A Terminator Needs a Man Like a Fish Needs a Bicycle

Uggh.

It's not that this is a feminist Terminator -- most Terminator movies (and most James Cameron movies, period) have a feminist agitprop message.

It just looks so, so dull and so done to death.

Haven't we seen a version of this several times before? Versions that didn't suck?

T2 was a good movie, but it did something that wasn't good for a Terminator series: By remaking T1's chase plot, it established the template, the rule really, that all Terminator movies must be chase movies where the Good Terminator wants to save the person and the Bad Terminator wants to kill the person.

All T2 did was add a short sidequest about killing some black asthmatic.

If T2 pushed a different kind of plot, it would have established that a lot of different things can happen in the Terminator universe, apart from one Terminator chasing a somewhat older and more Arnoldian Terminator.

Running the chase plot twice in a row set in stone the Terminator formula, and that formula, while great for two movies, gets really old and played out after six.

It was the right decision for a one-shot sequel, but the wrong decision for an ongoing series.

So here we go again. Thirty five years on, and we have another Good Terminator trying to save a person from a Bad Terminator in a chase plot.


Oh, and this Terminator can do New Tricks -- another part of the formula established with T2 and slavishly held to every since.

This one seems to be completely serious and humorless. A "dark and gritty" reboot of the Terminator franchise.

Ugh. No one wants to see that. This is all dumb lowest-common-denominator chase plot nonsense. It's basically a superhero movie, but with plainclothes.

You really think you call sell us on a "dark and gritty" nonsense superhero chase plot movie just by having an old woman growl something about "fate" every three minutes?

Hey, Terminator: The DCEU called. It says it wants its disappointing box office back.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:03 PM




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Posted by: Gref at August 30, 2019 01:04 PM (TKxWf)

2 >>So here we go again. Thirty five years on, and we have another Good Terminator trying to save a person from a Bad Terminator in a chase plot.



Such a fresh idea --- stolen from the 2nd movie!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (bDqIh)

3 First

Posted by: LGoPs former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (T6OXT)

4 I called nood

Posted by: Gref at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (TKxWf)

5 There was a time I'd of let Linda Hamilton do me.
Now...not so much.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (axyOa)

6 You had me with "dark and gritty" which is the formula for all movies of the sci-fi type.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (hLRSq)

7 First, to say that I won't be watching this movie!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (NjJUT)

8 This one seems to be completely serious and humorless


Michael Shannon has got to be in it then. His Zod in the Superman reboot fit the bill, and bored the shiznit out of me.

Terence Stamp >>> Michael Shannon

Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (786Ro)

9 Original ideas? What are those?

Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (sm6Pk)

10 I predict this will be like the many Marvel movies: endless fights between 2 being with super-human skills is BORING.

Who cares if no one breaks a sweat, no one limps, bleeds, appears exhausted, etc.?

Borg vs. borg is just as uninteresting as god vs. god, alien vs. alien, and on and on and on.
*yawn*

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (bDqIh)

11 Well, to be fair, your Terminator plot options are a bit limited by Arnold's uh, um, I guess you'd call it acting?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (jp0Bv)

12


Are you SURE that's a female?

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:07 PM (w+Z9D)

13 Meh.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 30, 2019 01:07 PM (NWiLs)

14 FATE. . .

Posted by: old woman growling at August 30, 2019 01:07 PM (786Ro)

15

Tranimator.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (w+Z9D)

16 Does it star Captain Assless Chaps unglier and less humorous sister?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (1g7ch)

17 one of the best parts of T1 was that the plot called for ordinary humans to figure out how to kill the superhuman Terminator.

But from T2 on, it's just Superman vs. The Robot Devil, over and over and over.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (Kpl3J)

18 In fairness, we probably shouldn't make up our minds until TheJamesMadison has written a 12,000-word essay on the franchise.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - if I'm posting, I'm trolling at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (FO7Ul)

19 In the video screenshot above, she looks like the astro-lesbian accused of accessing her wife's (?) bank account, from space.

What is the sex/gender of the new Terminator? Lathe/turns both ways? Hammer/does everything?

Posted by: Gref at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (TKxWf)

20 So when did she have her larynx removed and replaced with a voice simulator?

Posted by: seriously, that's an unhuman sound at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (QLhJ3)

21 If we don't make Female Terminator role models for little girls to admire and emulate, then how could any of them ever grow up to be Terminators?

Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (Q3dyo)

22 Tranimator.
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (w+Z9D)

Only if they cast Caitlyn Jennings in the lead role.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (Kpl3J)

23 The original Terminator movie was fun, even though the story was impossibly stupid and they started changing everything whenever they wanted,even in the first half of the movie, ... but there is just no Earthly excuse for anyone ever having made any sequels. ANY. They just started stretching a ridiculously impossibly illogical storyline further and further. THe mercury robot was a neat special effect, I will say ... but that's about it, and even that didn't make any sense (keeping in character with the rest of the crap).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (EcqY2)

24 T1: Man vs. Machine.

T2-T4: Man's machine vs. Machine

Last Terminator, T5: Ha! Your Man is really. . . a machine!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (bDqIh)

25 Isn't there something more effective the Terminatrix could be doing in her timeline? Like making sandwiches?

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (1+J19)

26 I'll be back

Posted by: hillary at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (d7Ww2)

27 I think the proper term, Ace, is Terminatrix.

Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (Q3dyo)

28 oh goodie!

another blockbuster movie i will never watch.

Huck Follywood.

and all the assholes who w*rk in it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (6E6gM)

29
I'll be back!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (pNxlR)

30

The cyborg is fully functional and versed in over 1,000 different sexual techniques.

Not one of which would appeal to a normal heterosexual man.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (w+Z9D)

31 ... but there is just no Earthly excuse for anyone ever having made any sequels.

Sorry, gramps, but there's a reason why T2 was so popular.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (7s3Gx)

32
Yet
another of the endless sequels and a PC POS no doubt.

Posted by: Vic at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (mpXpK)

33 Sorry, gramps, but there's a reason why T2 was so popular.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (7s3Gx)


Because people have no taste.

I'm well aware ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (EcqY2)

34 Here's another true story. I was 12 years old when I heard about the
death of Martin Luther King Jr. Great statesman. Guy got shot for
selling cigarettes on a St. Louis street corner in 1983. By police. This
is a true story as I stand in front of you. I went to comfort my mother
because she was upset. Turns out she smoked the same brand he got
killed for. Camelback Smokes they were. True story.


Came in
packs of 47. I remember them like it was yesterday. Smelled like Pine
Sol. And she told me I don't want you're damn comfort! He died! He
DIED!!!! And she said now go put President Obama on the TV, Charlie.
Because he's gonna speak and want to hear it. We all wanted to hear it.
Then the Spaceship Discovery exploded and we lost Captain Picard too.
1995 was not a good year.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (CrNzI)

35 25 Isn't there something more effective the Terminatrix...
Posted by: t-bird

27 I think the proper term, Ace, is Terminatrix.
Posted by: zombie


Beat me to the punch by ten seconds!

Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (Q3dyo)

36 horde mind at work again

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (d7Ww2)

37
Hey! That's okay!


Come see me! I'm fun and exciting and don't contain any feminist agitpro-

....

....

Goddammit.

*kicks dirt*

*wanders off muttering*

Posted by: Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (mIQCW)

38 I actually thought T2 was better than T1, a rare thing.

Posted by: Vic at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (mpXpK)

39 On the bright side :


New Terminator Pinball?

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (T42ki)

40

From the same Commiewood that wants to ban guns

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (ekmlY)

41 Because people have no taste.

I'm well aware ...


Yeah, you kids get off my lawn.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (7s3Gx)

42 Terence Stamp >>> Michael Shannon
Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (786Ro)

Omg, Terence Stamp was a great Zod...

I've never seen a Terminator film (just excerpts here and there). Won't see this one.

And the shemale terminator is Dolf Lundgren in "drag"?

Dunno.

Posted by: Potato salad for brains at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (B5K06)

43 terminator had a great story

terminator 2 had a good story and great fx

twins had a good story and humor

kindergarten cop had a story and some really very cute and funny scenes

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (Pg+x7)

44 Michael Shannon would have been a good Zod in another movie by another director.

Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (llxrS)

45 Joe Biden,

Brilliant.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (PbpT7)

46 39 New Terminator Pinball?
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (T42ki)

Is Steve Ritchie still...

...wait, stupid question, he just made Black Knight : Sword of Rage.

Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (sm6Pk)

47 Maybe they can save it if arnold has a monologue that begins... "I have seen things you people..."

Posted by: Potato salad for brains at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (B5K06)

48 "When Terminators Grow Old": starring President Joe Biden

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (6E6gM)

49 Triple blade light saber = new more advanced Terminator

Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (llxrS)

50 31 ... but there is just no Earthly excuse for anyone ever having made any sequels.

Sorry, gramps, but there's a reason why T2 was so popular.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (7s3Gx)


And Aliens. But T3 and beyond, and Alien 3 or whatever it was called, and beyond, were sequels too far.

Posted by: Gref at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (TKxWf)

51 gross. arnie is in it.

Posted by: trapper's girl at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (tU1YH)

52 I think they did call the female Terminator in T3 the Terminatrix in promotional stuff.

In the movie, her designation was "TX," which plainly suggests Terminatrix.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (PbpT7)

53 Terminator 16: Parking Enforcement

"Come on man, let me put another quarter in the meter!"
"No, you are over the two hour time limit."
"This is a rip-off, I'm just going to drive aw-accckkk!" *chokes out*
"You have been impounded."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (hLRSq)

54 Terminator movies aren't high Shakespearean art. I'll watch this one when it come to TV.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (aS1PU)

55 "Your clothes. Gif them to me. Now."

I always give credit T1 for my various pickup lines.

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (vkS2Z)

56 46 ...wait, stupid question, he just made Black Knight : Sword of Rage.
Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (sm6Pk)

And by that, I meant _I_ was about to ask a stupid question.

Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (sm6Pk)

57 Not one of which would appeal to a normal heterosexual man.
Posted by: imp
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Normal heterosexuality is a tool of white supremacy.

Posted by: SJW at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (CDGwz)

58 no. just no.

what next? Back in Black to the Future!

Posted by: Mallfly The Georgia Peach at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (ZqRa6)

59 T1: Man vs. Machine.



T2-T4: Man's machine vs. Machine



Last Terminator, T5: Ha! Your Man is really. . . a machine Xir!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (bDqIh)



SJWed it for you

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (ekmlY)

60 I'm in the minority, I guess, in that I've always hated T2. I don't think Hamilton looks hot in it, so much as like a sack of gristle. Edward Furlong shrieking his way from scene to scene is annoying. Shitty Guns & Roses song.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - if I'm posting, I'm trolling at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (FO7Ul)

61 Now I needto go out and move oak cuts to the place we're going to split them.

I'll be back. (Sorry...)

Posted by: Potato salad for brains at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (B5K06)

62 Considering the end, there can be only one Good Terminator.

Me.

Posted by: Brie Larson at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (DMUuz)

63 My problem with the sequels is that the story was complete after the first one. There was nowhere to go plot wise. They had to make up a new random thing to explain how there could even be another Terminator.

Posted by: Abzod at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (P/aDH)

64
T3 was not great, yet, if you watch the credits, you will find GORGRP, Global Operational Resources Group, credited for stuff, technical pew and boom and medical training stuff.

That was my firm. My only fame.

TLez looks like a stinker.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (UFLLM)

65 >>Is Steve Ritchie still...

>>...wait, stupid question, he just made Black Knight : Sword of Rage.


I want to play that thing!

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (T42ki)

66
I haven't been in a theater in 25 years. Do movies still have plots and character development or is it just interchangeable cardboard characters, weapons, explosions and CGI?

Everyone talks about the stifling Hays Code, but there were a lot of great, sophisticated movies made back then.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (Wx/+I)

67 I'm just here for the GILF.

Posted by: motionview at August 30, 2019 01:15 PM (pYQR/)

68 >>>I'm in the minority, I guess, in that I've always hated T2. I don't think Hamilton looks hot in it, so much as like a sack of gristle. Edward Furlong shrieking his way from scene to scene is annoying. Shitty Guns & Roses song.

I always preferred the first one. Though the second one had very good VFX and action.

The first one, though, had a better story and more, um, emotion. It was also a cleaner plot, whereas the second one added sidequests and unnecessary complications just to hide the fact that it was a remake of the first one.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:15 PM (PbpT7)

69 All chase movies bore the hell out of me.

Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2019 01:15 PM (nRWPy)

70 ... "it's not a tum-ah" only works with the german accent. in standard american english it falls flat. try it.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (Pg+x7)

71 Thought experiment:

Travel back in time and remake Terminator 3 to save the franchise. What is the plot?

Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (llxrS)

72 to be fair, T2 mixed it up and 'subverted expectations' (buzzword of the moment) and made you think the skinny wiry guy was a human sent to save John while Arnold was the bad guy. again.

the obsessive YouTubers that examine every single frame of a trailer and do everything to figure out the entire plot before release didn't exist back then, so it was still a surprise for some people.

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (RKQ/v)

73 Ace, you forgot that someone also has to say "Come with me if you want to live" at some point.

Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (+UfAd)

74 From the same Commiewood that wants to ban guns
Posted by: TheQuietMan
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See: Liam Neeson

Posted by: SJW at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (CDGwz)

75 The end credits of "22 Jump Street" should *not* be seen as an inspiration for endless sequels, Hollywood!

https://tinyurl.com/jl549x3

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (bDqIh)

76 I only saw the original Terminator.

I did play the T2 Pinball, though. A lot.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (T42ki)

77 All chase movies bore the hell out of me.
Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2019 01:15 PM (

Apocalypto?

Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (+UfAd)

78 "I haven't been in a theater in 25 years. Do movies still have plots and character development or is it just interchangeable cardboard characters, weapons, explosions and CGI?"

Did you see the way that space raccoon blew up Saturn? Who knew he could work a hypersonic plasma torpedo launcher on that starfighter?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (hLRSq)

79 Well, at least we're not talking about Marvel!

Posted by: Sock Monkey..reprise at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (VlLK5)

80 "Your clothes. Gif them to me. Now."

More evidence of the evils of the pantsriarchy!

Posted by: Beinghood of SJW Workers, Local AoSHQ at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (DMUuz)

81 ....aaaaand, sock off.

'Bye for now.

Posted by: Flyover at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (B5K06)

82 -
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it established the template, the rule really, that all Terminator movies must be chase movies

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We find this all quite flattering.


Posted by: Tom and Jerry at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (pMGkg)

83 Apocalypto?

Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (+UfAd)


Not a chase movie.

Dirty Mary and Crazy Larry -

chase movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (EcqY2)

84
T1: Great, with an underlying creepiness that really made the film.

T2: Good adventure film, although Ed Furlong's acting was worse than Arnie's.

T3: Loken's inflatable tits, and a neat twist ending. Otherwise forgettable.

T4: Has more A-10 Warthog BRRRRRRRT! than any other film I've seen. Otherwise, it stinks.

T5: Steaming pile of rancid monkey crap. Proves that the dragon chick from GoT is worthless in anything but that one role.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (veoSD)

85 Men in Black III was a well done finale, but I'm no movie critic and its probably not a finale.

Posted by: simplemind at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (9GqpF)

86 I don't think Hamilton looks hot in it, so much as like a sack of gristle.

I also thought she was far cuter in T1, but the relentless evil of Robert Patrick's character made me like both T movies.

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (cfSLd)

87 Skynet gets woke with the LGBT 1000.

Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (cGlgB)

88 Apocalypto?

Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (+UfAd)

Is that a movie? A chase movie? Then yes.

Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (nRWPy)

89 I see the brothers that, ... strike that, the brother and sister that, ... wait, no, ... the sisters that made the Matrix are making a Matrix 4 now.

Posted by: bananaDream at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (l6b3d)

90 90 pound waifs that look and act like humorless soulless caricatures of tough men instead of how actual tough women act are TIGHT.

Posted by: ... at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (CrNzI)

91
That was my firm. My only fame.

TLez looks like a stinker.
Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate
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I worked for the company that made the video monitors used to create the early CGI stuff for TRON.

Posted by: SJW at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (CDGwz)

92 I have T1 on one of those Panasonic laser disks and T2 on a DVD. My Panasonic laser disk player is upstairs where all my laser disks are. I need to get T1 on a widescreen DVD or a Blueray. The widescreen DVD is only $5 so I should get it on the next order.

Posted by: Vic at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (mpXpK)

93 Dammit. /SJW

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (CDGwz)

94 Can Peter North manage one last Terminator Parody Porn?

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (T42ki)

95 Speaking of gritty DCEU, I'm waiting for a gritty Wonder Twin movie where the twin that turns shit into ice just makes giant ice dildos and fucks everyone is the ass hard because that is gritty and shit.

Posted by: Shtetl G at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (16cUT)

96 Well, at least we're not talking about Marvel!

That sends me off to other internet areas. Too dorky for me. Shudder.

Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (nRWPy)

97 Willowed:

Whoops, I meant where should I look for the Munk video? Damn clipboard

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https://youtu.be/0z-eZIsLHAo?t=2191

Simon Schama digs a hole, then Steyn shoves him in it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (2JpPM)

98 I like two things: giving blowjobs and free public Internet at the library!!!!

Posted by: Cum-Dumpster Kurt at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (IiFob)

99 Seems like the SJW crowd would make a Terminator with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (mvenn)

100 FATE . . .

Posted by: old woman growling at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (786Ro)

101
tbf, it doesn't matter if a killer robot takes the form of a heavyweight boxer, a waif, or even a kitten. It's a killer robot. And I wouldn't want to take on a killer robot kitten that has to take a pill.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (7OILk)

102 Saw T2 the first day of release. Theater packed. First scene when the kids in the playground get nuked. Theater is dead silent. Not a sound. Then one guy in the front lets out a "Whoah!" Whole theater breaks out laughing.

Posted by: Floyd of Rosedale at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (O6DoG)

103 Apocalypto isn't a chase movie? How on Earth not?

Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (+UfAd)

104 Dora the explorer gets chased by hispanic terminator.

Posted by: tommylotto at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (dYinJ)

105 I'm waiting for a gritty Wonder Twin movie where the
twin that turns shit into ice just makes giant ice dildos and fucks
everyone is the ass hard because that is gritty and shit.


Posted by: Shtetl G

OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE

Posted by: Shemp Smith at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (UFLLM)

106 Terminator 7: In the Groove

She'll Be Black

Posted by: ... at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (CrNzI)

107 And Aliens. But T3 and beyond, and Alien 3 or whatever it was called, and beyond, were sequels too far.

That's pretty much where I draw the line as well. For example, a fair chunk of the special effects/drama in T3, like the crane smashing multiple buildings, don't begin to pass the smell test.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (7s3Gx)

108 I didn't even mind T3. Arnold called himself an obsolete design, fighting a vastly superior (and cuter) model. Do I care about female protagonist Terminator? Hell no.

Enjoy young women queuing up for your action schlock, Hollywood. I thought you people liked money?

Posted by: trev006 at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (HOhHO)

109 T1 was good because it was also a Love Story, Kyle Reese comes back in time because he fell in love with a Picture and he would do anything to protect her. I love that he even had flash backs of fighting the Machines when trying to sleep.

T2 I was rooting for the Robots to shoot the Kid was so annoying.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (dKiJG)

110 Can Peter North manage one last Terminator Parody Porn?
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM


You do know I'm Canadian, eh?

Posted by: Peter North at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (DMUuz)

111 I remember like it was just this morning: They built the Berlin Wall to end that Korean War. I said at the time, "How is keepin' out immigrants gonna end a war? A wall ain't no solution!" I said this to Haldeman and Erlichmann personally. But did they listen? No. I'm tellin' the truth, then and now. We sent some Hollywood types out there, the actors, the stars, we sent them, and they did their best, God bless 'em. But as I stand in front of you right now I promise, we will never build another wall!

Posted by: Joe Biden, on a good day at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (Q3dyo)

112 I see the brothers that, ... strike that, the brother and sister that, ... wait, no, ... the sisters that made the Matrix are making a Matrix 4 now.

Posted by: bananaDream at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (l6b3d)


THey actually changed their names in the credits for old movies, that they had not done with their tranny names.

These people are all crazy. You don't change someone's name in old credits. That's worse than Soviet statue dropping crap. They actually had to go out of their way to change those names. How weird. And stupid.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (EcqY2)

113 I, for one, look forward to the androgyny of the new T-whatever in the series, movie.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (qC1Sy)

114 25 Isn't there something more effective the Terminatrix could be doing in her timeline? Like making sandwiches?
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Loving, nurturing gynobots with working lady parts are found in anime. I really like anime.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (W+kMI)

115 I just eliminate any movie now where the chic whips everyone's ass.

Saves a ton on movie tickets and streaming fees.

Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (VLjz7)

116 I have T1 on one of those Panasonic laser disks and T2 on a DVD.

I had T2 on laserdisc, but eventually the player gave it up. On to blu-ray...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (7s3Gx)

117 76 I did play the T2 Pinball, though. A lot.
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (T42ki)

I threw money at the Kickstarter for FarSight to put T2 Pinball in The Pinball Arcade for Steam a couple years back.

Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (sm6Pk)

118 it's a comedy, with action.


All the sci-fi stuff needs vulnerable machines, when really, it would be more like iron-man ... where the bad guys hold the hostages, and his rockets take out all the bad guys at once, almost instantly. (and that would be "old tech" in T5 times)


Why would a robot so advanced allow a human to even get close with a gun? It would kill them in an instant from 100 (1000?) yards. Or it sends out a 100 little drones and kills everyone in an instant. Or how about laser tech ... we already have that ... it could just laser every target through the eyeball in an instant. But they need the action and drama, so that doesn't work.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (Cus5s)

119 Geez Ace, you're reminding how pissed I was when Fox cancelled The Sarah Connor Chronicles. That series had promise.

Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (786Ro)

120 Loving, nurturing gynobots with working lady parts are found in anime. I really like anime.
Posted by: exdem13 at August

CoughAlitacough

Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (+UfAd)

121 52 I think they did call the female Terminator in T3 the Terminatrix in promotional stuff.

In the movie, her designation was "TX," which plainly suggests Terminatrix.

Posted by: ace


Or "Trixie" for short.

Posted by: Joe Biden, on a good day at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (Q3dyo)

122 Sarah Connor sounds like she's smoked a few thousand packs of cigarettes.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (O8WFE)

123 Imagine listening to that sweet voice telling you to empty the garbage...Death first.

Posted by: nip at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (DfGpI)

124 Who had Comment 98 in the "someone shit on the carpet, oh no wait, that's not someone, that's actual shit and it just took its own shit and I think now that shit is taking a shit, whoa that's so weird" pool?

Posted by: ... at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (CrNzI)

125 I would like a simple post apocalypse story, with people that don't know what is going on. Perhaps someone's s family is captured and forced to work as slave labor setting up a machine making plant and they rescuing.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 30, 2019 01:24 PM (/Njku)

126 And I wouldn't want to take on a killer robot kitten that has to take a pill.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (7OILk)


Been done. "The Toonce-nator."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

127 Apocalypto isn't a chase movie? How on Earth not?

Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (+UfAd)


Chasing is only part of the movie. Less than half. More like a quarter.

We've got labeling standards, here.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:24 PM (EcqY2)

128 These people are all crazy. You don't change someone's name in old credits.

Even wikipedia lists someone named 'Bruce Jenner' as the winner of the '76 decathlon.

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (gHCnG)

129 Yawn

Posted by: Don Q at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (NgKpN)

130


They already did a bad chick Terminator, and she was really good. I mean, a hot Terminator...wild.

And Salvation was not that bad a movie, I enjoyed it, it had a story to tell and the effects were cool. We needed to know more about what life would be like.

But NOOOOooooooooooo....

We get Lesbonator Wokinator with Linda Hamilton dressed as a dude all manly and shit.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (z8c2c)

131 >>I threw money at the Kickstarter for FarSight to put T2 Pinball in The Pinball Arcade for Steam a couple years back.


Guessing that's some sort of simulator?

I am 29, you know...

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (T42ki)

132 I don't believe Lauren Bacall would find much work in Tinseltown these days.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (FTlwv)

133 Looks like this won't be the movie that breaks my 10 year fast on movies.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (pw+jk)

134 the only twist that could even remotely make it interesting again is if the machines were coming back to save a human, rather than kill him.

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (RKQ/v)

135 The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit.


What do they want to do?

Ask the woke and broke state of Illinois for money.

Oh that and build a casino.

Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (MAstk)

136 Was in Atlanta and I watched T2 with my Brothers and when we lined up for movie the next line over was for BOYS IN THE HOOD and my brother says Oh yeah they had a shooting when rival gangs went to see BOYS IN THE HOOD, we didn't know it the guns shots where from the Movie or from the next movie Theater.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (dKiJG)

137 There is no fate but what you make.

LOLOL just kidding judgement day happens anyway just a few years late.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 30, 2019 01:26 PM (oZ6kz)

138

Apocalypto isn't a chase movie? How on Earth not?
Posted by: Vanya


No kidding! That's quite literally 2/3 of the entire movie. Then you have the awesome reconstruction of Tenochtitlan and the hearts getting ripped out while beating (realistically), it was one of the best movies ever made from a set, costume, and effects standpoint.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:26 PM (w+Z9D)

139 potatoe salad....mmmmmm

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at August 30, 2019 01:26 PM (9FQSz)

140 The best thing to come out of the terminator movies and really any Schwarzenegger movie is the band Austrian Death Machine. My go to music now for when I'm working deep in the bowels of Nastran input decks and so forth.

Posted by: bananaDream at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (l6b3d)

141 The only good Terminator movie was the first one.

It was also a sandwich as well as a floor wax.

FIGHT ME!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (6qa8a)

142 I saw T2 in Germany, dubbed into German.

It was weird. First, someone who is not Ahnold was reading Ahnold lines. He did not have sufficient testosterone.

Second, part of what makes the Terminator sound alien is that Ahnold can't speak English. So you had a 160 lb guy speaking German, with a German accent, which doesn't sound at all jarring in German.

They should have hired a Russian or something.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (fuK7c)

143 The problem is the whole premise of the story is on time travel. Nothing makes sense or the not contradicting with that.

Posted by: Mark in Sandy UT at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (DTI8p)

144 Oh that and build a casino.
Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM


For which all 5 of the proposed locations are in the 'hood.

Posted by: The Mayor of Chicago at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (DMUuz)

145

How about if Aliens land and eat all the Terminators? And then the Humans?

Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (UFLLM)

146 Terminator 8 : I Think I Broke My Hip

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (4e+hS)

147
Ace doesn't like Hollywood after being ejected as a screenwriter

Posted by: Kurt at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (IiFob)






Of course. Hollywood fucked up big time when they rejected the script for Saffron: Intergalactic Space Whore. That would have been money in the bank, with a capital Mammary.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (veoSD)

148 OK things I cannot get over in movies are physical mass problems.


One scene in the trailer a T splits into two T's of the same size. Where did all that extra Mass come from?

Another scene, the 90 lb scrawny terminator girl is swings a huge chain that must weigh more than her, or at least the same if she is some kind of secret unobtanium metal. How can she spin that chain so fast and not fling herself across the room?


Whats it all magic and stuff?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (ymnmz)

149 Actiony movie looks actiony.

I have a feeling it will deliver on that level.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (iikV8)

150
The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit.

What do they want to do?


Federalize it. Do you want all those poor retirees to starve, you heartless, greedy Teabagger?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (Wx/+I)

151


Hmm, that trailer didn't need the dumb joke at the end.

Can they stop with that crap.

Had some cool moments.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (z8c2c)

152 I don't believe Lauren Bacall would find much work in Tinseltown these days.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (FTlwv)


Amen. "To Have And To Have Not" was on the other day. The "you know how to whistle" scene is steaming.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (aS1PU)

153 Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (MAstk)

The State should respond by disincorporating the city government, placing CPD under the State police and FIRING EVERYONE. The city is run by imbeciles. They literally sold all the parking meters a few years ago for lump sum cash--talk about eating your seed corn.

Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (+UfAd)

154 I've got your potatoe salad....right here.

*sticks out fungi feet*

Posted by: Matt Groeing at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (9FQSz)

155

'"The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit. "

Can we get a billion!

Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (z8c2c)

156 The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit.
=====

Froggy went a courtin' and she did ride, hmmm hmmm . . .

Between Ms Froggy and Mr Toad there is not a lot of room for citizens in their little swamp.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (MIKMs)

157 148 OK things I cannot get over in movies are physical mass problems.


One scene in the trailer a T splits into two T's of the same size. Where did all that extra Mass come from?

Another scene, the 90 lb scrawny terminator girl is swings a huge chain that must weigh more than her, or at least the same if she is some kind of secret unobtanium metal. How can she spin that chain so fast and not fling herself across the room?


Whats it all magic and stuff?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (ymnmz)

========

I think about that sometimes.

"Not the real world" should be enough. "I'd never write that" is something else that I think.

But yeah, Bruce Banner becoming a giant rage monster without massive caloric intake instead realistic, but neither is a giant green rage monster.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (iikV8)

158 ... from the trailer it looks like arnold plays a human, maybe a scientist, and hamilton has to kill him to stop him from making terminators that look and sound like him for sky net, and he understands.

i suggested arnold as the scientist who makes terminators (why would it have a german accent in t1?) for skynet for one of the sequels (post governorship) and someone said it was a storyline in a terminator book, though not one of the movies.

in any case, just a guess.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (Pg+x7)

159
T1, T2, T3, T4, T5

2019: Low T -- consult your endocrinologist, Dark Fate

Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (786Ro)

160 Surprised at how short the review is.

Posted by: JAS at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (dT9VH)

161 Billy Kristol starring in "Buffenator the Golden Coral Years"

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (pw+jk)

162 How many timelines are they up to now? And is it possible to time jump to the future? Terminators is space might be cool.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (4e+hS)

163 6 You had me with "dark and gritty" which is the formula for all movies of the sci-fi type.
===
Yeah, yeah, ALL the sci-fi is dark and gritty any more. It's like Hollywood gave up on any possibility of a future where Humanity is prospering in a bright and shiny starfaring technowonk culture. You want to impress me Hollywood, make "Red Planet", "Tunnel in the Sky" or "The Rolling Stones". Hey, one of the anime I'm watching this series has a number of story parallels to "Tunnel in the Sky". I really like anime.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (W+kMI)

164 Second, part of what makes the Terminator sound alien is that Ahnold can't speak English.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (fuK7c)


But he spoke perfect AMerican English on the radio when he mimicked that cop he had just killed. He hears the guy for two seconds and can totally copy his American voice and sound but then goes back to his unbelievably broken English for the rest of the movie.

This is part of what I was talking about with the ridiculous storyline they wove. You can put this sort of shit off for 1 movie and enjoy the action ... but only for 1 movie. You can't make sequels out of crap like this.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (EcqY2)

165 >>>149 Actiony movie looks actiony.

I have a feeling it will deliver on that level.

...

sure if you like dark and muddy images which hide inferior VFX

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (PbpT7)

166 Isn't John Connor eligible for Social Security by now?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (Jk+3L)

167 '"The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit. "

If lucky, Hurricane Dora or whatever it is will hit ChiTown and they can file for all that sweet tax money relief.

Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (UFLLM)

168


Some people age and start to look like chimpanzees.

Sarah Conor looks like a chimp!

Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (z8c2c)

169 *sticks out fungi feet*
Posted by: Matt Groeing at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM


Dude. This kind of reference is not why we come here!

Posted by: Quentin T. at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (DMUuz)

170 >>>2019: Low T -- consult your endocrinologist, Dark Fate


hah, that's a good one. I might just call it "Low T" from now on.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (PbpT7)

171 Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (+UfAd)



Problem is the state is just as bad if not worse.

Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (MAstk)

172 165 >>>149 Actiony movie looks actiony.

I have a feeling it will deliver on that level.

...

sure if you like dark and muddy images which hide inferior VFX
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (PbpT7)

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Earlish pass stuff. We almost never see final VFX in trailers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (iikV8)

173 A movie thread? Another fing movie thread?
I'm gonna go peal some potatoes.

Posted by: Beatle Bailey at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (WSVNe)

174 What they seem to be doing in this film is similar to the twats who installed fierce girl in front of the running bull statue near wall street.


Oh and I've heard the John Conner get whacked 5 minutes into the film and the hispanic girl becomes "the one"


Also one of the cringey things in the trailor is Linda Hamilton saying, "I'll be back!"


It's probably the most forced line in movie history.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (88mwq)

175 >>>Earlish pass stuff. We almost never see final VFX in trailers.


we see that the images are dark and muddy

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (PbpT7)

176
Kurt doesn't like capitalism after failing as a Dow index analyst.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (2JpPM)

177 >>The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit.
What do they want to do?


They should call up de Blasio's wife - I've heard she misplaced $850 million, so maybe she could find it and send it their way?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (bDqIh)

178 134 the only twist that could even remotely make it interesting again is if the machines were coming back to save a human, rather than kill him.
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (RKQ/v)

* The human they would want to save is Ob+mao*

so no. Just send the machines to Chicago.

Posted by: Matt Groeing at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (9FQSz)

179 Big news last week in the Michael Mann hockey stick legal cases- his case against Tim Ball in Canada was dismissed and he was ordered to pay Tim's legal fees.

Might be worth a post.


Posted by: Dogstar at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (wUGui)

180
Anne of Green Gables: The Bitch is Loose. With boobs, guns and car chases.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (Wx/+I)

181 148 OK things I cannot get over in movies are physical mass problems.


One scene in the trailer a T splits into two T's of the same size. Where did all that extra Mass come from?

Another scene, the 90 lb scrawny terminator girl is swings a huge chain that must weigh more than her, or at least the same if she is some kind of secret unobtanium metal. How can she spin that chain so fast and not fling herself across the room?


Whats it all magic and stuff?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless


I agree. it's not some complicated "laws of physics" that are routinely being violated, but really basic conservation of momentum and mass. All the time in most of these movies.

Also, it happens in kung fu movies (and movies with kung fu fights) all the time too. Some 100-lb Asian guy standing stock still will put a "Buddha's Hand" strike on a 280-pound baddies chest and sending him flying backwards through a brick wall. Etc. Yeah.

Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (Q3dyo)

182 I disliked, or maybe was just disappointed by, T2. T1 had been original; you never knew what was going to happen; the heroes were human, the villain not; and the dialog sparkled and crackled. T2, as you say, ace, was pretty much a chase sequence, and it lacked that zip that the first had.

So I haven't seen any of the others. Why do we need a "dark and gritty" reboot? The first film was pretty darn gritty all by itself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (ClOmq)

183 Kurt doesn't like capitalism after failing as a Dow index analyst.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (2JpPM)


Heh.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (aS1PU)

184 The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit.


What do they want to do?

Ask the woke and broke state of Illinois for money.

Oh that and build a casino.
Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM

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800 million?

That's nothing.

The Chicago PD, Chicago Fire, and Chicago Teachers Pension Plans are short a few BILLION dollars.

Posted by: rd at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (EK+Pw)

185 Propaganda is always dull and lifeless.

Having said that, I'll give a lot of credit to T2 in that the Hamilton character didn't feel forced. Like the movie Alien with Ripley I never heard anyone grousing about how unbelievable it was that some chick was acting like a fighter.

The stuff now is so forced and so clunky and lol that I simply refuse to partake.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (j3npP)

186 if this is a movie thread, watch "The Void" (2016 or 17). good old fashioned John Carpenter style body horror.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (NHx/I)

187 >>Oh and I've heard the John Conner get whacked 5 minutes into the film and the hispanic girl becomes "the one"



Whaaaaaat?!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (bDqIh)

188 The T-1000 was a good friend of mine. When we lost Fonzy in that tragic boating accident, the T-1000 turned and said to me, now this is a true story, he said to me now I know why you cry. When I asked him why, he told me you shut up now sir and stop asking questions. Because he died. He DIED!! Fonzy was dead and no one was gonna bring him back. Not President Jimmy Carter or his wife Nell who was on a little show you might have heard of called Gimme a Break. Me and the Terminator cried for days until the Taco Bell we ordered came. Tell you the truth I didn't even want tacos anymore. True story.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (CrNzI)

189 okay, maybe been asked already, but did I see bad Terminator in the trailer in a Border Patrol uniform, then a fight in detention-cage area?
Is the girl who "IS" Sarah Connor Latinx?
Please tell me there is not some cosmic illegal alien subplot?

Posted by: barbarausa at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (W7IZQ)

190 181 I agree. it's not some complicated "laws of physics" that are routinely being violated, but really basic conservation of momentum and mass. All the time in most of these movies.

Also, it happens in kung fu movies (and movies with kung fu fights) all the time too. Some 100-lb Asian guy standing stock still will put a "Buddha's Hand" strike on a 280-pound baddies chest and sending him flying backwards through a brick wall. Etc. Yeah.
Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (Q3dyo)

=========

I don't think many kung fu movies pretend to be realistic. You've got to take the rules of the universe of each movie as they come, allow for suspension of disbelief.

No, the little guy easily wailing on the big guy isn't realistic, but it can be fun which is often the sole goal of those kinds of movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (iikV8)

191 >>>187 >>Oh and I've heard the John Conner get whacked 5 minutes into the film and the hispanic girl becomes "the one"



Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy

i heard that too.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (PbpT7)

192 With all the talk about it stemming from the new Joker movie, I rewatched King of Comedy. It's great and it holds up really well. I'd love to see a RLM Re:View of it. It's on Amazon Prime.

Posted by: Xander Crews at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (miXS6)

193 191 >>>187 >>Oh and I've heard the John Conner get whacked 5 minutes into the film and the hispanic girl becomes "the one"



Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy

i heard that too.
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (PbpT7)
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Something to look forward to, then.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (qC1Sy)

194 Terminator Salvation already did the dark and gritty. It was supposed to be a quest movie, but really was a chase movie.

Posted by: Iblis at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (9221z)

195 i guess we shouldnt wait up looking for Blurt' s take on the Riemann Hypothesis either.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (NHx/I)

196 11 Well, to be fair, your Terminator plot options are a bit limited by Arnold's uh, um, I guess you'd call it acting?
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 30, 2019


*
*

The story I've always heard is that Cameron wanted him to play Reese, the human soldier. He said, no; I want to play the Terminator. Now whether that was because it was the title role, because he knew that all eyes and minds would be focused on that character onscreen or off, or because he knew his acting skills were not that great, I don't know.

But he made the right call.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (ClOmq)

197
'"The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit. "





At least they have a black, lesbian mayor. That makes it all better

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (B79RR)

198 so not fair


you east coasters are already on the downhill side, coasting to a three day weekend, half in the bag and getting high as fuck

it's 1030 here on the west coast.

fuck all yall

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)

199 The Feminator? Does she at least have a nice ass?

Posted by: ShainS -- in registry of disreputable federal law-abiding commenters at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (vvKa3)

200 Why do you think the Obama's $15 million mansion was not in Chicago?


They didn't choose the Vineyard just to get away from POC.


It was tax evasion too.

Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (MAstk)

201 191 >>>187 >>Oh and I've heard the John Conner get whacked 5 minutes into the film and the hispanic girl becomes "the one"



Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy

i heard that too.
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (PbpT7)

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If they are continuing with the idea that "there is no fate but what me make for ourselves", the idea of needing John Conner becomes moot. John Conner himself isn't the one fated to stop Skynet, the survivors can make their own fate.

Oh, and yeah, it's done for grrlpower. I don't disagree. Just noting that it can fit thematically.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (iikV8)

202 THE WUTHERING

Catherine's back and she. is. pissed



Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (O8WFE)

203 Please tell me there is not some cosmic illegal alien subplot?
Posted by: barbarausa at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (W7IZQ)


No, that was Aliens. The douchy corporate guy was trying to smuggle some aliens back in Newt and Ripley.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (aS1PU)

204 >>>If they are continuing with the idea that "there is no fate but what me make for ourselves", the idea of needing John Conner becomes moot. John Conner himself isn't the one fated to stop Skynet, the survivors can make their own fate.


no because the new girl is the new sarah connor who will give birth to the next john connor

there is Fate indeed -- it's called "repetition of previous plots"

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (PbpT7)

205 it's 1030 here on the west coast.

fuck all yall
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)


Going in at 4PM, working all weekend out of a suitcase.

Feel better ?

Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (VLjz7)

206
Another scene, the 90 lb scrawny terminator girl is swings a huge chain that must weigh more than her, or at least the same if she is some kind of secret unobtanium metal. How can she spin that chain so fast and not fling herself across the room?


Whats it all magic and stuff?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless

======

Well, ants can haul more than their own weight I think. Could be a myth.

But isn't Terminator Girl a robot anyway, and doesn't need to accomplish feats with bones and sinews and store energy in mere muscles? Maybe I should watch the trailer...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (13CQC)

207

>>Oh and I've heard the John Conner get whacked 5 minutes into the film and the hispanic girl becomes "the one"



Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy


Just like Thor being the Portman little bint, Iron man getting her vagina steamed, and every other thing in the goddamned entertainment universe being changed to some preferably minority girl to cater to an audience that does not exist.

Twitter is the death knell of civilization.

As wiser men than me have said, "Your opinion is just not that good. Maybe you shouldn't publicize it."

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (w+Z9D)

208 196
The story I've always heard is that Cameron wanted him to play Reese, the human soldier. He said, no; I want to play the Terminator. Now whether that was because it was the title role, because he knew that all eyes and minds would be focused on that character onscreen or off, or because he knew his acting skills were not that great, I don't know.

But he made the right call.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (ClOmq)

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I think there are a couple of conflicting stories around.

The one I know is that Lance Henrickson was slotted to play the Terminator then Cameron found Arnold and just knew he'd make a great bad guy.

The idea behind Lance being the Terminator (easily hidden in plain sight) got reused in T2 with the T1000 played by Robert Patrick.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (iikV8)

209 I figured Arnold had the Austrian accent because it is intimidating, and his Terminator model was there to beat up humans and kill them.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (NHx/I)

210 '"The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit. "

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Well the taxpayers are just going to have to tighten their belt, do with out some things and not live like they used to so the union members can live better. We owe it to those noble public employees. They do so much for us all.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (pw+jk)

211 >>Oh, and yeah, it's done for grrlpower. I don't disagree. Just noting that it can fit thematically.


Just as James Bond can die and his "007" designation can be re-assigned to a black, female agent . . .but that sure as Hell doesn't make her Bond.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (bDqIh)

212 Oh, and yeah, it's done for grrlpower. I don't disagree. Just noting that it can fit thematically.

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Terminator was ahead of its time with its girl power, now its just of its time.

Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (sX1BW)

213
If they are continuing with the idea that "there is no fate but what me make for ourselves", the idea of needing John Conner becomes moot. John Conner himself isn't the one fated to stop Skynet, the survivors can make their own fate.

Oh, and yeah, it's done for grrlpower. I don't disagree. Just noting that it can fit thematically.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (iikV

While technically consistent with the constantly undermined theme, it kind of wrecks the premise of the prior movies. I don't know that they ever really supported the theme before tbh, it was just something they said while seemingly stuck in a time loop sort of affair.

Posted by: Someguy at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (4i8PS)

214 I'd rather see Pluto Nash 2 with Randy Quaid becoming a terminator.

Posted by: x at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (nFwvY)

215 This new evil war command called Sprace Command is a joke and a waste of money. Thats monee shoulds go to help gay and lesbian children of coler from weird peeple like republitards tring too say they are not normil.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Obamaboro, VT and proud of it !!!! at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (qM84C)

216 187 >>Oh and I've heard the John Conner get whacked 5 minutes into the film and the hispanic girl becomes "the one"



Whaaaaaat?!


Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (bDqIh)


She and her wise-cracking space raccoon sidekick send a Federation heavy cruiser into the planet killer causing Skynet to reset and begin bringing back wooly mammoths and sabretooth tigers.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (hLRSq)

217 at some point, the terminators in the future will realize their only chance of success is to send back a machine capable of *becoming* john connor; kill the original and take his place, molding the path of the future from the inside.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (sGtp+)

218 I remember when the 1st Terminator movie was released. At the premier, Vivian Leigh kept hitting on me so I did her Civil War style, if you know what I mean.

#Biden2020

Posted by: Gropin' Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (4e+hS)

219 I liked T1 and T2. Fun movies to watch.

Posted by: Sooner at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (Fs5vw)

220

The T-1000 was a good friend of mine. When we lost Fonzy in that tragic boating accident, the T-1000 turned and said to me, now this is a true story, he said to me now I know why you cry. When I asked him why, he told me you shut up now sir and stop asking questions. Because he died. He DIED!! Fonzy was dead and no one was gonna bring him back. Not President Jimmy Carter or his wife Nell who was on a little show you might have heard of called Gimme a Break. Me and the Terminator cried for days until the Taco Bell we ordered came. Tell you the truth I didn't even want tacos anymore. True story.
Posted by: Joe Biden


I'm sorry, but that one belongs in the Hall of Fame somewhere. Crying I'm laughing so hard.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (w+Z9D)

221 "and she. is. pissed."

lol

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (Pg+x7)

222 120 Loving, nurturing gynobots with working lady parts are found in anime. I really like anime.
Posted by: exdem13 at August

CoughAlitacough
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Alita's source work was a translated manga (source of many anime) which itself received a two-part anime back when. Apparently Cameron really likes anime too. I think he contributed to the Wokinator film just to get Alita 2 greenlit.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (W+kMI)

223 213 Oh, and yeah, it's done for grrlpower. I don't disagree. Just noting that it can fit thematically.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (iikV

While technically consistent with the constantly undermined theme, it kind of wrecks the premise of the prior movies. I don't know that they ever really supported the theme before tbh, it was just something they said while seemingly stuck in a time loop sort of affair.
Posted by: Someguy at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (4i8PS)

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Considering the excised original ending to T2 (which doesn't count, to be fair) where Sarah Conner and her son are in a peaceful future, it was definitely the idea that Sarah and humanity could change their fate.

Removing that ending and allowing T3 to get made directly contradicted the basic idea of the first two movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (iikV8)

224 214
I'd rather see Pluto Nash 2 with Randy Quaid becoming a terminator.

i'm starting to fear we never see leonard part 7

Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (sGtp+)

225 >> at some point, the terminators in the future will realize their only chance of success is to send back a machine capable of *becoming* john connor; kill the original and take his place, molding the path of the future from the inside.


Dude, you've just summarized T5.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (bDqIh)

226 She and her wise-cracking space raccoon sidekick send a Federation heavy cruiser into the planet killer causing Skynet to reset and begin bringing back wooly mammoths and sabretooth tigers.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (hLRSq)


Now I want to go see your version. Especially the wise-cracking space raccoon.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (O8WFE)

227 So is Ahnuld's housekeeper lurking?

Posted by: torabora at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (Y274z)

228 226 She and her wise-cracking space raccoon sidekick send a Federation heavy cruiser into the planet killer causing Skynet to reset and begin bringing back wooly mammoths and sabretooth tigers.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (hLRSq)


Now I want to go see your version. Especially the wise-cracking space raccoon.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (O8WFE)

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"Yes! More work!"
-Bradley Cooper

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (iikV8)

229 allowing T3 to be made proved that we live in the timeline where Kurt went back to the past and made everyone in southern California very stupid.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (NHx/I)

230 120 Loving, nurturing gynobots with working lady parts are found in anime. I really like anime.
Posted by: exdem13 at August

CoughAlitacough
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (+UfAd)

Even moreso, Armitage III.

Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (sm6Pk)

231
The idea behind Lance being the Terminator (easily hidden in plain sight) got reused in T2 with the T1000 played by Robert Patrick.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba

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Seems to have also been reused in Aliens. Lance played the good humanoid.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (13CQC)

232 Terminator Salvation wasn't a Chase Movie. Maybe it deserves a second look?

Posted by: Slave to the World Engine at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (THn9o)

233
Considering the excised original ending to T2 (which doesn't count, to be fair) where Sarah Conner and her son are in a peaceful future, it was definitely the idea that Sarah and humanity could change their fate.

Removing that ending and allowing T3 to get made directly contradicted the basic idea of the first two movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (iikV

Huh, I had no idea there was an original ending to t2 with an actual payoff.

Posted by: Someguy at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (4i8PS)

234 I don't think many kung fu movies pretend to be
realistic. You've got to take the rules of the universe of each movie as
they come, allow for suspension of disbelief.



No, the little guy easily wailing on the big guy isn't realistic,
but it can be fun which is often the sole goal of those kinds of movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (iikV

I can take it somewhat in a kung fu movie because they are supposed to be somewhat flights of fancy; secret mysticism that lets the smaller fighter "punch up" to quote Barry. But in most other "real world"movies, they laws of physics getting repealed cause it looks cool is just dumb.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (ymnmz)

235 one thing for sure, i won't be seeing this, even on the televisor. saw t1 & t2 in the theater and t3 on the tube (it looked like a made-for-tv movie) and haven't seen the others. don't even know how many there are.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (Pg+x7)

236 Saffron: Intergalactic Space Whore.


This will always be my Favorite Imaginary Movie I Tell My Grandkids About To Convince Them The Olde Dayes Were Better

Posted by: Sharkman at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (6qa8a)

237 That trailer looks awful.

In fairness (as I point out in tomorrow's review) ALL trailers look awful.

Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (CcUfv)

238 214
I'd rather see Pluto Nash 2 with Randy Quaid becoming a terminator.

i'm starting to fear we never see leonard part 7
Posted by: Anachronda

our Skynyrd tribute band is called Lynyrd Part 6. Biden word of honor.

Posted by: x at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (nFwvY)

239 For some reason Terminator films do not feel like time travel films. I would have reversed the time travel hook and sent a man and a modified version of a Terminator robot FORWARD into the post apocalyptic future. Good old American know how vs future tech. Male it very pro Americaca.

Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (llxrS)

240 Get to da choppa, of mediocrity.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (4e+hS)

241 A machine malfunction sends the Terminator to an alternate dimension of the Multiverse, where there are countless genders, little girls beat up everyone in sight, and people compete to import penniless migrants that must then be financially supported.

The Terminator, unable to cope with the dissonance, pulls out it's own wiring and dies.

The End.

Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (VLjz7)

242 I lost interest in the 'franchise perpetuation' strategy long ago.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (oVJmc)

243 236 This will always be my Favorite Imaginary Movie I Tell My Grandkids About To Convince Them The Olde Dayes Were Better
Posted by: Sharkman at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (6qa8a)

I mean, wouldn't one have to get permission from Joss Whedon?

Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (sm6Pk)

244 198
so not fair





you east coasters are already on the downhill side, coasting to a three day weekend, half in the bag and getting high as fuck



it's 1030 here on the west coast.



fuck all yall

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)

Bloody Marys, it's whats for breakfast

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (5l6gb)

245 The Terminator is a chick, right?

Because otherwise that's the opposite of equality/progress in exactly the same way that Historic First Black President being given a pass because black was deeply-seated and disgusting racism.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman at August 30, 2019 01:44 PM (kRCmK)

246 A machine malfunction sends the Terminator to an alternate dimension of the Multiverse, where there are countless genders, little girls beat up everyone in sight, and people compete to import penniless migrants that must then be financially supported.

The Terminator, unable to cope with the dissonance, pulls out it's own wiring and dies.

The End.

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I'm starting to think delaying Judgment Day was not a smart move.

Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:44 PM (sX1BW)

247 Of course. Hollywood fucked up big time when they rejected the script for Saffron: Intergalactic Space Whore. That would have been money in the bank, with a capital Mammary.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (veoSD)

Shiny.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (k76MH)

248 Just as James Bond can die and his "007" designation can be re-assigned to a black, female agent . . .but that sure as Hell doesn't make her Bond.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (bDqIh)


Just don't think I can get into, My name is Bond. Shaleeka Bond.

Posted by: Sooner at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (Fs5vw)

249 242 I lost interest in the 'franchise perpetuation' strategy long ago.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (oVJmc)

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It's more important to keep the creative team working.

I remember back in the day when Shaun of the Dead came out, I wanted more than anything in the world of movies a direct sequel.

Instead, they announced something called Hot Fuzz.

"Dammit! I wanted From Dusk til Shaun!"

And then I watched Hot Fuzz and I'm probably much happier with that than I would ever have been with a sequel to to Shaun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (iikV8)

250 The only way I'd watch another "Terminator" movie is if it was written and directed as an "Animal House"-type comedy, so the "bad" Terminator bleats "Eat me!" as it melts in a crucible filled with molten metal.

Posted by: mrp at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (Pqytn)

251 A machine malfunction sends the Terminator to an alternate dimension of the Multiverse, where there are countless genders, little girls beat up everyone in sight, and people compete to import penniless migrants that must then be financially supported.

The Terminator, unable to cope with the dissonance, pulls out it's own wiring and dies.

The End.
Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (VLjz7)


So, we're safe from terminators. Good to know.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (aS1PU)

252 quite a lot of the Terminator tv series wasn't about robot chases either.

mind you, the second season was a boring waste of time. even Shirley Manson couldn't save it.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (NHx/I)

253 229 allowing T3 to be made proved that we live in the timeline where Kurt went back to the past and made everyone in southern California very stupid.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (NHx/I)


It was easy!

Posted by: Kurt is a sock-muppet at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (hLRSq)

254 i'm starting to fear we never see leonard part 7


Or Malcolm XI.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (oVJmc)

255 The dialog in the T1 movie really sparked.

"Look at it this way. In a hundred years, who's gonna care?" (Sarah's coworker at the diner, when the bratty kid has tipped his ice cream into her apron. The joke here is that human historians in 2084 would be very concerned with everything that happened on Sarah's last day as an "everyday jane")

Reese: "That terminator is out there. It can't be stopped. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse. And it absolutely will not stop until you are dead!"

"Viene la tormenta!"
"What did he say?"
"He said a storm is coming."
(Sarah looks off into the distance, considering the future and the human-cyborg apocalyse that looms)
"I know. . . ."
(Thunderous music as she slams the jeep into gear and drives off into the mountains)

There was *nothing* half as good as this kind of dialog in T2. If any of the later sequels came close to this, I'd like to know.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (ClOmq)

256 I'm fine with grl power in Terminator, its always been about women who triumph. I'm even okay with a female terminator, it makes perfect sense.

I just can't work out... why does it have a metal skeleton under the skin? Its clearly liquid, so what's with that design?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (KZzsI)

257 The Terminator is a chick, right?

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Haven't we done the hot terminator chick already?

And why is Carrie Fisher in this? For someone who died a few years ago, she is turning up in a lot of dead franchises.

Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (sX1BW)

258 >>Just don't think I can get into, My name is Bond. Shaleeka Bond.


How about Dread Pirate Robert?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (bDqIh)

259
Critical Drinker sums it up.

https://youtu.be/0EN4yJLkYLs

Some stick figure androgynous boy simply doesn't cut it as a hero.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (SsjTc)

260 Max Power --

Actually, I remember at the time that people were very interested in the "flash-forwards" of the robot vs. humanity war, because Cameron made it look so cool.

He probably couldn't have sustained that for a whole movie just for budgetary/FX reasons not to mention dubious writing skills, but that would've been a more interesting approach: Having saved John Conner, show the future being reclaimed from the 'bots.

But then, as Carpenter proved with "Halloween 3", people don't go to sequels to see something different.

Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (CcUfv)

261 here in the mountains I am waiting for the caterers to bring sammiches.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (NHx/I)

262 zero fucks to give.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (KP5rU)

263 "ad astra" looks like it might be something.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (Pg+x7)

264
All I know about cars is that the fish goes on the bicycle.

202 Ford wont start. Great electrical, healthy battery, turns over like $50 Ho, just won'y quite catch. Almost, you can feel it aching to get off, can't quite get there.

Thoughts?

Posted by: D. I. Pshite at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (UFLLM)

265 Themes the Terminator franchise could focus on:
Determinism/Fate/destiny
Humanism/Transhumanism
Human morality as interpreted by an AI

Themes the Terminator franchise actually does focus on:
Explosions
Arnold's sagging pecs
Gurrl power!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (KUaJL)

266 Terminator vs Robocop

who wins?

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)

267 266 Terminator vs Robocop

who wins?


The viewers.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (O8WFE)

268 Kanata no Astra is awesome.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (NHx/I)

269 But then, as Carpenter proved with "Halloween 3", people don't go to sequels to see something different.

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Thank God.

Posted by: Death Star Grips at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (sX1BW)

270 I lost interest in the 'franchise perpetuation' strategy long ago.

--

But this way we don't have to pay anybody for our advertising placement vehicles, h8r.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (kRCmK)

271 Even T2 was great (all of them, I think) for dialog and storyline and the action was incredible. But its all been done now, and for God's sake how many times are they going to do the "chase on the freeway" scene in a Terminator film??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (KZzsI)

272 263 "ad astra" looks like it might be something.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (Pg+x7)

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Adult scifi. There's so little of that. I am looking forward to it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (iikV8)

273 266
Terminator vs Robocop



who wins?

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)

TJ Laser

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (5l6gb)

274 266 Terminator vs Robocop

who wins?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)

Probably Robocop, since he's who you play as in the "Robocop vs. Terminator" video game from the 90s.

Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (sm6Pk)

275 "ad astra" looks like it might be something.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (Pg+x7)


I read this morning that they made it to explore toxic masculinity.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (aS1PU)

276 TJM, sure "Hot Fuzz" was great. But then you had "End of the World" and at some point you begin to realize that even some non-sequels are sequels...

Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (CcUfv)

277 >>Terminator vs Robocop

who wins?



Judge Dredd

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (bDqIh)

278 Hmmm


2020 Massachusetts Senate GE:

Charlie Baker (R) 45% (+1)
Ed Markey (D-inc) 44%

Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (MAstk)

279 why is Carrie Fisher in this? For someone who died a few years ago, she is turning up in a lot of dead franchises.

cocaine really IS a hell of a drug!

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (NHx/I)

280 for God's sake how many times are they going to do the "chase on the freeway" scene in a Terminator film

---------

Think how good these scenes will be after the Green New Deal takes effect.

Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (sX1BW)

281 Get youah ass to Moss.

Posted by: wrong movie at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (7wztW)

282 276 TJM, sure "Hot Fuzz" was great. But then you had "End of the World" and at some point you begin to realize that even some non-sequels are sequels...
Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (CcUfv)

=========

The World's End is one of the most intricately structured and satisfying movie comedies I've seen in some time. I love that movie so much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (iikV8)

283 "Dammit! I wanted From Dusk til Shaun!"


TJM, have you seen "Juan of the Dead"? Cuban zombie satire.

Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (786Ro)

284 Terminator Bale-vation is an awful experience. None of the ideas by themselves are bad, and the photography is very good. But the characters are not likable and watchable.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (2DEMZ)

285 why is Carrie Fisher in this? For someone who died a few years ago, she is turning up in a lot of dead franchises.



Lucas sold her in the Star Wars sale. She's now Disney property in perpetuity.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (oVJmc)

286 283 "Dammit! I wanted From Dusk til Shaun!"


TJM, have you seen "Juan of the Dead"? Cuban zombie satire.
Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (786Ro)

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I have heard of it, but I have not seen it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (iikV8)

287 that dude in the wife beater is one ugly assed mofo. nothing redeeming about any of this shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (KP5rU)

288 275... "explores toxic masculinity."

oy.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (Pg+x7)

289 Once Robocop ran out of ammo...


terminated.

Posted by: wrong movie at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (7wztW)

290 Saw T2 the first day of release. Theater packed. First scene when the
kids in the playground get nuked. Theater is dead silent. Not a sound.
Then one guy in the front lets out a "Whoah!" Whole theater breaks out
laughing.

That's gotta hurt!

Posted by: george costanza at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (Dh1wo)

291 202 Ford wont start. Great electrical, healthy battery, turns over like $50 Ho, just won'y quite catch. Almost, you can feel it aching to get off, can't quite get there.

--

Computer.

Order a cheap OBD2 reader ($30? Harbor Freight might sell them, too) and search for the code online for what to buy and replace.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (kRCmK)

292 Okay, run this one.

Skynet sends the Terminator back to get John Connor, but misses the date and sends the Terminator to 1930's Germany. The Terminator gets weirded out and thinks that this could be the way to get John Connor by signing up with the Nazis.

The British get wind of the unstoppable Nazi battle-bot and decide that it has to be destroyed with secret agents, but they are betrayed and mostly killed by the Terminator. A young Ian Fleming is the only agent to survive and he has to recruit allies to figure out how to take down the Terminator before the Nazis launch WWII and win, destroying John Connors family line before his mother can be born.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (hLRSq)

293 OK, am I the only one who sees "Ad Astra" as a spiritual successor to "Plan 9 From Outer Space"?

From what I can tell (from the awful trailer and really awful poster) Brad Pitt is going into space to stop some super-explosive, which I can only assume is "Solarinite".

And, as we all recall, Solarinite was the thing the aliens in "Plan 9" came to earth to stop us from inventing.

Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (CcUfv)

294 "read this morning that they made it to explore toxic masculinity."

I think they made it to explore masculinity but that the "toxic" shit is coming from the soy contingent in the media.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (NHx/I)

295 138

Apocalypto isn't a chase movie? How on Earth not?

Posted by: Vanya



No kidding! That's quite literally 2/3 of the entire movie. Then
you have the awesome reconstruction of Tenochtitlan and the hearts
getting ripped out while beating (realistically), it was one of the best
movies ever made from a set, costume, and effects standpoint.


and an astronomical treatise. Our Hero escapes during a total eclipse and that very night, while he's being chased around the forest, his wife looks wistfully at the full moon, thinking of him.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (sGtp+)

296 284 Terminator Bale-vation is an awful experience. None of the ideas by themselves are bad, and the photography is very good. But the characters are not likable and watchable.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (2DEMZ)

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If you want an interesting backstory to a movie, read about how that came into existence.

The original script was fucking bonkers. I wish we lived in a world where we got a fucking bonkers and terrible Terminator movie set in the future instead of a sort of silly and boring Terminator movie set in the future.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (iikV8)

297 Who's seen "Russian Terminator?" Show of hands?

https://youtu.be/Rq-Ju1RQOXM

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (O7MnT)

298

Skynet sends the Terminator back to get John Connor, but misses the date and sends the Terminator to 1930's Germany. The Terminator gets weirded out and thinks that this could be the way to get John Connor by signing up with the Nazis.



'Germanator?'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (oVJmc)

299 >>for God's sake how many times are they going to do the "chase on the freeway" scene in a Terminator film



At least Fast and Furious knows they have to kick it up a notch, and have done cars jumping Dubai towers, cars parachuting onto an isolated mountain pass, and cars on a frozen lake being chased by a submarine.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (bDqIh)

300 298

Skynet sends the Terminator back to get John Connor, but misses the date and sends the Terminator to 1930's Germany. The Terminator gets weirded out and thinks that this could be the way to get John Connor by signing up with the Nazis.


'Germanator?'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (oVJmc)

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"You have a strange accent..."
-SS officer in a tavern

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (iikV8)

301
And, as we all recall, Solarinite was the thing the aliens in "Plan 9" came to earth to stop us from inventing.




When you have the solarinite, you have nothing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (oVJmc)

302 I remember one of the rumors going around in the early 90's was that Arnold was tapped to play Sgt. Rock.
"Jah, here come da Germans."

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (5l6gb)

303 "she's now disney property in perpetuity..."

i love carrie fisher's line about lucas owning the merchandizing rights -

every time she looks in the mirror she has to send george 5 dollars.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (Pg+x7)

304 There was something in the first movie, too, that never got mentioned again. Reese said that after the original Terminator went through to the past, and after he himself went through, the humans destroyed the time travel machinery. There could not be any more trips into the past, by anyone. So how come we have all these cyborgs and humans or whatever blithely leaping into the 1980s?

Unless Skynet rebuilt the time travel device.

Or unless something stopped the humans from destroying it as they told Reese they were going to do.

But I never heard that mentioned by anybody in T2. Did it ever get brought up in any of the other films, or the TV series?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (ClOmq)

305 The Giiiiirrrrrl power Terminators get really bitchy for a week every four weeks. T12 explores when these Terminators live together and sync up.

It is not pretty for MANkind.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (pw+jk)

306 'Germanator?'

I think that was the porno parody.

Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (CcUfv)

307 208 196
The story I've always heard is that Cameron wanted him to play Reese, the human soldier. He said, no; I want to play the Terminator. Now whether that was because it was the title role, because he knew that all eyes and minds would be focused on that character onscreen or off, or because he knew his acting skills were not that great, I don't know.

But he made the right call.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (ClOmq)

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I think there are a couple of conflicting stories around.

The one I know is that Lance Henrickson was slotted to play the Terminator then Cameron found Arnold and just knew he'd make a great bad guy.

The idea behind Lance being the Terminator (easily hidden in plain sight) got reused in T2 with the T1000 played by Robert Patrick.
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Having seen Aliens many many times, I can see Lance Henrickson as the Terminator and doing a good job. But Ah-nuld was the man. He got it down, the cold inhuman expression, the matching speech pattern, the hidden strength under control, and the sense of inexorable pursuit. It was his role after that.


Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (W+kMI)

308
How about Dread Pirate Robert?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (bDqIh)


Let me think about this.

Posted by: Sooner at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (Fs5vw)

309 it wasnt Tenochtitlan. it was some northern Maya city like Mayapan, under Toltec influence

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (NHx/I)

310 Casablanca 2:

Young Moslem feminist fighters take on Signor Ferrari at the Blue Parrot, then in a surprising turn, marry their brothers and get elected to the US Congress.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (FTlwv)

311 "she's now disney property in perpetuity..."

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You break it, you buy it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (kRCmK)

312 304 But I never heard that mentioned by anybody in T2. Did it ever get brought up in any of the other films, or the TV series?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (ClOmq)

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The opening voice over in T2 retcons Reese's exposition dump a bit by saying (or implying) that 4 people got sent back at once (3 terminators and 1 person total).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (iikV8)

313 I saw the French version, "The Surrendinator."

Its secret weapon was pairing the right wine with cheese, and turning over lists of all the Jews.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (O8WFE)

314 293
OK, am I the only one who sees "Ad Astra" as a spiritual successor to "Plan 9 From Outer Space"?


i hadn't put it in precisely those terms, but, yeah.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (sGtp+)

315 Terminator 16; The Early Birdening

Geriatric Terminator - There is no more pudding on the dessert buffet. I'll be back.

Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (VLjz7)

316 Astra?? The Thin Man's little white dog??

BTW, I banged Myrna Loy. Best piece of ass I ever had.

Posted by: joey biden at August 30, 2019 01:55 PM (Dh1wo)

317 315 Terminator 16; The Early Birdening

Geriatric Terminator - There is no more pudding on the dessert buffet. I'll be back.
Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (VLjz7)

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It's nothing compared to Rocky 5...thousand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:55 PM (iikV8)

318 But the female looking terminator is just a machine that looks like a female.

Posted by: Skip at August 30, 2019 01:55 PM (BbGew)

319 315
Terminator 16; The Early Birdening



Geriatric Terminator - There is no more pudding on the dessert buffet. I'll be back.

Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (VLjz7)


I'll be back.....at 5 right after my nap

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 30, 2019 01:55 PM (ymnmz)

320 310 Casablanca 2:

Young Moslem feminist fighters take on Signor Ferrari at the Blue Parrot, then in a surprising turn, marry their brothers and get elected to the US Congress.


Of all the vegan soy latte joints in all the world, xe had to walk into mine.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM (O8WFE)

321 >>i hadn't put it in precisely those terms, but, yeah.

Thank you, Anachronda.

Sometimes I think I'm the only one who appreciates the classics.

Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM (CcUfv)

322 Is every post today going to be about aging has-beens?

Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM (sX1BW)

323 -
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Of all the vegan soy latte joints in all the world, xe had to walk into mine.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM


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Made me laugh.

Posted by: irright at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM (pMGkg)

324 273
266

Terminator vs Robocop



who wins?



Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)

TJ Laser


missile mike

Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:57 PM (sGtp+)

325

Terminator needs a man like the NFL needs Meghan Trainor.

Go with the thicc white girl, JayZ!

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (w+Z9D)

326 Has Joe Biden told the one about how he got into a fistfight with a terminator? You should ask him about it.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (Uu+Jp)

327 That is not a chick. That is a skinny dude with bad hair.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (xJa6I)

328 missile mike


Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:57 PM (sGtp+)


I'd buy that for a dollar

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (5l6gb)

329 Did they film during an eclipse?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (2DEMZ)

330 Nood, and not the naked terminator chick from years ago..

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (FTlwv)

331 324 273
266

Terminator vs Robocop



who wins?



Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)

TJ Laser

missile mike
Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:57 PM (sGtp+)

I believe Dark Horse comics settled this issue years ago.

Robocop, for plot reasons.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 30, 2019 01:59 PM (xJa6I)

332 Sooo, OT, and it's probably been discussed here already, but WT-actual-F?


https://tinyurl.com/y2qpy6pg


She just stabs a little boy in the face and... nobody jumps on her?

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at August 30, 2019 01:59 PM (rP4OC)

333 Is every post today going to be about aging has-beens?
Definitely. There will be one about Bill Kris...

Never mind.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 30, 2019 01:59 PM (Dh1wo)

334 Having seen Aliens many many times, I can see Lance Henrickson as the Terminator and doing a good job. But Ah-nuld was the man. He got it down, the cold inhuman expression, the matching speech pattern, the hidden strength under control, and the sense of inexorable pursuit. It was his role after that.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019


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Not to mention the fact that Arnold was so much physically bigger than Michael Biehn and Linda Hamilton, so that he looked even more terrifying.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 02:00 PM (ClOmq)

335 https://wapo.st/2LlIcNH
*******
Longtime lobbyist and former congressman Vin Weber resigns from consulting firm - The Washington Post
******
But OMFG Nothing is Happening

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (BqBId)

336
The opening voice over in T2 retcons Reese's exposition dump a bit by saying (or implying) that 4 people got sent back at once (3 terminators and 1 person total).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019


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I'd forgotten that. Okay, say it took some time to prep a Terminator for the jump. One is sent, then a wait; then Two; and then Three -- which is when Reese and John Conner break in and realize what's happened, and they send Reese back after whichever one he can catch.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (ClOmq)

337

and an astronomical treatise. Our Hero escapes during a total eclipse and that very night, while he's being chased around the forest, his wife looks wistfully at the full moon, thinking of him.
Posted by: Anachronda


LOL, never noticed that. It's a miracle!

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (w+Z9D)

338 But if the terminator succeeds then John Connor would never be born, so Skynet would never need to send the terminator back!

Did you ever think of that, huh?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (KUaJL)

339 329 Did they film during an eclipse?
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No, what you are seeing is the most overused cinematic technique of the past 20 years. Film everything with a dark lens filter, then edit the film so there are only 6 colors in one scene and all the actors look like they are in a Spanish master's painting.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 02:04 PM (W+kMI)

340 No, what you are seeing is the most overused cinematic technique of the past 20 years. Film everything with a dark lens filter, then edit the film so there are only 6 colors in one scene and all the actors look like they are in a Spanish master's painting.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019


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That dark bluish-gray look. I keep saying, "Have these people never heard of Technicolor?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 02:05 PM (ClOmq)

341 >> 297 Who's seen "Russian Terminator?" Show of hands?

Kenny Rogers looks great in that. I just wished they would of fleshed out Ricky Schroder's character more.

Posted by: bananaDream at August 30, 2019 02:05 PM (l6b3d)

342
338 But if the terminator succeeds then John Connor would never be born, so Skynet would never need to send the terminator back!

Did you ever think of that, huh?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (KUaJL)

I think the terminator would then leave a note or talk to baby skynet.

Posted by: Someguy at August 30, 2019 02:05 PM (4i8PS)

343 old kung foo type movies ... they are so pure of thought, they tap into the supernatural. Isn't that why they can go beyond natural law physics? It's "magic". (Big Trouble in Little China shows that, but in a comical way ... favorite part, when they take the drug, going down the elevator ... all smiling "I feel pretty good about this" ... ha)

But part of that China lore is how they are pure, while the West is full of dirty capitalists. hahahaha ... China has young prostitution everywhere ... despite it being illegal. But they still get to mock us dirty Westerners ... because the world revolves around China, center of the universe.


These China ADV guys take on that topic ... young daughters from out back often get sold into prostitution, to pay for education for the (more important) son. Not all Chinese participate, but it is prevalent everywhere. ...
youtube link

https://tinyurl.com/yylwz93h

Posted by: illiniwek at August 30, 2019 02:06 PM (Cus5s)

344

That's a reason that Limitless (movie and TV show) was so interesting. It would use warm hues to indicate the influence of an intelligence boosting drug

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 02:07 PM (w+Z9D)

345 Nood

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at August 30, 2019 02:07 PM (rP4OC)

346 I have to say that Terminator 3 was the worst of the lot so far, but I would have hit Painkiller Terminator Jane like the fist of an angry T1000.

Posted by:
Grump928(C)
Native Texan and Alabama Alumn
Twice as Smug as You
at August 30, 2019 02:32 PM (tFWWx)

347 So let me get this straight. Our savior is a latino, usually in the back of a pick-up looking like an illegal immigrant being chased by a Terminator disguised as a border patrol agent.

Really?

Really?

Oh sure, no symbolism there. Naaaaahhhh.

Posted by: RationalistYoda at August 30, 2019 02:39 PM (+GhAV)

348 Joe Biden's next fairytale will have him in a threesome with two Iranians.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 30, 2019 02:44 PM (8ts9m)

349 Only if they cast Caitlyn Jennings in the lead role.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (Kpl3J)

I'm not so sure that's true. I believe there are many transgenders M-F on t.v.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at August 30, 2019 02:52 PM (+CiEK)

350 I liked Salvation and I thought there were lots of stories left to tell in the post-judgement day universe. Never saw genisis or whatever it was called. Seemed stupid.

Posted by: Fletch at August 30, 2019 02:54 PM (Wxzj0)

351 I'm shocked that Hamilton stayed on the project after the studio execs said stupid shit about this being the "first Terminator movie with strong female leads"

I mean, for fuck's sake, her character was tied with Weaver's for being synonymous with "badass action movie chick" for anyone who isn't braindead.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at August 30, 2019 02:57 PM (67XdO)

352 Sorry, McG's Terminator Salvation was an entertaining movie and had the great Anton Yelchin (RIP) in it.

Posted by: In the bunker at August 30, 2019 03:16 PM (dzwmu)

353 Why was the all lady Terminator movie written by men? I thought that was against the New Rules....

Posted by: Duderino at August 30, 2019 06:35 PM (fvR8v)

354 I'll tell what's always bugged me about The Terminator. Skynet feels the walls closing in on it, and sends a robot assassin back in time to make sure John Connor is never born.

How long would it take for Skynet to realize the Terminator had failed? I'll tell you how long... it would know immediately. After all, it sent that assassin back in time and the situation didn't instantly change. So, why didn't it then send two or three Terminators back in time right away? And then four or five Terminators if that didn't work?

Well, maybe it took a tremendous amount of time and resources and preparation just to send one back in time. But that still leaves another question...

Kyle Reese followed the Terminator back to 1984, and ended up becoming the father of John Connor. John Connor thus wouldn't have existed if the Terminator hadn't been sent back in time. So... why did Skynet send the Terminator back in time? Without it having already done that, there should've been no John Connor to begin with...

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 30, 2019 07:46 PM (H3MF8)

355 Also! How did Kyle Reese get sent back in time to save John Connor, if there was no John Connor to begin with?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 30, 2019 07:58 PM (H3MF8)

356 Susan Golddigger Smith and Ricardio Custodio; there's something funny going on here.

Posted by: No Name Smith at September 03, 2019 03:04 PM (+gUIl)

357 If two players show down identical hands, need to split the pot.
These games simple and even amateurs can try their luck. Lethal Weapon ~ Mel
Gibson again, this time teamed up with Danny Glover.

Posted by: ocean king meaning at September 24, 2019 04:02 AM (Re7Ex)

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