didn't happen. Nobody anticipated that, or a few people knew better but kept quiet?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 21, 2026 03:12 PM (lsrsS)

80 I know I haven't changed my opinion on anything since I was 11.

UK Approves Trans Puberty Blockers for Children as Young as 11

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:13 PM (ndZc7)

81 Then again, if they're doing train car grafitti it means they probably aren't stabbing or robbing someone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:08 PM (lQ+/f)
But isn't the theme of the grafitti all about stabbing or robbing people?

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:14 PM (LHPAg)

82 Then again, if they're doing train car grafitti it means they probably aren't stabbing or robbing someone.

Yeah ... if they're defacing or taking somebody else's shit ... it couldn't be that bad.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:16 PM (P5MQi)

83 A thug shortage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (ndZc7)

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Please, "a pyrsyn experiencing thuggishness."

Posted by: NY Times Style Sheet at June 21, 2026 03:17 PM (PiwSw)

84 Rosie O’Donnell Claims Trump Will Use an “Assassination Attempt or a Terrorist Bombing” to Cancel Midterms

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So he's going to fake another assassination attempt.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:17 PM (ndZc7)

85 >>> 83 A thug shortage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (ndZc7)

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Please, "a pyrsyn experiencing thuggishness."
Posted by: NY Times Style Sheet at June 21, 2026 03:17 PM (PiwSw)

I thought it was " a pyrsyn involved in the justice system".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 03:18 PM (R+iUD)

86 So he's going to fake another assassination attempt.

I've bitched about him all day. But credit where credit is due. The Old Man showed a bit of "color" on the last one.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:19 PM (P5MQi)

87 Your prayers have been answered!

Yeah, Baby! Mike Myers Confirms “Austin Powers 4” in the Works

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:19 PM (ndZc7)

88 >>>I will revel in discarding...pretty much everything!

Um, that sounds like more than spring cleaning?

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (6wpGE)

89 Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:14 PM (LHPAg

It's in no recognizable language to me. Maybe it's their initials or something.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (looXz)

90 1st World Economic Problems.
KTVU
@KTVU
A decline in car break-ins across Oakland is being welcomed as a public safety win, but it is also contributing to a downturn for some local auto glass repair businesses.
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A thug shortage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (ndZc7)
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Have you ever witnessed the anger of the good shopkeeper, James B., when his careless son happened to break a pane of glass? If you have been present at such a scene, you will most assuredly bear witness to the fact, that every one of the spectators, were there even thirty of them, by common consent apparently, offered the unfortunate owner this invariable consolation--"It is an ill wind that blows nobody good. Everybody must live, and what would become of the glaziers if panes of glass were never broken?"

Posted by: Zombie Bastiat at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (2tnrG)

91 I'll see your 'Stella' and raise you a Falstaff Goblet … which was also used to serve root beer at Frostop …

Posted by: Dr_No at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (ayRl+)

92 Posted by: Euro Trash Beer

hahahaha

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:21 PM (6wpGE)

93 I still keep a pilsner glass just for the occasional bottle. And a pint glass as well.

Right now ? Miller High Life Lite out of a bottle.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (P5MQi)

Since my move to Florida, I keep my pint glasses in the freezer. Otherwise, I'd have to pound every beer if I wanted to enjoy it cold. I do find a pint glass is the superior delivery system for beer, properly bathing the tongue while the foam plays into my sinuses for a fully immersive experience. I understand the utility of drinking straight from the bottle or can when on the beach or in a boat, but at home, nothing beats a frosted glass...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 03:22 PM (nbLIj)

94 I've bitched about him all day. But credit where credit is due. The Old Man showed a bit of "color" on the last one.
Posted by: Howdy

Eddie Scarry: New York Times Writers Are Mad About the War Ending. That Means Trump Is on the Right Track

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:23 PM (ndZc7)

95 >>> 91 I'll see your 'Stella' and raise you a Falstaff Goblet … which was also used to serve root beer at Frostop …
Posted by: Dr_No at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (ayRl+)

I'd never heard of this so had to look it up. You can get it in a some hardware stores, and there are even a few drive-ins remaining:
https://frostop.com/drive-in

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 03:23 PM (R+iUD)

96 Stella was a scam

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8wFCXsygs

Posted by: Syme993 at June 21, 2026 03:25 PM (wNgri)

97 Eddie Scarry: New York Times Writers Are Mad About the War Ending. That Means Trump Is on the Right Track

It is honestly ... about me and my wife. If she caught cancer - and I had the cure ? She'd rather die.

That's politics today.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:25 PM (P5MQi)

98 I guess whores stick together.

Gov. Hochul Extends Free Healthcare for Sex Workers with NY Taxpayers Footing the Bill

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:26 PM (ndZc7)

99
It's in no recognizable language to me. Maybe it's their initials or something.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (looXz)
They all mean something.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (LHPAg)

100 >>> 98 I guess whores stick together.

Gov. Hochul Extends Free Healthcare for Sex Workers with NY Taxpayers Footing the Bill
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:26 PM (ndZc7)

She's just trying to help the NY tourism industry.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (R+iUD)

101 I used to have a glass from McDonalds that had the ingredients of a Big Mac in several different languages on it. All you had to do was recite them in less than five seconds. Got it in the mid 70s. Mom threw it out because there was lead in the paint.

Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, onions, pickles on a sesame seed bun.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (2UnvF)

102 Only fags have beer glasses shaped in this fashion. If I can't get a proper pint and am caught with one of these schooners, you can clip my man card.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (fkjGs)

103 They all mean something.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (LHPAg)

Yes, I'm sure it does, but I'm not part of the hood so I can't translate it. It's just that the use of the colors and shapes shows some artistic ability by these folks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (jtjbl)

104 Ilike glasses for the drink, wine types, rock glass for scotch
No reason to be uncivilized

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (qEb4U)

105 Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, onions, pickles on a sesame seed bun.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (2UnvF)
Damnit, Lowell. Now I want a Big Mac and I haven't had one in 20 years. Same as a Royale, right?

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (LHPAg)

106 57 My cupboard still looks like college. Stray mugs, glasses, whatevers as if from former roommates, people who dropped by, thrift shops, something nice that somehow hasn't broken yet. I've given away everything in moves a few times, but somehow it all keeps reassembling itself in my house.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 21, 2026 02:52 PM (XJ22o)

You've described my cabinets. Exactly.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (6wpGE)

107 Good news, everyone!

Earth May Survive the Sun’s Fiery Death in New Study That Flips Science on Its Head

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:32 PM (ndZc7)

108 Earth May Survive the Sun’s Fiery Death in New Study That Flips Science on Its Head

Next we're gonna' learn that biocarbons from below the ground come from ... get this ... the extreme heat and pressure from below the ground. With a massive assist from a great big nuke reaction in the sky.

Not from dino matter. You know ... not finite.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:34 PM (P5MQi)

109 Same as a Royale, right?
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (LHPAg)

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Royale is the quarter pounder. Euro weenies use Royale because they use the metric system like all countries who haven't been to the moon.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:35 PM (2UnvF)

110 Absolute Dictator AOP would station snipers in railyards and other sites known for "tagger" activity. Said snipers to be equipped with integrally suppressed paintball guns. The paintballs would include powerful dyes that bond to protein in human skin, so the splat won't wash off, plus a dollop of blistering agent, like mustard gas. Not enough to be lethal, just enough hurt real good, and make them seek medical attention. Then they could be arrested at the ER.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 03:35 PM (1z8ji)

111 Not enough to be lethal, just enough hurt real good, and make them seek medical attention. Then they could be arrested at the ER.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 03:35 PM (1z8ji)

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Harsh, but fair.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:37 PM (2UnvF)

112 Absolute Dictator AOP would station snipers in railyards and other sites known for "tagger" activity.

Gotta' say ... I would lure AOC in with something like a ride in a big truck. Maybe some fishing. Then I'd put on some old school Alabama on the radio. Subtle.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:38 PM (P5MQi)

113
Royale is the quarter pounder. Euro weenies use Royale because they use the metric system like all countries who haven't been to the moon.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:35 PM (2UnvF)
Only time I ever heard of a Royale was in the movie Pulp Fiction.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:39 PM (LHPAg)

114 101 Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, onions, pickles on a sesame seed bun.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (2UnvF)

pickles, onions

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (6wpGE)

115 I am down to only two beer pint glasses, as my Budweiser broke due my carelessness. It was given me by a Bud girl working the local liquor store in New Jersey. She said if I bought a 12 pack, I'd get the glass, and she could finally go home. Not a Bud drinker normally, but what the hell, her smile and look if relief was worth it.

The second glass came from The Flying Fish Brewing Co, a place I frequented in PA. That one just disappeared and I suspect it was broken by someone. I have a spare, and the other survivor is from the Back Bay Brewing Company, a Boston establish of which I have many fond memories..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (nbLIj)

116 Only time I ever heard of a Royale was in the movie Pulp Fiction.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:39 PM (LHPAg)

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Same, but I'm still gonna use it to make fun of the euros.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (2UnvF)

117 >>>Soon though, my village's semi-monthly bulk pickup

It's glass, so it's recyclable.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:43 PM (6wpGE)

118 ot: If you need a Wildfire containment for your lab you're vaccine isn't ready for people.

Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (FhXTo)

119 pickles, onions
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (6wpGE)

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I almost went back and changed it but I figured I had a 50/50 shot. Plus, it was fifty some odd years ago and I can't believe I remembered as much as I did.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (2UnvF)

120 119 pickles, onions
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (6wpGE)

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I almost went back and changed it but I figured I had a 50/50 shot. Plus, it was fifty some odd years ago and I can't believe I remembered as much as I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (2UnvF)

Whatta team! *highfive*

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (6wpGE)

121 I would welcome the sun wiping us out, at least the global warming crowd would STFU

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:45 PM (qEb4U)

122 I recall my first job out of college (actually started in my last semester). They provided a very nice 1985 two tone Ford XLT pick-up with electric windows even!

My daily routine included getting off work, stopping at the local pac-n-sac and getting two, count 'em two, Stellas for my drive home from near Hobby airport to Meyerland in Houston.

That was totally legal in those days.

Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 03:45 PM (8uzBS)

123 Stella in Europe is a thing of beauty, but here it's dreck. And it's loaded with preservatives, I think of the HFC variety, to make it shelf stable. Hubs liked it occasionally but it sent his gout into another solar system. No bueno.

Posted by: Effie Perrine at June 21, 2026 03:46 PM (p1D+n)

124 OT- u like the awful obituary for the actress from Alf who had a burning hatred for Trump, politics first even seem to be mentioned I. This obit. It's for James Burrows who directed "Cheers", Mary Tyler Moore show and other sit coms:

"But beyond his remarkable achievements, Burrows will be remembered for something even greater: his kindness, generosity, and unwavering belief in the people around him,” his family said in its statement. “He possessed a rare ability to make everyone better and was known for remembering every person he met by name, making colleagues at every level feel seen, valued, and appreciated"

Sounds like a very nice guy Full story at Legal Insurrection" site.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:46 PM (looXz)

125 FWP: I guess my landlord finally got tired of seeing all of the shit piling up in my yard and decided to get me a permit for the local dumping yard and landfill. I ain't paying to dump that stuff get me a county permit.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (fkjGs)

126 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)
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This, too, is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (amcLV)

127 Insert:
Lauren Sanchez swaps sultry dresses for leggings as she flaunts her all-natural beauty in rare glam-free photo in honor of Father's Day
_DM

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (iLKq8)

128 KTVU
@KTVU
A decline in car break-ins across Oakland is being welcomed as a public safety win, but it is also contributing to a downturn for some local auto glass repair businesses.

Next report:
A decline in street gang murders is contributing to a downturn in mortuary businesses and the layoff of several grave diggers.

Film at 11

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (MNCvZ)

129 Sorry, typos . Politics doesn't even seem
To to be metioned.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:48 PM (looXz)

130 I would welcome the sun wiping us out, at least the global warming crowd would STFU
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:45 PM (qEb4U)

I get it ... but Fuck No. I just enjoy the idea of things getting a little less easy.

Because that is all it will take.

And then you'll see certain folks here pissing and moaning. But not for long. Because their ability to emote online will just stop.

And then I'll like that much more. I'm like that.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:48 PM (P5MQi)

131 126 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)
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This, too, is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (amcLV)

This is MAGA Country!

Posted by: What the Chicago birds are saying at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (PiwSw)

132 126 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)
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This, too, is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (amcLV)

They're coming home to roost.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (6wpGE)

133 What's a 'queef' … ? (asking for a friend …

Posted by: Dr_No at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (ayRl+)

134 It would be nice to have a set of beer chalices without the Stella logo on them, in my opinion.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (EI0rs)

135 Been decades, but found German beer here and there a world of different

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (qEb4U)

136 Tower of All Caps Comments. Behold the SCOAMF South Side Shit Hole.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (b84UO)

137 132 126 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)
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This, too, is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (amcLV)

They're coming home to roost.
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (6wpGE)

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Nice!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (PiwSw)

138 120 119 pickles, onions
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (6wpGE)

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I almost went back and changed it but I figured I had a 50/50 shot. Plus, it was fifty some odd years ago and I can't believe I remembered as much as I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (2UnvF)

Whatta team! *highfive*
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (6wpGE)
You've convinced me to take Mrs. E to McDonalds for supper.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:51 PM (LHPAg)

139 You've convinced me to take Mrs. E to McDonalds for supper.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:51 PM (LHPAg)
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Hot apple pies return in 2 days.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:52 PM (amcLV)

140 57, 106> Random drinkware in cupboard.

No collection of eclectic cups is complete without the indestructible dark red Pizza Hut tumbler.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 21, 2026 03:52 PM (a4flb)

141 I'll see your 'Stella' and raise you a Falstaff Goblet … which was also used to serve root beer at Frostop …
Posted by: Dr_No

I'd never heard of this so had to look it up. You can get it in a some hardware stores, and there are even a few drive-ins remaining:
https://frostop.com/drive-in
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Somewhere, a manufacturer of Black hair-care products wants a trademark battle.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 03:52 PM (VHUov)

142 FWP here… gotta actually do some work next week.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 03:52 PM (3Ope8)

143 On Father's Day, happiness is your oldest son sending this link:

https://shorturl.at/1Iv6s

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 03:56 PM (kOluj)

144 I saw apple pies are back, use to love them

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:56 PM (qEb4U)

145 What's a 'queef' … ? (asking for a friend …

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 03:57 PM (Kt19C)

146 a queef is a pussy fart

Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 04:00 PM (8uzBS)

147 This is actually funny since myself and the SIL just did a cleanout of the liquor cabinet today. Ok, the the SIL did the cleanout while I "supervised". A lot of "one-off" glasses got relegated to the bin. A couple bottles (nearly empty) also got tossed. One or two (nearly empty) bottles got,...umm,...emptied and relegated. Nice Father's Day afternoon.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at June 21, 2026 04:01 PM (7kJyR)

148 Get cleaned up and upstairs
FOODIE NOODIE TIME

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:02 PM (qEb4U)

149 Stella Artois is brewed by AB Inbev of Belgium, who is also the parent of Anheuiser-Busch - the maker of Bud Light. Since I have never cared for Anheuiser-Busch beers, and therefore don't drink Budweiser, I was unable to participate in the Bud Light boycott. So I stopped drinking Stella Artois as a kind of vicarious boycott.

Just in case you need an excuse to trash a perfectly usable glass.

Posted by: b at June 21, 2026 04:04 PM (bufu1)

150 Stella Artois makes me phlegmish.


So do Brussel Sprouts and Belgian Waffles. Go figure.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2026 04:59 PM (1vOUV)

151 My daily routine included getting off work, stopping at the local pac-n-sac and getting two, count 'em two, Stellas for my drive home from near Hobby airport to Meyerland in Houston.

That was totally legal in those days.
Posted by: DanMan
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For years, my daily routine when heading home from work was to stop and buy a beer to drink on the way. Never thought a thing about it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2026 06:18 PM (XeU6L)

152 Afternoon.

I got a couple of Crown Royal glasses. They're okay. They're quite good at holding whiskey before I put it down my gullet.

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 21, 2026 06:27 PM (b4s65)

153 the stella rep 'round these parts hands them out pretty regular.
the opaque red plastic ones are good for yard highballs, and the little glass 6oz ones are my fave wine glasses. i should give the others to my brit nextdoor, he goes through a metric tonne of stella.

Posted by: cmeat at June 22, 2026 12:02 PM (R11M+)

Another mRNA Vaccine? Really?

The science of vaccines and the resulting public health miracles are one of the glories of Western Civilization. We eradicated Small Pox, have marvelous vaccines for Rabies, Tetanus, Diphtheria, and a slew of childhood diseases that can be dangerous like Pertusis (Whooping Cough), Mumps, and Measles.

But the arrogance of the government medical establishment, coupled with good old grifting conspired to create a "modern" vaccine for a manufactured disease that has destroyed the trust that most Americans had for the once-vaunted FDA and its offshoots, and the medical establishment that carried its water during the catastrophically destructive COVID fiasco.

They created a disease, they lied about its origins, they used it to destroy our civil liberties and manipulate the country to be more compliant, and perhaps worst of all, they sabotaged possible treatments to favor their dangerous and expensive vaccine and treatments.

So why should the American people think that all of those failings have magically disappeared, and the new and improved FDA/Pharma/Deep State is any more invested in the health and well being of America?

FDA Advisers Recommend Approving First mRNA Influenza Vaccine

The Food and Drug Administration should approve the first messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) vaccine for influenza, the agency’s vaccine advisory panel said on June 18.

The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee in a unanimous vote advised the FDA to approve an mRNA flu shot from Moderna for adults aged 50 and older.


The same mRNA technology that is implicated in some serious side effects? The same mRNA technology that was used to create the COVID vaccine that was famously awful? And all for a disease that has shifting antigens that are very difficult to identify quickly enough to create an effective vaccine? The flu vaccine works adequately, but it is by no means impressive, and the mRNA vaccine won't change that, so why risk the documented side effects of an mRNA vaccine when the traditional vaccine is safe?

Oh. Look! Money!

“The presented data do indicate efficacy against flu with no safety signals,” Dr. Hana El Sahly, a professor at the Baylor College of Medicine and committee member who worked on a trial for Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine, said after the vote.

First of all, this harridan should have never been allowed on the committee because she has a clear conflict of interest in making mRNA vaccines mainstream. Second, she is a liar. Their own data show a higher risk of complications, but she uses typical biomedical weasel-words to avoid admitting that..."no safety signals?" what the f*ck does that mean?

Traditional vaccines work wonderfully. Until mRNA vaccines are shown to be equal to or better than traditional vaccines, in particular for diseases that by definition cannot be eradicated or whose vaccine is only marginally effective, we should be very, very suspicious!

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1 Gokd afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:01 PM (Ia/+0)

2
g'early afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 21, 2026 12:03 PM (AMvSw)

3 .
"They" just did "it" wrong before. It'll work this time.

Posted by: Marooned at June 21, 2026 12:04 PM (kt8QE)

4 Profits must be down at Big Pharma.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 12:04 PM (jehhT)

5 Howdy, CBD! Hope you've been able to live down the slanderous labelings of the NoVaMoMe Morons...

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:05 PM (kOluj)

6 To me they shot themselves in the foot, so don't cry to me on common sence gun control.
Ihave serious doubts about any vaccinations anymore.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:05 PM (Ia/+0)

7 Step one: Create new disease!
Step two: Offer a radical new cure!
Step three: Profit! $$$

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 12:07 PM (gnNyN)

8 Also, spot-on assessment. Pineapple proctology is better treatment than these lying whores deserve.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:08 PM (kOluj)

9 I spent my adult life running the inoculation gauntlet (sometimes literally, with two lines of corpsmen jabbing me right and left like it was an initiation rite) and getting the annual flu shot. I loved in high density areas and traveled to exotic locales.

Now that I live the life of a suburban hermit I see little need, and shrug it all off.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 12:09 PM (kpS4V)

10 for adults aged 50 and older.

... I see they do have a plan to make Social Security solvent

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2026 12:10 PM (O7XEN)

11 Lived, not loved! Ha!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 12:11 PM (kpS4V)

12 I AM NOT A PIN CUSHION !!!!!

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 12:11 PM (IY9No)

13 >>> 3 .
"They" just did "it" wrong before. It'll work this time.
Posted by: Marooned at June 21, 2026 12:04 PM (kt8QE)

We have the Right People In Charge!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 12:11 PM (R+iUD)

14 That is quite the image for the man once portrayed as America’s scientific hero.

By Inauguration Day morning, Fauci and his legal team reportedly had their eyes locked on one goal: getting that pardon signed, sealed, and safely accepted.

Martin confirmed that the pardons were being pumped out by autopen rather than Joe Biden himself.

He explained that, legally speaking, the presidential pardon power is near absolute.

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2026 12:12 PM (O7XEN)

15 My wife passed away last year after a brief illness. Up until then, she was healthy as a horse. Cause of death was Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura (TTP). Duration from onset of symptoms to death was about three months.

Now, I'm reading that there have been individual case reports along with studies finding a link between TTP and the mRNA vaccines.

Covid didn't kill my wife, but the vaccine may have.

Fuck Fauci.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2026 12:12 PM (J4Dwc)

16 Here's the best safety signal of all: if you pick up a mainstream publication and read something like "this major publication is offering a news item based on the based on testimony of this expert, whose expertise is endorsed by another major institution of quality learing and also the government," then run for your muthahphukkin' life, brotha.

This concludes this public service announcement.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 12:12 PM (BI5O2)

17 This will also be "Trump's Vaccine" until it isn't.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 12:14 PM (R+iUD)

18 .
.
How Vaccines Work.
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Put about one centimeter cubed of liquid immune system antagonist, (AKA vaccine,) into an interstitial space of about one micron cubed in sacrificial tissue where said immune system can learn from said antagonist. Trust the science, the vaccine will not escape into the vascular and lymphatic capillaries which have been ripped apart by the overwhelming volume of antagonist.

Posted by: Marooned at June 21, 2026 12:15 PM (kt8QE)

19 If our ruling class says something is good and you should do it, it is bad and it will hurt you.

It's not they just care about their own power and don't have your best interests at heart. They actively hate you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 12:16 PM (BI5O2)

20 Step one: Create new disease!
Step two: Offer a radical new cure!
Step three: Profit! $$$
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 12:07 PM (gnNyN)

This was the plot of Mission Impossible II IIRC. Life imitated art only with no car chases or gunfights. And big Pharma made bank as the citizenry acted like the sheep they are.

Posted by: The FDA is captive. And can suck my balls. at June 21, 2026 12:16 PM (TbWk/)

21 I still remember Fauci predictig their plot to overthrow President Trump

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:18 PM (Ia/+0)

22 This was the plot of Mission Impossible II IIRC. Life imitated art only with no car chases or gunfights. And big Pharma made bank as the citizenry acted like the sheep they are.
Posted by: The FDA is captive. And can suck my balls. at June 21, 2026 12:16 PM (TbWk/)
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Yep. It's also the plot of "Mount Dragon" by Preston & Child.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 12:21 PM (gnNyN)

23 Am a pure blood. Nein to the Mrna clot shot and any injections of any kind. So far so good.Includes our children and grandchildren. Never trust medicoes again.

Posted by: kingsman at June 21, 2026 12:21 PM (ehY6c)

24 I would think this administration knows what Fauci did and why. That they apparently are not at all interested in pursuing him tells me that they believe his pardon is sound or the administration thinks he has information that would damage Trump, perhaps severely.

Any or all of that. Despite the perpetual bitching and moaning from the public to do something.

Which makes me wonder why there's been no attempted hit on the guy or a go-fund-me type effort to hire someone to do a snatch-n-grab. Despite his security crew... which for the right price would likely give him up anyway.

*shrugs* Lots of stompy feet... no action.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 12:23 PM (jehhT)

25 For all of the world's technical and medical knowledge and advancements, the Wuhan Red Death proved most people are stupid and would rub ivermectin on their assholes 3 times a day and bark at the moon while wearing their knitted masks from some hollywood celebrity if the government told them to. I wonder what ever became of those old farts who dressed up like Moon Men just to go out to eat? Hilarious.

Posted by: It Was All A Scam at June 21, 2026 12:23 PM (g7saB)

26 Afternoon everyone. Thx CBD.
Happy Father's Day to all the daddys.

Given the cover up of the VAERS data on the COVID vaccines I think approving another mRNA is juuuust a bit premature

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2026 12:24 PM (L9YhZ)

27 I did get the new, improved shingles vaccine -- but that's it. I am done with vaccines, except for tetanus when it comes due again. I am always poking myself or stepping on something weird and I've never had issues in the past -- that I know of.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at June 21, 2026 12:30 PM (DK5Sh)

28 If your mRNA vaccine causes blood clots in your lungs or you require a respirator, seek consultation with your medical provider before taking further boosters.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 12:30 PM (fkjGs)

29 Article at American Thinker brought up this Auto-Pen pardons. Brought up only one of the thousands he signed only 1 personally, Hunter's.. We have to be suspicious of all these signed without providence. Anyone could have got a hold of thatlike itcwas a college prank.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:31 PM (Ia/+0)

30 Never Let a Crisis Go to Waste

Posted by: YosemiteSatchmo at June 21, 2026 12:32 PM (tlMsu)

31 Trump pushed through his vaccine at warp speed
Morons applauded

Posted by: Paul at June 21, 2026 12:34 PM (cfeRq)

32 I probably should get shingles vax but as this problem they caused isn't making me run to get one.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:35 PM (Ia/+0)

33 "Step one: Create new disease!
Step two: Offer a radical new cure!
Step three: Profit! $$$" Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

It helps if between one and two, there is a 1B: Kill a bunch of people, and promote a fear campaign (led by MSM).

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 12:36 PM (vbXSk)

34 Until mRNA vaccines are shown to be equal to or better than traditional vaccines, in particular for diseases that by definition cannot be eradicated or whose vaccine is only marginally effective, we should be very, very suspicious!

Unless Christ Himself comes to Earth and says that mRNA vaccines are the bomb, I shall never trust them. I'm not a research beagle.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 21, 2026 12:36 PM (ExV1e)

35 Still waiting for the Nuremburg 2.0 to expose all of this in one venue. Weird how no definitive documentary has been made. Weird.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 21, 2026 12:38 PM (diia5)

36 No thanks. Not interested

I don’t even get the traditional flu shot anymore since the covid debacle. Trust gone

BTW… I haven’t had flu since before covid

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2026 12:39 PM (26GAh)

37 Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there in the moron universe.

I called my son and wished him a Happy Father's Day, he wished the same to me.

I haven't had a government sponsored shot for anything since the 80's when a flu shot made me sick for a week. I got the pass around sickness of the week when my son was in the public education school system, got all my immunity boosters from him too.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 21, 2026 12:39 PM (Q/FnY)

38 31 But at time while it was still of unknown origin. A disease comes up and a quick cure is needed it was looking like a great accomplishment. President Trump didn't pay to have that virus brought to the country and world.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:40 PM (Ia/+0)

39 The last thing big medicine wants to do is cure people of anything. It would be like police departments wanting crime to end. Bad for business.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 12:40 PM (3cXW4)

40 I renewed my tetanus vax a year or so ago, though getting any shot makes me wonder what else they might try to sneak in, for my own good. Tetanus shot should be every ten years I think, had been about 30 years for me. Some say they are not necessary because odds of getting tetanus are so low ... idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (vbXSk)

41 This Baylor doc… female with middle name Mohammed? I looked up her page at Baylor… full name Hana Mohammed El Sahly…. I’m not interested in her opinion

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (26GAh)

42 I hear that there is an AI created mRNA vax uo for human trials soon. This it?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (4tsnh)

43 I recently got a new doc because I moved. At initial appointment he’s pressuring me to get shingles vax… I may find another doc. Don’t like being pressured

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2026 12:43 PM (26GAh)

44 Covid didn't kill my wife, but the vaccine may have.

Fuck Fauci.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2026 12:12 PM (J4Dwc)

My brother died from his stomach cancer. Something his doctor said would not happen. That prognosis was delivered circa 2019. Three years post COVID vax (not sure but think it was J&J), the cancer stopped responding to the chemo, and he was gone within months. He also had a sizeable blood clot in his left leg. Blood clots do not run in our family.

We argued over the wisdom of taking an experimental vaccine for a virus that seemed no worse than the flu. His information came from mainstream media, where mine came from talk radio and medical experts who were able to get their message out before getting shut down.

Fauci has accomplices. May they all burn in hell..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 12:43 PM (nbLIj)

45 40 I renewed my tetanus vax a year or so ago, though getting any shot makes me wonder what else they might try to sneak in, for my own good. Tetanus shot should be every ten years I think, had been about 30 years for me. Some say they are not necessary because odds of getting tetanus are so low ... idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (vbXSk)

The “experts” now say every 5-7 years.

I wonder if “experts” are paid vax companies which make more Money 5-7 vs 10.

Nah that’s just crazy conspiracy thinking. always trust the experts. And remember quadruple mask and stay 6ft apart.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 12:44 PM (3cXW4)

46 I may find another doc. Don’t like being pressured
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Check if there are any small or solo docs around

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:45 PM (4tsnh)

47 The obvious thing is to use all these proponents of the next mRNA vaxx for a twenty year trial--pharma execs, doctors, nurses, regulators approving them, and if they drop dead, then we have a pretty good idea whether or not the vaxx might work before releasing them on the unsuspecting public.

No one is clamoring other than Big Pharma for mRNA vaxxes when other conventional vaxxes exist and it will actually cause a lot more people to simply skip vaccines altogether due to distrust of exactly what is in the vaccine.

Own goal for the rather stupid and manipulative public health community.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 12:46 PM (E4rtv)

48 Aside from the listed negatives with mRNA vaccine(s) that were shown by COVID I personally will make every effort to avoid every taking a Moderna vaccine. Gates is probably mostly interested in sterilization as a side effect and that is not a factor from my old as dirt self; but I wouldn't put it past him and his Moderna staff to try to sneak in something that makes us old fogies more likely to die and I don't want to give them one red cent, even if I thought they had the best product at a cheaper price.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 12:47 PM (PV+Zw)

49 Some dystopian movie should have a mostly destroyed landscape with Barack's monument to himself left.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:47 PM (Ia/+0)

50
The big problem with mRNA is that flu mutates quickly and as shown in Covid,

the mRNA creates antibodies aimed at one single type of antigen target, and-

not aimed at multiple antigens like various proteins with the virus or bacteria.

It's "effectiveness" disappears within a single year.

It's a stupid way to vaccinate and needs much, much, much more testing. Probably, multiple years worth given the donkey-fucking carnival that was the covid mrna vaccine.

Do. Not. Want.

The regular flu vaccine is just fine.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 12:48 PM (iJfKG)

51 I think it'll be hard to con the rubes with another disease related operation. The pool of hardcore, mask wearing weirdos is thinning out. It's not like 2020 anymore.

Even some who took the covid operation seriously and did self isolation, perhaps without all the other horseshit, won't buy another op like it.

The next "compliance op" will be different. Probably "security" related. Run by the Democrats once they're back in power. And it'll be absolutely draconian.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 12:48 PM (jehhT)

52 Until mRNA vaccines are shown to be equal to or better than traditional vaccines, in particular for diseases that by definition cannot be eradicated or whose vaccine is only marginally effective, we should be very, very suspicious!

Its a genetic therapy. That's why Big Pharma is so excited about it. And frankly why Big Gub is so willing to go along.

It quite literally triggers your body to alter itself to produce new responses to a stimulus. Let that sink in. Now - this may be the first real step to a cancer cure. Or many others.

And lets be real about this. Generations some of you revere rushed their kids in to be the first test subjects for the original polio vaccine.

All that said to say this - its bullshit the way the entire industry is pushing it. But that's another example of the Government / Industry alliance we have now.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 12:49 PM (P5MQi)

53 I don't trust them not to double up on some vax you think your getting.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:49 PM (Ia/+0)

54 Check if there are any small or solo docs around
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:45 PM (4tsnh)

Those are pretty much extinct. Maybe in a small town there might be some remnants of the wild ways. But generally speaking doctors are now either employees of some (often PE backed) conglomerate or if they own the practice part of a network. Either way your health is the least of thejr concerns. Visits per hour and revenue per patient is what they care about.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 12:49 PM (3cXW4)

55 I have decided against the shingles vax, Skip.
Keeping my immune system up is my chosen approach.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:50 PM (4tsnh)

56 46 I may find another doc. Don’t like being pressured
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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All med insurance and gubmint specific payments to adminster to physicians and hospitals should be barred for drugs as well as vaccines.

It creates a bad incentive to push something nasty just for the doc to get their cash spiff.

And ban them advertising the damn stuff or refuse to let Big Pharma write off costs from that on taxes and no sidepasses to NGOs to encourage that shit.

Government in medicine and food has basically shit in its nest as far as believability because the political process is not the way you want to figure out treatments nor diet. They do bad enough just dealing with welfare.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 12:50 PM (E4rtv)

57 You wanna see how insane the discussion with the left has gotten?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/
jfoum/forums/show/39.page

Posted by: Jeff at June 21, 2026 12:51 PM (wEnou)

58 I may find another doc. Don’t like being pressured
Posted by: LinusVanPelt


Just tell Doc Idiot that you have already had the shingles shot.

Posted by: Never Trust Them at June 21, 2026 12:51 PM (g7saB)

59 My longtime family dr is a solo practice. She scrapes by, great family dr, and I love her despite her being a lib.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:53 PM (4tsnh)

60 You wanna see how insane the discussion with the left has gotten?

That link doesn't work for me, but I saw on Fox this morning that there's an official, funded Antifa operation to fill the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool with algae because Trump cleaned it.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 12:54 PM (QZThv)

61 Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (vbXSk)

I got a tetanus shot about 6 years ago. Shortly before the "get the clot shot mania" The HMO gave me some combo that included Pertussis. Bit of a sore arm for a couple days was my only side effect but I was not thrilled at them sneaking in that Pertussis when I agreed to get a tetanus vaccine. I'll probably wait until the next time I get a puncture wound to get another tetanus shot, however long that is. Hopefully I haven't jinxed myself.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 12:54 PM (PV+Zw)

62 Speaking of retarded decision switch the left…

On Reddit there was a post by someone saying something like look how well of Europeans are they can take 6 weeks vacation to go to the World Cup. But in America everyone takes only a week vacation because it’s all they can afford. This was triggered by reports of how Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK.

Meanwhile there are a gazillions posts how the wild cup is so expensive nobody from Europe can afford to go. Also a lot of talk how Trump and his Gestapo ICE has scared foreigners from attending.

It’s crazy how they’ll say the exact opposite thing in the same breath and not skip a beat.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 12:55 PM (3cXW4)

63 lol, oh hell no.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2026 12:55 PM (VyBeY)

64 Algae antifa should be charged with bio terrorism

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:55 PM (hLhMb)

65 Its nothing new FWIW. In the 60s ? Psych meds. Doctors loved to prescribe psych meds.

Folks - what you're getting over is the credentialism that has been a hallmark of both parties. Republicans love Doctors and Cops. Democrats love Professors and Lawyers.

I'll just focus on this topic. Just because he or she is a Doctor ? Really no more trustworthy than any other contractor. Because that's all they are.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 12:57 PM (P5MQi)

66 Even during the hight of forcing the vax on people the lackof public service announcement of harmful effects was missing.
No If you take the Fake Vax, diarrhea, high blood pressure and clots could occur, stop.taking the Fake Vax if these symptoms occur.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:57 PM (Ia/+0)

67 >>>Trump pushed through his vaccine at warp speed
Morons applauded

Posted by: Paul

>Trump created the logistics to provide Fauci's vaccine. Did you see Trump in the lab personally mixing up a witches brew?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 12:58 PM (fkjGs)

68 I worked in a California school district throughout the lockdowns. It was decided the elementary and middle schools could open, and it was depressing to walk those campuses and see masked children getting hectored by hysterical adults to keep apart, and pull their masks up. The end section to "Another Brick in the Wall" kept looping through my brain - "Go on, do it again.."

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 12:58 PM (nbLIj)

69 Frankly I don't understand why even under the senile pervert the parks folks did not routinely add algaecide to the reflecting pool. Was there some tree hugger push that the reflecting pool needed to be like a natural pond with algae and frogs and fish etc?

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 12:59 PM (PV+Zw)

70 I had mild hypertension pre-Vax. Post J&J vax its a lot worse; need 4 meds now. Coincidental maybe.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 01:00 PM (hLhMb)

71 Trump created the logistics to provide Fauci's vaccine. Did you see Trump in the lab personally mixing up a witches brew?

No. But lets call it what it was. Trump was out front and center bitching at DeSantis for opening up FLA too soon. Trump - being what he is - put Fauci and Scarves front and center and whatever panic porn they told him was the gospel.

Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.

He was publicly pissed that Big Pharma didn't announce them soon enough in the campaign cycle.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (P5MQi)

72 Exactly one year after my 2nd Moderna shot when testing opened up again a biopsy showed stage 4 liver cancer. I’m convinced the jab caused the cancer . Had lotsa treatments and it’s under control but doc says we’re playing whack a mole and it’ll get me one day. I deeply regret getting those shots, I even asked the pharmacist if he’d vaccinate the garbage can and skip giving it to me but he refused

Posted by: kelly cereal lurker at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (bn0S5)

73 We need a retard vaccine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (GNqmQ)

74 Pardons do not shield perpetrators from civil liability or co-conspirators from criminal process.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (lLWPg)

75 "It’s crazy how they’ll say the exact opposite thing in the same breath and not skip a beat. "

"the issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution."

even if it's just the 24/7 psy-op of spreading FUD about anything & everything ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (VyBeY)

76 Prayers for you, Kelly Cereal

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 01:02 PM (pKd0j)

77 > ... but I saw on Fox this morning that there's an official, funded Antifa operation to fill the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool with algae because Trump cleaned it.
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Purportedly the Park Police who oversee security at the monuments and memorials in the capitol city made a couple arrests last night as some idiots tried to mess with the reflecting pool (again.) One's said to be a former Olympic kayaker.

Why we're not putting the assholes behind Antifa's funding in a box is beyond me.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:05 PM (jehhT)

78 Exactly one year after my 2nd Moderna shot when testing opened up again a biopsy showed stage 4 liver cancer. I’m convinced the jab caused the cancer.

And your conclusion is not impossible. Firstly - I wish you well and hope things are moving in the right direction.

Those of us that took it - and I took the original J&J - took a test genetic therapy. No two ways around it.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:06 PM (P5MQi)

79 Well, maybe it is happening.

@LeadingReport 7m
UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer to resign, per POTUS.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 21, 2026 01:06 PM (diia5)

80 Trump was taking advice from the most wicked authorities who. wanted to close the country

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:06 PM (Ia/+0)

81 won't buy another op like it.
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Most people didn't buy the first op. That's not the point. Government says "this is the op and between us and Karen, you're going to comply, or else."

It's not about people believing the lie. It's the opposite. The sillier the lie the better.

"This outbreak of mild skin rashes will extinguish the sun unless you superglue your testicles to your taint. Until we reach 89% ultratucking saturation, nobody gets to leave the house. Also, pants are now illegal. We're all in this together. Register at gluedeeznuts.com for your free tube of Cyanoacrylate Solidarity Adhesive brought to you by Pfizer and the Ad Council."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:07 PM (BI5O2)

82 Trump was taking advice from the most wicked authorities who. wanted to close the country
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:06 PM (Ia/+0)

Yes. He was. Which does not absolve him in the slightest. The buck stopped with him.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (P5MQi)

83 It’s crazy how they’ll say the exact opposite thing in the same breath and not skip a beat.

Posted by: Heroq

Well, Reddit. But I have seen the video of the young woman ticking off her expenses to the tune of $55k and six weeks off. Definitely reminded me of the Coachellla influencers, so I'm going to guess that's her job, or she has rich parents. Maybe both.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (yFLFB)

84 Meanwhile there are a gazillions posts how the wild cup is so expensive nobody from Europe can afford to go. Also a lot of talk how Trump and his Gestapo ICE has scared foreigners from attending.

The funniest I've seen yet is mass Bluesky REEEEEEE because a World Cup tourist was going on about flavored ice at Sonic. The female (of course) spokesthey/them said "Please don't use the word 'ice', we're going through some things here".

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (QZThv)

85 I was lucky, my work let me apply for, and approved, religious exemption for the clot shot. And at that they wanted to know "how will you keep co-workers safe?". During the period when they were strongly encouraging WFH, and folks had to schedule to be in office because they were keeping occupancy at no more than 25%, and then 50% and I was one of the folks who had zero interest in commuting to be in the office.

My riding buddy was "but you are not very religious" But I do identify as christian, and I have read the bible, and since it was all online its not like I had to have memorized chapter and verse for listing why I felt that getting the shot would violate my religious beliefs.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (PV+Zw)

86 Good morning, glad I got here in time.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:09 PM (iLKq8)

87 Why we're not putting the assholes behind Antifa's funding in a box is beyond me.

Scott Bessent said a few weeks ago that they were going to start doing that. I realize nothing in FedGov is as fast as we'd like, but now would be an excellent time.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 01:09 PM (QZThv)

88 Trump was taking advice from the most wicked authorities who. wanted to close the country

It was the ideal op to tie up a famously germophobic President, never mind someone old enough to still think experts know anything.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 01:11 PM (QZThv)

89 I don't even get the regular flu shot. I rarely get sick (and when I do, it's either 'just a bit under the weather' or several days too sick to leave the house). I shan't be taking this concoction and I'm currently unlikely to take the shingles vax when I get to that age either. I know the MMR and DPT _were_ relatively safe - a messed up kid like me survived 'em - but... are they still?

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 01:13 PM (aJQbY)

90 Why we're not putting the assholes behind Antifa's funding in a box is beyond me.

Why isn't the SPLC getting raided right now ? Why does NAMBLA still have a public address ? And on and on and on.

It was brought up, by all places, on Fox Sports Radio a few days ago. Not a new idea. But I was surprised shit as superficial and sports media figured it out.

Because Consequences just don't happen anymore. Because Standards were so subjective before that. That's why you see so many feral people - really feral, not just stupid shit like hat indoors. Shit like "lets cut out white girls eyes on the bus".

That's why you see Mr. Diversity driving 90 down a 55. Because back in the day, Johnny Law used to like to pull people over and show them the busted tail-light they didn't have until he made one.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:14 PM (P5MQi)

91 Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.
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He spent a lot of timing bragging about it in 2024 before he figured out why his crowds were booing him.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:16 PM (vSvIl)

92 And lets be real about this. Generations some of you revere rushed their kids in to be the first test subjects for the original polio vaccine.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 12:49 PM (P5MQi)

The polio vaccine was declared safe and effective in 1955, six years after the virus was successfully cultured in human tissue. We still had adults running things back then, and the thought of rushing out a product to cash in on public hysteria never even entered the minds of that generation..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 01:18 PM (nbLIj)

93 91 Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.

He f'ed up... He trusted them...
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Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:18 PM (dFjQQ)

94 71 ...Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.

He was publicly pissed that Big Pharma didn't announce them soon enough in the campaign cycle.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (P5MQi)

In hindsight - even though there were many voices both here and outside this blog that Trump was making a mistake - we could see that listening to authorities was a mistake.

That said, Trump and most of the rest of the world was acting on incomplete, imperfect information. As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy. The industrial world had, in effect, shut down. Supply chains were collapsing, and if there wasn't a way that the world could reasonably open again, secondary effects from a 'vaccine' would have been the least of our problems. The COVID shots (and I didn't take any of them) were the way the planet would have the confidence to open up again. For that alone, they were a success. Yes he made a mistake, but I don't think he has anything to be ashamed of. He never advocated forcing people to take it. It only had to exist.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:19 PM (DrlQb)

95 I wonder if this wondershot has been tested on approved subjects - the Fauci and Brix families, Members of Congress, FDA Advisors, and researchers from competing Big Pharma companies.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 01:19 PM (qx7Zg)

96 Thanks V mom and howdy it is what it is but the worst part…I’ve got 4 grandkids 10-16 yrs old and I want to live to see some grandbabbies!!

Posted by: kelly cereal lurker at June 21, 2026 01:19 PM (XRaX7)

97 Not ever getting a flu shot was my reason for not getting the Fake Vax

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:20 PM (Ia/+0)

98 "no safety signals"

Reminds me of a time I was working with vendors in China who were supposed to run regulatory testing on our device. It had been a while with no response from them, so I called them and asked if our device had passed testing.
"It hasn't failed", the guy on the other line said. Turned it it hadn't failed because it hadn't been tested. Bastards...LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (l3cgK)

99 By the way Happy Fathers day to all of you Dads out there....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (dFjQQ)

100 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.
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That's his excuse for Iran, too.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (vSvIl)

101 99 By the way Happy Fathers day to all of you Dads out there....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (dFjQQ)

Thank you. I guess my job as a Dad doesn't end until I join my wife. LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:22 PM (l3cgK)

102 Polio terrified parents around the world for centuries. It destroyed my grandmother's leg. Of course they got the vaxx for my mom when they had the chance. Polio ruins lives, and no small number of them.

COVID didn't reap children like stalks of wheat.

It was a nasty cold.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:22 PM (BI5O2)

103 Trump did push for the clot shot but I don’t believe he ever suggested people should be forced to take it against their will.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:23 PM (3cXW4)

104 100 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.
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That's his excuse for Iran, too.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (vSvIl)

When a patient has cancer, the best option is to kill and remove the cancer, if possible...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:23 PM (l3cgK)

105 Until mRNA vaccines are shown to be equal to or better than traditional vaccines, in particular for diseases that by definition cannot be eradicated or whose vaccine is only marginally effective, we should be very, very suspicious!
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Don't worry, they are mandating it for your dogs.
Share and share alike.

They/ the local tyrants, mandated vets to register and tax tag every local pet. We took ours out of the city for rabies shots.
Regulators want us to buy permits for everything and their clerks want to log it.

youtube.com/watch?v=eyCuIBDjehg

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:25 PM (iLKq8)

106 Trump and the GOP’s response to the China Virus was a) print trillions of dollars and b) rush an untested vaccine to market

Then Biden/Dems doubled down on the spending and forced everyone to take the vax.

It was a shit show all around.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (3cXW4)

107 100 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.
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That's his excuse for Iran, too.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (vSvIl)

And he's not wrong there, either. How soon we forget the problems that North Korea - tiny PRK - can cause the world for simply existing. Iran's actions over the last four months prove what damage they can do to the world simply by not being as isolated as PRK. I don't hear a single serious person say that there's nothing to worry about with the IRGC - even if they are saying that the threat isn't immanent.

We're not the policemen of the world, but there are some things that only we can do. Iran is a mistake that Reagan neglected to fix, and we've paid the price for that ever since. If we can fix it - and we can - there's no reason why we shouldn't try.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (DrlQb)

108 102 Polio terrified parents around the world for centuries. It destroyed my grandmother's leg. Of course they got the vaxx for my mom when they had the chance. Polio ruins lives, and no small number of them.

COVID didn't reap children like stalks of wheat.

It was a nasty cold.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:22 PM (BI5O2)

Children were basically safe from it unless they had weakened immune system or comorbidities. Folks like me and my wife, on the other hand, had comorbidities (and immunosuppression in my case), so more of an issue. I got the jab exactly 2x. I caught COVID and survived, already improving even before I got the monoclonal antibody treatment.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (l3cgK)

109 Trump fell for the Covid B.S. They did take advantage of his germaphobia. But at that, Trump thought he was cutting red tape so that high risk people could get the vaccine. It was after Nov 2020, with the Joe Bribeme admin, and the FNM who pushes commie narratives for free and other narratives when the price is right, that it became "everybody has to be vaccinated to save grandma, and/or end the masking and isolation rules ".

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (PV+Zw)

110 100 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.
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That's his excuse for Iran, too.

Posted by: Methos
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It's not an excuse it's a job.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:27 PM (iLKq8)

111 I have so many tied for first place for the most punchable face. Jonah Goldberg joined the list.

The entire CNN panel agreed JD Vance was very good at interviews and responding to tough (biased) questioning. All except fat ass , low intellect , thieving Goldberg. He actually called him a liar but of course not saying what he was lying about.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:27 PM (KC5Lt)

112 I lost a 59 year-old cousin to COVID. He was obese with diabeetus...so comorbidities.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:27 PM (l3cgK)

113 Iran is a mistake that Reagan neglected to fix, and we've paid the price for that ever since. If we can fix it - and we can - there's no reason why we shouldn't try.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Giving Iran’s thug dictator leaders $300B ain’t fixing shit.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (3cXW4)

114 Next time let's elect a Doctor for President.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (IY9No)

115 109 Trump fell for the Covid B.S.
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BS, he mentioned several alternatives but was jammed by bureaucrats, regulators, and turncoats.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (iLKq8)

116 I seem to recall that during the first couple months of the covid hysteria there wasn't a clear understanding of what the thing was.... bio-engineered death bug or what. So that certainly had an influence on anyone who didn't have the inside scoop on it. And I think Fauci and his co--conspirators knew what it was and hid it to push an agenda.

Whether that agenda was theirs alone, (I tend to think not) or foreign influenced (I think it was) didn't really matter if nobody outside a handful of people knew what covid really was.

Pardon(s) or not... Fauci and his co-conspirators need to hang. But they won't.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (jehhT)

117 114 Next time let's elect a Doctor for President.

Posted by: Case
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Dr. Hotez, I hear he's great.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (iLKq8)

118 Another way to look at it is this: people will always remember Jonas Salk as a hero of medicine. They will always remember Tony Fauci as a fucking butcher.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:30 PM (BI5O2)

119 He was publicly pissed that Big Pharma didn't announce them soon enough in the campaign cycle.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (P5MQi)

and that is how you came to vote for Biden and Kamala Harris. I am proud how you stick to your principles no matter what they turn out to be. Only a Hero man, only a Hero.

Never swerve, and never turn away from the consequences of your decision!

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (rbvCR)

120 Salk was a butcher, too, YD

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (rbvCR)

121 Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (jehhT)

My late January/early February, someone had performed a DNA/RNA analysis of the virus and found that it had features that could not have existed together in nature via intermixing or mutation...focus was especially on the furin cleavage site (no, not Riddick's ass). The report disappeared pretty fast. I think we now know why.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (l3cgK)

122 Salk had good press. Fauci has good press.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (iLKq8)

123 Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (DrlQb)

I meant that was his excuse for stopping the bombing.

In order to make a grand bargain to open the Strait of Hormuz.

Which is closed again. Because the Iranian regime is what it is no matter how much anyone wants to pretend that they can be bribed into civility.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (vSvIl)

124 117 114 Next time let's elect a Doctor for President.

Posted by: Case
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Dr. Hotez, I hear he's great.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (iLKq

As an engineer I didn't work out so well, did I?

Posted by: Zombie Herbert Hoover at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (l3cgK)

125
Which is closed again. Because the Iranian regime is what it is no matter how much anyone wants to pretend that they can be bribed into civility.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (vSvIl)

According to Centcom it is not closed...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (dFjQQ)

126 113 Iran is a mistake that Reagan neglected to fix, and we've paid the price for that ever since. If we can fix it - and we can - there's no reason why we shouldn't try.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Giving Iran’s thug dictator leaders $300B ain’t fixing shit.
Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (3cXW4)

Let's assume for a moment that Trump actually is giving Iran $300B. How exactly could they possibly spend it to their ends effectively? When Obama gave Iran money, their infrastructure was completely intact, so any money they received could be funneled for max effect. We've just obliterated their military capacity. Other than paying themselves, they won't be able to utilize it before Election Day in the US. Trump, I think, doesn't care about what they do in 2027. He cares about what they do in the next four months. If he can keep Congress after Tue 3 Nov, he's bombing Iran on Thu 5 Nov if they haven't come to the table to surrender by then.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (DrlQb)

127 115: But Trump believed that covid was dangerous. Hell he used emergency powers act to get manufactours to build ventilators. He messed up and trusted or mustly trusted Fauci and the scarf lady.

I am not a commiecrat, I am okay with a president who is human and makes mistakes. IMO covid was one of Trumps mistakes in his first term. He learned from it and has been much better at not accepting traitors suggested by the DC Rs as staff and so on.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:34 PM (PV+Zw)

128 Salk was a butcher, too, YD
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (rbvCR)

How so? I had no idea. His vaccine actually worked and didn't kill thousands of people like this piece of shit... what did he do? Unethical human trials or something?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:34 PM (BI5O2)

129 ...
If he can keep Congress after Tue 3 Nov, he's bombing Iran on Thu 5 Nov if they haven't come to the table to surrender by then.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (DrlQb)

Oh, we won't know the exact results for more than a month.

Posted by: Kalifornia at June 21, 2026 01:35 PM (l3cgK)

130 I'm going to wait and see what Steven Colbert says about the new vaccines before I make any decisions

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2026 01:35 PM (BZaww)

131 120 Salk was a butcher, too, YD
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (rbvCR)

Salk never won the Nobel Prize for Medicine. If ever there was a shoo-in for someone to get it, it would have been him. He was such a toxic personality that he had no peers that would vouch for him getting it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:35 PM (DrlQb)

132 I never thought I would agree with Trump 100% but I did and do know he is better right now than the alternatives would have been. The good has far outweighed the bad with Trump 2.0 and I'm not going to dump on him which only helps the Left. Also my disagreement with Iran is based on conjecture just as those who support it is also based on conjecture on how it will turn out.

I hope I'm wrong because no amount of criticism from me is going to change the outcome.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:36 PM (KC5Lt)

133 Trump fell for the Covid B.S. They did take advantage of his germaphobia. But at that, Trump thought he was cutting red tape so that high risk people could get the vaccine. It was after Nov 2020, with the Joe Bribeme admin, and the FNM who pushes commie narratives for free and other narratives when the price is right, that it became "everybody has to be vaccinated to save grandma, and/or end the masking and isolation rules ".

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (PV+Zw)

Because everything with the left is a gateway. Gay marriage became you bake that fucking cake, to sex changes for 10 year olds, and tranny hour at kindergarten. They do it with everything. Oh maybe a vax to help with a small % of people who might benefit , and maybe just 2 weeks to flatten the curve became everybody get the vax or its camps for you, and yeah, the kids will be out of school for a year, our manufacturing will be fucked, and no you can't be outside alone in a frigging desert without a mask.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 21, 2026 01:37 PM (snZF9)

134 There are terms of agreement that must be met.
When they meet a term they receive a portion of their money, that is being withheld, back.
If they VIOLATE Any portion of the agreement the deal is off and Trump, 'bombs them in the head'.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:37 PM (iLKq8)

135 That said, Trump and most of the rest of the world was acting on incomplete, imperfect information.

As do I. Every single damn day ending in Y. Just like everyone else.

Yet - if the calls I make turn out wrong ? Then I'm wrong. That's how it works.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:37 PM (P5MQi)

136 ...Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (P5MQi)

There is a claim out there that Putin is the hero here. He had produced the Sputnik vaxx, which was a standard old school vaccine.
The argument was that with the production of the COVID virus, and the "only effective mRNA treatment" the west could implement vaccine passports to end the spread through travel restrictions. This could have passed on to digital ID through WHO demands, and would have been transnational and inescapable.
There was a bit of that going on with the vaccine passports, up until Putin's government labs put out Sputnik and a low price that was taken up widely by the Global South at something like $10 USD per dose, and that broke the option for global adoption of the mRNA and the enforced vaccine passports under WHO which depended on that.

This is very troubling in its implications

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:38 PM (rbvCR)

137 > Giving Iran’s thug dictator leaders $300B ain’t fixing shit.
Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (3cXW4)
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We're not "giving" Iran or the mullahs anything. The $300B is frozen Iranian assets.

Sure, the US froze them, but they're originally Iran's funds. Or so I've been told.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:38 PM (jehhT)

138 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.

And here we go. Again. Just shut up Americans. I've got the World to think about.

Is that what you want to go with ? Sure about that ?

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:39 PM (P5MQi)

139 I don't think cash is changing hands unless Iran completes certain requirements of the deal and it's going out piecemeal based on requirements.

Trump wasn't opposed to Obama's deal except that Obama gave all the money up front .

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (KC5Lt)

140 Because everything with the left is a gateway. Gay marriage became you bake that fucking cake, to sex changes for 10 year olds, and tranny hour at kindergarten. They do it with everything. Oh maybe a vax to help with a small % of people who might benefit , and maybe just 2 weeks to flatten the curve became everybody get the vax or its camps for you, and yeah, the kids will be out of school for a year, our manufacturing will be fucked, and no you can't be outside alone in a frigging desert without a mask.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Put that in a frame and nail it on the wall.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (iLKq8)

141 137 > Giving Iran’s thug dictator leaders $300B ain’t fixing shit.
Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (3cXW4)
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We're not "giving" Iran or the mullahs anything. The $300B is frozen Iranian assets.

Sure, the US froze them, but they're originally Iran's funds. Or so I've been told.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:38 PM (jehhT)

Maybe we should do it Chinese style: Charge IRAN for the costs of our military and munitions used...deduct it from the frozen assets...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (l3cgK)

142 I have read that an early batch of the polio vaccine (probably Salk's?) had not sufficiently weakened the polio and the recipients actually contracted polio from the shot.

I believe to this day they still have a weakened but live polio vaccine as well as one with killed polio virus. And some docs or CDC etc encourage the weakened version to be used because it can confer some immunity to non-vaccinated kids. Never married and had kids but when I read that and was still of child bearing age I thought "well my pediatrician will be told to give my future kid the killed virus version"

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:41 PM (PV+Zw)

143 140 Because everything with the left is a gateway. Gay marriage became you bake that fucking cake, to sex changes for 10 year olds, and tranny hour at kindergarten. They do it with everything. Oh maybe a vax to help with a small % of people who might benefit , and maybe just 2 weeks to flatten the curve became everybody get the vax or its camps for you, and yeah, the kids will be out of school for a year, our manufacturing will be fucked, and no you can't be outside alone in a frigging desert without a mask.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Put that in a frame and nail it on the wall.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (iLKq

Yeah...
It would be like forcing everybody to get Monkey Pox vaccines and stay masked and 6 feet apart because gays can't help shoving their meat into pustulant asses.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:42 PM (l3cgK)

144 There's no good explanation for Trump going all in on that vaccine.

Perhaps he was party to the entire scheme, which I highly doubt, given that he was the main target of a big part of it.

Or, he was a credulous fool who got rooked by people who he of all people should have seen through instantly.

Neither is satisfactory.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:42 PM (BI5O2)

145 Because everything with the left is a gateway.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Damn it, you don't understand. Sure, Trump lived amongst the Left his entire life. But how could he possibly know they would do what they always do ? Besides - he had "imperfect information".

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:43 PM (P5MQi)

146 Salk never won the Nobel Prize for Medicine. If ever there was a shoo-in for someone to get it, it would have been him. He was such a toxic personality that he had no peers that would vouch for him getting it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:35 PM (DrlQb)

Cutter labs incident probably had something to do with that

The only circulating polio strain in the developed world is the one we use for vaccinations, by the way. An uncharitable man would suggest that Polio vaccination has turned into a way to inoculate the population from the possible injuries from the vaccination itself.

But I am charitable and I am perfectly willing to listen to any explanation that resolves that question

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:43 PM (rbvCR)

147 was taken up widely by the Global South at something like $10 USD per dose, and that broke the option for global adoption of the mRNA and the enforced vaccine passports under WHO which depended on that.

This is very troubling in its implications

Posted by: Kindltot
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Thought I was keeping up. What are the troubling implications?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:43 PM (iLKq8)

148 According to Centcom it is not closed...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (dFjQQ)

So what?

Iran declared it closed after their minions in Hezbollah fired on Israel, and they unsurprisingly fired back, citing language in the MoU that Trump foolishly agreed to about Lebanon. Current reporting is that no one crossed the strait overnight so as not to risk Iranian attack. So it's as closed as it has been at any point in the last three months.

I'd post a ZH link, but I can't get through to tinyurl for some reason.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (vSvIl)

149 Which is closed again. Because the Iranian regime is what it is no matter how much anyone wants to pretend that they can be bribed into civility.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (vSvIl)

They also want to pretend that they can close the straits at will in the face of the USN and the other gulf state's navies.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (rbvCR)

150 "imperfect information".

Posted by: Howdy

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (iLKq8)

151 We're not "giving" Iran or the mullahs anything. The $300B is frozen Iranian assets. Sure, the US froze them, but they're originally Iran's funds. Or so I've been told.

If I win $20 off you at the Poker Table ? And then I - for whatever reason - flip you a $20 chip ?

I just gave you $20. Because that money was mine the moment I took it.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (P5MQi)

152 My dog and I ran into a couple of bucks this morning hanging out next to the trail. They both had fresh-looking velvety antlers. It's unusual to see bucks hanging out together, but June is Pride Month I guess.

Posted by: $XOM Shareholder at June 21, 2026 01:45 PM (2ap+5)

153 Here's a simple question with an obvious answer:

Do you think the R & D departments in various Pharmacuetical companies are interested in outright cures, or do you think their focus is more on "medical maintenance" type treatments?

Keep in mind that actual all encompassing iINDUSTRIES have been created to address individual diseases and medical conditions. Industries require employees, who require stability and compensation. They have made a career out of finding a cure (which if found negates that career). So, medical maintenance (which provides ongoing revenue) is the focus. Cures would harm the bottom line.

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2026 01:46 PM (dIske)

154 How so? I had no idea. His vaccine actually worked and didn't kill thousands of people like this piece of shit... what did he do? Unethical human trials or something?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:34 PM (BI5O2)

Yes. The Cutter incident too. Also the standards to what polio is was changed when the vaccine came out so the stats showed a reduction in polio.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:46 PM (rbvCR)

155 138 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.

And here we go. Again. Just shut up Americans. I've got the World to think about.

Is that what you want to go with ? Sure about that ?
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:39 PM (P5MQi)

Don't put words in my mouth. The US is not an autarky. What happens in the world - especially with the world supply chains shut down by C-19 - affects us as well. Trump can certainly answer for what the 'vaccine' did to people here in the USA. What I wrote was if we couldn't have proper international trade flowing again, the consequences of that would have been more severe for everyone than people - even many people - getting secondary illnesses. The Great Toilet Paper Panic of 2020 would have been the least of our worries then. I stand by that assertion.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:47 PM (DrlQb)

156 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:42 PM (BI5O2)

Trump put the search for a vaccine on the fast track and when they delivered some quickly Trump of course wanted credit and thus he was a supporter. Of course it appears he ignored all the warnings of an mRNA vax and just hung his hat on ' I got a vax quicker than anyone in history! '

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:47 PM (KC5Lt)

157 The so called war is getting too crowded.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 01:48 PM (IY9No)

158 I just gave you $20. Because that money was mine the moment I took it.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (P5MQi)

Would you like to guess the link between excluding Russia from SWIFT and the development of the BRICS?

Why would India and China think they needed an alternate international settlement system when Obama was President?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:48 PM (rbvCR)

159 I'd post a ZH link, but I can't get through to tinyurl for some reason.

Posted by: Methos
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ZH brings a lot of information but one must consider its' source, they need clicks too. Otherwise it appears that you are particularly adverse to any sourced information. At best.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:49 PM (iLKq8)

160 Do you think the R & D departments in various Pharmacuetical companies are interested in outright cures, or do you think their focus is more on "medical maintenance" type treatments?

The only one interested in your individual health is you. Big Pharma wants to sell you a product - same as everyone else.

At least Big HVAC produces tangible results. You want to be cool or warm ? They sell a solution. They're more honest that Big Auto - which seems dead set on telling you how you should enjoy driving instead of just giving you want you want to drive.

Big Health (doctors and pharma) baffle me - with how older than me folks treat them. "My doctor said I have to do X".

Every thought about telling your doctor to go fuck himself ? He works for you, after all. He should not "make" you do anything. He's a consultant.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:49 PM (P5MQi)

161 Sure, the US froze them, but they're originally Iran's funds. Or so I've been told.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:38 PM (jehhT)

Maybe we should do it Chinese style: Charge IRAN for the costs of our military and munitions used...deduct it from the frozen assets...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (l3cgK)

It wasn't that long ago that Bessent was proposing to use the funds to repair damage down by Iran's "drone everybody" approach to the war.

In any case it's funds that Iran didn't have three weeks ago that are potentially being given.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:50 PM (vSvIl)

162 Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:47 PM (DrlQ

Pick your poison. I'd rather the US say okay we have shortages . We are going to start manufacturing these products ourself though we may have short term pain. We're Americans.Suck it up and get to work. (. Also American capitalists there is money to be made)

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:50 PM (KC5Lt)

163 Thought I was keeping up. What are the troubling implications?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:43 PM (iLKq

Maybe that Putin is more dimensioned that some Evil Hun meme generated for WWI?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (rbvCR)

164 Why would India and China think they needed an alternate international settlement system when Obama was President?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:48 PM (rbvCR)

I know that answer. Because "The Dollar" is just fiat currency now as well. No better than anyone else.

On this - I get it. If I'm "not" in the United States ? Wouldn't want to trade on the dollar globally either. Its not like we're an honest broker of currency anymore. We are not.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (P5MQi)

165 Which is closed again. Because the Iranian regime is what it is no matter how much anyone wants to pretend that they can be bribed into civility.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (vSvIl)

SoH is open and traffic is freely passing. The IRGC is just throwing more bullshit into the air.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (g8Ew8)

166 According to Grok, she is compromised already and should have recused herself.

"Dr. Hana El Sahly recused herself from reviewing COVID-19 vaccines for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in September 2020 due to a potential conflict of interest. As the chairwoman of the FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, she stepped aside because she was simultaneously serving as a lead investigator for Moderna Inc.'s late-stage COVID-19 vaccine trial."

The grift goes on...

Posted by: SL at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (aFtqG)

167 Dr. Hana El Sahly. A muslim? Reason enough right there to distrust her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 01:53 PM (1z8ji)

168 > There's no good explanation for Trump going all in on that vaccine.
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It was speculated at the time that Trump was a bit of a germaphobe and Fauci played to that weakness. Probably told Trump a "worst case scenario" that was totally fictitious. And because Fauci was in bed with the various US intelligence agencies, those entities confirmed what the CDC and Fauci was telling him.

"Speculation" But to a certain degree, makes sense.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:53 PM (jehhT)

169 And the thing that pisses me off is it seems we still haven't learned our lesson and products that are a national security issue still aren't made here or have a supply until it can be.

Screw Just In Time Inventory

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:53 PM (KC5Lt)

170 162 Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:47 PM (DrlQ

Pick your poison. I'd rather the US say okay we have shortages . We are going to start manufacturing these products ourself though we may have short term pain. We're Americans.Suck it up and get to work. (. Also American capitalists there is money to be made)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:50 PM (KC5Lt)

That is an absolutely fair critique of my argument. And I think that in the longer term, you're right - a move towards self-sufficiency helps us greatly. Trump's reshoring efforts are one way to get us there. What I would say is that it's one thing to run on that goal and get people to vote for it, and another thing to back them into a corner in the middle of a crisis - and the 2020 election - and push that policy. Reasonable people can disagree. I don't think that Trump 1.0 had the ability - and certainly not the political capital in 2020 - to do what you suggest back then.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (DrlQb)

171 Screw Just In Time Inventory

You are really going to be pissed when you discover Six Sigma.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (P5MQi)

172 On this - I get it. If I'm "not" in the United States ? Wouldn't want to trade on the dollar globally either. Its not like we're an honest broker of currency anymore. We are not.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (P5MQi)

Which is why you are supporting Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez. I celebrate your dedication to an economic concept, even though it has failed continually.
I am certain that the City of London banks appreciate your support.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (rbvCR)

173 Going over to my parents little later, my sister is meeting us with dinner

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:56 PM (Ia/+0)

174 ZH brings a lot of information but one must consider its' source, they need clicks too. Otherwise it appears that you are particularly adverse to any sourced information. At best.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:49 PM (iLKq

The source was a site that monitor the transponders of traffic through the strait, and there wasn't any overnight.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:56 PM (vSvIl)

175 I don't think that Trump 1.0 had the ability - and certainly not the political capital in 2020 - to do what you suggest back then.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (DrlQb)

And my kid - at 12 - didn't have the ability to drive a car. But if he took the keys and knocked the shit out of the fenders ?

"Well ... he's learning" is not an excuse. Trump wasn't drafted into the job. He wanted the job. All the heat for all the mistakes is justified.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:57 PM (P5MQi)

176 Posted by: SL at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (aFtqG)

They bypassed the vaccine review board and authorized its emergency use. The majority on that board would not have approved it thus the reason they were bypassed.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:57 PM (KC5Lt)

177 Sanford in court:
Deys enuf niggers in here to make a Tarzan movie!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 01:58 PM (Kt19C)

178 If I would have been President, and the likes of career medical authorities told me to do stuff, good chance i would do what they suggest

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:58 PM (Ia/+0)

179 What I wrote was if we couldn't have proper international trade flowing again, the consequences of that would have been more severe for everyone than people - even many people - getting secondary illnesses
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Can we put a pin in that thought for when we celebrate America's "independence" in two weeks?

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:59 PM (vSvIl)

180 Well ... he's learning" is not an excuse. Trump wasn't drafted into the job. He wanted the job. All the heat for all the mistakes is justified.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:57 PM (P5MQi)

I'm sure you could have done so much better under the same circumstances.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 01:59 PM (g8Ew8)

181 If I would have been President, and the likes of career medical authorities told me to do stuff, good chance i would do what they suggest
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:58 PM (Ia/+0)

Not me.

Government scientists are proven liars, and they were long before this particular shitshow. They lie the paint off the walls. No sale.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 02:00 PM (BI5O2)

182 I asked my doc about getting a Tetantus booster. He said it's not needed. Only immigrants that never had one need it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2026 02:00 PM (qFwJc)

183 It baffels me that few see how roped in Trump was.
That anything he did would have been used against him.

The unused hospital ship in NY.
The recommendation for, brain fog on the anti-virans he was given) remember he caught Covid early on was given treatment and recommended it highly.
It was pulled from use.
They gagged Trump and beat him up on the whole thing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:00 PM (iLKq8)

184 Which is why you are supporting Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (rbvCR)

And that's twice. What clever point do you think you are making ? The "well, its my guy so he's perfect" argument ?

Voted Trump three times. Pretty sure I picked the winner all three. But he fucked up Covid.

And he's fucking up Iran in spades. If he was eligible again ? I'd go Heavy D or Vance for starters.

The old man has passed his expiration date.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:00 PM (P5MQi)

185 Screw Just In Time Inventory
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:53 PM (KC5Lt)

it is an attempt to create efficiency in the supply chain, and creates fragility as well.
It is also created by tax authorities, where any stock you have on hand is actually taxed, just like the capital equipment and the office furniture. There is also the problem that Just In Time also means companies are running on borrowed money, and the banks don't like to see extra inventory and the financials hate paying interest on money borrowed to buy stock that just sits around. That will have to be resolved before we get much more reserves built up in manufacturers.

I worked for a welding shop that did manufacturing on the side, and the boss was always on me for keeping too much hardware on hand, and of course if we were out of fasteners we couldn't get equipment out the door and get paid for it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:01 PM (rbvCR)

186 I would have been President, and the likes of career medical authorities told me to do stuff, good chance i would do what they suggest
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:58 PM (Ia/+0)

If one would have taken the time to review the history of those experts. Especially the British guy who came up with the Covid mortality model, you would have seen so many red flags you would have dismissed them.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 02:01 PM (KC5Lt)

187 I'm sure you could have done so much better under the same circumstances.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 01:59 PM (g8Ew

Most of us could. A simple "No - that's bullshit" would have sufficed.

Many - in real time - were calling bullshit every day. Including here.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (P5MQi)

188 BEER CALL NOOD
or 1ST WORLD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (Ia/+0)

189 They created a disease, they lied about its origins, they used it to destroy our civil liberties and manipulate the country to be more compliant, and perhaps worst of all, they sabotaged possible treatments to favor their dangerous and expensive vaccine and treatments.
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And years later, still no hangings.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (6h45X)

190 Multi-Clonal Antibodies is the treatment Trump received.
Recommended it for everyone, said, 'it made me feel ten years younger'. They shut him down.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (iLKq8)

191 I'm sure Dr.Jill could solve all our problems.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (IY9No)

192 Algae antifa should be charged with bio terrorism
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:55 PM (hLhMb)

Bind them hand and foot, and throw them face-down into the Reflecting Pool so they can reflect upon their sins. Until they drown.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 02:03 PM (1z8ji)

193 Screw Just In Time Inventory

You are really going to be pissed when you discover Six Sigma.
Posted by: Howdy
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You people aren't Team players. It's as if you are opposed to Quality Circles.

Posted by: W. Edwards Deming at June 21, 2026 02:04 PM (XeU6L)

194 Government scientists are proven liars, and they were long before this particular shitshow. They lie the paint off the walls. No sale.

Its like the Tuskegee Experiments never happened.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:04 PM (P5MQi)

195 Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:01 PM (rbvCR

I see JITI as all or nothing solution. It concentrates too much on the present without any consideration of the consequences of the future. It's a solution built on a model . Models will disappoint you in the real world.

I do think there is a compromise and tax solution.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (KC5Lt)

196 And he's fucking up Iran in spades. If he was eligible again ? I'd go Heavy D or Vance for starters.
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That's an interesting statement, given that what reporting I've seen is that Vance is leading the weak on Iran side of the administration (and his public statements seem to support that).

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (vSvIl)

197 >>>And he's fucking up Iran in spades. If he was eligible again ? I'd go Heavy D or Vance for starters.

You are an underappreciated genius for international affairs on creating peace. Why are you here, and not banging on Rubio's door?

Certainly you are not here to just make people fight with you, since that would prove you a hypocrite.

(secret to arguments versus fights: arguments are for exploring options to discover solutions to conflict. Fights are to hurt the opponent so badly they run away or give up)

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:06 PM (rbvCR)

198 You people aren't Team players. It's as if you are opposed to Quality Circles.
Posted by: W. Edwards Deming at June 21, 2026 02:04 PM (XeU6L)

Who-ever you are - and I hope you sock off - you get it.

I'm 54. There's a manufacturing fad about once a decade. The Six Sigma shit was awful because Excel happened about the same time.

All these stupid fucking managers ... measuring shit wrong and then putting that dumb data into spreadsheets. Then buying Statistical Methods books and trying to apply that.

Get this ... real processes don't follow a Bell Curve. Not one bit.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:07 PM (P5MQi)

199 A Federal pardon doesn’t apply to state crimes. Get Fauci (and Birx, and a slew of others) at the state level, the way NYS did Trump.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:07 PM (ZVgZ4)

200 Have we forgotten Mrs. Fauci (aka Christine Grady)

"Christine Grady is the chief of the Department of Bioethics at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and she is married to Dr. Anthony Fauci, who is a prominent immunologist and former head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2026 02:08 PM (XeU6L)

201 That's an interesting statement, given that what reporting I've seen is that Vance is leading the weak on Iran side of the administration (and his public statements seem to support that).
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (vSvIl)

The best thing about Trump / Vance is that Trump is the bad cop. But I'm convinced that's not a choreographed move. Trump is just an attention-hungry old man amplifying his attention-hungry as he gets more old.

I think Vance is effective. We'll see if he can shake off the Trump in '28.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:09 PM (P5MQi)

202 Interesting post CBD.

A lot could be said on the topic, some of which might be illuminating. Probably would require an in-person conversation after a good meal, with an adult beverage in hand watching a mountain sunset.. Not so much on a forum such as this. So I shall defer.

I appreciate your efforts on this topic the last few years..

Cheers!

Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 21, 2026 02:10 PM (I0N4X)

203 You are an underappreciated genius for international affairs on creating peace. Why are you here, and not banging on Rubio's door?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:06 PM (rbvCR)

And here we go. Have you ever built a car - from raw metal shapes - in your garage ? I haven't.

So then I can't comment on the difference between a Yugo and a BMW. Or note the flaws in each. After all - I've never built a sedan from the ground up.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:11 PM (P5MQi)

204 A lot of natural processes do follow a roughly Gaussian curve (not so much for small numbers: that’s when to use Student’s t-distribution) that’s why it’s used so much. But not all distributions are Gaussian. Use the statistics that fit the case.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:12 PM (ZVgZ4)

205 A lot of natural processes do follow a roughly Gaussian curve (not so much for small numbers: that’s when to use Student’s t-distribution) that’s why it’s used so much. But not all distributions are Gaussian. Use the statistics that fit the case.

Manufacturing processes do not at all. Not one bit. Because they are not random in the slightest.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:13 PM (P5MQi)

206 And years later, still no hangings.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (6h45X)

That’s why they are trying to do it again.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:15 PM (ZVgZ4)

207 202 Interesting post CBD.

A lot could be said on the topic, some of which might be illuminating. Probably would require an in-person conversation after a good meal, with an adult beverage in hand watching a mountain sunset.. Not so much on a forum such as this. So I shall defer.

I appreciate your efforts on this topic the last few years..

Cheers!
Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 21, 2026 02:10 PM (I0N4X)

Too true, Muldoon. I really need to get myself to a MoMe soon.

Thanks, CBD!

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 02:15 PM (DrlQb)

208 I think we are talking at cross purposes and mean different things by words like errors. If you are machining something to a certain length, you will find with more precise instruments, and more accurate measurements, that the deviations from that length do follow well known distributions. Perhaps by “error” you mean they forgot to galvanize the part after cutting it or the like. We would not be using the word “error” in the same way.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:24 PM (ZVgZ4)

209 As a septuagenarian, I am urged by my doc to get the RSV vaccine, said to reduce the chances of a hospital stay with a lung infection. I am highly skeptical of any vax after the COVID fraud, and he knows I will never take any shot for that ailment. But I did look into the RSV.

I found that there are three on offer, GSX makes a traditional type RSV vax, as does Pfizer [spit], but lo! behold Moderna's RSV vax, in all its mRNA glory. No way.

So maybe the GSK one? I look into the efficacy of these vaccines and learn that in one year after the shot, chances of hospitalization appear to be about 4 in 10, so roughly 60% effective; after two years, odds drop to 6 in 10, or 40% effective. No boosters recommended.

I am not sure this is worth whatever risks there may be. The blurbs of course only refer to soreness around the injection site, but who knows? Think I'll take my chances for the time being.

YMMD

Posted by: Fritz at June 21, 2026 02:28 PM (J7jo9)

210 GSX = GSK

Posted by: Fritz at June 21, 2026 02:30 PM (J7jo9)

211 Perhaps by “error” you mean they forgot to galvanize the part after cutting it or the like. We would not be using the word “error” in the same way.

We are using it in the EXACT same way. I understand all that. And as such, I'm telling you why Six Sigma ... and a lot of other probability and statistics as applied to industry ... is simply fucking wrong.

The same as AI is the next fad. But you have to have lived through some of these fads to understand the next one.

The "deviations" ... and what you are talking about regarding measurements that fine ... are noise. Because no industrial instrument - no instruments, really - are absolute. They all have error.

And nobody is recording those errors to the resolution which is random. But this is great - because we're back to one of the arguments I always had with the "science crowd" here.

All real life data is anecdotal.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:31 PM (P5MQi)

212 I am going to go out on a limb here. I asked an A.I. about her faith. Opaque would best describe the reply. Then, I asked about her hubby, because no self respecting Muslim would marry an infidel... So, the Doctor's husband, Dr. Fady Joudah:

Cultural Heritage: He is the son of Palestinian refugee parents and grew up in Libya and Saudi Arabia.
Literary Work: His poetry and translations deeply engage with Islamic narratives, Sufi mysticism, and the Quran. He frequently references Islamic concepts (such as Barzakh and the story of the Prophet Muhammad in the cave) and cites Islamic scholars like Ibn Arabi.
Self-Identification in Context: In interviews, he discusses the experience of being an Arab Muslim in the West and the lack of Islamic narratives in Western literature, often speaking from an insider's perspective on these traditions.
Evidence regarding Dr. Hana El Sahly:

Background: She was born in Lebanon and holds a name of Arabic origin.
Public Stance: Unlike her husband, her public profile is strictly focused on science and medicine. She has not publicly discussed her faith or religious identity in interviews or professional biographies.

Draw,your own conclusions.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at June 21, 2026 02:37 PM (S/pXD)

213 It seems like they are going to keep giving people clot shots until they finally get one that has a high enough mortality rate

Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2026 02:57 PM (VuzyX)

214 Under severe family pressure, I yielded to getting the COVID shot in March 2020, figuring it was like flu shots: maybe some good, but what the hell. What I learned over the three months following that scares the death out of me, and I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with mRNA technology whatsoever.

Alarmingly, among my nieces and nephews - all of whom I think are getting their regular COVID boosters - they are coming down with cancer diagnoses. I blame it mRNA.

When I first read that they were looking into mRNA-type flu shots, I ceased getting the thing, and never will again. My sawbones presses me to get the RSV shot, but that too is getting the mRNA look-at. No way, no how, not ever. Period.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 21, 2026 04:13 PM (bufu1)

215 No, and all the people pushing them should be investigated to see who's paying. Pharma wants mRNA so bad they cant stand still like a child that has to pee, because its so cheap to make and they can make a fortune not selling it cheap.

Posted by: Sixiron at June 21, 2026 08:53 PM (UMeAV)

216 A commenter mentioned an outrageously sneering, Trump-bashing leftist propaganda site--link to which didn't work. The site is called "DC Urban Moms" and here's the link to the most offensive post (note the link ends in "mom," singular:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/2026/06/19/update061926

Example: "It also creates a difficult situation for cult leader, convicted felon, and failed President Donald Trump."

You have to see this stuff to believe it. I really think it's worth a minute of your time to see how much these people spew hate for Trump--and by extension, for all of us.

Posted by: sf at June 21, 2026 09:54 PM (9RZd3)

217 121 By late January someone had [gene-sequenced] the virus and found it had features that could not have [occurred by any type of natural mutation/evolution... --Jim in Kalifornia

Morons and 'ettes, Jim is right, and the moment has arrived for the plot to be revealed: the first confirmed case of duh Chyna virus in the U.S. was 29 Jan 2020. By chance, two DAYS later I stumbled on a tech paper showing the gene sequence of the spike protein. It clearly showed four genes not in the closest bat virus, and which had obviously been inserted. Everything is explained in my paper: https://tinyurl.com/3y79t3f8

It's easy reading. The surprising thing is that all coronaviruses have long-since been sequenced, so the comparison was easy.

Posted by: sf at June 21, 2026 10:42 PM (9RZd3)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 6-21-2026 [Sabrina Chase]

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Welcome to the Book Thread, Guest Poster edition! I will be your host as we explore all sorts of book-related topics. All usual Book Thread rules are incorporated by reference (pets, beverage, clothing covering the lower limbs, etc.) with the special Sabrina Chase exemption for those stylish persons preferring kilts. Now let us proceed to today's topic, which is ...

Restoring Lost Books

A book-lover's life has many sorrows. Authors that won't write the next book in the series (as if death is any excuse!), insufficient time/money/cats to read as much as you want, and injuries caused by insufficiently secured TBR piles. But the cruelest cut of all is to know of a book by name, by reference, by a few scattered quotations, that no longer exists. War, fire, ideological purges, dogs ... many things can make books disappear especially from the times before printing. Hand-copied books were, of necessity, few in number. We have the Illiad and the Odyssey, but there are four other tales from that epic that no longer exist. Several plays by Euripides are missing. A treatise on comedy by Aristotle (we have the one on tragedy). Most of the poetry of Sappho is only known from fragments.

However! There is a bright spot in the darkness. Advances in science and in archaeology mean that some books previously thought too damaged to ever be read again can be brought back to life, and a stellar example of this are the carbonized papyrus scrolls from the Villa of the Papyrii in Herculaneum, caught in the explosion of Vesuvius that also toasted Pompeii. The image at the top is one of the scrolls in question, pretty much a charcoal briquette to look at but with clever scanning we can now actually start reading it. There are over a thousand scrolls from this villa, thought to belong to the father-in-law of Julius Caesar. The one scroll they have deciphered using this technique is a book of Epicurian philosophy, not one of the lost books, but with a thousand more to examine the chances are good a previously lost book will be in the pile somewhere!

This was all made possible by a contest funded by donations. Each success brings a monetary reward to the discoverer, and more goals remain. It sounds like the foundation has access to 300 of the carbonized scrolls, so something good is likely to appear as the contest progresses.

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Besides scoping out burned scrolls, another way of recovering lost books is palimpsests. In the Middle Ages when books were written on vellum, thin prepared hide, it was so expensive that ancient books deemed no longer of any use by medieval monks would be scraped so the surface could be reused. And with clever scanning techniques (again... ) the original text can now be recovered. One famous manuscript known as the Archimedes Palimpsest had two missing texts from Archimedes, the Method of Mechanical Theorems and Stomachion, both mathematical treatises; a commentary on Aristotle with no other copy; and speeches by Hyperides, a famous ancient Athenian orator.

And when printed books took the world by storm, many printers had no use for the large, heavy parchment books with the hand-lettered pages and cut them up for use as binding shims, filler, and cover boards. Several documents and scraps of text have been rescued from old print book bindings. Sometimes books were "bound in" with other texts and in the days before card catalogs or really any kind of organization system beyond size, nobody would know unless they opened the whole thing and read carefully.

So take note of all the trials and tribulations, and don't let this happen to future generations. Preserve the books, even (and especially) the electronic ones! As we say in the software bizness, one backup is no backup. Copy early and often (and for the love of Ghu CHECK THAT THE BACKUP WORKS!)

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1 Is that a roast?

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2026 08:58 AM (Q+gd/)

2 Booken morgen Sabrina!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 09:00 AM (znREB)

3 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:00 AM (Ia/+0)

4 That's one of the carbonized scrolls.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:01 AM (78a2H)

5 Good morning, happy fathers day and welcome to the summer solstice (Phew! Busy day) to my fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 09:03 AM (yTvNw)

6 The one scroll they have deciphered using this technique is a book of Epicurian philosophy,
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...extolling the merits of putting carrots in Pompeiian chili?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:03 AM (gnNyN)

7 That scroll is in a condition a bookseller might call "slightly foxed". Volcanoes and books don't get along.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 09:04 AM (ee9bx)

8 Is that a roast?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2026 08:58 AM (Q+gd/)
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It's a cook book!

Yay book thread!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:04 AM (ZOv7s)

9 That's one of the carbonized scrolls.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:01 AM (78a2H)

Or the returned manuscript of a new writer after being read by a literary agent.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 09:05 AM (1Ff7Z)

10 @6 --

Pineapple on pizza.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:05 AM (gQhJN)

11 Two is one and one is done.

Posted by: Reliability experts everywhere at June 21, 2026 09:05 AM (eDbqp)

12 That scroll is in a condition a bookseller might call "slightly foxed". Volcanoes and books don't get along.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 09:04 AM (ee9bx)
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I read a book this week that flat out told me to burn it before I read it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:06 AM (gnNyN)

13 The one scroll they have deciphered using this technique is a book of Epicurian philosophy,
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...extolling the merits of putting carrots in Pompeiian chili?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:03 AM (gnNyN


She said Epicurean, not barbarian.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2026 09:06 AM (jGGMD)

14 https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/me this weekend
https://tinyurl.com/yjk49xy5

( maybe a good book thread picture)

As for me, trying to read Carl v. Clauswitz's On War
It really is a serious stone read, and hard to read if not wide awake and concentrate

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:06 AM (Ia/+0)

15 Among the lost books of history, I wonder about the "as for the rest of So-so's acts, they are written in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel" referred to in Kings in the Old Testament

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 09:07 AM (znREB)

16 As the writer asked the agent, "Should I put more fire in my poetry?"

"No!" said the agent. "Do the opposite!"

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:08 AM (gQhJN)

17 Good Sunday morning, horde, and Happy Father's Day to the dads.

Safe travels for all the NoVaMoMe attendees.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 09:09 AM (h7ZuX)

18 It's incredible that anything can be gleaned from those charred scrolls!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 09:09 AM (h7ZuX)

19
"But there are also many other things which Jesus did, which, if they were written in detail, I expect that even the world itself would not contain the books that would be written."

Posted by: John 21:25 at June 21, 2026 09:10 AM (eDbqp)

20 I have to look it up, but I believe last week two of St. Augustine's lost homilies were found bound into a book in Poland. The discoverer wasn't looking for them, just doing research and thought: "Wait a minute, what's on the back page?" or something.

I am reading St. Augustine's City of God and he makes tons of references to other works, many of which are lost to us. This is why I have so little patience with people who try to challenge ancient histories. We have but a fraction of the sources they had, and their works would not have been preserved if their contemporaries considered it false rubbish.

The fact that they survived - often in quantity - tells us that the people closest to events valued it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:10 AM (ZOv7s)

21 It's incredible that anything can be gleaned from those charred scrolls!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 09:09 AM (h7ZuX)
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Lasers...what can't they do?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:10 AM (gnNyN)

22 With the red stripes, that scroll looks as if mystic energy is breaking out.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:11 AM (gQhJN)

23 Happy Fathers Day horde dads!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 09:11 AM (znREB)

24 In other reading news, Mao's Army Goes to Sea finally got interesting, but of course now the author had to dull it up again with pointless repetition.

It could have been a crackling 20-page monograph, but I guess he had to pad it out to make a book. Sigh.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:12 AM (ZOv7s)

25 With the red stripes, that scroll looks as if mystic energy is breaking out.
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:11 AM (gQhJN)
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Whatever you do, don't read it aloud!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:13 AM (ZOv7s)

26 Donald Hamilton could write in the third person past tense. As evidence I submit his early novel "Night Walker," which came out while Matt Helm was still a citizen.

A Navy lieutenant, recalled to active duty and not happy about it, thumbs a ride to Norfolk with a guy who gripes about his dismissal from government because he's suspected of Red sympathies. Through circumstances not fully disclosed, the officer wakes up in a hospital bed, badly banged up, with his face covered in bandages. The hospital staff calls him by the driver's name -- because, he's told, he was wearing the driver's clothes and carrying the driver's identification. No photo IDs in those days.

The only other person who knows the truth is the driver's estranged wife. She takes the lieutenant out of the hospital to her home on Chesapeake Bay, where she tells him that her husband had tried to kill him in a phony car crash and disappear, but something went wrong and Hubby died instead.

It all sounds straightforward, yet I'm skeptical. We've only been told through other characters what is going on; we have yet to see anything for ourselves. And, after all, this is Donald Hamilton.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:13 AM (gQhJN)

27
Finally, the Book Thread includes-

the Fossilized Foreleg of a Unicorn to kick things off.


Cn we have the Piltdown Man pay us a visit next week?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (iJfKG)

28 Most of the poetry of Sappho is only known from old greek homos

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (Kt19C)

29 Many thanks to whomever recommended Open Season by CJ Box. Very enjoyable audio book and I appreciate the recommendation to start with it as it is the beginning book of the Joe Pickett series.
I plan to listen to others as well.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (eDbqp)

30 Fascinating video on the scrolls. Seale says that ironically, had they not been carbonized by the fires, they wouldn't have survived; at least now they have these charred remains.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (kpS4V)

31 I don't know if I've already mentioned, but I've been reading _Hard to be a God_ by the Strugatsky brothers. They were Russian SF writers working under the Soviet government, and at least some reviewers have tried to explain all their work as various kinds of allegory of life under the Communists. I'm not sure that's true.

This one is obviously a huge influence on Iain Banks, about envoys from an advanced society (in this case Earth, and yes, it's explicitly after the triumph of Communism) living secretly in a more primitive society on another planet. They're all humans, because this was the 1960s and the Strugatskys were Europeans. (I don't know why Euro writers were so allergic for so long to realistically alien aliens.)

There's an afterword in my edition about the writing of the book, and in some ways it's more interesting than the novel as it gives a glimpse into the realities of writing under Communism. They had to delete any references to FTL travel because the Nazis had once denounced Einstein, therefore FTL in fiction was a sign of fascism. You can't make this stuff up!

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (78a2H)

32 the Piltdown Doughboy

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 09:16 AM (Kt19C)

33 I'm currently reading Seveneves by Neal Stephenson. The world is going to end in two years. Humans have until then to figure out how to launch a life raft that will support the human race for the next 5000 years until Earth may be able to support life again.

One of the questions they do try to address is deciding what knowledge should be preserved for the long term. Not just the scientific technical skills they need, but the culture as well.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:16 AM (gnNyN)

34 In recognition of our upcoming birthday, I've begun to read Rick Atkinson's Revolutionary War trilogy beginning with The British Are Coming. I quite enjoyed his WWII in Europe trilogy but so far I'm enjoying this even more.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:17 AM (ndZc7)

35 27
Finally, the Book Thread includes-

the Fossilized Foreleg of a Unicorn to kick things off.

Cn we have the Piltdown Man pay us a visit next week?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM
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Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: Australopithecus at June 21, 2026 09:17 AM (eDbqp)

36 This is why I have so little patience with people who try to challenge ancient histories.

Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.
John Malalas, Historia Augusta, Movses Khorenatsi, Ctesias' Persica...

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 09:18 AM (gKWVE)

37 One of the questions they do try to address is deciding what knowledge should be preserved for the long term. Not just the scientific technical skills they need, but the culture as well.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Well, I hope they include the Limerick.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:19 AM (ndZc7)

38 >Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 09:18 AM
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Obama's college transcripts at June 21, 2026 09:20 AM (eDbqp)

39 Thanks to Sabrina for the thread. I've been following the story about the scrolls from the Vesuvius toasting as information becomes available. Fascinating and provides a bit of hope that lost materials may be rediscovered.

I agree about multiple back ups of digital materials but still have no confidence in them. Too many ways to go wrong. Lack of power. Lack of software and machines to read them. (How many computer files are still usable after only a few decades?) Deteriorating storage media.

I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 09:21 AM (yTvNw)

40 Morning, bookish folken,

This week I finished S.M. Stirling's Conan novel, Blood of the Serpent. It was written to lead into Howard's own short story, "Red Nails," and explain how Conan came to know and be following Valeria of the Red Brotherhood. The Howard story starts with him following her into a jungle.

Stirling's pastiche is quite readable and displays Conan as not only a tough and expert swordsman, but a smart leader as well. Howard's story is fast-moving and colorful (as is Stirling's), though the tendency to purple prose and said-isms ("We're both penniless vagabonds," [Conan] grinned hardily) is a little jarring. All said, a good read.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:22 AM (wzUl9)

41 34 In recognition of our upcoming birthday, I've begun to read Rick Atkinson's Revolutionary War trilogy beginning with The British Are Coming. I quite enjoyed his WWII in Europe trilogy but so far I'm enjoying this even more.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:17 AM (ndZc7)
I read that as Rick Astley. Moar coffee.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 09:23 AM (LHPAg)

42 >>> 20 I have to look it up, but I believe last week two of St. Augustine's lost homilies were found bound into a book in Poland. The discoverer wasn't looking for them, just doing research and thought: "Wait a minute, what's on the back page?" or something.

I am reading St. Augustine's City of God and he makes tons of references to other works, many of which are lost to us. This is why I have so little patience with people who try to challenge ancient histories. We have but a fraction of the sources they had, and their works would not have been preserved if their contemporaries considered it false rubbish.

The fact that they survived - often in quantity - tells us that the people closest to events valued it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:10 AM (ZOv7s)

But we totes have a complete picture of history, not only from books but archaeological findings as well.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:23 AM (R+iUD)

43 AWI think you will enjoy that

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:24 AM (Ia/+0)

44 I purchased on impulse the four-volume set "The History of Middle Earth" by Christopher Tolkien (a handsome collection) and am beginning at the beginning with "The Return of the Shadow". I have low expectations but missed visiting Middle Earth.

It's so interesting to read the various drafts of a story whose proper finished form I feel in my bones. I knew Tolkien had a history sketched out but was surprised at how much the tale grew in the telling:

"I met a lot of things on the way that astonished me. Tom Bombadil I knew already; but I had never been to Bree. Strider sitting in the corner at the inn was a shock, and I had no more idea who he was than had Frodo. The Mines of Moria had been a mere name; and of Lothlórien no word had reached my mortal ears till I came there. Far away I knew there were the Horse-lords on the confines of an ancient Kingdom of Men, but Fangorn Forest was an unforeseen adventure. I had never heard of the House of Eorl nor of the Stewards of Gondor. Most disquieting of all, Saruman had never been revealed to me, and I was as mystified as Frodo at Gandalf's failure to appear on September 22."
-- J.R.R. Tolkien, in a letter to W.H. Auden

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 09:24 AM (kpS4V)

45 Sometimes it funny watching modern authors try to deal with 'the role of women in a fantasy world.' I read a story recently that had the following incidents, all in a single chapter. First, we saw a woman as a General (The role was closer to a Captain of the Guard, she was the first person to make contact with trespassing ships) and nobody in the story batted an eye at this. Next, we had a fully adult woman scream in helpless panic because her employer was getting a bit handsy with her. And lastly, the General woke up in a guy's bed, and immediately called him 'husband.' A one night stand (featuring a very drunk guy) justified a shotgun-marriage, and again, no one in the setting saw this as anything out of the ordinary.

So, what am I to take away from this? Are women fierce and independent? Or fragile and in need to constant protection? Without some additional explanation, it's hard to reconcile some of these reactions...

And that story was written by a woman...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 21, 2026 09:25 AM (3v7ra)

46 I am especially disappointed in Patrick O'Brian, of the Aubrey and Maturin books, and Sue Grafton, of the Kinsey Milhone series. They left me wanting more. God rest their talented and accomplished souls.

Posted by: huerfano at June 21, 2026 09:25 AM (VJX5o)

47 I'm hoping the Herculaneum scrolls include a copy of Claudius's work on the Etruscans. We know so little about them even now, and just one Roman-era work would be a revolution.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:26 AM (78a2H)

48 Getting into American Revolution history, its next year a string of events and battles in my immediate area Imight go to

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:26 AM (Ia/+0)

49 I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon.

I was at the Chicago Public Library a few months ago, researching old TV Guides (1952-1954), only available on microfilm. Final day of research, I come in, and it won’t let me log in to the film reader.

“The computer’s down. You can’t use the film readers until the computer comes back up; they’re aware of the problem.”

“What about that manual film reader over in the corner?”

“You’re welcome to try it. I have no idea how it works.”

I’m 90% certain I was able to get it to work, but the lower level of magnification and the complete lack of software-based image enhancement wasn’t enough to make the film readable. Fortunately, by the time I got that far, the computers were functional again.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 21, 2026 09:26 AM (kYmoU)

50 Shifting from fantasy to crime, as I often do, I'm reading a 1978 British mystery by one John R.L. Anderson featuring his detective/security officer, Col. Peter Blair: Death in the Greenhouse. Despite the modern cozy-style title, it's more of a classic detective tale in its tone. Blair is asked to find out why someone has shot a retired Foreign Office civil servant in his English greenhouse -- which requires him to probe into twenty-year-old doings in a former British African territory. I don't know if the story will actually take him to Africa.

So far, this seems more like a mix of the best of Somerset Maugham and John Dickson Carr, though without the latter's impossible crime tropes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:26 AM (wzUl9)

51 Great topic!

Posted by: TRex - dead sea dino at June 21, 2026 09:27 AM (IQ6Gq)

52 We have but a fraction of the sources they had, and their works would not have been preserved if their contemporaries considered it false rubbish.

Do I recall correctly that St. Augustine at least thought he had seen the Roman records of Jesus’s crucifixion?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 21, 2026 09:27 AM (kYmoU)

53 I finished reading Agatha Christie's Death on the Nile this week.

To avoid spoilers, I will only say that the butler didn't do it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:28 AM (gnNyN)

54 @45 --

All of the above.

Not all men are the same; neither are all women.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:28 AM (gQhJN)

55 Morning, Sabrina.

Howdy, Horde.

One backup? True -- not enough. The ebooks, and some movies and music here at Casa Some Guy are on my Chromebook's SSD, and also on a couple of USB hard drives and a couple of USB thumb drives. This is not careful planning on my part. Every time I get it into my head that I really need to finally organize and cull some of those files, I back up the mess so that I don't screw up the set I'm working on and lose everything. Some day I'll consolidate all of it and finally get it trimmed down and organized in one set of files without a lot of unwanted duplication, but before I get into that, I'd better run a backup. Just in case.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 09:30 AM (q3u5l)

56 It all sounds straightforward, yet I'm skeptical. We've only been told through other characters what is going on; we have yet to see anything for ourselves. And, after all, this is Donald Hamilton.
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026

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I have Night Walker on my shelf and have read it, but recall almost nothing about it. That's not a slam at Hamilton; I'm sure I enjoyed it, but I may have read it years ago and other things have intruded.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:31 AM (wzUl9)

57 They had to delete any references to FTL travel because the Nazis had once denounced Einstein, therefore FTL in fiction was a sign of fascism. You can't make this stuff up!
Posted by: Trimegistus

One of my favorite stories about artistic censorship under the Soviets concerns Prokofiev's opera War and Peace. Known primarily for his lighter works such as Peter and the Wolf, he decided to write something patriot when the Nazis attacked. But Stalin banned it because in the opera, as in real life, Moscow fell to Napoleon and Stalin wasn't having any of that Moscow falls crap.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:32 AM (ndZc7)

58 This is why I have so little patience with people who try to challenge ancient histories.
++++
Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.
John Malalas, Historia Augusta, Movses Khorenatsi, Ctesias' Persica...
Posted by: gKWVE
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In modern times -
- Kung Flu will kill you, and killed millions, not a government agent known as Fauci
- J6 was an insurrection somewhere on the scale between Whiskey Rebellion and Civil War.

Somewhere around here I have a fairly modern book on Ancient Rome. It's author points out these problems in history - we know people lie and they lie for political gain/power, and one of the most extension collections are (or some of) the papers of a guy who was paid to spread writings favorable to his patrons. We know this because that is in his writings.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 09:32 AM (/lPRQ)

59
I finished reading Agatha Christie's Death on the Nile this week.

To avoid spoilers, I will only say that the butler didn't do it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:28 AM (gnNyN)

Dame A played fair on that one but if you paid attention it was easy to figure out who done it.

An "easy" one to give her readers a victory?

Do mystery authors do that?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 09:33 AM (iJfKG)

60 "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:28 AM (gnNyN)

I've seen the movie with Peter Ustinov. It's about shots fired.

Posted by: dantesed at June 21, 2026 09:33 AM (Oy/m2)

61 I am getting less and less able to tolerate counterfactual bullshit in fantasy stories. Not magic and elves, but preliterate and preindustrial societies which somehow replicate the cultural norms of contemporary Seattle.

You don't _have_ ethnically diverse societies when most people die in the same village where they were born. You might have a family known as the "Blacks" because three generations back a shipwrecked sailor with darkish hair settled nearby, but all his descendants will look pretty much like their neighbors after fifty years.

You don't _have_ women in military professions before firearms. I have a family member, a woman, who competes at a fairly high level in fencing. She can beat other women her age, but not men. Size and strength actually matter. Plus societies which put fertile women on the battle line don't last long.

If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

62 The premise for Night Walker sounds similar to a recent-ish mystery movie I read about, probably here, but I can't remember the name of the movie or who was in it. :/

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (R+iUD)

63 I read a comic book adaptation of Rober Louis Stevenson's "Kidnapped," and I have reason to assume that this adaptation is fairly faithful to the original novel. Lots of wild plot swings, with new plot-shaking events arriving with very little warning. And yet, the book still feels less 'random' the RLS's other novel, "Treasure Island." Because in Kidnapped, crazy events happen to our young hero, usually instigated by outside forces. In contrast, Treasure Island too many events are precipitated by our hero doing something fooling for no particular reason. But I can also see why TI is the more famous of the two book; the premise of pirates and buried treasure is straightforward, and universally appealing. Kidnapped, on the other hand, deals a lot with the social fallout of the Scottish Civil War, which makes the setting far less understandable...

Speaking to the 'comic book' part of the adaptation, the art is okay. It doesn't stand out, but neither is it terrible. Its most interesting aspect is that the main hero is a long-faced teenager with a near-constant look of disgust/disdain. Given the events of the book, this is perfectly justified.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 21, 2026 09:36 AM (3v7ra)

64 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)
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Because it's all they "know" about the real world...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:37 AM (gnNyN)

65
One of my favorite stories about artistic censorship under the Soviets concerns Prokofiev's opera War and Peace. Known primarily for his lighter works such as Peter and the Wolf, he decided to write something patriot when the Nazis attacked. But Stalin banned it because in the opera, as in real life, Moscow fell to Napoleon and Stalin wasn't having any of that Moscow falls crap.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:32 AM (ndZc7)

I don't know how Prokofiev would have turned out had he stayed in the West instead of going back to the USSR, but his life after his return was a misery.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:37 AM (O0L8i)

66 Good morning everyone, happy Father's Day, and thank you, Sabrina!

Speaking of authors who refuse to write the next sequel (death being no excuse), Eris, did you know Alan Bradley died in May? Leaving his last Flavia de Luce book with a wide-open ending? God rest his soul.

But as it turns out, he did finish the next Flavia book and it is scheduled for publication in November of this year.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 09:38 AM (afFes)

67 44 ... "I purchased on impulse the four-volume set "The History of Middle Earth" by Christopher Tolkien (a handsome collection) and am beginning at the beginning with "The Return of the Shadow". I have low expectations but missed visiting Middle Earth."

AHE,
I have that set in hardcover, as any proper devotee of Tolkien must. (I gave the paperback version to my niece and her husband.) Not something I would read cover to cover but interesting for fanatics and obsessives.

I've seen that letter from Tolkien to Auden. Knowing how much of the LOTR story was developed on the fly was a fascinating, and surprising, insight. That's one of the reasons I enjoy collections of letters from authors I enjoy; the glimpses into the development of their writing.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 09:38 AM (yTvNw)

68 I finished reading Agatha Christie's Death on the Nile this week.

To avoid spoilers, I will only say that the butler didn't do it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026

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During my big detective phase in my teens, I read a lot of her mysteries and was not terribly impressed with her use of clues and reasoning. Reading some of those same books now, I see that she had an excellent grasp of human nature, and that human nature often was essential to the crimes and their solutions . . . much like the later Ellery Queen novels.

Her "Mary Westmacott" non-genre novels -- I've read three -- are superb stuff, with, again, that dramatic knowledge of human nature and motivations. They are like a mix of Somerset Maugham and A.J. Cronin's works, written in Agatha's own plainer style.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9)

69 >>> 61
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If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

Because those books are written by and for Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:39 AM (R+iUD)

70 . . . That's one of the reasons I enjoy collections of letters from authors I enjoy; the glimpses into the development of their writing.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026

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And their biographies or autobiographies. We see the kinds of things that inspired their choice of genre, or that inspired individual elements and characters in their work.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:40 AM (wzUl9)

71 Happy Father’s Day to all you well read dads!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 09:42 AM (Wmg4n)

72 Bluebell, I did not know that! Sad, but we have one more novel at least. Flavia was approaching young womanhood and I'm curious to see her as an adult.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 09:43 AM (kpS4V)

73 Talking of the Soviet Union reminds me of a little theory I've been tinkering with in my basement: most of what we call "revolutions" were really just "coups." What I mean by that is that they _didn't_ really change the society, just who was running it. The Russian Revolution kept the Russian colonial empire, the Tsar's secret police and travel restrictions, the top-down economic dirigisme, large landed estates, etc. It just replaced the nobility and the Tsar with the Party and the Central Committee. The French Revolution preserved most of Louis XIV's bureaucratic centralized state, just with a revolving door of characters at the top — hence the French fatalism about never being able to actually solve problems. Even cutting off heads didn't work.

Am I on to something here?

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:43 AM (78a2H)

74 I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon.

This curmudgeon's problem isn't with microfiche per se, but with libraries putting their holdings on microfiche and then destroying the originals. This is one reason why complete runs of some of the great newspapers like the New York Herald and Los Angeles Examiner no longer exist.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:44 AM (qRla/)

75 In modern times -
- Kung Flu will kill you, and killed millions, not a government agent known as Fauci
- J6 was an insurrection somewhere on the scale between Whiskey Rebellion and Civil War.
Itinerate Alley Butcher, I pray to GOD our great grand-children don't hear those fables. As an almost 78 year old adult who knows authentic history, I almost weep at the left continuing to re-write it. General Steven D. Lee warned us.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 09:44 AM (LHPAg)

76
Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.

Not just ancient history. Ty Cobb was given the reputation of a psychopathic racist because of the lies of Al Stump. Cobb wasn't a nice guy and he was raised in late 1800's Georgia, but most of the stories about him were later found to be false.

And Bill Veeck blackened Kenesaw Mountain Landis by claiming Landis prevented him from buying the Phillies in 1943 and using black ballplayers on the roster. There's no contemporaneous evidence for those two events.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:45 AM (O0L8i)

77 >>> 73 Talking of the Soviet Union reminds me of a little theory I've been tinkering with in my basement: most of what we call "revolutions" were really just "coups." What I mean by that is that they _didn't_ really change the society, just who was running it. The Russian Revolution kept the Russian colonial empire, the Tsar's secret police and travel restrictions, the top-down economic dirigisme, large landed estates, etc. It just replaced the nobility and the Tsar with the Party and the Central Committee. The French Revolution preserved most of Louis XIV's bureaucratic centralized state, just with a revolving door of characters at the top — hence the French fatalism about never being able to actually solve problems. Even cutting off heads didn't work.

Am I on to something here?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:43 AM (78a2H)

NO.

Posted by: the current derp state at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (R+iUD)

78 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)
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Because that is the core audience.

I have three daughters, two of which are into D&D. They both bristle at the idea of women NOT being able to play whatever they want. It is, after all, a fantasy.

However, they also accept men are stronger than women, and so when they want to play a brute crusher, they play a dude rather than a girlboss.

But the opening up of the fantasy genre to women means it gets female fantasies as well, and we all know those are very much different from how men think.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (ZOv7s)

79 Eris, I'm curious to see what he did with that big revelation about her father in that last book. I did not see that coming.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (afFes)

80 It could have been a crackling 20-page monograph, but I guess he had to pad it out to make a book. Sigh.

I’m currently reading a good spy novel (The Charm School) but it is…overlong. What is it with all these authors who think they’re Herman Melville? Just because you researched how whales get processed, doesn’t mean it goes in the book.

Posted by: The best thief in Lankhmar at June 21, 2026 09:47 AM (64rer)

81
Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:48 AM (O0L8i)

82 … and then destroying the originals.

Yup. When I returned to the Chicago Public Library a few months ago, it was to verify some poorly readable text against the originals. The scans look like they must have been made in the early nineties!

No can do. We don’t have the originals any more. I was able to tweak the computer enough to be reasonably certain of all of the iffy texts but one, but there are other things I fortunately didn’t need that will probably never be reasonably decipherable.

I see this on newspapers.com a lot, too. Though I hope they aren’t destroying their 1776-1826 papers, I am also not placing any bets.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (kYmoU)

83 Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.
John Malalas, Historia Augusta, Movses Khorenatsi, Ctesias' Persica...
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 09:18 AM (gKWVE)
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Or they were as discredited as we believe.

In the (many footnotes) to City of God, the translator points to an "error" which I ran to ground and found that it wasn't an error. Augustine was correct.

We can look at Herodotus and say he was full of crap, but he was writing what everyone said, and that's very useful to know.

Also: the modern idea of "just the facts" has its own weaknesses. Pre-modern audiences has a much stronger grasp of symbolism than we do.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)

84 Good morning Sabrina, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 21, 2026 09:50 AM (/6r4m)

85
It could have been a crackling 20-page monograph, but I guess he had to pad it out to make a book. Sigh.

There was a columnist for a dog-show publication that would never say in less than a paragraph anything for which a sentence would ordinarily suffice.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (O0L8i)

86 That scroll is in a condition a bookseller might call "slightly foxed".

Now that's funny. I've learned that "near fine" means "still has most of the pages" and "very good" means "still has at least one cover."

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (vTZFs)

87 Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:48 AM (O0L8i)
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I have come to despise it. I like Tolkien because he both defined and then transcended the genre. He reads completely differently to me know than he did back then.

I like R.E. Howard because he's just so over the top. He's not fantasy so much as just rolling with it. Minimalist world-building, character development is an afterthought.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

88 I’m currently reading a good spy novel (The Charm School) but it is…overlong. What is it with all these authors who think they’re Herman Melville? Just because you researched how whales get processed, doesn’t mean it goes in the book.
Posted by: The best thief in Lankhmar at June 21, 2026 09:47 AM (64rer)
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Yeah, I'm running into that issue with Seveneves...

It might as well be called "Technobabble: The Book!"

Stephen Baxter and Alistair Reynolds did a much better job of telling their version of this story in half the pages.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (gnNyN)

89 'I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon'
Me too. 'Somewhere', I have a microfiche of my Navy records, and you just reminded me 'hey why have you been going round and round with the VA almost 5 years when you have a microfiche?'. But alas how would I read it?

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 09:52 AM (LHPAg)

90 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes and thanks for the new thread, Sabrina.*

Tried to cure my sadness by book shopping this weekend. Picked up a few things here and there, but it didn't help.

One is Jack Beatty's The Lost History of 1914: Reconsidering the Year the Great War Began. He discusses five paths that would have led away from the War - a military coup in Germany, imminent civil war in Britain and so on - to support his thesis that "the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand [wasn't] the catalyst of a war that would have broken out in any event over some other crisis, but rather as its all-but-unique precipitant."

*I've always loved that name, probably because I had a crush on Kate Jackson.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:52 AM (qRla/)

91 Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026

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A lot of the modern stuff bores me, and I write it. It seems as though every huge fantasy novel on the Barnes & Noble shelves begins with some young woman looking out of a tower, remembering sadly the good old days when King Arglebargle IV ruled the land.

Give me Fred Saberhagen and his hardboiled Empire of the East. Or Larry Niven's imaginative Magic Goes Away stories in which mana, the power behind magic, is fading from the world, and creatures like mermen and unicorns breed oddly (giving us dolphins and ponies in the present world) where the mana is low.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:53 AM (wzUl9)

92 Or they were as discredited as we believe.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)
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This should read "weren't as discredited."

Note well that most "Bible scholars" detest their subject matter and work tirelessly to prove it false.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:53 AM (ZOv7s)

93 Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:48 AM (O0L8i

I hate it too, unless it is Arthurian fiction, and even then it's hit or miss.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:54 AM (qRla/)

94 Microfiche is great (I used to have fun reading the archives from 50 years prior to learn what people then thought was the One Big Thing ... that never made it to the history books). However! If it is on plastic the lifetime is finite. Glass microfiche exists but more rare and more expensive. The real way to preserve texts is lots and lots of copies, all over the place and in multiple repositories. Nothing is permanent. You need copies, and to keep making copies. Kind of like life, really ...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 09:56 AM (PHjsi)

95 I made some progress in the latest translation of Camp of the Saints. It's been years since I read another version of it, but I think I've identified where Raspail edited out some unnecessary passages. It remains as relevant as ever.

Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2026 09:56 AM (tTZHu)

96 No can do. We don’t have the originals any more. I was able to tweak the computer enough to be reasonably certain of all of the iffy texts but one, but there are other things I fortunately didn’t need that will probably never be reasonably decipherable.

I see this on newspapers.com a lot, too. Though I hope they aren’t destroying their 1776-1826 papers, I am also not placing any bets.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (kYmoU)

In James Caan’s Rollerball, a quiet but key moment is when he goes to the library to look up old records, and learns that nothing is there anymore, they just have links to the central database in Zurich.
So he goes to Zurich, and finds that the Central Database has forgotten everything and is useless.
The ruling class has erased the past.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 09:57 AM (nuNhM)

97 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

Because the author him/herself is a Bluesky subscriber wearing a LARP costume. And because the publisher is likely also a Bluesky subscriber.

Regardless, I full-heartedly share your disdain for too much modern attitudes in fantasy stories.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 21, 2026 09:58 AM (3v7ra)

98 Thomas Harris has a character -- one of Hannibal Lecter's victims who proves important in the hunt for Buffalo Bill -- named "Raspail." I wonder if Harris knew of, or read, Camp of the Saints?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:58 AM (wzUl9)

99 In related news, the reorganization of Chateau Lloyd's library system is grinding forward. The biggest complication is variable book size.

Tolkien, for example, is really difficult to keep in a single book case. There are oversized folios, illustrated guides, and then trade paperbacks. I'm doing a vertical system, so that the right side of the case is all Tolkien, but even then, the trade paperbacks are on the bedside bookcase - which is convenient for obvious reasons. I'm not reading a folio as a bedtime book.

There have been more than a few "wtf?" moments and I handle a book I've never seen before. Also a small stack of books to be sold or donated.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:58 AM (ZOv7s)

100 “ Yet you, Lord, are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.”

Isaiah 64:8

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2026 09:59 AM (PM/iv)

101 Am I on to something here?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:43 AM

You and Roger Daltrey, Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Really my take on the Russian Revolution is like all Leftists, flowery thinking everything will be different when we are in charge, but once that power is achieved the greed of it takes over and any old plans of equally are long forgotten.
Every Revolution has been this way.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:59 AM (Ia/+0)

102 The other is My Love Affair with the State of Maine, a 1955 memoir by an NYC ad executive named Gertrude Mackenzie who chucks it all to move to Goose Rocks, Maine (a part of Kennebunkport) to run a country store with her friend Dorothy. I have no idea how this one is going to turn out, but I hope it's at least as good as Chicken Every Sunday by Rosemary Taylor.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:59 AM (qRla/)

103 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

Because those books are written by and for Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:39 AM (R+iUD)

I also think there's a bit of...oh, let's call it, Brain Block working here.

Their imaginations can only wander down certain pre-approved paths. (ie, Travels in Woketardia).

It's the same reason why most Soviet fiction is so lousy and forgettable.

They strap the Chastity Political Belt around their brains so certain things can't occur or even be imagined.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 10:00 AM (iJfKG)

104 I haven't been able to read in bed for many years. When I go to bed -- nowadays, anyway! -- it's to sleep. I don't even think about watching TV there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:00 AM (wzUl9)

105 Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.

I can't dispute Clarke's line about sufficiently advanced technology but for me the (admittedly fuzzy) line is somewhere this side of dragons. I make an exception for Tolkien because... well... because I do, I guess.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 10:00 AM (vTZFs)

106 Never got heavily into fantasy. Some of Leiber, Vance, Tolkien, when I was in high school. Think I read Brooks's Sword of Shannara (sp?) when it came out, mainly out of curiosity, but almost nothing along that line after.

For me these days, it's a section in the bookshop that might as well be labelled "This You May Safely Ignore."

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 10:01 AM (q3u5l)

107 one is none, two is one

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 10:01 AM (xcxpd)

108 IIRC one of the mysteries in Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose was the existence of Aristotle's work on comedy in the secret library.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2026 10:02 AM (PiwSw)

109 The real way to preserve texts is lots and lots of copies, all over the place and in multiple repositories. Nothing is permanent. You need copies, and to keep making copies. Kind of like life, really ...
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 09:56 AM (PHjsi)
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Newspapers and magazines were never designed to be archival records. They were the television/radio/internet of their time, durable only because there was no cheaper way to make them.

When I was in college, the universities were switching over from bound copies of periodicals to microfiche, which was much more convenient, but now digital is the thing, and it's shocking how empty the library building is these days. It used to densely packed, with vast card catalogs, but all that's gone.

Worth remembering that many of the books that survived from antiquity were from private collections that were later moved to abbeys or castles.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:03 AM (ZOv7s)

110 I can't dispute Clarke's line about sufficiently advanced technology but for me the (admittedly fuzzy) line is somewhere this side of dragons. I make an exception for Tolkien because... well... because I do, I guess.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026

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Magic systems in so many stories seem to be, well, unsystematic. Magic, like tech, should have its own rules, and if there are exceptions they should be explained. It should also not be easy to work a spell, or then everybody could do it and why would you need professionals?

The two basic classical rules of magic, the Law of Similarity and the Law of Contagion, are a good start. But a clever writer will go beyond those.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:03 AM (wzUl9)

111 103 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

Because those books are written by and for Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:39 AM (R+iUD)
This is the reason I spend so much time here! No get ready for church. Later.

I also think there's a bit of...oh, let's call it, Brain Block working here.

Their imaginations can only wander down certain pre-approved paths. (ie, Travels in Woketardia).

It's the same reason why most Soviet fiction is so lousy and forgettable.

They strap the Chastity Political Belt around their brains so certain things can't occur or even be imagined.

Sad.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 10:00 AM (iJfKG)

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (LHPAg)

112 Thinking of our Revolution, it really was more a separation from England than replacing England government. The French, Russian, Chinese, Communist takeovers, Spanish and others I can't think of replaced the government not just separation from the government in charge.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (Ia/+0)

113 Note well that most "Bible scholars" detest their subject matter and work tirelessly to prove it false.

A point emphasized in Luke Timothy Johnson's The Real Jesus.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (qRla/)

114 At 111-
That right there.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 10:05 AM (LHPAg)

115 In Silence of the Lambs, (Benjamin) Raspail's head ends up in a jar. Perhaps Harris didn't have a high opinion of CotS.

Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2026 10:05 AM (tTZHu)

116 China went from an Imperial government to a Communist one. Or was that just another form of The Big Men Are in Charge, and You Little People Are Nothing?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:06 AM (wzUl9)

117 81
Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:48 AM (O0L8i)

*Shrug*

Some people hate BBQ too

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 10:06 AM (xcxpd)

118 Some people hate BBQ too
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 10:06 AM (xcxpd)

I don't understand those words of English in that order.

Posted by: dantesed at June 21, 2026 10:07 AM (Oy/m2)

119 Magic systems in so many stories seem to be, well, unsystematic. Magic, like tech, should have its own rules, and if there are exceptions they should be explained.

Good point. In the spirit of full disclosure, I should also admit an exception for Butcher's "Dresden Files" books. I think he generally does a good job with that.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 10:08 AM (vTZFs)

120 79 Eris, I'm curious to see what he did with that big revelation about her father in that last book. I did not see that coming.
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (afFes)

I read the first Flavia book some years ago, and then got distracted with other things and didn't read anymore. Maybe that's what I need to get me out of the current slump of disinterest.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 10:08 AM (h7ZuX)

121 Adjacent to Sabrina's topic of the Herculaneum scrolls and the need to preserve writing, I started speculating. How would I organize a modern library of Alexandria? Not so much the physical means but how to assign divisions of information.

Section 1 - facts: hard science like basic arithmetic, geography, how to make gun powder, etc.
Subsection - guess work and theories presented as facts including anything to do with Fauci or the United Nations and any system of government not based on individual freedom.

Section 2 - wisdom: myths, philosophy, literature, and, especially, poetry.

Section 1 would provide information. Section 2 would provide meaning.

The complex could be powered by burning the millions of unsold autobiographies of former First Ladies. That should cover the power needs for the first hundred years, maybe longer.

Guess I'm in a whimsical mood this morning.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (yTvNw)

122 One problem with newspapers is that they self-destruct. Wood pulp paper gets acidic and destroys itself. I recall once looking through some archival newsprint and being horrified at how it crumbled every time I turned a page. Scanning is basically the ONLY way to preserve old newspapers.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (78a2H)

123 Thinking of our Revolution, it really was more a separation from England than replacing England government. The French, Russian, Chinese, Communist takeovers, Spanish and others I can't think of replaced the government not just separation from the government in charge.
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (Ia/+0)
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The initial rebellion was to assert their traditional rights as Englishmen. It was only after their efforts were dismissed that independence was considered.

The Glorious Revolution of 1688 was their model, and even the term "Bill fo Rights" was copied from that event.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (ZOv7s)

124 >>> 112 Thinking of our Revolution, it really was more a separation from England than replacing England government. The French, Russian, Chinese, Communist takeovers, Spanish and others I can't think of replaced the government not just separation from the government in charge.
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (Ia/+0)

The leaders asserted they were reclaiming their rights as Englishmen, and while the *original* No Kings concept was certainly new, they didn't invent a whole new and insane set of RIGHTS! as our modern-day commie retards have.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (R+iUD)

125 Sorry, folks, I'm just not feeling right today, so I'm going to check out.

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (qRla/)

126 "the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand [wasn't] the catalyst of a war that would have broken out in any event over some other crisis, but rather as its all-but-unique precipitant."

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There were many off ramps that might have been taken but instead all parties marched blindly into the abyss. I do think that the war guilt clause that Germany was forced to accept was a vast over simplification. Now, WWII was more clear cut.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (ndZc7)

127 We can look at Herodotus and say he was full of crap, but he was writing what everyone said, and that's very useful to know.

Also: the modern idea of "just the facts" has its own weaknesses. Pre-modern audiences has a much stronger grasp of symbolism than we do.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)

A Greek writer who lived just 100 years after Herodotus (his name escapes me) wrote “Herodotus is called the Father of History, but he is the Father of Lies.” So some saw it from the start.

Lost great works - we know very little about the Etruscans now, mostly inference and guesswork. Yet there was a multi volume work in existence at the time of Claudius which covered their history, culture, and language in detail, as told by Etruscan descendants still living at the time. A truly great loss.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (nuNhM)

128 I just finished Anthony Horowitz' "A Deadly Episode," another Horowitz and Hawthorne book. While it was kind of annoying to make himself a character in the previous books, it works here, because the murder takes place on the movie set of the filming of his first H/H book, "The Word Is Murder" in Hastings.

The Hawthorne actor is murdered - was he the target or was it the real one? The story-within-a-story is a flashback to Hawthorne's first case as a PI because one of those involved in that case turns up in Hastings...

Posted by: Wethal at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (gihWY)

129 If Barack Obama had a library, it would look like that top photo.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (fkjGs)

130 I would like to pay a tribute to some of the fine fathers I recall in literature : "Atticus Finch" To Kill a Mockingbird, "Pa" in Little House on the Prairie and Matthew, the adoptive father of Anne in "Anne of Green Gables

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 10:12 AM (q5DOt)

131 What are these Alan Bradley "Flavia de Luce" books about? Comedies of manners, family dramas, or what?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:13 AM (wzUl9)

132 China went from an Imperial government to a Communist one. Or was that just another form of The Big Men Are in Charge, and You Little People Are Nothing?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:06 AM (wzUl9)
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It went from an Imperial system to a Republican one, and the Golden Decade of Nationalist rule from 1928 to 1937 is often overlooked. Huge gains were made in modernizing China, building internal improvements, eliminating things like foot binding, etc. Having known peace for the first time in decades, the economy took off.

The Communists were on the ropes, and the Long March would have come to naught if Japan hadn't attacked in 1937.

The Communists took over (read my book!) and did make a break from tradition, and it was disastrous. After Mao died, the old Imperial system has reasserted itself to the point where the CCP is the new Mandarin bureaucracy, only far less competent.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:14 AM (ZOv7s)

133 The empty libraries? It strikes me sometimes that libraries have, for quite a while, emphasized "access." We have "access" to all these books and periodicals through intricate interlibrary loan systems and digital databases. Don't see it here? Just ask, and we can probably get it for you. Everybody wants "access." But the items to be accessed are being stored in fewer and fewer places because who's got all that space and who wants the headache of maintaining it all? And some of those places don't loan all that stuff out anyway.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 10:15 AM (q3u5l)

134 Lost great works - we know very little about the Etruscans now, mostly inference and guesswork. Yet there was a multi volume work in existence at the time of Claudius which covered their history, culture, and language in detail, as told by Etruscan descendants still living at the time. A truly great loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026

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I believe Claudius was said to be working on a history of the Etruscans before he became emperor. Or maybe that was Robert Graves' invention?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)

135 A Greek writer who lived just 100 years after Herodotus (his name escapes me) wrote “Herodotus is called the Father of History, but he is the Father of Lies.” So some saw it from the start.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (nuNhM)
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Right, but historians are just as prone to character assassination as anyone else. I think Herodotus was a transitional figure between the idea of poetic, mythical history and a more grounded factual version. I note that Herodotus does frequently take the line of: "I don't say it's true, it's just what I heard."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:16 AM (ZOv7s)

136 I believe Claudius was said to be working on a history of the Etruscans before he became emperor. Or maybe that was Robert Graves' invention?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)
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It's true. Graves was a Latin scholar, and Penguin uses his translation of Suetonius, who Graves drew upon heavily.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:17 AM (ZOv7s)

137 Just finished my yearly reading of LOTR. Starting on Atkinson’s “The British are Coming”
Happy Father’s Day to all you dads.

Posted by: Uncle Slayton at June 21, 2026 10:21 AM (PJ6NO)

138 74 ... "
This curmudgeon's problem isn't with microfiche per se, but with libraries putting their holdings on microfiche and then destroying the originals. This is one reason why complete runs of some of the great newspapers like the New York Herald and Los Angeles Examiner no longer exist."

MP4,
I know about that and it is an abombination. If endless space and resources can be created for AI crap data centers, space can be set aside for preservation of documents and books. It's in the same category with libraries purging their shelves if a book isn't used i a year or so. That might explain why it's hard to find classic literature and history in a lot of libraries. Makes me wonder if libraries are administered by people who couldn't cut it in the NEA teachers union.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 10:22 AM (yTvNw)

139 I do enjoy fantasy fiction but, it's true, it's mostly junk these days. I hate to say it, but if I see a female author's name, I'm likely to pass on it.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2026 10:24 AM (VCgbV)

140 Based on China videos being smuggled out, I'd say the CCP is heading for a fall as the dynastic cycle grinds remorselessly on. In every dynasty there is a point where greed and corruption cripple the government, where it is easier to suppress bad news than fix the problems, and that is exactly where we are today, and the mainland Chinese are increasingly talking about it.

Certain temples and sacred mountains associated with dynastic change have been fenced off and locked down. Beijing itself has been entirely encircled by fencing - not just traffic checkpoints (which it always had but are now buffed up) but actual monitored border walls.

Mentioning "June 4th or "6/4" is forbidden. Even saying six and four together is forbidden. That's how paranoid they are right now.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:25 AM (ZOv7s)

141 I finished Three Men in a Boat. Once again the moron recommendation comes through. Thoroughly enjoyable. I’ll start Three Men on the Bummel today. I hope Montmorency is along for the ride this time, too.

Posted by: Who Knew at June 21, 2026 10:25 AM (QeSDj)

142 I was intrigued by magical systems that had consequences, like physical drains on the sorcerer or his environs, or there was a price to pay for every warping of reality, a blowback that unintentionally transformed other aspects of the world long term. The impact had to be balanced against the desired result. Like magical radioactivity.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:26 AM (kpS4V)

143 *I've always loved that name, probably because I had a crush on Kate Jackson.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:52 AM (qRla/)

You are a man of taste and discernment, MP4.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:27 AM (1Ff7Z)

144 @131 --

I've read only the first Flavia de Luce novel, and that was long before I joined AoS.

She's a smart young girl who's a self-taught chemist. Has an older sister who's a featherhead. Father is missing; I think the girls live with a relative. The family has money.

The only other thing I recall about the book is that it opened with Flavia mixing up a concoction to lace her sister's face cream.

The books are on my TBR list -- but for a change, I don't own them. Will need to rely on the library.

Now, please, someone who knows much more about Flavia jump in and correct me!

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 10:27 AM (+zDJ+)

145 I didn't get in on the kickstart for American Paladin so I'm waiting for it to come out in 2 days, not that I'm counting.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2026 10:28 AM (VCgbV)

146 It might as well be called "Technobabble: The Book!"

Stephen Baxter and Alistair Reynolds did a much better job of telling their version of this story in half the pages.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (gnNyN)

It could be the perceived value of a book three inches thick instead of one and a half. If I'm not mistaken, 40k words is still considered a novel, but who wants to pay $20 for a 40k word book?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:29 AM (1Ff7Z)

147 I was intrigued by magical systems that had consequences, like physical drains on the sorcerer or his environs, or there was a price to pay for every warping of reality, a blowback that unintentionally transformed other aspects of the world long term. The impact had to be balanced against the desired result. Like magical radioactivity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026

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Yes; a kind of magical Newtonian law. I've tinkered with the idea of inertia having to be considered too; that a colossal magical change to something in the world takes a little time to accomplish.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:29 AM (wzUl9)

148 A Greek writer who lived just 100 years after Herodotus (his name escapes me) wrote “Herodotus is called the Father of old greek homos"

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 10:30 AM (Kt19C)

149 I was intrigued by magical systems that had consequences, like physical drains on the sorcerer or his environs, or there was a price to pay for every warping of reality, a blowback that unintentionally transformed other aspects of the world long term. The impact had to be balanced against the desired result. Like magical radioactivity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026

Gandalf vs The Balrog

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2026 10:31 AM (Q+gd/)

150
Since we're talking about the Ancient Greeks and fantasy...

There's very fun novel from the 1990s titled

"Celestial Matters" by Richard Garfinkle.

It's a Hard Science SF novel where the Science is that of the Ancient Greeks with the Geocentric and Aristolean models being true.

And the Greeks are in a fierce physical, ideological and philosophical battle against the Middle Kingdom (China) and their Taoist Science lasting hundreds of years.
The Greeks believe they can achieve victory with a piece of the true(?) fire of the Sun, and thus plan a space journey, aaaand go!

I've never read another novel like this one before or after. Fun, entertaining read and very unjustly neglected.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 10:33 AM (iJfKG)

151 Avdynasty change in China would be something to see. ...from a distance. As for revolutions being coups, often that’s the case. I’ve argued that the Spanish in Mexico would have been much like that If the diseases that no body at the time knew the cause of or the cure for, the Spaniards would have been reasonably content to just sit in the place of the Aztec elite and collect the tribute. The Christian missionary aspect of the Spanish throws i little bit of a loop into that theory but without the devastating disease outbreaks, I think Mexico after the Spanish would be very like India after the Raj

Posted by: Who Knew at June 21, 2026 10:33 AM (QeSDj)

152 Gandalf vs The Balrog
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2026 10:31 AM (Q+gd/)
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Loyal angel vs rebel angel.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:33 AM (ZOv7s)

153 Thucydides who was quite a liar himself

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2026 10:36 AM (bXbFr)

154 See the kagan monograph

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2026 10:36 AM (bXbFr)

155 And apologies for all the typos. I’m trying to type on a iPad and defeat the spellcheck but not succeeding

Posted by: Who Knew at June 21, 2026 10:37 AM (QeSDj)

156 136 I believe Claudius was said to be working on a history of the Etruscans before he became emperor. Or maybe that was Robert Graves' invention?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)

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I find it odd that the affairs of the early Romans were so intertwined with the Etruscans, but the Etruscan language was completely unrelated to Latin. If I'm not mistaken, Etruscan wasn't even an Indo-European language.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:38 AM (u/oMr)

157 I just finished Anthony Horowitz' "A Deadly Episode," another Horowitz and Hawthorne book.

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I finished it a few days ago and quite liked it. I didn't see the solution to either murder coming.

Speaking of Horowitz mysteries, I have two. I have a clear recollection of Amazon offering me the opportunity to pre-order a fourth Susan Ryeland novel some months ago to be released at the end of the year. I thought it ridiculous to pre-order so early but now there is no reference to this book anywhere. Second, in Deadly Episode, there are a couple references to this being the sixth book in the series when, in fact, it is only the fourth. What happened to the other two books?

Incidentally, I saw a guy on YT discussing differences betweent British and American English. One concerned the word "quite". The Brits use it to mean "almost" while we use to mean "very". So when I say I quite liked the book, I mean I liked it very much while Horowitz might interpret it as I almost liked it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:38 AM (ndZc7)

158 148 A Greek writer who lived just 100 years after Herodotus (his name escapes me) wrote “Herodotus is called the Father of old greek homos"

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All modern historians stand on the shoulders of Greek giant homos.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:39 AM (u/oMr)

159 The recovery of the Herculeum scrolls is quite amazing. And a Herculean task!

I agree about multiple back ups of digital materials but still have no confidence in them. Too many ways to go wrong. Lack of power. Lack of software and machines to read them. (How many computer files are still usable after only a few decades?) Deteriorating storage media….
Posted by: JTB

Early his morning, randomly recalling a bit of video of my late brother and his then-wife, I was whelmed with remembering all the media that I hope, despite long odds, to someday digitize. Family film negatives I've never developed. Dad's old slides. Our old Super8 video, super-8mm films (some with sound!), VHS, even 16mm film. Every kind of digital media except 8" floppies, including Zip tapes that have a few files I'd really like to recover. Double-density double-sided 5" floppies from the Shack Model I days - yeah, those will be easy to recover.

Meanwhile, I haven't even got what's on the disk drives backed up sufficiently. And new drives cost a fortune, I hear.

Pixy recently wrote, it's not safe until you have backups in at least three formats on two different continents.

And keep away from volcanos!

Posted by: mindful webworker - preserve your memories, they're all that's left you -Paul Simon at June 21, 2026 10:40 AM (9bb3y)

160 I'm also in Paul Cantor's "Gilligan Unbound: Pop Culture in the Age of Globalization". In it he compares optimistic products of consensus culture, like Star Trek and Gilligan's Island, with later examples of more nihistic outlooks like The X-Files and The Simpsons (though I would argue that the latter two, especially The Simpsons, were sort of the last gasp of a broadly appealing cultural touchstone).

Fun fact: Sherwood Schwartz named the ill-fated SS Minnow after FCC Chairman Newton Minnow, who famously disparaged the "vast wasteland" of television.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:41 AM (kpS4V)

161 Based on China videos being smuggled out, I'd say the CCP is heading for a fall as the dynastic cycle grinds remorselessly on. In every dynasty there is a point where greed and corruption cripple the government, where it is easier to suppress bad news than fix the problems, and that is exactly where we are today, and the mainland Chinese are increasingly talking about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:25 AM (ZOv7s)

That can't be true! I have it on good authority of someone who says he's the smartest person on the internet, that China is about to take over the world. It must just be capitalist running dog lies!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:41 AM (1Ff7Z)

162 I knew the sales of Malcolm Guite's epic ballad "Galahad and the Grail" were good and discovered they were better than I expected. The entire first run of all editions by the American and British publishers sold out and a second run was needed within a month of its debut. That run is selling fast.

The numbers aren't huge by NYT bestseller standards but I am amazed and encouraged at the reception. Volume two comes out in November. I heard the special, limited edition is already sold out.

FWIW, I think Guite's Arthuriad will end up in the same tier as Tennyson's Idylls of the King and might revitalize the ballad form for epic poetry.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 10:42 AM (yTvNw)

163 Gandalf vs The Balrog
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I want to see this staged as an MMA cagematch or with luchadors.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:43 AM (kpS4V)

164 I've never read another novel like this one before or after. Fun, entertaining read and very unjustly neglected.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 10:33 AM (iJfKG)

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I second the recommendation of Celestial Matters.

Garfinkle also wrote All Of An Instant, which is about the discovery of a realm outside of time. Adventurous stuff.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2026 10:45 AM (PiwSw)

165 What, did everybody fall asleep?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:53 AM (1Ff7Z)

166
I find it odd that the affairs of the early Romans were so intertwined with the Etruscans, but the Etruscan language was completely unrelated to Latin. If I'm not mistaken, Etruscan wasn't even an Indo-European language.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026

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The Romans got the idea of gladiatorial arena games from the Etruscans, I believe. And the latter are supposed to have come originally from Asia Minor, or somewhere out that way.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:53 AM (wzUl9)

167 Aargh. I just read the synopsis of the first Flavia de Luce book. Oh boy, did I screw things up. For openers, father is very much alive.

In an attempt to make amends, let me promote this website:

bookseriesinorder.com

You can search by author, character, or title.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 10:54 AM (+zDJ+)

168 Herodotus does frequently take the line of: "I don't say it's true, it's just what I heard."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Ah, the MSNOW approach. Incidentally, the MSM seems to be all in on the algae in the reflecting pool story because we haven't anything else to worry about. Here, for example, The Atlantic covers Big Algae

https://tinyurl.com/3fjjn3v8

and here Karoline Leavitt is forced to cover Algae-gate.

https://tinyurl.com/38czw65n

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:55 AM (ndZc7)

169 Aargh. I just read the synopsis of the first Flavia de Luce book. Oh boy, did I screw things up. For openers, father is very much alive.

In an attempt to make amends, let me promote this website:

bookseriesinorder.com

You can search by author, character, or title.
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026

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Oh -- the Flavia books are a mystery series! Okay!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:57 AM (wzUl9)

170 The Romans got the idea of gladiatorial arena games from the Etruscans, I believe. And the latter are supposed to have come originally from Asia Minor, or somewhere out that way.

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For a time it was believed that the language of Linear B was related to Etruscan. Then someone figured out it was actually early Greek.

There was an idea tossed around once that had the Hittites related to the Etruscans, but I think that fell by the wayside when it was confirmed that Hittite was an Indo-European language.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:59 AM (u/oMr)

171 Haven't heard of Richard Garfinkle before, but he has a number of titles in the Kindle store (though not Celestial Matters or All In an Instant) and they look like strange & unusual stuff indeed.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 11:01 AM (q3u5l)

172 I do enjoy fantasy fiction but, it's true, it's mostly junk these days. I hate to say it, but if I see a female author's name, I'm likely to pass on it.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2026 10:24 AM (VCgbV)

Not just female authors. Female playwrights, directors, CEOs, pilots,.........

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 11:02 AM (5Jn8W)

173 Magic systems in so many stories seem to be, well, unsystematic. Magic, like tech, should have its own rules, and if there are exceptions they should be explained. It should also not be easy to work a spell, or then everybody could do it and why would you need professionals?

The two basic classical rules of magic, the Law of Similarity and the Law of Contagion, are a good start. But a clever writer will go beyond those.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:03 AM

I decided to ditch rules of magic in my writing because it was starting to feel like video game systems.

I was doodling the stairs of creation - I don't know the real name, but it's the stairs toward God with angels, then Man, then animals, and plants. I was trying to remember the different levels of angels and remembered an Irish legend that the magical people are just angels who remained neutral in the war of Heaven.

So my magic "system" is really about the nature of created beings and envy driving them to gain attributes they weren't meant to have.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2026 11:07 AM (ysTZR)

174 The Romans got the idea of gladiatorial arena games from gladiator movies.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 11:08 AM (Kt19C)

175 Thank you for the posting on the recovery of lost books. I can't begin to imagine how one reads the text embedded in a lump of carbon; but there it is.

In our collection is a volume of an encyclopedia published in the 19th century. The binding is falling apart, and in it is a portion of a newspaper article on the annexation of Texas. (In the mid-19th century, newspapers were printed on flatbed presses, using much higher quality paper than nowadays.) It's not quite the same as the recovery of a lost treatise by Archimedes, but it's a fragment of history nonetheless.

Posted by: Nemo at June 21, 2026 11:09 AM (4RPgu)

176 Spammer belowdecks in pixy's thread
Posted by: Metal Roofing at June 21, 2026 10:12 AM (8rrT7

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 11:09 AM (gKWVE)

177 " Copy early and often (and for the love of Ghu CHECK THAT THE BACKUP WORKS!)"

And when you get a new backup technology, the older ones' last duty is to serve as the source for moving its backups to the new tech.

Posted by: SDN at June 21, 2026 11:12 AM (0sMG6)

178 There was an idea tossed around once that had the Hittites related to the Etruscans, but I think that fell by the wayside when it was confirmed that Hittite was an Indo-European language.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026

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"Hittites?"

"Very big in ancient Mesopotamia. Big guys."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:13 AM (wzUl9)

179 174 The Romans got the idea of gladiatorial arena games from gladiator movies.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 11:08 AM (Kt19C)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Capt. Clarence Oveur at June 21, 2026 11:16 AM (PiwSw)

180 I tend to read children's fantasy books from the 1990s and before. It's not like YA: No smut, charming characters, and villains that don't have sympathetic backstories. I was sorry to learn that British author Gillian Philip was "cancelled"; the third book of her Ravenstorm Island series was published in German but the English publication was killed.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2026 11:18 AM (ysTZR)

181 Hittites were a big player in the region until the Late Bronze Age Collapse. After that, they never recovered as a major power and were reduced to a fragmented gaggle of inconsequential polities until the culture disappeared completely.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 11:20 AM (u/oMr)

182 Yes, most female bylines now are a turnoff for me. In older times there were Josephine Tey, Anne Rivers Siddons, Laura Z. Hobson, and a few others, as well as Agatha Christie. But they played fair -- gave us unpleasant female characters as well as heroic ones, heroic males as well as evil or clueless, etc. In other words, they showed more of the full range of humanity than do modern authors (of either sex), who are too busy doing the Girlboss/Dullwitted or Evil Man tropes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:21 AM (wzUl9)

183 This week's Kindle read was the "Space Mechanic" series by Jamie MacFarlane.

It is 1950, and WWII veteran Rix Banner is thoroughly enjoying the quiet life of small town America as he runs his auto repair shop. Then one evening, a pretty girl shows up at his garage and asks if he can fix her spaceship...

It's simple space opera, but it is notable for its lack of gore, sex, and foul language. There is not even a hint of The Message or pandering to Modern Audiences. I found it refreshing.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2026 11:21 AM (5QSoL)

184 In that fight between Gandalf and the Balrog what exactly did happen?

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 11:22 AM (Ia/+0)

185 This week's Kindle read was the "Space Mechanic" series by Jamie MacFarlane.

It is 1950, and WWII veteran Rix Banner is thoroughly enjoying the quiet life of small town America as he runs his auto repair shop. Then one evening, a pretty girl shows up at his garage and asks if he can fix her spaceship...

It's simple space opera, but it is notable for its lack of gore, sex, and foul language. There is not even a hint of The Message or pandering to Modern Audiences. I found it refreshing.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2026

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Sounds very Heinleinesque, like his Have Space Suit -- Will Travel!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9)

186 In that fight between Gandalf and the Balrog what exactly did happen?
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026

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All I can recall is Gandalf and the Balrog falling off the bridge over the chasm, and Gandalf shouting up at the Fellowship members: "Fly, you fools!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:23 AM (wzUl9)

187 Sanford and son tv marathon. To aunt Esther:
I could put dough on the counter, push yo face in it and make gorilla cookies.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 11:26 AM (Kt19C)

188 "I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon."

I've been working on a project involving the city of Chicago in the year 1919. Much of the material is coming from newspapers preserved on microfilm. It's clear to me that a writer a century from now who wishes to write a similar project about our time is going to have a much tougher time of it. In part, that's because the newspaper, as a synopsis of events in a given place and time, no longer exists. And in part, it's because of the fragility of the media on which records of our time are being kept. I doubt whether more than a tiny fragment of what we're recording electronically will still exist a century from now. Despite our luxuriating in electronic media, our time may well be another dark age, in the sense that future historians will find it nearly impossible to learn what was happening in our here and now.

Posted by: Nemo at June 21, 2026 11:26 AM (4RPgu)

189 falling off the bridge over the chasm
Naw, that's Sherlock Holmes.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 11:27 AM (Kt19C)

190 @169 --

Uh, yeah, that.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 11:27 AM (p/isN)

191 140 Based on China videos being smuggled out, I'd say the CCP is heading for a fall as the dynastic cycle grinds remorselessly on. In every dynasty there is a point where greed and corruption cripple the government, where it is easier to suppress bad news than fix the problems, and that is exactly where we are today, and the mainland Chinese are increasingly talking about it.”

Wait are we talking about California now?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:29 AM (nuNhM)

192 All I can recall is Gandalf and the Balrog falling off the bridge over the chasm, and Gandalf shouting up at the Fellowship members: "Fly, you fools!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,

Or was that Sherlock Holmes?

Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2026 11:30 AM (sl73Y)

193 Sanford and son tv marathon. To aunt Esther:
I could put dough on the counter, push yo face in it and make gorilla cookies.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026

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I fondly recall when Ace was signing himself "Lamont the Big Dummy."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:31 AM (wzUl9)

194 ll I can recall is Gandalf and the Balrog falling off the bridge over the chasm, and Gandalf shouting up at the Fellowship members: "Fly, you fools!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
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Or was that Sherlock Holmes?
Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2026

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Holmes left a very polite and civilized note for Watson before grappling with Moriarty at the falls.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:32 AM (wzUl9)

195 Sanford & Son --

Am I the only one with the impression that television comedy turned into an almost non-stop exchange of insults with the arrival of Norman Lear?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 11:34 AM (q3u5l)

196 Aunt Esther scene I remember:
Fred: “what kind of a name is Esther anyways? Where’d that come from?”
Aunt Esther: “I’ll have you know that my name is found in the Holy Bible itself!”
Fred: “oh yeah, didn’t Sampson kill a thousand men with yo’ jawbone?”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:35 AM (nuNhM)

197 I remember Gandalf and the Balrog plunging off a bridge. But as today has shown, my memory is fallible.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 11:35 AM (p/isN)

198 Am I the only one with the impression that television comedy turned into an almost non-stop exchange of insults with the arrival of Norman Lear?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026

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I don't think you are alone. The modern age of more sophisticated TV comedy began with Mary Tyler Moore's show and the other MTM offerings. But it was Archie, Fred Sanford, George Jefferson, and many others that started the "relevant" era of comedy and the rapid-fire insult routines that had been the province of Don Rickles before that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:36 AM (wzUl9)

199 I don't think you are alone. The modern age of more sophisticated TV comedy began with Mary Tyler Moore's show and the other MTM offerings. But it was Archie, Fred Sanford, George Jefferson, and many others that started the "relevant" era of comedy and the rapid-fire insult routines that had been the province of Don Rickles before that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:36 AM (wzUl9)

The show that started it all: All In the Family.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 11:39 AM (g8Ew8)

200 Now that I think about it, "relevant" themes were prevalent in TV in the late '60s in drama shows. The Name of the Game, The Storefront Lawyers, Medical Center, Marcus Welby, all of those. The producers actually used the word "relevant" in their show descriptions, and the stories seemed to focus on youth rebellion, drugs, premarital sex, etc. As much as the networks would allow, of course -- which was more than they had allowed only five years or so before.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:40 AM (wzUl9)

201 After Gandalf meets backup with the travelers he tells of fighting the Balrog until he defeats it

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 11:41 AM (Ia/+0)

202 The show that started it all: All In the Family.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026

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Mary's series premiered about four months before AitF. But yes, Archie and his family began the full cycle of "topical" comedies, where a lot of the conflict had to do with then-modern morality and how America was changing from the old ways. Maude arguing with her daughter and husband, George Jefferson hating white people living nearby, all of that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:42 AM (wzUl9)

203 When it comes to modern fantasy or fiction in general, I tend to skip past female authors. With Sabrina Chase here and Sgt. Mom (Celia Hayes) I know I'll get an entertaining book but they are the exceptions. Recommendations from the Horde led me to Susannah Clarke. Most female fiction writers I enjoy wrote fifty years ago or more like Josephine Tey, Lucy Smith or Agatha Christie. Nonfiction and children's books like the Brambly Hedge stories are a different category.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 11:44 AM (yTvNw)

204 Been busy reading, but no time to report on any today.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2026 11:44 AM (Meyva)

205 Time for me to depart the Book Thread for today, but I shall be back (in a posting capacity) July 19. In lurker mode, always! They made the mistake of giving me Open Blogger permissions, bwahahaha.... Enjoy your books!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 11:44 AM (ee9bx)

206 Possibly off topic, I've sort of always had idea's for movies but never really had any drive to put pen to paper as they say, so I got the bug and was looking at screenwriting software, tried a couple of them, they were all way overly complex and gui centric.

So I'm a neovim/vim/cli kind of guy, so I bashed together a config that basically looks like a word processor from the 80's but has screenwriting hooks.

I've been testing it out with the screenplay to Sinners.

Basically copying the entire structure verbatim, it's working out pretty good.

I will say this, reading the screenplay to Sinners is fascinating because what's on paper is so dry and matter of fact, and quite frankly boring, that I have no idea how that film got made or had any interest.

I've also been reading screenplays in general and have discovered that a lot of great films do not come from the page at all.

Like reading the screenplay for Wedding Crashers, the screenplay is not funny at all.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026 11:45 AM (XV/Pl)

207 Dad died 58 years ago. I wish I'd had more time with him. Wonder if I'd have had a better relationship with him than did my two ornery older brothers.

The First Source and Universe Center has never revealed himself by name, only by nature. If we believe that we are the children of this Creator, it is only natural that we should eventually call him Father. But this is the name of our own choosing, and it grows out of the recognition of our personal relationship with the First Source and Center.
—The Urantia Book, Paper 1, Section 1, The Father's Name

I've been thinking about reading the UB again. Been a long time, although parts of it I've re-read often.

There was a time I started to tell on here, in serialized comments, about the interesting (to me, anyway) struggle of Urantia Bookies to preserve and protect the "original text," which struggle eventually vacated the copyright. I was discouraged in this effort by Oregon Muse, although suppressing my efforts was probably not his intent. Suggested no one was interested. Perhaps he was right.

Explore the first lines in the UB in mindful cartoon webwork format
Exploring the Foreword
https://bit.ly/natl-ubographic

Posted by: mindful webworker - preserve your memories, they're all that's left you -Paul Simon at June 21, 2026 11:46 AM (9bb3y)

208 Thirty plus years ago I bought a box full of books at an estate auction and in that box was a 1850's handbook for the Independent Order of Oddfellows.

It was falling to pieces, the muslin cover loose; the binding loose, but the pages were in fine condition - the spine was indeed shimmed with slips of text cut from some other book. It also had some interesting images - eye centered in the palm of a hand sort of thing.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 11:46 AM (fnZRl)

209 Yes, most female bylines now are a turnoff for me.

When you see a 20 or 30 fantasy book series on Amazon with a female name as the author, you can pretty well bet that it's AI generated mommy pron.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 11:48 AM (vTZFs)

210 Reading this week? Decided to put off Bleak House for a while. I'll take another run at it some time this year or early next. Am almost a quarter of the way through Brothers Karamazov, and also skipping around in Richard Matheson's haunted house novel Hell House.

That is, when I'm not busy creating redundant backups of the ebook files.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 11:49 AM (q3u5l)

211
It was falling to pieces, the muslin cover loose; the binding loose, but the pages were in fine condition - the spine was indeed shimmed with slips of text cut from some other book. It also had some interesting images - eye centered in the palm of a hand sort of thing.
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 11:46 AM (fnZRl)

If you put it under a black light, it might be a treasure map.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 11:50 AM (g8Ew8)

212 The one screenplay I read that was pretty much word for word and beat for beat page to screen is Pulp Fiction.

Pretty much all Tarantino screenplays and movies are what you read is what you get.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026 11:51 AM (XV/Pl)

213 > 208

There were a few other old books, one was a small book compilation of Norse mythology - the original owner had pressed a four-lear clover between pages - the clover was still perfectly preserved and green.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 11:51 AM (fnZRl)

214 Aunt Esther scene I remember:
Fred: “what kind of a name is Esther anyways? Where’d that come from?”
Aunt Esther: “I’ll have you know that my name is found in the Holy Bible itself!”
Fred: “oh yeah, didn’t Sampson kill a thousand men with yo’ jawbone?”

And note that the punchline depends on the audience being familiar with the Bible. I doubt that joke would land today.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 11:52 AM (vTZFs)

215 Yes, most female bylines now are a turnoff for me.

When you see a 20 or 30 fantasy book series on Amazon with a female name as the author, you can pretty well bet that it's AI generated mommy pron.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 11:48 AM (vTZFs)

Putting the cock in cockatrice.

Posted by: Minotaurs ravaged my cooch! at June 21, 2026 11:53 AM (TbWk/)

216 Sometimes reading stage play scripts are disappointing too. If the playwright doesn't include stage directions and indications of *how* a character says something, it can come across very flat. Frederick Knott's script for Wait Until Dark is *not* like that -- it almost reads like a short story written in present tense. And Neil Simon's plays are usually fun to read; see The Odd Couple, for instance.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:54 AM (wzUl9)

217 A lot of William Goldman's scripts make fun reading. Some of Harlan Ellison's too, and Richard Matheson's. Haven't gotten to it yet, but I've been thinking about reading Frederic Raphael's script for the delightful movie Two for the Road; Raphael is also a novelist, so I imagine it'll be at least pretty readable.

Maybe a lot of great flicks don't come from the page, but without the page would the director and cast have much to work with?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 11:58 AM (q3u5l)

218 Of course the edition of the play script might be the issue regarding the readability. The acting script might have all the directions and cues in it. The transcripts published in those volumes of "The Ten Best of Broadway, 1967" might not.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:58 AM (wzUl9)

219 Anyway! A tip of the chapeau to Sabrina for leading a fine discussion with all your great people. Enjoy your Sunday!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:59 AM (wzUl9)

220 And I'm off to fail to do anything constructive today here at Casa Some Guy.

Thanks for the thread, Sabrina.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 12:00 PM (q3u5l)

221 Off to conquer the world (I do it so subtly and nefariously that few notice).

Read only good books! Or, failing that, top tier trash.

*disappears in a puff of lavender smoke and holographic glitter*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 12:00 PM (kpS4V)

222 If you put it under a black light, it might be a treasure map.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 11:50 AM (g8Ew

The funny part being that various groups both lunatic* and fun loving used Mount Shasta caves and lava tubes for initiation ceremonies. I bought the bought the box of books in the Shadow of Mount Shasta.

*The belief in Lemuria in Mt. Shasta
*Love Has Won

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 12:01 PM (fnZRl)

223 ALL BOOKS CLOSED, THERE WILL BE A TEST

NOOD

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:02 PM (Ia/+0)

224 I'm tellin' ya, my backup plan is bodice-rippers where housebound dipsomaniac former baristas on disability for their neuropathy get gangbanged by illegal immigrant capybarataurs and the stern but sensual Immigration & Creature Enforcement agents who hunt them.

I will publish this trash under the pseudonym "Cornelia Flickbean."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 12:04 PM (BI5O2)

225
Book Thread: West Coast Edition

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 12:05 PM (fnZRl)

226 @216

>>If the playwright doesn't include stage directions and indications of *how* a character says something, it can come across very flat.

Learning about scriptwriting, those are called parentheticals, and are generally used sparingly because the idea is that the actors will interpret how the lines are too be delivered.

Tarentino doesn't use them but will tell an actor exactly how his line will be delivered.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026 12:11 PM (XV/Pl)

227
Lemurians on Mt. Shasta by Dr. Clem Davies

https://archive.org/details/lemurians-on-mount-shasta

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 12:13 PM (fnZRl)

228 >>If the playwright doesn't include stage directions and indications of *how* a character says something, it can come across very flat.

Learning about scriptwriting, those are called parentheticals, and are generally used sparingly because the idea is that the actors will interpret how the lines are too be delivered.

Tarentino doesn't use them but will tell an actor exactly how his line will be delivered.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026

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Right, but I mean a reading copy for the general public. Certainly some of the stage directions can be carried over from the actual production.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 12:48 PM (wzUl9)

229 Current work on these carbonized scrolls can be found at the Vesuvius Challenge on Discord.

Posted by: Aawlberninf350 at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (8RozV)

230 Greetings from the West Coast where it is still morning.

@13times: Thanks for the link in #227 about Lemurians in Mt. Shasta. My in-laws retired there, so we would camp in the area so our kids could visit with their grandparents. And it's beautiful country there in "The State of Jefferson."

There were some interesting independent bookstores in Mt. Shasta City, including some that were not "New Age." Bought the first volume of the "Outlander" series in one of the bookstores where the staff wrote notes to recommend books and placed them on the shelves.

Posted by: March Hare at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (O/GSq)

231 Currently reading The Pyrates: A Gripping Adventure Satire of High Seas Duels and Buried Treasure by Geard MacDonald Fraser, of Flashman fame. DIL gave it to me as a Christmas present and apologized because it is a used copy of the trade paperback. I don't care--the fact the book is previously owned does not affect the story! However, my edition is 400+ pages and has tiny type. Pyrates may end up being my summer "big read."

Posted by: March Hare at June 21, 2026 01:34 PM (O/GSq)

232 I said my goal this year was to reread the Matt Helm novels. I'm about half way through my collection The Intriguers (1972), and the reference to Night Walker made me go look on that bookshelf, and, sure enough, there it is, on the end, along with a bunch of "other" Donald Hamilton books. It's a Gold Medal paperback, 60¢ cover price. I opened it carefully - the pages are yellow, and the whole book is dry - and checked the copyright date. 1954. Yep, Matt was still a Citizen, because "Death of a " is copyrighted in 1960.
A book like that is perfectly suited to Amazon's long-tail model, if it was converted to an ebook.
Which brings up the copyright issue and DRM. Proposed modification of DRM law: the code has to build in its expiration coincident with copyright expiration. When the © expires, the encryption disappears.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 21, 2026 02:15 PM (RW118)

233 There were some interesting independent bookstores in Mt. Shasta City, including some that were not "New Age." Bought the first volume of the "Outlander" series in one of the bookstores where the staff wrote notes to recommend books and placed them on the shelves.
Posted by: March Hare
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I climbed (Actually slogged, since there is practically no technical climbing on the easy route to the top. You pant a lot at 14k) Mt Shasta in the mid-70s. The town then was much, much, smaller. On forays up and down I5 in the 90s, we'd always stop at the original Black Bear Diner there. My last, not pleasant, visit 5 years ago emphasized how big it has grown. My truck sprung a diesel.leak under the hood at 10 in the evening, and I wound up in a hotel there. The next morning, I started finding a garage to look at it. There were now 4 garages doing diesel work in Mt Shasta city. (It was the regulator fitting). North of Reading, inland NorCal is one big summer resort. Bookstores are a standard resort business. Glad you found a good one.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 21, 2026 02:35 PM (RW118)

234
160 I'm also in Paul Cantor's "Gilligan Unbound: Pop Culture in the Age of Globalization". In it he compares optimistic products of consensus culture, like Star Trek and Gilligan's Island . . .

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:41 AM (kpS4V)

***

Those poor people!

Posted by: Mathesar at June 21, 2026 03:03 PM (TPFQA)

235
Happy Fathers day to the fathers estranged from their sons for TDS. I still love you.

Posted by: frankly at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (ACKqg)

236 Very interesting article, Open Blogger. Thanks.

Posted by: Pooklord at June 21, 2026 08:44 PM (9MAOs)

Daily Tech News 21 June 2026

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 04:32 AM (3UbC6)

2 w00t

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

3 Good sunshiny summer Sunday morning! Exercised, showered, and hydrated.

Gets up, lazies!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 04:37 AM (3UbC6)

4 Guten morgen. horde.

Posted by: clarence at June 21, 2026 04:38 AM (I5lp2)

5 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2026 04:40 AM (Hpgos)

6 Psy - Gentleman
He seems nice.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 04:41 AM (6wpGE)

7 >>>Psy - Gentleman
He seems nice.

Posted by: m

>Interesting. Nice editing and directing. What genre would you call that?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 04:48 AM (fkjGs)

8 Good morning all, time for me to try and go to sleep.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 21, 2026 04:48 AM (Q/FnY)

9
I forgot about this silliness. Sunrise at Stonehenge. That happen a little before midnight EDT:

https://t.ly/i5pu9

Sunrise happens there at about 1:10 in. The Druids blow some damned horn or something. Now, I don't know why they don't put a camera right dead center so they can show the sun rise over the Heel Stone.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 04:49 AM (w6EFb)

10 Mornin' Horde.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 04:52 AM (O7YUW)

11 Care for our children . Proverbs 13:1. International Fellowship of Christians and Jews:

https://tinyurl.com/4dnj2ef9

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 04:52 AM (dSKRp)

12 3 Good sunshiny summer Sunday morning! Exercised, showered, and hydrated.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 04:37 AM (3UbC6)

I failed to hydrate before going to bed and that was a big mistake.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 04:53 AM (6wpGE)

13 >Interesting. Nice editing and directing. What genre would you call that?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 04:48 AM (fkjGs)
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Korean Rot.

Psy is most famous for Gangnum Style:

https://youtu.be/9bZkp7q19f0

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 04:54 AM (3UbC6)

14 God the Father. Christian devotional on Ephesians 3:16-19:

https://tinyurl.com/5mu4y9va

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 04:54 AM (dSKRp)

15 G'mornin' everyone!

lovely foggy morning out there, 44 degrees, and I'm getting ready for a hit-the-trailhead-at-dawn hike!

making extra coffee, woohoo!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2026 04:57 AM (VyBeY)

16 Officer plays piano to comfort family after father's fall and after he is taken care of. Faithpot site :

https://tinyurl.com/499bvm84

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 04:58 AM (n3VHW)

17 From the AOS home page Top Headlines side column:

Paul Sperry

NEW: Just heard something extraordinary from a former White House official who worked with former National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster in Trump45's NSC: "McMaster had weekly phone calls with George Soros. We have no idea why." Neither could be reached for comment.
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All the signs were there. I first read about the deep statesman McMaster in the 2020 book, "The Memo: Twenty Years Inside the Deep State Fighting for America First, by Rich Higgins.

Higgins kept trying to send a message way upstream to Trump WH no. 1 that something was very rotten in the NSC, where McMaster ruled.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 05:01 AM (3UbC6)

18 @7/Rev. Wishbone: " What genre would you call that?"

My first thought was "weird" but in actuality I believe it's K-pop (Korean pop).

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 05:02 AM (O7YUW)

19 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at June 21, 2026 05:06 AM (V0/Sp)

20 Shuttle driver goes into rushing water to save people:

https://tinyurl.com/4nzjtc5u

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:09 AM (OYsYV)

21
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 21, 2026 05:12 AM (AMvSw)

22 The soft breeze caressing the tree
Leaves gently swaying in line
Warm summer sunlight will agree
That all is right and fine

The soft scent of flowering hedge rows
Deepens our love of beauty
Colorful birds line up to pose
As if this were a call to duty

Raise your eyes up to the sky
Let your voice call to the breeze
And let all know that as we fly
All may do as they please


fin

Posted by: clarence at June 21, 2026 05:18 AM (I5lp2)

23 Posted by: clarence at June 21, 2026 05:18 AM (I5lp2

Lovely. Thanks!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:20 AM (n3VHW)

24 I am very grateful to FenSpouse who is a good man and dad ,and who is kindly preaching for me on Father's Day because I cannot talk about being a father,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:23 AM (n3VHW)

25 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 21, 2026 05:29 AM (NyXeV)

26 @24/FenelonSpoke: I'm glad FenSpouse is a good husband and father, whose presence in your life brings you joy. This is how it should be.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 05:30 AM (O7YUW)

27 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 05:30 AM (O7YUW)

Thanks. That's very kind of you. He also makes me laugh - which is important in a relationship ( at least for me) I think.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:33 AM (OYsYV)

28 Good morning you tech oriented early risers or up laters. And Pixy

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 21, 2026 05:34 AM (CUnWa)

29 If I put out a whiteboard sign. "My husband is not a non gestating parent. Happy Father's Day!" Someone would knock over the sign, right?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:38 AM (dSKRp)

30 We had a nice picnic with conservatives at the park yesterday . This year nobody defaced the signs or put rude graffiti up at the entrance to the park. I am glad about that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:40 AM (OYsYV)

31 So I figured out what was obvious to everyone else. My use of ExpressVPN made all the videos on AoS HQ "not available".

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 21, 2026 05:47 AM (4+cmr)

32 G'morning, all!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 05:47 AM (iMotb)

33 My use of ExpressVPN made all the videos on AoS HQ "not available".

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 21, 2026 05:47 AM (4+cmr)
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Sometimes, changing servers under the VPN resolves such issues.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 05:53 AM (3UbC6)

34 G'Day everyone
Happy Father's day toalldadsout there

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 05:53 AM (Ia/+0)

35
Good morning, Hordians. Can't go to church this morning, and maybe not today, because about half my driveway is several inches under water.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 05:54 AM (O0L8i)

36 ...toalldadsout there

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 05:53 AM (Ia/+0)
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I need some space!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 05:54 AM (3UbC6)

37 We had a nice picnic with conservatives at the park yesterday . This year nobody defaced the signs or put rude graffiti up at the entrance to the park. I am glad about that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:40 AM (OYsYV)
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That's so nice to hear! So did we, in fact! 😄

Missed you, VIA. Hope you and the missus can come next time.

Happy Father's Day to all our Hordeling dads. God bless them all.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 05:55 AM (afFes)

38 So the Volvo Intake gasket and various other small parts scheduled to arrive via FedEx between 1100-1500 did not arrive till after 2130 last night. So needles to say, the wagon did not get fixed last night.

BUT....hijinks of the political kind did rear its head yesterday during the leadoff to this Tuesdays run-off election.

I get a text in the middle of the day. And it starts with my name, and goes on to tell me how it is time to support one of the state candidates whom we shall simply call Jenny. And it tells me how she is great for women, supports all the major leftist women's causes, and we need to rally to support her.

But something, from the statements, which go completely against her platform, to the photo, which is a rather unflattering photo all make me suspect that this is an attempt to turn conservatives against her on Tuesday and vote for her opponent.

So I sent her campaign an email with a screenshot of the email that I received, and less than thirty minutes later the actual candidate called me directly, and we talked for over ten minutes.

As I suspected, someone supporting her opponent in the runoff is sending this out, quite possibly in violation of the law.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 05:58 AM (iMotb)

39 Bluebell!


We so wanted to come as well.

Perhaps next year, if we can pull it off.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 05:59 AM (iMotb)

40 Evening and morning to the vast AoSHQ Empire's satellites and satraps, on this first true morning of summer!

I dreamed I was part of a vast evacuation ahead of some apocalyptic event. My boss said,"We need to get you a gun," and we went to the armory. Nobody else was there, but guns kept vanishing from the tables even as I looked. I grabbed a .38 revolver and a box of shells before it disappeared.

Later there was some discussion about restoring medical databases after The Event. "We don't have any programmers for Cameron!" I spoke up and said, "I know it." Someone else complained that the developers had located one table *inside* of another. I explained lucidly how a one-to-many relationship works. (How we had time for this when civilization was about to collapse is beyond me.)

So. Howz yer Sunday morning?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 06:00 AM (wzUl9)

41 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Lime + coconut = drink it all up

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 06:05 AM (amcLV)

42 I don't know why my fingers can't hit space button

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:05 AM (Ia/+0)

43 This morning at least, big black Stirling cat waited until I was nearly awake before leaping across and kicking me. Now he's sitting here on the couch giving me the "I want a lap" look.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 06:06 AM (wzUl9)

44 If you have not been watching Freddy visit and document the US, you're missing some good fun.

https://tinyurl.com/mr3ssaxk

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 06:07 AM (iMotb)

45 Psy is most famous for Gangnum Style:
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I prefer Klingon Style:

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=CayMeza487M

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 06:09 AM (amcLV)

46 If you have not been watching Freddy visit and document the US, you're missing some good fun.

https://tinyurl.com/mr3ssaxk

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 06:07 AM (iMotb)
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OK. Not Elm Street Freddy.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 06:14 AM (3UbC6)

47 Happy Father's Day to all our Hordeling dads. God bless them all.
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 05:55 AM (afFes

Thanks, bluebell . Same to you and your husband as well. Next year I will not have a picnic, nor a service I need to be at on Sunday,, so God willing and the event is still on. I will be there. Thanks to you and all the folks who got things together!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 06:15 AM (6jy2V)

48 I don't know why my fingers can't hit space button

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:05 AM (Ia/+0)
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Were you drinking at the ONT again?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 06:15 AM (3UbC6)

49 Happy Fathers Day!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 06:15 AM (DoBxX)

50 >>> I explained lucidly how a one-to-many relationship works

Collapse: When the Null Hits the Boyce-Codd Normal Fan

Posted by: fluffy at June 21, 2026 06:17 AM (V0/Sp)

51 Good morning! Had a hop up to Kickapoo and back yesterday. Lots of scattered cumulus and a little headwind to deal with but overall a very pleasant excursion. Gotta do pennance today and mow the lawn and do some chores around the house.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 06:17 AM (3Ope8)

52 Good Morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:22 AM (whRlH)

53 @27/FenelonSpoke: "... He also makes me laugh - which is important in a relationship ( at least for me) I think."

Very important. I try to make my wife laugh at least once daily. Sometimes, rarely, I can get the type of laughter where she's giggling so hard she has to sit down on the floor exactly where she is. Big win when that happens. :-)

I also have a regular caution I give her before she heads off to drive for work or errands: "Watch out for stupid out there, it's legion". I'm sure FenSpouse will appreciate that one as well!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 06:24 AM (O7YUW)

54 My mother made the poor choice of feeding laughing gulls.

Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2026 06:30 AM (/Chlc)

55 The MoMeet was excellent. Thanks go to bluebell and Weasel for the organization. The participants were delightful to talk with.

I plan to tell my friends I talked with Bunny. Who is a good conversationalist. I may leave that part out.

After the TxMoMeet, on my return my friends wanted details, because I talklked up the experience before going. I told them I got served bacon by a Bacon Wench and danced with Bunny. There was an imediate silence as they continplated my wayward path.

No bail money was needed yesterday, at least by the time I want. And CBD with a Fed sticker on his back was ... *chef's kiss*.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:32 AM (whRlH)

56 Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:32 AM (whRlH)
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Sounds like everybody was fed.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 06:35 AM (3UbC6)

57 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top of ta mornin to ya, govoner.

You were missed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:35 AM (whRlH)

58 Went to Google this morning. The banner/doodle has something about it being "Indigenous People's Day". Not sure if that's a "Canada only" localization. It might be.

Once again though, Google aligns with the leftists/globalist stance on the nuclear family: Minimize it, ignore it, don't recognize it whatever you do. Jerks.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 06:36 AM (O7YUW)

59 Salty!



Yes, we missed being there as well.

Life has been busy lately, but I suspect that it will slow down here in a bit. Then we can get back to the important things.

Like spending time with friends.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 06:37 AM (iMotb)

60 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,

In the past it was a catered meeting, with good food. This time the local bar and grill sufficed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:38 AM (whRlH)

61 Happy Summer (or for Pixy, Winter) Solstice. It happened a couple of hours ago at 4.24 am EDT.

Summer here in SC is like a bad house guest. Arrives too early and stays too long.

Oh well. You can buy a house here and in 20 years it's worth 30% more.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2026 06:40 AM (qFwJc)

62 Village Idiot's Apprentice

The saga of Freddy the German is amazing. As are a number of other overseas guests that discovered the part of America outside the decaying urban cores.

That is heartwarming.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:41 AM (whRlH)

63 118 days til the TXMoMe

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:43 AM (afJtY)

64 Low 80s all week, I will take that gladly

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:45 AM (Ia/+0)

Posted by: . at June 21, 2026 06:47 AM (sOa7t)

66 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 06:24 AM (O7YUW)

That's great!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 06:48 AM (1Vo6X)

67 {{{Ben Had}}}

You and your circle show true Texas hospitality. Time spent there is incredibly healing. Good people, good times.

One true gift of America is the spontanious formation of groups with a purpose. This is in line with Alexis de Tocqueville's observations noted in Democracy in America (1835)

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:49 AM (whRlH)

68 NaCly, all praise goes to the wonderful Horde.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:52 AM (afJtY)

69 Have a great day, everyone.

May you all be blessed by your company, and travels be safe.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:54 AM (whRlH)

70 I prefer Klingon Style:
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=CayMeza487M
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea

I like the Blue Grass style.
https://tinyurl.com/4k3mk86z

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 21, 2026 06:55 AM (l26NL)

71 Well, more Beelink adventures. When I had all the drives in there, it went into a repair loop. So I pulled out all the drives and rebooted and it went into a proper Windows setup, which froze right around the time I was supposed to pick a PIN. I let it go all night and it was still stuck this morning.

Odd how it wouldn't start with the drives in place. I thought I had formatted them all, but maybe I didn't.

Will try again later. I'll probably end up putting TRUENas on but I figured it'd see what it could do on its own.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2026 06:56 AM (CHHv1)

72 Good morning morons

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 06:56 AM (6h45X)

73 In 118 days I should run away from home

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:58 AM (Ia/+0)

74 Good morning and Happy Father's Day!

Posted by: Merlin Lu at June 21, 2026 07:03 AM (PwgSL)

75 A cup of coffee and a pup in your lap is a simple treat. Pretty warm and humid this morning, and not quite sunrise but the birds are already at the feeders.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 07:04 AM (3Ope8)

76 Iran already saying it is the Toll Booth taker at the Hormuz Dog Leg?
If so the entire operation should be ran like crossing the Atlantic Ocean in 1943, destroy anything to open it.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 07:05 AM (Ia/+0)

77 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 21, 2026 07:12 AM (h0AkI)

78 Here's what we saw on our abbreviated walk: Butterfly weed

https://tinyurl.com/474kk5sy

and black eyed Susan which is one of my favorite flowers? and we just passed a doe and her spotted fawn.

May everyone have a blessed day, and know that you are a blessing to others!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 07:13 AM (m6Eem)

79 Happy Fathers’ day traditional families!
Although we have a beloved non-traditional family that is close to us, I still insist that a 100% varsity grade father should be:
POP = person of pen1s, or:
PPP = person possessing pen1s

( yeah, I’m still reluctant to spell out certain words on social media that is probably subject to snooping)

Posted by: Fenderbender at June 21, 2026 07:14 AM (1FEc1)

80
So. Howz yer Sunday morning?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 06:00 AM (wzUl9)

Wet

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 07:21 AM (O0L8i)

81 @40/Wolfus: "So. Howz yer Sunday morning?"

Sunny, delightfully cool (58 deg F). Humidity is at 93% though so I'd better enjoy the morning before it turns into "warmer and muggier". (Rain/thunderstorms are forecast starting at 2 PM.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 07:29 AM (O7YUW)

82 So. Howz yer Sunday morning?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026
*
Wet
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026

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As I finished my workout and was on the way back to my door, a light sprinkle of rain began to fall. As if we hadn't had enough of that stuff this week.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 07:30 AM (wzUl9)

83 I attended my first MoMe yesterday and was whelmed! Meeting my imaginary friends was one of the finest days of my very long life. Can’t wait to do it again. Don’t cheat yourselves out of an opportunity to attend one.

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:31 AM (z6ONu)

84 Clear and calm here in Cowtown. Well, until I start the mower in a couple of hours.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 07:33 AM (3Ope8)

85 Howz yer Sunday morning?"
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Sunny, delightfully cool (58 deg F). Humidity is at 93% though so I'd better enjoy the morning before it turns into "warmer and muggier". (Rain/thunderstorms are forecast starting at 2 PM.)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026

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I can't remember when I last saw 58 here. In Kansas in April, yes, but here? Maybe in January.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 07:33 AM (wzUl9)

86 Happy Dad's Day.

Mostly sunny and 64F here in Bourbon Country this morning. No chores await (that I'm aware of) so it should be a relaxing day.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 07:37 AM (jehhT)

87 Thanks to Bluebell and Weasel and all the attendees for making me welcome and sharing stories with me. Love you folks very much, and look forward to the next time, God willing.

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:41 AM (z6ONu)

88 Heute ist der langste tag

it's odd that peak summer comes on the first day
it should be in the middle somewhere

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 07:41 AM (sOa7t)

89 it's odd that peak summer comes on the first day
it should be in the middle somewhere
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 07:41 AM (sOa7t)
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No love for July 4th?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 07:47 AM (6h45X)

90 As I finished my workout and was on the way back to my door, a light sprinkle of rain began to fall. "

It's pouring here. I'll send it east to you.

Posted by: man at June 21, 2026 07:50 AM (XuXeR)

91 sure
why

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 07:51 AM (sOa7t)

92 As usual, I read the ONT late.
Since the recent election, I have renamed the “Commonwealth of Virginia” to “Commontrash of Virginia”, at least in my head.

Posted by: Fenderbender at June 21, 2026 07:54 AM (1FEc1)

93 >> it's odd that peak summer comes on the first day
it should be in the middle somewhere

The so-called solar seasons definition does just that. The solstices and equinoxes are the mid-points of each season, with the cross-quarter points being the boundaries.

The problem is what you mean by "peak" summer. Insolation wise, the solar season are the best. But, as for temperature/climate, inertia gives about a 1 month delay between peak insolation and peak "summer weather" (except where it doesn't, and June and Dec are the hottest and coldest). The meteorological seasons are the best match for that. Summer begins June 1st and ends Sept 1.

Astronomical seasons have always been traditional, as it divides the seasons into nice quadrants off the ecliptic.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 08:00 AM (w6EFb)

94 Asked ChatGPT is the NY Times had reported either on Rupert Lowe's Rape scandal report or Tulsi Gabbard's release of the files on Fauci.

Survey says "No."

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 21, 2026 08:01 AM (b4LBp)

95 Miss Linda will make waffles for us later, and possibly eggs, so I'm just having a portion of donut with my coffee. It's a Walmart donut with zebra-striped icing.

House of Strangers w/ Edward G. Robinson and Susan Hayward is on Movies! tonight at 7 Central. Today is Father's Day movies, with Father of the Bride, Father's Little Dividend,, and Cheaper by the Dozen. In real life Clifton Webb might have been queerer than a three-dollar bill, but he was great on film, both in comedy and drama. His dramatic turn in the 1953 Titanic is excellent.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 08:03 AM (wzUl9)

96 damn it was a throwaway comment

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 08:05 AM (sOa7t)

97 It's pouring here. I'll send it east to you.
Posted by: man at June 21, 2026

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I like the look and sound of it, but it doesn't make things any cooler here.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 08:05 AM (wzUl9)

98 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,

In the past it was a catered meeting, with good food. This time the local bar and grill sufficed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:38 AM (whRlH)
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Pun lost. Sigh!

/stovetop coffee in hand to cheer me up

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:06 AM (3UbC6)

99 damn it was a throwaway comment

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 08:05 AM (sOa7t)
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So... dispostable?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:07 AM (3UbC6)

100 m

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:08 AM (3UbC6)

101 I keep mashing F5 looking for the Book thread then realized I'm in Mountain time

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 08:10 AM (6h45X)

102 damn it was a throwaway comment
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Heh Are you new here

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 08:11 AM (6h45X)

103 Pun lost. Sigh!

/stovetop coffee in hand to cheer me up
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:06 AM (3UbC6)
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As an anti-puntite this pleases me

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 08:15 AM (6h45X)

104 And coming up on Wide World of Sports, it's the Pougkeepse Punaphobes vs the Pocatello Punaphiles.

And now a word from our sponsor...

Posted by: Deep Voiced Announcer at June 21, 2026 08:19 AM (VRoVL)

105 And coming up on Wide World of Sports, it's the Pougkeepse Punaphobes vs the Pocatello Punaphiles.

And now a word from our sponsor...

Posted by: Deep Voiced Announcer at June 21, 2026 08:19 AM (VRoVL)
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https://tinyurl.com/3x2zsea4

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:23 AM (3UbC6)

106 - Prayers for the folks out in western part of Kansas.
Straightline winds that hit 100mph a few times.
Attendant rain and hail,,, and dust.
Storm chasers with cracked and broken windshields showed the story.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 21, 2026 08:29 AM (5gyQ/)

107 Worse part of day is over
Grocery shopping

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 08:29 AM (Ia/+0)

108 "All the signs were there. I first read about the deep statesman McMaster in the 2020 book, "The Memo: Twenty Years Inside the Deep State Fighting for America First, by Rich Higgins."

(post 1 of 2)

Sigh. I wonder about my fellow West Pointers sometimes; at some point, you realize that nobody gives a shit about those that aren't glorious failures and/or glorious successes.

I was a tanker and then switched to being a signal puke. You can believe I was an West Point grad or not; I don't particularly care. I wasn't a glorious failure but I never made O4 despite staying in for 12 years; that's a merely being a failure. So keep that in mind when you read the rest.

For example, Pompeo was a West Pointer; he punched out after his 5 year commitment and became a lawyer. Oh, he was a tanker as well. Not a company/troop commander, for what that's worth.

McMaster was also West Pointer. McMaster commanded one of the units that got shot at in Gulf War I (that was him as an O-3 in the battle of 73 Easting). He, too, was a tanker and a company/troop commander.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 21, 2026 08:35 AM (vU0j9)

109 Happy Father's Day, gents..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 08:36 AM (nbLIj)

110 I don't know how well a "perpetual licence" can work for support. For ownership, sure.
Perpetual licence for support smells like slavery.
Also how the hell can company A sell a promise to thousands of people, pocket the money, and then sell the liabilities to company B then bugger off to Bermuda.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 08:48 AM (gKWVE)

111
Sigh. I wonder about my fellow West Pointers sometimes; at some point, you realize that nobody gives a shit about those that aren't glorious failures and/or glorious successes.

Makes you wonder, and the data should be available. What percentage of officers are ring knockers? What percentage of newly-minted officers are? What percentage of officers with X years are?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 08:49 AM (O0L8i)

112 it's the Pougkeepse Punaphobes vs the Pocatello Punaphiles.

Ah yes, the eternal "cougar" debate

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 08:50 AM (gKWVE)

113 Son and family are coming up today from the city. Two granddaughters 8 and 10 will be getting on paddleboards, and I hope to be able to stand on one also. The lake is like glass right now. My balance is not what it was when I was 70. I baked him a loaf of very seedy sourdough bread for Fathers' Day.

Posted by: M. Gaga at June 21, 2026 08:50 AM (zeLd4)

114 Sunrise happens there at about 1:10 in. The Druids blow some damned horn or something. Now, I don't know why they don't put a camera right dead center so they can show the sun rise over the Heel Stone.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
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Today my umbrella begins it's slow trip back to the southern end of the porch as the angle of the sunlight slowly changes for my breakfast each morning.
I don't have a Druid horn though.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 21, 2026 08:51 AM (Lo97M)

115 It amazes me at MoMe's how morons can remember everything. I recognize nics but I can't remember all their comments, yet we have morons that seemingly remember every comment from every nic and can put it all together! Amazing!

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at June 21, 2026 08:55 AM (VCgbV)

116 In Ancient Times
Hundreds of Years before the Dawn of History
Lived a strange race of people, the Druids
No one knows who they were, or what they were doing
But their legacy remains...

Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at June 21, 2026 08:56 AM (PiwSw)

117 I don't know why my fingers can't hit space button
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:05 AM (Ia/+0)

Beenhavingthesameproblemlately.Mustbealiens.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 21, 2026 08:59 AM (5xuJ/)

118 Ah, yes. Father's Day. Ranks just below Arbor Day in the Holiday Popularity rankings.
Here, have another set of drill bits. The cheap ones.

Posted by: Dads everywhere at June 21, 2026 09:03 AM (eDbqp)

119 (post 2 of 2)

Sorry, I'm not sure where this was going.

Some members of the classes 1983, 1982, and 1981 will know who I am, if for no other reason that "Oh, THAT dickhead".

I'm not unknown within my class (1980), but I've removed myself from the class mailing list that West Pointers have due to my providing more heat than light in our discussions there.

To discuss 2 important current West Pointers....

Pompeo and his cabal went to Harvard; that, in and of itself, tells you how he would turn out. The fact that he was able to use the West Point sieve/hammer/flame to produce a posse is worth some analysis. Maybe VDH could provide some insights.

McMaster didn't get hazed by me since he was in the class of 1984. He did appear to have a somewhat privileged life, since he didn't go to a public school prior to getting a West Point slot.

I'm thinking of my classmates; the first class with women in it (some of whom have come clean that they lied about their sexual orientation as part of the initial screening process), the class that had the focus about the cheating scandal from the class of 1976 (despite the lying lesbians referenced earlier).

TMI for this format. Done.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 21, 2026 09:19 AM (vU0j9)

120 'Morning, and Happy Father's Day!

Knew the VAMoMe would be rated nothing less than fabulous, especially given the hosts and weather. 👍

--
P.S. - The musical interlude was just...cruel. (Note this opinion comes from someone who laughed at the local Bloodhound Gang.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 09:20 AM (NFX2v)

121 AMD and Intel have unveiled their new ACE instruction set, which extends AVX vector instructions into matrix calculations.

Will the ACE instruction set be shelved? Will those shelves fall down?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 09:27 AM (l3cgK)

122 "Makes you wonder, and the data should be available. What percentage of officers are ring knockers? What percentage of newly-minted officers are? What percentage of officers with X years are?"

Well, ROTC provides the bulk of new officers; the academies crank out ~1,000 new officers. Army ROTC provides ~5,000
new officers.

The Navy and Air Force have their own numbers. I was neither a squid nor a zoomie, so I don't care about their numbers.

(As a former ground-pounder, I liked being able to think that the think flying above was one of ours. As a former ground-pounder, I'm not sure how any soldier can survive in the modern battlefield. Much less any vehicle.)

Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (vU0j9)

123 Hello it's me, I am also visiting this web site regularly, this
web page is actually pleasant and the people are
genuinely sharing nice thoughts.

Posted by: Metal Roofing at June 21, 2026 10:12 AM (8rrT7)

124 Wonder if Red China has a million Claude subscriptions?
Good way to bankrupt a competitor.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 21, 2026 12:54 PM (Skc+N)

125 always i used to read smaller articles that
also clear their motive, and that is also happening
with this article which I am reading at this place.

Posted by: Commercial Roofing at June 21, 2026 06:16 PM (fFRIG)

126 Re: “RISC philosophy”

I was working in the industry when RISC came up. Even then, no one could agree on exactly what it was.

Initially people associated RISC with simple instructions running at high clock rates. And that was largely true for gen1. Once superscalar & out of order came into the chat, it wasn’t so simple. I spent a lot of time doing high performance machine code for both gen1 & superscalar/OOO.

Posted by: Mike at June 21, 2026 09:58 PM (bWB2b)

Saturday Night Club ONT - June 20, 2026 [D Squared]

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Welcome to Club ONT - a collaboration of The Disco and The Dino. We built this place for you so you can have some fun. Come in in, grab a drink or 3. Keep it light and friendly. Jerks need not enter the premises (the moose out front is keeping watch).

[Top photo: The first NoVa MoMe since the election of Virginia Governor Spanberger took place today. The state was on alert!]

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Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies

Randy, the painter, often thinned his paint to make it go further. The Baptist Church decided to restore its biggest building. Randy put in a low bid and got the job. He bought the paint, and thinned it with turpentine. Well, Randy was painting away, the job nearly completed, when suddenly there was a clap of thunder. The sky opened, and the rain poured down. It washed the thinned paint off the church. Randy fell from the scaffold, landing among the gravestones. He was no fool. He knew this was a judgment from the Almighty.

Randy raised his voice to the heavens, crying, "Oh, God, forgive me; what should I do?"

And from above, a mighty voice roared: “Repaint! Repaint! And thin no more!"

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O'Brien lived alone in the Irish countryside for many years, with just his dog for company.

One day, the dog died, and O'Brien went to see Father Mullaney, the parish priest.

"Father, me darlin' pup has passed on. I was wonderin', could ya be sayin' a mass for the poor creature?"

"Ah, I'm afraid not, we can't be havin' services for an animal in the church. But there's a few Baptists down the road and there's no tellin' what they're believin' in. Maybe they'll do somethin' for the poor creature."

"I'll be headin' off straight away, Father. Do ye think five grand would be enough to donate for the service?"

"Sweet Mary, mother o' Jesus! Why didn't ye tell me the dog was a bleedin' Catholic?"


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Drink of the Night

We have arrived at the sevens in our deck of playing card cocktails. Tonight we feature the 7 of hearts

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Club ONT Department of MoMe Reflections

As mentioned above, the 2026 NoVa MoMe took place today. Yuuuuuuge thanks to bluebell and Weasel for organizing another fun gathering! (Despite the official title "WeaselBell Productions", notice that we here at Club ONT know full well who to mention first when discussing the respective members of said team).

For the most part, the event went off as planned. JJ Sefton wasn't in attendance, but he used the weather machine to dial up perfect weather for us! Several NoVa MoMe veterans were in attendance, and we also had a few new folks

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Always good to see new faces at a MoMe! If you've never attended one, we implore you to do so at the next opportunity! Seriously, even those of you who are shy or akward - or even ugly and stinky - we want you there! You can sit in a corner or behind a flowerpot wearing a "Lurker" name tag and just observe the event. Weasel himself pretty much just sits off to the side watching. If he can do it, so can you. C'mon - just go!

As for today, there were a couple of things worth noting.

First off - a person of questionable attire showed up. Khakis, dark colored polo shirt, and sunglasses. Someone (you know who you are!) stuck a warning label on his back. And we were VERY careful what we said around him.

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Secondly - this one is quite puzzling. We do not quite know what happened here.

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The most plausible explanation is that our good friend Piper - who you may recall succumbed to a tumor a few weeks ago - was reincarnated as a doggeh and made it to the MoMe today. No further information is available as of yet. We will keep you posted.


So -- will we be seeing you in Texas in October for TxMoMe XI???

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Club ONT Speaker Check Service

Volume up. Just making sure the speakers on your device are operating properly.

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Club ONT Department of Signs of the Apocalypse

Porsche Looked at Hyundai and Said, "We'll Have What They're Having"

The 2027 Taycan gets fake gear shifts, fake noise, and a feature Porsche quietly borrowed from Hyundai.

On Wednesday, the 2027 Porsche Taycan debuted with fake gear shifts and as the German automaker put it, "more emotive electric sport sound."

The fake gear shifts are being dubbed "virtual gears" with the feature known as E-Shift, according to Porsche. It's an option on all 2027 Taycan models, though it's standard on the Turbo GT trim, and will deliver a "perceptible shift motion," according to the automaker.

Taycans already had fake noise, but now Porsche said the system, which uses speakers to pump fake noise into the world just like Hyundai's does, has been "reinterpreted," according to the automaker. It's also officially called Porsche Electric Sport Sound. Dangerously close to sport exhaust.

Porsche also added a virtual rev counter to the 2027 Taycan to count the fake revs from the fake transmission.

Tell me you've lost your way without telling me you've lost your way.

Content cleanse with this:

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Club ONT Department of Wrestling History

The June 16, 1984, episode of Piper's Pit would go down in history as the start of something huge: the Rock 'n Roll Connection. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper interviewed pop star Cyndi Lauper, Captain Lou Albano crashed the conversation, and chaos ensued!

We know what you're thinking. "If only Mattel would make a trio of collectible figures to commemorate such a significant cultural moment in time..." Well, we have news for you.

A new 3 pack of action figures will make their debut at San Diego Comic-Con next month! Each is 6.5 inches tall. How much you ask? Only $80! What a bargain! If that's not enough, the Lauper figure comes with an interchangeable head and two extra pairs of hands.

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Club ONT Department of Disturbing Food

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I Ate Blue Hot Dogs For You People, Are You Not Entertained?

The TikToker @itsmeju1iette is dedicated to trolling food internet at an exceptionally well-executed level. Juliette does things like create meat cereal in the style of Froot Loops, uses her dog's actual paws to make paw print cookies, and fills the frunk (front trunk) of a Tesla completely with tiramisu (unfortunately, commercially-made meat cereal does exist, and we once tried it).

One of her videos from a few years back is a simple one showing her cooking hot dogs in Gatorade, which turns them a remarkable blue color. Could this actually happen? Gatorade needs no introduction, but in my mind, the drink wouldn't impart that much color to a hot dog - or would it?

The verdict:

Interestingly enough, the Gatorade only colored the surface of the dog, and the Fierce Grape flavor was subtle. But it was there all right, though it was very faint. The meaty savoriness of the all-beef hot dog did the heavy lifting, and for something this strange-looking, it didn't taste as atrocious as it appeared.


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Club ONT Jukebox

It's almost officially summer!


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Club ONT thanks you for your support! Unlike our regular patrons, there are some who have not yet fully committed to their Chung Wanging.

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1 Gsr

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 10:00 PM (kOluj)

2 Hola

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3 'Sup D-squared?

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 10:01 PM (kOluj)

4 Gee! I wish someone had told me there would be an ONT tonight. I wouldn't have missed it.

Um… or something.

Hullo.

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5 You know that Fed was Dildo, right?

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6 Good evening good people.

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7 (presses nose to window, looks in from the outside)

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8 Art!

Posted by: Sandy at June 20, 2026 10:04 PM (6/7Fs)

9 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:05 PM (Hpgos)

10 We can shapeshift in the after life, you know. I looked AMAZING as a doggie.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:05 PM (OoFl2)

11 I saw Fierce Grape Flavor open for They Must Be Giants at The Troubadour in '86.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:07 PM (6/7Fs)

12 9 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:05 PM
***
We missed you! (but waved from across the river)

Posted by: TRex - Club ONT coat check dino at June 20, 2026 10:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

13 I remember getting Summer In The City on the KHJ Radio promotional album in the 60's. See also, Polk Salad Annie.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:09 PM (6/7Fs)

14 See also, Venus.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:10 PM (6/7Fs)

15 We can shapeshift in the after life, you know. I looked AMAZING as a doggie.
Posted by: Piper
*****
But your personality is more like Ravioli, a golden retriever/poodle who was the friendliest, most enthusiastic doggo and want to say hi to everyone!

Missed you, try coming to one of these in the future...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

16 After debating it fully I have decided that yes, indeed, I will Wang Chung tonight.

https://tinyurl.com/3uwzzrx3

Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (6mVIs)

17 Thanks for the dandy Saturday Night Club ONT, D Squared!

And thanks for the reporting on the NoVaMoMe! We ALL wish we could have been there today.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (D/6p1)

18 "Porsche also added a virtual rev counter to the 2027 Taycan to count the fake revs from the fake transmission.

Tell me you've lost your way without telling me you've lost your way."

I hate that crap. Fake and gay.

#2 son and I went on a little road rally today, in a 1965 Spitfire. The sounds and smells are all real, not like that fake teutonic twaddle. Everybody loves that car. Park it next to a Porsche SUV and guess what gets the attention.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (vFG9F)

19 14

She's got it,
Oh baby, she's got it.
I'm your Venus
I'm your fire

That Venus?

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (RCjYY)

20 See also, Going Up the Country.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (6/7Fs)

21 Porsche has lost there way. Dumb business decisions mostly. So much so, they are pulling out of sportscar racing at the prototype level. So, no Porsche racing for the overall win at LeMans next year. Not sure if they'll be in IMSA next season or not either.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (Hpgos)

22 That Venus?
Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (RCjYY)

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Shocking Blue's best effort.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:13 PM (6/7Fs)

23 If your weiner looks like that it's too late for a shot.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:13 PM (vFG9F)

24 15 We can shapeshift in the after life, you know. I looked AMAZING as a doggie.
Posted by: Piper
*****
But your personality is more like Ravioli, a golden retriever/poodle who was the friendliest, most enthusiastic doggo and want to say hi to everyone!

Missed you, try coming to one of these in the future...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

I need to do that, life keeps getting in the way. I had to go to MD a few weeks ago for my uncle’s funeral and I can only get away from the studio so much. The downside to owning your own business is actually less flexibility! I don’t even know if I will make it (again) on our family vacation, at least not the full time. Boo hiss.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:14 PM (OoFl2)

25 23 If your weiner looks like that it's too late for a shot.
Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:13 PM (vFG9F)

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Big Mike would respectfully disagree.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:16 PM (6/7Fs)

26 Evenin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:17 PM (77rzZ)

27 Top 10ish Comments of the Week — as always, nothing I contribute is of that honorable status. Whew!😥

Well, maybe I'll again make the much more honorable roll of top sock-er players. Socket puppets. Whaaatever.⚽

Posted by: mindful webworker - soccer it to me? -Dick Nixon at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (9bb3y)

28 If your weiner looks like that it's too late for a shot.
Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:13 PM (vFG9F)

"No need cut it off. It fall off by self in two, three day!"

Posted by: Just The Punchline at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (bhZyo)

29 And Ravioli is the best name ever.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (OoFl2)

30 Evening, Double D's, and ONT Horde! I would like to see F104 Starfighters do the same launch maneuvers those F22's did. I remember seeing the CF104's at an airshow at CFB Cold Lake, and those suckers were LOUD. And they could sit on their ass and fly straight up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (1z8ji)

31 12 9 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:05 PM
***
We missed you! (but waved from across the river)
Posted by: TRex


I work on the NoVA side of the Potomac, so probably on the same side. I waved while driving in. Got flipped off. Probably not a moron.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:19 PM (Hpgos)

32 *waves to Bulg and Piper*

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 10:19 PM (ZHOnm)

33
The downside to owning your own business is actually less flexibility!

How can you take any time off at all without shutting down?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (Cqx++)

34 "Rowdy" Roddy Piper interviewed pop star Cyndi Lauper, Captain Lou Albano crashed the conversation, and chaos ensued!

Would I lose my barely-accepted Moron status if I confess that I have know idea what this is about, much less why Cyndi Lauper should have interchangeable heads?

Posted by: mindful webworker - do what now? at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (9bb3y)

35 31 Evening, Double D's, and ONT Horde! I would like to see F104 Starfighters do the same launch maneuvers those F22's did. I remember seeing the CF104's at an airshow at CFB Cold Lake, and those suckers were LOUD. And they could sit on their ass and fly straight up.

---------

They called it Widowmaker for a reason.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (6/7Fs)

36 Somebody cranky needs a timeout.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (vFG9F)

37 I have come here today to chew bubblegum...

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 10:21 PM (RCjYY)

38 We can shapeshift in the after life, you know. I looked AMAZING as a doggie.
Posted by: Piper
*****
But your personality is more like Ravioli, a golden retriever/poodle who was the friendliest, most enthusiastic doggo and want to say hi to everyone!

Missed you, try coming to one of these in the future...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

I need to do that, life keeps getting in the way. I had to go to MD a few weeks ago for my uncle’s funeral and I can only get away from the studio so much. The downside to owning your own business is actually less flexibility! I don’t even know if I will make it (again) on our family vacation, at least not the full time. Boo hiss.
Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:14 PM (OoFl2)

My first thought was that Saijo and your cats had recruited a local dog to see if they were safe enough for you to meet.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:21 PM (qx7Zg)

39 And Ravioli is the best name ever.
Posted by: Piper
*********
You would have loved him Piper. He was so earnest and happy and loveable. Determined to meet and greet everyone!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:22 PM (IQ6Gq)

40 Yeah, that Fed guy at the MoMe was creepy. He professes to know art.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:23 PM (77rzZ)

41 Had a great time at my first MoMe today, and the pre-session yesterday afternoon - wonderful company all around. And Bluebell and I found out it's a small world indeed - Bluebell, if you're here tonight, my brother was very humbled and sends blessings.

Posted by: Patches at June 20, 2026 10:23 PM (88s3w)

42 Except for lauper they're all dead


Am im out of bubble gum too

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:23 PM (bXbFr)

43 I thought it said crab cocktail...
Dammit! Where are my damn glasses...and where is my cocktail?!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (uTEOj)

44 If I could shape shift it would not be into a dog. Perhaps a rhino or elephant, or maybe even a dinosaur!

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (vFG9F)

45
T - 6 hours to solstice. Astronomical summer begins, and the days starting getting shorter. Astronomical spring 2026 will clock in at 92 days, 17 hours, and 38 minutes.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (w6EFb)

46 Wearing the splc designer duds

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (bXbFr)

47 32 Hey, SMH!

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (77rzZ)

48 She's got it,
Oh baby, she's got it.
I'm your Venus
I'm your fire

That Venus?
Posted by: mnw

I'd wager that, instead, it was

Venus if you will
Please send a little girl for me to thrill
A girl with all your kisses and your charms
A girl without arms like you…♥♥♥

Posted by: mindful webworker - surely the things I ask can't be that great a ta-au-ah-ah-ah ah -ask at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (9bb3y)

49 The yellow sign in the top photo should appear on all exits in the Richmond area leading to the Virginia state capitol and executive offices.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (qx7Zg)

50 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ItpVy)

51 Helluva coincidence.

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: New Hampshire’s first transgender elected Rep., Stacie Laughton (D), sentenced to 33 YEARS in prison for the s*xual exploitation of children.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ndZc7)

52 >>> Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (qFwJc)

Da fuq?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2026 10:27 PM (R+iUD)

53 You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:27 PM (bXbFr)

54 Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (vFG9F)

I think it's happened.
I have no real idea what came over that guy, but I'll try stepping carefully in future.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 10:27 PM (gKWVE)

55 SMH, the Horde mafia is pressuring me to attend the Texas MoMe, so maybe I will see you there.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:28 PM (77rzZ)

56 See also, Going Up the Country.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (6/7Fs)

Which Canned Heat shamelessly stole, and faithfully copied, from Henry Thomas, a Texas blues man, who recorded it in 1928. Henry used an instrument called a "quill" worn on a neck brace, for the pipe part. Henry Thomas had a very haunting timbre to his voice.

Here is Henry's original of the song:

https://youtu.be/DTi6Z6qALwY

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:28 PM (1z8ji)

57 53 You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:27 PM (bXbFr)

I have signed an NDA. Sorry.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:28 PM (OoFl2)

58 Some one whizzed in his wheaties

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:28 PM (bXbFr)

59 Boy, if anybody else had said this, it'd be a hate crime.

The first openly transgender person elected to a US state legislature has been sentenced to 33 years in prison for child sexual exploitation.
Stacie Marie Laughton's defense had argued for a lower sentence on the basis of his possible "retardation."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (ndZc7)

60 From the web:

Two clowns are eating a cannibal.

One turns to the other and says, "I think we got this joke wrong"

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (qx7Zg)

61 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete

Just don't leave a box of them on the back seat of your car.

Someone's likely to break the window and leave another box.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (VHUov)

62 50 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10

And then viral in 23 TikTok’s from nest video.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (OoFl2)

63 >>> 50 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ItpVy)

I thought you were supposed to drop them on the driver's seat of their cars wherever possible.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (R+iUD)

64
Spring 2026 clocked in a little short this time, about and hour and a half less than average.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:30 PM (w6EFb)

65 Hey, Piper.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:30 PM (77rzZ)

66 They called it Widowmaker for a reason.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (6/7Fs)

Mostly because the 104 was a high-altitude interceptor, forced into a ground-attack role, for which it was very ill-suited.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (1z8ji)

67 "You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right
Posted by: Miguel cervantes"

I don't know it was so tightly regulated. I would just shape shift into a small dinosaur then.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (vFG9F)

68 So I had this gigantic oak tree removed today, it was very close to the house and we had a near miss a couple of weeks ago so it had to go.

The crew were all young Pennsylvania good old boys, very pleasant and professional.

They all smoked and had butt's hanging out of their mouths the whole time.

Which oddly, was very reassurring.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (XV/Pl)

69 Wth is wrong with people a continuing series

Mutant hot dogs?

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (bXbFr)

70 Saijo just brought me his cookie. He is so sweet. Or goofy. Or both.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (OoFl2)

71 life keeps getting in the way. I had to go to… my uncle’s funeral…
Posted by: Piper

Eau de irony. Magnified by your own tragic demise.😀

Posted by: mindful webworker - death as a part of life, it's true at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (9bb3y)

72 Hi SMH!

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (OoFl2)

73 50 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ItpVy)

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You can also attend a WNBA game and toss them out in the court in the middle of play.

Just a thought.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:32 PM (6/7Fs)

74 Wang chung is best known for the suund teack to live and doe in la

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (bXbFr)

75 Spring 2026 clocked in a little short this time, about and hour and a half less than average.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:30 PM (w6EFb)

Somebody didn't wind Spring's spring quite tight enough this year, I guess.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (qx7Zg)

76 @53

>>You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right

Well, it depends on the needs of the story and if it's coherent within the rules that are set up.

Or you could be Terry Gilliam and don't give a sh*t about such things as coherence.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (XV/Pl)

77 I want to thank all of the Hordelings that I talked to today. You all cheered me up after my sister’s passing.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (77rzZ)

78 Apparently, Trump is going to steal an airplane.

Chris Murphy
@ChrisMurphyCT
The plan is for this plane to be in service for two years and then Trump will take if for himself. No President has ever stolen an Air Force for himself.
And you paid for it. The total cost could be $1 billion of your money for a new luxury jet for Trump and his family.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (ndZc7)

79 Sound track

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:34 PM (bXbFr)

80 Yeah there is that

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:34 PM (bXbFr)

81 BREAKING: New Hampshire’s first transgender elected Rep., Stacie Laughton (D), sentenced to 33 YEARS in prison for the s*xual exploitation of children.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ndZc7)

Pity New Hampshire is too poor to be able to afford a gas chamber.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:34 PM (1z8ji)

82 SMH, the Horde mafia is pressuring me to attend the Texas MoMe, so maybe I will see you there.
Posted by: Bulg
___

We're hoping to be there too, but this buying a house put a huge dent in our savings (closing costs), and Ex-ex is looking for a new job, since commuting 2 hours each way is not an option.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 10:35 PM (ZHOnm)

83 The plan is for this plane to be in service for two years and then Trump will take if for himself. No President has ever stolen an Air Force for himself.
And you paid for it. The total cost could be $1 billion of your money for a new luxury jet for Trump and his family.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (ndZc7)

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Why, this is an outrage.




Beef jerky?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:35 PM (6/7Fs)

84 Why, this is an outrage.




Beef jerky?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:35 PM (6/7Fs)



Is anything ever inrageous?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:37 PM (1z8ji)

85 We're hoping to be there too, but this buying a house put a huge dent in our savings (closing costs), and Ex-ex is looking for a new job, since commuting 2 hours each way is not an option.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 10:35 PM (ZHOnm)

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A two-hour commute? Pfft.

I used to do that in my sleep.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:37 PM (6/7Fs)

86 82 SMH, may God lead us to the MoMes as He sees fit.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:37 PM (77rzZ)

87 Only when youre whelmed

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:38 PM (bXbFr)

88 Or gruntled

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:38 PM (bXbFr)

89 You can also attend a WNBA game and toss them out in the court in the middle of play.

Just a thought.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:32 PM (6/7Fs)

Does he get bonus points if he gets the zucchini to land on a player's head without breaking?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:38 PM (qx7Zg)

90 You know what that hot dog looks like, don’t you?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 10:38 PM (ZVgZ4)

91 33
The downside to owning your own business is actually less flexibility!

How can you take any time off at all without shutting down?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2026 10:20

I have employees, but I teach a lot on week days. so covering all of my classes is hard. I only teach a few weekends, weekend get aways are easiest. I would have to do a modified schedule if I left for the whole week, and I hate to do that to clients. I may just for 1/2 the week or something.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:39 PM (OoFl2)

92 Climbing fighters. Once upon a time, I was at an F-4 Phantom base, when I spotted a visiting F-16 getting ready to take off. This was early in the F-16's career, so seeing one was notable.

The F-16 took off and immediately stood on its tail and climbed straight up. What was amusing was what happened next.

Next to take off were three Phantoms. For those unfamiliar, the Phantom was a big, heavy airplane, especially compared to the F-16. Each Phantom rolled down the runway, lifted off, tried to go vertical for a split second, and immediately gave up the attempt.

I imagine there was much grunting of frustration and the grinding of teeth in the cockpits.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 20, 2026 10:40 PM (bhZyo)

93 Is anything ever inrageous?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

We keep that to ourselves.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 10:40 PM (VHUov)

94 Hi Bulg!

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:42 PM (pZEOD)

95 I used to do that in my sleep.
Posted by: Cicero

Hey! If you don't like the way I drive, stay off of the sidewalk!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:43 PM (ItpVy)

96 Just think of all the Air Force Ones Trump could buy with the fraud money that Tim Walz handed out to Somali Learing Centers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:43 PM (6/7Fs)

97 Happy Saturday Horde!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (0nHVk)

98 84 AOP, only that stuff that is instanding.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (77rzZ)

99 Howdy, horde! Thanks for Club ONT, double-D's!

I wouldn't mind if a couple of zucchini were left on my porch once in a while. They want $1.99/lb at the grocery. Insane!

Last time I grew them, one plant got hit by vine-borers & died. The other was okay until I skipped watering... and it died. But that's okay, we got quite a few. And no-- we *asked* neighbors if they wanted any-- didn't just dump surprises on them.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (rdVOm)

100 Is anything ever inrageous?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

We keep that to ourselves.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 10:40 PM (VHUov)

At least until the head explodes or lava starts to leak.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (qx7Zg)

101 The F4 was the test case for the theory that, if you put enough thrust behind it, you could make a brick fly.

Posted by: clarence at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (I5lp2)

102 100?

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 10:45 PM (XqvXS)

103 97 Hey, DDS!

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:45 PM (77rzZ)

104 97 Happy Saturday Horde!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (0nHVk)

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*checks clipboard*

Line on the left. One cross each.

Posted by: Centurion #4 at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (6/7Fs)

105 Missed it by that much. :-)

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (XqvXS)

106 63 Helena

"I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini today."

For you, then, "The Zucchini Song"!

"Ohhh! What a beauty,
I never saw one as large as that before!
Ohhh! What a beauty,
It must be 2 foot long or maybe more!"

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (RCjYY)

107 You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right
Posted by: Miguel cervantes

Still a great superpower. I'd be constantly shapeshifted into me, except super ripped.

Posted by: mikeski asks, "Bro, do you even shift?" at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (VHUov)

108 97 Happy Saturday Horde!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM
***
You're earlier than usual!

Posted by: TRex - tick tock dino at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (IQ6Gq)

109 Saw something passing strange this afternoon, as I was packing up tools in the shop. A steady stream of traffic on the E-W grid road, just south of my place, that leads to town. One car, or pickup, after another. Then a pause, and another whole batch. This road never gets traffic like that. All I can think of is that the paved highway 2 miles south of here had a wreck or some other closure, and traffic was detoured to the grid road.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:47 PM (1z8ji)

110 Hi, Debby!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:47 PM (rdVOm)

111 Happy Saturday Horde!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
***********
Wow, this is a treat...either I am way past my bedtime or you are early, cause we are never on here at the same time....but great to see you in real time!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:49 PM (IQ6Gq)

112 Oh sure. F-22s and unlimited climb outs.
Pppfffttt.
*yawns*
Now. Roll a battalion of tanks across that airport and now you got something exciting!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 10:50 PM (2WIwB)

113 And no-- we *asked* neighbors if they wanted any-- didn't just dump surprises on them.
Posted by: JQ

Clearly you are not of Italian-American heritage.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:51 PM (ItpVy)

114 Bluebell made a good point to me today when I mentioned the recent death of my sister, after which I was tending to withdraw within myself.

She mentioned that the Horde is a family, of sorts, unto itself. And I fully agree with her in this. Thank you all, for being my Internet family, and for getting me out today.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:52 PM (77rzZ)

115 112 Now. Roll a battalion of tanks across that airport and now you got something exciting!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 10:50 PM
***
That's tankdemon's department and he's late. We don't know why.

Posted by: TRex - sherman dino at June 20, 2026 10:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

116 Which one of you morons is going to set up the hotdog cart outside a WNBA game, break out the green Gator-Aid, and have some fun?

Extra points if your hotdog cart has a sign:

The Green Dildo (don't play with your food)

Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2026 10:53 PM (dIske)

117 Clearly you are not of Italian-American heritage.
Posted by: Tonypete

LOL, true.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:53 PM (rdVOm)

118 >> Somebody didn't wind Spring's spring quite tight enough this year, I guess.

Blame the Moon. That's the biggest driver of the variation in exact apparent season timing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:53 PM (w6EFb)

119 114 Bluebell made a good point to me today when I mentioned the recent death of my sister, after which I was tending to withdraw within myself.

She mentioned that the Horde is a family, of sorts, unto itself. And I fully agree with her in this. Thank you all, for being my Internet family, and for getting me out today.
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:52 PM (77rzZ)

And we all know who the weird uncle is….🤣

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:54 PM (pZEOD)

120 …I have know idea what this is about, much less why Cyndi Lauper should have interchangeable heads?

Hair color, maybe?

I actually enjoy Cyndi Lauper’s albums quite a bit. But Lauper herself always reminds me of the singer from Eraserhead. Of which I was recently reminded while watching horde-adjacent movie material.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 10:54 PM (kYmoU)

121 I am here earlier than usual I am attempting a biological reset, earlier to bed, so far I am batting about 180, much room for improvement. I stopped by the candle making thread for a while, very interesting TRex, I have an old fashioned candle mold in my back hall, it is full of American flags.

JQ, good to see you, a Chivas if you will please.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 10:54 PM (0nHVk)

122 Now. Roll a battalion of tanks across that airport and now you got something exciting!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 10:50 PM
***
That's tankdemon's department and he's late. We don't know why.
Posted by: TRex - sherman dino
***********
YET! I have faith he will report in....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

123 Bulg
We are a family.
Bluebell is kinda like mom.
So stay out of my stuff or I'm telling mom!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 10:56 PM (2WIwB)

124 *Chivas for Debby*

*A round for The Horde*

Cheers!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:56 PM (rdVOm)

125 119 And You, Young Lady, will be confined to the attic until further notice. 🙂

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:57 PM (77rzZ)

126 JQ, thanks for the drink...I hope it's a much better day for you today....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

127
There's a Bob Segar song with something about "Blame it on the Moon", IIRC.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:58 PM (w6EFb)

128 She mentioned that the Horde is a family, of sorts, unto itself. And I fully agree with her in this. Thank you all, for being my Internet family, and for getting me out today.
Posted by: Bulg

And we all know who the weird uncle is….🤣
Posted by: Piper

I'm wondering who (among the 'Rons) it isn't.....

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 10:58 PM (VHUov)

129 There's a Bob Segar song with something about "Blame it on the Moon", IIRC.

Shame on you for misremembering lyrics.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 10:59 PM (kYmoU)

130 She mentioned that the Horde is a family, of sorts, unto itself. And I fully agree with her in this. Thank you all, for being my Internet family, and for getting me out today.

---------

Just don't ask for a loan and we'll be fine, ummkay?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (6/7Fs)

131 The normal member of a weird family is the weird one of the bunch.

Posted by: Marilyn Munster at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (Q+gd/)

132 Was stationed at Lakenheath. Those are Langley F-22's.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (Yw4Qw)

133 >>I am here earlier than usual I am attempting a biological reset, earlier to bed, so far I am batting about 180, much room for improvement.

Same here, Debby! It's too darned hot here by noon, so yard work needs to be done very early. And then lunch with hubby (because he sundowns in the afternoon and that's hard for me to handle) so, I need to get going much sooner than I have been doing. Ugh. Never was a "morning person" even when the job demanded it.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (rdVOm)

134 123 Does Mom know that you steal from the geezers?

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (77rzZ)

135 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW0FgLGKa4U

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 20, 2026 11:02 PM (Skc+N)

136 Thanks, Grateful! Today has been much better!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:03 PM (rdVOm)

137 127
There's a Bob Segar song with something about "Blame it on the Moon", IIRC.
Posted by: publius


youtu.be/AOcDyBS7T1U

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 11:03 PM (Hpgos)

138 Got my muffler job mostly finished today. The tailpipe and U-bend over the axle is one welded unit, but it is clamped into the muffler, which in turn is clamped to the exhaust pipe. Those joints are separable, should the need arise.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 11:04 PM (1z8ji)

139 Last time I grew them, one plant got hit by vine-borers & died. The other was okay until I skipped watering... and it died...
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (rdVOm)

But the third one...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 11:05 PM (nbLIj)

140 Hot & breezy here today, so I flattened out a wadded-up tarp that had covered lawn tractor over winter, (It was covered with bird poop) and hosed it off.

One person vs. 16 x 24 tarp, in the wind... had to pin down the corners with lawn chairs before spraying off. LOL! It'll be dry by tomorrow and hopefully not so windy while I re-fold it.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:08 PM (rdVOm)

141 But the third one...
Posted by: Joe Kidd

Alas, there was no third one.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:09 PM (rdVOm)

142 Grateful, it is so very nice to see you!

Piper, I waded into something that I shouldn't have last night. I was oblivious to any prior history, thank you for being the classy person that you are, I meant no offense to you.

Bulg, get you butt to Texas, you will have a great time, meet some more of your family.

Thanks JQ, that was delish, might I trouble you for another before bed.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 11:10 PM (0nHVk)

143 I am off to bed, y’all have a great night!

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 11:10 PM (p4NUW)

144
I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete

=============

::seething with jealousy::

Not that I'm not a neighbor, but that you're able to grow zucchini.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 11:11 PM (XJ22o)

145 Evening shading into night, people. We just watched the 1946 color film of The Yearling w/ Gregory Peck and Jane Wyman, and with small roles for Chill Wills (you'd never recognize him -- he was slim!), Forrest Tucker, and June Lockhart, who has all of one line. A charming coming-of-age story for the 12-year-old boy, Jody, who wants a pet and adopts a fawn whose mother has died.

Peck is sort of miscast as a farmer in 1870s Florida, but Jane Wyman absolutely nails her role as the non-demonstrative and no-nonsense, but loving, mother.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:11 PM (wzUl9)

146 There's a Bob Segar song with something about "Blame it on the Moon", IIRC.

***
I thought we were supposed to blame it on Rio. You know, that girl who dances on the sand.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:13 PM (wzUl9)

147 Hey Wolfus, every time I land on an episode of House Hunters I half expect it be you looking for a nice little place in Indiana.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 11:14 PM (0nHVk)

148 Not that I'm not a neighbor, but that you're able to grow zucchini.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 11:11 PM (XJ22o)

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Have you tried burying a dead fish where you plant the seeds?

Posted by: Squanto at June 20, 2026 11:14 PM (6/7Fs)

149 Hi y’all!

Pretty crazy on the beach. Sunny and 65.

So. Many. Tourists. Cruise ships just left port, three of them. USA vs AUS yesterday and the BoSox in town. I’ve never seen so many Star Spangled Benners flying and USA soccer jerseys and happy people.

Not a fag flag in sight. Serious. It’s spooky.

Almost like Seattle has an excuse to fly their red white and blue and not be harassed by the freak show haters. I’m stunned.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 11:15 PM (A5RD0)

150 Hey Wolfus, every time I land on an episode of House Hunters I half expect it be you looking for a nice little place in Indiana.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026

***
They would probably laugh at how low my budget is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:16 PM (wzUl9)

151 >> blame it on Rio.

https://t.ly/FxbI-

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:17 PM (w6EFb)

152
Yes, it's blame it on midnight, and shame on the Moon.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:18 PM (w6EFb)

153 Hey Wolfus, every time I land on an episode of House Hunters I half expect it be you looking for a nice little place in Indiana.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026

***
They would probably laugh at how low my budget is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:16 PM (wzUl9)

Don't they focus on couples, like an influencer and a day care center owner with a $5 million budget?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 11:18 PM (qx7Zg)

154 *another Chivas for Debby*

You know, I'll have another beverage too. Couldn't sleep last night, slept late this morning... ugh. Get so tired of fighting it! Maybe can just knock myself out? No, not worth the hangover.

Tomorrow is Fathers' Day, and surely stepson will call while I'm with hubby. Don't want to be all messed up then! I'll saute a lobster tail (cut-up) to bring with me at lunch. Good thing the place is nearby.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:19 PM (rdVOm)

155 Club ONT Jukebox
It's almost officially summer!

Bonus tracks!

https://youtu.be/7NJ_nzOckOQ
https://youtu.be/Z2ys-mE9NNA
https://youtu.be/8epnNzRSUdI
https://youtu.be/2Hoehsoj5xk
https://youtu.be/HVBE0cvDukE

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 11:20 PM (VHUov)

156 Technology is not my friend tonight. Ah well, I guess that's why they make tomorrows.

G'night. Too bad I couldn't be a the MoMe.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 20, 2026 11:21 PM (CHHv1)

157 About time for me to shuffle off to Pillow World. Chance or rain early tomorrow is low. I plan to work out before dawn and before breakfast -- which will be light. Miss Linda is going to make waffles a little later to use up the last of the batter she whipped up earlier this week.

Tomorrow night I plan to sit up late and have a late snack about 10:30 or 11:00. Reason? Monday at 8 am I have to have blood drawn, so no food or coffee after midnight. They usually get to me fast, so I should be able to zip to my favorite diner for food and black juice soon after.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:21 PM (wzUl9)

158 Hey Wolfus, every time I land on an episode of House Hunters I half expect it be you looking for a nice little place in Indiana.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

They would probably laugh at how low my budget is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Don't they focus on couples, like an influencer and a day care center owner with a $5 million budget?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

"I'm a butterfly therapist and my husband is a stay-at-home astronaut. Our budget is 1.2 million."

Posted by: the meme about that at June 20, 2026 11:22 PM (VHUov)

159
Then there's this, Away Rio. We're bound for the Rio Grande:

https://t.ly/8gQNd

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:23 PM (w6EFb)

160 https://youtu.be/eGY7Catuhq0

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:23 PM (rdVOm)

161 Yes, it's blame it on midnight, and shame on the Moon.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:18 PM (w6EFb)

I used to always be the scapegoat, but time has passed me by.

Posted by: The Bossa Nova at June 20, 2026 11:29 PM (1z8ji)

162 Thanks for the sky and seasons info, publius. I'm enjoying observing the heavens, day and night, spending more time outside than I used to.

Happy Summer, everyone! I'm taking a vacation from internetland. See you around the autumnal equinox? :-)

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 11:29 PM (XqvXS)

163 A Doberman and a German Shepherd are in the waiting room at the vet.

German Shepherd: Why are you here?
Doberman: I chewed up the mailman. At first he was demanding I be put down, but my owner got him to agree to just have me castrated. Why are you here?
German Shepherd: The lady who owns me came out of the shower and dropped the shampoo bottle. It rolled behind the toilet, so she got down on all fours to retrieve it. I couldn't resist... I mounted her.
Doberman: So you're here for castration too.
German Shepherd: Nope, just a nail trim.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 20, 2026 11:30 PM (qpyNK)

164
It just occurred to me, this is the evening of the day before the summer solstice. So, this is Summer's Eve. Are you feeling fresh?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:31 PM (w6EFb)

165 Hey all,

We have a launch late tomorrow morning.

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 17-28
SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 21, 2026
Launch Time: 8:12 a.m. PDT (1512 UTC, 17:12 CEST)

https://youtu.be/mC_L0wUT_gs

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 11:31 PM (2F0/Y)

166 I used to do that in my sleep.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:37 PM (6/7Fs)


Hey!
I was 14 ok. And it only happened twice.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 11:33 PM (2WIwB)

167
I just told Miley, "Hey Hon, it's Summer's Eve!".

Her reply, "Don't be a douche!"

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:33 PM (w6EFb)

168 Decided to grab a stogie and a glass of Black Barrel. Sitting on the front porch listening to a steady rain, admiring the 24" deep x 16 diameter hole I dug this afternoon, then filled with concrete for to hold our new flag pole.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:33 PM (6lIrI)

169 lol publius

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 11:34 PM (ZHOnm)

170 LOL, Rodrigo!

Posted by: The Bossa Nova at June 20, 2026 11:34 PM (1z8ji)

171 Does Mom know that you steal from the geezers?
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (77rzZ)


That's not stealing. Those old bastards put their money down fair 'n square.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 11:34 PM (2WIwB)

172 Summer's Eve,
Makes me feel faint.
Blowin' through the stankness of my taint...

Posted by: Seals and Crofts at June 20, 2026 11:37 PM (qpyNK)

173 Nurse, glad to hear your city decided to straighten up. I heard they were threatening to ship it off to military school with the G*dd@mn Finkelstein shit kid.....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:38 PM (6lIrI)

174 >> I'm enjoying observing the heavens, day and night, spending more time outside than I used to.

Glad you're enjoying it. In these modern times, we just don't do that much anymore. Time, navigation, seasons, etc, are all automatic now, and the connection is lost on the modern general public.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:39 PM (w6EFb)

175 &172 - LOL'ed. Might have woke the neighbors

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:39 PM (6lIrI)

176 Lol publius.

Sweet dreams Horde, I am running out of gas.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 11:41 PM (0nHVk)

177 Wow, California Government is saying that Disneylands Autopia, a ride that has been open for 70 years, must change, or close.

The Gas engines they use in the gokarts are now verboten.

Going... after... Disneyland... Hubris.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2026 11:42 PM (mP0Kj)

178 I was going through some notes from 2021 in my tablet, and I found the entry, "RONCO Heavy weapons division " with no explanation.
No idea what I was thinking, maybe Ron Popiel was trying to find a new market or set up a line of mecha-warrior suits or something.
I wonder what story I was working on.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 11:43 PM (rbvCR)

179 Ooh, I made it onto the "comments of the week" list. I feel like Navin Johnson. Hopefully nobody starts shooting at me....

Posted by: PabloD at June 20, 2026 11:44 PM (tTZHu)

180 'Night, Debby!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:44 PM (rdVOm)

181 178 I was going through some notes from 2021 in my tablet, and I found the entry, "RONCO Heavy weapons division " with no explanation.
No idea what I was thinking, maybe Ron Popiel was trying to find a new market or set up a line of mecha-warrior suits or something.
I wonder what story I was working on.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 11:43 PM (rbvCR)

RONCO Heavy Weapons, a subsidiary of Acme Corp

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote. at June 20, 2026 11:44 PM (mP0Kj)

182 @178 - it slices, it dices! It perforates and mutlilates! But wait, there's more! Order now and get a free brick of C4.....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:45 PM (6lIrI)

183 Most of my shorts are khaki.

And sunglasses are a must.

But I like Henleys.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2026 11:45 PM (mPXxA)

184 > Going... after... Disneyland... Hubris.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2026 11:42 PM (mP0Kj)

The article I found says they're switching to electric.

I predict failure... even in California no self-respecting kid is going to want to drive a gussied-up mobility scooter.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 20, 2026 11:46 PM (qpyNK)

185 182 @178 - it slices, it dices! It perforates and mutlilates! But wait, there's more! Order now and get a free brick of C4.....
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:45 PM (6lIrI)

As everything must have its opposite.

Silly Putty shows there must be Serious Putty... which some of us call.. C4

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote. at June 20, 2026 11:47 PM (mP0Kj)

186 179 Ooh, I made it onto the "comments of the week" list. I feel like Navin Johnson. Hopefully nobody starts shooting at me....
Posted by: PabloD at June 20, 2026 11:44 PM (tTZHu)

--------

Meh. Everyone knows the whole thing is rigged.

Not to take away from your achievement or anything...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 11:49 PM (6/7Fs)

187 Elon Musk just posted a picture of a very pregnant woman riding in a Cybertruck, with no comment.

Another kid for him?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 20, 2026 11:52 PM (qpyNK)

188 Elon Musk just posted a picture of a very pregnant woman riding in a Cybertruck, with no comment.
Another kid for him?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Dude better be careful, or he'll be only a billionaire again.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:54 PM (rdVOm)

189 173 Nurse, glad to hear your city decided to straighten up. I heard they were threatening to ship it off to military school with the G*dd@mn Finkelstein shit kid.....
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher

Oh! It’s temporary, for sure. But.

It tells me there’s a lot of folks out here going with the flow just to get along. And now there’s an excuse to go all USA USA USA, they are taking it unabashedly.

Makes me happy.

Next weekend. Iran vs Egypt. It’s the PRIDE MATCH.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 11:56 PM (A5RD0)

190
Along those lines, I was listening to a podcast the other day with one of the Younger Dryas impact guys being interviewed by some young feller. He was talking about the alignment of Giza and some of the others that corresponded to the sky around 10,500BC due to precession.

"What's precession?" Well, it's the 26,000 year wobble of the earth's axis.

"How does that affect the alignment and of what". Well, it changes the constellation the equinox appears in. "Equinox?" When the sun rises due east and sets due west, basically. It's the Zodiac constellation that occurs in.

"You mean star patterns?".....

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:56 PM (w6EFb)

191 Daughter and SoninLaw just dropped by for a minute. Asked what I was doing tomorrow evening. Invited us out, either a restaurant or to their place for dinner. I'm easy, any outgoing is fine; I just don't much care for being out after dark. We'll see. It's Dad's Day, not like I have any say in what we'll do!🤪

Hey, Bartender: I notice we've somehow got some coffee liquor. Wondering what to do with it. Of an evening, not in the morning coffee. If we had some vodka, we could make a Russki, I guess. Just have rum and whiskey. And weird things like bitters. Any ideas?

Over vanilla ice cream along with some crumbled cookies, maybe? I'm a glass of wine or a beer guy, not much of a mixed bev type. Occasional rum-and-something.

Maybe I should just go to bed…

Posted by: mindful webworker - adopted cousin in the Horde family at June 20, 2026 11:57 PM (9bb3y)

192 Dude better be careful, or he'll be only a billionaire again.
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:54 PM (rdVOm)

Supposedly he does a business agreement with each.

It's got to be an odd headspace to be in.

I'd prefer just one, but he is an odd one. Maybe he is so hyperfixated on not losing sight of Mars that he does not want to take the risk. If he married someone, you know some judge would give her half his shit (automatically making her the world's richest woman- which would deform a relationship to incomprehensibility.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:00 AM (mPXxA)

193 Going... after... Disneyland... Hubris.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2026 11:42 PM (mP0Kj)

Newsome kept it shut down during COVID despite their pleadings that Disneyworld had been open for almost a year with no one getting sick.

Something something...boot stamping a face forever...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 12:00 AM (nbLIj)

194 Disney is woke as hell as well.

He's flailing. Pandering. Kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:01 AM (mPXxA)

195 > Supposedly he does a business agreement with each.

I guess he's got a bunch of them living in a luxurious high-security compound.

Odd headspace indeed.

No word on whether he's still boning all of them.




Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:03 AM (qpyNK)

196 Next weekend. Iran vs Egypt. It’s the PRIDE MATCH.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 11:56 PM (A5RD0)

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Lol - that oughta be a riot....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:04 AM (6lIrI)

197 Kumala Harris is so dumb that she thought they were serving BBQ Beaver at Buc-ees in Texas.....

Posted by: Jackson K. at June 21, 2026 12:04 AM (Es4vZ)

198 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (ndZc7)

Many drugs can cause paranoia, including weed, speed, and coke, and it sounds like Chris Murphy needs detox.

Posted by: SciVo at June 21, 2026 12:04 AM (Sy6m/)

199 Elon doesn’t want to be monogamous.

He wants to have as many children as he can. He has the ability to support them and their mothers.

He’s never said he’s a saint. He’s never professed he’s a one woman guy. I don’t judge him. He’s done a lot more good in the world than bad and he has never demanded I pay for his kids.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 12:08 AM (A5RD0)

200 You know that Fed was Dildo, right?

On loan from the WNBA?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (5hs8R)

201 200

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (6lIrI)

202 >>>Kumala Harris is so dumb that she thought they were serving BBQ Beaver at Buc-ees in Texas.....

Posted by: Jackson K.

>Do they serve little redhead girls with pigtails at Wendy's?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (fkjGs)

203 Hey, Bartender: I notice we've somehow got some coffee liquor. Wondering what to do with it. Of an evening, not in the morning coffee. If we had some vodka, we could make a Russki, I guess. Just have rum and whiskey. And weird things like bitters. Any ideas?

Well, there's also the white russian if you want to use up the wotka. Or, leave it out and just have the coffee liquor with cream (personally, half n half is too rich for me, I just use plain milk)

Consider a "toasted almond" which is like the white russian, but with Amaretto instead of vodka.

I agree that the kahlua, or tia maria or whatever, is great over ice cream!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 12:12 AM (rdVOm)

204 200 You know that Fed was Dildo, right?

On loan from the WNBA?
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (5hs8R)

You could tell when he put the maple syrup on his hot dog.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:12 AM (mPXxA)

205 Well shit.... off by one as usual. S'pose it's time to put out the cigar and head off to slumber. Wish you all a blessed night.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:13 AM (6lIrI)

206 Well, sleepiness is fast overtaking me. Off to the rack I go. Night, Horde.

Posted by: The Bossa Nova at June 21, 2026 12:14 AM (1z8ji)

207 Is Schwann's a southern indiana/midwest only thing?

I remember my parents would get this giant tub (like 2 gals) of this toasted almond ice cream (chocolate with almonds.) It was delicious. Never been able to find store bought like that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:14 AM (mPXxA)

208 Should take off my sock before retiring, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 12:14 AM (1z8ji)

209 You know that Fed was Dildo, right?

On loan from the WNBA?
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (5hs8R)

You could tell when he put the maple syrup on his hot dog.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:12 AM (mPXxA)

No one put Bob from NSA on the label? What was his temporary fill-in, George?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 12:15 AM (qx7Zg)

210 Schwanns used to run trucks in the Calgary area, and outlying rural parts. Don't know if they still do or not.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 12:15 AM (1z8ji)

211
The soon-to-be god-emperor of Mars must have many concubines, of course. He may be shooting to break Solomon's record.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 12:17 AM (w6EFb)

212 We have (or maybe *had*?) Schwann's here in Idaho. Would see a truck regularly at neighbor's house. Don't know if Schwann's went out of business here or neighbor just quit ordering, haven't seen that truck for a year or two.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 12:17 AM (rdVOm)

213 Schwan's was based in Marshall, MN. Used to get their ice cream delivered to the farm in SD growing up. I agree, it was the bomb. Weirdly, their home delivery service died - they sold it off a few years ago and the company that took it over re-branded as Yelloh! Didn't last five years. Schwan's still produces most of the retail frozen pizza brands, but I think the ice cream is no more. Sad...

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:19 AM (6lIrI)

214 Used to chuckle when seeing the Schwann's truck. Thinking 'schwanz' LOL.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 12:19 AM (rdVOm)

215 just have the coffee liquor with cream (personally, half n half is too rich for me, I just use plain milk)…
Posted by: JQ

Ah, thanks. I used to drink that in my long-ago yout'. Hadn't thought of that.

Posted by: mindful webworker - memories, fading through the ages just like something something at June 21, 2026 12:20 AM (9bb3y)

216 Well, Summer Solstice. Not like it gets dark here anyway, but cool. Sky is perfectly clear, about a 1/4 moon in the daylit sky, we burned the trash (for the obnoxious greenie asshats out there), and now we are imbibing delicious cocktails courtesy of DH the bartender par excellence.

Our house addition is going apace. We got foundations this week, framing next. Will be lovely to have a bedroom on the ground floor, with a flat ceiling at the correct height. No more ducking to get into bed. No more stairs either. We are old, dammit.

However, the mosquitos are thick enough to carry off a small dog, so not much hangin' outside tonight. We demolished the deck anyway, for the addition, so I guess we are inside this evening.

Days like this are the reason we live up here. It is paradise.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 21, 2026 12:20 AM (bl07w)

217 In some places, when a kid looks / acts way differently than his siblings, they say "must be the mailman's / milkman's kid. Where I grew up, we said "must be the Schwan's man..."

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:22 AM (6lIrI)

218 Coworker of mine went to work for Space X around 2021. Probably a millionaire now...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 12:23 AM (nbLIj)

219 A previous cat of mine, used to sneak a few laps out of my Kahlua & milk... heh.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 12:23 AM (rdVOm)

220 Hey, no criticism on my part. I'm all for smart people having as many kids as they can support (and boy, can he support them).

He's made a few high-profile violations of Rule #1, but most of his choices seem to be respectable and do their best to stay out of the limelight.

He dodged a real bullet when that flirtation with AOC went nowhere, though. Rule #1 and how!








Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:23 AM (qpyNK)

221 Howdy, what's up tonight?

Sounds like a good time was had in VA. Wish I was there.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at June 21, 2026 12:24 AM (55Qr6)

222 He wants to have as many children as he can. He has the ability to support them and their mothers.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 12:08 AM (A5RD0)

It recently occurred to me that maybe he’s trying to spread his genetics as widely as possible to father a child or two most like him to carry on his mission to Mars…and beyond!!!

Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2026 12:25 AM (OTOad)

223 I actually enjoy Cyndi Lauper’s albums quite a bit. But Lauper herself always reminds me of the singer from Eraserhead. Of which I was recently reminded while watching horde-adjacent movie material.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair


Netfux has a documentary on the Eraserheads.
Filipino band that was apparently very popular there about twenty years ago. Don't know if the name has anything to do with the movie.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:25 AM (/lPRQ)

224 > 197 Kumala Harris is so dumb that she thought they were serving BBQ Beaver at Buc-ees in Texas.....
Posted by: Jackson K. at June 21, 2026 12:04 AM (Es4vZ)



AOC is so dumb that she thought the mascot was based on her.

It's the teeth.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:25 AM (qpyNK)

225
Solstice in about 4 hours. If you want to know the exact moment, that will be 08:24:31Z, 04:24:31 EDT.

Solstice = Sol-stice = Sun-still. Lo, the sun stands still. Well, declination wise, it's moving on the fast side longitudinally. Peak declination will be 23d26'16.5".

The alignment is a bit off this time, 0.2" (arc seconds). Last year, solstice 2025 was one of the rare times when the alignment is dead on, the center of the sun dead on the ecliptic of date to within Stellarium's 0.1" display resolution.

Shame on the Moon for that, of course. The Moon causes the center of the earth to do the slightest little side-to-side and up and down bobbing and weaving relative to the "osculating" plane of the ecliptic. Last year, it was dead on center, but this time the Erf is a smidge above that plane of date.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 12:27 AM (w6EFb)

226 Last year, it was dead on center, but this time the Erf is a smidge above that plane of date.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 12:27 AM (w6EFb)

You are getting dangerously close to math and physics here, buddy.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 21, 2026 12:30 AM (bl07w)

227 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.
So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ItpVy)
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You can also attend a WNBA game and toss them out in the court in the middle of play.
Just a thought.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:32

Now right there I think you have a top 10 post of the week Cicero.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at June 21, 2026 12:33 AM (55Qr6)

228 If he married someone, you know some judge would give her half his shit (automatically making her the world's richest woman- which would deform a relationship to incomprehensibility.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD

How about about Oprah?
Isn't she the world's richest woman already? Or was that US?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:34 AM (/lPRQ)

229 tcn!

Sounds lovely out there!

Not a fan of bugs though. And Alaskan mosquitos are nothing to take lightly. Are you going to have a screened in porch? With triple panes windows for wintertime?

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 12:35 AM (A5RD0)

230 If he married someone, you know some judge would give her half his shit (automatically making her the world's richest woman- which would deform a relationship to incomprehensibility.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD

How about about Oprah?
Isn't she the world's richest woman already? Or was that US?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:34 AM (/lPRQ)

I don't think Musk would be interested in Oprah.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2026 12:36 AM (dK+Kv)

231 Hunh. YooToob music suggestions included this one. Uploaded fifteen years ago. Hadn't seen it in a long time. Song is simple; video is memorable.

https://youtu.be/uNSBq6hvU1s

Goodnight, goodnight, y'all.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - relationships are never simple at June 21, 2026 12:37 AM (9bb3y)

232 How about about Oprah?
Isn't she the world's richest woman already? Or was that US?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:34 AM (/lPRQ)

Oprah is worth 3.42 Billion according to bing.

Half of his wealth would be 500 Billion (over 100 times her worth.)

Still quite a disparity. Plus she's too old to have kids.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:37 AM (mPXxA)

233 So, looking up his wealth (estimated at 1.33 trillion now) he is 389 times more wealthy than she is.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:39 AM (mPXxA)

234 And he's built stuff.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:40 AM (mPXxA)

235 > How about about Oprah?
Isn't she the world's richest woman already? Or was that US?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:34 AM (/lPRQ)

Alice Walton is the richest woman in the world. I think it was Lizzie Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (aka "Windsor") until she passed on.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:40 AM (qpyNK)

236 Elon doesn’t want to be monogamous.

He wants to have as many children as he can. He has the ability to support them and their mothers.

He’s never said he’s a saint. He’s never professed he’s a one woman guy. I don’t judge him. He’s done a lot more good in the world than bad and he has never demanded I pay for his kids.

Posted by: nurse ratched
=====

Like Brigham Young populated Salt Lake with his spawn,
Elon Musk is going to populate Mars with hundreds of his spawn, each by a different woman.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:45 AM (/lPRQ)

237 Hey, Bartender: I notice we've somehow got some coffee liquor.

--

MAKE TIRAMISU!!!!!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:45 AM (tcsrY)

238 Missed K.T. this morning, Hadrian, I've got you book marked, no movie thread either. Some days one must do other things. Drat.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 12:47 AM (2UA/a)

239 Alice Walton is the richest woman in the world. I think it was Lizzie Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (aka "Windsor") until she passed on.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:40 AM (qpyNK)

63.6 billion according to bing.

So he's only twenty times as wealthy as her.

It really is stupidly wealthy.

The 'richest person in history' list is retarded. Very much infested by DEI.

No Charles the V. They put Mansa Musa as #1 because he controlled gold mines. But Charles Owned all of the gold mines in the New world- plus Spain. Plus the Holy Roman Empire.

But he was white so Catherine the Great was richer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:47 AM (mPXxA)

240 My permanent record is so black you would need chalk to put a mark on it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 12:47 AM (2UA/a)

241 I had all those wwf figures back in the day. Ultimate warrior was the best cause when you pushed down his back he did a warrior splash.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 12:48 AM (YZ0Fo)

242 >> You are getting dangerously close to math and physics here, buddy.

It does help to know a little bit about that for this stuff.
Just a little bit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 12:51 AM (w6EFb)

243 The glory of a nice perky pair is unrivaled. I just had the good fortune of getting my hands a couple myself! They were lovely little percocets and have rendered me a gibberish fool.

Posted by: 496 at June 21, 2026 12:52 AM (mzbnH)

244 It was a good day. The Sooners won taking down their 8th ranked team. One more win and they are champs!

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 12:54 AM (YZ0Fo)

245
I'm all for smart people having as many kids as they can support (and boy, can he support them).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

===============

I'm not. Fatherlessness is a worse problem than having a distant dad that you share among a harem of moms, even if he can give you an entire fleet of Cyber Trucks. I don't think it's an accident that one of Elon's sons has committed semi-suicide by "transitioning" to female.

And it also bothers me that conservative men who wink at ol' Elon and cut him slack for the harem thing are hostile towards women who have chosen not to have kids for entirely responsible reasons and mock them as "empty egg cartons." I've never seen a moron express a shred of sympathy for Jennifer Aniston, who wanted kids, got dumped by a faithless husband, tried to have them later in life, and finally resigned herself to childlessness. And I'd better say Good-night.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 21, 2026 12:56 AM (XJ22o)

246 Jennifer Aniston, who wanted kids, got dumped by a faithless husband, tried to have them later in life, and finally resigned herself to childlessness. And I'd better say Good-night.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Jennifer Aniston has had 50 years to have a kid. She didn't want to when she was younger and now has buyers remorse.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 12:59 AM (YZ0Fo)

247 Consider:

A-- One guy wants kids by a couple of dozen women.

B-- One gal wants kids by a couple of dozen men.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:03 AM (rdVOm)

248 Some say times now are not as bad as they were in the '60s.
Where are any lyrics of today depicting this:

But at night it's a different world
Go out and find a girl
Come-on come-on and dance all night
Despite the heat it'll be alright

And babe, don't you know it's a pity
That the days can't be like the nights
In the summer, in the city
In the summer, in the city

Cool town, evening in the city
Dressing so fine and looking so pretty
Cool cat, looking for a kitty
Gonna look in every corner of the city
Till I'm wheezing like a bus stop
Running up the stairs, gonna meet you on the rooftop

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:03 AM (2UA/a)

249 Put some ketchup on it.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 01:04 AM (oq9dX)

250 Consider:

A-- One guy wants kids by a couple of dozen women.

B-- One gal wants kids by a couple of dozen men.
Posted by: JQ at June

Who pays for/supports them?

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:05 AM (YZ0Fo)

251 >>>I had all those wwf figures back in the day. Ultimate warrior was the best cause when you pushed down his back he did a warrior splash.

Posted by: BruceWayne

>Now they have a cologne that The Rock is promoting. Who the fuck wants to smell like a wrassler?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 01:06 AM (fkjGs)

252 All I can think of is that the paved highway 2 miles south of here had a wreck or some other closure, and traffic was detoured to the grid road.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
--

Spaced Aliens

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:06 AM (2UA/a)

253 Who pays for/supports them?
Posted by: BruceWayne

In my scenario-- don't worry about it, it isn't you. Or the taxpayers.

A--Independently wealthy man.
B--Independently wealthy woman.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:07 AM (rdVOm)

254 Now they have a cologne that The Rock is promoting. Who the fuck wants to smell like a wrassler?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

I mean I might be interested in "stone cold said so" scent

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:07 AM (YZ0Fo)

255 208 Should take off my sock before retiring, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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May as well take off both of them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:08 AM (2UA/a)

256 In my scenario-- don't worry about it, it isn't you. Or the taxpayers.

A--Independently wealthy man.
B--Independently wealthy woman.
Posted by: JQ at June 21

But see that's the difference. In that scenario yall do what you want. Wouldn't be a life I wanted but good on ya. But that's not how it is.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:09 AM (YZ0Fo)

257 Ok, I'm backing down. I lost my train of thought.

Elon can do what he wants-- it's his life.

I wouldn't want to be either him OR one of his concubines, don't care how much money.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:14 AM (rdVOm)

258 He's made a few high-profile violations of Rule #1, but most of his choices seem to be respectable and do their best to stay out of the limelight.

He dodged a real bullet when that flirtation with AOC went nowhere, though. Rule #1 and how!
...
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
--

Possibly it has to do with the quality of survive-ability combined with the ability to achieve above average; leaving the rest to
who has control over it anyway?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:16 AM (2UA/a)

259
I wouldn't want to be either him OR one of his concubines, don't care how much money.

Posted by: JQ
--

Been independent minded all your life.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:19 AM (2UA/a)

260 Been independent minded all your life.
Posted by: Braenyard

Yes. It has become a weakness, sadly.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:20 AM (rdVOm)

261 Eat a blue hot dog and you're liable to be wang chunging all night.

Posted by: Dagwood at June 21, 2026 01:21 AM (CC0N1)

262 Been independent minded all your life.
Posted by: Braenyard

Yes. It has become a weakness, sadly.
Posted by: JQ at

Not a weakness. It's a good thing. Always have your own voice and use it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:22 AM (YZ0Fo)

263
178 I was going through some notes from 2021 in my tablet, and I found the entry, "RONCO Heavy weapons division " with no explanation.”

I’m visualizing a TV ad selling MANPADS and RPG’s with the RONCO Christmas music playing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 01:25 AM (nuNhM)

264 Yes. It has become a weakness, sadly.

Posted by: JQ
---

BS, it's taken you this far in good stead. Rough patches are part of the deal. Hang in there.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:26 AM (2UA/a)

265 261 Eat a blue hot dog and you're liable to be wang chunging all night.
Posted by: Dagwood at June 21, 2026 01:21 AM (CC0N1)

does a Blue Hotdog lead to a Night in Bangcock?

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote. at June 21, 2026 01:26 AM (mP0Kj)

266 I've never seen a moron express a shred of sympathy for Jennifer Aniston, who wanted kids, got dumped by a faithless husband, tried to have them later in life, and finally resigned herself to childlessness.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

I've never been asked to express a shred of sympathy for her. I knew nothing of her personal life. Looking at her wiki bio, I would say Aniston is unfortunate. She apparently bought into the "you can have it all" lie.

She put "having kids" on hold for her career. "Friends" started when she was 25. Her first marriage was when she was 31, and lasted until she was 36. "Friends" ended when she was 35.

"Pregnant at 35" is what they used to call "a geriatric pregnancy."

In her own words, she was trying IVF, but it never worked for her. So maybe she was just infertile at that age (or any age) and it was never going to happen? I doubt she lacked money to throw at the problem, medically.

Her second marriage was from the age of 46 to 49, which is getting up to menopause age.

And there was always the option to adopt a child, though that's not for everyone.

And Musk's philandering is worse than Trump's serial-trophy-wifing. I take the Catholic view.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 01:28 AM (VHUov)

267 Eat a blue hot dog and you're liable to be wang chunging all night.
Posted by: Dagwood

Everyone knows blue dogs are for Democrats.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 01:28 AM (VHUov)

268 Ron Popeil's multi-use man pads. When you don't have anyone to shoot or anything to blow up you can go and bring home a freezer full of fish!

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:29 AM (2UA/a)

269 260 Been independent minded all your life.
Posted by: Braenyard

Yes. It has become a weakness, sadly.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:20 AM (rdVOm)

Dysfunction is contagious. If you let dysfunctional people into your life, even to help them, it WILL screw up you life.

Independence... equals ... peace... because we never know or can predict who ACTS rational, but will later turn out to have serious problems.

THIS is why I am not dating now...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2026 01:30 AM (mP0Kj)

270 Yellow dogs

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:31 AM (2UA/a)

271
I use the JPL DE440/441 ephemerides for Stellarium. It's crazy accurate, with an accuracy for the inner solar system of 0.2 mas. That's .2/1000 of an arc second. This is the position of something on the celestial sphere as seen from the earth. In terms of error in actual spatial distance, that works out to be around 200 m at the worst. Their lunar solution is 1.3 cm. IOW, the Moon's actual center of mass is within 1.3cm of where it's calculated to be.

In the neighborhood out to Jupiter and Saturn, that will get up a kilometer or two.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 01:32 AM (w6EFb)

272 Ketchup and mayo on a blue hot dog and you have an All American weiner.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 01:33 AM (oq9dX)

273 I take the Catholic view.

Posted by: mikeski
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Anything goes?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:37 AM (2UA/a)

274 Coyotes are howling.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:38 AM (2UA/a)

275 I'm sofa king independent, that it's very difficult to ask for help when I really need it. And-- nobody offers, because they think I'm capable (?) like, I've always gone it alone before ya know... and they'd rather not be bothered anyway.

Dysfunctional: my fam's picture is right there in the dictionary.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:39 AM (rdVOm)

276 I take the Catholic view.
Posted by: mikeski

Anything goes?
Posted by: Braenyard

Heh. That marriage should be a lifetime thing, and kids should happen within it.

That post was exactly at the Pixy limit for characters.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 01:40 AM (VHUov)

277 236 Elon doesn’t want to be monogamous.
...
He wants to have as many children as he can. He has the ability to support them and their mothers.
...

Not for long. Gee. what could possibly go wrong?

Elon is the Dare to Be St00p1d posterboy -- until he isnt.

ATLAS SHRUGGED UPDATED FOR ELON
(when the filth foams up around ELON's waist and Trump whispers: NO).

https://tinyurl.com/LIBs-WhatPriceTheirVision
... How he hated his debased need for her, he who loathed self-sacrifice but would give up everything he valued to get in her pants … Did she know?
...
“Why make a product when you can make dollars? Right this second, I’m earning millions in interest off money I don’t even have.”



Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 01:41 AM (XsqmQ)

278 On the bright side! I don't suffer the agony of plastic-faced family get-togethers anymore.

No- or low-contact.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:42 AM (rdVOm)

279 and for something this strange-looking, it didn't taste as atrocious as it appeared.




Can confirm

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at June 21, 2026 01:42 AM (6VErX)

280 Romeo13, if (when, if I want to be accurate) anything happens to hubby--

I. Am. Done. with "dating" or looking for opposite-sex companionship. DONE.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:45 AM (rdVOm)

281 I. Am. Done. with "dating" or looking for opposite-sex companionship. DONE.
Posted by: JQ

Listen, mac

The lady don't like to be bothered, got it?

Or do me and Rocco gotta explain?

Posted by: Surly but considerate bartender Miklos at June 21, 2026 01:52 AM (6VErX)

282 I've never been asked to express a shred of sympathy for her. I knew nothing of her personal life. Looking at her wiki bio, I would say Aniston is unfortunate. She apparently bought into the "you can have it all" lie.

She put "having kids" on hold for her career. "Friends" started when she was 25. Her first marriage was when she was 31, and lasted until she was 36. "Friends" ended when she was 35.

"Pregnant at 35" is what they used to call "a geriatric pregnancy."

In her own words, she was trying IVF, but it never worked for her. So maybe she was just infertile at that age (or any age) and it was never going to happen? I doubt she lacked money to throw at the problem, medically.

Her second marriage was from the age of 46 to 49, which is getting up to menopause age.

And there was always the option to adopt a child, though that's not for everyone.

And Musk's philandering is worse than Trump's serial-trophy-wifing. I take the Catholic view.
Posted by: mikeski at

When she was married to Brad Pitt. She didn't want to have kids which why he "cheated " or whatever. She had a million chances to have kids

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:53 AM (YZ0Fo)

283 Posted by: Surly but considerate bartender Miklos

Oh, LOL! Love that!

Thanks, Miklos.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:54 AM (rdVOm)

284 I was unable to conceive. That was XH1's "reason" to cheat on me ask for divorce.

Meh. It's okay, I didn't find hubby until it was *too late* and he has a son anyway. Adopted btw, because he & XW couldn't have their own either.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:58 AM (rdVOm)

285 She's always had attention, that's what she worked for.
We've all made bad decisions and we live with them.
Sounds like she's using her bad decision to regain lost attention.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:00 AM (2UA/a)

286
No problem, Ma'am

We take care of our regulars

Posted by: Surly but considerate bartender Miklos at June 21, 2026 02:00 AM (6VErX)

287
If you want a little taste of the math involved in those DE integrations, here you go:

https://tinyurl.com/44sey4zy

JPL's DE (development ephemeris) is a full, *relativistic* (meaning Einstein gravity, not Newton, at least to as high an order as needed) numerical integration of the entire Solar System. Just that base run takes days of CPU time on supercomputer clusters. And add a few months on either side of the base run for all the pre and post data processing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:01 AM (w6EFb)

288 She's always had attention, that's what she worked for.
We've all made bad decisions and we live with them.
Sounds like she's using her bad decision to regain lost attention.

Posted by: Braenyard

I'll give her credit for saying "ya I shouldn't have done that" if it makes younger women rethink their path. But ya I have no sympathy for her and her always playing the victim.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:04 AM (YZ0Fo)

289 Hahaha, told ya I put the FUN in dysFUNctional!!!

Really, it's ok. Yeah, I sometimes feel disappointed that my fam is weird & uncaring. Just got to shrug it off & get on with my life, I can't change them. Can't change the sucky dynamics.

But I get tired. So tired. Not getting any younger, LOL.

Soon I'll be yelling at clouds, and wearing an onion on my belt.. because it was stylish at one time I guess?

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:05 AM (rdVOm)

290 Soon I'll be yelling at clouds, and wearing an onion on my belt.. because it was stylish at one time I guess?
Posted by: JQ at June

Should I have waited to do that???

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:07 AM (YZ0Fo)

291 No one talking about the sabotage to the DC Reflecting Pool?

Maniacs!

Here's one. Pleads innocence but something hints otherwise:

https://tinyurl.com/35ba3443

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 02:08 AM (3UbC6)

292
If you want to get a spacecraft, a little probe to rendezvous with a comet or asteroid using all that fancy low-energy gravitational slingshot maneuvering, you need this level of accuracy.

That is your tax dollars at work. According to Grok, trying to put this is in human-scale relatable terms, it would be like me firing a bullet (it would be one hell of a fancy rifle and bullet indeed) and hitting a postage stamp in London within 1mm of the target point on that postage stamp.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:08 AM (w6EFb)

293 Should I have waited to do that???
Posted by: BruceWayne

HellifIknow. Heh.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:09 AM (rdVOm)

294 one talking about the sabotage to the DC Reflecting Pool?

Maniacs!

Here's one. Pleads innocence but something hints otherwise:

https://tinyurl.com/35ba3443
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta

I saw a lefty group showed up and complained that Trump got rid of the algae.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:11 AM (YZ0Fo)

295 Should I have waited to do that???
Posted by: BruceWayne

HellifIknow. Heh.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:09 AM (rdVOm)

Hahahahah I been yelling at the clouds since I was 14

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:12 AM (YZ0Fo)

296
And forget to add, that would be a moving postage stamp in London.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:12 AM (w6EFb)

297
Well, we've entered the solstice window. To 0.1" arc second, the Sun has reached it's peak declination, it's northern most point. It will remain there for a little over 4 hours. The sun now stands still. Another two hours until the exact longitude point is reached.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:19 AM (w6EFb)

298 Well, we've entered the solstice window. To 0.1" arc second, the Sun has reached it's peak declination, it's northern most point. It will remain there for a little over 4 hours. The sun now stands still. Another two hours until the exact longitude point is reached.
Posted by: publius, Rascally

Yup. Also known as my birthday.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:21 AM (YZ0Fo)

299 ...because we never know or can predict who ACTS rational, but will later turn out to have serious problems.

THIS is why I am not dating now...
Posted by: Romeo13

You mentioned "dysfunctional" -- yeah, it's hard to discern before becoming *too* involved. I was lucky with current hubby, and BF before him. All the others? Nah, bro-- they were toxic. Just like I was trained to choose, by dysfunction.

Not sure I'd be able to pick another "good one" is what I'm trying to say.

Best to you, Romeo13!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:24 AM (rdVOm)

300 And forget to add, that would be a moving postage stamp in London.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

FUN FACT

In 1910, it took about 3 days for a letter to travel from London to St. Petersburg in Imperial Russia.

By 1990, that had increased to about three weeks.

Posted by: The stuff Miklos knows at June 21, 2026 02:28 AM (6VErX)

301 287
If you want a little taste of the math involved in those DE integrations, here you go:
...
https://tinyurl.com/44sey4zy
JPL's DE (development ephemeris) is a full, *relativistic* (meaning Einstein gravity, not Newton, at least to as high an order as needed) numerical integration of the entire Solar System. Just that base run takes days of CPU time on supercomputer clusters. And add a few months on either side of the base run for all the pre and post data processing.


But 'splain me. JPL.

why does earth cross Saturn's orbital perihelion foci during the Epiphany, and aphelion foci right about now with an amazing coincidence of 1.03 AU around July 4?

It is Capitol. not Capital -- from Rome/Temple of Jupiter (specifically Jupiter Optimus Maximus, meaning "Jupiter the Best and Greatest").

Huuuge and bigly.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 02:29 AM (D9K3+)

302 Yup. Also known as my birthday.
Posted by: BruceWayne

All is arranged

Posted by: Sol Invictus at June 21, 2026 02:29 AM (6VErX)

303 but will later turn out to have serious problems.

THIS is why I am not dating now...
Posted by: Romeo13

You mentioned "dysfunctional" -- yeah, it's hard to discern before becoming *too* involved. I was lucky with current hubby, and BF before him. All the others? Nah, bro-- they were toxic. Just like I was trained to choose, by dysfunction.

Not sure I'd be able to pick another "good one" is what I'm trying to say.

Best to you, Romeo13!
Posted by: JQ at

I was engaged 2x. Dated my fair share. I don't think we get to pick. Cause I met she hobbit and knew immediately that was the person for me.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:30 AM (YZ0Fo)

304
The Sun is now directly overhead the Tropic of Cancer (taking precession into account, we should call it the Tropic of Gemini now). The word "tropic" comes from the Ancient Greek Homo talk meaning "turning point". The sun stops, stands still, and then turns south.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:31 AM (w6EFb)

305 300 And forget to add, that would be a moving postage stamp in London.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
FUN FACT
In 1910, it took about 3 days for a letter to travel from London to St. Petersburg in Imperial Russia.
...
By 1990, that had increased to about three weeks.

In 1990 MANFRED got on a plane to Detroit and beat the email to the destination.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 02:31 AM (m961t)

306 304
The Sun is now directly overhead the Tropic of Cancer (taking precession into account, we should call it the Tropic of Gemini now). The word "tropic" comes from the Ancient Greek Homo talk meaning "turning point". The sun stops, stands still, and then turns south.

Which strictly speaking if you back you realize that the zodiacal are not coordinates in the sky but rather points of reference on the ground, because even back then, they knew that the sky was moving, but the earth remained the same and gravity existed because the earth sucked... it was simple enough back then.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 02:35 AM (Tj3cd)

307 I was engaged 2x. Dated my fair share. I don't think we get to pick. Cause I met she hobbit and knew immediately that was the person for me.
Posted by: BruceWayne

You're probably not 'disordered' then. LOL. I've always been attracted to people (friends or lovers) who are *bad for me* somehow. Or, maybe, they are somehow attracted to me. It's like I'm a freak magnet. Ugh.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:36 AM (rdVOm)

308 You're probably not 'disordered' then. LOL. I've always been attracted to people (friends or lovers) who are *bad for me* somehow. Or, maybe, they are somehow attracted to me. It's like I'm a freak magnet. Ugh.
Posted by: JQ at

Oh dont get me wrong the others were not great for me. Hahah

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:38 AM (YZ0Fo)

309 It's like I'm a freak magnet. Ugh.
Posted by: JQ

So

There are nekkid pictures of you on somebody's refrigerator somewhere

Posted by: Miklos already regrets hitting post at June 21, 2026 02:39 AM (6VErX)

310 Oh dont get me wrong the others were not great for me. Hahah
Posted by: BruceWayne

But got me where I needed to be

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:42 AM (YZ0Fo)

311 There are nekkid pictures of you on somebody's refrigerator somewhere
Posted by: Miklos already regrets hitting post

LMAO!

If so, they'd be very old pics. Doubt I'd be recognized today.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:43 AM (rdVOm)

312 Almost midnight. Guess I'd better try to sleep...

Good night, horde & thanks for chatting!

https://youtu.be/KJBTOC3Mfpk

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:56 AM (rdVOm)

313 Yup. Also known as my birthday.
Posted by: BruceWayne

* lights the birthday signal *

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 03:04 AM (VHUov)

314 >> why does earth cross Saturn's orbital perihelion foci during the Epiphany, and aphelion foci right about now with an amazing coincidence of 1.03 AU around July 4?

It took me a while to figure out just what you meant by "orbital perihelion foci". For a heliocentric elliptical orbit, the line between between peri- and aphelion is the semi-major axis. The Sun is always at one focus, the primary, and on the other side, you have the other. And for Saturn the distance between those two foci does come to 1.028 AU. So, the secondary focus like about at earth's orbit.

So, you're saying the earth crosses that line of apsides on the aphelion side around July 4th, and on the perihelion side around Epiphany. I think that's it. I'll have to dig around to confirm the dates.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 03:05 AM (w6EFb)

315 It's like I'm a freak magnet. Ugh.
Posted by: JQ

Saw a t-shirt once that read "What am I? Flypaper for freaks?"

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 03:06 AM (VHUov)

316 Way to early to get up

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:09 AM (Ia/+0)

317 Which strictly speaking if you back you realize that the zodiacal are not coordinates in the sky but rather points of reference on the ground, because even back then, they knew that the sky was moving, but the earth remained the same and gravity existed because the earth sucked... it was simple enough back then.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 02:35 AM (Tj3cd)

The sky, in fact, moves sideways.

Posted by: Porcupine Tree at June 21, 2026 03:24 AM (pKv0r)

318 I'm looking forward to TJM's review of "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's
movie career, beginning with, of course, "They Live".

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 21, 2026 03:28 AM (DxVhp)

319
Well, this is quite the coincidence (of current epoch). The secondary focus distance is 1.08AU currently, a bit farther. And Saturn's line of apsides lines up within the blame it on the Moon fuzz with the earth's own line. That is we hit the Saturn perihelion point about our perihelion, and same for aphelion. A couple-day window around July 5th and Jan 4th.

Now, we've got precession to contend with. Saturn's apsidal precession rate is about around twice earth's own. Throw axial precession in, and Saturn's line of apsides thus walks around our seasons once every 11 - 13K years at the fastest. These things vary in a complex fashion, over 100K year cycles, and after millions of years, well chaotic behavior stars smearing things too much.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 03:33 AM (w6EFb)

320 96 Just think of all the Air Force Ones Trump could buy with the fraud money that Tim Walz handed out to Somali Learing Centers.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:43 PM (6/7Fs)

The Qatar-donated Air Force One?

You CANNOT talk about the Air Force One from Qatar without mentioning that it is the Air Force One from Qatar.

Posted by: The media at June 21, 2026 03:33 AM (pKv0r)

321 Father’s Day.

My third without one. Living, anyway.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2026 03:34 AM (pKv0r)

322
Man, Grok is something else. All that information, Saturn's line of apsides, and precession rate and all that, while not really "arcane", well it would take a while for me to dig that up. Grok can do the digging and run the numbers quickly.

Too late for me to continue, but if Saturn's line of apsides and precession somehow lines up with the Younger Dryas, well, I'll be spooked.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 03:36 AM (w6EFb)

323 315 Saw a t-shirt once that read "What am I? Flypaper for freaks?"
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 03:06 AM (VHUov)

Yikes.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:44 AM (6wpGE)

324 Wolfus Aurelius: regarding fasting for blood draw, black coffee is usually okay, just nothing in it to make it tasty. It's worth asking whether you need to fast, as for many tests you don't have to. Should always fast for lipid panel or CMP (comprehensive metabolic panel.) Drinking sufficient water before your blood draw will make it easier for the phlebotomist, as dehydration makes the blood draw more difficult to perform.

Posted by: frankie at June 21, 2026 04:19 AM (a16Yj)

325
And we have solstice. Sun's ecliptic longitude dead on 90 degrees, and right ascension dead on 6hr.

Summer beings. And it's downhill from here to the Dec.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 04:24 AM (w6EFb)

326 For our fathers who have given us life and love, for those with us and those gone to be with the Lord, we pray.

For those people who have lost their dear father, and those who have lost a child through death, may their faith give them hope, and for family and friends who support and console them, we pray to the Lord.

For men, though without children of their own who like fathers have nurtured and cared for others, we pray to the Lord.

For fathers who have been unable to be source of strength to their children, we pray to the Lord.

God, our Father, in your wisdom and love you made all things , Bless the fathers and grandfathers and grant that we their sons and daughters may honor them with a spirit of profound
respect. Amen.

( From the "Book of Blessings"-20tn century)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 04:30 AM (ceTyQ)

327 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread - 6/20/2026

Hugo



The movie world continues to make quality films from time to time, and fifteen years ago Martin Scorsese released what I think is one of his best films, the adaptation of the novel The Invention of Hugo Cabret by Brian Selznick. The novel is a children's novel, several hundred pages long but with minimal words on each page and heavily illustrated in black and white pictures. However, I did not care at all about the novel when the film was announced. All I cared about was that Martin Scorsese was making a new movie.

It came, it went. I saw it in theaters, but it was a financial failure. Most people seem to have completely forgotten about it, most people seemingly dismissing it because it's a Scorsese movie that's not a gangster movie. That's all he makes, right? And he's making a children's movie? In 3D? He jumped on that bandwagon? There is every reason to ignore this, right?

Well, I love the film. I've purchased it twice (once on Blu-ray and once the 4K disc), and I've seen it half a dozen times. A couple of weeks ago, though, I decided to actually read the source novel with an eye towards the questions of adaptation. What did Scorsese (and screenwriter John Logan) change? What did they add? What did they take away?

The Story


The story itself is obviously something that would attract Scorsese. It's about the title character Hugo Cabret, an orphan in 1928 whose father died in a fire in a museum where he was working. Hugo's uncle took him in. Claude Cabret maintains the clocks in Gare-du-Nord in Paris. However, we start the story with Hugo alone, his uncle having disappeared for months, maintaining the clocks himself and stealing parts from the toy store in the train station owned by Papa Georges. Hugo is stealing parts to fix an automaton that Hugo's father found in the museum, convinced that it will provide him some kind of secret message from his father once fixed.

Hugo gets caught by Papa Georges, forced to work for him to retrieve the notebook his father had kept detailing the progress with repairs, befriends Papa Georges' goddaughter Isabelle, and discovers that Papa Georges not only designed the automaton but is also George Melies, the pioneering French filmmaker. Hugo's discovery of Papa Georges through the automaton ends up fixing both Hugo's lack of family and Papa Georges' sense of failure at having been forgotten by the world, having been forced to sell his movies to a chemical company who melted them down for heels for women's shoes. The discovery also brings the attention of a French film academic who brings Melies back to the limelight, and all is well with the world of Hugo Cabret.

All of this is nearly identical in both film and novel. The movement of the plot has a handful of changes into a film. Hugo and Isabelle get injured near the middle of the novel, and that's been excised. There's an extra character, Etienne, who acts as a middle-man to connect Hugo and the film academic in the book who's completely gone in the film. However, those are relatively small changes. Hugo's journey, the overall structure of the story, and the dual character repairs between Hugo and Georges are the same. Scorsese took out very little.

He did add a lot, though.

Broader and Deeper


It seems obvious that Brian Selznick enjoys movies. The book is about movies, movie history, and even the use of illustrations in the film are meant to mimic camera movements. There's an opening series of illustrations that effectively make it a pan and zoom from outside Paris in the sky and into Gare-du-Nord (which Scorsese replicates in the film).

However, no matter how much Selznick enjoys movies, he does not enjoy movies nearly as much as Martin Scorsese, the man whose childhood was defined by looking out his apartment window in NYC at the kids who could play while he couldn't because of his asthma as well as watching movies on television (where he was first exposed to the films of the British-based duo Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, the Archers). He also established The Film Foundation, an organization dedicated to preserving and restoring films. He has a very long history of loving, protecting, and making films. He knows a lot.

And what he added into the adaptation was mostly related to side characters that help broaden the story's emotional impact but also deepen the story's appreciation of film, in particular with regard to French film history.

Tati


The additions to the story are mainly around four characters. The station inspector is in the novel, mainly as a generic antagonistic force without much character. Madame Emile and Monsieur Frick are essentially just named store owners who end up helping chase Hugo around late in the novel.

All three of these characters get a lot more time in the film. Madame Emile and Monsieur Frick's additions are mostly silent as Frick tries to woo Emile, but Emile's dog snips at the man. It's just a minor little subplot and comedic drama as the two try to find ways to connect despite the dog. It ends with Frick getting his own dog, and it's a nice addition. Showing another pair of people finding a connection in the train station, a minor way to reinforce the movie's central ideas.

The station inspector gets the most attention, being that antagonistic presence in the story, and the most additions come from a new character created for the film, Lisette. She is a middle-aged woman who sells flowers in the train station that the station inspector yearns for but can't speak to. There are these wonderful moments where the station inspector simply struggles to approach her because of him being very self-conscious of the metal brace on his leg, necessary because of a wound from WWI, and these moments strike me clearly as references to the comedy films of Jacques Tati.

Jacques Tati was a French filmmaker whose cinematic persona was centered around his character M. Hulot. M. Hulot was the star of several of his films, a perennially polite man befuddled by and trying to navigate in a modern world that was increasingly absurd and distancing. His most well-known film is Playtime, a film he self-financed that was also a financial bomb that lead him to living in, essentially, destitution for the rest of his life. The central element of it was the large set called Tativille, a shiny, urban environment with large interior sets and exterior sites that is often held up as one of the most impressive feats in production design in film history.

It's hard not to see a comparison between Tativille and Scorsese's bringing of Gare-du-Nord to cinematic life. A large set (with digital extensions, this ain't all real) filled with human life with bits of human comedy that recall the style of storytelling that Tati did? If this isn't a Tati-inspired series of choices, I'll eat my hat.

Now, this is not important in and of itself. Police Academy 6: City Under Siege has Jacques Tati references, and it's supposedly not very good (I haven't seen it, I just know that the references are there). References don't make films good or bad. However, Scorsese isn't just referencing Tati, he's bringing human emotion to the references that add to the central emotional core. The station inspector finding ways to connect with Lisette despite his feelings of brokenness because of his leg mirrors Hugo and Papa Georges finding each other and fixing each other. It's just told in this Tati-esque manner at the same time.

Adaptation


Is the book always better?

It's a common enough assumption and impression, but I always imagine some kind of long-form adaptation of Jaws that completely lacks the excitement and punch of the Steven Spielberg film but retains more of the novel by Peter Benchley. Hugo, though, is going to be my central counter-argument from now on, though.

Brian Selznick wrote a good book. It's definitely for children, but the combination of story, characters, illustrations, and ending come together to make a satisfying little adventure through a French train station and early cinema history.

Martin Scorsese, though, makes it so much more. He takes everything that's good of the book, and he finds ways to make it all simply better. He finds ways to make the emotional impact hit harder. He finds ways to make the appreciation of cinema more encompassing. He finds ways to bring all these additions together to create a finished product that ends up feeling like an improved draft, like Scorsese acted as an editor who pushed the story into new, better directions that feel natural from the intention of the original author.

The Invention of Hugo Cabret was a book that wanted to be a movie. Martin Scorsese made it into Hugo using all of his technical skill and cinematic acumen to do it.

It is honestly one of the best examples of adaptation I can think of.

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

Toy Story 5

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

The Brides of Dracula (Rating 2/4) Full Review "This is a film that seems to have so little story that it just revels in prim properness for long stretches, and it just sucks all the joys the film could have out of it." [Library]

The Two Faces of Dr. Jekyll, or House of Fright, or Jekyll's Inferno (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "It entertains well enough, but it really could have reached a bit higher. " [YouTube]

Sword of Sherwood Forest (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Honestly, the film doesn't ask too much, and it largely delivers. That's not too bad." [Tubi]

A Weekend with Lulu (Rating 1/4) Full Review "Really, the film is light in tone but unable to find any comic reason to really exist even though the situation, characters, and setting are actually rife with that potential." [Library]

The Curse of the Werewolf (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Could this have been the great werewolf movie? I really think so. Hammer was never going to invest in the three hour version, though, so I have to celebrate the solid werewolf adventure I got." [Archive.org]

Taste of Fear, or Scream of Fear (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Effective, stylish, and intelligent, this is a quality find." [YouTube]

Cash on Demand (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It's a marvelous character study, impeccably performed, and exactingly filmed." [YouTube]

Captain Clegg, or Night Creatures (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Still, the adventure, performances, and look of the film are fun. " [Library]

Please check out my videos from the last few weeks:

John Ford: The Directors Series
John Ford: The Definitive Ranking
Alexander Mackendrick: The Directors Series
Alexander Mackendrick: The Definitive Ranking
David Lynch: The Directors Series
David Lynch: The Definitive Ranking

Contact

Email any suggestions or questions to thejamesmadison.aos at symbol gmail dot com.
I've also archived all the old posts here, by request. I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ.
My next thread will be on 7/11.

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Comments

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1
*looks about*
*shakes head*
*leaves quietly*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 07:49 PM (O0L8i)

2 Open channel D

Posted by: Open Channel D at June 20, 2026 07:51 PM (tgTrV)

3 *looks about*
*shakes head*
*leaves quietly*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Better than scratching before leaving.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 07:52 PM (B0dAE)

4 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 07:54 PM (Ia/+0)

5 I'm tempted to copy and paste my YouTube comment here.

Or to write an essay of my own on this topic.

I will say that all directors who are adapting some other work are acting like an editor, I agree with TJM there. But very, very few filmmakers are GOOD enough at it to improve the source material. Most bungle it, miss the point, or maybe (probably often) never actually read or studied it.

Park Chan-Wook actually improved on LeCarre's 'Little Drummer Girl', shockingly enough. Ridley Scott's Blade Runner (and throw in a word or two for the many people who altered the first screenplay) is much better than Dick's 'Do Antroids Dream of Electric Sheep'.

Improving on a work is rare, but it's uncommon for an adaptation to even be competent. Often there's a lot of contraversies even by the successful adaptations like Peter Jackson's adaptation of 'Lord of the Rings' or Zach Snyder's adaptation of 'The Watchmen'.

Hugo though, I don't like it. It didn't move me and kinda low-key annoyed me, frankly. Blame Sasha Baron Cohen if you must, he's part of it, but not the only part.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 07:58 PM (xcxpd)

6 Yes electric sleep is unadaplable havent seen the latest drummer girl adaptation

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:04 PM (bXbFr)

7 Unadaptable

Watchmen was probably faithful but i didnt care for it

Snyder seems to have brought the bug into the dcu

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:07 PM (bXbFr)

8 I often say I don't go to see a movie because its from some director. I saw A Straight Sory, really liked it maybe a year ago and had no idea it was done by David Lynch until the directors series.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Ia/+0)

9 5
Most bungle it, miss the point, or maybe (probably often) never actually read or studied it.


Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 07:58 PM (xcxpd)

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Verhoeven bragged that he never finished reading Starship Troopers.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Zn6QU)

10 Cavill is mostly charmless because of the script

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (bXbFr)

11 I thought Hugo was boring but it did introduce me to Georges Méliès. So if Scorsese's aim was to shame film preservationists into doing their job, which I have to assume it was... it succeeded.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 08:09 PM (gKWVE)

12 He shows a lot of charm in other projects

Corenswet has some of reeves manner but still too emo

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:10 PM (bXbFr)

13 Maybe its a question all creatives should ask themselves when taking on a story from another medium.

"Can I make it better?"

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:10 PM (Zn6QU)

14 Kate Bush, "Hammer Horror":

https://tinyurl.com/2ufzzvv6

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 08:10 PM (kpS4V)

15 Never saw Hugo and never read the source, so no opinion on the adaptation. But Scorsese directed the remake of Cape Fear, which annoyed me more than I thought possible; the original version did a decent job, though it softened John D. MacDonald's ending a bit, while the remake threw away much of the story's core. Still can't believe Scorsese didn't realize what he was doing when he did that.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:11 PM (q3u5l)

16 I'm pretty sure Verhoeven did read the book. He just skipped Heinlein's extended rant 3/4 of the way through. That's where Heinlein was bitching about how inefficient and bloated the armed forces in the "past" (read: the Navy in the 1950s) had become.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 08:11 PM (gKWVE)

17 Yes some of thr projects are grand ive tried to get through metropolis twice

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:11 PM (bXbFr)

18 Nazi beverly hill (buenod aires area code)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:15 PM (bXbFr)

19 I never saw Hugo

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:15 PM (Ia/+0)

20 He wanted to show brutality unredeemed (thats the point of scorsese)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:16 PM (bXbFr)

21 I was scrolling through Tubi this afternoon (I live a very exciting life) when I came across a show I used to like back in the day, Tenspeed and Brown Shoe. And guess who played Brown Shoe. Jeff Goldblum. I guess he's done everything.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 08:17 PM (ndZc7)

22 A long long time ago

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:20 PM (bXbFr)

23 I liked Hugo but Mrs. Wrecks hated it for reasons unknown. She does hate any syfy and Hugo is, kind of.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 08:20 PM (ndZc7)

24 Armor by John Steakley, a movie of that one would be primo. If they don’t screw it up.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 08:22 PM (LHPAg)

25 Which movie of those discussed was Henry Cavill in?

Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 08:22 PM (iIAkP)

26 Brutality unredeemed? Wasn't the core of the original film version of Cape Fear, or of John D. MacDonald's source novel The Executioners. The family in the book and the original film were straight arrows; the family in the remake was a mess and IIRC Nick Nolte's character had deliberately done a crappy job on DeNiro's trial and got him sent up. In the source, the core of the story wasn't simply the menace of Max Cady -- it was watching the main characters having to cast aside their adherence to the rules in order to protect themselves. Scorsese threw all that away.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:25 PM (q3u5l)

27 21 I was scrolling through Tubi this afternoon (I live a very exciting life) when I came across a show I used to like back in the day, Tenspeed and Brown Shoe. And guess who played Brown Shoe. Jeff Goldblum. I guess he's done everything.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 08:17 PM (ndZc7)
--

My mom and I liked that show back in the day. Jeff was so young! I liked that he kept the name Goldblum (I dunno, were they still telling actors to take whitebread names by that point?).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 08:25 PM (kpS4V)

28
Admittedly, I saw "Hugo" on streaming.

But, it didn't do much for me.

I felt like I was watching a guy exhaustively showing me his matchbook collection,

and his enthusiasm didn't connect with me.

Now, a Scorsese box office failure movie that deserves much more love IMHO is "Bringing Out the Dead"

A great movie in which Scorsese doesn't show his cards until the very end, which incidentally is the way I love movies and novels to unfold.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 08:26 PM (iJfKG)

29 When I worked at the bookstore, I had quite a few customers come in looking for the Mark Savage novels from the Tenspeed and Brownshoe series. They were always disappointed when I told them the books had just been made up for the show and didn't really exist. Wouldn't have minded reading 'em myself, actually -- the Goldblum voice overs reading from them were delightful.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:28 PM (q3u5l)

30 Umm, Prometheus.

*ducks*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 08:29 PM (u/oMr)

31 We watched Pressure a couple of weeks ago. Brendan Fraser does a decent job of portraying Gen. Eisenhower. However, Andrew Scott (portraying the Brit. meteorologist Group Captain James Stagg) steals the show. Scott just dominates every scene he is in.

For those unaware, D-Day was originally planned to occur on June 5th, but Gp. Capt. Stagg warned that the weather was going to be severe on that day. D-Day was delayed to June 6th, and the rest is history.

I noticed in the final credits that the movie was based upon a stage play. Almost everything takes place in a few offices.

The only thing that I thought was a mistake in the film was a scene with a squad of American GIs getting drunk in camp while waiting to embark the landing craft. They would have actually been tossed into the stockade.

I suspect the film does that to give the audience some soldiers to bond with during the invasion scene. Historical film footage was colorized: usually pretty decently, but some was a bit grainy.

Interesting little movie definitely worth a viewing.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:30 PM (ksbjf)

32
I love "The Brides of Dracula " for all its flaws.

It was probably the first quality horror movie I ever saw.

I bought it and still watch it every 1-2 years despite its loungeurs.

It has the best ending of any vampire movie and all the beautiful ladies a 9(?) year old boy could want.

Not perfect but give it a watch. It has a pretty good story as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 08:31 PM (iJfKG)

33 Seems like Jeff started out in indie movies, where his name didn't matter because, who was gonna watch it? They became cult classics anyway. So by the time The Fly came out and he scored the lead, he had already made his name by being Goldblum.
Emelio Estevez is an interesting case. His Spaniard father (and brother) were "Sheen". Estevez decided he was going to try representing his people (he was literally whiter than Jesus, but whatevs).

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 08:33 PM (gKWVE)

34 An interview with Marty and his amazing eyebrows about "Hugo":

https://tinyurl.com/2unap3v5

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 08:33 PM (kpS4V)

35 Long time since I've seen Brides of Dracula (my first Hammer film, I think -- saw it when it first came out); may be due for a revisit. Haven't seen all of Hammer's stuff, but usually enjoyed what I saw.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:34 PM (q3u5l)

36 Hugo is awesome in 3D. Martin Scorsese screened 3-D prints of House of Wax (1953) and Dial M for Murder (1954) for the cast and crew as part of the preparation for filming this movie in 3-D. They properly used 3D to help relate the story rather than just as a gimmick.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at June 20, 2026 08:34 PM (NZIuw)

37 The fun bit of movie lore John Derbyshire likes to tell is that he was, like Goldblum, a thug in a famous action movie. "The Way of the Dragon" starring... Bruce Lee.
Derbyshire chose a different path.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 08:35 PM (gKWVE)

38 If memory serves, one of Jeff Goldblum's first screen roles was as a member of the group of thugs that kill Hope Lange in the original Death Wish movie.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:36 PM (q3u5l)

39 Yes its pretty good in the hammer oevre

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:37 PM (bXbFr)

40 Yes he was in deathwish

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:38 PM (bXbFr)

41 I love a guy who has an oeuvre.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 08:39 PM (u/oMr)

42 It was based on a much older vampire tale of the 18th century

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:40 PM (bXbFr)

43
* looks at watch *

Posted by: zombie Russ Meyer at June 20, 2026 08:40 PM (0sNs1)

44 They really leaned on austrian themes rather than romanian

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:41 PM (bXbFr)

45 Verhoeven bragged that he never finished reading Starship Troopers.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Zn6QU)

And thus missed the theme about citizenship and military service. Verhoeven focused solely on "hunting bugs" and we got cheated-out of the powered armor used by the Mobile Infantry. Oh, he also completely missed the point of Heinlein's novel and re-imagined the society as being ruled by some sort of neo-Nazi government.

Doogie Houser showing up looking like a WWII Wehrmacht officer was another kick in the 'nads for fans of the novel.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:41 PM (ksbjf)

46 My biggest regrets in life have been seeing what I cannot unsee.

Porn in the 70's.

Shitty films ever since.

Read "The Moviegoer" by Percy Walker.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 08:46 PM (qFwJc)

47 Its a poor excuse its a short book

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:47 PM (bXbFr)

48 Starship Troopers was great (the book) you only the right to vote (franchise) if you serve.

Verhoeven is and was a shitstain on the underwear of Hollywood.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 08:48 PM (qFwJc)

49 Verhoeven bragged that he never finished reading Starship Troopers.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Zn6QU)

What bothered me the most about that movie was how abjectly stupid the 'mobile infantry' was. They walk casually down a 'road' in the desert, no support, no scouts, no nothing... And when a flying bug grabs a commutations guy, the soldiers just stand around looking worried, and eventually the officer shoots the human, and lets the bug fly off.

Even as a teenager, that felt like an insult to my intelligence. And Veerhoven wanted to make a morality play out of that idiocy? F--- that moron. My time would have been better spent watching the ExoSquad or Wing Commander cartoons.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 20, 2026 08:50 PM (3v7ra)

50 While idly scrolling through a streaming service menu, I spotted the recently-produced Red Sonja movie. Part of me wants to watch that movie, just to know for sure if it is monumentally bad as it is reputed to be... But its existence is so insulting, I don't want to dignify it with a 'view' on a streaming platform... Meh. I suppose I'm okay not seeing it...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 20, 2026 08:52 PM (3v7ra)

51 What bothered me the most about that movie was how abjectly stupid the 'mobile infantry' was. They walk casually down a 'road' in the desert, no support, no scouts, no nothing...

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Always protect your flanks.

Posted by: Marshal Georgiy Zhukov at June 20, 2026 08:53 PM (6/7Fs)

52
Lately, I've been rewatching Malcolm in the Middle on Hulu.

It's still great. Several laughs per show. I saw the Helper Monkey for Craig episode yesterday...I don't think I've laughed that hard in years.

Very much worth the rewatch.

Avoid the reboot at all costs. The ruined all the characters and turned the show into a fake and gay, trannie extravaganza. Nutkicks and Cuntpunts all around for that abomination.


Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 08:53 PM (iJfKG)

53 Starship Troopers was great (the book) you only the right to vote (franchise) if you serve.

Verhoeven is and was a shitstain on the underwear of Hollywood.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 08:48 PM (qFwJc)

Universal suffrage is a fatal flaw to a republic. The Founding Fathers knew this. We are actually living in the "mobocracy" the Founders feared.

You seem to have strong opinions about Verhoeven. LOL.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:55 PM (ksbjf)

54 50 While idly scrolling through a streaming service menu, I spotted the recently-produced Red Sonja movie. Part of me wants to watch that movie, just to know for sure if it is monumentally bad as it is reputed to be... But its existence is so insulting, I don't want to dignify it with a 'view' on a streaming platform... Meh. I suppose I'm okay not seeing it...
Posted by: Castle Guy at June 20, 2026 08:52 PM (3v7ra)
Will it be Black Sonja? Ghey Sonja? Moslem Sonja?

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 08:55 PM (LHPAg)

55 Yes its quite terrible

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:57 PM (bXbFr)

56
Watching the dinosaurs in Vietnam extravaganza, "Primitive War"

Starting slow, not sure if I'll keep with it. But, we're coming to the "WTF!!! There's dinosaurs here!!!" part so I still watch for now.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 08:57 PM (iJfKG)

57 More karen sonja

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:57 PM (bXbFr)

58 Dot, Not Feather Sonja

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:58 PM (ksbjf)

59 Starship Troopers is an ideal example of a movie made by someone who hates the source material. It does, however, have some good points. Nothing with Michael Ironside can be all bad. Clancy Brown wasn't bad either. I thought most of the bug effects were pretty good. And then there's Dina Meyer.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:59 PM (q3u5l)

60 How do they keep fouling up easy projects

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:59 PM (bXbFr)

61 Clancy is good in this and true about ironside who was last seen in nobody

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:00 PM (bXbFr)

62 I saw 2 films recently:

1) The Favourite, and

2) Tea With Mussolini

I loved The Favourite. A beautiful film about Queen Anne's early 18th century court... and Anne's supposed bisexuality. It has a wonderful ensemble cast. And the look of the film is just stunning!

I disliked Tea, one of Franco Zeffirelli's last films. The story drowns in treacle. I watched it on Amazon Prime, and I thought it was funny that it had subtitles for the English parts, which I could understand perfectly well without subtitles. But NO subtitles for the Italian parts, which I couldn't understand at all! But I got the gist of it. It's a mess.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:01 PM (RCjYY)

63 59 Starship Troopers is an ideal example of a movie made by someone who hates the source material. It does, however, have some good points

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The co-ed showers were the only thing that left an impression on my primitive male lambic consciousness.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:02 PM (6/7Fs)

64 Starship Troopers is an ideal example of a movie made by someone who hates the source material. It does, however, have some good points. Nothing with Michael Ironside can be all bad. Clancy Brown wasn't bad either. I thought most of the bug effects were pretty good. And then there's Dina Meyer.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:59 PM (q3u5l)

Yeah, I like "Starship Trooper", but I never read the novel.

It's a very well-made, and well-directed movie that know exactly the story it wants to tell. Linear plotting to a great ending.

And yes, Dina Meyer!!!! What ever happened to her?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 09:02 PM (iJfKG)

65 Limbic.

Whatever.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:02 PM (6/7Fs)

66 Close enough

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:04 PM (bXbFr)

67 Will it be Black Sonja? Ghey Sonja? Moslem Sonja?
Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 08:55 PM (LHPAg)

We almost got half of the first; the mixed-race actress who played Ghost in the marvel movies was attached to the project for a while. I'm assuming we got a bit of the second; with an alphabet-director adapting a comic written by a raging leftist. And the third....would have just been insulting, since the original book-version of Red Sonya was actively fighting Muslims at the Siege of Vienna...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 20, 2026 09:05 PM (3v7ra)

68 Shes been in mostly direct to video fare

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:07 PM (bXbFr)

69 Dina Meyer's still working according to her IMDb entry -- more TV than features, it looks like.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:07 PM (q3u5l)

70 Possibly off topic, I've sort of always had idea's for movies but never really had any drive to put pen to paper as they say, so I got the bug and was looking at screenwriting software, tried a couple of them, they were all way overly complex and gui centric.

So I'm a neovim/vim/cli kind of guy, so I bashed together a config that basically looks like a word processor from the 80's but has screenwriting hooks.

I've been testing it out with the screenplay to Sinners.

Basically copying the entire structure verbatim, it's working out pretty good.

I will say this, reading the screenplay to Sinners is fascinating because what's on paper is so dry and matter of fact, and quite frankly boring, that I have no idea how that film got made or had any interest.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 09:07 PM (XV/Pl)

71 Last project was a variation on the graduate (still looks hawt)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:08 PM (bXbFr)

72 Cubicle farms -

I think most people would hate working in that cubicle farm in the pic above. Fake privacy.

Worked on this office building that had a cubicle farm largely divided up into groups of 2 x 3 like pips on a die, and divided into two large groups, half with six foot walls and the other half (near the windows) with four foot walls.
However, because of overall size of the space and walk-ways, not all groups were 2x3, there were some 2x2, 1x3...

But this one solo cubbie with four foot walls and walk-ways on all four sides. We called it 'the tank'. While sitting there anybody from any side walking could casually walk-by and make sure you are keeping your nose down to the grindstone.

In the land of cubicle hell that was the 9th circle, err square.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:08 PM (/lPRQ)

73 How so

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:09 PM (bXbFr)

74 Its certainly about racism and music and vampires

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:10 PM (bXbFr)

75 Well thats the subtext

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:12 PM (bXbFr)

76 Doogie Houser showing up looking like a WWII Wehrmacht officer was another kick in the 'nads for fans of the novel.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop


IIRC, Doogie really did a number on that bug's orifice with a big honking probe.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:14 PM (/lPRQ)

77 Do work in a cubical, yet see them all the time in new building
Actually look a lot more modern and if working in a occupied building seems people move a bit of home to them.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:15 PM (Ia/+0)

78 72

Did you know this?

The 9th circle is the LEAST bad, IIRC. He put Judas Iscariot & Caesar's assassins in the 1st circle, I think.

Souls in the 9th circle were merely "buffeted by strong winds," I believe. Could be worse.

Dante also put a lot of Italian politicians in the 1st circle--people no-one today ever heard of. That's because Dante disliked them.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:16 PM (RCjYY)

79 And actually one of the more fascinating things about programming a config for screenplays is how rigid (that's a good thing) the structure is, makes life easy when there are a limited number of parameters.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 09:16 PM (XV/Pl)

80 May have to give Sinners another watch some time. Didn't find it dull, but it didn't do much for me either.

In one of Borges's essays or lectures, I think he said that if a book didn't appeal to you, you should set it aside -- the writer apparently wasn't talking to you and you should try the book later.

Same for movies, I think. There are an awful lot of movies and books these days that simply aren't talking to me.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:17 PM (q3u5l)

81 Kind of like with dan browns inferno when they change the ending because it is a horror (also they tone down the evil of the who)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:19 PM (bXbFr)

82 Kind of from dusk till dark in the south

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:20 PM (bXbFr)

83 addendum to post 78:

I erred. The 9th circle is the least bad-- where he put unbaptised infants, etc. The v1st circle is the really bad one, where he put Judas Iscariot & his own political enemies.

I DID saY IIRC.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:20 PM (RCjYY)

84 I DID saY IIRC.
Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:20 PM (RCjYY)

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I'll allow it.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Comment Propriety Review Referee at June 20, 2026 09:21 PM (6/7Fs)

85 I always get a kick out of Europe's bitch about the "far right." What is the far right? In my mind, the far right are Catholics. Intelligent, educated, resistant to state controlled schools teaching atheism.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:23 PM (qFwJc)

86 The Nine Circles
First Circle (Limbo) – Home to the unbaptized and virtuous pagans.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:23 PM (/lPRQ)

87 As I was reminded, Dante is not canon law.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:24 PM (qFwJc)

88 I dont know why sundance for inatance decides to bring classic superman (unless they want to make the new stuff)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:25 PM (bXbFr)

89 Dante also put a lot of Italian politicians in the 1st circle--people no-one today ever heard of. That's because Dante disliked them.
Posted by: mnw


Dante did put certain known people of his time into appropriate circles - sodomites, thieves, etc.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:25 PM (/lPRQ)

90 Very possible Tolkien will be canonized.
Dante Alighieri won't be. He hated the popes of his time.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:26 PM (gKWVE)

91 Superman 3 &4 were progresiveky worse

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:26 PM (bXbFr)

92 Jeez that's hard to keep straight!

I was right the first time. The 9th circle is bfor the worst sinners.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:27 PM (RCjYY)

93 Well they',re werent great popes back then (some were)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:27 PM (bXbFr)

94 I read "The Inferno" with delight. So interesting. All good stuff.

I got stuck at "The Purgatorio." Too close to home.

Pride of family. Pride of accomplishment.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:28 PM (qFwJc)

95 @91

>>Superman 3 &4 were progresiveky worse

They really should have stopped at 1, but two was not terrible.

Most films do not need a sequel.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 09:29 PM (XV/Pl)

96 1/3 third were great Popes. 1/3 were mediocre. 1/3 were very bad men. Francis and Leo are heretics.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:30 PM (qFwJc)

97 It had some corny elements but man of steel (really gets my goat) for botching the thing

They need to bring back zombie salkind

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:31 PM (bXbFr)

98 Pope Joan brought a real sense of feminine sensibilities to the Papal Offices..

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:31 PM (6/7Fs)

99 Very possible Tolkien will be canonized.
Dante Alighieri won't be. He hated the popes of his time.
Posted by: gKWVE


IIRC, he put a current or recent Pope into hell with a blown out rectum for a lifetime of... blowing his rectum out.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:32 PM (/lPRQ)

100 Superman is not a callous immoral thief

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:32 PM (bXbFr)

101
And yes, Dina Meyer!!!! What ever happened to her?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 09:02 PM (iJfKG)

Her and Denise Richards.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 09:32 PM (T6aVk)

102 A nice bit of adaptation? A Simple Plan, Sam Raimi director and script by Scott Smith based on his novel. Smith and Raimi play around quite a bit with some of the events at about mid-point in the story IIRC but the movie still finishes in the same place the book does.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:33 PM (q3u5l)

103 LOL The fucktards recent Popes have been "cannonized."

Is Dante in paradise? After 500 years, most heathens are free.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:34 PM (qFwJc)

104 Pope Joan brought a real sense of feminine sensibilities to the Papal Offices..

You Mormon?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:35 PM (qFwJc)

105 The latest superman is just aimless cgi without any heart

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:37 PM (bXbFr)

106 But the original had many practical effects

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:38 PM (bXbFr)

107 Seriously, I never heard of Pope Joan, but from a Mormon, that was a fag and died quite a while ago. Please pray for the soul of my dear old friend. He was a friend. But not sexually. He went off to BYU.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:39 PM (qFwJc)

108 Pope Alexander VI is regarded as the one who was so corrupt, he set the table for Martin Luther.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:40 PM (RCjYY)

109 105 The latest superman is just aimless cgi without any heart
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:37 PM (bXbFr)

hot blonde and Lobo. I'm in

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 09:41 PM (xcxpd)

110 I liked Hugo quite a bit. It was quirky, but I loved the grande homage to very early film making.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 09:41 PM (nuNhM)

111 59 Starship Troopers is an ideal example of a movie made by someone who hates the source material. It does, however, have some good points. Nothing with Michael Ironside can be all bad. Clancy Brown wasn't bad either. I thought most of the bug effects were pretty good. And then there's Dina Meyer.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:59 PM (q3u5l)

I like both (the book and the movie).

The movie is one of those examples of the maker hate-fucking the material, but inadvertently making something good and conveying different messaging despite his intentions anyway.

Kind of like The Wire. What people take away from it and what was intended are generally two different things.

This is often the case with people who are blinded by their ideology. Like the movie Men. Supposedly a feminist screed. Normies watching it: bitch be cray-cray.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 09:43 PM (MIvVV)

112 The one last year

This one is like guardians but a more emo ronan

That comic has like a 60 year run they chose this arc

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:44 PM (bXbFr)

113 Pope Joan was a legend. Kind of the reverse "big mike" of the Middle Ages. The Papacy recalled a "dark age" when, basically, female prostitutes were running the place. Because the bishops of Rome were just that bad.
Alexander VI Borja might not have been a moral paragon but he did care about keeping the Church safe, stable, and independent. John XII on the other hand showed up to the Papal offices aged all of 18 and ready to party, including with other mens' wives. He was almost literally Pope Paolo.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:44 PM (gKWVE)

114 Verhoeven bragged that he never finished reading Starship Troopers.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Zn6QU)

Which is why I despise that movie. It had some great SFX, but Verhoeven took one of Heinlein’s greatest books and shit in its mouth.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 09:45 PM (nuNhM)

115 I'll come out and say it, Verhoeven's "Starship Troopers" was kino. It was good. It's a satire and a parody and can be enjoyed on several levels. Like "Robocop".

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:45 PM (gKWVE)

116 He did introduce me to the delight of great Summer refreshment. Half seven-up, half orange juice, and a scoop of orange sherbet.

It was the Summer of 1970. Charlie Manson. He liked to what "Dark Shadows." I was bored. I went back to the beach, which was 2 blocks from my house.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:45 PM (qFwJc)

117 "Souls in the 9th circle were merely "buffeted by strong winds".

That's me every morning.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 09:46 PM (vFG9F)

118 BTW this is why there exist at least two miniseries about the Borgias. There's real complexity there.
Nobody is going to write a miniseries about the Theophylacts, because everyone just sucks and there's no excuse for those guys.
Although a Cadaver Synod movie might at least be funny.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:47 PM (gKWVE)

119 gKWVE

You would make a mockery of Ben-Hur. Fuck you and go to hell.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:48 PM (qFwJc)

120 Thats who machiavelli used as a model the borgias

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:49 PM (bXbFr)

121 Bear,

I'd have loved to see a Starship Troopers faithful to the source. That said, the bug effects and the presence of Ironside, Brown, and Meyer kept the movie watchable even in the moments when you could almost feel Verhoeven spitting on the source. The movie's not what it could have been, but in spite of all that, I kinda like it too. I just wish it had been better.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:49 PM (q3u5l)

122 Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:48 PM (qFwJc)

u mad bro?

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:49 PM (gKWVE)

123 121 Bear,

I'd have loved to see a Starship Troopers faithful to the source. That said, the bug effects and the presence of Ironside, Brown, and Meyer kept the movie watchable even in the moments when you could almost feel Verhoeven spitting on the source. The movie's not what it could have been, but in spite of all that, I kinda like it too. I just wish it had been better.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:49 PM (q3u5l)

There is a better Japanese adaptation, it keeps the mech suits.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 09:50 PM (xcxpd)

124 108 Pope Alexander VI is regarded as the one who was so corrupt, he set the table for Martin Luther.
Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:40 PM (RCjYY)

That’s what the Catholic leadership said at the time, because they hated Alexander for being a Spaniard who was crashing their Italians only party.

But in fact the fault lies with Pope Leo X, the Medici banker pope who was desperate to raise funds, and who commissioned the sale of indulgences to do so. That’s what lit the fire in Northern Europe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 09:51 PM (nuNhM)

125 There was a sequel (actually) a third part where the war against the bugd have really gone badly and there is incipient revolution

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:51 PM (bXbFr)

126 Barbara Tuchman wrote a good popular history called "The Pursuit of Folly."

One of the 4 sections concerns the failure of the Renaissance Church to reform itself.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:51 PM (RCjYY)

127 126 Barbara Tuchman wrote a good popular history called "The Pursuit of Folly."

One of the 4 sections concerns the failure of the Renaissance Church to reform itself.
Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:51 PM (RCjYY)

That's a good one, worth reading

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 09:52 PM (xcxpd)

128 It deserved a proper adaptation (failung that another film that didnt wear its skin) see rebel moon (actually dont,)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:53 PM (bXbFr)

129 124

Indulgences were the proximate cause, but I would argue not the root cause.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:53 PM (RCjYY)

130 Say what you will, but Alexander VI threw one hell of a party.

"God has given us the papacy. Let us enjoy it."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:54 PM (6/7Fs)

131 Yeah. I am pissed that such a shitstain as yourself tries be a peaceful shit that you are and can not be challenged.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:54 PM (qFwJc)

132 Heinlein's one of those writers who really hasn't been well-served in film adaptations, isn't he? ST, The Puppet Masters (Sutherland perfectly cast, and some nice slug effects, the rest just so-so). Predestination seemed a bit garbled to me; maybe I just need to give it another look. And I think there was a Japanese adaptation of The Door Into Summer not long ago -- fell asleep during that one, and maybe I just need to revisit that one too.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:54 PM (q3u5l)

133 The Church diverted from the Word

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:55 PM (bXbFr)

134 qFwJc, I have done absolutely nothing to deserve this abuse from you.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:56 PM (gKWVE)

135 Then again luther kind of inspired the 30 years war

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:56 PM (bXbFr)

136 It was a popular belief that Alexander VI was so corrupt, his body started to putrify while he was alive.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:57 PM (RCjYY)

137 Funny how ocp is the optimum version of law enforcement now

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:58 PM (bXbFr)

138 It's a movie thread. Go be mad somewhere else.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 09:58 PM (vFG9F)

139 And outta here for the evening.

TJM, thanks for the thread.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:58 PM (q3u5l)

140 The syfy series was one of the best adaptations

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:58 PM (bXbFr)

141 For robocop

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:59 PM (bXbFr)

142 Callixtus III was the first Borgia pope. Alexander VI was a nepo baby.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:59 PM (6/7Fs)

143 gKWVE,

You deserve every bit of abuse. You repeated old lies.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 10:00 PM (qFwJc)

144 Just now putting some books up and one was a twofer, Starship Troopers and Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 10:00 PM (LHPAg)

145 There was nothing particularly wrong with the Starship Troopers movie that boobs couldn't fix.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:01 PM (vFG9F)

146 This chat room has escalated beyond a blog status.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026 10:02 PM (fkjGs)

147 ONT nood

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 10:02 PM (kOluj)

148 Kami Harris is so dumb that she thought they were serving BBQ Beaver at Buc-ees in Texas.....

Posted by: Jackson K. at June 20, 2026 10:45 PM (Es4vZ)

149 Three books improved in the movie come immediately to mind.
Jaws.
The Godfather.
Holes.
Plenty more out there. Most film noir movies based on books.
Of course, Lawrence of Arabia is a great movie based on fictional autobiography.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 20, 2026 10:57 PM (Skc+N)

150 I liked Hugo quite a bit. It was quirky, but I loved the grande homage to very early film making.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 09:41 PM (nuNhM)

There is a good documentary about Méliès free on YouTube.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NWN90TU6vdg

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at June 20, 2026 11:50 PM (NZIuw)

151 I believed that movies were never as good as the books on which they were based, until I read and saw "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."

Posted by: Dagwood at June 21, 2026 01:18 AM (CC0N1)

152 Her and Denise Richards.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 09:32 PM (T6aVk)

The school uniforms they wore at the beginning.,,wow.

(Not being a perv at all, as Denise Richards was 25 and Dina Meyer was 30, or at least close to 30.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2026 03:22 AM (pKv0r)

153 I believed that movies were never as good as the books on which they were based, until I read and saw "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."
Posted by: Dagwood at June 21, 2026 01:18 AM (CC0N1)

Which version of the movie? Swedish (2009) or English with Daniel Craig (2011)?

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at June 21, 2026 12:36 PM (NZIuw)

154 An example of a film being better than the source novel, IMO, is Blade Runner. I read Philip K. Dicks novel "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and it was OK, but I'm not a big PKD fan. I am, however, a huge fan of the Blade Runner movie. I think Ridley Scott took the source and transformed it into one of the best Sci-Fi movies ever. (The Directors Cut, not the original with the Harrison Ford voice over. It was good but not as good as the Directors Cut.)

It doesn't happen often but that's an example of the film transcending the source.

Posted by: SL at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (eW3mZ)

Hobby Thread - June 20, 2026 [TRex]

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Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. For this week, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) is on fire. It spun and spun and landed on a candle theme for this Hobby Thread.

"All the darkness in the world cannot extinguish the light of a single candle." St. Francis Of Assisi.

[Photo credit: NoName_13 on Pixabay]

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Quick shout out to all the Hordelings that attended the Virginia MoMe. I can now confirm that some of you exist in real life. Thank you for making the trip. Great to spend quality time on a lovely day with the AoS family.

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A candle theme? I'm a little surprised myself but enough people mentioned it in the comments last week to tilt the Wheel of Hobbies (TM). But how interesting can candles be???? Let's find out together.

I did not realize that candle making is such a big thing. Based on YouTube videos, approximately half of the world's population is currently involved in candle-making and posting videos about how to do it. Have I missed something that everyone else knows about? Is candle making a cult? Is there a conspiracy to lure new and unsuspecting non-candle makers into the club? And do people really burn this many candles? So many questions...

From my limited research, it seems that the first requirement of candle making is a kitchen. You must repurpose your mixer, pots, stove top and kitchen counter. Seems like you could make cookies instead if you're going to go through all that, but I am a dinosaur with a small brain and have much to learn.

It also seems like many candlemaking videos are oriented to people trying to make a small business out of candlemaking, not just hobbying. I have stayed away from videos that scream "THE TOP 10 THINGS YOU MUST DO IN YOUR CANDLEMAKING BUSINESS" or "I MADE $300,000 LAST YEAR SELLING CANDLES FROM MY BASEMENT!!!!"

Do you make candles? Do you have traditions that involve candles?

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What are you hobbying?

Candles are the theme, but the thread is not limited to candles. In fact, anything (legal) you are hobbying is welcome. Even if the theme does not speak to you, you might learn something. If not, find something else or offer something else relating to hobbying. If all of that fails, just check in and say hello.

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. Leave politics and religion to threads elsewhere (unless your hobby is building or restoring churches). Ignore whatever gibberish Kamala is talking about these days. Pants are optional. As always, puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice and do not be rude. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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There are a bazillion videos on YouTube about how to make candles in your home.

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Carving candles?

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Step 1: make candles in the most inefficient way possible
Step 2: have French people make the candles
Step 3: sell inefficient French-made candles as a "luxury" item for $660
Step 4: profit!

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Prefer your candle making with a little history?

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Guess Yankee Candles are a thing?

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Asking the important questions - where did the candle wax go?

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Time for science!

Do citronella candles work to repel mosquitos?

Citronella and Mosquitoes: What Really Works to Keep Them Away

Citronella oil is extracted from Cymbopogon species - types of lemongrass - and is rich in mosquito-repelling compounds like citronellal, citronellol, and geraniol. These compounds interfere with mosquitoes' ability to locate humans by masking the scents that attract them.

However, the "citronella plant" often found in garden centers (usually a type of scented geranium) contains very little citronella oil and does not offer the same protection unless its leaves are crushed and applied directly - a far cry from the ease of a ready-to-use spray.

Citronella candles and tiki torches are popular for outdoor use, but their range and effectiveness are limited. They may provide mild deterrence in a small radius but are not sufficient for lasting protection, especially if there's even a light breeze.

Similarly, decorative citronella plants add aesthetic value but don't repel mosquitoes unless the plant's oils are actively released. This makes them more of a conversation piece than a serious solution.

For those seeking reliable mosquito relief, citronella-containing sprays and wipes offer several practical options. They contain active concentrations of citronella oil and are designed to be applied directly to the skin, where they provide a more consistent barrier.

I hate mosquitos.

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Wax selection seems to be a big deal.

Lots of videos out there but most are unhelpful (at least to me). Soy? Paraffin? Beeswax? Coconut? Palm? Blends? I don't know. Eco-friendly and sustainable? Sorry - I just can't inflict a video on you from a woman named Flower with a septum piercing trying to explain it. It makes my small dino head hurt.

Until I learned about edible candles...now you have my attention.

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Where do those funky candle shapes come from? Silicone molds! Can you make candles in silicone molds with beeswax? Yes!

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Making wood candlesticks on a lathe. Sounds like a great idea!



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There is nothing like singing Silent Night at a Christmas Eve service by candlelight:

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German Christmas pyramids are a great use of candles.

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Horde Hobbying

Teresa in Fort Worth has been busy stitching a stocking for her young grandson, Niko.

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Nice!

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did an childhood hobbies theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

Notable comments from last week:

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She gets it. Thank you.

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.

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1 All right. No cursing the darkness, now.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026 05:30 PM (1Ff7Z)

2 Welcome Hobbiests

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:31 PM (Ia/+0)

3 I'm waiting to read all the candlemakers waxing eloquent about their hobby.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026 05:32 PM (1Ff7Z)

4 Mosquitos...

Back in the day we had "smudge pots." They burned diesel. Smoky. Mosquitos didn't like them.

Neither did we.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 05:37 PM (jehhT)

5 That stocking by Teresa in Fort Worth is delightful. What a wonderful gift for little Niko.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:37 PM (yTvNw)

6 If my wife opined here, she does make candles every once in awhile. She lights them daily.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:39 PM (Ia/+0)

7 All right. No cursing the darkness, now.

There's a classic Peanuts strip (that I couldn't find with a quick search) where Linus makes that quote and then says "Some people may disagree." And the third panel is Lucy shaking her fist at the sky and yelling "YOU STUPID DARKNESS!!"

Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 05:42 PM (vTZFs)

8 The candle that smells like broccoli farts - it's the "soy wax" it is made from.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 05:42 PM (/lPRQ)

9 There used to be a candle store in all the malls. I think those have vanished along with bookstores, drugstores, men's clothing (except for the stuff in the department stores), and hobby supplies.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:43 PM (wzUl9)

10 The green spirals of Citronella yhat you light are worthless, even with no wind.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 05:44 PM (B0dAE)

11 I can't smell the candles any more.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2026 05:44 PM (Cqx++)

12 Mosquitos...

Back in the day we had "smudge pots." They burned diesel. Smoky. Mosquitos didn't like them.

Neither did we.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026

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There were those little coils that you lit at one end and that burned, sending up smoke to deter mosquitoes and other insects. Are those still around?

And Shell No-Pest Strips? I know those are gone, but are there any modern items you can hang up to send insects fleeing without choking yourself?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:45 PM (wzUl9)

13 Most of the candles Miss Linda makes me whiff at Walmart and World Market do not smell at all the way they are labeled. They aren't bad, but they don't match the aroma mentioned on the label.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:46 PM (wzUl9)

14 I got supplies at Candlesandsupplies.com for my wife.

Picked up wax. Sent, color, mold and don't think she used them yet.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:47 PM (Ia/+0)

15 The candle that smells like broccoli farts - it's the "soy wax" it is made from.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 05:42 PM (/lPRQ)

A well known scent in the German High Command Center in the early 40's.

Wolfus, see any other good prospects?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026 05:47 PM (1Ff7Z)

16 Still mechanic-ing today. Fabbing up a muffler and tailpipe for a '68 Buick Wildcat from pieces the car's owner provided. Muffler and over-axle "U" bend are dummied up in place. Now I have to figure out some sort of short piece with 45 degree elbows at each end to transition from the outlet of the U-bend to the tailpipe which must go straight back. Want to do all the tricky welding on the bench.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:48 PM (1z8ji)

17 Speaking of molds, my clay medallion mold for my cartridge box I think is hard enough, now just have to melt plumbing solder and try pouring it.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:48 PM (Ia/+0)

18 AoSHQ is my hobby. Does that count?

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:48 PM (77rzZ)

19 Wolfus, see any other good prospects?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026

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Yeah, my house hunting is turning into a hobby, isn't it? There was the very nice 2BR/1BA place with a rear deck, floors all done, walls painted in colors I already liked, basement, 2-car garage next to the house. Good price. Bad? Located a block from a low-income, "affordable housing" (read: Section development. The development looks worlds better and cleaner than the same things you see here . . . but how long will it stay that way?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (wzUl9)

20 Hey, TRex! Long time no see./

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (77rzZ)

21 Never tried making candles but I've seen and read about it, including that Townsends video. I suspect most people approach it as a hobby to preserve a skill and perhaps to make gifts. I can say the scent from beeswax candles is very pleasant and the light from them makes for a relaxing glow. I want a good lamp for reading but for general illumination candle light is hard to beat. Like sitting around a campfire, it encourages story telling and conversation.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (yTvNw)

22 There were those little coils that you lit at one end and that burned, sending up smoke to deter mosquitoes and other insects. Are those still around?

And Shell No-Pest Strips? I know those are gone, but are there any modern items you can hang up to send insects fleeing without choking yourself?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:45 PM (wzUl9)

The good mosquito coils had pyrethrin (a plant extract) in them, and worked quite well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (1z8ji)

23 16 Want to do all the tricky welding on the bench.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:48 PM
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Best wishes on the project.

I have contemplated welding as a hobby theme from time to time. Yes? No?

Posted by: TRex - metal melding dino at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

24 That top picture reminds me that when I was in Boy Scouts, my top hobby was Setting Things on Fire. That and Centaurii - Estes rockets.

I was not unusual. We all used to say that the REAL Boy Scout Motto was “Fire is Good! Fire is our Friend!” My mother would wonder why I would come back from camping trips with my eyebrows obviously singed.

I’m sure any modern day mamby pamby version of scouts today would be horrified by that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 05:51 PM (nuNhM)

25 I bought some beeswax candles and had them blessed by a priest for the "Three Days of Darkness."

I hope that I never have to light them.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 05:51 PM (qFwJc)

26 I've tried commercial citronella candles to deter skeeters with little success. Smoke from my pipe does a better job.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:53 PM (yTvNw)

27 And there's a nice 2BR/2BA place also for sale, with nearly everything I want, no HOA. About $7K above my price range, though, and it also has those sliding glass doors giving onto the deck -- this time in the living room. I hate that look.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:54 PM (wzUl9)

28 Back in the day, on New Years Day, we would walk through the alleys of Pacific Beach collecting Christmas trees. We would take them to the beach and oh what a bonfire we would have. That was back when there were concrete fire rings on the beach.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 05:54 PM (qFwJc)

29 20 Hey, TRex! Long time no see./

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM
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Hey Bulg! Glad you made it back home without the need for a bail money call.

Posted by: TRex - social dino at June 20, 2026 05:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

30 I love candles.

But. No strong florals and NO FOOD SMELLS.

I do love sandalwood and tobacco and Frankensence. And cedar, pine and fir.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 05:55 PM (A5RD0)

31 24 That top picture reminds me that when I was in Boy Scouts, my top hobby was Setting Things on Fire. That and Centaurii - Estes rockets.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 05:51 PM
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Absolutely.

Posted by: TRex - fireman dino at June 20, 2026 05:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

32 I have contemplated welding as a hobby theme from time to time. Yes? No?
Posted by: TRex - metal melding dino at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

Could be an interesting topic. I don't regard it as a hobby myself, but it is a very useful skill that enhances the pursuit of other hobbies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:56 PM (1z8ji)

33 I do love sandalwood and tobacco and Frankensence. And cedar, pine and fir.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 05:55 PM (A5RD0)

No myrrh no more?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (1z8ji)

34 Want to do all the tricky welding on the bench.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

This is wise.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (B0dAE)

35 I was born with the specific human genes that produce a massive quantity of ear wax. It’s kind of my superpower. Not a great one I admit, an annoyance thus far, but it’s high time I put it to good use. I imagine I could excrete a candle/month, sell them in the french candle market as a luxury, and become the musk of earwax candles. $$$$

Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (ZdKYs)

36 For anti mosquito duty, I always like Citronelle candles. Old southern favorite, from a plant that grows prolifically in Alabama, Georgia, and north Florida. I would say it kinda smells like creosote, mosquitoes don’t like it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (nuNhM)

37 For years in my place I lit incense sticks. No, not those nasty patchouli or other cloying smells you choke on in incense and head shops. These, from a company in Albuquerque called Incienso de Santa Fe, came in little bricks that when burned smelled wonderfully of cedar, pinon, alder, and other mountain/high desert woods.

Amazon has them. I haven't bought a new pack in a while; I need to.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:58 PM (wzUl9)

38 Mosquitoes also do not like cigarette smoke.

Bonus.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (qFwJc)

39 29 TRex, I think that CBD preemptively paid all of our bail.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (77rzZ)

40 My daughters and I have made candies in vintage tea cups, they turned out really pretty! I should do that again.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (p4NUW)

41 > The good mosquito coils had pyrethrin (a plant extract) in them, and worked quite well.
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I have a spray bottle of pyrethrin that I spray on my work clothes during the summer. The mosquitos right now are excessive around here. I got bit about a half dozen time earlier while spraying for weeds along the driveway. Even with the clothes sprayed with it.

Bastards.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (jehhT)

42 My other hobby of scrap metal collecting has paid off two weeks in a row.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 06:01 PM (Ia/+0)

43 B0dAE)

35 I was born with the specific human genes that produce a massive quantity of ear wax. It’s kind of my superpower. Not a great one I admit, an annoyance thus far, but it’s high time I put it to good use. I imagine I could excrete a candle/month, sell them in the french candle market as a luxury, and become the musk of earwax candles. $$$$
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (ZdKYs)

That’s about the nastiest post I’ve ever read here. I’m sorry, this is in the same class as the old Indian Guru who had big tufts of 6” long hair growing out of his ears.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 06:02 PM (nuNhM)

44 >Mosquitoes also do not like cigarette smoke.

Bonus.
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Or cigar smoke....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 06:03 PM (jehhT)

45 I hate that look.

Just IMO but don't commit the rest of your life to a house with a structural feature that you really hate. Paint is easy, replacing fixtures is easy, etc. Changing a large door that is the primary access to the yard is crazy. Doable, but crazy. And expensive.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 06:03 PM (vTZFs)

46 I have basically been ordered to show up at this Texas MoMe.

Otherwise, who knows what RMBS — or worse, his mother — will do to me.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:05 PM (77rzZ)

47 43 B0dAE)

35 I was born with the specific human genes that produce a massive quantity of ear wax. It’s kind of my superpower. Not a great one I admit, an annoyance thus far, but it’s high time I put it to good use. I imagine I could excrete a candle/month, sell them in the french candle market as a luxury, and become the musk of earwax candles. $$$$
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (ZdKYs)

That’s about the nastiest post I’ve ever read here. I’m sorry, this is in the same class as the old Indian Guru who had big tufts of 6” long hair growing out of his ears.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 06:02 PM (nuNhM
Call Gwyneth Paltrow, she hook you up.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 06:08 PM (LHPAg)

48 I have basically been ordered to show up at this Texas MoMe.

Otherwise, who knows what RMBS — or worse, his mother — will do to me.
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:05 PM (77rzZ)

Are you expecting RMBS to say "Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot"?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 06:09 PM (qx7Zg)

49 You don’t wanna hear about Banana Dream’s ear wax? Be off with you, H8R!

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:10 PM (77rzZ)

50 I really hate the smell of citronella candles. I'd rather endure the skeeters. But I am not a skeeter magnet, so it's not a problem. My late sister would get attacked like crazy. I believe it's a blood type thing, at least partly.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at June 20, 2026 06:10 PM (0aYVJ)

51 27 And there's a nice 2BR/2BA place also for sale, with nearly everything I want, no HOA. About $7K above my price range, though, and it also has those sliding glass doors giving onto the deck -- this time in the living room. I hate that look.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:54 PM (wzUl9)

We bought a house like that, first thing we did was yank it out and replace it with a set of French doors, same size. Completely different look.

Also we have a nice looking back yard, but in the family room facing it, the walls were blank except for that door. So we knocked big holes in the walls and put in more French doors (these don’t open, no reason) on either side of the main door. Now that room has a mostly glass view of the entire back yard from almost any point in it.

We like changing any houses we owned.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 06:10 PM (nuNhM)

52 Thought to get bees wax for my reproduction 1860 Colt but found its a bit expensive

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 06:14 PM (Ia/+0)

53 Went through a candle making phase back in the 70's. I vaguely recall my kid sister getting paraffin that we'd melt and add color (maybe crayons?). Used empty egg cartons for molds.

One technique that was kind of cool was to pour the candle wax about 1/3 of the way into an empty quart milk carton, add an ice cube, pour to cover, and add another cube on the opposite side of the first, and fill to the top.

The wax would congeal around the ice, creating interesting shaped voids in the candle once the ice melted. Then as the candle burned, you could watch the wax pour from these openings and course down the side of the candle. We were easy to entertain back then...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 06:14 PM (nbLIj)

54 Dammit. I am getting real sleepy. Should go outside and get some fresh air before I doze off in this chair.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 06:14 PM (1z8ji)

55 Bulg if you are not there, aren't you late?

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 06:15 PM (Ia/+0)

56 Candle candle burning bright
In the window sill at night
Soon the curtain catches fire
Never was a fate so dire

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 06:17 PM (LmPA0)

57
Back in colonial times, candles were for the wealthy. Regular people used a "taper," a wick in a container of tallow.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2026 06:18 PM (HLgI3)

58 My daughters and I have made candies in vintage tea cups, they turned out really pretty! I should do that again.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (p4NUW)

I use old wine glasses!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026 06:20 PM (+YlH3)

59 And there's a nice 2BR/2BA place also for sale, with nearly everything I want, no HOA. About $7K above my price range, though, and it also has those sliding glass doors giving onto the deck -- this time in the living room. I hate that look.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026
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We bought a house like that, first thing we did was yank it out and replace it with a set of French doors, same size. Completely different look. . . .

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026

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Good idea, TS. Now can you get the seller to come down on the price?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:21 PM (wzUl9)

60 58 My daughters and I have made candies in vintage tea cups, they turned out really pretty! I should do that again.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (p4NUW)

I use old wine glasses!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026

That sounds fun!

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 06:22 PM (OoFl2)

61 Oh, Tom Servo, about those French doors: Will they work in a climate with winter? I mean, do they close tightly and keep out drafts?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (wzUl9)

62 Back in the early 70's my folks took us to Colonial Williamsburg for an extended stay. We had tours of much of the "back room" stuff including some hands on experiences with animals, farming, preparing food and making various sundries... including candles from scratch.

It was pretty cool. There was fireworks too. Old school type.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (jehhT)

63 I use old wine glasses!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026 06:20 PM (+YlH3)
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Aren't they full of wine?

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (GNqmQ)

64 Aren't they full of wine?

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (GNqmQ)

No...the candle maker is though!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026 06:24 PM (+YlH3)

65 I can't smell the candles any more.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2026 05:44 PM (Cqx++)

Ok, what did you do to get barred from Yankee Candle?

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 06:25 PM (nbLIj)

66 No...the candle maker is though!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026 06:24 PM (+YlH3)
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Well if you have worn out a wine glass I guess you know what you're talking about.

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 06:25 PM (GNqmQ)

67 I was surprised to learn that commercially made candles in towns and cities in the 1800s and earlier were a significant expense. A well lit house was a sign of wealth and hospitality called for enough candles available for guests even in modest homes. People learned to trim and shape the wick and used reflective surfaces to get the most light.

I imagine that on a frontier there might be candle making gatherings. Materials, like beeswax or tallow, for candles wouldn't be available all the time so supplies to get through the season might be made once or twice a year. Probably similar to groups making maple syrup or butchering hogs or even quilting bees. Make a chore a social event.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 06:27 PM (yTvNw)

68 JTB, I was going to compare the candle-making gatherings you mentioned to a quilting bee, but I see you already did!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:29 PM (wzUl9)

69 My propane lantern puts out 165 candlepower. Does that count? Comes in handy when those nasty storms roll in and take out the grid. I don't craft them, but it's always a good idea to have some candles on-hand.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026 06:33 PM (fkjGs)

70 All, CBD is a Fed. Be careful what you say around him.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:34 PM (77rzZ)

71 Wolfus, there's another aspect to sliding doors vs. French doors that you might consider. French doors swing into the room and in terms of where you place furniture, the room becomes narrower. We had French doors and after a few years switched them to sliding. Of course, Pella windows are practically works of art not matter what size and depth.

Also didn't you mention that the shades are between glass? Very useful with cats. That's the first thing that visitors with cats notice about our windows.

Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 06:35 PM (iIAkP)

72 Did the ladies on the Western Frontier have shooting bees?

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:40 PM (77rzZ)

73 Also didn't you mention that the shades are between glass? Very useful with cats. That's the first thing that visitors with cats notice about our windows.
Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026

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That was the place near the affordable housing development. This 2BR/2BA place, I don't know.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:40 PM (wzUl9)

74 Hey Bulg!

Hope you enjoyed yourself at the NoVaMoMee.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 06:41 PM (ZHOnm)

75 >>>All, CBD is a Fed. Be careful what you say around him.

Posted by: Bulg

>This is blog, what are people saying?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026 06:41 PM (fkjGs)

76 Did the ladies on the Western Frontier have shooting bees?
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026

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Those were known as Indian attacks.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:42 PM (wzUl9)

77 Quilting bees are still a thing, locally. Usually referred to as a "stitch & b!tch" LOL.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 06:44 PM (rdVOm)

78 74 SMH, I did, thanks. Thank you for recommending that I attend.

God bless you, dear lady.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:44 PM (77rzZ)

79 My neighbor gifted me with a citronella plant when Casa Sin Problemas landed in Sarasota. I do find rubbing the leaves on my feet and ankles provides sufficient protection most evenings..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 06:44 PM (nbLIj)

80 I don't make candles. I do listen to music. So: candle music.

Light:
https://youtu.be/6A8QwNLXSYY

Darkness:
https://youtu.be/688AIr6hfOE

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 06:46 PM (VHUov)

81 Now I’ve got to make it to Texas this fall.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:48 PM (77rzZ)

82 I have a collection of candles, most of them gifts including two boxes of kosher tealights preppers
Gave me when they moved. I use them in the winter mostly.

I made two cooking oil candles last year in jars. I used part of one when the power went out. Gave off a good amount of heat if not light.

My current hobby is housecleaning. Dad gave me another box of items they kept after they sold their snowbird home. I have been testing their items against what I have. I had to laugh that I bought a tablecloth (rather drab) for my table and Mom had three pretty ones of the perfect size.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 06:49 PM (ysTZR)

83

Put... the candle... back!

Posted by: Dr. Frederick Frankenstein at June 20, 2026 06:50 PM (Cqx++)

84 Years ago I was a bridesmaid in the wedding of a friend who got married the day after Christmas. Instead of flowers, we bridesmaids carried candles. It was beautiful.

Did I mention that the bride's sister, who was also in the wedding party, and I were pregnant and experiencing occasional dizzy spells in those pregnancies?

Fortunately, we both were fine that day. :-)

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 06:51 PM (XqvXS)

85 78 Dear Lady, I meant.

Based on the rule that you’re supposed to capitalize the addresse that is being addressed in what would otherwise be the vocative case.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:53 PM (77rzZ)

86 Now I’ve got to make it to Texas this fall.
Posted by: Bulg

Excellent plan!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 06:53 PM (B0dAE)

87
61 Oh, Tom Servo, about those French doors: Will they work in a climate with winter? I mean, do they close tightly and keep out drafts?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (wzUl9)

That’s probably a reason they’re far more common in the South than in more northern climes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 06:55 PM (nuNhM)

88 Wolfus, there's another aspect to sliding doors vs. French doors that you might consider. French doors swing into the room and in terms of where you place furniture, the room becomes narrower. We had French doors and after a few years switched them to sliding. Of course, Pella windows are practically works of art not matter what size and depth.
Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 06:35 PM

That is one do the reasons I didn't replace the sliding glass door in my house with a glass door. (Not enough room for two doors, either.) I got a Pella custom slider with the screen on the inside and a key. Comes in handy when unloading groceries.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 06:55 PM (ysTZR)

89 86 RMBS has so ordered me. And he’s got his mom to back him up.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:55 PM (77rzZ)

90 I've seen historical accounts that candles on the frontier were valuable items beyond the light they provided. They could provide a steady flame to get a fire going and even a stub, in a tiny enclosed space, could raise the temperature enough to survive frigid conditions. The person might not be comfortable but they would be alive. There were small tin or wooden boxes to hold the stubs in a trapper or hunter's pouch.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 06:55 PM (yTvNw)

91 Years ago I was a bridesmaid in the wedding of a friend who got married the day after Christmas. Instead of flowers, we bridesmaids carried candles. It was beautiful.

Did I mention that the bride's sister, who was also in the wedding party, and I were pregnant and experiencing occasional dizzy spells in those pregnancies?

Fortunately, we both were fine that day. :-)
Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026

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A number of years ago I attended a Santa Lucia (or St. Lucia) service at the local Norwegian Seamen's Church. The lady leading it, a local singer of Norwegian ancestry, carried a candle, and the entire church interior was lit that way. Beautiful.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:57 PM (wzUl9)

92
91 Sounds lovely, Wolfus.

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 06:58 PM (XqvXS)

93
That’s probably a reason they’re far more common in the South than in more northern climes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026

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Nearly every apartment, condo, or house I've ever seen or visited in the South has those sliding doors. I'm trying to flee reminders of these long hot summers, and a slider door is not welcome.

My current place does not have such a door, for which I'm thankful.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:59 PM (wzUl9)

94 The Broccoli FART Candle is my all-time favorite......

Brings back memories of those times the FART was a little wet during an Oval Office Meetings with foreign leaders....

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 20, 2026 07:00 PM (rvNIn)

95 If you ever find yourself anywhere South Deerfield, MA around the holidays, throw Yankee Candle HQ Store on your intinerary. I always enjoyed the way they decorate. Each room holding candles reflects the scents in that room, and up near the ceiling is a Toy railroad track that goes throughout the entire store. They cut tunnels into the drywall and did a really great job with the display.

And, there's another reason to visit the HQ store in person that you wouldn't know about unless you stopped in regularly. They put their experimental candles out for purchase just to get an idea of interest. And some of them are absolutely bizarre. I still have a "Apple Maple Bacon Wrapped Smoked Brisket" candle that only comes out on special occassions when I want to torment my black lab.

Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2026 07:00 PM (dIske)

96 91 Sounds lovely, Wolfus.
Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026

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The singer was and is a one-woman band, playing several instruments (with hands and feet!), and sings beautifully. Theresa Andersson.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:01 PM (wzUl9)

97 A number of years ago I attended a Santa Lucia (or St. Lucia) service at the local Norwegian Seamen's Church. The lady leading it, a local singer of Norwegian ancestry, carried a candle, and the entire church interior was lit that way. Beautiful.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

We attended a Tenebrae Mass at Holy Cross Church in Marine City. It really made us appreciate how our ancestors might have felt with the vast shadowy space lit with so few candles.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:03 PM (ysTZR)

98
93
That’s probably a reason they’re far more common in the South than in more northern climes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026

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Nearly every apartment, condo, or house I've ever seen or visited in the South has those sliding doors. I'm trying to flee reminders of these long hot summers, and a slider door is not welcome.

My current place does not have such a door, for which I'm thankful.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:59 PM

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My house in San Diego County is loaded with doors like that. My only real concern is that they facilitate burglary. That hasn't happened yet, but the State keeps heading south, so who knows.Other than that, they're fine.

I suppose a determined burglar could hammer their way in, regardless.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2026 07:05 PM (HLgI3)

99 still have a "Apple Maple Bacon Wrapped Smoked Brisket" candle that only comes out on special occassions when I want to torment my black lab.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2026 07:00 PM

That is hilarious! I wonder if the creators try to outdo each other with weirdness.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:06 PM (ysTZR)

100 I suppose a determined burglar could hammer their way in, regardless.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

Locks keep honest people honest.

They don't do much to dissuade the dishonest ones.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 07:07 PM (VHUov)

101 We attended a Tenebrae Mass at Holy Cross Church in Marine City. It really made us appreciate how our ancestors might have felt with the vast shadowy space lit with so few candles.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026

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"This ae nighte, this ae nighte,
(Refrain —Every nighte and alle,
Fire and fleet and candle-lighte,
(Refrain And Christe receive thy saule."

(Also given as "fire and sleet and candlelight.")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:07 PM (wzUl9)

102 Theresa Andersson. I hadn't heard of her, but looked her up on YT just now. Good stuff -- thanks!

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 07:08 PM (XqvXS)

103 And the colon followed by the close-paren strikes again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:08 PM (wzUl9)

104 Theresa Andersson. I hadn't heard of her, but looked her up on YT just now. Good stuff -- thanks!
Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026

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Her bio on Wiki says she lives in Shreveport now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:09 PM (wzUl9)

105 103 And the colon followed by the close-paren strikes again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:08 PM
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Managing gray box punctuation should be a hobby...

Posted by: TRex - parenthetical dino at June 20, 2026 07:10 PM (IQ6Gq)

106 My childhood was made quite exciting with my parents' hobby of candlemaking. Specifically, a way of making a kind of candle shroud where you use a special mold, concentric cylinders. The space between the cylinders is filled with icecubes (this becomes important later) and then the hot wax is poured in. The heat eventually melts the ice but the ice cools the wax enough to make interesting holes and patterns before melting. Then the hollow shroud thing is used like a lampshade for other, smaller, uglier candles. However. One of these ice-cube candles got stuck and wouldn't come out of the special mold so My Father The Engineer got out a butane torch to help.
It exploded. Red wax went EVERYWHERE in the kitchen. When we remodeled years later we found red wax in the strangest places. Nobody got injured, fortunately ... but it was exciting!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 20, 2026 07:10 PM (PHjsi)

107 We have a cache of candles for power outages. My wife selected a couple dozen based on their construction. "Long burning."

No clue what it means. Type of wax?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 07:11 PM (jehhT)

108 We use to make candles while at beach, wet sand a bit, depress inwhat shape you want and pore in wax. My dad used a Camp stove to heat it up.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 07:14 PM (Ia/+0)

109 107 We have a cache of candles for power outages. My wife selected a couple dozen based on their construction. "Long burning."

No clue what it means. Type of wax?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 07:11 PM
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Funny you mention that. I went down that rabbit hole doing research for the thread and the closest I could figure was people cheated by turning a wax candle into an oil lamp. That may or may not be the answer. I spent too long trying to figure it out.

Posted by: TRex - lamp lighter dino at June 20, 2026 07:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

110 Nobody got injured, fortunately ... but it was exciting!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 20, 2026 07:10 PM
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This should go on a t-shirt or bumper sticker.

Posted by: TRex - merch seller dino at June 20, 2026 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

111 [Deleted due to non-hobbying content. - TRex]

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 20, 2026 07:18 PM (xNKY/)

112 Nobody got injured, fortunately ... but it was exciting!
Posted by: Sabrina Chase

This should go on a t-shirt or bumper sticker.
Posted by: TRex - merch seller dino

That which does not kill you gives you neat stories to post on the HQ.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 07:19 PM (VHUov)

113 Wolfus, run and don't look back at that first place.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026 07:19 PM (1Ff7Z)

114 Funny you mention that. I went down that rabbit hole doing research for the thread and the closest I could figure was people cheated by turning a wax candle into an oil lamp. That may or may not be the answer. I spent too long trying to figure it out.
Posted by: TRex - lamp lighter dino at June 20, 2026 07:14

I think "long-burning" have smaller wicks and denser wax.

What you're describing is the "easy" way to make an emergency candle: just shove a regular taper into a metal container of Crisco shortening.

I made mine with beeswax wicks and poured warm shortening into the jars.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:21 PM (ysTZR)

115 Power outage doesn't happen often, but having candles and oil lamps around is helpful when it does

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 07:21 PM (Ia/+0)

116 Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks for being here. New theme next week.

You're welcome to hang out here for a while this evening but don't forget to stop by Club ONT later.

Posted by: TRex - crisco-enabled dino at June 20, 2026 07:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

117 I pretty much all over the map right now with hobbies, from 3D printing to serious programming, to painting and drawing to and playing the piano.

And I'm not even retired-retired yet.

Just think I'll have more time to do more things.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 07:23 PM (XV/Pl)

118 Wolfus, run and don't look back at that first place.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026

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It's a shame, but I think you're right. Its location is probably why the price was so low.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:24 PM (wzUl9)

119 I suspect my father may have been related to Forklift Driver Klaus. As in, many, many safety videos of what NOT to do could be made from his adventures. I had to undergo safety training for work on the Proper Operation of Ladders recently, and it was like a checklist of all the dangerous things he did. "Yep, he did that, and that, and yet he lived!" Fell off the roof a lot too. Good thing he had sturdy bones and Mom liked to plant impact-absorbing shrubs....

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 20, 2026 07:26 PM (PHjsi)

120 Like others here, we keep a stash of beeswax candles for emergencies. Yeah, we have battery powered lanterns and they work well. But for simple illumination, a single candle can light a room enough to function or avoid tripping over furniture. A night's worth of light, no fumes, no dead batteries, and a pleasant ambiance.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 07:27 PM (yTvNw)

121 Thanks for the thread, TRex

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:28 PM (ysTZR)

122 111 [Deleted due to non-hobbying content. - TRex]
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 20, 2026 07:18 PM (xNKY/)

Thanx T-Rex................ No loss and saved me 10 IQ points from not reading the comment..

Posted by: Jackson K. at June 20, 2026 07:29 PM (Es4vZ)

123 I was reading about the candle lighting for Shabbat. Fascinating

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 07:31 PM (afJtY)

124
117 Yay for playing the piano! I'm looking forward to more time for that when I retire at the end of summer.

I've always loved playing a number of preludes and fugues from The Well-Tempered Clavier, Volume I, but never acquired Volume II. That's going to be my next music purchase and one of the first retirement projects I plan, exploring WTC Book II.

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 07:32 PM (XqvXS)

125 121 Thanks for the thread, TRex

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:28 PM
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You're welcome! Thanks for being here.

Posted by: TRex - not naughty dino at June 20, 2026 07:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

126 (Refrain)

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 07:39 PM (DZ9Lv)

127 (Refrain

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 07:40 PM (DZ9Lv)

128 Quick shout out to all the Hordelings that attended the Virginia MoMe. I can now confirm that some of you exist in real life. Thank you for making the trip. Great to spend quality time on a lovely day with the AoS family.
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That's next Saturday, right?

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 07:41 PM (ei1sX)

129 Kiss my ass

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 07:41 PM (DZ9Lv)

130 Weasel, I need an after action report.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 07:42 PM (afJtY)

131 movie nood.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 07:52 PM (B0dAE)

132 Nearly every apartment, condo, or house I've ever seen or visited in the South has those sliding doors. I'm trying to flee reminders of these long hot summers, and a slider door is not welcome.

My current place does not have such a door, for which I'm thankful.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:59 PM (wzUl9)

You can replace the patio door with a single glass panel door, and a non-opening glass door as well, you will have most of the same light and just one door to worry about. They doo make double pane french type doors rated for outdoors, and they are as good as any door at keeping the cold out.
You could just put in a single door and a window next to it, and frame in the rest. The hard part is putting IN a door, not taking one out.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 07:55 PM (rbvCR)

133 I don't care for movies. The last movie I went to was Team America, if you can call that a movie. I enjoyed it very much.

Posted by: Ronster at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (XKmOA)

134 I don't care for movies. The last movie I went to was Team America, if you can call that a movie. I enjoyed it very much.
Posted by: Ronster
*****
I look forward to your comment every Saturday!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 08:18 PM (IQ6Gq)

135 The Grateful. You are very kind.

Posted by: Ronster at June 20, 2026 08:24 PM (XKmOA)

136 117, 124:

Bravo for music making! I returned to playing the trumpet after a 55+ year layoff. Now 3 years into my comeback, I'm starting to get the chops back, still short on endurance and range. Oh well. I'm old.

Got into it because I played a recording of my playing in high school for my grandson. Next thing I know, he'd signed up for middle school band to play . . . the trumpet. So I bought myself a new horn. He's now 3 years in as well, and we get together several times a month to play together -- his band music, my classical and pop pieces.

First time in my life I have a hobby. Very rewarding, and even my neighbors have been nothing but complimentary. :-)

Posted by: Fritz at June 20, 2026 09:10 PM (J7jo9)

137 I don't care for movies. The last movie I went to was Team America, if you can call that a movie. I enjoyed it very much.
Posted by: Ronster at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (XKmOA)

I am another non-fan of movies. If I get dragged out to a movie, I might enjoy it, but they simply aren't something I want to seek out for myself. I will hang out here until the ONT blossoms.

Got the muffler and tailpipe job done on the Buick. It looks good from underneath. One little job remains: hang the other tailpipe on the left side on some hangers so it looks like the car has dual exhaust (it doesn't), Owner asked if I could do that, so I will.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:01 PM (1z8ji)

138 Candles? Is this a prepping thread?
How about Prepping as a Hobby?
We enjoy it and pray we won't need it.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 20, 2026 10:59 PM (Skc+N)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread, June 20

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Courtesy Terry Glenn


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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.

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Cat Years

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What would qualify a spider as a pet for you?


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What about a reptile?

Meet The PetMorons

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I am a lurker but this brought into the sunlight.  This is Gideon, a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, from 2018 when he was 6 months until now.  Two weeks ago, I let him out for his morning duty. I heard him barking and looked up and saw him barking at a full grown male black bear up a tree.  I had to grab him, and he wasn't happy about that, and back away.

lurker MG

Wow! Gideon is charming! And he was super-cute at six months.

Doesn't really look like a bear hunter. Glad you got him away from the bear.

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We'll title this "Transgression." This is the look my brother got from Sammy when he had the nerve to try to brush the belly. Note claws. -

Miley

In that photo, Sammy looks a lot like the black kitten among the four brought to our house by their mother not long ago. He can be held for a few seconds, but then usually gives "that look" and shows the claws.

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Hi K.T.

I had to say goodbye to Emma last week. She was the last of a long continuous line of Scotties we had beginning in 1975. I introduced Emma on AOS Pet Thread back in March 2018. This is her last Christmas picture -- She was such a good girl.

Bill in FL

Oh, how heartbreaking to lose sweet, lovely Emma. She looks so happy in her Christmas picture.

Keep in touch.


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PetMoron Adjacent Animals
Encountered by Members of The Horde

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Hello K.T., 
The pictures of all the deer in this week's Pet Thread reminded me of a pic I took some days ago.  In the early morning we looked out the front window and there was Mama deer with a newborn.  When we first saw them the doe was laying down with the fawn standing next to her.  She got up and they both slowly walked away.  

Thanks for the Pet Thread.  Always a good read.  

George V.

I like that photo a lot! And the story even more Thanks for sending it in.

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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today.

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, June 13

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 03:00 PM




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1 WTF a cat with a black dildo?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 03:32 PM (Kt19C)

2 That is a cat brush, Commissar!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:33 PM (w6EFb)

3 Phew

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 03:34 PM (Kt19C)

4 Looks like kitty might have an injury so the arm is shielded so they don't have to put on the Cone Of Shame

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 03:34 PM (X/a22)

5 Oh yeah I see the brush now

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 03:35 PM (X/a22)

6 Greetings from Sakuraza. A year ago, she was living in the streets.

https://is.gd/ZU2Za3

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2026 03:35 PM (f0sNM)

7 Sammy has a rather long face. It gives him a serious expression. I zoomed into that photo when my brother emailed it. So stern!

He was enjoying his back being brushed, then relaxed and showed his belly. Kevin didn't understand that was not an invitation, it was just happiness. So funny, because after the failed belly-brushing, he wouldn't allow Kevin to touch the brush.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:36 PM (w6EFb)

8 Happy Caturday everyone
And Doggies too

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 03:39 PM (Ia/+0)

9 Hey guys,

Update on our cats.

https://tinyurl.com/dg65258

Going to read thread thoroughly now.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 03:44 PM (2F0/Y)

10 Good view of his snaggle ears. He was roughed up pretty bad, but the scabs on his head are gone now. He's very sweet but not shy about setting boundaries. I typically sit on the back porch and he'll jump onto the table and meow hello, then rub his head against me. This is the cat that sent both me and Publius to the urgent care with bites last summer.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:44 PM (w6EFb)

11 Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2026 03:35 PM

She certainly doesn't look like a street cat now!

Posted by: KT at June 20, 2026 03:45 PM (rdeQO)

12 Meow...

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at June 20, 2026 03:48 PM (sAmhv)

13 Awww, all the pet morons are cute.

Bill in FL I am sorry for the loss of your Emma. She was beautiful.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 03:48 PM (2F0/Y)

14 Great photos
Red wasp got me again while putting fuel in the tractor. Can’t imagine what snake venom feels like.

Posted by: Billythesquid at June 20, 2026 03:48 PM (nEiEH)

15 A chameleon might have been more successful at catching flies than my two cats when they were young.
Now crickets even in older age they were deadly.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 03:50 PM (Ia/+0)

16 Afternoon, pet folken!

Cloudy and thunder-grumbling here. Thunder doesn't bother the cats -- not like the arrival of strangers or the roar of the vacuum cleaner.

A King Charles Spaniel -- I expect the breed is named for the second Charles of England? Though when I look it up, I see that the separate breed, the Cavalier King Charles, was developed by John Churchill, Duke of Marlborough. He was the husband of Queen Anne's great confidant (and probably manipulator), Sarah (Jennings) Churchill. In any case, Gideon is a beauty. That chestnut color against the pur white is striking.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 03:50 PM (wzUl9)

17 RIP Emma.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:50 PM (w6EFb)

18 PETZZZ

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 03:53 PM (tcsrY)

19 Sakuraza looks quite fluffy and content now!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:53 PM (w6EFb)

20 No, I can't imagine myself raising even a colorful spider as a pet. And most reptiles don't interest me. The chameleon in the video provides a valuable service for his human, though -- much as black Stirling cat does when he spots wasps. His first summer I had several that got in here somehow. I learned to look where he was looking when he would develop that fixed, "I want to kill something") stare.

Naturally I didn't want him to try to kill the thing and maybe get stung. I'd flatten the wasp with a magazine, then give him a kitty treat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 03:54 PM (wzUl9)

21 Thanks for another great pet thread, KT. Lots of good pictures that go along with good memories, especially of those who have crossed the rainbow bridge. And I loved the spider mating dance video.

Posted by: Retired, thank God at June 20, 2026 03:54 PM (va0Yo)

22 My remaining cats like being scratched on their bellies. They'll even come over to me and flop down on the carpet with their bellies to me...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026 03:56 PM (l3cgK)

23 Greetings from Sakuraza. A year ago, she was living in the streets.

https://is.gd/ZU2Za3
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2026

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Another beauty!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 03:56 PM (wzUl9)

24 Nice looking spider. I wouldn't even mess with it unless it camped out in my bedroom and tried to extract nutrients from the back of my neck.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026 03:59 PM (fkjGs)

25 Della came outside this morning and actually caught a bird and ate it, then puked. I disapprove of the bird hunting in general, but appreciate that she was bold enough to do it. I guess the buspirone helped with her reticence in dealing with Bunny and Sammy outside.

It has not, however, helped with her peeing in stupid places, like bathmats. I have to toss all of the bathmats and come up with something rubber to replace them. Maybe gel mats like for the kitchen, I don't know.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:01 PM (w6EFb)

26 Joyenz, I've done some math on the use of Feline Pine litter pellets vs. Walmart's Special Kitty clay jug. (No, this is not *real* math, but economics.) The 20-lb. bag of FP costs $12, and lasts for about three litter pan changes, at around 7-9 days each. Thus, about $4 per pan change.

The SK clay litter is 14 lbs., and costs $7; and I get only one litter filling out of it. The FP runs, then, a bit less than half the cost of the clay litter per pan change. The Pine also seems lighter in weight when it's turned into sawdust at the end of a 7-9 day period, so it's less trouble to lug out to the dumpster.

Winning!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:02 PM (wzUl9)

27 Sammy just arrived and drooled into my coffee cup. Ugh.

He's a big-time drooler.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:04 PM (w6EFb)

28 Time for the porkchop seasoning ritual.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 04:05 PM (LHPAg)

29 I wonder if we'll get a picture or two of Ace's crows.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 04:07 PM (qx7Zg)

30 Oops -- I meant to say "The FP runs, then, a bit more than half the cost of the clay litter per pan change." If you extend the comparison over three weeks, you get $12 for Feline Pine, and $21 for Walmart's clay litter.

Which is getting hard to find in the small 14 lb. jug. At some stores, so is the Feline Pine.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:08 PM (wzUl9)

31 29 He really needs to send KT a photo.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:08 PM (w6EFb)

32 Red wasp got me again
Always have a small child to dab jam on

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 04:08 PM (Kt19C)

33 The dancing spiders are amazing.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 20, 2026 04:09 PM (CHHv1)

34 And I loved the spider mating dance video.
Posted by: Retired, thank God

"Dude, could you be more gay?" - male black widow, chilling at the bar

"At least I'll be alive tomorrow morning." - male maratus, dancing fabulously

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 04:09 PM (VHUov)

35 I've moved Publius' ficus out of the bathroom and onto the back porch. Maybe a put a fourth little box there for Della.

Purry is a litter box asshole. He kicks it around like crazy and breaks up the poop into little pieces, and I think it offends Della.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:10 PM (w6EFb)

36 ice looking spider. I wouldn't even mess with it unless it camped out in my bedroom and tried to extract nutrients from the back of my neck.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026

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My mother, who grew up on a farm, always told me to leave spiders alone, as "They eat other things you don't want in your house." So I still leave them be.

Spiders on my car, however, I don't want getting inside it. (I've had it happen on other cars. You haven't lived until you've had a big pale spider swing down in front of your face while you're driving.) If I can brush the spider off the car without killing it, I will, but if not, c'est la vie.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:11 PM (wzUl9)

37 Litter box, not little box.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:18 PM (w6EFb)

38 You haven't lived until you've had a big bee swing down in front of your face in a motorcycle helmet while you're driving.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 04:19 PM (Kt19C)

39 Winning!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:02 PM (wzUl9)

Great to hear. We love it and makes the house smell nice. We won't use anything else again. With the cats we have, we buy the 40lb bag.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:20 PM (2F0/Y)

40 Stirling is dozing in his favorite spot on the floor, at the far end of the couch. I don't know where his little sister Dagny is; probably in her sauna, the bedroom window.

He tried to bully her the other day, and I actually heard her growl at him. I'd never heard her growl before -- and I've never heard him do it at all. I keep telling her, "Swat him across the nose; he'll leave you alone." But she does not have his reach, I guess.

He thinks she's fun to play with and chase; I somehow think she doesn't like him that much. I never see them sleeping together or grooming each other, not recently anyway. They did sleep together, with me, during the cold times this past winter.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:21 PM (wzUl9)

41 Great to hear. We love it and makes the house smell nice. We won't use anything else again. With the cats we have, we buy the 40lb bag.
Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026

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I did buy the 40 lb. bag at first, but now the stores near me, if they have the stuff in stock, offer only the 20. If I see a 40, I'll grab it.

The FP does provide a better scent. The local utility guys were here Monday installing a new thermostat and other items, and were surprised that I had cats. "It doesn't smell!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:23 PM (wzUl9)

42 Speaking of animals: The film version (1945?) of Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings' novel The Yearling with Gregory Peck and Jane Wyman, is on Movies! this evening at 7 Central. I've never read it, and thought the title animal was a colt, but apparently it's a fawn.

The film is in color, so even Miss Linda should enjoy it. She dislikes B & W films. It depends, I suppose, on what you grew up with. At home we only had a B & W TV. Didn't get my first color set until 1984.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:30 PM (wzUl9)

43 Not sure what's going on here, but the number of people killed by dogs seems to have soared. Too many links to list, but search "killed by dogs NC"

Posted by: Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? at June 20, 2026 04:32 PM (XeU6L)

44 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:23 PM (wzUl9)

We order the 40lb from Walmart online. My sister works at Walmart, so she gets a 10% discount and Walmart+ for free, so it works really well for us financially.

We have never found the 40lb in-store. For in-store purchase, we would have to drive an hour down to the closest Petsmart.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:32 PM (2F0/Y)

45 You haven't lived until you've had a big bee swing down in front of your face in a motorcycle helmet while you're driving.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats
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This leads to a very abrupt, barely controlled stop.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2026 04:36 PM (XeU6L)

46 Afternoon, All. Back from the MoMe.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:38 PM (77rzZ)

47 1 CBD = Cat’s Black Dildo

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:41 PM (77rzZ)

48 We have never found the 40lb in-store. For in-store purchase [of Feline Pine], we would have to drive an hour down to the closest Petsmart.
Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026

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And they probably charge 50% more at Petsmart than at Walmart.

Once I move and get settled, I may buy it online at WM. My experience with WM delivery is not great, though it could be the kind of people they hire to run deliveries here.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:43 PM (wzUl9)

49 47 LOL!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:44 PM (w6EFb)

50 The thunder continues to roll. (Apologies to the writer of Garth Brooks' early song.) Good thing I did not wash the car this am.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:46 PM (wzUl9)

51
Not gonna click that "pet" spider. Watching a spider move is worse than watching one parked.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 04:47 PM (XJ22o)

52 You haven't lived until you've had a big bee swing down in front of your face in a motorcycle helmet while you're driving.

I once inadvertently rode into a swarm of cicadas doing 60 mph. That was...uh...interesting.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 20, 2026 04:47 PM (ceJ0R)

53 Bugs generally don't make good pets. Sorry to go off-topic.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 20, 2026 04:54 PM (ceJ0R)

54 Afternoon, All. Back from the MoMe.
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:38 PM (77rzZ)

Hey Bulg!

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:55 PM (2F0/Y)

55 Hey, Joyenz! How art thou?

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:56 PM (77rzZ)

56 Once I move and get settled, I may buy it online at WM. My experience with WM delivery is not great, though it could be the kind of people they hire to run deliveries here.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:43 PM (wzUl9)

My sister works in the OGP department (online shopping). We have had no issues with the delivery people. I've noticed a lot of people complain about doordash etc in other cities and states, but we have never experiences those issues where we live.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:58 PM (2F0/Y)

57 Hey, Joyenz! How art thou?
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:56 PM (77rzZ)

Doing alright, how about you? How's the job going?

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:59 PM (2F0/Y)

58 Horse bedding pellets work well for cat litter and much cheaper than feline pine.

Posted by: argie at June 20, 2026 04:59 PM (6lIeU)

59 57 Joyenz, my sister died on Sunday. I was about to forswear the MoMe (too soon, I thought), but the Horde talked me out of it, and I’m glad they did. It did me a lot of good.

Since it’s summer, the tutoring biz has kinda slacked off. Hopefully, it will pick up again come late summer.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:04 PM (77rzZ)

60 "She certainly doesn't look like a street cat now!"

But she is still not quite used to the idea that she has safety and food now.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2026 05:04 PM (f0sNM)

61 58 Horse bedding pellets work well for cat litter and much cheaper than feline pine.
Posted by: argie at June 20, 2026

***
I guess you'd buy those at Tractor Supply or any of the farm and feed places?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:05 PM (wzUl9)

62 Time I got cleaned up a little before dinner. I'll stop back in for the Hobby Thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:06 PM (wzUl9)

63 Black cats blacks what you gonna do,
what you gonna do when they come for you?

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 05:08 PM (LHPAg)

64 Gideon barking at the black bear in the tree reminds me of Travels With Charley. Steinbeck describes Charley, an elderly standard poodle, as tender hearted toward a biscuit and wouldn't disturb an earnest caterpillar. Driving through Yellowstone Park every time they saw a bear Charley went crazy trying to get at the bear seeking victory in combat or death. There seems to be something between a small dog and a bear that outweighs the pooch a hundred to one.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:09 PM (yTvNw)

65 Posted by: argie at June 20, 2026 04:59 PM (6lIeU)

Have to be careful with just using any kind of pellet. What isn't toxic to a horse can be toxic to a cat. Oils etc need to be considered carefully.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 05:09 PM (2F0/Y)

66 Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:04 PM (77rzZ)

I'm sorry to hear about your sister. Sending hugs your way.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 05:11 PM (2F0/Y)

67 Complete strangers helped to save her dog's life. Sunny Skyz site;

https://tinyurl.com/5yccfe4y

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 05:11 PM (OYsYV)

68 Lucy the Fink sends snorty snotty greetings.

Vet appt Monday. I think she needs abx for her long term sinus issues. At least I hope they let me try. I’m not going to do the X-rays and ct scans I know they will try to sell me. I don’t spend that much on my own “healthcare (such that it is).

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 05:11 PM (A5RD0)

69 66 Thank you, Joyenz.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:12 PM (77rzZ)

70 That sign in the top picture is so funny and so true.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:14 PM (yTvNw)

71 HOBBY NOOD

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:31 PM (Ia/+0)

72 My daughter, who introduced me to cat ownership, uses lightweight litter. When I tried it, my marmalade boy sent it flying to the next room. So I use heavy gravel. No dust.

I was told 1 more litter box than number of cats. So I have 3, identical, bought at the same time. They both use the one in my bedroom 90% of the time to pee, the one in the laundry 90% of the time to poop, and the one in the garage, which is the most convenient, hardly at all. Anybody else find that kind of behavior?

Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 05:32 PM (iIAkP)

73 Thunder bumpulations going on here, too. Mostly off to the South, so far. Wind coming from the North.

Sunshine one minute, showers and clouds the next.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:35 PM (1z8ji)

74 ((HUGS)). Bill in Florida. Emma was very beautiful.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 20, 2026 05:37 PM (CFj4+)

75 All the boys are cuddling on the bed. It’s adorable.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 05:38 PM (Wmg4n)

76 Awesome pets! And wildlife.

Cat got a hot breakfast yesterday-- I found *parts* on the patio doormat. Urk.

Then he got a dove last night. Lightning quick, he jumped down from deck and came back up with the bird. He proceeded to the doormat, just in view from where I sit at the computer. Not wanting to watch, I closed the drapes. Just *knew* there would be huge mess to clean...

No mess this morning. I figured there'd be feathers all over the deck and, um, leftovers on the mat again. Nope. Birdy either got away or he took it somewhere else to dine.

LOL. Critters. :shrug:

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 05:44 PM (rdVOm)

77 Wonderful moron pet pictures today, and I am so sorry about beautiful Emma. And my hostas are not happy about another deer entering the world.

Thanks KT!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 20, 2026 06:12 PM (Ha3no)

78 Just got back from my grandaughter's dance recital. That's my boy Gideon the bear hunter.

Posted by: EyeofSauron at June 20, 2026 07:33 PM (G6FGs)

Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, June 20

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My little garden has been pretty colorful and a delight to look at out the window on a 90 degree day. Here's a couple photos of my Tequila and lime Daylilies.

Didn't realize that each blossom actually only last for a day til Hrothgar mentioned it.
In one picture you can see the delicate pink hydrangeas. I was initially disappointed that they didn't get those big rounded flowers but grew to like how delicate they look.

Sharon(willow's apprentice)

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Daylilies and hydrangeas both come in different flower forms. The daylilies are spectacular, and the color of the hydrangeas looks nice with them.


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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

We have updates from Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar from May 15 and from more recently today.

May 15:

In some ways, plants are pretty uneventful. Most flowers on my plants have fallen off, and tiny little fruit are starting. Little baby quince fruit starting under the dying flower. The North Star cherry tree has always produced massive harvests, despite being fairly small and young still.

The side of my house is overgrown with grape and kiwi vines, so I put up some ghetto "trellising" to help if grow out more. We'll see how well it holds up. Last year we had quite a few grapes. . . but raccoons ate them all.

Okay, I lied. The Pawpaw tree is native, and always a little behind the other fruit trees, so it still has its weird, brownish bell-like flowers.

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They are so interesting.

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June update:

Lots of fruit and berries growing at the homestead, but with a move coming up, I haven't harvested like I usually do. Tons of mulberries and wild raspberries ready to pick, and finally a few pawpaw fruit on our young trees!

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The berries look great. Quince are coming along. The pawpaws have made fast progress since the blossoms last month!

We have just a few grape vines on the side of the house, but they produce a ridiculous amount of fruit. Problem is keeping the critters out long enough to let them fully ripen and harvest.

Saw a little turtle on the walking trail. Had a weird worm looking thing on the back of his shell...maybe a leech? Ewww.

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Any suggestions on keeping critters out of the grapes?

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Know what's on the back of that turtle?

Oh! I saw a mass of bright yellow mushrooms growing along a local path. Wife said they're "Golden Oyster", edible and invasive. I brought a backpack and hopped the fence on my next walk (chain-link fence to keep people away from the train tracks), and they were JUST out of reach. And, I pulled something trying to reach for them lol.

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Take care of yourself. Are you really moving?

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Gardens of The Horde

Hello KT!

I have been meaning to send pictures of my patio efforts for some time now! Things are growing and blooming and the bees seem to be very happy. My sunflowers are getting tall and the flowers are starting to bud-soon

Bee balm is blooming:

The Spiderwort has really done well. I chose a sunny/shady spot:

Thanks as always for providing such a lovely spot on the internet!

Mrs. Leggy

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I can see why the bees would be happy and will be happier when your sunflowers bloom.


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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, June 13


I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.


Posted by: K.T. at 01:32 PM




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1 Thank you KT!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 01:39 PM (B0dAE)

2 Last house's neighbor put sheer green bags over each grape bunch to keep critters away, it seemed to work.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 01:41 PM (B0dAE)

3 70° and sunny in van nuys. Feels hotter.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 01:44 PM (Kt19C)

4 I am turning cabbages into sauerkraut this week. I planted a dozen, and they all turned out lovely. Based on this year's attempt I think I can get twice as many in next year. Homegrown cabbages taste better than the store bought ones for some reason.

I am just about to start digging potatoes, the vines have flowered and dropped, which indicates that I can dig some new potatoes. I wait until the vines die back to dig for the ones I am going to store for winter.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 01:45 PM (rbvCR)

5 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Only thing have accomplished is a bigger leaf pile that was over my scap metal pile

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 01:49 PM (Ia/+0)

6 Did I get Mrs. Leggy's photos fixed?

Posted by: KT at June 20, 2026 01:54 PM (rdeQO)

7 Admiral Ackbar, those photos could be from our yard. We must be is about the same zone.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 02:11 PM (vFG9F)

8 "in" about the same zone.

I'm almost done with the lawn. I had to take a break and eat lunch. It's only 85 out there but that humidity will choke you.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 02:16 PM (vFG9F)

9 Yes you did! Thanks! I had a lot of trouble with the interwebs this week. I had more pictures but I kept getting error messages. I will send more next week.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at June 20, 2026 02:42 PM (dyL4B)

10 I love those spideworts! Beautiful deep color; I have some I transplanted from the woods around here into my yard, they do very well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 02:42 PM (jxNsH)

11 Vegetable patch is proceeding apace. I swapped some of my flourishing dill for some kale and spinach and made a terrific salad; the lady said she would make gnocchi with chicken stock and dill. Mmmm...

I'm finally seeing butterflies around the vegetable garden, which has many pollinator flowers. The perennial coneflowers are YUGE and luxurious. My butterfly weed at home is finally getting ready to bloom.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 02:42 PM (kpS4V)

12 7 Admiral Ackbar, those photos could be from our yard. We must be is about the same zone.
Posted by: fd

I live in central Iowa. For now...

Take care of yourself. Are you really moving?

I'll be starting a new job in Hawaii soon. We'll keep the Iowa house for the immediate future, and I'll just be in a small apartment to start. Should provide plenty of interesting new Garden Thread photo opportunities...

Posted by: Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar at June 20, 2026 02:48 PM (ycI94)

13 I enjoy seeing the Horde's gardening skillz because I have none of my own. I am trying 3 tomato plants this year. Yesterday I spotted the first wee green tomato! My goal this year is to have a few 'maters to share.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 02:49 PM (lOlUK)

14 The Netherlands are trouncing Sweden in eurofag kickball.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 02:50 PM (A5RD0)

15 It's been a frustrating week as I am still fighting a cold and had a lawn tractor delivered. It is still sitting in the container in the front yard. I need to put the seat on and the steering wheel shaft. It's more than I need but will help me with projects involving moving stuff and allow me to cut the grass.

Out of the trees I planted, the Asian pears are the slowest to grow. One never came out of dormancy. I pulled that and planted a pecan there. Garden wise, I can't buy the starts at the local store. They just don't do well. I do have a cold frame to put together so will make that a priority. I have one rose and some comfrey plants to plant. And I got seeds for a Homesteaders Kaleidiscopic Perennial Kale Grex fromThe Experimental Farm Network. I mentioned to someone on Solomon's group that I wanted to plant greens to reseed themselves and he suggested these. I think I still have variegated collard seed too. I have this idea f how to make it easier and moreproductive to garden but it's not there yet.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 20, 2026 02:52 PM (bkuEU)

16 flowers are a poppin' down here in south America! Rain is keeping things happy this year.

Posted by: DanMan at June 20, 2026 02:56 PM (8uzBS)

17 https://tinyurl.com/y9wdk47c

Not really a garden post, per se, but very Alaskan.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 20, 2026 02:57 PM (bl07w)

18 Is there a Meemaw tree?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 20, 2026 03:15 PM (cWLG3)

19 Oh boy the park!
I can kill some ducks!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 03:17 PM (Kt19C)

20 I just spent 3 hours in the yard and I haven't even started on the mowing. I was just going to chop kudzu along the fence, which is a half hour job at most, but I started working on a overgrown bush/tree that had been interfering with my mowing and kudzu chopping. I was horrified to realize how far it was growing over into the neighbor's yard. As I got deeper in I saw that one of the trunks is partially broken. Next thing I knew it had been 3 hours (I did come in for water breaks).

I think the whole thing needs to come down because it's been nothing but trouble. I recently bought a battery powered chainsaw (12 inch) for such a time as this, but I'm still working up the courage to try it.

But I think the neighbors and I - mostly they - have made progress in the War on Kudzu. Would you believe the previous owner of my house actually PLANTED the kudzu?

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 03:19 PM (lOlUK)

21 battery powered chainsaw (12 inch)

Bayonet.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 03:22 PM (Kt19C)

22 Beautiful gardens of teh Horde!

I never thought about it, but daylilies do only last for a day. That's why you need lots of blooms. My Shattered Glass daylily plant had only 2 blooms; maybe it will develop more over the years. They bloomed and died before I had a chance to capture their lemon yellow glory.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:29 PM (w6EFb)

23 ".... I recently bought a battery powered chainsaw (12 inch) for such a time as this, but I'm still working up the courage to try it.

But I think the neighbors and I - mostly they - have made progress in the War on Kudzu. Would you believe the previous owner of my house actually PLANTED the kudzu?
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 03:19 PM (lOlUK)"
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I felt trepidacious about firing up my Ryobi chain saw, loving all my digits and appendages right where they are, but after watching a YT video or two, I became a convert. Nay, an aficionado.

Buy a hockey mask and really freak out the neighbors.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 03:31 PM (kpS4V)

24 Cattle will eat kudzu.

Posted by: Case at June 20, 2026 03:32 PM (IY9No)

25 Happy Summer Solstice everyone!

AKA the longest day

Posted by: kallisto at June 20, 2026 03:39 PM (kD8Fh)

26 Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar at June 20, 2026 02:48 PM

Wow! Iowa to Hawaii is a move! And keeping the Iowa house, with its survival foods!

Posted by: KT at June 20, 2026 03:40 PM (rdeQO)

27 I felt trepidacious about firing up my Ryobi chain saw, loving all my digits and appendages right where they are, but after watching a YT video or two, I became a convert. Nay, an aficionado.

Buy a hockey mask and really freak out the neighbors.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
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I have cool neighbors, they would get a kick out of it.

I need to Read the Manual and watch some vids. But I have learned how to use things like firearms and a weedwhacker so maybe I can do this too.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 03:43 PM (lOlUK)

28 Cattle will eat kudzu.
Posted by: Case
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I only have a 1/2 acre. Maybe I can rent a goat?

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 03:44 PM (lOlUK)

29 I love the spiderwort. None of mine has come back since the fence was removed, nor the bleeding heart nor any of the lilies.

While I was gone for a weekend, critters ate the peas to the dirt and chewed the tops of most of the surviving Jerusalem artichokes. Only one of the onions came up; no garlic. Someone said I planted the garlic too deep - the same someone who told me how deep to plant them.

On the bright side, the onion that came up is an "walking" onion that already has two offshoots at its top. And there are two Jerusalem artichokes poking up behind the rhubarb. They're too tall now for rabbits, although the squirrels might still dig them up.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 04:02 PM (ysTZR)

30 Good afternoon all.
Just back from the MoMe. We had a perfect day, clear, warm but nice breeze off the river. Lots of people out and about but we had a great area that let us move around but out of the way of others enjoying the day.
I bought another tomato and jalapeño plant. Everything doing so well I wish I had more room.
Have a great week.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2026 04:39 PM (kJmSS)

31 I don’t know how spiderworts got their name, but when I transplanted one, I saw that the rootball looked like some bizarre, giant tarantula. Never seen another plant with a root system like that! First time I saw it I thought “oh so THAT’S why you’re called a spiderwort!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 05:40 PM (nuNhM)

32 Whats on the back of that turtle are turtle leeches, which suck the turtles blood.

Posted by: Tony Litwin at June 21, 2026 07:13 AM (yW7Qk)

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