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A Terminator Needs a Man Like a Fish Needs a Bicycle
Uggh.
It's not that this is a feminist Terminator -- most Terminator movies (and most James Cameron movies, period) have a feminist agitprop message. It just looks so, so dull and so done to death. Haven't we seen a version of this several times before? Versions that didn't suck? T2 was a good movie, but it did something that wasn't good for a Terminator series: By remaking T1's chase plot, it established the template, the rule really, that all Terminator movies must be chase movies where the Good Terminator wants to save the person and the Bad Terminator wants to kill the person. All T2 did was add a short sidequest about killing some black asthmatic. If T2 pushed a different kind of plot, it would have established that a lot of different things can happen in the Terminator universe, apart from one Terminator chasing a somewhat older and more Arnoldian Terminator. Running the chase plot twice in a row set in stone the Terminator formula, and that formula, while great for two movies, gets really old and played out after six. It was the right decision for a one-shot sequel, but the wrong decision for an ongoing series. So here we go again. Thirty five years on, and we have another Good Terminator trying to save a person from a Bad Terminator in a chase plot.Oh, and this Terminator can do New Tricks -- another part of the formula established with T2 and slavishly held to every since. This one seems to be completely serious and humorless. A "dark and gritty" reboot of the Terminator franchise. Ugh. No one wants to see that. This is all dumb lowest-common-denominator chase plot nonsense. It's basically a superhero movie, but with plainclothes. You really think you call sell us on a "dark and gritty" nonsense superhero chase plot movie just by having an old woman growl something about "fate" every three minutes? Hey, Terminator: The DCEU called. It says it wants its disappointing box office back.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Gref at August 30, 2019 01:04 PM (TKxWf)
Such a fresh idea --- stolen from the 2nd movie!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: LGoPs former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (T6OXT)
Posted by: Gref at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (TKxWf)
Now...not so much.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:05 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (NjJUT)
Michael Shannon has got to be in it then. His Zod in the Superman reboot fit the bill, and bored the shiznit out of me.
Terence Stamp >>> Michael Shannon
Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (sm6Pk)
Who cares if no one breaks a sweat, no one limps, bleeds, appears exhausted, etc.?
Borg vs. borg is just as uninteresting as god vs. god, alien vs. alien, and on and on and on.
*yawn*
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (jp0Bv)
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:07 PM (w+Z9D)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 30, 2019 01:07 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: old woman growling at August 30, 2019 01:07 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (w+Z9D)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (1g7ch)
But from T2 on, it's just Superman vs. The Robot Devil, over and over and over.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - if I'm posting, I'm trolling at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (FO7Ul)
What is the sex/gender of the new Terminator? Lathe/turns both ways? Hammer/does everything?
Posted by: Gref at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (TKxWf)
Posted by: seriously, that's an unhuman sound at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (QLhJ3)
Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (Q3dyo)
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:08 PM (w+Z9D)
Only if they cast Caitlyn Jennings in the lead role.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (EcqY2)
T2-T4: Man's machine vs. Machine
Last Terminator, T5: Ha! Your Man is really. . . a machine!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (1+J19)
Posted by: hillary at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (Q3dyo)
another blockbuster movie i will never watch.
Huck Follywood.
and all the assholes who w*rk in it.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (6E6gM)
I'll be back!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (pNxlR)
The cyborg is fully functional and versed in over 1,000 different sexual techniques.
Not one of which would appeal to a normal heterosexual man.
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (w+Z9D)
Sorry, gramps, but there's a reason why T2 was so popular.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (7s3Gx)
Posted by: Vic at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (7s3Gx)
Because people have no taste.
I'm well aware ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (EcqY2)
death of Martin Luther King Jr. Great statesman. Guy got shot for
selling cigarettes on a St. Louis street corner in 1983. By police. This
is a true story as I stand in front of you. I went to comfort my mother
because she was upset. Turns out she smoked the same brand he got
killed for. Camelback Smokes they were. True story.
Came in
packs of 47. I remember them like it was yesterday. Smelled like Pine
Sol. And she told me I don't want you're damn comfort! He died! He
DIED!!!! And she said now go put President Obama on the TV, Charlie.
Because he's gonna speak and want to hear it. We all wanted to hear it.
Then the Spaceship Discovery exploded and we lost Captain Picard too.
1995 was not a good year.
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (CrNzI)
Posted by: t-bird
27 I think the proper term, Ace, is Terminatrix.
Posted by: zombie
Beat me to the punch by ten seconds!
Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (Q3dyo)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (d7Ww2)
Hey! That's okay!
Come see me! I'm fun and exciting and don't contain any feminist agitpro-
....
....
Goddammit.
*kicks dirt*
*wanders off muttering*
Posted by: Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (mIQCW)
Posted by: Vic at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (T42ki)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (ekmlY)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (7s3Gx)
Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:06 PM (786Ro)
Omg, Terence Stamp was a great Zod...
I've never seen a Terminator film (just excerpts here and there). Won't see this one.
And the shemale terminator is Dolf Lundgren in "drag"?
Dunno.
Posted by: Potato salad for brains at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (B5K06)
terminator 2 had a good story and great fx
twins had a good story and humor
kindergarten cop had a story and some really very cute and funny scenes
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (llxrS)
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:11 PM (T42ki)
Is Steve Ritchie still...
...wait, stupid question, he just made Black Knight : Sword of Rage.
Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: Potato salad for brains at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (B5K06)
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (6E6gM)
Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (llxrS)
Sorry, gramps, but there's a reason why T2 was so popular.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:10 PM (7s3Gx)
And Aliens. But T3 and beyond, and Alien 3 or whatever it was called, and beyond, were sequels too far.
Posted by: Gref at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (TKxWf)
Posted by: trapper's girl at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (tU1YH)
In the movie, her designation was "TX," which plainly suggests Terminatrix.
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (PbpT7)
"Come on man, let me put another quarter in the meter!"
"No, you are over the two hour time limit."
"This is a rip-off, I'm just going to drive aw-accckkk!" *chokes out*
"You have been impounded."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: kathysaysso at August 30, 2019 01:13 PM (vkS2Z)
Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:12 PM (sm6Pk)
And by that, I meant _I_ was about to ask a stupid question.
Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: imp
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Normal heterosexuality is a tool of white supremacy.
Posted by: SJW at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: Mallfly The Georgia Peach at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (ZqRa6)
T2-T4: Man's machine vs. Machine
Last Terminator, T5: Ha! Your Man is really. . . a
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (bDqIh)
SJWed it for you
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (ekmlY)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - if I'm posting, I'm trolling at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (FO7Ul)
I'll be back. (Sorry...)
Posted by: Potato salad for brains at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (B5K06)
Posted by: Brie Larson at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Abzod at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (P/aDH)
T3 was not great, yet, if you watch the credits, you will find GORGRP, Global Operational Resources Group, credited for stuff, technical pew and boom and medical training stuff.
That was my firm. My only fame.
TLez looks like a stinker.
Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (UFLLM)
>>...wait, stupid question, he just made Black Knight : Sword of Rage.
I want to play that thing!
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (T42ki)
I haven't been in a theater in 25 years. Do movies still have plots and character development or is it just interchangeable cardboard characters, weapons, explosions and CGI?
Everyone talks about the stifling Hays Code, but there were a lot of great, sophisticated movies made back then.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 30, 2019 01:14 PM (Wx/+I)
Posted by: motionview at August 30, 2019 01:15 PM (pYQR/)
I always preferred the first one. Though the second one had very good VFX and action.
The first one, though, had a better story and more, um, emotion. It was also a cleaner plot, whereas the second one added sidequests and unnecessary complications just to hide the fact that it was a remake of the first one.
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:15 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2019 01:15 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (Pg+x7)
Travel back in time and remake Terminator 3 to save the franchise. What is the plot?
Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (llxrS)
the obsessive YouTubers that examine every single frame of a trailer and do everything to figure out the entire plot before release didn't exist back then, so it was still a surprise for some people.
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (RKQ/v)
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (+UfAd)
Posted by: SJW at August 30, 2019 01:16 PM (CDGwz)
https://tinyurl.com/jl549x3
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (T42ki)
Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2019 01:15 PM (
Apocalypto?
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (+UfAd)
Did you see the way that space raccoon blew up Saturn? Who knew he could work a hypersonic plasma torpedo launcher on that starfighter?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Sock Monkey..reprise at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (VlLK5)
Posted by: Beinghood of SJW Workers, Local AoSHQ at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Flyover at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (B5K06)
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it established the template, the rule really, that all Terminator movies must be chase movies
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We find this all quite flattering.
Posted by: Tom and Jerry at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (+UfAd)
Not a chase movie.
Dirty Mary and Crazy Larry -
chase movie.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (EcqY2)
T1: Great, with an underlying creepiness that really made the film.
T2: Good adventure film, although Ed Furlong's acting was worse than Arnie's.
T3: Loken's inflatable tits, and a neat twist ending. Otherwise forgettable.
T4: Has more A-10 Warthog BRRRRRRRT! than any other film I've seen. Otherwise, it stinks.
T5: Steaming pile of rancid monkey crap. Proves that the dragon chick from GoT is worthless in anything but that one role.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (veoSD)
Posted by: simplemind at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (9GqpF)
I also thought she was far cuter in T1, but the relentless evil of Robert Patrick's character made me like both T movies.
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (cfSLd)
Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (cGlgB)
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (+UfAd)
Is that a movie? A chase movie? Then yes.
Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2019 01:18 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: bananaDream at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (l6b3d)
Posted by: ... at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (CrNzI)
That was my firm. My only fame.
TLez looks like a stinker.
Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate
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I worked for the company that made the video monitors used to create the early CGI stuff for TRON.
Posted by: SJW at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: Vic at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (T42ki)
Posted by: Shtetl G at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (16cUT)
That sends me off to other internet areas. Too dorky for me. Shudder.
Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (nRWPy)
Whoops, I meant where should I look for the Munk video? Damn clipboard
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https://youtu.be/0z-eZIsLHAo?t=2191
Simon Schama digs a hole, then Steyn shoves him in it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (2JpPM)
Posted by: Cum-Dumpster Kurt at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (IiFob)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: old woman growling at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (786Ro)
tbf, it doesn't matter if a killer robot takes the form of a heavyweight boxer, a waif, or even a kitten. It's a killer robot. And I wouldn't want to take on a killer robot kitten that has to take a pill.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (7OILk)
Posted by: Floyd of Rosedale at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (O6DoG)
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (+UfAd)
Posted by: tommylotto at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (dYinJ)
twin that turns shit into ice just makes giant ice dildos and fucks
everyone is the ass hard because that is gritty and shit.
Posted by: Shtetl G
OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE
Posted by: Shemp Smith at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (UFLLM)
Posted by: ... at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (CrNzI)
That's pretty much where I draw the line as well. For example, a fair chunk of the special effects/drama in T3, like the crane smashing multiple buildings, don't begin to pass the smell test.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (7s3Gx)
Enjoy young women queuing up for your action schlock, Hollywood. I thought you people liked money?
Posted by: trev006 at August 30, 2019 01:21 PM (HOhHO)
T2 I was rooting for the Robots to shoot the Kid was so annoying.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM
You do know I'm Canadian, eh?
Posted by: Peter North at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Joe Biden, on a good day at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (Q3dyo)
Posted by: bananaDream at August 30, 2019 01:19 PM (l6b3d)
THey actually changed their names in the credits for old movies, that they had not done with their tranny names.
These people are all crazy. You don't change someone's name in old credits. That's worse than Soviet statue dropping crap. They actually had to go out of their way to change those names. How weird. And stupid.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (EcqY2)
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (qC1Sy)
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Loving, nurturing gynobots with working lady parts are found in anime. I really like anime.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (W+kMI)
Saves a ton on movie tickets and streaming fees.
Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:22 PM (VLjz7)
I had T2 on laserdisc, but eventually the player gave it up. On to blu-ray...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (7s3Gx)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:17 PM (T42ki)
I threw money at the Kickstarter for FarSight to put T2 Pinball in The Pinball Arcade for Steam a couple years back.
Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (sm6Pk)
All the sci-fi stuff needs vulnerable machines, when really, it would be more like iron-man ... where the bad guys hold the hostages, and his rockets take out all the bad guys at once, almost instantly. (and that would be "old tech" in T5 times)
Why would a robot so advanced allow a human to even get close with a gun? It would kill them in an instant from 100 (1000?) yards. Or it sends out a 100 little drones and kills everyone in an instant. Or how about laser tech ... we already have that ... it could just laser every target through the eyeball in an instant. But they need the action and drama, so that doesn't work.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: exdem13 at August
CoughAlitacough
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (+UfAd)
In the movie, her designation was "TX," which plainly suggests Terminatrix.
Posted by: ace
Or "Trixie" for short.
Posted by: Joe Biden, on a good day at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (Q3dyo)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (O8WFE)
Posted by: nip at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (DfGpI)
Posted by: ... at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (CrNzI)
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 30, 2019 01:24 PM (/Njku)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (7OILk)
Been done. "The Toonce-nator."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:24 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (+UfAd)
Chasing is only part of the movie. Less than half. More like a quarter.
We've got labeling standards, here.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:24 PM (EcqY2)
Even wikipedia lists someone named 'Bruce Jenner' as the winner of the '76 decathlon.
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (gHCnG)
Posted by: Don Q at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (NgKpN)
They already did a bad chick Terminator, and she was really good. I mean, a hot Terminator...wild.
And Salvation was not that bad a movie, I enjoyed it, it had a story to tell and the effects were cool. We needed to know more about what life would be like.
But NOOOOooooooooooo....
We get Lesbonator Wokinator with Linda Hamilton dressed as a dude all manly and shit.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (z8c2c)
Guessing that's some sort of simulator?
I am 29, you know...
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (T42ki)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (FTlwv)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (RKQ/v)
What do they want to do?
Ask the woke and broke state of Illinois for money.
Oh that and build a casino.
Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (MAstk)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (dKiJG)
LOLOL just kidding judgement day happens anyway just a few years late.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 30, 2019 01:26 PM (oZ6kz)
Apocalypto isn't a chase movie? How on Earth not?
Posted by: Vanya
No kidding! That's quite literally 2/3 of the entire movie. Then you have the awesome reconstruction of Tenochtitlan and the hearts getting ripped out while beating (realistically), it was one of the best movies ever made from a set, costume, and effects standpoint.
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:26 PM (w+Z9D)
Posted by: Sheriff Joe at August 30, 2019 01:26 PM (9FQSz)
Posted by: bananaDream at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (l6b3d)
It was also a sandwich as well as a floor wax.
FIGHT ME!!!
Posted by: Sharkman at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (6qa8a)
It was weird. First, someone who is not Ahnold was reading Ahnold lines. He did not have sufficient testosterone.
Second, part of what makes the Terminator sound alien is that Ahnold can't speak English. So you had a 160 lb guy speaking German, with a German accent, which doesn't sound at all jarring in German.
They should have hired a Russian or something.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Mark in Sandy UT at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (DTI8p)
Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM
For which all 5 of the proposed locations are in the 'hood.
Posted by: The Mayor of Chicago at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (UFLLM)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (4e+hS)
Ace doesn't like Hollywood after being ejected as a screenwriter
Posted by: Kurt at August 30, 2019 01:20 PM (IiFob)
Of course. Hollywood fucked up big time when they rejected the script for Saffron: Intergalactic Space Whore. That would have been money in the bank, with a capital Mammary.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (veoSD)
One scene in the trailer a T splits into two T's of the same size. Where did all that extra Mass come from?
Another scene, the 90 lb scrawny terminator girl is swings a huge chain that must weigh more than her, or at least the same if she is some kind of secret unobtanium metal. How can she spin that chain so fast and not fling herself across the room?
Whats it all magic and stuff?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (ymnmz)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (iikV8)
The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit.
What do they want to do?
Federalize it. Do you want all those poor retirees to starve, you heartless, greedy Teabagger?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (Wx/+I)
Hmm, that trailer didn't need the dumb joke at the end.
Can they stop with that crap.
Had some cool moments.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (z8c2c)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (FTlwv)
Amen. "To Have And To Have Not" was on the other day. The "you know how to whistle" scene is steaming.
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (aS1PU)
The State should respond by disincorporating the city government, placing CPD under the State police and FIRING EVERYONE. The city is run by imbeciles. They literally sold all the parking meters a few years ago for lump sum cash--talk about eating your seed corn.
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (+UfAd)
Posted by: Matt Groeing at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (9FQSz)
'"The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit. "
Can we get a billion!
Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM (z8c2c)
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Froggy went a courtin' and she did ride, hmmm hmmm . . .
Between Ms Froggy and Mr Toad there is not a lot of room for citizens in their little swamp.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (MIKMs)
One scene in the trailer a T splits into two T's of the same size. Where did all that extra Mass come from?
Another scene, the 90 lb scrawny terminator girl is swings a huge chain that must weigh more than her, or at least the same if she is some kind of secret unobtanium metal. How can she spin that chain so fast and not fling herself across the room?
Whats it all magic and stuff?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (ymnmz)
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I think about that sometimes.
"Not the real world" should be enough. "I'd never write that" is something else that I think.
But yeah, Bruce Banner becoming a giant rage monster without massive caloric intake instead realistic, but neither is a giant green rage monster.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (iikV8)
i suggested arnold as the scientist who makes terminators (why would it have a german accent in t1?) for skynet for one of the sequels (post governorship) and someone said it was a storyline in a terminator book, though not one of the movies.
in any case, just a guess.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: JAS at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (dT9VH)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 30, 2019 01:29 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (4e+hS)
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Yeah, yeah, ALL the sci-fi is dark and gritty any more. It's like Hollywood gave up on any possibility of a future where Humanity is prospering in a bright and shiny starfaring technowonk culture. You want to impress me Hollywood, make "Red Planet", "Tunnel in the Sky" or "The Rolling Stones". Hey, one of the anime I'm watching this series has a number of story parallels to "Tunnel in the Sky". I really like anime.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (W+kMI)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (fuK7c)
But he spoke perfect AMerican English on the radio when he mimicked that cop he had just killed. He hears the guy for two seconds and can totally copy his American voice and sound but then goes back to his unbelievably broken English for the rest of the movie.
This is part of what I was talking about with the ridiculous storyline they wove. You can put this sort of shit off for 1 movie and enjoy the action ... but only for 1 movie. You can't make sequels out of crap like this.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (EcqY2)
I have a feeling it will deliver on that level.
...
sure if you like dark and muddy images which hide inferior VFX
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (Jk+3L)
If lucky, Hurricane Dora or whatever it is will hit ChiTown and they can file for all that sweet tax money relief.
Posted by: Cabeza Fromage at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (UFLLM)
Posted by: Rev. Dr. Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (z8c2c)
Posted by: Matt Groeing at August 30, 2019 01:28 PM
Dude. This kind of reference is not why we come here!
Posted by: Quentin T. at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (DMUuz)
hah, that's a good one. I might just call it "Low T" from now on.
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (PbpT7)
Problem is the state is just as bad if not worse.
Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (MAstk)
I have a feeling it will deliver on that level.
...
sure if you like dark and muddy images which hide inferior VFX
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:30 PM (PbpT7)
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Earlish pass stuff. We almost never see final VFX in trailers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (iikV8)
I'm gonna go peal some potatoes.
Posted by: Beatle Bailey at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (WSVNe)
Oh and I've heard the John Conner get whacked 5 minutes into the film and the hispanic girl becomes "the one"
Also one of the cringey things in the trailor is Linda Hamilton saying, "I'll be back!"
It's probably the most forced line in movie history.
Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (88mwq)
we see that the images are dark and muddy
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (PbpT7)
Kurt doesn't like capitalism after failing as a Dow index analyst.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (2JpPM)
What do they want to do?
They should call up de Blasio's wife - I've heard she misplaced $850 million, so maybe she could find it and send it their way?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM (RKQ/v)
* The human they would want to save is Ob+mao*
so no. Just send the machines to Chicago.
Posted by: Matt Groeing at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (9FQSz)
Might be worth a post.
Posted by: Dogstar at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (wUGui)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (Wx/+I)
One scene in the trailer a T splits into two T's of the same size. Where did all that extra Mass come from?
Another scene, the 90 lb scrawny terminator girl is swings a huge chain that must weigh more than her, or at least the same if she is some kind of secret unobtanium metal. How can she spin that chain so fast and not fling herself across the room?
Whats it all magic and stuff?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless
I agree. it's not some complicated "laws of physics" that are routinely being violated, but really basic conservation of momentum and mass. All the time in most of these movies.
Also, it happens in kung fu movies (and movies with kung fu fights) all the time too. Some 100-lb Asian guy standing stock still will put a "Buddha's Hand" strike on a 280-pound baddies chest and sending him flying backwards through a brick wall. Etc. Yeah.
Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (Q3dyo)
So I haven't seen any of the others. Why do we need a "dark and gritty" reboot? The first film was pretty darn gritty all by itself.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (ClOmq)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 30, 2019 01:31 PM (2JpPM)
Heh.
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (aS1PU)
What do they want to do?
Ask the woke and broke state of Illinois for money.
Oh that and build a casino.
Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:25 PM
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800 million?
That's nothing.
The Chicago PD, Chicago Fire, and Chicago Teachers Pension Plans are short a few BILLION dollars.
Posted by: rd at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (EK+Pw)
Having said that, I'll give a lot of credit to T2 in that the Hamilton character didn't feel forced. Like the movie Alien with Ripley I never heard anyone grousing about how unbelievable it was that some chick was acting like a fighter.
The stuff now is so forced and so clunky and lol that I simply refuse to partake.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (j3npP)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (NHx/I)
Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (CrNzI)
Is the girl who "IS" Sarah Connor Latinx?
Please tell me there is not some cosmic illegal alien subplot?
Posted by: barbarausa at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (W7IZQ)
Also, it happens in kung fu movies (and movies with kung fu fights) all the time too. Some 100-lb Asian guy standing stock still will put a "Buddha's Hand" strike on a 280-pound baddies chest and sending him flying backwards through a brick wall. Etc. Yeah.
Posted by: zombie at August 30, 2019 01:32 PM (Q3dyo)
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I don't think many kung fu movies pretend to be realistic. You've got to take the rules of the universe of each movie as they come, allow for suspension of disbelief.
No, the little guy easily wailing on the big guy isn't realistic, but it can be fun which is often the sole goal of those kinds of movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (iikV8)
Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy
i heard that too.
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Xander Crews at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (miXS6)
Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy
i heard that too.
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (PbpT7)
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Something to look forward to, then.
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (qC1Sy)
Posted by: Iblis at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (NHx/I)
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 30, 2019
*
*
The story I've always heard is that Cameron wanted him to play Reese, the human soldier. He said, no; I want to play the Terminator. Now whether that was because it was the title role, because he knew that all eyes and minds would be focused on that character onscreen or off, or because he knew his acting skills were not that great, I don't know.
But he made the right call.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (ClOmq)
'"The woke and broke city of Chicago has an $838 million dollar budget deficit. "
At least they have a black, lesbian mayor. That makes it all better
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (B79RR)
you east coasters are already on the downhill side, coasting to a three day weekend, half in the bag and getting high as fuck
it's 1030 here on the west coast.
fuck all yall
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: ShainS -- in registry of disreputable federal law-abiding commenters at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (vvKa3)
They didn't choose the Vineyard just to get away from POC.
It was tax evasion too.
Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (MAstk)
Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy
i heard that too.
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (PbpT7)
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If they are continuing with the idea that "there is no fate but what me make for ourselves", the idea of needing John Conner becomes moot. John Conner himself isn't the one fated to stop Skynet, the survivors can make their own fate.
Oh, and yeah, it's done for grrlpower. I don't disagree. Just noting that it can fit thematically.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (iikV8)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (O8WFE)
Posted by: barbarausa at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (W7IZQ)
No, that was Aliens. The douchy corporate guy was trying to smuggle some aliens back in Newt and Ripley.
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (aS1PU)
no because the new girl is the new sarah connor who will give birth to the next john connor
there is Fate indeed -- it's called "repetition of previous plots"
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (PbpT7)
fuck all yall
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)
Going in at 4PM, working all weekend out of a suitcase.
Feel better ?
Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (VLjz7)
Another scene, the 90 lb scrawny terminator girl is swings a huge chain that must weigh more than her, or at least the same if she is some kind of secret unobtanium metal. How can she spin that chain so fast and not fling herself across the room?
Whats it all magic and stuff?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless
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Well, ants can haul more than their own weight I think. Could be a myth.
But isn't Terminator Girl a robot anyway, and doesn't need to accomplish feats with bones and sinews and store energy in mere muscles? Maybe I should watch the trailer...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (13CQC)
>>Oh and I've heard the John Conner get whacked 5 minutes into the film and the hispanic girl becomes "the one"
Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy
Just like Thor being the Portman little bint, Iron man getting her vagina steamed, and every other thing in the goddamned entertainment universe being changed to some preferably minority girl to cater to an audience that does not exist.
Twitter is the death knell of civilization.
As wiser men than me have said, "Your opinion is just not that good. Maybe you shouldn't publicize it."
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (w+Z9D)
The story I've always heard is that Cameron wanted him to play Reese, the human soldier. He said, no; I want to play the Terminator. Now whether that was because it was the title role, because he knew that all eyes and minds would be focused on that character onscreen or off, or because he knew his acting skills were not that great, I don't know.
But he made the right call.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (ClOmq)
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I think there are a couple of conflicting stories around.
The one I know is that Lance Henrickson was slotted to play the Terminator then Cameron found Arnold and just knew he'd make a great bad guy.
The idea behind Lance being the Terminator (easily hidden in plain sight) got reused in T2 with the T1000 played by Robert Patrick.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (iikV8)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (NHx/I)
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Well the taxpayers are just going to have to tighten their belt, do with out some things and not live like they used to so the union members can live better. We owe it to those noble public employees. They do so much for us all.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (pw+jk)
Just as James Bond can die and his "007" designation can be re-assigned to a black, female agent . . .but that sure as Hell doesn't make her Bond.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (bDqIh)
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Terminator was ahead of its time with its girl power, now its just of its time.
Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (sX1BW)
If they are continuing with the idea that "there is no fate but what me make for ourselves", the idea of needing John Conner becomes moot. John Conner himself isn't the one fated to stop Skynet, the survivors can make their own fate.
Oh, and yeah, it's done for grrlpower. I don't disagree. Just noting that it can fit thematically.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (iikV
While technically consistent with the constantly undermined theme, it kind of wrecks the premise of the prior movies. I don't know that they ever really supported the theme before tbh, it was just something they said while seemingly stuck in a time loop sort of affair.
Posted by: Someguy at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (4i8PS)
Posted by: x at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Obamaboro, VT and proud of it !!!! at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (qM84C)
Whaaaaaat?!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:33 PM (bDqIh)
She and her wise-cracking space raccoon sidekick send a Federation heavy cruiser into the planet killer causing Skynet to reset and begin bringing back wooly mammoths and sabretooth tigers.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (sGtp+)
#Biden2020
Posted by: Gropin' Joe Biden at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (4e+hS)
Posted by: Sooner at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (Fs5vw)
The T-1000 was a good friend of mine. When we lost Fonzy in that tragic boating accident, the T-1000 turned and said to me, now this is a true story, he said to me now I know why you cry. When I asked him why, he told me you shut up now sir and stop asking questions. Because he died. He DIED!! Fonzy was dead and no one was gonna bring him back. Not President Jimmy Carter or his wife Nell who was on a little show you might have heard of called Gimme a Break. Me and the Terminator cried for days until the Taco Bell we ordered came. Tell you the truth I didn't even want tacos anymore. True story.
Posted by: Joe Biden
I'm sorry, but that one belongs in the Hall of Fame somewhere. Crying I'm laughing so hard.
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (w+Z9D)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: exdem13 at August
CoughAlitacough
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Alita's source work was a translated manga (source of many anime) which itself received a two-part anime back when. Apparently Cameron really likes anime too. I think he contributed to the Wokinator film just to get Alita 2 greenlit.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (W+kMI)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:36 PM (iikV
While technically consistent with the constantly undermined theme, it kind of wrecks the premise of the prior movies. I don't know that they ever really supported the theme before tbh, it was just something they said while seemingly stuck in a time loop sort of affair.
Posted by: Someguy at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (4i8PS)
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Considering the excised original ending to T2 (which doesn't count, to be fair) where Sarah Conner and her son are in a peaceful future, it was definitely the idea that Sarah and humanity could change their fate.
Removing that ending and allowing T3 to get made directly contradicted the basic idea of the first two movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (iikV8)
I'd rather see Pluto Nash 2 with Randy Quaid becoming a terminator.
i'm starting to fear we never see leonard part 7
Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (sGtp+)
Dude, you've just summarized T5.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (hLRSq)
Now I want to go see your version. Especially the wise-cracking space raccoon.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (O8WFE)
Posted by: torabora at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:38 PM (hLRSq)
Now I want to go see your version. Especially the wise-cracking space raccoon.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:40 PM (O8WFE)
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"Yes! More work!"
-Bradley Cooper
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (iikV8)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (NHx/I)
Posted by: exdem13 at August
CoughAlitacough
Posted by: Vanya at August 30, 2019 01:23 PM (+UfAd)
Even moreso, Armitage III.
Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (sm6Pk)
The idea behind Lance being the Terminator (easily hidden in plain sight) got reused in T2 with the T1000 played by Robert Patrick.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba
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Seems to have also been reused in Aliens. Lance played the good humanoid.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (13CQC)
Posted by: Slave to the World Engine at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (THn9o)
Considering the excised original ending to T2 (which doesn't count, to be fair) where Sarah Conner and her son are in a peaceful future, it was definitely the idea that Sarah and humanity could change their fate.
Removing that ending and allowing T3 to get made directly contradicted the basic idea of the first two movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:39 PM (iikV
Huh, I had no idea there was an original ending to t2 with an actual payoff.
Posted by: Someguy at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (4i8PS)
realistic. You've got to take the rules of the universe of each movie as
they come, allow for suspension of disbelief.
No, the little guy easily wailing on the big guy isn't realistic,
but it can be fun which is often the sole goal of those kinds of movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:34 PM (iikV
I can take it somewhat in a kung fu movie because they are supposed to be somewhat flights of fancy; secret mysticism that lets the smaller fighter "punch up" to quote Barry. But in most other "real world"movies, they laws of physics getting repealed cause it looks cool is just dumb.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (ymnmz)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (Pg+x7)
This will always be my Favorite Imaginary Movie I Tell My Grandkids About To Convince Them The Olde Dayes Were Better
Posted by: Sharkman at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (6qa8a)
In fairness (as I point out in tomorrow's review) ALL trailers look awful.
Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (CcUfv)
I'd rather see Pluto Nash 2 with Randy Quaid becoming a terminator.
i'm starting to fear we never see leonard part 7
Posted by: Anachronda
our Skynyrd tribute band is called Lynyrd Part 6. Biden word of honor.
Posted by: x at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (llxrS)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (4e+hS)
The Terminator, unable to cope with the dissonance, pulls out it's own wiring and dies.
The End.
Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (VLjz7)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Sharkman at August 30, 2019 01:42 PM (6qa8a)
I mean, wouldn't one have to get permission from Joss Whedon?
Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (sm6Pk)
so not fair
you east coasters are already on the downhill side, coasting to a three day weekend, half in the bag and getting high as fuck
it's 1030 here on the west coast.
fuck all yall
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (d7Ww2)
Bloody Marys, it's whats for breakfast
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (5l6gb)
Because otherwise that's the opposite of equality/progress in exactly the same way that Historic First Black President being given a pass because black was deeply-seated and disgusting racism.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman at August 30, 2019 01:44 PM (kRCmK)
The Terminator, unable to cope with the dissonance, pulls out it's own wiring and dies.
The End.
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I'm starting to think delaying Judgment Day was not a smart move.
Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2019 01:27 PM (veoSD)
Shiny.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (k76MH)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:37 PM (bDqIh)
Just don't think I can get into, My name is Bond. Shaleeka Bond.
Posted by: Sooner at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (oVJmc)
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It's more important to keep the creative team working.
I remember back in the day when Shaun of the Dead came out, I wanted more than anything in the world of movies a direct sequel.
Instead, they announced something called Hot Fuzz.
"Dammit! I wanted From Dusk til Shaun!"
And then I watched Hot Fuzz and I'm probably much happier with that than I would ever have been with a sequel to to Shaun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (iikV8)
Posted by: mrp at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (Pqytn)
The Terminator, unable to cope with the dissonance, pulls out it's own wiring and dies.
The End.
Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:43 PM (VLjz7)
So, we're safe from terminators. Good to know.
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (aS1PU)
mind you, the second season was a boring waste of time. even Shirley Manson couldn't save it.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (NHx/I)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:41 PM (NHx/I)
It was easy!
Posted by: Kurt is a sock-muppet at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:45 PM (oVJmc)
"Look at it this way. In a hundred years, who's gonna care?" (Sarah's coworker at the diner, when the bratty kid has tipped his ice cream into her apron. The joke here is that human historians in 2084 would be very concerned with everything that happened on Sarah's last day as an "everyday jane")
Reese: "That terminator is out there. It can't be stopped. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse. And it absolutely will not stop until you are dead!"
"Viene la tormenta!"
"What did he say?"
"He said a storm is coming."
(Sarah looks off into the distance, considering the future and the human-cyborg apocalyse that looms)
"I know. . . ."
(Thunderous music as she slams the jeep into gear and drives off into the mountains)
There was *nothing* half as good as this kind of dialog in T2. If any of the later sequels came close to this, I'd like to know.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (ClOmq)
I just can't work out... why does it have a metal skeleton under the skin? Its clearly liquid, so what's with that design?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (KZzsI)
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Haven't we done the hot terminator chick already?
And why is Carrie Fisher in this? For someone who died a few years ago, she is turning up in a lot of dead franchises.
Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (sX1BW)
How about Dread Pirate Robert?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (bDqIh)
Critical Drinker sums it up.
https://youtu.be/0EN4yJLkYLs
Some stick figure androgynous boy simply doesn't cut it as a hero.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (SsjTc)
Actually, I remember at the time that people were very interested in the "flash-forwards" of the robot vs. humanity war, because Cameron made it look so cool.
He probably couldn't have sustained that for a whole movie just for budgetary/FX reasons not to mention dubious writing skills, but that would've been a more interesting approach: Having saved John Conner, show the future being reclaimed from the 'bots.
But then, as Carpenter proved with "Halloween 3", people don't go to sequels to see something different.
Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (CcUfv)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (NHx/I)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (Pg+x7)
All I know about cars is that the fish goes on the bicycle.
202 Ford wont start. Great electrical, healthy battery, turns over like $50 Ho, just won'y quite catch. Almost, you can feel it aching to get off, can't quite get there.
Thoughts?
Posted by: D. I. Pshite at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (UFLLM)
Determinism/Fate/destiny
Humanism/Transhumanism
Human morality as interpreted by an AI
Themes the Terminator franchise actually does focus on:
Explosions
Arnold's sagging pecs
Gurrl power!
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (KUaJL)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (O8WFE)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (NHx/I)
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Thank God.
Posted by: Death Star Grips at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (sX1BW)
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But this way we don't have to pay anybody for our advertising placement vehicles, h8r.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (kRCmK)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (Pg+x7)
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Adult scifi. There's so little of that. I am looking forward to it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (iikV8)
Terminator vs Robocop
who wins?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)
TJ Laser
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (5l6gb)
who wins?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)
Probably Robocop, since he's who you play as in the "Robocop vs. Terminator" video game from the 90s.
Posted by: Allie at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:47 PM (Pg+x7)
I read this morning that they made it to explore toxic masculinity.
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (CcUfv)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Ha at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (MAstk)
cocaine really IS a hell of a drug!
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (NHx/I)
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Think how good these scenes will be after the Green New Deal takes effect.
Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: wrong movie at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (7wztW)
Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:49 PM (CcUfv)
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The World's End is one of the most intricately structured and satisfying movie comedies I've seen in some time. I love that movie so much.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (iikV8)
TJM, have you seen "Juan of the Dead"? Cuban zombie satire.
Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (2DEMZ)
Lucas sold her in the Star Wars sale. She's now Disney property in perpetuity.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (oVJmc)
TJM, have you seen "Juan of the Dead"? Cuban zombie satire.
Posted by: Hands at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (786Ro)
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I have heard of it, but I have not seen it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (iikV8)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: wrong movie at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (7wztW)
kids in the playground get nuked. Theater is dead silent. Not a sound.
Then one guy in the front lets out a "Whoah!" Whole theater breaks out
laughing.
That's gotta hurt!
Posted by: george costanza at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (Dh1wo)
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Computer.
Order a cheap OBD2 reader ($30? Harbor Freight might sell them, too) and search for the code online for what to buy and replace.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (kRCmK)
Skynet sends the Terminator back to get John Connor, but misses the date and sends the Terminator to 1930's Germany. The Terminator gets weirded out and thinks that this could be the way to get John Connor by signing up with the Nazis.
The British get wind of the unstoppable Nazi battle-bot and decide that it has to be destroyed with secret agents, but they are betrayed and mostly killed by the Terminator. A young Ian Fleming is the only agent to survive and he has to recruit allies to figure out how to take down the Terminator before the Nazis launch WWII and win, destroying John Connors family line before his mother can be born.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (hLRSq)
From what I can tell (from the awful trailer and really awful poster) Brad Pitt is going into space to stop some super-explosive, which I can only assume is "Solarinite".
And, as we all recall, Solarinite was the thing the aliens in "Plan 9" came to earth to stop us from inventing.
Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (CcUfv)
I think they made it to explore masculinity but that the "toxic" shit is coming from the soy contingent in the media.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (NHx/I)
Apocalypto isn't a chase movie? How on Earth not?
Posted by: Vanya
No kidding! That's quite literally 2/3 of the entire movie. Then
you have the awesome reconstruction of Tenochtitlan and the hearts
getting ripped out while beating (realistically), it was one of the best
movies ever made from a set, costume, and effects standpoint.
and an astronomical treatise. Our Hero escapes during a total eclipse and that very night, while he's being chased around the forest, his wife looks wistfully at the full moon, thinking of him.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 30, 2019 01:50 PM (2DEMZ)
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If you want an interesting backstory to a movie, read about how that came into existence.
The original script was fucking bonkers. I wish we lived in a world where we got a fucking bonkers and terrible Terminator movie set in the future instead of a sort of silly and boring Terminator movie set in the future.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (iikV8)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 30, 2019 01:51 PM (O7MnT)
Skynet sends the Terminator back to get John Connor, but misses the date and sends the Terminator to 1930's Germany. The Terminator gets weirded out and thinks that this could be the way to get John Connor by signing up with the Nazis.
'Germanator?'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (oVJmc)
At least Fast and Furious knows they have to kick it up a notch, and have done cars jumping Dubai towers, cars parachuting onto an isolated mountain pass, and cars on a frozen lake being chased by a submarine.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (bDqIh)
Skynet sends the Terminator back to get John Connor, but misses the date and sends the Terminator to 1930's Germany. The Terminator gets weirded out and thinks that this could be the way to get John Connor by signing up with the Nazis.
'Germanator?'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (oVJmc)
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"You have a strange accent..."
-SS officer in a tavern
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (iikV8)
And, as we all recall, Solarinite was the thing the aliens in "Plan 9" came to earth to stop us from inventing.
When you have the solarinite, you have nothing.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (oVJmc)
"Jah, here come da Germans."
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 30, 2019 01:52 PM (5l6gb)
i love carrie fisher's line about lucas owning the merchandizing rights -
every time she looks in the mirror she has to send george 5 dollars.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (Pg+x7)
Unless Skynet rebuilt the time travel device.
Or unless something stopped the humans from destroying it as they told Reese they were going to do.
But I never heard that mentioned by anybody in T2. Did it ever get brought up in any of the other films, or the TV series?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (ClOmq)
It is not pretty for MANkind.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (CcUfv)
The story I've always heard is that Cameron wanted him to play Reese, the human soldier. He said, no; I want to play the Terminator. Now whether that was because it was the title role, because he knew that all eyes and minds would be focused on that character onscreen or off, or because he knew his acting skills were not that great, I don't know.
But he made the right call.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:35 PM (ClOmq)
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I think there are a couple of conflicting stories around.
The one I know is that Lance Henrickson was slotted to play the Terminator then Cameron found Arnold and just knew he'd make a great bad guy.
The idea behind Lance being the Terminator (easily hidden in plain sight) got reused in T2 with the T1000 played by Robert Patrick.
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Having seen Aliens many many times, I can see Lance Henrickson as the Terminator and doing a good job. But Ah-nuld was the man. He got it down, the cold inhuman expression, the matching speech pattern, the hidden strength under control, and the sense of inexorable pursuit. It was his role after that.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (W+kMI)
How about Dread Pirate Robert?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 30, 2019 01:46 PM (bDqIh)
Let me think about this.
Posted by: Sooner at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (NHx/I)
Young Moslem feminist fighters take on Signor Ferrari at the Blue Parrot, then in a surprising turn, marry their brothers and get elected to the US Congress.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (FTlwv)
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (kRCmK)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 01:53 PM (ClOmq)
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The opening voice over in T2 retcons Reese's exposition dump a bit by saying (or implying) that 4 people got sent back at once (3 terminators and 1 person total).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (iikV8)
Its secret weapon was pairing the right wine with cheese, and turning over lists of all the Jews.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (O8WFE)
OK, am I the only one who sees "Ad Astra" as a spiritual successor to "Plan 9 From Outer Space"?
i hadn't put it in precisely those terms, but, yeah.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (sGtp+)
Geriatric Terminator - There is no more pudding on the dessert buffet. I'll be back.
Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (VLjz7)
Posted by: joey biden at August 30, 2019 01:55 PM (Dh1wo)
Geriatric Terminator - There is no more pudding on the dessert buffet. I'll be back.
Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (VLjz7)
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It's nothing compared to Rocky 5...thousand.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019 01:55 PM (iikV8)
Posted by: Skip at August 30, 2019 01:55 PM (BbGew)
Terminator 16; The Early Birdening
Geriatric Terminator - There is no more pudding on the dessert buffet. I'll be back.
Posted by: The White Devil at August 30, 2019 01:54 PM (VLjz7)
I'll be back.....at 5 right after my nap
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 30, 2019 01:55 PM (ymnmz)
Young Moslem feminist fighters take on Signor Ferrari at the Blue Parrot, then in a surprising turn, marry their brothers and get elected to the US Congress.
Of all the vegan soy latte joints in all the world, xe had to walk into mine.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM (O8WFE)
Thank you, Anachronda.
Sometimes I think I'm the only one who appreciates the classics.
Posted by: moviegique at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM (CcUfv)
Posted by: SH at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM (sX1BW)
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Of all the vegan soy latte joints in all the world, xe had to walk into mine.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM
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Made me laugh.
Posted by: irright at August 30, 2019 01:56 PM (pMGkg)
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Terminator vs Robocop
who wins?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)
TJ Laser
missile mike
Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:57 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (w+Z9D)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:57 PM (sGtp+)
I'd buy that for a dollar
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (5l6gb)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (2DEMZ)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 30, 2019 01:58 PM (FTlwv)
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Terminator vs Robocop
who wins?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 30, 2019 01:48 PM (d7Ww2)
TJ Laser
missile mike
Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2019 01:57 PM (sGtp+)
I believe Dark Horse comics settled this issue years ago.
Robocop, for plot reasons.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 30, 2019 01:59 PM (xJa6I)
https://tinyurl.com/y2qpy6pg
She just stabs a little boy in the face and... nobody jumps on her?
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at August 30, 2019 01:59 PM (rP4OC)
Definitely. There will be one about Bill Kris...
Never mind.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 30, 2019 01:59 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019
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Not to mention the fact that Arnold was so much physically bigger than Michael Biehn and Linda Hamilton, so that he looked even more terrifying.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 02:00 PM (ClOmq)
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Longtime lobbyist and former congressman Vin Weber resigns from consulting firm - The Washington Post
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But OMFG Nothing is Happening
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (BqBId)
The opening voice over in T2 retcons Reese's exposition dump a bit by saying (or implying) that 4 people got sent back at once (3 terminators and 1 person total).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 30, 2019
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I'd forgotten that. Okay, say it took some time to prep a Terminator for the jump. One is sent, then a wait; then Two; and then Three -- which is when Reese and John Conner break in and realize what's happened, and they send Reese back after whichever one he can catch.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (ClOmq)
and an astronomical treatise. Our Hero escapes during a total eclipse and that very night, while he's being chased around the forest, his wife looks wistfully at the full moon, thinking of him.
Posted by: Anachronda
LOL, never noticed that. It's a miracle!
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (w+Z9D)
Did you ever think of that, huh?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (KUaJL)
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No, what you are seeing is the most overused cinematic technique of the past 20 years. Film everything with a dark lens filter, then edit the film so there are only 6 colors in one scene and all the actors look like they are in a Spanish master's painting.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019 02:04 PM (W+kMI)
Posted by: exdem13 at August 30, 2019
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That dark bluish-gray look. I keep saying, "Have these people never heard of Technicolor?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 30, 2019 02:05 PM (ClOmq)
Kenny Rogers looks great in that. I just wished they would of fleshed out Ricky Schroder's character more.
Posted by: bananaDream at August 30, 2019 02:05 PM (l6b3d)
338 But if the terminator succeeds then John Connor would never be born, so Skynet would never need to send the terminator back!
Did you ever think of that, huh?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 30, 2019 02:03 PM (KUaJL)
I think the terminator would then leave a note or talk to baby skynet.
Posted by: Someguy at August 30, 2019 02:05 PM (4i8PS)
But part of that China lore is how they are pure, while the West is full of dirty capitalists. hahahaha ... China has young prostitution everywhere ... despite it being illegal. But they still get to mock us dirty Westerners ... because the world revolves around China, center of the universe.
These China ADV guys take on that topic ... young daughters from out back often get sold into prostitution, to pay for education for the (more important) son. Not all Chinese participate, but it is prevalent everywhere. ...
youtube link
https://tinyurl.com/yylwz93h
Posted by: illiniwek at August 30, 2019 02:06 PM (Cus5s)
That's a reason that Limitless (movie and TV show) was so interesting. It would use warm hues to indicate the influence of an intelligence boosting drug
Posted by: imp at August 30, 2019 02:07 PM (w+Z9D)
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at August 30, 2019 02:07 PM (rP4OC)
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Grump928(C)
Native Texan and Alabama Alumn
Twice as Smug as You
at August 30, 2019 02:32 PM (tFWWx)
Really?
Really?
Oh sure, no symbolism there. Naaaaahhhh.
Posted by: RationalistYoda at August 30, 2019 02:39 PM (+GhAV)
Posted by: Marcus T at August 30, 2019 02:44 PM (8ts9m)
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 30, 2019 01:09 PM (Kpl3J)
I'm not so sure that's true. I believe there are many transgenders M-F on t.v.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at August 30, 2019 02:52 PM (+CiEK)
Posted by: Fletch at August 30, 2019 02:54 PM (Wxzj0)
I mean, for fuck's sake, her character was tied with Weaver's for being synonymous with "badass action movie chick" for anyone who isn't braindead.
Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at August 30, 2019 02:57 PM (67XdO)
Posted by: In the bunker at August 30, 2019 03:16 PM (dzwmu)
Posted by: Duderino at August 30, 2019 06:35 PM (fvR8v)
How long would it take for Skynet to realize the Terminator had failed? I'll tell you how long... it would know immediately. After all, it sent that assassin back in time and the situation didn't instantly change. So, why didn't it then send two or three Terminators back in time right away? And then four or five Terminators if that didn't work?
Well, maybe it took a tremendous amount of time and resources and preparation just to send one back in time. But that still leaves another question...
Kyle Reese followed the Terminator back to 1984, and ended up becoming the father of John Connor. John Connor thus wouldn't have existed if the Terminator hadn't been sent back in time. So... why did Skynet send the Terminator back in time? Without it having already done that, there should've been no John Connor to begin with...
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These games simple and even amateurs can try their luck. Lethal Weapon ~ Mel
Gibson again, this time teamed up with Danny Glover.
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