lol: Adulterous Absconder Mark Sanford Announces He'll Be Challenging Trump or Something

Take a hike, mac.

Sanford declared his candidacy in a lengthy thread on Twitter, where he stated that he considers "our nation's debt, deficits, and spending" to be a major issue, and also accused the president having "ruled out action on the very things that drive spending and accumulated debt."

...

In the weeks leading up to Sanford making his decision to run against President Trump, the president mocked the former governor and the other two challengers by calling them the "Three Stooges," while also referring to Sanford as "Mr. Appalachian Trail." This was in reference to Sanford's affair, where he disappeared for a week in June of 2009 as he traveled to Argentina; while he was missing, one of his spokesmen claimed that the reason for his disappearance was that he was "hiking the Appalachian Trail."

Erick Erickson, who I refuse to link, if of course pretty keen on Sanford's candidacy. Erickson declares that because Sanford's "issues played out in public," that someone absolves him of them. He also says:

Sanford, like the President, has a dubious marital history, but the Presidentís team cannot really go after it. Should they try, Sanford should acknowledge it and say he suspects the nation would rather a President who might take a hike than take to Twitter.
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I need the Holy Cons to render a firm and lasting opinion on this: are moral lapses objectively salient, or are they only salient to the extent an opponent can "go after it"? The later claim -- that an objective moral failing doesn't matter unless someone can run political ads about it -- is, what's the term the Holy Cons never weary of?, moral relativism.

Is this all "Moral Objectivism" actually is? Something to impose on people you oppose for political reasons, while offering moral relativism for people you like?

How is that any different than the liberal media's double standards?

More below:


And speaking of Moral Relativism, let's take a look back at a post from January. Jonah Goldberg had been in a particularly fierce virtue-signalling spasm, so I decided to look back and what he'd said about Mark Sanford's spectacularly public and flagrant adultery -- did this man said to "speak conservatism as a second language" impose a similarly Morally Objective standard on Sanford as the one he now claimed was absolutely necessary in the case of Trump?

Or did he offer some Moral Relativism in defense of Sanford?

Well you probably can guess the answer but let's check:

Flashback, 2013: Jonah Goldberg Argues That Because Democrats Rejected the "Cheat on Your Wife, Lose Your Political Office" Rule, That Means That Republicans Should Ignore It Too, and Vote for the Mark Sanford Despite Flagrant Adultery

Gee, that's weird. Because this same cuck has been screaming for the past three years that we should insist on the rule we pressed for in 1998 with Clinton, only to see that rule completely rejected by the public.

But here he was in 2013, arguing for a cuck more in sync with his cuck tendencies, saying a little bit of adultery shouldn't matter between Urban Cosmopolitan Sophisticates.

I'm going to quote as much as I damn well like because Jonah Goldberg is a plagiarist and there's no editor willing to correct this. So I guess we're like roommates who share a fridge now, taking out of it whatever we might need.

BTW: I don't disagree that of course we should have voted for the cuck Sanford over Stephen Colbert's sister for this House race.

But if we're not going to give away a House seat to show how Principled we are, how can someone claim we should give away a presidency?

And the three Supreme Court picks (minimum) we'll be getting out of it?

It's just weird to see Jonah Goldberg acknowledging that "the culture has changed," and that we don't live in a puritanical culture even if we might like to, and that sometimes practical considerations about who we want to have actual throw-you-in-jail power over us should enter into these moral debates.

He seems less willing to acknowledge these things now.

Sanford and the Culture

By JONAH GOLDBERG

May 8, 2013 1:45 PM

Let me say upfront: I would rather we lived in a society where adultery had a higher social cost. Thatís not to say people shouldnít be forgiving or that there should be no such thing as second chances. But ideally, I'd like it if things were less loosey-goosey. Cheat on your wife, and maybe you donít get to run for public office anymore. Send junk-tweets to random young women who arenít your wife? Well there goes your dream of becoming mayor. Exploit an intern whose name you can barely remember while you're the president of the United States, maybe your moral ranking should be downgraded to junk and you should quietly skulk off the public stage. Or, if that's too much to ask, maybe the interval between scandal and rehabilitation could last a little longer than the maturation time of a fruit fly. No politician is so indispensable that we just canít do without him (or her), never mind for a little while.


But, here's a newsflash: We don't live in that country anymore. And any hope that we might be able to was not on the ballot in South Carolina yesterday. What was on the ballot was a choice between a woman who tried to dodge the fact she was a liberal running to advance the liberal agenda of the Democratic party and a conservative whose marriage fell apart because he fell in love with somebody else.

Wait, is he saying you should vote for someone with a sexually checkered past if he's running against a woman who is a liberal trying to advance the liberal agenda of the conservative party?

I'm confused! Because I thought in 2016 (and since then) he's been saying "Vote Democrat to stop the sex criminal Trump."

Oh wait, he hasn't been saying that, exactly. As Not Binary Ben says: It's not biiiiinary.

He sure has been implying it a lot, though.

I'm not condoning Sanford's behavior -- at all --

It kinda sounds like you are. And based on how the beginning of this sentence is shaping up, I think you're going to start seriously condoning it in a second.

-- but in the parade of horribles we've seen from politicians over the last 20 years, Sanford's behavior is almost quaint.

I'd say there's some major league condoning going on.

He fell in love with an age-appropriate woman.

What does this matter? I know this matters to feminists, who are always angry that men tend to prefer younger, more attractive women, but how does selecting an "age-appropriate woman" to betray his wife with mitigate the offense?

His formidable wife didn't run to the stage to gaze admiringly and forgivingly at her disgraced husband to lessen the political damage.

How could she? He was in fucking Argentina, having deserted his post to get some strange.

And what does this matter? How does Jenny Sanford's dignified behavior reflect on Mark Sanford, the guy actually running for the House seat? He threw this woman over -- why should he get some of the credit for her behavior?

This is just confused and sloppy.

She kicked him to the curb and moved on with her life. Every marriage is different and we can't peer inside any but our own, but I admired Jenny Sanford's response.

Oh, wonderful. But see, she wasn't running. The morality debate isn't about her behavior. It's about her adulterous husband, who absconded to Argentina with a hot little Doritos Chalupa.

Again, why is he getting credit for the swell behavior of the woman he betrayed?

Is it just, you know, that Jonah likes Mark Sanford and is cultishly looking for any reason to excuse his misbehavior?

Of course, one could argue that Huma, Hillary, and Silda were more "pro-marriage" in that they stayed by their husbands. And that just gets us back to how the culture has changed. It's a fascinating thing. Speaking very broadly as there are exceptions all over the place, it seems like liberal political couples work harder to save their marriage after a sex scandal.

You mean non-political couples that have these problems don't bother with the pretense and just get divorced?

Hm, I wonder what other non-political person, who sought political office late in life, this special dispensation might be afforded to.

Who knew you were so latitudinarian and hippie-like about the sacred bonds of wedlock after the tut-tut, harumph-harumph performance you've been regaling us with for three years!

By the way: Love your Prison Joke Set. Any chance you'll favor us with your favorite sodomy gags again?

You know, the culture has changed and all.

Again, that's just an impression. I haven't tabulated all the cases.

Really? Because this tossed-off piece seemed so rigorous, well-considered, and well-edited.

But it certainly seems like conservative voters like it more when wives refuse to tolerate their cheating husbands.

And we're back on Jenny Sanford again.

What office is she running for, Jonah? You've made your case: I will vote for Jenny Sanford.

Now, this Buenos Aires Beau Mark Sanford, on the other hand -- him I still have reservations about.

Mark Sanford for Congress

My wife acted with dignity and grace throughout the entire time I was shtupping this broad I met at FuddRucker's Swinger's Night. So, you know -- points for "picking 'em," I guess?

Does that make conservatives less pro-marriage?

It makes you either a confused or disingenuous writer who is determined to smear Mark Sanford with Jenny Sanford's dignity.

You just won't get out of this particular hole you're digging.

You know what I'd like to see? I'd like to see a guy rob a bank, and then, at trial, tell the judge: "Your honor, what I did was excusable. You see, Jenny Sanford conducted herself with poise and dignity throughout Mark Sanford's infidelities. If you wouldn't punish Jenny Sanford, you shouldn't punish me, either."

And then I'd like the judge to say, "Well, that makes sense to me. I think Jonah Goldberg explained that to me once. Case dismissed."

Or does it mean that liberal political couples care about politics above all else? Or do they place less stock in the value of fidelity (it's just sex, who cares?). It seems to me there are a lot of ways to dissect that. For now, suffice it to say the times have changed.

Oh, the times have changed.

Did they change back, suddenly, in 2015? I guess so.

This is pure obfuscation, or else he's just not a focused writer.

Couch, what do you think?

Star Trek? Is that a good reference? Simpsons?

Anyone remember Quantum Leap? Ziggy, where am I?

References? These are still funny, right?

Anyway:

And it's worth noting that what has changed the most isn't the supply of moral politicians, but the demand for them.

This means the culture has shifted from demanding strict sexual morality, to either demanding it less, or not demanding it at all.

And Goldberg was okay with that... in 2013.

But in 2015, he was suddenly struck by a crisis of sexual conscience.

Ambitious, selfish, amoral men have always been attracted to politics.

Really!

At least in terms of his sex life, John F. Kennedy was a disgusting man who, among other things, pimped out an intern. Other presidents, Republican and Democrat, cheated on their wives, too. Such behavior is not new.

Are you sure? Because you've seemed pretty exercised about it since 2015. You really seemed to blow a gasket when you found out Trump slept with an easy-lay porn star.

But that was all kept from the public eye -- by the press, by the establishment, etc. -- in part because it was understood that if the public found out, the politician's career would be over. Times have changed and the public doesn't demand -- or demand sufficiently -- either the myth or the reality of morality anymore.

Again, until 2015, when a Miracle happened...

Isn't it convenient how the Grand Poobahs of Righteousness and the Keepers of the Flame of Morality turn their puritanical gaze on or off depending on whether they support or oppose a person?

Why, that doesn't sound like actual righteousness or morality at all, Jonah.

That just sounds like bad-faith political opportunism.

I think it's fair to say that conservatives still care more than liberals about maintaining the old standards. And that creates a real dilemma. In an era of moral lassitude, how much do you insist on moral propriety in politics?

Depends on the guy. Seems to me that Marco Rubio had a few major rumors going around about him, but Jonah didn't let that particular pebble-in-shoe break his stride.


Since sin and temptation are bipartisan phenomena, should conservatives be at a constant disadvantage? I don't think there are easy answers there, or at least I can't think of what they might be.

Don't knock yourself short -- you've offered nothing but simplistic, binary, easy answers on this question starting sometime, oh, around June 2015.

Asking Republicans to vote for Colbert Busch in order to punish Mark Sanford strikes me as a hard sell.

But throwing an entire presidential election in 2016 was a pretty easy call, it turns out.

Why support the party you disagree with politically just to punish a man you agree with politically?

A lot of us asked that question in 2016, and decided it wouldn't make sense to reward a party that actively wished to harm us just to Virtue Signal that we don't like adultery.

Others...? Well, others, let us say, chose a different path.

Colbert Busch -- whose political hero, of course, was John F. Kennedy -- wouldn't even answer directly whether she would vote for Nancy Pelosi as speaker. On matters of political integrity, it seems to me, Sanford was hardly the clear worse choice.

And Hillary declared she was pro-Open Borders in a Univision debate and also said she was in favor of no restrictions on abortion, right up until the moment of crowning.

Some of us decided that Trump "was hardly the clear worse choice."

Others, again, chose a different path.

i just feel like I'm in the Upside-Down world reading Jonah Goldberg declaring that we should take into consideration the moral consequences of our moral judgments, such as escorting leftwing politicians into power over our lives if we decide that a non-leftwing candidate is too scarlet for our very prissy tastes.

Weird how that sensible observation went out the window in, oh, say June 2015 again.

But one thing I really resent is the tendency of liberals to demand that conservatives stick to standards that liberals reject entirely. If you have no brief against the Clintons, the Weiners, the Spitzers, or the Kennedys please don't pretend you're offended by the Sanfords.

I'm morally offended by the disgusting quantity of repellent Whataboutism going on here!!!

The NeverTrumpers became suuuuuper on-guard against any Whataboutism that might suggest Trump was no worse than the average politician.

Although, of course, they jumped at the chance to offer their own form of Whataboutism -- Hillary is the most moderate Democrat they've run in a generation, as JV Last can tell you now.

Indeed, when Democratic politicians get caught in scandals, the response from liberals is invariably, Why canít you conservatives lighten up? Who are you to judge? Etc. It is only when conservatives are caught in such messes, that liberals walk over to the conservative side, pick up our standards, and beat us up with them. Any talk of lightening up or forgiveness is immediately denounced.

Really? Hadn't noticed. Hadn't decided "I'm not being a sap and playing that game any more."

None of us did. We're all just "Cultists," unlike you, Jonah.

You guys are the only ones capable of higher moral thinking.

When I made this decision, it was morally repellent and "cultish." I was just being "tribal."

But when you argued for this same latitudinarian impulse, and argued for the same cost-benefit analysis of cutting off your nose to spite your face, it was the good kind of Whataboutism.


It's absolutely true that conservatives need to wrestle with the question of what we should expect from our politicians. But I'm not sure liberals have anything worth listening to on the subject.

I'll go you one better: I'm not sure Conservatism, Inc. -- #PaycheckConservatism -- has anything left to teach us either on matters of morality or any other matters besides.

* Is it just me, or does anyone else notice that Erickson writes like a very blockheaded 9-year-old doing a book report on a book he only read the bookflap blurbs of?

My review of Mark Sanford. My review of Mark Sanford is that he is very, very good. Mark Sanford is good because Mark Sanford says and does good things. Mark Sanford was a good governor. One time he went for a hike and that was also good. Even if it's not good, criticizing him for it would be MEAN! This is the end of my review of Mark Sanford.

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1 Trump's tweets will be epic!

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at September 09, 2019 01:24 PM (/5WQL)

2 Heh.

Who?

Good luck with that, Sanford!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 01:25 PM (bDqIh)

3 Age appropriate wife?
OK, so greater than what, 18?

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 01:25 PM (CPk08)

4 So the Republicans are starting their own clown car

Posted by: It's me donna at September 09, 2019 01:26 PM (O2RFr)

5 Challenge Trump to what- a poon hitting contest?

Trump would win that too.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:26 PM (6ms3X)

6 What world do these people live in that they think they can primary a popular sitting president?

Posted by: Panchito Pistoles at September 09, 2019 01:26 PM (+QJh9)

7 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 09, 2019 01:27 PM (arJlL)

8 Hello..

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 01:28 PM (i5RAz)

9 >>My wife acted with dignity and grace throughout the entire time I was shtupping this broad I met at FuddRucker's Swinger's Night. So, you know -- points for "picking 'em," I guess?


ace, you're killing me!

It's a little fuzzy, but didn't Jenny Sanford eventually become a Lefty hero, making herself useful to the MSM in attacking GOP values or somesuch?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 01:28 PM (bDqIh)

10 I hear Argentina is lovely this time of year.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 01:29 PM (ViZFb)

11 Maybe the reason Ace doesn't like Goldberg is that ace has been taken over by the Greys. First they took over Russia, then they rigged the election, now they control AOSHQ.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 01:29 PM (CPk08)

12 Erickson is such a sellout cuck.

When did the president abscond to a foreign country to meet his mistress, during the course of his official duties, and then lie about every aspect of it.

But yeah, Sanford is absolved or something.

Dick Muncher.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:30 PM (6ms3X)

13

Fred Sanford says that Mark is a great big dummy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 09, 2019 01:30 PM (kw5n8)

14 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:30 PM (iikV8)

15 Let's see: Number of Republican Establishment in Good Standing who claim they are all about reducing the deficit and debt-- all of them.
Number of REGS who deliver on their solomn promises to reduce the deficit and debt: 0.000

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at September 09, 2019 01:30 PM (k81AA)

16 dang, too late with the greys...

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 01:30 PM (CPk08)

17 It strikes me that the neocons, the supposed GOP-elite and the CoC cock holsters didn't learn anything from the 2016 election. I think it is time we repeat the lesson.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 09, 2019 01:30 PM (N39Ws)

18 When that 2 am crisis hits, Sanford will be found wandering an Argentinian airport in his pajamas.

Runaway bride for president.

Posted by: Panchito Pistoles at September 09, 2019 01:30 PM (+QJh9)

19 Argentina... things are.. different.. there.

Take for example water. It goes down the drain backwards in Argentina.

I swear on my word as a Biden. Saw it with my own eyes.

Posted by: Ol' Joe Biden at September 09, 2019 01:31 PM (RKQ/v)

20 Is this a movie review?

Because.. if it is.. I don't think I want to see that movie..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 09, 2019 01:31 PM (so+oy)

21

If Weld, Walsh and Sanford are the Three Stooges all of them are Joe Besser

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 09, 2019 01:31 PM (kw5n8)

22 Nevertrumper playthings can be rejected out of hand.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (EPqyT)

23 I defended Sanford for a while. I kinda liked him in the post-Tea Party era.

He was a flaccid and ineffective voice for fiscal restraint, but he was at least a voice for it.

Trump broke him hard, and he honestly didn't have far to go.

Think back to the primaries. He endorsed Cruz the morning of the vote because he didn't want to jump in with a solid voice too early. He's a coward.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (iikV8)

24 Watching Erickson and the rest of his crew cuck themselves into a coma would be hilarious, until you realize that this is the legally approved limit of conservatism. Move 1 centiShapiro past Erickson, which is still 49 centiShapiros away from Donald Trump, and you're in UnPersonLand. Only by making right wing criticism of these cucks illegal can they hope to survive.

Anyways, no one thinks Mark Sanford can win. In fact, seeing Weld and Sanford as the only Republicans who are so fucked that they join Bill Kristol might actually discourage similar traitors. Why lower your career to the level of these no hoper retards?

Posted by: trev006 at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (Lvrv/)

25 Good God, you can't see the Jokes for the Words!

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (ViZFb)

26 We just want lower taxes and more war.


But we'll settle for Socialism if need be.

Posted by: Con-servatives at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (MAstk)

27 Paul Ryan, was a favorite of the REGS, never cut one thin dime from any of Obama's trillion-dollar budgets of debt-financed spending

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (k81AA)

28

Can someone tell me how Democrat pedophile whoremonger Bob
Menendez's name was never mentioned during the whole Epstein
Democrat sex scandal and murder?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (y6ucC)

29 "(Trump) cannot really go after (the affair)." Just watch. He will bring this up time and time again.

Trump NEVER held himself out as some saint, and people knew he had a history. However, he never abandoned the governors mansion to flee wit his mistress either.

Erickson is an idiot.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (wGbBR)

30 it's true.

my dad is a dick muncher

Posted by: Erick Erickson Ericksonson at September 09, 2019 01:33 PM (RKQ/v)

31 How many of these GOPe "challengers" like Sanford can fill a stadium like Trump can?

How many Democrats for that matter..

But they can sure fill those fundraising cocktail parties

Posted by: kbdabear at September 09, 2019 01:33 PM (qAR6u)

32 18
When that 2 am crisis hits, Sanford will be found wandering in an Argentinian airport in his pajamas. .



Runaway bride for president.

Posted by: Panchito Pistoles at September 09, 2019 01:30 PM (+QJh9)

FIFY

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 09, 2019 01:33 PM (N39Ws)

33 He's just the paragon of virtue this country needs.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 01:33 PM (NWiLs)

34 Sanford sucks soros cock.

Posted by: john doe at September 09, 2019 01:33 PM (WX+x0)

35

Mark Sanford is a lying pig.

A mothafukkin pig.

Ahh, I now see why the #Nevers want him.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 01:33 PM (sy5kK)

36 Short version: The cucks will take any bull in a storm. Or in their wives.

Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at September 09, 2019 01:34 PM (RD7QR)

37 I didn't know Sanford was a NT Cuck.

Now I do.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 01:34 PM (FiUMj)

38
"Sanford and the Culture"


Worst NBC Sitcom Evah!!!!!


Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2019 01:34 PM (SHtRW)

39 Sanford ... considers "our nation's debt, deficits, and spending" to be a major issue

Nice read of the electorate there, bucko.

#HowYouGotTrump

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 01:34 PM (77WPm)

40
Can someone tell me how Democrat pedophile whoremonger Bob
Menendez's name was never mentioned during the whole Epstein
Democrat sex scandal and murder?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (y6ucC)




The same way Slick Willie's name rarely got mentioned because Democrat

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (kw5n8)

41 24 Watching Erickson and the rest of his crew cuck themselves into a coma would be hilarious, until you realize that this is the legally approved limit of conservatism. Move 1 centiShapiro past Erickson, which is still 49 centiShapiros away from Donald Trump, and you're in UnPersonLand. Only by making right wing criticism of these cucks illegal can they hope to survive.

Anyways, no one thinks Mark Sanford can win. In fact, seeing Weld and Sanford as the only Republicans who are so fucked that they join Bill Kristol might actually discourage similar traitors. Why lower your career to the level of these no hoper retards?
Posted by: trev006 at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (Lvrv/)

===========

Being Never Trump in good standing has literally nothing to do with any policy view. It's solely about being anti-Trump.

Raises tariffs? He's ungood.
Avoids tariffs? He's ungood.
Cheats on his wife? He's ungood.
His wife loves him and stays? He's ungood.
Enforces borders? He's ungood.
Doesn't enforce them as strongly as promised? He's ungood.

It's pure virtue signalling.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (iikV8)

42

Cocksucker Cuck Erickson, BUT SANFORD NEVER TOOK A HIKE.
IT WAS A LIE, YOU DUMB SHIT.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (y6ucC)

43 Say, didn't NeverTrumper Erik Erickson make a big deal of coming out for Trump ~6 months ago???

I forget why - it was in response to some Trump accomplishment, I think. Didn't really care, it was simply a noteworthy evet, a cuck finally waking up.

Sure didn't last long, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (bDqIh)

44 In fact, seeing Weld and Sanford as the only Republicans who are so fucked that they join Bill Kristol might actually discourage similar traitors.

Don't forget Justin Amashole.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (O8WFE)

45 Sanford ... considers "our nation's debt, deficits, and spending" to be a major issue

__

Which is why he voted against spending bills while in congress. Right? Fuck off asshole.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (FiUMj)

46 29 "(Trump) cannot really go after (the affair)." Just watch. He will bring this up time and time again.

Trump NEVER held himself out as some saint, and people knew he had a history. However, he never abandoned the governors mansion to flee wit his mistress either.

Erickson is an idiot.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 09, 2019 01:32 PM (wGbBR)

===========

Trump loves to hit at hypocrisy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (iikV8)

47 I still want to read who in Congress has had to pay hush money via the American taxpayer because they couldn't keep their filthy paws off of someone.

Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (oiNtH)

48 I think it was pretty easy to support Sanford- until he revealed he was certifiably nuts.

This guy is was telling more fairytales than Aesop, meanwhile the cucks are raising him up as the epitome of integrity.

Honestly, they should all go eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (6ms3X)

49 "Sanford and the Culture"


Worst NBC Sitcom Evah!!!!!


Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2019 01:34 PM


"Sanford and Some"?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2019 01:36 PM (ejd/p)

50 11 Maybe the reason Ace doesn't like Goldberg is that ace has been taken over by the Greys. First they took over Russia, then they rigged the election, now they control AOSHQ.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 01:29 PM (CPk0

I'm totally fine with alien control of the HQ.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 01:36 PM (RD7QR)

51 Isn't this the creep who said he was hiking the Appalachian Trail while boinking his mistress in South America? Or was he doing the dew on the Appalachian Trail?
IIRC, his wife didn't take the news really well. I remember she did an interview, but can't recall what excuse he gave her. Must've been a dooozy!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at September 09, 2019 01:36 PM (NM/OW)

52 >>I'm going to quote as much as I damn well like because Jonah Goldberg is a plagiarist and there's no editor willing to correct this. So I guess we're like roommates



Pro Tip : Clean the Toaster before using it.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 01:36 PM (ViZFb)

53 My wife acted with dignity and grace throughout the entire time I was shtupping this broad I met at FuddRucker's Swinger's Night.


IIRC, he met her online? She was from Argentina and while claiming that he was on a vacation hiking the Appalachian Trail, he was actually flying down to Buenos Aires?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 01:36 PM (ujg0T)

54 You know what's going to bring in a bumper crop of votes?

Standing in front of a rapidly aging society and talking about how we need to get rid of Social Security.

Yeah well that bird flew decades ago. Ain't no one voting for that stuff regardless of debt or what have you.

So what else you got? Nuthin'. That's what I thought.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 09, 2019 01:36 PM (j3npP)

55 Ace fisking Jonah is even more epic than an Ace movie review. wowzers

Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM (786Ro)

56 Just a quickie post.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM (R5V4T)

57 The Bank mistakenly deposited my penis into her off shore Vagina Account.

Posted by: Mark Sanford at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM (ViZFb)

58
There was no Hike.
Sanford made it up.

He was "hiking" his argentinian mistresses' ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM (y6ucC)

59 Trump's already tweeted out a slam on Sanford, referring to the Appalachian Trail and calling all of Kristol's Angels "The Three Stooges".

Posted by: Ian S. at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM (ZGrMX)

60 SC to Argentina is 5000 miles. I think if wifey is more 1000 miles away it is not adultery.

Posted by: cuckpublicans at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM (JFO2v)

61 Did Sanford and the Argentine homewrecker stay together?

Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2019 01:38 PM (O98j8)

62 60 SC to Argentina is 5000 miles. I think if wifey is more 1000 miles away it is not adultery.
Posted by: cuckpublicans at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM (JFO2v)

===========

"Can we change that to 50 miles? Asking for a friend."
-Charlies Sykes

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:38 PM (iikV8)

63 Maybe the reason Ace doesn't like Goldberg is that ace has been taken over by the Greys.

That depends, is "the Greys" a new shelving unit from Ikea?

Posted by: Ian S. at September 09, 2019 01:39 PM (ZGrMX)

64 Sanford should acknowledge it and say he suspects the nation would rather a President who might take a hike than take to Twitter.
-- Erick Ericksoy


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE SANFORD TOOK TO TWITTER TO ANNOUNCE HIS CANDIDACY AND ATTACK TRUMP

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 09, 2019 01:39 PM (786Ro)

65 CNNPLEASECALLME

Posted by: Erick Erickson at September 09, 2019 01:39 PM (RKQ/v)

66 Erickson said on a local radio show the upcoming election will be Republican deciding if they are national socialist.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 01:39 PM (JFO2v)

67 My recollection is that what pissed people off about Sanford wan't the adultery (though he got mocked for the Appalachian Trail excuse). What pissed people off was when - after his wife had agreed to overlook his indiscretion - he got in front of a microphone and proceeded to talk at length about how his Argentinian mistress was his soulmate.
His wife filed for divorce not long afterward.

Posted by: junior at September 09, 2019 01:40 PM (BWEfk)

68 Sanford is a huge fool. He just wanted to prove it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 09, 2019 01:40 PM (R5V4T)

69 He's a moral, principled "conservative" like Murderin', Philanderin' Joe Scarborough is.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 09, 2019 01:40 PM (ptqGC)

70 Good lord, this is going to take a long time to read.

Can't we just continuing arguing with Chris? Seems like it will take less effort..

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 01:40 PM (sX1BW)

71 66 Erickson said on a local radio show the upcoming election will be Republican deciding if they are national socialist.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 01:39 PM (JFO2v)

Oh fer God's sake, if you must be an asshole at least be an original asshole.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 01:40 PM (RD7QR)

72 "Sanford and Some"?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2019 01:36 PM (ejd/p)

Sanford and Some Strange

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 01:40 PM (JFO2v)

73 I recall hnw cringey his love letters to her were. He was writing poetry in honor of her big South American casabas.

Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2019 01:41 PM (O98j8)

74 It's pure virtue signalling.

Posted by:†TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier†at September 09, 2019 01:35 PM (iikV

Most virtue signaling is at least theoretically tied to a virtue. It's no coincidence that cucks promoted John McCain, Mark Sanford, and Dennis Hastert. All were disgusting and unstable cretins who were easily blackmailed. They clearly tried to intimidate Trump in similar fashion, only to get a massive bowl of LOL for their trouble. Trump has weathered every single scandal against him, and Bill Gates/ MIT has more to fear from the Epstein fallout than the President does.

Never seen anything like it.

Posted by: trev006 at September 09, 2019 01:41 PM (Lvrv/)

75 The only votes he'll steal are those who were going to the dem anyway.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 09, 2019 01:41 PM (k76MH)

76 Let's check the fiscal record from Sanford's time in CONgress (since 2013)...

The milk-chocolate messiah got every penny of spending he wanted, and more. And PDJT has gotten just about everything he wants - sans The Wall. Meaning that he's unable to convince his own colleagues that his signature issues (debt, deficit, spending) are worthy of discussion.

So yeah, good luck selling that to an electorate who is seeing their inflation-adjusted take-home pay actually increase for the first time in 20+ years.

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 01:41 PM (77WPm)

77 >> "(Trump) cannot really go after (the affair)."


You'd think after watching Trump in action for 3 years they would understand that Trump gets all kinds of creative in his attacks, and he is perfectly willing to say things that others would never dream of saying.

See: "Crooked Hillary," "Sleepy Jeb," "Crazy Mika," "Filthy-mouthed" Chrissy Teigan and so on.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 01:41 PM (bDqIh)

78 the anti-Trumpers are deranged ... and/or prostitutes for whoever pays them to smear Trump.

Do we really know Trump cheated, while still really IN a marriage? We know he paid women to shut up, but no real details. And hey, maybe there were some "open marriage" agreements before the kids were born ... who knows? Jenny left pig Sanford, only means that Sanford was not worth keeping ... doesn't make him more noble than Trump .. probably makes him less noble.


What does Reggie Love have to say on this subject, and why does Obama's BodyMan never come up in the media? heh

Posted by: illiniwek at September 09, 2019 01:42 PM (Cus5s)

79 Sanford & Senorita

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 01:42 PM (O8WFE)

80 62 60 SC to Argentina is 5000 miles. I think if wifey is more 1000 miles away it is not adultery.
Posted by: cuckpublicans at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM (JFO2v)

===========

"Can we change that to 50 miles? Asking for a friend."
-Charlies Sykes
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:38 PM (iikV

When the wheel go up so do I!

Posted by: Mark On the Trail Sandford at September 09, 2019 01:42 PM (JFO2v)

81 so...uh, tl'dr...but the only republican I'd vote for over trump is **worse than trump**, I think this guy is "better" than trump in that he loves science and the form of jesus that says open borders is the key to heaven. I want a "worse than trump" guy who is going to militarize the mexican border and deport everyone. and send the Resist traitors to gitmo.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (thQkh)

82 Democrats have always been the ones to push the boundaries of morality, and Republicans were the traditional defenders. They only dropped their morality standards when they realized that electorally it didn't matter much to the voters.

Morality had been on of a republicans sine qua nons for years. But that changeover predates Trump. In fact it arguably set the stage for him to be elected.

When Jonah laments our fall from morality he might want to remember that.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (6ms3X)

83 The top two candidates in 2016 were and are still detested by the GOPe. Trump and Cruz.

Their golden boys JEB! and Rubio flopped badly in spite of huge cash infusions, "expert, savvy, and experienced" campaign teams, and praise from the GOPe "thought leaders"

You'd think they'd learn from that experience that conservative voters have tuned them out and have nothing but contempt for them, but the GOPe has never been known to learn from their mistakes.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (qAR6u)

84 73 I recall hnw cringey his love letters to her were. He was writing poetry in honor of her big South American casabas.

Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2019 01:41 PM (O98j

He was 'pussy whipped' alright.

Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (a0IVu)

85 Well its September and Barr hasn't said anyth....

Nah

Fuck it

Posted by: Getcha Pull at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (NxIci)

86 How can everyone be missing the most important disqualifier for Mark Sanford? It was NOT the "adultery", although that was part of it, and that's the juicy part of the story that everyone likes to talk about, including Sanford himself.

What disqualified him was that WHEN he was Governor, he LIED to everyone about what he was doing, and where he was going, and he secretly took a trip out of the country when he claimed he was going hiking. That was a fraud on his JOB and on everyone who thought he was being a responsible Governor.

THAT is the infraction that said he should NEVER be trusted with any public job ever again - the FACT that he will lie to the public, and to everyone he works with, even on an intimate basis, whenever he thinks it will advance his own personal interests.

Mark Sanford isn't just an adulterer, he is a FRAUD who committed a FRAUD while he was Governor. THAT is why he should be disqualified from ever holding any public office, ever again!

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (Kpl3J)

87 Very well done, starting with the refusal to link to Erickson. Speaking of, the president's people have a need to go after Sanford in what alternate universe, exactly? Sanford likely will drop out before his squirrel turd can drop in the South Carolina punchbowl, because like Lindsey Graham, he doesn't want to get the highly predictable verdict from his own people.

As for Goldberg, what sticks out in my mind is he announced he never would vote for a president who once in private life referred to a woman as "a piece of ass." Maybe Trump should have offered that description from Latin America.


These people are done. They think they can slither back after Trump is gone, but it isn't happening. And if the GOP doesn't make radical adjustments to reflect Trumpism, it, too, will cease to exist right along with them.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (iw59Q)

88 If it was the early 90's they would have made a porn called Sanford and Buns.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 09, 2019 01:44 PM (hOwPo)

89 Sanford's ex wife Jenny is an heiress and former investment banker who bankrolled most of Sanford's campaigns. I bet she regrets that now.

His ex fiancee, his Argentinian lover, broke off their engagement as he wouldn't set a wedding date. She later said the he was just using her.

Seems like a real nice guy.

Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 01:44 PM (oiNtH)

90 So Sanford > Trump because:

1. He cheats with older less attractive women?

2. His wife rightfully kicked him to the curb after cheating on him - even though Trump's wives divorced him too.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 01:44 PM (sX1BW)

91 Let's not lose sight of the fact almost all of these folks involved in the Russia-gate imbroglio are married to other players within the same game. They don't take each other's names so the press doesn't have to hide those facts.

All leftists covering for each other. If that ain't political nothing is.

Posted by: DanMan at September 09, 2019 01:44 PM (XTiHL)

92 Maaaan, that fisking's gonna leave a mark. Poor Jonah. lolllll

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at September 09, 2019 01:44 PM (bvp+i)

93 He's hitting the trail (again)

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 09, 2019 01:44 PM (hOwPo)

94 Sanford wore out his welcome in his home state, defeated in a primary for a seat he had won overwhelmingly in the past.

He hasn't gotten better with age.

He does not have the fundraising machine nor the connections to put on a primary run, much less a serious one.

Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2019 01:45 PM (9VeU0)

95 The funniest part is how the mistress had already rearranged the furniture in the Governor's Mansion, thinking she was going to preside as Reina de Sud Carolina.

Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2019 01:45 PM (O98j8)

96 "Jonah, please use diktat in a sentence."

"Karl Marx dik taste good."

Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:45 PM (6ms3X)

97 3 Age appropriate wife?
OK, so greater than what, 18?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at September 09, 2019 01:25 PM (CPk0

Not if you want to make Imam at the mosque.

Posted by: Allie at September 09, 2019 01:45 PM (sm6Pk)

98 It wasn't Sanford's affair. It was the absolute insanity of his actions in regard to the affair.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 01:45 PM (2DOZq)

99 The movie is called "The Sanford Affair"?

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 01:46 PM (hLRSq)

100 These people are done. They think they can slither back after Trump is gone, but it isn't happening. And if the GOP doesn't make radical adjustments to reflect Trumpism, it, too, will cease to exist right along with them.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (iw59Q)

This raises an interesting question: Who is the successor to Trump as the standard bearer for Trumpism? Is there somebody who could form a new party after Trump's term is over?

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 01:46 PM (RD7QR)

101 Sanford smells of flopsweat. The whole thing is so desperate that its cringe-inducing.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 01:46 PM (ppBhU)

102 It wasn't Sanford's affair. It was the absolute insanity of his actions in regard to the affair.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 01:45 PM


Ding ding ding! Don't tell this to cucks like Jonuhh.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 09, 2019 01:46 PM (hOwPo)

103 Eeew. Sanford went to South America and burned his wife for THAT?

They should have flogged him

Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:46 PM (6ms3X)

104 Hahaaaa, love how SC just got rid of its 2020 primary, so good ol boy Mark will get exactly ZERO "favorite son" delegates.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at September 09, 2019 01:47 PM (bvp+i)

105 'I came to preside as First Lady but all I got was this stupid Congressman'

Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2019 01:47 PM (O98j8)

106 103 Eeew. Sanford went to South America and burned his wife for THAT?

They should have flogged him
Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:46 PM (6ms3X)

==========

I saw her in person once. She was pretty good looking. Not some sort of Argentinian ideal of beauty or anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:47 PM (iikV8)

107 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

108 This is great. I didn't have time to read all the post but I'm going back.

First, I socked Sandford like a dozen times over the last week or so because I COULD SEE IT COMING IN THE AIR TONIGHT . . .OH LAWD.

Second. I think the credibility of these types is done for. There was a long take down of David French published in a catholic journal - Crisis Magazine. It took him down as a lip service conservative. Borderline incivility almost.

Posted by: simplemind at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (HkQpu)

109 His nickname is Zero Chance Sanford so I'd say he has zero chance.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (r+sAi)

110 You know who else was age appropriate?

Posted by: Max Power at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (QCc6B)

111 Sanford will be campaigning in Buenos Aires next week.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (6ms3X)

112
Lol. Great post Ace. I love it when you stick it to the cucks in the media.


Maybe ease up on Jonah for a while after this entry tho....he appears to be bleeding from both his front holes.


Next target? Someone needs to go after that a**hat Williamson again quite frankly....advocating for the deaths of millions of conservative blue collar workers in the heartland?...yeah, that guy needs to be taken apart more often.


No excuses for what he wrote. #NeverForget
What a scumbag that guy is....


Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (k0rIx)

113 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

It never gets old.

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (77WPm)

114 My initial reaction to Sanford was a big "meh", nobody's going to pay attention to this dude.

Then I realized, ohhh, the MSM is going to make us pay attention.

Posted by: WisRich at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (G0vdT)

115 SC to Argentina is 5000 miles. I think if wifey is more 1000 miles away it is not adultery.

Proximity marriage. He's a love the one you're with type creep!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (NM/OW)

116 At this rate, we're lucky Jeffrey Epstein is with the Choir Invisible, or HE'D be running for President, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (YqDXo)

117 >>Mark Sanford isn't just an adulterer, he is a FRAUD who committed a FRAUD while he was Governor. THAT is why he should be disqualified from ever holding any public office, ever again!



Exactly - and this point was obvious at the time.
Funny that Jonah obsessed on the affair, not the dereliction of his duties as Governor. You don't just disappear and not tell anyone where you really are.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (bDqIh)

118
83 The top two candidates in 2016 were and are still detested by the GOPe. Trump and Cruz.

Their golden boys JEB! and Rubio flopped badly in spite of huge cash infusions, "expert, savvy, and experienced" campaign teams, and praise from the GOPe "thought leaders"

You'd think they'd learn from that experience that conservative voters have tuned them out and have nothing but contempt for them, but the GOPe has never been known to learn from their mistakes.
Posted by: kbdabear at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (qAR6u)


Great points. Except the GOPe doesn't think they are mistakes, but their roll in political life.

That roll is of course, to be compliant losers to the Democrats and Leftist wishes.

Trump shows us there is another way instead of being a compliant loser, and they hate him and us for it.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (sy5kK)

119 One of your best Ace. Keep the fire hot

Posted by: G marks the spot at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (mrrpb)

120 90 So Sanford > Trump because:

1. He cheats with older less attractive women?

========

for what it's worth, trump hasn't actually admitted to fucking Stormy, the way I understand it is Cohen just paid her off assuming she and trump fucked.

Stormy discusses fucking trump the same way Ballsey Ford discussed her gang rape by every Republican Judicial Nominee...she teleported into the sex with trump and hated it and now wants money/fame.

Trump didn't "buy" her, right? He seduced her, so why is she retrospectively sex-shaming trump like it was the worst thing ever?

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (thQkh)

121 These people are done. They think they can slither back after Trump is gone, but it isn't happening. And if the GOP doesn't make radical adjustments to reflect Trumpism, it, too, will cease to exist right along with them.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (iw59Q)



Prediction: The GOPee types will try to weasel their way back in 2024. My bet is on George P. Bush, the next in line of the Bush dynasty. They will try Hispandering - again, but it won't work - again.

Not saying I like this, mind you, just what they will try. And like Mark Sanford, they will focus on that awful debt and those awful deficits, never mind that they did not care when W was President and that they said not a peep when the Obamunist tripled them.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (ujg0T)

122 89 Sanford's ex wife Jenny is an heiress and former investment banker who bankrolled most of Sanford's campaigns. I bet she regrets that now.

His ex fiancee, his Argentinian lover, broke off their engagement as he wouldn't set a wedding date. She later said the he was just using her.

Seems like a real nice guy.

Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 01:44 PM (oiNtH)

Where do these people find the heiress wives?

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (4i8PS)

123 Up next from David French: "The Evangelical Conservative Case for absconding with foreign mistresses"

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (N4xQB)

124 Sanford and Done

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 01:49 PM (2DOZq)

125 some day we will find Sanford's Argentine soulmate worked for Epstein (CIA and/or DeepState?), and had kompromat ... like (maybe) McCain and half of Congress.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 09, 2019 01:49 PM (Cus5s)

126 I think the only constituency folks like Sanford and Huntsman and other GOP-hating GOP types represent is CNN.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 01:49 PM (thQkh)

127 >>> Say, didn't NeverTrumper Erik Erickson make a big deal of coming out for Trump ~6 months ago???

I forget why - it was in response to some Trump accomplishment, I think.

...

it was either his normal emotionalism and inconstancy, where he rages this way and then rages the other way the next day, like a child, or it was a bid to increase traffic and make himself plausible as a "pro-Trump" analyst for CNN.

Either way, it doesn't matter.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 01:50 PM (PbpT7)

128 Then I realized, ohhh, the MSM is going to make us pay attention.

The MSM doesn't actually seem all that interested, but it's Christmas for the NeverTrumpers.

Someone posted a version of the "distracted boyfriend" meme on Twitter where Bill Kristol is looking at Sanford while Joe Walsh looks annoyed. Perfect.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 09, 2019 01:50 PM (ZGrMX)

129 He was "hiking" his argentinian mistresses' ass.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM


Dear Penthouse Letters,

I never thought I'd ever get a shot at conjoined twins, so when conjoined triplets came along ..:

Posted by: Marc Sanford at September 09, 2019 01:50 PM (umX6V)

130 This raises an interesting question: Who is the successor to Trump as the standard bearer for Trumpism? Is there somebody who could form a new party after Trump's term is over?
Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 01:46 PM (RD7QR)



At this point I am hoping Trump acts as "President Emeritus" after 2024 and advises Mike Pence on how to deal with the media.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 01:50 PM (ujg0T)

131 Jonah has lots of principles...all for sale to the person willing to buy them.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at September 09, 2019 01:50 PM (qC1Sy)

132 >> So Sanford > Trump because:

1. He cheats with older less attractive women?


Second look at The Arnold?

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 01:51 PM (ViZFb)

133 Congress is the one who actually passes the budget and approves spending. Since Sanford hasn't had much luck pressing his issues there, I don't see why he thinks he could do a better job as President.

Posted by: Liberty at September 09, 2019 01:51 PM (uSaYZ)

134 I guess Billy Kristol and his friends couldn't persuade the Child Catcher to run, so they have to settle for Sanford.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 09, 2019 01:51 PM (YslsA)

135
He does not have the fundraising machine nor the connections to put on a primary run, much less a serious one.



Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2019 01:45 PM (9VeU0)


And who is going to hire him, and for what? A law firm, lobbyist group, etc. would be looking for the doors he can open. A think tank or institution or a college again is looking for donors who he can tap.

Perhaps this run is one last shot to see if he has any horsepower, fundraising horsepower, left which would make him an attractive hire for one of those kind of schools or think tanks.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 01:51 PM (hLRSq)

136
I saw In Fucking Argentina open for Crack the Sky at the Cow Palace in '87.


Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2019 01:51 PM (SHtRW)

137 Adulterous Absconder Mark Sanford Announces He'll Be Challenging Trump or Something

This just in: Mary Kay LeTourneau is throwing her (slightly used) vibrator into the ring.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 01:51 PM (YqDXo)

138 Okay. I would tell all of these twerps to get fucked but unless Bill Clinton is volunteering I don't know anyone I would wish this bunch of useless, fart sniffing cucks on.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 09, 2019 01:51 PM (xdTAL)

139 "100 These people are done. They think they can slither back after Trump is gone, but it isn't happening. And if the GOP doesn't make radical adjustments to reflect Trumpism, it, too, will cease to exist right along with them.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 09, 2019 01:43 PM (iw59Q)

This raises an interesting question: Who is the successor to Trump as the standard bearer for Trumpism? Is there somebody who could form a new party after Trump's term is over?"

A serious political party, one that wants to win and govern, would be hard at work on that one. The GOP, of course, is grooming Haley or planning to reanimate Lil' Marco to take out what little remains of it.

If I could offer one logical successor: Sen. Josh Hawley. Unfortunately for the post-Trump Zombie Republican Party, he's too icky because he wants to regulate Big Tech and end its monopoly and censorship.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (iw59Q)

140 Either way, it doesn't matter.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 01:50 PM

My guess was his bank account wasn't getting 100K accidental deposits and he realized he was becoming a bush league Glen Beck wannabe and the school lunch menu on cable access had more viewers.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (hOwPo)

141 The funniest part is how the mistress had already rearranged the furniture in the Governor's Mansion, thinking she was going to preside as Reina de Sud Carolina.
Posted by: kallisto



You must... LOVE me

Posted by: Mark Lloyd Sanford at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (786Ro)

142 I think we used to call this movie The Luv Guv.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (sjdRT)

143
I saw Hot Little Doritos Chalupa open for Vanilla Ice at The Forum in '94.




Posted by: ShainS -- Cancel #ErasureCulture at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (Ag1Xg)

144 Where do these people find the heiress wives?
Posted by: Someguy

Don't know. Sanford and Kerry and probably more that I can't remember.

Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (oiNtH)

145 Does Jonah think Eliot Spitzer should still be Governor of New York? Or, for that matter, should Jim McGreevey been permitted to be Governor of New Jersey for eight years?

Even taking Sanford's candidacy at face value, has anyone asked him how he would cut federal spending, and at the same time, rebuild the military with a Democratic House? Would he shut down the government? For how long? Does he think the leftist media would give him a pass because he's Mark Sanford?

Posted by: mercenary13 at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (F1s01)

146 With the two fierce primary challengers of Joe Walsh and Mark Sanford, it's pretty much over for Trump. He might as well drop out of the race right now.

Posted by: Delusional NeverTrumpers Everywhere at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (l1sdS)

147 The whole NeverTrump "high ground" has been temperament, so let's run the guy that absolutely did just about the most reckless thing a Governor could do. Drop off the face of the Earth in hiding as a sitting Governor so he could get some foreign pussy.

If Trump pulled a stunt like that in office, even I would have to concede he's not mature enough to be President.


Are there any SoCons left that aren't just hypocritical douchebags?

Posted by: Blago at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (sjTfF)

148 Perhaps this run is one last shot to see if he has any horsepower, fundraising horsepower, left which would make him an attractive hire for one of those kind of schools or think tanks.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 01:51 PM (hLRSq)
--------------

"Broke and desperate is no way to run a campaign, son."

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (qC1Sy)

149 "I saw her in person once. She was pretty good looking. Not some sort of Argentinian ideal of beauty or anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:47 PM (iikV"

I have family who own a large farm in Argentina. I saw more local beautiful women on those trips than just about any place else I've been in the world.

Like I said. Eeeeew. And she's a puttane.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM (6ms3X)

150 I will admit a disappointment in the fact that Trump has done nothing to lessen spending and reducing the deficit. I, however, don't remember him running on that.

That being said, I'm not willing to throw all his other gains away to vote for some fucktard squish that thinks THEY can do better, yet have proven they suck in previous political roles.

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

151 Arrest was for multiple gun-related charges [including lying about mental
illness], false statements to acquire firearms, AND the bump stock possession.


But still seems this makes judicial review more likely. SCOTUS declined injunction to block new rule in April, but actual criminal case should make issue more "ripe" for review, it would seem.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM (QDnY+)

152 So, a rejected candidate for the Senate now thinks he's going to defeat a sitting President?? Really??? I'd say he's just an attention whore looking to set some sweet campaign dollars from his lefty pals, or in other words ... he's turned to prostitution on the $5.00 corner.

Posted by: Gmac-No fuckery for you! at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM (qZdIZ)

153 Congress is the one who actually passes the budget and approves spending. Since Sanford hasn't had much luck pressing his issues there, I don't see why he thinks he could do a better job as President.

--------------

Our complaint wasn't just that we were spending recklessly, it was that we were spending recklessly and losing the culture battle, and the GOPe was fecklessly losing on both fronts while pretending to care about both.

At least Trump fights on one side. I can't blame him much for the fact that the country as a whole doesn't seem to give a shit about a debt time bomb. I mean at least he is helping with the "revenue" side of the equation.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM (sX1BW)

154 Don't cry for me South Carolina ----Mark Sanford

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (2DOZq)

155 Dude managed to win back his house seat....then, couldn't hold it.....a real winner.

Posted by: BignJames at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (X/Pw5)

156 89 Sanford's ex wife Jenny is an heiress and former investment banker who bankrolled most of Sanford's campaigns. I bet she regrets that now.

His ex fiancee, his Argentinian lover, broke off their engagement as he wouldn't set a wedding date. She later said the he was just using her.

Seems like a real nice guy.

Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 01:44 PM (oiNtH)


Shouldn't he be a Democrat? He sounds like a natural.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (YqDXo)

157 Stormy discusses fucking trump the same way Ballsey Ford discussed her gang rape by every Republican Judicial Nominee...she teleported into the sex with trump and hated it and now wants money/fame.

Trump didn't "buy" her, right? He seduced her, so why is she retrospectively sex-shaming trump like it was the worst thing ever?
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (thQkh)

Stormy Daniels last year issued a statement saying that the "affair" never happened. For all of the talk and noise in the MSM, there is not one single piece of legal evidence that says this affair between them ever happened. The man who pushed the idea more than anyone else, Michael Avenatti, is headed to federal prison. (after his trial next year)

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (Kpl3J)

158 Sanford has found another sugar momma and this one hates Trump and America, is my guess.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (Qb6F8)

159 Someone posted a version of the "distracted boyfriend" meme on Twitter where Bill Kristol is looking at Sanford while Joe Walsh looks annoyed. Perfect.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 09, 2019 01:50 PM



Perfectomundo!

Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (786Ro)

160
I have family who own a large farm in Argentina. I saw more local beautiful women on those trips than just about any place else I've been in the world.

Like I said. Eeeeew. And she's a puttane.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM (6ms3X)

Why're you wasting your life away in the States then?

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (4i8PS)

161
Political Power must be the greatest drug ever.

Cuz none of these guys and/or gals can quit it once they've had it.

Just one more hit, maaaaan!

Just a little snort for old times sake!


Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (SHtRW)

162 Mark Sanford is the Republican Marianne Williamson, not really evil but out of touch with reality and grossly unqualified to be president.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (+y/Ru)

163 Normal enough that consistency and forgiveness are available only intra-clique and out group members get only scorn.

The sad thing about the NeverTrump clique is how they so desperately need/want to be members of the Liberal Consensus Cool Kids Team that they unilateral give out the in-group pass to Libs/Progs w/o any reciprocity whatsoever.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (hdzef)

164 Wait people, they met online?

So, did the dating service accidentally down load this Argentinian broad's email into Sandford's account?!?!!? ITS THEIR FAULT. He's totally blamess. He can bang that all he wants.

Posted by: Erik Taylorson at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (/cUA2)

165 127 >>> Say, didn't NeverTrumper Erik Erickson make a big deal of coming out for Trump ~6 months ago???

I forget why - it was in response to some Trump accomplishment, I think.

...

it was either his normal emotionalism and inconstancy, where he rages this way and then rages the other way the next day, like a child, or it was a bid to increase traffic and make himself plausible as a "pro-Trump" analyst for CNN.

Either way, it doesn't matter.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 01:50 PM (PbpT7)

He called into a local radio show here and Houston about 3 months ago was was a NeverTrumper all the way.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (JFO2v)

166 144 Where do these people find the heiress wives?
Posted by: Someguy

Don't know. Sanford and Kerry and probably more that I can't remember.
Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (oiNtH)

You forgot our favorite. John McCain

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (2DOZq)

167
Ya'll know this I think, but he is not running for Prez he is running to have a Prez fundraising campaign just like Hickenlooper and some others did. Its all about sweet sweet tax free cash that you can use for personal funds and jobs of family and friends.

PS - I am running for Prez also. Send me money.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (r+sAi)

168 162 Mark Sanford is the Republican Marianne Williamson, not really evil but out of touch with reality and grossly unqualified to be president.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (+y/Ru)

==========

Pre-Appalachian Trail, I was convinced he could become president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (iikV8)

169 yet have proven they suck in previous political roles.
Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Pete B. at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (umX6V)

170 Sanford was never one to keep a House together...

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (Qb6F8)

171 This raises an interesting question: Who is the successor to Trump as the standard bearer for Trumpism? Is there somebody who could form a new party after Trump's term is over?
Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 01:46 PM (RD7QR)


Ron DeSantis will be your huckleberry.

Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (9VeU0)

172 Hope he's not related to Lamont. That guy's a dummy.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (xfb67)

173 The sad thing about the NeverTrump clique is how they so desperately need/want to be members of the Liberal Consensus Cool Kids Team that they unilateral give out the in-group pass to Libs/Progs w/o any reciprocity whatsoever.

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thats a lot of words for "no reach around"...

Posted by: fixerupper at September 09, 2019 01:56 PM (8XRCm)

174 Good analysis, but who cares about what Jonah Cuckberg thinks these days anyway? Why are you paying any attention to this loser? Until your post, I hadn't thought of his worthless cuck-ass for at least a year. Thanks alot.

Posted by: Chestertonrocks at September 09, 2019 01:56 PM (VvtSf)

175 Ferret Ferretson is still a thing ?

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 01:56 PM (BqBId)

176 If it was the early 90's they would have made a porn called Sanford and Buns.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 09, 2019 01:44 PM


You're assuming they haven't. I ain't going looking, but I'll assume that Rule 34 is in play here.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2019 01:56 PM (ejd/p)

177 The Bank mistakenly deposited my penis into her off shore Vagina Account.
Posted by: Mark Sanford at September 09, 2019 01:37 PM (ViZFb)

Coulda been worse. Coulda been a sinking fund.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 01:56 PM (jEgzt)

178 146 With the two fierce primary challengers of Joe Walsh and Mark Sanford, it's pretty much over for Trump. He might as well drop out of the race right now.
Posted by: Delusional NeverTrumpers Everywhere at September 09, 2019 01:52 PM (l1sdS)

How could you leave out that electoral powerhouse Bill Weld?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 01:56 PM (Kpl3J)

179 If this blog becomes nothing but Ace slapping Jonah Goldberg in the nuts until the heat death of the universe I shall die content.

Posted by: Geoff Flakey at September 09, 2019 01:56 PM (jr+CG)

180 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (r+sAi)

And he will be well funded, by Never Trumpers, and the LEFT.

Posted by: Don Q at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (NgKpN)

181 I will admit a disappointment in the fact that Trump has done nothing to lessen spending and reducing the deficit.

Really, how could he? Congress has no appetite for spending cuts even when in GOP hands; and everyone opposes Trump for opposition's sake whenever he proposes anything. Someone remind me, when's the last time the House even tried to pass a regular budget?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (ppBhU)

182 So, did the dating service accidentally down load this Argentinian broad's email into Sandford's account?!?!!? ITS THEIR FAULT. He's totally blamess. He can bang that all he wants.
Posted by: Erik Taylorson at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (/cUA2)

----

*snort*

Posted by: fixerupper at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (8XRCm)

183 The PAC run by conservative Evan McMullen has thrown in 500k to support the Dem in the NC special election.

Posted by: Ha at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (MAstk)

184 Ya'll know this I think, but he is not running for Prez he is running to have a Prez fundraising campaign just like Hickenlooper and some others did. Its all about sweet sweet tax free cash that you can use for personal funds and jobs of family and friends.

PS - I am running for Prez also. Send me money.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM

Hey I was first! Send money to my gofundmynewboat. I mean my 2020 campaign!

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (hOwPo)

185 Wouldn't set a wedding date with his "soul mate"?

This is my shocked face. Look how shocked it is.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (O8WFE)

186 Sanford's anti-Trump acrimony is directly attributable to Trump endorsing his primary opponent for Congress.

He was Trump-skeptical, so Trump endorsed his primary opponent.

Then he went full on TDS.

Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (9VeU0)

187 Let the be- clowning begin!

Posted by: It's me donna at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (O2RFr)

188 "165 127 >>> Say, didn't NeverTrumper Erik Erickson make a big deal of coming out for Trump ~6 months ago???

I forget why - it was in response to some Trump accomplishment, I think.

...

it was either his normal emotionalism and inconstancy, where he rages this way and then rages the other way the next day, like a child, or it was a bid to increase traffic and make himself plausible as a "pro-Trump" analyst for CNN.

Either way, it doesn't matter.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 01:50 PM (PbpT7)

He called into a local radio show here and Houston about 3 months ago was was a NeverTrumper all the way."

Was that before or after Erickson recently announced he had made his first donation to the Trump campaign? As ace wrote, it doesn't matter (beyond the low-hanging ridicule opportunity).

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (iw59Q)

189 I think Taylor has taken enough of a pummeling in the earlier thread, I'm not up for dragging it in every thread this week.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 01:58 PM (Qb6F8)

190 At least Trump fights on one side. I can't blame him much for the fact that the country as a whole doesn't seem to give a shit about a debt time bomb. I mean at least he is helping with the "revenue" side of the equation.
Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM (sX1BW)



In a way, Trump IS winding down open-ended commitments abroad, which should bring down spending at least a little.

Given that the price of getting enough Dems to go along with foreign intervention has been to give pork to their districts, this might bring down spending some more.

I see no reason to try to "nation build" Afghanistan, which is impossible anyway, and so long as whoever takes power over there does not strike at the USA ever again, let's get out.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 01:58 PM (ujg0T)

191 Pre-Appalachian Trail, I was convinced he could become president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (iikV

pre-2012, I thought the same thing about Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 01:58 PM (Kpl3J)

192 Sanford? Didn't he and his son have a TV show a few years ago?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 09, 2019 01:58 PM (p0A33)

193 Too late for zombie Wilbur Mills to declare his candidacy? He had Fannie Foxe, the Argentinian stripper who later styled herself the "Tidal Basin Bombshell."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 01:58 PM (YqDXo)

194 179 If this blog becomes nothing but Ace slapping Jonah Goldberg in the nuts until the heat death of the universe I shall die content.
Posted by: Geoff Flakey at September 09, 2019 01:56 PM (jr+CG)

When Jonah gets old man nads it'll get easier and easier.*



*What? Could've lived without that image?

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 01:58 PM (RD7QR)

195 181 I will admit a disappointment in the fact that Trump has done nothing to lessen spending and reducing the deficit.

Really, how could he? Congress has no appetite for spending cuts even when in GOP hands; and everyone opposes Trump for opposition's sake whenever he proposes anything. Someone remind me, when's the last time the House even tried to pass a regular budget?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (ppBhU)

==========

This is true, but I imagine a world where Trump announced he would sign no appropriations bills or budgets that dealt with multiple departments. He would then veto entire department budgets, effectively shutting them down.

Of course, the main driver of our debt is entitlements, and no one has ever had the cajones to actually deal with that in a way that would pass Congress. Especially with a Democratic party that's going to go to the mat for any entitlement ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:59 PM (iikV8)

196 You're assuming they haven't. I ain't going looking, but I'll assume that Rule 34 is in play here.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2019 01:56 PM

Probably true. As cheesy as the bad synthesizer music was the play on titles from current events. Not that I would know....

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 09, 2019 01:59 PM (hOwPo)

197 His wife filed for divorce not long afterward.

Posted by: junior at September 09, 2019 01:40 PM (BWEfk)

she should have used the ever-popular divorce law partnership of Smith and Wesson.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 01:59 PM (jEgzt)

198 151†Arrest was for multiple gun-related charges [including lying about mental†
illness], false statements to acquire firearms, AND the bump stock possession.


But still seems this makes judicial review more likely. SCOTUS declined injunction to block new rule in April, but actual criminal case should make issue more "ripe" for review, it would seem.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM (QDnY+)


The guy isn't a good test case because he was already a prohibited person. Almost guaranteed to take a plea deal especially with the mental illness history.

Posted by: Liberty at September 09, 2019 01:59 PM (uSaYZ)

199
Where do these people find the heiress wives?

Posted by: Someguy


*checks Amazon*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2019 01:59 PM (MR5sC)

200 I just have one thing to say:

Rehab.

Even bumbling Jonah deserves a second chance.

Posted by: Fritz at September 09, 2019 01:59 PM (kLDv+)

201 (beyond the low-hanging ridicule opportunity).
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (iw59Q)

----------------

Low hanging! You wound me, sir! I'll have you know they never descended!!!!

Posted by: Jonah's Goldbergs at September 09, 2019 01:59 PM (qC1Sy)

202 189 I think Taylor has taken enough of a pummeling in the earlier thread, I'm not up for dragging it in every thread this week.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 01:58 PM (Qb6F

But he wouldn't go down. Like Newman in Cool Hand Luke.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 01:59 PM (2DOZq)

203 When Jonah gets old man nads it'll get easier and easier.*



*What? Could've lived without that image?
Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 01:58 PM

Like Bernie hitting the speed bag.,

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 09, 2019 02:00 PM (hOwPo)

204 yet have proven they suck in previous political roles.
Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM

=====

This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Pete B. at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM


Let me be clear, it certainly doesn't refer to me.

Posted by: B. Hussain Obama at September 09, 2019 02:00 PM (umX6V)

205 >>The PAC run by conservative Evan McMullen has thrown in 500k to support the Dem in the NC special election.


Has he settled his outstanding debts from his 2016 run yet???

IIRC, the guy stiffed his campaign staff. And has since gone on to be a DIABLO, because: who the Hell was this guy and where did he come from.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 02:01 PM (bDqIh)

206 and also accused the president having "ruled out action on the very things that drive spending and accumulated debt."


Riiiight.

~ Because the GOP were super duper budget hawks when W was POTUS. Not to mention putting in a mere token effort to reform Soc. Security after W's reelection. Also token efforts to reign the 0-down easy credit "very things that" drove the mortgage markets to implode.

~ f*ck Sanford with a pineapple sideways because the GOPe supports the "very things" that help their big donors engage in economic shananigans that drive up spending and accumulated debt

Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 02:01 PM (786Ro)

207 191 Pre-Appalachian Trail, I was convinced he could become president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM (iikV

pre-2012, I thought the same thing about Paul Ryan.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 01:58 PM (Kpl3J)

========

Yeah, me too. Ryan needed a stepping stone like VP or a governorship, but it seemed like he could do it.

Sanford was a successful and colorful governor (he brought a pig into the statehouse once to protest pork from the legislature). If he hadn't gone Appalachian Trail, he could have walked into 2016 strong. I'm sure he would have sold out on immigration and gotten swept aside by Trump in the end, but pre-Trump he had the makings of a future presidential candidate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:01 PM (iikV8)

208 reign = rein in

Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 02:01 PM (786Ro)

209
Even bumbling Jonah deserves a second chance.
Posted by: Fritz at September 09, 2019 01:59 PM (kLDv+)

------

Ummm.... no.

Those assholes do NOT get to come back to fold with their hats in their hands.

They're out. For. Ev. Errrrrrrrr.


Posted by: fixerupper at September 09, 2019 02:01 PM (8XRCm)

210 -
At the Cucka, Cucka-Cabana
My wife gettin plowed is the planna.
At the Cucka, Cucka-Cabana
Bulls full of passion, my wife takes a thrashin
At the Cucka, I smell the glove

Posted by: Jonah "Cuckles th Clown" Goldberg at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (pMGkg)

211 / off sock

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (qC1Sy)

212 Of course, the main driver of our debt is entitlements, and no one has ever had the cajones to actually deal with that in a way that would pass Congress. Especially with a Democratic party that's going to go to the mat for any entitlement ever.

-----------

Its time we come to the realization that the fault is not with Congress, it is with the people. Our only hope is that once the Boomers shrink in voting size, SS and medicare will be shelved and not replaced with something worse (i.e., medicare for all). Generation X will get screwed, but Millenials may not be as organized as the Boomers were. Time will tell.

Its not looking promising.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (sX1BW)

213 Quantum Leap was a good show.

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)

214 I will admit a disappointment in the fact that Trump has done nothing to lessen spending and reducing the deficit.

Really, how could he? Congress has no appetite for spending cuts even when in GOP hands; and everyone opposes Trump for opposition's sake whenever he proposes anything. Someone remind me, when's the last time the House even tried to pass a regular budget?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (ppBhU)


Bottom line: Congress - specifically, the House - controls the purse strings.

The President submits a request, and gets a budget from Congress which he is obliged to spend. Every President since Washington has bemoaned the lack of a line-item veto.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (YqDXo)

215 and Jonah will get his second chance when he asks for one and quits stealing ace' s content.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (Qb6F8)

216 Even bumbling Jonah deserves a second chance.

Um, no. No he doesn't.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (O8WFE)

217 Well, seeing I'm somebody who don't like throwing stones in a glass house, and in my case would be like firing a howitzer in a china shop, I wouldn't give a rats ass if trump staggered into the oval office wearing his tie as a headband, a naked chick in one arm, and dragging another by his man root, and passed out on his desk after a loud fart and burp as long as he destroys the left, removed the stain of socialism, and made America the country the founders wanted us to have.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (9Om/r)

218 Has Stormy ever given anymore than the year to her "meetings" w Trump? Never any actual date? Was the picture w PT supposedly contemporaneous w her "affair"?

Posted by: Ever at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (ZZDMQ)

219 Is this the Game of Thrones Season 8 review?

It looks like a Game of Thrones Season 8 review.

I do not watch Game of Thrones.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (w+Ped)

220 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:01 PM (iikV

We dodged a bullet.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 02:03 PM (2DOZq)

221 Erick Erickson is a shithead and a retard.

Posted by: Weasel at September 09, 2019 02:03 PM (RrqtM)

222 I am not LDS, but is McMullin an "outlier" being that age (40s) and not being married?

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 09, 2019 02:03 PM (wGbBR)

223 212 Of course, the main driver of our debt is entitlements, and no one has ever had the cajones to actually deal with that in a way that would pass Congress. Especially with a Democratic party that's going to go to the mat for any entitlement ever.

-----------

Its time we come to the realization that the fault is not with Congress, it is with the people. Our only hope is that once the Boomers shrink in voting size, SS and medicare will be shelved and not replaced with something worse (i.e., medicare for all). Generation X will get screwed, but Millenials may not be as organized as the Boomers were. Time will tell.

Its not looking promising.
Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (sX1BW)

==========

I agree. If the people cared enough about actually ensuring entitlements that will pay out, they'd have voted in representatives with a priority to make that happen.

There's more than one commenter here who goes ballistic at the idea of losing their benefits, though. Gen X isn't going to allow that to happen.

Me? I'm a millenial and have been told I would never get SS ever. So, I'm good with the entire system collapsing right now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:03 PM (iikV8)

224 Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
We have been serving as policemen in Afghanistan, and that was not meant to be the job of our Great Soldiers, the finest on earth. Over the last four days, we have been hitting our Enemy harder than at any time in the last ten years!

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 02:04 PM (BqBId)

225 Joe and Mika are both cheaters. Joe, a serial cheater, with most likely a murder in his past. Nothing like mutual distrust to make a marriage solid. It wouldn't surprise me if they each have private eyes on the payroll. Weird, weird couple.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 09, 2019 02:04 PM (9+jnX)

226 Where do these people find the heiress wives?
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 01:48 PM (4i8PS)


Yeah, is there some registry, certification or website(www.richbitch.com?) you can qualify for?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at September 09, 2019 02:04 PM (NM/OW)

227 Has Trump done everything I've wanted him to do? No. Has Trump done most of what he promised to do once elected? Yes. I continue to support him 100% and vote for him.

Posted by: Archer at September 09, 2019 02:04 PM (gmo/4)

228 In a way, Trump IS winding down open-ended commitments abroad, which should bring down spending at least a little.

Given that the price of getting enough Dems to go along with foreign intervention has been to give pork to their districts, this might bring down spending some more.

I see no reason to try to "nation build" Afghanistan, which is impossible anyway, and so long as whoever takes power over there does not strike at the USA ever again, let's get out.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

__________

I would bet close to 50 cents out of every dollar spent in my state is for illegal aliens. So that is something, but don't expect any TruCon to ever do a serious analysis.

I also agree Trump is at least saying no more of the Global Police Force nonsense.

Iraq is supposed to have cost $2 trillion, I've heard estimates that are way higher. You could probably "save" Social Security for everyone posting here with an extra $2 trillion. But Bush and McCain made some speeches about pork barrel spending on things like highways and bridges.

Posted by: Blago at September 09, 2019 02:04 PM (sjTfF)

229 Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 09, 2019 02:03 PM (wGbBR)
******
He likes to putt from the rough & Mine Harbors

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 02:04 PM (BqBId)

230 Who is the successor to Trump as the standard bearer for Trumpism?

-
Bond. James Bond.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 02:05 PM (+y/Ru)

231 Stormy Daniels last year issued a statement saying that the "affair" never happened. For all of the talk and noise in the MSM, there is not one single piece of legal evidence that says this affair between them ever happened. The man who pushed the idea more than anyone else, Michael Avenatti, is headed to federal prison. (after his trial next year)
Posted by: Tom Serv

++++++++

well, that is interesting! There was no affair, stormy just wanted to get paid.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 02:05 PM (thQkh)

232 230 Who is the successor to Trump as the standard bearer for Trumpism?

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Bond. James Bond.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 02:05 PM (+y/Ru)

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Catch up.

It's Bond. Janx Bond.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:05 PM (iikV8)

233 I'm going to run for President.

Posted by: Shemp at September 09, 2019 02:05 PM (6hCvI)

234 It's pretty amazing when you look at Trump's campaign promises, how many of them have been fulfilled or are being fulfilled now. And the ones that didn't get done were due to The Resistance, often from within his own nominal party.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 02:06 PM (O8WFE)

235 Think of Trump's effect on punditocracy and the political consultant class the same way Ray Stantz described the university.

"Personally, I liked the old GOPe, they gave us money and facilities. Trump's from the private sector; he expects *results*."

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 02:06 PM (hLRSq)

236 Erick Erickson is a shithead and a retard.
Posted by: Weasel at September 09, 2019 02:03 PM


Well said!

Posted by: Kamala (pronounced "Comma-la") H. at September 09, 2019 02:06 PM (umX6V)

237
Fred Sanford says that Mark is a great big dummy
Posted by: TheQuietMan

"I'll be a clean Old Man when I'm a dead Old Man."
--Mark Sanford quoting his friend Grady.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 09, 2019 02:06 PM (FTlwv)

238 >>Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
We have been serving as policemen in Afghanistan, and that was not meant to be the job of our Great Soldiers, the finest on earth. Over the last four days, we have been hitting our Enemy harder than at any time in the last ten years!
- - -
Keep doing that, Trump!!
Make the Taliban sorry for thinking they could keep up with their sh#t will pretending to negotiate peace.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 02:06 PM (bDqIh)

239 183 The PAC run by conservative Evan McMullen has thrown in 500k to support the Dem in the NC special election.
Posted by: Ha at September 09, 2019 01:57 PM (MAstk)


What a complete piece of sh**. And a traitor too boot.

Egg McMuffin is doing his best to bring on the burning times.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 02:06 PM (sy5kK)

240 http://bit.ly/2ZTTGks
*******
Mass. mayor arrested on new extortion charges | One America News Network

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 02:07 PM (BqBId)

241 Speaking of entitlements, how much better would the budget be if welfare benefits were not indexed to having more children?

You want welfare? Fine, here's a shot to prevent pregnancy. You had a kid after supposedly getting your shot? Too bad, so sad.

Or, better yet, no federal welfare. All welfare is moved down to the states and let them take care of it.

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 09, 2019 02:07 PM (qC1Sy)

242 Fred Sanford says that Mark is a great big dummy
Posted by: TheQuietMan

"I'll be a clean Old Man when I'm a dead Old Man."
--Mark Sanford quoting his friend Grady.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 09, 2019 02:06 PM (FTlwv)

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Wachitsuckkah!!!!

Posted by: First Lady Aunt Esther Obama at September 09, 2019 02:07 PM (8XRCm)

243 @realDonaldTrump
We have been serving as policemen in Afghanistan, and that was not meant to be the job of our Great Soldiers, the finest on earth. Over the last four days, we have been hitting our Enemy harder than at any time in the last ten years!

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That tweet says two different things doesn't it?

I'm not going to complain about some dead Taliban.

But I am sort of surprised he hasn't pulled the troops completely out of there.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:08 PM (sX1BW)

244 Re: trump and deficits etc...

I want "worse than trump" to include serious deficit cutting measures.

Trump was rolled by the treasonous cuck GOP in Congress. It's true, he signed emergency measures after saying he wouldn't. I'm sure this has been mentioned before.

But if the treasonous cuck GOP doesn't care about spending, in practice, why...how?...could Trump?

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 02:08 PM (thQkh)

245 Its time we come to the realization that the fault is not with Congress, it is with the people. Our only hope is that once the Boomers shrink in voting size, SS and medicare will be shelved and not replaced with something worse (i.e., medicare for all). Generation X will get screwed, but Millenials may not be as organized as the Boomers were. Time will tell.

Its not looking promising.
Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (sX1BW)



Ohhhhh generational warfare!

*scurries in*

Every Gen Xers I know has laughed wearily for decades about the notion that Social Security will exist by the time we can get it and that's now only about a decade up for the tippy top of Gen X.

To paint with the broadest possible brush, Gen X was the kids the Boomers had. Millennials are the kids the Boomers wanted and hence the spoiled bratdom. The few Gen X and upperend Millennials I know with kids/nieces/nephews who are Gen Z say Gen Z makes Millennials look like they went to military school.

Gen X is going to take it in the teeth. No Social Security. No Medicare. Inheritance taxes slammed back on so when the Boomers finally die off and we can sell the home in the NE or Bay Area or Coastal California and get some money BAM it's gone and the taxes to fund whatever gimme gimme the Millennials want.

After all, there's, what, twice as many of them?

Whatever.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 09, 2019 02:08 PM (mf5HN)

246 in the end, but pre-Trump he had the makings of a future presidential candidate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:01 PM (iikV


And just that makes me glad he blew up on the launch pad.


(phrasing!)

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 02:08 PM (hLRSq)

247 Sanford has found another sugar momma and this one hates Trump and America, is my guess.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 01:54 PM (Qb6F

Colon Kaepernick's GF is two-timing him?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 02:08 PM (jEgzt)

248 @realDonaldTrump
We have been serving as policemen in Afghanistan, and that was not meant to be the job of our Great Soldiers, the finest on earth. Over the last four days, we have been hitting our Enemy harder than at any time in the last ten years!



CNN Chyron:

BIDEN MOCKS TRUMP'S CLAIM OF SERVING AS POLICE OFFICER IN AFGHANISTAN.

Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 02:08 PM (786Ro)

249 Cuck-a Cuck-a Cuck-a Cuck-a Cuck-a chameleon......

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)

250 While this post is highly amusing, it sort of galls me that Ace used about 1000x the brainpower in his response as Deez Ill-eet Pundits use blathering their self-rationalization nonsense.

Also it gives them attention, which at this point, argh, I kind of hate to do...

BUT! but...it's good to remind ourselves what we're dealing with here. and maybe this post spreads around and wakes some people up.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 09, 2019 02:09 PM (Rarvo)

251 Mark Sanford is the perfect #NeverTrump "moral" choice for president

Jenny Sanford writes that Gov. Mark Sanford sought her advice about his romance and how to deal with the media after she discovered his extramarital relationship with an Argentine woman.
https://t.co/vTjpSqym85

Jenny Sanford recalls how she made the "leap of faith" to marry Mark Sanford even though the groom refused to promise to be faithful, insisting that the clause be removed from their wedding vows.
https://t.co/pdNTWk3d9n

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 09, 2019 02:09 PM (9BmSv)

252 On the whole "Social Security won't be there for me", it will.

You might get like 80 cents on the dollar, but it will be there.

Some compromise like raising the payroll cap, raising the retirement age, cutting some benefits will happen, but it's like the single most popular government program. Social Security will get funded before aircraft carriers.

SS is a terrible deal if you made decent money in your career, it's like less than 1% rate of return. But if you made very little over your life, it's a huge windfall for those people.

Posted by: Blago at September 09, 2019 02:09 PM (sjTfF)

253
Colon Kaepernick's GF is two-timing him?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 02:08 PM (jEgzt)


Can't be. She HATES whitey and ain't gonna be boffin one.

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:09 PM (Zz0t1)

254 The PAC run by conservative Evan McMullen has thrown in 500k to support the Dem in the NC special election.

--

IOW, his problem isn't with Trump. It's with Republicans.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 09, 2019 02:09 PM (JoUsr)

255
Unemployment and welfare rolls are down almost 12 million people.....

....yet there is no mechanism to adjust the needed dollars downward.

Budgetary increase still built in.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 09, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

256
Erick Erickson is a shithead and a retard.

Posted by: Weasel


I always come back here for elegantly expressed and lapidary statements like this.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2019 02:10 PM (MR5sC)

257 hate to say it but once the boomers die off, it's pure "bienvenido, marca uno para espaŮol and please press two for english"

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 02:10 PM (thQkh)

258 This thread is one epic bitch-slap of Jonah.


Now do Steve Hayes!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 09, 2019 02:10 PM (ptqGC)

259 Jonah Goldberg is a cuck

Mark Sanford is a fuck

Or it it the other way around?

Who knows.....

But....

what a stupid time to be alive

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at September 09, 2019 02:10 PM (vcOmj)

260 Gen X is going to take it in the teeth. No Social Security. No Medicare. Inheritance taxes slammed back on so when the Boomers finally die off and we can sell the home in the NE or Bay Area or Coastal California and get some money BAM it's gone and the taxes to fund whatever gimme gimme the Millennials want.

After all, there's, what, twice as many of them?

Whatever.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around



This x1000.

Gen X doesn't have the numbers to do fuckall to protect themselves when the SHTF fiscally.

Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 02:10 PM (786Ro)

261 204 yet have proven they suck in previous political roles.
Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 01:53 PM

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This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Pete B. at September 09, 2019 01:55 PM

Let me be clear, it certainly doesn't refer to me.
Posted by: B. Hussain Obama at September 09, 2019 02:00 PM (umX6V)


Why is everybody looking at me?

Posted by: Fiercely Heterosexual Cory Booker at September 09, 2019 02:10 PM (YqDXo)

262 "Every Gen Xers I know has laughed wearily for decades about the notion that Social Security will exist by the time we can get it and that's now only about a decade up for the tippy top of Gen X."


*looks at calendar*

How the heck did I get so old?

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 09, 2019 02:11 PM (hLRSq)

263 http://bit.ly/2ZJqZa4
*******
Democrats' 2018 Party Advantage COMPLETELY Disappears -- NY Times Hack Very Worried

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 02:11 PM (BqBId)

264 252
SS is a terrible deal if you made decent money in your career, it's like less than 1% rate of return. But if you made very little over your life, it's a huge windfall for those people.
Posted by: Blago at September 09, 2019 02:09 PM (sjTfF)

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Honestly, there should be a SS option that allows you to dump your own "earned" SS into T-bills.

Of course, it's not yours. It goes to current recipients. Like some sort of scheme...with a pyramid...Can't come up with the name...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:11 PM (iikV8)

265 Jenny Sanford recalls how she made the "leap of faith" to marry Mark Sanford even though the groom refused to promise to be faithful, insisting that the clause be removed from their wedding vows.
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M'kay. I may not be Dr. Phil, but that right there, is a problem.

Posted by: I'm not Dr. Phil at September 09, 2019 02:11 PM (y4WjF)

266 Gen X was the kids the Boomers had

no, most Xers had Silents for parents. maaaaayyyyybe the youngest had boomer parents - I'm dead center Gen X and it was about half and half Boomer and Silent parents?

And you can tell, whew, you can definitely tell!

so, millennials are the Boomers kids, I'd say. In general.

not that we did that much better. our Gen Z kids are LOCO! they eat weird stuff

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 09, 2019 02:11 PM (Rarvo)

267 224 Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
We have been serving as policemen in Afghanistan, and that was not meant to be the job of our Great Soldiers, the finest on earth. Over the last four days, we have been hitting our Enemy harder than at any time in the last ten years!
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 02:04 PM (BqBId)

Huh, somebody was saying something about Linebacker III somewhere.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 02:12 PM (RD7QR)

268 actually thanks to the boomers it's going to be:

"bienvenido, marca uno para espanol...svaagat hai, krpaya hindee ke lie do daayal karen..and please press 3 for english"

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 02:12 PM (thQkh)

269 Yeah, Kamalamadingdong was standing like 12 feet from that not-so-thickly-accented "retard" yeller.

She fking heard him loud and clear. She's a liar, the MFM covering for her are liars. All liars.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 02:12 PM (O8WFE)

270 SS is a terrible deal if you made decent money in your career, it's like less than 1% rate of return. But if you made very little over your life, it's a huge windfall for those people.
Posted by: Blago
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Sugar, If'n I get back what I put in plus 1%, I'll be delirious with joy.

Posted by: I'm not Paul Krugman at September 09, 2019 02:13 PM (KpOSn)

271 This x1000.

Gen X doesn't have the numbers to do fuckall to protect themselves when the SHTF fiscally.

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No we don't. But we have one thing in common with the Boomers that the millenials do not. Cohesion. A shared background. And maybe we can exploit that against the Millenials and Gen Z.

I expect GenX to lead the way, doing the smart thing, which will screw us, but that is our lot in life.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:13 PM (sX1BW)

272 269 Yeah, Kamalamadingdong was standing like 12 feet from that not-so-thickly-accented "retard" yeller.

She fking heard him loud and clear. She's a liar, the MFM covering for her are liars. All liars.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 02:12 PM (O8WFE)

==========

Microtargeted ad idea:

"Kamala laughs at the plight of the mentally disabled. Vote for Buttigieg, he'd never laugh at the disabled."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:13 PM (iikV8)

273 263 http://bit.ly/2ZJqZa4
*******
Democrats' 2018 Party Advantage COMPLETELY Disappears -- NY Times Hack Very Worried
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 02:11 PM (BqBId)
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Let me guess, people are starting to pay attention to the Democrat nomination process and saying "WTF?"

Posted by: WisRich at September 09, 2019 02:13 PM (G0vdT)

274 Its time we come to the realization that the fault is not with Congress, it is with the people. Our only hope is that once the Boomers shrink in voting size, SS and medicare will be shelved and not replaced with something worse (i.e., medicare for all). Generation X will get screwed, but Millenials may not be as organized as the Boomers were. Time will tell.

Its not looking promising.
Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:02 PM (sX1BW)



Dirty little secret: If there was the political will to jack up the starting ages for Social Security and Medicare to at least 75, we would have this under control.

It would still be a trans generational chain letter scheme, but it would at least be a sustainable one.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:13 PM (ujg0T)

275 SS is a terrible deal if you made decent money in your career, it's like less than 1% rate of return. But if you made very little over your life, it's a huge windfall for those people.
Posted by: Blago


Your return is good or bad, depending on how long you live after retirement. If you live long enough, you will get back more than you paid in. If you die within 5 years of retirement, you will not get it all back.

It would be better if you OWNED the money, and could pass it on to your surviving heirs.

My Dad died relatively young, and never saw a dime of his SS money. My sister got some for a while, as she was under 18 when he died, but just a fraction of what he paid in. Probably.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at September 09, 2019 02:13 PM (vcOmj)

276 SS is a terrible deal if you made decent money in your career, it's like less than 1% rate of return. But if you made very little over your life, it's a huge windfall for those people.
Posted by: Blago at September 09, 2019 02:09 PM (sjTfF)


It's also a tax on financial prudence, and a subsidy of the spendthrift.

Hit retirement age and have eff-all in the bank? Then bleat about how SS "isn't enough to live on."

Newsflash: it's not SUPPOSED to be enough to live on. It's supposed to be a small sweetener to your retirement savings. That's it.

Posted by: Fiercely Heterosexual Cory Booker at September 09, 2019 02:14 PM (YqDXo)

277 sock off

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 02:14 PM (YqDXo)

278 There was a NOOD. Then there wasn't a NOOD.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 02:14 PM (O8WFE)

279 yeah, gen x has been fucked ever since clinton got elected thanks to Perot...we just didn't notice it until the H1B's took all the college educated jobs and the you know who took all the blue collar jobs. and we're not allowed to said fuckall about it, lest the great HR ruling class blacklists us.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 02:14 PM (thQkh)

280 But Bush and McCain made some speeches about pork barrel spending on things like highways and bridges.
Posted by: Blago at September 09, 2019 02:04 PM (sjTfF)


Epstein victim says McCain fucked her, so McCain was blackmailed to be a liberal fuck because he couldn't control his dick like 90% of Washington.

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

281 276 Newsflash: it's not SUPPOSED to be enough to live on. It's supposed to be a small sweetener to your retirement savings. That's it.
Posted by: Fiercely Heterosexual Cory Booker at September 09, 2019 02:14 PM (YqDXo)

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Yeah, and the income tax was only supposed to affect the top 1%.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:14 PM (iikV8)

282 Sanford declared his candidacy in a lengthy thread on Twitter, where he stated that he considers "our nation's debt, deficits, and spending"

Nobody really believes that anybody in the republicrat uniparty even pretends to care about spending or debt anymore do they? I wonder what his real motivation is as he certainly knows that this abortion of a "campaign" isn't going to go anywhere. Must be angling for a gig on CNN or MSDNC.

Posted by: I Have Questions at September 09, 2019 02:14 PM (BvNzB)

283 Trump and Sanford cheated on their wives. Bill Clinton raped one woman, sexually assaulted another, Harrassed yet another, and was a frequent client of Jeff epstein.


When bill Clinton is in jail we can start to talk about the moral failings of right of center politicians.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (3cfl2)

284 Epstein victim says McCain fucked her

You're gonna make Meggie Mac cry.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (O8WFE)

285 Dirty little secret: If there was the political will to jack up the starting ages for Social Security and Medicare to at least 75, we would have this under control.

------------

That political will will come in about 5-10 years when all the Boomers reach said age.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (sX1BW)

286 I expect GenX to lead the way, doing the smart thing, which will screw us, but that is our lot in life.


I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness; starving; hysterical...

We're too few and too desperate. We won't do a single thing, maybe we can keep safe a little bit of our wonderful past and Western culture for some future, better day.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (Rarvo)

287 Dirty little secret: If there was the political will to jack up the starting ages for Social Security and Medicare to at least 75, we would have this under control.

It would still be a trans generational chain letter scheme, but it would at least be a sustainable one.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:13 PM (ujg0T)


My social security update says I can't retire and get full "benefits" until I'm 72, so they're close.

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)

288 Gen X was the kids the Boomers had

no, most Xers had Silents for parents. maaaaayyyyybe the youngest had boomer parents - I'm dead center Gen X and it was about half and half Boomer and Silent parents?

And you can tell, whew, you can definitely tell!

so, millennials are the Boomers kids, I'd say. In general.

not that we did that much better. our Gen Z kids are LOCO! they eat weird stuff
Posted by: BlackOrchid

___________

I was close to the tail end, I definitely noticed a difference between my friends that had boomer parents versus the ones that had "Silents"

My parents were Silents.

Posted by: Blago at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (sjTfF)

289 Jenny Sanford recalls how she made the "leap of faith" to marry Mark Sanford even though the groom refused to promise to be faithful, insisting that the clause be removed from their wedding vows.

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Wait till you see what he redacts from the oath of office!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (+y/Ru)

290 We'll end the income tax as soon as we get these World War One debts paid off.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 09, 2019 02:16 PM (FTlwv)

291 Sponge do you have a link to McCain being an Epstein client?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2019 02:16 PM (3cfl2)

292
You're gonna make Meggie Mac cry.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (O8WFE)


Why? I didn't close the Golden Corral in her neighborhood.

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)

293 283 Trump and Sanford cheated on their wives. Bill Clinton raped one woman, sexually assaulted another, Harrassed yet another, and was a frequent client of Jeff epstein.


When bill Clinton is in jail we can start to talk about the moral failings of right of center politicians.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (3cfl2)

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I think one of the greatest piece of Liberal blindness on this stuff is the Entertainment Weekly review of Chappaquiddick.

The guy (I think it's Owen G.) talks about how it's important to make peace with the fact that Ted Kennedy was a monster (10 years after his death and 50 years after he killed a girl) in order to clear their consciences and fight Trump more effectively. It's absurd, but he believed that by finally casting off a guy who's been dead a decade will give them greater moral authority to fight a present political fight.

Progressivism: not even once, kids.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:17 PM (iikV8)

294 We're too few and too desperate.

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We'll be the generals, not the infantry.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:17 PM (sX1BW)

295 284 Epstein victim says McCain fucked her

You're gonna make Meggie Mac cry.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 02:15 PM (O8WFE)

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Oh, the View is gonna get interesting.

Theory: Trump knew about this allegation when he first started fighting McCain head on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:17 PM (iikV8)

296 To paint with the broadest possible brush, Gen X was the kids the Boomers had.


In fairness to alexthechick, most Generation Xers I know, including me, were the products of "Silent Generation" parents. Too young to be in WW2, but too old to be in the Vietnam draft I think.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:17 PM (ujg0T)

297
Epstein victim says McCain fucked her, so McCain was blackmailed to be a liberal fuck because he couldn't control his dick like 90% of Washington.
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*my shocked face*

Posted by: its like we are ruled by degenerates is this ancient Rome? at September 09, 2019 02:17 PM (uFHk4)

298 I always figured that my SS benefits will be means tested and I'll be fucked.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 09, 2019 02:18 PM (FTlwv)

299 Newsflash: it's not SUPPOSED to be enough to live on. It's supposed to be a small sweetener to your retirement savings. That's it.

AKSHUALLY

It was designed as a vote-buying scheme from the jump. The first recipients paid little, if anything, into it.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 09, 2019 02:18 PM (l8gTz)

300 yeah, gen x has been fucked ever since clinton got elected thanks to Perot...we just didn't notice it until the H1B's took all the college educated jobs and the you know who took all the blue collar jobs. and we're not allowed to said fuckall about it, lest the great HR ruling class blacklists us.


Accurate.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 09, 2019 02:18 PM (Rarvo)

301 Yeah, and the income tax was only supposed to affect the top 1%.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:14 PM (iikV


Yep. And the toll on the Bay Bridge was supposed to be removed once the bridge was paid for. Which happened about 60 years ago.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 02:18 PM (YqDXo)

302 Trump slept with an easy-lay porn star.

The correct term is titty-banged sir.

Posted by: DaveA at September 09, 2019 02:18 PM (FhXTo)

303 The power of strange overwhelmed him. It happens. Hopefully is was good pussy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM (2LelM)

304 It was designed as a vote-buying scheme from the jump. The first recipients paid little, if anything, into it.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 09, 2019 02:18 PM (l8gTz)


Yep, that's also true, but I was addressing its nominal purpose.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM (YqDXo)

305 Ace "woah world" ad inserts for glam tranny are actively disgusting

Posted by: Phunktor at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM (pP50C)

306 Sponge do you have a link to McCain being an Epstein client?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2019 02:16 PM (3cfl2)



Remove Spaces:

https://www.dcclothesline.com/2019/09/08/ jessica-collins-self-proclaimed-epstein-victim- says-she-was-forced-into- sex-with-joe-biden-and-john-mccain/

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)

307 How could she? He was in fucking Argentina, having deserted his post to get some strange.
And this is the one area where having said, "He's fucking in Argentina..." would be correct, Eliza. And, yes, I know you're a good girl and not like that slut... Pickering!

Posted by: Professor Henry Higgins, Tongue Doctor at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM (Dh1wo)

308 >>Epstein victim says McCain fucked her

*Slap*

**Slap - Slap **


Call me Maverick!

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM (ViZFb)

309 "Take me home, country roads, to the place I belong, West Virginia, mountain mama, take me home, country roads." Mark Sanford, yeah, right.

Posted by: mrp at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (Pqytn)

310 No we don't. But we have one thing in common with the Boomers that the millenials do not. Cohesion. A shared background. And maybe we can exploit that against the Millenials and Gen Z.

I expect GenX to lead the way, doing the smart thing, which will screw us, but that is our lot in life.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:13 PM (sX1BW)



A few years back now, probably 2013 or so, someone wrote a piece about Gen X being the caretakers of two generations, their parents and their kids. And about how Gen X just shuts up and does it and, hey, man, I'm exhausted and can I just maybe have a beer and a smoke and sit here and listen to some Mudhoney for like ten minutes? No? Cool. Cool. Fine, we'll just take care of stuff and make sure everyone gets what they need and continue to raise ourselves just like we always have.

Still want the beer and smoke though.

It was well put.

It's come up in the reactions to Stranger Things and it was also mentioned during the Kavanaugh hearings, but Millennials have no idea, none, not the first hint, of just how left alone Gen X was. Hell, I grew up in the most religious of religious circles with something like 80% stay at home/work part time moms and it was utterly normal when I was in junior high and high school to come home and be the only one there from say, 2:30 to 5:30. Just completely normal.

Latchkey kid generation, after all. Most Kids These Days have no experience of that or of being able to go completely off grid for hours, hell, days at a time.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (mf5HN)

311 300 yeah, gen x has been fucked ever since clinton got elected thanks to Perot...we just didn't notice it until the H1B's took all the college educated jobs and the you know who took all the blue collar jobs. and we're not allowed to said fuckall about it, lest the great HR ruling class blacklists us.


Accurate.
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Genocide is painful.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (2LelM)

312 onestly, there should be a SS option that allows you to dump your own "earned" SS into T-bills.

Of course, it's not yours. It goes to current recipients. Like some sort of scheme...with a pyramid...Can't come up with the name...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:11 PM (iikV

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Wanna do something that will REALLY piss you off???

Calculate what the value all of your SS contributions could be worth over your working lifetime.

My first dollar went in in 1978. I once put together a spreadsheet with my contributions indexed to the S&P 500, which is what I would have put those into if I had a choice to invest those dollars. I adjusted balances quarterly just to keep the math and the size of the sheet manageable, which means Im compounding only four times a year rather than 26 (paid every other week for all of my life) Doing this would understate my growth.

So....Right now..... my current balance for those dollars would be north of 1.2 million dollars. I could retire WITHOUT having to draw a single penny of SS.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (8XRCm)

313 >>Epstein victim says McCain fucked her


He fucked us all, honey.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (ViZFb)

314 309 "Take me home, country roads, to the place I belong, West Virginia, mountain mama, take me home, country roads." Mark Sanford, yeah, right.
Posted by: mrp at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (Pqytn)

=========

Best sung by Mark Strong in Kingsman: The Golden Circle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (iikV8)

315 306 Sponge do you have a link to McCain being an Epstein client?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2019 02:16 PM (3cfl2)


Remove Spaces:

https://www.dcclothesline.com/2019/09/08/ jessica-collins-self-proclaimed-epstein-victim- says-she-was-forced-into- sex-with-joe-biden-and-john-mccain/
Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)
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And Biden? I'm smelling a Blassy-Ford rat.

Posted by: WisRich at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (G0vdT)

316
Pop, at your age you ain't got wild oats, you got shredded wheat.

Posted by: Lamont Sanford at September 09, 2019 02:21 PM (t5m5e)

317
Of course, it's not yours. It goes to current recipients. Like some sort of scheme...with a pyramid...Can't come up with the name...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier


We need a lock box.

Posted by: Al Gore at September 09, 2019 02:21 PM (aKsyK)

318 Yep. And the toll on the Bay Bridge was supposed to be removed once the bridge was paid for. Which happened about 60 years ago.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 02:18 PM (YqDXo)



And THEN it was supposed to be for building more bridges, most notably a "Southern Crossing". Which IS badly needed, but Luddite eco-fiends had and still have delusions, so it never was.

And THEN it went to BART, where it has been since.

And going up higher year after year.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:21 PM (ujg0T)

319 Sanford should acknowledge it and say he suspects the nation would rather a President who might take a hike than take to Twitter.
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Uh, no he shouldn't, genius, because Sanford didn't actually take a hike, dummy. The hike story was the lie he used to cover for the fact that he'd taken a flight to Argentina to schtup his lover.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 09, 2019 02:21 PM (k4dH2)

320 I think Jonah Goldberg saw that meme about buzzfeed using dildos to pick the topics for their articles and then was like now I know what all these things are my wife keeps around the house are for.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 09, 2019 02:21 PM (yL25O)

321 And Biden? I'm smelling a Blassy-Ford rat.
Posted by: WisRich at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (G0vdT)


Certainly not unfeasible.

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

322 Every Gen Xers I know has laughed wearily for decades about the notion that Social Security will exist by the time we can get it and that's now only about a decade up for the tippy top of Gen X.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 09, 2019 02:08 PM (mf5HN)

This. People forget that Gen X has another name. Baby Busters. The flip side of the Baby Boom. There just aren't enough of us to make a blip on the political screen. What we want is made irrelevant by the two much larger generations that both preceeded and followed.

Any solution to the problems will be borne by Gen X because of this. Ask the Notch babies (those that are left) how this works. But we have expected this for decades, and many of us have made sure that we won't have to be dependent upon Social Security in our dotage.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at September 09, 2019 02:22 PM (m4pA7)

323 314 309 "Take me home, country roads, to the place I belong, West Virginia, mountain mama, take me home, country roads." Mark Sanford, yeah, right.
Posted by: mrp at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (Pqytn)

=========

Best sung by Mark Strong in Kingsman: The Golden Circle.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (iikV


I like Toots & The Maytals' version best. Sweet Jamaica, mountain mama...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 09, 2019 02:22 PM (O8WFE)

324 >>And Biden?


50 Flavors of Paste

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 02:22 PM (ViZFb)

325 Yep. And the toll on the Bay Bridge was supposed to be removed once the bridge was paid for. Which happened about 60 years ago.

Wasn't there a telecom tax that was supposed to pay for the Spanish-American War that only semi-recently got repealed?

also:

Yep, that's also true, but I was addressing its nominal purpose.

Fair. There's the stated purpose, and the secret actual corrupt purpose.

(This, too, is the story of Obama.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 09, 2019 02:22 PM (l8gTz)

326 And THEN it went to BART, where it has been since.

And going up higher year after year.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:21 PM (ujg0T)


Busing Africans 'Round Town.

It's what I've heard......

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

327 Wanna do something that will REALLY piss you off???

Calculate what the value all of your SS contributions could be worth over your working lifetime.
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Recognize you have to compete against H1B visa holder who doesn't have the FICA cost borne by the employer. Pretty sure that guy, who lowered your wages, will enjoy the benefits of your with holding. Our Elite are very generous to their pets.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 09, 2019 02:23 PM (2LelM)

328 Tolerating a cheating spouse is a class signifier of long standing. There's different focus for the idea of fidelity when marriage involves family and business mergers. Being faithful to the *marriage* has little to do with sex then. It has to do with being faithful to the economic (or political, or social) partnership. A wife isn't threatened by any number of bimbos because bimbos aren't really people, not that count anyway. And the expectation of the husband is that he won't embarrass his wife within their social circles.

So what work is being done to recover a marriage after infidelity? Is the wife being asked to trust that he won't *cheat* on her again? Or is she finding a way to trust that he won't be sloppy about it again?

I don't know if the wealthy in the US follow this much anymore. They just get divorced and move on. But our *political class* seem to insist upon it.

But working class people see the *cheating* as the problem and the focus of proof that someone is not trustworthy and never will be trustworthy.

But everyone at least knows someone close to them who's divorced even if they never have been. It's a really common thing. So how upset are people supposed to get about someone, even the president, being divorced? In the end it's going to seem relatable and at least marginally more honest than not getting divorced when you've been betrayed.

Posted by: Synova at September 09, 2019 02:23 PM (BD/yx)

329 319 Sanford should acknowledge it and say he suspects the nation would rather a President who might take a hike than take to Twitter.
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Uh, no he shouldn't, genius, because Sanford didn't actually take a hike, dummy. The hike story was the lie he used to cover for the fact that he'd taken a flight to Argentina to schtup his lover.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 09, 2019 02:21 PM (k4dH2)

....

I think America would rather have a president that makes booty calls to Argentina behind his wife than a president who Tweets.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 09, 2019 02:23 PM (yL25O)

330 Genocide is painful.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (2LelM)

Much different song than Suicide is Painless.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, With a Broken Brain at September 09, 2019 02:23 PM (xPJvm)

331 -
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https://www.dcclothesline.com/2019/09/08/
jessica-collins-self-proclaimed-epstein-victim-
says-she-was-forced-into- sex-with-joe-biden-and-john-mccain/

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM

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This is starting to sound a bit like the Kavanaugh stuff, but who the hell knows these days.

Posted by: irright at September 09, 2019 02:23 PM (pMGkg)

332 Sexual Congress is the fourth branch of the government.

Posted by: Fritz at September 09, 2019 02:23 PM (kLDv+)

333 The guy (I think it's Owen G.) talks about how it's important to make peace with the fact that Ted Kennedy was a monster (10 years after his death and 50 years after he killed a girl) in order to clear their consciences and fight Trump more effectively. It's absurd, but he believed that by finally casting off a guy who's been dead a decade will give them greater moral authority to fight a present political fight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:17 PM (iikV


Peace and a clear conscience without atonement? No dice.

Besides which, to clear Democrats' consciences would be like cleaning the Augean Stable. It wasn't just Ted Kennedy, it was pretty much ALL of the Kennedys, plus the Clintons, plus the whiffy Obama Administration, plus the CBC, plus any number of other Democrat politicians.

So, young Owen, you lot have a shitload of atonement to perform.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 02:23 PM (YqDXo)

334 Pop, at your age you ain't got wild oats, you got shredded wheat.

Posted by: Lamont Sanford at September 09, 2019 02:21 PM (t5m5e)

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More like Grape Nuts.

Posted by: mrp at September 09, 2019 02:24 PM (Pqytn)

335 It's come up in the reactions to Stranger Things and it was also mentioned during the Kavanaugh hearings, but Millennials have no idea, none, not the first hint, of just how left alone Gen X was.

I honestly feel really bad kids don't have the freedom we had.

I actually try to replicate it, but they're on their own - when I was in high school I used to take the bus/train combo with some friends into philly all the time. I showed my kid how it's done, but they would have to go alone. no other parents would ever let them go, middle of the day, normal septa train into center city. nope, no way.

high school kids today, most of their (sadly, Xer) parents won't let them go to the MALL on their own

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 09, 2019 02:24 PM (Rarvo)

336 It's come up in the reactions to Stranger Things and it was also mentioned during the Kavanaugh hearings, but Millennials have no idea, none, not the first hint, of just how left alone Gen X was. Hell, I grew up in the most religious of religious circles with something like 80% stay at home/work part time moms and it was utterly normal when I was in junior high and high school to come home and be the only one there from say, 2:30 to 5:30. Just completely normal.

Latchkey kid generation, after all. Most Kids These Days have no experience of that or of being able to go completely off grid for hours, hell, days at a time.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (mf5HN)



THIS. It does strike me how much more regimented the time of kids is these days.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:24 PM (ujg0T)

337
Remove Spaces:

https://www.dcclothesline.com/2019/09/08/ jessica-collins-self-proclaimed-epstein-victim- says-she-was-forced-into- sex-with-joe-biden-and-john-mccain/
Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)
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And Biden? I'm smelling a Blassy-Ford rat.
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And you thought I couldn't clear the field.

*shart* *Cackle* *hack*

Posted by: guess who at September 09, 2019 02:24 PM (uFHk4)

338 There just aren't enough of us to make a blip on the political screen. What we want is made irrelevant by the two much larger generations that both preceeded and followed.

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That's why we have to play those two generations against one another. We can't just control the culture like the Boomers did. But we can guide it.

Its our only hope - and the country's only hope.

Thankfully, the current crop of millenial leaders is not that impressive (e.g., AOC).

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:24 PM (sX1BW)

339 @CourthouseNews

Police Union Backs Trump for Re-Election in 2020

Posted by: Tami at September 09, 2019 02:24 PM (cF8AT)

340 A blog full of "29" year olds bashing on Gen X'ers(?) As a GenX I say bring it on whippersnappers!!!

Posted by: JROD at September 09, 2019 02:24 PM (24wi6)

341 >>Epstein victim says McCain fucked her


Join the club, toots.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 09, 2019 02:25 PM (ptqGC)

342 This is starting to sound a bit like the Kavanaugh stuff, but who the hell knows these days.

Posted by: irright at September 09, 2019 02:23 PM (pMGkg)


I'm starting to take the Eddie Murphy stance on this stuff......

"If you're gonna believe the myths, believe ALL them shits.....We like chicken.....Fatback....Grits......We got big dicks......"

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)

343 That's gonna leave a mark ... nice takedown using Jonah's own rope to erotically hang himself, Ace.

Posted by: ShainS -- Cancel #ErasureCulture at September 09, 2019 02:26 PM (fG738)

344 326 And THEN it went to BART, where it has been since.

And going up higher year after year.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:21 PM (ujg0T)

Busing Africans 'Round Town.

It's what I've heard......
Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)



It's actually a rail system, and IF you happen to work in the Financial Districts of SF or Downtown "Oaktown", it actually works, if they would remove the homeless pooping and peeing in the vicinity of stations.

For the rest of us, not so much.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:26 PM (ujg0T)

345 333 The guy (I think it's Owen G.) talks about how it's important to make peace with the fact that Ted Kennedy was a monster (10 years after his death and 50 years after he killed a girl) in order to clear their consciences and fight Trump more effectively. It's absurd, but he believed that by finally casting off a guy who's been dead a decade will give them greater moral authority to fight a present political fight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 02:17 PM (iikV

Peace and a clear conscience without atonement? No dice.

Besides which, to clear Democrats' consciences would be like cleaning the Augean Stable. It wasn't just Ted Kennedy, it was pretty much ALL of the Kennedys, plus the Clintons, plus the whiffy Obama Administration, plus the CBC, plus any number of other Democrat politicians.

So, young Owen, you lot have a shitload of atonement to perform.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 02:23 PM (YqDXo)

...

I think maybe if Hollywood comes up with a Springtime for Kennedys musical we can all laugh and move on.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 09, 2019 02:27 PM (yL25O)

346 ======================
More like Grape Nuts.
Posted by: mrp at September 09, 2019 02:24 PM (Pqytn)


I ate Grape Nuts once. Then I shit my pants in The White House and had to throw my undies away in The White House bathroom.

Posted by: Al Roker at September 09, 2019 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

347 321
And Biden? I'm smelling a Blassy-Ford rat.

Posted by: WisRich at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (G0vdT)



Certainly not unfeasible.

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

++++Would not shock me in the least. Both McCain (had) and Biden (has) the most unimaginably high opinions of themselves, and most certainly included would be the exalted male virility trait. Even if they have to pay for it and pretty much pretend that they are desirable to the young lasses.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 09, 2019 02:27 PM (9+jnX)

348 Nood Sidney Blumenthal

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 09, 2019 02:27 PM (FTlwv)

349
Governor Sanford, what was more difficult on the AT -- slipping into slick and dark caverns, or ascending twin peaks on which there were no footholds?

"Am I being facetious?" you ask. Why, no, not at all!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 09, 2019 02:27 PM (pNxlR)

350 Has Trump had an affair while in office? Has he had a BJ by a 21 year old intern under the resolute desk?

Not all affairs are created equally.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 02:27 PM (sX1BW)

351 Geez Ace, you're now plagiarizing all of my cuckiest of cuckiest stuff. Of course I am a "Gifted Grifter", learned it from mom. Anyways, I drank all of your milk in the fridge and finished off the KaBoom too. Just thought I let my housemate know...
PS: My appropriate aged wife is 56 and I'm 50.

Posted by: Cap'n Joney "Master Beta Orbiter" Goldberg at September 09, 2019 02:27 PM (2nW6u)

352 Sex with Biden and McCain. Ewwwww. I think that thought may have turned me off forever.

Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 02:27 PM (oiNtH)

353 311 300 yeah, gen x has been fucked ever since clinton got elected thanks to Perot...we just didn't notice it until the H1B's took all the college educated jobs and the you know who took all the blue collar jobs. and we're not allowed to said fuckall about it, lest the great HR ruling class blacklists us.


Accurate.
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Genocide is painful.

++++++++++

yeah, and even noticing it is like colonialism and white nationalism all rolled into one.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 02:27 PM (thQkh)

354 298 I always figured that my SS benefits will be means tested and I'll be fucked.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 09, 2019 02:18 PM (FTlwv)



In a way, they already are. Past a certain level of other non SS income and the benefits become subject to "progressive" income taxation.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:28 PM (ujg0T)

355 In fairness to alexthechick, most Generation Xers I know, including me, were the products of "Silent Generation" parents. Too young to be in WW2, but too old to be in the Vietnam draft I think.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:17 PM (ujg0T)


Yeah, that's probably true.

Like I said, broadest brush and there's exceptions and not all Boomers, etc.

I've said for decades now that there are going to be a huge number of Gen X parents who ignored their kids their entire lives and even now care only about the grandkids who expect fully that their kids will be the ones taking care of them and the kids are going to whisper no.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 09, 2019 02:28 PM (mf5HN)

356 Gen X is way cooler than anything that came after it. We knew enough about to computers to use them and we had enough social skills to not stick our goddammed faces in our phones all day.

The boomers are too isolated in communities with ahem "good schools" to even see how they ruined the country.

the millenials are worthless, I've heard promise about the zoomers but I assume they're even more worthless and tranny.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 02:29 PM (thQkh)

357 Andrew
@primofederalist
Replying to@EWErickson
LOL. If you embrace this idiocy you're done. You jackasses in Conservative, Inc who make money off of being conservative/GOP base as well as the MSM. You pull a stunt like this you deserve to be ignored by us indefinitely.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 09, 2019 02:29 PM (wiXsO)

358 315 306 Sponge do you have a link to McCain being an Epstein client?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2019 02:16 PM (3cfl2)

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)
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And Biden? I'm smelling a Blassy-Ford rat.
Posted by: WisRich at September 09, 2019 02:20 PM (G0vdT)


I'm reading "The Great Terror" now, and it reads increasingly like current events as people denounce others to the secret police, then the denouncers get denounced to the secret police, then the secret police get denounced by other secret police, etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 02:29 PM (YqDXo)

359 Biden and McCain.
At the same time?!?!?

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at September 09, 2019 02:30 PM (DB16e)

360 the boomers were cool for a second but the coolest kids were the pre-gen-x'rs like in in Dazed and Confused.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 09, 2019 02:31 PM (thQkh)

361 He was in fucking Argentina, having deserted his post to get some strange.
_________________

Yeah, and Sanford had publicly betrayed and embarrassed his wife, his sons, his constituents, etc., to be with that Argentine woman, who he claimed was the true love of his life and he couldn't stand to be apart from her, etc.

Then, after Jenny Sanford divorced him and the Argentinian squeeze wanted to get married to him, Sanford put a long, rambling post on FB saying "hey, what's the hurry?" and shit like that, and then the Argentine squeeze publicly dumped him, and said in the media that she was tired of being strung along and believed Sanford had been using her (although there have been reports that they later got back together -- though they still are not married). So if this Argentine woman was so important to Sanford, why hasn't he married her? Or was his "Appalachian trail hike" affair just an excuse for some bad marital behavior, because that's what it looks like.

Meanwhile, Jenny Sanford got re-married to a retired investment banker last year, and she seems to be very happy now.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 09, 2019 02:31 PM (k4dH2)

362 If anything requiring his presence happened, they'd have had Civil Air Patrol and the National Guard scouring the length of the Trail looking for him.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 09, 2019 02:32 PM (gYCKx)

363 "Mr. Goldberg is tribe. "

oh look, an anti Semite. that's original.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 02:32 PM (Qb6F8)

364 new sitcom - Sanford and Erickson
Ya big dummy

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 09, 2019 02:32 PM (5l6gb)

365 I've said for decades now that there are going to be a huge number of Gen X parents who ignored their kids their entire lives and even now care only about the grandkids who expect fully that their kids will be the ones taking care of them and the kids are going to whisper no.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 09, 2019 02:28 PM (mf5HN)



In fairness, the Gen X parents I know very much DO helicopter parent and regiment their kids, as I think a response to the attitude of benign neglect they received as kids in the 1970's and 1980s, which in retrospect was not so benign.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:33 PM (ujg0T)

366 most Generation Xers I know, including me, were the products of "Silent Generation" parents. Too young to be in WW2, but too old to be in the Vietnam draft I think.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 02:17 PM (ujg0T)

Yup. that's me. Dad was a Marine well after Korea, and well before Vietnam. Both parents born during WWII.

And Stranger Things looked a lot like my childhood, except for the monsters.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, With a Broken Brain at September 09, 2019 02:33 PM (xPJvm)

367 I've said for decades now that there are going to be a huge number of Gen X parents who ignored their kids their entire lives and even now care only about the grandkids who expect fully that their kids will be the ones taking care of them and the kids are going to whisper no.


I assume you meant Boomers here? and yeah. those dudes are all gonna be lonely in the nursing home.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 09, 2019 02:35 PM (Rarvo)

368 And Stranger Things looked a lot like my childhood, except for the monsters.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, With a Broken Brain at September 09, 2019 02:33 PM (xPJvm)



Me too, Dungeons and Dragons, BMX bikes and walkie talkies.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 09, 2019 02:36 PM (5l6gb)

369 BlackOrchid

Some Boomer will burn out before they rust out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 09, 2019 02:36 PM (u82oZ)

370 And I must have missed any of PDT's ex-wives dying of cancer at all let alone during the affair. In fact, I recall all of his exes said they were voting for him.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 09, 2019 02:39 PM (Dh1wo)

371 Alex is exactly right on this. I am a gen xer. When I was twelve I was watching my younger siblings as both my parents worked. I learned to cook and to keep house because I had to.

These days I watch my elderly parents. If they end up living as long as their parents did I will end up having had 30 years as a caretaker.

Rewarding work in fellowship of family department but a real net loser in terms of money made.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at September 09, 2019 02:39 PM (B06Zw)

372 Inheritance taxes slammed back on so when the Boomers finally die off and we can sell the home in the NE or Bay Area or Coastal California and get some money BAM it's gone and the taxes to fund whatever gimme gimme the Millennials want.


Minor quibble: a lot of those homes are going to be sold off before then, or reverse mortgaged to pull the remaining equity out, to finance the boomer's final years. They're already starting to discover that the 2000 sqft house in the upscale neighborhood isn't affordable for anyone to buy. Honestly, I wouldn't expect you to get much, if any, of an inheritance. The boomers never properly planned for it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 09, 2019 02:57 PM (wCmLp)

373 Forget the affair itself, I found his womanish dramatics and weeping excuse shuffling unmanly and selfish.

He had sons, and he made his bed with a woman whose connections could advance his career; and them became a ninnyfool for sexytimes, abandoning his political post as well as his wife.

What a sanctimonious windbag he is. Trailname MIMI.

Posted by: SarahWho might not be serious at September 09, 2019 03:25 PM (g1vnC)

374 Speaking of Erickson, he has a new morning talk show which replaced Brian Kilmeade's program on the local Cox station. Apparently, the local Athens, Ga station is the mother ship for his program which, I believe, is syndicated in Georgia at the moment. I thought his time was done but he seems to be slithering out of his hole again. Not that I miss Kilmeade.

Posted by: Henry Lee at September 09, 2019 03:38 PM (ZaZvt)

375 He's trailing badly. Appalachian-trailing.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (Ndje9)

376 122 "Where do these people find the heiress wives?"

Where da heir-asses at?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 09, 2019 04:55 PM (FA43N)

377 Well, Trump wasn't worth it, because who cares about a couple of Supreme Court judges, but sticking up for Sanford is a matter of principle now.

Posted by: PG at September 09, 2019 06:00 PM (iqCkn)

378 I know it's way late and everyone has long since moved on from this thread, but I cannot resist. This is the best takedown of the NeverTrumpers I've yet seen. It perfectly illustrates the glaring hypocrisy of Jonah Goldberg et al. regarding morality.

I well remember l'affaire Sanford. The astonishing thing about it is, it happened while he was serving as governor. He literally vanished from all communication for several days, if memory serves. It wasn't a dalliance from his past before he became a politician (e.g., Trump's infidelities). For all the anti-Trump leaks, no one has accused him of any hanky-panky in the White house (e.g., JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton), let alone disappearing for several days. So what Sanford did was actually substantively worse. And yet, he got (and still has) a pass from Con, Inc.

Posted by: Catoi at September 10, 2019 04:35 AM (PRj89)

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