1 Sponge!

2 FIRST!!!!!

3 Yessss!!!!!

I'll cull the otters.

4 Otter status: Culled.

5 Sorry, Sponge. But at least it was me and not Elric.

6 Tariffs ftw. More please.

7 Where is everyone this morning?

8 Since when have you advocated for a free market?

9 And they're almost always from Guangzhou. Must be a major manufacturing hub in CHY-na.

10 I got some Chinese gummies for low T and now I'm sporting a mohawk and a hankering for gold chains.

11 Sorry, Sponge. But at least it was me and not Elric.
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:03 AM (77rzZ)

Anyone claiming a first other than Sponge is peddling counterfeit goods.

12 We purchase less and less through Amazon because of this problem. It's really blatant too.

13 Whenever I criticize a large corporation, I get accused of being a socialist or a “Bernie Bro” by the libertarian, “free-traders” who conflate corporatism with capitalism.

The libertarian, “free-traders” who conflate corporatism with capitalism are pretty bad at libertarianism also since it's always been recognized that combating fraud is a legitimate activity for the state and, consequently, corporations, large or small, should be punished for failing to rein it in.

14 It’s all fake and gay.

These are just trans-products. How dare you question their identity, bigot.

15 I had my boss order a $100 CNC benchtop lathe.
Unheard of.
$100?
Mostly so I can CSI it and see what actually shows up.

16 How long until a federal judge tells Trump he's not allowed to do this?

17 My first clue should have been the brand name. "I Pity The Fool".

18 Thx Buck, sorry to hear about the fraud.
A question: has anyone ever shown by scientifically valid tests, that supplements, including vitamins actually work? I take a multivitamin every day but who knows?

19 It's got electrolytes. Plants love it.

20 I order my viagra online from some shadeball prescription website.

It always comes in a plain brown envelope with the return address 6899 Chao Ngo Road, Municipal 2, Ban Phai, Khon Kaen, 2nd Floor Balcony Stairs, 40110, THA.

Very legitimate.

21 eff, amazon can't even get stuff shipped on time, expecting anything higher-level is just optimism (in its perjorative sense).

also, they increasingly seem to be using vibe-coded slop in their own storefront application - things that used to work don't anymore.

22 For those of us who advocate for a free market in an economically sovereign United States, we see the threat that arises from corporations engaging in willful blindness to counterfeiting and consumer fraud, especially when it benefits foreign adversaries.

Amazon gets away with a lot because I think most people assume an outfit as big as theirs is beyond cheating, but it is not so. There is an almost perfect parallel to Jason Arday and Cambridge (really all elite universities), who proomise superior academics but provide counterfeit garbage. Both involve a willful suspension of disbelief.

23 The avocado oil is also counterfeit.

https://tinyurl.com/yez6y33c

24 It’s all fake and gay.

These are just trans-products. How dare you question their identity, bigot.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2026 11:06 AM (h8SbW)

Trans-OEM parts are REAL OEM PARTS!

25 Imma get a linear amplifier for mah CB laptop for every first snd blow yer doors off. Teeyun four.

26 This is about me, isn't it?

27 Next you bigots will be calling trans women, counterfeit women.

Wait, I kinda like that. I think will start doing that.

28 “sichuanzhongchuangqifuxinxikejiyou xianongsi.”

Gesundheit. Maybe you should see a doc, Buck.

29 Ipitidaful
Do not take Ipitidaful if you are allergic to Ipitidaful.

30 lol, fd, I thought that was gonna be about a guitar!

31 The libertarian, “free-traders” who conflate corporatism with capitalism are pretty bad at libertarianism also since it's always been recognized that combating fraud is a legitimate activity for the state and, consequently, corporations, large or small, should be punished for failing to rein it in.

A free market assumes the participants have perfect information about the product. If a company is pushing fraudulent products, you don't generally have that information, and can't make informed decisions.

32 Even the “genuine” product is suspect. What are you buying, and where was it manufactured? Contaminated baby formula and dog food some years back should have raised red flags. Everyone learns at their own pace I guess.

33 When I hear, “protein gummies”, i immediately think of horse hooves.

34 linear amplifier for mah CB laptop
_-_
Watch where you put the antenna - boil the liquid inside yer eyeball, it will...

35 it is really all the same people and the same wilful stupidity all the way down, innit, Archimedes? good comparison.

36 You should reverse the arrow on "counterfeit" logo so it goes from "f" to "o."

37 Next you bigots will be calling trans women, counterfeit women.

Wait, I kinda like that. I think will start doing that.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2026 11:08 AM (h8SbW)

Counterfeit woman -- stay away from mee-eee.
Counterfeit woman - cuz you stand when you pee-eee.

38 also, they increasingly seem to be using vibe-coded slop in their own storefront application - things that used to work don't anymore.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 17, 2026 11:07 AM (VyBeY)

Interestingly, when I go to their website it pegs one of my CPUs at 100% but, when I go to the website in incognito mode, it does not. It doesn't appear to be either reading or writing to disk and my memory isn't increasing so it's just burning cycles over nothing.

39 had my boss order a $100 CNC benchtop lathe.
Unheard of.
$100?
——-

The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.

40 almost always from Guangzhou. Must be a major manufacturing hub in CHY-na."

Port city....

41 They used our bought-off government to set up a CCP listening post less than a block away from the White House.

Do you think these same """American""" """authorities""" will Crack down on their paymasters for selling knockoff GoPros?

*rolls eyes*

42 I used to get a 96 count box of a variety of Community Coffee's offerings via Amazon. 4 different blends. They stopped carrying it last year. It was sort of a weird package; plain box with loose K-Cups; 24 each.

They were post "sell by date."

Not that I could tell the difference, but...

43 When I hear, “protein gummies”, i immediately think of horse hooves."

J -E- llo!

44 The problem with Amazon is that the benefits it gains from what it does does not equal the costs, risks, and externalities to itself. They take a cut from merchants for being a platform for selling, even for fraudsters. But the cost from selling fraudulent items isn't really borne by them. They got their money upfront.

The same issue is with all the telecommunication companies that allow spam and scam calls on their phone lines, along with faked Caller ID data. Scammers could (still can?) literally call your phone number, with your own phone # as the ID. Or fake real numbers to try and improve the scam (hurting the true and real people owning those #'s).

Even if the phone companies made a fraction of a cent per call to connect them to you, how many millions of scam calls were going on in a single day? Doesn't matter to them if your aunt or grandmother became penniless because of scammers. They got their fraction of a penny. All the benefits, but no cost for the phone companies. Why would they improve the system, add proper security, when that would only add cost... and lower revenues, thanks to less fake calls they would get paid for?

45 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 11:14 AM

You are definitely 29.

46 How many items at brick and mortar stores are fake?

47 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard!

I really liked my x-ray specs until I stumbled into a DSA meeting. Yikes!

48 was sort of a weird package; plain box with loose K-Cups; 24 each."

Yeah. Kidlet bought a spool of braid fishing line with a "similar" brand name. First time he used it the color washed off the line onto his hands...

49 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 11:14 AM


And the sea monkey queen was definitely not as hot as advertized.

50 > The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 11:14 AM
---------
Yea, about those Sea Monkeys. They don't look anything like "monkeys."

51 Chinee drywall filled with caustics and poisons was 25 years ago. They been poisoning us ever since.

52 dangerous ingredients, including hidden pharmaceuticals, allergens, and heavy metals.

Anyone else remember melamine in Chinese milk? (It was 18 years ago.)
The contaminated drywall was 20 years ago.

Here's Brave AI's synopsis of the last couple of years:
Recent reports from 2025 and 2026 highlight ongoing scandals involving bleached chicken feet, smelly insoles used in snacks, and foreign objects like human teeth found in sausages.

Admittedly, that last one isn't just a Chinese problem. (Amy's, I'm looking at you.)

53 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 11:14 AM

Yoo-hoo!

54 Bezos builds rockets that look like cock.

He doesn't care as long as he gets more of your money.

This is obvious.

55 Lead paint in kids toys, lead in dog food.....

56 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 11:14 AM


The x-ray glasses didn't work either.

57 bleached chicken feet, smelly insoles used in snacks, and foreign objects like human teeth found in sausages
_-_
Ach! I think I'll go see what I have in my garden...is it rabbit season yet? No? Have to wait for a freeze, huh?

58 Are you saying I was a disappointment?

59 The Gormogons
@Gormogons
58m
GP Tax burrito wealth, starting with the evil Chipotle family which cornered the burrito market and is holding Americans hostage.

No salsa, no peace!
Aug 17, 2026 · 1:50 PM UTC

60 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 11:14 AM (Vsbiz)

I'm excited in exactly the same way. A known let down.
What I need it for will tolerate loose tolerances though.
As long as it can make them close enough and not have to stand there and turn each one it's a win.
If it's worth a damn I may order one for my shop.

61 In response to last thread's shorts controversy:

https://tinyurl.com/4749tdp5

62 Imported Rawhide chew toys for doggies poisoned many as well.

63 Did anyone order a subscription to Grit?

64 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater


F'n sea monkeys didn't look like monkeys!

65 I mean, c'mon... the Chinese don't even have to bother with the formal niceties of embassies and consulates, or the less-formal skullduggery of agents in various businesses to cover their agents anymore. We'll just sell a multi-story suite right in the heart of our capital to their agents, in the clear.

A bought-off flag officer in this country, the top one, in fact, recently wrote a book bragging about the fact that he had a higher loyalty to Peking than to his own troops.

They're more a part of our government than we are anymore. The idea that the Chinese would have to comply with consumer protection regulations is laughable, my dude.

66 When I hear, “protein gummies”, i immediately think of horse hooves."
J -E- llo!
Posted by: man at August 17, 2026 11:15 AM (cGjQu)

Boiled down hagfish skins, my friend.

67 Even the product on the right with almost identical packaging is likely a counterfeit

One thing to consider on what packages look like: companies change their packages. And you might be looking at a new package, or (perhaps) an old package that has been sitting in a warehouse for a long time. Or, it might just be a different version of a product - say, the 20mg version instead of the 50mg version, or the European market product instead of the US market one.

Having to try and figure that out is part of the problem.

68 A bought-off flag officer in this country, the top one, in fact, recently wrote a book bragging about the fact that he had a higher loyalty to Peking than to his own troops.

YD, was that Milley?

69 Beware of any liquid claiming to have fiber - and also many "nutrition" supplements.

Because more often than not it's liquid fiber ie cheapass gut busting inulin (not insulin) aka chicory root fiber.

If you see that in the ingredients, steer clear. More than once in the past I thought I was in a Crohns mini-flare only to find I had been eating something with inulin or chicory root. Stuff is straight from hell, and they are putting it in everything.

70 I got some Chinese gummies for low T and now I'm sporting a mohawk and a hankering for gold chains.
Posted by: fd - I forgive you for the mistakes I made at August 17, 2026 11:05 AM (MWfyi)

So, you just assumed they misspelled "more" on the package when it said "Mr T"?

71 Stuff is straight from hell, and they are putting it in everything.
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 11:25 AM (rJIHE)


I still think you need to explain your sudden cock obsession......

72 What I want to know is the increase in food or recalls increasing or is that just the perception.

There is almost a new recall daily it seems. One thing I used to have was high trust in our food distribution system and FDA oversight. No longer.

73 A free market assumes the participants have perfect information about the product. If a company is pushing fraudulent products, you don't generally have that information, and can't make informed decisions.
Posted by: Archimedes

Most modern libertarians outside of the von Mises faction are grossly deficient in actually knowing economic theory as well as political theory. They are a flavor of leftism that like to take drugs, be perverts, and other anti social behavior. Do as Thou Wilt basically.

74 YD, was that Milley?
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:25 AM (77rzZ)

Yes.

He bragged that he kept a back channel to the CCP so that he could warn them in real time if Trump ordered military action against China - IOW, when his own forces were being deployed.

75 The little green Army men didn't have any cool vehicles or weapons either.

And they were flat. And the gun barrels were all bent.

76 Supplements are tricky, and I wouldn’t risk them from Amazon unless directly sold though Wholefoods and they are a brand you know. I get free things all the time to try and they hope pitch on my instagram or in studio. Somethings really are better than others, and if I am going to continue with something that was outstanding, I just order directly from the manufacturer site.

77 How long until a federal judge tells Trump he's not allowed to do this?
Posted by: NR Pax at August 17, 2026 11:06 AM (OPGS/)

Anyone want to put money on "By the time Ace's first post shows up"?

78 Chicory can be used as a substitute for coffee, no?

79
He bragged that he kept a back channel to the CCP so that he could warn them in real time if Trump ordered military action against China - IOW, when his own forces were being deployed.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2026 11:27 AM (BI5O2)



Seems treasonous........

80 Chicory can be used as a substitute for coffee, no?
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:28 AM (77rzZ)


If you desire exploding diarrhea, it seems.

81 78 Chicory can be used as a substitute for coffee, no?
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:28 AM (77rzZ)

It does not taste like coffee. I like it in coffee, but you definitely taste it. Some people like it, others do not.

82 Even if the product is made in U.S.A., the ingredients oftentimes are not. No telling what they might be adulterated with.

83 Supplements are tricky, and I wouldn’t risk them from Amazon unless directly sold though Wholefoods and they are a brand you know. I get free things all the time to try and they hope pitch on my instagram or in studio. Somethings really are better than others, and if I am going to continue with something that was outstanding, I just order directly from the manufacturer site.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 11:27 AM (ZdaMQ)


I use Swanson brand supplements. No, not the TV Dinner company. Swansonvitamins dot com.

Get my NAC from them along with a few other things.

84 The little green Army men didn't have any cool vehicles or weapons either.

And they were flat. And the gun barrels were all bent.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

My neighbor ordered those. They were the rejects from the injection molding plant.

85 GP Tax burrito wealth, starting with the evil Chipotle family which cornered the burrito market and is holding Americans hostage.

If only making a burrito didn't require billions of dollars worth of high-tech burrito robots.

86 You're all making me paranoid. And I made a comment on yesterday's FWP thread about being amazed I could get pretty large KitKat and CoffeeCrisp bars for $0.99 Can at the dollar store.

Heh. Some guy just won an 8 or 9 foot tall Bigfoot statue on 'The Price is Right.' $5489 Dang.

87 72 What I want to know is the increase in food or recalls increasing or is that just the perception.

There is almost a new recall daily it seems. One thing I used to have was high trust in our food distribution system and FDA oversight. No longer.
Posted by: purple hair fat chick

You can't have that because a) globo homo wants to source cheap so they can maximize profits and if cheap means hiring illegals for food processing that don't have a culture of basic hygiene, so be it. And b) they buy off regulators and politicians to protect them from the inevitable consequences.

In the case of Big Pharma, they buy off the media too by running insipid ads on TV--it is not so much to drive consumer demand but rather is a cudgel to keep the media from taking the side of the people rather than the corporate Pharma assholes.

88 Anyone want to put money on "By the time Ace's first post shows up"?
Posted by: GWB

To be honest, I'm surprised no court has ruled Trump's existence is a constitutional violation yet.

89 One thing to consider on what packages look like: companies change their packages. And you might be looking at a new package, or (perhaps) an old package that has been sitting in a warehouse for a long time. Or, it might just be a different version of a product - say, the 20mg version instead of the 50mg version, or the European market product instead of the US market one.

Having to try and figure that out is part of the problem.
Posted by: GWB


Sam's is on their third packaging revamp in less than a year of their real bacon pieces. Makes it hard to find when you are looking for an old package.

90 Off woke sock

91 so it's just burning cycles over nothing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 17, 2026 11:13 AM (ExV1e)

It's burning cycles putting cookies on your machine.

92 Bottom story of the day:

How will SNAP be impacted by a penny-less world?

93 If you see that in the ingredients, steer clear. More than once in the past I thought I was in a Crohns mini-flare only to find I had been eating something with inulin or chicory root. Stuff is straight from hell, and they are putting it in everything.
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 11:25 AM (rJIHE)

It is cheap and easy to get, no other use for it really, and surprisingly most North American "native root crops" are full of it. It will make you swell up like a toad and fart yourself inside out if you are not one of the lucky ones who can tolerate it. Most probiotics use it as an ingredient because it is very good media for growing gut bacteria and even such high end probiotics like Pendulum use minute amounts.
Just Thrive has a Pre-Biotic fiber that doesn't use it, that they suggest to go along with their probiotic, and it doesn't have any inulin.

94
To be honest, I'm surprised no court has ruled Trump's existence is a constitutional violation yet.
Posted by: NR Pax at August 17, 2026 11:31 AM (OPGS/)


Workin' on it......

95 Chicory is not really a substitute for Coffee, it doesn’t contain Caffeine. I guess it might be an alternative though not a very good one. Civil War ersatz, because of the Union blockade. The Rebs were forced to try and roast acorns and crap like that.

96 still think you need to explain your sudden cock obsession......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 11:27 AM (2YhKe)

I *never* explain a joke but also it was "meta commentary" on how upset people get about other people's opinions.

Let's say I like to brush my teeth with super glue. Someone comes along pounding their fist, "these god damn super glue tooth brushers!!! Fuck them!!!".

Honestly who gives a shit. Like why would I give a fuck what you or anyone thinks. I don't need you to "accept" my way of brushing teeth? I don't give a fuck.

Equally... you got a tattoo? Great. Did you REALLY think no one was gonna have an opinion on it? Is it really someone else's business? Well kind of. You made a statement. Own it. It's just like my adoration of a nice healthy engorged cock.

97 82 Even if the product is made in U.S.A., the ingredients oftentimes are not. No telling what they might be adulterated with.
Posted by: Common Tater
=======
Completely natural fillers like melamine, arsenic, ground glass, and the ever popular cellulose.

98 The best toy soldiers were made of lead.

99 You dear sweet summer child, you are not the customer

100 Remember when the Chinese killed a bunch of American dogs because they didn't know you couldn't use melamine in the dog food product/process.

101 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater
~~~~~

And that Treasure Chest full of little green army men...Yeah, they were two dimensional.

102 Chicory can be used as a substitute for coffee, no?
Posted by: Bulg


It was during the civil war, when supply lines were disrupted.

103 Or fake real numbers to try and improve the scam
Posted by: Another Anon at August 17, 2026 11:15 AM (4h45B)

The ones I've gotten for the last almost year have mostly been 800 range numbers. I just cleared 20 voicemails, of which 15+ were from 800 numbers. None of which I can see have been repeated.

104 Workin' on it......
Posted by: Lord God King Boasberg

I'm sure there are a lot of people who would squeal like Japanese schoolgirls if that happened.

105 It's just like my adoration of a nice healthy engorged cock.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 11:32 AM (rJIHE)/i]


Whell, you go enjoy that cock...Imma go have a beer.

106 Being in Chipotle is like being inside a tin can with a bunch of people yelling. I can make a better burrito at home for less than tree-fiddy anyway...

107 102 Chicory can be used as a substitute for coffee, no?
Posted by: Bulg


It was during the civil war, when supply lines were disrupted.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 17, 2026 11:33 AM (0U5gm

We use it here still in our coffee, same with LA.

108 Chicory is not really a substitute for Coffee, it doesn’t contain Caffeine. I guess it might be an alternative though not a very good one. Civil War ersatz, because of the Union blockade. The Rebs were forced to try and roast acorns and crap like that.
Posted by: Common Tater


Community Coffee with Chicory has entered the chat.

109 I'm still a thing.

110 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater
~~~~~

And that Treasure Chest full of little green army men...Yeah, they were two dimensional.

Posted by: IrishEi?!

Don't get me started about the "X-Ray Glasses"...

111 Chicory can be used as a substitute for coffee, no?
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:28 AM (77rzZ)

It is an additive to "stretch" coffee, but Cafe du Monde has it as an ingredient, and it gives it a nice bitter taste that goes well with Vietnamese food, I have found. Especially the high garlic-high chili foods. Nom.

WWII German re-enactors love it because the German coffee ration had lots of chicory in it, and supposedly you can "moderate" the bitterness by hanging it in a canvas bag under shelter from the rain for a week or two

112 Does. Chicory have caffeine? If not it's of no use as a substitute.

113 Shake it, Shake it, Chicory!

114 Chicory can be used as a substitute for coffee, no?
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:28 AM

Cafe du Monde ftw!

115 Remember when the Chinese killed a bunch of American dogs because they didn't know you couldn't use melamine in the dog food product/process.
——

Baby formula as well.

It is not that they “didn’t know”, far from it, Melamine spoofs electronic detector probes into indicating bulk shipments have a higher percentage of protein than it really does. Gets a better price that way.

116 100 Remember when the Chinese killed a bunch of American dogs because they didn't know you couldn't use melamine in the dog food product/process.

___

The Chinese government executed 10 management level employees for the fiasco. The Americans involved in importing the deadly dogfood only took a hit to their stock portfolio.

117 Related Amazon problem: I search for a specific brand item, and Amazon refuses to show it to me, even though I know they sell it. Instead I get endless Chinese knockoffs that are "sponsored." I hate it.

118 I still order my Bag O' Glass and General Trahn's Secret Police Confession Kit from Mainway Toys outta Chicago.

119 Being in Chipotle is like being inside a tin can with a bunch of people yelling. I can make a better burrito at home for less than tree-fiddy anyway...

My family has learned that I will not eat at restaurants with the "louder is better for some reason" approach. It absolutely baffles me. Yes, it's nice to convey that other people think the restaurant is great, and noise suggests business, but there's a limit.

If I can't hear the person next to me, I'll go elsewhere.

120 New Orleans style Community Coffee coffee & Chicory:

https://tinyurl.com/48m3p74w

121 How many people right now are logging into Amazon and looking up the number of hits they get when they search for snake oil?

122 We got chicory growing all over the place here in NoVa. Very common weed.

123 Whell, you go enjoy that cock...Imma go have a beer.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 11:34 AM

Vintage Eddie Murphy. Nice.

124 There is a guy on Youtoob who makes his shop tools from designs in old Popular Mechanics magazines.
Some of the stuff is pretty cool. I'm going to someday do the 20 ton arbor press I saw him do.

125 The only thing not tool related I have ever bought from Amazon was a Kambucha SCOBY that I used for a number of years before I gave up making Kambucha at home.

126 noise suggests business
_-_
I have always thought they did that to get people out faster. Hadn't thought about the angle you mentioned.

127 I'm not normally big on federal regulation, but by god, there should be a federal law that all online retailers doing business in These United States must identify both a product's and a "seller's" country of origin, and MUST have a filter available to screen out products for both factors.

And I mean rammed down the throats of Amazon, Walmart, Target, and their ilk.

128
Vintage Eddie Murphy. Nice.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2026 11:39 AM (bFu5X)


*fistbump*

129 Community Coffee with Chicory has entered the chat.
——

Well, it can walk right back out. It’s a flavoring at best, by itself it is of no use. Coffee that doesn’t do what Coffee does. It’s a fucking weed that grows in the ditches.

130 We got chicory growing all over the place here in NoVa. Very common weed.
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:38 AM (77rzZ)[p/i]

Essentially it is "endive", like Brussel Sprouts are Cabbage

131 The Chinese government executed 10 management level employees for the fiasco. The Americans involved in importing the deadly dogfood only took a hit to their stock portfolio.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks

sigh You're making the Chinese out to be good guys and I don't like that.

132 Seems treasonous........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 11:28 AM (2YhKe)

I have an extremely low opinion of our government. Virtually nothing surprises me. Bottomless perfidy is the name of the game in DC.

But Milley's public, unprompted disclosures about his Chinese loyalties - which he called routine communications! - shocked even my jaded sensibilities.

So brazen, because he knew it was SOP in the Pentagon, and that Congress understood it too, and IC opinion makers like NYT and WaPo would give him air cover.

It's all fucked up.

133 Most probiotics use it
Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2026 11:31 AM (rbvCR)

I try not to do "pro-biotics."
I try to eat actual biotics. Sauerkraut and yogurt (tzatziki, specifically) in particular. I need to make some more fermented slaw and sauerkraut.

134 Next you bigots will be calling trans women, counterfeit women.

Wait, I kinda like that. I think will start doing that.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2026 11:08 AM (h8SbW)

I have used that term for some time, right here.

135 Did anyone ever get one of those mail order puppies that could fit in a tea cup?

Always wanted one of them...

136 114 Chicory can be used as a substitute for coffee, no?
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:28 AM

Cafe du Monde ftw!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August

Try Mississippi Mud Coffee or Orleans Roast for a better experience.

137 I used to get chicory coffee occasionally when in the swamp, I don't understand the demand, as it makes the coffee bitter. Then again, I have always had my coffee black with no sugar, and I am sure cream and sugar covers it up. I assume it is just traditional, going back to the unpleasantness.

138 coffe smells good

139 The CCP knows exactly what they're doing.

140 Community Coffee with Chicory has entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2026

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I have that at their coffee shops in town, but their ground coffee has gotten pricey. For somebody who remembers when RT brand coffee with chicory was about $2.00 for 12 oz. (ca. 1989), CC's $12 is ridiculous. I buy Cafe El Morro espresso-style at Aldi, 8.8 oz. for $3.60, so a little more than a pound for just over $7.00.

141 Probably 1/3 to 1/2 of all "branded" merchandise sold online -- and probably a lot at retailers, too -- is counterfeit.

It's very easy to copy a famous brand and logo, slap in on some Chinesium, and sell it online. That's basically what the actual licensed sellers do anyway, except they pay for the license.

The odds of getting caught are low, and if you do, you just close shop and open up under a different name.

142
Try Mississippi Mud Coffee or Orleans Roast for a better experience.

Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 11:42 AM (ZdaMQ)


I miss Muddy Mudskipper........

143 117 Related Amazon problem: I search for a specific brand item, and Amazon refuses to show it to me, even though I know they sell it. Instead I get endless Chinese knockoffs that are "sponsored." I hate it.
Posted by: NCDave
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Someone tired of that as well came up with an extension to the web browser that screens out that crap. I think you can find it by search engines but caveat emptor to any software install or extension.

144 My family has learned that I will not eat at restaurants with the "louder is better for some reason" approach. It absolutely baffles me. Yes, it's nice to convey that other people think the restaurant is great, and noise suggests business, but there's a limit.

If I can't hear the person next to me, I'll go elsewhere.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 17, 2026 11:38 AM (Riz8t)

My comment about such places are that, "fortunately the restaurant has turned the sound system up so it won't be drowned out by the noise of the diners trying to talk to each other"

145 ***My wife got scammed by a counterfeit product sold through Amazon
--

Now do medicine from them.

146 It's simple. If it's a small business, like an Amish store selling raw milk, the government will confiscate it all and dump it, even if it tests clean and there have been no reported health issues. If it's a big corporation, with multiple recalls for health issues, they will be allowed to keep selling it and to stay in business.

147 I used to get chicory coffee occasionally when in the swamp, I don't understand the demand, as it makes the coffee bitter. Then again, I have always had my coffee black with no sugar, and I am sure cream and sugar covers it up. I assume it is just traditional, going back to the unpleasantness.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 17, 2026

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There's a small chain here called French Truck. I had some coffee w/ chicory at one of their coffee shops. Even sweetener and cream couldn't keep it from being vicious.

148 If it’s from a 3rd party on Amazon it’s either a scam or a Temu piece of shit knockoff. I thought everyone knew this.

149 126 noise suggests business
_-_
I have always thought they did that to get people out faster. Hadn't thought about the angle you mentioned.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at August 17, 2026 11:40 AM

That's why I like Panera Bread. Not for the food. I just get some coffee and use it as a hang out and use the WiFi with my laptop space.

150 I got some Chinese gummies for low T and now I'm sporting a mohawk and a hankering for gold chains.
Posted by: fd - I forgive you
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Tats?

151 It's simple. If it's a small business, like an Amish store selling raw milk, the government will confiscate it all and dump it, even if it tests clean and there have been no reported health issues. If it's a big corporation, with multiple recalls for health issues, they will be allowed to keep selling it and to stay in business.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 17, 2026 11:44 AM (bkuEU)


Well, the Amish have a way of proving to the world that everything government shoves down your throat is pure bullshit, so there's that.

152 In 1989 they hadn’t gotten all faggy yet with those oh so twee 12.347 ounce “pounds” of Coffee.

153 Yang Poon.

154 got some Chinese gummies for low T and now I'm sporting a mohawk and a hankering for gold chains.
Posted by: fd - I forgive you

Feather earrings and fear of flying, too.

155 I saw Yang Poon open for Wang Chung at Arcadia in '95.

156 you just close shop and open up under a different name.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 11:43 AM (iFTx/)

Most of them in China don't even bother with the "close up shop" step. They just change the signage.

157 There's nothing particularly free market about defending Amazon, or really any company. Or person, for that matter. There really is a need to regulate trade because fraud and fraudsters is a thing and one of the most important roles of government is to settle disputes among individuals.

I've shifted some of my buying away from Amazon. It's too hard to find, well, anything in particular because they've made the search so useless. If getting a particular thing actually matters, like buying repair parts for appliances or small engines or whatnot, I now tend to go to a specialized vendor. I haven't moved all of my spending to other places, because on-line shopping is a quagmire, but I am pretty quick to look elsewhere if it seems appropriate.

158 The godless Chinese will steal, copy and sell anything for cheap, and Amazon will market it, apparently. I've looked a power equipment on Amazon that looks a whole lot like Dewalt or Stihl, but is neither, nor is the price like Dewalt or Stihl. Take your chances, but buyer beware, as the saying goes.

159 I try not to do "pro-biotics."
I try to eat actual biotics. Sauerkraut and yogurt (tzatziki, specifically) in particular. I need to make some more fermented slaw and sauerkraut.
Posted by: GWB at August 17, 2026 11:42 AM (kU0PQ)

My problem is that I seem to have killed of some important strains in my gut with antibiotics, and kimchi and kraut were not helping things enough. Just Thrive does, and I take another brand that has Clostridium butyricum to try to offset issues that statins have on my blood glucose levels.

160 Most of them in China don't even bother with the "close up shop" step. They just change the signage.
Posted by: GWB


The Learing Center - Minneapolis

161 There's a small chain here called French Truck. I had some coffee w/ chicory at one of their coffee shops. Even sweetener and cream couldn't keep it from being vicious.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

I think you like it or you don’t, but I also think when the balance of chicory to coffee is off, like they are trying to be too cute with it, it ruins what it should be. I am in the like it camp, but I don’t like it from PJs. At all.

162 There's a small chain here called French Truck. I had some coffee w/ chicory at one of their coffee shops. Even sweetener and cream couldn't keep it from being vicious.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

You should've gone with the pumpkin-spice chicory...

163 There's a small chain here called French Truck. I had some coffee w/ chicory at one of their coffee shops. Even sweetener and cream couldn't keep it from being vicious.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 17, 2026 11:44 AM (wzUl9)

At least it wasn't called French Tuck. *ahem*

164 Who else remembers the poster selling cheap rolexes here.

Fuck it most of the legit luxury good are also made in Gyna.

165 This country could use a man like Joe McCarthy again. We're well past due for a Yellow Scare.

166
You should've gone with the pumpkin-spice chicory...
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:49 AM (77rzZ)/i]


According to the last thread, you can wipe your ass with it, too!

167 "Did anyone order a subscription to Grit?"
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:23 AM (77rzZ)

Selling that newspaper was my first job. Didn't pay squat.

168 Somewhere in the neighborhood of 70-75 pct of what Amazon sells is made in China, they would be out of business if you could filter and exclude by country of origin, plus you probably wouldn't be able to find what you were intending to buy.

169 Is good if good for China!

170 GRIT is a free OTA TV channel that runs westerns 24/7.

171 Prolapse Paul!

172 It's very easy to copy a famous brand and logo, slap in on some Chinesium, and sell it online. That's basically what the actual licensed sellers do anyway, except they pay for the license.

The odds of getting caught are low, and if you do, you just close shop and open up under a different name.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 11:43 AM (iFTx/)

It depends, too. The shops making the originals may well be making the counterfeit as well. It is China after all, and "honesty and fair measure" was one of the other Four Olds the cultural revolution got rid of.

173 FWIW, advertising is now one of the biggest profit centers for Amazon and makes more net profit than it does from retail. And the margins are far higher.

So Amazon destroyed its own search algorithms in order to sell ads to vendors for product placement. Same as grocery stores sell the best shelf space to big food companies. That makes you have to bend over, reach way up high, or other stunts to get what you want in a grocery store. In Amazon's marketplace, their virtual shelf though is crammed full of the same company under different shells selling the same exact slop under different names. That allows IP theft, fake shit, and other means of putting the crapola products in the prominent position and the buyer ending up never being able to find what brand they actually want that is genuine.

That is also why you see some name brand companies no longer selling to Amazon at all directly--they are tired of getting the blame for phony products sold by shitty Amazon vendors. That in turn is where the small business shady types buy out of date name brand products and flog them via Amazon.

174 That's why I like Panera Bread. Not for the food. I just get some coffee and use it as a hang out and use the WiFi with my laptop space.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 17, 2026

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I used to go there. Then they got all Nazi with the face diaper crap, and I haven't been in there more than twice in the last six years.

175 Who else remembers the poster selling cheap rolexes here.
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Cheap rolexes? How much were they?

176 I think you like it or you don’t, but I also think when the balance of chicory to coffee is off, like they are trying to be too cute with it, it ruins what it should be.

*IPAs have joined the chat*

177 The godless Chinese will steal, copy and sell anything for cheap, and Amazon will market it, apparently. I've looked a power equipment on Amazon that looks a whole lot like Dewalt or Stihl, but is neither, nor is the price like Dewalt or Stihl. Take your chances, but buyer beware, as the saying goes.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder


That's usually not a problem. The "Ryobi" batteries for half price or better than Ryobi are obviously not Ryobi. Half price is usually a dead giveaway.

True counterfeit is when they make it look identical to Ryobi.

178 One can search for a specific brand name product, and not get it to show in the first three pages on Amazon. There is a filter on the left side where you can limit the search to the specific manufacturer, but even that only filters the first page or so of hits. It is ridiculous.

179 Posted by: Paul at August 17, 2026 11:49 AM (CbXI9)



You DICK!!!!

180 kimchi and kraut were not helping things enough.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2026 11:49 AM (rbvCR)

I can understand that and sympathize. (I did the kraut thing after a bout of sinus infection that required heavy anti-biotics.) I hope you can get to a point where you don't need the supplement, though, and can handle it with just eating good food.

181 Does King Harv sell chicory coffee?

182 If you put anything you buy on Amazon into your body you should have your fucking head examined.

183 168 Somewhere in the neighborhood of 70-75 pct of what Amazon sells is made in China, they would be out of business if you could filter and exclude by country of origin, plus you probably wouldn't be able to find what you were intending to buy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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I see fake products being diversified from China now. Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand, Bangladesh, India are also getting in on it. Sometimes simply stamping their own made by country name on Chicom goods to avoid tariffs.

184 The Gormogons
@Gormogons
58m
GP Tax burrito wealth, starting with the evil Chipotle family which cornered the burrito market and is holding Americans hostage.

No salsa, no peace!
Aug 17, 2026 · 1:50 PM UTC

A reminder to all why burritos are expensive (but they aren't $20)
https://spencerpratt.substack.com /p/bombs-burnt-beef-and -the-big-20-burrito

185 On Alibaba (basically China's Amazon but sells a ton here) you can literally buy counterfeit US currency.

It's gold and silver Eagle coins, made to look exactly like the real thing. So shops can defraud people.

Can you imagine what would happen to a US corporation if it was selling counterfeit Chinese currency to Chinese people? It would be shut down within seconds.

China really does whatever the hell it wants, I thought after Covid things would change, but seems even stronger.

186 Most Avocado oil is mixed with other seed oils. My niece produces Marianne’s avocado oil, it was the only off the shelf Avocado oil certified 100% pure by U.C. Davis. Much like olive oil most common brands are mixed oil.

187
*IPAs have joined the chat*
Posted by: Archimedes at August 17, 2026 11:51 AM (Riz8t)


Meh. I know an IPA is going to be ass going into it, so I never order one.

188 Did anyone order a subscription to Grit?"
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:23 AM (77rzZ)

Selling that newspaper was my first job. Didn't pay squat.
Posted by: NCDave at August 17, 2026 11:49 AM (VQC/c)

It was still a pretty cool newspaper. Had some excellent short stories in it.

189 Most people who're semi aware know the Chinese are "in" everything here; government, industry, infrastructure, education, business, etc. All of America has been infiltrated. Every. Last. Bit.

They have personal info on every citizen, not just certain demographics. They have their own police stations. Man entire recruiting offices for our military. Own many a member of Congress.

We screw with each other on the international scene as if it was some sort of sitcom on TV.

190 Cheap rolexes? How much were they?

Posted by: ...



Last time I was in China, I was offered the opportunity to purchase a nice Ralux watch for approximately $50 US.

191 GRIT is a free OTA TV channel that runs westerns 24/7.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026

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And Zorro on Saturday mornings! Technically it's not a "Western" in the way we think of it, but it's set in California and has horses and the occasional single-shot pistol as well as Don Diego's sword work, so why not.

Movies! is another OTA with classic and sometimes fairly recent films. I think they're uncut, but you have to deal with commercials. Still, they have great stuff.

192 There's a chain of overstock/lot stores on the east coast called "Black Friday Daily Deals". Its gimmick is that it stocks a bunch of troughs with boxed junk on a weekly basis, charges $10 a box/item on Friday, then drops the price on items daily until it's just $1 on Wednesday. Thursday they close and restock.

Most of the junk there is still in Amazon packaging with some sort of delivery slip or content label. Not sure how much of the pile is made of returned items. But it's a big pile. And notably, those labels tend to be in Chinese.

193 ... there is not a “magic hand” of supply and demand at work.

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"Little Known Fact: The Heart song "Magic Man" was a tribute to Adam Smith."

/The Invisible Hand

194
I buy Cafe El Morro espresso-style at Aldi, 8.8 oz. for $3.60, so a little more than a pound for just over $7.00.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

In a package that looks just like Café Bustelo.

195 GRIT is a free OTA TV channel that runs westerns 24/7.
Posted by: Sponge
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I watch it from time-to-time, and play a mental game of Name the Actor. A lot of regulars in those old movies. A couple of years ago they ran the entire Gunsmoke series. Something like 420 episodes.

196 Who else remembers the poster selling cheap rolexes here.
Posted by: Paul at August 17, 2026 11:49 AM (CbXI9)

When on deployment to third- or second-world nations, all the aviators and aviator-adjacent folks bought the knock-offs from the street vendors, just to have one.

Rolexe, Britling, Brietling, Roolex, even the occasional Cassio.

Everyone thought it was a lark for $30 of your per diem.

197 I buy Cafe El Morro espresso-style at Aldi, 8.8 oz. for $3.60, so a little more than a pound for just over $7.00.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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In a package that looks just like Café Bustelo.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2026

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That's right. Dollar Tree used to carry it in the days when everything in the store *was* a dollar, but not any more.

198 Café Bustelo.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2026


I had that once.

It was terrible.

199 We could use a man like JJ Angleton, for that matter.

200 I try to discourage my wife from buying generic products all the time. She says "but it's all the same." To which I say if it's all the same, it wouldn't be "generic." Sometimes I win, and sometimes I don't. Marriage...

201 I have problems telling what legit products are when it's a market segment I've never bought from before.

Take headphones. $40 pair of ONN bone conducting headphones from walmart, decent sound quality, excellent mobility, broke 2 weeks in, in such a way that they won't hold one of the speakers in the correct position.

Look for replacement on Amazon, just so see what they have.
Replacements range from $14 to $150 and I have absolutely no clue what the names of legit manufacturers even are, because none of them are Sony or Phillips or Maxell or Bose. (yeah, that's how old I am)

202 We could use a man like JJ Angleton, for that matter.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Even Alan Dulles and J. Edgar were afraid of Angleton.

203 And Zorro on Saturday mornings! Technically it's not a "Western" in the way we think of it, but it's set in California and has horses ...
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Glad you noticed.

204 What USA need is good 75 cent egg roll.

205 I watch it from time-to-time, and play a mental game of Name the Actor. A lot of regulars in those old movies. A couple of years ago they ran the entire Gunsmoke series. Something like 420 episodes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 17, 2026

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Name the Actor, and its spinoff, How Many Actors in This Movie Would Also Be on Star Trek or U.N.C.L.E.

206 Try Mississippi Mud Coffee or Orleans Roast for a better experience.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 11:42 AM

Noted, thanks! I'll look for them.

207 I try to discourage my wife from buying generic products all the time. She says "but it's all the same." To which I say if it's all the same, it wouldn't be "generic." Sometimes I win, and sometimes I don't. Marriage...
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 17, 2026 11:57 AM (QaH55)


Always wanted my dad to pick up a 6-pack of BEER when roaming the store, but he never did.

208 What USA need is good 75 cent egg roll.
Posted by: Xi Jinping

Wawa eggrolls are fantastic.

209 > 15 I had my boss order a $100 CNC benchtop lathe.
Unheard of.
$100?
Mostly so I can CSI it and see what actually shows up.
Posted by: Reforger at August 17, 2026 11:06 AM (7ADiS)

From TEMU?

I got an email blurb from them a while back about a "big lathe sale" or something to that effect.

210 Drink Walmart coffee.

Complete colon cleanse.

211 Café Bustelo.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 17, 2026


I had that once.

It was terrible.
Posted by: Sponge
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Concur.

212 I try to discourage my wife from buying generic products all the time. She says "but it's all the same." To which I say if it's all the same, it wouldn't be "generic." Sometimes I win, and sometimes I don't. Marriage...
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 17, 2026 11:57 AM (QaH55)

You must decide. Do you want to be right or do you not want to sleep on the couch?

213 190 Cheap rolexes? How much were they?

Posted by: ...



Last time I was in China, I was offered the opportunity to purchase a nice Ralux watch for approximately $50 US.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 17, 2026 11:54 AM (0U5gm)
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I'm reminded of the "bum" guy in UHF that bought a Rolex for a penny.

To be fair, that specific penny "[...] was worth a fortune!"

214
From TEMU?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 17, 2026 12:00 PM (IG3/x)



This is about me, isn't it......

215 Even Alan Dulles and J. Edgar were afraid of Angleton.
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:58 AM (77rzZ)

Right or wrong, he did what he did for G-d and country, and never apologized for it. He was loyal. A good man, even if you don't like him.

216 China really does whatever the hell it wants, I thought after Covid things would change, but seems even stronger.

Posted by: Sharpie
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They are definitely weaker in some respects--basically corporations and businesses are moving away from them. Even Microsoft has finally given up on the idea that they can make bank in China (saw the news article this week describing the withdrawal). But momentum continues for a bit until divestiture occurs. And the decoupling is occurring, just not nearly as fast as we would like it.

Difficult for the US to detangle the relationship in part because so many domestic GOP and Dem politicians, institutions, and key political donors are embedded in keeping China market access. The donors are beginning to fade, the institutions like universities are beginning to retrench, and the pols are being replaced.

We are in the half empty half full with Trump right now.

217 Lot of stuff done already. Let's see if anything stupid or infuriating is going on. Actually, if I can't control it, I let it go...

CBC - Trump tariffs. Bring the pimp hand until the country as a whole are less bastards. And stop polluting your air.

CNN - Trump tells troops to tough it out. If onky he was as caring as the Clintons...

FoxNews - Outnumbered - Mom's angry with Big Tech

MS Now - Blanche has their panties in a bunch. The men too.

218 Cheap rolexes? How much were they?
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 11:51 AM

Twenty bucks. Same as in town.

219 Hayden Panettiere died. 36 years old. My mom liked one of the shows she was on years ago.

Odds are it was an OD or possibly suicide.

220 While not a fan of Amazon, I have to say, because of their speedy delivery service my local companies are offering faster delivery times. Certain Black folks still need to get a better attitude when servicing white folks.

221
Odds are it was an OD or possibly suicide.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 12:04 PM (iFTx/)


They're saying cardiac arrest from drug OD.

222 It's simple. If it's a small business, like an Amish store selling raw milk, the government will confiscate it all and dump it, even if it tests clean and there have been no reported health issues. If it's a big corporation, with multiple recalls for health issues, they will be allowed to keep selling it and to stay in business.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 17, 2026 11:44 AM (bkuEU)

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The foundation of many Covid PsyOps writ largeworldwide.

223 Excellent, Buck.

Fooled twice.

Had a period of ice and snow the past winter and couldn't find deicer locally. Ordered from Amazon, and that wasn't a good idea. Because it was cheap, tossed it out rather than the hassle of returning it at that time. I guess that's how the scammers make their profits.

A variety of fake products come in from Hong Kong advertised under Google Discovery, etc. I got caught up in the spring ordering something cute for a garden that was supposed to be from North Carolina craft persons. It turned out to being expensive junk from a NYC warehouse.

However, the supplier had to be tracked back to Hong Kong within 2 weeks from time of receipt for a refund.
The process to track the real supplier, its address, and then return the small package legally ($35+) was a hassle & costly. In the end, the supplier didn't pick it up from the Hong Kong drop point & two weeks later, the package worked its way back to me. I wasn't reimbursed the out-of-pocket for shipping the junk to Hong Kong.

I've put a complaint in to the BBB over the ads but there are so many identical complaints, I don't see how it can address them without federal government help.

224 Jfg Coffee, Ground, Med Dark, Bonus Blend 30.6 Oz
price:$14.48

225 Odds are it was an OD or possibly suicide.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 12:04 PM (iFTx/)


They're saying cardiac arrest from drug OD.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 12:04 PM (2YhKe)
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I'm shocked, shocked!

226 Hayden Panettiere died. 36 years old. My mom liked one of the shows she was on years ago.

Odds are it was an OD or possibly suicide.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Happened here in Greenville. All over the local news.

She had problems.

227 Community Coffee with Chicory has entered the chat."

Ah. Nectar of the gods...

228 Right or wrong, he did what he did for G-d and country, and never apologized for it. He was loyal. A good man, even if you don't like him.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Always wondered why his middle name was "Jesus," as that's a name that no American would give their child. Turns out, his mother was Mexican, so it was "Jesús."

229 221
Odds are it was an OD or possibly suicide.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 12:04 PM (iFTx/)


They're saying cardiac arrest from drug OD.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 12:04 PM (2YhKe)

Yeah, she was a mess. Her poor daughter has to deal not only with her mom giving up custody, but now her mom killed herself. I am hopeful her dad is solid, he is Ukrainian boxer.

230 Cheap rolexes? How much were they?
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2026 11:51 AM (rJIHE)

I picked up 2 in the tourist market right near the cruise pier in Nassau / Bahamas. $100 cash total after "negotiating". Years ago. They work great.

231 Facebook has a number of people selling counterfeit stuff. Some are at least honest about it and market the stuff (clothing, jewelry, shoes, accessories) as knockoffs.

Others don't. A couple people on FB make an "honest" living off of selling fake shit to the masses. Some of it, like certain purses or the like are so close to authentic that it takes a keen eye to know what to look for.

Issues crop up from time to time with certain companies getting more than a bit agitated about it and take legal action to halt the sales.

232 I've read that Amazon will also engage in IP theft by appropriating products to be sold under the "Amazon Basics" label.

233 215 Even Alan Dulles and J. Edgar were afraid of Angleton.
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:58 AM (77rzZ)

Right or wrong, he did what he did for G-d and country, and never apologized for it. He was loyal. A good man, even if you don't like him.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

None of us are in a good position to evaluate spooks--they have the power to classify their misdeeds and have their own pet scribes to release stuff they think makes them look fabulous.

What goes in their heads is even less available to us especially over a distance in history.

Like ouroboros in Midgard, we get glimpses of the scaly monster of the Deep State and its apparatchiks but cannot comprehend the complete picture lest it destroy us.

234 he is Ukrainian boxer.
Posted by: Piper

Hah! Leaving out the article, just as a Ukrainian speaker would! Well done!

235 Cheap rolexes? How much were they?"

Bought a gen u wine rolex and pair of "okeley" sunglasses from a guy at Times Square.
He was putting on such a show...

236 CNN - Trump tells troops to tough it out. If onky he was as caring as the Clintons...

Is this that idiocy with the video of the "shocking" bathroom on a Navy ship?

237 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 11:14 AM

You are definitely 29.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2026 11:17 AM (bFu5X)

Oh, yeah? At least my genuine X Ray glasses worked!!

238 You must decide. Do you want to be right or do you not want to sleep on the couch?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 17, 2026 12:01 PM (wVcYX)

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You're allowed a couch at least?

/ShainS in The DogHouse

239
Hah! Leaving out the article, just as a Ukrainian speaker would! Well done!
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 12:08 PM (77rzZ)

We will pretend that was on purpose. 😂

240 Hayden Panettiere died"

The cheerleader, right?

241 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater

You are definitely 29.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState


Charles Atlas "How to not get sand kicked in your face" book.

242 Did anyone order a subscription to Grit?"
Posted by: Bulg at August 17, 2026 11:23 AM (77rzZ)

Selling that newspaper was my first job. Didn't pay squat.
Posted by: NCDave at August 17, 2026 11:49 AM (VQC/c)

It was still a pretty cool newspaper. Had some excellent short stories in it.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2026 11:54 AM (g8Ew

Oh, I agree. I just didn't make any money selling it. Possibly my lack of sales skills...

243 Oh, yeah? At least my genuine X Ray glasses worked!!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 17, 2026 12:08 PM (hmYU4)

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See-Though (Girls' Clothing) Glasses FTW ... NOT!

244 Is this that idiocy with the video of the "shocking" bathroom on a Navy ship?

Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2026 12:08 PM (2ocoG)

Not sure.

I'm just giving the headlines. Probably.

245 Hayden Panettiere died"

The cheerleader, right?
Posted by: man


Actress. Life imitates art.
Played a strung out druggie singer on Nashville.

246 The cheerleader, right?
Posted by: man at August 17, 2026 12:10 PM (cGjQu)

Malcolm's babysitter!

247 Etsy has this problem too. People buy from their site thinking they're getting handcrafted goods and the prices usually reflect that. But they have had a huge uptick in resellers buying stuff from Temu and selling them on Etsy for 3x, 4x, or even 5x increase in price. Sometimes they even use pictures from other sellers to hide what they're doing.

248 we need about a hundred Angletons these days, each one with the backing of a platoon of Marines deputized as federal marshals.

249 Odds are it was an OD or possibly suicide.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 12:04 PM (iFTx/)


They're saying cardiac arrest from drug OD.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 17, 2026 12:04 PM (2YhKe)

Yeah, she was a mess. Her poor daughter has to deal not only with her mom giving up custody, but now her mom killed herself. I am hopeful her dad is solid, he is Ukrainian boxer.
Posted by: Piper at August 17, 2026 12:06 PM (ZdaMQ)
____

Wlad Klitschko. Was a major boxing talent, although could never really take a punch. Ditto his brother Vitali.

My best guess is Wlad took one too many punches to the head, but he's gotta be in better shape than she was.

250 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 11:14 AM

You are definitely 29.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2026 11:17 AM (bFu5X)

Oh, yeah? At least my genuine X Ray glasses worked!!
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 17, 2026 12:08 PM (hmYU4)

My remote-contolled ghost didn't. White balloon, white trash bag, and 5 ft of kite string.

251 Sponge gets me.

252 The GRIT newspaper hq was near my grandparents house. I think the building houses a heating and ac company now.

253 But OrangeMan bad!!!!!

254 although whig @ 233 makes a good point, too ...

255 Seriously Georgia ? Ossoff is an ass hole...

256 Someone tired of that as well came up with an extension to the web browser that screens out that crap. I think you can find it by search engines but caveat emptor to any software install or extension.
Posted by: whig at August 17, 2026 11:43 AM (E4rtv)

Thanks. I'll look for that.

257 Hayden Panettiere died

The cheerleader, right?

Yes. She was the cheerleader on Heroes. She was also the precocious little girl on Remember the Titans.

258 The “Submarine” I ordered from the back of the comic book was pretty underwhelming. Cardboard! Those fuckers.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2026 11:14 AM

You are definitely 29.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2026 11:17 AM (bFu5X)

Oh, yeah? At least my genuine X Ray glasses worked!!
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 17, 2026 12:08 PM (hmYU4)

My remote-contolled ghost didn't. White balloon, white trash bag, and 5 ft of kite string.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 17, 2026 12:12 PM (wVcYX)
________

"Meh"

-- Sea Monkeys

259 Sea monkeys

260 My remote-contolled ghost didn't. White balloon, white trash bag, and 5 ft of kite string.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 17, 2026 12:12 PM (wVcYX)
________

"Meh"

-- Sea Monkeys
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 17, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)

My secret decoder ring was crap too

261 I have a fun story involving Angleton.

If any of you are familiar with defense contractors, they often buy off military and intelligence officers with board positions.

I once worked for one such, and they brought in a couple of these guys, one of whose names most of you would know, and the other would be known to some small number of you.

They came in to this all hands meeting where most of the people were wary of, if not openly hostile toward the government, to assuage their fears.

At the end, they did this "ask us anything" segment. This was during the Snowden thing, so all the questions were about NSA culpability.

Except mine. I only asked "Was Yuri Nosenko a triple agent or not?"

It was the one question where the NSA guy said "we can't answer."

262 I think the building houses a heating and ac company now.

I enjoy all of the headlines from French media about air conditioning being "extremist right wing". We live in clown world.

263 AP: After killing hundreds in boat strikes, US military expands campaign on land in Latin America

hundreds ?!?

264 Yes. She was the cheerleader on Heroes. "

One of the early "streaming" shows...

265 263 AP: After killing hundreds in boat strikes, US military expands campaign on land in Latin America

hundreds ?!?
Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2026 12:16 PM (Urnar)


"hundreds" of innocent fishermen...

266 Capper's Weekly was like the Pepsi to GRIT's Coke.

Anybody remember that one?

267 Speaking of GRIT, for a while I was a member of The Grange, and received their quarterly(?) newspaper. Interesting.

268 255 Seriously Georgia ? Ossoff is an ass hole...
Posted by: It's me donna
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He and Warnock were installed by the Big Cheat of 2020 and the state GOP governor and secretary of state were complicit.

Believed in part because both Kemp and Ratshitburger were deeply entwined with Chicom business interests and the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce. Savannah is a big port on the East Coast now.

269 NOODlum.

270 Except mine. I only asked "Was Yuri Nosenko a triple agent or not?"

It was the one question where the NSA guy said "we can't answer."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2026 12:15 PM (BI5O2)

Heh! The concept of triple agent causes the wheels in my brain to spin wildly and smoke… it’s like I know that you know that I know that you know… etc etc

271 "Little Known Fact: The Heart song "Magic Man" was a tribute to Adam Smith."

/The Invisible Hand
Posted by: ShainS at August 17, 2026 11:55 AM (b0PnQ)
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Try to understand. Try to understand. Try Try Try. To Understand...

272 Hayden Panettiere was also in a Netflix show that I watched for some reason called Nashville. She played a rising country star. It was kind of like A Star Is Born, and surprisingly not woke.

273 Two weeks ago bookmarked two computers. When back yesterday, they are no longer available and those that were close have half the memory, twice the price and bad reviews.

274 I watched this YouTube video where these auto guys went thru the electronics of some Nissan automobile because the car would always start/stop.

After hours and hours, they looked at the old hood latch assembly that the owner had replaced on the car. Seems the Amazon replacement didn’t always send an obvious ‘1’ or ‘0’ with the signal somewhere in between. The car worked fine with the Nissan replacement, but not the Amazon.

275 Except mine. I only asked "Was Yuri Nosenko a triple agent or not?"

It was the one question where the NSA guy said "we can't answer."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

One of my profs was a key Senate staffer on the Church Committee and had the clout to interview CIA directors (I had to transcribe them as a senior grad student). He was not a fan of Angleton because of the damage that Angleton's secret ops did to the overall functioning of the agency. There is a reason he got fired and it wasn't over the spy hunter nonsense that Angleton promoted.

276 201 and I have absolutely no clue what the names of legit manufacturers even are, because none of them are Sony or Phillips or Maxell or Bose. (yeah, that's how old I am)

i'm right here, you know

277 199 We could use a man like JJ Angleton, for that matter.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2026 11:57 AM (BI5O2)

Yes! We need a drunk. A really good one.

278 273 Two weeks ago bookmarked two computers. When back yesterday, they are no longer available and those that were close have half the memory, twice the price and bad reviews.

you're welcome

279 Cheap rolexes? How much were they?"

Bought a gen u wine rolex and pair of "okeley" sunglasses from a guy at Times Square.
He was putting on such a show...
Posted by: man at August 17, 2026 12:08 PM (cGjQu)

Friend of mine, coming back from his first business trip to China, thought it would be great fun to buy fake Rolexes and give them as gag Christmas gifts to his friends and families. Had ten of them on his arm when the US customs agent asked him if he had anything to declare.

Mike thought it he'd let the customs agent in on the joke and pulled up his sleeve:

Mike: "BAM!"

CA: (After an uncomfortably long pause) "Umm..I can't let you in with those."

Mike: (Sheepishly sliding his sleeve down) "You serious about that? I wuz gonna give em to my friends.."

CA: (Calculating the extra time required to have Mike in his life while paperwork was filled out) "Get outta here."

280 Do this 15 second trick on your breaker box to save $$$

281 It's a strange generation that orders consumable, perishable goods online. This is how you end up with explosive diarrhea.

282 The best coffee I ever had was a Spanish Coffee at the Huber Cafe, the oldest restaurant in Portland, OR with a gorgeous old bar. Coffee, rum, kahlua and whipped cream that gets lit on fire.

And boy howdy, does your bartender put on a show when he makes it at your table.

283 Matsushita

284 Heh! The concept of triple agent causes the wheels in my brain to spin wildly and smoke… it’s like I know that you know that I know that you know… etc etc
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Fun fact, look up the agent Tricycle-Dusko Popov. Triple agent of Yugoslav (IIRC) origin in WWII. He worked for Abwehr, MI-6, and Yugo Intel. Solid claims that he warned Hoover of specific interests of the Japanese in Pearl Harbor but Hoover discounted it because a) foreign, b) double agent spy perhaps a triple.

285 282 The best coffee I ever had was a Spanish Coffee at the Huber Cafe, the oldest restaurant in Portland, OR with a gorgeous old bar. Coffee, rum, kahlua and whipped cream that gets lit on fire.

And boy howdy, does your bartender put on a show when he makes it at your table.
Posted by: Tex Lovera

The bartender is combining two old methods to prevent food or drink from harming you--alcohol and flames. You should thank him/her for that.

286 Seems the Amazon replacement didn’t always send an obvious ‘1’ or ‘0’ with the signal somewhere in between.

Many such cases, and not just Amazon. Any non-OEM part you get at O'Reilly or whatever is probably Chinese and may or may not work. It's especially true of anything electrical like a sensor, but even purely mechanical parts sometimes just don't fit.

287 Nood Swalwell.

288 eBay FTW.

289 283 Matsushita

A Hiro!

290 18 Thx Buck, sorry to hear about the fraud.
A question: has anyone ever shown by scientifically valid tests, that supplements, including vitamins actually work? I take a multivitamin every day but who knows?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 17, 2026 11:07 AM (rp63B)

I take three supplements daily, plus a multi-vitamin. Creatine. Collagen. Saw palmetto for prostrate health. I don't have "scientific" data from Big Pharma or Little Fauci or Corrupt Academia to support my conclusion, but I know that what I take works and each work noticeably well. Is it the placebo effect or the mere power of suggestion? Don't know. Don't care. I just know what works for me and I prefer positive results to "evidence" explaining why or why not. I buy the creatine through Amazon, the others through a local "nutrition" store, but thanks to this article, I will start buying my Creatine at a brick-n-mortar now too.

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The Morning Report — 8/ 17 /26

Good morning kids. So, how in Heaven's name did this happen?

Located approximately 650 feet northeast of the White House grounds, the 100-year-old Securities Building on 15th Street was purchased on July 21, 2026 [sic] for $8.4 million by the Philip Qiu and Family Foundation, filings show. The building’s new owner, Philip Qiu, has held numerous positions within Chinese intelligence and state security arms, according to
university records and DCNF translations of Chinese government announcements.

Considering the Chi-Coms have already purchased untold thousands of acres of our farmland as well as land adjacent to many of our military bases, this really is not that surprising as it is disgusting and alarming. In this instance, I don't think there is any legislation that requires real estate agents or property owners to investigate or refuse to sell to any potential buyers. Then again considering the metastasis of the Confucius Institutes on our campuses as well as the infiltration of Red Chinese nationals into some of our most sensitive tech firms, who for sure would have been or should have been vetted by HR departments out the wahzoo.

At least we have a tiny bit of sanity to celebrate coming out of Texas.

Frankly, the very idea of this project rubbed me the wrong way. Why would airport officials in Texas be pandering to the Muslim community in such an obvious, unnecessary, discriminatory, and, as I see it, humiliating way? This is America.. . Apparently, I wasn’t the only one irked by the project. Many Americans opposed the installation of Wudu ablution stations — including Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R). In a Friday memo, Abbott announced he’d directed a review of all state grants to Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airports. The news release read (in part): These ablution facilities appear designed to single out one subset of the population for special treatment based on religion. That is illegal. Both airports are government-owned facilities. The federal and state constitutions prohibit government from facilitating this sort of discrimination. Just as the government cannot favor the secular over the sacred, it also cannot favor one religious view over all others.

Actually, if these installations were made dual usage, I could support them. Muslim foot-washing and Dog Urinals. Plus Toilet paper with Koranic passages printed on them, although that could cause mass perianal-infections and we can't have that, can we?

And of course this madness continues seemingly unabated, despite the best efforts of President Trump which to date has been yielding considerable successes. And hence we have to contend with what amounts to mass insurrection

Democrats in blue states across the country have swamped their legislatures with an avalanche of nearly 250 pro-migrant bills to thwart President Donald Trump’s immigration and deportation policies... The bills have been enthusiastically supported by state Democrats, but many have been opposed by legal action by the federal government. In some blue states, though, some of the measures have even been vetoed by Democrat governors who fear the measures go too far... The left is using liberal judges to obstruct the president’s mandate, says James Percival, General Counsel for the Department of Homeland Security: “They know if they can just get enough crazy district judges to do enough crazy things, they can run out the clock.”

There is only one proper response to this and that is the ramping up of ICE operations to deport as many illegal aliens as possible and the utter rejection of all rulings by any court that attempts to interfere with the legal operation of federal authorities in the securing of our borders and defense of our national security and protenction of the citizenry.

Meanwhile the Democrats continue to take their "Lumps" shall we say, and it's delicious.

Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) responded to a recent poll that found that more than half of Democrats have a positive view of socialism over capitalism, stating that “this is lunacy.”

If you had told me back when Fetterman ran and defeated Mehmet Oz back in 2022 that he would actually not only sound and even on occasion act sane I'd have said you were crazy. Yet there he is supporting Israel, secure borders and publicly calling out his own party as insane. Yes, there is no doubt that his past as a died-in-the-wool lib means he will always vote the way the party leadership demands. And yet, there he is and there he goes. Good for him. Be nice if we had an actual conservative saying what he's saying instead of going down on Mitch McConnell's heir apparent du jour, be it Thune or Cornyn or God-forbid Susan Collins or whoever.

While we're on the subject of madness there's this:

It’s mid-August. That can only mean one thing – Democrat politicians spreading fabrications about the police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, on August 9, 2014.

The most persistent fabrication is the claim that Brown was a “gentle giant” gunned down while his hands were raised up and saying don’t shoot. “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” became the slogan of the organized Black Lives Matter movement, which was launched after the Brown shooting. . . This year was quieter than most years but leave it to Rashida Tlaib to tweet that Michael Brown was “murdered”:

Mike Brown should still be with us today.

Yeah, were it not for the fact of Democrats' and LBJ's Great Society that caused the genocide (There's a word for you Lefties!) of the black family and the general societal dissolution that we are suffering 60 years on and will continue until there is a radical change in culture and education back to normalcy.

Oh, Senator Fetterman if you want to see lunacy in action, here's a gigantic heaping helping of it that you should call out, but probably won't. Oh well...

Have a good day,

CIVIL WAR 2.0, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION
• Near the anniversary of Michael Brown’s death, Rep. Rancid Tlaib repeats the fabrication.
  Here We Go Again – No Rashida, Michael Brown Was Not “Murdered”
  
• Because people just expect that it’ll go one way or the other. It’s the idea that someone would get elected not just knowing about seven states, but having to earn votes all over the United States. I certainly think it’s time.
  Gov. Beshear: ‘It’s Time’ to Abolish the Electoral College
  
• . . . the move was a calculated legal gamble aimed at avoiding a life sentence rather than any sign of remorse. Mangione pleaded guilty to federal stalking charges connected to Thompson's murder. He still faces a separate state trial in New York scheduled for September. That's where things get interesting, because the two cases carry sharply different stakes.
  Oh, So This Is Why Luigi Mangione Pleaded Guilty
  
• We saved Europe from starvation and communism. Now America needs a Marshall Plan of its own. (First it needs to be denazified of the Left - jjs)
  The Country We Forgot to Rebuild
  
• In a post on X, Fetterman warned that the Democrat Party is “becoming the party of socialism.” Fetterman also shared a screenshot of a Mediaite article regarding a CBS News/YouGov survey, which found that among Democrats surveyed, 58 percent had a positive view of socialism, while 32 percent had a positive view of capitalism.
  John Fetterman Responds to Poll That Democrats Hold Positive View of Socialism: ‘This Is Lunacy’

  "DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST/GLOBALIST BORDER BLOODBATH," AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY

• A review by the left-wing State Futures organization discovered 242 pieces of legislation in 32 states, of which about a fifth have already passed, OregonLive reported.
  Democrats Swamp State Legislatures with 250 Pro-Migrant Bills to Obstruct Trump’s Deportation Mandate
  
• The politics here should worry Democrats more than the polling. An Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll released in August found immigration remains a stronger issue for President Donald Trump than the economy or Iran.
  It's Official, Democrats Want to Abolish ICE
  
• Boston U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs, who previously had issued a stay stopping the administration from terminating Somalia’s Temporary Protected Status (TPS), ended her previous action, saying she had to defer to the Supreme Court that in June sharply limited the ability of federal judges to override certain executive branch policies.
  Obama-Appointed Judge Defers to Supreme Court Ruling, Gives Trump a Somali Deportation Win
  
• Officer Jones required emergency surgery to save his life and remains in recovery. Pantoja-Morales, who faces charges of aggravated assault on a public servant, is currently detained and under a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) hold, underscoring the threat to public safety posed by illegal aliens at large in the community.
  Illegal Alien Charged With Shooting Officer Who Offered Him a Ride.
  
• The issue isn't foreign CDL drivers; plenty of lawful immigrants and foreign-born drivers safely operate commercial trucks daily. The issue is whether somebody who can't adequately read road signs, understand warnings, communicate with police, or follow instructions in English should be behind the wheel of an 80,000-pound commercial vehicle on an American highway.That's a safety standard, not a nationality test.
  30 Dead, 17 Fatal Crashes, and a Judge Tells DHS to Wait
  
• Mass immigration can only work if immigrants are introduced to a common American culture and expected to assimilate.
  America’s Stranger Problem
  
• The case highlights ongoing concerns over the exploitation of foreign workers and undercutting of local workers in the U.S., particularly by businesses leveraging immigration loopholes.
  U.S. Attorney Cracks Down on Chinese-Run Forced Factory Labor.

  THE IRAN CONFLICT, MOU/"PEACE DEAL" (aftermath??)

• “Billboards and murals around Tehran take aim at the U.S. president and Israel, showing images from Trump lying in a coffin to drowning in the sea.”
  Top Iranian Official Threatens Trump, Mocks Him Over Catering-Truck Escape
  
• “Anyone who kills or captures and hands over an invading American military personnel will receive a reward equivalent to $30,000 or 5 billion tomans from the Islamic Republic of Iran’s Army,” Maj. Gen. Amir Hatami said at a ceremony honoring journalists.
  Iran Army Chief Offers $30,000 Bounty for Killing or Capturing U.S. Soldiers

  ISRAEL vs IRAN & GAZA/HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH . . . AND LEFTISTS. . . The U.N... AND HISTORY

• The Israel Defense Forces “will not allow the Hezbollah terrorist organization to harm Israeli civilians and IDF soldiers, and will continue to operate to remove threats.”
  Israel Strikes Hezbollah Terror Targets in Southern Lebanon After Troops Attacked
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• Since it was launched just six months ago, American Priorities has channeled millions of dollars, primarily from donors with Arab, Muslim, and/or Middle Eastern backgrounds, to a string of winning candidates in high-profile races.
  How Hamas’ Attack on Israel Is Transforming American Politics
  
• Netanyahu’s comments show the strained relationship between the United Kingdom and Israel, especially after former British Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer’s decision to recognize Palestinian statehood. The relationship between the two countries is likely to remain strained as Britain’s new prime minister, Andy Burnham, has vowed to be more critical of Israel. “Labour’s initial response to the treatment of Gaza caused huge hurt. We got it wrong and I am sorry for that,” Burnham said last month.
  Netanyahu Brands the United Kingdom the ‘Islamic Republic of Britain.’

  
  THE GREAT SOMALIAN SIMOLEON SWINDLE

• And how Democrats enabled every dollar plundered.
  How illegals plunder American billions, in broad daylight

  DOMESTIC AFFAIRS, THE COURTS, WASTE/FRAUD/ABUSE

• It's more important than ever to reward work and support families.
  Why It’s Time To Re-Form Welfare Reform
  
• CIVIL DECAY: Come for the utopia. Stay because your car has been stolen.
  A Tour of America’s Blue Utopias
  
• When even "private" efforts to revive intercity passenger rail cannot work, it's time to admit Americans don't like trains.
  A Not So Brightline: California’s Other Bullet Train Boondoggle
  
• Wherever Democrat majorities have held power for long enough, an inexorable process of decivilization sets in, involving the collapse of civic order and dystopian, slum-like conditions profoundly unworthy of America as “the land of the free.”
  California Blues

  WE-ALL-SLAM-FOR-I-SLAM

• “As synagogue security was escorting him out, he struck a member of the congregation, damaged synagogue property, and then spit at and head-butted a member of the security team.”
  Mamdani Comes Under Fire After Man Storms NYC Synagogue, Punches Woman in the Face
  
• Under El-Sayed, one city was responsible for killing a quarter of the dogs in the country.
  Abdul El-Sayed and Chief Muslim Ally Accused of Abusing and Killing Dogs
  
• “If 6-8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us.”
  Abdul El-Sayed to Speak at Conference Calling for Muslim Takeover of U.S.
  
• According to the complaint, students were allegedly coerced into participating in Islamic religious practices: donning hijabs, accepting Qurans.
  Parents Sue School District Over Mosque Field Trip, Claim Religious Indoctrination
  
• Some hatred is more equal than others.
  CA Students Given ‘Social Justice Pathway’ to Mosque
  
• “DFW plans to install Islamic wudu washing facilities are illegal. I’ve directed a review of all state grants to both airports for possible revocation.”
  DFW Airport Scraps Islamic Foot-Washing Stations After Governor Draws a Line
  
• Ali’s remarks form part of a broader history of controversial statements, including past justifications of Palestinian suicide bombers and support for Hamas, which have drawn significant criticism.
  Pro-Hamas California Imam Claims Columbus Found Mosques in the Americas.
  
• How long will this ridiculous charade go on?
  Muslim Screaming ‘Allahu Akbar’ Attacks Cops, ‘Motive Unclear’

  AMERICA AND THE WORLD IMPRISONED: CHINESE CORONAVIRUS FICTIONS AND FACTS

• “The American people deserve answers to legitimate questions regarding our miserably failed response to COVID-19. Apparently, he has a lot to hide.” 
  Fauci Ducks Second Senate Panel After Taking the Fifth

  FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, CENSORSHIP, FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, BIG BROTHER TECH

• Free speech absolutism is the solution, because people like Hasan Piker will hang themselves if we just give them the rope to do so.
  Blue-On-Blue Fight Over First Amendment
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• versions of four leading AI chatbots—ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Grok, and Claude—spread fictions from the lef. . .
  Artificial Ignorance: The Political Falsehoods Of Leading AIs
  
• A new book argues that the future of work belongs to judgment, accountability, and trust—not just intelligence.
  AI Can’t Replace Human Judgment
  
• Effective Altruism amounts to a perversion of John Calvin that has created a truly bizarre and potentially malevolent moral code.
  AI, Morality, and Effective Altruism

  THE ECONOMY, STUPID

• A recent GAO report broke down the numbers related to Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act that has apparently increased average tax refunds for Americans, Just the News reported Saturday, citing the GAO.
  Winning: Americans’ Tax Refunds Increased by $43 Billion This Year
  
• Our country lives or dies based on how we address the very real problems that have put the American Dream far out of reach for most people.
  We Can’t Save The American Dream By Pretending Everything Is Just Fine
  
• Totalitarianism stifles all initiative. In a free country, every person has the opportunity to build a better mousetrap.
  Entrepreneurs Build Prosperity. Freedom Makes It Possible.
  
• It’s the reason why you hear more mainstream state Dems calling for a settlement as well. To be clear, it isn’t because of any great love for Ellison, the upstart movie producer who, with the help of billionaire father Larry Ellison’s bank account, has been gobbling up ­ever-larger media giants for the past three years.
  California AG’s block of Paramount-Warner Bros. merger could chase away key source of funds for Dems

  RED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS, JUNK SCIENCE, LYSENKOISM

• As Spokane firefighters achieve containment, France faces wildfire challenges as 400 people arrested on suspicion of starting a fire…with a vast majority actually being charged with arson.
  Spokane Arson Arrest Underscores the Wildfire Threat Climate Narratives Ignore
  
• The U.S. stopped doling out dollars to the grift last year — the rest of the developed world should do the same.
  Defund The U.N. Green Climate Fund
  
• The rise in electric heavy truck adoption could significantly reduce diesel consumption in Asia. The widespread adoption of electric heavy trucks could also help the continent further insulate itself from the fluctuations in oil prices created by the Iran war. This reflects China’s ongoing pivot into the electric vehicle market.
  Iran War Driving Chinese E-Truck Export Boom.
  
• No, but the “claim sounds scary until you read the fine print.” So, go out and enjoy your summer!
  Was This July Really the “Hottest Month in History”?

  CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY

• State Assemblywoman Emily Gallagher, who describes herself as a “neighborhood organizer” and “democratic socialist,” made her comments on Thursday outside Manhattan Criminal Court, the New York Post reported Saturday.
  WATCH — NYC: Socialist Lawmaker Claims Stealing for ‘Biological Need’ Should Not Be Illegal (I have a biological need for at least $1 Billion, per year - jjs)
  
• Meet career crook Shaquan Seth, cut loose last week after five, count ’em five, shoplifting busts in Queens — less than six days after he got out of Rikers after a five-month stint for previous thievery — because New York law forbids cash bail for offenses like Seth’s. . . No matter that he threatened to shoot a young female clerk who was brave enough to try stopping him. He was put right back on the street. 
  150 arrests and he still walks: How NY laws push criminals to grow worse

  EDUCATION, AND WHAT PASSES FOR IT

• Arday’s sudden death comes shortly after his resignation, which was surrounded by significant public and professional scrutiny. His death is likely to complicate the discourse and investigation surrounding the allegations of plagiarism and lying. The investigation into the specifics of his death is ongoing.
  Accused Plagiarist Jason Arday Found Dead in London Home.
  
• Roger Kimball: Whatever else can be said about the “Jason Arday Affair,” he was not the victim.
  The Unmaking of Jason Arday

  ABORTION

• President Trump delivered the greatest victory imaginable for the pro-life movement, one it had been fighting for for nearly five decades.
  Trump was Right About the Democrats' Abortion Agenda

  SECOND AMENDMENT

• Legal experts caution the NFA is not completely dead. And not just anyone is can purchase suppressors sans paperwork.
  Landmark Suppressor Ruling Leaves Gun World With More Questions Than Answers

  THE 2020 AND OTHER ELECTION HEISTS & AFTERMATH

• In June, U.S. District Judge Indira Talwani of Massachusetts ruled in favor of 23 states, led by California, that filed a lawsuit seeking to block Trump’s order.
  Trump Administration Urges Supreme Court to Review Mail-In Ballot Executive Order

  DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY, INSANITY

• The loathsome CA State Senator was accused of reinforcing sexist stereotypes after chatbot mimicked fellow Democrat and SF city supervisor Connie Chan.
  Scott Wiener’s AI Attack on Opponent Backfires in Race to Replace Pelosi
  
• Jackson is running against 'greedy corporations' and 'high-priced lobbyists'
  With Troy Jackson at the Helm, Maine Senate Democrats' Campaign Arm Took Hundreds of Thousands From Corporate PACs and Lobbyists
  
• Sayed paid himself a $64k 'salary' and more than $100k in 'member draw' through consulting firm, a structure often used to reduce Medicare and Social Security taxes
  Abdul El-Sayed Says Wealthy Should 'Pay Their Fair Share' But Appears To Take Advantage of Tax 'Loophole' Used by John Edwards, Accountants Say

  POLITICS

• Leftist dogma will keep driving away the working class no matter how hard Democrats pivot to economic populism.
  Rebranding Won’t Make Democrats Less Repulsive on Social Issues
  
• Thad McCotter: MAGA and the DSA may be ideological opposites, but their shared hostility to corporate-government collusion creates an unexpected opening for populist cooperation.
  MAGA and the DSA, Part One: Similarities Between These Populist Antagonists
  
• “In an early sign of Rogers’ bipartisan backing, three prominent Jewish Democrat bundlers are holding fundraiser for Rogers next week.
  Jewish Michigan Dems Set to Hold Fundraiser for Mike Rogers As Outreach Continues”
  
• The House Democrat minority leader slammed the far left's policies including defunding the police, open borders, and abolishing the Senate.
  Hakeem Jeffries: ‘I Do Not Support The DSA Agenda’
  
• Jeffries said, “Well, what I can say is that I do not support defunding the police. I do not support open borders. I do not support abolishing the Senate. We’re focused on actually solving problems that hardworking American taxpayers want us to solve, which is to lower the high cost of living in a situation where life is far too expensive in this country. That’s the democratic agenda. That’s what House Democrats are fighting to achieve.”
  Jeffries: Democrat Socialists of America Will Be Part of Our ‘Broad Caucus’ (Disemboweled carcass please G-d, jjs)
  
• Much of America is freaking out over the Marxist takeover of the Democrat Party, but for anyone who paid attention, this wasn't hard to foresee. It has been coming for generations.
  Democrat Communists Were Inevitable
  
• Looking at how crazy the Democrats have become, he believes that if Republicans campaign intelligently with their Contrast for America, they should be able to have a huge victory.
  Newt Gingrich Is Optimistic About The Midterms
  
• South Carolina’s elevated position dates to Biden’s [so-called quote-unquote] presidency. The state rescued his struggling 2020 campaign after poor performances in Iowa and New Hampshire, with Black voters providing the support that helped propel him toward the nomination.
  Democrats Put South Carolina First in 2028 Presidential Primary Calendar
  
• "AOC stands for Always On Camera," Conway said. "She is a performer, not a reformer. She went to Washington to legislate; that's her job. She's a pontificator, not a legislator." Conway piled on by pointing out that, in four years under [so-called quote-unquote] President Joe Biden, AOC passed one bill. One.
  This Might Be the Most Brutal Diagnosis of AOC You'll Ever Hear

  FOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL

• It comes in several flavors, and all of them are bitter.
  Europe’s Coming Existential Crisis
  
• A former British police officer has been convicted of posting offensive content on Facebook after he reposted an image mocking Islam, sparking accusations that blasphemy laws have returned to the United Kingdom.
  Former Police Officer Convicted of Sharing ‘Grossly Offensive’ Meme About Islam in Britain
  
• Trump’s idiosyncratic view of international relations risks unwittingly empowering America’s enemies.
  Trump’s Break With South Korea Projects Weakness In The Pacific

  THE UKRAINIAN "FRONT"

• It appears this factory is a single-point failure. It is the only one in Russia that manufactures these rockets, used to launch Soyuz manned capsules and Progress freighters to ISS as well as military satellites and Russia’s new Rassvet constellation, aimed at providing it is own Starlink equivalent. If damaged badly...
  Ukrainian missiles hit Russia’s only Soyuz-2 rocket factory

  DEFENSE, MILITARY, SECURITY AFFAIRS

• The lack of capacity and competition among shipbuilders has resulted in large backlogs of orders across six major Navy shipbuilding programs and a commercial shipbuilding sector that is not globally competitive,” the order reads.
  Trump Signs Order Aimed At Expanding America’s Shipbuilding Capacity

• This is a national security failure of the highest order and needs to be remedied immediately. The question now is how to undo this situation.
  How did the U.S. let a high-level Chinese government official buy a building next to the White House?

  ACTUAL SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY

• First SpaceX launched eight Globalstar telecommunications satellites into orbit, its Falcon 9 rocket lifting off from Cape Canaveral Space Force station in Florida... Then, only about 45 minutes later it placed a classified payload into orbit for the Space Force, its Falcon 9 rocket lifting off from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California.
  SpaceX launches twice on opposite coasts
  
• Built by a startup, Stemrad, which estimated it reduced radiation from 40 to 60%.
  NASA tested a radiation-blocking vest during the unmanned Artemis-1 flight around the Moon in 2022

  CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE

• How the WNBA became another battlefield in America’s culture war.
  ‘MAGA Barbie’ And The Subaru Magoos
  
• “it’s non-negotiable”
  Bill Maher Says Immigrants Must Assimilate, Accept Western Civilization
  
• Reporters describe anyone who doesn’t embrace the whole activist trans agenda as “anti-trans.”
  War on Rowling Continues (Sans Facts)
  
• This decision exemplifies her conservative values and what ought to be the values of American culture at large: we should want our mothers to be able to choose the life of full-time motherhood over career and job.
  Kudos to Karoline for making the based decision to prioritize motherhood
  
• ‘Their chatter about fertility rates was never about happy families or a prosperous nation,’ Marcotte writes, concluding that ‘Republicans will gladly sacrifice happiness and prosperity for the goal of subjugating women.’
  The Left Has No Idea What The Right Believes About Babies (Or Anything Else)
  
• But she is living out the feminist left’s antiquated mythology of “having it all” — updated with the false promise from the increasingly popular egg freezing industry that you can easily outwit Mother Nature.
  Miranda Devine: Titty-Caca AOC’s sad fertility journey is the perfect example of the left and right’s divide on children and family
  
• No one who lived through the past 10 years should allow Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to giggle away the hell called “woke” that she and Democrats inflicted on this country.
  Every Democrat Should Be Asked: What About ‘Woke 1’ Was ‘Crazy’?
  
• Christian Toto: The DailyWire+ comedy speaks to WNBA's current identity crisis
  Release ‘Lady Ballers’ on This Free Speech Platform … Now
  
• Anyone still clinging to the mythical belief slavery is an evil of the white man in which only minorities suffered, must be dispossessed of that illusion.
  Yes, Jameela, There Was (And Still Is) Slavery

  HITHER & YON

• The two then presented their discovery to the Cape May Whale Watch and Research Center, which confirmed that the tooth was a bona fide fossil. 
  Massive tooth of 3.6M-year-old megalodon — largest shark to ever live — discovered on Jersey Shore

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