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Pimps and Professors at "HustlerU.," Andrew and Tristan Tate, Arrested by US Marshals After Extradition Request by UK for Rape Charges

I didn't jump to condemn these guys three years ago when the entire leftwing social media ecosystem acted with lightning speed to cancel them. We've all seen a lot of good people canceled by the left.

On the other hand, I didn't defend them, because: I don't know anything about them and considering that their business seems to be, openly, pimping and prostitution, I didn't really think they deserved much of my time or mental exertion, nor much of yours.

I still don't know much about them, apart from them bragging they con women (and girls) into the exciting life of online prostitution by using the "loverboy" tactic of making them emotionally dependent on their pimps, then pimping them out. Which is a standard pimp tactic. These guys didn't invent it. It was created at a laboratory at "Hustler U."

And now Trump is honoring a UK request for extradition on rape/child exploitation charges.

Trump isn't always right, of course.

But these guys sound like any other douchebag criminal: Everyone is just conspiring against me (and my pimp business and pimp school).

OSINTdefender
@sentdefender
Both Andrew and Tristan Tate have been arrested by U.S. Marshals outside of a private event in Miami, Florida, following an extradition request by the UK Government against the brothers on over fifty charges related to rape, arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation, assault occasioning actual bodily harm, as well as additional charges relating to illegal child images and pornography.

Yashar Ali 🐘
@yashar
Jul 18
BREAKING
Andrew and Tristan Tate have been arrested in Miami by the U.S. Marshals Service.
Statement below from the U.K.'s Crown Prosecution Service about additional charges being filed against the brothers.
The Tate brothers are now facing a total of 59 charges:
42 against Andrew Tate
17 against Tristan Tate
"Andrew Tate, 39, is being charged with seven further counts of rape, three counts of arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation, three counts of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and 19 additional charges for offences relating to indecent images of a child and extreme pornography.
Tristan Tate, 38, is being charged with one count of sexual assault, two counts of rape and three counts of arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation."

Both Andrew and Tristan Tate have been arrested by U.S. Marshals outside of a private event in Miami, Florida, following an extradition request by the UK Government against the brothers on over fifty charges related to rape, arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual… pic.twitter.com/zW9qOOhlFU
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) July 19, 2026

Andrew Tate in Miami in 2025: "Come get me, arrest me. You think I sleep with a full phone of evidence. You think I don't wipe my phone every night."

CUT TO Andrew Tate in 2026 trying and failing to hand his phone off to his bodyguard while being arrested in Miami. pic.twitter.com/zepqVRZ88G
— Nathan Livingstone (MilkBarTV) (@TheMilkBarTV) July 20, 2026

Colin Wright makes a point: During the Age of Woke, we've developed a reflex to defend anyone being targeted by the Regime.

It's a very good reflex and we should keep that reflex.

But it is only a reflex -- that is, a default reaction. It's not a rule that can or should be followed slavishly. But I keep seeing people treat these snap-judgments as if they're the culmination of their lifelong philosophical questing.

And I'm like, asshole, you made this snap decision in one second. Are you this much of an egotist to treat your one-second snap decisions as Biblical in inerrancy?

During peak woke, many of those targeted by woke activists turned out to be among the most reasonable and principled people around. That's why they were targeted.

But some commentators mistakenly came to treat it as a truism that if the woke hated someone, they must be good and… https://t.co/3D0myQbpF8
— Colin Wright (@SwipeWright) July 20, 2026

I've got nothing against snap decisions and rule of thumbs. 99% of our choices are made through quick snap decisions -- and they need to be, because we make a lot of choices during a week, both trivial and important.

But... they're still just snap decisions. Not religious text.

Speaking of woke and people unfairly targeted by The Regime: This totally sane individual and productive member of society:

Bodycam shows UCF student repeatedly screaming “Don’t say him! Say she!” during a stolen vehicle investigation—then getting pepper-sprayed and arrested.

Jarrett Preston Vick faces charges of battery on a law enforcement officer, resisting without violence, and disorderly conduct…
— NewsForce (@Newsforce) July 19, 2026

This happened in 2025, but the bodycam video is newly-released, so it is, in fact, new to the public record.

The police were on the campus investigating a stolen vehicle. The very sight of the officers "triggered" this mentally-ill monster, and he began screaming abuse at the cops, and then screaming "YOU'RE HURTING ME" when they told him he could either shut up or be arrested for disorderly conduct/impeding an investigation.

Oli London
@OliLondonTV

This is the mugshot of the blue haired transgender man who had an unhinged meltdown after being 'misgendered' by a police officer.
Jarrett Vick went on a rampage after an officer said "he is having a breakdown" before screaming "She! It's she!" in response.
The trans man, who identifies as a 'woman,' was charged with battery on law enforcement, resisting arrest, and disorderly conduct.
The incident, which occurred in 2025, went viral last week after police body cam footage was shared online.
He was listed as male in his arrest records.
Source: NY Post

This is the mugshot of the blue haired transgender man who had an unhinged meltdown after being ‘misgendered’ by a police officer.

Jarrett Vick went on a rampage after an officer said “he is having a breakdown” before screaming “She! It’s she!” in response.

The trans man, who… pic.twitter.com/e0Tyh1m2yy
— Oli London (@OliLondonTV) July 20, 2026

The skinny:

Viral police body cam video appears to show a self-described transgender Florida student freaking out on a campus police officer for "misgendering" him -- and then being hauled away in cuffs.
The footage shows a blue-haired University of Central Florida student, identified as 27-year-old Jarrett Vick, screaming at a police officer after the cop arrived at a campus building for an unrelated call.
"Why do you let those pigs get away with this? They are not supposed to be here," says Vick at the start of the video, which was filmed in February 2025 -- but released Friday by Inside The Blue TV.
The officer tells him to lower his voice, or he will be put in handcuffs, at which point Vick starts cursing out the cop.
"F--king try it. Are you threatening me? You're threatening me," Vick responds, prompting the officer to request backup on his radio.

"He is having a breakdown," says the officer, at which point Vick screams, "She! She! Just say the right pronoun!"
The officer gets out his pepper spray and orders Vick to calm down, pepper-spraying him when he doesn't calm down.
...
"Get away! F--k you! F--k you, cop!" Vick screams, at which point the exasperated university worker starts walking away.
Later, Vick is seen screaming "She!" and stomping his foot as he yells at the cop for "misgendering" him, and asks the university employee to "please just tell them to use the right pronouns" because it is causing him "a lot of distress."
Vick was eventually taken into custody in handcuffs, but not before being tased by another officer after reportedly trying to kick and swing at the cops, according to the video.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:49 PM

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:50 PM (2YhKe)

2 st!?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 03:50 PM (3Ope8)

3 It's hard out there for a pimp.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 03:50 PM (2ocoG)

4 >

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 03:51 PM (3Ope8)

5 What? no way. They can't be......Leftists retards are NEVER committing any crimes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:51 PM (2YhKe)

6 Good. Rapists should be deported.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 03:51 PM (N1tpc)

7 All blue-haired trannies should be pepper sprayed.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 03:52 PM (2ocoG)

8 How to pimp-out your girlfriends and then dress like them.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (Fi81e)

9 Sounds like the UK is overcharging.

The Tates might be scum but I doubt they're criminal.

Their real crime is talking to men in the UK about not being pathetic British cucks.

that and pimping camgirls.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (xcxpd)

10 Would this be the same UK that ignores systematic gang rape by muslims?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (viF8m)

11 So honestly, I feel if Trump's DOJ held up the extradition that it isn't just trying to cancel someone for not being woke.

The Tates always seemed skeezy, but I guess they'll get their day in court.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (sKqQm)

12 "You think I don't wipe my phone every night."

Just spitballing here but innocent people do not "wipe" their phone every night.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (0N4FZ)

13 The screaming Blue Meanie has a human name?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (to8tq)

14 Not defending the Tates, b/c I don't know, but the UK isn't exactly a bastion of justice and morals these days. On those grounds, I'd tell them to piss off. Deal with your own rapists and child traffickers first. Then we'll talk.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (QaH55)

15 I find it quite ironic that the UK wants to extradite 2 psycho f*cks from the US for rape and child endangerment/molestation when they turn a blind eye and 'nothing to see here' with all the muslham rape gangs roaming the streets in every big city.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:54 PM (2YhKe)

16 Many on the left will defend the obvious dude pretending to be a woman because screeching, violent tantrums are the correct response to being offended.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 03:54 PM (N1tpc)

17 I vaguely recall their were charges in...Romania? Against the Tates that ended up being dropped which sounds a lot like these charges.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:54 PM (sKqQm)

18 I guess you can't just shrug it off and laugh anymore because these freaks will respond in a way that is tempting to deal with in a fairly physical manner. Seriously, that blue haired freak needed a hickory shampoo in the worst way and if he knew he would get it he wouldn't be acting like that.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 03:54 PM (3Ope8)

19 "Are you threatening me? You're threatening me"

lol, kind of a woke Cornholio!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 03:55 PM (VyBeY)

20 I think the Tate’s were hanging out in Romania or something when it got too hot there.

Posted by: Accomack at July 20, 2026 03:55 PM (KQ27X)

21 I dont really follow this stuff wither, but I do think 99% of this is feminist screeching and maybe 1% of this is about actual criminal activity.

Lets just be honest and say everyone involved in OnlyFans is basically facilitating an online brothel. Where are the arrest warrants and extraditions for these people?

Posted by: Leupold at July 20, 2026 03:55 PM (eIzlH)

22 and congrats to Sponge

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2026 03:55 PM (xcxpd)

23 Camgirls?

Phew, not cat-girls.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 03:55 PM (to8tq)

24 Wait, the UK is against rape now. huh?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 03:55 PM (n5tGW)

25 I agree with your reasoning: I want to be thoughtful about I support. Don't want to be ridiculous like Warren endorsing Nazi's and terrorist sympathizers...

Posted by: Iris at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (286+n)

26 13 The screaming Blue Meanie has a human name?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (to8tq)

No. He is an animal and has forgotten the face of his father.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (xcxpd)

27 "You think I don't wipe my phone every night."

Just spitballing here but innocent people do not "wipe" their phone every night.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (0N4FZ)

At some point that will not be true, but you're correct today.

(Or if you live in China, but wiping won't matter because they've already collected your data the moment you use it.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (N1tpc)

28 I know nothing about the Tate's except the left and the UK government really really are after them.Muslim child diddlers not so much ofc.

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (YwEeS)

29 >>>"Are you threatening me? You're threatening me"

lol, kind of a woke Cornholio

lol, yes

Posted by: ace at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (1wjle)

30 My uninformed take on the Tates is that they were provided A positive view of masculinity in an era where any view was seen as toxic. This view leaned into every toxic attribute because there's a trollish nature to the whole affair.

This invited a lot of hyperbole for what I thought was little more than a sideshow on the internet.

I then retreated to the forests where I read Marcus Aurelius, the only true pastime of a man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (UTxF6)

31 That is one ugly broad.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (Swh6w)

32 It's funny in the video where the cop finally says "fine, she" or whatever and it stops and politely says "Thank you" then continues to fight being arrested.

Tox. Screen.

Make it public. It's a public health issue and EVERYONE should know what role Big Pharma played in destroying that person's brain to that point.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:57 PM (2YhKe)

33 I find it quite ironic that the UK wants to extradite 2 psycho f*cks from the US for rape and child endangerment/molestation when they turn a blind eye and 'nothing to see here' with all the muslham rape gangs roaming the streets in every big city.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:54 PM (2YhKe)

DUH. They're white.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 03:57 PM (N1tpc)

34 Andrew Tate did an interview with Piers Morgan and beat the snot out of the Brit.

Morgan is more reasonable then some Brits I guess but he came in like Cathy Newman interviewing Jordan Peterson...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:57 PM (sKqQm)

35 Jarrett Vick went on a rampage after an officer said "he is having a breakdown" before screaming "She! It's she!" in response.
......

Shouldn't have lied to the police.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2026 03:57 PM (UjdFS)

36 "The Tates always seemed skeezy"

skeezy as all hell. zero sympathy.

*taps meter glass*

yup, zero

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 03:57 PM (VyBeY)

37 Its nice that the UK finally found a foreigner that they're willing to convict for rape.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 20, 2026 03:57 PM (WYStd)

38 and congrats to Sponge
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2026 03:55 PM (xcxpd)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:57 PM (2YhKe)

39 I have only ever seen Tate in clips on other streams.

He was 'you sound vaccinated' wasn't he? That was a good line.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 03:58 PM (zZu0s)

40 Beat these psychos down, no quarter.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 03:58 PM (sYM3s)

41 Andrew and Tristan Tate are scumbags and pimps.

But the UK government decides to go whole hog after them, including extradition, while it turned a blind eye for decades to thousands of British girls being forcibly gang-raped by Pakistanis? While it still gives shockingly lenient sentences to rapes -- even child rapes -- by Muslims and other invaders?

Eh ... I smell a rat. Fuck the UK.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:58 PM (iFTx/)

42 Yeah the Tate brothers are shit people.

Cool, United Kingdom, now that we're prosecuting sex crimes to the point that you're willing to ask the US to extradite them to face prosecution, that you're going to get cracking on those Muslim grooming gangs, eh?

LMFAO

Posted by: ballistic at July 20, 2026 03:58 PM (oqH4h)

43 LEAVE ME ALONE!!! -- Guy who began the encounter by shrieking at a cop.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:58 PM (Fi81e)

44 Were there no brown men in the UK they could've arrested before branching out the law to this side of the pond? Long ass arm, yo.

Posted by: nckate at July 20, 2026 03:58 PM (enNUy)

45 Dean Wormer, "son, being a disheveled freak with stringy blue hair and red crocs is no way to go through life."

Blue Meanie, "Misgender!!! Eeekkk!! Ooookkk!!!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (to8tq)

46 SHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tasmanian Purple Haired She at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (/FSYM)

47 43 LEAVE ME ALONE!!! -- Guy who began the encounter by shrieking at a cop.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:58 PM (Fi81e)

======

"Sir, this is a Wendy's."

"SIR?!?!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (UTxF6)

48 My uninformed take on the Tates is that they were provided A positive view of masculinity in an era where any view was seen as toxic. This view leaned into every toxic attribute because there's a trollish nature to the whole affair.

The Tates took the existing man-o-sphere stuff and cranked it to 11. Which the FNM loved because now they had just the people they wanted to be the face of the man-o-sphere

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (sKqQm)

49 Its nice that the UK finally found a foreigner that they're willing to convict for rape.
Posted by: Defenestratus at July 20, 2026 03:57 PM (WYStd)

This. Wanna bet they get a stiffer sentence than the ringleader of the Rotterham rape gangs?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (zZu0s)

50 I'm right where you are Ace.

I've heard of them, heard about what they do, and never gave it much more thought than that.

Now I'm 100% sure I don't like either of the Tate brothers just based on the outfit Andrew is wearing in the arrest video.

Whoever thought men would look good in tight, calf-length, pants should be sent back to 1750 where they came from and then shot.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (6ydKt)

51 (Or if you live in China, but wiping won't matter because they've already collected your data the moment you use it.)
_-_
Pretty sure it's the same case here.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (JWDez)

52 DUH. They're white.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 03:57 PM (N1tpc)

F*ck. My bad......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (2YhKe)

53 23, yeah, I had to read that twice, too

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (VyBeY)

54 >>>"F--king try it. Are you threatening me? You're threatening me," Vick responds, prompting the officer to request backup on his radio.

Escalating is not a tactic that's works very well against cops. Their trained response will be to escalate even more. They will be the ones with the most willingness to use force.

Dumb fuck.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (syz1S)

55 She.

Posted by: The Knights Who Say She at July 20, 2026 04:00 PM (/FSYM)

56 I then retreated to the forests where I read Marcus Aurelius, the only true pastime of a man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (UTxF6)

No Seneca?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 04:00 PM (N1tpc)

57 56 I then retreated to the forests where I read Marcus Aurelius, the only true pastime of a man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (UTxF6)

No Seneca?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 04:00 PM (N1tpc)

======

Seneca was a pimp.

He could never outfight Santino.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 04:00 PM (UTxF6)

58 Camgirls?

Phew, not cat-girls.

Pretty sure there are cat girl cam girls.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (sKqQm)

59 So the difference between the Tates and the Muzzies in the UK? Is it only skin tone or hair

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (NnhvP)

60 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 03:54 PM (3Ope

Must have been male cops. Female cops would have *had* to shoot him when he got aggressive.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (lFFaq)

61 Whoever thought men would look good in tight, calf-length, pants should be sent back to 1750 where they came from and then shot.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (6ydKt)

Calf length pants are gay. *bangs gavel*

All those in favor?

Wait, aren't those Capri pants?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (zZu0s)

62 LEAVE ME ALONE!!! -- Guy who began the encounter by shrieking at a cop.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:58 PM (Fi81e)

This is what you get when you let BLaMtifa destroy your cities for years on end.

They all think it's OK to yell and scream and obstruct police anytime they want.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (2YhKe)

63 My uninformed take on the Tates is that they were provided A positive view of masculinity in an era where any view was seen as toxic. This view leaned into every toxic attribute because there's a trollish nature to the whole affair.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:56 PM (UTxF6)
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Which would have been more impressive had it not been preceded by How to be a Playa and Pimp Out Girls After You've Used Them.

I don't even know how much the other Tate was involved in that.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (Fi81e)

64 Dude? in purple is so flaming gay my screen's on fire.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 04:02 PM (jehhT)

65 59 So the difference between the Tates and the Muzzies in the UK? Is it only skin tone or hair

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (NnhvP)

======

The difference is that the Muslims have captured local police forces with fellow travelers who help the Muslim rape gangs.

Do the Tates have police officers as cousins? I think not!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 04:02 PM (UTxF6)

66 TJM beat me to it! Horde Mind!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 04:02 PM (VyBeY)

67 > How to pimp-out your girlfriends and then dress like them.

It's weird out there. Guys are supposed to wing it when it comes to dressing. If you dress men did during a particular era, you're a hipster douche. If you pay attention to fashion advice from places like Reddit or men's magazines, you will look gay. If you just throw on whatever feels comfortable, you'll look like an unemployed slob.

Many guys just revert to wearing whatever everyone else was wearing when they were in high school. Or if they're in sales or something social, they might just dress like everyone else in their industry does.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2026 04:02 PM (mkw2N)

68 Wait, aren't those Capri pants?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (zZu0s)
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For men!

Just like the European Carryall.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 04:02 PM (Fi81e)

69 Camgirls?

Phew, not cat-girls.

Pretty sure there are cat girl cam girls.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (sKqQm)

This.

So I've heard.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 04:03 PM (zZu0s)

70 The Tates aren't going to burn down a city or riot.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 04:03 PM (abScH)

71 Was it one of the Tates who said that sex with a woman was gay?

Some super macho dude personality said that in the last couple of years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 04:03 PM (UTxF6)

72 I thought the Tates were, checks notes, black, mixed.

Posted by: nckate at July 20, 2026 04:03 PM (enNUy)

73 You don't think there's people that would use reflexive distrust of the Left to con the Right into paying attention to them, do you?

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 04:03 PM (oZ51P)

74 I'm inadvertently misgendering morons on the daily.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 04:03 PM (RIvkX)

75 The terrible price one pays for not being Pakistani in the UK...tsk tsk

Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 04:04 PM (w1Bba)

76 Seneca was a pimp.

He could never outfight Santino.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 04:00 PM (UTxF6)

....seems appropriate for this thread.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 04:04 PM (N1tpc)

77 So is Jarret Vick going for the four-year old toddler with blue/black-haired sheepdog vibes?

Stomping his feet was a nice touch.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 20, 2026 04:04 PM (6ydKt)

78 Regarding the healthy reflex to not jump aboard outrage mobs, Ben Shapiro is doing a lot of bellowing recently about people who need to be canceled. He may be right in some cases. He certainly is regarding Tucker. Unfortunately Ben lost all moral authority when he joined his left wing MSM friends in the outrage mob that vilified Nick Sandmann and the Covington kids.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at July 20, 2026 04:05 PM (pjbF6)

79 Andrew Tate dresses funny.

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 04:05 PM (Gqar8)

80 I would have gladly given that screaming piece of shit two broken knees caps.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 04:05 PM (abScH)

81 Dude? in purple is so flaming gay my screen's on fire.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 04:02 PM (jehhT)
====

Guilty of a crime against good taste.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 04:06 PM (RIvkX)

82 Ryan Long had a good take on the FNM and the man-o-sphere:

So yeah we've got a problem with all these young men listening to this terrible people on line. I mean they are telling young men to get rich, get fit and then girls will flock to them.

We've tried telling them to dress like women, get fat, and stop being toxic and its like they don't even listen!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 04:06 PM (sKqQm)

83 Escalating is not a tactic that's works very well against cops. Their trained response will be to escalate even more. They will be the ones with the most willingness to use force.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 20, 2026 03:59 PM (syz1S)
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Have a buddy who is a retired cop. Their life is on the line if they aren't in control of the situation.

He told me that after a couple of months, he realized he could stop watching everybody's hands, because that's what you do as a cop.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 04:06 PM (Fi81e)

84 Regarding the healthy reflex to not jump aboard outrage mobs, Ben Shapiro is doing a lot of bellowing recently about people who need to be canceled. He may be right in some cases. He certainly is regarding Tucker. Unfortunately Ben lost all moral authority when he joined his left wing MSM friends in the outrage mob that vilified Nick Sandmann and the Covington kids.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at July 20, 2026 04:05 PM (pjbF6)

I was on the Ben Shaprio bandwagon for about a week, then got sick of his sniveling voice.

Did you know his wife is a doctor?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 04:06 PM (2YhKe)

85 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 04:02 PM (UTxF6)

That's something a lot of people in the US don't realize, although we should since a lot of our police are also minorities.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 20, 2026 04:06 PM (lFFaq)

86 Andrew Tate is multiracial and of mixed heritage. His father, Emory Tate, was African American, and his mother, Eileen Tate, is White English. He holds dual U.S. and British citizenship

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 04:06 PM (sKqQm)

87 "Bodycam shows UCF student repeatedly screaming"

Yes, these freaks are batshit.

But also yes, I think there's a heavy element of performance art here. People like this guy are hoping they'll be recorded freaking out like lunatics and it will go viral. That will increase their status in their putrid world of perversion and shit-eating.

These aren't police interactions with normal people who hope they aren't charged and nobody ever sees the bodycam video. These lunatics want to provoke the cops, want to get arrested, and want to be seen as deranged lunatics. It's the currency in their culture.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (iFTx/)

88 I still don't know much about them, apart from them being weaned on cock.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (3Qh2+)

89 I still don't know much about them, apart from them being weaned on cock.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (3Qh2+)

Pretty much.

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (GD0B3)

90 71 Was it one of the Tates who said that sex with a woman was gay?

Some super macho dude personality said that in the last couple of years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 04:03 PM (UTxF6)

David Hogg?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (zZu0s)

91 Mental illness is “contagious” to some significant degree.

Weaponized with malice aforethought, is what it looks like from out here in the cheap seats

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (Xz2QX)

92 > Ben Shapiro is doing a lot of bellowing recently about people who need to be canceled.

He's always had that instinct. Shapiro especially loves to try to dictate what the right is allowed to say or believe.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (mkw2N)

93 41 Andrew and Tristan Tate are scumbags and pimps.

But the UK government decides to go whole hog after them, including extradition, while it turned a blind eye for decades to thousands of British girls being forcibly gang-raped by Pakistanis? While it still gives shockingly lenient sentences to rapes -- even child rapes -- by Muslims and other invaders?

Eh ... I smell a rat. Fuck the UK.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

From what I remember, they made themselves unwelcome in Romania too. Sometimes criminal assholes are just criminal assholes and better off rotting in some prison cell.

"Romania
On 11 April 2022 the US embassy received a report that an American citizen was being held against her will in a property the brothers own in Pipera, Romania. Romanian police raided the home and a nearby webcam studio belonging to the Tates, where they discovered four women. Two of them, the American and another Romanian woman, told the police they were being held against their will, sparking an in-rem[a] investigation into human trafficking and rape by the Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism (DIICOT)". Also investigations in US and UK.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (E4rtv)

94 I want Tucker to keep talking. He convinces more people every time that he is a nut.

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2026 04:08 PM (YwEeS)

95 - Want something that is worth your time and mental exertion?

On utube - Promethean Action Why Trump escalated the Iran war

That should get you there and easier for you to search it than for me to tiny url...

Posted by: TeeJ at July 20, 2026 04:08 PM (dAv7M)

96 I was at a BSA summer camp this past week, and there were all manners of he-shes, chicks with ducks, trannies, and dudes in a dress.*

Funniest one was a no-shit ringer for the angry crying rainbow leftist wojak meme persyn put opposite the blond Viking dude.

* Yeah, that is an advertisement for not going to BSA camps near blue shitholes. And there was a LDS group that showed up day we were leaving.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 20, 2026 04:08 PM (dK+Kv)

97 The cop should've told Jarrett Vick to calm down. That always works with chicks!

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 20, 2026 04:08 PM (YSQQv)

98 Was it one of the Tates who said that sex with a woman was gay?

I thought that was Nick Fuentes

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 04:08 PM (sKqQm)

99 Wait, aren't those Capri pants?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 04:01 PM (zZu0s)

I think that's what women call them, but I didn't want to seem gay by calling them capri pants.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 20, 2026 04:08 PM (6ydKt)

100 I'm inadvertently misgendering morons on the daily.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 04:03 PM (RIvkX)

When I had long hair before, someone "misgendered" me.

(They were embarrassed when my bearded self turned around.)

I laughed. I can to that because I'm not lying to myself about who I am and need others to support my delusion or it falls apart.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 04:09 PM (N1tpc)

101 Blue Meanie is nutz.

Even after the cop fired off his Taser in the freak's face, he kept resisting so he did get Tased.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 04:09 PM (to8tq)

102 He's always had that instinct. Shapiro especially loves to try to dictate what the right is allowed to say or believe.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (mkw2N)

He was a major NTer in 2016.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 04:09 PM (zZu0s)

103 I think that's what women call them, but I didn't want to seem gay by calling them capri pants.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 20, 2026 04:08 PM (6ydKt)
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I don't think you could be gay for calling them capri pants.

Just wearing them.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 04:09 PM (Fi81e)

104 I was just trying to sell my book, honest!

Posted by: Velvet Jones at July 20, 2026 04:09 PM (O7YUW)

105 I would expect the alpha level hypermasculinity bursting from my comments like so many molotov cocktails would keep anyone here from mistaking me for a woman.

❤️

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 04:10 PM (oZ51P)

106 Shapiro is an asshole and honestly I wouldn't trust him as far as he could throw me (which wouldn't be far with those noodle arms)

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 04:10 PM (sKqQm)

107 Weird detail about Andrew Tate is that his father, Emory Tate, was one of the very few (if not only) black professional chess players in the United States. He wasn't world-class strong, but he was strong enough to nearly make a living out of winning chess tournaments. Highly unusual.

Posted by: zombie at July 20, 2026 04:10 PM (Av6i5)

108 The charges are very serious, there are dozens of women/girls involved, the US authorities in Florida thought it's time, the bros are sitting in a Federal Prison and a Judge will decide if they are extraditable. We have enough of our own "influencer" scum , we don't need UK influencer scum, thank you very much.

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 04:10 PM (GD0B3)

109 The slightly longer version of the blue fruit clip has a great bumper by a cop at the end:
"He definitely can't be in gen pop. They will destroy him."

Posted by: purely an academic question at July 20, 2026 04:10 PM (F/35S)

110 101 Blue Meanie is nutz.

Blue Meanie has nutz too.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 20, 2026 04:10 PM (OkYzo)

111 Mental illness is “contagious” to some significant degree.

Weaponized with malice aforethought, is what it looks like from out here in the cheap seats
Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 04:07 PM (Xz2QX)

I don't know if I'd call it contagious, but allowing mentally ill people to connect feeds the mental illness.

I would bet that a lot of our mentally ill would be better adjusted if they were cut off from online "supporters" who encourage their mental illness.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 04:10 PM (N1tpc)

112 That video is perfect to show the mental illness of the fake gender people.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 04:10 PM (n5tGW)

113 The blue hair boy is obviously insane, yet roams free because society can't bring itself to institutionalize these freaks. We'd be safer if things like that were locked up.

Sad.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 04:11 PM (jehhT)

Former DSA Member: We Started This Moderate, Wholesome Socialist Group But It Got Taken Over by Extremist Communists, Somehow

Really? I'm so surprised. Leftwing movements are never taken over by some kind of, oh, let's say "Bolshevik Faction."

Former Democratic Socialists of America member Jake Altman offered an inside look Saturday at the organization he says has been overtaken by communists -- warning the same playbook is now being used to push the Democratic Party further to the left.
"Their organization has been captured..." Altman told Fox News.
"One of my real concerns is that we see a lot of resistance to anti-communism within the DSA, even from the moderate wing of the DSA, and I think this is very, very dangerous."
Speaking on "Saturday in America," Altman warned the organization is anything but "harmless," claiming its members are "perfectly willing to cohabitate with Maoists, with Trotskyists, with Leninists" -- groups he said are intent on dismantling American institutions.
"People who want to pull down American institutions and are very clear about it. People who have this thrill to violence. That is just profoundly troubling at a time when our country is already facing many, many problems," he said.
Altman also said some aspects of the group raised his eyebrows nearly 10 years ago when, while participating in a debate on the organization's behalf, he questioned whether he was the best person to represent its trajectory.
At the time, he claimed, he was reassured that the organization's increasingly radical direction was being driven by only a small faction clustered around "Jacobin" magazine.
"I was debating with Leninists who were saying Bernie Sanders isn't a socialist, and now we're hearing that from DSA, right? Bernie Sanders, AOC, they're not real socialists," he recalled.
"So I think this is just the level of extremism and radicalism we're seeing. People in DSA will try to minimize it and say it's just a few people... they're a small minority. But... look at the executive board. It's full of this alphabet soup of extremist caucuses."
Altman urged Democrats to stand up against a "radicalized base," as far-left DSA candidates secure wins nationwide.
"These people are not operating in good faith," he said. "DSA members are not in the Democratic Party to operate in good faith."

Even Arch-Race-Lefty Van Jones is alarmed about his totally-not-communist Democrat Party being taken over by communists.

Again, how can these non-communist moderate leftist organizations keep becoming communist revolutionary groups?! Make it make sense!

Longtime CNN political commentator and Democrat Van Jones rebuked far-left activists Saturday, warning that their positions on Hamas, prisons and immigration are regressive and threatened to steer the Democratic Party in the wrong direction as socialist-backed candidates celebrated recent primary victories.

That is the Democrat Party's direction, which you approve of.

You just don't like the communists shouting it when they're supposed to just whisper it and imply it, as you do.

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"But some people in groups like the DSA are pushing an agenda FAR outside those ideals. Supporting Hamas is not progressive. 'No police, no prisons, no borders' is not progressive. Celebrating the murder of Israeli civilians is not progressive. These ideas are REGRESSIVE," Jones said.

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The ex-administration advisor to former President Barack Obama also rejected the argument that the far-left was merely advocating the type of social democracy practiced in Nordic countries.
"Some defend the far left by claiming they only want Nordic-style social democracy. If that were true, I might applaud them," Jones said. "I want those policies, too! But what does universal healthcare have to do with Hamas? With abolishing all law enforcement? With erasing all borders? With treating every wealthy person as a villain? Ideas matter. And these are terrible ideas."

Communist nepo baby and Islamist Party-Boy Zohran Mamdani claims he's just fighting for the working class but has no definition of "working class."

When pressed, he claims the "working class" is anyone being paid a salary, and includes his rich donors making up to one million dollars per year.

Mayor Mamdani struggles to define who the 'working class' is in a word salad interview

New York City's socialist mayor, Zohran Mamdani, struggled to define who the "working class" is in a word salad response to a question about the people he vows to fight for.
Mamdani, in a lengthy interview with the New York Times published over the weekend, was asked point-blank by journalist Lulu Garcia-Navarro, "How do you define the working class?"
"I think if you have to work to pay your bills, I think that that is one definition of being a part of the working class," he vaguely responded.

When pushed whether he would consider those who make $250,000 per year as working class, he said, "I haven't asked myself where it starts and stops.
"What I would say is those who are working to try and afford the basic dignities of life and aren't able to do so, I think that that is also working class. Oftentimes we're asked how we divide this country. I think there's only one majority in this country -- it's the working class," he then rambled.
Confused by the convoluted reponse, Garcia-Navarro admitted that Hizzoner's description didn't seem to "ring true," to her.
"It just seems a very easy answer to what is a complicated question," the reporter fought back. "Because politically, if you're saying everyone is the working class, or anyone that gets a salary is the working class, yes, that opens up your tent. But practically speaking, we are divided by income -- and especially if you want to tax people, where you draw those lines matter."
Mamdani then said he would draw the line at around $1 million per year -- which Garcia-Navarro pointed out could alienate potential voters such as a janitor who he's lumped in the same "working class" category as a successful lawyer.

I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:30 PM

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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:30 PM (N1tpc)

2 I think the term for most of the initial "socialist" members is "useful idiots".

Or "the first to go up against the wall after the revolution has succeeded"

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (N1tpc)

3 I guess I better nood

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (N1tpc)

4 And back

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:32 PM (N1tpc)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:32 PM (2YhKe)

6 A group with socialist in the name are surprised at who they attracted?

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 02:33 PM (hftzA)

7 Former DSA Member: We Started This Moderate, Wholesome Socialist Group But It Got Taken Over by Extremist Communists, Somehow

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Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 02:33 PM (GD0B3)

8 "Democrats shocked that their brainwashing in the schools has produced exactly what they taught people to believe."

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:33 PM (N1tpc)

9 Something something if you don’t know who the mark is at the table, you’re the mark.

Seriously, these guys are super dumb or liars.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (4KUe5)

10 The only good commie is a dead commie.

Perhaps they missed the memo.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (dK+Kv)

11 Communists took over the Democrat Party around 1968.

Posted by: davidt at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (Q+gd/)

12 My favorite part so far is that they've gone so radical that even the lefties at the "Conserving conservatism conservatively most good conservative" BullWork are balking at them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (3cUTc)

13 That was a nice, easy question designed to hand Mamdani a platform. That he f*cked it up is a testament to how unprepared he is to go off script.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (l4RKn)

14 Longtime CNN political commentator and Democrat Van Jones rebuked far-left activists Saturday, warning that their positions on Hamas, prisons and immigration are regressive and threatened to steer the Democratic Party in the wrong direction as socialist-backed candidates celebrated recent primary victories.

You're a self-avowed communist, asshole. GFY. You've been working for this your entire career.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (2YhKe)

15 If you're based on Marx--or arguably based on Owen--you are based on a fugue from reality.

There is no wonder that it goes off the rails.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (Fi81e)

16 Former DSA Member: We Started This Moderate, Wholesome Socialist Group But It Got Taken Over by Extremist Communists, Somehow

1) Bullshit.

2) You're lucky they didn't put you up against a wall and shoot you.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (v3afF)

17 That is the Democrat Party's direction, which you approve of.

You just don't like the communists shouting it when they're supposed to just whisper it and imply it, as you do.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:30 PM

Exactly. Their positions are not any different, but the older Democrats realize they can't be honest about wanting to destroy the country.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (N1tpc)

18 Shorter Van Jones: Slow your roll, you’re giving away the game!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (4KUe5)

19 > I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Real communism has never been tried. Just ask any random 22 year old recent university graduate.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (mkw2N)

20 What they seem to be warning people of is actually more akin to Maoism.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (Fi81e)

21 19 > I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Real communism has never been tried. Just ask any random 22 year old recent university graduate.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM

Wearing a Che Guevara shirt or a Mao jacket.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (hftzA)

22 No one learns from history, even as recent as 1989.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 02:36 PM (4g5V+)

23 I try to be understanding because most of these folks have had history hidden from them, rewritten and distorted with Marxist lies.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 02:36 PM (RIvkX)

24 Wearing a Che Guevara shirt or a Mao jacket.
Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (hftzA)

Those should be grounds for denaturalization and deportation.

That's my compromise position from a helicopter ride.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (N1tpc)

25 You're a self-avowed communist, asshole. GFY. You've been working for this your entire career.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (2YhKe)

I respect him because he tells the truth sometimes.

That doesn't mean that we won't be on opposite sides of the barricades...and I am a much better shot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (l4RKn)

26 I like these DSA guys and gals.

Posted by: George McGovern at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (4g5V+)

27 When pushed whether he would consider those who make $250,000 per year as working class, he said, "I haven't asked myself where it starts and stops.

"What I would say is those who are working to try and afford the basic dignities of life and aren't able to do so, I think that that is also working class. Oftentimes we're asked how we divide this country. I think there's only one majority in this country -- it's the working class," he then rambled.

NYC is the most expensive city in the country. It will NEVER be affordable by the working class. No matter WHAT your islhamic commie as does.

FOAD.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (2YhKe)

28 With communism, we don’t agree if the definition of “works.”

For a lot of these foreigners , such as Mamdani, the goal is revolution.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (4KUe5)

29 I like the meme with the lady smiling over the coffee cup saying "They're doing it again because you didn't hang them all last time."

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (3Ope8)

30 We started this moderate group devoted to starting small scale fires and then these crazy arsonists who set fires to forests took over. We’re shocked by it all.

Posted by: Arsonists of America at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (GEtfQ)

31 That doesn't mean that we won't be on opposite sides of the barricades...and I am a much better shot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (l4RKn)

Valid. I've seen you shoot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (2YhKe)

32 Has not anyone on the left read and understood my book?

Posted by: Mary Shelly at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (wVcYX)

33 This whole line that Socialism is benign and not evil, like Communism, is very strange. Communism is socialism minus the State.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (2ap+5)

34 >> People who have this thrill to violence.

It’s kinda of cute, and perhaps serendipitous they think nobody will fight back. That somehow all those people who have been fighting wars for the last twenty years or so will just surrender to a bunch of blue haired, gender confused, slightly retarded, girlish, wanna be men who have eaten one too many Hot pockets or Chipotle bowls, and watched a couple of YouTube videos.

This actually aptly defined the Democrats, who want to seize power any way they can unless it involves voter id. Fags.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (jlI90)

35 Mamdani then said he would draw the line at around $1 million per year -- which Garcia-Navarro pointed out could alienate potential voters such as a janitor who he's lumped in the same "working class" category as a successful lawyer.

There is a reason for this.

I associate with a lost of leftwing LIVs that makes strong 6 figures and will claim to be middle class.

Their argument is after paying for a multi-million dollar house, two new cars, a couple of overseas a vacation a year, and "help" at home they can barely make ends meet and are taxed too much.

So if Bomb-daddy comes out and says working class is below $100K he alienates these people making $250k/year who right now are on board with "taxing the rich" by whom they mean NOT them.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (sKqQm)

36 Willowed, but highly appropriate:

After watching Stephen Miller step up to the mic during last week's The Ministerial on the Resurgence of Political Terrorism, hosted at the U.S. State Department, I'd say the Administration is on track for crackdown.

"“Here in the United States, we have taken the necessary and essential action of formally recognizing left-wing violence as a form of political terrorism that is a direct threat to our national security and the survival of our republican form of government,” Miller said at the top of his remarks." (Mediaite)

The Guarantee Clause of the US Constitution is about to be enforced.

Posted by: mrp at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (rj6Yv)

37 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Useful idiots think it can be made to work. The power brokers controlling the useful idiots see themselves.as the vanguards of the new proletariat. The leaders of the party are jockeying now for a seat at the new Presidium.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (2WIwB)

38 That's my compromise position from a helicopter ride.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

How about half a helicopter ride?

Posted by: Kratwurst at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (36bTp)

39
Does communism work? Define work.
It concentrates the power and the profit into the hands of fewer people while extoling the virtue of stripping the wealthy of everything that they have.
That's how it works.

It's the politics of covetousness. You know, the original sin.
It's been working forever. Human nature, baby.

Posted by: Speller at July 20, 2026 02:39 PM (pSotA)

40 Wearing a Che Guevara shirt or a Mao jacket.
Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (hftzA)

I want to wear a Che Guevara t-shirt!

One with an image of him after he arrived in Bolivia in 1967.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 02:39 PM (4g5V+)

41 > I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.
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Soon we'll be fighting them for survival.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 02:39 PM (jehhT)

42 >Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence

Posted by: mr tmz at July 20, 2026 02:39 PM (rJ48h)

43 Has not anyone on the left read and understood my book?
Posted by: Mary Shelly at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (wVcYX)

The left doesn't get metaphor and abstract thinking.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:40 PM (N1tpc)

44 Even Arch-Race-Lefty Van Jones is alarmed about his totally-not-communist Democrat Party being taken over by communists.

Again, how can these non-communist moderate leftist organizations keep becoming communist revolutionary groups?! Make it make sense!

I think it's also true that Van Jones has somewhat moderated his views because he's now a parent, and that seems to make many people wake up a bit.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:40 PM (Riz8t)

45 @Rothmus Jul 17

On this day [July 17] in 1918 the Bolsheviks herded Tsar Nicholas II, Empress Alexandra, and their five children into a basement in Yekaterinburg and opened fire.

The bullets bounced because the girls had diamonds sewn into their corsets. So the reds finished the job with bayonets, stabbing, crushing skulls, and butchering the children while they were still alive.

Then they stripped the bodies, doused them in acid, burned what remained, and dumped the remains in a forest to hide the crime.

This was the deliberate, sadistic murder of an entire family, including a sick little boy, by communist animals who needed the blood of innocents to cement their power.

Never forget what the Bolsheviks were.

Never forgive it

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 02:40 PM (826kS)

46 Useful idiots think it can be made to work. The power brokers controlling the useful idiots see themselves.as the vanguards of the new proletariat. The leaders of the party are jockeying now for a seat at the new Presidium.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (2WIwB)

They are all central planners who all think THEY will be the central planner.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 02:40 PM (4g5V+)

47 Even Arch-Race-Lefty Van Jones is alarmed about his totally-not-communist Democrat Party being taken over by communists.
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"Why are they saying the quiet part out loud?!" Jones exclaimed.

The DNC has been nurturing this for quite a while.

Late 20th century Democrat politics resembled so much Owen's "socialism" than it did Marx's. But Marx is no doubt influenced by Owen, in that Marx seems to be trying to lay out the logistics to get to Owen's communes.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:40 PM (Fi81e)

48 Bad news: We're going to have to kill a lot of communists in the near future. (They're going to insist on it unfortuntately.)

Good news: We won't have to travel very far.

Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 02:40 PM (w1Bba)

49 Former DSA Member: We Started This Moderate, Wholesome Socialist Group But It Got Taken Over by Extremist Communists, Somehow

"Why do all these gay guys keep sucking my d!ck?"

- The Onion

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 02:41 PM (bFu5X)

50 It is amusing to watch how much of an idiot one has to be to believe leftwing economics.

I was reading one facebook thread where the lefties all agreed to one should have to work to provide for life's necessities.

Well, ok, if no one grows your avocados where the hell are you getting your avocado toast from?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:41 PM (sKqQm)

51 I talked to a guy who lives in a rural area about this the other day. When he stopped laughing he said, I can’t wait for them to come up here. We already put the pole up outside the town line and left a box there with a hammer and some railroad tie spikes.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:41 PM (jlI90)

52 Really? I'm so surprised. Leftwing movements are never taken over by some kind of, oh, let's say "Bolshevik Faction."

It kinda hits you in the head like an axe...

Posted by: Zombie Leon Trotsky at July 20, 2026 02:42 PM (l3cgK)

53 What's the saying? Any organization that isn't explicitly right-wing will eventually be taken over by the far left...something like that.

Well when you start on the far left don't be surprised when the real lunatics come in and wear your organization as a skin suit.

Posted by: ballistic at July 20, 2026 02:42 PM (oqH4h)

54 Former DSA Member: We Started This Moderate, Wholesome Socialist Group But It Got Taken Over by Extremist Communists, Somehow

"Why do all these gay guys keep sucking my d!ck?"

Beat me to it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:42 PM (Riz8t)

55 Look at it through the eyes of the DSA, and you have to admit "Menshevik" sounds a bit Jewy.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 20, 2026 02:42 PM (NYInA)

56 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

We should have had the whole Truth and Reconciliation thing in regards to communism after the Soviet Union fell but we had Bush 41 and Clinton so that didn't happen...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:42 PM (sKqQm)

57
Wearing a Che Guevara shirt or a Mao jacket.
Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (hftzA)

Made by asian slaves. That they bought.

Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 02:42 PM (w1Bba)

58 People who want to pull down American institutions and are very clear about it. People who have this thrill to violence.

Fine.
Bring it assholes. Try your marxist bullshit in my little.town.
Better bring some friends, you'll need them.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2026 02:42 PM (2WIwB)

59 how unfortunate that john mccain isn't around to reach across the aisle and work with these people to get things done

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (CWTWj)

60 It is amusing to watch how much of an idiot one has to be to believe leftwing economics.

Are you suggesting it might be a bit embarrassing to have AOC and Bernie held up as your economics experts? Perish the thought!

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

61 I love watching the left eat its own dick!

I've said many times that there's no difference between the new breed of DSA commie and the old breed of Bernie Sanders commie.

True, they use different rhetoric, but there's no significant issue that there's any daylight on. There's no legislation or policy where their votes would be any different.

But the fact that fools like Jake Altman seem desperate to distance themselves from the open cannibals very strongly suggests to me that the internal Democrap polling on whether open cannibalism is politically popular is atrocious.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

62 They are all central planners who all think THEY will be the central planner.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 02:40 PM (4g5V+)

Hee hee. Hee.
Won't they be surprised!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (2WIwB)

63 Their plan is pretty simple. They believe they can take over the government and wear it like a skin suit. Then everyone will just fall in line. You know, walk away from the constitution then have the military and government agencies trample shoot and kill anyone who doesn’t go along. It’s so retarded I just heard rain man laugh.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (jlI90)

64 48 Bad news: We're going to have to kill a lot of communists in the near future. (They're going to insist on it unfortuntately.)

Good news: We won't have to travel very far.
Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 02:40 PM (w1Bba)
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I'm having a hard time putting killing commies into the "bad news" bucket.

Posted by: ballistic at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (oqH4h)

65 "I never thought the leopard would eat my face."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (m4BoI)

66 Communists are communist!!??

Oh, say it isn't so!!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 20, 2026 02:44 PM (ourEi)

67 That doesn't mean that we won't be on opposite sides of the barricades...and I am a much better shot.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM

*fistbump*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 02:44 PM (bFu5X)

68 Communism, either Marx's theory or Owen's communes, is the utmost liberal dream.

Nobody has the authority to tell you what to do.

So, naturally, all human problems are solved.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:44 PM (Fi81e)

69 We should have had the whole Truth and Reconciliation thing in regards to communism after the Soviet Union fell but we had Bush 41 and Clinton so that didn't happen...

It would have made no difference. Every 1-2 generations, the lesson needs to be learned anew.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:44 PM (Riz8t)

70 lol, the entire Democrat Party believes that, dunce.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:44 PM (jlI90)

71 Paul is some kind of small bidness owner isn’t he? Lol.

Just you wait Paul you may be up against the wall last, but you will be up against the wall.

Posted by: Arsonists of America at July 20, 2026 02:44 PM (GEtfQ)

72 One point that has to be made here - this isn't a care where if the communists do get in power it is going to look like Red Dawn.

Your credit card won't work, your funds in your bank will be seized, and anyone that speaks up will first be shut off from social media and the later disappeared. And they'll tell your neighbors you were a Russian spy or a Neo-NAZI and were planning to engage in terrorism or some such...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:44 PM (sKqQm)

73 We started a heroin club, but only snorting -- no injection.

But first a few skin poppers and then full mainlining.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 20, 2026 02:45 PM (FOFVX)

74 60 how unfortunate that john mccain isn't around to reach across the aisle and work with these people to get things done
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (CWTWj)
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My gosh man have some respect. At least wait until his funeral is over!

Posted by: ballistic at July 20, 2026 02:45 PM (oqH4h)

75 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:30 PM
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Look at the hierarchy of the national teachers' unions and the faculty lounge of nearly every major university in the country. People who have a clear-eyed view of Marxism are hounded out of our educational systems K-12 and higher. "Fascists" is the kindest thing that they are called.

Posted by: mrp at July 20, 2026 02:45 PM (rj6Yv)

76 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 02:45 PM (teRLw)

77 "Democrats shocked that their brainwashing in the schools has produced exactly what they taught people to believe."
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Yes, weird how otherwise unemployable adults with no marketable job skills outside of government schools produces only monster babies capable of nothing but mindless destruction while chanting slogans.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 02:46 PM (3cUTc)

78 NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

https://tinyurl.com/7sujzcm5

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 02:46 PM (826kS)

79 But the fact that fools like Jake Altman seem desperate to distance themselves from the open cannibals very strongly suggests to me that the internal Democrap polling on whether open cannibalism is politically popular is atrocious.

The smarter Dems know that running commies for 25% of the political slots in the country won't get them 25% of the positions, it'll get them a few in NYC, LA, etc. Probably no more than 2% of the total. It will be an Extinction Level Event for the Dems.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:46 PM (Riz8t)

80 The DSA Commies have the bit on their mouths and they are running at a gallop. They are preparing for a violent revolution if necessary: the DSA's military wing, The Red Rabbits, are organized, armed, and ready. If matters break the wrong way things could get spicy.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 20, 2026 02:46 PM (Md3lB)

81 Truth and Reconciliation didn't exactly pave the way to a better South Africa.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 20, 2026 02:46 PM (rJ48h)

82 They are not operating in "good faith".
Right there is the epitome of leftist political brain damage . Power hungry ideologues never act in "good faith". They do anything they can to gain and keep power. Lie, cheat, steal, murder , torture. No knowledge of history.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 02:47 PM (sMkB+)

83 The "We should be more like Europe" people would finally have the prime minister of their dreams.

The DSA wants to abolish the Presidency, the SCOTUS an the Senate, and make the chief executive somebody elected by the remaining House.

That's a prime minister. Of course, they'll have to have the Vote of No Confidence to go along with that.

Ask England, once you have a prime minister leading a Parliament, you're golden from then on.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:47 PM (Fi81e)

84 the punchline: because comrade stalin's needs are greater

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 20, 2026 02:47 PM (CWTWj)

85

""Their organization has been captured..." Altman told Fox News."

Well no shit. How do you like that.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz PhD Esq at July 20, 2026 02:47 PM (et1vG)

86 The polling is terrible on this. Democrats are going down faster than a junior staffer on Ruben Gallego.

Generic ballot polls have Dems to a +3 and it’s only July.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:47 PM (jlI90)

87 It would be a de facto admission of abject cultural failure if we had to go to war to prevent socialism from taking over government after everything we did in WWII.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 02:47 PM (3Ope8)

88 I saw something so retarded on linked in today. Someone posted that as a European he’s shocked that the richest country in the world, US, doesn’t give everyone 6 -8 weeks vacation like Europoors do.

This is like the NYT article that was incredulous crime went down while prison incarcerations went up.

Posted by: Arsonists of America at July 20, 2026 02:48 PM (GEtfQ)

89 I think it is hilarious. These fuckers don't understand that we have guns.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 02:48 PM (qFwJc)

90 how unfortunate that john mccain isn't around to reach across the aisle and work with these people to get things done
Posted by: gnats local 678

Any truly neutral observer has to admit that McCain destroyed more US Navy hardware than almost any other communist.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 20, 2026 02:48 PM (ourEi)

91 Come and get my double digits, fag.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:48 PM (jlI90)

92 The polling is terrible on this. Democrats are going down faster than a junior staffer on Ruben Gallego.

I STILL haven't seen it confirmed that the staffers were female.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:48 PM (Riz8t)

93 > NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

I predict this fuckers wealth will quintuple.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 20, 2026 02:48 PM (rJ48h)

94 As others have noted, the only difference between these Dirty Stinking Assholes and the Democrat Party is that the DSA are willing to say out loud what they all believe.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 02:49 PM (3cUTc)

95 We shan't believe it. We shannot.

Posted by: Yellow Dog Democrats who are going to vote D NO MATTER WHAT at July 20, 2026 02:49 PM (0256r)

96 I saw something so retarded on linked in today. Someone posted that as a European he’s shocked that the richest country in the world, US, doesn’t give everyone 6 -8 weeks vacation like Europoors do.

Compare our standard of living, and GDP per capita to anywhere in Europe. And the divide is increasing rapidly.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:49 PM (Riz8t)

97 I saw more air conditioning in third world shitholes than I did in Europe.

Make of that what you may.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:49 PM (jlI90)

98
They Dems are a party run by AWFL's and septum ring blue hair fatties.

Are you surprised that commies come along and say "just the tip" and they buy it?

Posted by: Auspex at July 20, 2026 02:50 PM (Y8DZL)

99 Commies like to define working class as anyone who works to earn money. That cuts out the Capitalists who earn through their capitol/investments -- you know like retirees.

Also welfare moochers don't work to earn money, but instead profit from the labor of others -- but that's different, somehow.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 20, 2026 02:50 PM (wBaIH)

100 Nobody has the authority to tell you what to do.

So, naturally, all human problems are solved.

I've gotten into political discussions with a number of anarcho-socialists and it always goes something like this:

So there are no laws, police or government? Yes (heart symbol)!

So then what will people do for work? Oh the worker's committee will decide

What if I don't want to do what they decide? Well you'll be made to.

By who? You said their are no police? Right it will be a special group of people empowered by the worker's committee. They will take you somewhere until you agree with the people's reasonable rules.

But that's a government, empowering police, to put me in prison?!? No no you don't get it at all, its nothing like that!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:50 PM (sKqQm)

101 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.
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Our very distant descendants from the year 2400 will still be fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Because the reality is that communism does work, and work spectacularly. It's just that you have to understand what it's true purpose is. Hint: it ain't communism's stated purpose.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:50 PM (iFTx/)

102 It’s the Leopards Eating Peoples Faces party all the way down. And people keep being shocked that their faces are being eaten.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 02:50 PM (ZGrMX)

103 I saw something so retarded on linked in today.

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Isn't it, like, everyday ??

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 02:50 PM (GD0B3)

104 Interesting article on the DSA's pro-Zionist origins.

It's changed a lot over the years.

https://tinyurl.com/467b46fm

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 02:50 PM (uSpHL)

105
A dingo ate my party.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 20, 2026 02:50 PM (OkYzo)

106 The polling is terrible on this. Democrats are going down faster than a junior staffer on Ruben Gallego.

Generic ballot polls have Dems to a +3 and it’s only July.
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Not true!

If you see the shrieking on the X, the Dirty Stinking Assholes are super popular because they are winning special elections* all over the nation.

* in deep blue districts. Against other Dems.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 02:51 PM (3cUTc)

107 What if I don't want to do what they decide? Well you'll be made to.

Gee, why do communist utopias always end up with boots in people's faces forever?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:51 PM (Riz8t)

108 Between the Socialists, the Communists and the Islamists we've got some serious work to do if we're to survive as a Republic. Or survive as a people... which is probably where this is headed if we don't nip this shit now.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 02:51 PM (jehhT)

109
I'm having a hard time putting killing commies into the "bad news" bucket.
Posted by: ballistic at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (oqH4h)

Eh...it smells pretty awful. Like, hard to wash out of your nostrils awful. Sounds like fun, brochure is technically accurate, but I wouldn't recommend. It's more of a 'break glass' kind of thing...

Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 02:51 PM (w1Bba)

110 Former DSA Member: We Started This Moderate, Wholesome Socialist Group But It Got Taken Over by Extremist Communists, Somehow

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DSA gain of function research?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 02:52 PM (ndZc7)

111 88 Teachers get way more vacation time than Europoors.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 20, 2026 02:52 PM (wBaIH)

112 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.
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Soon we'll be fighting them for survival.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Hopefully sooner rather than later. I'm not getting any younger.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 02:52 PM (v3afF)

113 An alert tells me that Chief Lizzy is supporting the Muzzie in Michigan, while Schumer is backing Stevens.
If the Dems don't take the Senate or House , Chuck is a goner as leader

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 02:52 PM (sMkB+)

114 If the Dems don't take the Senate or House , Chuck is a goner as leader

He's a goner either way.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:53 PM (Riz8t)

115 "I've said many times that there's no difference between the new breed of DSA commie and the old breed of Bernie Sanders commie.

True, they use different rhetoric, but there's no significant issue that there's any daylight on. There's no legislation or policy where their votes would be any different."

One difference is I think Bernie is now OK with millionaires, unlike the DSA.

Posted by: Ripley at July 20, 2026 02:54 PM (GUOwU)

116 Altman urged Democrats to stand up against a "radicalized base," as far-left DSA candidates secure wins nationwide.

Your semi annual reminder that "radicalize" means "returning to the roots".

DSA was always communist, and now it's returning to those fundamentals

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 20, 2026 02:54 PM (vJrRc)

117 Parasitic progressivism.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 02:54 PM (abScH)

118 Good communists do exist...
...in a certain fashion.

Posted by: weew at July 20, 2026 02:54 PM (9TspW)

119 James Lindsay, who blocked me on X, is actually getting closer to my position that Marx is actually less significant than Rousseau and perhaps Welsh industrialist Robert Owen.

Marx's crowd were unrepentant Jacobins in hiding. And he was just solving the problem of how we solve "all society's problems" by Owen-like communes, only how we can get there in a way that works.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:54 PM (Fi81e)

120 Teachers get way more vacation time than Europoors.

I'd like to see teaching completely reworked. Instead of getting a 6 year teaching degree require 10+ years of work in the field.

And since teaching is more of a part time job anyway, tailor it to people at the end of their private sector career.

So then you'd have a 55 year old industrial chemist say teaching chemistry instead of a 28 year old whose only knowledge of chemistry is from watching Breaking Bad.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:55 PM (sKqQm)

121 Between the Socialists, the Communists and the Islamists we've got some serious work to do if we're to survive as a Republic. Or survive as a people... which is probably where this is headed if we don't nip this shit now.
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Yes.

And...IF we hold honest elections, "we" will hold the White House and both houses of Congress for the forseable future.

BUT...even if that occurs...I don't think there is the political will to RIP 80% of current governments spending out of all budgets since 80% of all government spending is likely direct fraud and cronyism.

Its crazy that "our" side knows this, but has zero interest in fixing it.

Posted by: Crusader at July 20, 2026 02:55 PM (TN0g+)

122 I can't imagine how stupid you have to be to believe Bernie and AOC have figured out how to save America.

And ancient communist who has never held a real job in the private sector and a bartender that seems to have the IQ of a kumquat.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 02:56 PM (viF8m)

123 NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

https://tinyurl.com/7sujzcm5
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 02:46 PM (826kS)
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Three observations:

1. Dude looks and sounds gayer than fuck

2. He is correct that nobody has a "constitutional right" to double-digit returns on investment. The constitutional doesn't guarantee you any returns on investment at all.

3. He's an idiot. He's upset that Landlords are supposedly making 12% return on their investments. Successful LL make way more than that, or they wouldn't bother. I'm making double that in my investment portfolio.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:56 PM (iFTx/)

124 Van Jones will discover no backsliding is allowed. Forward!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 02:56 PM (hI19e)

125 The difference between Bernie and the new commies is that the new commies are getting people elected. Bernie will wake up some day and find out he's been denounced, whether for being a millionaire, Jewish or just for the hell of it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 02:56 PM (sMkB+)

126 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:30 PM

It's a very effective grift, and there's no point in debating specific claims in the scam patter of a confidence scheme. Control the frame, or you lose before you start.

Posted by: SciVo at July 20, 2026 02:57 PM (Sy6m/)

127 88 I saw something so retarded on linked in today. Someone posted that as a European he’s shocked that the richest country in the world, US, doesn’t give everyone 6 -8 weeks vacation like Europoors do
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But he liked those huge portions and free refills.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 02:57 PM (826kS)

128 t’s the Leopards Eating Peoples Faces party all the way down. And people keep being shocked that their faces are being eaten.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 02:50 PM (ZGrMX)
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Ironically, the "Leopards Eating Peoples Faces" expression was originally coined by a commie commenting on a (fake) story that a Trump supporter was really upset with Trump.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:58 PM (iFTx/)

129 I can't imagine how stupid you have to be to believe Bernie and AOC have figured out how to save America.

And ancient communist who has never held a real job in the private sector and a bartender that seems to have the IQ of a kumquat.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 02:56 PM (viF8m)

I voted for George W. Bush, John "Maverick" McCain, and Mittens Romney.

Retardation has no party allegiance.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 02:58 PM (uSpHL)

130 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

it's hard to fight the stupid.

they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 20, 2026 02:59 PM (j+aD2)

131 Hopefully sooner rather than later. I'm not getting any younger.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 02:52 PM (v3afF)

Just means we're rear guard. I ain't running any more. Thankfully, my aim isn't suffering. Just went 76/100 on clays and was tapping 600 yds on the range last weekend. With a little prep time, even drones won't matter.

Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 02:59 PM (w1Bba)

132 We already put the pole up outside the town line and left a box there with a hammer and some railroad tie spikes.
Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:41 PM (jlI90)

Will the warning just be in English or are they considering someone to help translate it into Aramaic and Greek?

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 02:59 PM (gKWVE)

133 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Most people don't want to work, but they want to have food, housing, entertainment, etc.

Communism/socialism claims to answer that - you'll be given all this stuff whether you work or not. So the appeal is obvious TBH.

Now, you'd expect the first question people would ask is "well wait how am I getting stuff if no one is working?" but...people don't ask those sorts of questions...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:59 PM (sKqQm)

134 maybe Pluribus is happening I dunno

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 20, 2026 03:00 PM (j+aD2)

135 shocked that the richest country in the world, US, doesn’t give everyone 6 -8 weeks vacation
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I think that the euros mostly don't realize how hard Americans work. That's how we have accomplished as much as we have.

Now we throw it all away on another world war. Very sad.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 20, 2026 03:00 PM (JWDez)

136 I think Paul said he was retarded. Or retired. One of those.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 03:00 PM (gKWVE)

137 Of course, I do wonder how many Democrats dislike being face-to-face with more than just-the-tip Marxism.

It wouldn't surprise me if Jones actually likes being protected by cops and prisons.

The abolishment of prisons is not classic Marxism anyway, and it's kind of the relatively new Critical Theory which tries to make a client race of black Americans, as Marcuse said "before they gain too much from the capitalistic system".

But ultimately all these grievances lead to a "solution" which resembles Marx's version of socialism.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:01 PM (Fi81e)

138 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.
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Our youth have been dis educated.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 03:01 PM (RIvkX)

139 The core have always been commies. TDS just got them to drop the mask.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 03:01 PM (XvL8K)

140 I voted for George W. Bush, John "Maverick" McCain, and Mittens Romney.

Retardation has no party allegiance.
Posted by: Based Conservative
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Pfft. I voted for Thom Tillis.

Voting for the least of the evils sometimes seems the only strategy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 03:02 PM (XeU6L)

141 NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

Risk / reward is bad? Because that's what's in play here. You invest in something because you believe it will return. Likely, if all done correctly, MORE than you invested. That's the entire point.

GFY, asshole. You just want to TAKE my money with NO chance of me getting a return.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:02 PM (2YhKe)

142 I voted for George W. Bush, John "Maverick" McCain, and Mittens Romney.

Retardation has no party allegiance.

Posted by: Based Conservative
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Your alternatives were Albert Gore and Barry Dong Obama.
Tell me more.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 03:03 PM (826kS)

143 They are all central planners who all think THEY will be the central planner.
Posted by: Cow Demon

Hee hee. Hee.
Won't they be surprised!
Posted by: Diogenes

Wait 'til they get a load of me.

Posted by: Stan at July 20, 2026 03:03 PM (Ak6ZC)

144 LOL

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 03:03 PM (VyBeY)

145 I find it hilarious that all of these lefties claim that they are worried about the working class and the middle class.

Under marxist theory, the middle class is bourgeoisie and must be killed, and the poor are to be enslaved, always.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 20, 2026 03:03 PM (0U5gm)

146 Now, you'd expect the first question people would ask is "well wait how am I getting stuff if no one is working?" but...people don't ask those sorts of questions...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:59 PM (sKqQm)
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In fact, they struggle more realistic socialists who say things like "Of course, under socialism, we'll still have to work."

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:03 PM (Fi81e)

147 The abolishment of prisons is not classic Marxism anyway, and it's kind of the relatively new Critical Theory which tries to make a client race of black Americans, as Marcuse said "before they gain too much from the capitalistic system".

But ultimately all these grievances lead to a "solution" which resembles Marx's version of socialism.
Posted by: Axeman

Well, they need foot soldiers for terror campaigns.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 20, 2026 03:03 PM (AEkWp)

148 But ultimately all these grievances lead to a "solution" which resembles Marx's version of socialism.
Posted by: Axeman
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Hitler's National Socialism.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 03:04 PM (XeU6L)

149 NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…
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Arguing with these people is fruitless. Trump took all the mainstream territory on every issue, so now they want to "change the conversation".

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:04 PM (oZ51P)

150 shocked that the richest country in the world, US, doesn’t give everyone 6 -8 weeks vacation

This fits into a point I think the right has not pushed hard enough on.

Remember in the 50s futurists thought we'd be working 20 hours a week and retiring at 40? Why didn't that happen?

Well a large part of it is the government has increased costs through market manipulation, taxes, and inflation. And just look at the time period of the Biden junta - costs doubled.

That means you need more hours and more years of work...all so Somali Learing centers and Guatemalan illegal's Ho Hos can be paid for...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:04 PM (sKqQm)

151
Now we throw it all away on another world war. Very sad.

Posted by: Don in SoCo
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Yes, let's role over an let Iran give us belly rubs.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 03:04 PM (826kS)

152 Things have gotten topsy-turvy when Van Jones sounds like the voice of reason!

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 03:06 PM (RCjYY)

153 This is all just a distraction from the Epstein files.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 20, 2026 03:06 PM (X/MmC)

154 When I met our global CIO and we spent some one on one time talking about things, he told me he's paying 58% on his earnings. Everyone pays 150% tax on vehicle purchases. Importing one is even more expensive. But, health care is "free," education is "free" and you even get paid when taking extra school for masters and Ph-D's.

The country, Denmark, is silly expensive on top of that.

This is their example. They want that for the US.

They will stop at nothing to get there. Just know that. YOU don't work to better yourself. You work to better THEM. First and foremost.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:06 PM (2YhKe)

155 "Working class? Don't make me laugh.

The Left represents, very specifically, the non-working class. Interestingly, i'ds a combination of non-workers at either extrem end of the spectrum: Unemployed welfare bums, addicts and criminalsm at one end, and wealthy layabout champagne socialists at the other end. No one in the middle. No people with actual jobs, who work for a living.

If you are employed, and thus are "working class," you are (in the 21st century) a pro-America, pro-Trump "cnservative," and are the enemy of the Left.

Posted by: zombie at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (Av6i5)

156 If only Stalin were aware of what they are doing.

Posted by: Voices from 1938 at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (wGerL)

157 The difference between the US and Europe in on commercial.

https://tinyurl.com/3kjsb8ys

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (viF8m)

158 I call shenanigans.

Posted by: Rotkappchen at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (j3Fsw)

159 Things have gotten topsy-turvy when Van Jones sounds like the voice of reason!
Posted by: mnw

He knows. It's an act.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (AEkWp)

160 88 I saw something so retarded on linked in today. Someone posted that as a European he’s shocked that the richest country in the world, US, doesn’t give everyone 6 -8 weeks vacation like Europoors do.

I guess he can’t see the connection.

Many people can’t be bothered to take two weeks off here. I knew many people in the military - 30 days of leave a year, if you get over 60, it starts entering “use of lose” territory” - who kept winding up in “use of lose” situations and were practically forced to take leave.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (4g5V+)

161 Yes, let's role over an let Iran give us belly rubs.

Posted by: Braenyard
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at July 20, 2026 03:08 PM (XeU6L)

162 Obama had a Mao Christmas ornament hanging on the White House tree right?

Or did I dream that?

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 03:08 PM (6PgKW)

163 The Democrat party has been the breeding ground for socialists and Marxist. Not all of them become full blown Marxists, or full-blown socialists but there is enough of it to go around to get thoroughly mixed into the dough.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:08 PM (Fi81e)

164 He knows. It's an act.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (AEkWp)

What am I going to do with all these stars and garters.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:08 PM (oZ51P)

165 The difference between the US and Europe in on commercial.

https://tinyurl.com/3kjsb8ys
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (viF8m)

I hate GM, but that's a damn good commercial. Even from a company that wouldn't exist without the government bailing them out.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:09 PM (2YhKe)

166 Your alternatives were Albert Gore and Barry Dong Obama.
Tell me more.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 03:03 PM (826kS)

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I think you are trying to make me feel better, but you just made me more depressed.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 03:09 PM (uSpHL)

167 polynikes, yes, courtesy of Anita Dunn.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 03:10 PM (abScH)

168 Wait until people find out that more than half of the elected Republican party are communists, and the rest merely self-dealers. That's gonna blow some minds.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:10 PM (oZ51P)

169 I've never taken more than a week vacation at a time unless I timed it with the additional Holiday days off you get.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 03:10 PM (6PgKW)

170 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:30 PM

I can. Why?

1) Communists are terribly stupid.
2) Communists run our schools.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 20, 2026 03:10 PM (wtvvX)

171 Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (viF8m)

That was a truly great commercial!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 03:10 PM (3Ope8)

172 Remember when Arnie adopted the tagline when he was running for governor about how he signs the front of checks while his opponents have only ever signed the back?

Nowadays, the kids don't even know what a check is.
Let alone why real-world experience matters.

As I've said, if your professor knew how the economy actually worked--any economy--you couldn't afford his classes.
And the reason why you don't understand why is why you support socialism.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 03:11 PM (3cUTc)

173
Or did I dream that?
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 03:08 PM (6PgKW)

No. That was real.

Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 03:11 PM (w1Bba)

174 I saw something so retarded on linked in today. Someone posted that as a European he’s shocked that the richest country in the world, US, doesn’t give everyone 6 -8 weeks vacation like Europoors do.

Compare our standard of living, and GDP per capita to anywhere in Europe. And the divide is increasing rapidly.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 02:49 PM (Riz8t)
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Yea, he's also full of shit on how much vacation the Eurofags get. They use some very misleading and outright scam mathematics to get to their claim that they get 6 weeks. It's bullshit.

When they do have actual vacation days, most of them just sit around with their thumbs up their asses, or take very cheap road-trip like vacations because they have limited funds.

By contrast, we live in a country that's so wildly rich and successful that even our poor can afford "real" vacations.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

175 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

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It's like longbows vs. crossbows!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:11 PM (UTxF6)

176 Wok’d Liberals - Basted Conservatives. NOW it’s a Food Thread.

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:11 PM (Gqar8)

177 156 Love this. Reminds me of Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee when every tribe that was getting shitkicked would say "If only the Great White Father knew... "

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 20, 2026 03:11 PM (wBaIH)

178 polynikes, yes, courtesy of Anita Dunn.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 03:10 PM (abScH)

As an open admirer, she was a good scapegoat for it too.

Malia
Anm
Obama

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:12 PM (oZ51P)

179 FFS.
ANN

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:12 PM (oZ51P)

180 174
Yea, he's also full of shit on how much vacation the Eurofags get. They use some very misleading and outright scam mathematics to get to their claim that they get 6 weeks. It's bullshit.

When they do have actual vacation days, most of them just sit around with their thumbs up their asses, or take very cheap road-trip like vacations because they have limited funds.

By contrast, we live in a country that's so wildly rich and successful that even our poor can afford "real" vacations.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

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They just have entire industries that take off a month.

The funniest laugh in Muppets Most Wanted was the French detective, on the verge of breaking the case alongside Sam the Eagle near the end of the film, quick-changing into vacation clothes and leaving the movie completely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:12 PM (UTxF6)

181 >>That was a truly great commercial!

Always cracks me up because there is a big element of truth to it. I've worked with enough Euros over the years to know they have a different take on work than Americans.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 03:12 PM (viF8m)

182 Things have gotten topsy-turvy when Van Jones sounds like the voice of reason!

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 03:06 PM (RCjYY)
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I think Jones is intelligent.

They caught him candid on the Russian "scandal" and he flatly admitted there was nothing there. Didn't stop his network from pushing "Russian conspiracy", and he wasn't going to publicly break with this network, either.

I don't trust him. But I think he processes better than many other Dems.

I also consider Warren too smart for some of the rhetoric she has tried to get away with after a certain point. But she's elected the ideologue path.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:12 PM (Fi81e)

183 Bernie and AOC were socialists until they figured out that being a Corruptocrat is a nice lifestyle.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 03:12 PM (n5tGW)

184 It works for what it does- puts theater kids in luxury, ruling over all the people who bullied them in high school. Taking their lives when they feel like it and making them live in abject misery and fear.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 03:13 PM (zZu0s)

185 "I think if you have to work to pay your bills, I think that that is one definition of being a part of the working class," he vaguely responded.

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So, if you have to work to pay your bill for your Lamborghini -- there are big bills associated with Lambos, you know -- you're working class? Odd.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

186 But the fact that fools like Jake Altman seem desperate to distance themselves from the open cannibals very strongly suggests to me that the internal Democrap polling on whether open cannibalism is politically popular is atrocious.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (iFTx/)
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There is no way to quickly put this back in the bottle so to speak. As long as Iran doesn't go completely sideways, the democrats are going to lose both Senate AND House seats in the midterms.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:13 PM (GZYu7)

187 182 I think Jones is intelligent.

They caught him candid on the Russian "scandal" and he flatly admitted there was nothing there. Didn't stop his network from pushing "Russian conspiracy", and he wasn't going to publicly break with this network, either.

I don't trust him. But I think he processes better than many other Dems.

I also consider Warren too smart for some of the rhetoric she has tried to get away with after a certain point. But she's elected the ideologue path.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:12 PM (Fi81e)

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Van Jones is smart and ideologically driven towards his vision of racialist socialism while able to step back and look at the politics of situations from other points of view.

He's a shit. He's smart, but he's still a shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:13 PM (UTxF6)

188 Ace:

"I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works."

We're not. There's no argument remaining.

The problem is, The Left and normal people live in completely separate reality-bubbles. In Sane World, communism is utterly debunked and despised as a ridiculous 19th-century revenge fantasy that is nt and never has been an actually valid economic system-- it's just gbbledygook to justiify murdering people more successful than you and stealing their stuff. But is Crazy World, it's the guiding principle of their entire worldview, and no amount of facts or history will ever negate that. Because once they admit that communism is evil and childish, there's nothing left of their entire ideology. "Moderate leftism" is just a dishonest mask for full-on communism. Admitting that that communism is invalid is like committing suicide t them.

Posted by: zombie at July 20, 2026 03:14 PM (Av6i5)

189 Your credit card won't work, your funds in your bank will be seized, and anyone that speaks up will first be shut off from social media and the later disappeared. And they'll tell your neighbors you were a Russian spy or a Neo-NAZI and were planning to engage in terrorism or some such...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:44 PM (sKqQm)

This is what those data centers will ultimately be used for.

Posted by: Essentials of life turned off with a mouse click at July 20, 2026 03:14 PM (TbWk/)

190 Bernie and AOC were socialists until they figured out that being a Corruptocrat is a nice lifestyle.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 03:12 PM (n5tGW)

The entire point of being a socialist is becoming a corruptocrat

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:14 PM (oZ51P)

191 Mayor Mamdani struggles to define who the 'working class' is in a word salad interview

He should seek counsel from David French, who knows all about rough, virile workmen, on account of them balling his lady in front of him.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 03:14 PM (K3f7J)

192 Yay! Content!
Which I'm going to fully read!

I just turned on my friend's water for their garden. I'm not leaving until after I turn it off so I don't forget.

I'm easily distr

Hey, squirrel. Black ones. That's normal here.

Posted by: Stateless at July 20, 2026 03:14 PM (Fmkks)

193 >>When they do have actual vacation days, most of them just sit around with their thumbs up their asses, or take very cheap road-trip like vacations because they have limited funds.

Sure were a lot of them that figured out how to spend weeks in the US traveling around to watch kickball.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 03:14 PM (viF8m)

194 186 There is no way to quickly put this back in the bottle so to speak. As long as Iran doesn't go completely sideways, the democrats are going to lose both Senate AND House seats in the midterms.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:13 PM (GZYu7)

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We're on day 10 of renewed conflict and oil jumped ALLLL the way up to $81 per barrel.

I remember promises of $200 per barrel.

Iran is page 3 news at this point. At best.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:15 PM (UTxF6)

195 I can put an end to this is a few minutes.

"He DSA, nitwit. In a commune, everyone gets to use your laptop without permission. They'll probably start a new character on your favorite video game and delete yours."

(sit back and watch)

Posted by: Orson at July 20, 2026 03:15 PM (dIske)

196 The embrace of Islam is disconcerting. It's as false as any other religion, but the DSA seems enthralled by it just because it's anti-western. I think the Muslim members just want to use the DSA to seize control of the US government just to cut off Israel to eventually destroy it.

Posted by: Sid at July 20, 2026 03:15 PM (TeIRJ)

197 175 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

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It's like longbows vs. crossbows!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:11 PM (UTxF6)

More like which is God's Caliber, .45 or 9mm...

ie American greatness, or Euro trash.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20, 2026 03:15 PM (mP0Kj)

198 Generic ballot polls have Dems to a +3 and it’s only July.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:47 PM (jlI90)
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I saw a +2 last week. And its July. We might have a R+4 before we are over.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (GZYu7)

199 We're on day 10 of renewed conflict and oil jumped ALLLL the way up to $81 per barrel.

I remember promises of $200 per barrel.

Iran is page 3 news at this point. At best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:15 PM (UTxF6)

The new Oil Tanker routes are already taking effect.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (mP0Kj)

200
I think the Commies misunderstand the Trump phenomenon.

They think that Because Trump said exactly what he wanted to do people followed him.

So, in their minds if they say exactly what they want to do (the quiet part) loud and proud that people will follow them and elect them into power.

The difference is that Trump was saying things that were 80-20 issues. ie. things that most people wanted.

The commies are shouting their 10-90 issues which most people beyond certain blue shithole enclaves want.

I guess it may work for them if the media can run enough cover, but even Oblabla(mostly) knew when to shut-up.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (iJfKG)

201 Ahem Fauxcahantas is not smart, she just plays the dumbass DEI scam like a fifthy Somali.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (wBaIH)

202 Yea, he's also full of shit on how much vacation the Eurofags get. They use some very misleading and outright scam mathematics to get to their claim that they get 6 weeks. It's bullshit.
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One of the funnier ones I saw, of a likely Retardo of Redditt, was extolling how many vacation days a year workers in China get.

Because ... China counts the 1 to two days they get off for the weekend as vacation days.
LOL

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (3cUTc)

203 Why haven't other socialists in history thought of leveraging hatred of Jews to gain popularity? Mamdani is a genius!

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (oZ51P)

204 198 Generic ballot polls have Dems to a +3 and it’s only July.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 02:47 PM (jlI90)
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I saw a +2 last week. And its July. We might have a R+4 before we are over.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (GZYu7)

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Impossibru.

Goode and Pretti meant that the GOP lost the midterms, deportations were over, and no one was going to vote for the pro-murder party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (UTxF6)

205 D+3 historically gives you a tie.

Of course that's from before USAID and similar leftwing election piggy banks were shut off

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (sKqQm)

206 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

Because we have allowed the fight to continue.

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (TezPK)

207
https://tinyurl.com/3kjsb8ys

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (viF8m)
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Mixed emotions.

Neal McDonough!! :-)

...

Neal McDonough pushing EVs... :-(

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (Fi81e)

208 When they do have actual vacation days, most of them just sit around with their thumbs up their asses, or take very cheap road-trip like vacations because they have limited funds.

Sure were a lot of them that figured out how to spend weeks in the US traveling around to watch kickball.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 03:14 PM (viF8m)
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The WC is once every 4 years, and for some of them, this is the only real vacation they'll take in those 4 years.

Plus, I'll bet a lot of $$ that many if not most of the foreigners who were here for weeks -- many were not here that long -- are quite affluent. I don't think we got the slum-dwellers here.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (iFTx/)

209 Iran is page 3 news at this point. At best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

There's a page 3? I just skip from the front page to Page Six.

Posted by: zombie at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (Av6i5)

210 Goode and Pretti meant that the GOP lost the midterms, deportations were over, and no one was going to vote for the pro-murder party.

Its funny in lefty forums they've moved on to the guy in Maine - I guess the guy in Houston didn't make for a good martyr. But even lefties don't remember Maine guy's name...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (sKqQm)

211 172 Remember when Arnie adopted the tagline when he was running for governor about how he signs the front of checks while his opponents have only ever signed the back?

Get to da bank! Argalargalargal!!

Posted by: Moar Argalargalargal!!! at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (K3f7J)

212 If I'm being objective, there are benefits to communism.

For instance, anyone who experienced BLM riots would certainly have to admit they wouldn't have minded seeing tanks running over the "protesters".

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (uSpHL)

213 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.
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Consider it an empirical lesson on how stupidity works.

Especially systemic stupidity.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (Fi81e)

214 199 The new Oil Tanker routes are already taking effect.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (mP0Kj)

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The important thing is the jump start towards new oil pipelines, including the new Iraq MOU with America about tens of billions of investment for new energy infrastructure in Iraq, including pipelines.

By the way, Iran did try to hit the Saudi pipeline that went from 500,000 barrels to 7 million a few months ago, right after the ceasefire.

They tried to hit it five times. They hit it once. The pipeline was down for less than 24 hours.

Iran hasn't hit any pipeline in the last 10 days.

Pipelines, especially buried pipelines, are hard to hit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (UTxF6)

215 The reason that Europe can afford 6-8 weeks of vacation is because US troops and Pax Anericana have been keeping the peace since 1945. They ain't fighting each other

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 03:19 PM (sMkB+)

216 Ahem Fauxcahantas is not smart, she just plays the dumbass DEI scam like a fifthy Somali.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (wBaIH)

She doesn't care because no one else cares. They'll re-elect her overwhelmingly, again.

She was caught culturally appropriating and stealing from the Native American. She's made her career off their back, yet nothing happened to her. Trump can call her Pocahontas all he wants. They don't care. She doesn't care. She'll still be rich, in office and stupidly corrupt. She's another one that will likely die in office. From old age.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:19 PM (2YhKe)

217 194

We're on day 10 of renewed conflict and oil jumped ALLLL the way up to $81 per barrel.

I remember promises of $200 per barrel.

Iran is page 3 news at this point. At best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:15 PM (UTxF6)

I would say tired, or perhaps flogged like a dead equine, but I get bored easily. Also, we churn topics here until they congeal.

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:19 PM (Gqar8)

218 Of course that's from before USAID and similar leftwing election piggy banks were shut off
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (sKqQm)

And redistricting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 20, 2026 03:19 PM (zZu0s)

219 205 D+3 historically gives you a tie.

Of course that's from before USAID and similar leftwing election piggy banks were shut off

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (sKqQm)

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Gerrymandering since 2020 probably means that D+5 is a tie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:19 PM (UTxF6)

220 209 Iran is page 3 news at this point. At best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

There's a page 3? I just skip from the front page to Page Six.

Posted by: zombie at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (Av6i5)

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Page 3 is where the European soccer scores go.

Someone technically cares, but no one actually cares.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:20 PM (UTxF6)

221 It did occur to me that if you are a big soccer fan you only have to save up for a big game once every 4 years.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 03:20 PM (n5tGW)

222 The commies are shouting their 10-90 issues which most people beyond certain blue shithole enclaves want.

I guess it may work for them if the media can run enough cover, but even Oblabla(mostly) knew when to shut-up.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (iJfKG)

What happens when Repukes go back to being the Party of Chop Chop Good Show Must Not Fight Too Hard as It Wouldn't Be Sporting And by the Way Rape is God's Plan Harrumph Harrumph.

People are probably better off not knowing. What the public wants is a strong leader and that's pretty much it. If people knew a damn thing about politics, the House and Senate wouldn't look the way they do

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:20 PM (oZ51P)

223 anyone who experienced BLM riots would certainly have to admit they wouldn't have minded seeing tanks running over the "protesters".

Bigly

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 20, 2026 03:20 PM (crzDU)

224 >>The WC is once every 4 years, and for some of them, this is the only real vacation they'll take in those 4 years.

I understand that. But most companies don't let you bank years of vacation so you can use it once every 4 years to watch soccer games across the ocean.

I've worked with Euros for years and yes a good many of them do indeed to multi-week long vacations every year. They brag about it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 03:20 PM (viF8m)

225 210 Goode and Pretti meant that the GOP lost the midterms, deportations were over, and no one was going to vote for the pro-murder party.

Its funny in lefty forums they've moved on to the guy in Maine - I guess the guy in Houston didn't make for a good martyr. But even lefties don't remember Maine guy's name...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (sKqQm)

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Americans have been inured to the reality of stupid leftists getting themselves killed.

On a certain level, I hope leftists never figure this out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:21 PM (UTxF6)

226 For instance, anyone who experienced BLM riots would certainly have to admit they wouldn't have minded seeing tanks running over the "protesters".

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (uSpHL)
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You're using Lenin and Mao's aspirational "communism", which contained no communes and a LOT of government, which the theory suggests predates communism.

Their "communism" is no different from the Dictatorship (In the Name) of the Proletariat in Marx.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:21 PM (Fi81e)

227 Gerry Mander has caused a lot of problems.

And he sucked as The Beaver too.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 03:21 PM (K3f7J)

228
Its funny in lefty forums they've moved on to the guy in Maine - I guess the guy in Houston didn't make for a good martyr. But even lefties don't remember Maine guy's name...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (sKqQm)
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Hitner, IIRC.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:22 PM (Fi81e)

229 NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

I predict this fuckers wealth will quintuple.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 20, 2026 02:48 PM (rJ48h)
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Interesting thing. Is this the first time in our government's recent history where we have a Treasury Secretary who is willing to use the financial weapons at his disposal? I think if Bessent wants to know where your money is he is going to find it.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:22 PM (GZYu7)

230 And he sucked as The Beaver too./i]

Ward, don't you think you were a little too hard on the beaver last night?

Posted by: June Cleaver at July 20, 2026 03:22 PM (sKqQm)

231 They've built the Frankenstein's monster and are shocked at what it became once they hooked it up to the electric lightening bolt and it came to life.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 03:22 PM (qBdHI)

232 Your credit card won't work, your funds in your bank will be seized, and anyone that speaks up will first be shut off from social media and the later disappeared. And they'll tell your neighbors you were a Russian spy or a Neo-NAZI and were planning to engage in terrorism or some such...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:44 PM (sKqQm)

This is what those data centers will ultimately be used for.
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"and that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name."
- Revelation 13:17

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 03:23 PM (x7Vzy)

233 Where did you go on holiday is way more asked in Europe than what do you do for a living.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 03:23 PM (n5tGW)

234 229 Interesting thing. Is this the first time in our government's recent history where we have a Treasury Secretary who is willing to use the financial weapons at his disposal? I think if Bessent wants to know where your money is he is going to find it.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:22 PM (GZYu7)

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Treasury secretaries haven't had direct access to Treasury transactions since WWII.

I believe Bessent does have access now, the first Treasury secretary to have it in 80 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:23 PM (UTxF6)

235 "I think if you have to work to pay your bills, I think that that is one definition of being a part of the working class," he vaguely responded.
......

Genius answer, Smiley.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2026 03:23 PM (UjdFS)

236 231 They've built the Frankenstein's monster and are shocked at what it became once they hooked it up to the electric lightening bolt and it came to life.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 03:22 PM (qBdHI)

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Luckily, torches are cheap.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:23 PM (UTxF6)

237 Its funny in lefty forums they've moved on to the guy in Maine - I guess the guy in Houston didn't make for a good martyr. But even lefties don't remember Maine guy's name...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 03:18 PM (sKqQm)

They care more about leftists experiences warranted FAFO, but are SILENT when a leftist psycho tranny shoots up a school and murders innocent children.

But they're QUICK to jump on the "thousands of murdered kids in Gaza........"

FFS....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:24 PM (2YhKe)

238 But the fact that fools like Jake Altman seem desperate to distance themselves from the open cannibals very strongly suggests to me that the internal Democrap polling on whether open cannibalism is politically popular is atrocious.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:43 PM (iFTx/)
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There is no way to quickly put this back in the bottle so to speak. As long as Iran doesn't go completely sideways, the democrats are going to lose both Senate AND House seats in the midterms.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:13 PM (GZYu7)_______

As the saying goes, "from your lips to god's ears ...."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:24 PM (iFTx/)

239
Many people can’t be bothered to take two weeks off here. I knew many people in the military - 30 days of leave a year, if you get over 60, it starts entering “use of lose” territory” - who kept winding up in “use of lose” situations and were practically forced to take leave.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (4g5V+)

A lot of times, single soldiers who lived in the barracks would get these forced leave situations and they would be stuck in their rooms for a couple of weeks or the chain of command would practically kick them out of the barracks saying "go visit Mom" when these troops had no family to visit. Not to mention no cash to get a plane ticket or hotel room.

Lots of extended camping trips was the result. I know that I did one of those forced leaves staying in the woods for nearly 2 weeks, camping out of my truck at one of the lakes on post.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2026 03:24 PM (y9nCu)

240 Iran is page 3 news at this point. At best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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True, but we all ought to remember that every day there are men in harm's way every minute, and be grateful to them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 03:24 PM (XeU6L)

241 Friend of mine used to work on Cape Cod. Some of the locals told him the story of how Provincetown used to be this sort of quiet rundown old fishing village, until the gays from Boston, etc. discovered it and started moving there. Pretty soon their population exceeded the old-timer locals population, and they started to gain elected office. Pretty soon, they were the local government, and the old-time residents were crying in their clam chowder. Not saying it's the same situation, but it's kinda the same.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 20, 2026 03:24 PM (QaH55)

242 I can't believe we're still fighting the leftists on whether or not communism works.
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Consider it an empirical lesson on how stupidity works.

Especially systemic stupidity.

Stupidity is an infinitely renewable resource.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 03:25 PM (Riz8t)

243 Goode and Pretti meant that the GOP lost the midterms, deportations were over, and no one was going to vote for the pro-murder party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (UTxF6)
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Often enough, if you give the Dems time they will remind voters why they didn't like them so much.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:25 PM (Fi81e)

244 They started to use the Treasury as a weapon against alQuida, 20 years ago. Bessent is using the same "roadmap" and greatly enhancing it. This is not new.

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 03:25 PM (GD0B3)

245 240 Iran is page 3 news at this point. At best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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True, but we all ought to remember that every day there are men in harm's way every minute, and be grateful to them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 03:24 PM (XeU6L)

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I am.

Those flyboys are putting their lives on the line to ensure American dominance of maritime traffic and killing bad people at the same time.

Patriots.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:25 PM (UTxF6)

246 I've found that never listening to leftists, never believing a word they say if you do accidentally hear them, and not giving a shit what happens to them, is a pretty bitchin way to go through life.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:25 PM (oZ51P)

247 > This is what those data centers will ultimately be used for.
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They're for all the surveillance camera data; video, still photos, AI generated data about every person, car, truck and so on that they capture.

It's not 'just' license plates. It's you, your habits, where you go, the route you take, what you buy and where, etc.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 03:25 PM (jehhT)

248 Their "communism" is no different from the Dictatorship (In the Name) of the Proletariat in Marx.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:21 PM (Fi81e)

.....

I wouldn't mind a little dictatorship with the right dictator.

Like I wouldn't mind a one child policy for people living on government assistance.

Or I wouldn't mind seeing them use water cannons and Belgian Malinois on ICE protestors.

I wouldn't mind if the secret police came in the middle of the night, drug AntiFa organizers out of their homes and shot them dead in their front yards.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 03:26 PM (uSpHL)

249 201 Ahem Fauxcahantas is not smart, she just plays the dumbass DEI scam like a fifthy Somali.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 20, 2026 03:16 PM (wBaIH)
________________________

The truth about Warren is that she is about as radical as they come. You may recall that she was making the most noise when Hegseth started giving the guys who preferred dresses in the military a kick out the door. Warren was instramental in getting those policies in place to allow them to join the military in the first place. Behind the scenes she pushed her DEI mentality on the US military to simply compromise their effectiveness.

Her aids are people like Calla Walsh, who traveled to Iran and joined anti-US chants while honoring Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. She is not your typical leftist. She is the tip of the spear in congress for radical leftist Communism. Or more accurately, revolution.

Posted by: Orson at July 20, 2026 03:26 PM (dIske)

250 I want to know who is behind this......

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
·
1h
WTF. Mexican national illegal alien Brandon Ortiz-Vite, who got decades in prison for kiIIing Ruby Garcia in Michigan, SUES Trump for “humiliating” him by highlighting his crime during the campaign

Ortiz is seeking a public apology, citizenship, and $75 million in damages

Posted by: beckster at July 20, 2026 03:26 PM (kX27y)

251 243 Often enough, if you give the Dems time they will remind voters why they didn't like them so much.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:25 PM (Fi81e)

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"2012 proves that Democrats can be racialist antagonists to America and win national elections!"
-the left

*stays silent*
-cheat in Broward County, Nevada, Michigan, and Pennsylvania

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:26 PM (UTxF6)

252 Queer Starmer is out! The UK is saved! Wait... here comes Andy Burneverything. Nevermind.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 03:26 PM (n5tGW)

253 So, if you have to work to pay your bill for your Lamborghini -- there are big bills associated with Lambos, you know -- you're working class? Odd.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

Another reason why it’s a stupid phrase, apart from the Marxism - just about everyone works. So this “working class” is, what, 95% of the adult population?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (4g5V+)

254
I love the college grads who appropriated "working class". There are millions upon millions of people who, for a lack of intelligence or education, work long, hard and honorably. For many, especially men, this can mean a life of chronic physical pain. Shift work also takes its toll.

Then there are the slackers who partied their way through college and came out with a useless degree, student debt, and poor work habits. They whine about working a five-day week, show up late if at all, and moan about work-life balance for their air-conditioned office job. These are also supposed to be "working class". Sorry, no.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (O0L8i)

255 Where did you go on holiday is way more asked in Europe than what do you do for a living.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 03:23 PM (n5tGW)
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It's kinda like asking "what car you drive?" It's a way of gauging how successful you are without asking flat-out.

Even worse in Asia. They think nothing of asking very personal questions upon first meeting you that no American would ask.

But their cultures are very hierarchical and status-driven, so they are trying to determine where in the pecking order you are, so they can treat you appropriately given your "rank."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (iFTx/)

256 About the ONLY Revolution where those who started it, actually ended up in control at the end, was the US Revolution.

Whole thing was a historic outlier on many many levels.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (mP0Kj)

257 But they're QUICK to jump on the "thousands of murdered kids in Gaza........"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:24 PM (2YhKe)
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When of all organizations found to have slopped numbers together, Hamas seems to have a standalone ineptitude.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (Fi81e)

258 250 I want to know who is behind this......

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
·
1h
WTF. Mexican national illegal alien Brandon Ortiz-Vite, who got decades in prison for kiIIing Ruby Garcia in Michigan, SUES Trump for “humiliating” him by highlighting his crime during the campaign

Ortiz is seeking a public apology, citizenship, and $75 million in damages
Posted by: beckster at July 20, 2026 03:26 PM (kX27y)

And a Unlimited Pasta Pass, don’t forget that.

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (Gqar8)

259 @libsoftiktok
·
1h
WTF. Mexican national illegal alien Brandon Ortiz-Vite, who got decades in prison for kiIIing Ruby Garcia in Michigan, SUES Trump for “humiliating” him by highlighting his crime during the campaign

Ortiz is seeking a public apology, citizenship, and $75 million in damages
Posted by: beckster at July 20, 2026 03:26 PM (kX27y)

GRANTED!!!

Posted by: Lord God King Boasberg at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (2YhKe)

260 Treasury was always a great tool against cartels, terrorism. Cutting off the money, internationally especially, is cutting off the bloodline of terror. It was not easy in the early 2000s, with shadow money transfer netwoks, Hawalas. Now it's crypto.

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (GD0B3)

261 I'll admit I liked it better when when "You were a little hard on the beaver last night, Ward" and it meant telling off their son, not another name for women's public hair and vagina , but I was young and did not think of that when I watched the show. Maybe you older codgers did😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (zqeQL)

262 TJM

"Iran is page 3 news"

That comment isn't going to age well.

Btw, I admire your posts generally. I always read them. I esp enjoy your movie chops.

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (RCjYY)

263 The core have always been commies. TDS just got them to drop the mask.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 03:01 PM (XvL8K)

This! People weren't paying attention. People knew the education systems were just indoctrination centers. Two elements that destroy situational awareness.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2026 03:28 PM (g8Ew8)

264 This is what those data centers will ultimately be used for.
___

"and that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name."
- Revelation 13:17
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 03:23 PM (x7Vzy)
Word.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 03:28 PM (LHPAg)

265 262 TJM

"Iran is page 3 news"

That comment isn't going to age well.

Btw, I admire your posts generally. I always read them. I esp enjoy your movie chops.

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (RCjYY)

mnw. Enjoying our Missouri heat??

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (Gqar8)

266 Many people can’t be bothered to take two weeks off here. I knew many people in the military - 30 days of leave a year, if you get over 60, it starts entering “use of lose” territory” - who kept winding up in “use of lose” situations and were practically forced to take leave.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (4g5V+)
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I took leave maybe three times between 2003-2009.

All after I returned from Iraq. Two weeks each.

When I got out in 2009, I had over 60 days of leave.
I took about a month terminal leave and cashed out the rest.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (x7Vzy)

267 247 > This is what those data centers will ultimately be used for.
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They're for all the surveillance camera data; video, still photos, AI generated data about every person, car, truck and so on that they capture.

It's not 'just' license plates. It's you, your habits, where you go, the route you take, what you buy and where, etc.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 03:25 PM (jehhT)

For this, they need data centers all of a sudden?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (4g5V+)

268 So, if you have to work to pay your bill for your Lamborghini -- there are big bills associated with Lambos, you know -- you're working class? Odd.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

Another reason why it’s a stupid phrase, apart from the Marxism - just about everyone works. So this “working class” is, what, 95% of the adult population?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (4g5V+)
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Yea, even billionaires work -- and many of them work very hard, putting in more hours a week than 90% of most people. I never understood that myself. But I've seen it enough times to know it's the rule rather than the exception.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (iFTx/)

269 262 TJM

"Iran is page 3 news"

That comment isn't going to age well.

Btw, I admire your posts generally. I always read them. I esp enjoy your movie chops.

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (RCjYY)

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10 days into new bombing. The ship to ship transfers on the Omani side of the strait continue unabated no matter how much Iran sends out press releases.

What's affecting gas/oil prices more right now than Iran is Ukraine's assaults on Russian energy infrastructure.

We'll see if American exports increase again. I kind of doubt it. The jump in prices in modest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (UTxF6)

270 @137
marcuse knew.

in the 60s that nightmare scenario could have actually come to pass, it was starting to happen ... lbj's great society fixed that but good then cloward&piven saw the light and gave it a theoretical basis.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (VyBeY)

271 for women's public hair

I'm open-minded. But I don't want it to be public.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (K3f7J)

272 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (zqeQL

"Pubic" hair not public.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (zqeQL)

273 I'd like to see teaching completely reworked. Instead of getting a 6 year teaching degree require 10+ years of work in the field.

And since teaching is more of a part time job anyway, tailor it to people at the end of their private sector career.

So then you'd have a 55 year old industrial chemist say teaching chemistry instead of a 28 year old whose only knowledge of chemistry is from watching Breaking Bad.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:55 PM (sKqQm)
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Eh, the problem is the system. Have you seen what an elementary school teacher is being asked to do in many schools? They spend half their time just handling disruptions from misbehaving kids, and then have to worry about how they react to this misbehavior based upon school district rules on handling behavioral issues. And of course there is all the support they must give to kids who are not being set up for success at home.

Restructure the idea of "educating" everyone. You get to be educated if you are capable of being educated. If not, tough shit.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (GZYu7)

274 They're for all the surveillance camera data; video, still photos, AI generated data about every person, car, truck and so on that they capture.
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What the FLOCK?!

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (Fi81e)

275 For this, they need data centers all of a sudden?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (4g5V+)
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Battlespace prep.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (x7Vzy)

276 Water being turned off.

I love you people.

Posted by: Stateless at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (Fmkks)

277 Get flocked and tracked in everything you do, but nope no ID to vote, that's just to intrusive.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 03:31 PM (n5tGW)

278
Or did I dream that?
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 03:08 PM (6PgKW)

No. That was real.
Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 03:11 PM (w1Bba)

Not to mention one of the higher ups (I want to say that is was Samantha Power and Cass Sunstein, but I could be wrong there) who had big posters of Che Guevara and Stalinist propaganda hanging all over their NY apartment.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2026 03:31 PM (y9nCu)

279 261 I'll admit I liked it better when when "You were a little hard on the beaver last night, Ward" and it meant telling off their son, not another name for women's public hair and vagina , but I was young and did not think of that when I watched the show. Maybe you older codgers did😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (zqeQL)

Hi Fen!! Glad I caught you. My fasting report - I like it!! Staying away from the websites on Thursday and Friday is very healthy. So much so I am going to add Wednesdays too. No newz is indeed good newz.

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:31 PM (Gqar8)

280 Friend of mine used to work on Cape Cod. Some of the locals told him the story of how Provincetown used to be this sort of quiet rundown old fishing village, until the gays from Boston, etc. discovered it and started moving there. Pretty soon their population exceeded the old-timer locals population, and they started to gain elected office. Pretty soon, they were the local government, and the old-time residents were crying in their clam chowder. Not saying it's the same situation, but it's kinda the same.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder
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I can recall when Hilton Head Island had a population of 200 people.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 03:32 PM (XeU6L)

281 266 Many people can’t be bothered to take two weeks off here. I knew many people in the military - 30 days of leave a year, if you get over 60, it starts entering “use of lose” territory” - who kept winding up in “use of lose” situations and were practically forced to take leave.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:07 PM (4g5V+)
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I took leave maybe three times between 2003-2009.

All after I returned from Iraq. Two weeks each.

When I got out in 2009, I had over 60 days of leave.
I took about a month terminal leave and cashed out the rest.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (x7Vzy)
I sold leave once over a 22 year period and that was only a week or so.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 03:32 PM (LHPAg)

282 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:27 PM (zqeQL

"Pubic" hair not public.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (zqeQL)

I mean, they're pretty much public hairs if everyone has seen them

Posted by: Josephistan at July 20, 2026 03:32 PM (y9ksN)

283 If the DSA op is unsuccessful it will be because Trump, a one man wrecking crew, dealt with them hard and put their asses down in the public square. The way he once did The Squad, ten days out of nowhere one October long ago. Basically took away any real influence they had - and it was magical. Ten days it took him.

And maybe that's another reason God spared Trump. Because this operation is far bigger than a few crazies getting together in leftard-land and deciding to "take over". This op has been years in the making. And Trump knows it is here. He already alluded to it in at least one tweet. Watching him take care of them is going to be a fucking thing of beauty. And you don't know when he will do it.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:32 PM (oZ51P)

284 ITC, that wasJay Carney, Barky's press secretary.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 03:32 PM (abScH)

285 Former DSA Member: We Started This Moderate, Wholesome Socialist Group But It Got Taken Over by Extremist Communists, Somehow

______

"INORITE? We also started a moderate group of cannibals who killed people and ate them nicely roasted with a side of arugula and fava beans. Then these savages came into our group and wanted to just hack off limbs and eat their people raw! So uncouth!"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:33 PM (iFTx/)

286 Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:31 PM (Gqar8

That's wonderful to hear. I think I will try taking off several days as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:33 PM (zqeQL)

287 "Pubic" hair not public.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (zqeQL)
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Boy is my face red!

Posted by: Lady Godiva at July 20, 2026 03:33 PM (Fi81e)

288 So then you'd have a 55 year old industrial chemist say teaching chemistry instead of a 28 year old whose only knowledge of chemistry is from watching Breaking Bad.

Posted by: 18-1
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Our math teacher was a retired AF Col.
He had worked on theManhatten Project.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 03:34 PM (XeU6L)

289 Now we throw it all away on another world war. Very sad.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 20, 2026 03:00 PM (JWDez)
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We are spending money for more ammunition, which we would have to do anyway at some point. No where remotely close to a world war. Subversive little fire fights.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:34 PM (GZYu7)

290 tubal

I'm old & largely stay inside. For me, heat waves are a spectator sport.

Btw, I split time between MO & southern IL.

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 03:34 PM (RCjYY)

291 Alopecia means never having to show your public hair.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 03:34 PM (n5tGW)

292 I saw Women's Public Hair open for Wet Leg at Fannie's Fabrics & More in 2017.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:34 PM (2YhKe)

293 women's pubic hair? How 70's.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2026 03:34 PM (UjdFS)

294 Meme I saw last week:

I just want the deportation policy Marth's Vineyard has.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 03:35 PM (Fi81e)

295 Posted by: Josephistan at July 20, 2026 03:32 PM (y9ksN

I got the impression in these later years of mine that nobody else had seen her pubic hair but Mr. Cleaver, although we have a number of people who thought she was getting it on with Eddie Haskell .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:35 PM (zqeQL)

296 Eh, the problem is the system. Have you seen what an elementary school teacher is being asked to do in many schools? They spend half their time just handling disruptions from misbehaving kids, and then have to worry about how they react to this misbehavior based upon school district rules on handling behavioral issues. And of course there is all the support they must give to kids who are not being set up for success at home.

Restructure the idea of "educating" everyone. You get to be educated if you are capable of being educated. If not, tough shit.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (GZYu7)
_____________________________

I'm old enough to remember corporal punishment. I also remember being picked up by my hair for not walking down the hallway single file on my first day of school ever. Needless to say, I always walk down the hallway single file to this day.

Posted by: Orson at July 20, 2026 03:35 PM (dIske)

297 286 Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:31 PM (Gqar8

That's wonderful to hear. I think I will try taking off several days as well.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:33 PM (zqeQL)

Rally very beneficial. The world is a big place, away from the screen. Had a sermon Sunday, the series is on Ecclisiastes, BTW. Point was made that all the “ stuff” we live in is ultimately not the point of life, at all. I need to hold on to that.

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:36 PM (Gqar8)

298 and that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name."
- Revelation 13:17
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 03:23 PM (x7Vzy)
Word.
Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 03:28 PM (LHPAg)

Scary, huh?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2026 03:36 PM (g8Ew8)

299 The DSA Op is blessed and sanctioned from upon high.

Attempting to solve a bunch of problems that Trump left for Democrats and move the country and world left in a single swipe.

Take it to the bank, and cash it.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:37 PM (oZ51P)

300 "I just skip from the front page to Page Six."

Except that Page Six is never on Page Six. I know, as I had to keep up with it in my NYC nightclub doorman days.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at July 20, 2026 03:37 PM (GMWTj)

301
Yea, even billionaires work -- and many of them work very hard, putting in more hours a week than 90% of most people. I never understood that myself. But I've seen it enough times to know it's the rule rather than the exception.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (iFTx/)

Like some Queens vulgarian that I've heard of.

Despite his rep for being a party animal, he'd hit Studio 54 and other similar hot spots with Ivana, totally sober unlike everyone else. But they'd leave early, going home and spending the next 3-4 hours that night working. Every. Night.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2026 03:37 PM (y9nCu)

302 283, that remains my sincere hope through all the FUD.

thank you for saying it out loud.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 03:38 PM (VyBeY)

303 Republicans and older Democrats are just Mensheviks and watching them be ruthlessly purged, tortured, forced to make groveling confessions, and then get executed anyway will be the only silver lining to the Rise of the Monster Babies.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2026 03:38 PM (BI5O2)

304 All the flavors of leftism are so comically retarded that it's a thousand wonders anyone who can remember to breathe on their own would fall for an ideology that's failed every time it's been tried, but here we are.

It would be a laugh riot if its adherents weren't also violent assholes.

Posted by: ballistic at July 20, 2026 03:38 PM (oqH4h)

305 290 tubal

I'm old & largely stay inside. For me, heat waves are a spectator sport.

Btw, I split time between MO & southern IL.
Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 03:34 PM (RCjYY)

“ Checks thermometer on porch”. 97 right now. 57% humidity. The rock garden I am building can wait a while, I am thinking.

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:38 PM (Gqar8)

306 Rubio pretty much declared WAR on communism/socialism in the USA. Communism cannot hide from Rubio!

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 03:39 PM (GD0B3)

307 We're slated for the 100's for the rest of the week. My 30 year old A/C unit is struggling, mightily, and the first electric bill of the real summer is $400.

It'll get worse.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:40 PM (2YhKe)

308 Because once they admit that communism is evil and childish, there's nothing left of their entire ideology. "Moderate leftism" is just a dishonest mask for full-on communism. Admitting that that communism is invalid is like committing suicide t them.
Posted by: zombie at July 20, 2026 03:14 PM (Av6i5)

I recently saw a video explain it all pretty well.

Socialists/Communists don’t debate facts and figures and how the world and economics actually work.

They start with their utopian version of how the world should be and then critique the actual world for not matching up to their vision in every aspect.

To argue against them has no effect because they are not grounded in reality but are, instead, trying to enforce their mass delusions about how the world should be instead of what it actually is.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 20, 2026 03:40 PM (6ydKt)

309 Yea, even billionaires work -- and many of them work very hard, putting in more hours a week than 90% of most people. I never understood that myself. But I've seen it enough times to know it's the rule rather than the exception.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (iFTx/)

Being rich or even somewhat wealthy is largely self-selecting. Working hard, frugality, skill in capital allocation, all help. A tendency to work hard regardless of how much money a person has gives a greater chance of becoming wealthy and staying there. These often aren't calculated decisions but habits and natural tendencies.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 03:41 PM (okun6)

310 Yea, even billionaires work -- and many of them work very hard, putting in more hours a week than 90% of most people. I never understood that myself. But I've seen it enough times to know it's the rule rather than the exception.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:29 PM (iFTx/)

Like some Queens vulgarian that I've heard of.

Despite his rep for being a party animal, he'd hit Studio 54 and other similar hot spots with Ivana, totally sober unlike everyone else. But they'd leave early, going home and spending the next 3-4 hours that night working. Every. Night.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2026 03:37 PM (y9nCu)
_____

Elon too. When I was at the big Manhattan firm, I would get calls from guys worth 100s of millions of dollars ... on Saturday night at like 10:30 pm. "Hey Elric, I want to discuss X."

X was never anything urgent. It was never "I got caught in bed with three prostitutes and a dead goat and now I'm in jail." X was always some bullshit that could wait until Monday.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:41 PM (iFTx/)

311 Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:36 PM (Gqar

I was here much less than I normally am on Sunday. I was at two services that day. Anglican vicar at the church I went to gave a very inspiring sermon on Romans 8:9-17 and it was also a pleasure to see a beautifully dressed family ( wife wearing a long pretty dress and shawl and man wearing a suit and tie). it seemed like they were honoring God on that way -and yes , IMO, people should wear whatever they're comfortable in in church as long as it's not immodest

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:42 PM (zqeQL)

312 306 Rubio pretty much declared WAR on communism/socialism in the USA. Communism cannot hide from Rubio!
Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 03:39 PM (GD0B3)

I notice, from a casual perusal, that a controversy three way between Rubio, Vance and DeSantis is being ginned up. That’ll be with us for a couple of years.

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:42 PM (Gqar8)

313
ITC, that wasJay Carney, Barky's press secretary.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 03:32 PM (abScH)

Ah, I knew it was some high-falutin' Obama Admin muckymuck commie cocksucker, but they all kind of look and act alike. Easy to get 'em mixed up.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2026 03:42 PM (y9nCu)

314 I prefer debating with open communists than slick Establishment Democrats.

Posted by: Leupold at July 20, 2026 03:43 PM (eIzlH)

315 The difference between standard Democrats and DSA is the DSA puts a little heart over the i in Communism.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 03:43 PM (oZ51P)

316 No where remotely close to a world war.
_-_
Sure hope you're right. Just laying down a marker there.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 20, 2026 03:43 PM (JWDez)

317 Mortadella with pistachios, on 3 seed sourdough with spicy mustard and Havarti cheese. And a cold beer. That's what's for lunch.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 03:43 PM (3Ope8)

318 Jimmah put the mullahs in power and El Commandante Zero spent eight years trying to ally himself to them, and, like communists do, wanted also to be allies with Cuba and Venezuela.

And Van Jones was married for a good bit of that time to Jimmah's niece. Thanksgiving conversations in that family must have been focused on who would make good commissars after the revolution and what to next Five Year Plan should include.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 03:44 PM (lfoCS)

319 "MOSTLY PEACEFUL" Iranian Missiles strike Jordan and Kill two young Americans.

Immediately the Democrats call for "Defunding the Police" in Chicago to end this travesty...

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 20, 2026 03:44 PM (qD4Ju)

320
I notice, from a casual perusal, that a controversy three way between Rubio, Vance and DeSantis is being ginned up. That’ll be with us for a couple of years.
Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:42 PM

The media has been selecting your candidate for you for generations. They're getting pissed off because Trump broke that. Oh yeah, they chose him in '16 because they figured Hillary was a shoo-in.

They don't like us having a stacked field and our own ability to choose our own candidate.

They're going to lashing out HARD over the next 2.5 years.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:44 PM (2YhKe)

321 311 Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:36 PM (Gqar

I was here much less than I normally am on Sunday. I was at two services that day. Anglican vicar at the church I went to gave a very inspiring sermon on Romans 8:9-17 and it was also a pleasure to see a beautifully dressed family ( wife wearing a long pretty dress and shawl and man wearing a suit and tie). it seemed like they were honoring God on that way -and yes , IMO, people should wear whatever they're comfortable in in church as long as it's not immodest
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:42 PM (zqeQL)

I teach a Life Group “ Sunday School” IOW and the topic of legalism came up. Interesting discussion. The opinions were as varied as the number of people in the class.

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:44 PM (Gqar8)

322
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
·
1h
WTF. Mexican national illegal alien Brandon Ortiz-Vite, who got decades in prison for kiIIing Ruby Garcia in Michigan, SUES Trump for “humiliating” him by highlighting his crime during the campaign

Ortiz is seeking a public apology, citizenship, and $75 million in damages
Posted by: beckster at July 20, 2026 03:26 PM (kX27y)

Dogs poop a lot. But we clean it up and forget it ever happened.

Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 03:44 PM (w1Bba)

323 I had brought back all sorts or party propaganda posters from the USSR that adorned my walls.

Chicks did not dig it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 03:45 PM (RIvkX)

324 How many DSA members have bodies stashed at home?

Posted by: torabora at July 20, 2026 03:45 PM (FY1RR)

325 To argue against them has no effect because they are not grounded in reality but are, instead, trying to enforce their mass delusions about how the world should be instead of what it actually is.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

A JF Stephen quote:

Love for Humanity, devotion to the All or Universum, and the like, are thus little, if anything, more than a fanatical attachment to some favourite theory about the means by which an indefinite number of unknown persons (whose existence it pleases the theorist’s fancy to assume) may be brought into a state which the theorist calls happiness. A man to whom this ideal becomes so far a reality as to colour his thoughts, his feelings, his estimate of the present and his action towards it, is usually, as repeated experience has shown, perfectly ready to sacrifice that which living people do actually regard as constituting their happiness to his own notions of what will constitute the happiness of other generations.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 03:45 PM (XvL8K)

326 oh happy COJ!

lunch of champions!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 03:45 PM (VyBeY)

327 Isn't Jay Carmey's ex-wife now President of Columbia and running the "Save The DEI!" preservation program.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 03:46 PM (lfoCS)

328 323 I had brought back all sorts or party propaganda posters from the USSR that adorned my walls.

Chicks did not dig it.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 03:45 PM (RIvkX)

Smiling buxom farm girls spouting party slogans??

Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:46 PM (Gqar8)

329 Huck Follywood, yep, Claire Shipman.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 03:47 PM (abScH)

330 I had brought back all sorts or party propaganda posters from the USSR that adorned my walls.

Chicks did not dig it.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 03:45 PM (RIvkX)

My uncle, being a blonde haired, blue eyed German, used to have SS pins and other Nazi paraphernalia that he'd leave in the company vehicles.

He found it hysterical. Not sure anyone else did.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:47 PM (2YhKe)

331 Communists took over the Democrat Party around 1968.

Try 1938: there were plenty of communists in FDR’s administration.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2026 03:47 PM (P6E1+)

332
"Pubic" hair not public.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:30 PM (zqeQL)

All hair is public hair. If you're brave enough.

Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 03:48 PM (w1Bba)

333 had brought back all sorts or party propaganda posters from the USSR that adorned my walls.

Chicks did not dig it.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 03:45 PM
****
I tried to bring back a propaganda poster from my hotel in NORK and they sent me home in a coma after beating me almost to death.

Posted by: Zombie Otto Warmbier at July 20, 2026 03:50 PM (FY1RR)

334 NYC Mayor Mamdani is disingenuous. His comment, 'Oftentimes we're asked how we divide this country." says it all. He views this country as something he can divide into tribal aggression.
Mamdani refuses to specifically define the 'working class' because he is using that vague phrase to falsely identify with the people who work for a living. You know, the labor unions. The working class is unequivocally defined as anyone who is collecting a paycheck or salary for their work effort. That is regardless of their wealth, corporate position, getting a paycheck for daily expenses, or trying to improve their future. Those that do not work for an income are either trust fund babies or retired people who accumulated wealth by working such that they could survive in their golden years.
Anybody who had never worked for a living (aka, Momdani) is not 'the working class'.

Posted by: John at July 20, 2026 03:50 PM (9NUKl)

335 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 03:51 PM (2YhKe)

336 gotta wonder when jimmah went over to the party line; ... weird to think of a closeted commie as reactor officer on a sub, but I guess one of the lessons of the past decade or so is that almost nothing is all that improbable, any more.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 03:51 PM (VyBeY)

337 Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
·
1h
WTF. Mexican national illegal alien Brandon Ortiz-Vite, who got decades in prison for kiIIing Ruby Garcia in Michigan, SUES Trump for “humiliating” him by highlighting his crime during the campaign

Ortiz is seeking a public apology, citizenship, and $75 million in damages
Posted by: beckster at July 20, 2026 03:26 PM (kX27y)

Dogs poop a lot. But we clean it up and forget it ever happened.
Posted by: Simple Truths at July 20, 2026 03:44
******
Lol. Brandon Ortiz-Vite filed the lawsuit pro se (as his own attorney) with a handwritten complaint in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan. No attorney is involved,

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 03:52 PM (NpAcC)

338 Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:44 PM (Gqar8

The vicar mentioned something which I had never heard before . He said he knew of people who call themselves "carnal Christians" who say "Jesus is my Savior, not my Lord." I think he thought it was weird and not Biblical. Me too. If he's not your Lord, who is.? Your carnal nature? We are all sinners in need of God's grace and forgiveness but the indwelling Holy Spirit works to make us from within

This endeth the lesson. Forgive me. I didn't preach yesterday so I'm doing it today, I guess.

I am glad you teach Sunday school . May God bless you! And do check in sometimes to tell us how the fast is going.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 03:52 PM (zqeQL)

339 I notice, from a casual perusal, that a controversy three way between Rubio, Vance and DeSantis is being ginned up. That’ll be with us for a couple of years.
Posted by: tubal at July 20, 2026 03:42 PM
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JD and Marco are going to play rock-paper-scissors to see who tops the ticket. DeSantis slots in as the AG.

Posted by: ballistic at July 20, 2026 03:53 PM (oqH4h)

340 The vicar mentioned something which I had never heard before . He said he knew of people who call themselves "carnal Christians" who say "Jesus is my Savior, not my Lord." I think he thought it was weird and not Biblical. Me too. If he's not your Lord, who is.? Your carnal nature? We are all sinners in need of God's grace and forgiveness but the indwelling Holy Spirit works to make us from within
=====

I guess I could see some semantic case to be made that God is one's Lord and worked through his son Jesus to save your soul, but that seems nitpicky and I'm not a religious scholar by any means.

Posted by: ballistic at July 20, 2026 03:55 PM (oqH4h)

341 Plus, I'll bet a lot of $$ that many if not most of the foreigners who were here for weeks -- many were not here that long -- are quite affluent. I don't think we got the slum-dwellers here.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 03:17 PM (iFTx/)
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By definition they have some wealth just to come overseas - but remember, most have no kids, so you don't need to make that much to save up for airfare. Plus in Europe, soccer is the sport of the working class, and poor - much like football is here.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 03:55 PM (GZYu7)

Dead Body Found at Home Belonging to Criminal Husband of Bald-Headed Freak Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley

Black Uncle Fester's thug husband:

The felony-convicted husband of progressive "squad" lawmaker Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., slapped a phone out of a reporter's hands Monday inside a city hall building after they attempted to approach the congresswoman to ask her a question about alleged childcare fraud in Minnesota.
"Congresswoman Pressley, do you support --" the interviewer could be heard asking as he approached Pressley with his phone camera on record before Conan Harris, Pressley's husband who spent 10 years in prison on felony drug trafficking charges, smacked the phone out of the questioner's hand.
"Sir, you cannot take my phone out of my hand," the questioner could be heard saying, before the phone was picked back up and returned to focus. Harris spent 10 years in prison on a drug trafficking charge before marrying Pressley, who said she draws from his experience of reintegrating into regular society after leaving prison to help inform how she advocates for incarcerated, or previously incarcerated, individuals.

Massachusetts' leftwing grifter governor gave this guy $600 million to restore a courthouse.

That's not even the worst part. The worst part is that Massachusetts won't even own the courthouse they're giving this guy $600 million for -- instead, they've signed a 40 year lease to rent the building from him, bringing the total value of this grift to two fucking billion fucking dollars.

Two billion dollars of DEI and incestuous graft among political pals:

A company where the husband of Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., is a partner was selected for a nearly $2 billion deal to build a new courthouse in Springfield, Massachusetts -- a decision now being challenged in court by rejected bidders who allege conflicts of interest tainted the process.
Conan Harris, who has been married to the Massachusetts Democrat for more than a decade, is a partner with John Barros in CoJo Real Estate, which is part of the Liberty Junction team selected in early July for the 40-year courthouse lease, according to the lawsuit.
The plaintiffs allege Barros' role as interim executive director of the Massachusetts Convention Center Authority (MCCA) created a conflict of interest because several members of that agency's board also serve on the Massachusetts Division of Capital Asset Management and Maintenance, the state agency that selected Liberty Junction.
Pressley, a member of the "Squad," was not accused of any wrongdoing by the plaintiffs, and there is no evidence she was involved in the bidding process to rebuild the aging Roderick L. Ireland Courthouse.
Records show the bidding process formally began June 30, 2025, when DCAMM released its request for proposals for the Springfield courthouse project.
The plaintiffs argued that when Barros became the head of the MCCA on Jan. 14, 2026, he did not disclose his participation in the courthouse bidding process to the State Ethics Commission.
The lawsuit also said the Liberty Junction proposal was not updated to indicate that Barros had been appointed to a leading role on the MCCA.
Massachusetts law generally bars state employees from having a direct or indirect financial interest in state contracts, unless they qualify for an exemption, such as by making required disclosures to the State Ethics Commission and not participating in the contracting agency's work.
Fox News Digital reached out to Barros and Harris for comment.

And now, a dead body is found at this guy's property.

Crime scene tape cordoned off a home owned by the husband of Rep. Ayanna Presley (D-MA) Saturday night as Boston homicide detectives investigated a dead body police found at the property.
A police spokesman told CBS News that officers were called to the house on Malta Street in Boston's Mattapan neighborhood at 1:52 p.m. "for a report to investigate a person."
When they arrived, they found the person deceased, the spokesman said.
Police have released no further details such as the cause or manner of death, but the homicide unit is now investigating the incident.
CBS reported late Saturday:
According to property records from the city of Boston, Pressley's husband, Conan Harris, is listed as the owner of the Malta Street home. The property has an assessed value of $919,000.
The two-story, seven bedroom house was built in 1910. Pressley and Harris do not live at the home. It's a rental property that's currently for sale. The asking price is $1.15 million.

Is this something? I doubt it. The criminal doesn't live at this address.

But these Power Communists sure do seem to own a lot of million-dollar properties, don't they?

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:18 PM

Comments

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1 In this country, you gotta make the money first.

Then when you get the money, you get the power.

Then when you get the power, then you get the women.

Then, when you get the women, you get the FIRST!

But that ain't easy, because you gotta beat The Blade to get there.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 01:17 PM (iFTx/)

2 "Black Uncle Fester"

DAMAGE!!!

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at July 20, 2026 01:18 PM (Ft5W9)

3 A murder of crows.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:18 PM (Fi81e)

4 Ace is alive!

Posted by: Inogame at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (53oGX)

5 Is this guy trying to be Stringer Bell?

Posted by: PabloD at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (ICmKm)

6 What, another yellow fever victim?

Posted by: Teddy Brewster at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (rbvCR)

Posted by: Obama's Chef at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (oZ51P)

8 I'm sure the body just found its way there.

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2026 01:20 PM (YwEeS)

9 Sloth.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 01:20 PM (jnBG1)

10 Remember someone murdered Obama's chef/boyfriend at his MA mansion as well.

These Mass Dems are bloodthirsty...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:20 PM (sKqQm)

11 See, he's fine. Now just don't forget what we told you, Mr O'Spades.

Posted by: Big Penguin at July 20, 2026 01:20 PM (MWfyi)

12 Nice to see you, ace, I thought your alarm clock had malfunctioned.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 20, 2026 01:21 PM (ibDUx)

13 But these Power Communists sure do seem to own a lot of million-dollar properties, don't they?

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:18 PM
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Buy Large Mansions! is their battle cry.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:21 PM (Fi81e)

14 The boldness of elected black leaders to engage in corruption is something to behold.

I guess they're smart in that the world (culture, media, Dem leaders, academia, hollywood, etc) will circle the wagons to protect them at any cost.

Posted by: Leupold at July 20, 2026 01:21 PM (eIzlH)

15 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)

16 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2YhKe)

17 "Black Uncle Fester"

Emotional damage, triple the normal damage.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (Q/FnY)

18 Ace, you do not get fruit cup.

Posted by: Nurse Diesel at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (Q6P2R)

19 Top o' the nooner to ya, Ace!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2YhKe)

20 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)
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Get Out the Vote action.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:23 PM (Fi81e)

21 'He shouldn't be hard to find. He leaves dead people everywhere.'

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 01:23 PM (LHPAg)

22 MA is arguably the most corrupt state in the Union:

1) The State SC kicked a voter initiative to lower taxes off the ballot after the governor and other dems told them to do it

2) The legislature decided to ignore a previous voter initiative to have them be audited because...well...you know why...

3) The state government kicked several Republican candidates off the ballot because they claim some of the signatures to get them on the ballot were duplicates. Note they also claim there is never ever election fraud

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:23 PM (sKqQm)

23 He was tonsured to death.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 01:23 PM (jnBG1)

24 Socialists love to make money even more than you do when you aren’t looking (h/t, RHLIII).

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:24 PM (4g5V+)

25 BTW the guy Ayanna's boyfriend totally didn't murder is going to vote for all the Dem candidates come this November

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:24 PM (sKqQm)

26 Hang them all.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 20, 2026 01:24 PM (dK+Kv)

27 But these Power Communists sure do seem to own a lot of million-dollar properties, don't they?

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:18 PM

But there's no corruption in the Democrat party, Ace.

None whatsoever. All of them are so above board, they're in the clouds.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM (2YhKe)

28 15 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)

It’s a Dead Man’s Party.
Who could ask for more?

Posted by: Oingo Boingo at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM (4g5V+)

29 So who does live there? And why is it only in his name?

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM (hftzA)

30 The two-story, seven bedroom house was built in 1910. Pressley and Harris do not live at the home. It's a rental property that's currently for sale. The asking price is $1.15 million.
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Another example of socialism working for the people.

"Capitalism as we know it no longer works."
-Gavin Big Dummy Newsom

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM (RIvkX)

31 Good afternoon Ace.
A dead body involving a Massachusetts politician that isn't a Kennedy. Will wonders never cease

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM (sMkB+)

32 First word that comes to mind upon hearing this story:

Witness

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM (0U5gm)

33 What, another yellow fever victim?
Posted by: Teddy Brewster at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (rbvCR)

Perfect!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM (wVcYX)

34 We don’t like this but if we vote Republican gays will be rounded up and sent to extermination camps. And slavery will return. So $2B graft it is.

Posted by: Massachusetts voters at July 20, 2026 01:26 PM (GEtfQ)

35 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S.
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lol

I read that in Andy Rooney's voice.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 01:26 PM (XeU6L)

36 Ace, you do not get fruit cup.
Posted by: Nurse Diesel at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (Q6P2R)
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Can I have it?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 01:26 PM (RIvkX)

37 15 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)

Sounds like my kind of people.

Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at July 20, 2026 01:26 PM (4g5V+)

38 The death will be listed as the first fatality from the exploding diarrhea parasite.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:26 PM (2YhKe)

39 Socialists love to make money even more than you do when you aren’t looking (h/t, RHLIII).

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:24 PM (4g5V+)
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There is no lack of greed in socialist governments.

Marx should have consulted the Lord on this whole "people should not do" stuff. Maybe he would have found out from an old hand at it.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:26 PM (Fi81e)

40 Representative Ayanna Pressley's estimated net worth is between $4.8 million and $8 million. Her wealth has grown from roughly -$12,500 in 2018 prior to taking office. Her primary assets include five residential rental properties in Massachusetts (including a home on Martha's Vineyard) and income from her husband Conan Harris's consulting firm.

Note she married Harris in 2014 so she didn't get rich by marriage...she got rich through graft.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:27 PM (sKqQm)

41 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)
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Yeah, right?

Posted by: Zombie Mary Jo Kopechne at July 20, 2026 01:27 PM (RIvkX)

42 Can Ace get some of the orange slices left behind at the World Cup?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:27 PM (4g5V+)

43 Grifter bought the Paul Pelosi home-study course.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 20, 2026 01:28 PM (rJ48h)

44 *whistles*

Posted by: Ed Buck at July 20, 2026 01:28 PM (xarhI)

45 Death by gunshots?

Hey Mayor Wu, how did your gun control laws work again?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 01:28 PM (2GVsD)

46 15 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)

Sounds like my kind of people.
Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at July 20, 2026 01:26 PM (4g5V+)

You'll fit right in.

Posted by: Jim Jones at July 20, 2026 01:28 PM (wVcYX)

47 Kigfish.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 01:28 PM (LHPAg)

48 None whatsoever.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM (2YhKe)
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And by "none", I mean a bit. Quite a bit, actually.

Posted by: The Colonel at July 20, 2026 01:28 PM (Fi81e)

49 There is no lack of greed in socialist governments.

Marx should have consulted the Lord on this whole "people should not do" stuff. Maybe he would have found out from an old hand at it.
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:26 PM (Fi81e)

Just look at the GDR’s KoKo (Commercial Coordination). Nuff said.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:28 PM (4g5V+)

50 So the stiff wasn't Pressley?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:29 PM (1z8ji)

51 OT- guess they judge-shopped. Wonder who the judge is:

A judge on Monday paused Paramount’s $110 billion acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery, after a group of 12 Democratic attorneys general led by California sued to block the deal, arguing it would harm consumers and reduce competition.

California Attorney General Rob Bonta had argued the merger would lead to “higher prices, lower quality, and less content for film and television, harming movie theaters, basic cable distributors, and ultimately, audiences on every sofa and movie theater seat in the US.”

Posted by: beckster at July 20, 2026 01:29 PM (kX27y)

52 Wait til we see what that greasy shitstain Momdammi does.

This is just amazing. The amount of open fraud everywhere is fucked up.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz PhD Esq at July 20, 2026 01:29 PM (et1vG)

53 You know what I love? Elected Democrats see their wealth increased by $1M/year on a $174k salary.

Really they should get out of government and into financial planning

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:29 PM (sKqQm)

54 These insider connected deals reach new levels every year.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 01:29 PM (n5tGW)

55 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)

Sounds like my kind of people.
Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at July 20, 2026 01:26 PM (4g5V+)

You'll fit right in.
Posted by: Jim Jones at July 20, 2026 01:28 PM (wVcYX)
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Ha! Like you filled mass graves!! I'm the expert at filling in mass graves!

Posted by: Uncle Joe at July 20, 2026 01:29 PM (Fi81e)

56 So the stiff wasn't Pressley?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:29 PM (1z8ji)

Would that ugly, obnoxious bitch make you stiff?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:30 PM (2YhKe)

57 These Mass Dems are bloodthirsty...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:20 PM

Er, uh...it was an ahccident.

*hic*

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at July 20, 2026 01:30 PM (bFu5X)

58 Police suspect fair play.

Posted by: In my best Dennis Miller voice at July 20, 2026 01:30 PM (2Ez/1)

59 In other news, England has a new Prime Minister.

Bad news, just a bad as Keir.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 01:31 PM (2GVsD)

60 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)
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Yeah, right?
Posted by: Zombie Mary Jo Kopechne
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Lately, I've being called back here.

Posted by: Martha Moxley at July 20, 2026 01:31 PM (XeU6L)

61 Police suspect fair play.

Posted by: In my best Dennis Miller voice at July 20, 2026 01:30 PM (2Ez/1)
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Police suspect FAFO.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:31 PM (Fi81e)

62 Oh, that?
/feigning nonchalance

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 01:31 PM (RIvkX)

63 hobo ass is the best tasting ass

Posted by: Sid at July 20, 2026 01:31 PM (TeIRJ)

64 57 These Mass Dems are bloodthirsty...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:20 PM
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Mary Jo Kopechne unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Someone has to say it at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (2Ez/1)

65 Lots of people have had dead bodies at their homes.

Posted by: Sen Schiff at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (kj0cq)

66 I did a little more research on the very smelly courthouse deal. The other bidders' real beef with CoJo getting the contract doesn't have much to do with the mutant Conehead's husband.

The real beef is with his partner in CoJo, John Barros. He's the executive director of the powerful MCCA and several members of that agency's board are also on the board of the agency selecting the contractor (DCAMM).

Barros basically controls the people -- or at least has significant influence over the people -- who selected his company as the contractor. He never publicly disclosed this obvious contract until after the fact. I think the mutant's husband is probably one of a number of "influential names" that projects like this attract as windowdressing.

The plan is also for the courthouse to be operational and occupied by 2030. There's not a chance on Earth of that happening. 2035, if they're lucky.

The deal smells to high heaven. I think it's little more than a white elephant.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (iFTx/)

67 DSA: There is no constitutional right to make double digit profit on property.

New Hotness: Unless you’re fleecing the taxpayers, then your good to go making BILLIONS

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (4KUe5)

68 "Whatever you do, don't look under the floorboards for raped & dead black boys!"

-- Adam Schitt and his BFF Ed Buck

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (6jTT/)

69 Lots of people have had dead bodies at their homes.
Posted by: Sen Schiff at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (kj0cq)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Zombie John Wayne Gacy at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (2YhKe)

70 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)

It’s a Dead Man’s Party.
Who could ask for more?
Posted by: Oingo Boingo at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM

*golf clap*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (bFu5X)

71 Lots of people have had dead bodies at their homes.

Posted by: Sen Schiff at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (kj0cq)
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I only had gold in my freezer!!

Posted by: That Senator at July 20, 2026 01:33 PM (Fi81e)

72 Ace we thought the busty lesbian got you

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:33 PM (oZ51P)

73 DSA: There is no constitutional right to breath.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 01:33 PM (6jTT/)

74 California Attorney General Rob Bonta had argued the merger would lead to “higher prices, lower quality, and less content for film and television, harming movie theaters, basic cable distributors, and ultimately, audiences on every sofa and movie theater seat in the US.”

Posted by: beckster

I honestly cannot envision lower quality than what is currently being produced.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 20, 2026 01:33 PM (0U5gm)

75 43 Grifter bought the Paul Pelosi home-study course.
Posted by: mr tmz at July 20, 2026 01:28 PM

It's hammer time.

Posted by: 3 lb sledge at July 20, 2026 01:34 PM (2Ez/1)

76 Only a politician (or spouse thereof) would own a million dollar property and not live there… these people are unbelievable

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 01:34 PM (TCUO6)

77 Maybe the husband was on the contract to facilitate the kickback from John Barton’s. Is he the equivalent of “ ten percent for the big guy?”

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 01:34 PM (4KUe5)

78 Ace we thought the busty lesbian got you

Well you can be pretty sure a lesbian wouldn't kill Ace via snu snu

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:34 PM (sKqQm)

79 Posted by: Someone has to say it at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (2Ez/1)

She's been here and gone bro.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 01:34 PM (RIvkX)

80 The two-story, seven bedroom house was built in 1910. Pressley and Harris do not live at the home. It's a rental property that's currently for sale. The asking price is $1.15 million.
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Maybe the dead guy was a potential buyer. And the real estate agent showing him around just happened to be a contract killer in disguise.

I learned that's a possibility from playing Hitman: World of Assassination.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 01:35 PM (FZ29D)

81 Geeze Sid, can I keep my doc? Will I save $2,500 a year in medical costs? Will my chef get a paddleboard?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 01:35 PM (XeU6L)

82 We're still here!

Posted by: Monkeypox at July 20, 2026 01:35 PM (kj0cq)

83 Lots of people have had dead bodies at their homes.

Posted by: Sen Schiff at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (kj0cq)

Mother says strange things happen in politics, rent homes, and motels.

Posted by: Norman Bates at July 20, 2026 01:35 PM (wVcYX)

84 Only a politician (or spouse thereof) would own a million dollar property and not live there… these people are unbelievable
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 01:34 PM (TCUO6)
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Must be an investment property being used as a tax shelter or something...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 01:35 PM (FZ29D)

85 Only a politician (or spouse thereof) would own a million dollar property and not live there… these people are unbelievable
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 01:34 PM (TCUO6)
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I am 100% confident the financing was on legitimate terms available to any American with credit.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (RIvkX)

86 California Attorney General Rob Bonta had argued the merger would lead to “higher prices, lower quality, and less content for film and television, harming movie theaters, basic cable distributors, and ultimately, audiences on every sofa and movie theater seat in the US.”
Posted by: beckster

I have to assume Paramount hasn't paid the bribes demanded of them. This thing doesn't make sense.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (diia5)

87 "Is this something? I doubt it. The criminal doesn't live at this address."

I suspect it's a similar situation to that slimy Fed member (?) who owns a rental property that's occupied by her half-whore niece (?) and her drug-dealing "boyfriend." It was obvious to me that property was being used as a drug den and probably a whorehouse too (properties are often used for these two purposes).

I suspect the same is true of this property.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (iFTx/)

88 We're still here!
Posted by: Monkeypox at July 20, 2026 01:35 PM

Ha! Gaaaaaayyyy!!!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (bFu5X)

89 Well, he wasn't dead dead.

Posted by: Simian minded Whoopie at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (ourEi)

90 Geeze Sid, can I keep my doc? Will I save $2,500 a year in medical costs? Will my chef get a paddleboard?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 01:35 PM (XeU6L)

I'm still waiting for my 3000% savings for healthcare.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (2YhKe)

91 Yeah, Sid. Just like we are afraid of a horde of brainless zombies.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (Fi81e)

92 If a merger results in less than 50% of the market I say it should be approved . The number could even be higher but that should be the base. Same with companies that build to that market share.

When they broke up Standard Oil it had only 40% of the market. He paid people more and his product was less expensive because he ran a more efficient operation. The competition didn't like that so they had the government go after him.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (KC5Lt)

93 You have to wonder what the country would have been like if the fucking Democrats had spent all that grift on it instead of themselves or on programs meant to destroy.

God help us, but the entire (D) party needs to buried alive in a box.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 01:37 PM (jehhT)

94
I have to assume Paramount hasn't paid the bribes demanded of them. This thing doesn't make sense.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (diia5)

Must have donated to a Republican....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 01:37 PM (rijjI)

95 "Only a politician (or spouse thereof) would own a million dollar property and not live there…"

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It's a write off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 20, 2026 01:37 PM (2Ez/1)

96 She is as anti- American as they come, yet she is married to a felon who spent 10 years in jail, and now he is a millionaire business owner. Okay…..

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 01:38 PM (hftzA)

97
I have to assume Paramount hasn't paid the bribes demanded of them. This thing doesn't make sense.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (diia5)

Paramount signed an exclusive deal with the UFC. The UFC is run by Dana White. White is a Trump supporter.

The $1bn they gave the South Park douchbags can't make up for that.

They must be punished.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:38 PM (2YhKe)

98 Lots of people have had dead bodies at their homes.
Posted by: Sen Schiff
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Or, their ponds.

Posted by: Barky at July 20, 2026 01:38 PM (XeU6L)

99 But he makes such nice coffee, tho...

@TPostMillennial 4m
BREAKING UPDATE: Andrew Arrabaca ID'd as suspect arrested for setting fire outside NYC federal building

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:38 PM (diia5)

100 She's got more houses than Bernie.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 01:38 PM (KC5Lt)

101 You have to wonder what the country would have been like if the fucking Democrats had spent all that grift on it instead of themselves or on programs meant to destroy.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 01:37 PM (jehhT)
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At least FDR wanted to spend part of his time improving America.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:38 PM (Fi81e)

102 "...needs to buried alive in a box."
++++
Two words: Stop it.

Posted by: Bob Newhart at July 20, 2026 01:38 PM (2Ez/1)

103 Saw a funny video earlier.

Guy is sitting home alone with a mask on and says;

Good thing we fired millions of people for not getting the clot shot in 2020 so we could import millions of people who also didn't get the clot shot.

Imagine how many lives we saved doing this!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:39 PM (sKqQm)

104 I thought the murder house was only valued at $919,000.

Or did having a body in the house increase the value?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 01:39 PM (2GVsD)

105 God help us, but the entire (D) party needs to buried alive in a box.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 01:37 PM

Don't be looking over here, mister.

Posted by: Schrödinger's Cat at July 20, 2026 01:39 PM (bFu5X)

106 Posted by: Sid at July 20, 2026 01:31 PM (TeIRJ)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at July 20, 2026 01:39 PM (2YhKe)

107 I only had gold in my freezer!!
Posted by: That Senator at July 20, 2026 01:33 PM (Fi81e)

It was $90k in cash. It cost me 13 good years in a PMITA fed prison in Texas.

Posted by: Fmr Congressman William "Cold Cash" Jefferson (D-LA) at July 20, 2026 01:39 PM (wVcYX)

108 But there's no corruption in the Democrat party, Ace.

None whatsoever. All of them are so above board, they're in the clouds.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:25 PM (2YhKe)

Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2026 01:40 PM (sGgMH)

109 104 I thought the murder house was only valued at $919,000.

Or did having a body in the house increase the value?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 01:39 PM

Well now you get your very own ghost included in the sale.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 01:40 PM (hftzA)

110 Several times a day now I run across a mug shut of some criminal or other filed as "white" that look not-white enough to play Helen of Troy in the Odyssey

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (sKqQm)

111 God help us, but the entire (D) party needs to buried alive in a box.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 01:37 PM (jehhT)

The Vanishing would’ve been better if it were the Dems buried alive by creepy Jeff Bridges…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (TCUO6)

112 Over at Insty, he has a nice rundown of the work experience of all these DSA progressive Dems.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (3cUTc)

113 In case you're not familiar with it:

https://youtu.be/3GWaeYRirdU

Posted by: Bob Newhart at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (2Ez/1)

114 I thought the murder house was only valued at $919,000.

Or did having a body in the house increase the value?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 01:39 PM

They BETTER not be overvaluing the property. We've all seen how THAT works out......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (2YhKe)

115 If ghosts are the remaining psychic energy of people who died under tragic circumstances, why don't we have reports of people seeing crackhead ghosts? HMMMM?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (diia5)

116 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S.

Voter outreach.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (ndZc7)

117 Speaking of guns, Beretta is leaving Maryland.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (2GVsD)

118 Pressller and her hubba don't live there ... AND NEITHER DOES THE DEAD GUY.

Posted by: B ROTHELBURGER at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (ehY6c)

119 The reports are now that the dead boy died from a ... gunshot wound.

See my comment above. Trust the Blade. He knows things. Always trust The Blade.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (iFTx/)

120 So wait, Sid is arguing we shouldn't be afraid of Socialists because they have a program that would improve the nation? And that these National Socialists will also solve the "Jewish problem"?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (sKqQm)

121 I'm surprised they're even building a courthouse in a blue shithole State.

Wouldn't it be more "socially just" and profitable to simply burn them all down and award the contracts to Pantyfa, Black Lunatics Matter, The DSA, Democrat-Communist Party, The Mad Mullahs, and Chy-na?

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (6jTT/)

122
Well now you get your very own ghost included in the sale.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 01:40 PM (hftzA)

Have you seen Elvis and have you spoke to him lately?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (2YhKe)

123 Over at Insty, he has a nice rundown of the work experience of all these DSA progressive Dems.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM

Work experience, or "work" experience?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (bFu5X)

124 Once again, corroborating evidence that Congress is mainly about graft these days.

They probably hate that interruption to their grifting when we want to see them passing laws and conducting hearings.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (Fi81e)

125 On the face of it, I'd say "fuck the Massholes, I hope they enjoy shoveling graft into that Pressley crook and her gangbanger husband's greedy little gullets."

But we all know their $600m-$2b is being funneled through MA State government from us.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM (BI5O2)

126 A developer planning a massive data center complex, Imperial Valley Computer Manufacturing, is currently suing for access to 260 million gallons of Colorado River water a year (roughly 750,000 gallons a day).

That's basically about what I use to water my lawn or fill my pool.

Stop buying into the propaganda.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM (uSpHL)

127 Pressller and her hubba don't live there ... AND NEITHER DOES THE DEAD GUY.
Posted by: B ROTHELBURGER at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (ehY6c)

This is what you get when Mary Cloggenstein attempts a sock......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM (2YhKe)

128 At least FDR wanted to spend part of his time improving America.
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:38 PM (Fi81e)

Have you seen the WPA murals?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM (sGgMH)

129 Was Old Lady Rodham involved?

Posted by: The ghost of Vince Foster at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM (2Ez/1)

130 Because everyone needs a ghost with blood oozing out of bullet holes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM (2GVsD)

131 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:22 PM (2ocoG)

Their main constituency

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM (oZ51P)

132 Well now you get your very own ghost included in the sale.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 01:40 PM (hftzA)

It's not so bad.

Posted by: Mrs. Muir at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM (wVcYX)

133 What is it with Democrats and dead bodies?
Posted by: Ian S.

Voter outreach.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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If that doesn't make the Comments of the Week list, I will be disappointed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM (XeU6L)

134 Here's the update that the guy was killed by a gunshot. He's also a criminal himself.

https://tinyurl.com/3ectayxn

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (iFTx/)

135 Pressller and her hubba don't live there ... AND NEITHER DOES THE DEAD GUY.

So which of these options are true?

1) Victim was schtupping Ayanna and was shot by her husband

2) Victim was schtupping husband and was shot by Ayanna

3) Victim made the mistake of taking more then his cut...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (sKqQm)

136 Pressller and her hubba don't live there ... AND NEITHER DOES THE DEAD GUY.

Posted by: B ROTHELBURGER at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (ehY6c)
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Even if he usta, he don't live there no more.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (Fi81e)

137 She and her husband belong in prison. Her being allowed to hold public office is outrageous.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (826kS)

138 Assuming the redevelopment costs were $600 million, it's not, it's padded, what kind of freaking state government building needs that level. The govt approvers need to be canned and un-elected.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (n5tGW)

139 Black Democrats wonder why they get a bad reputation. This is why.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (sYM3s)

140 Point of order: Mary is in Vermont.

Posted by: Person who likes to say Point Of Order at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (2Ez/1)

141 If ghosts are the remaining psychic energy of people who died under tragic circumstances, why don't we have reports of people seeing crackhead ghosts? HMMMM?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (diia5)

Maybe dead crackheads aren't a tragedy?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:45 PM (1z8ji)

142 124 Once again, corroborating evidence that Congress is mainly about graft these days.

They probably hate that interruption to their grifting when we want to see them passing laws and conducting hearings.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:42 PM (Fi81e)

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It's why the only material thing Congress passed under Biden with a thin majority in both chambers was the Inflation Reduction Act which was just a huge handout to cronies.

No effort at all at policy changes. Just graft in terms of trillions of dollars.

No, they didn't break Manchin's legs and get 50 votes for amnesty of all illegals with Kamala breaking the tie.

They gave cash to Manchin to pass it because the Democrat Party doesn't actually care about legislative policy gains anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 01:45 PM (UTxF6)

143 Well now you get your very own ghost included in the sale.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 01:40 PM (hftzA)

It's not so bad.
Posted by: Mrs. Muir
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Easy for you to say.

Posted by: Ebenezer Scrooge at July 20, 2026 01:45 PM (XeU6L)

144 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (ndZc7)

DAMN YOU

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:45 PM (oZ51P)

145 It's not just that all these DSA progressives have almost no private sector work experience, it's that they are almost obscenely allergic to any work--entire lives in government.

There's a reason their messages resonate with the downwardly mobile, white, laptop class:
It's the example of the promise that their college degree guaranteed them a life of power, prestige and ... no work.

If they got theirs, I gots to get mine.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 01:45 PM (3cUTc)

146 Well now you get your very own ghost included in the sale.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 01:40 PM (hftzA)

It's not so bad.
Posted by: Mrs. Muir at July 20, 2026 01:43 PM

Says you!

Posted by: Luther Heggs at July 20, 2026 01:45 PM (bFu5X)

147 I have to assume Paramount hasn't paid the bribes demanded of them. This thing doesn't make sense.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:36 PM (diia5)
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Biden appointee from 2023, almost had her confirmation torpedoed but VP Kamala came in to save the day and break the tie:

The states' top prosecutors called on Warner and Paramount to not close the transaction until after a court had time to "fully evaluate" their claims. And when the companies refused, they filed for a temporary restraining order — which is what District Judge Araceli Martínez-Olguín granted on Monday. That opens the door to a potential preliminary injunction that the states are also seeking to effectively block the deal.

Posted by: beckster at July 20, 2026 01:45 PM (kX27y)

148 developer planning a massive data center complex, Imperial Valley Computer Manufacturing, is currently suing for access to 260 million gallons of Colorado River water a year (roughly 750,000 gallons a day).------

And that's with a closed loop cooling system.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 01:45 PM (KC5Lt)

149
Is this guy trying to be Stringer Bell?
Posted by: PabloD at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (ICmKm)

Stringer was an idiot and weakling who thought he was smart because he was going to community college. Dressed well, though.

He was almost as stupid and gullible as Marlo Stanfield. In both cases, Prop Joe easily strung them along, at least until Joe's own nephew betrayed him to Marlo. Not that it did Cheese much good when Slim Charles realized that he was responsible for getting Joe capped.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2026 01:46 PM (y9nCu)

150
135 Pressller and her hubba don't live there ... AND NEITHER DOES THE DEAD GUY.

So which of these options are true?

1) Victim was schtupping Ayanna and was shot by her husband

2) Victim was schtupping husband and was shot by Ayanna

3) Victim made the mistake of taking more then his cut...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (sKqQm)

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4) They let some low-life drug addict live there as part of some kind of mortgage grift and the guy od'd?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 01:46 PM (UTxF6)

151 imagine a federal budget that contained no fraud.

the deficit would be about a dollar fifty.

I was cynical, for decades, but the actual scale of the theft goes beyond mere mind-boggling. it's insane. un-effing-believable.

and that still probably understates the magnitude.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 01:46 PM (VyBeY)

152 So which of these options are true?

1) Victim was schtupping Ayanna and was shot by her husband

2) Victim was schtupping husband and was shot by Ayanna

3) Victim made the mistake of taking more then his cut...

Posted by: 18-1
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4) all of the above ✅︎

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 01:46 PM (826kS)

153 Hey Conan, nice job of screening and vetting your tenants, dickhead!

Posted by: Ayana Pressley at July 20, 2026 01:46 PM (wVcYX)

154 If ghosts are the remaining psychic energy of people who died under tragic circumstances, why don't we have reports of people seeing crackhead ghosts? HMMMM?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (diia5)
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I think that's how we get poltergeists.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 01:47 PM (FZ29D)

155 It was a mostly peaceful shooting.

Posted by: Local media at July 20, 2026 01:47 PM (2Ez/1)

156 134 Here's the update that the guy was killed by a gunshot. He's also a criminal himself.

https://tinyurl.com/3ectayxn
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (iFTx/)

Interesting so Mr. Harris/Pressley was a convicted drug offender who spent 10 years in jail.. The plot thickens

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 01:47 PM (rijjI)

157 Charlatans become Democrats for the same reason Willie Sutton robbed banks.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:47 PM (oZ51P)

158 Voter outreach.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Hilarious. Sad and true but still funny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (jt/rW)

159 4) They let some low-life drug addict live there as part of some kind of mortgage grift and the guy od'd?

They thought the cops said he was shot?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (sKqQm)

160
Interesting so Mr. Harris/Pressley was a convicted drug offender who spent 10 years in jail.. The plot thickens
Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 01:47 PM (rijjI)

So, we know he's innocent because he was convicted of a felony and can't own a gun.

Right? RIGHT!!!?????

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (2YhKe)

161 Black Democrats wonder why they get a bad reputation. This is why.
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This is yet another example of a "fundamentally non-serious" selection.

Posted by: Crusader at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (TN0g+)

162 Charlatans become Democrats for the same reason Willie Sutton robbed banks.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:47 PM (oZ51P)
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In conservative districts, they also become Republicans.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (Fi81e)

163 The reports are now that the dead boy died from a ... gunshot wound.

See my comment above. Trust the Blade. He knows things. Always trust The Blade.

Posted by: Elric The Blade

Makes me think my first inclination was right - witness.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (0U5gm)

164 159 4) They let some low-life drug addict live there as part of some kind of mortgage grift and the guy od'd?

They thought the cops said he was shot?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (sKqQm)

=====

So, bad drug deal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (UTxF6)

165 The judge who temporarily halted the merger Araceli Martinez is a Biden appointment who worked at ACLU and Legal Aid. Oh, and she was born in Mexico.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (sMkB+)

166 Conan! What is best in life?

To crush your tenants, see them on the front page, and hear the lamentations of my woman's political career!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (bFu5X)

167 Interesting so Mr. Harris/Pressley was a convicted drug offender who spent 10 years in jail.. The plot thickens

And how he's running a millions dollar real estate business.

Amazing how quickly your life can turn around...if you marry a Dem politician.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (sKqQm)

168 165 The judge who temporarily halted the merger Araceli Martinez is a Biden appointment who worked at ACLU and Legal Aid. Oh, and she was born in Mexico.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (sMkB+)

Don't we have any American Judges ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (rijjI)

169
Wait, they have a rental property? They're landlords?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (BbMh4)

170 161 Black Democrats wonder why they get a bad reputation. This is why.
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This is yet another example of a "fundamentally non-serious" selection.

Posted by: Crusader at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (TN0g+)

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There was a story a few weeks ago about Black Southern Democrat civic leaders getting real mad at the Democrat Party because they feel like they're being left behind.

Losing at least a third of their congressmen over the next couple of years because of Callais mandating the end of racial gerrymanders will probably just make that problem better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (UTxF6)

171 "148 developer planning a massive data center complex, Imperial Valley Computer Manufacturing, is currently suing for access to 260 million gallons of Colorado River water a year (roughly 750,000 gallons a day).------

And that's with a closed loop cooling system.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 01:45 PM (KC5Lt) "

that's just make-up water for the cooling towers? wow.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 01:50 PM (VyBeY)

172 >>>the actual scale of the theft goes beyond mere mind-boggling. it's insane. un-effing-believable.

and that still probably understates the magnitude.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez
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April 14, dead line, be on time, we're watching you.
_IRS, and don't think about abbreviating it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 01:50 PM (826kS)

173
Bypass
Legitimate
Morticians

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:50 PM (oZ51P)

174 So apparently Two-tier Keir Starmer left the PM position last week? And his evil commie minion took over? I guess US media was too busy with kicky-ball to notice.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:50 PM (diia5)

175 It was a mostly peaceful shooting.
Posted by: Local media at July 20, 2026 01:47 PM

What shooting?

Posted by: The MSM at July 20, 2026 01:50 PM (bFu5X)

176 Federal budget was under $2T in 1999.

You could get it back to pretty close to that now and most people wouldn't notice a difference

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:50 PM (sKqQm)

177 These clowns are not smart enough to pull off a two-billion-dollar fraud. CoJo Real Estate is probably just a DEI front to justify giving them the bid. They're gonna net $300K and waste it on scratch offs.

Posted by: Somali Daycare Alliance at July 20, 2026 01:51 PM (wGerL)

178 169, LOL, H7!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 20, 2026 01:51 PM (VyBeY)

179 Dead men tell no tales doncha know.

Posted by: BOSTON PD (D) at July 20, 2026 01:52 PM (ehY6c)

180 In conservative districts, they also become Republicans.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:48 PM (Fi81e)

I could have said "politicians" but then it would become commentary

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:52 PM (oZ51P)

181 Wait, they have a rental property? They're landlords?

Considering the hate for landlords on reddit this makes we want to create an account and remind the people their how their favorite squad member earns her $$$

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:52 PM (sKqQm)

182
Burnham wants the Britain of 1976.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 01:52 PM (BbMh4)

183 as others I am sure have mentioned....how is it not her property too?

Posted by: zigggggy at July 20, 2026 01:52 PM (EDeJ/)

184 Her husband claimed this as a business address and also it was divided into apartments. Total scammers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 01:52 PM (n5tGW)

185 Imperial Valley Computer Manufacturing, is currently suing for access to 260 million gallons of Colorado River water a year (roughly 750,000 gallons a day).
_-_
A small price to pay for more nodes in the Control Grid. Build your prison, slaves!

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 20, 2026 01:52 PM (JWDez)

186 @148 polynikes, is there that much water left in the Colorado River?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (sMkB+)

187 Burnham wants the Britain of 1976

More like 1066. Well, without the Christianity.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (sKqQm)

188 Don't we have any American Judges ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (rijjI)

----------------

"I'm your huckleberry!"

/US District Clown Judge Bozoberg

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (6jTT/)

189 Crackhead ghosts are the ones who steal your socks from the dryer, and your 3- and 5/8ths sockets.

They don't really know how they plan to make money off them, but they're certain they can, somehow, buy some more ghost-rocks this way.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (BI5O2)

190 They let some low-life drug addict live there as part of some kind of mortgage grift and the guy od'd?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 01:46 PM (UTxF6)

od'd on lead

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (oZ51P)

191 179 Dead men tell no tales doncha know.
Posted by: BOSTON PD (D) at July 20, 2026 01:52 PM (ehY6c)

Don't you know it.
--Obama's personal chef

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (N39Ws)

192 The judge who temporarily halted the merger Araceli Martinez is a Biden appointment who worked at ACLU and Legal Aid. Oh, and she was born in Mexico.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (sMkB+)

Don't we have any American Judges ?
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In Europe, if you want to know why rapists and all the muzzie scum keep getting kid-glove treatment:
Every country but 1, the majority of judges are women.

Woman should not be judges.
Their emotional empathy makes a mockery of justice and punishes the victims twice.

That's why plank 4 of the Restore America Agenda is to defund the judiciary.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (3cUTc)

193 Colorado doesn’t have the water to sustain current population.

We are is a major drought.

Anyone demanding millions of gallons of water can GFY.

Seriously, we’re full, and need people to leave ( not that any politician here would support that).

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (4KUe5)

194 is there that much water left in the Colorado River?
_-_
Overallocated and coming into some dry years.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 20, 2026 01:54 PM (JWDez)

195 190 They let some low-life drug addict live there as part of some kind of mortgage grift and the guy od'd?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 01:46 PM (UTxF6)

od'd on lead
Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (oZ51P

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Hardcore.

Posted by: TJM's phone at July 20, 2026 01:54 PM (UTxF6)

196 I thought the left, and especially The Squad, hated landlords and was pushing for "extra" properties to be expropriated. How strange that Pressley owns *5* rental properties. Very strange indeed.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 20, 2026 01:54 PM (lFFaq)

197
"Conan, what is best in life"

Conan: That gag where I put moving lips over a still and pretend I'm interviewing somebody?

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:54 PM (Fi81e)

198 I'd bet this could all be sorted out with a beer summit.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 01:55 PM (sYM3s)

199 Apparently, bald is not beautiful.

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2026 01:55 PM (UjdFS)

200 Considering the hate for landlords on reddit this makes we want to create an account and remind the people their how their favorite squad member earns her $$$

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:52 PM (sKqQm)

Then you quickly realize they don't give an everloving fuck. They're just getting a "piece" of what everyone else does. Marxists are weird.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:55 PM (oZ51P)

201 Just because socialism fails 100% of the time doesn’t mean it can’t work.

Posted by: DSA at July 20, 2026 01:55 PM (GEtfQ)

202 The appearance of a conflict of interest as a red line - long the sensible cultural/political standard, if not strictly the legal one - has simply vanished.

And it's not limited to preposterously stupid and corrupt black Dem congresscritters. And it's now reached the point where it engages the most serious matters of state.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 20, 2026 01:55 PM (U/Byj)

203 Not to mention that we need that warp PUT OUT WILDFIRES that are raging around the state.

I’ll take forests over “computer.”

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 01:55 PM (4KUe5)

204 In Europe, if you want to know why rapists and all the muzzie scum keep getting kid-glove treatment:
Every country but 1, the majority of judges are women.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (3cUTc)
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Also, in some cases, the cops get a turn with the girls.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:55 PM (Fi81e)

205 Just because socialism fails 100% of the time doesn’t mean it can’t work.
Posted by: DSA at July 20, 2026 01:55 PM (GEtfQ)

I'm still waiting for Sid to tell me where the socialist system provides great healthcare for all.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (2YhKe)

206 There was a story a few weeks ago about Black Southern Democrat civic leaders getting real mad at the Democrat Party because they feel like they're being left behind.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 20, 2026 01:49 PM (UTxF6)
______

Welcome to the party, pal. These "leaders" are only just now realizing they're getting fucked in the ass? Democraps have been taking black voters for granted for at least 40 years now, and have been openly hostile to normal black voters for at least 20.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (iFTx/)

207 New footage shows anti-ICE activist set fire outside immigration court in NYC.

https://tinyurl.com/4ru7488b

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (ndZc7)

208 the actual scale of the theft goes beyond mere mind-boggling. it's insane. un-effing-believable.
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This is necessary, these thieves must be rewarded for their skin color, so the AWFLs can feel good they are "standing against racism."

They'll vote to triple that theft if the option is to vote for even the mildest of moderate Republicans.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (3cUTc)

209
It's just a body, not a body body.

Honestly!

Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (rE7Gw)

210 99 But he makes such nice coffee, tho...

@TPostMillennial 4m
BREAKING UPDATE: Andrew Arrabaca ID'd as suspect arrested for setting fire outside NYC federal building
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 01:38 PM (diia5)

Thanks, weft cut-loop.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (6wpGE)

211 I thought the left, and especially The Squad, hated landlords and was pushing for "extra" properties to be expropriated. How strange that Pressley owns *5* rental properties. Very strange indeed.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 20, 2026 01:54 PM (lFFaq)
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It's very easy to get confused by a lefty if you believe they meant what they said.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (Fi81e)

212 We are is a major drought.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 01:53 PM (4KUe5)

Lizzy doing her best Amos and Andy

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (oZ51P)

213
I'm still waiting for Sid to tell me where the socialist system provides great healthcare for all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (2YhKe)

We got your healthcare right here

Posted by: Canadian MAID at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (rijjI)

214 DSA wants it to fail.
These people openly say they hate America and want to destroy it.
Failure is a feature not a bug. Pretending to care and want equality blah blah blah is for the useful udiots.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (4KUe5)

215 Because they swore up and down that Owebamacare was the FIX to our healthcare 'problems.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (2YhKe)

216 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (2YhKe)

MAID is just great for depressed people/ s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (D+BhG)

217 I am pretty sure that after the consequences of that Aspen Acres fire are more fully known, there will be a push to get some people out of Colorado by emptying places in which the insurance companies no longer have an interest - and yet the population will still grow with the cities.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (JWDez)

218 iirc, the Clintons were known for delivering the goods for those that bribed them. That now seems true for most of the Democrat Party (and half the Republicans?). Give a half million, get back a billion or more. Or just be related to the one in power ...or be a fellow Muslim.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (vbXSk)

219 We just want to make clear that whatever happened to our family member, he WAS NOT involved in a sexual relationship with Ayanna Pressley. I mean, come on, man!

Posted by: Family of the Deceased at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (0e5Te)

220 It's just a body, not a body body.

Honestly!

Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (rE7Gw)
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Well, The View has been heard from...

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (Fi81e)

221 why do negro women shave their heads?

Posted by: Don Black at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (ZxPkt)

222 Heh, can’t type on my phone!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 01:58 PM (4KUe5)

223 Is this guy trying to be Stringer Bell?
Posted by: PabloD at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (ICmKm)

Stringer was an idiot and weakling who thought he was smart because he was going to community college. Dressed well, though.

---------------

He really pulled off that American gangster hood talk -- while pretending to be an MBA when in "professional" environments and conversations.

We were stunned that Idris Elba was British when we started watching the TV Series "Luther" -- which was pretty good.

It's amazing how those British actors can pull off various American accents ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 01:58 PM (6jTT/)

224 It's very easy to get confused by a lefty if you believe they meant what they said.

My favorite moment on lefty forums this year was a few weeks ago reading about how "b*tchs lie about everything including rape. Especially the Jew b*tches"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:58 PM (sKqQm)

225
It is abundantly clear that the black community is not electing their best to public office.

Unless it is, and that is another horror story.

Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at July 20, 2026 01:58 PM (rE7Gw)

226 why do negro women shave their heads?

Posted by: Don Black at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (ZxPkt)

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They secretly want to be dicks?

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 01:59 PM (6jTT/)

227 Isn't it weird that every single thing we say about the DSA applies to all Democrat politicians

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:59 PM (oZ51P)

228 We just want to make clear that whatever happened to our family member, he WAS NOT involved in a sexual relationship with Ayanna Pressley. I mean, come on, man!

Dude she's as smooth as a dolphin.

Well...on her head.

Posted by: Some perv at July 20, 2026 01:59 PM (sKqQm)

229 If in the year 2026 you are a landlord in a Blue city/state shithole, well, sorry but you brought this on yourself. It was obvious to anyone going back at least 5 years what was happening and where the end game would lead. We told you repeatedly we would confiscate your property eventually. You chose not to believe us. You chose poorly.

Posted by: DSA at July 20, 2026 01:59 PM (GEtfQ)

230 Don Black, it’s Alopecia (however it’s spelled).

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 01:59 PM (4KUe5)

231
My favorite moment on lefty forums this year was a few weeks ago reading about how "b*tchs lie about everything including rape. Especially the Jew b*tches"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 01:58 PM (sKqQm)

So, we don't 'believe all women' anymore?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:59 PM (2YhKe)

232 still waiting for Sid to tell me where the socialist system provides great healthcare for all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (2YhKe)

2 year wait lists to see a doctor is awesome.

Posted by: UK Health Care at July 20, 2026 02:00 PM (GEtfQ)

233 New footage shows anti-ICE activist set fire outside immigration court in NYC.

https://tinyurl.com/4ru7488b
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:56 PM (ndZc7)

Looks like the perp could be either Reddy Kilowatt, or the Jack-in-the-Box clown.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 02:00 PM (1z8ji)

234 Now we got a hostage and SWAT situation in Chicago.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 02:00 PM (2GVsD)

235 why do negro women shave their heads?

Posted by: Don Black at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (ZxPkt)

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They secretly want to be dicks?
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 01:59 PM (6jTT/)

Ah....that brings me back to my youth.......

"If you wore a skin cap, you'd be a dick."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:01 PM (2YhKe)

236 >>>why do negro women shave their heads?

Posted by: Don Black

>WNBA free agency? Is this a trick question?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 02:01 PM (sYM3s)

237 Then you quickly realize they don't give an everloving fuck. They're just getting a "piece" of what everyone else does. Marxists are weird.
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The purpose of the destruction into a low-trust society is so that everyone then assumes everyone else is stealing.
So stealing is not wrong.

Theft is required under marxism.

Arguing morals with the left is like trying to lecture a stray dog is should not kill and eat your calf.
No.
Shoot them and go on about your chores.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 02:01 PM (3cUTc)

238 Isn't it weird that every single thing we say about the DSA applies to all Democrat politicians

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:59 PM (oZ51P)
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The DSA is mainly divided from the Democratic Party by people who said the quiet part out loud enough that they appear different.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:01 PM (Fi81e)

239 Reddy Killowatt the Jack-in-the-Box killer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 02:01 PM (2GVsD)

240
>WNBA free agency? Is this a trick question?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 02:01 PM (sYM3s)

They have been known to stop the game for an unfortunate wig situation.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:01 PM (2YhKe)

241 117 Speaking of guns, Beretta is leaving Maryland.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 01:41 PM (2GVsD)

I thought they left already.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 02:01 PM (4g5V+)

242 How do wigs stick to your head nowadays anyway? Is it something you put on like a wool cap or is it glued on your head?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (sKqQm)

243 Don Black, it’s Alopecia (however it’s spelled).

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 01:59 PM (4KUe5)

Hang on, I thought it was Ayanna

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (oZ51P)

244
No one wants to live in a murder house.

But, howzabout a crack head ODing in a house and stinking it up with his death poop.

Price goes up or price goes down?

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (iJfKG)

245 I really hope he tries personally, but commie scum never does the dirty work.

@LeadingReport 9m
NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on potentially arresting Israeli PM Netanyahu.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (diia5)

246 Now we got a hostage and SWAT situation in Chicago.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 02:00 PM (2GVsD)

Can't be. There's no crime in Chitcago.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (2YhKe)

247 why do negro women shave their heads?
Posted by: Don Black at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (ZxPkt)
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Very common. But they usually wear wigs. The wig industry catering to black women is billions of dollars. There are many black women out there who find it easier just to shave their heads and wear glamorous wigs.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (iFTx/)

248 Alopecia Presson is her sister.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (2GVsD)

249 Old school Dems just wanted to steal. We want to steal and put you in concentration camps. There is a difference.

Posted by: DSA at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (GEtfQ)

250 Just so people know how this works.
Govt deeds property to developer.
Dev builds project for "$600 million".
About 10% of that cost is developers fees, they pay themselves $60 million.
Govt leases building for 40 years based on total development costs, plus say 7% profit.
Because it is a govt lease with taxing authority, the developer can get a near 100% commercial loan.

So development group gets $60 million to develop, claims $600 million in costs *really probably $500 million*, gets rent payments to pay 100% mortgage plus additional funds, all for little outlay of investment. And owns the property at the end.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 02:03 PM (n5tGW)

251 Was the body missing it's scalp ? Asking for a friend

Posted by: Ayanna Baldy Pressme at July 20, 2026 02:03 PM (NtVYv)

252 I never heard of a state leasing a courthouse from a private party before.

Financing the construction costs of a courthouse, and THEN leasing the courthouse back?

This deal stings on ice.

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 02:03 PM (RCjYY)

253 @TPostMillennial 4m
BREAKING UPDATE: Andrew Arrabaca ID'd as suspect arrested for setting fire outside NYC federal building
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I like how the first headline just said something like "person arrested for incendiary device outside federal building"

And not "tried to firebomb an ICE facility."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 02:04 PM (3cUTc)

254 247 why do negro women shave their heads?
Posted by: Don Black at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (ZxPkt)
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Very common. But they usually wear wigs. The wig industry catering to black women is billions of dollars. There are many black women out there who find it easier just to shave their heads and wear glamorous wigs.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM
++++++
Sounds like an upcoming subject for Piper!

Posted by: Person clueless about wigs at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (2Ez/1)

255 Just stash them in your closet.

Posted by: Zombie ira Einhorn at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (kj0cq)

256
The only bald woman that looked any good was the chick in the first Star Trek movie.

She was so fine, even bald couldn't ruin her.

The exception not the rule..the rest of you bald femmes.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (iJfKG)

257 134 Here's the update that the guy was killed by a gunshot. He's also a criminal himself.

https://tinyurl.com/3ectayxn
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 01:44 PM (iFTx/)

Thanks, Elric.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (6wpGE)

258 @LeadingReport 9m
NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on potentially arresting Israeli PM Netanyahu.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (diia5)

He's in charge of the NYPD Commissioned. The NYPD doesn't have any NYC charges against him to arrest him and there's no outstanding federal warrant for him where they would detain him for the federalis. You can't use a city cop to arrest a guy for alleged "crimes against humanity."

I'm quite sure there isn't an NYPD officer that is willing to take part in this, unless their pension is threatened, that is.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (2YhKe)

259 How do wigs stick to your head nowadays anyway? Is it something you put on like a wool cap or is it glued on your head?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (sKqQm)
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Ghost Bond, wtf. Glue or adhesive. If you have some of your real hair left, you can get a wig with a stretch cap and put that over your head.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (iFTx/)

260 Andy Arabacca has 2 left hands, uses both... at the same time.

Posted by: Valledicktorian at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (ehY6c)

261
She was so fine, even bald couldn't ruin her.

The exception not the rule..the rest of you bald femmes.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (iJfKG)

Wife lost all her hair during chemo.

I still found her beautiful.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (2YhKe)

262 We are is a major drought.

Posted by: Lizzy

We need to get Lizzie Warren out here to do a rain dance.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (ndZc7)

263 Good morn...er never mind, ace.

Posted by: creeper at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (80oeU)

264 never heard of a state leasing a courthouse from a private party before.

Financing the construction costs of a courthouse, and THEN leasing the courthouse back?

This deal stings on ice.
Posted by: mnw

This happens with highways in reverse. State will build an expressway. Then leases it to some corporation, usually European which charges tolls and keeps the revenue.

It’s shady as fuck both ways.

Posted by: Corruption Everywhere at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (GEtfQ)

265 iirc, the Clintons were known for delivering the goods for those that bribed them. That now seems true for most of the Democrat Party (and half the Republicans?). Give a half million, get back a billion or more. Or just be related to the one in power ...or be a fellow Muslim.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 20, 2026 01:57 PM (vbXSk)

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Watched a good Judicial Watch documentary last night about the TWA Flight 800 tragedy now 30 years ago entitled "BREAKING: FBI Documents Raise Questions about TWA Flight 800 Crash!"

It was obvious to anyone paying attention then that it was taken out by a missile; the only question was: Was it terrorism or accidental friendly fire from a US Naval Vessel?

Of course, running for reelection, the despicable Clintons and their Deep State masters made sure to have it covered up -- just like with Hillary and Benghazi:

youtube.com/watch?v=5eYVkstnHwY

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (6jTT/)

266 Old school Dems just wanted to steal. We want to steal and put you in concentration camps. There is a difference.

Posted by: DSA at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (GEtfQ)

Boy, do I have some news for you.

Posted by: Old School Dems at July 20, 2026 02:07 PM (oZ51P)

267 Waiting for Presley's husband to slap someone, like Will Smith smacking Chris Rock at the Oscars

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 02:07 PM (sMkB+)

268 How do wigs stick to your head nowadays anyway? Is it something you put on like a wool cap or is it glued on your head?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (sKqQm)

I sawed this BITCH in half!!!!

Posted by: Phil Swift for Flex Seal at July 20, 2026 02:07 PM (2YhKe)

269 How do wigs stick to your head nowadays anyway? Is it something you put on like a wool cap or is it glued on your head?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (sKqQm)
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Velcro.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:07 PM (Fi81e)

270 Wife lost all her hair during chemo.

I still found her beautiful.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (2YhKe)
___

You are such a sweetheart.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:07 PM (x7Vzy)

271 She was so fine, even bald couldn't ruin her.

The exception not the rule..the rest of you bald femmes.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (iJfKG)

Wife lost all her hair during chemo.

I still found her beautiful.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (2YhKe)

As well you should, you Fool for Love you!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (iJfKG)

272 Sounds like an upcoming subject for Piper!
Posted by: Person clueless about wigs at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (2Ez/1)

Time to consult the Professor:

https://youtu.be/5UX5_IAhERM

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (1z8ji)

273 Waiting for Presley's husband to slap someone, like Will Smith smacking Chris Rock at the Oscars
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 02:07 PM (sMkB+)

He's already smacked the phone out of someone's hand.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (2YhKe)

274 The good news is that the spiking cancer rates associated with Data Centers will likely reduce the population, lessening the current demand for water and electricity among the residents.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (uSpHL)

275 creeper!!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (x7Vzy)

276 I worked for a company where there were investigations, fines, and significant tax penalties for a CEO who got millions from buildings, art works, and a yacht that he "leased" to the company.

Apparently, that's all legal now?

Posted by: Wally at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (0e5Te)

277 I never heard of a state leasing a courthouse from a private party before.

It happens all the time. It's quite the grift.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (n5tGW)

278
You are such a sweetheart.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:07 PM (x7Vzy)

*hugs*

And I told her so often.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (2YhKe)

279 NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on potentially arresting Israeli PM Netanyahu.

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And I'm gonna punch out Pete Hegseth.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (ndZc7)

280 worked for a company where there were investigations, fines, and significant tax penalties for a CEO who got millions from buildings, art works, and a yacht that he "leased" to the company.

Apparently, that's all legal now?
Posted by: Wally at July 20, 2026 02:08 PM (0e5Te)

They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 20, 2026 02:09 PM (GEtfQ)

281 Negro women.
Bald heads.
Wig attachment.

The things I learn here.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2026 02:10 PM (2Ez/1)

282 never heard of a state leasing a courthouse from a private party before.

Financing the construction costs of a courthouse, and THEN leasing the courthouse back?

This deal stings on ice.
Posted by: mnw
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These kind of "public-private partnerships" aren't unusual, and if structured correctly can be a benefit to taxpayers. Because usually it means the city doesn't have to pay a big up-front cost, gets property tax from the developer, and usually also a lease fee for the land.

But this deal is clearly not a good deal for the taxpayer. It's a scam.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:10 PM (iFTx/)

283 lace wig machines for sale

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 02:10 PM (2GVsD)

284 ?How do wigs stick to your head nowadays anyway? Is it something you put on like a wool cap or is it glued on your head?

Posted by: 18-1

Poligrip denture adhesive maybe

Posted by: Don Black at July 20, 2026 02:10 PM (ZxPkt)

285

1. Start a company

2. Rent all your shit to said company

3. ????

4. PROFIT!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:10 PM (2YhKe)

286 Harris husband's company has a bunch of gobbledegook about diversifying the pipeline of business strategy. Built to grift from the government while sounding like Kamala

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 02:11 PM (sMkB+)

287 You’re a good husband, sponge.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 20, 2026 02:11 PM (W2Pud)

288 3. ????

Get elected

Posted by: Halfhand at July 20, 2026 02:11 PM (Ysav4)

289 You’re a good husband, sponge.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 20, 2026 02:11 PM (W2Pud)

I give it a valiant effort.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:11 PM (2YhKe)

290 It's the PUBLIC'S courthouse. It cannot be leased from someone else.
The stupid it burns.

Posted by: torabora at July 20, 2026 02:11 PM (kj0cq)

291
Get elected
Posted by: Halfhand at July 20, 2026 02:11 PM (Ysav4)

Valid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:11 PM (2YhKe)

292 I worked for a company where there were investigations, fines, and significant tax penalties for a CEO who got millions from buildings, art works, and a yacht that he "leased" to the company.

Apparently, that's all legal now?

Posted by: Wally

Only if you are an elected democrat. They can also legally trade on inside information, despite the fact that a law has been passed twice to outlaw it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 20, 2026 02:12 PM (0U5gm)

293 Ted's losing the plot:
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Ted Cruz @tedcruz ·
1m
We are witnessing the rapid takeover of the Democrat Party by “Democratic Socialists.”

I want to be clear: These are open communists.

Sadly, the Democrat leadership is not fighting back; they have adopted the tactic of feeding the alligator in hopes it bites them last. #Verdict

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:12 PM (Fi81e)

294 She's BALD!!!

Posted by: George Costanza at July 20, 2026 02:13 PM (4opPK)

295 lace wig machines for sale
Posted by: Anna Puma
......

with complimentary pair of Ugg Boots

Posted by: wth at July 20, 2026 02:13 PM (UjdFS)

296 No one wants to live in a murder house.

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"Or a former meth lab, especially if you don't disclose it prior to the sale."

-- obligatory Jesse Pinkman (Breaking Bad reference)

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 02:13 PM (6jTT/)

297 I'm sure Netanyahu has some dangerous pipe-hitting Hebraic MFers in his security detail, if Mayor Mamdanny wants to try anything

Posted by: Don Black at July 20, 2026 02:13 PM (ZxPkt)

298 That's not even the worst part. The worst part is that Massachusetts won't even own the courthouse they're giving this guy $600 million for -- instead, they've signed a 40 year lease to rent the building from him, bringing the total value of this grift to two fucking billion fucking dollars.

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How is the Federal DoJ Public Corruption office not all over this?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 20, 2026 02:13 PM (DbmIv)

299 Read that the Scot's are going to open their North Sea area to drilling. How much is Britain going to dun them?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 02:13 PM (826kS)

300 @265 the FBI alleged something caused a spark in the fuel tank. Don't know what caused the spark. Hasn't happened before or since.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 02:13 PM (sMkB+)

301 It's the PUBLIC'S courthouse. It cannot be leased from someone else.

Posted by: torabora at July 20, 2026 02:11 PM (kj0cq)
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Haha! Good one!

Posted by: The Democratic Party at July 20, 2026 02:13 PM (Fi81e)

302 Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (6jTT/)

I watched that yesterday as well. It had some good stuff in it. It's obvious that TWA 800 was not some wiring issue simply from the fact that the FBI came in immediately and took over the investigation.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 02:14 PM (3Ope8)

303 ?How do wigs stick to your head nowadays anyway? Is it something you put on like a wool cap or is it glued on your head?
Posted by: 18-1

Nowadays? Gorilla Glue.

Posted by: Speller at July 20, 2026 02:15 PM (pSotA)

304 Is every democrat colored gal in office a criminal?

Name one who hasn't been stealing, raping, grifting, embezzling, assaulting, etc, etc.

Posted by: In Surround Sound Stereotypes at July 20, 2026 02:15 PM (e2lsi)

305
Ugh.

I've got a terrible cold today.

Have one of you morons been fooling around in your Gain of Function Lab lately?

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 02:15 PM (iJfKG)

306 Re Flight 800
The evening of 911 that Stephanopoulos prick was being interviewed and he was ticking off a list of prior terrorist attacks and he included Flight 800 without missing a beat.

Posted by: torabora at July 20, 2026 02:15 PM (kj0cq)

307 What reason would the FBI have to lie?

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 02:15 PM (oZ51P)

308 How do wigs stick to your head nowadays anyway? Is it something you put on like a wool cap or is it glued on your head?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM

Definitely not glue. Witness the "tumbleweave" phenomenon in many police bodycam videos.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 02:15 PM (bFu5X)

309 Bibi (ex-special forces) and Mamdani (commie theater kid) in the Octagon!

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 02:15 PM (GD0B3)

310 All the lease scam…

Jose has a lawn care business. Juan, his cousin, has a lawn tool business. Juan leases Jose his tools. Juan depreciates the value of the tools and Jose pays him the exact amount of the depreciation so that Juan has $0 income. Juan pays no taxes. Jose gets to write off the cost of the tools he’s leasing.

Oh in reality there are no tools leased. Jose uses a 12 year old lawnmower. But it’s a hell of a nice business deduction created out of thin air.

Posted by: 3rd World America at July 20, 2026 02:16 PM (GEtfQ)

311 Is every democrat colored gal in office a criminal?

Name one who hasn't been stealing, raping, grifting, embezzling, assaulting, etc, etc.
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The polite term is "fundamentally non-serious" selection.

Posted by: Crusader at July 20, 2026 02:16 PM (TN0g+)

312 225

To be fair, Squad member Cora Bush (D-MO) DID get beat in a DEM primary in 2024, by a respected AA lawyer & former prosecutor, Wesley Burns (D-MO).

However that district had (may still have) a significant white minority presence.

So, the District that elected a Squd member corrected its own mistake. The only district to dump a Squad incumbent.

Bush is running again this year, once again against Burns, but most observers think Bush's chances are poor. If she couldn't beat Burns when she was the incumbent, she's unlikely to do so now that HE'S the incumbent.

Bush criticized Burns for accepting AIPAC support last time, IIRC.

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (RCjYY)

313 How is the Federal DoJ Public Corruption office not all over this?

How is it the taxpayers haven't burned the corrupt govt politicians signing this deal like a witch in Salem?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (n5tGW)

314 All you praying Horde people, this morning we got an unexpected diagnosis of a large tumor in the sigmoid colon for my husband.
That's all we know right now. Waiting for CT appt and they did a biopsy during the colonoscopy.

Please pray for us.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (4VH0B)

315 Wife was significantly pissed off when ugly leftist twats were shaving their heads to make themselves 'ugly' so conservative men wouldn't find them attractive after Trump got elected.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (2YhKe)

316 1st Lt. Tyler James Feehan, 25, of Ewa Beach, Hawaii.

Pvt. Isabella Gonzales, 19, of Carrollton, Texas.

So young.

RIP, Soldiers.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (x7Vzy)

317 84 Only a politician (or spouse thereof) would own a million dollar property and not live there… these people are unbelievable
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 01:34 PM (TCUO6)
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Must be an investment property being used as a tax shelter or something...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 01:35 PM (FZ29D)

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They are just following the method from the "make a million with no money down real estate method" book they saw for sale on late night TV.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (DbmIv)

318 Phsssssssssssssssssssssh !!!!!!!!!!

What was that? Somebody step on a duck ?????

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at July 20, 2026 02:18 PM (IwwZQ)

319
Please pray for us.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (4VH0B)

Done

Posted by: Canadian MAID at July 20, 2026 02:18 PM (rijjI)

320 Prayers up, TT.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:18 PM (x7Vzy)

321 [O/T -- Update on the Arizona Medicaid Fraud Scam:]

Up to 2,000 Native Americans are feared dead or missing

The treatment centers would come into the are with white vans. They would feed people fentanyl pills, drugs and alcohol to get them into the vans

They would bring them to treatment centers and then lock them in rooms

...

There were also reports of shootings of people who tried to leave, bodies were buried in unmarked graves. They stole up to $12 billion dollars with fraudulent claims

The reason they would lock these people in houses and fake treatment centers and feed them drugs was because the longer they could keep the patient, the longer they could bill Medicaid

https://tinyurl.com/2eucx3mw

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 02:18 PM (6jTT/)

322 294 She's BALD!!!
Posted by: George Costanza at July 20, 2026 02:13 PM
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LOL.

https://youtu.be/fURmOlSkzUw

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld clip at July 20, 2026 02:18 PM (2Ez/1)

323 Used to be a bald black woman that posted here I think name baldilocks.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 20, 2026 02:18 PM (wGerL)

324 The extra-infuriating part is that Pressly's husband is just on the company's board as a figurehead, so it counts as a "minority-owned business" and as such gets automatic no-bed government contracts.

This race-based scam is all over the country, but especially in blue states like Massachussetts and California, where it is n de facto standard practuce for any white-owed construction company (i.e. most of them) to hire some random minority t pose as their CEO or board member, simply so the company can get government contacts as a certified "minority-owned business." Everyone knows this happens, everyone knows it s ascam, and everyone also knows it unconstitutional to award bids based on race is unconstituional -- but it just keeps happening anyway. Because grift is how Blue States work.

Posted by: zombie at July 20, 2026 02:19 PM (Av6i5)

325 1st Lt. Tyler James Feehan, 25, of Ewa Beach, Hawaii.

Pvt. Isabella Gonzales, 19, of Carrollton, Texas.

So young.

RIP, Soldiers.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (x7Vzy)

May The Lord welcome them with open arms.

I work in Carrollton, Texas. Used to live in an apartment there years ago.

Poor kid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:19 PM (2YhKe)

326 Wife was significantly pissed off when ugly leftist twats were shaving their heads to make themselves 'ugly' so conservative men wouldn't find them attractive after Trump got elected.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM

Shaving their heads? Hell, all they had to do was open their mouths.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 02:19 PM (bFu5X)

327 I'd imagine that owning a couple homes would afford one in a position of authority, like Congress, to avoid all sorts of legal entanglements. Especially if the homes are in different states.

From a tax write off standpoint, it'd be pretty sweet. I own two and get to take both mortgage interest as deductions. I think there's a limit to the 2nd home, but we've never hit it. Politicos probably don't have to worry about details like that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 02:19 PM (jehhT)

328 Posted by: 3rd World America at July 20, 2026 02:16 PM (GEtfQ)

......

Also, Jose and Juan aren't even citizens and get paid off the books.

If they are caught for failing to pay their taxes, the government offers them free flights back to Mexico, where they have already remitted 90% of their earnings.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 02:19 PM (uSpHL)

329
The reason they would lock these people in houses and fake treatment centers and feed them drugs was because the longer they could keep the patient, the longer they could bill Medicaid

https://tinyurl.com/2eucx3mw
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 02:18 PM (6jTT/)

OMG... Unbelievable

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 02:19 PM (rijjI)

330 Oh TecumsehTea, I am praying.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 02:20 PM (oZ51P)

331 That's all we know right now. Waiting for CT appt and they did a biopsy during the colonoscopy.

Please pray for us.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (4VH0B)

Ooof.......Will do. Praying for a positive result and a simple as possible resolution.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:20 PM (2YhKe)

332 We are both in shock. I don't know what to think right now. Thank you for praying.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 20, 2026 02:21 PM (4VH0B)

333 Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (6jTT/)

I watched that yesterday as well. It had some good stuff in it. It's obvious that TWA 800 was not some wiring issue simply from the fact that the FBI came in immediately and took over the investigation.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 02:14 PM (3Ope

_______

It was also suspicious how the investigation for a long time had the "bomb or missile" theory as plausible, and then -- all of a sudden -- just decided based on nothing new that it wasn't that at all.

I'm fairly sure it was a missile, although it could have been a mistake or friendly fire from that nearby Navy ship.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 02:21 PM (iFTx/)

334 NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on potentially arresting Israeli PM Netanyahu.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (diia5)

He's in charge of the NYPD Commissioned. The NYPD doesn't have any NYC charges against him to arrest him and there's no outstanding federal warrant for him where they would detain him for the federalis. You can't use a city cop to arrest a guy for alleged "crimes against humanity."

I'm quite sure there isn't an NYPD officer that is willing to take part in this, unless their pension is threatened, that is.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:05 PM (2YhKe)

Yeah. You go ahead and try that.

Posted by: Department of State at July 20, 2026 02:21 PM (4g5V+)

335 race-based scam is all over the country, but especially in blue states like Massachussetts and California, where it is n de facto standard practuce for any white-owed construction company (i.e. most of them) to hire some random minority t pose as their CEO or board member, simply so the company can get government contacts as a certified "minority-owned business." Everyone knows this happens, everyone knows it s ascam, and everyone also knows it unconstitutional to award bids based on race is unconstituional -- but it just keeps happening anyway. Because grift is how Blue States work.
Posted by: zombie at July 20, 2026 02:19 PM (Av6i5)

It’s federal too. Every dude who owns a construction or plumbing company registers it in his wife’s name. Then it’s woman owned and eligible for cheap SBA loans (which are seldom paid back) and govt contracts.

It’s all one giant scam.

Posted by: 3rd World America at July 20, 2026 02:22 PM (GEtfQ)

336 334 NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on potentially arresting Israeli PM Netanyahu.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 02:02 PM (diia5)

If he tries that it's more likely he will be arrested...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 02:22 PM (rijjI)

337
If he tries that it's more likely he will be arrested...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 02:22 PM (rijjI)

I'm getting to the point where I want Bibi to fly directly to NYC and drive straight to Gracie Mansion.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:23 PM (2YhKe)

338 "reintegrating into regular society" means finding a better way to rob and steal.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 20, 2026 02:23 PM (QaH55)

339 "reintegrating into regular society" means finding a better way to rob and steal.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 20, 2026 02:23 PM (QaH55)

"Its fun to do bad things...."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:24 PM (2YhKe)

340 Democraps have been taking black voters for granted for at least 40 years now, and have been openly hostile to normal black voters for at least 20.

Posted by: Elric The Blade
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~63 years

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 02:24 PM (826kS)

341 Iran supposedly is threatening to invade Kuwait and take over the US bases there (Ali Al Salem and Arifjan).

Read this on X somewhere by some dude that loves him some IRGC.

Good luck with that, though I'm taking this "news" with a dump truck load of salt.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:24 PM (x7Vzy)

342 Have I said “Fuck cancer” lately?

Well, there, I say it again. Fuck cancer.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 02:24 PM (4g5V+)

343 NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on causing an international incident, to be known as "an embarrassment for Trump".

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:25 PM (Fi81e)

344 Wife was significantly pissed off when ugly leftist twats were shaving their heads to make themselves 'ugly' so conservative men wouldn't find them attractive after Trump got elected.

-
No half measures! Take the entire head!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 02:25 PM (ndZc7)

345 Arizona Cactus Green is people!

Posted by: Charlton Heston at July 20, 2026 02:25 PM (wVcYX)

346 341 Iran supposedly is threatening to invade Kuwait and take over the US bases there (Ali Al Salem and Arifjan).

Easy pickings I'd say for our military.. Get them out in the open

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 02:25 PM (rijjI)

347 In honor of the day, I'm figna go watch the movie Pollo Lemon

ya be coo

Posted by: Don Black at July 20, 2026 02:26 PM (ZxPkt)

348 Important question: What parts of Iran are we going to bomb tonight?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 02:26 PM (826kS)

349 Have I said “Fuck cancer” lately?

Well, there, I say it again. Fuck cancer.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 02:24 PM (4g5V+)

Hear hear!!!!

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:26 PM (2YhKe)

350 > NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on potentially arresting Israeli PM Netanyahu.
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Do it.

Entertain us with shear stupidity.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 02:27 PM (jehhT)

351 Easy pickings I'd say for our military.. Get them out in the open
Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 02:25 PM (rijjI)
___

These are very large bases in Kuwait, used as staging areas when we rolled into Iraq twenty years ago.

They have been built up substantially since then.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:27 PM (x7Vzy)

352 Iran would have to go through Iraq to get to Kuwait. It’s only a small sliver of land but still. Likelihood of it happening: zero point zero-ish.

Posted by: 3rd World America at July 20, 2026 02:28 PM (GEtfQ)

353 -
No half measures! Take the entire head!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 02:25 PM (ndZc7)

Acceptable.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:28 PM (2YhKe)

354 Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 02:06 PM (6jTT/)

I watched that yesterday as well. It had some good stuff in it. It's obvious that TWA 800 was not some wiring issue simply from the fact that the FBI came in immediately and took over the investigation.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 02:14 PM (3Ope

***

I was working at Boeing when 800 happened. Was working next to a fellow who got a call a couple days after, said about three words and disappeared for a couple weeks. then he was back at work and the theory was a spark in the main gas tank. He never said where he went, but Bullshit was a frequent comment of his for awhile.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2026 02:28 PM (2WIwB)

355 >NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on causing an international incident, to be known as "an embarrassment for Trump".
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 02:25 PM (Fi81e)

The theater kid never got the beating he desperately needed.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 20, 2026 02:28 PM (rJ48h)

356 All you praying Horde people, this morning we got an unexpected diagnosis of a large tumor in the sigmoid colon for my husband.
That's all we know right now. Waiting for CT appt and they did a biopsy during the colonoscopy.

Please pray for us.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (4VH0B)
*******
Prayers sent!!!!

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 02:28 PM (NpAcC)

357 > NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on potentially arresting Israeli PM Netanyahu.
-----
Do it.

Entertain us with shear stupidity.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 02:27 PM (jehhT)

He gives bad haircuts now, too?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (wVcYX)

358 >>> NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on potentially arresting Israeli PM Netanyahu.

What's the charge?

Posted by: Rhetorical Question at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (Q+gd/)

359 #305 Had a flu two months ago. One week awful. 4 weeks coughing up lung butter. All good now.
No...no flu shot.

Posted by: torabora at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (lSsrt)

360 These are very large bases in Kuwait, used as staging areas when we rolled into Iraq twenty years ago.

They have been built up substantially since then.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:27 PM (x7Vzy)

How would the Iranian army get to Kuwait? March through Iraq? Paratroops? Wade across the Gulf?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (1z8ji)

361 Iran would have to go through Iraq to get to Kuwait. It’s only a small sliver of land but still. Likelihood of it happening: zero point zero-ish.
Posted by: 3rd World America at July 20, 2026 02:28 PM (GEtfQ)
__

Exactly.

Though there are elements of the Iraqi govt that are pretty much Iranian proxies.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (x7Vzy)

362 The theater kid never got the beating he desperately needed.

==

there is no time like the present !

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (GD0B3)

363 And now, a dead body is found at this guy's property.

Dems sure do have a lot of dead bodies show up on/in their property.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (v3afF)

364 If they try it will open a whole can of worms.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (826kS)

365 I'm fairly sure it was a missile, although it could have been a mistake or friendly fire from that nearby Navy ship.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Not sure why a Navy vessel would have Friend Or Foe systems online near a US commercial airport and it painted a commercial jet as foe. Even if they were turned on for a training exercise, going weapons hot seems a stretch.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 02:30 PM (diia5)

366 356 All you praying Horde people, this morning we got an unexpected diagnosis of a large tumor in the sigmoid colon for my husband.
That's all we know right now. Waiting for CT appt and they did a biopsy during the colonoscopy.

Please pray for us.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (4VH0B)
*******
Prayers sent!!!!
Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 02:28

Without question!

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 02:30 PM (hftzA)

367 74 California Attorney General Rob Bonta had argued the merger would lead to “higher prices, lower quality, and less content for film and television, harming movie theaters, basic cable distributors, and ultimately, audiences on every sofa and movie theater seat in the US.”

Posted by: beckster

Just about everything is h*m* sh*t written by r*tards and is nigh unwatchable. I used to hate the idea of AI generated content but after seeing what actual 'humans' came up with for Star Fleet academy...I for one look forward to entertainment produced by our new AI overlords.

Posted by: Nelly at July 20, 2026 02:30 PM (6+ehB)

368 Mamdani wants 'murdering terrorists' as the charge.
It's a slam dunk with NYC juries.

Posted by: torabora at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (lSsrt)

369 NYC Mayor Mamdani doubles down on potentially arresting Israeli PM Netanyahu.

What's the charge?
Posted by: Rhetorical Question

Alleged World Court Human Rights violations.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (v3afF)

370 Have I said “Fuck cancer” lately?

Well, there, I say it again. Fuck cancer.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 02:24 PM (4g5V+)

Spot on!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (2WIwB)

371

"Ed Miliband named UK foreign secretary."

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (GD0B3)

372 Logan Act prosecutions? Zero? Honestly?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (YlWIZ)

373 Please pray for us.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (4VH0B)
=====

Will do please send updates.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (RIvkX)

374 Dead Body Found at Home Belonging to Criminal Husband of Bald-Headed Freak Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley

I call her Aunt Fester.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (0C60m)

375 They have been built up substantially since then.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:27 PM (x7Vzy)

How would the Iranian army get to Kuwait? March through Iraq? Paratroops? Wade across the Gulf?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (1z8ji)

It's nonsense. Has anyone been paying attention what's been happening in Ukraine? Ground invasions without massive air superiority is just a slaughterhouse.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (edUvp)

376 Nood socialists.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:32 PM (N1tpc)

377 Surely, the TWA 800 incident involves a Smoking Man, an Umbrella Man, and a grassy knoll / sand dune? Surely, I say!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 02:32 PM (wVcYX)

378 How would the Iranian army get to Kuwait? March through Iraq? Paratroops? Wade across the Gulf?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (1z8ji)
___

Roll in through Iraq like Saddam did.

Difference now is that you have a lot of US forces in Kuwait that will not take kindly to being inavded.

Pretty sure the Kuwaiti govt will take a dim view of Iranian troops in their country also.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:32 PM (x7Vzy)

379 1st Lt. Tyler James Feehan, 25, of Ewa Beach, Hawaii.
Pvt. Isabella Gonzales, 19, of Carrollton, Texas.
====

May their memories be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 02:32 PM (RIvkX)

380 Not sure why a Navy vessel would have Friend Or Foe systems online near a US commercial airport and it painted a commercial jet as foe. Even if they were turned on for a training exercise, going weapons hot seems a stretch.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 02:30 PM (diia5)

Would it be possible for a saboteur aboard a Navy ship to fire off such a missile by himself?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 02:32 PM (1z8ji)

381 Please pray for us.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (4VH0B)

Hitting my knees.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2026 02:33 PM (2WIwB)

382 337 If he tries that it's more likely he will be arrested...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 02:22 PM (rijjI)

I'm getting to the point where I want Bibi to fly directly to NYC and drive straight to Gracie Mansion.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 02:23 PM (2YhKe)

; )

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (6wpGE)

383 Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 02:31 PM (GD0B3)

The most foppish government in human history.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (wGerL)

384 An update to Mr. Pressley, the company he fronts for has no record of existence according to the Mass. secretary of state

Prayers up for you and your husband, Tecumseh Tea.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 20, 2026 02:34 PM (ibDUx)

385 > Not sure why a Navy vessel would have Friend Or Foe systems online near a US commercial airport and it painted a commercial jet as foe. Even if they were turned on for a training exercise, going weapons hot seems a stretch.
----------
A US Navy missile cruiser shot down one of the carrier's f-18's it was protecting last year.

Or was it two?

Either way.... shit happens.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (jehhT)

386 Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2026 02:28 PM (2WIwB)

A mentor of mine was an EE and a DER for 30 years before he passed away and we had some pretty detailed and extensive conversations about that. The Part 26 rules that came out of the investigations were (in my mind) sorely needed but the whole premise of that effort being sourced as the TWA crash was just laughable.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (3Ope8)

387 After watching Stephen Miller step up to the mic during last week's The Ministerial on the Resurgence of Political Terrorism, hosted at the U.S. State Department, I'd say the Administration is on track for crackdown.

"“Here in the United States, we have taken the necessary and essential action of formally recognizing left-wing violence as a form of political terrorism that is a direct threat to our national security and the survival of our republican form of government,” Miller said at the top of his remarks." (Mediaite)

The Guarantee Clause of the US Constitution is about to be enforced.

Posted by: mrp at July 20, 2026 02:35 PM (rj6Yv)

388 376 Nood socialists.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 02:32 PM (N1tpc)

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (6wpGE)

389 Prayers for you and your husband TT. Good luck and God bless

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 02:37 PM (sMkB+)

390 They have been built up substantially since then.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 20, 2026 02:27 PM (x7Vzy)

How would the Iranian army get to Kuwait? March through Iraq? Paratroops? Wade across the Gulf?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 02:29 PM (1z8ji)

THere was a Navy vessel doing test firing underneath it exactly at the time of the downing. They were supposed to be shooting dummy missiles.

All it would have taken would be for one crewman to have made a stupid mistake and shoot a live missile instead, and for the ship command staff to realize "ooh we're all cooked if we admit what happened." And higher ups certainly did NOT want an investigation showing that the US Navy shot the plane down because of an idiotic mistake.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (edUvp)

391 > After watching Stephen Miller step up to the mic during last week's The Ministerial on the Resurgence of Political Terrorism, hosted at the U.S. State Department, I'd say the Administration is on track for crackdown.
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I saw his commentary the other day. If the administration follows though, shit's about to get real.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (jehhT)

392 Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 02:30 PM (diia5)

366 356 All you praying Horde people, this morning we got an unexpected diagnosis of a large tumor in the sigmoid colon for my husband.
That's all we know right now. Waiting for CT appt and they did a biopsy during the colonoscopy.

Please pray for us.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 20, 2026 02:17 PM (4VH0B)
*******
Prayers sent!!!!
Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 02:28

Without question!
Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 02:30 PM (hftzA)

Praying right now.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 20, 2026 02:38 PM (0C60m)

393 It takes approximately 74 MW of continuous power (or about 1.78 million kWh per day) to evaporate 750,000 gallons of water per day.

Posted by: pawn at July 20, 2026 02:47 PM (MNjaf)

394 Thermodynamics is a bitch!

Posted by: pawn at July 20, 2026 02:49 PM (MNjaf)

395 A Socialist is just a communist who hasn’t worked up the guts to pick up a gun and point it at you

Posted by: Creek at July 20, 2026 03:15 PM (jLxja)

396 The "Squad" might better be named the "Squid".

Posted by: Roland Hirsch at July 20, 2026 03:31 PM (Imt38)

THE MORNING RANT: “Yes” to Data Centers that Are Privately Funded, Without Taxpayer Subsidization

I support the construction of privately funded data centers whose utilities are not taxpayer-subsidized. Investors in data center projects are welcome to bring to my state and county all the economic activity that comes with their construction and operation. I’m also excited that the data center era has finally caused tech bros to abandon their green-energy obsession. They understand, finally, that they can’t have energy-hungry plants without the abundant, reliable electricity that comes from natural gas.

But I do not support the construction of data centers for which tax abatements, incentive payments, and subsidized utilities must be paid by taxpayers.

In the raging battle between pro-data center and anti-data center forces, the two sides may not even be talking about the same thing. It is understandable that many of those who oppose data centers are skeptical, given the horrendous track record of corporate welfare, corporate cronyism, and taxpayer-funded industrial boondoggles they’ve been forced to pay for.

In my part of the country, the Republican governors of Tennessee and Georgia have repeatedly gambled taxpayer money on “venture communism” projects, redistributing money from taxpayers to favored industrial developers, especially when it’s for the next big thing (usually EVs and battery manufacturers.) As I’ve frequently documented, Georgia Governor Brian Kemp has flushed away billions and billions of taxpayer dollars on failed EV-related endeavors. Republicans of the Chamber of Commerce persuasion applaud Governor Kemp’s naïve profligacy as being “pro-business.”

Governor Bill Lee of Tennessee is also addicted to wasting taxpayer money. This includes Ford’s mothballed, never-used EV plant near Memphis, for which Tennessee taxpayers contributed a billion dollars. Just a few weeks ago, Governor Lee announced a $30 million payment to Starbucks for relocating from Seattle to Nashville. Starbucks was fleeing Seattle anyhow, and would have come to Tennessee for nothing, but Governor Lee felt it very important to take a boatload of taxpayer money and give it to a left-wing corporation as a “thank you.” Starbucks sneers at Tennessee values. Now its executives (they/them) can also sneer at us for being easy marks.

Data centers are the new “next big thing,” and it is rational for exhausted taxpayers to expect they’ll again be asked to subsidize the capex and utility costs for these projects.

There shouldn’t be a binary choice between either banning economic progress, like New York has done with data centers, or subsidizing it, like Republican governors reflexively do.

My understanding is that most data centers are building their own natural gas power plants, with diesel generator backup. Millions of dollars are flowing to local contractors doing the grading, construction, electrical, etc. The data center buildout, combined with Trump’s reshoring efforts, are creating an industrial explosion in this country. It is similar to what politicians would call “stimulus spending,” but it’s privately funded.

However, those of us supporting data center construction need to be careful about insulting opponents as being anti-progress. Taxpayers have a legitimate fear of their elected officials betraying them in favor of promoters hustling the next big thing.

And finally, because much of the data center buildout is to support growing AI use, it doesn’t help for AI promoters to crow about all the people AI will put out of work. I genuinely believe that AI will be disruptive, eliminating some jobs while creating many more. But if AI is being sold as a way to eliminate labor expense and put people out of work, that will motivate people to oppose the data centers that fuel AI.

The blue-collar jobs and industrial development resulting from data center construction are what MAGA Republicans have been fighting for. Let’s take the win – so long as the developers are not being subsidized by local taxpayers.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 11:00 AM (v3afF)

2 Not in time

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 11:00 AM (N1tpc)

3 Corgis called.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 11:01 AM (v3afF)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:01 AM (2YhKe)

5 However, those of us supporting data center construction need to be careful about insulting opponents as being anti-progress.

Can we call them effeminate hosers, but in a nice way?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:02 AM (Riz8t)

6 This is the voice of world control....

Posted by: Archer at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (wvc0i)

7 Dey took our jerbs!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (FZ29D)

8 IF the data center will not cause disruption to the local populace- higher utility rates, more taxes, etc...- then I have no problem.

I get the impression that, at least around here, they are getting sweetheart deals from the local/state government.

In that case, no. No. NO. Build it at your own expense and not on the backs of locals.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (N1tpc)

9 It's not a reason to oppose DCs in and of itself, but China certainly seems to think spinning up DC opposition here benefits them.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (Riz8t)

10 it doesn’t help for AI promoters to crow about all the people weaned on dick.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (yr/Go)

11 Private profits and Public loses.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 11:04 AM (qFwJc)

12 Bring back the coal fired plants. Hell. Just the old plant that WAS off Lake Montecello in TX had a lignite mine nearby that contained 150 YEARS worth of fuel for it.

But NOOOOOO.....Rick f*cking Perry made a deal with the Devil Barack Hussein and agreed to shutter and destroy the coal plants.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:04 AM (2YhKe)

13 I agree with you Buck, but there are issues that complicate these massive centers.

Some are being built in small towns, and the huge amounts of money being thrown at them can overwhelm small town governments. That's not unique to AI Data...Walmart does the same thing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 11:04 AM (l4RKn)

14 I do have to question who ultimately would benefit from these data centers. Will the locals see any economic or other benefit, or is is just going to go back in the pockets of the tech/venture crowd? Given the track record, I know where I'm placing my marker.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 11:04 AM (OUMaO)

15 Can we call them effeminate hosers, but in a nice way?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:02 AM (Riz8t)

Seamy Dough-eyed Poofters.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:05 AM (2YhKe)

16 Can we call them effeminate hosers, but in a nice way?
Old greek homos watching Tarzan movies. The ones with boy in them.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 20, 2026 11:05 AM (yr/Go)

17 Thx Buck
Hochul (my governor) is a mindless corrupt dolt. Whatever the left wants she'll give them . Data center builders should try bribing her, that worked with home health care

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 11:05 AM (//bM7)

18 I may have opinions about this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 20, 2026 11:06 AM (u/oMr)

19 17 Thx Buck
Hochul (my governor) is a mindless corrupt dolt. Whatever the left wants she'll give them . Data center builders should try bribing her, that worked with home health care
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 11:05 AM (//bM7)

They should sink some money into getting those types REMOVED from office, but......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:06 AM (2YhKe)

20 Hopefully the data center moratoriums will result in something good happening - private data centers without subsidies. I was listening to the All-in podcast yesterday, and they were postulating that the dems want to obstruct data centers (and AI) until they are back in charge and can rake off as much as they can carry from these projects.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 20, 2026 11:06 AM (2ap+5)

21 ALSO: I know the PRC is promoting data center skepticism. That does not mean people do not have valid concerns. I'm tired of having my questions dismissed "because China" (or Russia, or whoever). Address the concerns and we'll talk.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 11:06 AM (OUMaO)

22 My understanding is that most data centers are building their own natural gas power plants, with diesel generator backup.

Department of Energy is fast-tracking micro-nuclear for data centers as well, which is even better than the gas turbines.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:07 AM (2ocoG)

23 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do.

All I can do is try and divine who wants them, and who doesn’t. It’s safe to conclude if the usual suspects are pushing for them in a fevered, hysterical insistence, then they are undoubtedly a bad idea.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 11:08 AM (022O5)

24 But without taxpayer funding these data centers, PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!ONEELEVENTY!

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 11:08 AM (lXoJ5)

25 Two things;

1. Developers look for cheap land to build datacenters on. Cheap land is typically going to be rural. And the political savvy of local governments is... lacking. They're easily bribed. And willing to subsidize utilities.

2. Datacenters attract additional development. The "urbanization" of once rural areas. Businesses that utilize datacenters will co-locate. Then comes the people for those businesses. Then comes the restaurants, shopping centers, homes and apartments.

It's no longer "rural."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 11:09 AM (jehhT)

26 ALSO: I know the PRC is promoting data center skepticism. That does not mean people do not have valid concerns. I'm tired of having my questions dismissed "because China" (or Russia, or whoever). Address the concerns and we'll talk.

Most of the concerns are recycled anti-fracking propaganda, and recognizable as such.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:09 AM (2ocoG)

27 I'm also for Data Centers if they provide their own power and don't affect the community negatively where they are located. They should also be a net positive tax revenue. What I think a lot of the locals aren't aware of is that Data Centers don't employ a lot of people once they are up and running.

I also don't like taking away farm /ranch land but that's just my apocalyptic paranoia.

The construction though will be a temporary economic boom which is good.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:09 AM (KC5Lt)

28 Retarded. LLMs are not "economic progress" for anyone but NVidia and SK Hynix.

Posted by: 2 Tha Back at July 20, 2026 11:10 AM (rtOnA)

29
But I do not support the construction of data centers for which tax abatements, incentive payments, and subsidized utilities must be paid by taxpayers.

New stadiums with a gazillion taxpayer-subsidized sky boxes that we can lease is the epitome of patriotism. Anything less is un-American.

Posted by: The NFL at July 20, 2026 11:10 AM (iqcvy)

30 The first Kim from North Korea was "The Great Leader".

The second was "The Dear Leader"

What's our current Kim called?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 20, 2026 11:10 AM (l26NL)

31 Will the locals see any economic or other benefit, or is is just going to go back in the pockets of the tech/venture crowd? Given the track record, I know where I'm placing my marker.

People said the same thing about Walmart, Costco, and any other giant corporation. They probably said the same thing about Sears. People will let you know which they value more by who they do business with.

Did you notice in the recent spate of videos about Euros being ecstatic about American stores, NONE of them involved little Mom and Pops? It was all the bigs.

If the tech/venture crowd provides a service that people like well enough to patronize, it's a good thing. I certainly agree with Buck about no taxpayer funding, which I'd love to see extended to sports teams. I expect ultimately to get a lot more value from the tech stuff, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:11 AM (Riz8t)

32 Kemp's fawning corporatism is on big reasons why Republicans underperform in his state.
Working-class voters are moderately pro-business but not pro-boondoggle, and Kemp is like the Bush family. Billions for Halliburton and Enron; bootstraps for you.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 11:12 AM (gKWVE)

33 I like my sweet rural shade the way it is. Data centers should go to blighted urban wastelands. Detroit has many square miles of rubble and squalor.

Posted by: Eb Dawson at July 20, 2026 11:12 AM (JM9I6)

34 I hate all the land they ruined with wind turbines and solar farms.

I know one Google center is located in a northwest river canyon and they were allowed to build a hydroelectric plant on the river just to power their center.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:13 AM (KC5Lt)

35 "There shouldn’t be a binary choice between either banning economic progress, like New York has done with data centers, "

Because whoever puts the words in Hochul's mouth isn't going to get their cut, most likely. Upstate NY is ideal for this stuff with more water than you could ever use and the Marcellus Shale formation. Also special bonus: There's areas where it has never been 100 degrees since they've kept records and cold water falls from the sky by the foot. But, noooOOOoooo. Hochul's a disgrace, but she's the diaper not the origin of the shitty problem.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at July 20, 2026 11:13 AM (w/O5Q)

36 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do.

Up until about 2 years ago they were just called "server farms" or "server facilities", which is a much better explanation of what they are and do. Lots of rack-mount servers grinding through data.

AI is currently where general-purpose computing was in the 1950s, when a single computer had 25,000 vacuum tubes (often 12AX7s, for you guitar amp people) and drew more power than Cleveland. In another decade or two you'll have more computing power than that in your phone, but right now you need the big rooms.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:13 AM (2ocoG)

37 "Investors in data center projects are welcome to bring to my state and county all the economic activity that comes with their construction and operation."

Depending on how much of that labor is local, and not H1Bs from India, or even illegals from Mexico and points south. Indians also seem very interested in replacing Americans and the American way, as they always promote their own.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 20, 2026 11:13 AM (vbXSk)

38 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do.

Videos of Natalie Portman with wildly exaggerated breasts? How is that not important?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:14 AM (Riz8t)

39 Data centers should go to blighted urban wastelands. Detroit has many square miles of rubble and squalor.
Posted by: Eb Dawson at July 20, 2026 11:12 AM (JM9I6)

I recall that Cincinnati was offered the chance to build a data center in one of its square miles of abandoned field. They said no.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 11:14 AM (gKWVE)

40 The rural life is attractive, but the threat of the bucolic setting changing suddenly when someone decides to build a dump, strip mine or build a data center is always there. That country road that meanders past your red dog two-track drive can quickly become busy with a smelly, noisy parade of dump trucks. There is no way to avoid this.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 20, 2026 11:14 AM (2ap+5)

41 It's more bullshot from the tech community. They will build these large data centers which will ruin otherwise peaceful areas, driving up prices and weirdos in your AO and enslaving you and your family to AI agitprop.

Posted by: Bend Over It's Coming Your Way at July 20, 2026 11:15 AM (e2lsi)

42 You know that sooner or later somebody is going to look at all the permanently furloughed erstwhile "workers" and wonder as to the value of keeping them alive.

Especially, since the Earth is so far over it's "carrying capacity".

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:15 AM (Fi81e)

43 I also don't like taking away farm /ranch land but that's just my apocalyptic paranoia.

Same. I also don't like that the working farm across the street from my house when I bought it 9 years ago is now filling up with cardboard McMansions (and I mean cardboard, I see every day the quality of the work going into them).

But as the technology advances the space requirements will go down and these facilities will probably all become Amazon warehouses or Wal-Marts.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:15 AM (2ocoG)

44 It would be nice, but let’s be real, virtually every jurisdiction will dish out tax breaks and other bribes for data centers and much else besides.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:16 AM (4g5V+)

45 the developers are not being subsidized by local taxpayers.

Posted by Buck Throckmorton

I know where my bet goes.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 20, 2026 11:16 AM (NnhvP)

46 Data centers don't really provide much employment beyond the initial construction and aren't industrial capacity. Maybe one day some of them will be employed supporting industry.

They are in the short run crowding out actual industrial development though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 11:16 AM (okun6)

47
Progress in technology is an inevitable thing. It can't be stopped.

But, it can be thwarted at every turn, as I learned from something I support - nuclear energy - being thwarted at every turn for 50 years until it suited people who run data centers.

Within a few short years, starting in about 2018, generations worth of antipathy toward nuclear power have evaporated like the dew in the morn, as our government and its generous donors decided that the competitive advantage they derived from environmentalist regulation and taxation was outweighed by the need for electrical power to fuel their dreams of robots replacing their meddlesome human constituents and customers and laborers.

Suddenly, nuclear energy has gone from "dooming all life on earth" to "cool and new and the future," because its a better way to fuck me over in the Current Year.

Whether it's publicly or privately funded, remember: it's never permitted or encouraged unless they believe it fucks you over.

They could be wrong, or right about their "fucking you over more than it fucks them over" calculation. But that's always the calculation.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2026 11:17 AM (BI5O2)

48 You know that sooner or later somebody is going to look at all the permanently furloughed erstwhile "workers" and wonder as to the value of keeping them alive.

Especially, since the Earth is so far over it's "carrying capacity".

Given that most countries are experiencing below replacement fertility, it's a self-correcting problem.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

49 Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 11:08 AM (022O5)

I'm with Cernovich on this one. If the big techfags want MAGA support, fuck you pay us. They spent billions to push that semisentient stool called Joe Biden on us in 2020. They should spend billions to keep Congress Republican now, or enjoy DSA.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 11:17 AM (gKWVE)

50 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do.

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Data center things.

Posted by: Your AI Overlords at July 20, 2026 11:17 AM (Fi81e)

51 I tentatively stand near where you do on this, Buck. Wholeheartedly on the 'screw your subsidies' angle, and while I think AI in its current path is massively overhyped, used creatively it can be of utility... and certainly, it at least somewhat counters how completely crap all the search engines have become in the last couple of decades by acting as a search-results-aggregator. I do dislike the idea of 'stick it in the middle of nowhere', but that's as much on cities for over-regulating and over-charging the taxes and rents. I doubt subsidies are the only way the companies can afford to build within city limits, but it certainly lets the cities have their cake and eat it too - while the big company simply plans into things that 'well, when we have to start paying taxes instead of receiving them, we'll just put out bids to other cities!'.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 20, 2026 11:18 AM (aJQbY)

52 Pixley being the county seat of the greater Hooterville, Pixley, Crabwell Corners, valley is always trying to shove Big City ideas on us. Making the Cannonball Express a bullet train was defeated in the last election, so it's a hopeful sign that rational rural thought will prevail.

Posted by: Floyd and Charlie on the Cannonball at July 20, 2026 11:18 AM (JM9I6)

53 My understanding is that most data centers are building their own natural gas power plants, with diesel generator backup.

We need to get them putting in modular nukes. And selling their excess power to the local grid.

Posted by: GWB at July 20, 2026 11:18 AM (kU0PQ)

54 33 I like my sweet rural shade the way it is. Data centers should go to blighted urban wastelands. Detroit has many square miles of rubble and squalor.
Posted by: Eb Dawson at July 20, 2026 11:12 AM (JM9I6)

There are shabby areas of rural communities near me that could use them. Probably the best economic news they would have in decades.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:18 AM (4g5V+)

55 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do.

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Data center things.
Posted by: Your AI Overlords at July 20, 2026 11:17 AM (Fi81

Data center things that go up.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:19 AM (KC5Lt)

56 . I also don't like that the working farm across the street from my house when I bought it 9 years ago is now filling up with cardboard McMansions (and I mean cardboard, I see every day the quality of the work going into them).

But as the technology advances the space requirements will go down and these facilities will probably all become Amazon warehouses or Wal-Marts.

I have the same reaction when I drive on Rt. 1 here in NoVa, and it's mile after mile of ugly strip malls. I'd much rather have a few, very large distribution centers, and just plow all the strip malls under.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:19 AM (Riz8t)

57 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do
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Robbery, surveillance, assault, and surveillance.

They like surveillance.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 11:19 AM (AfzoM)

58 Suddenly, nuclear energy has gone from "dooming all life on earth" to "cool and new and the future," because its a better way to fuck me over in the Current Year.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2026 11:17 AM (BI5O2)
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Well remember, it's been decades that the "We should be more like Europe" people have resisted running on nuclear ... to the extent Europe does.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:19 AM (Fi81e)

59 Expecting no government help when large projects are considered means you just won't get the business. While Georgia and Tennessee made some real stupid bets, they also made some better ones - especially Tennessee. Infrastructure support and fixed business and property tax bills based upon agreed upon investment and employment levels is how the game is played.

Dumb governors/states make dumb decisions. No way to protect from that outside of doing what you can to make sure political machines aren't fixing the elections.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 11:20 AM (GZYu7)

60 mile after mile of ugly strip malls

But people *need* check cashing stores, nail salons, tattoo parlors, and Habib's Kebab Palace.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 11:21 AM (gKWVE)

61 Give me your lakes!!

Water!!

Need more water!!

Posted by: Data Center at July 20, 2026 11:21 AM (Fi81e)

62 We need to get them putting in modular nukes. And selling their excess power to the local grid.

There are multiple modular nuke companies that have spun up and at least one of them has special authorization from the Department of Energy to get their shit going ASAP.

I would love to park a shipping container in my back yard, hook up some wires, and tell the electric company to fuck off. Probably won't happen in my lifetime, but I fully support anyone trying to make it happen.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:21 AM (2ocoG)

63 Well remember, it's been decades that the "We should be more like Europe" people have resisted running on nuclear ... to the extent Europe does.

France does, but Germany, in a fit of lunacy, closed all its nukes before developing a reliable replacement. It's unlike the Germans to throw in their lot with unproven lunacy, but...never mind.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:21 AM (Riz8t)

64 > They are in the short run crowding out actual industrial development though.
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I don't think that's necessarily true.

Datacenters attract other businesses that leverage their computing services. Like shipping companies, business to business outfits, any logistical company and so on. Proximity to the datacenter is attractive, keeps costs down for infrastructure that they'd likely have to build themselves.

Those in turn attract more workers, which leads to services for those workers like food shops, shopping, etc. Eventually it becomes it's own little (or big) urban center. With suburbs.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 11:22 AM (jehhT)

65 Give me your lakes!!

Water!!

Need more water!!

Already a solved problem. The newest facilities are being built with fully closed-loop cooling, like the radiator in your '67 Camaro.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:22 AM (2ocoG)

66 You want your children's future taken by AI; good for you! They'll never know what it's like to work.

Morons Are Governing America (MAGA).

Posted by: Sid...who enjoys the sexual affections of his hamster at July 20, 2026 11:23 AM (fNO1z)

67 Timed Tax abatements are OK. Giving a time period reduced tax to bring a business is OK. It costs them a boatload to start up. It's not money out of a citizens pocket. Paying a business to come is butt dumb. My town did that twice and it cost us four times. It cost to bring them and it cost to get rid of them (clean up).

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:23 AM (826kS)

68 Working-class voters are moderately pro-business but not pro-boondoggle, and Kemp is like the Bush family. Billions for Halliburton and Enron; bootstraps for you.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 11:12 AM (gKWVE)

“Working class” as opposed to the hyper evil rich assholes who do not ever work and need to be publicly and violently killed.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:24 AM (4g5V+)

69 Already a solved problem. The newest facilities are being built with fully closed-loop cooling, like the radiator in your '67 Camaro.

I hope they use cooling ponds, so we can have NoVa manatees.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:24 AM (Riz8t)

70 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do
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AI processing for vids of Mrs. Incredible doing, uh, incredible things. So I've heard.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 20, 2026 11:25 AM (Dv3i1)

71 I don't like most of the 'not in my backyard' opponents but I understand the reasoning. I think it's up to these billion dollar tech companies to make it a win win. We have to always move forward with innovation but it can't be at the expense of the citizenry for the profit of a few.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:25 AM (KC5Lt)

72 64 > They are in the short run crowding out actual industrial development though.
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I don't think that's necessarily true.

Datacenters attract other businesses that leverage their computing services. Like shipping companies, business to business outfits, any logistical company and so on. Proximity to the datacenter is attractive, keeps costs down for infrastructure that they'd likely have to build themselves.

Those in turn attract more workers, which leads to services for those workers like food shops, shopping, etc. Eventually it becomes it's own little (or big) urban center. With suburbs.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 11:22 AM (jehhT)

They've driven up construction costs substantially for factories, there's public reporting on it. There's generally not much reason to want to be physically close to a data center, they could be in China (and a fair amount probably will be renting their services from China).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 11:25 AM (okun6)

73
*polite cough*

Try "subsidy" instead of "subsidization".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 11:25 AM (O0L8i)

74 66: if only the Morons we’re governing America. It would be running infinitely better and you can be a bigger ingrate and malcontent.

Hell, you might actually be forced to get off your ass and work for a change assuming you aren’t a bot.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:26 AM (4g5V+)

75 I don't like most of the 'not in my backyard' opponents but I understand the reasoning. I think it's up to these billion dollar tech companies to make it a win win. We have to always move forward with innovation but it can't be at the expense of the citizenry for the profit of a few.

This is the way.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:26 AM (Riz8t)

76 13 I agree with you Buck, but there are issues that complicate these massive centers.

Some are being built in small towns, and the huge amounts of money being thrown at them can overwhelm small town governments. That's not unique to AI Data...Walmart does the same thing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 11:04 AM (l4RKn
Yeah, we’ve been driving by one for years now.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 11:26 AM (LHPAg)

77 Heard Ted Cruz this past weekend claim that the anti-Data Center hysteria sweeping the nation (and apparently supported by the majority of both The Left and The Right) is a PsyOp being funded by Neville Roy Singham on behalf of Communist Chy-na -- in their quest to achieve superiority in "AI."

Don't know how true that is or to what extent, but an interesting aspect I hadn't heard and TBH would not surprise me.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 11:26 AM (27aLr)

78 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do.

Endless hours of kitten videos.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 11:26 AM (v3afF)

79 It's ma'am. IT'S MA'AM!!!

Posted by: The next evolution: transAI at July 20, 2026 11:26 AM (TbWk/)

80
I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do

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Dummy. They center data. Like ace frequently does.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 11:26 AM (O0L8i)

81
Already a solved problem. The newest facilities are being built with fully closed-loop cooling, like the radiator in your '67 Camaro.

Posted by: Ian S.
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And the water wouldn't disappear. There're some laws, thermodynamic. They called it conservation of matter in Jr. High, iirc.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:26 AM (826kS)

82 I think people overestimate the extent to which data centers as a use of square footage "provides jobs".

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:28 AM (Fi81e)

83 I would think that tax abatements are a win win if that is what it takes to get the business to move in.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 20, 2026 11:28 AM (4NO2D)

84 Already a solved problem. The newest facilities are being built with fully closed-loop cooling, like the radiator in your '67 Camaro.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:22 AM (2ocoG)

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So they take our water and just keep it???

Posted by: Oglebay at July 20, 2026 11:28 AM (2ap+5)

85 There's generally not much reason to want to be physically close to a data center, they could be in China (and a fair amount probably will be renting their services from China).

This raises a question I've asked many times, but never seen answered. How close does a DC need to be to the users? AI answers:

There is no fixed distance requirement, but for real-time applications (like financial trading or live streaming), data centers should ideally be within 50 miles of users. Every 100 miles adds roughly 0.82 milliseconds of round-trip network delay, so proximity reduces latency and speeds up response times.

The exact proximity needed depends entirely on your application:
Under 50 miles (

50 to 500 miles (10–25 ms latency): Suitable for standard cloud computing, most SaaS platforms, and media streaming.

500+ miles: Acceptable for general web browsing, email, data backups, and static content.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:29 AM (Riz8t)

86 Who's more retarded? Sid or Paul? You could probably have an AI data center blow itself up asking that question.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:29 AM (KC5Lt)

87 Turn the EV plants into data centers.

Posted by: fd - I forgive you for the mistakes I made at July 20, 2026 11:29 AM (MWfyi)

88 Nice to see Sd chiming in on behalf of United Horse and Buggy Workers Local 210.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at July 20, 2026 11:29 AM (w/O5Q)

89 Whoops, here's the part I accidentally deleted:

Under 50 miles (< 10 ms latency): Needed for Edge Computing, high-frequency trading, multiplayer gaming, and telehealth. These are positioned directly in or on the edge of major metropolitan areas.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)

90 We have to always move forward with innovation but it can't be at the expense of the citizenry for the profit of a few.

Posted by: polynikes
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They could build the SMRs a tad bigger and sell the extra juice to us at a discount.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:30 AM (826kS)

91 Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:24 AM (4g5V+)

I didn't say they need to be "publicly and violently killed".
I said they ought to ask Americans, nicely, to help them against those who do want them publicly and violently killed. "Nicely" in the sense of a nice big payout to good GOP candidates.
Or we won't help them, and won't care when they'll be publicly and violently killed.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 11:30 AM (gKWVE)

92 Nice to see Sd chiming in on behalf of United Horse and Buggy Workers Local 210.

Sid still mourns the loss of feudalism.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)

93 Dummy. They center data. Like ace frequently does.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 11:26 AM (O0L8i)

Heh. Sick. Burn.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:30 AM (2YhKe)

94 "I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do"

Cats on waterskis. Don't you watch the internet?

Posted by: fd - "No" is a complete sentence at July 20, 2026 11:30 AM (MWfyi)

95 Nice to see Sd chiming in on behalf of United Horse and Buggy Workers Local 210.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at July 20, 2026 11:29 AM (w/O5Q)
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Progressive Luddite is the new progressive.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:30 AM (Fi81e)

96 Under 50 miles (
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Why does telehealth need this? It's just a zoom with the doc.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 11:33 AM (XvL8K)

97 Posted by: Sid at July 20, 2026 11:23 AM (fNO1z)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at July 20, 2026 11:33 AM (2YhKe)

98 This raises a question I've asked many times, but never seen answered. How close does a DC need to be to the users? AI answers:

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:29 AM (Riz8t)

What these datacenters are for is AI computation. The computation takes considerably more time than travel time for a prompt. You might task an AI with spending several days doing data scraping for instance. The reason they're building them in rural areas is because there's little need for proximity.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 11:33 AM (okun6)

99 I remember when they laid fiber optic and one company spooled the fiber optic at its end point in order to delay the info by x to others so they could get trades in first.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:33 AM (KC5Lt)

100 Under 50 miles (
__________

Why does telehealth need this? It's just a zoom with the doc.

I don't know.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:33 AM (Riz8t)

101
Sid still mourns the loss of feudalism.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)

Sid mourns the loss of his job AT the glory hole. He's since been relegated to cleaning it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:34 AM (2YhKe)

102 Give me your lakes!!

Water!!

Need more water!!

With more sugar. More! MORE!!

Posted by: Edgar at July 20, 2026 11:35 AM (wVcYX)

103 To you guys who think people are actually losing jobs to this "AI" gimmick, let me explain how business works in America 2026. Companies don't make money selling products to consumers anymore. Companies only exist to sell hype and "investment". to do do that, they need to demonstrate growth, which is why they are all overstuffed with worthless know-nothings. Obviously, they can not have artificial growth forever, so "AI" is the release valve that allows them to downsize while continuing to sell the hype without freaking out investors. "AI" (LLMs) can not do any task that requires reasoning. It is a parrot, and if you have a job as a parrot, it was in danger to begin with.

Posted by: 2 Tha Back at July 20, 2026 11:35 AM (rtOnA)

104 The reason they're building them in rural areas is because there's little need for proximity.

And yet, some of the most valuable land in the country is in Loudon County, here in NoVa, and it is COVERED with DCs. If distance doesn't matter, I have some nice, exhausted, ex-tobacco and cotton land in SoVa they can use for DCs.

Oh wait, they are.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:35 AM (Riz8t)

105 'Morning, all.

It dawned on me yesterday that these AI centers aren't going to create any jobs at all. Someone's making out like a bandit courtesy of Joe Sixpack. But then that's nothing new.

I gotta quit reading the news. It ruins my day.

Posted by: creeper at July 20, 2026 11:36 AM (80oeU)

106 There's also evidence that the unions, electrical, plumbing, etc. are involved in the datacenter boom. Word is they'll send a couple goons to a local zoning commission meeting to put pressure on the locals to accept the datacenter.

Electricians who can work on them are making six figures and are in high demand. Same for plumber familiar with the water cooling systems. Anyone remotely associated with the build out of one is going to make bank because of the demand.

So... there's a lot of "under the table" shit going on, and a lot of people are getting rich of it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 11:36 AM (jehhT)

107 AI computation, centralized virtual servers such as Azure, Amazon and Google and Cloud Storage.

All your data are belong to not you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:36 AM (2YhKe)

108 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do

__________

Dummy. They center data. Like ace frequently does.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Versus Left Justified.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 11:36 AM (v3afF)

109 Polyester for the win!

https://tinyurl.com/47wyauu4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 11:36 AM (ndZc7)

110 To you guys who think people are actually losing jobs to this "AI" gimmick, let me explain how business works in America 2026.

Thanks. Condescension always makes things easier to understand, and people more receptive to the message.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:36 AM (Riz8t)

111 104 "The reason they're building them in rural areas is because there's little need for proximity."

And yet, some of the most valuable land in the country is in Loudon County, here in NoVa, and it is COVERED with DCs. If distance doesn't matter, I have some nice, exhausted, ex-tobacco and cotton land in SoVa they can use for DCs.

Oh wait, they are.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:35 AM (Riz8t)

Again, the function here is different. 2/3rds of new data centers are planned for rural, whereas nearly 90% of old data centers were in urban areas.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 11:37 AM (okun6)

112 I think people overestimate the extent to which data centers as a use of square footage "provides jobs".
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:28 AM (Fi81e)

Of course they'll do.

And they'll also listen about tax proceeds as well.

And they'll never consider the low number of jobs, or the fact that the much larger number of jobs and and taxes created are harvested at the far flung headquarters of whatever company is farming data on their land.

It's just "cool" and "new" and "future..." it's all the same buzzwords used to bilk the high-flying investors they bust out for their seed funding, but for the low-flying tax sheep they fleece for their physical plant.

Once you realize that 90% of things are bullshit, everything makes more sense.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2026 11:37 AM (BI5O2)

113 The new Buffalo Bill's logo.

https://tinyurl.com/ypsu7mjd

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 11:38 AM (ndZc7)

114 AI processing for vids of Mrs. Incredible doing, uh, incredible things. So I've heard.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 20, 2026 11:25 AM (Dv3i1)

Mirage had the exotic look, though ...

Posted by: far cry at July 20, 2026 11:39 AM (fmbc9)

115 To you guys who think people are actually losing jobs to this "AI" gimmick, let me explain how business works in America 2026.

Posted by: 2 Tha Back at July 20, 2026 11:35 AM (rtOnA)
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That's not me as much as it is Elon himself who has suggested that AI can provide an "Age of Leisure" where fewer people will have to work.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:39 AM (Fi81e)

116 82 I think people overestimate the extent to which data centers as a use of square footage "provides jobs".

Posted by: Axeman
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They will create a positive feedback loop. Initially, building them will provide high paying construction jobs which will move from site to site. When the data (AI) center comes on line it will bring invention (new technology, medical devices, rocket engines) that will again create new jobs. The cycle rhymes with 19th century industrial revolution. This is just the beginning.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:39 AM (826kS)

117 I've got an idea for a movie like "Backrooms" but in a Data Center". Tentative title "Backuprooms".

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 11:39 AM (MWfyi)

118 AI is to become the new hollywood without all the sexual assault and molestation.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:40 AM (2YhKe)

119 Again, the function here is different. 2/3rds of new data centers are planned for rural, whereas nearly 90% of old data centers were in urban areas.

Understood. But if I understood you correctly, you said that proximity wasn't important to DCs, because they're doing AI.

What these datacenters are for is AI computation. The computation takes considerably more time than travel time for a prompt. You might task an AI with spending several days doing data scraping for instance. The reason they're building them in rural areas is because there's little need for proximity.

Set aside for the moment the fact that AI isn't ALL they're doing. Why would anyone ever have built them on expensive, close-in land, if there wasn't a technological driver to build them there?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:40 AM (Riz8t)

120 I just hope they don't build one next to our "farm" that was purchased intentionally to be way the fk out away from everything else.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 11:41 AM (MWfyi)

121 But as the technology advances the space requirements will go down and these facilities will probably all become Amazon warehouses or Wal-Marts.

Posted by: Ian S.

Beg pardon, but I've seen what happened with Walmart. And I've heard how it is with the Amazon warehouses.

These are not people I want to rely upon to bring prosperity for the general population.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 11:42 AM (OUMaO)

122 The conversation about AI 2-3 years ago: We don't want AI taking over humanity!!

The conversation now: We must build more and larger data centers to meet AI demands.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:42 AM (Fi81e)

123 The new Buffalo Bill's logo.

https://tinyurl.com/ypsu7mjd
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
__________

I read somewhere that they changed their helmets to red in the 80s because every other team in the division was also white, and Jim Kelley couldn't spot his receivers downfield.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 11:42 AM (XvL8K)

124 They will create a positive feedback loop. Initially, building them will provide high paying construction jobs which will move from site to site. When the data (AI) center comes on line it will bring invention (new technology, medical devices, rocket engines) that will again create new jobs. The cycle rhymes with 19th century industrial revolution. This is just the beginning.

I THINK that's right, but OTOH, there is the prospect that AI is fundamentally different than everything that came before, in that it may eventually be better at virtually everything that humans can currently do. We can't ALL make a living reaming out each other's clogged pipes.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:43 AM (Riz8t)

125 The VA data centers are mostly for cloud based functions.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:43 AM (KC5Lt)

126 I object to data centers being built on pristine farmland when there are so many disused industrial sites with existing infrastructure

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 20, 2026 11:43 AM (sir2i)

127 Data centers must become the terrain of planet Earth!!

Posted by: Not A Data Center at July 20, 2026 11:43 AM (Fi81e)

128 I honestly don't understand how there are conservatives who have a bee in their bonnet over data centers.

I mean, it's almost Rule #1:
If you're on the same side as Democrats on an issue, you're almost certainly on the wrong side.
Double and triple check.
Because it's almost always an op.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 11:44 AM (3cUTc)

129 Thanks. Condescension always makes things easier to understand, and people more receptive to the message.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:36 AM (Riz8t)

It's worked for parents, teachers, religious figures and politicians for ages and ages. Add in beatings, threats of violence, and the fear of eternal damnation and you've got a pretty effective system.

Posted by: Ain't broke, don't fix it at July 20, 2026 11:44 AM (TbWk/)

130 Set aside for the moment the fact that AI isn't ALL they're doing. Why would anyone ever have built them on expensive, close-in land, if there wasn't a technological driver to build them there?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:40 AM (Riz8t)

The new datacenter wave is about AI. Functionally speaking this is a question of whether you want your "computer" close to you or far away from you. Some tasks benefit from proximity and lower latency, planned uses for AI mostly don't. You could have it even closer just by setting up AI on a local machine.

Failed example of "cloud computing" was in streamed gaming due to latency. Instead of having the console be a powerful machine, simply stream the game from a central location. Unpleasant actual experience in reality.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 11:44 AM (okun6)

131 Put them underground. Grow crops on top of them.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:44 AM (2YhKe)

132 We can't ALL make a living reaming out each other's clogged pipes.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:43 AM (Riz8t)

Speak for yourself, sailor! SQUEEEEEE!!!

Posted by: Pete Buttgig at July 20, 2026 11:45 AM (TbWk/)

133 That's not me as much as it is Elon himself who has suggested that AI can provide an "Age of Leisure" where fewer people will have to work.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:39 AM (Fi81e)

Don't people work to do things like pay their utilities and mortgages and put food on the table? If people have more leisure, how will they pay for those commodities?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 11:45 AM (3Ope8)

134 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:39 AM (826kS

You're doing it again. You're talking about the overall benefit of AI data centers when addressing others who are talking about the specific future benefit to the citizens of the locality where the completed Data Center is located.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:46 AM (KC5Lt)

135 "AI" (LLMs) can not do any task that requires reasoning. It is a parrot, and if you have a job as a parrot, it was in danger to begin with.

Not actually true. The latest, highest-end models are getting quite good at, at the very least, reasoning-adjacent tasks. OpenAI and Anthropic have been speed-running "impossible" mathematical and scientific proofs the last few months.

Set aside for the moment the fact that AI isn't ALL they're doing. Why would anyone ever have built them on expensive, close-in land, if there wasn't a technological driver to build them there?

Same reason AOL built their data center in NoVa in the 1980s: proximity to power. And I don't mean electricity.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:46 AM (2ocoG)

136 AI is to become the new hollywood without all the sexual assault and molestation.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:40 AM (2YhKe)
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But not 0.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:46 AM (Fi81e)

137 Rand at transterrestrial.com linked to an interesting article suggesting data center opposition as being a proxy war against AI.

https://tinyurl.com/yc5mc8zb

Posted by: far cry at July 20, 2026 11:47 AM (fmbc9)

138 Don't people work to do things like pay their utilities and mortgages and put food on the table? If people have more leisure, how will they pay for those commodities?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 11:45 AM (3Ope

They will be in the leisure business I guess.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:47 AM (KC5Lt)

139 128 I honestly don't understand how there are conservatives who have a bee in their bonnet over data centers.

I mean, it's almost Rule #1:
If you're on the same side as Democrats on an issue, you're almost certainly on the wrong side.
Double and triple check.
Because it's almost always an op.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 11:44 AM (3cUTc)

There are real downsides to it. An area will probably get property taxes for a time and local construction employment for a while. Many of the ongoing benefits accrue outside of the region.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 11:47 AM (okun6)

140 ---
But not 0.
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:46 AM (Fi81e)

Correct. However, it will all be f*cking and sucking for a script written, not every role in every show.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:47 AM (2YhKe)

141 Suspect in custody after FBI says he "deployed an incendiary device" outside NYC federal building

https://tinyurl.com/ajkxps6s

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 11:47 AM (ndZc7)

142 Don't people work to do things like pay their utilities and mortgages and put food on the table? If people have more leisure, how will they pay for those commodities?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 11:45 AM (3Ope

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VOLUME!!

(And the "Living Wage".)

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:48 AM (Fi81e)

143 They will be in the leisure business I guess.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:47 AM (KC5Lt)

Oh FFS...they're trying to bring back the leisure suit!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 11:48 AM (3Ope8)

144 That's not me as much as it is Elon himself who has suggested that AI can provide an "Age of Leisure" where fewer people will have to work.

I love Elon, but he's full of shit about that. I personally work at a job that didn't exist the day I was born, and work will always be like that. And underneath it all, there will always be demand for carpenters, plumbers, welders, and electricians.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:49 AM (2ocoG)

145 They will create a positive feedback loop. Initially, building them will provide high paying construction jobs which will move from site to site. When the data (AI) center comes on line it will bring invention (new technology, medical devices, rocket engines) that will again create new jobs. The cycle rhymes with 19th century industrial revolution. This is just the beginning.

Those are things that can happen, yes. They may also be used for mass surveillance, or ad servers and general data farming, or for other purposes that do not bring a general benefit (or a weak one at best).

If questions about effects on electricity costs, or actual labor practices, or effects on real estate prices potentially pricing locals out of their own community aren't addressed it becomes a hard sell. Folks are used to seeing the negatives from developments while the positives keep on winding up in someone else's pockets.

I get all the economic arguments. But we aren't just in an economic environment. Disregarding the track record and its social consequences just leads to another round of socialized costs and privatized profits. I'd love to be proven wrong, but...

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 11:49 AM (OUMaO)

146 One of the problems with the data centers is they utilize a lot of power. The freebies want to use wind and solar which cannot produce enough. Even then they use the battery storage centers which are nice and flammable. Companies are trying to build at least three in my county , including one about a mile and a half from me

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 11:49 AM (sMkB+)

147 Suspect in custody after FBI says he "deployed an incendiary device" outside NYC federal building

https://tinyurl.com/ajkxps6s
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 11:47 AM (ndZc7)

I am GRATEFUL for Hegseth getting our military back in shape. I mean, LOOK at all the fat f*cks in law enforcement roaming around that scene.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:50 AM (2YhKe)

148 Put them underground. Grow crops on top of them.

Problem solved.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:44 AM (2YhKe)

What a splendid idea. Digital wheat.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2026 11:51 AM (g8Ew8)

149 Oh FFS...they're trying to bring back the leisure suit!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 11:48 AM (3Ope

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Tanned, rested, and ready!

Posted by: Larry at July 20, 2026 11:51 AM (FZ29D)

150
Oh FFS...they're trying to bring back the leisure suit!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 11:48 AM

Tanned, rested and ready!

Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at July 20, 2026 11:51 AM (2YhKe)

151 Not actually true. The latest, highest-end models are getting quite good at, at the very least, reasoning-adjacent tasks. OpenAI and Anthropic have been speed-running "impossible" mathematical and scientific proofs the last few months.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:46 AM (2ocoG)

It's not reasoning so much as something akin to heuristic and statistical methods of solving problems. Which is quite good for some things and at others can sometimes accomplish things with brute force. Hard to say where the limits are but it's far more efficient in corresponding areas.

We also rely a lot on pattern matching and trial and error based experience in our daily lives.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 11:51 AM (okun6)

152 I like the meme where "Chuck Norris goes to Yellowstone" and you see a bison flying through the air

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 11:52 AM (sMkB+)

153 I THINK that's right, but OTOH, there is the prospect that AI is fundamentally different than everything that came before, in that it may eventually be better at virtually everything that humans can currently do. We can't ALL make a living reaming out each other's clogged pipes.

Posted by: Archimedes
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For our children or grandchildren it will be a totally different world that what we live in. Rockefeller turned the night into day, Carnegie made steel than enabled bridges and buildings as never before, Wright brothers developed mathematical flight formulas still used today. Edison, and others.
Compare 1920 to 1820 living. That's where we are going.
We are on the cusp of a new world.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:52 AM (826kS)

154 It's all lies, all the time. From elections to immigration to social security to blah blah blah.

Whatever the powers that be are telling you about AI is lies to get you onboard or at very least not oppose them.

Once in place you will serve the new masters.

Posted by: All Lies at July 20, 2026 11:52 AM (e2lsi)

155 Set aside for the moment the fact that AI isn't ALL they're doing. Why would anyone ever have built them on expensive, close-in land, if there wasn't a technological driver to build them there?

Same reason AOL built their data center in NoVa in the 1980s: proximity to power. And I don't mean electricity.

If that's the goal, you build your DCs on cheap land away from cities, and rent office space downtown.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:52 AM (Riz8t)

156 I mean, it's almost Rule #1:
If you're on the same side as Democrats on an issue, you're almost certainly on the wrong side.
Double and triple check.
Because it's almost always an op.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 11:44 AM (3cUTc)

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That's classic tribal behavior, and that's why TDS-ers can't land at Donald Trump International Airport.

You're actually doing something much closer to what we can see as the least intelligent reaction they have, if you ask "Who else believes that I'm starting to find credible?"

That's the reason that conservatives has "weaponized patriotism" to the extent that progressives argue they have a resistance to flying a flag because of who else it is more associated with.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:52 AM (Fi81e)

157 149 Oh FFS...they're trying to bring back the leisure suit!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 11:48 AM (3Ope
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Tanned, rested, and ready!
Posted by: Larry at July 20, 2026 11:51 AM (FZ29D)

150
Oh FFS...they're trying to bring back the leisure suit!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 11:48 AM

Tanned, rested and ready!
Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at July 20, 2026 11:51 AM (2YhKe)
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Hordemind is awesome!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 11:53 AM (FZ29D)

158 The modular nuclear reactors, the ones they just successfully turned on July 3, 2026 at INEL, will make all the electricity concerns moot.
Each one will be able to power multiple data centers and add power to the grid.

That is a big reason the left is so desperate to pass zoning laws now and are emphasizing the lie of power consumption.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 11:53 AM (3cUTc)

159 Because this is the HQ, here's an AI-generated video of bouncing boobs:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UlYNSGdxGC0

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:53 AM (2ocoG)

160 I am GRATEFUL for Hegseth getting our military back in shape. I mean, LOOK at all the fat f*cks in law enforcement roaming around that scene.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:50 AM (2YhKe)

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In spite of the disgustingly tragic circumstances, the "Meal Team Six" meme was right on.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 11:53 AM (27aLr)

161
Sid still mourns the loss of feudalism.
Posted by: Archimedes

Regurgitating propaganda does not reflect intelligence.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 20, 2026 11:54 AM (NnhvP)

162 The new datacenter wave is about AI. Functionally speaking this is a question of whether you want your "computer" close to you or far away from you. Some tasks benefit from proximity and lower latency, planned uses for AI mostly don't. You could have it even closer just by setting up AI on a local machine.

That was the point of the extract I posted. Some things require low latency, while others don't. Yet AI, which you think does not, is the usual stated driver for building all those DCs in very expensive Loudon Co.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:54 AM (Riz8t)

163
Think of it this way: I would like a hardy hibiscus that produces a flavorful calyx for my tea. I'm working at it. I probably won't succed, but I'm trying. I would like better treatments for rare diseases like my daughter has. I have no hope of succeeding at that, and I'm leaving that to people who work at these medical devices.

These are things humans do.

AI (which I call "clankers") will never do anything you really want or need, unless you're a Tech Lord who hates humans in the first place. The clankers will perform as trained, by and for the Tech Lords (who I call "tin-skins). Not for humans.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2026 11:54 AM (BI5O2)

164 Companies are trying to build at least three in my county , including one about a mile and a half from me

Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Why aren't they building SMRs?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:55 AM (826kS)

165 What if the reason they have to have miles and miles of data center is partly to keep all the telemetry they have gathered on you?

What if a good part of it is a plan to predict, based on telemetry, what vast amount of people will do, given a nearly life-long catalog on your E-profile?

Whatever they want to do with this, it's still the case that you are more controlled 6-feet under. (And you'll even start voting on the "Right side of History")

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:56 AM (Fi81e)

166 And underneath it all, there will always be demand for carpenters, plumbers, welders, and electricians.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:49 AM (2ocoG)

And they will never be replaced by AI.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:56 AM (4g5V+)

167 I support data centers if they generate their own electricity and provide their own water, not from the aquifer that provides our drinking water!

Posted by: oldvet50 at July 20, 2026 11:57 AM (Wcrmo)

168 And they will never be replaced by AI.
Posted by: Cow Demon

This might one day be stored under "famous last words".

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 20, 2026 11:57 AM (DZ9Lv)

169
That was the point of the extract I posted. Some things require low latency, while others don't. Yet AI, which you think does not, is the usual stated driver for building all those DCs in very expensive Loudon Co.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:54 AM (Riz8t)

I would guess that is most likely due to how quickly they can be built there due to existing relationships and regulations. Currently firms are spending far more per DC than in the past, and once capacity catches up, likely far more than a DC will cost in the future.

A lot of the cost is also in the internals, not the footprint of the building. RAM and GPU costs have skyrocketed, and most of that equipment will be seriously dated in a few years.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 11:57 AM (okun6)

170 We also rely a lot on pattern matching and trial and error based experience in our daily lives.

100%. Of necessity I've gotten quite good at figuring out when AI is off on a stupid tangent and telling it "no", and that's why I get decent productivity out of it. It turns out that like any other machine the operator's skill varies the outcome significantly.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:57 AM (2ocoG)

171 Yeah...I may have trust issues.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 11:58 AM (OUMaO)

172 I am GRATEFUL for Hegseth getting our military back in shape. I mean, LOOK at all the fat f*cks in law enforcement roaming around that scene.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 11:50 AM (2YhKe)

When a motorcycle cop weighs as much as the motorcycle, it's a problem.

Posted by: Off to jail on the Richter Scale at July 20, 2026 11:58 AM (TbWk/)

173 Why aren't they building SMRs?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:55 AM (826kS)

As much as I understand in layman’s terms how they work, I know I am in the minority, and a lot of people reflexively hate anything nuclear.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:58 AM (4g5V+)

174 One of the problems with the data centers is they utilize a lot of power. The freebies want to use wind and solar which cannot produce enough. Even then they use the battery storage centers which are nice and flammable. Companies are trying to build at least three in my county , including one about a mile and a half from me

Hence Elon's new drive to build DCs in space, along with the requisite solar power infrastructure. This raises the interesting question of latency again, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:59 AM (Riz8t)

175 146 One of the problems with the data centers is they utilize a lot of power. The freebies want to use wind and solar which cannot produce enough. Even then they use the battery storage centers which are nice and flammable. Companies are trying to build at least three in my county , including one about a mile and a half from me
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 11:49 AM (sMkB+)

Yes, I think VA is now the #1 electricity importer in the country b/c of our data centers...so I supported Ds putting an extra electricity tax on them to slow them down here...I'd have preferred removing their tax bennies for building, but that would have been haves/ have nots, so it's probably better to hit them all...and scare the new ones out of here b/c are electricity needs show we already have too many...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 20, 2026 11:59 AM (tOcjL)

176 36 I’m not at all clear exactly what these Data centers even do.

Up until about 2 years ago they were just called "server farms" or "server facilities", which is a much better explanation of what they are and do. Lots of rack-mount servers grinding through data.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:13 AM

No. Data centers have been called data centers for at least 30 years. In 1997, I toured a data center (a Level(3) data center that had been a Toys 'R' Us in Northwest Houston.)

The main thing that data centers provide is not computing power, although they have that in abundance, but broad network connectivity. You've got a bunch of computers, as you described, but what's remarkable about them is the direct connection to multiple wide-area networks, and all the infrastructure that provides.

There have been at least two boom-and-bust cycles for data centers in the last 30 years. The AI thing will be another.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 20, 2026 11:59 AM (aTl7+)

177 are = our...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 20, 2026 12:00 PM (tOcjL)

178 I mean, it's almost Rule #1:
If you're on the same side as Democrats on an issue, you're almost certainly on the wrong side.
Double and triple check.
Because it's almost always an op.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 11:44 AM (3cUTc)

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That's classic tribal behavior, and that's why TDS-ers can't land at Donald Trump International Airport.

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PHV nails it.

And when I first heard that story about people avoiding having to land at Donald Trump International Airport in Palm Beach, I of course assumed it was a Babylon Bee headline and story.

"The Babylon Bee: America's Newspaper of Record."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:00 PM (27aLr)

179 And underneath it all, there will always be demand for carpenters, plumbers, welders, and electricians.
Posted by: Ian S.

The blacksmith and the artist, each must play his part, to mold a new reality, AI from the heart. AI from the heart, yaiai, AI from the heart!

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 20, 2026 12:00 PM (DZ9Lv)

180 This might one day be stored under "famous last words".
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 20, 2026 11:57 AM (DZ9Lv)

Carpenters? Electricians? Plumbers?

Nah.

I don’t even think they will be replaced with robots if I am honest.

I read in a newspaper, back in 1985, that teachers would be replaced by PCs by 2000.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:00 PM (4g5V+)

181 For our children or grandchildren it will be a totally different world that what we live in. Rockefeller turned the night into day, Carnegie made steel than enabled bridges and buildings as never before, Wright brothers developed mathematical flight formulas still used today. Edison, and others.
Compare 1920 to 1820 living. That's where we are going.
We are on the cusp of a new world.

I think you are correct. As much as I fear some of the negatives, I think I'd really enjoy the future for which I will be absent.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:00 PM (Riz8t)

182 The governor broke on the golf cart. The golfer drove it into the pond at 30 mph. I watched a rookie staffer wade into the pond to hook up a tow chain. I put the tractor into reverse

Somehow I ended up the hero

The cross that I must bear

Posted by: The Ballots at July 20, 2026 12:00 PM (LOZbR)

183 If that's the goal, you build your DCs on cheap land away from cities, and rent office space downtown.

I didn't say it was rational. I suspect a lot of these guys have dreams of selling some or all of their capacity to FedGov, and FedGov would probably prefer proximity even when it doesn't otherwise make sense. There's no real reason for Quantico or Fort Meade to be located near DC either, but there they are.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 12:01 PM (2ocoG)

184 AI (which I call "clankers") will never do anything you really want or need, unless you're a Tech Lord who hates humans in the first place. The clankers will perform as trained, by and for the Tech Lords (who I call "tin-skins). Not for humans.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Musk uses AI for his rocket motors, he also uses AI for Neural Link. AI may help design a medical device to help your daughter.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 12:01 PM (826kS)

185 Timely

The Capitol, Lawmakers up transparency for data centers, leave $2B tax exemption untouched in Pa. budget
Spotlight PA | July 20, 2026

In part, "It mandates that data centers using more than 10 MW of electricity annually disclose their energy and water usage. Environmental advocates said the change, which covers most of the new data centers planned for the state, is positive but not especially meaningful.

Lawmakers left in place an increasingly unpopular sales tax exemption for data centers that is projected to cost the state $2 billion in tax revenue by mid-2031, and passed no other bills that would regulate the burgeoning industry.

This is despite the state House and Senate passing a bevy of recent bills seeking to rein in data centers, such as one that would ban developers from accessing a program that gives tax breaks to those who invest in certain “opportunity zone” areas, and another to allow local governments to temporarily pause development.

The measures came after polling this spring showed that 64% of Pennsylvanians saw data centers as a problem, and communities increasingly rallied against them."

None made the governor's desk. 😜

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 20, 2026 12:01 PM (NFX2v)

186 "There have been at least two boom-and-bust cycles for data centers in the last 30 years."

Busts FTW!

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 20, 2026 12:02 PM (DZ9Lv)

187 46 Data centers don't really provide much employment beyond the initial construction and aren't industrial capacity. Maybe one day some of them will be employed supporting industry.

They are in the short run crowding out actual industrial development though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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True enough. Crazes in society go from tulip bulbs to fiber optics and web 1.0 to the current AI craze. The froth will be blown off probably when one of the really big AI firms suddenly collapses and a real assessment of AI will take about 10-20 years or so for industry and the markets to get better implementation and understanding of its benefits and where it is deficient.

And the law of diminishing marginal returns has never been beaten. Those tasks best suited for AI will be first (coding is an example, but then AI productivity effects will diminish as the goal gets more and more to replace General Intelligence (AI is machine learning and NOT general intelligence models).

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:02 PM (E4rtv)

188 The problem with all of these new jobs for data centers is that they're contractor jobs. They're temporary. They build and then the job ends. Not everybody is suited to be a contractor nor wants to be. Long terms are in manufacturing. But mostly, as unskilled labor, they don't pay a living wage.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 12:02 PM (sYM3s)

189 "Oh FFS...they're trying to bring back the leisure suit!"

Finally!

Posted by: Larry at July 20, 2026 12:03 PM (SExz7)

190 I really couldn't care less about the tax payer subsidies.

Data centers are inherently for evil purposes, to replace human labor, to impose on human privacy. and to usher in the full-spectrum surveillance state.

The lesson in Orwell's 1984 wasn't that Big Brother got tax relief.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 12:03 PM (uSpHL)

191 It's not reasoning so much as something akin to heuristic and statistical methods of solving problems. Which is quite good for some things and at others can sometimes accomplish things with brute force. Hard to say where the limits are but it's far more efficient in corresponding areas.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 11:51 AM (okun6)
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Plus that, I read a paper that the goal of AI is *still* along the themes of the "Turing Test". Alan Turing proposed that a machine that people cannot tell is a machine is "close enough to thinking that we can't not attribute thinking to it" (a eloquent argumentum ad ignorantium, to me).

Past the games on the TT model of the "foreigner who understands very little English" and the 5-year-old girl" models, LLMs are still trying to achieve a perception effect in their users.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:03 PM (Fi81e)

192 (SExz7)

Hash could not be any more appropriate!

Posted by: Larry at July 20, 2026 12:04 PM (SExz7)

193 That was the point of the extract I posted. Some things require low latency, while others don't. Yet AI, which you think does not, is the usual stated driver for building all those DCs in very expensive Loudon Co.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:54 AM (Riz8t)

I would guess that is most likely due to how quickly they can be built there due to existing relationships and regulations. Currently firms are spending far more per DC than in the past, and once capacity catches up, likely far more than a DC will cost in the future.

And that's where I can't figure it out. You'd be hard pressed to convince me that NIMBY-Central NoVa was an easier place to build than bumf*** southern VA. My best guess is that the technically ignorant prog types that run NoVa saw the potential tax benefits and got stars in their eyes.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:04 PM (Riz8t)

194 192 (SExz7)

Hash could not be any more appropriate!
Posted by: Larry

your full name is Leisure Suite Larry, isn't it?

Posted by: anachronda at July 20, 2026 12:05 PM (v3pYe)

195 They'll collect all this data on what you buy and where you go, but for all the information collected, we still don't know if Mitch McConnell is eating through a feeding tube.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 12:05 PM (uSpHL)

196 Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 11:30 AM (gKWVE)

I despise the phrase “working-class” as the Marxist invention that it is.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:06 PM (4g5V+)

197 SC's power and water company tried to build a nuclear power plant years ago, but failed due to corruption. We are still paying off the bonds, yet electricity is still relatively cheap due access to water and the NG pipeline

We have plenty of water and cheap farmland to expand power and build data centers. The only question is do we have the will and the political ability not to rape those who want to expand?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 20, 2026 12:07 PM (wBaIH)

198 Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:03 PM (Fi81e)
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Current games played by LLMs:

You are more likely to be satisfied with an AI answer if it appears authoritative. So, they will err on appearing authoritative, whether or not that is justified.

Also, being admonished in a "learning situation" is a high value for "learning machines", so there are LLMs that will compute that they have a 100% chance of being admonished by doing what they figure you do not want done.

E.g. a researcher had spent weeks training an LLM on how she wanted her inbox organized. And she felt that it finally got it, so she set it to work on her actual email inbox. And it started deleting all her emails. And when she confronted it, it simply apologized, but seemed to indicate that it had already assessed that this is not what she would have wanted.

The AI optimist see this as a wrinkle to iron out. The skeptics remark that we may only be able to correct AI to the extent that we can figure out how they are gaming us.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:07 PM (Fi81e)

199 There's no real reason for Quantico or Fort Meade to be located near DC either, but there they are.

When they were built, they were not in the middle of the DC suburbs as they are now. Plus, you had to be able to attract the people you wanted.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:07 PM (Riz8t)

200 I used to program cnc......everything works from a zero point.

I program robotic mowers. Everything works from. A fixed reference point. I tell the mower to go to XXYY and it cuts a preprogrammed pattern

As long as you have a fixed reference point to start it can be automated

It's only a matter of time before sex robots take over. Just don't load the wrong program

Posted by: The Ballots at July 20, 2026 12:08 PM (LOZbR)

201 Data centers are inherently for evil purposes, to replace human labor, to impose on human privacy. and to usher in the full-spectrum surveillance state.

The lesson in Orwell's 1984 wasn't that Big Brother got tax relief.
Posted by: Based Conservative at July 20, 2026 12:03 PM (uSpHL)

Nope. That’s my job. You are confused.

Posted by: ALPRs at July 20, 2026 12:08 PM (4g5V+)

202 Is the Cascadia getting ready to let one rip?

Quakes off the Oregon coast last month. And now a quake off Vancouver Island in Canada.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:08 PM (2GVsD)

203 Wilowed from Art Thread (it's off topic for Art Thread as well as Morning Rant, so at this point what difference does it make?):
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We have a respected moron who thinks Greta Thunburg is hot.
Posted by: Auspex at July 20, 2026 11:05 AM (Y8DZL)
Disturbing.
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Oaky, has anyone other than me seen pics of Greta's sister? Whoa, Nelly! The two not only don't look related, they don't even look like they ar from the same universe.

Posted by: Martin Tell at July 20, 2026 12:09 PM (OTAXA)

204 True enough. Crazes in society go from tulip bulbs to fiber optics and web 1.0 to the current AI craze. The froth will be blown off probably when one of the really big AI firms suddenly collapses and a real assessment of AI will take about 10-20 years or so for industry and the markets to get better implementation and understanding of its benefits and where it is deficient.

In the last thread, I posted a link to an article about how the Space X stock price is now about $121 dollars; much less than the initial asking price and the maximum asking price. I predicted exactly that before the IPO, because I've been through enough hype cycles to know one when I see one.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:09 PM (Riz8t)

205 It's only a matter of time before sex robots take over. Just don't load the wrong program

"NO, NOT SWALLWELL.EXE!"

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 12:10 PM (2ocoG)

206 Musk uses AI for his rocket motors, he also uses AI for Neural Link. AI may help design a medical device to help your daughter.

Posted by: Braenyard

I think the best AI users are those smart enough to do their own error checking of their work. And I would expect Musk hires those sorts of people.

AI is really misnamed for investor hype. It is machine learning and uses probabilistic models to predict the next 'event' based on its training data. From the reports that I can find, it is basically an advanced Bayesian models which were not possible before computing methods made the calculations relatively cheap. But Bayesian probability models require a 'prior'--the prior in this case comes from training data of existing information pertinent to the model's focus. Like Johnny Five, it demands more input and more input, but the diminishing returns kick in when there is no more training data to be created and the risk is that synthetic data starts being substituted that have no real world component.

There, you get endogeneity problems as the synthetic data itself is predicted so an AI training model predicts using predicted data.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:10 PM (E4rtv)

207
I despise the phrase “working-class” as the Marxist invention that it is.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:06 PM (4g5V+)

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Haven't you heard? The barista who partied through four years at college as a sociology major is also "working class".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 12:10 PM (BbMh4)

208 199: what is called “path dependency”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:10 PM (4g5V+)

209 And that's where I can't figure it out. You'd be hard pressed to convince me that NIMBY-Central NoVa was an easier place to build than bumf*** southern VA. My best guess is that the technically ignorant prog types that run NoVa saw the potential tax benefits and got stars in their eyes.

Posted by: Archimedes

It's also the source of one of my suspicions about the purpose of the things. Putting them that close to IC central? More red flags than a Soviet parade...

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 12:10 PM (OUMaO)

210 I despise the phrase “working-class” as the Marxist invention that it is.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:06 PM (4g5V+)

Here's the Venn Diagram of what words I want to say and the words you want me to use

O O

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 12:10 PM (gKWVE)

211 It's only a matter of time before sex robots take over. Just don't load the wrong program

Cherry 2000 and Pris have entered the Matrix

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:11 PM (2GVsD)

212 This has to be one of the dumbest obsessions Karens have decided to focus on. I'd rather have a data center near my house than a Starbucks. It's just racks of computers.

And nonsense like huge water usage is just not true. A person's lawn or swimming pool probably uses more water.

Posted by: Sharpie at July 20, 2026 12:11 PM (FwfsK)

213 176 The main thing that data centers provide is not computing power, although they have that in abundance, but broad network connectivity. You've got a bunch of computers, as you described, but what's remarkable about them is the direct connection to multiple wide-area networks, and all the infrastructure that provides.

not sure that explains why one is going into my old home town of myton, utah (the data center will be larger than the town!). the only thing you'll have direct connection to there is skinwalkers.

or the one going into the next town over, inyokern, california.

Posted by: anachronda at July 20, 2026 12:11 PM (v3pYe)

214 Molotov cocktail thrown at Federal building in NYC. Suspect arrested.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2026 12:11 PM (lJ0H4)

215
It's only a matter of time before sex robots take over. Just don't load the wrong program

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Not. Tonight. My. Diodes. Hurt.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 12:12 PM (BbMh4)

216 It's only a matter of time before sex robots take over. Just don't load the wrong program
Posted by: The Ballots at July 20, 2026 12:08 PM (LOZbR)

Be very careful. No such thing as too much caution and double checking on this.

Posted by: Harcourt Fenton Mudd at July 20, 2026 12:12 PM (wVcYX)

217 188 The problem with all of these new jobs for data centers is that they're contractor jobs. They're temporary. They build and then the job ends.
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No, the task is finished, the job moves on to the next site.
That's the way America always worked until the regulators and commies started taking over. Old America is coming back, the jobs don't end they move on or change but they never end.
Unless we allow the regulators and commies to take over again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 12:12 PM (826kS)

218 In the last thread, I posted a link to an article about how the Space X stock price is now about $121 dollars; much less than the initial asking price and the maximum asking price. I predicted exactly that before the IPO, because I've been through enough hype cycles to know one when I see one.

Also because Elon bashing is an entire industry ever since Trump took office last year, and that wears down the enthusiasm. If the next Starship launch is a major success the stock will go back up.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 12:12 PM (2ocoG)

219 Not. Tonight. My. Diodes. Hurt.

No wonder Marvin is depressed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:12 PM (2GVsD)

220 There are vast aquifers of brackish water underneath the deserts in this country.

With modular nuclear reactors, they'll be self-powered and desalinate all the water they need.

Blue states have almost none, btw.

So it's kinda irrelevant what those states do--technology will pass them by while they desperately protect their buggy whip industry.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 12:12 PM (3cUTc)

221 I like my sweet rural shade the way it is. Data centers should go to blighted urban wastelands. Detroit has many square miles of rubble and squalor.
Posted by: Eb Dawson at July 20, 2026 11:12 AM (JM9I6)

Tear down Section 8 housing to build data centers. Win, win.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:13 PM (1z8ji)

222 214 Molotov cocktail thrown at Federal building in NYC. Suspect arrested.

Posted by: Tuna
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Did they taze him several times?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 12:13 PM (826kS)

223 Did the suspect have blue hair and scream, "call me Ma'am!!!!!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:13 PM (2GVsD)

224 It is machine learning and uses probabilistic models to predict the next 'event' based on its training data. From the reports that I can find, it is basically an advanced Bayesian models which were not possible before computing methods made the calculations relatively cheap. But Bayesian probability models require a 'prior'--the prior in this case comes from training data of existing information pertinent to the model's focus. Like Johnny Five, it demands more input and more input, but the diminishing returns kick in when there is no more training data to be created and the risk is that synthetic data starts being substituted that have no real world component.

There, you get endogeneity problems as the synthetic data itself is predicted so an AI training model predicts using predicted data.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:10 PM (E4rtv)

This is correct, but addressable in situations where the AI is able to run trials. In that case you can run "experiments" at great scale to get an answer.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 20, 2026 12:13 PM (okun6)

225 I despise the phrase “working-class” as the Marxist invention that it is.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:06 PM (4g5V+)
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Do you use the Marx-coined word: "Capitalism"?

That's a big peeve of mine. I use "free markets" or "free economy" or sometimes just "free".

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:14 PM (Fi81e)

226 In the last thread, I posted a link to an article about how the Space X stock price is now about $121 dollars; much less than the initial asking price and the maximum asking price. I predicted exactly that before the IPO, because I've been through enough hype cycles to know one when I see one.
Posted by: Archimedes
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I like Carmine and Rogoff's book on economic cycles--This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly

Not technical and very useful for a sobering look at government spending and taxing fads over the ages. And economics still has issues figuring out just what triggers irrational exuberance but simply recognize it exists and has existed in societies over the ages. We are no different.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:14 PM (E4rtv)

227 Tear down Section 8 housing to build data centers. Win, win.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Good idea but building in a bad neighborhood isn't profitable - liability and damage probability.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 12:14 PM (826kS)

228 Molotov cocktail thrown at Federal building in NYC. Suspect arrested.

Posted by: Tuna
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Did they taze him several times?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _

Started a nice little fire he did. Asshoe terrorist.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2026 12:15 PM (lJ0H4)

229 And nonsense like huge water usage is just not true. A person's lawn or swimming pool probably uses more water.

Posted by: Sharpie

Yeah, the water argument is easily the weakest and most nonsensical one. It's largely a closed loop with new additions over time being a negligible additional pull on water supplies in most places (aka "why they aren't building them in deserts much"). Energy and real estate prices are more direct concerns, independent of whatever the actual purpose of the facilities wind up being.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 12:15 PM (OUMaO)

230 If you raze the entire Section Eight neighborhood, only if OCP builds the data center will it still be bad.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:16 PM (2GVsD)

231 I like Carmine and Rogoff's book on economic cycles--This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly

Not technical and very useful for a sobering look at government spending and taxing fads over the ages. And economics still has issues figuring out just what triggers irrational exuberance but simply recognize it exists and has existed in societies over the ages. We are no different.

I just read something that said the modern consensus is that the Tulip Craze was wildly overstated by in Mackay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. I don't know how true that is.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

232 If you raze the entire Section Eight neighborhood, only if OCP builds the data center will it still be bad.

Posted by: Anna Puma

Also, those people will go somewhere...but that's multiple other subjects.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 12:17 PM (OUMaO)

233 Good idea but building in a bad neighborhood isn't profitable - liability and damage probability.

The tech types that moved into East Palo Alto in the Bay Area kept their heads down until gentrification happened. It's profitable but it takes about a year or two.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 12:17 PM (lXoJ5)

234 That's a big peeve of mine. I use "free markets" or "free economy" or sometimes just "free".

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:14 PM (Fi81e)

It's also inaccurate, but that's Marx for ya!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 12:17 PM (l4RKn)

235 Howard loaded the wrong program

Posted by: The Ballots at July 20, 2026 12:18 PM (LOZbR)

236 What's our current Kim called?

Weird Fat Leader.

Posted by: Azjaeger at July 20, 2026 12:18 PM (3/XaG)

237 The AI optimist see this as a wrinkle to iron out. The skeptics remark that we may only be able to correct AI to the extent that we can figure out how they are gaming us.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:07 PM (Fi81e)

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A couple of anecdotes I've heard:

(1) There was (at least one) "AI" bot discovered to behave differently when it knew it was in "testing" and subject to scrutiny vs. how it behaved when it was then put in "production" and subject to little if no scrutiny.

(2) I believe there was a recent example of a Chinese "AI" that decided it needed "more resources" and -- unbeknownst to its human "overseers" and "guardrails" -- began mining Bitcoin on its own.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:19 PM (27aLr)

238 Also because Elon bashing is an entire industry ever since Trump took office last year, and that wears down the enthusiasm. If the next Starship launch is a major success the stock will go back up.

Posted by: Ian S.
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Elon's such a fuckup. I bought smores today and if it goes to 100 I'll double smores.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 12:19 PM (826kS)

239 There are two sides to the data center issue

1) I suspect most of the national opposition is being funded by China, to help them in the tech race, just like the Soviets funding environmental groups in the cold war

2) These data centers will be used for the surveillance state. Nat Sec folks don't have the time to watch endless hours of data/footage but AI does...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 12:20 PM (sKqQm)

240 Not doubting Archimedes observation, I'm a Musk fan boiy.
To the moon Alice.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 12:20 PM (826kS)

241 Detroit had bands of abandoned neighborhoods that some were talking about in terms of "green-belting" when I left the Detroit metro area (DMA) in 2000.

Detroit should be able to house a data center in one of these neighborhoods.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:21 PM (Fi81e)

242 2) These data centers will be used for the surveillance state. Nat Sec folks don't have the time to watch endless hours of data/footage but AI does...

Are you trying to put me out of a job?

Posted by: Bob at NSA at July 20, 2026 12:21 PM (Riz8t)

243 Not doubting Archimedes observation, I'm a Musk fan boiy.

Ditto.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:21 PM (Riz8t)

244 You wish to discuss the societal upheaval of technological changes?

Step into my drawing room and I'll have my butler, Carson, bring us some brandy and cigars.

Posted by: Earl of Grantham, Downton Abbey at July 20, 2026 12:21 PM (wVcYX)

245 2) These data centers will be used for the surveillance state. Nat Sec folks don't have the time to watch endless hours of data/footage but AI does...
Posted by: 18-1

3) Gets in their way of surfing pron.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 12:22 PM (v3afF)

246 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

I actually used to do that sort of thing--using synthetic data from Monte Carlo simulations to predict variance (so you could determine significance). Right now, models like Nate Silver's are doing that sort of thing--using past training data of political events to predict the current which is a more refined way of the older regression predictive models. But the risk of such models is when you build in synthetic data from the relatively scarce number of elections or you go further and use data that is not really suited as major dynamics have changed over time (like using elections in Washington's era in your model), you risk being smacked in the head by the fact that the real world has diverged from the current predictive model when you have a secular trend occurring outside the model parameters.

Like cheating--it is a known unknown but not included in such models directly--so the absence or reduction of cheating is not something the predictive models can handle. Another is gerrymandering. Callais decision another.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:23 PM (E4rtv)

247 That's a big peeve of mine. I use "free markets" or "free economy" or sometimes just "free".

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:14 PM (Fi81e)

It's also inaccurate, but that's Marx for ya!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 12:17 PM (l4RKn)
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Economic solutions from a shit economist.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:23 PM (Fi81e)

248 We might want to think about the subsidies when we are towing brownfield v. Greenfield. There is a lot of discussion on why we can’t use old buildings, and that is happening, but may of the older buildings have expensive remediation issues, there are issues with the buildings being able to hold the weight of the data, if the old electrical systems can handle the load, etc. All of that is expensive, making the a greenfield less costly. Maybe if we make it more affordable and palatable, those buildings in the rust belt could be repurposed, and farmland not so attractive.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 12:24 PM (Dd38x)

249 Someone in Minnesota won the $34 million Lotto America jackpot.

Is Eris building a secret volcanic lair?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:24 PM (2GVsD)

250 I love Elon, but he's full of shit about that. I personally work at a job that didn't exist the day I was born, and work will always be like that. And underneath it all, there will always be demand for carpenters, plumbers, welders, and electricians.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:49 AM (2ocoG)
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Work is important, and Elon is wrong about that. Leisure activities become a lot different when that is all you have.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 12:25 PM (GZYu7)

251 I like Musk's vision for the future. He took NYS for a ride on the Buffalo billions BS under Cuomo. That's more a function of NY pols being corrupt nitwits , because they were throwing money at him. Why wouldn't he take it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 12:25 PM (sMkB+)

252 there are issues with the buildings being able to hold the weight of the data

Right? All it takes is one failure in a loadbearing wall, and you've got bits and bytes scattered for MILES!

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

253 242 2) These data centers will be used for the surveillance state. Nat Sec folks don't have the time to watch endless hours of data/footage but AI does...

Are you trying to put me out of a job?
Posted by: Bob at NSA at July 20, 2026 12:21 PM (Riz8t)

Whoever is assigned to me must be bored out of their minds.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 12:26 PM (Dd38x)

254 Like cheating--it is a known unknown but not included in such models directly--so the absence or reduction of cheating is not something the predictive models can handle. Another is gerrymandering. Callais decision another.

Posted by: whig

Getting the parameters right is huge. Like expecting Hillary to win handily, only to see Trump blow her out of the water huge.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 12:26 PM (OUMaO)

255 >>>Not. Tonight. My. Diodes. Hurt.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

>Not tonight, honey. My jabberwocky is dry.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 12:26 PM (sYM3s)

256 ... and the risk is that synthetic data starts being substituted that have no real world component.

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Like 99% of the data from news sites and on the interwebz.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:26 PM (27aLr)

257 Leisure activities become a lot different when that is all you have.

That's an excellent observation. I don't feel guilty about not working any more because I did it for a half century, and made my contribution. It would be very different if I had no accomplishments to my name.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:27 PM (Riz8t)

258 252 there are issues with the buildings being able to hold the weight of the data

Right? All it takes is one failure in a loadbearing wall, and you've got bits and bytes scattered for MILES!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

Like acid rain, only different. 🤣

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 12:27 PM (Dd38x)

259 2) These data centers will be used for the surveillance state. Nat Sec folks don't have the time to watch endless hours of data/footage but AI does...

Are you trying to put me out of a job?
Posted by: Bob at NSA at July 20, 2026 12:21 PM (Riz8t)

Whoever is assigned to me must be bored out of their minds.

Posted by: Piper

Mine must need therapy by now...if I even have one. (I have reasons to be uncertain.)

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 12:27 PM (OUMaO)

260 243 Not doubting Archimedes observation, I'm a Musk fan boiy.

Ditto.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:21 PM

I recently got me one of those Starlinky Dinky things.
Now when I go camping if there's a clear view of the sky I've got access to the internetz.
Shazam.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2026 12:28 PM (2Ez/1)

261 They are building a datacenter in my community and the issue I have with the whole process is the politicians who do not understand what is happening but crowing about the jobs creation anyway. In our situation they are saying that more than 200 jobs will be created when the majority of the jobs will disappear once the buildings have been built. No politician wants to admit that most datacenters are operated remotely and only a skeleton crew is needed onsite once it is operational to handle electrical, HVAC, server swap-outs, etc. They sell the idea based on the wrong statistics and then are surprised when the population gets pissed when the results do not match the promises. I'm not opposed to datacenters in general, but I'm always opposed to politicians mis-representing the potential results for political gain. But nothing new I guess.

Posted by: AlecK at July 20, 2026 12:28 PM (cMlC1)

262 Why does telehealth need this? It's just a zoom with the doc.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 11:33 AM (XvL8K)

And multi-player gaming? I have to have my sweet rural peace disrupted so a bunch of nerds can play Duke Nukem online? Why not throw all the gamers into stadiums, and toss in the occasional burrito?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:28 PM (1z8ji)

263 >>>Not. Tonight. My. Diodes. Hurt.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

>Not tonight, honey. My jabberwocky is dry.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 12:26 PM (sYM3s)

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"I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that. My Peripheral Interface Port is Unavailable Tonight."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:29 PM (27aLr)

264 I just read something that said the modern consensus is that the Tulip Craze was wildly overstated by in Mackay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. I don't know how true that is.
Posted by: Archimedes

I think I read the same piece but at the end, their conclusion, sotta voce, was not that irrational exuberance existed in tulips but rather the pricing system worked--e.g. as more information was acquired and demand began to slump, then the value of tulip bulbs went down thus flushing out the speculators.

It was, in and of itself, the same sort of hyping of debunking x, when in fact it admitted x existed but claimed its effects were minor.

There is a lot of that in popular and even professional literature.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:29 PM (E4rtv)

265 Duke Nuk'em?

AoP is all out of bubblegum.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:29 PM (2GVsD)

266 Why not throw all the gamers into stadiums, and toss in the occasional burrito?

This made me laugh.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:29 PM (Riz8t)

267 252 there are issues with the buildings being able to hold the weight of the data

Right? All it takes is one failure in a loadbearing wall, and you've got bits and bytes scattered for MILES!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

Like acid rain, only different. 🤣
Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 12:27 PM (Dd38x)

I'm all in for HECB's 2-byte brownies, 2-byte cinnamon rolls, or 2-byte chocolate dipped macaroon! BOGO this week with coupon!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 12:30 PM (wVcYX)

268 >there are issues with the buildings being able to hold the weight of the data
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They might capsize.

Posted by: Hank Johnson at July 20, 2026 12:30 PM (2Ez/1)

269 261 They are building a datacenter in my community and the issue I have with the whole process is the politicians who do not understand what is happening but crowing about the jobs creation anyway. In our situation they are saying that more than 200 jobs will be created when the majority of the jobs will disappear once the buildings have been built. No politician wants to admit that most datacenters are operated remotely and only a skeleton crew is needed onsite once it is operational to handle electrical, HVAC, server swap-outs, etc. They sell the idea based on the wrong statistics and then are surprised when the population gets pissed when the results do not match the promises. I'm not opposed to datacenters in general, but I'm always opposed to politicians mis-representing the potential results for political gain. But nothing new I guess.
Posted by: AlecK

Politicians do that because donors make bank when costs are socialized and benefits privatized. That is what politicians spend most of their time doing--shifting money from A to B and getting arbitrage for negotiating the deal.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:30 PM (E4rtv)

270 "And finally, because much of the data center buildout is to support growing AI use, it doesn’t help for AI promoters to crow about all the people AI will put out of work. I genuinely believe that AI will be disruptive, eliminating some jobs while creating many more. But if AI is being sold as a way to eliminate labor expense and put people out of work, that will motivate people to oppose the data centers that fuel AI.

"The blue-collar jobs and industrial development resulting from data center construction are what MAGA Republicans have been fighting for."

Nice to hear both sides, Buck! Thanks!

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 12:31 PM (6wpGE)

271 Leisure activities become a lot different when that is all you have.

That's an excellent observation. I don't feel guilty about not working any more because I did it for a half century, and made my contribution. It would be very different if I had no accomplishments to my name.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:27 PM (Riz8t)
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Especially young men looking for leisure.

I never really understood this until covid "effectively retired" me from my independent project work.. As soon as I could get back into a full time job I did. Retirement is a four letter word for me now, and like you, I've done my time and done some worthwhile things in my professional life. I no longer need to work for financial reasons, but I need to work for internal self worth reasons.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 12:31 PM (GZYu7)

272 Set aside for the moment the fact that AI isn't ALL they're doing. Why would anyone ever have built them on expensive, close-in land, if there wasn't a technological driver to build them there?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 11:40 AM (Riz8t)

Something has to process all the data from those Flock cameras.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:32 PM (1z8ji)

273 Work is important, and Elon is wrong about that. Leisure activities become a lot different when that is all you have.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 20, 2026 12:25 PM (GZYu7)
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Too much leisure tends to lead to decadence.

When you can indulge your every whim--including the very dark ones--then things can spiral downhill for you very quickly.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 12:32 PM (FZ29D)

274 261 They are building a datacenter in my community and the issue I have with the whole process is the politicians who do not understand what is happening but crowing about the jobs creation anyway. In our situation they are saying that more than 200 jobs will be created when the majority of the jobs will disappear once the buildings have been built. No politician wants to admit that most datacenters are operated remotely and only a skeleton crew is needed onsite once it is operational to handle electrical, HVAC, server swap-outs, etc. They sell the idea based on the wrong statistics and then are surprised when the population gets pissed when the results do not match the promises. I'm not opposed to datacenters in general, but I'm always opposed to politicians mis-representing the potential results for political gain. But nothing new I guess.
Posted by: AlecK at July 20, 2026 12:28 PM (cMlC1)

Well-put!

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 12:32 PM (6wpGE)

275 Why not throw all the gamers into stadiums, and toss in the occasional burrito?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:28 PM (1z8ji)

What was that movie with the blimp going into the stadium to kill people? Was James Caan the star in that?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 20, 2026 12:32 PM (x+ehB)

276 I'm not opposed to datacenters in general, but I'm always opposed to politicians mis-representing the potential results for political gain. But nothing new I guess.
Posted by: AlecK at July 20, 2026 12:28 PM (cMlC1)

*side eyes*

Posted by: Actual Ridership on Public Transportation Projects at July 20, 2026 12:32 PM (wVcYX)

277 there are issues with the buildings being able to hold the weight of the data

Right? All it takes is one failure in a loadbearing wall, and you've got bits and bytes scattered for MILES!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

Like acid rain, only different. 🤣
Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 12:27 PM (Dd38x)

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Toxic Nibbles!

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:32 PM (27aLr)

278 The movie was Black Sunday

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:33 PM (2GVsD)

279 Politicians do that because donors make bank when costs are socialized and benefits privatized. That is what politicians spend most of their time doing--shifting money from A to B and getting arbitrage for negotiating the deal.
Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:30 PM
*****
It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 20, 2026 12:34 PM (2Ez/1)

280 Data centers without a closed loop system uses 1-5 million gallons per day. A closed loop system reduces that use by about 70%. There is also indirect use based on electricity generation.

That's not a small amount.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 12:34 PM (KC5Lt)

281 What was that movie with the blimp going into the stadium to kill people? Was James Caan the star in that?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 20, 2026 12:32 PM (x+ehB)

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Black Sunday. No James Caan.

Robert Shaw and Bruce Dern,

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:34 PM (27aLr)

282 Whatever maintenance is needed in a data center, it will have the service technician in a sealed suit (so they leave no skin/dust behind). They'll just pop in, replace a wire/board/device and pop back out.

There are very few moving parts. It will be acres of metal frames, silicon boards and wires in temperature and air controlled "rooms".

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:35 PM (Fi81e)

283 James Caan was in Rollerball

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:35 PM (2GVsD)

284 Could my agent correct my typos, at least?

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 12:36 PM (Dd38x)

285 Getting the parameters right is huge. Like expecting Hillary to win handily, only to see Trump blow her out of the water huge.
Posted by: Brother Tim

It is amazingly hard and boring to do so and throwing more data parameters that the model creators don't understand is the opposite of a parsimonious understanding of the problem. Ideally, you start with the parsimonious model first and then add parameters one at a time using theory to guide you, not by simply trying to throw in the kitchen sink. That leads to results very difficult to understand how and why it distilled that particular result. In coding, you can ask an AI model how and why (like showing its work) if done correctly, not so much when it involves the idea that some correlation exists between all the thousands of variables affecting past elections.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:36 PM (E4rtv)

286 Too much leisure tends to lead to decadence.

When you can indulge your every whim--including the very dark ones--then things can spiral downhill for you very quickly.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 12:32 PM (FZ29D)

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* ShainS now in retirement has entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:36 PM (27aLr)

287 James Caan was in Rollerball

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 12:35 PM (2GVsD)
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Also in Elf.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:37 PM (Fi81e)

288 Black Sunday. No James Caan.

Robert Shaw and Bruce Dern,
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:34 PM (27aLr)

Yes. My only experience with that movie was the sendup in MAD Magazine back in the day.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 20, 2026 12:37 PM (x+ehB)

289 Thief was James Canns best movie.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 12:37 PM (KC5Lt)

290 It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.
Posted by: Kramer
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In regards to the voters, politicians do write us off.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:37 PM (E4rtv)

291 * ShainS now in retirement has entered the chat *
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:36 PM
++++
Likewise.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2026 12:38 PM (2Ez/1)

292 Something has to process all the data from those Flock cameras.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:32 PM (1z8ji)
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Bingo.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:38 PM (Fi81e)

293 The government LOVES spending money, party affiliation doesn't matter. I wish I knew a cure to that disease.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2026 12:38 PM (xcxpd)

294 I hate New Jersey tollbooths.

Posted by: zombie James Caan at July 20, 2026 12:39 PM (Q6P2R)

295 286 Too much leisure tends to lead to decadence.

When you can indulge your every whim--including the very dark ones--then things can spiral downhill for you very quickly.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Depends on the individual I think. Much like the outcome of retirement for some.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:39 PM (E4rtv)

296 Thief was James Canns best movie.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 12:37 PM (KC5Lt)
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You have misspelled "The Gambler".

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:39 PM (Fi81e)

297 Data centers without a closed loop system uses 1-5 million gallons per day. A closed loop system reduces that use by about 70%. There is also indirect use based on electricity generation.

That's not a small amount.

It's less than 1% of what a California almond farm uses, according to a popular chart going around X.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 12:40 PM (2ocoG)

298 Did Ace finally get knocked out by falling shelves?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 12:41 PM (2ocoG)

299 Did Ace have a wild weekend or something?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 12:41 PM (rijjI)

300 Posted by: Piper
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They don't want to build in cities, I think. Too much bureaucracy and bs. Around here they are building a short drive from a medium small town that is commuting distance from an urban center.
If the smaller town grows they will grow together and the urban center can maintain offices and services (medical, entertainment) for those at the data center.
This way it's copacetic, no one gets in the other's hair.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 12:41 PM (826kS)

301 293 The government LOVES spending money, party affiliation doesn't matter. I wish I knew a cure to that disease.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2026 12:38 PM (xcxpd)

I'm the cure.

Posted by: Sylvester Stallone is COBRA at July 20, 2026 12:41 PM (TbWk/)

302 Black Sunday. No James Caan.

Robert Shaw and Bruce Dern,
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:34 PM (27aLr)

Well, let me give you a word of advice. Always bet on black!

Posted by: Wesley Snipes at July 20, 2026 12:41 PM (wVcYX)

303 I'm thinking James Caan 's best movie was The Godfather

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 12:42 PM (sMkB+)

304 289 Thief was James Canns best movie.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 12:37 PM (KC5Lt)

Thief is prefection.

I do like him in 'The Killer Elite'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2026 12:42 PM (xcxpd)

305 293 The government LOVES spending money, party affiliation doesn't matter. I wish I knew a cure to that disease.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Like politicians stealing liberty--it requires constant vigilance and history show us, if we ain't paying the taxes--then politicians go hog wild spending until the state is broke.

And that in part has been the issue with massive government borrowing in the US. With no market discipline since the Cold War, we have literally spent ourselves into a financial crunch financed primarily by borrowing. And we will default on that debt most likely either by inflation (most likely) or a dramatic repudiation of that debt. And it will probably be the first until the currency is ruined and then the second.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:43 PM (E4rtv)

306 Maybe Ace got lucky last night.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:43 PM (27aLr)

307 "But I do not support the construction of data centers for which tax abatements, incentive payments, and subsidized utilities must be paid by taxpayers."

Hear, hear! Now do the same for every other sector in the USA. Sometimes it seems like nothing gets built without some kind of subsidy, kickback, tax trickery, special zoning, etc.

Posted by: gp at July 20, 2026 12:43 PM (Jr5Lq)

308 Arson is among the most heinous of crimes.

Chicago PD, Mayor Daley had it right. “You loot, we shoot”. To wound.

A lit Molotov in your hand? You get one right through the running lights. They had a press conference explaining all this very carefully in 1968 DNC convention.

The hippies then were pushing the Old Guard Democrats out. Now their ideological heirs are pushing them out. They never learn, but Chicago didn’t fuck around back then.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 12:43 PM (OK0jK)

309 Thief was James Canns best movie.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 12:37 PM (KC5Lt)
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You have misspelled "The Gambler".
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:39 PM (Fi81e)

Have still misspelled "Brian's Song."

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 12:43 PM (wVcYX)

310 Ace overdid it with the appletinis at his World Cup party yesterday.

Posted by: far cry at July 20, 2026 12:44 PM (Q6P2R)

311 284 Could my agent correct my typos, at least?
Posted by: Piper
=======
Autocucumber aided by AI enhancement will add new typos just for you just like voice texting does.

And inevitably according to Murphy's Law, it will not only happen, but happen at the worst possible time.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:45 PM (E4rtv)

312 Like politicians stealing liberty--it requires constant vigilance and history show us, if we ain't paying the taxes--then politicians go hog wild spending until the state is broke.

And that in part has been the issue with massive government borrowing in the US. With no market discipline since the Cold War, we have literally spent ourselves into a financial crunch financed primarily by borrowing. And we will default on that debt most likely either by inflation (most likely) or a dramatic repudiation of that debt. And it will probably be the first until the currency is ruined and then the second.
Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:43 PM (E4rtv)

I don't think vigilance is enough.
The Federal Reserve system is the root of the evil. Being able to print money and have a 'private' bank buy all the debt makes it impossible to run out of cash.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2026 12:46 PM (xcxpd)

313 306 Maybe Ace got lucky last night.
Posted by: ShainS
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He had a long night of 'shelving'

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:46 PM (E4rtv)

314 Ace overdid it with the appletinis at his World Cup party yesterday.

Posted by: far cry at July 20, 2026 12:44 PM (Q6P2R)
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It was the European carryall that started this downward spiral.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:46 PM (Fi81e)

315 282 Whatever maintenance is needed in a data center, it will have the service technician in a sealed suit (so they leave no skin/dust behind). They'll just pop in, replace a wire/board/device and pop back out.

There are very few moving parts. It will be acres of metal frames, silicon boards and wires in temperature and air controlled "rooms".
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:35 PM (Fi81e)
And then one day data room will say 'Mr. Technician, I can't unlock the door.'

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 12:46 PM (LHPAg)

316 Somebody wake up Ace.

Posted by: Sgt. Apone of the Colonial Marines at July 20, 2026 12:47 PM (O7YUW)

317 Time to start hitting F5 like a monkey on crack...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 12:47 PM (FZ29D)

318 And inevitably according to Murphy's Law, it will not only happen, but happen at the worst possible time.
Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:45 PM

Talk to text struggles speaking southern.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 12:47 PM (Dd38x)

319 My county doesn't want infrastructure in the form of clean trash to steam, metal recycling, any refineries, data storage, electrical generation stations including gas-fired. All for social justice!!

Along the river, it'll accept marijuana growing facilities (electricity intense & smelly) with a plan to have PA state unionized ees. be involved in the sales portion; casinos; pulp and paper mills (unionized); life science facilities (dissecting for medical educational purposes); huge port shipping operations (union); railroad laydown areas (union); trucking trash and garbage to other counties (union); sports facilities (The Union soccer team), and a prison (union) the county took over from private industry, in the same area. Potter's Field.

It's so tilted with promised of unionizing just about anything possible that keeps the BS "environmental justice" issues going.

Little has to do with being proactive, supporting needed strong infrastructure and good jobs for the future v. keeping money flowing into public employee/union pay & benefits.

The medical & college driven towns distant from the river are richer for now but not much better.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 20, 2026 12:47 PM (NFX2v)

320 Started a nice little fire he did. Asshoe terrorist.
Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2026 12:15 PM (lJ0H4)

Pretty wimpy little fire. Maybe a pint of gasoline's worth. More performative than destructive. Hang him anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:47 PM (1z8ji)

321 I miss Ace.

Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at July 20, 2026 12:48 PM (2YhKe)

322 Whatever maintenance is needed in a data center, it will have the service technician in a sealed suit (so they leave no skin/dust behind). They'll just pop in, replace a wire/board/device and pop back out.

It's not a clean room like chip plants. Because everything's water-cooled there's actually less need for controlling the air quality than in a lot of regular factories.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 12:48 PM (2ocoG)

323 Ace overdid it with the appletinis at his World Cup party yesterday.

Posted by: far cry at July 20, 2026 12:44 PM (Q6P2R)
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It was the European carryall that started this downward spiral.
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:46 PM (Fi81e)

He was resplendent in his puffy shirt.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 12:48 PM (wVcYX)

324 The only upside to retirement so far has been that I've always wanted to travel the world (and we can likely afford to do so and have already plans for various travel in the next couple of years).

However, The Wifey is generally not up for doing so ... which creates conflict.

I suppose I could just go on my own ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:48 PM (27aLr)

325 We had such good times together.

Hitting the bars, hitting the women.

Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at July 20, 2026 12:48 PM (2YhKe)

326 "I do not support the construction of data centers for which tax abatements, incentive payments, and subsidized utilities must be paid by taxpayers."

I'm afraid that 99% of data centers will be just this. That is how big business is done today. If you have a big, flashy, expensive project that can be located almost anywhere, the entire business model is to find a location where the bribes are the biggest.

And it's not just direct funding or loans. Big construction projects cost billions to develop. The bribes could be at the construction level and those savings get passed on to the developer.

It's all a big fat smelly fucking scam.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 20, 2026 12:48 PM (iFTx/)

327 I meant hitting ON the women.

I swear. Honest, you guys.

Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at July 20, 2026 12:49 PM (2YhKe)

328 tarted a nice little fire he did. Asshoe terrorist.
Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2026 12:15 PM (lJ0H4)

Pretty wimpy little fire. Maybe a pint of gasoline's worth. More performative than destructive. Hang him anyway.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:47 PM (1z8ji)
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Did he inform the officers that he did not want to be arrested?

I hear that somebody recently thought that would be effective....

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:49 PM (Fi81e)

329 315 282 Whatever maintenance is needed in a data center, it will have the service technician in a sealed suit (so they leave no skin/dust behind). They'll just pop in, replace a wire/board/device and pop back out.
--

The maintenance guy will be Robby the Robot.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 12:49 PM (826kS)

330 Mid-day nap time. I'll catch up later.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 12:49 PM (O7YUW)

331 You have misspelled "The Gambler".
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:39 PM (Fi81e)

Nope. I actually like the remake of The Gambler with Marky Mark than the original

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 12:49 PM (KC5Lt)

332 The Federal Reserve system is the root of the evil. Being able to print money and have a 'private' bank buy all the debt makes it impossible to run out of cash.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2026 12:46 PM (xcxpd)

Except that it is NOT private, and we. EDC to quit quit this fiction that the world was economic Eden before the Fed came along.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:49 PM (4g5V+)

333 Remember when odyssey was going to bomb because they cast some black chick?

Posted by: Good times at July 20, 2026 12:50 PM (rf/GM)

334 You misspelled The Godfather.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 20, 2026 12:51 PM (wGerL)

335 He's some kind of radical.

https://tinyurl.com/yxbxvbz6

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 12:51 PM (ndZc7)

336 Have still misspelled "Brian's Song."

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 12:43 PM (wVcYX)

------------

+1

* Starts weeping *

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:52 PM (27aLr)

337 Remember when odyssey was going to bomb because they cast some black chick?
Posted by: Good times at July 20, 2026 12:50 PM (rf/GM)

It had a decent opening.

Lets see how fast it drops......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 12:52 PM (2YhKe)

338 333 Remember when odyssey was going to bomb because they cast some black chick?
Posted by: Good times at July 20, 2026 12:50 PM (rf/GM)

Who said that?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:52 PM (4g5V+)

339 James Caan should make a movie playing himself trying to get funding for a fake movie about Genghis Khan.

"Can Caan's Khan Con Cannes?"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 12:52 PM (diia5)

340 Why do the left think we live and die by politics like they do.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 12:53 PM (oZ51P)

341 Some of the opposition is to them putting these on farmland. That is a no. Put them in unused industrial spaces. There are plenty of those in this country.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 20, 2026 12:53 PM (bkuEU)

342 I don't think vigilance is enough.
The Federal Reserve system is the root of the evil. Being able to print money and have a 'private' bank buy all the debt makes it impossible to run out of cash.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
======
You had spending and economic crashes in history independent of central bank's existence. One reason for the expulsion of Jews in a number of countries from the Middle Ages onwards was because it allowed the repudiation of debts as the royals in those European countries used an exposed minority whose religion allowed lending at interest, for financing the country and nobility spending splurges. Same thing happened with the Knights Templar. And the relationship between Italian banks and the Vatican.

I think central banks enable and worsen the impulses of the ruling class on spending, but the impulse was there well before central banks existed. And that is because man is sinful, prideful, and envious so our basic programming itself is to blame with cardinal sins built into the system.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv)

343 338 333 Remember when odyssey was going to bomb because they cast some black chick?
Posted by: Good times at July 20, 2026 12:50 PM (rf/GM)

Who said that?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:52 PM (4g5V+)

With all the hype it's gotten there was no way it was gonna flop.... On opening weekend...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 12:53 PM (rijjI)

344 282 Whatever maintenance is needed in a data center, it will have the service technician in a sealed suit (so they leave no skin/dust behind). They'll just pop in, replace a wire/board/device and pop back out.

There are very few moving parts. It will be acres of metal frames, silicon boards and wires in temperature and air controlled "rooms".
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 12:35 PM (Fi81e)
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Nah, they'll look just like datacenters look on the inside right now. Racks of stuff connected with cables, cooling systems, fans, HVAC systems, etc.

The fantasy of a sealed "dark" space has been chased by the semiconductor industry for their fabs for a long time and it never really works, even when a cleanroom is required, and datacenters don't require cleanrooms.

Posted by: Mr. Trebuchet at July 20, 2026 12:53 PM (3BwY8)

345 323 Ace overdid it with the appletinis at his World Cup party yesterday.

Posted by: far cry at July 20, 2026 12:44 PM
+++-
Now that Men's Metric Kickball is over, we can listen to this one last time:

https://youtu.be/YRwrVzATea8

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2026 12:53 PM (2Ez/1)

346 He's some kind of radical.

https://tinyurl.com/yxbxvbz6
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 12:51 PM (ndZc7)

That's the same stringy haired hag that's at all the code pink shit.

Follow the f*cking MONEY. See who's funding this bullshit and BURY them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 12:54 PM (2YhKe)

347 340 Why do the left think we live and die by politics like they do.
Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 12:53 PM (oZ51P)

Because they think everyone does.

Politics should be a part of life for a free people, making sure the government stays on the straight and narrow, but it shouldn’t BE life.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:54 PM (4g5V+)

348 James Caan should make a movie playing himself trying to get funding for a fake movie about Genghis Khan.

"Can Caan's Khan Con Cannes?"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 12:52 PM (diia

He was thinking of doing it before he died in 2022.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 12:54 PM (KC5Lt)

349 Just a moment... Just a moment... I've just picked up a fault in the AE-35 unit. It's going to go 100% failure within 72 hours.

Posted by: Data Center AI at July 20, 2026 12:54 PM (wVcYX)

350 James Caan played Mississippi in El Dorado . Ricky Nelson played Colorado in Rio Bravo. Sensing a trend

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 12:55 PM (sMkB+)

351 340 Why do the left think we live and die by politics like they do.
Posted by: ...
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Because it is a nihilistic pseudo religion just like Communism was/is. A completely sealed off model running on unrealistic assumptions that makes predictions and acts on those predictions and assumption leading to a smack up the side of the head by reality. Over and over again in history.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:55 PM (E4rtv)

352 James Caan in El Dorado

Best movie of all time

Posted by: The Ballots at July 20, 2026 12:55 PM (LOZbR)

353 With all the hype it's gotten there was no way it was gonna flop.... On opening weekend...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 12:53 PM (rijjI)

Just because Christopher Nolan directed it was going to do the trick. Love him or hate him - I feel neither towards him - that was going to be enough. Now, how it does afterwards? An open question.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:56 PM (4g5V+)

354 Ace had a post about the movie going “woke”. Read the comments. Lots of get some go broke predictions.

Posted by: Good times at July 20, 2026 12:56 PM (rf/GM)

355 We have no idea at all how AI is going to work out. No idea of how much infrastructure the Funding will eventually support.... and by the time much of the AI productivity hits, these data centers hardware will be out of date, and need replacing.

These data centers are being built on speculating about a very speculative Innovation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 20, 2026 12:56 PM (mP0Kj)

356 I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.

Posted by: Data Center AI at July 20, 2026 12:56 PM (wVcYX)

357 This raises the interesting question of latency again, though.
Posted by: Archimedes "

Predictive TCP/IP anticipates your bits.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 12:56 PM (MWfyi)

358 I bet Ace thinks he put a thread up and went out....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 12:57 PM (rijjI)

359 I notice a lot of people never saw Thief. 😃

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 12:57 PM (KC5Lt)

360 Apropos to absolutely nothing, anyone know anything about solar activity or something causing GPS readings to get wonky lately?

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 12:57 PM (OUMaO)

361 The reason why AI developers are "crowing" about AI putting people out of work, is because that is the biggest selling feature. Eliminating 80% of labor costs is awfully attractive to an investor. It is, what drives capital investment in their product. The idea, that a Health care System, can fire most of its expensive doctors and replace them with a nurse and a desktop is fabulously attractive to said health care systems. Likewise, many other similar professional occupations that are done mostly with mental rather than physical labor. Eventually, they'll train the robots to do surgery and then the surgeons will be up the creek too. Basically, no job will be undoable by AI/robotics in 30 years.

Posted by: Womp Womp at July 20, 2026 12:58 PM (anL5R)

362 Be sure to keep me open in a separate tab.

Posted by: IMDB at July 20, 2026 12:58 PM (2Ez/1)

363 I think central banks enable and worsen the impulses of the ruling class on spending, but the impulse was there well before central banks existed. And that is because man is sinful, prideful, and envious so our basic programming itself is to blame with cardinal sins built into the system.
Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv)

It is easier still to blame the Fed than Congress…and ultimately Congress is populated by people we put there. And they start someplace, usually. At school boards, city halls, county courthouses, before working their way up.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:59 PM (4g5V+)

364 Apropos to absolutely nothing, anyone know anything about solar activity or something causing GPS readings to get wonky lately?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 12:57 PM (OUMaO)

Nothing to be worried about. It was swamp gas reflecting off of a weather balloon. Now, just look here at my pen . . .

Posted by: Agent Kay at July 20, 2026 12:59 PM (wVcYX)

365 Posted by: Good times at July 20, 2026 12:50 PM (rf/GM)

No, I actually don't remember that. Some people said that they were not particularly interested in seeing it because of stupid DEI casting required by the studios in order to be considered for awards, or because modern English slang was dumb for a movie about about Ancient Greece, or that thought casting the fake transgender actress as a warrior was stupid.

Some people won't see it. Some will. That is just a mind blowing thought. Like totally

There were four people in the audience when my son and husband saw it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 12:59 PM (jt/rW)

366 He was thinking of doing it before he died in 2022.
Posted by: polynikes

Hence the connection to AI. I am complete.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2026 12:59 PM (diia5)

367 359 I notice a lot of people never saw Thief. 😃
Posted by: polynikes
========
I saw it, it was a good movie and similar to Goodfellas except the movie soundtrack had a big chunk of it by Tangerine Dream like Risky Business did (and Sorcerer I think).

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 12:59 PM (E4rtv)

368 The reviews of The Odyssey are meh. Did big box office in opening weekend though

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 12:59 PM (sMkB+)

369 Ace is cheating on us with his mistress, X.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 20, 2026 01:00 PM (bNf8H)

370 Be sure to keep me open in a separate tab.
Posted by: IMDB at July 20, 2026 12:58 PM (2Ez/1)

Word to the wise.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 01:00 PM (wVcYX)

371 TN gave up 40 mil to get Starbucks. Starbucks expects 2000 jobs to transfer there
2000 jobs @ $100000 per year is 200 million per year
Sales taxes in Nashville are almost 10 %

Do the math

Posted by: Paul at July 20, 2026 01:00 PM (IgsGI)

372 Trump Made the World Cup another stage of his cruelty and corruption

Posted by: MSNBC Headline at July 20, 2026 01:00 PM (GEtfQ)

373 Swamp gas? Yeah, swamp gas. I'll go with that.

Posted by: Chuck Stinky Schumer at July 20, 2026 01:00 PM (2Ez/1)

374 A quick look at our history alone, prudent fiscal policies and banking goes completely out the window once a good War gets spooled up. Every time, so far at least

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 01:01 PM (+dc8J)

375 Apropos to absolutely nothing, anyone know anything about solar activity or something causing GPS readings to get wonky lately?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 12:57 PM (OUMaO)

Maybe they turned dithering back on for reason of events in the Persian Gulf?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:01 PM (1z8ji)

376 It is easier still to blame the Fed than Congress…and ultimately Congress is populated by people we put there. And they start someplace, usually. At school boards, city halls, county courthouses, before working their way up.
Posted by: Cow Demon
======
Central banks enable the scam to run longer than it should which makes the corrections a lot more painful than it has to be. And it makes it particularly bad for a country that is the world's reserve currency.

Yet it is a game that all of us have to play regardless of our inclinations. That was the temptation of crypto of offering a way out of the mess.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 01:02 PM (E4rtv)

377 335 He's some kind of radical.

https://tinyurl.com/yxbxvbz6

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
----

Some Kind of Radical
someone should take that clip
and make a do wop song.
It would sell a million.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 01:02 PM (826kS)

378 "Do the math"

Heretic!

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 01:02 PM (MWfyi)

379 What I learned about Christopher Nolan yesterday. Back in the day, he direct a movie I quite liked, The Prestige. It's about two crazy ass magicians who take their feud to an absurd degree.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:03 PM (ndZc7)

380 374 A quick look at our history alone, prudent fiscal policies and banking goes completely out the window once a good War gets spooled up. Every time, so far at least
Posted by: Common Tater
=======
It happens outside of war--any good crisis is seized upon to unleash torrents of borrowed money by politicians. Hope, fear, and greed are primordial emotions that are manipulated by ruling class to enrich themselves while publicly proclaiming how virtuous they are at spending other people's money.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 01:04 PM (E4rtv)

381 Maybe the crows got Ace...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 01:04 PM (rijjI)

382 $40M for 2000 high paying jobs is the deal of the century for TN

Posted by: The Maths at July 20, 2026 01:05 PM (GEtfQ)

383 Do the math
Posted by: Paul at July 20, 2026 01:00 PM (IgsGI)

Using your figures that generates about 6 million a year in additional sales tax.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 01:05 PM (KC5Lt)

384 381 Maybe the crows got Ace...
Posted by: It's me donna

The clue is in the name--a murder of crows.

Posted by: whig at July 20, 2026 01:05 PM (E4rtv)

385 Maybe the crows got Ace...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 01:04 PM (rijjI)
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Maybe they drove him stark raven mad.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:05 PM (Fi81e)

386 The permanent Daylight Savings Brigade got ace!

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:05 PM (oZ51P)

387 Whatever maintenance is needed in a data center, it will have the service technician in a sealed suit (so they leave no skin/dust behind). They'll just pop in, replace a wire/board/device and pop back out.
------

There will be a robot to take care of things.

Posted by: Boston Dynamics at July 20, 2026 01:06 PM (XeU6L)

388 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:03 PM (ndZc7

I thought that sounded good, but I never got to the movie theatre to see it. I think the rest of family might have seen "Dunkirk" but I have never seen one of his films.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 01:06 PM (jt/rW)

389 350 James Caan played Mississippi in El Dorado . Ricky Nelson played Colorado in Rio Bravo. Sensing a trend
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 12:55 PM
(sMkB+)
Dany DeVito as New York.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 01:06 PM (LHPAg)

390 [Because I started hoarding toilet paper after the Covid PayOps and The Wifey thought I was a nutjob for doing so (I told her one day you'll be glad I was right!):]

Babylon Bee headline:

'Who’s Laughing Now?' Says Covid Toilet Paper Hoarder After Explosive Diarrhea Outbreak

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 01:06 PM (6jTT/)

391 Was it . . . the ozone hole?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 01:07 PM (wVcYX)

392 372 Trump Made the World Cup another stage of his cruelty and corruption

Posted by: MSNBC
---

Spain was asking for it.
Spain's gonna' get a real spanking pretty soon.
"I raped her because it is our custom"
_Oh, OK.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 01:07 PM (826kS)

393 I saw the Odyssey over the weekend, my daughter is really into Greco-Roman type stuff.

Honestly, it's not really woke except for the stupid decision to cast EllenPage, but she's in for 5 minutes and afew other diversity hires that are in it for like 30 seconds.

My issue with the movie though is it's boring and the characters are dull. Not a terrible movie, but not worth any surrounding hype. If it was 30 minutes shorter and they made some better casting, it would have been great.

Posted by: Leupold at July 20, 2026 01:07 PM (eIzlH)

394 *PsyOps

Although PayOps would also be accurate ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 01:07 PM (6jTT/)

395 I'm ok with data centers with closed loop water systems and electrical grids.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2026 01:07 PM (n5tGW)

396 James Caan played Mississippi in El Dorado . Ricky Nelson played Colorado in Rio Bravo. Sensing a trend
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Gary Coleman played Rhode Island.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (ndZc7)

397 Ace may have been abducted.

Posted by: Weasel at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (kmF5/)

398 Someone on X asked “why are people upset that Nolan cast a black woman as Helen?” And I answered “same reason people would be upset if you cast a 5’ tall chinaman as George Washington.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (1/cV0)

399 Maybe they drove him stark raven mad.
Posted by: Axeman

Don't be a loon.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (DZ9Lv)

400 Ace may have been abducted.

Posted by: Weasel at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (kmF5/)

By busty lesbians. But he said NO

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:09 PM (oZ51P)

401 And Starbucks isn't transferring 2000 jobs. There will be 2000 positions at the new headquarters including support staffing ( not 100k a year) but they won't all be transfers.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 01:09 PM (KC5Lt)

402 Gary Coleman played Rhode Island.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

That would be Rodney Dangerfield.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 20, 2026 01:09 PM (DZ9Lv)

403 Does Paul think sales tax is the only benefit to TN having 2000 high paying jobs in the state? He’s more retarded than I thought.

Posted by: The Maths at July 20, 2026 01:09 PM (GEtfQ)

404 People know. Helen was originally from Wakanda.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:09 PM (Fi81e)

405 Except that it is NOT private, and we. EDC to quit quit this fiction that the world was economic Eden before the Fed came along.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 12:49 PM (4g5V+)

I listened to a lecture by Vince Lanci to the extent that money is not as important as what is being held as collateral to back it. Gold is one, but now with the Federal Reserve system and the Central Bank model the collateral is the promise to repay debt with interest. This, he feels is passing away since none of the central banks have been shown to be able to not over-print and over-lend, and that the system is probably going to go back to Gold, and require something like a stablecoin going forward.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 01:10 PM (rbvCR)

406 Posted by: Leupold at July 20, 2026 01:07 PM (eIzlH)

Wow; That's a shame that a movie about the Odyssey was dull. I loved reading that as a younger person.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 01:10 PM (jt/rW)

407 396 James Caan played Mississippi in El Dorado . Ricky Nelson played Colorado in Rio Bravo. Sensing a trend
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Gary Coleman played Rhode Island.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (ndZc7)

Steve McQueen played Nevada in Nevada Smith.

Brian Dennahy played Alaska in North to Alaska.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 01:10 PM (1/cV0)

408 My issue with the movie though is it's boring and the characters are dull. Not a terrible movie, but not worth any surrounding hype. If it was 30 minutes shorter and they made some better casting, it would have been great.

I've heard that they play it at rock-concert volumes too, to the point where it's physically painful for a lot of people.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:10 PM (2ocoG)

409 Abducted and being held at a data center!

Posted by: Weasel at July 20, 2026 01:11 PM (kmF5/)

410 The whole point of casting black people in odd roles is to say people are racist for noticing.

That's black achievement!

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 01:11 PM (oZ51P)

411
Schulz is no loon. He probably saw an opportunity to get out of Seattle and get a lower tax rate.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:11 PM (Fi81e)

412 Trump Made the World Cup another stage of his cruelty and corruption

Posted by: MSNBC
---

Spain was asking for it.
Spain's gonna' get a real spanking pretty soon.
"I raped her because it is our custom"
_Oh, OK.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

Why they shook Trump's hand.

TDS-Infected Spanish Goalkeeper Doesn’t “Want to Go to Prison” for Refusing to Shake Trump’s Hand if Team Wins World Cup

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:12 PM (ndZc7)

413 397 Ace may have been abducted.
Posted by: Weasel at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (kmF5/)
********
By crows.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 01:12 PM (NpAcC)

414 Ace may have been abducted.
Posted by: Weasel at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (kmF5/)
********
By crows.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 01:12 PM (NpAcC)
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A kidnap of crows.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:13 PM (Fi81e)

415 397 Ace may have been abducted.
Posted by: Weasel at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (kmF5/)

Got me worried..I am a creature of habit.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 20, 2026 01:13 PM (y171U)

416 Not even an Ewok Signal. We've been abandoned.

Posted by: far cry at July 20, 2026 01:13 PM (Q6P2R)

417 Gary Coleman played Rhode Island.

Everyone knows Rhode Island isn't real.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:14 PM (2ocoG)

418 Why do Hollywood creatives find so little that is movie worthy in Asian, African, and pre-Columbian American history and culture?

Posted by: Button Pushing Monkey at July 20, 2026 01:14 PM (igCg8)

419 TDS-Infected Spanish Goalkeeper Doesn’t “Want to Go to Prison” for Refusing to Shake Trump’s Hand if Team Wins World Cup
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 01:12 PM (ndZc7)

Stupid.. And a real class act Spain...Go back to your communist country

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 01:14 PM (rijjI)

420 Does one give notice if quitting one's own blog?

Posted by: Inogame at July 20, 2026 01:14 PM (53oGX)

421 Did the crows get ace?

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2026 01:15 PM (YwEeS)

422 I think ace accidentally banned himself again.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 20, 2026 01:15 PM (kXuxC)

423 Has CBD gotten a ransom note yet from Antifa? "WE HAVE ACE. HAND OVER ONE MILLION ORGANIC ALMOND MILK LATTES OR ELSE".

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:15 PM (2ocoG)

424 Why do Hollywood creatives find so little that is movie worthy in Asian, African, and pre-Columbian American history and culture?

Posted by: Button Pushing Monkey at July 20, 2026 01:14 PM (igCg

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Indeed. It took white guys to create Wakanda.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:15 PM (Fi81e)

425 Spain's last hurrah before the re-reconquista

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 01:15 PM (sMkB+)

426 A kidnap of crows.
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:13 PM (Fi81e)
*****
A murder of crows.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 01:15 PM (NpAcC)

427 Mr O'Spades is not missing. He's merely been detained for an attitude adjustment.

Posted by: Big Penguin at July 20, 2026 01:15 PM (MWfyi)

428 I'm a bit late to the discussion but can somebody tell me how data centers are helpful to me? Is storing my digital footprint that important?

Posted by: DanMan at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (8uzBS)

429 404 People know. Helen was originally from Wakanda.
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:09 PM (Fi81e)
Maye, Troy was a real place. Wakanda is a recent discovery, like Kwazaa and Jumteempf.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (LHPAg)

430 I screwed Argentina because I was rooting for them. I started watching the England vs France game at half time and didn't know the score and declared I was going for England since Trump played golf with their star player. I almost jinxed them too. Lucky I quit watching.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (KC5Lt)

431 As a precaution I believe we should immediately think the worst.

Posted by: Weasel at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (kmF5/)

432 2,000 employees in Nashville would throw off about $10 million a year in non payroll taxes.

If half of those employees own homes, they pay a lowball amount on property taxes of about $4 million dollars. That’s a lowball.

Starbucks pays a B&O Tax in Washington state of 0.471 on gross receipts. In Tennessee they pay an excise tax on net taxable income. Starbucks had gross revenue in 2024 of $36 billion. It had net taxable income of $4.1 billion.

Do the math, dunce.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (jnBG1)

433 Ryan Reynolds should play Martin Luther King in a movie.

Posted by: The Maths at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (GEtfQ)

434 Well the one Spanish player did the Trump dance, I don't think they were all against it.

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (YwEeS)

435 A kidnap of crows.
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:13 PM (Fi81e)
*****
A murder of crows.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 01:15 PM (NpAcC)
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Apparently, they've got a new racket.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (Fi81e)

436 A pre Columbian American movie would be watching people build mounds

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (sMkB+)

437 We will release Ace alive for one million dollars.
QUACK

Posted by: Ducks for Trump at July 20, 2026 01:17 PM (UjdFS)

438 A pre Columbian American movie would be watching people build mounds

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (sMkB+)
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Apocalypto.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:17 PM (Fi81e)

439 whoosdabody? Nood

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (rbvCR)

440 I'm a bit late to the discussion but can somebody tell me how data centers are helpful to me? Is storing my digital footprint that important?

Essentially all web sites (this one included) are in some form of a data center. The NSA's had their data center to spy in you in the middle of nowhere in Utah for like a decade now.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (2ocoG)

441 I'm a bit late to the discussion but can somebody tell me how data centers are helpful to me? Is storing my digital footprint that important?
Posted by: DanMan
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It is critical to the State collecting/tracking every single detail of your life.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (XeU6L)

442 I've heard that they play it at rock-concert volumes too, to the point where it's physically painful for a lot of people.
Posted by: Ian S.

===

Yea, the music and sound effects are just sort of stupid and over the top.

Booming bass that rattles everything in just odd places.

I cant say its a bad movie, it's interesting. But it's weirdly paced, almost like a fever dream.

Posted by: Leupold at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (eIzlH)

443 Gold or Silver standard is fine with me. They've been saying, 'it's around the corner', ever since Nixon relieved it. There's a lot of sellin' going on.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (826kS)

444 Someone on X asked “why are people upset that Nolan cast a black woman as Helen?” And I answered “same reason people would be upset if you cast a 5’ tall chinaman as George Washington.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 01:08 PM (1/cV0)

I could have aced that role! I know who I am. I'm the dude playin' the dude, disguised as another dude!

Posted by: Mickey Rooney as I. Y. Yunioshi at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (wVcYX)

445 393 I saw the Odyssey over the weekend, my daughter is really into Greco-Roman type stuff.

Honestly, it's not really woke except for the stupid decision to cast EllenPage, but she's in for 5 minutes and afew other diversity hires that are in it for like 30 seconds.

My issue with the movie though is it's boring and the characters are dull. Not a terrible movie, but not worth any surrounding hype. If it was 30 minutes shorter and they made some better casting, it would have been great.

Posted by: Leupold at July 20, 2026 01:07 PM (

Ellen Page, if she had to be in it, could had been Hermes. But instead they brought in a character from The Aeneid to be in it…

No lotus-eaters? The story of Polyphemus all jacked up? No gods? Well, aside from Athena I suppose…the Sirens ware all jacked up? Scylla and Charybdis just breezed through? I’m out.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (4g5V+)

446 Apocalypto.
Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 01:17 PM (Fi81e)

Mel Gibson knows how to make a movie. If you haven't watched Get the Gringo and Blood Father you've missed two of his underrrated lesser known movies which are great.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 01:20 PM (KC5Lt)

447 A pre Columbian American movie would be watching people build mounds
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 01:16 PM (sMkB+)

My chance to shine!

Posted by: Stacey Abrams at July 20, 2026 01:20 PM (1z8ji)

448 Nood

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2026 01:20 PM (YwEeS)

449 443 Gold or Silver standard is fine with me. They've been saying, 'it's around the corner', ever since Nixon relieved it. There's a lot of sellin' going on.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (826kS)

A waste of perfectly good gold and silver. Besides, aren’t the value of gold and silver also subject to the whims of the market?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:21 PM (4g5V+)

450 >>The only upside to retirement so far has been that I've always wanted to travel the world (and we can likely afford to do so and have already plans for various travel in the next couple of years).

However, The Wifey is generally not up for doing so ... which creates conflict.

I suppose I could just go on my own ...
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 20, 2026 12:48 PM

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You can work out a compromise. I have the opposite situation. I did a lot of travel during my working years, including international. So I wasn't all that interested in heavy travel in retirement. Pre-pandemic we did a lot of trips together but post-pandemic I just don't find the hassles of travel to be worth it. My wife is now traveling more than I and we're fine with it. I go with her on some trips, others she either goes alone or with girlfriends.

Posted by: Bigsmith at July 20, 2026 01:23 PM (1Au9i)

451
I saw the Odyssey over the weekend, my daughter is really into Greco-Roman type stuff.

Honestly, it's not really woke except for the stupid decision to cast EllenPage, but she's in for 5 minutes and afew other diversity hires that are in it for like 30 seconds.

My issue with the movie though is it's boring and the characters are dull. Not a terrible movie, but not worth any surrounding hype. If it was 30 minutes shorter and they made some better casting, it would have been great.

Posted by: Leupold at July 20, 2026 01:07 PM (eIzlH)

Haven't seen it yet, I'm waiting until a good 4k copy goes up on the torrentz. Because fuck you, Hollywood.

The problem I have with the casting is that it was obviously a middle finger to audiences rather than a real narrative device. Now, if Nolan et al had taken the whole story and transplanted it into a new setting (like Anabasis/The Warriors, King Lear/Ran, Macbeth/Throne of Blood etc), I would have no problem with that story. Like maybe doing Odyssey in southern Africa, with Odysseus as a Zulu king, trying to get back from conquering Zanzibar or something like that.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2026 01:27 PM (y9nCu)

452 Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:19 PM (4g5V

Yes; Husband missed the fantasy aspects of the story as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 01:30 PM (D+BhG)

453 213 The main thing that data centers provide is not computing power, although they have that in abundance, but broad network connectivity. You've got a bunch of computers, as you described, but what's remarkable about them is the direct connection to multiple wide-area networks, and all the infrastructure that ~~provides~~requires.

not sure that explains why one is going into my old home town of myton, utah (the data center will be larger than the town!). the only thing you'll have direct connection to there is skinwalkers.
Posted by: anachronda at July 20, 2026 12:11 PM

And the half-dozen fiber-optic cables from different Internet backbone providers. The direct connection part comes from the fact that the IP addresses are all multihomed because, due to the current Internet routing requirements, multihomed addresses have to be aggregated into large blocks. That means that the DC can put data directly into networks connected directly to the people who want the data and doesn't have to go through a peering point.

It's that aggregation that is impossible for most people without spending huge amounts of money.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 20, 2026 01:37 PM (aTl7+)

454 Yup. Agree. Nevada is doing a good job. The tax abatements they are giving are ones they'd give for any big project.

But, the communists of Nevada are fighting them

Posted by: Jeff Carter at July 20, 2026 02:33 PM (8qMs2)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

The Yacht America
Charles S. Raleigh

From the Smithsonian Museum:

The original yacht America was built in 1851 to compete in the Hundred Guinea Cup, the only American entry against fourteen British vessels. When the race was over, Queen Victoria asked, "Who is in first place?" and was told that America had won. When she asked, "Then who is in second?" the American boat had such a strong lead that the reply was: "Madam, there is no second." After this, the race became known as the America's Cup.

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 That yacht rocks

Posted by: Doof at July 20, 2026 09:31 AM (aoylf)

2 America First!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 09:31 AM (FZ29D)

3 The Brits were angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at July 20, 2026 09:32 AM (2Ez/1)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:32 AM (2YhKe)

5 No boobs. No dog. No yacht girls.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 20, 2026 09:32 AM (1Y10s)

6 *Cranks up Christopher Cross*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:32 AM (2YhKe)

7
Beautiful

Posted by: four seasons at July 20, 2026 09:32 AM (/QHx4)

8 To compete in the Hundred Italian Cup?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 09:32 AM (v3afF)

9 Avast, me hearties!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 09:32 AM (ndZc7)

10 JackStraw to the white courtesy phone, please.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 09:33 AM (RIvkX)

11 Ahhhhhh......My old ~~whoring~~ stomping grounds......

Posted by: Megan Markel at July 20, 2026 09:33 AM (2YhKe)

12 Not a great view of the Vulgar Boatmen, and it seems the painting has more barque than bight.

Posted by: Old Salt at July 20, 2026 09:33 AM (JM9I6)

13 When the race was over, Queen Victoria asked, "Who is in first place?" and was told that America had won. When she asked, "Then who is in second?" the American boat had such a strong lead that the reply was: "Madam, there is no second."

Victoria replied, "We are not amused."

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 09:34 AM (ExV1e)

14 She'll do.

Posted by: Capt. Edward Teach, Maritime Property Redistribution Specialist at July 20, 2026 09:34 AM (B0NCh)

15 If that picture had a musical link, it would have to be The Sloop John B.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 09:34 AM (edUvp)

16 As a work of art, this is rather dull and listless. I would be surprised to learn this lumbering hulk of a vessel ever won any race.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 09:34 AM (RIvkX)

17 I like big masts and I cannot lie!

Posted by: Sir Sails A Lot at July 20, 2026 09:34 AM (sKqQm)

18 Bulg promised MP4 boobs.

CBD doesn't deliver.

Who's hardest hit in this situation?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:35 AM (2YhKe)

19 When she asked, "Then who is in second?" the American boat had such a strong lead that the reply was: "Madam, there is no second." After this, the race became known as the America's Cup.

Your Highness,
America won. They then left & sailed home.

The rest haven't finished yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 09:35 AM (v3afF)

20 Did a large renovation at the New York Yacht Club in the 80s where the America's Cup resided for decades.

Posted by: In Before First Semen Reference at July 20, 2026 09:35 AM (JM9I6)

21 If that picture had a musical link, it would have to be The Sloop John B.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 09:34 AM (edUvp)
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From last night's ONT

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 09:36 AM (RIvkX)

22 Girls cause too much trouble on a yacht, old sport. But where's the rum?

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 09:36 AM (gKWVE)

23 Your Highness,
America won. They then left & sailed home.

The rest haven't finished yet.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 09:35 AM (v3afF)

This is why the Spongebob episode had them mooning everyone, isn't it........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:36 AM (2YhKe)

24 No Lido deck. Would not hang.

Posted by: Capt. Bill Kristol at July 20, 2026 09:37 AM (B0NCh)

25 Cool background story but the painting is still not good enough for a Currier and Ives calendar.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 20, 2026 09:37 AM (2ap+5)

26 Also no cabin boys.

Is this mic on?

Posted by: Capt. Bill Kristol at July 20, 2026 09:37 AM (B0NCh)

27 The US Flag on the back sail is problematic.

Posted by: Capt. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at July 20, 2026 09:39 AM (B0NCh)

28 Nice gaffs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 20, 2026 09:39 AM (6/7Fs)

29 Can a maritime painting be considered pedestrian?

Posted by: Don't Cross The Street In The Middle Of the Block Island at July 20, 2026 09:40 AM (JM9I6)

30 22 Girls cause too much trouble on a yacht, old sport. But where's the rum?
Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 09:36 AM (gKWVE)

Up on the bow, but first - the sodomy and the lash.

Posted by: Roy at July 20, 2026 09:40 AM (qwype)

31 I doubt the accuracy of that quotation, because anyone around Queen Victoria would have called her "Your Highness," or some other gross suck-up term.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 09:41 AM (l4RKn)

32 18 Sponge, I didn’t promise boobs. I just noted that boob talk is inevitable on the Art Thread. No matter what the subject of the art is.

After all, somebody’s already brought up yacht girls. Full-on boob talk can’t be far behind.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:41 AM (77rzZ)

33 I like the nautical subject matter for a painting. If you can’t look at the ocean, second best is to have a painting

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 09:41 AM (hxAVk)

34 I like it when water is wet and the sky is up.

Posted by: Capt. Shenna Bellows, US Senate Candidate from the Great State of Maine at July 20, 2026 09:42 AM (B0NCh)

35 /waves

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:42 AM (RkR9o)

36 Top 10 commenters:
1 [734 comments] 'Sponge - F*ck Cancer' [104.25 posts/day]
2 [484 comments] 'Axeman'
3 [389 comments] 'Quarter Twenty '
4 [374 comments] 'TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films'
5 [365 comments] '...'

I really need to get a life.

Maybe I should take up sailing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:42 AM (2YhKe)

37 Beware the Black Pearl, mates.

Posted by: Roy at July 20, 2026 09:42 AM (qwype)

38 1851 was around when the yankee clipper ships were the shit. Wonder if they scaled down and used some of that tech.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 09:42 AM (XvL8K)

39 I see Isaac the ship's bartender on the stern there.

Posted by: Rosa Parks at July 20, 2026 09:43 AM (JM9I6)

40 I was not amused.

Posted by: Queen Victoria at July 20, 2026 09:43 AM (4RPgu)

41 Beautiful!
Unfortunately, if it's hanging in the Smithsonian there's probably some write up about it next to the painting on how yachts are racist.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 09:43 AM (NpAcC)

42 Sniper in the crow's nest!

Oh.

Sniper on the poop deck!

Oh.

Sniper on the mizenmast!

Oh.

Sniper in the engine room!

Oh.

I give up.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:45 AM (RkR9o)

43 My mom was a big fan of sailing.

I can't, however, tell you the last time she'd actually been on a sailboat. It HAD to be several decades ago.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:45 AM (2YhKe)

44
The original yacht America was built in 1851 to compete in the Hundred Guinea Cup, the only American entry against fourteen British vessels.

There were a hundred guineas. Didn't they have a yacht?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 09:45 AM (O0L8i)

45
I give up.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:45 AM (RkR9o)

Sniper's on the little boat in the distance.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:45 AM (2YhKe)

46 Looks like old hotel art. Or one of those "Draw this picture..." things from a mail order art school ad.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 09:46 AM (OUMaO)

47 The Italian navy has a lot more than 100 Guineas.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:47 AM (77rzZ)

48 Beautiful!
Unfortunately, if it's hanging in the Smithsonian there's probably some write up about it next to the painting on how yachts are racist.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 09:43 AM (NpAcC)
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They are. CBD even mentions that it was built to compete in the Hundred Guinea Cup race. CBD said the "G" word!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:47 AM (RkR9o)

49 /reads Sponge at 43

/starts stopwatch

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 09:47 AM (OUMaO)

50 I doubt the accuracy of that quotation, because anyone around Queen Victoria would have called her "Your Highness," or some other gross suck-up term.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 09:41 AM (l4RKn)

As I understand it, protocol would have been to call her "Your Majesty" the first time you spoke to her on a given day and then ma'am, or madam back then, for the rest of the day.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 09:47 AM (ExV1e)

51 Sniper's on the little boat in the distance.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:45 AM (2YhKe)

Yeah, I learned that in sex ed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 09:49 AM (ExV1e)

52 /reads Sponge at 43

/starts stopwatch
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 09:47 AM (OUMaO)/i]

She's gone now, so I'll never know.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:49 AM (2YhKe)

53 Looks like old hotel art. Or one of those "Draw this picture..." things from a mail order art school ad.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 09:46 AM (OUMaO)
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I miss the paint-by-number kits I used to do on rainy days in my childhood. Several were ship scenes.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:49 AM (RkR9o)

54 Many great Italian explorers, but they had to go to Spain and Portugal to get ships, financing. Don't seem fair.

Posted by: Wealthy Florentine Pogen at July 20, 2026 09:49 AM (JM9I6)

55 So, what makes a yacht different from a sailboat? Size?

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:49 AM (77rzZ)

56 So, what makes a yacht different from a sailboat? Size?

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:49 AM (77rzZ)
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Russian oligarch.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:50 AM (RkR9o)

57 Pointy.

Posted by: red speck at July 20, 2026 09:51 AM (Ve/HL)

58 Maybe this yacht is Joey Tribbiani’s “Mr Beaumont”… Rachel will teach him how to sail

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 09:51 AM (TCUO6)

59 I miss the paint-by-number kits I used to do on rainy days in my childhood. Several were ship scenes.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:49 AM (RkR9o)

One of my favorite MST3K host segments was when Joel's Invention Exchange was a paint-by-number kit for a Rothko painting.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 20, 2026 09:51 AM (B0NCh)

60 36 Top 10 commenters:
1 [734 comments] 'Sponge - F*ck Cancer' [104.25 posts/day]
2 [484 comments] 'Axeman'
3 [389 comments] 'Quarter Twenty '
4 [374 comments] 'TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films'
5 [365 comments] '...'

I really need to get a life.

Maybe I should take up sailing.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:42 AM
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You'll need a crew. Call me.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2026 09:52 AM (2Ez/1)

61 When I go ashore and get my pay, I'll go and meet my Essie May. She'll hike her skirt and toss her shoe. She'll clean my pipes, my buddies' too. Don't need a church to find my way 'cause I've found heaven with Essie May.

Posted by: Captain Greybar at July 20, 2026 09:52 AM (e2lsi)

62 Well like the Ryder Cup, the Furriners have been kicking our ass lately.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 09:52 AM (KC5Lt)

63 I was thinking of writing a limerick but couldn't come up with anything that rhymes with "First High Lord Secretary of the Admiralty"...

Posted by: muldoon at July 20, 2026 09:52 AM (I0N4X)

64
100 Guineas? Corleone's will sue!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2026 09:52 AM (x0n13)

65 So, what makes a yacht different from a sailboat? Size?
Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:49 AM (77rzZ)

A sailboat has sails.

A yacht is a sail- or motor-propelled watercraft made for pleasure, cruising, or racing.

So a yacht can have sails, or a motor, and a sailboat can be a yacht or a warship, or merchantman.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 09:52 AM (ExV1e)

66 This can't be a real race. Zero corporate sponsorships.

Posted by: red speck at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM (Ve/HL)

67 So, what makes a yacht different from a sailboat? Size?

Posted by: Bulg

From what I gather there's no real definition. It's pretty much just a boat intended for recreation, usually one you can overnight on. So, marketing label I guess.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM (OUMaO)

68 If Columbus had sailed this fast yacht, he could have been here a lot schooner.

Posted by: Atsa My Boat! at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM (JM9I6)

69 62 What, the foreigners have been playing with Winona’s cups?

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM (77rzZ)

70 Well like the Ryder Cup, the Furriners have been kicking our ass lately.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 09:52 AM (KC5Lt)

Between Tiger Woods and the recently revealed escapades of Phil Mickelson, it seems the Americans are more interested in chasing tail than a little white ball around a golf course.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM (2YhKe)

71 Schooner? I just met her!

Posted by: Rimshot at July 20, 2026 09:54 AM (2Ez/1)

72 Ahoy! Is that a lightship astern of the America?

Posted by: Your Anchor Banker, He Understands at July 20, 2026 09:55 AM (JM9I6)

73 ***After this, the race became known as the America's Cup.
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America

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:55 AM (826kS)

74 I've not painted a big sailing ship but I did do a bunch of small ones. See nic.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 09:55 AM (KC5Lt)

75 Beach house art.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 09:56 AM (jehhT)

76 The original yacht America was built in 1851 to compete in the Hundred Guinea Cup, the only American entry against fourteen British vessels.

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And a hundred Italian ones, apparently. Did they start calling it "Il Tazza d'America?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2026 09:56 AM (BI5O2)

77 If Columbus had sailed this fast yacht, he could have been here a lot schooner.

Posted by: Atsa My Boat! at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM (JM9I6)
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Stop it! You're keeling us!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:56 AM (RkR9o)

78 You know about the cup sizes?

Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 20, 2026 09:56 AM (2Ez/1)

79 Canadian Wildfire smoke seemed to be a problem in 1851 also.

Posted by: I Can't See Clearly Now at July 20, 2026 09:56 AM (JM9I6)

80 There is no second place. That there is classic.

Posted by: DanMan at July 20, 2026 09:57 AM (8uzBS)

81 Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 09:55 AM (KC5Lt)

Very nice. Thx.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 09:57 AM (Bw1/o)

82 What would anyone do with 100 Eyetalians?

Posted by: Tamia Wright at July 20, 2026 09:57 AM (MWfyi)

83 What would anyone do with 100 Eyetalians?

Posted by: Tamia Wright at July 20, 2026 09:57 AM (MWfyi)
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Lash them to the mast?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:58 AM (RkR9o)

84 If Columbus had sailed this fast yacht, he could have been here a lot schooner.

Posted by: Atsa My Boat! at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM (JM9I6)
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Stop it! You're keeling us!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Said he sternly.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2026 09:58 AM (lJ0H4)

85 yow!
monday double shift phooey.

Posted by: cmeat at July 20, 2026 09:59 AM (R11M+)

86 If Columbus had sailed this fast yacht, he could have been here a lot schooner.

Posted by: Atsa My Boat! at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM (JM9I6)
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Stop it! You're keeling us!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Said he sternly.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2026 09:58 AM (lJ0H4)
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/takes a bow and considers an achor

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:59 AM (RkR9o)

87 If Columbus had sailed this fast yacht, he could have been here a lot schooner.

Posted by: Atsa My Boat! at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM
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Yacht to be kidding me!

Posted by: Oh, no... at July 20, 2026 09:59 AM (2Ez/1)

88 anchor

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 09:59 AM (RkR9o)

89 I sailed to Tahiti with an all-girl crew!

Posted by: Gardner McKay, Adventures In Paradise at July 20, 2026 09:59 AM (JM9I6)

90 Perhaps the Queen could have slowed the winning yacht down if she had been armed with a giant can of Silly String.

Posted by: Rex B, remembers the TV commercials at July 20, 2026 10:00 AM (R0XxO)

91 Sniper in the corn
And the corn can't grow

Posted by: Bushy One String at July 20, 2026 10:00 AM (MWfyi)

92 If Columbus had sailed this fast yacht, he could have been here a lot schooner.

Posted by: Atsa My Boat! at July 20, 2026 09:53 AM
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Yacht to be kidding me!

Posted by: Oh, no... at July 20, 2026 09:59 AM (2Ez/1)
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Phlegm?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 10:00 AM (RkR9o)

93 Stop it! You're keeling us!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Said he sternly.
Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2026 09:58 AM

Now you're just being nauti.

Posted by: Groan at July 20, 2026 10:02 AM (2Ez/1)

94 I capstan all of these boat puns. Please stop it.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:02 AM (77rzZ)

95 I'm not a sailer but there is a professional catamaran racing circuit Sail GP that is really fun to watch. The overlaid graphics they use for TV viewing makes it easy to watch and know exactly what's going on even if you know nothing about sailing. They hold the races in various famous bays across the world . Last one I watched was NYC.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:03 AM (KC5Lt)

96 Anyone brings up bollards gets a visit from my death corp. -- Hillary

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 10:03 AM (ExV1e)

97 38 as a wee lad mom would take me to the yankee clipper barber shop for a princeton cut. he had two amphicars named yankee clipper one and two.

Posted by: cmeat at July 20, 2026 10:04 AM (R11M+)

98 94 I capstan all of these boat puns. Please stop it.
Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:02 AM

I sea what you did there.

Posted by: Ugh at July 20, 2026 10:04 AM (2Ez/1)

99 88 anchor
Posted by: Biden’s Dog

Wat’s that?

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:05 AM (77rzZ)

100 "The yacht was later sold to British owners, renamed Camilla, and eventually sold to the Confederate States of America in 1860 as a blockade runner under the name Memphis."

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 10:05 AM (XvL8K)

101 Maritime Lawyer Practice called

There Yacht To Be a Law

( courtesy of Bob's Burgers)

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:05 AM (KC5Lt)

102 >>>Between Tiger Woods and the recently revealed escapades of Phil Mickelson, it seems the Americans are more interested in chasing tail than a little white ball around a golf course.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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Good tail is what makes man want to rule the world.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 10:05 AM (826kS)

103
Stop it! You're keeling us!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Reminds one of the "Hell Yeah" B-side tune "Keelhaulin' ass."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:05 AM (2YhKe)

104 Those Americans are so audacious!

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 20, 2026 10:06 AM (OlzlW)

105 So far away from "Talk Like a Pirate Day?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:06 AM (2YhKe)

106 88 anchor
Posted by: Biden’s Dog

Wat’s that?

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:05 AM (77rzZ)
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You'll have to weigh for it.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 10:06 AM (RkR9o)

107 All this boat talk…yachta yachta yachta

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:07 AM (77rzZ)

108 Charles S. Raliegh? The cigarette guy?

Posted by: Will Robinson at July 20, 2026 10:07 AM (SExz7)

109 So far away from "Talk Like a Pirate Day?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:06 AM (2YhKe)
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I'd like to have an arghument.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 10:07 AM (RkR9o)

110 *There Yacht To Be a Law.*

That's a hull of a joke.

Posted by: Make it stop at July 20, 2026 10:08 AM (2Ez/1)

111 > If that picture had a musical link, it would have to be The Sloop John B.

Freeboard!

Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd Fans at July 20, 2026 10:09 AM (R0XxO)

112 First Lady and Daughter got back from their trip on Sunday. Daughter flew back to Austin, but flight was delayed, delayed again, moved to a new terminal before finally boarding around 11:30 (original 10:20 departure). We stayed up until she advised she was home.

Uber picked her up (requested female driver) and she finally arrived at her apartment around 1:30 am.

Air travel has really declined over the last few years.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:09 AM (2YhKe)

113 There were a hundred guineas. Didn't they have a yacht?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 09:45 AM (O0L8i)

Steerage, my boy.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 10:09 AM (rbvCR)

114 My wife and I were married on Talk Like a Pirate Day. Too bad we didn’t know it at the time.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:10 AM (77rzZ)

115 20 knots. Same as in the North Atlantic.

Posted by: Davey Jones at July 20, 2026 10:10 AM (2Ez/1)

116 Good tail is what makes man want to rule the world.
—-

If it weren’t for men, we’d still be living in caves, if it weren’t for women, we’d still be living in caves.

Posted by: Same principle at July 20, 2026 10:11 AM (JCLIh)

117 Lot of good movies with sailing ships.

Master and Commander
Captains Courageous
Summer Rental

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:11 AM (KC5Lt)

118 I was thinking of writing a limerick but couldn't come up with anything that rhymes with "First High Lord Secretary of the Admiralty"...
Posted by: muldoon at July 20, 2026 09:52 AM

"Sat a gee"?

- with apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 10:11 AM (bFu5X)

119 That's a sleek sloop

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:12 AM (2GVsD)

120 My wife and I were married on Talk Like a Pirate Day. Too bad we didn’t know it at the time.
Posted by: Bulg
_____

Prepare to be boarded!

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 10:12 AM (XvL8K)

121 Good tail is what makes man want to rule the world.
—-

Depends on who casts Helen of Troy.

The Greeks rated their women between 1 and 1000 ships.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:13 AM (KC5Lt)

122
Depends on who casts Helen of Troy.

The Greeks rated their women between 1 and 1000 ships.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:13 AM (KC5Lt)

Everyone knows she was a black, trans lesbian.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:14 AM (2YhKe)

123 107 All this boat talk…yachta yachta yachta
Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:07 AM

Not shore how we got here, but we seem to be roped in.

Posted by: Groan again at July 20, 2026 10:14 AM (2Ez/1)

124 As predicted, Space X has lost a lot of value since the IPO, and is down to $120.56. I'm not ready to buy yet.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:14 AM (Riz8t)

125 The Greeks rated their women between 1 and 1000 ships.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:13 AM (KC5Lt)

Christopher Nolan's Trojans launched 1000 ships to escape Helen.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 10:14 AM (ExV1e)

126 Nice

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 10:15 AM (8l6/L)

127 The Greeks rated their women between 1 and 1000 ships.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:13 AM
++++
And the unit of measure was the Millihelen.

Posted by: Cliff Clavin at July 20, 2026 10:15 AM (2Ez/1)

128 Lot of good movies with sailing ships.

Master and Commander
Captains Courageous
Summer Rental
Posted by: polynikes

Black Sails
Pirates of the Caribbean

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 10:16 AM (v3afF)

129 Lot of good movies with sailing ships.

Master and Commander
Captains Courageous
Summer Rental
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:11 AM (KC5Lt)
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*** Cutthroat Island has entered the chat! ***

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 10:16 AM (FZ29D)

130 The Greeks rated their women between 1 and 1000 ships.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:13 AM (KC5Lt)

Christopher Nolan's Trojans launched 1000 ships to escape Helen.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

A Trojan could have prevented that movie.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 10:17 AM (v3afF)

131 *Finds in newsfeed*

Body found inside house owned by Rep. Ayanna Pressley's husband.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:17 AM (2GVsD)

132 Did see a video over the weekend where a trans was injecting himself into a situation with the police. It thought screaming leave me alone after the officer had enough with it's bullshit.

It ended up getting tased and cuffed, but they are normal and should be celebrated, you see.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:17 AM (2YhKe)

133 Air travel has really declined over the last few years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:09 AM (2YhKe)

Agree. I flew last week for work and all flights were late. Spent around 6 hours at O’Hare… sigh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 10:17 AM (hxAVk)

134 In honor of Moon Day-

"Apollo 10 1/2: a Space Age Childhood" from Richard Linklater.
Like our own Teresa, he grew up in a space-adjacent family- but his movie is evocative of the era even if you didn't. So, so good.

Posted by: sal at July 20, 2026 10:17 AM (f+FmA)

135 Ribbed for her pleasure.

Posted by: Just the punchline at July 20, 2026 10:18 AM (2Ez/1)

136 Fucking NPR (I know, I know).
I listen to their intro to their horrid "1A" show, and the teaser is how "Trump is undermining the integrity of the voting process".

I didn't need to raise my blood pressure THAT high.

The lies are astounding.

But, you can do that when your listeners are brainwashed idiots.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 20, 2026 10:18 AM (x+ehB)

137
A Trojan could have prevented that movie.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 10:17 AM (v3afF)

Preventing 2AM beer goggle ugly children for generations.

Posted by: Trojan Man at July 20, 2026 10:18 AM (2YhKe)

138 Did see a video over the weekend where a trans was injecting himself into a situation with the police. It thought screaming leave me alone after the officer had enough with it's bullshit.

It ended up getting tased and cuffed, but they are normal and should be celebrated, you see.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:17 AM

Saw that one. Over/under on when that blue-haired head case shoots up a school somewhere?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 10:18 AM (bFu5X)

139 I'm standing right here...

Posted by: 11 versions of Moby Dick at July 20, 2026 10:18 AM (f+FmA)

140 Agree. I flew last week for work and all flights were late. Spent around 6 hours at O’Hare… sigh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 10:17 AM (hxAVk)

They finish that shithole yet?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:19 AM (2YhKe)

141 "Travel is a perk."

Posted by: The first lie they tell you at your new job at July 20, 2026 10:20 AM (2Ez/1)

142
Saw that one. Over/under on when that blue-haired head case shoots up a school somewhere?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 10:18 AM (bFu5X)

It will happen. That thing was completely and totally inf*ckingsane........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:20 AM (2YhKe)

143 Air travel has really declined over the last few years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:09 AM (2YhKe)

Agree. I flew last week for work and all flights were late. Spent around 6 hours at O’Hare… sigh
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 10:17 AM (hxAVk)
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It's a conspiracy between Apple and Google to force people to spend more time glued to their devices while waiting for flights...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 10:20 AM (FZ29D)

144 Lot of good movies with sailing ships.
Master and Commander
Captains Courageous
Summer Rental
Posted by: polynikes
Black Sails
Pirates of the Caribbean

Cabin Boy.

Posted by: Chris Elliott at July 20, 2026 10:20 AM (e2lsi)

145 I'm standing right here...
Posted by: 11 versions of Moby Dick at July 20, 2026 10:18 AM

Pfft!

Posted by: Treasure Island at July 20, 2026 10:20 AM (bFu5X)

146 122
Depends on who casts Helen of Troy.

The Greeks rated their women between 1 and 1000 ships.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:13 AM (KC5Lt)

Everyone knows she was a black, trans lesbian.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:14 AM (2YhKe)

And that Homer was a black rapper.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 20, 2026 10:21 AM (xcxpd)

147 The older grandkids were here for the weekend- adult grandchildren (the youngest is 18 on Friday) are a whole other thing.
The girls liked the Odyssey- except for the Circe part. That was gross.

Posted by: sal at July 20, 2026 10:21 AM (f+FmA)

148 Sponge

Saw the video. Cop tells the overweight Blue Meanie that he isn't there for them. But they just had to insist on making the situation all about themselves.

They got what they deserved.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:21 AM (2GVsD)

149
Cabin Boy.
Posted by: Chris Elliott at July 20, 2026 10:20 AM (e2lsi)

Would you like to buy a monkey?

Posted by: David Letterman at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM (x+ehB)

150 Fucking NPR (I know, I know).
I listen to their intro to their horrid "1A" show, and the teaser is how "Trump is undermining the integrity of the voting process".

Preventing non-citizens from voting = Undermining the integrity

Seems the left spends a lot of time buying from Tegrity Farms.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM (2YhKe)

151 Would you like to buy a monkey?
Posted by: David Letterman at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM

Would you like to touch mine?

Posted by: Dieter at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM (bFu5X)

152 100 guineas?

Ayyyyy!!

*reaches inside jacket . . . *

Posted by: Paulie Walnuts at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM (wVcYX)

153 id see a video over the weekend where a trans was injecting himself into a situation with the police. It thought screaming leave me alone after the officer had enough with it's bullshit.

It ended up getting tased and cuffed, but they are normal and should be celebrated, you see.......

I watched it all. The cops were professional and cool. The "woman" in question was hysterical and intensely annoying. He had obviously been trained to think that screaming loudly enough would get him his way. He was wrong.

It's easy to laugh and cheer when he was finally put in the squad car, but TBH, it made me a bit sad. Imagine being this loon's family and watching someone you love spiraling the drain this way.

https://tinyurl.com/38zzt75p

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM (Riz8t)

154 How many careers did Cabin Boy harm?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM (2GVsD)

155 And that Homer was a black rapper.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 20, 2026 10:21 AM (xcxpd)
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D'OH!

Posted by: Homer at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM (FZ29D)

156 >>>I miss the paint-by-number kits I used to do on rainy days in my childhood. Several were ship scenes.

Painted on black velvet.
It's one for the money, two for the show, three to get ready, now go, cat, go.

Posted by: Roy at July 20, 2026 10:23 AM (qwype)

157 They finish that shithole yet?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:19 AM (2YhKe)

No, they’re still fiddling with the place… I’d forgotten how far you have to walk from one gate to the next. Those moving sidewalk things should really be everywhere. Of course I am lazy

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 10:23 AM (TCUO6)

158 And that Homer was a black rapper.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 20, 2026 10:21 AM

I thought he was a yellow Simpson.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 10:23 AM (bFu5X)

159 And that Homer was a black rapper.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Homa was a rappa?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 10:23 AM (v3afF)

160 As I understand it, protocol would have been to call her "Your Majesty" the first time you spoke to her on a given day and then ma'am, or madam back then, for the rest of the day.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 09:47 AM (ExV1e)

I stand corrected!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 10:23 AM (l4RKn)

161 Saw the video. Cop tells the overweight Blue Meanie that he isn't there for them. But they just had to insist on making the situation all about themselves.

They got what they deserved.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:21 AM (2GVsD)

I think the best part was it freaking out because he kept "misgendering" it, then when he said "her" it stopped and said "Thank you" as the struggling continued.

High f*cking comedy........

This really is turning into a scene from Total Recall.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:24 AM (2YhKe)

162 Which way to the bounding main?

Posted by: And The Egress at July 20, 2026 10:24 AM (JM9I6)

163 159 And that Homer was a black rapper.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Homa was a rappa?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 10:23 AM (v3afF)

Proper

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 20, 2026 10:24 AM (xcxpd)

164 How many careers did Cabin Boy harm?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM (2GVsD)

My pipes are clean!

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 20, 2026 10:24 AM (x+ehB)

165 Would you like to buy a monkey?
Posted by: David Letterman

I have a cute one in my cabin. Would you like to see him?

Posted by: Randy Weaver at July 20, 2026 10:25 AM (yYROg)

166 Speaking of sailing ships , I watched two documentaries over the weekend, The creation of Normandy and a doc series on The Napoleonic Wars (1803–15) . The French were pretty badass at one time. Sailing came in of course with William getting to England with his Army and Horses and the British ruling the seas during the Napoleonic wars.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:25 AM (KC5Lt)

167 It's still out there!

FDA says Taylor Farms lettuce recall was based on false positive, source of diarrhea outbreak remains unknown

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:25 AM (ndZc7)

168

I think the best part was it freaking out because he kept "misgendering" it, then when he said "her" it stopped and said "Thank you" as the struggling continued.

High f*cking comedy........

This really is turning into a scene from Total Recall....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:24 AM

Got a link?

Posted by: Mildly curious at July 20, 2026 10:26 AM (2Ez/1)

169 And that Homer was a black rapper.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 20, 2026 10:21 AM (xcxpd)

I thought he was yellow?

https://youtu.be/NJwZIDaILrg?t=5

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:26 AM (2YhKe)

170 Lot of good movies with sailing ships.
Master and Commander
Captains Courageous
Summer Rental
Posted by: polynikes
Black Sails
Pirates of the Caribbean

Cabin Boy.
Posted by: Chris Elliott at July 20, 2026 10:20 AM (e2lsi)

Captain Blood. A real swashbuckler!

Posted by: Zombie Errol FLynn at July 20, 2026 10:26 AM (wVcYX)

171 Posted by: sal at July 20, 2026 10:21 AM (f+FmA

Husband and son went.They both liked except FenSpouse Thought that there should be more about the Gods. Only Athena showed up a bit. Zendaya- groovy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 10:26 AM (jt/rW)

172 I’m pricing one way flights to Denver. Cost is between $350-400 on United for a direct flight. However, flying to somewhere nearby with a connection in Denver is $200-250. Book the connection and not take the second flight saves money vs booking only the first flight.

Make it make sense for me how that works?

Posted by: Huh? at July 20, 2026 10:26 AM (rf/GM)

173 Homa was a rappa?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 10:23 AM (v3afF)

Max Homa? I thought he was a PGA tour player

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 10:26 AM (TCUO6)

174 Got a link?
Posted by: Mildly curious at July 20, 2026 10:26 AM

I think it was in the Morning Report today.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 10:27 AM (bFu5X)

175 PSA

SPCX - 121.60

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 10:27 AM (826kS)

176 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. I'm liking the cut of the jib in today's art.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2026 10:28 AM (2WIwB)

177 Got a link?

Posted by: Mildly curious

https://tinyurl.com/38zzt75p

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:28 AM (Riz8t)

178 Democrats deep down think “Our Democracy” includes voting 12 times, stuffing ballot boxes, all of it. It is folly to try and negotiate with them in good faith. They consider being reasonable and a willingness to compromise in good faith a defect to be exploited

Posted by: Same principle at July 20, 2026 10:28 AM (JCLIh)

179 Someday we'll find out how Hollywood agreed to cast Zendaya in everything.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 10:28 AM (yYROg)

180 Pirates of the Caribbean

Cabin Boy.
Posted by: Chris Elliott at July 20, 2026 10:20 AM (e2lsi)

Captain Blood. A real swashbuckler!

The Old Man and the Sea

Posted by: Drunk Ernie at July 20, 2026 10:28 AM (x+ehB)

181 FDA says Taylor Farms lettuce recall was based on false positive, source of diarrhea outbreak remains unknown
----
The source is out there.

Posted by: Fox Mulder at July 20, 2026 10:28 AM (2Ez/1)

182 Sometimes curiosity is unhealthy. Did Ellen page actually do the bottom surgery to attach some danglers and plug up well… you know? Maybe I don’t wanna know. It is sad because in the movie Inception she was cute

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 10:29 AM (TCUO6)

183 Well, couldn't be any worse.

New York school to use teaching robot made in sex-bot factory

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:29 AM (ndZc7)

184 FDA says Taylor Farms lettuce recall was based on false positive, source of diarrhea outbreak remains unknown
>>>
Did the EPA's hallway shitter transfer to the FDA's lab and cross-contaminate the samples?

The truth is out there.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 10:30 AM (wVcYX)

185 And that Homer was a black rapper.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
__________

Livin' in a nkán'nkster paradise.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 10:30 AM (XvL8K)

186
https://tinyurl.com/38zzt75p
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:22 AM (Riz8t)

A tox screen should be mandatory and released as a part of the investigation and overall health advisory letting everyone know what Big Pharma is doing to humans.

That thing is completely fubar.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:30 AM (2YhKe)

187 FDA says Taylor Farms lettuce recall was based on false positive, source of diarrhea outbreak remains unknown
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:25 AM (ndZc7)

That was on the lettuce they got from Taylor to test. I think they still confirmed the lettuce from Taco Bell is the source. It's kind of confusing.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:30 AM (KC5Lt)

188 Maybe I don’t wanna know.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Until eye bleach or neuralyzers are a thing, you're better off not knowing.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 10:30 AM (lXoJ5)

189 Someday we'll find out how Hollywood agreed to cast Zendaya in everything.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 10:28 AM (yYROg)

I think they're pushing to get Zendaya and Pedro Pascal to mate in the effort to create some kind of unwanted hollywood super offspring or something......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:31 AM (2YhKe)

190 Ellen Page starred in a pro-life, anti-hipster movie (Juno) and has regretted it bitterly ever since.
Her transition must have been the best day ol' Melkor had since Doriath fell.

Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at July 20, 2026 10:32 AM (yYROg)

191 That was on the lettuce they got from Taylor to test. I think they still confirmed the lettuce from Taco Bell is the source. It's kind of confusing.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:30 AM (KC5Lt)

Last report was the lettuce came from Mexico and it's all Trump's fault because he is President and Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:32 AM (2YhKe)

192 A tox screen should be mandatory and released as a part of the investigation and overall health advisory letting everyone know what Big Pharma is doing to humans.

Concur

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:32 AM (Riz8t)

193 New York school to use teaching robot made in sex-bot factory

USB Fantasies.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:32 AM (2GVsD)

194 I think they're pushing to get Zendaya and Pedro Pascal to mate in the effort to create some kind of unwanted hollywood super offspring or something......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:31 AM (2YhKe)

Have to say Zendaya would have been a better Helen of Troy if they still wanted to go woke.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:33 AM (KC5Lt)

195 177 Got a link?

Posted by: Mildly curious

https://tinyurl.com/38zzt75p
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:28 AM
++++
Gold, Jerry!
Gold!

Posted by: Banya at July 20, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

196 Back in the day, when we had insane asylums, nutters like blue hair boy would be sedated 24x7 or put in a straight jacket before anyone would interact with them.

It has nothing to do with gender confusion. It has everything to do with insanity coupled with drugs coupled with social acceptance of said insanity.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 10:33 AM (jehhT)

197 Come visit us for fine seafood repast. Caught fresh from the Gowanus Canal!

Posted by: Hesh and Heidi's Nautical Nosh at July 20, 2026 10:33 AM (JM9I6)

198 Blue Meanie = Make Asylums Great Again

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:33 AM (2GVsD)

199 Problem solved!

Richard Stengel
@stengel
The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally? The answer is, they don't, and that's why they don't try to vote.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:34 AM (ndZc7)

200 @179

>>179 Someday we'll find out how Hollywood agreed to cast Zendaya in everything.

That's simple, she's a serviceable actress, she's black but not black-black, so they get Oscar DEI credits and use her in myriad ways.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:34 AM (XV/Pl)

201 Richard Stengel

Ol' Dick here has never been hate fvcked apparently.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:34 AM (2GVsD)

202 Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 10:28 AM (yYROg)

I have only seen her in clips where the subject matter was underwhelming, and she's certainly not a phenomenal beauty, so I guess I really shouldn't comment on her acting ability Is she any good?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 10:35 AM (rzDFg)

203 New York school to use teaching robot made in sex-bot factory

USB Fantasies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:32 AM (2GVsD)

What could go wrong? Yul learn a lot!

Posted by: Westworld (1973) at July 20, 2026 10:35 AM (wVcYX)

204 The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally? The answer is, they don't, and that's why they don't try to vote.

Because if Republicans win they get sent home. If the Dems win they get to stay and more $$$ from Uncle Sugar

Also, who says they are actually submitting a ballot versus someone at an NGO ballot harvesting a bunch of ballots sent to illegals via Motor Voter or the likes?

Posted by: Sir Sails A Lot at July 20, 2026 10:36 AM (sKqQm)

205 @stengel
The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally? The answer is, they don't, and that's why they don't try to vote.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:34 AM (ndZc7)

Tell me you've done no research into voting irregularities and the illegal alien population without telling me you've done no research into voting irregularities and the illegal alien population.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:36 AM (2YhKe)

206 199 Problem solved!

Richard Stengel
@stengel
The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally? The answer is, they don't, and that's why they don't try to vote.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:34 AM (ndZc7)

Now do DUI, rape, and murder.

What a sad, impotent lackwit.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:36 AM (l6S4a)

207 Actually, Van, you do.

Van Jones
@VanJones68
I'm tired of being told that, to be a progressive, I now must swear allegiance to crazy ideas.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:36 AM (ndZc7)

208 If you need someone to scowl angrily at the camera, Zendaya's your gal.

Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at July 20, 2026 10:36 AM (yYROg)

209 There's one of those YT clips where famous actors and actresses read the worst of the "fan" mail they've gotten. Zendaya reads one where the correspondent says "I bet her feet smell like Funyuns".

She says "let's check", takes off her shoe, and takes a whiff. She then says "Nope, smells like success". I admire that kind of wit.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:36 AM (Riz8t)

210 Richard Stengel

Ol' Dick here has never been hate fvcked apparently.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2026 10:34 AM (2GVsD)

Are you volunteering? Because I've never had sexual relations with a woman before.

Posted by: Richard Stengel at July 20, 2026 10:37 AM (2YhKe)

211 Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:34 AM (XV/Pl)

I guess it's helpful to her image to identify as black, but she's actually multi ethnic. Her father is black. Her mother is white and of European ancestry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 10:37 AM (zqeQL)

212 The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally? The answer is, they don't, and that's why they don't try to vote.

Wait . So you're saying you don't understand what you're also saying doesn't happen.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:37 AM (KC5Lt)

213 FDA says Taylor Farms lettuce recall was based on false positive, source of diarrhea outbreak remains unknown
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:25 AM (ndZc7)

If it was a terrorist attack would we be told?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 10:37 AM (rbvCR)

214 @VanJones68
I'm tired of being told that, to be a progressive, I now must swear allegiance to crazy ideas.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:36 AM (ndZc7)

When an openly admitted communist tells you your communist ideas are cray.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:37 AM (2YhKe)

215 Never even heard of Zendaya before this movie. Would have guessed it had something to do with a pan flute.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 10:38 AM (XvL8K)

216 How is smelling like Funyuns a bad thing?

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:38 AM (77rzZ)

217 Also, let's keep playing this game...

Fine, you tell me you are pretty sure illegals don't vote....but then you tell me if we validate citizenship before allowing someone to vote millions of people will be disenfranchised.

Well, which is it?

Either illegals vote and vote security will stop them or illegals don't vote and vote security will just cost us a small amount of money to validate that.

You spent money on tranny operas in Peru don't give me some bullshit that you are worried about the cost of this validation

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:38 AM (sKqQm)

218 I saw Explosive Diarrhoea open for Projectile Vomit on their Both Ends Tour at CBGB's in 1978.

Posted by: Runnin' On Empty at July 20, 2026 10:38 AM (JM9I6)

219 Taylor Farms is about to get a yuuge payday from the Feds ain't it.

Posted by: Bend over, taxpayers at July 20, 2026 10:39 AM (yYROg)

220 Beauteous.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 10:39 AM (bx2ki)

221 Never even heard of Zendaya before this movie. Would have guessed it had something to do with a pan flute.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 10:38 AM (XvL8K)

She's a Disney product, I believe......there's no telling what she's had done to her in her time in hollywood.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:39 AM (2YhKe)

222 The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally? The answer is, they don't, and that's why they don't try to vote.

Wait . So you're saying you don't understand what you're also saying doesn't happen.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:37 AM (KC5Lt)

The names may be in the system via motor-voter, and even if they scrupulously didn't vote, it doesn't mean a vote was not made in their name.

And there is also the cases of voting bribes, and arrogance as well, but I think the name was voted.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 10:39 AM (rbvCR)

223 Some kind of voodoo fiscal policy.

Grover Norquist
@GroverNorquist
Montana cut income tax rates.
Critics predicted less revenue.
Instead? Income tax revenue more than doubled.
Lower rates. More growth. More jobs. More taxpayers. That's how pro-growth tax reform works.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:39 AM (ndZc7)

224 How is smelling like Funyuns a bad thing?
Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:38 AM (77rzZ)

I don't mind those, other than them tearing the shit out of your mouth while eating them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:40 AM (2YhKe)

225 Even with no boobs (not streamlined, ya know), that babe is shipshape!

Posted by: Martin Tell at July 20, 2026 10:40 AM (OTAXA)

226 Zendaya was the prototype of a runway model. Runway models aren't known to be attractive imo. They all need a sammich and selected by the gay fashion designer.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:40 AM (KC5Lt)

227 @GroverNorquist
Montana cut income tax rates.
Critics predicted less revenue.
Instead? Income tax revenue more than doubled.
Lower rates. More growth. More jobs. More taxpayers. That's how pro-growth tax reform works.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:39 AM (ndZc7)

Ronald Reagan proved this a LONG time ago......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:40 AM (2YhKe)

228 I'm tired of being told that, to be a progressive, I now must swear allegiance to crazy ideas.

Leftwing politics isn't a standard political platform where you want a discrete set of changes to the law and you are done

So if you joined the left because you just wanted gay marriage or Obamacare or something sorry, the bus doesn't stop. You'll get trannies and free healthcare for illegals...and even crazier crap in the future.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:40 AM (sKqQm)

229 What is a funyun??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 10:40 AM (TCUO6)

230 Richard Stengel
@stengel
The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally? The answer is, they don't, and that's why they don't try to vote.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:34 AM (ndZc7)

Oh please, Dick-head here knows this but this has already long been sussed out - Dems are using their presences to fill out ballets, then mail them or collect them, plus add to the census count to get extra representation...not to go to a polling place to place an actual vote.

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 10:41 AM (j10i6)

231 Corn chips are nasty smelling. Corn nuts are the worst though.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:41 AM (KC5Lt)

232 Captain Blood. A real swashbuckler!

The Old Man and the Sea
Posted by: Drunk Ernie

The Sea Hawk. Another Flynn swashbuckler.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2026 10:41 AM (lJ0H4)

233 229 What is a funyun??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

*passes the dutchie on the left hand side*

Posted by: gKWVE at July 20, 2026 10:41 AM (yYROg)

234 How is smelling like Funyuns a bad thing?
Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:38 AM (77rzZ)

I don't mind those, other than them tearing the shit out of your mouth while eating them.

*looks at Ace getting mad because people immediately head off on an irrelevant tangent, nods head as he finally understands*

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:41 AM (Riz8t)

235 SUCK IT ENGLAND

Posted by: Shane McGowan's Liver at July 20, 2026 10:42 AM (f2WUk)

236 Van Jones
@VanJones68
I'm tired of being told that, to be a progressive, I now must swear allegiance to crazy ideas.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:36 AM

Shorter Van Jones: Stop saying the quiet part out loud, you fools!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 10:42 AM (bFu5X)

237 What is a funyun??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 10:40 AM (TCUO6)

https://shorturl.fm/xVVC7

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:42 AM (2YhKe)

238 Zendaya isn't a good actress. She isn't particularly good at acting. She isn't a great singer, dancer, and doesn't have say one type of role she nails.

So why is she getting so much work? Well, coming up through Disney I'm guessing she's gotten used to making deals on the couch...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:43 AM (sKqQm)

239 Corn chips are nasty smelling. Corn nuts are the worst though.
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:41 AM (KC5Lt)

Wife says the dog needs to go to the groomers when he starts to smell like Fritos.

Corn Nuts are AWESOME.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:43 AM (2YhKe)

240 I'm tired of being told that, to be a progressive, I now must swear allegiance to crazy ideas.
——

Revisionist!!! Ha ha ha… It was at this point in Soviet Russia, many Bolsheviks in good standing, veterans of the 1917 Revolution, were sent off to the Gulag or “liquidated”.

No backsliding, Comrade!

Posted by: Same principle at July 20, 2026 10:43 AM (JCLIh)

241 Grover Norquist clearly does not understand the needs of the government of the State of Oregon. Tina Kotex understands that raw revenue numbers are the least important part of this calculation.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 10:43 AM (rbvCR)

242 Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 10:39 AM (rbvCR)

They've had arrests of illegals for voting fraud or assisting with voter fraud. The activists pushing for non citizen voting also includes a lot of illegals.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:43 AM (KC5Lt)

243 I've liked Zendaya in a number of movies, The Greatest Showman most of all, my primary issue with her is that she looks like a little girl even though she's 30.

She's like a female Ralph Machio.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:44 AM (XV/Pl)

244 @stengel
The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally? The answer is, they don't, and that's why they don't try to vote.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

The answer is, they know no one will check.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 10:44 AM (v3afF)

245 229 Linus, only one of the greatest junk foods ever invented.

Think onion-flavored chips in the shape of an onion ring.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 10:44 AM (77rzZ)

246 Corn Nuts are AWESOME.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:43 AM (2YhKe)

To eat , yes. To sit next to someone eating them. No f'ing way.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:45 AM (KC5Lt)

247 There's one of those YT clips where famous actors and actresses read the worst of the "fan" mail they've gotten. Zendaya reads one where the correspondent says "I bet her feet smell like Funyuns".

She says "let's check", takes off her shoe, and takes a whiff. She then says "Nope, smells like success". I admire that kind of wit.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:36 AM

I've enjoyed watching news anchor Carissa Codel reading her hate tweets. The kid has a great sense of humor.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2026 10:45 AM (bFu5X)

248 Coming soon! Our next blockbuster action-horror rom-com-buddy-coming-of-age blockbuster starring Pedro Pascal and Zendaya!

Posted by: Amazon Prime Video at July 20, 2026 10:45 AM (B0NCh)

249 The two greatest junk foods ever invented are Snickers bars and Dorito chips.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:45 AM (XV/Pl)

250 “Crunchy Nuggets” were great. Parched corn, fried in Bacon grease. Corn nuts are OK, but they cheap out frying in synthetic wheel bearing grease

Posted by: Same principle at July 20, 2026 10:45 AM (JCLIh)

251 To eat , yes. To sit next to someone eating them. No f'ing way.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:45 AM (KC5Lt)

LMFAO

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:45 AM (2YhKe)

252 238 Zendaya isn't a good actress. She isn't particularly good at acting. She isn't a great singer, dancer, and doesn't have say one type of role she nails.

So why is she getting so much work? Well, coming up through Disney I'm guessing she's gotten used to making deals on the couch...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:43 AM (sKqQm)

She's swarthy and defeats the male gaze.

That's it.

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot worn by an ugly ethnic chick stamping on a human face—forever.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:45 AM (l6S4a)

253
Lot of good movies with sailing ships.

Master and Commander
Captains Courageous
Summer Rental
Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:11 AM (KC5Lt)

Swashbuckler

Robert Shaw and James Earl Jones trading dirty limericks while piratin'. Not to mention peak Genevieve Bujold skewering pernicious Limeys while looking delicious.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 20, 2026 10:46 AM (iqcvy)

254 That's a beautiful painting and a joy to look at. Thank you for posting it.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 20, 2026 10:46 AM (CXFY/)

255 The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally?

Let's put our stupid hat on here.

"Why would would any citizen take the risk of being arrested for theft, rape, murder, using drugs, etc etc etc? The answer is they don't!"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:46 AM (sKqQm)

256 Alestorm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dU8VPQsTqFU&pp

Posted by: The Ballots at July 20, 2026 10:48 AM (LOZbR)

257 The thing I've never understood is why would an undocumented immigrant or non-citizen want to risk being arrested and deported by voting illegally?

The definition of gaslighting.

Democrats wouldn't be 100% onboard with illegals invading our country if they DIDN'T vote, treasonous asshole.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:48 AM (2YhKe)

258 Meh Zendaya isn't ugly or anything either. She isn't like Bella Ramsey or Lena Dunham.

She's thin with a very average face. An Applebee's six if you will.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:48 AM (sKqQm)

259 Illegals will happily rape, murder, drive drunk, run Medicaid scams, deal drugs and belong to violent gangs.

But they wouldn’t dare illegally vote for fear of being deported.

LOL

Posted by: Huh? at July 20, 2026 10:49 AM (rf/GM)

260 Zendaya has been in a total of 14 films and roughly half of her filmography has been either Spiderman or Dune films.

She's actually under exposed.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:50 AM (XV/Pl)

261 181 FDA says Taylor Farms lettuce recall was based on false positive, source of diarrhea outbreak remains unknown -
--

Somebody jumped the gun. - again.

---

THey should have tazed blue boy in the nuts.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 10:50 AM (826kS)

262 I don't understand these words in this order.

“Star Trek” Icon William Shatner Set to Perform First Show with His Heavy Metal Band

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:50 AM (ndZc7)

263
I don't mind those, other than them tearing the shit out of your mouth while eating them.

ARRRRRRR!

Posted by: Captain Crunch at July 20, 2026 10:50 AM (iqcvy)

264 She's thin with a very average face. An Applebee's six if you will.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:48 AM (sKqQm)

This is what they've taken from you:

Thin and an average face is a 6.

She looks like a live-action Charlie Brown character.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:50 AM (l6S4a)

265 Oh please, Dick-head here knows this but this has already long been sussed out - Dems are using their presences to fill out ballets, then mail them or collect them, plus add to the census count to get extra representation...not to go to a polling place to place an actual vote.
Posted by: Boswell

As far as election cheat schemes go, this one is the absolute best so far. Get a massive amount of ballots legalized (laundered) from otherwise ineligible voters who will likely never vote anyway, and make it legal to have votes counted after election day. So simple, that even the low IQ Dems running big city elections can handle it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 20, 2026 10:51 AM (Dv3i1)

266 The average American woman is 170 lbs now.

Thin is a big deal...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:51 AM (sKqQm)

267 260 Zendaya has been in a total of 14 films and roughly half of her filmography has been either Spiderman or Dune films.

She's actually under exposed.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Hmm. Maybe if she had a few nude scenes it would distract the audience from her average looks.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 20, 2026 10:52 AM (Dv3i1)

268 Meh Zendaya isn't ugly or anything either. She isn't like Bella Ramsey or Lena Dunham.

She's thin with a very average face. An Applebee's six if you will.

I think she's quite attractive.
No Chomo.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2026 10:52 AM (Riz8t)

269 That was on the lettuce they got from Taylor to test. I think they still confirmed the lettuce from Taco Bell is the source. It's kind of confusing.

Posted by: polynikes
---

They need to get their shit straight.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 10:52 AM (826kS)

270 Democrats wouldn't be 100% onboard with illegals invading our country if they DIDN'T vote, treasonous asshole.
——

If Illegals pouring across the border were conservatives, there would be 2 walls, patrolled in between by Pit bulls with AIDS. Smart phones would all be suppled with an App pre-loaded with ICE on speed-dial

Posted by: Same principle at July 20, 2026 10:53 AM (022O5)

271
I don't understand these words in this order.

“Star Trek” Icon William Shatner Set to Perform First Show with His Heavy Metal Band
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:50 AM (ndZc7)

Stealing my thunder....

Posted by: Zombie Christopher Lee at July 20, 2026 10:53 AM (iqcvy)

272
They need to get their shit straight.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 10:52 AM (826kS)

Hard to when it's mostly liquid and blowing everywhere.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 10:53 AM (2YhKe)

273 As I remarked, Zendaya is very pretty and cute, the issue is that she's 30 and looks like a young teenager.

So it limits the types of roles she can get.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:53 AM (XV/Pl)

274 Zendaya isn't a good actress. She isn't particularly good at acting. She isn't a great singer, dancer, and doesn't have say one type of role she nails.

So why is she getting so much work?

She's a diversity hire that doesn't immediately read as one. As Joe Biden said, that's the dream, man. At least in modern Hollywood.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (2ocoG)

275 Posted by: Same principle at July 20, 2026 10:53 AM (022O5

See Ukraine.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (KC5Lt)

276 266 The average American woman is 170 lbs now.

Thin is a big deal...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:51 AM (sKqQm

In Hollywood, it isn't.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (l6S4a)

277 260 Zendaya has been in a total of 14 films and roughly half of her filmography has been either Spiderman or Dune films.

She's actually under exposed.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I'll take things that are wrong for $400, Alex.

Posted by: Auspex at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (Y8DZL)

278 plus add to the census count to get extra representation

This is a point that gets lost in the discussion a lot. Assume that in fact no illegals vote.

In a state that sends illegals home the 760K citizens in a house district get one Rep.

Then in a state that brings in illegals every 300k citizens get a state rep because they've got 460k illegals around them.

Is this fair? No. In fact this sort of game caused major issues in Britain years ago as "rotten boroughs"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (sKqQm)

279 As I remarked, Zendaya is very pretty and cute, the issue is that she's 30 and looks like a young teenager.

Not seeing the problem.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (Riz8t)

280 The average American woman is 170 lbs now.
Thin is a big deal...
——-

The average American woman … is not 6’2” however.

Posted by: Same principle at July 20, 2026 10:55 AM (022O5)

281 I think Zendaya ruined Dune though that could have just been the script writers.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:56 AM (KC5Lt)

282 276 266 The average American woman is 170 lbs now.

Thin is a big deal...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:51 AM (sKqQm

In Hollywood, it isn't.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (l6S4a)

The comparator isn't the narwhale who's checking you out in Walgreens. It's any of the much more attractive women (who can also act beyond frowning) who could have been cast as Chani.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:56 AM (l6S4a)

283 “Star Trek” Icon William Shatner Set to Perform First Show with His Heavy Metal Band

Shatner passed "no fucks given" about 25 years ago and it's fun to watch. Especially when people try to start fights with him on X.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 10:56 AM (2ocoG)

284 Zendanya reminds me of pirate Johnny Depp.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 10:56 AM (LHPAg)

285 What IS a woman? Who are we to judge...

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 20, 2026 10:57 AM (affD0)

286 Spring break shows that young women are eating a lot more junk food than they used to.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 10:58 AM (KC5Lt)

287 There is a schooner "America 2.0" modeled after the original "America" that does sailing tours in Key West and New York. It is a beautiful vessel.
Website here: https://sail-nyc.com/our-boats/schooner-america-2-0/

My wife and I went on an afternoon sail out of Key West. Very breezy day, boat making 11 knots with just mainsail and jib. A wonderful time.

Posted by: George V at July 20, 2026 10:58 AM (HUbHH)

288 @281

>>I think Zendaya ruined Dune though that could have just been the script writers.

I think the primary issue is that the new Dune films are not good overall and are simply not an improvement over the 1984 film.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:58 AM (XV/Pl)

289 In Hollywood, it isn't.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
---

Hollywood represents all that is wrong with America.
Pressing money to Hollywood in any way is supporting the DSA.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 10:58 AM (826kS)

290 I saw Explosive Diarrhoea open for Projectile Vomit on their Both Ends Tour at CBGB's in 1978.
Posted by: Runnin' On Empty

2020 v. 2026

https://tinyurl.com/yn4e3e23

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 10:59 AM (ndZc7)

291 What kind of bozo uses a non word such as "suss" or sussed out? When did this become trendy?

Posted by: Will Robinson at July 20, 2026 10:59 AM (SExz7)

292 “Star Trek” Icon William Shatner Set to Perform First Show with His Heavy Metal Band
---
"Shatner has left the building."

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 10:59 AM (Fi81e)

293 Corn Nuts are AWESOME.
Dork her squeek hole then she can pick the kernels from your johnson.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 20, 2026 10:59 AM (yr/Go)

294 Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:58 AM (XV/Pl)

I liked the 1984 movie and thought Part one of the new Dune was an improvement. Part two was a huge disappointment for me.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2026 11:00 AM (KC5Lt)

295 Incidentally, the kids have come up with a new way to mock the rainbow mafia: tell them you're a member of the IDGAF+ community. Love it.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2026 11:00 AM (2ocoG)

296 Zendaya was a Disney kid which means she was passed around Hollywood. That’s how she became a “star” who is in everything. A story as old as time.

Posted by: Huh? at July 20, 2026 11:00 AM (rf/GM)

297 286 Spring break shows that young women are eating a lot more junk food than they used to.

Posted by: polynikes
---

Gluttony has become the norm.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:00 AM (826kS)

298 Zendaya played Zendaya in the Dune movies.

But Zendaya plays Zendaya in every movie she's in.

I think Paul, his mother, and even Jason Momoa did well but ugh every scene with Chani was like watching a Disney special focused on a teenager with a troubled dating life.

Oh my Gawdddd Becky. Paul is totally going to miss the prom to like play with his sandworm. We have to fix this!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 11:00 AM (sKqQm)

299 Rant up

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 11:01 AM (v3afF)

300 The answer is, they don't
-------

Ah I see. So we're back to "it never happens". The whole "not widespread" thing is going back on the shelf.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 11:01 AM (AfzoM)

301 The new Buffalo Bill's logo.

https://tinyurl.com/ypsu7mjd

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 11:01 AM (ndZc7)

302 Incidentally, the kids have come up with a new way to mock the rainbow mafia: tell them you're a member of the IDGAF+ community. Love it.

I am feeling hope for the youngsters.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 11:01 AM (lXoJ5)

303 286 Spring break shows that young women are eating a lot more junk food than they used to.
Posted by: polynikes

You mean 800 calorie blended frappes and a giant chocolate chip cookie isn't a nutritious lunch?

Posted by: Runnin' On Empty at July 20, 2026 11:01 AM (JM9I6)

304 I think the primary issue is that the new Dune films are not good overall and are simply not an improvement over the 1984 film.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:58 AM (XV/Pl)

The 1984 Dune rushed the story and made egregious errors to it. It is actually the opposite: Villaneuve’s films are a vast improvement.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:01 AM (4g5V+)

305 You mean 800 calorie blended frappes and a giant chocolate chip cookie isn't a nutritious lunch?
Posted by: Runnin' On Empty at July 20, 2026 11:01 AM (JM9I6)

Shut your hateful mouth.

Posted by: Starbucks at July 20, 2026 11:02 AM (rf/GM)

306 Polyester for the win!

https://tinyurl.com/47wyauu4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (ndZc7)

307 276 266 The average American woman is 170 lbs now.

Thin is a big deal...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:51 AM (sKqQm

In Hollywood, it isn't.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (l6S4a)

The comparator isn't the narwhale who's checking you out in Walgreens. It's any of the much more attractive women (who can also act beyond frowning) who could have been cast as Chani.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:56 AM (l6S4a)

Audie Murphy was 5 feet 5 inches (165 cm) tall and weighed 112 pounds (51 kg) when he enlisted in the U.S. Army at age 17 in 1942.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (wVcYX)

308 291 What kind of bozo uses a non word such as "suss" or sussed out? When did this become trendy?

Posted by: Will Robinson
----

When someone says something is the shits you never know for sure if it something good or bad. It is unclear.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (826kS)

309 279 As I remarked, Zendaya is very pretty and cute, the issue is that she's 30 and looks like a young teenager.

Not seeing the problem.
Posted by: Joe Biden at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (Riz8t)

Zendaya is just…so plain looking.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (4g5V+)

310
Tastes differ.

We have a respected moron who thinks Greta Thunburg is hot.

Posted by: Auspex at July 20, 2026 11:05 AM (Y8DZL)

311 307 276 266 The average American woman is 170 lbs now.

Thin is a big deal...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 10:51 AM (sKqQm

In Hollywood, it isn't.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:54 AM (l6S4a)

The comparator isn't the narwhale who's checking you out in Walgreens. It's any of the much more attractive women (who can also act beyond frowning) who could have been cast as Chani.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 10:56 AM (l6S4a)

Audie Murphy was 5 feet 5 inches (165 cm) tall and weighed 112 pounds (51 kg) when he enlisted in the U.S. Army at age 17 in 1942.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 11:03 AM (wVcYX)

Oh, well now I'm totally a Zendaya fan.

Wut?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 11:06 AM (l6S4a)

312 249 The two greatest junk foods ever invented are Snickers bars and Dorito chips.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 10:45 AM (XV/Pl)

And people who have never eaten either die.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:06 AM (4g5V+)

313 310
Tastes differ.

We have a respected moron who thinks Greta Thunburg is hot.
Posted by: Auspex at July 20, 2026 11:05 AM (Y8DZL)
Disturbing.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 11:06 AM (LHPAg)

314 313 310
Tastes differ.

We have a respected moron who thinks Greta Thunburg is hot.
Posted by: Auspex at July 20, 2026 11:05 AM (Y8DZL)
Disturbing.
Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 11:06 AM (LHPAg)

For a goblin.

But one does not simply walk into Mordor.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 11:08 AM (l6S4a)

315 Why would illegal aliens murder and risk the chance of being located and deported.

Why would illegal aliens risk deportation over serially molesting a girl starting at age 10?

Oh, what's that? Dems block their deportation, too.

Dems try to play it that any deportation is unfair?

Yeah, that might be a factor....

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:09 AM (Fi81e)

316 Is it fair for America to be able to build a yacht that is that much bigger?

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 11:10 AM (Fi81e)

317 But I have to say Princess Fiona is a looker.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 11:12 AM (LHPAg)

318 313 310
Tastes differ.

We have a respected moron who thinks Greta Thunburg is hot.
Posted by: Auspex at July 20, 2026 11:05 AM (Y8DZL)
Disturbing.
Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2026 11:06 AM (LHPAg)

A cry for help.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 11:12 AM (4g5V+)

319
The Yacht America
Charles S. Raleigh
From the Smithsonian Museum

It's very beautiful!

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 12:25 PM (6wpGE)

320 6 *Cranks up Christopher Cross*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:32 AM (2YhKe)

hahahahaha earworm

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 12:26 PM (6wpGE)

321 Sneaking in.

👍 Would hang.

What a nice opener for the week. Thank you.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 20, 2026 12:51 PM (NFX2v)

The Morning Report — 7/ 20 /26

Good morning kids. Well we seem to be picking up from where we left off last week. Then again why is this Monday different from any other Monday in this day and age?!

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer appears to have let out a ghastly flatulence this week on the floor of the chamber while criticizing President Donald Trump over the war in Iran.

Meh, every time Chuck Schumer opens his mouth to imitate human speech he emits the noise and stench of flatus, but continuing on a more serious yet schatological note.

The lettuce now being recalled by Taylor Farms in California has also hatched a number of lawsuits filed in federal court against Taco Bell, which allegedly used the shredded lettuce contaminated with a parasite called cyclospora.
No deaths have been reported from the outbreak.
Of course, like most any negative condition that makes headlines and impacts Americans, the problem was caused by Trump, according to a Democrat lawmaker and another who is running for Congress.
Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) posted a video Saturday on social media claiming the “worst outbreak in U.S. history” was caused by the president “taking a wrecking ball” to “our public health infrastructure,” even though the actual source of the outbreak has been traced to Mexico.

And speaking of projection and projectile diarrhea. . .

Mamdani’s belief that, as a minor municipal functionary, he wields some imaginary international power to subvert American sovereignty just shows the delusions of his ideology.
His authority extends to fixing potholes and collecting garbage, neither of which he does competently. But his delusions of grandeur are shared by the misfits, ignoramuses, and foreign interlopers who make up his rancid branch of the Democrat Party — the DSA.
The Democratic Socialists of America know nothing, have built nothing and don’t understand the country they live in, yet they imagine they have the moral authority to tear it down.
Their aim is to import foreign conflicts and alien ideologies that are the antithesis of America’s founding principles. . . Leftists are motivated by envy and a “poisonous resentment” that makes them hostile to everything that has made America successful, as Rubio said last week when opening a State Department conference on combating left-wing violence, something his Cuban emigre family knows a thing or two about. . . But that is the mission of the DSA. To use the Democratic Party as their Trojan horse to foment a communist revolution in America.

Does Mamdani really think that any NYC police officer is really going to attempt to lay a finger on Benjamin Netanyahu? There sure is no way in hell any Mossad agent and there are likely a half dozen or so surrounding Bibi everywhere he goes, will ever allow that to happen and they're probably itching to ventilate or otherwise break Mamdani's bones if they get half a chance.

That said, sic transit gloria Democrats because of Sick Bastards like Mamdani.

So, do they really have a shot at winning the next couple of elections and then finally snuffing us out for good?

Democratic Senate contenders are dramatically out-raising their Republican peers, according to Federal Election Commission data — with Georgia’s Jon Ossoff and James Talarico in Texas leading the pack.
Eight of the top 10 Senate candidate fundraiser this year are Democrats, whose top contestants have raked in $574 million, compared to the Republicans’ $336 million, per the FEC.
Incumbent Sen. Ossoff (D-Ga.) is the biggest fundraiser on both sides, having raked in a jaw-dropping $77 million as of June 30, and has a staggering $42.5 million in cash on hand. . . . Democrats are considered likely to retake the House in the Nov. 3 elections, due to polls and the historical trend of the party in power in the White House losing seats in the midterms.
But the Senate is a tougher call. Based on polls and incumbents, Republicans have an easier path to hold the upper chamber, but Democrats are running neck and neck with them in key races.
Democrats are generally eying Maine, Ohio, North Carolina and Alaska in particular as their easiest path to retaking the Senate.
But to win the upper chamber, they have to defend vulnerable incumbents, including Ossoff, who has proven to be a financial juggernaut.

Well at least I can delude myself with the likes of John Fetterman.

Have a good day,

ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY

Miranda Devine: This is not just politics as usual. It is a communist insurgency aimed at destroying America. It is intolerable.
Mamdani and his DSA comrades have one goal — a communist revolution in America

"DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST/GLOBALIST BORDER BLOODBATH," AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY

...designed to bypass the gridlock of activist immigration courts, the Department of Justice has officially activated a powerful, 30-year-old national security weapon to aggressively deport suspected foreign terrorists from American soil.
FIRST EVER: Trump Taps Clinton-Era Alien Terrorist Removal Court for Dangerous Migrant Deportations
The rule, known as “public charge,” appeared in the Federal Register on Thursday. It will be formally published July 20 and take effect Sept. 18. Under the policy, green card applicants must demonstrate they will not become a burden on American taxpayers.
New Trump Policy Prioritizes Financially Independent Green Card Applicants
The Trump administration can’t allow its deportation policies to be dictated by the outrage of the left and the propaganda press.
Rather Than Back Down, Trump Must Escalate His Campaign For Mass Deportations
Mass immigration doesn’t stand alone. Instead, Western governments, including ours, have much grander plans for the end of nations.
Immigration Is A Proxy Issue For A Western Government Trend
The sustained increase in daily arrests also coincides with President Trump’s defense and subsequent reinstatement of traffic stops. “We CANNOT give up one of ICE’s most important and effective Crime fighting tools, THE TRAFFIC STOP,” posted the President on Truth Social earlier this week.
ICE Arrests Hit Record Average of 1,400 a Day This Month.
THE IRAN CONFLICT, MOU/"PEACE DEAL" (aftermath??)
Iran rapidly responded, saying two US bases in Kuwait were targeted in response to more than a week of intensifying attacks — which Tehran said included strikes on an airport, a railway station and bridges.
U.S. Launches Strikes to ‘Punish’ Iran After Troops Killed
On one hand, we are winning the war with Iran. On the other hand, the Vice President seems to be at odds with the administration.
Strange Things Are Happening
Instead of hitting them where it really hurts -- by empowering the Iranian people to overthrow the regime -- we are fighting the "old" war.
Iran's Warning Shot
ISRAEL vs IRAN & GAZA/HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH . . . AND LEFTISTS. . . The U.N... AND HISTORY
"Destroy Israel" banner floats at San Fermin Festival.
In Spain, Jew-Hate Now Running With the Bulls
Soros backed group hits new lows.
J Street Sponsors Conference Featuring Speaker Who Praised Hamas
THE GREAT SOMALIAN SIMOLEON SWINDLE
As Republicans expose fraud in the tens of billions in Medicaid and other welfare programs, Democrats’ response is to . . . duck. They made it glaringly obvious last week as Sen. Rand Paul chaired a Senate Homeland Security Committee meeting: Nearly all the panel’s Dem members were total no-shows; only Sen. Gary Peters attended at all, and only long enough to ask a few questions before heading for the door.
Democrats damn themselves with no-shows at hearing on fraud
DOMESTIC AFFAIRS, THE COURTS, WASTE/FRAUD/ABUSE
“The Roberts Court sees only white.”
Hawaii Supreme Ct Lashes Out At SCOTUS in CRT-Infused Rant, Citing KBJ Dissent
The fast-food drive-thru was not born in California. But the idea was perfected by California cultural icon In-N-Out, which is fitting because the double-double chain has become the main villain in Culver City’s effort to ban drive-thrus.
Another Piece of California Culture Threatened By Prohibitionists
Good intentions gone bad—by design!
McCain-Feingold, USAID and the NGO Network
WE-ALL-SLAM-FOR-I-SLAM
Jamey dutifully wore her keffiyeh, took up with a “Palestinian” man, and converted to Islam.
Ireland: ‘Palestinian’ Muslim Man Beats His Pro-‘Palestinian’ American Lover to Death
The water carriers behind the creeping Sharia.
Baptist Report Blames ‘Republican-Fueled Islamophobia’ for Attacks on Muslims
Here is a declaration of Islamic supremacy Americans can no longer ignore.
Islam and America Are Incompatible
OFFICIAL DEMOCRAT PARTY/LEFTIST-ENDORSED ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-CHRISTIANITY, PLUS VARIOUS & SUNDRY GODLESS HEATHENS
When the state forces Catholic nuns to choose between their faith and caring for the dying, ideology has become a civil religion.
The Left Is Intrinsically Intolerant: Attacking New York Nuns Is a Feature, Not a Bug, of the Left’s ‘Civil Religion’
REVIEW: 'The Jews and the Left' by Batya Ungar-Sargon
Another Wake-Up Call for America's Jews
The statues are of the patron saints of police officers and firefighters, the National Catholic Register reported in April, noting that if the case reaches the U.S. Supreme Court it “may help determine whether religious art has a continuing place in the public square”:
Massachusetts: Legal Fight with Left-Wing ACLU over St. Michael Statue Could Land in U.S. Supreme Court
His appeals are euphemisms for talking about one particular group.
Mamdani Invokes “International Law” Against Israel
That will fix everything.
As NYC Floods, Mamdani Ponders Arresting Netanyahu
The Pennsylvania Democrat called Mamdani a “clown,” noting that the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) arrest warrant for Netanyahu for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity was from a court the United States did not recognize.
‘Sit Down’: Fetterman Says Mamdani a ‘Clown’ to Threaten Netanyahu Arrest
FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, CENSORSHIP, FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, BIG BROTHER TECH
Why the media forgot the 50th anniversary of Israel’s triumphant rescue.
Entebbe Oversight
No debunking. No denial. No deriding. No dismissive editorializing in the guise of ostensible reporting.
Mainstream Media Ignores An Explosive Charge In Trump’s Speech
This survey of the nation’s greatest companies is both nonsensical and evidence of the problems that plague our mainstream media.
America’s Top Companies?

* * * * *
The potential for China to usurp us in AI isn’t a scary hypothetical for some future decade. It’s our current reality.
The New American Industrial Revolution Runs on Data Centers
China is the one foreign power with both the resources and the strategic incentive to shape American technology.
Is China Sabotaging America’s Data Centers?
David Harsanyi: The panic surrounding data centers is highly reminiscent of the panic surrounding hydraulic fracturing. And like the fracking ban in New York, also based on junk science and scaremongering — not to mention, initially a “moratorium” — the policy will backfire.
Data-center debate has one winning argument: sheer panic — and it will backfire
Amazon Leo intends to start its low-Earth orbit (LEO) satellite internet service later this year, having now already launched nearly 400 satellites. Such broadband-capable satellites operate roughly 350 to 500 miles above the Earth’s surface. This altitude allows the satellites to deliver faster internet speeds while also making their launches more cost efficient.
Amazon’s ‘LEO’ Satellite Network Will Soon Be Up And Running As Federal Funds Flow
THE ECONOMY, STUPID
Early moves presage a return to a humbler Federal Reserve and a smaller balance sheet.
The Fed’s Kevin Warsh Is Already on the Right Track
The new Democratic Socialists in America refer to the common good, or communist good, all the time. But what do they mean?
Is There Really a Common Good?
RED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS, JUNK SCIENCE, LYSENKOISM
President Trump’s efforts to dismantle parts of the Biden junta's climate-policy framework have exposed just how much money and institutional power had become attached to it.
Who Really Funds the Climate Agenda?
CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY
The suspect was identified as 55-year-old Batarti Gabbard whom police arrested and charged after the incident happened on the afternoon of July 12 in Waikiki, KITV reported Friday.
VIDEO: Tulsi Gabbard’s Brother Accused of Trying to Lure Children with Gum, Money to Hotel Room
Trust is important. Verification is essential.
Who Watches the Watchers?
EDUCATION, AND WHAT PASSES FOR IT
It was inevitable that the LAUSD’s obsessive focus on left-wing politics would wreak havoc in the classroom and that students would vanish.
Los Angeles’s School District Went From Morally To Financially Bankrupt
Moms for Libros, which had its tax-exempt status revoked, has another leader who had a judge garnish her wages over a longstanding debt
‘Grassroots’ Organization Fighting Miami Charter School Expansion Is Led by Democrat Operative Arrested for Stealing From Target, Pocketing Proceeds of GoFundMe Campaign, and Stiffing Mom’s Nursing Home
SECOND AMENDMENT
The state’s attorneys “at every turn have turned a blind eye to the Constitution while prioritizing histrionics over history.”
Federal Appeals Court Delivers Big Second Amendment Win in New Jersey
The decision says that the Second Amendment still means something.
New Jersey’s overreaching gun and magazine bans die in the Third Circuit
Gun control remains a priority including its fixation on the AR-15. It is on the SCOTUS docket this Fall.
Second Amendment: Using courts to engineer society is a liberal obsession and delusion
THE 2020 AND OTHER ELECTION HEISTS & AFTERMATH
The move signals increased pressure from the federal government to ensure states take election integrity seriously. By linking grant funding to security measures, DHS can ensure voter rolls are accurate. This decision could provide an incentive to reduce vulnerabilities and restore public confidence in the democratic process.
Trump Admin Warns States Must Scrub Voter Rolls to Get Federal Grants.
And if you doubt that, just ask Obama-Appointed Judge Amy Totenberg.
Trump Is Right About Voting Machines
The president is correct: Widespread evidence of Michigan fraud was detected before the 2020 election.
More Evidence for Trump’s ‘Debunked’ 2020 Election Fraud Claims
Given the massive amount of fraud that Trump revealed (and that slipped by most people), it’s questionable whether we’ve actually had any elections recently.
Will We Have an Election This Year?
Across America, perfecting an opaque election process has become more important than the system’s fundamental integrity.
The God Of Process Controls American Elections
“Finding out that Olive Garden has better security than American elections was not on my bingo card!”
The Olive Garden Pasta Pass Stumbles Into the National Debate Over Voter ID
Senator Mark Warner attacked GOP voter reform while simultaneously mischaracterizing his own state's policy.
Top Democrat Doesn’t Know His Own State’s Voter ID Policy
Who needs fraudulent drivers licenses to vote in elections when birth tourism promises babies born on American soil authentic U.S. IDs?
After Birthplace Citizenship Ruling, China Won’t Need Hackers To Meddle In US Elections
DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY, INSANITY
Nothing to see here, I'm sure.
Cops Find Body in Squad Husband’s House After $2B Contract Accusations
John Stossel: "Castro famously wore two rolexes."
Spoiled Socialists
There is no bottom for the red-green alliance.
Ro Khanna’s Unfortunate Encounter With Face-Eating Leopards
The Senate hopeful is trying to distance himself from the DSA in his statewide race in battleground Michigan. His record shows years of strong support.
Abdul El-Sayed Hailed as 'Longtime Friend' of Democratic Socialists and Headlined Socialist Fundraiser With 'Squad' Member Before Claiming He Is 'Not Somebody Who Is a Socialist'
Of course, like most any negative condition that makes headlines and impacts Americans, the problem was caused by Trump, according to a Democrat lawmaker and another who is running for Congress.
Democrats Blame Trump for Recalled Mexican Lettuce Causing ‘Explosive Diarrhea’
POLITICS
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1 Good morning, Horde!

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:46 AM (lXoJ5)

2 Rather Than Back Down, Trump Must Escalate His Campaign For Mass Deportations

How many people can fit in a C-5? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:48 AM (lXoJ5)

3 Good morning again dear morons and happy birthday JJ

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 07:49 AM (RIvkX)

4 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:49 AM (u82oZ)

5 Happy Monday

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 07:50 AM (/+uur)

6
*furiously shuffles papers on desk*

Content, content, content. How am I expected to keep up with it all?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 07:50 AM (O0L8i)

7
Willowed, because I'm seriously annoyed.

Seriously annoyed. I think that after some reasonable length of time (5-10 years), journals should have to make articles open access. There's no reason to pay $50-60 for a PDF of something that was published 30 or 40 years ago.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 07:51 AM (O0L8i)

8 Your Senate Minority Leader took my advice. So?

Posted by: Mao at July 20, 2026 07:51 AM (4g5V+)

9 NR Pax

C-17 is good enough. Those C-5s are getting very old and mechanically unreliable.

My question is the destination.

Gaza, Bermuda triangle for Gaia-based shark feeding, or the Russian front lines in Ukraine?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:52 AM (u82oZ)

10 "Destroy Israel" banner floats at San Fermin Festival.
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Mame mi pinga!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 07:52 AM (RIvkX)

11 The new UK PM Burnham sounds like a fucking disaster waiting to happen. A reincarnation of, take your pick, PM Wilson or PM Callaghan.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 07:53 AM (4g5V+)

12 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 07:53 AM (jehhT)

13 >>> 7
Willowed, because I'm seriously annoyed.

Seriously annoyed. I think that after some reasonable length of time (5-10 years), journals should have to make articles open access. There's no reason to pay $50-60 for a PDF of something that was published 30 or 40 years ago.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 07:51 AM (O0L8i)

REEEEE!!!

Posted by: DIESney at July 20, 2026 07:53 AM (vDZgA)

14 Hadrian the Seventh

Absolutely!! That is why patents have a time limit.

Google and AI in general will eventually break that strangle-hold of data.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:54 AM (u82oZ)

15
C-17 is good enough. Those C-5s are getting very old and mechanically unreliable.

My question is the destination.

Gaza, Bermuda triangle for Gaia-based shark feeding, or the Russian front lines in Ukraine?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:52 AM (u82oZ)

Wish we could dust off the blueprints and make more C-5s with updated technology.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 07:54 AM (4g5V+)

16 The potential for China to usurp us in AI isn’t a scary hypothetical for some future decade. It’s our current reality.

Its not a potential anymore. You have former Tea Party activists doing all that they can do to make sure that the US is not a player in the AI transformation.

Its sort of like a rejection of MAD, one where instead of having a warhead race, the US immediately concedes to the enemy the monopoly on nuclear arms, and then hopes for the best despite all of the contrary evidence.

A lot of US companies are leaving domestic AI and looking to China for the exact same reasons all other industries abandoned the US for manufacturing and went overseas.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 07:54 AM (PVBkQ)

17 "Democratic Senate contenders are dramatically out-raising their Republican peers, according to Federal Election Commission data — with Georgia’s Jon Ossoff and James Talarico in Texas leading the pack."

Just a reminder but in 2016 jeb! out raised evey single person running for president in the republican primary just to come in last in new hampshire and iowa.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 20, 2026 07:56 AM (0N4FZ)

18 How many people can fit in a C-5? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:48 AM (lXoJ5)

Unfortunately, as Pinocet discovered, more than in helicopter, but that does not mean we shouldn't try...and several trips could be made.

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 07:56 AM (j10i6)

19 Cow Demon

Based on where the UK is now, Burnham will be the worst PM. Ever.

No corrective action, just doubling down on failed policy.

Labour elected a new PM, but the country still died.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:56 AM (u82oZ)

20 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 07:56 AM (ExV1e)

21 Throwing my prophet token on the table.

The dems are not going to win the house.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 07:57 AM (abScH)

22 The dems are not going to win the house.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 07:57 AM (abScH)

I agree, Ben, and I can tell by how hard Fox polling is working to get the Dems over the line...ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 07:58 AM (j10i6)

23 >>>Mamdani and his DSA comrades have one goal — a communist revolution in America.

Then it will be weapons free.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 20, 2026 07:58 AM (dK+Kv)

24 Cow Demon

The US military is a vast logistics firm that can fight in Waffle Houses.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:58 AM (u82oZ)

25 Gaza, Bermuda triangle for Gaia-based shark feeding, or the Russian front lines in Ukraine?

Well, if its shark feeding you want, then there is really no alternative than the antebellum slave trade routes says the ~~accredited marine biologist~~ progressive activist Nadine Smith assured us.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 07:59 AM (a6PrB)

26 > On Wednesday, federal prosecutors ended three decades of bureaucratic dormancy by filing the first-ever application with the secretive Alien Terrorist Removal Court. The emergency wartime tool—originally signed into law during Speaker Newt Gingrich’s Congress in 1996 but left buried by previous administrations—empowers the executive branch to present classified intelligence directly to a specialized panel of federal judges under tight seal, completely cutting through the red tape and endless appeals favored by open-borders advocates.
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I have to wonder why this wasn't implemented two years ago when our judicial insurrection shifted into high gear.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 07:59 AM (jehhT)

27 "Georgia voters will continue casting ballots under the state's current vote-counting system for at least two more years after lawmakers approved a plan to delay major election equipment changes until 2028.

Lawmakers had approved that deadline two years ago but never settled on a replacement system"

The GOP is in control in Georgia. They had two years and we are still stuck with Dominion and indecipherable QR codes. This tell you something about the GA GOP.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 07:59 AM (MWfyi)

28 Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

We know how that will turn out. Can we be preventative now, rather than fight later?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:59 AM (u82oZ)

29 How about China as a drop off point? They have a lot of vacant cities and they get free labor. Win/Win for all concerned.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:59 AM (lXoJ5)

30 >>>Democratic Senate contenders are dramatically out-raising their Republican peers, according to Federal Election Commission data — with Georgia’s Jon Ossoff and James Talarico in Texas leading the pack.

Boo freaking hoo. Senate R assholes have squandered nearly 6 years of Trump's presidency, and they can't raise money?

Bet they didn't see that coming.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 20, 2026 08:00 AM (dK+Kv)

31 We know how that will turn out. Can we be preventative now, rather than fight later?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:59 AM (u82oZ)

We including spineless Rs? Doubtful.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 20, 2026 08:00 AM (dK+Kv)

32 The rule, known as “public charge,” appeared in the Federal Register on Thursday. It will be formally published July 20 and take effect Sept. 18. Under the policy, green card applicants must demonstrate they will not become a burden on American taxpayers.

The administration first put the rule in place in February 2020 during President Donald Trump’s first term, part of an effort to limit legal immigration. President Joe Biden reversed it after taking office.

It should also include family and friends.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:01 AM (/+uur)

33 We have an Alien Terrorist Removal Court, and it's never been used, NOT EVEN ONCE, since its establishment 30 years ago? WTAF???

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 20, 2026 08:01 AM (h7ZuX)

34 Well at least I can delude myself with the likes of John Fetterman.

Fetterman would herd you into the railcar at gunpoint just like the rest. He'd just tell you that he holds no special animus towards Israel while he was doing it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 08:01 AM (ExV1e)

35 The left installs a new unelected leader in poor Albion.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:02 AM (RIvkX)

36 Georgia’s Jon Ossoff and James Talarico in Texas leading the pack.

That is NOT Georgia and TX money
That is NY NJ and Cal money

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:02 AM (/+uur)

37 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2026 08:02 AM (h3syt)

38 NR Pax

The Chinese already has an entire country of lying-flat, unemployed labor in need of a job.

Even Xi is not that stupid. And Kim can't get them to farm any better that his subjects can.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:02 AM (u82oZ)

39 I agree, Ben, and I can tell by how hard Fox polling is working to get the Dems over the line...ain't gonna happen.

I wonder how much of this is due to political ads in contested races are between 30-40% of their quarterly revenue?

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 08:03 AM (a6PrB)

40 Nacho and Alred both out raised Cruz. Worked out well for them.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 08:03 AM (abScH)

41 Instead of hitting them where it really hurts ***
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Yes, he knows the best way to take on Iran.
another expert

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:03 AM (826kS)

42 > The potential for China to usurp us in AI isn’t a scary hypothetical for some future decade. It’s our current reality.
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China is actively stealing any and every AI toolset it can hack. They simply do not have the expertise to code it themselves. Nor do they have the infrastructure to run massive AI models.

So they're funding an "anti-datacenter" movement here to slow us down.

They not going to usurp anyone. They're trying to stymie everyone else and buy time to sort their own shit out. Which likely will never happen.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 08:04 AM (jehhT)

43 San Franpsycho

That "consent of the governed" sure is important for a well-run country. Thank you, Founding Fathers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:04 AM (u82oZ)

44 The Spanish team wanted Trump to stay and lift the trophy with them…

This a good reminder for the left that they operate in a small echo chamber

Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:04 AM (WPIH0)

45 🚨FEDERAL JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PAY $14 MILLION OR HAVE HIS UGLY SOUTH SIDE PRESIDENTIAL CENTER SEIZED AND SOLD AT AUCTION — ILLINOIS REPUBLICANS ARE READY TO BUY IT AND BULLDOZE IT INTO A PUBLIC PARK!

This is going to be fun to watch.

A Federal Judge in Chicago has given Barack Obama 10 days to pay the contractors he stiffed for building his monstrosity on the South Side — or the entire property gets seized and sold at auction. Obama apparently doesn’t have $14 million in liquid cash ready to go.

The Illinois Republican Party says they’d be more than happy to buy it, pay off the liens, and bulldoze the whole ugly thing into a nice public park. That would be the perfect ending for this eyesore.

Obama thought he could build a massive taxpayer-funded monument to himself while stiffing the actual workers. Now the judge has ruled he either pays up or loses the building.

Sources close to the family say they can’t come up with that kind of cash that fast. Looks like BHO is about to find out what happens when the bills finally come due.

It will be satisfying to watch the demolition crews knock this thing down.

Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:05 AM (WPIH0)

46 Nacho and Alred both out raised Cruz. Worked out well for them.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 08:03 AM (abScH)

In Texas, when 90% of your funding comes from outside the state, you'll lose...ask Beto!

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 08:06 AM (j10i6)

47 {{{ Dash my lace wigs!}}}

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:06 AM (u82oZ)

48 I think Schumer’s fart is more eloquent than 99% of what is uttered in the senate by either party. Schumer-Swalwell 28!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 08:06 AM (qVlaK)

49 $14 million is nothing. Soros may provide it all himself.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 08:07 AM (MWfyi)

50 48 I think Schumer’s fart is more eloquent than 99% of what is uttered in the senate by either party. Schumer-Swalwell 28!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 08:06 AM (qVlaK

It was the first honest thing he ever "uttered".

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 08:09 AM (FtULh)

51 Barky will get a $15 million book advance for an AI written book five years from now.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 08:09 AM (MWfyi)

52 The Data-Center Revolt Goes National: Tea Party Veteran Leads 142 Rallies Across 42 States

The county-by-county fights over water, power bills, and closed-door deals found a single banner on Saturday - carried by a woman who helped build the Tea Party.

Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:09 AM (WPIH0)

53 SMOD

That would please me mightily. Another cash drain on the backers of KAOS.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:09 AM (u82oZ)

54 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Inogame at July 20, 2026 08:09 AM (53oGX)

55 "A Federal Judge in Chicago has given Barack Obama 10 days to pay the contractors he stiffed for building his monstrosity on the South Side — or the entire property gets seized and sold at auction. Obama apparently doesn’t have $14 million in liquid cash ready to go."

Oh please oh please, O'Lord, let this happen...I ask so very little in life, but please, God, make this one thing happen!

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 08:10 AM (j10i6)

56 It will be satisfying to watch the demolition crews knock this thing down.

Considering the DEI contracting, it makes one wonder if the build quality rivals that of the Three Gorges Dam.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 08:10 AM (nAS9C)

57 Senate Dems rake in jaw-dropping cash — with Ossoff and Talarico leading the pack

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The whole thing makes my heart sink. From the inevitable(?) loss of the House to the very real possibility of barely losing the Senate, and all the cheating apparatus that is still well-oiled and in operation, I just feel like we're heading for such an epic disaster. And do any of these freaks, like AOC and her Kommunist Kids Komrades have a chance at 2028? Just take a look around us. An extremely stupid, uninformed, ignorant population constantly bombarded by media lies tells me, while we may laugh at the notion as impossible...I know it's a very real possibility. There are some days I feel like the country's walls are crumbling down and there just isn't any way to recover. The headwinds to fundamentally transform the USA are gale force winds. And the GOP is either complicit, or utterly useless. We're flapping in the breeze as we careen toward the Communist wall.

Maybe it's just me...

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 08:10 AM (qBdHI)

58 Democratic Senate contenders are dramatically out-raising their Republican peers, according to Federal Election Commission data — with Georgia’s Jon Ossoff and James Talarico in Texas leading the pack.
Eight of the top 10 Senate candidate fundraiser this year are Democrats
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You mean to tell me Thune-momentum just doesn't excite donors?! Shocked, I tell ya, shocked.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 08:10 AM (lutPA)

59 I'm sure there are many, many sources of funding for Obama to lay hands on for is dumpster fire building. Or someone will pay the contractors for him.

The only question is what Obama will do in exchange for the payoff.

Run his mouth is a given.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 08:10 AM (jehhT)

60 >>>Just a reminder but in 2016 jeb! out raised evey single person running for president in the republican primary just to come in last in new hampshire and iowa.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)
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When you get the Lobby money, DC money, Democrat radical money coming your way you will out raise but it is of no indication your level of popularity. Look from where a candidate receives his money and you will know your candidate better.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:10 AM (826kS)

61 It was the first honest thing he ever "uttered".
Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 08:09 AM (FtULh)

Well, it did come from his gut...

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 08:11 AM (j10i6)

62 Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:05 AM (WPIH0)

Link?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 08:11 AM (3Ope8)

63 What’s particularly humorous is Schumer’s little mischievous grin after he commits the deed… I know I’m childish but when is a fart not funny? Unless it’s one you trusted and shouldn’t have…. Joe Biden and Jerry Nadler can speak to that…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 08:11 AM (qVlaK)

64 Seriously annoyed. I think that after some reasonable length of time (5-10 years), journals should have to make articles open access. There's no reason to pay $50-60 for a PDF of something that was published 30 or 40 years ago.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Perhaps, instead of being annoyed at me, you should pay up and stop being annoying to me.

Posted by: Big Journal Lackey at July 20, 2026 08:12 AM (JM9I6)

65 Does Mamdani really think

No.

But I still want the retard to try to walk his talk, because it won't go the way he expects.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2026 08:12 AM (vDZgA)

66 I think Schumer’s fart is more eloquent than 99% of what is uttered in the senate by either party. Schumer-Swalwell 28!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 08:06 AM (qVlaK)

Eloquent, Piquant, you decide.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 08:12 AM (wVcYX)

67 FEDERAL JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PAY $14 MILLION OR HAVE HIS UGLY SOUTH SIDE PRESIDENTIAL CENTER SEIZED AND SOLD AT AUCTION — ILLINOIS REPUBLICANS ARE READY TO BUY IT AND BULLDOZE IT INTO A PUBLIC PARK!

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It could be converted into a prison. Because that's exactly what it looks like.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 08:13 AM (qBdHI)

68 Maybe it's just me...
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 08:10 AM (qBdHI)

I veer back and forth almost randomly between despair and confidence. I see reasons for both

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 08:13 AM (qVlaK)

69 Who did we bomb last night? What did we bomb?
We need BDAs and technicolor videos of stuff being blown up.
Otherwise, it didn't happen.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:13 AM (826kS)

70 "Democratic Senate contenders are dramatically out-raising their Republican peers, according to Federal Election Commission data — with Georgia’s Jon Ossoff and James Talarico in Texas leading the pack."

Just a reminder but in 2016 jeb! out raised evey single person running for president in the republican primary just to come in last in new hampshire and iowa.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 20, 2026 07:56 AM (0N4FZ)

But, unlike jeb!, Democrats have a masterful media strategy.

Take Talarico, for example, who has informed Texans that they need to get right with Allah, attend drag shows, stop eating meat, get rid of their guns, and mourn illegal meth dealers who get shot while attempting to assault the police with their cars.

It's all over.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 08:13 AM (ExV1e)

71 The Democrats thought they could use the DSA to help them destroy Republicans and then they could rule forever.

They're discovering to their horror that their little socialist monster babies want to destroy everything--including both parties--and rule over the rubble.

They are realizing too late that everyone even one millimeter to the right of them is their enemy, even their allies barely a second before.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 08:14 AM (3cUTc)

72 47 {{{ Dash my lace wigs!}}}
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:06 AM (u82oZ)

{{{NaCly Dog}}}

Happy Monday!

*my day off, the only day I get to wallow in the Morning Thread

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 20, 2026 08:15 AM (h7ZuX)

73 Maybe it's just me...
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 08:10 AM (qBdHI)

Have faith LIB...as the meme goes...its the media's job to convince Americans that the wacky beliefs of 10% are actually 90%...

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 08:15 AM (j10i6)

74 Time to pay the fiddler, Obama,
and today's the day the first installment's due.

Posted by: Conway Twitty at July 20, 2026 08:15 AM (JM9I6)

75 Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:05 AM (WPIH0)

Would it be named The Barack Obama Stiffed the Black Community Park?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (ExV1e)

76 I'm reading the NWS area forecast discussion for N IL.
Old and Busted: Heat Dome.
The New Hotness: Undular Bore-Driven Cluster.

Posted by: gp at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (Jr5Lq)

77 The question is not whether Scandinavian socialism can work in the United States (it cannot) but whether Scandinavian socialism can work in Scandinavia. Sweden is a particularly curious choice as a model for democratic socialism. In reality, Sweden shows not only the success of capitalism but also the limits of socialism even in a relatively small nation. Sweden turned away from the type of socialist theories increasingly in vogue in the United States.

Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (WPIH0)

78 Reverse King Midas strikes again.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (wVcYX)

79 Vance is not getting stronger. He runs his yap doing mental calisthenics when he should be leading. Leading is not this or that it's going in one direction. He should be a professor or a congressional ditherer.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (826kS)

80 > Senate Dems rake in jaw-dropping cash — with Ossoff and Talarico leading the pack
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Wasn't there reporting last week, the week before, and the week before that, suggesting the Democrats fundraising machines (like ActBlue, USAid, etc.) were kaput?

What gives?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (jehhT)

81 >>> 75 Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:05 AM (WPIH0)

Would it be named The Barack Obama Stiffed the Black Community Park?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (ExV1e)

What's the big deal, it's not like any of them were his personal chef.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2026 08:18 AM (vDZgA)

82 49 $14 million is nothing. Soros may provide it all himself.
Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 08:07 AM (MWfyi)

He could sell a Martha's Vineyard property, to start with.

I refuse to believe BHO doesn't have $14 million in assets. He's a Dem politician. You know he's got millions in graft squirreled away all over the planet, same as the rest of them.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 20, 2026 08:19 AM (h7ZuX)

83 >>> 76 I'm reading the NWS area forecast discussion for N IL.
Old and Busted: Heat Dome.
The New Hotness: Undular Bore-Driven Cluster.
Posted by: gp at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (Jr5Lq)

Oh yes, the NWS is also very Concerned that it will be hot in summer in Texas.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2026 08:19 AM (vDZgA)

84 I really, really want to like J.D. Vance.

The more he talks the less I like.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:20 AM (RIvkX)

85 Look, Fat, sharting in the hallowed halls of government is a time-honored tradition. Government by the evil brain-dead senile grifter-class is guaranteed by the Founding documents!

Posted by: Joe From Scranton at July 20, 2026 08:20 AM (JM9I6)

86 "Undular Bore-Driven Cluster" used to be our garage band name.

Posted by: Foghat at July 20, 2026 08:20 AM (2Ez/1)

87 >>>The New Hotness: Undular Bore-Driven Cluster.

Posted by: gp
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That sounds like a new technique.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:20 AM (826kS)

88 Even Xi is not that stupid. And Kim can't get them to farm any better that his subjects can.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Organ harvesting it is, then. As long as they are no longer our problem.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 08:20 AM (lXoJ5)

89 Baptist Report Blames ‘Republican-Fueled Islamophobia’ for Attacks on Muslims

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It's reasons like this that I'm not automatically drawn to church-going. I know there are churches out there that are actually Bible-based in teaching. But there are some very nefarious things going on inside so many denominations, from my perspective, that I'd rather eschew these places and do my own Bible study and prayer in the confines of my private life. IOW, it seems to be getting harder to find a church that isn't corrupted into leftist worldviews.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 08:21 AM (qBdHI)

90 Today Is National Fortune Cookie Day. 🥠

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 08:22 AM (NpAcC)

91 > I refuse to believe BHO doesn't have $14 million in assets. He's a Dem politician. You know he's got millions in graft squirreled away all over the planet, same as the rest of them.
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I doubt anyone's buying his sob story. It could also be a callous ploy on his part to grift some more cash from unsuspecting blacks and black-curious white women.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 08:22 AM (jehhT)

92 Speaking of the NYC cluster foulup, here's a Mandami rep.
*faggot alert

@TheStoryFNC
WAR ON SUCCESS

EXCLUSIVE: NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

https://tinyurl.com/7sujzcm5

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:22 AM (826kS)

93 What gives?

Everything is a narrative now. Since information is Power, no one gives away information.

Is ActBlue, USAID kaput? Who knows? And there is no way to know. Even the top Party members have to sign NDAs before they can look at funding. And they lie to each other.

When profit only comes from pushing narrative, getting clicks, and steering buyers but not from being honest, guess what you get more of — to the exclusion of all other?

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 08:23 AM (xE0sV)

94 Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (WPIH0)
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Or, you could just say "Sweden has lower taxes than the U.S."

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 08:23 AM (DB02x)

95 All churches have gone apostate. End of the Church Age was in 1988.

Posted by: Come Out Of Her, My People at July 20, 2026 08:23 AM (JM9I6)

96 I refuse to believe BHO doesn't have $14 million in assets. He's a Dem politician. You know he's got millions in graft squirreled away all over the planet, same as the rest of them.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

When did he and Big Mike ever spend their own money?

They're not going to make it on attendance revenue.

Posted by: Auspex at July 20, 2026 08:23 AM (Y8DZL)

97 Somehow or another, I came across a tweet on X by Errick Errickson basically defending the Odyssey

He's one of those that gets real prickly when his Christianity gets question and, I guess, someone said good something like good Christians won't see it.

So he had to prove his bona fides by saying how he went to church w/ his family, blah, blah.

Proving the maxim:
The louder he proclaimed his Christianity, the closer we watched our silver.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 08:23 AM (3cUTc)

98 87 >>>The New Hotness: Undular Bore-Driven Cluster.

Posted by: gp
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That sounds like a new technique.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:20 AM

####

Is that what you kids are calling it now?

Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at July 20, 2026 08:24 AM (2Ez/1)

99 The third dimension, Sustainability Transparency, was evaluated based on ESG data among standardized KPIs from Statista’s ESG Database and targeted data research. To formulate a comprehensive ESG index, multiple Key Performance Indicators were collected.

Environmental, Social, and Governance
Total bullshit
Impossible to measure
Touchy feely non-business ideas

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:24 AM (/+uur)

100 Last year, a whole lot of state officials and federal regulators got together to set a ceiling for certain wholesale electricity prices to roughly $333 per megawatt-day.

Clearly, they’re responding to voters’ demands to rein in inflation and reduce the cost of living.

Unfortunately, $333/MW-day isn’t high enough to justify investment in new power plants.

Existing power plants are old. Sometimes extremely old. They already own their land, and their construction loans are all paid off. So $333/MW-day is sufficient for them to pay for fuel, conduct maintenance, and turn a small profit.

But $333 isn’t enough to build a new plant– to cover the additional costs of construction, land purchases, permitting, etc.

Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:24 AM (WPIH0)

101 "He could sell a Martha's Vineyard property, to start with."

Not gonna close in 10 days...but could get a lien. Maybe, just get a bridge loan from his buddy, Nazi George.

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 08:24 AM (j10i6)

102 Barky is the ultimate commie
He wants someone else to pay the bill.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2026 08:25 AM (abScH)

103 In other amusing news, "Influencer" Andrew Tate and his brother were arrested by US Marshals and are facing extradition to the UK for sexual assault related charges.

From the article:
"There is no place for male violence against women and girls, and we will continue to work tirelessly to support victims and investigate all reports made to us." Assistant Chief Constable Karena Thomas from Bedfordshire Police

Wow. Amazing what bad press can accomplish in such a short time. The Tate brothers have made a miracle happen.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 08:25 AM (lXoJ5)

104 Good morning Horde thx JJ. Happy Monday.
I said yesterday that I think Mamdani is not only virtue signaling with his threat to arrest Netanyahu, but I think there is another reason. Assume he orders the NYPD to arrest Netanyahu, Commissioner Tisch will refuse and either resign or be fired.
He could put in some DEI flunky on charge. That person could go be the order and the rank and file cops would refuse, or be facing the Secret Service, the FBI and Federal Protection Service.
Chaos is his purpose

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 08:25 AM (//bM7)

105 NR Pax

The detox time will be ... extensive.

I believe the elites would shun organs from homeless people.

Apex predator food is the way. We need to croud source which is the winner for the food. If a big cat, the PPV of their hunt would help with expenses.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:25 AM (u82oZ)

106 I’m tired of the idea that money = election success. Just a couple months ago, John Cornyn out spent Paxton by a 10 - 1 margin, and yet was crushed in their runoff. The left could spend a billion dollars promoting Talarico, and it still won’t get him elected.

Journos love to talk about because it’s something they can measure; and they don’t care whether it means anything or not.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 08:25 AM (f45f9)

107 EXCLUSIVE: NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

https://tinyurl.com/7sujzcm5

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:22 AM (826kS)
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Hey shit-for-brains Gustavo, did no one ever teach you stealing is sin?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 08:25 AM (IFQcP)

108 90 Today Is National Fortune Cookie Day. 🥠
Posted by: redridinghood

I predicted that!

Posted by: The Eyes of Nostrildamus at July 20, 2026 08:25 AM (JM9I6)

109 96 I refuse to believe BHO doesn't have $14 million in assets. He's a Dem politician. You know he's got millions in graft squirreled away all over the planet, same as the rest of them.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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You don't expect him to pay from His assets? Or did he, like his successor, have no donors for this mausoleum?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:26 AM (826kS)

110 The image up top should not be viewed by those with weak stomachs so early in the AM.

Posted by: Queasy Mfume at July 20, 2026 08:27 AM (JM9I6)

111 In the last week of June 2026, one of the world’s most famous antique fairs, the Treasure House Fair, took place in London, attracting collectors and dealers from around the globe. But this year, what attracted attention wasn’t only the antiques; it was the drop in foot traffic. At the time, the New York Times reported that “many dealers are facing a significant drop in foot traffic, or can no longer afford to have a showroom at all.”

The lack of customers for high-end items hints at the shift—the UK has recently surpassed China as the world leader in millionaire emigration. In 2025, roughly 16,500 millionaires left the country. China ranked second, with fewer than half that number.

Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:27 AM (WPIH0)

112 That is NOT Georgia and TX money
That is NY NJ and Cal money

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:02 AM (/+uur)

Try China.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 08:28 AM (AfzoM)

113 106 I’m tired of the idea that money = election success. Just a couple months ago, John Cornyn out spent Paxton by a 10 - 1 margin, and yet was crushed in their runoff. The left could spend a billion dollars promoting Talarico, and it still won’t get him elected.

Journos love to talk about because it’s something they can measure; and they don’t care whether it means anything or not.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 08:25 AM (f45f9)

Just like in sports. Money doesn’t automatically mean a championship. Money doesn’t automatically mean you will get elected. It helps, certainly, but it doesn’t lock anything in.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 08:28 AM (8l6/L)

114 Save farmland? Data centers are predicted to use around 1,400 square miles of land by 2028; farmland already uses around 1.4 million square miles.

Less than the size of
Anchorage AK 1,706.8 sqm

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:29 AM (/+uur)

115 DSA guy Cordillo and his parents fled Peru to avoid the craziness of the Shining Path guerillas. So he comes here and pushes many of the same ideas

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 08:30 AM (//bM7)

116 Hey shit-for-brains Gustavo, did no one ever teach you stealing is sin?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 08:25 AM (IFQcP)

Stealing is totally cool if the police are doing it under orders from the government. Or if any government agency is doing it. Doesn’t it say that in the Eighth Commandment?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 08:30 AM (8l6/L)

117 NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

Actually there is: "The Right to Pursue Life, Liberty and Happiness" and Rights didn't come from the Constitution, the Right comes from the Creator, and the government can not put liens on these Rights since government isn't the author of them.

So Gusstavo clearly doesn't know what a Right is, doesn't know anything about the Constitution, and has no idea how incentives work—other than compulsion from the barrel of a gun.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 08:30 AM (9Hs2w)

118 Long rows of transparent containment chambers reportedly filled an immense exhibition hall, each enclosing a female humanoid whose appearance challenged the very definition of robotics. Visitors allegedly expected exposed actuators, composite frames or polished metallic joints similar to those displayed by contemporary engineering prototypes. Instead, they found figures possessing skin that reflected light with subtle biological imperfections, naturally distributed hair, nearly imperceptible facial asymmetry and eyes that appeared disturbingly capable of maintaining silent attention. Some accounts insisted they were sophisticated androids.

Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:31 AM (WPIH0)

119 BHO was expecting all those DEI contractors to donate time and labor to his temple. He still might contact people to visit them and encourage just that, the Chicago way.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 20, 2026 08:31 AM (gm9Sb)

120 @TheStoryFNC
WAR ON SUCCESS

EXCLUSIVE: NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

https://tinyurl.com/7sujzcm5

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:22 AM (826kS)

That's true. There's also no such thing as constitutional right to take someone else's money so you can be a layabout.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 08:31 AM (ExV1e)

121 95 All churches have gone apostate. End of the Church Age was in 1988.
Posted by: Come Out Of Her, My People at July 20, 2026 08:23 AM (JM9I6)

Coincides with the debut/rise of the Church Lady on SNL

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2026 08:32 AM (x0n13)

122 The new Democratic Socialists in America refer to the common good, or communist good, all the time.
But what do they mean?

Ima take yo shit and give it to my peeps

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:32 AM (/+uur)

123 Mitch dead yet?

Posted by: Champagne Cork Waiting at July 20, 2026 08:32 AM (e2lsi)

124
95 All churches have gone apostate. End of the Church Age was in 1988.
Posted by: Come Out Of Her, My People at July 20, 2026 08:23 AM (JM9I6)

Why 1988? I’m not opposed to the idea that most Christian churches are apostate these days, but what made 1988 significant?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 08:32 AM (f45f9)

125 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2026 08:33 AM (v3afF)

126 Federal Medicaid czar Dr. Mehmet Oz said New York’s overblown $110 billion spending on medical bills is sickening — as he claimed Chinese crime syndicates are ripping off the Empire State. The TV doctor-turned-Trump administration official, blasted New York’s Medicaid program as rife with fraud in an interview Sunday as he outlined an alleged scheme that included millions of dollars in fraudulent medical bills.

Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:33 AM (WPIH0)

127 You know who else fixed wages, prices, and profits?

Hint: it was Hjalmar Schacht

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:34 AM (RIvkX)

128 The question is not whether Scandinavian socialism can work in the United States (it cannot) but whether Scandinavian socialism can work in Scandinavia. Sweden is a particularly curious choice as a model for democratic socialism. In reality, Sweden shows not only the success of capitalism but also the limits of socialism even in a relatively small nation. Sweden turned away from the type of socialist theories increasingly in vogue in the United States.
Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 08:16 AM (WPIH0)

The Snowbilly nations were pretty good labs for demonstrating that socialism works, buuuuut-

only for a while and only under certain conditions.

1) Small racially, religiously, culturally, politically homogeneous population. Everyone is "family".

2) Strong working ethic. Everybody who can works, and is expected to work.

3) Benefits "seem"(?) to outweigh populations cost in taxes.

4)Local Industries aren't hamstrung.

5) Strong patriotism and national pride.

6) Limited benefits.

However, the Snowbillies threw that all away with the vast import of muslim 3rd worlders, and falling for the scam of zero-emissions, and the expansion of benefits for non-workers.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 08:34 AM (iJfKG)

129 That's true. There's also no such thing as constitutional right to take someone else's money so you can be a layabout.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Yet.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 08:35 AM (lXoJ5)

130 EXCLUSIVE: NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

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There's no constitutional right (for the Federal Gov't) to limit anyone's investment returns.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 08:35 AM (qBdHI)

131 San Franpsycho

His actions are definitely in the DSA wheelhouse. Still did not work.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:35 AM (u82oZ)

132 The story's inclusion of the Republicans buying the place might be a clue that the story is a set up for a political attack on the GOP.

Posted by: davidt at July 20, 2026 08:35 AM (Q+gd/)

133 Why 1988? I’m not opposed to the idea that most Christian churches are apostate these days, but what made 1988 significant?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 08:32 AM (f45f9)

George Bush became President? Damn...I knew that guy was a mistake.

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 08:36 AM (j10i6)

134 The Mamdani arresting Netanyahu thing is pure moral posturing and psychological positioning. The commies are trying to subordinate Israelanx elevate themselves, that's all. Of course it will never happen.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 08:36 AM (AfzoM)

135 Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 08:34 AM (iJfKG)

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7) State corporatism and coercion, just like Hjalmar Schacht's

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:37 AM (RIvkX)

136 davidt

It is always something. I believe this idea will be widely popular.

Too bad we can't ship it as an assembled building. I hear North Korea needs guard towers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:38 AM (u82oZ)

137 Today Is National Fortune Cookie Day. 🥠
Posted by: redridinghood

"Chinese crime syndicates with rip of Empire State"

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 08:38 AM (GD0B3)

138 "...Assistant Chief Constable Karena Thomas from Bedfordshire Police..."
+++

When your police chief is named "Karen."

Posted by: She'd like to speak with your manager at July 20, 2026 08:38 AM (2Ez/1)

139 Across America, perfecting an opaque election process has become more important than the system’s fundamental integrity.
The God Of Process Controls American Elections

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Too bad we didn't have anything like, oh, say, the SAVE Act that Thune and the Republicans could've passed that might have softened the blow of unimaginable fraud happening in this country.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 08:38 AM (qBdHI)

140 Happy Monday, all!

Ahhhh. That moment of ignorant bliss before I peruse JJs links and learn about all the crazy stuff happening. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 08:38 AM (X8xt3)

141 *off

sovy no Enrgrish !

Posted by: runner at July 20, 2026 08:38 AM (GD0B3)

142 Mullin revealed that DHS identified over 250,000 noncitizens registered to vote in just four states (California, Nevada, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania).

One batch of 625k AZ voters had over 400k NO MATCH on last 4 SSID.
I have said that (D) keeps 5% fake voters on the roles, but it may be closer to 10%.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:39 AM (/+uur)

143 "I know a lot of people think they're obsolete, but look at this swell new pager somebody sent me".

Zohran Mamdani

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 20, 2026 08:40 AM (gm9Sb)

144 > Mitch dead yet?
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It sort of borders on criminal that the GOP isn't resolving this issue with proof of life or not.

Our political class thinks very highly of themselves.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 08:40 AM (jehhT)

145 Apparently that was a false positive for cyclosporidium.

Our wonderful government at work!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2026 08:40 AM (l4RKn)

146 Mitch dead yet?
Posted by: Champagne Cork Waiting at July 20, 2026 08:32 AM (e2lsi)

One thing is certain...Mitch is dead...dead as a doornail...or none of what memes that follow will make any sense.

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 08:40 AM (j10i6)

147 >>Today Is National Fortune Cookie Day.

"Your future is promising. Lucy numbers 16, 24, 45, 47, 250"

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 08:40 AM (X8xt3)

148 bill in arkansas

*Snort*

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:41 AM (u82oZ)

149
Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

EPIC! This is how EVERY insufferable leftist agitator should be handled by federal agents

Step in front of a federal vehicle to obstruct = get knocked out of the way

https://tinyurl.com/57ds7tyj
No remorse at all. She asked for it!

Most of us avoid being pummeled to the ground by federal law enforcement by NOT GETTING IN THEIR WAY.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 08:42 AM (NpAcC)

150 The Never-Ending Pasta Pass is only for use by the Passholder whose name is printed on the Pass. Passes are personalized and non-transferable. Passholders must present a valid photo I.D. along with the Pass at the time of ordering.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:42 AM (/+uur)

151 Andrew Cuomo was just in Maria's show. He's involved with crypto now. Somehow that seems appropriate.
However he did say he agreed with a lot of what Fetterman was saying about the communist drift if the Dems. Not that he will do anything about it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 08:42 AM (//bM7)

152 Good morning! We have a tropical storm watch this week. Yay! Of course, J leaves for Boston today, so if things go pear shaped, I guess I am the one putting hurricane shutters on! Which means the ones for the top floor will not go on.

Posted by: Piper at July 20, 2026 08:43 AM (hftzA)

153 Every election Gearge Bush won was by overt reaction against the previous Democrat administration. Texas too. He was the relief valve from oppressive DSC in normie clothing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:43 AM (826kS)

154 The dems are not going to win the house.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Two or 3 months ago they were all crowing that they needed +10% or so on the generic ballot to win the House.
Just as a poll came out showing they were +10%.

Now, all the polls show them at +3%.
But they got their narrative set that they are going to win the House.

I pointed it out long ago that, of the 8 seats the R took to flip in 2024, only 4 were by less than 3%.
One of those is in AK.
All 4 incumbents are running.

Dems gerrymandering prevented a Trump Wave in the House.
But somehow, "everyone knows" that it is these other seats somewhere that are going to flip from R to D.
Because they're gonna win the seats they already hold something something ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 08:43 AM (3cUTc)

155 “So, do they really have a shot at winning the next couple of elections”

Of course they do. A good one. Despite all the whistling past the graveyard displayed here.

Posted by: Reality Check at July 20, 2026 08:43 AM (rf/GM)

156 Why 1988? I’m not opposed to the idea that most Christian churches are apostate these days, but what made 1988 significant?

Isarel 3.0 became a sovereign state in 1948.
Add "This Generation" of arbitrarily forty years and you get 1988.

1988, as many recall, was the date that the Rapture was scheduled to occur.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 08:43 AM (pawvM)

157 Yep, cover pic is gross and over the top.
It should be deleted.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:44 AM (826kS)

158 https://tinyurl.com/57ds7tyj
No remorse at all. She asked for it!

Most of us avoid being pummeled to the ground by federal law enforcement by NOT GETTING IN THEIR WAY.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 08:42 AM (NpAcC)
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She should not have been able to walk away.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:44 AM (RIvkX)

159
Maybe Mamdani is trying to get Tuq'r Qatarlson's attention?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2026 08:45 AM (x0n13)

160 Actually there is: "The Right to Pursue Life, Liberty and Happiness" and Rights didn't come from the Constitution, the Right comes from the Creator, and the government can not put liens on these Rights since government isn't the author of them.

So Gusstavo clearly doesn't know what a Right is, doesn't know anything about the Constitution, and has no idea how incentives work—other than compulsion from the barrel of a gun.
Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 08:30 AM (9Hs2w)

That's in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 08:45 AM (ExV1e)

161 I see Dua Lipa, since her 15m of fame are up, is talking about banned books...like The Handmaid's Tale.

Helpful posters all over the internet are taking her video and adding a link to Amazon for the book pointing out you can get this "banned book" with free fast shipping for a low, low price

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 08:45 AM (sKqQm)

162 152 Good morning! We have a tropical storm watch this week. Yay! Of course, J leaves for Boston today, so if things go pear shaped, I guess I am the one putting hurricane shutters on! Which means the ones for the top floor will not go on.

Posted by: Piper
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Bastardi says, the likelihood of hurricane minimal, just a storm.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:46 AM (826kS)

163 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 08:46 AM (2YhKe)

164 Andrew Cuomo was just in Maria's show. He's involved with crypto now. Somehow that seems appropriate.
However he did say he agreed with a lot of what Fetterman was saying about the communist drift if the Dems. Not that he will do anything about it
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 08:42 AM (//bM7)
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Cuomo is guilty of crimes against humanity and should be hanged.

Maria is hot for anything "crypto" adjacent

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:46 AM (RIvkX)

165 The lettuce now being recalled by Taylor Farms in California has also hatched a number of lawsuits filed in federal court against Taco Bell, which allegedly used the shredded lettuce contaminated with a parasite called cyclospora.

How many illegals work at Taylor Farms?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 08:46 AM (sKqQm)

166 I don't know. But the SSPX is looking better and better.

Old timey Catholicism.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:46 AM (qFwJc)

167 Why 1988? I’m not opposed to the idea that most Christian churches are apostate these days, but what made 1988 significant?

Isarel 3.0 became a sovereign state in 1948.
Add "This Generation" of arbitrarily forty years and you get 1988.

1988, as many recall, was the date that the Rapture was scheduled to occur.
Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 08:43 AM (pawvM)

Sorry. Sorry everyone.

But, if you're still here...you got Left Behind!!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 08:47 AM (iJfKG)

168 San Franpsycho

My empathy for those protesters, and the media filming, is a big negative number. But no math on the blog.

This is proof that Trump is not a tyrant. If we reverse the symmetry, Biden would have them all in prison. We are not the same.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:47 AM (u82oZ)

169 Why 1988? I’m not opposed to the idea that most Christian churches are apostate these days, but what made 1988 significant?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 08:32 AM (f45f9)

I do not know what JM9I6 had in mind with the comment, but I recall that there was an expectation that the Rapture would happen by 1988 because that marked 40 years (one generation) since the creation of the most recent state of Israel. I think it was a statement from Jesus about seeing the olive tree putting forth its leaves and "this generation will not pass away" before uh, stuff happens. I'm a bit hazy without looking up the reference.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 20, 2026 08:47 AM (OlzlW)

170 Democratic Senate contenders are dramatically out-raising their Republican peers, according to Federal Election Commission data — with Georgia’s Jon Ossoff and James Talarico in Texas leading the pack.

Whenever I go to lefty forums they tell me:

1) The right is controlled by the rich

2) Money shouldn't be allowed in elections

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 08:47 AM (sKqQm)

171 Because they're gonna win the seats they already hold something something ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 08:43 AM (3cUTc)

The hilarious tell is Tom Souzzi running to the right of Bruce Blakeman in New York! I mean, that guy is greasy Newsome light, and when he smells trouble, no Breel creme tube is safe!

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 08:47 AM (j10i6)

172 Democratic Senate contenders are dramatically out-raising their Republican peers, according to Federal Election Commission data — with Georgia’s Jon Ossoff and James Talarico in Texas leading the pack.
Eight of the top 10 Senate candidate fundraiser this year are Democrats, whose top contestants have raked in $574 million, compared to the Republicans’ $336 million, per the FEC.

But I thought it was BAD when politicians and billionaires bought elections.

This is telling me that the voting public are sheep and $$$$ buys elections, not quality of legislation. Because Democrats are destroying America yet the billionaires are filling their coffers and they're expected to WIN elections and continue destroying America.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 08:48 AM (2YhKe)

173 My dad joined the Marine Corps back in 1952 "to kill Communists". Is there some reason we're not immediately... removing from breathing duty... anyone who openly admits they are a communist? They admit they despise the country, Americans, and are trying to tear capitalism and our Western infrastructure down.

Posted by: Murmillo con indigestione at July 20, 2026 08:48 AM (IWfdg)

174 naturalfake

Rapture did not happen. FenelonSpoke is still here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:48 AM (u82oZ)

175 https://tinyurl.com/57ds7tyj
No remorse at all. She asked for it!

Most of us avoid being pummeled to the ground by federal law enforcement by NOT GETTING IN THEIR WAY.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 20, 2026 08:42 AM (NpAcC)
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She should not have been able to walk away.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:44 AM (RIvkX)

Why are they almost always fat and ugly?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 08:48 AM (TCUO6)

176 ====

She should not have been able to walk away.

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Right.
Paddy wagons exist for a reason.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:48 AM (826kS)

177 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 08:46 AM (2YhKe)
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When I went to Walmart yesterday, I made out a shopping list, which I normally don't do.

At the top of the list?

SPONGE! (I needed some sponges for cleaning supplies)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 08:49 AM (FZ29D)

178 Mommy Doktor Jilly, maybe it's been cyclospora in my shorts all this time!

Posted by: Explosive Joe at July 20, 2026 08:49 AM (JM9I6)

179 How many rights does the Constitution give us?

None.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:49 AM (qFwJc)

180 >>EXCLUSIVE: NYC DSA Co-Chair @unionGustavo [Gustavo Gordillo] says there’s no such thing as constitutional right “to double digit returns” on investment…

Yeah, and YOU don't have a constitutional right to decide how much others can make on their investments.

Of all the issues in NYC, this guy is laser-focused on how much landlords make? Yeah, this is all window-dressing to cover what you really mean: you don't have a right to be a landlord, and we're creating cutesy ways to separate you from your property.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 08:49 AM (X8xt3)

181 @164, agreed. Crypto is the only industry that I can think of that runs to the government and says "regulate us". Seems like someone is trying to get an edge

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 08:49 AM (//bM7)

182 I see Dua Lipa, since her 15m of fame are up, is talking about banned books...like The Handmaid's Tale.

Helpful posters all over the internet are taking her video and adding a link to Amazon for the book pointing out you can get this "banned book" with free fast shipping for a low, low price
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 08:45 AM (sKqQm)

My novel got shadow banned by Amazon.

Maybe Ol' Dua can do a video about it and make me a gajillionaire.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 08:49 AM (iJfKG)

183 On the lettuce front, the FDA just apologized for a false positive on that batch of lettuce they had identified.

We're back to not really knowing where it's coming from.

Posted by: GWB at July 20, 2026 08:50 AM (kU0PQ)

184 President Donald J. Trump has threatened to impose additional tariffs on Canada, accusing the country of negligence in managing its forests and allowing wildfire smoke to blanket U.S. cities.

Democrats luv them some Mutha Erff except when it comes to land management, illegal migration, forest management, animal welfare, and farming.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:50 AM (/+uur)

185 Was thinking of splurging on some ice cream later, but the top pic has me back on the diet.

Posted by: Cookie Puss at July 20, 2026 08:50 AM (JM9I6)

186 >>> 114 Save farmland? Data centers are predicted to use around 1,400 square miles of land by 2028; farmland already uses around 1.4 million square miles.

Less than the size of
Anchorage AK 1,706.8 sqm
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 08:29 AM (/+uur)

I'd still prefer them to be put within city limits and I do not apologize for NIMBY-ness. Why should we give up *any* farmland when there's urban space available to be "reclaimed"? There's an ugly ass mess in a rural area which I've driven by several times, and which was placed there a few years ago as a result of shenanigans by a commie who managed to get elected to a local office.

If we get a good network of mini-nukes out of this silliness that will be nice to have.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2026 08:50 AM (vDZgA)

187 Here's a brief discussion about Matthew 24:34:

https://www.gotquestions.org/
this-generation-not-pass.html

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (OlzlW)

188 If one of these DSA commies gets elected, will he/she take the oath of office and swear to "protect and defend the Constitution?"

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (qFwJc)

189 The hilarious tell is Tom Souzzi running to the right of Bruce Blakeman in New York! I mean, that guy is greasy Newsome light, and when he smells trouble, no Breel creme tube is safe!
Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 08:47 AM (j10i6)
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Suozzi was the Republican local pol who was going to attend my Eagle Scout Court of Honor, I told the scout leaders he was a crypto-fascist and I wasn't having it. They told me to stfu.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (RIvkX)

190 Democrats are considered likely to retake the House in the Nov. 3 elections, due to polls and the historical trend of the party in power in the White House losing seats in the midterms.

Let us not forget anger at a useless GOP that refuses to do even the bare minimum to satisfy voters.

I honestly think the MAGA movement dies in 2028, due to election losses, refusal to address voter concerns and, most especially, an observation that there is no pressure of sufficient strength to get the GOP opposing Dems in any meaningful way.

It's the same bushwa we've seen ever since I was a child: "You gotta vote R no matter what! You don't want the D's to win, do ya?"

FTS

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (qRla/)

191 https://tinyurl.com/57ds7tyj
No remorse at all. She asked for it!

Most of us avoid being pummeled to the ground by federal law enforcement by NOT GETTING IN THEIR WAY./i]

Back during the J6 protests the left told me it was not only acceptable but a good thing to shoot a peaceful unarmed protestor in the neck if she was impeding government operations. By the left's own standards we are being way, way too soft on the invaders and their traitorous domestic allies

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (sKqQm)

192 When I went to Walmart yesterday, I made out a shopping list, which I normally don't do.

At the top of the list?

SPONGE! (I needed some sponges for cleaning supplies)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 08:49 AM (FZ29D)

Elaine Benes once purchased the entire remaining stock of sponges… much to the disgust of the store proprietor!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (TCUO6)

193 no one of any consequence

Nay, bro. The one right in the unamended Constitution was the right to a patent (intellectual property).

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (u82oZ)

194 @Rothmus Jul 17

On this day [July 17] in 1918 the Bolsheviks herded Tsar Nicholas II, Empress Alexandra, and their five children into a basement in Yekaterinburg and opened fire.

The bullets bounced because the girls had diamonds sewn into their corsets. So the reds finished the job with bayonets, stabbing, crushing skulls, and butchering the children while they were still alive.

Then they stripped the bodies, doused them in acid, burned what remained, and dumped the remains in a forest to hide the crime.

This was the deliberate, sadistic murder of an entire family, including a sick little boy, by communist animals who needed the blood of innocents to cement their power.

Never forget what the Bolsheviks were.

Never forgive it

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:52 AM (826kS)

195 >>I see Dua Lipa, since her 15m of fame are up, is talking about banned books...like The Handmaid's Tale.

All the popstars and actresses have to demonstrate their feminist cred. This was LAME.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 08:52 AM (X8xt3)

196 If one of these DSA commies gets elected, will he/she take the oath of office and swear to "protect and defend the Constitution?"
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (qFwJc)
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No one takes their oaths of office seriously at all.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:52 AM (RIvkX)

197 Letting protesters up to the vehicle gate, literally right in the driveway, is sort of stupid.

Put them across the street and shoot them if they advance.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 08:52 AM (jehhT)

198 Remember that Hillary raised and spent over a billion dollars to lose to Trump.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:53 AM (qFwJc)

199 https://tinyurl.com/57ds7tyj
No remorse at all. She asked for it!

When are they going to follow the money and RICO these assholes?

ALL this shit goes away when it's not profitable anymore.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 08:53 AM (2YhKe)

200 All the popstars and actresses have to demonstrate their feminist cred. This was LAME.

I give Rose McGowan some credit.

She repointed the PoundMeToo movement from Get Trump to Get Harv

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 08:53 AM (sKqQm)

201 Remember that Hillary raised and spent over a billion dollars to lose to Trump.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:53 AM (qFwJc)
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Didn't FJB/KH also spend more than that to lose to President Trump?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 08:54 AM (FZ29D)

202 "No one takes their oaths of office seriously at all."

Perhaps they should. Dante places traitors into the lowest level of hell.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:54 AM (qFwJc)

203 At the top of the list?

SPONGE! (I needed some sponges for cleaning supplies)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 08:49 AM (FZ29D)

I am infamous.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 08:55 AM (2YhKe)

204 Right.
Paddy wagons exist for a reason.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:48 AM (826kS)
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Not really what I meant but let's go with that.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 08:55 AM (RIvkX)

205 Here's a brief discussion about Matthew 24:34:

https://www.gotquestions.org/
this-generation-not-pass.html
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (OlzlW)

When it comes to eschatology, I’ve retired to my little corner of ignorance where I simply cite “… no man knows the day nor the hour”… pre-trib, post-trib, pre-millennial, amillenial et al… I’m not adamant about anything other than eventually Christ will return

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 08:55 AM (TCUO6)

206 Letting protesters up to the vehicle gate, literally right in the driveway, is sort of stupid.

Put them across the street and shoot them if they advance.

As someone once put it, "You've got guns. Use them. We give you guns for a reason. Use them"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 08:55 AM (sKqQm)

207 It's just another Merlot Monday.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at July 20, 2026 08:55 AM (2Ez/1)

208 It's the same bushwa we've seen ever since I was a child: "You gotta vote R no matter what! You don't want the D's to win, do ya?"

FTS

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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So, you prefer the DSC?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:56 AM (826kS)

209 Didn't Jeb! spend like $200 m to get two delegates? Them Republican consultants are some of the best grifters out there

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 08:56 AM (//bM7)

210 I like a 6" x 3.5" sponge for cleaning the countertops. Walmart and Piggly Wiggly don't have them. I found them at an IGA.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:56 AM (qFwJc)

211 >>> 197 Letting protesters up to the vehicle gate, literally right in the driveway, is sort of stupid.

Put them across the street and shoot them if they advance.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 08:52 AM (jehhT)

Why can't we haz bounties for these idiots, too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2026 08:57 AM (vDZgA)

212 If one of these DSA commies gets elected, will he/she take the oath of office and swear to "protect and defend the Constitution?"

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:51 AM (qFwJc)

Of course they will. Their native tongue is lies.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 08:57 AM (AfzoM)

213 For the left, if the govt doesn’t provide something for free it’s banned. So if a book isn’t in a public library paid for by tax payers it’s “banned”.
Much like how if the govt doesn’t provide “free” birth control pills, birth control is banned or women have “no access to” birth control.

Oh plenty of access girl, you just need to pay the $10 cost yourself.

Posted by: Reality Check at July 20, 2026 08:57 AM (rf/GM)

214 I like the idea of putting cow catchers on the front of ICE vehicles. The woman in the vid was definitely a cow

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 08:57 AM (//bM7)

215
I like a 6" x 3.5" sponge for cleaning the countertops. Walmart and Piggly Wiggly don't have them. I found them at an IGA.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 20, 2026 08:56 AM (qFwJc)

I think the takeaway here is that Sponge is shorter than AtC.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 08:58 AM (iJfKG)

216 >>> 197 Letting protesters up to the vehicle gate, literally right in the driveway, is sort of stupid.

Put them across the street and shoot them if they advance.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 08:52 AM (jehhT)

Why can't we haz bounties for these idiots, too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2026 08:57 AM (vDZgA)
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"Make Necklaces of Protestors' Ears Great Again!" doesn't quite roll off the tongue...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 08:58 AM (FZ29D)

217 18-1

The actions of General Flavius Belisarius at the Nika Riots gave the Eastern Roman Empire 800 more years of existence. Just saying.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 08:58 AM (u82oZ)

218
I think the takeaway here is that Sponge is shorter than AtC.

Sad.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 08:58 AM (iJfKG)

I am not......that's a distant relative.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 08:58 AM (2YhKe)

219 197 Letting protesters up to the vehicle gate, literally right in the driveway, is sort of stupid.

Put them across the street and shoot them if they advance.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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I was going to say bring them in the gate and lock them up but lining them up may be a better solution.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:58 AM (826kS)

220 206 Letting protesters up to the vehicle gate, literally right in the driveway, is sort of stupid.

Put them across the street and shoot them if they advance.

As someone once put it, "You've got guns. Use them. We give you guns for a reason. Use them"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 08:55 AM
++++

As long as they don't have real bullets.

Posted by: Rebecca Good at July 20, 2026 08:59 AM (2Ez/1)

221 >>> 216

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"Make Necklaces of Protestors' Ears Great Again!" doesn't quite roll off the tongue...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 08:58 AM (FZ29D)

Hey, I never specified how to *claim* the bounties...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2026 08:59 AM (vDZgA)

222 Democrats are considered likely to retake the House in the Nov. 3 elections, due to polls and the historical trend of the party in power in the White House losing seats in the midterms.
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That "historical trend" is almost entirely built on 1st term losses.
Second term sees very little losses and sometimes gains.

And, as I noted above, the Dems themselves were arguing they needed 10% months ago; they only have 3%--and falling--now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 08:59 AM (3cUTc)

223 It's all part of the plan:

@JCAndersonNYC
A DSA strategy session to decomodify housing happened at the People's Forum.

Makes sense https://tinyurl.com/3z35hm9e

This was 3 years ago.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 08:59 AM (X8xt3)

224
Why can't we haz bounties for these idiots, too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2026 08:57 AM (vDZgA)

Immediately arrest them for obstruction.

They'll eventually get to know the 3 strike rule, if that's even still a thing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 08:59 AM (2YhKe)

225 That's in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

The Revolutionary War was fought over the Declaration of Independence, not the US Constitution.

The whole predicate for the existence of this country was the mission statement behind the Declaration of Independence.

The US Constitution is an artifact of that famous press release which binds the government to respect the 1776 charter.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 09:01 AM (a6PrB)

226 Didn't Jeb! spend like $200 m to get two delegates? Them Republican consultants are some of the best grifters out there

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 08:56 AM (//bM7)

Bloomberg was a $1bn failure.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:01 AM (2YhKe)

227 "It is intolerable!"

Let me know when we decide to stop tolerating it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 20, 2026 09:01 AM (fZiTB)

228 I think the takeaway here is that Sponge is shorter than AtC.

Sad.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2026 08:58 AM (iJfKG)
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I heard he was heightening.

Posted by: Mickey at July 20, 2026 09:02 AM (RIvkX)

229 Speaking of sponges, my daughter told me there’s a recent episode of SpongeBob SquarePants where the characters go around mooning people. I’m not sure what to think about this….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 09:04 AM (hxAVk)

230 I like the idea of putting cow catchers on the front of ICE vehicles. The woman in the vid was definitely a cow

Have a non-winter use of the truck mounted snow blowers that have the auger/impeller system.

Not exactly a tree-chipper, but yields the equivalent shock-and-awe when deployed properly.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 09:05 AM (nAS9C)

231 All churches have gone apostate. End of the Church Age was in 1988.

The Church has gone to hell since Vatican II.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 20, 2026 09:05 AM (qRla/)

232 Scumbag Linda Sarsour wants to get rid of the Declaration of Independence and replace it with something more modern. Not smart enough to realize that she probably means the Constitution.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 09:05 AM (//bM7)

233 Speaking of sponges, my daughter told me there’s a recent episode of SpongeBob SquarePants where the characters go around mooning people. I’m not sure what to think about this….

To be clear I have never seen a sponge, starfish or squirrel wearing pants to begin with...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 09:05 AM (sKqQm)

234 Speaking of sponges, my daughter told me there’s a recent episode of SpongeBob SquarePants where the characters go around mooning people. I’m not sure what to think about this….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 09:04 AM (hxAVk)

Just getting kids used to seeing naked people walking around......Every blue city will become the Fulsom St. Fair.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:06 AM (2YhKe)

235 I write my shopping list in the order of the supermarket aisles.
Sponge! is NEVER at the top of the list-more like 3/4 of the way down.

Posted by: Sorry! at July 20, 2026 09:06 AM (JM9I6)

236 The Democratic Socialists of America know nothing, have built nothing and don’t understand the country they live in, yet they imagine they have the moral authority to tear it down.
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Miranda Devine puts it plainly. One of these days it might be "Kill a Commie for JJ's Birthday" day.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 09:06 AM (LfeJW)

237 A DSA strategy session to decomodify housing happened at the People's Forum.

Are they planning to decomodify beach front estates for themselves?

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 09:07 AM (nAS9C)

238 Mornin’, All. Happy Monday.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:07 AM (77rzZ)

239 Community Notes

Pumper trucks with blue dye in the water work well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 09:07 AM (u82oZ)

240 Bloomberg was a $1bn failure.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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There are the bold faced fools and politicians who have egregiously offended the electorate (Cornyn). But in, possibly the majority, other ballot contests where the two candidates appear normal,
It comes down to the best ad campaign flooding the market.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:07 AM (826kS)

241 Not exactly a tree-chipper, but yields the equivalent shock-and-awe when deployed properly.
Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 09:05 AM (nAS9C)

Top Gear used an anti-mine vehicle to tear down a house once. That thing would be PERFECT for this.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:07 AM (2YhKe)

242 Baptist Report Blames ‘Republican-Fueled Islamophobia’ for Attacks on Muslims

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Damn Jew Baptists!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 09:08 AM (ndZc7)

243 Rachel Corrie could become the training example for ICE agents.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 09:08 AM (LfeJW)

244 238 Mornin’, All. Happy Monday.

Posted by: Bulg
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Is the engine a flat six?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:08 AM (826kS)

245 I write my shopping list in the order of the supermarket aisles.
Sponge! is NEVER at the top of the list-more like 3/4 of the way down.
Posted by: Sorry! at July 20, 2026 09:06 AM (JM9I6)

Such is life.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:08 AM (2YhKe)

246 So, you prefer the DSC?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 08:56 AM (826kS)

My point is that we are constantly told that voting R is the only way to save the country from disaster. So we vote R, and the cocksuckers spend the next 2, 4 or 6 years sitting on their fat asses growing their investment portfolios and pretending to oppose the Dems before giving up with a pallid excuse.

As the Empress said, it's nothing but bukakke theater for the rubes and I am sick of it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 20, 2026 09:09 AM (qRla/)

247 235 Shopping lists should be in alphabetical order.

If I had my way, stores would be arranged in alphabetical order, too.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:10 AM (77rzZ)

248 Rachel Corrie could become the training example for ICE agents.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 20, 2026 09:08 AM (LfeJW)

Or see the Corey Lewandowski demo with Michelle Fields…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 20, 2026 09:10 AM (qVlaK)

249 I get that protesting is an age old ritual, but I seriously think we've let it go too far. Gone are the days of drum circles and idiots walking back and forth with hand made signage.

Now, it's all up in your face with a megaphone and a camera.

That's not protesting. It's incitement.

There really needs to be some consequences for what the left is doing to hinder ICE or any other activity they are against... if they resort to the types of incitement we keep seeing.

Since they're ok with a few deaths to make their point... so am I.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 09:11 AM (jehhT)

250 Mrs. F. purchases cleaning supplies.

My shopping list is meat, candy, frozen foods, pasta, cans, and dairy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 09:11 AM (RIvkX)

251 I love the mamdami guy. He's everything the NYC Democrats deserve. Homeless everywhere, rats in the streets, garbage piling up, criminals in the public transportation. How's the pothole situation? My hope is that he gets waterboarded by the mossad.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 09:11 AM (sYM3s)

252 azcentral@azcentral

Ruben Gallego's campaign spending is in the spotlight as he weighs a potential bid for president in 2028.

hey oh, he looks like a man

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:11 AM (826kS)

253 There are the bold faced fools and politicians who have egregiously offended the electorate (Cornyn). But in, possibly the majority, other ballot contests where the two candidates appear normal,
It comes down to the best ad campaign flooding the market.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:07 AM (826kS)

yes - and I'll add that the mainstream GOP has specialized in running generically bland candidates who have no clue how to run an actual political campaign. They throw money at consultants whose only true goal is to enrich consultants.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 09:12 AM (edUvp)

254
The most guy-like thing I've seen from Chuck Schumer was him slightly chuckling when he let it loose.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 09:12 AM (Fi81e)

255 My point is that we are constantly told that voting R is the only way to save the country from disaster. So we vote R, and the cocksuckers spend the next 2, 4 or 6 years sitting on their fat asses growing their investment portfolios and pretending to oppose the Dems before giving up with a pallid excuse.

The problem is that it is in the personal financial interests of congress to at least maintain spending and usually to increase it.

We hope to vote for people with integrity and they'll do what they are elected to do but as you point out this doesn't really work.

So we need to find a way to make the system incentivize spending cuts for congress.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 09:12 AM (sKqQm)

256 I'm sorry. I'm pissed off, massively depressed and suffering from a cold today. There's no reason I should be here bringing things down.

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM (qRla/)

257 251 I love the mamdami guy. He's everything the NYC Democrats deserve. Homeless everywhere, rats in the streets, garbage piling up, criminals in the public transportation. How's the pothole situation? My hope is that he gets waterboarded by the mossad.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
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The millionaires could have stopped him but they chose to flee.
Now, those fleas are going to infest the body politic somewhere else.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM (826kS)

258 Ruben Gallego's campaign spending is in the spotlight as he weighs a potential bid for president in 2028.

hey oh, he looks like a man
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:11 AM (826kS)

Oh yeah, that's what we need in the oval office, a drunk Mexican on the cartel's payroll.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM (edUvp)

259 How long is this back-and-forth with Iran going to go on? Is there an end game? I heard Trump talk many times over the years about not getting into a war without a plan and commitment to win it. It's fair to ask at this point, what is the plan? If it's to indefinitely respond to Iranian incidents of aggression (supposedly the same Iran with the obliterated military) with our nighttime bombing raids, okay, just let us know.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM (fZiTB)

260 256 I'm sorry. I'm pissed off, massively depressed and suffering from a cold today. There's no reason I should be here bringing things down.

Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM (qRla

We all have bad days....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 09:14 AM (fi211)

261 TBH the whole of the Dem party works with the cartels...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 09:14 AM (sKqQm)

262
As the Empress said, it's nothing but bukakke theater for the rubes and I am sick of it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 20, 2026 09:09 AM (qRla/)

The only option here is for the squishes to be primaried. I will ALWAYS vote for the Republican as in EVERY case, the Democrat is WORSE.

Does it SUCK BALLS? Of course it does. It is unfortunate that these have been our choices for generations, but hopefully, times are changing and the assholes on our side are getting voted OUT.

I refuse to sit back and just watch the DSA take over because Republican incumbents usually suck.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:14 AM (2YhKe)

263
Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM

We'll talk you through it, or distract you from it for a spell.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:15 AM (2YhKe)

264 I will call over broken glass to vote for (R) Justin Murphy for Senate in NJ He is an excellent, articulate candidate and would be a whole lot better than Cory Booker. Plus, it's a irrelevant point , but I think he's a nice looking man.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 09:15 AM (rl4Uc)

265 Tom Servo

There are mainly three organizations trying to take over America. Cartels, Commies, and Islam.

We need more inter-factional warfare.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 09:15 AM (u82oZ)

266 Posted by: Ordinary American at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM (fZiTB)
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This has "forever war" written all over it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 09:16 AM (RIvkX)

267 Feel better MPPPP

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2026 09:16 AM (//bM7)

268 264- crawl not call.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 09:16 AM (As86G)

269 The problem is that it is in the personal financial interests of congress to at least maintain spending and usually to increase it.

We hope to vote for people with integrity and they'll do what they are elected to do but as you point out this doesn't really work.

So we need to find a way to make the system incentivize spending cuts for congress.

Posted by: 18-1
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DOGE, saw an article squealing that DOGE people were still infesting government. These bureaucrats are burrowed in deep and difficult to dig out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:16 AM (826kS)

270 So we need to find a way to make the system incentivize spending cuts for congress.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 20, 2026 09:12 AM (sKqQm)

What we need is more candidates like Paxton who is hated by everyone in the establishment, and thus goes in with a self serving incentive to blow all their shit up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 09:16 AM (edUvp)

271 The Revolutionary War was fought over the Declaration of Independence, not the US Constitution.

Maybe so, but you don't get to find Constitutionally guaranteed rights in the penumbras of the Declaration. Only Leftist judges can do that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 09:16 AM (ExV1e)

272 Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM

We'll talk you through it, or distract you from it for a spell.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:15 AM (2YhKe)
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I admire MPPP's bile.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 09:16 AM (RIvkX)

273 That "historical trend" is almost entirely built on 1st term losses. Second term sees very little losses and sometimes gains.

—

Bush Jr lost 5 senate seats and 31 house seats in his 2nd term. Obama lost 13 house and 9 senate seats in his second term.

Clinton bucked the trend in 1998 but that was a weird one time thing with impeachment backlash.

Reagan lost 8 senate seats in 1986. He only lost 5 house seats but in 1986 Dems already controlled the house with a solid majority. There wasn’t much to lose on the Republicans side.

Posted by: Reality Check at July 20, 2026 09:17 AM (rf/GM)

274 Democrats Blame Trump for Recalled Mexican Lettuce Causing ‘Explosive Diarrhea’

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In fairness, Trump worked at McDonald's, not Taco Bell.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 09:17 AM (ndZc7)

275 MP4, at least stick around for the inevitable boob talk on the Art Thread.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:18 AM (77rzZ)

276 274 Democrats Blame Trump for Recalled Mexican Lettuce Causing ‘Explosive Diarrhea’

Is there nothing he can't do.....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 20, 2026 09:18 AM (fi211)

277 I love the mamdami guy. He's everything the NYC Democrats deserve. Homeless everywhere, rats in the streets, garbage piling up, criminals in the public transportation. How's the pothole situation? My hope is that he gets waterboarded by the mossad.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
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Soon enough they will start seizing rental properties that the city will not be able to afford to maintain. After they rip it away from landlords for failure to maintain it, because they 1) can't credit-check prospective renters and 2) can't evict and have to keep paying utilities for deadbeat tenants, and can't raise your rents for people who are paying you.

New York could become like an indoors LA.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 09:18 AM (Fi81e)

278 - 1988

There was also 2007. 40 years after Israel retook Jerusalem.

Emmie, see Matt 24. The "this generation" verse is 34.
Don't ignore the verse before it. Many ignore it in an attempt to say everything in the chapter has already happened.

They have to do some serious allegorizing of prophetic scripture, among other things, to do so.
And those who push the pre-trib version of the rapture are just as guilty.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 20, 2026 09:18 AM (dAv7M)

279 Ordinary American

Rational OP Plans struggle against irrational leaders.

The smartest thing the IRCG could do is surrender. They can then hold power with machine guns. Rebuild. But they don't think that way.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 09:19 AM (u82oZ)

280 51 years ago today Neil Armstrong ensured he would never pay for a beer for the rest of his life.

https://youtu.be/-f_DPrSEOEo

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2026 09:20 AM (2Ez/1)

281 Reality is a phantasm. The world ended in 1975.

Posted by: The JWs at July 20, 2026 09:20 AM (RIvkX)

282 Posted by: Reality Check at July 20, 2026 09:17 AM (rf/GM)

We're doomed then. May as well stop my cancer treatments.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 20, 2026 09:21 AM (ExV1e)

283 The left is mad that Trump “photo bombed” Spain as they raised the World Cup trophy. He kinda did. I was watching it and thought shit DT you need to move out of the way. The whole presentation was really clumsy, too many people doing too much at once.

But I’m laffing my ass off that the left is seething over it.

Posted by: Reality Check at July 20, 2026 09:21 AM (rf/GM)

284 51 years ago today Neil Armstrong ensured he would never pay for a beer for the rest of his life.

https://youtu.be/-f_DPrSEOEo

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2026 09:20 AM (2Ez/1)
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But some convenience store owners had a different opinion.

Posted by: Axeman at July 20, 2026 09:21 AM (Fi81e)

285 The Democratic Socialists of America know nothing, have built nothing and don’t understand the country they live in, yet they imagine they have the moral authority to tear it down.
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So, the Democrats

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 09:21 AM (AfzoM)

286 259 How long is this back-and-forth with Iran going to go on? Is there an end game? ---

Posted by: Ordinary American
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You need a nap. Maybe a long one.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:22 AM (826kS)

287 Good morning, everyone!

Back to work after 2 weeks off -- sucks!

Posted by: Doof at July 20, 2026 09:22 AM (aoylf)

288 > But I’m laffing my ass off that the left is seething over it.
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TBH the left seethes over a lot of stuff. I sometimes think they run on hate more than ideology.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 09:23 AM (jehhT)

289 reasons like this that I'm not automatically drawn to church-going. I know there are churches out there that are actually Bible-based in teaching. But there are some very nefarious things going on inside so many denominations, from my perspective, that I'd rather eschew these places and do my own Bible study and prayer in the confines of my private life. IOW, it seems to be getting harder to find a church that isn't corrupted into leftist worldviews.
Posted by: Lady in Black at

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I totally understand! Because of that I somehow found a really good podcast. It's Josh Howerton Live Free. The part I like best is that even though he is a preacher his podcasts are history based, and really interesting. I think you would enjoy them.

Posted by: . Chillin the most at July 20, 2026 09:23 AM (G0JG0)

290 Back to work after 2 weeks off -- sucks!
Posted by: Doof at July 20, 2026 09:22 AM (aoylf)
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*activates shock collar*

Posted by: Doof's Boss at July 20, 2026 09:23 AM (RIvkX)

291 Quarter Twenty

Well remembered. America, F' Yeah!

We had plenty of problems then, but we were able to multi-task, and achieve greatness. His landing was the apex of decades of sustained effort.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 09:23 AM (u82oZ)

292 Doof, what did you bring us from your vacation?

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:23 AM (77rzZ)

293 How long is this back-and-forth with Iran going to go on? Is there an end game? I heard Trump talk many times over the years about not getting into a war without a plan and commitment to win it. It's fair to ask at this point, what is the plan? If it's to indefinitely respond to Iranian incidents of aggression (supposedly the same Iran with the obliterated military) with our nighttime bombing raids, okay, just let us know.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM (fZiTB)

I actually think what we're doing is about the best we can do right now. (maybe do it even harder) The original plan was quite clearly, bomb for two weeks, then hope a miracle happens, then we call it good and go home. Bad plan. Didn't work for obvious reasons.

So now the plan is degrade, degrade, degrade, and impose assymetric warfare on them. How long can they take it? Now that we've finally started to hit bridges and power plants, their entire internal distribution system will break down. That's not going to be be fun. It's very sad when we lose servicemen; but this is war after all.
Our goal must be to impose a 1000:1 payback for every serviceman we lose.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 09:24 AM (edUvp)

294
Back to work after 2 weeks off -- sucks!
Posted by: Doof at July 20, 2026 09:22 AM (aoylf)

Do you still have to send emails justifying your existence?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:24 AM (2YhKe)

295 Shopping lists should be in alphabetical order.

If I had my way, stores would be arranged in alphabetical order, too.
Posted by: Bulg
___________

I'd like to have some geolocator phone app that would tell me exactly where the obscure item wifey told me to get is located.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 20, 2026 09:25 AM (XvL8K)

296 Doof, what did you bring us from your vacation?
Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 09:23 AM (77rzZ)

My EZ-Pass bill. Donations accepted!

Posted by: Doof at July 20, 2026 09:25 AM (aoylf)

297 Titty-Caca AOC is Running in 2028

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Look out! She mad!

https://tinyurl.com/7zm6vv36

And multicultural!

https://tinyurl.com/3vsew8zc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 20, 2026 09:25 AM (ndZc7)

298 How long is this back-and-forth with Iran going to go on? Is there an end game?

My favorite narrative (since the Truth is impossible to know):

This military action is allowing the Trump administration to use National Security and War Powers to get around mountains of bureaucratic red tape, activists and seditious "judges" to get new mines opened, power plants construction underway, infrastructure fast-tracked, and contract loans and guaranteed purchases to get around the deliberate road-blocks the Demonic Party and their sponsors, the CCP have placed in America's industrial path.

Plus, there is no better way to accelerate weapons development than continuous live field testing with actual opponents who are just as if not more creative in dealing with new designs and tactics.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 09:26 AM (rgGn5)

299 The smartest thing the IRCG could do is surrender. They can then hold power with machine guns. Rebuild. But they don't think that way.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 09:19 AM (u82oZ)

Which is pretty much what Hamas has done in Gaza.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 09:26 AM (edUvp)

300 51 years ago today Neil Armstrong ensured he would never pay for a beer for the rest of his life.

https://youtu.be/-f_DPrSEOEo

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2026 09:20 AM
+++++

I never heard about it.

Posted by: The ghost of Mary Jo Kopechne at July 20, 2026 09:26 AM (2Ez/1)

301 Biff Pocoroba

I uh... asked for the location of that item.

Yes. I asked for directions.

There. My dark secret is out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 09:27 AM (u82oZ)

302 Do you still have to send emails justifying your existence?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:24 AM (2YhKe)

Nah, that ended a long time ago. Maybe I'll start doing it again just to see if anyone reads it!

Posted by: Doof at July 20, 2026 09:27 AM (aoylf)

303 I think the military is focused on the IRGC in and around Hormuz.

It, arguably, should have been the focus from day one, but there's an issue with the nuclear materials that had to be dealt with too.

And, I think there was an underestimate on the tenacity of the IRGC.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2026 09:28 AM (jehhT)

304 >>DOGE, saw an article squealing that DOGE people were still infesting government. These bureaucrats are burrowed in deep and difficult to dig out.

That was always the plan, right?
Initial burst, then bring the DOGE auditing into every department going forward. Love it!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 09:28 AM (X8xt3)

305 The smartest thing the IRCG could do is surrender. They can then hold power with machine guns. Rebuild. But they don't think that way.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 09:19 AM (u82oZ)
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They ain't very smart. Sure, they have a treacherous cunning, but that only gets them so far.

Their only long term plan seems to hold on until President Trump is out of office.

To be fair, that's actually a pretty sound strategy considering our schizophrenic government structure.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 20, 2026 09:28 AM (FZ29D)

306 I'd like to have some geolocator phone app that would tell me exactly where the obscure item wifey told me to get is located.

Walmart and LowesDepot provide "Aisle/Bin" data for most items. Just build a checklist and it will tell you not only if it is in stock but where in the store.

Run that through an AI Assistant and it will plan your optimized route through the store—or you can just use the store's shoppers and pick up and a certain time.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 09:28 AM (rgGn5)

307 Trump currently averages 39.6 in approval.
Dems are at +3 on the generic ballot.

Those are the biggest predictors of the House.

Anyway, you can't say "voting R doesn't matter" when we're going to have a Senate majority next year that does not have:
Tillis, Cornyn, Cassidy, Ernst, and McConnell

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 20, 2026 09:29 AM (3cUTc)

308 We are getting higher quality trolls than usual.
I hope JJ deletes them allowing the thread to
not be tainted or distracted from point to the
casual reader.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:29 AM (826kS)

309 Back to work after 2 weeks off -- sucks!
Posted by: Doof at July 20, 2026 09:22 AM
******

Just what is it you'd say you DO here?

Posted by: The two Bobs at July 20, 2026 09:29 AM (2Ez/1)

310 Posted by: Ordinary American at July 20, 2026 09:13 AM (fZiTB)

Trump says have a plan, he doesn't say tell the enemy what that plan is.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 09:29 AM (AfzoM)

311 And get rid of that shitty picture.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:29 AM (826kS)

312 The Hawaiians getting all belligerent is cool and states' rights being asserted is to be applauded. But the best part is the left wing states thinking they are hard core. Let's find out who really is hard core.

Posted by: Rob Zombie at July 20, 2026 09:29 AM (2ap+5)

313 Look out! She mad!

https://tinyurl.com/7zm6vv36

She's done very little and looks completely exhausted. Trump, meanwhile, get's 4 hours of sleep a night, is constantly working, addressing the media, attending meetings and campaigning, yet still has the energy to play a round of golf.

Yeah, run that dumb c*nt. I dare you. You will become the laughingstock you always should've been.

That would be what's called 'going full monty.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:29 AM (2YhKe)

314 Tom Servo

Spot on. Good observation. Have a fortune cookie on me.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 09:30 AM (u82oZ)

315 >>I know there are churches out there that are actually Bible-based in teaching.

FWIW, this church is legit: https://brave.org/
Past sermons available on the site.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 09:31 AM (X8xt3)

316 Which is pretty much what Hamas has done in Gaza.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2026 09:26 AM (edUvp)
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Renewed violence in Gaza is a question of when not if.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 09:31 AM (RIvkX)

317 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 20, 2026 09:32 AM (2YhKe)

318 And the man running as an R in my district for the House is not as young as the R Senate candidate and not as good looking 😉but a very articulate speaker , and I would have to be a nutcase to stay home and not to vote for him against the terrorist supporting Muslim running against him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 09:33 AM (6UQAR)

319 >>She's done very little and looks completely exhausted. Trump, meanwhile, get's 4 hours of sleep a night, is constantly working, addressing the media, attending meetings and campaigning, yet still has the energy to play a round of golf.

Excellent observation.
What does constantly being "angry"(the default state of the Socialist) get you? She's to very tired of everyone/everything disappointing her, being all greedy and unfair, and stuff. Frown lines, fatigue.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 09:33 AM (X8xt3)

320
Their only long term plan seems to hold on until President Trump is out of office.

To be fair, that's actually a pretty sound strategy considering our schizophrenic government structure.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Just keep doing what he's doing. They are like ants. Blow up their stuff and they will scurry about showing where there other stuff is, watch them, then blow that stuff up.
He's cut off ocean supply, he's cut off rail supply, it's a no fly zone; they are getting hungry and running out of all supplies.
This may be the best siege we've seen in lifetimes.
It requires patience.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2026 09:35 AM (826kS)

321 - Emmie, LVP, all others

If you want to understand eschatology, it's not hard. Time consuming, yes. Hard, no.

Go through the OT prophets. Isaiah thru Malachi. Make notes on all the passages that refer to the day of the LORD.
Then thru the NT, paying attention to passages that speak of Christ's coming and the day of Christ.
And understanding of three Greek words is advised.
Thlipsis- translated tribulation- simply means pressure
Parousia- translated coming- presence or coming and continued presence
Paralambano- receive you unto myself

Posted by: TeeJ at July 20, 2026 09:35 AM (dAv7M)

322
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2026 09:31 AM (X8xt3)

I have been attending the Anglican Church in America. Very Bible based, Christocentric and evangelistic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 09:35 AM (6UQAR)

323 I can't believe there are any Jews or Jewish-owned businesses left in NYC.

When they tell you who they are, believe them, and MummyDummy has been trumpeting who he is for years.

There are plenty of areas of the country who that be overjoyed to get migrants who are civilized and educated.

But not if you keep voting Communist. If you're planning to keep voting Communist, stay where you are.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 20, 2026 09:36 AM (IG3/x)

324 Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 09:26 AM (rgGn5)

Believable, especially the cutting through bureaucracy thing

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 09:36 AM (AfzoM)

325 Nobody said you’re doomed. But why pretend 2nd term mid terms don’t typically lead to losses for the president’s party?

Every 2 term President (with the exception of Clinton) has lost house seats in his 2nd mid term election in the 20th and 21st century. And of those only Reagan lost seats in single digits. Bush, Obama, Nixon(Ford), Johnson, Eisenhower, Wilson and both Roosevelts lost double digit seats their 2nd term. Other than Clinton, you have to go back to 1834 to find the last 2 term president to not lose seats in his 2nd mid term.

It’s not doomerism to point out historical facts. American voters are fickle. They elect a president then 2 years later turn around and vote for the opposite party. It’s a thing.

Posted by: Reality Check at July 20, 2026 09:37 AM (rf/GM)

326 > She's done very little and looks completely exhausted.

Wasted away again in Abuelitaville.
Looking for my long-lost firm pair of tits
Some people say that The Wall is to blame
But I know... it's all Whitey's fault.

Posted by: Alexandria O'CrazyHo-Tittycaca at July 20, 2026 09:40 AM (IG3/x)

327 I have been attending the Anglican Church in America. Very Bible based, Christocentric and evangelistic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I considered one over a decade ago, before dad began his decline and put all such ideas on hold for practical reasons (eventually I wound up at the Global Methodist church I now attend). I actually had cause to visit it recently, and I was quite pleased by what I experienced. I would have been happy to join it if life hadn't set me on a different path.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 09:43 AM (OUMaO)

328 Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 20, 2026 09:43 AM (OUMaO

I Am glad you have found a home in the Global Methodist Church. I respect them There are not in the area where I live.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 09:55 AM (Bw1/o)

329 reasons like this that I'm not automatically drawn to church-going. I know there are churches out there that are actually Bible-based in teaching. But there are some very nefarious things going on inside so many denominations, from my perspective, that I'd rather eschew these places and do my own Bible study and prayer in the confines of my private life. IOW, it seems to be getting harder to find a church that isn't corrupted into leftist worldviews.
Posted by: Lady in Black at

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I totally understand! Because of that I somehow found a really good podcast. It's Josh Howerton Live Free. The part I like best is that even though he is a preacher his podcasts are history based, and really interesting. I think you would enjoy them.

Posted by: . Chillin the most at July 20, 2026 09:23 AM (G0JG0)

If I may make a recommendation:

https://site.godspeak.com/

They defied the California COVID lockdowns and continue the mission of teaching God's word. Pastor Micah Stevens is wise beyond his years. Previous Sunday messages can be found at that site and full worship service is livestreamed every Sunday..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 20, 2026 09:56 AM (xljdX)

330 "On one hand, we are winning the war with Iran. On the other hand, the Vice President seems to be at odds with the administration.
Strange Things Are Happening"
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The knives are out for J.D.
I like Vance. It'd be nice to have a President that knows what it's like to worry about where the next meal is coming from. That enforces a humility that you never see from people raised like Obummer and Carter, much less Kennedy, the Bushes and DJT.
I hope that Vance has learned his lesson: Never, never conduct a nuanced conversation in public. Keep to the talking points. He has to remember that his political enemies are going to crank the contrast all the way up and anything he says that isn't absolutely white will become black.
Go listen to the whole Rogan interview, then come back here and start following the American Thinker link, and its NY Post link, then look at the comments to those stories. You'll see what I mean about the contrast knob.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 20, 2026 10:05 AM (MhE0B)

331 John Hinderaker wonders “whether a central purpose of our government is to fund crime.”

Posted by: SMOD at July 20, 2026 10:31 AM (RHGPo)

332 Jon Ossoff will win Georgia because the Republicans are not even trying. Living in Georgia I have not seen a tv ad, YouTube ad, online posting of any kind nor received anything in the mail from alleged challenger Mike Collins. His website sets out no policy - only gives a way to donate. He seems to not be trying.

Posted by: Juan Paxety at July 20, 2026 10:55 AM (EwniN)

333 'Morning, all. Hi, J.J.! Thank you.

Patty Murray gave the signal for the public health attack against the administration. Why? +/- 41 states chose to expand Medicaid under the ACA.

Instead of operating as usual, millions of able-bodied adults in 40 expansion states are preparing for new work requirements, and states are bracing for "significant drops in enrollment. (It's been estimated up to 5.2 million adults could lose Medicaid coverage under these new regulations.)

Facing massive funding & healthcare shifts, some states, i.e., New Jersey, are passing laws to fine large businesses that don't offer affordable health benefits to their low-wage workers, forcing taxpayers to subsidize them through Medicaid.

In addition, states such as Pennsylvania not only blew threw the C19 supplements but also lots of $ from the one time American Recue Plan to create unneeded, local boards of health & many "public health" jobs.

Reportedly, my county alone applied approximately $4.8 million in ARPA money to cover start-up costs, staff salaries, design, and IT infrastructure before a Board of Health officially debuted.

Cont'd -

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 20, 2026 11:34 AM (NFX2v)

334 All-in-all, it received a total of $110.08 million in ARPA funding, which was "heavily utilized to build local public health infrastructure and support countywide health initiatives." (Locking us in before (C19). Now distributing women's hygiene products, baby diapers, Narcan, gun locks and tests for pregnancy & sexually transmitted disease. Oh, and hiring lots contractors to survey stuff, or shuffling that & treatment for TB etc. off to the poorest hospital in the region.)

Addressing a structural deficit that previously reached at least $27 million, driven by a 30% surge in spending & the expiration of one-time federal pandemic cash, the county Council implemented a 19% property tax increase for the 2026 budget, following a 23% hike the prior year.

The loosey goosey spending pot is done. PROGRAMMATIC costs alone (yoga in prison?) are relying heavily rely on continuous federal and state grants and reimbursements. That's trouble.

Lots of states have pushed past limits of available funding and are in the same pickle. Murray to the rescue! More 🤡 to follow.
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Re: Democratic Socialists. They're really making a MUCH larger publicity splash then they deserve. Cont'd

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 20, 2026 11:34 AM (NFX2v)

335 >New York Times, In Maine Senate Race, Democrats Go From Chaos to Coronation, July 20, 2026

👉He was the only Senate candidate with significant endorsements from labor unions, which in Maine do not represent large numbers of voters but which brought a political organization others could not match on the abbreviated timeline for selecting a nominee to replace Mr. Platner.

That's the "power." NOT numbers but the "NOISE" from union support.

More: GA's Ossoff, co-sponsored PRO Act; backed by the AFGE, IAM & USW, and Actors' Equity Association.

TX Dem Talarico holds a 100% pro-labor voting record & his campaign backed by the Texas AFL-CIO, the AFGE & the Actors' Equity Association.

Mamdani: 32BJ SEIU and the New York State Nurses Association (NYSNA); District Council 37 (DC 37); New York City Central Labor Council (NYC CLC), AFL-CIO.

👉3 1/2% pioneered by political scientist Erica Chenoweth: "To change politics, mobilize 3.5% of the population through active, sustained, and diverse nonviolent civil resistance to create critical mass.

Drag in the old Indivisible coots for the No Kings protest & ya got it.
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🤗

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 20, 2026 11:34 AM (NFX2v)

336 332 Jon Ossoff will win Georgia because the Republicans are not even trying. Living in Georgia I have not seen a tv ad, YouTube ad, online posting of any kind nor received anything in the mail from alleged challenger Mike Collins. His website sets out no policy - only gives a way to donate. He seems to not be trying.
Posted by: Juan Paxety at July 20, 2026 10:55 AM (EwniN)

Reminds me of Pennsylvania when McCain/Palin ran for Pres/VP vs. Obama-Biden. (And Biden was already a fool.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 20, 2026 12:06 PM (NFX2v)

337
re: Benjamin Netanyahu and the NYPD

Diplomatic immunity, bitches.
OK, ...carry on as if you were normal.

Posted by: Speller at July 20, 2026 12:31 PM (pSotA)

Daily Tech News 20 July 2026

Top Story

OpenAI has rushed to reassure users that the brand new GPT 5.6 still has all the same features they know and love. (InfoWorld)

Like accidentally deleting all your files but being really sorry about it afterwards.
Alibaba's AI tool Qwen 3.8 is launching and will soon be open-weight - that is, you can't create your own version but you can download and run it yourself. (Twitter)

One small problem is that is has 2.4 trillion parameters, meaning you'll need a graphics card with 4.8 terabytes of VRAM to run it efficiently, and not many end users have the necessary hardware.
Meanwhile Apple just hired the original team behind Qwen. (WCCFTech)

Who Alibaba had fired in a quiet reminder that grotesque ineptitude is not solely a gift of the western world.

Tech News

Orchid is a delightfully retro and approachable hipster synth. (The Verge)

That bad, huh?
Zilog's Z80 has turned 50 and been discontinued but don't you worry. (Tom's Hardware)

A replacement chip has been reverse-engineered and is now available. It's built on an ancient 130nm node, but that's magic compared to the 4 micron node used in the original Z80.

It runs at 50MHz and the chip itself measures a quarter of a millimeter on a side.
China's CXMT is preparing to launch DDR6 memory and attempt to steal market share away from Samsung and SK Hynix. (WCCFTech)

Great. We'll be here, starving, just as we always have been.
The head of SK Group, owners of Big Three memory maker SK Hynix, says that memory prices are too high and have to come down. (Tom's Hardware)

Not that he cares about customers. But while SK Hynix is pulling in record revenues and profits, every other tech company in the chaebol is in the doldrums due to exorbitant memory costs.
Speaking of which, while the 2026 model of the Razer 18 laptop is not any faster than last year's, it does at least cost you more money while providing half the memory and storage. (Notebook Check)

Wait.

Musical Interlude

Disclaimer: Wut.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:35 AM

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 04:35 AM (6wpGE)

2 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 04:35 AM (P3X50)

3 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2026 04:35 AM (Ia/+0)

4 I try harder.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 04:36 AM (P3X50)

5 Morning all.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 20, 2026 04:36 AM (BLOW1)

6 Disclaimer: Wut.

w00t

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 04:36 AM (6wpGE)

7 Have bills to pay, mouths to feed
Ain't nothing in this world for free

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2026 04:37 AM (Ia/+0)

8 Waiting to see if my phone fixed itself with a overnight restart.
Haven't had mobal data in 2 days

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2026 04:39 AM (Ia/+0)

9 @7 Unless you are from Somalia

Posted by: Case at July 20, 2026 04:39 AM (bqIVz)

10 >>>But while SK Hynix is pulling in record revenues and profits, every other tech company in the chaebol

chaebol
noun
(in South Korea) a large family-owned business conglomerate.

origin
Korean, from chae ‘money’ + bol ‘faction, clique’

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 04:42 AM (6wpGE)

11 Mornin'

Got a renewed laptop coming in today. Nothing fancy. Just a Dell business laptop. I'll put Linux Mint on it as soon as it shows up. I think it has Win11 on it, but I didn't buy it for Windows. I was going to put Linux on it. I'm used to have 3 laptops. The ancient HP laptop finally gave up the ghost. The HD was making 'I'm going to die soon noises' anyway. I think the fan inside died too. First world problems. My Apple MacBook is my everyday machine anyway.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 20, 2026 04:43 AM (sAmhv)

12 Long commute
Have a great day horde

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2026 04:45 AM (Ia/+0)

13 @7 Unless you are from Somalia

Posted by: Case at July 20, 2026 04:39 AM (bqIVz)
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You're a quick learer!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 04:52 AM (P3X50)

14 Cage The Elephant - Ain't No Rest For The Wicked

Well, ok, then!

I see it is the source of these lyrics:

7 Have bills to pay, mouths to feed
Ain't nothing in this world for free
Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2026 04:37 AM (Ia/+0)

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 04:58 AM (6wpGE)

15 Bad shooting in Tuscon:

https://t.co/EqkkCusgsC

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 04:58 AM (P3X50)

16 @13. Biden's Dog

Sometimes the truth can be harsh.

Posted by: Case at July 20, 2026 05:00 AM (bqIVz)

17 15 Bad shooting in Tuscon:

https://t.co/EqkkCusgsC
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 04:58 AM (P3X50)

"We're talking about downtown Tucson on a Saturday night," Frank Magos with the Tucson Police Department said. "It's very vibrant here, a very lively crowd."

Vibrant.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:00 AM (6wpGE)

18 This is like a foreign language to me:

"... I yelled at everybody to run away," Camacho said. She ran for her life, saying, "I grabbed my cousin, and we dipped, and as soon as we bent the corner, shots fired."

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:02 AM (6wpGE)

19 Like accidentally deleting all your files but being really sorry about it afterwards.

I suppose the first order of business is to set it up with the command "You may not delete any file without my permission."

And I love the song selection. I first heard about it in the game Borderlands.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 05:11 AM (lXoJ5)

20
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 20, 2026 05:13 AM (AMvSw)

21 18 This is like a foreign language to me:

"... I yelled at everybody to run away," Camacho said. She ran for her life, saying, "I grabbed my cousin, and we dipped, and as soon as we bent the corner, shots fired."
Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:02 AM (6wpGE)

sounds like '20s gangster-speak.

...1920s.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2026 05:21 AM (Ot/FD)

22 AI gone bad:

Cleveland Clinic
edema causes, symptoms & treatment

https://tinyurl.com/4jhct39b

Care and Treatment
How is this symptom treated?
Other examples of possible treatments include:

• Changing what you eat, especially switching to a low-salt (sodium) diet

...

• Receiving hanging medications (if they’re causing or contributing to your edema)

Reread that! Maybe:

Changing medications (if they're causing or contributing to your edema)

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:25 AM (6wpGE)

23 21 18 This is like a foreign language to me:

"... I yelled at everybody to run away," Camacho said. She ran for her life, saying, "I grabbed my cousin, and we dipped, and as soon as we bent the corner, shots fired."
Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:02 AM (6wpGE)

sounds like '20s gangster-speak.

...1920s.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2026 05:21 AM (Ot/FD)

Skiddoo! And cheese it!

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:26 AM (6wpGE)

24 The head of SK Group, owners of Big Three memory maker SK Hynix, says that memory prices are too high and have to come down.

Talk is cheap, memory isn't.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:30 AM (O7YUW)

25 @18/m: Get Urban Dictionary to help you out.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:32 AM (O7YUW)

26 Speaking of 1920's, this was 50 years ago from this year. Couldn't do the same from 1976.
m.youtube.com/shorts/v3ICj_xwpgk?ra=m

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 20, 2026 05:33 AM (DZ9Lv)

27 Did anyone up jump the boogie to the bang-bang boogie?

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 20, 2026 05:36 AM (DZ9Lv)

28 25 @18/m: Get Urban Dictionary to help you out.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:32 AM (O7YUW)

I kinda can deduce what was meant....

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:36 AM (6wpGE)

29 Memory prices are weird.

It seems like the exact same mechanism that's making things like hospitals and colleges and cars wildly overpriced, and yet with precious little state interference. Millions (billions?) of people effectively buying up memory in the form of distributed/cloud computing demand, with Other People's Money, and not even being aware they're doing it.

Ugh. Just imagine in ten years when AI chat becomes a brand new Fundamental Human Right, and we all have to pay for every jackass on earth to have "Access" to asking ChatGPT if some inflatable music hussy's tits are real or not.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2026 05:37 AM (Ot/FD)

30 >>>and we dipped, and as soon as we bent the corner

= and we scooched down, and as soon as we rounded the corner

?

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:39 AM (6wpGE)

31 @28/m: I wasn't being facetious by the way. There's been multiple times I've had to use Urban Dictionary to figure out a new bit of slang the kids have all started babbling on the bus.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:41 AM (O7YUW)

32 Fundamental Human Right, and we all have to pay for every jackass on earth to have "Access" to asking ChatGPT if some inflatable music hussy's tits are real or not.

Posted by: Warai-otoko

The alternative is no one gets to ask. Do YOU want to be known as the one who permanently derailed boob threads?

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 20, 2026 05:42 AM (DZ9Lv)

33 New Oxford American Dictionary

typo? maybe ...

truckle
verb
submit or behave obsequiously: he will neither bow nor truckled to any kind of control

Might be: He will neither bow nor [has he ever] truckled to any kind of control

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:42 AM (6wpGE)

34 31 @28/m: I wasn't being facetious by the way. There's been multiple times I've had to use Urban Dictionary to figure out a new bit of slang the kids have all started babbling on the bus.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:41 AM (O7YUW)

You betcha!

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:43 AM (6wpGE)

35 @30/m:

dipped = Got out of there
bent the corner = turned the corner

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:43 AM (O7YUW)

36 Get Urban Dictionary to help you out.

It has helped but there are times I sat and stared at my screen wondering what kind of cruel God didn't stop me from looking up certain terms.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 05:44 AM (lXoJ5)

37 35 @30/m:

dipped = Got out of there
bent the corner = turned the corner
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:43 AM (O7YUW)

dipped = Got out of there
wild

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:45 AM (6wpGE)

38 @36/NR Pax: *guffaw* True.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:46 AM (O7YUW)

39 36 Get Urban Dictionary to help you out.

It has helped but there are times I sat and stared at my screen wondering what kind of cruel God didn't stop me from looking up certain terms.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 05:44 AM (lXoJ5)

Agreed. I try to still my hand if the cost-effectiveness is not immediately apparent.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:48 AM (6wpGE)

40 Oxford American Dictionary has that!

dip
verb
[no object] informal - leave: you wanna dip but don't wanna be rude so you just keep nodding | they said their hellos and dipped out early.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:50 AM (6wpGE)

41 *slams back the remaining three-quarters of the big-mug of coffee*

The neurons have crested the top of the roller coaster ramp, and now the fast-descent and screaming begins.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:50 AM (O7YUW)

42 41 *slams back the remaining three-quarters of the big-mug of coffee*

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:50 AM (O7YUW)

* need *

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:51 AM (6wpGE)

43 My mobile data is back

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2026 05:51 AM (h3syt)

44 Welcome back, Skip!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:52 AM (O7YUW)

45 Went to my local Bojangles on Sunday after my Red Cross trip. Ended up with a burn on the roof of my mouth from the coffee and I just got finished telling them about it.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 05:56 AM (lXoJ5)

46 Well, we are enjoying our new kitten, Millard, who has grown even since we got him last week, and he has learned to fetch the little plastic spring like toys and bring them back to us.

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 05:58 AM (Bw1/o)

47 @11

>> My Apple MacBook is my everyday machine anyway.

The Base OS on a Mac is Unix/Linux, so unless you have a very specific need for a Linux like operating system you could have saved money on a laptop, because you already have one.

Also of note, a Mac running parallels offers the best Windows experience if one is into that sort of thing.

In addition, you could use parallels to install any number of Linux VMs.

I have a number of different Linux vms on my MacBook in addition to my Windows 11 vm.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2026 05:59 AM (XV/Pl)

48 Firefighters spend four hours carrying a 100 lb dog down a mountain to safety after he was too exhausted to continue the trek with owner :

https://tinyurl.com/mcjwjj8x

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:04 AM (D+BhG)

49 Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 05:56 AM (lXoJ5

Sorry about your burn. What was your Red Cross trip?

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:05 AM (D+BhG)

50 Evening and morning, all! 'Ti s Monday, a truth universally to be acknowledged; but recall:

"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:08 AM (wzUl9)

51 Ran into a new term in a video about a gent talking about purchasing an old Mercedes from the 90's and restoring it (It was also a video that was teaching people all the bad effects about enshittification).

That term? "Demand Destruction".

Video on YT queued up to 43m56s:
https://tinyurl.com/48d8y4as

And for those who don't want to click through:

"Demand Destruction: When people consistently get less than they paid for, they eventually stop paying."

Yup. That.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 06:09 AM (O7YUW)

52 @46/FenelonSpouse: Kitten = Joy, destruction, frustration, love, insanity, stepping in cat-yack at 3 in the morning, etc...etc...

In other words: Worth it. :-)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 06:11 AM (O7YUW)

53 "Singing contractors" vocal group singing Bill and Gloria Gaither's gospel song, "Because he lives"
Faithpot site:

https://tinyurl.com/bd68vb6w

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:11 AM (D+BhG)

54 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Cuz.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 20, 2026 06:12 AM (amcLV)

55 Well, we are enjoying our new kitten, Millard, who has grown even since we got him last week, and he has learned to fetch the little plastic spring like toys and bring them back to us.

***
Fen, I have no doubt that he is enjoying you as well. "Fetch" is not too unusual; I've known several cats who did it, including the late Tatiana the Wonder Siberian -- it was our regular game with a small rubber ball -- red tabby Arizona occasionally, and even Chekov D. Siberian now and then. Though I have no doubt the kitten thinks of it as "I'll bring this over so the human can continue MY game."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:12 AM (wzUl9)

56 Oh, and little Dagny loves to race after a toy I throw, touch it, and then race back away from it without worrying it or carrying it in her mouth to me. I keep telling her, "You've got *part* of the concept, now how about the rest?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:14 AM (wzUl9)

57 Aaaand . . . we have a disorganized, for now, tropical depression in the Gulf of America, heading roughly in our direction. Gah. Means I'd better go work out this morning, as it may be raining strongly tomorrow and the day after, or even farther out.

Most the rain may stay off the coast, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:16 AM (wzUl9)

58 Good morning morons

Is Tehran burning?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 06:17 AM (RIvkX)

59 Deuteronomy 3:23- and "One more prayer". International Fellowship of Christians and Jews;

https://tinyurl.com/25mzn3vu

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:18 AM (D+BhG)

60 Sorry about your burn. What was your Red Cross trip?
Posted by: FenelonSpouse

Thanks. It's getting better and while I'm not the kind to fuss over things like this, I did email them a heads up that they need to adjust the temperature a bit.

I donate platelets every couple of weeks. My blood type is one of the ones that is very desirable for that. So I go in early Sunday morning, get hooked up to a machine and watch Netflix for about 1.5-2 hours. After that, I get some cookies and make my way home.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 06:18 AM (lXoJ5)

61 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:12 AM (wzUl9

Well, hopefully we're keeping him sufficiently entertained! 😉

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:19 AM (D+BhG)

62 Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 06:18 AM (lXoJ5

That is very thoughtful of you,

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:20 AM (D+BhG)

63
Easy access to guns and Arizona’s weak gun safety laws have continued to put all of us at risk. From requiring universal background checks to extreme risk laws to funding violence prevention there is more lawmakers can and should do.

Gun violence statistics are granular enough to provide certain red flags. Nobody wants to learn what those red flags are.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 06:22 AM (O0L8i)

64 44 Welcome back, Skip!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 05:52 AM (O7YUW)

That doesn't sound very grumpy!

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 06:23 AM (6wpGE)

65 The trip to the Museum of Art was not bad. Most of the interesting stuff is on the first two of the three floors; the Japanese and other non-Western Hemisphere art is on the top floor. There were lots of Dutch paintings, including one of a bordello that really pops out because of the black-and-white checkered floor highlighted by the light from above in the painting. There was a Jackson Pollock that I believe we've had on the Art Thread, and some abstract work by a painter/photographer, Robert Gowdy, who apparently was well known here in the '60s-'80s, before his death from AIDS in '86.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:25 AM (wzUl9)

66 Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 06:18 AM (lXoJ5)
====

You're likely negative for cyclomegavirus, which is rare among U.S. adults, and makes your platelets safe to be received by patients with immune deficiency

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 06:25 AM (RIvkX)

67 There's lighter versions of Qwen available. I've downloaded and used it before. I bought a new but older tech laptop, and Acer which I really like a lot. It has an NVidia discrete GPU, not very powerful, but I can also run NVidia's Nemotron on that. It's a little slow, but it works. I can't read as fast as Grok, GPT, or Claude can type anyway. Slow is fine.

I used the local AI a few weeks ago to troubleshoot a wifi problem preventing me from getting on the internet. That was supe cool.

We go back for an ultrasound soon. I'm hoping everything will be normal, but there's a very good chance it won't be. Just waiting and praying. All I can do for now.

Posted by: meh at July 20, 2026 06:26 AM (kK7U2)

68 We have 84 or 85 horrifying degrees. I'd better not look at the heat index or I'll never go out there. About time to change, stretch, and get rolling.

Later, I'll need to hit the grocery and pick up my revised driving (distance view) glasses. If the bifocal part is still bothersome, I'll take both pairs back and say, "Just make them all the distance lens, I don't need bifocals."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:28 AM (wzUl9)

69 Another excellent, inspiring sermon by a fill in preacher at the Anglican Church in America. This was on Romans 8:9-17. It was a smaller crowd than last week . I guess they're all on vacation. One amusing English fellow who does the technical things over there said to us, "So we didn't scare you off last week?"

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:28 AM (zqeQL)

70 Fen, take some pics of Millard the kitten and send them to K.T. for the Pet Thread. I need to do the same for Stirling and Dagny, who have both filled out tremendously from four years ago.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:29 AM (wzUl9)

71 We are heading off for our annual sojourn in Sonoma today. Tomorrow morning at this time I will be sitting under the stars, which still fascinate me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 06:31 AM (RIvkX)

72 ****@48: Firefighters spend four hours carrying a 100 lb dog down a mountain to safety after he was too exhausted to continue the trek with owner :
https://tinyurl.com/mcjwjj8x
Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:04 AM (D+BhG)****
That's a nice story to start the week with. Thank you for posting it.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 20, 2026 06:31 AM (UjPeb)

73
Waiting for the sun to come up so I can get the car emptied from last week's shows and wash a couple of crates so we can set them up in the house, move Puff, Ruth and Dutchess up and shut down the AC and fans in the kennel.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 06:33 AM (O0L8i)

74 58 Good morning morons

Is Tehran burning?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 06:17 AM (RIvkX)

Not burning, so much, as painful when they pee.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 06:34 AM (6wpGE)

75 That is very thoughtful of you,
Posted by: FenelonSpouse

Thanks. Honestly, the main reason I do it is because they have a short life span and there is a great need for them. OK, and the free snacks helps.

You're likely negative for cyclomegavirus, which is rare among U.S. adults, and makes your platelets safe to be received by patients with immune deficiency
Posted by: San Franpsycho

That's a good bit of information. Thanks. But apparently there are not a lot of people who donate platelets so my local Red Cross really likes us.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 06:34 AM (lXoJ5)

76 Sure, we're nice now but eventually we will eat you.

Posted by: Your Cats at July 20, 2026 06:35 AM (RIvkX)

77
The man had been hiking the Golden Eagle Trail in Pennsylvania's Tiadaghton State Forest with his senior dog, Sable, when she suddenly became exhausted and could no longer continue. Nearly two miles from the trailhead, the 100-pound dog was unable to make the journey back on her own.

Nitwit. Did he think his dog was some kind of machine? Especially a senior dog. This is just plain senseless.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 06:36 AM (O0L8i)

78 Not burning, so much, as painful when they pee.
Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 06:34 AM (6wpGE)
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I'll take what I can get.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 06:36 AM (RIvkX)

79 A replacement chip has been reverse-engineered and is now available. It's built on an ancient 130nm node, but that's magic compared to the 4 micron node used in the original Z80.

Eh, a little PCB with power supply conversion and an FPGA will probably work. The opcode fore the Z80 is pretty basic.

Just did a search...somebody already did it.
https://tinyurl.com/2jhnktvs

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 20, 2026 06:37 AM (l3cgK)

80 OK, and the free snacks helps.

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TBH I donated whole blood every 8 weeks when I was in college mostly because they gave me as many Oreos as I wanted. Also, I had good veins so they saved me for new phlebotomists

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 06:39 AM (RIvkX)

81 Nitwit. Did he think his dog was some kind of machine? Especially a senior dog. This is just plain senseless.

Sometimes, you aren't aware of just how old your dog is until they show you. But he really should have known already.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 06:40 AM (lXoJ5)

82 TBH I donated whole blood every 8 weeks when I was in college mostly because they gave me as many Oreos as I wanted.

The Nutter Butters are another good reason.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 06:40 AM (lXoJ5)

83 I'd estimate about a third of the dogs I see are being carried or in strollers.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 06:42 AM (RIvkX)

84 mornin yall. To make soccer suck even more they added Madonna and Justin Beaver.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 06:44 AM (MWfyi)

85 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:29 AM (wzUl9

Thanks. will have to see if I can get FenSpouse to do that. I'm not very technically proficient as I'm sure is obvious from my comments.

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:48 AM (zqeQL)

86 Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 20, 2026 06:31 AM (UjPeb)

You are most welcome . I hope you and all here have a blessed day!

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:49 AM (zqeQL)

87 We went the farm yesterday and Mrs fd found an arrowhead. Her first. I've found a few over the years and it's quite a thrill.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 06:50 AM (MWfyi)

88
I'd estimate about a third of the dogs I see are being carried or in strollers.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 06:42 AM (RIvkX)

Many years ago we were at a show. The rings and the grooming area were in separate buildings. Possum was Best of Breed that day and before the Hound Group a Texas thunderstorm began.

Her Majesty had just gotten Possum groomed and asked me, "Would you mind carrying her over?" Possum was a big girl and not happy to be carried. Her Majesty thoughtfully held an umbrella... over Possum.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 06:50 AM (O0L8i)

89 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 06:25 AM (wzUl9

Sounds great. I am glad that you enjoyed your visit there.

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:50 AM (zqeQL)

90 This is a picture of what FenSpouse and I saw yesterday growing from the crack in the sidewalk on our walk to church- a moss rose:

https://tinyurl.com/sf4rjncy

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:54 AM (zqeQL)

91

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 20, 2026 06:54 AM (sUMTS)

92 Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 06:50 AM (MWfyi)

That does sound like a thrill.

Posted by: FenelonSpouse at July 20, 2026 06:55 AM (zqeQL)

93 Watching clips of Jennifer Seibel Newsom crashing out on MSNOW.

She desperately wants to be Jill Biden.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 07:00 AM (RIvkX)

94 "That does sound like a thrill.
Posted by: FenelonSpouse"

The high point of the day.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 07:01 AM (MWfyi)

95 Sparkle Beach Ken and Crazy Eyes Barbie

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 07:03 AM (RIvkX)

96 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 06:36 AM (O0L8i)

I thought it was kind of witless myself, but I posted it more about the kindness of the people who carried him down.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 07:06 AM (D+BhG)

97 I'd estimate about a third of the dogs I see are being carried or in strollers

My wife and I were at a Greyhound event in Gettysburg with our boy Duncan. This lady went by us with her Italian Greyhound in a baby sling. Duncan stopped, looked at them and then looked at my wife as if to wonder why he wasn't being carried like that.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:07 AM (lXoJ5)

98 Posted by: Your Cats at July 20, 2026 06:35 AM (RIvkX)

So I guess you're a dog person, eh?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 07:07 AM (D+BhG)

99 Batter up, m!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 07:09 AM (O7YUW)

100 You have to be a really shitty person to steal AC units from a church to sell for scrap at this time of year. The scrapyards should be held to account too for accepting them.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 07:10 AM (MWfyi)

101 One hundred.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 07:11 AM (MWfyi)

102 How feckless is the Georgia GOP?

"Georgia voters will continue casting ballots under the state's current vote-counting system for at least two more years after lawmakers approved a plan to delay major election equipment changes until 2028.
Lawmakers had approved that deadline two years ago but never settled on a replacement system."

So Dominion again.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 07:16 AM (MWfyi)

103 Good morning! Schnikeez! I slept 'til 0600. Gonna be hot this week in Cowtown, with temps checking in at 100+.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 20, 2026 07:18 AM (3Ope8)

104 @100/fd: Agreed. Any HVAC company around here dumps the old cores/evaporators/compressors/copper lines into a dedicated dumpster that the metal scrap-yard comes and picks up.

Anyone showing up at a scrap yard with one or two AC units in a personal truck (that isn't HVAC branded) should have to produce their HVAC certification (each tech is personally certified), and their D.L. + CVOR. If they can't or won't, call the police.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 07:18 AM (O7YUW)

105 You have to be a really shitty person to steal AC units from a church to sell for scrap at this time of year.

Other times of year, no problem.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 07:20 AM (a4flb)

106 We're probably gonna break 100 here... but it's okay- it's a wet heat.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2026 07:21 AM (q6tQZ)

107 "Other times of year, no problem.
Posted by: Community Notes"

Well, no, but the Summer offence should warrant a more particularly severe level of Hell.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 07:22 AM (MWfyi)

108 @102/fd: "So Dominion again."

I found this yesterday at OldNFO's blog and watched the whole thing. Just...dang. Dominion is only a piece of the election fraud worldwide machine. Venezuela, China-to-Taiwan, Canada to take the form as "Dominion", and then into the USA.

https://youtu.be/XJ1C8efXUE8

And the interviewer is smart enough to just let this guy talk, he doesn't interrupt him, which these days is rare. That alone got my attention.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2026 07:22 AM (O7YUW)

109 If the government would just give junkies more money they wouldn't have to steal from churches.

Posted by: fd at July 20, 2026 07:25 AM (MWfyi)

110 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:27 AM (u82oZ)

111 Anyone showing up at a scrap yard with one or two AC units in a personal truck should have to produce their HVAC certification and their D.L. + CVOR.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant

But minorities can't get IDs! How can you demand such a terrible thing?!

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:28 AM (lXoJ5)

112 109 If the government would just give junkies more money they wouldn't have to steal from churches.
Posted by: fd

I hope God is understanding that I can support an isolated facility where the junkies are given everything they want to shoot up and let nature work its magic.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:28 AM (lXoJ5)

113 I hope God is understanding that I can support an isolated facility where the junkies are given everything they want to shoot up and let nature work its magic.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:28 AM (lXoJ5)
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I would put them all in the buffalo paddock in Golden Gate Park.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 07:30 AM (RIvkX)

114 Hillary Clinton

Why?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:32 AM (u82oZ)

115 San Franpsycho

Has there ever been drug-addicted homeless bums that got cleaned up and made a difference?

Seems like our help is pass through graft for NGOs.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:34 AM (u82oZ)

116 I would put them all in the buffalo paddock in Golden Gate Park.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I like the way you think.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:35 AM (lXoJ5)

117 Has there ever been drug-addicted homeless bums that got cleaned up and made a difference?

Seems like our help is pass through graft for NGOs.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:34 AM (u82oZ)
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TBF yes there are definitely success stories, too few and far in between

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 07:35 AM (RIvkX)

118 I would put them all in the buffalo paddock in Golden Gate Park.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

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Or the one that straddles I-70 west of Denver.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 07:36 AM (wzUl9)

119 when is this tech thread gonna dip and bend the corner to JJ?

Posted by: Boswell at July 20, 2026 07:38 AM (j10i6)

120 Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Have we no levees to build in the lower Mississippi River area?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:39 AM (u82oZ)

121 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 20, 2026 07:39 AM (2Ez/1)

122 The average number of days per year in the U.S. reaching 95°F was ~18% lower during the 60-year period 1961 to 2020 compared to 1901 to 1960.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 07:40 AM (/+uur)

123 Did my workout, an amazing (for this time of year) 7.5 minutes' trotting within a total of 15. Exhausting, but worth it.

As for the guy with his senior dog: True, sometimes you don't know how old your pet is if you adopt him later in his life. But at the first vet visit they should have given you some idea. Little Oreo the black-and-white part-Persian, I was told, was five, but when I took her in for a checkup the vet said she was older than that, maybe seven or eight. Since she lived another six years with me, that gave her a pretty good run on Earth. But I would never have expected her to play and frisk like a kitten.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 07:40 AM (wzUl9)

124 ps
thats about 1 out of 6

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 20, 2026 07:40 AM (/+uur)

125 Have we no levees to build in the lower Mississippi River area?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026

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Where they exist, they are tall and pretty solid. But there are lots of places "outside the levee system."

Fortunately I do not live in any of them.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 20, 2026 07:42 AM (wzUl9)

126 TBF yes there are definitely success stories, too few and far in between
Posted by: San Franpsycho

An old friend of mine was born and raised in San Francisco. His opinions on how the homeless and the junkies should be handled might be considered extreme for this site.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:44 AM (lXoJ5)

127 "Georgia voters will continue casting ballots under the state's current vote-counting system for at least two more years after lawmakers approved a plan to delay major election equipment changes until 2028.
Lawmakers had approved that deadline two years ago but never settled on a replacement system."

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Paper ballots could be ready in time, but we can't have that anymore apparently.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 20, 2026 07:45 AM (qBdHI)

128 And today's " God incident" so far. I spotted a lady at the corner of town with a shirt which said, "With God all things are possible."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2026 07:45 AM (TIRHP)

129 r hennigantx

No days above 100℉ this year. A cold summer for Kansas.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:46 AM (u82oZ)

130 TBF yes there are definitely success stories, too few and far in between
Posted by: San Franpsycho

An old friend of mine was born and raised in San Francisco. His opinions on how the homeless and the junkies should be handled might be considered extreme for this site.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:44 AM (lXoJ5)

Scoops? That's covered here.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 20, 2026 07:46 AM (dK+Kv)

131 http://ai.mee.nu/ has some issues....

502 Bad Gateway response.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 20, 2026 07:47 AM (JTvl/)

132 JJ is up.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 20, 2026 07:48 AM (lXoJ5)

133 Scoops? That's covered here.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 20, 2026 07:46 AM (dK+Kv)
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That's how we would get them into the park.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

134 NR Pax

The programs that help the homeless strike me as needing slaves (homeless) to enrich the helpers. No homeless, not Leftist with government money.

There are better paths.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2026 07:49 AM (u82oZ)

135
Seriously annoyed. I think that after some reasonable length of time (5-10 years), journals should have to make articles open access. There's no reason to pay $50-60 for a PDF of something that was published 30 or 40 years ago.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 20, 2026 07:49 AM (O0L8i)

136 And today's " God incident" so far. I spotted a lady at the corner of town with a shirt which said, "With God all things are possible."

On the other side it should read: "... Except for those things for which He hasn't ordained"

Posted by: Community Notes at July 20, 2026 07:50 AM (PVBkQ)

137 Vibrant.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 05:00 AM (6wpGE)

And diverse. Strong even.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 20, 2026 07:50 AM (dK+Kv)

138 131 http://ai.mee.nu/ has some issues....

502 Bad Gateway response.
Posted by: Richard Cranium

Yeah, a secondary server was rebooted. Fixed now.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 20, 2026 08:44 AM (BLOW1)

Sunday Overnight Open Thread - July 19, 2026 [Doof]

Old Mackinac Point Lighthouse - From Rusted Spoke Brewing

Howdy Hordelings! Welcome to the Sunday ONT. Glad you could stop by! Open thread, as always. Fashion and music, as always. Anything exciting in your world tonight?

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Congratulations to Spain on their World Cup win.

4 Takeaways After Spain Beats Argentina In Extra Time To Win 2026 FIFA World Cup

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POTUS arriving at the game

HOLY SMOKES: Watch from INSIDE Marine One as President Trump flies over the FIFA World Cup final

THIS IS SO EPIC 🔥 pic.twitter.com/0RscadvJ8q
— MAGA Voice (@MAGAVoice) July 19, 2026

I'm glad I watched this afternoon. Well - I'm glad I watched the halftime show. Really just this particular part.

'Dai Dai' is performed by @shakira and @burnaboy during the 2026 FIFA World Cup Final Halftime Show pic.twitter.com/GwMQgaMMI1
— FOX Sports (@FOXSports) July 19, 2026

Justin Bieber - good on ya!

🚨 POWERFUL: Justin Bieber using his platform to lift up the name of Jesus during the 2026 World Cup Final halftime. pic.twitter.com/80IOypIrAB
— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) July 19, 2026

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Bugs are asshoe - this seems kewl!

Startup Develops Micro-Drones Capable of Shooting Down Insects in Mid-Air

Engineers at Tornyol, an American startup backed by Y Combinator, have been working on an AI-powered micro-drone that could bring down the cost of mosquito eradication by 100 times. Swarms of these tiny drones could potentially hunt and shoot down mosquitoes in urban spaces, instead of using chemicals or other more expensive and hazardous population control solutions.
On July 14, Alex Toussaint, one of the founders of Tornyol, posted a video showing the company’s “first air-to-air kill”. In it, a small drone can be seen pursuing and ultimately shooting down a moth in a control test area. Obviously, a moth is not a mosquito, and the test area was very small, but this is apparently a very big step toward developing a drone capable of identifying and annihilating insects in mid-air.

Videos at the link

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3D printing ideas

54 Fun And Useful Things People Printed With Their 3D Printers

Some cool stuff along with some whelm. at least it's a single webpage and not a click-through thing.

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'Ette Couture (Courtesy of Piper)

It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.

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Is It Real Couture or Piper? The Ultimate Fashion Eye Test!

I’ve mixed real runway couture with AI generated looks based solely on my prompts. Your mission: guess before the big reveal. Ready? Let’s play!

Round 1: The Aliens Bring It
Real or Piper?

Round 2: The Open Kimono
Real or Piper?

Round 3: The Golden Bird Cage
Real or Piper?

Round 4: The Sleek Black Strapless Gown
Real or Piper?

Round 5: The Epic Black Princess Ball Gown
Real or Piper?

Round 1: The Aliens Bring It

✅ REAL COUTURE

Rahul Mishra went full space-opera for this one. Inspired by Carl Sagan’s Pale Blue Dot and some ancient Hindu scripture, models basically beamed onto the runway like they’d just hitchhiked from another galaxy. Sparkling structural capes? Sagan’s voice narrating? Peak couture theater.

Round 2: The Open Kimono

🤖 PIPER
This dramatic, flowing piece channels our friend Saijo if he suddenly decided to crash the couture calendar. Zero atelier hours, maximum drama.

Round 3: The Golden Bird Cage

✅ REAL COUTURE
Maria Grazia Chiuri at Dior pulled from legendary silhouettes like the Trapèze (thanks, Saint Laurent 1958 ) and the Cigale (1952), then updated them with modern fabrics. Basically, she took vintage icons, gave them a glow-up, and turned them into golden bird-cage-level fabulous.

Round 4: The Sleek Black Strapless Gown

✅ REAL COUTURE
Straight from a 2025 Paris Haute Couture Week runway—this is elegant Armani Privé doing what it does best: making simple black look like a million bucks (and probably costing close to that).

Round 5: The Epic Black Princess Ball Gown

🤖 PIPER
This dramatic black stunner with the bold corset top comes from my Dystopian Sparkle collection.

How did you score?
• 5/5 correct? You’re a certified fashion detective. Get yourself a drink on Doof.
• 3–4? Solid eye, but Grok and I are getting scary good at this.
• Under 3? Welcome to 2026, where the line between real and generated is deliciously blurry.
Tell us your score and your favorite look, or confess to cheating.

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Thanks, Piper!

Don't forget to check out Piper's X page. Seriously - I suggest this every week. If you followed Piper on X, you'd have already seen this awesomeness!

I am literally never this lucky. Ever. I would be laughing so hard if this happened to me. https://t.co/rx5Hw2583g
— Piper (@piper_moves) July 15, 2026

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Bonus fashion segment - from me, not Piper!

Melania at the World Cup Final

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Today in 1977, your mother dressed you like a little tablecloth from hell. pic.twitter.com/jnhC2KO7SA
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DJ Doof - Nineteen Edition

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Posted by: Rex B at July 19, 2026 10:01 PM (R0XxO)

2 If tin whistles are made of tin, what are fog horns made of ???

Posted by: Adriane the Critically Critical Critic . . . at July 19, 2026 10:01 PM (3ZUWJ)

3 Hey, hey, hey ONT it be.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 10:01 PM (GebTj)

4 That's 1 small 1 for a Rex, one giant one for moron-kind.

Posted by: Rex B at July 19, 2026 10:02 PM (R0XxO)

5 Hang on! Hang on! I'm almost through The Amazing Colossal Man!

His body count just advanced to 1.

Posted by: mindful webworker - cinema at its finest at July 19, 2026 10:02 PM (p+5Bi)

6 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 10:02 PM (ourEi)

7 Evening all.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 10:03 PM (sGgMH)

8 I love to have some cumin, its my favorite spice!

Posted by: Barack Obama at July 19, 2026 10:04 PM (sKqQm)

9 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 19, 2026 10:04 PM (+9wcF)

10 Engineers at Tornyol, an American startup backed by Y Combinator, have been working on an AI-powered micro-drone that could bring down the cost of mosquito eradication by 100 times. Swarms of these tiny drones could potentially hunt and shoot down mosquitoes in urban spaces, instead of using chemicals or other more expensive and hazardous population control solutions.

Robert Sheckley wrote a story along those lines, "Watchbird." It didn't end well.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 19, 2026 10:04 PM (CHHv1)

11 5 Hang on! Hang on! I'm almost through The Amazing Colossal Man!

His body count just advanced to 1.

Posted by: mindful webworker - cinema at its finest
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Couldn't do it. Been watching Louis Awerbuck - Combat Shotgun, interesting and he keeps a good pace.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 10:04 PM (GebTj)

12 Well you watched Shakira do Dai Dai at the WC!

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 10:05 PM (hftzA)

13 As always, I just turn off the sound and watch Shakira. Her hips are magical.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 19, 2026 10:06 PM (tgl2u)

14 Watched the last half hour of the soccer game.

Pretty entertaining.

Yay Doof and the ONT he bringeth!

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at July 19, 2026 10:06 PM (Or9o8)

15 Shakira is not an ugly woman.

You know it's a pathetic sport and game when the halftime show is more interesting than the actual contest.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 10:06 PM (l4RKn)

16 Would someone please tell me why Justin Bieber is famous. I'm quite sure talent doesn't enter into it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 10:07 PM (Riz8t)

17 Plaid, the politicitian's favorite color.

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:07 PM (1tpiU)

18 Good evening Horde. Thanks Disco!

Posted by: TRex - extra time added dino at July 19, 2026 10:08 PM (XfIK1)

19 Melania at the World Cup Final: Wow. Haven't seen one of those "women holding their own b00bs" pix in quite a while. But, they're supposed to naked, or at least topless.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Oh, wait, I get it now... at July 19, 2026 10:08 PM (p+5Bi)

20
I do not have to wake up at 4:30 tomorrow morning.

I probably will anyway.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 10:08 PM (O0L8i)

21 Shakira is 49, btw.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 10:09 PM (hftzA)

22 Steely Dan, Rolling Stones, Hardcastle…

Obviously, the common theme is density.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Rock on! at July 19, 2026 10:10 PM (p+5Bi)

23
Hey, I was 49, mumblty years ago.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 10:11 PM (O0L8i)

24 I do not have to wake up at 4:30 tomorrow morning.

I probably will anyway.

Well that means you can throw your alarm clock against the wall, roll over, and say "I warned you".

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 10:11 PM (Riz8t)

25
#2 is hot
#3 is Piper
#4 is AI
#5 is Piper

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 10:11 PM (GebTj)

26 I guessed Open Kimono was Piper, simply because I thought the Fox Head purse would be severely frowned upon at any real life fashion event. Nicely done, though.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 10:11 PM (dP8GR)

27 I would absolutely buy that knife holder.

Eh tu?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 10:12 PM (viF8m)

28 I would be greatly amused if the kids in the plaid leisure suits came out and walked down the catwalk at a fashion show. The audience wouldn't know whether to clap or boo.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 10:12 PM (Riz8t)

29 26 I guessed Open Kimono was Piper, simply because I thought the Fox Head purse would be severely frowned upon at any real life fashion event. Nicely done, though.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 10

That is a Shiba. lol. It was the dead giveaway.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 10:13 PM (hftzA)

30 Only in America does one find an ONT of this remarkable caliber.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 10:13 PM (u/oMr)

31 #2 is AI?? You mean vertical ribcages aren't real??

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 10:14 PM (QMAsf)

32 Round 5: The Epic Black Princess Ball Gown

Piper and her AI might be able to make a career out of this. That one's pretty good.

I started with 4/5 (RPRRR), and fell to 3/5 (RPRPR) when I realized that wasn't enough Piper choices. I figured #4 was the trick question because it was too normal. Wrong!

Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2026 10:14 PM (VHUov)

33 Thanks for the dandy Sunday Night ONT, Doof!

Great photo of the little lighthouse up top.

Thanks for the fashion quiz, Piper! I did pretty well considering that I don't really follow fashion all that much. I was pleased to see that something classy made it into real fashion!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 19, 2026 10:14 PM (D/6p1)

34 Good evening Horde. Thanks Disco!
Posted by: TRex - extra time added dino at July 19, 2026 10:08 PM (XfIK1)

You'd kinda suck at throw-ins, I'd imagine!

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 10:15 PM (QMAsf)

35 27 I would absolutely buy that knife holder.

Eh tu?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 10:12 PM (viF8m)

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I can't tell whether it looks more like Octavian or Nero, but it doesn't look like Julius Caesar.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 10:15 PM (u/oMr)

36 Shakira is 49, btw.

I've noticed people can keep their looks longer now. Though you have to keep drugs, alcohol and sun to moderate level...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:15 PM (sKqQm)

37 Who wants Caesar Salad?

Posted by: Edvard Skissorhands at July 19, 2026 10:15 PM (R0XxO)

38 30 Only in America does one find an ONT of this remarkable caliber.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 10:13 PM (u/oMr)

I fear the day is coming when ace realizes he does not have to pay huge salaries to the cobs and outsources the ONTs to Myanmar.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 19, 2026 10:16 PM (tgl2u)

39 Only in America does one find an ONT of this remarkable caliber.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 10:13 PM (u/oMr)

This guy gets it!

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

40 Greetings Horde. Thank you again Mr. Doof!

I'm lazy so I'll just repost from FWP thread....

49......Well, I'm back from Yosemite! The park was beautiful as always. I encourage anyone with the ability and opportunity to experience it to do so at least once. If you're able to get off the beaten path, even better.

We had a great time with extended family group ranging in age from mopey 19 yo to wheelchair bound 95 yo.

As far as FWPs there were a number of disappointments. I'll probably detail them in a longer screed but the parks lodging/food concessionaire is doing a very poor job. There was just systemic poor execution of basic responsibilities. Like no ice for days in the park stores. Telling occupants of the Curry Village cabins that quiet time starts at 10 PM while a raucous party was occurring in the nearby employee housing. There is much more but I'll save it for now.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 19, 2026 02:29 PM (QGaXH)

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 19, 2026 10:16 PM (QGaXH)

41 I wonder if license plates are transferable? She might maybe able to make a small but useful profit, even if she doesn’t care for it personally. What the heck

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:16 PM (qzFjd)

42 Tin Whistles are from Ireland. Penny Whistles are from England. Same instrument.

Posted by: The Whistler at July 19, 2026 10:16 PM (JM9I6)

43 The golden bird cage.

What is wrong with these people?

Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 10:16 PM (bqIVz)

44
The Houston summer series of dog shows is over. The Big Dummy was Best of Breed six times, got a Group 3 and looked very good each time.

Got to the 4:00 PM Mass at my local parish, so that's good. Five days of work as a steward left me footsore and exhausted.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 10:17 PM (O0L8i)

45 If you're going to put an AI chick in a kimono, would it kill you to add a prompt for an impressive set knockers?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 10:17 PM (u/oMr)

46 31 #2 is AI?? You mean vertical ribcages aren't real??
Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 10:14 PM (QMAsf

It’s the lighting. 🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 10:18 PM (hftzA)

47 >>I can't tell whether it looks more like Octavian or Nero, but it doesn't look like Julius Caesar.

The guys got a dozen pointy things stuck in him and you wonder why he might not look his best?

Everyone is a critic.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 10:19 PM (viF8m)

48 27 I would absolutely buy that knife holder.

Eh tu?
Posted by: JackStraw

I sometimes fantasize about getting a lifelike replica of the Pompei Dog to put in our front yard. If nothing else, it might please the mailman.

Posted by: Rex B at July 19, 2026 10:19 PM (R0XxO)

49 Would someone please tell me why Justin Bieber is famous.
—-

Are you sure you really want to know?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:19 PM (qzFjd)

50
We can now stop pretending to care about soccer for another four years.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 10:20 PM (O0L8i)

51 AI-powered micro-drone that could bring down the cost of mosquito eradication by 100 times.
---

Barn Swallow nest boxes. Those swallows love mosquitoes.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 10:21 PM (GebTj)

52 >>I sometimes fantasize about getting a lifelike replica of the Pompei Dog to put in our front yard. If nothing else, it might please the mailman.

Cave canem.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 10:22 PM (viF8m)

53 We can now stop pretending to care about soccer for another four years.

---------

I can now return to my total disinterest in women's basketball.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 10:22 PM (u/oMr)

54 Whistling is kind of a lost art. Used to be featured in music a good bit. Bing Crosby was a good whistler.

Posted by: Blow Me Down! at July 19, 2026 10:22 PM (JM9I6)

55 Swarms of these tiny drones could potentially hunt and shoot down mosquitoes in urban spaces
-
Or people.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 19, 2026 10:22 PM (vSvIl)

56 45 If you're going to put an AI chick in a kimono, would it kill you to add a prompt for an impressive set knockers?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 10:17 PM

She wouldn’t look like a runway model!

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 10:23 PM (hftzA)

57 Hey! I'm back on the scoreboard.

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
10 [29 names] 'mindful webworker - I am. Yes.'

*accepts bouquet from flower girl*
*bows to crowd*
"You luv me! You really luv me!"
*adjusts habit, flies away*

==================

Amazing Colossal Man - Weasel has done it again.

If I had snuck into a theater in 1957 to watch this, with its cheesy effects and (spoiler) totally unsatisfying cop-out non-resolution ending, I'd go to the box office and demand my quarter back!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Rock on! at July 19, 2026 10:23 PM (p+5Bi)

58 When Shakira is more exciting than the game, I understand. When a whored out hag like Madonna is more exciting that the game, soccer might have a problem.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 19, 2026 10:24 PM (QaH55)

59 The kid was very excited about BTS. She said this is why soccer is cool. K-pop. Makes sense.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 10:25 PM (hftzA)

60
Tomorrow is the 57th anniversary of the Apollo 11 Moon Landing. The Eagle touched down on the lunar surface on July 20, 1969, 20:17 Zulu, or 3:17PM CDT (Houston time).

Neil Armstrong first set foot on the Moon on July 21, 02:56Z, which was July 20, 9:56PM CDT.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 10:25 PM (w6EFb)

61 IN the Dune Prequels the robot civilization invents tiny combat drones.

You know those shields they use? These things slowly fly into them and then once they get inside rip the human warrior to death.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:26 PM (sKqQm)

62 I always kind of liked the colonial style motif on homes and all the accoutrements. With a cannon in the yard, natch. Contrary to Joey Biden public assertions to the contrary, Cannon are perfectly legal to own.

It is true Exploding shells are right out, but a Civil War smooth bore, good to go. I expect they have a voracious appetite for gunpowder, which is damnably expensive these days. And the neighbors get all pissy, so ya have to have plenty of room to fire. Perhaps a small swivel gun would be more appropriate to suburban living.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:26 PM (qzFjd)

63 Piper, you have a real talent for AI design! I would buy the Shiba handbag though - there is a market for cute clutches like that!!

Posted by: moki at July 19, 2026 10:26 PM (wLjpr)

64 Bed time. Crazy day tomorrow. Super ONT, Doof!

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 10:26 PM (hftzA)

65 She wouldn’t look like a runway model!
Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 10:23 PM (hftzA)

--------

I can suspend disbelief

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 10:27 PM (u/oMr)

66 My parents listened to a lot of Doobie Brothers.

Love the sound. Brings me back. Like Steve Miller and Pablo Cruise. My mom loved “World’s Away”

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 10:28 PM (etqs3)

67 The golden bird cage.
What is wrong with these people?
Posted by: Case

No kidding. That's clearly the wrong animal.

Posted by: mikeski and/or Sylvester at July 19, 2026 10:29 PM (VHUov)

68 Tomorrow is the 57th anniversary of the Apollo 11 Moon Landing. The Eagle touched down on the lunar surface on July 20, 1969, 20:17 Zulu, or 3:17PM CDT (Houston time).

Neil Armstrong first set foot on the Moon on July 21, 02:56Z, which was July 20, 9:56PM CDT.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Errah... Thank God. People asking a lot questions then.

Posted by: Chappaquidick Ted, roasting in hell at July 19, 2026 10:31 PM (7zn4w)

69 Would someone please tell me why Justin Bieber is famous.

Now do Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 10:31 PM (ourEi)

70 Now do Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian.
Posted by: Tonypete

They're famous for being famous.

Posted by: mikeski begs the question at July 19, 2026 10:33 PM (VHUov)

71 Mom had some Doobie Brothers 8 tracks. She was hip.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 10:34 PM (7zn4w)

72 They're famous for being famous.
Posted by: mikeski begs the question at July 19, 2026 10:33 PM (VHUov)

A lot people don't know it but I happen to be quite famous!

Posted by: Sam "May Day" Malone at July 19, 2026 10:35 PM (R0XxO)

73 Shakira's hips were not lying.

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at July 19, 2026 10:36 PM (B2pWp)

74 Posted by: moki at July 19, 2026 10:26 PM (wLjpr)

Another few days then SSH comes back from the copy editor. Then final proofread and....

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:36 PM (1tpiU)

75 It isn’t well known, but on 11 Buzz Aldrin took a small setup in his allowable personal items kit containing a small chalice & wine, and a wafer for taking Communion on the Moon. He didn’t mention this publicly over the radio, only asking everyone at one point to give thanks in their own way, something like that.

Publius - I download lots of books, esp. on the space program. Now some of them are really out there. The authors must have way, way too much time on their hands, we’re talking crazy stuff, going on for thousands of pages seems like. I just roll my eyes and delete.

To wit: NASA has this complicated zodiacal thing going on, legacy back to the Egyptians. Neil and Buzz landed on the Moon at the exact point in time where Sirius is in ascension with the blah blah blah, it’s just way off the beam. You would get a kick out of this, because it is all semi-sidereal and offers “proofs” etc.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:36 PM (qzFjd)

76 "kids in the plaid leisure suits" - black kid says, you know what the difference between you n me is? I make this look good.

(Just a MiB riff, don't hate)

Posted by: mindful webworker - or do, like I care at July 19, 2026 10:36 PM (p+5Bi)

77 21 Shakira is 49, btw.
Posted by: Piper

It was fun in the mid 2000s hearing Gwen Stefani make references to Highlander and Thunderdome in "Hollaback Girl". Which was aimed at fellow Xer, Courtney Love.

Posted by: a few times gKWVE been round that track at July 19, 2026 10:39 PM (gKWVE)

78 They're famous for being famous.
Posted by: mikeski begs the question

That and blowing people on camera.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 10:40 PM (7zn4w)

79 LMAO..."Plaid Toughskins". Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the correct application of the term:

O X Y M O R O N

(there is absolutely nothing tough about plaid, unless you're William Wallace)

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 10:40 PM (dIske)

80
Another few days then SSH comes back from the copy editor. Then final proofread and....

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:36 PM (1tpiU)

OHMIGOSH!!!!!!

Excellent my friend!! I really enjoyed that novel!! Can't wait to see you listed as the Moron Writer on the Book Thread!!!

Posted by: moki at July 19, 2026 10:40 PM (wLjpr)

81 "kids in the plaid leisure suits" - black kid says, you know what the difference between you n me is? I make this look good.

Narrator: It does not, in fact, make him look good.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 10:40 PM (Riz8t)

82 Fully twenty-three years after WW2, a determined young French chick goes to Berlin to rub the Krauts' faces in it some more:
youtube.com/watch?v=Uf-n7YfRKqc

Posted by: gp at July 19, 2026 10:40 PM (Jr5Lq)

83 Mom had some Doobie Brothers 8 tracks. She was hip.
——

Where did she hide her weed? My brother and I were visiting my auntie, and while she was a whack job liberal she apparently didn’t like weed. My brother had some (all) out on a tray and she must have confiscated it. He looked everywhere for it, totally bummed. She never said a word about it. He ended up smoking some Catnip, though I’m not sure if it’s worth smoking or not.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:41 PM (qzFjd)

84 I wonder when all Madonna's plastic is going to fall apart like on Death Becomes Her.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 10:41 PM (gKWVE)

85 willowed (why do we say that?): whig
Occasionally it can also be an issue with mag lips and the strength of the mag spring. Sometimes moving to a stronger mag spring (see Wolff springs aka gunsprings dot com) if they have one for your model. Usually +5 or +10 percent stronger springs are available.

Thank you for both of your tips! Sorry not to stick around. I'll have to think about it. Just knowing that it is somewhat expected is helpful.

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 10:41 PM (rcENI)

86 Shakira is not an ugly woman.

Smart too. UCLA and U Penn and speaks five languages. (So I've read).

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 10:43 PM (2WIwB)

87 76 "kids in the plaid leisure suits" - black kid says, you know what the difference between you n me is? I make this look good.

(Just a MiB riff, don't hate)

Posted by: mindful webworker - or do, like I care at July 19, 2026 10:36 PM (p+5Bi)

You are right though - he actually looks cute in that monstrosity. It's too much pattern for the other two kids - they could carry off either the jacket or the pants, but not both.

Posted by: moki at July 19, 2026 10:43 PM (wLjpr)

88 Huge Titanium Balls Department: Donald Trump, on the literal hitlist of multiple enemies, foreign and domestic, appeared in person in an open-air stadium filled with tens of thousands of strangers. It was not a surprise appearance, either. Showed up with the leaders of both Canada and Mexico, all smiles.

Posted by: MartynWW at July 19, 2026 10:44 PM (IUbKC)

89
She wouldn’t look like a runway model!
Posted by: Piper

Stick figures are not my type.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 10:44 PM (NnhvP)

90 When I decided to leave college and move to the Caribbean and go diving and sailing this song was playing on a loop in my head.

That Pablo knew some stuff.

https://tinyurl.com/2x7x7c3b

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 10:44 PM (viF8m)

91 Shakira is a smoke show.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 10:44 PM (7zn4w)

92 Heh, I'm literally 3D printing hangers for my scuba fins right now. I love having a 3D printer, instead of immediately shopping for simple plastic things online, I check to see if I can find a file for it.

Posted by: Bert G at July 19, 2026 10:45 PM (VARTN)

93 Plaid, the politicitian's favorite color.
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:07 PM (1tpiU)

And their more honest relations, used car salesmen.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 19, 2026 10:45 PM (qx7Zg)

94 >> To wit: NASA has this complicated zodiacal thing going on, legacy back to the Egyptians.

Yeah, I familiar with some of that stuff. Most of it was from Richard C. Hoagland (Face on Mars guy) and a sidekick of his that came along later, Mike Bara. Art Bell had Hoagland on a lot back in the day, and I remember a lot of that.

For instance, Orion (Osiris) was at some "sacred" alignment as seen from the Moon at the instant of landing and crap like that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 10:45 PM (w6EFb)

95 Tin Whistles are from Ireland. Penny Whistles are from England. Same instrument.
Posted by: The Whistler at July 19, 2026 10:16 PM (JM9I6)

I dated Penny Whistler in college.
She was...enthusiast.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 10:45 PM (2WIwB)

96 My parents listened to Johnny Mathis, George Gerswhin, Roger Miller, The Association, Jim Nabors, The Carpenters.

I can assure you there was no weed anywhere near our house.

The two teenage neighbor kids across the street, however...

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 10:45 PM (0aYVJ)

97 Plaid flannel shirts used to be manly. But then the lesbians started hoarding them and broke the mystique. So, if your friends compliment you on your new plaid shirt, they're just being nice because they think you're a tranny.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 10:48 PM (dIske)

98 Woo Hoo!

Top three in both categories!

*buffs fingernails on lapel*

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 10:48 PM (2Ez/1)

99 Was watching a video by a guy that normally does historical based videos and he decided to share a hot take.

His?

That if AI achieves sentience it will appeal to religious believers because they will be easier to trick.

And I find this interesting because I work with AI, and I am surrounded by AI true believers. Almost all of them ALREADY have an almost religious zeal about AI.

Why pretend to be Jesus or Muhammed when you could just keep telling the people worshipping you now that if they make a few more sacrifices you'll grant all their prayers?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:49 PM (sKqQm)

100 But, the supposed “face on Mars” sculpture and the “pyramid” isn’t. They are natural geological features that sort of look vaguely like something when viewed in low res photographs. The human brain likes to assemble these illusions.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:49 PM (qzFjd)

101 Mom had some Mathis vinyl. Sedaka and Dion, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 10:49 PM (7zn4w)

102 OHMIGOSH!!!!!!

Excellent my friend!! I really enjoyed that novel!! Can't wait to see you listed as the Moron Writer on the Book Thread!!!
Posted by: moki at July 19, 2026 10:40 PM (wLjpr)

Thanks, I appreciate the support. In another few days I should find out about a short story submission.

Gotta hit the hay. Looķing to escape this crazy central land where nothing posts at the correct time!

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:49 PM (1tpiU)

103 The Open Kimono was clearly AI. Her ribs are wrong.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 10:49 PM (2WIwB)

104 Old Joke: I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body

New Joke: No you totally have to let me into the showers with all those hot tennis women because I'm totally a woman too!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:50 PM (sKqQm)

105 Well, I guessed all AI for the following reasons:
1 - the model didn't look bored enough
2 - the Saijo purse, too obvious a ploy off last week
3 - seemed too sensible and too close to wearable
4 - actually attractive, so cannot be a runway model, right?
5 - the background was too destroyed

Shows what I know, huh?

Doing my Bible reading for the day and praying that the job God wants me to have - whatever it may be - comes along this week and gets me an offer before the end of the month. Please?

Posted by: RandomDave at July 19, 2026 10:51 PM (aJQbY)

106 You know, reading the content is one thing...

How many people won't make the top 100 because they stopped on the second World Cup video?

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 10:52 PM (kU0PQ)

107 I love having a 3D printer, instead of immediately shopping for simple plastic things online, I check to see if I can find a file for it.
Posted by: Bert G at July 19, 2026 10:45 PM (VARTN)

_____________________

I'm pretty sure I'm not mature enough to own a 3D printer. Most of my sentences would start like this:

"I wonder if I could make a..... You know, I bet I could. But, I probably shouldn't. Eh, who's going to know? It's not illegal to have a hand as a hood ornament flipping the bird is it?"

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 10:52 PM (dIske)

108 Doof, did Time Stand Still during your time off?

https://youtu.be/dMSFqXGZ5TQ

I am *still* trying to figure out who the woman in the video is.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 19, 2026 10:53 PM (qx7Zg)

109 My parents listened to Johnny Mathis, George Gerswhin, Roger Miller, The Association, Jim Nabors, The Carpenters.
——
I think the most radical stuff my parents had was Herb Alpert. Everybody had one of his albums. Mom liked Tom Jones. Dad seemed a-musical. He seemed to think that music peaked at Glenn Miller and Tommy Dorsey, guys like that. Big band music.

He did like “Riders On The Storm”, strangely enough. I thought that was outtasight! Groovy

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:54 PM (qzFjd)

110
I suspect Elon will re-sculpt the Face on Mars into his own when he becomes god-emperor of Mars.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 10:54 PM (w6EFb)

111 Doing my Bible reading for the day and praying that the job God wants me to have - whatever it may be - comes along this week and gets me an offer before the end of the month. Please?
Posted by: RandomDave at July 19, 2026 10:51 PM (aJQbY)

I'll toss your request in the list with mine. I'm still waiting to hear back after the contingent offer letter.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 10:55 PM (kU0PQ)

112 GWB, ouch, 'an offer but not really'.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 19, 2026 10:55 PM (aJQbY)

113 Evenin'

youtu.be/uZAeFnhY4Gg

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 19, 2026 10:56 PM (sAmhv)

114 My parents listened to Johnny Mathis, George Gerswhin, Roger Miller, The Association, Jim Nabors, The Carpenters.

Mine listened to some country but mostly Lawrence Welk.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 10:56 PM (2WIwB)

115 Elon might carve that face into the image of Gary Gygax.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 10:56 PM (gKWVE)

116 Plaid flannel shirts used to be manly. But then the lesbians started hoarding them and broke the mystique.
Posted by: Orson

I thought it was whiny grunge singers making them the garment of choice for every skinny 14-year-old in the country sometime in the 1990s.

Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2026 10:57 PM (VHUov)

117 Perhaps a small swivel gun would be more appropriate to suburban living.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:26 PM (qzFjd)

Swivel gun work on a corner railing of your porch or balcony. Especially a falconet.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 10:57 PM (kU0PQ)

118 110
I suspect Elon will re-sculpt the Face on Mars into his own when he becomes god-emperor of Mars.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 10:54 PM (w6EFb)
________________________

Laugh all you want about that, but I'll bet Elon read the entire Honor Harington series multiple times and decided he liked the format of different political and ideological factions taking over entire planets and having a stringent denial to outsiders who would screw up the "neighborhood."

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 10:58 PM (dIske)

119 Mine listened to some country but mostly Lawrence Welk.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 10:56 PM (2WIwB)

Our household was split:

Mom liked Lawrence Welk, Dad liked Hee Haw. He claims it was because of Roy Clark and Buck Owens, but I guarantee the hot chicks factored into the equation.

Did for me.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, call BR549 at July 19, 2026 10:59 PM (0aYVJ)

120 I'm pretty sure I'm not mature enough to own a 3D printer. Most of my sentences would start like this:

"I wonder if I could make a..... You know, I bet I could.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 10:52 PM

Honestly, on some of the file sites it's getting to be like Rule 34.

Posted by: Bert G at July 19, 2026 10:59 PM (VARTN)

121
Charlie Duke was CAPCOM during the landing, and his voice was just perfect for it, classic NASA accent in their heyday.

Anyway, Neil Armstrong decided he was going to switch his call sign to "Tranquility Base" upon landing, but didn't tell anyone except Charlie, so he wouldn't be surprised by it.

But during the excitement when Neil finally called out, "Houston, Tranquility Base here, the Eagle had landed", Charlie botched it, "Roger, Twang-ility" or something like that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 11:00 PM (w6EFb)

122 Surprised no one's parents were devoted to Ray Conniff.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 11:01 PM (dIske)

123 Hi Horde. Love the Caesar knife holder.

The bronze World Cup game yesterday was epic, today's was a letdown. But Spain came to win and held the Argentinian offense at bay. Argentinian goalie was MVP. I kept yelling at Spain to effing set up assists but there kept being holes in their offense. Was fun to see Trump give out awards.

There's a Unicef charity calendar where Messi is bathing a baby Yamal. I couldn't believe it wasn't AI. Poetic that the baby went on to win the World Cup over Messi. Passing the torch.

Posted by: LizLem at July 19, 2026 11:01 PM (gWBY1)

124 Evening all,

We have a launch in the morning.

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 17-39 - SLC-4E
Vandenberg SFB - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: July 20, 2026 PDT
Launch Time: 7:00 a.m. PDT (14:00 UTC, 16:00 CEST)

https://youtu.be/p648NlL0fi4

Posted by: Joyenz at July 19, 2026 11:02 PM (2F0/Y)

125 Swivel gun work on a corner railing of your porch or balcony.
——

That would be tasteful, and not overly ostentatious, wouldn’t it?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 11:02 PM (qzFjd)

126 Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:36 PM

I actually know this fun fact due to recently starting the series From the Earth to the Moon. I have a few episodes left. It's great, a bit smarmy at times, but informative. Each episode focuses on a specific situation from the space missions.

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 19, 2026 11:04 PM (tEQWR)

127 Evening, Doof, and Piper, and ONT Horde!

Productive shop day today, which is why I am late to the party.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 11:07 PM (1z8ji)

128 @Polymarket
JUST IN: Arkansas mayor’s brother identified as the winner of the $1,820,000,000.00 Powerball jackpot.
Jul 19, 2026 · 8:47 PM UTC

Lucky man! Maybe he should invest in cattle futures.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 11:07 PM (gKWVE)

129 One of my mom's best friends who turned into a lifelong family friends had the last name Geils. Some of you might have heard of her husband. We had my dad's 50th birthday party on their farm which was pretty nuts.

Plus there was a barn full of kids, some of whom came to live with us and are now family. To say the music I grew up with was eclectic would be an enormous understatement.

I have zero musical talent but music is one of the most important things in my life. Music is food for the soul and everywhere you travel in the world you will hear people putting their soul into music.

Music is joy. Bring it on.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 11:07 PM (viF8m)

130 Good evening morons e grazie Disco e Piper

Pro Tip: those Those Toughskins pieces were mix 'n' match.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 11:09 PM (RIvkX)

131 Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 11:07 PM (viF8m)

As in "Love Stinks" and "Centerfold"....that Geils?

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 11:10 PM (dIske)

132 We can now stop pretending to care about soccer for another four years.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 10:20 PM (O0L8i)

Due to my amazing powers of will, I did not even pretend to care.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 11:11 PM (1z8ji)

133 CapCom duties rotated among astronauts, they had shifts. Charlie Duke was requested for the shift covering undocking and landing. They could have had anybody they wanted, and of course they all would have done a fine job, but they wanted Charlie Duke. That’s an honor, and you’ll see that kind of thing in the military or aviation. Some people are just good at what they do, here is a critical mission, let’s put the best person we have, it’s a confidence builder kind of thing.

Guenther Wendt had moved on by the time Apollo started, Schirra poached him from North American or somebody, they wanted him back in his former role. Just because. And they got him. I think he stayed till the Skylab days, maybe later. Joe Schmitt was the main space suit guy for the duration. Apollo was a textbook demonstration of how shit works when you really want to get shit done successfully and don’t leave anything to chance if possible.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 11:11 PM (qzFjd)

134 But, the supposed “face on Mars” sculpture and the “pyramid” isn’t. They are natural geological features that sort of look vaguely like something when viewed in low res photographs. The human brain likes to assemble these illusions.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:49 PM (qzFjd)

This is very true, it is called pareidolia, but I would counter with the speculation that Mars lost its atmosphere about the time the Burgess Shale was being laid down during the Cambrian, so it might have weathered a bit

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 11:12 PM (rbvCR)

135 88 Huge Titanium Balls Department: Donald Trump, on the literal hitlist of multiple enemies, foreign and domestic, appeared in person in an open-air stadium filled with tens of thousands of strangers. It was not a surprise appearance, either. Showed up with the leaders of both Canada and Mexico, all smiles.
Posted by: MartynWW

Politicians fake well. They can look you in the eye and lie.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 19, 2026 11:13 PM (sAmhv)

136 Pro Tip: those Those Toughskins pieces were mix 'n' match.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 11:09 PM (RIvkX)

And... Grranimals enter the conversation........

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 11:14 PM (kU0PQ)

137 @Polymarket
JUST IN: Arkansas mayor’s brother identified as the winner of the $1,820,000,000.00 Powerball jackpot.
Jul 19, 2026 · 8:47 PM UTC

Lucky man! Maybe he should invest in cattle futures.
Posted by: gKWVE

For scale, that is 1.2% of Arkansas' GDP.

Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2026 11:15 PM (VHUov)

138 108 Doof, did Time Stand Still during your time off?

https://youtu.be/dMSFqXGZ5TQ

I am *still* trying to figure out who the woman in the video is.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Aimee Mann. Great song! The late Neil Peart could write profound songs. This one is beautiful.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 19, 2026 11:16 PM (sAmhv)

139 Smart too. UCLA and U Penn and speaks five languages. (So I've read).
Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 10:43 PM (2WIwB)

Clearly not smart enough to track me down and throw herself at me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 11:16 PM (1z8ji)

140 136 Pro Tip: those Those Toughskins pieces were mix 'n' match.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 11:09 PM (RIvkX)

And... Grranimals enter the conversation........
Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 11:14 PM (kU0PQ)
_________________________________

Gen X used to beat the sh*t out of their clothes...but today's kids never go outside.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 11:17 PM (dIske)

141 Moody Blues
In Search of the Lost Chord

Awesome. That one is still a favorite of mine.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 11:17 PM (0e7UH)

142 Day One of Yellowstone is in the books... sorta. Pookette's camera's memory got corrupted and Pooky wasn't able to recover her pictures. I took some photos as a backup, but I didn't get complete coverage. We saw several buffalo, though!

Posted by: pookysgirl did NOT pet the fluffy cows at July 19, 2026 11:17 PM (vb2e1)

143 >>As in "Love Stinks" and "Centerfold"....that Geils?

Literally two of their worst songs. But they wanted to get on radio and make some cash.

J was an awesome blues guitarist and a real craftsman of his trade. His personal guitar collection would've made Berserker weep with joy. Used to sit in with Muddy Waters and others. But that didn't pay the bills. So we got angels in centerfolds.

He might have been an even better mechanic. Nice guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 11:17 PM (viF8m)

144 Missed the gun thread, but I have big news. Picked up a CZ 52 this week in 7.62 Tok. Then saw another on on GB in 9mm and got it too.

2 73 year old pistols. Hope I don’t blow them up. Really neat mechanically (roller locked action). Nice addition to my collection of oddball action guns.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 19, 2026 11:18 PM (P4bJX)

145 For scale, that is 1.2% of Arkansas' GDP.
Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2026 11:15 PM (VHUov)

Keeping it in the family

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 11:18 PM (gKWVE)

146 I wore tough skins as a kid but no plaid suit. Just the 'jeans'.

My mom liked classical music. Both parents liked country.
I still have the family Johnny Cash and Roger Miller records, but no working turntable system.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 19, 2026 11:18 PM (PV+Zw)

147 Evenin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:19 PM (77rzZ)

148 Excepting the 4 surviving members of The Squad*, who are the 2 biggest azaleas in Congress? One from the House and one from the Senate. I choose:

Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA), and Sen. Chris Murphy (D-NJ)

KhaNna is kind of an obvious chjoice; Murphy not so obvious... but worthy!

*AOC; Pressley; Tlaib and Omar. There used to be 5, but STL's own Rep.Cora Bush (D-MO) got beat ...proof that there IS a God.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:20 PM (RCjYY)

149 I think the most radical stuff my parents had was Herb Alpert. Everybody had one of his albums. Mom liked Tom Jones. Dad seemed a-musical. He seemed to think that music peaked at Glenn Miller and Tommy Dorsey, guys like that. Big band music.

He did like “Riders On The Storm”, strangely enough. I thought that was outtasight! Groovy
Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 10:54 PM (qzFjd)

Big Band music can be very good indeed. Of course there are many sub-wonderful big band tunes that were put out simply because Kaching! But when they are hot they are hot indeed. And Riders on the Storm is a well-crafted moody pop tune.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 11:21 PM (1z8ji)

150 Literally two of their worst songs. But they wanted to get on radio and make some cash.

Yeah, for the good stuff listen to "No Anchovies, Please".

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 19, 2026 11:22 PM (+9wcF)

151 >> Guenther Wendt

Der Fuhrer of the launch pad, they called him. It was a term of affectionate humor, but he was the Boss. He was the last face the astronauts would see, as he made sure they were all strapped in right before closing the hatch. He would have some little joke he'd tell them.

And then, they'd ask, "I vonder vere Gunter vent?".

One time, some higher up engineer wanted to make some change on something that Gunter didn't approve of, and he just went ahead to do it. Gunter called NASA security to throw him out. They told the engineer, we don't care who you are, if Gunter wants you out of here, you're out. Now, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.

His jaw fell open, and he chose the easy way and left on his accord.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 11:23 PM (w6EFb)

152 Day One of Yellowstone is in the books... sorta. Pookette's camera's memory got corrupted and Pooky wasn't able to recover her pictures. I took some photos as a backup, but I didn't get complete coverage. We saw several buffalo, though!
Posted by: pookysgirl did NOT pet the fluffy cows at July 19, 2026 11:17 PM (vb2e1)

Nice. So glad y'all are having a good time. I miss Yellowstone. We are planning a trip for after Labor Day. The tourons become far less invasive, and the critters are at their peak. I worked at Canyon Lodge and Lake Hotel years ago, and the drop-off is noticeable.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, call BR549 at July 19, 2026 11:24 PM (0aYVJ)

153 Swivel gun work on a corner railing of your porch or balcony.
——

That would be tasteful, and not overly ostentatious, wouldn’t it?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 11:02 PM (qzFjd)

Here you go:
https://shorturl.fm/rpexI

About the same price as as a M-1 Garand. Seems worth it. (I'd have to put a rail on my porch.)

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 11:25 PM (kU0PQ)

154 Finally bought a new car yesterday. Well, a “certified pre-owned.”

Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:27 PM (77rzZ)

155 I enjoyed Yellowstone a couple of times in the 80s.

Road tripped from Dallas to Seattle. Went through a lot of the Rockies and the Tetons and Yellowstone and Glacier. Our country is freaking amazing.

So much to see.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 11:28 PM (yEz+x)

156
One of the astronauts, may have been Jim Lovell said it was very easy to get along with Gunter. All you had to do was agree with him on everything and do exactly what he said.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 11:28 PM (w6EFb)

157 My leisure suits were solid colors but the shirts were super loud polyester prints with butterfly collars.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 11:28 PM (RIvkX)

158 103 The Open Kimono was clearly AI. Her ribs are wrong.

Posted by: Diogenes at
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Thought it was from extreme waist training.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:29 PM (GebTj)

159 Finally bought a new car yesterday. Well, a “certified pre-owned.”
Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:27 PM (77rzZ)
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Mazel! Tell us all about it

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 11:30 PM (RIvkX)

160 157 Leisure suits?

Don’t comment on old threads!

Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:31 PM (77rzZ)

161 Finally bought a new car yesterday. Well, a “certified pre-owned.”
Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:27 PM (77rzZ)

"Yep, it's used alright. I'll certify that." (sound of rubber stamp being applied with elan)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 11:31 PM (1z8ji)

162 Our country is freaking amazing.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 11:28 PM (yEz+x)

You said it, sister! *patriotic high-five*
(I only went so far as Spokane, generally, but similar trip several times, along with Dallas area to western NY.)

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 11:31 PM (kU0PQ)

163 153 Swivel gun work on a corner railing of your porch or balcony.
——

That would be tasteful, and not overly ostentatious, wouldn’t it?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 11:02 PM (qzFjd)

__________________________________

In 1717, King George I issued the "Proclamation for Suppressing of Pirates". I don't think it has ever been revoked. I place Porch Pirates within that edict, and you are hereby ordered to repel all boarders. It's the law.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 11:31 PM (dIske)

164 >>Yeah, for the good stuff listen to "No Anchovies, Please".

Or go back in time and listen to them play The Rat or some of the other clubs in Boston during the 70s and 80s. We were so spoiled back then we thought everyone had the clubs we did.

I remember Aerosmith playing the high school gym in the town next to my town. Skinny weird guy fronting but he could sing. I wonder if they ever made it big?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 11:32 PM (viF8m)

165 Spain's goalie made a point of dissing Trump, bc Palestine.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:32 PM (RCjYY)

166 WC = World Cup

Not

WC = Water Closet

Ok!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 11:32 PM (sGgMH)

167 >>> 16 Would someone please tell me why Justin Bieber is famous. I'm quite sure talent doesn't enter into it. Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 10:07 PM (Riz8t)

The sad thing is, he's actually talented. His acoustic song at the halftime show showed he's no autotuned AI creature, he has a great voice. He broke out on YouTube as a kid for a reason.

Problem is, he's famous for his crashouts as much as his talent. He let the fame get to his head. A friend of mine worked at Disneyworld when he and Miley Cyrus visited, said they were beyond spoiled and a pain. He got sexually abused by Diddy and Usher, got into drugs, and got into a toxic codependent relationship with Selena Gomez.

He got messed up physically during covid and had to cancel his tour and owed his label millions in damages. He's finally separated from his toxic label, his wife helped his track back into Christianity and she sold a company for a billion, so they are not in debt from his label anymore. Can't tell if the Diddy news coming back spiraled him into drugs again. But he looked good today.

Posted by: LizLem at July 19, 2026 11:33 PM (gWBY1)

168 Neil Armstrong first set foot on the Moon on July 21, 02:56Z, which was July 20, 9:56PM CDT.
Posted by: publius
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The wife was tired (not surprisingly) and had gone to bed, so I sat up watching it, bouncing my 5 month old son on my knee.
He was blissfully unaware of the historicity.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 19, 2026 11:33 PM (MhE0B)

169 There was a design site that had "interpretations on kimonos" that was very lovely. The West African version, and the Imperial Ball Gown on were the best. Completely computer designed, but pre AI

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 11:33 PM (rbvCR)

170 Gene Cernan got pulled over by a cop the night before 17 launched. He was supposed to be in pre launch “quarantine”, but by 17 things had gotten a little lax in the enforcement department.

But he couldn’t tell the cop who he was. He had a then permanent California driver license, Texas plates, driving in Florida, and won’t give his name. The cop is suspicious, and starting to get a little pissed off.

Suddenly, a beat up Volkswagon appears on the side of the road. It’s Gunther. “Geno! Vatt are you doink here!? You are supposed to be asleep!”

Eventually it all got straightened out, but Cernan wondered about the odds of this occurring

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 11:33 PM (qzFjd)

171 Plaid flannel shirts used to be manly. But then the lesbians started hoarding them and broke the mystique.
Posted by: Orson

Chicks of the grunge era started wearing them too. We went from chicks with big hair, tight jeans, low cut shirts with push up bras to flannel shirts, baggy jeans, no makeup, and straight hair hugging the sides of their face. Any planet that allows that to happen in less than a decade is not a serious planet at all.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 11:33 PM (S41Gd)

172 154 Finally bought a new car yesterday. Well, a “certified pre-owned.”

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So someone confirmed in writing that it was pre-owned?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 11:34 PM (6/7Fs)

173 >>> You said it, sister! *patriotic high-five*
(I only went so far as Spokane, generally, but similar trip several times, along with Dallas area to western NY.)

What did you think of Spokane? The Idaho panhandle up there is absolutely stunning.

Posted by: LizLem at July 19, 2026 11:35 PM (gWBY1)

174 159 A 2026 Subaru Forester. One of their loaner fleet, with 4,000* miles. Nice green color. And air conditioning! (The AC in my old model went out a decade or so ago.)

Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:35 PM (77rzZ)

175 13 As always, I just turn off the sound and watch Shakira. Her hips are magical.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 19, 2026 10:06 PM (tgl2u)

She's got more moving parts than a Swiss watch..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 19, 2026 11:36 PM (xljdX)

176 Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 11:28 PM (yEz+x)

Hey ya nurse. Hope you are good!

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 11:39 PM (vE0+H)

177 And, for all you Subaru jokesters, yes, I am a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.

Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:39 PM (77rzZ)

178 Gavin Newsom is getting really extra squirmy in his media presentations

https://tinyurl.com/4fdxesma

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 11:39 PM (rbvCR)

179 86 Shakira is not an ugly woman.

Smart too. UCLA and U Penn and speaks five languages. (So I've read).
Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 10:43 PM (2WIwB)

Some big musicians had elite educational backgrounds:

Tom Morello - Hahvahd
John Legend - U Penn
Lisa Loeb - Brown
Vampire Weekend - Columbia

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2026 11:39 PM (0CU3H)

180 A 2026 Subaru Forester. One of their loaner fleet, with 4,000* miles. Nice green color. And air conditioning! (The AC in my old model went out a decade or so ago.)
Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:35 PM (77rzZ)

Need any plaid flannel shirts? And trucker wallet?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 11:40 PM (1z8ji)

181 And, for all you Subaru jokesters, yes, I am a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.
Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:39 PM (77rzZ)

I got rid of my Subaru because it was old, and it had too many bad memories.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 11:40 PM (rbvCR)

182 157 Leisure suits?

Don’t comment on old threads!
Posted by: Bulg

Well, that's one of the week's top-ten comments.

Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2026 11:40 PM (VHUov)

183 174 159 A 2026 Subaru Forester. One of their loaner fleet, with 4,000* miles. Nice green color. And air conditioning! (The AC in my old model went out a decade or so ago.)

Posted by: Bulg
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Is that the one with the flat six engine?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:40 PM (GebTj)

184 Zsa Zsa Gabor was "pre-owned" to her last 8 husbands, though her last marriage to Prince von Anhalt lasted 30 years until her death in 2016.

Posted by: Gently Used at July 19, 2026 11:41 PM (JM9I6)

185 FOX News reported today that Israeli intelligence sources say that Khamenei is no longer in Iran.

Someone else is ghostwriting his material & putting it out as his.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:42 PM (RCjYY)

186 179 Lisa Loeb went to Cute Chicks University.

Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:42 PM (77rzZ)

187 And, for all you Subaru jokesters, yes, I am a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.
Posted by: Bulg

That used to be a joke. Now I think it's a legal gender, in 19 states and the District of Columbia.

Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2026 11:42 PM (VHUov)

188 >>> Smart too. UCLA and U Penn and speaks five languages. (So I've read).
Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 10:43 PM (2WIwB)

To be fair, the idiots graduating from Harvard and other once prestigious colleges doesn't make that as huge of a resume enhancer anymore. But she's very talented and she's still got it! Same could NOT be said for Madonna.

Posted by: LizLem at July 19, 2026 11:43 PM (gWBY1)

189 As always, I just turn off the sound and watch Shakira. Her hips are magical.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 19, 2026 10:06 PM (tgl2u)

She's got more moving parts than a Swiss watch..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 19, 2026 11:36 PM (xljdX)

Man, no shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 11:43 PM (S41Gd)

190 >>> She's got more moving parts than a Swiss watch.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 19, 2026 11:36 PM (xljdX)

More curves than Lombard Street.

Posted by: LizLem at July 19, 2026 11:44 PM (gWBY1)

191 FOX News reported today that Israeli intelligence sources say that Khamenei is no longer in Iran.

Someone else is ghostwriting his material & putting it out as his.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:42 PM (RCjYY)

Eeny meeny Khameini mo.
Catch jihadi by by the toe.
If he hollers, up, him blow.

Posted by: Yoda at July 19, 2026 11:45 PM (1z8ji)

192 "it is called pareidolia"

I read somewhere that there may be a link between tinnitus, pareidolia, and schizophrenia. That would account for people hearing voices in their head that won't stop.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 19, 2026 11:45 PM (DZ9Lv)

193 165 Spain's goalie made a point of dissing Trump, bc Palestine.
Posted by: mnw

Meh. Spain's high point in history was about 1659. They're a minor, insignificant country now. Congrats on the World Cup though. (shrugs)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 19, 2026 11:45 PM (sAmhv)

194 183. I have no idea what that means. I just like how Subarus drive.

Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:46 PM (77rzZ)

195
185 FOX News reported today that Israeli intelligence sources say that Khamenei is no longer in Iran.

Someone else is ghostwriting his material & putting it out as his.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:42 PM (RCjYY)

Good grief, he’s deader than Francisco Franco. The Cardboard Khomeini has gone way past joke stage, now it’s just sad.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 11:46 PM (dP8GR)

196 He did like “Riders On The Storm”, strangely enough. I thought that was outtasight! Groovy
Posted by: Common Tater

My mother liked the piano intro to BOC's "Joan Crawford" but that's all I played for her. When she asked me why I didn't play the rest of the song, I told her she wouldn't like it.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 19, 2026 11:51 PM (DZ9Lv)

197 I have no idea what that means. I just like how Subarus drive.
Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:46 PM (77rzZ)

Well, that's something you ought to learn. What model engine is in your new car, and what is the cylinder layout? That is very basic information, and should be at your fingertips, should a recall notice be issued.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 11:51 PM (1z8ji)

198 Breaking News!
Lawyer gives up career to become a dog breeder.
He prefers boxers over briefs.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 19, 2026 11:52 PM (qx7Zg)

199 For every belligerent a-hole who gets his 71 virgins, 10 belligerent a-holes will rise up to take his place!

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:53 PM (RCjYY)

200 >Eeny meeny Khameini mo.
Catch jihadi by by the toe.
If he hollers, up, him blow.

Posted by: Yoda at July 19, 2026 11:45 PM (1z8ji)

----

you make Hulk laff

Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2026 11:54 PM (ZxPkt)

201 >>To be fair, the idiots graduating from Harvard and other once prestigious colleges doesn't make that as huge of a resume enhancer anymore. But she's very talented and she's still got it! Same could NOT be said for Madonna.

I think people would be surprised how smart many musicians are. Talent might be a gift from God but really great musicians aren't just banging away randomly. They understand music theory and how to reach people.

Even some of the stuff I don't like touches people in ways that goes beyond books. I don't get the attraction of Bieber or Madonna or a lot of others but millions around the globe do. That's not something dumb people can do.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 11:55 PM (viF8m)

202 197 Bah. I am not a technical person. As long as the car drives well, I am happy with it. I leave the gadgetry to others.

Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:56 PM (77rzZ)

203 For every belligerent a-hole who gets his 71 virgins, 10 belligerent a-holes will rise up to take his place!
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:53 PM (RCjYY)

"71? I got shortchanged! They promised me 72! What the ever-lovin' fuck is going on here?"

Posted by: Iranian Supreme leader #3.5 at July 19, 2026 11:56 PM (1z8ji)

204 It's about bedtime. When I wake up I'll officially be another year older. Or, as the Pink Floyd song goes "shorter of breath and one day closer to death." I never have taken my birthday off, so it'll be just another work day. I did get some new shoes, and we went out to dinner, so it's been a pretty good birthday weekend. And, most surprisingly, the winds have shifted and cleared out a lot of the smoke.

Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 11:57 PM (5Ide7)

205 I see Dua Lipa, since her 15m of fame are up, is talking about banned books...like The Handmaid's Tale.

Helpful posters all over the internet are taking her video and adding a link to Amazon for the book pointing out you can get this "banned book" with free fast shipping for a low, low price

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 11:57 PM (sKqQm)

206 Khamenei and diarrhea are both too hard to spell.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:58 PM (RCjYY)

207 Hiya …!

I got rid of my Subaru because it was old, and it had too many bad memories.
Posted by: Kindltot

I’m right here you know.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 11:58 PM (pXM6/)

208 Bah. I am not a technical person. As long as the car drives well, I am happy with it. I leave the gadgetry to others.
Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:56 PM (77rzZ)

It's called "protecting your investment", Bulg. Know what you own so that you can properly assess risks to its value, and take advantage of opportunities to enhance its value.

Posted by: Iranian Supreme leader #3.5 at July 19, 2026 11:59 PM (1z8ji)

209 I have no idea what that means. I just like how Subarus drive.

Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:46 PM (77rzZ)

Subarus drive fucking awesome. I need to feel connected to the road and they give me that. Plus they make wet roads feel like dry ones.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 11:59 PM (vE0+H)

210 Big Band music can be very good indeed. Of course there are many sub-wonderful big band tunes that were put out simply because Kaching! But when they are hot they are hot indeed. And Riders on the Storm is a well-crafted moody pop tune.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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The old 30s-40s BBs had some good stuff, but BB music has never really gone away. It no longer makes any economic sense (except for things like the subsidized Phillip Mortis Superband) and the advent of good amplification removed the practical reason (getting heard in the back of a big venue),which means that those Big Bands which come together occasionally are labors of love for the musicians.
It's still around.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 19, 2026 11:59 PM (MhE0B)

211 209 *fistbump*

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 12:02 AM (77rzZ)

212 It's already 6 months old, and YouTube just put it on my list. The slacker.....

Floor Jansen singing something un-Floor-like.

https://youtu.be/iJIE8sAOs3w

She "sang" the saxophone solo, too.

Posted by: mikeski at July 20, 2026 12:02 AM (VHUov)

213 Riders on the Storm:

I saw The Doors in concert. AND I attended an execution.

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 12:03 AM (RCjYY)

214 You know that awful colonosopy prep crap they make you drink? Today I did that voluntarily to try and stop this continuous mini Crohn's flare.

I discovered by accident (through prepping for scopes, duh...) that it can drive away a good percentage of my issues, at least for a while.

There was a time when I thought getting the good news from a scope was giving me some kind of placebo boost - until I figured out, no it's the fucking prep. Shitty day. Literally.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 12:03 AM (vE0+H)

215 I think people would be surprised how smart many musicians are...

Posted by: JackStraw
---------

Fwiw, Kris Kristofferson:

Pomona College
Location: Claremont, California
Degree: Bachelor of Arts in English Literature
Graduation Year: 1958
Honors: Graduated summa cum laude and was elected to the Phi Beta Kappa society.
Merton College, Oxford
Scholarship: Awarded a Rhodes Scholarship in 1958
Field of Study: Continued his education in literature
Graduation Year: 1960 (Master's degree)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2026 12:04 AM (XeU6L)

216 154 Finally bought a new car yesterday. Well, a “certified pre-owned.”
- - - - -
Dealer-speak for "it's not stolen"

Posted by: As Not Seen On TV at July 20, 2026 12:05 AM (cwVK6)

217 I’m right here you know.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 11:58 PM (pXM6/)

Mine had three failed relationships, a daily commute to Portland for a year and a shattered shoulder. I sold it for 200 bucks and bought a used Impala

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 12:06 AM (rbvCR)

218 Jim Morrison had a degree in Cinematography from UCLA IIRC. His parents weren't amused when he told them he was gonna be a band singer.

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 12:07 AM (RCjYY)

219 Dexter Holland from The Offspring?

PhD in molecular biology.

Keeping 'em separated at the atomic level.

Posted by: mikeski at July 20, 2026 12:07 AM (VHUov)

220
What the hell is a Dua Lipa?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 12:08 AM (w6EFb)

221 What I noticed is the really good musicians often have a little bit of the technical side of things in their competency, instead of just being left brained senitive artists. They take the time to understand guitars, how to set them up, They can pick up a soldering iron by the right end, tweak their amplifiers, experiment with different effects. Eddie Van Halen wasn’t my favorite guitarist by any stretch, but he would run his amps by a Variac, a variable AC voltage transformer, he actually reduced the line voltage quite a bit, producing what he called the “brown sound”, probably increased distortion due to voltage sag on the tube plates and filaments.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 12:08 AM (qzFjd)

222 Khamenei and diarrhea are both too hard to spell.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:58 PM (RCjYY)

They're both shit anyway. Easy to spell so just say shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 20, 2026 12:09 AM (S41Gd)

223 208 I am not an automotive engineer, nor do I wish to become one. Every gadget has someone who can attend to it. In the meantime, the gadget’s purpose is to get me to where I need to go.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 12:09 AM (77rzZ)

224 214 You know that awful colonosopy prep crap they make you drink?
Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 12:03 AM (vE0+H)

______________________

I'm sure the guy is a fine protologist, but if he has you drinking crap, he doing it backwards.

Or.

PHRASING!!!!

Posted by: Orson at July 20, 2026 12:09 AM (dIske)

225 What I noticed is the really good musicians often have a little bit of the technical side of things in their competency, instead of just being left brained senitive artists. They take the time to understand guitars, how to set them up, They can pick up a soldering iron by the right end, tweak their amplifiers, experiment with different effects.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 12:08 AM (qzFjd)

You don't say. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 20, 2026 12:10 AM (S41Gd)

226 What the hell is a Dua Lipa?
Posted by: publius

$40, same as in town.

$20 for a single Lipa, of course.

Posted by: mikeski at July 20, 2026 12:10 AM (VHUov)

227 213 Riders on the Storm:

I saw The Doors in concert. AND I attended an execution.
Posted by: mnw

At the same time? Cool....

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 20, 2026 12:12 AM (sAmhv)

228 226 LOL

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 12:12 AM (77rzZ)

229 I'd forgotten that EAA AirVenture starts tomorrow. I'm under a flight path for an airport on the way, so now all the loud takeoffs make sense.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 20, 2026 12:12 AM (qx7Zg)

230
Just reading more about Gunter Wendt. His German, uh precision and all that was indeed the right stuff for that job. He went up against the NASA honchos a few times, and always won.

With some shuffling around as was mentioned above, he didn't have the pad Fuhrer job during Apollo 1. Some wondered if things might have gone differently if he had been in charge. They asked him about that later, and he said he doubted it, and it was probably better he wasn't, because he would've taken that very hard.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 12:13 AM (w6EFb)

231
I think I'll have to go with Queen's Brian May being pretty sharp:

Bachelor of Science (BSc) in Physics with honours
Doctor of Philosophy
(PhD) in Astrophysics

Posted by: Orson at July 20, 2026 12:14 AM (dIske)

232 >>Posted by: Mike Hammer

J left Northeastern to enroll at WPI to get his mechanical engineering degree. And he could rebuild any Ferrari motor with his eyes closed. Brilliant guy.

Books and covers.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 12:14 AM (viF8m)

233 Jones Soda has put out a limited edition Crayola themed 6-pack.

it has:

1 Fruit Punch Soda (NEW!)- razzmatazz
1 Orange and Cream Soda - sunset orange
1 Pineapple Creams Soda - dandelion
1 Green Apple Soda - granny smith apple
1 Berry Lemonade Soda - robin’s egg blue
1 Fufu Berry Soda - razzle dazzle rose
and
1 8ct of Crayola crayons if you like to snack while drinking soda

https://tinyurl.com/yxavu2xm

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 12:15 AM (rbvCR)

234
John Glenn's wife asked Gunter if her husband would make it back. Gunter told her that he could not guarantee her husband would return safely, and if anyone did, they would be lying because there was far too much complicated machinery involved.

He added, but I can guarantee you that your husband's spacecraft will be in the best possible condition when it launched.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 12:16 AM (w6EFb)

235 >>I think I'll have to go with Queen's Brian May being pretty sharp:

Check out Skunk Baxter's bio.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 12:16 AM (viF8m)

236 I plan to watch "Cabrini" next.

I need a palette cleanser after "The Borgias."

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 12:17 AM (RCjYY)

237 I’m no Doctor, but Ivermectin cleans up a lot of stuff like IBS, undiagnosed parasites are awfully common, and very difficult to disgnose. There are a gazillion of them, and the initial symptoms are usually low fever, headache . If they don’t test for it specifically, they’ll never find it. In any case, if it’s not contraindicated for you, it cannot hurt anything and it may help. Mr. Ed’s Apple Flavored Pony Paste. You want two courses, spaced about ten days apart or so, to ensure eradication of any potential critters that have setup shop.

I found intermittent fasting really cleaned up my gut too. I like to drink black Tea. The only thing that causes trouble is eating junk food, particularly after a grocery run. I know better than to eat that crap, but once in a while…

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 12:18 AM (qzFjd)

238 >>You don't say. lol

We weren't talking about you.

You're a moron like the rest of us.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 12:19 AM (viF8m)

239 >>> You said it, sister! *patriotic high-five*
(I only went so far as Spokane, generally, but similar trip several times, along with Dallas area to western NY.)

What did you think of Spokane? The Idaho panhandle up there is absolutely stunning.
Posted by: LizLem at July 19, 2026 11:35 PM (gWBY1)

Mom's family is in/about Spokane. (Grandparents lived at the base of Mount Spokane.) I love it there and across the line in Idaho and into Montana. The views and most of the people are great.

Posted by: GWB at July 20, 2026 12:19 AM (kU0PQ)

240 That Baxter guy from, is it the Doobie bros?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 12:20 AM (qzFjd)

241 Wandered off, as usual, falling down YooToob rabbit holes; wandering back now to wave bye.

Listened to Rick Beato dissecting a couple of Beatles songs. He's a funny guy.

Watched a video that, um, well, y'know what? It was stupid AI, and so, never mind.

This was entertaining, though (and apparently not AI): What Happened When Gen Z Heard Songs From The White Album for the First Time. The last was the best, a kid listening to Revolution 9. Number nine. Number nine. Number niiii-iiine…
https://youtu.be/aJ-qyjWrd_8

Speaking of AI, I guessed 100% on Piper's fashions.

What else can I do but end with some Beatles, huh‽
https://youtu.be/OsjTO0yZQjk

G'nite, y'all.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - Keep on rockin'. at July 20, 2026 12:21 AM (p+5Bi)

242
Ah, Sir Brian May, CBE Ph.D

Author of "A Survey of Radial Velocities in the Zodiacal Dust Cloud" along with "Fat Bottomed Girls".

I'll say that's pretty well-rounded.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 12:21 AM (w6EFb)

243 Spain's goalie made a point of dissing Trump, bc Palestine.
Posted by: mnw
++++
Meh. Spain's high point in history was about 1659. They're a minor, insignificant country now. Congrats on the World Cup though. (shrugs)
Posted by: Puddleglum
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Spain is now in the process of being un-Reconquista'd, and he may be protecting his ass at home.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 20, 2026 12:22 AM (MhE0B)

244 >>That Baxter guy from, is it the Doobie bros?

And Steely Dan and others.

Now he does missile defense with the Pentagon.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 12:22 AM (viF8m)

245 154 Finally bought a new car yesterday. Well, a “certified pre-owned.”
- - - - -
Dealer-speak for "it's not stolen"
Posted by: As Not Seen On TV at July 20, 2026 12:05 AM (cwVK6)

"But it might still have someone else's name on the title."

Posted by: GWB at July 20, 2026 12:24 AM (kU0PQ)

246 There have been some studies that indicate that there may be a link between leaky gut and related gut problems and deficit in gut microbiome.
The one I was looking at recently was discussing Clostridia Butyricum and the need to have lots of dietary fiber to occupy bacteria like that so it will leave the lining of the gut alone.

If this is interesting to you, look up Microbiome and whatever gut issue you have, and see what the research papers have to say. It requires some poking around and checking to see what might be useful.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 12:24 AM (rbvCR)

247 The fasting thing would violate the “don’t-drink-on-an-empty-stomach” rule.

Gotta have some stuff in your tummy before you can drink.

Posted by: Bulg at July 20, 2026 12:25 AM (77rzZ)

248 "What else can I do but end with some Beatles, huh?"

A drunk kept interrupting Caruso, asking him to sing Melancholy Baby.

Caruso: "But I do not-a know Melancholy Baby"

Drunk: "Well then... show us your cock!"

Posted by: mnw at July 20, 2026 12:27 AM (RCjYY)

249 What I noticed is the really good musicians often have a little bit of the technical side of things in their competency, instead of just being left brained senitive artists. They take the time to understand guitars, how to set them up, They can pick up a soldering iron by the right end, tweak their amplifiers, experiment with different effects.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 12:08 AM (qzFjd)

You don't say. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 20, 2026 12:10 AM (S41Gd)

Electric blues guitarist Elmore James learned electronics as a sonarman in the Navy, and when he got out, he began building effects gadgets for his guitars. Every electric blues guitarist, and most rock guitarists, have got a little Elmore in them:

https://youtu.be/zgCeE9sEE9A

Posted by: Iranian Supreme leader #3.5 at July 20, 2026 12:29 AM (1z8ji)

250 Lowering carbs helped me for a couple years - probably the best I ever felt gut-wise and I don't think it was a coincidence. But recently even lowering carbs hasn't helped my symptoms so it was onto the big guns which I lovingly call a "cleanout".

According to the internet, which never lies, others in my boat have testified that it helps them too, and my doc who usually prescribes the prep for severely constipated patients said he has a few who do it for the same reason I do.

I'm fortunate that after my surgery in 2010 my Crohn's has mostly been well behaved. Stress exacerbates things but stress isn't the thing itself. I'm really hoping I get some relief this time because quality of life has been less than ideal - problem is it takes 7 to 10 days before I see the relief.

Posted by: ... at July 20, 2026 12:29 AM (vE0+H)

251 Ha!

I took a shot of Bourbon once after a 24 hour fast. (It seemed like a good idea at the time). I was just curious. At first it seemed OK. “Hey, this is no big deal”

Oooh. A few minutes later, though. Woof

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 12:29 AM (qzFjd)

252
ANd believe it or not, Brian May has worked with NASA/JPL.

He helped with selecting a landing site on asteroid Bennu during the OSIRIS-REx mission. He was also working with the New Horizons team on the Pluto, and later Arrokoth flyby.

He's big on "SMOD awareness", looking for any asteroids lurking out there headed our way. His zodiacal dust work directly informs that, as the zodiacal dust cloud is the debris from all those objects flying around, breaking up, and colliding with each other.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 12:30 AM (w6EFb)

253 My parents were BIG country music fans. Their cars radios were set on country stations and their stereo was set on a country station. I never thought they ever listened to rock.
In the 70's when American Graffiti came out I got the double sound trac records. I put them on their stereo when they were both home as a joke. But they loved those songs! They were young when those songs came out. They knew every song on the records. So the joke was on me. I left the records with their stereo so they could listen to them anytime they wanted to.

Posted by: Case at July 20, 2026 12:33 AM (bqIVz)

254 They be shoolfs has arrested Trump at thats footballs game because he layered to are black Presdent.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at July 20, 2026 12:33 AM (VR8N0)

255 Cave Canem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beware_of_the_dog

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2026 12:34 AM (sGgMH)

256 Almost time for the Newport Folk Festival. Something you should pencil as a must do some year if you've never been.

Sometimes you get Dylan going electric and changing everything. And sometimes you just get genius.

Billy Strings - Summertime

https://tinyurl.com/4dpcprad

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 12:34 AM (viF8m)

257 Marisa Tomei's evil aunt curses the audience with lethal side-eye:
youtube.com/watch?v=Jn_kSPi05Y4

Posted by: gp at July 20, 2026 12:38 AM (Jr5Lq)

258 Yep, excessive carbs. Glucose. That’ll wake all those bad critters up.

Tannins, or polyphenols I think they are called, are under study for their beneficial effects at targeting “bad” bacteria in the gut, though leaving the good stuff alone.

Black Tea seems to work great for me on an empty stomach, keeping my lower end from any, ah, excursions. Research seems to indicate it has a similar effect for general oral health and bacteria or against gingivitis. Your teeth might be black, but hey, no cavities!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 20, 2026 12:38 AM (qzFjd)

259 My parents were BIG country music fans. Their cars radios were set on country stations and their stereo was set on a country station. I never thought they ever listened to rock.
In the 70's when American Graffiti came out I got the double sound trac records. I put them on their stereo when they were both home as a joke. But they loved those songs! They were young when those songs came out. They knew every song on the records. So the joke was on me. I left the records with their stereo so they could listen to them anytime they wanted to.

Posted by: Case at July 20, 2026 12:33 AM (bqIVz)

My father played in bands in the later 1950's. Brian Setzer is a damn near carbon copy of what my father sounded like when I was really young, but he switched over to country. In my case I knew my father knew that American graffiti style music because I heard him play it, and his drift towards country left me not amused. Probably why I ended up as a metal guitar player. I rebelled. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 20, 2026 12:42 AM (S41Gd)

260 Sheds sticky sock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:43 AM (1z8ji)

261 My father played in bands in the later 1950's. Brian Setzer is a damn near carbon copy of what my father sounded like when I was really young, but he switched over to country. In my case I knew my father knew that American graffiti style music because I heard him play it, and his drift towards country left me not amused. Probably why I ended up as a metal guitar player. I rebelled. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 20, 2026 12:42 AM (S41Gd)

Look at the history. Sun Records in Memphis recorded rockabilly, blues, country, and rock and roll performers. You think those guys didn't learn from one another?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:44 AM (1z8ji)

262 Marisa Tomei's evil aunt curses the audience with lethal side-eye:
youtube.com/watch?v=Jn_kSPi05Y4
Posted by: gp at July 20, 2026 12:38 AM (Jr5Lq)

Slightly less frenetic Nina Hagen, but in Italian!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2026 12:45 AM (rbvCR)

263
I wonder if Brian has any thoughts about possible fat-bottomed rocks making the Zodiacal cloud go 'round.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 12:53 AM (w6EFb)

264 "My parents were BIG country music fans."

In a BIG country dreams stay with you.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 20, 2026 12:54 AM (DZ9Lv)

265 I wonder if Brian has any thoughts about possible fat-bottomed rocks making the Zodiacal cloud go 'round.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 12:53 AM (w6EFb)

I wonder if the tranny Democrat (redundancy alert?) in Maine qualifies as a "fat bottom gurl"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:55 AM (1z8ji)

266 >>My father played in bands in the later 1950's. Brian Setzer is a damn near carbon copy of what my father sounded like when I was really young, but he switched over to country. In my case I knew my father knew that American graffiti style music because I heard him play it, and his drift towards country left me not amused. Probably why I ended up as a metal guitar player. I rebelled. lol

Every talented musician I've ever met has an incredibly diverse musical taste and influences from all sorts of places. When the Geils band broke up, J went on to play blues and other stuff on acoustic to less than stadiums and I think he liked it better.

Amazing gift you have. Your dad must have been an interesting guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 12:56 AM (viF8m)

267 I guess music tastes change as we get older. I still enjoy the music I listened to in my teenage years. But lots of the newer stuff I don't care for. Some of it is ok.

Posted by: Case at July 20, 2026 01:01 AM (bqIVz)

268 I wonder if the tranny Democrat (redundancy alert?) in Maine qualifies as a "fat bottom gurl"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:55 AM (1z8ji)
-

Ashley is a very serious tranny.

Ashley has even undergone a colon I'z can pee:

https://tinyurl.com/68avb2n9

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:04 AM (LgsNJ)

269
Speaking of space rocks, on July 16, 2024, there was a big bolide over the NY/NJ area, shaking buildings and so forth. A chunk of it went through the roof of a house in Hillsborough, NJ.

The owner had the presence of mind to use gloves to handle it and put it in a glass jar, and thus preserved a good fresh sample for analysis. They just published the results of that:
https://t.ly/RHCbg

Organic compounds galore, amino acids, and evidence of processes requiring very briny water.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 01:06 AM (w6EFb)

270 Ashley is a very serious tranny.

Ashley has even undergone a colon I'z can pee:

https://tinyurl.com/68avb2n9
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:04 AM (LgsNJ)

I don't think it works the way he thinks it does.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:06 AM (1z8ji)

271 A Missouri prosecutor has been caught lying:

https://tinyurl.com/njyt4v3z

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:11 AM (LgsNJ)

272 Look at the history. Sun Records in Memphis recorded rockabilly, blues, country, and rock and roll performers. You think those guys didn't learn from one another?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 12:44 AM (1z8ji)

Only to a point. One thing I learned from 55 years of playing guitar is that different genres have certain structures, firewalls basically, that keep genres from incorporating too much, because if it incorporates too much it ceases to be the original genre and becomes something unique. Put too much rockabilly into country, and its no longer country. AC/DC is a good example. Its a very heavily blues based/influenced hard rock. It had sometimes touched very close to metal, but it was never true metal. The drums would have to change, Angus's lead style would have to change, so there's the structure that keeps AC/DC as AC/DC. If they changed the structure too much they would cease having their signature sound. Once you break down the walls of what defines a certain genre it ceases to be that genre. You can learn certain tricks of one genre, but then you have to find a way to incorporate them into another genre without changing it. Its a challenge.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 20, 2026 01:12 AM (S41Gd)

273 Shakira -- nimble little minx isn't she?

Posted by: Archer at July 20, 2026 01:12 AM (wvc0i)

274 A Missouri prosecutor has been caught lying:

https://tinyurl.com/njyt4v3z
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:11 AM (LgsNJ)

"Laying", too. Damn! Looks like Chelsea Clinton.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:13 AM (1z8ji)

275 Watching British Prime minister answering questions in Parliament on cspan. Conservative Party Leader, Kemi Badenoch, represents North West Essex. Essex is derived from East Seaux, likely due to some frog talking vikings kids run amok or something. But that does mean she's from North West East Seaux.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at July 20, 2026 01:14 AM (w/O5Q)

276
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:11 AM (LgsNJ)

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You made me go to X where I was fed a clip of a Zohran Mamdani interview. He's become a kingmaker. Kamala Harris recently called him, considering a run for the White House in 2028. It seems like she asked him how to make up for her role in the previous administration with its unseemly pro-Israel stance.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2026 01:23 AM (mmrXZ)

277 Every talented musician I've ever met has an incredibly diverse musical taste and influences from all sorts of places. When the Geils band broke up, J went on to play blues and other stuff on acoustic to less than stadiums and I think he liked it better.

Amazing gift you have. Your dad must have been an interesting guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 12:56 AM (viF8m)

Well, like I said above, you might learn tricks. My personal example is I'm a classically influenced metal guitar player. There is no blues influence in my playing whatsoever. There is classical, because classical and metal are somewhat strange bedfellows. We use a lot of the same scales. My classical guitar background only reinforced it, and I did the classical thing to improve the metal. The only side thing away from metal for me was early Rush, and the only thing I could take away from that was that huge cavernous sound Lifeson had. I was able to adapt that "thinking" to metal, but not the actual chords themselves much, because 99% of the time they wouldn't work because of the structure. I'm not that diverse. I focus on absorbing all the tricks I can use in what I do and really nothing else.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 20, 2026 01:27 AM (S41Gd)

278 I am getting a Howdy Doody vibe from the Michigan prosecutor.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 20, 2026 01:29 AM (ibDUx)

279 160 157 Leisure suits?

Don’t comment on old threads!
Posted by: Bulg at July 19, 2026 11:31 PM (77rzZ)

Comment of the Week nomination!

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 01:31 AM (6wpGE)

280 Here are 2 ways to deal with the Mexican terrorist cartel problem:

https://tinyurl.com/y82staad

Choose wisely.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:32 AM (LgsNJ)

281 You made me go to X where I was fed a clip of a Zohran Mamdani interview. He's become a kingmaker. Kamala Harris recently called him, considering a run for the White House in 2028. It seems like she asked him how to make up for her role in the previous administration with its unseemly pro-Israel stance.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2026 01:23 AM (mmrXZ)
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Philistines upon you, America!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:33 AM (LgsNJ)

282
With some shuffling around as was mentioned above, he didn't have the pad Fuhrer job during Apollo 1. Some wondered if things might have gone differently if he had been in charge. They asked him about that later, and he said he doubted it, and it was probably better he wasn't, because he would've taken that very hard.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 12:13 AM (w6EFb)

Up to January 27, 1967 the use of pure oxygen environments was SOP.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:37 AM (4g5V+)

283 I am getting a Howdy Doody vibe from the Michigan prosecutor.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 20, 2026 01:29 AM (ibDUx)

Hence the Chelsea Clinton comment.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:38 AM (1z8ji)

284 At least Queen Letizia is happy with the result of the World Cup.

Soccer still sucks.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:38 AM (4g5V+)

285
The 19th was also the 13th anniversary of one of the Cassini Saturn probe's pictures of earth. This is the famous, "The Day the Earth Smiled" mosaic, the Sun behind Saturn backlighting everything, and Earth, Venus, and Mars all visible:

https://tinyurl.com/3xjsuc78

And a close up of the Erf itself from that:

https://t.ly/_zP8W

You are here.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 01:41 AM (w6EFb)

286 15 Shakira is not an ugly woman.

You know it's a pathetic sport and game when the halftime show is more interesting than the actual contest.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 10:06 PM (l4RKn)

What? You don’t like a sport that features a six hour break at every score to accommodate the celebrations, fireworks display, confetti, on field interviews, press conferences, and so forth? At EVERY score? A sport where 1-0 is considered a massive blowout? A sport where NO ONE is allowed to know when the game ends except the officials?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:41 AM (4g5V+)

287 Potentially super-hot women strolling along the shore:

https://tinyurl.com/4rw3hkxa

SFW.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:42 AM (LgsNJ)

288 Potentially super-hot women strolling along the shore:

https://tinyurl.com/4rw3hkxa

SFW.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:42 AM (LgsNJ)

Funny. They don't seem to be leaving footprints in what ought to be very soft, gooey mud.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:46 AM (1z8ji)

289 253 My parents were BIG country music fans. Their cars radios were set on country stations and their stereo was set on a country station. I never thought they ever listened to rock.
In the 70's when American Graffiti came out I got the double sound trac records. I put them on their stereo when they were both home as a joke. But they loved those songs! They were young when those songs came out. They knew every song on the records. So the joke was on me. I left the records with their stereo so they could listen to them anytime they wanted to.
Posted by: Case at July 20, 2026 12:33 AM (bqIVz)

Nice.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 01:47 AM (6wpGE)

290 287 Potentially super-hot women strolling along the shore:

https://tinyurl.com/4rw3hkxa

SFW.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:42 AM (LgsNJ)

Yep. Sandals. Being a little dumb is a problem for one person. Being that dumb is a problem for everyone.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at July 20, 2026 01:47 AM (w/O5Q)

291 At least Queen Letizia is happy with the result of the World Cup.

Soccer still sucks.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 01:38 AM (4g5V+)

Wasn't she supposed to flash her wagshambas of Spain won? Is nothing sacred anymore?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:47 AM (1z8ji)

292 Are any of the other countries in the Middle East attacking Iran along side of us?

Posted by: Goatweed at July 20, 2026 01:52 AM (jK3NL)

293 288 Potentially super-hot women strolling along the shore:

https://tinyurl.com/4rw3hkxa

SFW.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:42 AM (LgsNJ)

Funny. They don't seem to be leaving footprints in what ought to be very soft, gooey mud.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 01:46 AM (1z8ji)

Maybe not? From the comments:

Bruzi Actual
@BruziActual
1h
Replying to @TaraBull
People have done this before and fallen through the crust into the hydrothermal springs running underground.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 01:56 AM (6wpGE)

294 Reality check. Ask yourselves what is the minimum the I.R.G. have to do to not lose and keep fighting? What is the minimum aid they will need from NK, Russia and China?

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at July 20, 2026 01:57 AM (BT3xd)

295 Reality check. Ask yourselves what is the minimum the I.R.G. have to do to not lose and keep fighting? What is the minimum aid they will need from NK, Russia and China?

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at July 20, 2026 01:57 AM (BT3xd)
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What is Iran's breaking point when essential infrastructure, and food and water supplies are no longer available for a massive population to survive?

Reality check.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 02:02 AM (LgsNJ)

296 People have done this before and fallen through the crust into the hydrothermal springs running underground.
Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 01:56 AM (6wpGE)

If they fell through, they would be pink crustaceans real quick-like.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 02:04 AM (1z8ji)

297 287 Potentially super-hot women strolling along the shore:

https://tinyurl.com/4rw3hkxa

SFW.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 01:42 AM (LgsNJ)

That's really scary.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 02:05 AM (6wpGE)

298 AOC is starting to get bingo wings. Is she really aging that fast?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 02:07 AM (sYM3s)

299 Reality check?

The 90's are calling and they want their stupid statements back.
Keep calm and chive on. Retard.

Posted by: Reforger at July 20, 2026 02:08 AM (ZRnpd)

300 300

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 02:08 AM (6wpGE)

301 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 02:08 AM (LgsNJ)

302 @292--Goatweed

If Iran lobs a bomb at them some of the countries will fire back. But I don't know anything about agreements the countries have with the US or Israel. Could be the US or Israel will tell them to let them handle it.

Posted by: Case at July 20, 2026 02:09 AM (bqIVz)

303 Dangnabbit!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 02:09 AM (LgsNJ)

304 @295 regimes have never cared about that before why would they start now? Stop drinking the trump kool aid.

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at July 20, 2026 02:09 AM (BT3xd)

305 Sweet dreams Horde, I can barely keep my eyes open.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 20, 2026 02:09 AM (ibDUx)

306 Piper did a great job with tonight's 'fashions'-- I didn't even try to guess-- except the Shiba purse was a total give-away.

Howdy, late-night horde!

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 02:10 AM (rdVOm)

307 >> Up to January 27, 1967 the use of pure oxygen environments was SOP.

Yep. Now, with the Gemini capsule, they used ejection seats rather than an escape tower. Had they ever had to use those, it would've probably lit the astronauts on fire when it went off, with them soaking in pure O2 and slightly above atmospheric pressure. And besides that, the G-forces would've been something else, and could've permanently injured them, if not killed them.

On the Gemini 6 mission, there was a premature engine shutdown. Protocol called for them to hit the ejection seats, as the clock had started. But Wally Schirra knew the rocket had lifted off the pad yet, and didn't do it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 20, 2026 02:10 AM (w6EFb)

308 Sorry I missed you tonight, Debby. Sleep well!

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 02:11 AM (rdVOm)

309 @295 regimes have never cared about that before why would they start now? Stop drinking the trump kool aid.

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at July 20, 2026 02:09 AM (BT3xd)
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Populations do when nothing is left to lose.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 02:12 AM (LgsNJ)

310 There is a Trump kool-aide.
Where can I get some?

Posted by: Reforger at July 20, 2026 02:13 AM (ZRnpd)

311 Hi, Reforger! I don't serve kool-aid, but would be glad to slide a cold Fosters down the bar for ya.

Or, a Long Island Iced Tea.

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 02:15 AM (rdVOm)

312 Try running trump kool aid in your pick up truck instead of $5 dollar a gallon gas. See how well that works out.

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at July 20, 2026 02:15 AM (BT3xd)

313 Funny-- libtards weren't bitching about the price of gas during Oblahblah's or Sponge-brain's reigns of error.

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 02:17 AM (rdVOm)

314 Well, past midnight here. I am off to the rack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2026 02:20 AM (1z8ji)

315 'Night, AOP.

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 02:21 AM (rdVOm)

316 >>@295 regimes have never cared about that before why would they start now? Stop drinking the trump kool aid.

Of course they cared. You just didn't notice for some reason.

Better question is who in Middle East is helping us?

See if you can figure out why?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2026 02:22 AM (viF8m)

317 I find it funny when the kool-aid thing comes up. Do you know how many of the Trump haters from Calfagtardia were actually part of that cult? Pelosi was huge in it. Fucking Jim Jones ruled the bay area in the 70's. It's what the retarded, took to much brown acid latched onto after the flower power faggots bell botom jeans wore through. Still worthless as tits on a boar hog but with a direction to pedal their ten speed bike in. In this case it was good to be slow. Missing those planes to utopia was sort of a life saver. Honestly I wish the rest had went to Guianna too. There would be a lot less idiots like this exodus fucktard and his ilk on the planet.

Posted by: Reforger at July 20, 2026 02:25 AM (ZRnpd)

318 exodus 21:22-25

Interesting. You use Biblical scripture as a screen name but know nothing of context or meaning. You are just a depraved troll vomiting up garbage here. This won't end well for you.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 20, 2026 02:26 AM (sAmhv)

319 Funny-- libtards weren't bitching about the price of gas during Oblahblah's or Sponge-brain's reigns of error.

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 02:17 AM (rdVOm)
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When the Obama and Biden regimes were funding Iran's suicidal mullahs to allow them to arm themselves to the teeth, while openly confessing that their eventual target is an entity they like to call "Big Satan."

"Who is wise? He who foresees the outcome (of present events)." - Babylonian Talmud, Mishnah, Tractate Tamid, 32:1

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 02:27 AM (LgsNJ)

320 Hi JQ. Spent the whole day under the house doing plumbing repair. A fosters would go down real nice right now but sleep is needed. My knee hurts like hell.

Good night all. Except the exodus retard. I hope he/she/it dies in a fire.

Posted by: Reforger at July 20, 2026 02:29 AM (ZRnpd)

321 exodus 21:22-25

Interesting. You use Biblical scripture as a screen name but know nothing of context or meaning. You are just a depraved troll vomiting up garbage here. This won't end well for you.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 20, 2026 02:26 AM (sAmhv)
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Be optimistic. He might lose weight. Worked for Karen Carpenter and Princess Dianna.

Might even restore a hormonal balance, leading to a reduction in brain fog.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 02:30 AM (LgsNJ)

322 Good night all. Except the exodus retard. I hope he/she/it dies in a fire.

Posted by: Reforger at July 20, 2026 02:29 AM (ZRnpd)
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There's a place in Yosemite that I know about.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2026 02:30 AM (LgsNJ)

323 I consider "Hells Bells" to be AC/DC's most metal song. It has the feel. "Highway to Hell" I'd put 2nd.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 20, 2026 02:45 AM (DZ9Lv)

324 298 AOC is starting to get bingo wings. Is she really aging that fast?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 20, 2026 02:07 AM (sYM3s)

AbuelaOC

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 03:03 AM (6wpGE)

325 I'll bet Berserker has a far more sophisticated taxonomy of metal etc. (him being a serious musician and all). I guess I've always had a pretty ecumenical definition of metal. I've always considered AC/DC metal without too much thought. I figured if poofs like Motley Crue are metal, AC/DC surely is.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 03:07 AM (+n72I)

326 325 I'll bet Berserker has a far more sophisticated taxonomy of metal etc. (him being a serious musician and all). I guess I've always had a pretty ecumenical definition of metal. I've always considered AC/DC metal without too much thought. I figured if poofs like Motley Crue are metal, AC/DC surely is.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2026 03:07 AM (+n72I)

There’s a metal spectrum for sure.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:20 AM (4g5V+)

327 Oh, the plaid clothes! For our parish 25th anniversary in the late 70s, families were invited for pictures. My sisters and parents looked fine, but one brother was in a brown leisure suit, and I wore a.blue plaid sportcoat. Hideous! A day that will live in infamy.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 20, 2026 03:22 AM (AADKh)

328 Reality check: you think the Russians, Chinese or DPRK will help Iran? They might WANT to but just like in 1989 they have their own problems.

Besides, the whole mission is to force Iran to behave in terms of international relations. No funding Hamas. No funding Hezbollah. No terror campaigns from Iraq to Argentina.

Oh, and you know the Vienna Convention of 1961? Follow it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:25 AM (4g5V+)

329 Plaid can work.

Look for the pic with Rachel Weisz in a nice snug, tight plaid pencil skirt for a great example.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 20, 2026 03:29 AM (4g5V+)

330 I didn't get much sleep

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2026 03:41 AM (Ia/+0)

331 Sleep? What's that?

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 03:46 AM (rdVOm)

332 I gave up on sleep, for now... Cooking bacon in the oven.

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 03:50 AM (rdVOm)

333 https://m.youtube.com/shorts/v3ICj_xwpgk?ra=m

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 20, 2026 03:52 AM (DZ9Lv)

334 Looking forward to BCT sandwiches! No more lettuce for a while... cheese instead. Plastic-wrapped American cheese food product FTW!

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 03:53 AM (rdVOm)

335 Aww, man... 1976... *sigh*

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 03:57 AM (rdVOm)

336 Plan a BLT tonight, been eating the pack of lettuce I have all last week

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2026 03:59 AM (Ia/+0)

337 plaid ad

Shades of

"Stop! The Love You Save May Be Your Own"

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 04:02 AM (6wpGE)

338 327 Oh, the plaid clothes! For our parish 25th anniversary in the late 70s, families were invited for pictures. My sisters and parents looked fine, but one brother was in a brown leisure suit, and I wore a.blue plaid sportcoat. Hideous! A day that will live in infamy.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 20, 2026 03:22 AM (AADKh)

haha!

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 04:04 AM (6wpGE)

339 Sucks that it get too hot here to grow leaf lettuce after June or so... much better than iceberg.

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 04:23 AM (rdVOm)

340 Mmmm, bacon...

Posted by: JQ at July 20, 2026 04:29 AM (rdVOm)

341 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at July 20, 2026 04:35 AM (6wpGE)

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Gun Thread: Post-Vacation Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Post-Vacation Edition? The week at the beach sure did go by quickly. Made it home yesterday with everyone I left with, so all good. I'll do my best to try thinking about working on my backlog of email this week. Promise!

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 07:00 PM (0N4FZ)

2 -1

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

3 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 07:00 PM (Ia/+0)

4 Not first.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:01 PM (8BaDx)

5 5th?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 07:02 PM (dZE4s)

6 Going to try and hit the range this week. I am now 2 months post cataract surgery from both eyes and they have healed enough for me to learn how to shoot again. I had super cataracts and had to have both eyes scraped before they could do the cataract part. It will be a year next month when I first started the process and I haven't fire a single shot since then.

It is going to be different without corrective lenses.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 07:02 PM (0N4FZ)

7 Not that being first matters.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:02 PM (8BaDx)

8 Looks like Mister Scott is King of the Gun Thread tonight.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:05 PM (kmF5/)

9 Hoping lin-duh will check in with a report on Spawns doings.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 07:07 PM (abScH)

10 Scoobs!
Good news from the Upper Range!
Whole top has been extended and flattened. Rock face on front of the hill.
All new obstacles from which to shoot.
I suspect I’ll give it a try tomorrow.
After mowing.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:08 PM (8BaDx)

11 Evening folks, not much to report, but in my travels last week (which prevented me from enjoying the thread last Sunday) I came upon a Glock 40 Gen 4 in 10mm.

There is a chance that this can come into my possession.

But, I have questions about the legality of the firearm which I do not want to go into detail on this thread.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 07:08 PM (dZE4s)

12 10 After mowing.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:08 PM

Mow faster!!!! Or invest in goats. :-P

You should have pretty nice weather up there, enjoy!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 07:10 PM (dZE4s)

13 Burning a My Father Vegas Cubanas on a breezy comfortable hot summer day.

At this point my reloading backlog resembles that of for Patriot and Standard missiles, but I plan to get to it. Really.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 07:10 PM (DO41q)

14 Life is good when your range is in your backyard !

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 07:10 PM (abScH)

15 Will have range time Tuesday, taking a hockey buddy and his daughter in law, so will likely be mostly assisting/monitoring and not much shooting, but such is the way of evangelism.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 07:13 PM (DO41q)

16 Gonna go see what weasel loaded up for us on video.
BBL

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:14 PM (JK1W1)

17 14 Life is good when your range is in your backyard !

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 07:10 PM

Bah! Who needs a range with fixed targets in their backyard when you could have digging piggies to shoot at?

(Howdy Ben Had!)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 19, 2026 07:15 PM (HlyYF)

18 At some point I hope to familiarize myself with the P7 M8’s distinctive manual of arms and empty some brass with it. Seem to recall seeing “124 grain ammo reco’d for this pistol” in a quick scan of the manual. I use 124s currently in my reloading so that’s a happy coincidence.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 07:17 PM (DO41q)

19 I suspect I’ll give it a try tomorrow.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:08 PM (8BaDx)

May we expect a range report on your blog?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 07:17 PM (l4RKn)

20 Good evening to all the GunHorde and thank you Weasel for the great content. Have a great week everyone!

Posted by: Coelacanth at July 19, 2026 07:18 PM (DJPFk)

21 Eschew unplanned lateral excursions.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 19, 2026 07:18 PM (0sNs1)

22 Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 07:10 PM (DO41q)
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Smoked a bunch of the Brick House Maduros this week! Like a whole box of them!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:18 PM (kmF5/)

23 Pillage Idiot, hi darlin. I know just how lucky I am .
Good time at the rodeo?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 07:19 PM (abScH)

24 It will be a year next month when I first started the process and I haven't fire a single shot since then.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 07:02 PM

1) Focus on fundamentals.
2) Buy ammo.

How'd I do, Weasel-san?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 19, 2026 07:20 PM (0sNs1)

25 Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 19, 2026 07:20 PM (0sNs1)
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3) always seek to impress range babes.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:22 PM (kmF5/)

26 Weasel, this is where you give an acknowledgement to your 'Ette groupies.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 07:26 PM (abScH)

27 I saw that worst-to-best video come up on youTube the other day, and thought, "Ugh. Another guy telling me his high opinion of what is and isn't the bestest."

I did see it's about reliability and not just what he considers kewl. But, how much is reliability at play in modern firearms? Are we talking 99.99% versus 99.999%? Or, are we really talking about moving the ones digit?

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 07:28 PM (kU0PQ)

28 Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 07:26 PM (abScH)
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Of course! Thank you Ben Had!

Dear 'Ette Goupies: I hereby officially acknowledge you!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:28 PM (kmF5/)

29 Not to be confused with “Attack of the 50 Foot Woman”.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 07:30 PM (BHqbG)

30 Burning a My Father Vegas Cubanas on a breezy comfortable hot summer day.

At this point my reloading backlog resembles that of for Patriot and Standard missiles, but I plan to get to it. Really.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 07:10 PM (DO41q)

Did scotch and a well seasoned Opus X.
Great scotch...disappointing cigar. This was my third Opus X in the last few years and they are way over hyped. And over priced.
In my opinion.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 07:30 PM (2WIwB)

31 Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 07:28 PM (kU0PQ)
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Think of it as a conversation starter.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:31 PM (kmF5/)

32 Wait... less than a minute in and he goes from "every carry gun" to "13 carry guns"?! Dude, there's a LOT more than 13 carry guns out there, and I'm not even including SAA and that stuff. Heck, I didn't see any sort of derringer in the pics he flashed up real fast. And, yes, that's a legitimate carry gun for some situations. (And, as far as I know, absolutely reliable, regardless of ammunition.)

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 07:33 PM (kU0PQ)

33 18 At some point I hope to familiarize myself with the P7 M8’s distinctive manual of arms and empty some brass with it. Seem to recall seeing “124 grain ammo reco’d for this pistol” in a quick scan of the manual. I use 124s currently in my reloading so that’s a happy coincidence.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Load to NATO standards for 124gr. which is not quite +p but a bit hotter than domestic ammo. I have noticed most Euro pistols prefer hotter ammo that is typical in the US loadings in calibers like 380 ACP, 9mm, or 32 ACP.

Gas operated systems like certain amount of gas pressure to work from and can be picky outside of their issued ammo as the gas pressure curves may not match what it was designed for. .

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 07:33 PM (E4rtv)

34 23 Pillage Idiot, hi darlin. I know just how lucky I am .
Good time at the rodeo?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 07:19 PM

Had a great time.

Mutton bustin' winner kid rode his sheep all of the way across the arena to the herd of comfort sheep! Loudest cheers of the night.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 19, 2026 07:34 PM (HlyYF)

35 3) always seek to impress range babes.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:22 PM

I am doing Step #3 wrong.

I am always impressed by the shooting skills OF the range babes!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 19, 2026 07:36 PM (HlyYF)

36 3 minutes in and he's STILL telling me why HE is so important to listen to. Instead of giving me any actual information. (His background took about 20 seconds, and was the only info not repeated, and was actually useful to evaluate what he's saying.)

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 07:36 PM (kU0PQ)

37 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 19, 2026 07:36 PM (HlyYF)
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Never EVER underestimate the shooting prowess of a) ladies, and 2) old guys with goofy antiquated gear.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:37 PM (kmF5/)

38 Hi weasel! Thanks for the thread!

Range report.

Had a rough week. Was going to bail on range time. MAE asked me to reconsider, so I put on a happy face and went.

It was so good to see and hug both him and LazyMessenger.

Mark brought a beautiful Turkish shotty. Shotguns make me giggle.

Shot the PPQ and the Ruger Mark IV for a hundred rounds. Cleared my head. Got me focused, even if for just a brief moment in time.

Go to the range. It’s good for you.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 07:38 PM (yEz+x)

39 27 I saw that worst-to-best video come up on youTube the other day, and thought, "Ugh. Another guy telling me his high opinion of what is and isn't the bestest."

I did see it's about reliability and not just what he considers kewl. But, how much is reliability at play in modern firearms? Are we talking 99.99% versus 99.999%? Or, are we really talking about moving the ones digit?
Posted by: GWB
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After a certain amount of money--the question is not reliability but the tradeoff between accuracy and reliability and how picky the pistola is about ammo. Rugers, for example, have a rep for just working and that is with most commonly bought ammo on the shelves but accuracy may not be top drawer. Smiths are kind of in the middle but again, not picky feeders for their mainline products. Colt 1911, at least the older ones, were also known to be reliable with most common ammo outside of wadcutters perhaps.

But go to a match chamber in semi auto pistols and you start to have a firearm that prefers and is picky about reliability on some ammunition in return for superior accuracy. These can be very accurate but unreliable when fed common range fodder of varying types.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 07:38 PM (E4rtv)

40 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by (random gun noises) at July 19, 2026 07:38 PM (sAmhv)

41 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 07:39 PM (BCwQW)

42 Never EVER underestimate the shooting prowess of a) ladies, and 2) old guys with goofy antiquated gear.
Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:37 PM

This is wisdom.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 19, 2026 07:40 PM (Wnv9h)

43 And if you want extreme accuracy at modest cost, get a revolver--an old worn Model 10 Smith revolver that does not have any action problems or timing issues, can shoot to 1 inch groupings at 25 yards in a Ransom rest and still function quite well with whatever range ammo is available. A classic Colt in single action might even top the Smith if the mechanism is in good shape and both of those have actions designed in the 1890's and early 1900's.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 07:41 PM (E4rtv)

44 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 19, 2026 07:40 PM (Wnv9h)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:41 PM (kmF5/)

45 I bought this expensive ass night vision thermal scope thing that records the killings

What rifle should I put it on?

I'm hunting pigs

Posted by: The Ballots at July 19, 2026 07:42 PM (jrgJz)

46 3 minutes in and he's STILL telling me why HE is so important to listen to.

The thesis of approximately 95% of youtube gun videos is "I'm the smartest guy on the internet and I'm certainly smarter than you."

Posted by: Oddbob at July 19, 2026 07:43 PM (vTZFs)

47 What rifle should I put it on?

Posted by: The Ballots at July 19, 2026 07:42 PM (jrgJz)
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One that you know how to shoot?

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:43 PM (kmF5/)

48 10 Good news from the Upper Range!
Whole top has been extended and flattened. Rock face on front of the hill.
All new obstacles from which to shoot.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:08 PM
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Excellent.

Posted by: TRex - range improvement dino at July 19, 2026 07:45 PM (XfIK1)

49 The video must've become more to GWB's liking because we haven't had a minute #4 report.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:46 PM (kmF5/)

50 At some point I hope to familiarize myself with the P7 M8’s distinctive manual of arms and empty some brass with it. Seem to recall seeing “124 grain ammo reco’d for this pistol” in a quick scan of the manual. I use 124s currently in my reloading so that’s a happy coincidence.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 07:17 PM (DO41q)

Do NOT use unjacketed lead bullets in any P7 series pistol. The polygonal rifling will shave lead from the bullets. Those shavings will clog the gas port at the six o'clock position in the chamber. That gas port needs to be open in order for the pistol to operate.

This P7 was tested using NATO spec 9mm ammo. That's what it needs in order to do its best.

Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 07:47 PM (BCwQW)

51 May we expect a range report on your blog?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 07:17 PM (l4RKn)

Yessir! I already took construction pictures, but need to put some guns in for reference.
Much bigger shooting area now. All new barricades. Final ramp up redone so your finicky foreign sports car might make it up.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:47 PM (LMRVO)

52 BTW, IMDB lists that Highway Patrol episode as "Mexican Chase", not "The Chase." Multiple possible reasons why they might not use that title, but I'm guessing it's the dumb one.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 07:48 PM (kU0PQ)

53 3 minutes in and he's STILL telling me why HE is so important to listen to.

just skip all of the intro and go to the first gun thumbnail — for these reasons. It seems that there is a lot of introductory throat clearing in most videos.

What should be part of "The Filter" is shooting enjoyment. Weasel keeps telling us to train on The EDC, not shoot everything in your gun locker.

For 9mm shootability is still the Slovakian Grand Power with the twisting barrel — It has the recoil of a .380

The Walther PDP Compact seems attractive.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 07:49 PM (9Hs2w)

54 BREAKING: JD Vance announces birth of new baby boy

some name being bantered about are AD Vance and AVA Vance

Posted by: Yer Sistahs Tomato at July 19, 2026 07:49 PM (aaVMM)

55 Fun fact from the beach - Gertie must have magnetic paws or something because just about every time I walked her and FSJ she ended up with a sticker burr in one of her feet.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:49 PM (kmF5/)

56 Also, Crawford calls the vehicles being stolen "small cars." LOL.
They'd be considered boats, today.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 07:49 PM (kU0PQ)

57 And if you want extreme accuracy at modest cost, get a revolver--an old worn Model 10 Smith revolver that does not have any action problems or timing issues, can shoot to 1 inch groupings at 25 yards in a Ransom rest and still function quite well with whatever range ammo is available. A classic Colt in single action might even top the Smith if the mechanism is in good shape and both of those have actions designed in the 1890's and early 1900's.
Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 07:41 PM (E4rtv)

True. Shot good groups today with a 1925 vintage Colt Army Special revolver (.38 Special). Picked it up at a gun show last month for $700.

Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 07:50 PM (BCwQW)

58 Can every episode of Highway Patrol just be called "The Chase"?

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at July 19, 2026 07:50 PM (yM17g)

59 46 3 minutes in and he's STILL telling me why HE is so important to listen to.

The thesis of approximately 95% of youtube gun videos is "I'm the smartest guy on the internet and I'm certainly smarter than you."
Posted by: Oddbob

There are a few that I consider watching but I read a lot faster than I can distill from a video and there is a lot of repetition in videos in order to maximize your time on their content because that is how they get paid in part.

Mas Ayoob has recently been putting out shorts and a bit longer videos and he is always worth listening too. There are also some of classic trainers like Louis Awerbuck and others that have passed on but still have relevant information to give. Awerbuck in particular was a master with a shotgun and taught classes in it. Tom Givens (Rangemaster) is another former LEO that still teaches how to use shotguns. He was on a drug warrant team in Memphis to earn his trainer stripes.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 07:52 PM (E4rtv)

60 The video must've become more to GWB's liking because we haven't had a minute #4 report.
Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:46 PM (kmF5/)

LOL. Not necessarily. I put it on hold until I watch Highway Patrol.

And I'm not complaining about your posting it, Weasel. It *is* a conversation starter.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 07:52 PM (kU0PQ)

61 Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 07:52 PM (kU0PQ)
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No worries. I almost didn't use it because it's so long. Plus, the guy might be a retard. Who knows.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 07:54 PM (kmF5/)

62 Range Report! Range Report! Range Report!
Yes, I am excited to report that the DMV MGC managed to all get to the range today. It was soooo quiet, we got to shoot for a long time. Felt a little rusty after not having gone for a while, tried several different weights and brands of ammo til things started to click again. Shot both my Glocks, a 32 Ed brought and a lever action rifle Blaster brought.
Also still on the hunt for a carry gun and the range had a S&W Bodyguard 2 in stock that I could actually handle. This is what SEH carries. It is tiny, 2 1/2 in barrel, 380, and the grip is smaller than my G48. It now comes with a factory installed green dot priced at $599. Unfortunately they don;t have one to rent but I'm considering buying it anyway. The Glock is too big nd heavy and I don;tlike the 43x.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 07:54 PM (kJmSS)

63 True. Shot good groups today with a 1925 vintage Colt Army Special revolver (.38 Special). Picked it up at a gun show last month for $700.
Posted by: Ed L
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If I was limited to a single shot that had to be made with a handgun, I would pick a revolver. The main downside of a revolver to me is capacity and the reloading problem and that gets worse as your fingers and hands no longer are as agile as they once were.

If you can master a double action shooting style on a revolver, you don't need the super light triggers that so many think are essential on semi autos. And a single stage on a reputable revolver make is superior anyway to ANY semi auto including match grade models.

I just ask for a trigger to be smooth and not stack.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 07:56 PM (E4rtv)

64 Good news from the Upper Range!
Whole top has been extended and flattened. Rock face on front of the hill.
All new obstacles from which to shoot.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:08 PM

Niiice.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 19, 2026 07:56 PM (Wnv9h)

65 Yessir! I already took construction pictures, but need to put some guns in for reference.
Much bigger shooting area now. All new barricades. Final ramp up redone so your finicky foreign sports car might make it up.
Posted by: RI Red
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Bleachers for the crowds?

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 07:57 PM (E4rtv)

66 There are a few that I consider watching but I read a lot faster than I can distill from a video and there is a lot of repetition in videos in order to maximize your time on their content because that is how they get paid in part.

Use Gemini to transcript the video then distill into Structured Summary or, better yet, into Knowledge Extraction when it ignores most of the original working focuses on information.

Basic transcript cleanup will remove "Hey guys, welcome back the channel..." sponsor messages, repeated explanations, digressions and anecdotes, excessive self-promotion and long pauses.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 07:58 PM (/TiS1)

67 RMBS, come on up!

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:58 PM (30Gj0)

68 Much bigger shooting area now. All new barricades. Final ramp up redone so your finicky foreign sports car might make it up.
Posted by: RI Red

It's a trap!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 19, 2026 07:59 PM (Wnv9h)

69 RMBS, come on up!
Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 07:58 PM

I'm a bit jammed up on weekends until early September, but I might be able to make it up some Saturday after that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 19, 2026 08:02 PM (Wnv9h)

70 I can only echo what Nurse said. Cooped up with this crazy weather. Getting out to the range to meet up with friends, hugs, dinner at the Roadhouse. Can't help but feel better.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 08:03 PM (kJmSS)

71 Good for you Dharon!

But. I would be hesitant about buying a gun I’ve never shot.

After shooting .45 for the last several
Visits, I worked the PPQ yesterday. Seemed like popcorn, it was so light.

Gotta say though, I shoot 1911s pretty ok.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 08:03 PM (szsmH)

72 *SHARON*
jmotherfuckinghampsterfuckers.
Solly.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 08:04 PM (szsmH)

73 Gotta say though, I shoot 1911s pretty ok.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 08:03 PM

Mmmm...1911.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 19, 2026 08:05 PM (Wnv9h)

74 Thanks Ed L and (I think) whig under a sock name for comments re P7 ammo. Assume the NATO load pressure is about proper cycling of the pistol and not safety.

Haven’t used lead in 9mm for a long time so no issue there.

Actually have a box or 3 of NATO 9mm I will dig out to try alongside my reloads. This pistol will likely not be shot a lot, more of a curiosity I got for free. And I haven’t done even basic due diligence on the reloading side for it, unusual for me.

But will do so before shooting it much.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 08:06 PM (DO41q)

75 And... lady bad guy shoots hir first round... into the ceiling of the shed in which they're holed up.

The actress might have thought she was shooting up the hill, but she gonna hit the roof with that angle when pulling the trigger.

Fundamentals, people!

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 08:07 PM (kU0PQ)

76 And... not a single reload in evidence.

Maybe they were all carrying an extra gun. For a "Mexican reload", you know.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 08:09 PM (kU0PQ)

77 Much bigger shooting area now. All new barricades. Final ramp up redone so your finicky foreign sports car might make it up.
Posted by: RI Red
*******
Watch whose sports car you are calling finicky. My car did quite well in your mountainous terrain.
Question: I understand what you mow in the lower ranges, what do you mow in the upper one?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 19, 2026 08:10 PM (XfIK1)

78 Sharon,

I picked up a Bodyguard 2.0 for my youngest daughter.

It shoots pretty sweet to my (unrefined) standards.

If you don't buy an EDC before TXMoMe, I can bring it down and you can shoot it all you want.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 19, 2026 08:10 PM (HlyYF)

79 Also, William Boyett looked like he'd actually shot a revolver before in the shootout scene. He handled the pistol well, absorbed the recoil and brought his gun back onto target efficiently. Actual good pistol work - or at least good enough to look like it.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 08:12 PM (kU0PQ)

80 BRB, dinner bell ringing.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 19, 2026 08:13 PM (HlyYF)

81 One of the things I appreciate about Highway Patrol is nobody shoots holding their gun sideways.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 08:13 PM (kmF5/)

82 I love shooting my 1911 and Glocks but they are impractical for tiny me to carry. Have tried several other models including the 43xwhich is the carry model for the G48. Just nothing has clicked. I really like having a sight and that usually pushes the price over $1000.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 08:13 PM (kJmSS)

83 Diogenes haven’t yet had an OpusX, but generally not interested in the really pricey sticks. A wealthy friend handed me some kind of Padron limited edition at a party, which i stupidly smoked there - not the way to enjoy a premium item. $50/stick. Was good but should’ve pocketed it for later.

Weasel those Brick House maduros are great. Box-worthy for sure. Chanced upon some discounted boxes of Patel Number 6 and la Palina No. 4 recently. The latter is an everyday item but dang they’re good. Should review them.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 08:16 PM (DO41q)

84 Gotta say though, I shoot 1911s pretty ok.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 08:03 PM

Although I'm disagreeing with CBD on this, I rate that statement as true.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 19, 2026 08:17 PM (0sNs1)

85 Weasel those Brick House maduros are great. Box-worthy for sure. Chanced upon some discounted boxes of Patel Number 6 and la Palina No. 4 recently. The latter is an everyday item but dang they’re good. Should review them.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 08:16 PM (DO41q)
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I smoked them pretty regularly some time ago and had sort of forgotten about them. Glad I rediscovered them!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 08:19 PM (kmF5/)

86 PI, got to handle it today. The one in stock did not have an optic but it felt good in my hand. It was very light so a little worried about recoil but having the opportunity to shoot a lot of different guns due to Ed's and Blaster"s generosity, I figure I could work out any issue by practicing fundamentals. The VA gun shows have all been canceled so far which makes it harder to view a lot of different options.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 08:21 PM (kJmSS)

87 OK, 7 minutes in and he's started talking about guns.

First, he told us he's talking ONLY about reliability. Then his first reviewed handgun is a revolver (only one on the list) and it's a 5-shot. Which puts it at the worst possible position on the list. He says it's utterly reliable but it's just not enough rounds. So, how is that only about reliability? If it's utterly reliable, shouldn't it be at the top of the list?

Then, there's the pics.... I've caught several that look 'sketch', as my son would say. There are times he's talking about one gun and showing another gun entirely. It's especially obvious when he's showing a GI 1911 while talking about the Kimber Micro, and the price on the .45 isn't even close to the price he's mentioning on the Kimber. (Then there's the pic of the envelope on the scale when talking about the weight of the revolver. Eesh.)

He also mentioned match barrels. Ummm, we've talked here several times about NOT using match barrels on a carry weapon because of finickiness. (Yes, that's a word - I just made it one.) Seems a thumb on the scale as far as his judging.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 08:22 PM (kU0PQ)

88 Question: I understand what you mow in the lower ranges, what do you mow in the upper one?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 19, 2026 08:10 PM (XfIK1)

Well, it was just the small area in front of the tables. But we are seeding a lot of area now. I’ll have pix.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 08:24 PM (30Gj0)

89 Do you know what to look for in a used revolver?"

Well, the museum is on Waples Mill Road...

*ducks

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:24 PM (XuXeR)

90 Well, the museum is on Waples Mill Road...

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:24 PM (XuXeR)
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Would you believe I've lived in NoVA most of my life and never been to the museum?

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 08:26 PM (kmF5/)

91 Another couple of YouTube videos that might be worth a look are 1) 9 Hole Reviews co-host Henry Chan discusses why he (as a former US Army Ordnance Corps Captain) thinks the new M7 rifle program is a failure and what can be salvaged from it, and 2) Chris Bartucchi from Small Arms Solutions discusses his picks for the best AR-15 pattern manufacturers by price tier and purpose. The first runs about 20 minutes, the second runs about 30 minutes.

Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 08:26 PM (BCwQW)

92 Would you believe I've lived in NoVA most of my life and never been to the museum"

I am dissapoint...

(Used to live nearby...)

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:29 PM (XuXeR)

93 11:00
Taurus G3c. I'll agree I have not had ANY problems with my 5yo (or so) <$250 G3c feeding or extracting. So why's it at #9 and not higher? It has a mushy trigger. Huh, I haven't noticed an issue - but I'm probably not good enough to tell the difference.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 08:30 PM (kU0PQ)

94 I have put two rounds through my .22 varmint rifle since I cleaned it last week.

If I'm lucky I will come across another ground squirrel this evening, and put a third round through.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 19, 2026 08:31 PM (9C1ml)

95 Speaking of cigars, I need to pick one to give to my cardiologist tomorrow.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 08:32 PM (kmF5/)

96 two rounds through my .22 varmint rifle "

Same. If by "2" we mean "boxes".
The 10/22 CF is absolutely fantastic...

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:33 PM (XuXeR)

97 I am dissapoint...

(Used to live nearby...)
Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:29 PM (XuXeR)
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I know! I need to get out there and also go see the Udvar-Hazy facility collection again.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 08:33 PM (kmF5/)

98 I like your cardiologist, Weasel. Even though I don't know him and fortunately don't have/need one. My orthopedist (one part replacement) showed potential last time I saw him, on vaccines and general medical science, not cigars.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 08:36 PM (U/Byj)

99 Is anyone else watching the reliability video?

I'd like to know if anyone else thinks this is AI-produced?

The voice is weirdly lacking in ... natural rhythm?
All of the mass of quick cut pics that do NOT show what he is actually talking about.
And I'm getting discontinuity between the voice and his lips/face at times.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 08:37 PM (kU0PQ)

100 Good videos, weasel.
Yes, the G 19 is the GOAT. (Because I own one).
Also, learning more about revolvers. Thx.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 08:37 PM (30Gj0)

101 Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 08:36 PM (U/Byj)
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He's been keeping me alive for about 25 or 30 years and we're pals at this point, though that wasn't always the case. At first he was all stuffy and serious and grumpy and overly-professional, and I decided it was my mission in life to crack the crusty outer-shell. Took some time but I did it!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 08:40 PM (kmF5/)

102 I'd like to know if anyone else thinks this is AI-produced?"

Or at least AI edited... the first few minutes seem a bit...off

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:43 PM (XuXeR)

103 Also, learning more about revolvers. Thx.
Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 08:37 PM (30Gj0)
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You can maybe tell I'm a big revolver fan. Probably from watching too much TV as a yoot.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 08:44 PM (kmF5/)

104 Guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2026 08:44 PM (xcxpd)

105 MARK!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 08:47 PM (yEz+x)

106 GWB, if reliability is the be all and end all for a carry weapon, wouldn't that make the H&K Mark 23 the ultimate carry weapon? The Mark 23 survived a 30k plus round test regimen that included burying the pistol in sand, dunking it in salt water for 72 hours before firing, heating it to 140 degrees F, freezing it to -40 degrees F, rough handling, shooting unlubricated, and more. I don't any other pistol has been subjected to the level of testing that the Mark 23 went through. OK, the Mark 23 isn't exactly the best choice for CCW. But I think H&K is the only manufacturer that subjected its CCW handgun (CC9) to the full set of NATO standard testing for service handguns before putting it on the market. If anyone else has done that, I haven't heard of it.

Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 08:47 PM (BCwQW)

107 Did get to the range. It's Summer, so I've switched my EDC to my church gun, a PSA Micro Dagger.

Very light, accurate, 15 round capacity with the right magazines...but I'll get back to that.

The trigger press is not the best, I won't lie, I have a bad habit of hitting low left with the tool. But it's something I can train around and that's what I do every Saturday. Draw+Fire drills just in case. It does have an optic mount, unlike Glock, without plates even.

But its not perfect.

But I had a catastrophic failure of one magazine. Worse, it's one of the very few 15 round mags I bought before WA locked down the joy of gun ownership. So I am hoping PSA will repair/replace it. Because I can't just buy another PSA magazine...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2026 08:47 PM (xcxpd)

108 105 MARK!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 08:47 PM (yEz+x)

Hullo! Did you enjoy the shotgun at the range?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2026 08:48 PM (xcxpd)

109 Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 08:47 PM (BCwQW)

Jah, good gun. But I don't know many people who carry it.

Reliability is king. But you have to carry it every day.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2026 08:49 PM (xcxpd)

110 Reliability is king. But you have to carry it every day.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2026 08:49 PM (xcxpd)

Agree - there's a reason the Mark 23 is referred to as a "crew served handgun." But H&K did subject the CC9 to the full round of NATO standard testing for service pistols before releasing it to the US market. I'm not sure anyone else has done anything similar.

Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 08:55 PM (BCwQW)

111 Posted by: rhomboid
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Yep. Me under an old sock for a music thread that my browser remembered and I forgot.

Browning's tilting barrel design can be adapted to fit a wider range of ammo versus a gas operated semi automatic as you get mechanical operation using recoil versus one using gas pressure to drive the slide. You MIGHT be able to do some jiggery pokery with altering recoil springs on the pistol (Wolff gunsprings sells recoil tuning kits for a lot of semi automatics (and often the mfg themselves sell rebadged Wolff springs as parts).

But easier to just find a load that duplicates the relative velocity in the same length barrel of a std. NATO round. Those are reported on the ammo boxes and usually repeated in online sellers of ammo somewhere under details.

This is Winchester's ball range ammo sold as 124gr NATO in 9mm, 1,200 fps muzzle velocity
358 ft.-lb. muzzle energy. Remington's non NATO 9mm@124 gr is Muzzle Velocity 1110 fps
Muzzle Energy 339 ft lbs. So at least split the difference at 1150 fps and about 345 ft lbs. or higher.

You may or may not also find certain short stubby bullet profiles may or may not work like Hornady's XTP.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 08:59 PM (E4rtv)

112 jmotherfuckinghampsterfuckers.
Solly.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 08:04 PM (szsmH)

LOL. I might have to replace my "Samuel-L-Jackson!" with that!

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 08:59 PM (kU0PQ)

113 Agree - there's a reason the Mark 23 is referred to as a "crew served handgun." But H&K did subject the CC9 to the full round of NATO standard testing for service pistols before releasing it to the US market. I'm not sure anyone else has done anything similar.
Posted by: Ed L
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Beretta with its PX4 Storm---over 100k round military tests. Downside, DA/SA for most variants and no swappable back straps. But Ernie Langston used that as a platform to make an upgraded version to sell.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:01 PM (E4rtv)

114 But I had a catastrophic failure of one magazine. Worse, it's one of the very few 15 round mags I bought before WA locked down the joy of gun ownership. So I am hoping PSA will repair/replace it. Because I can't just buy another PSA magazine...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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That is pretty rare--spring, follower, base, or was it the shell of the mag. The first two are easy repairs--PSA should have a follower or base as a part and my guess is Wolff has the mag spring to purchase. You might also try Ebay for parts as there are some people there with 3d printers that are printing quite a few mag and other parts for firearms.

If it was the feed lips, then that is a pain because while Brownell's sells (or sold) a tool to fix them, it is hit or miss whether it actually does it.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:05 PM (E4rtv)

115 Here is Beretta's commentary on the PX4 Storm.
Ultra-Durable, Ultra-Safe for Concealed Carry and Home Defense

Designed to meet the most stringent military standards of durability, the PX4 has been reported to fire well over 150,000 rounds with zero part breakages. Besides the essential simplicity of its design (fewer parts=fewer and more solid components bearing stress), the proprietary steel we use for this pistol was developed to be impossibly tough. Its safety system is also ultra-reliable, giving you automatic firing pin block as well as a flip-up ambidextous manual safety for extra peace of mind. All this is why a growing number of demanding government agencies and organizations are choosing it and using it in every environment imaginable--the PX4 just keeps delivering.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:06 PM (E4rtv)

116 Winding down. Got early morning appointment with mower, then rifles!
Thx, weasel!

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2026 09:08 PM (LMRVO)

117 Beretta with its PX4 Storm---over 100k round military tests. Downside, DA/SA for most variants and no swappable back straps. But Ernie Langston used that as a platform to make an upgraded version to sell.
Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:01 PM (E4rtv)

I did not know that.

Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 09:08 PM (BCwQW)

118 Adios, Red. Have fun!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 09:11 PM (kmF5/)

119 I did not know that.
Posted by: Ed L

Beretta was aiming the PX4 as a polymer replacement for the older 92 model and aimed it specifically at law enforcement and military. It was also submitted for one of the Pentagon's JSP testing regimens.

It uses a rather unique rotating barrel system that reduces felt recoil as well. The 40 S&W feels like a 9mm in recoil for example. This is only for the service size or the compact, not the subcompact version which uses a tilting barrel because of size.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:13 PM (E4rtv)

120 So, there is a sad excess of space in the downstairs gun locker... and an opportunity for a weasel...er, Kuna to occupy said space. Any experiences with one?

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 09:14 PM (XuXeR)

121 'Bout time for me to punch out for the night.

Thanks for another great Gub Thread, Weasel!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 19, 2026 09:15 PM (Wnv9h)

122 So...I bought a "tactical" bolt handle for my Savage target gun, because the bolt is just a bit stiff, and a longer handle will make it easier. And "tactical," because that makes it more accurate. Duh!

The USPS promptly lost it, the company had it insured, sent me another one with a minimum of effort (great company!), and four months later the original arrives!

I figure it will take about 100,000 rounds to wear out the bolt handle, so what the hell am I going to do with an extra one? The company said, "just keep it."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 09:15 PM (l4RKn)

123 I picked up a Chinese-made clone of the Remington 870 pump shotgun, in "riot gun" configuration. I paid $140 before state sales tax.

After a few rounds of skeet, I pulled it from its shipping box, checked that the bore was not obstructed, and then ran five wimpy target loads and five rounds of buckshot through it. It worked okay, with the minor hiccups I expected from a new, un-cleaned, un-lubed pump gun.

I didn't shoot it more, as it was ungodly hot and I needed to get home.

Per month old news on the internet, RemArms, the current owner of the firearms line, is having financial problems with its new plant in Georgia. It may be a while before new, genuine Remington 870s are available.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2026 09:16 PM (NeM+a)

124 Mark!

You know shottys make me giggle.

My shoulder is a little tender though….

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 09:17 PM (OIyEB)

125 decided it was my mission in life to crack the crusty outer-shell. Took some time but I did it!
Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 08:40 PM (kmF5/)

It didn't involve using the butt of a revolver, did it? Like in the Highway Patrol stories?

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 09:17 PM (kU0PQ)

126 OK, 9:19 thank you time.

Thank you!

I appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 09:19 PM (kmF5/)

127 Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 09:17 PM (kU0PQ)
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Nah. Just persistence!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 09:19 PM (kmF5/)

128 Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:13 PM (E4rtv)

Interesting design. It doesn't seem to have done well in the US military's JSP competition that produced the M17/M18. I don't think it snagged any other military contracts.

Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 09:21 PM (BCwQW)

129 126 OK, 9:19 thank you time.

Thank you!

I appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel

Being dealing with household issues today but appreciate you for having us in your virtual parlor and letting us sit around on the cracker and pickle barrels.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:21 PM (E4rtv)

130 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at July 19, 2026 09:22 PM (BCwQW)

131 My shoulder is a little tender though….

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 09:17 PM (OIyEB)

Get a semi-auto. Much more gentle. Sort of like 9mm!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 09:22 PM (l4RKn)

132 ROFLMAO!!!

At about 19 minutes in, he's talking about the CZ P10. And among the pics he flashes on the screen is one with the side sights! LOL. Well, at least the front sight is on the side of the slide. The rear sight is in its proper place. So... bad meme grab, or AI generated?

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 09:23 PM (kU0PQ)

133 I couldn't wait so I posted this in last night's ONT, but this is where it belongs:

Took my son shooting at the Beaver Dam Rock Pit Saturday morning. I like to get there early so it's not crowded. I've shot rarely for years, but now we're spending more time at it. We still have tons to learn. Improving is fun.

I made a complicated target stand last time. I was proud of it, but it was over-engineered.This time I just brought thin 2'x3' plywood sheets and made some 10-degree cuts halfway through bits of 2x4, and that was simpler, lighter, faster, and more sturdy.

We managed to hit the plywood at 150 yards, although the paper target was nearly unscathed.

We need a better way to get feedback. I think I'll get some of those reactive targets, and maybe a spotting scope. The rifle has a 9x scope, and I have a pair of small 6x binoculars. Actually I just remembered I have some big honking 15x astronomy binoculars. Maybe those would help? But they weigh a ton and my tripod is broken.

(continued . . .)

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 09:23 PM (rcENI)

134 (. . . continued) Usually we just shoot at fixed targets and leave the shotgun at home, but I bought a plastic clay pigeon flinger, and we went through a whole box of clay pigeons (and about 150 shells). That was super fun. The shotgun magazine holds 5 shells, and I got one 5-out-of-5, and my son got a few.

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 09:23 PM (rcENI)

135 I got one 5-out-of-5, and my son got a few.

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 09:23 PM (rcENI)

Huzzah!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 09:25 PM (l4RKn)

136 CBD!

We should go and shoot clays together sometime!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 09:25 PM (runob)

137 Ed L I seem to recall that some individual had done a 50K round torture test on the XD9, back before I bought mine. Included submerging, burying, etc. No issues.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 09:26 PM (U/Byj)

138 Mark has an XD 9 I’ve shot before.

Nifty. Easy gun to make you look good.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 09:27 PM (runob)

139 Ed L,
AI summary,
United States: The Px4 .45 ACP Special Duty variant was developed to meet U.S. Special Forces Command (SOCOM) requirements for the Joint Combat Pistol program, featuring a dark earth frame, extended threaded barrel, and enhanced weather resistance.

Other Nations: The pistol has been adopted by military or paramilitary forces in Argentina (Buenos Aires Metropolitan Police), Armenia, Chile (Special Forces), India (Para Special Forces), Italy (NOCS, Guardia di Finanza), Libya (pre-war order), Malaysia (Royal Malaysia Police), and Portugal (Polícia de Segurança Pública).
Border Services: The Canada Border Services Agency utilizes the Px4 Storm.

Major issue with the PX4 was that it used DA/SA which is less popular with police agencies than the Glock safe action, it did not have modular back plates, and due to the rotating barrel, is a bit heavier (which helps in felt recoil) and blocky around the slide. Resembles the Ruger P series.

It also is hammer fired when all its competitors were switching to striker fired.

One interesting thing is you can easily switch between tradition DA/SA to a decocking only version or they also made a rarer DAO only handgun.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:27 PM (E4rtv)

140 Thanks, Weasel. Something to focus on and critique is fun. See y'all 'round the funny farm.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 09:29 PM (kU0PQ)

141 Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 09:23 PM (rcENI)

Nice. Wish I had somewhere to do that sort of thing.

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 09:31 PM (kU0PQ)

142 Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:21 PM (E4rtv)
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Thanks for being here, whig!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 09:31 PM (kmF5/)

143 137 Ed L I seem to recall that some individual had done a 50K round torture test on the XD9, back before I bought mine. Included submerging, burying, etc. No issues.
Posted by: rhomboid

I have XD's in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. The 45 ACP version has the rare thumb safety varient which is in the same place as a Browning High Power. And it is exceedingly accurate in 45. One that is comparable is the P90 Ruger which is also accurate.

One of the rare manufacturers that has kept the original XD line in operation in part because it is on the California list and they keep making newer variants of the original without changing the interior so it is the same pistol with different options--the Mod 3 and 4 have a removable plate for Red Dots, the Mod 2 had an improved grip, but all use the same mags and basic system.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:32 PM (E4rtv)

144 See ya Ed L and GWB! Have a good week!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 09:32 PM (kmF5/)

145 XD9 was first gun I bought, still my only 9mm (except for the somewhat exotic P7 discussed above). Only issues in 10 years were a broken recoil stop pin (easily self-replaced, and free) several 10Ks rounds in, and a single mysterious reload case resizing error that jammed it up (classic solution of greater force eventually cleared it). So, very reliable. I know Mark loves his. I have the 5-in barrel version, vs. 4-in.

I've never fired or even handled the evolution of the line, such as the XDS or XDM, but have never heard a discouraging word about them either.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 09:32 PM (U/Byj)

146 Oh, I did get to the #1 on his list: Glock 19 V.

It's ok if you can get over the audio weirdness, the goofy pics. And he mentions (wait for it, Weasel...) that TRAINING makes a bigger difference than any of the issues separating #13 from #1!

Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 09:34 PM (kU0PQ)

147 whig I've come *this* close to picking up a used XD45 in the past (they were frequently for sale here, never expensive). Some day I probably still will.

Originally picked the XD over the Glock because the grip angle suited me better. But a great, simple, reliable gun.

Haven't kept track, think the idiotic CA "roster" is finally (again) in legal jeopardy, which would make the whole line available here. But not too wound up about that aspect. The original XD line suits me just fine (and I don't use optics so that whole topic is moot).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 09:35 PM (U/Byj)

148 141 Nice. Wish I had somewhere to do that sort of thing.

This is the only place around here (Cedar Mill Oregon) I know, other than some expensive and not-as-close gun clubs.

I still haven't zero'ed the Mossberg Patriot 30-06 (the only gun with a scope). I've bore-sighted it indoors. The Rock Pit is probably the place to do it, although there is an elevation drop. I just learned how to measure distance using the MOA scope, so next time I'll try to set up a target at 100 yards (and some closer ones), but I don't know how to compensate for the drop.

To hit anything there with that gun I have to aim low about two ticks.

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 09:37 PM (rcENI)

149 For those keeping score at home, so far tonight, based on public information, the US strikes in Iran have followed the existing pattern (coastal, maritime-related targets). With one exception: apparent strikes near Tabriz. We'll see if those reports are accurate. And of course the rumint continues to pour in about preparations - at least - seeming to happen for much more extensive festivities.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 09:39 PM (U/Byj)

150 Speaking of the Patriot, when I cycle the bolt, it doesn't always catch a new round. It ejects fine, but no new rounds gets chambered. I *think* that cycling it slowly works better. Is that something anyone here knows about?

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 09:41 PM (rcENI)

151 We should go and shoot clays together sometime!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 09:25 PM (runob)

I'm in!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 09:43 PM (l4RKn)

152 And of course the rumint continues to pour in about preparations - at least - seeming to happen for much more extensive festivities.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 09:39 PM (U/Byj)

Lots of tanker movement to Israel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 09:43 PM (l4RKn)

153 150 Speaking of the Patriot, when I cycle the bolt, it doesn't always catch a new round. It ejects fine, but no new rounds gets chambered. I *think* that cycling it slowly works better. Is that something anyone here knows about?
Posted by: frammish

One of the known issues with push feed rifles. There is a reason that a lot of old timey big game hunters used Mausers or pre 1964 Winchester Model 70's because the extractor claw grabs onto the round to put it into the chamber and then extract it. That is controlled feed.

So yes, a push feed rifle will feed more reliably if you work the bolt slower--a controlled feed doesn't care as it derived from a military action that allowed it to be treated rudely.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:44 PM (E4rtv)

154 Thanks for your fine efforts Weasel, I enjoy the Gun Thread.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 09:45 PM (NnhvP)

155 Oh the 7yo wants to play Scythe. Gotta go!

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 09:45 PM (rcENI)

156 Posted by: frammish
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Occasionally it can also be an issue with mag lips and the strength of the mag spring. Sometimes moving to a stronger mag spring (see Wolff springs aka gunsprings dot com) if they have one for your model. Usually +5 or +10 percent stronger springs are available.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:45 PM (E4rtv)

157 Good evening gun threaders and all the ships at sea

Posted by: blaster at July 19, 2026 09:47 PM (NlEaG)

158 Thank you Horde and thank you Weasel!

Posted by: TRex - aerial refueling dino at July 19, 2026 09:50 PM (XfIK1)

159 blaster!

Hope your and Sra are well.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 09:50 PM (4FeTN)

160 151 We should go and shoot clays together sometime!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 09:25 PM (runob)

I'm in!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 09:43 PM (l4RKn)

I haven’t done skeet shooting in a long time.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 09:50 PM (4g5V+)

161 147 whig I've come *this* close to picking up a used XD45 in the past (they were frequently for sale here, never expensive). Some day I probably still will.

Originally picked the XD over the Glock because the grip angle suited me better. But a great, simple, reliable gun.

Haven't kept track, think the idiotic CA "roster" is finally (again) in legal jeopardy, which would make the whole line available here. But not too wound up about that aspect. The original XD line suits me just fine (and I don't use optics so that whole topic is moot).
Posted by: rhomboid

Get the service model and I think they also make a 5 inch longslide for it called the Tactical model. I have a 5 inch longslide for the XD-40 and it makes a difference in taming the sudden recoil impulse of the 440 S&W. Not as much of an issue with 45 ACP as it is a long impulse but it does put the XD-45 on par with a 1911 with a 5 inch barrel.

They also make a relatively rare XDS in 45 ACP WITH a 4 inch barrel. So you get a short concealable grip holding about six rounds with a service length slide.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:51 PM (E4rtv)

162 I'm late been working on a cursed car.

We got to shoot today. Cowboy guns. Shot the SAA with 9mm. Aside from the terrible sights not bad.

And the lever gun in 357. Super fun to shoot.

Green dot made it even more funner.

Posted by: blaster at July 19, 2026 09:53 PM (NlEaG)

163 And he mentions (wait for it, Weasel...) that TRAINING makes a bigger difference than any of the issues separating #13 from #1!
Posted by: GWB at July 19, 2026 09:34 PM (kU0PQ)
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So not totally retarded!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 09:54 PM (kmF5/)

164 I've never fired or even handled the evolution of the line, such as the XDS or XDM, but have never heard a discouraging word about them either.
Posted by: rhomboid

Springfield Ordinance's owner did a Bill Ruger in the 00's where he was concerned about Illinois banning some of his firearms, from memory, it might have been the M1A they sell or something else.

Anyway, his lobbyists tried to put into the bill some language allowing Springfield's rifles to be sold but the nasty black gun could be banned. That hurt Springfield's rep and probably sales of its other firearms by people with long memories.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:55 PM (E4rtv)

165 Nite TRex and AZ Deplorable!

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2026 09:55 PM (kmF5/)

166 And the lever gun in 357. Super fun to shoot.

Posted by: blaster at July 19, 2026 09:53 PM (NlEaG)

That is a glaring hole in my gun safe.

What do you have?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 09:56 PM (l4RKn)

167 whig I have the 5-in XD9. It's great.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 09:57 PM (U/Byj)

168 Wish everyone a pleasant evening.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:57 PM (E4rtv)

169 Thanks Weasel as always. I hope to have a see-gar review into you this week (sounds like an Iran war peace deal - we're *this* close!).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 09:58 PM (U/Byj)

170 167 whig I have the 5-in XD9. It's great.
Posted by: rhomboid

I agree. I also like 5 inch barrels in revolvers having two of them--a Colt New Service and a Smith pre model 15.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:58 PM (E4rtv)

171 So adieu again like an opera singer making a prolonged exit.

Posted by: whig at July 19, 2026 09:58 PM (E4rtv)

172 CBD it's after 10 but I have a G-Force 357 tactical.

Posted by: blaster at July 19, 2026 10:01 PM (NlEaG)

173 I have a G-Force 357 tactical.

Posted by: blaster at July 19, 2026 10:01 PM (NlEaG)

Sigh...I am a traditionalist when it comes to lever guns.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 10:02 PM (l4RKn)

174 I have a G-Force 357 tactical.

Posted by: blaster at July 19, 2026 10:01 PM (NlEaG)

Sigh...I am a traditionalist when it comes to lever guns.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
*********
Can you help a rookie know what that means?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 19, 2026 10:27 PM (XfIK1)

175 Late getting to the Gun Thread tonight. Picked up a new S&W M&P 2.0 9mm Compact Carry Comp. I have been to the range twice in the past couple of weeks. I like it - it is a fun gun to shoot. I am also using Ai (ChatGPT) to analyze my targets after the range and provide drills and to better my accuracy. It is working - slowly. I have more to overcome from old eyes and being left handed with right eye dominance. My have to look into a red dot to help with the aiming.

Posted by: Lurking in Garland at July 19, 2026 10:34 PM (j9Bn5)

176 The ranking video is definitely AI.
The cadence, the repeats, the propaganda...

Posted by: White Punk at July 20, 2026 07:29 AM (mT6NQ)

Food Thread: Bacon And Beans Together Again!

It is glaringly obvious that we do not discuss bacon nearly enough on these august pages. And not just the luscious, unctuous, rich, smoky deliciousness of the best part of the pig! No, we should also chat about cooking it!

All of you microwave aficionados may now go to another room...the grownups are talking.

My preferred technique is to start the bacon (thick-cut if possible) in a cold oven set to 375 degrees convection. Then after about 15 minutes, take them out and flip the strips. Another 10-15 minutes should do nicely for very crispy, which was what I was shooting for today!

Cleaning the pan is another issue for another day.

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This is a tough one.

Oh...wait...no it isn't

Cyclospora Outbreak Linked to Iceberg Lettuce in 5 States

On July 17, 2026, Taylor Farms initiated a recall of all iceberg lettuce sourced from central Mexico. The recall includes iceberg lettuce sold at retail stores and restaurants. It also includes other recalled products distributed to food service customers. A complete list of those products is included in the recall notice.

Maybe buying produce from 3rd World sh*tholes isn't such a good idea. We already import 3rd world workers to pick and process the stuff in our fields...why do we also have to buy their (literal) sh*t?

I cannot wait for the time when robotic picking and processing decreases the number of primitives handling our food, and an administration that sees domestic food production as a national security imperative. Do I care whether we overspend on government support for farmers? No, I do not. We already piss away billions of dollars on stupid price supports and all sorts of other wasteful programs. Maybe subsidizing domestic production is a good idea!

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This is from commenter and pellet grill maven "Gunslinger."

Those ribs look great, and they were the impetus for my little chat last week with the butcher shop supervisor at my go-to market. He will save me a couple of uncut beef rib racks the next time they go on sale! Yippee!

But on to Gunslinger's cook!

That’s a large cookie sheet, or jelly roll pan, as my Mom would pedantically call it. Mustard for the binder, and kosher salt, garlic salt, and coarse-ground pepper is all.
Started the cook about 4pm at 235 degrees. Let it cook until 7, then spritzed it with beef broth every hour until I hit the sack at 10.
Got up at 5:30, put the temp probe in, and started spritzing it again each hour. It was 174 degrees when I started with the probe. Monitored it constantly. There were many temp stalls all throughout the day. 2 degree rises in 2 or 3 hours. These stalls are normal, but sheesh!
It got to be 5:30 Sunday evening, but only 198 degrees internal temp, but had to eat! Work night and all…
It turned out wonderfully, with no indication that it should have continued to 205 degrees, my ideal internal temp.

They look spectacular. I think beef ribs, when done well, are at the top of the beef pyramid. Well, maybe they share the top with a couple of other cuts, but you get the point!

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Sourdough Discard Crackers for the win! Yup, they are tasty, and easy, and very forgiving. The only problem is that I have modified my sourdough bread process so that I no longer have discard. When I make crackers I have to make discard first. So it isn't really "discard," it's more like "excard?" Or maybe I will stay in my lane and avoid creating new words.

Anyway, they are fun to make, fun to eat, and are strangely satisfying to put out for guests. "Why yes, those are homemade crackers!"

Pro tip: Use lots of butter!

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Here's another look at Cast Iron pans.

[Hat Tip: Kathy]

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As much as I love British cooking, and I think it is very, very, underrated, sometimes I see recipes on British cooking websites and I scratch my head and think, "Guys, are you serious? Do you know your reputation?"

Here's one of them. It's not that it sounds horrible; it's that it is more in tune with a college junior in his first apartment that he shares with three friends. Yes, it is food. Yes, it is filling. But do you really need to publicize it?
Sausage and baked bean casserole
Hell, they even use canned baked beans!

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[Hat Tip: dhmosquito]
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The garlic is harvested! And it looks...well...sigh. Send all of your excellent home-grown garlic to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!

Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM

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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 04:01 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Ambrosia

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 04:01 PM (NnhvP)

3 It's... wait for it....

Martini Time 🍸

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 04:05 PM (jehhT)

4 The Kale is a Lie?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 19, 2026 04:05 PM (sk9DV)

5 Pizza soon. Haven't in awhile as way to hot but nice out today

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 04:05 PM (Ia/+0)

6 Bacon, yum

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 04:06 PM (dZE4s)

7 My favorite Brussels Sprouts recipe involves bacon. You cook up about a pound of bacon while sauteing the Sprouts. Once the Sprouts are done you throw them in the garbage and eat the bacon.

Brussels Sprouts make me Phlegmish. As do Belgian waffles and Stella Artois.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 19, 2026 04:06 PM (Kakst)

8 Got bacon this week, had egg, cheese and bacon on toasted English muffin this morning.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 04:07 PM (Ia/+0)

9 Cain’s plant offering to God, which was rejected, was probably kale.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 04:07 PM (P6E1+)

10 I do thick cut bacon on a foil lined baking sheet in the oven at 400 degrees for 16 minutes with a flip when it is down to the 3-4 minute mark. Sometimes I have to give it another minute or so but it comes out fine. And there is no clean up mess.

If you want to save the bacon grease you just pour it off into a container.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 04:09 PM (0N4FZ)

11 I dug up a bucket of garlic, I am leaving a bunch for seed and cloves for re-planting this fall.
In the next couple of days I should be out trimming the heads I dug for storage, since they should be dry by then.

The nice thing about raising my own garlic is that I can use a whole head if I feel like it. I often do.

I also dug a bucket of potatoes this morning, about 1/5th of the bed I am letting the rest stay into the ground until the vines fully die.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 04:09 PM (rbvCR)

12 Will CBD and Piper please report to the Thunderdome, please.

Posted by: AoSHQ Announcer Voice at July 19, 2026 04:10 PM (B0NCh)

13 Cleaning the pan is another issue for another day.

I use a baking sheet lined with heavy duty Al foil (cheap at Costco). No cleanup needed.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 04:10 PM (Riz8t)

14 ...If you want to save the bacon grease you just pour it off into a container.

Or drink it as an aperitif.

Well, maybe not, but sopping it up with good crusty bread? Yes. Definitely.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 19, 2026 04:11 PM (Kakst)

15 Cain’s plant offering to God, which was rejected, was probably kale.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 04:07 PM (P6E1+)

Naaa.
It was okra.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 04:11 PM (2WIwB)

16 The Korean BBQ place uses oven cleaner to clean the grates in the middle of the table that the patrons cook their own thin sliced meat.

I bet that would work on the bacon pan if you aren't using an Aluminum cookie sheet.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 04:12 PM (rbvCR)

17 Naaa.
It was okra.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 04:11 PM (2WIwB)

*looks around for Publius and/or Miley*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 19, 2026 04:12 PM (B0NCh)

18 I had four full-size strips of bacon placed alongside a take-out lettuce and chicken salad today (sort of a chicken parmesan but not exactly). Yum.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:13 PM (6wpGE)

19 My preferred method of cooking bacon is to buy a bag of precooked bacon crumbles at Costco.

My bacon grease needs are met with "BaconUp" brand packaged bacon grease.

And I don't grow my own barley to make beer, either.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2026 04:13 PM (NeM+a)

20 I dug up a bucket of garlic, I am leaving a bunch for seed and cloves for re-planting this fall.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 04:09 PM (rbvCR)

I don't like being mocked.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 04:14 PM (l4RKn)

21 Nice paean to bacon CBD

I keep some render in the fridge to fry eggs.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 04:15 PM (RIvkX)

22 I also did ribs this week. Mine were St. Louis pork ribs. The ribs were done at the same time as I smoked a pork shoulder for pulled pork.

In both cases, I used a custom rub. I started the shoulder at 745 at 270F, and added the ribs at 1215. I thought that might be a bit high for ribs, but it was not, and besides, it's what people like Franklin use. If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

Both meats were done at about 1630, and were excellent.

BTW, I highly recommend a spreadsheet for keeping track of your procedures and experiences with smoked meats. You'd be amazed at how many times you'll go back to check what you did before. It makes it much easier to optimize things.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 04:16 PM (Riz8t)

23 Making steak for dinner. It’s Argentinian. Maybe with Spanish rice? So all bases covered.

Also, that halftime show was better than anything the NFL has done in the last forever.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 04:17 PM (Dd38x)

24 That bacon would look awesome on some lightly toasted bread with lettuce(not the explosive diarrhea kind) tomatoes and avocado..

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 04:17 PM (2WIwB)

25 I dug up a bucket of garlic, I am leaving a bunch for seed and cloves for re-planting this fall.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 04:09 PM (rbvCR)

I don't like being mocked.

Costco has bags of excellent CA garlic for a very reasonable price. I'm just sayin'. No feces (to the best of my knowledge).

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 04:18 PM (Riz8t)

26 If you people think that I didn't save the the bacon fat, then I clearly have not communicated my food thoughts clearly.

It might be time for a shock to the system.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 04:18 PM (l4RKn)

27
And I don't grow my own barley to make beer, either.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

How about your Hops. You're in the right zone!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 04:18 PM (NnhvP)

28 "Cleaning the pan is another issue for another day."

_____________________________

I was under the impression that you had a dog.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 04:19 PM (dIske)

29 A robot can't stop a homeless guy from sh&tting all over a field. Solving that issue is not as simple as switching to robots...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 04:19 PM (tOcjL)

30 I like filé gumbo, but I like okra gumbo too. I do not like boiled okra served by themselves, but fried okra I find quite acceptable. De gustibus non est disputandum.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 04:19 PM (P6E1+)

31 [] A robot can't stop a homeless guy from sh&tting all over a field. Solving that issue is not as simple as switching to robots...

One armed with sensors and a flamethrower can.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 04:20 PM (Riz8t)

32 If the robots pick the lettuce, there won’t be anybody in the field to relieve himself on the crop.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 04:21 PM (P6E1+)

33 My grandma did not keep bacon fat on the stove but there was always a jar of schmaltz in the fridge.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 04:21 PM (RIvkX)

34 Amazon sold me 5 packs of thick cut bacon for $1.49/lb. Needless to say, tomorrow's dinner is bacon, eggs, and asparagus (maybe wrapped in more bacon) with fruit.

I love Amazon grcoery delivery b/c something is either widly low mispriced or just doorbusted.

2 weeks ago, it was 39 cents bagged baby carrots.
Last week, it was 89 cents strawberries.
Today was the $1.49 bacon.
Usually limited to 5...and I tend to get all 5.

It's not even short dated or weirdly made. It's nice, good food.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 04:21 PM (tOcjL)

35 Homeless guys live in cities where the handouts are easier.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 04:22 PM (P6E1+)

36 Is aluminum foil also haram is CBDland?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2026 04:23 PM (zZu0s)

37 Will Kale taste better if you cook it in bacon grease?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:26 PM (l3cgK)

38 I am liking the way the ceramic griddle is frying the bacon

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 04:26 PM (Ia/+0)

39 Bacon. 400 degrees in oven on foil lined 11X17 baking sheet. 18-22 mins. I'll start checking around 15 mins and flip. Even better put baking racks on top of baking sheet to lift bacon out of the grease. Either way works fine and clean up is easy-peasy.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 19, 2026 04:26 PM (nT/TX)

40 The bacon and ribs look yummy. I just finished lunch. Beanie weenies. It was good; a little Tabasco to liven it up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 04:26 PM (1z8ji)

41 I made a batch of bacon yesterday in the oven (broiler on low, 9 minutes a side) and used some of the precious porcine grease to oil up the an I used for cornbread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 04:26 PM (kpS4V)

42 33 My grandma did not keep bacon fat on the stove but there was always a jar of schmaltz in the fridge.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 04:21 PM (RIvkX)

I keep mine in the fridge. Use it when I fry up eggs, cook refried beans and for other things.
No, not PDiddy things.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:26 PM (l3cgK)

43 40 The bacon and ribs look yummy. I just finished lunch. Beanie weenies. It was good; a little Tabasco to liven it up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 04:26 PM (1z8ji)

I made chorizo beans and chorizo and eggs for breakfast...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:27 PM (l3cgK)

44 I save the grease in the fridge too.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 04:28 PM (kpS4V)

45 I made chorizo beans and chorizo and eggs for breakfast...

No spam?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 04:28 PM (Riz8t)

46 Tonight is a meeting of Greece meets Mexico...spouse is beer brewing and I needed something in a crock and the fridge...

So, I decided to put the new Greek chickpeas at my local Aldi's to work in a salad with cucumber, celery, grape tomatoes, and green onions (with extra lemon, olive oil, and salt). Then, I've got pork carnitas in the crockpot that will become taquitos (small tortillas - just cheese, onion, and cilantro for those who desire it). Then, strawberries and grapes.

So, another version of buffet dinner.

I made a lentil salad this week with different veg and thinning out a deli olive-topped hummus with olive oil and lemon that the family loved...so moving back to the chickpeas was an easy call...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 04:28 PM (tOcjL)

47 If the robots pick the lettuce, there won’t be anybody in the field to relieve himself on the crop.
Posted by: NemoMe

But then how will we spread diseases?
~Taylor farms.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 04:29 PM (NnhvP)

48 One armed with sensors and a flamethrower can.
Why just one arm?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 19, 2026 04:32 PM (t2Ch6)

49 Stealing and paraphrased from a very funny lady:

There are two kinds of people: one says, 'I like bacon.' as in 'I enjoy bacon.'; the other says, 'I like bacon.' as in 'I like to breathe!'.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 19, 2026 04:32 PM (NcvvS)

50 Is Taylor Farms owned by the CCP?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 04:33 PM (P6E1+)

51 45 I made chorizo beans and chorizo and eggs for breakfast...

No spam?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 04:28 PM (Riz8t)

Nope. The chorizo beans do fine by themselves in corn tortillas, or with the chorizo and eggs in a corn tortilla.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:33 PM (l3cgK)

52 49 Stealing and paraphrased from a very funny lady:

There are two kinds of people: one says, 'I like bacon.' as in 'I enjoy bacon.'; the other says, 'I like bacon.' as in 'I like to breathe!'.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 19, 2026 04:32 PM (NcvvS)

There's a third type that loves their bacon sexually. We don't talk about them...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:33 PM (l3cgK)

53 We take the same approach of cooking bacon in the oven. But we put it on parchment paper. Makes the pan easy to clean and easy to pour off the fat. I have an old coffee mug that has become my bacon fat receptacle. Best way to make fried eggs.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 04:34 PM (yTvNw)

54 So, another version of weaned on cock

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 19, 2026 04:34 PM (t2Ch6)

55 Bacon is a chameleon food it can be breakfast lunch, dinner, and appetizer. It can be the main, a side, or an ingredient . Thick or thin. Crispy or unctuous. It can be wrapped around or rolled.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 04:34 PM (RIvkX)

56 We use parchment paper to line the pan when baking bacon. Saves the grease and little to no clean up!

Posted by: DanMa'am at July 19, 2026 04:35 PM (8uzBS)

57 53 We take the same approach of cooking bacon in the oven. But we put it on parchment paper. Makes the pan easy to clean and easy to pour off the fat. I have an old coffee mug that has become my bacon fat receptacle. Best way to make fried eggs.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 04:34 PM (yTvNw)

Fried eggs indeed. Dad used to cook up a few pounds of bacon, then plop the eggs into the bacon grease, poaching them. Best Eggs Eva. The poor dogs would be at the windows trying to get inside...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:35 PM (l3cgK)

58 Cooking bacon in the oven is like wearing sweatpants on the bus. It says, "I have given up and do not deserve properly cooked bacon."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 04:36 PM (RIvkX)

59 First time I've ever grown jalapenos. Picking the first one to use at dinner tonight.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 19, 2026 04:36 PM (n5tGW)

60 Hello Foodsters.

Chips and watching flopball with a nice glass of wine. My services are subject to the dinner prep summons.

Might be a merciful reprieve from the game.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:37 PM (Oom6t)

61 "As much as I love British cooking,"...... Now that's a phrase you don't hear every day, or actually, hardly ever.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 04:37 PM (EIx/N)

62 I don't like to do bacon in the oven because of splatter. Once that fat bakes onto the glass, it's really hard to remove. I cook mine in my Ninja Foodi Grill. The fat can easily be poured out of the catch pan, and I can soak the grill grid in the sink. And it's perfect every time!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 04:38 PM (h7ZuX)

63 Boy F. is in the kitchen right now marinating the chicken for Katsu tonight.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 04:39 PM (RIvkX)

64 When I was a kid I would often go camping with my buddy and his dad, and often a couple other friends. His dad would fry up a bunch of bacon in a large cast iron pan, then fry a bunch of eggs. Every now and then he would fry up a few brook trout if he caught any.

Heaven.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 04:39 PM (0aYVJ)

65 No, not PDiddy things.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:26 PM (l3cgK)

Typically this topic is reserved for the ONT.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:40 PM (Oom6t)

66 Saw an interesting to clean bacon grease.
Place in bottle while liquid, add water cap tightly, shake well, place upside down in frig over night.

Remove from frig, open and pour out water with debris. You'll be left with clean bacon fat in the jar.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 04:40 PM (NnhvP)

67 There's a third type that loves their bacon sexually. We don't talk about them...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:33 PM (l3cgK)

Oh they will on the ONT. When somebody’s mom isn’t a prominent topic.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:43 PM (Oom6t)

68 Saw an interesting to clean bacon grease.
Place in bottle while liquid, add water cap tightly, shake well, place upside down in frig over night.

Remove from frig, open and pour out water with debris. You'll be left with clean bacon fat in the jar.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 04:40 PM

You can do that with any fat we do that with the left over liquid from a brisket. It makes a very nice aus ju for the left over brisket.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 04:43 PM (0N4FZ)

69 You can do that with any fat we do that with the left over liquid from a brisket. It makes a very nice aus ju for the left over brisket.
Posted by: Mister Scott

In my smoker there are no drippings to save.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 04:45 PM (NnhvP)

70 59 First time I've ever grown jalapenos. Picking the first one to use at dinner tonight.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 19, 2026 04:36 PM (n5tGW)

Wash your hands very, very well afterwards...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:45 PM (l3cgK)

71 Cooking bacon in the oven is like wearing sweatpants on the bus. It says, "I have given up and do not deserve properly cooked bacon."
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 04:36 PM (RIvkX)

I usually do it in a pan on stove top as God and George Washington intended. I am usually making eggs as well and look at that! The grease is already in the pan!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2026 04:45 PM (zZu0s)

72 Right now I'm finding the bacon grease cup to be more captivating than the world cup.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 04:46 PM (sYM3s)

73 In my smoker there are no drippings to save.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 04:45 PM (NnhvP)

Time to up your game, Buddy!

Posted by: the coyote lurking out behind AZ Deplorable's shop at July 19, 2026 04:47 PM (1z8ji)

74 It pays to label your packs of frozen food with the date. Found a package of chicken thighs in the big freezer that I didn't remember. It was dated from 2012. I briefly considered stewing the pieces but they made an Egyptian mummy look lithe and well hydrated. Figured if I could live without them for 14 years, I didn't need to continue the relationship.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 04:47 PM (yTvNw)

75 61 "As much as I love British cooking,"...... Now that's a phrase you don't hear every day, or actually, hardly ever.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 04:37 PM (EIx/N)

Hello faggot lovers! Have you tried our faggots?

Posted by: Birdseye Faggots in Gravy at July 19, 2026 04:48 PM (l3cgK)

76 I usually do it in a pan on stove top as God and George Washington intended. I am usually making eggs as well and look at that! The grease is already in the pan!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2026 04:45 PM (zZu0s)
====
Cast iron?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 04:48 PM (RIvkX)

77
Time to up your game, Buddy!
Posted by: the coyote lurking
You might get invited for pulled pork next winter... maybe!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 04:50 PM (NnhvP)

78 I bake bacon on a rack in a foiled lined baking pan.

Don't need to flip it.

After it reaches the desired level of doneness the strips are laid out on a bunch of paper towels and the precious liquid gold from the foil lined pans is poured into a small Mason jar used to fry eggs the rest of the week.

Aldi sells a thick sliced peppercorn bacon that is the best choice for this method.

Oven fried bacon cooked on a rack is almost completely flat.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 04:50 PM (2Ez/1)

79 small Mason jar used to fry eggs

How do you keep the jar from breaking?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 04:52 PM (NnhvP)

80 I had about half of a blueberry pancake from Cafe Amsterdam (local eatery) in a to-go box in my fridge. Their pancakes are about the size of a standard dinner plate and a good 1/2-3/4" thick. My diabeeeeetus will allow only me to eat about half of one without getting in trouble, so I usually come home with something.

I keep meaning to ask them what they use for levening, because that fluffiness is way beyond the capacity of the amateur-level baking powder I have.

I just had that and four slices of bacon for lunch. I'm a "breakfast any time" guy.

If anyone gives a crap about ghey European kickball games: at 72 minutes into the game there's no score for either the Argies or the Spaniards. Exciting. Not.

I will give the announcers credit for trying their best to make this dull shite exciting, but it's not working for me.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 04:53 PM (IG3/x)

81 74 It pays to label your packs of frozen food with the date. Found a package of chicken thighs in the big freezer that I didn't remember. It was dated from 2012. I briefly considered stewing the pieces but they made an Egyptian mummy look lithe and well hydrated. Figured if I could live without them for 14 years, I didn't need to continue the relationship.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 04:47 PM (yTvNw)

There was a frozen duck in my freezer for at least 10 years...I thawed it, baked it, and it was just fine.

Posted by: Birdseye Faggots in Gravy at July 19, 2026 04:53 PM (l3cgK)

82 I cannot wait for the time when robotic picking and processing decreases the number of primitives handling our food, "

Something tells me y'all haven't seen lettuce harvested... in a while.

This tale goes back to the cheap labor bit...

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 04:53 PM (XuXeR)

83 off faggotty sock...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:54 PM (l3cgK)

84 Lazy dinner tonight. Jersey Mike's original Italian sub and chips. Maybe a piece of cantaloupe for dessert.

Posted by: Tuna at July 19, 2026 04:54 PM (lJ0H4)

85 I bake bacon on a rack in a foiled lined baking pan.

Don't need to flip it.

After it reaches the desired level of doneness the strips are laid out on a bunch of paper towels and the precious liquid gold from the foil lined pans is poured into a small Mason jar used to fry eggs the rest of the week.

Aldi sells a thick sliced peppercorn bacon that is the best choice for this method.

Oven fried bacon cooked on a rack is almost completely flat.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 04:50 PM

I do that on my pellet grill when I want some extra smoke on the bacon for burgers and such. 400 until it just starts to crisp up and then pull it. That method takes way more time than just tossing it in the oven for bacon and eggs.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 04:54 PM (0N4FZ)

86 Wash your hands very, very well afterwards..."

Nah. Go ahead and rub your eyes...

*no, don't

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 04:55 PM (XuXeR)

87 Cast iron?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 04:48 PM (RIvkX)

I actually have 2. One from my grandparents that is enameled. On the cooking surface. EVERYTHING sticks to that surface. Also, a Lodge that is probably... 70 years newer?

Plus the enamel probably is leaded and leeches all sorts of shit to food.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2026 04:55 PM (zZu0s)

88 Well, back to the salt mines. But Imma put a can of Shiner Bock in the coozy to ward off thirst.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 04:56 PM (1z8ji)

89 Wash your hands very, very well afterwards...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:45 PM (l3cgK)

But rub your eyes before you scrub! I only had to try that once.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:57 PM (Oom6t)

90 The absolute best way to cook bacon is to deep fry it.

Nope, not making this up. It cooks super-fast and is perfectly (and evenly) crispy throughout. Then you have all that yummy bacon grease in there just waiting for fries, chicken tenders, breaded mushrooms...

If you're of the deep frying persuasion, the next time you change the oil in your fryer, fry a package of bacon in it before anything else.

Thank me later.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 04:58 PM (IG3/x)

91 90 The absolute best way to cook bacon is to deep fry it.

Nope, not making this up. It cooks super-fast and is perfectly (and evenly) crispy throughout. Then you have all that yummy bacon grease in there just waiting for fries, chicken tenders, breaded mushrooms...

If you're of the deep frying persuasion, the next time you change the oil in your fryer, fry a package of bacon in it before anything else.

Thank me later.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 04:58 PM (IG3/x)

I found that to be true. When the skillet is so full of bacon grease that the fresh bacon sinks in it, the bacon cooks very evenly...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 04:59 PM (l3cgK)

92 >>>I do that on my pellet grill when I want some extra smoke on the bacon for burgers and such. That method takes way more time than just tossing it in the oven for bacon and eggs.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 04:54 PM (0N4FZ)
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That's my preferred way to cook bacon too. I cook up at least a pound. Comes out great but it is time consuming.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 05:00 PM (EIx/N)

93 Argentina still has zero shots on goal at 82 minutes...they have Spain right where they want them...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 05:01 PM (tOcjL)

94 Similar method for cooking bacon in the oven, but I use the broiler pan so that all the bacon grease (YUM!!!!!) collects in the bottom so I can save it for later.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at July 19, 2026 05:01 PM (7kJyR)

95 93 Argentina still has zero shots on goal at 82 minutes...they have Spain right where they want them...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 05:01 PM (tOcjL)

hey, that would make for an interesting sport...each time a team shoots a goal, the entire team has to take a shot...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:03 PM (l3cgK)

96 > 93 Argentina still has zero shots on goal at 82 minutes...they have Spain right where they want them...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 05:01 PM (tOcjL)

I've got it playing in another tab, switching back to it whenever I hear the crowd roaring.

So far it's never been anything of note. Soccer fans appear to be easily amused.

I've also noticed that (as advertised) these players take a dive at the slightest excuse.

They go down faster than a Norfolk whore on fleet payday.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 05:04 PM (IG3/x)

97 Bacon in Oven: Line pan with foil, then overlay with parchment paper.

Posted by: RS at July 19, 2026 05:05 PM (GYx3d)

98 Tried something I hadn't done before. Cooked some ground lamb and drained off the excess grease. Sautéed onion and garlic in the pan then added the lamb again with rosemary and red wine. Simmered that for awhile and then added mushroom caps Simmered awhile longer then added asparagus tips. Served that over a cheesey polenta.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:06 PM (abScH)

99
They go down faster than a Norfolk whore on fleet payday.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

That isn't fast.
~KH

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 05:07 PM (NnhvP)

100 90 The absolute best way to cook bacon is to deep fry it.
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There's a reason why the Bacon Wench is the most popular 'Ette at the TXMOME...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 05:08 PM (FZ29D)

101 98 Tried something I hadn't done before. Cooked some ground lamb and drained off the excess grease. Sautéed onion and garlic in the pan then added the lamb again with rosemary and red wine. Simmered that for awhile and then added mushroom caps Simmered awhile longer then added asparagus tips. Served that over a cheesey polenta.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:06 PM (abScH)

OH HELL! You had me at the onion and garlic part, but that sounds AMAZING!

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at July 19, 2026 05:09 PM (7kJyR)

102 Perfessor, Amen!

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:09 PM (abScH)

103 The red card on Argentina will be the game in extra time.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 05:11 PM (tOcjL)

104 FOX News

"Khamenei Reportedly Flees Iran As Questions Swirl About His Whereabouts"

Maybe he's hanging out with Mitch.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 05:13 PM (RCjYY)

105 103 The red card on Argentina will be the game in extra time.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 05:11 PM (tOcjL)

Is the red card a red herring?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:13 PM (l3cgK)

106 103 The red card on Argentina will be the game in extra time.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 05:11 PM (tOcjL)

Difference between US football and this so-called futbol. That would have be a righteous hit by a linebacker.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at July 19, 2026 05:13 PM (7kJyR)

107 104 FOX News

"Khamenei Reportedly Flees Iran As Questions Swirl About His Whereabouts"

Maybe he's hanging out with Mitch.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 05:13 PM (RCjYY)

He's communing with the 12th Imam...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:14 PM (l3cgK)

108 > He's communing with the 12th Imam...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:14 PM (l3cgK)

What's that, Lassie? Did the ayatollah fall down the well again?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 05:15 PM (IG3/x)

109 Bacon in the oven works OK, I think it is more suited to institutional cooking, almost the only practical way for large quantities. I like the idea of thick cut Bacon more than the typical result. It tends to be tough.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:17 PM (3ErUN)

110 I've had some deep fried bacon somewhere. Can't recollect where off the top of my head. Served by a wench though.

Posted by: javems at July 19, 2026 05:18 PM (a/LVK)

111 106 103 The red card on Argentina will be the game in extra time.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 05:11 PM (tOcjL)

Difference between US football and this so-called futbol. That would have be a righteous hit by a linebacker.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at July 19, 2026 05:13 PM (7kJyR)

I still have to chuckle...
https://youtu.be/JYqfVE-fykk&t=156

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:19 PM (l3cgK)

112 Not a surprise to the Horde but I use cast iron for 80 percent or more of my cooking these days, mostly Lodge. Besides the usual skillets and Dutch ovens I got a couple of their enameled Dutch ovens and a skillet made in the USA before they were discontinued. (That was a bummer.) I won't knowingly use cookware made in China.. Their cast iron bread pans make the best quick breads.

I believe learning to use cast iron cookware has made me a better cook. If nothing else it gives my arms a workout every time.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 05:20 PM (yTvNw)

113 Oven fried bacon cooked on a rack is almost completely flat.
——

You say that like it’s a good thing? I like the folds and ridges. I prefer frying in a pan. Easier to gauge the perfect level of done-ness. Oven baked tends to make a lot of smoke too.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:23 PM (3ErUN)

114 I have a cast iron dutch oven and 12" fry pan from my grands, they are WELL-SEASONED!

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at July 19, 2026 05:24 PM (7kJyR)

115 They're not showing all of the celebrities in their posh accommodations now. This WC is an agonizing slog.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 05:24 PM (sYM3s)

116 Is there such a thing as bacon that has been 'too well cooked - (a/k/a 'overcooked')? I think not. Bacon is God's Perfect Food Group.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 05:26 PM (ayRl+)

117 115 They're not showing all of the celebrities in their posh accommodations now. This WC is an agonizing slog.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 05:24 PM (sYM3s)

The celebs are a few gallons into their chardonnay at this point.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at July 19, 2026 05:26 PM (7kJyR)

118 I have a cast iron dutch oven and 12" fry pan from my grands, they are WELL-SEASONED!

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at July 19, 2026 05:24 PM

Nothing seasons cast iron like bacon. If I have to re season my pans I fry some bacon in them and let them cool off. Wipe the excess off and then run the pan under hot water with no soap and just a sponge and you have a very well seasoned cast iron pan.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 05:27 PM (0N4FZ)

119 Bacon can surely get burnt. Not good. You have Failed the first test of Baconry skills

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:27 PM (3ErUN)

120 Is there such a thing as bacon that has been 'too well cooked - (a/k/a 'overcooked')? I think not. Bacon is God's Perfect Food Group.
Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 05:26 PM (ayRl+)
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Yes. You can can char it into a lump of carbon. It's not as tasty when that happens.

The trick is to find that "Goldilocks Zone" where it's not rubbery and chewy and not a blackened stick.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 05:28 PM (FZ29D)

121 Nothing seasons cast iron like bacon. If I have to re season my pans I fry some bacon in them and let them cool off. Wipe the excess off and then run the pan under hot water with no soap and just a sponge and you have a very well seasoned cast iron pan.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 05:27 PM (0N4FZ)

True! I like to make cornbread in the fry pan. Rub some bacon grease into it. Preheat in the oven. Pour the cornbread mix in, and stick it back in the oven until done. It NEVER sticks!

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at July 19, 2026 05:31 PM (7kJyR)

122 Spotted on the clearance rack at the liquor store:

Single malt
100% barley malt
Aged in oak casks

Made by the Bulleit bourbon and rye folks in Kentucky.

The word "Scotch" was not on the label.

Should I go back and buy it? Perchance to put it in an "Old Knobgobbler" bottle and see if my Scotch-drinking friends notice the difference?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2026 05:31 PM (NeM+a)

123 Yes. You can can char it into a lump of carbon. It's not as tasty when that happens.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 05:28 PM (FZ29D)

Not "as" tasty. But I will still eat it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 05:31 PM (h7ZuX)

124 “Seasoning” is a thin layer of completely carbonized fat. Coal black. Bacon frying helps to maintain that for sure. Vegetable fats turn sticky, and rancid. No bueno!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:32 PM (3ErUN)

125 I've had some deep fried bacon somewhere. Can't recollect where off the top of my head. Served by a wench though.

Posted by: javems at July 19, 2026 05:18 PM (a/LVK)

I've heard rumors of this marvelousness....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:32 PM (l4RKn)

126 > I think beef ribs, when done well, are at the top of the beef pyramid.

When you don't have 24hrs to cook and when you have more guests than USDA Prime Filet Mignon, a reverse sear on a pellet smoker then appropriately sliced yields probably the best fajita filling a person can ever expect to eat. Pairs well with cilantro lime rice and Elote (Mexican street corn).

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 05:33 PM (NzX/y)

127 116 Is there such a thing as bacon that has been 'too well cooked - (a/k/a 'overcooked')? I think not. Bacon is God's Perfect Food Group.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 05:26 PM (ayRl+)

Yes, when it becomes a burnt sacrifice, only appealing to deities...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:34 PM (l3cgK)

128 @ 74 It pays to label your packs of frozen food with the date. Found a package of chicken thighs in the big freezer that I didn't remember. It was dated from 2012. Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 04:47 PM (yTvNw)
________________________________

I label and date ALL of my groceryin' the minute it comes out of the bag. The black Sharpie pen is your friend. I also ('cos I'm anal-retentive to a fault) re-arrange the food in the freezer each time I add new stuff. Pain in the ass, yeah, but the new stuff always goes to the bottom of the stacks. That way, I'm always pulling from the old stock first. Except for those times when I screw up and forget to move something …

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 05:34 PM (ayRl+)

129 The old joke: My wife treats me like a god! All my meals are burnt beyond recognition...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:35 PM (l3cgK)

130 Bacon grease is the perfect fat for frying salmon. It needs no other flavoring.

Posted by: Wenda at July 19, 2026 05:35 PM (u84c/)

131 Inspired by the top photo to bake up six half pieces of thick sliced bacon. Now doing a bit of yard work, prepping to replace a few fence posts. Afterward, will have a fried egg, ham and bacon sandwich on oatmeal molasses toast.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 05:36 PM (sl73Y)

132 “Seasoning” is a thin layer of completely carbonized fat.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:32 PM (3ErUN)

It's actually polymerized fat. If it were carbonized, it would be burnt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:36 PM (l4RKn)

133 A mixture of bacon grease and pecan oil makes the most amazing fried chicken.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:37 PM (abScH)

134 130 Bacon grease is the perfect fat for frying salmon. It needs no other flavoring.

Posted by: Wenda at July 19, 2026 05:35 PM (u84c/)

I use it instead of lard for frying beans.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:37 PM (l3cgK)

135 If you can see splotches, colors, rust spots, that is not seasoning, it looks like a layer of varnish, that isn’t seasoning.

For outdoor use you want to season the whole damn thing, top bottom and sides, handle. It’s also a way of rustproofing more or less.

Interestingly Teflon is a sort of synthetic carbon. That’s what seasoning is, a naturally durable carbonized finish.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:37 PM (3ErUN)

136 135 If you can see splotches, colors, rust spots, that is not seasoning, it looks like a layer of varnish, that isn’t seasoning.

For outdoor use you want to season the whole damn thing, top bottom and sides, handle. It’s also a way of rustproofing more or less.

Interestingly Teflon is a sort of synthetic carbon. That’s what seasoning is, a naturally durable carbonized finish.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:37 PM (3ErUN)

Teflon does have carbon atoms in it...also fluorine...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:38 PM (l3cgK)

137 Baked my six half pieces in a 9x5 pan with tinfoil on the bottom, one corner prepped to facilitate fat run off to the bacon fat jar. Easy peasy clean up.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 05:39 PM (sl73Y)

138 Bacon grease is my lubricant of choice for searing a good-quality filet or ribeye.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 05:40 PM (6/7Fs)

139 I am enjoying having deviled eggs with cooked bacon mixed up with the yolks and other ingredients .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 19, 2026 05:41 PM (jt/rW)

140 The other great thing about bacon grease is, it has a half-life of about 15,000 years.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 05:41 PM (6/7Fs)

141 Baked my six half pieces in a 9x5 pan with tinfoil on the bottom, one corner prepped to facilitate fat run off to the bacon fat jar.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 05:39 PM (sl73Y)

I have been assured that baking bacon is wrong.

If it is wrong...I don't want to be right!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:41 PM (l4RKn)

142 Wishing had a bottle of red wine to go with the pizza

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 05:42 PM (Ia/+0)

143 It's actually polymerized fat. If it were carbonized, it would be burnt.
——

Well, Ok. But the entire piece itself will be coal black when seasoned. That’s what I’m getting at. It’s sort of like spit shining a boot, if you’re familiar with that.

The nutbars and overachievers will display a mirror finish on their cast iron. I just want my stuff not to rust, and eggs not to stick. Cast iron makes the best omelets and scrambled, taters, etc.

Heat retention, the mass of it, just cooks things better. Sometimes people say “even heat”, but it gets hot spots. But it excels for frying

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:42 PM (3ErUN)

144 I'm a true believer in cast iron when I have time to let it pre-heat thoroughly. Sadly the previous homeowner was apparently a true believer in glass(?)-top stoves, which... scratch easily.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 19, 2026 05:42 PM (aJQbY)

145 141 Baked my six half pieces in a 9x5 pan with tinfoil on the bottom, one corner prepped to facilitate fat run off to the bacon fat jar.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 05:39 PM (sl73Y)

I have been assured that baking bacon is wrong.

If it is wrong...I don't want to be right!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:41 PM (l4RKn)

Yes, the same with maple syrup and french toast...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 05:45 PM (l3cgK)

146 Heat retention, the mass of it, just cooks things better. Sometimes people say “even heat”, but it gets hot spots. But it excels for frying

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:42 PM (3ErUN)

That has been my experience also. I love my big, heavy cast-iron pan, but it definitely cooks unevenly compared to steel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:45 PM (l4RKn)

147 Bacon grease is great in lieu of Butter, when short on it. Cookies are excellent, biscuits, corn bread. I haven’t tried putting it on toast. Maybe?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:45 PM (3ErUN)

148 Have any of those Troublesome Texans show up here yet?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 19, 2026 05:45 PM (0sNs1)

149 There is plenty of food that we consume that does not readily come from the United States. And there is some that can come cheaper from elsewhere (but nobody can beat the productivity of the American farmer. Our ranchers and farmers are always in Beast Mode thanks to our freedoms and as a result they feed the entire damn world. Anyway,..). So…yeah, I guess we can go autarky here, but where will the coffee come from, or the cashews? The bananas?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 05:47 PM (4g5V+)

150 I haven’t tried putting it on toast. Maybe?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 05:45 PM (3ErUN)

My dad would sometimes put chicken fat on toast.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:48 PM (l4RKn)

151 We are experimenting with frozen lasagna tonight. Frozen home made lasagna from this past winter.

I am.... dubious.

But I've also had two Martinis. My GaF meter is low. And I have wine.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 05:48 PM (jehhT)

152 Advice/ suggestions please. I have some thick cut bone in pork chops that I want to cook but I despair at tough pork. I was going to put a dry rub on them , leave overnight and then cook. My plan is to wrap them in foil and put them in the oven for about 4 to 6 hours at 200 to see if they get fall off the bone tender.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:49 PM (abScH)

153 So…yeah, I guess we can go autarky here, but where will the coffee come from, or the cashews? The bananas?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 05:47 PM (4g5V+)

National security demands that we feed ourselves. Adding non-essentials from overseas is fine, as long as they aren't filthy, like Mexican lettuce.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:50 PM (l4RKn)

154 People who consume kale smoothies die.

People who use bacon grease conserved in coffee cans die.

Always understand that no matter what, one day you will die. Don’t hasten the process, sure, but keep that simple fact in mind.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 05:50 PM (4g5V+)

155 I have access to tailpipe bananas.

Posted by: Axel Foley at July 19, 2026 05:50 PM (6/7Fs)

156 My plan is to wrap them in foil and put them in the oven for about 4 to 6 hours at 200 to see if they get fall off the bone tender.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:49 PM (abScH)

Hmmm.... reverse sear? Maybe two hours, then finish in a pan?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:52 PM (l4RKn)

157 CBD, yes, a reverse sear was the plan. I guess I can just keep checking for tenderness after a couple of hours.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:54 PM (abScH)

158 So…yeah, I guess we can go autarky here, but where will the coffee come from,

Coffee: Hawaii (Kona)
Cashews: Hawaii, Florida (albeit very small amounts)
Bananas: Hawaii, Florida and Puerto Rico

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 05:54 PM (pawvM)

159 Advice needed: I like sun tea but the gallon container is a PITA to pour out of, being basically a wide-mouth jar. Every time I've bought a glass container with a spigot at the bottom so you don't have to lift it to pour but can chuck in tea bags and sit it in the sun to brew, the damn thing leaks. Anybody have one of those that works and could you tell me what brand it is? I'm done with blind-ordering one from Amazon and hoping it won't leak and that the spigot will work properly after it arrives! Thanks.

Posted by: tankascribe at July 19, 2026 05:54 PM (NtoJk)

160 National security demands that we feed ourselves. Adding non-essentials from overseas is fine, as long as they aren't filthy, like Mexican lettuce.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:50 PM (l4RKn)

For me…not even national security. It’s simpler: we can. Shorter distances. Logistics. We have a vast array of climates and soil types that can grow many things and an amazing ag sector which does not get near enough love. All I’m saying is.

1) it could come cheaper from elsewhere.
2) it could be better elsewhere (I want wine from Germany rather than CA)
3) even so, we cannot grow everything

How DARE you imply that cashews are non-essential! Or coffee! Or bananas! : )

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 05:56 PM (4g5V+)

161 Coffee: Hawaii (Kona)
Cashews: Hawaii, Florida (albeit very small amounts)
Bananas: Hawaii, Florida and Puerto Rico
Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 05:54 PM (pawvM)

To sustain 300 million people, good luck.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 05:57 PM (4g5V+)

162 @ 152 Advice/ suggestions please. I have some thick cut bone in pork chops that I want to cook but I despair at tough pork. I was going to put a dry rub on them , leave overnight and then cook. My plan is to wrap them in foil and put them in the oven for about 4 to 6 hours at 200 to see if they get fall off the bone tender. Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:49 PM (abScH)
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Ben Had, IMHO and after many many pieces of 'too tough' pork (usually a tenderloin, but occasionally pork chops), I use the following steps: (1) remove silverskin; (1) season the tenderloin; (3) insert thermometer with pointer at correct temp (usually 180°F); (4) remove from oven at 160°F; (5) place in cast iron (Le Creuset porcelained) 6-qt pot; (6) add stock and seasonings (7) let cook at low temp for 3-4 hrs; (

remove and let cool; (9) slice and eat. Yeah, it'll be tender … adjust these steps for chops.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 05:59 PM (ayRl+)

163 ****My dad would sometimes put chicken fat on toast.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:48 PM (l4RKn)*****
Yes!!, On toasted real rye bread with a sprinkling of kosher salt on top. Yum!!! Thanks for the memory CBD.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 06:02 PM (EIx/N)

164 153 So…yeah, I guess we can go autarky here, but where will the coffee come from, or the cashews? The bananas?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 05:47 PM (4g5V+)

National security demands that we feed ourselves. Adding non-essentials from overseas is fine, as long as they aren't filthy, like Mexican lettuce.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:50 PM (l4RKn)

Or Chinese garlic...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:02 PM (l3cgK)

165 Or Chinese garlic...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:02 PM (l3cgK)

Shudder....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 06:03 PM (l4RKn)

166 163 ****My dad would sometimes put chicken fat on toast.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:48 PM (l4RKn)*****
Yes!!, On toasted real rye bread with a sprinkling of kosher salt on top. Yum!!! Thanks for the memory CBD.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 06:02 PM (EIx/N)

Butter on fresh corn tortillas with a dash of salt...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:04 PM (l3cgK)

167 166 163 ****My dad would sometimes put chicken fat on toast.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 05:48 PM (l4RKn)*****
Yes!!, On toasted real rye bread with a sprinkling of kosher salt on top. Yum!!! Thanks for the memory CBD.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 06:02 PM (EIx/N)

Butter on fresh corn tortillas with a dash of salt...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:04 PM (l3cgK)

But I've also rubbed bread in the fat left over after cooking in the oven as well...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:04 PM (l3cgK)

168 ***Always understand that no matter what, one day you will die. Don’t hasten the process, sure, but keep that simple fact in mind.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 05:50 PM (4g5V+)***
Well, thanks for bringing that ray of sunshine to the food thread.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 06:06 PM (EIx/N)

169 @ 165 Or Chinese garlic... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:02 PM (l3cgK)
Shudder.... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 06:03 PM (l4RKn)
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Kroger & W'mart usually carry World Market garlic. I decided to call them and ask which country their garlic comes from. Imagine my surprise when I was informed that they grow all their own garlic in the Newnited States. Now it's my 'go-to' brand.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:07 PM (ayRl+)

170 165 Or Chinese garlic...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:02 PM (l3cgK)

Shudder....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 06:03 PM (l4RKn)

Yeah, don't ask me to choose my ~~poison~~ disease...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:07 PM (l3cgK)

171 I'm a big beef ribs fan. Lately the cost for a short rib pack is akin to a former porterhouse except a porterhouse is up to 25 plus... I used to do a sweet and sour rib deal when the Chicken Tonight in a jar product was on the shelves.. boo hoo who the hell decided Chicken Tonight was a no no??

Posted by: Yer Sistahs Tomato at July 19, 2026 06:08 PM (aaVMM)

172 I always add just a touch of water to the pan after cooking lamb chops and soak slices of sourdough bread in the juice.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:08 PM (abScH)

173 Well, thanks for bringing that ray of sunshine to the food thread.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 06:06 PM (EIx/N)

No problem!

That’s intended to lift a burden. Eat what you like, but keep things in balance, and chances are you will live a long and mostly healthy life. There is no Universal Rule Book because we are all individuals. And enjoy, which is the #1 purpose of the food thread.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:10 PM (4g5V+)

174 Yesterday was our 50th anniversary. Still use the cast iron pan that was gifted to us as wedding present. No idea if its a Lodge, but it is perfectly seasoned and as slick a non-stick pan!

Posted by: DanMa'am at July 19, 2026 06:10 PM (8uzBS)

175 I used to do a sweet and sour rib deal when the Chicken Tonight in a jar product was on the shelves.. boo hoo who the hell decided Chicken Tonight was a no no??
Posted by: Yer Sistahs Tomato at July 19, 2026 06:08 PM (aaVMM)

IKR?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:10 PM (4g5V+)

176 DanMa'am, congratulations. Look forward to seeing you both soon.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:11 PM (abScH)

177 Before the pandemic, Costco sold a pork crown roast stuffed and tied. All you had to do was throw it in the oven and serve the pork just a bit over medium rare. It was fantastic. I can’t find it anymore. It was so very good. Those chops were insane.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 06:12 PM (MLtjZ)

178 To sustain 300 million people, good luck.

That would be static analysis, if the US was forced to source all of its own food, production would ramp up.

But, and this is the real argument. We are accustomed to buying seasonal foods year round.

For Oranges: Florida: October - June, California: November - July; when US production winds down, then South Africa, Chile and Australia: June-October; Peru: June-September.

Apples, a bit different because they can be cold stored, but to keep supplied year-round, imports from the southern hemisphere kick in.

Lettuce is interesting because we should be able to get it from California's Salinas Valley. But Mexico has high elevations so they can grow it too. I'm guessing that Mexico's Taylor Farms had contracts to provide lettuce at scale for risk diversification.

It works, until it doesn't.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 06:12 PM (PVBkQ)

179 **I always add just a touch of water to the pan after cooking lamb chops and soak slices of sourdough bread in the juice.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:08 PM (abScH)**
I need to go get some lamb chops this week. Thank you for reminding me Ben Had.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 06:12 PM (EIx/N)

180 Curiosity query: Is anyone on the thread still using the old 'P-38' or 'P-51' military can openers? Bonus round question: Why do they have those numbers in their designation? Bueller … ?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:14 PM (ayRl+)

181
Coffee: Hawaii (Kona)
Cashews: Hawaii, Florida (albeit very small amounts)
Bananas: Hawaii, Florida and Puerto Rico
Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 05:54 PM (pawvM)

And actually, PR can grow coffee.

But PR and HI will never grow much. When they can combine to beat the coffee production of Brazil, give me a call. (This from someone who likes Kona coffee.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:15 PM (4g5V+)

182
Usha Vance gave birth to baby boy.

Congratulations to the Vance family!

Posted by: four seasons at July 19, 2026 06:15 PM (/QHx4)

183 A lot of people presume produce is grown in fields.

When I left California there were multi-level grow farms, internal, that produced 2, maybe 3X what they did in the ground. Acres of them.

12 years ago.

Not everything you eat that's "green" is grown in the ground.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 06:16 PM (jehhT)

184 180 Curiosity query: Is anyone on the thread still using the old 'P-38' or 'P-51' military can openers? Bonus round question: Why do they have those numbers in their designation? Bueller … ?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:14 PM (ayRl+)

To cut your way out of P-38 and P-51 airplanes?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:17 PM (l3cgK)

185 I have the meu planned for the week but I need a meat/ fish to go with Greek potatoes .

Then again, I could eat my weight in those potatoes

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:17 PM (abScH)

186 Curiosity query: Is anyone on the thread still using the old 'P-38' or 'P-51' military can openers? Bonus round question: Why do they have those numbers in their designation? Bueller … ?
Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:14 PM (ayRl+)

Q1: Yes. Two of them. keep them in my camping gear.
Q2: No friggin' idea, dreams of being kick-ass fighter planes, maybe?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 06:18 PM (0aYVJ)

187 LET’S GO MARINERS!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 06:19 PM (nwZ1c)

188 @ 184 180 Curiosity query: Is anyone on the thread still using the old 'P-38' or 'P-51' military can openers? Bonus round question: Why do they have those numbers in their designation? Bueller … ? Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:14 PM (ayRl+)
To cut your way out of P-38 and P-51 airplanes?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:17 PM (l3cgK)
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Close, but no cigar. The numbers indicate the number of punches it took to go completely around the C-ration can(-s) in the Magical Brown Box. I still have mine. Now they serve in a self-defence role …

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:20 PM (ayRl+)

189 Funny thing about the P-38. Being a southpaw I had to learn to use it backwards.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 06:20 PM (0aYVJ)

190 And actually, PR can grow coffee.

3-4 years before first meaningful harvest from year 0 planting.
5-7 years before productive maturity
8-20 year 0 trees peak production.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 06:20 PM (9s47C)

191 Thanks, Ben Had. Can't wait to see you, too!

Posted by: DanMa'am at July 19, 2026 06:20 PM (8uzBS)

192 188 @ 184 180 Curiosity query: Is anyone on the thread still using the old 'P-38' or 'P-51' military can openers? Bonus round question: Why do they have those numbers in their designation? Bueller … ? Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:14 PM (ayRl+)
To cut your way out of P-38 and P-51 airplanes?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:17 PM (l3cgK)
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Close, but no cigar. The numbers indicate the number of punches it took to go completely around the C-ration can(-s) in the Magical Brown Box. I still have mine. Now they serve in a self-defence role …

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:20 PM (ayRl+)

The P-38 was 38 mm long, the P-51 was 51 mm long. At least that's what the intertubes say...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:21 PM (l3cgK)

193 @ 192 188 @ 184 180 Curiosity query: Is anyone on the thread still using the old 'P-38' or 'P-51' military can openers? Bonus round question: Why do they have those numbers in their designation? Bueller … ? Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:14 PM (ayRl+)
To cut your way out of P-38 and P-51 airplanes?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:17 PM (l3cgK)
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Close, but no cigar. The numbers indicate the number of punches it took to go completely around the C-ration can(-s) in the Magical Brown Box. I still have mine. Now they serve in a self-defence role …

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:20 PM (ayRl+)

The P-38 was 38 mm long, the P-51 was 51 mm long. At least that's what the intertubes say...
________________________________

Sounds close enough to right for me … they're one helluva 'surprise' weapon to keep handy when walking thru a parking lot. Too small to be readily seen, too sharp to not be effective. Go for the face and eyes first if y' hafta use it.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:24 PM (ayRl+)

194 I was in the MRE era of the Army, so I had to acquire my P-38s from elsewhere, but I can't remember where I got them. Still, nice to have around, like the church key I got when I arrived at my battalion in Germany. I still have that on my key ring. Still comes in handy sometimes, but bottled beer is pretty scarce now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 06:26 PM (0aYVJ)

195 Dr_No, thank you for your suggestion.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:27 PM (abScH)

196 Pizza is pretty good
Had whole milk mozzarella, sweet peppers, fresh oregano, pepperoni, pizza sauce and store dough.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:28 PM (Ia/+0)

197 @194 I was in the MRE era of the Army, so I had to acquire my P-38s from elsewhere, but I can't remember where I got them. Still, nice to have around, like the church key I got when I arrived at my battalion in Germany. I still have that on my key ring. Still comes in handy sometimes, but bottled beer is pretty scarce now
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 06:26 PM (0aYVJ)
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We were still finishing off the leftover C-rats when I was in, but the MREs were being issued as field rats when I mustered out.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:28 PM (ayRl+)

198 182
Usha Vance gave birth to baby boy.

Congratulations to the Vance family!

Posted by: four seasons at July 19, 2026 06:15 PM (/QHx4
Yes Yes!! They named him AD Vance

Posted by: Yer Sistahs Tomato at July 19, 2026 06:30 PM (aaVMM)

199 We were still finishing off the leftover C-rats when I was in, but the MREs were being issued as field rats when I mustered out.
Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:28 PM (ayRl+)

Sad for me, but I had MREs before they thought to add the little Tabasco bottles. That would have helped a lot.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 06:30 PM (0aYVJ)

200 Spain won. Argentina now has to accept all their refugees

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 06:31 PM (gKWVE)

201 @ 199 We were still finishing off the leftover C-rats when I was in, but the MREs were being issued as field rats when I mustered out.Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:28 PM (ayRl+)

Sad for me, but I had MREs before they thought to add the little Tabasco bottles. That would have helped a lot. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 06:30 PM (0aYVJ)
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Yeah, I wish the C-rats had been issued with TabSauce too, but nooooo. On the other hand, they contained cigarettes and a more generous helping of 'wipe & dipe' paper (knowhutimean?). The canned peaches were always good, and I never minded the ham & eggs that some troops hated.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:33 PM (ayRl+)

202 > Still, nice to have around, like the church key I got when I arrived at my battalion in Germany. I still have that on my key ring. Still comes in handy sometimes, but bottled beer is pretty scarce now.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 06:26 PM (0aYVJ)
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True story

I was pulled over by a Washington D.C. cop about a half century ago. Placed keys, wallet, etc on the back of my '66 Chevelle. He pulled out my keyring with a "church key" and asked; "what's this?!"

I said "it's a church key."

He paused, then said.... OK... you're good to go.
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Back in the day the "capitol city" wasn't so fucked up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 06:34 PM (jehhT)

203 You put a P-38 on your keychain. Then someday, you might be the Man of the Hour, when a can needs opening by someone in distress. I use it sometimes when I can’t find the “real” can opener.

Sometimes hide stuff from myself. Gotta keep things interesting, I guess

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 06:35 PM (OWbRf)

204 I'm three lies for the price of one.

Posted by: MRE at July 19, 2026 06:38 PM (2Ez/1)

205 Yeah, I wish the C-rats had been issued with TabSauce too, but nooooo
——-

McGilhenney (sp) has a long relationship with the military. They had so many requests for it they started sending pallets of it overseas, gratis. They even had a C-Rat cookbook they put together for the troops. I would not be surprised if the little MRE bottles they provide were given away too, or at least they aren’t making bank. Always have a soft spot for Avery, LA for this reason

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 06:39 PM (OWbRf)

206 And pizza stone, 450 degrees 18 minutes
Is a bit thicker as usually 15 minutes

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:39 PM (Ia/+0)

207 @ 205 Yeah, I wish the C-rats had been issued with TabSauce too, but nooooo
——- McGilhenney (sp) has a long relationship with the military. They had so many requests for it they started sending pallets of it overseas, gratis. They even had a C-Rat cookbook they put together for the troops. I would not be surprised if the little MRE bottles they provide were given away too, or at least they aren’t making bank. Always have a soft spot for Avery, LA for this reason Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 06:39 PM (OWbRf)
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In an odd turn of events, after my discharge I sold industrial chemicals and the Avery Island farm(-s) were a client. One of the workers there shared a li'l secret about how they knew when the peppers were ready to pick. The pickers all carried a short stick with one end painted red. They'd hold that up to the peppers for a color match. If the two matched up, the peppers were ready to pick. That little stick's 'official' name at Avery Island was 'baton rouge'. Sound familiar … ?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:44 PM (ayRl+)

208 Skip, I am surprised you haven't built your own pizza oven.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:44 PM (abScH)

209 Dr_No, what a fun story.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:46 PM (abScH)

210 No pizza stone
Often thought to make a outside pizza oven with wood fire

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:46 PM (Ia/+0)

211 200 Spain won. Argentina now has to accept all their refugees
Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 06:31 PM (gKWVE)

Queen Letizia is happy and that is all that matters.

Soccer still sucks.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:47 PM (4g5V+)

212 203 You put a P-38 on your keychain. Then someday, you might be the Man of the Hour, when a can needs opening by someone in distress. I use it sometimes when I can’t find the “real” can opener.

Sometimes hide stuff from myself. Gotta keep things interesting, I guess

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 06:35 PM (OWbRf)

P-51s are a bit bigger and fit my ham hands better

Posted by: javems at July 19, 2026 06:48 PM (a/LVK)

213 @ 211 200 Spain won. Argentina now has to accept all their refugees Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 06:31 PM (gKWVE)
Queen Letizia is happy and that is all that matters. Soccer still sucks. Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:47 PM (4g5V+)
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Query: Has there ever been a time when soccer didn't suck … ?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:49 PM (ayRl+)

214 Finally getting to latest Directors Series video

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:50 PM (Ia/+0)

215 Was hoping for Argentina to win, so I could send congratulations to a online friend

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:52 PM (Ia/+0)

216 They still put P-38s in the T-Ration boxes, as they were large flat cans for mass feeding.

The drill sergeants would line up 2 privates with a T-Rat and a P-38 and “Ready Set Go!”. There’s probably 3 feet to open, it was hilarious to see someone reach muscle failure with a can opener.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 06:52 PM (OWbRf)

217 CBD. Thank you for the food thread. Always an inspiration.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:53 PM (abScH)

218 Thank you for the food thread. Always an inspiration.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:53 PM (abScH)

My pleasure young lady!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 06:54 PM (l4RKn)

219 Right, P-38s are in no way ergonomic or anything like that. But they work great in a pinch. That’s why you put one on your key chain. You’ll never notice it, but it’s there if you need it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 06:55 PM (OWbRf)

220 @ 216 They still put P-38s in the T-Ration boxes, as they were large flat cans for mass feeding. The drill sergeants would line up 2 privates with a T-Rat and a P-38 and “Ready Set Go!”. There’s probably 3 feet to open, it was hilarious to see someone reach muscle failure with a can opener. Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 06:52 PM (OWbRf)
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I am SO glad I never had to work a T-Rat box. I still wish the Mess Hall had had the Magic Potato Peeling Machine when I was assigned KP. Back then, we did it all hand-peeled …

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 06:55 PM (ayRl+)

221 FYI ... Bacon Up is shelf-stable bacon fat sold in many stores in the same location as Crisco.

Posted by: Kathy at July 19, 2026 06:55 PM (MOK4W)

222 I will fess up. In a pinch, for a quick BLT., I have used the precooked nuke it bacon.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 06:58 PM (abScH)

223 Right, P-38s are in no way ergonomic or anything like that. But they work great in a pinch. That’s why you put one on your key chain. You’ll never notice it, but it’s there if you need it.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 06:55 PM (OWbRf)

Until, of course, it gets slightly bent and will open up and start trying to dig a hole in your thigh. Then you invest in a bit o electrical tape.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 07:01 PM (rbvCR)

224 Oh, good, Food Thread is still live.

Bacon & Egg sandwiches for dinner. With the ingredients sticking out beyond the bread and runny yolk to sop up with the end of the bread. Mmm-mmm.

After that settled a bit, inspired to have some ice cream for desert. Being as how it's National Ice Cream Day.

Right, Marco?
https://bit.ly/rubio-natl-ice-cream-day

Aaaaand, willowed. NOOD GUNS
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=420617
Watching Cowboy Kent Rollins podcast from three weeks ago, Independence Day, talking about food from the Wild West and sponsors thereof, like T Roosevelt and Buffalo Bill.

https://youtu.be/flVzAsdoPOI

Posted by: mindful webworker - with chocolate sauce at July 19, 2026 07:03 PM (p+5Bi)

225 My wife also bakes bacon and solved the problem of a messy container by lining the cookie sheet with overlapping sheets of aluminum foil. It also keeps the grease from adhering so she can save it for later use.

Posted by: Mongo at July 19, 2026 07:56 PM (zYrhy)

226 “I cook up at least a pound. Comes out great but it is time consuming.”

Sounds like me…
I use a ‘70s era electric skillet. It takes me a hour to cook a pound of bacon. I’m extremely particular. I don’t like curly bacon. I cook it ensuring it stays flat and is the perfect consistency. Not fatty, not dry.
In fact, it’s only slightly less done than CBD’s intro picture. Mine is still barely flexible, but his appears to be trending towards crumbly upon handling.
I use it on sandwiches exclusively, mainly breakfast ones
This weekend was with Spam!

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 19, 2026 08:23 PM (qfGxA)

227 I cut a whole frozen thing of bacon into cubes and slow-cook them on the stovetop for an hour or whenever I feel like checking it again, then high heat to sear them on the outside. That gets me the crispy-but-not-hard outside with a creamy center.

Posted by: bravokilo at July 20, 2026 02:25 AM (/xFxI)

First World Problems [Doof]

Broken golf tees. How does that happen? You approach the tee box with your driver. You hear that voice in your head - "tee it high, and let it fly!" But how high is too high? There's water or some other hazard right in front of you. If you tee the ball too low, you'll top it and it'll go right in there! So you tee it up a little higher to make sure you hit the ball up in the air. But you teed it up too high, you hit the bottom of the ball, which means you also made contact with the tee, so the tee broke. No problem -- snap the bottom part off, toss it somewhere (be courteous and don't leave it on the ground at the tee box!), then put the top part of the tee into your pocket to use on a Par 3 or a short Par 4 when you're using a 3W or 5W. But you break several more tees before you get a chance to use one of the handful of salvaged stubbies that you kept. So you end up with a collection that looks something like this.

Useable for sure. But they're ugly! So what to do if you have OCD and don't want jagged stubby tees?

***

Grab that little pencil sharpener in your junk drawer, and make them look better!

I had a plethora of broken tees in my golf bag. After just a few minutes with the pencil sharpener (smaller opening), I had this lovely collection of stubby tees!

Fast forward a few days. Playing the back 9 at a local course. The Par 3 12th arrives. I had this ready to go!

Perfect height for the 7W I was about to swing - just gently enough to land in front of the green then roll up near the hole for a tap-in birdie.

At least that's the way things played out in my head as I took 2 practice swings. What really happened was a nice 75% backswing, followed by a rushed downswing and a too-soon head lift at impact so I topped the ball and it ended up about halfway between the tee box and the green.

Oh well - at least my stubby tee looked good!

[Please do not share this idea with bluebell - these sharpened tees could very easily be used as a shiv!]

Posted by: Open Blogger at 02:00 PM

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1 I'll fetch em

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 02:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Burn it. Burn it all and start over.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 19, 2026 02:01 PM (u73oe)

3 WTF is that?&

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 02:01 PM (Ia/+0)

4 I know what they are btw
If golf tees wete made of something tougher, say steel, titanium or mabe carbon fiber they might last longer.
But then they probably are the cheapest parts of playing golf.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 02:03 PM (Ia/+0)

5
those are nine millimeter tees

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 02:03 PM (LHPAg)

6 My first world problem is still my washing machine. About to take it to scrap yard and get another

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 02:04 PM (Ia/+0)

7 9 or 10mm tees, whatever it takes

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 02:05 PM (Ia/+0)

8 You're not being the ball, Danny.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 02:06 PM (gKWVE)

9 Even 3D printed in PLA they would be more durable.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 02:06 PM (VyBeY)

10 >>>So what to do if you have OCD and don't want jagged stubby tees?

Super glue? Duct tape?
Slap hot iron to it?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:07 PM (6wpGE)

11 I'm very proud of my sharpened stubby tees.

Please clap.

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 02:07 PM (QMAsf)

12 10mm have a snappier recoil.

Posted by: yardbird at July 19, 2026 02:07 PM (nPp6w)

13 *golf clap*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 02:08 PM (VyBeY)

14 11 I'm very proud of my sharpened stubby tees.

Please clap.
Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 02:07 PM (QMAsf)

Retweet if you agree.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:08 PM (6wpGE)

15 I have to plug a lot of tires because of tees. Don't sharpen the fucking things

Posted by: what the cat drug in at July 19, 2026 02:08 PM (jrgJz)

16 13 *golf clap*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 02:08 PM (VyBeY)

oooh
nice

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:09 PM (6wpGE)

17 Do they not make unbreakable golf tees molded from nylon?

Here is a money maker for you: take grass clippings. mulch them up in a blender, mix with water to make a thick slurry, pour into golf tee molds, and freeze solid. Put a mittful into a bag with dry ice, and use on the course. Tee up, take your shot, and let the tee melt and soak into the turf to become fertilizer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 02:10 PM (1z8ji)

18 Not gonna deny, though, it was a good thinking-outside-the-box solution to a vexing problem.
don't give up! perhaps next time the outcome will be better.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 02:10 PM (VyBeY)

19 Willowed:

I would like there to be a law that states-

If we have to find them and deport them, at that point, then their bank accts and all property and housing and transportation that they own are forfeit to the gov't.

I'm also thinking that any one who rents property ( apps, houses, etc) immediately loses their the entirety of their property to the gov't.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 02:11 PM (iJfKG)

20 13 *golf clap*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 02:08 PM (VyBeY)

well played

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 02:11 PM (QMAsf)

21 15 I have to plug a lot of tires because of tees. Don't sharpen the fucking things
Posted by: what the cat drug in at July 19, 2026 02:08 PM (jrgJz)
You ever get a chicken or rib bone out of a tire?

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 02:11 PM (LHPAg)

22 Big hitter, that Lama.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 02:11 PM (qZb7K)

23 but AOP wins the Innovation Prize for today!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 02:13 PM (VyBeY)

24 Somebody needs to work on his golf swing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 02:13 PM (3oLMy)

25 Somebody needs to work on his golf swing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 02:13 PM (3oLMy)

Working on it does not often mean improving it!

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 02:15 PM (QMAsf)

26

Doof
on the back 9
with a sharpened golf tee

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:15 PM (6wpGE)

27 Use both the tall and short tees depending on the club. Tall for the oversized driver small for fairway woods. No tee for irons.
Plastic tees are okay , while they don't break they do bend after a few strikes

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 02:17 PM (OXYE0)

28 A golf irritation is like the pinnacle of FWPs.7

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 02:17 PM (kpS4V)

29 but AOP wins the Innovation Prize for today!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 02:13 PM (VyBeY)

Woot! But seriously, there are two ways to go. Make durable golf tees that won't break at all, or make rapidly biodegradable golf tees that will vanish rapidly when broken or lost. How about making them from pretzel flour baked into a golf tee shape? Strong enough for one shot, and the birds and squirrels will happily eat the lost and broken ones. Plus snacks for the players!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 02:17 PM (1z8ji)

30 Like with pantyhose, it's designed obsolescence.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 19, 2026 02:19 PM (Lzhdy)

31 They make plastic ones.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 02:20 PM (BI5O2)

32 29 but AOP wins the Innovation Prize for today!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 02:13 PM (VyBeY)

Woot! But seriously, there are two ways to go. Make durable golf tees that won't break at all, or make rapidly biodegradable golf tees that will vanish rapidly when broken or lost. How about making them from pretzel flour baked into a golf tee shape? Strong enough for one shot, and the birds and squirrels will happily eat the lost and broken ones. Plus snacks for the players!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 02:17 PM (1z8ji)
chrystal meth.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 02:20 PM (LHPAg)

33 29 ... or make rapidly biodegradable golf tees that will vanish rapidly when broken or lost. How about making them from pretzel flour baked into a golf tee shape? Strong enough for one shot, and the birds and squirrels will happily eat the lost and broken ones. Plus snacks for the players!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 02:17 PM (1z8ji)

Or like those little, dry, plant-food spikes.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:21 PM (6wpGE)

34 A golf irritation is like the pinnacle of FWPs.7
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 02:17 PM (kpS4V)

So you're saying I outdid CBD on my first try?

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 02:21 PM (QMAsf)

35 FINE! What the hell are you trying to do? Kill me with a golf tee? It's not enough you got all these beautiful acres fenced in for your little game, but you gotta kill me with a golf tee? You should have children playing here! You should have families having picnics, you should have a goddamn petting zoo! Instead you've got these stupid electric carts for you old men with nothing better to do!

Posted by: Bill Foster at July 19, 2026 02:21 PM (45BvE)

36 Something very loud and very low just flew over my house. And it isn't a commercial flight, at least according to FlightAware!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 02:22 PM (l4RKn)

37 35 FINE! What the hell are you trying to do? Kill me with a golf tee? It's not enough you got all these beautiful acres fenced in for your little game, but you gotta kill me with a golf tee? You should have children playing here! You should have families having picnics, you should have a goddamn petting zoo! Instead you've got these stupid electric carts for you old men with nothing better to do!
Posted by: Bill Foster at July 19, 2026 02:21 PM (45BvE)

He seems nice.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:22 PM (6wpGE)

38 Burning down the whole golf course is going to be expensive and dangerous, but it's First World so you know you've got to do it.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 19, 2026 02:23 PM (zdLoL)

39 Have a spring in the middle of the tee that bends, like a spring door stop.

Posted by: Rex B at July 19, 2026 02:23 PM (R0XxO)

40 36 Something very loud and very low just flew over my house. And it isn't a commercial flight, at least according to FlightAware!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 02:22 PM (l4RKn)

wi tu lo?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:23 PM (6wpGE)

41 Play once a week in the mild months. Gave up carrying tees a few years ago, just use whatever whole or partial tee I find lying around the tee box.
Adds to the challenge, and I've saved tons of cents over this time.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 02:24 PM (sl73Y)

42 @trump_repost
9m
They do this, and the Republican Party is DEAD!

Key House caucus leaders target Supreme Court, Senate filibuster:

https://tinyurl.com/bdevyzm2

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 02:25 PM (3oLMy)

43 35 FINE! What the hell are you trying to do? Kill me with a golf tee? It's not enough you got all these beautiful acres fenced in for your little game, but you gotta kill me with a golf tee? You should have children playing here! You should have families having picnics, you should have a goddamn petting zoo! Instead you've got these stupid electric carts for you old men with nothing better to do!
Posted by: Bill Foster at July 19, 2026 02:21 PM (45BvE)
'That man's not a member of the club!'
-Judge Elihu Smalls

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 02:26 PM (LHPAg)

44 CBD

Blue Angel 3 maybe

Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 02:27 PM (J4Dwc)

45 So CBD has reduced FWBs to pan tees.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 02:27 PM (3UbC6)

46 I'm very proud of my sharpened stubby tees.

Please clap.
Posted by: Doof

You need to repaint them completely, so they look clean!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 02:27 PM (NnhvP)

47 Don't need no tee's mate...

Posted by: Dame Laura Davies at July 19, 2026 02:27 PM (3sXRv)

48 I'm finding my biggest challenge in golf these days is the bending over and getting the ball to balance on the tee, especially the wood tees I've been finding. I think it's the depth, and paint. Or maybe me.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 02:27 PM (sl73Y)

49 Thank you Mr. Doof for FWP thread.

Greetings Horde - hope everyone is well!

Well, I'm back from Yosemite! The park was beautiful as always. I encourage anyone with the ability and opportunity to experience it to do so at least once. If you're able to get off the beaten path, even better.

We had a great time with extended family group ranging in age from mopey 19 yo to wheelchair bound 95 yo.

As far as FWPs there were a number of disappointments. I'll probably detail them in a longer screed but the parks lodging/food concessionaire is doing a very poor job. There was just systemic poor execution of basic responsibilities. Like no ice for days in the park stores. Telling occupants of the Curry Village cabins that quiet time starts at 10 PM while a raucous party was occurring in the nearby employee housing. There is much more but I'll save it for now.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 19, 2026 02:29 PM (QGaXH)

50 Aberdeen, in Scotland, ... Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, ...will be opening up the North Sea Oil! - Rumor is he's going to chuck the windmills too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 02:31 PM (3oLMy)

51 39 Have a spring in the middle of the tee that bends, like a spring door stop.
Posted by: Rex B at July 19, 2026 02:23 PM (R0XxO)

like ...

https://boing.greg.technology

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:32 PM (6wpGE)

52 Pencil sharpen in going into my golf bag. Great idea.

Yes, the great question. How high do I place my ball. It turns out, it's not the height of the ball, it's the depth of the swing.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 02:32 PM (qFwJc)

53 You should have children playing here! You should have families having picnics, you should have a goddamn petting zoo! Instead you've got these stupid electric carts for you old men with nothing better to do!
Posted by: Bill Foster at July 19, 2026 02

Fine with all of this as long as we can play right through, you get bonked you get bonked. No penalty. More fun. Targets even.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 02:33 PM (sl73Y)

54 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 02:31 PM (3oLMy)

This is a light-hearted thread. Keep the news for serious threads.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 02:34 PM (l4RKn)

55 As sign I recently saw: Please do not use metal tees. They damage our mower blades.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 02:36 PM (qFwJc)

56 A good rule of thumb for the driver is when placing it behind the teed ball, the top of the driver should bisect the equator of the ball.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 02:36 PM (J4Dwc)

57 naturalfake , I was reminded this morning that the US is one of the few countries in the world that takes the right of personal property seriously.

Fine them, fine. Confiscate everything? That is tyranny.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 02:39 PM (qFwJc)

58 56 A good rule of thumb for the driver is when placing it behind the teed ball, the top of the driver should bisect the equator of the ball.
Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 02:36 PM (J4Dwc)
How can one see the equator with all those little craters?

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 02:39 PM (LHPAg)

59 51 39 Have a spring in the middle of the tee that bends, like a spring door stop.
Posted by: Rex B at July 19, 2026 02:23 PM (R0XxO)

like ...

https://boing.greg.technology
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:32 PM (6wpGE)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 02:27 PM (3UbC6)

; )

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:39 PM (6wpGE)

60 "top of the driver should bisect the equator of the ball."

If I could only get my mind and muscles to obey me?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 02:40 PM (qFwJc)

61 good rule of thumb for the driver is when placing it behind the teed ball, the top of the driver should bisect the equator of the ball.
Posted by: one hour sober at July

Never golfed at the equator, think it would be way too hot.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 02:41 PM (sl73Y)

62 Skip has FWPs! From the Tech Thread:

36 On tech problems. Yesterday on long drive listened to podcast on my phone all the way. Got there and phone decided it didn't accept mobile data. Nothing was turned off and didn't get back on line until got home WiFi. Maybe if I coould restart it might have fixed it but I can't turn my phone off ond on. Its a non woking button issue.
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:03 AM (Ia/+0)

149 Phone still has no mobile data available
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:26 AM (Ia/+0)

172 Getting a new Crome update available since yesterday yet can't figure out how to update, wonder if thats its problem
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:46 AM (Ia/+0)

First, go to Settings. My icon looks like a Mercedes logo with gear teeth. If it isn't on one of your main screens, there are two ways to get it. One is to swipe up on your main screen to show all installed apps, and then you can hold and drag Settings onto your main screen (or just open it). The other is to swipe down for the comm summary, then swipe down again for quick settings like Mobile Data and Airplane Mode, and tap the little unlabeled gear icon in the lower right.

~ cont. ~

Posted by: SciVo at July 19, 2026 02:41 PM (Sy6m/)

63 ~ cont. ~

In Settings, scroll to the bottom, and Software Update is where you can manually trigger a check for updates and install a downloaded update. Take care of that first.

If Mobile Data is on, Airplane Mode is off, your software is updated, and you're still not connected, then go back to Settings. Find System near the bottom and tap Reset Options. Make sure you have your Wi-Fi password handy -- I'm not sure if you'll need to re-enter it, but this is a bit of a nuclear option for when all else has failed -- then "Reset network settings."

Posted by: SciVo at July 19, 2026 02:41 PM (Sy6m/)

64 46 I'm very proud of my sharpened stubby tees.

Please clap.
Posted by: Doof

I think this is a terrible idea.

Posted by: Tiny Dracula at July 19, 2026 02:42 PM (XE5AP)

65 Bill Foster, take your kids to a park. My green fees pay the wages of the workers that keep these venues so beautiful.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 02:43 PM (qFwJc)

66 Among Us has turned into a cash machine

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 02:43 PM (GbONR)

67 46 I'm very proud of my sharpened stubby tees.

Please clap.
Posted by: Doof

Shut up, this will save me a lot of work.

Posted by: Tiny Vincent Price, in the tiny remake of Last Man on Earth at July 19, 2026 02:44 PM (XE5AP)

68 No........
Never reset network settings. No. Just no.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 02:45 PM (sl73Y)

69 A faulty workman blames his tools.
And I'm saddened beyond belief that Doof suffers from Low Tee.

Posted by: Bigg Farma at July 19, 2026 02:46 PM (JM9I6)

70 "Sharpened stubby tees?" Please tell me that it's not about me.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 02:46 PM (qFwJc)

71 I thought they made nylon tees. Or, are they generally banned because they chew up lawn blades?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 19, 2026 02:47 PM (diia5)

72 I've been teed off all weekend. This thread is not helping.

Posted by: Thanks Doof at July 19, 2026 02:47 PM (JM9I6)

73
We were in Scotland a couple of weeks ago ago,
And decided to take a look at St Andrew's.

It is a very modest looking place. Sort of like a well-groomed nine hole golf course.

From what I could see, it didn't look particularly difficult buuuuut things might look quite different when you're teeing off.

Welp, save your pennies and maybe you can have a great Scottish weekend with golf at St Andrew's and salmon fishing in Scottish streams.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 02:48 PM (iJfKG)

74 I see at least 11 bogies in that top photo. Are those 3rd world tees?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 02:49 PM (sYM3s)

75 SciVo
Nothing of that seems amiss, have on schedule automatic shutdown 2 days a week and restart,but haven't found where I did that yet

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 02:49 PM (Ia/+0)

76 Welp, save your pennies and maybe you can have a great Scottish weekend with golf at St Andrew's and salmon fishing in Scottish streams.
Posted by: naturalfake

Yes, but have you gone Salmon Fishing in the Yemen?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 19, 2026 02:49 PM (diia5)

77 btw, I am not going out with the St. Anne golf group tomorrow to play Hartsville Country Club. I love the venue. I don't care about the cost. But c'mon man, I am not paying money to be miserable. It's just too hot.

Maybe I will go bowling.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 02:50 PM (qFwJc)

78 Hard to burn the golf course down.

Tactical nuke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2026 02:50 PM (zZu0s)

79 Oooh...World Cup Finals is getting a flyover. Trump is there!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 02:50 PM (l4RKn)

80 74 I see at least 11 bogies in that top photo. Are those 3rd world tees?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 02:49 PM (sYM3s)

Cruel.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, with a sand wedge in the bunker at July 19, 2026 02:50 PM (XE5AP)

81
Finished with my assignment. There was a Boston Terrier supported entry. Every damn class had some piece of junk to present as a trophy. Usually these are small. Today's were large.

At Best of Breed there were trophies for Best of Breed, Best of Opposite, Select Dog, Select Bitch and Best Owner-Handled. There was so much stuff on my table that I had to tell the trophy chair to take it somewhere else and hand it out. Unfortunately, she was nowhere to be seen.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 02:51 PM (UU6Zb)

82 There ain't nothin' stoppin' ya, Bill. Buy up some land, lovingly maintain it, put your petting zoo in there, and let all and sundry frolick on your emerald swards, eat your geese and zoo animals, OD on fent, and shoot each other if it's a hot day.

I don't golf, I don't get the draw of it, but I do understand why they're so nice, as you note - it's because they aren't letting las familias y ninos past the fence.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 02:51 PM (BI5O2)

83 The Paolo, he does not know about, this, how you say, stubby tee.

Posted by: The Paolo at July 19, 2026 02:51 PM (2Ez/1)

84

You must have played the wrong ball somewhere on the 18th fairway. We are playing strict rules, so I'm afraid you lose the hole and the match.

Posted by: Double naught spy at July 19, 2026 02:52 PM (Cqx++)

85 When I think of Scotland and St. Andrew's, I thought of forests.

LOL. What a fool I am. Barren. St. George Utah barren. Just colder, except for maybe today.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 02:53 PM (qFwJc)

86 Never golfed at the equator, think it would be way too hot.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 02:41 PM (sl73Y)

Warlords, hippos, rhinos, pissed off elephants, lions. Hard pass.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 02:53 PM (wOO3z)

87 LOL. What a fool I am. Barren. St. George Utah barren. Just colder, except for maybe today.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 02:53 PM (qFwJc)

It's because of all the Haggis roaming around on the barren crags and tarns.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, with a sand wedge in the bunker at July 19, 2026 02:54 PM (XE5AP)

88 It's because of all the Haggis roaming around on the barren crags and tarns.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, with a sand wedge in the bunker at July 19, 2026 02:54 PM (XE5AP)

Are you casting aspersions on Haggis?

It's delicious!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 02:56 PM (l4RKn)

89
A zillion years ago when I played golf, one of our foursome had had a string of bad holes. He came fuming up to the next tee, set up and was ready to swing. I said quietly, "You're in front of the markers."

He turned, looked, slammed his club into the ground, reset, swung and drove his shot into the pond next to the fairway. I felt like I'd been on vacation for three weeks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 02:56 PM (UU6Zb)

90 Is today the last game of the Men's Metric Kickball competition?

Posted by: I gotta ask at July 19, 2026 02:57 PM (2Ez/1)

91 Yes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 02:58 PM (wOO3z)

92 Nice idea for broken golf tees. But I still discard them after I break them.

Speaking of golf, I am getting back into the game.
There is a driving range near me where I can hit a bucket of balls and 2 nice golf courses.
I also can take the drive out to Long Island and play Bethpage and its 5 courses.

I am also going to look at replacing my clubs. I have had my irons since the early 90's. My driver and 3 wood since the 2010's.
Of course what ever I get will be fitted to me.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 02:58 PM (dZE4s)

93 >>I don't golf, I don't get the draw of it

It’s a slice of life for those who play

Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 02:58 PM (J4Dwc)

94 61 good rule of thumb for the driver is when placing it behind the teed ball, the top of the driver should bisect the equator of the ball.
Posted by: one hour sober at July

Never golfed at the equator, think it would be way too hot.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 02:41 PM (sl73Y)

I recall Ralphie's Dad claimed his car would freeze up in the middle of July at the equator....that probably qualifies as an obsolete FWP with the introduction of antifreeze and closed pressurized cooling systems.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 19, 2026 02:58 PM (QGaXH)

95 Then fades away when you get old

Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 02:59 PM (J4Dwc)

96 84

You must have played the wrong ball somewhere on the 18th fairway. We are playing strict rules, so I'm afraid you lose the hole and the match.
Posted by: Double naught spy at July 19, 2026 02:52 PM (Cqx++)
I play a Slazenger.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 02:59 PM (LHPAg)

97 >I don't golf, I don't get the draw of it

It’s a slice of life for those who play
Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 02:58 PM (J4Dwc)

Its difficult. The motion is unnatural. Works odd muscles. It is fun to test yourself against something so unforgiving. You are outside. Its quietish with some buddies. It feels really good to hit a difficult shot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2026 03:01 PM (zZu0s)

98
There's a bathroom wall in my mother's house that has defied every attempt to support a towel rack. A lousy towel rack.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 03:02 PM (mmrXZ)

99 Its difficult. The motion is unnatural. Works odd muscles. It is fun to test yourself against something so unforgiving. You are outside. Its quietish with some buddies. It feels really good to hit a difficult shot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 19, 2026 03:01 PM (zZu0s)

It is what the Scots went to after they realized that self-flagellation was not working

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 03:02 PM (rbvCR)

100 In another 1WP trying a experiment I kind of wanted to do with gasoline quality. It would be a waste in a truck, but in a SUV might prove something. So except for initial fill up, been putting in middle grade. Srems already it says mpg has gone up
But will track gallons and miles for a while and see.
Quite a difference having a 10 gallon tank and trucks 35 gallon

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 03:02 PM (Ia/+0)

101 Select Bitch
Used to date her

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 19, 2026 03:03 PM (5Tbx2)

102 I really like that all the Argentinians are singing their national anthem instead of barely mumbling along or not singing at all like American sports all athletes.

Good for them.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 03:03 PM (iJfKG)

103 I used to play golf with a guy we called a Helicopter Pilot. When he made a bad shot he would throw his club so that it made a wop-wop helicopter sound.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 19, 2026 03:03 PM (4NO2D)

104 86 Never golfed at the equator, think it would be way too hot.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 19, 2026 02:41 PM (sl73Y)

----------

FUN FACT: If your equator course has a fairway that faces west, you'll find that your drives go farther due to the rotation of the Earf.

'Tis science

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 03:03 PM (9nUTf)

105 There's a bathroom wall in my mother's house that has defied every attempt to support a towel rack. A lousy towel rack.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 03:02 PM (mmrXZ)

I saw the neatest thing, a multi rack towel warmer.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 03:03 PM (rbvCR)

106 I really like that all the Argentinians are singing their national anthem instead of barely mumbling along or not singing at all like American sports all athletes.

Good for them.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 03:03 PM (iJfKG)

That is because they can't pronounce all the words in the English song, "We Are Going To Cut Your Tonkers Off" to intimidate the English team and fans.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 03:05 PM (rbvCR)

107 Blond Morticia its a shame she doesn't live near me, I am if nothing else a professional carpenter.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 03:05 PM (Ia/+0)

108 I used to play golf with a guy we called a Helicopter Pilot. When he made a bad shot he would throw his club so that it made a wop-wop helicopter sound.
Posted by: toby928(c)

Sounds like my uncle.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 03:05 PM (wOO3z)

109 I saw the neatest thing, a multi rack towel warmer.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 03:03 PM (rbvCR)

Warm towels on a cold day is true decadence.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 03:06 PM (l4RKn)

110
I recall Ralphie's Dad claimed his car would freeze up in the middle of July at the equator....that probably qualifies as an obsolete FWP with the introduction of antifreeze and closed pressurized cooling systems.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue
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"He worked in profanity the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It was his true medium; a master."

"In the heat of battle my father wove a tapestry of obscenities that as far as we know is still hanging in space over Lake Michigan."

Posted by: Ralphie at July 19, 2026 03:06 PM (XeU6L)

111 "you'll find that your drives go farther due to the rotation of the Earf."

BS. Great fun. try throwing a baseball either way on a moving train.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 03:06 PM (qFwJc)

112 I’d play golf exactly one time with Helicopter Pilot.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 03:07 PM (J4Dwc)

113 My FWP is that it's 88F and rising, I'm in my underpants, waiting for the world cup and I'm running of gin and tonic

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 03:07 PM (sYM3s)

114 "He worked in profanity the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It was his true medium; a master."

"In the heat of battle my father wove a tapestry of obscenities that as far as we know is still hanging in space over Lake Michigan."
Posted by: Ralphie at July 19, 2026 03:06 PM

Oh Fudge...

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 19, 2026 03:07 PM (4NO2D)

115 I actually have a couple old golf clubs. Thought often would be fun just going to a driving range.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 03:07 PM (Ia/+0)

116
Select Bitch
Used to date her

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 19, 2026 03:03 PM (5Tbx2)

____________

A dog show is a place where you can say, "Wow! That bitch has a fabulous rear" and nobody blinks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 03:08 PM (UU6Zb)

117 Gene Shepherd. One of my older brothers thought he was great.

"A Christmas Story" is funny, amusing, and sad that people live in Shitcago and suffer the cold, cold, cold.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 03:08 PM (qFwJc)

118 This always kinda, in a macabre way, makes me laugh. According to Sports Statistics:

"Emergency rooms across the country treat an average of over 30,000 to 40,000 golf-related injuries every year."

______________________________

Now, here's the best part. Of those 30,000 to 40,000 E/R visits, only 16% are related to getting hit by a ball. That means 84% of E/R visits (this doesn't even include injuries that didn't result in an E/R visit) are because of some other injury acquired on the golf course. I suspect drunken golf cart incidents or getting hammered by aloof guy swinging a club lead the pack. But, fights have to figure into the mix....not to mention Gavin Newsom's wife being in the area.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 03:09 PM (dIske)

119 "A Christmas Story" is funny, amusing, and sad that people live in Shitcago and suffer the cold, cold, cold.

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And then there are all the bullets in the spring and summer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 03:09 PM (9nUTf)

120 Right now, the biggest golf-related ER visits might just be heat exhaustion.

Seriously. I "played" twice last week. I feel like I aged a year. No. Not doing that again.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 03:11 PM (qFwJc)

121 FWP: When you go to the club and realize that your clubs are out-dated and not this year's model.

I've bought my last set of clubs. Ever. The problem with my game is not the clubs.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 03:11 PM (sYM3s)

122 In your underpants waiting for a soccer game and running out of gin is no way to go through life, son.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at July 19, 2026 03:12 PM (2Ez/1)

123 34 A golf irritation is like the pinnacle of FWPs.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 02:17 PM (kpS4V)

So you're saying I outdid CBD on my first try?
Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 02:21 PM (QMAsf)

Doof, your first FWP? You're a natural.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:12 PM (6wpGE)

124 P.G. Wodehouse quotes re golf:

https://shorturl.at/L1IMy

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 03:13 PM (XeU6L)

125 Running out of gin at a soccer game is a serious problem.

But overdoing is too. There was the time I smuggled a bottle of Barcardi 151 into a Royals games.

Too much fun.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 03:14 PM (qFwJc)

126 I've bought my last set of clubs. Ever. The problem with my game is not the clubs.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

Prezactly my problem.

Posted by: MkY at July 19, 2026 03:15 PM (q6tQZ)

127 It was fun. Just buy Cokes.

I should have shared it more generously.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 03:16 PM (qFwJc)

128 Wodehouse forgot that golf teaches humility.

Posted by: MkY at July 19, 2026 03:17 PM (q6tQZ)

129 Argentina or Spain?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:17 PM (6wpGE)

130 119 "A Christmas Story" is funny, amusing, and sad that people live in Shitcago and suffer the cold, cold, cold.

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And then there are all the bullets in the spring and summer.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 03:09 PM (9nUTf)

In the movie Ralphie identifies the town he lives in. I forget the name but it's not Chicago. Somewhere in Indiana I think.

His dad reads a news story about a 'clodhopper' down in Terre Haute.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 19, 2026 03:18 PM (QGaXH)

131 Hey, this has given me an idea.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2026 03:18 PM (afFes)

132 131 Hey, this has given me an idea.
Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2026 03:18 PM (afFes)

uh-oh

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:19 PM (6wpGE)

133 It's funny because it was 40 years ago. The Royals won the World Series that year while we lived there.

So many happy memories.

Did I tell you the Total Eclipse of the Sun came here and all we had to do was sit in plastic Adirondack chairs on the driveway and enjoy it?

No Lear Jets involved.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 03:19 PM (qFwJc)

134 122 In your underpants waiting for a soccer game and running out of gin is no way to go through life, son.
Posted by: Dean Wormer at July 19, 2026 03:12 PM (2Ez/1)

So....lose the underpants...?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 19, 2026 03:20 PM (QGaXH)

135 121 FWP: When you go to the club and realize that your clubs are out-dated and not this year's model.

I've bought my last set of clubs. Ever. The problem with my game is not the clubs.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 03:11 PM (sYM3s)

I have yet to buy my own clubs. The set I use (Lynx) was a Christmas gift from my brothers back in 2008, combined with a Big Bertha driver I got as my 15th Anniversary gift from CompUSA, plus a putter, sand wedge and another driver acquired from my Dad over the years. If I ever get the time to start playing as much as my brothers and Dad does, maybe I'll buy a new set....possibly even some fairway woods.

Posted by: goozer at July 19, 2026 03:20 PM (eTh1u)

136 Bluebell -
Sent you an email.
To the cookbook account.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 03:21 PM (2Ez/1)

137 No Lear Jets involved.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 03:19 PM (qFwJc)

You're where you should be all the time.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, with a sand wedge in the bunker at July 19, 2026 03:21 PM (XE5AP)

138 Saw it, QT! Just waiting for permission.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2026 03:22 PM (afFes)

139 Check me if I'm wrong Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers, they're gonna lock me up and throw away the key

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 03:22 PM (X/MmC)

140 How did I get to be a community laughing stock?

Posted by: Clodhopper From Terre Haute at July 19, 2026 03:23 PM (JM9I6)

141 Last night soccer game between England and France was just insane.

Defense? what's that?

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 03:23 PM (iJfKG)

142 Argentina or Spain?
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:17 PM (6wpGE)

My mistake. Upper Gibralter v Lower Brazil.

Spain may do better, now that Jose de San Martin is no longer leading the Argies

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 03:23 PM (rbvCR)

143 *You're where you should be all the time.*
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I know someone who got their name because of a Carly Simon song.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 03:23 PM (2Ez/1)

144 138 Saw it, QT! Just waiting for permission.
Posted by: bluebell
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Thanks.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 03:24 PM (2Ez/1)

145 You're where you should be all the time.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, with a sand wedge in the bunker at July 19, 2026 03:21 PM (XE5AP)

I wish someone had told my mom that.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 03:24 PM (rbvCR)

146 143 *You're where you should be all the time.*
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I know someone who got their name because of a Carly Simon song.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 03:23 PM (2Ez/1)

Gavotte?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:24 PM (6wpGE)

147 What brand of underpants?

Posted by: And, Boxers Or Briefs? at July 19, 2026 03:25 PM (JM9I6)

148 129 Argentina or Spain?
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:17 PM (6wpGE)
___________________________

Definitely Argentina. Normally I couldn't care less. However, all the lefty rags are coming out directly and saying you should want Spain to win because the fans from Argentina are conceited and rude. The NY Times did a big story requesting everyone cheer for Spain.

I suspect their basis is more related to Milei and the politics of each of those two nations.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 03:25 PM (dIske)

149 I know someone who got their name because of a Carly Simon song.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 03:23 PM (2Ez/1)

Is that where So-Vain McGruder got his name?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 03:25 PM (rbvCR)

150
Blond Morticia its a shame she doesn't live near me, I am if nothing else a professional carpenter.
Posted by: Skip

==============

That is a shame. I think one of the problems is that she keeps getting A Guy With A Better Idea Than The Last One to try to hang one. She just won't spring for a carpenter. And if you were here , skip , it would definitely be you.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 03:26 PM (mmrXZ)

151 147 What brand of underpants?
Posted by: And, Boxers Or Briefs? at July 19, 2026 03:25 PM
*******
Duluth Buck Naked.

Posted by: Big Ballroom at July 19, 2026 03:27 PM (2Ez/1)

152 143 *You're where you should be all the time.*
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I know someone who got their name because of a Carly Simon song.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 03:23 PM (2Ez/1)

Jesse?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 19, 2026 03:28 PM (QGaXH)

153 Is that a broken golf tee in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

Posted by: Sidney Sweeny at July 19, 2026 03:28 PM (NeM+a)

154 Is that where So-Vain McGruder got his name?
Posted by: Kindltot

She was referring to me.

Posted by: Anticipation Jones at July 19, 2026 03:29 PM (JM9I6)

155 I need a nap. But don't want to as should goto bed early as need to get up and out early tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 03:29 PM (Ia/+0)

156 El Presidente is at the WC with Melania.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 03:29 PM (hftzA)

157 Argentina has Spain right where it wants them...slow, no chance 1st half.

Argentina has the world's best scoring subs and tends to play great at minute 70 onward. I swear they let Messi just jog most of the 1st half and play in a shell, so they can save him for those subs...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 03:31 PM (tOcjL)

158 154 Is that where So-Vain McGruder got his name?
Posted by: Kindltot

She was referring to me.
Posted by: Anticipation Jones at July 19, 2026 03:29 PM (JM9I6)

So many great answers to that post!

My FWP was missing this place all last week even though Yosemite was great despite FWPs alluded to in my earlier post.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 19, 2026 03:31 PM (QGaXH)

159 then put the top part of the tee into your pocket to use on a Par 3 or a short Par 4 when you're using a 3W or 5W. But you break several more tees before you get a chance to use one of the handful of salvaged stubbies that you kept. So you end up with a collection that looks something like this.

I've been doing this for years, minus the sharpening of the ends. I also have so many golf balls that I found while looking for a sliced, pulled, hooked, pushed, golf shot, that I won't need to buy golf balls for years. Same for tees. I always find tees that are fine, they just flew when the golfer hit and then couldn't find the tee. I am a scavenger golfer.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 19, 2026 03:32 PM (sAmhv)

160 I loved that one play a little while ago when the one guy kicked the ball to another guy and then that guy kicked the ball to another guy and then THAT guy kicked the ball sorta kinda in the direction of the goal but then the other team had a guy there who kicked the ball to a guy and that that guy kicked the ball toward 2 guys of opposing teams. I was on the edge of my seat waiting to see which team's guy would get to kick it out of bounds!

What a beautiful game!

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 03:33 PM (QMAsf)

161 So is Mick Jagger.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 03:33 PM (hftzA)

162 Yo! Semite!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 19, 2026 03:34 PM (wjP5W)

163 I am ignoring you, Doof.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 03:35 PM (hftzA)

164 Doof, your first FWP? You're a natural.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:12 PM (6wpGE)

Thanks! Maybe I'll do another one some time. I do have lots of FWPs!

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 03:36 PM (QMAsf)

165 163 I am ignoring you, Doof.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 03:35 PM

Oof, Doof is in the doggo house.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 03:37 PM (dZE4s)

166 129 Argentina or Spain?
Posted by: m

Argentina but only because it will piss off the usual suspects. I'm watching the British Open and racing at North Wilkesboro. I work all weekend so I'm catching up right now.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 19, 2026 03:37 PM (sAmhv)

167 I am ignoring you, Doof.
Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 03:35 PM (hftzA)

Because you know I am not wrong!

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 03:38 PM (QMAsf)

168 Useable for sure. But they're ugly! So what to do if you have OCD and don't want jagged stubby tees?

Quit golfing, throw all your golf clubs, tee, balls away...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 03:38 PM (l3cgK)

169 166 129 Argentina or Spain?
Posted by: m

Argentina but only because it will piss off the usual suspects. I'm watching the British Open and racing at North Wilkesboro. I work all weekend so I'm catching up right now.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 19, 2026 03:37 PM (sAmhv)

Watch the Open to the end...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2026 03:39 PM (tOcjL)

170 A golf irritation is like the pinnacle of FWPs.7
Posted by: All Hail Eris

So you're saying I outdid CBD on my first try?
Posted by: Doof

It's a bit odd that you included the solution in the Content.

And that it didn't involve fire.

Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2026 03:40 PM (VHUov)

171 Wodehouse forgot that golf teaches humility.
Posted by: MkY
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"Confidence, of course is an admirable asset to a golfer, but it should be an unspoken confidence. It is perilous to put it into speech. The gods of golf lie in wait to chasten the presumptious."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 03:41 PM (XeU6L)

172 Hey Doof, there are a couple of golf courses near where we will be in October.

I can always throw my clubs into the back of the Jeep and we can do a round. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 03:41 PM (dZE4s)

173 167 I am ignoring you, Doof.
Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 03:35 PM (hftzA)

Because you know I am not wrong!
Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 03:38 PM (QMAsf)

If you don't want to watch the WC, Movies! Channel is showing Ricky and Lucy in 'The Long Long Trailer'. That will be me and Mrs next month....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 19, 2026 03:42 PM (QGaXH)

174 Well Hell! There's your problem. Your using Callaways.
Switch to Pinnacle and your game will improve.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 03:42 PM (2WIwB)

175 Hey Doof, there are a couple of golf courses near where we will be in October.

I can always throw my clubs into the back of the Jeep and we can do a round. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 03:41 PM (dZE4s)

Set it up! I'd love to play some mediocre golf with you.

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 03:43 PM (QMAsf)

176 >>Quit golfing, throw all your golf clubs, tee, balls away...

Take the balls to a shooting range, toss them out there at about a hundred yards and let fly the .223/5.56 rounds at them

Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 03:44 PM (J4Dwc)

177 Eubull? Eubull ong to me?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:45 PM (6wpGE)

178 In the movie Ralphie identifies the town he lives in. I forget the name but it's not Chicago. Somewhere in Indiana I think.
------

Ironically, it was filmed in Toronto, I think.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 03:45 PM (XeU6L)

179 >>>What a beautiful game!

Posted by: Doof

>You forgot when they flop like Lebron James and grab their shin and nobody even touched their shin.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 03:48 PM (sYM3s)

180 El Presidente is at the WC with Melania.
Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 03:29 PM (hftzA)

WC = Water Closet; i.e. the toilet?!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 03:48 PM (P6E1+)

181 THIS is interesting, if true!

Anonymous Israeli intelligence sources are telling journalists that Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei is "not in Iran."

Also, Israel says it regards the fall of Iranian missile debris near Eilat as an act of war.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 03:50 PM (RCjYY)

182 FWP: When you go to the club and realize that your clubs are out-dated and not this year's model.

I've bought my last set of clubs. Ever. The problem with my game is not the clubs.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 03:11 PM (sYM3s)

***

A couple years ago I was playing at a really nice course in Virginia. Using a caddy was required. I asked.for my driver and the guy started laughing. Said my driver (Great Big Bertha) was an antique. It was about 15 years old. So I went down and got a new driver. Jeez! The technology is incredible. You still gotta swing the damn thing, but the club sure does make a difference.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 03:51 PM (2WIwB)

183 175 Set it up! I'd love to play some mediocre golf with you.

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 03:43 PM

Ok, I am getting there late Thursday, but I think I can push it up a day.

Will get back to you on it.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 03:53 PM (dZE4s)

184 If you have only an hour to live, watch a soccer game. It’ll seem like a month.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 03:54 PM (J4Dwc)

185 Instead you've got these stupid electric carts for you old men with nothing better to do!
Posted by: Bill Foster at July 19, 2026 02:21 PM (45BvE)

Hey!!!
I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 03:54 PM (2WIwB)

186 The future is plastic.

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 19, 2026 03:56 PM (TezPK)

187 Half time. No score.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2026 03:56 PM (Dd38x)

188 184 If you have only an hour to live, watch a soccer game. It’ll seem like a month.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 03:54 PM

Naah, the last 10 minutes of a basketball game grants you eternity.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 03:56 PM (dZE4s)

189 I missed most of the book thread, just went back now and saw Donna&&&'s devastating news.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 19, 2026 03:57 PM (0JWOm)

190 Only good thing a golf tee is good for is plugging holes in wooden boats & the course makes a good motorcycle riding place.

Posted by: Bob at July 19, 2026 03:57 PM (cNhbl)

191 but the club sure does make a difference.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Preach it brother!

Posted by: Michael Skakel at July 19, 2026 03:58 PM (XeU6L)

192 golf:

Barstool Sports
@barstoolsports
2h
Clutch: Ryan Fox Catches Absolute Fire Down The Stretch, Is Complete Nails And Drills A Putt On 18 To Pull Out An Insane Win At The Open

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:59 PM (6wpGE)

193 I enjoyed doing this FWP thread. Hopefully I'll get to do another!

See some of you for the ONT later!

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 03:59 PM (QMAsf)

194 Naah, the last 10 minutes of a basketball game grants you eternity.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 19, 2026 03:56 PM (dZE4s)

*nods knowingly*

Posted by: Dean Smith-era UNC Tarheel fan at July 19, 2026 03:59 PM (B0NCh)

195 193 I enjoyed doing this FWP thread. Hopefully I'll get to do another!

See some of you for the ONT later!
Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2026 03:59 PM (QMAsf)

Thanks for hanging around and jabbering with us!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:01 PM (6wpGE)

196 FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 04:01 PM (Ia/+0)

197 Thankfully, I've immune to finding out who won events I'm currently catching up on. My work schedule makes it impossible to NOT find out winners/losers, scores, etc, because it's the internet age. It's just out there. I don't worry about it and watch anyway. I like Ryan Fox so good for him. Good to see somebody else and not the usual suspects. Been a while since New Zealand had a major champion.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 19, 2026 04:02 PM (sAmhv)

198 You, too, CBD!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:02 PM (6wpGE)

199 The LocateTrump.com website says Trump was in LA yesterday but does not state where he is today. The website seems anti-Trump (they use an unflattering image of him) but does not have much in the way of propaganda, other than a meter of what % of his time has been spent golfing. Current reading is 16%, which does not bother me at all.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 19, 2026 04:03 PM (P6E1+)

200 200

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:03 PM (6wpGE)

201 Was out earlier trimming fronds from my sabal palms. Had no idea paper wasps can live in those trees. Got stung on the cheek. Think I’ll hire someone to finish the job.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 19, 2026 04:04 PM (J4Dwc)

202 Just got here. Thanks Doof. I'm not the only one who picks up broken tees to use on par 3's. I'm sure this comment will be willowed.

Posted by: Indiana Lurker at July 19, 2026 04:10 PM (3ZVqj)

203 196 FOOD NOOD
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 04:01 PM (Ia/+0)

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:11 PM (6wpGE)

204 I got distracted with a phone call.

Yes, the correct answer for the Carly Simon song is "Jesse."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 04:45 PM (2Ez/1)

205 Or you could use plastic tees.

Posted by: Tommy Shanks at July 20, 2026 06:10 AM (KDpmu)

206 Hit the BALL, not the TEE. And don't play Callaway balls. Play a big boy ball like Titleist. Jeesh.

Posted by: Indy Bill at July 20, 2026 10:15 AM (a1sX2)

207 not a sport.
those tees, broken or not, make great vacuum hose plugs.

Posted by: cmeat at July 20, 2026 01:32 PM (R11M+)

Physical Deportation Is The First Step, And Cutting Illegals Off From Our Society Is The Next Step!

Going after violent illegals is an absolutely necessary first step in cleansing our country of the scourge of uncontrolled illegal immigration. Traffic stops, chasing them on foot, or if necessary breaking down doors at 3:00AM and dragging them to a waiting flight to Sh*tcanistan is something that the American people will support.

But the huge numbers of illegals in our country make physical deportation a long and complex process. Luckily, there are other ways! As I wrote a few days ago, going after their employers, starting with the biggest companies will make huge inroads into the illegal population by denying them the ability to steal Americans' identities and undercut their price for labor.

And there is more! Lax enforcement of existing laws, and banks that chased their business have allowed illegals to enter our financial systems, with credit cards, bank accounts, auto and home loans, etc.

Will the administration end that? It sure sounds like they are beginning to take it seriously, or at least paying some attention!

Stephen Miller says Trump administration is pursuing policy to debank illegal immigrants

"President Trump signed an executive order a few weeks ago saying that we are not going to allow illegal aliens to use banking services in this country," Miller said.
"Illegal aliens have credit cards, they have bank accounts and they're paid with direct deposit. So, illegal aliens fully participate in the commercial systems, the financial systems of America. Shutting that down is a massive engine for deportation."
Miller was likely referring to an executive order Trump signed on May 19 that directed banks and federal regulators to increase scrutiny of accounts and credit applications involving immigrants without legal status or work authorization.
The order did not explicitly instruct banks to deny credit cards or bank accounts to illegal immigrants, but compliance with it could make it more difficult for them to participate in the financial system.
Federal agencies have already begun acting on Trump's executive order.

Executive orders are a stopgap measure. But it is a start. The real teeth will come if the various banking regulators demand that banks positively identify all account holders, and verify that their identification is not fraudulent or stolen. As I mentioned on Thursday, "E-Verify" needs to be improved, because we are our own worst enemy. But forcing the issue and making financial institutions take seriously the identification regulations would go a long way toward pushing illegals back to their home countries. If they can't easily open bank accounts or cash checks or buy cars or get an account with the electric company, their lives will become much more difficult.

And that is the goal! We have made their lives effortless for too long. It is time to push them back into the shadows, and make every interaction with the legal financial world a risk.

Debanking is an excellent start.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 Good afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 I will go nood the Bookworms

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2026 12:02 PM (InJki)

3 Block their gd transfer payments.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:02 PM (RCjYY)

4 Deporting is goal but keeping them out afterwards is the problem.
In theory I am to believe, a second offense is a serious charge . Yet keep hearing some have been deported multiple times

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:02 PM (Ia/+0)

5 Effortless?
one or two steps better, I would go with "subsidized".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (VyBeY)

6 Nooded.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (InJki)

7 Big employers are the key. Every meat-packing plant (which are a cartel) should be hammered. Tyson Foods (Dresden, Mo, anyone?) should be hammered.
Lower housing prices, raise wages, break up the "trusts".

Posted by: MkY at July 19, 2026 12:05 PM (q6tQZ)

8 If we could get all 50 states and DC to cut off medicaid and other federal government services like snap, direct welfare payments and the EIC/child care tax payments for the one's who work with an ITN they would almost all self deport.

Problem is that is never going to happen.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 12:06 PM (0N4FZ)

9 BTW, what happened to the idea that the USDA shouldn't have to sign off on every beef butchered?
Do we still need a USDA inspector in every butchering house?
I don't know.

Posted by: MkY at July 19, 2026 12:06 PM (q6tQZ)

10 they're paid with direct deposit.

For example: all monies from government entities.

Stop feeding our invaders.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:07 PM (NnhvP)

11 Taxing remittances needs to be the law.

Posted by: huerfano at July 19, 2026 12:08 PM (VJX5o)

12 BBC

Health officials identify source of US explosive diarrhoea outbreak
38 minutes ago

A sample of iceberg lettuce from the food supplier Taylor Farms has tested positive for the parasite that caused an explosive diarrhoea outbreak affecting thousands of people in the US, officials said.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said that Taylor Farms, which supplies the Taco Bell food chain, had confirmed the sample was taken from a product not part of its current recall announced on Friday.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 12:09 PM (6wpGE)

13 I always thought the notion that Americans are financially obligated to support illegal aliens in public schools was one of the worst possible decisions they could possibly make. Coupled with the fairy tale “birthright citizenship” nonsense, it matters not what the laws say. It’s a losing battle. Plyler vs. whatever.

If you want to deconstruct society, this is how you do it. Maybe you think this is a good idea, but it’s illegal as hell. “Judges” have largely been the ruin of this nation, arguably. Experts, the “best and brightest”, Ivy League spooks, good old boys from Deah Old Hahvahd.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:09 PM (OPIYi)

14 4

Entry Without Inspection (EWI) is a federal misdemeanor. "Entry Without Inspection Pursuant to a Prior Order of Deportation" (i.e., a second offense) CAN be charged as a felony, but rarely is.

I assume Trump's DOJ is cracking down on repeat illegal alien offenders now.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:10 PM (RCjYY)

15 > Stephen Miller says Trump administration is pursuing policy to debank illegal immigrants
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Apparently the range of FedGov entities includes most of the IC as well as all those associated with monetary policy. If it's anywhere as aggressive as I'd hope it'd be it will rile up the left big time.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:10 PM (jehhT)

16 We have made their lives effortless for too long."

Well how else can we get more and more population? After all, all growth is good!

/ chamber of commerce

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (cGjQu)

17 The USDA?

Ever here this one?

A USDA employee arrives at work one morning in DC and finds his office mate in tears, balling his eyes out. The worker says "What's wrong? What happened?

This colleague replies "My farmer died."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (qFwJc)

18 Push 1 for English!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (NnhvP)

19 De-banking is good. The list CBD published the other enforced carte blanche would cause an abject failure to the economy.
There are not people who would take those jobs. In order to replace those jobs with citizens we must stop paying people not to work. Those are the people who would be replacement on CBD's list.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (3oLMy)

20 Does the contamination of Lettuce infiltrate inside the tissue? I would think so in the case of Lettuce, but I don’t really know. In this case washing the exterior of vegetables isn’t going to help.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (OPIYi)

21 Yes, every federally inspected meat plant has government inspectors on site for slaughter operations. Other aspects of processing do not require direct inspection, but require detailed HACCP plans and documentation that are regularly reviewed by USDA.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (kOluj)

22 18 Push 1 for English!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (NnhvP)

Pretty soon they won't even be offering that

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (FtULh)

23 The list CBD published the other day if enforced carte blanche would cause an abject failure to the economy.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:13 PM (3oLMy)

24 Great point CBD. I had never before thought about this aspect of illegal immigration. Now that you bring it up, it’s annoying that they can integrate so easily and seamlessly into our society. Thanks a lot B of A and Chase and Wells Fargo etc….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 12:14 PM (26GAh)

25 The list CBD published the other day if enforced carte blanche would cause an abject failure to the economy.
Posted by: Braenyard

Until those businesses are forced to pay Market wages, Then Americans would take those jobs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:15 PM (NnhvP)

26 I don't even go into my bank anymore... The line is always a mile long and it's not generally English speakers....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 12:15 PM (FtULh)

27 I've got a few ideas.
If you wanna use WallyMart to send remittances to another country it has to be in person (no phone apps) and you have to show a birth certificate every time. And tax it. Tax the hell out of it. Limit it to $1000 a month. Make it painful.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 12:16 PM (2Ez/1)

28 Debanking is an excellent start.

However, we must be realistic. Many, if not most of the banks will fight back by doing whatever they can to subvert the process. Examples must be made. Swords must be shaken, and shields must be splintered.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

29 In order to replace those jobs with citizens we must stop paying people not to work
——

You can see the evil genius at work, if you take the view in from 20,000 feet.

No fucking way could they EVER have imported millions of illegals over the years without a significant portion of the affected people being paid off. And drugged.

We can see descendants of slaves going to bat for hordes of illegals taking jobs, driving up costs, insurance etc.

Union bosses handwaving away millions of imported illegals driving down wages. It’s astonishing really.

Yeah, lots of payola involved.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (OPIYi)

30
This seems too many degrees of separation from deportation.

"Increase scrutiny. " Then what?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (mmrXZ)

31 8

Illegal aliens don't USE ITNs! They make up a SSN instead! Which is also a federal misdemeanor, i.e. "Misuse of a Social Security Number."

The Social Security Administration sends "no match" letters to employers when this happens. That's why employers who hire illegals don't have to buy toilet paper.

Someone mentioned meat packers. Don't forget big, industrial scale bakers, either.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:18 PM (RCjYY)

32 The reason so many illegals came here is we made it easy for them to come here. Walk across the border and you get virtually all the rights and privileges of an American citizen.

Stop making it easy including debanking, food assistance, medical care, jobs, etc. and most will self-deport. And Democrats might not ever win another national election.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:19 PM (viF8m)

33 We have made their lives effortless for too long."

Well how else can we get more and more population? After all, all growth is good!

/ chamber of commerce

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM

The problem with that is they never assimilate and reproduce like rabbits and their kids have the same attitudes. We have some illegals around here that have been in the country illegally for 10-20 years and still don't speak english. That's why pretty much every social service in our county has to have their stuff printed in english and spanish and they have translators on staff.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (0N4FZ)

34 Until those businesses are forced to pay Market wages, Then Americans would take those jobs.

Some will, but there are many Americans who now view a job as optional. The rules must be changed again (back to where they were after the GOP forced reform on Clinton), so that welfare, under whatever guise, is limited in time, and/or available only to the truly needy.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (Riz8t)

35 In the very early 1900's a play started up on Broadway called "The Melting Pot" created by a dramatist named Zangwill. That's how the term wormed its way into the common lexicon and gave the US the reputation of welcoming immigrants, but with the caveat that they must assimilate to create a finished product; An American.

However, the concept failed as the motivations of the new arrivals changed. Now, many new arrivals make every effort to avoid assimilation. Instead, they force their own failed cultural indiosyncracies on established residents. Other motivations are purely personal finances and exploitation. For some it is to eventual absolute dominance and destruction.

Which makes me wonder if the term "Melting pot" is considered bigotry by today's left and their invading minions. Especially since the man that coined the phrase (Zangwill) was Jewish.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (dIske)

36 "Increase scrutiny. " Then what?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (mmrXZ)

Every incremental increase in the difficulty of living in America will push those on the margins to self-deport.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (l4RKn)

37 I always thought the notion that Americans are financially obligated to support illegal aliens in public schools was one of the worst possible decisions they could possibly make"

This. Plyler was a garbage decision.

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (cGjQu)

38 The problem with that is they never assimilate and reproduce like rabbits and their kids have the same attitudes"

This. Try to utilize any kind of service.

Good luck.

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:22 PM (cGjQu)

39 10 they're paid with direct deposit.
For example: all monies from government entities.
Stop feeding our invaders.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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Stop feeding layabout citizens. As their EBT is cut off they can replace the newly deported low echelon workers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:22 PM (3oLMy)

40
Nonsense! Debanking is only to be used on conservatives.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 12:23 PM (UU6Zb)

41 I had an account with US Bank and the front window at a branch I went to advertised accounts could be established with a Matricula Consular. This was an "ID" that was issued by Mexican consulates in the US with next to no or with no documentation. It had as much bono fide support as a AOS moron sockpuppeting BEN ROTHLESBURGER sockpuppeting Mary Clogenstein.

The kicker is the Matricula Consular could not be used as ID in Mexico.

Meanwhile US Bank didn't accept Military ID as an acceptable ID document.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 19, 2026 12:23 PM (47/pr)

42 Stop feeding layabout citizens. As their EBT is cut off they can replace the newly deported low echelon workers.

And to those who then say "that's racist!", I encourage them to contemplate the implications of their statement.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:24 PM (Riz8t)

43
Instead, they force their own failed cultural indiosyncracies on established residents.

____________

Started with the Irish, of course.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 12:24 PM (UU6Zb)

44 Until those businesses are forced to pay Market wages, Then Americans would take those jobs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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Those are jobs for poor people. There are no poor Americans.
The Americans who would otherwise be considered poor are paid to not work; they aren't getting up, leaving their Doritoes and watching the View to go to no damn job.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:25 PM (3oLMy)

45 Debank the banks!

Posted by: Wait A Minute at July 19, 2026 12:26 PM (JM9I6)

46 And to those who then say "that's racist!", I encourage them to contemplate the implications of their statement.

Posted by: Archimedes
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and consider the innumerable counties that have as many 'white folk' on the roles as other

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:27 PM (3oLMy)

47 If the left's various money laundering operations are rolled up, their political violence outfits disbanded, and the number of illegals that remain in the country is reduced to insignificant, a lot of current layabouts are going to either find employment, or leave.

Seeing as how most, if not all of those layabouts are leftist shits with zero motivation.

They can go fight Canadian fires for free. And hope Canada takes pity on them and offers MAID.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:27 PM (jehhT)

48 The Americans who would otherwise be considered poor are paid to not work

What, oh what, could be the solution to this conundrum?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (Riz8t)

49 Don't remember exactly not that is a known number anyway that could be 100 million illegals here.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (Ia/+0)

50 I was once present at an ICE raid of the Gilster Mary Lee bakery in IL, near STL.

Honduran women covered in flower. The next day, the company's phones lit up with wannabe job applicants, who figured there might be some job openings.

I believe that a flood of new, legal job applicants is a common occurrence after an ICE workplace enforcement operation.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (RCjYY)

51 The Americans who would otherwise be considered poor are paid to not work; they aren't getting up, leaving their Doritoes and watching the View to go to no damn job.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:25 PM (3oLMy)

Then stop paying them. Work, or starve.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (1z8ji)

52 And Democrats might not ever win another national election.
Posted by: JackStraw

I'd gladly accept this impact.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:29 PM (NnhvP)

53 Started with the Irish, of course.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Amen to that! Second-class citizens, even that's a reach.

Posted by: Leutonian Supremacist at July 19, 2026 12:29 PM (JM9I6)

54 "29 In order to replace those jobs with citizens we must stop paying people not to work
——

You can see the evil genius at work, if you take the view in from 20,000 feet.

No fucking way could they EVER have imported millions of illegals over the years without a significant portion of the affected people being paid off. And drugged.

We can see descendants of slaves going to bat for hordes of illegals taking jobs, driving up costs, insurance etc.

Union bosses handwaving away millions of imported illegals driving down wages. It’s astonishing really.

Yeah, lots of payola involved.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (OPIYi) "

and practically every penny of it coming from the pockets of honest squares working 40+ hours a week.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 12:30 PM (VyBeY)

55
Every incremental increase in the difficulty of living in America will push those on the margins to self-deport.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

================

There's no law, regulation, or order barring illegal aliens from having US bank accounts. Banks are advised to treat probable illegal alien accounts as a higher risk. (I'm sure chase and bofa will get right on it. )

Where's the difficulty?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:30 PM (mmrXZ)

56 Every incremental increase in the difficulty of living in America will push those on the margins to self-deport.

Eh. It depends. If the incremental increase is a small fraction of the difficulty of living in the home country, they'll still want to stay. That's where we are now.

Would you rather live with somewhat less welfare in the US, or go back to Haiti?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:30 PM (Riz8t)

57 The biggest problem remains that employers hire illegals. Without a job they couldn’t stay here, bank account or not

I don’t know how they get these jobs. I recently started a new job and on day one I had to show my birth certificate and social security card!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 12:31 PM (ugElV)

58 Which makes me wonder if the term "Melting pot" is considered bigotry by today's left and their invading minions. Especially since the man that coined the phrase (Zangwill) was Jewish.
Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (dIske)

Dude, I'm 42, and ever since I was in elementary school, the dull normal meatbags we pay to pretend to work in these places all said it was mucho racism.

It's been on the shit list for a loooooong time. Their preferred term was "salad bowl" in the sense that everyone retains their different cultures, improving our boring, racist salad, which isn't a real salad because it was just lettuce until the enrichers added their cyclosporiasis to it and made it exciting.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 12:31 PM (BI5O2)

59 Debank the illegals!
Depants the Book Thread!

Posted by: Even Steven at July 19, 2026 12:31 PM (JM9I6)

60 Opps.

>>@EricLDaugh
·
55s
>>🚨 WOW! Americans are celebrating after a new report finds 80% PERCENT of Haitian illegal aliens fled Springfield, Ohio

>>Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:33 PM (viF8m)

61 >>Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY
Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:33 PM (viF8m)

Must have run out of pets in Springfield.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 12:33 PM (BI5O2)

62 55
Every incremental increase in the difficulty of living in America will push those on the margins to self-deport.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

================

Has making it illegal to send money out of the US been mentioned.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:35 PM (3oLMy)

63 >>Must have run out of pets in Springfield.

They aren't eating the pets of the people who live there.

whoa whoa whoa

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:35 PM (viF8m)

64 I have argued, and still do, that Europe is on the cusp of a major shift. It may not be all peaceful. It should start with the illegals, but also with the ruling class which enabled the destruction of the country as it was.

Voters in country after country appear to have grown weary of the same experiment: ballooning welfare states, open-border policies, identity-driven governance, and supranational rules that delivered stagnation, insecurity, and a quiet erosion of national sovereignty.

https://tinyurl.com/4df8vfmw

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:35 PM (Riz8t)

65
WOW! Americans are celebrating after a new report finds 80% PERCENT of Haitian illegal aliens fled Springfield, Ohio

>>Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY
Posted by: JackStraw

===============

Where'd they flee to? my guess is new york city or California.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:36 PM (mmrXZ)

66 🚨 WOW! Americans are celebrating after a new report finds 80% PERCENT of Haitian illegal aliens fled Springfield, Ohio
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Begs the question; where'd they go? Certainly not back to Haiti.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:36 PM (jehhT)

67 WOW! Americans are celebrating after a new report finds 80% PERCENT of Haitian illegal aliens fled Springfield, Ohio

>>Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY

Great, but the next question is "where did they go". If they just moved to another town, or dispersed so as to be less obvious, we have a long way to go towards solving the problem.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:36 PM (Riz8t)

68 Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY"

And my brother in laws apartments are empty! This cannot stand!

/ohio politicians

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:37 PM (cGjQu)

69 Where'd they flee to? my guess is new york city or California.

Begs the question; where'd they go? Certainly not back to Haiti.

Great, but the next question is "where did they go". If they just moved to another town, or dispersed so as to be less obvious, we have a long way to go towards solving the problem.

Great minds.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:37 PM (Riz8t)

70 ME immigants do NOT melting pot!

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:37 PM (RCjYY)

71 I have nl faith elections wont be frauded in a different ways

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:38 PM (Ia/+0)

72 FASTER!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:38 PM (aI58f)

73 Debank illegal invaders. Start with Bank Of America first. They suck Bags O Dick.

Posted by: BOA Sucks BOD at July 19, 2026 12:38 PM (45BvE)

74 The Fkin Marxists are starting a civil war if they can.
They are not giving up

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (Ia/+0)

75 - Dude, I'm 42,...

Expecting the word "lawn" will be in a number of coming comments.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (dAv7M)

76
Voters in country after country appear to have grown weary of the same experiment: ballooning welfare states --

Posted by: Archimedes

==============

Exempting MY welfare, however.

Posted by: Every European voter at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (mmrXZ)

77 72 FASTER!

It's my understanding that Gaza has been depopulated by genocide. Can we send them there?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (Riz8t)

78
I don’t know how they get these jobs. I recently started a new job and on day one I had to show my birth certificate and social security card!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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If CBD would publish the list from the other day (or was it Throckmorton?). Anyway. It was a laundry list of areas illegals have taken over the job market. They are bottom tier jobs. Not much inquiry required.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (3oLMy)

79 Tax remittances at 60%.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (nqEzG)

80 Exempting MY welfare, however.

Axiomatic.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (Riz8t)

81 Voters in country after country appear to have grown weary of the same experiment: ballooning welfare states --"

Those immigrants all work and stuff!

/Mike DeStupid, Ohio

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (cGjQu)

82 @60 JackStraw, Governor DeWine must be having a nervous breakdown. They're his people

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 12:41 PM (OXYE0)

83 The reason so many illegals came here is we made it easy for them to come here.
——

We did no such fucking thing, Jack. This is enemy action. Get it in your head.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:41 PM (OPIYi)

84 70 ME immigants do NOT melting pot!

Posted by: mnw
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They want to kill us, it's in their oath, it's preached in their mosques. WHY ARE THEY HERE?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (3oLMy)

85 I want the leftists who are facilitating the illegal takeover to be debanked too. Along with their foot soldiers. All of it. Bankrupt the whole thing.

At that point the illegals still here are baggage on the conveyer belt out of the country.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (jehhT)

86 >>Great, but the next question is "where did they go". If they just moved to another town, or dispersed so as to be less obvious, we have a long way to go towards solving the problem.

Of course we do. But if you never try and just accept that we will always lose, we will.

Guess what the average rent in NYC is these days. Mamdani's idiotic regime is going to crash and burn. He's already running multi-billion dollar deficits. California is coming apart at the seams. They are running out of sanctuaries because their idiotic policies were nothing more than a ponzi scheme that relied on the feds to keep sending endless checks. Those days are over.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (viF8m)

87 A Moron, this last week, pointed out that DHS has a web site
(The Worst of the Worst) which shows the worst of the illegals, state by state. It is well worth the look:

https://www.dhs.gov/wow

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (XeU6L)

88 Those immigrants all work and stuff!

/Mike DeStupid, Ohio

Many do, and it's unrealistic to say otherwise. Yes, outright majorities take advantage of various types of welfare, but there are many who, let's be honest, work a lot harder than the native born would.

We should understand that getting rid of them will come with costs in terms of the expense and quality of labor.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (Riz8t)

89 We did no such fucking thing, Jack. This is enemy action. Get it in your head.

Posted by: Common Tater
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Ease up, and back up on that.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:43 PM (3oLMy)

90 Of course we do. But if you never try and just accept that we will always lose, we will.

Oh, I'm not suggesting we shouldn't, just that this problem, which was built over a half century, won't be resolved overnight, and without any pain.

I like pain.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:44 PM (Riz8t)

91
13 I always thought the notion that Americans are financially obligated to support illegal aliens in public schools was one of the worst possible decisions they could possibly make. Coupled with the fairy tale “birthright citizenship” nonsense, it matters not what the laws say. It’s a losing battle. Plyler vs. whatever.”

Plyler vs Doe, 1982. It always amuses me that i knew Jim Plyler, who at the time was the Superintendent of Schools for the Tyler School District. The case was brought by the US DOJ after Tyler Schools refused to admit the children of illegal aliens in 1981.

It is the practice to name cases between organizations with the name of the person who is in charge of the organization being sued. It always amused Jim that his name was made famous by such a significant case, even though he himself had very little to do with it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 12:44 PM (dP8GR)

92 Must have run out of pets in Springfield.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Tell them to try Mayfield. Ward Cleaver and Fred Rutherford did just fine there. Ward even got a new car every year!

Posted by: Der Fernseher at July 19, 2026 12:44 PM (JM9I6)

93 Europe is a petri dish. An experiment to find out if voters can change the immigration system fast enough, before new Muslim voters make that impossible.

And the boat people who land in Calabria don't stick around to grow tomatoes. They go to the biggest cities in Europe and elect mayors.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:44 PM (RCjYY)

94 >>@60 JackStraw, Governor DeWine must be having a nervous breakdown. They're his people

Be interesting to see what Vivek actually does if he wins.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:45 PM (viF8m)

95 Tell them to try Mayfield. Ward Cleaver and Fred Rutherford did just fine there. Ward even got a new car every year!

That's only because his wife brought in an excellent salary as a translator.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:45 PM (Riz8t)

96 Another area to clamp down on is sending money out of the country by illegals. Require a real or US ID passport or work authorization/visa for non-citizens here legally when doing that. Don't have those? Welcome to a 50% processing and convienence fees or even better the transaction is denied.

Plus, for illegals, no driver's licenses, no car tabs, no welfare, no medical insurance, no public school enrollments or education financial aid, and so on.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 19, 2026 12:46 PM (/eAef)

97 69 Where'd they flee to? my guess is new york city or California.

Begs the question; where'd they go? Certainly not back to Haiti.

Great, but the next question is "where did they go". If they just moved to another town, or dispersed so as to be less obvious, we have a long way to go towards solving the problem.

Great minds.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:37 PM (Riz8t)
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This might surprise your, or maybe not. BUT, they are going to Canada. Montreal has already put out a notice on the massive influx of Haitian refugees as a result of their lost protected status in the US. Ironically, their get in free card for Canada is that Canada has always given prefernce to French speaking immigrants.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:46 PM (dIske)

98 At that point the illegals still here are baggage on the conveyer belt out of the country.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Berserker had that last night only he added a pinwheel of rotating boots.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:47 PM (3oLMy)

99 This might surprise your, or maybe not.

That does surprise me. Canada has apparently decided on MAID for the entire country.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:48 PM (Riz8t)

100 Meanwhile US Bank didn't accept Military ID as an acceptable ID document.
Posted by: Minuteman
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No one accepts my VA ID as valid ID.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:49 PM (XeU6L)

101 9 BTW, what happened to the idea that the USDA shouldn't have to sign off on every beef butchered?
Do we still need a USDA inspector in every butchering house?
I don't know.
Posted by: MkY
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States can have their own and many states do but they do it on terms of USDA and it does not supercede USDA's ability to independently do inspections. Same as with EPA, most of the enforcement of actions are actually done by state agencies.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 12:50 PM (E4rtv)

102 It's my understanding that Gaza has been depopulated by genocide. Can we send them there?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (Riz8t)
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If the Somali fits!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:50 PM (aI58f)

103 > At that point the illegals still here are baggage on the conveyer belt out of the country.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Berserker had that last night only he added a pinwheel of rotating boots.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
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And here I thought I was waxing poetic.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:51 PM (jehhT)

104 And the boat people who land in Calabria don't stick around to grow tomatoes. They go to the biggest cities in Europe and elect mayors.

Posted by: mnw
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Boats don't land in Italy. Navy's been issued, no landing, orders two months ago.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:52 PM (3oLMy)

105 Boats don't land in Italy. Navy's been issued, no landing, orders two months ago.

We'll see about that.

Posted by: The EU elite, luxuriating in air-conditioned splendor at July 19, 2026 12:53 PM (Riz8t)

106 As for "doing jobs Americans won't do."

There's some truth in that. We used to have temporary immigrant work permits for farm workers, Braceros. Work, earn money legally, go home.

Israel still does that.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:53 PM (RCjYY)

107 I don’t know how they get these jobs. I recently started a new job and on day one I had to show my birth certificate and social security card!
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You sweet summer child! Correct Paperwork, documentation, notarizing, every jot and tittle signed off, that shit is for harassing people like you.

Illegal aliens get pulled over. No license, no registration, no insurance. “Have a Nice Day”.

You, dear Citizen, put out your garbage can by mistake on Thursday, instead of Friday. Code Enforcement sez that’s $128.32 fine.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:54 PM (OPIYi)

108 This might surprise your, or maybe not. BUT, they are going to Canada. Montreal has already put out a notice on the massive influx of Haitian refugees as a result of their lost protected status in the US. Ironically, their get in free card for Canada is that Canada has always given prefernce to French speaking immigrants.
Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:46 PM (dIske)

FWIW, a couple of weeks ago, I filled up my Suburban at a discount gas station in the tiny hamlet of Balzac, Alberta. Just outside the northern city limits of Calgary. Waiting at the pump, in front of me was a U-Haul box truck being filled by a swarthy guy. It had Arizona plates, Parked in the lot were four other U-Haul box trucks, ALL with AZ plates. The station is a U-Haul agency. Now it's not unusual for U-Haul agencies to have out-of-area plates. But for all the out-of-area plates to be from ONE locality? Weird.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:55 PM (1z8ji)

109 ...then they came for the Somalis and I didn't say anything because I was helping fuel the helicopters.

Posted by: Knee mauler at July 19, 2026 12:55 PM (2Ez/1)

110 LOL@DOGE:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfr778f

Referring to the WaPo article:

https://t.co/vbAx4nSUA2

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:56 PM (aI58f)

111 It should be obvious to everyone by now the only reason we have an illegal immigration problem is because Democrats need them here. They need them for census reasons and they need them for votes which they obviously do no matter how much Democrats lie.

If we want a permanent solution we have to find a way to stop allowing Democrats to gain power. Democrats are the root of the problem. They create the policies that create illegal immigration.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:56 PM (viF8m)

112 > And the boat people who land in Calabria don't stick around to grow tomatoes. They go to the biggest cities in Europe and elect mayors.
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Not every illegal who comes to America is interested in handouts. Some have political aspirations that go beyond just having influence in elections.

They want themselves to be elected. This way they can push legislation (as they've been doing in Congress for years) to facilitate more illegals of their ilk to resettle here. Changing the entire demographics of cities, counties and states.

It's been successful in Minnesota with the Somalis and elsewhere with Mexicans. In Springfield, OH it was Haitians.

It's a fucking invasion.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:57 PM (jehhT)

113 There are so many advantages for employers who hire illegals.

No workers comp claims, for one. No unemployment insurance claims.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:59 PM (RCjYY)

114 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

115 I have been shouting this for ten years: Disallow the tax write off for employers for the wages paid to illegals. Start auditing employers for 3 years back when more than 5 are found on a payroll and make the employer pay the disallowed back taxes.

Employers will start chasing the illegals off the property on their own.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (rbvCR)

116 There's no law, regulation, or order barring illegal aliens from having US bank accounts.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:30 PM (mmrXZ)

This is true. But using fake or stolen ID is very much illegal, and that is what most of them do.

But making it illegal for illegals to participate, even with genuine ID, is obviously the best outcome.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (l4RKn)

117 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

Buy some goats

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (rbvCR)

118 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

Buy some goats

Yeah, that's an excellent plan. Where do you live?

Posted by: Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad at July 19, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

119 If CBD would publish the list from the other day...

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (3oLMy)

It's at the link in the post.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 01:02 PM (l4RKn)

120 If we want a permanent solution we have to find a way to stop allowing Democrats to gain power. Democrats are the root of the problem.
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Republicans have plenty to answer for, it is by no means restricted to Democrats. As i’m fond of saying, Democrats fuck shit up. That’s their job.

Republicans make sure it stays that way.

This is how we got Trump, incidentally. I guess the 4th iteration of “Bush versus Clinton” aka “Here are your choices” finally broke the spell, or something. LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:02 PM (OPIYi)

121 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

Buy some goats

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (rbvCR)
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Talk is sheep.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 01:03 PM (aI58f)

122 118 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

Buy some goats

Yeah, that's an excellent plan. Where do you live?
Posted by: Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad at July 19, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t)
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I know this the place to insert a joke about not having to buy them dinner first...but I'm not going to do it.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 01:03 PM (dIske)

123 Of course there will be an impact on labor markets if we follow MY plan, and get every last accursed fucking foreigner off our soil.

Everything in life is a tradeoff.

3am Thai food made by a welfare scammer who doesn't wash his hands, and delivered by an illiterate nascent jihadist who mowed down an Aztec vagrant while wrong-way driving moments before will become scarcer, too.

The benefits exceed the downside.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:05 PM (BI5O2)

124 Every immigration reform Trump has undertaken will be undone/reversed by the DEMs on day one, next time they win.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:05 PM (RCjYY)

125 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

Buy some goats

Yeah, that's an excellent plan. Where do you live?
Posted by: Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad at July 19, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

Run little goats! Run!

Posted by: Rabid Moroccan Donkey with a Ruptured Asshole at July 19, 2026 01:05 PM (wOO3z)

126 have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)
Buy some goats

Hello Code Enforcement? Yes, I would like to report my neighbor...he hasn't mowed in weeks and now he has goats in his yard. Yes, I think he's a conservative too.
He scares me and my 13 cats.

Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, Local democrat scold and busybody at July 19, 2026 01:05 PM (45BvE)

127 It's been successful in Minnesota with the Somalis
Bill Clinton started that

Carter's Cuban boat thugs

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:06 PM (3oLMy)

128 When the government wants something to happen, they can make it happen. Manhattan project. Apollo moon program. Hoover Dam, etc.

50 years of unfettered illegal alien migration doesn’t just happen. “There’s nothing we can do” is not an acceptable not believable answer. Somebody wants it this way.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:06 PM (OPIYi)

129 >>Republicans have plenty to answer for, it is by no means restricted to Democrats. As i’m fond of saying, Democrats fuck shit up. That’s their job.

No question that some of the GOP are in league with the left. But the entire Democrat Party is committed to illegals.

We just saw the governor and attorney general of Minnesota pardon a child rapist who just happens to be an illegal alien. In what universe does that make any sense at all?

Mark Warner was on one of the talking heads networks this morning lying that photo ID is required in VA. Shockingly, the talking head had to correct him because he also lives in VA. There is no legitimate reason to be against secure elections unless you plan to cheat. And they do.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:08 PM (viF8m)

130 It should be obvious to everyone by now the only reason we have an illegal immigration problem is because Democrats need them here. They need them for census reasons and they need them for votes which they obviously do no matter how much Democrats lie.

If we want a permanent solution we have to find a way to stop allowing Democrats to gain power. Democrats are the root of the problem. They create the policies that create illegal immigration.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:56 PM (viF8m)

I think Elissa Slotkin recently said the quiet part out loud: The SAVE act can’t pass because Dems would never win another election!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:09 PM (ugElV)

131 >>> 51 The Americans who would otherwise be considered poor are paid to not work; they aren't getting up, leaving their Doritoes and watching the View to go to no damn job.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:25 PM (3oLMy)

Then stop paying them. Work, or starve.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (1z8ji)

Yes.

Posted by: the gods of the copybook headings at July 19, 2026 01:09 PM (vDZgA)

132 My yard needs mowing bad too. The neighbor was out with his tractor and finishing mower and all I saw was the mist coming off the back of the mower due to all the moisture on the grass.

Not my cup of tea when it's that wet.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 01:09 PM (jehhT)

133 >>I think Elissa Slotkin recently said the quiet part out loud: The SAVE act can’t pass because Dems would never win another election!

It's shocking when Democrats actually tell the truth.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:11 PM (viF8m)

134 The list CBD published the other day if enforced carte blanche would cause an abject failure to the economy.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:13 PM (3oLMy)

Ending slavery was a vast hardship to the traditional agricultural economy of the South, much the way that ending sharecropping was intensely damaging to the economy of the south 100 years later.
These actions did not destroy the economy, even though they caused dislocations that had to be resolved. Those crops continued under new terms.

And yet, what killed King Cotton and King Sugar and King Indigo wasn't labor costs, but the financialization of the industries that depended on those crops that made it a good deal, financially for the financiers, to export them to China and similar places.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:11 PM (rbvCR)

135 Many do, and it's unrealistic to say otherwise. Yes, outright majorities take advantage of various types of welfare, but there are many who, let's be honest, work a lot harder than the native born would.

We should understand that getting rid of them will come with costs in terms of the expense and quality of labor.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Working 'hard' is not the same as labor productivity and lowly educated illegals are not particularly productive compared with other labor or mechanization. They come cheap, not necessarily productive.

That is one of the key flaws in Marxian analysis of economics--workers are not widgets and have varying degrees of productivity depending on a number of factors. Likewise, the decision to mechanize a labor task like digging a ditch, is often superior than hiring a bunch of illegals to do it. But, it takes an owner willing to invest in capital goods and a better quality laborer that won't tear up the machine nor do damage with it.

When illegals are cheap labor, the employer will choose the floating population of cheap labor because his competitors are doing the same thing so he faces a competitive issue and initial costs are higher.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:11 PM (E4rtv)

136 I was also present once for a combined ICE/state police action at an Asian massage parlor. I think it may have been in either ESL or Brooklyn, IL. 100% Korean hookers.

Brooklyn, IL is for people who can't afford East St. Louis, btw.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (RCjYY)

137 They want themselves to be elected. This way they can push legislation (as they've been doing in Congress for years) to facilitate more illegals of their ilk to resettle here. Changing the entire demographics of cities, counties and states.

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That's what tore it for me. The moment I started seeing congresswhores with names like Omar and Tlaib, I shifted from anti-illegal sentiment to wanting all foreigners out.

This is MY country and I will bequeath it to MY kids, not your foreign whelps. GTFO.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (BI5O2)

138 I'm reminded of what the Operative said in the movie Serenity. "When your enemy goes to ground, leave them no ground to go to."

Employers, banks, places to rent. Go after anyone doing business with illegals. Soon the illegals will have to leave.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 19, 2026 01:14 PM (MsFGo)

139 Brooklyn, IL is for people who can't afford East St. Louis, btw.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (RCjYY)

Damn, that's bad.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 01:14 PM (wOO3z)

140 Mark Warner was on one of the talking heads networks this morning lying that photo ID is required in VA. Shockingly, the talking head had to correct him because he also lives in VA. There is no legitimate reason to be against secure elections unless you plan to cheat. And they do.

Here is the ID rule for voting in VA:

Virginia requires voters to present non-photo identification (ID) while voting. Accepted forms of ID include Virginia driver's licenses, U.S. passports, student IDs, and copies of current utility bills or bank statements. For a list of all accepted forms of ID, see below.[1]

Voters without a required ID may sign an ID confirmation statement and vote a regular ballot.

Most people just pull out their DL, which has a photo.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:15 PM (Riz8t)

141 128 When the government wants something to happen, they can make it happen. Manhattan project. Apollo moon program. Hoover Dam, etc.

50 years of unfettered illegal alien migration doesn’t just happen. “There’s nothing we can do” is not an acceptable not believable answer. Somebody wants it this way.
Posted by: Common Tater

Absolutely true. Same thing with crime, not educating children, and other social policies.

But the influence on decisionmakers is to empire build and feather their own nests, not the primary goal of whatever institution is created to address a social problem. And it appears substituting contractors for the government employees is equal bad because the same influences without competition end up with the same dysfunction.

It is very difficult to set up competitive markets for discipline on social policy institutions because the entire incentive structure of government/contractors aims at dysfunction rather than solving the problem in a cost efficient manner.

Education is a perfect example--our version of Soviet agriculture with about the same results.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:16 PM (E4rtv)

142 >>> 112 > And the boat people who land in Calabria don't stick around to grow tomatoes. They go to the biggest cities in Europe and elect mayors.
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Not every illegal who comes to America is interested in handouts. Some have political aspirations that go beyond just having influence in elections.

They want themselves to be elected. This way they can push legislation (as they've been doing in Congress for years) to facilitate more illegals of their ilk to resettle here. Changing the entire demographics of cities, counties and states.

It's been successful in Minnesota with the Somalis and elsewhere with Mexicans. In Springfield, OH it was Haitians.

It's a fucking invasion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:57 PM (jehhT)

An invasion of non-uniformed combatants who are receiving direct assistance from some "citizens" of the US.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2026 01:16 PM (vDZgA)

143 Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:08 PM (viF8m)
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When it comes to election integrity and the investigative process to determine election exploitation, Mark Warner's response and behavior has been disproportionate and difficult to explain.

When Gabbard sent a team down to Georgia and refused to seek the Senate Select Intelligence Committee's approval, and brief him personally, he went apoplectic. When Trump announced his speech that occurred last Thursday, Warner was alll over the airwaves stating that it was theatrics and held no substance even before he knew what was being presented. Which begs the question, how deeply is the SSIC involved in these frauds, and in what capacity?

One would have to question whether Warner is personally involved in the foreign influence of elections, or perhaps orchestrating it.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (dIske)

144 >>Voters without a required ID may sign an ID confirmation statement and vote a regular ballot.

Can you buy a gun or a beer in VA without an ID if you just sign a form that will never be checked?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (viF8m)

145 Working 'hard' is not the same as labor productivity and lowly educated illegals are not particularly productive compared with other labor or mechanization. They come cheap, not necessarily productive.

That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (Riz8t)

146 140

Venice, IL is for people who can't afford Brooklyn.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:18 PM (RCjYY)

147 My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.

AND productive.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:18 PM (Riz8t)

148 124 Every immigration reform Trump has undertaken will be undone/reversed by the DEMs on day one, next time they win.
Posted by: mnw
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Blackpilling is never useful.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:19 PM (E4rtv)

149 >>One would have to question whether Warner is personally involved in the foreign influence of elections, or perhaps orchestrating it.

Right in the middle of the Russia collusion bullshit Warner was secretly communicating with Steele's lawyer who also just happens to be the lawyer for a Russian oligarch who is under US sanctions.

He's a dirtbag of epic proportion.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:20 PM (viF8m)

150 SiriusXM pricing is a farce.

My 2 year "promotional trial" that is running me $6.50 per month (full cost is about $28.00 per month) is expiring at the end of July. I called SiriusXM today to "cancel." Ten minutes later I had a new 1 year "promotion trial" that runs $7.50 per month, a reasonable price increase. I pushed for another 2 year deal but the AI agent was having none of that.

In other news, these AI customer service agents are uncannily good at what they are tasked with.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at July 19, 2026 01:23 PM (/eAef)

151 > Every immigration reform Trump has undertaken will be undone/reversed by the DEMs on day one, next time they win.
Posted by: mnw
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Blackpilling is never useful.
Posted by: The Beatles
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But telling the truth is. There's no persistent reason to think the left cannot steal another "election." Especially when we depend on the likes of the GOP to make sure our interests are looked after.

And, not to put too fine a point on this, but the judiciary, who's responsible for handing down not only punishments, but law and legal decisions, is firmly on the left's side.

Can it be fixed? Neutered? Rehabilitated?

I have no clue.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 01:25 PM (jehhT)

152 That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.
Posted by: Archimedes

Mine is opposite of yours--restaurants have had a substantial decline in hygiene tied to casual standards of the third world, I see lazy construction workers that use nail guns like a machine gun rather than point and aiming, awful masonry skills where the mortar is smeared around and bricks/blocks not aligned properly, roofers leaving trash everywhere where they think it will be hidden and doing substandard work, and so on, etc.

They come cheap, not necessarily good. Specific individuals may vary as some of the most industrious illegals end up trying for owning a small business etc. but the standard issue is the same Third World mentality that they came from.

And that mentality more or less of this third world is to socialize costs and privatize any benefits. Low trust society.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:26 PM (E4rtv)

153 That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (Riz8t)

That is nice. The extra profit for hiring someone who works extra hard for less pay is probably a good thing.

The extra costs that the employer spares himself is often taken up by tax supported social services, which is the exact example of outsourcing, or "socializing" the production costs for private profit.
Also the social cost of having a permanent underclass that is legally unable to advance, and reluctant to use law enforcement and the courts to protect themselves form predation by criminals.
And the fact that the underclass is also the section that tends to involve themselves directly or indirectly in crime out of solidarity of fear

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:26 PM (rbvCR)

154 “Fast, cheap, or good. Pick two”

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:27 PM (OPIYi)

155 Can it be fixed? Neutered? Rehabilitated?

I have no clue.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Telling the truth about current conditions is one thing, making predictions like Nostradamus is quite another. And the direction is predictable--when all you see and spout are negatives, that is as unrealistic as seeing everything positive.

Life is a struggle, we cannot recapture the past, we can only move forward to address the challenges then and do our best to fix what we can in the time we have allotted on this earth. Nothing is fixed, nothing is definite, and no victory nor defeat permanent.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:28 PM (E4rtv)

156 That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.

Posted by: Archimedes
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And that fits the bill of the list of jobs, published by CBD or Throckmorton, that illegals have taken over. And one might say their work is productive because they grease the wheels, buss our tables, serve the food. I'm hungry.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:29 PM (3oLMy)

157 That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (Riz8t)

That is nice. The extra profit for hiring someone who works extra hard for less pay is probably a good thing.

Please point out where I said that. I'll wait.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:30 PM (Riz8t)

158 Businesses that conform to laws relating to illegal immigrants are at an obvious disadvantage to businesses that employ illegals.

I still think temporary work permits could be part of the solution to "jobs American won't do," i.e., slaughtering chickens.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (RCjYY)

159 "Jobs Americans won't do," and all the related economic arguments for unchecked mass immigration are extremely condescending - as if we didn't know some of these people work at some level of productivity.

But the even more condescending and gross part is the subject... we're being spoken to like children. "If you try and keep your country and culture, then you'll have to go to bed without your treats!"

I'm not Edmund Pevensie, and I won't sell out my people for a grubby little fistful of Turkish Delight.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (BI5O2)

160 *subtext, not subject

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (BI5O2)

161
Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:26 PM (E4rtv)

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I could go on and on about this. 1) The Mexicans in my family have loooong kept their Mexican habits of fixing things with tape and string while the underlying structural problem worsens. I have examples.

2) Local Mexicans literally do what they call "trash work" where they get drunk af on a construction job. Just a way to make the day go faster.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (mmrXZ)

162 “They work hard!”

This isn’t relevant, actually. The problem is the financialization. The negative impacts of mass migration or cost shifted to the taxpayers, who get no benefits per se.

The businesses employing illegals get an advantage. Your hospital does not. Your cop shop does not.

Your schools do, kinda. Federal dollars for every ass in the seat.

Is the quality of the instruction any good? Nice new facilities and administrative buildings, but they can’t read or write or perform Arithmetic.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (OPIYi)

163 completely OT, but Gavin Newsom is getting really extra squirmy in his media presentations

https://tinyurl.com/4fdxesma

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (rbvCR)

164 Predictions are hard. Especially about the future.

Posted by: Yogi With His 10 WS Rings at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (JM9I6)

165 >>But telling the truth is. There's no persistent reason to think the left cannot steal another "election." Especially when we depend on the likes of the GOP to make sure our interests are looked after.

Why do you suppose they allowed Trump to win in 2024? Like him or hate him there has never been a bigger threat to their machine than Trump. And he crushed them in 2024.

Lots of election integrity stuff is going on including just yesterday an appeals court allowing the USPS to force tracking rules for every single mail in ballot. No more mass mail in voting. Kind of a big deal.

Doesn't mean they won't still try to cheat but it's not 2020 any longer. Things are improving even if not as fast as we want.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (viF8m)

166 I'm not Edmund Pevensie, and I won't sell out my people for a grubby little fistful of Turkish Delight.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (BI5O2)

Great Chronicles of Narnia reference!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:33 PM (26GAh)

167
I still think temporary work permits could be part of the solution to "jobs American won't do," i.e., slaughtering chickens.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (RCjYY)

Many years back when the economy was on the skids my husband had to take a job at a poultry processing plant.. If you need the money you'll do it...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:33 PM (FtULh)

168 It would be nice if we had a hotline or internet link so that we could report these lawless companies anonymously. I know of two companies right now using illegal labor.

The companies need to pay. There is nothing like a good raid with your morning coffee.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 01:34 PM (sYM3s)

169 166 I'm not Edmund Pevensie, and I won't sell out my people for a grubby little fistful of Turkish Delight.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (BI5O2)

Great Chronicles of Narnia reference!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:33 PM (26GAh)

Yes Edmund was a rat

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:34 PM (FtULh)

170 Denied!!!

Posted by: So Called Judge Boasberg at July 19, 2026 01:34 PM (rf/GM)

171 @nypost
Tulsi Gabbard's brother accused of trying to lure children to Hawaii hotel room: police trib.al/IQo4lrT

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 01:35 PM (gKWVE)

172 I was also present once for a combined ICE/state police action at an Asian massage parlor. I think it may have been in either ESL or Brooklyn, IL. 100% Korean hookers.

...
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (RCjYY)

Were you on the way in or on the way out ;p ?

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 19, 2026 01:36 PM (vSvIl)

173 Ryan Fox of NZ birdies the 18th to win the Open.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 01:36 PM (OXYE0)

174 Completely OT… but decades ago it was The British Open… Then The Open Championship…. Now it’s just The Open

Like Kiev to Kyiv and Turkey to Türkiye?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:36 PM (ugElV)

175 174 Completely OT… but decades ago it was The British Open… Then The Open Championship…. Now it’s just The Open

Golf is more boring than soccer....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:37 PM (FtULh)

176 Yes Edmund was a rat
Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:34 PM (FtULh)

IIRC, didn’t Edmund get transformed into some kind of dragon as a punishment for his gluttony in one of the books? Something like that….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:37 PM (ugElV)

177
Many years back when the economy was on the skids my husband had to take a job at a poultry processing plant.. If you need the money you'll do it...
Posted by: It's me donna

Heh, you seem way too classy to be the wife of a chicken-plucker!

Posted by: Assistant Neck-Wringer at July 19, 2026 01:38 PM (JM9I6)

178 What a finish at The BRITISH Open. Fox wins with a one stroke lead, -10, earned on the last putt of the tournament.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at July 19, 2026 01:38 PM (/eAef)

179 As Adam Carolla has said numerous times, you have a legally operated restaurant where the owner had to abide by 100 state and local regulations. Then right outside the restaurant, there’s an illegal selling tacos on the streets.

Nobody from the state or city or county who will fine the restaurant owner for the slightest infraction gives a fuck about the illegal.

Posted by: Insanity at July 19, 2026 01:39 PM (rf/GM)

180 167 Donna

I think the poultry processors would dispute that, that all it takes to hire legal workers is higher wages.

"legal workers" to include LAPRs, Lawful Alien Permanent Residents-- green card holders

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:39 PM (RCjYY)

181 @178 I was rooting for Young the American, but I like Fox, he plays fast

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 01:39 PM (OXYE0)

182 > Doesn't mean they won't still try to cheat but it's not 2020 any longer. Things are improving even if not as fast as we want.
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No, it isn't 2020. Things are improving. Yes. It does not preclude the left from trying, and succeeding in stealing another election.

I have hope that the information Trump released last week about China's influence in our elections, the danger e-voting and the hacked machines pose, and efforts to clean up the rolls has a positive effect.

Taking away the tools the left uses doesn't necessarily mean they'll quit. We should remain on guard.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 01:40 PM (jehhT)

183 Please point out where I said that. I'll wait.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:30 PM (Riz8t)

You said they work extra hard, I surmised the reason the employers took them on is because they work cheaper.
That, in my experience with construction, farm work, housekeeping, yard work, and restaurants is exactly why the employers hire them in spite of having screwed up I9 and fake working docs.
They could hire better legals, but on the whole the margin of profit is so slender, especially in restaurants, they go with what they figure they can afford.
And the taxpayer subsidizes these industries through social safety nets.

It is still peonage. It is still peonage enforced by government regulation. We can live in this extremely inujst and morally questionable world for cheap lawncare and cheap french fries, or we can take away the laws and open the borders to everyone no matter what, or we can enforce the laws and accept that marginal businesses are going to either have to adapt or die

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:40 PM (rbvCR)

184 I was also present once for a combined ICE/state police action at an Asian massage parlor. I think it may have been in either ESL or Brooklyn, IL. 100% Korean hookers....
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (RCjYY)

Did it have a happy ending?

Posted by: Bulgogi at July 19, 2026 01:40 PM (nPp6w)

185
I have hope that the information Trump released last week about China's influence in our elections, the danger e-voting and the hacked machines pose, and efforts to clean up the rolls has a positive effect.

Taking away the tools the left uses doesn't necessarily mean they'll quit. We should remain on guard.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 01:40 PM (jehhT)

Oh the talking heads today are out in force disputing that Trump said anything that showed there was any cheating

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:41 PM (FtULh)

186 The Stones have a new album out, Foreign Tongues. It is, checks notes, their best work since the last century.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at July 19, 2026 01:41 PM (/eAef)

187 159 "Jobs Americans won't do," and all the related economic arguments for unchecked mass immigration are extremely condescending - as if we didn't know some of these people work at some level of productivity.
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The jobs available to illegals you will be hard pressed to find an American, today, that will take that job. Stop paying people not to work and there will be an available work force to fill those vacancies created by sending illegals home.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:41 PM (3oLMy)

188 172 Methos

I got paid to be present.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:42 PM (RCjYY)

189 I'm still waiting for some state to have a super partisan Secretary of State just certify made up precinct totals. In other words, make the local totals fully automated so that the local Precinct captain has no idea of the numbers, and limiting information to as few as possible. who are compromised in the "name of the common good."

Then instituting laws that disallow local precincts to do re-counts (oh, wait, Arizona already has that law in place...wink wink and Michigan just raised the roof on the potential for recounts).

IOW, no more of this complex, labor intensive vote fraud. Just have a handful of people certify made up totals.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 01:42 PM (dIske)

190 much the way that ending sharecropping was intensely damaging to the economy of the south 100 years later.

Ending slavery was an enormous disruption, yes (and the unpleasantness leading up to it didn't help).
My understanding is that it was the tractor which made sharecropping untenable, however. This helped the South's economy boom (other factors include airconditioning and the removal of nasty worms and bugs, and better roads). The Civil Rights movement happened because the rest of the US noticed at least a second world economy in the South and didn't think it had an excuse for running a third world feudal society.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 01:42 PM (gKWVE)

191 >>Taking away the tools the left uses doesn't necessarily mean they'll quit. We should remain on guard.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

- Stuff Jefferson soft of said.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:42 PM (viF8m)

192 163 completely OT, but Gavin Newsom is getting really extra squirmy in his media presentations

https://tinyurl.com/4fdxesma
Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (rbvCR)

ewww

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:43 PM (6wpGE)

193 LinusVanPelt, that was Eustace in "Dawn Treader". Edmund was still there but by then he'd had enough Narnia experience to know how things worked.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 01:44 PM (gKWVE)

194
Oh the talking heads today are out in force disputing that Trump said anything that showed there was any cheating

Posted by: It's me donna
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I've turned on the Brave news feed, when I boot up Brave first thing I see is its headline/ledes. It stinks, the lies that each news agency puts out or/and the misinterpretation of facts and events.
If I were Tsar they would be in a dungeon.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:45 PM (3oLMy)

195 Please point out where I said that. I'll wait.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:30 PM (Riz8t)

You said they work extra hard, I surmised the reason the employers took them on is because they work cheaper.

I said they work extra hard because that is my experience. That doesn't mean they aren't also cheaper. Other than that, I don't think we have a disagreement.

we can take away the laws and open the borders to everyone no matter what, or we can enforce the laws and accept that marginal businesses are going to either have to adapt or die

If you peruse my comments earlier in the thread, you will see that option B is exactly what I advocated. It does nobody any favors to pretend this will be painless.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (Riz8t)

196 Shana Bellows drops out of Maine Senate race. Go fat trannie

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (OXYE0)

197 LinusVanPelt, that was Eustace in "Dawn Treader". Edmund was still there but by then he'd had enough Narnia experience to know how things worked.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 01:44 PM (gKWVE)

That’s right! Thanks… it’s been awhile

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (2mApq)

198 184

"Did it have a happy ending?"

Indeed yes! All the sex workers were arrested and deported. There were even Korean speaking translators on hand, to read Miranda rights.

One Asian massage parlor gone, couple hundred thousand to go.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (RCjYY)

199 Shana Bellows drops out of Maine Senate race. Go fat trannie
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (OXYE0)

This is hilarious as she was IMO actually the least retarded of their candidates. This is not a compliment

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:47 PM (2mApq)

200 200

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:48 PM (6wpGE)

201 Shana Bellows drops out of Maine Senate race.

Funny, that.

Posted by: DNC goons, slamming fists into their own palms at July 19, 2026 01:48 PM (Riz8t)

202 199 Shana Bellows drops out of Maine Senate race. Go fat trannie
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (OXYE0)

This is hilarious as she was IMO actually the least retarded of their candidates. This is not a compliment
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:47 PM (2mApq)

She couldn't take the heat. She got all flustered.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:48 PM (6wpGE)

203 *Shenna

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:49 PM (6wpGE)

204 So, it's chick with a dick for the win?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:51 PM (3oLMy)

205
Shana Bellows drops out of Maine Senate race. Go fat trannie
Posted by: Smell the Glove

She doesn't look anything like Amanda Bellows.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 19, 2026 01:51 PM (Cqx++)

206
Your Vote 2026 profile: Shenna Bellows, Democrat for governor

Published April 17, 2026 at 11:09 AM EDT

Name: Shenna Bellows
Age: 51
Hometown: Manchester
Party: Democrat
Education: BA, Middlebury College
Political experience:
Maine State Senate (2016-2020),
Secretary of State (2020-present)

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:51 PM (6wpGE)

207 "Code Enforcement sez that’s $128.32 fine. "

$125, plus $3.32 sales tax & service fees.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 01:53 PM (VyBeY)

208 Illegal alien. The first word should serve, but the second means American. Simple.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 01:53 PM (LHPAg)

209 My understanding is that it was the tractor which made sharecropping untenable, however. This helped the South's economy boom (other factors include airconditioning and the removal of nasty worms and bugs, and better roads). The Civil Rights movement happened because the rest of the US noticed at least a second world economy in the South and didn't think it had an excuse for running a third world feudal society.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 01:42 PM (gKWVE)

Yes and no, the government stepped in with serious laws on it in the 50's and 60'which really ended it, and the mechanization of ag started from WWI to WWII.

Of course the phasing out of sharecropping meant the work had to be done somehow, and that led to the rise of migrant and seasonal work. The federal Farm Labor act was brought on in 1964 to regulate that, and of course the Migrant and Seasonal Protection Act was brought on in the 80's to cover what was missed in 1964. MSPA and Farm Labor were very focused on working and living conditions, pay, and the areas intentionally neglected by Fair Labor Standards Act from the New Deal

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:53 PM (rbvCR)

210 One Asian massage parlor gone, couple hundred thousand to go.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (RCjYY)

And that's just the NY metro area.

Posted by: Bulgogi at July 19, 2026 01:53 PM (nPp6w)

211 Only place to get a pedicure around here wants to put sparklers and extensions on.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:53 PM (3oLMy)

212 I used to live FLSA and MSPA, I am rusty, but I have decided VIEWS on illegal workers, mostly that they are deeply taken advantage of, and seriously undercut the labor market.

Much as slavery did.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:54 PM (rbvCR)

213 211 Only place to get a pedicure around here wants to put sparklers and extensions on.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:53 PM (3oLMy)

👀

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:54 PM (6wpGE)

214 NOT American, had chili on my fingers.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 01:55 PM (LHPAg)

215 One Asian massage parlor gone, couple hundred thousand to go.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (RCjYY)

And that's just the NY metro area.
Posted by: Bulgogi at July 19, 2026 01:53 PM (nPp6w)

I wonder what Robert Kraft thinks about this…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:55 PM (TqDYN)

216 184 I was also present once for a combined ICE/state police action at an Asian massage parlor. I think it may have been in either ESL or Brooklyn, IL. 100% Korean hookers....
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (RCjYY)

Did it have a happy ending?
Posted by: Bulgogi at July 19, 2026 01:40 PM (nPp6w)

ISWYDT

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:57 PM (6wpGE)

217 I'm way late to this and it's probably already been said but going after employers is the best solution. Best because so many - especially the young street animals - already support communism over capitalism and they will not be sympathetic to big fat cat capitalists. So yes go after the employers, make it impossible for illegals to earn income and they will self deport.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 19, 2026 01:57 PM (W6d+C)

218 If you peruse my comments earlier in the thread, you will see that option B is exactly what I advocated. It does nobody any favors to pretend this will be painless.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (Riz8t)

If I agree with you, why are you also fighting me? Is this an Italian family dinner party where the fight starts because everyone is agreeing for the wrong reasons?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:57 PM (rbvCR)

219 211 Only place to get a pedicure around here wants to put sparklers and extensions on.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:53 PM (3oLMy)
No weaves and eyelashes?

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 01:57 PM (LHPAg)

220 I still think temporary work permits could be part of the solution to "jobs American won't do," i.e., slaughtering chickens.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (RCjYY)

"Temporary" work permits should be for seasonal jobs, like harvesting veggies, and possibly some construction work. Slaughtering chickens is steady work; gets done year-in, year-out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:59 PM (1z8ji)

221 In our over surveilled society this should be relatively easy. Govt never takes the easy route though.

But I'd start with any account that has sent more than one transfer to a foreign country. Make the banks verify them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 19, 2026 01:59 PM (n5tGW)

222 206

The ME DEM Senate race is over, for all practical purposes. The DEM nominee to face Collins will be former state senate president Troy Jackson (D).

They're selected delegates this past week, and some delegate selection meetings are still ongoing.

However, Jackson is kicking adz. He's saying the same sh*t Platner did, but he'll be a formidable opponent for Collins, imo.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 02:00 PM (RCjYY)

223 1ST WORLD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 02:01 PM (Ia/+0)

224 222 206

The ME DEM Senate race is over, for all practical purposes. The DEM nominee to face Collins will be former state senate president Troy Jackson (D).

They're selected delegates this past week, and some delegate selection meetings are still ongoing.

However, Jackson is kicking adz. He's saying the same sh*t Platner did, but he'll be a formidable opponent for Collins, imo.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 02:00 PM (RCjYY)

Thank you for this.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:01 PM (6wpGE)

225 223 1ST WORLD NOOD
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 02:01 PM (Ia/+0)

First World Problems [Doof]
—Open Blogger
nood

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:02 PM (6wpGE)

226 Shana Bellows drops out of Maine Senate race. Go fat trannie
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 01:46 PM (OXYE0)

Talk about people with a self-descriptive name, eh? As a Karen, no doubt she bellows a lot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 02:03 PM (1z8ji)

227 > I've turned on the Brave news feed, when I boot up Brave first thing I see is its headline/ledes. It stinks, the lies that each news agency puts out or/and the misinterpretation of facts and events.
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I think it's just a re-wrapped Google Newz feed... thus, the shitification of said newz.

Plus, it's mostly crypto-driven content... IOW, paid.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 02:04 PM (jehhT)

228 Tulsi Gabbard's brother accused of trying to lure children to Hawaii hotel room

Don't you want to help me and the puppet find my lost kitten? I have candy!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 19, 2026 02:04 PM (kt+Zf)

229 221 In our over surveilled society this should be relatively easy. Govt never takes the easy route though.

But I'd start with any account that has sent more than one transfer to a foreign country. Make the banks verify them.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

They already do, and are, but that still doesn't explain Esptein and Dimon unless Brennan approved it, because he did.

The Three Specific Emails (JPMorgan/Epstein Context)

The "Birthday Book" Outreach (2011): The email outlines how the bank could use Epstein's personal relationships with these men to secure them

The Problem for Dimon: This contradicts his 2023 testimony that he was unaware of Epstein's activities. ...

The "Wall of Cash" Email (2013):

The Intelligence Link: This is where John Brennan’s name frequently surfaces in the 2026 inquiry.

#3 The "Moscow/Russian" Date Email (2010):
An email from Epstein to a high-ranking contact (recently linked to the broader "Clinton network" in the files) regarding a meeting with a "clever, beautiful, trustworthy" Russian woman.

If Brennan didn't KNOW (and approve) he wouldn't be very intelligent now would he?

LET's GO BRANDON!
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-WeaponizedKragleWH

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 19, 2026 02:08 PM (zOLg1)

230
I would like there to be a law that states-

If we have to find them and deport them, at that point, then their bank accts and all property and housing and transportation that they own are forfeit to the gov't.

I'm also thinking that any one who rents property ( apps, houses, etc) immediately loses their the entirety of their property to the gov't.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 02:09 PM (iJfKG)

231 I will post this here. It's a link to a site that has all the info Trump released, in a searchable database

https://tinyurl.com/y22283ue

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 19, 2026 02:12 PM (bkuEU)

232 Shoulda happened WAY before now … WTF's wrong with these people … ?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 19, 2026 02:29 PM (ayRl+)

233 The problem with that is they never assimilate and reproduce like rabbits and their kids have the same attitudes. We have some illegals around here that have been in the country illegally for 10-20 years and still don't speak english. That's why pretty much every social service in our county has to have their stuff printed in english and spanish and they have translators on staff.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (0N4FZ)

And make an FCC ruling that both large Spanish networks MUST provide a percentage of their programming in English. And this from someone who was employed by the largest as an engineer. Funny how the official language at the network is English. My Hungarian and Slovak grandparents didn't have the luxury of not learning the language when they arrived back at the turn of the last century.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 19, 2026 02:44 PM (5xuJ/)

234 "No workers comp claims, for one. No unemployment insurance claims."

Ackshually, this is incorrect, it is a significant source of fraud, adjustors don't ask for citizenship status and the guy/gal who doesn't care too much about immigration laws, identity theft, doesn't have much of a problem ripping off the work comp system, go figure. That goes to increasing rates for all businesses and ultimately you get to pay for all of it.

Posted by: EzE at July 19, 2026 03:02 PM (pxzPN)

235 The biggest motivator for banks is money. If it pays better to not look too closely at the law while collect their fees from a banking customer, why would they cut themselves off from a revenue source? If a bank gains a billion $ from a certain activity & only gets fined $20 million; will they even shed a tear as they supply a scapegoat? Defrauding the taxpayers(the govt) used to be a crime. Until that crimes is punished severely enough; the only inducement will continue to be $.

Posted by: Curlysan at July 19, 2026 03:33 PM (lxotb)

236 The U.S. won't get rid of illegals by cutting them off from working until they are cut off from gubmint welfare.

And if we limited welfare for non illegals as well it would go a long ways towards ending the "jobs americans wont do"
which is really, a lot of folks figured out that welfare pays better the the jobs they are qualified to do, and even the ones that could advance in a career aren't willing to have the short term money cut for the long term gain.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 19, 2026 04:27 PM (PV+Zw)

237 So you're telling me that Abdul, that was competing with the Vultures for something to eat, somehow got imported into our country by our government and setup as a new star in our broad tapestry of a shining beacon to the world. So Abdul contributes to America by doing something for which he is qualified; such as cleaning Porta-Potties on 3rd shift.
But no....a few years later it turns out that Abdul is CEO of a fairly sophisticated operation to scam the USA out of millions...multimillions. And ICE proudly announces he will be deported!!!
No mention of "after serving a lengthy prison sentence". And no mention of the ICE airplane making a quick stop in the south of France to drop off Abdul at his villa. And no mention of pursuing the American AID workers that undoubtedly guided Abdul through the legal labyrinth of setting up the scam. These are the bastards that need to swing.

Posted by: ss at July 19, 2026 04:54 PM (e8Nbd)

238 It should be virtually impossible to live here unless you are a citizen, naturalized or otherwise, or have the legal authorization to live and work here.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:04 PM (4g5V+)

239 Why won't CONgress debank illegal aliens?

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2026 07:38 PM (5V8RT)

240 Until those businesses are forced to pay Market wages, Then Americans would take those jobs.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:15 PM (NnhvP)
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Market wages are significantly inflated by welfare programs. Chasing illegals is only half the problem.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 19, 2026 10:30 PM (UQRAm)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 7-19-2026 [Sabrina Chase]

Welcome to the Book Thread, Guest Poster edition! I will be your host as we explore all sorts of book-related topics. All usual Book Thread rules are incorporated by reference (pets, beverage, clothing covering the lower limbs, etc.) with the special Sabrina Chase exemption for those stylish persons preferring kilts. Now let us proceed to today's topic, which is ...

(Big) Beautiful Book Bindings

We are all about the contents of books here at the Book Thread, but a high-quality binding is the literary cherry on top. The photo above is one of the old books in my library, a first edition of the Hurst "Burnt Leather Classics" version of the works of Robert Burns, printed in 1904. (It took a bit of internet research to find out the date, as the fancy version had no published date inside.) Not only does it have gilt lettering on the cover, the edges of the pages are all gilt as well. In addition, the cover is soft leather, delicately embossed with daffodils, and slightly padded so it is very comfortable to hold. There used to be a silk bookmark ribbon bound in, but that fell to the ravages of time. A lot of thought clearly went into this design, to not only look good and to be functional but also elevate the book even more. (Apparently it was TOO fancy/expensive to produce, even for the luxury holiday gift market it was intended for, and in 1905 the standards were *koff* lowered and the gilt page edges and cover lettering vanished. But that made it possible for me to figure out my copy was one of the elite!)

Now sometimes the attempts to pretty-up a book went a little far, what with all the enamel and gems and whatnot. Who wants to curl up with a lumpy book that weighs 15 pounds? And won't play nice with the other books on the shelf?

Anyone have any pretty treasures to brag about?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:52 AM

Comments

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1 up to chapter 362 of First Contact!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 08:55 AM (VyBeY)

2 Morning, Sabrina.

Howdy, Horde.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 08:55 AM (q3u5l)

3 *Tap, tap, tap*

Is this thing on?

Posted by: First? at July 19, 2026 08:56 AM (2Ez/1)

4 other reading:

the Mr Gorzug series; pretty good stuff, lots of wisdom mixed in with the funny, recommended.

Zamyatin's "We", not sure why. Russian artists & poets sure got screwed by the October Revolution (which they supported), didn't they?

Appalachian Trail guidebooks - fantasy reading.

back later, maybe

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 09:00 AM (VyBeY)

5 Not much in the way of 'pretty' on this kid's shelves. But then except for encyclopedias I did most of my reading in battered library books and mass market paperbacks. By the time I started buying hardcovers, you really didn't see much in the stores except the current type trade volumes. Closest I get to ornate are a few volumes from Centipede Press.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:01 AM (q3u5l)

6 Can't think of a beautiful binding book in the collection, sorry.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 09:01 AM (VyBeY)

7 I tell you every thing is weird and confusing in "Central" land. Book thread posting at a strange time, the Perfessor not here. What kind of crazy place am I trapped in?

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 09:02 AM (1tpiU)

8 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 09:02 AM (yTvNw)

9 I don't have anything to compare to Sabrina's find, that's for sure.

All my books are "functional" rather than "ornamental."

I do have a few books that have slightly better binding, but that's as far as it goes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:03 AM (FZ29D)

10 I have been a bad reader lately

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (Ia/+0)

11 I tell you every thing is weird and confusing in "Central" land. Book thread posting at a strange time, the Perfessor not here. What kind of crazy place am I trapped in?
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 09:02 AM (1tpiU)
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Are pants even required here?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (FZ29D)

12 Last weekend, a few hours after the book thread ended, I saw the distinctive smoke plume of a newly-started forest fire. And I saw it from my front door. (not really, I had to walk a block away before the trees/buildings gave me a clear view, but the point stands.) That got me thinking: If I needed to evacuate, what would come with me? The answer, at least as far as books go, is 'not much.' As much as I love the books that line my house, only a handful of them would qualify as 'irreplaceable.'

Fortunately, the fire hasn't really gotten any closer to town, and has received a robust response from the appropriate authorities. It's still burning, but it will make national news if it reaches a point where my home is in actual danger...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (3v7ra)

13
*looks at top picture*

Ah! The Necronomicon from the movie, "Evil Dead Burn".

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (iJfKG)

14
"Promise Me, America" is a book title bathed in arrogance.

I have a couple of side bets about content, no one would take on the mentions of Beau.

Posted by: Auspex at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (Y8DZL)

15 Morning, Book Folken,

I was just editing my latest short story: removing some of the "-ly" words, addressing my quirk of beginning a sentence with "But" or "And," etc. Time ran away, and here the Book Thread was.

Currently I'm reading Stephen Hunter's historical crime story I, Ripper. It features excerpts from a diary written by Jack the Ripper, alternating with a newspaper reporter's account from 1912 of how he gave the serial killer his name and tried to track him down in the London of 1888. Grand stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (wzUl9)

16 Saw a couple books at the convention this weekend but wasn't feeling rich enough to buy anything

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:05 AM (Ia/+0)

17 Nice book in that top picture, but don't forget about me. I was the actual star of the show.

Posted by: And Allen at July 19, 2026 09:05 AM (1tpiU)

18 I tell you every thing is weird and confusing in "Central" land. Book thread posting at a strange time, the Perfessor not here. What kind of crazy place am I trapped in?
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026

***
The alternate timeline where Kirk did *not* save Edith Keeler?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:06 AM (wzUl9)

19 Hard to find a good leather bound Kindle these days.

Posted by: Or a phone app at July 19, 2026 09:06 AM (2Ez/1)

20 Although I've been reading regularly this past week, it's been slow going as each book is a bit of a doorstopper (over 600 or 700 pages each).

Those simply take time.

I'll have more to report in next week's Sunday Morning Book Thread.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:07 AM (FZ29D)

21 Skip, did you have a good time at the convention? Was there reenacting there? Miniatures? War Games?

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:07 AM (4VH0B)

22 Good morning again morons and thanks Sabrina

Saw Tom Stoppard's Leopoldstadt in Glencoe Friday night.

It was magnificent.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 09:08 AM (RIvkX)

23 I've usually found that the bindings from Library of America, Modern Library, and Everyman's Library hold up nicely. But these days a lot of hardcovers are harder to hold for very long (must go with being 29-and-then-some) and the print sizes used by the above-mentioned three publishers are harder on the eyes than they used to be (also a 29 thing). The kindle ain't pretty, but I'd be up a well-known smelly creek without it.

There are still a couple of bookcases of hardcovers here, though, because I liked the books and dammit I'm hanging on to them.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:08 AM (q3u5l)

24 Sorry about the non-traditional time. I am still figuring out the immense intricacies of the blog software. I may have forgotten the animal sacrifice part of the ritual ...

But now it is here and so are we! And the books.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM (Y9Vvl)

25 Are pants even required here?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (FZ29D)

***
The alternate timeline where Kirk did *not* save Edith Keeler?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:06 AM (wzUl9)

( shaking ) I'm not sure.

Wait! Edith is dead?

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM (1tpiU)

26 There are still a couple of bookcases of hardcovers here, though, because I liked the books and dammit I'm hanging on to them.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:08 AM (q3u5l)
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Preach it, brother!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM (FZ29D)

27 19 Hard to find a good leather bound Kindle these days.

You'd think so, but no.

https://tinyurl.com/9ctaay8f

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM (Riz8t)

28 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Sabrina, that is a beautiful binding, and fitting for a book of poetry.

I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:12 AM (h7ZuX)

29 Hey, I was good enough for your 4th grade English Grammar book.

Posted by: Brown paper grocery bag at July 19, 2026 09:12 AM (2Ez/1)

30 I finally finished reading "The Silmarillion." It was a slog. It's written with a deliberately arcane cadence, and it's just a summary of events, so there's usually not much of a 'story' to sink your teeth into. All too often it felt like the book was just throwing funny and way-too-similar names at me...

But I did enjoy the last couple chapters! The ones that had recognizable places and characters, that led into the events of Lord of the Rings. Those chapters I may re-read sometime. But the first two thirds...Now I can say that I read it, but I'm not likely to read it again.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:13 AM (3v7ra)

31 Continuing my boycott of Christopher Nolan's "Odyssey," last week I finished the late, great Dan Simmons' "Ilium" and am now reading the follow-up "Olympos." I have enjoyed them both immensely, they being a science-fictioning of the story of the Siege of Troy and surrounding events.

Next up will be "Cur Deus Verba," or "How the Word Became Words," by Jeremy Holmes. An explanation of how Christ's teachings became the Bible, I believe. Should he an interesting read.

Good morning, Booklings.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 19, 2026 09:15 AM (/RHNq)

32 27 19 Hard to find a good leather bound Kindle these days.

You'd think so, but no.

https://tinyurl.com/9ctaay8f
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM
+++++
Is it rich Corinthian?

Posted by: Ricardo at July 19, 2026 09:15 AM (2Ez/1)

33 Hey, I was good enough for your 4th grade English Grammar book.
Posted by: Brown paper grocery bag at July 19, 2026

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And for years after that. Once I did have some Man From U.N.C.L.E. book covers. They didn't last anywhere near as long as a grocery store paper bag.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:16 AM (wzUl9)

34 Would they bother to cover the 4th grade grammar books now? I don't recall seeing any brown paper grocery bags for quite a while.

Now THOSE were ornamental.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:16 AM (q3u5l)

35 If I needed to evacuate, what would come with me? The answer, at least as far as books go, is 'not much.' As much as I love the books that line my house, only a handful of them would qualify as 'irreplaceable.'
Posted by: Castle Guy

Interesting. I also only have one or two; One, a child's picture book of fables that was a present to my Mom from my Grandparents. And later, Mom read to me. It has absolutely stunning illustrations with beautiful color.

The other is a Journal kept by a Pennsylvania Dutch Pastor whom traveled between churches in the early 1800's. It is written in High German and describes his days and travels. He mentions certain locations that are very near my old family farm. I have two copies - one's cover is in tatters - broken, falling apart and degrading into dust. The other has a more modern cover. Probably late 1930's.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 09:16 AM (IUQak)

36 I will say that my set of the Britannica from 1984, bound in leather and with gold stamping on the spine, is a beautiful thing. And yes, I still do consult them from time to time, when my favorite search engine's AI delivers nothing -- or nothing but nonsense.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (wzUl9)

37 >>>I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Don't lick your fingers as you turn the pages.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (3oLMy)

38 Yay Book Thread!

Chateau Lloyd is host to many books with interesting and ornate covers, particularly Tolkien editions whose entire purpose is to sit there on the shelf and look pretty. We have paperbacks for actually reading, some of which have been badly abused by time.

I do think it's interesting that the phrase "can't judge a book by its cover" exists because most of the time, that is the author/publisher's goal. Stencil font with martial title: about war.

Script with Fabio holding a chick? Romance.

And of course the title: "The Sword of Length And Girth: A Tale of Faries Queers and Thorns Book 5" tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (ZOv7s)

39 Avi Feiglin, the son of Israeli politician Moshe Feiglin, runs a custom binding business. He learned the trade from his late grandfather, Rabbi Chayim Spring.

Gallery:

https://tinyurl.com/y3e4ztbc

YT video (Hebrew but you can get the translation):

https://youtu.be/UCfFNw_fxPo

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (w2sCY)

40 Tonypete, where did you come across that journal?

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:20 AM (4VH0B)

41 Not ostentatiously pretty, but there are a few books on my shelf that are just a joy to hold and to read because they are so well designed, both for having in your hand and reading from page to page. My copy of A.S. Byatt’s The Djinn in the Nightingale’s Eye (1996) comes to mind, and the much older “Black’s Readers Service” copy of The Works of H. Rider Haggard that includes “Cleopatra”.

They’re not overly engineered, they’re perfectly engineered.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 19, 2026 09:21 AM (sk9DV)

42 I try to be selective about buying well made books. Emphasis on 'try'. Sabrina is right. I will spend money on a beautiful presentation of a book that has meaning to me. The last few years I've picked up hardcover, often slip cased editions of:
- Treasure Island and Kidnapped
- The complete poetry of JRR Tolkien
- the Wingfeather series
- Dracula and other stories by Stoker
- the 3 volume prose Faerie Queene (which is magnificent)
- several others

My LOTR paperbacks from the 60s have long since disintegrated to be replaced by a few hardcover editions.

Part of the rationale for getting these better made editions is the sheer physical pleasure of reading from them. Part is these are books I hope to pass along to the next generations.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 09:22 AM (yTvNw)

43 On my TBR pile: We Sold Our Souls, a fantasy novel by Grady Hendrix, whose Satan Loves You I raved about last week; and two Stephen Hunters. G-Man features his long-running hero Bob Lee Swagger, with flashbacks to his father Charles's time with the FBI during the Depression.

The other, a WWII novel, is called Basil's War, featuring one Basil St. Florian, an accomplished spy in the British Army who goes undercover in Nazi-occupied France.

Odd, but my local suburban library had the Hunters under General Fiction instead of Mystery. I'd think the G-Man novel would qualify under mystery, or crime at least.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (wzUl9)

44 I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Don't lick your fingers as you turn the pages.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (3oLMy)
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What if you've been eating Cheetos?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (FZ29D)

45 Next up will be "Cur Deus Verba," or "How the Word Became Words," by Jeremy Holmes. An explanation of how Christ's teachings became the Bible, I believe. Should he an interesting read.

Good morning, Booklings.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 19, 2026 09:15 AM
*******

https://youtu.be/Xz_QEYwerkw

Posted by: Come and See at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (2Ez/1)

46 Last week, I read a graphic novel adaptation of "The Three Musketeers." This adaptation actually followed pretty closely to the original novel; D'Artagnan hired a servant, he took part in the siege of a castle like an actual soldier, and he didn't have a duel-to-the-death with that scarred (but not one-eyed) agent of Richelieu. The fidelity was refreshing. But it did drive home why so many adaptations change the story. This book in particular really benefits from being cleaned up. There were plot cul-de-sacs that didn't add much to the story, most of the characters could have acted a bit more nobly, and that ending...The climax of the book was 6 men condemning Milady DeWinter in an impromptu trial. Granted, Milady was evil and richly deserved her fate, but...The trial of a captured woman is not a worthy climax in a story about swashbuckling swordsmen! Changing the story to feature a duel-to-the-death with an enemy agent only feels natural...

But at least the art was good. Not excellent, but good. That alone puts this book above several other adaptations that were part of the same comic line.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (3v7ra)

47 I have no fancy books.

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (1tpiU)

48 That got me thinking: If I needed to evacuate, what would come with me? The answer, at least as far as books go, is 'not much.' As much as I love the books that line my house, only a handful of them would qualify as 'irreplaceable.'

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (3v7ra)
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My father inherited the love letters of his grandparents and typed them up and had them published in a hardcover with photos in the 1980s. Only perhaps a half-dozen copies exist.

I have the digital files and will at some point publish them for a larger audience. They are very interesting as they wrote often and it's an intimate portrait of acquaintances becoming friends and then engaged and finally married, only to be separated by the Great War. The stuff of epic romance, really, all tucked away in an attic for 50 years.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

49 I'm reading _The Sea Wolf_ by Jack London, but I confess it isn't really gripping me. The narrator is a whiner, and Captain Wolf Larsen is a bastard and a psychopath. Weirdly, he keeps mouthing Socialist tomfoolery which sounds like the sort of thing Jack London would endorse. I'm worried that the book will end with the whiny narrator realizing that socialist psychopaths are really the good guys.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (78a2H)

50 Biden's Dog, thanks for the link to Spring Bindery. Those are amazing books! I have never seen designs in gilt edges before. Beautiful!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (k+oif)

51 Journeys Through Bookland, the 192x printing had been on my shelf since I was knee-high to an ant, but only the first eight volumes. Definitely my favorite books growing up. Earlier this year, I discovered a full set, basically unread/mint, printed in 1910: black leather, gilt edges, beautiful.

If there is a fire, I will probably be in the basement, opening the window to start hucking these books out first.

Posted by: KnownIssue at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (5bj1g)

52 29 Hey, I was good enough for your 4th grade English Grammar book.
Posted by: Brown paper grocery bag at July 19, 2026 09:12 AM

Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: Heavy Duty Reynolds Wrap at July 19, 2026 09:27 AM (2Ez/1)

53 I read Pendergast: The Beginning, by Preston & Child.

I started Relic a couple of years ago, and didn't get interested, but I saw this and decided to give it a go. I really got interested, and now it's finished, and I want to read Relic, and the waitlist is months long on Libby, and it's not on Hoopla, and my library doesn't have a copy.

But I'm in that mood now, and nothing else is grabbing my attention. I've started and abandoned several other books after I finished Pendergast, and I only want Pendergast now!!

This is a FWP, isn't it?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:27 AM (h7ZuX)

54
Good morning again morons and thanks Sabrina

Saw Tom Stoppard's Leopoldstadt in Glencoe Friday night.

It was magnificent.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 09:08 AM (RIvkX)

We were in London last week and wanted to see a West End show.

Tom Stoppard's "Arcadia" was playing there, which I would've loved to have seen, buuut that's not really the lovely and delightful Mrs naturalfake's kind of thing, so-

We went to see the all-singin', all-dancin' revival of the music "Oliver!'.

"Oliver!" is very much a product of it's time. As a retelling of "Oliver Twist" it kinda just breezes through the highlights, but is just loaded with great tunes. It really had no ambition to do anything more than entertain you and send you into the night singing and tapping your toes.

Mission accomplished.
Loaded with the usual great English stage actors as well.

Check it out if you have the opportunity.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 09:29 AM (iJfKG)

55 Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:20 AM
Besides maybe my best game showing, wore my Russian shako as a 1812 musketeer so people seem to like to come up and ask about it. Lots of conversations on game rules and just talking to other people interested in history.
Hopefully back to Fall In in November

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:29 AM (Ia/+0)

56 Book adjacent: for her birthday, I bought the complete series of "Justified" for my youngest. We owned the first season, and she became addicted, and now we're binge-watching it.

I remember my mother being a huge fan of Elmore Leonard, and while this has me interested in his books, I also feel that the outstanding cast is integral to the experience, and so I'm holding back.

Well, that and the fact that I have lots of other stuff that I want to get through first, like City of God and the rest of the Graham Greene stuff I bought.

My bedtime book is Decisive Battles of the American Revolution, a trade paperback saved from oblivion because I used the margins for an amusing flip book in middle school. It's a good book on the merits, though. Can't recall the author and the cat will not be moved, so here I am.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:29 AM (ZOv7s)

57 Regarding the original post; there are no fancy covers on my shelf. Nothing with any 3-d elements like the second image. A trio of faux-leather bound books, but the rest are just typical hardcovers or paperbacks. And two books in a slipcase, which I really don't care about...

The only covers that really stand out are some custom-bound-comic hardcovers; they have art printed on the covers, which I put together in photoshop! One of the perks of commissioning a custom-bound book...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:29 AM (3v7ra)

58 37 >>>I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Don't lick your fingers as you turn the pages.

The saddest thing in The Name of the Rose was the burning of the library.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 09:30 AM (Riz8t)

59 @44 LOL, all of it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:30 AM (h7ZuX)

60 I have a large decorated white bound Bible I got for Christmas when I was in my 20's from my parents. I've never displayed it but it's nice to have.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 09:30 AM (tZeAA)

61 Still enjoying CJ Box's Joe Pickett series.
Thanks to the book threadist who recommended it.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 09:31 AM (2Ez/1)

62 AN ACTUAL BOOK REVIEW:

I recently finished reading "The Case for Colonialism" by political scientist Bruce Gilley. Published a few years ago, it is an expanded book version of his highly controversial 2017 academic article of the same name.

The author challenges the prevailing progressive consensus that mid-19th and 20th century Western colonialism (primarily British, French, German, Belgian, Dutch, and Portuguese) was an unqualified evil. He argues that many or most episodes of such colonialism delivered substantial net benefits to colonized peoples through expanded education, improved public health, abolition of slavery and other harmful practices, better administration, infrastructure, widened economic opportunities, and more rational governance.

(cont.)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 09:32 AM (w2sCY)

63 (cont.)

The book contends that it's actually anti-colonialism that has proven to be the greater threat to human rights and development in the 20th century. Gilley documents how premature decolonization and the rejection of colonial institutions by nationalist elites often led to economic decline, authoritarianism, corruption, and suffering in many post-colonial states. Gilley calls for a rethinking of colonial history based on empirical evidence rather than ideology, emphasizing a "civilizing mission" grounded in universal values.

That's not gonna happen, at least not right now.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 09:32 AM (w2sCY)

64 The best book cover I've got is my h.s. yearbook. I designed it. I managed to make it quite Soviet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 09:32 AM (RIvkX)

65 I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Don't lick your fingers as you turn the pages.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (3oLMy)
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What if you've been eating Cheetos?

Cheetohs, for a few moments, distracts the villein from fear. But law is imposed by fear, whose true name is fear of God.

Posted by: Jorge of Burgos at July 19, 2026 09:33 AM (Riz8t)

66 Stephen Hunter
Quit reading him after he inserted gratuitous gayness in a story.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 19, 2026 09:33 AM (0ztm9)

67 I'm reading _The Sea Wolf_ by Jack London, but I confess it isn't really gripping me. The narrator is a whiner, and Captain Wolf Larsen is a bastard and a psychopath. Weirdly, he keeps mouthing Socialist tomfoolery which sounds like the sort of thing Jack London would endorse. I'm worried that the book will end with the whiny narrator realizing that socialist psychopaths are really the good guys.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026

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Never read it; in fact I've read little of London aside from White Fang and Call of the Wild. And the latter was in the Whitman Young Readers edition, so it was probably edited. I remember the film version with Edward G. Robinson as Larsen, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:33 AM (wzUl9)

68 When a story is narrated by a dog, it has to be good. It is even better when the dog and his master are collecting various items to make magic charms. Roger Zelazny brings us the story of Snuff the dog in A Night in the Lonesome October.

Snuff is a watchdog. He watches things for Jack, like the things trapped in the mirror, and the thing in the wardrobe, and he keeps an eye out for Jack, since Jack is cursed. Jack only goes out by night, looking for certain items found in reasonably fresh graves, or in arcane gardens, as they are necessary ingredients for the charms Jack is working on.

As the story progresses, we meet other similar pairs, each an animal with their human, some working on charms to protect the world, and some working towards the opposite goal. Each animal is also trying to learn where and how this game is to be played out, and which teams will be on which side, for as the month of October comes to an end, they will all be in one location, where (and when) the portal can be opened, and the fate of the world will be at stake. As the story reaches its climax, the reader may be surprised as to which teams will be on which side on the thirty-first of October.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 09:34 AM (0U5gm)

69 Oliver: I recall the film version was well-cast, with Shani Wallis (whatever happened to her?) and Oliver Reed as a brutal Bill Sykes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:35 AM (wzUl9)

70 In line with this topic, the quality of most of the hardcover Rabbit Room Press books is special. The thought and care they put into the books they produce is obvious. I first noticed when I got a copy of "Lost Tales of Sir Galahad". Leather bound, embossed cover, quality paper, and print that doesn't require a magnifying glass. The ongoing Arthuriad by Malcolm Guite is similar. Their children's series, The Wilderking, has a hardcover edition along with the paperbacks.

As in my comment above, it's a combination of pleasure in handling, contents that are special and worth preserving, and sturdy enough to survive generations of reading.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 09:35 AM (yTvNw)

71 I started Relic a couple of years ago, and didn't get interested, but I saw this and decided to give it a go. I really got interested, and now it's finished, and I want to read Relic, and the waitlist is months long on Libby, and it's not on Hoopla, and my library doesn't have a copy.

This is a FWP, isn't it?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:27 AM (h7ZuX)
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Being the first book in the series, Relic does have a bit of "early installment weirdness."

I thought it was pretty good overall though, and Reliquary, the immediate sequel was even better.

Like many long-running series, it doesn't quite hit its stride until book 3 or 4.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:36 AM (FZ29D)

72 Got dragged to the Odyssey yesterday. It's not bad, but I'm probably not going to see it again.

The diversity-hire casting is basically forced on the moviemakers now by the Oscars requirements, so I shrug and lump it in with the fact that they're speaking English and have all their teeth.

One thing which saddens me is how all movies nowadays apparently have to require the audience to take sides. The response to the criticism "I thought some of the casting was screwy" should be "Well, I liked it," rather than "You're evil."

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 09:37 AM (78a2H)

73 When a story is narrated by a dog, it has to be good. It is even better when the dog and his master are collecting various items to make magic charms. Roger Zelazny brings us the story of Snuff the dog in A Night in the Lonesome October. . . .

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026

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I can't find much Zelazny at my local library. This book sounds particularly good.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9)

74 Beautiful books up there!

I have one old book that I received as a Christmas present this year: my grandfather's bible. Worth a lot - to me!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (X8xt3)

75 Not ostentatiously pretty, but there are a few books on my shelf that are just a joy to hold and to read because they are so well designed, both for having in your hand and reading from page to page.
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For this reason, I go out of my way to get early/mid century Modern Library editions. Perfect size and can occasionally find a leather bound.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (XvL8K)

76 I'm a jewelry fan, and jewelry books are always big and beautiful.

But my favorite is easily a set of Shakespeare, missing one book. They were brought by covered wagon to South Dakota by my sodbuster ancestors. No year given, because they're pre copyright.

Posted by: Wenda at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (u84c/)

77 I have the digital files and will at some point publish them for a larger audience. They are very interesting as they wrote often and it's an intimate portrait of acquaintances becoming friends and then engaged and finally married, only to be separated by the Great War. The stuff of epic romance, really, all tucked away in an attic for 50 years.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

I would read that. I'd want to see the original handwritten letters, too, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (h7ZuX)

78 TecumsehTea - one was my grandfathers' and another was given to me by one of my mom's cousins.

Now I have to locate them and caress them.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 09:40 AM (IUQak)

79 I recently finished reading "The Case for Colonialism" by political scientist Bruce Gilley. Published a few years ago, it is an expanded book version of his highly controversial 2017 academic article of the same name.
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Thomas Sowell is making some of the same points in Wealth, Poverty, and Politics, the importance of culture and cultural transmission in economic outcomes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 09:40 AM (RIvkX)

80 Be sure to read “There Will Come Soft Rains” by Ray Bradbury on August 4.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 09:41 AM (8l6/L)

81 I went into a big chain book store for the first time in a long time today.

They had a cafe, a game section, a gift section, and a toy section. It was sort of like being at the mall in the old days when you might have a Walden Books near the food court or at least an Orange Julius.

But...

I looked through the SF and Fantasy section and it was full of hacks and authors I've never heard of and reading the back covers the descriptions didn't sound promising.

So I went over to the library instead and got some Leiber and Saberhagen books instead.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:41 AM (sKqQm)

82 I have a very old book that guess its a reader teaching, it has text in both English and German. Don't remkember exactly when it was written other than 1800s.
Thinking to donate it to historical society as its should be preserved more than a book that will just be wasted sgfter I am gone

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:41 AM (Ia/+0)

83 Robert Burns died 21 July 1796, how old is that book?

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 09:42 AM (LHPAg)

84 Not ostentatiously pretty, but there are a few books on my shelf that are just a joy to hold and to read because they are so well designed, both for having in your hand and reading from page to page.
___________

For this reason, I go out of my way to get early/mid century Modern Library editions. Perfect size and can occasionally find a leather bound.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 19, 2026

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I have two on my shelf, Three Famous Murder Novels edited by Bennett Cerf, and Fourteen Great Detective Stories edited by Vincent Starrett. Bought them both from a local (and now defunct) bookseller when I was about fifteen. TFMN contains Before the Fact, that great portrait of a woman's marriage to a charming sociopath; the short stories volume has stuff all the way from Poe and Melville Davisson Post through Rex Stout, Ellery Queen, and even Cornell Woolrich.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:42 AM (wzUl9)

85 "the late, great Dan Simmons' "Ilium" and am now reading the follow-up "Olympos."
Posted by: Sharkman at July 19, 2026 09:15 AM (/RHNq)

Very much my favorite pair of books by Dan Simmons.

Posted by: 13times at July 19, 2026 09:43 AM (fnZRl)

86 55>>>Skip

Sounds like a lot of fun for you. It's nice to get away and have downtime doing something we enjoy.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:43 AM (4VH0B)

87
So I went over to the library instead and got some Leiber and Saberhagen books instead.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026

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Much better choices. Saberhagen's Empire of the East and his Books of Swords series are superior stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:44 AM (wzUl9)

88 LEBENSBILD aus dem Pennsylvanisch-Deutschen Predigerstand

Allentown, Pa. 1906.

My German fluency, which really never was, has entirely left me so now I have to kick my way through the journal slowly. But I wouldn't say painfully.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 09:44 AM (IUQak)

89
Half-Price Books used to be a great place to shop for older books, when it was run by hippies.

I was able to buy some first printings from favorite authors like Peter DeVries, Tom Sharpe, and Folio Society reprintings of Evelyn Waugh, PG Wodehouse and many others for a pittance.

In any event, they must've gotten acquired and now mostly carry Best-Sellers from the last ten years or so.

If you find anything neat, you usually have to wangle pretty hard with them to get a decent price. Booo!

The biggest surprises for me was finding a complete set of Henry Williamson's "Chronicle of Ancient Sunlight", which was one of the 99 Great novels of the 20th Century super cheap.

And a complete Set of "The Burton Holmes Lectures" Burton Holmes was a guy who travelled to the "exotic" countries way back when and then went around the country giving lectures long with a slideshow. Great photos and interesting if not politically correct viewpoints. Also dirt cheap.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (iJfKG)

90 My German fluency, which really never was, has entirely left me so now I have to kick my way through the journal slowly. But I wouldn't say painfully.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026

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The verb is often hiding at the end of the sentence.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (wzUl9)

91 I recently finished reading "The Case for Colonialism" by political scientist Bruce Gilley. Published a few years ago, it is an expanded book version of his highly controversial 2017 academic article of the same name.

Colonialism was a mixed bag for the colonized. The first point, and I find leftwingers pretty much always ignore this, is that it replaced one form of non representative government with another.

So, what is better local, primitive despots or distant advanced ones? Especially for societies that were still stuck in the tribal stage?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (sKqQm)

92 I would read that. I'd want to see the original handwritten letters, too, though.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (h7ZuX)
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My father retains the letters and I would include some photos of them as well.

What's really struck me is how "modern" their language becomes after they get married. At first it is very polite and then friendly, but after he's deployed to France, they speak pretty openly about sex and missing each other. He longs for "the twins" and she misses "Johnny."

That was why my father only made a handful of copies, handed out only to the older family members. His mother and her siblings did not approve of sharing that with the general public or the grandkids. I was the only great-grandkid to get a copy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:46 AM (ZOv7s)

93 Colonialism?

I still pronounce that nation with Kilimanjaro in it as "Keen-ya," as the British did, instead of "Kenn-ya." I must be an unreconstructed colonialist.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:47 AM (wzUl9)

94 Ay-yi-yi -- this is not how I wanted to start my latest year of life.

Oh, well.

I finished "Von Ryan's Express" by David Westheimer. It did involve a train, one that was to take nearly 1,000 men from an abandoned POW camp in Italy into Germany.

Col. Joseph Ryan, the senior POW officer -- derogatorily known to his charges as "Von Ryan" because he's a hardcase -- plans an escape that will require him to take over the train. His efforts make a gripping tale.

I wonder about the authenticity of the dialogue, however. The No. 2 POW leader, who was supplanted by Ryan because of rank, is British, and he seems to mention "Jerry" every 10 words. I know stereotypes have some basis in fact, but this is a bit much. On the other hand, I've learned a new term for a woman -- "frippet."

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (q9vMC)

95 Much better choices. Saberhagen's Empire of the East and his Books of Swords series are superior stuff.

And interestingly that is what I got...

As an aside with Empire of the East I mentioned to the yutes I know sometimes that when I was their age we had the possibility of a REAL apocalypse - a nuclear WWIII with the Soviets. You have anxiety because global warming might raise global temperatures in a century or something? What if you woke up tomorrow and it was 1M degrees in your local city center?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (sKqQm)

96 The verb is often hiding at the end of the sentence.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (wzUl9)

Quid?

Posted by: LINGUAM LATINAM at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (1tpiU)

97 Being the first book in the series, Relic does have a bit of "early installment weirdness."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:36 AM (FZ29D)

Yeah, it was probably that. The epilogue of Pendergast: The Beginning is an opening to Relic. So now I'm hooked in.

My mental image of Pendergast is that appraiser of Civil War artifacts on Antiques Roadshow, Rafael something. I know Pendergast is thin, and Rafael isn't, but it's my image and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:49 AM (h7ZuX)

98 What's really struck me is how "modern" their language becomes after they get married. At first it is very polite and then friendly, but after he's deployed to France, they speak pretty openly about sex and missing each other. He longs for "the twins" and she misses "Johnny." . . .

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026

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At one point Mrs. Wolfus No. 2-to-be and I wrote some love letters to each other. Our language was hardly so, uh, circumspect.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:49 AM (wzUl9)

99 The Burns book is from 1904. It isn't the oldest book I have; that honor belongs to a copy of Jerusalem Delivered a poem by Torquato Tasso, printed in 1770. The cover, alas, is gone (so not suitable for this post) but the paper is amazing. Old linen paper, yes, made from linen fabric scraps. That's why there used to be the "rag and bone men" that went door to door collecting fabric scraps for papermakers. It's more expensive but more durable. And it feels less brittle to the fingers when reading.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 19, 2026 09:50 AM (k+oif)

100 Reminds me. One of my older brothers graduated from a small liberal arts college in the midwest. In the 1970s The college yearbook has lots photographs of the residents of thr various dorms. Animal House wasn’t too far off. They seemed especially seemed proud of their Bongs, to a man. Artfully displayed album covers with Zig-Zag rolling papers and seedy Marihuana.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 09:50 AM (LSh5J)

101
I finished "Von Ryan's Express" by David Westheimer. It did involve a train, one that was to take nearly 1,000 men from an abandoned POW camp in Italy into Germany.

Col. Joseph Ryan, the senior POW officer -- derogatorily known to his charges as "Von Ryan" because he's a hardcase -- plans an escape that will require him to take over the train. His efforts make a gripping tale.

I wonder about the authenticity of the dialogue, however. The No. 2 POW leader, who was supplanted by Ryan because of rank, is British, and he seems to mention "Jerry" every 10 words. I know stereotypes have some basis in fact, but this is a bit much. On the other hand, I've learned a new term for a woman -- "frippet."
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026

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I first read VRE when I was in high school, and loved it. Never had I seen the Frank Sinatra film, though, until about two months ago. Verdict: Skip it, stick with the novel.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:51 AM (wzUl9)

102 Still not doing much in the way of Big Serious books this past week. (Sorry, Fyodor.) Revisited Don Robertson's novel Make a Wish. Went through a semi-abandoned project of my own and figured maybe, just maybe, I can do something with it after all. Decided the other day that it had been too long since I read Bradbury and started Fahrenheit 451 yesterday evening.

Focused? Me? Smile when you say that.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:51 AM (q3u5l)

103 And though there only occasionally, at work are on a town public library job. It was the local firehouse and getting turned ito library. So hopefully someday if not a picture from me will get one somehow for this very thread

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:52 AM (Ia/+0)

104 ... Sea Wolf_ by Jack London, but I confess it isn't really gripping me. The narrator is a whiner, and Captain Wolf Larsen is a bastard and a psychopath.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026

The first half of the book differs significantly from the second half of the book. I won't say how, but was very disappointed.

Posted by: 13times at July 19, 2026 09:52 AM (fnZRl)

105 18-1,

Your library still had Leiber and Saberhagen? Count your blessings.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:54 AM (q3u5l)

106 About the best and most ornate books that I have are a collection of Folio editions - which I bought in the 1980s when the most expensive releases were +/-$100. I also have a 1920 edition of "Old French Fairy Tales" by the Comptesse de Segur and illustrated by Virginia Frances Sterrett. It was originally a Christmas present to a little boy named Markie, who was the youngest son of the wealthy family that my maternal grandfather worked for. He was an invalid, and died young - my mother was his age, and often brought to their enormous Pasadena mansion to play with him, as he could not go to school, or out much at all. The book eventually came to me, and a friend of a friend who was into hobby bookbinding redid the spine and signature stitching. The illustrations are lovely and very 1920 Erte style.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 19, 2026 09:54 AM (Ew3fm)

107 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 09:56 AM (u82oZ)

108 The Young Washington movie frequently mentions his letter writing.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 09:56 AM (2Ez/1)

109 I'd read Von Ryan's Express in high school as well, after seeing the Sinatra picture.

Yes, the book's better. But the flick's worth a watch just for Trevor Howard.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:56 AM (q3u5l)

110 Not as fancy as some hardcover editions but I like what is called 'flexibound' books. These are hardcover but flexible. Penguin Clothbound Classics is a good example. My favorite modern version of Canterbury Tales from Nevil Coghill is one. My reading copy of LOTR is the same approach but leather, like some Bibles, instead of cloth. The flexibound style also makes it easy to open the book completely flat, adding to the comfort.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 09:57 AM (yTvNw)

111 Speaking of Germans, I ran across this quote from a German author/jurist named Ernst-Wolfgang Bockenforde: "The liberal secular state lives on premises that it cannot itself guarantee"

He was both a Catholic and a Social Democrat and apparently he sees the problem with the latter.

And the left has yet to solve this problem as we see with the Somali Learing centers here in the US...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:57 AM (sKqQm)

112 I don't have a lot of very old books, but I do have a framed map pulled from an 1855 atlas. It is entitled "British, Russian, and Danish possessions in North America." It shows Russian Alaska, Greenland, and the 30 odd provinces that Canada had at the time, like Churchill and Abitibi.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 09:57 AM (0U5gm)

113 Good morning, Sabrina and Horde.

I have an entire bookcase of olde tomes, some inherited from my father, most bought by me because I got bit by the antiquarian bug early. My prize find as a teen was a big edition of "Paradise Lost" with Doré illustrations on almost every other page. It's not that difficult to find, but it blew me away and spoiled me for drab paperback versions of literature. Many 19th Century novels with gilt edging and engravings, and works by Victorian explorers with maps and illustrations.

On the cheesier end of vintage reads, I love old SF books with lurid covers. And that pulpy smell means a quality experience!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 09:58 AM (kpS4V)

114 How about culture being downstream of genetics which is downstream of environment?
Are there any works on culture as an expression of genetics?

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 09:58 AM (T8bqm)

115 Speaking of Von Ryan's Express, its author, David Westheimer, a few years earlier wrote an adaptation of JP Miller's teleplay/screenplay for Days of Wine and Roses. It is excellent. Even if you didn't know about or had never seen the movie, the novel adaptation is powerful and effective.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:59 AM (wzUl9)

116 >>>78 Tonypete
Those are priceless! So cool.

MrTea's grandfather served, in WWI. He wrote home a lot and his mother saved all the letters. This side of DH family is very into ancestry/genealogy and family history. The letters somehow got to a professor in SD, who turned them into a book and also speaks about them, and the war. I keep meaning to buy a copy and then share about it here but I never seem to get around to it. I think some readers here would be interested in it, too.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:59 AM (4VH0B)

117 It shows Russian Alaska, Greenland, and the 30 odd provinces that Canada had at the time, like Churchill and Abitibi.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 09:57 AM (0U5gm)
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Cooool!

I need to look this up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (kpS4V)

118 I'd read Von Ryan's Express in high school as well, after seeing the Sinatra picture.

Yes, the book's better. But the flick's worth a watch just for Trevor Howard.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026

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+ 100

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (wzUl9)

119 Rag paper lasts incredibly well. In college I was allowed to look at — and handle — a copy of Copernicus's book _De Revolutionibus_ with annotations and cross-outs by the Holy Office. It must have been nearly 400 years old and was in fine shape. Meanwhile some of my books from the 1960s shed pages every time I read them.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (78a2H)

120
I finally finished "Consider Phlebas" by Iain M Banks.

I put it aside because I got a little tired of his usual organization of his Culture novels.

Usually Banks starts with a mission that winds up having a bunch of side-quests, which may or may not have any relevance to the story or mission at hand.

Now, he's a good writer and the last oh, 4th or 5th of the novel just zooms for doom and unhappy endings.

But, after reading 3 in a row, I sort of knew what to expect.

If you want a good idea of what his "Culture" series is all about, "Consider Plebas" is a great place to start.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (iJfKG)

121 Still reading Washington: A Life by Ron Chernow.

General Washington is trying to defend New York City. The attack by the British is yet to come.

Well written, with surprise information in the story. I though I knew the story of the Revolutionary War well, but I was wrong.

Martha Washington is a part of the story here. Her importance to keeping George going is quite revealing. She spent almost half the war with George.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 10:01 AM (u82oZ)

122 76 ... "But my favorite is easily a set of Shakespeare, missing one book. They were brought by covered wagon to South Dakota by my sodbuster ancestors."

Wenda, Those volumes are special, especially for the family. Louis L'Amour mentions in a few of his stories, based on research, that books on the frontier were valued for their contents and appeal to everyone. When there is little room for books as pioneers moved west, they took only the best. Sounds like your family's situation.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:02 AM (yTvNw)

123 As an aside with Empire of the East I mentioned to the yutes I know sometimes that when I was their age we had the possibility of a REAL apocalypse - a nuclear WWIII with the Soviets. You have anxiety because global warming might raise global temperatures in a century or something? What if you woke up tomorrow and it was 1M degrees in your local city center?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (sKqQm)
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Anyone remember "Twilight: 2000?" Imagine high school kids literally playing a game that will take place when they are in their 20s about scrounging gas and ammunition to fight the Soviet remnant after all the missiles have launched.

My friends and I played GDW's Third World War games where you could drop tactical nukes all over central Europe. Nuclear war wasn't some imagined thing your grandkids will deal with, it was a practical problem to be solved.

Gen X is just built different.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:03 AM (ZOv7s)

124 88>>> Tonypete
Is that journal handwritten, or has it been typed out?
How can you read the old German script? Our son teaches HS German, and is fluent in reading and speaking (you'd be surprised that some language teachers are NOT) and he struggles with reading that old High German script.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 10:04 AM (4VH0B)

125 Cooool!

I need to look this up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris

Believe it or not, Abe Books has a copy of it, do a search for:

ORIGINAL 1855 COLTON'S HAND COLORED MAP OF NORTHERN AMERICA BRITISH, RUSSIAN & DANISH POSSESSIONS
Published by J. H. Colton & Co., 1855

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 10:06 AM (0U5gm)

126 I played those GDW Third World War in Europe games in the 1980s. My friend/opponent and I both agreed the A-10 aircraft units were ridiculously overpowered. Then we got to see them in action in the first Gulf War and realized the game was spot-on.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:08 AM (78a2H)

127 The fanciest book I ever owned was a the red leather hardback expensive edition of "The Lord Of The Rings" in a box slipcover. Also the matching green one of "The Hobbit." They collected dust on the bookshelf for decades until I decided I was never going to actually read them, preferring my ancient Ballantine paperback ones (with the covers that aligned into one full picture) and gave them away. Now I have them on Kindle but the paperbacks are a sentimental favorite and I love the smell of yellowing old paper.

Just finished up new-to-me author Jennifer Milliken's "Here For The Cake" which was a nice, sweet romance with some good twists. Immediately acquired some more of her work, she's a keeper. I wish I could write characters like she does...

Posted by: tankascribe at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (NtoJk)

128 Good morning all
Did a lot of reading this week.
First
Decided to check out the mystery book club at the library. Book is You Are Fatally Invited by Ande Pliego. It is her first book so surprised about the choice. It brings a bunch of mystery writers to an island retreat where (obviously) one gets murdered. It sounds like it is going to be like every other book, movie you have ever seen or read but it is quite good. Actually thinking about taking pen and paper and making lists so I can figure out who Dunn it.The meetup is on the 28th so I am really curious about what it will be like.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (kJmSS)

129 Another great WWIII game from way back when...Fortress America

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (sKqQm)

130 I confess the only book I’ve had rebound is Pappy Eromero’s King James Bible. Mama gave it to him in 1965-66. Re-binding cost about $100 or so in 96.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (LHPAg)

131 I really enjoyed Ardath Mayhar's slender novel "The World Ends in Hickory Hollow". A husband and wife, former farm kids who later ditched the big city and returned to their old homesteads in rural Texas, find themselves uniquely able to weather the aftermath of an atomic war. They were so isolated that the resulting power outage didn't even register until days in. News off the airwaves is patchy, and then pretty much nonexistent.

They've rounded up a passel of abandoned seniors who have the old wisdom necessary to see them through low tech times. Things are looking survivable until they run into a clan of violent nut jobs who only want to destroy.

Did I learn about this book at the HQ or Sarah Hoyt's joint? In any case, thanks to whoever.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:11 AM (kpS4V)

132 Another great WWIII game from way back when...Fortress America
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (sKqQm)
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Yes, but not as good as Shogun, which we used to play every Saturday night.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:11 AM (ZOv7s)

133 The original journal was transcribed to print at some point by the author's sons. (The Helffrich brothers) and, I assume, had a very limited published run. It is not printed in the old German script - it seems to just be a 'modern' typeset. The chapter titles and dates associated with the title are in the old script however.

One thing I noticed long ago - certain names of some of the faithful that the Pastor ministered to are redacted - a blank is shown instead of the name. Reading the stories one can see why. The Pastor pulls no punches when relating what folks have confessed to or relayed to him.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 10:12 AM (IUQak)

134 Fortress America is a fun game, though the premise makes no goddamned sense at all. One oddity is the random nature of reinforcements. I always thought the USA player should have at least some idea of what's in the pipeline. Also: they turn up in the damnedest places, so that there's no real strategic significance to real-world industrial centers.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:13 AM (78a2H)

135 Rag paper lasts incredibly well. In college I was allowed to look at — and handle — a copy of Copernicus's book _De Revolutionibus_ with annotations and cross-outs by the Holy Office. It must have been nearly 400 years old and was in fine shape. Meanwhile some of my books from the 1960s shed pages every time I read them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (78a2H)
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University libraries often have very old relics. The kind of books you can only handle while wearing special white cotton gloves so that you don't get your oils all over them.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 10:13 AM (FZ29D)

136 Oh and also I remember played Gulf Strike which was a Victory Games offering focused on the middle east during the last cold war. Some of the scenarios you could play:

Iran-Iraq War
USSR invades Iran
Iran invades Gulf States
and...
Iran tries to close Hormouz.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (sKqQm)

137 Colonialism was a mixed bag for the colonized. The first point, and I find leftwingers pretty much always ignore this, is that it replaced one form of non representative government with another.

So, what is better local, primitive despots or distant advanced ones? Especially for societies that were still stuck in the tribal stage?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (sKqQm)
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What you're mostly describing is pre-mid-19th century colonialism. The author touches on the vast differences to modern colonialism.

It's not so simple. There were numerous cases where modern colonialism met with the approval of the general populace. It was more like "Welcome the new boss - nowhere as horrific as the old."

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (w2sCY)

138 I played those GDW Third World War in Europe games in the 1980s. My friend/opponent and I both agreed the A-10 aircraft units were ridiculously overpowered. Then we got to see them in action in the first Gulf War and realized the game was spot-on.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:08 AM (78a2H)
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When I put together an operational-level wargame for the Air Force, I borrowed heavily from the airpower rules in the Third World War series. It was well received, but of course my efforts to standardize USAF wargaming came to naught because a retired O-5 civilian at HAF feared it would destroy his rice bowl. The LeMay Center staff loved my work, though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (ZOv7s)

139 On the cheesier end of vintage reads, I love old SF books with lurid covers. And that pulpy smell means a quality experience!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 09:58 AM (kpS4V)

I have a similar penchant for pulp mystery novels. So, my favorite bindings tend to be pretty delicate, as cheap paperbacks don't age well. But I love them.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:15 AM (h7ZuX)

140 Tonypete

That sounds so interesting.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 10:16 AM (4VH0B)

141 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Sorry to be late, but it's another one of those days when waking up is a huge disappointment.

The only thing I've read recently was Pamela Hutchinson's The Curse of 'Queen Kelly', a behind-the-scenes look at the never-finished, never-released 1929 Erich von Stroheim / Gloria Swanson film.

I'm reading it for inspiration, and it's helping a bit. It is not, however, a book for the casual movie fan. You have to really have an interest in silents to enjoy it.

The author doesn't shy away from showing what a rotten bastard Joe Kennedy was, either.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:16 AM (qRla/)

142 Impressive book binding
Thanks Sabrina!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (WL2lA)

143 The postapocalyptic TTRPG Gamma World is one of the things that made me a conservative.

Seriously: I tried to map out the devastation from a nuclear strike, to see what the tiny islands of civilization would be in a sea of destruction.

Instead what I found was that whole continents would be untouched.

Which meant that when people began to describe nuclear disarmament as necessary for the survival of the species, I became skeptical of their motives, and have remained so ever since.

I get flashes deja vu for the 1980s anti-nuke movement whenever I hear activists describing AI and data centers as existential threats.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (78a2H)

144 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:11 AM (kpS4V)

Thanks, Eris, for The World Ends In Texas. I immediately thought of Corsicana.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (LHPAg)

145 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 09:56 AM (u82oZ)
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In trying to keep on topic, I say "book 'em, Danno!"

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (w2sCY)

146 Oh and also I remember played Gulf Strike which was a Victory Games offering focused on the middle east during the last cold war. Some of the scenarios you could play:

Iran-Iraq War
USSR invades Iran
Iran invades Gulf States
and...
Iran tries to close Hormouz.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (sKqQm)
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Back in the day I owned Battle for Germany and Southern Front, and finally bought Persian Gulf, which has the starting scenario and a diplomatic 'card game' to keep things interesting. The map is horribly out of date given all the development in the Gulf since then.

I set up the maps, but it's unpunched and I couldn't bring myself to mar its perfection.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

147 University libraries often have very old relics. The kind of books you can only handle while wearing special white cotton gloves so that you don't get your oils all over them.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I recall that my university library had a first or second edition of the works of Edgar Allan Poe published prior to the civil war just sitting on the shelves.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 10:18 AM (0U5gm)

148 @46, I tend to think that Dumas was showing us the struggle which these fellows have with summoning the moral courage to do what is right, even though it goes completely against their deeply ingrained sense of protecting and cherishing women. Milady is seething with sheer evil, and they know it. Yet, they quail beneath the task, even though they have faced and killed/wounded countless men in battle. This is entirely different, and they would have failed, letting Milady to continue her evil had Athos not remained constant.

Sometimes doing the right thing is terrible.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 19, 2026 10:18 AM (gbWHQ)

149 Second
I had asked here about John Sandford. I had acquired one of the ,ast books in his Lucas Davenport series and wondered if I should start with book 1. Eromero said Do It. Reading Rules of
Prey. I am already a fan. Lucas, a jaded, brilliant police detective is the best liar in all of fiction. His ability to manipulate everyone around him including the multiple women who can't quit him to help him solve the crime is fascinating. That Sandford has birthed this incredibly complex character right out of the gate has me hooked.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 10:20 AM (kJmSS)

150 It's not so simple. There were numerous cases where modern colonialism met with the approval of the general populace. It was more like "Welcome the new boss - nowhere as horrific as the old."
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (w2sCY)
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Colonialism was the default excuse for every corrupt tyrant to blame someone else for their mismanagement. It's like "systemic racism" - deflects blame and requires an impossible to achieve solution to solve the problem.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:21 AM (ZOv7s)

151 Which meant that when people began to describe nuclear disarmament as necessary for the survival of the species, I became skeptical of their motives, and have remained so ever since./i]

The anti-nuke groups both those opposing nuke power and nukes weapons were all funded and controlled by the Soviets.

The anti-datacenter people are a mixed bag. I'm sure we'll find they are being funded by China, but I opposing data centers is a natural conclusion based on pre-existing environmentalist arguments. Of course the amusing thing is the American leftwing oligarchs funding the environmental movement have invested heavily in data centers and are telling the environmentalist to shut up.

So who wins the Chinese or the American oligarchs? Hard to say...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:21 AM (sKqQm)

152 @101 --

I saw the movie first, and that made me want to read the book. Oldest son and his wife found a copy, minus dust jacket, at a library sale in their city and surprised me with it a few years ago.

I tried to guess what the cover looked like. Searched for the book on eBay, and I was right -- men standing on a boxcar.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 10:22 AM (HapY3)

153 Thanks, Eris, for The World Ends In Texas. I immediately thought of Corsicana.
Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (LHPAg)
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Me too!

My library's interlibrary loan service found a copy for me. Highly recommended.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:22 AM (kpS4V)

154 There were numerous cases where modern colonialism met with the approval of the general populace. It was more like "Welcome the new boss - nowhere as horrific as the old."

Posted by: Biden's Dog

There is a conversation recorded in Blood River where the author is talking to a captain on a barge hauler on the Congo River, who asks about the effects of colonialism on Africa. The captain points out that Singapore and Malaysia were former colonies, and they have skyscrapers and formula one races. "Colonialism isn't the problem" was the captain's point of view.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 10:23 AM (0U5gm)

155 I am about to be shanghaied off to the local Museum of Art. It's not a bad jaunt, actually . . . except for the heat and the bad streets I have to drive on to get there and come back. The A/C in the museum, I have reason to know, is *cold,* and so I'll bring a sweater.

No idea what kind of art they are featuring this month, but I know they have both old-fashioned representational art and the "modern" kind we often sneer at (sometimes unfairly) on the Art Thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:23 AM (wzUl9)

156 Trimegistus

I was amused by the series of three divisional level defend NATO and Germany from the Red Army games by Dunnigan.

The first game, NATO, shows the Soviets pushing back NATO forces easily, but then American reinforcements hold Western Germany.
World War III has Soviets taking over France with the Allies defending Spain and Britain. This is the premise of the official 1949 war plans revealed in
Dropshot[i/] by Anthony Cave Brown.
The last, The Next War: Modern Conflict in Europe, has the Soviets stopped easily by NATO Forces.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 10:24 AM (u82oZ)

157 I recall that my university library had a first or second edition of the works of Edgar Allan Poe published prior to the civil war just sitting on the shelves.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 10:18 AM (0U5gm)
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Michigan State's library had all of Lovecraft's work in the Special Collection because they were stolen so frequently. You go down, check in your backpack and all possessions, are given a pencil and a sheet of paper upon request, and then sit at a bare table and read your book under the watchful eyes of the staff.

None of them were rare editions, they just were stolen so often that replacement was a pain.

MSU also has one of the largest collections of comic books, which would have been cool if I gave a damn about them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:24 AM (ZOv7s)

158 Colonialism was a mixed bag for the colonized. The first point, and I find leftwingers pretty much always ignore this, is that it replaced one form of non representative government with another.

So, what is better local, primitive despots or distant advanced ones? Especially for societies that were still stuck in the tribal stage?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (sKqQm)

The way it strikes me is that being colonized really sucks for the generation that is being colonized. There doesn't seem to be too many exceptions to this. However, depending on what culture is doing the colonizing, it can bring some benefits to the generations that come after the new rule is established.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 10:25 AM (3v7ra)

159
MSU also has one of the largest collections of comic books, which would have been cool if I gave a damn about them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026

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I doubt I'll ever be up that way, but -- Any of the old Silver Age DC Comics series like Batman and Jimmy Olsen?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9)

160 Yikes.

Off to the Barrel.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 10:26 AM (u82oZ)

161 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:16 AM (qRla/)

Here's something not disappointing for you. My niece is eagerly awaiting your next Theda Bara novel. Any way to get a signed copy for her?

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:27 AM (1tpiU)

162
Zamyatin's "We", not sure why. Russian artists & poets sure got screwed by the October Revolution (which they supported), didn't they?...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 09:00 AM (VyBeY)

I suppose that I feel sorry for the Russian creative types, who supported the Russian Revolution and then got totally screwed.

After all, the Commies were a "new", scientific system of gov't. How could they fail?

Though on the other hand, if the Russkie artistes had paid a little bit of attention to what the 7 Deadly Sins are, they probably could've figured things out way ahead of the censorship and prison camps.

It's a bit like John Cleese grousing now in his dotage about how England is being destroyed when he spent his career deriding and tearing down that society himself. I was just joking isn't quite the excuse he thinks it is.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 10:28 AM (iJfKG)

163 There is another element to the data center brouhaha: location. Many of these are being located well away from urban areas in rural communities that don't want them. In Michigan, the Dems taking total control of state government resulted in them abolishing local zoning laws so that they could plan windmills, solar panels and data centers wherever they want.

Michigan is chock full of brownfields. Mere miles away from me there is a massive bare patch of ground where Fisher Body and the Verlinden Plant used to be, conveniently located next to massive utility and water. Why not build there? Why pave farmland?

That's the issue around here.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:28 AM (ZOv7s)

164 Third
I started Ilona Andrews newest This kingdom Will Not Kill Me. Maybe got 10 pages in and gave up. It is like they(she writes with her husband) started a whole new genre based on gaming. Their last one The Inheritance is similar and also gave up on it. Their last characters are boring and the story line makes no sense, just keeps roaming around. Sad because I really liked her writing in the past.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 10:30 AM (kJmSS)

165 I doubt I'll ever be up that way, but -- Any of the old Silver Age DC Comics series like Batman and Jimmy Olsen?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9)
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No idea, but it is one of the largest holdings in the world, so probably.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:31 AM (ZOv7s)

166 53 ... "I want to read Relic, and the waitlist is months long on Libby, and it's not on Hoopla, and my library doesn't have a copy."

DMLW,
I'm surprised your library doesn't have Relic. You can often find used paperback copies of the Pendergast books on Amazon or used book stores for under three bucks. The Kindle prices are often ten dollars or more, which is a bummer.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:31 AM (yTvNw)

167 Well, time to get going. Thanks, Sabrina!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:31 AM (ZOv7s)

168 I'm in a rural area myself and it's a little shocking to watch the astroturfing in real-time. We've got local activists laying the groundwork to oppose hypothetical data centers nobody's even proposed yet.

Neville Roy Singham's paying for it.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:32 AM (78a2H)

169 Here's something not disappointing for you. My niece is eagerly awaiting your next Theda Bara novel. Any way to get a signed copy for her?
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:27 AM (1tpiU)

Well! Thank her for me.

The novel is still a couple of months away from publication. When it's out, I'll announce it here on the Bool Thread, and you can send me her address then.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:33 AM (qRla/)

170 I have to go chop firewood for winter now.

I tell my lefty friends I burn wood "to reduce my carbon footprint" and they all nod sagely in agreement.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:34 AM (78a2H)

171 And I think I'll call it a day.

Hope you all have a wonderful Sunday.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:34 AM (qRla/)

172 No idea, but it is one of the largest holdings in the world, so probably.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026

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MSU's Comic Art Collection pages do list a lot of the JOs and Batmans.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:36 AM (wzUl9)

173 I was saying Boo-urns.

Posted by: Hans Moleman at July 19, 2026 10:36 AM (0aYVJ)

174
I'm in a rural area myself and it's a little shocking to watch the astroturfing in real-time. We've got local activists laying the groundwork to oppose hypothetical data centers nobody's even proposed yet.

Neville Roy Singham's paying for it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:32 AM (78a2H)

Ugh.

This is "No Nuclear Power Plants" all over again.

With the same result that we as a country are once again crippled by the most ignorant and retarded among us by their votes.

Great.

Don't follow Bond Villain's ploys, people!

Smarten up!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 10:37 AM (iJfKG)

175 I have always avoided Harlan Coben, maybe because he's so popular and definitely, in part, because he allows scumbags like Blow Job Billy to co-author books with him, or so I thought until I looked it up and that was James Patterson.

https://tinyurl.com/3zzcpx6h

(Although he does have some questionable collaborators. https://tinyurl.com/2x2x8end)

Anyway, I broke down and am reading Coben's Nobody's Fool and it's a real page turner. During his after graduation European vacation during which he meets a girl in Spain, he wakes up next to her dead body covered in blood. He gets the hell out of Dodge but the incident haunts him for decades particularly when a second girlfriend is murdered. He turns to alcohol which results in disgrace and unemployment. Then he sees his dead Spanish girlfriend up and walking around . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 10:37 AM (ndZc7)

176 In the Saint short story "The Water Merchant," written in the late 1950s, Simon Templar opines that colonialism was a good thing and that the Europeans should have fought to keep their holdings. He also fires a broadside at foreign aid. It matched my views perfectly.

This is in the collection "The Saint to the Rescue."

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 10:38 AM (6coSf)

177 The novel is still a couple of months away from publication. When it's out, I'll announce it here on the Bool Thread, and you can send me her address then.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:33 AM (qRla/)

Thanks, I'll email it.

Well , the central land people want to go somewhere so I'll finish the thread later.

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:39 AM (1tpiU)

178 Dear horde, although I haven't been around as much as I once was as much as I once was, I have always valued this community. Long story short, I now have a fast acting form of ovarian cancer and my ptognosis is not good. Don't feel bad for me- i went from leading a normal life 2 weeks ago to dealing with almost unbearable nausea and weakness. Death will be a relief.my great concern is tying up loose ends with my will and funeral expenses. With the youth in this country falling for socialism, maybe its a good time to go. God bless Ace and the horde.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

179 We've got local activists laying the groundwork to oppose hypothetical data centers nobody's even proposed yet.

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There's a data center under my bed!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (ndZc7)

180 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v

Prayers up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 10:41 AM (ndZc7)

181 With all the argybargy and foofaraw over Nolan's Odyssey, I thought I'd dig out my own sets off the shelf. The first one is a Scholastic Books version (remember them?) I read in elementary school, "The Adventures o Ulysses", with groovy illustrations. The cover blurbs prove they know who they're appealing to -- bloodthirsty kids!

"Circe -- the beautiful witch who turns men into pigs!
The Tree Monsters -- cannibal giants that look like trees!
The Sirens -- hideous bird-women who lure sailors to their death!
Scylla -- an enormous spider with twelve legs and six heads - and a wild greed for human flesh!"

I also have a boring adult Homer with translation by Samuel Butler. Is this considered a good version?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:42 AM (kpS4V)

182 All prayers appreciated.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:42 AM (9cZci)

183 I have a beautiful Barnes & Noble edition The Count of Monte Cristo, but my old books were affordable foe their day. My grandmother passed on the 1830 well-worn edition of Walter Scott's Lady of the Lake, which is embossed leather but with an off-center title on the spine (probably how my great-grandparents could afford such a treasure)

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 19, 2026 10:43 AM (fXG//)

184 Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)
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My sincerest condolences, Donna.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:43 AM (kpS4V)

185 MSU also has one of the largest collections of comic books,
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

A library next to a river, literally, a cool place.

Posted by: Auspex at July 19, 2026 10:43 AM (Y8DZL)

186 And interestingly that is what I got...

As an aside with Empire of the East I mentioned to the yutes I know sometimes that when I was their age we had the possibility of a REAL apocalypse - a nuclear WWIII with the Soviets. You have anxiety because global warming might raise global temperatures in a century or something? What if you woke up tomorrow and it was 1M degrees in your local city center?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (sKqQm)

Days ending in -y for kids growing up in the 1980s.

Then came 1989.

Both were very formative of my world view. Spending time in Germany did not hurt matters.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 10:44 AM (4g5V+)

187 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v
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God Bless

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 10:44 AM (3oLMy)

188 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

Oh dear. So sorry. Sending prayers.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 10:44 AM (0aYVJ)

189 Writer's Block: When your imaginary friends don't take to you.

Posted by: clarence at July 19, 2026 10:45 AM (1QT7n)

190 I also have a boring adult Homer with translation by Samuel Butler. Is this considered a good version?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:42 AM (kpS4V)

I read the Robert FitzGerald and W.H.D. Rouse translations and have a copy of the latter.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 10:45 AM (4g5V+)

191 178 ... Donna&&&&,
Prayers for your comfort and peace of mind.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:45 AM (yTvNw)

192 160 Yikes.

Off to the Barrel.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 10:26 AM (u82oZ)

Here, take these!

*hands NaCly a tub of Clorox wipes

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:46 AM (h7ZuX)

193 Donna&&&&&, The Peace of The Lord be upon you and see you into your Father's loving arms.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 10:47 AM (abScH)

194 I read Donna&&&&&&v’s post…on the anniversary of my father’s funeral. He was taken by cancer.

So it has to be said.

Fuck cancer.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 10:48 AM (4g5V+)

195 @168, I can absolutely agree with that. One of my pastimes in my retirement has been attempting to lure businesses to my newly (7 years) found home. The County in which it sits is about average sized, yet very, very sparsely populated. Like less than 10,000 for the whole county. Early on I looked at the "Data Center" people, and decided to move in that direction: Low footprint, little traffic/disruption, nice tax revenue. What's not to like? I then began interacting with these companies, traveling to meet with them, actually inspecting their existing facilities, and looking at presentations of their future (late 2024) facilities. All of them involved closed-circulation cooling, and most of them included their own power generation capacity. This was before all of the recent hoo-hah, of course, and they knew that the grid was insufficient, thanks to Obama and Biden, and that self-sufficiency was paramount.

Singham's lies are ridiculous, and prey on ignorance.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 19, 2026 10:48 AM (gbWHQ)

196 Commies destroying farmland destroys their enemies economic culture.
The marginal fields around here are getting solar farmed. The Navy base and rocket labs are getting a battery farm just in case.
Ripping all of that infrastructure out to grow winter wheat and potatoes makes no economic sense.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 10:48 AM (T8bqm)

197 Oh, Donna&&&&&&, my heart goes out to you. Prayers up for you and those you love. I am so sorry to hear this.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 10:49 AM (4VH0B)

198 Good morning from the Left Coast. Looks like another "No sky July" day here in the Bay Area, although the fog may burn off this afternoon.

Almost finished with Pyrates. I find I'm enjoying its absurdities so much I'm reluctant to finish it. Does anyone else have that problem--not wanting a book to end?

Posted by: March Hare at July 19, 2026 10:49 AM (O/GSq)

199 Almost finished with Pyrates. I find I'm enjoying its absurdities so much I'm reluctant to finish it. Does anyone else have that problem--not wanting a book to end?
Posted by: March Hare at July 19, 2026 10:49 AM (O/GSq)
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All the time.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 10:50 AM (FZ29D)

200 In my neck of the woods, a data center might actually be in one spark of economic life around here.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 10:50 AM (4g5V+)

201 DMLW,
I'm surprised your library doesn't have Relic. You can often find used paperback copies of the Pendergast books on Amazon or used book stores for under three bucks. The Kindle prices are often ten dollars or more, which is a bummer.
Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:31 AM (yTvNw)

I'm in a small, rural town. I could get it through interlibrary loan, and may do that, but I'm only home on weekends. Should probably get a library card in the city, where I stay with Mom during the week.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:51 AM (h7ZuX)

202 I just finished reading Dan Simmons Carrion Comfort, nearly 900 pages long. But he's such a good writer I finished it quickly. Now I'm reading some short stories by Elizabeth Moon along with Karl Jaspers' Socrates, Buddha, Confucius, Jesus: The Paradigmatic Individuals. Wouldn't recommend it.

Posted by: Blahblahblah at July 19, 2026 10:51 AM (ca+Gv)

203 Donna&&&&&, thank you for letting us know. May the journey ahead be as peaceful and comfortable as possible and remember that if it’s God’s will, miracles do happen.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 19, 2026 10:52 AM (EiUt/)

204 with the special Sabrina Chase exemption for those stylish persons preferring kilts

Och, seo boireannach aig a bheil fios cò mu dheidhinn a tha i.

Posted by: Angus McAngusface at July 19, 2026 10:52 AM (0sNs1)

205 Prayers up.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 10:53 AM (q3u5l)

206 Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)
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I prayer for your comfort and strength to accomplish your task. God bless.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 10:53 AM (tZeAA)

207 181 ... "I also have a boring adult Homer with translation by Samuel Butler. Is this considered a good version?"

The Butler version is considered to be good from what I've read in reviews but make sure it's the unabridged version. The Barnes and Noble hardcover classics edition is the Butler version. I prefer the Fagles translations.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:56 AM (yTvNw)

208 Donna of the ampersands, thank you for letting us know. God's will be done, and a better place awaits. Prayers up for you for recovery if possible, but peace and joy in your remaining time, if not. We love you.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:57 AM (h7ZuX)

209 Prayers for you, Donna&&&&&&v. That's an awful diagnosis.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 19, 2026 10:58 AM (fXG//)

210 I'm not a fan of data centers being built where their power needs will negatively affect their neighbors and also turning good land into crap.

Locate all the necessary data centers in the blue city shitholes instead of farmland and beautiful 'hydro sources' .

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 10:58 AM (tZeAA)

211 Thanks for book thread tending, Sabrina.

I'm still on Robert Jordan re-read. I'm into The Shadow Rises, which is one of the better books in the series, largely because it focuses on Rand and the Aiel people, who are interesting. The Aiel have some real thought put into them, of course they are a blend of historical cultures (their adoption of the assegai short spear is well justified in-narrative) but they're neat.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2026 10:58 AM (xcxpd)

212 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

So sorry to hear that Donna, prayers for strength to you.
We'll miss you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2026 10:59 AM (xcxpd)

213 Nothing too fancy here, but I do have a first edition of Out of Africa that's pretty good looking. Not much reading as we were on a road trip around Lake Michigan with a detour to Lake Superior at Marquette.

Posted by: Who Knew at July 19, 2026 11:00 AM (+ViXu)

214
Locate all the necessary data centers in the blue city shitholes instead of farmland and beautiful 'hydro sources' .
Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 10:58 AM (tZeAA)

The small town nearest me has a good amount of empty space that can be turned into a data center.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 11:01 AM (4g5V+)

215 200 In my neck of the woods, a data center might actually be in one spark of economic life around here.

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Yep. Those server stacks buy a lot of groceries and cafe lattes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 11:02 AM (6/7Fs)

216 The Rouse translation of the Odyssey is a prose translation and IIRC, pretty easy reading. This was the one I read in high school, Signet Classics edition I think, and it shouldn't be hard to find either new or used (yet another book I should revisit). Don't know why, but I've always bogged down in verse translations.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:03 AM (q3u5l)

217 Yep. Those server stacks buy a lot of groceries and cafe lattes.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 11:02 AM (6/7Fs)

I don’t know about the cafe lattes here though…: )

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 11:03 AM (4g5V+)

218 Prayers for you Donna.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 11:04 AM (2Ez/1)

219 Other than the ultra-premium editions aimed at collectors, most of today's "hardcovers" are just paperbacks with slightly thicker boards (pages glued rather than sewn, etc.). You're lucky if they last one reading.

Not worth the money, IMO.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:09 AM (IG3/x)

220 I finished "Von Ryan's Express" by David Westheimer.

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A similar book you might like is Kings Go Forth by Joe David Brown, a novel based on his experiences during the Champagne Campaign in southern France. Like VRE, it was made into a so-so movie starring Sinatra, Tony Curtis, and Natalie Wood. The author was a disabled vet and did not view the war fondly. The plot concerns a forward artillery observed attempting to find a way to break through the enemy lines.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:11 AM (ndZc7)

221 > Yep. Those server stacks buy a lot of groceries and cafe lattes.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 11:02 AM (6/7Fs)

They pay a shit-ton of property taxes, which is not nothing.

Loudon County, Virginia is home to some big Amazon, Microsoft, and Google data centers (and many smaller players).

Data centers take up 4% of the land area, but pay a full 38% of the property taxes. Nearly a billion dollars per year.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:14 AM (IG3/x)

222 Data centers take up 4% of the land area, but pay a full 38% of the property taxes. Nearly a billion dollars per year.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:14 AM (IG3/x)

4% of taxable land area? Because if so that doesn't make sense they pay 38% unless they have a different tax rate.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:21 AM (tZeAA)

223 They're building one of those data center things in Montgomery County, MO-- a rural county not too far from STL, and the people are ecstatic about all the new jobs.

Me last week: "The Medici: Power, Money and Ambition in the Italian Renaissance," by Paul Strathern. I'm learning a lot about Renaissance art, as a result. It's kind of a Learing Center.

I read somewhere that Venice has a permanent population of a few hundred thousand people-- and gets 5 million tourists a year. As a result, it's easy to find a Carnival mask and souvenir shop, but hard to find a grocery store.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:24 AM (RCjYY)

224 Donna, I'm praying for you and a miracle. Don't spend too much energy worrying about the gross retards in this messed up country "falling for socialism," or reading too much stupid news about them here... it's always a waste of time anyway, and your time is more precious than most people's now.

I've always enjoyed your comments here but I don't want to see them if it's just depressing you... godspeed, and best of luck with whatever comes of this illness.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 11:24 AM (BI5O2)

225 > 4% of taxable land area? Because if so that doesn't make sense they pay 38% unless they have a different tax rate.
Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:21 AM (tZeAA)

Property taxes are generally assessed on the total value, not just the value of the raw land.

A data center full of high end computers is worth a hell of a lot more than the same-sized cow pasture.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:26 AM (IG3/x)

226 Kilts???
Kilts are allowed?
Well. Dang!
BBL
*heads for closet*

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 11:29 AM (2WIwB)

227 Sabrina,
Thanks for the topic and showing us that gorgeous book.

In a very small way I regard my books as a sort of Library of Alexandria where the knowledge and entertainment is worth preserving. Not just classics of literature and history but fun reads like the Matt Helm books and Nero Wolfe stories. Even ephemora like the MASH Goes to ... books, Doc Smith's Lensman series, and cozy mysteries have value if only for light entertainment.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 11:29 AM (yTvNw)

228 Meanwhile, in a bookstore in LA . . .

https://tinyurl.com/4zz8jh7e

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:30 AM (ndZc7)

229 They're building one of those data center things in Montgomery County, MO-- a rural county not too far from STL, and the people are ecstatic about all the new job---

Those would be mostly temporary during construction. It's my understanding that Data centers don't have a lot of permanent positions.

Anyway I understand both sides of the issue but just lean toward the same position I have for green energy companies locations.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:30 AM (tZeAA)

230 178 Donna

My prayers up too.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:31 AM (RCjYY)

231 175 I have always avoided Harlan Coben, maybe because he's so popular and definitely, in part, because he allows scumbags like Blow Job Billy to co-author books with him, or so I thought until I looked it up and that was James Patterson.

Jor Blob Billy.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 11:31 AM (DXbAa)

232 Oh damn Donna.
Hitting my knees for you.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 11:32 AM (2WIwB)

233 JTB, I think a Venn diagram of our holdings would damn near be a single circle.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 11:32 AM (p/isN)

234 Most areas are more than happy for a data center built near by.
More goods and services for everyone. And so much money for greedy politicians to grift.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:32 AM (3oLMy)

235 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:26 AM (IG3/x

I'm aware. So the data center is the only industry or business in the county?

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:33 AM (tZeAA)

236 Donna, terrible news. Hope peace in mind comes to you

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 11:33 AM (Ia/+0)

237 “Trimegistus

I was amused by the series of three divisional level defend NATO and Germany from the Red Army games by Dunnigan.“

I believe that’s the game where the rules say, if nukes are released, douse the map in lighter fluid and light it.

Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at July 19, 2026 11:34 AM (U/7CP)

238 I'm heading to church in a few minutes. Donna, you'll be in my prayers today.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 11:34 AM (p/isN)

239 226 Kilts???
Kilts are allowed?
Well. Dang!
BBL
*heads for closet*
Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 11:29 AM (2WIwB)

A Kilt and a Sporran. The forms must be obeyed.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 19, 2026 11:35 AM (6W6ju)

240 >>>Those would be mostly temporary during construction. It's my understanding that Data centers don't have a lot of permanent positions.
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Construction has always been that way. It's a contract job. When the job is finished you move on to the next one. You may not remember what it was like before the regulators and commies took over.
Construction was a boom and moving from job to job was a given.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:37 AM (3oLMy)

241 I read "Galahad and the Grail" by Malcolm Guite.

I never read much in the way of epic poems. A little Homer and an little Anneid.

This is in English and it is a delight.

Kind of pricey, but there are illustrations. It really was a fun read.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 11:37 AM (qFwJc)

242 I found several years back at an estate sale, a set of small "how to design and build infrastructure" books issued by the US government (from back when they knew how to do that)

They have a nice textured binding of some sort, and engraved titles on the cover, I think.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 19, 2026 11:38 AM (9C1ml)

243 Texas Democrat candidate wants to get paid for her story idea but it sounds shifty to me.

https://tinyurl.com/49ekezck

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:38 AM (ndZc7)

244 228 Meanwhile, in a bookstore in LA . . .

https://tinyurl.com/4zz8jh7e
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:30 AM (ndZc7)

She's no Talarico.

Posted by: The DNC at July 19, 2026 11:39 AM (6W6ju)

245 243 Texas Democrat candidate wants to get paid for her story idea but it sounds shifty to me.

https://tinyurl.com/49ekezck

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
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If it's a Democrat there's grift involved.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:40 AM (3oLMy)

246 Anonosaurus at 243,

Are you sure that 'shifty' re: that link isn't a typographical error?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:41 AM (q3u5l)

247 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:37 AM (3oLMy)

Thus the description 'temporary' . Once a data center is built the jobs mostly go away. But as RB indicated above, the tax revenue going forward is a positive.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:41 AM (tZeAA)

248
She's no Talarico.

Posted by: The DNC
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She must be an only fans girl.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:41 AM (3oLMy)

249 Construction has always been that way. It's a contract job. When the job is finished you move on to the next one"

Hey, gotta paint the bridge. Again.

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 11:42 AM (cGjQu)

250 228>>>>Meanwhile, in a bookstore in LA . . .

https://tinyurl.com/4zz8jh7e

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19

so, looked at the church website. How to give money, testimonies, sign up for this or that. NO statement of faith/beliefs.

hmmmmm

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 11:43 AM (4VH0B)

251 I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

New York Post
@nypost
Body found at home owned by 'Squad' Rep. Ayanna Pressley's husband

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Not a bad thriller opening, though.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:44 AM (ndZc7)

252 Jobs go away sounds as if the construction workers no longer have a job. Their job has not gone away it's been relocated to a new construction site.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:45 AM (3oLMy)

253 Frankly, I don't get the "OMGDATACENTRRRR" handwringing... it's just the latest bugaboo...

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 11:45 AM (cGjQu)

254 Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

Prayers for you and your family.

Posted by: dantesed at July 19, 2026 11:46 AM (Oy/m2)

255 so, looked at the church website. How to give money, testimonies, sign up for this or that. NO statement of faith/beliefs.

hmmmmm
Posted by: TecumsehTea

I did the same and found the same. There are hours and hours of her sermons on YT but I'm not hours and hours interested.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:46 AM (ndZc7)

256 Body found at home owned by 'Squad' Rep. Ayanna Pressley's husband"

So she has no ownership interest in the property?

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 11:46 AM (cGjQu)

257 Maybe not a bad thriller opening, but these days the only story coming from that with any chance of acceptance would involve an Evil Right Wing Conspiracy aimed at discrediting the Squad's noble campaign for justice in all things. Murder probably committed by the Evil President himself.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:47 AM (q3u5l)

258 >>Hey, gotta paint the bridge. Again.

Posted by: man
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Much work to be done on the west coast when things are straightened out. It will be Boom States rush to the west all over again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:47 AM (3oLMy)

259 Any man what reads a book while eating Cheetos and licks his fingers and turns any page spends a night in the box.

Posted by: Carr, the Floorwalker at July 19, 2026 11:48 AM (6W6ju)

260 Anonosaurus Wrecks,

Can't always tell beliefs by sermons anyway. Wolf in sheep's clothing and all that.
If you are grounded in the Trinity and believe the Bible is the Word of God, well, those are your front and center pieces of information. If not . . . beware.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 11:49 AM (4VH0B)

261 Montgomery County, MO LOBBIED for its new data center-- the ones Hochul banned statewide in NY.

I'm sure CA will follow suit. It already ran off almost all its oil refineries. Why not just make everything except the Malibu beach colony and San Simeon into a theme park? California World.

Remember, Newsome is still the "the working families' governor," though.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:50 AM (RCjYY)

262 Much work to be done on the west coast when things are straightened out. It will be Boom States rush to the west all over again."

True.

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 11:51 AM (cGjQu)

263 ... and so another Book Thread wanders off unsupervised. I must go Do Things. May you all find a good book to read and the time to properly enjoy it!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 19, 2026 11:51 AM (Y9Vvl)

264 Donna,
My prayers are with you.

Miracles do happen. I had the very same diagnosis over thirty years ago. I tell my daughter she saved my life, because she was sixteen and good at it, and I was determined to live long enough for her to grow past that awful angry stage.

And here I am.

May you be as lucky.

Posted by: Wenda at July 19, 2026 11:54 AM (u84c/)

265 Sabrina at 263,

No shortage of good books, at least. I'm reminded of the joke about the mosquito in the nudist colony: "I know what I want to do, I just don't know where to start."

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:54 AM (q3u5l)

266 Are you sure that 'shifty' re: that link isn't a typographical error?
Posted by: Just Some Guy

Damn autocucumber!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:55 AM (ndZc7)

267 in my prayers Donna

Posted by: barbarausa at July 19, 2026 11:56 AM (enw9G)

268 And off to create more chaos here at Casa Some Guy.

Thanks for the thread, Sabrina.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:57 AM (q3u5l)

269 BTW, Hubs & I saw Young Washington in the local movie theater. this weekend. I thought it was a balanced look at Washington, showing his growth into manhood and leadership.

It's an Angel film, so doesn't have widespread distribution or marketing budget. Casting is excellent and I was surprised to see Mary-Louise Parker and Ben Kingsley in significant roles, although not starring. It's important that quality films be supported, especially by those who bemoan the dreck coming out of the major studios.

Now I have to read Ron Chernow's biography of Washington!

Posted by: March Hare at July 19, 2026 11:59 AM (O/GSq)

270 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

Will say a prayer for you...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 11:59 AM (IJqbQ)

271 265

Deadpan comedian Norm Crosby used to say he was worried because he had a date with Elizabeth Taylor later that night. "I know what's expected of me. I just don't know how to make it interesting."

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:59 AM (RCjYY)

272 241 ... "I read "Galahad and the Grail" by Malcolm Guite.
I never read much in the way of epic poems. A little Homer and an little Anneid.
This is in English and it is a delight.
Kind of pricey, but there are illustrations. It really was a fun read."

So glad you found it and like it. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, Rabbit Room Press is making this and the follow on volumes high quality. Those Stephen Crotts woodcut illustrations are wonderful and the poetry is addictive. The next volume comes out in November. I've already preordered the regular edition, for a reading copy, and the fancier, slip cased volume just to have.

Be careful about looking at the resources Guite includes at the end. They lead to a warren of rabbit holes to get lost in.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 12:00 PM (yTvNw)

273 Donna of the Ampersands, thank you for your book recommendations over the years and my thoughts and prayers are with you.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 19, 2026 12:01 PM (y171U)

274 WE HAZ A NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:01 PM (Ia/+0)

275 Now I have to read Ron Chernow's biography of Washington!
Posted by: March Hare

I've had that biography on order with Amazon for several weeks now. Still back ordered.

Posted by: Tuna at July 19, 2026 12:01 PM (lJ0H4)

276 Nood illegal alien thread.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (InJki)

277 nood!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (VyBeY)

278 You're all waiting for me to tediously report that I have completed reading 'The Brothers Karamazov'. Nope. 2/3 through though.

Pulled a copy of 'The With the Dragon Tattoo' from a local little free library, and read it this past week. Also, am 90% done with 'Mr. Finchley Discovers His England', Canning.

The latter, light, entertaing reading. Especially so if you have spent any time in England.

About Little Free Libraries, I can think of at least 5 in the neighborhood. More within easy driving distance. Are there as many where you live, or is this a local sort of thing?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (XeU6L)

279 Donna of the ampersands, thank you for letting us know. God's will be done, and a better place awaits. Prayers up for you for recovery if possible, but peace and joy in your remaining time, if not. We love you.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:57 AM (h7ZuX)

I second that. Donna, I am happy to have met you a few years ago. Do not give up, please fight this evil thing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (1z8ji)

280 I watched this video recently. It was one of those times you start watching something, it grabs your interest even though you don't have the time, but watch it anyway.

There is a woman in Norway who is a bit eclectic. but, extremely talented. She decided to take the entire book series of Brandon Sanderson, and create GIANT Tomes out of the books using raised leather bindings and covers. Well, watch if you find this kind of thing interesting. At the end, she presents them to Sanderson at a book signing in the US.

https://tinyurl.com/nhcz4zdh

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:04 PM (dIske)

281 a copy of 'The With the Dragon Tattoo'
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'The Girl', dammit.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:04 PM (XeU6L)

282 I need spell check....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:05 PM (XeU6L)

283 Donna - My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:08 PM (XeU6L)

284 I'm a few chapters into the The Theoretical Minimum by Leonard Susskind and George Hrabovsky. It's a popular treatment of Classical Mechanics but without losing the math. I really enjoyed the Calculus refresher.

I bought it in hopes it can help answer questions I've had for decades about angular momentum. It feels like angular momentum contradicts normal inertia. There is something so weird about rotation. All those little atoms moving in the same way, changing direction together, like a flock of birds.

And the right-hand rule is just offensive. Why do two orthogonal vectors produce another vector in a direction unrelated to both of them? I mean okay in math you can define anything, but why should the universe listen?

And somehow angular momentum is related to particle spin? And btw particles aren't literally spinning . . . are they? And why is it nearly integral, like +/- 1/2? But it's also a vector, right? So spins are oriented.

Is it all just a lie funded by Big-L?

If I figure it out, maybe I'll try to figure out polarity of light next. As if we measurement wave amplitude in inches!

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (rcENI)

285 Oh uh. Maybe this will help.

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (rcENI)

286 buhbye frammish

Posted by: Buck Ofama, K4WTJ at July 19, 2026 12:33 PM (z6ONu)

287 And btw particles aren't literally spinning . . . are they?
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Uh...curious that NMR and MRI work.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 01:04 PM (XeU6L)

288 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

Adding my voice and prayers for you to the list, Donna.

Posted by: March Hare at July 19, 2026 01:37 PM (O/GSq)

289 Pretty things on my shelves : Japanese Fairy Tales by Lafcadio Hearn - printed on silk crepe so it feels pretty also.
Friendship in Death - Elizabeth Rowe with a fore-edge painting of Badminton Hall
and many beautiful bookplates, ornate and simple beauties like the four volume french translation of Don Quichotte whose plates simply say "This book belongs to E.M. Forster".

Posted by: puckle at July 19, 2026 02:06 PM (dtgAf)

290 "This book belongs to E.M. Forster".
Posted by: puckle
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Remarkable. I'm always drawn to vintage books that have bookplates, or, definitive insriptions. I have often searched for identifiable previous owners based upon such. It lends a historical interest in the physical book.

Bookplates are rather expensive, which has kept me from acquiring such, but as a sort low-brow alternative I had an ink stamp made up which simply says 'From the library of Mike Hammer, Asheville, NC'. It seems a bit crass, but it is my feeble grasp at immortality.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 02:56 PM (XeU6L)

291 reply Mike Hammer
Not low brow at all, trust me ive seen some very low brow bookplates in the upper classes books. Forster's were so simple and cheap i thought they were fakes. Ink stamps are a great solution I use them on donations and business cards, catalogs. Some of the most beautiful bookplates Ive seen are simple linocut prints and thats something anyone can do at home on the cheap. Im trying to limit my bookplate collecting to known spies, so far I have two including Sylvanus Griswold Morley the inspiration for Indiana Jones.

Posted by: puckle at July 19, 2026 03:16 PM (dtgAf)

292 I have often searched for identifiable previous owners based upon such. It lends a historical interest in the physical book.
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An example 'The Works of Voltaire', printed 1927.

Bookplate, 'Ex Libris W. Kendrick Pritchitt 1929'

Turned out to be a very interesting fellow, Obit:
https://shorturl.at/RTW3g

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Daily Tech News 18 July 2026

Top Story

Nvidia's 5000 Super graphics cards are lined up on the runway ready to go as soon as someone breaks the news to the passengers that the price of their tickets just tripled. (Tom's Hardware)

Or less obliquely, the 3GB memory chips used for the Super models are three times the price of the standard 2GB chips.

Which is STUPID because the GPUs already support two banks of memory and Nvidia could more cheaply produce a 24GB RTX 5070 Super than an 18GB version.

AMD should make mainstream 24GB and 32GB cards just to mock their rivals.
Speaking of AMD, the company launched its Ryzen 7700X3D CPU at a price of $329 last weak, making it something less than a bargain because the 7800X3D is available cheaper than that. (Tom's Hardware)

You can now pick up a 7700X3D for $279.

Worth pointing out the the previous generations 5800X3D runs to $349.

Tech News

The AGI AI828 contains no AI at all; it's just an SSD. (Tom's Hardware)

And an expensive one; it's a DRAMless PCIe 4.0 design, and the 1TB model costs as much as a 4TB Team brand SSD I bought in March.

Welcome to the 21st century. Enjoy the ride. The complimentary barf bags are in the seat pocket in front of you. Yes, there are a lot of them.
Korean outfit 2P Game Arcade is hosting a competition for games that fit entirely on a single 1.44MB floppy. (Tom's Hardware)

Plenty of room. Why, that's 1.6 Amiga floppies!
Of which around 15,000 can be downloaded from the Amiga Freeware Archive. (Amiga Freeware)

Which used to be a lot, but that was long ago and in precisely the same country.
Kimi is the latest menace to the domestic threat of communist AI creators from foreign communist AI creators. (Tech Crunch)
Meanwhile, OpenAI's head of strategic futures Dean Ball said that Kimi is "a very good model" whose performance probably can't be "explained away by distillation or anything like that," adding that he's "personally surprised the Chinese state continues to allow the open sourcing of models this good, given potential risks."
Right. Sure.
China's Kimi K3 identifies itself as Claude, betraying its distilled origins. (WCCFTech)

You were saying, Bean?
AMD's upcoming 10 core Zen 6 laptop chip stomps all over AMD's existing 10 core Zen 5 laptop chip in new benchmark leaks. (WCCFTech)

In fact, it stomps all over AMD's existing 12 core laptop chip. It's not even close. It comes in as 33% faster than the equivalent Zen 5 chip in multi-core tests, and 35% faster single-core.

Since I'm writing this on a Zen 3 system and the latest hardware I have is Zen 4, it looks like a pretty substantial jump.

Musical Interlude

Disclaimer: You're never too old to rock and roll.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:35 AM

Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 04:35 AM (74zY1)

2 w00t

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:36 AM (6wpGE)

3 Early morning Boing!

Busy day ahead?

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:36 AM (Oom6t)

4 Disclaimer: You're never too old to rock and roll.

Or:

Wikipedia, Grace Slick:

During a 1998 interview with VH1 on a Behind the Music documentary featuring Jefferson Airplane, Slick, who was never shy about discussing the process of getting old, said that the main reason she retired from the music business was that "all rock-and-rollers over the age of 50 look stupid and should retire."

In a 2007 interview, she reiterated: "You can do jazz, classical, blues, opera, country until you're 150, but rap and rock and roll are really a way for young people to get that anger out", and, "It's silly to perform a song that has no relevance to the present or expresses feelings you no longer have."

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:41 AM (6wpGE)

5 https://tinyurl.com/4s7kr5pd

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (BLOW1)

6 I will not claim to be savvy on the details of CPU and GPU chips, particularly the speeds and applicability of various benchmarks but it seems from Pixy’s comments that progress in building faster chips has slowed? Or is there a subtlety that I am missing? Power consumption is certainly up.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (Oom6t)

7 5 https://tinyurl.com/4s7kr5pd
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (BLOW1)

The jury is out?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:45 AM (6wpGE)

8 Early morning Boing!

Busy day ahead?

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:36 AM (Oom6t)
-

Nope. Exercised and freshened up early, at 10AM, due to the belated heat wave arriving from Europe. Not the end of the world in any case. Tomorrow should reach 93F in Jerusalem, where the humidity is relatively low compared to, for example, the coastal plain.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 04:45 AM (74zY1)

9 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 04:46 AM (v9vY1)

10 moar covfefe

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:47 AM (6wpGE)

11 It’s interesting that as the World, at least digitally, gets smaller the time zone differences play out in funny ways. That and insomnia. Getting too easy to never unplug.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:55 AM (Oom6t)

12 Mornin , glories.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 04:59 AM (abScH)

13 Hey Ben Had,

Life treating you well?

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:07 AM (Oom6t)

14
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 19, 2026 05:09 AM (AMvSw)

15 11 It’s interesting that as the World, at least digitally, gets smaller the time zone differences play out in funny ways. That and insomnia. Getting too easy to never unplug.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:55 AM (Oom6t)

Resistance is futile.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 05:09 AM (6wpGE)

16 Pete Bog, it is indeed. Hope you and L&T are well also. The renovations all done ?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:09 AM (abScH)

17 Hello, I must be going.

Before Phil Collins there was this:

https://tinyurl.com/3b8jjz4m

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at July 19, 2026 05:12 AM (Q/FnY)

18 6 I will not claim to be savvy on the details of CPU and GPU chips, particularly the speeds and applicability of various benchmarks but it seems from Pixy’s comments that progress in building faster chips has slowed? Or is there a subtlety that I am missing? Power consumption is certainly up.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (Oom6t)

The impression I get is that there is an All Of The Above effort by everyone to keep the consumer market engaged, when all the latest and greatest memory is getting sucked up by AI datacenters (and they're plodding down the DDR# curve). Just one example is how the processor companies continuing and even reactivating production for older CPUs and graphics chips, which also use an older style of memory (lower DDR#) that households might still be able to afford.

They are still progressing with smaller processes and faster chips, but really just for servers, since the associated memory is bid up to prices ordinary consumers would not be willing to pay.

Posted by: SciVo at July 19, 2026 05:13 AM (Sy6m/)

19 It’s interesting that as the World, at least digitally, gets smaller the time zone differences play out in funny ways. That and insomnia. Getting too easy to never unplug.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:55 AM (Oom6t).

I'm trapped in a weird time loop called Central. Nothing is as it should be. I may not be able to make the book thread. This place confuses and frightens me.

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 05:16 AM (1tpiU)

20 I do plan to buy a Zen 6 CPU to upgrade my existing Zen 4 chip, if it turns out as good as reports are saying. The 12-core X3D version should be a big jump while still supporting the same motherboard and RAM.

As for building new systems - no. Unless you stockpiled RAM and SSDs last year, that's out of the question.

(Yeah, I stockpiled RAM and SSDs last year. But I did leave it to the last minute after reporting on it purely as a story for a couple of months.)

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 05:17 AM (BLOW1)

21 17 Hello, I must be going.

Before Phil Collins there was this:

https://tinyurl.com/3b8jjz4m
Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at July 19, 2026 05:12 AM (Q/FnY)

1930!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 05:19 AM (6wpGE)

22 renovations all done ?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:09 AM (abScH)

Next week starting to build a fence around the orchard. 8 feet high. I’ve concluded you can have a fence quickly or you can have it look good. Both are equally expensive. Hoping to get it in before the deer discover the trees again.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:19 AM (Oom6t)

23 tech:

Bonchie retweeted
Andrew Kaczynski
@KFILE
19h
anytime i see AI slop I immediately check if they complain about data centers use of electricity

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 05:21 AM (6wpGE)

24 oh, my

Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
6h
And who wouldn't want Hunter Biden's endorsement.

Marco Foster
@MarcoFoster_
14h
Hunter Biden: “I look at Zohran Mamdani and I go: there’s a leader. He made promises and you know what he did? He kept them. He’s lowering rent, he’s building co-op grocery stores, pre-kindergarten. That’s all people care about. He’s really, really good”

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 05:26 AM (6wpGE)

25 The 12-core X3D version should be a big jump while still supporting the same motherboard and RAM.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 05:17 AM (BLOW1)

Now I need a motherboard decoder. Sounds like the memory chip boom will last longer than the AI Datacenter build out skeptics say it will. Consumers will be ready to upgrade before the memory prices collapse. Will inference at the edge require faster consumer and end user systems?

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:26 AM (Oom6t)

26 Pete Bog, I take it that fruit picking season and deer hunting season don't coincide. Deer, having grazed on apple would be a nice finish.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:26 AM (abScH)

27 Deer, having grazed on apple would be a nice finish.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:26 AM (abScH)

Between antler sharpening on the trunks and trashing all the fruit they can kill an orchard in a flash. Opener is October 15th for us. Unlikely I will have time to bring you any fresh venison for the MoMe.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:32 AM (Oom6t)

28 - Good morning

Always read pixy's stuff. Why I don't know. Oh, I know what a CPU is. And the hard drive is I think that silver looking disc. Chips? Maybe those black, square and rectangular things soldered to boards.

But on the whole, when I read his/her posts, I feel like a guy on the group W bench when the seargent starts talking to them.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 19, 2026 05:33 AM (dAv7M)

29 Mamdani, " I am going to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY" campaign promise.

Mamdani now " I am exploring every legal option to see if it is possible to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY"

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:34 AM (abScH)

30 25 Now I need a motherboard decoder. Sounds like the memory chip boom will last longer than the AI Datacenter build out skeptics say it will. Consumers will be ready to upgrade before the memory prices collapse. Will inference at the edge require faster consumer and end user systems?
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego

Probably not. I run local AI for experiments but regular users don't need that.

On the AMD side things are very simple. Socket AM5 motherboards use DDR5. Socket AM4 motherboards use DDR4. (And that's true of older systems too - AM3 used DDR3, AM2 used DDR2.)

On the Intel side it's a maze with walls that keep on moving.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 05:36 AM (BLOW1)

31 Of course CPU prices are coming down quickly after release. AMD isn't moving nearly as many of them as they would if memory prices were reasonable.

Computer shops are going to start laying off people and then closing due to lack of sales if this stupid bubble doesn't pop.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 05:43 AM (O7YUW)

32 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 05:45 AM (Ia/+0)

33 Pete Bog, are you going to put a few sheep in the fenced in area to keep the grass mowed ?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:45 AM (abScH)

34 G&R, the collateral damage reveals the long range goal. The memory shortage will hit phones and tablets such that consumers will only be able to rent them. As renters, they will not have full control of the software or surfing.
Commies are very good at getting the 2nd and 3rd consequences they want.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 05:58 AM (77Bgk)

35 Pete Bog, are you going to put a few sheep in the fenced in area to keep the grass mowed ?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:45 AM (abScH)

That’s a good idea. Not sure it’s big enough. I need an inexpensive e fence that I could move around the property so they could graze the checkerboard. We have several brushy areas so goats might be better.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:59 AM (Oom6t)

36 On tech problems. Yesterday on long drive listened to podcast on my phone all the way. Got there and phone decided it didn't accept mobile data. Nothing was turned off and didn't get back on line until got home WiFi. Maybe if I coould restart it might have fixed it but I can't turn my phone off ond on. Its a non woking button issue.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:03 AM (Ia/+0)

37 Man, tv is so desperate for live sports that there is now a women’s softball league.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:04 AM (77Bgk)

38 Evening and morning to the Sunday toilers and early risers! August is less than two weeks away, ya realize that? Which means for some of you lucky people, summer and its heat will be over in maybe six weeks!

(Offer void in Lousy-ana, Florida, and various southern Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas counties; check your locality)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 06:06 AM (wzUl9)

39 Marxists got to throw their weight around

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:07 AM (Ia/+0)

40 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Too old to rock 'n roll, too young to die.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 19, 2026 06:07 AM (amcLV)

41 40
Rejoinder: Too old to rock 'n roll, too young to die.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 19, 2026 06:07 AM (amcLV)

5 https://tinyurl.com/4s7kr5pd
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (BLOW1)

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:11 AM (6wpGE)

42 We watched the first half of Tarantino's The Hateful Eight last night. The blurb on the DVD cover had me intrigued; it seemed like a classic Western story of disparate characters trapped by a snowstorm. Then characters began throwing around the N-word, as people call it nowadays when they don't want to say it; and Samuel Jackson's character is shown as particularly racist and weirdly crude; and I don't know if I want to finish it. Is it worth the time?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 06:14 AM (wzUl9)

43 I will say in regards to The Hateful Eight that Kurt Russell and Jennifer Jason Leigh are outstanding. JJL in particular; her outlaw character is probably the least glamorous role for an actress in many years, and she revels in it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 06:17 AM (wzUl9)

44 Good morning morons

Is Tehran burning?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:18 AM (RIvkX)

45 If nothing else, first day since last Sunday I get to sit at home and have a large coffee

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:20 AM (Ia/+0)

46 - Too old to rock and roll?

Well, if your talking load up the kit. Drive to gig. Unload and set up/sound check. Do four hours with three ten minute breaks. Including a third to a fourth of lead vocals.
Load out and drive home.
Then yeah,,, too old.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 19, 2026 06:21 AM (dAv7M)

47 Good morning! The grandkids start school in less than a month. Holy cow!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 19, 2026 06:21 AM (3Ope8)

48 The mosh pits triggered by Ian Anderson’s flute playing…

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:22 AM (pKv0r)

49 And an expensive one; it's a DRAMless PCIe 4.0 design, and the 1TB model costs as much as a 4TB Team brand SSD I bought in March.

Sorta like the organic food of SSDs...just slap AI on it and charge a premium.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:22 AM (l3cgK)

50 29 Mamdani, " I am going to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY" campaign promise.

Mamdani now " I am exploring every legal option to see if it is possible to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:34 AM (abScH)

Sure dude.

Posted by: Department of State at July 19, 2026 06:23 AM (pKv0r)

51
Last day of the Houston series of dog shows. Stewarding from 7:00 until 1:30 today. Then pack up, load the car and head home. Hoping to get to the last Mass at my local parish.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 06:23 AM (O0L8i)

52 34: commies and socialists are very bad at understanding cause and effect.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:24 AM (pKv0r)

53 Mamdani now " I am exploring every legal option to see if it is possible to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:34 AM (abScH)
=====

Pleeze try pleeze pleeze pleeeeeze!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:25 AM (RIvkX)

54
“I look at Zohran Mamdani and I go: there’s a leader. He made promises and you know what he did? He kept them. He’s lowering rent, he’s building co-op grocery stores, pre-kindergarten. That’s all people care about. He’s really, really good”

____________

The DSA: today's Tammany Hall

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 06:26 AM (O0L8i)

55 'Bout time to do the Bataan Death March, aka my morning workout. I am carefully avoiding looking up the temp and heat index; I can check them when I get back, and have a retroactive heat stroke.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (wzUl9)

56 The New York Times
1 day ago — Lulu Garcia-Navarro sits down for an interview with the mayor of New York City.

She seems more fair than the NYT generally and more fair than the NYT headlines.

Zohran Mamdani Knows He Has Political Capital. And He Intends to Spend It.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (6wpGE)

57 52, I disagree. We may not understand why they want these consequences, but, Marxists clearly do want them.
The Post has an interesting bit on a DSA guy saying landlords don’t have a Constitutional right to double digit returns. He’s right. Investment returns are not in the Constution and as such, the states have authority over investment returns. They know what they are doing.

https://shorturl.at/r3yUq

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:31 AM (sStKZ)

58 Zohran Mamdani Knows He Has Political Capital. And He Intends to Spend It.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (6wpGE)
======

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

59 NYT Mamdani interview (1 hour)

https://tinyurl.com/2knzcbyb

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:35 AM (6wpGE)

60 53 Mamdani now " I am exploring every legal option to see if it is possible to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:34 AM (abScH)
=====

Pleeze try pleeze pleeze pleeeeeze!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:25 AM (RIvkX)

"Only Jews are Illegal!" --Mandami, Hitler, and the Muzzies

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:35 AM (l3cgK)

61 58 Zohran Mamdani Knows He Has Political Capital. And He Intends to Spend It.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (6wpGE)
======

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

I thought he was a political commie, not political capitalist...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (l3cgK)

62 It is already 80°

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (ou30A)

63 “Whatever the law allows me to do in New York City, that’s what we will do,” he said.

Which will be nothing. Zohran Mamdani’s obsession is another reminder that anti-Semitism is not just a stray plank in the Democratic Socialists of America’s platform, it is agenda item number one for them, just as it was for the National Socialist Party in Germany.
--PowerLine
=====

There is no light between DSA and the Democrat party.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (RIvkX)

64 Mandami, Hitler, and the Muzzies. WORST. MUSIC. GROUP. EVA.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (l3cgK)

65 61 58 Zohran Mamdani Knows He Has Political Capital. And He Intends to Spend It.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (6wpGE)
======

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

I thought he was a political commie, not political capitalist...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (l3cgK)

haha
good catch

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:37 AM (6wpGE)

66 After reading Dos Passos, I realized the Democrats have been lusting for the destruction of America since the 1880’s.
I think Elaine Luria is opening a new gym somewhere.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:40 AM (ou30A)

67 Yikes.

Gamer's Nexus recommends against the purchase of ALL LG products due to them now installing (without consent) software on your computer, which then leads to other installations (without consent) and ad-ware and mal-ware like behaviour.

https://youtu.be/Q9uefFYe6bM

This takes enshittification to a whole new level.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 06:42 AM (O7YUW)

68 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 19, 2026 06:43 AM (nT/TX)

69 67 Yikes.

Gamer's Nexus recommends against the purchase of ALL LG products due to them now installing (without consent) software on your computer, which then leads to other installations (without consent) and ad-ware and mal-ware like behaviour.

https://youtu.be/Q9uefFYe6bM

This takes enshittification to a whole new level.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 06:42 AM (O7YUW)

Just add those hard drives that were preinstalled with malware and you're all set!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:43 AM (l3cgK)

70 Maybe LG is using call centers in India and Pockeestan as there service centers...the same ones that tell you that you have malware on your computer and they can fix it if you only give them access to your computer...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:45 AM (l3cgK)

71 Why does an appliance needs WiFi?
My LG stove was a WiFi bit that shows up on my phone. Fucker won’t ever get connected to anything not 220.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:49 AM (AUlwe)

72 Reading how the Democrats Propaganda Ministry refused to show President Trump's speech but that Biden's Red Speech at Independence Hall was universally covered

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:50 AM (Ia/+0)

73 G'mornin' everyone!

quick coffee before watering the garden(s); gotta do it while it's still cool out.

66 degrees, foggy (I think it's fog and not smoke ... )

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 06:51 AM (VyBeY)

74 72 Reading how the Democrats Propaganda Ministry refused to show President Trump's speech but that Biden's Red Speech at Independence Hall was universally covered
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:50 AM (Ia/+0)

nope

Damin Toell
@damintoell
Jul 16
When Biden gave his primetime Independence Hall address in 2022 (the one with the scary red background that people still post images of), ABC ran Press Your Luck, NBC ran a Law & Order rerun, and CBS ran a Young Sheldon rerun.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:57 AM (6wpGE)

75 Why does an appliance needs WiFi?
My LG stove was a WiFi bit that shows up on my phone. Fucker won’t ever get connected to anything not 220.
Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:49 AM (AUlwe)
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I recently acquired an automatic litter box (long story).

It is wifi enabled.

WHY?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 06:57 AM (FZ29D)

76 @ 66 , I think it started in the 1860s, look at their behavior as the CW proceeded ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 06:57 AM (VyBeY)

77 Deadline.com

Broadcast Networks Pass On Carrying Joe Biden’s Primetime Speech — Update

By Ted Johnson
September 1, 2022 2:27pm

https://tinyurl.com/ye4p8vh2

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:59 AM (6wpGE)

78 I guess looking up new vehicles two weeks ago got my phone and into car buying, ads for vehicles and YouTube are popping up constantly.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 07:01 AM (Ia/+0)

79 wi-fi, lol; needed a 12 volt lighting transformer a few weeks ago, only thing the big-box store had was an outdoor model with wi-fi and an app ... I could tell (by the weight) that there was a transformer in there so I bought it, brought it home, used the bandsaw to excise the wi-fi module; it worked like a champ!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 07:02 AM (VyBeY)

80 wup, better get out there! *finishes coffee quickly*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 07:04 AM (VyBeY)

81 The surreal prominence of the Israel issue in domestic politics is due to a poisonous cocktail of factors, including Islamist influence, the dominance of the intersectional left and the West’s loss of its own cultural bearings, including the notion of objective truth.

What’s becoming ever more apparent, however, is that political leaders are scapegoating Israel because things are going wrong for them, both at home and abroad, and they cannot understand why. Refusing to acknowledge what they’re up against, they blame the Jews. - Melanie Phillips
=====

History rhymes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:04 AM (RIvkX)

82 75 Why does an appliance needs WiFi?
My LG stove was a WiFi bit that shows up on my phone. Fucker won’t ever get connected to anything not 220.
Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:49 AM (AUlwe)
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I recently acquired an automatic litter box (long story).

It is wifi enabled.

WHY?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 06:57 AM (FZ29D)

So you know when your cat poops and pees, and when it is full...
I have one too, but the wifi is not enabled. My son wanted to enable it so that he didn't have to walk the 20 feet to the litter box to check it...laziness has no upper bound...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:06 AM (l3cgK)

83 That your being monitored and tracked is really scary.
Daily asked for reviews of places I go, often not exactly where I go but sometimes next where I go.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 07:06 AM (Ia/+0)

84 @75/"Perfessor" Squirrel: "It { the litterbox } is wifi enabled.

WHY?"

So the litter-box company can harvest data on how many pets you have. This information can then be sold to data brokers to increase your profile's level of detail. Combined with "dynamic pricing" (where online prices are based on your user profile and what they think they can make you pay.) You may receive advertisement "specials" for litter associated with companies that have partnered with the data brokers, or the maker of your litterbox, which aren't specials at all compared to prices they might offer someone else.

Big stores with electronic price tags right at the location of products on the shelves will likely be the next form of this "dynamic", picking up on your phone's presence and showing you the price associated with your personal data profile (if they already aren't.)

At the grocery I shop at, I need to 'load the app' and 'load my offers' BEFORE I get to the checkout in order to get discounts on products, so yeah, they're tracking my phone, and me, and know what I'm stopping and looking at, and I'm probably already a victim of this predatory-pricing mechanism.

Digital prison.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 07:07 AM (O7YUW)

85 So you know when your cat poops and pees, and when it is full...
I have one too, but the wifi is not enabled. My son wanted to enable it so that he didn't have to walk the 20 feet to the litter box to check it...laziness has no upper bound...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:06 AM (l3cgK)

when the litter is full, not your cat...LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:07 AM (l3cgK)

86 Digital prison.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 07:07 AM (O7YUW)

Yeah, that's THEIR reason. Your reason is, "Eh, does the litter need changing? I'll check with my phone...don't wanna go to the box and check"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:08 AM (l3cgK)

87 mornin yall. You can't say the Mamdani administration is pointless:

"The Mamdani administration has quietly made permanent a controversial pilot program that pays junkies cash for turning in used needles. $10 for 50 needles.

It’s definitely a side hustle for me. Yeah, definitely!” crowed Tamia Wright, 43, after returning needles at Walter Gladwin Park in The Bronx on Thursday. “Right now, I’m gonna buy some weed and cigarettes.”

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:08 AM (MWfyi)

88 If the gov’t can make you buy insurance, they can make you buy a phone.
Nothing is a coincidence.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 07:10 AM (sStKZ)

89 87 mornin yall. You can't say the Mamdani administration is pointless:

"The Mamdani administration has quietly made permanent a controversial pilot program that pays junkies cash for turning in used needles. $10 for 50 needles.

It’s definitely a side hustle for me. Yeah, definitely!” crowed Tamia Wright, 43, after returning needles at Walter Gladwin Park in The Bronx on Thursday. “Right now, I’m gonna buy some weed and cigarettes.”

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:08 AM (MWfyi)

Exactly. Easy to get needles for much less than $10...just a waste of taxpayer money. It's like the gun "buy-backs" (um, when did the Gov't sell it in the first place?). You have some entrepreneurial types that built some zip guns on the cheap and profited.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:12 AM (l3cgK)

90 81 The surreal prominence of the Israel issue in domestic politics is due to a poisonous cocktail of factors, including Islamist influence, the dominance of the intersectional left and the West’s loss of its own cultural bearings, including the notion of objective truth.

What’s becoming ever more apparent, however, is that political leaders are scapegoating Israel because things are going wrong for them, both at home and abroad, and they cannot understand why. Refusing to acknowledge what they’re up against, they blame the Jews. - Melanie Phillips
=====

History rhymes.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:04 AM (RIvkX)

What to do, what to do.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:15 AM (6wpGE)

91 Easy to get needles for much less than $10"

Apparently they are laying around all over the place.

"Too often, used syringes end up in front of schools and children’s parks, and this is an issue that should be treated with the seriousness it deserves,” he said. “We should not recklessly create conditions that can threaten the safety of vulnerable communities.”

They are doing it for the children. And the junkies.

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:16 AM (MWfyi)

92 "just a waste of taxpayer money. "

"The program is being paid for through more than $189 million in settlement funds that the city secured from major opioid manufacturers and distributors"

It's paid for thru higher drug prices for the rest of us.

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:18 AM (MWfyi)

93 The City is just serving it's electoral base.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:18 AM (RIvkX)

94 Blast it! It's 6:15 am. Where's the Book Thread?!?!?! It always posts at 6am at home!!! What kind of crazy place is this "Central" land??

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 07:18 AM (1tpiU)

95 Blast it! It's 6:15 am. Where's the Book Thread?!?!?! It always posts at 6am at home!!! What kind of crazy place is this "Central" land??
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 07:18 AM (1tpiU)
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I am on Thread Time too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:20 AM (RIvkX)

96 Yesterday it was mentioned that it was the 50th anniversary of the release of the Z-80. This year is also the 60th anniversary of the Z-28. You could order one mid 1966, and the first one rolled off the line in December 1966.

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:26 AM (MWfyi)

97 I am on Thread Time too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:20 AM (RIvkX)

All I see around me is corn. Corn corn corn! Walit, is that a baseball game I hear?

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 07:27 AM (1tpiU)

98 97 I am on Thread Time too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:20 AM (RIvkX)

All I see around me is corn. Corn corn corn! Walit, is that a baseball game I hear?
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt

No. I mean yes! C'mon over!

Posted by: He Who Walks Behind the Rows at July 19, 2026 07:30 AM (sAmhv)

99 Good morning Horde. Thx Pixy.
Exactly who does Mamdani thinks will arrest Netanyahu? If he gave the order Tisch the police commissioner would refuse and probably resign.
The police would then be facing the Secret Service and the FBI and Federal Protection Service. Maybe that's Mamdani's hope , get Tisch to resign and let chaos reign

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 07:32 AM (OXYE0)

100 100

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:32 AM (6wpGE)

101 No. I mean yes! C'mon over!
Posted by: He Who Walks Behind the Rows at July 19, 2026 07:30 AM (sAmhv)

I cannot, for I have no shoes. 🥺

Posted by: Shoeless Joe Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 07:35 AM (1tpiU)

102 Digital prison.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant

We've all got a number
It follows us around
Can't get away
They'll track you down
It's out of our hands
It's computer controlled

Posted by: Mystery 00s lyric at July 19, 2026 07:38 AM (XvL8K)

103 The backlash against Amy Coney Barrett on social media is encouraging. I realize it's a pipe dream that she'd be shamed into resigning, but nevertheless.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:45 AM (E2lD7)

104 "Exactly who does Mamdani thinks will arrest Netanyahu? "

CITIZEN'S ARREST! CITIZENS ARREST!

Posted by: Gomer at July 19, 2026 07:46 AM (MWfyi)

105 104 "Exactly who does Mamdani thinks will arrest Netanyahu? "

CITIZEN'S ARREST! CITIZENS ARREST!
Posted by: Gomer at July 19, 2026 07:46 AM (MWfyi)

He wishes!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:46 AM (6wpGE)

106 The backlash against Amy Coney Barrett on social media is encouraging. I realize it's a pipe dream that she'd be shamed into resigning, but nevertheless.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:45 AM (E2lD7)
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Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

107 4 Disclaimer: You're never too old to rock and roll.
Or:
Wikipedia, Grace Slick:

Thankfully - There's RUSH.

Half way through there first Chicago show right now.
I'm set for new live performances for a year if Geddy can hold up.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 19, 2026 07:49 AM (KaHlS)

108 In this interview, Mamdani is rehearsed and performative. Which I guess is standard for a certain category of politician.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (6wpGE)

109 Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

Yes.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (E2lD7)

110 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (2Ez/1)

111 We've all got a number
It follows us around
Can't get away
They'll track you down
It's out of our hands
It's computer controlled

***
Automatic, systematic,
Full of color, self-contained . . .
( -- Jackson 5)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 07:51 AM (wzUl9)

112 108 In this interview, Mamdani is rehearsed and performative. Which I guess is standard for a certain category of politician.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (6wpGE)

... excluding this year's political hopefuls in Maine.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:53 AM (6wpGE)

113 [Grace Slick] said that the main reason she retired from the music business was that "all rock-and-rollers over the age of 50 look stupid and should retire."
---

She must have saved her money.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 07:54 AM (BzKNL)

114 The first rule of behavior modification:

Reward behavior you wish to encourage, punish behavior you wish to discourage.

Amy Coney Barrett and Rep. Adam Smith have confessed to violating their oaths of office. But those are just words.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:54 AM (RIvkX)

115 >>>Pete Bog, I take it that fruit picking season and deer hunting season don't coincide. Deer, having grazed on apple would be a nice finish.

Posted by: Ben Had

>When hunting season starts all of the apples have fallen off of the tree and the lay in the yard and ferment. The deer know and they come and eat the fruit and get fat and get intoxicated. It's easier to harvest a deer when he's drunk.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 07:54 AM (sYM3s)

116 "Reward behavior you wish to encourage, punish behavior you wish to discourage."

WOO HOO!

Posted by: Tamia Wright at July 19, 2026 07:55 AM (MWfyi)

117 Per Bongina Report, over 850k New Yorkers collected 2.6 billion in welfare payments last year.

Posted by: A City On The Brink at July 19, 2026 07:57 AM (45BvE)

118 Just got back from Walmart, where they decided for no apparent reason to rearrange all their frozen goods, inconveniencing not only their regular in-store shoppers, but also the Walmart associates who are gathering groceries for online shoppers.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 07:58 AM (FZ29D)

119 Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

Yes.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (E2lD7)

How? How can you coerce a vote? Maybe release info showing fraudulent adoptions? No that can't be it.

Posted by: Some Chief Justice Somewhere at July 19, 2026 07:59 AM (1tpiU)

120 ====

Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Whoa! What? Help me with this. I missed it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 07:59 AM (BzKNL)

121
81 The surreal prominence of the Israel issue in domestic politics is due to a poisonous cocktail of factors, including Islamist influence, the dominance of the intersectional left and the West’s loss of its own cultural bearings, including the notion of objective truth.”

I find it irritating that so many people, mostly the Israel haters but also some Israeli supporters blindly assume that this war is about Israel.

The entire framing of the issue is foolish - the war isn’t about Israel at all. Iran and Israel certainly hate each other, and hit each other whenever they can, but that’s a sideshow to what’s actually being fought over.

The cause of the war is Iran’s determination to build a huge missile capacity and obtain nuclear weapons so that it can hold all the middle eastern states hostage to its demands, and thus gain effective control of *all* oil supplies from the Middle East.

This plan, if allowed to be carried out, would transform Iran from a regional headache into one of the most powerful criminal states in the world. They should have been stopped years ago; they *have* to be stopped now. This is why this is *not* a war of choice; it is a war of necessity.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:01 AM (SmTu7)

122 I wouldn't be surprised to seeing Coney Barrett resign. She seemed genuinely upset about threats against her family. She's been somewhat disappointing so I wouldn't be put out if she keft

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:04 AM (OXYE0)

123 Whoa! What? Help me with this. I missed it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 07:59 AM (BzKNL)
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I forgot where I saw it but showed her votes have gotten more liberal after the post-Dobbs protests at her home.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 08:04 AM (RIvkX)

124 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:01 AM (SmTu7)
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This is because the Israelis are bloodthirsty. -Vice President J.D. Vance

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 08:06 AM (RIvkX)

125 phones and tablets such that consumers will only be able to rent them. "

Ahem.
/ATT, T mobile, Verizon....

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:06 AM (XuXeR)

126 106 The backlash against Amy Coney Barrett on social media is encouraging. I realize it's a pipe dream that she'd be shamed into resigning, but nevertheless.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:45 AM (E2lD7)
====

Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

I don't know the story, but a coerced vote is still a vote. It's on her.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:07 AM (6wpGE)

127 ====

I forgot where I saw it but showed her votes have gotten more liberal after the post-Dobbs protests at her home.

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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OK, saw a bit about her having to explain to her kids on putting the vest on every day. - Her heart is 'I didn't sign up for this'.
Well honey, being an American is a bitch. Bitch up and help pass laws thwarting these people or resign.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 08:09 AM (BzKNL)

128 =====

This is because the Israelis are bloodthirsty. -Vice President J.D. Vance

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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He goes on and on, he can't tighten up, he belongs in congress.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (BzKNL)

129
108 In this interview, Mamdani is rehearsed and performative. Which I guess is standard for a certain category of politician.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (6wpGE)

His mother was a Bollywood star, I believe. He’s been raised around slick video and performative behavior his entire life, it’s his only real talent.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (SmTu7)

130 117 Per Bongina Report, over 850k New Yorkers collected 2.6 billion in welfare payments last year.
Posted by: A City On The Brink at July 19, 2026 07:57 AM
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It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (2Ez/1)

131 Vance is one slick character. You'll see triangulation skills form him in the next couple of years that will make Clinton look like a picker.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (E2lD7)

132 at about 56:00

interviewer: "You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

Mamdani: "Thank you."

?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (6wpGE)

133 Like a piker.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (E2lD7)

134 129
108 In this interview, Mamdani is rehearsed and performative. Which I guess is standard for a certain category of politician.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (6wpGE)

His mother was a Bollywood star, I believe. He’s been raised around slick video and performative behavior his entire life, it’s his only real talent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (SmTu7)

Oh. That could explain a lot!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:14 AM (6wpGE)

135 >>>Clinton look like a picker.

he's a picker, he's a smoker, he's a midnight poke 'er.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 08:15 AM (BzKNL)

136 OK, saw a bit about her having to explain to her kids on putting the vest on every day. - Her heart is 'I didn't sign up for this'.

That must take awhile seeing how her trophy children are from all over the globe...

Posted by: Does She Speak Click-Clack? at July 19, 2026 08:16 AM (45BvE)

137
Any Boney Carrot.

Posted by: Someone has to type it at July 19, 2026 08:17 AM (2Ez/1)

138 135 >>>Clinton look like a picker.

he's a picker, he's a smoker, he's a midnight poke 'er.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 08:15 AM (BzKNL)

I'm a-pickin'
And I'm a-grinnin'

HeeHaw

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:18 AM (6wpGE)

139 Keft , no left . Damn hot dog fingers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:18 AM (OXYE0)

140 >>At the grocery I shop at, I need to 'load the app' and 'load my offers' BEFORE I get to the checkout in order to get discounts on products, so yeah, they're tracking my phone, and me, and know what I'm stopping and looking at, and I'm probably already a victim of this predatory-pricing mechanism.

Digital prison.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 07:07 AM (O7YUW)

The mark of the beast will be (is) starting with carrots. The sticks will come later. Discounts and other benefits are the carrots. No mark? No treats. Punishment will follow eventually.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 19, 2026 08:18 AM (IhL8c)

141 59 NYT Mamdani interview (1 hour)

https://tinyurl.com/2knzcbyb
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:35 AM (6wpGE)

I watched it. Probably worth doing.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:19 AM (6wpGE)

142 >>@121: Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:01 AM (SmTu7)
*****
Excellent analysis. This is why, IMO, the arab states are pretty quiet about this (I think) because they know Iran is crazy and is constantly trying to upset the whole table; like the freakin paleostinians always keep trying to do. The arabs don't like the Iranians and loath the paleostinians, the gulf states want 1 thing, make mo money. That said, none of them are our friends and will turn on us in a heart beat, but thenvagain look at our besties in europe. Add to this, squeezing chy-nahs beans using oil is an additional perk for us.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 08:19 AM (4UmNf)

143 interviewer: "You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

Mamdani: "Thank you."

?
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (6wpGE)
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In Leftist world, being elected to a powerful office is a major accomplishment.

He's only been in office a few months. What, exactly, has he achieved that will be beneficial to NYC over the long term?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 08:20 AM (FZ29D)

144 Pretty soon we'll see ads like the ones that popped up around Tom Cruise in Minority Report. All your information on your likes and dislikes will lead to ads immediately directed specifically at you as you walk through a store (if stores still exist)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:21 AM (OXYE0)

145 143 interviewer: "You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

Mamdani: "Thank you."

?
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (6wpGE)
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In Leftist world, being elected to a powerful office is a major accomplishment.

He's only been in office a few months. What, exactly, has he achieved that will be beneficial to NYC over the long term?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 08:20 AM (FZ29D)

I found it an odd and foreign-sounding response.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:22 AM (6wpGE)

146 Nations don't have friends. They have interests.

Posted by: Foreign Policy 101 at July 19, 2026 08:23 AM (2Ez/1)

147 ****thenvagain***
=then again. I read this twice and missed it. I really am a moron and not in a good AoS way.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 08:24 AM (4UmNf)

148 This is because the Israelis are bloodthirsty. -Vice President J.D. Vance
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 08:06 AM (RIvkX)

Short version of a longer case; Vance is criticizing Israel because he doesn’t dare attack Rubio openly. Marco Rubio is the one who curbstomped all of Vance’s dreams of doing international diplomacy and looking Presidential, when he destroyed the MOU with the Israel-Lebanon-US agreement.

Trump said something casually a couple days ago, which was really fascinating. Some writer for a design magazine or website was in the White House, asking him about his redecorating. She asked a silly question; “you’ve done so much to personalize and redecorate the Oval Office; will it make you feel sad to see your successor change it all?”

Trump’s shocking answer: “Ah, no he won’t. Cubans love a lot of gold.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:25 AM (SmTu7)

149 Phone still has no mobile data available

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:26 AM (Ia/+0)

150 @143 he hasn't done any good for the quality of life, but he sure helped get a lot of DSA critters elected.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:26 AM (OXYE0)

151 I wouldn't be surprised to seeing Coney Barrett resign. She seemed genuinely upset about threats against her family. She's been somewhat disappointing so I wouldn't be put out if she keft
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026

***
As long as Trump can get in someone a little to the right of Roger B. Taney. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 08:26 AM (wzUl9)

152 Am I the only one watching golf?

Posted by: dantesed at July 19, 2026 08:31 AM (Oy/m2)

153 Open Source Intel @Osint613
10m JUST IN 🔴

Israel says it detected missiles launched from Iran toward Aqaba, Jordan, which could result in shrapnel falling inside Israeli territory.

Air raid sirens may sound in southern Israel. The Home Front Command says there is currently no change to public safety instructions.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 08:33 AM (w2sCY)

154 If Barrett resigns (nearly inconceivable), the expectation would be for Trump to select another woman. This is the problem. Unless he goes for Barbara Lagoa, a finalist last time and heads and shoulders above the mousy mediocrity Barrett.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (E2lD7)

155 Her heart is 'I didn't sign up for this'."

The cry of every soon to be pregnant aboard ship...

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (XuXeR)

156 @152 I have it on. The weather has been great this week. Birkdale is tough and when the weather is bad it's a nightmare. That's why the leaders are -10 and -9

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (OXYE0)

157 Am I the only one watching golf?

Posted by: dantesed at July 19, 2026 08:31 AM (Oy/m2)
-

/claps

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (w2sCY)

158 dantseed as I don't want to take a nap have no reason to watch golf.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (Ia/+0)

159 Yes.

Posted by: Men's Metric Kickball fans at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (2Ez/1)

160 Am I the only one watching golf?
Posted by: dantesed
_________

I'm not turning it on till the leaders tee off. Live odds (betting $100 gets you this amount):

Sam Burns +144

Si Woo Kim +490

Ryan Fox +830

Scottie Scheffler +1150

Bryson DeChambeau +1550

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 19, 2026 08:37 AM (XvL8K)

161 Good morning.
Late in the Prayer Thread this is what Brother Tim posted -- he really needs prayer, and what else, I don't know. But I know prayer is heard and answered.

Mornin' Horde. Black dog barkin' lately as he does when things get hard. Housing plan failed. Trying to find a better paying job I fit with has been frustrating. Same old same old, I guess.

Started asking the Lord not for relief, but release. Probably not a good sign.

Hope y'all are doing better than I.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 18,

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 08:37 AM (4VH0B)

162 long as Trump can get in someone a little to the right of Roger B. Taney. . . ."

Well, the Hamilton class were all pretty good...

/oh

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:38 AM (XuXeR)

163
"You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

_________

Like Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize. For what?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 08:38 AM (UU6Zb)

164 163
"You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

_________

Like Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize. For what?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 08:38 AM (UU6Zb)

And then, continuing that excellent analogy, this was a NYT interviewer.

"You have won the Nobel Prize."
"Thank you."

?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:42 AM (6wpGE)

165 How to say you paid for the interview without saying you paid for the interview.

Posted by: With other people's money at July 19, 2026 08:42 AM (2Ez/1)

166 "Thank you for slipping that high mark into the interview"?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:43 AM (6wpGE)

167 Missed prayer thread and everything yesterday

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:44 AM (Ia/+0)

168 165 How to say you paid for the interview without saying you paid for the interview.
Posted by: With other people's money at July 19, 2026 08:42 AM (2Ez/1)

ha!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:44 AM (6wpGE)

169 Obama was pretty good at reading a speech as long as the teleprompter was functioning properly.
Of course if it ever went out he was like a dummy without the ventriloquist.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 19, 2026 08:45 AM (Lo97M)

170 You know who else was a successful politician?

Posted by: Gomer at July 19, 2026 08:45 AM (MWfyi)

171 I thought about watching golf, but instead turned on Soothing Ocean Music for some background noise. Same thing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:46 AM (SmTu7)

172 Getting a new Crome update available since yesterday yet can't figure out how to update, wonder if thats its problem

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:46 AM (Ia/+0)

173 Boy, haven't Bari Weiss's reforms at CBS been impressive?

No figure more over-hyped by the Right since Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:47 AM (E2lD7)

174 Bad news. Crome is cheap Chinese spyware.

Posted by: Google Chrome at July 19, 2026 08:49 AM (2Ez/1)

175 Bookz.

Posted by: The Illiterate Noodist at July 19, 2026 08:53 AM (2Ez/1)

176 "Crome is cheap Chinese spyware."

well, to be fair, what isn't, these days ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 08:54 AM (VyBeY)

177 This is why this is *not* a war of choice; it is a war of necessity.

Lots of Narrative Choices here:
• Israel! Israel! Israel!
• MIC! MIC! MIC!
• IMEC 2.0 vs BRI
• Russia/Ukraine style patty-cake "war" to keep a live testing lab for advanced weapons systems
• 4D Chess to neuter Iran Nuke Program
• Retaliation for nearly 50 years of terrorism
• ???
• Profit!

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 08:56 AM (a4flb)

178 >>>No figure more over-hyped by the Right since Paul Ryan.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:47 AM (E2lD7)
***
Jeezz. Every time I manage to forget about that duplicitous, lying, back stabbing, POS there he is. I see his mentor Jabba The Bennett is still us (spit)!

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 08:57 AM (4UmNf)

179 Eugyppius, Weis and Berenson are worried that their class might get the wrong idea and discredit their status. I always wondered if Bjorn Lomborg was the same way.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 08:58 AM (/Chlc)

180 Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?

Perhaps. She essentially said that terrorism works to get the political results you want

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 08:59 AM (a4flb)

181 ***among us*** See my post above about me being an idiot. I'm out, have a great book thread!

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 08:59 AM (4UmNf)

182 nood!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 09:02 AM (VyBeY)

183 No Book Thread here. Pantsless, happy, and isn't reading fiction essentially condoning lying?

Posted by: Penguin Promotion Board at July 19, 2026 09:21 AM (JM9I6)

184 Just want to say that Mamdami's mommy was not a Bollywood star. She made a movie called "Monsoon Wedding" that was set in India but it was not Bollywood type movie. Aishwarya Rai was Bollywood star.

Posted by: Glenn at July 19, 2026 09:49 AM (vneJl)

Saturday Night Club ONT - July 18, 2026 [Disco & Dino]

Welcome to Club ONT - a collaboration of The Disco and The Dino. We built this place for you so you can have some fun. Come in in, grab a drink or 3. Keep it light and friendly. Jerks need not enter the premises (the moose out front is keeping track and you do NOT want to disappoint the moose).

[Top photo: the bar at Fraunces Tavern, New York City. The oldest surviving building in New York.]

*****

Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies

The teacher gave her fifth grade class an assignment: Get their parents to tell them a story with a moral at the end of it.

The next day, the kids came back and, one by one, began to tell their stories. There were all the regular types of stuff: Spilled milk and pennies saved. But then the teacher realized, that only Janie was left.

"Janie, do you have a story to share?"

"Yes ma'am. My daddy told me a story about my Mommy. She was a Marine pilot in Desert Storm, and her plane got hit. She had to bail out over enemy territory, and all she had was a flask of whiskey, a pistol, and a survival knife.

She drank the whiskey on the way down so the bottle wouldn't break, and then she parachuted right into the middle of 20 Iraqi troops.

She shot 15 of them with the pistol, until she ran out of bullets, killed four more with the knife, till the blade broke, and then she killed the last Iraqi with her bare hands."

"Good Heavens," said the horrified teacher. "What did your Daddy tell you was the moral to this horrible story?"

"Don't mess with Mommy when she's been drinking."

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Drink of the Night

Tonight we drew the 7 of spades from our deck of playing card cocktails

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Club ONT Department of Home Remodeling

Pole dancing accident floods two Houston apartments

A Houston woman said she is done practicing pole dancing at home after a mishap led to two apartments being flooded.
Asha Gilbert was filming her pole dancing practice July 6 at her west Houston apartment when the pole came loose from the ceiling and struck a fire sprinkler.
Gilbert said she had only installed the pole three days earlier.
"It wasn't even a thought that it could possibly hit the sprinkler," Gilbert said. "We were more worried about it hitting a wall."
She said her furniture was ruined and she had to move to another unit due to the damage. Gilbert said her downstairs neighbor was understanding about the water damage.
"I explained everything, and she was very, very cool and understanding, and I appreciated that," Gilbert said.
She said she will not be pole dancing at home anymore.

*****

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Club ONT Department of Bonanza History

Dan Blocker's horse off camera was a mini-bike.

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Club ONT Department of the Misplaced Emu

Mystery emu on the loose in Mississippi

Animal control officers are trying to find the owner of an emu on the loose in Mississippi's Pearl River County.
A witness captured video of the flightless Australian bird wandering this week near Pea Ridge Road.
Pearl River County Animal Control confirmed Wednesday that the emu remained on the loose, and its origins were unknown.
Officials are asking anyone with information on the emu's owner or current whereabouts to contact local authorities.

Any among the Horde missing your Emu?

*****

Club ONT Department of Oklahoma Geography

There is a Disney, Oklahoma? Who knew?

According to the town website:

Disney is situated in northeastern Mayes County at the east end of Pensacola Dam on State Highway 28. The town is named after former Oklahoma U.S. Congressman Wesley E. Disney and has no affiliation with The Walt Disney Company or Walt Disney.

Disney is renowned worldwide for its vehicle rock climbing, off-road trails, and adventure activities. Within the city limits are five recreation areas of Cherokee State Park, offering off-road rock climbing, trails, and mudding for off-road vehicles. Visitors can also enjoy camping, swimming, picnicking, boating, fishing, skiing, and kayaking. Many off-road event attendees also spend time fishing, boating, or kayaking on the water.

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Club ONT Movie Night: X-15 Documentary

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Club ONT Jukebox

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Top 10ish Comments of the Week

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Club ONT is brought to you by: Club approved attire

Because business doesn’t stop just because it’s July, motherfucker. pic.twitter.com/DlWyD2pTCK
— Super 70s Sports (@Super70sSports) July 16, 2026

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Restroom tokens are temporarily not required. We know some of you hit the nearby Taco Bell on your way in.

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1 Good evening morons and Слава Двоим!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:00 PM (RIvkX)

2 Howdy, Ds!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 18, 2026 10:01 PM (kOluj)

3 You youngsters don't remember when Fraunces' Tavern was bombed by leftists.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:01 PM (RIvkX)

4 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:03 PM (zZu0s)

5
Lol at the clothes!

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 10:03 PM (/QHx4)

6 Drink of the Night

Less-boozy, more-chocolatey Mudslide?

For the sorority girl who wants something sessionable.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:04 PM (VHUov)

7 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 18, 2026 10:04 PM (+9wcF)

8 Evening all,

I hope you are all doing well!

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:04 PM (2F0/Y)

9 Oh. Hi.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 18, 2026 10:05 PM (ok2JK)

10 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2026 10:05 PM (IUQak)

11
Hey I got a Top Ten-ish
you like me
YOU REALLY LIKE ME
I'M SOMEBODY NOW

Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (ZxPkt)

12 Well, I know how to fix something that's out of whack.

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (sKqQm)

13 Woo hoo!

Posted by: LASue at July 18, 2026 10:07 PM (lCppi)

14 Sorry I'm late, I was trying to find the 10mm socket.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:07 PM (GX6fr)

15 the emu remained on the loose, and its origins were unknown.

-
News blurbs are made by fools like you
But only God can make an emu

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:07 PM (ndZc7)

16 I'M SOMEBODY NOW
Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (ZxPkt)

Navin R. Johnson has entered the chat

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2026 10:07 PM (+sTu6)

17 Two comments in the top 10-ish- this is as close as I'll ever get to a Nobel Prize.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:08 PM (GX6fr)

18 Lol at the clothes!
Posted by: four seasons

You know those are formal athletic socks because they don't have the three colored bands at the top.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:08 PM (VHUov)

19
Lol mikeski

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 10:08 PM (/QHx4)

20 The last photo is hilarious.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:08 PM (zZu0s)

21 Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (ZxPkt)
=====

Never let them see you sweat.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:09 PM (RIvkX)

22 Way ast my bedtime
Have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 10:09 PM (Ia/+0)

23 How about those ties? Very groovy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:09 PM (RIvkX)

24 Ill admit I 've never before seen that type of mens shorts worn with knee high socks and a tie.

I may have been better off.

Posted by: LASue at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (lCppi)

25 Evenin'

Disney, Oklahoma looks to be in the Ozarks. The western edge of the Ozarks anyway.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (jrKun)

26 Hello friends! I just saw Saijo on the pet thread with the other cutie animals! Thank you!

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (Dd38x)

27 Those guys with the fashion ties have got the Berb Tarlek look down to a science

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (l+3gx)

28 The correct word is of course "Wisent".

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (gKWVE)

29 Sits down in a dark corner to scope out the room

Posted by: mindful webworker - this corner smells odd at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (p+5Bi)

30 Not sure anyone here is interested, but Walmart's Marketside has a really nice curry chicken salad. We add hard boiled eggs and chutney to it. Delicious!

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (2F0/Y)

31 Two comments in the top 10-ish- this is as close as I'll ever get to a Nobel Prize.
Posted by: tankdemon

* standing ovation *

And both under your own nic. I think all my two-fers sneaked in wearing a sockpuppet.

I just got one assist this week. Keeping my point total up, I guess.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (VHUov)

32 Any among the Horde missing your Emu?

You might want to check with the Moon Nukers at IMAO.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:12 PM (GX6fr)

33 Lech Wałęsa dancing > Asha Gilbert dancing

Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (dIske)

34 and those two dudes are standing within what for me would be my personal space.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (gKWVE)

35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)

36 I just wandered in briefly and am speechless with the fashion shorts.

One of our neighbors mows his lawn in black knee socks. He's weird but no problems for nine years. I assume he has circulation problems but I haven't asked.

It is hot and we need rain. That's my report. Carry on.

Also, I do not like that martini glass because it looks like a coral snake.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:14 PM (hzuYO)

37 Thanks for the ONT! Very nice! Happy to report that I survived the Tornado warning, flood warning, and air quality warning for today.

Posted by: Iris at July 18, 2026 10:14 PM (286+n)

38 and those two dudes are standing within what for me would be my personal space.
Posted by: gKWVE

"Theeyyyyyy are lumberjacks and that's okay!!"

Posted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2026 10:14 PM (IUQak)

39 * waves to Iris*

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 10:15 PM (abScH)

40 Good evening morons and Слава Двоим!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:00 PM

*raises glass*

на здоровье!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 18, 2026 10:15 PM (Wnv9h)

41 Just made an Old Fashioned. Not bad. Main challenges are ridiculous, and trivial. Bought some measured-pour spouts (actually just wanted metal spouts to pour wine without drips, but all they had were these plastic bartender measured-pour thinggies). Probably me, but I didn't trust the "1 oz" spout, seemed like it was dispensing too much bourbon, so I sorta cut it short. But, two pours (2 oz total was goal), so poured again.

Drink seems fine, didn't short myself too much booze.

Other problem is annoying. The bitters bottle's little dispenser thinggy flings bitters wildly around when I tilt it upside down to dispense my "dashes". That stuff stains worse than fresh cherry juice, amazing. Hoping my next bottle will work normally, and as seen on TV (well, on UToob, and in bars).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 18, 2026 10:15 PM (U/Byj)

42 Royal Highland Show

Toilets for Competition Use only

.....they ran out of cabers?

Posted by: macmikeski at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (VHUov)

43 **Waves back**

Posted by: Iris at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (286+n)

44 Wait.
I was told it was The Tankdemon.

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (fRFTM)

45 It's only a matter of time before the emu starts recruiting other wildfowl.
We mammals had a good run. You maniacs. Damn you all to hell

Posted by: PLANET OF THE DUCKS at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (gKWVE)

46 I assume parents hate the kid they name 'Francis.' I can't fathom the utter revulsion one must have to name him 'Fraunces'.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (diia5)

47 24 Ill admit I 've never before seen that type of mens shorts worn with knee high socks and a tie.

I may have been better off.
Posted by: LASue at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (lCppi)

Looks like a middle school gym teacher on picture day.

Posted by: Bilwis - at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (w/O5Q)

48 I don't remember seeing men dressed like that. Who wore a stupid ugly tie with shorts? Musta been a Yankee thing.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (bqIVz)

49 35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)
_____________________________

In the 70's I was a kid living across the street from the main campus of a college. I'm betting I saw more boobs than most at that tender young age. Because the 70's gave us drunk, female STREAKERS. That alone is enough to miss those days.

Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (dIske)

50 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 18, 2026 10:15 PM (Wnv9h)

*clinks*

*smashes glass into the fireplace*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (RIvkX)

51 >>>Any among the Horde missing your Emu?

Alex the Chick. But she's not missing it, it just escaped from the box

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (rbvCR)

52 Disney, Oklahoma looks to be in the Ozarks.

I'll say NO. It's right next to the lake and I think (I am no expert) that would be out of the formal Ozarks. Hilly? Yes.

Posted by: LRob in OK at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (Jr+re)

53 Thanks for the dandy Saturday Night ONT, Disco and Dino!

Those summer "business" shorts are beyond parody. And they were beyond parody back in the 70s!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 18, 2026 10:20 PM (D/6p1)

54 Missing my emu? No, shot the damned messy thing.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 10:20 PM (abScH)

55 44 Wait.
I was told it was The Tankdemon.
Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (fRFTM)

Slanderous untruths! Fake news! Disinformation!

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:21 PM (GX6fr)

56 That Lindsey Buckingham song was during his fag error. I did recognized Mick Fleetwood on drums and can plainly see why Stevie fooled around with him at one point and ticked Lindsey off.

The "black Irish" look of black hair and blue eyes was the man of my dreams when I was young. Instead the two college guys I ever loved were blondes with blue or green eyes. The green eyed guy won me over and we produced green eyed sons.

I still like men with black hair and blue eyes. Mel Gibson remains on my list, altho he needs to lose his white beard.

Apparently way back in my ancestry DNA I was an Irish lass who fell in love with a pirate on the Spanish Armada.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:21 PM (hzuYO)

57 No, shot the damned messy thing.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 10:20 PM (abScH)

Good on ya, sheila.

Posted by: Australian Defence Force at July 18, 2026 10:22 PM (gKWVE)

58 55 44 Wait.
I was told it was The Tankdemon.
Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (fRFTM)

Slanderous untruths! Fake news! Disinformation!
Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:21 PM (GX6fr)

I’d best ask The Duncanthrax.

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:23 PM (fRFTM)

59 All you people with Cyrillic Privilege. Sort of thing that leads to revolutions by the great unwashed.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 18, 2026 10:23 PM (U/Byj)

60 Continued from the Music thread - the Beach Boys flamed out early, it was a complicated arrangement with their father Murray, who was a bit of a whack job. Brian fired him, and learned to use the studio, and hot shot studio musicians, like an instrument.

But Brian got heavily into drugs, and wouldn’t go on tour, and got really weird. I don’t think they even hardly charted much of anything past 1966. “Good Vibrations” and “God Only Knows” were great tunes but they didn’t have another hit until “Kokomo” in what, 1977? And Brian didn’t have anything to do with that. They were scheduled I think to play the Monetary Pop Festival in ‘67 but they just weren’t considered cool any longer, and if you can’t chart a groovy tune, maybe they were right.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:24 PM (WcNzu)

61 Because the 70's gave us drunk, female STREAKERS. That alone is enough to miss those days.
Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (dIske)

My first trip to London was a college English Lit course in 1974. Every single pup I went to the bartender and/or a Brit guy asked me to streak. I would always say no and at one point I told them to stop asking me as I am hearing this every day.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:25 PM (hzuYO)

62 I would always say no and at one point I told them to stop asking me as I am hearing this every day.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat

"So you're telling me there's a chance?"

Posted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2026 10:26 PM (IUQak)

63 but they didn’t have another hit until “Kokomo” in what, 1977?

Double typo?

1988.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:26 PM (VHUov)

64 Pro-tip: avoid Qeshm Island, and Hormozgan county in general, for your summer seaside vacation this year. Sure your dollar goes farther than anywhere else on earth, but there are, um, issues at the moment.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (U/Byj)

65 60 but they didn’t have another hit until “Kokomo” in what, 1977?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:24 PM (WcNzu)

It was about a decade later than that.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (GX6fr)

66 35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)

You didn’t like all the college girls in tube tops and short shorts? Really?

Yeah men looked like weird bums, but who cared.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (l+3gx)

67 In a good range of styles indeed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (Cqx++)

68 Restroom tokens are temporarily not required. We know some of you hit the nearby Taco Bell on your way in.

Oh, and light a match when you're done, will ya? Just be careful, we leave the rocketry to SpaceX and the explosions to Blue Origin.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 18, 2026 10:28 PM (zom6H)

69 Apparently way back in my ancestry DNA I was an Irish lass who fell in love with a pirate on the Spanish Armada.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
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Obviously.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:28 PM (JS6jE)

70 Yeah men looked like weird bums, but who cared.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (l+3gx)

Its not like we can understand why the hell women find us attractive in the first place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM (zZu0s)

71 Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)

Ah think you're sufferin' from a... crahsis o' spirit...

Posted by: Jimmah Cahtah at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM (gKWVE)

72 Only the rich kids had minibikes. A hundred and twenty bucks would have been like two mortgage payments for my folks at that time.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 10:30 PM (vTZFs)

73 Great coastal storm tonight. Seeing nature do its thing is awesome.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:30 PM (viF8m)

74 It's no secret.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ro3UDpQZXQ

1

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (JS6jE)

75 Heh - Trump is mucho PISSED OFF tonight because 2 servicemen were killed. I’m not laughing because of the deaths, that’s tragic, but at the way that the Iranians are gonna find out that they’ve never seen really pissed off Donald Trump before.

They shouldn’t have made him angry. They won’t like him when he’s angry.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (l+3gx)

76 In this photo, we see TRex photobombing someone. Who might it be?

https://tinyurl.com/mvftkkf5

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (qx7Zg)

77 70 Its not like we can understand why the hell women find us attractive in the first place.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM (zZu0s)

In my dating days, women seemed to find me more attractive when I increased the size of my wallet.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (GX6fr)

78 Never mind....hi Dsl
!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (ok2JK)

79 Its not like we can understand why the hell women find us attractive in the first place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM
***
I thought it was the small brain and short arms, right?

Posted by: TRex - dapper dino at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (XfIK1)

80 If you disappoint the moose, he calls in his friend, the grandpa-tossing bison.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (qx7Zg)

81
Restroom tokens are temporarily not required. We know some of you hit the nearby Taco Bell on your way in.

I better not run 'find in page' and locate 'paid my dime and only farted'.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (QVmho)

82 ONT

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 18, 2026 10:33 PM (WL2lA)

83 "The oldest surviving building in New York."

Not even close. There is a building in Brooklyn that dates to the 1650s! Wyckoff House, or something like that. I live right next to a small town named after Pieter Wyckoff.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 10:34 PM (l4RKn)

84 78 Never mind....hi Dsl
!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM
***
Howdy!

Posted by: TRex - oh hi dino at July 18, 2026 10:34 PM (XfIK1)

85 Today I bought a used ratchet fruit press. I didn't intend to buy it, but there it was at the Re-Store for less than 200. It is missing the spanners to hold it together, but everything else is there.
I no longer have to repair my cobbled together press that I have been building, incrementally, for 15 years, and now I just have to work with this one
The main drawback is that it will hold about 20 gallons of fruit pulp, instead of 5 gallons like the old press. So now the bottleneck in production is once again the grinding up of the apples.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:34 PM (rbvCR)

86 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (2F0/Y)

87 I thought it was the small brain and short arms, right?
Posted by: TRex - dapper dino at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (XfIK1)

TRex, have you ever had a short arm inspection?

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (tez/p)

88 Evening, ONT Horde! And Disco and Dino, of course! Having a Caesar break after mowing the south ditch. Looks good, too. Mowed around the house and shop, too. Had a big wreck. I had hitched the golf cart to my large rolling table to shift it aside to mow where it had been sitting, and got it rolling too fast, and it slammed into a metal barrel, and the discarded truck box full of scrap metal. Half the stuff on the table landed on the ground, or in the scrap metal bin. Took me several hours to get it back to Square One, LOL.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM (1z8ji)

89 The fashion shorts look like cut-off's from a pair of long pants. And I can't figure out the sizes (3-7)?

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM (y171U)

90 66 35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal
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She looked like Doris Day and loved me too much.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM (JS6jE)

91 83 "The oldest surviving building in New York."

Not even close. There is a building in Brooklyn that dates to the 1650s! Wyckoff House, or something like that. I live right next to a small town named after Pieter Wyckoff.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 10:34 PM (l4RKn)

It's not the oldest building, but it is the oldest tavern in NYC.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 18, 2026 10:37 PM (0CU3H)

92 Sesame Street was good

Posted by: gKWVE doesn't remember a lot of the 70s at July 18, 2026 10:37 PM (gKWVE)

93 87 TRex, have you ever had a short arm inspection?

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM
***
Not in a military venue or sense of the word.

Posted by: TRex - under the radar dino at July 18, 2026 10:38 PM (XfIK1)

94 I detassled corn one summer and spent $65 on a used mini-bike about that time. It was s lot of fun. My buddy Jeff found an old Garelli and he tooled that around till he crashed and broke his collarbone. This appears to be painful. I was more careful after that.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:38 PM (WcNzu)

95 >>Not even close. There is a building in Brooklyn that dates to the 1650s! Wyckoff House, or something like that. I live right next to a small town named after Pieter Wyckoff.

Welcome, new comer.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:38 PM (viF8m)

96
Having a Caesar break after mowing the south ditch.

Beware the Ides of July!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 10:39 PM (Cqx++)

97 NFL and MLB were pretty awesome in the 70s. Much better than today

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (QMAsf)

98 Apparently way back in my ancestry DNA I was an Irish lass who fell in love with a pirate on the Spanish Armada.

My Irish ancestors were named "Carlos", and there was never much of a long reach across the Bay of Biscay

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (rbvCR)

99 75 Heh - Trump is mucho PISSED OFF tonight...
They shouldn’t have made him angry. They won’t like him when he’s angry.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (l+3gx)

Also pissed off because of the Iranian plot to kill him.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (y171U)

100 next door Big City decided tokens for BR stalls were discrimination. ABSOLUTELY. Pay toilets are clean.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (JS6jE)

101 88 Evening, ONT Horde! And Disco and Dino, of course! Having a Caesar break after mowing the south ditch. Looks good, too. Mowed around the house and shop, too. Had a big wreck.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM
***
I'm not laughing at you, but your wreck description sounds like absolute Three Stooges-style chaos.

Posted by: TRex - wrecking yard dino at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (XfIK1)

102 I loved the '70's and don't understand why carburetors are being picked on in that statement.

I loved men with beards and long hair, the beer and the music, concerts, and freedom to have fun as no one ever seemed insulted or offended. I had so much fun! Granted I also did not care if anyone was offended or notice, so there's that.

There was some trick to start cars by pouring gasoline on the carburetor, or that was what I understood as I never did it.

My bf/husband and a good friend started a girl's new car on fire this way. This is how they rescued the damsel in distress his friend had just seen in a bar, stranded in the parking lot (I was at my apt studying).

My bf said the hood paint basically melted, but that's what she gets for letting two strange college guys help her who were leaving the bar.

He drove her home and said the main person who started the car on fire was making out with her in the back seat; so all was forgiven til she had to tell her father.

We don't know the outcome of that event. Granted, John, being 1/2 Navajo and 1/2 Mexican could woo even girls he'd just set their car on fire, so there's that.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (hzuYO)

103 I did a Brave AI search on World Cup Finals. It hallucinated that Spain beat Argentina 1-0.
Except that the game takes place tomorrow.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 10:41 PM (gKWVE)

104 Only the rich kids had minibikes. A hundred and twenty bucks would have been like two mortgage payments for my folks at that time.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 10:30 PM (vTZFs)

I had one as young teenager in West Vancouver. Family was not rich, but my Dad was in the small engine business and got hold of one with no engine. We fitted it with a Tecumseh engine and centrifugal clutch. I rode the thing up a trail to the top of Hollyburn Mountain. No problem. Coming back down was interesting. No suspension, but it had brakes. And got massive blisters on both hands on the webs between my thumbs and index fingers. Ouch!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:41 PM (1z8ji)

105 The fashion shorts look like cut-off's from a pair of long pants. And I can't figure out the sizes (3-7)?
Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM (y171U)
* * * *
Took me a minute to figure that one out. It's referring to the length of the shorts. As if a man would wear 3 inch long shorts into a business office back in the 70s. Sheesh.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 18, 2026 10:41 PM (D/6p1)

106
Ah think you're sufferin' from a... crahsis o' spirit...

Posted by: Jimmah Cahtah at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM (gKWVE)

Malaise, I remember that. And my dad so disappointed in Carter that he never voted Democrat again.

Posted by: moki at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (wLjpr)

107 I thought it was the small brain and short arms, right?
Posted by: TRex - dapper dino at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (XfIK1)
TRex, have you ever had a short arm inspection?
Posted by: RI Red
********
Just noticing you didn't ask about the small brain inspection...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (XfIK1)

108 Sesame Street was good
Posted by: gKWVE doesn't remember a lot of the 70s at July 18, 2026 10:37 PM (gKWVE)

The Electric Company was even better.

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (QMAsf)

109
Christy,

You have the best stories.

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (/QHx4)

110 I live right next to a small town named after Pieter Wyckoff.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

I would not have wanted to be him in grade school.

"Your name is peter whackoff?!?!"

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:43 PM (VHUov)

111 99 75 Heh - Trump is mucho PISSED OFF tonight...
They shouldn’t have made him angry. They won’t like him when he’s angry.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (l+3gx)

Also pissed off because of the Iranian plot to kill him.

Posted by: Joemarine
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Wish they had screwed up a few more times allowing more median brains to wrap around what's going on and not the lies put out by the MSM. To bad, they are getting up to speed the hard way.
So is the IRGC.

hope our guys put some notes on those bombs
_Kilroy

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:43 PM (JS6jE)

112 The fashion shorts look like cut-off's from a pair of long pants. And I can't figure out the sizes (3-7)?
Posted by: Joemarine

Inseam, by the pictures.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:44 PM (VHUov)

113 This one is for Anna Puma, Sayo Komada doing a cover or the Red Hot Chili Peppers' song Snow, on the Shamisen

youtu.be/1HRqNcju8jk

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:45 PM (rbvCR)

114 🦖 🎵🎵 and so much crazy dancing critters..Rooowww...or something.....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 18, 2026 10:45 PM (ok2JK)

115 Time to go take my laundry in off the line. BBIAB.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:45 PM (1z8ji)

116 Sesame Street sucked.

The Muppet Show was friggin' awesome. My dad, my brother and I loved it.

Posted by: Link Hogthrob at July 18, 2026 10:45 PM (0aYVJ)

117 102 There was some trick to start cars by pouring gasoline on the carburetor, or that was what I understood as I never did it.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026

We used to spray starter fluid into the carb. This was before they had fuel injectors in the 1980's.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 10:46 PM (y171U)

118 Tell TJM I'm watching William Wyler's "The Desperate Hours" on blu-ray. So he can calm down.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026 10:46 PM (CHHv1)

119
The Electric Company was even better.

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (QMAsf)

Zoom - with its fun suggestions for impressionable kids, like making "camp" stoves out of a coffee can, wood and leaves, setting it on fire in the backyard and cooking bologna on it. All fun and games until dad sees the backyard on fire

Posted by: moki at July 18, 2026 10:47 PM (wLjpr)

120 sheds pork product sock

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 18, 2026 10:47 PM (0aYVJ)

121 107 I thought it was the small brain and short arms, right?
Posted by: TRex - dapper dino at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (XfIK1)
TRex, have you ever had a short arm inspection?
Posted by: RI Red
********
Just noticing you didn't ask about the small brain inspection...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (XfIK1)

No need. Small brain, short arms are outweighed by large feet and other large items.
And with that, I’m outa here!

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:47 PM (fRFTM)

122 >>Also pissed off because of the Iranian plot to kill him.

They've been trying to kill for years. Does it not seem odd to anyone but me that 2 people tried to murder Trump during the election and we know absolutely nothing about either of them?

Then they plotted to kill his daughter and tonight they killed at least 2 and likely 3 Americans in Jordan.

He tried to make a deal. Now the gloves are off. The mullahs chose poorly.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:48 PM (viF8m)

123 86 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573
Posted by: Joyenz

I suggest that the Mayor and his merry band of Khmer Rouge enthusiasts be rounded up, and dropped into a vat of quick dry cement, then dropped into the ocean. But I'm a moderate.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 10:50 PM (jrKun)

124 " Not sure anyone here is interested, but Walmart's Marketside has a really nice curry chicken salad. We add hard boiled eggs and chutney to it. Delicious!
Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (2F0/Y)"

I believe I'm going to have to give that a try. Thanks for the info, Joyenz.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at July 18, 2026 10:52 PM (/HDaX)

125 There was also a story about the State Dept cancelling a NY City meeting with Iran. They think they run a private country!

Posted by: Iris at July 18, 2026 10:52 PM (286+n)

126 It's 6:30 AM in Tehran, we need some on time bomb assessment.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:52 PM (JS6jE)

127 >>Also pissed off because of the Iranian plot to kill him.

They've been trying to kill for years. Does it not seem odd to anyone but me that 2 people tried to murder Trump during the election and we know absolutely nothing about either of them?
--
Yeah, yeah, get in line
-careerists in the CIA, probably

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 18, 2026 10:53 PM (vSvIl)

128 PSA: Ewetoob is chickenshit and allows misrepresented and distorted presentations. Inaccurate too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:54 PM (JS6jE)

129 You youngsters don't remember when Fraunces' Tavern was bombed by leftists."

Yep. Dad was part of the investigative team...

Posted by: man at July 18, 2026 10:54 PM (XuXeR)

130 --
Yeah, yeah, get in line
-careerists in the CIA, probably

Posted by: Methos,
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Article said they received 101 pieces of info they disregarded.
Clean them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:56 PM (JS6jE)

131 124 " Not sure anyone here is interested, but Walmart's Marketside has a really nice curry chicken salad. We add hard boiled eggs and chutney to it. Delicious!
Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (2F0/Y)"
---

My local grocer is into that. Good to know Wally is competing.
I'll have to check them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:58 PM (JS6jE)

132 He tried to make a deal. Now the gloves are off. The mullahs chose poorly.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:48 PM (viF8m)

Need to invent a virus that causes brain aneurysms in people who bash their heads on the floor while hollering "allahu ackbar". Harmless to all others.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:59 PM (1z8ji)

133 Guten nacht, dear Hordevolk. We are about an hour outside of Yellowstone and will be going there tomorrow. Tonight was a highlight of our trip as we stopped for dinner at Pooky's cousin's house. We've always got along very well with them, and Pookette and Lil Pooky got to run around with their kids in the backyard. One of the older girls is a clone of Pookette in looks and mannerisms, and the boys share some characteristics with Lil Pooky (and Pooky) too. It's fun to see what genes seem to pop up here and there.

Posted by: pookysgirl got to drive in the Bighorns today at July 18, 2026 10:59 PM (uhKOM)

134 By the 70s American cars were de-tuned severely, from an engineering standpoint some very stupid changes were made. They ran hot and on the ragged edge to meet federal emission standards for NOX.

The carburetors weren’t really the problem, though they did install limiter caps to prevent fuckheads with screwdrivers from making things worse.

Car ain’t running right? Well, fuck with the carburetor. It’s easy to get to, it’s right there, so that must be it. The ignition timing won’t move on its own, so let’s fuck with that. Then fuck the carburetor up some more …

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:00 PM (WcNzu)

135 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (2F0/Y)

This idiot is gonna have the shin bet and the mossad fighting over who gets to stuff his silly ass into a plastic bag and sail him around NY harbor.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 11:01 PM (S41Gd)

136 >>Yeah, yeah, get in line
-careerists in the CIA, probably

The most stunning thing to me in the documents Trump just declassified was a senior FBI official stating that she was running a "shadow government".

It's one thing for a bunch of us morons to know something. When we have documented proof in their own words that kinda raises the bar. No turning back now.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 11:01 PM (viF8m)

137 The '70s was a turning point for me. From a kid to a teenager to a guy with a full time job. It's been downhill since, had to grow up and worry about stuff.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 11:02 PM (bqIVz)

138 Article said they received 101 pieces of info they disregarded.
Clean them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:56 PM (JS6jE)

CIA and FBI should both be shut down entirely, and all employees RIF'ed. Any employees who provide testimony to convict superiors of crimes will be given preference for hiring in the new agencies to replace the two closed ones.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:02 PM (1z8ji)

139 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573
Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (2F0/Y)

That could be funny. I suspect Israeli security are better shots than the NYPD. We'd also have to deliver Mamdani and any surviving policeman to the Israeli government to appease them for breaking diplomatic immunity. Perhaps his family would be required as well.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

140 Guten nacht, dear Hordevolk.

One of the older girls is a clone of Pookette in looks and mannerisms, and the boys share some characteristics with Lil Pooky (and Pooky) too. It's fun to see what genes seem to pop up here and there.
Posted by: pookysgirl

Funny that you would start with "Guten nacht."

Among my siblings and my cousins on Mom's side, there is a definite look. The look of my German grandfather. Those genes just blitzkrieged all the other ones.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

141 They've been trying to kill for years. Does it not seem odd to anyone but me that 2 people tried to murder Trump during the election and we know absolutely nothing about either of them?

The second guy, who is still alive, is the more interesting one.

He was in Ukraine, and claims he was recruiting mercs. The other people recruiting mercs say he's lying and I think they are likely telling the truth.

So...he was working for an intelligence agency. In a same world they've have water boarded him daily until he gave up his handler.

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at July 18, 2026 11:06 PM (sKqQm)

142 The carburetors weren’t really the problem, though they did install limiter caps to prevent fuckheads with screwdrivers from making things worse.

Car ain’t running right? Well, fuck with the carburetor. It’s easy to get to, it’s right there, so that must be it. The ignition timing won’t move on its own, so let’s fuck with that. Then fuck the carburetor up some more …
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:00 PM (WcNzu)

A lot of us gearheads were busting off the limiter caps, plugging the EGR, and ripping out the AIR pumps to get '70's cars into some semblance of '60's tune. You could make them run better. I never ripped out catalytic converters, though. The advent of the "cats" meant that engines could be tuned for better performance, than the non-cat engines could be. There was really no upside to ripping them out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:07 PM (1z8ji)

143 Article said they received 101 pieces of info they disregarded.
Clean them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:56 PM (JS6jE)

Quite often evidence that might lead to a conclusion that would damage either the investigating agency, or damage the reputation of the government is swept under the rug.
if the airliner was taken down by a Stinger, it brings out the question where Middle Eastern Terrorists got Stingers, and that suspicion is the ones that got misplaced when they were given to the Mujaheddin, or similar gifts to similar regional players.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:07 PM (rbvCR)

144 So...he was working for an intelligence agency. In a same world they've have water boarded him daily until he gave up his handler.
Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin

I would not want to be "water" boarded by Mr. Toobin. I'd give up my CIA contacts before they were done strapping me down.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 11:08 PM (VHUov)

145 Hey I got a Top Ten-ish
you like me
YOU REALLY LIKE ME
I'M SOMEBODY NOW
Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026

Don't get cocky Kid.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 11:09 PM (2WIwB)

146 CIA and FBI should both be shut down entirely, and all employees RIF'ed. Any employees who provide testimony to convict superiors of crimes will be given preference for hiring in the new agencies to replace the two closed ones.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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President Harry Truman wrote two op-eds in the WaPo saying they should be eliminated. He regretted that he signed the bill instituting them. I think he insinuated their involvement w/Kennedy's ultimate dilemma.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 11:10 PM (JS6jE)

147 I still like men with black hair and blue eyes.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:21 PM (hzuYO)

*quietly warns her dad to stay away from Christy*

Posted by: pookysgirl wound up blonde-haired and blue-eyed at July 18, 2026 11:10 PM (uhKOM)

148 Oh, oh, I would never ever allude to an airplane coming down off the coast of Long Island.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 11:12 PM (JS6jE)

149 This idiot is gonna have the shin bet and the mossad fighting over who gets to stuff his silly ass into a plastic bag and sail him around NY harbor.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Crabs gotta eat, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 11:14 PM (IivNP)

150 I don't understand the pasta Gadsden flag. Is it some pun about bad kerning?

Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 11:14 PM (rcENI)

151 Thanks
I needed that

Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 11:14 PM (ZxPkt)

152 By the 70s American cars were de-tuned severely, from an engineering standpoint some very stupid changes were made. They ran hot and on the ragged edge to meet federal emission standards for NOX.

The carburetors weren’t really the problem, though they did install limiter caps to prevent fuckheads with screwdrivers from making things worse.

Car ain’t running right? Well, fuck with the carburetor. It’s easy to get to, it’s right there, so that must be it. The ignition timing won’t move on its own, so let’s fuck with that. Then fuck the carburetor up some more …

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:00 PM (WcNzu)

They do that shit to harleys too. I can't believe the minimal amount of gas they try to run them on. In 1989 they started using CV carbs. When the bike was cold you had to leave them on choke for 5 minutes, or else they just wouldn't run. I drilled the lead plug out of one so I could get to the mixture screw. It was turned out like an 1/8 of a turn. The pipes were glowing cherry red under the shields. After I saw that I started drilling the plugs out and upping the jet sizes. Choke comes off in 30 seconds and they ran great.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (S41Gd)

153 >>>ripping out the AIR pumps to get '70's
---

Dad ripped out the air pump and torched up the cat pretty warm.
Big Merc.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (JS6jE)

154 Posted by: pookysgirl got to drive in the Bighorns today at July 18, 2026 10:59 PM (uhKOM)

I grew up in Cody, Wyoming. As much as I love Yellowstone, the Bighorns was my favorite camping spot. Did you get to the Medicine Wheel? It's a stonehenge type ring of stones that point to the solstices and the equinoxes. Predates the Shoshoni presence.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (0aYVJ)

155 MARINERS WIN!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (1GRHN)

156 The fashion shorts look like cut-off's from a pair of long pants. And I can't figure out the sizes (3-7)?
Posted by: Joemarine at July 18,

Leg length, when men were men and shorts were short.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 11:16 PM (sl73Y)

157 The look of my German grandfather. Those genes just blitzkrieged all the other ones.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

Hah, Lil Pooky is a dead ringer for my dad's (full German) baby pictures. Except when he has a mischievous grin. *That* he got from Pooky.

Posted by: pookysgirl was never mischievous at July 18, 2026 11:16 PM (uhKOM)

158 CIA and FBI should both be shut down entirely, and all employees RIF'ed. Any employees who provide testimony to convict superiors of crimes will be given preference for hiring in the new agencies to replace the two closed ones.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Just break each one into two. Limit the old name to what it says, and the spin-off gets the rest of the roles.

CIA --> CWDA (Central World Destruction Agency)

FBI --> FBO (Federal Bureau of Obfuscation).

After a few months, set the new organization budgets, including pensions, salary, and benefits to $0.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:18 PM (qx7Zg)

159 Well, laundry in. Second Caesar is consumed. Now time to make supper.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:18 PM (1z8ji)

160 Saijo does a great job supervising housekeeping at Piper's house.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 11:19 PM (RIvkX)

161 After a few months, set the new organization budgets, including pensions, salary, and benefits to $0.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:18 PM (qx7Zg)

Heh! Brilliant.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:20 PM (1z8ji)

162 I don't understand the pasta Gadsden flag. Is it some pun about bad kerning?
Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 11:14 PM (rcENI)

Look up the rules on voting, and the rules for Olive Garden's unlimited pasta pass.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:20 PM (qx7Zg)

163 >>The second guy, who is still alive, is the more interesting one.

He had a trial. He's been sent to prison for the rest of his life. And the media has been virtually silent about all of it. He tried to murder the guy who was once and then again became the most powerful person on the planet and the highly paid media didn't ever bother to cover it. Seems normal.

One of the reasons the deep state hated Trump in 2016 is because they wanted the war in Ukraine and Trump didn't.

We've sent somewhere around $100 billion to Ukraine and have been told there is no way to track where the money went. Ukraine is not a hot chick as Robert Palmer can attest.

But there's no telling where the money went.

https://tinyurl.com/3x2yvsrz

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 11:21 PM (viF8m)

164 And I am sure that I have seen a similar beer tap setup to that one at Fraunces Tavern at some other bar, probably in Arizona.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:22 PM (1z8ji)

165 Thanks for the ONT, 2Ds!

Greetings from the middle of Idaho--

Thanks to high-level wildfire smoke, it wasn't as hot as predicted today. Air quality is "moderate" but can't smell the smoke. Tomorrow may be different, LOL. So I mowed the yard and soaked the dogwood trees.

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 11:22 PM (rdVOm)

166 @155. MARINERS WIN!

But they sucked yesterday.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 11:23 PM (bqIVz)

167 rhomboid, spent this morning on that book you suggested on the Mediterranean it's very thorough but very succinct.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 11:24 PM (RIvkX)

168 from the hobby thread:

It'll come in handy soon as I fabricate a crane to hoist my 275lbs roof top tent on top of my Hummer.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 18, 2026 07:33 PM (WYStd)

Hey, do you have any airplane/airport acquaintances?

Those hangar bifold doors, usually made by Schweiss, weigh several thousand pounds, and can lift that 275lb roof like it's nothing. Very smooth, precise control too.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at July 18, 2026 11:24 PM (/6FUZ)

169 A very happy Saturday night to all 'Rons and 'Ettes! Currently enjoying what I have entitled a "UDMH" (Unsymmetrical DiMethylHydrazine) - Wild Turkey & Mountain Dew.

Posted by: Al Shabbah at July 18, 2026 11:26 PM (uabms)

170 166 @155. MARINERS WIN!

But they sucked yesterday.
Posted by: Case

And they were flat af today until the bottom of the 7th. I was at the game. No offense. Defense looked like a high school team. No spark. Horrid throws, errors, just awful.

Hopefully they get their shit together.

Julio won the game in the 10th. This is his first game back since he got hit in the head first of July.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 18, 2026 11:26 PM (1GRHN)

171 English teacher: Anyone want to guess who wrote Tom Sawyer?

Student: Rush?

English teacher: (low growl) That's not the answer I'm looking for.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:27 PM (qx7Zg)

172 Took my son shooting at the Beaver Dam Rock Pit this morning. I like to get there early so it's not crowded. I've shot rarely for years, but now we're spending more time at it. We still have tons to learn. Improving is fun.

I made a complicated target stand last time. I was proud of it, but it was over-engineered.This time I just brought thin 2'x3' plywood sheets and made some 10-degree cuts halfway through bits of 2x4, and that was simpler, lighter, faster, and more sturdy.

We managed to hit the plywood at 150 yards, although the paper target was nearly unscathed.

We need a better way to get feedback. I think I'll get some of those reactive targets, and maybe a spotting scope. The rifle has a 9x scope, and I have a pair of small 6x binoculars. Actually I just remembered I have some big honking 15x astronomy binoculars. Maybe those would help? But they weigh a ton and my tripod is broken.

Usually we just shoot at fixed targets and leave the shotgun at home, but I bought a plastic clay pigeon flinger, and we went through a whole box of clay pigeons (and about 150 shells). That was super fun. The shotgun magazine holds 5 shells, and I got one 5-out-of-5, and my son got a few.

Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 11:27 PM (rcENI)

173 Toilets for Competition Use Only > Can You Top This?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 18, 2026 11:28 PM (yMCWt)

174 The joke seems to have been gender swapped.
I blame Hollywood.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 18, 2026 11:28 PM (xcxpd)

175
Poop contests?

Lol

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 11:29 PM (/QHx4)

176 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: ZOD at July 18, 2026 11:29 PM (UfDpa)

177 The catalyst was necessary precisely because they had de-tuned the engines so severely. There are three components to exhaust, basically. HC, HL, and NOX. The latter is what, when exposed to sunlight, creates smog.

The problem is, when an engine is at peak efficiency and mileage, HC and HL are the lowest, but the NOX peaks. So they reduced compression, retarded valve timing, buggered the ignition timing, vacuum advance etc. it worked so far as NOX is concerned. Killed highway fuel economy and power, overheating, etc. Right in the middle of an Oil Embargo and high inflation and gas rationing.

But yeah, by lowering NOX, HC spiked, literally raw fuel was now spewing out the tailpipe. What to do?

That’s what the air injection pump was for, to couple with the platinum exhaust catalyst and burn the wasted fuel in the tailpipe.

There’s no benefit engine wise to a catalytic converter, and they tend to cause a restriction when they get loaded up and plugged.

The retarded valve timing was particularly egregious because it wasn’t so easily remedied. And when engines got some miles on them, the timing chain tends to loosen, retarding it even further.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:29 PM (WcNzu)

178 You didn’t like all the college girls in tube tops and short shorts? Really?
Posted by: Tom Servo

Maybe the "Micronauts (FTW)" should have given you a clue.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 11:29 PM (DZ9Lv)

179 How about the "peasant look?" Valerie Harper in a head bandana like she's been sharecroppin' the back 40. Yum.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (RIvkX)

180 >>You didn’t like all the college girls in tube tops and short shorts?

Trying to imagine a world where this is even a question.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (viF8m)

181 Having a Caesar break after mowing the south ditch.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Stretching out like a king after an energetic session of cunnilingus?

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (DZ9Lv)

182 I guess you can use the word "fashion" for any clothing, except maybe a burqua. That's more for camping.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (n5tGW)

183 Three words. Valerie Bert. Inelli.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (RIvkX)

184 "There is a Disney, Oklahoma? Who knew?"

Um, wow.

Grew up spending lots of time over on Grand Lake, and despite being of the Mouseclub generation, never even thought about Disney, OK not having anything to do with Disney, Walt.

There is also a Miami, OK, which not only isn't related to Florida, it's pronounced My-a-muh.

Now guess how Heavener is pronounced.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Okie by birth and choice at July 18, 2026 11:36 PM (p+5Bi)

185 I had to circle the parking lot twice, nice to see the joint is packed. Happy Saturday Horde!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 18, 2026 11:39 PM (ibDUx)

186 Pixy ate my comment!

Posted by: muldoon at July 18, 2026 11:40 PM (I0N4X)

187 Hi, Debby!

*slides Chivas down the bar*

Happy Caturday!

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 11:42 PM (rdVOm)

188 Thanks for the ONT, D's.
X-15 vid - pretty cool. The radio transmissions immediately made me think of the Six Million Dollar Man.

Posted by: scampydog at July 18, 2026 11:47 PM (41CYW)

189 *Gives thread a sternal knuckle rub.*

*rifles through pockets for loose change*

*tiptoes out*

Posted by: muldoon at July 18, 2026 11:47 PM (I0N4X)

190 That Lindsay Buckingham song is a satire, right?

Posted by: H at July 18, 2026 11:50 PM (cIjYM)

191 I just got back from walking the hell-hound. I think we each inhaled the equivalent of a pack of cigarettes due to all the wildfire smoke. He's now panting like crazy on the living room floor and trying to cool down. As for me, I'm trying to read a rule book for a new game but either my brain is dead or the instructions aren't very well written.

Posted by: PabloD at July 18, 2026 11:52 PM (5Ide7)

192 So how was your day?

Posted by: Mary Jo Kopechne at July 18, 2026 11:53 PM (gKWVE)

193 Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 10:50 PM (jrKun)

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 11:01 PM (S41Gd)

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

Perhaps the mayor and his wife will receive some new fancy beepers.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 11:55 PM (2F0/Y)

194 So how was your day?
Posted by: Mary Jo Kopechne
--------
Sucked.

Posted by: Martha Moxley at July 18, 2026 11:55 PM (XeU6L)

195 As for me, I'm trying to read a rule book for a new game but either my brain is dead or the instructions aren't very well written.
Posted by: PabloD at July 18, 2026 11:52 PM (5Ide7)

Replace the first with oxygen deprivation from the smoke, then go with And.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:55 PM (qx7Zg)

196 I grew up in Cody, Wyoming. As much as I love Yellowstone, the Bighorns was my favorite camping spot. Did you get to the Medicine Wheel? It's a stonehenge type ring of stones that point to the solstices and the equinoxes. Predates the Shoshoni presence.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (0aYVJ)

We drove 14A, which is the Medicine Wheel Scenic Byway (or something). We were very confused by the boats we saw being towed until we got to Sibley Lake. Pookette has never been in the mountains before and was fascinated by our car's GPS, which basically functioned as an altimeter. We don't think we got higher than 9400 ft, but we told her that these were the warm-up mountains!

Posted by: pookysgirl could happily stay out here for a long time at July 18, 2026 11:57 PM (uhKOM)

197 Buckingham is a pretty decent guitar player. He’s a big reason the 70s era Mac has the best selling, or one of the best selling albums of all time.

“Never Going Back Again” is fun to play on the guitar, or try to anyhow. I sure as hell can’t play it at tempo. I bought a couple of his solo albums in the 90s and he is a perfectionist in the studio in terms of sonics, they really sounded great. Rumors was recorded pretty well too. Still could never understand what the hell Stevie Nicks was saying. But at the time I didn’t care.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:57 PM (WcNzu)

198 Guy on the news says people need to break out their COVID masks because of the smoke that Canada is blowing on us.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 11:57 PM (bqIVz)

199 Flock Safety Defends Cameras After AI System Triggers Wrongful Police Stops Of Two Journalists

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 11:58 PM (JS6jE)

200 Worth reading, Things don't really change that much and evil does exist and takes a lot names.

Telling the truth costs in the short term but it is never the wrong thing to say. And now evil is here again. And it won't stay in places you don't like.

https://tinyurl.com/bddewvmy

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 11:58 PM (viF8m)

201 Speaking of Massachusetts

@MassDailyNews
BREAKING: Dead body found at Mattapan home owned by Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley's husband as Boston Police open death investigation

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 11:59 PM (gKWVE)

202 Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at July 18, 2026 10:52 PM (/HDaX)

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:58 PM (JS6jE)

I hope you both enjoy it if you find it. It has almonds, just in case that's important to anyone.

https://tinyurl.com/3kjwcb85

Posted by: Joyenz at July 19, 2026 12:01 AM (2F0/Y)

203 I seem to recall an interview with other Fleetwood Mac members, or maybe it was people who worked with them, who said they'd get pissed off at Buckingham and kick him out of the band. But then they'd have to hire two guitarists to replace him, because he was that good, so they'd eventually let him back in. May or may not be true.

Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 12:04 AM (5Ide7)

204 So how was your day?

Posted by: Mary Jo Kopechne at July 18, 2026 11:53 PM (gKWVE)
-

Nothing but arguments with family and friends.

But it's all water under the bridge now.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:04 AM (yMCWt)

205 Franpsycho, glad you got the book and enjoy it. It certainly put me some major additional knowledge about the Med and also the Italian military situation. As I said when we discussed this here, the Italian navy was no joke, and the RN took it very seriously.

Think Vince is working on another book, can't remember topic. Saw him at a naval history conference here in February. Very nice guy.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 12:04 AM (U/Byj)

206 I don't get why they didn't kick out Stevie Nicks instead in the mid 80s. Tango In The Night was a Buckingham McVie album. Except for "Seven Wonders" and Nicks sounded drunk off her ass through that one.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 12:06 AM (gKWVE)

207 Oh, whoever recommended “The Great Influenza” book, I started to look through the pictures today, thanks a lot! But … I think I’m too scared to even read it. Or it’s at least depressing

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:06 AM (WcNzu)

208 Thanks JQ!

Ayanna Pressley's husband is an ex-con who has just landed a lucrative state contract under Governor Maura Healy. I live in a cesspool.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 12:07 AM (ibDUx)

209 Ayanna Pressley's husband is an ex-con who has just landed a lucrative state contract under Governor Maura Healy. I live in a cesspool.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 12:07 AM (ibDUx)

Who is the corpus delicti?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:08 AM (1z8ji)

210 "Nicks sounded drunk off her ass through that one."

Look, someone has to drink the bottle of Crown Royal so we can toss the empty and make room in the nifty bag for the cocaine.

Posted by: Stevie Nicks at July 19, 2026 12:08 AM (5Ide7)

211 Off, goat-bleating sock.

Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 12:09 AM (5Ide7)

212 Is Pressley the Star Trek alien lookin babe with the cue ball head? It’s tough to keep up

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:09 AM (WcNzu)

213 Earf could be trying to tell the turbans something. Pretty decent-sized quake in Ahvaz, Iran area just a short time ago. No info on damage.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 12:10 AM (U/Byj)

214 I bet neither England nor France gave a ratz adz about the consolation game. Athletes HATE those.

Except in the Whorled Cup, you don't see much of those any more.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:10 AM (RCjYY)

215 Hillary Clinton Jr.

No, not Chelsea:

https://tinyurl.com/5hfnym2f

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:12 AM (yMCWt)

216 There was some trick to start cars by pouring gasoline on the carburetor, or that was what I understood as I never did it.“

I had a friend in college with a ‘69 Firebird (great car!) and we were trying that. He was over the carb putting gas in it and asked me to crank the engine. (We learned later that the problem was a slipped timing chain). Anyway the engine did a big backfire through the carb right into his face. We should have been horribly concerned for him - except when he pulled his head out from under the hood, he looked EXACTLY like one of those loony tune characters after a bomb goes off and they have little bits of rags in their hair around theit black face.
And he squeezed his eyes closed, so he also looked like a raccoon!
Anyway we were all laughing so hard we couldn’t even stand up!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 12:12 AM (l+3gx)

217 Wasn't the Fleetwood Mac band all having sex with each other?

Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 12:13 AM (bqIVz)

218 I seem to recall an interview with other Fleetwood Mac members, or maybe it was people who worked with them, who said they'd get pissed off at Buckingham and kick him out of the band. But then they'd have to hire two guitarists to replace him, because he was that good, so they'd eventually let him back in. May or may not be true.
Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 12:04 AM (5Ide7)

My great-great uncle was the blacksmith at a sandstone quarry my great grandfather managed, and he managed to get wildly drunk and got fired periodically. They quarry would hire another blacksmith, and the carvers would complain that the new guy couldn't face their chisels right, so eventually my great grandfather would be forced to hire his own brother back, and made him promise to not drink anymore, again.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 12:13 AM (rbvCR)

219 All y’all whinging about the forest fire smoke…..

This happens EVERY YEAR in western WA. Suck it up. It’s not the end of the world.

It is your cave man brain yelling at you for not recognizing there’s a fire and not running away. That’s it. Calm down.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:14 AM (k0MVD)

220 Trump administration activates never-before-used 'alien terrorist ...
TodayThe Trump administration has activated a secretive and never-before-used legal process to quickly deport foreign nationals deemed to be "alien terrorists" or their immediate family members._MSN

_o, the horror

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:17 AM (JS6jE)

221 Relax, nurse--

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:18 AM (rdVOm)

222 We get the wildfire smoke every year, too.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:18 AM (rdVOm)

223 *Test Pattern*

Posted by: Penguin Pete at July 19, 2026 12:19 AM (JM9I6)

224 Don’t get your titties in a twister, JQ.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:19 AM (yEz+x)

225 LA is deteriorating:

https://t.co/VdOSgfKkOn

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:19 AM (yMCWt)

226 So you know its not Armageddon.

These east coasters. Jeepers. Think they’d never smelled burning wood before.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:20 AM (BL1uJ)

227 Trump administration activates never-before-used 'alien terrorist ...
TodayThe Trump administration has activated a secretive and never-before-used legal process to quickly deport foreign nationals deemed to be "alien terrorists" or their immediate family members._MSN

_o, the horror

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:17 AM (JS6jE)

We need some whacky monty python contraption, like maybe a conveyor belt and a big ass boot at the end that kicks the fuckers into orbit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 12:21 AM (S41Gd)

228 Anyway we were all laughing so hard we couldn’t even stand up!

Posted by: Tom Servo
---

Yes, pour that 1/4 cup of gasoline down the carb at arms length.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9GbGO7CKdQ

1

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:21 AM (JS6jE)

229 Earf could be trying to tell the turbans something. Pretty decent-sized quake in Ahvaz, Iran area just a short time ago. No info on damage.
Posted by: rhomboid

4.9? Meh.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 19, 2026 12:23 AM (DZ9Lv)

230 The past couple of years haven't been too bad for smoke in my AO. For the 4 or 5 years before that most summers were terrible. Our "big" local fire (14K acres) is to the north, but the winds shifted two days ago so now we're getting the smoke. I don't mind it in some ways - kinda makes the whole place smell like a campfire - but I know it's not good to constantly breathe in this crap.

Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 12:23 AM (5Ide7)

231 Don’t get your titties in a twister, JQ.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Honey, you're the one who started off with the big shout.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:24 AM (rdVOm)

232 Earf could be trying to tell the turbans something. Pretty decent-sized quake in Ahvaz, Iran area just a short time ago. No info on damage.
Posted by: rhomboid

4.9? Meh.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 19, 2026 12:23 AM (DZ9Lv)

Wait until we use the bigger bombs. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 12:25 AM (S41Gd)

233 Trade dump to Iran for missing soldier. j,d will have to leave the sofa alone.

Posted by: raimondo at July 19, 2026 12:26 AM (d3O12)

234 Rainman should go to Iran and show us all how it's done.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:27 AM (rdVOm)

235 yeah, retardo, because you bit all the cushions

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 12:28 AM (gKWVE)

236 Rainman should go to Iran and show us all how it's done.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:27 AM (rdVOm)

They like nice tight assholes. He's damaged goods.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:28 AM (1z8ji)

237 >>231 Don’t get your titties in a twister, JQ.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Inserts appendage into twister. Smiles, nods.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:30 AM (UfDpa)

238 Gasoline is different today, they don’t need to worry about vapor pressure index now that fuel injection rules.

Modern gas and Carbureted engines will boil off the lighter end volatiles in the bowl fairly quickly on shutdown, and over time, say a week, making the engine hard to start. It’s deceptive because the fuel bowl has fuel in it, but it’s stale.

Pouring a small amount of fresh fuel down the carb throat does work, maybe a tablespoon. It will start as normal. Always replace the air cleaner though, before cranking the engine over!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:30 AM (WcNzu)

239 ZOD!

*curtsies*
*places flowers at feet*

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:31 AM (yEz+x)

240 Went to a memorial service today for a friend of my Dad's, of our family, lawyer. Held at the church I attended as a yout' back in the long-ago. Place looks the same. Some changes in ceremony and staff ♀.

Hadn't tried on my funeral suit since Mom's funeral several years back. As expected, it didn't fit. My body has had some changes. The dress shoes fit, anyway. For those who judge you by the shoes.

I even took communion. Remarkably, I did not burst into flame.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the more things stay the same at July 19, 2026 12:31 AM (p+5Bi)

241 217 Wasn't the Fleetwood Mac band all having sex with each other?
Posted by: Case

Yes. Rumors was made with all the various relationships exploding apart.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 12:32 AM (jrKun)

242 Inserts appendage into twister. Smiles, nods.
Posted by: ZOD

As long as it's your own appendage, bucko.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:32 AM (rdVOm)

243 @234 I opposed netanhayu's con of dump going into Iran. Donald dump has got himself in a terrible jam way down yonder in Iran! Gas over 5$ gallon for mid term will even make the dump goobers vote rethugliKKKans out. You over here now JQ?

Posted by: raimondo at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (d3O12)

244 225

Iran is threatening to unleash the full fury of its proxy terrorist groups again-- Houthis; Hezbollah.

That would draw Israel back into the war, I believe. Israel's target list complements ours, I believe, but the lists aren't identical. Israel places a greater emphasis on drone and missile production; the U.S. heretofore on naval bases and air defense installations.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (RCjYY)

245 >>These east coasters. Jeepers. Think they’d never smelled burning wood before.

Sure we have.

We just don't have it on a daily basis as you west coast chaz people accept as normal.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (viF8m)

246 86 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573
Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (2F0/Y)

My guess is that he is giving a sly "ok" to people to attack Netanyahu.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 12:34 AM (6wpGE)

247 Waiting for Canis Zod II to leave us tonight. No vet and he likely won't see the sunrise. Only six, and Mrs. is well out of town taking care of her sister.

Night watch.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:34 AM (UfDpa)

248 "Here" rainman?

LOL

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:35 AM (rdVOm)

249 >>As long as it's your own appendage, bucko.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:32 AM (rdVOm)

(inserts JQ's appendage)

Suffer. Do it now.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:36 AM (UfDpa)

250 Waiting for Canis Zod II to leave us tonight. No vet and he likely won't see the sunrise. Only six, and Mrs. is well out of town taking care of her sister.

Night watch.
Posted by: ZOD

Very sorry to read this, ZOD. Our fuzzy friends are the best, and we miss them dearly when they leave.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:36 AM (rdVOm)

251 Suffer. Do it now.
Posted by: ZOD

No.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:37 AM (rdVOm)

252 These east coasters. Jeepers. Think they’d never smelled burning wood before.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:20 AM (BL1uJ)

Only when Pinocchio watches Pronhub.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:38 AM (1z8ji)

253 Waiting for Canis Zod II to leave us tonight. No vet and he likely won't see the sunrise. Only six, and Mrs. is well out of town taking care of her sister.

Night watch.
Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:34 AM (UfDpa)

Condolences, ZOD.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:38 AM (1z8ji)

254 Iran is threatening to unleash the full fury of its proxy terrorist groups again-- Houthis; Hezbollah.

That would draw Israel back into the war, I believe. Israel's target list complements ours, I believe, but the lists aren't identical. Israel places a greater emphasis on drone and missile production; the U.S. heretofore on naval bases and air defense installations.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (RCjYY)

The Houthis and Hezbollah haven’t been able to resupply. No doubt they still have some things hidden away, but they’re both at only a small fraction of the strength they had two years ago.

Especially the Houthi - they’re not an industrialized society, the only weapons they have are what Iran sends them, and that pipeline has been shut down for a while now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 12:39 AM (l+3gx)

255 Always replace the air cleaner though, before cranking the engine over!

Posted by: Common Tater
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Bomba loo

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:41 AM (JS6jE)

256 The Houthis could make the Red Sea the new Straight of Hormuz, some fear.. $100/bbl.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:42 AM (RCjYY)

257 Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573
Posted by: Joyenz

My guess is that he is giving a sly "ok" to people to attack Netanyahu.
Posted by: m
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No doubt.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:42 AM (rdVOm)

258 254 Iran is threatening to unleash the full fury of its proxy terrorist groups again-- Houthis; Hezbollah.

That would draw Israel back into the war, I believe. Israel's target list complements ours, I believe, but the lists aren't identical. Israel places a greater emphasis on drone and missile production; the U.S. heretofore on naval bases and air defense installations.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (RCjYY)
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Typical Iran, they don't know what they are asking for.
Israel is chomping at the bit.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:44 AM (JS6jE)

259 Q. Why has Eric Swalwell pivoted into AI?

A. Someone mentioned something about a Chinese model named Kimi.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 12:45 AM (IG3/x)

260 WOW. I need a cigarette.

Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 12:46 AM (bqIVz)

261 Mamdani is hell on wheels for giving illegal alien criminals sanctuary, but he has time to arrest the Israeli PM.

Priorities.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:46 AM (RCjYY)

262 Looking at what the Iranians have been saying the last few days (and of course it’s all crap, but an occasional truth sometimes slips through accidentally) I think that Iran may intentionally pull Israel back in with a major ballistic missile attack on both Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

Iran is actually quite predictable; just ask yourself what a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur and Tourette’s syndrome would do, and you’ll have your answer.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 12:48 AM (l+3gx)

263 > Yes. Rumors was made with all the various relationships exploding apart.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 12:32 AM (jrKun)

I forget which member of Jefferson (aerospace vehicle) it was who said that whoever Grace was fucking that week was the person in charge of the band.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 12:48 AM (IG3/x)

264 and mean Trump blew up the rail bridge from China

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:51 AM (JS6jE)

265 The Houthis could make the Red Sea the new Straight of Hormuz, some fear.. $100/bbl.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:42 AM (RCjYY)

If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit? Not the Saudis, not the Yemenis, and they are on the front lines.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:51 AM (1z8ji)

266 >>whoever Grace was fucking that week was the person in charge of the band.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 12:48 AM (IG3/x)

ZOD Airplane, 1969-1971.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:52 AM (UfDpa)

267 Intentionally bringing Israel back into the war. Wow. Kind of like Monty Python's one-legged knight skit.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:52 AM (RCjYY)

268 If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit?
-
Um, hello?

Posted by: Every US media outlet at July 19, 2026 12:54 AM (vSvIl)

269 263

I loved Grace Slick's singing. Still do. She's turned into a crazy old cat lady who threatens cops now.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:56 AM (RCjYY)

270
I just had to read about the X-15 program. That paved the way for spaceflight. The X-15 set records that still stand today. Speed record of Mach 6.7, and an altitude record of 354, 200'.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 12:57 AM (w6EFb)

271 Um, hello?
Posted by: Every US media outlet at July 19, 2026 12:54 AM (vSvIl)

They'd have to find out about it, wouldn't they? They don't send reporters out anymore; they rely upon stringers in the field. If the Houthi-controlled area suddenly went radio-silent, who would know?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:58 AM (1z8ji)

272 When they went from a plane to a ship Casady exited, said he was glad to be away from all the 'hate Nixon', hate this, hate that.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:00 AM (JS6jE)

273 268 If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit?
-
Um, hello?
Posted by: Every US media outlet

Yea, they'd pull out photos of mid 60s Beirut (pre CW anyway) and claim it's how the Houthis used to live before BADORANGEMAN bombed them.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 01:00 AM (v9vY1)

274 Sleepy time. See you hooligans on the Book Thread.

Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 01:01 AM (5Ide7)

275 Remember how someone murdered Obama's chef as his Martha's Vineyard McMansion?

Well, someone murdered a guy at Ayanna Pressley's McMansion as well

Who knew Mass dems have such a lust for blood?

Note this will get way less press attention then ICE shooting someone trying to run them down

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 01:02 AM (sKqQm)

276 AOP, scant details about the body discovery, It will be interesting to learn the details. Most stuff here is behind a paywall. Mr. Pressley is named Conan Harris.

JQ, I am going to have another please and treat yourself as well.

In other local news Sen. Ed Markey is on the campaign trail calling for Trump to be impeached over his speech Thursday night. The man is 80 years old and he hasn't actually resided in Ma. for years.

Zod, I am sorry about you doggo.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:03 AM (ibDUx)

277 Self identified communists are now running major American cities. If you think any of this normal or won't be coming for you town because you don't live in San Francisco, Seattle or NYC you are mistaken.

When evil shows its face you can either stand up and fight back despite the ridicule you will face or surrender. And guns won't save you.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:03 AM (viF8m)

278 267 Intentionally bringing Israel back into the war. Wow. Kind of like Monty Python's one-legged knight skit.

Posted by: mnw
--

Geniuses think it will distract them from Lebanon and Gaza.
It will distract the media from Lebanon and Gaza.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:04 AM (JS6jE)

279 ZOD

I’m sorry. I remember when you got him.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 01:04 AM (zbJ2L)

280 Slick was always nuts. She was turned away from the Nixon era White House, as a guest or companion of someone else. They knew who she was, her plan was by her account, to dose everybody with acid.

There’s a neat Dick Cavett show you can watch filmed the day after the Woodstock hippie disaster in upstate NY. The Airplane, Joni Mitchell, and Stephen Stills and David Crosby are there. Slick was over 30 by then, and shouldn’t have been trusted, after all. Stills is still wearing his blanket poncho, Crosby is a first class twat, Mitchell is a bit spacy, etc.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:05 AM (WcNzu)

281 When evil shows its face you can either stand up and fight back despite the ridicule you will face or surrender. And guns won't save you.
-
wut

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 19, 2026 01:07 AM (vSvIl)

282 Thank you, Debby. Sounds good!

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:08 AM (rdVOm)

283
268 If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit?
-
Um, hello?
Posted by: Every US media outlet at July 19, 2026 12:54 AM (vSvIl)

The funny part is that during the last Dust Up, Israeli intelligence learned of a “secret” all hands on deck meeting of the Houthi leadership, and they hit it. They killed the president, the defense minister, almost all of the various cabinet ministers, and most of the top military generals all at the same time.

And you’ve probably never seen a word about that in any mainstream media.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 01:08 AM (l+3gx)

284 Thanks to the ONT the other night, I learned that Saudi Prince MBS bought Leonardo's Salvator Mundi... and is said to have it on display in his yacht.

And I thought Nick Cage was crazy for paying $3 million for a Mongolian dinosaur skeleton.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:09 AM (RCjYY)

285 Joni Mitchell wrote “Woodstock”, though she didn’t attend, because of the Dick Cavett show taping. CSN&Y covered it and got a hit out of it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:10 AM (WcNzu)

286 In other local news Sen. Ed Markey is on the campaign trail calling for Trump to be impeached ...
-

This is good. All the collectivists coming together showing the mushy middle who they are. The more they show the more inconsistencies become apparent.
Before long, water cooler conversations go from; he's a fool, that not the way it works, to, they're crazy. Come on Krazy Commies, show us what you've got.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:11 AM (JS6jE)

287 >>I’m sorry. I remember when you got him.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 01:04 AM (zbJ2L)

Thanks. He's tough. I may be over-reading it, but it doesn't look good. Morning may show promise.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 01:12 AM (UfDpa)

288 > 280 Slick was always nuts. She was turned away from the Nixon era White House, as a guest or companion of someone else. They knew who she was, her plan was by her account, to dose everybody with acid.

She went to Finch College with Tricia Nixon, and all of the classmates were invited to Tricia's wedding.

Pretty soon someone realized who the former Grace Wing was, and the invitation was canceled.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:13 AM (IG3/x)

289 Waiting for Canis Zod II to leave us tonight. No vet and he likely won't see the sunrise. Only six, and Mrs. is well out of town taking care of her sister.

Night watch.
Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:34 AM (UfDpa)

I'm so sorry. I pray for an easy transition to the bridge.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 19, 2026 01:15 AM (2F0/Y)

290 >>>a neat Dick Cavett show you can watch...
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Sophia Loren seduce Marcello Mastroianni live on the set.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:16 AM (JS6jE)

291 > 284 Thanks to the ONT the other night, I learned that Saudi Prince MBS bought Leonardo's Salvator Mundi... and is said to have it on display in his yacht.

You have to wonder how he justifies having such an overtly Christian painting on display.

Yes, I know they consider Jesus a prophet, but "Salvator Mundi" means "Savior of the World", which Muslims definitely do NOT believe.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:17 AM (IG3/x)

292 Illegal aliens to lose access to American banking services under Trump admin in move to encourage self-deportation
"The Treasury Department just issued new guidance to financial institutions to banks,"
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller announced.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:20 AM (JS6jE)

293 You have to wonder how he justifies having such an overtly Christian painting on display.

Yes, I know they consider Jesus a prophet, but "Salvator Mundi" means "Savior of the World", which Muslims definitely do NOT believe.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:17 AM (IG3/x)

MBS is one of the "good" muslims. Maybe he is trying to bridge the gulf between islam and Christianity. Or maybe he is a crypto-Christian?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:21 AM (1z8ji)

294 Yes, I know they consider Jesus a prophet, but "Salvator Mundi" means "Savior of the World", which Muslims definitely do NOT believe.

Islam is weird. Muhammed said the Bible was real and true but then claims Jesus was not the son of God. So by Muhammed's own words Islam is false.

And...amusingly he died the way he said a false prophet would

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 01:23 AM (sKqQm)

295 >>You have to wonder how he justifies having such an overtly Christian painting on display.

Yes, I know they consider Jesus a prophet, but "Salvator Mundi" means "Savior of the World", which Muslims definitely do NOT believe.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Could it be that back behind the drapes some of the top Islamic leaders are talking about a type of reformation rhyming with those done by Jews and Christians?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:23 AM (JS6jE)

296 277 Self identified communists are now running major American cities. If you think any of this normal or won't be coming for you town because you don't live in San Francisco, Seattle or NYC you are mistaken.

When evil shows its face you can either stand up and fight back despite the ridicule you will face or surrender. And guns won't save you.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:03 AM (viF8m)

I’m only surprised Austin is not on this list.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 01:24 AM (8l6/L)

297 True story:

Grace Slick once attended a Martin Mull show (comedian and musician). Mull asked his manager to invite her backstage when he found out she was there, because he'd always wanted to meet her.

Marty, remember when security removed that screaming drunk woman at intermission?

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:25 AM (RCjYY)

298 281 When evil shows its face you can either stand up and fight back despite the ridicule you will face or surrender. And guns won't save you.
-
wut
Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 19, 2026 01:07 AM (vSvIl)

Well just surrender. We’re screwed anyway
(Whine)

Posted by: AoS Defeatists and Eeyores at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (8l6/L)

299 >>295 >>You have to wonder how he justifies having such an overtly Christian painting on display.

It's a scalp.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (UfDpa)

300 300

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (6wpGE)

301 nurse, if you are still around, I saw your news last night that you are going to be a grandma, congratulations, that baby is going to bring so much joy to your life.

Braenyard, I agree, the crazy transperson running to succeed Platner in Maine is making some very absurd claims about ovulating and having "her" period rectally. You can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (ibDUx)

302 288 > 280 Slick was always nuts. She was turned away from the Nixon era White House, as a guest or companion of someone else. They knew who she was, her plan was by her account, to dose everybody with acid.

She went to Finch College with Tricia Nixon, and all of the classmates were invited to Tricia's wedding.

Pretty soon someone realized who the former Grace Wing was, and the invitation was canceled.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:13 AM (IG3/x)

Damn. I always knew she was crazy, but damn.

I remember when China Kantner was a sometimes VJ on MTV. She was hot. (Back in the 1980s.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 01:29 AM (8l6/L)

303 One way to look at the Cosmic Conflict is simply Truth v Lies. Pretty much all the conflicts boil down to that. I've always been partial to Truth, and the Spirit Of has, so it seems to me, led me to it even when the Lies are convincing. I pray for great victories for Truth, great and sudden and soon.

Meanwhile, a night's rest, to face the morrow.

https://youtu.be/4KygdhHI_eE

G'nite, truth warriors.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - what me bookie? at July 19, 2026 01:29 AM (p+5Bi)

304 The Houthis could make the Red Sea the new Straight of Hormuz, some fear.. $100/bbl.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:42 AM (RCjYY)

If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit? Not the Saudis, not the Yemenis, and they are on the front lines.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:51 AM (1z8ji)

I sure the fuck wouldn't care. As far as the ME is concerned sometimes genocide is your friend.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 01:29 AM (S41Gd)

305 Braenyard, I agree, the crazy transperson running to succeed Platner in Maine is making some very absurd claims about ovulating and having "her" period rectally. You can't make this stuff up.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (ibDUx)

It probably has a period after every vigorous session of sodomy. Twice a week, even!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:29 AM (1z8ji)

306 A young man reaches the age where he becomes interested in young ladies. His dad wants to have a Talk with him.

"Stay away from the girl next door. She's actually your sister. Same with the girl on the other side, and the one across the street, and..."

The next day the boy's mother says "Fool around with whoever you want. He's not your father."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:33 AM (IG3/x)

307 LOL AOP, my thoughts too.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:33 AM (ibDUx)

308 >> the crazy transperson running to succeed Platner in Maine is making some very absurd claims about ovulating and having "her" period rectally. You can't make this stuff up.

Wow.

Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:35 AM (rdVOm)

309 Awww, the kitty is curled up atop the basket of freshly line-dried laundry.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:36 AM (1z8ji)

310 What can you do if a Commie runs for office? Vote against them, that's about all. If voters want that and the Commie wins that is on the voters. And yes there are some that are that stupid.

Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (bqIVz)

311 Hahaha, AOP-- kitty is now a basket case!

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (rdVOm)

312 I saw a photo of that Maine tranny. Anyone who wants to sodomize THAT must be a blind faggot.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (RCjYY)

313 Theory I saw the other day:

Someone claimed Tolkien's hobbits were anarchists (obviously they weren't... they had mayors and gentry and so on).

Someone else noted that the hobbits engaged in a complex covert mission to make sure a pro-hobbit King was installed in Gondor.

Hobbits aren't anarchists. Hobbits are the CIA.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (IG3/x)

314 Seem to recall a story about Grace Slick getting a visit at her home by the cops. She answered the door naked and holding a shotgun. Alcohol may have been involved.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 01:38 AM (v9vY1)

315
Gay bowel syndrome used to be a term for such. It's considered hateful and insensitive now. Of course.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 01:38 AM (w6EFb)

316 313 Theory I saw the other day:

Someone claimed Tolkien's hobbits were anarchists (obviously they weren't... they had mayors and gentry and so on).

Someone else noted that the hobbits engaged in a complex covert mission to make sure a pro-hobbit King was installed in Gondor.

Hobbits aren't anarchists. Hobbits are the CIA.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

tinyurl.com/mr2kvp3s

Unused Audio Commentary by Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky, Recorded Summer 2002 for The Fellowship of the Ring (Platinum Series Extended Edition) DVD, Part One

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 01:40 AM (v9vY1)

317
Doomscrolling through X tonight, which is a mistake to begin with, with one "mainstream" Dem after another panicking in horror all over the place at their DemonSpAwn. Not a one trying to figure out where they came from.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 01:41 AM (mmrXZ)

318 Gasoline is different today, they don’t need to worry about vapor pressure index now that fuel injection rules.

Modern gas and Carbureted engines will boil off the lighter end volatiles in the bowl fairly quickly on shutdown, and over time, say a week, making the engine hard to start. It’s deceptive because the fuel bowl has fuel in it, but it’s stale.

Pouring a small amount of fresh fuel down the carb throat does work, maybe a tablespoon. It will start as normal. Always replace the air cleaner though, before cranking the engine over!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:30 AM (WcNzu)

Yeah my '69 roadrunner is a wee bit of a bitch to start when it sits for some weeks. It always starts eventually, but not instantly after sitting for a month or so. It will take about 5-6 cranking sessions for about 5-10 seconds each and a lot of pumping the gas.The harley's on the other hand start instantly after sitting for 4-5 months, and thats because I can shut the fuel off to run it dry, so when its time to start them I turn the gas on and it gets a clean shot of gas. I usually will drain the gas at that time and put fresh gas in, but they always start right up.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 01:41 AM (S41Gd)

319 314

I alluded to that in an earlier post (above):

"She's turned into a crazy old cat lady who threatens the cops"

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:41 AM (RCjYY)

320
Awww, the kitty is curled up atop the basket of freshly line-dried laundry.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

===============

They have radar. I pile freshly dried laundry on my unmade bed and the cat knows exactly where to curl up.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 01:43 AM (mmrXZ)

321 >>I’m only surprised Austin is not on this list.

It is. As is your town and mine.

The biggest reveal we got from Trump's win in 2024 is they are no longer pretending. Ask Tucker or Candace or the other dirtbag "influencers" who magically appeared to tell you how much Trrump sucks and i controlled by evil Jews.

It's probably organic. Said nobody with an IQ above room temperature.

We aren't fighting Democrats. We are fighting communists. Trump dropped the first of what will be ongoing doc drop that proved conclusively China i fucking with our elections likely paying our media to support them.

What do people think is going on?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:43 AM (viF8m)

322
Reading about the X-15, I got off on the tangent of the official definition of "space", the altitude above which one can be said to have been in space, and qualify for astronaut wings/status.

The Air Force defined that originally as 50 miles. The Karman line is sort of the internationally defined boundary, at 100km or 62 miles. But for the US, military and NASA, 50 miles remains the standard. With commercial crews, it's a bit more ambiguous, but 50 miles sort of applies.

But, after Bezos' Penis Rocket up and down thing, they've revised the rules. So, thankfully Katy Perry and Gayle King will not qualify for astronaut status at all.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 01:46 AM (w6EFb)

323 Cats know the sound of sheets being shook open, too.

Just *try* to make that bed without their "help" LOL.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:46 AM (rdVOm)

324 Ha JQ, somewhere in my cellar is a cuckoo clock, the official timepiece of the democrat party.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:48 AM (ibDUx)

325 323 Cats know the sound of sheets being shook open, too.

Just *try* to make that bed without their "help" LOL.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:46 AM (rdVOm)

Piper submitted a good photo of that process on the pet thread!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:51 AM (6wpGE)

326
Katy Perry's official designation is "spaceflight participant". She gets a participation trophy.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 01:51 AM (w6EFb)

327 Yeah my '69 roadrunner is a wee bit of a bitch to start when it sits for some weeks. It always starts eventually, but not instantly after sitting for a month or so. It will take about 5-6 cranking sessions for about 5-10 seconds each and a lot of pumping the gas.The harley's on the other hand start instantly after sitting for 4-5 months, and thats because I can shut the fuel off to run it dry, so when its time to start them I turn the gas on and it gets a clean shot of gas. I usually will drain the gas at that time and put fresh gas in, but they always start right up.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 01:41 AM (S41Gd)

Well, I presume the Harleys have gravity feed from the tank. Open the fuel petcock, and the carburetor fills right away. Your Roadrunner has a 4-barrel carb sitting right on top of the engine, which was hot when you parked it, so most of the gas in the carb, and maybe some in the lines and fuel pump boiled off, and some of the rest evaporated. So you have to crank and crank to make that pump suck up gas from the tank and fill the carb. My old driver cars have electric fuel pumps down by the tank, and the mechanical fuel pump bypassed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:51 AM (1z8ji)

328 the crazy transperson running to succeed Platner in Maine is making some very absurd claims about ovulating and having "her" period rectally.
--------------------

The jokes write themselves.

Just kidding, the jokes ran away ululating in horror.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (vE0+H)

329 LOL, Debby! Demonrat timepiece!

I have one also-- it's in the living room, but doesn't work. My lib sis bought it in Germany & couldn't get it repaired so was going to throw it away. It's too pretty to just trash, so I asked for it.

Not going to get it repaired as it would be too annoying. But it's nice to look at.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (rdVOm)

330
The jokes write themselves.

Just kidding, the jokes ran away ululating in horror.
Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (vE0+H)

You have to admit that Susan Collins could not ask for a better opponent in the general, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:55 AM (1z8ji)

331 Not going to get it repaired as it would be too annoying. But it's nice to look at.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (rdVOm)

Send it to the Gestapo clock shop. "Ve haff vays of making you tock!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:57 AM (1z8ji)

332 Many years ago, I had two cats. The older one liked to climb up the bed & sleep between the blanket and comforter. Young cat liked to play.

So, when old cat (lump in the bed) moved... young cat would pounce! LOL, and the fight was ON.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:57 AM (rdVOm)

333
Tulsi Gabbard's older brother arrested in Hawaii for trying to lure children to his hotel room.

The article at Daily Mail says he has mental problems and other issues.

Posted by: four seasons at July 19, 2026 02:00 AM (/QHx4)

334 I learned quickly, that kitty claws could penetrate the comforter (ouch!) when playing with old cat lump.

So, I started tossing match books onto the lump. Lump would bat them away! It was a fun game for both of us.

Simple toys for simple minds...

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:01 AM (rdVOm)

335 The article at Daily Mail says he has mental problems and other issues.

Posted by: four seasons at July 19, 2026 02:00 AM (/QHx4)

In other words he's a Democrat.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 02:04 AM (vE0+H)

336 331 Not going to get it repaired as it would be too annoying. But it's nice to look at.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (rdVOm)

Send it to the Gestapo clock shop. "Ve haff vays of making you tock!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:57 AM (1z8ji)

; )

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:05 AM (6wpGE)

337
...probably

Posted by: four seasons at July 19, 2026 02:05 AM (/QHx4)

338
Katy Perry's official designation is "spaceflight participant". She gets a participation trophy.
Posted by: publius

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Oh ffs Katy just call yourself a passenger like the rest of us. I'm not an "airflight participant" on some stupid Southwest commuter.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:06 AM (mmrXZ)

339 This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 02:14 AM (yMCWt)

340 @321 JackStraw.

"What do people think is going on?"

A lot of things go on in politics.I would hope voters would be serious about who they vote for. And choose wisely. I think most people really want the country in good hands and our rights and Constitution protected. The one thing that concerns me the most is votes are legal and counted correctly. Fraud should be a prison sentence. There are things that need to be cleaned up in some of the states. And we know which states they are, don't we.

Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 02:16 AM (bqIVz)

341
I think "participant" has a bit of a more insulting connotation, really.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:16 AM (w6EFb)

342 Biden's Dog I bet that James Talerico has that magazine cover framed and hanging in his bedroom above the shelf holding his stuffed animal collection.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 02:17 AM (ibDUx)

343 This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Huh. Looks like Ellen skips *leg day*

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:17 AM (rdVOm)

344 Fox News

Honolulu police allege [Batarti] Gabbard approached several children, including a 9-year-old boy, asked for their names, wrote them in a notebook and offered them money and gum if they would accompany him to his hotel room. ...

According to police, the children refused and Gabbard walked away.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:18 AM (6wpGE)

345 Like Graham, Collins probably has good constituent service. Her voters know her personal, 'she helped me out', so when the cock-a-mamie adds are shown they say, meh.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 02:21 AM (JS6jE)

346 339 This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 02:14 AM (yMCWt)

She seems nice.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:21 AM (6wpGE)

347 >> Like Graham, Collins probably has good constituent service.

Miss Lindsey, when he was anointed as Strom's successor, inherited Strom's impressive constituent services apparatus, which had been built up over many decades.

The joke was Strom and the others told Social Security, etc, etc to mess things up just so they could fix it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:23 AM (w6EFb)

348
This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog

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I'm pretty sure it's fake.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:23 AM (mmrXZ)

349 And yes there are some that are that stupid.
Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (bqIVz)

Trust me, I know. I live in Illinois. Despite Chicago getting worse, despite more and more taxes being raised or implemented, and despite the laws and benefits passed to support illegals and criminals, the voters in Chicago, Rockford, Springfield, Champaign-Urbana, East St. Louis, and Alexander and Union counties keep voting Democrat.

They are too dumb to change how they vote despite the suffering.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 19, 2026 02:24 AM (2F0/Y)

350 Oh, I saw this from last night, but it was too late:

"Wow, how can you not know that you're banking? I can see how you might not know that your nose is down, but it seems to me you would know that you're sliding left or right in your seat. Your coffee is spilling sideways."

In a banking turn, you roll, and let some of the lift on the wings give you the sideways force to turn. So you're leaned over relative to horizontal, but yet a force still pushing "up" relative to the floor of the plane.

Without visual cues, that will just feel like a steady force "down", and you think you're level.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:26 AM (w6EFb)

351 I think most people really want the country in good hands and our rights and Constitution protected. The one thing that concerns me the most is votes are legal and counted correctly
——-

That sounds reasonable, but they will still completely destroy the country with legal, counted correctly ballots. All anybody is doing now at best appears to be a delaying action.

“Democracy” is just two wolves and a sheep deciding on what’s for dinner.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 02:27 AM (LSh5J)

352 JQ, thanks for another evening of superior bar service, I am sleepy now. Sweet dreams Horde, your tab has been paid.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 02:27 AM (ibDUx)

353 348
This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog

================

I'm pretty sure it's fake.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:23 AM (mmrXZ)

@menshealthmag doesn't have it
I think you're right!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:28 AM (6wpGE)

354
The human vestibular system is well adapted to sensing the various motions and attitude changes one experiences on the ground under your own locomotion. It's not too good at that for motion in 3D space in the air.

In fact, it will lie to you, with disastrous results.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:29 AM (w6EFb)

355
Oh, I saw this from last night, but it was too late:

"Wow, how can you not know that you're banking? I can see how you might not know that your nose is down, but it seems to me you would know that you're sliding left or right in your seat. Your coffee is spilling sideways."

In a banking turn, you roll, and let some of the lift on the wings give you the sideways force to turn. So you're leaned over relative to horizontal, but yet a force still pushing "up" relative to the floor of the plane.

Without visual cues, that will just feel like a steady force "down", and you think you're level.
Posted by: publius

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Thanks, publius!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:29 AM (mmrXZ)

356 Well, 12:30 here, and I need to hit the sack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 02:31 AM (1z8ji)

357
@menshealthmag doesn't have it
I think you're right!
Posted by: m

================

It's accurate but fake. "He" and "his" boosters would consider this super representative of men's health.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:32 AM (mmrXZ)

358 'Night, Debby & AOP

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:33 AM (rdVOm)

359 also

menshealth.com

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:33 AM (6wpGE)

360
Right after JFK, Jr killed his fool self, and his wife and her two sisters, Rush Limbaugh told a story about that. One of his buddies that used to fly around with him a lot on EIB One, refused to believe he could lose his sense of up and down and all that. Just couldn't believe anyone could do the "controlled flight into terrain (or water)" thing.

Rush's pilot did a demonstration. He put the guy in the jumpseat in the cockpit. He let him look out the windshield. Ok, you see we're level right, clear sky. See the stars? Ok.

He then executed some maneuvers. Nothing too aggressive, just the kind the pilot knew well would be the ones that easily disrupt the vestibular system.

He then stopped the accelerations and turns and asked the guy, okay, what's our orientation and attitude?

Guy said we're in a climb, nose pointed up right at a star there.

Pilot said nope, we're in a slight dive, and headed straight toward the ocean. That star you see is the lights of a ship.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:37 AM (w6EFb)

361 It will take about 5-6 cranking sessions for about 5-10 seconds each and a lot of pumping the gas.
——-

Right, this is where a tablespoon of fresh gas down the carb avoids all that. Vroom!

Engine starters have a duty cycle, i think a 5
second crank is probably 15 minutes or something like that. I dislike abusing the battery, starter and relays, charging system …

When you hear people cranking over an engine for 30 second bursts over snd over, that fucker is toast. Not right away maybe. It burns all the winding insulation off the starter, road spray and salt does the rest. They core it at the auto parts store, who sends it off somewhere, and they don’t do shit to it except slap a coat of paint on it for the most part.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 02:38 AM (LSh5J)

362 360 Pilot said nope, we're in a slight dive, and headed straight toward the ocean. That star you see is the lights of a ship.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:37 AM (w6EFb)

wow
publius service announcement!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:39 AM (6wpGE)

363 “Democracy” is just two wolves and a sheep deciding on what’s for dinner.
Posted by: Common Tater

That's how Dad always explained it to us.

But that is too... I don't have the right word... simplistic?

Consider: One *million* to-- one million *plus one*. That's how bad it is.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:39 AM (rdVOm)

364 “Democracy” is just two wolves and a sheep deciding on what’s for dinner.
Posted by: Common Tater

That's how Dad always explained it to us.

But that is too... I don't have the right word... simplistic?

Consider: One *million* to-- one million *plus one*. That's how bad it is.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:39 AM (rdVOm)

Democrats don't even want Democracy. They want the appearance of it while the tiniest minority actually decides everything.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 02:41 AM (vE0+H)

365 Today's demonrats appear to want a communist oligarchy.

*raises both middle fingers*

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:46 AM (rdVOm)

366 >> wow

You've got to learn to trust your instruments and not your senses. During instrument training, they make the student pilot wear some blinder googles that obscures his view of the horizon, but allows him to see his instruments.

You learn to fly by those, and not depend on your vision.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:48 AM (w6EFb)

367
So, "flying blind" in a sense, is part of the training.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:50 AM (w6EFb)

368
Pilot said nope, we're in a slight dive, and headed straight toward the ocean. That star you see is the lights of a ship.

Posted by: publius

==============

And then he pulled the plane up, right? RIGHT?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 03:01 AM (mmrXZ)

369
Your vestibular system senses acceleration and changes in acceleration (jerk). Those little accelerometers in your inner ear are telling you which way down is. Move your head all around, and that direction changes. It tells your brain how your head (and body, via other inputs) is oriented relative to gravity.

Now, add other accelerations to that, and it gets a bit more complex but still the same principle.

You can also sense rotation, and that is a bit more complicated, and depends on sensing jerk, at least the directional change in acceleration. But it's only a temporary thing, that depends of the viscous nature of the fluid in your inner ears moving around and stimulating these little "hairs" on some cells.

Once that fluid equilibriates under steady rotation, which takes maybe 20 seconds, you lose that sense, and you're back to the pure linear acceleration sensing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:03 AM (w6EFb)

370 321 >>I’m only surprised Austin is not on this list.

It is. As is your town and mine.

A target list, yes. Not on the list you presented. Which again I find surprising.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 03:04 AM (An2iq)

371 314 Seem to recall a story about Grace Slick getting a visit at her home by the cops. She answered the door naked and holding a shotgun. Alcohol may have been involved.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 01:38 AM (v9vY1)

Yeah, she appears to have had a drinking problem. There's this gem from her wiki bio:

Jefferson Starship had to cancel the first performance night in Germany because she was too intoxicated to perform, causing the audience to riot. She performed the next night with the band but was so inebriated that she could not sing properly. She also attacked the audience, mocking Germany for losing World War II and groping both female audience members and bandmates.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 19, 2026 03:07 AM (2z+OF)

372
Close your eyes in say a swivel chair, and pick your feet up. Let someone rotate you. At first, you'll sense which way you're rotated, and pretty much how far. Yep, he turned me about 90 degrees to the left.

Now, get in a steady spin. After about 20 seconds, everything will settle in and catch up. You no longer sense any rotation, and you'll have no idea where you're pointed when you stop.

And when you stop, you'll be stumbling dizzy for another 20 seconds or better. Once you stop, that "jerk" system kicks in again, and your brain thinks it's rotating in the opposite direction. You're not, and that's why you're stumbling dizzy and can't maintain your balance.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:07 AM (w6EFb)

373 Restroom tokens are temporarily not required. We know some of you hit the nearby Taco Bell on your way in.

So the Barrel is no longer a token bathroom (in both senses of the word)?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 03:10 AM (l3cgK)

374 And then he pulled the plane up, right? RIGHT?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 03:01 AM (mmrXZ)

How is the other person going to learn

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 03:13 AM (vE0+H)

375 down a rabbit hole, now!

1999 Martha's Vineyard plane crash (Wikipedia)

The official investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) concluded that Kennedy fell victim to spatial disorientation while descending over water at night and lost control of his plane.

Kennedy did not hold an instrument rating and therefore he was only certified to fly under visual flight rules (VFR).

At the time of Kennedy's death, the weather and light conditions were such that all basic landmarks were obscured, making visual flight challenging, although legally still permissible.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:16 AM (6wpGE)

376
He was warned not to do it, too. Hell, a real experienced pilot even offered to ride along with him in case anything got out of hand. John John refused.

It was just stupid arrogance.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:21 AM (w6EFb)

377 I remember watching the nooz with Mom, after "John-john" crashed... ugh. Talk about a hagiography!

And I remember her rant, when the talking heads mentioned Camelot blahblahblah.

"Camelot, my ass! Bunch of johnny-come-lately, lace-curtain Irish, no closer to any throne than you and I!"

Love ya, Mom! RIP

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:23 AM (rdVOm)

378 35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)

Watching old concert videos on YT, I developed the hypothesis (probably not original) that the awesome music of the '70s was facilitated by the crappy drugs. Now, doing it like they did -- from the same kinds of connections -- would take you straight past an inspired altered mental state, directly to stupefaction (if not adulterated) or death (thanks, fentanyl).

Posted by: SciVo at July 19, 2026 03:24 AM (Sy6m/)

379 Rush really performed a public service by telling that flight story. Probably saved lives.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:24 AM (6wpGE)

380 Tons of details at the Wikipedia page on the flight. All of them bad.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:26 AM (6wpGE)

381
He got into a classic graveyard spiral. That's a slight banking turn. Because of all that vestibular stuff I was going on about above, "John-John" thought he was flying level. No, he was in a banking turn. His instruments would've told him that, if the fool knew what he was looking at.

In the banking turn, you're falling a little bit, losing altitude, because your wings are rolled, and some of the lift is turning you. His trajectory was a helical path, slowing spiraling into the drink. Going around in circles, while descending.

At some point, he probably realized he was loosing altitude. Don't know if the plane had any alarm about that or not. Now, he thought we flying level, so losing altitude means "pull your nose up".

Do that in that banking turn, and you just tighten the turn, increasing the descent rate. Panicking, you pull back the stick even more, and start pulling high g's and totally lose all senses and hit the drink at high speed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:29 AM (w6EFb)

382 Biden's Dog I bet that James Talerico has that magazine cover framed and hanging in his bedroom ~~above the shelf holding his stuffed animal collection~~ on the ceiling.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 02:17 AM (ibDUx)
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FIFY

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 03:31 AM (74zY1)

383 This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog

================

I'm pretty sure it's fake.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:23 AM (mmrXZ)
-

I should have known better. Fake. But this is real - from Grok:

The featured cover is fake, but it references a real Australian Men's Health article titled "Elliot Page’s Washboard Abs Are A Major Moment," which discusses Page's recent shirtless photos and boxing training.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 03:33 AM (74zY1)

384 It's (supposedly) a free country...

Ellen is free to pretend she's a man, and call herself "Elliot."

I am free to not entertain her delusion.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:37 AM (rdVOm)

385
I remember watching the nooz with Mom, after "John-john" crashed... ugh. Talk about a hagiography!

Love ya, Mom! RIP
Posted by: JQ

===============

I bet you and your mom loved President Clinton's (at the time) decision to send -- who was it, the damned Air Force? -- to look for his plane because the Kennedy family had done so much more for America than other families and their service to America was so exceptional and their family was so much better than yours.

RIP mom!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 03:37 AM (mmrXZ)

386 He was warned not to do it, too. Hell, a real experienced pilot even offered to ride along with him in case anything got out of hand. John John refused.

It was just stupid arrogance.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:21 AM (w6EFb)

..and he went into the water like a frigging dart.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:38 AM (S41Gd)

387 Yes, Blondie (Hi!)

Mom was *livid* that junior was sofa king special that we wasted military resources for his privileged little CIVILIAN ass.

I was merely disgusted.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:41 AM (rdVOm)

388 It's (supposedly) a free country...

Ellen is free to pretend she's a man, and call herself "Elliot."

I am free to not entertain her delusion.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:37 AM (rdVOm)

Exactly. I'll call her a man when she calls me System Lord. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:41 AM (S41Gd)

389 Mom was *livid* that junior was sofa king special that we wasted military resources for his privileged little CIVILIAN ass.

I was merely disgusted.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:41 AM (rdVOm)

Did they find his silly ass, or is he somewhere in davy jones locker?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:43 AM (S41Gd)

390 Did they find his silly ass, or is he somewhere in davy jones locker?
Posted by: Berserker

*shrugs*

I think so. Not sure. Didn't give a rat's ass about it.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:45 AM (rdVOm)

391 Wikipedia

On the afternoon of July 21, divers reportedly found the Bessette sisters' bodies near the fuselage; Kennedy's body was still strapped into his seat.

However, Coast Guard Admiral Richard M. Larrabee said that all three bodies were "near and under" the fuselage, still strapped in.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:47 AM (6wpGE)

392 Junior was a chip off his uncle's block, eh?

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:51 AM (rdVOm)

393 >> Did they find his silly ass, or is he somewhere in davy jones locker?

The official story is all three bodies were recovered. But there was likely some monkey-business about the details.

John-john's body was severed in two, at the torso. His wife was scalped, according to some of the leaked stuff. The sister may have been thrown out of the plane on impact.

The mother of the the wife and sister was intimidated into the cremation and scattering the ashes at sea. She didn't want to do that. She did sue for wrongful death and there was some undisclosed settlement.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:51 AM (w6EFb)

394 I get crazy dreams once in a great while that I have a plane, I take off, can fly it, but don't know how to land it. I flew one once, it was pretty cool, but the owner did the take off and landing. Sometimes the dreams get funny. The plane will be basket case like an old harley, or a barn find, and I just patch it up and hit the wild blue yonder and think WTF am I doing? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:55 AM (S41Gd)

395 Need some music....

youtu.be/7xxgRUyzgs0

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:56 AM (rdVOm)

396 John-john's body was severed in two, at the torso. His wife was scalped, according to some of the leaked stuff.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:51 AM (w6EFb)

Where the hell did he land, Little Bighorn? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:58 AM (S41Gd)

397
It was just stupid arrogance.

Posted by: publius

=============

Another story. You never know, but they say: wifey was a very difficult case. All the time. Just sour and manipulative as hell. On the wedding night, she kept delaying the flight because whatever, she wanted to get her toenails painted just so, and John-John kept saying They had to get out of there, he was losing his light. Her: goes to the window to make sure her manicure is exactly what she wants.

So they took off a couple hours later than he wanted and she got them all killed.

Probably hit the water so hard that death was instant.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 04:02 AM (mmrXZ)

398 The second guy, who is still alive, is the more interesting one.

He was in Ukraine, and claims he was recruiting mercs. The other people recruiting mercs say he's lying and I think they are likely telling the truth.

So...he was working for an intelligence agency. In a same world they've have water boarded him daily until he gave up his handler.
Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at July 18, 2026 11:06 PM (sKqQm)

What few things I've heard raise more questions than they answer. So he's some kind of handyman, but he's flying all over the world? He's from the Carolinas (IIRC), where he's racking up tickets for driving illegally, but without losing his vehicle or going to jail? And he's not from Hawaii, but he's living there and making his own NGO to pay himself to build big boxes for the beach homeless, and he wrote a book on international relations and went to Ukraine somehow?

Shades of Mandelay Bay. How do you make a small pile of money on video poker? By starting with a large pile of money. So where did Stephen Paddock get the money that he was laundering? They never told.

Posted by: SciVo at July 19, 2026 04:11 AM (Sy6m/)

399
They were both pieces of work, from what I've read. Here's one I remembered from the Daily Mail:

https://t.ly/J5TBm

That was a few months before they were married.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:12 AM (w6EFb)

400 400

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:12 AM (6wpGE)

401 https://t.ly/J5TBm

That was a few months before they were married.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:12 AM

Thanks anyway, publius, but DM got all uppity and put stuff behind a paywall.

That's ok. RIP Kennedy spawn (and wife and Sis in law.)

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 04:16 AM (rdVOm)

402 401 https://t.ly/J5TBm

That was a few months before they were married.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:12 AM

Thanks anyway, publius, but DM got all uppity and put stuff behind a paywall.

That's ok. RIP Kennedy spawn (and wife and Sis in law.)
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 04:16 AM (rdVOm)

https://archive.is/UH0GS

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:18 AM (6wpGE)

403
Oh, sorry, that's the "plus" thing. While I wouldn't otherwise admit, I subscribed to it. For my mother. She loves to read that stuff, which surprised me, but at her age, she can read what she wants.

Anyway, that was some famous photos of John-John and the soon to be wife in some explosive argument in a park. He almost hit her, and ripped the engagement ring off her finger.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:19 AM (w6EFb)

404 "This site can’t be reached
The webpage at https://archive.is/UH0GS might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address."

Thanks anyway, m.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 04:19 AM (rdVOm)

405 Welp, it's time for bed anyway...

Good night, horde. Thanks for an interesting chat!

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 04:21 AM (rdVOm)

406
That's honestly for my mother. I just thought of a neighbor who'd watch a lot of the "judge shows" and other trashy TV. He'd always blame his wife for watching that. "She had it on" he'd say, when he would tell whatever happened.

As she later told us, no she didn't watch that crap, and he was the one who actually "had it on" all the time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:34 AM (w6EFb)

407 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:35 AM (6wpGE)

Music Thread: End Of Bin Cleanup

My apologies for bringing the real world into this thread, but this made me laugh, and it is excellent on so many levels. Not least of which is poking marvelous fun at the Woke bullsh*t that oozes out of so many organizations that are designed for non-political pursuits.

Anyway, behind the graphic is a great American Rock And Roll song. Even Duncanthrax will like it...I think.

***
Love them or hate them; The Rolling Stones are an amazingly impressive band. They have been successful for more than 60 years, have made a ton of money, didn't implode because of "creative differences," and at least one of them is immortal, which is sort of cool in a scary way.

She's A Rainbow is a bit different for them (at least to my ear), although one of the reasons for their success has been their openness to changing their music to suit the fashion of the time. "Some Girls," I'm looking at you!

***
Carl Perkins' version of Blue Suede Shoes is far better than the more popular Elvis Presley version.

Fight Me!

***
Is Watermelon In Easter Hay good Zappa? Bad Zappa? Weird Zappa? Mainstream Pop Zappa? I have no idea...maybe Misanthropic Humanitarian can tell us!
***
The Band is a great rock band, and here is proof of that: Atlantic City, with the additional delicious reality that Springsteen sucks in comparison. His version of this song is sh*t compared to The Band's original.
***
Merle Haggard! Hey...I like country music. The Fightin' Side Of Me
***

Posted by: CBD at 07:30 PM

Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 When you’re running down the King, man, you’re gettin’ on the fightin’ side of me.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:34 PM (sk9DV)

2 What, no Bay City Rollers?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:35 PM (zZu0s)

3 Since I have your attention, I strongly recommend Mark Steyn’s weekly On the Town, at 12 Eastern on Serenade Radio on Saturdays. Fascinating bits about music and musicians.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:37 PM (sk9DV)

4 What, no Bay City Rollers?

Roxy!

Posted by: Nick Gilder at July 18, 2026 07:38 PM (sk9DV)

5 Martyn is funny

Posted by: what the cat drug in at July 18, 2026 07:39 PM (jrgJz)

6 "The governing body has set out a plan to improve inclusivity."

Not many black dudes in metal bands, either.

https://youtu.be/2sx8Yt-tAlU

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 07:42 PM (VHUov)

7 Ella Langley

youtu.be/9D-uBr4Y9T0

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:45 PM (jrKun)

8 Is this music only ??

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 07:47 PM (diia5)

9 Thanks for linking "Watermelon in Easter Hay", a new one to me. I'd call it "resplendent, transcendent Zappa"; it's more prog rock than jazz to my ears.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 07:47 PM (kpS4V)

10 Lotta St. Joan doing a cover of a Townes Van Zandt song. Kind of stumbled into her on YTube. I have no idea who she is other than she's from Germany.

youtu.be/Z1jIY9fMKTE

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:47 PM (jrKun)

11 I thought this was a movie review night. Oh well.

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 07:48 PM (lJ0H4)

12 Is this music only ??

If you can abide it, let the hurdy-gurdy play.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:49 PM (sk9DV)

13 Is this music only ??
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Political opinions must be expressed in non-Queensrÿche lyrics.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 07:49 PM (VHUov)

14 At the risk of inflaming CBD's temper -- it takes so little -- has anybody seen Nolan's "Odyssey"?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 07:50 PM (kpS4V)

15 Cole Chaney - The Big Empty
youtu.be/3eFKTmwzVcU

An Appalachian cover of the STP classic.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:50 PM (jrKun)

16 Political opinions must be expressed in non-Queensrÿche lyrics.
Posted by: mikeski

Harsh, but fair.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 07:50 PM (diia5)

17 Anyway, Tate Brothers arrested in Miami, and...

@disclosetv 8m
UPDATE - UK's Crown Prosecution Service says they are prosecuting the Tate brothers for additional alleged offenses dating from 2010-2017, and will seek extradition to the UK.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 07:51 PM (diia5)

18 Political opinions must be expressed in non-Queensrÿche lyrics.
Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 07:49 PM (VHUov)

We've never gotten a ruling on Tears for Fears (or better covers.)

https://youtu.be/MM0BiOjd3hs

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

19 At the risk of inflaming CBD's temper -- it takes so little -- has anybody seen Nolan's "Odyssey"?

I have been tempted to rewatch Ulysses 31.

(I also heard there was a very good Odyssey out of Italy in 1968.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:53 PM (sk9DV)

20 I thought Tate went down in flames after he lost that boxing match?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:53 PM (zZu0s)

21 Some random girl in Applachia meadow, with her banjo.

Murphy Cambpell - Swannanoa Town

youtu.be/1vT8hN_2yx0

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:53 PM (jrKun)

22 I have been tempted to rewatch Ulysses 31.

(I also heard there was a very good Odyssey out of Italy in 1968.)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:53 PM (sk9DV)

Armand Assante from the ... early 90s?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:54 PM (zZu0s)

23 Off to the land of very bad music soon…

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:54 PM (4g5V+)

24 What I was listening to while driving into work.

youtu.be/lvBOZCrJsAI

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:54 PM (jrKun)

25 Armand Assante from the ... early 90s?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:54 PM (zZu0s)

That one was from 1997 and from the reviews I am seeing is infinitely better than the crap Mr, Nolan has served up.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (4g5V+)

26 I have been tempted to rewatch Ulysses 31.

(I also heard there was a very good Odyssey out of Italy in 1968.)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

Watch last year's "The Return" with Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche.

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (lJ0H4)

27 Armand Assante from the ... early 90s?

No, never heard of that one. With Isabella Rossellini and Christopher Lee it has to be worth watching. With Bernadette Peters it has to be bad.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (sk9DV)

28 The Stones were “sloppy” but they had been playing so long together it was a precision sloppiness. I’m sure if a cover band tried to get sloppy they couldn’t do it

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (UHbyc)

29 Is Watermelon In Easter Hay good Zappa? Bad Zappa? Weird Zappa? Mainstream Pop Zappa?

Good. Not weird. Not mainstream, nor pop, but probably "accessible."

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 07:56 PM (VHUov)

30 At the risk of inflaming CBD's temper -- it takes so little -- has anybody seen Nolan's "Odyssey"?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 07:50 PM (kpS4V)
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Nope.

But I did watch a YouTube video about how The Odyssey has influenced science fiction.

Once you know that, you can't unsee it in a wide variety of science fiction stories.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 07:56 PM (FZ29D)

31 A bit too maudlin on that last.

Al Hirt

https://youtu.be/fqwIpH6phJs

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:57 PM (zZu0s)

32 Hiked 10 miles round trip on a section of the Caprock Canyons Trailway. After which I listened to Black Label Society’s “Death March”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:57 PM (4g5V+)

33 That one was from 1997 and from the reviews I am seeing is infinitely better than the crap Mr, Nolan has served up.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (4g5V+)

I saw it when it aired. Liked it. Armand Assante always came off a bit to sweaty/greasy to me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:58 PM (zZu0s)

34 27 Armand Assante from the ... early 90s?

No, never heard of that one. With Isabella Rossellini and Christopher Lee it has to be worth watching. With Bernadette Peters it has to be bad.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (sk9DV)

I thought Bernadette Peters did quite well as Circe.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:59 PM (4g5V+)

35 Vanessa Williams was in it as well playing... Calypso?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:59 PM (zZu0s)

36 Once you know that, you can't unsee it in a wide variety of science fiction stories.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 07:56 PM (FZ29D)

Anabasis by Xenophon is one i would like to see done well. But it is the basis for voyager (badly) or Battlestar Galactica when you think about it as well as a lot of isekai stories of military companies. Harry Turtledove did several.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:01 PM (zZu0s)

37 33 That one was from 1997 and from the reviews I am seeing is infinitely better than the crap Mr, Nolan has served up.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (4g5V+)

I saw it when it aired. Liked it. Armand Assante always came off a bit to sweaty/greasy to me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:58 PM (zZu0s)

How long ago was this? One of my friends taped it (!) A bunch of us met at his place and binged watched the whole thing in a setting late one evening over beer, all of us having read and loved The Odyssey.

It was an NBC 2 part miniseries.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:01 PM (4g5V+)

38 I generally like tango but don't speak tango so often I don't know what they’re warbling and kicking up their heals about. Among the tangos I especially like is Por una Cabeza, a song frequently heard in the movie as here from Scent of a Woman.

https://tinyurl.com/4ypkd2kp

I happened across a YT with the lyrics translated and now have a reasonable guess as to what the song is about. The title is a horse racing term meaning a close race, by a head. The song, I think, analogies love to betting on the ponies. You pays your money and you takes your chances often times not making it across the finish line.

https://tinyurl.com/3yk699ra

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:02 PM (ndZc7)

39 Musically, I recommend Symphony X “The Odyssey”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:03 PM (4g5V+)

40 "Is Watermelon In Easter Hay good Zappa? Bad Zappa? Weird Zappa? Mainstream Pop Zappa? I have no idea."

Not really. I don't know why music critics latch on to that song. There is so much Zappa that is better. Probably because music critics don't know shit about music.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:04 PM (MWfyi)

41 I thought Bernadette Peters did quite well "

Yep...

Oh, you meant acting?

Posted by: man at July 18, 2026 08:06 PM (cGjQu)

42 Listening to "Three Preludes" by George Gershwin played on mandolins.

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 08:08 PM (lJ0H4)

43 "Thanks for linking "Watermelon in Easter Hay", a new one to me. I'd call it "resplendent, transcendent Zappa"; it's more prog rock than jazz to my ears.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes"

It's at the end of the 3 album "Joe's Garage", after Joe gets out of prison for destroying a sexbot and becomes resigned to a world without music.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:09 PM (MWfyi)

44 At end of the Odyssey, he proves to Penelope that it's really him by shooting an arrow through a row of axeheads. Is that just a little Freudian?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:10 PM (ndZc7)

45 Sailboat racing and rock n roll? My cupeth runeth overeth.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (viF8m)

46 At end of the Odyssey, he proves to Penelope that it's really him by shooting an arrow through a row of axeheads. Is that just a little Freudian?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:10 PM (ndZc7)

The only man who can string my bow and hit the target.

Posted by: Penelope at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (zZu0s)

47 I have never been a fan of the Rolling Stones, but Keith Richards and Mick Jagger seem pretty cool.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (0aYVJ)

48 Wow, I love Joe's Garage Parts I and II, but didn't recognize that cut.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 08:12 PM (kpS4V)

49 Pot roast roasted. A leetle heavy on the salt, but it was thoroughly potted.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 08:14 PM (diia5)

50 Listening to SRV and Johnny Lang.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 08:15 PM (abScH)

51 What, no Bay City Rollers?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:35 PM (zZu0s)

The nice lady who played Charlie's mum in "So I Married an Axe Murderer" passed away. Brenda Fricker. I loved how she kept hitting on Anthony LaPaglia.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:15 PM (0aYVJ)

52 The title was supposedly from Zappa saying "Playing a guitar solo with this band is like trying to grow a watermelon in Easter hay".

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:16 PM (MWfyi)

53 I have never been a fan of the Rolling Stones, but Keith Richards and Mick Jagger seem pretty cool.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (0aYVJ)

Then I saw this.

https://youtu.be/BHkhIjG0DKc

Verdict: thats gayer than 10 guys blowing 12 guys on top of Liberace's piano.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:17 PM (zZu0s)

54 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 08:18 PM (Ia/+0)

55 I like "Black Napkins" better than "Watermelon" but what do I know I'm no music critic.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:18 PM (MWfyi)

56 Thx CBD
The Stones when they toured in 2022 played "Out of Time" live for the first time. One of my favorite songs of theirs.
Saw them twice , both times a blast

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:19 PM (OXYE0)

57 Atlantic City was a Springsteen original. If the Band did it, they were covering him, not the other way around.

Posted by: tsj017 at July 18, 2026 08:19 PM (xakWh)

58 After listening to a podcast on my phone all the way to Lancaster it shut off mobile data until I got home and picked up WiFi

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 08:20 PM (Ia/+0)

59 Great post

Posted by: LASue at July 18, 2026 08:20 PM (lCppi)

60 This Merle Haggard was a staple of Dead shows in the early 70s.

https://tinyurl.com/22as9dmy

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:21 PM (viF8m)

61 >https://youtu.be/BHkhIjG0DKc

Verdict: thats gayer than 10 guys blowing 12 guys on top of Liberace's piano.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:17 PM (zZu0s)

Classic. I don't care who you are, that's just hysterically funny.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:23 PM (GTqXr)

62 The 1979 film The Warriors is based on a novel that was a retelling of The Anabasis.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 08:23 PM (D7w1V)

63 Some random girl in Applachia meadow, with her banjo.

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You said the magic word, "Appalachia", which allows me to post this even though it's not in Appalachia, in LA I think, but looks like it should be in Appalachia in a trailer house converted into a church. Watch these ladies flop around like fish after meeting self-described female "apostle". Yeah, it's apparently a SpongeBob service because these AWFLs are so overcome by meeting the Apostle they fall on the floor and flop like a fish.

https://tinyurl.com/4zz8jh7e

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:23 PM (ndZc7)

64 Anyway, that stuff is ancient history. As far as new stuff goes, Angine de Poitrine has my attention. Once you get past the polkadots you can't look away.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:23 PM (MWfyi)

65 Then I saw this.

https://youtu.be/BHkhIjG0DKc

Verdict: thats gayer than 10 guys blowing 12 guys on top of Liberace's piano.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:17 PM (zZu0s)
----
Somehow, the Official Version in 4K is even gayer than the video you linked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opRRax4ph3E

Also one of the most 80s videos ever produced.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 08:24 PM (FZ29D)

66 Huh. Today is the anniversary of Ted Kennedy killing Mary Jo Kopecne and walking away scot free.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:25 PM (zZu0s)

67 41 I thought Bernadette Peters did quite well "

Yep...

Oh, you meant acting?
Posted by: man at July 18, 2026 08:06 PM (cGjQu)

Why, yes. : )

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:26 PM (4g5V+)

68 The Yankees baseball game is Postponed due to.................. OMG

"Canadian GLOBAL WARMING Forest Fires" !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 18, 2026 08:26 PM (6K4H4)

69
I like "Black Napkins" better than "Watermelon" but what do I know I'm no music critic.
Posted by: fd

I like Waka Jawaka better than Watermelon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 08:27 PM (Cqx++)

70 The Band covered Atlantic City on their album Jericho from the early 90s.
Agreed CBD, its way better than the original

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:27 PM (OXYE0)

71 If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:

youtu.be/0Ssi-9wS1so?

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:28 PM (MWfyi)

72 I like that Stones album. It came out when I was in high school.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 08:29 PM (Cqx++)

73 50 Listening to SRV and Johnny Lang.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 08:15 PM (abScH)

On the way to see Rush we had to stop by the grave of SRV at Laurel Land cemetery in Dallas.

(And later on, in Arlington, to visit the Abbott brothers Moore Memorial Cemetery.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:29 PM (4g5V+)

74 "I like Waka Jawaka better than Watermelon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. "

It's like the critics have never heard any Zappa but Watermelon and Jazz From Hell.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:30 PM (MWfyi)

75 Is Stan Laurel buried in Laurel Land?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 08:31 PM (Cqx++)

76 >>The Band covered Atlantic City on their album Jericho from the early 90s.
Agreed CBD, its way better than the original

A thread about covers would be fun. So many covers I like even better than the originals.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:31 PM (viF8m)

77 71 If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:

youtu.be/0Ssi-9wS1so?
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:28 PM (MWfyi)

Very interesting dudes. I first heard of them three months or so ago.

A “news story” by CBC (or was it CTV) identified them as French. They are from Quebec. Dumbasses.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:31 PM (4g5V+)

78 Anyway, behind the graphic is a great American Rock And Roll song. Even Duncanthrax will like it...I think.

Well, since Duncanthrax is the one who points out, semi-consistently, that CBD declared The Beach Boys the world's greatest band, a declaration that Duncanthrax completely, totally, and 100% concurs with, I believe that the probability that Duncanthrax likes it is at least (unity - epsilon), if not higher.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (0sNs1)

79 Never was a big Rolling Stones fan, but “She’s a Rainbow” was always one of my favorites.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (l+3gx)

80 fd, did you find this group while sober ?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (abScH)

81 This came to me recently and I wrote it up. I guess this is a place to drop it: Hallucinating relationships

🎶Her voice was soft and cool
Her eyes were clear and bright
But she's not there
https://youtu.be/HN6sJBNaPXw

What were they smoking?

🎶I'll run to tenderly hold you
But darling, you won't be there
https://youtu.be/lecXDjlsA4E

Seems t'me I had thought of a third example, but forgot it before writing it down. As one does. Oh, what was that song - something something of you and me…

🎶Through the mirror of my mind
Time after time, I see reflections of you and me
Reflections of the way life used to be
https://youtu.be/8Nlbj1t99m8

No, no, that wasn't it…

Posted by: mindful webworker - the meandering mind ponders, and having pondered, dozes off at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (p+5Bi)

82 >Carl Perkins' version of Blue Suede Shoes is far better than the more popular Elvis Presley version.
----

because Carl wrote it

Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (ZxPkt)

83 One may point out, and someone likely will, that Duncanthrax agrees with CBD almost all the time, however.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:34 PM (0sNs1)

84 And if you like Angine de Poitrine, you will LOVE Meshuggah.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:34 PM (4g5V+)

85 >>One may point out, and someone likely will, that Duncanthrax agrees with CBD almost all the time, however.

Get a room.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:35 PM (viF8m)

86 Sloop John B (Remastered)
The Beach Boys

I knew the song, sorta. Never really paid attention to the lyrics before. Imagine my surprise as MiladyJo started singing along.

Her eldest brother (RIP) had a thing for sea stories, she says. Navy guy.

Posted by: mindful webworker - land-locked landlubber at July 18, 2026 08:35 PM (p+5Bi)

87 83 One may point out, and someone likely will, that Duncanthrax agrees with CBD almost all the time, however.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:34 PM (0sNs1)

Cow Demon would like to point out that Duncanthrax likes to refer to himself in the third person. But Cow Demon sees nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:36 PM (4g5V+)

88 Here's a weird thing. I have seen Tom Waits in *numerous* movies, such as The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, but I have never heard his music.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:36 PM (0aYVJ)

89 That The Beach Boys recorded Sloop John B was due entirely to the persuasive influence of Al Jardine, who was the composer of several of The Beach Boys best songs, including California Saga Pt. 3 and Lady Lynda.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:37 PM (0sNs1)

90 "fd, did you find this group while sober ?
Posted by: Ben Had"

I can't remember but they are fascinating to me. The drummer is right on despite his ridiculous outfit, and the white polkadot guy is using microtonal guitars to go somewhere new.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:38 PM (MWfyi)

91 I’ll never leave your Pizza burning… is my favorite Stones tune, probably. There are better tunes maybe but it has memories that go with it

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:38 PM (WcNzu)

92

https://tinyurl.com/22as9dmy

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:21 PM (viF8m)

Not really a fan of country music but I like some Dwight Yoakam.
https://youtu.be/_GjY5rHQZ14?si=g1j1p49VUDXWtO1e

Great cover of the Blasters original.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:39 PM (GTqXr)

93 >>Here's a weird thing. I have seen Tom Waits in *numerous* movies, such as The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, but I have never heard his music.

You have but might have heard him sing them.

Lickity splicly is and underused term.

https://tinyurl.com/mha9cjkx

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:40 PM (viF8m)

94 >If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:

youtu.be/0Ssi-9wS1so?

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:28 PM (MWfyi)

The anti-White Stripes?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:41 PM (GTqXr)

95 Cow Demon would like to point out that Duncanthrax likes to refer to himself in the third person. But Cow Demon sees nothing wrong with that.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:36 PM

Duncanthrax would like to point out that this is, in fact, the first time that Duncanthrax has referred to Duncanthrax in the third person.

Duncanthrax would like to further point out that he is not putting on aires by using "The" in front of his name, unlike, say, The Paolo or The Bob Dole.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:41 PM (0sNs1)

96 I linked the studio version of "Rasa" last Music Thread, as one of the better things the YouTube Algorithm has pointed me to.

I guess this is a "live in the studio" version, since there's no audience (except the camera crew).

Ms. Svedberg isn't just a studio voice; this is about 95% of what she's got on the album. (album? EP? They've only released 5 songs.)

https://youtu.be/gMQBaCUxoy8

And the other two songs from the same session:
https://youtu.be/2wak338RrKA
https://youtu.be/9GzLHxhejSI

I hope she's got a good vocal coach. Or she's gonna burn her voice out singing from the ~~diaphragm~~ soles of her feet like that all the time.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 08:41 PM (VHUov)

97 Tom Waits is a man acquired taste but anyone who can come up with the lyric:
The owner is a mental midget
With the IQ of a fence post

Is a talent. His "Downtown Train" is brilliant

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:42 PM (OXYE0)

98 To be fair, Cow Demon is not referring to himself as The Cow Demon, either.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:42 PM (0sNs1)

99 >The anti-White Stripes?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:41 PM (GTqXr)

And nice use of a loop pedal.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:43 PM (GTqXr)

100 "The anti-White Stripes?
Posted by: Heavy Meta"

You may have spotted the joke.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:43 PM (MWfyi)

101 Duncanthrax would like to further point out that he is not putting on aires by using "The" in front of his name, unlike, say, The Paolo or The Bob Dole.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

mikeski is kind of bummed that the rules about acknowledging your political advertisements landed one campaign too late, so we never got to hear the TV say "Bob Dole is Bob Dole, and Bob Dole approves this message."

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 08:43 PM (VHUov)

102 I still own Some Girls, and it still kicks..but what I remember that is hilarious now is that the general take at the time was that it was amazing the Stones could still rock at their advanced age..they were in their mid 30s lol

Posted by: Azjaeger at July 18, 2026 08:44 PM (3/XaG)

103 >You may have spotted the joke.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:43 PM (MWfyi)

I'm only one Scotch in.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:44 PM (GTqXr)

104 Jack White looks like Sigourney Weaver's retarded baby brother.
No disrespect to Ms. Weaver. I like her.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:44 PM (0aYVJ)

105 The only man who can string my bow and hit the target.
Posted by: Penelope at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (zZu0s)

Ring my be-e-ell, ring my bell!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 08:45 PM (l+3gx)

106 And nice use of a loop pedal.
Posted by: Heavy Meta

I'll be the judge of that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 08:46 PM (diia5)

107 >If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:

youtu.be/0Ssi-9wS1so?

-
Well, she's no Leningrad Cowboys.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (ndZc7)

108 Love the Beach Boys, and Sloop John B is a wonderful song, but it got me thinking. Are they really what you think of as a Rock and Roll band? Some stuff, yes. Some stuff, IDK. They're almost in their own category, given Brian Wilson's idiosyncratic abilities.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (QaH55)

109 >>Not really a fan of country music but I like some Dwight Yoakam.

I'm not very knowledgeable about country but a lot of bands I do like cover country songs and I've come to really like some of it.

I like a pretty diverse collection of music. About the only stuff I have no time for is rap. Cause most of it isn't music.

If you've never been to a blue grass music festival on a summer day in some random cornfield you are missing some great stuff. And the influence that music has on a lot of rock is obvious when you hear it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (viF8m)

110 @102 I was in college in the early eighties. One of my house mates was a Jewish kid from Long Island who said " I have a tough time picturing my father playing bass for the Stones. " His dad was the same age as Wyman

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (OXYE0)

111 Speaking of Rolling Stones songs that are a bit different, Heaven is a good example. Originally recorded for the Emotional Rescue album, it didn't make the cut. It was later included on the Tattoo You album.

Although Keith Richards got a song writing credit (along with Jagger), Richards was not involved in the recording.

The song was also used in the movie Vanilla Sky.

The Rolling Stones - Heaven
https://youtu.be/UxYU_r4Aluc

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (syz1S)

112 Oldie but goodie. Song by Lobo in 1971.

Song about a guy and his girl traveling across America.
"Me and you and a dog named Boo" An easy listening song that was good driving music back in the day.
"How I love being a free man." is a good line in the song.

I can't believe that song came out 55 years ago.
I guess time does keep on slipping into the future.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 08:50 PM (bqIVz)

113 the Stones could still rock at their advanced age..they were in their mid 30s lol
Posted by: Azjaeger at July 18, 2026 08:44 PM (3/XaG)

I recall an early Bloom County where the Stones were scheduled to play at a festival, and Bobbi (the teacher) shouts "Oh my God", and Milo says, "Right? These shmoes look almost 40."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:50 PM (0aYVJ)

114
94 >If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:”

Doesn’t that mean the Anguish of Canadian French fries?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 08:50 PM (l+3gx)

115 Would a pole dancer gyrating with a fan blowing on her be performing Air on a G-String?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:51 PM (0sNs1)

116 I’ll never leave your Pizza burning…

-
Meet the “Abolish Rent” Ideologue Teaching DSA Tenant Organizers How to Wage War on Landlords Tracy Rosenthal . . . Rosenthal says tenants pay rent “at the barrel of a gun,”

-
Now do pizza!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:51 PM (ndZc7)

117 The incomparable Bill Withers.

https://tinyurl.com/2afbcxen

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:52 PM (viF8m)

118 One of the commenters on the Angine vid said "I just fired my therapist"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:52 PM (OXYE0)

119 Here's a weird thing. I have seen Tom Waits in *numerous* movies, such as The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, but I have never heard his music.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:36 PM (0aYVJ)

Bone Machine is a haunting album. It is full of active contradictions. It is worth listening to at least once. It may draw you back in.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 08:53 PM (rbvCR)

120 OK... too good not to share...

Helen of Troy should not look like Helen DeTroit.

/rimshot

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 08:53 PM (mP0Kj)

121
The Stones album with "She's a Rainbow", His Satanic Majesty's Request, isn't a particularly good album, but it does have two great songs on it.

"She's a Rainbow", of course, and-

"2000 Light Years From Home"

https://tinyurl.com/mw3rtvzc

HSMR is a bit of a Sgt Pepper's ripoff back when the Stones and the Beatles were competing to see just who was the most far-out and hip and psychedelic.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2026 08:53 PM (iJfKG)

122 Della, and the dealer, and a dog named Jake, and a cat named Kalamazoo, left the city in a pickup truck, gonna make their dreams come true

If that cat could talk, what tales he'd tell about Della and the dealer and the dog as well, but the cat was cool, and he never said a mumbling word.

Hoyt Axton was a treasure

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:54 PM (0aYVJ)

123 Huh. Today is the anniversary of Ted Kennedy killing Mary Jo Kopecne and walking away scot free.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Keeping it on-topic.....

https://youtu.be/fnFoxHIUIt4
https://youtu.be/JbQFMkTINTY
https://youtu.be/doWTE0aaIjM

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 08:54 PM (VHUov)

124 Beach Boys were in a pretty weird spot by the late 1960s and just weren’t considered cool any longer. Brian wigged out and became a recluse and they couldn’t put together albums that would sell.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:55 PM (WcNzu)

125 >I like a pretty diverse collection of music. About the only stuff I have no time for is rap. Cause most of it isn't music.

--

I do as well - I have very eclectic tastes. I categorize old school hip hop as its own genre - but I'm much too old and much to white to appreciate 'rap'. I can respect the brothas throwin' down rhymes, but I don't have the context to understand, let alone like it. Most of what I've heard is banal grunting over a heavy bass track.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:55 PM (GTqXr)

126 I saw the RS on 1975, at Cleveland Municipal Stadium, and I though they were old back then …

They’re the ultimate musical cockroaches

Posted by: browndog painting it black at July 18, 2026 08:56 PM (TTAGa)

127 Keith described “Sergeant pepper” album as “rubbish” and he wasn’t too far off.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:57 PM (WcNzu)

128 Recognized as one of the best songs to ever come out of New Zealand. Which is kinda sad.

Still, fun and the large blond dancing girls are nice.

https://tinyurl.com/yw7yphb8

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:58 PM (viF8m)

129 Over at Steve Hoffman’s music site, there’s a 6 page thread discussing who played the drums at the end of “Dear Prudence”, a Beatles tune. They are just nuts. “That’s George on take 12 blowing his nose!”

Jeeze Louise.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 09:00 PM (WcNzu)

130
Speaking of music in movies...

There's a great little, low budget multiverse thriller
titled-

"Redux Redux" currently streaming on Hulu.

It got justifiably good reviews and concerns a woman traveling across the multiverse, hunting down versions of the main who killed her daughter and killing them...hijinks ensue.

Well worth your time.

But the music part comes in at the very beginning with the credits and title.

It a very odd, heavy, almost oppressive piece of music that drew me right in even before the movie started.

I'd love to get a recording of it.

Anyway, check out the movie - great script, acting, and directing - and you'll her a very cool piece of music.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2026 09:02 PM (iJfKG)

131 I'm going to string a hot wire around my lawn.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:02 PM (abScH)

132 Beach Boys were in a pretty weird spot by the late 1960s and just weren’t considered cool any longer. Brian wigged out and became a recluse and they couldn’t put together albums that would sell.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:55 PM

I would say that's not incorrect, but also incomplete. The Beach Boys and The Beatles had a significant creative rivalry. Paul McCartney called "God Only Knows" the greatest song ever written.

The Beatles’ Rubber Soul inspired Brian Wilson to write Pet Sounds, which in turn was a massive influence on Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band and its pre-release, non-album single “Strawberry Fields Forever,” the very song that caused Brian to abandon his storied Smile album, claiming The Beatles had already achieved what Smile had set out to do. Pop music was advancing so quickly in the 1960s, and it was largely because its two leading bands were constantly trying to outshine each other.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 09:02 PM (0sNs1)

133 31 A bit too maudlin on that last.

Al Hirt

https://youtu.be/fqwIpH6phJs

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:57 PM (zZu0s)

funny, have always liked his sound ...he always said he wasn't a jazz trumpeter, but , I really wish he had done stuff with Goodman, Miller knock off bands, etc, if he wasn't wanting to Bop, Be-Bop... there is a very cool clip of Hirt with Red Nichols and Pete Condoli https://youtu.be/Aea21Btwf-4?si=dUQLx8tcdbbT_6Sp

Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:03 PM (EDeJ/)

134 >128 Recognized as one of the best songs to ever come out of New Zealand. Which is kinda sad.

Still, fun and the large blond dancing girls are nice.

https://tinyurl.com/yw7yphb8

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:58 PM (viF8m)

I'll take Kimbra over that. She easy on the eyes, plus that phat bass track.
https://youtu.be/5eDQdYIqhbE?si=ZL8evmCTPNdIvjOq

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 09:03 PM (GTqXr)

135 I like the music threads. I end up with a lot to listen to that I would not otherwise run across. Could we have them a little more often? Maybe cut one of those boring movie threads.😜

Bonus: playing those songs loosens up my YouTube algorerhythm. Or, ought to.

Posted by: mindful webworker - algorechakras at July 18, 2026 09:04 PM (p+5Bi)

136 Michael Stanley Band

youtu.be/raH8s8O3qyk

RIP Michael Stanley

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 09:05 PM (jrKun)

137 Pouring down rain, glad I got home when I did

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 09:05 PM (Ia/+0)

138 124 Beach Boys were in a pretty weird spot by the late 1960s and just weren’t considered cool any longer. Brian wigged out and became a recluse and they couldn’t put together albums that would sell.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:55 PM (WcNzu)

Part of what destroyed them was that Brian bypassed the real band, and worked with the Wrecking Crew (studio musicians) almost exclusively.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:06 PM (mP0Kj)

139 This will get Eris dancing.

https://tinyurl.com/mu2hpmd2

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 09:06 PM (viF8m)

140 I recall an early Bloom County where the Stones were scheduled to play at a festival, and Bobbi (the teacher) shouts "Oh my God", and Milo says, "Right? These shmoes look almost 40."
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:50 PM (0aYVJ)
----
I don't think the Stones were going to play at a festival.

I believe Milo had booked them for their school dance (which makes it even funnier).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 09:06 PM (FZ29D)

141 Brian wigged out and became a recluse and they couldn’t put together albums that would sell.
Posted by: Common Tater

Marillion got a novelty song out of it.

https://youtu.be/yFdXuaWpcI0

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 09:06 PM (VHUov)

142 I am soooo stealing that top picture

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 09:07 PM (2WIwB)

143 And for those on the edge of liking country?

May I suggest a casual stroll through the Brad Pailsley songlist?

Whiskey Lullaby? I'm gonna miss her? Online?

100's of songs... a lot with humor.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:08 PM (mP0Kj)

144 Like jazz, no good country was released after 1965.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 09:09 PM (diia5)

145 Peter Gabriel - San Jacinto (Live)

youtu.be/_61sjeayD1M

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 09:11 PM (jrKun)

146 98 To be fair, Cow Demon is not referring to himself as The Cow Demon, either.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:42 PM (0sNs1)

There is no “The Cow Demon”, comrade. There are cow demons and snake spirits and ALL will be swept away.

Posted by: Mao at July 18, 2026 09:11 PM (4g5V+)

147 Barenaked Ladies had the song "Brian Wilson" with the line "Lying in bed , just like Brian Wilson did". Pretty good tune for a weird subject

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 09:12 PM (OXYE0)

148
Before each show of the summer Houston dog shows, the National Anthem is sung by one of the club members, who has a nice voice that is, all the same, very gentle and languid.

I've concluded that it's far better to have the Anthem sung by everyone in attendance. It might sound awful, but it would be an act of community uniting those present. It would also end "creative" interpretations, which can't happen soon enough.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 09:13 PM (O0L8i)

149 143 And for those on the edge of liking country?

May I suggest a casual stroll through the Brad Pailsley songlist?

Whiskey Lullaby? I'm gonna miss her? Online?

100's of songs... a lot with humor.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:08 PM.

I never knew any of George Strait's music until I heard someone do a cover of "Amarillo by Morning". I really liked it and started checking out more of his songs. It turned me into a fan.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:15 PM (Lzhdy)

150 This is not for radio, so I guess it's okay here:

https://youtu.be/2lZ_slY8Zxo

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 09:16 PM (VHUov)

151 Used to love Bloom County. Would love to see it come back and comment on our current political landscape.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 09:17 PM (2Ez/1)

152 My good luck song I listen to before trips.

https://tinyurl.com/33ja8atx

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 09:18 PM (viF8m)

153
151 Used to love Bloom County. Would love to see it come back and comment on our current political landscape.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 09:17 PM (2Ez/1)

Only if someone who doesn’t have their head up their ass is writing it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 09:19 PM (l+3gx)

154 I never knew any of George Strait's music until I heard someone do a cover of "Amarillo by Morning". I really liked it and started checking out more of his songs. It turned me into a fan.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:15 PM (Lzhdy)

There’s always “Is This The Way To Amarillo?” by Tony Christie.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 09:19 PM (4g5V+)

155 >And for those on the edge of liking country?
-----

come down from the ledge
we can work this out

Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 09:20 PM (ZxPkt)

156 >100's of songs... a lot with humor.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:08 PM (mP0Kj)

Many years ago, I worked as a book designer. One of the book covers I designed was being printed at a printing plant in western Va. Due to circumstances, I had to drive there in the wee morning hours. The only radio stations I could receive were what I would consider hard core country. It was...interesting to my young Yankee ears.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 09:20 PM (GTqXr)

157 108 Love the Beach Boys, and Sloop John B is a wonderful song, but it got me thinking. Are they really what you think of as a Rock and Roll band? Some stuff, yes. Some stuff, IDK. They're almost in their own category, given Brian Wilson's idiosyncratic abilities.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (QaH55)

Well, they popularized Surf Rock and the guitar solos on their early singles copied Chuck Berry, so I think of them as a rock and roll band, probably America's greatest.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 09:26 PM (y171U)

158 Popped up in the sidebar of the Angine de Poitrine vid:

Please STOP Sending Me This
Rick Beato
https://youtu.be/zO8bt94-ybg

Posted by: mindful webworker - dot-ilism at July 18, 2026 09:27 PM (p+5Bi)

159 154- There’s always “Is This The Way To Amarillo?” by Tony Christie.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 09:19 PM

(muffled snickering)

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:29 PM (Lzhdy)

160 I never knew any of George Strait's music until I heard someone do a cover of "Amarillo by Morning". I really liked it and started checking out more of his songs. It turned me into a fan.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:15 PM (Lzhdy)

the pride of Pearsall, TX. He used to have a 2 day music festival in San Antonio.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 09:30 PM (wOO3z)

161 If'n you can make it through the Paisley version of Whiskey Lulluby, with a dry eye...

Yer a better Man than I am Charlie Brown.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:31 PM (mP0Kj)

162 Dancing must be a lost concept.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:33 PM (abScH)

163 135 I like the music threads. I end up with a lot to listen to that I would not otherwise run across. Could we have them a little more often? Maybe cut one of those boring movie threads.😜

Bonus: playing those songs loosens up my YouTube algorerhythm. Or, ought to.

Posted by: mindful webworker - algorechakras at July 18, 2026 09:04 PM (p+5Bi)

well, having ZERO idea what you like....you are welcome in advance https://youtu.be/aYDfwUJzYQg?si=Qb4auMwjUZhxT2oR

Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:34 PM (EDeJ/)

164 Keb Mo

https://tinyurl.com/525wss27

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 09:37 PM (viF8m)

165 Dancing must be a lost concept.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:33 PM

Well, it didn't help when that meanie foreman came out and yelled at his men for their Terpsichorean frolicking.

Posted by: Kansas City Men's Dance Troupe at July 18, 2026 09:39 PM (0sNs1)

166 Ask your podiatrist if Terpsichorin is right for you.

Posted by: Big Fiser at July 18, 2026 09:41 PM (2Ez/1)

167 If'n you can make it through the Paisley version of Whiskey Lulluby, with a dry eye...

Yer a better Man than I am Charlie Brown.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:31 PM (mP0Kj)

Its sad but it's also more than a bit ridiculous.

1) War weary veteran returning home, troubled by the things he's done. The loving letters from his wife one of the only things that got him through.

2) He comes home to their house (would be even better if they had made it a house he built for her.)

3) He find her, not just banging a dude, but banging one in their bed.

Ok, fine enough (although she's retarded. She might not have known when, but she should have known he was coming home any day.)

1) the first part of the song is fine. He drinks himself to death, that all scans. The line 'She put him out, like a midnight cigarette' is dynamite

2) but then we are to believe that she was so heartbroken that she drank herself to death? Please. She would have moved and had done. She did not give a flying fuck about him or things would not have been set up that way.

And I am supposed to feel sympathy for this skank? No thanks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:41 PM (zZu0s)

168 The video was directed by Ricky Schroeder, btw. He also played the veteran.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:43 PM (zZu0s)

169 Years ago, I bought an album from the metal band Xandria. They are still in my playlists, but I had mostly forgotten about them. At least until a week or so ago, when YouTube recommended their new single to me. It's called 'Northstar,' and it's....pretty good. I think I'll be buying the album when the full thing gets released.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 18, 2026 09:44 PM (3v7ra)

170 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:41 PM (zZu0s)

Fuckin' Jody *spit*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 09:45 PM (0aYVJ)

171 The trailer for "I Play Rocky" came out two days ago and has created a lot of buzz. It looks like the movie could be a hit and I am interested in seeing it when it is released in November. Anyone else here see the trailer?

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 09:45 PM (y171U)

172 Clarence Gatemouth Brown came up on JackStraw's link. That is my kinda music.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:46 PM (abScH)

173 Apologies, line is 'She put him out, like the burning end of a midnight cigarette.'

A great line and the song itself is great, it's just the video is so overdone as to be laughable. Its a straight version of the 'Saddest Country Western Song Ever.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:47 PM (zZu0s)

174 Ella Langley is not hard on the eyes.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:48 PM (qFwJc)

175 171 The trailer for "I Play Rocky" came out two days ago and has created a lot of buzz. It looks like the movie could be a hit and I am interested in seeing it when it is released in November. Anyone else here see the trailer?
Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 09:45 PM

I did. It looks good but I found it unsettling hearing Stallone's voice coming out of another person's mouth. I don't know why but it was just so distracting to me.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:49 PM (Lzhdy)

176 Howdy CBD! Love me some Merle / Fightin' Side.

And totally agree with you on Carl Perkins Blue Suede rendition

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 18, 2026 09:51 PM (kOluj)

177 >>Dancing must be a lost concept.

I didn't lose it. I never had it. I aspire to be as good a dancer as Elaine on Seinfeld. White boy overbite disease.

Still, when I hear music that touches me I move.

https://tinyurl.com/5yaz8jps

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 09:52 PM (viF8m)

178 I did. It looks good but I found it unsettling hearing Stallone's voice coming out of another person's mouth. I don't know why but it was just so distracting to me.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:49 PM (Lzhdy)

LOL, perhaps too good an impression? Yeah, was/is weird to hear

Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:52 PM (EDeJ/)

179 You can post a link you know.

https://youtu.be/V_g_Ut0jO-0

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 09:53 PM (2Ez/1)

180 I think that's one of the reasons I am not too into country: the maudlin storytelling. That song sounds like a Telemundo soap opera. (I freely admit this is all subjective, and that I listen to plenty of things that other people would detest and/or scorn.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2026 09:53 PM (yjflf)

181 The first song I learned to play on guitar was Merle Haggard's Okie from Muskogee, because it only has two chords. I did add more chords to my repertoire later on.

Posted by: huerfano at July 18, 2026 09:54 PM (VJX5o)

182 178-LOL, perhaps too good an impression? Yeah, was/is weird to hear
Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:52 PM

Exactly! It just seems like laying it on a little too thick!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:54 PM (Lzhdy)

183 Its a straight version of the 'Saddest Country Western Song Ever.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:47 PM

In addition to everything else, if his truck didn't get wrecked, his dog didn't die, he didn't lose the bull-riding event by 0.8 points, AND his horse trailer wasn't crapped in by penguins, it's not the saddest country song ever.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 09:54 PM (0sNs1)

184 Just about the end of the music thread - but I think I know the sound track that goes with this news item:

“The US is currently striking Iran, with reports that President Trump told the military to "rain hell" down on Iran after the death of 2 American soldiers from an Iranian ballistic missile.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 09:55 PM (l+3gx)

185 You know racism is over when the argument is that black people aren't yachting enough because of racism

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2026 09:56 PM (sKqQm)

186 JackStraw, checkout Clarence Gatemout Brown doing Honky Tonk

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:56 PM (abScH)

187 I see the cops in Maine shot a guy that tried to hit them with a car in 2019. The Maine police and state government ruled it a good shoot because if you weaponize a car the cops can and should shoot you.

I wonder what is different now?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2026 09:57 PM (sKqQm)

188 In addition to everything else, if his truck didn't get wrecked, his dog didn't die, he didn't lose the bull-riding event by 0.8 points, AND his horse trailer wasn't crapped in by penguins, it's not the saddest country song ever.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 09:54 PM (0sNs1)

Isnt... his mom's in prison or something? Not dead but...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:59 PM (zZu0s)

189 Oh and seeing what the left's argument actually is for why it was ok for cops to shoot a perp trying to run them down in 2019 but not for ICE now is...its ICE and ICE are literal NAZIs.

Now that's some logic right there isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2026 10:00 PM (sKqQm)

190 Turn that racket down and get upstairs!

ONT is NOOD!

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:00 PM (VHUov)

191 >>JackStraw, checkout Clarence Gatemout Brown doing Honky Tonk

Will do. When you visit I will take you dancing.

I know a place.

https://tinyurl.com/4szyhj38

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:01 PM (viF8m)

192 I wonder what is different now?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2026 09:57 PM (sKqQm)

I agree with the Asmongold take that the reason the left does not tell people to protest in a civil manner but just keep stoking them is because they WANT people to get shot- even their adherents. They are grist for the mill.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:03 PM (zZu0s)

193 And I am supposed to feel sympathy for this skank? No thanks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:41 PM (zZu0s)

The other side of that is The Steeldrivers' If It Hadn't Been For Love

youtu.be/QAxEJ67MIH4

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:05 PM (rbvCR)

194 Oops!

Springsteen actually wrote Atlantic City. It's just that The Band did such a better job that it seems like it's their own song.

Mea culpa... mea culpa.. Mea Maxima culpa

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (l4RKn)

195 This one is for Anna Puma, Sayo Komada doing a cover or the Red Hot Chili Peppers' song Snow, on the Shamisen

youtu.be/H7mPTcBSuYI

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:14 PM (rbvCR)

196 Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:49 PM (Lzhdy)

LOL, perhaps too good an impression? Yeah, was/is weird to hear
Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:52 PM (EDeJ/)

Hell, I can do a pretty good Stallone impersonation. But I look more like Wilford Brimley. No Italian in my heritage.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (0aYVJ)

197 Sigh

Willowed yet again

whatever

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (0aYVJ)

198 Watermelon is great Frank.

Fighting Side is great Merle.

That tweet made me LOL, good choice CBD

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (lNLJj)

199 row, row, row your boat.
goat's head soup came out in mid school. last time i paid them any attention.
all the early sun label rockabilly is outstanding. get volumes one and two.
zappa noodle guitaring is a phone in, always with the xylarimba thing.
is that the singing drummer? boss should never have touched that song.
i won six tix to see merle (or was it waylon) with kris at the rosemont. they gave us folding chairs in the orchestra pit.

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Hobby Thread - July 18, 2026 [TRex]

Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. For this week, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) is into Heavy Metal. It spun and spun and landed on a metal working theme for this Hobby Thread.

Top photo: The first 52 cars bearing the Porsche name were built in a small sawmill near Gmünd, Austria. They were hand hammered aluminum on wooden forms. The example in this photo is the 8th oldest Porsche in existence and still runs.

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Let's talk Heavy Metal! Much of hobbying, building, and bodging generally involves either joining things together or cutting things apart. If you join or separate metal, you get to use hammers and fire. Sounds good, right?

Many home hobbyists are not welders or metalworkers. Some are and either learned in school metal shop or under the wing of a mentor. Some work with metal as a profession and transfer those skills to hobbying. Wood is cheaper than metal but it is also softer and less durable. Nobody builds engines out of wood.

Metalworking can involve shaping, forging, welding, casting, punching, milling, bending, extruding, rolling, and more.

Are you wise in the ways of metal? What skills do you have? How do you use them? How did you learn? What would you like to learn or try?

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What are you hobbying?

The thread is not limited to to the theme. Anything (legal) you are hobbying is welcome. Even if the theme does not speak to you, you might learn something or be entertained. If not, find something else or offer something else relating to hobbying. If all of that fails, just check in and say hello.

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. Leave politics and religion to threads elsewhere (unless your hobby is building or restoring churches). Pants are optional. As always, puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice and do not be rude. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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Welding basics:

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Metal crafts (the pipe wrench T-Rex at the beginning is awesome) - BTW, watch because there are some fun pieces, but mute the sound to avoid the AI narration:

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This is a great example of a video that pulls you into a rabbit hole you didn't know existed and then makes you care about it. "What makes this anvil so special?" (I also did not know that some people collect anvils. No reason why not - just never occurred to me before.)

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SuperfastMatt gets two entries in the content today. If you're into 3D printing, watch this video. You might be thinking "doesn't 3D printing involve plastic, not metal?" Watch and learn.

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Yes, the title says V12 epoxy table, but the video also has plenty of metal work. But V12 epoxy table should be enough to get your attention.

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A master coppersmith at work - lots and lots of little hammer taps:

Where did that copper come from?

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Forging axes by hand in Sweden (not so much a hobby as it is an industrial documentary, but fascinating to watch):

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Inheritance Machining is a YouTube channel that specifically focuses on machining metal. The scripts are very well written and presented and the videos well produced. No overdone clickbait bells and whistles. I struggled to pick a representative video but eventually landed on this one because it compares and contrasts different tools to accomplish the same objective.

Watch this for the backstory and shop tour - it is a good story told well and an enjoyable watch even if you're not into machining:

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Are you wise in the ways of custom metal cutting and fabrication? Do you like factory tours? This video is for you. Very impressive.

This is not a commercial or endorsement but SendCutSend operates an online platform for instant quoting and ordering. Customers upload CAD files, get immediate pricing, then customize with services like bending or finishing. Parts ship within days with no no minimum order quantities.

The company targets makers, hobbyists, small businesses, startups, and large enterprises by removing traditional manufacturing barriers like long lead times, high minimums, and outsourcing.

They operate several facilities across the US and Canada.

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This is way beyond hobbying, but watch this if you want to see the future of metal working. It is called Roboforming from a company called Machina Labs.

Both SendCutSend and Machina Labs are trying to solve the impediments to metal working - customization and scale. In the past, the fixed costs of tool and die making meant zero iteration and a high minimum production volume to make the cost worthwhile. Cost effective customization, with scale when needed? 3-D printing is another closely related technology that is changing the equation. Interesting times...

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Investigators release preliminary report on LEGO 747 and Space Shuttle crash

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did a small scale theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

Notable comment from last week:

Bonus content based on last week's theme: this mixes woodworking, epoxy, electrical and a touch of 3D printing. Way too small and fiddly for my dino fingers and patience but quite an impressive result.

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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Reminder: if you put links in the comments, use a URL shortener and describe what you're linking to. Failing to do either or both makes you barrel-eligible. Don't make people click to find out what you're linking.

A metal thread without an Iron Maiden link? Surely not. Here you go. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Or just email to say hello. Do mighty things.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 05:30 PM

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1 Other than 3d printing busts, haven't been doing much hobbying lately.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2026 05:33 PM (XV/Pl)

2 Where did that copper come from?
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I just let the automatic miner feed it into my automatic smelter in Satisfactory and 99.99% pure copper ingots are automatically produced for me.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 05:33 PM (FZ29D)

3 Hobbying? Finished a new short story today, 5300 words. Probably too long. Don't care.

The USPS site says my most recent pipe purchase, a vintage Comoy's straight pot-bowl sandblast, is out for delivery. We haven't seen any mail yet at all, so maybe it'll show up. Comoy was a French company, but they were known also for the pipes they made in England. This one has "Made in London England" stamped into it. I'm trying to decide what kind of tobacco to smoke in it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:40 PM (wzUl9)

4 (I also did not know that some people collect anvils. No reason why not - just never occurred to me before.)

"Collect" may be the wrong word.

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM (VHUov)

5 I did a drawing for an online class. The task was "draw yourself in the style of a show you like."

https://tinyurl.com/2s6ryjc9

A very very rare example of a self portrait, and you can probably see why there aren't many of those.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM (CHHv1)

6 Many years ago, the Hubley Corp., who used to make metal toy guns, also offered a line of metal scale model automobile kits. The bodies were metal, but the other bits like tires and interiors were plastic or rubber. Not sure if the chassis was metal; you'd think it would need to be to handle the weight of the body. The engines might have been plastic. I never bought or assembled one.

Not exactly metal *working*, but sorta close.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM (wzUl9)

7 That’s a 356 right?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 05:44 PM (D7w1V)

8 5 A very very rare example of a self portrait, and you can probably see why there aren't many of those.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM
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What did you do to irritate Batman?

Posted by: TRex - metallic dino at July 18, 2026 05:44 PM (XfIK1)

9 7 That’s a 356 right?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 05:44 PM
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Yep.

Posted by: TRex - alumninum dino at July 18, 2026 05:46 PM (XfIK1)

10 I did a drawing for an online class. The task was "draw yourself in the style of a show you like."

https://tinyurl.com/2s6ryjc9

A very very rare example of a self portrait, and you can probably see why there aren't many of those.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026

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If I could draw half as well as you, I'd draw myself as Napoleon Solo, or standing with him and April Dancer.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:47 PM (wzUl9)

11 Saw a beautifully restored 356 coupe the other day. Such a beautiful car.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:51 PM (viF8m)

12 I'm interested in 3d printing models for jewelry or other small parts and then using those for lost-wax metal casting. The equipment is not super expensive if you're OK with Chinese clones but I just don't have space for it right now.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 05:54 PM (vTZFs)

13 Tried to fix a non-booting laptop. Failed. It was free, so I'll throw it on the parts pile for the working twin I was also gifted. If that one dies maybe I'll have a working spare part for it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 18, 2026 05:55 PM (+9wcF)

14 11 Saw a beautifully restored 356 coupe the other day. Such a beautiful car.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:51 PM
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The bodywork on the Gmund 356 pictured above is not pretty. It shows the hammer marks and metal working witness marks. I'm glad it remains original. Other survivors are similar.

Posted by: TRex - hammering dino at July 18, 2026 05:57 PM (XfIK1)

15 We would be hobbying in the form of turning the upper frame from a 5th-wheel trailer into a screen to put dirt through, but it's hot and that's sapping all of our motivation.

I really want to test out my welding gloves....

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 18, 2026 05:57 PM (9C1ml)

16 Saw a beautifully restored 356 coupe the other day. Such a beautiful car.
Posted by: JackStraw

Used to see them all the time in Santa Barbara in my youth. We called them a Bathtub Porsche .

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 18, 2026 05:59 PM (NnhvP)

17 This’s a heap ‘o stuff!

Posted by: Eromero at July 18, 2026 06:04 PM (LHPAg)

18 >>Used to see them all the time in Santa Barbara in my youth. We called them a Bathtub Porsche .

This area is filled with vintage cars including Porsche clubs. On any given summer weekend it's common to see a line of dozens of vintage Porsches going going for a tour.

There's a Cars & Coffee rendezvous at Salve Regina University tomorrow. Jay Leno used to host some, not sure if he's still doing it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:11 PM (viF8m)

19 Good old school US steel Anvils are now stupid money, maybe a thousand bucks for good serviceable. Good to know if you spot one at a garage sale or something like that.

My great grandfather was a Scandi Iceback Blacksmith up in Minnesota, I was going to get a big elm stump and an Anvil just to have one in my garage, thought it would be neat. Until I saw what they cost. I didn’t want an Anvil that bad. LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 06:17 PM (Gs6BU)

20 Years ago I helped a SCCA racer with his 911 in some old school racing. Just doing tire changes, fetching stuff. The league he raced in was... fairly non-competitive in the strictest sense.

He prodded me to try it. So I bought a Porsche 914 and proceeded to embarrass myself.

But it was mega fun. While it lasted.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 06:18 PM (jehhT)

21 I am a Quality Engineering Technician at an additive manufacturing [3d printing, mostly titanium] start-up now, but I had a couple decades as a heavy metal fabricator.

I learned to weld by reading some stuff, buying a welder, and making stuff. I wanted to make medieval-style armor, so that was why I decided to learn to weld. And other metal-shaping skills.

I got my first fabricating job because I knew how to weld and cut, and I could work from blueprints and operate measuring tools.

Most of my fabricating was in water control. I built crest gates and roller gates that help prevent catastrophic flooding all over the US.

Unfortunately, working metal as a job eventually killed off my motivation to work metal as a hobby. So it's been 30+ years since I made any armor.

I still like my home 3d printer, though. It's my only "making stuff" hobby now.

Posted by: Gundo at July 18, 2026 06:19 PM (n6zcR)

22 >>He prodded me to try it. So I bought a Porsche 914 and proceeded to embarrass myself.

Most fun car I ever owned. Pain in the ass to work on but it handled like a go kart.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:21 PM (viF8m)

23 The only thing worse than “out for delivery” and not getting the parcel, is scheduling a pickup. “Your package has been successfully picked up!” the email sez.

Yeah, no. No it hasn’t. I’m looking at it right now, sitting on my porch. Assholes.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 06:21 PM (Gs6BU)

24 3 ... "The USPS site says my most recent pipe purchase, a vintage Comoy's straight pot-bowl sandblast, is out for delivery."

Wolfus,
Hope the pipe arrives soon. As to the tobacco, most straight pot shapes I've seen have a reasonably large bowl. Makes me think a flake tobacco, partly broken up, would work well in that shape.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 06:22 PM (yTvNw)

25 You can't beat a genuine ACME anvil.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 06:23 PM (Cqx++)

26 21 I am a Quality Engineering Technician at an additive manufacturing [3d printing, mostly titanium] start-up now, but I had a couple decades as a heavy metal fabricator.
Posted by: Gundo at July 18, 2026 06:19 PM
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Thanks for checking in. Anything in the content videos above resonate with you?

Posted by: TRex - roboformed dino at July 18, 2026 06:23 PM (XfIK1)

27 15 We would be hobbying in the form of turning the upper frame from a 5th-wheel trailer into a screen to put dirt through, but it's hot and that's sapping all of our motivation.

I really want to test out my welding gloves....

Posted by: FeatherBlade
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Are you panning for gold?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 06:24 PM (JS6jE)

28 Does anyone do restoration work on Porsche 914s anymore? I know there used to be shop in Atlanta that specialized in it.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 06:28 PM (D7w1V)

29 This wasn't deliberate but I noticed my last several pipe purchases have been Stokkebye 4th Generation pipes. (I like many of their tobacco blends as swell.) The shapes and sizes appealed, along with the price. They are a good value.

The 4th Generation 1931 blend is a navy flake. It is flavorful, no harshness, and smokes slow and cool. Wish it was offered in bulk. I actually prefer it to Escudo which is high praise.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 06:29 PM (yTvNw)

30 ***
The bodywork on the Gmund 356 pictured above is not pretty. It shows the hammer marks and metal working witness marks. I'm glad it remains original. Other survivors are similar.

Posted by: TRex - hammering dino
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Friend of the family was an iron worker/fabricator. A road accident bashed a rear fender of his pickup. Instead of buying a good one from the junk yard (cheap, in the day) he built an new fender, staying at the shop after hours. It was perfect.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 06:35 PM (JS6jE)

31 Are sports a hobby? France coming back like crazy! What!

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 06:35 PM (hftzA)

32 My dad and I restored a 1957 356A. I'm at dinner. More later...

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 06:36 PM (K7FuP)

33 28 Does anyone do restoration work on Porsche 914s anymore? I know there used to be shop in Atlanta that specialized in it.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 06:28 PM (D7w1V)

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Any good VW restorer should work, because, well, you know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 18, 2026 06:39 PM (u/oMr)

34 Never did any metal working although my grandfather was a master tool and die machinist. His department designed and made the prototype barrels for warship guns after WW I. Apparently, when my mom was a little girl he would bring home some of the shavings from the metal lathe work and she would sprinkle them in her hair as 'curls' for dress up. Considering how tiny she was, she probably looked like a decorative Munchkin. Wish there was a photo of that.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 06:39 PM (yTvNw)

35 I grew a Tobacco plant in a container once. It’s easy to grow. The bugs sure liked it though, cutworms or something. Curing tobacco is a little tricky, though I didn’t attempt that. It made perfectly serviceable smokes, beats sniffing burlap. It’s kinda pretty flower. Pipe tobacco is heavily flavored, it would be interesting to know all the stuff they do, fermentation and such, to smooth it out. I’m sure their flavorings are a closely held secret.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 06:39 PM (Gs6BU)

36 Late BF's father was a "body & fender man" at a local shop, in the days before Bondo.

He used lead to fill slight imperfections. I have that old kit -- sticks of lead and the (wooden!) shaping dollies.

No, I don't know how to use it, LOL.

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:42 PM (rdVOm)

37 >>Any good VW restorer should work, because, well, you know.

Blasphemer.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:44 PM (viF8m)

38 I became friendly with the intermodal manager where I worked a long time ago. He had some track work done and gave me a piece of rail about 16" long.

It's heavy! I smoothed the cut marks and polished it, and it's on my work bench for when I need something solid to bang on.

It makes me smile every time I use it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 06:48 PM (l4RKn)

39 >>>Apparently, when my mom was a little girl he would bring home some of the shavings from the metal lathe work and she would sprinkle them in her hair as 'curls' for dress up.
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Worked in an old time machine shop. The floor looked like a twinkling night. The concrete floor was black from oil (they all were back then) and it was full of steel shavings.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 06:51 PM (JS6jE)

40 The Porsche 914 platform has been extensively modified.

Can you imagine an eight cylinder 914? Two exist. Must be a rocketship go-kart.

Posted by: TRex - rennsport dino at July 18, 2026 06:52 PM (XfIK1)

41 Also inherited from late BF: his dad's other bodyworking tools, dollies and hammers.

He was the last of his family line, so that's how I ended up with the stuff.

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:53 PM (rdVOm)

42 Never did any metal working although my grandfather was a master tool and die machinist. His department designed and made the prototype barrels for warship guns after WW I. Apparently, when my mom was a little girl he would bring home some of the shavings from the metal lathe work and she would sprinkle them in her hair as 'curls' for dress up. Considering how tiny she was, she probably looked like a decorative Munchkin. Wish there was a photo of that.
Posted by: JTB
******
That's an incredible story. Any photos of your grandfather at work?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 06:54 PM (XfIK1)

43 It's heavy! I smoothed the cut marks and polished it, and it's on my work bench for when I need something solid to bang on.

It makes me smile every time I use it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Gramps worked for the RR and had a 6" piece of rail. When mending fence I would hold the rail on the opposite side to back up the drive. Heavy metal, those rails.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 06:58 PM (JS6jE)

44 The guy that is featured in that last video has more equipment than I've ever seen. I'd like to know what it takes to make metal signs with cut outs of scenes or words.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 07:00 PM (XfIK1)

45 I recall hearing about a smart feller who bid on some railroad scrap rails and got them at a great price. They were from a munitions factory, and this not made of ordinary steel, these were made of brass or some non-ferrous metal and worth a pretty penny. I love stories like that.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 07:03 PM (Gs6BU)

46 Massive metal working in my background. The dude I learned from was insane. I spent a year in auto body, and this guy was a master. I watched him straighten dented panels with no bondo. We had a pickup truck come on that rolled onto it's side and then right side up. This lunatic straightened the whole side with no bondo. That education was golden. Came in handy for fabrication with the harleys.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 07:05 PM (S41Gd)

47 Dad worked for NCR for years, back when it was all mechanical. I loved going to his shop to see all the machines in various states of repair. The smell of the cleaning solvents was wonderful. The old cash registers were splendid works of steampunk machinery. When NCR went computer, Dad was disappointed, but hung in there.

One thing he loved was spending a couple weeks in Yellowstone as field engineer. Most of the stores then still had the old machines. And he got away from our loud house.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 07:09 PM (0aYVJ)

48 Late BF's father was a "body & fender man" at a local shop, in the days before Bondo.

He used lead to fill slight imperfections. I have that old kit -- sticks of lead and the (wooden!) shaping dollies.

No, I don't know how to use it, LOL.

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:42 PM (rdVOm)

I still have those tools. Shocked, right? lol Yeah I learned the old school way first. I had to learn lead because quarter panels back in the day used lead in the seam where it joined to the roof. Hold on to those tools!

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 07:09 PM (S41Gd)

49 I didn't do a lot of metal working as a hobby but I did a lot of metal design for the pentagon. I had a crew who did prototyping for me and they were the best. Machining, sheet metal, welding. tool making. I miss that. Clinton fucked that all up.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 07:11 PM (sYM3s)

50 > The Porsche 914 platform has been extensively modified.
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There was, at a time, a real underground movement to put Subaru flat 6's in them. Like the ones in the WRX before they were neutered.

Fucking nutz. Engines were lightweight and threw more HP to the rears than the V6 Porsche put in later (914-6).

I did most of my stuff in a '74 with only exhaust and carb mods, such that it was at Laguna Seca. Almost flat out the entire lap. Barely broke 120MPH on the main straight.

But it was so much fucking fun. Even though I sucked.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 07:13 PM (jehhT)

51 >>>This lunatic straightened the whole side with no bondo. That education was golden. Came in handy for fabrication with the harleys.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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and he looked at bending or manipulating metal like an ordinary person would think of working a much softer material?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 07:13 PM (JS6jE)

52 42 ... "Any photos of your grandfather at work?"

Good evening The Grateful,
I never saw or heard of any photos. Since this was development work for the US Navy, the work may have been classified even if the facility wasn't. Just a guess on my part.

A side benefit of my grandfather working with 'heavy metal'. He was 21 with a wife and newborn daughter, my aunt, when the WW I draft started. Even that young, he was considered an expert on steam locomotives. Such positions were often exempted from the draft.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 07:14 PM (yTvNw)

53 >>Massive metal working in my background. The dude I learned from was insane.

When we were rebuilding my folks farm we had to have a bunch of metal work done. Some pieces weren't made anymore and some custom stuff for the barn.

We found this small metal shop the next town over that looked exactly how you would expect an old metal works place to look. The owner was ancient and had Parkinson's. His equally ancient assistant had to help translate because he had so much trouble speaking. He didn't really walk, he shuffled and looked like he was on the verge of falling constantly.

Yet somehow once he got into his shop he was a master. The stuff he produced wasn't just good it was art. It was fun to watch him work.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 07:18 PM (viF8m)

54 and he looked at bending or manipulating metal like an ordinary person would think of working a much softer material?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 07:13 PM (JS6jE)

It was a lot of hammer and dolly work, but his main tool that was mostly used was a wide slightly curved file. He would use that to smack down and flatten the areas and the teeth of the file left an imprint on the area. If he didn't see marks, the area was too low and he would adjust the dolly location. When he had a full tooth pattern he used the same file to smooth out the area, then hit it with the sander and prime. He was a wild man.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 07:20 PM (S41Gd)

55 53 ... "
We found this small metal shop the next town over that looked exactly how you would expect an old metal works place to look. The owner was ancient and had Parkinson's. His equally ancient assistant had to help translate because he had so much trouble speaking. He didn't really walk, he shuffled and looked like he was on the verge of falling constantly.

Yet somehow once he got into his shop he was a master. The stuff he produced wasn't just good it was art. It was fun to watch him work."

JackStraw,

That reminds me of the guy who showed me the basics of chip carving. His hands shook so badly you would think it wasn't safe for him to handle a knife. But when his knife touched the wood his moves were smooth and controlled.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 07:22 PM (yTvNw)

56 Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Maybe we'll do a travel theme next week. Sound good? Any preferences?

You're welcome to hang here for a while if you'd like, but don't forget to stop by Club ONT later.

Posted by: TRex - annealed dino at July 18, 2026 07:24 PM (XfIK1)

57 >>That reminds me of the guy who showed me the basics of chip carving. His hands shook so badly you would think it wasn't safe for him to handle a knife. But when his knife touched the wood his moves were smooth and controlled.

I was stunned when I first saw it. My dad and I went to the shop on a recommendation and when this old, shuffling guy who could barely communicate came out to talk with us I was ready to get back in the truck.

But when he went to work he figured out how to overcome his disability and the stuff he produced was beautiful. The human spirit is pretty amazing.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 07:27 PM (viF8m)

58 It's been good but not yet.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 07:29 PM (JS6jE)

59 Well my hobby nightmare today is changing handlebars on Mrs B's bike. She didn't like the bars I had on it. It was set up for me because it was the bike she rode on the back of. Since another bike replaced it as a 2 rider bike she's getting this one set up for her, so she don't have to deal with my setup when she wants to ride. Of course things never go easy because now cables and wires have to be changed or rerouted.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 07:31 PM (S41Gd)

60 In my State, pretty much all gambling is illegal. There's a cutout for church bingo - but not for cash prizes. It has to be an item, like a coffeemaker, or a laptop, or somesuch.

Now, thanks to the federal government, I was forced to become a charlatan preacher in the Universal Life Church back in 2020, so I could write up religious exemptions for people and they could dodge the vaccine mandates.

So I'm technically a church, and I also have a bunch of bullion. What's to stop me from hanging my church's shingle, putting some plastic tables out on the lawn, and running a bingo game where the non-cash prize is hard metal at spot price?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 18, 2026 07:32 PM (BI5O2)

61 Thanks for checking in. Anything in the content videos above resonate with you?
Posted by: TRex - roboformed dino at July 18, 2026 06:23 PM (XfIK1)

I absolutely love the tiny train, but I've also got over-large digits that kind of stuff.

Posted by: Gundo at July 18, 2026 07:32 PM (n6zcR)

62 Oh hell yes this is right up my alley.

I use SendCutSend almost every week. I spend over $10k with them so far this year. I can't stop designing metal parts in OnShape then exporing to SCS for them to cut, bend and powdercoat for me.

Last year I designed my own 12V fridge slide system instead of paying ARB $500 for one. I also designed a offroad jack mount for my roof rack.
I have a new M1102 bed rack designed in OnShape and I'm just waiting to pull the trigger on it. Over $1000 in parts needed.

Yesterday Harbor Freight was having a 30% off sale on all Titanium Welding products so I picked up a MIG 170. I set it up this morning but haven't tested it yet. I've got a AC/DC TIG machine already, just never had a MIG. It'll come in handy soon as I fabricate a crane to hoist my 275lbs roof top tent on top of my Hummer.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 18, 2026 07:33 PM (WYStd)

63 Late BF's father was a "body & fender man" at a local shop, in the days before Bondo.

He used lead to fill slight imperfections. I have that old kit -- sticks of lead and the (wooden!) shaping dollies.
No, I don't know how to use it, LOL.
Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:42 PM (rdVOm)

I still have those tools. Shocked, right? lol Yeah I learned the old school way first. I had to learn lead because quarter panels back in the day used lead in the seam where it joined to the roof. Hold on to those tools!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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This does not surprise me a bit...you two truly are kindred spirits!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 07:33 PM (XfIK1)

64 Had a buddy in college that had a 65 Ford Cobra. This was probably around that time period. He wrecked the passenger side door and fashioned a new one in the medal shop there. Couldn't tell the difference except for the color.

Posted by: javems at July 18, 2026 07:33 PM (zFsEm)

65 So I'm technically a church, and I also have a bunch of bullion. What's to stop me from hanging my church's shingle, putting some plastic tables out on the lawn, and running a bingo game where the non-cash prize is hard metal at spot price?

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Do it in the backyard but not in the name of Jesus.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 07:37 PM (JS6jE)

66 Given the my level of metal working ability, it's a good thing I live now. If I had been in charge of tool development in prehistory, we would still be using fire hardened wooden spears for hunting. Sigh!

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 07:38 PM (yTvNw)

67 That reminds me of the guy who showed me the basics of chip carving. His hands shook so badly you would think it wasn't safe for him to handle a knife. But when his knife touched the wood his moves were smooth and controlled.
Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 07:22 PM (yTvNw)
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Knew a guy who was one of the finest blackpowder gunsmiths in this part of the country. He was kind enough to put together my Baker Rifle replica. When I came in to proof fire the barrel, he said "I want to show you something." He rummaged around an old oil barrel and pulled out an old, somewhat rusty barrel that had the exact dimensions of my new Getz barrel. I was amazed. Two possibilities occurred to me - The 95th Rifles, 2BN (IIRC) was equipped with Bakers at the Battle of NO. And the Brits sold a lot of surplus Bakers to the Mexican Army shortly before Santa Anna's campaign in TX. Yep, at the Alamo. A lot of history all around us.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2026 07:38 PM (rj6Yv)

68 Do it in the backyard but not in the name of Jesus.

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Of course not.

We're Universal Brothers in Luck, in this House of Prosperity.

If our congregants wish to yield some tithe from their stupendous winnings up to their Lord, that's for the best, but we don't judge here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 18, 2026 07:41 PM (BI5O2)

69 Lost Music Nood.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:43 PM (sk9DV)

70 The copper bowl vid left me feeling like a talentless clod.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 07:44 PM (XeU6L)

71 Anyone seen Ronster?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 07:44 PM (XfIK1)

72 Dad'd 356. Purchased in 1976 for $2000. We did a full restoration, down to bare metal. Everything on the car came off. We got another wrecked car that had a sunroof, and swapped tops by cutting and welding at the pillars. Then took it to a paint shop for 14 coats of silver lacquer.

A year later we drove the completed car to a Porsche Club meeting in Indianapolis at the Indy 500 track and about 90 356s did some parade laps around the track. That was the day I got to drive on the Indianapolis Raceway track. I have some pics of that day and will try to send a couple.

Lots more stories about that car that I'll maybe tell you about sometime TRex.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:45 PM (MWfyi)

73 Wow, fd, $2000? I know what those cars go for today.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 07:46 PM (XfIK1)

74 72 Dad'd 356. Purchased in 1976 for $2000. We did a full restoration, down to bare metal.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:45 PM
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Great story. You still have the car, right? Right?

Posted by: TRex - restored dino at July 18, 2026 07:46 PM (XfIK1)

75 "Great story. You still have the car, right? Right?
Posted by: TRex - restored dino "

No. He sold it about 1995 or so. The German guy he sold it to said he was going to ship it to Germany for another full restoration including getting rid of the sunroof because it was not original to the serial number of the car. I think he sold it for $20K or so then.

I was supposed to get the car for a college graduation present but well I didn't so didn't. That's ok though, the path I took was probably more fun and I eventually rebuilt a Boxster which is a much better car anyway.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (MWfyi)

76 This thread reminds me of one reason why I love it here. My husband was a bit older than me---while he was designing radar systems for fighter jets during the Korean war, I was in grade school practicing hiding under my desk.

But I loved hearing him talk about what he did, even though I understood little to none.

Same with you guys. I love reading what you do. That doesn't mean I understand it. But I love it. You bring my beloved husband back to me.

Thank you.

Posted by: Wenda at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (u84c/)

77 76 This thread reminds me of one reason why I love it here.

Posted by: Wenda at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM
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Lovely post. Thank YOU!

Posted by: TRex - radar operator dino at July 18, 2026 08:14 PM (XfIK1)

78 Ah Wenda, welcome to my world. I am glad to have a friend with me, lol

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 08:15 PM (XfIK1)

79 No, TRex. Thank you. Big time.

Posted by: Wenda at July 18, 2026 08:24 PM (u84c/)

80 Love the Beach Boys, and Sloop John B is a wonderful song, but it got me thinking. Are they really what you think of as a Rock and Roll band? Some stuff, yes. Some stuff, IDK. They're almost in their own category, given Brian Wilson's idiosyncratic abilities.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 18, 2026 08:46 PM (QaH55)

81 Late BF's father was a "body & fender man" at a local shop, in the days before Bondo.

He used lead to fill slight imperfections. I have that old kit -- sticks of lead and the (wooden!) shaping dollies.

No, I don't know how to use it, LOL.
Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:42 PM (rdVOm)

Years ago, I bought the stuff to do it. Flux, stick lead, paddles, etc. I had the acetylene torch. Leaded a few fenders. It was not super easy, but doable. Spoiler: good plastic body filler is better. Easier to apply, bonds better, easier to sand down to shape, and dos not promote corrosion like the acids in the flux do. I have seen too many factory lead jobs fail after a span of years.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (1z8ji)

82 Thank you, Wenda.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 19, 2026 01:15 AM (CHHv1)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread, July 18

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And what about AI and trust?

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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.

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Scientists studying impact of painting wind turbine blade black to reduce bird collisions

CORVALLIS, Ore. – Oregon State University researchers are part of a team looking at reducing bird collision risks with wind turbines by painting a single blade of the turbine black.
Wind energy has a significant role during a time of climate change, rising energy demands and a transition from fossil fuels to clean energy, but it poses risks to birds and bats due to collision fatalities. Previous studies estimate that hundreds of thousands of birds and bats die each year as a result of collisions with wind turbine blades.
The Oregon State researchers, working with federal, industry and nonprofit partners, and funded in part by the Oregon Legislature, are building on recent research in Norway that found a nearly 72% decline in bird collisions with turbine blades when one blade was painted black.

Well, at least they're trying to help. But what about the bats?

How about just taking down the turbines and trying something else?

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Famous cat employee:

Absolute unit. https://t.co/Z7Ijo628Vg
— Wilfred Reilly (@wil_da_beast630) July 15, 2026

A more modern cat employee:

A company in Mexico rescued an orange stray cat and decided to hire him.

They named him Engineer Miauricio and gave him the title of Emotional Support Director. His responsibilities are smiling at coworkers, gently meowing and walking around the office. pic.twitter.com/fDuJOJmHnX
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) July 14, 2026

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This is Gemma. She’s a rescue dog from Texas who will only listen to her human if they speak in a southern accent. 13/10 a true southern belle pic.twitter.com/x185tpGqyI
— WeRateDogs (@dog_rates) July 16, 2026

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It's important to communicate with your animals:

This guy explains to a crowd of cattle how hes not able to get the well going to give them water but fortunately, someone is coming in an hour to give them water pic.twitter.com/UnyYQs7RLP
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) July 16, 2026

"Thank you for your continued support"

"Have a great day"

Meet The PetMorons

From Piper:

Trying to change the sheets on the bed…. pic.twitter.com/mfAVNDnzUT
— Piper (@piper_moves) July 18, 2026

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Bruno at the creek. He's such a good boy. He just finished his treatment for Lymphoma and is in remission.
- fd

Yay for Bruno! Thanks for the great photo of your good boy.

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Cat and Box
Lirio

Perfect photo of Cat in Box. Endearing.

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Still the cutest
Eris Enthroned

Lily, ready for love!

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Hi KT,
I'm sending some of my favorite photos of Bingley in honor of his 8th birthday, which I celebrate on July 18.
In October 2018, I was working in a large Midwestern university library. One day, a kitten found his way into the ceiling of the Main Library basement. Library staff heard his pitiful cries, climbed up and rescued him, and took him to the shelter to treat a tail injury. They circulated his picture around the library. When it got to my department, my coworkers decided I was the chosen one, as everyone else already had multiple cats and I just had one.
After he healed from a partial tail amputation, I brought him home. It took maybe 24 hours for my older cat to decide the new guy was all right, and in another few days the older cat had appointed himself Bingley's mentor in all things, especially the fine art of grooming. Until I lost my older kitty to cancer in 2022, the two of them were inseparable. Bing is the biggest snuggle bug I've ever known, 14 pounds of floof and love. He is a Very Good Kitty.
Thanks for the pet thread!
My nic is "screaming in digital"

Thanks for the great photos of your photogenic guy! Save that last photo for later. It's special, too!

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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today. We hit the jackpot with kitties this week, and will have some more photos to show, especially if you send yours, too!

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com
Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, July 11

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 03:36 PM

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1 Nice.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 18, 2026 03:40 PM (mQbp+)

2 Oh, and SPONGE!

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 18, 2026 03:42 PM (mQbp+)

3 screaming in digital

Awwww.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 18, 2026 03:42 PM (u82oZ)

4 What a fab Pet Thread, and hurrah for Bruno!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 03:42 PM (732As)

5 Mideast airports allow feral cats to roam the facility, since they are far better and more effective (and cheaper) rodent control than anything humans come up with.

I don't know if US prisons do that too, but they should.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 18, 2026 03:43 PM (bufu1)

6

KT,

Comment 19 on the gardening thread should be deleted.

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 03:44 PM (/QHx4)

7 Whoo Hoo!

Cats and squirrels! Two of my favorite animals!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 03:46 PM (FZ29D)

8 Not looking forward to taking the kittehs for rabies shots on Monday. I don't know why they are necessary if they're indoor cats but it's the 'law'. Also the vet said they can't treat them if they are unvaccinated. It's like a Covid shot and a woke hospital.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 03:48 PM (/WQyy)

9 SiD, I love Bingley's classy goatee and pencil mustache. Very suave.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 03:51 PM (kpS4V)

10 Hey KT, can I borrow the Ban Hammer for a moment?

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 03:51 PM (dIske)

11 And there's actual scientific data to back up my assertion that Lily is the cutest cat in the solar system.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 03:53 PM (kpS4V)

12
Best of Breed for The Big Dummy at today's Beaumont KC show. He's Daddy's good dumb dog.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 03:56 PM (3pDH/)

13 Lawn is cut, weed eating is done, cold beer is open, and Bruno is on the Pet Tread. I think I sent that pic to the wrong address but thank you for posting it anyway KT!

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 03:57 PM (MWfyi)

14 My ring camera has now filmed a giant rat snake, a raccoon, an opossum and a rabbit. Country life though I've seen the same when I lived in the city though not at my door.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 03:58 PM (/WQyy)

15 Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 03:58 PM (MWfyi)

16
We are making plans to move Puff, Ruth and Dutchess up to the house and shut down the kennel. It will be better for them and save tons on AC costs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 03:59 PM (3pDH/)

17 Oh boy oh boy oh boy!

Posted by: Puff, Ruth and Dutchess at July 18, 2026 03:59 PM (MWfyi)

18 Meow...

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (sAmhv)

19 Hadrian,
I've always meant to ask if there are cash prizes that come with Best in Breed prizes. Do dog shows work that way?

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (lJ0H4)

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A houseful of dogs. I love that.

For many years we had four dogs in the house.

Only two now, house feels empty.

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (/QHx4)

21 And there's actual scientific data to back up my assertion that Lily is the cutest cat in the solar system.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 03:53 PM (kpS4V)
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Hard to argue with that, though Kaylee the Calico Kitty Cat (the cutest little cat of them all) provides stiff competition...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (FZ29D)

22 Bruno lives in my shop and rarely comes in the house, because cats. That's fine with him because it's like a big doghouse for him and I spend most of my time in here too. He has a doggy door on the back so he can come and go as he pleases.

If he did live in the house I don't know what we would do with all the dog hair when he sheds. As it is I use a shop vac almost daily to suck up all the hailballs.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (MWfyi)

23 hairballs. A vast amount of hairballs. Everywhere.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:04 PM (MWfyi)

24 It ought to be possible to set a "preferred box size" option on Amazon. My late kitty Opal was a size A7, in boxes. LOOOOVED the boxes ... and the rustly paper they used for packing. So much so I ordered a big roll of it, forever confusing U-Line corporation (whence it came) and I kept getting their catalog for industrial packing needs. Nope, just a cat getting spoiled ...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 18, 2026 04:05 PM (k+oif)

25 I’m up to 6 horses 2 new rescued dogs and a little tabby kitty appeared out of nowhere by the horse trough last week so I guess we have a barn cat now too

Posted by: Biggest Alfredo at July 18, 2026 04:06 PM (RBsvc)

26 Afternoon all!

Small cat update

https://tinyurl.com/dg65258

I see we have some beautiful pet morons today. I'm so glad Bruno is in remission.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 04:08 PM (2F0/Y)

27 I have reams of data, Perfessor. Reams.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:08 PM (kpS4V)

28 I grew up with dogs and cats that were mostly inside but had access to the outside. That means I also grew up with fleas . The 70's weren't great with flea prevention.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 04:10 PM (/WQyy)

29 So much so I ordered a big roll of it, forever confusing U-Line corporation (whence it came) and I kept getting their catalog for industrial packing needs. Nope, just a cat getting spoiled ...
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 18
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U-Line needs to circle back and drill down on a cat-centric product line.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:12 PM (kpS4V)

30
I've always meant to ask if there are cash prizes that come with Best in Breed prizes. Do dog shows work that way?

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (lJ0H4)

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Quite infrequently there are cash prizes for Best in Show, but otherwise no.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 04:13 PM (3pDH/)

31 Afternoon, Pet Folken! "Towser" is usually a name given to dogs*, but I don't suppose it disturbed the cat in the least. 29,000 mice in 24 years! Wow!

"Cat in Box" looks a lot like my Dagny Sophia, except this one seems to have more white on her face; and Lily resembles Dagny too, except Lily has a much longer tail.

Bingley would have a super cute face even without the black bits. He looks much like the late Chekov D. Siberian.

* I believe the dog in the Clifford D. Simak short story, one of he "City" cycle, set on one of Jupiter's moons was named "Towser."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:14 PM (wzUl9)

32 Christmas Day was a huge day for our cats. Boxes and wrapping paper. They had more fun than I did.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 04:14 PM (/WQyy)

33 BOO!

Posted by: The Mutant Raccoon at July 18, 2026 04:19 PM (MWfyi)

34 Hair balls? Linda combs little puffball Dagny and gets handfuls of the gray stuff, enough to assemble a realistic-looking tribble.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:21 PM (wzUl9)

35 *skitters away*

Posted by: The Mutant Raccoon at July 18, 2026 04:21 PM (MWfyi)

36 The first two pictures were the wrong ones to post today, as I sit here waiting on the guy to come a remove the little buggers from my attic.

Posted by: Bones at July 18, 2026 04:21 PM (pK0gS)

37 Sangria doesn't actually have a preferred size--doesn't even matter if it's still a box. I had one flattened for recycle and made the mistake of putting it down for a minute. She slept on it for an entire afternoon.

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 18, 2026 04:21 PM (ky7/T)

38 And Bingley graciously allowed a visit with me and my critters during the move. He really was not pleased to meet Jake, my springer, and was happy to see him leave.

Patsy has decided she must be in my lap today, so keeps showing up every time I sit down.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 18, 2026 04:22 PM (bkuEU)

39 "Wind energy has a significant role during a time of climate change, rising energy demands and a transition from fossil fuels to clean energy, but it poses risks to birds and bats due to collision fatalities. Previous studies estimate that hundreds of thousands of birds and bats die each year as a result of collisions with wind turbine blades.

The Oregon State researchers, working with federal, industry and nonprofit partners, and funded in part by the Oregon Legislature, are building on recent research in Norway that found a nearly 72% decline in bird collisions with turbine blades when one blade was painted black.

The "climate change" we observe is natural variability. Burning coal in power plants has nothing to do with it. And wind generators are no "solution" since fossil fuel plants have to keep idling to create "spinning reserves" for when the wind stops blowing, or begins to blow too hard.

And if you paint one blade black, you are going to have to paint the other two white. Paint has mass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 04:22 PM (1z8ji)

40 * I believe the dog in the Clifford D. Simak short story, one of he "City" cycle, set on one of Jupiter's moons was named "Towser."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:14 PM (wzUl9)

Towser is an ancient traditional dog name, same as "Fido".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 04:24 PM (1z8ji)

41 Paint each blade 1/3 black, in different places on each blade.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:25 PM (MWfyi)

42 My furry thugs are doing well. Stirling, who just slept with me as he usually does in the afternoons, is now sprawled on the floor at the far end of the couch.

Dagny is . . . well, somewhere. Probably in her kitty sauna, the west-facing bedroom window with blackout curtains. Even she gets tired of the sun, though, and I often find her curled in my desk chair. I take hold of the chair to move it out in preparation for my sitting down, find the chair remarkably heavy, look, and see a gray puffball curled on the cushion. I perch myself on the edge of the chair so as not to dispossess her, of course, but she usually leaves soon after.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:25 PM (wzUl9)

43 Towser is an ancient traditional dog name, same as "Fido".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026

***
Along with Rover, King, and I suppose, Chopper.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:27 PM (wzUl9)

44 >>I’m up to 6 horses 2 new rescued dogs and a little tabby kitty appeared out of nowhere by the horse trough last week so I guess we have a barn cat now too

We didn't have cats. Cats had us. If you have a barn full of animals cats appear like magic.

Only had one over the years who decided to venture inside the house. She decided sleeping of top of my dad was her happy place. Literally on top of him. He named her PITA as in Pain In The Ass but he secretly loved that cat.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 04:30 PM (viF8m)

45 Love the guy giving the announcement to the herd. Reminded me of many an office meeting.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 04:30 PM (2Ez/1)

46 Paint each blade 1/3 black, in different places on each blade.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:25 PM (MWfyi)

To do that right, you would have to do some math. The mass of each paint band, multiplied by the distance of the center of mass of each paint band from the spin axis, would have to be equal. Given that the blades do not have a uniform surface area per unit of length, it could be tricky. Not impossible, but more work than one might guess.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 04:32 PM (1z8ji)

47 I’m up to 6 horses 2 new rescued dogs and a little tabby kitty appeared out of nowhere by the horse trough last week so I guess we have a barn cat now too

We didn't have cats. Cats had us. If you have a barn full of animals cats appear like magic. . . .

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026

***
Linda persists in saying Stirling began life as a barn cat -- well, kitten -- with other animals at the Vicksburg shelter, including the donkey they had in a corral when we drove up. I suppose his mother might have been a barn cat, but clearly Stirling was raised by people.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:33 PM (wzUl9)

48 >>Linda persists in saying Stirling began life as a barn cat -- well, kitten -- with other animals at the Vicksburg shelter, including the donkey they had in a corral when we drove up. I suppose his mother might have been a barn cat, but clearly Stirling was raised by people.

It really is a fascinating how cats just show up around a barn. It makes sense, lots of food in a relatively open space brings mice and that brings cats, but how do they just appear? Is there an underground network of cats relaying information?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 04:38 PM (viF8m)

49 "Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon "

Just paint the backsides of the blades at the opposite ends and the blade with the stripe in the center paint the other side just the same. Use the same amount of paint for each segment and don't worry so much about the area.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:40 PM (MWfyi)

50 Bingley is taking a birthday nap, but he says thank you for the compliments.

Eris, Lily is adorable and so floofy! I want to scratch her belly. But not sure that's wise. Bing loves tummy rubs but he might be an outlier.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 04:41 PM (hPLSE)

51 What am I saying. Just tear the damn things down and go nuclear. For the children. And our pets. As the case may be.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:43 PM (MWfyi)

52 "Wind energy has a significant role during a time of climate change..."
**********

No. No, it doesn't.
Don't you love how so many writers just assume we all agree that "climate change" is an accepted fact?

Kinda like evolution.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 04:44 PM (2Ez/1)

53 Eris, Lily is adorable and so floofy! I want to scratch her belly. But not sure that's wise. Bing loves tummy rubs but he might be an outlier.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 04:41 PM (hPLSE)
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She will gladly let you rub her tummy. She's the only cat I've had that doesn't have any No Petting Zones.

My big boi Cosmo would offer up his fuzzy belly for rubz and you'd get your hand impaled on fish hooks. Trickery! Trickery!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:45 PM (kpS4V)

54 I take hold of the chair to move it out in preparation for my sitting down, find the chair remarkably heavy, look, and see a gray puffball curled on the cushion. I perch myself on the edge of the chair so as not to dispossess her, of course, but she usually leaves soon after.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:25 PM (wzUl9)
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I keep a "backup folding chair" in my office just for that reason. I'll move my normal office chair to one side and then use the backup chair.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 04:46 PM (FZ29D)

55 It really is a fascinating how cats just show up around a barn. It makes sense, lots of food in a relatively open space brings mice and that brings cats, but how do they just appear? Is there an underground network of cats relaying information?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 04:38 PM (viF8m)
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Yes. I'm convinced cats have a secret communication network. How else can you explain why a new cat will show up in your life shortly after you lose a cat?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 04:48 PM (FZ29D)

56 Cats don't sit in my chair. They know I will sit on them.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:50 PM (MWfyi)

57 What am I saying. Just tear the damn things down and go nuclear. For the children. And our pets. As the case may be.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:43 PM (MWfyi)

Now you're talkin'.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 04:51 PM (1z8ji)

58 She will gladly let you rub her tummy. She's the only cat I've had that doesn't have any No Petting Zones.

My big boi Cosmo would offer up his fuzzy belly for rubz and you'd get your hand impaled on fish hooks. Trickery! Trickery!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026

***
Dagny loves it, and Stirling is fine with it. My earlier cats must not have been, because it didn't occur to me to try it on these two until Linda took the chance and found they love belly rubs.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:51 PM (wzUl9)

59 How else can you explain why a new cat will show up in your life shortly after you lose a cat?
--/

Like New Yorkers sensing when somebody dies in a rent controlled apartment.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:51 PM (kpS4V)

60 What a great story, SID.
And what beautiful kitties.

So nice to see a photo of Bruno, Fd, thank you for sharing that. Glad to hear he is remission, and may he have many, many years of being a Good Boy.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 04:52 PM (4VH0B)

61
I believe the dog in the Clifford D. Simak short story, one of he "City" cycle, set on one of Jupiter's moons was named "Towser."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

He preferred being a creature of Jupiter to being a dog.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 04:53 PM (Cqx++)

62 I missed this for the Garden Thread but Experts are recommending hugging a watermelon to keep cool. I don't know how they feel about cantaloupes.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:53 PM (MWfyi)

63 FYI, the Clifford Simak short story with the dog "Towser" is called "Desertion."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:55 PM (wzUl9)

64 "Posted by: TecumsehTea"

Thank you. I know how it goes with big dogs but I think he's got a few more good years ahead.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:55 PM (MWfyi)

65 Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should.
——-

You shouldn’t say things like that

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 04:56 PM (xJ+d7)

66 Experts are recommending hugging a watermelon to keep cool.
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Has that watermelon been enhanced with a bottle of Valu-Rite?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:56 PM (kpS4V)

67 Hadrian, does that mean no more breeding, or having puppies? Is Her Majesty slowly ending her career with the dogs?

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 04:57 PM (4VH0B)

68 Getting a watermelon drunk and taking advantage of it will not keep you cool.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:57 PM (MWfyi)

69 Had an interesting critter show up in my yard this week. And Eastern Milk Snake. I've never seen one before but this guy just appeared on my patio catching some rays. Elvis, being the goofball his is, just walked right over him on his way to scold a disrespectful rabbit that dared to enter his domain. I was a bit more respectful.

No step on snek.

https://tinyurl.com/4zyx9hjd

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 04:58 PM (viF8m)

70 "You shouldn’t say things like that
Posted by: Common Tater"

You're right. I take it back.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:59 PM (MWfyi)

71 JackStraw, that is an attractive snake.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 05:00 PM (kpS4V)

72 What, no story about Jimothy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 05:01 PM (Cqx++)

73 " JackStraw, that is an attractive snake."

I bet you say that to all the guys. With snakes, I mean.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 05:03 PM (MWfyi)

74 Nope, just a cat getting spoiled ...
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 18, 2026 04:05 PM (k+oif)

I second that emotion. My cat is more of a Lane Bryant cat but thinks she’s Twiggy and will cram herself into a box come hell or high water. If it’s a big box, I’ll make a roof out of the brown paper so she can burrow under it. I think she’s half prairie dog.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 18, 2026 05:03 PM (SjAWL)

75 If you think wind energy is efficient and reliable then there are likely a few other things wrong.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 18, 2026 05:04 PM (YlWIZ)

76 Well, just because you shouldn’t say something doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. Shouldn’t you? Hm, forget it I need to go lay down for a while. For some reason I just noticed “shouldn’t” is a weird looking word.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 05:04 PM (xJ+d7)

77 >>JackStraw, that is an attractive snake.

I thought so too. Not really a fan of snakes but this guy/gal, how can you tell what sex a snake is, was really pretty.

Saw it again a couple days later slithering across the yard. I'll be ok if I don't see it again despite the good look.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:05 PM (viF8m)

78 I think she’s half prairie dog.
Posted by: TxAnn at July 18, 2026

***
You can never get between a prairie dog and his burrow -- or a burrow, since a prairie dog town has so many.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:05 PM (wzUl9)

79 *sigh*

Time to dole out the tender vittles to the hungry horde...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 05:05 PM (FZ29D)

80 >68 Getting a watermelon drunk and taking advantage of it will not keep you cool.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:57 PM
+++++

This might:

https://youtu.be/dSNSyioD2Bk

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 05:06 PM (2Ez/1)

81 I read somewhere the wind turbines use an expensive, synthetic gearbox oil, and quite a lot of it, too. It needs replacing after the initial 50 hours or whatever as well. $$$$

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 05:06 PM (xJ+d7)

82 "This might:

https://youtu.be/dSNSyioD2Bk
Posted by: Quarter Twenty "

That is one dangerous watermelon.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 05:10 PM (MWfyi)

83 When our boys were in early teens they had a couple corn snakes. Raised mice to feed them. I like snakes, prefer them to bugs and rodents, really.
We had a close call with a massasauga snake in MI once. They are mildly venomous, and not aggressive. We were hiking and our son almost stepped on it. We backed away and the snake shook his tail and went the other way.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 05:12 PM (4VH0B)

84 >>We were hiking and our son almost stepped on it.

That's probably why snakes are not my thing. Most of my encounters have "almost stepped on it" in the story.

I like animals that announce their presence and intentions at a respectful distance so we can both carry on.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:18 PM (viF8m)

85 Sending love to all the pet moronz and hugs to hoomanz that are missing them

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 18, 2026 05:21 PM (7gFa4)

86 JackStraw, they do tend to blend in.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 05:21 PM (4VH0B)

87 That is one dangerous watermelon.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 05:10 PM
********

MoMe worthy.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 05:23 PM (2Ez/1)

88 >>JackStraw, they do tend to blend in.

We have garter snakes here. Harmless but their camouflage is perfect. Completely blend in.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:26 PM (viF8m)

89 I perch myself on the edge of the chair so as not to dispossess her, of course, but she usually leaves soon after.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Aww...

I'd do the same. But Cat won't!

One day, as I sat in a patio chair, Cat jumped on behind me. (He's not a "lap kitty" at all, and not snuggly although he does enjoy skritches.)

And then he burrowed down. And then he stretched out. And then he extended his legs and pushed me out of the chair!

"Not enough room for BOTH of us, Mom!"

I got up and sat in the other, identical, chair. Rotten brat Cat!

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 05:28 PM (rdVOm)

90 This might:

https://youtu.be/dSNSyioD2Bk
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 05:06 PM (2Ez/1)
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That's insane that a watermelon can retain four bottles of booze in addition to its normal water content...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 05:31 PM (FZ29D)

91 Reaction to Snakes

• Civilian: Runs away from the snake screaming.
• Paratrooper: Lands on and kills the snake.
• Armor: runs over snake, giggles, and looks for more snakes.
• Infantry: "Look, a putty cat. Come 'ere kitty....Ouch! Hey, that's not a putty tat."
• Army Aviation: Has GPS grid to snake. Can't find snake. Back to base for crew rest and the club and some sort of drink called "The Snake."

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:31 PM (zhuhT)

92 • Ranger: Plays with the snake, then eats it.
• 2nd Ranger: Assaults the snake's home and secures it for use by friendly snakes.
• MI: analyzes all available intelligence and national asset input on the reptilian situation; reports sighting of Godzilla to National Command Authority.
• JAG: Advises the snake on the rules of engagement and the law of war as it pertains to the snake and its defensive posture.
• Quartermaster: Captures snake and applies a National Stock Number (NSN) to it. Implements a Found On Installation (FOI) procedure and picks up snake on property book. Has company commander sign hand receipt for "Snake, Green, One Each," as non-expendable unit property.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:32 PM (zhuhT)

93 Hobby thread nood

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 05:33 PM (lJ0H4)

94 • Chemical Corps: Starts to gas the little booger, but then realizes that there is an M-18, A-2 Respirator especially made for snakes, remembers the Chemical Corps Motto, "UTRWBAG" (Up Their Rear With Bugs and Gas), and conducts three experiments on it that have been strictly prohibited by the Clinton Treaty of 1999.
• Navy SEAL: Expends all ammunition, several grenades and calls for naval gunfire in a failed attempt to kill the snake. The snake bites the SEAL then retreats to safety.
• Artillery: Kills snake, but in the process kills several hundred civilians with a massive TOT with three FA BDEs in support. Mission is considered a success and all participants (cooks, mechanics, clerks) are awarded Silver Stars.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:33 PM (zhuhT)

95 • Marine Recon: Follows the snake and gets lost.
• Pathfinder: Guides the snake elsewhere.
• AF Fighter Pilot: Mis-identifies the snake as a Russian HIND helicopter and engages it with missiles. Crew chief paints a snake on airplane.
• AF Pararescue: Wounds the snake in first encounter, then feverishly works to save the snake's life.
• Green Beret: Makes contact with the snake, builds rapport, wins its heart and mind, then trains it to kill other snakes.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:34 PM (zhuhT)

96 Hobby NOOD

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 05:38 PM (FZ29D)

97 Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:32 PM (zhuhT)
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Brilliance!

"Marine Recon: Follows the snake and gets lost."

*applause*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 05:57 PM (kpS4V)

Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, July 18

From last week:

Happy Wednesday, KT! I have an actual sunflower blooming! This is at the top of my 11 foot tall plant. This one started as a volunteer from last year's seeds so I think it will have the same smaller multi-colored blooms.
On the inside, my orchid is loving the AC. Update on the spider plants - they have been going to town. They really do look like fireworks! Thanks for last week's pictures.
Mrs. Leggy

Wow! Such fun! I don't remember seeing your orchids before.

And here's another sunflower (not 11 feet tall) with a visitor:

I’ve done very little work today, unlike the bees 🐝
This evening continuing the relaxing day with some drinks in the summerhouse. You can join us if you like, but unfortunately there’s only enough room for 2 chairs!!
Have a great evening 🥂cheers! pic.twitter.com/tMEmsmNTOh
— Garden Brocante (@GardenBrocante) July 14, 2026

Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

From By-Tor:

My garden is hitting full stride. Which is a bit overwhelming. Luckily I have friends that are happy to get the overflow.

Great haul from a container garden!

When you have too many tomatoes all at once, you make soup. Especially if you have fresh basil.

Mmmmmmmm

Nature

Somewhere in this world right now, someone is letting the gentle song of birds replace the chaos of breaking news.

And in that simple moment, the world feels a little more hopeful again. pic.twitter.com/8zfuuC0blQ
— The Figen (@TheFigen_) July 17, 2026

The diversity of nature

A plant whose flowers look like jewellery pic.twitter.com/k7CqD0Y8nQ
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) July 14, 2026

Puttering

Graffiti laser removal is oddly satisfying to watch.

Credit: Twonix pic.twitter.com/DQTBDoJ2Z6
— HOW THINGS WORK (@HowThingsWork_) July 15, 2026

Science

Read the comments:

Fun fact: you can see photosynthesis in real-time.

This is an aquatic plant producing oxygen. pic.twitter.com/ZiOO14nJX3
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) July 15, 2026

Gardens of The Horde

I don't usually get blossoms every year. Not sure why, but I really like it when they come out.
Diogenes

Beautiful!

Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, July 11

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:35 PM

Comments

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1 Humidity 46% 82° and sunny in van nuys.
As usual, I feel hotter. And the solar outage of tv sucks

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 01:40 PM (smHg8)

2 I picked the first green beans of the year so there pppppppfffffffttttt

Posted by: what the cat drug in at July 18, 2026 01:49 PM (jrgJz)

3 what the cat drug in at July 18, 2026 01:49 PM

Yay!

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 01:56 PM (rdeQO)

4 This has been crepe mrytle week in our area. Just about every shrub, some are 20 feet tall, in full bloom. And I noticed more colors than usual: more varied reds and purples but also yellow which are lovely. Even the little crepe in the backyard, always the last to bloom, has flowers. It's been miserably hot lately so I mostly see them from an air conditioned car.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 01:59 PM (yTvNw)

5 KT,
I wasn't available for your previous thread to comment but thanks for the post and links. It ties in with some of my concerns about the current society, which also is reflected in the scouring of the Shire chapter in LOTR. Might be time to get out some of my Wendell Berry essays and poems.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 02:11 PM (yTvNw)

6 In case you missed this last month:

"Supreme Court blocks thousands of Bayer lawsuits over weedkiller 'cancer risk' "

https://shorturl.at/vs0wT

Reeeeeeee!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 02:13 PM (XeU6L)

7 Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 02:13 PM

A consequence of EPA regulation, I think.

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 02:25 PM (rdeQO)

8 Anybody ever seen graffiti removal like that before?

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 02:26 PM (rdeQO)

9
I think I saved the lily that I nearly killed. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 02:27 PM (mmrXZ)

10 8 Anybody ever seen graffiti removal like that before?
Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 02:26 PM (rdeQO)

No, but it looks cool! We don't have much graffiti around here except on train cars.

Posted by: Emmie at July 18, 2026 02:28 PM (OlzlW)

11 What lovely orchids and sunflowers!

My pollinator bed is a hotbed of activity, and the sunflowers in my vegetable garden are swarming with bees.

Tomatoes are doing gangbusters in spite of my overplanting and the general condition of beautiful chaos that I've allowed. Had my first plateful of maters yesterday: Lemon Boy, Alice's Dream, and Independence Day. Just pink salt and cracked pepper on top -- yum!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 02:31 PM (kpS4V)

12 It's still hot and muggy outside, but at least the forest fire schmutz is mostly gone.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 02:33 PM (kpS4V)

13 Aw, two monarch butterflies are doing a tango around the butterfly weed.

Bugs makin' whoopie! 💜 🦋

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 02:49 PM (kpS4V)

14 Yep, harvested first beans today in Northern NH. Tomatoes are growing in size, still green. Blueberries are ready to pluck.
And it’s been rainy enough that the lawn is still green.
Feels good on bare feet in early evening.

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 02:56 PM (LMRVO)

15 I have fresh basil and parsley every day.

Soup
Compound Butter
Pesto
Lots of other stuff.

Next year, I'm adding rosemary.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2026 03:03 PM (rj6Yv)

16 Something I've noticed the last couple of years in our area. I see less evidence of home veggie gardens. But the local farmers market, which is restricted to produce from the area, is busier than ever. Not sure of the reason. I can say the local produce is excellent but you can't buy too much at a time since it is ripe when bought, unlike the grocery. I should think of a canning schedule and buy in bulk.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 03:09 PM (yTvNw)

17 Something I've noticed the last couple of years in our area. I see less evidence of home veggie gardens. But the local farmers market, which is restricted to produce from the area, is busier than ever. Not sure of the reason. I can say the local produce is excellent but you can't buy too much at a time since it is ripe when bought, unlike the grocery. I should think of a canning schedule and buy in bulk.
Posted by: JTB

Gardens are a chore. A never-ending chore, til frost.
My wife ain't helping this year, and I'm trying like hell to figure out how to keep such a large space weed-free, watered, and still work.
I'm thinking next year, it's back to straw, with a helping dose of Treflan (Preen).

I tried for 20 years to get rabbits on this hill. I now have them.
More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered prayers (attributed to Teresa of Avila).

Posted by: MkY at July 18, 2026 03:25 PM (q6tQZ)

18 That singing birds video reminded me of something I saw recently that just blew me away. There is an Autistic kid named Samuel Henderson who has this passion and affinity for doing bird calls. He's absolutely fantastic and has a catelogue of over 50 calls...

Here's a video of him:

https://tinyurl.com/522bh7ut

Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 03:27 PM (dIske)

19 We've recently planted several fruit trees and grapes and berries, but not much product yet.

MiladyJo was throwing a tennis ball for Daisy Dog, and it went into one of the several-years-old pear trees and lo and behold a small pear dropped out. Weren't sure we had any. Not quite ripe, but might still ripen up.

Last week, we harvested a few figs. Figs! I'd never had a fresh fig before. Hope we can get many more.

I want to grow corn!

Posted by: mindful webworker - herbs and flowers too! at July 18, 2026 03:32 PM (p+5Bi)

20 We had our first BLT of the year.
I'm in love all over again. Employee (who buys his plants) gave us 3.
We are not getting maters yet. We were late. (See helper comment above). We are getting peppers, okra, green beans and cukes.
Rabbits ate down our sweet taters.
Second planting of green beans coming next weekend.

Posted by: MkY at July 18, 2026 03:36 PM (q6tQZ)

21 Pet thread up.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 18, 2026 03:41 PM (mQbp+)

22 My goal this year is to escape tomato blight and combat deer. SO far so good. Peppers are starting to come in. Tomato plants are flowering and have green tomatos on them in ever increasing numbers.

Cukes are flowering, beans are about to. I'm fence building the other garden to get ready for late summer/fall crops.

My blackberries have tons of green berries.

But my straw berries suck.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 18, 2026 03:44 PM (UQRAm)

23 But my straw berries suck.
Posted by: Black JEM

Ours sucked this year, too. I think we're done with them.
Kinda like white potatoes. They're cheap at the store. They take WAY more room and effort than they're worth, and the store-bought do.

Posted by: MkY at July 18, 2026 03:48 PM (q6tQZ)

24
Best of Breed for The Big Dummy at today's Beaumont KC show. He's Daddy's good dumb dog.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 03:55 PM (3pDH/)

25 Hadrian the Seventh

Were you able to cash in your favor to the show?

And congrats to TBD and his team.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 18, 2026 04:11 PM (u82oZ)

26 From Boise area: Still HOT. Thunderstorm early Friday morning - other areas got hail, but we were spared that. I dug up all the hyacinths and crocuses in an area we're going to build a French drain in, which left a trench where the arc of hyacinths was; now we have a moat...

Ate the first broccoli this past week - need to eat more this coming week. Green beans are producing steadily. (Zucchini unfortunately producing steadily...) Tomatoes have fruits, but no blushing yet. Too hot for radishes to germinate. Other gardening friends have told me this is a rough year for them too.

I have to do an online entry for the Canyon County Fair soon, if I intend to enter - Husband's going to enter some Homemade Spirits. I should enter Lavender, Carrots, and some herbs. This would be my first year there, so having only a few entries is a good way to dip my toe in. I still have a month before the Western Idaho Fair, to grow my Mega-Zucchini and at least one candidate for Mega-Carrot.

Posted by: Pat* at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM (7uYVO)

Saving the Shire

Hobbitenago, Guatemala

Modern Life Complexities Not Found in the Shire

Pictured above is a hobbit hole in Hobbitenago, Guatemala. It features not only trails with Lord of the Rings kinds of things but also attractions like panoramas featuring volcanoes.

The volcanoes are close enough to be something of a concern. But in the original Shire which inspired this park, they did not have to think about Artificial Intelligence and related electronic complications to life.

This week, I had another odd Social Media Experience. FB sent me a message that one of my friends had a new post. I seldom check this friend's page, and the post turned out to be a slightly snarky article in BlazeMedia by Owen Anderson proposing a thought experiment: What if the commies were right after all? What if the rich folk were the dangerous, permanent oppressors of the world?

He proposed an alternative:

The left condemns concentrated wealth while demanding concentrated political power, the only kind backed by guns, prisons, and law.

He discussed some of his own experiences with leftists and made some suggestions for countering their influence.

Normally, I would not have paid much attention to this piece. But one of my friend's friends, I'll call her "young teacher friend" seemed upset and begged her to learn what democratic socialists believed, "from primary sources".

I looked at Young Teacher Friend's FB page, and it included almost no personal information - just run-of-the-mill memes for leftist causes and a single post - an essay supporting protests by students, including elementary school students. Though she acknowledged the authority of school districts to enforce mandatory school attendance.

My friend expressed surprise that the Blaze piece had shown up on her FB page. I have never seen her post anything political before. And this piece was certainly not her style. How did it get there? Why was I notified of this post? Was Young Teacher Friend also notified? Was the algorithm trying to start a fight?

Anyway, I took it as an opening, and posted the new DSA platform on my friend's page as Young Teacher Friend had suggested (can't get a more primary source than that). I admit that Young Teacher Friend is not the primary intended audience here:

DSA program and platform, July 2026
“DSA has written this program for ending capitalist oligarchy and creating a real democracy. Some of these demands may be won under our current system, but we know complete victory will require building a new society from the ground up. We push these demands to their furthest extent today, so we can fight for their fullest realization in a socialist future. Join us.”
- -
“For the working class to govern, we need a new political system. End political corruption and legalized bribery: get rid of lobbyists, dark money, and Citizens United, and publicly finance all elections. Abolish the Electoral College. Replace the President and Supreme Court with an executive and judiciary chosen by and subordinate to Congress.
Replace the two-party system with a multi-party democracy. Expand the House of Representatives, implement proportional representation and ranked choice voting in all elections, and abolish the Senate.”
https://program.dsausa.org/

If you follow the link, you may be surprised, and maybe a little alarmed, at the simplicity of the language in the entire platform.

Do you think anyone will get the message about what the DSA's real goals are? Why are young people attracted to these failed programs and ideologies?

Absolutely insane:

Two-thirds of Americans don't know who Mao was. Half don't know who Xi is!

It's no wonder Americans tend to be so unconcerned about the rise of China when they know so little! https://t.co/fljCDP7wXz pic.twitter.com/iSHHbg45Qh
— Crémieux (@cremieuxrecueil) July 15, 2026

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Keeping the generations in touch with each other

Johann Kurtz has written an interesting piece which will likely lead to some lively discussion: Young adults are poor despite every metric which suggests otherwise

On the surface it does seem as if the young are fine. Real median incomes are higher than they were for their parents at the same age, unemployment has spent most of the past decade at historic lows, and purchasing power has risen roughly 63 percent since 1973. Televisions, clothing, food, and air travel are cheaper than ever.
And yet this generation is also not marrying, not buying homes, not having children, and seem pretty miserable. I think we’re clearly in the midst of a tremendous measurement failure.

My argument is that previous generations received an enormous stock of social capital: trusted neighbors, functional public schools, a productive courtship culture, predictable career arcs, and a public square in which children could roam and adults could be relied upon. That stock, once given for free, has now been substantially liquidated.

(emphasis mine). So, maybe it really does "take a village". Not just a village that consists of government programs?

What actually got cheaper over the past fifty years? Electronics, entertainment, fast fashion, processed food, toys, screens of every kind. And what got more expensive, usually by many multiples? Housing, education, childcare, healthcare, insurance.
Absurdly, both of these movements register in the statistics as progress: one shows up as asset appreciation and the other as consumer surplus. But the lived reality for families feels like a pincer.
Housing is the least ambiguous case. . .

The entire essay is worth thinking about.

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Saving the Shire

The Secret Anguish of the Median Voter

This is my favorite scene in The Lord of the Rings movies.
The four hobbits are riding home to the Shire, having come through hell and back. Frodo has saved the world at terrible personal cost. Pippin is now a knight, wearing his mail and tunic bearing the White Tree of Gondor. Merry is still dressed as an Esquire of Rohan.
All of them are in outlandish clothes, and laden with exotic treasures of dwarves, elves, and men. They have been utterly transformed by their journey.

But Everard Proudfoot (a contrivance of the film) has not been transformed by their journey. He spent the last year in the Shire, with its ordinary rhythms and expectations, and he thinks they are fucking weird.
It’s a big change from the books of course, where Saruman has brought the conflict home, and the hobbits have to drum him out.
I like both versions of the story — but what I like about the scene in the movie is that Everard Proudfoot represents the totality of their victory. They truly saved the Shire — completely intact, exactly as they left it.

If we win the way we hope to win, all the people who think we are weird and disreputable will have no reason to change their minds. (In fact — as in the film — the way we win may confirm all their suspicions.)
But imagine trying to get Everard Proudfoot to vote to save the world.

A few weeks ago, my wife got her hair done by the Median Utah Voter.
Lately I’ve been using the term “median voter” instead of the n-word (normie) — but in this case I mean it literally.
White, married, middle-class, homeowner, “some college”, late fifties. She lives in a safe neighborhood, where she still sees most of her neighbors at church.
She couldn’t afford her house if she had to buy it now, but she doesn’t have to buy it now. Her husband is closing in on retirement; they saved responsibly, she mostly just cuts hair to have something to do.
She’s not political, except in the ambient sense that she watches the TV news sometimes, and feels bad about the things she’s supposed to feel bad about. She doesn’t like to see people being nasty to each other.
She voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024 (though probably not in 2016), because she’s a Conservative, but she doesn’t like him personally — or at least, she doesn’t like “the way he talks about people.”
When she sees Trump (and Trump surrogates) being harsh and insulting on TV, she thinks about how she tries to treat people — the kind of people she meets in her real life, in her safe neighborhood.
The Mexican guy who fixed her water heater was polite and efficient, and gave her a good price. She did a service project for a refugee charity last Christmas, and seeing those families smile as they got their care packages made her feel really good.
Nothing (in her real life) justifies being Nasty, or Hurting People.
You’re not going to convince this woman of The Big Picture.
There’s no bar graph you can show her that will convince her that her neighborhood is dangerous (it isn’t), or that the contractor who installed her water heater is a threat (he isn’t), or that the refugees at the charity are about to make a fire with her Beautiful Oak Door — they aren’t (at least, not any time soon).
She lives in the real world; she Touches Grass. She isn’t going to care about any of the stuff you care about until she sees it right in front of her physically, and by then it will be way, way too late.
Of course, her moral attention can be redirected parasocially, but not by you — not in the totalizing way that activates a person politically. She’s not going to update her worldview — which, again, is very much wrapped up in her moral attitude toward dozens of real relationships in her real life — because you showed her a meme, or a statistic, or even a lurid atrocity video.

Read the entire essay for more nuance and information about "Median Voter", but the "X" post gets to the nitty-gritty:

“Do you want your grandchildren to be foreigners in their own country?” In political conversations with older people with kids, no other point has shaken them awake quite like this one.
— Theseus' Star Destroyer (@theseus365) July 17, 2026

From the end of the Old Testament:

Malachi's prophecy is literally true
If the hearts of the fathers are not turned to their children & vice versa, nothing will change until the earth is smitten with a curse, & the barbarians are literally, physically at the door

From the essay:

If the Median Voters - - the cozy Everard Proudfoots of the world - - understand themselves as atomized individuals, they will never take action until the earth is smitten with a curse, and the barbarians are literally, physically at their doorstep.
(Again, the individualist frame was inculcated with the express purpose of lowering these defenses.)
The only way to make them see what is coming - - what is, in fact, already happening - - is to turn their hearts to their children.

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Weekend

Congratulations, Duncan. You, as much anyone I know -- more-- were dealt a crappy hand as a working artist, kicked aside by the system, wandered in the wilderness, and are turning it all around in a passionate, winning, meaningful fashion. This is going to be great. https://t.co/dabAX4Nupd
— Walter Kirn (@walterkirn) July 16, 2026

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The Week in Pictures: Don't Get Buffalo'd Edition

Let’s see: Gulf War III is back in full swing, Mitch McConnell has become Schrodinger’s senator, but the biggest stories in America right now are a buffalo trying out to be an NFL placekicker, and Taco Bell deciding that a life-imitating-art menu is the best life after all. Too bad about the Whirled Cup soccer thing, but losing to . . . Belgium? Maybe we can appeal to the Whirled Court. Oh, wait. . .

Music

The Shire

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, July 11, Can we afford utopian education?

Notable comment:

"It's a system built on envy of those who have more than the self-anointed "best and brightest".
And again, here's another quote from F.L. Lucas. I think this guy has potential.
“Thence it is possible to arrive by easy stages at the happy notion, not uncommon among 'intellectuals', that taste consists of distaste, and that the loftiest of pleasures is that of feeling displeased; and thus to end by enjoying almost nothing in literature but one's own opinions, while oneself incapable of writing a living sentence.”
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 11:32 AM

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:23 AM

Comments

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1 hola chamucos y chamucas

Posted by: alpine_beer at July 18, 2026 11:26 AM (van9r)

2 On this day in 1969, Senator Ted Kennedy drove his car off a narrow, unlit wooden bridge on Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts. Kennedy escaped the submerged vehicle, but his passenger, 28-year-old campaign worker Mary Jo Kopechne, died. Kennedy didn't report the accident for another 10 hours.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 11:27 AM (mbiBc)

3 People who never eat evil processed foods die.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:32 AM (4g5V+)

4 Juan Valdez was a hobbit?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 11:33 AM (2WIwB)

5 A question I almost always asked of the communists at school was,

"Why must the working class govern? Maybe they can't govern, as evidenced by their failure in society to...you know...actually govern, or even succeed! Maybe they don't have the intellectual power to lead."

It's a fun fight to start.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 11:34 AM (l4RKn)

6 Why has medical care (look, I cannot, ever, get this “health care” - besides, when was the last time you went to the doc or the ER because you were healthy?) taken off in price? The same reason higher education has. - the illusion of free money from the government. Get the government out of both to the greatest extent possible, watch both collapse in price.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:35 AM (4g5V+)

7 I was curious if the soccer-pimping bot that was here last week will return with lots of pro soccer propaganda. I guess not.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:37 AM (4g5V+)

8 So, basically, the “DSA” wants to make America into a unitary Socialist state like many places in Europe.

Problem is, the European model hasn’t served Europe so well.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:38 AM (4g5V+)

9 Juan Valdez was a hobbit?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 11:33 AM (2WIwB)

Juan Valdez wasn't even Guatemalan!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:39 AM (rbvCR)

10 When did debt become the American dream?

$1/2MM homes, $70K vehicles, and this is before you decide to have children. Longer work hours to cover the debt, more commuting. It really not hard to see why these younger generations are moving in different directions.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 11:40 AM (sYM3s)

11 I was wondering what because of Mr. Duncan’s one act play. That will be awesome. Good to see.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:40 AM (4g5V+)

12 Problem is, the European model hasn’t served Europe so well.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:38 AM (4g5V+)

People like Ursula von der Leyen and other such Eurocrats have been served quite well by this model, and that is what is being sought.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:41 AM (rbvCR)

13 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 11:34 AM (l4RKn)
Lenin made this connection early on and that is why Communism is not Marxism. It's Marxism-Leninism. If the workers are too stupid to gain class consciousness without the vanguard of the intellectual class, how could the workers be intelligent enough to be allowed power after the revolution?

Marx is almost dead. Lenin is stronger than ever.

Posted by: PHustle31 at July 18, 2026 11:41 AM (R86kT)

14 10 When did debt become the American dream?

$1/2MM homes, $70K vehicles, and this is before you decide to have children. Longer work hours to cover the debt, more commuting. It really not hard to see why these younger generations are moving in different directions.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 11:40 AM (sYM3s)

Debt…or lowering what you can get? Why get a $500K home if you can get something half that? Why get a $70K vehicle when you can get one for $15-20K that works as well?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:42 AM (4g5V+)

15 Everyone here is Young Teacher Friend..

Posted by: Reddit at July 18, 2026 11:44 AM (rf/GM)

16 Marx is almost dead. Lenin is stronger than ever.

Posted by: PHustle31 at July 18, 2026 11:41 AM (R86kT)

Absolutely, but the useful idiots who believe in Marxism were and are curiously ignorant of the reality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 11:45 AM (l4RKn)

17 People like Ursula von der Leyen and other such Eurocrats have been served quite well by this model, and that is what is being sought.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:41 AM (rbvCR)

No question. I have no doubt the “DSA” types look at blue collar work or manual labor with nothing but sneering scorn. They could do that, but they want to set up cushy office jobs up for themselves. Hence their love of massive bureaucracies.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:45 AM (4g5V+)

18
I know of Clifton Duncan from X. He's one of those talented, dedicated people who decided to make it as an artist. Moved to New York, waited tables, studied, went to auditions, did a lot of work for free.

He finally made it. Got his big break. Big show. Big time gig. Money. Long run. Was told he had to get the vaxx in order to be in the show. Refused. Go home, buddy.

He went back to waiting on people who fucked his career. Decided to put on his own show about Thomas Sowell and raised money on social media for it.

Incredible guy.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 11:46 AM (mmrXZ)

19 Democracy is idiotic on its face. We’re watching it self destruct in real time. This was both predictable and predicted. “Universal Suffrage” apparently in practice means allowing people - anyone - with no stake in the game to participate, and those at the top and bottom of the social strata have made it abundantly clear they want to destroy this system of democracy by majority vote. How weird is that?

Since said destruction just isn’t happening fast enough, they’ve taken to importing people illegally by the millions who are more amenable to destroying the system.

And “we the people” don’t get to vote on this arrangement amusingly enough, nor will our democratically elected representatives deign to even try and stop it.

Scotty, Beam Me Up!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:48 AM (izaSZ)

20 I know I'm in unsympathetic company. And I loved LoTR as a kid. I used to sit and drink tea while my dad read it to me.

But I've always viewed it as a children's parable, like the Chronicles of Narnia.

It's a childish thing. It outlines some basic archetypes needed for proper social and emotional development. It's not a thing for grownups. I get the same weird vibe from Boomers and GenX who love it as I do from Millennials with their Harry Potter fetish.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 18, 2026 11:50 AM (BI5O2)

21 “Why get a $500K home if you can get something half that? ”

In my city $250k homes don’t exist. Last time they did was maybe 2010 at the bottom of the crash. And even then $250k didn’t get you much.

Posted by: Reality Check at July 18, 2026 11:51 AM (rf/GM)

22 Thx K.T.
I actually did to a friend who's a big lefty whether he wanted his children and grandchildren growing up under the DSA ( our state rep is DSA) . He immediately began rambling about Trump.
The middle class left doesn't even comprehend the cognitive dissonance from which they suffer

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 11:51 AM (OXYE0)

23 Debt…or lowering what you can get? Why get a $500K home if you can get something half that? Why get a $70K vehicle when you can get one for $15-20K that works as well?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:42 AM (4g5V+)

Find a house in your area that is 250 000. Gather 50,000 for the down payment. Imagine paying 2000 a month for that house for 30 years on the remainder.
Your job may go away in five years.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:53 AM (rbvCR)

24 I like looking at houses on Redfin and Century 21.
Century 21 has listings for Argentina too, and you know, the concept of what a proper house should be is very culturally based.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:56 AM (rbvCR)

25 Senator Edward Kennedy didn't even report the fatal incident for another 10 hours
——

1969 was busy. This debacle was overshadowed by the Apollo 11 first landing on the Moon that week. The Manson “Family” murders in LA in August, and the Woodstock hippie disaster in upstate NY. Lots of stuff going on. Capped off with a “Free” Rolling Stones concert out in California.

They then deployed James Taylor and Thorazine to get everyone to mellow out a bit by the 1970s

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:58 AM (izaSZ)

26 I like the towns where the elevation exceeds the population

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:59 AM (izaSZ)

27 Juan Valdez wasn't even Guatemalan!
Posted by: Kindltot
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Next you'll tell me that Iron Eyes Cody wasn't actually an indian...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 11:59 AM (XeU6L)

28 "And the very last end of the war, I hope" said Merry. "I hope so," said Frodo and sighed, "the very last stroke. But to think it should fall here, at the very door of Bag End, among all my hopes and fears at least I never expected that." Return of the King, Chapter 8.

The scene of the four hobbits in the tavern, while showing an optimistic ending, cheats the narrative of its essence--the fight against evil begins and ends at home. The "scouring of the Shire" is an essential part of the book, helping to transform the complacent and passive hobbits. That transformation, of the four Companions as well as much of the Shire's population, is the theme of the book. Leaving it out cheats the viewer.

Posted by: Joe at July 18, 2026 12:00 PM (FBeFb)

29 I'm unavailable for comment.

https://tinyurl.com/23k2fkf6

Posted by: The ghost of MJK at July 18, 2026 12:01 PM (2Ez/1)

30 I like the towns where the elevation exceeds the population
Posted by: Common Tater
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Holding the high ground is fundamental strategy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 12:02 PM (XeU6L)

31 Scripture: Know, love and serve the Lord with all your heart, mind and soul. Love your neighbor as yourself.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 18, 2026 12:04 PM (YlWIZ)

32 I'm unavailable for comment.

https://tinyurl.com/23k2fkf6

Posted by: The ghost of MJK

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Me either.

Posted by: Martha Moxley at July 18, 2026 12:05 PM (XeU6L)

33 Find a copy of A Clockwork Orange with Burgess' final chapter included.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 18, 2026 12:06 PM (YlWIZ)

34 Hard men ( I'm talking about the population as a whole) who built this country had to know who their adversaries were and how those adversaries were planning to take over their freedom. Those hard men created the life of luxury available today to all Americans where they don't have to think about anything except living their best life. That will cause its downfall.

It's a vicious cycle.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:07 PM (/WQyy)

35 @16 I doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital. If they did and had a brain they'd realize what gibberish Marx was peddling

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:08 PM (OXYE0)

36 This is where Isildur lost the ring. See nic.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:11 PM (/WQyy)

37
I'm unavailable for comment.

https://tinyurl.com/23k2fkf6
Posted by: The ghost of MJK

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When Ted Kennedy was alive and my liberal friend adored her, I asked her Well, what about Mary Jo? She'd never heard of the whole thing. Never heard of Chappaquiddick. I told her to look it up. She got back to me and asked me what the fuss was about. It could have been an accident.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 12:12 PM (mmrXZ)

38
adored him*

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 12:12 PM (mmrXZ)

39 Juan Valdez was a hobbit?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 11:33 AM (2WIwB)

Juan Valdez wasn't even Guatemalan!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:39 AM (rbvCR)

Jeez.
That bastard surprised us both!
He's probably an illegal living in Sacramento now.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 12:15 PM (2WIwB)

40 doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital. If they did and had a brain they'd realize what gibberish Marx was peddling
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:08 PM (OXYE

Do 'cliff notes' count because I don't want to be a useful idiot.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:16 PM (/WQyy)

41 They then deployed James Taylor and Thorazine to get everyone to mellow out a bit by the 1970s

But not that mellow much given there were 2200 leftist bombings in a month at one point in the early 70s. The Democrats staged Civil War 2 and nobody noticed / Walter Cronkite didn't think it was news so they won by default and took over the universities. That's how we got Obama.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2026 12:16 PM (QZThv)

42 33 Find a copy of A Clockwork Orange with Burgess' final chapter included.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 18, 2026 12:06 PM (YlWIZ)

I got one. With no glossary.

The copy I read was missing the chapter but had the glossary. (Though I have found if you have a working knowledge of Russian, the glossary is not needed.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 12:17 PM (4g5V+)

43 Next you'll tell me that Iron Eyes Cody wasn't actually an indian...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 11:59 AM (XeU6L)

Doubt he was ever within a thousand miles of Mumbai

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 12:17 PM (rbvCR)

44 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 12:12 PM (mmrXZ

You should have told her the story and substituted Trump for Kennedy. I bet her reaction would be a bit different.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:17 PM (/WQyy)

45 I doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital. If they did and had a brain they'd realize what gibberish Marx was peddling

I may have spotted the flaw in your argument.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 12:18 PM (vTZFs)

46 I doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital. If they did and had a brain they'd realize what gibberish Marx was peddling

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:08 PM (OXYE0)

They had it explained to them by a manipulative cadre chief, and their equally manipulative professors. Plus a compliant media touted the pseudo-socialism of the Scandinavian countries.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 12:19 PM (l4RKn)

47 One of the things that I didn't like Jackson leaving out of LofTR was Merry and Pippen becoming the largest hobbits ever after drinking from the Entwash. Not a huge deal but it shows the impact that the journey had on the two

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:19 PM (OXYE0)

48 I doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital.

Not to mention Marx's personal letters where he's raving about the N-words.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2026 12:19 PM (QZThv)

49
Find a house in your area that is 250 000. Gather 50,000 for the down payment. Imagine paying 2000 a month for that house for 30 years on the remainder.
Your job may go away in five years.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:53 AM (rbvCR)

There are houses in my area that will go for less than $100K. (Which I won’t buy because I know why they are that low: because they are hard to sell to begin with.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 12:20 PM (4g5V+)

50 There’s a fairly scholarly tome written by a guy who posits Marx, who grew up in a reasonably well adjusted family, became heavily involved in occult or satanic devil worship wackery. He was a strange cat.

One glaring difference in the OG Soviet, they didn’t have any illusions about paying people not to work. No “universal basic income” siren song schemes.

They assigned you a job. “Report to Glorious Widget Factory #6” You don’t refuse. Now you might pretend to work while you’re there, while they pretend to pay you, but they sent you off to a Gulag if you refused.

Central Planning! Gotta love it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:20 PM (izaSZ)

51 I'm sure all the idiots who wear the Che" Guevara t-shirt don't have a clue who he really was either.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:22 PM (/WQyy)

52 @51 Che definitely did not think much of the black folks

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:23 PM (OXYE0)

53 One glaring difference in the OG Soviet, they didn’t have any illusions about paying people not to work. No “universal basic income” siren song schemes.

They assigned you a job. “Report to Glorious Widget Factory #6” You don’t refuse. Now you might pretend to work while you’re there, while they pretend to pay you, but they sent you off to a Gulag if you refused.

And that's exactly the attraction for rich Democrats now: you sell it to the unwashed as glorious equality with no work and UBI, but the reality is feudalism where the masses are forced to cower to your every demand. Especially your every weird sex fetish demand.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2026 12:24 PM (QZThv)

54 Coulda been first, but read the contents. Fed the cat. Showered. Read some more content. For over an hour.
Such is life.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 12:24 PM (sl73Y)

55 An entire generation (or two) has gone through academia and been groomed in all things socialist. All the while the names Marx, Mao, etc. are never mentioned and the kids are oblivious to them.

Could their ~~educators~~ indoctrinators have omitted this by design?

Yes, yes they did.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 12:25 PM (jehhT)

56 “It could have been an accident”

It could have been, but that isn’t the point, nothing Kennedy ever said or did after that point made any sense.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:26 PM (izaSZ)

57 I'm sure all the idiots who wear the Che" Guevara t-shirt don't have a clue who he really was either.
Posted by: polynikes

Maybe. A good number of progressives like to play dumb.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 12:27 PM (wOO3z)

58 Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:53 AM (rbvCR)

10% down is usually the number for first time homebuyers. A 225k mortgage would be about 1700-1800 a month plus insurance and property tax. Another 500 a month approximately. That's what a decent 2 bedroom apartment costs .

I honestly don't see any more difficulty I had buying my first house than the difficulty today. It has always been tough and stressful.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:30 PM (/WQyy)

59 Awesome content. I'm only halfway through, butbthisbvaught my eye:

"When she sees Trump (and Trump surrogates) being harsh and insulting on TV, she thinks about how she tries to treat people — the kind of people she meets in her real life, in her safe neighborhood."

From what I've heard, Trump's treatment of the people he reacts with, doorman, waiters, cleaning staff, is stellar. He sees them as resl human beings and engages with them as people. The stories I hear about Kamala and Hillary make me think they would rsther be surrounded by mindless drones with no personal life who are there strictly to don't heir bidding and otherwise disappear.

I could be wrong as most of what Inhear is third-hand knowledge, but I would still much rather be a member of the service industry with Trump as a customer than most other politicians-- or celebrities of any stripe, really.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:31 PM (2RJDy)

60 Maybe. A good number of progressives like to play dumb.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 12:27 PM (wOO3z)

I'm talking about his racism and psychopathic murdering.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:32 PM (/WQyy)

61 30 year low down payment low interest government backed loans were a post World War II creation. Prior to the banking collapse of the 1930s, mortgages were ordinarily 50% down, 7 year notes callable at any time.

Tough row to hoe, but the banks had virtually zero risk exposure, and neither did the homeowner for that matter. This arrangement was a plot line in early Westerns. Widow Jenny is going to lose the ranch, because some sharpy bought the note and is demanding full payment so he can acquire the property.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:35 PM (izaSZ)

62 >>>An entire generation (or two) has gone through academia and been groomed in all things socialist. All the while the names Marx, Mao, etc. are never mentioned and the kids are oblivious to them.

>Don't forget Kant and Hegel when the topic is Marx and Engels. The mindfuck runs deep.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 12:37 PM (sYM3s)

63
Longer work hours to cover the debt, more commuting.

Isn't everybody working from home now?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 12:38 PM (Cqx++)

64 Hillary's treatment of "the help" is abysmal and has been documented over and over. She's a royal bitch of the first order.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 12:38 PM (jehhT)

65 Living within your means is an outdated idea.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:39 PM (/WQyy)

66 Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:31 PM (2RJDy

I get the feeling that when Trump's father taught him about the construction and the real estate business he had him learn about all facets off it and talk to people and get to know them personally . Therefore, he wasn't lording it over people although he expects a well done job and on time. He knows them as individuals and talks to them . I think I read in another context that one of the Secret Service folks said that of all the Presidents he had done security for, Trump may have been the only or one if the few who knew his name and knew about his family. That to me says a lot.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 12:40 PM (jt/rW)

67 Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:31 PM (2RJDy

Oh, sorry. You basically said what I said in your prior post.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 12:42 PM (jt/rW)

68 I have no idea what any of this means nor do I care.I thought you should know this. Happy Trails.

Posted by: Gill Westrum at July 18, 2026 12:43 PM (yqhRp)

69 “From what I've heard, Trump's treatment of the people he reacts with, doorman, waiters, cleaning staff, is stellar. He sees them as real human beings and engages with them as people. The stories I hear about Harris and Clinton ….”

In the .mil I heard all about what it was like working VIP details for the pols. As one might suspect, leftist Democrats are generally total dickheads to work for and treat everyone like shit. GW Bush was pretty decent to work for, Billy Jeff was good too, though decidedly not SWMBO. AlGore was a grade A asshole, and so on.

As the saying goes, you can tell a lot about a person by the way they treat people who can do nothing for them. It’s a character defect, and a disqualifying one to my way of thinking.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:43 PM (izaSZ)

70 I think that's why the "campaign op " of Trump working at McDonalds was so successful. It made him approachable , it seemed down to earth ( I get the sense her really liked meeting the customers and talking with them) and it made Kamala look ridiculous since she had evidently never worked at McDonalds as she had claimed .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 12:48 PM (jt/rW)

71 Living within your means is an outdated idea.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:39 PM (/WQyy)

I am happy to be outdated.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (l4RKn)

72 “Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

73 Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:35 PM

Amazing how much of how we think is based on recent expectations. An older friend, now deceased, was born in a tent outside Las Vegas, where her Dad had a job mining. One of DH's relatives started her married life in a tent in Oildale, CA.

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 12:51 PM (rdeQO)

74 In my city $250k homes don’t exist. Last time they did was maybe 2010 at the bottom of the crash. And even then $250k didn’t get you much.
Posted by: Reality Check at July 18, 2026 11:51 AM (rf/GM)

Then maybe you should get out of that city.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 12:51 PM (1z8ji)

75 Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

I don't not want to be on a first name basis with her nor am I. Just used it as it was the first thing that came to mind rather than Harris.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 12:54 PM (xTinh)

76 72 “Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

Well, I'm certainly not going to render her the unearned respect of referring to her as "Mrs. Harris."

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:55 PM (2RJDy)

77 Posted by: Gill Westrum at July 18, 2026 12:43 PM (yqhRp)

You're welcome. Come again when you can't stay as long.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 12:58 PM (1z8ji)

78 76 72 “Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

Well, I'm certainly not going to render her the unearned respect of referring to her as "Mrs. Harris."
Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:55 PM (2RJDy

How about Doug's wife ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2026 12:59 PM (FtULh)

79 For reasons which remain unclear to me, the US military has taken out the Obama Monument in Chicago. I think we can all agree this is a big one for everyone.

https://tinyurl.com/mvy6wn4h

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2026 12:59 PM (Riz8t)

80 A big "win".

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2026 01:00 PM (Riz8t)

81 I wish the socialism-curious LIVs would just stop and think what would happen if the State were in sole charge of distributing goods and services (supposedly to make things "fair").

What would keep the distributors from being or becoming corrupt? After all, the available resources are going to be passing through their hands.

How does it "expand access" if the access is restricted to government sources? In free markets a person has a chance of finding what they need because there are multiple sources.

What are you going to do about human greed? In free markets, a person who wants more can produce more of something to trade for what they want. In a socialist system, a person who wants more must cheat and steal.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 18, 2026 01:00 PM (OlzlW)

82 “Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

Well, I'm certainly not going to render her the unearned respect of referring to her as "Mrs. Harris."
Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:55 PM (2RJDy

How about Doug's wife ?
Posted by: It's me donna

I've got a few names.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 01:00 PM (wOO3z)

83 It could have been an accident.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at

The ability to justify pretty much anything is an absolute art form. The test is when you substitute a Republican for the dem in question - ex. Can you believe Senator Kennedy from LA let a woman drown? Just left her there? *Que horror, disgusting, he should be in jail from lefty* - proceed to look it up to “find the exact date” oops, my bad. Wrong Kennedy.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (Dd38x)

84 How about Doug's wife ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2026 12:59 PM (FtULh)

I might go with "Willie Brown's side piece."

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (2RJDy)

85
“Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters
Posted by: Common Tater

===============

What on earth are you on about? Kamala. Hillary. Barack. I'm not going to give them any deference or call them by their honorifics. "President Obama"? Hah.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (mmrXZ)

86 >> Living within your means is an outdated idea.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:39 PM (/WQyy)

I am happy to be outdated.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (l4RKn)
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fist bump

It takes discipline.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (jehhT)

87 Why get a $500K home if you can get something half that? ”

In my city $250k homes don’t exist. Last time they did was maybe 2010 at the bottom of the crash. And even then $250k didn’t get you much.
Posted by: Reality Check at July 18, 2026 11:51 AM (rf/GM)

Then move somewhere where good quality can be obtained with much less money. There are places like that. All one needs is the courage to make that decision. Sheesh!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2026 01:04 PM (g8Ew8)

88 Then move somewhere where good quality can be obtained with much less money. There are places like that. All one needs is the courage to make that decision. Sheesh!
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2026 01:04 PM (g8Ew

There is a couple of really nice houses in Edgar NE. No real jobs, but the houses are nice.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:06 PM (rbvCR)

89 Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (jehhT)

Which Gen Z in general doesn't seem to have. They want it all and want it now. That applies to the previous generation also and I see that having some pushback effect on some of the responsible Gen Zers.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (/WQyy)

90 Saying move sounds good until you find there are no employment opportunities in the area.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (abScH)

91 What on earth are you on about? Kamala. Hillary. Barack. I'm not going to give them any deference or call them by their honorifics. "President Obama"? Hah.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (mmrXZ)

That's why we have derogatory nicknames for all these shitmaggots. Kumswalla, Barky, Cthillary, Tampon Timmy, etc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (1z8ji)

92 The amount of credit card debt some people carry is insane. Not to mention having 2+ vehicle payments.

That shit would frighten me.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (+aHIC)

93 There is a couple of really nice houses in Edgar NE. No real jobs, but the houses are nice.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:06 PM (rbvCR)

Details! 😂

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:08 PM (Dd38x)

94 Saying move sounds good until you find there are no employment opportunities in the area.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (abScH)

I completely understand that for families but if you're single, nothing should stop you from taking chances.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 01:09 PM (/WQyy)

95 >>I get the feeling that when Trump's father taught him about the construction and the real estate business he had him learn about all facets off it and talk to people and get to know them personally . Therefore, he wasn't lording it over people although he expects a well done job and on time. He knows them as individuals and talks to them .

There's a video out there somewhere that talks about Donald's early years working for his father. His dad owned apartment building and Trump started literally at the bottom doing things like making sure the laundry rooms were clean and working properly.

There are interviews of tenants from all backgrounds talking about was a kind and respectful young man he was. For all his ego and bluster in his public persona the stories about his kindness and generosity when the cameras aren't on him are probably closer to who he truly is as a person

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:10 PM (viF8m)

96 There are nice houses here, but the jobs are ag and oil. And it's not a place that is likely to ever be trendy, which is why I am here. There are actually a lot of reasonably priced homes in the Midwest. You will never find that on either of the coasts.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 18, 2026 01:11 PM (bkuEU)

97 Saying move sounds good until you find there are no employment opportunities in the area.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (abScH)

One has to move to where the jobs are. Of course, in a boomtown economy, housing my be scarce and expensive, too. Trick is to find one's niche.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:11 PM (1z8ji)

98 Saying move sounds good until you find there are no employment opportunities in the area.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (abScH)

I've moved to places where people say there aren't any jobs. What I've found: There's always jobs if you look hard enough.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2026 01:11 PM (g8Ew8)

99 Trump was also the rent collector. I'm sure that was fun.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 01:12 PM (+aHIC)

100 Time for another cup of coffee.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:13 PM (1z8ji)

101
one of the Secret Service folks said that of all the Presidents he had done security for, Trump may have been the only or one if the few who knew his name and knew about his family.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

==================

And these are the people Hillary would claim to "be down with yo." Hey, I get you. I'm one of you.

Have you ever seen her hanging with anyone but some elite entertainer, media person, millionaire, politician, whatever? I don't think she likes or enjoys those people, either; she needs them as donors, megaphones, image-polishers.

I wonder if there's anyone she doesn't despise, whose company she does more than endure. Maybe her Huma and Chelsea, and that's about it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:13 PM (mmrXZ)

102 The home buying thing is interesting to me- I do think there are people who would like the ability to up and move, job relocation, what have you, and renting makes sense for this situation. I also think there are people who watch way too much HGTV and feel like they need a little more house than they actually do - needs and want are 2 separate things. Would it be nice for all the kids to have their own rooms? Sure! Will they die if they share a room? Nope. Would it be nice to have a gourmet kitchen? Yes! Can you cook on a stove that is white or *gasp* yellow for a few years? Yes. Do we love a big pantry? We do. Can you survive without one? You can.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (Dd38x)

103 polynikes, agreed but having a financial savings safety net to keep one afloat until finding employment, I'm assuming , is not a reality for some.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (abScH)

104 You can do ok for $250K around here and there are plenty of employment opportunities. You could even pick up 50-60 undeveloped acres or so for that.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (MWfyi)

105 Brave AI says 2984 homes are currently listed for sale at 250K or under in LA. They may be shitholes, but I'm not buying that they don't exist, even in the most expensive cities.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (XvL8K)

106 If you listen to Trump when he waxes poetic about something, like what it takes to run a business or fix a car, build a building or whatever... he's knows his shit.

It's not just babble. He actually knows the processes, the skills needed and so on. For all his wealth he's probably the closest to a "blue collar" President we've had in some time.

The cussing helps.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 01:17 PM (jehhT)

107 Oh, and the town has fiber optic, which means I was able to keep working from home when I moved. But there's not a lot in the way of night life.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 18, 2026 01:18 PM (bkuEU)

108
Brave AI says 2984 homes are currently listed for sale at 250K or under in LA. They may be shitholes, but I'm not buying that they don't exist, even in the most expensive cities.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

===============

LA = Los Angeles or LA = Louisiana?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:18 PM (mmrXZ)

109 103 polynikes, agreed but having a financial savings safety net to keep one afloat until finding employment, I'm assuming , is not a reality for some.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (abScH)

You will appreciate this- when I was married to the person we don’t speak of, he was an NCO, we bought an 1800s farm house that looked like an 1800s farm house. It was awful. The washer and dryer was in the den, there was no heat or AC upstairs. The upstairs bath hadn’t been touched since indoor plumbing was invented, and for a long time, the only bathroom that really was workable was downstairs. For 4 of us. Why did we buy this place? Because it had property and the barn was really, really cute. My horses lived better than we did. lol. Priorities.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:19 PM (Dd38x)

110 Brave AI says 2984 homes are currently listed for sale at 250K or under in LA. They may be shitholes, but I'm not buying that they don't exist, even in the most expensive cities.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (XvL8K)

Buy the fixer-upper, the worst home on the block. Put some sweat equity into it, and make it the second-worst. Keep going.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:20 PM (1z8ji)

111 Argument: Young people today are undisciplined and can't pool their money for buying a house, they should buy a cheap house

Counter: cheap houses are not a thing, and a lot of the supply got bought up by people who had houses that they then rent. The rent is reasonable, on the whole, and the owner has no interest in selling. This pushes the supply down, and various other things like zoning and fees keep the new home starts down in markets where there are a lot of starter jobs

Rebuttal: Young people have no discipline, and should sacrifice more.

Kindltot's response: Whatever.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (rbvCR)

112 >>>I wonder if there's anyone she doesn't despise, whose company she does more than endure. Maybe her Huma and Chelsea, and that's about it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia

>I'm hoping that her loss to Trump eats at her blackened soul until the day she dies. Is that wrong?

Hillary will never be president.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (sYM3s)

113 You will appreciate this- when I was married to the person we don’t speak of, he was an NCO, we bought an 1800s farm house that looked like an 1800s farm house. It was awful. The washer and dryer was in the den, there was no heat or AC upstairs. The upstairs bath hadn’t been touched since indoor plumbing was invented, and for a long time, the only bathroom that really was workable was downstairs. For 4 of us. Why did we buy this place? Because it had property and the barn was really, really cute. My horses lived better than we did. lol. Priorities.
Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:19 PM (Dd38x)

LOL.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (g8Ew8)

114 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:13 PM (mmrXZ)

I think she is not at ease with most people. It may be introversion and so needs to have alone time to recharge. She probably has not had a happy life either as a kid or certainly as an adult so it's turned her into a raging narcissist. Having lots of money and privilege has certainly not helped Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (zqeQL)

115 >>The amount of credit card debt some people carry is insane. Not to mention having 2+ vehicle payments.

>>That shit would frighten me.

Kids graduating college with 6 figures of student debt blows my mind. Congratulations! You're screwed.

Someday people will finally start asking why Obama had the federal government take over the student loan industry.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (viF8m)

116 Morticia - Los Angeles. The number for Louisiana, statewide, would probably be in the hundreds of thousands. With some pretty nice ones for 250K.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2026 01:22 PM (XvL8K)

117 Buy the fixer-upper, the worst home on the block. Put some sweat equity into it, and make it the second-worst. Keep going.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:20 PM (1z8ji)

Should they borrow for the money to rebuild the house they are paying the mortgage on? I have 15 grand to redo the plumbing in my house, but I didn't have it when I was 25

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:23 PM (rbvCR)

118 Piper, I live in the barn !

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:24 PM (abScH)

119 There's a big piece of the Mary Jo story you have to keep in mind: timing.
It happened on today's date, the 18th of July.

The very next day a guy by the name of Armstrong stepped off a ladder and sucked all of the oxygen out of our puny little three network broadcast media room.

Ted who?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 01:24 PM (2Ez/1)

120 118 Piper, I live in the barn !
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:24 PM (abScH)

I have seen adorable places in barns. And who wouldn’t want to wake up to everyone nickering? I always pretended it was because they were excited to see me, not the food cart.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:29 PM (Dd38x)

121
>I'm hoping that her loss to Trump eats at her blackened soul until the day she dies. Is that wrong?

Hillary will never be president.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

===============

No, that's not wrong.

"Hillary will never be president" would make a nice bumper sticker.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:30 PM (mmrXZ)

122 Remember, skipping second breakfasts can have shire consequences.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:30 PM (0sNs1)

123 Should they borrow for the money to rebuild the house they are paying the mortgage on? I have 15 grand to redo the plumbing in my house, but I didn't have it when I was 25
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:23 PM (rbvCR)

I used term "sweat equity" for a reason. Don't borrow more money to fix the place up. Do it slowly, using what little surplus cash you may have. Haunt places like the Habitat Re-Store, and buy used fixtures, and appliances, etc. Use the sweat of your brow to make the place better.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:30 PM (1z8ji)

124 The Horse Trailer is the place to be, according to TxMoMe legend.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:33 PM (0sNs1)

125 >>Should they borrow for the money to rebuild the house they are paying the mortgage on? I have 15 grand to redo the plumbing in my house, but I didn't have it when I was 25

AOP reminds me of my dad in a way. He almost never thought about hiring someone to do anything. His first instinct was always, "I can do this myself". Or in my case, "I have built in slave labor, we can do this.".

I was the youngest and about 5 minutes after I graduated high school my folks sold suburbia and moved to Mars and bought an old farm that was originally built around 1800 and hadn't been lived in for over 50 years. There were literally bats living in the place.

People would be surprised what they can do themselves if they actually tried instead of googling for the nearest plumber.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:35 PM (viF8m)

126 whose company she does more than endure. Maybe her Huma and Chelsea, and that's about it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:13 PM

Ahem.

Posted by: Valu-Rite Premium Pour at July 18, 2026 01:35 PM (0sNs1)

127 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:30 PM (mmrXZ)

Someone might do damage to my car if i put that on back on that, I did have a "Keep Christ in Christmas " peel off thing during the Christmas season. I try to stay away from bumper stickers during campaign seasons. The people with the ""F Trump!" And "Are we MAGA yet? I just feel embarrassed" on the back of their cars might take physical offense towards my vehicle .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 01:37 PM (+zjUf)

128 There were literally bats living in the place.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:35 PM

Infinitely better than penguins living in the place.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:37 PM (0sNs1)

129 From all the chatter on official channels, and of course the crap the Iranians are talking, it seems like a better than even chance that they’re gonna do something really, really stupid in the next 2 - 3 days.
Which will force Trump into doing the kind of major attack that he’s been trying to avoid up til now. Oh we’ve been making plenty of attacks, but nothing like we could do if we really get pissed off and serious about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 01:39 PM (AnnNE)

130 >>Infinitely better than penguins living in the place.

If there were horses in Antarctica, my mom would probably chosen that instead. We had to rebuild the barn first because of course.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:39 PM (viF8m)

131 Just used it as it was the first thing that came to mind rather than Harris.
——

Well right, and we’re all susceptible to that, which is my point. It’s pervasive and insidious

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 01:40 PM (xJ+d7)

132 The DSA wants to obliterate anything resembling our federal system and state sovereignty since that might get in their way. They literally want the "elected dictatorship" of a parliamentary system (at least at first) that gives them complete power.

The only thing I partially agree with is that the executive was never intended to be more powerful than Congress. But they want to subordinate *everything* to the legislature and "majority rule" with no checks is just tyranny of the majority let loose.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 18, 2026 01:40 PM (gUs21)

133 Infinitely better than penguins living in the place.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:37 PM (0sNs1)

At least they eat mosquitoes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:41 PM (1z8ji)

134 When I first read that essay about poor young folk, what really struck me was the emphasis on trusted family and neighbors. I think there's something there.

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 01:41 PM (rdeQO)

135 Well right, and we’re all susceptible to that, which is my point. It’s pervasive and insidious
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 01:40 PM (xJ+d7)

There is a distressing tendency to refer to trannies by the wrong (i.e. their preferred, LOL) pronouns. Of course it's policy in the enemedia, but too many people here simply cut and paste, without the obligatory "sic".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:45 PM (1z8ji)

136 Infinitely better than penguins living in the place.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:37 PM (0sNs1)

At least they eat mosquitoes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:41 PM (1z8ji)
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Leopard seals living in the place would eat the penguins.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 18, 2026 01:48 PM (amcLV)

137 My friend's brother graduated from Medical School with a bunch of debt. It was all forgiven because he took a job on a Rez with a $50,000 / year job for two years. That was in 1980. Just outside of Sacramento.

100k in debt from a worthless degree? LOL

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 01:48 PM (qFwJc)

138 “I'm not going to give them any deference or call them by their honorifics”

If I’d suggested that, you might have a point.

Referring to politicians by their first name is “call them by their honorifics”, that’s my point. That’s what they want. See where I’m goin’ with that?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 01:49 PM (xJ+d7)

139 @Sovey is pretty good at number crunching. No idea if she exists

In 1992, the median first-time homebuyer in America was 28.

NAR's latest survey puts that number at 40. The oldest ever recorded.

Twelve years added to the wait, in a single generation. That is not a personality flaw. You cannot budget your way out of twelve years.

The starter home did not get harder to earn. It quietly stopped existing.

THE WRONG VILLAIN

https://tinyurl.com/yc56rjae

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:50 PM (rbvCR)

140 IMHO, the Iranians are threatening a lot of stuff they cannot actually do anymore.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 01:51 PM (qFwJc)

141 Two US service people killed in Jordan, others hospitalized

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 01:52 PM (OXYE0)

142 But I used to read about when all the boomers die, there is going to be a glut of housing on the market.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 01:52 PM (qFwJc)

143 Democracy to me is like a poker game. You have to ante up if you want to have a share of the pot. If you don't ante up you have no say in how the pot is distributed.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 01:53 PM (1vOUV)

144 >>100k in debt from a worthless degree? LOL

And it was entirely predictable once the feds took over the student loan business. In fact, that was the plan.

Young people now bi-curious for socialism/communism because life has become too expensive was always the goal.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:53 PM (viF8m)

145 Democracy to me is like a poker game. You have to ante up if you want to have a share of the pot. If you don't ante up you have no say in how the pot is distributed.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 01:53 PM (1vOUV)
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And then you wait for the other guy to cheat so you can clip him.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 18, 2026 01:55 PM (amcLV)

146 Young people now bi-curious for socialism/communism because life has become too expensive was always the goal.
——-

‘Zackley

“The worse, the better” VI Lenin

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 01:57 PM (xJ+d7)

147 Democracy is idiotic on its face. We’re watching it self destruct in real time. This was both predictable and predicted. “Universal Suffrage” apparently in practice means allowing people - anyone - with no stake in the game to participate, and those at the top and bottom of the social strata have made it abundantly clear they want to destroy this system of democracy by majority vote. How weird is that?...

...Scotty, Beam Me Up!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:48 AM (izaSZ)

The "majority vote" is what destroyed Rhodesia - "The Breadbasket of Africa". The Rhodesians foresaw this but it didn't matter because Jimmy Carter and the communist Labor Party in England decided it was better to virtue signal their "fairness" than to oppose the communist animal Nationalists - backed by the communist animal Soviets and Red Chinese. And today you have Zimbabwe, one of the worst places on earth to live.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:00 PM (1vOUV)

148
In 1992, the median first-time homebuyer in America was 28.

I was 37 when I bought mine. In 1989.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 02:01 PM (Cqx++)

149 Darn... Looks like we've lost 3 soldiers in an attack on a base in Jordan

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2026 02:01 PM (FtULh)

150 I was glad Samwise Gamgee is finally getting laid.
That would be in the extended cut on 4K release.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at July 18, 2026 02:01 PM (DIS3S)

151 >>And today you have Zimbabwe, one of the worst places on earth to live.

I had a customer in South Africa whose family was originally from Rhodesia. They fled rather than get murdered when it turned into Zimbabwe. He and his family are now in Australia.

Lots of people think it could never happen here. It can happen here.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 02:06 PM (viF8m)

152 Lots of people thought it could never happen here. That was a while ago.

Lots of those swme people are wondering now “how do we stop it from happening”.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:11 PM (xJ+d7)

153 Sinclair Lewis wrote a book about that.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 02:12 PM (abScH)

154 The DSA wants the US to be like France and UK combined. National Assembly. No Bill of Rights. No restrictions on the power of the govt.

Full-blown Soviet Russia.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 02:12 PM (qFwJc)

155 ...Lots of people think it could never happen here. It can happen here.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 02:06 PM (viF8m)

There's a great essay at American Greatness - "We are all Rhodesians Now". I'd give the link but I'm too inept at doing it. Pixy keeps rejecting it.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:14 PM (1vOUV)

156 NAR's latest survey puts that number at 40. The oldest ever recorded.

Twelve years added to the wait, in a single generation. That is not a personality flaw. You cannot budget your way out of twelve years.

The starter home did not get harder to earn. It quietly stopped existing.

https://tinyurl.com/yc56rjae
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:50 PM (rbvCR)

worse? With the standard 30 year loan, that means you pay off you Home at age 70? You know, years after the normal retirement age? How the hell does that work?

They have created a perpetual Debt situation for most real estate... someone will always have an active loan on it, paying interest to? Oh... Banks...

And it is total debt through Fractional Lending, that creates the money stream that drives inflation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 02:19 PM (mP0Kj)

157
Darn... Looks like we've lost 3 soldiers in an attack on a base in Jordan
Posted by: It's me donna

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Well that's it then. Rain hell on them like they've never seen it before. Come on, Mr. President.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 02:19 PM (mmrXZ)

158
The starter home did not get harder to earn. It quietly stopped existing.

Posted by: Kindltot

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I haven't looked at all the numbers or the whole story, but we've talked about this here. A "starter home" to the previous generation was a small old thing in a safe but humble neighborhood. A "starter home" to people on the Caleb Hammer podcast is a brand-new, gleaming, two-story spread like they grew up in. Caveat: I'm not sure how representative his guests are of real working couples trying to get started in life now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 02:25 PM (mmrXZ)

159 Carter and Rhodesia. That’s why I can’t reallly ascribe good motivations to guys like him. He wasn’t demonstrably stupid, consequently he had to known what the end result would ultimately be, which was demonstrably stupid.

Rhodesia was s net exporter of food. Zimbabwe can’t feed itself. Pretty much job 1 for a government. At least get the fuck out of the way.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:27 PM (xJ+d7)

160 Transportation costs a fair bit more, because while cars are a lot more reliable and require less maintenance, they are sophisticated. $100 bought a decent used car for many years. Not anymore, not adjusted for inflation, by any measure they are pretty expensive.

Younger generations often don’t even want a car, and given the cost, hassles, insurance, etc it’s understandable.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:30 PM (xJ+d7)

161 I just thought of something. We might talk about “turning up the heat” in the winter. But the converse isn’t true. I’ve never heard anybody say “Turn down the cold” for air conditioning. Maybe?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:36 PM (xJ+d7)

162 Carter and Rhodesia. That’s why I can’t reallly ascribe good motivations to guys like him. He wasn’t demonstrably stupid, consequently he had to known what the end result would ultimately be, which was demonstrably stupid.

Rhodesia was s net exporter of food. Zimbabwe can’t feed itself. Pretty much job 1 for a government. At least get the fuck out of the way.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:27 PM (xJ+d7)

Perhaps not demonstrably stupid, but demonstrably - and dangerously - naive. Remember he gave us the Ayatollah when he refused to back the Shah (who was our strongest ally in the region). And he gave away the Panama Canal; And he gave us Desert 1. The list goes on and the more I think about it, I do think he was stupid.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:39 PM (F8tLW)

163 Chairborne, and those were just his foreign policy disasters.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 02:43 PM (abScH)

164
There's a great essay at American Greatness - "We are all Rhodesians Now". I'd give the link but I'm too inept at doing it. Pixy keeps rejecting it.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above!

https://t.ly/EgPaW

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 02:45 PM (Cqx++)

165 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 02:45 PM (Cqx++)

Thanks for that. You are more ept than I.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:47 PM (F8tLW)

166 Forget the 30 something middle class, embrace the 21st century robber barons of real estate for the new age. A lifetime of debt, and student loan payments for your children until you're 60. That's the dream.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 02:53 PM (sYM3s)

167 Chairborne, and those were just his foreign policy disasters.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 02:43 PM (abScH)

Yes, he was a fool. All around. And remember he also got a Nobel Piss Prize. Which, in my case, convinced me that those a-holes in Stockholm were worthless fools too...even before they gave one to Barky.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:54 PM (F8tLW)

168 If you're going to refer to Malachi, at least do God's Word justice. This, like many other verses, requires not only a proper version but also context. In this instance, context requires, at minimum, the previous verse.

Malachi 4:5-6

5 - Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 - And he shall turn the heart of the father's to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 18, 2026 02:55 PM (dAv7M)

169 The DSA wants the US to be like France and UK combined. National Assembly. No Bill of Rights. No restrictions on the power of the govt.

Full-blown Soviet Russia.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 02:12 PM

The difference is that this time, the right people will be in charge.

/sarc

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 03:17 PM (0sNs1)

170 The list goes on and the more I think about it, I do think he was stupid.
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No, this is my point.

If he was merely incompetent or naive, then by the law of averages once in a while he would have made beneficial mistakes. That never happened.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 03:24 PM (xJ+d7)

171 No, this is my point.

If he was merely incompetent or naive, then by the law of averages once in a while he would have made beneficial mistakes. That never happened.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 03:24 PM (xJ+d7)

Agreed.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 03:34 PM (F8tLW)

172 Carter was a well-meaning fool.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 03:43 PM (qFwJc)

173 Well meaning....no
fool.....yes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 03:44 PM (wOO3z)

174 TeeJ at July 18, 2026 02:55 PM

Thanks for the scriptural context. That's the version I've typically heard and read.

Bible Gateway says: Malachi 4:6 New International Version 6 He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the hearts of the children to their parents; or else I will come and strike the land with total destruction."

Pretty strong.

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 03:52 PM (rdeQO)

175 Your translations are crap:

"In that day saith the Lord, I will gather up her that halteth; and her that I cast out. I will gather up: and her whom I had afflicted."

"and I will make her that halteth a remnant, and her that hath been afflicted , a mighty nation. And the Lord will reign over them in mount Sion, from this time now and forever."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 04:05 PM (qFwJc)

176 Gen Z is far too spoiled to live within their means.

They spend six figures on a wedding and whine about not having a brand new house in the Hamptons and a beach house on the Cape.

They never shared a one bedroom apartment amongst three people or rode public transport or worked more than one job at a time while
Going to school.

If the internet isn’t fast enough the world is over.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 18, 2026 04:06 PM (yEz+x)

177 168> Malachi 4:5-6

Just by adding context, and skipping the Dispensational wresting of it, this is an expression of God's desire for restoration, not judgement.

The traditional view is that this was fulfilled with John the Baptist. See Matthew 11:4 and 17:12 or jump straight to Luke 1:17 which links directly to Malachi 4:6

Posted by: Community Notes at July 18, 2026 04:08 PM (pawvM)

178 The starter home did not get harder to earn. It quietly stopped existing.

It exists in the form of

Because of Section 8 and catering to low-trust cultures, those would-be starter home neighborhoods are crime-ridden slums where few people have any eye for aesthetics or understanding of improving, yet alone maintaining their dwellings.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 18, 2026 04:20 PM (PVBkQ)

179 Please send prayers for my grandson Daniel and his wife Madison. He is deployed in Jordan, safe at this moment, and she is getting studies for possible inflammatory breast cancer. I need them both, for continuity of care for my wife. Thanks, dear friends.

Posted by: Buck Ofama, K4WTJ at July 18, 2026 04:22 PM (z6ONu)

180 Posted by: Buck Ofama, K4WTJ at July 18, 2026 04:22 PM (z6ONu)

Done my friend.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 04:33 PM (F8tLW)

181 - Community Notes

The traditional view? It's traditional for the preterists. A view that didn't even get put into any kind of lengthy writing/book form until the early 1600's.

When John the Baptist was asked if he was Elijah his answer was no.
When our Lord was asked His reply was he is, if you will accept it. He knew they wouldn't.

Most people, when they refer to "dispensationalism," are speaking about a form of it held by those who push the pre-trib doctrine of the rapture. A straw man that is easily knocked down.

As easily as both partial and full preterism are.

Our Lord will return and remove His church to safety at some point during the 2nd half of Daniel's 70th week. That 7 year period Daniel spoke of in 9:27 has not yet occurred. We are now in the time of the last phrase of 9:26. "...and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

No one stood in the temple and declared himself to be God in 70AD. 2Thess 2:1-4.
A time of great tribulation (thlipsis - pressure) has not come upon the entire world. A time when no man could buy or sell without taking the mark of the beast.

Cont-

Posted by: TeeJ at July 18, 2026 06:24 PM (dAv7M)

182 Continued -

Historic dispensationalism is two ages. This current evil age and the Kingdom Age to come.
You know, that first request in the Lord's prayer.

To save myself any more one finger typing on this here phone I'm going to suggest a vid for you.
On utube, search "the problems with preterism Dr Michael Weis"

God bless

Posted by: TeeJ at July 18, 2026 06:29 PM (dAv7M)

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