Days After GamerGate Figure Zoe Quinn Accuses Former Boyfriend of Vague Sexual Abuse, and Days After He's Fired from His Job and Ostracized from His Industry, Man Kills Himself

"#CancelCulture" goes to where it always wanted to go: to "cancelling" people's actual lives.

Now, no one's truly responsible for another person's decision to commit suicide.

But... what did you think would happen here, Zoe? You dated the guy. You knew he was mentally unwell and had battled depression and mood disorders his whole life.


The game that made this guy's reputation was "Night in the Woods," which was about... a main character with deep mental health issues.

Being mentally unwell was kind of his brand.

What did you imagine he would do after you turned the industry from which he derived his livelihood and purpose against him?

This story is from Russia Today -- sorry to link them, but for reasons that are pretty obvious, the leftist American media refuses to cover this story.


The unraveling of Alec Holowka’'slife in the days after facing unproven accusations should remind us why, at some point, civilized society turned away from mob rule and embraced due process.

Not only is your social media feed becoming a live broadcast of an execution of the lost and the vulnerable, but the people handed the axe and hood may be no saner than the ones they are beheading.

Let's leave for the moment --and we will return here-- whether the claims against Holowka are likely to be true, any other circumstantial evidence, or the credibility of his accuser Zoe Quinn, one of the most high-profile activists on the internet.

Instead, let's chart the fatal sequence that perfectly shows how NOT to handle any sexual abuse allegations, including entirely plausible ones.


From cult hero to dead in five days

August 26: Zoe Quinn, the feminist game developer whose conduct had sparked Gamergate, the five-year ideological war between online communities, accuses Holowka, the indie co-author of cult hit Night in the Woods, of mistreatment, via a lengthy Twitter post.

Quinn somewhat insidiously blurs the line between routine poor relationship behavior and bona fide criminal acts, between literal descriptions and metaphors. Although Quinn has since deleted her post and her entire Twitter account, the full text has been preserved.

The gist is that Quinn, already "vulnerable" after another assault in Toronto, was bought a one-way ticket to Winnipeg after "flirting" with Holowka, and began a relationship with him.

In the month that she stayed, he had "physically confined" her to his apartment, "slowly isolated" her from other people in her life, and "degraded" her while they were alone, while "acting normal" in public.

Note the resort to very vague accusations which are meant to be read in a variety of ways, while hyping up the emotive, non-factual language.

Does "physically confined" mean that he kidnapped her? That's what she seems to want you to take away from this -- but she admits later he "acted normal" in public, suggesting that this wasn't an actual kidnapping, but that she merely felt "confined."

The word "isolated" is similar -- was she imprisoned, or did he just discourage her from going out to meet other people? The latter is a sign of a jealous and controlling nature -- but being a bad boyfriend is not the same as false imprisonment.

The language used -- deliberately, I would say; calculatedly -- puts the idea of actual physical kidnapping in the minds of the hysterics of the SJW movement while not quite committing her to that claim.

Now we get to actual specific factual allegations of bad behavior -- though some of this sounds absurd:

Holowka would "throw things" and "jam his fingers inside me and walk me around the house by them when I told him it hurt" as well as telling her that the earlier assault was her own fault during "mean and violent" sex.

Zoe Quinn is not a small girl. He weight fluctuates, and she gets pretty heavy at times.

I don't know what this "walk[ed] me around the house" means. It can't be fully literal. And it could be a single incident of a guy doing something he thought would be taken as either sexy or silly, but which was taken badly.

The language again is vague.

By the way, part of the reason for doubting the "confined" and "isolated" language is that she also whines that the pair agreed that she would buy her ticket to Toronto, but that he would by her ticket back to wherever she lived. She complains he did not buy her that return ticket.

So is she just saying that her "isolation" and "confinement" was over a ticket the guy wouldn't pay for, and which couldn't cost more than $250 or $300?

She got a friend to pay for the flight back. "Confinement" over!

After her friend paid for a flight back to Toronto, she broke up with Holowka by email, at which point he "lashed out" and complained to other developers in the community that she was a "b***h," thus "ruining" her career in the Canadian games industry.

Oh, he trash-talked her to people.

Good thing Zoe Quinn is so firm on the principle that one must not spread vicious stories about people, to ruin their reputations and make them unemployable!

Now, if Quinn feels that she was the victim of sexual assault or other forms of abuse recognized under existing law, she would have done well to go to the police. She alleged in her posts that other people had confirmed her stories ("That's Alec, what can you do," she was apparently told) so surely within the current climate and with her prominence she and other victims would have been listened to.

For someone whose stock-in-trade is the claim of misogyny, and who has graphically detailed other similar instances from her life, it is somewhat unfortunate that Quinn was apparently too "scared" in this particular case to even mention it for "the best part of a decade" since it allegedly occurred.

If, however, Quinn thinks this was insufficient to go to the cops about, what purpose does her airing on Twitter of these vague grievances serve?

Quinn has received tens of thousands of retweets and likes, and positive media coverage, but, she has headlined entire conferences on cyber bullying and complained of dozens of death threats -- she would have known that those voices would be turned against the accused. In fact, she mentions that Holowka had already said he’d kill himself over her behavior during their relationship and that "Alec is likely not well and I always believe in rehabilitation over punishment." Does disgracing a troubled person in front of millions constitute "rehabilitation over punishment"? Was Twitter ten years after the fact the most productive way?


August 28: The colleagues with whom Holowka developed his last hit game "cut ties" with him and cancel his current project after some "agonizing consideration."

A lengthy Reddit post from his Night in the Woods coworkers emphasizes that the team is "heartbroken" but sheds little specific light. "Enough of the allegations are extremely plausible," writes Scott Benson, adding that "the things that Alec did during the bad times were worse than we knew."

Note that this, too, is written to suggest that he heard of similar behavior -- even though his words make clear that he had not heard of similar behavior. "The things Alec did during the bad times were worse than we knew" -- so this guy did not know about these "worse" things until Zoe Quinn spazzed it out all over Twitter.

On what basis, then, does he claim these are "extremely plausible"? Apparently only on Alec's not-similar but still erratic past history, and the Gold Standard word of Zoe Quinn.

"We aren't trying to prove a point or appease a mob or show we're great," he reassures, adding that he is "depressed."

Yes you were. Zoe Quinn, for some reason, has been made some kind of High Empress of Twitter and Deplatforming and when she says someone needs to be #Cancelled, all cowards and soybois will snap to.

Thus, we are none the wiser as to whether they have verified the accusations. Nor if they are aware if their actions will contribute to him being viewed as guilty.

But they have washed their hands of him.

August 31: Alec Holowka commits suicide.

"Alec was a victim of abuse and he also spent a lifetime battling mood and personality disorders," writes his sister Eileen Mary, but "became a new person... working towards rehabilitation and a better life."

In her words, Alec "wished the best for Zoe."

Read the rest of the article -- It proposes a "Call for Sanity," suggesting rules (social rules, prudential rules) about how to responsibly make charges on Twitter, or better yet, not make them on Twitter and instead turn to dispassionate authorities to offer a ruling before setting the mob on someone.

I wasn't going to post on this for several reasons.

First, I'm not sure it's fair to lay someone's suicide at the feet of someone else, even if, as in this case, it sure looks like Zoe Quinn and this Scott Benson knew of this guy's shaky psychiatric history.

Is it fair to blame someone for someone's suicide? Usually not. How about if they know, or should have known, the person had suicidal thoughts and decided to trigger that suicidal ideation anyway?

It's a gray area. But gray areas are not good areas to play in.

Second, Zoe Quinn really is the High Empress of SJW Punishnment Battalions and I'm quite sure that anyone discussing this will be doxxed in short order, as was the case during GamerGate.

The White Knights and Tumbrinas are very protective of their Damaged Queen.

But I decided to post this after listening to Ethan Van Sciver describe how he himself considered the Suicide Option after being subject to mass attacks by the SJWs, and how friends of him, similarly targeted, often confess to have shared in the same thoughts of suicide being a possible solution.

Van Sciver was attacked because he was an open Republican and Trump supporter -- SJWs dug up an artist's sketchbook he did a few years ago, called "My Struggle" -- a wink at "Mein Kampf" -- because the character featured on the cover, which he himself had reinvented, was Sinestro -- which Van Sciver had rescued from the "too childish and silly" pile to make a dangerous and compelling villain. He turned Sinestro into Space Hitler -- thus the "My Struggle" joke.

By the way: Space Hitler was not the hero of Van Sciver's Green Lantern books. He was the villain. He did not hold Space Hitler up as someone to emulate, but someone to defeat.


The SJWs ignored that a follow-up book, "MANIFESTO," had a cover suggesting it was full-on Soviet propaganda. Obviously, being a normie Republican, he was not a fan of Soviet economics or Soviet propaganda, but the SJWs just pretended this book didn't exist in order to make the claim that he was a Secret Nazi seem more plausible.

And so he was hounded out of DC comics, where he had worked for years as a top-of-the-foodchain apex artist.

He starts talking about his own thoughts about killing himself here. And the confessions of those similarly targeted.

He talks about it for about six minutes. Definitely worth your time.

I'd like to start asking all the #Cancel Culture activists: What do you think is going to happen when you isolate someone and turn the whole world against them, and make them unemployable?

What is your goal, if not to drive them either to suicide or two steps away from suicide?

Stop pretending "you had no idea."

You had every idea. This was your main idea.

Oh by the way: Of course Marvel comics just hired Zoe Quinn to write some SJW book for them.

She has no real experience in comics, or really, in any creative endeavor at all. She fundraised for a game she never finished, and she came to "fame," of a sort, for "Depression Quest," a non-game which pretended to be a game, which was really just a Choose Your Own Adventure text about depression and, as it turns out, suicidal thoughts.

Her only previous experience in comics came when DC Comics' super-SJW editor of the Vertigo line hired her, for no apparent reason other than her SJW Twitter cache, to write a nonsensical Grrl Power Fantasy title. That title was cancelled for low sales and did not, I think, result in a completed story.

But of course, based on that track record, Marvel Comics had to scoop this Hot Property up.

Gravedancers Union: Dataracer rounded up some tweets from Zoe Quinn's fans, celebrating her taking of the Ultimate Scalp.

Driving a Man to Suicide Achievement -- Unlocked.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:13 PM




Comments

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1 Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 05, 2019 02:14 PM (7ukju)

2 Wow

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 05, 2019 02:16 PM (7ukju)

3 Roomy

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 05, 2019 02:16 PM (7ukju)

4 Chances of this guy being a soy boy 100%.
1. Possibly saw Zoe Quinn naked. (that would turn even a real man at best soy boy if not out and out gay)

2. Proud feminist.

3. Knows all the bathhouses in Chicongo.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 05, 2019 02:16 PM (pw+jk)

5

RT, Russia Today is a more legit "news" source than New York Times, Washington comPost, USA Today, etc.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 05, 2019 02:17 PM (0BDV9)

6 Sad. Not everyone is strong enough to realize how their life matters.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 05, 2019 02:17 PM (vEIlU)

7 Hi Mr. Aspirin Factory. What's up?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 05, 2019 02:17 PM (pw+jk)

8 Working hard, Jukin.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 05, 2019 02:18 PM (7ukju)

9
btw, has JEFF B tweeted anything really stupid, lately?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 05, 2019 02:18 PM (0BDV9)

10 I don't think the Culture of Death will see any problem with any of this.

Posted by: t-bird at September 05, 2019 02:18 PM (cfSLd)

11 will this Quinn person get charged? some other social media chick got charged for a suicide (and convicted as I recall).

Posted by: henry at September 05, 2019 02:18 PM (JMDly)

12 RT, Russia Today is a more legit "news" source than New York Times, Washington comPost, USA Today, etc.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 05, 2019 02:17 PM (0BDV9)

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The old Sovs wish they had the public as bamboozled as our current Lying Media has.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 05, 2019 02:18 PM (pw+jk)

13 I think I prefer the term #ErasureCulture.

Posted by: ShainS -- unemployed single-round magazine salesman at September 05, 2019 02:18 PM (Kag2G)

14 As long as Zoe feels safe and affirmed its all good.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 05, 2019 02:19 PM (2LelM)

15 Having Zoe Quinn as a GF would drive anyone to suicide.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 05, 2019 02:20 PM (Kpl3J)

16 Why should I give two fucks about either of these people...?

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at September 05, 2019 02:20 PM (IBt/r)

17 It's hard to feel sorry for a grown man who decides to date Zoe Quinn.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 05, 2019 02:20 PM (iys0/)

18

Sounded like a retarded relationship and they should have broken up a long time ago.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 05, 2019 02:20 PM (vEIlU)

19 From RT...."should remind us why, at some point, civilized society turned away from mob rule and embraced due process."

Striking. From RT, no less.

Posted by: golfman at September 05, 2019 02:21 PM (OE84+)

20 It's what they want and they openly admit it. If you were to say something similar about them, you'd be banned.

Posted by: notsothoreau at September 05, 2019 02:21 PM (JKNZq)

21 Quinn is despicable.

Pretty sure she has people on her speed dial (if not payroll) to attack whomever she's told them to attack online. It keeps happening.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 02:21 PM (bDqIh)

22 Now, no one's truly responsible for another person's decision to commit suicide.

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*Jeffrey Epstein intensifies*

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 05, 2019 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

23 Zoe doesn't seem all that stable. Love among the Crazies is the Most Dysfunctional of All.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 05, 2019 02:22 PM (2LelM)

24 Ace the quartering on YouTube covered this. Maybe he's got some kinks that aren't Russia Today talking about his grifter. Btw she has a patreon page for a game she's making. She hasn't provided any updates for over a year. Oh but right after this happened she went and hid how much she was making from Patreon monthly.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 05, 2019 02:22 PM (P6Qhd)

25 The Twitter mobs think that the mob will never turn on them.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 05, 2019 02:22 PM (hLRSq)

26 This Quinn character is a peach.

Also, the writing from the Russia Today article is actually pretty good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 02:22 PM (ycWCI)

27 Zoe Quinn - Death Pussy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 05, 2019 02:23 PM (2LelM)

28 Imagine if Leif Olson had a history of major depression and suicidal ideation. Imagine if Nicholas Sandmann had a history of major depression and suicidal ideation.

Posted by: Hands at September 05, 2019 02:23 PM (786Ro)

29 19 From RT...."should remind us why, at some point, civilized society turned away from mob rule and embraced due process."

Striking. From RT, no less.
Posted by: golfman at September 05, 2019 02:21 PM (OE84+)


RT is actually more sensible by and large than the NYT.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2019 02:23 PM (FNsjY)

30 I wasn't going to post on this for several reasons.

First, I'm not sure it's fair to lay someone's suicide at the feet of someone else, even if, as in this case, it sure looks like Zoe Quinn and this Scott Benson knew of this guy's shaky psychiatric history.

Is it fair to blame someone for someone's suicide? Usually not. How about if they know, or should have known, the person had suicidal thoughts and decided to trigger that suicidal ideation anyway?

It's a gray area. But gray areas are not good areas to play in.


Suicidal ideation is a funny thing. I'm not going to pretend to understand this guy's exact mental state but I know about suicidal ideation in a general way. Really, if you're subject to depression and social isolation in general, it's easy enough to convince yourself that suicide is a perfectly valid way out of ridicule and ostracism.

As to what Zoe's responsibility in this is...IANAL. Morally speaking, public shaming of this sort is abhorrent even for those who are not subject to suicidal tendencies. I understand that there are valid arguments that she bears no responsibility for this suicide, but emotionally it makes me want to contemplate things I shouldn't share. Oh, and fuck suicide.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 05, 2019 02:24 PM (RD7QR)

31 That raping sexual predator didn't even put the toilet seat down!!!!

Off with his head.

Posted by: Zoe Quimm at September 05, 2019 02:24 PM (pw+jk)

32 Stepping back, can we just establish that Zoe Quinn has really bad judgement when it comes to the men she beds?

This wench was the reason Gamergate started. She was having sex with gamer journalists in exchange for good reviews of her work. Then her boyfriend found out and outed her and the complicit gamer journalists.

Yet again and again she claims to be the victim. Amazing how often one (professional victim loudmouth feminist) woman keeps getting victimized, huh?

She is not a good person, and I wish men would stay away from her for their own health and safety.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 02:25 PM (bDqIh)

33 >>>4 Ace the quartering on YouTube covered this. Maybe he's got some kinks that aren't Russia Today talking about his grifter. Btw she has a patreon page for a game she's making. She hasn't provided any updates for over a year. Oh but right after this happened she went and hid how much she was making from Patreon monthly.

i watched that, actually. His theory that she hid her patreon to hide the fact that her SJWs were donating MORE to her now, in honor of having collected an Ultimate Scalp, is plausible, though of course I can't say that's true.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:25 PM (PbpT7)

34 AFAIK The guy had a history of doing some worse shit in other relationships, the ZQ shit was just her seeking another 15 minutes of fame and another scalp to claim.
Fucking awful though that the guy felt the need to kill himself. And fuck his friends/coworker who knew about it and only now decided to cut him out, especially after saying that "He had improved from where he had been". If somebody's changed, you don't fucking knife them in the back like that based on past actions (unless it was something really heinous, obviously). From what I've read elsewhere, the guy had a history but was trying/had improved.

Cancel culture is the worst fucking thing.

Posted by: Gaff at September 05, 2019 02:25 PM (jPS2y)

35 25 The Twitter mobs think that the mob will never turn on them.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 05, 2019 02:22 PM (hLRSq)


Again, on reading "The Great Terror," that is exactly what happened to NKVD agents and other denouncing people: they were in their turn denounced, arrested, tortured, and then shot. Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2019 02:25 PM (FNsjY)

36 Pretty obvious they want us all dead.

This will not likely end they way they hope and think it will. And when ends that way, I for one will give precisely zero shits over their what I expect will be horrific demise.

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 02:25 PM (77WPm)

37 Don't stick your dick in crazy.

Posted by: Jean at September 05, 2019 02:26 PM (lpEE6)

38 First, I'm not sure it's fair to lay someone's suicide at the feet of someone else, even if, as in this case, it sure looks like Zoe Quinn and this Scott Benson knew of this guy's shaky psychiatric history.

Is it fair to blame someone for someone's suicide? Usually not. How about if they know, or should have known, the person had suicidal thoughts and decided to trigger that suicidal ideation anyway?



Wasn't there some chick that was just arrested for telling her boyfriend to off himself?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 05, 2019 02:26 PM (ctGui)

39 PS: in one department in Moscow they stopped putting name plates on the door, because they were changing them so often.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 05, 2019 02:26 PM (FNsjY)

40 its a communists dream to have dissidents kill themselves. Saves a bullet, not to mention space in the mass grave/gulag.

Posted by: simplemind at September 05, 2019 02:26 PM (C6xeQ)

41 I recall reading the book Life and Death in Shanghai - throughoit the book one of the main themes is public shaming and denouncements by red guard activists followed by suicides of the denounced victim. I kinda thought it a feature of Chinese 'face' tradition.

And now its happening here in America. In 2019

Posted by: 13times at September 05, 2019 02:26 PM (1K8Aa)

42 >>>Wasn't there some chick that was just arrested for telling her boyfriend to off himself?


yeah but that was active, overt pressure to kill himself. Not just being such an asshole that he considered it as an option.

And I don't think anyone can be held responsible for anyone else's suicide. I think that case was an example of Hard Cases Make Bad Law.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:27 PM (PbpT7)

43 Hey, i just wanted to shame him destroy his life, the suicide was a bonus.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 05, 2019 02:27 PM (O5bec)

44 Zoe Quinn is one of the most toxic people alive. A bully and manipulator hiding behind false victim narratives.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 02:27 PM (3aU1i)

45 41 I recall reading the book Life and Death in Shanghai - throughoit the book one of the main themes is public shaming and denouncements by red guard activists followed by suicides of the denounced victim. I kinda thought it a feature of Chinese 'face' tradition.

And now its happening here in America. In 2019
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Fetynal will make this go away. Your friends in China.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 05, 2019 02:28 PM (2LelM)

46 I had no idea that acid injected into the veins would cause harm.

Posted by: Josef Mengele at September 05, 2019 02:29 PM (XT36w)

47 5

RT, Russia Today is a more legit "news" source than New York Times, Washington comPost, USA Today, etc.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 05, 2019 02:17 PM (0BDV9)


Yep, it sure is. You know where they stand. They tend to give a Russian government approved version of a story, instead of the preposterous notion of being impartial and unbiased.

Posted by: rickl at September 05, 2019 02:29 PM (xjiRE)

48 44 Zoe Quinn is one of the most toxic people alive. A bully and manipulator hiding behind false victim narratives.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 02:27 PM (3aU1i)

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She sounds like a great reason to not be on Twitter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 05, 2019 02:29 PM (k8SgU)

49 "Zoe" von Valkenburg is indeed not small. she has appeared on panels with Anita The Liar. I would estimate 5'9, slightly taller than me.

a depressed soy boy might be able to overpower her but it would take effort, and the sort of person attracted to her would be more likely intimidated by her than the reverse.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2019 02:29 PM (V2mvo)

50 Death is preferable to Zoe Quinn.

So says the word on the street.

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at September 05, 2019 02:30 PM (6eaLO)

51 Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian are complete pieces of shit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 02:30 PM (fUqBx)

52 Zoe Quinn is a monstrous person and I honestly wish death or worse on "her."

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at September 05, 2019 02:30 PM (NWY1X)

53 Yeah #CancelCulture has a body count. For real. From exactly the same people who shriek in terror and accuse people of hounding "the other" into suicide.

THIS is the kind of thing I can understand a social media site banning and trying to prevent. Using their platform to attack and harm people for real not "ooh you offend me, help I'm being oppressed because you disagree with me!" but the doxxing and the attempts to get people fired and destroyed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:30 PM (KZzsI)

54 >>>51 Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian are complete pieces of shit.


I notice that both resorted to the same old tricks as their Patreons started getting thin.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:30 PM (PbpT7)

55 These creatures are subhuman monsters.

Posted by: kallisto at September 05, 2019 02:31 PM (rpZ5G)

56 This story is from Russia Today
[ace]

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This should be good for at least a citation in the next bombshell dossier! /s

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 02:31 PM (5NMZN)

57 I certainly feel bad for Alec Holowka - suicide is always tragic. Always.

If there's any positive to come of this, hopefully this is a stark reminder to those willing to consider dating the likes of a scrunt like Zoe Quinn of Guys' Rule Number One.

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 02:31 PM (77WPm)

58 51 Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian are complete pieces of shit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 02:30 PM (fUqBx

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I say we give them gatekeeper power over one of the key public platforms in American discourse and then treat that platform as the unbiased thing it is. Who's with me?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 05, 2019 02:31 PM (k8SgU)

59 ... and "jam his fingers inside me and walk me around the house by them when I told him it hurt" ...

_________


Wait, so he literally grabbed her by the mish and carried her around like a bowling ball?

Posted by: ShainS -- founder of Trump's next PAC "Conservatives for Biden" at September 05, 2019 02:31 PM (Kag2G)

60 Memory serves me right the cancerous elements of GamerGate was what also turned Candace Owens hard right.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at September 05, 2019 02:32 PM (+dsLj)

61 atched that, actually. His theory that she hid her patreon to hide the fact that her SJWs were donating MORE to her now, in honor of having collected an Ultimate Scalp, is plausible, though of course I can't say that's true.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:25 PM (PbpT7)


One of the previous video he did lends more credibility. After the guy committed suicide and Quinn went Twitter silent some SJW on Twitter was urging people to go support her on Patreon to let her know that they are on her side.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 05, 2019 02:32 PM (P6Qhd)

62 Ace, do check out the Medium article Holowka's former partner on the video game posted. It's a long, dense screed of blaming Alec for basically everything (he's since edited it, but one of the things he apparently found intolerable was "seven hour workdays"). They're gravedancing in Zoe's circle on Twitter, and they have no idea how bad they look. Because no one will hold them accountable.

https://medium.com/@bombsfall/alec-2618dc1e23e

Posted by: Paolo del Toro at September 05, 2019 02:32 PM (pPQeR)

63 54 >>>51 Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian are complete pieces of shit.


I notice that both resorted to the same old tricks as their Patreons started getting thin.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:30 PM (PbpT7

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I think I can guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 05, 2019 02:32 PM (k8SgU)

64 She is not a good person, and I wish men would stay away from her for their own health and safety.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 02:25 PM (bDqIh)


Self-preservation would call for that, but it seems that such commonsense isn't prevalent in that industry and community.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 05, 2019 02:33 PM (hLRSq)

65 I recall reading the book Life and Death in Shanghai - throughoit the book one of the main themes is public shaming and denouncements by red guard activists followed by suicides of the denounced victim. I kinda thought it a feature of Chinese 'face' tradition.

And now its happening here in America. In 2019
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Ding Ding Ding

We are in the middle of a cultural revolution. Its not subsidized government program, its being supported by the private sector baby!! Even more efficient that the commies could possibly imagine.

Cut off your dicks or we'll make you wish you had!

Posted by: This actually isn't a joke at September 05, 2019 02:33 PM (pQCUU)

66 Wait, so he literally grabbed her by the mish and carried her around like a bowling ball?----
When you are famous they let you do that.

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 02:33 PM (5NMZN)

67 Now I'm not gonna figure that anyone who'd date Quinn is mentally stable to begin with. This is someone who is already pretty much a wreck. But this kind of thing is still wrong and I think most of the world looks at it with at best dislike and mostly with fury and disgust.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:33 PM (KZzsI)

68 >>As to what Zoe's responsibility in this is...IANAL. Morally speaking, public shaming of this sort is abhorrent even for those who are not subject to suicidal tendencies. I understand that there are valid arguments that she bears no responsibility for this suicide, but emotionally it makes me want to contemplate things I shouldn't share. Oh, and fuck suicide.


Back when Gamergate was still raging, there were stories and (IIRC) some decent evident that Zoe Quinn had people who would harass her online at her request to beef up her credibility as a victim of online harassment by gamers.

There's also the story that Candace Owens told Joe Rogan about when she announced a new website tp "out the online billies - not literally, but it was misinterpreted - that she received a call out of the blue from Quinn. Quinn told her she would ruin everything, and if she didn't scrap the site she would be doxed and harassed online. Owens refused (she thought Quinn was a fraud), and then Owens was immediately harassed online, doxed, her family doxed and harassed as well. Owens says she's 100% certain the people were harassing her at Quinn's prompting.

Blame her for the suicide? I don't know, but I think she can likely be blamed for the events that led to the suicide - the online harassment, firing, destruction of his reputation, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 02:33 PM (bDqIh)

69 We are in the middle of a cultural revolution. Its not subsidized
government program, its being supported by the private sector baby!!

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They will import the rope from China to hang you with.

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 02:34 PM (5NMZN)

70 I added this:

Oh by the way: Of course Marvel comics just hired Zoe Quinn to write some SJW book for them.

She has no real experience in comics, or really, in any creative endeavor at all. She fundraised for a game she never finished, and she came to "fame," of a sort, for "Depression Quest," a non-game which pretended to be a game, which was really just a Choose Your Own Adventure text about depression and, as it turns out, suicidal thoughts.

Her only previous experience in comics came when DC Comics' super-SJW editor of the Vertigo line hired her, for no apparent reason other than her SJW Twitter cache, to write a nonsensical Grrl Power Fantasy title. That title was cancelled for low sales and did not, I think, result in a completed story.

But of course, based on that track record, Marvel Comics had to scoop this Hot Property up.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:34 PM (PbpT7)

71 Nothing like being accused by a female of things you did not do .going through this shit right now but on a minor scale. Accused of showing video of me and the accuser having sex to guys at the gym back in March of this year. Fast forward to a week ago, the accuser has a new boyfriend who took over the cafe at the gym/athletic club. Guy tried white-knighting for her. Didn't go as he had planned. I complained to gym manager. Gym manager told him not to speak to or go near me. Few days ago the SOB approaches me trying to shake my hand which I refused. He tried to engage me in a conversation whic I refused and told him if he wanted to "talk" let's take it off property. I reminded him that he is married and I'm sure his wife wouldn't appreciate him having a side piece of whom is my accuser. A-hole complained to corporate office of gym franchise. Now I'm under investigation and under threat of getting kicked out of gym. Good times.

Posted by: JROD at September 05, 2019 02:34 PM (F65bY)

72 Quinn and Sarkeesian use vague and nebulous "death threats" to paint themselves as put upon maidens, but don't care when someone actually dies because of them.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at September 05, 2019 02:34 PM (NWY1X)

73 Wait, so he literally grabbed her by the mish and carried her around like a bowling ball?----

Chuck Norris in his prime didn't have the arm/grip strength to carry that land-whale around by the mish like a bowling ball.

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 02:34 PM (77WPm)

74 MY COUSIN has recently been wrongfully accused (by a power hungry cunt who will step on anyone, anywhere to get ahead, or so he tells me) and let me tell you it's a worse feeling than you can really imagine. You feel guilty just trying to tell people about it. You feel marked and vulnerable and angry because you can't fight back. The system, having been created to rightfully protect real victims, is simultaneously designed to aid and comfort power hungry cunts.

Or so he's told me.

Posted by: ... at September 05, 2019 02:34 PM (pqSP3)

75 >>>There's also the story that Candace Owens told Joe Rogan about when she announced a new website tp "out the online billies - not literally, but it was misinterpreted - that she received a call out of the blue from Quinn. Quinn told her she would ruin everything, and if she didn't scrap the site she would be doxed and harassed online. Owens refused (she thought Quinn was a fraud), and then Owens was immediately harassed online, doxed, her family doxed and harassed as well. Owens says she's 100% certain the people were harassing her at Quinn's prompting.

In fairness, I'm almost certain Owens was wrong about that.

Owens was herself proposing a doxxing site -- a site where people could dox their alleged "harassers." Quinn pointed out, correctly, that people would abuse such a site to make false claims and dox innocent people -- which of course they WOULD, and no one with any amount of savvy could think otherwise.

Owens is just barmy on this point, claiming that Quinn would have to incite internet trolls from abusing her for proposing a site where trolls (and innocent people too) could be doxxed. They had plenty of reason to harass her, no need of a word from Quinn about doing so.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:36 PM (PbpT7)

76 Quinn is just one example, though. Every so often I get a "everyone hate on this hunter for shooting an animal I think is cute!" post in social media, including full contact info and their boss's contact to make sure they get fired or disciplined.

That's just wrong, I don't care what your cause is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:36 PM (KZzsI)

77 I can't get any info on Jeremy Soule, the game music composer, that is not from an extremely biased source. From what TheQuartering said, Zoe Quinn made the accusation against Alec Holowka to upstage the chick who made a claim against Soule. I sincerely hope that game companies will give a chance for the truth to be revealed before they cut ties with Soule, who is a musical genius.

Posted by: pookysgirl at September 05, 2019 02:37 PM (XKZwp)

78 >>>72 Quinn and Sarkeesian use vague and nebulous "death threats" to paint themselves as put upon maidens, but don't care when someone actually dies because of them.

Good point, I should have said that. They say "death threats" to mean "someone said GDIA" (go die in a fire) and "Rape threats" to mean "fuck you."

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:37 PM (PbpT7)

79 IIRC, "Zoe" is a mentally ill dude.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 05, 2019 02:37 PM (fe82+)

80
There's also the story that Candace Owens told Joe Rogan about when she announced a new website tp "out the online billies - not literally, but it was misinterpreted - that she received a call out of the blue from Quinn. Quinn told her she would ruin everything, and if she didn't scrap the site she would be doxed and harassed online. Owens refused (she thought Quinn was a fraud), and then Owens was immediately harassed online, doxed, her family doxed and harassed as well. Owens says she's 100% certain the people were harassing her at Quinn's prompting.

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Yup, I watched Candace Owens for the first time, very early on, telling the whole sordid tale to Dave Rubin. I believe every word she said.

Zoe Quinn created Candace Owens, taking her from being an apolitical default Democrat, and turned her into a prominent voice for black conservatives, more influential than Zoe will ever be.

It must fucking eat her alive.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 02:37 PM (fUqBx)

81 76 Quinn is just one example, though. Every so often I get a "everyone hate on this hunter for shooting an animal I think is cute!" post in social media, including full contact info and their boss's contact to make sure they get fired or disciplined.

That's just wrong, I don't care what your cause is.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:36 PM (KZzsI)

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"I disagree with you and need your home address for reasons."
-Concerned citizen

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 05, 2019 02:38 PM (k8SgU)

82 Wait, I thought Quinn was associated with the 'Gone Home' game?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 02:38 PM (ycWCI)

83 Psychopathic bitch has claimed a life now in her quest for attention and narcissistic fulfillment.

She will not enjoy God's judgement.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 05, 2019 02:38 PM (6JL3d)

84 Rape threats" to mean "fuck you."
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So I should stick with "Go F yourself"? Cuz seems like that'd be hard to mis-characterize as a death threat or rape.

Posted by: sounds like a plan at September 05, 2019 02:39 PM (a0HYk)

85 Great, courageous post Ace.

Posted by: ShainS -- founder of Trump's next PAC at September 05, 2019 02:40 PM (Kag2G)

86 Cancel Culture and the Left are one and the same.

Posted by: Frosty at September 05, 2019 02:40 PM (7TGja)

87 28 Imagine if Leif Olson had a history of major depression and suicidal ideation. Imagine if Nicholas Sandmann had a history of major depression and suicidal ideation.
Posted by: Hands at September 05, 2019 02:23 PM (786Ro)



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We beat off to those imaginations every night.
- Leftists

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:40 PM (FiUMj)

88 Driving America to suicide.

Posted by: Frosty at September 05, 2019 02:40 PM (7TGja)

89 Rape threats" to mean "fuck you."

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So I should stick with "Go F yourself"? Cuz seems like that'd be hard to mis-characterize as a death threat or rape.

Posted by: sounds like a plan at September 05, 2019 02:39 PM (a0HYk)

Challenge accepted!
- Zoe Quinn

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 02:40 PM (77WPm)

90 They will import the rope from China to hang you with.


Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 02:34 PM (5NMZN)

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bringing rope to a gun fight... that will end well for them.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 05, 2019 02:40 PM (fe82+)

91 my meter is pegged at zero.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 05, 2019 02:41 PM (KP5rU)

92 Great, courageous post Ace.

Posted by: ShainS -- founder of Trump's next PAC at September 05, 2019 02:40 PM (Kag2G)

Seconded.

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 02:41 PM (77WPm)

93 84 Rape threats" to mean "fuck you."
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So I should stick with "Go F yourself"? Cuz seems like that'd be hard to mis-characterize as a death threat or rape.
Posted by: sounds like a plan at September 05, 2019 02:39 PM (a0HYk

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"You should become a hermit in the desert."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 05, 2019 02:41 PM (k8SgU)

94 83 Psychopathic bitch has claimed a life now in her quest for attention and narcissistic fulfillment.

She will not enjoy God's judgement.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 05, 2019 02:38 PM (6JL3d)

That was something I was just thinking about: the power fantasy side of the mob rule. The ability to snap your fingers and pick a person at random who annoys you and end their life (either really or metaphorically speaking.)

That is Power, and most people have a fetish for it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 02:41 PM (ycWCI)

95 My stepcousin hounded her soon-to-be ex husband to suicide. He had a history of depression (which she knew), but she was just a bitter and vindictive person, and started repeatedly badgering him with new court-orders literally every week -- HER OWN DIVORCE LAWYER told her to back off because she was just being a bitch. She called him one night to say that she had decided he was an unfit father and was going to file abuse charges (totally bogus) and would do everything in her power to make sure he never saw their son again or his child from a previous marriage (who, ironically, she had actually abused). He apparently started weeping on the phone, and had already been drinking, and she just kept at him, and he got a gun and blew his brains out while she was listening.

I mean, legally, I don't think there was ever anything to charge her with, but morally is a very different story.

Posted by: sunny-dee at September 05, 2019 02:41 PM (pID7O)

96 The sad part is there are more people like this woman who look for people to accuse just to get attention. The fact that she has a cadre of social media fans willing to do her dirty work just makes her impact worse. I've known this type of person many times in my life. Some are very effective at destruction of others and some just destroy themselves.

Posted by: soulpile at September 05, 2019 02:42 PM (wJAJb)

97 Owens was herself proposing a doxxing site -- a site where people could dox their alleged "harassers." Quinn pointed out, correctly, that people would abuse such a site to make false claims and dox innocent people -- which of course they WOULD, and no one with any amount of savvy could think otherwise.

And here's where I point out that this is where you go when you say "their rules!" to everything. Even when the left goes nuts and we have to bend our rules to fight back... we should have limits.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:42 PM (KZzsI)

98
I read the walked me around the house comment as he made a human puppet.
Ok I'm a little touched in the noggin.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 05, 2019 02:42 PM (r+sAi)

99 Don't be surprised if all the white knight SJWs don't show up here and start hooting and hollering for daring to tell the truth about their idol.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 02:42 PM (3aU1i)

100 I don't really have any trouble believing that the kind of guy who would go after Zoe Quinn has such a warped view of male/female relations that he'd do the kinds of things that was alleged.

But that's not an offense punishable by death, of course.

So, I'm going to unironically parrot Jonah Goldberg here and say "I"m allowed to think both sides are bad."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 05, 2019 02:42 PM (KUaJL)

101 97 And here's where I point out that this is where you go when you say "their rules!" to everything. Even when the left goes nuts and we have to bend our rules to fight back... we should have limits.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:42 PM (KZzsI)

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"I only have one rule."
-Batman

"Then that's the one rule you'll have to break..."
-The Joker

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 05, 2019 02:43 PM (k8SgU)

102 >>Quinn is just one example, though. Every so often I get a "everyone hate on this hunter for shooting an animal I think is cute!" post in social media, including full contact info and their boss's contact to make sure they get fired or disciplined.

That's just wrong, I don't care what your cause is.
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Agreed.

However, Quinn and Sarkeesian from gamergate monetize it. They fundraise off of their online harassment; more harassment = send more money!!

Notice how twice in her tale she had someone else buy her a plane ticket - that's a little weird for an adult, right, always depending on other people to bail you out? Doesn't she have a job?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 02:43 PM (bDqIh)

103
In fairness, I'm almost certain Owens was wrong about that.

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I'm not.

She claimed that Zoe was inventing online harassers to bolster her claims of harassment, then became concerned that this would be exposed, and called and verbally threatened Owens.

Maybe the people who doxxed Owens did so of their own volition. But Owens has good reason to believe that Quinn was behind, due to the verbal threats.

And I don't believe that Owens made that up, because a story about Quinn confabulating harassment, then threatening people who endangered her grift doesn't have the "ring of truth."

It has the "ring of exactly what that bitch would do."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 02:43 PM (fUqBx)

104 Ace, here's a thread idea on red flag laws.

https://bit.ly/2lyUvwQ

School originally kicked the kid out for going to the gun range WITH HIS MOTHER.

Then they backtracked.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 05, 2019 02:43 PM (ctGui)

105 Read where some crazy left sub-reddit is going to post FEC PT contributions to make it easy to harass and dox Trump supporters. So, who is responsible when some crazy guy decides this isn't enough and goes vigilante? Pushing ppl off the edge should have some punishment, what it should be I don't know.

Posted by: Ever at September 05, 2019 02:44 PM (ZZDMQ)

106 How did he die? Did he leave a note? Damn I miss the real news media.

Posted by: Regular joe at September 05, 2019 02:45 PM (6/uwW)

107 This cancel culture is insane and dangerous.

But when it comes to shit like video games or comics, I can't take any of it seriously.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:45 PM (FiUMj)

108 I sincerely hope that game companies will give a chance for the truth to be revealed before they cut ties with Soule, who is a musical genius.

Holy crap yes, it would be idiotic to cut him loose. This has gone way beyond absurd into straight up destructive insanity. I am hoping we've hit the crest and that there will be at least a waning and failure of this crap if not a painful backlash.

I love his Elder Scrolls music, and that he's been able to make a distinct and powerful version of the same themes for each game in a way movie composers seem unable to do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:45 PM (KZzsI)

109 Psychopaths purposefully push people to suicide, and they get away with it.

Posted by: jennifer anniston's perky nipples at September 05, 2019 02:45 PM (QwmrN)

110 And here's where I point out that this is where you go when you say "their rules!" to everything. Even when the left goes nuts and we have to bend our rules to fight back... we should have limits.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:42 PM (KZzsI)


If our rules (current law properly adjudicated) were enforced there would be no "their rules".

Posted by: Frosty at September 05, 2019 02:46 PM (7TGja)

111 Cancel Culture and the Left are one and the same.
Posted by: Frosty at September 05, 2019 02:40 PM (7TGja)

Lelephant dans la piece

Posted by: ... at September 05, 2019 02:46 PM (pqSP3)

112 I absolutely blame Quinn for Holowka's suicide. Zoe Quinn never met an alleged misogynistic incident she didn't love to spew about on social media. The fact she waited ten years and until this guy was working on another game tells me she was JEALOUS of him, angry that her dumping of him hadn't sent him off the deep end already, and wanted him to HURT. She was deliberate and calculating in her maliciousness, and KNEW what would happen. She knew.




I don't know if the guy assaulted her or not. Frankly I don't care. If little miss drama queen couldn't be assed to go to the cops about it ten years ago then pardon me if I don't give her claims any weight or value. She's a vile, venom-laced hag who should be excommunicated from public life and forced to scrub toilets in truck stops during the graveyard shift, just so no one ever has to see her pinched, lemon-sucking whore face ever again.


MWR out.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 02:46 PM (rP4OC)

113 A friend of mine who works downtown at the license bureau ran the isp address of this blog. This blog is like a rash all over the internet. And he's a catholic.

1060 West Addison

Go get 'em Quinney

Posted by: THE Mall Ninja at September 05, 2019 02:46 PM (Fu3Yb)

114
Don't be surprised if all the white knight SJWs don't show up here and
start hooting and hollering for daring to tell the truth about their
idol.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 02:42 PM (3aU1i)

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wait'll they trigger the ban hammer....


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 05, 2019 02:46 PM (fe82+)

115 damn it.

"He Stopped Loving Her Today" is the saddest song ever written in the history of man.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:47 PM (KZzsI)

116 But when it comes to shit like video games or comics, I can't take any of it seriously.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:45 PM (FiUMj)
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That's still people's lives isn't it? Like some people eat sleep and breathe that stuff because it gives them a living. I don't think it matters what sector it's in. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.

Posted by: ... at September 05, 2019 02:48 PM (pqSP3)

117 I'm sure this Alec fellow may not have been a peach. He obviously had the typical low standards of a game dev - what other industry would have so many thirsty guys chasing after a complete mediocrity like Quinn?

In a way it reminds me of the case that ended "To Catch A Predator." They had some Texas area attorney in a sting, and they wanted to catch him so bad that when he didn't take the bait to come to the trap house, they went to his house. And he killed himself before they could get to him. He probably wasn't a great guy - but it wasn't right to force him into a corner and metaphorically put the gun in his mouth.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:48 PM (oZ6kz)

118 Every so often I get a "everyone hate on this hunter for shooting an animal I think is cute!" post in social media, including full contact info and their boss's contact to make sure they get fired or disciplined.

Today's version is a woman stubbing out a lit cigarette on a dog's eyes, by the way. I'm not sure I can disagree with the cancelling in that instance.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 02:48 PM (ZGrMX)

119 Geez is #113 for real, are Quinn's white knights really here?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 02:48 PM (bDqIh)

120
But when it comes to shit like video games or comics, I can't take any of it seriously.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:45 PM (FiUMj)

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I'm not into either, and I had trouble following the Gamergate story as a result.

But it caught my attention at some point, because something incredible was happening.

For the first time in my life, the Left attacked an institution and was defeated. That was mindblowing. I think if we can ever turn things around here, then in an odd twist of fate, history will remember that as a milestone of When Things Began to Change.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 02:48 PM (fUqBx)

121 Psychopaths purposefully push people to suicide, and they get away with it.

I think that is a particularly female serial killer technique. And they almost never are caught or even suspected.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:48 PM (KZzsI)

122 I like Owens and all but read about her "Social Autopsy" site -- it was an SJW type site intended to unmask/dox alleged internet "harassers."

Actual trolls would have their own interest in stopping the project.

So, would that matter, any citizen who is against social mobs and harassment. It was a dangerous, stupid, and naive idea.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:49 PM (PbpT7)

123 The sad part is that this will be unlikely to even give her pause. It will actually be taken as validation. What a world.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 02:49 PM (ycWCI)

124 107 This cancel culture is insane and dangerous.

But when it comes to shit like video games or comics, I can't take any of it seriously.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:45 PM (FiUMj)

Video games are one of the last entertainment industries the Left doesn't control - and they want that control very badly.

It is a serious problem, because right now, games are one of the few ways young people are encountering traditional ideas, rather than Leftoid propaganda.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 02:49 PM (3aU1i)

125 I guess it's time to post hundreds of Zoe Quinn nudes on 4chan. Again. Hey, someone's got to do it. Her fault for being a porn hag.

BTW, the photos are easy to find, but I wouldn't bother if you're curious. They're not eyebleach bad; you'll just wish you hadn't wasted your time.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 05, 2019 02:49 PM (er3nF)

126 I am really into Gaming. I know the world and the culture, and while I stop well short of saying I am OF the culture, I do think I understand and appreciate it.

This said, two things: one, I cannot think of ANYTHING that Quinn has been involved in that has achieved even tepid approval from Gamers. True she isn't mainstream, but she's not even a blip on the Indie side of things.

Two, her rep is made up of having the "look" but she has never been OF the culture either. She's tried, yes, but with her disaster of a "game" she tried to create her rep among serious Gamers is extremely low.

She's manufactured, generally by the gamer mags that created GamerGate to begin with.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at September 05, 2019 02:49 PM (TB7HE)

127 "Geez is #113 for real, are Quinn's white knights really here?"

LOL, it's from Blues Brothers.

Posted by: Chris M at September 05, 2019 02:50 PM (eAZVt)

128 But when it comes to shit like video games or comics, I can't take any of it seriously.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:45 PM (FiUMj)

You don't really have to take video games or comics seriously, but the upshot of the thing is that if they come for a hobby like video games or comics and succeed, then there's pretty much nothing you can do that's not potentially in their reach for politicization.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 05, 2019 02:50 PM (KUaJL)

129 damn it.

"He Stopped Loving Her Today" is the saddest song ever written in the history of man.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


No one could sing it like George Jones.
Although, Alan Jackson singing it at George Jone's funeral on YouTube is every bit a tear jerker.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 05, 2019 02:50 PM (ctGui)

130 Quinn and Sarkeesian use vague and nebulous "death
threats" to paint themselves as put upon maidens, but don't care when
someone actually dies because of them.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at September 05, 2019 02:34 PM (NWY1X)
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Current gossip/cancel culture reminds me of those Hollywood ladies who reported gossip in the 30s-40s. I think there were a few men as well. Negative mentions from those power gossips could kill a movie, a marriage, a career and, yes I think there were a few suicides to their credit.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 05, 2019 02:50 PM (MIKMs)

131 Foghorn Leghorn called, said "Them kids just ain't right, ya know!"

Posted by: klaftern at September 05, 2019 02:50 PM (RuIsu)

132 But when it comes to shit like video games or comics, I can't take any of it seriously.

Video games is the only industry so far to have resisted cultural Marxism to any degree. Finance didn't. Manufacturing didn't. Retail didn't. Big Tech didn't.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 02:50 PM (ZGrMX)

133 forced to scrub toilets in truck stops during the graveyard shift, just so no one ever has to see her pinched, lemon-sucking whore face ever again.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 02:46 PM (rP4OC)
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You *do* have a way with words, my dear.

Posted by: ... at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (pqSP3)

134 Oh, fuck that. I'm kinda sick of the garbage that someone's suicide is on their own hands. Literally, maybe, but people in delicate mental states are prone to respond dangerously to deliberate, overt, targeted attacks on their character or psyche. You're the one who is playing with the flare when you know damn well they are sitting on a powder keg.

We call this conceited, narcissistic, self absorbed behavior that comes from a person who is either not well themselves, or knows precisely what they are doing. The intent is to hurt and belittle, and it's especially cruel when it is done with deliberate intent.

Did she actually "pull the trigger"? Well, of course not. But she put the gun in his hand, when she knew there was a good chance he would use it.

This is of course not always the case and a lot of people, good people with good intentions labor over the suicide of people they've know. But that's not what happened here.

Posted by: Marcus White-T at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (VpIIl)

135 But it caught my attention at some point, because something incredible was happening.

For the first time in my life, the Left attacked an institution and was defeated. That was mindblowing. I think if we can ever turn things around here, then in an odd twist of fate, history will remember that as a milestone of When Things Began to Change.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 02:48 PM (fUqBx)

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I still don't understand what GamerGate is or was or will be to be honest. But I think it was a good thing? I dunno. It's like trying to decipher a language I don't speak when it comes to the topic.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (FiUMj)

136 42 >>>Wasn't there some chick that was just arrested for telling her boyfriend to off himself?


yeah but that was active, overt pressure to kill himself. Not just being such an asshole that he considered it as an option.

And I don't think anyone can be held responsible for anyone else's suicide. I think that case was an example of Hard Cases Make Bad Law.
Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 02:27 PM (PbpT7)
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To be clear, your comment seems to imply you mean "legally responsible". I'd think it obvious that there are many cases where someone would be morally responsible. And indeed in societies like small towns someone could get shunned for crap like that.

I actually think it is POSSIBLE to conceive of a case where it might even be legally punishable. But that takes us more into the realm of fiction than law.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (VaN/j)

137 Never stick your dick in Zoe Quinn, kids.

Posted by: eleven at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (tH5fk)

138 Posted by: THE Mall Ninja at September 05, 2019 02:46 PM (Fu3Yb)

It's located at Wrigley Field?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (RD7QR)

139 Video games influence Gen Z way more than movies and TV do. It's a multi-billion dollar industry. And yes, it has a fanbase that at least managed to get a stalemate with the SJW hordes - I don't know that gamers "won" GamerGate, but they didn't lose it either, since gaming journalism is pretty much dead in most peoples eyes.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (oZ6kz)

140 Shows up as the address for Wrigley Field in Chicago.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (ycWCI)

141 >>LOL, it's from Blues Brothers.

D'oh!

LOL

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (bDqIh)

142 Driving someone to suicide is classic psychopathic behavior.

And you're right, they do view it as an "achievement".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 05, 2019 02:52 PM (I2/tG)

143 Video games is the only industry so far to have resisted cultural Marxism to any degree. Finance didn't. Manufacturing didn't. Retail didn't. Big Tech didn't.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 02:50 PM (ZGrMX)

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Fair enough. I didn't realize that.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:52 PM (FiUMj)

144 Quinn? As in Mighty Eskimo?

Posted by: Archer at September 05, 2019 02:52 PM (gmo/4)

145 Did she actually "pull the trigger"? Well, of course not. But she put the gun in his hand, when she knew there was a good chance he would use it.

"I don't know what you're talking about"
--Courtney Love

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:52 PM (KZzsI)

146 Video games is the only industry so far to have resisted cultural Marxism to any degree. Finance didn't. Manufacturing didn't. Retail didn't. Big Tech didn't.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 02:50 PM (ZGrMX)

Video games aren't exactly high status. Or they weren't until recently.

Posted by: Someguy at September 05, 2019 02:53 PM (4i8PS)

147 137 Never stick your dick in Zoe Quinn, kids.
Posted by: eleven at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (tH5fk)

======

*sadly kicks sand*

"I'll never get a date..."
-Zoe Quinn, another one, a nice girl who just wants to love

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 05, 2019 02:53 PM (k8SgU)

148 Eskimo
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Racist. Please use Esquimaux instead.

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 02:53 PM (5NMZN)

149 139 Video games influence Gen Z way more than movies and TV do. It's a multi-billion dollar industry. And yes, it has a fanbase that at least managed to get a stalemate with the SJW hordes - I don't know that gamers "won" GamerGate, but they didn't lose it either, since gaming journalism is pretty much dead in most peoples eyes.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (oZ6kz)

Considering Bioware, I am not sure we won either. However, hope remains as there are a few games (from other publishers) that come out that seem normal still.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 02:53 PM (ycWCI)

150 The Left has weaponized depression. I've said that before.

If you needed proof, well. Here it is.

Is a person entirely responsible for their own suicide if someone uses their illness against them to heavily push them in that direction? What if they make the materials for it available when they might not be?

Or, say, disable cameras and tell two guards to take a nap?

See how this works now?

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 02:54 PM (AM1GF)

151 Wait, so he literally grabbed her by the mish and carried her around like a bowling ball?----

More like he jammed his fingers up inside and kept them in there as he made her walk around the apartment, probably on her tiptoes.


A quick elbow to the throat would have put an end to that, if she'd wanted it to end.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 02:54 PM (rP4OC)

152 >>>Racist. Please use Esquimaux instead.


the esquimaux have skull shapes indicating low intellect and poor self-control.

Posted by: Arthur Conan Doyle at September 05, 2019 02:54 PM (PbpT7)

153 Jesus sunny-dee.

now *i'm* getting depressed. someone post a video of rabbits playing fetch or something

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (V2mvo)

154 Video games? Those are like pinball, but without all the quarters, right?

Posted by: Archer at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (gmo/4)

155 But when it comes to shit like video games or comics, I can't take any of it seriously.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:45 PM (FiUMj)


I got into it back in the 70s/80s at first, mainly as a fun diversion. But then a game called Wing Commander came along and it, well, grabbed me. It was a game that did something that I hadn't done before...given a damn about the characters. It was, not to put too much of a spin on it, an interactive movie.

As things progressed and technology got better, I found myself preferring games to movies or TV. Hell, Bioshock is probably the best game I've ever played, and not because of the mechanics but because of the STORY. I'd rather play Bioshock again than watch Star Wars.

Point being, it isn't really kids stuff at this point. There's a LOT of really interesting things happening in gaming, so much so that I think it drew the attention of the Liberal Left to try and coopt it. They couldn't. I mean, they were going after Gamers who think nothing of grinding sessions to get XP for a new hat for their online characters. You can't out-persist someone like that.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (TB7HE)

156 >>I like Owens and all but read about her "Social Autopsy" site -- it was an SJW type site intended to unmask/dox alleged internet "harassers."


Will do. In her interview she said it was misunderstood, that it wasn't going to dox people.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (bDqIh)

157 1060 West Addison



Go get 'em Quinney

Posted by: THE Mall Ninja at September 05, 2019 02:46 PM (Fu3Yb)

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well played

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (fe82+)

158 I don't know that gamers "won" GamerGate, but they didn't lose it either, since gaming journalism is pretty much dead in most peoples eyes.

To be fair, the Internet killed it already in the traditional printed form, but GamerGate seriously eroded the credibility of a lot of websites too. Random YouTubers and Twitch streamers are far more influential than anyone on Polygon or Kotaku, and it drives those sites *crazy*.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (ZGrMX)

159 So wannabe #MeToo lefty drives antifa lefty boyfriend to commit suicide? This is bad exactly how?

Posted by: Paul Gerst at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (XoGBg)

160 School originally kicked the kid out for going to the gun range WITH HIS MOTHER.



Then they backtracked.



Posted by: rickb223 at September 05, 2019 02:43 PM (ctGui)

Yep rick, in the link i posted the cops cleared him of being a threat but the school was "giving the mother the opportunity" to defend her son before a panel of 7 people before they made their own determination. Harassment. What could go wrong with Red Flag laws.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (O5bec)

161 So you guys thought human puppet too. Whew, thought I was abnormal for a sec.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (r+sAi)

162 "ideo games aren't exactly high status. Or they weren't until recently.
Posted by: Someguy at September 05, 2019 02:53 PM (4i8PS)"

Grand Theft Auto V made 6 Billion in worldwide revenue. It's a big money industry.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (oZ6kz)

163 OT before I read this movie review...

Insty link to story about Tucker's latest niceness..."thanks Walmart for ruining rural America and now lecturing them about guns"

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (Dr3iH)

164 This entire question has my blood pressure so high that I'm dizzy. See you on a different thread.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (RD7QR)

165 153 Jesus sunny-dee.

now *i'm* getting depressed. someone post a video of rabbits playing fetch or something
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (V2mvo)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQezfT7ErCg

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (ycWCI)

166 Sounds like he was as guilty as Epstein

Posted by: Kurt at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (oA5gC)

167 Wasn't there some chick that was just arrested for telling her boyfriend to off himself?

___

Not just arrested but convicted. I think it was manslaughter.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:56 PM (FiUMj)

168 Holy Moly! This woman could be the villain in a shitty comic book.

Posted by: Fritz at September 05, 2019 02:56 PM (kLDv+)

169 the esquimaux have skull shapes indicating low intellect and poor self-control.

In his defense, phrenology was considered high science as was touted by places like Harvard. How was he to know?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 02:56 PM (KZzsI)

170 -Zoe Quinn, another one, a nice girl who just wants to love

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at September 05, 2019 02:53 PM (k8SgU)

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|you misspelled "...a mentally ill male who had surgeons cut his dick off."

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 05, 2019 02:56 PM (fe82+)

171 He was a soi boy with mental health problems that stuck his dick into crazy. Sad. She seems nice.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 05, 2019 02:56 PM (0OmEj)

172 well played
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (fe82+)

To be fair, I did not catch the reference and looked up the address to see whether I should be pissed off.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 02:57 PM (ycWCI)

173 >>now *i'm* getting depressed. someone post a video of rabbits playing fetch or something


Look up "mighty Quinn Waters" - cute kid who's been on the news a few times recently.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 02:57 PM (bDqIh)

174 What could go wrong with Red Flag laws.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (O5bec)

Oh, mean aside from the same Government that couldn't protect a key federal prisoner who was on suicide watch from being suicided telling you at the same time they'll protect you just peachy-fine if you'll only turn-in all your icky guns? Yeah, can't see anything going wrong with that.

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 02:57 PM (77WPm)

175 Yeah, PewDiePie and Twitch streamers basically took all the eyeballs from Kotaku and Polygon. Maybe that would have happened anyway, but GG definitely hurried it along - why trust the reviews of people that hate you *and* get payola?

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (oZ6kz)

176 I still don't understand what GamerGate is or was or will be to be honest. But I think it was a good thing? I dunno. It's like trying to decipher a language I don't speak when it comes to the topic.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (FiUMj)

Long story short?

Toxic bitch slept with game developers for favorable ratings. Her boyfriend called her out on it. Gamers dug into it and found that the entire gaming media was deeply corrupt.

Gaming media cried to traditional media for help to try to demonize gamers as misogynistic for attacking the corruption.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (3aU1i)

177 So was the guy who offed himself a leftist too?

Is so, too bad so sad. LOLGF

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (FiUMj)

178 Are we talking suavage Esquimeaux?

Posted by: eleven at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (tH5fk)

179 To be fair, the Internet killed it already in the traditional printed form, but GamerGate seriously eroded the credibility of a lot of websites too. Random YouTubers and Twitch streamers are far more influential than anyone on Polygon or Kotaku, and it drives those sites *crazy*.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (ZGrMX)

Pretty much. Why bother reading a review of a game when you can watch hours of actual gameplay footage on twitch and see for yourself?

I've bought more games in the last 5 years as a result of watching people play them and seem to have fun than because somebody hyped them up in the video game media.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (KUaJL)

180 Cyber bullying is the go to outrage these days. Lots of kids allegedly commit suicide because of it. The most infamous is the Tyler Clementi case.

I'll never understand any of it.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (3/uST)

181 So it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet - was Zoe Quinn born a biological male? I swore that was the case, but searching for it doesn't bring much up.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (oZ6kz)

182 Zoe goes by the pronoun "they" btw. She's just all sorts of normal.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (O5bec)

183 Video games aren't exactly high status. Or they weren't until recently.

Video games crossed the line of making more money than Hollywood back around 2005. Do you know why many NFL draftees are happy to be signed? Because it means they'll be in Madden NFL the next year.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (ZGrMX)

184 So I think I had a wire crossed with Brianna Wu - she was the one born male. Zoe is female, I guess - just not a particularly good looking one.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (oZ6kz)

185
Video games influence Gen Z way more than movies and TV do.

As a Boomer, the gamer stuff is like a science fiction alternate universe to me. Completely incomprehensible and unknown.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (aKsyK)

186 162 "ideo games aren't exactly high status. Or they weren't until recently.
Posted by: Someguy at September 05, 2019 02:53 PM (4i8PS)"

Grand Theft Auto V made 6 Billion in worldwide revenue. It's a big money industry.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (oZ6kz)

Having money and status are two different things. Journalists have status, but they don't have money for instance.

Video gaming remains a not highly regarded activity, and so has tended to evade notice, until recently.

Posted by: Someguy at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (4i8PS)

187 I still don't understand what GamerGate is or was or will be to be honest. But I think it was a good thing? I dunno. It's like trying to decipher a language I don't speak when it comes to the topic.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 02:51 PM (FiUMj)
+++++++++++
*Very* short version. It was an industrial press scandal that got completely out of control.

It came to light (Zoe Quinn was involved) that some games journalists were sleeping with some games developers and providing great reviews on crappy games. It went a bit beyond that - some kickbacks, good 'ole boy relationships, etc. - but that was the trigger. The games press consumers demanded - quite reasonably - that the games journals disclose potential conflicts of interest (like "I'm nailing the developer" or "I'm an investor") like all other industrial press outfits do.

In response, they turned the SJW cannon on the largely male games market. This was an unreasonable demand, and the games journals would not comply because it is just because of misogyny and anti-woman/ant-minority/anti-whatever attitudes of the regressive games culture.

The games market - that is, the people who comprise that market - fought back and hard and essentially told the SJW element in the industry to get fucked. This was the "weaponization" of 4chan, the rise of Milo Yiannopolis, and many other effects.

It was the first time the Progressive/SJW play failed. No one should ever have heard of GamerGate as it was just a conflict-of-interest scandal within the games press. They tried to weasel out of it, and as a result *everyone* has at least heard of it, and it was the first example of the SJW counterattack failing. It was hugely important and provided a playbook of how it can work - no apologies, never lose the message, continuously push your message and loudly - not silently - reject theirs and keep pushing as hard as you can and corner the bastards. Trump essentially ran a tame version of this during the campaign and got into the big chair at least partially as a result of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (e/H31)

188 175 Yeah, PewDiePie and Twitch streamers basically took all the eyeballs from Kotaku and Polygon. Maybe that would have happened anyway, but GG definitely hurried it along - why trust the reviews of people that hate you *and* get payola?
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (oZ6kz)

It is not just that, their reviews were often crap. Some games they said were good were bad. Some games they said were bad were good. That is not a way to build trust when that is kind of your Reason as a company. Better to go with individuals you trust and keep trusting them until the have a string of bad choices.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (ycWCI)

189 Oh man if I wrote a comic, I would use the name Zoe Quinn for an evil little tart sjw that does nothing but complain and dies trying to get a quarter out of a pop machine. No superhero wanted to save her.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (r+sAi)

190 >>>Will do. In her interview she said it was misunderstood, that it wasn't going to dox people.

well the whole point was to name harassers so I don't know what she's talking about.

She might have claimed that she'd have a "staff" (please -- websites don't have enough money for staffs) to "vet" the tips/doxxes, but that just means she'd put the dox through a brief and inadequate "review" before putting the dox information up.

Owens was herself harassed (see her TED talk about it) and she acted like an SJW afterwards. I can understand this, but this was a bad idea from the start.

tbh I've never really trusted her, because I wonder, "what happens when she realizes it was NOT Zoe Quinn who told people to give her grief about her dox site?"

She says that is the event that made her a conservative. What happens when she finds out she was wrong about it?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (PbpT7)

191 So it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet - was Zoe Quinn born a biological male? I swore that was the case, but searching for it doesn't bring much up.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic


You're thinking of "Brianna" Wu.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (AM1GF)

192 I'll never understand any of it.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (3/uST)

I don't get it either, but then again I (and I'm guessing you) don't live staring at my phone all day looking for validation.

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (77WPm)

193 you misspelled "...a mentally ill male who had surgeons cut his dick off."

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 05, 2019 02:56 PM

That's Brianna Wu. Zoe Quinn has a natural vagina... that you want NOTHING to do with.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (er3nF)

194 Saw the headline previously but did not realize Zoe Quinn was involved.

She is the gaming industry equivalent of Jamie Gorelick.

Posted by: motionview at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (pYQR/)

195 >>So it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet - was Zoe Quinn born a biological male? I swore that was the case, but searching for it doesn't bring much up.


You're thinking of another gamergate, uh, chick, Brianna Wu.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (bDqIh)

196 Christianity, foibles you want to assign to it (even excluding the Catholic Church, who have done their level best to help destroy it) is about second chances. Redemption.


These ideas are expressly squeezed out of cancel and mob culture. For that matter so is the idea of the existence of valid, unchanging laws of morality.


With this hateful mob in self-appointed charge, today's normal expression is tomorrow's moral outrage. And there are no second chances. You are to be ruined. What is ruination? The explicit removal of any second chance.


The only possible redemption is to join the mob, but even that is temporary, as every mob member is a mere asshair away from total destruction.


And who knows what the rules will be tomorrow, let alone next Monday, or in 2025. Tune in and find out.

Posted by: ... at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (pqSP3)

197 I like microsoft combat flight simulator.

Posted by: Archer at September 05, 2019 03:01 PM (gmo/4)

198 Personally I think the whole cyberbully thing is a made up "crisis" much like climate change, opioids, etc. It's all part of the scare culture, where everything you do, see, eat, touch or smell will KILL YOU!!!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 03:01 PM (FiUMj)

199 182 Zoe goes by the pronoun "they" btw. She's just all sorts of normal.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (O5bec)

There is a Legion biblical reference in there somewhere.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:01 PM (ycWCI)

200
Yeah, PewDiePie and Twitch streamers basically took all the eyeballs from Kotaku and Polygon. Maybe that would have happened anyway, but GG definitely hurried it along - why trust the reviews of people that hate you *and* get payola?
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (oZ6kz)

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Their little plan is over.

The idea, as it always is, was to infiltrate the media (in this case, the gaming press), and use it to culturally manipulate and dominate an institution.

For once, that plan hit a wall.

Who would've thought the introverted freakin' video game nerds would turn out to be the only people in this country with the nads to stand up and say "NO?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 03:01 PM (fUqBx)

201 Um, by the way, we're all being VERY disrespectful to Quinn in this thread. Zoe's preferred pronoun is THEY. We should all be referring to Zoe as THEY, not SHE.

For example:

Someone please tell Zoe Quinn I hope they get fucked with an acid-soaked pineapple.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 03:02 PM (rP4OC)

202 Night in the Woods is actually a beautiful well written game with an excellent soundtrack.

It's sad that Holowka with all his other issues was drawn to Zoe. It's like those crazy women that marry serial killers in prison. Equally shitty that his friends and coworkers threw him under the bus at the slightest accusation. Holowka saw his entire life destroyed in the matter of a week by an accusation without evidence. That's difficult enough for a sane person and for someone like Holowka with maniac depression that was a literal death sentence.

There's a special place in Hell for Zoe for pushing this guy over the edge and depriving the world of his future creative work. Night in the Woods was supposed to have a prequel/sequel due to its success. So not only does Zoe (that couldn't make a profitable game if her life depended on it) destroy lives (literally) she destroyed an entire creative universe beloved by hundreds of thousands if not millions of people world wide.

SJWs are a cancer. They destroy everything they touch, make everyone around them miserable, and kill people.
=(

Posted by: Oh No No not the Bees at September 05, 2019 03:02 PM (Sqor6)

203 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP_MN-q46f4

Candace Owens' ted talk about her own encounter with (real) cyberbullies

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:02 PM (PbpT7)

204 Zoe goes by the pronoun "they" btw. She's just all sorts of normal.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (O5bec)

You can smell the crazy on (her).
- paraphrase of one of the grand-total of two good lines Mark Ruffalo delivered in the entire Avengers franchise

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 03:02 PM (77WPm)

205 She seems to be an attention whore who isn't happy unless she has a microphone in her face.

She's also a walking advertisement for rule #1
Never stick your dick in crazy, especially Bat Shit Crazy.

Just speculating but it seems possible that she stalked him, got inside and then ruined his life which caused him to loose it all.

She needs to be tied by her lip ring and have the bitchiness flogged out of her.

Posted by: Gmac-No games for you! at September 05, 2019 03:03 PM (qZdIZ)

206 no, Von Valkenburg was posting her nudes long before she decided she was pansexual or whatever the hell she is playing at. she has no Y chromosome. also, seems to be missing the "non horrible person" gene.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2019 03:03 PM (V2mvo)

207 I like microsoft combat flight simulator.
Posted by: Archer at September 05, 2019 03:01 PM (gmo/4)


iRacing is pretty fun.

Posted by: The White Devil at September 05, 2019 03:03 PM (kiyD3)

208 Giving a Twitter account to an SJW is like giving a gun to an severely retarded person.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 05, 2019 03:03 PM (19g6/)

209 >>>You can smell the crazy on (her).

Crazy smells like fermented trout?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:03 PM (PbpT7)

210 Only video game I play these days is Moon Patrol. My tennis club has a Dave and Busters type game room with a 70's / 80's arcade game machine.

Oh and Missile Command.




Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 05, 2019 03:03 PM (3/uST)

211
Toxic bitch slept with game developers for
favorable ratings. Her boyfriend called her out on it. Gamers dug into
it and found that the entire gaming media was deeply corrupt.



Gaming media cried to traditional media for help to try to demonize gamers as misogynistic for attacking the corruption.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 02:58 PM (3aU1i)


Just think of GamerGate as the prototype for what we do with traditional news media every day: calling out the corruption and biases that infected gaming media and being treated like scum and Nazis because of it.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 03:03 PM (rP4OC)

212 I suspect she was projecting her own abusive behavior onto the poor guy like the parasite she is. Keep in mind that the event that kicked off Gamergate to begin with.

It was her and her white knights' reaction to a simple blog post of a different ex detailing her abusive behavior in their relationship. It just happened that a few of the infamous 5 Guys she was cheating on him with happened to be games "journalists" who may or may not have been giving her "game" positive reviews after she'd spread her legs for them. Not really an outright accusation, just something he had observed. People speculated, but nothing would have come of what most gamers thought of as simple Internet drama. But the next day, JournOList: Gamer Edition had that slew of Gamers are dead" articles which all just happened to be re-writes of each other, and the rest, as they say, is history.

To this day, no one can really say whether or not Quinn is abusive in her relationships, but well, SJWs always project.

Posted by: Saber Alter at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (D9E0b)

213 She just looks yeasty to me.

I wouldn't know whether to sex her or put some bacon on her mons.

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (PbpT7)

214 I guess we were lucky the bitches didn't drive him to mass murder.

Posted by: nip at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (Izot6)

215 Crazy smells like fermented trout?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:03 PM

Patchouli and "dry shampoo".

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (er3nF)

216 I've bought more games in the last 5 years as a result of watching people play them and seem to have fun than because somebody hyped them up in the video game media.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously


You know my "go-to" offline games these days?

Skyrim and Minecraft. Both around a decade old.

Anything more recent is descending into monetization hell. Except the indies. Still some gems there.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (AM1GF)

217 "Nice little generation you got here. Be a shame if anything was to happen to it."

-The Democrat Left-

Posted by: jbspry at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (8V4Sv)

218 Ouch.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (ycWCI)

219 >>Who would've thought the introverted freakin' video game nerds would turn out to be the only people in this country with the nads to stand up and say "NO?"


Larry Correia said something like: These idiots picked a fight with people who spend all their free time playing strategy games, learning to win - and the thought they would win?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (bDqIh)

220 Anyone up for some Pong?

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (5NMZN)

221 Personally I think the whole cyberbully thing is a
made up "crisis" much like climate change, opioids, etc. It's all part
of the scare culture, where everything you do, see, eat, touch or smell
will KILL YOU!!!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 03:01 PM (FiUMj)

When your entire life centers around getting validation for your entire life "online" it gets ugly fast when you not only don't get the validation you need, but the opposite.
Tragic. Comes from believing in nothing and therefore falling for anything.

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (77WPm)

222 In the month that she stayed, he had "physically confined" her to his apartment, "slowly isolated" her from other people in her life, and "degraded" her while they were alone, while "acting normal" in public.

Sounds like she was trying to convince herself she was living some 9 1/2 Weeks female fantasy ...

If he had actually "physically confined" her to his apartment then he would have pretty quickly isolated her from other people in her pathetic life. Of course, if he had physically confined her to his apartment there would also be no 'acting in public', at all, since she was physically confined to his apartment.

BTW, apartments are generally not the best places to confine kidnapping victims. Most apartment houses have walls that are so thin even ace could drill a hole in them. Most.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 05, 2019 03:05 PM (gHb8k)

223 Skyrim and Minecraft. Both around a decade old.



Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (AM1GF)


We may get the Skyrim sequel before I die. Maybe.

Posted by: The White Devil at September 05, 2019 03:05 PM (kiyD3)

224 181
So it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet - was Zoe Quinn born
a biological male? I swore that was the case, but searching for it
doesn't bring much up.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 02:59 PM (oZ6kz)


I believe you're thinking of Brianna Wu.

They're similarly attractive, IYKWIM.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 03:05 PM (rP4OC)

225 Holowka would "throw things" and "jam his fingers inside me and walk me around the house by them when I told him it hurt"

Finger puppet!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 05, 2019 03:05 PM (gHb8k)

226 Anyone up for some Pong?
Posted by: Undocumented


Sure.

Posted by: WOPR at September 05, 2019 03:06 PM (tH5fk)

227 >>>You can smell the crazy on (her).



Crazy smells like fermented trout?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:03 PM (PbpT7)

Fava beans, and a nice Chianti.

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 03:06 PM (77WPm)

228 'Daily Show' Correspondent Discusses His "Make Guns Gay" Plan: Guns Are "Long, Hard, and the Best Ones are Black"
https://t.co/gzJtQFEDFE

Young-White explained that studies show that "a lot of straight men don't recycle because they're worried it makes them look gay," so if that "same toxic masculinity" can be directed towards "sweet, gay guns," firearms ownership will drop. "But how do you get guns to seem gay?" asked Noah. "I mean, 'cause guns are gay," said Young-White. "Right off the bat, guns are what? Long, hard, the best ones are black. And where do people keep their guns, Trevor? In the closet."

"I get what you're trying to do, but for Americans who own firearms, guns aren't just like guns. They're a community of masculine hunters and freedom fighters," said Noah. "Yeah, and we need to point out how gay that sounds," replied the correspondent. "Like, the right to bear arms? I love bare arms, too... Even the names of gun laws sound gay. Concealed carry? That's like every username on Grindr. The law might as well be called, 'Assbreaker37.' And Stand Your Ground? That sounds like a Kelly Clarkson gay anthem.

Noah admitted that he finally understands the plan, adding, "You're going to make guns gay. So then straight men won't want them anymore, so they're going to give the guns to gay people, and gay people are going to hand them over to the government." Not quite, dude. "No, no, no," said Young-White. "Gay people keep the guns, and then we run the country. You know what I'm saying?"

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 05, 2019 03:06 PM (9BmSv)

229 Which hole(s) did the finger jamming pertain to?

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (5NMZN)

230 He confined and isolated her except when they were in public.

Square that circle.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (3/uST)

231 We need a right wing benefactor, like Soros, who donates millions to organizations that take create boycotts, form protests and counter-protests, and smear campaigns, within the law.

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (4e+hS)

232 >> More like he jammed his fingers up inside and kept them in there as he made her walk around the apartment, probably on her tiptoes.


This is just impossible. I know no one wants to think about this, but this is just nonsense. Maybe he grabbed her and was being too aggressively sexual, but she makes it sound like he was carrying her around like a six pack.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (LWu6U)

233 We may get the Skyrim sequel before I die. Maybe.

Posted by: The White Devil


Based on Bugthesda's recent offerings? I'm not sure I want to see what kind of full force round robin Charlie Foxtrot that winds up being.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (AM1GF)

234 We may get the Skyrim sequel before I die. Maybe.

Posted by: The White Devil at September 05, 2019 03:05 PM (kiyD3)

#Twoweeks

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (KUaJL)

235 Anything more recent is descending into monetization hell. Except the indies. Still some gems there.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (AM1GF)

Division 2 played without other people has good shooting mechanics and good graphics.

The stable of PS4 exclusives are not bad. God of War (good.) Spider-man (good.) Horizon (meh.) Days Gone (takes forever to get going but hides an actual good, traditional story in there.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (ycWCI)

236 She is the gaming industry equivalent of Jamie Gorelick.

Posted by: motionview at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (pYQR/)


Ouch.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (hLRSq)

237 These ideas are expressly squeezed out of cancel and mob culture. For that matter so is the idea of the existence of valid, unchanging laws of morality.

Yes. This is a place that the right can stand out and be seen as something better: by retaining the concept of forgiveness.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 03:08 PM (KZzsI)

238 Which hole(s) did the finger jamming pertain to?

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (5NMZN)


If he was smart it would have been her mouth.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 05, 2019 03:08 PM (gHb8k)

239 Who would've thought the introverted freakin' video game nerds would turn out to be the only people in this country with the nads to stand up and say "NO?"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 03:01 PM (fUqBx)
++++++++++++++
Video games were last untainted space. A little slice of contextual normality. Every other space has been hopelessly corrupted. It was last hill, and it held. Whether the counterattack succeeds or not is entirely a different story.

Sorta like the Borg.
https://youtu.be/s3RNsZvdYZQ?t=81

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 05, 2019 03:08 PM (e/H31)

240 "No, no, no," said Young-White. "Gay people keep the guns, and then we run the country. You know what I'm saying?"

That's a lift of a joke in Dave Chappell's special, except changing "black" to "gay".

Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 03:08 PM (ZGrMX)

241 She is the gaming industry equivalent of Jamie Gorelick.



Posted by: motionview at September 05, 2019 03:00 PM (pYQR/)


Thank you for reminding us all of yet another leftist POS who has no business continuing to breathe the air of free men.

Posted by: DocJ at September 05, 2019 03:08 PM (77WPm)

242 79 IIRC, "Zoe" is a mentally ill dude.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 05, 2019 02:37 PM (fe82+)

You're thinking Brianna Wu (aka John Walker Flynt).

Posted by: Allie at September 05, 2019 03:09 PM (sm6Pk)

243 230 He confined and isolated her except when they were in public.

Square that circle.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (3/uST)

Well, that is kind of by definition what occurs when you go home.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:09 PM (ycWCI)

244 BTW, apartments are generally not the best places to confine kidnapping victims. Most apartment houses have walls that are so thin even ace could drill a hole in them. Most.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Well he'd have to make sure the switch was set right, but still.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:09 PM (AM1GF)

245 Did she say he jammed his fingers into her overused scabbard? My first thought was grabbing the inside of her mouth by the cheek, or even up the nostrils - both more plausible than using a hefty girl like Zo-Zo as a bowling ball.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 03:09 PM (oZ6kz)

246 So he was canceled out of existence. How thrilling for her.

It's what they want for all of us.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 05, 2019 03:09 PM (H8QX8)

247 "Only video game I play these days is Moon Patrol. My tennis club has a Dave and Busters type game room with a 70's / 80's arcade game machine."

Does it say copyright Williams or Irem on screen? If it says Irem, it's probably emulated. Only Williams machines were sold in this country.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 05, 2019 03:09 PM (er3nF)

248 We may get the Skyrim sequel before I die. Maybe.

We would have had one by now but they got involved with a meh MMOG. Its too bad because I love the setting but their character gen and interface are so annoying I can't enjoy it. Plus, they don't seem to comprehend the concept of MULTI PLAYER because there's way too much "you have to do this solo" content.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 03:09 PM (KZzsI)

249
You know my "go-to" offline games these days?



Skyrim and Minecraft. Both around a decade old.



Anything more recent is descending into monetization hell. Except the indies. Still some gems there.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (AM1GF)


I REALLY enjoyed A Hat In Time. Very fun puzzle platformer. I've been stuck on this one irritating cruise ship level for MONTHS, though, so I've walked away until I stop threatening to break my laptop.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 03:10 PM (rP4OC)

250 The complete lack of charity is demonic.

Posted by: JAS at September 05, 2019 03:10 PM (dT9VH)

251 I'll never understand any of it.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions


I don't get it either, but then again I (and I'm guessing you) don't live staring at my phone all day looking for validation.

Posted by: DocJ


*shifty eyes
We don't?
*shifty eyes

Posted by: rickb223 at September 05, 2019 03:10 PM (ctGui)

252 Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 05, 2019 03:09 PM (er3nF)

I'll have to look next time.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 05, 2019 03:10 PM (3/uST)

253 I think the lesson here is to avoid video games

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 05, 2019 03:10 PM (YslsA)

254 Video games were last untainted space. A little slice of contextual normality. Every other space has been hopelessly corrupted. It was last hill, and it held. Whether the counterattack succeeds or not is entirely a different story.

The issue remains in doubt. It still creeps in. The initial assault was thrown back, but now you gotta watch for infiltrators and worse.

They never stop.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:10 PM (AM1GF)

255 The complete lack of charity is demonic.
Posted by: JAS at September 05, 2019 03:10 PM (dT9VH)

--------

I agree.

Posted by: Zoe's Patreon at September 05, 2019 03:11 PM (fUqBx)

256 247 "Only video game I play these days is Moon Patrol. My tennis club has a Dave and Busters type game room with a 70's / 80's arcade game machine."

Does it say copyright Williams or Irem on screen? If it says Irem, it's probably emulated. Only Williams machines were sold in this country.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 05, 2019 03:09 PM (er3nF)

Many people don't know that there was a sequel, called "Horizon".

Posted by: Allie at September 05, 2019 03:11 PM (sm6Pk)

257 Spider-man also managed to do something I never thought possible: made a dislikable character voiced by Laura Bailey.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:11 PM (ycWCI)

258 That was a really deep and insightful look into current social media culture and its consequences.
But I can't get past the being walked around by the Hooha. Can't see how that works.

I know, shallow, but still.

Posted by: dagny at September 05, 2019 03:11 PM (nRWPy)

259 carrying around a 5'8-9 150 lb woman by the hooha? some out of shape weenie like him? again: buuuuull shiiit.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 05, 2019 03:12 PM (V2mvo)

260 We would have had one by now but they got involved with a meh MMOG. Its too bad because I love the setting but their character gen and interface are so annoying I can't enjoy it. Plus, they don't seem to comprehend the concept of MULTI PLAYER because there's way too much "you have to do this solo" content.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


The "utterly full of bugs they keep reintroducing or just never fix" and "cash shop hell" issues don't help.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:12 PM (AM1GF)

261 >>Video games were last untainted space.


The former members of Ravelry beg to differ.
2019 brought us woke knitting. Guy who started the site just came out as a woman.
*shakes head in disgust*

Posted by: Lizzy at September 05, 2019 03:12 PM (bDqIh)

262 230 He confined and isolated her except when they were in public.



Square that circle.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (3/uST)



He confined her and isolated her from her friends and loved ones, but she was able to get a friend to buy her a plane ticket and then left without him knowing, then broke up with him by email.


Yeah. He really kept her chained to the radiator.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 03:12 PM (rP4OC)

263 "I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning, I toss and turn
Recycle trash I used to burn"

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 03:13 PM (5NMZN)

264 Here's what I don't get. I understand there are gamers. But isn't the point playing the games, not chatting each other up like a 7th grade girl clique?

Posted by: dagny at September 05, 2019 03:13 PM (nRWPy)

265 Aha! Now I remember the power players in Hollywood, who started as actors but never made it, so they became the arbiters of everything public. Louella Parsons, Hedda Hopper, Walter Winchell. A nasty mention from one of them could destroy a career and ensure that the target couldn't get a job anywhere at anything.

Quinn is/was a failure, so she became a gatekeeper. Every single network has at least an hour of gossip every day.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 05, 2019 03:13 PM (MIKMs)

266 Which hole(s) did the finger jamming pertain to?



Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 03:07 PM (5NMZN)



If he was smart it would have been her mouth.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 05, 2019 03:08 PM (gHb8k)


Given how much filth that mouth of hers spews, it'd be more hygienic to shove them up her ass.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 03:14 PM (rP4OC)

267 Maybe he had insane grip strength (IYKWIMAITYD.)

I actually feel bad for making this joke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:14 PM (ycWCI)

268 The mistake here is in thinking she gives a a shit about anyone or how they feel.

I think a lot of people don't realize that many people operate on a different level. They have no compassion, and do not see other humans as anything more than objects for manipulation.

She sees a chance to advance herself by convincing one set of objects that this other object was abusive -- so what if it isn't true.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 05, 2019 03:15 PM (LWu6U)

269 Anything more recent is descending into monetization hell. Except the indies. Still some gems there.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (AM1GF)

Not everything, but too much. It's generally better if you avoid the games the 13 year olds are playing, as that's where most of the pay-to-win crap is targeted... And mobile. Good God, mobile is a cesspool.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 03:15 PM (3aU1i)

270 I think a lot of people don't realize that many people operate on a different level. They have no compassion, and do not see other humans as anything more than objects for manipulation.

Its a low level mental illness, but yeah. Some people take this so far they start killing. Others just ruin everyone around them because its the only way they can feel. And maybe there's just a devil inside them that has to ruin and destroy and betray.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (KZzsI)

271 Yeah, that's the crux of it - Quinn *is* a miserable person and an attention whore. But her salient trait is that she's a failure. She loves video games but couldn't make a good one if her life depended on it. So she wormed her way into being a social arbiter of who is pure enough to make games - it's one of the only ways she can control people way more talented than her. The other is her used-up flesh cave, which is for some reason still in demand even though she's charitably a 4 and she's been poked by a cast of characters bigger than the roster of Smash Bros Ultimate.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (oZ6kz)

272 I think they were/are both typical whacked leftists. He probably did torment her to an extent, and she definitely went psycho attention whore in her revenge.

Posted by: Velvet glove, iron fist at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (nhdxz)

273 One feint into a bollard and my campaign is over, while Joe's eye blows out on national TV and after he fell asleep in an interview yesterday.

Sexism is rampant on the American left.

Posted by: Hillary ==> at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (NVYyb)

274 264 Here's what I don't get. I understand there are gamers. But isn't the point playing the games, not chatting each other up like a 7th grade girl clique?
Posted by: dagny at September 05, 2019 03:13 PM (nRWPy)

For a lot of gamers, gaming is the most social interaction that they get. When you're spending hours upon hours raiding in WoW or whatever with the same group of people, there's bound to be drama.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (KUaJL)

275 She was born without legs so the "walked me around the house" thing was just him picking her up like a six pack and carrying her room to room.

Chivalrous, actually.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (Mo1SD)

276
Not everything, but too much. It's generally
better if you avoid the games the 13 year olds are playing, as that's
where most of the pay-to-win crap is targeted... And mobile. Good God,
mobile is a cesspool.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 03:15 PM (3aU1i)


Fortnight.
Needs.
To die.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (rP4OC)

277 Here's what I don't get. I understand there are gamers. But isn't the point playing the games, not chatting each other up like a 7th grade girl clique?

Every avocation has a chatting element, it's human nature.

Also, it's way more fun to tea-bag your friends than the computer.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (ZGrMX)

278 >>>273 One feint into a bollard and my campaign is over, while Joe's eye blows out on national TV and after he fell asleep in an interview yesterday.


...

what's this about Biden's eye?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:17 PM (PbpT7)

279 Good God, mobile is a cesspool.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 03:15 PM (3aU1i)

I do not get those. I can play on this stunning 5" screen while that 64" TV of 27" computer monitor just sit there?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:17 PM (ycWCI)

280 omg just found it

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:17 PM (PbpT7)

281 *static*

Posted by: the metal plate in Joe's head at September 05, 2019 03:17 PM (v0R5T)

282 Ace hadn't seen Joe's bloody eye yet?

The post on that should be a treat.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (oZ6kz)

283 what's this about Biden's eye?
Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:17 PM (PbpT7)

You missed it? He started shooting blood from his whatever.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (ycWCI)

284
Noah admitted that he finally understands the plan, adding, "You're going to make guns gay. So then straight men won't want them anymore, so they're going to give the guns to gay people, and gay people are going to hand them over to the government." Not quite, dude. "No, no, no," said Young-White. "Gay people keep the guns, and then we run the country. You know what I'm saying?"

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 05, 2019 03:06 PM (9BmSv)







Funny thing with gays and guns, one of the winners on History Channel's Top Shot was Chris Cheng, who'd only been shooting for a couple of years. Dood just had talent and discipline.

He also happens to be gay. He's repeatedly talked about how the gun community basically had the attitude of "That's nice. But can you shoot?" They didn't treat him any differently once he came out to the gun community.

His gay friends and the gay community however... From the moment he entered the competition, they gave him shit, a bunch of them ceased all contact with him, and they basically made his life a living hell.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (veoSD)

285 Ah, I see ace still doesn't read his own blog.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (rP4OC)

286 125 I guess it's time to post hundreds of Zoe Quinn nudes on 4chan. Again. Hey, someone's got to do it. Her fault for being a porn hag.

BTW, the photos are easy to find, but I wouldn't bother if you're curious. They're not eyebleach bad; you'll just wish you hadn't wasted your time.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 05, 2019 02:49 PM (er3nF)

It's a trap!

Posted by: jennifer anniston's perky nipples at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (QwmrN)

287 13 I think I prefer the term #ErasureCulture.
Posted by: ShainS -- unemployed single-round magazine salesman at September 05, 2019 02:18 PM (Kag2G)

Just go all the way ghey with #ErasureCultureClub

Posted by: Roy at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (0yxK0)

288 Anything more recent is descending into monetization hell.

Its a challenge for people who put out any kind of game: once everyone who plays these things has bought your product, your earning power stops. Why do you think AD&D has 5 editions? Its not because the rules needed fixing 4 times, its because once all their fans have bought all the books, their earnings drop off. So you drop a new edition, and now everyone has to buy a new Monster Manual or three, a new Player's Handbook, on and on.

Warhammer's entire business model is built around this. They are a miniatures company, but most people won't buy minis just to have them, they want something to DO with the things. So they put out games that use the minis and sell minis. And once the sales start to fade, they change a few rules and put out a new edition.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (KZzsI)

289 and he finally found a new ball he loved just as much.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (ycWCI)

290 271 Yeah, that's the crux of it - Quinn *is* a miserable person and an attention whore. But her salient trait is that she's a failure. She loves video games but couldn't make a good one if her life depended on it. So she wormed her way into being a social arbiter of who is pure enough to make games - it's one of the only ways she can control people way more talented than her. The other is her used-up flesh cave, which is for some reason still in demand even though she's charitably a 4 and she's been poked by a cast of characters bigger than the roster of Smash Bros Ultimate.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (oZ6kz)

Video game developers don't get a lot of poon.

Posted by: Someguy at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (4i8PS)

291 Joe's eye suddenly filled with blood mid-climate town hall on CNN. IIRC, I think JJ led with a picture of it this morning.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (NVYyb)

292 Just how much freakin makeup does the manly Shep don ??


def trowel worthy

Posted by: REDACTED at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (AQBtr)

293 maybe there's just a devil inside them that has to ruin and destroy and betray.

It's called "Borderline Personality Disorder." They (typically women) cause chaos, heartbreak, destruction, financial ruin everywhere they go. They're maniacal, manipulative, narcissists who manage to make people fall in line with their deranged drama.

I'm sure you've met one or two over the course of your life.

Posted by: dagny at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (nRWPy)

294 what's this about Biden's eye?
Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:17 PM (PbpT7)

---------

His potato salad swelled up and tried to leak out of his head on TV - during that debate, I think. A blood vessel in his eye ruptured.

I've seen that happen to a boss of mine, when he had a minor stroke at work.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (fUqBx)

295 even though she's charitably a 4 and she's been poked by a cast of characters bigger than the roster of Smash Bros Ultimate.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 03:16 PM (oZ6kz)

*golf clap*

An absolutely artistic turn of phrase. Love it.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (3aU1i)

296
is FlightGear still a thing?

Posted by: AltonJackson
link in nick for the MiMoMe
at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (cuot+)

297 what's this about Biden's eye?
Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:17 PM (PbpT7)

Seriously? His eyeball about popped out.

Posted by: jennifer anniston's perky nipples at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (QwmrN)

298 I do not get those. I can play on this stunning 5" screen while that 64" TV of 27" computer monitor just sit there?

Your 64" TV comes with you on your bus/train/subway commute every day?

Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (ZGrMX)

299
what's this about Biden's eye?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:17 PM (PbpT7)







I KNEW IT!

Proof that Teh Ewok doesn't read his own blog.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (veoSD)

300 291 Joe's eye suddenly filled with blood mid-climate town hall on CNN. IIRC, I think JJ led with a picture of it this morning.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (NVYyb)

And of course, it was blamed on climate change.

Posted by: Roy at September 05, 2019 03:20 PM (0yxK0)

301 "Video game developers don't get a lot of poon.
Posted by: Someguy at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (4i8PS)"

Neither do I, but I wouldn't fuck Zoe Quinn with ace's shelves' dick.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 03:20 PM (oZ6kz)

302 what's this about Biden's eye?
Posted by: ace


Amputated. Brutal.

Posted by: WOPR at September 05, 2019 03:20 PM (tH5fk)

303 Pig to man..., I forgot to ask: What's the farthest letter zone you've reached on Moon Patrol so far? I think I got to M.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 05, 2019 03:20 PM (er3nF)

304
Your 64" TV comes with you on your bus/train/subway commute every day?
Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (ZGrMX)

I guess I can see that. I drive though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 05, 2019 03:20 PM (ycWCI)

305 Just wondering if these CancelWarriors have thought about another possibility.

Just BLUE-SKYING here, but what IF, just IF, the person who's life they ruin decides "Fuck it, what have I got to lose?"

Then decides to go full-on Anakin/Darth Vader in her home or office?

YOU REALLY SHOWED HIM AND HIS PRIVILEGE! YOU GO, GIRL!

Posted by: Lilly Von Schtoop at September 05, 2019 03:20 PM (6MoD2)

306 From the moment he entered the competition, they gave him shit, a bunch
of them ceased all contact with him, and they basically made his life a
living hell.
-------
Doesn't seem polite.

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 03:21 PM (5NMZN)

307 Funny thing with gays and guns, one of the winners on History Channel's Top Shot was Chris Cheng, who'd only been shooting for a couple of years. Dood just had talent and discipline.

He also happens to be gay. He's repeatedly talked about how the gun community basically had the attitude of "That's nice. But can you shoot?" They didn't treat him any differently once he came out to the gun community.

His gay friends and the gay community however... From the moment he entered the competition, they gave him shit, a bunch of them ceased all contact with him, and they basically made his life a living hell.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur


Pink Pistols.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 05, 2019 03:21 PM (ctGui)

308 Now I'm thinking about Jennifer Aniston's perky nipples.

Posted by: eleven at September 05, 2019 03:21 PM (tH5fk)

309 I do not get those. I can play on this stunning 5" screen while that 64" TV of 27" computer monitor just sit there?

-

Your 64" TV comes with you on your bus/train/subway commute every day?
Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 03:19 PM (ZGrMX)

Pretty sure the target audience for mobile games is significantly different than the "gamer" crowd. Mobile games target young kids, moms, and older people, not the typical gamer demographic of "millenial dudes"

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 05, 2019 03:21 PM (KUaJL)

310 Neither do I, but I wouldn't fuck Zoe Quinn with ace's shelves' dick.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 03:20 PM (oZ6kz)


Ladies, when I'm taking a pass - you really need to sit down and re-examine some choices.

Posted by: The White Devil at September 05, 2019 03:21 PM (kiyD3)

311 Do they eat cheeseburgers in Russia?
Because I hear Siberia is melting.

Posted by: wth at September 05, 2019 03:21 PM (v0R5T)

312 If you can't keep the loot what's the point?


OT: My kid in college and Zinns book: Professor is not a fan of Zinn. Part of the curriculum is "Why Learn History (When it's already on your phone)" by Sam Wineberg.
I know nothing about him but the book blurb sounded sane.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at September 05, 2019 03:21 PM (DB16e)

313 I think a lot of people don't realize that many people operate on a different level. They have no compassion, and do not see other humans as anything more than objects for manipulation.

That's a foundational aspect of Western Leftism.

Just clumps of cells, really.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 05, 2019 03:22 PM (gHb8k)

314 Yeah Biden's eye is weird but not particularly troubling in and of its self. Broken blood vessel. Of course, it does put his "I'm perfectly healthy!" in doubt because its so obvious and awful looking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 03:22 PM (KZzsI)

315 Could someone explain #113 to me?

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at September 05, 2019 03:22 PM (aPc3n)

316 I have no clue as to who any of these people are. I think I'm glad of that.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at September 05, 2019 03:22 PM (vtcmf)

317 "Just BLUE-SKYING here, but what IF, just IF, the person who's life they ruin decides "Fuck it, what have I got to lose?"

Then decides to go full-on Anakin/Darth Vader in her home or office?

YOU REALLY SHOWED HIM AND HIS PRIVILEGE! YOU GO, GIRL!
Posted by: Lilly Von Schtoop at September 05, 2019 03:20 PM (6MoD2)"

That could never happen.

SJWs: Mass shooters are all fragile mediocre white men with a history of psychological issues.

Same SJWs: Let's bully those exact men into a situation where they consider suicide to be a legitimate option.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 05, 2019 03:22 PM (oZ6kz)

318 she's charitably a 4

I'd give her a 6*, as in I'd have to have a six-pack in me before I'd even think about it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (iys0/)

319 The day Shep met Matt at the gloryhole


absolute luv

Posted by: REDACTED at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (AQBtr)

320 what's this about Biden's eye?

Posted by: ace at September 05, 2019 03:17 PM (PbpT7)


It was menstruating.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (gHb8k)

321
Yeah Biden's eye is weird but not particularly troubling in and of its self. Broken blood vessel.

-------

Does that just happen?

As I mentioned above, the only time I've personally seen it was during a stroke.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (fUqBx)

322 I am old enough to remember when bullying was bad. We had #hashtags and everything trying to stop it.

Posted by: tbodie at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (sMMcg)

323 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (9vQJW)

324 Unless I've missed something, Ace has missed the Redstate story of what a lying douche Jake Tapper is.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (VaN/j)

325 Yeah Biden's eye is weird but not particularly
troubling in and of its self.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 03:22 PM (KZzsI)


Dude, you gotta' play the game better than that.

Biden's eye is proof he's an alien wearing a skin-suit.

Posted by: The White Devil at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (kiyD3)

326 He also happens to be gay. He's repeatedly talked about how the gun community basically had the attitude of "That's nice. But can you shoot?" They didn't treat him any differently once he came out to the gun community.

That's how we always used to handle things. I don't care who you are lusting after, keep it to yourself. What can you DO? Not who, what.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (KZzsI)

327 OT....seems like there has been a shift from call centers in India to Russia and other E. Euro countries. I kinda miss the Indian dudes pretending to be named John. They were polite. The Russians are rude as fuck.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (FiUMj)

328 what's this about Biden's eye?
..........

Kamalama put a curse on him.

Posted by: wth at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (v0R5T)

329 Could someone explain #113 to me?
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at September 05, 2019 03:22 PM (aPc3n)
+++++++++++
https://youtu.be/HsHjW8rBRk0

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (e/H31)

330 322 I am old enough to remember when bullying was bad. We had #hashtags and everything trying to stop it.
Posted by: tbodie at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (sMMcg)

Bullying is bad because bullies target marginalized people. Straight white dudes can't be marginalized, ergo it's not bullying. If anything, it's good, because it's punching up against the patriarchy.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (KUaJL)

331
Pink Pistols.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 05, 2019 03:21 PM (ctGui)






Yup. And if memory serves, PP caused a serious kerfuffle a few years back when they decided to start marching in the Folsom Street Parade up in Frisco. Especially since a bunch of pasty white straight guys marched with them in solidarity.

At least that's my memory of it way back when I spent a lot of time on the CalGuns forum years ago.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (veoSD)

332 Could someone explain #113 to me?
-------
From WikiP:
"113 is the natural number following 112 and preceding 114. It is the 30th prime number (following 109 and preceding 127)"

Posted by: Undocumented at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (5NMZN)

333 Sidebar has Kurt Schlichter retweeting Frum with absolute amazemtent in his voice, because Frum frets average citizens can't aim their weapons and, to save bystanders, should therefore not be allowed to shoot back at criminals and mass murderers.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (NVYyb)

334 And it could be a single incident of a guy doing something he thought
would be taken as either sexy or silly, but which was taken badly.

Heeellllloooo!

Posted by: jerry seinfeld talking to his girlfriend's belly-button at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (Dh1wo)

335 Does that just happen?

As I mentioned above, the only time I've personally seen it was during a stroke.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 05, 2019 03:23 PM (fUqBx)


It actually IS a stroke, isn't it? I think the eye qualifies.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 05, 2019 03:25 PM (gHb8k)

336 Warhammer's entire business model is built around this. They are a miniatures company, but most people won't buy minis just to have them, they want something to DO with the things. So they put out games that use the minis and sell minis. And once the sales start to fade, they change a few rules and put out a new edition.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 03:18 PM (KZzsI)

That, and any ruleset as complex as a tabletop RPG or wargame with as many factions and units as Warhammer has will inevitably have flaws. Exploits will be used, people will stop having fun, and then will start playing with the competition's products. You want to keep their attention, you've got to keep it fresh.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at September 05, 2019 03:25 PM (3aU1i)

337 Warhammer's entire business model is built around this. They are a miniatures company, but most people won't buy minis just to have them, they want something to DO with the things. So they put out games that use the minis and sell minis. And once the sales start to fade, they change a few rules and put out a new edition.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


So did White Wolf with its "splatbooks". Prior editions of AD&D were notorious for "rulebook creep". It's known and it's obnoxious. The new versions in video games, though, are particularly insidious. Games Workshop never puts its Orks and Space Marines in mechanisms that acted like slot machines blatantly oriented to children. EA and Activision's business models are based on it.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:25 PM (AM1GF)

338 Don't stick your dick in crazy.
Posted by: Jean at September 05, 2019 02:26 PM (lpEE6)

Or your fingers for that matter

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 05, 2019 03:25 PM (M+Lyo)

339 314
Yeah Biden's eye is weird but not particularly troubling in and of its
self. Broken blood vessel. Of course, it does put his "I'm perfectly
healthy!" in doubt because its so obvious and awful looking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2019 03:22 PM (KZzsI)


I think what makes it stand out is the fact that NO ONE in the MFM talked about it. It was such an obvious whitewashing, too, because it was all over social media, and the news LIVES on social media.


All anyone had to do was call Biden's campaign and say, "So, what's up?" and then report, "He had a burst blood vessel because of allergies," or something else completely reasonable -- because it happens to me ALL THE TIME when I rub my eyes during allergy season like the horrible person I am -- and everyone would have been like, "Oh, well, he's still a dumbass," and moved on.


Instead it became this whole THING. "What's the media not telling us? Did he have another aneurysm? Does he have bleeding on the brain? WHAT'S GOING ON?"

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at September 05, 2019 03:25 PM (rP4OC)

340
Sidebar has Kurt Schlichter retweeting Frum with absolute amazemtent in his voice, because Frum frets average citizens can't aim their weapons and, to save bystanders, should therefore not be allowed to shoot back at criminals and mass murderers.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 05, 2019 03:24 PM (NVYyb)







Especially funny since the average city cop couldn't hit the broad side of the SS Norway with a bazooka at 5 paces.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 05, 2019 03:26 PM (veoSD)

341 309 Pretty sure the target audience for mobile games is significantly
different than the "gamer" crowd. Mobile games target young kids, moms,
and older people, not the typical gamer demographic of "millenial dudes"
___

Pretty sure the typical gamer demo starts just south of 50 these days. It does get stronger when you get down to the late 30s and that's millenial territory.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at September 05, 2019 03:26 PM (sN9mD)

342 Pretty sure the target audience for mobile games is significantly different than the "gamer" crowd. Mobile games target young kids, moms, and older people, not the typical gamer demographic of "millenial dudes"

The "typical gamer demographic" is basically "humans from 4 to 100" now. There's a very nice 60-something guy in Washington state with some profound medical problems who's a gaming YouTuber and makes some nice money to help with his bills on Patreon.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 05, 2019 03:27 PM (ZGrMX)

343 noooooood

Posted by: jerry seinfeld talking to his girlfriend's belly-button at September 05, 2019 03:29 PM (Dh1wo)

344 Skyrim and Minecraft. Both around a decade old.

Anything more recent is descending into monetization hell. Except the indies. Still some gems there.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, not a rocket surgeon at September 05, 2019 03:04 PM (AM1GF)


I loved Skyrim for just that reason. When I buy a game, I want the whole damn game, and not pay money for extra gems/coins/whatever.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 05, 2019 03:31 PM (wCmLp)

345 O/T Pro Tip: Even if it's a national chain, avoid fast food drive throughs that don't have a line at lunch.

There's a reason for that.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at September 05, 2019 03:31 PM (qC1Sy)

346 Now if you need a break from this depressing stuff, check out Ethan Van Sciver's latest video about Jeremy Renner cancelling the Jeremy Renner app. I couldn't make 3 minutes without nearly crying with laughter.


https://youtu.be/VT2fe4A05R8

Posted by: josephistan at September 05, 2019 03:33 PM (Izzlo)

347
https://youtu.be/VT2fe4A05R8
Posted by: josephistan at September 05, 2019 03:33 PM (Izzlo)

-------------

The voice sounds like the same one used for "Foamy the Squirrel."

And yeah, it's a hoot.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at September 05, 2019 03:39 PM (qC1Sy)

348 Zoe Quinn=Hillary Clinton

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 05, 2019 03:42 PM (19g6/)

349 The scarier part of this is what happens when you take the hope away from someone who is NOT willing to kill themselves, but has a more violent nature.

Everyone of the latest spat of mass shootings, were Men who had no hope.

Posted by: Don Q at September 05, 2019 03:48 PM (NgKpN)

350 I would slightly disagree with Ace that suicide was Quinn's main goal. Sadly, I think it's worse than that.

Her main goal is to shut up everyone who thinks differently. Getting Holowka fired and exiled sends a message to everyone else.

As far as the suicide, I'm sure the heartless, brainless bitch just thinks, "Eh. Eggs. Omelets. You know."

Posted by: Ted K. at September 05, 2019 03:58 PM (FJYfm)

351 I don't think her goal involved HIM at all. Not in the least. I don't think that he even existed in her reality.

Someone *else* shared a #metoo story that she had to one-up.

That. Is. All.

The notion that in all the years of Gamer Gate she NEVER mentioned him, ever, is telling. Here she is revealing the worst of patriarchal gamer oppression and she doesn't mention this guy? Why. Not. She's on the absolute top of the gamer world and dishing dirt in ever direction and she doesn't mention being stupid enough to go live with a guy because she flirted with him once? #metoo blows up over two years ago and women are coming forward and she doesn't mention it then? Too busy at the time with the new comic consultant gig and plenty of publicity without it.

Now some other chick was getting attention about some abusive behavior and Zoe Quinn needed a better story that would get even more attention.

Someone really should write a Depression Quest game (deniable) with a Zoe Quinn character (deniable) that makes bank on anti-bullying and mental health advocacy while pushing everyone around her into despair.

Posted by: Synova at September 05, 2019 04:25 PM (BD/yx)

352 I think whether she's to blame is beside the point, and not really provable. What she did was despicable whether he was mentally ill or not. In fact, she appears to have the more pernicious mental defect by far.

Posted by: bbmoe at September 05, 2019 04:32 PM (QtKCi)

353 I don't know morons. Dude's original sin, clearly, was the malfunction in his mind that resulted in attraction to Zoe Quinn.

Some pictures of her show her as cute, I guess, and poor dude wouldn't be the first guy to toss everything accept physical appearance out the window, but come on. She's one of the ground-zero data points for the psychosis that is SJWism. Not JUST SJWism, but the variety that is COMPELLED to post all SJW psychotic ramblings to social media, AND Quinn's social media following is big. ANY relationship, failed or otherwise, is going to have issues from time to time, but with this Quinn chick, you KNEW your relationship issues were going to be front-page social media for all to see.

Pro-Tip: Just like fentanyl, SJWism will kill you if you partake.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at September 05, 2019 04:46 PM (DRgs8)

354 Insty link to story about Tucker's latest niceness..."thanks Walmart for ruining rural America and now lecturing them about guns"
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 05, 2019 02:55 PM (Dr3iH)


That gives the mistaken impression that TuCa is on the side of Walmart. He's not. I saw the interview when it happened and Carlson said something like, "Walmart has a lot brass to lecture us about guns after they have destroyed competing businesses in rural America."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 05, 2019 05:00 PM (5Yee7)

355 Let me guess: he stuck his fingers in her ... HAND.

Then "led her around."

You know, like holding a door is, for some women, viciously forcing them through.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at September 05, 2019 05:08 PM (wh9C3)

356 Well Zoe is a woman and so my guess is she is a lying whore.
It's an educated guess, let's just say...

Posted by: Fred at September 05, 2019 05:09 PM (N2XjR)

357 Zoe Quinn is a vile human being, but from the account of one of his associates it sounds like Holowka had some kind of personality disorder along with some paranoid behavior. The people around him, though, knew of his repeated threats to harm himself and he had openly expressed fear that someone from his past might try to destroy his life, which his associates attributed to his paranoia, not reality.

Quinn didn't make him kill himself, but she had to have known that stigmatizing him as an abuser might end up this way.

Posted by: Johann Amadeus Metesky at September 05, 2019 05:23 PM (W8/ca)

358 1, they really need to start teaching young men 'game' in schools.

2, anyone who was willing to date zoe quinn deserves what is coming to them

Posted by: dj3way at September 05, 2019 05:59 PM (bhPL1)

359 Ace's decision to post on this incident is appropriate. There were too many engines knowingly pushing against a person with nonfalsifible statements, all the while knowing he suffered from depression. That is cruel and inhuman.

Why do I care? He was a human being who was treated cruelly for the most base and selfish reasons. That should be sufficient reason for anyone to care, regardless of politics.

Posted by: DC at September 05, 2019 07:40 PM (/TvO8)

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