Joe Biden: The United States Can "Afford" to Absorb Another 2 Million Destitute Immigrants and Refugees, and It's "Bizarre" That We're Not Already Doing So

He also says we must "unite" -- as a single people, a single citizenship, I guess -- with the world's immigrants and refugees.

Kerry Picket at the Washington Examiner:



Joe Biden called for the United States to increase the number of immigrants and refugees from its current acceptance rate.

During a campaign stop hosted by the Asian & Latino Coalition PAC Thursday night, the former vice president pointed to nations with present conflicts that the U.S. should be accepting refugees from.

"We should change the priorities in terms of whether or not who is able to get in line. We should be uniting family. We should be uniting them. We should also be looking at the whole idea of what's going on in terms of Diaspora that's occurring on across the world," Biden proposed, noting the Trump White House refugee admission policy difference since he left the White House.


"Four million people are fleeing Venezuela. What do we do? We're not allowing temporary status at all like we did in Haiti," he said.

PS, the "temporary" refugees from Haiti have been here for almost ten years.

There is no such thing as "temporary" in the federal government, least of all temporary protected status for immigrants and refugees.

Anyone think the DACA card holders are merely here on a "temporary" basis?

The Trump administration has already cut refugee admissions by one third this year to 30,000.

Let me put it another way. We could afford to take in a heartbeat another two million. The idea that a country of 330 million cannot afford people, who are in desperate need and who are justifiably weak, and fleeing depression is absolutely bizarre," Biden said.

So, Open Borders then, yeah?

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:19 PM




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1 In?

Posted by: Golfman at August 12, 2019 02:21 PM (ZtOSx)

2 Yep.

Posted by: Golfman at August 12, 2019 02:21 PM (ZtOSx)

3 rd

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 12, 2019 02:21 PM (3H9h1)

4 How about this:

We take in 2 million more and then we shut it down completely? I mean, guns on the border walls shut down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:22 PM (iikV8)

5 How many people are you putting up in your house, you rich fuck?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 02:22 PM (k81AA)

6 th

Posted by: FrodoB at August 12, 2019 02:22 PM (vNyGK)

7 2 million. Science!!!

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:22 PM (90T4r)

8 I'd like to let Mr. Biden know I fully support his candidacy and hope he wins the nomination of his party.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:22 PM (oVJmc)

9 Also, they're just as good as white people.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 12, 2019 02:22 PM (1ISKN)

10 LOL get fucked

Posted by: steevy at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (l9mVC)

11 So what happens when refugee number 2,000,001 shows up? THEN we slam the door?

Please.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (GBteo)

12 So if we assume China's population is ~1.5 billion, obviously China can afford to accept 10 million illegals.

Ship 'em there.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (k76MH)

13 I saw the Temporary Somalis open for Angry Samoans at the Roxxy back in April.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (NE8ji)

14 We should increase the number of women assaulted for daring to question me.

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (NeSSd)

15
China has a population four and a half times that of the US.

Shouldn't they go first?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (AzW6q)

16 You have to admit, refugees from shitholes are pretty consistent. They jump from one slave master to the next.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (9Om/r)

17 Did he actually say 'fleeing depression?'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (oVJmc)

18 What the politicians don't say is that they need these immigrants to counter the baby boomers promissory note that is called Social Security.

Precisely why Paul Ryan ran for the hills.

Posted by: Golfman at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (ZtOSx)

19 Fuck you Joe.

Posted by: Guzalot at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (prSvo)

20 DACA?

What's that?

- 2020 Democrat Presidential Candidates

Posted by: Just Lily at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (EWrjq)

21 Why do we want them anyway??? Where is the value added aspect for our country???

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (90T4r)

22 So needy, weak, and depressed gets one in?

Great.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (H/pb5)

23 How about this:

We take in 2 million more and then we shut it down completely? I mean, guns on the border walls shut down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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This is acceptable...

Posted by: lin-duh at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (EAA/O)

24 *intuits*
12th!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob -if yiou can't be young again, be immature at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (O5bec)

25 Throws up hands... I give up

Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (O2RFr)

26 Lolgf

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (bOH3/)

27 Who did I take in?

NOBODY

Posted by: Biden ...Hairhuffer at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (JwD1I)

28 As far as I'm cnncerned, America is full.

SRO.

Go back. We don't have room for you.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 12, 2019 02:24 PM (ClOmq)

29 Someone needs to ask Biden a simple question or two.
How did you arrive at the 2M number? What changes after that? Show your work.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 02:24 PM (T6t7i)

30 2 million more Democratic voters and even more when they want their families to join them.

Why wouldn't the Democrats want this?

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 02:24 PM (Sdc4d)

31 "Some of their daughters smell incredible," added the Former Vice Presiden .

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 02:24 PM (NE8ji)

32 Seems like a good reason to invade Venezuela. They have oil too. Didn't we do this for the Euros cuz they couldn't handle the Balkans?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:24 PM (2LelM)

33 How many people are you putting up in your house, you rich fuck?
Posted by: RoyalOil


Peasants aren't allowed in Montchanin. We Greenville wannabes can't allow it.

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 02:24 PM (NeSSd)

34 I'll take you in, punta.

Posted by: Esperanza Gomez at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (QwmrN)

35 Why? Just once, I want these open-border idiots to tell me what LEGAL justification there is for allowing people who broke our laws to not be punished.


And citing Emma Lazarus is NOT ALLOWED!

Posted by: pookysgirl, rooting for injuries at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (XKZwp)

36 "Unite." Yeah, don't think so. You go ahead and unite on your own, Joe.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (RD7QR)

37 It doesn't even occur to him that these are PER YEAR numbers he's talking about. So he want's us to take in an extra 20 million people over the next 10 years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (Kpl3J)

38 14 We should increase the number of women assaulted for daring to question me.
Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (NeSSd)

Eat some paste Joe, you get loopy when you're hungry.

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden's 'Helper' at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (k76MH)

39 It's time for this madness to end.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (J+mig)

40 the Asian & Latino Coalition PAC


Of course. That makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (oVJmc)

41 The way our immigration law works is once a person is here, it's incredibly difficult to remove them. Then when we track people down who have been ordered deported by a judge (usually after years of litigation) we're "heartless".

Got it.

I have a suggestion for Biden. Why don't we just roll 3rd ID out of Stewart and 1st and 5th Armored out of Bliss, then take every country south of the Rio Grande. It would be faster than moving them all here.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (8ts9m)

42 Joe needs to understand the difference between "can afford" and "can pay for." Let's assume there are no bad externalities (like crime, changes to culture, etc.) and it just a matter of cost.

If I have $30k saved up in the bank and I earn $50k a year, I can pay for a $30k car - but I can't really afford to buy a $30k car.

Or, to use something closer to Biden's approach, if I hear $250k a year and have $2m in debt, I can't afford to spend $15k on a car or anything else because regardless of my relatively high income and the relatively cheap car, my debt service is consuming all of income.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (I2dne)

43 A temporary immigrant is like a temporary tax. They will both be with us forever.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (FiUMj)

44 Let's do a trade.

I'll deport 25 Million illegal aliens and you give me 2 Million Eastern European Refugees, Joe.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (NE8ji)

45 Like I said... 2 million, science!! Just a made up number by a senile old man who has no interest in the matter anyway.

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (90T4r)

46 Talk about a preview of life in America if the Dems win.

Nothing for Americans who are in the middle class--everything for everyone else.

And racial antagonism to assault any who dare complain

Seriously: Name one middle class idea the Dems have right now.

In the other corner: Trump--Make the Middle Class Great Again

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (k81AA)

47 I am willing to take in two million capitalism starved Venezuelan refugees if we can deport two million America hating Leftists simultaneously.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (O9JR8)

48 It doesn't even occur to him that these are PER YEAR
numbers he's talking about. So he want's us to take in an extra 20
million people over the next 10 years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:25 PM (Kpl3J)


add their family members and you're talking 100 million easy.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (9Om/r)

49 The competition to win the nomination by taking up positions that are not viable during the general election continues apace.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Official Distributor for the Old Appalachian Wrath Shop at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (hLRSq)

50
I favor Open Borders for all those under 14 1/2 years of age.

It's for the children.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (UFLLM)

51 21 Why do we want them anyway??? Where is the value added aspect for our country???
Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (90T4r)

See 18.

They're hoping WTSHTF, they'll be long gone.

Posted by: Golfman at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (ZtOSx)

52 We can take in legal immigrants ... Biteme is such an ass.

Posted by: torabora at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (JwD1I)

53 Were any immigrants grabbed by Biden when he said this?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (8ts9m)

54 So lets put 2M Venezuelans into Baltimore and see what happens? Be sure to build a wall around Baltimore first.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (2LelM)

55 23
How about this:



We take in 2 million more and then we shut it down completely? I mean, guns on the border walls shut down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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This is acceptable...

Posted by: lin-duh


Agreed, provided there is:1) A complete end to chain migration. Merit only from now on.2) Construction of the complete border wall.3) Rigorous enforcement of all labor laws, with violators expelled from the country.4) A one for one swap with any previously admitted immigrant now on any kind of public assistance.
Deal?

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (T6t7i)

56 The 90s Democrats: Illegal immigration is a problem.

The 10s Democrats: Bring us 2 million more!

Winning strategy!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (iikV8)

57 2 million Eastern European chicks.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (bOH3/)

58 So he's running on a platform of "your taxes aren't high enough and your wages are too high." That should go over well in the general.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (IWZO4)

59 Ask any liberal how then personally plan on taking care of an immigrant family and all you'll get is a blank stare.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (3H9h1)

60 Joe Biden - The stupid is staggering. Joe's gone full retard.

Posted by: Archer at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (gmo/4)

61 LOL. "fleeing depression?" "Diaspora"? Joe wants more Joos? well the weather machine needs manning 24/7 so....


Posted by: Cannibal Bob -if you can't be young again, be immature at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (O5bec)

62 Trade them for democrats 1 to 1 and we'll talk.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (r8FdI)

63 Did he also promise to put vending machines in the cafeteria if elected class president?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (9YKBM)

64 Send them to Disneyworld and bill the UN.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:28 PM (2LelM)

65
I am willing to take in two million capitalism starved Venezuelan
refugees if we can deport two million America hating Leftists
simultaneously.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (O9JR


I insist on a shittier exchange rate. 2 million venezuelan for 10 million leftists.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 12, 2019 02:28 PM (9Om/r)

66 As for a tax base, these losers of the world will not contribute, but rather will be a drain on the economy...

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:28 PM (90T4r)

67
Did Joe Bidet comment on Trump's new anti-indigent immigrant rule?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 12, 2019 02:28 PM (zBaqJ)

68 Trade them for democrats 1 to 1 and we'll talk.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 12, 2019 02:27 PM (r8FdI)

--------

If we can make this deal, I am willing to accept up to 150 million Latin Americans on a resident non-voter basis.

This deal would MAGA.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2019 02:28 PM (AzW6q)

69 I'm not sure a shock collar will work on Joe. Maybe a muzzle?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:28 PM (2LelM)

70 Hunting grounds for the deplorables and confiscation of their property for the poor masses from South America! We need to rid the country of whitey.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2019 02:28 PM (8ts9m)

71 57
2 million Eastern European chicks.

Probably best to have a pre-entrance interview staffed by volunteers... for safety...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (UFLLM)

72 I'd be willing to host a beautiful Venezuelan refugee.

Posted by: josephistan at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (Izzlo)

73 Rather than letting them keep shifting the goalposts, I'd like to hear somebody ask any of the Democratic candidates "exactly how many refugees/immigrants can the US take in per year?"

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (KUaJL)

74 60
Joe Biden - The stupid is staggering. Joe's gone full retard.


Posted by: Archer


To be fair, it was a short trip.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (T6t7i)

75 50

I favor Open Borders for all those under 14 1/2 years of age.

It's for the children.


Posted by: Hairy Reed at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (UFLLM)

Taken in context of recent revelations?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (t6MX/)

76 I thought of a way I could support this idea - we send 1/3 of them to Seattle, 1/3 to Portland, and 1/3 to San Francisco, and we give each of them a big Cardboard box to live in and tell them to set it up downtown anywhere they want in one of those 3 cities. And we tell them that the Local Government will provide for all of their food, and all of their health care needs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (Kpl3J)

77 As for a tax base, these losers of the world will not contribute, but rather will be a drain on the economy...
Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:28 PM (90T4r)
++++++++
But a boost their vote totals, which is all that matters.
The key tenet of Progressivism is "I don't care how shitty or little the hill is, so long as I am king of it."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (I2dne)

78 18 What the politicians don't say is that they need these immigrants to counter the baby boomers promissory note that is called Social Security.

Precisely why Paul Ryan ran for the hills.
Posted by: Golfman at August 12, 2019 02:23 PM (ZtOSx)

Yep, I've been talking about this for a while. I used to even post a clip of Lindsey Graham admitting that in a 2016 primary debate.

But then everyone would jump on me and say "no! they're not paying enough in taxes!" and I'd say "yeah, but our betters in DC are fucking idiots and think they will pay taxes to make up for the fact that our pyramid scheme of SS is looking pretty sketchy" and they'd yell at me more, so I just gave up.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (GBteo)

79 Joe Biden: The United States Can "Afford" to Absorb Another 2 Million Destitute Immigrants and Refugees

Let's parse his statement. Saying we can "afford" to absorb them implicitly admits that they're a net liability, a net drag on everyone else.

Turn it around: if they were a net asset to us, saying we could "afford" to admit them wouldn't make sense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (YqDXo)

80 Joe's estate could house 50 immigrants I'm sure, so see if he wants to start it.

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (BbGew)

81 send them to Epstein's Island. No ones there now.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob -if you can't be young again, be immature at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (O5bec)

82 " ... and who are justifiably weak, ... "


WTF does that mean ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (LpklP)

83 100,000 score young eastern european women between the ages of 18 and 25.

Posted by: Archer at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (gmo/4)

84 65
I am willing to take in two million capitalism starved Venezuelan
refugees if we can deport two million America hating Leftists
simultaneously.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (O9JR


I insist on a shittier exchange rate. 2 million venezuelan for 10 million leftists.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 12, 2019 02:28 PM (9Om/r)

Let's compromise. We can have the Venezuelans shoot the leftists to prove their loyalty, that way we solve the issue of who is going to take them.

Posted by: Someguy at August 12, 2019 02:30 PM (yOykd)

85 two million capitalism starved Venezuelan refugees

two million America hating Leftists simultaneously.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at August 12, 2019 02:26 PM (O9JR

You won't notice any difference in their voting patterns.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 02:30 PM (Sdc4d)

86 We could probably absorb 1 billion people. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 02:30 PM (FiUMj)

87 "Joe Biden: The United States Can "Afford" to Absorb Another 2 Million" So he wants ONLY 2 million now? He's gonna get 2 billion.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 02:30 PM (mk9aG)

88 Joe Biden - The stupid is staggering. Joe's gone full retard.


Posted by: Archer

To be fair, it was a short trip.
Posted by: pep


Actually, I commute. By train!!

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 02:30 PM (NeSSd)

89 He can put them up in his place. His estate in VA is really really big! Lots of room for a million or so!

Posted by: pj at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (qlTN9)

90 83 100,000 score young eastern european women between the ages of 18 and 25.
Posted by: Archer at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (gmo/4)


You want Milla Jovovich.... you get Una Brow.....

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (90T4r)

91 74 60
Joe Biden - The stupid is staggering. Joe's gone full retard.
Posted by: Archer
To be fair, it was a short trip.
Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (T6t7i)

I think its an example of what we were discussing earlier - the dem race is being dominated by the far left, and every candidate is pushing in that direction, just to keep up. Biden doesn't have the courage to stick to his previous positions, so he's being dragged over the falls just like the rest of them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (Kpl3J)

92 So first, the cholos and indios of Venezuela chase out the Euros and break their economy and now they want to join the American Euros cuz hungrey and desperate. How the fuck does this work?

The purpose of a nation was to hold people responsible for their own behavior. Mass migration is merely a crash and grab heist of other people's nation. Fuck them.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (2LelM)

93 Yeah, it's another losing position, but we'll make it up on volume.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (hjaPQ)

94 On another note, I think Joe has early stages of dementia.

That video where he got suddenly angry is a pretty common sign for dementia

And Joe is the right age to start getting dementia

People in dementia often say things that aren't relevant to the current conversation, because they've forgotten the conversation

And then he's always wanting to fight Trump, that anger, just like people with dementia

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (k81AA)

95 Confiscate people's firearms, overload the country with destitute immigrants, raise taxes, kill babies and waste trillions on a Green Boondoggle.

Sounds like a winning agenda to me.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (8ts9m)

96 What could possibly go wrong with President Biden in office?

He might want to be sure he has an insurance policy with a "dead-man" switch to ensure he makes it through full term, though, some of his potential VP candidates look rather ruthless for higher office!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (BiNEL)

97 Not only does he look pathetic...he is pathetic. Our very own Angela Merkel. How long before he starts shaking like a rattle can?

Posted by: Tentotwo at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (yhf6w)

98 Go drown yourself in a bucket, Joe.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (NWiLs)

99 Where are these people going? Where are they being housed? Is he not aware of the tens of thousands of people living on the streets in most major/small cities? What about our freeways/byways/highways/streets? Are they not crowded enough with traffic already? These people speak in such lofty terms as far as welcoming in the rest of the world with open arms, but never address the problems adding millions more to a system that is fully saturated. The idiotic arrogance of this man, and the others, is outrageous.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (9+jnX)

100 Biden doesn't have the courage to stick to his
previous positions, so he's being dragged over the falls just like the
rest of them.

Posted by: Tom Servo


Nice analogy.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (T6t7i)

101 The new immigration policy we need is one that focuses on mentality. Are you here to become an American? Are you willing to adopt our culture and customs? If so, come on in and make a place for yourself - nothing will be handed to you, and you will not need or miss it.

If you're here to make demands of us, to make a living on public largesse while demanding that we change our laws and lifestyles to suit you, kindly shuffle off to wherever you came from and get off our lawn.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (J+mig)

102 I almost feel sorry for Slow Joe.
Just like I feel sorry for roadkill.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (xJa6I)

103 2 million Eastern European chicks.

Probably best to have a pre-entrance interview staffed by volunteers... for safety...
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM


I volunteer. For the good of the country. I'm selfless like that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (ejd/p)

104 80 Joe's estate could house 50 immigrants I'm sure, so see if he wants to start it.
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (BbGew)


Yep. Another 50 or so at Barbra Streisand's manse in Malibu, another 50 or so at the Kennedy "compound" (should be a prison, but never mind), a few thousand in Marin County, and so on ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (YqDXo)

105 And PS, the law on TPS [Temporary Protected Status], under which the Haitians and others have been allowed to remain here, specifically excludes judicial review of policy decisions taken thereunder.


And get this - a "court" has nonetheless brazenly defied the law and presumed to insert itself into a policy change, delaying/blocking it.


And sit down for this - the WH and DOJ have meekly gone along - that is, refused to uphold their oaths, and uphold the law, and proceed with the policy change.


Tweaking the personnel in the judicial system is not a solution to constitutional derailment and judicial lawlessness. And if Congress won't defend its prerogatives, the law, and the constitution [and it won't - it's kind of amazing, in two decades Congress has largely ceased to exist as the central constitutional actor it is designed to be] - that leaves the executive.


And the executive shows no signs of fulfilling the dire forecasts of Scalia, Thomas, and even Roberts [spit] that the judiciary was courting repudiation.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (QDnY+)

106 91 74 60
Joe Biden - The stupid is staggering. Joe's gone full retard.
Posted by: Archer
To be fair, it was a short trip.
Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM (T6t7i)

I think its an example of what we were discussing earlier - the dem race is being dominated by the far left, and every candidate is pushing in that direction, just to keep up. Biden doesn't have the courage to stick to his previous positions, so he's being dragged over the falls just like the rest of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (Kpl3J)

===========

I don't think it's a matter of courage, but of the fact that his campaign is being run by Twitter obsessed idiots.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (iikV8)

107 "So, Open Borders then, yeah?"

Well, yeah! Our borders ARE open! Anybody who can cross gets to stay here.

Supposedly our side wants the borders not to be so open. Few of us seem to be noticing that NOBODY on our side is stopping it, not even the president.

Maybe if we had something like a WALL, it would help.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (mk9aG)

108 Biden is just angry. Period. I hope someone reports him under his new Red Flag Law.

It's the right thing to do.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (8ts9m)

109 I always like to ask Commies "How much is too much?" to which they evade and never have an answer. Like the national debt -- is $200 trillion too much? $200 quadrillion? $200 quintillion? ad. infinitum.

Same with illegal aliens aka undocumented Democrats -- 7 billion is not too many ... friggin' suicidal death cult.

Posted by: ShainS -- find me at 88 Shades of Spades HQ at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (lFRJr)

110 Hey, here's a thought: a Temporary spending cut.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (xJa6I)

111 All of immigration is a shell game designed to a) fool the rubes, and b) serve the interests of the Ruling Elites.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (oVJmc)

112 I can absorb anyone you want.

Posted by: The Borg Queen at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (k76MH)

113 94 On another note, I think Joe has early stages of dementia.

That video where he got suddenly angry is a pretty common sign for dementia

And Joe is the right age to start getting dementia

People in dementia often say things that aren't relevant to the current conversation, because they've forgotten the conversation

And then he's always wanting to fight Trump, that anger, just like people with dementia
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (k81AA)

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He's going to shit himself on stage one day soon, and the NYT will portray it as a winning move.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (iikV8)

114 Mark, sent you email.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (NWiLs)

115 95 Confiscate people's firearms, overload the country with destitute immigrants, raise taxes, kill babies and waste trillions on a Green Boondoggle.

Sounds like a winning agenda to me.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (8ts9m)

If America actually votes for that, America is finished forever.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (J+mig)

116 108 Biden is just angry. Period. I hope someone reports him under his new Red Flag Law.

It's the right thing to do.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (8ts9m)

I hear he has a shotgun and he's not shy about using it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 12, 2019 02:34 PM (xJa6I)

117 German cross-bow sex cult ...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7349343

... haven't read it yet ...

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 12, 2019 02:34 PM (vWMNq)

118 96 What could possibly go wrong with President Biden in office?

He might want to be sure he has an insurance policy with a "dead-man" switch to ensure he makes it through full term, though, some of his potential VP candidates look rather ruthless for higher office!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (BiNEL)

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Most presidents don't run much, especially in the modern administrative state.

Biden would run less than average. He'd probably work as much as he did as VP.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:34 PM (iikV8)

119 Next up: Temporary Suicide Watch

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 12, 2019 02:34 PM (xJa6I)

120 103
2 million Eastern European chicks.



Probably best to have a pre-entrance interview staffed by volunteers... for safety...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at August 12, 2019 02:29 PM



I volunteer. For the good of the country. I'm selfless like that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (ejd/p)

I will house 7.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 02:34 PM (t6MX/)

121 Hey, here's a thought: a Temporary spending cut.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (xJa6I)
+++++++++++
Thanks to the power of the Government Inversion Filter, a temporary spending cut becomes a permanent spending increase.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 12, 2019 02:34 PM (I2dne)

122 95
Confiscate people's firearms, overload the country with destitute
immigrants, raise taxes, kill babies and waste trillions on a Green
Boondoggle.


Sounds like a winning agenda to me.

It is if your agenda is literally the destruction of America...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at August 12, 2019 02:34 PM (UFLLM)

123 OT: The situation in Hong Kong is rapidly spiraling out of control.

Details at Breitbart.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (A9v7L)

124 People in dementia often say things that aren't relevant to the current conversation, because they've forgotten the conversation "

There's already a couple of video clips out there that show Joe talking about something, and you can see his train go off the tracks as he's talking, and suddenly words start coming out of his mouth that have nothing at all do with what he was saying in the previous sentence.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (Kpl3J)

125 Crossbow sex cult? The hell?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (NWiLs)

126 114 Mark, sent you email.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (NWiLs)

Thanks brother, I'll read it and reply back ASAP

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (xJa6I)

127 Ah well, my immigration position has not changed through all this. 10 year moratorium on ALL immigration. Illegals get punted back to country of origin, never to return. Massive increase in immigration enforcement. Yes, I am for American citizens. We need a break period for assimilation.

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (90T4r)

128 "We should change the priorities in terms of whether or not who is able to get in line."

How could anyone possibly argue against that?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (hjaPQ)

129 The new immigration policy we need is one that focuses on mentality. Are you here to become an American? Are you willing to adopt our culture and customs?

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 02:32 PM (J+mig)


Yep. One more thing: what do you bring to the party? We don't need menial labor; we've got plenty of that already.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (YqDXo)

130 109
I always like to ask Commies "How much is too much?" to which they evade
and never have an answer. Like the national debt -- is $200 trillion
too much? $200 quadrillion? $200 quintillion? ad. infinitum.


The most obvious example of this is "the rich need to pay their fair share". It's a twofer. They never define "rich", and they never put a number on "fair share". It just means "more".

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (T6t7i)

131 124 People in dementia often say things that aren't relevant to the current conversation, because they've forgotten the conversation "

There's already a couple of video clips out there that show Joe talking about something, and you can see his train go off the tracks as he's talking, and suddenly words start coming out of his mouth that have nothing at all do with what he was saying in the previous sentence.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (Kpl3J)

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The fact that he's still leading the pack says more about the rest of the pack than it does about Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (iikV8)

132 he can let them all stay at his place and Bernie's

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (SXMRB)

133 Canada has a lot more space, why not send them up there. They have magic dirt as well. There immigration laws are a bit tougher though.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (3y/Go)

134 124 People in dementia often say things that aren't relevant to the current conversation, because they've forgotten the conversation "

There's already a couple of video clips out there that show Joe talking about something, and you can see his train go off the tracks as he's talking, and suddenly words start coming out of his mouth that have nothing at all do with what he was saying in the previous sentence.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (Kpl3J)

Yeah, but he's kind of always been like that, no?

"gaffe prone" as it were.

Even back in '08, he'd say some really head scratching shit that seemingly came out of nowhere.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (GBteo)

135 Mark,

Saw Once Upon a Time this weekend at last.

Good stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (iikV8)

136 I almost feel sorry for Slow Joe.
Just like I feel sorry for roadkill.


Possums die for being slow. I'm slow and I'm subsidized by taxpayer money.And I'll live for years!

Plus, possums only bite when cornered. I attack for fun and profit.

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (NeSSd)

137 It's too cruel to allow them into a nation of continual White Supremacist Terror!

Posted by: andycanuck at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (Dh1wo)

138 On another note, I think Joe has early stages of dementia.

That video where he got suddenly angry is a pretty common sign for dementia

And Joe is the right age to start getting dementia

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (k81AA)

Ain't getting no better between now and NOV 2020

Posted by: Golfman at August 12, 2019 02:37 PM (ZtOSx)

139 Yep. One more thing: what do you bring to the party? We don't need menial labor; we've got plenty of that already.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (YqDXo)

We don't, but I'd at least object a lot less if they were becoming Americans instead of refusing to assimilate.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 02:37 PM (J+mig)

140 Hey, here's a thought: a Temporary spending cut.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 12, 2019 02:33 PM (xJa6I)


As long as it's real, not that "we asked for a 20% spending hike, but only got 10%, so we suffered a 10% spending cut" crap.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:37 PM (YqDXo)

141 138 On another note, I think Joe has early stages of dementia.

That video where he got suddenly angry is a pretty common sign for dementia

And Joe is the right age to start getting dementia

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (k81AA)

Ain't getting no better between now and NOV 2020
Posted by: Golfman at August 12, 2019 02:37 PM (ZtOSx)

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I still think he's not winning the nomination, but how great would the debates be between dementia addled Biden and fiery Trump?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:38 PM (iikV8)

142 Italian PM Salvini said to Richard Gere "if you want them take them on your yacht."

Came this close to saying "and keister a gerbil while you're at it."

Posted by: Regular joe at August 12, 2019 02:38 PM (6/uwW)

143 Did I mean their?

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at August 12, 2019 02:38 PM (3y/Go)

144 As long as it's real, not that "we asked for a 20% spending hike, but only got 10%, so we suffered a 10% spending cut" crap.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Your words frighten and confuse us.

Posted by: The Left at August 12, 2019 02:38 PM (T6t7i)

145 Tom Servo knows what I'm talking about--Joe Biden has started getting dementia

This is not Rick Perry "oops" this is he's completely forgotten that he even forgot what he was saying

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 02:38 PM (k81AA)

146 It just means "more".
Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (T6t7i)

More for "you"! Is the subtext!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 02:38 PM (BiNEL)

147 I will house 7.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 02:34 PM


Fair enough. I only require one. I will be conducting interviews of the single Orthodox ones.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 12, 2019 02:38 PM (ejd/p)

148 We don't, but I'd at least object a lot less if they were becoming Americans instead of refusing to assimilate.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 02:37 PM (J+mig)


Fair enough. Same here.

If you're going to get up on your hind legs and whine about how awful things are here, then let us spare you that ordeal and let you stay where things are good.

Yeah, I'm thinking of our Somali friends.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (YqDXo)

149 http://bit.ly/2KF83jb
*******
AG Barr Warns Jeffrey Epstein's Co-Conspirators 'Should Not Rest Easy'

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (BqBId)

150 There's no support for Biden's idiotic "idea" - that is it's a view shared by a vastly outnumbered minority of voters. As are amnesty, lawlessness, "open borders" in general. In fact something like the RAISE Act - returning immigration policy to a rational basis, as it mostly had for most of our history - is/would be overwhelmingly popular.


If only there were an administration seriously interested in finally implementing a vastly popular and desirable change, with a house of Congress, and another one that could be beaten with that cudgel relelentlessly to help flip it.




Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (QDnY+)

151 125 Crossbow sex cult? The hell?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (NWiLs)

Sounds pretty uncomfortable, doesn't it?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (RD7QR)

152 We take in 2 million more and then we shut it down completely? I mean, guns on the border walls shut down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison


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This is acceptable...


Posted by: lin-duh

Agreed, provided there is:1) A
complete end to chain migration. Merit only from now on.2) Construction
of the complete border wall.3) Rigorous enforcement of all labor laws,
with violators expelled from the country.4) A one for one swap with any
previously admitted immigrant now on any kind of public assistance. Deal?Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019

*
*
. . .Let's do all the things Pep suggests, but skip the 2M+ more warm bodies, ok? And ship out all the ones who are already here illegally.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (ClOmq)

153 OT: The situation in Hong Kong is rapidly spiraling out of control.

Details at Breitbart.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (A9v7L)

There are videos of Chinese truck convoys moving into Hong Kong on Twitter and at Gateway Pundit.

We may be looking at Tiananmen Two; The Kalashnikov Bugaloo.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (Sdc4d)

154 145 Tom Servo knows what I'm talking about--Joe Biden has started getting dementia

This is not Rick Perry "oops" this is he's completely forgotten that he even forgot what he was saying
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 02:38 PM (k81AA)

Yep.... not misplaced the car..... forgot what the car is for.......

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (90T4r)

155

Someone's knockin' at the door
Somebody's ringin' the bell
Someone's knockin' at the door
Somebody's ringin' the bell
Do me a favor
Slam the door and tell 'em we're closed

Posted by: Moose out front at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (aKsyK)

156 The most obvious example of this is "the rich need to pay their fair share". It's a twofer. They never define "rich", and they never put a number on "fair share". It just means "more".
Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (T6t7i)

So I listened to bernie sanders on Joe Rogan's podcast the other day.

Joe really tried to nail down some details on Bernie's plan of "taxing wallstreet speculation" to pay for medicare for all and for free college and everything else, and uh -- yeah Bernie didn't really have an answer. He just said "most trading is done by algorithms, and if we tax those speculative trades at half a per cent, we'll raise billions of dollars a year. It will also stop a lot of the wild speculation." (which, er, means you won't get your billions of dollars a year, then, no?)

I was pretty impressed with Joe, to be honest. Because I've been wondering the same thing. Like, explain to me exactly what you're talking about, without resorting to bullet points. I want to hear details.

It seems like no one has really thought that far ahead.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (GBteo)

157 145 Tom Servo knows what I'm talking about--Joe Biden has started getting dementia

This is not Rick Perry "oops" this is he's completely forgotten that he even forgot what he was saying
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 02:38 PM (k81AA)

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I've thought that for a few weeks.

My guess is that there must have been insane establishment pressure to get him in the race because if his inner circle doesn't see this degradation then they are blind.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (iikV8)

158 Yeah, but he's kind of always been like that, no?

"gaffe prone" as it were.

Even back in '08, he'd say some really head scratching shit that seemingly came out of nowhere.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (GBteo)

kinda telling that one of the best arguments for Joe is "You can't say he's turning into an imbecile! He's always been an imbecile!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:40 PM (Kpl3J)

159
The fact that he's still leading the pack says more about the rest of the pack than it does about Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM (iikV


When Joe Biden is your party's candidate for reason and moderation, you are officially screwed.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Official Distributor for the Old Appalachian Wrath Shop at August 12, 2019 02:40 PM (hLRSq)

160 Translation: 2 million means they already intend to bring in 20.

Posted by: ... at August 12, 2019 02:40 PM (lHIDz)

161 The fact that he's still leading the pack says more about the rest of the pack Democrat voters than it does about Biden.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM


FIFY.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 12, 2019 02:40 PM (ejd/p)

162 153 OT: The situation in Hong Kong is rapidly spiraling out of control.

Details at Breitbart.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (A9v7L)

There are videos of Chinese truck convoys moving into Hong Kong on Twitter and at Gateway Pundit.

We may be looking at Tiananmen Two; The Kalashnikov Bugaloo.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (Sdc4d)

Whoopsie. The commies aren't exactly morally bothered by a massacre or two.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (RD7QR)

163 There is no such thing as a moderate Democrat.

Looking at the 'moderate' Joe Biden, he was the one who opened the door to gay marriage under Obama, giving O cover when he was the first to say that it was ok. This was after it was the 'moderate' position to say out of that fight because it was out of O's 'pay grade'.

Joe has tacked to the prevailing political winds his entire career. The way he's racing to repudiate his past positions to stay relevant with today's primary voter tells you all you'd need to know if AOC and a Majority Leader Schumer was somehow able to put the Green Nude Eel on President Biden's desk to sign.

In fact, one question that any of these 'moderators' should ask is this: is there any liberal position that you would veto if it ever got to your desk? No MSM person would ever ask that question because they don't want the American public to hear their answer - NO.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (iuFgi)

164 Yep.... not misplaced the car..... forgot what the car is for.......
Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (90T4r)

So...

that's why he takes the train!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (BiNEL)

165 "Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 12, 2019 02:34 PM (xJa6I)"

Excuse to talk about shotguns.

A friend showed me his very expensive Perrazzi last night. It was a work of art.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (8ts9m)

166
I saw Keister a Gerbil open for Lance Hardthrust in the Bay Stadium in '73.

Won the tickets in a radio give away, was... not... what we were expecting...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (UFLLM)

167 So basically, Genius Joe's platform on immigration is that we should be the welfare office to the world.
Good luck selling that to a nation full working-class people who can't manage to find $400 for an emergency, Gropey.
Working-class people, it should be added, who your policies (with an eager assist from the US Chamber of Commerce) have caused to suffer frozen wages, deteriorating services, and a general (and rather steep, in places) decline in their quality of life since the early 1990's.

Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (77WPm)

168 Crossbow sex cult? The hell?


Pff. Longbow sex cult is way hotter.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (oVJmc)

169 161 The fact that he's still leading the pack says more about the rest of the pack Democrat voters than it does about Biden.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland at August 12, 2019 02:36 PM

FIFY.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 12, 2019 02:40 PM (ejd/p)

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Well, both really.

If you were a Democrat, who would be your choice?

I could easily imagine the line of thinking that leads people whose families have been Democrats since the New Deal helped their farm somehow saying, "Biden's a silly old goat, but at least he's not Elizabeth Warren."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:42 PM (iikV8)

170 Playing with a half deck Joe he said 2 million but thinks that's a month

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 02:42 PM (BbGew)

171 There are videos of Chinese truck convoys moving into Hong Kong on Twitter and at Gateway Pundit.

We may be looking at Tiananmen Two; The Kalashnikov Bugaloo.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (Sdc4d)

Frankly, I'm a little worried about the Chinese. The Chinese nationals I know / knew (mostly foreign exchange students) seem to have a very... inflated view of China.

Like, they actually believe that the US would never go to war with China, and if we did, we'd lose miserably. They also actually believe that we need China more than China needs us. Even when I say, "the average american consumer doesn't care if their socks are made in China or Vietnam, and I can't imagine that there would be much of a price difference there."

Several of them said "the US would never go to war to defend Japan." and it's like "errr... yeah, I think we would."

idk, just some random thoughts there ha.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:42 PM (GBteo)

172
As long as it's real, not that "we asked for a 20% spending hike, but only got 10%, so we suffered a 10% spending cut" crap.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


As Sam Donaldson once said, "if it doesn't meet the need then it's a cut."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 02:42 PM (aKsyK)

173 Canada has a lot more space, why not send them up there. They have magic
dirt as well. There immigration laws are a bit tougher though.

Not for phoney refugees and the illegals that are still flooding in after Justin's anti-Trump tweet inviting them all here. See the sock link.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 12, 2019 02:42 PM (Dh1wo)

174 The fact that he's still leading the pack says more about the rest of the pack than it does about Biden.
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Biden's numbers just represent name recognition. The rest of the mob is basically unknown to the voter. They are not paying attention at the moment. BTW - Biden is a dead man walking and no one wants to tell him.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:42 PM (2LelM)

175 If we deported every asshole that had said they were going to leave the country if Reagan/Bush/Trump became President, we could 1) make room for new immigration and 2) improve the quality of American citizenry.

"Go back to where you didn't come from!"

Posted by: Roy at August 12, 2019 02:43 PM (DDeWs)

176
"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids." --- Joe Biden

--- This is something a Real White Supremacist would say.

A real white supremacist knows deep in his heart, automatically that blacks and other minorities are always poor, because they gosh darn it!, just aren't as good as whites. "It is the way God intended." They will pat them on the head, and humor them like they do with children.

Real White Supremacists can be the most patronizing people to deal with. The KKK didn't want to get rid of blacks, they just didn't want the blacks to "get uppity" or start thinking they were equal to white folks. Got to keep them in their place where they belong.

"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids," is something a real white supremacist would say.

Posted by: rd at August 12, 2019 02:43 PM (EK+Pw)

177 Translation: 2 million means they already intend to bring in 20.
Posted by: ... at August 12, 2019 02:40 PM (lHIDz)

Comrade, you've mastered progressive maths!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 02:43 PM (BiNEL)

178 3) Rigorous enforcement of all labor laws, with violators expelled from the country.

4) A one for one swap with any previously admitted immigrant now on any kind of public assistance. Deal?Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019


This.

I'd have two more suggestions:

1) we also ring up any employers caught with illegals, and

2) we dock the foreign aid of any country for the support of their erstwhile citizens go onto public assistance here. Make their home countries have some skin in the game.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:43 PM (YqDXo)

179 Biden only acknowledges three genders. He's basically a rightwinger.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2019 02:43 PM (AzW6q)

180 What would Trump be willing to do to China in trade negotiations if they start slaughtering their own people?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (oVJmc)

181 168 Crossbow sex cult? The hell?


Pff. Longbow sex cult is way hotter.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (oVJmc)

*thwang*
OW!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (NWiLs)

182 kinda telling that one of the best arguments for Joe is "You can't say he's turning into an imbecile! He's always been an imbecile!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:40 PM (Kpl3J)

seriously.

The media says "oh, thats just Joe!" and it's like "yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. Joe's a fucking idiot with serious ADD issues who can't even complete a thought without wandering off on to some unrelated tangent."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (GBteo)

183 Last week Mark Levin played a clip from some recent Biden speech. Biden said "every now and then the Tree of Liberty needs to be watered with the blood of patriots."

Freudian slip much, Joe?

Posted by: fly gal at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (8TdcF)

184 In fact, one question that any of these 'moderators'
should ask is this: is there any liberal position that you would veto
if it ever got to your desk? No MSM person would ever ask that question
because they don't want the American public to hear their answer - NO.

Posted by: Darrell Harris


My first question to any Dem is "name three non-defense programs that you would cut". Two? One?
They'll say no more tax giveaways to corporations, but never define what that means.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (T6t7i)

185 I think its an example of what we were discussing earlier - the dem race is being dominated by the far left, and every candidate is pushing in that direction, just to keep up. Biden doesn't have the courage to stick to his previous positions, so he's being dragged over the falls just like the rest of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I'm positive the plan is to shift back to center for the general. But can the candidate who ultimatly emerges from the leftist Thunderdome do that? All of this insanity is public record.

The media, of course, will be more than happy to memory hole ALL of this when the normies out there begin to pay attention about a year from now. Can they succeed? I think they'll do their best to try.

Posted by: Biergood at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (uGKH7)

186 174 The fact that he's still leading the pack says more about the rest of the pack than it does about Biden.
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Biden's numbers just represent name recognition. The rest of the mob is basically unknown to the voter. They are not paying attention at the moment. BTW - Biden is a dead man walking and no one wants to tell him.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:42 PM (2LelM)

==========

It was his flip on the Hyde Amendment that convinced me he was toast.

Not that the Hyde Amendment was magical or that anyone was going to remember the flip, but his flip was so awfully handled, unnecessary for the overall race, and protracted that I couldn't see him winning anymore. He was going to end up flipping on every "moderate" position he ever held to cater to the far left, providing a host of reasons to vote against him from a moderate perspective.

And yeah, people are largely not paying attention yet. Iowa is still just under 6 months away.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:45 PM (iikV8)

187 [i[]Well, both really.

If you were a Democrat, who would be your choice?

I could easily imagine the line of thinking that leads people whose families have been Democrats since the New Deal helped their farm somehow saying, "Biden's a silly old goat, but at least he's not Elizabeth Warren."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland at August 12, 2019 02:42 PM

True. Not a lot of choice there, I must admit.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 12, 2019 02:45 PM (ejd/p)

188 183
Last week Mark Levin played a clip from some recent Biden speech. Biden
said "every now and then the Tree of Liberty needs to be watered with
the blood of patriots."



Freudian slip much, Joe?

Posted by: fly gal at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (8TdcF)

He missed the part about tyrants?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 02:45 PM (t6MX/)

189 All Democrats run to the far left during the Primaries and then move back to the hard left if they get elected. That is except Obama. He knew the wishy washy RNCe would do nothing so he was letting 1M of these muzzies a year and that was above the illegals who were pouring across the border like shit from a diarrhea laden goose.

Posted by: Vic at August 12, 2019 02:45 PM (mpXpK)

190 Several of them said "the US would never go to war to defend Japan." and it's like "errr... yeah, I think we would."

idk, just some random thoughts there ha.
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I guess you didn't point out that we can sink their entire navy within 72 hours? If they want to invade Japan they are gonna need a bridge. When you add the Japanese navy I give them 48 hours afloat.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:45 PM (2LelM)

191 My father had dementia for years before he died. He would repeat things, forget things that happened moments before, or hours before, etc. When he forgot the word for something, or misplaced keys and couldn't find them he would get very angry.

Paste eating Joe has dementia. No doubts.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 12, 2019 02:45 PM (3H9h1)

192
This was inevitable from the moment the UK handed over HK to China. I'm a bit mystified as to why any anti-China people are even still there. I'd have packed my bags in '97 if I were in their shoes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2019 02:46 PM (AzW6q)

193 It's the Democrat's fault for pressuring Biden into this position, when he clearly is not mentally and physically up to it. The risk the Dem's are taking, that they don't understand, is that every time Joe is in pressure in public, there is an increasing danger of a "Captain Queeg" moment, where a person with a good, respectable image suddenly starts spouting mind boggling gobbledygook, so bad that everyone watching just puts both hands on their face and says "Oh. My. God."

if they keep Biden on that stage, it's going to happen to him. He won't be able to help it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:46 PM (Kpl3J)

194 My first question to any Dem is "name three non-defense programs that you would cut". Two? One?
They'll say no more tax giveaways to corporations, but never define what that means.
Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (T6t7i)

Make them say that about farm subsidies - before Iowa caucuses.

Posted by: Roy at August 12, 2019 02:46 PM (DDeWs)

195 185 I'm positive the plan is to shift back to center for the general. But can the candidate who ultimatly emerges from the leftist Thunderdome do that? All of this insanity is public record.

The media, of course, will be more than happy to memory hole ALL of this when the normies out there begin to pay attention about a year from now. Can they succeed? I think they'll do their best to try.
Posted by: Biergood at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (uGKH7)

==========

The issue is that if the candidates aren't listening to anything other than leftist Twitter now, are they suddenly going to change tactics in the general election, especially if listening to Leftist Twitter got them the nomination to begin with?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:46 PM (iikV8)

196 If they want to invade Japan they are gonna need a bridge.

China has lots of witches...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at August 12, 2019 02:46 PM (UFLLM)

197 it would be cheaper to buy/acquire/take some Venezuelan real estate and build a new 2 million person city ... donate soybeans and corn to them for a few years, get them back on their feet.

We have $220T in unfunded liabilities, but sure, we can AFFORD to run the debt to infinity, till the fiat currency collapses and we get ??? whatever the bankers tell us we get? Who collects in the foreclosure?

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 02:46 PM (Cus5s)

198 94 On another note, I think Joe has early stages of dementia.

___

I'm reading a biography or Reagan and the left was convinced he had demential in 1983 and 1984. And they had all sorts of "proof" too, all scientific like!!

It's an easy cheap shot to call the old guy you don't like senile.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (FiUMj)

199 97
Not only does he look pathetic...he is pathetic. Our very own Angela
Merkel. How long before he starts shaking like a rattle can?

Posted by: Tentotwo at August 12, 2019 02:31 PM (yhf6w)

When I see pictures of Biden now, I think of the old gunsmith in "Shooter", but without any discernible knowledge of any matter.

"PAPERPATCH!"

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (ymnmz)

200 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE BIDEN NEVER WANT TO ABSORB THESE PEOPLE INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEIR MANSIONS, THEIR SCHOOLS.

"WE CAN" MEAN YOU CAN, SERFS.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (bDqIh)

201 Freudian slip much, Joe?
Posted by: fly gal at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM


Kinsleyan gaffe.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (ejd/p)

202 My first question to any Dem is "name three non-defense programs that you would cut". Two? One?
They'll say no more tax giveaways to corporations, but never define what that means.
Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:44 PM (T6t7i)

Yeah, I'd really like to hear a Dem explain to me how they would change the tax code and what the consequences of that would be.

I hate the tax code as much as the next guy, but there is a very compelling logic to it.

It's inherently difficult to tax "profit" of a company that uses GAAP accounting (or any other accounting method I can think of) because profit is such a ... nebulous ... term.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (GBteo)

203 if they keep Biden on that stage, it's going to happen to him. He won't be able to help it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:46 PM (Kpl3J)

I'm pretty sure that's the DNC's plan. They already have someone waiting in the wings to "save the day" once Choo Choo Joe loses it on live TV.

Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (77WPm)

204 Funny, I was just thinking this AM we need to deport 2M+/year to have any hope of keeping the country from socialist caudilloism. So Joe and I agree on the numbers but not the direction.

Posted by: DaveA at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (FhXTo)

205 And there's more happening in this area - new rule issued to - horrors! - actually enforce the key and historically normal element of current law requiring self-sufficiency from immigrants. That is, no welfare for [most] immigrants, to generalize.


Oh - I won't bet against those predicting a "court" will block this rule [a routine, outlandish, unbelievable usurpation by the "court"], and the administration will comply.


Part of me wants to see a court block a military command from prez/secdef/CINC, just as a reductio ad absurdum of the lawlessness of the judiciary and the collapse of constitutional responsibility by Congress and the executive.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (QDnY+)

206 163 There is no such thing as a moderate Democrat.

Not an elected one anyway. There's not even any Moderate Democrat REPUBLICANS.

Among gen pop, if they can admit the abortion is murder a la a Camille Paglia (whether for or against), they at least have my attention.

Posted by: ... at August 12, 2019 02:48 PM (lHIDz)

207 Well SOMETHING'S going on because the market is nose-diving.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 12, 2019 02:48 PM (RD7QR)

208 Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (77WPm)

Yes, ask rural elderly working class Americans about how well the Obamacare/Medicare they paid into for decades is working for them. A few more free riders won't hurt a bit!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 02:48 PM (BiNEL)

209 So needy, weak, and depressed gets one in?

Great.
Posted by: Anon a mouse
..........

You left out - disease ridden and in desperate need of medical care..

I'll just give up my doctor visits for the next ten years..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 12, 2019 02:48 PM (so+oy)

210 181 168 Crossbow sex cult? The hell?
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Checked out the chicks. No great loss. Maybe they should have lightened up on the death medal and mead.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:48 PM (2LelM)

211 Frankly, I'm a little worried about the Chinese. The Chinese nationals I know / knew (mostly foreign exchange students) seem to have a very... inflated view of China.

I got a similar take from an Indian (dot) re India, which per this guy is the fount of all knowledge, wisdom, and progress on earth.

In my dotage I've learned to holster the mouth from time to time (I know people here will find that hard to believe; frankly, so do I, now that I've typed it), and so did not bring up, e.g., the corpses floating the Ganges, or why Indians immigrate here, whereas Americans do not immigrate to India.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:48 PM (YqDXo)

212 Make them say that about farm subsidies - before Iowa caucuses.

Posted by: Roy


Yep. Excellent.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (T6t7i)

213 Medal = metal.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (2LelM)

214 We have $220T in unfunded liabilities, but sure, we can AFFORD to run the debt to infinity, till the fiat currency collapses and we get ??? whatever the bankers tell us we get? Who collects in the foreclosure?
Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 02:46 PM (Cus5s)

__

Thing is whether it's 220T or infinity doesn't really matter. 220T might as well be infinity, that number is so big that it is kinda meaningless. It would be like if someone told me I owned them $100M or $500M. Both numbers are beyond the level of anything I could do about it so make it 500 gazillion, it all means the same.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (FiUMj)

215
I'm reading a biography or Reagan and the left
was convinced he had demential in 1983 and 1984. And they had all sorts
of "proof" too, all scientific like!!



It's an easy cheap shot to call the old guy you don't like senile.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (FiUMj)


Well he has groped more girls than a 95 year old GHWB in a nursing home full of nursing graduates.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (ymnmz)

216 I'm pretty sure that's the DNC's plan. They already have someone waiting in the wings to "save the day" once Choo Choo Joe loses it on live TV.
Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (77WPm)

Well it better be good, because I'm not buying that everyone is enthralled with Michelle Obama.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (NFEMn)

217 212 Make them say that about farm subsidies - before Iowa caucuses.

Posted by: Roy

Yep. Excellent.
Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (T6t7i)

==========

Retort:

Cruz won Iowa right after saying he wanted to end all ethanol subsidies.

Iowa is weird, it seems.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (iikV8)

218 You left out - disease ridden and in desperate need of medical care..

Diversity extends to bacteriology as well!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (YqDXo)

219 Biden made a yuge mistake putting a number on it. Trump will make a meal of that that makes filet mignon look like dog poo.

Posted by: ... at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (lHIDz)

220 I guess you didn't point out that we can sink their entire navy within 72 hours? If they want to invade Japan they are gonna need a bridge. When you add the Japanese navy I give them 48 hours afloat.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:45 PM (2LelM)

Well, I was never trying to be confrontational. But any time I pointed anything out, they had a come back.

Again, smalll sample size (I'm talking 3 or 4 people who I've had these convos with), but I think they really buy the Chinese government propaganda.

I just hope the Chinese government doesn't buy that shit.

because underestimating a potential adversary is how world wars start.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (GBteo)

221 Canada has a lot more space, why not send them up there. They have magic
dirt as well. .
Posted by: andycanuck


Australia has even more space. And their climate is more to the illegals liking.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (xkaSw)

222 215
It's an easy cheap shot to call the old guy you don't like senile.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (FiUMj)


Well he has groped more girls than a 95 year old GHWB in a nursing home full of nursing graduates.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (ymnmz)

========

Notice we're not saying Bernie or Warren have dementia, just the old candidate who's exhibiting signs of dementia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (iikV8)

223 A right proper gloat does not deserve the willowing.

Did you go to Cabelas today?

Did the cutest little Ruger LCR .38 spl follow you home?

No?

Then I'm having a better day than you.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (fuK7c)

224 Four million people are fleeing Venezuela. What do we do?


easy. tell them they fucked up by voting democrat and to go home to the shithole that voting democrat created.

Posted by: x at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (nFwvY)

225 The issue is that if the candidates aren't listening to anything other than leftist Twitter now, are they suddenly going to change tactics in the general election, especially if listening to Leftist Twitter got them the nomination to begin with?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Interesting question. I think it depends on who wins. Some of them are committed and don't give a damn about moving center. Biden would try to. That's what he knows.

Posted by: Biergood at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (uGKH7)

226 We can "afford" it? Really? Based on what calculations? Because we've got $22 trillion in public debt, hundreds of trillions more in unfunded liabilities, and a health care system that millions of U.S. citizens already can't afford.

We're running yearly trillion dollar-plus budget deficits, more than 60% of immigrants (legal and illegal) are already on at least one form of taxpayer-funded welfare, and we've got hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens streaming across our border every damn month (and into a system that can't detain or even keep track of them because it is overwhelmed) and who knows how many millions more overstaying visas -- but yeah, let's invite in a few million more destitute foreigners and give them "free" health insurance and all kinds of other shit! Makes perfect sense.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM (k4dH2)

227
Notice we're not saying Bernie or Warren have dementia



We're not?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM (oVJmc)

228 Well it better be good, because I'm not buying that everyone is enthralled with Michelle Obama.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 02:49 PM (NFEMn)

Worf is going nowhere. Same for Felonious. My guess? Bernie.

Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM (77WPm)

229 Why an "Asian and Latino" coalition?

Posted by: Hikaru at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM (UnA8+)

230 TELL THE TRUTH, JOE: YOUR AMERICA CAN HANDLE 2 MILLION MORE DEMOCRAT VOTERS. MIGHT EVEN NEED THEM.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM (bDqIh)

231 225 The issue is that if the candidates aren't listening to anything other than leftist Twitter now, are they suddenly going to change tactics in the general election, especially if listening to Leftist Twitter got them the nomination to begin with?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Interesting question. I think it depends on who wins. Some of them are committed and don't give a damn about moving center. Biden would try to. That's what he knows.
Posted by: Biergood at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (uGKH7)

=========

Biden might try, but he's obviously not driving his campaign right now. He's got campaign professionals doing that.

Warren? She'll come out with calls to kill whitey with their own guns as soon as she wins the nomination.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM (iikV8)

232 Joe is in pressure in public, there is an increasing danger of a "Captain Queeg" moment

I got $5.00 sez he scratches his butt and sniffs his fingers.

... and whut about that russian atomic rocket oops??

Posted by: adobe juan scratch n sniff kenobbe at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM (HEgEb)

233 Thanks again, Delaware, for inflicting this creepy retard on the nation.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 12, 2019 02:52 PM (y7DUB)

234 Well SOMETHING'S going on because the market is nose-diving.
Don't worry. There will be an Epstein Bounce tomorrow.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 12, 2019 02:52 PM (Dh1wo)

235 229 Why an "Asian and Latino" coalition?


Ask their president, Manuel Chang.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:52 PM (oVJmc)

236 Imagine if Hong Kong actually beats the inevitable Chinese push back? For further fun, imagine them recognizing Taiwan as the legitimate gov't next.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 02:52 PM (J+mig)

237 >Four million people are fleeing Venezuela. What do we do?


Arm them. Tell them to fix what they broke.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 02:52 PM (t6MX/)

238 191
My father had dementia for years before he died. He would repeat
things, forget things that happened moments before, or hours before,
etc. When he forgot the word for something, or misplaced keys and
couldn't find them he would get very angry.



Paste eating Joe has dementia. No doubts.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 12, 2019 02:45 PM (3H9h1)

+++
A loving family would intervene and walk him away from the strain and exertion of running a presidential campaign - for well over another year.He should be standing in his driveway, re-waxing his Trans Am to fill his days, with several nap times in-between.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 12, 2019 02:52 PM (9+jnX)

239 227
Notice we're not saying Bernie or Warren have dementia


We're not?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM (oVJmc)

Just being socialist assholes is sufficient indictment of those two.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 12, 2019 02:52 PM (RD7QR)

240 "173 Canada has a lot more space, why not send them up there. They have magic
dirt as well. "

Yeah, why doesn't Canada take on more of these people? It's a rich, very white country in desperate need of diversification. The U.S. is such a deplorable hot-bed of irredeemable racist hicks with guns and no free healthcare. This should be the very last country on the planet the left should want people to come to.

Posted by: I Have Questions at August 12, 2019 02:52 PM (BvNzB)

241 I got a similar take from an Indian (dot) re India, which per this guy is the fount of all knowledge, wisdom, and progress on earth.

In my dotage I've learned to holster the mouth from time to time (I know people here will find that hard to believe; frankly, so do I, now that I've typed it), and so did not bring up, e.g., the corpses floating the Ganges, or why Indians immigrate here, whereas Americans do not immigrate to India.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:48 PM (YqDXo)

Interesting. Well, as I've mentioned before on the 'hq, one of my best friends is an Indian national. And believe me, he absolutely does not feel that way about india.

I mean, there's aspects he likes, but mostly he's just embarrassed about how much of a shit hole his country is. To the point where I feel like I'm the one trying to defend India. Like "well, I mean, eating with your hands isn't the grossest thing in the world, Americans eat pizza and hamburgers with our hands... But, yeah, I think I generally see the utility of utensils over fingers." haha

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (GBteo)

242 ... and whut about that russian atomic rocket oops??

It caused the panic in Hong Kong.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (UFLLM)

243
162 153 OT: The situation in Hong Kong is rapidly spiraling out of control.

Details at Breitbart.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 12, 2019 02:35 PM (A9v7L)

There are videos of Chinese truck convoys moving into Hong Kong on Twitter and at Gateway Pundit.

We may be looking at Tiananmen Two; The Kalashnikov Bugaloo.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (Sdc4d)

Whoopsie. The commies aren't exactly morally bothered by a massacre or two.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 12, 2019 02:41 PM (RD7QR)

------

Why do I think the China Trade Problem is about to get solved? And not in their favor.

Dead Hong Kong students and 10% tariffs are the least of President Xi's problems.

And it will be bipartisan, the Democrats cannot do anything else and look sane.

Posted by: rd at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (EK+Pw)

244 I'd have packed my bags in '97 if I were in their shoes.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2019 02:46 PM (AzW6q)

A lot of them did, see Vancouver BC immigration and Chinese tourist pregnancy tours to the US!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (BiNEL)

245 Is it just me or does this Biden character act like a criminal who is suffering from end stage syphilis?

He is either sick of one dimwitted moron!

Posted by: Parker Longbaugh at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (GZ+At)

246 223 A right proper gloat does not deserve the willowing.

Did you go to Cabelas today?

Did the cutest little Ruger LCR .38 spl follow you home?

No?

Then I'm having a better day than you.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (fuK7c)

Grrr, Bander, grrr.

I hope you have fun with that Ruger trollop.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (xJa6I)

247
I just hope the Chinese government doesn't buy that shit.

because underestimating a potential adversary is how world wars start.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (GBteo)

China would need a network of allies willing to fight the US for it to be a world war. It does not have one presently.

Posted by: Someguy at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (yOykd)

248
Interesting question. I think it depends on who wins. Some of them are committed and don't give a damn about moving center. Biden would try to. That's what he knows.
Posted by: Biergood at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (uGKH7)

So Biden has the mental capacity to switch back to moderate, Lunch Bucket "Scranton Joe" mode after spouting Leftist shit for over a year?
Doubtful.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (NFEMn)

249 I hope Jackie Chan is remembering the nasty shit he said about Americans while he watches the tanks roll in.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (oVJmc)

250 I'm pretty sure that's the DNC's plan. They already have someone waiting in the wings to "save the day" once Choo Choo Joe loses it on live TV.
Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (77WPm)


I wouldn't count out the Sage of Chappaqua, if Biden blows up on the launch pad. Until then, I'd guess the nomination is his to lose. He's their only shot at getting white blue collar workers on side.

In the alternative, by the time of the Dem convention all of the idiots may have bloodied each other so much that a brokered convention might result. The only potential nominee who hadn't been involved in the food fight would be Hillarhoid, whom you KNOW is dying for another chance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (YqDXo)

251 It's no bad enough they suspended Tucker for 2 weeks... His replacement is.... Donna Brazille

Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (O2RFr)

252 And it will be bipartisan, the Democrats cannot do anything else and look sane.



Posted by: rd at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (EK+Pw)

Think I may have found the flaw in your reasoning, there.

Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (77WPm)

253 I'm reading a biography or Reagan and the left was convinced he had demential in 1983 and 1984. And they had all sorts of "proof" too, all scientific like!!

It's an easy cheap shot to call the old guy you don't like senile.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (FiUMj)

In 1984, Ronald Reagan was 5 years younger than Joe Biden is today.

and I've visited "assisted living facilities" (what we used to call nursing homes) plenty of times, I recognize dementia and Alzheimer's well. From what I've seen, I would make a slight distinction between them, but I'm not sure that's clinically accurate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (Kpl3J)

254 Question for democratic candidates: If 2 million russian citizens were attempting to cross into the US, should we let them? Why or why not?

Certainly if Russia is as bad as you guys say it is, it's our moral duty to accept people fleeing those horrible conditions.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (KUaJL)

255 He should be standing in his driveway, re-waxing his Trans Am to fill his days, with several nap times in-between.


Posted by: washrivergal


And by "waxing his Trans Am", you mean......

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (T6t7i)

256 Mr Peebles, there's been talk of sanctions and other measures if China does what they tend to do, in Hong Kong. Or that is, more of it, with more blood. Lots of Mandarin speakers being noted among "law enforcement" in HK these days.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (QDnY+)

257 I got yer deficit hangin,' man.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (hjaPQ)

258 Will this be their clarion call even AFTER Trump is reelected? For 4 more years until the next election?

Racism and Open Borders?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (vEIlU)

259 >>The issue is that if the candidates aren't listening to anything other than leftist Twitter now, are they suddenly going to change tactics in the general election, especially if listening to Leftist Twitter got them the nomination to begin with?


My guess is they'll let the MSM do the heavy lifting of trying to convince the American public that they didn't really mean all that stuff, and show us where they said that (wink, wink, thanks Google for your updated algorithm hiding those comments). Also: shut up with your conspiracy theories, white supremist!!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (bDqIh)

260 I can just her the Neocons if Honk Kong falls, "Who Lost Hong Kong? Trump!"

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 02:55 PM (NFEMn)

261 It's no bad enough they suspended Tucker for 2 weeks...
Huh? For what?

Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 02:55 PM (77WPm)

262 So Biden has the mental capacity to switch back to moderate, Lunch Bucket "Scranton Joe" mode after spouting Leftist shit for over a year?
Doubtful.
Posted by: JoeF

I think he would and the media would do backflips to help him.

Posted by: Biergood at August 12, 2019 02:55 PM (uGKH7)

263 251 It's no bad enough they suspended Tucker for 2 weeks... His replacement is.... Donna Brazille
Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (O2RFr)

only Media Matters, which hates Tucker, is claiming it's a "suspension". Every one else is saying it's an August vacation, during a slow time while Congress is on recess.

I'd wait for confirmation from someone besides Media Matters before calling it a "suspension".

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:55 PM (Kpl3J)

264 261
It's no bad enough they suspended Tucker for 2 weeks...
Huh? For what?


Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 02:55 PM (77WPm)

Wrongspeak.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 02:55 PM (t6MX/)

265 It is humiliating that anyone would run on the issue this way.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 12, 2019 02:55 PM (r8FdI)

266 I just hope the Chinese government doesn't buy that shit.

because underestimating a potential adversary is how world wars start.
--------------------------
The young and privileged Chinese have no fucking idea how weak their position is. All they've known is boom times and endless political education. Should China get frisky they basically lose their sea lanes to the world. If they want to go full crazy they can march and drive to India, Vietnam, or Middle East. Napoleonic warfare really doesn't work too well these days.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (2LelM)

267 Canada also has according to Leftists the greatest free health care system, certainly has the room

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (BbGew)

268 China would need a network of allies willing to fight the US for it to be a world war. It does not have one presently.
Posted by: Someguy at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (yOykd)

Well, to be fair -- most of our allies don't really bring much to the table either.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (GBteo)

269 Bander, shoot a box of standard pressure .38s in that thing and get back to us.


Prediction: pain


Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (QDnY+)

270 China would need a network of allies willing to fight the US for it to be a world war. It does not have one presently.
Posted by: Someguy at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (yOykd)

I think even most of our other enemies realize how much worse off they'd be if China was the global hegemon.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (J+mig)

271 It's no bad enough they suspended Tucker for 2 weeks... His replacement is.... Donna Brazille
Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (O2RFr)

You're joking?
What was Tucker suspended for?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (NFEMn)

272 Does China still have MFN status?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (oVJmc)

273 259 >>The issue is that if the candidates aren't listening to anything other than leftist Twitter now, are they suddenly going to change tactics in the general election, especially if listening to Leftist Twitter got them the nomination to begin with?


My guess is they'll let the MSM do the heavy lifting of trying to convince the American public that they didn't really mean all that stuff, and show us where they said that (wink, wink, thanks Google for your updated algorithm hiding those comments). Also: shut up with your conspiracy theories, white supremist!!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (bDqIh)

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Will the media be able to pull that off?

The problem is that they've fractured.

The NYT will go full "centrist", for sure.

MSNBC and CNN? Will they be able to back away from full Resistance, especially when Trump keeps lobbing out easy little tweets designed to piss them off and wedge them away from centrists?

I really think the media has screwed itself over the last 20 years, and we're beginning to see its ultimate downfall.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (iikV8)

274 Is Joe Biden cheering on the Chinese in Hong Kong? I mean, all that Chinese cash has to buy some loyalty? Amirite?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2019 02:57 PM (FDy+L)

275 I'd wait for confirmation from someone besides Media Matters before calling it a "suspension".

Hope you're right, though it's been "mentioned" on some valid sites

Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 02:57 PM (O2RFr)

276 247
I just hope the Chinese government doesn't buy that shit.

because underestimating a potential adversary is how world wars start.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:50 PM (GBteo)

China would need a network of allies willing to fight the US for it to be a world war. It does not have one presently.
Posted by: Someguy at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (yOykd)

See China's Belt and Road initiative. They're hoping to buy them some allies.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 12, 2019 02:57 PM (RD7QR)

277 I'd wait for confirmation from someone besides Media Matters before calling it a "suspension".
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:55 PM (Kpl3J)



What do they say about Laura I. then? She's been out too.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 02:57 PM (vEIlU)

278 So Biden has the mental capacity to switch back to moderate, Lunch Bucket "Scranton Joe" mode after spouting Leftist shit for over a year?
Doubtful.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (NFEMn)


Ah, behold the magic of the MSM.

On its face, you'd think a no-accomplishment, kinda sorta American named "Hussein," with a bizarre life story, lots of unexplained odd events (e.g., trip to Pakistan), disturbing ties to Muslims, a ranting anti-American pastor, a terrorist bomb-building buddy, and a bitchy entitled wife wouldn't have a dog's chance of getting the nomination, much less elected.

But then you'd be wrong, once the MSM worked its magic.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (YqDXo)

279 256
Mr Peebles, there's been talk of sanctions and other measures if China does what they tend to do, in Hong Kong.


It isn't the sanctions or other governmental actions that will do the most damage. A crackdown will accelerate the departure of lots of companies to other countries, not because they're outraged, but because they fear the uncertainty associated with the crackdown. Better to start a new supply chain that doesn't have all these problems.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (T6t7i)

280 >>Will the media be able to pull that off?


They will try, just as they've done for decades.
Not counting on them pulling it off.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (bDqIh)

281 I'm reading a biography or Reagan and the left was convinced he had demential in 1983 and 1984. And they had all sorts of "proof" too, all scientific like!!

It's an easy cheap shot to call the old guy you don't like senile.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 02:47 PM (FiUMj)


Reagan never acted as stupid as this blowhard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (y7DUB)

282 234 Well SOMETHING'S going on because the market is nose-diving.
Don't worry. There will be an Epstein Bounce tomorrow.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 12, 2019 02:52 PM (Dh1wo)

Did you miss what's happening in Hong Kong? Markets are terrified because if Hong Kong blows and Chinese reprisals follow, a whole lot of domino's are going to fall.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (Kpl3J)

283 And by "waxing his Trans Am", you mean......


Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (T6t7i)

+++
LOL. I should have known better.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (9+jnX)

284 The young and privileged Chinese have no fucking idea how weak their position is. All they've known is boom times and endless political education. Should China get frisky they basically lose their sea lanes to the world. If they want to go full crazy they can march and drive to India, Vietnam, or Middle East. Napoleonic warfare really doesn't work too well these days.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (2LelM)

Yeah, it's bizarre. Extreme India-level poverty is within their parents living memory, and certainly their grandparents.

And all of that ended when the US decided to try to end communism in China by opening our markets to them.

We could just as easily close those markets.

It would affect us short term, but let's be real -- there are no shortage of incredibly poor peasants around the world willing to do menial labor in a factory for cheap.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (GBteo)

285
They will do ANYTHING to get Tucker. Don't believe a word.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 02:59 PM (vEIlU)

286 278 On its face, you'd think a no-accomplishment, kinda sorta American named "Hussein," with a bizarre life story, lots of unexplained odd events (e.g., trip to Pakistan), disturbing ties to Muslims, a ranting anti-American pastor, a terrorist bomb-building buddy, and a bitchy entitled wife wouldn't have a dog's chance of getting the nomination, much less elected.

But then you'd be wrong, once the MSM worked its magic.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (YqDXo)

=========

Ah, but they were up against sacrificial lamb John McCain.

This time, they have an incumbent Trump who knows exactly how to push so many buttons.

I don't think the movement to the center will work that well. The media too fractured, the far left too powerful within the Democratic Party, Trump too in control of the overall situation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 02:59 PM (iikV8)

287 How about this:

We take in 2 million more and then we shut it down completely? I mean, guns on the border walls shut down.

How about fuck no. We take no more and we start sending people, especially those who have no desire to assimilate, home. You've been here 10 years and you can't speak english? Go back. You've been on welfare the last 5 years? Go back. No more birthright citizenship. You cross the border to squirt out a kid and don't pay a dime? Fuck you, go home. H1B's need to go the fuck back home as well. We've been sold this lie that the "Asian" (Indian) workers they are bringing over here are highly qualified and are educated beyond what is available in the US. They're absolutely not. They get over here, get into management and then discriminate against anyone that isn't "Asian". And now with the forced diversity and inclusion that is permeating all US corporations, that means they discriminate against white men. The management doesn't give a fuck, because they are cheaper. Sure you have to hire 3 to do the job of one onshore resource, but hey....fuck whitey.

Posted by: Resist_we_Much at August 12, 2019 03:00 PM (BkYvb)

288 >>I'm not sure a shock collar will work on Joe. Maybe a muzzle?

I could go for a sniff and a nuzzle.
Wait, what?

Posted by: Slow Joe at August 12, 2019 03:00 PM (daAqw)

289 Why an "Asian and Latino" coalition?
Posted by: Hikaru at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM



Worked for me

Posted by: Alberto Fujimori at August 12, 2019 03:00 PM (786Ro)

290 Tucker is a stand up human compared to this
thefederalist.com/msnbc-panelist-white-people-destroy
https://tinyurl.com/yywx24b7

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 03:00 PM (BbGew)

291 He missed the part about tyrants?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 02:45 PM (t6MX/)


He must have been thinking Deplorables = tyrants.

Posted by: fly gal at August 12, 2019 03:00 PM (8TdcF)

292 Did you miss what's happening in Hong Kong? Markets are terrified because if Hong Kong blows and Chinese reprisals follow, a whole lot of domino's are going to fall.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (Kpl3J)

This probably has Trump's full attention.
He hasn't tweeted all day....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (NFEMn)

293 See China's Belt and Road initiative. They're hoping to buy them some allies.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 12, 2019 02:57 PM (RD7QR)

On paper, I'm sure China could rally a decent number of allies.

Other than Pakistan, whose loyalties are always dubious, none of their trading partners belt / road countries (ie: the people who are in debt slavery to china) have any kind of military to speak of, though.

But as I said upthread, that's true of most of our allies as well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (GBteo)

294 251 It's no bad enough they suspended Tucker for 2 weeks... His replacement is.... Donna Brazille
Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (O2RFr)

Can't wait for the ratings.

Posted by: Esperanza Gomez at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (QwmrN)

295 Bander, shoot a box of standard pressure .38s in that thing and get back to us.


Shall do. I'll report that to the gub thread.

For today little Ruger and I are just going to hold hands, and I'll tell it how cute it is and oh don't you fit my hand so nicely and maybe we'll hang out and watch a show.

I can tell that we are going to be friends.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (fuK7c)

296

Joe Biden isn't smart enough to win. He couldn't even get this right.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (vEIlU)

297 What I think the Dems fear most is a split in their party. If that happens they are forever two minority parties with no way to deliver on policy, judges, and favors to donors. This seems to be what is going on. My sense is the adults in the party want to burn their crazies at the stake so they can re-assert control and discipline.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (2LelM)

298 Pep I know, and that's been happening since the entrumpenation and adoption of tough policies. I noted a few times last week that Beijing's latitude here may well be limited by the fact that they can't really risk what will happen to their investment/financial/uncertainty situation, already serious, by launching a bloodbath in HK. Guess we'll see.


Friend in a very China-centric industry, for sourcing, says brands have been looking to shift manufacturing out of China for over a year.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (QDnY+)

299 There will be an Epstein Bounce tomorrow.


We heard a bounce but didn't think nothin of it.

Posted by: MCC guards at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (786Ro)

300 Why an "Asian and Latino" coalition?
Posted by: Hikaru at August 12, 2019 02:51 PM


Worked for me
Posted by: Alberto Fujimori at August 12, 2019 03:00 PM (786Ro)

It's actually a natural alliance.

The Asians are being groomed to take charge of the Latino hordes on behalf of the Democrats.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (NFEMn)

301 >>How about fuck no. We take no more and we start sending people, especially those who have no desire to assimilate, home. You've been here 10 years and you can't speak english? Go back. You've been on welfare the last 5 years? Go back. No more birthright citizenship. You cross the border to squirt out a kid and don't pay a dime? Fuck you, go home. H1B's need to go the fuck back home as well.


I agree.
We need a full accounting of how many illegals are currently here before anything. No more of this "11 million" BS.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (bDqIh)

302 Bite me, Tom.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (Dh1wo)

303 Shuffle Girl > Wii Fit Girl

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (ZLI7S)

304 It isn't the sanctions or other governmental actions that will do the most damage. A crackdown will accelerate the departure of lots of companies to other countries, not because they're outraged, but because they fear the uncertainty associated with the crackdown. Better to start a new supply chain that doesn't have all these problems.
Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (T6t7i)


This.

If there's one thing businessmen hate, it's uncertainty. It's why the Reign of Error had such a weak economy: businessmen had no idea what Obama might do next, and so just hunkered down to wait and see.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (YqDXo)

305 They will do ANYTHING to get Tucker. Don't believe a word.

I agree.. It's the only Fox show I watch... I watch every night and he never mentioned he was going on "vacation" and you think he would

Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (O2RFr)

306 171
> "There are videos of Chinese truck convoys moving into Hong Kong on Twitter and at Gateway Pundit.

We may be looking at Tiananmen Two; The Kalashnikov Bugaloo."

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 02:39 PM (Sdc4d)



>>"Frankly, I'm a little worried about the Chinese. The Chinese
nationals I know / knew (mostly foreign exchange students) seem to have a
very... inflated view of China."


John Derbyshire (who married a Chinese woman and has interacted extensively for years with that culture) knows exactly what it's like to "hit the wall" with the Chinese people. He's come to the firm conclusion that "For all their veneer of sophistication and modernity, the Chinese are trapped in a pre-modern, almost prehistoric view of their own superiority and nationality." And there isn't "the merest, faintest sign that they will ever change."

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 12, 2019 03:03 PM (A9v7L)

307 On paper, I'm sure China could rally a decent number of allies.



Other than Pakistan, whose loyalties are always dubious, none of
their trading partners belt / road countries (ie: the people who are in
debt slavery to china) have any kind of military to speak of, though.


True, but given the chance to say "F** China" and repudiate all that debt they can't pay back, why wouldn't they. China has zero friends. None.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 03:03 PM (T6t7i)

308 "Thing is whether it's 220T or infinity doesn't
really matter. 220T might as well be infinity, that number is so big
that it is kinda meaningless. ... Both numbers are beyond the level of anything
I could do about it so make it 500 gazillion, it all means the same." Posted by: Lurking Lurker


Some think the point where we can't even keep up with the interest will be significant. idk, I think they just move on to full QE ... why pay any interest and bother with lending? Lending was to impose discipline ... complete failure so just print, like continental currency for the first revolution.

Inflating the markets just makes the oligarchs even richer, and those with debt more indebted to them. We are getting an oligarchy via the proxy of monetary policy. And they get to keep their slaves, foreign and domestic.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 03:03 PM (Cus5s)

309 297 What I think the Dems fear most is a split in their party. If that happens they are forever two minority parties with no way to deliver on policy, judges, and favors to donors. This seems to be what is going on. My sense is the adults in the party want to burn their crazies at the stake so they can re-assert control and discipline.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (2LelM)

===========

If they lose in 2020 (especially if it extends so far as a loss of control of the House), I think the split will begin.

They'll be completely out of power at the federal level again. They will have lost to literally Hitler twice in a row, and the civil war within the party that's been low level fought for a few years will explode.

The establishment will try to push out the far left. The Far Left will do the same. One faction will gain control of the party apparatus (the DNC, DCCC, etc.) and purge it of the other side, blaming that other side for the loss. The losing side in that won't take the purge kindly and will flock to another party, if not start their own.

For America, Democrats must lose in 2020.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
World famous in Poland
at August 12, 2019 03:03 PM (iikV8)

310 The danger emanating from China isn't that of a physical war. It's the threat of a trade war that might ripple through world markets, affecting every trade relationship throughout the world. No one knows what would happen, and that uncertainty drives investor's fears. Because the worst case would be the kind of disruption that happened in 1930 - 1931, when World Trade collapsed by something like 50% in a very short period of time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 03:03 PM (Kpl3J)

311 Shall do. I'll report that to the gub thread.

For today little Ruger and I are just going to hold hands, and I'll tell it how cute it is and oh don't you fit my hand so nicely and maybe we'll hang out and watch a show.

I can tell that we are going to be friends.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (fuK7c)

You're not sleeping with it, are you Bander?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (ycWCI)

312 They will do ANYTHING to get Tucker. Don't believe a word.

I agree.. It's the only Fox show I watch... I watch every night and he never mentioned he was going on "vacation" and you think he would
Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (O2RFr)

True---but it IS UNLIKELY that Tucker wouldn't take a vacation.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (NFEMn)

313 Shuffle Girl works hard.

Posted by: Esperanza Gomez at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (QwmrN)

314 Hey Joe, lookin' good!

Posted by: Koch Bros. Inc. at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (qQE8l)

315 Markets are terrified because if Hong Kong blows and Chinese reprisals follow, a whole lot of domino's are going to fall.

China is hollow, and everyone knows it. Kinda like how everyone knew about Epstein and Weinstein.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (ZGrMX)

316 >>For today little Ruger and I are just going to hold hands, and I'll tell it how cute it is and oh don't you fit my hand so nicely and maybe we'll hang out and watch a show.


Is it a coincidence that you move to NJ and then buy a gun?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (bDqIh)

317 It's no bad enough they suspended Tucker for 2 weeks... His replacement is.... Donna Brazille
Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (O2RFr)

Can't wait for the ratings.
Posted by: Esperanza Gomez at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (QwmrN)


People who watch Tucker will not watch lying Donna.

I've seen Bongino...and that other guy on fox and friends in the morning.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (vEIlU)

318 If there's one thing businessmen hate, it's
uncertainty. It's why the Reign of Error had such a weak economy:
businessmen had no idea what Obama might do next, and so just hunkered
down to wait and see.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (YqDXo)

And what he had done - shanking bondholders in favor of unions, politically targeting conservative business owners - justifiably put the fear into them.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (t6MX/)

319 292 Did you miss what's happening in Hong Kong? Markets are terrified because if Hong Kong blows and Chinese reprisals follow, a whole lot of domino's are going to fall.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (Kpl3J)
-----------------------
If this happens it is a win - win for the US and Britain. The flight of capital and human capital would kneecap China for the for several decades. They would be without their number one customer and would have scared off the Euros.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:05 PM (2LelM)

320 And today the're freaking out because the new "rules" to take effect in Oct. stop people from getting green cards if they can't support themselves...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 03:05 PM (O2RFr)

321 The left: overpopulation will kill us all and destroy the environment



Also the left: we need more people. As long as they are the right kind.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 12, 2019 03:05 PM (3cfl2)

322 Any WA morons know if we can buy a gun in ID? Hubs, son and I were at Cabela's in ID yesterday and son saw a gun he liked.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 12, 2019 03:05 PM (Ez6QX)

323 270 China would need a network of allies willing to fight the US for it to be a world war. It does not have one presently.
Posted by: Someguy at August 12, 2019 02:53 PM (yOykd)

I think even most of our other enemies realize how much worse off they'd be if China was the global hegemon.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 02:56 PM (J+mig)

China isn't capable and won't be capable of maintaining global peace(should it even have the interest in doing so). Anyone who has expansionist ambitions may rationally favor China to the US holding the world in place.

Being the strongest country isn't equivalent to being dominant in the fashion the US currently is.

Posted by: Someguy at August 12, 2019 03:05 PM (yOykd)

324 Like, they actually believe that the US would never go to war with China, and if we did, we'd lose miserably. They also actually believe that we need China more than China needs us. Even when I say, "the average american consumer doesn't care if their socks are made in China or Vietnam, and I can't imagine that there would be much of a price difference there."

Several of them said "the US would never go to war to defend Japan." and it's like "errr... yeah, I think we would."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 02:42 PM (GBteo)

I am not as sure that the military is as strong as it once was. The navy had a bad problem of crashing into other ships for a while there which points to some serious training and personnel problems.

The U.S. will not go to war over Hong Kong, and perhaps not even Taiwan. Japan absolutely. China's military has been improving significantly in recent decades, but how much is questionable. They certainly aren't better than the U.S. but given the numbers they don't have to be.

It would be a naval conflict and the Chinese are betting that their missile forces are large enough and advanced enough that they will penetrate the carrier battle group missile defences. I think the jury on that is still out but it could be a paradigm shift if they are right.

Economically there are very vulnerable, but if it comes to that the financial house of cards may come down for everyone. The derivatives and debt owed by almost everyone cannot be repaid.

It would be a shitshow all the way around.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 03:05 PM (5o8nq)

325 China is hollow, and everyone knows it. Kinda like how everyone knew about Epstein and Weinstein.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (ZGrMX)

China: The Haven Moynahan of countries.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:06 PM (ycWCI)

326 311
Shall do. I'll report that to the gub thread.



For today little Ruger and I are just going to hold hands, and I'll
tell it how cute it is and oh don't you fit my hand so nicely and maybe
we'll hang out and watch a show.



I can tell that we are going to be friends.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (fuK7c)



You're not sleeping with it, are you Bander?



Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (ycWCI)

You'll shoot your one-eyed trouser snake off.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:06 PM (t6MX/)

327 So, we're gonna do a remake of Chico and the Man!

The idea is it's a family of wealthy Venezuelan Marxists who are fleeing Venezuela with the money they stole, uh, saved during the good times under Chavez and now they're seeking political asylum to hang on to their loot that the new government is trying to reclaim.

But because they're refugees from Venezuela they move in with Joe Biden, who thinks they're poor, and he spends a lot of time calling in favors with his government buddies to outwit the Venezuelan government who Joe thinks is being run by Stalin. So he takes them out and buys them things and speaks "Spanish" to them by talking loudly and adding "O" to the end of every he thinks sounds like it should have one on it.

Oh, and they have a teenage daughter who he's constantly groping by accident.
It'll be hilarious!


Posted by: Hollywood exec at August 12, 2019 03:06 PM (37IEG)

328 312 They will do ANYTHING to get Tucker. Don't believe a word.

I agree.. It's the only Fox show I watch... I watch every night and he never mentioned he was going on "vacation" and you think he would
Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 03:02 PM (O2RFr)

True---but it IS UNLIKELY that Tucker wouldn't take a vacation.
----------------
Tucker announce last thursday he was taking his son fishing. He didn't specify how long, though.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:06 PM (2LelM)

329 I wrote off Fox due to Donna Brazil's.

So Fox suspends Tucker yet MSNBC host says white people must be destroyed.

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 03:06 PM (BbGew)

330 Is it a coincidence that you move to NJ and then buy a gun?

Last weeks in CT. It took me ages and $$$ to get legal here and I have no idea what NJ will be like, so it's a last gasp.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (fuK7c)

331 Iran also seems to be a little cooperative with China ...

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (Cus5s)

332 Dems always want less people/smaller population for America because Environment Catastrophe-Sustainabilty... Except when it's immigrants, who numbers and huge families are always welcome. I guess we are to believe they won't pollute or use any natural resources or crowd the roads and cities.


Just more evidence the Dems don't give a damn about any of their pet issues, expect one: more power for the Party

Posted by: Ripley at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (MxEKc)

333 Joe Biden isn't smart enough to win.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (vEIlU)


And Obama was?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (YqDXo)

334 >>People who watch Tucker will not watch lying Donna.


That is the funniest pick for replacement host.
What could they possibly be thinking - was Juan Williams on vacation, too?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (bDqIh)

335 310 The danger emanating from China isn't that of a physical war. It's the threat of a trade war that might ripple through world markets, affecting every trade relationship throughout the world. No one knows what would happen, and that uncertainty drives investor's fears. Because the worst case would be the kind of disruption that happened in 1930 - 1931, when World Trade collapsed by something like 50% in a very short period of time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 03:03 PM (Kpl3J)

I don't think it would be as bad as you think. But again, as you say -- hard to know.

*most* of the high tech manufacturing can shift almost immediately to Thailand and South Korea, two countries that already do a decent amount of our tech manufacturing.

As for the low tech stuff? Frankly, I'd love to see "made in Guatemala" on my next snow shovel I buy at Walmart. That kind of manufacturing could really happen anywhere in the world with lax labor and environmental laws and a large pool of very poor people willing to work for cheap.

I just don't see what China brings to the table that's unique to China, other than their current supply lines and the sheer scale of what they manufacture. But supply lines and scale can both be, um, scaled up pretty quickly if need be.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (GBteo)

336 Just more evidence the Dems don't give a damn about any of their pet issues, expect one: more power for the Party
Posted by: Ripley at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (MxEKc)

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (ycWCI)

337 Don't waste my time kid, I was told there would be paste.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (r8FdI)

338 322
Any WA morons know if we can buy a gun in ID? Hubs, son and I were at Cabela's in ID yesterday and son saw a gun he liked.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 12, 2019 03:05 PM (Ez6QX)

Rifle's, yes, without further WA state action, although I don't know if ID FFLs are reluctant about WA I-1639 semiauto rifle requirements. Pistols, I believe, have to go through WA state FFL, IIRC.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:08 PM (t6MX/)

339 Rifles not rifle's. Jeebus.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:08 PM (t6MX/)

340 So Fox suspends Tucker yet MSNBC host says white people must be destroyed.
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 03:06 PM (BbGew)


Who's going to pay for welfare in that case? This obviously has not been thought through.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:08 PM (YqDXo)

341 Tucker announce last thursday he was taking his son fishing. He didn't specify how long, though.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:06 PM (2LelM)


oh yes he did

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 03:08 PM (vEIlU)

342 I was alive when this country hit 200 million people and am not yet in a rocking chair. This country has grown its population by more than 50% my lifetime, primarily by immigration from the Third World.

And in case Slow Joe hasn't realized we have chewed up most of the East coast and large swaths of the rest of the country with more and more "development", our schools are more crowded, our traffic is far worse, and the country is on the verge of complete cultural balkanization.

But other than that just keep sending em in.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 12, 2019 03:08 PM (koNhm)

343 4 fire words in English
Fire
Pyre
pyro
Ignite

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (k81AA)

344 So we are going to have build some styrofoam greek columns to the get Biden over the finish line?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (2LelM)

345 http://bit.ly/2Md2yLP
*******
Alec Baldwin Claims Russia Killed Jeffrey Epstein: 'They're in Charge of Everything'
*******
So you admit they were in charge of Hollyweird, Clinton Mafia The Chocolate Buddha

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (BqBId)

346 www.imao.us/buttigieg trump mirrors hitlers rhetoric by using-a very similar alphabet
https://tinyurl.com/y59kyoge

I can't take it anymore, going out to cut the lawn

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (BbGew)

347 Tucker announce last thursday he was taking his son fishing. He didn't specify how long, though.

I missed that.. I did hear his replacement say that

Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (O2RFr)

348 Country's full, Joe. Moose out from should have told ya.

Posted by: Grump928(C)
at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (5uF3p)

349 I just got into it with a guy at work about his dear 80 year old mother in law. Trumps rule change affects her.

I say: "Why should tax payers(me ) have to pay for her?

He says: "If she was white you would pay".

I say: "I don't fucking care what color she is, does she belong here?"

Good times.

Posted by: nip at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (DfGpI)

350 333 Joe Biden isn't smart enough to win.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (vEIlU)

And Obama was?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (YqDXo)

The question is not whether they are smart enough (God knows), but rather whether Biden has the same telegenic, odd social appeal Obama had that allows people to completely ignore all of the stupid shit he says in order to believe the lie they want to tell themselves.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (ycWCI)

351 326 311
Shall do. I'll report that to the gub thread.



For today little Ruger and I are just going to hold hands, and I'll
tell it how cute it is and oh don't you fit my hand so nicely and maybe
we'll hang out and watch a show.



I can tell that we are going to be friends.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 12, 2019 03:01 PM (fuK7c)



You're not sleeping with it, are you Bander?


Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:04 PM (ycWCI)

You'll shoot your one-eyed trouser snake off.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:06 PM (t6MX/)


The tramp was wearing Hoppe's perfume, right? Hard to resist "love potion #9".

Posted by: Roy at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (DDeWs)

352
I just don't see what China brings to the table that's unique to China

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One thing they do have is an enormous population that are totally cool with being slaves and see it as the natural order.

I think if you try that in South America, you'll be met with less success.

Not that it couldn't be done, but those people would demand some kind of money and dignity for their work, so prices would rise.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (AzW6q)

353 Did you miss what's happening in Hong Kong? Markets are terrified because if Hong Kong blows and Chinese reprisals follow, a whole lot of domino's are going to fall.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 02:58 PM (Kpl3J)


I'm still incredulous at how they're treating their cash cow, even with fully understanding what totalitarian fucks they are. Speaking of which, any yelps of outrage from our rock worshipping cultist politicians about the concentration camps the ChiComs have their fellow cultists in? Tlaib? Omar? Keith X? They love using Third Reich imagery so this should be right in their wheelhouse.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 12, 2019 03:10 PM (y7DUB)

354 As for the low tech stuff? Frankly, I'd love to see "made in Guatemala" on my next snow shovel I buy at Walmart. That kind of manufacturing could really happen anywhere in the world with lax labor and environmental laws and a large pool of very poor people willing to work for cheap.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (GBteo)


I've wondered why Africa doesn't get in on this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

355 345
http://bit.ly/2Md2yLP

*******

Alec Baldwin Claims Russia Killed Jeffrey Epstein: 'They're in Charge of Everything'

*******

So you admit they were in charge of Hollyweird, Clinton Mafia The Chocolate Buddha



Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (BqBId)

Alec Baldwin is one of Epstein's acquaintances. And a TDS tard.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:10 PM (t6MX/)

356 And Obama was?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (YqDXo)


yes, he was intellectually devious and clever

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (vEIlU)

357 I know that a 3-judge Appellate Court panel ruled in favor of the Administration's attempt to use DOD funds to build the Wall. What's the current legal status of the Wall funding?

Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (Pqytn)

358 >>Last weeks in CT. It took me ages and $$$ to get legal here and I have no idea what NJ will be like, so it's a last gasp.

Ugh, what tim___. Have fun with your new acquisition!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (bDqIh)

359 One thing they do have is an enormous population that are totally cool with being slaves and see it as the natural order.

I think if you try that in South America, you'll be met with less success.

Not that it couldn't be done, but those people would demand some kind of money and dignity for their work, so prices would rise.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (AzW6q)

Which is also why Hong Kong is such a danger to them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (ycWCI)

360 I've wondered why Africa doesn't get in on this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

Machetes. They know a good machete when they see one.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (t6MX/)

361 It would be a naval conflict and the Chinese are betting that their missile forces are large enough and advanced enough that they will penetrate the carrier battle group missile defences. I think the jury on that is still out but it could be a paradigm shift if they are right.

It would be a shitshow all the way around.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 03:05 PM (5o8nq)


Yeahhhh... maybe.

But I have a hard time believing we couldn't wipe out Chinas entire navy in a matter of hours, even if their missiles had the ability to destroy every US aircraft carrier currently floating between the US mainland and China.

A land war? Eh, it'd be a shit show, for sure.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (GBteo)

362 Ok. 3% from south/central America. 50% from China and India? Let's do this fair by world population percentages.

Oh and that means the 40% Mexican illegals already here need to go back. You're WAY over your allowed amount.

Posted by: joseph dagostino at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (3w9Fm)

363 I just don't see what China brings to the table that's unique to China, other than their current supply lines and the sheer scale of what they manufacture. But supply lines and scale can both be, um, scaled up pretty quickly if need be.
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What China brings to the table is cheap labor with a Mean IQ of 107. You ain't gonna find that in Guatemala.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (2LelM)

364 But because they're refugees from Venezuela they move in with Joe Biden, who thinks they're poor, and he spends a lot of time calling in favors with his government buddies to outwit the Venezuelan government who Joe thinks is being run by Stalin. So he takes them out and buys them things and speaks "Spanish" to them by talking loudly and adding "O" to the end of every he thinks sounds like it should have one on it.

Oh, and they have a teenage daughter who he's constantly groping by accident.
It'll be hilarious!

And Chico will be a good looking guy, who's funny, always after that ladies, and for some reason The Man Biden will always call him Epstein-O. And then he'll suddenly commit suicide for no reason.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (Kpl3J)

365 And Obama was?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:07 PM (YqDXo)

The question is not whether they are smart enough (God knows), but rather whether Biden has the same telegenic, odd social appeal Obama had that allows people to completely ignore all of the stupid shit he says in order to believe the lie they want to tell themselves.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (ycWCI)

Obama was usually smart enough to stick to the script.
And when he didn't, the MSM had his back.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (NFEMn)

366 I wonder if ole uncle Joe has taken a look at the federal debt tally before he proclaims that we can afford to absorb more welfare cases.

Posted by: Defenestratus at August 12, 2019 03:12 PM (kI/3T)

367 Yeah, why doesn't Canada take on more of these people? It's a rich, very white country in desperate need of diversification.

___

Very white? Uhm maybe 1982 Canada. 2019 Canada....not so much.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:12 PM (FiUMj)

368 360 I've wondered why Africa doesn't get in on this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

Machetes. They know a good machete when they see one.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (t6MX/)

That's also the answer to the question.

Posted by: Roy at August 12, 2019 03:12 PM (DDeWs)

369 ]I've wondered why Africa doesn't get in on this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


They are, to some extent, but poor infrastructure (roads, electricity, water, no bugs that can kill you) and a culture of corruption limit their potential. Plus, Ebola!

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM (T6t7i)

370 Thanks flounder!

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM (Ez6QX)

371 A land war? Eh, it'd be a shit show, for sure.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (GBteo)

Didn't I say, Never get involved in a land war in Asia???

Posted by: Vizzini at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM (Kpl3J)

372 www.imao.us/buttigieg trump mirrors hitlers rhetoric by using-a very similar alphabet
https://tinyurl.com/y59kyoge

I can't take it anymore, going out to cut the lawn
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (BbGew)


Forget it, it's the virus talking.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM (YqDXo)

373 What's the current legal status of the Wall funding?
Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (Pqytn)

___

Snopes confirmed the status is RACIST!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM (FiUMj)

374 They are, to some extent, but poor infrastructure (roads, electricity, water, no bugs that can kill you) and a culture of corruption limit their potential.

-------------

But enough about Flint.

Posted by: SH at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM (sX1BW)

375 TRUST THE PLAN!!! We have a collective of billionaires who are buying up Guatemala. The goal is to turn it into a vacation mecca paradise, and we're not going to let them back in. Bonus: Dancing monkeys!!!!

Posted by: Q at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM (bgfnz)

376 Here is my rifle's
and here is my rifles
One o' them's for possession
the other's for more 'n one!
two, three,
two, three!

Posted by: new recruits fresh outta public high school at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM (Dh1wo)

377 Obama was usually smart enough to stick to the script.
And when he didn't, the MSM had his back.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (NFEMn)

But he also depended not just on the MSM, but the cultural factors that allowed people to believe the lie rather than their own eyes and ears.

Example: Obama is a great orator.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:14 PM (ycWCI)

378 Obama was usually smart enough to stick to the script.
And when he didn't, the MSM had his back.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (NFEMn)


"Stand here, Barry, and read the words on the screen. That's a good boy."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:14 PM (YqDXo)

379 I've wondered why Africa doesn't get in on this.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

Well, two reasons:
1) most of africa is disorganized as fuck with no real infrastructure and all kinds of related issues
and
2) China has 40+ years of negotiating favorable trade deals with us.

There are countries in Africa that could, conceivably, definitely get in on it if we wanted to let them.

I think India is eyeing this China / US situation and rubbing their hands. Modi has been on a big "MOAR MANUFACTURING!!!" and "stop buying shit from China, buy India!" crusade.

If we gave them the same favorable trade deals we give China, I think we could see an overnight shift of "made in china" to "made in India."

I don't know if India is necessarily a better deal for the US economy, or US workers, or whatever. But from a pure geopolitical move... if I were trump, i'd at least pretend to make moves in that direction.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:14 PM (GBteo)

380 Fox says he is on vacation and will be back on Aug 19.. Said it was planned... I'll take them at their word, but Tucker would never pick Brazille as a replacement unless he wants his ratings to plummet

Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 03:15 PM (O2RFr)

381 LOLGF!!

A 13 year old girl spray painted city hall in Seattle. She got arrested. Now she's whining that it was a mistake and she thought she was using washable chalk.

What did she spray paint? Some global warming nonsense.

And of course the Seattle press is all "how dare these fascist police arrest an innocent young girl?".

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:15 PM (FiUMj)

382 Asian & Latino Coalition PAC???

Just WTF are these asshats?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (axyOa)

383 China doesn't have the targeting capability at this time to track the carriers, guide the missile to the target. Optical? Yeah, try that with clouds at 4000 mph. The threat is very real but as they build targeting we build defenses. Don't bet lasers aren't already in the game as well as railguns.

Not to mention the US sub fleet is a far more potent threat.

Why would you attack your biggest customer?

Posted by: joseph dagostino at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (3w9Fm)

384 Here's an OT question: can anybody recommend a good one-stop shop for gun control myth-busting? My progressive brother has sent me an annoying email citing some former military "armorer" making the case for gun restrictions. I know its larded with misinformation but would like to respond on point.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (H8QX8)

385 "It's no bad enough they suspended Tucker for 2 weeks... His replacement is.... Donna Brazille"

why punish the viewers? oh, because FOX is now run by Dem activists.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (Cus5s)

386 But he also depended not just on the MSM, but the cultural factors that allowed people to believe the lie rather than their own eyes and ears.

Example: Obama is a great orator.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:14 PM (ycWCI)

You spelled "orator" wrong.

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (NFEMn)

387 ". . . who are in desperate need and who are justifiably weak, and fleeing depression is absolutely bizarre."


Depression is not grounds for asylum or admittance.


That's economics.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (cn/uI)

388 Obama was usually smart enough to stick to the script.
And when he didn't, the MSM had his back.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (NFEMn)


he was also an extraordinarily good liar - he was a psychopathic liar

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (vEIlU)

389 What did she spray paint? Some global warming nonsense.

And of course the Seattle press is all "how dare these fascist police arrest an innocent young girl?".
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:15 PM (FiUMj)

Imagine the outrage if she had painted "MAGA!!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (Kpl3J)

390 Here's an OT question: can anybody recommend a good one-stop shop for gun control myth-busting? My progressive brother has sent me an annoying email citing some former military "armorer" making the case for gun restrictions. I know its larded with misinformation but would like to respond on point.

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Have you tried, Fuck Off?

Posted by: SH at August 12, 2019 03:17 PM (sX1BW)

391 What China brings to the table is cheap labor with a Mean IQ of 107. You ain't gonna find that in Guatemala.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (2LelM)

First off, I'm dubious of China's claims about educational attainment and average IQ. But even if we give them that -- you don't need an IQ of 107 to assemble a cheap piece of shit plastic dish drying rack or whatever it is.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:17 PM (GBteo)

392 www.imao.us/buttigieg trump mirrors hitlers rhetoric by using-a very similar alphabet
https://tinyurl.com/y59kyoge

I can't take it anymore, going out to cut the lawn
Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 03:09 PM (BbGew)

Forget it, it's the virus talking.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara



What virus does Buttgig have now?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2019 03:17 PM (xkaSw)

393
Imagine the outrage if she had painted "MAGA!!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (Kpl3J

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"Fascist Police Refuse to Shoot Young Hitlerite Vandal"

Posted by: MSM at August 12, 2019 03:17 PM (AzW6q)

394 Example: Obama is a great orator.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:14 PM (ycWCI)

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My goodness, yes. He's a good ol' fella(tor)

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 12, 2019 03:17 PM (i3oP7)

395 http://bit.ly/2Md2yLP
*******
Alec Baldwin Claims Russia Killed Jeffrey Epstein: 'They're in Charge of Everything'
*******
So you admit they were in charge of Hollyweird, Clinton Mafia The Chocolate Buddha
================
Ha Ha Ha

Is right! the stooped Baldwin. Trump is my stooge!!!!!!!

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at August 12, 2019 03:17 PM (b2CeE)

396 Here is my rifle's
and here is my rifles
One o' them's for possession
the other's for more 'n one!
two, three,
two, three!
Posted by: new recruits fresh outta public high school at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM


That just ain't right.

Posted by: Jody at August 12, 2019 03:18 PM (ejd/p)

397 LOLGF Joe.
Illegals, all of them, need to be deported.
Christians fleeing persecution; these people can come in.
Rest: fill your own damn place.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 12, 2019 03:18 PM (M/Wbj)

398 If you believe illegal aliens vote then more votes for the democrats!

Posted by: raimondo at August 12, 2019 03:18 PM (eyiKJ)

399 http://bit.ly/2McQien
*******

US Prison System Sinks to Third World Status - Even Mexico Provided Video of El Chapo's Prison Escape

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 03:18 PM (BqBId)

400 ]I've wondered why Africa doesn't get in on this.



Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

They are, to some
extent, but poor infrastructure (roads, electricity, water, no bugs that
can kill you) and a culture of corruption limit their potential. Plus,
Ebola!


Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 03:13 PM (T6t7i)

==============================
The Chinese are moving into Africa big time. They are purchasing natural resources and governments under the radar, with promises to "build up" infrastructure. That means roads with no or negligible road beds, poorly constructed housing, and a LOT of imported Chinese labor. The native population, especially the young people, are not pleased (as in "angry").

Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 03:18 PM (Pqytn)

401 Asian Latino Coalition PAC???


Just WTF are these asshats?

A half-hour after you've robbed some Gringo you want to do it again!

Posted by: andycanuck at August 12, 2019 03:18 PM (Dh1wo)

402 Here's an OT question: can anybody recommend a good one-stop shop for gun control myth-busting? My progressive brother has sent me an annoying email citing some former military "armorer" making the case for gun restrictions. I know its larded with misinformation but would like to respond on point.


"Shall not be infringed"

Pretty succinct.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2019 03:19 PM (xkaSw)

403 there will be numbers and words and immigrants minorities times ten plus young and democrats win and you all die

Posted by: raymondo at August 12, 2019 03:19 PM (AzW6q)

404 Why would you attack your biggest customer?
Huh?

Posted by: Fox News at August 12, 2019 03:19 PM (Dh1wo)

405 Only 2 million? What a racist, xenophobic bigot he is.

Posted by: dude1394 at August 12, 2019 03:19 PM (3exmE)

406 "Shall not be infringed"

Pretty succinct.

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If only the founders had wisely added, "now fuck off." to the end of the 2nd A.

Posted by: SH at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (sX1BW)

407 "Shall not be infringed"

Pretty succinct.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2019 03:19 PM (xkaSw)

___

Which is then followed by "well regulated" from a leftist.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (FiUMj)

408 379 I've wondered why Africa doesn't get in on this.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:10 PM (YqDXo)
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Sub Saharan Mean IQ is 75. Some countries (Somali) its 68. Mental Retardation bgins at 70 IQ.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (2LelM)

409 Hey everybody FAGMondo is back

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (BqBId)

410 Mitt Romney
45s

I'm in complete agreement with Senator Biden on the need for a comprehensive immigration plan that includes absorbing as many future converts to the US as we can afford. And because we have been so blessed by Providence, we can absorb quite a few!
It is unseemly to say no to the Senator's courageous and brave Immigration Plan.

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (NFEMn)

411 Looks like someone let the stupid in.

Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (77WPm)

412 Very good, rainman. No go get your shine box.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (ZLI7S)

413 The Chinese are moving into Africa big time. They are purchasing natural resources and governments under the radar, with promises to "build up" infrastructure. That means roads with no or negligible road beds, poorly constructed housing, and a LOT of imported Chinese labor. The native population, especially the young people, are not pleased (as in "angry").
Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 03:18 PM (Pqytn)

Yeah, I've been to several major cities in China.

I would not be too thrilled if they used their expertise to build "infrastructure" in my country either.

Or at the very least, I'd require a warranty.

Seriously though, 10 year old buildings with huge gaps in the windows, uneven floors, cracks in the walls. Like -- dude, even 100+ year old buildings in major US cities aren't falling apart this badly. You guys did do the math and hire engineers before you started the foundation work, right? Because buildings arent' supposed to settle this much in 10 years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:21 PM (GBteo)

414 Off Reggie Love sock

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:21 PM (NFEMn)

415 Depression is not grounds for asylum or admittance.

That's economics.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 12, 2019 03:16 PM (cn/uI)

That's a point we need to hammer home. An unspecific fear of crime isn't enough either.

War, political oppression, etc are what asylum is for. Allowing it for other purposes debases the process.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 03:21 PM (J+mig)

416 LOLGF!!

A 13 year old girl spray painted city hall in Seattle. She got arrested. Now she's whining that it was a mistake and she thought she was using washable chalk.

What did she spray paint? Some global warming nonsense.

And of course the Seattle press is all "how dare these fascist police arrest an innocent young girl?".
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:15 PM (FiUMj)



While I was jogging this morning thru the wilderness park, I saw that some a-hole had written pro-vegan message in giant chalk upon the sidewalk in several places.

I also saw a pretty great reply to the vegan nonsense which I hadn't seen before.

I LOL'd.

Someone (in giant chalk as well) had appended the "Go Vegan" message to read:

"Going Vegan is a missed steak!"

Posted by: naturalfake at August 12, 2019 03:21 PM (SHtRW)

417 Which is then followed by "well regulated" from a leftist.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker



Tell him to pick up a 18th century dictionary.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2019 03:21 PM (xkaSw)

418 > Here's an OT question: can anybody recommend a good one-stop shop for
gun control myth-busting? My progressive brother has sent me an annoying
email citing some former military "armorer" making the case for gun
restrictions. I know its larded with misinformation but would like to
respond on point.


Without specifics, it is hard to say. But it is also hard to beat John Lott's Crime Prevention Research Center.


https://crimeresearch.org/

On busting the white police shooting black youths, Heather MacDonald at City Journal does yeoman's work.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:21 PM (t6MX/)

419 Which is then followed by "well regulated" from a leftist.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (FiUMj)

Stack-up all the pages of gun-control laws at the federal, state, and (as appropriate) local levels. Seems pretty "heavily regulated" to me.

Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 03:22 PM (77WPm)

420 Every company level unit has 2 armorers. Not a big deal.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 12, 2019 03:22 PM (r8FdI)

421

It's obvious. Tucker and Laura put the hit on Epstein.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 03:22 PM (aKsyK)

422 Which is then followed by "well regulated" from a leftist.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker



Tell him to pick up a 18th century dictionary.

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Then tell him to fuck off.

Posted by: SH at August 12, 2019 03:22 PM (sX1BW)

423 Seriously though, 10 year old buildings with huge gaps in the windows, uneven floors, cracks in the walls. Like -- dude, even 100+ year old buildings in major US cities aren't falling apart this badly. You guys did do the math and hire engineers before you started the foundation work, right? Because buildings arent' supposed to settle this much in 10 years.
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Travel around FSU and see what the Soviets built. It will surprise you in its crudity.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:22 PM (2LelM)

424 Obama said we could "absorb" terrorist attacks. Did Biden just compare illegal immigrants to a terrorist attack?

Posted by: ... at August 12, 2019 03:22 PM (lHIDz)

425 War, political oppression, etc are what asylum is for.


Political oppression, by our enemies. I, for one, want the Tamil Tigers oppressed, unto death even.

Posted by: Grump928(C)
at August 12, 2019 03:23 PM (5uF3p)

426 https://cnb.cx/2MlnL6v
*******
Les Wexner gives feds documents showing alleged Jeffrey Epstein theft

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 03:23 PM (BqBId)

427 One of my wife's hippie friends went vegan. And then she started - get this - not feeling great. Went to the doctor, doctor said, eat some meat you fucking dummy!! She started eating meat again, and voila feels great.

Still a hippie (and with yuuge bewbs) but now a meat eating hippie once again.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:23 PM (FiUMj)

428 Obama said we could "absorb" terrorist attacks. Did Biden just compare illegal immigrants to a terrorist attack?
Posted by: ... at August 12, 2019 03:22 PM (lHIDz)

Good point

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:23 PM (NFEMn)

429
Alex Mallin @alex_mallin
19h
A source familiar with the #Epstein investigations tells @ABC that AG Barr instructed FBI Dep. Director David Bowdich to brief DAG Jeffrey Rosen every three hours on their investigation. Numerous agents were assigned to both the FBI and OIG investigations over the weekend.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 03:23 PM (BqBId)

430 "But he also depended not just on the MSM, but the
cultural factors that allowed people to believe the lie rather than
their own eyes and ears.



Example: Obama is a great orator.

Posted by: Aetius451AD"

That was a an amazing act by millions I still cannot fully comprehend. It required multiple levels of self-deception on a 1984 level repeatedly. . Obama spoke at best like a mid level manager on a good day and usually like an idealistic, uniformed college student. It was painful listening to him trying to sound sincere and inspiring.

Posted by: Ripley at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (MxEKc)

431 https://cnb.cx/2MlnL6v
*******
Les Wexner gives feds documents showing alleged Jeffrey Epstein theft
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and he's been keeping quiet about it all this time because . . .

Posted by: now pull the other one at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (C39L4)

432 Travel around FSU and see what the Soviets built. It will surprise you in its crudity.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:22 PM (2LelM)

I imagine it's about the same quality. I've seen documentaries and youtube travel vlogger videos where they're talking about buildings built in the 80's and you're looking at them like "surely you mean the 1880s... there's no way that buildings only 30 years old!"

But alas, they mean 1980s.

Like I get that concrete is a pretty shitty building material and doesn't have the longevity of steel, but jeez...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (GBteo)

433 Still a hippie (and with yuuge bewbs) but now a meat eating hippie once again.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:23 PM (FiUMj)

Does she wear a flowery, low-cut peasant blouse?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (NFEMn)

434 Sub Saharan Mean IQ is 75. Some countries (Somali) its 68. Mental Retardation bgins at 70 IQ.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (2LelM)

in the District of the Mentally Retarded, the woman with an IQ of 75 goes to Congress.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (Kpl3J)

435 War, political oppression, etc are what asylum is for. Allowing it for other purposes debases the process.
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The whole point of being a subversive is debasement.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (2LelM)

436 First off, I'm dubious of China's claims about educational attainment and average IQ. But even if we give them that -- you don't need an IQ of 107 to assemble a cheap piece of shit plastic dish drying rack or whatever it is.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:17 PM (GBteo)


On one hand, China's claims about China generally speaking have to be taken with a dump truck of salt. Furthermore, the Chinese we get here are selected for intelligence, and so are not representative of the population as a whole (I call this the "Yao effect.")

OTOH, China did develop a flourishing and rich civilization very early, whereas other regions that will go unmentioned never even developed writing, much less math, science, engineering, architecture, literature, philosophy, etc. So I think it's fair to assume that the Chinese are on average fairly bright.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (YqDXo)

437 That just ain't right.
Posted by: Jody at August 12, 2019 03:18 PM (ejd/p)

Thanks for teaching me a new word today via Bing.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (Dh1wo)

438 417 Which is then followed by "well regulated" from a leftist.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker



Tell him to pick up a 18th century dictionary.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2019 03:21 PM (xkaSw)

___

I know that. But it's an easy way for the left to defend their position if your only argument is "shall not be infringed". And once you start debating the finer nuances of 18th century language, you've kinda lost the debate.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (FiUMj)

439 It's no bad enough they suspended Tucker for 2 weeks... His replacement is.... Donna Brazille
Posted by: It's me donna at August 12, 2019 02:54 PM (O2RFr)
**************
Where did you hear Donna Brazille will be his replacement?
Kilmeade said Tucker was taking his son fishing last week.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (wiXsO)

440 Which is then followed by "well regulated" from a leftist.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker



Tell him to pick up a 18th century dictionary.

+++

It doesn't mean the same as it does now. Also tell him to study up on dependent clauses.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (xkaSw)

441 Example: Obama is a great orator.
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Example: Michelle Obama is the most beautiful woman in the country.

Posted by: now pull the other one at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (qQE8l)

442 It's undeniable that it would be less expensive for us to provide welfare for these two million people in areas where labor and food costs are lower, while providing jobs to service workers in that location.

Mongolia is pretty sparsely populated. I'm sure they need people and cash. Let's send them all there with $100 per month for 18 months.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (hr5kG)

443 Screw it.

Close the borders, stop any and all immigration until we get the Country down to 1% unemployment, 0% welfare and all Veterans taken care of.

Hell, make it that the only people that can vote and/or hold office are those that served honorably in the armed services.

Then start opening up immigration but with the caveat that you receive absolutely NO public assistance.

Oh, and declare the DNC a domestic terror organization.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (Oq/TM)

444 But I have a hard time believing we couldn't wipe out Chinas entire navy in a matter of hours, even if their missiles had the ability to destroy every US aircraft carrier currently floating between the US mainland and China.

A land war? Eh, it'd be a shit show, for sure.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:11 PM (GBteo)

The bases are the problem. Most U.S. bases are a fair distance away which means sortie rate and wzrloads are considerably reduced. The other option is to bring the carrier task forces to within a reasonable operation range of Chinese mainland and naval forces. That risks major naval assets.

I think the Chinese navy would be destroyed but the cost might be fairly high, due to their other assets.

If Taiwan gets involved that changes some things but china has over a 1,000 theater range ballistic missiles for airfield attack. Trying to set up U.S. squadrons while under attack would not be easy.

I don't think it would be simple or easy for either side.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (5o8nq)

445
The Chinese are moving into Africa big time. They are purchasing natural resources and governments under the radar, with promises to "build up" infrastructure. That means roads with no or negligible road beds, poorly constructed housing, and a LOT of imported Chinese labor. The native population, especially the young people, are not pleased (as in "angry").
Posted by: mrp


Almost sounds like apartheid. Why is the left not complaining?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (aKsyK)

446 one source said we need a US/India/Russia "alliance/detente" ... not the China friend we made for 30 years. Keeping Russia and China at odds is useful, and right now China is the big threat imo.


A strong Western Hemisphere becoming more "democratic" and free of China/Russia intrusion would be nice as well. And the Islamists are already invading the southern part of our hemisphere, which is bad. But our globalists are pretty intent on flooding us with the third world so they can dominate the globe.


Solutions? ... nuke the next CFR meeting?

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (Cus5s)

447 An acquaintance from Kenya, who is old enough to remember the independence struggles (read "Mau Mau"), told me that she hoped that the brewing resentment against the Chinese didn't result in a similar situation.

Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (Pqytn)

448 I don't believe ANYTHING from China. Not IQ, not GDP numbers, not company financial, nothing. They could tell me the sun sets in the west and I'd be like prove it to me.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 03:26 PM (FiUMj)

449 That was a an amazing act by millions I still cannot
fully comprehend. It required multiple levels of self-deception on a
1984 level repeatedly.


Posted by: Ripley at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (MxEKc)

Or, an utterly complicit media/cultural firewall who screamed RAYCISM!!!!! everytime someone dared utter a notion debating the total awesomeness of the milk-chocolate messiah.

Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 03:26 PM (77WPm)

450 434 Sub Saharan Mean IQ is 75. Some countries (Somali) its 68. Mental Retardation bgins at 70 IQ.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:20 PM (2LelM)

in the District of the Mentally Retarded, the woman with an IQ of 75 goes to Congress.
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The only way dirt becomes magic is IQ and effort. It also helps mightily to have homogeniety and a single faith.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:26 PM (2LelM)

451 Like I get that concrete is a pretty shitty building material and doesn't have the longevity of steel, but jeez...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (GBteo)

This man is non compus mentus

Posted by: The Romans at August 12, 2019 03:26 PM (NFEMn)

452 441 Example: Obama is a great orator.
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Example: Michelle Obama is the most beautiful woman in the country.
Posted by: now pull the other one at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (qQE8l)

Absolutely this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 12, 2019 03:26 PM (ycWCI)

453 I know that. But it's an easy way for the left to defend their position if your only argument is "shall not be infringed". And once you start debating the finer nuances of 18th century language, you've kinda lost the debate.

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Which is why Fuck Off is a better response.

They aren't going to listen to reason, history, word meaning.

Just tell them to fuck off.

Posted by: SH at August 12, 2019 03:26 PM (sX1BW)

454 Re Trump's tweet about the movie "First Man"...

It's NEIL Armstrong, not "Neal". Not a big deal, but should have someone double-checking his tweets to avoid handing the media poo to fling.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 12, 2019 03:26 PM (ySYar)

455 On one hand, China's claims about China generally speaking have to be taken with a dump truck of salt. Furthermore, the Chinese we get here are selected for intelligence, and so are not representative of the population as a whole (I call this the "Yao effect.")

OTOH, China did develop a flourishing and rich civilization very early, whereas other regions that will go unmentioned never even developed writing, much less math, science, engineering, architecture, literature, philosophy, etc. So I think it's fair to assume that the Chinese are on average fairly bright.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (YqDXo)

Every one of your hand does make fair points.

I just get very dubious when hearing about the excellence of China.

...I just don't see it. Personally. But maybe that's my cultural bias as an American speaking.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:27 PM (GBteo)

456
Seriously though, 10 year old buildings with huge gaps in the windows, uneven floors, cracks in the walls. Like -- dude, even 100+ year old buildings in major US cities aren't falling apart this badly. You guys did do the math and hire engineers before you started the foundation work, right? Because buildings arent' supposed to settle this much in 10 years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:21 PM (GBteo)

It's Chinese corporate and government policy to screw over the customer by cutting corners.

Posted by: Someguy at August 12, 2019 03:27 PM (yOykd)

457 I don't know if India is necessarily a better deal for the US economy, or US workers, or whatever. But from a pure geopolitical move... if I were trump, i'd at least pretend to make moves in that direction.

Geopolitically it makes tons of sense. India's also been cozying up to Israel, given both countries have an understanding of being marinated in Islamic terror.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2019 03:28 PM (ZGrMX)

458 448 I don't believe ANYTHING from China. Not IQ, not GDP numbers, not company financial, nothing. They could tell me the sun sets in the west and I'd be like prove it to me.
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The IQ is for real. What is weird is they are not too inventive. People are plastic. They become what their betters want them to become. Same deal in Japan and Korea. Northeast Asia is the other honey hole for high mean IQ. Europe and N. America is the other.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:28 PM (2LelM)

459 Where did you hear Donna Brazille will be his replacement?
Kilmeade said Tucker was taking his son fishing last week.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 12, 2019 03:25 PM (wiXsO)

Tucker's taking Dick Goodstein fishing.
And bringing some Hail Mary's with him...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:28 PM (NFEMn)

460 I think the Chinese navy would be destroyed but the cost might be fairly high, due to their other assets
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One ping only . . .

Posted by: what do they call those things that go underwater at August 12, 2019 03:28 PM (ow4M0)

461 That's a point we need to hammer home. An unspecific fear of crime isn't enough either.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at August 12, 2019 03:21 PM (J+mig)


If I want an unspecific fear of crime I drive through Compton.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:28 PM (YqDXo)

462
They aren't going to listen to reason, history, word meaning.

Just tell them to fuck off.
Posted by: SH at August 12, 2019 03:26 PM (sX1BW)

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My office millennial hampster gurl was on about gun control a while back. I told her we could go back and forth about the practical, moral, and legal problems with her ideas all day, and it wouldn't change anyone's mind.

So I said "Instead of doing that, let's keep it simple. The answer is 'no.' We're not giving you our guns and you can't make us. Carry on."

Posted by: raymondo at August 12, 2019 03:28 PM (AzW6q)

463 Its going to be fun waiting for the quotes from Biden 6 years ago talking about how we have to stop illegal immigration and control refugee populations.

The problem with his argument is that the nation of 330 million has already taken in 2 million refugees and are supporting them. There are limits.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 12, 2019 03:29 PM (KZzsI)

464 Example: Obama is a great orator.
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Example: Michelle Obama is the most beautiful woman in the country.
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Bill Clinton is a brilliant policy wonk.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 12, 2019 03:29 PM (O7MnT)

465 I'm in. Lets build a wall and keep denying refugee status for fleeing gang violence in the home country, and replace those millions of MS-13 and the folks who roll over for them with genuine refugees. *oh and we have to deny refugee status to military age men practicing the fake religion of pieces.

Oh right, the Dems don't want to block the flood of illegals, they just want to add refugees, and they want those *refugees* to be Iphone toting rapefugees of the sort that have wreaked havoc in Sweden and Germany.

Posted by: paleRider is simply irredeemable at August 12, 2019 03:29 PM (eASYU)

466 nood

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 12, 2019 03:30 PM (t6MX/)

467 OTOH, China did develop a flourishing and rich civilization very early, whereas other regions that will go unmentioned never even developed writing, much less math, science, engineering, architecture, literature, philosophy, etc. So I think it's fair to assume that the Chinese are on average fairly bright.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:24 PM (YqDXo

..

All of Asia cheats on standardized tests. Full. Stop.

I do suspect in terms of potential that their potential is relatively high, but their claims are nonsense.

Imagine being a teacher told by the Party to get scores up or else.

I know our own scores are probably now similarly tainted, but Asia takes the cake.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 12, 2019 03:30 PM (hr5kG)

468 OTOH, China did develop a flourishing and rich civilization very early, whereas other regions that will go unmentioned never even developed writing, much less math, science, engineering, architecture, literature, philosophy, etc.

Yeah... 1000 years ago. And like the Greeks, 90% of it they developed and just let go fallow. Invention was a big thing with the Greeks, but not actually doing anything with their inventions. Labor was for slaves, you were closer to the gods by being intellectual, not doing anything useful with your intelligence.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 12, 2019 03:30 PM (KZzsI)

469 >>Every one of your hand does make fair points.

>>I just get very dubious when hearing about the excellence of China.

Spend a couple weeks traveling around China. It doesn't take long to figure out that the China they project to the world is a myth.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 03:30 PM (ZLI7S)

470 Example: Obama is a great orator.
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Example: Michelle Obama is the most beautiful woman in the country.
======
Bill Clinton is a brilliant policy wonk.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 12, 2019 03:29 PM (O7MnT)

Hillary is the most over-qualified woman in the world

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:30 PM (NFEMn)

471 The IQ is for real. What is weird is they are not too inventive. People are plastic. They become what their betters want them to become. Same deal in Japan and Korea.

I've speculated that the conformism evidenced in those places arises at least in part from crowding (especially in Japan). Sticking out from the crowd is dangerous in those circumstances, kind of like doing calisthenics in a crowded elevator. Just stand still, keep your mouth shut, is the natural reaction.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

472 460 I think the Chinese navy would be destroyed but the cost might be fairly high, due to their other assets
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One ping only . . .
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Any naval war will be fought first with submarines against subs. Once China has no subs its turkey shoot time. Remember, the largest anti-submarine navy on the face of the earth is in Japan.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:31 PM (2LelM)

473 If I want an unspecific fear of crime I drive through Compton.

But not for the classic 90s rap record reasons. Mexican gangs have largely replaced the black ones in and around Compton and Inglewood.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2019 03:31 PM (ZGrMX)

474 470 Example: Obama is a great orator.
======
Example: Michelle Obama is the most beautiful woman in the country.
======
Bill Clinton is a brilliant policy wonk.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 12, 2019 03:29 PM (O7MnT)

Hillary is the most over-qualified woman in the world
Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 03:30 PM (NFEMn)


Obama is the most brilliant man ever in the White House. The most brilliant man in the country.

Uh ... no. Perhaps not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:31 PM (YqDXo)

475 So if a Kenyan offers you Chinese Mau Mau, you shouldn't eat it??

Posted by: andycanuck at August 12, 2019 03:32 PM (Dh1wo)

476 But not for the classic 90s rap record reasons. Mexican gangs have largely replaced the black ones in and around Compton and Inglewood.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2019 03:31 PM (ZGrMX)


True, but then the Mexican gangs are no day at the beach either.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:32 PM (YqDXo)

477 nood open thread

Posted by: andycanuck at August 12, 2019 03:33 PM (Dh1wo)

478 If Biden elected.....Sometime during 1st term, White House need to be moved to Assisted Living Facility.

Posted by: MR. KIM at August 12, 2019 03:33 PM (lMn1U)

479
>>I just get very dubious when hearing about the excellence of China.

Spend a couple weeks traveling around China. It doesn't take long to figure out that the China they project to the world is a myth.

Posted by: JackStraw
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So, how long have you been in the paid employ of the Central Intelligence Agency?

Posted by: English Barrister with a sneer at August 12, 2019 03:33 PM (CkK2Y)

480 Spend a couple weeks traveling around China. It doesn't take long to figure out that the China they project to the world is a myth.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 03:30 PM (ZLI7S)

I have. And I agree.

Well, traveling is an exaggeration. I've been there for work and for a residency through my masters program.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 12, 2019 03:33 PM (GBteo)

481 >>I just get very dubious when hearing about the excellence of China.

Spend a couple weeks traveling around China. It doesn't take long to figure out that the China they project to the world is a myth.


Same with the USSR. I was shocked at how down at heel the whole country was. It was basically Mexico with a space program and nuclear weapons bolted on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 03:34 PM (YqDXo)

482 Yeah... 1000 years ago. And like the Greeks, 90% of it they developed and just let go fallow. Invention was a big thing with the Greeks, but not actually doing anything with their inventions. Labor was for slaves, you were closer to the gods by being intellectual, not doing anything useful with your intelligence.
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I think you mean the Romans. The Greeks pissed themselves away fightin amongst themselves. The Romans, who loved everything Greek, were forced to invade and rule them cuz of their constant internecine wars. The Romans did have technology, but what good is technology in a society made up of 80-85% slaves and serfs? Interestingly, there is an artifact of a working steam engine recovered. It was designed as a toy for amusement at dinner parties.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 12, 2019 03:35 PM (2LelM)

483 468 OTOH, China did develop a flourishing and rich civilization very early, whereas other regions that will go unmentioned never even developed writing, much less math, science, engineering, architecture, literature, philosophy, etc.

Yeah... 1000 years ago. And like the Greeks, 90% of it they developed and just let go fallow. Invention was a big thing with the Greeks, but not actually doing anything with their inventions. Labor was for slaves, you were closer to the gods by being intellectual, not doing anything useful with your intelligence.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 12, 2019 03:30 PM (KZzsI)

Well over a thousand years ago for the Chinese. The Chinese are not traditionally averse to labor excepting being a merchant(which they did anyways).

US innovation dwarfs European innovation. Mostly because of our patent system.

Posted by: Someguy at August 12, 2019 03:36 PM (yOykd)

484 I just get very dubious when hearing about the excellence of China.

Spend a couple weeks traveling around China. It doesn't take long to figure out that the China they project to the world is a myth.

Same with the USSR. I was shocked at how down at heel the whole country was. It was basically Mexico with a space program and nuclear weapons bolted on.
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well they have a class system but there's no middle class. You are upper class or no class.

Posted by: gangham style at August 12, 2019 03:36 PM (CkK2Y)

485 well they have a class system but there's no middle class. You are upper class or no class.

Which is reflected in the weird-to-Americans fact that Chinese who can afford a car now always also hire a chauffeur, even if it's a Camry or something.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2019 03:42 PM (ZGrMX)

486 you know, I'd swear that back in the 1970s we were being told that America was already over-populated.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 12, 2019 03:45 PM (ZqRa6)

487 Jumped to the bottom, so apologies if I'm repeating someone else's post. So hard to express how much this pisses me off. Here is a politician planning on stealing my money to pay for his generosity. "It's not your F*CKING Money A$$HOL!"

Posted by: IanDeal at August 12, 2019 03:46 PM (vgGyZ)

488 Ah, so there are only 2 million deserving immigrants / refugees out there ?

Gosh, I'm about 100% sure that using this kind of defining their need as "people, who are in desperate need and who are justifiably weak, and fleeing depression", that number is certainly closer to 2 BILLION, not 2 million.

I'm sorry, the US CANNOT solve the world's problems, least of all be allowing a negligible percentage of the world's poor a place to come and live off Uncle Sugar's TIT.

Posted by: deadrody at August 12, 2019 04:09 PM (V9901)

489 Another cup of JOE and I run Venezuela................

..... FOR LIFE.... No JOES ALLOWED

Posted by: saf at August 12, 2019 04:25 PM (5IHGB)

490 I'm sure Joe really meant Emmigrants from Maryland..".get off my lawn"......................after you cut it!

Truth beats Facts dontcha know,I learned that from a well spoken Negro I worked for, Moochelle,her hubby was a real DICK.

Posted by: saf at August 12, 2019 04:35 PM (5IHGB)

491 When I see tent cities going up on Rodeo Drive and in the Hamptons, we can talk.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 12, 2019 04:41 PM (o0hTC)

492 ADSORB 2 Million yeah the Swamp is all quicksandy like.

Where do you find these geniuses? Harvard? Sorry redundant.

Posted by: saf at August 12, 2019 04:43 PM (5IHGB)

493 All right Joe you take them all home to live with you Hows that sound?

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 12, 2019 04:51 PM (wGqjj)

494 The idea that a country of 330 million cannot afford people, who are in desperate need and who are justifiably weak, and fleeing depression is absolutely bizarre," Biden said.

Awww, they're "fleeing depression". Boo. Fucking. Hoo.

We have had depressions here in the United States as well. Did Americans flee to other countries and demand they be let in and given handouts?

Fuck no.

Americans pulled up their bootstraps and weathered the depression and worked to make America the greatest fucking country in the world again.

When is ANYONE in this country --- politician, journalist, "celebrity" --- going to say what needs to be said to these people:

Stay home and fix your own gawddamned countries!!!

THAT is what is "absolutely bizarre". That every Democrat, Leftist, journalist and "celebrity" in America wants every fucking poor person in the world to be let in to America. Why does NO ONE ever say "why don't we help them make their countries as good as the USA"?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 12, 2019 05:39 PM (7A4qQ)

495 So we are running a trillion dollar annual budget deficit but we can easily absorb millions of destitute teat-suckers?

Posted by: Clean Willie at August 12, 2019 08:11 PM (TwCsL)

496 We're gonna need a new bug light.

Posted by: Ty "Wranglin'" Kid at August 12, 2019 09:38 PM (Yx5yC)

497 We don't need a lot of things, but it isn't at all bizarre that we avoid losing those things. We can survive a bunch of things, but it isn't bizarre we avoid gaining those things. Humans don't go out of their way to obtain things they don't want, they also don't go out of their way to lose things they like. If we're talking about bizarre, it is the democrat's obsession with doing the opposite of what is normal.

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