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Prima Moronus
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 25, 2026 01:55 PM (u73oe) 2
Duke hath nooded.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 25, 2026 01:56 PM (NcvvS) 3
Hah, that was macgroober and not MacGyver
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:00 PM (3uBP9) 4
I can't wait for the AI version of these classic TV shows.
Posted by: goatexchange at May 25, 2026 02:01 PM (hyS0X) 5
I never watched Family Matters. I missed all of 1980s tv, I think. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 02:02 PM (n7rxJ) 6
I'm only 29, but I was not watching 'Family Matters' way before a lot of you were not watching it.
Posted by: goatexchange at May 25, 2026 02:04 PM (hyS0X) 7
Re: student loans
Having paid 9.5% interest for 10 years on a rather large amount that was not even deductible, I have ZERO sympathy for student loan debtors. My graduate degree was on scholarship. No one forced you to borrow money to go to school. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 02:04 PM (RIvkX) 8
I never watched Family Matters. I missed all of 1980s tv, I think.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 02:02 PM (n7rxJ) Likewise. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 02:05 PM (8zz6B) 9
Family Matters -- is that the one with Michael J. Fox playing a Reagan-loving Republican?
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 02:05 PM (J4Dwc) 10
>>I never watched Family Matters. I missed all of 1980s tv, I think.
Same here. Too much else going on most evenings. Posted by: Nazdar at May 25, 2026 02:07 PM (NcvvS) 11
>>> Family Matters -- is that the one with Michael J. Fox playing a Reagan-loving Republican?
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 02:05 PM (J4Dwc) No, think Steve Urkel, supposedly a spinoff from Perfect Strangers. Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:07 PM (3uBP9) 12
Family Matters -- is that the one with Michael J. Fox playing a Reagan-loving Republican?
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 02:05 PM (J4Dwc) ==== Family Matters was black middle class with weird neighbor kid. Family ties was rich white lib parents and conservative kid. The kid was a caricature but the parents were very very caring. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 02:08 PM (RIvkX) 13
I never watched Family Matters. Disappoint.
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 02:08 PM (LHPAg) 14
I didn't see Larry, Darryl and Darryl.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 02:08 PM (Cqx++) 15
Valerie's Family was the one where they killed off Valerie Harper when she wanted too much money.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 02:09 PM (RIvkX) 16
You can't trust anything you see these days. AI is mostly a menace. I expect I'll see myself out there somewhere, but I don't care.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 02:09 PM (D1E+2) 17
I didn't watch any of the family sitcoms at the time because they did not have enough cool vehicles, helicopters, sports cars, etc.. going fast and blasting things which was more my scene.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:10 PM (3uBP9) 18
Gave Dutchess a bath for her vet visit tomorrow. No creepy crawlies but she was very dusty and dirty. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 02:10 PM (HdYcL) Posted by: DaveA at May 25, 2026 02:10 PM (FhXTo) 20
No one forced you to borrow money to go to school.
Posted by: San Franpsycho Well, no one forced them to get a masters and a doctorate in Liberal Crybaby Studies. Griggs vs Duke Power forced them to go to school for something. Maybe they should have tried trucking or welding. Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 02:10 PM (VHUov) 21
5 I never watched Family Matters. I missed all of 1980s tv, I think.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 02:02 PM (n7rxJ) Ditto. 1990's too. Posted by: Joemarine at May 25, 2026 02:10 PM (y171U) 22
I didn't see Larry, Darryl and Darryl.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 02:08 PM (Cqx++) ==== I actually did watch that regularly and the last episode where they made it a bad dream from the first Bob Newhart Show I just about lost my mind. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 02:11 PM (RIvkX) 23
You can't trust anything you see these days. AI is mostly a menace. I expect I'll see myself out there somewhere, but I don't care.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone That's when you know you've Made It. Someone cared enough to try to smear you with AI. Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 02:11 PM (VHUov) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 02:12 PM (HdYcL) 25
This sock is so tight I have to ________ it to get it on.
Posted by: The Ghost of Gene Rayburn at May 25, 2026 02:12 PM (vFG9F) 26
Front page iOS bug is back with a vengeance. Keeps reloading even if you try to stop it.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2026 02:13 PM (uAllE) 27
There was a time right after I graduated from college and living alone for the first time I watched a lot of network TV at night. Wednesday night everyone came over to eat and watch "St. Elsewhere." They ended that series as a vision in the mind of the main character's autistic son.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 02:14 PM (RIvkX) 28
Family Ties had Michael J Fox. Justine Bateman who became based, Michael Gross who became an action actor in Tremors and Merideth Baxter Birney who became a lesbian
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 02:14 PM (hpwtA) 29
iOS = inferior Operating System
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 02:14 PM (8zz6B) 30
>>> Front page iOS bug is back with a vengeance. Keeps reloading even if you try to stop it.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2026 02:13 PM (uAllE) I've never had it quit reloading. It's been doing that for over a year. Using Safari helps a bit. But Brave is unusable to read the HQ on iOS. Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:15 PM (3uBP9) 31
Family Ties had Michael J Fox. Justine Bateman who became based, Michael Gross who became an action actor in Tremors and Merideth Baxter Birney who became a lesbian
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 02:14 PM (hpwtA) Megadeath Baxter Birney became a heavy metal musician. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 02:16 PM (8zz6B) 32
>>> Michael Gross who became an action actor in Tremors and Merideth Baxter Birney who became a lesbian
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 02:14 PM (hpwtA) Gross definitely got a wife upgrade going to Tremors. Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:16 PM (3uBP9) 33
I actually succeeded in getting Boy F. to work in the garden with me this morning. He clipped some of the boxwood. He only agrees maybe 1 in 10 times I ask.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 02:16 PM (RIvkX) 34
But Brave is unusable to read the HQ on iOS.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:15 PM (3uBP9) Working just fine here, running under Linux Mint. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 02:17 PM (8zz6B) 35
The kid was a caricature but the parents were very very caring.
And yet, who became the superstar. And Michael Gross was a strange actor to see in Tremors. Awesome role. Not bad casting, per se, just strange. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 02:17 PM (kYmoU) 36
I mean, what can you say, that show would be better than 99.9 pct of the crap that's on TV.
Although I hear Spider Noir is PFA, will be binge watching it once all 8 season 1 episodes are available to liberate. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 02:18 PM (XV/Pl) 37
Valerie's Family had Jason Bateman.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 02:18 PM (RIvkX) 38
80s sitcoms still had laugh tracks, which is now off-putting.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 25, 2026 02:18 PM (XvL8K) 39
And Michael Gross was a strange actor to see in Tremors. Awesome role. Not bad casting, per se, just strange.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 02:17 PM (kYmoU) ==== Certainly against type but he was great. Like MTM in Ordinary People. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 02:19 PM (RIvkX) 40
And Michael Gross was a strange actor to see in Tremors. Awesome role. Not bad casting, per se, just strange.
Knowing that he was a flaming lib just made it funnier. Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2026 02:20 PM (uAllE) 41
I was on my way to check on the crawl space again after all the rain and spotted a yuge snake in that side of the yard. So that is not happening. I think it's a "good" snake but still. Nope.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 25, 2026 02:20 PM (0SdQT) 42
>>>That's when you know you've Made It. Someone cared enough to try to smear you with AI.
Posted by: mikeski >If they smear me with Sydney Sweeney or Paige Spiranac, I'm okay with that. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 02:21 PM (D1E+2) 43
>>> Working just fine here, running under Linux Mint.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 02:17 PM (8zz6B) Yes, Brave works fine everywhere else. But there is actually no Brave on iOS either, or any browser but Safari, webkit. Apple does not allow any browser backend to be installed on their phone hardware. Brave on iOS is just a skin of Safari webkit and it is not as functional as it is elsewhere. Much more limited, and who knows what apple is doing in the background. Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:21 PM (3uBP9) 44
80s sitcoms still had laugh tracks, which is now off-putting.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 25, 2026 02:18 PM (XvL8K) Yeah, 'this is funny stuff here, you gotta laugh'. I saw a game show live in NYC in 66. It had applause lights. I was barely 18 but remember thinking 'what did they do to get applause?'. Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 02:22 PM (LHPAg) 45
Much more limited, and who knows what apple is doing in the background.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:21 PM (3uBP9) Evil, probably. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 02:22 PM (8zz6B) 46
I strongly recommend the Autarky app for iOS users, or the equivalent outside of iOS. It allows you to block requests external to the site youre on. Some of the files being served by the ad server on the AOSHQ look a lot like malicious files.
Then donate to the blog. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 02:23 PM (kYmoU) 47
Working just fine here, running under Linux Mint.
It's very specific to iOS. Not a problem for macOS. I suspect it's something to do with one of the rotating ads. Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2026 02:23 PM (uAllE) 48
Knowing that he was a flaming lib just made it funnier.
I didnt know he was a flaming lib, just that he played one on Family Ties. And yes, it made it funnier. But they really were a great couple in Tremors. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 02:24 PM (kYmoU) 49
>>> I was on my way to check on the crawl space again after all the rain and spotted a yuge snake in that side of the yard. So that is not happening. I think it's a "good" snake but still. Nope.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 25, 2026 02:20 PM (0SdQT) Whenever I had to descend into a crawlspace I had a whole war ritual where I'd don a plastic suit I made then ducktaped all the openings. Just a few air holes. Then I would have my wife stand lookout while I went in. For me it was bugs. Not a fan. I don't like the idea of bugs getting up in my business. That Indiana Jones scene with the bugs? Nope. Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:25 PM (3uBP9) 50
It's very specific to iOS. Not a problem for macOS. I suspect it's something to do with one of the rotating ads.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2026 02:23 PM (uAllE) I would not put it past Apple to buy an ad from that adserver, and deliberately make the ad screw up iOS, in order to force you away from "the evil MAGA site". Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 02:25 PM (8zz6B) 51
I'd really like to see a crossover of Rockford Files, Three's Company, Love Boat and CHiPs.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 25, 2026 02:27 PM (Vh9CX) 52
They should do a Shitty TV Shows Family Matters Theme Song.
Posted by: Zombie McLean Stevenson at May 25, 2026 02:28 PM (OoF9t) 53
Breaking! Update on my birthday list: I was just handed an Amex and told to buy anything I wanted from the list except the Dior bag. lol.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 02:28 PM (p4NUW) 54
>>> >If they smear me with Sydney Sweeney or Paige Spiranac, I'm okay with that.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 02:21 PM (D1E+2) Yes, I'll have those toasted with a schmear of the Sydney Sweeney on the everything and schmear of Paige Spiranac on the plain. To go. Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:29 PM (3uBP9) 55
A hymns for the fallen.
[Minneapolis] Mayor Jacob Frey @MayorFrey Today, we remember George Floyd, who was murdered by a former Minneapolis police officer six years ago. That moment changed our city forever. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 25, 2026 02:31 PM (lOimf) 56
> Griggs vs Duke Power forced them to go to school for something. Maybe they should have tried trucking or welding.
Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 02:10 PM (VHUov) As I understand it, "job training" schools (truck driving, welding, cosmetology, etc.) actually have some of the highest student loan default rates. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 25, 2026 02:31 PM (IG3/x) 57
It's very specific to iOS. Not a problem for macOS. I suspect it's something to do with one of the rotating ads.
Posted by: Oddbob I would not put it past Apple to buy an ad from that adserver, and deliberately make the ad screw up iOS, in order to force you away from "the evil MAGA site". Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon It's tedious, but there's a way to interrupt the infinite reloads on iOS (any browser, since they're all safari.) You have to let the "loading" bar get to 50-90%, then hit the "x" on the address bar to stop loading. That stops the reloading. Hit the "comments" link and then its okay. It's funny that the auto-reload works even with javascript disabled. It's also funny that an ad would want to do that, since it will only stop reloading when the ad server sends up some other ad that doesn't do it. So you wrote an ad with special code to..... make sure nobody ever sees your ad? Bangalore's D- team, at your service! Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 02:31 PM (VHUov) 58
Whenever I had to descend into a crawlspace I had a whole war ritual where I'd don a plastic suit I made then ducktaped all the openings. Just a few air holes. Then I would have my wife stand lookout while I went in. For me it was bugs. Not a fan. I don't like the idea of bugs getting up in my business. That Indiana Jones scene with the bugs? Nope.
Posted by: banana Dream --- Mine was recently encapsulated (and dehumidifier and sump pump installed) and sealed up for rodent exclusion so I have been brave enough to get in there a couple times. There is still water getting in, which has got to get resolved. I can't be going down there with a 3 gallon shop vac after every rain. The few times I've been down there I immediately get in the shower afterwards. I don't know how guys work in those space for a living, but I appreciate them very much. Posted by: screaming in digital at May 25, 2026 02:32 PM (0SdQT) 59
Apropos:
For Rush fans, Rick Beato uploaded his interview of Alex Lifeson. He had previously released his video with Geddy. I have a sneaking suspicion he's going to interview Anika as well. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 02:32 PM (XV/Pl) 60
A hymns for the fallen.
[Minneapolis] Mayor Jacob Frey @MayorFrey Today, we remember George Floyd, who was murdered by a former Minneapolis police officer six years ago. That moment changed our city forever. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Same comment as the last thread..... He was a soldier in the only war Frey cares about. * spits * Posted by: mikeski Posted by: mikeski again at May 25, 2026 02:33 PM (VHUov) 61
He had previously released his video with Geddy.
I have a sneaking suspicion he's going to interview Anika as well. Posted by: Thomas Bender --- Thanks for the heads up. I really enjoyed the Geddy interview. We've got tickets for a show in Fort Worth next month. Posted by: screaming in digital at May 25, 2026 02:36 PM (0SdQT) 62
>>> Breaking! Update on my birthday list: I was just handed an Amex and told to buy anything I wanted from the list except the Dior bag. lol.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 02:28 PM (p4NUW) Right when my daughter started talking and reasoning well enough and being able to get around for a long duration I took her to the mall to pick out a gift for her mom. Her first Mother's day gift. I think it was around 3yo. We get there and nothing interests her until, she starts bolting for this one store. No idea what it was. Coach. She wouldn't leave, had to get something there. Purses. I got one with ladybugs she loved. Wife still carries it everywhere. $$$$ Chicks man. Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 02:37 PM (3uBP9) 63
Happy birthday Piper!
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 25, 2026 02:38 PM (0SdQT) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 25, 2026 02:38 PM (zZu0s) 65
I would not put it past Apple to buy an ad from that adserver, and deliberately make the ad screw up iOS, in order to force you away from "the evil MAGA site".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon --- Little Timmy's always looking out for you. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:39 PM (zfQ1S) Rescue Cuties Open Thread![]() Passchendaele, 1917 Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
How do you bully a donkey?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (bss/y) 2
read the content
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (73/SM) 3
Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (Ia/+0) 4
Heh. Seattle people are erecting street barricades to keep out goons doing drive bys of houses.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (bss/y) 5
Seattle people are erecting street barricades to keep out goons doing drive bys of houses.
Drive-by shootings? I know the Latinos kicked the gangstas out of Compton, but I didn't realize they'd gone to Seattle. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:31 PM (QZThv) Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2026 12:31 PM (n5tGW) Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:32 PM (3ek7K) 8
All of the other donkeys used to laugh and call him names.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:32 PM (Cqx++) Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 25, 2026 12:32 PM (l26NL) 10
I would think in the picture they would be Canadian
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 12:32 PM (Ia/+0) 11
Drive-by shootings? I know the Latinos kicked the gangstas out of Compton, but I didn't realize they'd gone to Seattle.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:31 PM (QZThv) The story is on insty, let me get a link. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:33 PM (bss/y) 12
https://tinyurl.com/yc37v427
Aurora Avenue neighbors revolt, blocking off street access after yet another shooting Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:33 PM (bss/y) 13
8 All of the other donkeys used to laugh and call him names.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:32 PM (Cqx++) *types* *deletes* Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:34 PM (bss/y) 14
Mid-day cafe?
Posted by: mindful webworker - lurking in the margins at May 25, 2026 12:34 PM (0poB+) Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:35 PM (qrzX6) 16
Buying a new car today. Since I'm sick, did all negotiating on text yesterday and today til bottom line agreement. Then, I sent the spouse for testdrive and paperwork with our favorite former minor league ballplayer sales guy. Spouse comes back, picks me up, I sign papers outside at the dealer for 5 minutes (so no one else gets sick) and come home. Spouse should be home with the car in an hour.
This is the way to buy a car from a dealer. I now love this dealer. Finally replaced the 2nd of the wrecked cars from last fall. Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 12:35 PM (tOcjL) 17
“For more than three years, many of us have been engaging almost daily with city officials, law enforcement, SDOT, and other local agencies to find both immediate and long-term solutions,” the letter read. “Homes have been hit by gunfire, narrowly missing children. Our military veterans, thinking they’d found a peaceful neighborhood, are now suffering from PTSD.”
Three years huh? What happened back then? Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:35 PM (bss/y) 18
This is the way to buy a car from a dealer. I now love this dealer.
Finally replaced the 2nd of the wrecked cars from last fall. Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 12 What did you get? Always fun to get a new car! Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 12:36 PM (p4NUW) Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:36 PM (qrzX6) 20
18 This is the way to buy a car from a dealer. I now love this dealer.
Finally replaced the 2nd of the wrecked cars from last fall. Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 12 What did you get? Always fun to get a new car! Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 12:36 PM (p4NUW) Another new Suburau Imprezza. 2026 model. Now, it's a sport. Has a few more safety features and bells and whistles than last year's (sunroof - fine - if it's the cheapest on the lot). $27.7K out the door with tax, titles, fees, everything included. I asked for something new at $27K...and we got to that car and that number, which was fine. It's another perfect car for the spouse and college kid (and the learning to drive 3rd). We don't drive these much, but we do need the 3-5 miles/day. Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 12:40 PM (tOcjL) 21
Three years huh? What happened back then?
Exactly. And the city councilwoman quoted blames guns of course. Her statement is exactly like the "crowd attacked by car" headlines everyone mocks now. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:40 PM (QZThv) 22
19 Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 12:35 PM (tOcjL)
Carvana Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:36 PM (qrzX6) I got burned on used for my last car buy last year and had to walk...I don't buy used now...ever. Too much lying about the condition and damage. Don't get me started on Hertz's "certified" used car sales in Springfield... Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 12:41 PM (tOcjL) 23
"Attacked by her own mother"
Poor donkey. My sister from another species. At least she got a loving caring family out of it. Posted by: Guess I'm the real jackass at May 25, 2026 12:43 PM (TbWk/) 24
And the car is sapphire blue which makes the youngest happy b/c we had all "boring" car colors before...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 12:45 PM (tOcjL) 25
Almost time for grilled burgers.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:45 PM (qrzX6) 26
I have many veterans in my family history, from the Revolution, Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Cold War (me) and more. To all of those who have paid the ultimate price for my freedom, thanks, thanks pal.
Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2026 12:46 PM (wvc0i) 27
26 Almost time for grilled burgers.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:45 PM (qrzX6) I get to go to work. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:46 PM (bss/y) 28
For a Benjamin or two, setup an appointment for a good garage to inspect any used car purchase you’re thinking about. These guys will know right away.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 12:47 PM (gzzK/) 29
My kid's barrel racing horse opens stall doors. A notorious escape artist. So they just pasture the horse. Her mom was the same way and probably taught her how to escape.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 12:47 PM (3uBP9) 30
the dead marshes are they
Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 12:48 PM (gKWVE) 31
Watching the ceremony at Arlington. Hegseth had a nice speech.
Some dude is crooning now with the band and it’s awful. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2026 12:48 PM (A5RD0) 32
And the car is sapphire blue which makes the youngest happy b/c we had all "boring" car colors before...
It's alarmingly difficult to get a new car that isn't Communist Humiliation Monochrome. Same with new/flipped houses. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:48 PM (QZThv) 33
Afternoon Ace
Passchendaele was a horror . Haig fired something like 1.6 m shells at the Somme, about 2x as many at Passchendaele. The English were advancing and the the rain started. Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 12:48 PM (hpwtA) 34
Option Package: 23 $1,900.00
Blind Spot Detection w/ Rear Cross-Traffic Alert Automatic Emergency Steering Emergency Lane Keep Assist Power Moonroof Heated Seats, Wipers, and Exterior Mirrors Yeah, maybe I'll actually let the kids drive me somewhere with the heated seats Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 12:48 PM (tOcjL) 35
Almost time for grilled burgers.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:45 PM (qrzX6) I get to go to work. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:46 PM (bss/y) Retirement is all it's made out to be. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:49 PM (qrzX6) 36
JD is up.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2026 12:49 PM (A5RD0) 37
Rain mostly gone, still no sun out for me
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 12:50 PM (Ia/+0) 38
Retirement is all it's made out to be.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:49 PM (qrzX6) Eh, double time. I did get yesterday off to go decorate graves, which was the important thing. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:50 PM (bss/y) 39
79F here and not a cloud in the sky.
Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2026 12:51 PM (wvc0i) 40
I see the Army has blown past their recruiting targets for the second year in a row. The Democrats must be weeping, because guaranteed most recruits now aren't gonna play along with Mark Kelly's "ignore orders that the DNC hasn't approved" game.
Look for hilariously obviously rigged voting this fall as their next attempt. Just saw that the infamous Maricopa County has illegal windows in their mail-in ballots positioned to allow workers to easily see (D) or (R) and file them accordingly. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:52 PM (QZThv) 41
I'm going to once again assume my role as the neighborhood drug pusher. For dogs. The vet approved hemp pills. There were a few fireworks last night and our little terrier just sits there and trembles like it's the end of the world. So tonight before the festivities begin I'll get her hopped up on the prescribed level of goofballs.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 12:53 PM (3uBP9) 42
DJT is up.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 25, 2026 12:54 PM (u73oe) 43
"A Google Street View image of N. 97th Street and Aurora Avenue N. in Seattle shows a woman walking mostly undressed in front of the Public Storage building during the day."
Well, that was a waste of time. Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 12:54 PM (J4Dwc) 44
Look for hilariously obviously rigged voting this fall as their next attempt. Just saw that the infamous Maricopa County has illegal windows in their mail-in ballots positioned to allow workers to easily see (D) or (R) and file them accordingly.
-- I've heard the rumor that the governor ballot in CA is 44 names long. The top two Dems are position 1 and 2. The top to Rs are at 42 and 43. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:55 PM (73/SM) 45
The Royal Canadian Air Force is fooked.
The Canadian Min of Def announced May 19th that the Snowbirds will cease operations at the end of the 2026 air show season. But they promise this is not the end of the Snowbirds as they will be back 'in the 2030s.' Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 12:55 PM (2GVsD) 46
It's alarmingly difficult to get a new car that isn't Communist Humiliation Monochrome. Same with new/flipped houses.
Posted by: Ian S. My Hyundai Kona is a bright yellow green. I picked the most unGrandma car on the lot. The grandkids love it. Posted by: Tuna at May 25, 2026 12:56 PM (lJ0H4) 47
House flippers are cultural terrorists, transforming beautiful houses with character into bland white McMansions.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 12:57 PM (2GVsD) 48
The Royal Canadian Air Force is fooked.
The Canadian Min of Def announced May 19th that the Snowbirds will cease operations at the end of the 2026 air show season. But they promise this is not the end of the Snowbirds as they will be back 'in the 2030s.' --- Elbows up! I said, get those elbows up--you goofy grey losers!! Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:57 PM (73/SM) 49
>>> "A Google Street View image of N. 97th Street and Aurora Avenue N. in Seattle shows a woman walking mostly undressed in front of the Public Storage building during the day."
Well, that was a waste of time. Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 12:54 PM (J4Dwc) There's a big difference between all nude and mostly undressed. Mostly undressed is slightly clothed. All nude, well there's only one thing you can do... Watch her jiggle and then toss her loose change!" Posted by: Miracle Max at May 25, 2026 12:59 PM (3uBP9) 50
Ace will probably have a post on it but The Mongoloadian and Mock Yoda had the lowest box-office opening of any Star Wars movie, this include SoyLo.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 01:00 PM (XV/Pl) 51
House flippers are cultural terrorists, transforming beautiful houses with character into bland white McMansions.
Posted by: Anna Puma -------- Millennial grey, and darker is the trend here. Drab. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 01:00 PM (XeU6L) 52
Mango and Goop are true loss leaders in the Star Wars franchise.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 01:01 PM (2GVsD) 53
Canada is a clown country.
Posted by: Bozo The Clown at May 25, 2026 01:02 PM (OoF9t) 54
These are all YouTubes, but it might get harder to find that cute, heartwarming content on X anymore. X has killed a bunch of those monstro accounts like The Figen and Massimo because their whole business model (they monetized) ripped off other X accounts. Just go get someone else's video on X, crop off the watermark, and repost it and get all the impressions. Mario Nawfal was another one. A rewarding Memorial Day to you all. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:03 PM (n7rxJ) 55
32 And the car is sapphire blue which makes the youngest happy b/c we had all "boring" car colors before...
It's alarmingly difficult to get a new car that isn't Communist Humiliation Monochrome. Same with new/flipped houses. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:48 My little car is rebel green with red John Cooper Works accents, the seats are tan quilted leather. Just enough, so it isn’t over the top, but fun. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 01:04 PM (p4NUW) 56
@45 I wonder if Canada will exist in the 2030s
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 01:04 PM (hpwtA) 57
Passchendaele Museum - Battle of Passchendaele
In part, ‘Passchendaele’ was not only an episode in the history of the First World War it became a concept, an international symbol of the great futility of the violence of war in its most horrific form. It was at this location where in 1917 almost 600,000 soldiers perished for a movement of the frontline of only a few kilometers. Passchendaele is also a symbol for many nations, who made their mark here and wanted to establish themselves as a nation after the war." Dates Jul 31, 1917 – Nov 10, 1917 Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 01:05 PM (NFX2v) 58
Just finished Brian Blessed's book 'Panther in my Kitchen' which is mostly about all the animals he's adopted and fostered of the years....and it's been a lot. He seems to spent most of his money on animals over the years. Which is nice. Actor, amusing character, bully basher and animal lover.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 25, 2026 01:05 PM (xcxpd) 59
Poor donkey. My sister from another species. At least she got a loving caring family out of it. Posted by: Guess I'm the real jackass ============= No! Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:06 PM (n7rxJ) 60
Morning, Ace, and Horde folk. We did our three hours up on the roof. Scattered clouds, and a little breeze, but eventually, the Sun makes the roof surface so hot that working there becomes uncomfortable. But we are better than halfway through laying the shingles. More courses done than remain to be done.
Taking a short cool-down break before I hit the showers. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 01:07 PM (8zz6B) 61
Bake ze cake!
They never stop. Kansas City is arguing it can force Christians marriage counselors to counsel homosexual "married" couples. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 01:07 PM (73/SM) 62
>>My little car is rebel green with red John Cooper Works accents, the seats are tan quilted leather. Just enough, so it isn’t over the top, but fun.
I just sold my late wife's Mini Clubman S after finally getting the title in my name. 2.0L turbo matched to a 6-speed manual transmission. Chili Red. Fun car to drive, but at 6'4" I didn't fit into it very well. Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 01:09 PM (J4Dwc) 63
Were generals really that stupid, or was it some sort of gentleman’s agreement to kill everyone off?? It doesn’t make any sense
Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 01:09 PM (txZoB) 64
How do you bully a donkey? Posted by: Aetius451AD =============== The other donkeys were the bullies. Animals, sheesh. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:10 PM (n7rxJ) 65
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 01:04 PM (p4NUW)
John Cooper Works? You have a Mini? Nice. My wife had a 2012 Cooper S; thing was a joy to drive but the run flat tires were brutal. She probably would have kept it but the our local BMW dealer was not very nice to her after she had an electrical issue so she ended up trading it when the lease was up. Impreza Sport sounds nice; I've been doing a little reading about them; still have time on my lease for my Legacy but I need a hatch as my senior dog is getting to the age i don't want her jumping out of the back seat to get out. Posted by: Nelly at May 25, 2026 01:11 PM (6+ehB) 66
They never stop
——- They won’t be happy till they can force Catholic nuns to abort babies on Halloween at taxpayer expense Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 01:11 PM (txZoB) 67
But they promise this is not the end of the Snowbirds as they will be back 'in the 2030s.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 12:55 PM (2GVsD) With some flippin' turboprop trainer planes. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 01:12 PM (8zz6B) 68
Kansas City is arguing it can force Christians marriage counselors to counsel homosexual "married" couples. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice ============== It never ceases to amaze me that people insist on receiving services from people who don't want to render them. What kind of service does that get you? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:13 PM (n7rxJ) 69
AoP
Article I saw seems to imply the Canadian government will even outsource to a private company IPT for the RCAF. Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 01:14 PM (2GVsD) 70
It never ceases to amaze me that people insist on receiving services from people who don't want to render them. What kind of service does that get you?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:13 PM (n7rxJ) The satisfaction of forcing them to violate their moral conscience. Because you hate them and want them to kill themselves or drive them out of work if they will not comply. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 01:15 PM (bss/y) 71
57 Passchendaele Museum - Battle of Passchendaele
In part, ‘Passchendaele’ was not only an episode in the history of the First World War it became a concept, an international symbol of the great futility of the violence of war in its most horrific form. It was at this location where in 1917 almost 600,000 soldiers perished for a movement of the frontline of only a few kilometers. Passchendaele is also a symbol for many nations, who made their mark here and wanted to establish themselves as a nation after the war." Dates Jul 31, 1917 – Nov 10, 1917 Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 01:05 PM (NFX2v) A soldier's body ca onlly die once, and yet he kept getting shot over and over. A diffrent breed. Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 01:16 PM (LHPAg) 72
@68
>>It never ceases to amaze me that people insist on receiving services from people who don't want to render them. It's not about rendering service, it's about bending the knee and conforming to the left's moral vision. As has been noted, if the right does not impose it's moral vision, the left will. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 01:16 PM (XV/Pl) 73
56 @45 I wonder if Canada will exist in the 2030s
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 01:04 PM (hpwtA) Sure, as part of a caliphate, not much of an existence. Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 01:17 PM (LHPAg) 74
@61 Slim Pickens had something to say about Kansas City faggots
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 01:17 PM (hpwtA) 75
61 Bake ze cake!
They never stop. Kansas City is arguing it can force Christians marriage counselors to counsel homosexual "married" couples. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 01:07 PM (73/SM) Can the couseling be "you need to end this marriage sham?" Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 01:18 PM (tOcjL) 76
It never ceases to amaze me that people insist on receiving services from people who don't want to render them. What kind of service does that get you?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:13 PM (n7rxJ) "You're queer, and your fake "marriage" is breaking up? What did you expect? To live happily ever after? Here's a Glock 17. Go home, shoot your partner, and then put the next round in your own brain. Your troubles will be over. You wanted counselling? You got counselling." Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 01:18 PM (8zz6B) 77
Spend most of GDP on social issues whats left for defense?
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 01:19 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 01:19 PM (3ek7K) 79
Moving story about a black soldier in the Union army during the Civil War/War between the states:
https://tinyurl.com/4u7yxmab Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2026 01:20 PM (dx3rC) 80
So KC is now run by Cultural Marxists
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 01:21 PM (Ia/+0) 81
Were generals really that stupid, or was it some sort of gentleman’s agreement to kill everyone off?? It doesn’t make any sense
Posted by: Common Tater _________ What's the alternative? There were no flanks from the North Sea to Switzerland. It was a matter of figuring out how to break a continuous front. The Germans did it first with infiltration tactics and combined arms in 1918, still used to this day. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 25, 2026 01:21 PM (XvL8K) 82
Aurora Avenue neighbors revolt, blocking off street access after yet another shooting
Posted by: Aetius451AD ------ That's going to seriously impact some hookers' income. Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 01:22 PM (mSL0+) Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 01:22 PM (Kt19C) 84
So KC is now run by Cultural Marxists
The model for the last 100 years: Democrats win once, install cheating, continue to win. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 01:24 PM (QZThv) 85
81 Were generals really that stupid, or was it some sort of gentleman’s agreement to kill everyone off?? It doesn’t make any sense
Posted by: Common Tater _________ What's the alternative? There were no flanks from the North Sea to Switzerland. It was a matter of figuring out how to break a continuous front. The Germans did it first with infiltration tactics and combined arms in 1918, still used to this day. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 25, 2026 01:21 PM (XvL8K) Defense in depth is a bitch kitty. Killing off hundreds of thousands of men per battle is....not sustainable. It literally killed England and France's manhood. What replaced it was evil and cowardice. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 25, 2026 01:24 PM (xcxpd) 86
71. A soldier's body ca only die once, and yet he kept getting shot over and over. A different breed.
Posted by: Eromero 👍 Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 01:25 PM (NFX2v) 87
I hate that perverted behavior is being pushed on those of us who don't believe in it. You're queer? Fine, stop trying to normalize it. Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 01:26 PM (3ek7K) 88
Can the couseling be "you need to end this marriage sham?"
Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 01:18 PM (tOcjL) Should be. Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 01:27 PM (kJmLc) 89
What's the alternative? There were no flanks from the North Sea to Switzerland. It was a matter of figuring out how to break a continuous front. The Germans did it first with infiltration tactics and combined arms in 1918, still used to this day.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 25, 2026 01:21 PM (XvL8K) Allies should have figured out a way to attack Berlin with paratroops. Parachutes existed then. They had some big bombers that could carry maybe 20 men in jump seats. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 01:28 PM (8zz6B) 90
You're queer? Fine, stop trying to normalize it.
Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 01:26 PM (3ek7K) That's pretty liberal of you. I'm more of a back in the closet and bold the door type of a person Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 01:28 PM (kJmLc) 91
60 Morning, Ace, and Horde folk. We did our three hours up on the roof. Scattered clouds, and a little breeze, but eventually, the Sun makes the roof surface so hot that working there becomes uncomfortable. But we are better than halfway through laying the shingles. More courses done than remain to be done.
Taking a short cool-down break before I hit the showers. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ----- We had, believe it or not, rain last night and early morning up here. Those clouds you had were the tail of that. They're predicting t-storms this afternoon. Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 01:30 PM (mSL0+) 92
Allies should have figured out a way to attack Berlin with paratroops. Parachutes existed then. They had some big bombers that could carry maybe 20 men in jump seats.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon _______ Bismarck, referring to the tiny size of the British army at his time, said "If the English should land on our soil, I shall have them arrested." Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 25, 2026 01:32 PM (XvL8K) 93
The generals really were that stupid. None of them had studied the American Civil War and thought that frontal attacks on heavily fortified positions was a good thing to do.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 01:36 PM (qFwJc) 94
How do you bully a donkey?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM Quite possibly whoever does so is an ass. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2026 01:37 PM (0sNs1) 95
Idiot Mayor Frey of Minneapolis remembers George Floyd on Memorial Day. Post at Twitchy. Eat more Somali food you asshole
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 01:37 PM (hpwtA) 96
Think after watching Tora Tora Tora should go visit my parents
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 01:37 PM (Ia/+0) 97
I can't help scrolling through stupid liberal YouTube accounts like Pod Save America and Strict Scrutiny (3 stupid lefty female legal scholars who, naturally, teach at top law schools). Anyway, in the end it's good news because they're all in a state of panic and horror over recent developments. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:39 PM (n7rxJ) 98
Were generals really that stupid, or was it some sort of gentleman’s agreement to kill everyone off?? It doesn’t make any sense
Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 01:09 PM (txZoB) Slow to absorb the realities of new battlefield technology, intolerant of change, stilted thinking, and inflexible, top down leadership, from a time when massed formations and charges were the predominant tactic to a time of mechanized warfare including interlocking fields of machine gun fire, precisely targeted artillery using aerial surveillance. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 01:40 PM (Drusy) 99
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I hate that perverted behavior is being pushed on those of us who don't believe in it. You're queer? Fine, stop trying to normalize it. Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 01:26 PM (3ek7K) Some of that issue is there is a disordered craving to be repulsive and demand that others be subjected to it. If it's normalized some will be unhappy that they can no longer impose their dysfunctional behavior on the normies and delight in their discomfort. It's almost like some people prove to themselves that they matter by having a visible impact on others and it's easier/more entertaining to have a negative impact than a positive one. Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 25, 2026 01:40 PM (FMtrg) 100
Kansas City is arguing it can force Christians marriage counselors to counsel homosexual "married" couples.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 01:07 PM To be fair, being from Kansas City, you know they don't need interpretive dance counseling. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2026 01:41 PM (0sNs1) 101
00 Kansas City is arguing it can force Christians marriage counselors to counsel homosexual "married" couples.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 01:07 PM To be fair, being from Kansas City, you know they don't need interpretive dance counseling. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2026 01:41 PM (0sNs1) Doodah. Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 01:43 PM (LHPAg) 102
My rescue cutie is not happy about the rain. He doesn’t understand why mama and daddy are here but no one is taking him on an adventure.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 01:43 PM (p4NUW) 103
There are also tons of a new type of content creator out there: people who barely dress up and do little character sketches. They don't use sets -- just their crummy apartments. This is Killa Kay doing "a black mom helping you with your math homework." youtube.com/watch?v=cXVVfPlnFU8 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:43 PM (n7rxJ) 104
I re-watched the movie "T-34" yesterday. Don't miss it.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 25, 2026 01:44 PM (wVcYX) 105
So KC is now run by Cultural Marxists
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 01:21 PM (Ia/+0) A bunch of Kansas City F*ggots! Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 25, 2026 01:45 PM (IifvS) 106
I read AEF wasn't in on Passchendaele, there were some USA medical and engineering personnel attached to allied forces in this the 3rd Battle of Ypres 1917.
Truly wicked fighting. Posted by: torabora at May 25, 2026 01:45 PM (KtOUo) 107
Wanted to let everyone know that Inspector was released from the hospital Saturday night. Thank you all for your prayers. I'm sure they helped in the speedy resolution of the sepsis.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2026 01:45 PM (lFFaq) 108
Thats great Polliwog.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 25, 2026 01:46 PM (IifvS) 109
Just finished Brian Blessed's book 'Panther in my Kitchen' which is mostly about all the animals he's adopted and fostered of the years....and it's been a lot. He seems to spent most of his money on animals over the years. Which is nice. Actor, amusing character, bully basher and animal lover.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 25, 2026 01:05 PM (xcxpd) he is also a pro level mountaineer and believes in Yetis. Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 01:47 PM (rbvCR) Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 01:48 PM (Kt19C) 111
What sort of government cunt would invoke Floyd on Memorial Day? No matter how much you hate these MFers, it ain’t enough.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 01:48 PM (txZoB) 112
Wanted to let everyone know that Inspector was released from the hospital Saturday night. Thank you all for your prayers. I'm sure they helped in the speedy resolution of the sepsis.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2026 01:45 PM (lFFaq) some very welcome good news! Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 01:50 PM (8zz6B) 113
You got counselling."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May AOP! Oh my goodness! This is pretty harsh, lol! How about “we should explore what is missing in you that keeps you unhappy despite all of your supposed gains.” We both know all roads lead to one place. Can you imagine the better world we would live in if all the empty holes in people’s souls were filled with the love of our Father? The glory he offers to us, despite how broken we are, is a source of peace unlike any other. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 01:51 PM (pZEOD) 114
112 Wanted to let everyone know that Inspector was released from the hospital Saturday night. Thank you all for your prayers. I'm sure they helped in the speedy resolution of the sepsis.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2026 01:45 PM (lFFaq) some very welcome good news! Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 01:50 PM Seconded! Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 01:53 PM (pZEOD) 115
speedy resolution of the sepsis.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2026 01:45 PM (lFFaq) Wonderful news. That sepsis goes real bad real fast. Posted by: Count de Monet at May 25, 2026 01:53 PM (wVcYX) 116
Were generals really that stupid, or was it some sort of gentleman’s agreement to kill everyone off?? It doesn’t make any sense
Posted by: Common Tater ---- In the Brit Army, the Officer Corp was almost all titled. Many of them, essentially inherited positions. Even disregarding the IQ cost of inbreeding, the lack of competition for command positions is going to produce suboptimal results. IOW, the Brit General Staff were all upper class twits. Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 01:53 PM (mSL0+) 117
Longest Day starting but should get going
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 01:54 PM (Ia/+0) 118
Cory "Sparticus" Booker (D-NJ) says Democrats are 'desperate' for fresh leaders, and pointed to three Democrats who he thinks represent the future of the party –– Sen. Jon Ossoff of Georgia, Texas Senate hopeful James Talarico and Roy Cooper, the former governor of North Carolina and current Senate candidate.
"People are suffering, people are hurting, and they're going to support the leaders, and I'm seeing this in Talarico, in Ossoff, in Cooper in North Carolina, that those leaders are stepping up and saying, 'I don't give a damn about parties. I care about people.' You cannot lead the people if they don't trust you, and that's what's lacking right now with the party apparatus.", said Booker. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2026 01:55 PM (0sNs1) Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 25, 2026 01:55 PM (6lIrI) 120
What sort of government cunt would invoke Floyd on Memorial Day? No matter how much you hate these MFers, it ain’t enough. Posted by: Common Tater =============== The kind that wants to stay one step ahead of Omar Fateh. A donkey, basically. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:55 PM (n7rxJ) 121
Nood
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 25, 2026 01:55 PM (u73oe) 122
Allies should have figured out a way to attack Berlin with paratroops. Parachutes existed then. They had some big bombers that could carry maybe 20 men in jump seats.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 01:28 PM (8zz6B) There was a League of Nations war game that had multiple bushfire wars like the Rif and the Gran Chaco being intervened by the Entente powers under League authority. One of the scenarios involved the US involved against the Paraguayans in a drop in the Gran Chaco, that was spearheaded by a combat drop of a Marine Expeditionary Unit from Zeppelin. Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 01:56 PM (rbvCR) 123
I have found something impossible to eat with a beard. Gyros. Impossible. Absolutely disgusting. They could show me eating gyros to teen girls to dissuade them from premarital sex. It's that bad.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 01:57 PM (3uBP9) 124
Cory "Sparticus" Booker (D-NJ) says Democrats are 'desperate' for fresh leaders, and pointed to three Democrats who he thinks represent the future of the party –– Sen. Jon Ossoff of Georgia, Texas Senate hopeful James Talarico and Roy Cooper, the former governor of North Carolina and current Senate candidate. Posted by: Duncanthrax =============== Haha, really? I just read that they're converging on Elizabeth Warner for 2028. Keep panicking, Dems! Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:59 PM (n7rxJ) 125
Passchendaele? Odd pic to post on U.S. Memorial Day.
Granted, over 300,000 British, Canadian, and French troops were killed there, which is horrifically tragic. But the US wasn't involved. Posted by: Gosport at May 25, 2026 02:00 PM (Vh6nj) 126
In the Brit Army, the Officer Corp was almost all titled. Many of them, essentially inherited positions. Even disregarding the IQ cost of inbreeding, the lack of competition for command positions is going to produce suboptimal results.
IOW, the Brit General Staff were all upper class twits. Posted by: buddhaha __________ The lions led by donkeys thing is largely a myth. They were doing their best in a completely changed environment. Machine guns and especially quick firing artillery were relatively new. Could they have learned better lessons from the Russo-Japanese and Balkan Wars? Maybe, but we're using the retrospectoscope. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 25, 2026 02:01 PM (XvL8K) 127
But they promise this is not the end of the Snowbirds as they will be back 'in the 2030s.'
Posted by: Anna Puma ----- Contingency planning. If Alberta actually separates, there's going to be an awful lot of belt tightening required. Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 02:01 PM (mSL0+) 128
Idiot Mayor Frey of Minneapolis remembers George Floyd on Memorial Day. Post at Twitchy. Eat more Somali food you asshole
Posted by: Smell the Glove He was a soldier in the only war Frey cares about. * spits * Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 02:07 PM (VHUov) 129
The lions led by donkeys thing is largely a myth. They were doing their best in a completely changed environment. Machine guns and especially quick firing artillery were relatively new. Could they have learned better lessons from the Russo-Japanese and Balkan Wars? Maybe, but we're using the retrospectoscope.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba ------ There is certainly a degree of myth there, but that doesn't explain much. It takes a certain level of detachment to send men into certain death, but the "detachment" produced by a lifetime of viewing the lower classes as not-quite real people made it possible to send those huge numbers of men for trivial gains. I fault them for not using their own "retrospectoscope". This was late in the war. They saw the result of these tactics in previous battles.They knew what was going to happen, and they did it anyway. Not just stupidity, but callous stupidity. Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 02:16 PM (mSL0+) 130
They knew what was going to happen, and they did it anyway. Not just stupidity, but callous stupidity.
Posted by: buddhaha ________ I don't believe that. I think the Brits truly thought the artillery preparation at the Somme would allow them to walk over the German lines. Also - and I haven't looked it up - but I'd be willing to bet that officers suffered higher casualty rates than the enlisted. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 25, 2026 02:22 PM (XvL8K) THE MORNING RANT: Student Loan Defaults and the 40-Year-Old, First-Time Home Owner
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Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (Ia/+0) 2
Hey-o!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (X8xt3) 3
Sad song
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (FtULh) 4
The Marxists promised free education, and the Auto-Pen administration tried to give them that
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:02 AM (Ia/+0) 5
I've seen stories on X where student loans are a new source of fraud. Both citizens and foreigners will get the loans, maybe attend a class or two, drop out, disappear. It's just another government program to be raided.
Isn't that awesome!?! Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 11:03 AM (X8xt3) 6
Let’s stop loading up today’s 18-year-olds with crushing debt that enriches bloated colleges, many of which are left-wing indoctrination factories.
But then we'd have to lower our tuition! Posted by: The University Fraud Complex at May 25, 2026 11:04 AM (zw+xd) Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Kt19C) 8
Buckles up for another vigorous discussion of whether or not Starbucks and DoorDash are responsible for the failure to launch of yutes today, assuming you still consider 40 to be young, which I do not.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t) 9
When my apartment burned down in... 2002 or 3, I moved back in with the parents. I wanted to try to get something positive out of all this shit and had about 40k in debt from school. I had a job, which was a plus.
So, I put about half of what I made toward the debt and half toward rebuilding a bank to be able to move out again. I did not just pay it off in one go, but got it paid off by 2007, after moving out again. Thank you Mom and Dad for always being there for me. It was actually really satisfying when there was only like .01 on one loan left and the gov said 'let's call it square.' I wanted to write a check for a penny. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (bss/y) 10
5 I've seen stories on X where student loans are a new source of fraud. Both citizens and foreigners will get the loans, maybe attend a class or two, drop out, disappear. It's just another government program to be raided.
Isn't that awesome!?! Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 11:03 How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n) 11
Hey, hey, keep your eyes off the endowments. That's OUR money!
Posted by: Uni's at May 25, 2026 11:06 AM (u/66v) 12
Obama's federalization of student loans turned every left-wing university into a Quality Learing Center. The fraud is the entire point, as are the make-work jobs for AWFLs (I saw recently that Yale has more administrators than undergrads, and many other universities are in a similar situation).
Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 11:07 AM (QZThv) 13
8 Buckles up for another vigorous discussion of whether or not Starbucks and DoorDash are responsible for the failure to launch of yutes today, assuming you still consider 40 to be young, which I do not.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t) I think the root of it is relationships, to be honest. Getting your shit together so a woman will have you is a lot of the motive force of history. That is a gigantic mess now. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:07 AM (bss/y) 14
Obama's federalization of student loans turned every left-wing university into a Quality Learing Center. The fraud is the entire point, as are the make-work jobs for AWFLs (I saw recently that Yale has more administrators than undergrads, and many other universities are in a similar situation).
I remember when he first proposed it. I said to my wife "they're just cultivating another group that owes them". I was right. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:08 AM (Riz8t) 15
I've seen stories on X where student loans are a new source of fraud. Both citizens and foreigners will get the loans, maybe attend a class or two, drop out, disappear.
Huh. Attendance is optional at our school! Posted by: Quality Learing Collige at May 25, 2026 11:08 AM (u/66v) 16
How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n) May be different now, but I got money which I then paid to the school. May be different, I dunno. Or depending on the loan. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:08 AM (bss/y) 17
I think the root of it is relationships, to be honest. Getting your shit together so a woman will have you is a lot of the motive force of history.
I couldn't agree more, even if at the time, you weren't consciously thinking that. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:09 AM (Riz8t) 18
So the message is that if you do not own a home at 40, you’re a loser and a failure?
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:10 AM (T6aVk) 19
May be different now, but I got money which I then paid to the school. May be different, I dunno. Or depending on the loan.
Yup. My wife knew a guy in grad school who did nothing, but got "loans" which he used to invest in real estate. I very much doubt he ever paid back a penny, or got a degree. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:10 AM (Riz8t) 20
For profit colleges and universities were major contributors to GOP politicians.
Blue state NY officers free tuition to families earning less than $80,000 I go to City University of New York. Tuition is $5000. I get a 7k fedPell Grant and a 3k HESC State grant.CUNY gives me back $5000 per year. I am over 75yo Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2026 11:10 AM (httTc) 21
The colleges are predators and the stupid young students their prey.
In the end, the taxpayer will get it in the ass, which they can wipe with the useless diplomas given out. Posted by: A Sucker Born Every Minute at May 25, 2026 11:10 AM (OoF9t) 22
I couldn't agree more, even if at the time, you weren't consciously thinking that.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:09 AM (Riz8t) No, but women being choosy about who they mated with meant you had to stand out from the pack. It was a positive thing. The opposite of a perverse incentive. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:11 AM (bss/y) 23
Yeah, they send you off to college, try to gain a little knowledge
But all you want to do is learn how to score Posted by: Zombie Jimmy Buffett at May 25, 2026 11:11 AM (wVcYX) 24
So the message is that if you do not own a home at 40, you’re a loser and a failure?
No, for some people, it doesn't make sense. The message is that if you default on your obligations, and then expect other people to pay them off, you're a loser. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:11 AM (Riz8t) 25
So the message is that if you do not own a home at 40, youre a loser and a failure?
And stop posting recipes for poverty meals! Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (kYmoU) 26
A major cure would be the full privatization of student loans. Good luck.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (T6aVk) 27
Even our trolls are olds.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (bss/y) 28
10 5 I've seen stories on X where student loans are a new source of fraud. Both citizens and foreigners will get the loans, maybe attend a class or two, drop out, disappear. It's just another government program to be raided.
Isn't that awesome!?! Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 11:03 How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n) No, not all loans go right to the schools...and for those that do, some schools are also fake and split the proceeds... Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (tOcjL) 29
Lizzy wouldn't doubt it.
Wouldn't put it past those who plotted to have educaion loans go through government to have it all collapse some day Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (Ia/+0) 30
16 How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n) May be different now, but I got money which I then paid to the school. May be different, I dunno. Or depending on the loan. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:08 AM With my MBA, the money went directly to the school and if there wasn’t enough, I paid the difference. But maybe different loan programs, like you said. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (Wmg4n) 31
Odds paul took the brown acid..
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (gbGyB) 32
No, but women being choosy about who they mated with meant you had to stand out from the pack. It was a positive thing. The opposite of a perverse incentive.
I'll never forget the first time after college a cute girl I knew in HS suddenly made it very clear that I was, in fact, desirable. It was a bolt out of the blue. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (Riz8t) 33
Attn Cow Demon: The message is that if you are the type of person who aspires to home ownership, it’s a shame to start adulthood with a mortgage payment’s worth of student debt, which precludes buying a house.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (d9Cw3) 34
My son incurred student debt. Not a "lot" but enough that it took him several years to pay it off while living at home with his mother. He's still there. Not enough left to rent or buy something.
*shrugs* Choices. Some he made were poor. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (jehhT) 35
How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n) But more importantly - Happy birthday, Piper! Posted by: Boswell at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (j10i6) 36
No, for some people, it doesn't make sense. The message is that if you default on your obligations, and then expect other people to pay them off, you're a loser.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:11 AM (Riz8t) Wholeheartedly agree with that. For me, home ownership does not make sense - yet. But soon! I never wanted to go through the hassle of owning a home knowing I would have to offload the thing in 3-5 years, I could buy a home for cheap here - good luck selling it in a place no one wants to move to. Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:14 AM (T6aVk) 37
I'll never forget the first time after college a cute girl I knew in HS suddenly made it very clear that I was, in fact, desirable. It was a bolt out of the blue.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (Riz8t) Yeah. It is jarring. Gal I knew in HS met up with in college and I'm thinking. 'I know you've met me before...' Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:15 AM (bss/y) 38
Q: What's the dumbest thing you've ever done for money?
A: I took out a loan to go to school to get a job to pay off the loan. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1) 39
Why don’t the schools bear the responsibility of student loans?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (A5RD0) 40
34 My son incurred student debt. Not a "lot" but enough that it took him several years to pay it off while living at home with his mother. He's still there. Not enough left to rent or buy something.
*shrugs* Choices. Some he made were poor. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (jehhT) Most current entry level jobs for college grads are not gonna support buying a house in an area. I see nothing wrong with a kid staying home, saving and yet also paying some rent to mom and dad, making sure that when they jump, they jump for good. Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (tOcjL) 41
31 Odds paul took the brown acid..
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (gbGyB) I am thinking pony tail with ZZ top beard. And bald spot. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (bss/y) Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (Wmg4n) 43
It's better to default on your mortgage than on your student loans.
25% penalty of the balance added if you default on the student loan. With no discharge in bankruptcy. OTOH, if these are real defaults, I hope it grows. And destroys the student loan cartel. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (73/SM) 44
Q: What's the dumbest thing you've ever done for money?
A: I took out a loan to go to school to get a job to pay off the loan. Paid $25 when it's $20 in town. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (Riz8t) 45
38 Q: What's the dumbest thing you've ever done for money?
A: I took out a loan to go to school to get a job to pay off the loan. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1) Yeah, the smart ones were Military or who took up a trade to be able to pay for school and then found they could make far more money at the trade without picking up the degree. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:17 AM (bss/y) 46
I went to ROTC. It was fun getting tuition bills for $50. : )
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:17 AM (T6aVk) Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 11:18 AM (RCjYY) 48
Those of us who did college without loans or paid off our debt are already fucked, lets put that aside. No fixing it.
So, even though it benefits a lot of "studies" type liberal arts majors, I propose a twenty five percent or whatever is needed college endowment tax, to payoff all outstanding student loan debt, and such debt never again be considered. The fact that this would hurt the Ivies and like private schools most compared to state institutions is just a happy little bonus. Posted by: From about That Time at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (sl73Y) 49
My loans went directly to me, which then went to paying tuition.
After graduating, I had enough left over to order a sweet set of custom set of golf clubs from H&B -- PowerBilt Citations. Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (J4Dwc) 50
Colleges should be nationalized and run by the federal government. Free for anyone to attend, even the illegal aliens. If it's good enough for health insurance, it should be good enough for the colleges, and outlaw private universities and colleges.
Call it CollegeCare or CollegeAid or FreeShit4U U. Posted by: Another Hit From The Bong at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (OoF9t) 51
39 Why don’t the schools bear the responsibility of student loans?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (A5RD0) Well, for ANY other loan the burden is carried by the bank and the purchaser (the student.) The banks have found ways through the government to shunt their risk, so the student bears almost all of the risk. It IS odd to expect the manufacturer (in this case the school) to bear the burden for someone buying their product- but there are a lot of industries that have seemed to move into that type of situation. It is perverse. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (bss/y) 52
In general according to Wallet Hub the states with highest student debt are Red states
The states with lowest student debt are blue states Rich states vs poor states. University of Vermont does have the highest tuition for residents. But Free tuition for students from families earning less than $100000 Socialism? Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (httTc) 53
There's always getting a roommate, or subletting. Or is that sort of thing illegal now? (Not even snark, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bullcrap law on the books in most cities making that kind of arrangement illegal because Racism or Equity or Florpblorp or whatever nonsense they concoct to justify wrecking everything)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (Ot/FD) 54
49 My loans went directly to me, which then went to paying tuition.
After graduating, I had enough left over to order a sweet set of custom set of golf clubs from H&B -- PowerBilt Citations. Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (J4Dwc) Forged? Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (bss/y) 55
Speaking of acoustic music, I thought this was interesting. Playing an ancient Greek lyre.
https://tinyurl.com/2ywm8kac Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 11:21 AM (ndZc7) 56
Back in the day, when I graduated college I owed less than $3,000. We learned early on to avoid credit card debt.
You want to never be able to buy a house? Student loans, car loans, credit card debt. Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 11:22 AM (qFwJc) 57
Watching a bit of BoB, I think, ok pretty sure, for their realistic try, the night march the guys only had the helmet liners.
Rivots on outside are the giveaway Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:22 AM (Ia/+0) 58
Speaking of acoustic music, I thought this was interesting. Playing an ancient Greek lyre.
https://tinyurl.com/2ywm8kac Boring! I've substituted a saxaphone. Posted by: Christopher Nolan at May 25, 2026 11:23 AM (Riz8t) 59
After graduating, I had enough left over to order a sweet set of custom set of golf clubs from H&B -- PowerBilt Citations.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (J4Dwc) I personally think more business descisions get made on the golf course than anywhere else. Good investment. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:23 AM (gbGyB) 60
As usual, Paul makes a big claim, fails utterly to back it up, (WalletHub? Really?) and runs away.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (Riz8t) 61
53 There's always getting a roommate, or subletting. Or is that sort of thing illegal now? (Not even snark, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bullcrap law on the books in most cities making that kind of arrangement illegal because Racism or Equity or Florpblorp or whatever nonsense they concoct to justify wrecking everything)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (Ot/FD) Subletting is disallowed in most places...not sure if it's legality or other reasons for the disallowance... Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (tOcjL) Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (J4Dwc) 63
52. Let me take this opportunity to remind people they should not come to poor red states. I will speak specifically of my state- it’s hot garbage here. Raining like crazy, there will no doubt be alligators moving into the puddles just waiting to chomp you. I know a lot of you are sending your kids to SEC schools (Go Dawgs!) but maybe just send them to Vermont where the tuition is paid for by magical college tuition fairies!
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (p4NUW) 64
I personally think more business descisions get made on the golf course than anywhere else. Good investment.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:23 AM (gbGyB) This checks out. Posted by: Al Czervik at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (wVcYX) 65
LOL. And if your potential customer catches you cheating at golf, you can kiss that contract goodbye.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (qFwJc) 66
Subletting is disallowed in most places...not sure if it's legality or other reasons for the disallowance...
Most people don't want it in their neighborhood because it attracts the poors and drives down property values. None of the group homes I once lived in were properly maintained. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:26 AM (Riz8t) 67
Yes, with persimmon woods
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (J4Dwc) I almost regret not getting more into golf. It was relaxing and maddening. But I could never hit a forged club for shit. The toys were too expensive. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (bss/y) 68
None of the group homes I once lived in were properly maintained.
Correlation or causation? Discuss. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (Riz8t) Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (J4Dwc) 70
69 Forged
https://tinyurl.com/2up9ba66 Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (J4Dwc) Forged clubs are pretty. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:29 AM (bss/y) 71
Shiny.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:29 AM (bss/y) 72
I had some student loans but not much. I worked two jobs during college and that paid rent and most of tuition. Working constantly while trying to finish my degree was difficult but was helped by being a bad student with terrible study habits and poor impulse control. I guess I meant hurt there. However when all was said and done I walked out with about 5K in loans which seemed like a lot at the time but didn't take very long to pay off with my first real job at Boeing.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 11:29 AM (3uBP9) 73
I want a fucking refund. I didn’t default on my student loan. I went back into the military and saved money by living in the barracks and making a $900 payment instead of a $90 payment. I REALLY could use that money now.
When I had to call them directly to get the exact payoff the guy was a little surprised, people don’t pay off their loans decades early, apparently. Decent, peaceable honorable citizens & Taxpayers are just Chumps. To be fleeced. I hope and pray all these crooks in and out of government die in a fire. Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 11:29 AM (NxbtL) 74
Why dont the schools bear the responsibility of student loans?
When student loans began, they were somewhat reasonable. You didnt take a loan out from the government, it was from a local bank. I actually talked with the loan guy from the bank. And the amount was not very much. I think all told I ended up with $8,000 in loans, which ends up being about $24,000 in todays money. There was no reason for the school to be involved. I took out the loan and I got the money. That amount was quite doable, and was quite doable even though I was just going from odd job to odd job in the nineties figuring out what the hell I was doing. Over time, schools (and probably students too, I dont know) learned to game the system. The numbers skyrocketed and at some point, the system went from real loans to fake loans that, as far as I can tell, dont even act as loans. Its more like indentured servitude to the government. But we still pretend that its the same system of real loans made understanding what the loan meant and that can be paid off in a reasonable time. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:30 AM (kYmoU) 75
If you were to introduce a new test for potential new hires today, you would be exposing yourself to Disparate Impact liability. Even with the full blessing of academia, with published peer-reviewed studies showing the test's demonstrated predictive power for job performance, it would still be at best only a defense to be used in a lawsuit, it would not prevent costly lawsuits in the first place.
But degrees are held to be different, because "tradition". They are, in fact, remarkably terrible predictors of job performance for the vast majority of jobs. They are in no way equitably distributed in terms of race and class. If you invented the university degree today, it would probably be *illegal* to use it as a criterion in hiring. Part of the recipe for dismantling the student debt trap is to reverse this state of affairs. Let universities show their degree product performance due a given job - otherwise ban its use as a hiring criterion. Reverse our current law on Disparate Impact so employers can create their own skill tests without fear of lawsuits and without needing to beg academia for permission to bypass the latter's credential. Posted by: DaveL at May 25, 2026 11:31 AM (9w232) 76
But we still pretend that it’s the same system of real loans made understanding what the loan meant and that can be paid off in a reasonable time.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:30 AM (kYmoU) Huh. Interesting way to look at it. In exchange for one lump payment, the government gets another income stream forever that cannot be released by bankruptcy and if someone pays the min each month, never goes away and is far in excess of the original lump sum. Yeah, evil. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:32 AM (bss/y) 77
Yeah, the smart ones were Military or who took up a trade to be able to pay for school and then found they could make far more money at the trade without picking up the degree.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:17 AM (bss/y) Yup. Or if they did go to school, it was to get a degree in a specific skill. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 25, 2026 11:33 AM (g8Ew8) 78
Usually left unstated - the reason student loans are not discharged in bankruptcy is because a huge cottage industry had emerged.
Colleges even offered courses on how to get your law degree and then immediately file for bankruptcy and renege on loan repayment. Congress decided that was not in keeping with the intent of college loan programs. Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 11:33 AM (NxbtL) 79
Every once in awhile read how student loans have doubled every few years. No one paying for anything using monopoly money why not charge outrageous fees?
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:34 AM (Ia/+0) 80
Well dang. It seems I must now pay for Grok inquiries by signing up for an account.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:34 AM (Riz8t) 81
>>I could never hit a forged club for shit.
I played a lot in college and for a few years afterward -- got good enough to hit forged irons and ballata-covered balls. Haven't had the same skills for several decades now, but still enjoy playing in an old fogey league. Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:35 AM (J4Dwc) 82
I say put the universities on the hook for these loan defaults because fuck 'em.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 11:35 AM (gKWVE) 83
It isn't a college, that part seems to be still in operation, but the high school part of the Valley Forge Military school shutdown after like 97 years due to high costs, insurance. Roughly it cost $50G a year yo send a student there.
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:36 AM (Ia/+0) 84
I'm easily frustrated. And golf seems to be the most frustrating sport. It's like basketball except the basket is a quarter mile away and you don't throw the ball you whack at it with a series of sticks. Yeah,... no.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 11:36 AM (3uBP9) 85
A degree told employers the candidate had a modicum of smarts, discipline and work ethic.
That is no longer true. Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 25, 2026 11:38 AM (wBaIH) 86
and if someone pays the min each month, never goes away and is far in excess of the original lump sum.
Yes, except that (others here will be more knowledgeable than I) I think the loan does go away after a specific period of time if certain conditions are meant, regardless of how much remains in the loan. It gets forgiven, an odd term given the rest of what goes on in the system. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:39 AM (kYmoU) 87
A degree told employers the candidate had a modicum of smarts, discipline and work ethic.
That is no longer true. Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 25, 2026 11:38 AM (wBaIH) Truth. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 25, 2026 11:39 AM (g8Ew8) 88
84 I'm easily frustrated. And golf seems to be the most frustrating sport. It's like basketball except the basket is a quarter mile away and you don't throw the ball you whack at it with a series of sticks. Yeah,... no.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 11:36 AM (3uBP9) 1) Outside. 2) Difficult. You watch someone who's really good and feel like a clumsy buffoon (think Fred Couples.) So it takes effort and body control to get good (barring Daly.) 3) The toys add a level of OCD obsession. 4) You can drink while playing. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:39 AM (bss/y) 89
Thx Buck.
Make the colleges and universities pay half the loans out of their endowments. Then fire half of the administrative staff. Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 11:39 AM (hpwtA) 90
And those are the costs for some podunk 4 year school.
The bigs, Notre Dame, Haahvaahhd, Yale, etc. will cost around 400-500k. It's absurd, completely and utterly absurd. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:40 AM (XV/Pl) 91
I took out a small student loan in college mainly to buy car to get me back and forth to school. I paid for my own college but took 6 years. I would go back home and work in the oil refinery during the day and manage a pizza parlor at night for 6 months then go back to college. Rinse and repeat until graduation.
Posted by: Beartooth at May 25, 2026 11:40 AM (IYeV+) 92
A few uears ago there was a published list of colleges that would go under. Plenty of brand names, including Fordham.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 25, 2026 11:40 AM (wBaIH) 93
A degree told employers the candidate had a modicum of smarts, discipline and work ethic.
That is no longer true. Now it tells them the candidate has novelty pronouns, wants to free Palestine, and thinks Kamala is super smart. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 11:40 AM (QZThv) 94
I skipped the whole school thing and went straight to the endless string of bad jobs part.
I am however about 20 months from debt free. Not because of anything I did. I'm a moron. I gave the wife full financial control some 30 years ago and she's a wizard with money. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:42 AM (gbGyB) 95
GI Bill. That's how kids should be paying for college. What Smash & I both used to get our Master's degrees. At the end, I was $5k short, and got a student loan for that amount. Smash's was similar. Posted by: BifBewalski - at May 25, 2026 11:42 AM (QVmho) Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:42 AM (XV/Pl) 97
Go after the endowments.
Colleges and universities are selling a bill of goods, coasting off long histories while now providing a lemon education (like cars, not fit for purpose). Think of all the "Studies" courses, including the ones for actively-living entertainers. Also, colleges are bearing almost no risk while reaping all the benefits. They get paid whether the student "lears" or not. Whether they graduate or flunk out. Even if the student should never have been accepted because they never graduated highschool at an actual high-school level, regardless of the piece of paper their principal gave. The colleges get their money. The banks are on the hook. Except no, the banks get their money because the students can never default or go bankrupt. And the students HAD to get a college degree because that became mandatory on resumes to get a decent job. Because employers couldn't test candidates, because RAAAACISM, so the degree became the replacement test. Posted by: Another Anon at May 25, 2026 11:43 AM (4h45B) 98
I would go back home and work in the oil refinery during the day and manage a pizza parlor at night for 6 months then go back to college. Rinse and repeat until graduation.
I have a cousin who did the same, but as a trucker. He liked it so much he almost did it full-time after college. Probably a good thing he chose not to given how the trucking industry has been coopted by the illegal alien industry. The ruling class loves their indentured servants and continually find new ways to manufacture them. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:43 AM (kYmoU) 99
Not because of anything I did. I'm a moron. I gave the wife full financial control some 30 years ago and she's a wizard with money.
The fact that you recognize where you don't shine and your partner does, and your resultant willingness to let her be in charge of that aspect suggests strongly that you are NOT a moron. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t) 100
Back in the day, you could attend CUNY, pay for it out of your pocket and live on your own in an apartment on minimum f***ing wage.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (XV/Pl) 101
Boon: I gotta work on my game.
Otter: No, no, no, don't think of it as work. The whole point is just to enjoy yourself. Posted by: Count de Monet at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (wVcYX) 102
The fact that you recognize where you don't shine and your partner does, and your resultant willingness to let her be in charge of that aspect suggests strongly that you are NOT a moron.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t) Objection! He comments here. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (bss/y) 103
I eschew the concept of debt. Paid my way through college back when it was affordable. We paid for our kids college (UT and A&M) while they went through and the fees started to skyrocket circa 2002 or so, that last year was painful. I can't imagine what it is now. Haven't had any debt of any kind in over 20 years.
Did I mention I hate debt? Posted by: DanMan at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (8uzBS) 104
You can view it as idyllic, but in the sense of survival of the species, keeping the women away from harm is the obvious thing to do. One man can impregnate lots of women, but children are generated one woman at a time. Face it guys, we're much more expendable.
--- This argument only makes sense in a polygamous society. So I guess it's an argument, that, if woman want monogamy and marriage, they'll have to be willing to die in war? (and I'm not too sure of how many men want a harem, lol) But, TBH, wars just kill off the surplus men who weren't likely reproducing anyway. On the other side, the sexual revolution wasn't the hippy boomers, it started long before, when the post-war women had to compete for the good men remaining. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (73/SM) 105
D'Oh! Another climate change narrative bites the increasingly scarce dust.
Harsh climate scenarios have spent decades painting Earth's likely future landscape as dystopian, dark, barren and forbidding. Yet, recent physical data argues exactly the opposite. Instead of plunging the planet into chaos, it's becoming eye-catchingly greener - and CO₂ is the key. The formal models predicted a scorched planet, but NASA satellites unleashed a world that is biologically thriving. This silent miracle of global greening isn't some theory, it's the physical reality captured by the orbiting space platforms; MODIS instruments on NASA's Terra and Aqua satellites. https://tinyurl.com/3ycmdcff Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (Riz8t) 106
70 69 Forged
https://tinyurl.com/2up9ba66 Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (J4Dwc) Forged clubs are pretty. especially when they're lovingly drop-forged out of melamine by slave labor. Posted by: xi the pooh at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (qdr3M) 107
I went to a decent school, I don’t regret my undergrad or grad degree. I managed my career obsessively and I did well. It’s not impossible, but I do think you need to ensure you are looking at degrees in real subjects and being realistic in salary expectations on the front end. Or even what the salary pays for your chosen field.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (p4NUW) 108
I gave the wife full financial control some 30 years ago and she's a wizard with money.
This used to be what was called a traditional marriage. Probably related to why something called home economics was taught in high schools and was mostly taken by girls. Then home economics went away and instead of half the populating knowing how to run a household, no one did. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:47 AM (kYmoU) 109
But, TBH, wars just kill off the surplus men who weren't likely reproducing anyway.
Your argument presupposes that only losers who can't get women are in the military. I don't agree. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (Riz8t) 110
I'd say Animal House, Airplane and Blazing Saddles are the three greatest comedies, and they came out within 6 years of each other.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (XV/Pl) 111
So in my 44 years since matriculation it appears that the cost of college is not the cost of education, but the cost of rules, regulations, diversity, equity, and inclusion.
The administration required to write the rules, enforce the standards, punish the innocent, and reward the lawless is most likely 3X to 4X the cost of teaching. And that my friends, is in no way, a real education. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (/+uur) 112
Objection! He comments here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (bss/y) I'm the original moron. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (gbGyB) 113
The best and simplest way to stop the explosive growth in student debt is to reverse Obama's policy in 2010 that effectively was a government takeover of the student loan program. Some of us warned at the time this would happen but we were ignored because the Lightbringer knew better.
In fact, I believe this was exactly what Obama intended because it was so obvious what would happen. When government started handing out loans to anyone with a pulse and guaranteeing them colleges did exactly what was expected and raised prices. A lot. Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 11:50 AM (viF8m) 114
So I guess it's an argument, that, if woman want monogamy and marriage, they'll have to be willing to die in war?
(and I'm not too sure of how many men want a harem, lol) Is polygamy ideal? Of course not. But when the survival of the species is at stake, it will be accepted. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:50 AM (Riz8t) 115
The administration required to write the rules, enforce the standards, punish the innocent, and reward the lawless is most likely 3X to 4X the cost of teaching.
Yeah. We can laugh at the days when administration was made up mostly of faculty forced to do a job theyd never been trained for. But at least they tended to focus on things that involved teaching and it gave them insight into how the administrationwhich is technically the link between faculty and the real worldworked. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:50 AM (kYmoU) 116
This argument only makes sense in a polygamous society.
So I guess it's an argument, that, if woman want monogamy and marriage, they'll have to be willing to die in war? (and I'm not too sure of how many men want a harem, lol) But, TBH, wars just kill off the surplus men who weren't likely reproducing anyway. On the other side, the sexual revolution wasn't the hippy boomers, it started long before, when the post-war women had to compete for the good men remaining. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (73/SM) Maybe in Europe does that hold true. But the American war demographic was very much different. Plenty of men came back to claim the women. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 25, 2026 11:51 AM (g8Ew8) 117
But when the survival of the species is at stake, it will be accepted.
The species is overrated, and destroying Gaia. Were better off without it. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:51 AM (kYmoU) 118
Not because of anything I did. I'm a moron. I gave the wife full financial control some 30 years ago and she's a wizard with money.
same, I recall she wanted a newer car. I figured I could call my state employee credit union on Monday and get a loan. DanMa'am whips out a couple of checkbooks and paid for it on the spot. Posted by: DanMan at May 25, 2026 11:51 AM (8uzBS) 119
Is polygamy ideal? Of course not. But when the survival of the species is at stake, it will be accepted.
I direct you to a documentary, Doctor Strangelove. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:52 AM (Riz8t) 120
In fact, I believe this was exactly what Obama intended because it was so obvious what would happen. When government started handing out loans to anyone with a pulse and guaranteeing them colleges did exactly what was expected and raised prices. A lot. Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 11:50 AM (viF8m) Because it made it far more lucrative to run the schools (commies) and the schools in turn churn out nasty little ideologues (commies.) Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:52 AM (bss/y) 121
One of my kids is buying their first home, under the age of 40 by a few years, it has taken this long to pay off student loans.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 25, 2026 11:53 AM (0nHVk) 122
“The species” is overrated, and destroying Gaia. We’re better off without it.
That'll be enough out of you, zombie Paul Ehrlich. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t) 123
I majored in golf and minored in poker, also took enough classes to graduate.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:53 AM (J4Dwc) 124
117 But when the survival of the species is at stake, it will be accepted.
“The species” is overrated, and destroying Gaia. We’re better off without it. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:51 AM (kYmoU) Which very well may be where you land if your harem includes multiples of me. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:53 AM (p4NUW) 125
Burn coal. It's organic.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 11:54 AM (guBvG) 126
Then “home economics” went away and instead of half the populating knowing how to run a household, no one did.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:47 AM (kYmoU) My senior year I took home ec as it was outside of the business school and therefore an Elective I needed. You had to tech a 15 minute lesson to make and A in the class. I taught a class on house financing. Even the prof loved the class and invited me to teach the class again the next semester (I gave her my slide deck). It helped me about 10 years later as I bought a house with 2 loans to skip PMI and the savings paid the second personal loan off in about 5 years. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 11:54 AM (/+uur) 127
Because it made it far more lucrative to run the schools (commies) and the schools in turn churn out nasty little ideologues (commies.)
Also schools had become a jobs program for left-wing terrorists like Ayers and Dohrn. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 11:54 AM (QZThv) Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (bss/y) 129
>>Because it made it far more lucrative to run the schools (commies) and the schools in turn churn out nasty little ideologues (commies.)
I've seen numerous reports on the ideological leanings of professors in universities and colleges. Most schools always bent a little to the left but now they are almost universally hard left. There are almost zero self-identified conservatives left in many schools. And we see the results. They are now indoctrination centers for the far left. Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (viF8m) 130
It’s so hard saving for a house. Fucking boomers.
Oh yeah sure I’ll have another $11 latte, add a $9 croissant to that as well please Anyway as I was saying…. - 27 year old Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (nwGCR) 131
#128
I'm not here to do your work for you. When you make a claim, include a link, or STFU. This is not a difficult concept. But congrats on actually responding. It's outside your usual MO. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (Riz8t) 132
On the Obama loans notice that it is now the standard claim of every (D) candidate to FORGIVE the loans.
The State Takeover was created to make Big Govt a player that can hand out favors for more votes. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 11:57 AM (/+uur) 133
100 Back in the day, you could attend CUNY, pay for it out of your pocket and live on your own in an apartment on minimum f***ing wage.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (XV/Pl) Those days are long gone, and a lot of people need to stop pretending they aren't. Our Betters™ made this system what it is now and folks better wake up. And we don't need a half million Chinese to prop up this shit deal that's fucking Americans over, we need these worthless diploma machines to die off to the point they are forced to make college degrees worth something again. Posted by: Doesn't have a catchy acronym though at May 25, 2026 11:57 AM (TbWk/) 134
On a whim, because I had gelatin and coffee right there, I made coffee jello.
I must say, I probably should have mixed some half-and-half in with it. It is however the most efficient way to get a caffeine buzz if you don't care much about the flavor. Next time I will try shredding some carrot in. Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 11:57 AM (rbvCR) 135
135 On a whim, because I had gelatin and coffee right there, I made coffee jello.
I must say, I probably should have mixed some half-and-half in with it. It is however the most efficient way to get a caffeine buzz if you don't care much about the flavor. Next time I will try shredding some carrot in. Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 11:57 AM (rbvCR) Huh. Caffeine Jello shots. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:58 AM (bss/y) 136
Your argument presupposes that only losers who can't get women are in the military. I don't agree.
--- Not at all. When there is a surplus of men, they have to compete for the women. Joining the army is a good way to up your value. Fighting in a war is even better. So these young men may agitate for war. Biological risk-reward; considered worth it even to top reproductive prospects. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (73/SM) 137
112 Objection! He comments here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (bss/y) I'm the original moron. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (gbGyB) I mostly lurk but, I thought the hoard was comprised of Morons? Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (/enuJ) 138
Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2026 11:58 AM (dROkN)
Or illegal immigrants. So, the commies get rich by exploiting the poors. So egalitarian. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (bss/y) 139
One of can't even read.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:00 PM (guBvG) 140
Gen X will soon be playing the Role of Emmanuel Goldstein.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:01 PM (Gqar8) 141
Heard a caller to Dave Ramsey once who had just flunked out of medical school and had $250k of medical school loans to pay off.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:01 PM (Cqx++) 142
When there is a surplus of men, they have to compete for the women.
Joining the army is a good way to up your value. Fighting in a war is even better. So these young men may agitate for war. Biological risk-reward; considered worth it even to top reproductive prospects. Unless you're one of those killed in combat. You said exactly that. But, TBH, wars just kill off the surplus men who weren't likely reproducing anyway. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 12:01 PM (Riz8t) 143
I mostly lurk but, I thought the hoard was comprised of Morons?
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (/enuJ) It goes way back to "new comment thingy". You had to be there. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (gbGyB) 144
The median (not average) student t loan debt at graduation is $30k. Not $300k like the media would have you believe.
Are there edge cases of $300k? Sure. But that’s just a stupid thing to do. In my state, even with no scholarships or aid, one can get a degree in state tuition, room and board, the works for about $20k a year. Work part time during school, and full time in summer and at worst you’re $40k in debt at graduation. And almost everyone gets some kind of aid/scholarship. That’s one option. Or you can go to a $70k a year private school and graduate with $250k debt. If you choose tho option well sorry I have no sympathy for you. Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (nwGCR) 145
So I guess it's an argument, that, if woman want monogamy and marriage, they'll have to be willing to die in war?
(and I'm not too sure of how many men want a harem, lol) This only works for Kings and other types of despots who can have them beheaded or imprisoned for disrespect, cheating, fighting, frigidity, etc. Otherwise it would be a neverending cycle of them giving you headaches and them having "headaches." Posted by: Not appealing to an ordinary guy at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (TbWk/) 146
Band of Brothers is on AMC. Still great TV
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (hpwtA) 147
Savings is destroyed by inflation. Stocks is a casino. Bonds are a Ponzi scheme.
"save for the future kids, you can get 3.8% interest and that will set you up just fine because the official inflation rate is 3.8% and you just have to pay the taxes on the interest income" Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (rbvCR) 148
Gen X will soon be playing the Role of Emmanuel Goldstein. Posted by: tubal We boomers will be glad to pass that torch. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (Cqx++) 149
143 Heard a caller to Dave Ramsey once who had just flunked out of medical school and had $250k of medical school loans to pay off.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:01 PM (Cqx++) You're right fucked. -Mirror Universe Dave Ramsey Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (bss/y) 150
The Marxists promised free education, and the Auto-Pen administration tried to give them that
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:02 AM (Ia/+0) The Marxists demanded that the Proles labor to provide them their desires, and the Auto-Pen administration tried to give them that. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (ExV1e) 151
Gen X will soon be playing the Role of Emmanuel Goldstein.
Gen X gets ignored for everything. I've already seen indications of Goldstein status skipping over to the Millennials. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (QZThv) 152
That shot that leaves a scar seems to keep many of them from reaching 50.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (guBvG) 153
Back in the day, you could attend CUNY, pay for it out of your pocket and live on your own in an apartment on minimum f***ing wage.
-- An old attorney I knew told me how he attended University of Texas, the only law school in the state at the time IIRC, for ... $25 ... a semester. Not per class, per semester. IDK what it is now, but if it's $25k a semester, I'd not be surprised. I like the ouroboros of colleges producing worthless degrees then hiring those worthless degrees to produce more worthless degrees. See Yale having more admin than students now. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (73/SM) 154
I mostly lurk but, I thought the hoard was comprised of Morons?
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (/enuJ) Exactly. quod erat demonstrandum. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:04 PM (bss/y) 155
I went Gault six years ago.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:04 PM (guBvG) 156
On a whim, because I had gelatin and coffee right there, I made coffee jello.
I must say, I probably should have mixed some half-and-half in with it. It is however the most efficient way to get a caffeine buzz if you don't care much about the flavor. Coffee jelly (basically coffee Jello) is a popular dessert in Japan. Posted by: Learned from Saiki K. at May 25, 2026 12:04 PM (TbWk/) 157
102 The fact that you recognize where you don't shine and your partner does, and your resultant willingness to let her be in charge of that aspect suggests strongly that you are NOT a moron.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t) Objection! He comments here. Double Objection!! Commenting here makes him a Moron Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (/enuJ) 158
It’s so hard saving for a house. Fucking boomers.
Oh yeah sure I’ll have another $11 latte, add a $9 croissant to that as well please Anyway as I was saying…. - 27 year old Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (nwGCR) Now, now. That parts true but we didn't have Blackrock buying up family homes by the gross and driving up p[rices as they reduce supply, We didn't have the double whammy of both Obama and Biden murdering the economy, we didn't have Biden driving inflation to insane levels, we didn't have rampant uncontrolled gov't funding of open borders and illegal aliens to eat up apartments and homes again reducing supply. I feel sorry for them however, they do keep voting for Democrats, who murder their economic welfare with insane taxation, which is weird but that's what I see and hear from most young folks of family and house buying age. Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (iJfKG) 159
The yuutes are lumping GenX and boomers together now. Basically anyone older than them (even some millennial) are boomers. When it’s pointed out to them it’s retarded to call a 45 year old a boomer,, they reply with “yeah well they have a boomer mindset”.
Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (nwGCR) 160
Blaming others for one’s shit circumstances has been a standard practice for forever. I suppose there’s a reason for it to be so prevalent.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (Gqar8) 161
Norman: Coordinate!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (bss/y) 162
Reminds me of a real Star Trek episode.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:06 PM (guBvG) 163
Blackrock owns less that 1% of homes in the US. More like 0.1%. Can we please stop with that?
Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:06 PM (nwGCR) Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:07 PM (bss/y) 165
The big companies manage far more residential realestate than they own.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:07 PM (guBvG) 166
Isn't it Blackstone or something that Blackrock has a controlling interest in?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (bss/y) 167
You let 10s of millions of illegals into the country and guess what happens to the price of housing.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (viF8m) 168
135 On a whim, because I had gelatin and coffee right there, I made coffee jello.
I must say, I probably should have mixed some half-and-half in with it. It is however the most efficient way to get a caffeine buzz if you don't care much about the flavor. have you considered a suppository? Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (qdr3M) 169
Garnish their wages and seize their assets. Anyone who took out loans is responsible for their debt. I'm sick of these grifting brats with their brand new phones and expensive lattes
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (kJmLc) 170
I've seen numerous reports on the ideological leanings of professors in universities and colleges. Most schools always bent a little to the left but now they are almost universally hard left. There are almost zero self-identified conservatives left in many schools.
-- There's now a chart that shows how hard left the "blue" jobs are vs. how hard right the "red" jobs are. And it's not just how much more left the blue ones are, 90% plus with no job similarly skewed on the right, it's that they now don't even include moderates. Colleges and all the social science jobs have driven out even the moderates, let alone the conservatives. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (73/SM) Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (qdr3M) 172
have you considered a suppository?
Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (qdr3M) Butt chugging hot black coffee seems like a poor idea. Unless you are Pete Buttigeg and it's a euphemism. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (bss/y) 173
I find it so weird how young people are obsessed with people older than them. When I was in my 20s I had zero views on “old people”. I didn’t care what my boss made either. My focus was on what I made and what I had to do to make more.
The kids have been brainwashed by the left into an us vs them mentality. It’s corrosive. Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (nwGCR) 174
Blackrock owns less that 1% of homes in the US. More like 0.1%. Can we please stop with that?
Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:06 PM (nwGCR) How many of the housing coming on the market is bid up by investment companies looking for safe haven for their money? That is more important that who owns it. "the price of gold is not based on how much there is or who owns it, the price of gold is based on what people are willing to pay to get more of it" Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (rbvCR) 175
I love HGTV shows, but I wonder if they have set up a very unrealistic expectation of home buying. My first house was 1200sq feet - 3 beds. 2 baths, kitchen and a very small living room.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (p4NUW) 176
Bad decisions lead to bad consequences. That’s the part that gets a lot of people to stamping their little feet. Just another variation of “ It’s Not Fair”!
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (Gqar8) 177
156 I mostly lurk but, I thought the hoard was comprised of Morons?
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (/enuJ) Exactly. quod erat demonstrandum. quod erat is best erat Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (qdr3M) 178
Who speaks Elvish?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (guBvG) 179
Exactly. quod erat demonstrandum.
quod erat is best erat Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (qdr3M) Can't get the D without the Q & E! Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (bss/y) 180
Blackrock owns less that 1% of homes in the US. More like 0.1%. Can we please stop with that? Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:06 PM (nwGCR) No. Even if that's true. Blackrock doesn't pull out a huge map and say, "Oh, look we haven't bought 1% of the homes in Frog's Butt, Alabama. Time to get one.' No, Blackrock buys family homes in high demand areas, which magnifies the problem and the cost factors. That's one of those meaningless statistics because it doesn't tell the circumstances so it's basically a lie. Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (iJfKG) 181
177 I love HGTV shows, but I wonder if they have set up a very unrealistic expectation of home buying. My first house was 1200sq feet - 3 beds. 2 baths, kitchen and a very small living room.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (p4NUW) And as Ace pointed out, brat seem to think they need expensive ingredients and cookware to make simple meals or that simple meals are beneath them. Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (kJmLc) 182
Who speaks Elvish?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (guBvG) Elvish hash left the building, man. Posted by: Uh huh at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (TbWk/) 183
180 Who speaks Elvish?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (guBvG) Go to a Renaissance Faire, or a Comic-con. Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (Gqar8) 184
How many of the housing coming on the market is bid up by investment companies looking for safe haven for their money? That is more important that who owns it.
— Much less than you think. The vast majority of “investors” are mom and pop landlords who own a condo or two and rent out. It’s not the big bad evil Wall St investors. Small Investors (1–5 homes): Account for about 85% of all investor-owned properties. Mid-Tier Investors (6–10 properties): Make up another 5%. Institutional Investors (1,000+ homes): Account for only about 2.2% of investor-owned homes, Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (nwGCR) 185
My first instinct on these student loans is to say "no duh" to people with a philosophy major or equivalent, but I do find a modicum of sympathy at times for 18 year olds who were sold a bill of goods, go to college and you'll be totally successful. As it turns out, even the learn to code and many STEM students are going to be screwed.
Not to mention plenty of studies that say federal student loans actually increase tuition. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (n5tGW) 186
It’s so hard saving for a house. Fucking boomers.
Oh yeah sure I’ll have another $11 latte, add a $9 croissant to that as well please -- Don't forget the $500 iPhones. But I will say, as a mom of a 29-year old, it's very hard to save for a down payment for a mortgage when you're shelling out in the neighborhood of $1100-1500/mo. for a small apartment. We let Jr. Black move home for a couple years to get him out of that burning money pit of apartment living. He'll likely be able to get a really good down payment on a house in the next few months when he's 30. He'll be in a lot better shape than many in his age bracket. It doesn't hurt that his student loans were paid off. He didn't take out exorbitant loans for a stupid, useless degree. He has a master's in accounting, and both he and Mr. Black and I helped him zero out his college loans. Posted by: Lady in Black at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (qBdHI) 187
have you considered a suppository?
Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (qdr3M) Just hook it to my veins, man. Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (rbvCR) Posted by: mindful webworker - the star spangled banner still waves at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (0poB+) 189
169 You let 10s of millions of illegals into the country and guess what happens to the price of housing.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (viF8m) Precisely. And let foreigners take a great number of college slots and ore bullshit ensues. Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:14 PM (kJmLc) 190
I feel sorry for them however, they do keep voting for Democrats, who murder their economic welfare with insane taxation, which is weird but that's what I see and hear from most young folks of family and house buying age.
--- Consider that since Reagan's "a choice not a echo" most of the elected Republicans have offered ... the echo, I can see why. And look at severely conservative conservatives of ... Cassidy, Tillis, Cornyn et al. They are third and forth reverbs of the echo. Trump, MAGA and America First are the choice. yet another reason Republicans hate him. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:14 PM (73/SM) 191
As it turns out, even the learn to code and many STEM students are going to be screwed.
Truth. If companies are smart, they'll start hiring those people who went to college and got real degrees in challenging subjects instead of coasting. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 12:14 PM (Riz8t) 192
Right. They form local monopolies where there is demand. Not everywhere. We have one locally. Buying up things and running others they don't own. You wind up paying big city rent.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:15 PM (guBvG) 193
I am not really comfortable with the “ Conservative” label anymore.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:15 PM (Gqar8) 194
Investors buying that unloved house, prettying it up, and making it a rental or a resale add about 1.5% market value to all houses with 4 or 5 blocks within the next year.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 12:15 PM (/+uur) 195
Go to a Renaissance Faire, or a Comic-con.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (Gqar Hell no. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (gbGyB) 196
I love HGTV shows, but I wonder if they have set up a very unrealistic expectation of home buying.
Depends heavily on the specific show. And I applaud those expectations to the extent that it really pisses off the Marxist urbanists who want to cram everyone into a box. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (QZThv) Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (nwGCR) 198
188 It’s so hard saving for a house. Fucking boomers.
Oh yeah sure I’ll have another $11 latte, add a $9 croissant to that as well please We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (kJmLc) 199
Not to mention plenty of studies that say federal student loans actually increase tuition.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (n5tGW) Now do ethanol and corn. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (/+uur) 200
My Samsungs are under $50.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (guBvG) 201
197 Go to a Renaissance Faire, or a Comic-con.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (Gqar Hell no. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (gbGyB) Heh. It is an - interesting - anthropological excursion. Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (Gqar8) 202
Precisely. And let foreigners take a great number of college slots and ore bullshit ensues.
Insty ran a story yesterday on new data showing 2/3rds of Silicon Valley jobs are held by non-citizens. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (QZThv) 203
We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (kJmLc) Don't hate your children, they will be the ones who visit you most in the nursing home. Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (rbvCR) 204
We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain
Y'all didn't slap around the hippies, which led to Obama, which led to the pain. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:18 PM (QZThv) 205
What about furigners paying instate tuition.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:18 PM (guBvG) 206
Insty ran a story yesterday on new data showing 2/3rds of Silicon Valley jobs are held by non-citizens.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (QZThv) Time to cancel all H1-Bs and put a hard limit of foreigners in or universities. NONE of them were built by India, China or eurotrash Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:19 PM (kJmLc) 207
206 We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain
Y'all didn't slap around the hippies, which led to Obama, which led to the pain. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:18 PM (QZThv) Some WERE the hippies, but Some changed over time. It happens. Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:19 PM (Gqar8) 208
$500? That’s was like 10 years ago.
More like $1500 today. Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (nwGCR) I got a good samsung for... $350 a couple years ago. A53? Did not quite have the camera of the S or as much storage space, but it was $600 cheaper and the specs were remarkably similar to my eye. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:20 PM (bss/y) 209
187 My first instinct on these student loans is to say "no duh" to people with a philosophy major or equivalent, but I do find a modicum of sympathy at times for 18 year olds who were sold a bill of goods, go to college and you'll be totally successful. As it turns out, even the learn to code and many STEM students are going to be screwed.
Not to mention plenty of studies that say federal student loans actually increase tuition. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (n5tGW) It's easy to say yeah it's a bunch of stupid entitled kids making stupid decisions, but they're also being gaslit and defrauded. They spend their entire childhoods being indoctrinated by their parents, teachers, employers, the government and broader culture, that they MUST get a degree if they want a good job and have a successful life. So they believe it. They go into debt to get that degree to get a good job and a successful life. Then they discover that it wasn't true. They're slinging Starbucks the same as if they didn't have the degree, except now they have 30,60, 90 thousand dollars in debt that will take a decade or two to pay off and that can't be discharged in bankruptcy. Posted by: Screwed for doing what they were taught was the right thing at May 25, 2026 12:20 PM (TbWk/) 210
I kinda think, and I don't know how to test this, that if you bought a tract of land and built 1200sqft houses and sold them at $100k (just under $85/foot) you'd go bankrupt 'cause
1) no one would buy them, or 2) no bank would finance them Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM) 211
Don't hate your children, they will be the ones who visit you most in the nursing home.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (rbvCR) I raised by three to work while in school, refused to contribute to bullshit degrees, and gave them $0.00 for downpayments. The idea was "you stand on your own and if you fall, YOU pick yourself up and pay your way" Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:21 PM (kJmLc) 212
187 My first instinct on these student loans is to say "no duh" to people with a philosophy major or equivalent, but I do find a modicum of sympathy at times for 18 year olds who were sold a bill of goods, go to college and you'll be totally successful. As it turns out, even the learn to code and many STEM students are going to be screwed.
programmer with a philosophy degree here. made it through school without any student debt. Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (qdr3M) 213
I manage a couple of late 20-something’s. Both of them are married have kids and own a home. However what they have in common is they don’t live in expensive coastal cities. They live in flyover country.
The meme is nobody can afford a home. What they really mean is nobody in a handful of coastal blue shitholes can afford a home. Yeah kinda tough to afford a home in San Francisco or Seattle. Go to Dallas or Atlanta or Charlotte and you can afford a home. Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (nwGCR) 214
New houses are. too big and expensive.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (guBvG) 215
We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (kJmLc) The inflation created by money printing has destroyed most of the reason to save for the future, a penny saved is a penny eaten by inflation and fees. Inflation diverts the focus from long term to short term economics, if only to make sure the money keeps its worth. Inflation destroys futures and destroys virtue. Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (rbvCR) Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 12:24 PM (J4Dwc) 217
They spend their entire childhoods being indoctrinated by their parents, teachers, employers, the government and broader culture, that they MUST get a degree if they want a good job and have a successful life.
--- College degree became a high-caste marker decoupled from actual income. One thing the lefties hated Charlie for was saying that a college degree was worthless. Oh how that made them howl in anger and derision. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:24 PM (73/SM) 218
A lot of people keep their kids weak and dependent by funding them well into adulthood. If you cover their mortgage, they waste their money on bullshit and stay infantile. It's ok if they don't get a fancy vacay and flashy accessories. If you refuse to set limits and enforce them, you create entitled trash.
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:24 PM (kJmLc) 219
A major cure would be the full privatization of student loans. Good luck.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (T6aVk) A full 20 Republican Senators stand ready to vote with the Democrats to prevent this assault on the fundamental structure of the nation. -- Ted Cruz Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 12:25 PM (ExV1e) 220
Open thread Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:25 PM (bss/y) 221
Good friends just built a house not to far from us. He’s 27, good job, she’s 27 good job. No kids. His Dad helped them in the construction, he worked on it all the time in his spare time. It does happen.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:25 PM (Gqar8) 222
I first entered the home buying market when the interest was 12%. I also didn't demand my first house be a McMansion in an upper class neighborhood.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (qrzX6) 223
It’s not just the phones and lattes. Travel too. They’re obsessed with traveling. Which fine whatever. But you can’t have everything. Wanna see the world? Awesome. But you don’t get to do that at 25 and buy home.
This is the fundamental problem the kids have. They don’t understand tradeoffs. Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (nwGCR) 224
Inflation destroys futures and destroys virtue.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (rbvCR) In 1980, Inflation was 14.8 percent. I saved and bought a home anyway. sort of a dumb argument Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (kJmLc) 225
Saw at a apartment complex was working in very recently, rent was above $3G a month
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (Ia/+0) 226
191 169 You let 10s of millions of illegals into the country and guess what happens to the price of housing.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (viF8m) Precisely. And let foreigners take a great number of college slots and ore bullshit ensues. Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:14 PM (kJmLc) Yup. Was just going to mention that. Posted by: Joemarine at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (y171U) 227
In 1980, Inflation was 14.8 percent. I saved and bought a home anyway. sort of a dumb argument
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (kJmL Selfishly I'd like to have 12% CD rates again. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (qrzX6) 228
Inflation has always existed. Blaming that for inability to self control is silly.
Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (nwGCR) 229
I don't know if you could build a 1200 sq ft house with land for $100k. Internet tells me just the house averages $135/sf.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (n5tGW) 230
One thing the lefties hated Charlie for was saying that a college degree was worthless.
Oh how that made them howl in anger and derision. He's correct. If you have the skills and can get around the "degree proves you can do the job" gate you'll be fine. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (QZThv) 231
212 I kinda think, and I don't know how to test this, that if you bought a tract of land and built 1200sqft houses and sold them at $100k (just under $85/foot) you'd go bankrupt 'cause
1) no one would buy them, or 2) no bank would finance them Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM) 3) you can't build a 1200 sqft home for under $100,000. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (gbGyB) 232
224 I first entered the home buying market when the interest was 12%. I also didn't demand my first house be a McMansion in an upper class neighborhood.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (qrzX6) Yep. And small homes still exist. Brats don't want that. They want a 3500 sq ft home and money for European vacays and they cry like babies when that is not in their reach. LOSERS Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (kJmLc) 233
"There are two debt trends that intersect at about the age of 40. This is the average age now of first-time mortgage borrowers, and it is also the average age of those defaulting on their student loans."
So many begin college at 18 & graduate at 22 or 23, why - if a standard college/university degree - about an entire decade and a half later default? I know many teachers in PA who got Masters Degrees in Children's Theater, etc. so that they could qualify to teach elementary school and receive a much higher salary, but then dragged their feet paying their student loans. Here are but a few programs most eventually took advantage of: Federal Teacher Loan Forgiveness: Offers up to $17,500 in forgiveness for teaching full-time for five consecutive years in a designated low-income school. Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF): Forgives the remaining balance on your Direct Loans after making 120 qualifying monthly payments while working full-time for a qualifying public school. Perkins Loan Cancellation: Offers up to 100% cancellation for Federal Perkins Loans if you teach at a low-income school or in high-need fields like math, science, or special education. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (NFX2v) 234
There are similar programs for public service employees, nurses, yada yada.
--- Recently, under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act signed by President Trump, the Department of Education created a dual-tier federal loan limit for graduate students based on their degree classification. Effective July 1, 2026, the new rules eliminate Grad PLUS loans and set two distinct borrowing categories: Professional Degrees: Capped at $50,000 annually with a $200,000 lifetime limit. Qualifying degrees include Medicine (M.D.), Law (J.D.), Dentistry (D.D.S.), Pharmacy, and Clinical Psychology. Educational & Graduate Degrees: Capped at $20,500 annually with a $100,000 lifetime limit. This tier includes fields like nursing, education, social work, and general graduate studies. See Ed dot gov: Myth vs. Fact: The Definition of Professional Degrees, November 24, 2025 --- BTW, many years ago, the Federal government paid the tuition for many graduate programs if a certain GPA was maintained. Ergo, there were more Masters of Public Health than you can imagine for feds working in entirely unrelated fields. Worthless. (The same can be found through state governments.) Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (NFX2v) 235
I kinda think, and I don't know how to test this, that if you bought a tract of land and built 1200sqft houses and sold them at $100k (just under $85/foot) you'd go bankrupt 'cause
1) no one would buy them, or 2) no bank would finance them Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM) 3) you can't build a 1200 sqft home for under $100,000. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (gbGyB Prefab is the only way. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (qrzX6) 236
In 1980, Inflation was 14.8 percent. I saved and bought a home anyway. sort of a dumb argument
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (kJmLc) I will admit that you are right if you go find out what the average wage is for the job you held in 1980 is now, and what the average home price is in an equivalent neighborhood, and then draw up a monthly budget for the sort of family you had then now, with vague pricing for food and for the mortgage, insurance and automobile. Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:30 PM (rbvCR) 237
Yep. And small homes still exist. Brats don't want that. They want a 3500 sq ft home and money for European vacays and they cry like babies when that is not in their reach. LOSERS
I bought what in hindsight was a retardedly large house in 1997 when I was 24 and interest rates were >8%. Inflation is a very real thing, even if it's worked out well for Boomers. Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:32 PM (QZThv) 238
Prefab is the only way.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (qrzX6) I want to do steel. 1500 sqft home with 3000 sqft of shop attached to it. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:34 PM (gbGyB) 239
1986, paid 11.5% down, considerably lower from a few years before, for a dump of a single house - a small cottage/cape cod - which needed a ton of work. But it was the only way to get a single home after many years of working and having a family.
A million times I wanted out of the area to something much better, but stuck it out to put kids through catholic grade and high schools (I'm not Catholic), and have a better commute time to & from work. I could run now but everything well beyond this now urbanized area is too big and/or expensive for a retiree. Such is life. 🤷♀️ 1973 - new house $32,500; average income - $12,965. 1981 - new house $78,220; average income - $21,073. 1989 - new house $120,000; average income - $27,225 Quit whining. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 12:43 PM (NFX2v) 240
BTW, in the Philadelphia region, the vast majority of landlords are "mom-and-pop" operations or individual family investors (1 to 10 units) rather than massive institutional buyers. (Generational wealth HAS been a thing since well before C19.)
(You'd probably find most large cities are very similar in ownership and rentals.) While individual families control the majority of the market, large corporate buyers have recently increased their presence. Corporate investors own about 8.8% of single-family rentals in Philadelphia, and that has been moving into the collar counties, too. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 12:49 PM (NFX2v) 241
I bought what in hindsight was a retardedly large house in 1997 when I was 24 and interest rates were >8%. Inflation is a very real thing, even if it's worked out well for Boomers.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:32 PM (QZThv) The interest rate in 1980, for us boomers was 13%- and 16% a year later, now it is about 5% Stop whining Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 01:24 PM (kJmLc) 242
If colleges were to cut tuition and room/board costs, then how could they pay the administrators? I guess they could cut instructor/professor pay.
J/k. I know there is much bloat in higher ed (as well as K12). Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 25, 2026 01:27 PM (FMtrg) 243
Good one, Buck!
Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 01:47 PM (6wpGE) 244
220 Open thread Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:25 PM (bss/y) Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 01:48 PM (6wpGE) Mid-Morning Art Thread![]() Norman Rockwell Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
/plants mended flag
Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (N5734) 2
Is that legal?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Kt19C) 3
Love this
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (znREB) 4
nice
Posted by: doug at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Hy+R4) 5
Superman's mom
Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (ZxPkt) 6
I always found it oddly, but appropriately, disturbing to say --and or wish anyone -- a "Happy Memorial Day."
Nice selection, CBD! Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (OLFlC) 7
Heavens to Betsy!
Posted by: Pete in Texas at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (X3i+d) 8
Perfect... A Blessed Memorial Day to you all.....
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (FtULh) 9
It's a grand old flag....
Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (XuXeR) Posted by: Pete in Texas at May 25, 2026 09:35 AM (X3i+d) 11
A lovely painting for Memorial Day. The hat suggests Sewing Lady's husband was a Union officer. This must be set around 1900 if he's still alive, or maybe a little later if she's got the hat out to remind herself of him.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:35 AM (wzUl9) 12
Knit one, pearl two...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:35 AM (jehhT) 13
A beautiful sentiment, and a good choice for the day. Thanks CBD.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:35 AM (PSpan) 14
Why would it be illegal?
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 09:36 AM (Ia/+0) 15
6 You wish someone a “good” or “blessed” Memorial Day.
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 09:37 AM (77rzZ) 16
Nice touch of the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR) soldier's hat.
The presence of the hat suggests the seamstress may be a Civil War widow, adding deeper patriotic and memorial significance to the act of mending the flag. [Per Brave "AI":] "The painting depicts a seamstress mending an American flag on Memorial Day (published May 27, 1922). The hat, propped on a sewing box, serves as a poignant reminder of the Civil War era, as 1922 marked the last time Civil War veterans marched in a presidential parade." Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (OLFlC) 17
I am playing with ny iphone's vision accessibility settings.
Hover text & hover keyboard might ge useful for this site Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (znREB) 18
Why would it be illegal?
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 *** You can *mend* a U.S. flag, I'm sure; certainly you'd want to keep it in good repair. It's allowing it to fall on the ground (I've heard) that is supposed to be a no-no. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9) 19
Grandma was thoughtful that day, my friends.
Posted by: George Costanza at May 25, 2026 09:39 AM (2Ez/1) 20
Norman Rockwell has always been my favorite artist of the 20th century. A wonderful counter to the stupid modern art culture.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the field in Oregon at May 25, 2026 09:39 AM (/UBLm) 21
The number of stars in the flag would be a clue as to the time period of this painting, but we can't see how many there are. There's lots of space between them, though.
Maybe it has 46 stars, and this is set before NM and AZ became states in 1912. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:39 AM (wzUl9) 22
would hang!
Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:41 AM (5rh/l) 23
Good morning, friends!
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 09:42 AM (Wmg4n) 24
On The Minature Page couple days ago guy posted a article on the flag from Military. Com, but couldn't find articles there to link it
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 09:43 AM (Ia/+0) 25
You wish someone a “good” or “blessed” Memorial Day.
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 09:37 AM (77rzZ) ------------- Thanks, Bulg. Those were not among the manners I learned from my single mom ... but will do so going forward. Although not religious, I spoke 30 minutes with a couple of young female LDS Missionaries a few days ago, and for the first time in my life wished others "A Blessed Day" -- so it's growing on me. One other thing of note: I have noticed in the past decade people saying to me "I appreciate YOU" -- which is usually from Christians, and throws me for a loop (strikes me as both un-humble and taking into account facts not necessarily in evidence). I have a hard time saying it to others, having ubiquitously said "I appreciate IT" to others when they behave in a kind manner. Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:43 AM (OLFlC) 26
Excellent choice for today. Thanks, CBD.
Piper, happy birthday to you and JJ. Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at May 25, 2026 09:44 AM (+iIfu) 27
This is sew good.
Posted by: Oh, no... at May 25, 2026 09:44 AM (2Ez/1) 28
Is that legal?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Kt19C) No. By law, you are required to take all damaged flags to the manufacturer for repairs. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:45 AM (1Ff7Z) 29
Love the red, white, and blue flowered circular throw rug.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:46 AM (OLFlC) 30
It took me awhile to figure out that the hat was resting on a basket and not on a thirteenth-century tournament helm.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 09:47 AM (gKWVE) 31
I wish our national leadership was as easily mended.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 09:47 AM (RIvkX) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 09:47 AM (HdYcL) 33
Not to needle anyone, but if this thread turns into another pun contest I'll be bobbin' out the door.
Posted by: PabloD at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (K1RVP) 34
… Thanks, CBD.
Posted by: Dr_No at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (ayRl+) Posted by: Groan at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1) 36
Given the time frame. The woman repairing the flag could also be the "manufacturer".
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (VCgbV) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (HdYcL) 38
No need to hem and haw
Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 09:49 AM (ZxPkt) 39
You're knot kidding.
Posted by: Groan at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1) Run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:49 AM (1Ff7Z) 40
DARN IT!
Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 09:49 AM (ZxPkt) 41
I've visited The Betsy Ross House and bought a Betsy Ross flag t-shirt. I'm told this makes me a racist.
Posted by: Delurker at May 25, 2026 09:50 AM (gtcuf) 42
33 Not to needle anyone, but if this thread turns into another pun contest I'll be bobbin' out the door.
Posted by: PabloD +++++++ I think they're just getting unfurled. Posted by: Make it stop at May 25, 2026 09:50 AM (2Ez/1) 43
Beautiful art is not didactic.
Posted by: Accomack at May 25, 2026 09:50 AM (6jy2V) 44
Nice touch of the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR) soldier's hat.
The presence of the hat suggests the seamstress may be a Civil War widow, adding deeper patriotic and memorial significance to the act of mending the flag. Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (OLFlC) --- My grandmother's neighbor was a very old woman and in her parlor was her father's GAR sword, which I was permitted to handle once. It's telling that the people most hateful towards US history have so few personal links to it. It's all abstract online manufactured wrath. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s) 45
My big kitty decided to come visit me in bed to get pets. I have discovered a few mats that I need to take care of. He's not going to like it...
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 09:51 AM (VCgbV) 46
I don't like posting comments on my iPad. All of my clever puns have been stolen. Much quicker on my desktop.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the field in Oregon at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (/UBLm) 47
One other thing of note: I have noticed in the past decade people saying to me "I appreciate YOU" -- which is usually from Christians, and throws me for a loop (strikes me as both un-humble and taking into account facts not necessarily in evidence). I have a hard time saying it to others, having ubiquitously said "I appreciate IT" to others when they behave in a kind manner.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:43 AM (OLFlC) In the South, we say appreciate you for a lot of things. It’s multi purpose. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (OoFl2) 48
It's a thimble of our United Thtates.
Posted by: Delurker at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (gtcuf) Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (1Ff7Z) 50
One can legally mend a flag. I like this. Watched my dad mend a flag or two and this is really nice way to be reminded of that. Thanks cbd!
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (xvXRY) 51
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Can we remove a couple of states and take it back to 48? Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (HdYcL) If we're limited to two, I would have once said "California and New York." NY is still the larger necrotic gaping wound on the thorax of the nation... but Minnesota is so repulsive now that I think it's moved up in the power rankings, simply by virtue of how nasty it is. I would have to go after NY third, at this point. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (BI5O2) 52
It took me awhile to figure out that the hat was resting on a basket and not on a thirteenth-century tournament helm.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 09:47 AM (gKWVE) --- We sometimes see what we want to see. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 09:53 AM (ZOv7s) 53
My big kitty decided to come visit me in bed to get pets. I have discovered a few mats that I need to take care of. He's not going to like it...
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 *** Big black Stirling is up here on my desk next to the computer. He's a medium-hair, so mats are unlikely. Little Dagny the Siberian needs to be combed more often than I do it -- she grooms herself, but there are areas she apparently can't reach. To tie this back into the painting, I suspect Sewing Lady has locked the cats out of the room. They'd be pawing at that flag for sure. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:54 AM (wzUl9) 54
39 You're knot kidding.
Posted by: Groan at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1) Run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes. ________ You're just stringing us along. Posted by: Rimshot at May 25, 2026 09:54 AM (2Ez/1) 55
In the South, we say appreciate you for a lot of things. It’s multi purpose.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 *** And then there's "Bless his/her heart," which has another meaning entirely . . . Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:55 AM (wzUl9) 56
You're knot kidding.
Posted by: Groan at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1) * Run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes. ________ You're just stringing us along. Posted by: Rimshot at May 25, 2026 *** Roping in the newbies Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:55 AM (wzUl9) 57
In the South, we say appreciate you for a lot of things. It’s multi purpose.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM +++++++ Bless your heart. Posted by: Your grandmother at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (2Ez/1) 58
This vaguely reminds me of Grandma. Mostly, in the slight smile and contented look on her face as she concentrated on doing some little chore or cooking. She was a Gold Star Mother, so Memorial Day was never a happy day but one of remembrance. She would proudly display the little Gold Star Mother banner(?) in the living room window, so it could be seen from the street. For those not there at the time, our wonderful hippies and anti-wartards often targeted Gold Star Mothers on that day with ridicule and shaming. Fortunately, Grandma never had any of that. You never see the Gold Star in the windows of houses these days but at that time it was a fairly common sight. Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (iJfKG) 59
Per Brave "AI":] "The painting depicts a seamstress mending an American flag on Memorial Day (published May 27, 1922). The hat, propped on a sewing box, serves as a poignant reminder of the Civil War era, as 1922 marked the last time Civil War veterans marched in a presidential parade."
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (OLFlC) Presidential parade, yes. I believe the last public gathering of any kind was an anniversary celebration at Gettysburg in 1937, which managed to find 4 veterans (from both sides) still able to participate. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (ykvlb) 60
The scene is simple: an older lady repairing a flag. That's the first impression. But her expression is serene. The hat indicates a husband or son, possibly lost in war. She is not crushed by the loss but honors the flag he followed and cherishes her memories of the man. Her age shows she didn't give up or despair but carried on a life the sacrifice ensured.
In its understated way the painting speaks of dedication, acceptance, appreciation, and patriotism. Just dealing with the technical aspects, enlarge the image. The overall impression is soft but realistic. The detail reveals the soft, rather dry, brush work Rockwell used. Part of his talent was choosing the colors and blending them effectively to create an illusion of realism. Posted by: JTB at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (yTvNw) 61
There's another Memorial Day in this country, but we're no t supposed to remember that day. Are we?
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 09:57 AM (LHPAg) 62
Necrotic Gaping Wound would be a good name for a rock band.
Posted by: In the spirit of Dave Barry at May 25, 2026 09:58 AM (2Ez/1) 63
Roping in the newbies
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:55 AM (wzUl9) Only on the fly. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:58 AM (1Ff7Z) 64
You never see the Gold Star in the windows of houses these days but at that time it was a fairly common sight.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (iJfKG) --- There were both blue and gold stars visible around here during the GWOT. Yellow ribbon banners as well. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (ZOv7s) 65
I think I've seen it said that it was the Spanish-American War that led to a real reconciliation of North and South. In 1913, Union and Confederate veterans met again at Gettysburg. The boys who 50 years earlier were trying to blow each other to smithereens were now greybeards swapping stories and, no doubt, bottles of the stuff that cheered. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (HdYcL) 66
These flag puns are rather...flagrant.
Posted by: Ugh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (2Ez/1) Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (NFX2v) 68
Poignant.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (bss/y) 69
These flag puns are rather...flagrant.
Posted by: Ugh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (2Ez/1) Yeah, I guess I'll stop. Consider this my finial one. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (1Ff7Z) 70
Love the detail. The rug, the gold fringe on the flag, the drapes, the flower in the window, her chair.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (2Ez/1) 71
69 These flag puns are rather...flagrant.
Posted by: Ugh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (2Ez/1) Yeah, I guess I'll stop. Consider this my finial one. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (1Ff7Z) You didn't wave goodbye. Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 10:04 AM (LHPAg) 72
I think I've seen it said that it was the Spanish-American War that led to a real reconciliation of North and South.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (HdYcL) --- The degree of hatred has been vastly overstated. The leaders of course set an example, which was in large part because they knew each other before the war, were classmates and wished it had all never happened. So you see various generals serving as pall-bearers for their opponents. But the troops fraternized constantly, traded supplies, and while much was made of Chamberlain ordering his troops to salute the Confederates after Appomattox, the respect was real. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:05 AM (ZOv7s) 73
Yeah, I guess I'll stop. Consider this my finial one. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM ----- It's been a banner day for puns. Posted by: It waves at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM (2Ez/1) 74
Is it me or is the corner of the flag touching the rug?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM (2GVsD) 75
I'm the oldest living veteran in my family. That just feels weird.
I love this painting as I do most of Rockwell's art. He had a gift. Pretty sure it's a 48 star flag. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM (gbGyB) 76
It's you.
Posted by: The way I always answer that question at May 25, 2026 10:07 AM (2Ez/1) 77
Very appropriate. Would hang
Thx CBD Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 10:08 AM (hpwtA) 78
Yeah, I guess I'll stop. Consider this my finial one.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (1Ff7Z) You didn't wave goodbye. Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 10:04 AM (LHPAg) I didn't want to vex anyone. I'm not a vexillologist. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:09 AM (1Ff7Z) 79
As a side note, when Churchill addressed the Civil War in his History of the English Speaking Peoples, he made a particular point that the battles were far fiercer than those in Europe.
He expressed awe (and perhaps a little maternal pride)at units on both sides that regularly fought to the point of annihilation, and he later reflected on this when America entered the war. He did not at all think Americans were soft because he knew what they were capable of doing. The Germans and Japanese found out the hard way. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:09 AM (ZOv7s) 80
I'd really like to know what became of my bud after AIT, Fort Jackson in '64. A Vermonter by the name of Alden R. Carter. Ask a question, get one of two 'Alden' answers: "Aaaaaaaah-yup!" or "Aaaaaaaaa-nope!". He shipped out and was assigned Americal Division in '64 and I returned to my home unit. We corresponded for about 6 months, then the letters stopped. Alden, if you're still out there, welcome home. I hope you're safe … and remember the weekend in Charlotte, SC. Yeah, good times, huh … ? [R]
(an aside: When we checked our Company bulletin board to see who was going where, at least 93% of us were assigned to "DaNang Air Base, VietNam, South, Republic Of" … Posted by: Dr_No at May 25, 2026 10:09 AM (ayRl+) 81
Looking at the alignment of the stars in the blue field; yes, it is a 48-star flag.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:09 AM (2GVsD) 82
74 Is it me or is the corner of the flag touching the rug?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM (2GVsD) The tassel* maybe. *Odd, I typed it as tassle. I thought that was correct. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 10:10 AM (bss/y) 83
By the way, Middle Daughter has completed her enlistment. Another veteran added to the family tree.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:10 AM (ZOv7s) 84
It's been a banner day for puns.
Posted by: It waves at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM ******* Just a fabrication. Posted by: Please make it stop! at May 25, 2026 10:11 AM (2Ez/1) 85
I think I've seen it said that it was the Spanish-American War that led to a real reconciliation of North and South.
In 1913, Union and Confederate veterans met again at Gettysburg. The boys who 50 years earlier were trying to blow each other to smithereens were now greybeards swapping stories and, no doubt, bottles of the stuff that cheered. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (HdYcL) ---------- Great point, Hadrian. Can't help recalling that it was during the Mexican-American War that Grand and Lee first met when their paths crossed during the march from Veracruz to Mexico City in 1847. Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 10:11 AM (OLFlC) 86
*GRANT and Lee
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 10:11 AM (OLFlC) 87
It's been a banner day for puns.
Posted by: It waves at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM ******* Just a fabrication. Posted by: Please make it stop! at May 25, 2026 10:11 AM (2Ez/1) -------------- Be still my fluttering heart. Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (OLFlC) 88
1. No one cares
2. 100-comment rule Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (J4Dwc) 89
Grant and Lee, both names for the M-3 tank of World War II.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (2GVsD) Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (X8xt3) 91
>>"The painting depicts a seamstress mending an American flag on Memorial Day (published May 27, 1922). The hat, propped on a sewing box, serves as a poignant reminder of the Civil War era, as 1922 marked the last time Civil War veterans marched in a presidential parade."
Ooh, nice detail! Thanks Also, a reminder of how unique our nation's recovery from the civil war was, as it's likely it was veterans from both sides marching. Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:15 AM (X8xt3) 92
We had one of the kids at work recently complete Air Force basic training. He came by on leave to say hi and ran into 4 of us old decrepid vets bs-ing.
I said welcome to the club. The look on his face when that hit him was funny as hell. Yeah kid, you got youth and vitallity now. Just wait. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (gbGyB) 93
Happy Birthday, Piper, if you are still around.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (0nHVk) Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (X8xt3) 95
Coffee immediately became an issue because of the northern blockade of the south. Of course there are substitutes like Chicory or roasted acorns, but …. as everyone knows there isn’t really a substitute.
But the South had Tobacco. So plenty of trading went on for those two commodities. Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (HpBvd) 96
"Oh so proudly we pun."
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (2GVsD) 97
Grant and Lee, both names for the M-3 tank of World War II.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (2GVsD) Anyone remember the 90s band Grant Lee Buffalo? Also, there was the Brewster Buffalo. An early war fighter. Stubby thing with wings. Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (rgnea) 98
By the way, Middle Daughter has completed her enlistment. Another veteran added to the family tree.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:10 AM (ZOv7s) ------------ Congratulations to you and her! I must be really old-fashioned and old; on the one hand, I admire young women who wish to serve in any capacity in military service -- especially war (we're currently re-watching "China Beach"); on the other hand, I have this idyllic notion that women are far too valuable to be put at risk, and that only men should be put at risk in the military and during war. Oh well, get off my lawn ... Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party should change its name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [ at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (OLFlC) 99
Grant and Lee, both names for the M-3 tank of World War II.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (2GVsD) --- The Brits couldn't deal with the weird American practice of attaching "M" and a growing stream of numbers and letters to everything, so they decided to pick American generals to keep the models straight. Kind of funny that the flyers (AAC and Navy) did the nickname thing without being prompted. (And then the Brits changed them all when they got them.) Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:19 AM (ZOv7s) 100
I will not be in union with these punsters.
Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:19 AM (rgnea) 101
97 Grant and Lee, both names for the M-3 tank of World War II.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (2GVsD) Anyone remember the 90s band Grant Lee Buffalo? Also, there was the Brewster Buffalo. An early war fighter. Stubby thing with wings. Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (rgnea) Buffalo Springfield? They made paving equipment. Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 10:19 AM (LHPAg) 102
"Oh so proudly we pun."
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (2GVsD) -------------- "... at the twilight's last streaming." Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat s should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/s at May 25, 2026 10:20 AM (OLFlC) 103
really like to know what became of my bud after AIT, Fort Jackson in '64. A Vermonter by the name of Alden R. Carter. Ask a question, get one of two 'Alden' answers: "Aaaaaaaah-yup!" or "Aaaaaaaaa-nope!
Not to loquacious, could he have become a author? https://tinyurl.com/mukh56hf Posted by: From about That Time at May 25, 2026 10:20 AM (sl73Y) 104
28 Is that legal?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Kt19C) No. By law, you are required to take all damaged flags to the manufacturer for repairs. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:45 AM (1Ff7Z) ----- Funny! Especially considering how many are made in China! Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (cWLG3) 105
93 Happy Birthday, Piper, if you are still around.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (0nHVk) Thank you! On the porch enjoying coffee. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (OoFl2) 106
I have this idyllic notion that women are far too valuable to be put at risk, and that only men should be put at risk in the military and during war.
Oh well, get off my lawn ... Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party should change its name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [ at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (OLFlC) I too feel this way. Not a popular position to take but I will never waiver in my belief that protection of women and children is the paramont role of a male. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (gbGyB) 107
Old and busted: The Princess and the Pea
New and cool: The Princess and the Cashew-Based Vegan Cream Cheese https://tinyurl.com/4f5efdme Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (ndZc7) 108
Brewster Buffalo was not well loved. Easy to shoot down. One commander suggested that anyone scheduled to fly one in combat should be considered KIA before they even take off. Not a ringing endorsement.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (HpBvd) 109
I must be really old-fashioned and old; on the one hand, I admire young women who wish to serve in any capacity in military service -- especially war (we're currently re-watching "China Beach"); on the other hand, I have this idyllic notion that women are far too valuable to be put at risk, and that only men should be put at risk in the military and during war.
Oh well, get off my lawn ... Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party should change its name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [ at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (OLFlC) --- I am quite the curmudgeon myself. I advised against it, told her that women really have no place in a proper military, and absolutely told her to stay away from the military police (she wanted to be a cop and went through the vocational training for it in high school). She became a medic, and that has worked out for her. So yeah, military hospitals are okay, but feminizing the military has been a complete disaster. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (ZOv7s) 110
I will not be in union with these punsters.
Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:19 AM (rgnea) --------------- A confederate. Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat's must change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [ at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (OLFlC) 111
Have a blessed Memorial Day!
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (wVcYX) 112
>>By the way, Middle Daughter has completed her enlistment. Another veteran added to the family tree.
Congratulations! Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (X8xt3) Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:23 AM (HpBvd) 114
Ah the Brits. They called the Douglas BD-7B the Boson. The Turbolite equipped night fighter became the Havoc The USAAF called it the A-20 Havoc.
Wildcat - > Martlet Avenger -> Tarpon -> Avenger. As for Brewster, the F2A/B-339 fared poorly in Commonwealth and US hands but the Finns used it to great success. Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:24 AM (2GVsD) 115
She became a medic, and that has worked out for her. So yeah, military hospitals are okay, but feminizing the military has been a complete disaster.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (ZOv7s) ------------ Nice! And agree with your final sentiment. Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats must change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it[/u at May 25, 2026 10:24 AM (OLFlC) 116
Old and busted: Dark horse candidate
New and cool: Dark donkey candidate https://tinyurl.com/2sfmaxd5 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:24 AM (ndZc7) 117
I have this idyllic notion that women are far too valuable to be put at risk, and that only men should be put at risk in the military and during war.
You can view it as idyllic, but in the sense of survival of the species, keeping the women away from harm is the obvious thing to do. One man can impregnate lots of women, but children are generated one woman at a time. Face it guys, we're much more expendable. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:25 AM (Riz8t) 118
The Finns were glad for anything they could get at that point
Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:25 AM (HpBvd) 119
There's both a Grant and Lee streets in Manassas. And yes, they intersect.
Posted by: War Between The States Trivia at May 25, 2026 10:26 AM (2Ez/1) 120
>> Anyone remember the 90s band Grant Lee Buffalo?
Heh, yes. And who could forget the CU Buffalos. Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:26 AM (X8xt3) 121
JJ Sefton sure had a banner set of links this morning.
I'm looking at Rainer Zitelmann, New Space Capitalism. It'll be a check on space commies like the Weinersmith couple. I didn't know Skyhorse - the publisher - also aliases as Night Shade. They're the mad lads who published all Clark Ashton Smith's stuff. Also Neal Asher and other SF. Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 10:26 AM (gKWVE) 122
Piper, my birthday also. Happy birthday.
I might have got there first. Posted by: From about That Time at May 25, 2026 10:26 AM (sl73Y) 123
Not a popular position to take….
Says who? That’s part of the problem. Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:23 AM (HpBvd) --- I think the tide has turned on being able to speak openly about it. We tried it the other way, and it failed. Spectacularly. Women are too irreplaceable to use as bullet stops. If you put them in a coed environment, pregnancy results. Huge problem with morale and combat effectiveness. My daughter (like all the kids today) has come around to see that yes, Dad knows what he was talking about. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:27 AM (ZOv7s) 124
I too feel this way. Not a popular position to take but I will never waiver in my belief that protection of women and children is the paramont role of a male.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (gbGyB) ------------- Indeed. I mean, it is virtually instinctual to the "toxic" masculine among us ... Posted by: Shain S at May 25, 2026 10:27 AM (OLFlC) 125
New and cool: The Princess and the Cashew-Based Vegan Cream Cheese
https://tinyurl.com/4f5efdme Taylor Lorenz has to be the most pampered and least self-aware human being in all the land. Today's complaint? New York bagel shops don't have the kind of cream cheese Taylor likes and she thinks Zohran Mamdani should force them to carry it. I was chatting with my youngest (liberal) daughter, and laughingly mentioned TL. My daughter was appalled that I knew her name, telling me I spend too much time on line, and mocked her thoroughly, especially her pretensions to youth. I think TL is an equal opportunity target; both right and left think she's ridiculous. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:28 AM (Riz8t) 126
Co-ed anything is a disaster, truth be told. Military just highlights it to the logical extreme.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:29 AM (HpBvd) 127
When was the last time anyone saw a message from IronGrandpa?
Posted by: Brunnhilde at May 25, 2026 10:29 AM (3AwA+) 128
As for Brewster, the F2A/B-339 fared poorly in Commonwealth and US hands but the Finns used it to great success.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:24 AM (2GVsD) --- Well yeah, they were going against I-15s and I-16s. An entire shipment of them in Spain had manufacturing defects and literally came apart. The whole fleet was grounded and of course the cause was determined to be "wreckers and saboteurs," not crappy quality control. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:29 AM (ZOv7s) 129
And stop with all the female police chiefs.
Posted by: Fight me at May 25, 2026 10:30 AM (2Ez/1) 130
According to Wiki, the Finns scored 432 victories with the Brewster B-339 Buffalo. Which places the plane firmly as #2 after the Bf 109 variants with 592 victories.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:30 AM (2GVsD) 131
A warning from Justice Jumanji.
ABC News @ABC Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters. . . . . "It can so easily be perceived that the court is doing something political," Jackson said in conversation with U.S. District Court Judge Richard Gergel. "In my view, we have to be really, really careful in this environment when we're dealing with issues that have a political overlay. We have to be scrupulous about sticking to the principles and the rules that we apply in every case and not look as though we're doing something different in this kind of context." Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:30 AM (ndZc7) 132
@128 they should form brigades of Battle Sisters, like in Warhammer.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:31 AM (cWLG3) Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:31 AM (2GVsD) 134
@126
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:31 AM (cWLG3) 135
You can view it as idyllic, but in the sense of survival of the species, keeping the women away from harm is the obvious thing to do. One man can impregnate lots of women, but children are generated one woman at a time. Face it guys, we're much more expendable.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:25 AM (Riz8t) ------------ Yes. /I was being sarcastic using the term "idyllic" -- and should have put it in irony quotes -- as indeed it's merely a case of being more pragmatic than idyllic. Posted by: Shain S at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (OLFlC) 136
Buffalo Springfield? They made paving equipment.
Posted by: Eromero I have a small caliber Springfield, not capable of bringing down a buffalo. Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (rgnea) 137
According to Wiki, the Finns scored 432 victories with the Brewster B-339 Buffalo. Which places the plane firmly as #2 after the Bf 109 variants with 592 victories.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:30 AM (2GVsD) --- I believe both of the Polikarpovs had negative kill ratios. They sucked against everything they went up against. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (ZOv7s) 138
We had a Personell unit around the corner in West Germany during Desert Shield. Probably 80% women and 20% gay. Within 2 months of that units deployment to Saudi most of the women had returned pregnent.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (gbGyB) 139
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . . "It can so easily be perceived that the court is doing something political," Jackson said in conversation with U.S. District Court Judge Richard Gergel. "In my view, we have to be really, really careful in this environment when we're dealing with issues that have a political overlay. We have to be scrupulous about sticking to the principles and the rules that we apply in every case and not look as though we're doing something different in this kind of context." You're wrong. Justices are not political...at all. Also, I want a pony. Posted by: CJ Roberts at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (Riz8t) Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1) 141
The degree of hatred has been vastly overstated. The leaders of course set an example, which was in large part because they knew each other before the war, were classmates and wished it had all never happened.
So you see various generals serving as pall-bearers for their opponents. But the troops fraternized constantly, traded supplies, and while much was made of Chamberlain ordering his troops to salute the Confederates after Appomattox, the respect was real. --- But AOC and her goofball Battalion of Bucktooths is gonna "pull up" on the South and show them what-for 'cause that's what the North should've done back when. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (73/SM) 142
139 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . . Says the queen of political Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (FtULh) 143
>>I think the tide has turned on being able to speak openly about it. We tried it the other way, and it failed. Spectacularly.
Years of working with and for women, as well as witnessing the dysfunction of feminism, has shaped my opinion that women are not suited for a lot of areas of the military. We ae different, men and women. *I am reminded of the boat crash that occurred because the female captain and another critical woman in command were not speaking to each other. Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (X8xt3) 144
Justice Brown projective vomits too much
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:34 AM (2GVsD) 145
they should form brigades of Battle Sisters, like in Warhammer.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:31 AM (cWLG3) --- That's what they used to do, and it worked. All-female support units. Female ferry pilots in female squadrons. No fraternization, period. Now you have the militaries of Australia, Canada and New Zealand run by Karens. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:35 AM (ZOv7s) 146
Justice Brown projective vomits too much
Both her projectile vomiting and her speech involve opening her mouth when it should stay closed and emitting unpleasant substances. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:35 AM (Riz8t) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:35 AM (ndZc7) 148
>>Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
Hey, can we go back to when "Biden" nominated her and verify that he was, in fact, making that decision? Maybe she's so bad because the person that selected her was Auto Pen. Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (X8xt3) 149
*I am reminded of the boat crash that occurred because the female captain and another critical woman in command were not speaking to each other.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM She knows what she did. Posted by: Court Martial Official Record at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (2Ez/1) 150
> Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
---------- Tell us more about Kagan's dragging her feet on releasing her dissent on the redistricting so the states would have time to figure out another scam and how that isn't already "impartiality in political matters." Dipshit. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (jehhT) 151
140 131 A warning from Justice Jumanji. ......... She talks too much and says too little. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1) She who talks loud, say nothing. (H/T "Dead Man") Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (cWLG3) 152
The degree of hatred has been vastly overstated. ___________ When you got down to the nut-cutting, it was as savage as you can imagine. Read accounts of the Bloody Angle and you wonder at the capacity of the human mind to function. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (HdYcL) 153
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . . "It can so easily be perceived that the court is doing something political," Jackson said in conversation with U.S. District Court Judge Richard Gergel. --------------- The U.S. Constitution clearly forbids discrimination based solely upon race. You view EVERYTHING through the lens of race. lol gf Posted by: Shain S at May 25, 2026 10:37 AM (OLFlC) 154
*I am reminded of the boat crash that occurred because the female captain and another critical woman in command were not speaking to each other.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (X8xt3) --- Which one? There was the destroyer collision, but New Zealand lost a research vessel because the Captain (who was not qualified for the ship!) ran it onto a reef. The audio of the bridge is one of the most horrifying things you will ever hear. She literally admonished the crew to GO TO THE BATHROOM BEFORE BOARDING THE LIFEBOATS. Oh, and grab some snacks, and some water, you know, because THE SHIP IS SINKING. Unbelievable. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:37 AM (ZOv7s) 155
Oh, and grab some snacks, and some water, you know, because THE SHIP IS SINKING. Unbelievable. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:37 AM (ZOv7s) ___________ "My lucky coat!" Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:39 AM (HdYcL) 156
She talks too much and says too little.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1) She who talks loud, say nothing. (H/T "Dead Man") There is bovine excrement in Jackson's words of death for all men to see. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:39 AM (Riz8t) 157
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . . "It can so easily be perceived that the court is doing something political," Jackson said in conversation with U.S. District Court Judge Richard Gergel. "In my view, we have to be really, really careful in this environment when we're dealing with issues that have a political overlay. We have to be scrupulous about sticking to the principles and the rules that we apply in every case and not look as though we're doing something different in this kind of context." You're wrong. Justices are not political...at all. Also, I want a pony. Posted by: CJ Roberts at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (Riz8t) You know, right here, Ketamine Broadway Jackass illustrates why she's unable to serve as a Supreme Court Judge despite having the job: She thinks the Constitution can be overruled and not followed in court cases if if if it offends her sense of politics. That should never be the case. Even if it is, most SCJs can squeak in a Constitutional reasoning for their horrible political decision (see Roberts). Not this a-hole. Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 10:39 AM (iJfKG) 158
She knows what she did.
Posted by: Court Martial Official Record at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (2Ez/1) This place. Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:39 AM (gbGyB) 159
The NZ ship sinking, yeah that audio recording.
The bridge crew and the Captain forgot the silly thing was on autopilot until after the ship had hit the reef. Lloyd, she reminded the crew TWICE to go use the bathroom on the PA system. Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:40 AM (2GVsD) 160
When you got down to the nut-cutting, it was as savage as you can imagine. Read accounts of the Bloody Angle and you wonder at the capacity of the human mind to function.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (HdYcL) --- The heat of battle is a unique environment. And yes, there were atrocities, but there was also respect and, ultimately, a desire to make it all stop. AOC can fantasize about "pulling up" because she knows she's protected. A huge factor in reconciliation was the idea that enough killing had happened. The issue was settled, let's get on with life. Same with Germany and Japan. Yeah, war criminals escaped justice, but killing them would have meant losing more of our guys and it's just not worth it. One of the (many) demonic aspects of the left is their inability to forgive anyone but themselves. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:40 AM (ZOv7s) 161
122 Piper, my birthday also. Happy birthday.
I might have got there first. Posted by: From about That Time at May Happy birthday to you! Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:40 AM (p4NUW) 162
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters
So, in order to restore the court's political impartiality, they should find for the other political party? Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2026 10:41 AM (zw+xd) 163
Yes.
/I was being sarcastic using the term "idyllic" -- and should have put it in irony quotes -- as indeed it's merely a case of being more pragmatic than idyllic. Yeah, but you were expecting me to be quick on the uptake. That was your big mistake. Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:41 AM (Riz8t) 164
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The degree of hatred has been vastly overstated. ___________ When you got down to the nut-cutting, it was as savage as you can imagine. Read accounts of the Bloody Angle and you wonder at the capacity of the human mind to function. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (HdYcL) Lots of mythology associated with the American Civil War. Most of the post war writings were hugely agenda driven, with an eye to sanitizing events, and ass covering by participants in command. Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 10:41 AM (Gqar8) 165
"Attention all hands! Prepare to abandon ship! This is not a drill. Use the bathroom, be sure to wash your hands. I repeat, BE SURE TO WASH YOUR HANDS. That is all."
Posted by: The Giant Voice at May 25, 2026 10:42 AM (ZOv7s) 166
140 131 A warning from Justice Jumanji.
......... She talks too much and says too little. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1) She who talks loud, say nothing. (H/T "Dead Man") Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (cWLG3) "An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers." Posted by: Plato at May 25, 2026 10:44 AM (wVcYX) 167
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . . --- Imagine asking her to name one 5-4 decisions that was not seen as political. her complaint is not the politics, it's that her side came out on the losing side. And especially, if it had been 5-4 in her favor, she'd be thundering in righteous indignation, ranting against those who dare question the impartiality of the Court. Fuck her, stupid DEI bint. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 10:44 AM (73/SM) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:44 AM (HdYcL) 169
Bongeno needs a little spell checking.
Memorial Day: Honoring the Fallen, Remembering the Forgetten Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:45 AM (ndZc7) 170
165 "Attention all hands! Prepare to abandon ship! This is not a drill. Use the bathroom, be sure to wash your hands. I repeat, BE SURE TO WASH YOUR HANDS. That is all."
Posted by: The Giant Voice at May 25, 2026 10:42 AM (ZOv7s) Food safety is EVERYONE'S responsibility! Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 10:47 AM (bss/y) 171
>>Imagine asking her to name one 5-4 decisions that was not seen as political.
her complaint is not the politics, it's that her side came out on the losing side. This. She's like the female Obama. Long on empty talk and lectures, short on intellect and accomplishment. Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:48 AM (X8xt3) 172
Bongeno needs a little spell checking.
Memorial Day: Honoring the Fallen, Remembering the Forgetten Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:45 AM Who's going to tell him? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2026 10:48 AM (Wnv9h) 173
>>One of the (many) demonic aspects of the left is their inability to forgive anyone but themselves.
Excellent point. Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (X8xt3) 174
Yeah, the empty barrel makes the most racket. There sure is a lot noise these days. Identity politics is pure poison, and was intended that way.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (HpBvd) 175
One, good for that kid. This is the way. Two, okay fine, now when is the school trip to the Catholic Church. https://instapundit.com/799039/#disqus_thread Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (iJfKG) 176
Bongeener ain't no speler.
Posted by: Heh at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (2Ez/1) 177
It's my first wifes B-day too.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (gbGyB) 178
Lots of mythology associated with the American Civil War. Most of the post war writings were hugely agenda driven, with an eye to sanitizing events, and ass covering by participants in command.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 10:41 AM (Gqar --- The series of articles that became Battles and Leaders had an outsized role in post-war reputations. History was written by the people who wrote it. That's how there were efforts to rehabilitate some commanders while others - like Thomas - languished in obscurity. Thomas was by any measure outstanding, but he was a loyal Virginian and died soon after the war without leaving literary-minded children to advocate for him. Sherman similarly gets dissed without people understanding how innovative his operational art was. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (ZOv7s) 179
173 >>One of the (many) demonic aspects of the left is their inability to forgive anyone but themselves.
Excellent point. Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (X8xt3) Yeesss, in their minds their actions are always justified, no matter what. True believers. Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (Gqar8) 180
Good thing there was a war fought on behalf of Zionists to reopen the strait of Hormuz that was open before the war started.
Trump is a military genius. Sad!! Posted by: Le Haim at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (rjPWf) 181
Uhm, every SCOTUS decisions has political ramifications.
And while a SCOTUS decision in theory could be apolitical, they're frequently pregnant with politics. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (XV/Pl) 182
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Sherman similarly gets dissed without people understanding how innovative his operational art was. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (ZOv7s) ---- Scorched earth tactics were innovative? Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:52 AM (cWLG3) 183
178
That's how there were efforts to rehabilitate some commanders while others - like Thomas - languished in obscurity. Thomas was by any measure outstanding, but he was a loyal Virginian and died soon after the war without leaving literary-minded children to advocate for him. Sherman similarly gets dissed without people understanding how innovative his operational art was. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (ZOv7s) The South got real busy after the war, writing up their versions of what happened, and why. The North, not so much. Lee the saint, Grant the butcher is but one example. They did a very effective job in contolling the narrative. Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 10:54 AM (Gqar8) 184
177 It's my first wifes B-day too.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:50 It is my ex husband’s first wife’s birthday, too. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:55 AM (OoFl2) 185
Scorched earth tactics were innovative?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:52 AM (cWLG3) We didn't salt the earth behind us. Posted by: Sherman's starters at May 25, 2026 10:57 AM (gbGyB) 186
184 177 It's my first wifes B-day too.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:50 It is my ex husband’s first wife’s birthday, too. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:55 AM (OoFl2) LOL... Happy Birthday to her.... Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2026 10:58 AM (FtULh) 187
At the end of the day, AOC wanting to pull up here won’t end well. And she looked ridiculous behind her bullet proof glass. Baby girl is not that important.
Ps. It is still called the War of Northern Aggression. Is that tongue in cheek? Only a bit. Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:58 AM (OoFl2) 188
WE HAZ A NOOD
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (Ia/+0) 189
They keep playing the same story- that there are far more right wing attacks on left than vice versa.
THAT is the reason for the bullet proof glass. If it were them, THEY'D attack the real movers and shakers. Plus, it energizes the foot troops to go after their targets because it implies that this is a hard fought war and she's dodged bullet after bullet meant for her and so attacking or killing Trump is only in the context of the war. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (bss/y) 190
Men in command of warships at sea have never done anything stupid like running it aground or into other ships.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:02 AM (J4Dwc) 191
The ACW was - complex- in my home state of Missouri. A non seceding slave state. My ancestors all served the North. Many of their neighbors, the South.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 11:02 AM (Gqar8) 192
For everyone who came here to the beach, yuck yweather. Tropical rain everywhere, more than 5” of rain falling.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:03 AM (Wmg4n) The Morning Report — 5/ 25/26
Good morning kids. Today is of course Memorial Day, but the news does not take time off as is amply demonstrated by the lead story. Maryland man was shot and killed by U.S. Secret Service agents Saturday evening after allegedly opening fire near a White House security checkpoint, triggering a lockdown and a massive federal law enforcement response in the nation’s capital. Multiple sources identified the suspect as Nasire Best, 21, of Maryland. According to the United States Secret Service, the shooting unfolded around 6 p.m. near 17th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue NW when the suspect allegedly removed a handgun from a bag and began firing toward officers stationed near the White House perimeter. A senior administration official said Best fired approximately three shots before Secret Service agents returned fire and killed him. Authorities said the suspect never breached the White House grounds. An adult bystander was struck during the exchange of gunfire, though the person’s condition was not immediately known.Ho hun, ho hum, another potential if not probable assassination attempt on President Trump. What is this the fifth or sixth attempt already? Yes, horrendous as it is it's not necessarily the real story, which of course is the greatest existential threat to our nation that we have or will ever face, the societal/political elements within our society that seek absolute power and the complete upending of America as founded, its destruction and transmogrification into a totalitarian tyranny. The epicenter of that movement is the Democrat Party and all those who support it. Hasan Kwame Jeffries, the younger brother of House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, is a professor of history at Ohio State University. In a recent social media post, he invoked the violence of John Brown, suggesting ‘white supremacy’ should be ended “by any means necessary.” Jeffries cited John Brown, an American abolitionist known for advocating violence to end slavery. One quote from Brown that describes his philosophy states: “I am quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think vainly, flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.”In any case, and sincere apologies for that pornographic debasement as this is Memorial Day so let us remember all those who gave their llives in defense of this country and let us beg their forgiveness for allowing the cancer of the Hakeem Jeffries' in our midst to have gained positions of power and influence to the extent that the cause of freedom and the nation our loved ones gave their lives to defend and preserve is closer than ever to being lost. I can only imagine my dear uncle, for whom I was named and who was cut to ribbons by a Jap machine gun on Saipan, looking down from Heaven and weeping at how low we have sunk. Let us do what we can to ensure the sacrifices he and all who gave their lives were not in vain. God bless their memories. Have a great day, one and all.
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Any agreement written with the current Iranian regime is not worth the paper it’s written on.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:48 AM (XV/Pl) 2
>>>"If Christian values are replaced by Islamic ones, this will not be Britain any more."
If? Is this a skit? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 06:51 AM (dK+Kv) 3
1 Any agreement written with the current Iranian regime is not worth the paper it’s written on.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:48 AM (XV/Pl) Completely FARSI...cle Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 06:51 AM (x0n13) 4
Good morning horde!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 06:53 AM (ExV1e) 5
Good morning dear morons and happy birthday JJ
Our fallen soldiers, may their memory be a blessing. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (RIvkX) 6
"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"
This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down. Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person. Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (vFG9F) 7
Spencer Pratt running for LA Mayor:
Spencer Pratt’s team is power-washing stencils onto city sidewalks, creating visible messages where the cleaned sections contrast sharply with the surrounding dirt and grime. "Imagine if the streets were this clean" The only way to fully erase them? Actually clean the streets. A great reminder about infrastructure and basic maintenance in a city that is declining under long-time Democratic leadership. Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (2PamV) 8
g'mornin' again, 'rons Posted by: AltonJackson at May 25, 2026 06:57 AM (AMvSw) 9
Yonder Horde
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 06:57 AM (jehhT) 10
The first person to wish us a "happy" Memorial Day spends a night in the box.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 06:59 AM (J4Dwc) 11
"TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"
I am unfamiliar with this Yankee expression. Does it have something to do with diapers? Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:00 AM (vFG9F) 12
We gave a shit ton of drone tech to the ukrainians, why not give it to the middle eastern and gulf states? At least they can pay for it.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 07:00 AM (D1E+2) Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:01 AM (u82oZ) 14
"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"
This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down. Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person. Posted by: fd I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective. Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING. Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:02 AM (2PamV) 15
"Multiple sources identified the suspect as Nasire Best, 21, of Maryland."
---- Neighbors say he was just turning his life around and had begun attending a bible study. Posted by: Local media at May 25, 2026 07:04 AM (2Ez/1) 16
Spencer Pratt will lose by something slightly less than a landslide.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 07:04 AM (XV/Pl) 17
6 "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"
This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down. Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person. Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (vFG9F) Could've been worse. Could've been the grandmother who got out of a NYC taxi and fell down an open manhole! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 07:05 AM (x0n13) 18
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective.
Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING. Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:02 AM (2PamV) ==== You're not really livinggggggggggggggg ahhhhh! /adrenaline-junkie on the way down down down Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:05 AM (RIvkX) 19
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective. Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING. Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:02 AM (2PamV) As I get closer to my three score and ten, I find myself avoiding situations where gravity will have an adverse effect on my health and well-being. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:07 AM (HdYcL) 20
Thomas Bender
Maybe. There is something about his campaign that is winning over people. His message is spot on. The stencils were a good stunt. And money is flowing in, a sign his approach is sound. Can he beat the cheat? Otherwise ... Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:07 AM (u82oZ) 21
By now, Jug Ears (the successful Manchurian Candidate) is having breakfast and a laughing fit with his Comrade Lucifer
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & America Haters at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (HeR4S) 22
Oh and they released the sample ballot for the governors race, there are 45 candidates, the two front running democrats are listed 1, 2. The two Republican candidates are listed at 43 and 44.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (XV/Pl) 23
We observe Memorial Day.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (qFwJc) 24
Taking the time to remember those who have sacrificed everything for our liberty and freedom. May they rest in peace and may we do what we can to preserve what they left for us.
Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (XZhJa) 25
21 By now, Jug Ears (the successful Manchurian Candidate) is having breakfast and a laughing fit with his Comrade Lucifer
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & America Haters at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (HeR4S) Wait, Obama is dead?! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (x0n13) Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (u82oZ) 27
"If Christian values are replaced by Islamic ones, this will not be Britain any more."
The Red-Pilling of John Cleese" You threw it away, you twit. Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (vFG9F) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (wzUl9) Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (qFwJc) 30
>>> "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"
This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down. Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person. Posted by: fd I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective. Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING. Posted by: rickb223 >I've been to the peak of every mountain in the three surrounding mountain ranges. We never took selfies and there were no volcanoes. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 07:10 AM (D1E+2) 31
"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"
Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (vFG9F) - Lava's Leap. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:11 AM (fGGO0) 32
By now, Jug Ears (the successful Manchurian Candidate) is having breakfast and a laughing fit with his Comrade Lucifer
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & America Haters at May 25, 2026 * Wait, Obama is dead?! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 *** We were told that Lucifer was fond of going to and fro in the Earth and walking up and down in it. No doubt he could visit BHO for a morning meal now and then. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:11 AM (wzUl9) 33
I will attend the Memorial Day events at the Kansas Veterans Cemetery at 10 AM. The Democrat governor, Laura Kelly, will be there.
Afterwards, I will visit my late wife's grave. She is buried there. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:11 AM (u82oZ) 34
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective.
Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING. Posted by: rickb223 *** Not defective. SANE. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:12 AM (wzUl9) 35
23 We observe Memorial Day.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM ---- With the ultimate mattress sale of the year! By two mattresses, get one free!! Posted by: Every mattress store everywhere at May 25, 2026 07:13 AM (2Ez/1) 36
I am developing a reflexive hatred of some of these insane Democrats, with the latest being this woman who turned her back on the flag and refused to pledge. Let her live in North Korea then, but she has no business in Congress, or living in California at all.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:13 AM (78kzY) 37
"Carmen Mercedes Lineberger was indicted on May 19 on multiple charges, including two counts of theft of government money or property after she allegedly secretly transmitted confidential DOJ records to her personal email accounts while disguising the files with names"
Was one of the recipes for cooked goose? Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:14 AM (vFG9F) 38
I will attend the Memorial Day events at the Kansas Veterans Cemetery at 10 AM. The Democrat governor, Laura Kelly, will be there.
Afterwards, I will visit my late wife's grave. She is buried there. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:11 AM (u82oZ) ================== A day for reflection. I wish you a good day. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:14 AM (78kzY) 39
We observe Memorial Day.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM ---- With the ultimate mattress sale of the year! By two mattresses, get one free!! Posted by: Every mattress store everywhere at May 25, 2026 07:13 AM (2Ez/1) - That's why they call it memory foam! Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM (fGGO0) 40
Every day, I honor the men and women whose sacrifice helped keep the most amazing nation on the planet, the US of A, vibrant.
Away from the cities, there is a vast land filled with people true to our core ideals from the Declaration of Independence and especially the Constitution. I aver the Constitution, as followed, is the best system software for an advanced, high-trust, nation. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM (u82oZ) 41
@20
>>Can he beat the cheat? Otherwise ... Newsome was really unpopular, he won the recall in a landslide. Bass is unpopular, not only is she unpopular, she’s a patently absurd retard to boot. And since LA elections are fake and gay, she will more than likely win in a walk. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM (XV/Pl) 42
Everyone should have a MEANINGFUL Memorial Day.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:16 AM (fGGO0) 43
Good morning JJ and horde
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:16 AM (Ia/+0) Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:16 AM (u82oZ) 45
I aver the Constitution, as followed, is the best system software for an advanced, high-trust, nation.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM (u82oZ) - "High trust." There's your problem right there! Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:17 AM (fGGO0) 46
That's why they call it memory foam!
Posted by: Biden's Dog at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM +++ I put memory foam insoles in my shoes so when I walk into a room I'll remember why. Didn't work. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:17 AM (2Ez/1) 47
Starting on refurbishing the spreadsheet of Delilah's show career. I thought it was complete, but there were two early shows in Florida that were missing (she walked in both of them). Delilah didn't rack up the record that her illustrious grandmother Lacey did, but she missed the last five months of 2019 because of Her Majesty's knee surgery (I showed her a few times to no good effect), a good chunk of 2020 due to WuFlu leading to show cancellations, and almost all of 2020 because of maternal duties, important as they were. Bittersweet memories. Luckily, her daughter Diana is at the same spot in the hot/crazy matrix as she was. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:19 AM (HdYcL) 48
Reading a few takes on the latest White House ground shooter, I am not so sure its a assassination attempt as much as a mental illness case throwing his anger at the White House in general.
Not a person, just authority Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:19 AM (Ia/+0) 49
Isaacman is not willing or able to do this, however. He might want to (though nothing he has said suggests he does) but even if he did Congress will not let him. It wants NASA funded to keep those pork-laden unproductive jobs alive in their numerous congressional districts.
====================== No doubt this is the educated, intelligent view. But I have an irrational faith Isaacman will do plenty more than just rearrange the deck chairs on a sinking ship, assuming we can continue to win elections and he has the time. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (oVIfx) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (HdYcL) 51
Spencer Pratt will lose by something slightly less than a landslide.
Posted by: Thomas Bender This IS LA's chance to change for the better. If they reject Pratt, then they WANT whatever comes next. And not only will I not shed a tear, I will point and laugh. Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (2PamV) 52
Thomas Bender
Noted. This is a choice election. Either start recovering from excellent bad policy execution, or have an entire city jump into a wildfire volcano. A "win" by Bass would be unrecoverable. The people that can help the city, those that are left, will leave. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (u82oZ) 53
Love the pic JJ. Brings back memories of visiting Arlington National Cemetery and the American Military Cemeteries in Luxembourg, Normandy and Lorraine, France. Very inspiring and humbling to walk those hallowed grounds.
Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (sOgXJ) 54
Reading a few takes on the latest White House ground shooter, I am not so sure its a assassination attempt as much as a mental illness case throwing his anger at the White House in general. Not a person, just authority Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:19 AM (Ia/+0) He served his purpose: normalizing assassination attempts against Trump. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:21 AM (HdYcL) 55
That's why they call it memory foam!
Posted by: Biden's Dog at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM +++ I put memory foam insoles in my shoes so when I walk into a room I'll remember why. Didn't work. Posted by: Quarter Twenty Did you wear the right shoes? Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (2PamV) 56
He served his purpose: normalizing assassination attempts against Trump.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:21 AM (HdYcL) The left won't be satisfied until some nutjob takes out President Trump. Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (sOgXJ) 57
The ONT's bicentennial Coke.Commercial really showed me what this country has lost.
Thank you, Ted Kennedy, for all that you've destroyed. Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (/3YYe) 58
>>>"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"
She went down, down, down in a burning ring of fire. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (dK+Kv) 59
"TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"
I am unfamiliar with this Yankee expression. Does it have something to do with diapers? Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:00 AM (vFG9F) Just consider her a sub-literate idiot, then you won't go far wrong when talking about her. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (1Ff7Z) 60
Prayer for the families of those that have died to keep Americans safe and sound.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:23 AM (/+uur) Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:23 AM (2Ez/1) 62
Ethanol-free gas is still available in my area. $4.30 at one station, $4.25 at another. The Exxon convenience store I go to has what they say is ethnaol-free, amazingly, at .20 *less* than their $3.89 87 E10. I don't know if they are simply forgetting to jack up the price, or if the stuff in their tanks is old, or if it really has ethanol in it. I'm not sure I'm seeing *much* better mileage on it now, as compared to a year ago . . . but it's .20 less, so I buy it.
I need to try a full tank of this stuff, drive to near empty, and try a full tank of the $4.30 (*wince*), to compare. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:24 AM (wzUl9) 63
The UK has always been based at the deepest level on Christian values, regardless of dogma. Despite the many mistakes made by churches, for centuries British people have been influenced by Christ’s teaching. If these values are replaced by Islamic ones, this will not be Britain any more.
==================== I'm curious why Cleese uses a future tense and not a past tense. England, and all of Britain, appears to us, outsiders, as already gone. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:25 AM (zG/eu) 64
Quarter Twenty
Some people want to Rule over a burnt out trash heap. We call them many names, like the Left, Communists, Democrats, losers. But they work very hard to rule over others. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:25 AM (u82oZ) 65
Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. A well-run, prosperous city, bustling with human industry, would be profoundly unsettling. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:25 AM (HdYcL) 66
Fvck off troll
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:25 AM (RIvkX) 67
Reading a few takes on the latest White House ground shooter, I am not so sure its a assassination attempt as much as a mental illness case throwing his anger at the White House in general.
Not a person, just authority Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:19 AM (Ia/+0) - Willowed from ONT: The Weekend White House shooter left behind a few hints on his Twitter account: https://tinyurl.com/3ec2pua6 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:26 AM (XyZGq) 68
@52
>>A "win" by Bass would be unrecoverable. The people that can help the city, those that are left, will leave. I would say this is a last chance election for Ca, if hoyer, swallowswell or porter win and bass wins in la, then that giant sucking sound you hear is the vortex created as people flee the state in droves. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 07:26 AM (XV/Pl) 69
The left won't be satisfied until some nutjob takes out President Trump. Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (sOgXJ) They won't be satisfied even then. You think when Trump goes away that everything will return to normal? Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (HdYcL) 70
It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (/+uur) 71
53 Love the pic JJ. Brings back memories of visiting Arlington National Cemetery and the American Military Cemeteries in Luxembourg, Normandy and Lorraine, France. Very inspiring and humbling to walk those hallowed grounds.
Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (sOgXJ) That's my uncle's tombstone at Rock Island Nat'l Cemetery. I visited Arlington as it opened on a very quiet autumn Sunday morning. Truly humbling, beautiful and emotional and unforgettable. Was all alone as I strolled the grounds. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (x0n13) 72
Hadrian, my Siberians have never been show cats, though sometimes their grand-sires or grand-dams have been. Little Dagny Sophia the Aloof's mother, Sofia, was considered good enough to breed (and Dagny looks like her clone), but I'm not sure she was ever shown.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (wzUl9) 73
Remembering some family members and an excellent boss today.
Posted by: RandomDave at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (aJQbY) 74
Troll about to regale us with his tales of heroism from Khe Sanh and Da Nang.
We are all so very impressed you fag. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM (RIvkX) 75
Huck Follywood
My major professor in grad school left the UK in 1990. He saw all of this coming down the road. And acted on it. The smart ones are gone. Out-migration from the UK is now including businessmen, scientists, tech workers, and more. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM (u82oZ) 76
Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. . . .
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 *** I see those conditions every day, including outside my door. Your description is truly apt. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:29 AM (wzUl9) 77
Ages ago, my parents took us kids to Arlington on Memorial Day. We were in a throng of visitors at the Tomb of the Unknown for a changing of the guard. It was hard to see through the crowd, but I remember how quiet it was. And hot.
I think there are some old photos of that trip around here. Living near the capitol city back in the 60's and 70's was a different world. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 07:29 AM (jehhT) 78
From the dictionary: To regale means to entertain or delight someone with stories or a lavish feast.
---- So there will be food? Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:29 AM (2Ez/1) 79
"They won't be satisfied even then. You think when Trump goes away that everything will return to normal?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh" It would be an excuse to ramp up, by both sides. Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:31 AM (vFG9F) 80
I need to try a full tank of this stuff, drive to near empty, and try a full tank of the $4.30 (*wince*), to compare.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:24 AM (wzUl9) I think a tank of Shell Super is the cheapest tuneup ever. My last 2 trucks would send the Check Eng light about every 15 to 20k miles. I think from the water gathered by the ethanol. Stupid idea to put a hydrophilic substance in your fuel system. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:32 AM (/+uur) 81
The smart ones are gone. Out-migration from the UK is now including businessmen, scientists, tech workers, and more.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM (u82oZ) Mr. H and Friends ought to be thinking about this. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 07:32 AM (1Ff7Z) 82
One Memorial Day, I visited my Great Uncle's grave in Arlington Cemetery. Very humbling. Hated to see the family name on a tombstone. My wife was respectful, as well.
He survived being a crew chief for a B-25 named for him (---'s Demon) in New Guinea in WWII, to go on to maintaining B-29 engines in Tinian. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:32 AM (u82oZ) 83
"Regale" means to blow twice.
Posted by: Camela at May 25, 2026 07:33 AM (vFG9F) 84
"Criminals might be victims of circumstance in the sense that few of them ever had a fair chance; but it was a mistake to forget the only 'fair chance' they wanted was a chance for easy money." - James Gould Cozzens, The Just and the Unjust, 1942 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:33 AM (HdYcL) 85
But — and this is a big one — don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Or to paraphrase Joe Biden: Don’t compare Trump to the Almighty. Compare him to the alternative. Wherever you look in the Democratic Party, the alternative is horrendous. ======================= Miranda Devine lays out the weak-kneed GOP, but she (and we) can do little to buck up the terrible GOP Senate caucus. What a bunch of fearful little-minded scum, led by an ass. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (zG/eu) 86
Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. . . .
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 *** I see those conditions every day, including outside my door. Your description is truly apt. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:29 AM (wzUl9) --- When it's all you've ever known, you just accept it as normal. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (gnNyN) 87
This Is No Way To Fix The Housing Shortage
Getting rid of 30M illegals would be a better start than anything else the government could do, either demonizing corporate involvement or praising it. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (ExV1e) 88
I'd love to do some more hiking in Colorado or New Mexico, or to visit Utah and northern Arizona for the same. But I'm not going to take any chances with cliff edges or canyon rims. And if I visit a volcano, it had better be one which has been extinct for eons.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (wzUl9) 89
No one in right mind can think with a hand gun starting outside the White House gate is going to get far past that
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:35 AM (Ia/+0) 90
Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. . . .
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 *** I see those conditions every day, including outside my door. Your description is truly apt. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 --- When it's all you've ever known, you just accept it as normal. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 25, 2026 *** It seems most of the denizens of this pesthole accept all the decay. I never have. Which is part of why I have *never* felt at home here. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:36 AM (wzUl9) 91
I'd love to do some more hiking in Colorado or New Mexico, or to visit Utah and northern Arizona for the same. But I'm not going to take any chances with cliff edges or canyon rims. And if I visit a volcano, it had better be one which has been extinct for eons.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (wzUl9) All you have to do is watch where y Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 07:36 AM (1Ff7Z) 92
I do think the Cultural Marxists Propaganda Ministry has put out assassination isn't out of the question
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:36 AM (Ia/+0) 93
And if I visit a volcano, it had better be one which has been extinct for eons.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (wzUl9) We hiked Mt. Saint Helens years ago. Standing at the rim was awesome . . . and spooky. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 07:37 AM (dK+Kv) 94
The smart ones are gone. Out-migration from the UK is now including businessmen, scientists, tech workers, and more. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM (u82oZ) We keep hearing about Americans who are leaving the country for Europe, but who are they? Childless retirees, single AWFLs, recent humanities grads, celebs. In short, deadweight looking for bennies. For every one of them, there's at least one European looking to come here to escape the stultifying, overregulated, mingy life there. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:38 AM (HdYcL) 95
I think a tank of Shell Super is the cheapest tuneup ever.
My last 2 trucks would send the Check Eng light about every 15 to 20k miles. I think from the water gathered by the ethanol. Stupid idea to put a hydrophilic substance in your fuel system. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 *** It has a small value in cold climates, in that it isolates the water and avoids your fuel lines freezing up. There used to be a product, Heet! I think, which you were supposed to add to your tank for the same purpose. Now the fuel does it. But it's still a crazy idea. My Buick got 34 mpg on the open road with Buc-ees E0 in it last September. I saw more like 29-30 with Shell E10 during my Kansas trip. There was a chain of fuel stations in KS that was offering their *premium* at .30 less than their regular. I used it and got awful mileage. I wrote to the KS Dept. of Agriculture, and they found that the stations were selling 20% ethanol in that fuel and not labeling it as such. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:41 AM (wzUl9) 96
Skip
We have seen this playbook before, with the attacks in Europe, the US, and Russia on leaders by anarchists in the 1880s to 1914s. One example was the assassination of Tzar Alexander II in 1881. Queen Victoria survived 6 assassination attempts. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:41 AM (u82oZ) 97
As the largest Starship EVER, V3 is a MAJOR evolutionary upgrade from V2, focused on higher performance, reliability, and FULL reusability
=================== As huge as V3 is, with 100 ton capacity, it is still only half as big as the planned operational capacity of 200 tons. SpaceX will get there too, no doubt. The company is one of the most incredible stories of our modern life. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:42 AM (fVNxJ) 98
I heard Band of Brothers is playing in its entirety on one of the nets today. I hope I have some time to see some of it.
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & America Haters at May 25, 2026 07:43 AM (HeR4S) 99
Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Wow. What gas station chain was that? I'd like to avoid it. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:43 AM (u82oZ) 100
"TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"
Did anyone explain to her what would be likely to happen to any northerners who "pulled up"? Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 07:44 AM (ExV1e) 101
I think a tank of Shell Super is the cheapest tuneup ever. My last 2 trucks would send the Check Eng light about every 15 to 20k miles. I think from the water gathered by the ethanol. Stupid idea to put a hydrophilic substance in your fuel system. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 Agreed, but driving gets the gas turned over fairly frequently, so it doesn't have time to decay. It's death on small engines, which sit around doing nothing for long periods of time. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:45 AM (HdYcL) 102
Hadrian the Seventh
Very few start-ups are successful in the EU since 1990. Too many rules. Singapore and especially the US is where most of those great ideas turn into successful companies. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:46 AM (u82oZ) 103
>"TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"
---- what is she talking about Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 07:47 AM (ZxPkt) 104
Actually in middle of a historical assassination recreation movie
Anthropod, 2016 movie on assassination of Reinhard Heydrich during WWII. Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:47 AM (Ia/+0) 105
Is the sixth year of drought the result of “the enemy’s economic conspiracy”? No, it is the result both of the hotter temperatures due to global warming, that cause evaporation of the water in Iran’s lakes, and of the leaks in the pipes that were put in decades ago and that the government, spending so much of its time and money on its nuclear program and ballistic missile manufacturing, has failed to replace.
GlowBull Warmering is not real. Never been real. CO2 in the upper atmosphere has cooled. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:48 AM (/+uur) 106
On March 1, 1954, four Puerto Rican nationalists, seeking to promote Puerto Rican independence from the United States, attacked the United States Capitol. They fired 30 rounds from semi-automatic pistols onto the legislative floor from the Ladies' Gallery (a balcony for visitors) of the House of Representatives chamber within the United States Capitol.
Wounded were Alvin Morell Bentley (R-Michigan), who took a bullet to the chest, Clifford Davis (D-Tennessee), hit in the leg, Ben F. Jensen (R-Iowa), shot in the back, as well as George Hyde Fallon (D-Maryland) and Kenneth A. Roberts (D-Alabama). House pages helped carry Bentley off the House floor.The representatives were treated and recovered. No one ever seems to remember or talk about this. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:48 AM (2Ez/1) 107
Very few start-ups are successful in the EU since 1990. The market cap of the 50 most successful EU startups in the last 50 years is smaller than that of Home Depot. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:50 AM (HdYcL) 108
Tillis goes whining to CNN and reveals who he really is:
An unstable liberal who hates conservatives. That that nasty POS called himself a Republican is scary in that, just how many more are like him? The temper tantrum these RINOs are throwing makes a red-faced toddler look dignified. You losers had a very good deal: Pass the SAVE Act and Trump would save Cornyn. You choose to play games and lie-- Trump didn't do this, you did Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 07:50 AM (73/SM) 109
I cannot figure out why Ro Khanna is always on my TV screen. Wtf?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:51 AM (RIvkX) 110
104 Actually in middle of a historical assassination recreation movie
Anthropod, 2016 movie on assassination of Reinhard Heydrich during WWII. Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:47 AM (Ia/+0) Hitler had the entire town of Lidice annihilated as revenge. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 07:51 AM (x0n13) 111
Quarter Twenty
Independence for Puerto Rico sounds like a good idea now. Maybe they can merge with Cuba, once the communists are gone. I can't remember this, because it was before I was born. My parents were living in Puerto Rico at the time, but they never talked about that. I did read about it, as an adult. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:52 AM (u82oZ) 112
109 I cannot figure out why Ro Khanna is always on my TV screen. Wtf?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:51 AM #### Sitting right here, boss. Posted by: The OFF button at May 25, 2026 07:53 AM (2Ez/1) Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:53 AM (u82oZ) 114
Chevron put up signs at its California stations, telling consumers that California has the highest gas prices in America because Sacramento Democrats require it, by way of the highest taxes and regulatory burden in the country.
Newsom responded by calling for a boycott of Chevron, previously known as Standard Oil of California. California is the largest importer of foreign gasoline in the country, and yet voters keep electing Democrats like Newscum. Phillips 66 terminated operations at its Los Angeles-area refinery in the fourth quarter of 2025. Chevron moved its headquarters to Texas, citing high taxes and burdensome regulations. Valero Energy Corporation, which announced plans to close its Benicia oil refinery (located just northeast of San Francisco, in 2026), has just been fined for “air quality violations” to the tune of $3.25 million Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:54 AM (/fjf1) 115
Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. . . .
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 Look at their families and relationships. Broken, ruined, and miserable. Look at their schools. Broken, ruined, and miserable. The great promise that "when we are in charge..." has never ever ever even come close to being true. Yet, it has been Sold my entire lifetime that when a woman or a black or a hispanic or a ... is in power things will get better. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (/+uur) 116
The whole Paxton/Cornyn/SAVE Act/Thune/ endorsement psychodrama is positively sickening.
My hatred for the Republicans is only a scintilla less than my hatred for the Democrats. Our national leadership is craven, diluted, and self-serving. They disgust me. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (RIvkX) 117
We keep hearing about Americans who are leaving the country for Europe, but who are they? Childless retirees, single AWFLs, recent humanities grads, celebs. In short, deadweight looking for bennies.
Childless retirees - receiving benefits single AWFLs - probably receiving benefits recent humanities grads - idiots celebs - the wealthy So, folks who either don't need to care about Europe's economic system or aren't bright enough to know that they do. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (ExV1e) 118
Morning, y'all...
"This Is No Way To Fix The Housing Shortage" What "housing shortage"? Oh, they mean "free houses n' shiite"... Heh. Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 07:56 AM (XuXeR) 119
"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"
She went down, down, down in a burning ring of fire. So cool! Is there a video link? Man, I could watch that all day. Awesome! I wonder if she bounced down or flew the whole way? So cool! Posted by: Smooth Brained Malleable American In The Digital Age at May 25, 2026 07:56 AM (OoF9t) 120
Where my EBT card at?
Posted by: La'Tanya at May 25, 2026 07:56 AM (2Ez/1) 121
The great promise that "when we are in charge..." has never ever ever even come close to being true. Yet, it has been Sold my entire lifetime that when a woman or a black or a hispanic or a ... is in power things will get better.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (/+uur) ====== Kill the Boer! -government of South Africa Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:57 AM (RIvkX) 122
San Franpsycho
I agree wholeheartedly. I wrote my Federal Senator the Italians and French fought harder and more effectively in WWII than the GOPe. And other stuff to motivate him. I was rebuked by my then County GOP leader. I left the GOP after that. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:57 AM (u82oZ) 123
Pull Up
To reprimand or scold someone for something they did wrong. So AoC has a claim that there is something the South does wrong and that the North has the position of Authority or Righteousness. Sweep your own front porch lady. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:57 AM (/+uur) 124
"TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"
---- what is she talking about Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 07:47 AM (ZxPkt) Apparently, "pull up" is ghetto yoot for fight. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 07:58 AM (ExV1e) 125
SanFranpsycho, my hatred for the Republicans is higher than for the dems. The republicans are supposed to be the ones fighting for American values.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2026 07:59 AM (5P5DO) 126
But it really is amazing how these RINOs think over and over, joining with the Dems will hurt Trump.
From when they called for him to resign over the pussy tape ... To when near 50 of them resigned to hand the House to the Dems ... To when they conspired with the Dems to let the baseless investigators proceed ... To all the bills they've killed to stall Trump's agenda .... And stopping his nominees .... To Massie, Cassidy and Cornyn .... Over and over, as they stab themselves, they get ever more sure the next stab will hurt Trump. Voodoo Republicans--stabbing themselves to injure Trump Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 07:59 AM (73/SM) 127
>>>We hiked Mt. Saint Helens years ago. Standing at the rim was awesome . . . and spooky.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon >I remember when it blew and trashed the whole northwest. On the bright side, the ash cleaned our streets. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 08:00 AM (D1E+2) 128
{{{Ben Had}}}
🎼 ♭ 5/4 ♫♫ ♫♫ Good morning! ♬♬ ♩ ♪ As long as we have strong Americans like you, we can survive as a civilization. You exemplify the very best in America. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:01 AM (u82oZ) Posted by: Washington Nearsider, preparing for The Reckoning at May 25, 2026 08:01 AM (oSeBJ) Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:02 AM (/+uur) 131
SanFranpsycho, my hatred for the Republicans is higher than for the dems. The republicans are supposed to be the ones fighting for American values.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2026 07:59 AM (5P5DO) ===== Things seemed different 50 years ago, but then again, they were different. The faces and names may change, yet the policy remains the same. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:02 AM (RIvkX) 132
Denis Miranda.
KIA. 21 Sep 2010. SEAL. Warrior. Friend. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, preparing for The Reckoning at May 25, 2026 08:01 AM (oSeBJ) ===== Thank you. May his memory be a blessing. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:03 AM (RIvkX) 133
NaCly, dearest . You served this Country with honor and your commitment to preserving freedom is what keeps us fighting.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2026 08:04 AM (5P5DO) 134
Mitch McConnell reportedly said, “So the nation’s top law enforcement official is asking for a slush fund to pay people who assault cops? Utterly stupid, morally wrong — Take your pick.”
Mitch hasn't said a complete sentence in years. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:05 AM (/+uur) 135
Thank you. May his memory be a blessing.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:03 AM (RIvkX) We fought together. I think of him every day. Today, I'm telling my kids about him. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, preparing for The Reckoning at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (oSeBJ) 136
The fact that Thune remains tells me that all the other GOPe Senators are okay with it.
Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (ZxPkt) 137
They disgust me.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (RIvkX) Push past it to enraged and vengeful. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (dK+Kv) Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (u82oZ) 139
I disagree. Any RINO is still 50 times better than a Dem/Marxist
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (YCxFk) 140
Kill the Boer! -government of South Africa Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:57 AM (RIvkX) _____________ There was a short video of a South African farmer, a younger fellow, who had moved here and bought land. He was so relieved and grateful that he could walk and work without the dread of being murdered. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 08:07 AM (HdYcL) 141
Salute to your hero Uncle JJ. Late Father saw heavy combat in Korea. Happy Memorial Day all!
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:07 AM (YCxFk) Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 08:07 AM (XuXeR) 143
Hadrian the Seventh
Western Kansas is getting a lot of those South African farming families. They are welcome to come here. We need their strength. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:08 AM (u82oZ) 144
Pilot, Naval Officer, Blogger, Inspiration.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (u82oZ) Fair winds and following seas. Posted by: Washington Nearsider, preparing for The Reckoning at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (oSeBJ) 145
Sad. Thought Drew Carey was one of the good guys in HWood. Former Marine. He flipped and is Supporting Bass for Mayor, and chewed out Pratt. Sell out
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (YCxFk) 146
Trying to decide if the town Memorial Day parade is a go or not, quite overcast, drizzling a bit
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (Ia/+0) 147
Good morning Horde thx JJ. May Memorial Day be a good bday for Americans and the memory of those who gave all.
I've been trying to keep you all up on the creeping communism in my County . Our county executive and assemblywoman a Dem Socialist are now asking the state to allow for a millionaires surcharge in this county. I'm sure the language will mean they tax lower earners "if needed" Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (hpwtA) 148
The fact that Thune remains tells me that all the other GOPe Senators are okay with it.
Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (ZxPkt) At least 26 others. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 08:11 AM (ExV1e) 149
I noted this weekend that almost all of the online accounts which saying on Saturday night that there was going to be a deal, guaranteed, were saying on Sunday that now there would be no deal after all.
It’s obvious that none of them know jack shit about what will or will not happen. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:11 AM (ykvlb) 150
Jonah earns a night in the box
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 08:14 AM (J4Dwc) 151
Found this article on my grand Uncle:
This weekend is set aside to remember those who served our country in the military and those who came before us and are no longer with us. In this post I would like to remember my uncle Erwin Schilling. He married my dad’s oldest sister in 1948, after World War II. He was born in 1918 and raised in Smithton, IL in St. Clair County, near Belleville. His father was a house painter and had a difficult time providing for his family due to alcoholism. Erwin was working as a rural mail carrier when he decided to enlist in the Navy, reporting for duty on July 4, 1939 in St. Louis. Most of his pay went home to provide for his parents and siblings. He even bought them a small house to live in. Once at sea he made a little extra money as a steward for the officer’s mess, which also was sent home. He was that kind of son and brother. The first destroyer he served on, patrolled the Gulf of Mexico and East Coast. Part of their mission was to act as the eyes and ears for the British Navy, who were at war with Germany and Japan at that time (1940). They were tracking German shipping in the Gulf and reporting back to the Brits. At that time Germany w Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 25, 2026 08:14 AM (WQDw6) 152
Thank you, J.J., for a harsh dose of reality and "the costs of war"
Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 08:15 AM (q7IhF) 153
Crap, too big.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 25, 2026 08:16 AM (WQDw6) 154
I noted this weekend that almost all of the online accounts which saying on Saturday night that there was going to be a deal, guaranteed, were saying on Sunday that now there would be no deal after all.
It’s obvious that none of them know jack shit about what will or will not happen. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:11 AM (ykvlb) And online commentary will be filled with people bemoaning they things they learned from people who know jack shit. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 08:16 AM (ExV1e) 155
Royal Farms had E0 and E10 within the usual 5¢. Then, one morning, E0 was 5.45$, a dollar more than E10.
Posted by: Accomack at May 25, 2026 08:20 AM (a9Uqu) 156
Pratt will definitely get a solid majority of the votes from people who actually vote. The harsh reality is the question - is the support of actual voters enough to win an election in California anymore?
We're about to find out. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:20 AM (ykvlb) 157
The fact that Thune remains tells me that all the other GOPe Senators are okay with it.
--- Cruz says there were at least 20 Republican Senators ready to vote with the Dems in that meeting. 1) he doesn't say what he--or any of them--did to support Trump there 2) he doesn't name names 3) from the further reports, it's implied he meant this as a warning to Trump to abandon the compensation fund-- not a warning to liberal Republicans 2027 redistricting under Callis needs to be called " The Great RINO Hunt"* Move them into Dem districts. Or, like TX did getting rid of Crenshaw, make their district more conservative. * yes I know it won't affect the Senate. But it does kill the RINO farm team Are they any actual conservative Republican Senators? Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:20 AM (73/SM) 158
Back in 1963, while my father was in VietNam, I lived with my grandmother up in the "Slate Belt" of Pennsylvania.
Every Memorial Day a man in a uniform would fly in on a helicopter and lay a wreath on a grave in a local cementary and leave as fast as he arrived.. I've wondered for years how long that went on. Posted by: SMOD at May 25, 2026 08:21 AM (O7XEN) 159
Hate RINO's as much as anyone, but each one iss till better than any Dem in congress right now.
At least Murk, Collins, and Tillis vote to confirm Conservative Judges Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:23 AM (YCxFk) 160
145 Sad. Thought Drew Carey was one of the good guys in HWood. Former Marine. He flipped and is Supporting Bass for Mayor, and chewed out Pratt. Sell out
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (YCxFk) ---‐- You would think wuth the marine training and more than enough FU money, he wouldn't give a d*** about pleasing anybody. Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 08:23 AM (l9lDf) 161
158. WOW!
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:23 AM (YCxFk) 162
Ich bin ein Treuful Hund!
As a 5th Marine I had 2 weeks in l which I got 16 hours sleep; twice! Can not imagine months! I thank those who went before. Trien my best to honor them! Japs were hard! Weighed 195 when got to Nam. Looked in mirror t Da n\Nang Naval Hospital. Ribs out like a polish death camp Aushwitz! Got a scle; only 145! Corps (hey GWB its like an apple core! Shit head!) guarntees 6 meals a week in "Indian Country".. I got 6 meals a week; along with my 1 hour a day sleep! Have had "Riffle ear" 56 years.. BUT I LIVE! Posted by: Ol exJarhead GRUNT at May 25, 2026 08:24 AM (XH/+O) 163
Bath for Dutchess today. She has a vet appointment tomorrow. The poor thing has epilepsy and I have had to administer phenobarbital and potassium bromide to her for the last 9+ years. Every year she has to go in for an assessment before getting her prescription renewed and this is the time. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 08:24 AM (HdYcL) 164
6 year terms in the Senate are the albatross. We dodged a bullet by dumping Cassidy in La. McCain perfected it. Liberal for 5 years, conservative the year of Re-election
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:25 AM (YCxFk) 165
* yes I know it won't affect the Senate. But it does kill the RINO farm team Are they any actual conservative Republican Senators? Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:20 AM (73/SM) It’s unfair to fault Cruz for telling the Truth - I absolutely believe there were 20 GOP Senators willing to vote with the Dem’s in this. I and others have long noted that there are at best only about 30 conservative Senators., Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:25 AM (ykvlb) 166
163. Good luck Hadrian
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:26 AM (YCxFk) 167
"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday" She fell down a volcano, so I assume she isn't inside. I saw a brief thing recently about people calling themselves something like "volcanauts" that climb down into live volcanos. So, now you can not only fall but get fried for your thrills. Yay. I think climbing up and into volcanos isn't the smartest thing you could do. That said- I climbed My Fuji buuuut at the same time so were folks 10-80 years old. I think the risk there was minimal. Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 08:28 AM (iJfKG) 168
Tough when a quality Senator like Blackburne in Tenn, leaves to run for Governor. She had more balls than most GOP men in Senate
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:28 AM (YCxFk) 169
The Pratt team are out circling potholes on the roads and tagging them "vote for Pratt".
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 25, 2026 08:29 AM (7T8ei) 170
Anybody who votes for Bass or Raman are either stupid or in on the grift. Always thought Drew Carey had a functioning brain, guess I was wrong.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 08:29 AM (hpwtA) 171
AZ sees 400k removed from SNAP as ineligible.
That near 47%, they say. Due to the new work requirements-- they claim. That's the one and only reason given. Here's a real clue: "Charisma Garcia, a 25-year-old mother of two, ... ages 3 and 6 ..." See if you can spot the real reason she can't get food stamps. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:30 AM (73/SM) Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:31 AM (u82oZ) 173
good morning JJ, Horde
The honored dead, RIP. And thank you. Saying "Happy Memorial Day" doesn't seem right, as it's a solemn occasion. But the honored dead don't begrudge us our spending time with family, friends, and neighbors today. Posted by: callsign claymore at May 25, 2026 08:31 AM (/6r4m) 174
Captain Carroll LeFon, USN. AKA Neptunus Lex.
Pilot, Naval Officer, Blogger, Inspiration. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (u82oZ) ===== May his memory be a blessing. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:32 AM (RIvkX) 175
> Hate RINO's as much as anyone, but each one iss till better than any Dem in congress right now.
--------- They're Democrats with a different lapel pin and are a bit more circumspect about their hate for the normals. Other than that, they are exactly the same. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 08:32 AM (jehhT) 176
One of the reasons I think Dems don't like AI is that they are realizing that Al will make it much more difficult to engage in fraud. The Biden administration might have been the largest fraud in history but it may be one of the last as well
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 08:33 AM (hpwtA) 177
81 The smart ones are gone. Out-migration from the UK is now including businessmen, scientists, tech workers, and more.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM --‐-- The only explanation for destroying a great country is that these countys' leaders are pure evil. At least that explains it for me. Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 08:33 AM (v71Ni) 178
168 Tough when a quality Senator like Blackburne in Tenn, leaves to run for Governor. She had more balls than most GOP men in Senate Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:28 AM (YCxFk) Yeah, and Tuberville is leaving to be Governor of Alabama. I understand, for people who want to achieve things, Governor is a lot better job than Senator. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:34 AM (ykvlb) 179
Sad. Thought Drew Carey was one of the good guys in HWood. Former Marine. He flipped and is Supporting Bass for Mayor, and chewed out Pratt. Sell out
--- Suggests why he's so awful, awkward and wooden as the host--he hates the dirty, conservative, Americans he thinks they all are. Bob looked like he really enjoyed the guests. Even if he was faking it. Drew can't even fake it. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:34 AM (73/SM) 180
According to the Renewable Fuel Association, a pro-biofuels trade group, roughly one-third of the corn grown in the U.S. is destined for gas tanks. Last year alone, the group said, ethanol refiners purchased $23 billion in American corn. On top of this, nearly half the soybean oil produced in the U.S. gets converted into biodiesel. Combined, the ethanol and biodiesel industries had revenues of nearly $50 billion in 2024.
Burning corn in leased SUVs to drive children to soccer games that do not have scores so that brown and black children in the ROW starve is no way to run an energy economy. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:36 AM (/+uur) 181
And to give credit where it is due... the Google icon this morning is a folded flag.
I nearly dropped my coffee upon seeing that. Well done, Google. Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 08:37 AM (XuXeR) 182
Looking at California and Michigan and other states, it is hard to see what other evidence people need. If you look at any time series, when the democrats are in charge, the economy is worse, freedoms are restricted, and people are in worse shape. Every time. The only time this was not clear was in the late nineties, when Clinton was in office but was being pushed by Gingrich into policies the democrats did not want implemented.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 25, 2026 08:38 AM (0U5gm) 183
At least Murk, Collins, and Tillis vote to confirm Conservative Judges
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:23 AM (YCxFk) ===== Ketanji Brown-Jackson or Amy Coney-Barret? Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:39 AM (RIvkX) 184
One of the reasons I think Dems don't like AI is that they are realizing that Al will make it much more difficult to engage in fraud. The Biden administration might have been the largest fraud in history but it may be one of the last as well
--- There was a long post on voter registration fraud that went through how the serial was impossible. But that to discover them, you had to sort lots of data. This is the real reason blue states are fighting so hard to conceal their voter rolls: It's not purging the improper voters-- it's exposing how they are added and laundered in. Recall in GA, citizens were removing voters and finding back on the roll days later. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:40 AM (73/SM) 185
I raised the United States Flag at dawn. Now drinking coffee in the safety and security I have due to all our servicemen and women over the past 250 years, and especially due to those who gave their last full measure of devotion to the United States of America and it citizens. I humbly thank all of them.
Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 08:41 AM (5rh/l) 186
THANK YOU! TO ALL VETERANS NEAR AND FAR.
THANK YOU for the life I have been able to live due to your service and sacrifices. God Bless Posted by: sidney at May 25, 2026 08:42 AM (rzwGB) 187
It’s unfair to fault Cruz for telling the Truth - I absolutely believe there were 20 GOP Senators willing to vote with the Dem’s in this. I and others have long noted that there are at best only about 30 conservative Senators.,
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:25 AM (ykvlb) ===== Make. Them. Vote. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:42 AM (RIvkX) 188
Carey is a fag.
Posted by: The Ghost of Gene Rayburn at May 25, 2026 08:43 AM (vFG9F) 189
185,
Well said. Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 08:43 AM (XuXeR) 190
>>Saying "Happy Memorial Day" doesn't seem right, as it's a solemn occasion. But the honored dead don't begrudge us our spending time with family, friends, and neighbors today.
Yep https://tinyurl.com/mrewdx6h Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 08:44 AM (J4Dwc) 191
Nasire Best was an aspiring rapper, and astronaut. He was turning his life around. Always had a big smile for everyone. He dindu nuthin.
Posted by: Delurker at May 25, 2026 08:45 AM (gtcuf) 192
Light rain is ever so slowing clearing out, don't see anything different on the town Facebook page. Guess I could take a ride and see if ceremony is a go
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 08:45 AM (Ia/+0) 193
. Combined, the ethanol and biodiesel industries had revenues of nearly $50 billion in 2024.
Burning corn in leased SUVs to drive children to soccer games that do not have scores so that brown and black children in the ROW starve is no way to run an energy economy. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:36 AM (/+uur) ------ And ethanol is 33% less energy dense than gasoline. Sure Senator Grassley (R-corn state) puts out scathing reports, but what does it cost the country to keep him in office? Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 08:47 AM (UeLv+) 194
Greetings and good morning one and all.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 25, 2026 08:47 AM (/k3in) 195
Yesterday was really good. Rode with Dad all day as we visited the family cemeteries. Talked about family.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 08:48 AM (bss/y) 196
Host Kristen Welker said, “Some of your supporters were chanting, president, president, as you delivered your speech on Tuesday night. Are you considering a run for president in 2028?”
hahaha Masshoe Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:48 AM (/+uur) 197
And in memory of my father, US Navy, and my uncle, US Air Force.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 25, 2026 08:49 AM (0U5gm) 198
Have a day of reflection, everyone.
We are blessed by the sacrifices of those who served our country. Need to make preps for my attendance at a Memorial Day event. Afterwards, I will visit my late wife's grave. I need to clean up because one of the widow I walk with will go with me. Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:49 AM (u82oZ) 199
THANK YOU! TO ALL VETERANS NEAR AND FAR.
——- You want to do that on Veteran’s Day. November 11th for those who served honorably. Memorial Day is set aside for those killed in combat. Posted by: Jus Sayin at May 25, 2026 08:49 AM (vATra) 200
1) should one invest in SpaceX when it goes public?
2) if so, should it be the IPO or should one wait? Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 08:51 AM (VCgbV) 201
Carey is a fag.
Posted by: The Ghost of Gene Rayburn at May 25, 2026 08:43 AM (vFG9F) He is "straight" but in hollyweird that just means he's still in the closet. Most likely a chomo too. Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at May 25, 2026 08:53 AM (OoF9t) 202
{Salty}
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:53 AM (RIvkX) 203
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The left won't be satisfied until some nutjob takes out President Trump. Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (sOgXJ) They won't be satisfied even then. You think when Trump goes away that everything will return to normal? Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (HdYcL) The left won't be happy until the right shoots back. This would allow them to point to us and say "See! See! They ARE violent!" Then they'll start killing us. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2026 08:54 AM (7v6oI) 204
The three greatest Progressive “reformers”—Herbert Croly, Woodrow Wilson, and Teddy Roosevelt—shared a small handful of ideas and ideals in common, despite their superficial differences—and among these was their loathing for the Constitution and the limits it placed on the federal government. All three believed in the necessity of a central authority, dedicated to the principles of the science of man and operated by the best and the brightest society could offer, namely themselves.
namely themselves Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:54 AM (/+uur) 205
My Dad was a Night Fighter in the Marine Corps. He flew a Hellcat. He flew over the Franklin after it was bombed and instantly knew that his brother was dead. His brother was a radioman and the bomb hit right over that space on the ship. I'm named after his brother. To be honest, it's not a great name and I took some teasing through the years over it, however- I've always felt proud and honored to carry it. So, there you go. The good with the bad. Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 08:54 AM (iJfKG) 206
Institutional investors are not the problem, they are one of the solutions. This Is No Way To Fix The Housing Shortage
I see Blackrock has unleashed their PR department in defense of gigantic megacorporations buying single family homes. TLDR: "They aren't buying up *all* the homes, so what are you complaining about?" Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 25, 2026 08:56 AM (f0sNM) 207
>>Memorial Day is set aside for those killed in combat.
All who died while in service, not just KIA Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 08:59 AM (J4Dwc) 208
> The left won't be happy until the right shoots back. This would allow them to point to us and say "See! See! They ARE violent!" Then they'll start killing us.
---------- TBH... the left is already killing us. Several notable conservatives/Republicans have either been shot at, outright killed or have been the target of attempted assassinations. It's a hot war but we've just not acknowledged it. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 08:59 AM (jehhT) 209
Mornin’, All. Happy Monday and good Memorial Day.
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 08:59 AM (77rzZ) 210
To all the heroes who died fighting for this country and didn't get to come home. I pray the Good Lord has rewarded you richly for your sacrifice.
And to my great, great (repeat as necessary) grandfather who crossed the Delaware with Gen. Washington to slit Hessian throats and was mortally wounded. Bravery that is not readily seen today. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2026 09:00 AM (7v6oI) 211
97 As the largest Starship EVER, V3 is a MAJOR evolutionary upgrade from V2, focused on higher performance, reliability, and FULL reusability
=================== As huge as V3 is, with 100 ton capacity, it is still only half as big as the planned operational capacity of 200 tons. SpaceX will get there too, no doubt. The company is one of the most incredible stories of our modern life. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:42 AM (fVNxJ) A major Starship V3 improvement over V2, based on this first V3 flight, is heat shield tile retention. Every V2 in-space video shows a blizzard of tiles coming off, from everywhere on the vehicle. SpaceX obviously employed a better tile attachment design on V3. I can see very very few missing tiles in the currently available entry videos. This is significant progress towards Starship quick-turnaround for another flight. Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:00 AM (5rh/l) 212
At 66, it pains me to think that there are so many of my fellow Americans who don't appreciate the sacrifices that it has taken to keep this great country upright since it's founding nearly 250 years ago. Instead of saying "hello", I greet people a lot by saying "It's a great day to be alive in the United States of America". That phrase tells people two things - first be grateful to be alive right now, today as there are no guarantees on waking up each day. Second, there are no guarantees on your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Thank the founders and the constitution for that. I am not shy about educating those people who disagree or seem confused with my greeting. God bless the men and woman who paid the ultimate sacrifice to defend this country and it's values.
Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 25, 2026 09:01 AM (cM0WE) 213
If you say so.
Posted by: Jus Sayin at May 25, 2026 09:02 AM (vATra) 214
According to a new series of studies, GLP-1 weight-loss drugs, such as Novo Nordisk’s Ozempic and Eli Lilly’s Mounjaro, can reduce cancer progression and mortality rates. One study of 10,000 patients, all with different types of cancer, done by the Cleveland Clinic Cancer Institute, observed a significant reduction in cancer progression among the patients. Lung cancer progression was halved in patients who took GLP-1 drugs, while the progression of breast cancer decreased by 43 percent.
Maybe cancer cells need the sugar and fats to grow. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 09:03 AM (/+uur) 215
I see Blackrock has unleashed their PR department in defense of gigantic megacorporations buying single family homes. TLDR: "They aren't buying up *all* the homes, so what are you complaining about?"
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 25, 2026 08:56 AM (f0sNM) The house where I grew up was a small, nice suburban subdivision. Yesterday Dad was saying a bunch of the houses on the street had been bought and are now rental homes. One right next to us (them) and a house across the street. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 09:03 AM (bss/y) 216
God bless the men and woman who paid the ultimate sacrifice to defend this country and it's values.
Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 25, 2026 09:01 AM (cM0WE) ===== Amen Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 09:03 AM (RIvkX) 217
1) should one invest in SpaceX when it goes public?
2) if so, should it be the IPO or should one wait? Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 08:51 AM (VCgbV) 1. I think, yes. 2. As a actual human, you will not be permitted to invest initially. Better to buy into one of the tech indices (particularly if they invest in space stuff) and then wait for the initial investors to do their rug pull prior to buying to hold. This does not constitute actual investment advice as I was a software engineer and not a money guy. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:04 AM (ExV1e) 218
Trump won the popular vote last time,
This will die the instant someone not to the Statist/Socialist liking gets voted in, and they will try something new. Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 09:05 AM (po3Ws) 219
On Memorial Day, remembering four men I never knew. From my dad's WWII diary, on the beach head at Anzio ten days after arriving as part of the second wave of the Allied landings"
Feb 16, 1944 The “hot” beachhead suddenly became “hotter”. Gerry hit with all the artillery he had at 0600 this morning. Our work here in CB ran wild. All the CPs and batteries seemed to be shelled at once. Brig CP and rear area quit heavily shelled. Chaplain Wallace, McDaniel, Pratt and Metz were all killed by a single round. Irony of fate. Three out of the first four killed in the battery were listed as non- combatants... Irony of Fate indeed Posted by: muldoon at May 25, 2026 09:05 AM (qgHp7) 220
A Democrat with a Nazi tattoo who admits to public masturbation is very on-brand in 2026.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 25, 2026 09:05 AM (f0sNM) 221
The house where I grew up was a small, nice suburban subdivision. Yesterday Dad was saying a bunch of the houses on the street had been bought and are now rental homes. One right next to us (them) and a house across the street.
"You will own nothing and be happy." Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 25, 2026 09:06 AM (f0sNM) 222
I can’t bring myself to trust the GLP-1 drug…. I exercise like a maniac and control my weight that way. I’m like Smith Barney… I lose fat the old fashioned way: I buurrrnnn it
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (ugElV) 223
Maybe cancer cells need the sugar and fats to grow.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 09:03 AM (/+uur) I recall reading something a couple years back about people who went on keto seeing their cancer slowing. I do believe that cancer feeds on sugar and not ketones but I don't know if they've ever gotten funding to do a wider study on the matter. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (ExV1e) Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (2Ez/1) 225
> A major Starship V3 improvement over V2, based on this first V3 flight, is heat shield tile retention.
--------- NASA spent years, and millions on this back in the 70's for the space shuttle. Losing one in a critical spot could be "bad." Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship." Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT) 226
Some men are morally opposed to violence.
They are protected by men who are not. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (2Ez/1) You can be morally opposed to violence and still serve. You just have to believe that, as bad as violence is, there are things which are worse and, perhaps foolishly, that your government will only use violence to prevent those worse things. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:09 AM (ExV1e) 227
So no activity down town
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 09:10 AM (Ia/+0) Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2026 09:11 AM (26GAh) 229
Remembering my group of the fallen - Lt. Sharon Lane, PVT. Mike Johnson, SGT. John Cavalier. 1LT White, SGT Albert Medis.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 25, 2026 09:11 AM (DuLyh) 230
Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT) Apparently, SpaceX is still looking at improvements to the adhesive and trying to determine if certain areas can lose tiles without significant damage to the craft. They're still in the "we don't care if it blows up as long as we get good data" phase. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:11 AM (ExV1e) 231
Maryland man was shot and killed by U.S. Secret Service agents Saturday evening after allegedly opening fire near a White House security checkpoint, triggering a lockdown and a massive federal law enforcement response in the nation’s capital.
----------- Now that The Mafia has gone underground, the Democrat-Communist Party should change its name to Murder, Inc. -- before Islam Trademarks it. Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat-Communist Party should change its name to Murder, Inc., Before Islam Trademar at May 25, 2026 09:15 AM (OLFlC) 232
LOL. I went to the Grand Canyon a few years ago.
It terrifies me. Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (qFwJc) Two Korean sisters who defected and escaped from North Korea, see the Grand Canyon for the first time. Goes to YouTube. You can watch the entire video, or begin at 11:25. They have a series of videos documenting their US travels, and their amazement of our country, its freedom and its people make things quite dusty at times. https://tinyurl.com/557apb25 Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 25, 2026 09:15 AM (5xuJ/) 233
BREAKING: Iran's Foreign Ministry now officially confirms that no Iranian nuclear commitments and uranium handover exist or will exist in any draft agreement with the US, calling all reports that claim otherwise a "pure lie," making further talks pointless due to the US insistence on this issue.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 09:16 AM (ykvlb) 234
1) should one invest in SpaceX when it goes public?
2) if so, should it be the IPO or should one wait? Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 08:51 AM (VCgbV) ================= No real clue, but I myself will wait. The rumored IPO valuation is crazy, at $2 Trillion (that's a hundred times 2025 REVENUE). So I expect at some point the market value will drop, and by a lot. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:17 AM (56OFV) 235
Iran's Foreign Ministry.
Is there anyone with a HIGHER level of credibility? Posted by: Homer Simpson at May 25, 2026 09:18 AM (2Ez/1) 236
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My Dad was a Night Fighter in the Marine Corps. He flew a Hellcat. He flew over the Franklin after it was bombed and instantly knew that his brother was dead. His brother was a radioman and the bomb hit right over that space on the ship. I'm named after his brother. To be honest, it's not a great name and I took some teasing through the years over it, however- I've always felt proud and honored to carry it. So, there you go. The good with the bad. Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 I salute your fallen uncle, and your father. A little-known design aspect of Essex-class fleet carriers was extensive un-armored compartments immediately below the unarmored flight deck (steel ribs and wood decking). These formed the overhead (ceiling) of the hangar deck. The hangar deck was the armored deck, protecting the propulsion spaces, magazines, and bunker oil and high-octane av gas tanks. Those under-flight deck compartments were a high-casualty zone. Bombs and kamizazes tore through the flight deck then through these spaces. Radio rooms, ship's offices, pilot ready rooms, and more. Explosions and fires on the hangar deck were deadly to anyone in those compartments. Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:19 AM (5rh/l) 237
All three believed in the necessity of a central authority, dedicated to the principles of the science of man and operated by the best and the brightest society could offer, namely themselves."
They may mean to rule well, but they mean to rule... Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 09:19 AM (XuXeR) 238
Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT) ------------- I wonder if they considered "fault tolerance by having two, three, or more layers of shields (although I assume the cost & weight of each layer is rather costly vis-a-vis limiting payload weight. Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:20 AM (OLFlC) 239
Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT) ================= It is a recurring problem with every capsule reentry. In this instance, SpaceX purposely loosened some tiles, so they could study the stress on nearby tiles once a tile drops off. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:20 AM (56OFV) 240
235 Iran's Foreign Ministry. Is there anyone with a HIGHER level of credibility? Posted by: Homer Simpson at May 25, 2026 09:18 AM (2Ez/1) Insofar as stating what the Iranian Government’s intentions are - no, there isn’t. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 09:22 AM (ykvlb) 241
You've never seen the corn grown for ethanol. It's not like the stuff grown for food. It's short, grown in high density and they use the entire plant for ethanol.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 25, 2026 09:23 AM (7T8ei) 242
Iran's Foreign Ministry.
Is there anyone with a HIGHER level of credibility? Posted by: Homer Simpson at May 25, 2026 09:18 AM (2Ez/1) -------------- Old & Busted: Bahgdad Bob. New Hotness: Tehran Todd. Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:25 AM (OLFlC) 243
BREAKING: Iran's Foreign Ministry now officially confirms that no Iranian nuclear commitments and uranium handover exist or will exist in any draft agreement with the US, calling all reports that claim otherwise a "pure lie," making further talks pointless due to the US insistence on this issue.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 09:16 AM (ykvlb) Trying to make a deal has been nothing but an exercise in futility. Not sure what Trump’s been thinking on this but unless he has some 3D chess moves up his sleeves he’s kinda lost his way on Iran. He needs to get back to the Beach Boys song: bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran 🎶 Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2026 09:25 AM (26GAh) 244
230 Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT) Apparently, SpaceX is still looking at improvements to the adhesive and trying to determine if certain areas can lose tiles without significant damage to the craft. They're still in the "we don't care if it blows up as long as we get good data" phase. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:11 AM (ExV1e) Starship V2 tiles were mechanically attached not adhesive-attached. Each tile had a metal clip embedded in its underside, attaching to a stud welded to the vehicle's skin. I do not know how the V3 tiles are attached. Perhaps SpaceX is now using adhesive attachment. Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:25 AM (5rh/l) 245
1) should one invest in SpaceX when it goes public?
2) if so, should it be the IPO or should one wait? Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 08:51 AM (VCgbV) ================= No real clue, but I myself will wait. The rumored IPO valuation is crazy, at $2 Trillion (that's a hundred times 2025 REVENUE). So I expect at some point the market value will drop, and by a lot. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:17 AM (56OFV) Here's the thing for me. Tesla was consistently constantly overvalued badly yet the stocks continued to rise almost unimpeded until fairly recently. If I'd ignored my common sense when it first went on the market and invested modestly, I be a bajillionaire (or some variation on that) now. I'll try (I think) a modest investment in the SpaceX IPO, if I can squeak in at the opening and the cost is low enough. However, I doubt that I as an average Joe Blow investor can do that. So, I'll wait for a bit and see if it falls enough when people take early profit when it initially rises. Not advice, but that's my plan. Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:26 AM (iJfKG) 246
I'm looking at SpaceX like Apple or Microsoft, etc.
I don't want to look back in 20 years and think, I should have invested. I know that there are no guarantees but I'm seriously thinking of investing a bit into it. Maybe something that can be passed on to my kids. Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 09:27 AM (VCgbV) 247
lin-duh, not only SpaceX but the companies that supply it.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2026 09:29 AM (5P5DO) 248
Good morning, all, and thanks you, J.J.
May the memory of our fallen soldiers be a blessing. 🙏 Their ultimate sacrifice and selfless courage ensure the freedoms we cherish, and their legacy lives on in the peace and liberty of our nation. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 09:30 AM (NFX2v) 249
Lord, we praise and honor you, and give thanks to you for inspiring our founders. We also thank you for making this America a nation of defenders. We ask you to guide us back to your eternal truths as we once knew them. Make these memories a reminder to us today, we pray.
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 09:31 AM (LHPAg) 250
Supposably Trump is telling the Gulf countries that if they join the Abraham Accords, he will put a wrap on the Iran exercise
I could be wrong Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 09:31 AM (ZxPkt) 251
Todays Post has a story about two gorgeous twin sisters who served as co-valedictorians of their Tampa high school graduating class, and each managed to do 500 hours of service time as well. Unbelievable accomplishments (and great genes!).
But the really impressive thing is they are both headed to the Honors Program at Florida next year, as Chem majors. My wife counsels high school seniors on college applications and she says Florida (and its Honors College) is approaching top tier status among graduating seniors, like Michigan, North Carolina, or Virginia. Florida is on a huge roll, in everything. Suck it, New York. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:31 AM (PSpan) 252
I lost a cousin in Vietnam, John Francis, just a few days after his 19th birthday.
Never thought of myself as coming from a military family but realized that my Dad and all his brothers (my uncles) served. One actually made a career out of it and retired as a Command Chief Master Sergeant. Two of my brothers also served, and one of my sons. Posted by: IrishEi ?! at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (3ImbR) 253
In the court of public opinion, where the 'news' media act as prosecutor and judge and jury and executioner, Trump must go through all the motions.
Posted by: davidt at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Q+gd/) 254
Art be NOOD.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (N5734) 255
What is this the fifth or sixth attempt already?
-------- At least the fourth, that we know of. After the next one, Trump will account for more than a third of Presidential assassination attempts. I had a couple thoughts about this. 1.) In his first term, a lot of people argued that it wasn't really any different than the Bush derangement stuff back when I was a kid. I argued it was much worse - I think it's safe to say I was right, at this point. 2.) A lot of people now argue that a President Vance or Rubio or DeSantis would have an easier time of it, because they could government on a MAGA platform without the baggage of Being Trump. If you think that, allow me to point out the mild-mannered, gregarious young Christian man who took a .30-06 to the neck recently. These times are not more of the same, in any regard. This is a new world. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (BI5O2) 256
Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:26 AM (iJfKG)
============= Reasonable. You might well be right! Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (PSpan) 257
A little-known design aspect of Essex-class fleet carriers was extensive un-armored compartments immediately below the unarmored flight deck (steel ribs and wood decking). These formed the overhead (ceiling) of the hangar deck. The hangar deck was the armored deck, protecting the propulsion spaces, magazines, and bunker oil and high-octane av gas tanks. Those under-flight deck compartments were a high-casualty zone. Bombs and kamizazes tore through the flight deck then through these spaces. Radio rooms, ship's offices, pilot ready rooms, and more. Explosions and fires on the hangar deck were deadly to anyone in those compartments. Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:19 AM (5rh/l) Interesting. I guess that why a single bomb wrecked such terrible damage and loss of life. Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:34 AM (iJfKG) 258
“ Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?” And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
Isaiah 6:8 RIP my brothers. Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2026 09:37 AM (u/66v) 259
The New York Times
Pope Leo Warns of Risks From A.I. in 42,300-Word Encyclical The document marks a powerful foray by the leader of the Roman Catholic Church into the debate about the misuse or overuse of artificial intelligence. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (NFX2v) Posted by: Inogame at May 25, 2026 09:41 AM (Eeu73) 261
The left won't be happy until the right shoots back. This would allow them to point to us and say "See! See! They ARE violent!" Then they'll start killing us.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2026 08:54 AM (7v6oI) They can TRY. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 25, 2026 09:43 AM (5xuJ/) 262
212 At 66, it pains me to think that there are so many of my fellow Americans who don't appreciate the sacrifices that it has taken to keep this great country upright since it's founding nearly 250 years ago. Instead of saying "hello", I greet people a lot by saying "It's a great day to be alive in the United States of America". That phrase tells people two things - first be grateful to be alive right now, today as there are no guarantees on waking up each day. Second, there are no guarantees on your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Thank the founders and the constitution for that. I am not shy about educating those people who disagree or seem confused with my greeting. God bless the men and woman who paid the ultimate sacrifice to defend this country and it's values.
Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 25, 2026 09:01 AM (cM0WE) For the past ten or fifteen years I had said 'It's a beautiful day!' to everybody, a good dipstick on where a person is in their head. From now on I will incorporate you saluation. To see if they love America. Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 09:46 AM (LHPAg) 263
A lot of people now argue that a President Vance or Rubio or DeSantis would have an easier time of it, because they could government on a MAGA platform without the baggage of Being Trump. If you think that, allow me to point out the mild-mannered, gregarious young Christian man who took a .30-06 to the neck recently.
These times are not more of the same, in any regard. This is a new world. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (BI5O2) -------------- Agree completely, and it amazes me there are so few rational voices in the Democrat Party trying to stop this movement towards irrational thought and political violence. Except for Fetterman, I can't think of a single responsible voice. They all love power more than anything. Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:50 AM (6txWC) 264
Thanks, JJ … my uncle was an Army combat photographer in WWII and went into the Dachau camp. I was (perhaps) 8 or 9 when he came to the house one day with a huge box of stuff. Souvenirs from the war. He gave me a German officer's coat (a colonel in Artillery going by the color on the epaulets), a Nazi armband, miscellaneous 'Gau Tag' pins, etc, a NazionaleFrauenschaft pin, and two tiny half-frame b&w photos he'd taken with his personal camera (not the Army Graflex). Those pix were of skeletons falling out of the opened oven doors. One day - maybe a year or two later - I looked for 'em and they were gone. I think Mom thought they were too much for my tiny 8-year-old mind. I still have the memories, tho' … and I NEVER tolerate being told that the Holocaust didn't happen. (hand salute) …
Posted by: Dr_No at May 25, 2026 09:55 AM (ayRl+) 265
A senior administration official said Best fired approximately three shots before Secret Service agents returned fire and killed him. Authorities said the suspect never breached the White House grounds.
Obviously not the best... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (ynpvh) 266
A little-known design aspect of Essex-class fleet carriers was extensive un-armored compartments immediately below the unarmored flight deck (steel ribs and wood decking). These formed the overhead (ceiling) of the hangar deck. The hangar deck was the armored deck, protecting the propulsion spaces, magazines, and bunker oil and high-octane av gas tanks. Those under-flight deck compartments were a high-casualty zone. Bombs and kamizazes tore through the flight deck then through these spaces. Radio rooms, ship's offices, pilot ready rooms, and more. Explosions and fires on the hangar deck were deadly to anyone in those compartments. Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:19 AM (5rh/l) --------- Japanese carriers were made the same way. Only the British had steel flight decks on their carriers. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 25, 2026 11:26 AM (HLgI3) 267
A senior administration official said Best fired approximately three shots before Secret Service agents returned fire and killed him. Authorities said the suspect never breached the White House grounds. ----------- There's a surviving video online where the dummy slurs out that the Butler assassin was a bad shot, and he could the job right. He may have been a mental case, but he picked up the ideas that were put out there by the Left. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 25, 2026 11:31 AM (HLgI3) 268
219 On Memorial Day, remembering four men I never knew. From my dad's WWII diary, on the beach head at Anzio ten days after arriving as part of the second wave of the Allied landings"
Feb 16, 1944 The “hot” beachhead suddenly became “hotter”. Gerry hit with all the artillery he had at 0600 this morning. Our work here in CB ran wild. All the CPs and batteries seemed to be shelled at once. Brig CP and rear area quit heavily shelled. Chaplain Wallace, McDaniel, Pratt and Metz were all killed by a single round. Irony of fate. Three out of the first four killed in the battery were listed as non- combatants... Irony of Fate indeed Posted by: muldoon Thank you, Muldoon. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 01:32 PM (NFX2v) 269
Where the hell are people getting the idea that Iran has magically rebuilt their missiles and drones? Stories on this are written as though this was an official announcement, until you bore down and find out it was "four sources familiar with the intelligence" (follow the links).
This is horseshit. Iran is running on sheer bluff and people are buying it. Posted by: MartynWW at May 25, 2026 02:13 PM (M9zxq) Daily Tech News 25 May 2026Top Story
Tech News
Musical Interlude I noticed when grabbing the video that they'll be touring the US starting in August. They released their latest album in March. Disclaimer: What I tell you three times is truthy. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
w00t
Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE) 2
BOING!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:31 AM (XyZGq) 3
Spencer Pratt running for LA Mayor:
Spencer Pratt’s team is power-washing stencils onto city sidewalks, creating visible messages where the cleaned sections contrast sharply with the surrounding dirt and grime. "Imagine if the streets were this clean" The only way to fully erase them? Actually clean the streets. A great reminder about infrastructure and basic maintenance in a city that is declining under long-time Democratic leadership. Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 04:32 AM (2PamV) 4
Pixy, shouldn't you be off somewhere playing ENreco?
Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:36 AM (6wpGE) 5
So long, Paterson, NJ!
https://tinyurl.com/27asksaf Maybe Paterson can become Mamdani's NYC's 6th borough. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:36 AM (XyZGq) 6
A great reminder about infrastructure and basic maintenance in a city that is declining under long-time Democratic leadership.
Posted by: rickb223 +++ Not sure Democrat and leadership should ever be used in the same sentence. Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:36 AM (yAu9Y) Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:40 AM (XyZGq) 8
So long, Paterson, NJ!
https://tinyurl.com/27asksaf Maybe Paterson can become Mamdani's NYC's 6th borough. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, +++ I wonder if they're replacing the Ukrainian flag. Don't we stand with Ukraine anymore? Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:42 AM (yAu9Y) 9
Dorothy Kilgallen did not die from circumstances unknown.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 25, 2026 04:44 AM (glnUu) Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:44 AM (6wpGE) 11
Skip went back to bed.
538 Way too early to get up Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 03:17 AM (Ia/+0) Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:45 AM (6wpGE) 12
4 Pixy, shouldn't you be off somewhere playing ENreco?
Posted by: m They're finished for the day. They run on Japan time so it's basically the same hours I work. At least I get to listen to it. Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (BLOW1) 13
Memorial Day reminder:
https://tinyurl.com/4kjztjfa Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey +++ And yet she is supposedly leading in the polls for '28. What a country we live in. Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (yAu9Y) 14
Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 25, 2026 04:51 AM (wrsGP) 15
12 4 Pixy, shouldn't you be off somewhere playing ENreco?
Posted by: m They're finished for the day. They run on Japan time so it's basically the same hours I work. At least I get to listen to it. Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (BLOW1) Oh! Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:57 AM (6wpGE) 16
13 Memorial Day reminder:
https://tinyurl.com/4kjztjfa Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey +++ And yet she is supposedly leading in the polls for '28. What a country we live in. Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (yAu9Y) ... or Is SHE leading in the polls? Stephen L. Miller retweeted Siraj Hashmi @SirajAHashmi 7h And now we’re joined by Global Sexual Assault Prevention Ambassador Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez… Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:00 AM (6wpGE) 17
Siraj Hashmi @SirajAHashmi 7h And now we’re joined by Global Sexual Assault Prevention Ambassador Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez… https://xcancel.com/t.co/u8BAprsRy4 Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:01 AM (6wpGE) 18
Pixy speaks in a language I mostly don't understand, until I read the links. I used to code in machine language and punch cards. I don't find it too hard of a time figuring these things out. It keeps me sharp.
Moore's Law has gone over the falls into the eddy currents. Where is the direction? Cryptocurrency? AI? Interplanetary Space? We're losing our grip. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 05:01 AM (D1E+2) 19
Morning, Tech Peeps
Posted by: fluffy at May 25, 2026 05:07 AM (V0/Sp) 20
7 Memorial Day reminder:
https://tinyurl.com/4kjztjfa Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:40 AM (XyZGq) It is UN BELIEVABLE. Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:09 AM (6wpGE) 21
13 Memorial Day reminder:
https://tinyurl.com/4kjztjfa Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey +++ And yet she is supposedly leading in the polls for '28. What a country we live in. Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (yAu9Y) Look at it from their perspective. If they believe even half of the things they say about Trump, then it means that a corrupt low-functioning coward came back to win after losing. So, if the System is so easy/random that even he could do it... then anyone can! They can't accept that Trump is a centurial talent; they can't even accept that he's average, let alone above, let alone far above. And since they can't accept that he's elite, they can't conceive of themselves as being unable to replicate his achievements. The demented logic of their studious unreality dooms them to be certain that Coconut Kam can do the same. Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 05:11 AM (Sy6m/) Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:13 AM (6wpGE) 23
Brown on the outside, white on the inside. Her mom's Brahmin; and her dad's line includes a slave owner, not a slave.
Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 05:16 AM (Sy6m/) 24
Morning Techsters. Feels like spring is really setting in to the high plains.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 25, 2026 05:18 AM (YZcg9) 25
g'mornin', 'rons Posted by: AltonJackson at May 25, 2026 05:20 AM (AMvSw) 26
They can't accept that Trump is a centurial talent; they can't even accept that he's average, let alone above, let alone far above. And since they can't accept that he's elite, they can't conceive of themselves as being unable to replicate his achievements. The demented logic of their studious unreality dooms them to be certain that Coconut Kam can do the same.
Posted by: SciVo +++ I don't believe the polls at all. I'll be really surprised if Coconut Kam is their nominee. Unless maybe they just appoint her again. Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 05:26 AM (yAu9Y) 27
I would like to see a catfight between Coconut Kam and AOC.
Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:29 AM (6wpGE) 28
G'mornin' everyone!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 25, 2026 05:35 AM (VyBeY) 29
G'Day everyone
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 05:37 AM (Ia/+0) 30
"Not sure Democrat and leadership should ever be used in the same sentence.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:36 AM (yAu9Y) " just put it in quotes; there are lots of words that need that treatment Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 25, 2026 05:40 AM (VyBeY) 31
Coconut Kam
23 Brown on the outside, white on the inside. Her mom's Brahmin; and her dad's line includes a slave owner, not a slave. Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 05:16 AM (Sy6m/) and also: My mother used to—she would give us a hard time sometimes, and she would say to us, "I don't know what's wrong with you young people. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?" (Laughs.) --Kamala Harris, May 10, 2023 Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:41 AM (6wpGE) 32
Seymour Bernstein on Bach
Ben Laude - piano J. S. Bach Invention No. 1 in C Major The video captures a master class about how to interpret Invention No. 1. The artistry of Mr. Bernstein is in bringing to life the nuances of Bach's musical mind. https://youtu.be/RXCm6033JvM Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 25, 2026 05:43 AM (glnUu) 33
(Laughs.) --> (Cackles.)
Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:45 AM (6wpGE) 34
Crazy Ivan says everything must go, no offer is to crazy for Crazy Ivan, No credit? No problem? Free doorbuster prizes every hour on all your favorite tech gear including the hottest z80 PCs. And bring the kids for their free shot of vodka, it'll be like a date night out with the mistress!
https://youtu.be/7Zf9xe53hEg Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 25, 2026 05:52 AM (glnUu) 35
Evening and morning for the Memorial Day toilers and early risers!
Working today, Bunkie? And your mother-in-law has piles and she's taking it out on you, and it's a Monday to boot? Is that what's worrying you? Well, just remember: "Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?" Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 05:54 AM (wzUl9) Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 25, 2026 05:55 AM (glnUu) 37
(Laughs.) --> (Cackles.)
Posted by: m +++ It's pretty sad when laughing like a hyena makes you look more intelligent than opening your mouth and trying to actually answer a question. Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 05:58 AM (yAu9Y) 38
I hear thunder grumbling and muttering off in the distance, or the gods are bowling; pick your metaphor. We have a 100% chance of rain today. Something tells me I ain't gonna be able to work out this morning, and I'm . . . not sad. Yesterday's session was pretty good and a day off would not be a bad thing.
Howz ever'body doin'? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 05:58 AM (wzUl9) 39
Re Star Citizen: I'm so glad I never took a chance on that thing.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 25, 2026 06:02 AM (O7YUW) 40
Still not up yet, wait too much longer and might as well just stay here until tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 06:06 AM (Ia/+0) 41
Re Star Citizen: I'm so glad I never took a chance on that thing.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 25, 2026 06:02 AM (O7YUW) There's a suckered born every minute. Elite: Dangerous has been out as a playable game for nearly as long that's still updated to this day. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 06:09 AM (dK+Kv) 42
In a world where c and c++ exist, why anyone would use rust is a mystery.
Fun fact: The Python interpreter and the rust backend compiler are written in c/c++. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:16 AM (XV/Pl) 43
Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at May 25, 2026 06:18 AM (2Ez/1) 44
Howz ever'body doin'?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius Great! Off work today. Went to bed at 11:30 last night. Woke up at 2:30. Been up ever since. 😡 Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 06:19 AM (2PamV) 45
Migrating from Python to Rust. (Corrode) That's a big jump. You probably don't want to do It. But "Rust never sleeps", according to a guitar playing old lesbian. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026 06:20 AM (s9VOe) 46
Here is a c++ function:
int sum(int a, int b) { return a + b; } Here is a Rust function: fn sum(a: i32, b: i32) -> i32 { a + b } Nuff said. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:23 AM (XV/Pl) 47
One of the Universal Rathbone/Bruce films, Sherlock Holmes in Terror By Night, is on Movies! It appears to be a "locked train compartment" murder so far, with the theft of a priceless diamond thrown in.
Rathbone really was the best at the role until Jeremy Brett, wasn't he? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:24 AM (wzUl9) 48
It also might be down to the fact that I’ve been looking at and using c/c++ for 40 years and that’s how my brain is wired.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:26 AM (XV/Pl) 49
My 2010 Mazda 6 has, I believe, expired. All that remains is to decide which firm is to take it off my hands. It was my Scoutmaster car, as it served me during the time that I served in that role. Many an interesting conversation occurred in her because of that: Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026 06:27 AM (s9VOe) 50
Its going to clear up, just seems to be taking its time today
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 06:28 AM (Ia/+0) 51
So much rain here in Hochul country. The great lakes are near or at flood stage. Much depends on how much water they release into the St. Lawrence River. Some think that Hochul can loose, but I think her and Zohran Mamdani will one way or another win. Mamdani gets his grocery stores up at running at a huge cost, Life will be grand in NYC.
Posted by: Colin at May 25, 2026 06:28 AM (CiQE7) 52
Here is a c++ function:
int sum(int a, int b) { return a + b; } Here is a Rust function: fn sum(a: i32, b: i32) -> i32 { a + b } Nuff said. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:23 AM (XV/Pl) So, that's what Greek looks like. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 06:28 AM (1Ff7Z) 53
It was my Scoutmaster car, as it served me during the time that I served in that role. Many an interesting conversation occurred in her because of that:
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026 06:27 AM (s9VOe) lol Our Scoutmaster has the same. Must be something in the upholstery fumes. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 06:29 AM (dK+Kv) 54
My former employer used to give us Good Friday off as well as Memorial Day. They took the former away some years ago and tossed us an "extra vacation day" bone that we could use anytime.
Could have been worse. They used to expect us to work between Christmas and New Year's. So many people took vacation time then, I expect, that they finally decreed a "Winter Holiday" for all but essential personnel, and turned off the heat (if it were even necessary) starting at 6pm on the last work day before Christmas. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:32 AM (wzUl9) 55
Could have been worse. They used to expect us to work between Christmas and New Year's. So many people took vacation time then, I expect, that they finally decreed a "Winter Holiday" for all but essential personnel, and turned off the heat (if it were even necessary) starting at 6pm on the last work day before Christmas.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:32 AM (wzUl9) --- Yep. My own employer has given us four "Winter Break" days between Christmas and New Year's. They discovered they actually saved money by doing that. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 25, 2026 06:33 AM (gnNyN) 56
@52
>> So, that's what Greek looks like. C is not hard to understand for a lay person, You are defining the sum function, sum is going to return an integer value, you are passing two integer variables to the function, adding them and then returning them. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:34 AM (XV/Pl) 57
An example: "I completed my report on pellagra." "Now there's a word that you don't hear every day." Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026 06:34 AM (s9VOe) 58
An actual sunny day yesterday. Went to 2:30 Mass at my usual parish, in deference to Her Majesty's wish that I didn't travel in the dark yesterday morning to the 7:00 AM Mass given the weather and roads. It was faintly unsettling not seeing the usual backs of heads sitting in the usual seats, since I always get there early and sit in the very back. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 06:35 AM (HdYcL) 59
52 Here is a c++ function:
int sum(int a, int b) { return a + b; } Here is a Rust function: fn sum(a: i32, b: i32) -> i32 { a + b } Nuff said. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:23 AM (XV/Pl) Not bad. Posted by: Perl fanboi at May 25, 2026 06:35 AM (/k+lW) 60
My 2010 Mazda 6 has, I believe, expired. All that remains is to decide which firm is to take it off my hands.
It was my Scoutmaster car, as it served me during the time that I served in that role. Many an interesting conversation occurred in her because of that: Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026 *** A handsomely styled vehicle. The recent (last?) generation is sharp-looking too. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:35 AM (wzUl9) 61
You are defining the sum function, sum is going to return an integer value, you are passing two integer variables to the function, adding them and then returning them.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:34 AM (XV/Pl) Like I said.... Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 06:47 AM (1Ff7Z) 62
C is not hard to understand for a lay person,
You are defining the sum function, sum is going to return an integer value, you are passing two integer variables to the function, adding them and then returning them. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 *** I got the C code all right (I never worked in it). The Rust I presumed was doing the same thing. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:52 AM (wzUl9) 63
I never understood OOP. Write a function to do a simple operation? Nonsense.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 06:53 AM (qFwJc) 64
It's just another Merlot Monday.
Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at May 25, 2026 06:53 AM (2Ez/1) 65
JJ is nood.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 06:53 AM (ExV1e) 66
mornin yall
"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday" This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down. Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person. Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:55 AM (vFG9F) 67
Thoroughly Ot, Vanessa Freeman has lost weight and is now smoking’.
Democrats have so isolated themselves from feedback that they can’t even hear themselves. Rained all day yesterday. Mom says the island is to have 4 days of rain. Looks like I picked a good time to go to Maine. Posted by: Accomack at May 25, 2026 06:57 AM (QJ2Hs) 68
"...since I always get there early and sit in the very back."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 06:35 AM ++++ As every Southern Baptist knows: You gotta get there early if you want to get a back row seat. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:01 AM (2Ez/1) 69
66 "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"
Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person. Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:55 AM (vFG9F) Will do. Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 07:13 AM (6wpGE) 70
52 So, that's what Greek looks like.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 06:28 AM (1Ff7Z) αβγδε ζηθικ λμνξο πρστυ φχψω Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 07:31 AM (6wpGE) 71
*shrugs* You don't write code you care about in a dynamically typed, single-threaded scripting language.
A big part of the reason we're in the current mess is developers insisting on their own convenience over working code. Posted by: Daniel Ream at May 25, 2026 09:27 AM (LgYtf) 72
Youre such a fucking idiot. The nVidia app has the shader cache recompile option. Youre just an ignorant big mouth women and you dont know it. Like all millennial's...
Posted by: Fisht at May 25, 2026 12:00 PM (BHEHK) 73
No Squeeze shows within 300mi of here. Would make the drive if Jools Holland was on keyboards.
Posted by: manerac at May 25, 2026 02:23 PM (CuY8K) Sunday Overnight Open Thread - May 24, 2026 [Doof]![]() Howdy Hordelings! Welcome to the Sunday night ONT. Appreciate you spending some of your holiday weekend here. Open thread, as always. Fashion and music, as always. What's on YOUR mind tonight? A different time
----- Remember when this was new cutting edge tech?
----- Do you remember any of these old restaurants? ![]() ----- How about old, cheap beer? Which one was your go to? One of these or a different one? ![]() 1. A Lady Dior Bag The iconic Dior Lady Dior in classic black cannage lambskin. Medium size, please. Big enough for my essentials, lipstick, and snacks, but not so huge I look like I’m smuggling baguettes. Those D.I.O.R. charms? Chef’s kiss. Why it’s on the list: Because it’s classic, and gorgeous. ![]() 2. Christian Louboutin Strappy Sandals Louboutin Marilyn Slingback Sandal. Ideal for a birthday dinner where I plan to sit dramatically and pretend this is how I dress daily. Why it’s on the list: Because nothing says glamorous like shoes that make you walk like you own the sidewalk. ![]() 3. A sundress from Zimmerman that made me gasp A Zimmermann Indra Metallic Stripe Print Silk and Cotton Halter dress. It’s breezy, but elevated. It has such interesting details- subtle cutouts, a flattering twist, the color blocking. Why it’s on the list: This one would be worn on repeat for summer brunches where I pretend I have my life together. ![]() 4. MOUSSY Vintage Jeans Perfectly faded Deltona Straight selvedge jeans with a lived-in look. The kind that make you feel effortlessly chic even when you’re just running to Target. But Piper, you may be thinking, Why these? Don’t you already have a few pairs of MOUSSY jeans hanging in the closet? Yes, but not these ones in particular! Why it’s on the list: because I love a rigid, 100% cotton jean with a button fly. ![]() Bonus Wishlist Wildcard: Luxury sunglasses in a modern cat eye because I keep looking at them. ![]() There you have it — my very mature, very reasonable birthday wishlist. Here’s to another trip around the sun in style! ----- Thanks, Piper. Hope you have a wonderful birthday tomorrow! Don't forget to check out Piper's X page. from thisdayinmusic.com Born on this date in 1969: Rich Robinson, guitarist with The Black Crowes (along with older brother Chris Robinson) On this date in 1997: Hanson started a three week run at No.1 on the US singles chart with 'MMMBop' On this date in 1999: Queen singer Freddie Mercury, who died in 1991, was honoured on a new set of millennium stamps issued by the Royal Mail. Tonight's ONT brought to you by proper perspective
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Po pathetic girl said people out here don’t know how to drive. Said, that the people back home in Detroit were drivers, that people out here didn’t know nothin’. Little did she understand that out here, we are the best.
https://youtu.be/kLUYf6cekMA Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:01 PM (D2ex+) Posted by: morigu at May 24, 2026 10:01 PM (RDxgA) Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 10:02 PM (bss/y) 4
omg Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 10:03 PM (n7rxJ) 5
Farrell's is the only one I heard of mumble mumble years ago.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:03 PM (1Ff7Z) 6
I read ALL the content, played the videos, talked to my mom about them! -- then looked down and saw I was the first one here. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 10:04 PM (n7rxJ) 7
Piper, Zimmerman is a FANTASTIC label. I'd buy their stuff if I could afford it. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (n7rxJ) 8
5 Farrell's is the only one I heard of mumble mumble years ago.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:03 PM (1Ff7Z) Howard Johnson's no? Really? Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (bss/y) Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (oyck1) 10
As for the beers... I wasn't old enough. I do remember Hamm's, Falstaff, and Burgie. Still have a Burgie bottle opener.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (1Ff7Z) 11
Pabst!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 24, 2026 10:06 PM (uTEOj) 12
Evenin'
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:06 PM (sAmhv) 13
I remember Howard Johnson's, actually. I associated it with shampoo and that's why I never stopped at one
Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (gKWVE) 14
That Pup 'N' Taco looks exactly like a Whataburger. I wonder if there is some kind of relation or just coincidence.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (vTZFs) 15
Strange, but this Oklahoma country boy once had lunch at a Horn and Hardarts automat in NYC! Weird to me, but quite a selection. Thanks for the ONT, Doof!
Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (Jr+re) 16
Do you remember any of these old restaurants?
- HoJos was the one I remember from family vacations. Honorable mention to the A&W chain, too, which apparently is still around, though I haven't seen one in ages. Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (vSvIl) Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 10:08 PM (ZxPkt) Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:08 PM (1Ff7Z) 19
Good evening Horde. Thanks Disco and Piper!
Posted by: TRex - low key fashion dino at May 24, 2026 10:09 PM (IQ6Gq) 20
Beer ads as a kid was mostly Rainier, Olympia, and Hamm's
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the field in Oregon at May 24, 2026 10:09 PM (/UBLm) 21
you take a Big Mac, put Thousand Island dressing in there, and that was the Mighty Mo
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 10:09 PM (ZxPkt) Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 10:09 PM (qx7Zg) 23
HoJo was my entry into the restaurant world. I spent twenty years in food, all the way from dishwasher to manager. A few years back, I realized HoJo was gone -- no more clam strip sandwiches.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (DK5Sh) 24
Farrell's is the only one I heard of mumble mumble years ago.
Posted by: OrangeEnt Farrell's and older sister always wanted fried clams at Howard Johnson's Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (oyck1) 25
as far as the old beers, I'll go with Michelob. Most the others were cat piss.
The millennials (I'm GenX) brought Pabst back. Pabst turned out to be okay. By the early 2010s anyway. But I'm sure the commenters here would rather drink BILLY BEER. It's the best Bill Carter ever tasted and he'd tasted a lot. Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (gKWVE) 26
Farrell’s, HoJo and Burger Chef. PBR.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (2NHgQ) 27
I don't see Pearl or Lone Star in that lineup. Remember the "Weekends are made for Michelob" campaign? It worked. It boosted their sales on weekends and cratered them the other five days of the week.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (vTZFs) 28
Ho Jos is the only one I recognize. Hi all!
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (p4NUW) 29
Howard Johnson's no? Really?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (bss/y) Never heard of it before the 80s. Too far west. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (1Ff7Z) 30
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Piper, Zimmerman is a FANTASTIC label. I'd buy their stuff if I could afford it. Posted by: Blonde Morticia The lost has been submitted. Now we wait. 😂 Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (p4NUW) 31
Farrells, Burger Chef,Lum’s,Red Barn,Howard Johnson’s. I grew up in the Midwest.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (M4pvf) 32
My wife has a 4 figure "purse" or bag or whatever she bought when we lived in California. She was making 6 figures at Stanford University running their business college's IT department.
I haven't seen it since. That was 20 years ago. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (jehhT) 33
Farrells
Cart Before the Horse was 13 scoops (I think) in a big old bowl. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (/+uur) 34
I didn't even know Schmidt was real
youtu.be/hCOSejS1SSY Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 10:12 PM (gKWVE) 35
What about Blatz?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 24, 2026 10:12 PM (/HDaX) 36
Burger Chef and Jeff
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:12 PM (/+uur) 37
Thanks for a special Memorial Day Sunday ONT, Doof!
Happy birthday, Piper! May you receive the gifts you have on your wish list! Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 24, 2026 10:12 PM (D/6p1) 38
Up "north" you could get Grain Belt . . . . for some reason.
Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:13 PM (Jr+re) 39
Beer list is legit. Iron City Beer is on it.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 24, 2026 10:13 PM (yO07m) 40
Sorry I'm late, I was trying to order Door Dash from Sambo's.
Posted by: tankdemon at May 24, 2026 10:13 PM (R+wYZ) 41
Honorable mention to the A&W chain, too, which apparently is still around, though I haven't seen one in ages.
Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (vSvIl) Original stand in Lodi is long gone, but they're still around. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:13 PM (1Ff7Z) 42
Well, my parents didn't drink but I had a neighbor who drank gallons of Schaeffers. I noticed Genesee isn't on that pic. Probably should be.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:14 PM (sAmhv) 43
Going up to Western PA on Tuesday. Planning on getting a 12 pack of IC Light. Not brave enough for regular ole IC.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:14 PM (sAmhv) 44
‘It’s the latest fad… tiny stereo cassette players with featherweight headphones’
— ‘CBS Evening News’ (May 22, 1981) If anyone knows featherweight, it's Dan Rather. Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (Riz8t) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (D2ex+) 46
Beer. Number 11 Michelob. Bottle always bottle.
Doctor took me off beer fifteen years ago. So it's been awhile. We are about to get Summer, that's when I miss a cold one. Posted by: Case at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (8XBuM) 47
I just stumbled across a wild Reddit thread, specifically on the Seattle group. The post was about how Meta layoffs are hitting H1-B workers from India especially hard; all these guest workers who have brought over their families and put their kids in local schools are now panicking about being made to go back in the next few months.
What makes it wild is the comments section. Again, this is Reddit we're talking about; and Seattle is, well, Seattle. And yet, the comments were basically telling these immigrants to piss off. Among the juicier responses were "drop these anchor baby scams"; "They're so entitled they make actual Americans look humble"; "Prioritize jobs for US citizens"; and "put the temporary back in temporary work visas." If we're seeing this kind of sentiment even among Seattle users of Reddit...eh, maybe there's hope for the country after all. Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (jGGMD) 48
You have Michelob in the cheap beer picture? Wasn't that Anheisher-Busch's "premium" label?
Posted by: tankdemon at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (R+wYZ) 49
For various reasons we are on road trips during Memorial Day weekend. This one is no exception. But I am always grateful to see the little towns we drive through celebrating. I love America.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the field in Oregon at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (/UBLm) 50
Do you remember any of these old restaurants?
I worked in a Howard Johnson's one summer. If any chain deserved oblivion, that one did. Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (Riz8t) 51
Learned a valuable lesson today, if you’re going to fall, just roll with it and into it.
Also, I ran out of whiskey, Which is sub-optimal. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (XV/Pl) 52
Hanson kids need a haircut. Fuckin' hippies.
Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (oq9dX) 53
Tank demon beat me to it. Where’s Sambos on the list of lost chains. Basically they renamed them since Sambos was racist and many than closed down.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (2NHgQ) 54
List. The list. Not lost.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (p4NUW) 55
The largest, the "Zoo" sundae, was delivered with great fanfare by a number of employees carrying it wildly around the restaurant on a stretcher, accompanied by the sound of ambulance sirens. Another menu item that was served in a mini pig trough was the "Trough". If the person who ordered it ate the entire sundae, employees would come out banging on a drum, announce the accomplishment to the entire restaurant, and present the customer with either a ribbon or a pinback button that said, "I made a pig of myself at Farrell's!"
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (/+uur) 56
As for the beer, it was Coors. And we had 3.2 beer for the 18-21 crowd. When Olympia came to the store shelves, it was considered "exotic" compared to Coors.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (D/6p1) 57
Howard Johnson's I 'memba.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (sAmhv) 58
no more clam strip sandwiches.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin Try searching for that with safe search off. Posted by: mikeski would not at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (VHUov) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:18 PM (D2ex+) 60
3. A sundress from Zimmerman that made me gasp
I wonder how they got Helen of Troy to model the dress. Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:18 PM (Riz8t) 61
Walkman’s are making a comeback.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:18 PM (XV/Pl) 62
Had a Burger Chef in the big town nearby. I absolutely LOVE hamburgers! Those at BC were NOT good hamburgers. Heck, I may go into the kitchen and make me a good one for a late snack!
Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (Jr+re) 63
Farrells is the one I remember most. The one near me was in Golden Ring Mall, in eastern Baltimore County. There was an arcade next door. Such great times!
I visited the GRM arcade on almost every visit I made to my sister back in the day. My first beer was Piels Real Draft. Think I was 12. Thanks dad... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (nbLIj) Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (/+uur) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (D2ex+) 66
Evening.
Posted by: RandomDave at May 24, 2026 10:20 PM (aJQbY) 67
16:Honorable mention to the A&W chain
I went to one in Illinois way back in the late 80s. Figured it was a midwest thing as I never saw one in my little part of the world (NW PA). It was pretty good! Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:20 PM (sAmhv) 68
When Olympia came to the store shelves, it was considered "exotic" compared to Coors.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (D/6p1) It's the water... and a lot more. Posted by: Whizzing Calvin at May 24, 2026 10:21 PM (1Ff7Z) 69
You have Michelob in the cheap beer picture? Wasn't that Anheisher-Busch's "premium" label?
Yes. The gold foil on the bottle neck was your guarantee of quality beer. More seriously, it was better than the run-of-the-mill piss lager IMO. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:21 PM (vTZFs) 70
I'm watching "The World Wars" on the History Channel.
What is with the History Channel hiring actors who look nothing like the very famous figures they are supposed to represent? Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 10:22 PM (kpS4V) 71
Learned a valuable lesson today, if you’re going to fall, just roll with it and into it.
Also, I ran out of whiskey, In what order did these events happen? Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:22 PM (vTZFs) Posted by: tankdemon at May 24, 2026 10:22 PM (R+wYZ) 73
Piper, is your birthday coming up?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 10:23 PM (tcsrY) 74
I'm watching "The World Wars" on the History Channel.
What is with the History Channel hiring actors who look nothing like the very famous figures they are supposed to represent? Where do you think Christopher Nolan learned his craft? Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (Riz8t) 75
I've heard Fosters described as "Crocodile Done Pee"
Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (gKWVE) 76
I had heard of Howard Johnsons, but never ate there. Never heard of the others. Used to drink Busch lite for summer thirst quencher beer. Only dropped it because of Tranheiser-Busch where InBev decided they wanted to be the beer of trannies rather than people that drank beer. Lately I have largely lost my taste for beer, and mostly for alcohol drinks at all. Probably for the best, I don't need those calories.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (AOl+5) 77
Michelob wasn't cheap beer, it was positioned and priced as a premium beer, in the days before all the micro brews.
Old Milwaukee was a buck and a half for a six-pack at the base exchange, so it was my drink of choice when I was a poor, broke airman. Posted by: a.moron at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (X5Jzz) 78
What is with the History Channel hiring actors who look nothing like the very famous figures they are supposed to represent?
I don't get it. Posted by: C. Nolan at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (vTZFs) Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 10:25 PM (tcsrY) 80
I remember Howard Johnson's, never heard of the rest of those listed.
Posted by: Case at May 24, 2026 10:25 PM (8XBuM) Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:25 PM (/+uur) 82
71 Learned a valuable lesson today, if you’re going to fall, just roll with it and into it.
Also, I ran out of whiskey, In what order did these events happen? Posted by: Oddbob ---- Also put the butt of your hands over your ears and clasp your fingers together on the top of your head. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:25 PM (D2ex+) 83
If youve got the time weve got the beer
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:26 PM (/+uur) 84
If anyone knows featherweight, it's Dan Rather.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (Riz8t) Truth. Nixon laughs... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 10:27 PM (nbLIj) 85
16:Honorable mention to the A&W chain
Frozen mugs for the root beer - curbside, intercom ordered service, trays that hung on the window. The root beer was very good, especially on a hot summer night! Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:27 PM (Jr+re) 86
We're stayin' in a Holiday Inn full of surgeons
I guess they meet there once a year They exchange physician's stories And get drunk on Tuborg beer Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:27 PM (/+uur) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:28 PM (D2ex+) 88
I've heard Fosters described as "Crocodile Done Pee"
Posted by: gKWVE Because of where Fosters for the USA market is actually bottled, I've heard their tagline expanded to "Canadian for Australian for beer, eh?" Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 10:28 PM (VHUov) 89
In Detroit it was Stroh's.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 10:28 PM (kpS4V) 90
I had some Fosters in Hong Kong and it was fabulous.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 10:29 PM (kpS4V) 91
Howdy Sunday ONTers.
I enjoyed watching the coke commercial while listening to Give My Country Back. Posted by: mindful webworker - music to sell cars by at May 24, 2026 10:29 PM (0poB+) Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 10:29 PM (594J6) 93
Been to HoJo's, Farrel's, Burger Chef, Red Barn. Stuckey's is not on the list.
Beers, Fall City, Oertel's '92 Blatz, Stroh's. Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at May 24, 2026 10:30 PM (5f8xl) Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:30 PM (Jr+re) 95
Grain Belt was a good, cheap, green beer. They forgot Old Style too.
Henry’s was a competitor to McDs at least in the midwest. They disappeared as well. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (vATra) 96
Piper, it's been a minute since I looked at the Lady Dior, probably 10 years, but the opening was horrible. Like rooting around in your own Lady Bits, and very hard to get in and out of. I trust they've improved that design. I also didn't like the handles. I did, and still do, love the charms, but I went with YSL's Sac du Jour.
Then again, I chose a Boy Bag over a classic flap, so I'm an outlier! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (Vvh2V) 97
Meisterbrau was the best cheap beer.
Closely followed by Black Label. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 10:29 PM (594J6) There was always Buckhorn. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (1Ff7Z) Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (p4NUW) 99
I remember when the NBA had some balls.
Remember hack-a-Shaq? Remember the bad boys? Remember when Darryl Dawkins and Moses Malone used to get hammered on every play? This product they're pushing is a gambling script. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (D1E+2) 100
Loved Burger Chef and Ferrel's
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 24, 2026 10:33 PM (THY4u) 101
I'm right here ya know.
Posted by: Zombie Billy Carter at May 24, 2026 10:33 PM (vTZFs) 102
White House Communications Director, Steven Cheung had a few words to say about Mike Pompeo:
"Mike Pompeo has no idea what the f*ck he’s talking about. He should shut his stupid mouth and leave the real work to the professionals. He’s not read into anything that’s happening, so how would he know." Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:33 PM (D2ex+) 103
65 We need pics of Piper in that sundress and those
Louboutin shoes. Hot stuff. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal I can share my Venmo to get the dress! 🤣 Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:34 PM (p4NUW) 104
Kind of surprised Rolling Rock didn't make the cut.
33 Also, National Bohemian was the goto college cheap choice for me as well: National Beer, National Beer; We love the taste of our National Beer; And while we're singing we're proud to say; It's brewed on the shores of the Chesapeke Pay. Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 10:35 PM (dIske) 105
@71
>> In what order did these events happen? The falling happened before the whiskey at a Target which was not fun. Luckily I didn’t run out of gin, so things aren’t all bad. Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:35 PM (XV/Pl) 106
Howard Johnson's and Busch.
Posted by: Al Shabbah at May 24, 2026 10:35 PM (U4W41) 107
White House Communications Director, Steven Cheung had a few words to say about Mike Pompeo:
"Mike Pompeo has no idea what the f*ck he’s talking about. He should shut his stupid mouth and leave the real work to the professionals. He’s not read into anything that’s happening, so how would he know." Posted by: Braenyard That was not the Pompeotus of love. Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 10:35 PM (VHUov) 108
We're stayin' in a Holiday Inn full of surgeons
I guess they meet there once a year They exchange physician's stories And get drunk on Tuborg beer I know I've heard this song before, but I can't place it. A little help, please. Posted by: Rhubarb at May 24, 2026 10:36 PM (kc0fx) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 10:36 PM (3ek7K) Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:37 PM (/+uur) 111
Is Christopher Nolan paying Lupita two salaries since she is playing Helen and Clytemnestra?
Or is he just paying her one salary? Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 10:37 PM (2GVsD) 112
All of those beers are great... for target practice.
Probably the most I have ever vomited was from drinking too much Oly (Olympia Beer) when I was a freshman in college. I think I had like 10 or 12 of 'em and I weighed about 150#. Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 24, 2026 10:37 PM (THY4u) 113
Fosters tastes like a slightly hoppier Coors Light.
But why would anyone drink beer or a beer that’s not at least a stout, a Weiss or ipa? Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (XV/Pl) Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (RIvkX) 115
108 We're stayin' in a Holiday Inn full of surgeons
I guess they meet there once a year They exchange physician's stories And get drunk on Tuborg beer I know I've heard this song before, but I can't place it. A little help, please. Posted by: Rhubarb at May 24, 2026 10:36 PM (kc0fx) Jimmy Buffet, maybe? Posted by: a.moron at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (X5Jzz) 116
Oh, I remember "Red Barn". I seem to recall that they had pretty good fried chicken...but it wasn't their specialty. I think they pushed burgers. The chicken was a bonus.
Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (dIske) 117
So, are we preparing for tomorrow's infamous ONT? Are we allowed to be naughty for Old Time's Sake?
Is there anyone left who even knows what I'm talking about? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (Vvh2V) 118
proper perspective — first thing that's really made me kinda misty-eyed this weekend.
Posted by: mindful webworker - red and white blues at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (0poB+) 119
I'm watching "The World Wars" on the History Channel.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes ...... Me too. Trenches, mustard gas and tanks. Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (oq9dX) 120
Is Christopher Nolan paying Lupita two salaries since she is playing Helen and Clytemnestra?
Clytemnestra sounds like a species of Australian spider. Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (Riz8t) 121
Probably tried most of the beers on the post but grew up with Narragansett beer as the local libation. That beer, coffee ice cream, and coffee milk were required in the Rhode Island state charter.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (yTvNw) 122
47 I just stumbled across a wild Reddit thread, specifically on the Seattle group. The post was about how Meta layoffs are hitting H1-B workers from India especially hard; all these guest workers who have brought over their families and put their kids in local schools are now panicking about being made to go back in the next few months.
What makes it wild is the comments section. Again, this is Reddit we're talking about; and Seattle is, well, Seattle. And yet, the comments were basically telling these immigrants to piss off. Among the juicier responses were "drop these anchor baby scams"; "They're so entitled they make actual Americans look humble"; "Prioritize jobs for US citizens"; and "put the temporary back in temporary work visas." If we're seeing this kind of sentiment even among Seattle users of Reddit...eh, maybe there's hope for the country after all. Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (jGGMD) It makes Seattle almost sound MAGA. Posted by: Joemarine at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (y171U) 123
Probably the most I have ever vomited was from drinking too much Oly (Olympia Beer) when I was a freshman in college. I think I had like 10 or 12 of 'em and I weighed about 150#.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 24, 2026 10:37 PM (THY4u) Lightweight. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (594J6) 124
Dad was a big Buffet fan. I've probably absorbed his entire catalog by osmosis. Thanks.
Posted by: Rhubarb at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (kc0fx) 125
Yes, Stroh's. My dad and his brothers grew up in Detroit, and that was the beer everyone drank. I think Stroh's still has a brewery in the city.
Posted by: Lirio100 at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (ky7/T) 126
Andrew McCarthy got a lot of nice photos and videos of the Starship launch the other day. The massive shockwaves (changing the index of refraction of the air) are visible here: t.ly/8mtLN His main page there has a lot more. IIRC, the lethal range for a Saturn V was about 800'. Within that radius, the shockwaves would be enough to kill you. I think that's greater for Starship. Of course, the minimum safe distance is a lot greater than that, that's just the lethal shockwave distance. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (w6EFb) 127
96 Piper, it's been a minute since I looked at the Lady Dior, probably 10 years, but the opening was horrible. Like rooting around in your own Lady Bits, and very hard to get in and out of. I trust they've improved that design. I also didn't like the handles. I did, and still do, love the charms, but I went with YSL's Sac du Jour.
Then again, I chose a Boy Bag over a classic flap, so I'm an outlier! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May I honestly don’t think this will be the year I get a Lady Dior. I did get a Unity bag- but it’s first edition so I don’t think I will carry it. It’s not quite the same league, of course. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (p4NUW) Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (Jr+re) 129
61 Walkman’s are making a comeback.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:18 PM (XV/Pl) I thought the term was "rewind." 😉 Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (rgnea) 130
Stroh's was our go to cheap beer growing up in Cleveland.
I seem to recall Michelob was expensive. I remember going to Horn and Hardardt's when we went the the Worlds Fair in NYC back in '64. I may have memories of the place from living in Philly prior to that, but definitely the '64 WF. There was an active HoJo's in Buffalo when I moved here back in 1980. It was closed some time in the 90's. The last active one was in Lake George ... but it's been closed now for a few years. Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (3sXRv) 131
If we're seeing this kind of sentiment even among Seattle users of Reddit...eh, maybe there's hope for the country after all.
Posted by: Dr. T This is typical of the liberals I know. They think liberal policies are wonderful, until they negatively affect their own lives. As I've said before, the liberals I know, including members of my own family, just happen to live in the whitest suburbs they can find. Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (0Htd1) 132
Clytemnestra sounds like a species of Australian spider.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (Riz8t) Or Salutatorian at MLK Jr 5th Grade Graduation Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (/+uur) 133
I like those slingback sandals and had no idea what they were called.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (RIvkX) 134
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I was thinking of Grain Belt, but I figured nobody here would remember it but me. It really wasn't very GOOD, you know. Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (RCjYY) 135
Americana at its very best
I have a theory about this - that back during the cold war America's elites felt they had to keep the corruption to a manageable level because they had real opponents and if they screwed up badly enough they could have gotten the Che Guevara treatment. But when the Soviets felt that evaporated. Since the US was the only hyperpower...why not dip your hand in the till? Ruling the world is hard work and no one will notice... And then 30 years later you have the Biden junta stealing $4T and no one really batted an eye. Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (sKqQm) 136
Iron City beer is one of those they should have paid people to drink. Probably the worst lager beer ever made.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (yTvNw) 137
107 White House Communications Director, Steven Cheung had a few words to say about Mike Pompeo:
"Mike Pompeo has no idea what the f*ck he’s talking about. He should shut his stupid mouth and leave the real work to the professionals. He’s not read into anything that’s happening, so how would he know." Posted by: Braenyard _______________________________ Cheung, in his capacity as Com. Dir doesn't give public statements like this very often. BUT every single one I've seen had profanity included. He must be hilarious around the White House. The man doesn't sugar coat it. Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (dIske) 138
Andrew McCarthy got a lot of nice photos and videos of the Starship launch the other day. The massive shockwaves (changing the index of refraction of the air) are visible here:
t.ly/8mtLN That's the coolest thing I expect to see this week. Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (Riz8t) 139
Just noticed that the beer list is missing Rainier.
Not a forgivable omission, considering the old Rainier Beer commercials: https://tinyurl.com/33kczef3 Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (yO07m) 140
More cheap beer memories: Stegmaier, from Wilkes-Barre, PA. Whenever dad saw it on sale for 4.99 a case, he'd stock up. Liebotschaner Cream Ale, also out of W-B and went for about 6.99/case. If dad felt flush, he'd spring for that. Then there was Yuengling Porter. My first dark beer, unless you counted the Pabst Bock, which was a seasonal, and I wasn't old enough to handle a 12 oz on my own and had to make do with occasional sips from dad's pilsner glass. Again, thanks dad...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (nbLIj) Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (oq9dX) 142
Happy birthday, Piper!
Finally old enough to legally drink, yeah? Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (eZ5tL) 143
I remember going to Horn and Hardardt's when we went the the Worlds Fair in NYC back in '64.
browndog, that's exactly when/where I ate at Horn and Hardart's! Just a kid, with a bunch of Boy Scouts headed to the National Jamboree at Valley Forge. Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:44 PM (Jr+re) 144
132 Clytemnestra sounds like a species of Australian spider.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (Riz8t) ______________________ I thought maybe a Crime Cartel named after women's anatomy. Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 10:44 PM (dIske) 145
This is typical of the liberals I know. They think liberal policies are wonderful, until they negatively affect their own lives. As I've said before, the liberals I know, including members of my own family, just happen to live in the whitest suburbs they can find.
Things wealthy leftist people I know complain about: Their taxes are too high Black people have too many damn kids Young men are supposed to give up their seats for a "lady" All these people on the roads should be taking public transit so it doesn't take so long for me to get where I am going Why aren't there more minorities in our neighborhood (note they moved to neighbor a few years ago "for the schools") Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (sKqQm) 146
93 Been to HoJo's, Farrel's, Burger Chef, Red Barn. Stuckey's is not on the list.
Beers, Fall City, Oertel's '92 Blatz, Stroh's. Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at May 24, 2026 10:30 PM (5f8xl) NOT THE STROH'S! Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (DwqWV) 147
PBR, $1.80 per six pack 1966
Posted by: Javems at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (zFsEm) 148
What's "White Tower"?
A White Castle copy cat? Vice versa? Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (/lPRQ) 149
136 Iron City beer is one of those they should have paid people to drink. Probably the worst lager beer ever made.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (yTvNw) ************ Second worst. Samichlaus is worse. Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (yO07m) 150
116 Oh, I remember "Red Barn".
--- You jogged my memory. It was out on the highway (roadtrip), not close to anything, terrible location, would not have known it was there except for its size. Food wasn't bad. Terrible location. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (D2ex+) 151
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Piper, Is that really your birthday wish list? Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 Yes, as I noted it’s my very mature, very reasonable birthday wishlist. 🤣 Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (p4NUW) 152
104 Kind of surprised Rolling Rock didn't make the cut.
33 Rolling Rock was drinkable when it was still brewed in Latrobe, PA. Anheuser/Busch bought it, moved operations to St. Louis and I don't know what the hell they did with it, but the last time I tried to drink it, it was awful. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (sAmhv) 153
Yeah Michelob and Lowenbrau were a little more expensive and not ordinarily chosen when quantities desired were maximized
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (vATra) 154
The Bicentennial Coke commercial got me the thinking about the Tall Ship parade in NY Harbor for that Birthday. First hit that come up for "Operation Sail" on YT and there in plain sight and still standing 25 years ago are the Twin Towers. Too much has changed.
https://youtu.be/nppINIM3fEI? Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (rgnea) Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM (1Ff7Z) 156
OK, here is a fashion question.
I'm fairly thin and I have no hips. So when I buy jeans invariably they get loose after a couple of washes and while I can always use a belt its not the most comfortable thing in the world. Am I just buying crappy brands of jeans? Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM (sKqQm) 157
/sock and goodnight.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM (vTZFs) 158
Root beer float!
Posted by: vmom deport I still make floats sometimes. You can also make them with grape pop. Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (0Htd1) 159
browndog, that's exactly when/where I ate at Horn and Hardart's! Just a kid, with a bunch of Boy Scouts headed to the National Jamboree at Valley Forge.
Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:44 PM (Jr+re) I thought H&H was a nifty operation. Along with my father, and brothers, we took the train from Philly up to NYC. Wish I could remember whether we came into the old Penn Station, or Grand Central. I remember the Cherry Pie to this day ... Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (3sXRv) 160
1985 in NoVa, Schmidt was the go-to. It sucked but it was $1.50/6 and when you're 17, that's what matters.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (W5mpo) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (D2ex+) 162
Heilmans Special Ex was 109 or 119 a six in Austin in 1981.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (/+uur) 163
Beer has to be handled correctly too. Even cheap watered down lagers will not benefit from sitting on a loading dock in the sun for a week or back of a truck or something.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (vATra) 164
142 Happy birthday, Piper!
Finally old enough to legally drink, yeah? Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 10: Yes, but if you missed last night’s ONT, it was a reminder why I don’t. 2 glasses of wine with dinner and I was prepared to tell anybody anything! And then I just went to bed. Very sad. lol. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (p4NUW) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (3ek7K) 166
I remember the Cherry Pie to this day ...
Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (3sXRv) ... Posted by: Warrant at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (gKWVE) 167
Evening, Doof, Piper, and ONT Horde!
House is hot, except for the air-conditioned rooms. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 10:49 PM (8zz6B) 168
I still make floats sometimes. You can also make them with grape pop.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 If you make it with grape coke, it’s a purple cow. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:49 PM (p4NUW) 169
I didn't see Lucky Lager or Rainier or Olympia beer on that chart. I know my cheap beers, though they may have been mostly regional. Weekends of a misspent youth.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (D1E+2) 170
Frozen mugs for the root beer - curbside, intercom ordered service, trays that hung on the window. The root beer was very good, especially on a hot summer night!
Posted by: LRob in OK When I drink beer, I put a glass mug in the freezer. Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (0Htd1) 171
It sounds like the Greeks would like a few sharp words with Christopher Nolan about his casting choices - no Greeks in a movie about Greeks.
I suspect they'll have some cutting words if he ever visits. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (qx7Zg) 172
Farrell's was sponsored by Big Diabetes
Not that a Zoo wasn't tasty AF Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (W5mpo) 173
Am I just buying crappy brands of jeans?
Posted by: 18-1 -- No, you're paying too much. Buy cheap jeans and they will shrink on you. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (D2ex+) 174
Has anyone mentioned Weideman yet. Or Old Style.
Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (QMAsf) 175
Evening Doof! Old Mil Light was the go-to beverage of my misspent youth....
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (kOluj) 176
Have had fair experiences with the HoJo's, but my most memorable experience was in college days, a friend and I on a long drive, stopped for a late lunch at a HoJo's.
The two of us were the only customers in the place. We sat down and the counter and were just talking. We waited. And waited, for the one waitress to finally come and take our order. When she did come up to us, she practically sneered something like, if you boys had been better (we were doing nothing wrong), she'd have come to take our order sooner. No idea what her problem was. My friend, with the friendliest smile, twinkling eyes, and bright voice, looked her in the face and said, "Oh, that's all right, ma'am. We like bad service." Shut her up good. I think our burgers arrived unadulterated. Posted by: mindful webworker - classic memory at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (0poB+) 177
152 104 Kind of surprised Rolling Rock didn't make the cut.
33 Rolling Rock was drinkable when it was still brewed in Latrobe, PA. Anheuser/Busch bought it, moved operations to St. Louis and I don't know what the hell they did with it, but the last time I tried to drink it, it was awful. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (sAmhv) I used to date a young lass, whose dad maintained a fridge soley for the purpose of chilling cases of Old Latrobe, and kept frozen crystal mugs in the upper freezer. Many was the night I stumbled back home ... Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:51 PM (3sXRv) 178
165
My birthday list has one item. A day off from cleaning up the dog shit in the yard. Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 10 My dog won’t go to the bathroom in the yard. It’s too close to the house and therefore not appropriate in the rules according to Shibas. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:51 PM (p4NUW) 179
Beer has to be handled correctly too.
Toured the Coors brewery early 70s. They told all of us to never buy Coors not refrigerated. They didn't (then) pasteurize their beer and it went south pretty fast if warmed. Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:51 PM (Jr+re) 180
Yes, as I noted it’s my very mature, very reasonable birthday wishlist. 🤣
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (p4NUW) I got my eyes fixed this year, so now I have a bunch of lovely cheap sunglasses--all cat eyes, all in obnoxious colors, including one that's black with white polka dots--and a pile of cheap cheaters, likewise cat eyes, one pink, one green. With chains. Likewise, very mature, very reasonable, and one hell of a lot of fun. I had blue cat-eye glasses in 2nd grade and I never got over those, I suppose. Stylish is just as functional as... well... functional. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10:52 PM (DwqWV) 181
62 Had a Burger Chef in the big town nearby. I absolutely LOVE hamburgers! Those at BC were NOT good hamburgers. Heck, I may go into the kitchen and make me a good one for a late snack!
Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (Jr+re) --- I grew up a few blocks from a Burger Chef and thought their burgers and fries were great. I ate at a different BC across town (Louisville) one time and the burger was way overcooked and had no seasoning and it was dry as hell. I think it depends on the franchise owner. They definitely didn't have the same quality control across franchises like McDonald's does. Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 24, 2026 10:52 PM (THY4u) 182
Agamemnon should have read the warning label - Do not take Clytemnestra if Clytemnestra is not for you.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 10:52 PM (2GVsD) 183
Let it be Lowenbrau
Translates to roughly the low gal, the cheap whore Save the bucks as you dick dont know the diff. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:53 PM (/+uur) 184
89 In Detroit it was Stroh's.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes Back in the seventies, I went on a " factory tour" of Stroh's in Detroit. You didn't even have to go on the tour. They just took you to a hospitality room where you were given free beer and sandwiches, and watched Stroh's commercials. Best factory tour evah. Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:53 PM (0Htd1) 185
172 Farrell's was sponsored by Big Diabetes
Not that a Zoo wasn't tasty AF Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (W5mpo) I think most of my cousins worked at Farrell's, so of course, we had to go there to support them when we were in Seattle... at least, I think that was the excuse. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10:54 PM (DwqWV) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (ndZc7) 187
Yes, Stroh's. My dad and his brothers grew up in Detroit, and that was the beer everyone drank. I think Stroh's still has a brewery in the city.
Posted by: Lirio100 Beechwood Aged Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (/lPRQ) 188
No love for Stag beer? It’s as if I don’t know you people any more.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (ZTJjv) 189
... Beechwood Aged
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (/lPRQ) ***coughBudweisercough*** Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:56 PM (3sXRv) Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:56 PM (Jr+re) 191
Avs going down in flames
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 10:57 PM (ZxPkt) 192
Can Mamdani fix NYC?
https://tinyurl.com/3kw7zf5r https://tinyurl.com/4f5efdme Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (ndZc7) He's going to spay or neuter every New Yorker? Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 10:57 PM (qx7Zg) Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 10:57 PM (CHHv1) 194
Best factory tour evah.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:53 PM (0Htd1) Went to Wash U in StL. Did the Anheiser Busch tour repeatedly. They have cool pretzels in the shape of the Anheiser "A", and all the beer you can put down in about 15 minutes. Plus, Clydesdales and Dalmatian puppies, and a really high wooden moving staircase. Pre-Escalator, I believe. Anyway, it's a very cool tour and lots of free beer. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10:57 PM (DwqWV) Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:58 PM (Jr+re) 196
Primo
Hawaiian Beer starts with P Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:58 PM (/+uur) 197
I don't even know what the brand of beer we drank in college was. Both the Oar House and Papa Joe's had draft beer so cheap you could get a bucket of beer for $4.
Not a bucket full of bottled beer. No. Rather a real bucket full of beer. After my freshman year they no longer served any drinks in glass pitchers. Someone, I won't say who, learned those dumbasses that one could use it as a weapon. Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2026 10:58 PM (vhPr1) 198
Farrell's has a tragic claim to fame.
Back in 1971, a civilian owned Canadair Sabre failed to get airborne at Sacramento airport, skipped over the perimeter road, crashed into a shopping center parking lot, and ploughed into a Farrell's ice cream shop full of parents and kids. Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (2GVsD) 199
There is Four Xs in Austrailia
XXXX is Australian for BEER Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (/+uur) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (D2ex+) 201
Mickeys Big Mouth
Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (oq9dX) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (D2ex+) 203
Walkman’s are making a comeback.
Posted by: Thomas Bender For heaven's sake, why? With what? Cassettes? Cell with wireless headphones is all you need. Your own saved playlist, or infinite sources online. Posted by: mindful webworker - what is this, 1980s? at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (0poB+) 204
It isn't American, but the worst and cheapest beer I ever encountered was San Miguel in Spain. They used formaldehyde as a preservative! It was bad.
Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (Jr+re) 205
156 OK, here is a fashion question.
I'm fairly thin and I have no hips. So when I buy jeans invariably they get loose after a couple of washes and while I can always use a belt its not the most comfortable thing in the world. Am I just buying crappy brands of jeans? Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM Jeans bagging out can be a problem, especially jeans with stretch, but you might be buying them too big to start. If you can handle the break in, find 100% cotton, like zero stretch at all, in the slimmest fit you can handle. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (p4NUW) 206
I still make floats sometimes. You can also make them with grape pop.
Posted by: nerdygirl If you make it with grape coke, it’s a purple cow. Posted by: Piper Translation note for Northerners: that's "grape soda" or "grape pop." I don't think coca-cola comes in grape. Posted by: The Narrator at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (VHUov) 207
Like Queers For Palestine and Chickens For the Colonel.
Bernie Sanders @BernieSanders On our way to Bangor, Maine for a rally with @grahamformaine. The crises facing our country are too serious for establishment politics and tinkering around the edges. We need candidates like Graham who will take on the greed of the oligarchs and deliver for working families. - "Nazi Schmazi," Bernie explained. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 11:01 PM (ndZc7) 208
It isn't American, but the worst and cheapest beer I ever encountered was San Miguel in Spain. They used formaldehyde as a preservative! It was bad.
So that is where the Dominican Republic stole the recipe for their El Presidente beer. Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 11:01 PM (2GVsD) 209
200 Sometimes one thinks, one asks oneself, where is Taylor Lorenz brain?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal As my Mexican nanny used to say, it has fallen out of her face. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:01 PM (p4NUW) 210
ploughed into a Farrell's ice cream shop full of parents and kids.
I'd forgotten that one. Was stationed in Sacto a few years later and saw the empty place where the joint HAD been. Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 11:01 PM (Jr+re) 211
Thank you, narrator!
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:02 PM (p4NUW) 212
When we floated the Yellowstone river we would load up on Schmidt Animal beer. There was no reason to buy anything better as more often than not you had to put your beer down as you hit the rapids. In the ensuing run through the rapids, the beer spilled or fell to the bottom of the raft. Though, sometimes the river water improved the taste.
Posted by: Beartooth at May 24, 2026 11:02 PM (IYeV+) 213
201 Mickeys Big Mouth
Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (oq9dX) Mickey's WIDE Mouth. A college beer staple. How many drunken asshats cut themselves on the pull-lids? Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:02 PM (DwqWV) 214
Oh, I remember "Red Barn".
--- You jogged my memory. It was out on the highway (roadtrip), not close to anything, terrible location, would not have known it was there except for its size. Food wasn't bad. Terrible location. Posted by: Braenyard == The Red Barn in Van Rapids Michigan was an indoor adult movie theater. Same architecture so may have been the restaurant in a previous life. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:02 PM (/lPRQ) 215
If anyone is still interested in my washer issues, I was just about ready to tear into it, and decided to try running it, and it is running just fine. I can't make it fault out, or stop running.
I ran a hose and a power cord to the back yard and ran three loads of laundry. Couldn't make it not work. Since it is already in the back yard, I plan to strip the cabinet off it and strip and repaint the rusty area around the bleach well tomorrow. It might be the electro-mechanical timer. It is the one part that could mean an intermittent fault. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (rbvCR) 216
“ I have commanded those I prepared for battle; I have summoned my warriors to carry out my wrath— those who rejoice in my triumph.”
Isaiah 13.3 Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (hZXic) 217
Sometimes one thinks, one asks oneself, where is Taylor Lorenz brain?
Posted by: Braenyard Mickeys Big Mouth Posted by: wth ----- Sometimes the jokes just write themselves. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg) 218
We called OB beer off base in Korea during the early 70s “tree frog beer” as it tasted so green.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (ZTJjv) 219
Credence Clearwater Revival took the "clear water" slogan from Olympia Beer for part of their name.
Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (rgnea) 220
The beers are biased toward the Northeast and Midwest. Missing are such brands as Rainier, Olympia, Coors, Lone Star, and Henry Weinhart's.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at May 24, 2026 11:04 PM (7Lzky) 221
Let's see. Farrell's had really good ice cream although Milwaukee Custard was better. I remember they had signs asking people not to smoke since it would effect the taste of the ice cream. My dad was a big fan of Lum's patty melts and onion rings. HoJo's was a very occasional family treat. I miss Red Barn. Their chicken was decent and they had a great all you can eat salad bar and it was inexpensive for the quality. Burger Chef was just another fast food burger place, nothing special.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 11:04 PM (yTvNw) 222
Translation note for Northerners: that's "grape soda" or "grape pop." I don't think coca-cola comes in grape.
Posted by: The Narrator at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (VHUov) I, like an idiot, tried to order a "pop" passing through the Atlanta airport. I think I got the "bless yer heart" look in response. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:04 PM (DwqWV) 223
I'm not quite as 29 as some of y'all. The cheap shit beers of my youth were Keystone and Icehouse.
Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:05 PM (VHUov) 224
I got my eyes fixed this year, so now I have a bunch of lovely cheap sunglasses--all cat eyes, all in obnoxious colors, including one that's black with white polka dots--and a pile of cheap cheaters, likewise cat eyes, one pink, one green. With chains. Likewise, very mature, very reasonable, and one hell of a lot of fun.
I had blue cat-eye glasses in 2nd grade and I never got over those, I suppose. Stylish is just as functional as... well... functional. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10 I love this! Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:05 PM (p4NUW) 225
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The Red Barn in Van Rapids Michigan was an indoor adult movie theater. Same architecture so may have been the restaurant in a previous life. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher --- Did it have a Green Door? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:06 PM (D2ex+) Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 11:06 PM (oq9dX) 227
“ But the Lord is with me like a mighty warrior; so my persecutors will stumble and not prevail. They will fail and be thoroughly disgraced; their dishonor will never be forgotten.”
Jeremiah 20:11 Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2026 11:06 PM (hZXic) 228
Heidelberg! 🍻
Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (rgnea) 229
I love the polite but firm way the White House is dealing with the ceasefire critics:
"Shut your whore mouth!" about covers it, right? Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (RCjYY) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (ndZc7) 231
Ted Drewes Frozen Custard in St Louis has, by far, the best frozen custard anywhere, but I would certainly settle for Culver's, particularly if I get it in Sauk Prairie, WI at the mothership.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (DwqWV) 232
> Farrell's was sponsored by Big Diabetes
Not that a Zoo wasn't tasty AF ----- Hot fudge nutty-nutty. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (jehhT) 233
Buckhorn beer. We found a 6er in a river after a 10 mile hike and we decided to drink it. Don't know how long it was there, but we managed to choke down most of it because we were thirsty.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (D1E+2) 234
tcn, we called just about any soft drink other than Coca Cola pop here in Oklahoma, especially fruit flavored stuff. Got blank stares in Georgia later - but no Bless Yer Heart look!
Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (Jr+re) 235
Re those enormous shockwaves. Damping those is the main purpose of the water deluge system. I remember as a little kid back in the Apollo days, the water deluge was explained as protecting the pad from the intense heat of the rocket flame plume and blast. It does that, but that "direct fire heat" is not the majority. The majority comes from the shockwaves, which is why they call it the "sound suppression system" sometimes. It's enough to flash water to steam right there. Just imagine "sound" that powerful. Enough energy to flash water to steam. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (w6EFb) 236
Avs going down in flames
Posted by: Don Black What the heck happened? After they stomped a mudhole in my Wild, I figured they were already engraving names on the Cup. Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (VHUov) 237
Mrs. MKC and I both loved Michelob Light. Extremely drinkable for a national brand. Bastards did away with it during the plandemic.
Another reason Fauci needs to meet up with a the business end of a silage cutter.... Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (kOluj) 238
IF I had been paying attention to Christopher Nolan last year, I would have known his butchering of The Odyssey was a foregone conclusion.
Found a video from a year ago on YouTube, Nolan paid to have shipped from Norway to Greece a Viking longship. Wouldn't it have been cheaper just to pay the Greeks to build a Mycenean warship of the time of the Iliad? Authenticity schmaltzticity. Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (2GVsD) 239
I'm not quite as 29 as some of y'all. The cheap shit beers of my youth were Keystone and Icehouse.
Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:05 PM (VHUov) Icehouse was pretty good. I remember Red Dog aground the same time. Were they related? Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:09 PM (QMAsf) 240
219 Credence Clearwater Revival took the "clear water" slogan from Olympia Beer for part of their name.
Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (rgnea) "It's the water.... and a lot more." They never said what the lot more consisted of, but I have my guess. Also, nothing wrong with Henry Weinhart. Plus they made a damned fine cream soda. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:10 PM (DwqWV) 241
The Red Barn in Van Rapids Michigan was an indoor adult movie theater. Same architecture so may have been the restaurant in a previous life.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher --- Did it have a Green Door? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:06 PM (D2ex+ Did it have Feel-Around? https://youtu.be/rjm_zmBoxjw Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:10 PM (qx7Zg) 242
Anna, it's worse. The Greeks paid Nolan 6.5 million euros to produce the Odyssey for national representation.
Metatron is livid Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:11 PM (gKWVE) 243
We didn't have a HoJos close so the only time we ate there was during our annual summer trip east via the Penna Turnpike. HoJos had to food concession at the rest plazas then. They always rolled their eyes at having to seat the 10 of us.
Once, we accidently left little Martha behind and Mom and Dad knew something was wrong but didn't figure it out for ten minutes or so after we were back on the road. Dad pulled a Uooie, you could do that then, and we headed back to retrieve her. I still remember pulling up to her sitting on the curb in front of the restaurant with a VERY pissed off PA State Trooper. Good times. Good times. Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2026 11:12 PM (vhPr1) 244
Buckhorn beer. We found a 6er in a river after a 10 mile hike and we decided to drink it. Don't know how long it was there, but we managed to choke down most of it because we were thirsty.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone ...... That's some quality beer that got tossed in the river! Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 11:12 PM (oq9dX) 245
I'm not quite as 29 as some of y'all. The cheap shit beers of my youth were Keystone and Icehouse.
Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:05 PM (VHUov) Icehouse was pretty good. I remember Red Dog aground the same time. Were they related? Posted by: Doof I forgot Red Dog. It and Icehouse were both Miller products. Supposedly a notch above the cheapo labels, but not really. Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:12 PM (VHUov) 246
Red Dog was terrible.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (gKWVE) 247
Also, nothing wrong with Henry Weinhart. Plus they made a damned fine cream soda.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:10 PM (DwqWV) Henry's folded but has been brewed under license thru a Eugene Oregon Brewer, Hop Valley. I still grab some from time to time. I really miss Henry's Dark tho. Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (rgnea) 248
I wonder if Greece can charge Nolan with theft and cultural vandalism. I want Interpol to issue a red notice on him.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (2GVsD) 249
What the heck happened? After they stomped a mudhole in my Wild, I figured they were already engraving names on the Cup.
Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (VHUov) There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (1Ff7Z) 250
Mickey's WIDE Mouth. A college beer staple. How many drunken asshats cut themselves on the pull-lids?
Posted by: tcn in AK The lid comes all the way off the bottle before you put your lips to it to drink. / legal notice Now I know why they switched to twist-offs. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (/lPRQ) 251
Translation note for Northerners: that's "grape soda" or "grape pop." I don't think coca-cola comes in grape.
Posted by: The Narrator Calling "pop" "soda" just sounds pretentious to me. I would feel like I had to hold my pinky out when I drank it. Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (0Htd1) 252
Red Dog was terrible.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (gKWVE) Nor terrible. Sufficiently whelming. Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (QMAsf) 253
I actually read a book once about the Strohs' beer family owners.
It wasn't that long ago-- remember the Swedish Bikini Team parody commercial (all gay guys) on SNL? That was a Strohs ad. John Candy was in the parody commercial. Anyway, Anheuser-Busch tried to buy Strohs out. The Strohs owners decided to duke it out with AB, instead... with predictable results. A LOT of these nostalgia beers we're discussing tonight were not nimble enough to work around (& survive) the brewery industry's yuuge consolidation. Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:16 PM (RCjYY) 254
>>>That's some quality beer that got tossed in the river!
Posted by: wth >Most likely it was the victim of a boat wreck and it washed up near shore. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 11:17 PM (D1E+2) 255
If that Pup & Taco roof were extended to the ground, it would pass for Der Weinerschnitzel.
When I resided briefly (but not briefly enough) in Little Rock, I alternated between the Roy Rogers RB place and a burger chain called Minuteman. I think RR may still have a restaurant somewhere. Probably not Minuteman. I couldn't really afford to go out to eat much, but had to do something to get out of my dark, stuffy closet of a residence. Another classy memory: I was sitting on the hood of my car in the parking lot of one of those places, eating my food and reading some SF paperback. A cop pulled up to talk to me; said he'd had a report of some kid "freaking out" in the parking lot. I said, yeah, sitting here reading a book probably seems like freaking out to some folks. The cop and I chatted a bit. I looked at the seal on the car door and read the Latin logo, "Populus Regnat," I read, "The people rule." "Is that what it means?" asks the cop. Yeah, I said. He sourly replied, "Not anymore they don't." And off he went. Posted by: mindful webworker - and that was back in the better olde days at May 24, 2026 11:17 PM (0poB+) 256
I would feel like I had to hold my pinky out when I drank it.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (0Htd1) Pop was a luxury item in our house growing up, brother and I got to share one can of orange or grape pop on the last day of school, assuming we got good grades. Also, the occasional float for dessert if Dad was in the mood for one. Now it's ubiquitous, which is a shame. It used to be quite the treat. I can't have it any more, so I guess it's back to being a rare treat, so that's okay. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:18 PM (DwqWV) 257
Soda fountain and soda jerk. Not pop fountain or pop jerk.
Although I do recall a soda called Drink Me Pop. Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:18 PM (QMAsf) 258
yayyy there's an honest trailer for Ryan Gosling Saves The Galaxy
youtu.be/QurZzARCihA Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:19 PM (gKWVE) 259
Icehouse was fine. It worked. And by "worked" I mean it killed all sensory input and allowed calmness (before the vomiting).
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 11:20 PM (CHHv1) 260
252 Red Dog was terrible.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (gKWVE) Nor terrible. Sufficiently whelming. Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM *** Red Dog was at least whelming. Not terrible at that price point. Nice to see it remembered here. Posted by: TRex - Red Dog drinker dino at May 24, 2026 11:20 PM (IQ6Gq) 261
A few of us, mostly former service members, went out to the cemetery in my hometown Friday afternoon. Placed US flags alongside all the veteran's graves. As may be typical for smaller, middle America towns, there are a lot of flags up for tomorrow's Memorial Day service. There are two tombstones with names and dates for two WW2 men who didn't come home and their bodies are in the ocean. Each year at this time I remember that my dad and his fellow soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors just didn't talk about those times often. It's a serious date here.
That's all for me tonight. I'll tune in again tomorrow to see what happens! Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 11:20 PM (Jr+re) 262
203 Walkman’s are making a comeback.
Posted by: Thomas Bender For heaven's sake, why? With what? Cassettes? Cell with wireless headphones is all you need. Your own saved playlist, or infinite sources online. Posted by: mindful webworker - what is this, 1980s? at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (0poB+) --------- I'm waiting for wax tubes to come back. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:21 PM (u/oMr) 263
I ran a hose and a power cord to the back yard and ran three loads of laundry. Couldn't make it not work.
Since it is already in the back yard, I plan to strip the cabinet off it and strip and repaint the rusty area around the bleach well tomorrow. It might be the electro-mechanical timer. It is the one part that could mean an intermittent fault. Posted by: Kindltot === Show some class and put in the front yard. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (/lPRQ) 264
Henry's folded but has been brewed under license thru a Eugene Oregon Brewer, Hop Valley. I still grab some from time to time. I really miss Henry's Dark tho.
Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (rgnea) Henry's makes my go to root beer. Though I use A&W for my floats. Grandkids absolutely love the cream sodas. They make a point of raiding the fridge for them when they come over. Posted by: Beartooth at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (IYeV+) 265
And every once in a while, the jumbo oil can known as Fosters.
Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (rgnea) 266
So we were promised some earth-shattering event this weekend? What happened? Except the Avs are now down 3 games to none against Vegas. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (HdYcL) 267
248 I wonder if Greece can charge Nolan with theft and cultural vandalism. I want Interpol to issue a red notice on him.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (2GVsD) I want them to put him through the agoge Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 11:23 PM (xcxpd) 268
Duff beer deserves a mention!
Posted by: TRex - duffman dino at May 24, 2026 11:23 PM (IQ6Gq) 269
Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:51 PM (3sXRv)
______________________ Coolest thing about Rolling Rock was the large number 33 stamped on every bottle. There were all kinds of theories as to what it meant. They finally admitted that the guy designing the bottle screwed up way back in 1939. It was his margin notes and it was mistaken for part of the design....(something to do with font size). As Rolling Rock used returnable bottles...the "33" endured. And, eventually they just made it part of their modern lables. People came up with all kinds of outlandish rationailizations including 1933 (end of prohibition), 33 words total on the side of the bottle. 33 steps to the brewmaster's office from the brewery....etc. Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 11:23 PM (dIske) 270
soda pop is what it is
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:24 PM (D2ex+) 271
Schlitz was the #1 beer in American for decades. It was really good.
Posted by: Happy at May 24, 2026 11:24 PM (iiHzL) 272
OK, so every mass-produced beer in the US is awful. That's all I get told. Are mass-produced foreign beers any better? Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 11:24 PM (HdYcL) 273
Did anybody mention Hamms-- from The Land of Sky Blue Waters? Hamms the beer refreshing.
Hamms used to sponsor about half the major sports events on TV, as I recall. Anybody remember. St. Louis' own Griesedieck Beer? Pronounced "Greasy Dick"? According to Wiki, Griesedieck Brewery still exists... but I haven't seen one of their branded beers in at least 40 years. Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:25 PM (RCjYY) 274
The first Saturn V launch Apollo 4 (unmanned) didn’t have the water deluge system setup yet. It was much louder than the other launches. This was where Uncle Walter Cronkite started getting concerned, as the walls of the press box started shaking and the ceiling started falling apart. I’ve read the vibrations were really something at a Saturn V launch.
I remember vaguely our parents talking about driving down for a launch in the latter years but it was quite a drive and commitment. Launch delays or scrubbed missions were always a possibility Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (vATra) 275
Henry's makes my go to root beer. Though I use A&W for my floats. Grandkids absolutely love the cream sodas. They make a point of raiding the fridge for them when they come over.
Posted by: Beartooth at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (IYeV+) Never knew that about their root beer. Might keep an eye out for some. Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (rgnea) 276
Lucky Lager had the concentration type puzzles inside the cap.
Posted by: Cosda at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (CLMmB) 277
Cell with wireless headphones is all you need. Your own saved playlist, or infinite sources online.
Posted by: mindful webworker - what is this, 1980s? at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (0poB+) --------- I'm waiting for wax tubes to come back. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:21 PM (u/oMr) I'd rather get 45's first, and a home jukebox! Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (qx7Zg) 278
48 You have Michelob in the cheap beer picture? Wasn't that Anheisher-Busch's "premium" label? Posted by: tankdemon at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM ------ We considered it the good stuff. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 11:27 PM (t1fZA) 279
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So we were promised some earth-shattering event this weekend? What happened? ... Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh --- It's about 7 AM in Tehran so nothing's happening over there. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:27 PM (D2ex+) 280
My one memory of HoJo's is grabbing a late-nite meal with my dad after he picked me up at the airport for a visit. There was a tremendous crashing sound, and we turned to see a semi-truck plummeting off an overpass onto the street below. The driver apparently swerved to avoid an oncoming car and breached the guard rail.
Posted by: PabloD at May 24, 2026 11:28 PM (PCZFY) 281
Pacifico is a decent Budweiser clone. I’d say they beat Budweiser at their game. Nice and crisp, good summer beer.
Prohibition killed American beer for a hundred years. Prior to that every town of any size had a brewery. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 11:28 PM (vATra) 282
@amuse
TEXAS SENATE RACE: James Talarico (CIS) claims to oppose dark money. It turns out his super PAC is funded by the darkest money imaginable ...from Epstein associate Reid Hoffman, ... Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:30 PM (D2ex+) 283
Think what the country was like in 1972. I don't want to go back there. And we elected Carter in 1976.
The Turning Point type kids are more numerous than you might think. Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:30 PM (qrzX6) 284
Duff beer deserves a mention!
Posted by: TRex - duffman dino at May 24, 2026 11:23 PM (IQ6Gq) I prefer Alamo. Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:32 PM (qrzX6) 285
OK, so every mass-produced beer in the US is awful. That's all I get told. Are mass-produced foreign beers any better?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 11:24 PM (HdYcL) They really aren't awful, there just so-so. Average. Whelming. Plenty of the same from other countries. Labatts and Molson from Canada. Harp and Smithwicks from across the pond. Varying degrees of whelm. Nothing great about them. But they don't need to be great. Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:32 PM (QMAsf) 286
A PNW restaurant chain long gone as far as I know is Royal Fork. Buffet style dining for families on a budget.
Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:33 PM (rgnea) 287
Iron City beer was not good. Sorry to those in Pittsburgh.
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:33 PM (qrzX6) 288
287 Iron City beer was not good. Sorry to those in Pittsburgh.
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:33 PM (qrzX6) Mmmm. Tastes like slag. Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 11:35 PM (bss/y) 289
" Iron City beer was not good. Sorry to those in Pittsburgh"
************ Iron City was made for people who breathed in coal dust or sweated in a steel mill. It didn't need to be good. Posted by: Cosda at May 24, 2026 11:35 PM (CLMmB) 290
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Michelob still IS one of AB's premium beers. In answer to the question about whether mass-produced foreign beers are better than their U.S. counterparts, I would say it depends on what "mass produced" means in the European context. Several German beers (and Guinness extra stout too) are clearly better, imo, than anything available in the U.S...., but what does "mass produced" mean? Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:36 PM (RCjYY) 291
156, for the opposite reason as me... maybe try suspenders? No lack-a-friction to frustrate you.
Posted by: RandomDave at May 24, 2026 11:37 PM (aJQbY) 292
My one memory of HoJo's is grabbing a late-nite meal with my dad after he picked me up at the airport for a visit. There was a tremendous crashing sound, and we turned to see a semi-truck plummeting off an overpass onto the street below. The driver apparently swerved to avoid an oncoming car and breached the guard rail.
Posted by: PabloD Hope he hadn't just left the HoJo's, because that would be a sphincter check. Also hope he survived an 18-wheeler landing on him..... Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:38 PM (VHUov) 293
I'm reading some more. This water deluge being more "flame/heat" protection vs sound suppression is complicate. As a near as can gather, the Saturn V system was the former. They used a huge lateral flame trench and deflector setup to channel the shockwaves sideways so they didn't bounce back to the rocket. That was the "sound suppression" system. The water deluge was indeed just about flame/plume protection. It was with the Shuttle they started used the water deluge for active sound suppression. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 24, 2026 11:38 PM (w6EFb) 294
Little Kings
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 11:38 PM (Cqx++) 295
I worked for a couple months at a Burger Chef in Pine Bluff Arkansas, can't quite recall the (rich guy) owner's name.
My mom's bowling team was sponsored by Pabst for a couple years, back in the 60's. They moved up to Pepsi sponsorship later. All I recall of the beer is it had a sort of "twang" to it. Posted by: illiniwek at May 24, 2026 11:38 PM (vbXSk) 296
286 A PNW restaurant chain long gone as far as I know is Royal Fork. Buffet style dining for families on a budget.
--------- Another royalty-themed buffet was Sir George's in SoCal. They had this cut-rate knight motif -- think Camelot meets Chuckie Cheese. It was fine dining to me and we only got to go there on special occasions. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (6/7Fs) 297
For the washer, its probably the mechanical timer. the contacts get burnt and won't connect well. you can get an old ignition file at the auto parts and clean them up the file is about a quarter inch wide and flexible just do a few stroke between each set of contacts you'll probably see that some are rougher (burnt) than others
Posted by: Lord Percy at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (nftVU) 298
@clashreport
5h Senior Iranian official Mohsen Rezaee: Our finger is on the trigger for the fourth battle. On the other hand, of course, our officials are also negotiating to properly restore the rights of the Iranian nation. This is the final stage, where the entirety of these 47 years, by the grace of Almighty God, will reach a conclusion that will ensure security is established in Iran for the next 50 years. -------------- Just nuke 'em. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (D2ex+) 299
Had reheated baby back ribs, salad, and microwaved "baked" potatoes for dinner. Ribs very tasty, as was the salad. Taters were meh. Did not eat much. In 90+ degree heat my appetite is flagging.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (8zz6B) 300
Piels. With Schultz and Dooley mugs
Posted by: Harry case at May 24, 2026 11:42 PM (Kg3Mf) 301
On the other hand, of course, our officials are also negotiating to properly restore the rights of the Iranian nation.
-------- It says a lot about where you are as a country when you have to negotiate for your "national rights" with someone you call The Great Satan. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:42 PM (6/7Fs) 302
53 Tank demon beat me to it. Where’s Sambos on the list of lost chains. Basically they renamed them since Sambos was racist and many than closed down.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (2NHgQ) Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go. Posted by: firehorse at May 24, 2026 11:43 PM (YWQSq) 303
Off to bed, y’all. Goodnight!
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:43 PM (p4NUW) 304
Several German beers (and Guinness extra stout too) are clearly better, imo, than anything available in the U.S...., but what does "mass produced" mean?
Posted by: mnw Scale matters. "Mass produced" for a country of 5 million (Ireland) is different than for a country 80 million (Germany), or a country of 350 million (USA). I'd say the other "mass produced" beers around us suck. Corona and Modelo to the south? Labatt, Molsons, and Fosters (made in Canada for the USA, not in Aussieland) to the north? Negra Modelo is pretty okay, though. Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (VHUov) 305
Our finger is on the trigger for the fourth battle.
Is this another one of those chakras I hear about? Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (gKWVE) 306
I used to drink Michelob light. Came if the cool shapely brown bottle with a silver label. Regular Michelob had the Gold label. My dad always had Grain Belt Schlitz and Hamms in the fridge. Whenever he got a 12 pak i'd sneak 1 or two out save them until i had 10 or 12 and then me and my buddies would go into the woods and drink them .
Posted by: Big Alfredo at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (Vdukr) 307
The first time I puked on beer was Old Milwaukee in 10th grade. Never touched the shit again.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (D1E+2) 308
>Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (VHUov)
----- Avalanche have just collapsed against Vegas. Inexplicable. But, football is coming. Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 11:45 PM (ZxPkt) 309
The only one on the list I remember eating at as a kid is Howard Johnson's... mom would take us there because they had fried clams - my mom loved fried clams. God I feel old lol.
Posted by: firehorse at May 24, 2026 11:45 PM (YWQSq) 310
Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go.
--------- My first restaurant job was waiting tables at a Sambo's in Santa Ana CA. I worked the 10 pm to 6 am shift, so I've seen things. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:45 PM (6/7Fs) 311
ank demon beat me to it. Where’s Sambos on the list of lost chains. Basically they renamed them since Sambos was racist and many than closed down.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (2NHgQ) Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go. Posted by: firehorse They go by BoJangles now? Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:46 PM (/lPRQ) 312
Avalanche have just collapsed against Vegas. Inexplicable.
But, football is coming. Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 11:45 PM (ZxPkt) You also got the Rockies!! Posted by: gKWVE. Astros fan. Yeah. at May 24, 2026 11:47 PM (gKWVE) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (Cqx++) 314
I remember going to a Sambo’s in eastern PA, circa 1978.
Posted by: Mark in SC at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (ZHMYh) 315
Our finger is on the trigger for the fourth battle.
Is this another one of those chakras I hear about? Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (gKWVE) It's a code for getting with their fourth goat of the day. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (qx7Zg) 316
It says a lot about where you are as a country when you have to negotiate for your "national rights" with someone you call The Great Satan.
- They're playing for global sympathy, because they're being picked on by the big bad superpower. Lots of people are stupid enough to look past the fact that they want nuclear weapons so that they can blackmail everyone else, much like they're using the strait today. Oh and kill all the Jews, of course. Maybe some of us if they can figure out the rest of the rocketry involved. Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (vSvIl) 317
As Trump has said, trying to negotiate with the mullahs can be frustrating... because different factions there take different positions on key issues.
I would say the key to making the ceasefire deal work is to keep the U.S. military in place near Iran-- for a long time. Something U.S. voters will hate. Zero messed up Iraq by withdrawing the small U.S. residual military force there too soon. Hello, ISIS! Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (RCjYY) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 11:49 PM (Cqx++) 319
polynikes and in '72 the country elected Nixon (49 states?) amidst a maelstrom of idiocy, lies, and distortion from the "press" (which back then was practically homogenous, and very limited). Take that electorate back in a nanosecond over today's.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 11:49 PM (U/Byj) 320
Show some class and put in the front yard.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (/lPRQ) It was for a couple of days when I was doing the first attempts at figuring out what was wrong. I moved it to the back yard so I could run the discharge hose onto the side of the garden and not waste all that water. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:49 PM (rbvCR) 321
FUN FACT: The Sambo's name came from the nickname of the chain's founder Sam Battistone. The little black Sambo character was from a children's book, and he was Indian, not black. Hence the tiger mascot.
Only (dot) Indians should have been offended. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:50 PM (6/7Fs) 322
Of course Sambo was Indian but I guess he identified as African-American.
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:50 PM (qrzX6) 323
the (EPA) said Sunday that a chemical storage tank in Southern California is likely to fail and has forced officials to declare emergency evacuation orders for tens of thousands residents
... “We’re being told that the tank will fail, but there are different scenarios as to what that means, the most catastrophic scenario being an explosion that results in other tanks to explode. That’s the reason why you see such a big evacuation that’s been done in the surrounding areas.” The malfunctioning tank holds approximately 5,000 to 7,000 gallons of methyl methacrylate, a flammable and volatile chemical used in plastics manufacturing for aerospace applications. ... 50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:51 PM (D2ex+) Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:52 PM (qrzX6) 325
50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles.
--------- Garden Grove must be 50% Vietnamese. There are as many signs in Vietnamese as in English. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:52 PM (6/7Fs) 326
Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go.
Posted by: firehorse They go by BoJangles now? Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:46 PM (/lPRQ) Sad thing about that whole "racist" moral panic about Sambo's is that Little Black Sambo was dot Indian, not African, because it was a tiger he defeated. No tigers in Africa. And the whole point of the story is that he was a very clever kid. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (8zz6B) 327
Trump needs to get some kind of distraction going.
People are getting all antsy pantsy waiting for Iran to screw up again. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (D2ex+) 328
As Trump has said, trying to negotiate with the mullahs can be frustrating... because different factions there take different positions on key issues.
I would say the key to making the ceasefire deal work is to keep the U.S. military in place near Iran-- for a long time. Something U.S. voters will hate. Zero messed up Iraq by withdrawing the small U.S. residual military force there too soon. Hello, ISIS! Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (RCjYY) He could always tell them that the DoW AIs will decide whether to launch nuclear weapons at Iran. Currently, they nuke about 95% of the time, from articles I've seen. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (qx7Zg) 329
Lucky Lager had the concentration type puzzles inside the cap.
Posted by: Cosda at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (CLMmB) They are called Rebus puzzles. My Grammie drank Lucky and she had me solve the puzzles. Lucky came in the shorty bottles. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (rbvCR) Posted by: Frank Booth at May 24, 2026 11:54 PM (CHHv1) 331
We elected Trump three times.
Posted by: polynikes I honestly am astounded that they didn't disqualify him from the 2024 election due to that fact. Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2026 11:54 PM (vhPr1) 332
Braenyard, That is a bad situation out there. I feel for the people who had to evacuate. Where did most of them have to go? I just can't imagine the impact all of that is having on many lives. Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 11:54 PM (3ek7K) 333
They go by BoJangles now? Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher --- Thought they named it, Step 'n Fetch It. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:54 PM (D2ex+) 334
Back to just me. Good night all you good folks.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 11:55 PM (CHHv1) 335
And both houses of Congress continued to be controlled by the Dems for another 12 years after having it for almost 30 years already.
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:55 PM (qrzX6) 336
And polynikes I'll still take the other electorate - not just for presidential, but for everything down the line including culture and standards. Happy to have one that did what it did 3 times, but reverse Golden Days has become even more ridiculous than straight Golden Days syndrome.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 11:55 PM (U/Byj) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 11:56 PM (3ek7K) 338
>>My first restaurant job was waiting tables at a Sambo's in Santa Ana CA. I worked the 10 pm to 6 am shift, so I've seen things.
Before I moved to PR I had to make some extra money so I got a 2nd job cleaning a McDonald's on an overnight shift. My work partner was an ex-con with issues. Whole different story. I cleaned the grease traps between the flat top cooking areas, the fry machine and even the ice cream/shake machine. It was way over a decade before I could ever eat there again. I've seen horror you people wouldn't believe. Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2026 11:56 PM (viF8m) 339
>> I’ve read the vibrations were really something at a Saturn V launch.
When the first tested the five F-1 cluster at Stennis back in '67, they shattered a bunch of windows miles away. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 24, 2026 11:56 PM (w6EFb) 340
The malfunctioning tank holds approximately 5,000 to 7,000 gallons of methyl methacrylate, a flammable and volatile chemical used in plastics manufacturing for aerospace applications.
... 50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:51 PM (D2ex+) Methyl methacrylate monomer is the base material for acrylic plastics like Lexan, Lucite, and Plexiglass. So, airplane windows. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 11:56 PM (8zz6B) Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:57 PM (qrzX6) 342
. It was fine dining to me and we only got to go there on special occasions.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (6/7Fs) Our local Royal Forks were a staple for my wife's family whenever they went out. My folks always went for a family run Chinese place "around the corner" from us when I was growing up. Ma was heartbroken when they sold. Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:57 PM (sW5jf) 343
Memories of desperately trying to finish one of those ridiculously huge Farrels rootbeer floats in the boat shaped glass bowl after little league games. Mom let us have zero sweets at home so it meant finish that at all costs. Oh the sweet agony of that ride home in the station wagon.
Posted by: Mad Manx at May 24, 2026 11:59 PM (hyQrc) 344
Not sure exactly where the evacuation areas are but yes looks at a glance like it includes much of Little Saigon. Close to Disneyland too. Garden Grove (like most of the flat lands in the region) was largely agricultural until the 50s boom onward. And in terms of demographics, had a lot of Japanese-Americans up til the 70s (possibly spilling over from nearby Torrance).
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 11:59 PM (U/Byj) 345
323 the (EPA) said Sunday that a chemical storage tank in Southern California is likely to fail and has forced officials to declare emergency evacuation orders for tens of thousands residents
... “We’re being told that the tank will fail, but there are different scenarios as to what that means, the most catastrophic scenario being an explosion ... Just a few miles from Knotts Berry Farm and Disneyland/already within the evacuation zone but not closed down... Let's see them woke their way out of this one. Will be as if the Pacific Palisades/Fire went Orange. He who puts his faith in Politicos is a creature who's existence is soon to be without value. But don't worry, KaliforniaPsycho/Gavin has come to the rescue. https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-PutASmileOnThatFace https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-signedSCHWARTZWALD Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at May 24, 2026 11:59 PM (8p8zX) 346
The malfunctioning tank holds approximately 5,000 to 7,000 gallons of methyl methacrylate, a flammable and volatile chemical used in plastics manufacturing for aerospace applications.
... 50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles. Posted by: Braenyard === Not so bad when you look up the Wiki... ... Another application is as cement used in total hip replacements as well as total knee replacements. Used as the "grout" by orthopedic surgeons to make the bone inserts fix into bone... ... the LD50 is 7–10 g/kg (oral, rat). It is an irritant to the eyes and can cause redness and pain.[18][19] Irritation of the skin, eye, and nasal cavity has been observed in rodents and rabbits exposed to relatively high concentrations of methyl methacrylate. Methyl methacrylate is a mild skin irritant in humans and has the potential to induce skin sensitization in susceptible individuals open a valve and let the secondary containment catch it. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:59 PM (/lPRQ) 347
I don't know how people think of the late 60's to mid 70's were any type of golden days.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:00 AM (qrzX6) Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:00 AM (viF8m) 349
Do you think is worrying how he can pay for the citizens there to evacuate? Oh no, he has to save up money to pay for Ipads for prisoners and "free" diapers for the poor. What a POS. Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:02 AM (3ek7K) 350
Crap! Been dry as a bone around here, now pouring rain, and forecast to continue through tomorrow. I have attended the Memorial Day service at the State Veteran's Cemtery for years. This is an outdoor service, at 10:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. I feel my resolve to attend slipping away.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:02 AM (XeU6L) 351
@MOSSADil
· 2h In Tehran, the IRGC is already staging “victory” marches under the emerging agreement, parading ballistic missiles from underground bases while senior regime officials reemerge from bunkers. Tehran is signaling that the regime survived, rearmed, and is ready for the next phase. Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 12:02 AM (ZxPkt) 352
I saw an in-the-wild tranny this evening at the mart of Wal. Won't give it's first name, but if its last name was "Dolittle", you could guess the first. Fat, no chesticular protuberances at all, ugly, stringy blonde hair. Looked like a younger, seedier version of that crazy Admiral. Masculine voice, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:02 AM (8zz6B) 353
Oh no, he has to save up money to pay for Ipads for prisoners and "free" diapers for the poor.
What a POS. --------- You won't be sneering when you see our meth addicts sporting perfect smiles courtesy of dental implants supplied by the state. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 25, 2026 12:03 AM (6/7Fs) 354
Sad thing about that whole "racist" moral panic about Sambo's is that Little Black Sambo was dot Indian, not African, because it was a tiger he defeated. No tigers in Africa. And the whole point of the story is that he was a very clever kid.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (8zz6B) It is related to the Tiger Grandma story from SE Asia where the Grandma got robbed of everything on the way home by the tigers, including her hands and head, which the tigers tried to use to get the grandchildren to open the door for them so they could eat the children too. It is a version of Red Riding Hood, but without the Woodsman. I think it also reflects the original Astarte story about how Astarte went to the underworld to save a servant and had to trade everything she had a bit at a time to bribe her way past the demons guarding the various portals in Hell. Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:04 AM (rbvCR) 355
Evenin’, All. A good Memorial Day to everyone.
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:04 AM (77rzZ) 356
the (EPA) said Sunday that a chemical storage tank in Southern California is likely to fail and has forced officials to declare emergency evacuation orders for tens of thousands residents
- Just dump the contents in the nearest waterway. Posted by: Kharg Island Engineers local #54 at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (vSvIl) 357
We elected Trump three times.
Posted by: polynikes I honestly am astounded that they didn't disqualify him from the 2024 election due to that fact. Posted by: Tonypete You can bet the UniParty "war-gamed" it. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (/lPRQ) 358
Sad thing about that whole "racist" moral panic about Sambo's is that Little Black Sambo was dot Indian, not African, because it was a tiger he defeated. No tigers in Africa. And the whole point of the story is that he was a very clever kid.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon "Sambo" is also the name of a Soviet martial art. There's a Japanese band named for it. "Sambomaster." Wonder what kind of fallout they'd get for touring the USA today? https://youtu.be/lNFSL6To3zI Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (VHUov) 359
I thought little black sambo had the tiger run in circles enough to turn him into butter?
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (qrzX6) 360
>>>I've seen horror you people wouldn't believe.
Posted by: JackStraw >C'mon. It was only bad the first time, if you did your job right. I've seen these things. A good produce manager in a grocery store is hard to find. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:06 AM (D1E+2) 361
Lone Star long-necks to Old Style to Point… trying to make that into a song along the lines of Route 66.
Seem to be stuck in '70s memories tonight. After college, I would keep a variety of beers in the fridge. Might have Mickey's or Little Kings, Heinlein, Michelob, Corona, on and on. Usually had one type for a little while, then switched. I remember a cousin coming by and razzing me because the last time he'd visited I was drinking Heiney's. WTF, dude? That was briefly and many moons back. People are funny. Dang. Now I want a Guinness. https://youtu.be/CsvupI8pNN4?t=52 Posted by: mindful webworker - beer beer beer at May 25, 2026 12:06 AM (0poB+) 362
And the whole point of the story is that he was a very clever kid.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ------ Collected a bucket of butter to boot, if I recall. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:06 AM (XeU6L) 363
Remembering our heroes with tranny fluid?
Posted by: Beelzebubba at May 25, 2026 12:06 AM (bufu1) 364
Just dump the contents in the nearest waterway.
Posted by: Kharg Island Engineers local #54 at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (vSvIl) Maybe the sewage from Mexico now on the California coast can cancel it out. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:07 AM (qrzX6) 365
I thought little black sambo had the tiger run in circles enough to turn him into butter?
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (qrzX6) That's right. He defeated the tiger by outwitting it. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:08 AM (8zz6B) 366
193 She's cute and makes cool post-punk songs.
https://tinyurl.com/3vk5ccvt Otherwise, hello folks. Posted by: BeckoningChasm Huh, I like it. It's AI slop, but very listenable AI slop. Will have to explore further that YT page. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 25, 2026 12:08 AM (sAmhv) 367
If Iran surrenders the enriched uranium, then whatever else that was necessary to get it is acceptable. If we don’t get it - well that’s what I would have expected from Kamala.
I’m not predicting anything, I’m going to wait and see. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:09 AM (U0opd) 368
Cicero, The good thing about the dentures for the addicts is they will look good when they are robbing or killing you. Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:10 AM (3ek7K) Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 12:10 AM (RCjYY) 370
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:09 AM (U0opd
Their enriched uranium is probably already in the same place as Iraq's missing VX gas. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:10 AM (qrzX6) 371
Ahhh, Sambo's restaurants... used to get with some friends and go there for late-night entertainment on Friday or Saturday nights. *Interesting stuff* would happen there after the bars closed, LOL!
One time, a lady came in with a couple others and they started singing. Well, the one lady was so enthusiastic, she got up onto a chair to sing-- and then got up onto a table to sing some more AND dance! Hahaha, dee-runk she was! Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:10 AM (rdVOm) 372
Cicero,
The good thing about the dentures for the addicts is they will look good when they are robbing or killing you. --------- Karen Bass thinks it will let them all get high-paying jobs as venture capitalists. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 25, 2026 12:11 AM (6/7Fs) 373
That Indian kid went on to invent that ice-rink machine, the Samboni.
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:11 AM (77rzZ) Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 12:12 AM (RCjYY) 375
Sambo was Frodo's loyal companion.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:12 AM (qrzX6) 376
Hudepohl 14K
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:12 AM (Cqx++) 377
Bob Dylan wrote a famous song called "Hey Mr. Sambo-reen Man"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 25, 2026 12:13 AM (6/7Fs) Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:13 AM (3ek7K) 379
Find out where the enriched uranium is stored. Hit the site with a bunker-buster nuke. If they are storing it under a girls' school, too bad, so sad.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:14 AM (8zz6B) 380
>>>I've seen horror you people wouldn't believe.
Posted by: JackStraw Worked as a baker at local grocery store in HS. Took a summer job at a different store I during a summer break in college. First day on the job I taste tested some donuts... bitter. Drained the fryer to change the shortening. Got seven five gallon buckets of soot out of it... they probably never cleaned it in over a year. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:14 AM (/lPRQ) 381
I'm hungry for Little Debbie yellow cake.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:14 AM (Cqx++) 382
I'm hungry for Little Debbie yellow cake.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:14 AM (Cq LD Swiss Roll for me please. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:15 AM (qrzX6) Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:16 AM (3ek7K) 384
Unfortunately, Sambo’s son got involved with that Philistine chick, who cut his hair off.
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:16 AM (77rzZ) 385
Wait.. I thought Little Black Sambo got threatened by a succession of tigers, trading a piece of his brand-new clothing to each in order that they would spare his life? And then the tigers saw each other with the dandy new duds, got jealous, and chased each other 'round & 'round a tree until they all melted down into butter?
And then LBS took back his clothing, scooped up the butter and brought it back to his Mammy & she cooked for him and he ate eleventy-seven pancakes? Or, maybe I got told a different story... Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:16 AM (rdVOm) 386
Indianapolis 500 - Felix Rosenqvist won in one of the more entertaining 500's I've ever watched and I've watched a lot of them. One hell of a finish!
Coca Cola 600 - Daniel Suárez won. Another very good race that the weather screwed up. No idea about the Canadian Grand Prix. F1 is exclusive to Apple+ TV and I already have too many streaming services. Probably pair it back next year. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 25, 2026 12:17 AM (sAmhv) 387
>>>I've seen horror you people wouldn't believe.
Posted by: JackStraw >C'mon. It was only bad the first time, if you did your job right. I've seen these things. A good produce manager in a grocery store is hard to find. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 25, 2026 12:18 AM (CHHv1) 388
hearing chatter on X that onlyfans got pwnd and hax00rd
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I worked in a Winn Dixie. Never trusted the butchers.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:19 AM (qrzX6) 390
That Indian kid went on to invent that ice-rink machine, the Samboni.
Posted by: Bulg Two minutes for unsportsmanlike punduct. Posted by: the ref at May 25, 2026 12:20 AM (VHUov) 391
And then LBS took back his clothing, scooped up the butter and brought it back to his Mammy & she cooked for him and he ate eleventy-seven pancakes?
Or, maybe I got told a different story... Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:16 AM (rdVOm) -------- I thinks that's a pretty good rendition of the story. I hear Christopher Nolan is planning a filmed version with a cast made entirely of Irish. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 25, 2026 12:20 AM (6/7Fs) 392
... on the other hand, Grok is saying it's bullshit
Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 12:21 AM (gKWVE) 393
Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 12:19 AM (gKWVE)
I've always advocated for international death penalty for hackers. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:21 AM (qrzX6) 394
I read in an Obama-Biden Newsletter not too long ago, about the El Salvadorian who cured cancer and the Venezuelan physicist who invented cold fusion. True story, guys.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:21 AM (D1E+2) 395
295 My mom's howling team was sponsored by (...)
- - - - - - My brain misread the original post and came up with that. It *does* sound like fun... ;-) Posted by: As Not Seen On TV at May 25, 2026 12:22 AM (flLTR) 396
Find out where the enriched uranium is stored. Hit the site with a bunker-buster nuke. If they are storing it under a girls' school, too bad, so sad.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon They may be dominated by the Arab mind and claiming all kinds of Shiite they do not have. IRBMs, ICBMs, hyper missiles, Nukes (ready to assemble), enough famous for ten nukes, etc. They are just holding them "in reserve"... after blindly lashing out at everyone around them for weeks... Yup, just holding the good stuff in reserve. Hard to give up what you do not have. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:23 AM (/lPRQ) 397
>>First day on the job I taste tested some donuts... bitter.
Drained the fryer to change the shortening. Got seven five gallon buckets of soot out of it... they probably never cleaned it in over a year. Also had a part-time job working as a dishwasher in a high end country club in high school. I'm a big a fan of home cooking. Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:23 AM (viF8m) 398
Dad liked Hamm's beer. Or Coors. Heh, no "lite" beer for him!
Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:23 AM (rdVOm) 399
We would appreciate it very much if you could bring more expensive craft beers with your group the next time you go floating, just in case your craft overturns and leaves the beer for us.
Also, bringing weenie tots and other meats is appreciated! Posted by: River Fishes at May 25, 2026 12:23 AM (yO07m) 400
I always thought Drew Carey was one of the reasonable celebrities. I thought wrong. What an asshoe.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:24 AM (qrzX6) 401
r hennigantx, back at #55: If the person who ordered it ate the entire sundae, employees would come out banging on a drum, announce the accomplishment to the entire restaurant, and present the customer with either a ribbon or a pinback button that said, "I made a pig of myself at Farrell's!"
I remember that scene in Bill & Ted's. https://youtu.be/6NzdphRY2IM Posted by: mindful webworker - Napoleonitan at May 25, 2026 12:24 AM (0poB+) 402
Orwell wrote in 'Down and Out In London and Paris' about working in restaurants:
"Looking round that filthy room, with raw meat lying among the refuse on the floor, and cold, clotted saucepans sprawling everywhere, and the sink blocked and coated with grease, I used to wonder whether there could be a restaurant in the world as bad as ours. But the other three all said they had been in dirtier places" Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:25 AM (XeU6L) Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:25 AM (qrzX6) 404
So, this happened: found a Motorola cellphone on the ground in my yard today, here in AJ. Glass over screen is smashed, but it boots up Android, and indicates its on the T-Mobile network. Wants a PIN to get into it. Touch screen still works.
Would ADBridge let me get into the phone and reset the password? Mostly wondering if it would help me find the phone's rightful owner. Any suggestions? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:25 AM (8zz6B) 405
I've always advocated for international death penalty for hackers.
Posted by: polynikes How do you distinguish between them and various countries NSA types? Oh, they are exactly the same. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:26 AM (/lPRQ) 406
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Heineken beer. Heinlien was the SF writer. Posted by: mnw Uhhhh, right. Heh. Can I blame autocucumber? Posted by: mindful webworker - Napoleonitan at May 25, 2026 12:27 AM (0poB+) 407
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:25 AM (XeU6L)
The Jungle by the commie Upton Sinclair tells of a similar story in the meat packing industry. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (qrzX6) 408
400 What did Drew Carey say/do?
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (77rzZ) 409
We would appreciate it very much if you could bring more expensive craft beers with your group the next time you go floating, just in case your craft overturns and leaves the beer for us.
Also, bringing weenie tots and other meats is appreciated! Posted by: River Fishes Beer floats. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:29 AM (/lPRQ) Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:30 AM (3ek7K) 411
What did Drew Carey say/do?
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (77rzZ) Went on a profane rant about Spencer Pratt and his supporters. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:30 AM (qrzX6) 412
What did Drew Carey say/do?
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (77rzZ) Didn't stay concealed. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (8zz6B) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (D2ex+) 414
Cheap beer? I recall buying Chief Oskosh for $2.05 for an 8-pack. I see that they closed in 1971.
Image of the can that I recall: https://shorturl.at/DXeVM Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (XeU6L) 415
Shame about Carey. I liked him. Oh well.
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (77rzZ) 416
Navy Secretary Hung: The U.S. has paused a $14 billion arms sale to Taiwan.
-- What's going on? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (D2ex+) Whatever it is I don't like it. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:32 AM (qrzX6) 417
The Jungle by the commie Upton Sinclair tells of a similar story in the meat packing industry.
Posted by: polynikes -------- Yup. Read it waaaay back. Caused a scandal at the time of publishing. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:34 AM (XeU6L) 418
Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:34 AM (Cqx++) 419
Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:34 AM (Cq Out of this world Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:35 AM (qrzX6) 420
I loved Farrells - ours was at a prime spot in Scottsdale, spent many happy times there. Best ice cream place ever!
Last time I was there, saw that there’s a many storied office tower on the location. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:35 AM (U0opd) 421
Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. Indistinguishable from a Butterfinger. Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (VHUov) 422
@MOSSADil
In Tehran, the IRGC is already staging “victory” marches under the emerging agreement, parading ballistic missiles from underground bases while senior regime officials reemerge from bunkers. Tehran is signaling that the regime survived, rearmed, and is ready for the next phase. Posted by: Don Black Sure, sure. That's what the Israelis want Trump to believe, so he'll keep attacking them. With any luck, it would work. If true, it does seem to me like it would be whatchacall a target-rich environment. Posted by: mindful webworker - Napoleonitan at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (0poB+) 423
Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:34 AM (Cqx++) Reminded me that a lot of people still think the Baby Ruth bar was named after Babe Ruth. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (qrzX6) 424
In college in the mumbly mumbly's we would splurge by walking down to the Red Barn for burgers and then over to Arthur Treachers for Fish and Chips. Back at the dorm we'd wash it all down with some 99c/six pack Knickerbocker and maybe some Freihofer's Chocolate Chip Cookies for dessert.
Here in So. Cal we mourn the demise of Charlie Brown's Steakhouse, Francisco's coffee shop and Pioneer Chicken among others.... In Florida we used to go to Bonanza Steak House.... Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (QGaXH) 425
A paraglider gets hit by a Cessna 172 near the Austrian town of Zell am See.
According to police, the 44-year-old Austrian had started from Schmittenhöhe in the direction of Piesendorf. Above the Pinzgauer Hütte, she collided at 1:15 p.m. with the Cessna piloted by a 28-year-old. The pilot of the Cessna, which flew from the Glemm Valley in the direction of Zell am See, was able to land the aircraft safely at Zell am See Airport. video: https://tinyurl.com/yv4fvyee Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (D2ex+) 426
>>> Newsom Declares State of Emergency in Orange County as Experts Warn Chemical Tank Could Explode – Firefighters Find Crack in Tank
I thought it was methyl methacrylate. Save the crack, sell it, and trick out your fire trucks. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (/lPRQ) 427
A cruise missile sale to Japan was delayed so that the US could restock its supplies. Haven't seen any reason for the Taiwan pause.
A shame about Carey. Someone I know (much younger) headed out to Hollyweird to try do comedy back in the day, like most didn't make it, but for a while did end up as a personal assistant to Carey's side-kick comedian guy (Ryan something? tall skinny guy) and maybe a bit for Carey as well. Said they were super nice to work with and made a point of not forgetting how they had slept in their cars before "making it". Also, Carey I believe made a point of visiting vets hospitals, Walter Reed and Bethesda when he was in DC, and instructed his people "no publicity". If true, that seemed good. He was in the Marines. Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:37 AM (U/Byj) 428
So drew carey is just another useless leftist slob. Why is everyone in that industry so worthless?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:37 AM (U0opd) 429
A paraglider gets hit by a Cessna 172 near the Austrian town of Zell am See.
=== Technically I think the paraglider would have had the right of way. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:39 AM (/lPRQ) 430
In Florida we used to go to Bonanza Steak House....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (QGaXH) They had a similar chain called The Ponderosa . Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:39 AM (qrzX6) 431
What did Drew Carey say/do?
Posted by: Bulg Went on a profane rant about Spencer Pratt and his supporters. Posted by: polynikes ...... He just has the hots for Karen Bass. Posted by: wth at May 25, 2026 12:39 AM (oq9dX) 432
I miss Skipper's Fish 'n' Chips restaurants.
Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:40 AM (rdVOm) Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:40 AM (QGaXH) 434
ARiK don't think those chains made it south of the Orange Curtain. Oscar's was a local star that faded away. Of course Jack in the Box started here but didn't go national til the 80s, I think?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:40 AM (U/Byj) 435
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:37 AM (U/Byj)
He used to identify himself as a Libertarian. I think I see the problem. Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:41 AM (qrzX6) 436
Watching reruns of Rockford Files. Reminds me of the Los Angeles I came to as a fresh college grad....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:41 AM (QGaXH) 437
Maybe Drew Carey needs a new set of teeth?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:42 AM (Cqx++) 438
I have an assorted collection of church keys that are branded by the old local breweries dating back to WW11. Am I getting old?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:42 AM (D1E+2) 439
Back in the day, it was illegal to sell Coors in Missouri. The proffered reason was that it was not pasteurized and therefore unsafe. The real reason is because Anheuser-Busch is located in St. Louis and could get the legislature to squash its competition. My grandfather and his buddies loved Coors so much that they would drive to Colorado, load a pickup bed full of cases of the stuff and drive it back. A real-life Smokey and the Bandit scenario, but without the cool Trans-Am.
Posted by: PabloD at May 25, 2026 12:43 AM (PCZFY) 440
Bear Whiz Beer
"It's in the water, that's why it's yellow...." Posted by: Anonymous Rogue --------- I forget the comedian; 'They stopped making Billy beer... the horse died' Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:43 AM (XeU6L) 441
HMS Lyme Bay seen loading ammunition, supplies, and mine-hunting sea drones in Gibraltar while en route to the Strait of Hormuz region
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:44 AM (D2ex+) Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 12:44 AM (RCjYY) 443
Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. Indistinguishable from a Butterfinger. Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (VHUov) Once you have a Buttafuocofinger, you never go back. You become obsessed, even. Posted by: Amy Fisher at May 25, 2026 12:44 AM (wVcYX) 444
Zell am See Austria was the actual location where the "Band of Brothers" (501 PIR/E Company) ended their war. The TV series filmed at a similar location in Switzerland.
The Nixon character was given many great lines, one of his best, and under-appreciated, was as he was climbing the stairs at the Grand Hotel, the beautiful building set on the spectacular lake, as they arrived. "We should be comfortable here". Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:44 AM (U/Byj) 445
154 The Bicentennial Coke commercial got me the thinking about the Tall Ship parade in NY Harbor for that Birthday. First hit that come up for "Operation Sail" on YT and there in plain sight and still standing 25 years ago are the Twin Towers. Too much has changed.
https://youtu.be/nppINIM3fEI? Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (rgnea) I still find it hard to watch the opening of 'Barney Miller'... Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:45 AM (QGaXH) 446
Whose Line Is It Anyway was always pretty good. After Drew Carey hosted it he was replaced by Archer's Lana.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:45 AM (qrzX6) 447
Smells like rain outside, but no sign of water on the ground, and none falling. Guess the petrichor scent is being wafted here by the southeast win.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:45 AM (8zz6B) 448
>>Navy Secretary Hung: The U.S. has paused a $14 billion arms sale to Taiwan.
-- >>What's going on? China is Iran's biggest customer by far. Venezuela was too. Trump recently had a big meeting in China. And now it appears Iran is ready to make a deal. Might be a coincidence but Trump is looking to change the world order not just make deals. Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:46 AM (viF8m) 449
411 What did Drew Carey say/do?
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (77rzZ) Went on a profane rant about Spencer Pratt and his supporters. Posted by: polynikes His blue collar roots are long in the past now. He's been in LA LA land for a long time. He's more that than Cleveland now. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 25, 2026 12:46 AM (sAmhv) 450
The Nixon character was given many great lines, one of his best, and under-appreciated, was as he was climbing the stairs at the Grand Hotel, the beautiful building set on the spectacular lake, as they arrived. "We should be comfortable here".
Posted by: rhomboid ------- 2nd Lt. George Rice: Looks like you guys are going to be surrounded. Richard Winters: We're paratroopers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:47 AM (XeU6L) Posted by: PabloD at May 25, 2026 12:47 AM (PCZFY) 452
The pause in the sell of military equipment to Taiwan came right after his meeting with Xi.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:48 AM (qrzX6) 453
Holy Smokes! Just noticed Google home page has a vaguely patriotic 'doodle' for Memorial day.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:49 AM (QGaXH) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:49 AM (D2ex+) 455
HoJos had the franchise for the plazas on the PA Turnpike. As a matter of fact, my sister worked at one.
Automat. Pretty much NYC, but I did buy coffee and donuts out of them in the early 60s White Tower was a knockoff of White Castle. There was one in.my home town, about about a hundred feet and 2 bars from the W.E. factory gate. Bachelors who made it past those would stop for dinner. Good sliders. IIRC, they were 6 for a buck. I hit it mainly for coffee after the bars closed. Farrells. I lived in the PDX area and had kids. 'Nuff said. Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 12:51 AM (mSL0+) 456
This is me signing off for the night. What's your sign?
Used to see her at Chicago's Green Mill https://youtu.be/bPmajKYTkfA G'nite, y'all. Posted by: mindful webworker - leonine or leoten, whatever it takes at May 25, 2026 12:53 AM (0poB+) 457
Looked at dispassionately, this talk about a deal is downright comical. A lot of people who said 24 hours ago that there would be a deal now say there won’t be.
None of them know shit about will or will not actually happen. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:54 AM (U0opd) 458
In Florida we used to go to Bonanza Steak House....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia They had a similar chain called The Ponderosa . Posted by: polynikes Both were nationwide. They were grade school mikeski's favorites when we'd go to the Big City for some reason. All-you-can-eat fried shrimp! * searches * They still exist, but they're down to 21 restaurants. Minnesota still has one: a Bonanza in Saint Cloud. Florida is also down to one: a Ponderosa in Kissimmee. Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 12:55 AM (VHUov) 459
If I posted a warning sign, it would be either
Beware of Wife and Cat The dog's ok. -- or -- Warning. Extreme Sarcasm Ahead Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2026 12:55 AM (qx7Zg) 460
I like Coors beer. Not so much the Light, I'll drink it, but won't buy it. It's too light.
My brother wouldn't touch the stuff because he is convinced the brand contains lead and mercury in the water. I'm like, "Dude, you're retired and worried about that?" I'd be more worried about a frozen pizza. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:55 AM (D1E+2) 461
Looked at dispassionately, this talk about a deal is downright comical. A lot of people who said 24 hours ago that there would be a deal now say there won’t be.
None of them know shit about will or will not actually happen. Posted by: Tom Servo In fairness, they're trying to predict the behavior of muslims. Posted by: mikeski flips a whole roll of coins at May 25, 2026 12:56 AM (VHUov) 462
17 years old, but a fairly dense beard, especially if I didn't shave for a day. Back door into the Rabbits to the bar. A buck seventy five (quarter tip) on the bar ; "Three quarts of Iron to go." Out the back door into the car waiting in the alley, and off to a party.
Then there's "Schmidt's of Philadelphia". Served in the PX at Ft Monmouth. Drank a lot of that. Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 12:57 AM (mSL0+) 463
457 Looked at dispassionately, this talk about a deal is downright comical. A lot of people who said 24 hours ago that there would be a deal now say there won’t be.
None of them know shit about will or will not actually happen. Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:54 AM (U0opd) I think the real problem is that no one is really in charge in Iran. We decapitated their leadership... and now there is a major power struggle going on with the various factions each ignoring each other. So... we make a deal with one, but there is no guarantee that the deal holds because other splinter groups will say... nah... Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 12:57 AM (mP0Kj) 464
And now it appears Iran is ready to make a deal.
- Do they? All I've heard from them is demands for our unconditional surrender. Repeated right after Trump asserts that a deal is almost there. For weeks. Posted by: Methos at May 25, 2026 12:58 AM (vSvIl) 465
In fairness, they're trying to predict the behavior of muslims.
Posted by: mikeski flips a whole roll of coins at May 25, 2026 12:56 AM (VHUov) They will behave badly. It's a feature, you know. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:59 AM (8zz6B) 466
460 I like Coors beer. Not so much the Light, I'll drink it, but won't buy it. It's too light.
My brother wouldn't touch the stuff because he is convinced the brand contains lead and mercury in the water. I'm like, "Dude, you're retired and worried about that?" I'd be more worried about a frozen pizza. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:55 AM (D1E+2) I keep two beers around the house for normal everyday type drinkin... Coors Light for daytime next to the pool... 805s for evenin. Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 12:59 AM (mP0Kj) 467
The aircraft carriers are for the splinter groups.
Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 12:59 AM (RCjYY) 468
Apparently this week it will be constant rane, hele, thundre, litnin and frizzing colde.
Really bad spell of weather. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2026 01:00 AM (qx7Zg) 469
Rain keeps coming rain keeps coming down down down...
One fine day we will have sunshine, but rain in the forecast for the rest of the week. Two weeks ago we were in a drought. Now it's watch for flooding. If we get three straight days without rain we will be in a drought again. The weather people just say that so we can't burn brush piles Assholes. Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:02 AM (8XBuM) 470
@Osint613 - 13h
Netanyahu: "My policy, like President Trump's policy, remains unchanged: Iran will not have nuclear weapons." Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:04 AM (D2ex+) 471
It was getting pretty dry here, all over SC, (and GA, NC, FL). I was about 7" behind normal for the year. I've got 3.73" out of this last system, which is making a dent in that, but still behind over 3". So far, ground has soaked it up pretty good -- it hasn't come down fast enough for too much runoff yet. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 25, 2026 01:07 AM (w6EFb) 472
468 Apparently this week it will be constant rane, hele, thundre, litnin and frizzing colde.
Really bad spell of weather. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2026 01:00 AM (qx7Zg) Note, Wyoming and Colorado just experienced some first class Globull Warmering! Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 01:08 AM (mP0Kj) 473
Iranian negotiators are demanding the immediate release of $12 billion in frozen assets held in Qatar as a precondition for advancing talks with the USA.
The Qataris are clearly in talks with the IRGC, which is a designated terrorist organization, and are trying to bribe them into reaching an agreement. Source: Iran International ---- This is where the money talk is coming from? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:08 AM (D2ex+) 474
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 25, 2026 01:07 AM (w6EFb)
Calif was looking at a really low snow pack this year... until the last couple of months. Really late storms which really impacted the runoff. Yosemite's Falls are spectacular right now. Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 01:10 AM (mP0Kj) 475
Well, 2200 here, time for bed if I am going to get up at 0600. Night, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 01:10 AM (8zz6B) 476
>>>Coors Light for daytime next to the pool... 805s for evenin.
Posted by: Romeo13 >Truth be told, I'll drink any beer if offered. I used to take a case of Tecate to my barber whenever I needed a haircut. Then it got all fashionable, and the price doubled. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 01:11 AM (D1E+2) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:11 AM (D2ex+) 478
302 53 Tank demon beat me to it. Where’s Sambos on the list of lost chains. Basically they renamed them since Sambos was racist and many than closed down.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (2NHgQ) Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go. Posted by: firehorse at May 24, 2026 11:43 PM (YWQSq) Carrow's was another popular So. Cal eatery that apparently has bit the dust. Our local one is now a Pho place. Big Yellow House is gone too with Coco's not far behind. Marie's hangs in there however. Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:11 AM (QGaXH) 479
Iranian negotiators are demanding the immediate release of $12 billion in frozen assets held in Qatar as a precondition for advancing talks with the USA.
...... The check's in the mail. Launch code green. Fire at will. Posted by: wth at May 25, 2026 01:14 AM (oq9dX) 480
20-year-old Ava Rahmani-Rad was murdered by the Islamic regime in Iran while protesting for a free Iran on the streets of Tehran on January 9th 2026.
She was shot in the neck. Security forces kept firing on anyone trying to run up to her to stop the bleeding. --- If we don't kill them now they will come for us again. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:14 AM (D2ex+) 481
>>Do they?
If not the blockade isn't going anywhere and we have enough fire power on the doorstep to blow Iran into oblivion. I'm ok with Iran being choked to death and none of our side being killed until they relent. Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 01:14 AM (viF8m) 482
323 the (EPA) said Sunday that a chemical storage tank in Southern California is likely to fail and has forced officials to declare emergency evacuation orders for tens of thousands residents
... “We’re being told that the tank will fail, but there are different scenarios as to what that means, the most catastrophic scenario being an explosion that results in other tanks to explode. That’s the reason why you see such a big evacuation that’s been done in the surrounding areas.” The malfunctioning tank holds approximately 5,000 to 7,000 gallons of methyl methacrylate, a flammable and volatile chemical used in plastics manufacturing for aerospace applications. ... 50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:51 PM (D2ex+) 7 or 8 miles due north of me. We'll be ok as long as the winds don't reverse..... Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:15 AM (QGaXH) 483
So, this happened: found a Motorola cellphone on the ground in my yard today, here in AJ. Glass over screen is smashed, but it boots up Android, and indicates its on the T-Mobile network. Wants a PIN to get into it. Touch screen still works.
Would ADBridge let me get into the phone and reset the password? Mostly wondering if it would help me find the phone's rightful owner. Any suggestions? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ---- 911 should work. They will be able to ID the number and alert T-Mobile. If the owner hasn't reported it lost/stolen, they could get it back that way. If it's been reported, it's done for. The IEMI # is marked in a national database forever, no carrier will connect to it. 911 always works, on any cellphone. Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 01:17 AM (mSL0+) 484
If we don't kill them now they will come for us again.
Posted by: Braenyard -------- The only way to be safe is to eliminate the threat. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 01:17 AM (XeU6L) 485
>Truth be told, I'll drink any beer if offered. I used to take a case of Tecate to my barber whenever I needed a haircut. Then it got all fashionable, and the price doubled. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone ---------- Uh...have you ever tried Narragansett? Only beerI ever abandoned on a picnic table. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 01:20 AM (XeU6L) 486
I wouldn't give Iran two cents. How about the countries they have attacked? Give the money to them to rebuild.
Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:20 AM (8XBuM) 487
We've been under a cold air damming setup the past couple of days. RH around 100% in the mornings, making for some heavy fog. The GSP boys have used the highly technical and arcane meteorological term "pea soup" to describe it. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 25, 2026 01:21 AM (w6EFb) 488
Still a Marie Callender's close to me. Last close Coco's closed a few years ago. Carrows was I think mostly north of SD County.
Don't remember the Sambo's in Santa Barbara, can't picture it. And the Big Yellow House just south in Summerland wasn't a chain, was it? Biggest loss in Santa Barbara was, for me, Guadalajara, on lower State Street. Only chorizo enchiladas I've ever encountered, fantastic. Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 01:23 AM (U/Byj) 489
So, this happened: found a Motorola cellphone on the ground in my yard today, here in AJ. Glass over screen is smashed, but it boots up Android, and indicates its on the T-Mobile network. Wants a PIN to get into it. Touch screen still works.
Would ADBridge let me get into the phone and reset the password? Mostly wondering if it would help me find the phone's rightful owner. Any suggestions? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ---- 911 should work. They will be able to ID the number and alert T-Mobile. If the owner hasn't reported it lost/stolen, they could get it back that way. If it's been reported, it's done for. The IEMI # is marked in a national database forever, no carrier will connect to it. 911 always works, on any cellphone. Posted by: buddhaha I would think the safest thing to do there would be to take it to the cops, and let them dial 911 on it. No sense dispatching a bunch of flashing lights to your neighborhood for a missing phone. If you call and then find out that it's not just a cracked screen..... the microphone doesn't work, so they think you're kidnapped or choking to death or something. Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 01:26 AM (VHUov) 490
If not the blockade isn't going anywhere and we have enough fire power on the doorstep to blow Iran into oblivion.
- It's all worthless if Trump doesn't have the stomach to use it. The Iranian regime's behavior suggests that they believe that to be the case. They don't seem to much care about our blockade either. I know this will come as news to people who are accustomed to a society where we demand lower interest rates so that we can more easily live on borrowed money, but some people are sufficiently disciplined that they can make do with less if that's necessary to achieve the goals that matter to them. Posted by: Methos at May 25, 2026 01:26 AM (vSvIl) 491
389 I worked in a Winn Dixie. Never trusted the butchers.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:19 AM (qrzX6) One of my son's was in elementary school when the 'Because of Winn Dixie' book and movie came out. Several of his school buddies were surprised to learn there really was such a chain. Then I told them about Piggly Wiggly..... Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:26 AM (QGaXH) 492
I think most of those chains were regional. Can’t say I remember any of them. I always thought of Howard Johnson as a hotel rather than a restaurant.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 01:29 AM (po3Ws) 493
Alan Dershowitz left the Democrat party a few months ago. He said he was just cutting loose, going indie. About a week ago he announced he's now Republican. Says he's 87 but he'll do what he can. I think he could do a lot by talking to older people who hesitate to change lifelong (bad) habits. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:29 AM (n7rxJ) 494
430 In Florida we used to go to Bonanza Steak House....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (QGaXH) They had a similar chain called The Ponderosa . Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:39 AM (qrzX6) Could have been Ponderosa and my parents just referred to it as Bonanza...memory fades....wish now I'd paid a lot more attention to some things..... Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:32 AM (QGaXH) 495
Old Milwaukee was a buck and a half for a six-pack at the base exchange, so it was my drink of choice when I was a poor, broke airman.
Posted by: a.moron at May 24, 2026 10:24 Old Mil was my fave as a broke college kid. A special in 1974 was a six pack for 1.99. Cheap beers not mentioned were Buckhorn; Red, White and Blue; and Leinenkugels. You could get a 12 pack of Leinie bottles, then return all the bottles for 12 cents. Being broke college kids we kept a stash of the empties in the kitchen corner for emergency beer purchases. Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at May 25, 2026 01:32 AM (55Qr6) 496
I'll let you guys know if I hear a really loud explosion to the north....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:33 AM (QGaXH) 497
Second thoughts: Something's going on that we don't know anything about. We are having ZERO contention from Israel. Netanyahu is a happy camper. Netanyahu and most of Israel want to be rid of the Iranians and they both agree Iran will have no uranium.
Meanwhile Trump is realigning the world and there's not too much attention on Netanyahu cleaning up Gaza and Lebanon. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:34 AM (D2ex+) 498
Could have been Ponderosa and my parents just referred to it as Bonanza...memory fades....wish now I'd paid a lot more attention to some things.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia Both existed; they're owned by the same company now. Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 01:34 AM (VHUov) 499
434 ARiK don't think those chains made it south of the Orange Curtain. Oscar's was a local star that faded away. Of course Jack in the Box started here but didn't go national til the 80s, I think?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:40 AM (U/Byj) I remember Jack being in upstate NY in the mid-70's Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:34 AM (QGaXH) 500
496 I'll let you guys know if I hear a really loud explosion to the north....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) -- Pull drapes over the widows. Flying glass and all that. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:37 AM (D2ex+) 501
469 Rain keeps coming rain keeps coming down down down...
One fine day we will have sunshine, but rain in the forecast for the rest of the week. Two weeks ago we were in a drought. Now it's watch for flooding. If we get three straight days without rain we will be in a drought again. The weather people just say that so we can't burn brush piles Assholes. Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:02 AM (8XBuM) Who'll stop the rain? Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:40 AM (QGaXH) 502
>>It's all worthless if Trump doesn't have the stomach to use it.
Seems kind of a stretch to me after watching what Trump did in both his first term with ISIS and the ME and this term in Venezuela and the infamous drug boats he routinely blows to shit to say he doesn't have the stomach to kill our enemies when he thinks that is the right action. He's already sunk Iran's navy, blown up much of their missile capability and destroyed most of their industrial capacity to rearm. He obviously wants to negotiate the end of this one and so far has united pretty much the rest of the Middle East to go along. And I bet he has China, that needs Iran's oil, deeply involved. But if the negotiations ultimately fail he still has the military power to end it. It's been a few months not a few years and the elections are months away. Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 01:40 AM (viF8m) 503
493
Alan Dershowitz left the Democrat party a few months ago. He said he was just cutting loose, going indie. About a week ago he announced he's now Republican. Says he's 87 but he'll do what he can. I think he could do a lot by talking to older people who hesitate to change lifelong (bad) habits. Posted by: Blonde Morticia --- Have dinner with Trump and discover he's not a boar. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:41 AM (D2ex+) 504
Thousands and thousands of Californians being evacuated?
What's the super hard working smart Governor doing about it? Oh, not his problem huh? I guess it's Trump's fault or something. Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:42 AM (8XBuM) 505
205 156 OK, here is a fashion question.
I'm fairly thin and I have no hips. So when I buy jeans invariably they get loose after a couple of washes and while I can always use a belt its not the most comfortable thing in the world. Am I just buying crappy brands of jeans? Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM Jeans bagging out can be a problem, especially jeans with stretch, but you might be buying them too big to start. If you can handle the break in, find 100% cotton, like zero stretch at all, in the slimmest fit you can handle. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (p4NUW) I know almost nothing about fashion, but (for hormonal reasons) I remembered Kate Moss in jeans, so I looked it up and they were Calvin Klein in the early '90s. Brave AI summary allows follow-up questions, so I found they're still making jeans, and even have some '90s throwback styles available. Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 01:42 AM (Sy6m/) 506
488 Still a Marie Callender's close to me. Last close Coco's closed a few years ago. Carrows was I think mostly north of SD County.
Don't remember the Sambo's in Santa Barbara, can't picture it. And the Big Yellow House just south in Summerland wasn't a chain, was it? Biggest loss in Santa Barbara was, for me, Guadalajara, on lower State Street. Only chorizo enchiladas I've ever encountered, fantastic. Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 01:23 AM (U/Byj) I thought there were more than one Big Yellow House. The building was/is still there off the 101. I recall Carrow's saying they started in Santa Barbara. I believe Sambo's became Denny's after the unpleasantness. Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:46 AM (QGaXH) Posted by: 13times at May 25, 2026 01:49 AM (4hs6d) 508
It might be the electro-mechanical timer. It is the one part that could mean an intermittent fault.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (rbvCR) Maybe you're living in a movie (possibly Japanese), and the Spirit of the Device is just happier in the back yard. Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 01:50 AM (Sy6m/) 509
500 496 I'll let you guys know if I hear a really loud explosion to the north....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) -- Pull drapes over the widows. Flying glass and all that. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:37 AM (D2ex+) Thank you for good advice. Usually sleep with drapes closed. I live in a densely populated area - house to the north is about 10' away. Should be well shielded. Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:51 AM (QGaXH) 510
Everything is playing out, as expected.
The world and global commerce cannot be sustained with timid diplomacy. The players have to step up to accept their stake in their livelihood. We will facilitate; you must act. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 01:53 AM (D1E+2) 511
Trump having no guts lol. He sent Rubio to India a week after changing immigration laws so that they have to go home to apply for a Green Card. The howls of entitled outrage about that on X are eye-splitting. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:54 AM (n7rxJ) 512
Finally finished cooking enough for tomorrow me and for my parents and for a little potluck at my aunt and uncle's, so now I can just relax. (That's why I've been intermittent.) Whew.
Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 01:55 AM (Sy6m/) 513
Is there anyone left who even knows what I'm talking about?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 24, 2026 10:38 Oh yes, Miss Tammy. It was right around the time I first started reading here. I'm guessing maybe Memorial Day 2011? Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at May 25, 2026 01:55 AM (55Qr6) 514
502 >>It's all worthless if Trump doesn't have the stomach to use it......
.....It's been a few months not a few years and the elections are months away. Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 01:40 AM (viF8m) Civil War was 4 years (?) WW11 was about 3 years 8 months Viet Nam was what - 7 or 8 years of several hundred dead coming home every month? I could go on. Now we want it done in a few weeks? Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:56 AM (QGaXH) 515
513 Is there anyone left who even knows what I'm talking about?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 24, 2026 10:38 Oh yes, Miss Tammy. It was right around the time I first started reading here. I'm guessing maybe Memorial Day 2011? Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at May 25, 2026 01:55 AM (55Qr6) Before my time - I think I started haunting this place around 2014 or 15..... Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:58 AM (QGaXH) 516
>>Trump having no guts lol. He sent Rubio to India a week after changing immigration laws so that they have to go home to apply for a Green Card.
>>The howls of entitled outrage about that on X are eye-splitting. He did it almost as Rubio was landing in India. And it has been wild watching mostly Indian accounts freak out on X. I think it's a huge mistake to focus on any one thing Trump does in foreign relations and not see he is completely changing the playing field. Trump doesn't just know how to use the military, he knows how to use all the levers of power. Ask Hasan Piker. Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 02:03 AM (viF8m) 517
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:54 AM (n7rxJ)
I believe he actually just started enforcing the laws as written, which makes the outrage reek even more of entitlement. Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 02:04 AM (Sy6m/) 518
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@RealJamesWoods Will Republicans ever have what it takes to indict this Trojan Horse? Michelle has more balls than the entire Republican caucus in the Senate. --- his is the world’s number-one sponsor of terror. Barack Obama took $400 million in untraceable cash from something called the “Judgment Fund,” which is administered by the U.S. Department of the Treasury. That little-known account is funded entirely by American taxpayers and was set up so he could bypass congressional approval to send cash — effectively a ransom — to the world’s number-two sponsor of terror, the terror regime of Iran. Part of this cash Barack Obama diverted through the UAE to Italy to fund—involving Leonardo S.p.A. military satellites to hack U.S. voting machines, flipping votes from Trump to Biden, which ultimately toppled the United States government on November 3, 2020 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:07 AM (D2ex+) 519
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A further $1.3 billion was transferred in a series of 13 transfers of $99,999,999.99 from the Treasury Department’s Judgment Fund. Each transfer was one cent less than the $100 million limit imposed on such transfers. A member of his syndicate, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, pleaded the Fifth when questioned on the matter by the U.S. Congress. 📝 By the way, Barack Obama is founder of ISIL. All paid by the American taxpayer. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:07 AM (D2ex+) 520
>>>Trump doesn't just know how to use the military, he knows how to use all the levers of power.
Ask Hasan Piker. Posted by: JackStraw --- He will kill when he thinks it's necessary but he'd rather not. I think allowing Iran time to dick around gives him time to reposition the world and Netanyahu time to do unencumbered cleanup. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:12 AM (D2ex+) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:21 AM (D2ex+) 522
I think allowing Iran time to dick around gives him time to reposition the world and Netanyahu time to do unencumbered cleanup.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:12 AM (D2ex+) - A lot more is needed here than cleanup. Right now very unimpressed with Trump and more so with Netanyahu. I can only hope for good surprises but not counting on anything anymore. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:24 AM (XyZGq) 523
Parents gave their kids just 4 minutes to figure out how to use a rotary dial phone.
The confusion was instant. Gen Z vs old school tech is pretty hilarious -- https://tinyurl.com/5bp6pek6 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:28 AM (D2ex+) 524
A lot more is needed here than cleanup.
Right now very unimpressed with Trump and more so with Netanyahu. I can only hope for good surprises but not counting on anything anymore. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, --- How many does he have to kill a day in order to qualify as cleanup? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:30 AM (D2ex+) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:32 AM (D2ex+) 526
How many does he have to kill a day in order to qualify as cleanup?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:30 AM (D2ex+) - Needed to have made Gaza and S. Lebanon Muslim free and declared them sovereign Israel land for eternity. Anything else is a retreat with our tail between our legs and just another delay till the next round. This should have been done 40 years ago. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:42 AM (XyZGq) 527
Cheap beer? I recall buying Chief Oskosh for $2.05 for an 8-pack. I see that they closed in 1971.
Image of the can that I recall: https://shorturl.at/DXeVM Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (XeU6L) You drank the Chief—-the premium stuff. We, the lower class, drank Rahr’s. Posted by: Voter theater. at May 25, 2026 02:43 AM (FCPbW) 528
A LOT of these nostalgia beers we're discussing tonight were not nimble enough to work around (& survive) the brewery industry's yuuge consolidation.
Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:16 PM (RCjYY) I remember reading about that some time ago, when the craft breweries took off like crazy here in Oregon. The executive summary is that the patchwork crazy quilt of laws made distribution the decisive competitive advantage, which inevitably led to consolidation, and low character and short-sightedness led them to cheap out on hops since taste didn't affect profit. Their hops got worse all the time in both quality and quantity; they settled on concentrates made from oversized Washington hops, purely just a bittering agent rather than flavor per se, and then steadily used less and less of it every year as their competition dwindled. That went on for decades, until eventually they were all such crap that it set the stage for everyone to prefer any microbrew over any legacy lager. Their crass venality and lack of pride in their work planted the seeds of their own future diminishment, but I can't complain about the ultimate result of delicious craft beers out the ying-yang. Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (Sy6m/) 529
These Hollywood megalomaniacs are so full of themselves.
Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!! https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (XyZGq) 530
Show some class and put in the front yard.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:22 LMAO, spoken like a true Moron. Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (55Qr6) 531
486 I wouldn't give Iran two cents. How about the countries they have attacked? Give the money to them to rebuild.
Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:20 AM (8XBuM I’d give Iran two cents, provided I’m getting oil. And that Iran is governed by sane people. Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 03:07 AM (po3Ws) 532
Well, that's what I was waiting for: an actual lawyer weighs in on the Fender demand letter fiasco.
Blues Lawyer Confessional - A Lawyer explains the Fender Strat situation... https://youtu.be/NOdaTPZROM0 There's a stereotype that guitars that look good on your wall are for "blues dentists" and "blues lawyers", so I didn't bother to watch any of the plethora of videos by the usual demo & review guys. It was only a matter of time until someone with relevant knowledge of the law would break it down, and there you go. Bottom line: it's a PR disaster with no benefit for Fender, since they overreached, and (aside from stress and potential legal fees) it's likely not a problem for anyone else. Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 03:10 AM (Sy6m/) 533
347 I don't know how people think of the late 60's to mid 70's were any type of golden days.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:00 AM (qrzX6) I'm guessing you didn't get the white go-go boots with the fringe, or the Huffy with the ape hanger bars and the banana seat. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2026 03:11 AM (DwqWV) 534
Time for some bourbon. A memorial drink to those who sacrificed some, and to those who sacrificed all.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:12 AM (snZF9) 535
529 These Hollywood megalomaniacs are so full of themselves.
Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!! https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (XyZGq) What a self-important horse's ass. It was a bullshit show that lost money, but he's claiming it was some grand scheme that served humanity. I'm willing to bet his mom never spanked him, but he probably got beat up on the playground a few times. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2026 03:14 AM (DwqWV) 536
534 Time for some bourbon. A memorial drink to those who sacrificed some, and to those who sacrificed all.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:12 AM (snZF9) Now let's do something substantive to keep from allowing asshats to take away what they fought and died for, shall we? Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2026 03:15 AM (DwqWV) 537
There's a stereotype that guitars that look good on your wall are for "blues dentists" and "blues lawyers", so I didn't bother to watch any of the plethora of videos by the usual demo & review guys.
Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 03:10 AM (Sy6m/) Those review guys can all lick my ass. Most of them are worthless retards. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:15 AM (snZF9) 538
Way too early to get up
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 03:17 AM (Ia/+0) 539
Howard Johnson, Farrell's, I ate at. Red Barn and Burger Chef I had seen driving about. On beer we were usually "slummin' it" with Busch, although Old Milwaukee and Schlitz were not unheard of. Someone mentioned Stroh's? Yeah we drank that too. I think they had a commercial with a car and a dog yes? I liked those commercials.
Someone mentioned A&W? Those are still around and still damn good. Good riddance to Massie - what an absolute douche-nozzle. Now if my fellow Texians and I can oust Cornyn and a large object can fall on "Thom" Tillis and Murkowski we should be in good shape. (wtf btw is with the spelling of "Thom" - another @ss-clown). Posted by: Publius Redux at May 25, 2026 03:19 AM (/aZwr) 540
Way too early to get up
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 03:17 AM (Ia/+0) - Waking up can potentially cause various physical and emotional side effects. Ask your doctor if waking up is for you. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 03:20 AM (XyZGq) 541
Skip, any progress on unstucking the tailgate?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 03:21 AM (XyZGq) 542
Good riddance to Massie - what an absolute douche-nozzle. Now if my fellow Texians and I can oust Cornyn and a large object can fall on "Thom" Tillis and Murkowski we should be in good shape. (wtf btw is with the spelling of "Thom" - another @ss-clown).
Posted by: Publius Redux at May 25, 2026 03:19 AM (/aZwr) Thom is the fag version of Tom. Like 2 gay dudes introducing themselves. One says my name is thom. Shit like that. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:23 AM (snZF9) 543
White House Communications Director, Steven Cheung had a few words to say about Mike Pompeo: "Mike Pompeo has no idea what the f*ck he’s talking about. He should shut his stupid mouth and leave the real work to the professionals. He’s not read into anything that’s happening, so how would he know." Posted by: Braenyard ================ Did Pompeo shoot his mouth off about something? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 03:26 AM (n7rxJ) 544
The Weekend White House shooter left behind a few hints on his Twitter account:
https://tinyurl.com/3ec2pua6 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 03:27 AM (XyZGq) 545
Cheung, in his capacity as Com. Dir doesn't give public statements like this very often. BUT every single one I've seen had profanity included. He must be hilarious around the White House. The man doesn't sugar coat it. Posted by: Orson ============= Plus, he looks like Oddjob. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 03:27 AM (n7rxJ) 546
Did Pompeo shoot his mouth off about something?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 03:26 AM (n7rxJ) - https://tinyurl.com/ys9vvdte Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 03:28 AM (XyZGq) 547
523 Parents gave their kids just 4 minutes to figure out how to use a rotary dial phone.
The confusion was instant. Gen Z vs old school tech is pretty hilarious -- https://tinyurl.com/5bp6pek6 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:28 AM (D2ex+) ; ) Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 03:29 AM (6wpGE) 548
Those review guys can all lick my ass. Most of them are worthless retards.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:15 AM (snZF9) Harsh, but I can picture it from your point of view. Scott Uhl is the only one I can think of who reviews actual stage gear from a working tour guitarist's perspective. But then, that isn't really a mass market; so it's mostly home-studio players reviewing gear for beginners, and getting a cut through affiliate links. Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 03:31 AM (Sy6m/) 549
Iran we control the strait of hormuz not you taco when we say jump you ask how high!
Posted by: jojo at May 25, 2026 03:36 AM (7i3Fm) 550
I keep two beers around the house for normal everyday type drinkin...
Coors Light for daytime next to the pool... 805s for evenin. Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 12:59 AM (mP0Kj) When back home in Texas, I drink Shiner Bock, always keep some around, in bottles. And Woodford Reserve on the Bourbon side. I actually have some Woodford Reserve at my apartment here in Singapore. When i was younger I would keep some Miller High Life in bottles around, and always super cold, for those hot days in summer (It's the champagne of beers dontchyaknow!). I never liked Miller Light - but the regular Miller was pretty good for the price point. Posted by: Publius Redux at May 25, 2026 03:40 AM (/aZwr) 551
Harsh, but I can picture it from your point of view. Scott Uhl is the only one I can think of who reviews actual stage gear from a working tour guitarist's perspective. But then, that isn't really a mass market; so it's mostly home-studio players reviewing gear for beginners, and getting a cut through affiliate links.
Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 03:31 AM (Sy6m/) Right, most are home studio players without a fucking clue. There are a few that are ok, but a lot are retards. i watched a dude doing a comparison of a real Gibson les paul custom against some chinese pos copy. The dude had no clue what a gibson is. He's got some reissue from the custom shop, he's holding the tail piece and says this feels light and cheap, for the money it costs you would think it was be better metal. Um, ok retard, #1. its a reissue of a vintage guitar. They used aluminum tail pieces back then, they have a distinct sound. We begged Gibson for decades to reissue the aluminum tail piece, and they finally did. Now I gotta hear stupid dumb fuck millennial neck beards question the lightness and tells gibson it should be heavier because he has no fucking clue what he's holding. Thats just one example. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:42 AM (snZF9) 552
>>> When i was younger I would keep some Miller High Life in bottles around, and always super cold, for those hot days in summer (It's the champagne of beers dontchyaknow!). I never liked Miller Light - but the regular Miller was pretty good for the price point.
Posted by: Publius Redux >My mother still likes to have a Miller High Life on occasion. She's 92 years old. If it's good enough for her, it's good enough for me. Not a bad beer. There is nothing heavy about it. She will also drink a Corona from time to time. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 04:08 AM (D1E+2) 553
These Hollywood megalomaniacs are so full of themselves.
Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!! https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (XyZGq) What a self-important horse's ass. It was a bullshit show that lost money, but he's claiming it was some grand scheme that served humanity. I'm willing to bet his mom never spanked him, but he probably got beat up on the playground a few times. Posted by: tcn in AK ----- I read the whole thing. This "Master of the Universe" swims in the sea of Manhattan. He'd flop like a fish out of water anywhere else, with the possible exception of Hollywood. He'd have a repeat of the playground experience in San Antonio, or Butte, or Indianapolis. If he tried his "people manipulation skills" in a bar in rural anywhere, he'd be picking up teeth in the parking lot. Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 04:11 AM (mSL0+) 554
https://tinyurl.com/ys9vvdte Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey =============== ::eyeroll:: I wonder if he'll take credit when Trump walks away with all the cards. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 04:11 AM (n7rxJ) Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:13 AM (XyZGq) 556
Beers up above? Falstaff
Missing restaurants: Burger Chef = Burger King Pup & Taco looks too much like What-a-burger White Tower looks like a rip-off of White Castle Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 04:20 AM (2PamV) 557
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These Hollywood megalomaniacs are so full of themselves.
Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!! https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (XyZGq) I mean, he's OCD and all but I feel his pain. Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:23 AM (6wpGE) 559
Pixy's up!
Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE) 560
Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!!
https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey Being proud of losing $40 million dollars a year is not the flex he thinks it is. Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 04:31 AM (2PamV) 561
I don't see him being proud of it:
We lost $40 million a year. We didn't lose it because the show failed. We lost it because we spent $50 million producing what a podcast host in his garage gives away between mattress ads. The podcast is funnier. The podcast is more dangerous. The podcast has an audience that laughs instead of claps. Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:33 AM (6wpGE) 562
Aw, this was a very nice post. Spending some time and actual effort to produce a very good article… but what can I say… I put things off a lot and never seem to get nearly anything done.
Posted by: Read Full Article at May 25, 2026 06:27 AM (npnpX) 563
Doof, I spent a lot of time at the Golden Ring Mall during my teenage years, 74-79. Where did you go to high school?
Posted by: Hammer Dog at May 25, 2026 06:45 AM (hrMAo) 564
Can the fashion maven recommend men's jeans for a fancy night out? I've got the dress shirt and the shoes down but jeans remain a problem.
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CONTENT!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:00 PM (QrtBZ) 2
Bang
Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 07:00 PM (LHPAg) 3
Yay! Gubs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:00 PM (Wnv9h) 4
on time, to the second!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 07:00 PM (VyBeY) 5
Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks Weasel as always for the forum!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:00 PM (t2oSI) 6
Scoob!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:02 PM (Wnv9h) 7
Hello folks.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 07:02 PM (CHHv1) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 07:02 PM (VyBeY) 9
4 on time, to the second!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 07:00 PM (VyBeY) Almost like some people appreciate the Fundamentals of Time! Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 24, 2026 07:03 PM (hOUT3) 10
RMBS!!! Getting ready for the MoMe?
I cleaned the rifle yesterday and also ordered some ammo that should arrive next week. :-) Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:04 PM (QrtBZ) 11
RMBS!!! Getting ready for the MoMe?
I cleaned the rifle yesterday and also ordered some ammo that should arrive next week. :-) Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:04 PM Oh, hell yeah. Rifles ready. Might even check zero next weekend. Family obligations have prevented range time this weekend. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:06 PM (Wnv9h) 12
Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 07:06 PM (Ia/+0) 13
Evenin', Skip.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:07 PM (Wnv9h) 14
Watching the Sodium Reactor Experiment Construction video and cringing a bit at the technicians just casually loading uranium slugs into the fuel rods, protected only by the kind of clear plastic gloves that bakers use. Guess OSHA was yet to be unleashed upon that lab.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:07 PM (t2oSI) 15
Evening, Weasel, et al!
What MoMe is this? Have y’all been hiding something from me?! Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:09 PM (UxbHU) 16
Evening, Weasel, et al!
What MoMe is this? Have y’all been hiding something from me?! Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:09 PM ( Double sekret MoMe. Moose Out Front shoulda told ya. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:12 PM (Wnv9h) 17
Interesting pair of younger (30s) women at the range this past week. Both dual citizens (US-Israel, UK-Israel). American had been a sniper instructor in the IDF. They were shooting an M1A1.
Brit was marveling at the range complex and all the regular people shooting all kinds of guns, said in the UK, nuh-uh, nothing like it. Told her friend to take her to the biggest local gun store, so she could really be taken aback. They had already planned to do that. I shared one story from the past, in a different America (without the ignorant and ridiculous anti-gun obsessions), and even the American was amazed. Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 07:14 PM (U/Byj) 18
Watching the Sodium Reactor Experiment Construction video and cringing a bit at the technicians just casually loading uranium slugs into the fuel rods, protected only by the kind of clear plastic gloves that bakers use. Guess OSHA was yet to be unleashed upon that lab. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy Wonder what eventually happened to those guys? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM (Cqx++) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM (VyBeY) 20
RMBS, I’m out at my secret Evil Villain Island Lair, but will get back in time to mow the grass.
And to do Evil Villain prep stuff for Evil Black Rifle familiarization. Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM (UxbHU) 21
14 Guess OSHA was yet to be unleashed upon that lab.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:07 PM May I introduce to you Operation Plumbob https://tinyurl.com/54t8w3t7 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:16 PM (QrtBZ) 22
RMBS, I’m out at my secret Evil Villain Island Lair, but will get back in time to mow the grass.
And to do Evil Villain prep stuff for Evil Black Rifle familiarization. Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM *fistbump* Lawn mowing and Scary Black Rifle prep happening soon. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:18 PM (Wnv9h) 23
Wonder what eventually happened to those guys?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM (Cqx++) Given the year (195 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:19 PM (t2oSI) 24
Inadvertent emoji above - I meant to say 1958
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:20 PM (t2oSI) 25
Given the year (195, I'm guessing they went home and fathered three-headed Boomer offspring.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:19 PM This is about me, isn't it? Posted by: J. Random Moron at May 24, 2026 07:20 PM (0sNs1) 26
May I introduce to you Operation Plumbob
https://tinyurl.com/54t8w3t7 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:16 PM (QrtBZ) Love the Fat Electrician! I heard him talk about the manhole cover on the Unsubscribe podcast, but I'm looking forward to the rest of the video. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:22 PM (t2oSI) 27
17, yeah, rhomboid, it was a different world in the Before Time ... the other day I was telling a couple of young folk who were going to go trap shooting this weekend about riding bicycles with cased shotguns through Lincoln Park to the lakefront trap/skeet range back in the 80s.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 07:23 PM (VyBeY) 28
Harry Callahan treated shooting as a match: Heavy double action revolver, light special load. Try it yourself. Four to six inch Model 29 loaded with off the shelf .44 Special compared to a Model 1917 .45 ACP with 230 grain ball or the 125 gr JHP .357 Magnum. Its OK, I have my boomer card on me.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 24, 2026 07:27 PM (YlWIZ) 29
*Puts on hat*
*goes looking for Doof* Posted by: Perry the Platapus at May 24, 2026 07:29 PM (xcxpd) 30
28 Harry Callahan treated shooting as a match: Heavy double action revolver, light special load. Try it yourself. Four to six inch Model 29 loaded with off the shelf .44 Special compared to a Model 1917 .45 ACP with 230 grain ball or the 125 gr JHP .357 Magnum. Its OK, I have my boomer card on me.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey The recoil on the 357 125gr is not bad in the same weight of revolver compared to the 44 Special or 45 ACP. Blast is what is a pita which gets worse the shorter the barrel is. Well behaved in a carbine length barrel while adding about 400-500 fps or more while the 44 Special or 45 ACP don't gain maybe 150-200 if lucky. 44 Magnum in a carbine is a different story as is the 41. Slower burning powders benefit from longer barrels. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:32 PM (E4rtv) 31
Howdy
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at May 24, 2026 07:33 PM (sAmhv) 32
Love the Fat Electrician! I heard him talk about the manhole cover on the Unsubscribe podcast, but I'm looking forward to the rest of the video.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:22 PM He just posted a new WWI video. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:33 PM (Wnv9h) 33
Hello, Weasel! USS Seawolf (SSN-575), a half sister to the more famous USS Nautilus (SSN-571), was originally built with a liquid sodium reactor. Commissioned in March 1957, she went through two years of trials before the liquid sodium reactor was judged unsuccessful. Seawolf went back to the yard for removal of the liquid sodium reactor. It was replaced with a pressurized water plant similar to that fitted to the Nautilus.
Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 07:33 PM (BCwQW) 34
On fundamentals, dry fire only.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:37 PM (E4rtv) 35
20 And to do Evil Villain prep stuff for Evil Black Rifle familiarization.
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM Looking forward to it!! Was fooling around yesterday with the Kestral app on my phone setting up the rifle and bullet specs. Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:38 PM (QrtBZ) 36
The American Sodium Reactor Experiment did not, alas, have a happy ending: https://tinyurl.com/5fkarwsd
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:38 PM (t2oSI) 37
The boy in front sounds like Weasel, in many ways. The last point probably doesn't.
https://tinyurl.com/4r8pvn83+ Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 07:39 PM (qx7Zg) 38
> The American Sodium Reactor Experiment did not, alas, have a happy ending...
_______ I haven't looked, but is this the same technology the Soviets used for the Alpha class SSN? Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 07:40 PM (jehhT) 39
The recoil on the 357 125gr is not bad in the same weight of revolver compared to the 44 Special or 45 ACP. Blast is what is a pita which gets worse the shorter the barrel is. Well behaved in a carbine length barrel while adding about 400-500 fps or more while the 44 Special or 45 ACP don't gain maybe 150-200 if lucky. 44 Magnum in a carbine is a different story as is the 41. Slower burning powders benefit from longer barrels.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:32 PM There is iron in the words of whig for all Morons to see. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 07:41 PM (0sNs1) 40
26 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:22 PM
I am subscribed to his channel and even bought some merch. Love the S.T.E.A.L. t-shirt. FYI, for October I plan on getting there on Thursday. Have the hotel booked for Thurs to Sun. Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:41 PM (QrtBZ) 41
I bought a lever action 22LR. Henry Sporter, really looking forward to picking it up next week.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 07:41 PM (P4bJX) 42
How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Fourth May Edition?
Weasel, may the Fourth be with you! Posted by: The Fourth Shot at May 24, 2026 07:42 PM (0sNs1) 43
Good evening to everyone of the GunHorde and, as always, a bigly thank you to Weasel. Thank you for all the revolver content. Very helpful.
And for Memorial Day, for those who laid down their lives for us, and for those who have served, may we honor them by our actions. Posted by: Coelacanth at May 24, 2026 07:43 PM (DJPFk) 44
Good evening all
Solved a big problem this week. As I mentioned last week, I'd fallen in love with this pistol owned by SRA Blaster, the Kimber CDS9. The problem was the 15 rd mag which is prohibited in MD. Not to own it, just to buy it. My FFL said I'll sell it to you but I can't give you the mags.I called my range which sells guns in VA and they helped me resolve this and gave me a better price on the gun. And there's more. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 07:44 PM (kJmSS) 45
29 *Puts on hat*
*goes looking for Doof* Posted by: Perry the Platapus at May 24, 2026 07:29 PM (xcxpd) You won't find me until you learn how to spell better Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 07:44 PM (QMAsf) 46
The recoil on the 357 125gr is not bad in the same weight of revolver compared to the 44 Special or 45 ACP. Blast is what is a pita which gets worse the shorter the barrel is. Well behaved in a carbine length barrel while adding about 400-500 fps or more while the 44 Special or 45 ACP don't gain maybe 150-200 if lucky. 44 Magnum in a carbine is a different story as is the 41. Slower burning powders benefit from longer barrels.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:32 PM (E4rtv) Whig is 100% right on muzzle blast and short barrels. 125 grain .357 Magnums out of a 6" barrel Python are quite controllable. 4" is a bit of handful, but still controllable. 3" and 2.5" snubbies are completely unmanageable and a very unpleasant experience. Hokey Pokey, I have a pre-Model 29 (1957 manufacture, I think) that is quite controllable with .44 Special. I also have a Colt New Service from 1914 in .45 Long Colt. Although I haven't shot them head to head, I think the pre-Model 29 is better because it has (for me) better ergonomics. The "coke bottle" grips fit my hands pretty well, and the length of the reach to the trigger for my index finger works better on the S&W than the Colt. Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 07:45 PM (BCwQW) 47
Posted by: Perry the Platapus at May 24, 2026 07:29 PM (xcxpd)
You won't find me until you learn how to spell better Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 07:44 PM "Be careful what you ask for." -- Perry the Platÿpus Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 07:46 PM (0sNs1) 48
There is iron in the words of whig for all Morons to see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax One could do far worse than having a lever action 357 Magnum carbine matched with a 357 Magnum revolver, especially in unfree states. The old cowboy trick of carrying a carbine and revolver that shot the same ammo still works, especially in places where you have all kinds of crap rules to buy ammo and having to deal with assault rifle or semi auto bans. Only deficit that a lever action has is difficult to shoot and operate in prone position. Easy to reload the ammo for it too if worst comes to worst and you can shoot 38 Specials in them for low recoil and blast practice. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:46 PM (E4rtv) Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 07:47 PM (QMAsf) 50
"Only deficit that a lever action has is difficult to shoot and operate in prone position."
Is that why Lucas McCain often went into a barrel roll in a gunfight? Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:48 PM (vFG9F) 51
There are two CDS9's that are sight ready. SRA Blaster's has a fancy grip which makes the price higher. The CDS9 Classic has a plain grip. Turns out the range has one for rent so I'll be able to see if the grip makes my difference in how well I shoot.
So win/win thanks to Range person Amy who answered all my questions promptly on price and features and Blaster for invaluable technical assistance and letting me borrow SRA Blaster's gun. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 07:48 PM (kJmSS) 52
The "coke bottle" grips fit my hands pretty well, and the length of the reach to the trigger for my index finger works better on the S&W than the Colt.
Posted by: Ed L ======= If you get a hankering, look for a 357 Shooting Master in a New Service. Colt subtly altered the trigger reach and grip for the Shooting Master in 357 and the general run of the mill 38 Special. I think they may have made a very few Shooting Masters in 38 Special too. (The New Service in 38 Special is more akin to the Smith 38/44 Outdoorsman in strength). Border Patrol used 38 Special New Service revolvers for years as did some other government agencies like the TVA. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:50 PM (E4rtv) 53
FYI, for October I plan on getting there on Thursday. Have the hotel booked for Thurs to Sun.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:41 PM (QrtBZ) Holiday Inn Express again? Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:51 PM (t2oSI) 54
49 A gun thread platypus??
PERRY the gun thread platypus!!! Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 07:47 PM (QMAsf) *kicks Doof* Posted by: Perry the Platapus at May 24, 2026 07:52 PM (xcxpd) 55
Is that why Lucas McCain often went into a barrel roll in a gunfight?
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:48 PM How many .44-40 shots do you count? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rl-FGETfS4 Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 07:52 PM (0sNs1) 56
*fixes nic*
Posted by: Perry the Platypus at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (xcxpd) 57
There's a 2011 called the platypus. It's made to order, and color your want.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (P4bJX) 58
50 "Only deficit that a lever action has is difficult to shoot and operate in prone position."
Is that why Lucas McCain often went into a barrel roll in a gunfight? Posted by: fd That and chewing up the scene. But yes, you do have to roll up and to the left (or right) a bit to operate the lever easily while prone. Trying to operate them sideways while prone is a pita and likely to cause a jam malfunction. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (E4rtv) 59
53 Holiday Inn Express again?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:51 PM Affirmative Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (g5tO/) 60
Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread Horde! No gun stuff to report. been roofing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (8zz6B) 61
Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread Horde! No gun stuff to report. been roofing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM I don't think Weasel is paying much attention to the Thread this evening, so you *may* escape an entry in your Permanent Record. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 07:56 PM (0sNs1) 62
So win/win thanks to Range person Amy who answered all my questions promptly on price and features and Blaster for invaluable technical assistance and letting me borrow SRA Blaster's gun.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) ====== Kudos. Glad you could make it work. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:56 PM (E4rtv) 63
No gun stuff to report. been roofing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (8zz6B) ------- No nail gun? Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 07:56 PM (vEOHn) 64
Sergeant: "Soldier! Why did you blow your cover and run out of those bushes?!"
Soldier: Sorry, sir. I stayed still when a dog peed on me. I stayed still when a snake crawled over my neck." Sergeant: "Then what happened?" Soldier: "Two squirrels ran up my pants, and one said, 'Let's eat one now and save the other for winter. That's when I lost it, sir!" Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 07:57 PM (qx7Zg) 65
Weasel, anything burning tonight?
Trying my first Karen Berger cigar, her Cameroon, so far so good. The bird wars are interesting this time of year. Coopers hawks, another bigger raptor pair, crows, mocking birds. Noisy at times. Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 07:58 PM (Pp3EP) 66
Affirmative
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (g5tO/) Got 'er done. Popular place, that one. Looks like it's almost sold out ... wonder why? Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:58 PM (t2oSI) Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 07:59 PM (vEOHn) 68
I haven't looked, but is this the same technology the Soviets used for the Alpha class SSN?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 07:40 PM (jehhT) The Alfas used a lead-bismuth reactor. This reactor was able to produce a lot of power in relatively small volume. The downside is that the high temperatures are quite corrosive and the reactor cannot go cold lest the metal literally freezes in the pipes. Adding chlorides (commonly found with seawater) risks greatly accelerating the rate of corrosion on the piping and mechanical systems. At least two loss of coolant accidents are known to have happened on Alfas, resulting in contamination of reactor compartment. Tom Clancy alludes to this problem with the Alfa class in the prelude to the sinking of an Alfa in his book, "The Hunt for Red October." Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 07:59 PM (BCwQW) 69
One could do far worse than having a lever action 357 Magnum carbine matched with a 357 Magnum revolver
Agree 100%. I had that combo for a long time for the reasons you mentioned. Eventually parted with the rifle but it is indeed a good pairing. Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 24, 2026 08:00 PM (ceJ0R) 70
No nail gun?
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 07:56 PM (vEOHn) Armstrong stapler for the tar paper. Roofing nails for the shingles, which is tomorrow's job. Any luck we will be done tomorrow by 10 AM. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 08:01 PM (8zz6B) 71
Hello, Weasel! USS Seawolf (SSN-575), a half sister to the more famous USS Nautilus (SSN-571), was originally built with a liquid sodium reactor. Commissioned in March 1957, she went through two years of trials before the liquid sodium reactor was judged unsuccessful. Seawolf went back to the yard for removal of the liquid sodium reactor. It was replaced with a pressurized water plant similar to that fitted to the Nautilus.
Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 *** I built the Aurora models of both! And the Skipjack too. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 08:01 PM (wzUl9) 72
Thanks Whig.
Now I have to figure out what sight to put on it. I tried watching some YouTube's and I like the Holosun on my Glock, but there may be less expensive options. Need to do more research. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 08:02 PM (kJmSS) 73
If you get a hankering, look for a 357 Shooting Master in a New Service. Colt subtly altered the trigger reach and grip for the Shooting Master in 357 and the general run of the mill 38 Special. I think they may have made a very few Shooting Masters in 38 Special too. (The New Service in 38 Special is more akin to the Smith 38/44 Outdoorsman in strength).
Border Patrol used 38 Special New Service revolvers for years as did some other government agencies like the TVA. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:50 PM (E4rtv) I think I've seen a .357 Shooting Master only once. It was darn near pristine and (at the time), out of my price range. Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:03 PM (BCwQW) 74
66 Got 'er done. Popular place, that one. Looks like it's almost sold out ... wonder why?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:58 PM We may never know......... ;-) Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 08:04 PM (g5tO/) 75
Looking forward to it!!
Was fooling around yesterday with the Kestral app on my phone setting up the rifle and bullet specs. Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:38 PM (QrtBZ) Do not forget your notepad and pencil, young Padawan! Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:04 PM (6YO2I) 76
Weasel, otimo! Isso e cigarro muito gostoso e bem forte.
That is, quite tasty and pretty strong. May write this one up if it continues as it is now. Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:05 PM (Pp3EP) 77
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:05 PM (Pp3EP)
------ Agreed. Great construction and very puffable! Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 08:07 PM (vEOHn) 78
Shooting full power .357 125 grain loads out of a 4 inch barrel makes a fellow understand why cops were so eager to adopt high capacity 9mm pistols when they became available. I find the muzzle blast to be downright irritating, and I've been pulling triggers for fun and profit for a long time.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 08:08 PM (aMrr2) 79
I think I've seen a .357 Shooting Master only once. It was darn near pristine and (at the time), out of my price range.
Posted by: Ed L a ====== They aren't common but sell for under what a registered N Frame Smith would. Shooting Masters never developed the mystique that the Registered Magnums did (probably due to FBI use as much as anything). I've developed some decent 357 loads using the 125 gr bullet with less blast and still clocking about 1350-1400 out of a 4 inch barrel. W 231- gets you to about 1300 fps. Titegroup gets you to that next level with a bit wider tolerance. The other trick is to go to a lighter 110 gr Hollow Point, lighter recoil and less blast with those as well. Since I wouldn't hunt with one, don't need the H 110 etc. sturm and blast to push a 158 gr bullet into a bear. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv) 80
Thinking to set up the lever/revolver combo in 2 calibers, 45 Colt and 357. Have a 45c lever and a few 357 revolvers. So need to add a45c revolver and 357 lever. Reload both calibers already.
In position to acquire an S&W 25-3 cheap, but it’s a commemorative one and shooting a collectible is another decision, though I already do that with other platforms. Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:11 PM (Pp3EP) 81
Hog hunting is in the ofting again. A group of about 50 piglets ran across the road night before last. They come my way I am ready for them
Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2026 08:11 PM (5P5DO) 82
Love the Fat Electrician! I heard him talk about the manhole cover on the Unsubscribe podcast, but I'm looking forward to the rest of the video.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:22 PM Good smoke. Can confirm. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 08:12 PM (Wnv9h) 83
I picked up a Taurus that has 2 cyliners just so I could see the difference in recoil for 9mm vs 357 in the same platform.
9mm recoils harder in a revolver, that slide and sping cuts the recoil a lot. 357 is still way more tho. That little experiment cost me $500. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 08:12 PM (P4bJX) 84
78 Shooting full power .357 125 grain loads out of a 4 inch barrel makes a fellow understand why cops were so eager to adopt high capacity 9mm pistols when they became available. I find the muzzle blast to be downright irritating, and I've been pulling triggers for fun and profit for a long time.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy Reloading the right powder and bullet combo makes a 357 Magnum more pleasant. If you have a K Frame or heavier in it, try switching to the Winchester Silvertip HP 140 GR in 357 Mag-less blast and less recoil/overpenetration than the 158 gr. hunting bullets. Firing 125 grs in the older K-Frame models flame cuts the top strap and tends to crack the barrel at the forcing cone where it is flattened to allow the cylinder to be closed. New models with sleeved barrels, not a problem. I prefer Rugers, both the Security series and the GP-100 in 357 Magnum though. You can actually fit a Security series into a Smith K Frame holster for a 357 magnum model of the same barrel length. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:13 PM (E4rtv) 85
75 Do not forget your notepad and pencil, young Padawan!
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:04 PM Yes Obi Wan, that is always in the range bag. Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 08:14 PM (g5tO/) 86
50 piglets?? Does the state do anything to keep the hog situation under control or are ya'll on your own? Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 08:14 PM (3ek7K) 87
They aren't common but sell for under what a registered N Frame Smith would. Shooting Masters never developed the mystique that the Registered Magnums did (probably due to FBI use as much as anything).
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv) FBI adoption definitely adds to the collector price for Registered Magnums. One I saw with paperwork showing it was purchased and subsequently used by an FBI agent until his retirement was asking for low five figures a few years back. Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:15 PM (BCwQW) 88
One could do far worse than having a lever action 357 Magnum carbine matched with a 357 Magnum revolver
I have an irrational desire for an 1873 Winchester and a Ruger Bisley Vaquero in .45LC both in color-case finish and matching engraving. Sadly, the Powerball is not cooperating with my desires lately. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 08:16 PM (vTZFs) 89
83 I picked up a Taurus that has 2 cyliners just so I could see the difference in recoil for 9mm vs 357 in the same platform.
9mm recoils harder in a revolver, that slide and sping cuts the recoil a lot. 357 is still way more tho. That little experiment cost me $500. Posted by: sniffybigtoe ======== I don't like 9mm in revolvers, especially if of the snubbie variety. You can get bullet jump from the cartridge to tie the cylinder as a taper crimp is just not as good at holding the bullet as a roll crimp. Mainly a problem in hotter loadings. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:16 PM (E4rtv) 90
Always thought having 2 different types of firearms with same caliber would be convenient
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 08:17 PM (Ia/+0) 91
I have an irrational desire for an 1873 Winchester and a Ruger Bisley Vaquero in .45LC both in color-case finish and matching engraving. Sadly, the Powerball is not cooperating with my desires lately.
Posted by: Oddbob ====== 45 Long Colt is a man (and critter) killer in a revolver. I had to look it up, but in a carbine, it hits about like a 44 Magnum carbine would but I think you would have to pair it with a Ruger as you say above to do that. I wouldn't shoot that in an Uberti SAA. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (E4rtv) 92
My wife would like a .22 revolver. She's shot my .38 S/W but hates the trigger. I do too. It's got a 90lb break. Or close to it. Yes, I know that can be fixed. She's still not enamored with .38.
What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (jehhT) 93
45 Colt lever is a beautiful Uberti repro 1866, so only “traditional” lower pressure ammo for her. Would be nice with a 357 lever to be able to use full-house 357 loads. Have plenty of H110 for M1 carbine reloading.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:23 PM (Pp3EP) 94
92 My wife would like a .22 revolver. She's shot my .38 S/W but hates the trigger. I do too. It's got a 90lb break. Or close to it. Yes, I know that can be fixed. She's still not enamored with .38.
What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (jehhT) No love for a .22 semi auto? Lots to be said for a Ruger SR 22 or a Glock 44. Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:23 PM (6YO2I) 95
Tying the Gun Thread and the American Sodium Reactor Experiment -- apparently the disposal method for the sodium was to transport it in barrels to a burn pit area, shoot the barrel with a rifle to introduce oxygen and induce a reaction, and then let the resulting toxic (but hopefully not radioactive) smoke waft over the surrounding area in what is now Simi Valley, CA.
No word on whether bags and/or bipods were used on the rifle to prevent wobbly shit. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:25 PM (t2oSI) 96
Oddbob that’s a good irrational desire. Classy guns.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:25 PM (Pp3EP) 97
Tying the Gun Thread ... Experiment together
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:26 PM (t2oSI) 98
> What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (jehhT) No love for a .22 semi auto? Lots to be said for a Ruger SR 22 or a Glock 44. Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:23 PM (6YO2I) ----------- I have a SR 22. She can't rack it. Arthritis. Her preference is a revolver. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:26 PM (jehhT) 99
90 Always thought having 2 different types of firearms with same caliber would be convenient
Posted by: Skip We have a fair number of people in outright hostile jurisdictions to firearms (even ammo purchases) and that carries over if you actually had to use one in those jurisdictions. Revolvers and Lever Actions often slip through the cracks and yet are as potent now as they were in cowboy times. 38-40, 32-20, 44-40 were all classic combos of carbines and revolvers back in those days. But the 357, 41 (hard to find that combo), and 44 Magnum have better ballistics than those firearms of yore and much easier to reload if you had to for ammo. I've done all reloading tasks using a Lee's hand press with dies for those and a scoop powder measure. Easy peasy. And 38 special and 357 Magnum use the same dies, you just have to adjust the settings a bit. Same for 44 Magnum and 44 Special and I would imagine the same for 41 Mag. The older cowboy cartridges were designed to get the most out of black powder and have very slight necks angles that are easy to bugger up when reloading. Modern cartridges that I named above are straight walled cases which makes it easy to reload. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:27 PM (E4rtv) 100
My wife would like a .22 revolver.
Can you at least upsell her to a .22 Mag? Ruger has an LCRx in .22M. No personal experience but hey, it's a Ruger. Kind of like McDonald's -- no surprises. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 08:27 PM (vTZFs) 101
100!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:27 PM (t2oSI) 102
Glock 44 is a pleasure to shoot and easy. It turned out to be an excellent gateway gun for me. Ammo is inexpensive.
I never really got into revolvers. I find the trigger pull to be difficult. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 08:28 PM (kJmSS) 103
101 100!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:27 PM (t2oSI) Missed it by that much. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:28 PM (t2oSI) 104
I have a SR 22. She can't rack it. Arthritis. Her preference is a revolver.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:26 PM (jehhT) Understood. I hear good things about the Heritage Rough Rider. But check out gunscorner.com for a good list. Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:31 PM (w30OO) 105
My wife would like a .22 revolver. She's shot my .38 S/W but hates the trigger. I do too. It's got a 90lb break. Or close to it. Yes, I know that can be fixed. She's still not enamored with .38.
What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (jehhT) 8", The Colt King Cobra 22 is available in 8", 6", 4", 3" and 2" barrel lengths, blued or stainless finishes, and holds 10 rounds. I have a 3" King Cobra in .357. Although the trigger isn't as refined as the Python's, the current King Cobra's trigger is (in my opinion) significantly better than most old school revolvers from the 20th century save the most refined (i.e. Pythons). Yes, it's significantly more than the competition, but that's what you pay for a better trigger and the Colt "prancing pony." Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:32 PM (BCwQW) 106
S&W M&P 22 pistol is nice. Eats most flavors of 22LR without problems. Larger frame than the SR22 if such is desired.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:32 PM (Pp3EP) 107
92 My wife would like a .22 revolver. She's shot my .38 S/W but hates the trigger. I do too. It's got a 90lb break. Or close to it. Yes, I know that can be fixed. She's still not enamored with .38.
What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too. Posted by: Martini Farmer I would get her a handgun that shoots 32 S&W Long. You can buy a 32 H&R magnum and it will shoot 32 S&W Long (or even Short) all day long. Minimal recoil and hits a bit harder than a 22 LR. The main reason is unless you get a bigger and bulkier revolver (K Frame or above) in 22 LR, the trigger pull is harder on those simply to set off the harder primed case rims of the 22 LR cartridge. Requires more umph. A 32 is center fired and easy peasy to shoot with better ballistics. Does fine in short barrels too. You can move up to the 32 H&R Magnum which in reality is about like a 38 Special with slightly less recoil. Charter Arms makes their Undercoverrette revolver which is reasonably priced. Their professional model, I think, holds seven cartridges for about 50-75 bucks more. 3 inch barrel which is excellent for self defense. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:34 PM (E4rtv) 108
This week's project: Do you have a 1911 laying about that you wish had bigger, more visible sights? Maybe it has a damaged barrel too? Cdnnsports.com has the answer:
https://shorturl.at/EimR5 A slide and barrel combo for $150. I have a overly modified, compensated "bowling pin" gun that I used to shoot IPSC with that I want to put back into service. This should do it. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 08:35 PM (aMrr2) 109
I never really got into revolvers. I find the trigger pull to be difficult.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) ======== Requires Weasel's trigger and sight fundamentals to a T to fire double action revolvers well. Snubbies even more so. But, if you can fire those successfully, learning to handle a double action trigger transfers over to semi autos and rifles. Ironically, the best revolver trigger pulls come from the really big framed revolvers. That is because it is all about leverage and bigger revolvers have longer levers--plus a big cylinder acts almost like a flywheel compared to smaller revolvers. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:38 PM (E4rtv) 110
But the 357, 41 (hard to find that combo), and 44 Magnum have better ballistics than those firearms of yore and much easier to reload if you had to for ammo.
I've done all reloading tasks using a Lee's hand press with dies for those and a scoop powder measure. Easy peasy. And 38 special and 357 Magnum use the same dies, you just have to adjust the settings a bit. Same for 44 Magnum and 44 Special and I would imagine the same for 41 Mag. A lever in .41 Mag can be a tad challenging, but the more difficult the quest, the sweeter win. There is a .41 Special, and Starline produces brass for it. I'm unaware of any commercial loadings, but I've never really looked for it. I have downloaded .41 Mag to .41 Special levels, but absent a decent lightweight revolver built for .41 Special, I've never loaded .41 Special ammo, but yes, you can use the same dies, adjusting the settings. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 08:40 PM (0sNs1) 111
I have a Henry and Taurus both in.44 Magnum. The Taurus was backup/bear medicine alongside bear spray up in some very back country parts of Montana on an elk hunt. The Henry has taken a _lot_ of deer over the last few years.
My Cowboy rig is paired Uberti .45s and a Uberti 1866 clone in the same caliber. Haven’t used the 1866 on a deer yet though. I’ve loaded the.45 down a little. Finally have the strength back in my left hand enough to control the rifle. It’s been a long 9 months… Posted by: Coelacanth at May 24, 2026 08:41 PM (50AHF) 112
Volquartsen makes a great .22lr semi that anyone can rack because of the unique bolt you pull back. The spawn has taught many an 'ette how to shoot with it and everyone loves it. She shoots the 4.5" Black mamba. For carry purposes the 3" is perfect.
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at May 24, 2026 08:41 PM (VCgbV) 113
In position to acquire an S&W 25-3 cheap, but it’s a commemorative one and shooting a collectible is another decision, though I already do that with other platforms.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:11 PM (Pp3EP) Buy it. Shoot it. Go hog wild and use it to shoot your Franklin Mint Star Trek Commemorative plates. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 08:42 PM (aMrr2) 114
A slide and barrel combo for $150. I have a overly modified, compensated "bowling pin" gun that I used to shoot IPSC with that I want to put back into service. This should do it.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy Probably take a touch of fitting. That combo has a match barrel which can be a bit tricky depending on tolerance stacking. Remington toward the end of its pistol making, was having some QC issues which this may or may not have. SDS is Turkish, I think. Sarco also sells 1911 parts including barrel, frames, and slides, I think they get a lot of theirs (or did) from the Philippines. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:43 PM (E4rtv) 115
The spawn has taught many an 'ette how to shoot with it
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at May 24, 2026 08:41 PM I remember the spawn chasing kittens. My, how time flies. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 08:43 PM (0sNs1) 116
Requires Weasel's trigger and sight fundamentals to a T to fire double action revolvers well. Snubbies even more so.
But, if you can fire those successfully, learning to handle a double action trigger transfers over to semi autos and rifles. Ironically, the best revolver trigger pulls come from the really big framed revolvers. That is because it is all about leverage and bigger revolvers have longer levers--plus a big cylinder acts almost like a flywheel compared to smaller revolvers. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:38 PM (E4rtv) +1 for this. I figured out how shoot a Python in double action using snap caps before I figured out how to shoot my Detective Special in double action. The really refined trigger on the Python definitely helps too. Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:43 PM (BCwQW) 117
RI Red to your text courtesy phone. RI Red to your text courtesy phone.
Posted by: TRex - PA announcer dino at May 24, 2026 08:45 PM (IQ6Gq) 118
In position to acquire an S&W 25-3 cheap, but it’s a commemorative one and shooting a collectible is another decision, though I already do that with other platforms.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:11 PM (Pp3EP) Most commemorative edition guns don't hold their purchase price in the collectors' market. Unless you have other reasons to not shoot that commemorative edition firearm, I'd buy it and shoot it guilt free if you need a shooter. Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:46 PM (BCwQW) 119
There is a .41 Special, and Starline produces brass for it. I'm unaware of any commercial loadings, but I've never really looked for it. I have downloaded .41 Mag to .41 Special levels, but absent a decent lightweight revolver built for .41 Special, I've never loaded .41 Special ammo, but yes, you can use the same dies, adjusting the settings.
Posted by: Duncanthrax ==== I think the ones that shoot it used to just trim down older 41 Magnum cases in length as the old brass could handle Special pressure for a long while but split at teh case mouth or worse at full mag pressure. I use a bench press for resizing something like a 44 Magnum. I've reloaded for it but only to shoot in FIL's Taurus Tracker in 44 Magnum. Haven't the desire for one myself. 357 is just fine for me. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:47 PM (E4rtv) 120
Coelacanth the Uberti 1866 weighs a ton. Would think unsuitable for hunting unless you’re getting in your curls and other resistance exercise at the same time.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:48 PM (Pp3EP) 121
+1 for this. I figured out how shoot a Python in double action using snap caps before I figured out how to shoot my Detective Special in double action. The really refined trigger on the Python definitely helps too.
Posted by: Ed L ======= Triggers on revolvers are one thing that dry firing (or shooting) them a lot improves. It is also why an old but cared for revolver with honest wear can have a slick trigger due to someone shooting it a lot. Best sort of wearing in to get exact fitting of parts to each other. It can improve other triggers as well but on old rifles or shotguns, it is best not to do too much of it. I used to do actual trigger work as I have the stones etc. and had to fix or fit a fair number of old military triggers and after that I did some revolver and semi auto triggers. Something you do by feel and practice with jigs and never alter the actual trigger geometry nor go as far as to stone through case hardening. I don't mess with self defense arm triggers due to risk factors in court. Those are bone stock original. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:53 PM (E4rtv) 122
Idaho and Ed, may well do that. Would provide the revolver part of my 45C combo. And single-action revolvers are exempt from CA’s absurd handgun roster, so no issues with “importing” it. Well, I don’t think so anyway. Actually going to consult a lawyer for the first time in my life, on any matter, about all this.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:53 PM (Pp3EP) 123
To finish, arthritis and a loss of hand strength/coordination has pretty much ended messing with mechanical issues by filing/stoning/etc. About the same on woodworking nowadays too.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv) 124
I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 08:54 PM (P4bJX) 125
whig my Model 66 is an example of a “seasoned” trigger improved by use over the years.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:56 PM (Pp3EP) 126
Or make a revolver with a fire control unit, just to mess with the ATF.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 08:56 PM (P4bJX) 127
124 I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe ====== There are several models of semi auto revolvers. Going way back to a Webley-Fosbery from 1901. I think someone else has repeated that trick, perhaps a Euro manufacturer recently. The problem with a striker is simply where to put the damn thing on a revolver to get the necessary striking power and then providing positive blocking of the striker. T here is a reason that the old hammer with a trigger pin or even hitting a transfer bar works. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:58 PM (E4rtv) 128
125 whig my Model 66 is an example of a “seasoned” trigger improved by use over the years.
Posted by: rhomboid ====== Firearms are one of the few things that I actually prefer to buy used. Older hand tools before Chinesium became common are another. Triggers are part of wearing in surfaces but on semi autos, the slides on the older metal framed and metal slides, etc. also get smoother with use. You can use tools and abrasives to speed it up but simply using them works better with less risk for most people. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:01 PM (E4rtv) 129
I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.
Weirdness for the sake of weirdness can be fun but usually it's just... weird. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 09:02 PM (vTZFs) 130
I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe I bet if a fellow did a patent search he would find there are several already on file, and half of them are by J.M. Browning. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 09:06 PM (aMrr2) 131
129 I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.
Weirdness for the sake of weirdness can be fun but usually it's just... weird. Posted by: Oddbob I would imagine that someone has already patented such a specimen if you cared to dig through them. You could also shoot an email to Ian at Forgotten Weapons and he might actually know of a prototype or some such that someone made. Back when mechanical and mfg knowledge was more widespread in the US, we had all sorts of inventions with a lot dealing with firearms. All of that culture fell to the current bean counter mentality of our politicians and corporate managers at the expense of US jobs, industrial knowhow, and key crafts like making the tooling for industry. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:06 PM (E4rtv) 132
May I introduce to you Operation Plumbob
https://tinyurl.com/54t8w3t7 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:16 PM (QrtBZ) The best line from the video: "doing Mythbusters shit with DoD money" Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:11 PM (t2oSI) 133
36 The American Sodium Reactor Experiment did not, alas, have a happy ending: https://tinyurl.com/5fkarwsd Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) -------- As a kid, I lived in the San Fernando Valley fora few years (mid-60s). Part of that R&D park was Rocketdyne. A neighbor worked there. We'd hear rocket motors being tested sometimes. Once the noise was accompanied by a visible tall plume of smoke in the distance. Went high enough to get zig-zagged from, I suppose, different winds at different altitudes. I had no idea about the nuclear stuff. Or the way they handled toxic waste over there. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:13 PM (azNOR) 134
I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.
Weirdness for the sake of weirdness can be fun but usually it's just... weird. Posted by: Oddbob I would imagine that someone has already patented such a specimen if you cared to dig through them. You could also shoot an email to Ian at Forgotten Weapons and he might actually know of a prototype or some such that someone made. Back when mechanical and mfg knowledge was more widespread in the US, we had all sorts of inventions with a lot dealing with firearms. All of that culture fell to the current bean counter mentality of our politicians and corporate managers at the expense of US jobs, industrial knowhow, and key crafts like making the tooling for industry. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:06 PM (E4rtv) And if it can't make $$ in at least the commercial market (or better yet, big DOW contracts), good luck trying to find anyone willing to spend the $ required to tool up and make the first production run. Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:13 PM (BCwQW) 135
Have a good rest of the night all.
Hope to have a range report next Sunday on my rental experience and whether new pistol is in the works. pretty exciting. Been a while since I did this. Have a great week Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 09:16 PM (kJmSS) 136
I had no idea about the nuclear stuff. Or the way they handled toxic waste over there.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:13 PM (azNOR) SOP from the NRC for most low level radioactive wastes was to bury it on your property in the 1950's through the late 1960s. Much of this had to get dug up in the 1970s and sent to proper nuclear waste disposal sites. Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:16 PM (BCwQW) 137
Welp, 9:17pm thank you time.
Thank you!! Appreciate your being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday! I should be around in the comments a little more! Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 09:17 PM (nyLca) 138
And if it can't make $$ in at least the commercial market (or better yet, big DOW contracts), good luck trying to find anyone willing to spend the $ required to tool up and make the first production run.
Posted by: Ed L It is very possible, in the near future, that we will have 3d metal printing of such parts. Started in aerospace but now trickling down to almost backyard making (think I saw 60k for used past generation metal 3d printers now) Soon, if someone can imagine it with AI help, then it can be prototype and easily duplicated. Getting that way on a lot of plastic items, reloading, as an example. All sorts of 3d printed add ons developed by someone to make the job easier. Same for jig making. That is why we need to bring back manufacturing to the US regardless of what the big investors in globalism and the corporate managers want. We need to release the ingenuity of the American worker again. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv) 139
Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:18 PM (BCwQW) 140
Also time for me to retire.
Thx, Weasel, thx all. Good times upcoming! Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 09:19 PM (6YO2I) 141
As a kid, I lived in the San Fernando Valley fora few years (mid-60s). Part of that R&D park was Rocketdyne. A neighbor worked there. We'd hear rocket motors being tested sometimes. Once the noise was accompanied by a visible tall plume of smoke in the distance. Went high enough to get zig-zagged from, I suppose, different winds at different altitudes. I had no idea about the nuclear stuff. Or the way they handled toxic waste over there.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:13 PM (azNOR) Although it's horrifying to think about now, that must have been fascinating to see as a kid. Of course, it was all denied by the USG as "swamp gas", I'm sure. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:20 PM (t2oSI) 142
Weasel, THANK YOU.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2026 09:22 PM (5P5DO) 143
Thanks weasel and others.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:22 PM (E4rtv) 144
That is why we need to bring back manufacturing to the US regardless of what the big investors in globalism and the corporate managers want. We need to release the ingenuity of the American worker again.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv) IMHO, we don't have a choice. Demographics in China, Korea, Japan, and Europe mean products manufactured in these places (especially China and Europe) may not be able to be made there in ten to twenty years from now. Or sooner, if demographics in these places fall off a cliff faster than predicted. Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:23 PM (BCwQW) 145
Although it's horrifying to think about now, that must have been fascinating to see as a kid. Of course, it was all denied by the USG as "swamp gas", I'm sure.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:20 PM (t2oSI) Schnorflepuppy, a good number of the bigger places with the bigger problems are in the Superfund database. The site investigation reports and any subsequent cleanup work are FOIA accessible if you really want to know. Not everything has been digitized, I think. Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:26 PM (BCwQW) 146
It is very possible, in the near future, that we will have 3d metal printing of such parts. Started in aerospace but now trickling down to almost backyard making (think I saw 60k for used past generation metal 3d printers now)
Soon, if someone can imagine it with AI help, then it can be prototype and easily duplicated. Getting that way on a lot of plastic items, reloading, as an example. All sorts of 3d printed add ons developed by someone to make the job easier. Same for jig making. That is why we need to bring back manufacturing to the US regardless of what the big investors in globalism and the corporate managers want. We need to release the ingenuity of the American worker again. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv) whig, I was just thinking along the same lines -- metal fused deposition modeling (the underlying process behind 3-D printing) already exists, which would enable one-off manufacturing without the costs of tooling up a manufacturing line. Plus, the very idea that metal 3-D printing will cause so many wet / crapped pants among a certain crowd in the government space makes the dark parts of my soul so very happy. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:27 PM (t2oSI) 147
Schnorflepuppy, a good number of the bigger places with the bigger problems are in the Superfund database. The site investigation reports and any subsequent cleanup work are FOIA accessible if you really want to know. Not everything has been digitized, I think.
Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:26 PM (BCwQW) Yep, my (late) wife was fascinated by EPA brownfields for some reason, and she used to share the egregious ones with me. I've driven past the Piketon gaseous diffusion facility in Ohio, where we used to do the same uranium enrichment that we're currently endeavoring to prevent in Iran, and seen the amount of fences and gates erected around the property -- I can only imagine the levels of contamination therein. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:31 PM (t2oSI) 148
IMHO, we don't have a choice. Demographics in China, Korea, Japan, and Europe mean products manufactured in these places (especially China and Europe) may not be able to be made there in ten to twenty years from now. Or sooner, if demographics in these places fall off a cliff faster than predicted.
Posted by: Ed L ====== We have to as a matter of national security and economics. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:33 PM (E4rtv) 149
Woah. Isn't salt supposed to be bad for you? And you want to make it radioactive?
Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2026 09:34 PM (kU0PQ) 150
I've driven past the Piketon gaseous diffusion facility in Ohio, where we used to do the same uranium enrichment that we're currently endeavoring to prevent in Iran, and seen the amount of fences and gates erected around the property -- I can only imagine the levels of contamination therein.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:31 PM (t2oSI) Might not be as much as you would expect. After all, uranium was scarce and expensive, and they would want to be losing as little as humanly possible. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:34 PM (8zz6B) 151
Plus, the very idea that metal 3-D printing will cause so many wet / crapped pants among a certain crowd in the government space makes the dark parts of my soul so very happy.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy ====== And some state governments (west coasters) are already thinking about going overboard with regulations because of it. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:35 PM (E4rtv) 152
guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 09:35 PM (xcxpd) Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 09:37 PM (19zcA) 154
So did more shooting with my new G19 stipple job. This time I did an iron sight PSA Dagger slide.
It was not a good fit. The sights are way low and I am also shooting left. So...there were adjustments needed. After looking at my groups (which were small groups but not on target) I switched to my G17. We'll try a different slide next week, this time with a red dot. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 09:37 PM (xcxpd) 155
whig, I was just thinking along the same lines -- metal fused deposition modeling (the underlying process behind 3-D printing) already exists, which would enable one-off manufacturing without the costs of tooling up a manufacturing line.
Plus, the very idea that metal 3-D printing will cause so many wet / crapped pants among a certain crowd in the government space makes the dark parts of my soul so very happy. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy I think it will also bring back small scale local machine shops to duplicate what couldn't be done previously. Being used pretty heavily now in the Suppressor business as well. Some gas baffles could not be manufactured at a good price point before despite being technically superior. Saw something about the Chrysler building and they are using a 3 D Lidar scan of each floor and room which then feeds into a massive and complete 3d computer model of ventilation, plumbing, electrical centered on a repeatable GPS anchored measurement. Helluva 3D guide for old buildings that have untold layers of being fixed, redesigned, etc without being in the formal plans. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv) 156
Firearms are one of the few things that I actually prefer to buy used. Older hand tools before Chinesium became common are another.
Triggers are part of wearing in surfaces but on semi autos, the slides on the older metal framed and metal slides, etc. also get smoother with use. You can use tools and abrasives to speed it up but simply using them works better with less risk for most people. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:01 PM (E4rtv) #Wisdom Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 09:40 PM (xcxpd) 157
Can 3D metal printing make parts as strong as heat-treated steel? I seem to remember a lot of concern about MIM (?) components in revolvers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:42 PM (8zz6B) 158
I think it will also bring back small scale local machine shops to duplicate what couldn't be done previously. Being used pretty heavily now in the Suppressor business as well. Some gas baffles could not be manufactured at a good price point before despite being technically superior.
Saw something about the Chrysler building and they are using a 3 D Lidar scan of each floor and room which then feeds into a massive and complete 3d computer model of ventilation, plumbing, electrical centered on a repeatable GPS anchored measurement. Helluva 3D guide for old buildings that have untold layers of being fixed, redesigned, etc without being in the formal plans. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv) I started crawling down the metal 3-D printing rabbit hole, and found something called the Scrap 1 which is supposed to ship next summer (yeah, right, heard that before) at a <$10K price point. Supposed to print stainless steel, copper, and nickel. Don't know if that addresses AOP's question about heat-treated steel, but I can't imagine that's too far off. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:46 PM (t2oSI) 159
Metatron (a Sicilian) has thoughts about the DEI Odyssey
youtu.be/DzCd9entvrw Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 09:47 PM (gKWVE) 160
157 Can 3D metal printing make parts as strong as heat-treated steel? I seem to remember a lot of concern about MIM (?) components in revolvers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:42 PM (8zz6B) Howdy, sir. My sympathies on the roofing job. On another tangent, are you available to travel to Ohio for a similar job? Asking for a friend ... Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:47 PM (t2oSI) 161
Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 09:48 PM (Wnv9h) 162
157 Can 3D metal printing make parts as strong as heat-treated steel? I seem to remember a lot of concern about MIM (?) components in revolvers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Smith and Wesson was an early adopter. They had problems in the late 90's but figured out the process after an uneven start. Same as Bill Ruger figured out using modern casting techniques and materials to build his brand's rep as unbreakable. Everyone in gun manufacturing up to Bill Ruger thought cast was inferior to forged. Bill proved them wrong. We are now using these 3d printing techniques to make turbines for jet engines, rocket parts, etc. and the interior baffles of firearm suppressors. So I do think additive versus machining manufacturing is here to stay. And modern computers make it possible along with lasers, measuring by scans, etc. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:48 PM (E4rtv) 163
I started crawling down the metal 3-D printing rabbit hole, and found something called the Scrap 1 which is supposed to ship next summer (yeah, right, heard that before) at a
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:46 PM (t2oSI) I wonder if you could do 3D electroplating in a tank of electrolyte, with the anode being a hair-fine wire of the metal to be plated being extruded through a nozzle that moves about controled by the program? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:50 PM (8zz6B) 164
I started crawling down the metal 3-D printing rabbit hole, and found something called the Scrap 1 which is supposed to ship next summer (yeah, right, heard that before) at a
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) That is the interesting thing about technology, we see bits and pieces and then suddenly it becomes the norm. GPS was that way. Cellphones another. Space X is doing that for space travel. Takes a lot of behind the scenes development then Whoosh. And that is how a modern US can avoid the decline and fall of empires. Widely disseminated tooling, knowledge, and abilities of workers. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:51 PM (E4rtv) 165
On another tangent, are you available to travel to Ohio for a similar job? Asking for a friend ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:47 PM (t2oSI) Sorry. Just had my pants pressed, and I'm overdue for a root canal in Alberta. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:52 PM (8zz6B) 166
150 I've driven past the Piketon gaseous diffusion facility in Ohio, where we used to do the same uranium enrichment that we're currently endeavoring to prevent in Iran, and seen the amount of fences and gates erected around the property -- I can only imagine the levels of contamination therein. Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:31 PM ------- Uranium is not highly radioactive, and radioactivity is not created by enrichment. Any radioactive contamination is probably fairly low level. There may have been toxic chemicals used, and uranium itself is a toxic heavy metal kind of like lead, but it's not like radioactivity from nuclear reactors. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:52 PM (iTNuP) 167
Sorry. Just had my pants pressed, and I'm overdue for a root canal in Alberta.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:52 PM (8zz6B) Can't blame a guy for trying, can you? Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:53 PM (t2oSI) 168
I have a friend who maybe 15 years ago now had an idea of using additive manufacturing for repairing obsolete aircraft parts. He and I went to the big CAF air show in Midland to bounce the idea off people actually involved in the industry. Literally no one was even the least bit interested. They would rather continue to pay increasing costs for decreasing supplies of parts than even consider a new process.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 09:54 PM (vTZFs) 169
167 Sorry. Just had my pants pressed, and I'm overdue for a root canal in Alberta.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:52 PM (8zz6B) Can't blame a guy for trying, can you? Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:53 PM (t2oSI) Uh, I mean, a friend ... 😂 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:54 PM (t2oSI) 170
I wonder if you could do 3D electroplating in a tank of electrolyte, with the anode being a hair-fine wire of the metal to be plated being extruded through a nozzle that moves about controled by the program?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Dunno anyone doing that. I do think Electron Beam Physical Vapor Deposition (EB-PVD deposits on parts like slides are somewhat similar to what you describe. Gives almost a diamond like hardness and smoothness to parts. FWIW, I remembered it as EVP and did a quick check finding my memory faulty. PVD is the term and EB is the specific technique used on gun parts by some companies now. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:54 PM (E4rtv) 171
I have a friend who maybe 15 years ago now had an idea of using additive manufacturing for repairing obsolete aircraft parts. He and I went to the big CAF air show in Midland to bounce the idea off people actually involved in the industry. Literally no one was even the least bit interested. They would rather continue to pay increasing costs for decreasing supplies of parts than even consider a new process.
Posted by: Oddbob Could be a regulatory issue. FAA gets pretty crabby about parts and Boeing using Chinesium bolts caused a massive standdown to remove those. I think they found out about it when investigating the door blew out in flight. Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:57 PM (E4rtv) 172
Thank you Weasel.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 09:57 PM (oyck1) 173
Could be a regulatory issue.
That is absolutely true and was one objection we heard. But either someone is going to have to take on the process or the planes will eventually stop flying. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 09:59 PM (vTZFs) Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 10:01 PM (t2oSI) 175
Thanks for the info on a .22 (or whatever) for my wife. I'll be reviewing some of the suggestions but we're really set on .22. I've got a significant investment in that caliber and I'm not really interested in others.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 10:02 PM (jehhT) 176
Civil Defense After The Bomb! - Thirty seconds into the music of the opening, MiladyJo across the room asks, "Is this a movie from the gun thread?" Heh. Sort-of.
Reminds me of back in the early '70s, when I was a go-fer/mailroom guy for a season at KATV Little Rock, a position from which I could wander around and observe their whole operation, in the sound room of the main production studio, there was a sizable collection of LPs of stock (royalty-free) music of various genre. Must have been there since the '50s, or maybe the '40s. Posted by: mindful webworker - music to sell cars by at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (0poB+) 177
There are a number of 3d printed prototypes for pistols and carbines out there, most of them are done with parts kits or home made barrels and PLA or related filament.
The big one was at one time FGC-9 which always looked fun. The files are out there in distribution, they are also videos on Odysee , as well as reviews, and discussion on manufacturing and improvements. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:56 PM (rbvCR) Food Thread: You Can't Drink All Day If You Don't Start In The Morning!![]() I wrote on Thursday about the the EU regulatory state that was designed to replace innovation and competition with regulation, and here it is in all its glory! EU to ban Brazilian meat imports from September An EU committee made up of experts from member states voted on Tuesday to ban imports of Brazilian meat starting 3 September due to the use of antimicrobials to stimulate animal growth. Oh look! Experts! I'll bet they went to all the best schools! I don't much care whether Brazil abuses the use of antibiotics to promote cattle growth. Is it a bad idea? Probably. But anything the EU does is by definition anti-competitive, so I am on Brazil's side. Meat is very expensive in the EU. In my limited experience, it is at least double or triple what we pay here. But those experts don't want the peasants to be able to eat meat, so they limit imports and protect their own inefficient and expensive industry. That is functionally identical to the way the people were treated by the Church and by royalty...in the Middle Ages! ![]() Vegetables? Yuck! Except when cooked correctly, with flavor rather than some nebulous concept of healthful eating in mind. I bought a head of broccoli, peeled the stem as much as I could, then sliced it into 1" steaks....whatever the hell a broccoli steak is. Then I microwaved them with a bit of water, just to soften them a bit. three minutes, covered. The next step is going to disturb you healthful eating types, so...piss off. I brushed them with a liberal amount of melted butter, salted them, and grilled them on high heat until they got a bit toasty and charred. They were great! Easy, delicious, and I didn't feel like I was being punished. ![]() It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. And my theory was wrong. So I finally gave up on it and started roasting asparagus at 350 degrees, bathed in butter and with a pinch of salt, and cooked just until tender. And what do you know! They taste great that way! It sounds better in French: Champignons à la Savoyarde, but Creamy Mushrooms on Toast tastes just as good in English. He uses Morels, which are grand! And tough to find. And expensive. But any mushroom will do. Just don't use sour cream...heavy cream makes a better dish! ![]() The garlic is doing well! I know all of you are worried, but it is tall and green and healthy! I even fertilized them! And if they survive the deer and squirrel apocalypse, and actually grow into something edible, I will be in garlic heaven! In case it doesn't, send all of your excellent home-grown garlic to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle. The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it! Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Food fight
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:02 PM (Ia/+0) 2
Cauliflower pusher
Posted by: bluebell at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (HqH5I) 3
Speaking of Bourbon, it might be Scotch time soon
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (Ia/+0) 4
Cheesesteak a bit later
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:05 PM (Ia/+0) 5
"It is possible, even in these post-Biden-inflation times, to feed a bunch of people tasty, wholesome food without breaking the bank. That pork roast was about 13 pounds, and while not on sale, it was reasonably priced for our area. All the other stuff was not particularly pricey, and If I don't count the booze (damn, they drank a lot!), it was probably less per person than my everyday meals!"
It is possible...but not with anything beef. Pork is the cheapest meat to use if you want to have meat as the star. Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:06 PM (tOcjL) 6
and the champagne is good!
Did you inquire if it was hand riddled? The best champagne is hand riddled. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 04:12 PM (0sNs1) 7
Speaking of Bourbon, it might be Scotch time soon
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM Apparently you are a man who is willing to forego the 'e' in whiskey. Sad! Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 04:13 PM (0sNs1) 8
This week, one of our dinners was the $28 challenge.
I took an old 2.8 pound beef chunk out of my freezer (I'd tell you what type, but the tag had worn off b/c of the 50% off sticker - it was $4.99/lb out the door - it had the thinnest beef cap and no real fat through the meat, if that helps someone identify). I sliced it against the grain into thin, fajita like pieces (that took me 30 minutes of effort) and eventually pan-seared them rapidly in a little oil with salt, pepper, and garlic powder. They became 10 dinner sandwich wraps, plus 3 leftover for the next day. $2 Aldi tortillas, $2 whole head green lettuce, $2.50 container Aldi's chimchurri, 50 cents worth of Amazon plum tomatoes, and $5 deli pickled onion container (the splurge). $12 for the toppings, about $14 for the beef...14 sandwiches (if you include the Aldi's white bread kids used after tortillas were gone). $26 all in, but even if beef was full price, it would be $40 for 14...not bad. PS - This fed 8 people worth...5 one day and 3 the next. Yes, teen boys eat 2 wraps. Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:13 PM (tOcjL) 9
And I can't type - 13, not 14, b/c I can add, but not hit the right button!
Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:14 PM (tOcjL) 10
Pork is the cheapest meat to use if you want to have meat as the star.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:06 PM No one here is into beating the meat. Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 04:14 PM (0sNs1) 11
Why is it that we suspend all of our eating and drinking rules when in airports?
No idea. I haven't flown since 2010. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (2PamV) 12
At this moment I'm chowing down on a new way of cooking pinto beans (I'm sure someone else has done this before, but it's new to me).
I put a pot of beans to soak last night, as usual, but when I got up to cook them this morning I recalled that I had a leftover seasoned pork chop in the fridge. Rather than going with the standard ham or bacon, I chopped up the chop (which sounds redundant) and tossed that in, bone and all. When they were done I added some more salt and pepper to taste. 10/10. Will do this again. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (IG3/x) 13
And my theory was wrong. So I finally gave up on it and started roasting asparagus at 350 degrees, bathed in butter and with a pinch of salt, and cooked just until tender. Posted by: CBD Why not sous vide them until tender? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 04:16 PM (oyck1) 14
They need meat runners to smuggle beef into Europe.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 04:17 PM (Cqx++) 15
Pork is the cheapest meat to use if you want to have meat as the star.
Posted by: Nova Local Have a 1/3 of a boneless loin that I have to figure out what to do with for tomorrow's dinner. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:17 PM (2PamV) 16
Roasting asparagus in pecan oil is my go to.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2026 04:18 PM (5P5DO) 17
15 Pork is the cheapest meat to use if you want to have meat as the star.
Posted by: Nova Local Have a 1/3 of a boneless loin that I have to figure out what to do with for tomorrow's dinner. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:17 PM (2PamV) I'm sick, so pork and apples in some way seems like comfort food that's doable to me...weather also sucks, so a dish for cold, wet weather seems nice... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:19 PM (tOcjL) 18
The last time I flew out of DFW, the bar was empty and had one of those red velvet ropes across the doorway. It was about 0600 when we got there. Granted that was about ten years ago though.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:19 PM (0N4FZ) 19
Watching Great Escape now
Cheers Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:19 PM (Ia/+0) 20
10/10. Will do this again.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (IG3/x) Sounds good to me! Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 04:20 PM (h7ZuX) Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 04:20 PM (YZcg9) 22
Pork and (especially) chicken tend to have way faster price fluctuations (in both directions) than beef.
Chickens are ready in 2-6 months (depending on breed and purpose). Pork is 5-7 months. Beef is more like two years. If the farmers have also sold off a lot of breeding stock, you could be looking at 3 years before a beef shortage starts to be alleviated. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (IG3/x) 23
I'm sick, so pork and apples in some way seems like comfort food that's doable to me...weather also sucks, so a dish for cold, wet weather seems nice...
Posted by: Nova Local I'm thinking loin chops, apple sauce & maybe mashed potatoes. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (2PamV) 24
The best champagne is hand riddled.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 04:12 PM (0sNs1) Was a time when one could get hand riddled in Times Square for about $15. Probably $20 now to keep up with surrounding towns... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (nbLIj) 25
Beef is more like two years.
If the farmers have also sold off a lot of breeding stock, you could be looking at 3 years before a beef shortage starts to be alleviated. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia $84 & change for a brisket at the local high dollar grocery store. NFW. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (2PamV) 26
Have a 1/3 of a boneless loin that I have to figure out what to do with for tomorrow's dinner.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:17 PM (2PamV) === One of my relations received a quantity of peaches and asked for suggestions. Mine was a pork loin with a peach chutney. Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (rj6Yv) 27
I have a nice Customer Service story to share:
A couple weeks ago I purchased some Turkey Hill Black Cherry Ice Cream (actually frozen dairy dessert using whole milk and not cream). Unfortunately, they likely had a mixing issue when it was manufactured, and I ended up with 1.44 quarts of vanilla with, maybe, 10 total pieces of black cherry. I decided to inform them...with no expectations. So, I took about two minutes and filled out a feedback entry online. A week later I got a phone call from their CS department. A very nice woman proceeded to apologize, thank me for the feedback, and asked me where I usually purchased their product. With a hint of mirth she told me to watch my mail. Thursday I received 5 coupons for five 1.44 quart containers of Turkey Hill ice cream of my choice from the local gocery story I frequent. THAT is customer service. Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (dIske) 28
Since I'm still sick (sense of smell - about gone), I'm not relying on my taste buds or energy for cooking, so it's trying Aldi's honey tempura chicken with garlic air fried green beans (could roast, but I'm air-frying the chicken, and only have one oven), blueberries/raspberries/red grapes and Italian bread to sop it up.
I won't give my opinion b/c yes, this was picked as more comfort food...seems I can taste sweet the best right now, so might as well try something that relies on it. But I also haven't had much appetite the last few days, and I will eat this...so thanks Aldi's for having the new product... This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (tOcjL) 29
I really don't like champagne, love red wines
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:24 PM (Ia/+0) 30
23 I'm sick, so pork and apples in some way seems like comfort food that's doable to me...weather also sucks, so a dish for cold, wet weather seems nice...
Posted by: Nova Local I'm thinking loin chops, apple sauce & maybe mashed potatoes. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (2PamV) Sounds very good! Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:24 PM (tOcjL) 31
I'm starting to do a lot of caregiving for an elderly relative. Rule 1: We're not buying any more food! We're eating down the inventory. This pantry is ridiculous. Plus three fridges in the house! Made a ton of meat sauce yesterday. Today, probably some kind of banana cake. I only like to make one Thing a day. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (n7rxJ) 32
One of my relations received a quantity of peaches and asked for suggestions. Mine was a pork loin with a peach chutney.
Posted by: mrp Doesn't sound bad at all. I've made pork loin with cherry jelly & one with raspberry jam. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (2PamV) 33
We found AOP and his Canuk friend were fixing AOP's roof yesterday, I mixed up some BBQ sauce the Better half cooked wings. Wings and beer good, better with friends!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (oyck1) 34
g'afternoon, 'rons my latest culinary success was smoking a rack of pork ribs in the Weber kettle grill nothing fancy, it was more of a "proof of concept" exercise: two pack of ribs from Sam's; salt, pepper, garlic & onion powders on the meat did the "snake" method in the Weber and it worked great three and a half hours in the box, sauced and wrapped in foil, 90 minutes wrapped, then finished for 30 minutes unwrapped probably should have left it in to finish another twenty minutes or so, but we were STARVING need to work on temperature control a bit, but was very pleased overall tomorrow, my son is going to smoke the other rack...the pressure is on Posted by: AltonJackson at May 24, 2026 04:26 PM (AMvSw) 35
DJT is increasing beef imports from south of the border and he's relaxing restrictions on wolf "management" stateside. Someone mentioned last week that beef cows were at a premium. I'm thinking beef prices will be coming down hard sooner than people think.
Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:26 PM (rj6Yv) 36
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I'm starting to do a lot of caregiving for an elderly relative. Rule 1: We're not buying any more food! We're eating down the inventory. This pantry is ridiculous. Plus three fridges in the house! Made a ton of meat sauce yesterday. Today, probably some kind of banana cake. I only like to make one Thing a day. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (n7rxJ) You may need to toss a lot, depending when you get to the back of shelves (speaking from experience)... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (tOcjL) 37
My guess knowing where you bought it( obviously the retail seller has no issue in this( might track down its background of when, where it was made.
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (Ia/+0) 38
This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...
Posted by: Nova Local Not good. Not good at all. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (2PamV) 39
I have a patch of garden that does everything poorly, so I gave up and planted potatoes, which did poorly. So I planted garlic, which did poorly, and then I planted the "seeds" from the tops, and it did poorly, so I replanted all the garlic year old garlic and what I felt I could spare from the spindly harvest last year, and covered it with chips and leaves, and this year what survived is doing much better.
Next year I am going to go all in on planting horseradish instead. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (rbvCR) 40
Oh, did some filets on the grill today,..AWESOME!
But to the point of the alcohol at the top of the post: 1) LOVE a Bloody Mary to kick off a travel day. 2) Military Sunday Brunch used to feature Bloody Mary's and Mimosas (so there's your Champagne). -SLV Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at May 24, 2026 04:28 PM (7kJyR) 41
"Have a 1/3 of a boneless loin that I have to figure out what to do with for tomorrow's dinner."
Chile verde? Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at May 24, 2026 04:28 PM (FEVMW) 42
If the farmers have also sold off a lot of breeding stock, you could be looking at 3 years before a beef shortage starts to be alleviated.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM Something odd is going on with beef. Walmart just increased the price on their 5 pound 80/20 ground chuck roll from $27 to almost $33 in the last two days. That is the third price increase in less than two months. It is $7.73 a pound if you buy it in the one pound packages. That is insane. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (0N4FZ) 43
> EU to ban Brazilian meat imports from September
--------- Hmmm. I've been to some pretty good Brazilian steakhouses in my day. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (jehhT) 44
I've told this story before but when I was a kid and worked in the borscht belt I would have breakfast in the staff room and the night auditor would come in and order prune juice. Then the busboy would come by and pour in a shot of vodka from a flask. He called it "Morning Thunder."
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 04:30 PM (RIvkX) 45
I have chicken thighs in the fridge and about a half-cup of basil pesto (using unsalted pistachios). Thinking about the combo at the moment.
Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:31 PM (rj6Yv) 46
I learned how to make tender roasted asparagus in h.s. My g.f. loved it.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 04:31 PM (RIvkX) 47
Okay, I wasn't gonna review the Aldi's honey tempura chicken...but...there's way too much dang sauce. I'm looking at the chicken going into the oven and the sauce pouch, and it needs half, tops. Good thing I have 2 bags to make, b/c one sauce packet is going in my fridge as a future chicken stir fry sauce...
I have this trouble with Trader Joe's Orange chicken bags, too...heck, I have this problem if I buy pretty much any convenience protein item with a sauce. I guess it's a way to save costs and add weight. Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:33 PM (tOcjL) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 04:33 PM (3ek7K) 49
Something odd is going on with beef. Walmart just increased the price on their 5 pound 80/20 ground chuck roll from $27 to almost $33 in the last two days. That is the third price increase in less than two months. It is $7.73 a pound if you buy it in the one pound packages. That is insane.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (0N4FZ) ===== Breeding stock build up instead slaughter? Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:34 PM (rj6Yv) 50
Hmmm. I've been to some pretty good Brazilian steakhouses in my day.
Posted by: Martini Farmer Someone might want to contact Brazil and let them know US shelves are open for EU blocked beef. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 04:34 PM (oyck1) 51
We went out to dinner last night, I had grouper topped with crab over risotto. It was amazing as it always is at the little local place we went. J ate all of his, and the 1/2 I didn’t eat. We also had crab claws. Tonight I am not feeling like making something huge, will probably just do sloppy joes and a few veggies as sides.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 04:34 PM (Wmg4n) 52
Something odd is going on with beef. Walmart just increased the price on their 5 pound 80/20 ground chuck roll from $27 to almost $33 in the last two days. That is the third price increase in less than two months. It is $7.73 a pound if you buy it in the one pound packages. That is insane.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (0N4FZ) Most of the beef we buy comes through 4 major companies, two of which are foreign owned, and are being investigated for price fixing, both on the consumer side, but also on the price they pay for cattle on the hoof from the ranchers. Most ranchers and farmers are not self financed, and they will raise cattle on contract, which sucks when all the buyers offer the same price. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:35 PM (rbvCR) 53
38 This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...
Posted by: Nova Local Not good. Not good at all. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (2PamV) I thought I didn't like the 35 pts above resting heart rate from earlier in the week that I put up with for 2 days (we were 50/50 on urgent care, but no temp, so stayed home), but I could smell and taste then. Now, it's just a congestion bomb that isn't letting up (I'm on day 7 now)...kids were not hit as hard, but my spouse, who brought this home, was, so it does seem to really affect 40s+... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:36 PM (tOcjL) 54
Love a stuffed fish. Retro vibe. Like the Galloping Gourmet.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 04:37 PM (RIvkX) 55
Jumbo shrimp tonight. I was craving it. Only bought it because I got my quarterly bonus. Freaking beef is outrageous.
Homegrown veggies are a delicacy. From seed to harvest is somewhat challenging at times but always worth the effort. Good day to you all Posted by: Billythesquid at May 24, 2026 04:37 PM (auDTc) 56
Something odd is going on with beef. Walmart just increased the price on their 5 pound 80/20 ground chuck roll from $27 to almost $33 in the last two days. That is the third price increase in less than two months. It is $7.73 a pound if you buy it in the one pound packages. That is insane.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (0N4FZ) Yes, I felt like it was a steal getting the Aldi's all beef smashburgers for $9.99 for 2lbs today. You can't buy anything beef any cheaper. I don't love smashburgers, but when kids want burgers this summer, better to have them than none... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:37 PM (tOcjL) 57
45 I have chicken thighs in the fridge and about a half-cup of basil pesto (using unsalted pistachios). Thinking about the combo at the moment.
Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:31 PM (rj6Yv) That's a good combo - certain veg that love chicken also love pesto if you need a full meal idea and are avoiding pasta... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:38 PM (tOcjL) 58
38 This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...
Posted by: Nova Local Not good. Not good at all. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27 Great. I am flying to the east coast Thursday for my uncle’s funeral and my niece’s graduation party. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 04:39 PM (OoFl2) 59
I am making pork stew, pork is thin sliced and floured for frying, the rest is sauteed onions, carrots, yams and carrots. Black pepper, rosemary and bay leaves for spice.
I might do greens on the side. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:40 PM (rbvCR) 60
58 38 This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...
Posted by: Nova Local Not good. Not good at all. Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27 Great. I am flying to the east coast Thursday for my uncle’s funeral and my niece’s graduation party. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 04:39 PM (OoFl2) Avoid sniffling or coughing people. Don't believe allergies excuse. You'll be fine. Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (tOcjL) 61
I have a question for all the cocktail savant, gurus and aficionado. YouTube has directed me to a bartender who makes very attractive cocktails.
The thing that puzzles me is she adds two drops of saline to every cocktail, claiming it adds balance to the flavors. Sometimes she adds a drop of MSG. Have any of you heard of this? Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (wBzSI) 62
> Next year I am going to go all in on planting horseradish instead.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (rbvCR) For the love of God, plant it in a container. Horseradish is nearly as invasive as bamboo. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (IG3/x) Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (2Ez/1) 64
I found a small container of what turned out to be beef stew in the freezer. It was really good!
I'm working on clearing out the freezer. Spelunking turned up Trader Joe's kalua pork rolls and some Manchego bacon hors d'ouvers. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 04:42 PM (kpS4V) 65
Most ranchers and farmers are not self financed, and they will raise cattle on contract, which sucks when all the buyers offer the same price.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:35 PM (rbvCR) ===== In NC, we have state meat and poultry inspectors who grade meat and poultry products and they also check wholesale processors for sanitation and handling within the state. Pretty much what the federal inspectors do, except that sales are limited to in-state retail. Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:44 PM (rj6Yv) 66
Current beef prices make me glad that I don't care for beef. Pork is usually priced well, and on sale every two or three weeks at Kroger.
I did tuna casserole today, with some rotini I had in the cupboard, and made the cheese sauce from scratch. Poor people food suits me, apparently. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 04:45 PM (h7ZuX) 67
The Chieftain
@Chieftain_armor 4h These are whiskey bullets. They perform two functions. 1) It is how Texans cool their drink without ice melting and diluting said drink. 2) It gets you and your family a free tour of @DublinAirport baggage transfer and screening under armed airport police supervision when you have it in checked baggage [ . . . ] https://tinyurl.com/393t48cn Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:47 PM (rbvCR) 68
I put a pot of beans to soak last night, as usual, but when I got up to cook them this morning I recalled that I had a leftover seasoned pork chop in the fridge.
Rather than going with the standard ham or bacon, I chopped up the chop (which sounds redundant) and tossed that in, bone and all. 10/10. Will do this again. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (IG3/x) Hi. So... I stopped soaking beans after reading Queen Ida's preparation a few decades back. Unless you have diagnosed GI issues, the loss of flavor and, to a greater degree, color, obviates the soaking step, which has the added burden of planning ahead and taking up fridge space. Wash your beans. Cover with about 6 cups of water and add a diced onion. Do not salt the water. Bring to a boil, add olive oil or (better) bacon fat. Simmer for at least an hour, partially uncovered, adding water as needed to keep the beans covered. After one hour, add whatever meat you have on hand, stir well, and simmer for another hour, uncovered, adding water to achieve your desired thickness of the gravy. When the bean flattens against the slightest touch, it's done. Add salt and pepper to taste at that point... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:48 PM (nbLIj) 69
66 Current beef prices make me glad that I don't care for beef. Pork is usually priced well, and on sale every two or three weeks at Kroger.
I did tuna casserole today, with some rotini I had in the cupboard, and made the cheese sauce from scratch. Poor people food suits me, apparently. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 04:45 PM (h7ZuX) If I didn't need the iron, I'd be avoiding buying beef. As it is, if I see something beef on sale, and I think I can find some use for it (like the chunk above), I buy it and figure it out later in this price environment. Aka if it's $5 or under, it's bought - only exception is it must be 80 or better ground beef b/c with no gallbladder, I can't handle 73, no matter how I use it... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:49 PM (tOcjL) Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 24, 2026 04:50 PM (gnNyN) 71
Horseradish is nearly as invasive as bamboo.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (IG3/x) If you till, yes it is very invasive because it comes up from root fragments. I am probably going to turn that section into lawn so I can mow it, or maybe put rhubarb there, either way I don't much care. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:50 PM (rbvCR) 72
45 I have chicken thighs in the fridge and about a half-cup of basil pesto (using unsalted pistachios). Thinking about the combo at the moment.
Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:31 PM (rj6Yv) That's a good combo - certain veg that love chicken also love pesto if you need a full meal idea and are avoiding pasta... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:38 PM (tOcjL) === Yeah. The first half-cup of the pesto went with pasta and diced pancetta. Not bad, but I'm pasta-ed out at the moment Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:50 PM (rj6Yv) 73
I'm starting to do a lot of caregiving for an elderly relative. Rule 1: We're not buying any more food! We're eating down the inventory. This pantry is ridiculous. Plus three fridges in the house! Made a ton of meat sauce yesterday. Today, probably some kind of banana cake. I only like to make one Thing a day.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (n7rxJ) Elderly don't tend to get enough veggies. I used to make a dozen dinners for the MIL: three different dinners which each made four servings featuring a meat main, a veggie, and a small piece of pie, cookies, or cake for dessert. Would spend one afternoon a month making them up, froze them and stacked them in her freezer. The DH would then buy her ready-made salads and fruit to have in the house. Each frozen dinner was good for two meals for her. This worked well up until the point where she couldn't remember how to work a microwave due to advancing dementia. Posted by: tankascribe at May 24, 2026 04:51 PM (NtoJk) 74
This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am... Posted by: Nova Local What virus? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 04:53 PM (Cqx++) 75
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This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am... Posted by: Nova Local What virus? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 04:53 PM (Cqx++) The sucky one...no name b/c it isn't a flu or Covid...it's just sucky... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:53 PM (tOcjL) 76
>>One of my relations received a quantity of peaches and asked for suggestions. Mine was a pork loin with a peach chutney.
Peach butter: https://tinyurl.com/9h37s8em Peach clafoutis: https://tinyurl.com/m7kbwxh2 Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 04:53 PM (X8xt3) 77
Some states have ivermectin over the counter now. Here's something we are not told -- ivermectin works for a range of respiratory viruses, both as treatment and prophylactic. Not all, but it's impractical to identify exactly what bug a sick person has. We have found that ivermectin helps at least half the time and cuts the length of the sickness and the severity of the symptoms by about 2/3. Plus, it's safer than acetaminophen. I end up taking one dose about every two months during cold/flu season. It seems to keep me pretty well.
What works for us 100% of the time to prevent respiratory viruses is visiting a sauna 2-3 times per week. I'm talking a traditional sauna with the heater making the air temperature at least 185°, not those infrared saunas. But for some reason, saunas do not appear to be very popular in the mid-south. Heh. Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 04:54 PM (FMtrg) 78
But for some reason, saunas do not appear to be very popular in the mid-south. Heh.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 04:54 PM (FMtrg) == We call our saunas "July". Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:56 PM (rj6Yv) 79
I make peach jam. I used to make peach jam from the chewed up, browned and bruised peaches while I was canning peaches, but then I realized I liked peach jam much more than I liked canning peaches.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:56 PM (rbvCR) 80
> Unless you have diagnosed GI issues, the loss of flavor and, to a greater degree, color, obviates the soaking step, which has the added burden of planning ahead and taking up fridge space.
Nope. Not the same. I've tried all the various "quick" methods, but none of them come out as good as properly-soaked beans. I'm not sure what you mean by "fridge space". I just put them in the pot and put it on the top of the fridge or a cabinet. There's no reason to refrigerate them while soaking. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:59 PM (IG3/x) 81
One thing I do have to report on the spouse's Kashi Go experiment.
He tried the Honey Almond 10+10 flavor. It was wildly better than the 12+12 leaves and twigs, but still has not beaten the initial peanut butter 10+10. In fact peanut butter is still in the lead to such an extent that the spouse realized I didn't like it and took my open box to work before he took the unopened chocolate for trying. So, it's gonna eventually take a lot of chocolate to beat PB. Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 05:00 PM (tOcjL) 82
I'm not sure what you mean by "fridge space". I just put them in the pot and put it on the top of the fridge or a cabinet. There's no reason to refrigerate them while soaking.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgi Hard to get a good fermentation going on in the fridge. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 05:00 PM (/lPRQ) 83
Tousi going live on EweTube RE: Failed Iran Talks
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 05:00 PM (/lPRQ) 84
Asparagus: I cut off the woody bits then steam for 10ish minutes before roasting in butter and garlic. S&P to taste and maybe a dusting of grated parmesan and voila: my go to veg side for big groups.
Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 05:03 PM (GYx3d) 85
I don't soak beans before cooking. I make sure they're washed, and then I cook them allllll day or night in the crock pot.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 05:03 PM (h7ZuX) 86
Tried last week’s recipe, chicken with cornbread or cornbread with chicken, whatever it was, meh! I prefer fried chicken with a side of cornbread.
Local supermarket had gigantic ribeyes on sale for 16.99/lb. Did them on the pellet grill and they were fabulous. May have to go back and purchase a few more. Right now it’s time for a nap. Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 05:04 PM (2NHgQ) 87
These are whiskey bullets. They perform two functions.
1) It is how Texans cool their drink without ice melting and diluting said drink. 2) It gets you and your family a free tour of @DublinAirport baggage transfer and screening under armed airport police supervision when you have it in checked baggage [ . . . ] https://tinyurl.com/393t48cn Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:47 PM (rbvCR) I have those. They're good for keeping a couple of drinks cool, but you'll need multiple "magazines" for additional rounds. And I've had corkscrews taken from me at airports, so can only imagine the hilarity that would ensue if TSA found THOSE in my carry on... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:04 PM (nbLIj) Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 05:05 PM (GYx3d) 89
Next year I am going to go all in on planting horseradish instead.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (rbvCR) __________________________ Now you're taking my language. I grow horseradish and have learned a few things. I've found that the best way to keep the spread under control is to make a simple raised platform above the rest of the garden. I used old railroad ties to create a raised patch. You'll want constant sun on them, and the separated platform allows you to keep the soil damp (but not saturated). Homegrown horseradish is about 5x stronger than store bought. You can control the strength a bit using vineagar...but trust me, fresh horseradish recently grated is going to open your sinuses all the way to the back of your head. IT'S AWESOME. Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 05:07 PM (dIske) 90
Why not sous vide them until tender?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 04:16 PM (oyck1) You are probably poking fun at me, but that is a good idea! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:08 PM (iERP6) 91
Just finished rosemary garlic chicken with lemon, potatoes and steamed broccoli for son and spouse. I wasn't really hungry so I had leftovers from after church where we had raspberries, cherries and whipped cream. and goat cheese wrapped in cranberries with crackers.🙂 It went along with the red color for Pentecost.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2026 05:09 PM (OYsYV) 92
Mine was a pork loin with a peach chutney.
Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (rj6Yv) Classic! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:10 PM (iERP6) 93
Unless you have diagnosed GI issues, the loss of flavor and, to a greater degree, color, obviates the soaking step, which has the added burden of planning ahead and taking up fridge space.
Nope. Not the same. I've tried all the various "quick" methods, but none of them come out as good as properly-soaked beans. I'm not sure what you mean by "fridge space". I just put them in the pot and put it on the top of the fridge or a cabinet. There's no reason to refrigerate them while soaking. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:59 PM Agree. I have tried all sorts of quick soak or no soak cooking methods for pinto beans and none of them give me the texture I get with soaking them overnight for at least 8 hours. I am making pinto beans for tomorrow's BBQ lunch at the VFW for memorial day. I started soaking them this morning and I will put them in the crack pot at 8 tonight to cook on low. They will be perfect by noon tomorrow. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 05:12 PM (0N4FZ) 94
I used to make peach jam from the chewed up, browned and bruised peaches while I was canning peaches, but then I realized I liked peach jam much more than I liked canning peaches. Posted by: Kindltot It is good to learn, no matter what age you are. I'll bet that you are happy with this new arrangement. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 05:12 PM (s9VOe) 95
Kids love this dang chicken, as does spouse...everyone agrees that saving one of the 2 pouches was the right call...heck, I would have used even less sauce, but wasn't gonna save the open sauce bag.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 05:13 PM (tOcjL) 96
Food!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 05:14 PM (Wnv9h) 97
This weekend, I started cooking up a package of Chuckwagon 'ends and pieces' bacon. It's exactly what it sounds like; randomly-sized bits of bacon that were trimmed off the edges so the packaged bacon looked nice and square. Tastes, fine, but a little hard to prepare. It doesn't come out of the package in clean strips (all the pieces are intertwined and you've got to pull it apart) and it's a little hard to gauge how much constitutes a meal. Again, you can't count the strips, you just have to guess how much bacon is in the pile in the pan.
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (3v7ra) Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (FPdhZ) 99
I'm not sure what you mean by "fridge space". I just put them in the pot and put it on the top of the fridge or a cabinet. There's no reason to refrigerate them while soaking.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:59 PM (IG3/x) Been a while since I've soaked them, so can't recall if I left them out on the counter or not. 'Preciate the feedback.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (nbLIj) 100
Daily Mail says America's greatest sex secret place is Wyoming. Maybe the women like cowboy food. I live in Wyoming and I can't stop laughing. Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (3ek7K) 101
trust me, fresh horseradish recently grated is going to open your sinuses all the way to the back of your head. IT'S AWESOME.
Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 05:07 PM (dIske) It's incredible! Tastes great, but it's like being gassed in WWI! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:18 PM (iERP6) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM (3ek7K) 103
beans....
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:59 PM Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 05:12 PM (0N4FZ) How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM (iERP6) 104
"Again, you can't count the strips, you just have to guess how much bacon is in the pile in the pan."
Posted by: Castle Guy Get a digital kitchen scale. There are cheap, but functional ones around. For bacon, I'd do 4-8 oz. per serving. Scales have also made my baking better. YMMV. Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM (GYx3d) 105
You may need to toss a lot, depending when you get to the back of shelves (speaking from experience)...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (tOcjL) I have worked at a grocery store, so I actually shelve the same way at home -- an identical column all the way back, putting the newest in the rear for FIFO -- but I'm guessing most people don't. Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 05:22 PM (Sy6m/) 106
Scales have also made my baking better.
Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM (GYx3d) Oh yes... I find myself using my kitchen scale more and more, and not just for baking. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:22 PM (iERP6) 107
I mentioned in the last thread, but we did our Memorial Day cook out for the kids and grandkids today. And, of course, it poured rain the whole time.
So I grilled burgers, dogs, sausages and corn in the garage. The inside of my truck smells pretty good. 🤣 Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (jehhT) 108
How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water?
Never even heard of that. What's it supposed to do? I usually salt the water pretty heavily. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (4Mzca) 109
an identical column all the way back, putting the newest in the rear for FIFO -- but I'm guessing most people don't.
Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 05:22 PM (Sy6m/) That's what I do! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:24 PM (iERP6) 110
Mrs. E had a good report on her lymphoma treatment when she talked to the oncologist yesterday. I took her out to the Country Tavern in Kilgore, as promised. we even had leftovers.
Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:24 PM (LHPAg) 111
What's it supposed to do?
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (4Mzca) The baking soda will make the water mildly alkaline, so maybe it will break down the tougher outer skin. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:25 PM (iERP6) 112
I took her out to the Country Tavern in Kilgore, as promised. we even had leftovers.
Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:24 PM (LHPAg) I'm glad she still has an appetite, E. Bodes well for recovery. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 05:26 PM (h7ZuX) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:26 PM (iERP6) 114
In re beef prices: This Sunday's steak is a prime T-bone, priced from Detwiler's at 12.99/lb. Florida ranks anywhere from 10th-13th place in terms of US beef production. I'm guessing California outranks it, but my recent experience is the regulations there are eliminating any price advantage it once had. Used to be I'd regularly get a strip or even a ribeye for 6.99/lb on a holiday weekend. Last year as I recall, they were up to 10.99, and you would rarely see prime grade. Drought, shortages, and price fixing have definitely had an impact, but beef is the one indulgence for which I will pay any price...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:26 PM (nbLIj) 115
When I was a road warrior and flying about 50k per year I always on had biz dinner on fly out days so I could have a Bloody Mary or 3 on the plane.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 05:28 PM (/+uur) 116
I find myself using my kitchen scale more and more, and not just for baking.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:22 PM (iERP6) You could put on a few pounds and still be ok. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 05:30 PM (/+uur) 117
BEANS ...
Try using distilled water for soaking and/or cooking, especially if your tap water is hard (of the dry beans are old) ... The absence of minerals in the distilled water can help. Posted by: Kathy at May 24, 2026 05:31 PM (zuKcR) 118
(OR the dry beans are old)
Posted by: Kathy at May 24, 2026 05:32 PM (zuKcR) 119
The only fresh or frozen beans we cook are butterbeans, all other beans are dry and get overnight soak.
Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:35 PM (LHPAg) 120
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 05:12 PM (0N4FZ)
How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM I just use kosher salt and tap water. Been getting consistent results like that for over 50 years now. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 05:36 PM (0N4FZ) 121
Butterbeans are delicious. Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:36 PM (3ek7K) 122
How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water?
Never even heard of that. What's it supposed to do? I usually salt the water pretty heavily. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (4Mzca) According to Queen Ida (her cookbook from 1990 is one of the few allowed in my kitchen), it supposedly makes the unsoaked beans easier to digest. You add it in the final minutes of cooking. Never noticed an appreciable difference, so I stopped adding it... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:37 PM (nbLIj) 123
You are probably poking fun at me, but that is a good idea!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo Not this time! (next time for sure!) Take them to 186F is what I remember. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 05:37 PM (oyck1) 124
We always weigh out pasta and rice on the kitchen scale.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 05:38 PM (RIvkX) 125
122 How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water?
Never even heard of that. What's it supposed to do? I usually salt the water pretty heavily. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (4Mzca) According to Queen Ida (her cookbook from 1990 is one of the few allowed in my kitchen), it supposedly makes the unsoaked beans easier to digest. You add it in the final minutes of cooking. Never noticed an appreciable difference, so I stopped adding it... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:37 PM (nbLIj) We're all adults here. Baking soda is supposed to cut back on the indigestion/gas of your body trying to digest cellulose. Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:40 PM (LHPAg) 126
World's smallest bloody mary?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 24, 2026 05:42 PM (cWLG3) 127
That's what I do!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:24 PM (iERP6) Weirdo. Why don’t you just run out like everyone else. Then scramble around for a substitute. Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:42 PM (YZcg9) 128
Take them to 186F is what I remember.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 05:37 PM (oyck1) I'll try it...thanks for the tip! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:45 PM (iERP6) Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:46 PM (YZcg9) 130
Weirdo. Why don’t you just run out like everyone else. Then scramble around for a substitute.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:42 PM (YZcg9) A place for everything, and everything in its place! That's an old sailing saying, but it applies to cooking too. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:46 PM (iERP6) 131
Great news, Eromero! I've been praying for you two.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 05:47 PM (FMtrg) 132
Detwillers is fantastic. Love those ginger snaps.
Posted by: Pete Bog You know who else has good ginger snaps? Trader Joe's. Their triple ginger snaps are delish. Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 05:49 PM (lJ0H4) 133
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 05:38 PM (RIvkX)
I read your comment on the Kristoff essay. I understand your point, but I think the NYT timed that article, and Kristoff was their willing stooge. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:49 PM (iERP6) 134
Weirdo. Why don’t you just run out like everyone else. Then scramble around for a substitute.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:42 PM (YZcg9) Was making a blueberry crisp when I realized I didn't put the butter out to soften. I substituted mayonnaise. No one noticed, and I still go back and forth to see if there's any difference.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:49 PM (nbLIj) 135
Tonight is Chicken in Plum Sauce starting with Chicken Egg Drop soup,
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 05:50 PM (RIvkX) 136
Thursday I received 5 coupons for five 1.44 quart containers of Turkey Hill ice cream of my choice from the local gocery story I frequent. THAT is customer service.
Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 And you comnenting here makes it totally worth their effort. Win - win. Posted by: From about That Time at May 24, 2026 05:50 PM (sl73Y) Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:51 PM (YZcg9) 138
I read your comment on the Kristoff essay. I understand your point, but I think the NYT timed that article, and Kristoff was their willing stooge.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:49 PM (iERP6) === Do not disagree. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 05:51 PM (RIvkX) 139
Pete Bog, Lol. It's one of the stupidest things I've read. It must be around the Jackson Hole area where the beautiful people go. Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:54 PM (3ek7K) Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 05:55 PM (oyck1) 141
Vegetables…Yuck!
Funny how when you mature, your tastes change. In my youth, I hated spinach, broccoli, and asparagus. Loved carrots, but it’s the exact opposite now.Where I used to live, there were acres and acres of asparagus fields. You could hit the packing house in Feb or March and buy a flat of “seconds”. Like 6 bucks for 10 pounds… quality spears, but just not the most cosmetically perfect. Didn’t care, field fresh, and had plenty to give away. Now, it’s all Walnut trees. Sad. Posted by: Gunslinger at May 24, 2026 05:55 PM (HZfH/) 142
We tried something new this week: golden milk. I bought the spice mixture from a cute little downtown store and I mix it with coconut oil, honey, and raw goat milk.
It's quite good -- makes you feel like you're drinking something consequential. I got it for the anti-inflammatory properties. Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 05:56 PM (FMtrg) 143
Lol. It's one of the stupidest things I've read.
It must be around the Jackson Hole area where the beautiful people go. Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:54 PM (3ek7K) You mean there's more to Wyoming than just Jackson Hole? I had no idea. Posted by: Snooty Bi-Coastal Journalist at May 24, 2026 05:57 PM (Apzx6) 144
Detwillers is fantastic. Love those ginger snaps.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:46 PM (YZcg9) I'm partial to the Hudsonville ice cream. Little gets about four servings from the 48 oz carton of cookies n cream... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:58 PM (nbLIj) 145
Since I don’t fly anymore I need another excuse. Oh, I know, my phone is set to always say it’s after 5. It was easier when all I had to do is not wind my wrist watch.
Posted by: epador at May 24, 2026 05:59 PM (k8P87) 146
Be sure to read my next article: "How to get laid in Wyoming using This One Weird Trick!"
Posted by: Snooty Bi-Coastal Journalist at May 24, 2026 05:59 PM (Apzx6) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:01 PM (3ek7K) 148
Per Tousi, the "deal" with Iran that had everybody up in arms about this morning has collapsed.
We now return to our regular gluttonous programing. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 06:01 PM (Apzx6) 149
You mean there's more to Wyoming than just Jackson Hole? I had no idea.
Posted by: Snooty Bi-Coastal Journalist at May 24, 2026 05:57 PM (Apzx6) No there’s not. Just sagebrush and antelope. Avoid it at all costs. I’m afraid Wyoming is being “discovered”. Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:02 PM (YZcg9) 150
I cut asparagus into 1 inch pieces, then toss it into a skillet with sesame seed oil and soy sauce. Cook on low so the asparagus doesn't get soft and soggy. Recipe came from a Chinese cookbook.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 24, 2026 06:02 PM (DK5Sh) 151
If the farmers have also sold off a lot of breeding stock, you could be looking at 3 years before a beef shortage starts to be alleviated.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (IG3/x) FWIW, passing through Wyhoming, The OK panhandle, and W. Texas, there seemed to be plenty of cattle in the feedlots. You can really appreciate the aroma when driving in a convertible. Just got back from a drive out to Tortilla Flat. Had a very expensive margarita in the saloon there. Had to take a nap upn returning. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 06:04 PM (8zz6B) 152
"I'm ready for my close-up Mr DeMille!"
Posted by: Wyoming at May 24, 2026 06:04 PM (RIvkX) 153
I’m afraid Wyoming is being “discovered”.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:02 PM (YZcg9) My advice, if you see a car with out-of-state plates on it, go all "The Hills Have Eyes" on it before it's too late. Posted by: A Native Coloradan at May 24, 2026 06:05 PM (Apzx6) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:06 PM (3ek7K) 155
driving in a convertible.
Just got back from a drive out to Tortilla Flat. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon And what a pretty convertible it is! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 06:06 PM (oyck1) 156
Eromero, great news. Best to Mrs. E.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:07 PM (YZcg9) 157
I was in Wyoming in June and it snowed. No thanks.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 06:07 PM (RIvkX) 158
Idiots come dressed up in the brand spanking new cowboy clothing.
LOL Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:06 PM (3ek7K) Do ass-less chaps count as cowboy clothing? Asking for a friend. Posted by: A Relocating Californian at May 24, 2026 06:07 PM (Apzx6) 159
Not good. Not good at all.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (2PamV) I got the No Row virus once. had to buy an outboard motor. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 06:08 PM (8zz6B) 160
Do ass-less chaps count as cowboy clothing? Asking for a friend. Posted by: A Relocating Californian The last sec of trans would like to help pack your sh*t... Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 06:09 PM (oyck1) 161
A friend sent me a trio of wines a few days ago. The box said do not deliver to an intoxicated person. It was a good thing I wasnt day drinking then!
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 24, 2026 06:09 PM (kYmoU) 162
And you comnenting here makes it totally worth their effort.
Win - win. Posted by: From about That Time at May 24, 2026 05:50 PM (sl73Y) _________________ I wrote a thank you letter complimenting them on their priorities and naming the customer service rep. by name. Good deeds shall be rewarded. Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 06:09 PM (dIske) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:10 PM (3ek7K) 164
Garrett's popcorn at O'Hare and Midway is the only thing that will break my nutrition guidelines. And it's not a pretty sight when I dig in.
Posted by: SS at May 24, 2026 06:12 PM (52U6V) 165
I’m afraid Wyoming is being “discovered”.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:02 PM (YZcg9) This. My daddy grew up on a farm in Laramie. His grandfather was a "gentleman farmer," which meant my daddy and his daddy did all the work. WWII kinda ruined all that, and they ended up moving to Seattle, but the old barn is still there, behind the old house, which is now pretty much in town. And the gopher house, which my grandpa built after he came back from WWI. Neither he nor the gopher house were ever "right," and now somebody is running a horse place at the old gopher house, which for some reason they call the stone church. We call it the gopher house because nobody will ever live there except... gophers. Lol. Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 06:12 PM (DwqWV) 166
Western Washington was nice until the Californicators started moving in about 40 years ago.
We hated them back in the 80s. Knew they were no good. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2026 06:13 PM (A5RD0) 167
142 We tried something new this week: golden milk. I bought the spice mixture from a cute little downtown store and I mix it with coconut oil, honey, and raw goat milk.
It's quite good -- makes you feel like you're drinking something consequential. I got it for the anti-inflammatory properties. Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May Try moon milk next. Js kiddo and mine still ask for it before bed when we are all together. I can give you the spice breakdown for golden milk, too, if you ever want to just do it on your own. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 06:13 PM (OoFl2) 168
A saw a real cowboy once. I knew he was a real one because he had a dollop of cow shit stuck to the brim of his Stetson hat.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 06:13 PM (Apzx6) 169
Well it did snow here last week.
There was some great dinner here last night. Friends over so we fired up the real wood fire and roasted leg of lamb with harissa and crispy skinned chicken. Duck fat crispy potatoes and spicy shrimp appetizer. Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:14 PM (YZcg9) 170
It's asparagus season in Wisconsin ... so our supply chain right now is about 24 hours deep. Glory! Just about every roadside stand has it.
Woody stems, now, that's a problem still; I often discard the lowest 1/4 or so for that reason. hey, thanks to RFKjr butter and salt are now healthy foods again! (just like they always were ... ) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 06:16 PM (VyBeY) 171
Western Washington was nice until the Californicators started moving in about 40 years ago.
We hated them back in the 80s. Knew they were no good. Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2026 06:13 PM (A5RD0) Western Oregon says "Hold My Beer." When the California Hippies began mating with the Oregon Okies, well, lets just say it wasn't pretty. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 06:16 PM (Apzx6) 172
Daily Mail says America's greatest sex secret place is Wyoming.
Maybe the women like cowboy food. I live in Wyoming and I can't stop laughing. Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (3ek7K) So? What's the secret? Seems like once they print it... Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 06:17 PM (DwqWV) 173
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:14 PM (YZcg9)
Sounds delicious! Lamb and fire go well together. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (iERP6) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (3ek7K) 175
I was in Wyoming in June and it snowed. No thanks.
Posted by: San Franpsycho It snows in Australia in June. Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (W5mpo) 176
A saw a real cowboy once. I knew he was a real one because he had a dollop of cow shit stuck to the brim of his Stetson hat.
A long joke, probably split across multiple posts. A kid from the city visits a working ranch. He see a cowboy all dressed in cowboy gear and is curious. "Why do you wear that hat?" "My Stetson? When it's sunny, I tip it forward and it keeps the sun out of my eyes. When it's rainy, I tip it backwards and the rain runs down the back of my poncho instead of down my neck." "Oh, that makes sense. Why do you wear that scarf?" (1/x) Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (vTZFs) 177
I don't mind snow in June so long as it shoots back up to 65 and sunny. The only part of WYO I have spent time in is Laramie and the Snowy Range. A bit too much wind for my taste. And it is constant. But the Snowy Range is lovely.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 06:19 PM (DwqWV) 178
170 It's asparagus season in Wisconsin ... so our supply chain right now is about 24 hours deep. Glory! Just about every roadside stand has it.
Woody stems, now, that's a problem still; I often discard the lowest 1/4 or so for that reason. I peel the woody ends Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 06:20 PM (FtULh) 179
"My kerchief? It keeps my neck from getting sunburned. If the wind is blowing, I can pull it up over my mouth and nose to keep the dust out."
"That makes sense. Why do you wear those leg things?" "My chaps? They protect my legs when I'm riding through brush." (2/x) Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (vTZFs) 180
our garlic is looking fantastic, well over a foot tall; I was saying to Mrs the other day that it looks like we will be harvesting scapes pretty soon ... tasty mild garlic flavor in any mix of steamed veggies.
We're also having nettle greens as a vegetable right now, still tender, very good. Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (VyBeY) 181
"Makes sense. Why do you wear tennis shoes?"
"So you can tell me apart from the truck drivers." (3/3) Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (vTZFs) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (3ek7K) 183
We get snow here I would expect we are going into a new ice age . Supposed to be mid 70s tomorrow, 80s couple days after that
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 06:22 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:22 PM (3ek7K) 185
The new roof deck panels are installed, and covered with tarpaper. Next step is shingles. Will get up at zero-dark thirty, hang as many shingles as we can before the Sun gets too high.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 06:23 PM (8zz6B) 186
Lamb and fire go well together.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM Yes. Yes, they do. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 06:26 PM (Wnv9h) 187
AOP my roof life could last 5 years at least, but pondered when might be the last year I could do it.
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 06:26 PM (Ia/+0) 188
183 We get snow here I would expect we are going into a new ice age . Supposed to be mid 70s tomorrow, 80s couple days after that
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 06:22 PM (Ia/+0) We are already in the 80s. 87 next week. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 06:27 PM (OoFl2) 189
'Broccoli' translated from Italian is 'Green Death'. Carry on...
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 06:28 PM (NcvvS) 190
We be nots cook animel meet buts plant b ased protine to help e do globill warming and protect animal rites.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at May 24, 2026 06:28 PM (+nL6B) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:30 PM (3ek7K) 192
182 Visit someplace you like then move there and screw it up.
WTH is wrong with people? Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (3ek7K) It's the old parable of the grasshopper and the ant, except worse. The Locust People can't accept that they're the problem, so once their nest is foul -- weird, how did that happen? -- they go seek out another place that is still nice. It's just a mystery how invisible supernatural forces follow them everywhere they go, ruining every place they move to! Couldn't possibly be the consequences of their own choices, since they swear their intentions are the best. (And if you disagree, then you're just a stupid meany that hates a lot.) Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 06:31 PM (Sy6m/) 193
We don't get parasitic invaders here. Oh no, no drive thru coffee place? The world is going to end. Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:34 PM (3ek7K) 194
Mary,
Plants have feeling too !!! How inhuman of you to eat them !!! I suggest you BBQ Dirt that way you are doing something to save the animals..... Posted by: Jackson K. at May 24, 2026 06:35 PM (xl8DV) 195
We have a Subway here and one of those soda places the Mormon women started. The soda place is always empty. Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:40 PM (3ek7K) 196
Grilled Burgers,Fries, Jalapeño Poppers and corn on the cob on the menu for tomorrow.
And Drew Carey is officially an asshoe. Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 06:40 PM (qrzX6) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:41 PM (3ek7K) 198
Get a digital kitchen scale. There are cheap, but functional ones around. For bacon, I'd do 4-8 oz. per serving.
Scales have also made my baking better. YMMV. Posted by: RS at May 24, Kitchen scale and measure dry stuff in grams. Makes baking and scaling recipes much easier. Posted by: From about That Time at May 24, 2026 06:42 PM (sl73Y) 199
Luckily, I don't have to worry about antibiotics because I can call my neighbor and get side of organic, sustainable beef, or a whole non-GMO pig. One of the benefits of living in the boonies.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 06:45 PM (D1E+2) 200
I would love to get sled'able snow in S.F. Some of these streets would be awesome! Going south on Gough from Pac Heights you'd catch air, or down from Diamond Hts, etc.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 06:46 PM (W5mpo) 201
Huh. A thunderstorm here in SE AZ at this time of year? Interesting. Maybe this so-called Super El Nino will be good for us down here after all.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at May 24, 2026 06:51 PM (OD5vY) 202
Guns up.
Posted by: From about That Time at May 24, 2026 07:04 PM (sl73Y) 203
A bloody Mary sounds good about now. Or a bloody Maria.
It's unfortunate when your family and friends show up and drink up all of your booze, but at least I'm not driving. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 07:05 PM (D1E+2) 204
And Drew Carey is officially an asshoe.
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 06:40 PM (qrzX6) 197 He's still alive? Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:41 PM (3ek7K) Yes, and after donating to Joe "Marionette" Biden in 2020, he's attacking Spencer Pratt as a fraud. His braincell must get lonely. Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 07:20 PM (Sy6m/) 205
I would love to get sled'able snow in S.F. Some of these streets would be awesome! Going south on Gough from Pac Heights you'd catch air, or down from Diamond Hts, etc.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 06:46 PM (W5mpo) ==== These people can barely drive in the best of conditions. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 07:31 PM (RIvkX) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 08:49 PM (P+D9B) First World Problems...![]() Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Those were the days!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (8schn) 2
Isn't that the same miniature camera model OSS used to take photos of NAZI war plans?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (/lPRQ) 3
I was on a plane, and the internet wasn't working...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh) Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 02:58 PM (3ek7K) 5
I was on a plane, and the internet wasn't working...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh) - Was it a fly-by-wire plane? Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 02:59 PM (8schn) 6
Donate it to a museum or college so she can see it without you possessing it. I mean I'd be tossing it in the trash after showing her the pic you took (so she still has the memory of it), but I'm a townhome owner, so I'm ruthless on useless stuff. No use, no use here.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 02:59 PM (tOcjL) 7
So, I guess there's no hope for my Polaroid Swinger.
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at May 24, 2026 02:59 PM (3ImbR) 8
ebay, and then use the money for steaks
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (oyck1) 9
Thanks to Hour of the Wolf for the heads-up. Willow'd:
Who was the 'journalist' that Ace said should get a hot dog stand, because he looked like he'd be really great at slinging dogs? It was a whole article of its own, with riffs like how he could probably pay for his retirement by just parking outside Brian Stelter's studio. Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (Sy6m/) 10
@ScottJenningsKY
· 38m 🚨After receiving a briefing from a Senior TRUMP Administration Official on the status of the Iran negotiations (someone in the know & not just speculating), I can tell you the following: -USA IS NOT GIVING IRANIANS MONEY FOR NOTHING AND NO CHICKS FOR FREE Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (ZxPkt) 11
So, I guess there's no hope for my Polaroid Swinger.
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at May 24, 2026 02:59 PM (3ImbR) - It was only a nickel less than the price in town. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (8schn) 12
Actually, that's pretty cool. I'd like to have one. I wouldn't buy it, but if I had it I'd display it on a bookshelf. I have a few old cameras I keep on my bookshelf, sort of a Man Cave thing.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (4BekB) Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (ZxPkt) 14
Antiques Roadshow? We'll see you and your wife there!
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (NFX2v) 15
So, I guess there's no hope for my Polaroid Swinger.
Posted by: IrishEi ?! Just search the net for "Polaroid Swinger film". Plenty out there. Turn off 'safe-search' for best results. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (/lPRQ) 16
As said downstairs, my 1WP is I self inflicted wrecking my tailgate on mh truck. I shut it and that msde it worse as can't open it now.
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:04 PM (Ia/+0) 17
CBD, I inherited 2 ancient cameras from an aunt
one like above, and the other a Box Brownie I kept them for a while, then gave them away to a collector Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:05 PM (ZxPkt) 18
Way back in 80s, had a camera not unlike that thst instant pictures. Got film a couple times and played with it
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:05 PM (Ia/+0) 19
I bought Mom and Dad a Polaroid 440 camera and kit as a present. This was at the Danang PX where there was any number of high quality Jap cameras available. Mom and Dad wanted one of those Polaroids. I should have bought a couple cases of film.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (gm9Sb) Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (ZxPkt) 21
-USA IS NOT GIVING IRANIANS MONEY FOR NOTHING
AND NO CHICKS FOR FREE Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (ZxPkt) -------- How are they going to move these refrigerators? How are they going to move these color TVs? Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (n9eFH) 22
If you have someone who is a photographer or interested in photography, decorating with a few antique cameras on the wall is a cool idea!
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (Wmg4n) 23
USA IS NOT GIVING IRANIANS MONEY FOR NOTHING
AND NO CHICKS FOR FREE Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (ZxPkt) -------- How are they going to move these refrigerators? How are they going to move these color TVs? Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (n9eFH) They can join China's Belt and Road initiative. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:07 PM (qx7Zg) 24
I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (Wmg4n) 25
Isn't that the same miniature camera model OSS used to take photos of NAZI war plans?
—— Ha! Ironically from my reading of the wartime spook stuff, German (or Swiss maybe) miniatures were preferred or practical for that stuff. As might be envisioned, they were hard to get for allies. One thing they came up too, was the “Microdot”or miniature documents contained in the sentence at the end of a period in an otherwise ordinary letter or document. While it was totally illegal nobody cared too much, and the FBI and other orgs opened a lot of mail. Disappearing ink, ciphers, all sorts of stuff. One thing that put the US at a disadvantage, considerable intelligence could be gleaned by going to any decent sized library, and subscribing to major magazines. “Aviation Leak” it was termed. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (sEgd8) 26
I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (Wmg4n) Saijo isn't cutting it as a pre-washer? Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:09 PM (qx7Zg) 27
Find a young(er) relative who is a camera nut and make it a gift?
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:09 PM (6wpGE) 28
Skip, is the tailgate electric open or manual? There are you tube videos that show you how to get into the tailgate from the inside panel to use an emergency manual override of the electric button to open the gate. We had to do that once on a tailgate that malfunctioned and wouldn’t open with the button on the gate nor the key fob.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 24, 2026 03:10 PM (M4pvf) 29
my grocer no longer carries Family Size Keebler Sandies all is lost... Posted by: Don Black Don't despair! https://tinyurl.com/mryxmkff Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 03:10 PM (oyck1) 30
-USA IS NOT GIVING IRANIANS MONEY FOR NOTHING
AND NO CHICKS FOR FREE Posted by: Don Black ----- Coming up to 10:45 PM in Tehran, we'll see how negotiations are going in a little while. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 03:11 PM (pRWl6) 31
25 German cameras, binoculars, etc. were always prized for clarity in lenses. Fun fact. During the First World War, trade continued between Britain and Germany, German lenses for Brit rubber, until mid 1915.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 24, 2026 03:11 PM (gm9Sb) 32
My FWP is that I have a working scanner, so I can now hear the police reports about dogs locked in cars with all the windows up and engine off.
F'in Idiots! Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (qx7Zg) 33
3 I was on a plane
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh) I thought you were gonna say you were in the pool. Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (6wpGE) 34
26 I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (Wmg4n) Saijo isn't cutting it as a pre-washer? Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:09 PM Ha! Saijo is actually really funny about food. I am not sure if it is because he spent the first 9 months of his life in a cage, but he won’t eat anything and everything. If you offer him something he doesn’t like, he will very gingerly take it from you, and then spit it out in a corner of the room. Almost like he doesn’t want to offend you. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (Wmg4n) 35
What you’ll quickly find, good used tailgates are proportionally expensive. And the paint won’t even match.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (sEgd8) 36
Manual opening, will try again when its not miserable outside.
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:13 PM (Ia/+0) 37
33 3 I was on a plane
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh) I thought you were gonna say you were in the pool. Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (6wpGE) Not in this weather... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 03:13 PM (tOcjL) 38
37 33 3 I was on a plane
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh) I thought you were gonna say you were in the pool. Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (6wpGE) Not in this weather... Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 03:13 PM (tOcjL) NTTAWWT Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:14 PM (6wpGE) 39
My grandfather was in the Army Air Service after WWI (he didn't finish flight school until after the armistice), and his assignment was to monitor Germany's compliance with the Treaty of Versailles, taking lots of photos to document what they were doing. I have the camera he used for that, and every camera he ever owned since. The best one is the Realist, a 3-D camera. They still make the film for that.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at May 24, 2026 03:14 PM (+2GyC) 40
32 My FWP is that I have a working scanner, so I can now hear the police reports about dogs locked in cars with all the windows up and engine off.
F'in Idiots! Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (qx7Zg) What do those people get charged with, do you know? Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:14 PM (6wpGE) 41
FWD!!
Not used to being up during the daytime. Must try to stay awake.....zzzzzzzzz Actually I'm fine, just a bit groggy. I'm making lists of things to do and not forget before I travel across the mighty Appalachians to my former homestead in Pennsyltucky! Thinking of visiting the Allegheny Portage Railroad National Historic Site and the Horseshoe Curve National Historic Site. Its on my route home, more or less. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:15 PM (sAmhv) 42
Deal is off! no deal !!
Lol Our Dear Leader got an angry call from Bibi And the GOP warhawks He calls into ABC News in total panic Posted by: Paul at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (1xQU5) 43
There must be some artisanal hipster film manufacturer who can make some replacement film for you.
Then you can stage a 1977 party and have everyone dress period-appropriate for a photo shoot. A little weed, a little wine... Nothing Bob Crane-y, mind you. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (kpS4V) 44
My kid got a new Polaroid for Xmas. She loves it. She is fascinated by old tech.
Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (1ZN8d) Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (sAmhv) 46
That is an, absolutely wonderful, display piece. I'd center it on a shelf surrounded by old family photos.
My 29 year old eyes suggest that is a 1947 or 48 Polaroid Land Camera Model 95. You're not going to use it again unless you hire someone to alter it's guts and make it more conduscent to modern film. That one has no replacement film options. Were it me, I'd find a nice antique table that catches the eye on its own, center the camera in the middle and surround it with very old photos of relatives including its original owner. Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (dIske) 47
Polaroid Swinger trivia:
The Swinger's catchy commercial jingle was written by.... Barry Manilow! Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (8schn) 48
I've ordered cookies off Amazon before. They suffer in transit.
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (ZxPkt) 49
but thnx for the tip
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:17 PM (ZxPkt) 50
40 32 A friend in Ohio bought a scanner at Radio Shack, and got lucky that it had the local cop cristals. Listening in, he heard the news about his idiot kid getting locked up.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 24, 2026 03:17 PM (gm9Sb) 51
Troll sighting.
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:17 PM (6wpGE) 52
Been watching A Bridge Too Far, still 1/2 hour to go
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:17 PM (Ia/+0) 53
That is a lovely camera. I am sure you will treat it well.
Posted by: EFG at May 24, 2026 03:18 PM (nGRqb) 54
I've ordered cookies off Amazon before. They suffer in transit.
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (ZxPkt) - Sounds like they need to be comforted after they arrive. Perhaps they have a chip on their shoulder. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:19 PM (8schn) 55
I still have - what? - 3 or 5 old Polaroid cameras WITH the proper cases. One has an electro-acoustic rangefinder. They are such neat cameras - and I enjoyed the hell out of 'em - I can't get rid of them. Yes, I still have an UNOPENED pack of film for one of them … but I don't want to open it 'cos I can't buy more now.
Posted by: Dr_No at May 24, 2026 03:19 PM (ayRl+) 56
My FWP is that I have a working scanner, so I can now hear the police reports about dogs locked in cars with all the windows up and engine off.
F'in Idiots! Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (qx7Zg) What do those people get charged with, do you know? Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:14 PM (6wpGE) I heard the initial report, but had to step away, so I didn't get to hear the result. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:20 PM (qx7Zg) 57
There is a collector hobby market for vintage cameras and film. I guess it keeps OK if sealed up well and refrigerated. Getting it developed might be a problem. Kodachrome was a specialized process.
Flashcubes. Remember those? I’m sure they sell well on eBay. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:20 PM (sEgd8) 58
54 I've ordered cookies off Amazon before. They suffer in transit.
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (ZxPkt) - Sounds like they need to be comforted after they arrive. Perhaps they have a chip on their shoulder. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:19 PM (8schn) They could be sprinkled on icecream. The drear work of chopping them into sprinkle-sized pieces having already been done. Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:22 PM (6wpGE) 59
My FWP is that I have a working scanner, so I can now hear the police reports about dogs locked in cars with all the windows up and engine off.
F'in Idiots! Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (qx7Zg) What do those people get charged with, do you know? Posted by: m === Worked with a lady who locked her baby in the car. She said as soon as the door closed, she realized the keys were still in it, looked in window, yup, keys in there. Started to mouth "oh, shit" as she turned around, saw a big enough rock, swooped it up, stepped to the back window, and SMASH. Not even ten seconds tops. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:22 PM (/lPRQ) 60
41 FWD!!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:15 PM (sAmhv) 45 41: FWP!!!! Oops.... Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (sAmhv) FWD FWP! Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:23 PM (6wpGE) 61
Kodak says if the 1924 British Everest expedition camera carried by George Mallory could be found, there should still be usable images upon development. Cold and dry up at 29000 feet.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:24 PM (sEgd8) 62
I'm in the midst of digitally archiving many family artifacts. Earlier this week I came across a 1968 Polaroid of my father and his siblings.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 03:24 PM (2Ez/1) 63
Old cameras look good as sculptures on a shelf if you have a number of them.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2026 03:26 PM (n5tGW) 64
Polaroid Swinger trivia:
The Swinger's catchy commercial jingle was written by.... Barry Manilow! Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, More trivia - Before the Polaroid "Swinger" they were known as "people of the inverted pineapple". Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:26 PM (/lPRQ) Posted by: P. Simon at May 24, 2026 03:27 PM (2Ez/1) 66
65 >Kodachrome was a specialized process.
+++ You could write a song about that. Posted by: P. Simon at May 24, 2026 03:27 PM (2Ez/1) It gives you the nice, bright colors. Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:28 PM (6wpGE) 67
Edward Land, inventor of the Polaroid, was a standup guy and played a large though largely unknown role in high altitude spy photography for the U-2 and subsequent space satellite imagery.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:28 PM (sEgd8) 68
A Smithsonian donation seems appropriate.
Posted by: Patrick at May 24, 2026 03:28 PM (9UngV) 69
>Edward Land, inventor of the Polaroid, was a standup guy and played a large though largely unknown role in high altitude spy photography for the U-2 and subsequent space satellite imagery.
----- and taking naughty photos of the missus snap snap grin grin Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (ZxPkt) 70
Certainly could be interesting to search web for old film
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (Ia/+0) 71
Paul, you finish your homework or I'll take it away!
Posted by: Mama at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (2Ez/1) 72
I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (Wmg4n) I am pulling the motor out of my clothes washer today to see if that is the reason it stopped working. Seriously, it is that, the clutch or the timer switches, since that is pretty much all that I have not removed and inspected, and none of the other options smell like fried electrical equipment. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (rbvCR) 73
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58 54 I've ordered cookies off Amazon before. They suffer in transit. Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (ZxPkt) - Sounds like they need to be comforted after they arrive. Perhaps they have a chip on their shoulder. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:19 PM (8schn) What a macaroon! Posted by: Bugs Bunny at May 24, 2026 03:31 PM (as+Gn) 74
Nudge, nudge. Wink, wink. Say no more, say no more!
Posted by: Is she a goer? at May 24, 2026 03:32 PM (2Ez/1) Posted by: Wesley Crusher at May 24, 2026 03:32 PM (n9eFH) 76
>>>@13 FWP: my grocer no longer carries Family Size Keebler Sandies ... all is lost ...Posted by: Don Black
================== Greetings, DB ... Cat Scratch Kitchen has a Youtube video named "The Best Copycat Keebler Sandies Recipe You Need to Try" ... Recipe ingredients and directions are included. Posted by: Kathy at May 24, 2026 03:32 PM (zuKcR) 77
The Soviets took the first photos of the far side of the Moon. But they used American film - special thin film stuff confiscated from a downed plane
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (sEgd8) 78
It's gorgeous. Display it on a shelf.
Posted by: DinsdalePiranha at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (yFfLy) Posted by: Pepperidge Farm at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (8schn) 80
Every time I throw something like this away, I need it 3 years later -- or I see one on the internet for $10,000. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (n7rxJ) 81
I have a 100+ year old Leica 35mm camera. Ridiculously complicated.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (jehhT) 82
! Fucking spell correct
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (sEgd8) 83
There may be a collector who will pay good Money, and give it a good home.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (P+ul4) 84
Certainly could be interesting to search web for old film
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (Ia/+0) It used to be possible to source old film types from Czechia and Serbia (probably Serbia, maybe Montenegro, I forget) since they had the old Agfa-type Soviet era producers. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (rbvCR) 85
TY Kathy
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (ZxPkt) 86
Certainly could be interesting to search web for old film
Posted by: Skip ----- 15 So, I guess there's no hope for my Polaroid Swinger. Posted by: IrishEi ?! Just search the net for "Polaroid Swinger film". Plenty out there. Turn off 'safe-search' for best results. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:35 PM (/lPRQ) 87
>>>Just search the net for "Polaroid Swinger film".
Plenty out there. ~~~~~ Last time I used it was at a Harlem Globetrotters game. If I hadn't written on the photos, you might have thought they were pictures from a family album of ants. Posted by: IrishEi ?! at May 24, 2026 03:35 PM (3ImbR) 88
Who was the 'journalist' that Ace said should get a hot dog stand, because he looked like he'd be really great at slinging dogs? It was a whole article of its own, with riffs like how he could probably pay for his retirement by just parking outside Brian Stelter's studio.
Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (Sy6m/) Oh I remember now, it was Chris Hayes. And with that, I was able to find it and discover that I misremembered: it wasn't Stelter funding his retirement, it was Ed Schultz covering the rent. March 13, 2015 And Now a Polite and High-Minded Conversation With Chris Hayes In Which We Discuss The Important Matters of The Day As Well as His Future With MSNBC https://ace.mu.nu/archives/355499.php Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:35 PM (Sy6m/) 89
76 >>>@13 FWP: my grocer no longer carries Family Size Keebler Sandies ... all is lost ...Posted by: Don Black
================== If you happen to live near an Aldi: https://tinyurl.com/ywtd4y6y Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (2Ez/1) Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ) 91
When I was a kid I thought that "Land camera" meant that it wasn't suitable for underwater use. I had no idea that the guy who invented it was named Land.
There are several outfits that've geared up to start manufacturing Polaroid films again, though I don't recall seeing any for cameras this old. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 03:38 PM (IG3/x) 92
Yay indeed! What kind?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ) Mine is a brunette. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:38 PM (594J6) 93
As much as I know that I was a much better photographer with film and my Canon AE-1 and a span of five lenses from macro through "regular" to telephoto. when the time came to say, "Adios!" to them, I did so with only the slightest twinge of regret. My photos that I liked best, because I had to work at them, were of people, particularly our scouts, engaged in their activities. Vistas, landscapes, and the like I conceded to others. A camera on a smart phone is vood enough for me and mine at this stage. Have I surrendered something? Sure. But I have other areas where I wish to be creative, too. So it goes. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:39 PM (s9VOe) 94
92 Yay indeed! What kind?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ) Mine is a brunette. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:38 PM ____ The horde never disappoints. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 03:40 PM (2Ez/1) 95
Start searching for a collector that wants that camera (might take 3 years of on and off searching) and unload it to said collector for a pretty penny, otherwise it will be worthless.
For the purpose of memories, open that thing up, set it on a dark mat, and take multiple digital pictures of it from every angle, then your wife can look at those when she wants to. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 03:40 PM (O7YUW) 96
Yay indeed! What kind?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ) Mine is a brunette. Posted by: Reforger So is mine. Wait a minute.... Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2026 03:41 PM (as+Gn) 97
Henry Ford museum in Dearborn MI would be a great contact. They have an online contact form to submit for discussion on placing your item and their displays of this type of item are top notch.It would be preserved and cataloged with your wife’s grandfather’s name and will be seen by thousands of people rather than being stored away at your home.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 24, 2026 03:41 PM (M4pvf) 98
Edward Land, inventor of the Polaroid, was a standup guy and played a large though largely unknown role in high altitude spy photography for the U-2 and subsequent space satellite imagery.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:28 PM (sEgd True. There was a time when where Land worked was classified when connecting that location with film. Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (2WIwB) 99
FWP!!!
I just rebooted my gateway. The Internet just.....stopped. I was watching the Indy 500 and then it just stopped. A spinning circle letting me know something is amiss. So, with my decades worth of advanced technical experience, I rebooted the gateway. Hope that works. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (0FDsh) 100
Chris Hayes, if I recall correctly, wrote of sobbing softly into the sleeve of his sweater. About what? Who the hell knows? Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (s9VOe) 101
I carried an AE-1 and all the accessories and lenses and accoutrements (including, a fucking Tripod) on a backpack trip through Grand Teton NP. This was in addition to all the other stuff ordinarily carried in a backpack in the 1980s
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (sEgd8) 102
Oh shit. Here she comes.
Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:43 PM (594J6) 103
You can modify these to shoot 120 with 3d printed parts.
I have one of these in my collection but haven't modded it yet. I still like to shoot film as a hobby, mostly because my Dad left me a decent Olympus with a full load of lenses. It helps that you can now pick up lenses and accesories for next to nothing. Posted by: stv at May 24, 2026 03:43 PM (XMeSM) Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 03:44 PM (2WIwB) 105
Henry Ford museum in Dearborn MI would be a great contact. They have an online contact form to submit for discussion on placing your item and their displays of this type of item are top notch.It would be preserved and cataloged with your wife’s grandfather’s name and will be seen by thousands of people rather than being stored away at your home. Posted by: Jen the original Well, at least until the local Moo Slims go all jihadist and sack and burn the place down the ground. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:45 PM (s9VOe) 106
You can make your own film, you know.
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 03:45 PM (vFG9F) 107
DanMa'am hung onto some film from a projector from the mid 50s to early 60s, family films made by her dad. Sent them of to those guys that do old films. Got three CDs worth of excellent color films ranging from her parents first house in Denver (under construction and finished), many days on the beach in La Jolla and a lot of her as a baby to about 5 years old with her little brother. And the cars of the era.
Very cool stuff. Posted by: DanMan at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (8uzBS) 108
I later sold the whole shootin’ match for $175, not too bad I thought. Telephoto, standard lens, etc. the flash device even still worked. There is still a market. I think it went to eastern europe or some russia adjacent place
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (sEgd8) 109
> Kodachrome was a specialized process.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:20 PM (sEgd Yep. Processes C-41 and E-6 (color negative and Ektachrome color slides respectively) could be done at a local lab or even at home with a bit of care. Process K-14 (Kodachrome color slides) was...not easy to process. You had to have an actual analytic chemist on staff if you wanted to get good results. Part of it was that Kodachrome was actually dyed during development, while the others had the dyes already in their specific layers of the film. However, this meant that you could use super-mondo-skookum dyes, making for unmatched image quality and image stability. Ektachrome slides from the 70s mostly look like ass. Properly stored Kodachrome still looks grerat. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (IG3/x) 110
I've been informed that the vacuum cleaner needs to get to work.
Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (594J6) 111
I am pulling the motor out of my clothes washer today to see if that is the reason it stopped working. Seriously, it is that, the clutch or the timer switches, since that is pretty much all that I have not removed and inspected, and none of the other options smell like fried electrical equipment. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 We have already replaced the washing machine we bought when we built the house. It’s crazy, the part that was broken was more than a new machine. I definitely upgraded the dishwasher from what the builders put in with this purchase, hopefully that makes a difference. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (Wmg4n) 112
OT- Babylon Bee
Study finds link between checking the news and wishing Jesus to return: https://tinyurl.com/2z9fnwmh Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2026 03:47 PM (looXz) 113
I'd like, as one of the Troublesome Texans on this blog, to observe that every FWP presented so far in this series is hylic in nature.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (0sNs1) 114
Did you get an AI dishwasher that arranges the dishes for you?
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (vFG9F) 115
I still have a Nikon F2 35mm SLR which I got in 1977. Haven't thought about finding film, but can't get rid of it either.
Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (GYx3d) 116
78 It's gorgeous. Display it on a shelf.
Posted by: DinsdalePiranha at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (yFfLy) That would require dusting?!!!??? Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (6wpGE) 117
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (s9VOe)
According to Brave AI, Hayes "tweeted the phrase 'Looking out the window and quietly crying into my sweater' in April 2007." "The search context does not specify the exact personal reason for his distress at that time, noting only that he was working as a writing fellow at the Nation Institute and a contributing writer at The Nation magazine." Musical interlude: The Neighbourhood - Sweater Weather (Official Video) https://youtu.be/GCdwKhTtNNw Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:49 PM (Sy6m/) 118
I've been informed that the vacuum cleaner needs to get to work.
Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM Doing the sucking that failed Presidential candidates won't do? Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 03:49 PM (0sNs1) 119
Almost surely already covered, but I thought Fuji continues to make film. Possibly other manufacturers.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 03:49 PM (U/Byj) 120
90
I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay. Posted by: Piper ============= Yay indeed! What kind? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ) Bosch 800, black stainless. Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:50 PM (Wmg4n) 121
I bought one of the early digital cameras; a Sony Mavica. It took a 3.5 inch floppy disk. 1998.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 03:50 PM (jehhT) 122
I love stuff like that camera. It's even cooler if it works.
I love the little hinges and springs and buttons and all the nickel-plated hardware. Cute! Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 03:51 PM (FMtrg) 123
121 I bought one of the early digital cameras; a Sony Mavica. It took a 3.5 inch floppy disk. 1998.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 03:50 PM (jehhT) A floppy disk? That's one of those 3-D prints of a Save icon, right? Posted by: Kids these days at May 24, 2026 03:52 PM (n9eFH) 124
One can tell gobsmacking whoppers when viewing old and faded Polaroid photos with one's grandchildren. "Oh, that was a day when the Sun was especially bright and its light overexposed photos often. All the swells wore sunglasses all the time." "Now, that was a day with really heavy fog. Moms used to admonish us, 'Don't go outside without your galoshes, Dougie -- you know how slippery things get in this fog!"' Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (s9VOe) 125
It's gorgeous. Display it on a shelf.
Posted by: DinsdalePiranha at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (yFfLy) That would require dusting?!!!??? Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (6wpGE) Don't block access to the whiskey! Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (2WIwB) 126
After the Butlerian Jihad, digital cameras are outlawed and this camera will be cutting edge again.
Posted by: Goatweed at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (jK3NL) 127
Was freezing while it was drizzling. Now boiling. Backwoods Indiana, I love you.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (IifvS) Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at May 24, 2026 03:54 PM (2Ez/1) 129
Indy 500 going to go to a shoot out.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2026 03:56 PM (n5tGW) 130
Was going to fix my Krups coffee grinder (estimated age, 25 years+). Opened it up, only problem, as I thought, was some of the coating on the power wire had cracked, leading to a semi-break in the wire. Seems fairly easy to re-wire it using existing cord. Then I thought - well the cord is all old, it will likely crack again (just inside the housing, not where you can touch it).
So getting out the large pry bar to open up my wallet and spend the $25 for a new one. Utter defeat. Hoping the krauts' QC on small appliances remains near perfect. Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 03:56 PM (U/Byj) 131
>>>>every FWP presented so far in this series is hylic in nature.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (0sNs1) ***** And YES! I had to look that up. Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 24, 2026 03:56 PM (4BekB) 132
Our daughter took my Canon AE-1 and accessories off my hands. She has arteest friends who will put them to good use, and for that I an glad. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:57 PM (s9VOe) 133
113 I'd like, as one of the Troublesome Texans on this blog, to observe that every FWP presented so far in this series is hylic in nature.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (0sNs1) wut hylic adjective rare relating to matter; material. Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:58 PM (6wpGE) 134
> 'Don't go outside without your galoshes, Dougie -- you know how slippery things get in this fog!"'
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (s9VOe) Come out of the garden, baby You'll catch your death in the fog Young girl...they call them the diamond dogs Posted by: David Bowie at May 24, 2026 03:58 PM (IG3/x) 135
Guess I could buy new power cord with a plug and just attach the contacts, so another 25 years before that problem recurs.
So, humiliation, not just defeat. Easier to click the online store icon then fix it. Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 03:59 PM (U/Byj) Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:59 PM (8schn) 137
I carried an AE-1 and all the accessories and lenses and accoutrements (including, a fucking Tripod) on a backpack trip through Grand Teton NP. This was in addition to all the other stuff ordinarily carried in a backpack in the 1980s
Posted by: Common Tater ------ My backpacking days in the 70-80s were documented with a Rollie 35 and Kodachrome slides. I have some of the family there. We took the easy route - take the ski lift up, then walk down. 3 days. That's another "one of these days". Scanning two shoe boxes of slides. Posted by: buddhaha at May 24, 2026 04:00 PM (mSL0+) 138
The kids/grandkids came over earlier for our cookout. It's been pouring rain for a week and, of course it poured today.
I grilled in the garage. My truck smells wonderful. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 04:00 PM (jehhT) 139
I think this week I'm going to finally install the stove top I found on a jobsite 18 years ago. Upgrades to stuff that had already been installed. So new but roughly removed once.
The one in my trailer is really showing it's age. Vacuuming is done though. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 04:01 PM (594J6) 140
Wouldn't want to call you late for supper
FOOD NOOD Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:02 PM (Ia/+0) 141
It goes in a curio cabinet. Out of space in your curio cabinet? You buy another curio cabinet. At least this is the "solution" I've found for this sort of problem. For various definitions of the word "solution".
Basically, you're making a museum of you. Once you have enough curio cabinets you get tour guides, a concession stand, and headphones with oral history by voice actors to hand visitors, that sort of thing. I'm hoping to one day be able to have an amusement park section with a jungle themed logjam ride for weary visitors that need to cool off. Posted by: banana Dream at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (3uBP9) 142
Top pic looks very similar to the Kodak Brownie that I took on my first class trip. Went to the Crystal Caverns in PA. On the bus ride out, we passed the Union water sphere just off the Garden State Parkway. At the time it was billed as the world's largest water sphere, so by way of testing the camera and my Ansel Adams chops, I snapped a pic from the back of the bus. Saved the rest of the film for the amazing sights from the caverns.
Got the film back from the developer, and the water sphere shot was the only one that printed. Perfectly framed, and world's tallest at the time though, so I got that going for me... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (nbLIj) 143
For folks with old film cameras (raises my hand), film is still made for 35mm, 120 rolls for twin lens reflex, and 4x5 inch sheet film for old press cameras. The prices make me gasp when I think about what I paid thirty years ago but it is available. If I got back into film photography again I would revive my darkroom gear as well. Most film developing and printing is simple and procedural, not rocket science. I've seen some photos my grandfather took of my aunt in a high chair during WW I. He developed the film in their bath tub and printed with daylight exposure.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 04:04 PM (yTvNw) 144
142 Went to the Crystal Caverns in PA. On the bus ride out, we passed the Union water sphere just off the Garden State Parkway. At the time it was billed as the world's largest water sphere, so by way of testing the camera and my Ansel Adams chops, I snapped a pic from the back of the bus.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (nbLIj) Cool. I had to look up "water sphere," and then "Union water sphere." I think I would've called that a "water tower"; I guess it's one type of water tower? Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:09 PM (6wpGE) 145
81 I have a 100+ year old Leica 35mm camera. Ridiculously complicated.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (jehhT) heh Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:10 PM (6wpGE) 146
Cool. I had to look up "water sphere," and then "Union water sphere." I think I would've called that a "water tower"; I guess it's one type of water tower?
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:09 PM (6wpGE) Union, NJ was home to several of the best 24 hour diners in the world, but the town fathers chose to promote the water "sphere". Tells you everything you need to know about Union, NJ... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:13 PM (nbLIj) 147
What a finish.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (viF8m) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 04:22 PM (pRWl6) 149
146 Cool. I had to look up "water sphere," and then "Union water sphere." I think I would've called that a "water tower"; I guess it's one type of water tower?
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:09 PM (6wpGE) Union, NJ was home to several of the best 24 hour diners in the world, but the town fathers chose to promote the water "sphere". Tells you everything you need to know about Union, NJ... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:13 PM (nbLIj) ; ) Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (6wpGE) 150
Really fun race, glad they didn't finish under yellow.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (n5tGW) 151
2 Isn't that the same miniature camera model OSS used to take photos of NAZI war plans?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (/lPRQ) Smuggled in your rectum. Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:02 PM (LHPAg) 152
Air drop it into a LA forest fire?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 24, 2026 05:35 PM (cWLG3) 153
My 29 year old eyes suggest that is a 1947 or 48 Polaroid Land Camera Model 95. You're not going to use it again unless you hire someone to alter it's guts and make it more conduscent to modern film. That one has no replacement film options.
Were it me, I'd find a nice antique table that catches the eye on its own, center the camera in the middle and surround it with very old photos of relatives including its original owner. Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (dIske) Might be able to alter the back to accept 120 roll film. If they still make that... Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 05:48 PM (8zz6B) 154
It belongs in a museum!
Donate it to the Smithsonian and take the tax break. Maybe they will create any educational display on the history of photography showing the quality of photographic resolution and how it has improved over the years. Posted by: John at May 24, 2026 06:12 PM (0DsdP) 155
You should have bought a Kodak.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (D1E+2) 156
I sold a Polaroid instant camera on eBay for a couple hundred dollars.
Posted by: Bob at May 24, 2026 07:24 PM (cNhbl) 157
...And then, there's the bleeding edge.
Was down on South Padre Island for the SpaceX launch, and while we were loafing in chairs drinking beer and waiting for the Big Show, some dude walked by sporting one of the new Hasselblad XD II cameras. 100MP beast! I almost dropped my beer. Posted by: Brewingfrog at May 24, 2026 07:50 PM (75oA2) 158
Sold mine at a yard sale, but it was not Grandads, I think I got it from my Dad but it was not a camera he used ever as far as I remember. Did keep his Rollie and my brother got his Leicas, older models that were not in reality very good compared to newer film models.
Just checked the spelling of Rollie by typing it in Duck Duck Go and an add for my Dad's Rollie came up for sale at $700. Did not think they were worth that much anymore. Sold a Bunch of the cameras I have been collecting over the years at the yard sale, did keep the Rollie, and a few 35mm Minoltas I still have lenses for. Posted by: fred4d at May 24, 2026 09:29 PM (f+9hS) 159
Last time I used a camera like that (in the '70s...a Brownie of some sort), I think the film was known as 120 (for 12 pics), and 220 (for 24 pics). I could be wrong.
You know what? Count on it. Posted by: look whats not at May 24, 2026 10:22 PM (nakGR) Posted by: AppleBetty at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (2YybP) The All-Encompassing Naïveté of The True BelieversNicholas Kristof is entirely unimportant. His laughable article claiming that Israel uses trained dogs to sexually assault Palestinian prisoners is clownish and will disappear without a trace, except for a small group of rabid Jew-haters who will dredge it up occasionally, even though it has been thoroughly debunked. He is a reliable leftist who has spent his entire professional life cultivating an air of moral superiority, coupled with the arrogance to claim that he is in fact detached...merely an observer of the human condition. He is unimportant because there are thousands of people exactly like him who produce a fungible product for their media masters. One ardent progressive's article about [fill in the blank] is functionally and stylistically identical to the next. Whether it is Palestine or Global Warming or EVs or clean water or racism in American policing; the stories are all the same blend of pseudo-intellectual rigor combined with hyper-emotional rhetoric designed to do one thing...sway the reader toward the progressive cant. And they reek of that moral superiority and smugness that is so, so grating to the observant consumer. But it is mostly honest and heartfelt. Sure, some of these progressive drones pumping out identical articles about X or Y or Z are in it for the influence they believe they can exert on the body politic to sway them, and their manipulation of reality is entirely intentional. But Kristof is almost certainly an earnest and honest reporter. That he is an ignorant fool without any understanding of the human condition is secondary to his feeling that his reporting is absolutely correct on his elevated moral plane, even if that pesky thing called "fact-checking" is conspicuously absent. Is he an anti-semite? Maybe? But he is certainly a fool. No...the blame for that ridiculous but politically expedient article lies with the senior management of the New York Times, who knew quite well that the article was mostly nonsense...but published it anyway! And why? Because they have a carefully constructed and longstanding policy of antagonism toward Israel and traditional Judaism. They also have a curated list of other causes that they support, including socialism. And that goes back a very long way. The editors of the New York Times were aware of Stalin's systematic starvation and murder of millions of Ukrainians in 1932-1933, yet they chose to ignore it because it guaranteed them access to Soviet leadership, and it furthered the cause of world socialism. Walter Duranty, the correspondent, was a useful idiot in the process. So the next time the NYT or the WaPo or any number of reliably leftist rags and media outlets publishes such a rank and obvious propaganda piece; don't blame the writer or talking head. He may very well be complicit, but it is also likely that he is an ignorant, poorly educated, insular knucklehead who simply doesn't know enough to have an educated opinion on anything other than ketchup or mustard on a hot dog. Blame the media bosses who have a plan, and execute it very well.Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: just saying at May 24, 2026 11:51 AM (HglFn) 2
Morn' all
Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 11:51 AM (7tT0W) 3
The defining characteristic of a Progressive is sanctimony.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (NcvvS) Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (Ia/+0) 5
Because they have a carefully constructed and longstanding policy of antagonism toward Israel and traditional Judaism. They also have a curated list of other causes that they support, including socialism.
I think they support socialism to destroy faith as there can be no faith other than Big Govt. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 11:59 AM (/+uur) 6
Julius Streicher, publisher of you-know-who's Der Stürmer was hung at Nuremberg.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 12:00 PM (2Ez/1) 7
Not sure about that "honest reporter" part...
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 24, 2026 12:01 PM (XMwZJ) 8
To be clear.
The leftist 'blowback' to the dogrape article is not because Kristof unquestionably related laughably false propaganda that hurt both his and the NYT reputation (what little there is left). No, leftist blowback is because they think he wrote BADLY and didn't PROPERLY make the case for the fact that they all know DA JOOS are using dogs to rape those poor innocent Palestinians, why didn't Kristof do a better job of writing about 'the truth'! This is what leftists actually believe. Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 24, 2026 12:01 PM (setIA) 9
Hey, I have a PULITZER!
Posted by: Nick Kristof at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (u/oMr) 10
Read from a number of people who say from experts on dogs its impossible to teach them that. But no lie is out of the question to spread enough to believe.
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (Ia/+0) 11
Speaking of true believers - Fox Liberal Sunday had Hugh Hewit and a small dwindling host of GOPe true believers with the sadz...that Trump is a thug and he done done Cornyn dirty - it's a surety that now a lift-wing liberal whackadoo democrat will get elected in Texas and take Cornyn place! Oh my!
Yeah, no - because as Kristoff, has shown nothing is more pathetic than the foolish true believer. Posted by: Boswell at May 24, 2026 12:04 PM (j10i6) 12
9 Hey, I have a PULITZER!
Posted by: Nick Kristof at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (u/oMr) --- And WE have Nobel Peace Prizes! Posted by: Yasser Arafat and Barry Soetoro at May 24, 2026 12:04 PM (Ucgf4) 13
Endless blood libels.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 12:05 PM (8schn) 14
Good afternoon everyone
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 12:07 PM (Ia/+0) 15
11 Speaking of true believers - Fox Liberal Sunday had Hugh Hewit and a small dwindling host of GOPe true believers with the sadz...that Trump is a thug and he done done Cornyn dirty - it's a surety that now a lift-wing liberal whackadoo democrat will get elected in Texas and take Cornyn place! Oh my!
It would have been better if Trump hadn't weighed in on this race... Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 12:09 PM (7tT0W) 16
insular knucklehead who simply doesn't know enough to have an educated opinion on anything other than ketchup or mustard on a hot dog. Until that fateful sentence you were doing fine CBD, but- that you even considered the application of ketchup to a hot dog to be a valid position means that you too are an insular knucklehead and a tool of Big Ketchup! Terrible stirred Manhattans have addled your brain. Good day, sir! Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 12:10 PM (iJfKG) 17
How many print reporters and especially print columnists and editors are failed or wanna-be novelists, playwrights, or screen writers? This could be fascinating to know.
Posted by: Gref at May 24, 2026 12:11 PM (5rh/l) 18
Kristoff is either stupid or an antisemite. It’s quite possible he’s both. Stupid is believes what he wrote; antisemite if he’s knows it’s obvious BS but went ahead anyway
His bosses are bad people; so is he Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 12:11 PM (26GAh) 19
The NYT just published a lengthy response to "our questions" about Kristof's column. Think they owned up to their mistakes? Quite the opposite.
Here are just SOME of the ways this response by Kristof and @katiekings is disgusting. And yes, they double down on the dog rape https://tinyurl.com/4apmycbj Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:11 PM (ndZc7) 20
what naturalfake said about ketchup. yuch
Posted by: TALACHULITNA at May 24, 2026 12:12 PM (FWYVY) Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 12:12 PM (594J6) 22
Its Marxism Propaganda, nothing else to spread
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 12:13 PM (Ia/+0) 23
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I put ketchup on hotdogs: but when I became a man, I put mustard on hotdogs — Long lost version of I Corinthians 13
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 12:14 PM (26GAh) 24
How can someone as spectacularly stupid, or foolish, get such a prominent platform? Does he have a gift for saying stupid things well?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2026 12:15 PM (wBzSI) 25
Cry Churban! and let slip the rape dogs of war!
Posted by: Temu Shakespeare at May 24, 2026 12:15 PM (J4Dwc) 26
The defining characteristic of a Progressive is sanctimony.
Posted by: Nazdar ------- True. Let's put it into words: "Sanctimony refers to a self-righteousness or assumed moral superiority that often involves judging others harshly" Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:16 PM (XeU6L) 27
I don't believe Kristof is honest.
Every aware person knows that Palestinians exaggerate their casualties and stage their victimhood, so even if there are real victims among them their claims need to be treated with caution. Kristof cannot be so naive, otherwise he would never have made it as a reporter, back in the day. Posted by: PG at May 24, 2026 12:17 PM (Q4aSA) 28
I had a Golden Lab that would “rape” your leg sometimes. He wasn’t trained to do that nor was he an anti-Semite.
Posted by: JROD at May 24, 2026 12:17 PM (5LUfU) 29
Rumors of what a peace deal might look like.
Patrick Bet-David @patrickbetdavid There is a lot of noise surrounding the potential US/Iran deal. Here’s what the rumors are so far: - Iran has agreed to give up its stockpile of highly enriched uranium. Iran currently has 400 kg of highly enriched uranium. Enough for 11 nuclear bombs. - The US would begin a phased unfreezing of Iran’s $6b to $30b in cash. - The Strait of Hormuz will open up.- Iran won’t charge a penny for ships to pass through. No $2m toll fee. - The US agrees to relieve some of the sanctions. - War ENDS on all fronts with Lebanon. - US forces near Iran to withdraw. - 30 to 60 days to finalize the nuclear deal. If true, that’s a massive victory for the President. Here are the winners and losers. (Continued at link) https://tinyurl.com/43mwhj62 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (ndZc7) 30
*I don't believe Kristof is honest.*
+++ Hey, but he got your mouse click and page view. That's all that counts. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (2Ez/1) 31
How can someone as spectacularly stupid, or foolish, get such a prominent platform? Does he have a gift for saying stupid things well?
Posted by: Northernlurker -------- Consider Kamala Harris...or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (XeU6L) 32
Morning, CBD and Horde folks.
Taking a cool water break after replacing three deck boards in the roof. Next step: tar paper. About three sheets of that, and we are done for the day. Tomorrow morning, shingles, and the job is done. Working 7 AM to 10 AM, before it gets too hot up there. Part of the time, the tall palm tree throws some shade right where it is needed most. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (8zz6B) 33
Fox Liberal Sunday had Hugh Hewit and a small dwindling host of GOPe true believers with the sadz...
Can't stand that guy...his voice is enough to make me shoot my radio. He is a lover of George Will and probably washes George's bow ties for him among other things. Posted by: The 80's Called And They Want Hugh Back at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (OoF9t) 34
Here are the winners and losers.
The losers are the Iranian resistance who will continue to be executed Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 12:20 PM (7tT0W) 35
Is there a newspaper remaining that ISN'T leftist crapola? Can't think of one, certainly not in any city. The New York Daily Noooz still has its moments but they are rare. The Times, WaPo, Trib, etc., aren't worth glancing at at the store let alone spending money for. I used to get a Sunday Post once in a while just to have something when cleaning fish or potting up house plants. Can't bring myself to do that anymore. Bought a roll of news print paper for those chores. And I can use it for practice sketching as well.
I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously. Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (yTvNw) 36
I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously. Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (yTvNw) Me too.... Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (7tT0W) 37
I believe printing the Kristof libel on the day before the Israeli report about 10/7 was released was not coincidence.
Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:23 PM (RCjYY) 38
I first time I ever heard of Hugh Hewitt he was on PBS in California. You cannot get any more RINO than that….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 12:23 PM (26GAh) Posted by: Walter Duranty at May 24, 2026 12:24 PM (XeU6L) 40
28 I had a Golden Lab that would “rape” your leg sometimes. He wasn’t trained to do that nor was he an anti-Semite.
Posted by: JROD at May 24, 2026 12:17 PM (5LUfU) Hes got a little Mississippi leg hound in him Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 12:24 PM (/+uur) 41
I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (yTvNw) It is amazing that even 51%+ Fox articles have at least 1 PDT ding even about positive news. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 12:25 PM (/+uur) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 12:25 PM (Cqx++) 43
National Anthem at INDY
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 12:26 PM (/+uur) 44
Fox Liberal Sunday had Hugh Hewit and a small dwindling host of GOPe true believers with the sadz...
Can't stand that guy...his voice is enough to make me shoot my radio. He is a lover of George Will and probably washes George's bow ties for him among other things. Posted by: The 80's Called And They Want Hugh Back at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (OoF9t) I can still tolerate Hewitt in small doses. He shared my opinion of John McCain during that fateful primary. He also was an early critic of the GOP open border policy. Lastly, he opposed the Harriet Mier Supreme Court nomination, wherein we got Justice Alito eventually. Not a bad record for a RINO... Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 12:27 PM (nbLIj) 45
About three sheets of that, and we are done for the day. Tomorrow morning, shingles, and the job is done. Working 7 AM to 10 AM, before it gets too hot up there. Part of the time, the tall palm tree throws some shade right where it is needed most.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ------ Oh, when the sun beats down and burns the tar up on the roof And your shoes get so hot, you wish your tired feet were fireproof... Posted by: The Drifters at May 24, 2026 12:27 PM (XeU6L) Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (RCjYY) 47
The Left pushes ideas that have to be disproven to their standards. Until then, what they say is true and even if they agree that an idea is disproven, the idea is not a lie or false, merely forgotten.
Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (dwe6n) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (Cqx++) 49
I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.
—— You answered your own question. The people are the Media now. And the long established former monopolists don’t like that one bit. Communication is key. It used to be if something wasn’t reported, it didn’t happen. That was rather the idea, actually. So everyone was kept isolated and in the dark. Today, if something happens in Portland or Atlanta or St. Paul, we can find out in real time. And compare notes. Name names. And the same ones sure do pop up a lot. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 12:29 PM (FaOSD) 50
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RE: FOX News I've been noticing that too. It's a recent development. Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (RCjYY) Lachlan & Sarah Murdoch Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 12:32 PM (TqDYN) 51
This sort of thing has been going on at least since John Reed was sucking Lenin's testicles in print. Lately, a majority of these anti-Joo and anti-Trump internet articles are produced as fodder for news aggregators. No single article is meant to be convincing, but when there are 30-40 articles are churned out on the intertubes saying that the Joos are bad, the idea is to plant the seed in people's minds that where there's smoke, there must be fire. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 24, 2026 12:33 PM (y9nCu) 52
RE: FOX News I've been noticing that too. It's a recent development. Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (RCjYY) Trump put all the patriotic Fox celebs in his Administration... .... Just kidding... But maybe not Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 12:34 PM (7tT0W) 53
The losers are the Iranian resistance who will continue to be executed
Posted by: It's me donna Yup. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:35 PM (ndZc7) 54
I believe printing the Kristof libel on the day before the Israeli report about 10/7 was released was not coincidence.
Absolutely. It was an op. After centuries, you'd think they'd run out of blood libels to invent, but Jewish rape dogs is definitely a new one. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 24, 2026 12:35 PM (cJ3h6) 55
The Israelis also make matzoh ball soup with the blood of Palestinian children.
Posted by: It's Good, But A Little Too Salty at May 24, 2026 12:36 PM (oftw2) 56
Arsenal is 20 minutes from the title
Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:37 PM (1ZN8d) 57
CBD showing off his privilege with the fancy umlaut and doo-dads on the naivete headline. Privilege he purchased in Tel Aviv.
Posted by: With Shekels To Spare at May 24, 2026 12:39 PM (oftw2) 58
They certainly don't make money at it.
Posted by: DaveA at May 24, 2026 12:40 PM (FhXTo) 59
If we weren’t putting Marines in Iran, there was no way dissidents would survive.
Biggest error of the war was the assumption that the regime would fall. Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:40 PM (1ZN8d) 60
Kristof was so arrogant that he ran for governor of Oregon in 2022, despite there being a three-year residency requirement to run for governor.
Kristof claimed that he had moved to Oregon three years prior, but he kept voting in New York elections. Kristof and his attorneys said that he "grew up in the state" and "owns a farm there". Translation: he's a member of the Media Elite, and shouldn't be bound by the rules that should only apply to the peasantry. The Oregon supreme court did not find Kristof's argument to be pervasive. Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 24, 2026 12:43 PM (cJ3h6) 61
And they reek of that moral superiority and smugness that is so, so grating to the observant consumer.
So...like HOA presidents. Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 12:43 PM (2WIwB) 62
The comedy potential of a swarm of ankle humping chihuahuas chasing some Hamastani down the street is huge. Cue yakity-sax
Posted by: DaveA at May 24, 2026 12:44 PM (FhXTo) 63
You're denying Kristof's agency. He had to know his dog rapes man story is false and wrong. Had to.
Kristof and useful idiots like him can force themselves to believe, like Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984, that O'Brien is holding up five fingers, not four, even though the actual truth in front of his face is four. Winston had the excuse that he was being horribly tortured and so willed himself to believe to make the torture stop. Kristof has no excuse. He buys the lie willingly. That's a moral choice, which makes Kristof culpable. Posted by: troyriser at May 24, 2026 12:44 PM (v1M8F) 64
I hope, and assume, that Trump will keep all the military forces near Iran in place. The emerging deal is a truce, not a peace treaty.
I don't think the world believes that. But I bet Trump understands it. Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:44 PM (RCjYY) 65
I am an HOA president, bub
Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:45 PM (1ZN8d) 66
Biggest error of the war was the assumption that the regime would fall.
——- We’re all just on the outside looking in, with incomplete or inaccurate intelligence. There’s no telling what they “assumed” and unfortunately, sometimes action must be taken without any guarantees of success. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 12:46 PM (FaOSD) 67
X is divided over whether Trump's 'deal' is a masterstroke of statecraft or a blunder of epic proportion.
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 12:47 PM (ZxPkt) 68
I am an HOA president, bub
Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:45 PM (1ZN8d) Ha. I was too, years ago. No more. We actually. have a good one here. He's a police captain. A good man and neighbor. Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 12:48 PM (2WIwB) 69
Considering how much Pahlavi was on TV, it is not an egregious conclusion. I stopped watching Tousi early on and saw why the ette’s might continue. My overall expectations for the war were not close.
Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:48 PM (1ZN8d) 70
If the mullahs and the IRGC left in charge it's a failure.
Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 12:49 PM (594J6) 71
I'm not sure who "assumed the regime would fall." Israel certainly did not. I don't recall reading anything reflecting that "assumption," as opposed to "one possible outcome among several."
Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:49 PM (RCjYY) 72
>>X is divided over whether Trump's 'deal' is a masterstroke of statecraft or a blunder of epic proportion.
Imagine how heated it will be once the details are released and people can actually see what the deal contains! Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (viF8m) 73
Biggest error of the war was the assumption that the regime would fall.
——- Back during the Gulf War, I thought we'd be welcomed as heroes because it is the natural state of man to yearn to be free. I guess for a substantial portion of men, they enjoy their chains. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (ndZc7) 74
It's absolutely true. IDF referred to it as 'Operation Red Rocket.'
Posted by: Nicholas Kristof at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (J4Dwc) 75
I was an HOA president too.
Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:51 PM (RCjYY) Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:53 PM (RCjYY) 77
https://tinyurl.com/43mwhj62
A tweet about rumors? Really? I invoke the 48 hour rule on any reports of "deals" with Iran and its regime. Maybe the details laid out in the tweet are true, and maybe they aren't. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 12:54 PM (GjEvj) 78
...don't blame the writer or talking head. He may very well be complicit, but it is also likely that he is an ignorant, poorly educated, insular knucklehead who simply doesn't know enough to have an educated opinion on anything...
For years Mrs D.worked in the Communications Division of a large NW-based Defense and Aviation company (that will remain anonymous). In her job she worked daily with former media talking heads who had been hired to be part of the face of the company, and who would help craft their message. Some days she'd come home shaking her head at the absolute stupidity of these people. I met a couple. She wasn't wrong. Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 12:54 PM (2WIwB) 79
I was selected because I am a carpenter. My mother and I are also one of the few full time residents.
She told me what was afoot and that I should agree. Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:54 PM (1ZN8d) 80
"Hey, but he got your mouse click and page view.
That's all that counts." I haven't looked at the New York Times in many years. Posted by: PG at May 24, 2026 12:55 PM (Q4aSA) 81
Yeah, looks like our pedo president is surrendering to Iran. He'd do anything to get out of his self-inflicted mess about now. He'd cannot remain in office.
Posted by: Sid at May 24, 2026 12:58 PM (+WQwn) 82
Whether Trump expected the regime to fall or merely hoped, is something we might learn later.
My interpretation of events was that collapse was plan A. If Iran had not decided to blockade the Straight or attacked their neighbors, what would we have done? Many things to haggle about. Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:59 PM (1ZN8d) 83
Trump described the document in question as a "memorandum of understanding." That's quite preliminary. The Arab states in the region, plus Turkey, are involved. Pakistan is acting as an intermediary. I don't think Iraq was mentioned. Maybe it was and I missed it. It appears that the Iranian people are not going to overthrow their government. Except for Iraq, these are all Sunni-majority countries, and Iran is Shia. These countries are not friends of Iran. And Turkey sees Iran very much as a rival. I don't know if this is brilliant diplomacy, or a fatal error in progress. I have no idea. I don't know if it is anticipated that Iran will violate any agreement and resumption of military strikes is anticipated. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (azNOR) 84
deal? there's a "deal"?
"A tweet about rumors? Really? I invoke the 48 hour rule on any reports of "deals" with Iran and its regime. Maybe the details laid out in the tweet are true, and maybe they aren't. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 12:54 PM (GjEvj)" affirm. 48, maybe even 96 or 168 Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (VyBeY) 85
Gunshots Heard meme is alive on X
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (/+uur) 86
I've already got my schtick to get half of the HOA residents to vote for me when I move into my moms place.
Driveway snow removal for the North facing houses. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (594J6) 87
Back during the Gulf War, I thought we'd be welcomed as heroes because it is the natural state of man to yearn to be free. I guess for a substantial portion of men, they enjoy their chains.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (ndZc7) By the third day of the ground war, we were heavy into planning on jumping the HQs deep into Iraq. (I was at the VII Corps HQs) The boss knew I had a background in middle east studies and he asked me about it. I told him we could easily beat the 1940 British record of getting from Basrah to Baghdad (30 days) but not to expect flag waving cheering crowds. We would not be seen as liberators. Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (2WIwB) 88
> X is divided over whether Trump's 'deal' is a masterstroke of statecraft or a blunder of epic proportion.
Imagine how heated it will be once the details are released and people can actually see what the deal contains! ----------- There's already disagreement on two purported US demands; opening Hormuz completely and forking over their Uranium stockpile. Two demands, IMO that are not negotiable. I can't fathom a "deal" without either of those demands being met. All of the other stuff? I'm sure it will be debated ad nauseum online and on the tube. Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 01:01 PM (jehhT) 89
I was a member of our Property Owners Association Commision for three years. We did a good job, but the last 10 years or so the commission has been populated by younger people who have a 'vision'. God spare us from those who have a 'vision'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:01 PM (XeU6L) 90
If the mullahs and the IRGC left in charge it's a failure. Posted by: Reforger =============== I thought we knew early on that that couldn't happen without a long, bloody ground war. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:02 PM (n7rxJ) 91
"I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (yTvNw)" same Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 01:02 PM (VyBeY) 92
From Powerline, its Bob Dylan's 85th Birthday today
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:03 PM (Ia/+0) 93
81 is worse than Raimondo is/was. That's difficult to achieve.
Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 01:04 PM (RCjYY) 94
Hmm. I guess Sid is home from Church.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:04 PM (XeU6L) 95
No nick kristof tried to put stephen hatfill in jail allowijg the real anthrax bomber to get away
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:05 PM (bXbFr) 96
From Powerline, its Bob Dylan's 85th Birthday today
Posted by: Skip ------ "I can't see my reflection in the waters I can't speak the sounds that show no pain I can't hear the echo of my footsteps Or can't remember the sound of my own name..." Two things Robert; Hearing aids, glasses Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:07 PM (XeU6L) 97
It’s gonna be trailer-trash Ghoulash today. We’ll add some heat, a can of chipotle in adobo sauce, for a variation.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 01:07 PM (b9poi) 98
He was an arabist with a nazi father who the times sent to beijing and moscow as a lark
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:08 PM (bXbFr) 99
"I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.
Posted by: JTB " We strive for excellence. Posted by: Penguin Facts at May 24, 2026 01:12 PM (vFG9F) 100
For some reason I thought Bob Dylan was dead.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:12 PM (IifvS) 101
Is there a newspaper remaining that ISN'T leftist crapola?
The Epoch Times: https://www.theepochtimes.com/ Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 24, 2026 01:13 PM (Qp8q1) 102
Lil Marco
"The IDEA that somehow this president, given everything he's already proven he's willing to do, is going to somehow agree to a deal that ultimately winds up putting Iran in a STRONGER position when it comes to nuclear ambitions is ABSURD!" "That's just NOT going to happen." Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 01:14 PM (/+uur) 103
No that was jerry garcia
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:14 PM (bXbFr) 104
Kristoff's kink is being a zoophile and getting yiffed by a dog.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (NyLLn) 105
3.38 per gallon in southern Indiana.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (IifvS) 106
And the dog is an Alsatian named Bruno.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (NyLLn) Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (vTZFs) 108
Anyone eeen the deal yet
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:16 PM (bXbFr) 109
Flipped through the news stations
Shrodinger's Peace Deal is undead. Apparently the last remaining, tiniest and most minor obstacle will be Iran's nuclear ambitions so this may be done by Tuesday! MS NOW had a clip of Rubio....who IS amazing, saying there was a framework for a deal. I'm glass empty today so I think that's code for 'There's a framework to form the Committee that will form the rules that a newly formed Committee will then approve to initiate the working group to study the true possibilty of a Peace Deal." Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 01:16 PM (Sco7b) Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:17 PM (NyLLn) 111
... and a willing multitude of readers who, like Mulder, "want to believe".
Socialism is all their favorite fictional universe, unique in fiction in that there are places where you can go and experience the reality right now. If they were all just gibbering chuckleheads cosplaying their imagination in private it would be one thing, but they are actively trying to subject the real world to the horrors of their fantasy. Posted by: banana Dream - tying things in to the book thread boss at May 24, 2026 01:17 PM (3uBP9) 112
Is he the worse Times chimp thats a tough call theres always michelle goldberg
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:18 PM (bXbFr) 113
Anyone eeen the deal yet
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:16 PM (bXbFr) No, but i am absolutely convinced we are giving Iran nukes and 5 aircraft carriers and f-22s and Ivanka. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:18 PM (IifvS) 114
Gas been in $4.60s here for weeks
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (Ia/+0) 115
"He is a reliable leftist who has spent his entire professional life cultivating an air of moral superiority, coupled with the arrogance to claim that he is in fact detached...merely an observer of the human condition."
Well tell JAFO* then to sit down, shut up, and just observe, because that's about all he's good for. * Acronym used in the movie "Blue Thunder", 1983 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (O7YUW) 116
That was sarcasm.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (IifvS) 117
Chris hedges used to be the worse but he thought the Times wasnt crazy enough
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (bXbFr) Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (NyLLn) 119
Before there can be a deal, they need to decide on carpeting and the shape of the conference table
then comes the headache of choosing a coffeemaker and microwave Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:20 PM (ZxPkt) 120
Gas been in $4.60s here for weeks
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (Ia/+0) Seems to be that one truck stop. Next sign i saw 3.85. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:20 PM (IifvS) 121
I thought it was zany mad cap humor
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:20 PM (bXbFr) 122
"News from the peace tslks today. Negotiators have agreed on the height of the flag poles at the building where the talks will take place."
~ P.A. announcer at MASH 4077 compound Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 01:20 PM (2Ez/1) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:21 PM (XeU6L) 124
Sorry...morbid humor.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:21 PM (XeU6L) He Wilbury the others. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 01:22 PM (594J6) 125
Biggest error of the war was the assumption that the regime would fall.
——- Back during the Gulf War, I thought we'd be welcomed as heroes because it is the natural state of man to yearn to be free. I guess for a substantial portion of men, they enjoy their chains. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (ndZc7) To mix topics, Trump is screwing the pooch if reports can be believed. I find it hard to believe that Trump would do deal with Iran because any deal is worthless without regime change. The very notion is idiotic; I pray that’s not what he’s doing but all indications are that he is. Never shoulda stopped bombing… Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 01:22 PM (Jehr5) 126
'There's a framework to form the Committee that will form the rules that a newly formed Committee will then approve to initiate the working group to study the true possibilty of a Peace Deal." Posted by: Stateless ================ And what happens in the meantime? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:22 PM (n7rxJ) 127
114 Gas been in $4.60s here for weeks
Posted by: Skip $4.58 ten minutes ago. It's coming back down, again! Ha. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 24, 2026 01:22 PM (NFX2v) 128
Lil Marco "The IDEA that somehow this president, given everything he's already proven he's willing to do, is going to somehow agree to a deal that ultimately winds up putting Iran in a STRONGER position when it comes to nuclear ambitions is ABSURD!" "That's just NOT going to happen." Posted by: r hennigantx =============== That's the thing. I have faith in Trump's appointees. I think Marco would sooner resign than leave that situation worse than we found it. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:23 PM (n7rxJ) 129
$3.90 - $4.10 here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:24 PM (XeU6L) 130
Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:25 PM (NyLLn) 131
That's the thing. I have faith in Trump's appointees. I think Marco would sooner resign than leave that situation worse than we found it. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:23 PM (n7rxJ) I hope you're right... I find it hard to believe Trump would do otherwise ... Iran has a 53 million dollar bounty on Trump's head and a bounty on Ivanka... Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 01:26 PM (7tT0W) 132
Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma --------- Still dead. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:27 PM (XeU6L) 133
On Google maps, find a Wawa on it and hit that location, will tell gas price on it
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:27 PM (Ia/+0) 134
130 Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:25 PM (NyLLn) Still dead.. Thought he was Jesus... Doubt he will be doing any rising... Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 01:27 PM (7tT0W) 135
I see that John McCain's son has died at 66. How dare he interrupt his father's funeral!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 01:27 PM (qx7Zg) Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 01:28 PM (vTZFs) 137
Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:25 PM (NyLLn) Waiting to see if he rises again. Call me doubting Thomas if you want. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:29 PM (IifvS) 138
Kristof isn't a reliable leftist he is a provocateur. Jail is the least punishment he deserves.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 01:30 PM (pRWl6) 139
Disgusting people.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 01:30 PM (pRWl6) 140
He's dead, Jim. Posted by: Obligatory at May 24, 2026 01:31 PM (2Ez/1) 141
Prognosis is, he won't recover? What a shame.
*plays tiny ukulele* Was Brian Williams at the shooting by chance? Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:31 PM (NyLLn) 142
Sitting right here, boss.
Posted by: Gas Buddy at May 24, 2026 01:32 PM (2Ez/1) Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:34 PM (ZxPkt) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 01:34 PM (VyBeY) 145
130 Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma Still dead, formerly as Mad as a Hatter, kept returning like a bad penny. --- UK Guardian In part, He was involuntarily committed on 26 June in 2025 for “obstructing vehicle entry” to part of the White House complex, the court documents said, and on 10 July of that year he was arrested for unlawful entry after multiple officers confronted him for ignoring warning signs and walking into a restricted area outside the White House. (Nasire) Best claimed to be Jesus and said “that he wanted to get arrested”, according to the filing. A judge issued a “stay away order”, a measure ordering a defendant not to go physically near a person or area before a trial, at an initial hearing that day, barring Best from the White House area. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 24, 2026 01:34 PM (NFX2v) Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 01:34 PM (RCjYY) 147
>>X is divided over whether Trump's 'deal' is a masterstroke of statecraft or a blunder of epic proportion.
Imagine how heated it will be once the details are released and people can actually see what the deal contains! Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (viF8m) Yes, that will be helpful. The current pattern of Trump's "trust me, bro, the deal is almost done" for a month or more immediately followed by Iran's demand for our total capitulation hasn't done his credibility any good. Maybe *this* time there's something resembling a deal in play, but all the other times there clearly wasn't, since we're *still* waiting for it. Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 01:35 PM (vSvIl) 148
Skeptic, but its not 3 days yet
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:35 PM (Ia/+0) 149
If the mullahs and the IRGC left in charge it's a failure.
Posted by: Reforger =============== I thought we knew early on that that couldn't happen without a long, bloody ground war. Posted by: Blonde Morticia Trump said from the beginning his goal was to remove the nukes. If he can do that, he's won. We were hoping for more but at what cost? Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 01:36 PM (ndZc7) 150
Oh, when the sun beats down and burns the tar up on the roof
And your shoes get so hot, you wish your tired feet were fireproof... Posted by: The Drifters at May 24, 2026 12:27 PM (XeU6L) It was my knees and butt that was getting hot. Down off the roof at 10:25 AM. Done for day. Tarpaper is all stapled down. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 01:37 PM (8zz6B) 151
>>> Houston Attorney Charged with Felony Bestiality After Wife Catches Him RAPING the Family Dog on Hidden Surveillance Camera
They prefer to be called "Pet Lovers". Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 01:39 PM (/lPRQ) 152
(Nasire) Best claimed to be Jesus and said “that he wanted to get arrested”, according to the filing. A judge issued a “stay away order”, a measure ordering a defendant not to go physically near a person or area before a trial, at an initial hearing that day, barring Best from the White House area.
Yeah, that oughta do it. Posted by: Idiot judge at May 24, 2026 01:39 PM (Riz8t) 153
Speaking of spooks has anyone seen the questionable mask on the supposed general speaking on Fox News? It looks like a mask to me.
Here's the show clip: https://t.co/bbAQOdQQf6 Here's a close up: https://tinyurl.com/3xb6smdd Here's CIA Chief of Disguise Jonna Mendez [we] created masks so realistic…that the ‘disguise’ was completely undetectable [by President GHW Bush and staff]. : https://tinyurl.com/399mcch6 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 01:39 PM (pRWl6) 154
The daily snooz is terrible the post is pretty good
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:39 PM (bXbFr) 155
>Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 01:37 PM (8zz6B)
---- dude what is the latest on independence we heard a judge threw out the petition Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:40 PM (ZxPkt) 156
Guess that Houston attorney thought the dog was asking for it after dropping the chalupa.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:41 PM (NyLLn) 157
@TousiTVOfficial
· 27m 🇺🇸 UPDATE: The U.S. no longer expect a deal announcement today Quote Square profile picture Tousi TV @TousiTVOfficial · 8h 🇺🇸 🇮🇷 IRAN DEAL: Islamic Republic is accusing the U.S. of creating obstacles as both sides have reached a deadlock over potential deal. Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far. Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:42 PM (ZxPkt) 158
$3.90 - $4.10 here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:24 PM (XeU6L) $4.29 to 4.59 here in AJ. And if you are so careless as to need to buy gas in Wikieup, it's $6.00. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 01:43 PM (8zz6B) 159
I'm slowly catching up on the Indy 500. It's already started but I'm watching pre-race stuff. Fox brings a mix bag. Some of it's interesting, some isn't. Glad I record it. I just FF through the meh parts. I do not give a crap about 'Gronk'. FF. The only female in the field, Katherine Legge, is doing the double today. Indy 500 and Coca-Cola 600. She has no chance of winning either but I do hope she finishes both races. Kyle Busch is on a lot of minds in the Racing world. Even F1. The guy had some impact.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 01:43 PM (sAmhv) 160
How many print reporters and especially print columnists and editors are failed or wanna-be novelists, playwrights, or screen writers? This could be fascinating to know.
Posted by: Gref at May 24, 2026 12:11 PM (5rh/l) So you're saying there's still a chance for me? Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 01:43 PM (1Ff7Z) 161
157 @TousiTVOfficial
· 27m 🇺🇸 UPDATE: The U.S. no longer expect a deal announcement today Quote Square profile picture Tousi TV @TousiTVOfficial · 8h 🇺🇸 🇮🇷 IRAN DEAL: Islamic Republic is accusing the U.S. of creating obstacles as both sides have reached a deadlock over potential deal. Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far. Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:42 PM (ZxPkt) Maybe Trump needs to take out a bridge or two to get their attention..... Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 01:45 PM (7tT0W) 162
UPDATE: The U.S. no longer expect a deal announcement today
- You'll just have to imagine my shocked face. Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 01:45 PM (vSvIl) 163
You know its always going to be some kind of problem with Iran
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:45 PM (Ia/+0) 164
I try to be evenhanded and objective, while the left in recent years has rejected the concept out of hand.
They Are Always Right, and that’s all there is to it. The amazing self-licking ice cream cone. Now we do tend to congregate where viewpoints coincide with our own. The news that is reported, “official” news or not is largely the same, although their opinions are certainly different. I spent a lot of time in the 90s and early 2000s on a college run bulletin board and learned leftist dogma and thought patterns. They are not quite ready for prime time. Their schtick works on children, however not too well on sentient educated adults. It is good to engage, although they won’t allow reasoned debate using facts or logic. They are at the “shoot the fuckers” stage, as we are all aware. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 01:46 PM (/dDE1) Posted by: The ghost of Dennis Miller at May 24, 2026 01:46 PM (2Ez/1) 166
dude what is the latest on independence
we heard a judge threw out the petition Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:40 PM (ZxPkt) Every time they throw a monkey wrench into any legal means of separation, they just piss off more people, and bring us closer to a unilateral declaration of independence. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 01:46 PM (8zz6B) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 01:46 PM (ndZc7) 168
If there was a deal today it would be broken by tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:48 PM (Ia/+0) 169
🇺🇸 UPDATE: The U.S. no longer expect a deal announcement today Quote Square profile picture Tousi TV @TousiTVOfficial · 8h 🇺🇸 🇮🇷 IRAN DEAL: Islamic Republic is accusing the U.S. of creating obstacles as both sides have reached a deadlock over potential deal. Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far. Posted by: Don Black ================ Good. No deal is better than a bad deal. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:48 PM (n7rxJ) 170
Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far.
1) We actually expect the Iranians to abide by the agreement. 2) Trump won't be sending any planes loaded with pallets of cash. Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 01:48 PM (Riz8t) 171
$4.29 to 4.59 here in AJ. And if you are so careless as to need to buy gas in Wikieup, it's $6.00.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ---- I need maybe 5 gal. of non-ethanol gasoline for the yard implements. I expect that it's going to run $5+ /gal. Maybe $6. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:49 PM (XeU6L) 172
170 Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far.
1) We actually expect the Iranians to abide by the agreement. 2) Trump won't be sending any planes loaded with pallets of cash. Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 01:48 PM (Riz8 And who is Trump dealing with ? It can't be the IRGC.... Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 01:49 PM (7tT0W) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 01:50 PM (ndZc7) 174
And who is Trump dealing with ? It can't be the IRGC....
It's some guy named Irv, who mops the floors on Wednesday. He's the only one left above the dirt. Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 01:50 PM (Riz8t) 175
We stopped to use the restroom and I got an energy drink. And my Dad goes: 'oh I can get that.' I laughed and pointed out i can buy my own energy drinks.
I am 51. Love Dad. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:51 PM (IifvS) 176
Good. No deal is better than a bad deal. Posted by: Blonde Morticia -------- There is nothing inherently good about a compromise. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:51 PM (XeU6L) 177
Progressive bakery.
https://tinyurl.com/4s9n6ed3 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks ------- Perhaps Somali. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:52 PM (XeU6L) 178
Thanks CBD for this essay but I demur.
I would not minimize it or dismiss it based on the ridiculous lack of substance. Most joo hate is also ridiculous. But the clear meaning was to blunt the impact of the latest report issued on sexual violence in the Oct. 7 attack, to invert it, and turn the violence once again back on its victims. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 01:52 PM (RIvkX) 179
There is nothing inherently good about a compromise.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. --------- Re-phrased, a compromise is not inherently good. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:54 PM (XeU6L) 180
@WhiteHouse
· 1h “The negotiations are proceeding in an orderly and constructive manner, and I have informed my representatives not to rush into a deal in that time is on our side… Both sides must take their time and get it right. There can be no mistakes!” - President Donald J. Trump Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:54 PM (ZxPkt) Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 24, 2026 01:55 PM (NFX2v) 182
Two lines holding Iran up
How much jysm toll per ship it will cost How fast can they get their nuke program going Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:56 PM (Ia/+0) 183
I would like to say I had a joo dog, and that dog didn't obey one single "sit" or "stay" let alone "rape!"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 01:58 PM (RIvkX) 184
The same New York Times that published Walter Duranty? The “Pulitzer Prize” winning apologist for Stalin’s Collective Farms and millions of starved out Kulaks? That New York Times?
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (/dDE1) 185
Here's the deal:
Trump says we aren't through until we have the uranium. Iran says they aren't giving up the uranium, In the meantime while Iran is pulling its pud Trump is manipulating power players of the world. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (pRWl6) 186
I would like to say I had a joo dog, and that dog didn't obey one single "sit" or "stay" let alone "rape!"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 01:58 PM (RIvkX) Which ones are the jew dogs? How do you tell? Circumcised? I guess the prisoners could tell us. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (IifvS) 187
We stopped to use the restroom and I got an energy drink. And my Dad goes: 'oh I can get that.' I laughed and pointed out i can buy my own energy drinks.
I am 51. Love Dad. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:51 PM (IifvS) ==== My FiL z"l would get so infuriated I did stop offering. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (RIvkX) 188
I'm usually asleep during the day so I miss out on these early threads. Good grief, this place attracts retarded daytime trolls. I mean, the overnight ones aren't much better but geez.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 02:01 PM (sAmhv) 189
Which ones are the jew dogs? How do you tell? Circumcised? I guess the prisoners could tell us.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (IifvS) ==== Can tell by the jaunty way they wear a kippah. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 02:01 PM (RIvkX) 190
Good old Walter Duranty. He participated in “Ritual Sodomy” degenerate orgies with Aleister Crowley. LOL
Sounds like a real class act. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 02:02 PM (/dDE1) 191
Houston Attorney Charged with Felony Bestiality After Wife Catches Him RAPING the Family Dog
Boy, that lawyer sure screwed the pooch. Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 02:02 PM (gKWVE) 192
Posted by: Paul at May 24, 2026 01:57 PM (1xQU5)
The last Republican was Ike in 1956. Democrats ever since then. Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at May 24, 2026 02:03 PM (OD5vY) 193
Everyone liked Ike.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:04 PM (IifvS) Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 02:05 PM (qx7Zg) 195
167 Dude, do you even bother to zip up?
https://tinyurl.com/2w6apb7j Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, --- Anti-family propaganda. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (pRWl6) 196
We are getting to the parts of Indiana where cell coverage is thinner.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (IifvS) 197
197 167 Dude, do you even bother to zip up?
https://tinyurl.com/2w6apb7j Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, --- Anti-family propaganda. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (pRWl6) How many of those are baby mommas? Posted by: Fair question these days at May 24, 2026 02:08 PM (TbWk/) 198
198 We are getting to the parts of Indiana where cell coverage is thinner.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (IifvS) That HAPPENS in America? You think the guy who likes horroe movies would know this. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:08 PM (Sco7b) 199
The biggest of all signs that this story is bullshit is that no self-respecting man is going to farm out raping bitches to a 3rd party. Self-respecting men are going to do their own raping, by golly. Even if it's nasty pali srunts that are the receptacles of such rape. They'll strap on a Trojan and get busy. There's no way I'm letting a dog do my fuckin for me and I'm not even a Hebe.
Posted by: Pendejo at May 24, 2026 02:09 PM (92ma5) 200
Thinner than what?
Posted by: I gotta ask at May 24, 2026 02:12 PM (2Ez/1) 201
We are getting to the parts of Indiana where cell coverage is thinner.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (IifvS) - Eat more fatty foods. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 02:13 PM (8schn) 202
No FWPs today?
Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 02:21 PM (lJ0H4) 203
Waiting for it
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:24 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 02:24 PM (n7rxJ) 205
By waiting for an expected FWP thread, we ACTUALLY complaining creating our own FWP becoming our own FWPs.
It's very artistic approach. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:27 PM (Sco7b) 206
I had a terrible day Friday
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:28 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 02:29 PM (lJ0H4) Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:29 PM (Sco7b) 209
But Kristof is almost certainly an earnest and honest reporter
He is not. He believes nothing of what he says. He staked him claim on anti-Trumpism and it is nothing other than self-righteous hubris that prevents him from recanting that position. Posted by: Halfhand at May 24, 2026 02:31 PM (IXblq) 210
him=his
Posted by: Halfhand at May 24, 2026 02:32 PM (IXblq) 211
Did irreparable harm to my truck
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:32 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 02:36 PM (lJ0H4) 213
213 Did irreparable harm to my truck
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 0 Ahh crap. Although if crap like that happens, I might gather ideas here.people have gone through all crap. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:36 PM (Sco7b) Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 02:37 PM (n7rxJ) 215
I always tried to close my tailgate, but didn't driving around building. Wrecked it and worse closed it. Don't think can open it now.
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:39 PM (Ia/+0) 216
Did irreparable harm to my truck
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:32 PM (Ia/+0) Are you Ok? Does your truck now fit in short parking spaces? Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 02:39 PM (qx7Zg) 217
3.38 per gallon in southern Indiana.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (IifvS) 4.52 in Central NJ. At Quickcheck. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 24, 2026 02:39 PM (5xuJ/) Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:40 PM (Sco7b) 219
Just tailgate took a terrible hit.
Just hoping truck lasts a year and half more Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:43 PM (Ia/+0) 220
3 The defining characteristic of a Progressive is sanctimony.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (NcvvS) Yes! It is. Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 02:44 PM (6wpGE) 221
I would like to say I had a joo dog, and that dog didn't obey one single "sit" or "stay" let alone "rape!"
Posted by: San Franpsycho Israel was accused of 'racism' because there is no recorded instance of one raping a Pali (despite large numbers the other way). So just maybe Israel tried to train dogs to do it for them. To make up for their shortcomings... Didn't work. Not even a dog will do a Pali. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:46 PM (/lPRQ) 222
>>>So the next time the NYT or the WaPo or any number of reliably leftist rags and media outlets publishes such a rank and obvious propaganda piece; don't blame the writer or talking head.
But ... Tucker Carlson? Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 02:47 PM (6wpGE) 223
Meanwhile, this new Green Card requirement has got X on fire. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 02:48 PM (n7rxJ) 224
I always tried to close my tailgate, but didn't driving around building. Wrecked it and worse closed it. Don't think can open it now.
Posted by: Skip Check out the used car lots. You can probably find the same make/model, even color. Stop back later at night and trade tail gates. /last I knew no tools required to remove Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:51 PM (/lPRQ) 225
That HAPPENS in America?
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:08 PM (Sco7b) *spends time completely out of cell coverage for AT&T at least* Yes. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:54 PM (IifvS) Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:55 PM (/lPRQ) 227
*spends time completely out of cell coverage for AT&T at least*
Yes. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:54 P That was funny. Thanks for the laugh. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:56 PM (Sco7b) 228
Afraid shutting the gate its locked on
Had lots in bed and far from home, might have been able to replace or beat some dent out Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:56 PM (Ia/+0) 229
Who was the 'journalist' that Ace said should get a hot dog stand, because he looked like he'd be really great at slinging dogs? It was a whole article of its own, with riffs like how he could probably pay for his retirement by just parking outside Brian Stelter's studio.
Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (Sy6m/) 230
Meanwhile, this new Green Card requirement has got X on fire.
—— Except, it isn’t a new green card requirement. It’s been in place since 1942. It’s not a “rule” or a “policy”. It’s black letter law. It might just seem new, because the cocksuckers in government have been derelict in their duty to the law, their oath, and their personal conduct in the performance of those duties. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 02:58 PM (sEgd8) 231
NOOD FWP
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 02:58 PM (qx7Zg) 232
Meanwhile, this new Green Card requirement has got X on fire.
—— Except, it isn’t a new green card requirement. It’s been in place since 1942. It’s not a “rule” or a “policy”. It’s black letter law. It might just seem new, because the cocksuckers in government have been derelict in their duty to the law, their oath, and their personal conduct in the performance of those duties. Posted by: Common Tater ==== What's the deal with the Green Card ? Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (/lPRQ) 233
I suppose we should wait for the final “deal” with Iran to be announced, but it doesn’t seem like a deal at all. A “promise” to give up nuclear material, and to not charge tolls in the Strait. The latter was never even part of the conversation, but I guess we’ve now ceded Iran that power. Now they also want Israel to cease operations with Hezballah.
So basically the regime and their terror ops stay in place, and they promise to give up their nuclear ambitions. That doesn’t sound like a deal. It sounds like someone selling bullshit. Posted by: Vengeance at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (oAqqA) 234
Blame the Naive Believers like Mitt Romney. Rand Paul. Thomas Massey. All the fucks out in the street throwing bricks off a new pallet.
Blame Ronnie Reagan. Blame Ideology. And the inability to critically think why that Ideology should not be blindly followed. Frankly ? Blame yourself, Dildo. Because you have more than a little Ideology baked into your little WorldView. Posted by: Screw the Nood at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (KDOLa) Posted by: Nood the Screw at May 24, 2026 03:11 PM (sAmhv) 236
What's the deal with the Green Card ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (/lPRQ) They have to go back their home country and wait for their green card application to be processed. No more student visa to OPT to H1-B to green card to citizenship pipeline, without ever setting foot in the third-world shithole that spawned them. They have to actually live as adults in the land that spawned them, not just visit for a wedding or a sick relative, and they are *big mad* about it. Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (Sy6m/) 237
They have to go back their home country and wait for their green card application to be processed. No more student visa to OPT to H1-B to green card to citizenship pipeline, without ever setting foot in the third-world shithole that spawned them. They have to actually live as adults in the land that spawned them, not just visit for a wedding or a sick relative, and they are *big mad* about it.
Posted by: SciVo OK, Yes, for a while they were letting anybody on any visa "adjust status" while physically present in the US. This is only allowed on a few types of Visas - primarily the "immigrant" Visas which obviously allow conversion to LPR. All the others, it was never an option. One could arguably revoke LPR/green cards for all those people because it was done in violation of law. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:32 PM (/lPRQ) 238
So brave!! Fight the Power!!
Posted by: Nood the Screw at May 24, 2026 03:11 PM (sAmhv) Or I could say what ? The thread where he talks about how the stupid kitchen appliance doesn't work ? Or the thread where the food isn't just right ? Posted by: Screw the Nood at May 24, 2026 04:33 PM (KDOLa) 239
What is this nonsense? Nicholas Kristof is most certainly to blame for his own shitty writings. At a certain point, grown men and women must be accountable for their own conduct and can't blame it all on dear old mum and nazi dad.
Posted by: AMartel at May 24, 2026 06:40 PM (otvi3) 240
31 How can someone as spectacularly stupid--or foolish--get such a prominent platform? Does he have a gift for saying stupid things well?
Posted by: Northernlurker -------- Consider Kamala Harris, or AOC. --Mike Hammer Or Chuckie Schumer, or JB Pritzker, or mayor of chitcongo Brandon Johnson, or Elizabeth Warren, or Gavin Newsom, or Karen Bass, or Nancy Pelosi, or Colbert, or Kimmel, or Stewart, or that dipshit socialist female mayor of Seattle, or Tim Walz, or Telarico, or Jasmine Crockett, or Ilhan Omar, or Rashida Tlaib, or Ayanna Pressley, or...now that I think of it, are there ANY Democrats who are NOT morons? Posted by: sf at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (hohh4) Book Thread: May 24th, 2026[Sabrina Chase]![]() Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Read a pre-Great War story, “Jimmy of the Tigers,” by Courtney Ryley Cooper. Published in “The Popular” magazine on June 7th of 1913.
It’s the story of a traveling carnival and gambling den and the people who inhabit them. The owner, Shifty Bill, describes himself as a straight crook and decries “crooked crooks” like the sheriffs the owner pays off to ignore the illicit gaming. Jimmy, his tiger act tells him he might not make a late performance, and Bill thinks it’s a lie to meet a girl. Bill tells him to show up, or else. Jimmy comes up missing before the last show, but arrives just in time, in a disheveled state. He does the show, and the crooked sheriff shows up. He had arrested Jimmy for embezzlement, but the tiger tamer broke jail. The sheriff was hotter about the break than the crime, but let Jimmy go under the threat of Bill exposing the lawman at election time. It’s an interesting read on carny life and the people who lived it. The story’s available to read at pulpmags.org. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:01 AM (1Ff7Z) 2
Tolle Lege
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:02 AM (Ia/+0) 3
Can't wait to eat this tender little boy!
Posted by: The Kitteh at May 24, 2026 09:03 AM (RIvkX) 4
I literally can't remember not knowing how to read. My earliest memory is related to something I'd read about.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:03 AM (LcbzL) 5
Yet, barely moved on Carl v. Clauswitz's On War mostly because been watching war movies all week
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (Ia/+0) 6
Reading aloud is excellent for brain health and longevity.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (RIvkX) Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (vAQDP) 8
Cats ever learn to read like Ben we are in trouble
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:05 AM (Ia/+0) 9
Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?
No, not really. Can't remember when I started to read on my own. Don't remember the books either, though most likely they were Dr. Suess and others of the kind. I do remember a kids book by Bennett Cerf that we had. My first introduction to the man, then re-runs of What's My Line? Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:06 AM (1Ff7Z) 10
Yet, barely moved on Carl v. Clauswitz's On War mostly because been watching war movies all week
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (Ia/+0) Who do you think will win? Carl or Clauswitz? Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:07 AM (1Ff7Z) 11
Morning, Sabrina.
Howdy, Horde. 4K for a middling narrator, eh? Ouch. And since I had the teeth evicted for constant misbehavior I don't read as well as I used to. If I ever finish current projects or decide to do an audiobook of the older novel, looks like AI voice generated will be it. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (q3u5l) 12
4 I literally can't remember not knowing how to read. My earliest memory is related to something I'd read about.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:03 AM ______ Go, dog, go! Are you my mother? One fish, two fish. Red fish, blue fish. Thanks mom. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (2Ez/1) 13
All usual Book Thread rules are incorporated by reference (pets, beverage, clothing covering the lower limbs, etc.)
---- Cat ✅ Coffee✅ Pants✅ I'm within parameters this morning. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (kpS4V) 14
Can't remember being read to or taught to read. Also can't remember ever not being able to read. Is a puzzlement.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:09 AM (q3u5l) 15
Finished Douglas Murray's Democracy and Death Cults and found it very surface, like a long news article. It was enjoyable but I wish he went more in-depth.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:09 AM (RIvkX) 16
I would be a little surprised if anyone didn't have a adult read to them at least before they learned to read or in progress of learning.
But would say I started out early on my own and never stopped. Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:09 AM (Ia/+0) Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 09:09 AM (h7ZuX) 18
This past week, I finished reading "Treasure Island." Twice. First as the original novel, seconds as a comic book adaptation.
The original novel...is very ramble-y. Characters make their point, and then continue speaking for another 3 lines. Also, far too much of the plot consists of Jim Hawkins doing something horribly irresponsible, for no apparent reason whatsoever, and then having everything work out because of it. It's no surprise that most movie adaptations tend to change events to justify or even cut out these adventures... Speaking of movies, there are two movie adaptations that I'm very familiar with, and it's funny that both of them re-imagine Mr. Arrow as a competent, noble officer, instead of the worthless drunk that he was in the novel. Also, both adaptations combine the roles of Dr. Livesly and Squire Trelawney, but one movie keeps the Doctor, while the other one keeps the Squire... Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:10 AM (3v7ra) 19
Morning, Book People!
Currently I'm about halfway through Jean Plaidy's 1966 Royal Sisters, about the palace intrigues swirling around Princess (later Queen) Anne of England -- the daughter of James II, who was the brother of Charles II. It was Anne's sister Mary who became William's wife and is the "William and Mary" of our American university. Plaidy (aka Victoria Holt) keeps the story moving with dialog and necessary exposition. She doesn't describe the rooms where activity takes place, and only rarely what people are wearing. So you have to use your imagination, recall some "royal apartments" sets from movies, or search online if you want to know what Sarah Churchill (Anne's "friend," actually an intriguer behind the throne) might be wearing, for instance. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:10 AM (wzUl9) 20
4K for a middling narrator, eh? Ouch. And since I had the teeth evicted for constant misbehavior I don't read as well as I used to. If I ever finish current projects or decide to do an audiobook of the older novel, looks like AI voice generated will be it.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (q3u5l) JSG, maybe your voice would work in a western. Every western has an old miner in it. Gabby Hayes for the win. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:10 AM (1Ff7Z) 21
Continuing to read historian Adrian Goldsworthy's new book, " Athens and Sparta". Finishing the chapter on Solon the lawgiver. Next up: Sparta's origins and early history.
Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (lJ0H4) 22
My oldest son and his wife read aloud to each other. They switch roles with every chapter.
Audiobooks were a boon to me when I had a job that required a long commute and Rush had died. The only problem was that I had to stop in the middle of a chapter when I reached my destination. I also read Amazing Spider-Man comic books to oldest son when he was little. I quickly learned how to winnow Stan Lee's excessive verbiage. Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (8pIvk) 23
I read A Soldier in the Great War by Mark Helprin. In Italy, Alessandro, a white-haired professor of aesthetics, unexpectedly finds himself on the road with an illiterate factory worker. As they walk the forty miles to Monte Prado, tells his life story to his seventeen-year-old companion; especially about the years spent in the Italian army during World War I. It's a captivating story, rich in details and with memorable characters.
Posted by: Zoltan at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (VOrDg) 24
Booken norgen horden.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (gDlxJ) 25
My grandmother taught me to read at age 3 or 4 by reading to me. She would trace the words in the sentences with her finger, and stop periodically at a word, and I would say it. As time went by, she had me saying more and more words until I was reading the entire story.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (0U5gm) Posted by: Johnny Dollar at May 24, 2026 09:12 AM (2Ez/1) 27
I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.
It is The Secret Chord, by Geraldine Brooks. I had read The People of the Book, by the same author, and it was good. I had high hopes for this story of King David. Early in the book, other characters claimed he buggered his sheep. Then, Jonathan visited him in his tent in the middle of the night for a homo romp. I was done. So sick of this nonsense. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 09:13 AM (h7ZuX) 28
I think if I tried to read to our friendly cat -- the other one stays aloof -- that she would crawl onto the book.
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:14 AM (8pIvk) 29
Finishing up "Pax" by English historian Tom Holland, the subtitle of which is: "War and Peace in Rome's Golden Age." Holland's descriptions of the absolute lunacy of Rome's various emperors from Nero through Hadrian are pretty comical. How Rome managed to impose its "Peace" on the rest of the known world is pretty compelling. It's a wonder they were able to given the utter incompetence of most of their emperors.
Not sure what I'll pick up next. There are a couple new books in the Galaxy's Edge series I need to read ("The Betrayed," which is book 24. And "Escape from Red Eye," which is a new Tyrus Rechs backstory novel). Oh, and OT early: Just picked up two tickets to Rush's November 9 Fifty Something Tour show in Tampa. They have a new drummer, Anita Nilles, from Deutschland. I'm taking my daughter who turns 19 today, as she loves them as much as I did when I was 19 in 1982. Thr tickets were surprisingly affordable. Hello Book Worms!!! Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 09:14 AM (/RHNq) 30
Booken norgen horden.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (gDlxJ) ===== Doop de boop de doop. Posted by: Swedish Chef at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (RIvkX) 31
For the audio book fans.
Escape Pod episode 100: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov https://escapepod.org/2007/04/05/ ep100-nightfall/ Thanks for the content Sabrina! Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (gC0g5) 32
OrangeEnt at 20 --
A fine idea, by cracky. If only I wrote westerns. (Drinks more coffee. Curses as he realizes he forgot to spit out the wad of chewing tobacky first...) Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (q3u5l) 33
Also on my TBR pile: A collection of Asimov's early Robot stories, written with bridging material between them. Several I don't really remember, only "Runaround," "Liar," and "Little Lost Robot." The last in particular is a classic of mystery and suspense, with a logical solution worthy of any first-rank classic detective-story writer.
Also, a collection of Asimov's Nightfall and Other Stories, with intros from IA describing how they came to be written; the second in S.M. Stirling's series about an Earthlike Venus and Mars in the late 20th Century; and something called Sex With Kings by Eleanor Herman. This last is subtitled "500 Years of Adultery, Power, Rivalry, and Revenge." I think that pretty much describes what the book is about! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (wzUl9) 34
Read last week: Wolf Worm by T Kingfisher.
Reading / Listening to Crouchback by Sarah Woodbury, which is part of the Welsh Guard mystery series Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (T5m6M) 35
Thanks for the Sunday Morning Book Thread, Sabrina!
Enjoyable, as always. I don't recall ever being read to as a child, but once I learned to read, I never stopped or slowed down! Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 24, 2026 09:16 AM (D/6p1) 36
Got a stack of those stalwarts of the olde spinrack, the Ballantine's Illustrated History of the Violent Century. Like the venerable series "The World at War", they were written with events occurring within living memory. I'm reading "Their Finest Hour: the Story of the Battle of Britain 1940". The author, Edward Bishop, was a teenaged volunteer messenger in the Home Guard and saw the battle raging overhead.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:16 AM (kpS4V) 37
My grandmother taught me to read at age 3 or 4 by reading to me. She would trace the words in the sentences with her finger, and stop periodically at a word, and I would say it. As time went by, she had me saying more and more words until I was reading the entire story.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 *** I don't remember clearly, but I'm 99% sure that was how I learned to parse out those "little bugs on the paper" as well. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:17 AM (wzUl9) 38
Yay Book Thread!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:17 AM (ZOv7s) 39
The act of speaking, of hearing instead of seeing the words, creates a different mental process. It slows things down, forces you to really think about the words instead of skimming to the next exciting bit.
===== Makes a huge difference with Shakespeare. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:17 AM (RIvkX) 40
There is a clear trend line from socialism to communism to anarchism to terrorism. The trail leads from Rousseau to modern day leftist movements. In The Dynamite Club, John Merriman traces the history of how leftist politics turned to terror in the western world.
While the book focuses on Emile Henry, who bombed a restaurant in Paris in 1894, it covers the broad history of the political movement that is still a threat to society. Beginning in the 1840s, Proudhoun, Kropotkin, and Bakunin moved the left from mere commentary to action towards destroying society in order to rebuild it to their ideal, where owning property was theft. Emile Henry was a young man with a troubled past, whose socialist father had been exiled after the Paris Commune. In 1894, realizing the difficulty of blowing up Sacre Coeur Cathedral, he tried to bomb the Carmeaux Mining Company headquarters, then decided to bomb a restaurant, to strike a blow against the middle class. He killed several and injured dozens more. At his trial, he proudly admitted to his guilt and choosing that locale in order to kill the most bourgeoisie possible. As he approached the guillotine, he shouted "Long live anarchy!" Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:18 AM (0U5gm) 41
Still chugging through "Zone One" by Colson Whitehead.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (kpS4V) 42
I read a comic book adaptation of "Treasure Islands;" a six-issue mini-series from 2007. It was 'written' by Roy Thomas, who seemly just went through the original novel with a highlighter. I'll bet 90% of the comic's dialogue and narration were direct quotes from the novel. Considering how most modern adaptation treat the source material (just look at the current discussions about "The Odessey") this kind of fidelity is downright refreshing.
As for the art...well, the artist can draw convincingly weathered sailors, but that's the only good thing I can say. Jim Hawkins looks like a midget as often as he looks like a child. Dr. Livesly looks like a character from the 1940's, rather than the 1740's, and has no wig, despite said wig being mentioned in the dialogue. And most egregiously, the artist decided to draw a woman as part the Hispaniola's crew. Congratulations; you have successfully added 'diversity' to the crew. And, thinking about the actual events of the story, your new diverse character gets to die horribly, probably after being [mistreated] by a dozen drunken, violent, and mutinous pirates. What a great addition to the story... Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (3v7ra) 43
I think if I tried to read to our friendly cat -- the other one stays aloof -- that she would crawl onto the book.
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 *** My menage is similar. Stirling, the more sociable one, would probably drift off to sleep. ("Cats have many ailments . . . but I never yet knew one to be afflicted with insomnia.") Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (wzUl9) 44
Non-book questions this morning: Why would Thomas Massie be appearing on "Meet the Press"? What kind of drugs is Kristen Welker on? Posted by: Auspex at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (Y8DZL) 45
>>Can't remember being read to or taught to read.
Don't remember being read to or taught to read, either, but must at least have been the former, because I do remember a Saturday morning at my grandmother's house when, all of a sudden, the squiggles on the page became words. Shortly after turning 4. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 09:20 AM (NcvvS) 46
It's hodgepodge time in Geekland. I'm skipping among two comics collections and one novel.
The comics are reprints of Alex Raymond's "Flash Gordon" comic strips from the 1930s throught early '40s and a hardback collection of the first three years of Mike Grell's 1970s DC comic "The Warlord." The book is "Neon Empire," a Nate Heller crime adventure by Max Allan Collins. The Heller series mixed fictional characters, such as Heller, who runs a private investigation agency in Chicago, with real people, such as Jake "Greasy Thumb" Guzik, the chief money man for what became the Chicago Outfit. The story thus far: Heller is hired to bodyguard the operator of a racetrack winners reporting service (another real person: James Ragen) who is under pressure to sell out to Guzik. Ragen is seriously wounded in a South Side ambush. Guzik disavows any role in the hit and instead blames Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel, a gambling kingpin out West. Siegel? "Neon Empire"? Could this be ... Las Vegas? (According to the back cover, yes.) Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:21 AM (8pIvk) 47
I made sure to thank my mom on Mother’s Day for instilling in me a love of reading. I learned to read at an early age and have looked back. It’s one of my greatest joys in life.
Posted by: Perfessor Sqiurrel at May 24, 2026 09:21 AM (9DV3O) 48
I remember wanting to know very much how to read, when watching my father reading Mad Magazine and laughing ... and I wanted very much to know what was in that magazine which amused him so very much. A little later, Mom found a regular radio program - I think from the BBC (Which I thought then stood for Baby Book Company) with the musical theme of Golliwog's Cakewalk - and a narrator who read "My Side of the Mountain" - which my brother and I adored so much that Mom bought a copy of it for us. Later on, when I could read chapter books, it was the Little House on the Prairie series. Much, much later - I read all of Lord of the Rings to my little brother, and then to my daughter. It took a year or so each time at a chapter a night, and both Little Bro and the Daughter unit adored that series. Just about every chapter ends on a cliffhanger... Little Bro could talk like a hobbit by the time we were done. He also dressed like a hobbit for Halloween that year.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at May 24, 2026 09:21 AM (Ew3fm) 49
Some even switch from print to ebook to audio in the same book, depending on what is convenient at the time.
-- I like doing this So helpful with strange names- audio shows how to pronounce them (a minor setting point in the Welsh Guard mysteries) and text shows how to spell them. Also text is better for details like lists and such. Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 09:22 AM (nLlkW) 50
Why would Thomas Massie be appearing on "Meet the Press"?
What kind of drugs is Kristen Welker on? Posted by: Auspex at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (Y8DZL) ==== You will in short order soon see Massie on Tucker, Megyn, etc. Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:22 AM (RIvkX) 51
Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?
====== One of my Mom's favorite stories was of me coming from my first day of First Grade, crying because they hadn't taught me how to read. Made up for lost time, though. Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 09:22 AM (rj6Yv) 52
I do not enjoy AI generated voice narration. It is too monotone and artificial. A bad narration can make me abandon a book. I've been reading 2 books at a time lately. One I read on my kindle and one I listen to while driving, cooking, doing chores, working, etc. I only "read" in bed so being able to listen to a book while doing other things has expanded my reading experience.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 24, 2026 09:23 AM (VCgbV) 53
JSG, I saw how you spotted the author and even the book ("a 60-year-old detective novel") which was the source of Weird Dave's quote abut friendship on Friday's ONT. I should have known you would. I knew it was MacDonald, one of the Travis McGees, but not which one!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:23 AM (wzUl9) 54
Morning, all.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:23 AM (qRla/) 55
We had to read aloud and recite at school at an early age. (Also Catholic school so by 2nd grade learned prayers for 1st Communion and Reconciliation) 1sr grade (still have report card) I needed to practice reading. Thanks to that it began going to our library and coming home with a pile of books. My Mom read and we had a den full of all kinds of books, pleasure, encyclopedia, works of Shakespeare, identifying rocks etc so we had a huge mix of books with which to explore whenever we wanted. That and curiosity really shaped my reading. Finished reading The List of Suspicious Things. Reminded me a little of hanging and walking to school with my best friend and growing up. It’s a bit of a sad book too but in the end a full circle ending. A bit messy like life.
Posted by: Hyacinth at May 24, 2026 09:24 AM (7x3MF) 56
Currently reading Flashfire, #19 of the 24 Donald Westlake/Richard Stark Parker series and still enjoying the hell out of them. But some time this week, I'll finish them. So what to do next? MacDonald's Travis McGee novels? The other MacDonald's Lew Archers? Or take another run at Bleak House? Or maybe, just maybe, even try to write something.
Decisions, decisions. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:24 AM (q3u5l) 57
@29 --
I'm going to one of the Fort Worth concerts next month. Also going to hit a couple of Half Price Books shops although I nothing to buy. (That ties this post into the Book Thread.) Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:24 AM (8pIvk) 58
"Another version of audiobooks are radio programs."
++++++ Call me. Yours truly, Posted by: Johnny Dollar _____________ Been listening to a Bob and Ray soap opera compilation in the car for weeks. Mary Backstage, Noble Wife mostly. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 24, 2026 09:25 AM (XvL8K) 59
Finishing up "Pax" by English historian Tom Holland, the subtitle of which is: "War and Peace in Rome's Golden Age." Holland's descriptions of the absolute lunacy of Rome's various emperors from Nero through Hadrian are pretty comical.
------ There were a lot of lunatics. But not all of them. Hadrian's predecessor (Trajan) and successor (Antoninus Pius) were both very stable geniuses - the latter has my vote for greatest emperor in Rome's history, against prevailing opinion. I would also argue that Hadrian was no lunatic, but he was among my least respected emperors. He was a rootless cosmopolitan pederast, who openly disdained Rome and Italy. To such an extent that he rarely so much as visited the peninsula during his reign. He strongly preferred to travel among the Eastern provinces, indulging in their mystery cults and frolicking gaily with his precious boys while he elevated the Empire's foreign subjects at every turn. As an American, I'm far too familiar with being lorded over by globalist pedophile homos who hate me. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 24, 2026 09:25 AM (BI5O2) 60
I was an early reader. I can't recall not reading. Favorite books (which I still have) are The Lorax and Cars and Trucks and Things That Go.
Now on Book 3 of City of God. I'm taking it slow because it is pretty heavy stuff. Glad I read so much Roman histories in high school and college, otherwise I'd be getting a lot less out of it. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s) 61
I have always preferred books to audio, as I can pace better, but when the kids were young and we had road trips to undertake, we picked up several audio books to keep them occupied. We bought Peter Nimble as well as all of the Narnia books by C.S. Lewis, among others. Now, when I find a decent audio book, I will grab it and put it on a memory stick to have handy for the next long trip.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:26 AM (0U5gm) 62
Visiting NYC this weekend so of course we had to stop at the Strand Bookstore. They've still got racks of discount books on the sidewalk -- though now they're $3-7 rather than $1 like on my first visit. Still the closest thing America has to the old bookstalls in Turin or along the Seine in Paris. (I wonder if any of those still exist?)
Scored a copy of Fridjof Nansen's memoir Farthest North, about his Arctic expeditions, and a copy of The Surprise of Cremona by Edith Templeton, a great piece of 1950s travel writing, still in print after more than half a century. Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:26 AM (LcbzL) 63
Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 09:26 AM (yTvNw) 64
Why would Thomas Massie be appearing on "Meet the Press"?
What kind of drugs is Kristen Welker on? Posted by: Auspex at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM ----- Why do people still watch television? Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at May 24, 2026 09:27 AM (2Ez/1) 65
In my never-ending quest to find cool comic books that aren't super-hero themed, I stumbled across something both unexpected and unsurprising; a bunch of "Marvel Illustrated" branded mini-series from the late 00's. I call this 'unexpected' because I figured that at that time period, Marvel wouldn't be interested in anything other than their own super-heroes. But I also call it 'unsurprising' because these are adaptations of classic (public domain) novels; Moby Dick, Treasure Island (see my previous comments) Three Musketeers, and the like. These stories have been adapted hundreds of times, so it can't be surprising to see one more company take a shot at them. And while I'd prefer to see some original stories in these settings/time periods, I'm happy to take what I can get...
...Also, as I glance back at it, I see that the Treasure Island comic is rated 'Teen+'. Really? No swearing and no gore and it's still Teen+? For what? The skeleton? And people think the old Comics Code Authority was stringent.... Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (3v7ra) 66
Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?
*** I seem to recall something in my first-grade schoolroom library called Space Cat Goes to Mars! I went off to school already knowing how to read. One day about two weeks into first grade, my teacher asked me to stay behind after 3:00. "Oops," I thought, "I'm in trouble, but for what?" She sat me down and said quietly, "Wolfus, you already know how to read, don't you?" "Sure," I said -- I'd thought everybody did. Knowing what I know about schools vs. parents now, I suspect there were some recriminations directed at Mom. As for me, I got a field promotion to second grade that month, and moved on (after some testing) to third the next year. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (wzUl9) 67
Veapasian was good but he came up the ranks marcus aurelius a century later
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (bXbFr) 68
I do not enjoy AI generated voice narration.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 24, 2026 09:23 AM (VCgbV) --- The audiobook I did for Battle Officer Wolf hasn't sold any copies, but neither has any other version of the book. It's been out for a while, so not surprising. The benefit of the machine reader is that it is hugely helpful in editing, and since it is free, I will be using it for each additional book and probably going back to do revised editions of published material. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:29 AM (ZOv7s) 69
What is this meet the press you speak of
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:29 AM (bXbFr) 70
I love that top photo. Reminds me of our great nephew who just turned seven. His dad describes him as a reading machine (when he's not playing baseball) and he likes reading to his little brothers and, probably, their dogs.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 09:29 AM (yTvNw) Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 09:29 AM (NcvvS) 72
Like most of you, I don't remember not being able to read. But I also don't remember anyone reading to me. From the little I remember of my childhood, no-one in my family really read anything other than newspapers. Grandmother read, but she was also deaf, so read of necessity. My great-uncle was a reader, but also a devout Catholic, so his books were mostly pre-Vatican II devotionals and theological works.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:30 AM (qRla/) 73
So what to do next? MacDonald's Travis McGee novels? The other MacDonald's Lew Archers? Or take another run at Bleak House? Or maybe, just maybe, even try to write something.
Decisions, decisions. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 *** Miss Linda asked about you last night and wondered if you'v ever read the Ed McBain "87th Precinct" series. If you haven't, he wrote a *lot* of them and they are all solid. My personal favorite is one called Ghosts, which features his "lead" detective, Steve Carella. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:31 AM (wzUl9) Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:31 AM (LcbzL) 75
Mao's Army Goes to Sea is languishing. It is a disappointment. So much padding, so little substance. I might attempt to plow through it today because I think I'm finally at the actual "book" part of the book, as opposed to the forward, introduction, statement of scope, backstory, background, digression on the PLA's administrative systems, etc.
Also, the writer uses a very pedestrian style. Only hard-core China military history addicts should bother with it. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:32 AM (ZOv7s) 76
27 I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 09:13 AM (h7ZuX) Oh, that's serious. It takes a lot for someone on this treat to go that far....But, from the rest of your comment, yeah, it seems justified. Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:33 AM (3v7ra) 77
We twigged to one of our children *memorizing* the books and then *pretending* to read aloud as she turned the pages.
Posted by: DavidD at May 24, 2026 09:34 AM (MSTeU) 78
I went off to school already knowing how to read. One day about two weeks into first grade, my teacher asked me to stay behind after 3:00. "Oops," I thought, "I'm in trouble, but for what?"
She sat me down and said quietly, "Wolfus, you already know how to read, don't you?" "Sure," I said -- I'd thought everybody did. Knowing what I know about schools vs. parents now, I suspect there were some recriminations directed at Mom. As for me, I got a field promotion to second grade that month, and moved on (after some testing) to third the next year. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius I had the same experience. I do recall one teacher, probably third grade, being very angry that I would read extra books and not write a book report on every one. The teacher put in my report card that I would be a failure in life. Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:34 AM (0U5gm) 79
Tell us so we dont pick up accidentally
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:34 AM (bXbFr) 80
As far as reading this week, I haven't done much that wasn't 1920s related. Still making my way through Ten Restaurants That Changed America, but it's a book that makes me hungry, so I have to go slowly. Right now, I am on a chapter about the Mandarin, a San Fran place that introduced high-level Chinese dining to Americans.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:35 AM (qRla/) 81
I learned to read Bam! Pow! and Zowie! watchin Batman.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:35 AM (RIvkX) 82
Veapasian was good but he came up the ranks marcus aurelius a century later
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (bXbFr) Vespasian was good. Titus was good. Domitian was an asshole, but gets a worse rep than he earned. Nerva was fine. I think the horror of the Julio-Claudians, particularly by comparison to Augustus, gives both their contemporaries and historians a tendency to judge Roman emperors perhaps more harshly than they always deserved. The Flavians and Antonines were pretty good, on balance. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 24, 2026 09:35 AM (BI5O2) 83
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:35 AM (qRla/)
iirc they invented the Fortune cookie? Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:36 AM (RIvkX) 84
Did you know there was another Bill Nye? Edgar Wilson "Bill" Nye was a humorist in the later 1800s that had this to say about George Washington:
"In conclusion, let me say that George Washington was successful for three reasons. One was that he never shook the confidence of his friends. Another was that he had a strong will without being a mule. Some people cannot distinguish between being firm and being a big blue jackass. Another reason why Washington is loved and honored today is that he died before we had a chance to get tired of him. This is greatly superior to the method adopted by many modern statesmen, who wait till their constituency weary of them and then reluctantly and tardily die." Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 09:36 AM (vFG9F) 85
"who"
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 09:37 AM (vFG9F) 86
33 Also on my TBR pile: ... the second in S.M. Stirling's series about an Earthlike Venus and Mars in the late 20th Century;
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (wzUl9) Was that the book set on Mars? Or was there a second one set on Venus? I remember reading 1 Venus book, then 1 Mars book, and then I never returned to the series... Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:37 AM (3v7ra) 87
And as for my own work, I finished the editing draft of my new Theda Bara novel, and am slowly making my way through it. I spent last Friday reading the first half aloud to my writing partner / muse, looking for her thoughts. We'll be going through the second half this week, and then, after I've made changes, will be asking for some beta readers.
I wanted to have the book out by Bara's birthday at the end of July, but I don't know if I'll make it. Not that I have hordes of fans begging me for the book, anyway. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:37 AM (qRla/) 88
Yes im painting with a broad brush but there were msny mediocre emperors the same with the byzantines
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (bXbFr) 89
Just finished 'Flying Lessons" by a passed away grade school friend. Scott Grange.
I enjoyed it. As a novel. But being based on a real story I have issues. It should be the real story. I would have loved to have been able to proofread this for Scott. Two mistakes is all but I would have recommended dropping the whole pretence of it being based on a real story. There are things invented out of whole cloth inserted into a real incident that needs no help being facinating. D-Day. The reader is left wondering how much is real. I'm going to spend a little time figuring that out. Particularly the villian. His story is almost too much to believe as made up. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (594J6) 90
...Also, as I glance back at it, I see that the Treasure Island comic is rated 'Teen+'. Really? No swearing and no gore and it's still Teen+? For what? The skeleton? And people think the old Comics Code Authority was stringent....
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 *** Skeletons were all over the books I read as a pre-teen. The Hardy Boys, for instance; there's at least one with the word in the title, The Skeleton in the Clock (?) (or "the Armoire," or something). The opening chapter of my favorite Roy Rogers story of that time, The Ghost of Mystery Rancho, has a skeleton in a chair in the entryway of an abandoned mission, arranged as a booby trap. A sheriff steps on the threshold and wires trigger the loaded pistols in the bony hands of the skeleton, killing the lawman. And motivating young Texas Ranger Roy to avenge his friend and find out who this masked and murderous bandit is. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9) 91
One of my kids kept learning to read a secret from us, apparently out of concern that it might result in no more story reading at bedtime. We learned of the ruse when the kid's kindergarten teacher complained that the kid was secretly reading during mandatory naptime. I was very proud.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (LcbzL) 92
Let us not forget one source of developing a reader -- newspaper comic strips. Dad would sit in his chair with me on one side and my sister on the other and read "the funnies" to us, using different voices and adding his own laughter or commentary ("That wasn't very funny.").
And in fifth and sixth grade -- small school, both classes in one room -- our teacher would read aloud to us. Why she chose "Island of Blue Dolphins" is something I don't know. Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (8pIvk) 93
My mom barely ever saw the inside of a college classroom, but she sure knew how to wear out a library card.
She had a rocking chair and a screen porch where she devoured an endless stream of paperbacks, Newsweek magazines every week cover to cover (hey, it was the 70s), a wealthy neighbor's Wall Street Journal (passed along a day late) and even her small hometown's newspaper which would arrive in the mail. And a lot of cigarettes. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (2Ez/1) 94
In other book-related news, I shifted a bookcase from the Great Room to the Petit Shrine (the old formal dining room). Quite the logistical undertaking, and I am very sore this morning. It is now ensconced next to two other bookcases bought a year ago at an estate sale that match it in size, color and style. When I am mobile again, I will be shifting the books to create a more thematic arrangement.
Hitherto, many of the book have been put where they fit. I am now rationalizing the collection, and of course removing works that I haven't read, won't read, or don't even know how they got on the shelf (a non-trivial amount). Earlier efforts produced the China Reference Area, which combines all works pertaining to China, which had hitherto been split between Kids' Stories, military history, general history, and philosophy. Now it's all in one easy to find place. I intend to create a dedicated space for Tolkien, which is something of a challenge given the varied size of the books, but a core concept is that not all books need to be on display. The spare copies of LotR, for example, can be elsewhere. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:39 AM (ZOv7s) 95
As an American, I'm far too familiar with being lorded over by globalist pedophile homos who hate me.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 24, 2026 09:25 AM (BI5O2) This too is the story of Barak Obama. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:39 AM (1Ff7Z) 96
33 Also on my TBR pile: ... the second in S.M. Stirling's series about an Earthlike Venus and Mars in the late 20th Century;
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 * Was that the book set on Mars? Or was there a second one set on Venus? I remember reading 1 Venus book, then 1 Mars book, and then I never returned to the series... Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 *** The first, The Sky People, was on Venus. This one, In the Courts of the Crimson Kings, is set on Mars. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:39 AM (wzUl9) 97
Tom holland is very good mary beard is afflicted with presentism
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:40 AM (bXbFr) 98
Yes im painting with a broad brush but there were msny mediocre emperors the same with the byzantines
It's a living. - - Galba Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:41 AM (qRla/) 99
I had the same experience. I do recall one teacher, probably third grade, being very angry that I would read extra books and not write a book report on every one. The teacher put in my report card that I would be a failure in life.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 *** Oh, we were told in fifth grade *not* to take our readers home and read ahead. So naturally I did just that and was bored even more of the time in school than usual. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:42 AM (wzUl9) 100
I should probably mention that there is a wide range of AI audiobook narration. Some of it, particularly the early stuff, is indeed quite robotic. Amazon's Digital Voice, though, knows about sentence inflection and even does quite well on the made-up words that science fiction and fantasy employ. The best so far is ElevenLabs. You can *create* your own narration voice using prompts like with ChatGpt, and also tell it the narrator should shout, whisper, or be sarcastic. It sounds human.
I completely respect human narrators and their skills, and want to pay them what they are worth. But until I can EARN enough to pay them, AI is a good way to bootstrap and give readers the audio equivalent to a paperback. Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 09:42 AM (vAQDP) 101
Dad would sit in his chair with me on one side and my sister on the other and read "the funnies" to us, using different voices and adding his own laughter or commentary ("That wasn't very funny.").
Posted by: Weak Geek I used to do that when reading to my kids, changing voices with the characters, and adding in sound effects. I think it helped when they were very young. Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:42 AM (0U5gm) 102
Yeah obama would have been a vsndsl emperor
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:43 AM (bXbFr) 103
Growing up, my sisters & I read a lot, my brother very little. Only later, when he did a lot of air travel for work, did he develop an interest in reading. Big on mysteries.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 09:43 AM (NcvvS) 104
Yeah he drew the short straw four that year
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:44 AM (bXbFr) 105
I was actually gobsmacked this past week to see a post on the Reactor blog (alias Tor.com) in which the author actually complained about the galloping presentism and anachronisms in a lot of contemporary "historical" media and literature. In the past that site has published various apologia for awkwardly shoehorning "women warriors" and diverse people of color into medieval Europe, so this is a real shocker. Even more shocking was the generally supportive tone of the comments.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:44 AM (LcbzL) 106
Oh, that's serious. It takes a lot for someone on this treat to go that far....But, from the rest of your comment, yeah, it seems justified.
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:33 AM (3v7ra) I've only tossed one book in anger. GWB's book "Record of Accomplishment." After his remarks on President Trump, into the recycle bin it went. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:44 AM (1Ff7Z) 107
Island of Doctor Moreau. Some castaways are let loose in the tropics; Edward Prendick survives. This is cast as a memoir found adrift latitude 5° 3′ S x 101° W - so ten degrees west of Galapagos.
Imagine someone got to the Jurassic Park by accident and that's a fair summary of the intro. Apparently there is a movie: Island of Lost Souls 1932. There's a catgirl. One of several reasons we got the Hayes Code. There are other movies but they are (somehow) cheesier. Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 09:45 AM (1gmsy) 108
I do need to do some writing today, but also some reading. For a novel set in Hollywood, my book has precious little 'movie scenery' in it. I need to write a scene that shows a film being shot - which I can do off the top of my head - but also need to search through memoirs of early Hollywood to get a few details just right. So I will probably do more reading than writing at all.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:45 AM (qRla/) 109
Yeah obama would have been a vsndsl emperor
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 *** I presume you meant "Vandal"? Accused once in college by a girlfriend of being a "vandal" because I'd added some graffiti to a bathroom stall, I said proudly, "No, I'm a Visigoth!" Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:45 AM (wzUl9) 110
Veapasian was good but he came up the ranks marcus aurelius a century later
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (bXbFr) --- The Roman military system frequently generated excellent emperors. The Crisis of the Second Century was solved by a series of soldier-emperors starting with Claudius II. The Julio-Claudians get something of a bum rap because of the quality (and quantity) of writing about them from Rome. The picture in the provinces was entirely different, and a big part of why we know so much was that Tacitus was an exceptional Latin stylist, and his works were preserved because of that as much as their content. St. Augustine is similarly treasured for the quality of his writing, which comes through in translation. Very readable, nice turns of phrase, though the translators stress that his use of rhyming and pacing does not cross over to English. I enjoy footnotes pointing out that certain phrases are masterpieces of Latin. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:46 AM (ZOv7s) 111
I am very fond of Stirling's In the Courts of the Crimson Kings. He manages to make Martians understandable yet very alien. Also the line "Feral engines!" makes me giggle and sometimes I say it to recalcitrant devices. Why yes, I AM a nerd.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 09:47 AM (vAQDP) 112
Speaking of audio books, I must recommend the audio book of The Magician's Nephew read by Kenneth Branaugh. What a phenomenal narrator. He not only changes volume and speed to match the suspense, but he nails the characters and dialects of every character, even the minor ones. At some points, it is hard to imagine that one person is doing the reading.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:47 AM (0U5gm) 113
Usta look forward to the Sunday paper when the comics were in color. And of course everyone developed their own particular order of comic strip consumption, saving your favorite for last.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1) 114
I'm persnickety about audiobooks. On long drives (which I don't have to do anymore, thank goodness) I preferred to play music, especially if I could sing along. Trying to follow a book while in traffic on the Penn Turnpike or I-90 was not a good combination.
But I have found some audiobooks that I love. The narrator can bring out aspects that I missed even on many rereadings. One example I've mentioned is Gary Sinise reading Steinbeck's Travels With Charly. It's wonderful and nuanced without being distractingly over the top. I have several versions of LOTR on audio. Didn't care for the BBC production that is more like a stage play. It distracted me from the words. But the Rob Inglis and, even better, Andy Serkis versions are excellent: clear, emotive, and bring out aspects that I missed when reading. They are gems. Same for Derek Jacobi reading Voyage of the Dawn Trader from the Narnia series. Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 09:48 AM (yTvNw) Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:49 AM (bXbFr) 116
Three Investigators book: "Mystery of the Talking Skull."
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:49 AM (8pIvk) 117
And in fifth and sixth grade -- small school, both classes in one room -- our teacher would read aloud to us. Why she chose "Island of Blue Dolphins" is something I don't know.
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (8pIvk --- I remember my third and fourth grade teachers reading aloud to us. "James and the Giant Peach", "The Glass Slipper", and others. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (kpS4V) 118
40 There is a clear trend line from socialism to communism to anarchism to terrorism. The trail leads from Rousseau to modern day leftist movements. In The Dynamite Club, John Merriman traces the history of how leftist politics turned to terror in the western world.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:18 AM (0U5gm) I remember when I first became aware of the anarchist-bombing movements of old. They made me irrationally angry. But they also made me smugly-satisfied, because that sort of foolishness was safely behind us, relegated to the dustbin of history. That was in the 2000's, when domestic troublemakers seemed far less relevant than home-grown ones. But now...glances at the headlines from last night...well, home-grown violence is back on the menu, it seems. Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (3v7ra) 119
My first book that I can remember was Go Dog Go. Hell yeah I still have a copy. Mom taught me to read early, so I was reading before kindergarten. My birthday is late in the year, so I missed the cutoff for starting school and had to wait a year, but when they found out I reading when I started kindergarten they pulled my out and put my in first grade. I still have some of my earliest books. Yeah, Go Dog Go was my fav.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (snZF9) 120
Yeah obama would have been a vsndsl emperor
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:43 AM (bXbFr) --- Obama was closest to Honorius - did nothing to earn the job, hid his court, watched the Empire collapse around him, kept acting important anyway. Killed his best commanders due to palace intrigue. You could argue that he might have been one of the late puppet emperors as well. He very clearly saw his role is guiding the US into decline and strategic irrelevance, and there's a pretty obvious parallel with settling barbarian tribes in the Empire, undermining its integrity. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s) 121
Many of the chronicler of the era tacitus plutarch cassius dio was pretty good
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:52 AM (bXbFr) 122
I remember my third and fourth grade teachers reading aloud to us. "James and the Giant Peach", "The Glass Slipper", and others.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (kpS4V) --- Library time was a mainstay of elementary school. One day a week we'd troop over to the library and the librarian or a parent volunteer would read a book to us. Lots of good books - Phantom Toll Booth, James and the Giant Peach - and then we had a few minutes at the end to check out a book. I was always over at 940, picking out a war book. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:52 AM (ZOv7s) 123
For America 250 I'm reading The Daily Journals of the Lewis and Clark. All of the old Lewis and Clark public domain journal books are abridged with one (
The advantage of reading the journals versus condensed prose versions is pretty simple - mystery. L&C didn't know what tribe members or prairie topography they might encounter from day to day. They had hard ordinary days or sometimes ran across odd things: a 12 foot wide by 30 foot high fascine erected by Indians on an willow eyot, or the ruins of a strange fortress built by people unknown for reasons unknown. Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 09:53 AM (gC0g5) 124
He was the exception
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:54 AM (bXbFr) 125
Raul is a cool cat.
Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 09:54 AM (LHPAg) 126
The problem with AI reading is that is doesn't have the proper rhythm and emphasis for all types of novels. F'rinstance a humorous novel would suffer hugely without the proper inflection and emphasis. Same with an action novel or horror novel. I imagine it would take a huge amount of tweaking to get an AI to sound correct. Imagine a PG Wodehouse Jeeves and Bertie novel read flatly...yuck! Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 09:54 AM (iJfKG) 127
I also don't remember how I learned to read, just that I always could. My mother finished HS it my father didn't driving a truck for the family bakery. But there were a,ways newspapers, magazines and I could walk to the library where I had to get written permission to take books from the adult section.
Trying to finish book 5 in Pierce Brown's Red Rising series Dark Age for the 3rd time. It is a great book but easy to put down when current events take precedence. His battle scenes are so exciting as I root for the good guys to pull off a miraculous win which they lways do until..... Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 09:55 AM (kJmSS) 128
Library time was a mainstay of elementary school. One day a week we'd troop over to the library and the librarian or a parent volunteer would read a book to us. Lots of good books - Phantom Toll Booth, James and the Giant Peach - and then we had a few minutes at the end to check out a book.
I was always over at 940, picking out a war book. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 *** I faintly recall one title from our elementary school "library" (one room in the building) called Captain Apple's Ghost. Even at age nine, anything with a supernatural element got my attention. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:56 AM (wzUl9) 129
Sabrina,
Thanks for the thread today. You always bring an author's viewpoint most aren't aware of. Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 09:56 AM (yTvNw) 130
Don't think Batmann taught me to read, but B.B. did teach me all I know about opera
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:57 AM (Ia/+0) 131
46 It's hodgepodge time in Geekland. I'm skipping among two comics collections and one novel.
The comics are reprints of Alex Raymond's "Flash Gordon" comic strips from the 1930s throught early '40s and a hardback collection of the first three years of Mike Grell's 1970s DC comic "The Warlord." The book is "Neon Empire," a Nate Heller crime adventure by Max Allan Collins. Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:21 AM (8pIvk) Only three books at once? Pft. (cut to the 'those are rookie numbers' meme-clip) What do you think of Warlord so far? I'm still paused in my reading of it. And the Flash Gordon strip...were those dailies, or Sunday pages? It's been a long time since I read a daily adventure strip. The three-panel pacing is...certainly a different sort of experience. Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:58 AM (3v7ra) 132
Obama was closest to Honorius - did nothing to earn the job, hid his court, watched the Empire collapse around him, kept acting important anyway. Killed his best commanders due to palace intrigue.
I'd say Elagabalus. Petulant, childish, wasteful and devoted to an alien culture. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:58 AM (qRla/) 133
Don't think Batmann taught me to read, but B.B. did teach me all I know about opera
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 *** My mother said she started me out on comic books like Bugs Bunny and Porky Pig. She'd read the "big" words (not that there were many in a Dell comic) and I'd read the "little" ones. Before long, I was reading the "big" ones too. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:59 AM (wzUl9) 134
American Thinker's audio is frustrating. I have to read the essay to confirm what I think I heard, thus defeating the purpose of the audio.
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:00 AM (8pIvk) 135
I remember when I first became aware of the anarchist-bombing movements of old. They made me irrationally angry. But they also made me smugly-satisfied, because that sort of foolishness was safely behind us, relegated to the dustbin of history. That was in the 2000's, when domestic troublemakers seemed far less relevant than home-grown ones. But now...glances at the headlines from last night...well, home-grown violence is back on the menu, it seems.
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (3v7ra) --- Marxism is a heresy, and a very old one at that. You see it pop up at various times in history under different names. The modern version latched onto the Enlightenment and claimed to be secular ("scientific") but it's still just weaponized greed, envy, wrath and pride. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:00 AM (ZOv7s) 136
Wolfus (& Miss Linda) --
Yep, I've read the 87th Precinct books, and they were delightful. I may have missed some of the last ones that came out after we moved from Chicago to SE KS in late 85, though. That's a terrific series too -- can't remember reading a bad one. Another series ripe for a revisit. No longer have the hardcovers, but they're all on the Kindle waiting for my lazy kazoosis to open 'em up again. His Evan Hunter novels aren't too dusty either. Blackboard Jungle and Last Summer are probably the best known but I'm kinda partial to Sons and Far from the Sea. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:01 AM (q3u5l) 137
You know, my younger sisters never developed the reading habit, the absolute necessity of books, that I did. I am also the only Comservative while,they are liberals in the worst sense of the word. 🤔
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 10:02 AM (kJmSS) 138
The cat is staring down at me from the back of the sofa as I read. It's disconcerting.
Blink, already! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 10:02 AM (kpS4V) 139
Also, a collection of Asimov's Nightfall and Other Stories...
Just my opinion -- because I know how important that is to you all -- but "Nightfall" is either the best SF short ever or tied for first with "Johnny Mnemonic." Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:03 AM (vTZFs) 140
>>My birthday is late in the year, so I missed the cutoff for starting school and had to wait a year, but when they found out I reading when I started kindergarten they pulled my out and put my in first grade.
Opposite problem, here: birthday just before the cutoff date, (after start of school year). Parents were not going to sign off on sticking a 4-year-old into first grade. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 10:03 AM (NcvvS) 141
Riouchas space opera leans heavily on Roman tropes
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:03 AM (bXbFr) 142
I remember the Little Golden Books, and I could read before the first grade. There was no kindergarten. We had the Compton Encyclopedia at home early and I went through that pretty quick.
'A person who doesn't read is no better than a person who can't read.' - Johnny Cash (I think) Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 10:04 AM (LHPAg) 143
I need to go back and reread some of my Poul Anderson collection. It's not huge, but I have The Star Fox, which I've mostly forgotten, The Trouble Twisters (three long short stories about the Polesotechnic League era), and his first, Brain Wave. I used to have a paperback copy of his War of the Wing-Men with a wonderful painting of one of the aliens featured in the story. The artist must actually have read the book, or at least enough to absorb Anderson's description.
Oh, and I have Anderson's The Book of Poul Anderson with various short and long stories, and his grand fantasy of a 20th-Century world run by magic, Operation Chaos. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:04 AM (wzUl9) 144
The problem with AI reading is that is doesn't have the proper rhythm and emphasis for all types of novels.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 09:54 AM (iJfKG) --- Amazon's isn't bad. You can put notes into the text and adjust tempo and such, and of course free. Obviously, a professional working on a great script can do more, but it is better than nothing for the budget-minded indie author. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:04 AM (ZOv7s) 145
Ruocchio marlowe series
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:05 AM (bXbFr) 146
@131 --
Castle Guy, they were Sunday strips. "Flash Gordon" didn't have a daily strip until after Raymond was drafted, which ended his work on the strip. Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:05 AM (8pIvk) 147
Yes, read to your children, starting as an infant, and don't stop when they first learn to read. It was a nightly ritual up to somewhere in the age of 9 or 10. It not only helps reading skills, it builds speaking, vocabulary, and indirectly, writing ability. In addition to helping the kids in an academic way, it's a bonding time with them.
The only rough patch was when a book became a favorite. "Santa Claus and his Elves", every night... for several weeks... weeks, I tell you. Posted by: George V at May 24, 2026 10:05 AM (HUbHH) 148
I'd say Elagabalus. Petulant, childish, wasteful and devoted to an alien culture.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:58 AM (qRla/) --- Obama hid his perversion rather than celebrate it. I think he's much closer to one of the late barbarian-sponsored tools than anyone with actual agency. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:06 AM (ZOv7s) 149
I remember my third and fourth grade teachers reading aloud to us. "James and the Giant Peach", "The Glass Slipper", and others.
I remember that also. I wonder if they're still allowed to do that these days or if it takes time away from practicing pronouns and putting rubbers on bananas. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:06 AM (vTZFs) 150
Just my opinion -- because I know how important that is to you all -- but "Nightfall" is either the best SF short ever or tied for first with "Johnny Mnemonic."
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 *** I'm fond of "Nightfall." But I prefer Blish's "Surface Tension" (more a novelette, though), Heinlein's "The Long Watch," and Cordwainer Smith's "The Game of Rat and Dragon." Alfred Bester's "Fondly Fahrenheit" is up there too. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:07 AM (wzUl9) 151
I have always preferred books that are mostly pictures.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 10:07 AM (wN/sj) 152
Opposite problem, here: birthday just before the cutoff date, (after start of school year). Parents were not going to sign off on sticking a 4-year-old into first grade.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 10:03 AM (NcvvS) --- I was always one of the youngest people in my grade, graduated at 17. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:08 AM (ZOv7s) 153
I started a couple of books but got distracted by some appointments where I brought along and re-read Manning Coles' Non Negotiable
Tommy Hambleton is in Belgium trying to find some leads on counterfeit ring passing exceptional quality bills when he observes a dead drop in a cafe. In following it up he finds corpses, accommodation addresses, jilted fiancés, bakery apprentices, Antoine Letourd of the Surete, petty criminals, a shadowy and sinister character named Maurice who seems to be running the whole ring, and the person actually pulling the strings from plain sight. It is a usual Manning Coles spy novel, with desperate fights, boring stake outs, clever commentary and the tragic deaths that dampens the fun in post-war Europe. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:08 AM (rbvCR) 154
narf
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:08 AM (rbvCR) 155
My first book that I can remember was Go Dog Go.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division Now that you mention it, that would be a great name for a band. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:09 AM (vTZFs) 156
>>I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.
I have done that once. It was "Shutter Island." The ending was so dark and depressing I did not wish to share the book with anyone else by donating it to the used bookstore, thus ruining their day (the day they finished the book). Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 10:12 AM (X8xt3) 157
Now that you mention it, that would be a great name for a band.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:09 AM (vTZFs) --- I saw Go Dog Go open for They Might Be Giants at Pine Knob in 1996. Great show! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:12 AM (ZOv7s) 158
I'm deaf, so audiobooks are not my thing. It was recommended to me to listen to them when I first got my cochlear implants to help train my brain, so I went with books I can recite nearly from memory, which was Jane Austen. It was useful for training, but longer term, it would be very difficult if not impossible for me to consume a book I'd never read before that way. It would literally be easier and faster for me to read a book in my second, third, or fifth language than to listen to it. Even if I could, though, I'm also a speed reader and cannot imagine being confined to the slow pace of audiobooks. (I read 4 books just yesterday, for example.) I obviously don't drive and read at the same time, but cooking, cleaning, etc. I do with an ereader in hand.
I finally read Project Hail Mary yesterday. It was pretty good. There was one howler, when the narrator stated that two buildings at JSC that are actually a 15 minute drive apart were a 10 minute walk apart, but otherwise, good stuff. (The two buildings were the NBL and Building 30 (the MCC). Andy Weir has been to JSC. He also has access to google maps. Zero excuse for not knowing those buildings are not on the same campus.) Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 10:12 AM (C/5yY) 159
Poul Anderson's short story Journeys End is a nifty piece of work too; kinda like the best Robert Silverberg story that Robert Silverberg never wrote. Yet another one due for a revisit.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:13 AM (q3u5l) 160
I have always preferred books that are mostly pictures.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 10:07 AM (wN/sj) --- Ezell's Handguns of the World. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:13 AM (ZOv7s) 161
He very clearly saw his role is guiding the US into decline and strategic irrelevance, and there's a pretty obvious parallel with settling barbarian tribes in the Empire, undermining its integrity.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s) There was a bit of a difference: their barbarians wanted to be Romans, ours.... Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (1Ff7Z) 162
Well it works better for dramatic purooses if they were
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (bXbFr) 163
Kindltot, I need to find more of the Coles Hambledon books. Tommy has a neat willingness to say irreverent things that appeals to me. In an earlier WWII novel, he privately refers to the violent green-flash explosive the Nazis are developing as "Poppo."
I suspect Hambledon appears in David McDaniel's roman a clef Man From U.N.C.L.E. novel, The Rainbow Affair. His name is never given, but when he (as a clearly important officer of British Intelligence) calls a young woman agent "you little minx," that sounds like him. The young woman agent is clearly Emma Peel, too. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (wzUl9) 164
"Nightfall" is great because it's so easy to visualize. Same with Clarke's "Nine Billion Names of God". Really adds to the story's punch. "All You Zombies" by Heinlein was a real mindblower when I read it. As was "Venus and the Seven Sexes" by personal fave SF author, William Tenn. I guess he's been forgotten now. Anyway, great conceptual mind-openers to the possibilities of SF. Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 10:15 AM (iJfKG) 165
The only rough patch was when a book became a favorite. "Santa Claus and his Elves", every night... for several weeks... weeks, I tell you.
**"Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooey" has entered the chat** Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 10:15 AM (qRla/) 166
I've been reading a lot of poetry lately and have found that reading the lines out loud makes a huge difference in appreciating the poems. Instead of treating the end of each line as a sentence, reading aloud and following the punctuation lets the lines flow naturally and allows the alliteration, rhymes and stresses to bring out qualities that silent reading misses. I did some dramatic readings in college and knew this but got out of the habit. Poe's The Raven, Tennyson's Ulysses (actually anything by Tennyson), Shakespeare's Sonnets take on new power and resonance when read aloud.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:16 AM (yTvNw) 167
Ezell's Handguns of the World.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:13 AM (ZOv7s) This is an excellent book that I can recommend to anyone interested in the subject with the proviso that it fails to have all the handguns in the world. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:17 AM (rbvCR) 168
But it doesnt make that big a difference
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:17 AM (bXbFr) 169
Poul Anderson's short story Journeys End is a nifty piece of work too; kinda like the best Robert Silverberg story that Robert Silverberg never wrote. Yet another one due for a revisit.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 *** The story about telepaths? Yes! Like Heinlein before him, Anderson had various depths to his work. PA was a hard-SF guy, but he could produce something like "Journey's End." Heinlein was a rational engineer, but then he gave us that haunting story about paranoia (or is it?), "They." Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:17 AM (wzUl9) 170
There was a bit of a difference: their barbarians wanted to be Romans, ours....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (1Ff7Z) --- No, I think they just wanted to get stuff from other people, same as now. Trump is like Aurelian, Restitutor Orbis if you will, crushing barbarian and usurper alike. Hillary is Zenobia of Palmyra. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (ZOv7s) 171
"every night...for several weeks..."
I'll bet Mrs Some Guy and I can still recite Sandra Boynton's But Not the Hippopotamus from memory. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (q3u5l) 172
I once tossed a DC comic book. It was so anti-business that I don't think I finished it. I remember throwing it across the room, then picking it up and dropping it into the trash.
IIRC, it was a Booster Gold annual that introduced a new team. Now I want to look it up. Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (8pIvk) 173
I love reading aloud to the kids. Go Dog Go was a favorite in our house as well, as well as Fox in Socks and (when they got a little older) My Mama Says.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (C/5yY) 174
Lehane is rarely an encouraging read
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:19 AM (bXbFr) 175
Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?
My folks told me they used to find me napping with my face in am open Encyclopedia Britannica, which seems to be pretty on brand with me, as nerdly as I am. Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:19 AM (/RHNq) 176
I remember when I first became aware of the anarchist-bombing movements of old. They made me irrationally angry. But they also made me smugly-satisfied, because that sort of foolishness was safely behind us, relegated to the dustbin of history. That was in the 2000's, when domestic troublemakers seemed far less relevant than home-grown ones. But now...glances at the headlines from last night...well, home-grown violence is back on the menu, it seems.
Posted by: Castle Guy Yes, the US had a flare up of its own in the early years of the twentieth century, including an assassination of a president and bombings of Wall Street. Many people had thought the left had burned itself out on political violence, but we saw it during the Vietnam era, and now in the early years of the twenty-first, it seems to be clearly on the upswing again. Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 10:20 AM (0U5gm) 177
87 ... "I wanted to have the book out by Bara's birthday at the end of July, but I don't know if I'll make it. Not that I have hordes of fans begging me for the book, anyway."
MP4, Well, you have at least one fan waiting for the new book. I have the first two in hardcover and will do the same for the new one. Please let us know when publication is near. Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:20 AM (yTvNw) 178
This is an excellent book that I can recommend to anyone interested in the subject with the proviso that it fails to have all the handguns in the world.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:17 AM (rbvCR) --- It also doesn't go past 1945. I was saddened to see that Ezell's update to Small Arms of the World did not have a section on South Korea. Poor Daewoo. Totally not fair that Rooftop Koreans should be snubbed in this way while every crap third world AK variant gets space. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:21 AM (ZOv7s) 179
. I did some dramatic readings in college and knew this but got out of the habit. Poe's The Raven, Tennyson's Ulysses (actually anything by Tennyson), Shakespeare's Sonnets take on new power and resonance when read aloud.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 *** Robert Browning's "My Last Duchess" and "The Laboratory," for instance. Both are dramatic monologues and meant to be read aloud. Both are very modern, too, in that we are not *told* anything but view it all through the narrator's words. We're not told that the anonymous visitor to the Duke's abode is horrified by his host; Browning simply has the Duke say, "Nay, we'll go down together, sir[,]" and we *see* the visitor shrinking back and the Duke throwing a companionable arm over his reluctant shoulders. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:22 AM (wzUl9) 180
> reading the lines out loud makes a huge difference in appreciating the poems
Yep agree. And not being afraid of rhythm. Too many people seem to be convinced that rhythm is gauche or something, so they try to recite poetry like it's prose. That would be appropriate for My Last Duchess, but Poe intended his poetry to be read aloud. Same for Tolkien. Sound and rhythm were just as important as meaning to him. Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 10:22 AM (C/5yY) Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:23 AM (8pIvk) 182
>>Lehane is rarely an encouraging read
Look at the movies based on his books, such as Mystic River and Gone, Baby Gone. Dark twists at the end. BLEAK. I have no interest in reading anymore of his books. Not my jam! Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 10:23 AM (X8xt3) 183
>>Just my opinion -- because I know how important that is to you all -- but "Nightfall" is either the best SF short ever or tied for first with "Johnny Mnemonic."
Re-read 'By the Waters of Bablyon' by Stephen Vincent Benet once a year. Holds up very well. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 10:23 AM (NcvvS) 184
It's a captivating story, rich in details and with memorable characters.
Posted by: Zoltan A Soldier of the Great War by Helprin is such a wonderful novel. I really need to reread it. It's been decades since my last read. Helprin's most recent novel, "The Oceans and the Stars: A Sea Story, A War Story. A Love Story," is actually very, very good tale that I highly recommend. Much in the tradition of Soldier of the Great War. Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:23 AM (/RHNq) 185
Lehane is rarely an encouraging read
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:19 AM (bXbFr) The first novel I read by Dennis Lehane was "Prayers for Rain". It was so good that I read everything of his I could find. I gave him room to cook and forgave his lesser writes. But, somewhere along the line, he lost me by no longer writing stories that I was interested in. Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 10:24 AM (iJfKG) 186
I have always preferred books that are mostly pictures.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 10:07 AM (wN/sj) With the sliding thingies? Those are the best! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 10:24 AM (WQAc4) 187
Thai police disguise as dance troupe to arrest drug suspect, seize methamphetamine pills
I did NOT have Thai Ladyboy Cops on my Bingo card. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:24 AM (/+uur) 188
172 I once tossed a DC comic book. It was so anti-business that I don't think I finished it. I remember throwing it across the room, then picking it up and dropping it into the trash.
IIRC, it was a Booster Gold annual that introduced a new team. Now I want to look it up. Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (8pIvk) There was an issue like that in the second JLI omnibus. (Which I read about a year ago) I don't think the new team ever appeared again. Certainly not in that collection, and none of the characters were ones I had heard about from other sources. Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 10:25 AM (3v7ra) 189
With the sliding thingies? Those are the best!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 10:24 AM (WQAc4) I like the books on a circle That you have to click to read the next page Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:25 AM (/+uur) 190
My Last Duchess is written in iambic pentameter with an aabb rhyme scheme, but don't recite it in iambic pentameter or you'll sound insane.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 10:25 AM (C/5yY) 191
As was "Venus and the Seven Sexes" by personal fave SF author, William Tenn. I guess he's been forgotten now.
Anyway, great conceptual mind-openers to the possibilities of SF. Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 *** I recall a few stories by Tenn. One takes place in a post-nuclear Armageddon world, where the whites are starving and ragged, barely surviving, while the Indian tribes have come back into their own and are living large off the land. Another involved advanced aliens involved in a war with another spacegoing race. The first come to Earth and ask to use our planet as a base. The whole thing winds up being like Korea or Vietnam: a disaster for the humans providing the base and the resources. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9) 192
So I was stuck in my car on Thursday in my worst commute home from work ever. And I was listening to James Clavell's 'Shogun' until...I had to turn it off.
The thing about audio books is you have no idea how long a chapter is, you can't easily skip ahead. This is important because there is a long, long sequence where the survivors of the boat crash and whining and cringing and repeating themselves over and over. Over and over. On the page, I can skip this or at least I can estimate how much more of this I have to endure by looking at the page or chapter. In an audiobook, the only way through is forward. Or to stop. Which is what I did. I do like James Clavell. But I will stick to paper for Shogun. The voice actor wasn't terrible, he was acting and playing the characters as written. I just...didn't like what was written. Bad VA is something else entirely. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 10:26 AM (xcxpd) 193
and yes, for self-editing, reading aloud is very useful for finding errors.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 10:28 AM (xcxpd) 194
My parents read books to us, including the Narnia series, James and the Giant Peach, and others. Loved to leave us hanging so that we would beg them to continue the next night. heh.
Don't remember my first book. Being the third child, there were always my siblings' books around. Several ones that are memorable: "Nothing Ever Happens on My Block" by Ellen Raskin, the Dr. Seuss books, and the Richard Scary books. Loved the silly ones!! Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 10:28 AM (X8xt3) 195
My Last Duchess is written in iambic pentameter with an aabb rhyme scheme, but don't recite it in iambic pentameter or you'll sound insane.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 *** No; I'd simply read it as if speaking the lines in a drama. "This grew; I gave commands; then all smiles stopped together." Insert sigh "There she stands as if alive. . . ." Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:28 AM (wzUl9) 196
Yes, the US had a flare up of its own in the early years of the twentieth century, including an assassination of a president and bombings of Wall Street.
Eric Burns' 1920: The Year That Made the Decade Roar opens with the Morgan Bank bombing and describes the (eventually fruitless) investigation as it tackles other events of the year - Ponzi, Prohibition, jazz, &c. Burns also wrote Infamous Scribblers, a good, engrossing history of newspapers and reporting from Colonial times through the post-George Washington era. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 10:29 AM (qRla/) 197
My mother would read books to us almost nightly.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2026 10:30 AM (erYkk) 198
Closest to upbeat I can remember seeing from Dennis Lehane is The Drop (both book and movie, but the movie is more so). If Mystic River and Shutter Island are just too dark to suit you, The Drop (film version with Tom Hardy, Noomi Rapace, and James Gandolfini and script by Lehane) is worth a look.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:30 AM (q3u5l) 199
At the risk of making some jealous, and on the subject of books with pictures, I must report that the other day I scored a pristine copy of W.W. Greener's The Gun and it's Development. Technically, what it has is a lot of 1910 era drawings of firearm actions along with text to describe how the various guns work and how each action was developed, building on previous inventor's work.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 10:31 AM (0U5gm) 200
The first novel I read by Dennis Lehane was "Prayers for Rain".
It was so good that I read everything of his I could find. I gave him room to cook and forgave his lesser writes. But, somewhere along the line, he lost me by no longer writing stories that I was interested in. Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 *** His early private-eye novels, including the basis for that superb movie Gone, Baby, Gone, seemed to be a new voice in detective fiction, the way Robert Parker was in 1973 with Spenser. Mystic River was fascinating too. Whenever I see one of his on the library shelf I grab it. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:31 AM (wzUl9) 201
I need to find more of the Coles Hambledon books. Tommy has a neat willingness to say irreverent things that appeals to me. In an earlier WWII novel, he privately refers to the violent green-flash explosive the Nazis are developing as "Poppo."
[ . . . ] Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (wzUl9) They are very much time capsules of life after the war. Coles was in British Intelligence and from some people I know who studied post-war Germany and France, the plots echo some things that were going on in Europe at the time. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:31 AM (rbvCR) 202
175 Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?
Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:19 AM (/RHNq) I have no particular memories of learning to read. Nor of reading with my parents. (I'm sure they did, a lot, but my memories start with the books I was reading myself.) One book that I remember seeing around the house, which probably deserves a mention; "There's a Monster at the End of This Book." It's a book about Grover (from Sesame Street) begging the reader not to finish the book. It all built to a twist ending, which I'm sure you all can guess. There's a question; did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here? Since teaching young kids was supposedly the mission statement for that show... Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 10:32 AM (3v7ra) 203
My Last Duchess is written in iambic pentameter with an aabb rhyme scheme, but don't recite it in iambic pentameter or you'll sound insane.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 *** Though, since the Duke clearly IS insane . . . Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:32 AM (wzUl9) 204
As was "Venus and the Seven Sexes" by personal fave SF author, William Tenn. I guess he's been forgotten now.
Anyway, great conceptual mind-openers to the possibilities of SF. Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 *** I recall a few stories by Tenn. One takes place in a post-nuclear Armageddon world, where the whites are starving and ragged, barely surviving, while the Indian tribes have come back into their own and are living large off the land. Another involved advanced aliens involved in a war with another spacegoing race. The first come to Earth and ask to use our planet as a base. The whole thing winds up being like Korea or Vietnam: a disaster for the humans providing the base and the resources. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9) Several years ago, one of the boutique SF printers publish all of his stuff in a two volume hardcover set. That was a pretty great find for me and I bought them immediately. Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 10:33 AM (iJfKG) 205
Closest to upbeat I can remember seeing from Dennis Lehane is The Drop (both book and movie, but the movie is more so). If Mystic River and Shutter Island are just too dark to suit you, The Drop (film version with Tom Hardy, Noomi Rapace, and James Gandolfini and script by Lehane) is worth a look.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 *** Not sure I've read The Drop! Shutter Island is the one I was thinking of that left me a little cold. The ultimate twist/revelation seemed a bit of a letdown. Still, his prose is always readable. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:34 AM (wzUl9) 206
As a wee one, I adored books by Aileen Fisher. They were poetry, if I recall, and the illustrations were lovely.
I also fondly remember one called Where Does the Butterfly Go When it Rains, by May Garelick. The illustrations were beautiful watercolors in blue shades. These gave me an early appreciation for poetry and art. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 10:35 AM (h7ZuX) 207
There's a question; did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here? Since teaching young kids was supposedly the mission statement for that show... Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 *** Sesame Street came along too late for me; I was in high school. I recall reading the plaudits for it in TV Guide then, but never saw an episode until later. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:36 AM (wzUl9) 208
I was always a Shakespeare fan, but the first time I saw a performance was a revelation. The language was so precise, the words conveying the meaning perfectly. Don't know if this description makes sense. It is like how poetry comes alive when read aloud.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 10:37 AM (kJmSS) 209
Yes, the US had a flare up of its own in the early years of the twentieth century, including an assassination of a president and bombings of Wall Street. Many people had thought the left had burned itself out on political violence, but we saw it during the Vietnam era, and now in the early years of the twenty-first, it seems to be clearly on the upswing again.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 10:20 AM (0U5gm) ====== The Soviets were busy organizing Communist cells in the US during the 1930s. Deep roots for future treason. When I was younger, Whitaker Chamber's book "Witness" made a big impression on me. Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 10:37 AM (rj6Yv) 210
I could be wrong, but The Drop reads kind of like Lehane doing a novelization of his film script. If you've not seen the flick, it's worth it just for Gandolfini (his last performance, I think); everything in it just works IMHO.
And yes, the dog lives. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:38 AM (q3u5l) 211
One person who (re)awakened my interest in poetry in general and reading aloud is Malcolm Guite. His YT videos are a joy to watch and listen to. Whether he is discussing and quoting LOTR prose, his own poetry, the Faerie Queene, or Coleridge and Wordsworth, his enthusiasm and insights are delightful and enlightening.
I'm reading his Galahad and the Grail which just came out in April. It's the first volume of four, an epic ballad of the King Arthur legends. I regard this as a modern masterpiece, on the same level as Tennyson's Idylls of the King or Chesterton's Ballad of the White Horse. I was smart enough to get the audio recording of him reading the poem. I read a section silently, read it again out loud, then listen to his reading of the same part. It's like adding another rainbows-worth of color to my appreciation. Yes, I am enthusiastic about it. The next volume is due out in November. Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:39 AM (yTvNw) 212
I am with Wolfus, PBS kid shows were after my early years.
Though a painful memory was watching Electric Company in the worst hangover ever while in Germany and laughing yet was painful to do that. Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 10:39 AM (Ia/+0) 213
Re-read 'By the Waters of Bablyon' by Stephen Vincent Benet once a year. Holds up very well.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 *** His free-verse poem "Metropolitan Nightmare" is a classic too! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:40 AM (wzUl9) 214
My lil sis Rhonda (RIP) loved Sesame and New Zoo Review (yuk).
There was another bad kiddie show she watched I cannot remember. Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:42 AM (/+uur) 215
FDR let the NKVD run their surveillance in the USA during the war.
—- I’m reading the autobiography of G. Gordon Liddy. Interesting cat for sure. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:43 AM (+Oqoq) 216
The YouTube algorithm has sent me to a The channel of one Malcolm Guite. He's an English poet and essayist who looks like a Tolkien character.
The man muses about literature, particularly Tolkien, culture, history, traditions and Christianity. I find the man fascinating. Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2026 10:44 AM (wBzSI) 217
I don't read as much poetry as I ought to, but I'm partial to Dana Gioia's stuff.
Check out "Summer Storm" and "Unsaid" in the Poems tab at danagioia.com Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:45 AM (q3u5l) 218
There's a question; did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here? Since teaching young kids was supposedly the mission statement for that show...
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 Didn't watch it. Plenty of other shows, besides, I was older anyway. Seemed too ghetto for me and city centric. My younger brother watched The Electric Company. Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:47 AM (1Ff7Z) 219
The most accessible Lewis & Clark journal edition is probably the Bernard DeVoto version. Reasonably complete for a good overview.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:47 AM (+Oqoq) 220
"Nothing Ever Happens on My Block" by Ellen Raskin
Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 10:28 AM (X8xt3) That's still one of my favorites! I am going to be contrary, now. I despise Richard Scarry. Hate those. Don't like the drawings, and they're just a constant frenzy of activity that unsettles me. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 10:50 AM (h7ZuX) 221
Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel seems to be one of the earlier books I recall. And Green Eggs and Ham. I understand “Dr. Seuss” has in recent years run afoul of the political czars in academia. It won’t be a problem too much longer though, younger leftists won’t be able, much less allowed, to read.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:51 AM (+Oqoq) 222
>>His free-verse poem "Metropolitan Nightmare" is a classic too!
Never really got into his poetry, though I have a collection of his poetry & prose work. His short stories were excellent; another of them is 'Into Egypt'. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 10:51 AM (NcvvS) 223
There's a question; did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here? Since teaching young kids was supposedly the mission statement for that show...
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 10:32 AM (3v7ra) 100% here. Everyday as a kid. I also learned to fear the inner city. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 10:51 AM (594J6) 224
The drop is ol
But theres only so much nihilsm one can subject your self to And i say that as someone that reas the whole red queem seeies by gomez jurado Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:52 AM (bXbFr) 225
Ruocchio marlowe series
Posted by: Miguel cervantes I read all 4500 pages of that series. Good Lord, Marlowe is a drama queen. He tells you on page one of the series that he commits genocide against the Cielcin, and then Ruocchio spends the next 7 books justifying the genocide. Trust me, Mr. Author, by the end of Book 3, we were all on board with killing the Cielcin. If anyone ever had genocide rightfully in their future, it was the Cielcin. GET ON WITH IT, MARLOWE, AND STOP EMOTING!!! Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:53 AM (/RHNq) 226
Series spsnish noir
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:53 AM (bXbFr) 227
I went to a private school for high school that was K-12. On the first day of class in the Study Hall period they announced the Elementary School library was looking for volunteers to give up study hall and "work" there. My hand shot up. I did it every year.
Sure, it was Richard Scarry, Henry and Beezus, and Pippi Longstocking, but still. It endeared me to thrill of possibilities you get when there's a large collection of books, the scent of books and the value of being exposed to a wide range of subjects and authors, even if it just teaches you what you don't like. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 10:54 AM (2Ez/1) 228
Yeah just fire up the blasters if any alien race needed killing
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:54 AM (bXbFr) 229
I've never met an 'early reader' who actually learned by the phonics system that schools used. When you're on a parent's lap, it's all whole-word recognition, and then you get the alphabet. Nevertheless, whenever high horses are mounted and stallions rear up to paw the sky, Scott Foresman's partisans step to the front of the classroom and start rubbing those damned sticks together. Pee-aitch says fuh-fuh-fuh.
We don't like The Anti-Phonics because that's what they have now. I remember when Big Phonix was The System. Nothing has put off more prodigies from the public school process than the grinding drudgery of having to practice the letter-noises with all those illiterates, when you could read anything the teacher could the day you got there. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 24, 2026 10:56 AM (zdLoL) 230
I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.
I have done that once. It was "Shutter Island." The ending was so dark and depressing I did not wish to share the book with anyone else by donating it to the used bookstore, thus ruining their day (the day they finished the book). Posted by: Lizzy I read Caleb Carr's novel "The Alienist" in 1994, and promptly tossed it on a sewer grate, poured whiskey on it, and burned it. God, I hated that book. The fact that I was struggling in law school at the time while also separated from my first ex-wife may have had something to do with the extreme after of book burning. But, it was indeed an uninteresting story badly told. That's the only book I've ever destroyed. Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:57 AM (/RHNq) 231
216 ... "The YouTube algorithm has sent me to a The channel of one Malcolm Guite. He's an English poet and essayist who looks like a Tolkien character.
The man muses about literature, particularly Tolkien, culture, history, traditions and Christianity. I find the man fascinating." Northernlurker, So glad you found Guite's YT channel. I've been raving about him for a while. He also does a lot of interviews on other YT channels for the Wade Center and Christian groups even when not discussing religion specifically. All are worth listening to. And for fun, check out him reading his "Your Poetry is Jamming my Machine" on the Steve Bell channel. It has the vibe of a Beatnik reading his poems in a coffee shop circa 1959. Brief but a lot of fun. To make him about perfect, he smokes a pipe and has white hair and beard. My kind of guy. Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:58 AM (yTvNw) 232
Shutter Island is the one I was thinking of that left me a little cold. The ultimate twist/revelation seemed a bit of a letdown. Still, his prose is always readable.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:34 AM (wzUl9) I wish there were two version of Shutter Island. Because I was enjoying the story before the twist. But the more I've read it, the more the overall story also works...so I want it both ways. Played straight and as self-protecting delusion. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 10:58 AM (xcxpd) 233
I didn't mind The Alienist, though it could have used an editor and I never cared to re-read it. I know Carr did a sequel, but I was never enthused enough to pick it up. He also did a Holmes pastiche which gets a lot of plaudits, but I thought it was a poor attempt at copying Conan Doyle.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 11:02 AM (qRla/) Posted by: And stay in school at May 24, 2026 11:02 AM (2Ez/1) 235
Loved Radio Reader, loved Dick Estell- and he did NOT have a gravelly voice, at all. Brian Keith had a gravelly voice. Dick Estell had a voice similar, but in a slightly lower register, to Mr. Peterson on the Bob Newhart Show.
Posted by: Job at May 24, 2026 11:04 AM (Dz7wk) 236
One of the things I did now and then when working at the bookstore was stripping unsold mass-market paperbacks. Cover came off and was returned for credit. The book itself was ripped in half down the spine and tossed. Hated it, but...
There's a story about someone applying for a bookstore job; he's told during the interview to strip a few paperbacks. He just couldn't do it, and he didn't get the job. Orwell's essay "Bookshop Memories" should probably be required reading for anyone wanting to work in a bookstore or library. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:04 AM (q3u5l) 237
To make him about perfect, he smokes a pipe and has white hair and beard. My kind of guy.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:58 AM I forgot to mention he also talks about pipe smoking. Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2026 11:05 AM (wBzSI) 238
OK, folks, time to call it a morning and take the pups for a walk before the rain starts.
Hope you all have a lovely day. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 11:08 AM (qRla/) 239
It taught me to not try to carry 7 pies at once down the stairs.
Posted by: Sesame Street Life at May 24, 2026 11:08 AM (Dz7wk) 240
"It taught me to not try to carry 7 pies at once down the stairs."
And they say educational tv ain't educational. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:11 AM (q3u5l) 241
I can't recall exactly when I learned to read, but one of my earliest memories is of the headlines of George Reeves' death, which occurred when I was 4. I loved the Superman show.
Posted by: Darles Chickens at May 24, 2026 11:11 AM (vOKvj) 242
Nothing has put off more prodigies from the public school process than the grinding drudgery of having to practice the letter-noises with all those illiterates, when you could read anything the teacher could the day you got there.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 24, 2026 10:56 AM (zdLoL) King Sejong Joseon disagreed with this point of view, as do I. He, because he needed something easier to learn than identifying whole words in Chinese characters, and I was taught by my parents and siblings what letters were, what noises they made, and how to sound out new words. Back when literacy was much higher in the US, teaching was done by both phonetics and then by word identification to build speed. Now they just do word ID, and that is pointless for most students who don't have any context to build the words identification on. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:12 AM (rbvCR) 243
The other danger to reading to young sprogs (the first being obsession with One Book Dear God Can We Read Something Else) is making stuff up. The sprog doesn't know it was made up. It counts as A Story and when said sprog says "read it again!" you have to frantically try to remember how you even started this made up thing.
Not that this ever happened to me. Authors have it rough, I tell you! Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 11:13 AM (vAQDP) 244
Not exactly book based but if you want to hear the power of a single voice narrating a story effectively, listen to some old radio dramas. One voice and some sound effects could be very powerful. A good book narrator can do the same.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 11:14 AM (yTvNw) Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:14 AM (rbvCR) 246
Still struggling with 'The Brothers Karamazov'. I find it extremely tedious.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 11:15 AM (XeU6L) 247
Now they just do word ID
I'm not talking about what "they" do. Of course we will be opposed to what They are doing. My mother taught me to read, and it was not by phonics drill with sliding cardboard sticks. My father taught me a couple of marketable trades. After you have those things, you are ready to begin your education. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 24, 2026 11:19 AM (zdLoL) 248
That was something clearly evident between the draftees from World War One and World War Two.
Formal entrance examinstions, IQ and aptitude testing in particular were first used in a systematic way for the first world war. Illiteracy had increased dramatically, they found, in 1940. In large part because of whack job theories of teaching people how to read. They also found a lot of diseases attributable to malnutrition, because of the previous decade of the economic depression. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 11:19 AM (+Oqoq) 249
My wife had M.S. I read to her. I read my favorites. Slowing down really made the whole thing quite enjoyable.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:21 AM (qFwJc) 250
I admit that I quit 'The Brothers Karamazov' about 40 pages from the ending. Just didn't care anymore.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (qFwJc) 251
Mike Hammer,
I've not yet read Karamazov (on the list for whenever I finish Bleak House), but I've read Crime & Punishment and (eons ago) some of his shorter stuff. What translation are you reading? I've tried some of the newer Pevear/Volokhonsky translations but they don't seem to me to read as well as Garnett and some of the others. If you're using P/V, maybe try a different translator? Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (q3u5l) 252
Formal entrance examinstions, IQ and aptitude testing in particular were first used in a systematic way for the first world war.
Illiteracy had increased dramatically, they found, in 1940. In large part because of whack job theories of teaching people how to read. They also found a lot of diseases attributable to malnutrition, because of the previous decade of the economic depression. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 *** You mean illiteracy was still a thing because of poor teaching almost a hundred years ago??? I thought it was mostly since the Sixties. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9) 253
did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here?
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 10:32 AM (3v7ra) - Romper Room. Wonderama. Bozo. Three Stooges. Looney Tunes, Rocky & Bullwinkle, and practically every other cartoon out there. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (adINt) 254
I admit that I quit 'The Brothers Karamazov' about 40 pages from the ending. Just didn't care anymore.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 *** I got through Crime and Punishment. Don't ask me how. It was fascinating until the murder, and rolled fast downhill after that. Well, in part, it was the Sniffle Scare times and I had little else to read. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:24 AM (wzUl9) 255
I do a lot of reading on Ye Olde Android smartphone and much of it here on said Smart Military Blog™. One thing I have came to appreciate is the effortless ability to expand my vocabulary.
Whenever one my esteemed hordemates introduces a new word into one our many thoughtful discussions regarding human mammary glands like "cromulent" or "crepuscular" all I have to do is press it with an index finger for a couple of seconds and boom, instant dictionary. You know about the cup sizes? Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1) Posted by: one hour sober at May 24, 2026 11:25 AM (J4Dwc) 257
The other danger to reading to young sprogs (the first being obsession with One Book Dear God Can We Read Something Else) is making stuff up. The sprog doesn't know it was made up. It counts as A Story and when said sprog says "read it again!" you have to frantically try to remember how you even started this made up thing.
Not that this ever happened to me. Authors have it rough, I tell you! Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 *** Sabrina, you are about the only other person I've known besides me who uses the word "sprog" at all, let alone to describe small humans. It was British Navy slang for a new recruit, I think; didn't Forester use it in the Hornblower books? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (wzUl9) 258
>>Romper Room.
Came on just about the time we had to leave for school. Might have it on for a day off or during the summer. Didn't do a lot for me. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (NcvvS) 259
I suppose it’s all relative. The point is that there was a steep decline in the percentage due to “modern” ideas on language instruction.
Mathematics has been around formally for thousands of years. I doubt there is any new ground being broken on how to teach it. But, that doesn’t stop them from trying. Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (+Oqoq) 260
What translation are you reading? I've tried some of the newer Pevear/Volokhonsky translations but they don't seem to me to read as well as Garnett and some of the others. If you're using P/V, maybe try a different translator?
Posted by: Just Some Guy ------ Garnett Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 11:27 AM (XeU6L) 261
>>Romper Room.
Came on just about the time we had to leave for school. Might have it on for a day off or during the summer. Didn't do a lot for me. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (NcvvS) - So you never do what's right and always do everything wrong. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 11:28 AM (8schn) 262
Lovely post, Sabrina. Thank you.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2026 11:30 AM (A5RD0) 263
I was a very poor reader until later in life. Mom and Dad did not read to me. Older brother and sister read "The Cat in the Hat" and "One fish two fish red fish blue fish," but that was all.
I remember struggling with "The Anatomy of Revolution" (Crane Brinton) during the Summer before AP US History. I bought it a few years ago and it was an amazingly easy read. Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:30 AM (qFwJc) 264
Not that I have hordes of fans begging me for the book, anyway.
Well, you have fans of The Horde, for whatever that's worth. Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 11:30 AM (vTZFs) 265
Was looking up Romoer Room, feel silly I believed she had a real Magic Mirror
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 11:30 AM (Ia/+0) 266
Mathematics has been around formally for thousands of years. I doubt there is any new ground being broken on how to teach it. But, that doesn’t stop them from trying.
Posted by: Common Tater ------- Ah.'New Math' Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 11:31 AM (XeU6L) 267
You can forget your Maths, but your vocabulary only increases over time.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:31 AM (qFwJc) 268
I was and still am pretty decent with Old Math.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:31 AM (qFwJc) 269
Mike Hammer at 260
Oh, well. The Michael Katz translation's supposed to be good too, but haven't sampled that. My copy's a Garnett too. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (q3u5l) 270
>>So you never do what's right and always do everything wrong.
There are those who would agree with that. More seriously, it was just entertainment. Probably got more out of Captain Kangaroo. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (NcvvS) 271
Romper Room.
Came on just about the time we had to leave for school. Might have it on for a day off or during the summer. Didn't do a lot for me. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 *** Captain Kangaroo was it for me. One morning they said they were going to have the big South American rodent, the capybara, on the show. I had to leave for school before they showed it. Dang. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (wzUl9) 272
In The Dynamite Club, John Merriman traces the history of how leftist politics turned to terror in the western world.
- Barbara Tuchmann's The Proud Tower examines the twenty- five years before WWI. The book is arranged thematically. While I enjoyed the book generally, her chapter on anarchism is brilliant. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (ndZc7) 273
I was fed a steady diet of Popeye, Sylvester the Cat, and Bugs Bunny before school in the mornings. LOL Elementary school started at the civilized hour of 9:00 am.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (qFwJc) 274
A kid could learn a lot from Rocky & Bullwinkle, Mr. Peabody and Sherman, and The Fractured Fairy Tales.
Not that I would know anything about that. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 11:34 AM (2Ez/1) 275
Was looking up Romoer Room, feel silly I believed she had a real Magic Mirror
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 *** When the hostess would list the names of the kids in the audience ("I see Billy, and Annette, and Chuck; I see Carl and John and Betty . . ."), she *never* said mine. Talk about a letdown. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:35 AM (wzUl9) 276
Elementary school started at the civilized hour of 9:00 am.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 *** It was 8:45 here, and I had a ten-minute walk to the school building, so I had to be out by 8:30 or so. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:36 AM (wzUl9) 277
New Math and Common Core Math were probably designed to make certain that nobody got through grade school able to do simple arithmetic. Did some work with the grandtots during the Covid idiocies, helping them with math; some of the Common Core stuff seemed needlessly confusing.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:36 AM (q3u5l) 278
It was a plot by the NAACP to make sure that even white kids couldn't do math.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:38 AM (qFwJc) 279
Math is simply a foreign language. You have to speak it every day to maintain proficiency.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 11:38 AM (2Ez/1) 280
Romper Room.
Came on just about the time we had to leave for school. Might have it on for a day off or during the summer. Didn't do a lot for me. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (NcvvS) - * So you never do what's right and always do everything wrong. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 *** "Do-Bees" and "Don't-Bees"? To show you how naive I was, when the Doobie Brothers first popped up on Top 40, I thought their name was a play on the "Do-Bees" from Romper Room! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:39 AM (wzUl9) 281
A kid at work was talking about how much Sponge Bob means to him. I scoffed, went on a rant. He almost cried
We watched stuff that at least had a lesson to it and didn't idolize stupidity. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 11:39 AM (594J6) 282
I'm not talking about what "they" do. Of course we will be opposed to what They are doing. My mother taught me to read, and it was not by phonics drill with sliding cardboard sticks.
My father taught me a couple of marketable trades. After you have those things, you are ready to begin your education. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 24, 2026 11:19 AM (zdLoL) The PURPOSE of an alphabet is to simplify identification of written words and do it on a phonetic level, easily identifiable and interpretable. It is the base skill of reading, and is why alphabetic systems are easier to read than syllabaries and much easier than ideograms. Even you sound out new words to match them against what you already know. Without an alphabet language is code without a real world key, and fluency is essential To the early student all words are new and complex. To insist they learn the way you did is beyond the patience of most kids who haven't learned reading is fun. Instead it turns it into frustrating experience in failure that turns them off from reading because it is too hard for a 5 YO kid to memorize 750 whole words for basic vocabulary, even though they have the words. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:39 AM (rbvCR) 283
Speak it every day...
Ain't that the truth. Started out as a math major as an undergrad, and switched to English after Integral Calculus. Just didn't wanna do this any more. If I had to solve a simple quadratic now without looking up the formula, I'd be in big trouble. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:40 AM (q3u5l) 284
>>Elementary school started at the civilized hour of 9:00 am.
Same here, but in the early grades, it was a twenty-minute walk to school, and Romper Room started at 8:30. Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:40 AM (NcvvS) 285
I had to leave for school before they showed it. Dang.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius I understand elementary schools in our area can't mark you down as "Tardy" anymore 'cause of fellow students abusing you as a 'tard. Posted by: Auspex at May 24, 2026 11:41 AM (Y8DZL) 286
*We watched stuff that at least had a lesson to it and didn't idolize stupidity.*
---- Like the value of a ball peen hammer. Posted by: Moe Howard at May 24, 2026 11:41 AM (2Ez/1) 287
286 *We watched stuff that at least had a lesson to it and didn't idolize stupidity.*
---- Like the value of a ball peen hammer. Posted by: Moe Howard at May 24, 2026 11:41 AM (2Ez/1) ---- Moe: "Remind me to kill you later." Curly: "I'll make a note of it!" Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 11:42 AM (Ucgf4) 288
To the early student all words are new and complex. To insist they learn the way you did is beyond the patience of most kids who haven't learned reading is fun. Instead it turns it into frustrating experience in failure that turns them off from reading because it is too hard for a 5 YO kid to memorize 750 whole words for basic vocabulary, even though they have the words.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 *** I'm reminded of my ninth-grade English teacher (a universally-hated Japanese woman) who insisted we memorize a list of all the prepositions in English "so you will recognize them." Her teaching style, e.g., referring to students sarcastically as "you bright lights," probably turned a lot of my classmates off from reading as a fun activity. And made them think of grammar as a mysterious, insoluble code. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:43 AM (wzUl9) 289
Pictures of planes, ships, spacecraft, maps and people will never convert to audio. For non-fiction that means 95% of the money I spend on reading will remain books and mostly physical.
The virtual reading from audible has improved enough that if I can make it through the free sample, I've not had to bale on a book because of narration. Still has some issues with technical terms and sometimes even reading dates. I do have a list of favorite narrators so their books get added to wishlists easier than most titles. Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at May 24, 2026 11:44 AM (KaHlS) 290
The educational 'experts' were all unproven theory and no sense of reality. Ignoring hundreds of years of educating young people, successfully, to read using phonics, they came up with their whole word BS. The same with the 'new math'. My grandfather never made it through high school, taught himself higher math, including calculus. When I showed him the new math crap foisted on us in grade school he expanded my vocabulary with his colorful opinions about the method.
My skepticism about self-styled 'experts' began in 4th grade. Sixty-odd years later Anthony Fauci was just the latest reason to distrust, preferably ignore, experts. Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 11:44 AM (yTvNw) 291
Which reminds me of yet another book on the Amazing Colossal To-Be-Read Pile. British horror writer Ramsey Campbell did a book called Six Stooges and Counting, all about the Stooges. No ebook available, darn it; paperback and hardcover from PS Publishing in the UK.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:45 AM (q3u5l) 292
My father was a bookkeeper and a kind of "computer" in the old sense of the word as "a worker who computes." He tried to get me to understand arithmetic by buying me endless workbooks. They simply extended school for me, which I found boring to start with. To this day the phrase "mixed nuts" makes me think with a shudder of "mixed numbers" from those workbooks.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:47 AM (wzUl9) 293
You mean illiteracy was still a thing because of poor teaching almost a hundred years ago??? I thought it was mostly since the Sixties.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9) I have some primers from the 1890's and early 1900s that I have no clue what they were trying to do, and some of Grandma's Normal School primers were a bit out there, and she was learning to be a teacher in 1920. We have been teaching English reading for 200 years plus and some things work better than other. Like any skill, basics, practice and repetition for a payoff are what works. That applies to reading, math, typing, or even being an apprentice tin-smith. Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:48 AM (rbvCR) 294
*To this day the phrase "mixed nuts" makes me think with a shudder of "mixed numbers" from those workbooks.*
+++ Sitting right here, boss. Posted by: The Reals, The imaginaries, The rationals, and The Irrationals at May 24, 2026 11:51 AM (2Ez/1) 295
Picked a movie from a book to watch
A Bridge too Far Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 11:52 AM (Ia/+0) 296
I have finally pulled Gene Wolfe's Long Sun tetralogy off the shelf, and have just started the third book.
It did not grab me on the first couple of tries, the way the New Sun tetralogy did, but now that I am immersed in the world, I keep wanting to go back there and see what happens next. Wolfe is a remarkable writer, and what he constructs is not like any other I've encountered. Posted by: Splunge at May 24, 2026 11:52 AM (JpUeg) 297
CBD up early.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:53 AM (NcvvS) Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (qFwJc) 299
And it's off to create even more chaos here at Casa Some Guy.
Thanks for the thread, Sabrina. Have a good one, gang. Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (q3u5l) 300
I'm off to run some errands and do Author Stuff. You've been a lovely Book Thread audience! Tune in next month to see what deranged topic I pick for your entertainment and erudition ...
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (vAQDP) 301
I have the Jackson Citizen Patriot from the day my grandfathers passing was announced. He was a judge in the area.
You could print every story on the back page where his obit is continued and they would be true. Johny can't read, prisons over crouded, union protest.. blah blah except one. A murder of a 4 year old kid where the perp was loose and the locals had "armed up and were hunting" the guy. Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 11:55 AM (594J6) 302
Thanks for the Book Thread, Sabrina. Catch y'all later.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:57 AM (NcvvS) 303
Yes. Thank you.
Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 11:57 AM (594J6) 304
Time for me to head out and do some chores too. Thanks to Sabrina and all of you for a solid Book Thread!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 12:00 PM (wzUl9) 305
*To this day the phrase "mixed nuts" makes me think with a shudder of "mixed numbers" from those workbooks.*
+++ Sitting right here, boss. Posted by: The Reals, The imaginaries, The rationals, and The Irrationals at May 24, 2026 *** * Runs shrieking into the rain * Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 12:00 PM (wzUl9) 306
I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.
I have done that once. It was "Shutter Island." The ending was so dark and depressing I did not wish to share the book with anyone else by donating it to the used bookstore, thus ruining their day (the day they finished the book). Posted by: Lizzy When I was broadening my SF horizons, my friends told me to read Dune. Being poor at the time, and wanting to get a shorter taste of Mr. Herbert's work, I picked up the paperback of his latest novel, The White Plague. It was fairly good...right up until the middle when one of the characters recites a blasphemous rhyme that took me right out of the story.. I skipped to the end, found it uninspired, and prompt ly threw it in the trash. I have never picked up anything by him since. Posted by: goozer at May 24, 2026 12:01 PM (BAs8w) 307
Picked a movie from a book to watch
A Bridge too Far Posted by: Skip There was actually a good show on PBS yesterday about the daylight crossing of the Waal by row boats. I thought they might bury the essential futility of the crossing given the lack of follow through but they covered it pretty well. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (ndZc7) 308
You can forget your Maths, but your vocabulary only increases over time.
Posted by: no one of any consequense ------ Would that this was true. A common problem among those of my age demographic is recollection of words (and names). One knows the word that one wishes to use, but can't conjure it up. It is very frustrating. As my BIL says, 'There's nothing wrong with my memory, it's my recollection that is bad'. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (XeU6L) 309
*To this day the phrase "mixed nuts" makes me think with a shudder of "mixed numbers" from those workbooks.*
+++ Sitting right here, boss. Posted by: The Reals, The imaginaries, The rationals, and The Irrationals at May 24, 2026 *** * Runs shrieking into the rain * Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius ------------ Transcendentals Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:05 PM (XeU6L) 310
Mike Hammer, the medical term is "aphasia" and it can also be induced by medicines that help inhibit nerve pain. A bud of mine was having problems and was getting concerned about maybe losing his marbles, and his MD said one of the Rx he was taking had that side effect in how it blunted nerve responses for pain management.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 12:12 PM (rbvCR) 311
I read "We Have Not a Government" last week-- by George Van Cleve.
About the U.S. under The Articles of Confederation. It was a hot mess & there was a lot more to it than Shays' Rebellion. Kind of an operational definition of "Balkanization." Both the northern states AND the southern states were interested in secession-- getting an early start on it, as it were. Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:16 PM (RCjYY) 312
"As was 'Venus and the Seven Sexes' by personal fave SF author, William Tenn. I guess he's been forgotten now."
Not totally forgotten, Naturalfake, I have his complete collection in paperback and also in the two-volume NESFA hardback collection ("(Immodest Proposals," and "Here Comes Civilization") which is still available. I'm also pretty sure I have his Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction dedication issue (that was a thing way back when) with a somewhat caricatured picture of him on the cover. But I take your point. There were lots of really good SF authors from the 40s through 60s or 70s who didn't publish much except in the pulps, or who have fallen into obscurity but deserve much better. Avram Davidson and R.A. Lafferty are among those that are brought up here frequently by several posters who are fans. H. Beam Piper was another who dropped out of public view one his death but went through a revival a few decades back. That's one of the reasons I sought out and downloaded pdfs of SF magazines from the golden age, it provides me with interesting stories by very good writers who, for one reason or another, don't get reprinted or anthologized. Posted by: Pope John 20th at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (7ZRgl) 313
Mike Hammer, the medical term is "aphasia" and it can also be induced by medicines that help inhibit nerve pain. A bud of mine was having problems and was getting concerned about maybe losing his marbles, and his MD said one of the Rx he was taking had that side effect in how it blunted nerve responses for pain management.
Posted by: Kindltot ------ I know. Having experienced a mild stroke *and* a subdural hematoma, when I say or do something particullary dumb, I say to people, 'Hey, don't blame me, I'm brain-damaged'. That ought to borne in mind here also... Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:37 PM (XeU6L) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:17 PM (XeU6L) 315
I don't have specific memories of my grandmother reading to me, but she must have, because I do remember her reading to my six year younger baby sister, tracing the words with her gnarled index finger. (She was terribly afflicted with Rheumatoid Arthritis) I know it rubbed off though, because I have very specific memory of first reading.
It was Feb of '46, a couple of months before my fifth birthday. I had got a new Batman comic book that day, and my mother promised that she would read it to.me at bedtime. My parents had another couple over for dinner, and then they stayed and sat around in the living room talking. My Dad was one month home from the Pacific (Seabee) so I'm sure it was interesting. When I asked my mother to come up and read, she put me off, saying, "Tomorrow." After she tucked me in and went back downstairs, I got up, turned on the light and pulled out the new book, and surprised my self by knowing what most of the words in the balloons were, and could figure out the others between sounding them out and context. I never asked her to read to.me again. Posted by: buddhaha at May 24, 2026 02:36 PM (mSL0+) 316
Then, I went to.school.
I wish that.I had had teachers in 1st and 2nd grade like Wolfus and TP. I was terribly (undiagnosed) nearsighted, so.I couldn't read the blackboard. Then, when handed new instructional material -aimed a new non-readers - I would polish it off almost immediately. Between those two, I wasn't able to respond to questions from the teacher about a passage from a book that I'd finished a month ago, or something written on the blackboard. I also got into fights with the two school bullies on a regular basis. I was a problem child, relegated to the "slow" group and mostly ignored. It wasn't until we moved at the end of second grade where a new teacher, uninfluenced by teacher's break room gossip, noticed that I wasn't stupid, just nearsighted. Posted by: buddhaha at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (mSL0+) 317
I used to read to my younger brother and sister, and, later my own children. I missed that time in my life, so when my brother was in nursing care, and not able to sustain much reading, I started reading from The Fellowship of the Rings.
We both enjoyed it immensely. Pick an older novel for this. In earlier times, these books were written to be read aloud. The story comes alive, when you speak the words on the page. Posted by: Linda S Fox at May 25, 2026 06:41 AM (7Rs+y) Daily Tech News 24 May 2026Top Story
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