In Case You Missed It: Black Novelist Walter Moseley, Writer of "Easy Rawlins" Detective Series, Quits Star Trek After SJW Rats on Him to Human Resources For Just Attempting to Tell a Story

Arthur K. posted this over the weekend.

Walter Moseley is the author of the Easy Rawlins series, about a black detective in 1940s/50s LA. In the mid-nineties, Denzel Washington played the character in an adaptation of the book Devil in a Blue Dress.

So he's a writer who also has his hand in cinematic endeavors. As well as a screenwriter.

Walter Moseley was hired to help write the very, very bad Star Trek: Discovery in season 3. From almost all accounts, it's a terrible show heavy on #Woke politics and light on actual Star Trek. They desperately need real writers.

The story Walter Moseley told in the writers room was, I'm guessing, an offering of a plot seed. He discussed an old-time's account casual, practical, non-malicious racism -- the questions that would be raised are these: If an authority keeping the peace routinely tramples people's rights, but with the goal of stopping internecine violence, should that authority be dismantled? Even if it comes at the cost of civil war? At what price ideals?

Seems to raise the sort of questions that Star Trek used to raise.

It's not the greatest idea ever, but 1, it hasn't been fleshed out yet, it's just a germ of an idea to get the creative process going and 2, even if the idea were ultimately rejected -- so what? The whole point of brainstorming is to pump out dozens of ideas, many of which will either be mediocre, half-baked, or outright bad.

There are no bad ideas in a brainstorming session, as they say.

Well -- except when snowflake SJWs are around.

Moseley relayed the story using the old-timey cop's casually racial language -- which I would insist is a valid choice, because that language is suggestive of a time and place and prevailing attitude that "African-American" would not be.

There's a big difference, when writing a Medieval-set story, using the words "central communal trash pit" and the word "middens."

Word choice matters. Writers ought to know that.

An SJW , probably contributing nothing but Progressive Stack points, didn't know that, and ratted to human resources about it.

And then human resources lectured Moseley.

And then Moseley said "F*** y'all, I'm quitting, you're totalitarian monster babies."

And then he wrote an editorial, almost a manifesto, demanding the right to free speech.


Sources note that HR called Mosley to inform the acclaimed writer and novelist that typical use of that word was a fireable offense but there was to be no course of action taken against him. Instead, HR informed Mosley that a writer in the room was uncomfortable with it and effectively wanted to ensure he was aware of the studio's policy.

"Earlier this year, I had just finished with the Snowfall writers’ room for the season when I took a similar job on a different show at a different network. I’d been in the new room for a few weeks when I got the call from human resources. A pleasant-sounding young man said, 'Mr. Mosley, it has been reported that you used the n-word in the writers’ room,'" Mosley wrote in the Times. "I replied, 'I am the N-word in the writers’ room.'"

Mosley went on to explain that the individual in HR said that while he was free to use that word in a script, he "could not say it." Mosley then clarified, "I hadn’t called anyone it. I just told a story about a cop who explained to me, on the streets of Los Angeles, that he stopped all n---ers in paddy neighborhoods and all paddies in n---er neighborhoods, because they were usually up to no good. I was telling a true story as I remembered it."

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"My answer to HR was to resign and move on. I was in a writers' room trying to be creative while at the same time being surveilled by unknown critics who would snitch on me to a disembodied voice over the phone," he wrote. "My every word would be scrutinized. Sooner or later I’d be fired or worse -- silenced."

While Mosley did not say he was immediately threatened with termination, he ultimately decided to leave the show. "My answer to HR was to resign and move on. I was in a writers’ room trying to be creative while at the same time being surveilled by unknown critics who would snitch on me to a disembodied voice over the phone," he wrote. "My every word would be scrutinized. Sooner or later I’d be fired or worse — silenced."

Yes, exactly -- they mean to serve as the Watchers in the Panopticon they've built for us.

Someone on the Midnight's Edge YouTube podcast pointed out an angle I think is probably right -- this all happened months ago. So why is Moseley only talking about it now?

The answer offered was: Because Dave Chappelle had "started a conversation" -- you know, the kind of conversation leftwingers are always claiming they want to start -- and it's having a snowball effect of people saying "Enough is enough."

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:47 PM




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1 Oneth?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 03:47 PM (HaL55)

2 first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:47 PM (iikV8)

3 damn

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:48 PM (iikV8)

4 *buffs nails on shirt*

Yeah, I still got it. Don't exactly know what "it" is, tho'. It's sure not money...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 03:48 PM (HaL55)

5 Walter Moseley was hired to help write the very, very bad Star Trek: Discovery in season 3. From almost all accounts, it's a terrible show heavy on #Woke politics and light on actual Star Trek. They desperately need real writers.

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I've seen 1.2 seasons of this show. I gave up because they honestly don't know how to tell stories at all.

Like, characters, plot progression, tone, theme. It's all jumbled at it's absolute best and pretty much non-existent the rest of the time.

It's the worst Star Trek has ever been. Ever.

And I remember most of Seasons 1-3 of Voyager.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:49 PM (iikV8)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 09, 2019 03:49 PM (arJlL)

7 Top guy.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 03:50 PM (4i8PS)

8 Walter Mosely is a fine writer.

His Easy Rawlins books are excellent.

Posted by: JT at September 09, 2019 03:50 PM (arJlL)

9 Trump tweeted that Mark Sanford went missing and was found in Argentina with his Flaming Dancer Friend.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 03:50 PM (xfb67)

10 Everybody wants to be the commissar.

But eventually they all get purged.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 03:51 PM (RD7QR)

11 Willowed


371 Based on the early voting #'s which were just released by the NC SOS, the DEMs returned appx 5000 more early ballots than the GOP.
....


There are a lot of legacy Dems in NC that vote Gop.

The Gop almost always loses the EV turnout.

5k vote gap cannot be comforting to Dems.

Posted by: Ha at September 09, 2019 03:51 PM (MAstk)

12 I think I read, or started to read, one of Moseley's novels about black private eye Easy Rawlings. Easy is no Shaft; he has more in common with Philip Marlowe than he does Richard Roundtree's character. I can't recall if I finished the novel, though. It seemed well-written enough.

On the one hand, it's nice to see even the latest Trek series using print authors. On the other hand, well, SJWs.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2019 03:51 PM (ClOmq)

13 Probably a blessing in disguise. Moseley surely doesn't want his reputation sullied by being associated with this dreck.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 09, 2019 03:51 PM (vg8iE)

14 The Sheriff is near?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 03:51 PM (0fbbp)

15 The answer offered was: Because Dave Chappelle had "started a conversation" -- you know, the kind of conversation leftwingers are always claiming they want to start -- and it's having a snowball effect of people saying "Enough is enough."

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Good. I keep hearing that preference cascades are a thing, but it never seems to materialize in culture.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:52 PM (iikV8)

16 >>>His Easy Rawlins books are excellent.


is there one people agree is the best?

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 03:52 PM (PbpT7)

17 Star Trek: Discovery is the one where the Federation is all about fighting wars all the time, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 03:52 PM (TyJCH)

18 boobs.

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

19 5
And I remember most of Seasons 1-3 of Voyager.

not enough val-u-rite?

Posted by: Anachronda at September 09, 2019 03:52 PM (sGtp+)

20 Or was it Easy Rawlins? Not sure. There was a film made of one of Moseley's books with Denzel Washington in the lead. Good choice, I'd think.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (ClOmq)

21 Are all these guys named Moseley?

Posted by: ... at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (5wAVp)

22 Good for him.

The fact that he was simply telling a story, using the "n word" colloquially (i.e. not directing it at anyone in the room, etc.) makes it even worse.

Like the black musician who has a track record of deprogramming KKK members being called a "white supremist" by Pantifa idiots at the MINDS summit, this silliness has got to be taking its toll.

How many normies, of all colors, have had enough of this craziness and will say, "Buh-bye" to the Democrat party, I wonder. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (bDqIh)

23 >>>21 Are all these guys named Moseley?


haha

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (PbpT7)

24 Wait, there's a Star Trek show on TV?

I thought we were done with all that terrible stuff.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (xfb67)

25 It's going to be sad when Dave Chappelle dies young, as so many comedians do . . .

Posted by: Hillary=>! at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (HkQpu)

26 If this "conversation" ever happens out on the open, the Left is fucked until they can brainwash another generation.

Posted by: ... at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (5wAVp)

27 Based on the early voting #'s which were just released by the NC SOS, the DEMs returned appx 5000 more early ballots than the GOP.

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The election involves Mecklenburg (Charlotte), right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (TyJCH)

28 Wait, there's a Star Trek show on TV?

Yeah, and it's called 'The Orville.'

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (O7MnT)

29 "Mr. Mosley, it has been reported that you used the n-word in the writers' room," Mosley wrote in the Times. "I replied, 'I am the N-word in the writers' room."

That line right there is, I think, the best line in the entire story.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 03:54 PM (Kpl3J)

30 Ot, another court fucks with trump asylum rules. Might be straw that broke resist judges backs

Posted by: Mack the jack at September 09, 2019 03:54 PM (aLzLr)

31 17 Star Trek: Discovery is the one where the Federation is all about fighting wars all the time, right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 03:52 PM (TyJCH)

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Holy shit. My absolute favorite bit of garbage from the first season is how it ends. It's so awful.

They've spent the entire season intentionally shitting on Star Trek, it's ideals, it's story structures, it's history, and everything else about it. It's war, fighting, and punching. Into Darkness to 11.

And then the main character has an impassioned speech about the Federation being peaceful.

It's so hilariously bad.

Who made Star Trek about fighting Klingons and the like? This very show! And then this very show has the gall to speechify about how that's not real Star Trek, admonishing someone (I really don't know who) about the Federation (re: Star Trek) losing its way.

It's one of the most beautifully awful moments of cognitive dissonance I've ever seen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:54 PM (iikV8)

32 Enterprise > Discovery?

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 03:54 PM (TyJCH)

33 I've never read Moseley's stuff (not my usual genre). Good? He's certainly productive.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 03:55 PM (ppBhU)

34 The film with Denzel Washington as Easy Rawlins was Devil in a Blue Dress from 1995.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2019 03:55 PM (ClOmq)

35 28
Wait, there's a Star Trek show on TV?



Yeah, and it's called 'The Orville.'


hulu

Posted by: Anachronda at September 09, 2019 03:55 PM (sGtp+)

36 >>That line right there is, I think, the best line in the entire story.


Isn't that a Richard Pryor line?

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 03:55 PM (ViZFb)

37 I assume Ace is going to light a fire to the Plame commercial soon?

Posted by: Ted K. at September 09, 2019 03:55 PM (FJYfm)

38 ???34 The film with Denzel Washington as Easy Rawlins was Devil in a Blue Dress from 1995.

thanks but i added that to the post AGES ago!

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 03:55 PM (PbpT7)

39 Note that 'paddy' is not verboten.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (oVJmc)

40 > Star Trek: Discovery is the one where the Federation is all about fighting wars all the time, right?

No idea, but if true that's even more damning.

A communist would have to work REALLY HARD to make that Star Trek situation boring and sucky.



Posted by: 10 Million Penises in TV Land at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (cB5if)

41 32 Enterprise > Discovery?
Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 03:54 PM (TyJCH)

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Oh yeah.

Enterprise is generic Star Trek for most of the time. Not terribly engaging, but it has the trappings of storytelling. It's just kinda boring.

Discovery, honestly, it has no idea how to tell stories at all. It's such a complete shitshow.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (iikV8)

42 Mosley wrote in the Times. "I replied, 'I am the N-word in the writers' room.'"

He wanted to say "The HNIC" but he knew that HR wouldn't have a clue what he was talking about.

I don't know this guy and I don't like Star Drek (even the original series is a retarded piece of shit) but this crap with the word "n**ger", which happens to be one of the most frequently used words in the popular vernacular is so far out of hand and insane that it really boggles the mind (any mind with even a smidgeon of rationality in it).

Our society is composed, mostly. of 3 year olds. ANd dumb ones, at that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (RyY7c)

43 Sock off.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (cB5if)

44 And it seems no one said boo about him using the term Paddy for the Irish.

Don't worry if you don't like their standards, they have others.

Posted by: Don Q at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (NgKpN)

45 Holy shit. My absolute favorite bit of garbage from the first season is how it ends. It's so awful.

They've spent the entire season intentionally shitting on Star Trek, it's ideals, it's story structures, it's history, and everything else about it. It's war, fighting, and punching. Into Darkness to 11.

And then the main character has an impassioned speech about the Federation being peaceful.

It's so hilariously bad.

Who made Star Trek about fighting Klingons and the like? This very show! And then this very show has the gall to speechify about how that's not real Star Trek, admonishing someone (I really don't know who) about the Federation (re: Star Trek) losing its way.

It's one of the most beautifully awful moments of cognitive dissonance I've ever seen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:54 PM (iikV

That kinda sounds like liberal agitprop aimed at the USA.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (4i8PS)

46 24
Wait, there's a Star Trek show on TV?



I thought we were done with all that terrible tribble stuff.


fixt

Posted by: Anachronda at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (sGtp+)

47 Holy shit. My absolute favorite bit of garbage from the first season is how it ends. It's so awful.

The RLM guys riffed on this brilliantly.

https://youtu.be/cn4fW0EInqw

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (O7MnT)

48 30 Ot, another court fucks with trump asylum rules. Might be straw that broke resist judges backs
Posted by: Mack the jack at September 09, 2019 03:54 PM (aLzLr)

If I understand correctly, it's the same court that the 9th Circuit slapped down. Which can't be making the 9th Circuit happy.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 03:57 PM (RD7QR)

49 45
It's one of the most beautifully awful moments of cognitive dissonance I've ever seen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:54 PM (iikV

That kinda sounds like liberal agitprop aimed at the USA.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 03:56 PM (4i8PS)

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I'm sure it is intended as so, but the writers are so inept that it comes across as an indictment of the very season they just wrapped up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:57 PM (iikV8)

50 is there one people agree is the best?

I liked all of them.

Posted by: JT at September 09, 2019 03:57 PM (arJlL)

51 Moseley? The Brit "Blackshirt" guy?


Oh.


There's still Star Trek stuff? Yep, missed it.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2019 03:57 PM (QDnY+)

52 You know, one of these days one of those sniveling little SJW brat snowflakes is going to tell Big Sis on the exact wrong person and get the living shit beat out of them.

I mean, the snitchee is already out the door, what's one more thing, right?

Oh, an when did the utterance of a word become grounds for losing one's livelihood? When did that become illegal and a firing offense? Still haven't found that clause in the Constitution that says, "All of these rights are inalienable and cannot be taken away from you, except when you're at work."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 03:57 PM (HaL55)

53 There is no Star Trek but TOS.
Discuss.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 03:57 PM (i5RAz)

54 38 ???34 The film with Denzel Washington as Easy Rawlins was Devil in a Blue Dress from 1995.

thanks but i added that to the post AGES ago!
Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019


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I keep getting distracted from important posts and content by this nasty little thing called work.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2019 03:57 PM (ClOmq)

55 His Easy Rawlins books are excellent.

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I like his cousin better, Peaceful Easy Feelin.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (+y/Ru)

56
The election involves Mecklenburg (Charlotte), right?

..


Yes one of eight counties.

Posted by: Ha at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (MAstk)

57 I've always wanted to check out a Star Treek Next Generation Pinball but I have never seen one out there.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (ViZFb)

58 Isn't "paddy" an ethnic slur? Why wasn't that censored?

(I blame the wops.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (4Pl2n)

59 And actually, Racism was very well covered in the Original series.

The episode with the guys who were Half Black half White, but hated each other because of which side was Black.

Posted by: Don Q at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (NgKpN)

60 Oh yeah.

Enterprise is generic Star Trek for most of the time. Not terribly engaging, but it has the trappings of storytelling. It's just kinda boring.

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Thanks. I'm not a trekkie, but I enjoy the old Star Treks and, back when I was single and had time to kill, I would watch a Next Generation if it was on.

I bought the box set of Enterprise for something like $5 from Amazon because hey, I kind of like Star Trek, and I enjoyed Quantum Leap, so why not? But I've been putting off watching it because I kept hearing how lousy it was.

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (TyJCH)

61 >> is there one people agree is the best?


Yes.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (ViZFb)

62 59 And actually, Racism was very well covered in the Original series.

The episode with the guys who were Half Black half White, but hated each other because of which side was Black.
Posted by: Don Q at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (NgKpN)

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To be fair, that episode was kinda dumb.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (iikV8)

63 exulstent-ubdb

Posted by: the steel plate in Joe's head at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (v0R5T)

64 Ah yes, our old friend Human Resources. The stassi of the left. A profession filled with those who used to rat on John for talking during a fire drill. Filled by employees too dumb to be hired by the commerce department.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019 03:59 PM (SEnIW)

65 > The episode with the guys who were Half Black half White, but hated each other because of which side was Black.

A lot of people worship the original series, but it certainly had its share of shite episodes, and that was one of them. Another one: "Spock's Brain".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 03:59 PM (cB5if)

66 Isn't that a Richard Pryor line?
Posted by: garrett

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Maybe but "DEAAAAD HONKY!!" certainly was.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 09, 2019 03:59 PM (Y4EXg)

67 thank G-d nobody used the slur 'Fredo'.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 03:59 PM (wEo+T)

68 Years ago, I would have been excited to hear that a new Star Trek show was on the way.

They've since made it clear I am not the audience they want.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 09, 2019 04:00 PM (19g6/)

69 Paddys is a privileged slur .

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 04:00 PM (YB89a)

70 I watched the first episode of 'Discovery.'
Man, that stunk on ice.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:00 PM (oVJmc)

71 The answer offered was: Because Dave Chappelle had "started a conversation" -- you know, the kind of conversation leftwingers are always claiming they want to start -- and it's having a snowball effect of people saying "Enough is enough."

I like Dave Chappelle's humor. He's generally pretty funny. But he didn't start a conversation about shit. His use of "n**ger" in his Sticks and Stones routine is silly and he contradicts himself on it during the routine.

The fact is, "n**ger" means "black". Period. Nothing more. Whatever feelings one has when saying one word is the same when saying the other. But white guilt is running at a fever pitch with the super-retarded, ultra-self-hating neo-hippy scum we are burdened with. This current society is going to be laughed at and made fun of for thousands of years into the future.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 09, 2019 04:00 PM (RyY7c)

72 60 Thanks. I'm not a trekkie, but I enjoy the old Star Treks and, back when I was single and had time to kill, I would watch a Next Generation if it was on.

I bought the box set of Enterprise for something like $5 from Amazon because hey, I kind of like Star Trek, and I enjoyed Quantum Leap, so why not? But I've been putting off watching it because I kept hearing how lousy it was.
Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (TyJCH)

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It gets better in the later seasons. I think it's 3 where that starts. The Xindi were actually a pretty good overall antagonist.

My big problem with the show is that they went time travel in the very first episode of the whole series. Instead of letting the show just be an early era Star Trek show, they included time travel to make it something else. They hadn't even finished the first episode of the first season before they decided that they couldn't make the concept strong enough on its own.

That's sad. It ends up generically fine, but it could have been really interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:00 PM (iikV8)

73 A lot of people worship the original series, but it certainly had its share of shite episodes, and that was one of them. Another one: "Spock's Brain".



"The Cloud Minders" cuts pretty close to the bone for today's world's elite.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:00 PM (0fbbp)

74 62 59 And actually, Racism was very well covered in the Original series.

The episode with the guys who were Half Black half White, but hated each other because of which side was Black.
Posted by: Don Q at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (NgKpN)

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To be fair, that episode was kinda dumb.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (iikV



Nothing with Frank Gorshin in it can be all bad.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:00 PM (ujg0T)

75 There is no Star Trek but TOS.
Discuss.


Nothing to discuss. Simple fact.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:01 PM (oVJmc)

76 Even if 9th re-slaps this particular judge, bigger issues remain and nobody's done anything to fix, including "standing" for anyone opposed to a lawful policy, and other things. And more idiocy afoot on expedited removal, from the "court". Even though policy has still not been implemented, for reasons not entirely known but likely identical to other non- or lax enforcement performance.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2019 04:01 PM (QDnY+)

77 I don't get it. Why is this a big deal? What am I missing?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 09, 2019 04:01 PM (JUOKG)

78 I don't think you can slur the Irish.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 04:01 PM (ViZFb)

79 Are all these guys named Moseley?


haha
Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 03:53 PM (PbpT7)

Just spitballin' here, but probably not a relative of Oswald Mosely.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 04:01 PM (jEgzt)

80 65 > The episode with the guys who were Half Black half White, but hated each other because of which side was Black.

A lot of people worship the original series, but it certainly had its share of shite episodes, and that was one of them. Another one: "Spock's Brain".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 03:59 PM (cB5if)

AKA, Planet of the Ditzy Blondes.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 04:01 PM (RD7QR)

81 68 Years ago, I would have been excited to hear that a new Star Trek show was on the way.

They've since made it clear I am not the audience they want.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 09, 2019 04:00 PM (19g6/)

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I have some low level optimism about Picard.

It's probably gonna be stupid and bad, but maybe not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:01 PM (iikV8)

82 >>>The fact is, "n**ger" means "black". Period. Nothing more. Whatever feelings one has when saying one word is the same when saying the other.


just shut the fuck up

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:01 PM (PbpT7)

83 It gets better in the later seasons.

If Season 4 had been Season 1, it would have worked.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 09, 2019 04:01 PM (O7MnT)

84 I liked Enterprise, but Animated Trek is the best Trek.

It's truly sublime.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 09, 2019 04:02 PM (4Pl2n)

85 I'd say the 99% audience Rotten Tomato upvotes on Chappelle's Netflix show sez a whole helluva lot.

I watched it on the second day it was available, and got on AoS to say that everyone should watch it.

It's not that I agree with everything he says, it's that he is standing up to the SJW mob.

I think he will turn out to be the Chik-Fil-A of comedy; hugely popular in spite of his unPC 'reputation'. He should go on tour.

With extra bodyguards though.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 09, 2019 04:02 PM (Z4rgH)

86 62 59 And actually, Racism was very well covered in the Original series.

The episode with the guys who were Half Black half White, but hated each other because of which side was Black.
Posted by: Don Q at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (NgKpN)

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To be fair, that episode was kinda dumb.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019


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Heavy-handed, I'd say. The best thing from it was the "self-destruct" sequence, which was used again, almost word for word, in Trek III.

There's a touch about racism/bigotry in the early episode "Balance of Terror," when they see for the first time that Romulans look like Spock, and the navigator Stiles assumes Spock will side with the Romulans and (it's implied) might even be a spy for them.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2019 04:02 PM (ClOmq)

87 To be fair, that episode was kinda dumb.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (iikV


They were all kinda dumb, at the least.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 09, 2019 04:02 PM (RyY7c)

88 Enterprise is generic Star Trek for most of the time. Not terribly
engaging, but it has the trappings of storytelling. It's just kinda
boring.
>>
Also had wet t-shirt Vulcan boobs early on.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:02 PM (i5RAz)

89 Most writers would have to bend over and take it for the paycheck. Moseley's successful enough to tell them to EABOD.

Posted by: spongeworthy at September 09, 2019 04:02 PM (35Slc)

90 He should rewrite this event as a spinoff of the Twilight Zones' 'To Serve Man'. Its pretty much where we are thanks to Obama. Cannibalism is a thing. The only antidote is either LOLGF or Kill Them and Wear Their Skin.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 09, 2019 04:02 PM (2LelM)

91 a week ago PrimordialPair was on this same jag, basically arguing that there was just no such thing as racism, which is generally the pose taken by those who are really racist but want to make it okay to be racist, or those who want to prove that what we call "racism" is merely "truth"

I'm so sick of it. I was going to ask him last week "Are you pushing for the ultimate goal of being able to say n***er" and here we are at that exact destination.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:03 PM (PbpT7)

92 Exhul-sensitive

Posted by: the steel plate in Joe's head at September 09, 2019 04:03 PM (v0R5T)

93 59 And actually, Racism was very well covered in the Original series.

The episode with the guys who were Half Black half White, but hated each other because of which side was Black.
Posted by: Don Q at September 09, 2019 03:58 PM (NgKpN)
%%%%%%%%%
One of those guys was Frank Gorshin who also played The Riddler in the original (incredibly lame) Batman series.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at September 09, 2019 04:03 PM (JNTt1)

94 The fact is, "n**ger" means "black". Period. Nothing more. Whatever feelings one has when saying one word is the same when saying the other. But white guilt is running at a fever pitch with the super-retarded, ultra-self-hating neo-hippy scum we are burdened with. This current society is going to be laughed at and made fun of for thousands of years into the future.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 09, 2019 04:00 PM (RyY7c)



I would NOT go that far, but we have gotten to the point of the stoning scene in "Life Of Brian", where an offhand mention of it out of context brings out the stones.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:03 PM (ujg0T)

95 It's probably gonna be stupid and bad, but maybe not.

The trailer makes it look stupid and bad.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 09, 2019 04:03 PM (O7MnT)

96 the show where Mudd takes over the Enterprise was good . that was one episode in all the STD episodes I suffered through, which was the whole first season and about four or five from the second.

STD is exactly what it looks like, a sore on Star Trek' s genitalia. get the antibiotics and kill it.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (wEo+T)

97 60
Oh yeah.



Enterprise is generic Star Trek for most of the time. Not terribly
engaging, but it has the trappings of storytelling. It's just kinda
boring.



--



Thanks. I'm not a trekkie, but I enjoy the old Star Treks and, back
when I was single and had time to kill, I would watch a Next Generation
if it was on.


i was doing ok with enterprise, right up until they mounted phasers on stukas.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (sGtp+)

98 (takes shrink wrap off of Star Trek: Enterprise)

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (TyJCH)

99 >>>
I would NOT go that far, but we have gotten to the point of the stoning scene in "Life Of Brian", where an offhand mention of it out of context brings out the stones.

he pushed this same line last week. See my post above.

I guessed from his more covert fulminations last week that this was the stop on the train he was interested in buying a ticket for.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (PbpT7)

100 I would NOT go that far, but we have gotten to the point of the stoning scene in "Life Of Brian", where an offhand mention of it out of context brings out the stones.


This comment is good enough for Jehovah.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (0fbbp)

101 95 It's probably gonna be stupid and bad, but maybe not.

The trailer makes it look stupid and bad.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 09, 2019 04:03 PM (O7MnT)

==========

It does, but that could just be marketing pushing it in a direction dictated.

Maybe the show is better.

Probably not, but maybe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (iikV8)

102 There is no Star Trek but TOS.
Discuss.
Posted by: FrodoB

Dammit Frodo I'm a moron not a film critic

Posted by: Sock Monkey ...just a peasant at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (GF84D)

103
His Easy Rawlins books are excellent.



-

I like his cousin better, Peaceful Easy Feelin.


His other cousin, Lou Rawlins, is a good singer.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (HaL55)

104 exulstet-ibidib
damn, that's one tough word.

Posted by: the steel plate in Joe's head at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (v0R5T)

105 > Also had wet t-shirt Vulcan boobs early on.

The high point of TNG was that episode where Troi turned into an evil slut and was prancing around in that sheer nightgown with no bra.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (cB5if)

106 88
Enterprise is generic Star Trek for most of the time. Not terribly

engaging, but it has the trappings of storytelling. It's just kinda

boring.
>>
Also had wet t-shirt Vulcan boobs early on.


and decontaminant gel. don't forget the decontaminant gel.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (sGtp+)

107 One of those guys was Frank Gorshin who also played The Riddler in the original (incredibly lame) Batman series.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at September 09, 2019 04:03 PM (JNTt1)



Of course it was lame---it was Camp. Intentionally so. On that level it was great.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_(style)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (ujg0T)

108 TO me, this is the intersection of the lawfare and SJW.

HR appears to have been trying to cover their ass. Understandable, but this is where that leads. Both the lawfare, and the SJW attacks on our society are a problem, but combined they multiply.

The article linked at CRB over the weekend about brexit brought up how the EU brought courts into the mix in UK as a way to advance leftist goals. This has been going on in US forever, with civil rights act, ADA, etc. but has accelerated under obama, under his guidance, and now under Trump as a way to attack and hobble him.

But in corporate HR it has been a real problem and I think explains a lot of the lefty bias in many companies. You have to abide by the SJW rules, or they will sue your ass.

[I worked at a company in San Jose in the 90s where they were confounded by an engineer who wore homemade mini skirts to work each day with no underwear. It was as sick as it sounds, but the company was terrified of firing him.]

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (LWu6U)

109 96 the show where Mudd takes over the Enterprise was good . that was one episode in all the STD episodes I suffered through, which was the whole first season and about four or five from the second.

STD is exactly what it looks like, a sore on Star Trek' s genitalia. get the antibiotics and kill it.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (wEo+T)

==========

Yeah, I usually couch my criticism of the first season with that Mudd episode. I genuinely love that episode. It's fun and well told.

The rest of the season is awful and terrible and bad and everyone involved should feel bad for it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (iikV8)

110 >>>His other cousin, Lou Rawlins, is a good singer.


i liked his son, New Rawlins

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (PbpT7)

111 64 Ah yes, our old friend Human Resources. The stassi of the left. A profession filled with those who used to rat on John for talking during a fire drill. Filled by employees too dumb to be hired by the commerce department.
Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019


*
*

Kronos, the timekeeping/timeclock software people, have a series of radio spots now which includes a URL ending with ". . . kronos /HRswagger."

WTF? The LAST thing we need is for HR drones to have any more "swagger" than they already do!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (ClOmq)

112 > His other cousin, Lou Rawlins, is a good singer.

He also made a damned fine line of sporting gear.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (cB5if)

113 Trailers lie. When was the last time you saw a trailer that didn't over-promise or outright lie?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (4Pl2n)

114 It's probably gonna be stupid and bad, but maybe not.

--

This is going to be my epitaph.

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:06 PM (TyJCH)

115 If it really means the same thing as black, people would just say black. That's one less syllable.

I feel the same way about the r word, among other words. People use it strictly to demean. Regardless of the legal issues, just knock it off.

Posted by: Ted K. at September 09, 2019 04:06 PM (FJYfm)

116 >>>HR appears to have been trying to cover their ass

well I wouldn't say that. I get what you mean, but as Ya Boi Zack says, HR is the beachhead landing force of the SJWs. They aren't merely responding to the SJW pressure, they're stoking it and advancing it.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:06 PM (PbpT7)

117 Dammit Frodo I'm a moron not a film critic

Posted by: Sock Monkey
>>
Anybody can be a TV critic.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:06 PM (i5RAz)

118 [I worked at a company in San Jose in the 90s where they were confounded by an engineer who wore homemade mini skirts to work each day with no underwear. It was as sick as it sounds, but the company was terrified of firing him.]


Kilts?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:06 PM (0fbbp)

119 you know, the kind of conversation leftwingers are always claiming they want to start

As we're over 100-comments in I'm sure this has been said, but the SJW/Left has precisely zero interest in a "conversation" with us - we're un-persons. Lecture? Monologue? Absolutely.

But when you have to accept a ludicrous premise like "only Caucasians can be racist" you make "conversation" literally impossible.

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (77WPm)

120 Orville is fine. I hope it has another season.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (wEo+T)

121 I used to like Henry Rawlins until he decided he could sh*t gold.

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (TyJCH)

122 117 Dammit Frodo I'm a moron not a film critic

Posted by: Sock Monkey
>>
Anybody can be a TV critic.
Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:06 PM (i5RAz)

===========

I usually have some kind of general defense of film critics, but TV critics I find completely insufferable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (iikV8)

123 Trailers lie. When was the last time you saw a trailer that didn't over-promise or outright lie?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 09, 2019 04:05 PM (4Pl2n)

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Posted by: JoeF. at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (NFEMn)

124 82.

So much for that conversation.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (nWmg2)

125 >>>118 [I worked at a company in San Jose in the 90s where they were confounded by an engineer who wore homemade mini skirts to work each day with no underwear. It was as sick as it sounds, but the company was terrified of firing him.

this story took an unpleasant turn with that last word.

up 'till then I was Interested.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (PbpT7)

126 His other cousin, Lou Rawlins, is a good singer.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (HaL55)



Was, alas. RIP.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (ujg0T)

127 120
Orville is fine. I hope it has another season.

it will, but on hulu; not on tv

Posted by: Anachronda at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (sGtp+)

128 The high point of TNG was that episode where Troi
turned into an evil slut and was prancing around in that sheer nightgown
with no bra.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
>>
Hmm. May have to revisit TNG

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (i5RAz)

129 As we're over 100-comments in I'm sure this has been said, but the SJW/Left has precisely zero interest in a "conversation" with us - we're un-persons. Lecture? Monologue? Absolutely.

--

Yeah, "conversation" = "common sense gun control"

They have the solution already. They just need you to shut up and agree with them

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (TyJCH)

130 a week ago PrimordialPair was on this same jag, basically arguing that there was just no such thing as racism,

Oh please. I never said anything of the sort. I was talking abotu a friggin word. Sheesh.

which is generally the pose taken by those who are really racist but want to make it okay to be racist, or those who want to prove that what we call "racism" is merely "truth"

Yeah. You figured me out.

I'm so sick of it. I was going to ask him last week "Are you pushing for the ultimate goal of being able to say n***er" and here we are at that exact destination.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:03 PM (PbpT7)


I don't care. But forcing people to say "the n-word" is pretty funny and juvenile. No one would have even thought to speak like that (no one who was over the age of 10) not that many years ago. But ... whatever. Blame me because one of the most frequently used words in the popular culture is totally off-bounds to certain of us. Yeah ... that's my fault.

ANyway, I'm done. Have fun with this. You are addressing an issue and then dancing around the issue, itself. Okey doke. Why bother even trying to talk about it?

Later.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (RyY7c)

131 I love how he just, apparently, ghosted those Star Trek jerks.

Posted by: sinalco at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (yODqO)

132 Is Star Terk the one with Shatner or the one with glowing swords?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (FiUMj)

133 128 The high point of TNG was that episode where Troi
turned into an evil slut and was prancing around in that sheer nightgown
with no bra.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
>>
Hmm. May have to revisit TNG
Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (i5RAz)

=========

*watches over 150 hours of television for one shot of hidden nipple*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (iikV8)

134 My big problem with the show is that they went time travel in the very first episode of the whole series. Instead of letting the show just be an early era Star Trek show, they included time travel to make it something else. They hadn't even finished the first episode of the first season before they decided that they couldn't make the concept strong enough on its own.

That's sad. It ends up generically fine, but it could have been really interesting.

I agree with that, the guy from the 26th century was just a stupid distraction, the plot would have worked better without him.

That series had it's moments - one of my favorite episodes was when they did a remake of the "Tholian Web" episode from TOS, set in the Mirror Universe - i thought that was quite clever.

The Next Generation had some very good episodes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (Kpl3J)

135 >>>124 82.

So much for that conversation.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie

We've had it, we get it. A lot of you guys really want to say N***er and tell your hilarious watermelon jokes all day, and you're sick of The Man telling you that obvious overt racial disparagements are racial disparagements.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (PbpT7)

136 76 Even if 9th re-slaps this particular judge, bigger issues remain and nobody's done anything to fix, including "standing" for anyone opposed to a lawful policy,



I first read that as "lawful piracy", and upon thinking about the continued actions of some of these pathetic judges, am going to stay with my reading of your comment, for accuracy's sake.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (sy5kK)

137 > Ah yes, our old friend Human Resources.

The story goes that when Apple first got large enough to need an HR department to deal with gubmint paperwork and so on, Jobs called in for an interview a woman who was supposed to be the Nicola Tesla, the Isaac Newton, the Andrew Carnegie of HR people. His first words to her?

"I've never met one of you people who didn't suck."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:09 PM (cB5if)

138 I agree there's a huge difference between saying a word and calling someone that word. But it's still vulgar as Hell, right up there with the C-word. Don't do it.

Posted by: spongeworthy at September 09, 2019 04:09 PM (35Slc)

139
When I become Emperor, all HR bints will be sent on canal duty.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2019 04:09 PM (7rVsF)

140 >>>ANyway, I'm done. Have fun with this. You are addressing an issue and then dancing around the issue, itself. Okey doke. Why bother even trying to talk about it?

Later.

...

I really wish you would be "done" permanently, on all subjects.

I am so fucking tired of you.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:09 PM (PbpT7)

141 The high point of TNG was that episode where Troi

Voyager only became watchable because of Jeri Ryan's "Borg implants."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (O7MnT)

142 Royal Rawlins was the best tune on Led Zeppelin's Presence.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (ViZFb)

143 -
--
Orville is fine. I hope it has another season.


Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM

--------------------------

Chico has better bars.

Posted by: irright at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (pMGkg)

144 Hey, if it's a forbidden word....it's a forbidden word for everyone.

No special racial exemptions. Or rapper exemptions.

OR...it's not a forbidden word, just a rude one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (bcbK8)

145 REgarding the Adam West Batman series: I know it's camp, and have always disliked it. Even at age 12, when it was new, I had no idea what "camp" was; I just knew that was the wrong way to tell Batman stories.

(Not that the Obsessed Avenger route is much better.)

What the '60s series did have, though, was great guest actors as the villains. Gorshin as the Riddler, Burgess Meredith as the Penguin, and Julie Newmar as Catwoman were living embodiments of the comic characters. Cesar Romero was not a bad Joker, but not great.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (ClOmq)

146 i liked his son, New Rawlins

He's a good cook from what I hear.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (HaL55)

147 121 I used to like Henry Rawlins until he decided he could sh*t gold.
Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (TyJCH)



Somewhere along the line, that guy took a page out of the How To Be A Leftist Asshole Book, by Jello "Eric Boucher" Biafra.

Rollins' original monologues from the 1980's were much better.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (ujg0T)

148 *watches over 150 hours of television for one shot of hidden nipple*

--

"Hold our juice boxes."

- 14 year old Moron Robbie and friends at a house where Cinemax was an option but the parents were not subscribers

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (TyJCH)

149 134 I agree with that, the guy from the 26th century was just a stupid distraction, the plot would have worked better without him.

That series had it's moments - one of my favorite episodes was when they did a remake of the "Tholian Web" episode from TOS, set in the Mirror Universe - i thought that was quite clever.

The Next Generation had some very good episodes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (Kpl3J)

==========

Their Mirror Universe stuff was great.

While watching Enterprise, I came up with one of my concepts for a Star Trek series.

In the final days of the Romulan War, a crippled captain is given an older ship to reclaim the Federation's original mission of exploration. So, he takes this older ship in a new direction and they explore the cosmos. They don't encounter a single sentient alien life through the entire first season. It's all about survival in an old ship in deep space. Things break. Nerves fray. They get lost. The final episode of the season would be against some sort of cosmically large force that they couldn't actually engage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:11 PM (iikV8)

150 120 Orville is fine. I hope it has another season.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (wEo+T)

I watched one episode and thought it was a horrible piece of soap opera millenial trash. Maybe I just got a bad episode. never watched any more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:11 PM (Kpl3J)

151 The argument is "well blacks call each other **** so what's the big deal if I do it". And in a perfect world that would be a valid, logical argument. But in the world we live in, it's just the way it is. And if you really don't get WHY it is the way it is, then there's no point in talking about it.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:11 PM (FiUMj)

152 >> His other cousin, Lou Rawlins, is a good singer.

You'll never find
A better catcher's mitt than this

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 04:11 PM (ZLI7S)

153 I see great things in this Thread's Future.


Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 04:12 PM (ViZFb)

154 Is Star Terk the one with Shatner or the one with glowing swords?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:08 PM (FiUMj)
.......

I'm pretty sure it's the one with Uhura's lucky chair.

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:12 PM (v0R5T)

155 One of those guys was Frank Gorshin who also played The Riddler in the original (incredibly lame) Batman series.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at September 09, 2019 04:03 PM (JNTt1)


the HELL you say!

*BOFF*

*WHAM*

*BAM*

*POW*

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 04:12 PM (sy5kK)

156 The high point of TNG was that episode where Troi
turned into an evil slut and was prancing around in that sheer nightgown
with no bra.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
>>
tell me you didn't watch 'Avatar' and wait for the blue chicks necklace to flip a side

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:12 PM (i5RAz)

157 144 Hey, if it's a forbidden word....it's a forbidden word for everyone.

No special racial exemptions. Or rapper exemptions.

OR...it's not a forbidden word, just a rude one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (bcbK

I thought there was general agreement the word is rude. Like bitches and hoes, also rude.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:12 PM (4i8PS)

158 >>well I wouldn't say that. I get what you mean, but as Ya Boi Zack says, HR is the beachhead landing force of the SJWs. They aren't merely responding to the SJW pressure, they're stoking it and advancing it.

Apparently they agree with Snitchy McSnowflake that the writers room should be a safe space.

It's just ridiculous that some employee couldn't just remark to Mosley that they were uncomfortable with his word choice. Instead, they behaved like a whiny college student and ran to HR (not even their boss, but HR). It's just all so passive-aggressive, stabbing the seasoned, successful writer in the back with some BS complaint about an offensive word. Shame HR could just refer them back to Mosely or their boss to deal with Mosley Rawlins. Mosley was right to determine this was not a healthy work environment.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 04:12 PM (bDqIh)

159 141 The high point of TNG was that episode where Troi

Voyager only became watchable because of Jeri Ryan's "Borg implants."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (O7MnT)

==========

Coincidentally, that's when the original showrunner, Jeri Taylor, left the show.

She kept Voyager fan fiction where she was Janeway and Janeway was the most insufferable Mary Sue in existence. Seriously, she the best scientist, pilot, tactician out of everyone. She's never wrong. Ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:12 PM (iikV8)

160 I never read comics books. So when I watched the Batman show in syndication, growing up, I thought that was "normal" Batman. Same thing with the Superman movie.

Then I hit puberty and stopped giving a shit altogether about it.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:13 PM (FiUMj)

161 128 The high point of TNG was that episode where Troi
turned into an evil slut and was prancing around in that sheer nightgown
with no bra.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
>>
Hmm. May have to revisit TNG
Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019


*
*

TNG told some top-notch stories. And then you had Beverly Crusher as icing on the cake.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2019 04:13 PM (ClOmq)

162 99 >>>
I would NOT go that far, but we have gotten to the point of the stoning scene in "Life Of Brian", where an offhand mention of it out of context brings out the stones.

he pushed this same line last week. See my post above.

I guessed from his more covert fulminations last week that this was the stop on the train he was interested in buying a ticket for.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:04 PM (PbpT7)



You are correct, it is NOT "just a word".

But I stand by what has happened to it. Context matters, even with that word.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:13 PM (ujg0T)

163 Orville got better to the point I didn't mind the soap opera bits as much. it still isnt the Galaxy Quest it wants to be but it is fine for what it is

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 04:13 PM (wEo+T)

164 I see great things in this Thread's Future.

yeah at this point Garrett I've got my hands over my eyes

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 09, 2019 04:13 PM (Rarvo)

165
> *watches over 150 hours of television for one shot of hidden nipple*

Let me save you guys the trouble:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og0Or1i9riY

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:13 PM (cB5if)

166 You know where I heard n***er the most growing up? Rap. By black rappers. Every f*cking song, every other word. And they made a fortune on it. But suddenly the word is spoken by some not black, and whatever the context, bowels are evacuated.

Reminds me of when the NFL passed a rule fining players who said n***er on the field. And who bitched about the rule? The black players. Because they were the ones who used it. If the word is forbidden, its forbidden for all, not for some.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 09, 2019 04:13 PM (nWmg2)

167 One more example.

At another company I got chewed out by the CFO for transporting 1L of ethanol in my car. I was Director of Engineering. Some weenie tech ratted me out, and I had to explain to the CTO that ethanol was just, you know, alcohol. Same tech flipped out because I speced Isopropyl in a cleaning process - he claimed it was a carcinogen that would migrate through the gloves and that it was unsafe for contact with skin. Isopropyl,... you know rubbing alcohol. Guy was an idiot but he used his "safety" training and whatever rules or regulations he could imagine to try to control things. ...

this is where the lawfare/SJW combination creates 4x the trouble.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 09, 2019 04:13 PM (LWu6U)

168 >>>
But I stand by what has happened to it. Context matters, even with that word.

no i get that, i'm arguing that too

but I don't buy "hey, we're oppressed because we can't call the darkies sambos" thing

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:14 PM (PbpT7)

169 Oh and I hate Star Trek.

I hate the universe it posits, I hate the socialism, I hate that they want to have their military org cake and eat it, non militarily.

The Ferengi amuse me. So do sexy outfits on hotties. But they simply can't execute on their ideas and their 'science' is wincingly bad.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:14 PM (bcbK8)

170
Enterprise > Discovery?

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 03:54 PM (TyJCH)
Seasons 3 and 4 yes. The first two seasons of Enterprise aren't very good.

Posted by: WOPR at September 09, 2019 04:14 PM (J70i0)

171 but I don't buy "hey, we're oppressed because we can't call the darkies sambos" thing



*gathers stones*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:15 PM (0fbbp)

172 http://bit.ly/2QgQn3B
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No bomb found in van with 1,000 gallons of gas in downtown Baltimore parking garage precautionary sweeps continue - Baltimore Sun

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 04:15 PM (BqBId)

173 64 Ah yes, our old friend Human Resources. The stassi of the left. A profession filled with those who used to rat on John for talking during a fire drill. Filled by employees too dumb to be hired by the commerce department.

Posted by: SH at September 09, 2019


Been working in businesses large and small for 30+ years. I have yet to find a dimmer group of people than those working in a corporate HR department.

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 04:15 PM (77WPm)

174 The 1st amendment says government shall not interfere with free speech. Not businesses. If you don't like businesses making decisions on what they are paying for move to cuba or north korea.

Posted by: raimondo at September 09, 2019 04:15 PM (9xP80)

175 Moseley relayed the story using the old-timey cop's casually racial language -- which I would insist is a valid choice, because that language is suggestive of a time and place and prevailing attitude that "African-American" would not be.

Condemning people for the usage/ opinions of a past time is reprehensible. Those doing it fail to grasp that whatever they say, think, or do now may well be - make that, is almost certain to be - streng verboten in time.

This is apparent in Conquest's "The Great Terror" which details how people were condemned for views and statements made many years before (e.g., supporting Trotsky) at a time when doing so was perfectly OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 09, 2019 04:15 PM (YqDXo)

176 >>I see great things in this Thread's Future.

Don't touch that stove, it's hot and will burn you.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 04:15 PM (ZLI7S)

177 Piss off, racist foreign retard.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (0fbbp)

178 174 The 1st amendment says government shall not interfere with free speech. Not businesses. If you don't like businesses making decisions on what they are paying for move to cuba or north korea.
Posted by: raimondo at September 09, 2019 04:15 PM (9xP80)

==========

I want NFL teams to fire players for kneeling.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (iikV8)

179 >>>You know where I heard n***er the most growing up? Rap. By black rappers. E

yeah we all know that. Prepare to be shocked: The people who tell the most Jewish jokes (at least in mixed company) are Jews.

and if I called my friend a whitebreak cracker ass cracker, it would not be offensive at all, but if a black guy said it as an insult, it would be.

just admit you want to say the word because you have a lot of people around you who need to know they're n****ers

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (PbpT7)

180 BAKE MY CAKE, B*TCHES!

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (TyJCH)

181 Voyager only became watchable because of Jeri Ryan's "Borg implants."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (O7MnT)



Speaking of her, if her foolish ex-husband had never felt the urge to show her off in "adult" venues, we would never have been cursed with the Obamunist.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (ujg0T)

182
Oh and I hate Star Trek.



I hate the universe it posits, I hate the socialism, I hate that
they want to have their military org cake and eat it, non militarily.


That's why you stick with TOS.
It's male fantasy. Even the bridge-- Kirk's chair is a La-Z-Boy right in front of a big screen TV.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (oVJmc)

183 Note the derogatory term, "paddies" is totes okay but the "n" word is right out.

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (qC1Sy)

184 I basically agree with PrimordialPair. By endowing this word with the magical power to destroy careers and lives we give it far more power than it deserves. I'm not a big Harry Potter so excuse we if I mangle this analogy but my understanding is that the word Voldemort was so evil it could not be spoken but Harry spoke it and defeated Voldemort.

The only magical words I need are abracadabra and please.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (+y/Ru)

185 No bomb found in van with 1,000 gallons of gas in downtown Baltimore parking garage precautionary sweeps continue - Baltimore Sun
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 04:15 PM (BqBId)

1,000 gallons of gas - my guess is that someone had a bootleg business going with an east coast refinery and sold it at cut rate prices to local connections.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (Kpl3J)

186 Here's my problem with it all. If a white guy had used that word in the same situation would there be the same level of defending the guy. Or is it simply that because Mosely and Chapelle are black, they extra POC-emon points that allow them to do it. They weren't going to fire Mosely. You can be guaranteed they would have fired a white guy.

It's all great except it isn't. Tired of looked for the great black hope to save us white people from the Left.

Posted by: WOPR at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (J70i0)

187 Obviously context matters. That's what makes the Mosley story so ridiculous.

But there's never a good reason for a white person to be saying that, unless they're testifying in court to what someone else said.

Posted by: Ted K. at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (FJYfm)

188 >>>Been working in businesses large and small for 30+ years. I have yet to find a dimmer group of people than those working in a corporate HR department.


I don't know this for a fact, but I would imagine that almost everyone in HR has an "education" in Gender and Racial Studies.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (PbpT7)

189 "No bomb found in van with 1,000 gallons of gas in downtown Baltimore"

was the gas in open pails, and did the van have Florida plates?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (wEo+T)

190 just admit you want to say the word because you have a lot of people around you who need to know they're n****ers


In fairness, I'm surrounded by naggers.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (0fbbp)

191 181 Voyager only became watchable because of Jeri Ryan's "Borg implants."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (O7MnT)


Speaking of her, if her foolish ex-husband had never felt the urge to show her off in "adult" venues, we would never have been cursed with the Obamunist.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (ujg0T)

==========

From what I understand, their marriage in general was junk and the sex club stuff might not have happened at all. It was just in a list of a complaint.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (iikV8)

192 166 You know where I heard n***er the most growing up? Rap. By black rappers. Every f*cking song, every other word. And they made a fortune on it. But suddenly the word is spoken by some not black, and whatever the context, bowels are evacuated.

Reminds me of when the NFL passed a rule fining players who said n***er on the field. And who bitched about the rule? The black players. Because they were the ones who used it. If the word is forbidden, its forbidden for all, not for some.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 09, 2019 04:13 PM (nWmg2)

Well they don't understand how racial slurs work. It's mostly tonal and relationship based. Similar to most other slurs really.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (4i8PS)

193 135.

You don't know me and you don't know my mind. So watch your own mouth.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (nWmg2)

194 Well, this got uncomfortable in a hurry.

Anyway, it's not a surprise this happened. Everyone everywhere is eventually going to be required to refrain from BadThink and BadSpeak upon pain of unemployment and blacklisting (no pun intended).

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (NWiLs)

195 I noticed the thing that every major D candidate has in common is their hectoring tone. Is there a single one of them that doesn't nag, lecture and hector?

Posted by: ... at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (5wAVp)

196 Anybody can be a TV critic.
Posted by: FrodoB

TV is merely entertainment in the moment. Whether or not it entertains me depends upon that moment. If I want something compelling and thought provoking I read a book

Posted by: Sock Monkey ...just a peasant at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (GF84D)

197 >>But there's never a good reason for a white person to be saying that, unless they're testifying in court to what someone else said.


I think a white person telling the same story would be justified for the same reasons. Though of course they'd probably be fired.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (PbpT7)

198 http://bit.ly/2ZRkban
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Anti-Gun Hogg Makes BIG Mistake: Cites WOUNDED KNEE As Reason To Support Gov't Gun Grab | MRCTV
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HAHAHAHA

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (BqBId)

199 Easy Rawlins is my porn name

Posted by: Carlos Danger at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (FZYNt)

200 "Walter Moseley was hired to help write the very, very bad Star Trek: Discovery in season 3. From almost all accounts, it's a terrible show heavy on #Woke politics and light on actual Star Trek."

Does this mean you've never watched it?

Posted by: NCC at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (U41AC)

201 Just don't say 'Bl@zer'. Whatever you do.

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (ViZFb)

202 194 Well, this got uncomfortable in a hurry.


Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (NWiLs)

==========

I know, we're over here talking about Star Trek and Mark drops in with his "I hate Star Trek" stuff.

*pulls collar from neck in cartoonish fashion*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (iikV8)

203 Let me save you guys the trouble:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og0Or1i9riY

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
>>
I'll be in my room.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (i5RAz)

204
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No bomb found in van with 1,000 gallons of gas in downtown Baltimore
parking garage precautionary sweeps continue - Baltimore Sun


Is this that guy at the gas station with all those paint buckets in the back of his van?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (oVJmc)

205 157 144 Hey, if it's a forbidden word....it's a forbidden word for everyone.

No special racial exemptions. Or rapper exemptions.

OR...it's not a forbidden word, just a rude one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:10 PM (bcbK

I thought there was general agreement the word is rude. Like bitches and hoes, also rude.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:12 PM (4i8PS)

Dunno. Rules keep changing. When I grew up, in 70's Iowa, it was a rude word. You used it, you got your mouth washed out. It was no more forbidden than 'fuck' or 'cocksucker'.

I'm ok with not using the word, but that has to apply evenly to everyone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (bcbK8)

206 Todd Palin has filed for divorce from Sarah, citing incompatible temperaments. They've been married 31 years.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (k4dH2)

207 Blazer?

Posted by: Grump928(C)
Platinum Member
at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (0fbbp)

208 I see great things in this Thread's Future.
........

boobs?

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (v0R5T)

209 just admit you want to say the word because you have a lot of people around you who need to know they're n****ers

Indeed, they do, and indeed, I must.

Posted by: Zombie Senator Robert Byrd at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (ppBhU)

210 As we're over 100-comments in I'm sure this has been said, but the SJW/Left has precisely zero interest in a "conversation" with us - we're un-persons. Lecture? Monologue? Absolutely.

But when you have to accept a ludicrous premise like "only Caucasians can be racist" you make "conversation" literally impossible.
Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (77WPm)


Yes, in leftie circles, this premise is indeed the starting point of conversation. It is no longer questioned by many of them.

And it is not new, I heard this kind of crap over 10 years ago, just after the JEF moved to the White House.

Repeat a lie for 10 years, and nobody can tell the difference.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (sy5kK)

211 How'd you do that?

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (ViZFb)

212
People just need to start suing the crap out of companies when one of their employees decides they are going to ruin the life of another employee.

Eventually, the companies will tell the snowflakes to grow up or leave. Sure the snowflakes will sue, but eventually everybody will skip hiring these weasels. Ok, that was probably just a fantasy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (r+sAi)

213 202 194 Well, this got uncomfortable in a hurry.


Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:17 PM (NWiLs)

==========

I know, we're over here talking about Star Trek and Mark drops in with his "I hate Star Trek" stuff.

*pulls collar from neck in cartoonish fashion*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (iikV

I was forced, twice in my life, to watch Trek. I tried, I really did.

Show drove me nuts.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (bcbK8)

214 206 Todd Palin has filed for divorce from Sarah, citing incompatible temperaments. They've been married 31 years.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer

Hey Sarah,

Call me!

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (FZYNt)

215 It's just ridiculous that some employee couldn't
just remark to Mosley that they were uncomfortable with his word choice.
Instead, they behaved like a whiny college student and ran to HR (not
even their boss, but HR). It's just all so passive-aggressive, stabbing
the seasoned, successful writer in the back with some BS complaint about
an offensive word. Shame HR could just refer them back to Mosely or
their boss to deal with Mosley Rawlins. Mosley was right to determine
this was not a healthy work environment.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 04:12 PM (bDqIh)

---
This.

Actual adults can address incidents *as they occur.*

They don't have to go tell teacher on their colleagues.

Generation Stasi indeed.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (cfSRQ)

216 >>>183 Note the derogatory term, "paddies" is totes okay but the "n" word is right out.

agreed but also I don't think "paddy" is much of a slur. It just means "Patrick," so it's like calling Germans "Hans" or Russians "Ivan." I mean, it's not the most respectful thing to say -- you're making them all one indistinguishable blob -- but it's only SJWs who insist we always have to refer to people in the Most Respectful and Even Worshipful Language Possible (at least if you're part of the SJW client groups).

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (PbpT7)

217 >>Todd Palin has filed for divorce from Sarah, citing incompatible temperaments. They've been married 31 years.

Time to dust off my resume.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (ZLI7S)

218 A typical name for a Hungarian is Hunky.

Which makes me a Hunky Honky.

I should invent a dance called that.

Posted by: Miklos, maybe Wii girl could help at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (QzkSJ)

219 "Good. I keep hearing that preference cascades are a thing, but it never seems to materialize in culture."
-Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 03:52 PM (iikV

Comedians scare the sh*t out of the "Elite". It is hard to fight subversives to the "Progressive Doctrine" when the "Progressives" have become humorless scolds.

Ridicule and undermining of "The Cause" is a shoe-fit-well on the Other Foot and it Fits my Ear just fine.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (Ckg4U)

220


He was great on Magnum PI.

Posted by: E buzz the Reverend at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (Ho2bY)

221 No bomb found in van with 1,000 gallons of gas

--

I sort of like that sentence.

Oh, thank goodness there wasn't a bomb. Wait, what do you mean "fumes in an enclosed vehicle made of glass and metal"?

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (TyJCH)

222 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Posted by: JoeF. at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (NFEMn)
I had the same thought. I'm pretty sure Tarantino must be in charge of his own trailers cuz they all have the same wonderful flavor.

Staying spoiler free, I wish would see/review it as I'm curious to know his thoughts. It's certainly pissed off a lot of the right people. It's an example of free artistic expression in a place that the Left proudly runs with an iron fist.

Posted by: ... at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (5wAVp)

223 No bomb found in van with 1,000 gallons of gas in downtown Baltimore
parking garage precautionary sweeps continue - Baltimore Sun

Is this that guy at the gas station with all those paint buckets in the back of his van?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (oVJmc)
........

Whoa. FL Gas Bucket Guy made it all that way?

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (v0R5T)

224 Well, the Irish are the N-words of Europe.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (xfb67)

225 just admit you want to say the word because you have a lot of people around you who need to know they're n****ers
Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (PbpT7)

I don't say it, and I don't want to say it. BUT I do feel that if I am banned from saying something, then EVERYONE needs to be banned from saying it, because I don't like race-based laws and rules that only apply to me, and no one else. And so for this reason, I think it is perfectly appropriate for Mosely to be fired and run out of the writers room for talking like this. Same rules for everyone, no two tier systems of privileged people and less privileged people.

And I say, in complete seriousness, that all rap songs that use the n-word should be immediately banned from all airplay, and the performers who use it should be deplatformed. One set of rules.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (Kpl3J)

226 So, if they're black Irish, are they paggers?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (NWiLs)

227 >>>Does this mean you've never watched it?


yes, I've never watched it. I've watched the Red Letter Media reviews. I think I watched ten minutes of the first one when they put it on YouTube for free viewing. I turned it off because it sucked.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (PbpT7)

228 >>Todd Palin has filed for divorce from Sarah, citing incompatible temperaments. They've been married 31 years.



Who's Nailin' Palin, 2 : Electoral boogaloo

Posted by: garrett at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (ViZFb)

229 *I wish ace would see it. Don't know why autocorrect erased that.

Posted by: ... at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (5wAVp)

230 Ryan Saavedra @RealSaavedra
BREAKING: Two Planned Parenthood clinics closing in Ohio, citing state and federal funding cuts

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (BqBId)

231 Which makes me a Hunky Honky.

I should invent a dance called that.

Posted by: Miklos, maybe Wii girl could help at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (QzkSJ)

--

1980s Beastie Boys

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (TyJCH)

232 213
I was forced, twice in my life, to watch Trek. I tried, I really did.

Show drove me nuts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (bcbK

=========

Do you happen to remember which show?

I mean, I get the revulsion at the universe, but it never really holds it. The Ferengi still use money. TOS is far less socialist than the rest of the franchise. It's generally a vessel from which to tell science fiction stories that ask certain interesting questions ("Measure of a Man" in TNG is a good one like that).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (iikV8)

233 206 Todd Palin has filed for divorce from Sarah, citing incompatible temperaments. They've been married 31 years.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (k4dH2)

A: that's too bad
B: So....Sarah's back on the market?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (bcbK8)

234 Hmmm, HR person handled this over the phone.

Bet they didn't even know he was Black.

Posted by: Don Q at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (NgKpN)

235 "A typical name for a Hungarian is Hunky.
Which makes me a Hunky Honky.
I should invent a dance called that.
"
-Posted by: Miklos, maybe Wii girl could help at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (QzkSJ)

I think Don Henley did that in 1982.

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (Ckg4U)

236 Todd Palin has filed for divorce from Sarah, citing incompatible temperaments. They've been married 31 years.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (k4dH2)

I am available to console her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (jEgzt)

237 Dunno. Rules keep changing. When I grew up, in 70's Iowa, it was a rude word. You used it, you got your mouth washed out. It was no more forbidden than 'fuck' or 'cocksucker'.

I'm ok with not using the word, but that has to apply evenly to everyone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (bcbK

I've never met any sjw black people but I don't think black people are abnormally offended by the word. So I guess it gets down to what we mean by forbidden. The Left is obviously tyrannical in its ways. But among normal people I tend to view it as a fairly conventional racial slur (so sometimes used affectionately of people who aren't black).

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (4i8PS)

238 When will "The N Word" become the N word I wonder.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (fk9y/)

239 FOX Business reports that Former Pittsburgh Steelers Hall of Famer Lynn Swann has resigned as athletic director at the University of Southern California.

Would this be because of the Huffman/Laughlin college admissions cheating scandal, or some other reason?

Posted by: mercenary13 at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (F1s01)

240 That's why you stick with TOS.
It's male fantasy. Even the bridge-- Kirk's chair is a La-Z-Boy right in front of a big screen TV.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (oVJmc)



Actually, TOS was arguably a longing for "The New Frontier" and a JFK Administration where he was never assassinated, only set in outer space and the future.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (ujg0T)

241 I was forced, twice in my life, to watch Trek. I tried, I really did.

Show drove me nuts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (bcbK

Every man should be free to drive his own nuts.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (NWiLs)

242 I'm sort of embarrassed to have to admit that I had to look-up the fact that TOS == The Original Series

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (77WPm)

243 > That's why you stick with TOS.
> It's male fantasy.

Yes. They talk about "peace" a lot, but if you fuck with him Kirk will cheerfully phaser your planet right down to bedrock, then go have a good dinner, bang a female yeoman and sleep soundly afterward.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (cB5if)

244 Most Hilarious Part of Story:

Mosley went on to explain that the individual in HR said that while he
was free to use that word in a script, he "could not say it."

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (oVJmc)

245 1980s Beastie Boys
Posted by: Moron Robbie

I was thinking more Smokey Robinson, but, yeah, Beastie Boys would work.

Posted by: Miklos, doing the Hunky Honky children at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (QzkSJ)

246 Ace's house, ace's rules.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (RD7QR)

247 Speaking of entertaining teevee, "Air Disasters" last evening featured a few scenes with a smokin' hot Hong Kong air traffic controller. Wouldn't have minded navigating her glide slope.

Yes, I denounce myself.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (dfRN6)

248 All the Star Treks are awful.

Someone needed to say it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (xfb67)

249 Ryan Saavedra @RealSaavedra
BREAKING: Two Planned Parenthood clinics closing in Ohio, citing state and federal funding cuts
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit

2 down so many more to go. Thanks DS

Posted by: Sock Monkey ...just a peasant at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (GF84D)

250 I never missed an opportunity to see Uhura's legs.

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

251 Crackers

Posted by: jennifer anniston's perky nipples at September 09, 2019 04:24 PM (E67Aw)

252 232 213
I was forced, twice in my life, to watch Trek. I tried, I really did.

Show drove me nuts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (bcbK

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Do you happen to remember which show?

I mean, I get the revulsion at the universe, but it never really holds it. The Ferengi still use money. TOS is far less socialist than the rest of the franchise. It's generally a vessel from which to tell science fiction stories that ask certain interesting questions ("Measure of a Man" in TNG is a good one like that).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (iikV

Next Gen, back in the 90's...my roommate in college was obsessed with the show. I hated everyone but Q, smug self righteous hypocrites. A memorable low point was when the Enterprise turned the atmosphere of a planet to PLASMA...and then they land and everything is green and fine. I was like 'nope', I'm out.

Then DS9 a couple of years ago. I got through two and half seasons. I basically hated everyone except Quark and Odo.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:24 PM (bcbK8)

253 250 I never missed an opportunity to see Uhura's legs.
Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

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Aaaaaabbbbssss...

Mirror, Mirror

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:24 PM (iikV8)

254 If I want something compelling and thought provoking I read a book

Posted by: Sock Monkey
>>
I can watch a tv show and have no desire to re play it. With a book I can reread it over and over if it's good.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:24 PM (i5RAz)

255 218 A typical name for a Hungarian is Hunky.

Which makes me a Hunky Honky.

I should invent a dance called that.
Posted by: Miklos, maybe Wii girl could help at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (QzkSJ)

Bohonky

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:24 PM (NWiLs)

256 @239

Reasonable assumption, but their sports teams have been a debacle for quite awhile now. Better to get out after a football win than be escorted out after another loss.

Posted by: H Badger at September 09, 2019 04:24 PM (n/0Nw)

257 Oh, an when did the utterance of a word become grounds for losing one's livelihood? When did that become illegal and a firing offense?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 03:57 PM (HaL55)

Right??!!

Posted by: Guy Who Used the Word "Niggardly" at September 09, 2019 04:24 PM (vkS2Z)

258 A 1000 gallons of gasoline is over 130 cubic feet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at September 09, 2019 04:25 PM (0fbbp)

259 241 I was forced, twice in my life, to watch Trek. I tried, I really did.

Show drove me nuts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:19 PM (bcbK

Every man should be free to drive his own nuts.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (NWiLs)

Heh

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:25 PM (bcbK8)

260 224 Well, the Irish are the N-words of Europe.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (xfb67)



And Doobliners are the Blacks of Ireland!
And North Doobliners are the Blacks of Dooblin!

have not watched "The Commitments" in years.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:25 PM (ujg0T)

261 I didn't realize this happened months ago. I'm hoping the "snowball" angle turns out to have legs.

Posted by: Chris W at September 09, 2019 04:25 PM (Y9uNK)

262 I'm ok with not using the word, but that has to apply evenly to everyone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:18 PM (bcbK

That's most people's opinion. You have to choose if it applies to everyone or not. I heard a black sports guy going off on MLB for suspending a player for calling a white ump that word. The sports guy was talking about studies and the nuance of the word, and how blacks basically own when and where it can be used. Sorry, no you don't get that power.

Posted by: WOPR at September 09, 2019 04:25 PM (J70i0)

263 It's also 6000 lbs.

Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at September 09, 2019 04:25 PM (0fbbp)

264 Moseley should have known better than to violate the Prime Directive.

Posted by: Roy at September 09, 2019 04:26 PM (0yxK0)

265 I hate the universe it posits, I hate the socialism, I hate that
they want to have their military org cake and eat it, non militarily.


My longstanding in-universe explanation is that after the events of ST VI, the Federation population elected a Sanders/Nader ticket that gutted Starfleet and tried to turn it into a purely exploratory group, while letting the Klingons handle the defense of both the Empire and the Federation. This did not work out well, and by TNG we see the results, with the Federation overexpanded and unable to patrol their own territory, a low-level war against the Cardassians which they can't win and can't afford to lose, and a Starfleet that was weakened by decades of political animals and deliberate weakness. It was only after Wolf 359 that the Federation began to correct course.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 09, 2019 04:26 PM (wCmLp)

266 252
Next Gen, back in the 90's...my roommate in college was obsessed with the show. I hated everyone but Q, smug self righteous hypocrites. A memorable low point was when the Enterprise turned the atmosphere of a planet to PLASMA...and then they land and everything is green and fine. I was like 'nope', I'm out.

Then DS9 a couple of years ago. I got through two and half seasons. I basically hated everyone except Quark and Odo.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:24 PM (bcbK

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Well, 2.5 seasons of probably the best show and you're done. There's no turning back from that.

Another thing about Star Trek in general, though, is that it's not really science fiction. It's techno-fantasy.

There's little to no scientific rigor to any "scifi" concept in the show. It's just what the (generally) uneducated writers decided would work.

Hell, I know that when the writers were writing TNG, they would include the word [tech] in places and have a consultant fill the void with technobabble.

People who view the show as science fiction I find funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:26 PM (iikV8)

267 Capt. James T. Kirk's HR files would take volumes in a library if Scotty didn't manage to "lose" the transmissions in subspace communications.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 09, 2019 04:26 PM (qAR6u)

268
And Doobliners are the Blacks of Ireland!

And North Doobliners are the Blacks of Dooblin!


Oim black, and oim prood!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:26 PM (oVJmc)

269 I've never met any sjw black people but I don't think black people are abnormally offended by the word. So I guess it gets down to what we mean by forbidden. The Left is obviously tyrannical in its ways. But among normal people I tend to view it as a fairly conventional racial slur (so sometimes used affectionately of people who aren't black).
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (4i8PS)


Seriously never knew of a black SJW? Jemelle Hill would like to have a word with you. Or more accurately, about 20,000 words. And you don't get to answer.

Posted by: Ted K. at September 09, 2019 04:26 PM (FJYfm)

270 ace, this is fun, but to make it mo betta, let's discuss why the Holocaust gets so much attention! [a recent favorite of mine here, maybe you saw those nuggets]



Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2019 04:26 PM (QDnY+)

271 If the word, any word, is forbidden for some, then it is forbidden for all. If the word is that offensive, that triggering, then no one, especially black people, can use it. It would be even worse for them to use it then somebody else. If that's the case, then Discovery's HR department was correct.

Because in this day and age, the context is irrelevant.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (nWmg2)

272 >> was thinking more Smokey Robinson, but, yeah, Beastie Boys would work.

You want Smokey.

You'd settle for Beastie Boys.

You will get Parliament Funkadelic

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (ZLI7S)

273 I think Don Henley did that in 1982.
Posted by: Slapweasel

*fires up time machine for retroactive copyright filing*

Posted by: Miklos, Tim e Master-is it Monday or Tuesday at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (QzkSJ)

274 you're making them all one indistinguishable blob


Je suis Jim Swift

Posted by: Bulwark staffer at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (786Ro)

275 243 > That's why you stick with TOS.
> It's male fantasy.

Yes. They talk about "peace" a lot, but if you fuck with him Kirk will cheerfully phaser your planet right down to bedrock, then go have a good dinner, bang a female yeoman and sleep soundly afterward.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (cB5if)



Like I said, "The New Frontier" only set in the future outer space. Kirk as JFK.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (ujg0T)

276 WRT the "n" word...whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

There has to be one rule for everyone.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (Qf6sY)

277 The van was registered in Canada so you have to multiply everything by 0.62

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (TyJCH)

278 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:24 PM (bcbK


I actually tried hard to get into TNG but couldn't. The only character I identified with was Data because he was as awkward as me. Picard was a beta-male captain, Riker was just too silly at times, only the (nominal) girls were allowed to be "tough", etc.

I liked DS9 for a while but it went about 2-seasons too long. I agree completely that Enterprise got better as the seasons went on - until it didn't. Never watched Voyager - Janeway was just too fvcking annoying. Never watched any of the newer crap because fvck their "kneeling" "protest" in particular.

Posted by: DocJ at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (77WPm)

279 222 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Posted by: JoeF. at September 09, 2019 04:07 PM (NFEMn)
I had the same thought. I'm pretty sure Tarantino must be in charge of his own trailers cuz they all have the same wonderful flavor.

Staying spoiler free, I wish would see/review it as I'm curious to know his thoughts. It's certainly pissed off a lot of the right people. It's an example of free artistic expression in a place that the Left proudly runs with an iron fist.
Posted by: ... at September 09, 2019 04:20 PM (5wAVp)

Best movie I've seen this year.
Not a great film, but damn good. Especially the bits with the murdering hippies getting theirs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (bcbK8)

280 A 1000 gallons of gasoline is over 130 cubic feet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at September 09, 2019 04:25 PM (0fbbp)
.......

and about $3500 here in CA

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

281 >>Yes. They talk about "peace" a lot, but if you fuck with him Kirk will cheerfully phaser your planet right down to bedrock, then go have a good dinner, bang a female yeoman and sleep soundly afterward.


Space. . . the final frontier. . . to go to new planets and bang their chicks! Kirk is the best, followed closely by John Crichton.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (bDqIh)

282 275 Like I said, "The New Frontier" only set in the future outer space. Kirk as JFK.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (ujg0T)

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Young, good with the ladies, fiercely pro-American?

I can buy it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (iikV8)

283 Go fuck yourself raimondo.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (HaL55)

284 Most Hilarious Part of Story:

Mosley went on to explain that the individual in HR said that while he
was free to use that word in a script, he "could not say it."

-
Yeah, the rules keep changing and I'm too old a dog to learn new tricks.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (+y/Ru)

285 As gently as I can, I'll say that ST's writing is so bad that I doubt anyone can fix it. Production/direction sucks even worse.

I mean, there will be some dire emergency where they have five minutes to do something or else all die, and the engineer guy will be talking to someone about his destroyed relationship with his spouse/whatever he is.

It's very lame and easily the most boring Trek there is.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (Rk2Ph)

286 When will "The N Word" become the N word I wonder.


The unpronounceable glyph formerly known as the N-Word.

Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (0fbbp)

287 272 >> was thinking more Smokey Robinson, but, yeah, Beastie Boys would work.

You want Smokey.

You'd settle for Beastie Boys.

You will get Parliament Funkadelic
Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 04:27 PM (ZLI7S)

I'm in.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (bcbK8)

288 248
All the Star Treks are awful.



Someone needed to say it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 04:23 PM (xfb67)

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Not so much.

I do find it curious how poeple can see a thread on a topic that doesn't really engage them and feel the need to tell everyone this.

As opposed to, you know, doing something else.

Anyhow, TOS is fun and campy and has some amusing moments and even deep thoughts.

But Shatner's legendary rant on SNL was spot on: Get a life.

I watched TNG when it came on out of boredom, but it was too stupid and I quit.

Anyway, if writers aren't free to be creative during brainstorming, we really do live in a police state. The solution is to shame and ridicule people who behave that way. Showcase their stupidity and narrow-mindedness and make fun of their prissy Victorian ways.

Mockery is a powerful weapon.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (cfSRQ)

289
and about $3500 here in CA

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

cheapest I could find was $3.35/gallon - so excited (seriously)

Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (a0IVu)

290 maybe you saw those nuggets]

That's RAAAAACIST!!!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (NWiLs)

291 N***er?

well, to tell a family secret, my grandmother was Dutch......

Posted by: comrade nurse ratched at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (d7Ww2)

292 Anyway, Walter Mosely IS a good writer, if you like detective stuff.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (bcbK8)

293 269 I've never met any sjw black people but I don't think black people are abnormally offended by the word. So I guess it gets down to what we mean by forbidden. The Left is obviously tyrannical in its ways. But among normal people I tend to view it as a fairly conventional racial slur (so sometimes used affectionately of people who aren't black).
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:22 PM (4i8PS)


Seriously never knew of a black SJW? Jemelle Hill would like to have a word with you. Or more accurately, about 20,000 words. And you don't get to answer.

Posted by: Ted K. at September 09, 2019 04:26 PM (FJYfm)

I'm not saying they don't exist or I haven't read stuff from or about them, just I've never met any personally. Any environ dominated by the Left it's a forbidden word, outside of that it seems fairly ttpical of racial slurs in my experience.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (4i8PS)

294 Space. . . the final frontier. . . to go to new planets and bang their chicks! Kirk is the best, followed closely by John Crichton.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (bDqIh)


Crichton over Kirk. Kirk never walked into a high-level meeting between two hostile empires with a nuke strapped to his chest and told them all to suck his dick.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (wCmLp)

295 You will get Parliament Funkadelic
Posted by: JackStraw

I voted for George Clinton twice. Never saw him wear the hat at the press conferences though.

Posted by: Miklos, extreme LIV at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (QzkSJ)

296 One can never have too much Parliament/Funkadelic.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (HaL55)

297 FFS, so many commenters here arguing over the n word and when to use or not use it and who gets to use it.

Follow me very closely here: THE WORD IS NOT THE POINT

Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (786Ro)

298 285 As gently as I can, I'll say that ST's writing is so bad that I doubt anyone can fix it. Production/direction sucks even worse.

I mean, there will be some dire emergency where they have five minutes to do something or else all die, and the engineer guy will be talking to someone about his destroyed relationship with his spouse/whatever he is.

It's very lame and easily the most boring Trek there is.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (Rk2Ph)

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They literally don't know how to write stories.

It's a weird trait to have for writers of a television series.

I have to imagine the interview process:

"So, do you understand structure, plot, and how to include well-written characters that touches on interesting themes?"

"I do."

"Next!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (iikV8)

299 Never had the desire to use ethic slurs . I stick with the use of the all encompassing asshole, punk bitch , pussy , etc.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 04:30 PM (YB89a)

300 And yeah, it's worse than ST: V. In the last few seasons it turned into the 7 of 9 show because Braga was schtupping Ryan, but at least she looked good in a catsuit.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:30 PM (Rk2Ph)

301 The MSM is going to have a blast at the Palin's expense...

Posted by: JoeF. at September 09, 2019 04:30 PM (NFEMn)

302 The unpronounceable glyph formerly known as the N-Word.
Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (0fbbp)

Well, Prince isn't using his any more.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 04:30 PM (jEgzt)

303 The point is SJWs are getting into everything and policing everyone. Assimilate or be #Cancelled

Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 04:30 PM (786Ro)

304 and about $3500 here in CA

Same as in town

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (NWiLs)

305 yes, I've never watched it. I've watched the Red
Letter Media reviews. I think I watched ten minutes of the first one
when they put it on YouTube for free viewing. I turned it off because it
sucked.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (PbpT7)

I tried watching that one as well and it was bad. RLM did a little 10 minute skit about season two that was pretty funny. When reviewing season two, they showed quick clips of the scenes they were mocking. It was horrible, the show I mean. It is killing Mike who is a huge Trek fan.

Posted by: WOPR at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (J70i0)

306 *POUNCE!*

Posted by: comrade nurse ratched at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (d7Ww2)

307 300 And yeah, it's worse than ST: V. In the last few seasons it turned into the 7 of 9 show because Braga was schtupping Ryan, but at least she looked good in a catsuit.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:30 PM (Rk2Ph)

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7 of 9 was the single most interesting character on that show. And I'm not talking about her boobs. She had a past that she was haunted by. She had dual loyalty issues. They used her really well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (iikV8)

308 297 FFS, so many commenters here arguing over the n word and when to use or not use it and who gets to use it.

Follow me very closely here: THE WORD IS NOT THE POINT
Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (786Ro)



An image of the "Walter Sobchak" character from "The Big Lebowski" comes to mind here.

We DO need to draw our lines in the sand against the Leftists and stop heeding theirs.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (ujg0T)

309 Ace I'll disagree with you (sort of) in the use of paddy. Taken in a different time frame it was very much the same. My grandfather and his brothers would have broken your nose if you called them that and you weren't of the green.

Posted by: Sock Monkey ...just a peasant at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (GF84D)

310 anybody got a match?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (cqNba)

311 The point is SJWs are getting into everything and policing everyone. Assimilate or be #Cancelled



Whoa! Mind.Blown.

Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (0fbbp)

312 People who view the show as science fiction I find funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,>>Several of the TOS shows were by sci fi writers, and were adaptations of short stories/novellas. A number of authors were consultants I believe.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (i5RAz)

313 Damn your eyes Jim! That Vulcan won't admit he's a half-breed with a bad case of Prime Directive.

Posted by: ZombieBones at September 09, 2019 04:32 PM (0x00j)

314 and about $3500 here in CA

Same as in town
Posted by: Insomniac

Then the $ is for pesos

3500$

Posted by: Miklos, west of South of the Border at September 09, 2019 04:32 PM (QzkSJ)

315 Just reading about another one of the clients that former presidential wannabe and CNN's favorite contributor Michael Avenatti ripped off.

Some NBA player's ex-girlfriend hired Avenatti to represent her, and she got a $3 million settlement from the NBA guy (on paper anyway). Avenatti told her it would be paid out in 96 payments over 8 years. In reality, the NBA guy paid $2.75 million in one payment in 2017, and then another $250,000 payment was scheduled for 2020.

Avenatti stole most of the woman's 2017 $2.75 million payment and used it to buy himself a jet. The woman got less than $200,000.

Such a scumbag. CNN must miss him. He was such a perfect fit for that crew of misfits and perverts and crooks.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 09, 2019 04:32 PM (k4dH2)

316 A 1000 gallons of gasoline is over 130 cubic feet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) muses at September 09, 2019 04:25 PM (0fbbp)
.......

and about $3500 here in CA
Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM



That's a lot of Home Depot buckets

Posted by: Hands at September 09, 2019 04:32 PM (786Ro)

317 The Dominion War Arc of DS9, a series of 10 episodes in Season 7, is arguably the best televised Sci-Fi series of episodes ever made. Some incredibly good writing went into those.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:32 PM (Kpl3J)

318 306 *POUNCE!*
Posted by: comrade nurse ratched at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (d7Ww2)

WooHOO!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:33 PM (NWiLs)

319 Been working in businesses large and small for 30+ years. I have yet to find a dimmer group of people than those working in a corporate HR department.
Posted by: DocJ

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Agreed, but you can use that to your advantage. I verbally sparred with a HR dimwit until she said, in front of the HR SVP, "No, you can't be gay because you are married with children." (I claimed I was discriminated against as I was gay. 'Gay' - old school meaning - happy.)

HR SVP - facepalm. Complaint dismissed.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 09, 2019 04:33 PM (Y4EXg)

320 312 People who view the show as science fiction I find funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,>>Several of the TOS shows were by sci fi writers, and were adaptations of short stories/novellas. A number of authors were consultants I believe.
Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (i5RAz)

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Let me expand:

I view very little of what passes for "science fiction" as science fiction.

There are exceptions within Star Trek, but the transporter? Pure fantasy. Warp speed? Pure fantasy. Hell, in The Cage, they fly halfway across the galaxy in no time.

Sure, there are some ex post facto justifications for this, but they invented the transporter not because it was scientifically plausible. They invented it because they didn't have the money to construct a shuttle and used a cheap optical effect instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:33 PM (iikV8)

321 They literally don't know how to write stories.



It's a weird trait to have for writers of a television series.



I have to imagine the interview process:



"So, do you understand structure, plot, and how to include well-written characters that touches on interesting themes?"



"I do."



"Next!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (iikV

If you look at the writers they pick, they are mainly CW writers. It's not plot that matters, but does Bobby still like Jane?

Posted by: WOPR at September 09, 2019 04:33 PM (J70i0)

322
They literally don't know how to write stories.



It's a weird trait to have for writers of a television series.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (iikV

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I'm pretty sure all they learn in school is a set of tropes and that they should aspire to include social justice in their writing.

Also character development is super-important, which is why a TV show about zombies had to spend a season where people talked about their feelings.

Mind you, none of them have read any decent literature or watched classic films, so their idea of "good" is Marvel movies.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 09, 2019 04:33 PM (cfSRQ)

323 HR departments are mostly staffed with dimwits who managed to finish 4 years of college and are mostly the "diversity" hires they have to take on.

They were initially assigned to HR and forgotten as it was figured their stupidity wouldn't wreck the machinery. That was in the days they were the "Personnel Dept."

One of the best lines in a movie happened in "The Enforcer" when the captain informs him he's being reassigned to Personnel...

"PERSONNEL? That's for assholes!"


Posted by: kbdabear at September 09, 2019 04:33 PM (qAR6u)

324 311 The point is SJWs are getting into everything and policing everyone. Assimilate or be #Cancelled

Resistance is futile.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:33 PM (NWiLs)

325 I only saw two episodes, one in each season, but I read about the others, in the first season, the Klingons were trump supporters, make quo'nos great again) then there was Jason isaacs character who was from the mirror universe, he was killed off at the end,

In the second season, we have the red angel, who is some time traveling being from the far future, which cardboard cut Michael burnham, travels into the 32nd century, and they delete all records of her existence,

Posted by: admiral marcus at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (x+C/t)

326 imagine the tattletales in elementary school didn't get slapped up the side of the head by the kids and told to stfu by the teachers and you get the world we live in today because that stuff stopped happening at some point.

Posted by: x at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (nFwvY)

327 And I say, in complete seriousness, that all rap
songs that use the n-word should be immediately banned from all airplay,
and the performers who use it should be deplatformed. One set of
rules.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:21 PM (Kpl3J)

Yes. That is perfectly reasonable, and a total fantasy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (wYseH)

328 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (Zz0t1)

329 7 of 9 was the single most interesting character on that show. And I'm not talking about her boobs. She had a past that she was haunted by. She had dual loyalty issues. They used her really well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (iikV

Did you mean the Borg Character, or Jeri Ryan?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (Kpl3J)

330 "Well, to tell a family secret, my grandmother was Dutch..."
-Posted by: comrade nurse ratched at September 09, 2019 04:29 PM (d7Ww2)

"There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch."

-Michael Caine

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (Ckg4U)

331 Most science fiction isn't all that sciency. Doing that would require having serious consultants. And what's the point? It would be lost on the largely scientifically illiterate audience. (I prefer scifi that takes the science seriously. But I don't think there's a huge demo for that.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (ppBhU)

332 Yes. That is perfectly reasonable, and a total fantasy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (wYseH)

well, that's what the internet is for, isn't it?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (Kpl3J)

333

Rawlin Rawlin Rawlin
Though the streams are swallin
Keep those dogies rawlin
Rawhide

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (aKsyK)

334 I didn't like DS9 because they didn't go anywhere in the first seasons. People tell me that got better later.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (0fbbp)

335 cheapest I could find was $3.35/gallon - so excited (seriously)

Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (a0IVu)
........

That's a good deal, I paid $3.89 today.

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (v0R5T)

336 Posted by: TheJamesMadison,>>Several of the TOS shows were by sci fi writers, and were adaptations of short stories/novellas. A number of authors were consultants I believe.
Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (i5RAz)

There's no law that requires science fiction to have all its "science" consistent with what we currently know about the universe. Otherwise all stories with faster than light travel would be verboten.

Science fiction authors all play fast and loose with Science As We Know It, some moreso than others.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (jEgzt)

337 I like Discovery and don't get the SJW label. It's as if Trek hasn't always been about what we call "diversity."

As for this thing with Mosley, what did he expect? He's been around leftists forever and is one. And it isn't as if they fired him.

To me, it sounds like he was looking for an excuse to quit and to pitch a fit.

One more thing: Discovery has a number of black writers. I bet it was one of them who complained.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (SIP8o)

338 This reads like the scene in "Blazing Saddles" where Cleavon Little's character takes himself hostage. The SJW tattletale is playing the part of the old lady who says, "Please! Won't somebody help that man?!!"

Posted by: Greenberry at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (QUrld)

339 Admiral, yeah that was an extremely stupid way to reconcile canon inconsistencies that they didn't care about anyway. Let's all swear to never speak of Spock's sister ever again, nope, not one person who ever knew her ever ever fucking ever can speak her name ever.

Stupid.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (Rk2Ph)

340 > There's little to no scientific rigor to any "scifi" concept in the show.

It all depends on how picky you are.

If the standard is strict scientific accuracy, you can't have faster than light travel at all, because as far as we know it's not possible to do that.

On the other hand, we now actually have some of the things in the original Star Trek (for example, the communicators).

But yeah, Trek did play pretty fast and loose with the science.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (cB5if)

341 331 Most science fiction isn't all that sciency. Doing that would require having serious consultants. And what's the point? It would be lost on the largely scientifically illiterate audience. (I prefer scifi that takes the science seriously. But I don't think there's a huge demo for that.)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (ppBhU)

==========

In my experience, hard science fiction is largely unreadable because the people who know the science can't write at all (Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars series is unreadable nonsense, but it was pretty scientifically accurate).

The only ones who seems to balance it pretty well were Asimov and Clarke, but they were as much speculative as hard science fiction. At least Clarke would read a scientific paper and then expand on it in fiction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (iikV8)

342 331 Most science fiction isn't all that sciency. Doing that would require having serious consultants. And what's the point? It would be lost on the largely scientifically illiterate audience. (I prefer scifi that takes the science seriously. But I don't think there's a huge demo for that.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 04:34 PM (ppBhU)

Sci fi as a genre of literature is a lot of philosophy wank. Which is why Star Wars is frequently considered space fantasy or space opera.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (4i8PS)

343 >>>262 I'm ok with not using the word, but that has to apply evenly to everyone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,

white people can say "cracker ass cracker" to each other and it will be understood as harmless or mostly harmless.

Would you say that blacks can freely call you "cracker ass cracker" and it's no big deal?

You seem to be deliberately ignoring the rule, which applies to everyone, that if someone uses a slur that applies to *himself* it's either considered a joke or harmless or a much, much lesser violation than if he uses slurs about other groups.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (PbpT7)

344 And somewhere, Sybok is all "what a bitch."

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (Rk2Ph)

345 I got a call from HR because I was overheard by a black female employee saying Tiger Woods sold his soul to the devil after one of his fortunate wins when the rest of the field collapsed.

Supposedly that was racist. To be fair, HR was just covering their butts and basically indicated that to me between the lines.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (YB89a)

346 334 I didn't like DS9 because they didn't go anywhere in the first seasons. People tell me that got better later.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (0fbbp)

==========

Yeah, they drop the religion stuff pretty hard in season 2. It's still in the background, but it's never in the forefront all that much again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:37 PM (iikV8)

347 289
and about $3500 here in CA

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

cheapest I could find was $3.35/gallon - so excited (seriously)
Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (a0IVu)

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$2.93 today at Costco in a suburb of Seattle, still around $3.50 at the brand name gas stations.

It has dropped a quarter or more in the last month.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 04:37 PM (sy5kK)

348 > Otherwise all stories with faster than light travel would be verboten.

Snap!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:37 PM (cB5if)

349 That's a good deal, I paid $3.89 today.
Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (v0R5T)

Highest I paid between Montana and Arizona was 2.89, and it's 2.79 here in AJ. Some some over three bucks, but that was in known tourist traps, like Wickiup.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 04:37 PM (jEgzt)

350 Orville got better to the point I didn't mind the soap opera bits as much. it still isnt the Galaxy Quest it wants to be but it is fine for what it is

Orville never wanted to be Galaxy Quest. By MacFarlane's own admission he just wanted to make TNG/DS9, and he snuck it past Fox by selling it as more of a parody than it actually ended up being.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 09, 2019 04:37 PM (ZGrMX)

351 Harlan Ellison/i] wrote for Trek to name just one of the great writers who scripted the original series. They didn't have to worry about making up canons and story arcs for characters.

Posted by: ZombieBones at September 09, 2019 04:37 PM (0x00j)

352 336 Posted by: TheJamesMadison,>>Several of the TOS shows were by sci fi writers, and were adaptations of short stories/novellas. A number of authors were consultants I believe.
Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:31 PM (i5RAz)

There's no law that requires science fiction to have all its "science" consistent with what we currently know about the universe. Otherwise all stories with faster than light travel would be verboten.

Science fiction authors all play fast and loose with Science As We Know It, some moreso than others.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (jEgzt)

==========

And that's my point.

It's no longer science fiction. It's techno fantasy.

I'm not saying it's invalid storytelling, but holding Star Trek up to this standard that it needs to be scientifically accurate (like Rich in RLM does to Discovery, a show I loathe, by the way) is silly since Star Trek has an episode (that's in canon) of Tom Paris going faster than warp 10 and becoming a space lizard.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:38 PM (iikV8)

353 I was told that was "their" word to use as they see fit

Posted by: LTCHAM at September 09, 2019 04:38 PM (LkVch)

354 OrangeManBad stirring up trouble.

Felicia Sonmez@feliciasonmez
Trump jokes about extending his second term to 2026 so he can still be in office when the U.S. (along with Canada and Mexico) hosts the World Cup

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 04:38 PM (+y/Ru)

355 Let me expand:


I view very little of what passes for "science fiction" as science fiction.... optical effect instead.>>Agreed, but 'Starship Troopers' and 'Forever War' are both science fiction. One more realistic that the other, true. But both good stories and fun. Suspension of disbelief and all that.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:39 PM (i5RAz)

356
Duh roh

Posted by: ZombieBones at September 09, 2019 04:39 PM (0x00j)

357 >>>Several of the TOS shows were by sci fi writers, and were adaptations of short stories/novellas. A number of authors were consultants I believe.

one Animated Series episode featured Larry Niven's Kzin and references to the Man-Kzin wars lore. It was adapted from one of Niven's story, something about a pain weapon. I don't think he wrote the script but he was credited and paid.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:39 PM (PbpT7)

358 342
Sci fi as a genre of literature is a lot of philosophy wank. Which is why Star Wars is frequently considered space fantasy or space opera.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (4i8PS)

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Star Wars has space wizards. Total fantasy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:39 PM (iikV8)

359 Sad... Todd Palin files for divorce from Sarah.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 09, 2019 04:39 PM (wiXsO)

360 OrangeManBad stirring up trouble.

Felicia Sonmez@feliciasonmez
Trump jokes about extending his second term to 2026 so he can still be in office when the U.S. (along with Canada and Mexico) hosts the World Cup

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 09, 2019 04:38 PM (+y/Ru)




Tell me there will be heads on pikes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:39 PM (0fbbp)

361 Then DS9 a couple of years ago. I got through two and half seasons. I basically hated everyone except Quark and Odo.

Later on in DS9 they admitted the Federation was a bunch of idealist hypocrites and set fire wholesale to Roddenberry's hippy-dippy politics. Also they started shooting a lot more. That's why it's the best Trek series.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (ZGrMX)

362 Moseley's story is a perfect illustration of why the writing is such shit-- these little snowflakes can't understand or deal with ideas. They're indoctrinated little flowers whose intellects are at permanent sandbox level.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (oVJmc)

363 That's a good deal, I paid $3.89 today.

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (v0R5T)

I paid $2.44 this morning and I am still furious at that fat fvck Christie for raising the gas tax in NJ.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (wYseH)

364 > The only ones who seems to balance it pretty well were Asimov and Clarke, but they were as much speculative as hard science fiction.

The closest to scientifically accurate movie I can think of is 2001. The part with the aliens and the ape people is sheer speculation, of course, but the space scenes are quite good, and look very close to how it would actually be. The special effects still look good, 50 years later.

Of course, that was because Kubrick had a near-autistic level of obsession.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (cB5if)

365 Oh, and time crystals.

Sigh.

Was half expecting to see a TARDIS in the background. Sylvester McCoy's of course. He has enough camp to appear in ST: D.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (Rk2Ph)

366 Yeah somebody slipped Coke into Trump's Diet Coke, he's tweetin' up a storm and, as often, on many fronts.


The pre-boredom for the day he leaves the Oval is already a looming, oppressive thing.



Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (QDnY+)

367 289
and about $3500 here in CA

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

cheapest I could find was $3.35/gallon - so excited (seriously)
Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (a0IVu)

-------------

$2.93 today at Costco in a suburb of Seattle, still around $3.50 at the brand name gas stations.

It has dropped a quarter or more in the last month.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 04:37 PM (sy5kK)


$2.35 at BJs wholesale club here in northeastern MA.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (Ki5SV)

368 Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (PbpT7)

I agree ace but the penalty for an n-word slip is higher than anything out there, especially if you're a conservative.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 04:41 PM (YB89a)

369 OT: Sorry to read that the Todd and Sarah Palin have filed for divorce. The left will have a field day with this and as usual, they will be their obnoxious nasty selves not caring about the kids in the family.

Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 04:41 PM (oiNtH)

370 358 342
Sci fi as a genre of literature is a lot of philosophy wank. Which is why Star Wars is frequently considered space fantasy or space opera.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (4i8PS)

=========

Star Wars has space wizards. Total fantasy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:39 PM (iikV

Midichlorians

Checkmate atheist.

Lots of sci fi hand waves stuff. Look at Dune. Space wizards my ass.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:41 PM (4i8PS)

371 Larry Niven's Kzin
>>Yep.
Direct adaptation of Niven's story with ST characters replacing non=Kzin roles.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:41 PM (i5RAz)

372 Go fuck yourself raimondo.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism

A raimondo sighting? Someone should ask him how much Zombie pays him to be his nic pic model.

Posted by: Sock Monkey ...is it Monday, feels like a Monday at September 09, 2019 04:41 PM (GF84D)

373 >>369 OT: Sorry to read that the Todd and Sarah Palin have filed for divorce. The left will have a field day with this and as usual, they will be their obnoxious nasty selves not caring about the kids in the family.

so you're saying i've got a chance....?

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:41 PM (PbpT7)

374 361 Then DS9 a couple of years ago. I got through two and half seasons. I basically hated everyone except Quark and Odo.

Later on in DS9 they admitted the Federation was a bunch of idealist hypocrites and set fire wholesale to Roddenberry's hippy-dippy politics. Also they started shooting a lot more. That's why it's the best Trek series.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (ZGrMX)

===========

I imagined an alternate version of Voyager where the theme of the show is, "Can the Federation survive without the benefits of home?"

Would Voyager stay recognizably part of the Federation after several years where they have to fight for resources, they can't replace their uniforms, and they have to stock up with crewmen using people who've never heard of the Federation?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:41 PM (iikV8)

375 Just looked at a picture of Moseley...damn but Talcum X is blacker than THAT guy.
Maybe you have to tad darker than copy paper to toss THE ENWORD around?

Posted by: I Have Questions at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (BvNzB)

376 >>Would you say that blacks can freely call you "cracker ass cracker" and it's no big deal?

Yea.

I'm ok with not using the N word because all of the obvious reasons. But blacks do frequently use the cracker term and there is almost no pushback let alone consequences that I've ever seen.

I think that's the real problem. There are two sets of rules that come with the language policing and the hypocrisy is what pisses people off.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (ZLI7S)

377 $2.35 at BJs wholesale club here in northeastern MA.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (Ki5SV)

A most deceptively and disappointingly named store if ever I've seen one.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (NWiLs)

378 That's a good deal, I paid $3.89 today.

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (v0R5T)

I paid $2.44 this morning and I am still furious at that fat fvck Christie for raising the gas tax in NJ.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

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Ouch! I paid $2.04/gal this morning - Central Ohio.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (Y4EXg)

379 Who Watches The Watchmen?

Posted by: That Guy Who Always Says 'Who Watches The Watchmen?' at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (RKQ/v)

380 359 Sad... Todd Palin files for divorce from Sarah.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 09, 2019 04:39 PM (wiXsO)



Just wondering - what went wrong with them in RECENT years? I would have imagined the strain on them would have been when the Left media wolves were after them.

I always figured that it would be hardest on the "First Gentleman" when his wife is a high powered politician. I often wonder how Denis Thatcher took it so well.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (ujg0T)

381 > $2.35 at BJs wholesale club

They sell those wholesale now? And only $2.35? How many do you have to buy to get the wholesale price?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (cB5if)

382 Bet it cost a bundle to fill up the Enterprise.

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (v0R5T)

383
Would Voyager stay recognizably part of the Federation after several years where they have to fight for resources, they can't replace their uniforms, and they have to stock up with crewmen using people who've never heard of the Federation?

---

Yup, lots of potential there that Ron Moore pointed out was totally ignored by the writers.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (Rk2Ph)

384 You said "silence" twice.

I really like silence.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (Mo1SD)

385 >> I'm not saying they don't exist or I haven't read stuff from or about them, just I've never met any personally.


This is just so off. I have met many blacks who are just itching to call people out for being "disrespectful," or "talking down", or giving slow service because they are black, or swearing up and down about someone's use of language.

Not saying any more than other groups, but this is all part of the SJW mentality - the mentality of policing others based on offense or language or opinion.

I think that's the change - most people want to live and let live, and you learn to shrug off the slings and arrows. SJWs want a perfect world and they will rape your family in order to get it.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (LWu6U)

386 $2.44/gallon?!


Luxury!


Here in CA, $3.35-ish still the norm [best price].


Of course you get a much higher % chance of being hit by a drunk illegal alien uninsured driver, so there are pluses to the situation.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (QDnY+)

387 Would Voyager stay recognizably part of the Federation after several years where they have to fight for resources, they can't replace their uniforms, and they have to stock up with crewmen using people who've never heard of the Federation?


That would have been better. Press gangs, raids, general Viking behavior.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (0fbbp)

388 383
Would Voyager stay recognizably part of the Federation after several years where they have to fight for resources, they can't replace their uniforms, and they have to stock up with crewmen using people who've never heard of the Federation?

---

Yup, lots of potential there that Ron Moore pointed out was totally ignored by the writers.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (Rk2Ph)

===========

By episode 3, they had wiped out every interesting bit of potential dramatic tension.

The Maquis were just part of the crew.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (iikV8)

389 335 cheapest I could find was $3.35/gallon - so excited (seriously)

Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (a0IVu)
........

That's a good deal, I paid $3.89 today.
Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (v0R5T)



I detect fellow Californians. Where are you guys?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (ujg0T)

390 Just for fun, someone should post Morgan Freeman's "HNIC" speech from "Lean on Me." It would be fun to see the SJWs turn on him.

Posted by: josephistan at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (Izzlo)

391 343 >>>262 I'm ok with not using the word, but that has to apply evenly to everyone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,

white people can say "cracker ass cracker" to each other and it will be understood as harmless or mostly harmless.

Would you say that blacks can freely call you "cracker ass cracker" and it's no big deal?

You seem to be deliberately ignoring the rule, which applies to everyone, that if someone uses a slur that applies to *himself* it's either considered a joke or harmless or a much, much lesser violation than if he uses slurs about other groups.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (PbpT7)

Honestly, being called a cracker by a black dude bothers me less than being called 'motherfucker'. The latter usually means I'm going to have to fight.

I'm asking for the rules to be enforced evenly or relaxed evenly. So I'm not overly up in arms over Walter Mosely being jostled.

As far as inter-racial interactions...courtesy goes far. It is REAL easy for black on white or black on hispanic or white on Asian, etc to escalate. It's easy to get people balkanized by skin color.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (bcbK8)

392 389 335 cheapest I could find was $3.35/gallon - so excited (seriously)

Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (a0IVu)
........

That's a good deal, I paid $3.89 today.
Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:35 PM (v0R5T)


I detect fellow Californians. Where are you guys?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (ujg0T)

I'm in So Cal - Ventura County

Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:44 PM (a0IVu)

393 387 Would Voyager stay recognizably part of the Federation after several years where they have to fight for resources, they can't replace their uniforms, and they have to stock up with crewmen using people who've never heard of the Federation?


That would have been better. Press gangs, raids, general Viking behavior.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (0fbbp)

==========

Small plug:

My short story collection: Mutiny! has a novella in it that's an alternate version of Voyager where B'elanna rebels and takes over the ship.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:44 PM (iikV8)

394 Sci fi as a genre of literature is a lot of philosophy wank. Which is
why Star Wars is frequently considered space fantasy or space opera.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (4i8PS)
---
I will note that my Man of Destiny series is closer to sci-fi than space fantasy.

It contains a certain level of tech that allows the plot of move forward, but the tech is never the focus of the action.

It merely provides the setting. A lot of sci-fi does that.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 09, 2019 04:44 PM (cfSRQ)

395 Star Wars has space wizards. Total fantasy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:39 PM (iikV

Midichlorians

Checkmate atheist.

Lots of sci fi hand waves stuff. Look at Dune. Space wizards my ass.
Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:41 PM (4i8PS)

Star Trek: science fiction. Star Wars: sword and sorcery fantasy set in a Sci-Fi universe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 04:44 PM (jEgzt)

396
The closest to scientifically accurate movie I can think of is 2001.


Andromeda Strain is the only 'hard science' SF movie that I can think of.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 09, 2019 04:44 PM (oVJmc)

397 I paid $2.44 this morning and I am still furious at that fat fvck Christie for raising the gas tax in NJ.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

____

$2.60-70 here. Don't complain

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:44 PM (FiUMj)

398 $2.93 today at Costco in a suburb of Seattle, still around $3.50 at the brand name gas stations.

It has dropped a quarter or more in the last month.

Posted by: Left Coast Dawg

$2.66 on my side of the state...bwaahaha

Posted by: Sock Monkey ...is it Monday, feels like a Monday at September 09, 2019 04:45 PM (GF84D)

399 There are exceptions within Star Trek, but the transporter? Pure
fantasy. Warp speed? Pure fantasy. Hell, in The Cage, they fly halfway
across the galaxy in no time.


Yeah, but it's like, set in the far future, man. That makes it all sciency and stuff.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 04:45 PM (HaL55)

400 I can't imagine anyone paying for that shit CBS streaming service.. especially just to watch this piece of crap!

An article says they have only 2.5 million subscribers - at $6.00 per month, they are grossing $18 million per month. I can't imagine you can develop and produce original content on that kind of budget.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 09, 2019 04:45 PM (so+oy)

401 many years ago , when I was a medical intern, I was accidentally locked in a padded room of the RE with a schizophrenic patient who was white. he wanted to kill me because I was a "friggin african american"
no he did not use those terms

Posted by: Avi at September 09, 2019 04:45 PM (kSq2k)

402 I hear that once Palin goes Ewok she'll never go back to the ItitiTodd trail...

Posted by: NeoOtter at September 09, 2019 04:45 PM (0x00j)

403 I once got fired when a female supervisor asked me where I went for lunch. I said a Tapas Bar ("small plates" in Spanish).
She heard "topless bar".
I hated that gig anyway...

Posted by: navybrat swimming upstream at September 09, 2019 04:45 PM (w7KSn)

404 My last comment and then I am done with this place:

white people can say "cracker ass cracker" to each other and it will be understood as harmless or mostly harmless.

Would you say that blacks can freely call you "cracker ass cracker" and it's no big deal?


Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:36 PM (PbpT7)


ROFLMAO! I knew you would try and make some bullshit claim like this. How many white people are "offended" by anyone calling them "crackers" or even the dreaded "cracker ass cracker"? I'd say about ... NONE. No one cares.

You are trying to pretend that whites are so offended by being called "crackers", for some odd reason, when you know it's totally untrue. Because your whole argument falls apart if whites aren't totally offended by some label. But the fact is that people who use the word "cracker" are offended that whites aren't really offended by their use of it (except for you, of course).

Your argument is a sad joke. But you had no option. You are arguing for some asinine rule and then trying to twist everything else to make your pathetic rule seem more reasonable.

I'm done. Don't worry, I'm not commenting any more, here.

But don't make up any more shit about me (as if you think you are reading my mind because you're just that bright ...) and we'll all be satisfied.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (RyY7c)

405 My kingdom for a big screen adaptation of Downbelow Station.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (0fbbp)

406 > Oh, and time crystals.


Time crystals are actually a thing now. They've even been made in the lab.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (cB5if)

407 They sell those wholesale now? And only $2.35? How many do you have to buy to get the wholesale price?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (cB5if)


$ 2.35 same as in town!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (BiNEL)

408 Chappelle got paid 20 million by Netflix to start that conversation.

Posted by: jennifer anniston's perky nipples at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (E67Aw)

409 Ouch! I paid $2.04/gal this morning - Central Ohio.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 09, 2019 04:42 PM (Y4EXg)

Christie agreed to raise the gas tax by a quarter/gallon, and lowered the sales tax by a little bit. But the current sleazy communist cocksucking gun-grabber governor is salivating at the chance to reraise the sales tax.


NJ is becoming even more insane...and that is a scary thought.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (wYseH)

410 The outside world is becoming similar to the prison world. The agitators are trying to force people to pick sides based on skin color,

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (YB89a)

411 I detect fellow Californians. Where are you guys?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (ujg0T)
........

I'm in Santa Cruz county.

Posted by: wth at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (v0R5T)

412 Wait a minute.

A movie studio told a black man that he couldn't say "n****r" out loud?

The rule is that black folks can say that word any time they want to, under any circumstances, and can call each other and anyone else that, even children and women and their bosses. With no negative repurcussions.

THAT'S THE RULE!!!!!

I feel like I am taking crazy pills, here!

Posted by: Sharkman at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (Mo1SD)

413
I detect fellow Californians. Where are you guys?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:43 PM (ujg0T)

I'm in So Cal - Ventura County
Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:44 PM (a0IVu)

-------------

Over the hill from you, in Kern County, where we have some of the highest gasoline prices in CA.

$3.35/gal? Luxury!

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (qC1Sy)

414 361 Then DS9 a couple of years ago. I got through two and half seasons. I basically hated everyone except Quark and Odo.

Later on in DS9 they admitted the Federation was a bunch of idealist hypocrites and set fire wholesale to Roddenberry's hippy-dippy politics. Also they started shooting a lot more. That's why it's the best Trek series.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (ZGrMX)

I've heard that. But I couldn't make it that far.
Every female character on that show made me wanna snarl.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (bcbK8)

415 My kingdom for a big screen adaptation of Downbelow Station.

Posted by: Grump928
>>Please!!!

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (i5RAz)

416 Chi Town, I think most of CBS AA has old content, like NCIS, Big Bang, etc. Not a ton of original content.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (Rk2Ph)

417 Dang, Star Trek space vikings with good writers exploring moral issues would be a great show.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (fsa/N)

418 Pick any racial or religious minority and members of that minority call each other the slur of that minority. Doesn't mean whites should call them that as well. It's common fucking sense people.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (FiUMj)

419 >>>Honestly, being called a cracker by a black dude bothers me less than being called 'motherfucker'. The latter usually means I'm going to have to fight.

I don't know if I believe you. All I can say is that I would not accept a racial disparagement like that without some escalation on my own part.

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (PbpT7)

420 Star Trek: science fiction. Star Wars: sword and sorcery fantasy set in a Sci-Fi universe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 04:44 PM (jEgzt)

Which I don't disagree with. But it's not based on how sciencey they are. Sci fi is all philosophical and shit. Fantasy has its own themes.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (4i8PS)

421 Gah. Work calls.

Have fun, be nice...but be ready not to be nice

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (bcbK8)

422 417 Dang, Star Trek space vikings with good writers exploring moral issues would be a great show.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (fsa/N)

==========

I know.

CBS shoulda hired me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (iikV8)

423 Later on in DS9 they admitted the Federation was a bunch of idealist
hypocrites and set fire wholesale to Roddenberry's hippy-dippy politics.
Also they started shooting a lot more. That's why it's the best Trek
series.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 09, 2019 04:40 PM (ZGrMX)

---
DS9 is arguably a rip-off of Babylon 5, which was in pre-production first.

It has some mystic parts, but also some nice "hard" sci-fi as in how the spacecraft operate.

Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (cfSRQ)

424 I think it was about 10 years ago that Charles Barkley commented that he uses the N word and would continue to use it. At about the same time, former Major League Baseball pitcher LaTroy Hawkins wrote in article stating that both blacks and whites should not use the word.

Posted by: mercenary13 at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (F1s01)

425 I'd laugh off being called a "cracker" even if it was seriously intended and even if it was said by a black person. That word just has no power. For a variety of reasons, n***er is different. It might be silly or wrongheaded that that's the case, but that's all water under the bridge at this point.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (ppBhU)

426 I was in a writers room trying to be creative while at the same time
being surveilled by unknown critics who would snitch on me to a
disembodied voice over the phone


"Fuck all y'all" is exactly the right response. He's a writer, for crying out loud. He's proposing a plot idea. But some low-achievement SJW filed a complaint against a best-selling novelist with a creative history that dwarfs the collective accomplishments of all the other people in the room.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (NVYyb)

427 So you're saying i've got a chance....?
Posted by: ace

I watched when Sarah started to stump for Trump. At one campaign gathering she was screechy and acting very strange at the podium. It was difficult to watch and the reaction from a normally friendly crowd was uncomfortable and people were just looking at each other like WTF? Soon after that she wasn't making any more pubic appearances for Trump IIRC. The attacks on her and her family had to take a big toll along with some of their kids failing off the rails.

Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (oiNtH)

428 The problem with a lot of slurs is that they only sting if they have some truth to them.

It isn't the word, or the insult, it is the image of the type of person the insulter is imagining.

Calling me a cracker is kind of meaningless since I have no idea what they mean. That is different with a lot of the words we can't say though. The person who is offended knows *exactly* what is meant, and he is offended because it cuts too close to home.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (LWu6U)

429 369 OT: Sorry to read that the Todd and Sarah Palin have filed for divorce. The left will have a field day with this and as usual, they will be their obnoxious nasty selves not caring about the kids in the family.
Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 04:41 PM (oiNtH)


Yes, in the next few days just watch the Leftie news, as well as the leftie gossip shows like The View, to validate and verify Cheri's comment.

It's like saying it will rain, when the skies are going from blue to gray, the wind is picking up quickly, and the temperature is dropping.

Yup, it is going to rain.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (sy5kK)

430 Later on in DS9 they admitted the Federation was a bunch of idealist
hypocrites and set fire wholesale to Roddenberry's hippy-dippy politics.
Also they started shooting a lot more. That's why it's the best Trek
series.

Posted by: Ian S
>>I quit when they got the super ship and started flying all over.

Posted by: FrodoB at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (i5RAz)

431
Over the hill from you, in Kern County, where we have some of the highest gasoline prices in CA.

$3.35/gal? Luxury!
Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (qC1Sy)

I was in Bakersfield a few times in June and was horrified at the prices.

Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (a0IVu)

432 I paid $2.44 this morning and I am still furious at that fat fvck Christie for raising the gas tax in NJ.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

____

$2.60-70 here. Don't complain
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:44 PM
***************
If the Dems win in 2020..... it's going to be like S10.00 a gallon.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (wiXsO)

433 There are exceptions within Star Trek, but the transporter? Pure fantasy. Warp speed? Pure fantasy. Hell, in The Cage, they fly halfway across the galaxy in no time.

.....
OK. Maybe on the rtansporter thing..

But warp is totes a real thing, man.

Zefram Cochrane proved it in 2061!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (so+oy)

434 Secretary Pompeo says the US has killed more than 1,000 Taliban just in the last 10 days.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (BqBId)

435 All I know is if someone uses a racial slur on me, I'll be offended.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (Rk2Ph)

436 Over the hill from you, in Kern County, where we have some of the highest gasoline prices in CA.

$3.35/gal? Luxury!
Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (qC1Sy)



I would wager that the SF Bay Area is worse, although Santa Clara County / San Jose seems a tad lower, oddly enough, as it is expensive in just about everything else.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (ujg0T)

437 Let's play a game: guess the Stasi fascist.

The snitch was a fat white woman.

I win the game.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (HmZuC)

438 Christie agreed to raise the gas tax by a quarter/gallon, and lowered the sales tax by a little bit. But the current sleazy communist cocksucking gun-grabber governor is salivating at the chance to reraise the sales tax.

___

Libs in WA have been pushing a state income tax, in exchange for lowering the sales tax to make it all revenue neutral. And I keep saying yeah that will last for about a year before they raise the sales tax back to where it was.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (FiUMj)

439 The biggest scientific flaw in just about all Sci-Fi is that most writers simply ignore relativity, because it's a big pain in the ass and it's counter-intuitive. Things happen in a way that doesn't make sense to us in terms of our own lives. Interstellar is one of the few films I can think of that tried to address this issue faithfully, but I think that made it too difficult a movie for most people to follow.

Star Wars never even attempt to explain FTL speeds - they just have magic "hyperspace" which is really just a word that means "shut up we're not going to talk about it."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (Kpl3J)

440 SW of Houston - $1.95 for regular at Bucees. Been less that $2 there since Labor Day. $3.42 for ethanol free 92 octane!

Everybody else around here is $2.09 to $2.29 for regular.

Posted by: DanMan at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (XTiHL)

441 Nothing like a good flounce. Here's hoping it's actually a permanent one. I hate flouncers that come back a week later and pretend nothing has happened.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (gAXii)

442 Time crystals are actually a thing now. They've even been made in the lab.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (cB5if)

"We will replace Brenda's Newsweek with new Time Crystals, and see if she notices."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (jEgzt)

443 nood palin

Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (a0IVu)

444 So in NJ, gas is expensive AND you have to have a trained person pump it for you?

Sigh.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (Rk2Ph)

445 The PR agent for the show defends it by noting:

It's worth noting that Discovery has a particularly inclusive
writers room that includes three African American scribes, two Asian
American writers, a Native American and Latinx woman, among others.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (NVYyb)

446 "I hadn't called anyone it. I just told a story about a cop who explained to me, on the streets of Los Angeles, that he stopped all n---ers in paddy neighborhoods and all paddies in n---er neighborhoods, because they were usually up to no good. I was telling a true story as I remembered it."

As long as he didn't use the two F slurs--you know which ones I mean. The one Chapelle can't use and the one Cuomo orders us not to.

(posting this knowing there must be 100 Fredo jokes ahead of mine!)

Posted by: LizLem at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (hvf9s)

447 Looks like I am late to a pretty good flame war, with both ace and The Primordial Ordered Pair flouncing off in a huff.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (Mo1SD)

448 The slur "cracker" doesn't come from the blandness of saltines like I originally thought.

It's what the guy with the whip was called. He was the "cracker". Which is pretty f'ed up and sad when you think of it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (xfb67)

449 >>I watched when Sarah started to stump for Trump. At one campaign gathering she was screechy and acting very strange at the podium. It was difficult to watch and the reaction from a normally friendly crowd was uncomfortable and people were just looking at each other like WTF?

I saw that. The reaction on Trump's face was pretty much WTF?

She was definitely not brining her A game.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (ZLI7S)

450 Chappelle always was edgy and, as far as I know, pretty reflective of 20 years ago before Cancel Culture took hold in that he wasn't demanding scalps for Wrong Speech. If Moseley has a similar history of not shutting down speech, i.e, isn't a hypocrite, this may become a thing the neo-Puritans can't stop. Here's hoping.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (RWvXE)

451 Quark wrote The Art of the Acquisition.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (H7t8/)

452 Interstellar is one of the few films I can think of that tried to address this issue faithfully, but I think that made it too difficult a movie for most people to follow.
____

I tried like hell to like that movie and couldn't because I kept saying, uhm no that is dumb, you would never do that in real life.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (FiUMj)

453 444 So in NJ, gas is expensive AND you have to have a trained person pump it for you?

Sigh.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (Rk2Ph)



So NJ has the Oregon make work law? OR gasoline would be way cheaper otherwise.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (ujg0T)

454 cheapest I could find was $3.35/gallon - so excited (seriously)

Posted by: IC at September 09, 2019 04:28 PM (a0IVu)

I found $3.30/gallon. I thought I was misreading the sign at first.

Posted by: Surfperch, longing to leave the Land of Fruits and Nuts at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (l1sdS)

455 The attacks on her and her family had to take a big toll along with some of their kids failing off the rails.
Posted by: Cheri at September 09, 2019 04:47 PM (oiNtH)

People change, and some people fall apart over time. She may have.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (Kpl3J)

456 >>>Secretary Pompeo says the US has killed more than 1,000 Taliban just in the last 10 days.


The real threat to our freedoms and way of life resides in places like Portland and Berkeley, not Kandahar.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (HmZuC)

457 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (RyY7c)

You're mad because someone called you on the ridiculous notion that the N word just means black?

I guess you can join CT who stopped commenting because he's mad that people thought he was being ridiculous.

I've got fairly thin skin but you guys are skinless.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 04:51 PM (YB89a)

458 Interstellar is one of the few films I can think of that tried to address this issue faithfully, but I think that made it too difficult a movie for most people to follow.

There's a really enjoyable physics book about the scientific issues in the movie. Enjoyable if trying to follow physics as an amateur is your idea of fun, that is. (Recommended.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2019 04:51 PM (ppBhU)

459 413


Over the hill from you, in Kern County, where we have some of the highest gasoline prices in CA.
howdy, neighbor! i'm in the rubble that's left of ridgecrest. i was happy to see that gas prices fell to $3.69 a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 09, 2019 04:51 PM (sGtp+)

460 And Kern County was at one time one of the top oil counties in Amerikkka.


CA voters are *so* lost and stupid they couldn't even reverse another gas tax last election. That's what, .12 of the current price? Anyway, that was just the new tax, there are plenty of others.


Imagine if, unlike the idiotic s**thole its voters have made it, CA had ..... more refineries [any built since the 6Os, since the population doubled?], more oil production [lots of unconventional potential, recall CA had some of the country's biggest formations], etc.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 09, 2019 04:52 PM (QDnY+)

461 Interstellar is one of the few films I can think of that tried to address this issue faithfully, but I think that made it too difficult a movie for most people to follow.


That's why I liked it. I thought they did a good job with a complex subject.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 04:52 PM (YB89a)

462
Star Wars never even attempt to explain FTL speeds - they just have magic "hyperspace" which is really just a word that means "shut up we're not going to talk about it."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (Kpl3J)

It's a relatively simple idea, they travel to and from another plane which interacts with gravity in normal space. The convenience of such a plane existing is a hand waving exercise.

Posted by: Someguy at September 09, 2019 04:52 PM (4i8PS)

463 just admit you want to say the word because you have a lot of people around you who need to know they're n****ers

Posted by: ace at September 09, 2019 04:16 PM (PbpT7)
=========================
So getting together and watching Blazing Saddles is out of the question?

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at September 09, 2019 04:52 PM (N0If5)

464 449
She was definitely not brining her A game.

not salty enough for you?

Posted by: Anachronda at September 09, 2019 04:52 PM (sGtp+)

465 NEMATODE IS A TERRIBLE WORD!

Posted by: Sponge Patrick Bob Tentacles at September 09, 2019 04:53 PM (0D+GD)

466 I tried like hell to like that movie and couldn't because I kept saying, uhm no that is dumb, you would never do that in real life.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:50 PM (FiUMj)

I have kind of the same feeling. I really tried to like it, too. In fact I'm still trying to talk myself into watching it a second time to see if some of the stuff would make more sense if I saw it repeated. But I haven't been able to talk myself into that yet.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:53 PM (Kpl3J)

467 As far as inter-racial interactions...courtesy goes far. It is REAL easy
for black on white or black on hispanic or white on Asian, etc to
escalate. It's easy to get people balkanized by skin color.


Just respect everyone else as fellow travelers in this life, neither above nor below you. As you would want to be treated.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 09, 2019 04:53 PM (HaL55)

468 DS9 had a wee bit of a slow start, but then got really good. Sisko turned out to be a bad ass. He would crush picard with his nutsack.

B5 on the other hand, all sci-fi wish they were that good. (well, except for maybe the last season)

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 04:53 PM (9Om/r)

469 Love SnowFall

Posted by: Gonzotx at September 09, 2019 04:54 PM (PT+W/)

470 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 09, 2019 04:46 PM (RyY7c)

You're mad because someone called you on the ridiculous notion that the N word just means black?

I guess you can join CT who stopped commenting because he's mad that people thought he was being ridiculous.

I've got fairly thin skin but you guys are skinless.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 09, 2019 04:51 PM (YB89a)
***************
Can't we all just get along?

Posted by: redridinghood at September 09, 2019 04:55 PM (wiXsO)

471 437 Let's play a game: guess the Stasi fascist.

The snitch was a fat white woman.

I win the game.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 09, 2019 04:48 PM (HmZuC)


Elizabeth Warren is fat????

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 04:57 PM (sy5kK)

472 B5 on the other hand, all sci-fi wish they were that good. (well, except for maybe the last season)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 04:53 PM (9Om/r)

that brings me back - the forum that first got me posting on the net, before anything else, was rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5

usenet, the good old days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2019 04:57 PM (Kpl3J)

473 B5 on the other hand, all sci-fi wish they were that good. (well, except for maybe the last season)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 09, 2019 04:53 PM (9Om/r)


B5 was good, but I hated Sheridan.

I still think President Clarke is actually a tragic figure.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 09, 2019 05:00 PM (wCmLp)

474 No bomb found in van with 1,000 gallons of gas in downtown Baltimore

parking garage precautionary sweeps continue - Baltimore Sun
--------------------------------I call BS. No way you're fitting or carrying 1,000 gallons of gas in the back of a van. Maybe 200 gallons.

Posted by: Jolo at September 09, 2019 05:00 PM (WrMOC)

475 I realky like Moseley's writing; I loved his "This is the Year You Write Your Novel," in which he wrote about his own writing process. Very humble man, IMO.

Many, many years ago, some jerks had a debate about whether he should be considered an African-American writer because his mother was Jewish. As I recall, he basically called himself an AMERICAN writer and left it at that.

Before this, I was unaware of his SF writing and will now be checking the library.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 09, 2019 05:01 PM (/+bwe)

476
Libs in WA have been pushing a state income tax, in exchange for lowering the sales tax to make it all revenue neutral. And I keep saying yeah that will last for about a year before they raise the sales tax back to where it was.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 09, 2019 04:49 PM (FiUMj)


Social Security tax started out at something like 2% for the top 10% of incomes, or similar to that.

Now it is 12.4% out of the worker's check, and another 12.4% squeezed from the employer.

I always mention that when some clown mentions a WA state income tax as a good idea.

And pause for a moment when delivering that news, it gives people time to register the thought and nod silently in agreement.

Of course, that only works around people that actually get pay stubs.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 09, 2019 05:01 PM (sy5kK)

477
Just wondering - what went wrong with them in RECENT years? I would have imagined the strain on them would have been when the Left media wolves were after them.
_______________

Their oldest son has had a lot of problems in the past few years. He physically attacked Todd, and was arrested a few times. Has drug problems, and PTSD, IIRC. That may have put a lot of strain on the Todd/Sarah marriage, especially if they didn't agree on how to address it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 09, 2019 05:02 PM (k4dH2)

478 "Mr. Moseley?"
"Yes?"
It has come to our attention at HR that you used the N-word repeatedly. Is that correct?"
"Yes--but in the historical context of the times."
"Sorry, Mr. Moseley. As a black writer, I'm afraid we're going to have to ask you to clean up your language."
"But that would mean white-washing the history of racism in America."
"Exactly, Mr. Mosely. As lily-white corporate Social Justice brown-nosers, we need you to help us cover up the racism of the past. Frankly, it is your duty as a black man."
"Why would you possibly want me to do that?"
"Because then we can pretend we are the real civil rights heroes, not this Martin Luther King-fellow. Our self-worth depends on it. I'm sure you understand."
"That's crazy! I quit!"
"You can't quit! You're fired, bigot! There's no place for white supremacists like you around here!"
"Kiss my black ass, junior!"
"That's sexual harassment, Mr. Moseley."
*click*

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 09, 2019 05:03 PM (Ndje9)

479 B5 was good, but I hated Sheridan.

I still think President Clarke is actually a tragic figure.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 09, 2019 05:00 PM (wCmLp)

On some show or other, the writer was talking about Lord of the Rings as a parallel to things he did on the show. For that reason, my coworker started calling it "Tolkien in Space" and showing all the ways B5 was just a futuristic LOTR. Not sure if that made me like it more, but my coworker left before the final season and the spin-off, both of which I hated.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 09, 2019 05:06 PM (/+bwe)

480 People like to say that the Queer Studies and Womym's Studies majors end up working as baristas. Nope. They end up in HR - deciding, first of all, if the people they are interviewing meet their diversity quotas and then acting as corporation police.

As a job hunter (who is particularly discouraged today, as I found out this afternoon another one I thought I had in the bag wasn't), I have grown to hate HR with the heat of 20,000 suns. I can't tell the number of times I've done my homework on the company, been well prepared for the phone interview only to been screened out by some vapid "Brittany" who knows next to nothing about the damn job, but has the power to keep you from an inperson interview.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V at September 09, 2019 05:20 PM (d6Ksn)

481 Joke is on you. The brothers were loving it for years but now it's coming round to bite them too.

Posted by: pawn at September 09, 2019 05:29 PM (+LeF+)

482 404.

Not only does Ace have a time machine, he also has a Cerebro!

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 09, 2019 05:32 PM (nWmg2)

483 As a job hunter (who is particularly discouraged today, as I found out this afternoon another one I thought I had in the bag wasn't), I have grown to hate HR with the heat of 20,000 suns. I can't tell the number of times I've done my homework on the company, been well prepared for the phone interview only to been screened out by some vapid "Brittany" who knows next to nothing about the damn job, but has the power to keep you from an inperson interview.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V at September 09, 2019 05:20 PM

I'm sorry to hear that. I had a job interview a few years ago in which the person leaving was part of the interview process. Hilarity ensued when he asked such specific questions about their unique processes and I must have gotten a WTF look after an obvious insider question. I later found out that I drove three hours (one way) to the interview when the man had handpicked his successor, but HR insisted on a " wider pool."

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 09, 2019 05:37 PM (/+bwe)

484 tablet sign in from the future

Posted by: andycanuck at September 09, 2019 05:38 PM (Dh1wo)

485 Sorry, but I can't buy any "broader message" from the Mosley story. And this isn't a slam on Mosley himself. I've read everything he's written, loved most of it, and don't have any knowledge of his politics.

But if Dem's (again, not implicating Mosley here) say they want to "start a real conversation" about cancel culture, it's just early run-to-the-middle election-year bullshit.


All Dem speech is strategic, always. Truth or falsity plays no part in what is said, except to the extent that truth might be slightly more convenient in a given situation.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at September 09, 2019 05:39 PM (XuBZu)

486 481 Joke is on you. The brothers were loving it for years but now it's coming round to bite them too.
Posted by: pawn at September 09, 2019 05:29 PM (+LeF+)

Only if "loving it" means pointing and laughing at the idiotic white people doing white people things.

That's a bit different than being bought-in to it all previously.

Not that there aren't professionals like Congresswoman Pressley and her demand that people only be allowed to speak if they're going to speak with their "brown voice" or "queer voice" or whatever.

And wokies are always most vulnerability to the wokie tendency to eat their own, and they do and they will, sooner or later.

But I've thought before (as in, not just now) that the "brothers" were doing their own thing and ignoring all the stupid uptight stuff other people were up to, particularly the male-shaming and feminizing of men for decades now.

Posted by: Synova at September 09, 2019 05:48 PM (BD/yx)

487 There are no bad ideas in a brainstorming session, as they say.
Laughable, at least.
I was in a brainstorming session for determining why certain production costs were going up. I threw out the suggestion "fraud on the part of the contractor." During the ensuing 10-minute lecture on how could I be so stupid in floating an idea like that, I wondered (a) was I still going to have a job after this? and (b) did I hit too close to home for someone?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 09, 2019 05:53 PM (/2X2F)

488 ... except to the extent that truth might be slightly more convenient in a given situation.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch
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I struggle to recall an unbiased 'truth' ever presented by a Left/Prog/Lib/Dem.

Wait, wait...Zell Miller (D), addressing the Republican Convention:


" ...our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrat's manic obsession to bring down our Commander in Chief.

What has happened to the party I've spent my life working in?

I can remember when Democrats believed that it was the duty of America to fight for freedom over tyranny"


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 09, 2019 06:04 PM (hnyqs)

489 Watch the video of Ezra Lavant being grilled in deposition about the "tone" of his jokes by a pasty bint from the "Canadian Human Rights Commission" and you can glimpse the horror of a possible future.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 09, 2019 06:25 PM (koNhm)

490 Moseley's novels aren't my bag of chips - I think "The Devil in a Blue Dress" is one of those rare instances where the movie is better than the book - but nobody, absolutely nobody, should ever receive the Star Chamber treatment for simply relating something that was said to him.

Posted by: Brown Line at September 09, 2019 06:41 PM (S6ArX)

491 Hey did you guys know thrr was an Easy Rawlins movie? I think it was called Devil in a Blue Dress and Denzel Washington is in it...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 09, 2019 07:04 PM (G/6B6)

492 OMG, love this blog ten times more now. This article by Mosely was epic.

Posted by: jocon307 at September 09, 2019 08:26 PM (HYa+m)

493 Let me get this straight... you can put the word in a script, but you can't say it?

What do you think happens when you write a word into a script? Don't you suppose it might result in someone, you know, saying the word? Because it's his job?

Writing a word into a script ultimately is saying it; you're just using someone else's mouth.

What dummy thought up this rule?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 09, 2019 08:41 PM (H3MF8)

494 Its time for our Emanuel Goldstein minute folks. Long live the Revolution!

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at September 09, 2019 09:12 PM (nRj4F)

495 Incidentally, I'm of the opinion that everyone should be allowed to use every word.

Now, with the particular word under discussion here, using it in certain ways can constitute "fighting words", and getting a pop in the mush for that is just a risk you take.

I wouldn't recommend calling anyone this word, especially in an angry tone, but I'm okay with writing the word into a story or script as character dialogue, or quoting someone who said it, or saying it while discussing the word itself.

And if you really feel the need to assign privilege points and decide that only certain people are allowed to say it in any context, well, I'm pretty Walter Mosley, of all people, is entitled to use the word however he wants. He grew up not just black, but also of mixed race, in one of the most actually racist metro areas of the country (Los Angeles), in a time when the word "miscegenation" was still in common use.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 09, 2019 10:02 PM (H3MF8)

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