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Ace dropped by this morning with a post on Epstein's death, below. Unless it overflows, you might want to leave your Epstein comments there.

Have something in mind other than gardening or puttering around the house, or pets? This is the place for it. I think it is remarkable that Elizabeth Warren wants to re-litigate the Michael Brown case. I had some topics in mind for thoughtful discussion, but I am not feeling particularly contemplative right now.

Hope you can find some time for normal life this weekend.

Here is a tango.

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1 Jim McDougal's autopsy needs to be compared with Epstein's.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (BmSkj)

2 Hola

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (kQs4Y)

3 First?

Posted by: lin-duh at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (yT7Mu)

4 Did somebody die?///

Posted by: lin-duh at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (yT7Mu)

5 And you know what we won't be talking about again? Epstein and the pedos in power. He's been rubbed out and the case closed, all gone. No justice for all those children who were raped and abused and used for the sick joy of scum in power. No hope that they will see the people who used them will face justice in this life. No hope that we'll see the evil caught and punished publicly. No justice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (KZzsI)

6 Jeff Goldblum?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (BmSkj)

7 Remember, if you quietly give up your guns, the government will protect you.

...Is this a bad time?

Posted by: The Dept. of Justice-Prevention at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (Ndje9)

8 That whole Ping Pong Pizza conspiracy was just so not believable, you guys.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (BmSkj)

9 6 Jeff Goldblum?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (BmSkj)

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Brian Epstein. They called him the "Fifth Beatle."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (amw5z)

10 Willowed

I'm not defending Epstein but I think the Jane Doe that is making allegations is exagerrating for effect. It's not believable to me that Alan Dershowitz participated in sex with her multiple times.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 11:22 AM (2DOZq)

11 I'd say we are at DEF CUCK 3.
At this level of CUCKNESS, cucks take to twatter to denounce all conservatives as stupid or other derogatory names to promote a leftist point of view. No longer do the cucks tweet about sandwiches or hotdogs much less their pets.

DEF CUCK 3 is when cucks take other cucks talking points and retweet them with late night talk show hosts barbed points. Level of smugness is at 8 and tweets are reaching over 500 milliKohns.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 10, 2019 11:22 AM (pw+jk)

12 Leftism is quite adapt at changing the conversation

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:22 AM (BbGew)

13 Cigars for everyone!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 10, 2019 11:23 AM (amw5z)

14 Has Hillary finished writing the suicide note yet!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (BmSkj)

15 Bill Clinton might be the happiest man today

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (BbGew)

16 Yeah, I think yesterday was the 5th anniversary of Michael Brown's strong arm robbery of a convenience store in Ferguson, Mo.

Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (ykq7q)

17 Hey little girl. Do you have a little democrat politician in you? Want some?

Posted by: BJ Clinton at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (pw+jk)

18 Hey little girl. Do you have a little democrat politician in you? Want some?

"No, don't look around. Tkere's no one to help you. The law doesn't care. I'm never going to pay for what I do, you have no hope."
--Bill Klin-Ton

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 11:26 AM (KZzsI)

19 https://t.co/9xufUqkCyT

A new survey has found that Native Americans are more likely to be proud than offended by the name of the Washington Redskins.

The survey, as reported by the Washington Post, asked 500 people who identify as Native American to pick from a list of words which one best described their feelings about the Redskins name. The word most picked was "proud."

Following "proud" came "indifferent," "annoyed," "content," "satisfied" and "disappointed."

The Washington Post did not publish the full results of the survey, so we do not know what percentage of respondents offered each response, but regarding the word "proud," the Washington Post reports that "most of the survey's respondents felt that way."

Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 11:27 AM (jY1B4)

20
Poor, poor sweet St. Swisher! Who knows what magnificent accomplishments were aborted when the cop ventilated him?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 11:28 AM (dPMBY)

21 Tulsi Gabbard strikes me as sane.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 10, 2019 11:29 AM (jh17W)

22 Here is a surprise- representative Al Green is all for Red Flag laws
So my suggestion is run away fast.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (BbGew)

23 Has Hillary finished writing the suicide note yet!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (BmSkj)



Like that scene from Analyze This. I couldn't take it no more. Signed, The Dead Guy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (+vi/F)

24 The survey asked 500 people who identify as Native American.....


Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 11:27 AM (jY1B4)

How many "identified"....like Lizzy Warren?

Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (ykq7q)

25 When they found Epstein unconscious in his cell a doctor was supposedly called. He found that he had been shot 2 times in the back, stabbed 2 times, had strangulation marks on his neck, and ligature marks on his wrists. The doctor commented "this is the worst case of attempted suicide I have ever seen".

Posted by: Patriot 349 at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (9Z5z0)

26 Seth Rich Dead
Ron Brown Dead
Vincent Foster Dead
and now...Epstein Dead.
Amazing how everyone that is about to cause trouble for the Clinton died.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (WdocV)

27 You'll get in trouble if you pollute the gardening thread with politics.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (mpXpK)

28 21 Tulsi Gabbard strikes me as sane.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 10, 2019 11:29 AM (jh17W)


I met some of her followers in Iowa last week.

They had those vacant eyes with superficially-friendly smiles.

Posted by: Emmie at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (i/wJA)

29 At the Iowa State Fair. A bunch of the Dim candidates are here today. Kameltoe is talking right now. Blah, blah, blah. Talking about her mother.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at August 10, 2019 11:33 AM (/7BRy)

30 16
Yeah, I think yesterday was the 5th anniversary of Michael Brown's strong arm robbery of a convenience store in Ferguson, Mo.

Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (ykq7q)


And the MFM was entirely responsible for the Ferguson riots.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 11:34 AM (mpXpK)

31 I was perusing a lefties' Twitter feed last week and noticed just what this meme expresses. His feed read like a TV Guide of "What Lefties Should be Outraged About This Week." He would switch from one topic to the next seamlessly - and then never again mention any previous topics.

Whatever the MSM or whomever told him to be pissed off about that week was the MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!!!! and was going to RUIN THE COUNTRY!! and PROVE TRUMP IS EVIL!!! or whatever.

It didn't take too long to realize that this guy was just a sheep - and he really liked being a sheep. He was a member of a mob, that he felt really powerful being a member of that mob & was devoted to it body and soul - no matter what that mob happened to believe at the time.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 10, 2019 11:34 AM (BJKQV)

32 When they found Epstein unconscious in his cell a
doctor was supposedly called. He found that he had been shot 2 times in
the back, stabbed 2 times, had strangulation marks on his neck, and
ligature marks on his wrists. The doctor commented "this is the worst
case of attempted suicide I have ever seen".

Posted by: Patriot 349 at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (9Z5z0)


Slick Willie: He took cyanide too....or so I've heard

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:34 AM (+vi/F)

33 Elizabeth Warren and Kamaltoe Harris both tweeted yesterday that Michael Brown was "murdered" in Ferguson 5 years ago, and that his death was the result of "systemic racism" in the justice system.

For anybody who doesn't recall, Michael Brown was the huge druggie who robbed a convenience store, assaulted the little store clerk, then was confronted by a lone cop while he was walking away from the scene of his crime. Brown slugged the cop, tried to take his gun (resulting in the gun discharging inside the car during the struggle), and then ran off a short distance. The cop shouted at Brown to stop, repeatedly, but Brown instead turned and charged back towards the much smaller cop, who then shot Brown in self defense. Lots of liars later claimed that Brown was on his knees, with his hands up, when the cop shot him. Other liars claimed he was shot in the back. The forensic and other evidence proved those accounts to be completely false.

After blacks rioted and the country was subjected to months of typical MSM racist propaganda where they incessantly repeated the lies as if they were true, the rabid SJW's in Obama's DOJ spent many months investigating the shooting, trying desperately to find some wrongdoing by the white cop that they could use to justify pressing federal charges against him. Instead, they ended up having to admit that the killing was justifiable self-defense by the cop.

And yet those racial "uniters" Warren and Kamaltoe continue to peddle the same blatant, repeatedly-debunked lies about Brown's death, in an attempt to stir up more racial hatred.

But yeah, it's Trump who's the problem.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 10, 2019 11:35 AM (k4dH2)

34

Tulsi Gabbard is a post term aborting gun banning illegal coddling breaker of oaths and if that's your definition of sane, I'd like to set you up with my ex.

She looks like a sane safe upper middle class white bis, and therefore is dangerous, because she is actually a full blown progtard commie...

Posted by: Door to Door Nothing Salesman at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (w3OLr)

35 China News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJYf_ehIpRY

I thought he was saying Lenin Wall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennon_Wall

Wiki article now has a Hong Kong section. Original was Czech.




Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (vWMNq)

36 Hola
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Cola

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (arJlL)

37 Yesterday was the anniversary of the Hands up, Don't shoot lie.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (BbGew)

38 Of course Liz Warren wants to re-litigate the Micheal Brown case. Trying to agitate minority voters prior to an election is standard Dem campaigning procedure (see Zimmerman, George, who had already been determined to have acted in self-defense).

Posted by: Emmie at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (i/wJA)

39 22
Here is a surprise- representative Al Green is all for Red Flag laws

So my suggestion is run away fast.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (BbGew)

Every Democomie in the US is calling for illegal Red Flag laws. They expect the will be able to call the cops on all Republicans even if they have no guns.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (mpXpK)

40 Kameltoe: Trump is spreading hate and division and THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE. Wow, that's an original thought.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at August 10, 2019 11:37 AM (/7BRy)

41 So Epstein, who has dirt on powerful people goes to jail and gets murdered.

Right after Whitey Bulger who has dirt on powerful people goes to jail and gets murdered.

Wow. I'm sure both of these are just coincidences!

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:37 AM (WdocV)

42 Yeah, I think yesterday was the 5th anniversary of Michael Brown's strong arm robbery of a convenience store in Ferguson, Mo.

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A self-employed black man African American tries to get ahead and what does he get?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 10, 2019 11:39 AM (+y/Ru)

43 32 When they found Epstein unconscious in his cell a
doctor was supposedly called. He found that he had been shot 2 times in
the back, stabbed 2 times, had strangulation marks on his neck, and
ligature marks on his wrists. The doctor commented "this is the worst
case of attempted suicide I have ever seen".

Posted by: Patriot 349 at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (9Z5z0)

Heh. Reminds me of an old April Fool's issue of "Dragon Magazine." Something about a super-high level assassin and his victim found to have been tied to a chair and thrown out of a windows five or six times - it was ruled a suicide.

Dang. Now I have to find that issue.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 10, 2019 11:39 AM (BJKQV)

44
Tulsi Gabbard is a post term aborting gun banning illegal coddling
breaker of oaths and if that's your definition of sane, I'd like to set
you up with my ex.
***

Yes, but this just shows how far the left has gone.

In 1992 Tulsi would be running as a member of the CPUSA.


And now she is the "moderate" Democrat.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:39 AM (WdocV)

45 So Epstein, who has dirt on powerful people goes to jail and gets murdered.

Right after Whitey Bulger who has dirt on powerful people goes to jail and gets murdered.

Wow. I'm sure both of these are just coincidences!


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:37 AM (WdocV)


Bobby "Boy Scout" Mewler: That's outside of my purview.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:39 AM (+vi/F)

46
Pope Francis again warns against nationalism, says recent speeches sound like "Hitler in 1934"


And, being Argentinian himself and with that state being a notorious go to location for followers of old Adolph, Frankie was able to pick up a complete set of recordings of those speeches for a song at local yard sales. Uses them to help go to sleep, he does.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 11:39 AM (dPMBY)

47 36 Hola
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Cola
Posted by: JT at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (arJlL)

Lola

Posted by: The Kinks at August 10, 2019 11:40 AM (7HtZB)

48 Thinking that government and democrats will use red flag laws to take guns is just another ignorant, no stupid conspiracy theory.

Posted by: David French at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (pw+jk)

49 Jeffrey Epstein on suicide watch after he’s found with ...
https://nypost.com
/2019/07/25/jeffrey-epstein-
on-suicide-watch-after-hes-found-with...

Jul 25, 2019 · Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has been placed on suicide watch after being found sprawled out and injured in his federal jail cell, law enforcement sources said Thursday.

Author: Larry Celona

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (Hg4NE)

50 sorry, wrong thread

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (Hg4NE)

51 Kameltoe: "we need to pay teachers more". And more gun control.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (/7BRy)

52
Ayatollah of Rock 'n' Rolla

Posted by: Door to Door Nothing Salesman at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (w3OLr)

53 If Trump wanted to really troll the left he would push a law calling for the search, and collection, of weapons from every member of anti-fa and every member of any environmental group left of the sierra club.

"After the mass murders by radical leftists and radical environmentalists it is time to remove weapons from the domestic terrorist organizations in the US".


And just watch lefty heads explode as they try to deny the real nature of both mass murderers.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (WdocV)

54 Niedermeyer! Dead!

Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (RuIsu)

55 There are two articles today at American Thinker about the Red Flag laws, how miss use will be probable.
Anything Leftists are for as I said run away fast.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (BbGew)

56
47 36 Hola
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Cola
Posted by: JT at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (arJlL)

Lola
Posted by: The Kinks at August 10, 2019 11:40 AM (7HtZB)


Ebola. Soon.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (dPMBY)

57 47 36 Hola

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes



Cola

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (arJlL)



Lola

Posted by: The Kinks at August 10, 2019 11:40 AM (7HtZB)



Ebola. Soon.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (dPMBY)

====
Yo soy culo.

Posted by: David French at August 10, 2019 11:43 AM (pw+jk)

58 Pope Francis again warns against nationalism, says recent speeches sound like "Hitler in 1934"

***

Anyone ask the Red "Pope" if this is a more immediate danger then the pedophiles he is protecting in the Church hierarchy?



Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:43 AM (WdocV)

59 Two more Leftust mass murders and the answer is take away firearms from conservatives.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:44 AM (BbGew)

60 How will we know if the Epstein thread overflows?

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 11:45 AM (sdi6R)

61 Of course Liz Warren wants to re-litigate the Micheal Brown case.
Trying to agitate minority voters prior to an election is standard Dem
campaigning procedure (see Zimmerman, George, who had already been
determined to have acted in self-defense).

--

Yep. My gawd, these people are so predictable and obvious. It's a wonder, a marvel really, that people fall for it and don't see through it for what it is. But they don't.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 10, 2019 11:45 AM (JoUsr)

62 Hola
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Cola
Posted by: JT at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (arJlL)

Lola
Posted by: The Kinks

Victrola

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2019 11:46 AM (arJlL)

63 How will we know if the Epstein thread overflows?

--

Someone comes in here with a plunger?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 10, 2019 11:46 AM (JoUsr)

64 Read ao CNBC article on Epstein, and Trump was mentioned over and over. Not one mention of Clinton.

See my shocked face

Posted by: Abby at August 10, 2019 11:46 AM (txtGE)

65 This is the second high profile scum bag to go to jail with evidence to implicate the rich and powerful and the second murdered.

WTF

The Clintons really are the "luckiest" f*ckers around aren't they?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:47 AM (WdocV)

66 "Trending" on twatter, #trumpbodycount. No, seriously.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 10, 2019 11:48 AM (JoUsr)

67 Oh and speaking of the Red Pope anyone ask him if the people claiming Epstein, Clinton and co sexually assaulted them were also Satanists?


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:48 AM (WdocV)

68 I think today is the day that the Arkancide theory went mainstream. Even people who up till now thought it was all Alex Jones nonsense are like, "Dude, suicide? Seriously?"

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 11:48 AM (sdi6R)

69 Ace dropped by this morning with a post on Epstein's death, below.
Unless it overflows, you might want to leave your Epstein comments
there.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (wYseH)

70 Read ao CNBC article on Epstein, and Trump was mentioned over and over. Not one mention of Clinton.

--

F'ing dishonest, deceitful scumbags. They must be reduced to rubble.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (JoUsr)

71 Yeah, I think yesterday was the 5th anniversary of Michael Brown's strong arm robbery of a convenience store in Ferguson, Mo.
===============
Squaw Lying Eagle called it murder. She said Michael Brown was murdered. That should be criminal. that case was tried effectively 3 times. Michael Brown, 6'5", 260 lbs, went after the officer's gun, and almost got it. Then he got what he deserved.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (ty7RM)

72 Of course, the Mets have one of the most exciting come back wins of the season and Epstein mysteriously dies and steals all of their headlines.

I blame Big Baseball.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (ZLI7S)

73 https://pbs.tw___.com/media/EBnbTV5WkAUSq8-?format=jpgname=small

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (WdocV)

74 gah stupid minx

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:50 AM (WdocV)

75 Wow. I'm sure both of these are just coincidences!

"I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about"
--Robert Mueller

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 11:50 AM (KZzsI)

76 I so thoroughly despise this Pope.

Posted by: Charles Martell at August 10, 2019 11:50 AM (pD0pA)

77 64 See my shocked face


Daily-mail had an article a couple of days ago quoting the witness who's been spilling (the fat one in Australia) that "neither Trump nor Clinton" were involved with the girls. How would she know? She can only know if they *were* involved. Very convenient.

So Epstein's death is not a surprise.


Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 11:50 AM (vWMNq)

78 Meme of the moment

https://tinyurl.com/y47uw8eq

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:51 AM (WdocV)

79 69 Unless it overflows, you might want to leave your Epstein comments

there.


Oops. Misread that, sorry.

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 11:52 AM (vWMNq)

80 Oops. Misread that, sorry.

Well, on the other hand you might not want to

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 11:52 AM (KZzsI)

81 love tango...loved dancing it too, in my younger days.

Posted by: IC at August 10, 2019 11:53 AM (XQ5Y8)

82 Away out here they got a name
For wind and rain and fire
The rain is Tess, the fire's Joe,
And they call Kamala a liar

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 10, 2019 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)

83 I just want to know what, exactly, suicide watch consists of? Cameras to see how its done?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 11:53 AM (KZzsI)

84 69 Ace dropped by this morning with a post on Epstein's death, below.
Unless it overflows, you might want to leave your Epstein comments
there.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (wYseH)


1. But it says "open thread" at the top.

B. How will we know if the Epstein thread overflows?

III. Corgis gonna corgi.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 11:54 AM (sdi6R)

85 58
Pope Francis again warns against nationalism, says recent speeches sound like "Hitler in 1934"


Funnily enough to me, it seems that there are a lot more speeches that sound like Lenin in 1917 and the newspapers all resemble Pravda.

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 11:54 AM (vWMNq)

86 Did they confirm hanging?

I figure that Epstein paid someone who he never met or otherwise had contact with and who hates him smuggle poison to him in his food, and not tell him when, so it would be a surprise.

Easiest way to kill when the cameras are rolling 24/7.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019 11:55 AM (/Fmtj)

87 BREAKING... The Bureau of Printing and Engraving announced that the new edition of the US Criminal Code would be ready by December. However, the US Code for Clintons and Illegal Aliens will be ready next week, as there are many fewer laws and most are considered "helpful suggestions" anyway. Developing...

Posted by: Manufactured News Network: "See What We Did There?" at August 10, 2019 11:55 AM (Ndje9)

88 It's a wonder, a marvel really, that people fall for it and don't see through it for what it is. But they don't.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 10, 2019 11:45 AM (JoUsr)


And they get mad at you if you try to help them see.

Posted by: Emmie at August 10, 2019 11:55 AM (i/wJA)

89 love tango...loved dancing it too, in my younger days.
Posted by: IC


(psssssst.......)

You're IN your younger days !








9pssssst....

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2019 11:56 AM (arJlL)

90 Read ao CNBC article on Epstein, and Trump was mentioned over and over. Not one mention of Clinton.



See my shocked face

Posted by: Abby at August 10, 2019 11:46 AM (txtGE)


The Bloomberg financial "news" network makes CNBC look non-biased.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:56 AM (+vi/F)

91 Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:43 AM (WdocV)

They're not "only" pedophiles. Numerous clergy sexually molested their colleagues. McCarrick did One fellow came to talk to a priest about a vocation and the priest plied him with liquor and attacked him. "Church Militant" website has the stories.

And yes, I know that their are very fine priests who live up to their vows.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 11:56 AM (+0VWg)

92 58 Pope Francis again warns against nationalism, says recent speeches sound like "Hitler in 1934"

This pope's recent speeches sound a lot like Rodrigo Borgia in 1500.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2019 11:56 AM (k1TUh)

93 I just want to know what, exactly, suicide watch consists of? Cameras to see how its done?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 11:53 AM (KZzsI)

--

I have no personal experience, but I read recently about special clothing that prisoners who have hurt themselves have to wear. It's very thick/stiff and makes it extremely difficult to move the arms and legs (and move in general IIRC).

I'm on the fence re: Deep State flexing and doing it in the open because f*ck y'all, that's why, or a witness protection setup.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:56 AM (A8W5E)

94 Nice tango video. The follows have some nice legs.

This is one of my favorite tango videos.

https://youtu.be/7hx_zwg5Ebg

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 10, 2019 11:56 AM (SgjGX)

95 The leftards on Twatter are trying to gin up #trumpbodycount.
These fuckers are disgusting.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:57 AM (ty7RM)

96 I just want to know what, exactly, suicide watch consists of? Cameras to see how its done?
___


Well see, we move the person to a special cell, away from the other prisoners.

And we remove anything in the cell that could be used in any way as a weapon. Don't want the prisoner hurting their visitors, err, themselves.


And we remove all the cameras.

And we only assign "specially trained" guards.

Oh, and we don't record the names of visitors.

Posted by: Clinton's Prison guard friend at August 10, 2019 11:57 AM (WdocV)

97 just getting here, but ... why would it be difficult for anyone to believe that epstein offed himself? He was looking at likely years of trials, all kinds of embarrassing revelations, and probably the rest of his life in jail.

To go from flying around on your private jet, hanging out at a private island, banging chicks all the time to the prospect of the rest of your life in jail after a humiliating trial...?

I mean, it makes sense to me.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 11:58 AM (GBteo)

98 They're not "only" pedophiles. Numerous clergy sexually molested their colleagues. McCarrick did One fellow came to talk to a priest about a vocation and the priest plied him with liquor and attacked him. "Church Militant" website has the stories.

There's a theory that the Roman Catholic Church was infested with homosexuals who liked the idea of easy access to troubled young men and boys and little consequence to doing so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 11:58 AM (KZzsI)

99 Ha.

"I just want to know what, exactly, suicide watch consists of?"

--

How much ya got?

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:59 AM (A8W5E)

100 Epstein will soon be described in the MSM as a big Republican donor and Trump best friend.

Up is down
Black is white

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 11:59 AM (2DOZq)

101
Elizabeth Warren and Kamaltoe Harris both tweeted yesterday that Michael Brown was "murdered" in Ferguson 5 years ago, and that his death was the result of "systemic racism" in the justice system.

...environmental racism, economic racism, criminal justice racism, health care racism.

Blah blah blah

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 11:59 AM (aKsyK)

102 also, why is the media referring to Epstein as a "convicted pedophile?"

I'm pretty sure he was only convicted of soliciting a prostitute, which is why people were so outraged.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:00 PM (GBteo)

103 why would it be difficult for anyone to believe that epstein offed himself? He was looking at likely years of trials, all kinds of embarrassing revelations, and probably the rest of his life in jail.

And conversely, why would it be difficult for anyone to beleive that Epstein was murdered because his testimony and trial would be damaging to hundreds of the most powerful and wealthy people in America?

He was in prison being carefully protected from committing suicide yet somehow managed to pull it off anyway conveniently making the case disappear. I mean, one person who is harmful to the Clintons dying suspiciously you can write off. A few you can call coincidence. But after a while...

I mean, its the perfect crime. Anyone who calls foul is considered a conspiratorial nutcase, and nobody wants to believe we have people in power who'd do that. Nobody wants to think about it. And the people in power have so many connections they'll never face justice in this life. WHY NOT do it?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:01 PM (KZzsI)

104 I'm pretty sure he was only convicted of soliciting a prostitute, which is why people were so outraged.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:00 PM (GBteo)

He had to register as a sex offender IIRC.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 12:01 PM (2DOZq)

105 Squaw Lying Eagle called it murder.

-
Tomahawk Lizzie speaks with forked tongue.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 10, 2019 12:02 PM (+y/Ru)

106 98 There's a theory that the Roman Catholic Church was infested with homosexuals


It's pretty well documented and not just homosexuals but communists as well. Since the 1920s. A former communist (woman) wrote a book about it in the late 40s.

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 12:02 PM (vWMNq)

107 The leftards on Twatter are trying to gin up #trumpbodycount.

These fuckers are disgusting.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:57 AM (ty7RM)


The Clinton's association with him will be memory holed and the left with create a whole new narrative that he was Trump's best friend.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 12:02 PM (+vi/F)

108 >> also, why is the media referring to Epstein as a "convicted pedophile?"

>>I'm pretty sure he was only convicted of soliciting a prostitute, which is why people were so outraged.

He plead guilty to a state charge of soliciting sex with a 14 year old girl which required him to register as a sex offender.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)

109 Every organization that has easy access to prey will be infiltrated by perverted predators. Everyone of them.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 12:04 PM (2DOZq)

110 The leftards on Twatter are trying to gin up #trumpbodycount.

Its not working on my Twitter feed at least. #ClintonBodyCount is, though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:04 PM (KZzsI)

111 Leftists are really pissing me off with this white nationalist crap

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 12:04 PM (BbGew)

112 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 11:58 AM (KZzsI)


"Church Militant" addresses this directly.-that they moved up gay priests from other countries and then did nothing when they attacked parishioners or fellow clergy or people training for the priesthood..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 12:04 PM (+0VWg)

113 "29 At the Iowa State Fair. A bunch of the Dim candidates are here today. Kameltoe is talking right now. Blah, blah, blah. Talking about her mother."
*********
Iowa is ahead 5-1 in the second inning right now over Minnesota in the little league mid west regional final. More Iowans are probably watching that then the dimwit candidates.

Posted by: Cosda at August 10, 2019 12:04 PM (zHGdq)

114 just getting here, but ... why would it be difficult for anyone to believe that epstein offed himself?

***

Because the people running the prison seem to have done nothing to stop him from being killed/committing suicide.


If you have a key witness who supposedly already tried to kill himself wouldn't you have processes in place to make sure he couldn't kill himself?

There are three possibilities
1) The prison officials are criminally incompetent - they did everything they thought they needed to do to keep the witness safe and just failed.


2) Epstein wanted to commit suicide and someone in the prison wanted Epstein to commit suicide as well and allowed/help him to do so.


3) Epstein didn't want to die and was murdered by or with the help of prison officials.


#1 is not believable after Epstein already supposedly tried to kill himself. He's a pedophile and businessman, not a spy, and more to the point if #1 is right someone will be arrested this weekend for criminal negligence.


If that doesn't happen it is #2 or #3.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:05 PM (WdocV)

115 He plead guilty to a state charge of soliciting sex with a 14 year old girl which required him to register as a sex offender.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)

Yeah, that's far from synonymous with "convicted pedophile." I'd be wary of using that term were I the media.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:05 PM (GBteo)

116 112 they moved up gay priests from other countries


Should be "counties", I think.

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 12:05 PM (vWMNq)

117 Squaw Lying Eagle called it murder. She said Michael
Brown was murdered. That should be criminal. that case was tried
effectively 3 times. Michael Brown, 6'5", 260 lbs, went after the
officer's gun, and almost got it. Then he got what he deserved.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (ty7RM)


They are trying to excite their base with their race baiting bullshit. I really hope Squaw Liz gets the nomination even the office RINOs and NeverTrumpers can't stand her. They love them some Joey Biden but can't really stand the rest of the Dem field. Of course that might all change in the general

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 12:05 PM (+vi/F)

118 Tulsi Gabbard for prez and Marianne Williamson for VP.
The Juicy Fruit twins.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:06 PM (Hg4NE)

119

Update:

Jeffrey Epstein Still On Suicide Watch, Prison Officials Say. A source inside the prison says Epstein hasn't moved a muscle in several hours and seems to be calm.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 12:06 PM (Ax1aR)

120 95 The leftards on Twatter are trying to gin up #trumpbodycount.
These fuckers are disgusting.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:57 AM (ty7RM)


I think "pathetic" is a better description.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 12:06 PM (sdi6R)

121 From the Epstein thread:

185 83
And the Baby Boomers mourn another member of their generation.



Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (DY3v



oh for the love of pete


Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:26 AM (lwiT4)

Evidently you are tired of hearing this "baby boomer" shit. I know I am. Most baby boomers served honorably in Vietnam or over in Germany. I am a Nam vet and a baby boomer. How many in the current generation can claim to be a war vet. Personally I think the so-called "greatest generation" was the worst. They elected FDR 4 times.
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (mpXpK


I am sick into death of that idiocy. No one, anywhere, EVER did anything wrong in the whole history of the world, before the so-called "boomers."

Shows the ignorance, stupidity, small-mindedness and flaccid soul of the speaker.

I did not write what I "really feel" about people who spout that nonsense. I already have enough to confess this evening after Vespers.

Now DH and I are at beautiful State Park. We are putting away our handheld computing devices and will enjoy the rest of our day.

Have a wonderful day, Horde. To the soulless, assinine ... Get lost.

Posted by: Flyover, on my handheld computing device at August 10, 2019 12:06 PM (wfWN5)

122 It is not impossible that Epstein did kill himself out of self loathing and despondence, but the only way that should have been possible is if the guards let him do it or even helped him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (KZzsI)

123 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 11:59 AM (aKsyK)

They're all trying to cobble together their various aggrieved groups to beat the people who voted for Trump.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (+0VWg)

124 'Suicide Watch' means something different when the baleful eye of the Clintons has fallen on you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (xSo9G)

125 There's a theory that the Roman Catholic Church was infested with homosexuals
***

Theory, much like the theory of gravity.

It has become clear that the one change that should have come out of all the stuff the RCC did in the 60s would have been to allow for married priests.

Presumably that would have stopped the lavender mafia from taking over the RCC in the west.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (WdocV)

126 114 not a spy,


Actually, there is more than one theory out there that he *is* as spy (> 1 because both mossad and cia).

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (vWMNq)

127 #1 is not believable after Epstein already supposedly tried to kill himself. He's a pedophile and businessman, not a spy, and more to the point if #1 is right someone will be arrested this weekend for criminal negligence.



Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:05 PM (WdocV)

I hate to say it, but #1 is not that uncommon. One of my friends is currently suing a state (not NY) in the northeast for repeatedly failing to prevent people from killing themselves even though there were all kinds of signs that many of these people were suicidal, up to and including previous suicide attempts.

In the defense of the correctional facilities though, short of posting a guard outside the inmates cell 24/7, there really isn't a whole lot they can do.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (GBteo)

128 >>Yeah, that's far from synonymous with "convicted pedophile." I'd be wary of using that term were I the media.

Not where I come from. You plead guilty to soliciting sex with a minor and have to register as a sex offender you are a convicted pedophile around these parts.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:08 PM (ZLI7S)

129

Update!

After some expressed concern for Epstein's behaviorr, a souce inside the Manhattan Correctional Center says Epstein now on Rigor Mortis watch.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 12:08 PM (Ax1aR)

130 125 It has become clear that the one change that should have come out of all
the stuff the RCC did in the 60s would have been to allow for married
priests.


Clear to whom?

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 12:09 PM (vWMNq)

131 Funny that this Pope is Argentinian. Ask any Hispanic to describe the stereotypical Argentinian and the word 'arrogant' will be included within the first two sentences. Have had Argentinian friends and yes, they are generally very arrogant and full of themselves. Even the Spaniards notice. That's saying a lot. He should be lecturing Argentina instead about all the third reich guests allowed into his native country. For starts.

I apologize about my language but I have had it with this despicable red Pope:
Mr. Francis can either go suck a dick or do us all a favor and do an Epstein.

Posted by: Charles Martell at August 10, 2019 12:09 PM (pD0pA)

132 With deft skill the pedos select their victims and co-conspirators. That is the key to their success. It is the only reason they don't get disappeared like in the old days.

Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 12:09 PM (RuIsu)

133 Elizabeth Warren and Kamaltoe Harris both tweeted yesterday that Michael Brown was "murdered" in Ferguson 5 years ago, and that his death was the result of "systemic racism" in the justice system.
..

The cop that was cleared needs to file two lawsuits, NOW.

Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 12:09 PM (MAstk)

134 122 It is not impossible that Epstein did kill himself out of self loathing and despondence, but the only way that should have been possible is if the guards let him do it or even helped him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (KZzsI)

I mean, it's possible a third party was involved, but at the same time, the courts have really limited what prison guards can do. Their hands are kind of tied, and they don't have the manpower to keep a guard posted on every single possible suicide risk in prison (as you can imagine, it's not uncommon for prisoners to become despondent in either prison or in pre-trial jails.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:10 PM (GBteo)

135 Morning. Waiting to get on Catalina ferry to get dad's ashes in the ocean. I have my hankie.

Posted by: Infidel on phone at August 10, 2019 12:10 PM (o1woq)

136 In the defense of the correctional facilities though, short of posting a
guard outside the inmates cell 24/7, there really isn't a whole lot
they can do.
***

I would have thought that would be the first thing they would have done.

This man potentially had information on high crimes committed by Bill Clinton and a number of the biggest names in Hollywood and supposedly had already tried to kill himself once.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:10 PM (WdocV)

137 The cop that was cleared needs to file two lawsuits, NOW.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 12:09 PM (MAstk)

I agree

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2019 12:11 PM (O2RFr)

138 Posted by: Infidel on phone at August 10, 2019 12:10 PM (o1woq)

God bless you and I hope you have wonderful memories of your dad to think about.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (+0VWg)

139 : Infidel

That's tough.. Prayers for you and yours

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (O2RFr)

140 Today's my birthday Horde! Plus I woke up to find that scumbag Epstein dead. Looks like a good day.

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (1FhAQ)

141 115 - There's no such thing as defamation of a corpse. You can say anything you want about Epstein. All theoretical defamation claims died with him.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (H5knJ)

142 128 >>Yeah, that's far from synonymous with "convicted pedophile." I'd be wary of using that term were I the media.

Not where I come from. You plead guilty to soliciting sex with a minor and have to register as a sex offender you are a convicted pedophile around these parts.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:08 PM (ZLI7S)


Correct, it's in the book.
By making a plea he avoided the possibility of further convictions.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (Hg4NE)

143 I would have thought that would be the first thing they would have done.

This man potentially had information on high crimes committed by Bill Clinton and a number of the biggest names in Hollywood and supposedly had already tried to kill himself once.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:10 PM (WdocV)

I don't think they can or should treat him differently than anyone else just because he's more high profile.

In the prison system I'm most familiar with, suicide watch means they take your sheets, shoe laces, belt, and have someone walk by your cell every hour or two to see if you're still breathing.

As I said, one of my friends is currently suing the state saying that that's inadequate. I don't really think she has a good case though, because I'm not sure what else they can reasonably do.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:13 PM (GBteo)

144 Wouldn't the cop who was cleared be considered a public figure and thus couldn't sue for slander?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 12:13 PM (+0VWg)

145 140 Looks like a good day.


For Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 12:13 PM (vWMNq)

146 I guess that horse wasn't quite beaten to death in the last thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2019 12:13 PM (151Du)

147 140 Today's my birthday Horde! Plus I woke up to find that scumbag Epstein dead. Looks like a good day.

Happy Birthday... The Epstein thing I'm torn ovrer... Does this mean Clinton and the other Dems named get off scot free?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2019 12:13 PM (O2RFr)

148 I mean, it's possible a third party was involved, but at the same time, the courts have really limited what prison guards can do.

Jails have gotten really good about making it extremely difficult to kill yourself over the years. If they are trying to stop you, they even can put you in a special outfit. There's literally nothing in the cell to use to hurt yourself with. Sometimes you're even somewhat restrained.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:14 PM (KZzsI)

149 Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (1FhAQ)

Happy Birthday! How does it feel to be 29?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 12:14 PM (+0VWg)

150 141 115 - There's no such thing as defamation of a corpse. You can say anything you want about Epstein. All theoretical defamation claims died with him.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (H5knJ)



Come to me, come to me.


Posted by: Necrophiliac at August 10, 2019 12:14 PM (Hg4NE)

151
remember the Stones' song that goes "who killed Kennedy? It was you and me?"

I hate that song.

But who kilt Epstein? The Left says it was you, me, and Putin.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 12:14 PM (Ax1aR)

152 146 I guess that horse wasn't quite beaten to death in the last thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2019 12:13 PM (151Du)


It ain't over yet.

Posted by: Epstein's ghost at August 10, 2019 12:15 PM (Hg4NE)

153 150 Come to me, come to me.


That was "defamation", not "desecration".

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 12:15 PM (vWMNq)

154 I don't think they can or should treat him differently than anyone else just because he's more high profile.

***

If true that is insane, and again the person responsible, presumably the warden, should be charged with criminal negligence.



Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:16 PM (WdocV)

155 140 Today's my birthday Horde! Plus I woke up to find that scumbag Epstein dead. Looks like a good day.

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (1FhAQ)


Happy Birthday! Yes, on the one hand it's good that Epstein is dead, but on the other hand, it may mean that people even more evil than him will skate.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 12:16 PM (sdi6R)

156 Hey Horde, bleg to help a friend with an animal rescue. this Link NOT in my sig, as pixy has banned tinyurl in sigs
https://tinyurl.com/vote-for-Arlo.

should take you to website for charity contest from Wahl clippers and animal rescue website. Vote for Arlo to help Lost Fantasy Rescue. A few years ago the horde helped them get into the top ten to get some money from a TV station.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 10, 2019 12:16 PM (vrfMC)

157 A commenter at Conservative Treehouse blog said she (?) was puzzled that the original report said an inmate who looked like Epstein was wheeled out. She wondered why the face was not covered and posted the picture. Another commenter speculated that with all of Epstein's money perhaps he bought a double so he could escape. So, it does seem like many people are questioning the suicide explanation. My personal theory is that the trial would have been so damaging to TPTB, that in spite of how suspect people would view it, they had to make it happen.

Posted by: Chillin the most at August 10, 2019 12:17 PM (lonOK)

158 Prick Wilson totes believes Rooshin Collooshin, but Epstein? That's crazy talk.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:17 PM (oVJmc)

159 Just came inside from mowing the plantation and heard about Epstein. How predictable was this? Anybody win the pool?

Posted by: freaked at August 10, 2019 12:17 PM (Tnijr)

160 remember the Stones' song that goes "who killed Kennedy? It was you and me?"



I hate that song.



But who kilt Epstein? The Left says it was you, me, and Putin.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 12:14 PM (Ax1aR)


Sympathy for the Devil. It was originally Kennedy but changed to the Kennedys as Bobby got offed when they were making the song

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 12:18 PM (+vi/F)

161 "Jails have gotten really good about making it extremely difficult to kill yourself over the years. "

Not if they want you dead.

Posted by: freaked at August 10, 2019 12:18 PM (Tnijr)

162 How predictable was this? Anybody win the pool?
___

I believe you'll find that I picked the day, time, and method (which they'll release at some point I imagine), so where do I collect my winnings?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 10, 2019 12:18 PM (WdocV)

163 149 Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (1FhAQ)

Happy Birthday! How does it feel to be 29?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 12:14 PM (+0VWg)

Well, more like 1.89655*29. But it feels pretty much the same!

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 10, 2019 12:20 PM (1FhAQ)

164 On a lighter note, I watched the Tango vidoe and then went down the rabbit hole of youtube recommended videos. Clicked on a flash mob performing Beethoven's Ode To Joy in Nurnberg. Helped to restore my faith in humanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a23945btJYw

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 10, 2019 12:20 PM (aS1PU)

165 remember the Stones' song that goes "who killed Kennedy? It was you and me?"

Yeah but remember, its Satan singing that song, claiming he's not so bad. I take that as one of his lies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:21 PM (KZzsI)

166 I never liked Epstein in Kotter either.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 10, 2019 12:21 PM (iuogb)

167 Gosh I hope there is a tell all video from Epstein. Of course nowadays they would say is was a deep fake.

Posted by: freaked at August 10, 2019 12:21 PM (Tnijr)

168 Jails have gotten really good about making it extremely difficult to kill yourself over the years. If they are trying to stop you, they even can put you in a special outfit. There's literally nothing in the cell to use to hurt yourself with. Sometimes you're even somewhat restrained.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:14 PM (KZzsI)

Eh... I don't know. There's a long line of cases about restraining prisoners.

But I do know that prisoners commit suicide more often then you seem to think. It's not that uncommon. And to be fair, the prison guards are usually fairly indifferent to the fate of murders, rapists, and the other assorted miscreants they have to deal with on a daily basis.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:21 PM (GBteo)

169 "But who kilt Epstein?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter"


What nationalist terrorists on orders from Trump himself.

Posted by: Ripley at August 10, 2019 12:22 PM (MxEKc)

170 The trial went away, hence anything that would have been revealed in the trial went away. Whether that shuts down the larger case he was involved with I don't know. I suspect so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:22 PM (KZzsI)

171 Hey what's this thread about anyway?

Posted by: freaked at August 10, 2019 12:22 PM (Tnijr)

172 What was Warren's Manson Family name?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2019 12:22 PM (1g7ch)

173 Clearly am arkascide.

Posted by: Infidel at August 10, 2019 12:23 PM (o1woq)

174 RESOLVED: 'Doctor Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine' is infinitely superior to 'Doctor Goldfoot and the Girl Bombs.' FIGHT ME!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:24 PM (oVJmc)

175 98 There's a theory that the Roman Catholic Church was infested with homosexuals


It's pretty well documented and not just homosexuals but communists as well. Since the 1920s. A former communist (woman) wrote a book about it in the late 40s.
Posted by: Off the reservation at August 10, 2019 12:02 PM (vWMNq)

There is a big Catholic Church in Royal Oak Michigan that broadcast communist radio during WW11, and supposedly Henry Ford supplied the money to build it. It's called Shrine of the Little Flower.

Posted by: Chillin the most at August 10, 2019 12:24 PM (lonOK)

176 Ah, flash mobs. Back when the Internet was charming. Now we just get actual mobs.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 10, 2019 12:24 PM (H5knJ)

177 170 The trial went away, hence anything that would have been revealed in the trial went away. Whether that shuts down the larger case he was involved with I don't know. I suspect so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:22 PM (KZzsI)

Yeah, I'd say that this puts an end to any criminal proceedings on this subject. They could go after the Maxwell chick I guess. I wouldn't bet on it though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:25 PM (GBteo)

178 I'm not gonna argue that its certain this was murder. I'm just going to point out that its awfully damned convenient that so many who can harm the Clintons politically ends up dying. Its a bold move, staring you right in the face, daring you to ask questions or point out the obvious.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:25 PM (KZzsI)

179 I would love to see that on "so you think you can dance." Tango!

Posted by: JAS at August 10, 2019 12:25 PM (I5SAg)

180 If you haven't seen the tweet thread by David French about how stupid it is to think that Epstein was murdered, you should go there NOW. It is inspirational and shows just how stupid rank and file republicans are.


Buy my news e-mail.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at August 10, 2019 12:25 PM (pw+jk)

181 Ocasio-Cortez: "We Need Answers" Over Epstein's Suicide - "Lots Of Them"

-
Don't worry, Donkey Chompers . . .

FBI Opens Investigation

-
They'll get to the bottom of it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 10, 2019 12:26 PM (+y/Ru)

182 If you haven't seen the tweet thread by David French about how stupid it is to think that Epstein was murdered, you should go there NOW. It is inspirational and shows just how stupid rank and file republicans are.


The Conservative Case For Blind Faith In Our Betters

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:26 PM (oVJmc)

183
It has become clear that the one change that should have come out of all the stuff the RCC did in the 60s would have been to allow for married priests.

Presumably that would have stopped the lavender mafia from taking over the RCC in the west.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (WdocV)


Unlikely. There are other organizations with just as many problems with sexual abuse of children, such as schools, which do not require celibacy.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 10, 2019 12:26 PM (SgjGX)

184 178 I'm not gonna argue that its certain this was murder. I'm just going to point out that its awfully damned convenient that so many who can harm the Clintons politically ends up dying. Its a bold move, staring you right in the face, daring you to ask questions or point out the obvious.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:25 PM (KZzsI)

Could be.

But think about it -- what would Epstein have to gain by dropping names at this point anyways? He was going to go to prison for a long stretch if convicted of the crimes (at his age, that'd be a life sentence), and there's no way a prosecutor cuts him any kind of real slack to name some of the famous people who he pimped his harem out to.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:26 PM (GBteo)

185 Hey what's this thread about anyway?

Posted by: freaked at August 10, 2019 12:22

Fauxcahontas wants to re-litigate the Michael Brown case. So white supremacists killed Juan Epstein and then did a Tango. That about sums it up.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 10, 2019 12:26 PM (iuogb)

186 If we're going to relitigate the Michael Brown case can we dig him up and shoot him again?

I know that sounds petty but it's only fair.

Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2019 12:27 PM (pq7i8)

187 But I do know that prisoners commit suicide more often then you seem to think. It's not that uncommon. ...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:21 PM (GBteo)


Conjecture

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:27 PM (Hg4NE)

188 That sound you hear is half of the Democrat Party, Hollywood, and Prince Andrew sighing with relief.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:27 PM (qgh3L)

189 So Lizzy wants to relitigate the Brown case? Well let's face it, she was never a very good attorney.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2019 12:28 PM (axyOa)

190 But think about it -- what would Epstein have to gain by dropping names at this point anyways? He was going to go to prison for a long stretch if convicted of the crimes (at his age, that'd be a life sentence), and there's no way a prosecutor cuts him any kind of real slack to name some of the famous people who he pimped his harem out to.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:26 PM (GBteo)


Revenge. Also misery loves company.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:29 PM (qgh3L)

191 I kept warning about The Quickening but did anyone take me seriously?

Posted by: Zombie Art Bell at August 10, 2019 12:29 PM (pq7i8)

192 Any thoughts on "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"? Haven't seen it yet.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 12:29 PM (H8QX8)

193 I shouted out
"Who killed the Epstein?"
When after all
It was you and me

Posted by: Billz and Hillz at August 10, 2019 12:29 PM (+y/Ru)

194 189 So Lizzy wants to relitigate the Brown case? Well let's face it, she was never a very good attorney.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2019 12:28 PM (axyOa)


She wants to make sure the credit card companies didn't hose him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:29 PM (qgh3L)

195 178 I'm not gonna argue that its certain this was murder. I'm just going to point out that its awfully damned convenient that so many who can harm the Clintons politically ends up dying. Its a bold move, staring you right in the face, daring you to ask questions or point out the obvious.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:25 PM (KZzsI)


And from down below:


Washington Post reporter, MSNBC contributor Carol Leonnig

@CarolLeonnig

People close to Epstein fear he was murdered...as Epstein told authorities someone tried to kill him in a previous incident weeks earlier. He was described as being in good spirits in recent days...

8:05 AM - 10 Aug 2019

Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 12:11 PM (jY1B4)

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:29 PM (Hg4NE)

196
So white supremacists killed Juan Epstein

They got tired of the fake excuse notes from his mother.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 12:30 PM (aKsyK)

197 I'm guessing it wasn't the Clinton's on this one. There's no telling which elites he had dirt on, some conceivably more powerful and protected than the Clintons are now. But we'll never ever know.

We now return you to orangemanbad! currently in progress.

Posted by: Unsurprised sigh at August 10, 2019 12:30 PM (oS0xz)

198 But think about it -- what would Epstein have to gain by dropping names at this point anyways?

He didn't have to. If he's found guilty of various crimes and incidents that others were proven to be involved in, that implicates them anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:30 PM (KZzsI)

199 As predicted, #ClintonBodyCount is no longer trending on Twitter.

#TrumpBodyCount is. SMH

Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 12:30 PM (sGotD)

200 They'll get to the bottom of it!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 10, 2019 12:26 PM (+y/Ru)


Put Mayor Pete on it. That's his thing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:30 PM (qgh3L)

201 http://bit.ly/2M8XibW
*******
The White House Readies Draft of Executive Order That Could Break the Internet
*******
OMFG It's the end of the world as we know it

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (BqBId)

202 Its a bold move, staring you right in the face, daring you to ask questions or point out the obvious.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:25 PM (KZzsI)


We came,
We saw,
He died.

Cackle

- Hillary

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (1g7ch)

203 Conjecture
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:27 PM (Hg4NE)

Well, here's a story from fake news cnn quoting state and federal prison stats after aaron hernandez offed himself (while on suicide watch as well, if I recall.)
https://tinyurl.com/y4x25e8o

approx. 4,000 prisoners committed suicide in jail / prison in 2014. Thats 20 / 100,000.

Lots of google search results, I don't feel like wading through it all.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (GBteo)

204
My Theory:

Epstein's had his lawyers contact all the Elite pedos to tell them he's not going down alone -- so, either they do everything they can to get him out of this or he'll tell everything he knows.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (Ax1aR)

205 180 If you haven't seen the tweet thread by David French about how stupid it is to think that Epstein was murdered, you should go there NOW. It is inspirational and shows just how stupid rank and file republicans are.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at August 10, 2019 12:25 PM (pw+jk)


If this isn't a joke, then French has entered self-parody territory.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (sdi6R)

206 We live in such weird times that we can't believe an FBI investigation into Epstein's death--OR-media reporting on it.

How did we get here?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (NFEMn)

207 I'd say "cui bono?" but I don't want to end up whacked myself.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (qgh3L)

208 Babylon Bee related story from 2017:

https://tinyurl.com/y39geg9m

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (+0VWg)

209 From Insty comments:
Pear shaped woman in pantsuit seen fleeing scene.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 10, 2019 12:32 PM (LxTcq)

210 These conspiracy theories are ridiculous. It's not like there's a trail of convenient dead behind the Clintons. I mean, why would anyone suspect those straight arrows of anything? They're very honest and forthcoming. Surely not because Bill was on Epstein's jet more than a dozen times?

There are conspiracy theories - on both sides - because ordinary people have figured out that the law and law enforcement do not work as advertised. There's rules for The Elect, and a whole other set of rules for everyone else.

Posted by: Seth Rich & Vince Foster at August 10, 2019 12:32 PM (H5knJ)

211 The White House Readies Draft of Executive Order That Could Break the Internet


Git 'r' done!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:32 PM (oVJmc)

212 He didn't have to. If he's found guilty of various crimes and incidents that others were proven to be involved in, that implicates them anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:30 PM (KZzsI)

Eh, possibly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:32 PM (GBteo)

213 Any thoughts on "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"? Haven't seen it yet.

-
I liked it but it's more how things should've been than how things were.

Posted by: Billz and Hillz at August 10, 2019 12:32 PM (+y/Ru)

214 I'm guessing it wasn't the Clinton's on this one. There's no telling which elites he had dirt on, some conceivably more powerful and protected than the Clintons are now.

Yeah it doesn't have to have been them. This goes very deeply into the houses of power, and any of fifty different people could have done it, or had it done for them by someone who does not wish to see them harmed politically.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:33 PM (KZzsI)

215 Joe Scarborough says Putin did it. Keep Russia Russia Russia alive.

I'm waiting for today's impeachment diatribe.

Posted by: torabora to at August 10, 2019 12:33 PM (pq7i8)

216

The Cucks today: It is stupid and senseless to think Epstein was murdered, but if Epstein was murdered, it was at the behest of Putin and Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 12:33 PM (Ax1aR)

217 Epstein's had his lawyers contact all the Elite pedos to tell them he's not going down alone -- so, either they do everything they can to get him out of this or he'll tell everything he knows.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (Ax1aR)

It's definitely a possibility.

But we'll never know if that happened.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:33 PM (GBteo)

218 Unlikely. There are other organizations with just as many problems with sexual abuse of children, such as schools, which do not require celibacy.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 10, 2019 12:26 PM (SgjGX)


There you go again, using reason.

The common denominator: people in positions of authority who are around kids.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (qgh3L)

219 From the linked gizzmoto article:

To be clear, there is no evidence that social media networks are actively engaged in deliberate censorship of any particular political point of view

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (Hg4NE)

220 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Posted by: Epstein's Suicide Watch at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (9dzlp)

221 Murdering Joe Scarborough thinks that it was the Russians that killed Epstein.

He has literally lost his mind with TDS. TDS is worse than dementia for leftists and never Trumpers, BIRM.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (pw+jk)

222 Yeah it doesn't have to have been them. This goes very deeply into the houses of power, and any of fifty different people could have done it, or had it done for them by someone who does not wish to see them harmed politically.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:33 PM (KZzsI)

I'm not saying that it's not possible that someone bribed a guard or whatever to kill epstein / allow him to commit suicide. It wouldn't be unheard of.

I just don't think that'd be my occams razor explanation.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (GBteo)

223 OK. I must remind the Horde again. Francis is an anti-pope. Benedict is still Pope because he did not resign the office. He resigned the Administrative Ministry. Benedict still wears white and gives Apostolic Blessings. Francis should be called "Regent."
Go to barnhardt.biz to get educated.

Posted by: JAS at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (I5SAg)

224 140
Today's my birthday Horde! Plus I woke up to find that scumbag Epstein dead. Looks like a good day.

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at August 10, 2019 12:12 PM (1FhAQ)


Happy Birt6hday. And celebrate that the Krooked Klintons get off scott free once again.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 12:35 PM (mpXpK)

225 Youse guys are too funny!

"Ace dropped by this morning with a post on Epstein's death, below. Unless it overflows, you might want to leave your Epstein comments there."

1 Jim McDougal's autopsy needs to be compared with Epstein's.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (BmSkj)

Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 12:35 PM (cF8AT)

226 Meat head, Rob Reiner says in a tweet that Epstein opened the can of worms on high ups ... and told Trump "enjoy your vacation Mr. President." meaning of course that Trump is responsible and guilty

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2019 12:35 PM (O2RFr)

227 209
From Insty comments:

Pear shaped woman in pantsuit seen fleeing scene.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 10, 2019 12:32 PM (LxTcq)


I came, I saw, he died!!!!!!

(insane cackle)

Posted by: Chlamydia Thundershart at August 10, 2019 12:36 PM (9dzlp)

228 To be clear, there is no evidence that social media networks are actively engaged in deliberate censorship of any particular political point of view
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (Hg4NE)
*******
Yep if you never look for it, you will never find evidence

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 12:36 PM (BqBId)

229
1 Jim McDougal's autopsy needs to be compared with Epstein's.



Or Breitbart's.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:36 PM (oVJmc)

230 Happy Birthday Joncelli !

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2019 12:36 PM (arJlL)

231 We live in such weird times that we can't believe an FBI investigation into Epstein's death--OR-media reporting on it.



How did we get here?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (NFEMn)

====
OH OH I KNOW!!!
The FIB is a joke and the media lies about everything. The question is why did it take us so long to get to the correct conclusions.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (pw+jk)

232 226 Meat head, Rob Reiner says in a tweet that Epstein opened the can of worms on high ups ... and told Trump "enjoy your vacation Mr. President." meaning of course that Trump is responsible and guilty

I'll bet you anything Reiner's got 10x worse in his closet than Trump has in his.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (oVJmc)

233 Unlikely. There are other organizations with just as many problems
with sexual abuse of children, such as schools, which do not require
celibacy.

***

The issue with the RCC is gay men sexually assaulting boys, often with the knowledge of their superiors...often also gay men.

In schools and the like it is mixed women and boys, men and girls, and homosexual, and generally occurs because of normal bureaucratic incompetence


The Red Pope knows a number of his gay priests are abusing boys and at best he isn't all that worried about it.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (WdocV)

234 From Insty comments:

Pear shaped woman in pantsuit seen fleeing scene.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 10, 2019 12:32 PM (LxTcq)


Her hover round hit warp speed

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (HuGO2)

235 It has become clear that the one change that should have come out of all the stuff the RCC did in the 60s would have been to allow for married priests.

Presumably that would have stopped the lavender mafia from taking over the RCC in the west.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (WdocV)

This is dopey thinking. Horny men --in the absence of women--don't default to playing with POST-pubescent boys or children. Also, a typical parish priest has access to all kinds of woman and if he is so inclined, why would he not break his celibacy vow with a woman instead of a male of the opposite sex?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (NFEMn)

236 If Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)

237 The Meme list should include Mueller's disastrous congressional testimony.

Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (786Ro)

238 It's also possible that Epstein was, say, coerced in to killing himself.

"Jeff, buddy, no matter what you're never going to walk around a free man again. You can go through with a trial and implicate a lot of very powerful people who can make your life on the inside a living hell and the life of everyone you know and love a living hell. Or you could do the honorable thing, save everyone the embarrassment, save the girls the horrible trauma of having to testify about their ordeals in court by just offing yourself. And if you do, your friends and family will be taken care of, and those powerful people will help to rehabilitate your image after this whole thing blows over."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (GBteo)

239 Murdering Joe Scarborough thinks that it was the Russians that killed Epstein.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (pw+jk)


Twas beauty that killed the beast.

Posted by: Carl Denham at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (aS1PU)

240 One thing for sure, there is about a million times more evidence that Hillz and Billz killed Epstein (and a bunch of others) than there is for anthropogenic global warming.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 10, 2019 12:38 PM (+y/Ru)

241 Oprah did it.

Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:38 PM (QwmrN)

242 Meat head, Rob Reiner says in a tweet that Epstein
opened the can of worms on high ups ... and told Trump "enjoy your
vacation Mr. President." meaning of course that Trump is responsible and
guilty

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2019 12:35 PM (O2RFr)



The left is going to push the lie that Trump had him killed. By the Sunday shows it will discussed as fact

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 12:38 PM (HuGO2)

243 Who is taking bets that they "misplace" his body?

Like some one puts him in a bag in the morgues with a tag that says "homeless bum found dead under an overpass with a needle in his arm" Cremate immediately.
Then the new guy comes in and starts up the oven....

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 10, 2019 12:38 PM (9dzlp)

244 201 http://bit.ly/2M8XibW
*******
The White House Readies Draft of Executive Order That Could Break the Internet
*******
OMFG It's the end of the world as we know it
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (BqBId)

Wow. Read the comments after the article earth. Summary.. 'They hate us and wants us dead'.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 10, 2019 12:39 PM (l0HIT)

245 214

Yup. We were never going to know anything substantial re: big names, much less the victims see true justice. Not in this world anyway. Epstein now serves as a very clear example for others.

Posted by: Unsurprised sigh at August 10, 2019 12:39 PM (oS0xz)

246 "219
From the linked gizzmoto article:



To be clear, there is no evidence that social media networks are
actively engaged in deliberate censorship of any particular political
point of view

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (Hg4NE)"
..Oh, that's.. special.
Whatever. It's nothing but mouth noises to fill in the emptiness counting down to the Day of the Colander.
Someone mentioned Kingsman: The Secret Service the other day, in regards to moonbat murder fantasies and this new deplorable-hunt film coming out. People in my office attach that to company-all emails and snicker about it when they're particularly butthurt about Orangemanbad.
We all know where this is all headed.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at August 10, 2019 12:39 PM (67XdO)

247 236 If Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)

You would think so. A helicopter crash or whatever in the virgin islands would be easy enough to arrange, I would have to imagine. And could be made to look accidental.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:39 PM (GBteo)

248 Two non-hackers trying to revive their campaigns Elizabeth Warren and Kamaltoe Harris both tweeted yesterday that Michael Brown was "murdered" in Ferguson 5 years ago, and that his death was the result of "systemic racism" in the justice system.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:39 PM (qgh3L)

249 Infidel - you putting the ashes in from the ferry? Authorized? Is that a thing? The one from LA harbor, or Dana Point?

Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2019 12:40 PM (QDnY+)

250 Auto cucumber hates me.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 10, 2019 12:40 PM (l0HIT)

251 Murdering Joe Scarborough thinks that it was the Russians that killed Epstein.


He should throw in his intern, too. Two birds with one stone, as 'twere.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:40 PM (oVJmc)

252 Besides Cannibal Bob, does anybody else have a problem of smelling like meat after changing deodorant?

Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:40 PM (QwmrN)

253 I'll bet you anything Reiner's got 10x worse in his closet than Trump has in his.!

Nothing about Trump's behavior or past remotely suggests he likes kids. Reiner on the other hand...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

254 If Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)
*****
YEP

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (BqBId)

255 There are conspiracy theories - on both sides - because ordinary people have figured out that the law and law enforcement do not work as advertised. There's rules for The Elect, and a whole other set of rules for everyone else.
Posted by: Seth Rich & Vince Foster at August 10, 2019 12:32 PM (H5knJ)


Nah,

The UniParty progs know for a fact that deep state gets their corrupt leaders off, so they figure the opposition is corrupt and has fixers too.


Or, at a lower level, if I was involved in a little welfare fraud I may just say, "everybody does it."

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (1g7ch)

256 I guess Micah Xavier Johnson was also murdered when he was blown up by the Dallas Police. That's what a lot of Lefties claim also.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (2DOZq)

257 Anyone else think that the talking head on FoxNews looks and sounds a bit like the character Boooger from the revenge of the nerds movies?

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (VcFUs)

258 Meat head, Rob Reiner says in a tweet that Epstein
opened the can of worms on high ups ... and told Trump "enjoy your vacation Mr. President." meaning of course that Trump is responsible and guilty

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2019 12:35 PM (O2RFr)


I suspect it's Reiner's lot that had a lot more to worry about.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (qgh3L)

259 Old:

See something, say something.

New:

Know something, say nothing or get Jeff'd.

Posted by: Unsurprised sigh at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (oS0xz)

260 If Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

Posted by: JackStraw

Because the access to young girls would have dried up

Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (bk3t/)

261 236 If Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)


It wasn't a problem then.
It was thought to go away.
Then the box was opened.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (Hg4NE)

262 238 It's also possible that Epstein was, say, coerced in to killing himself.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (GBteo)


Did he have a family? I honestly don't know, but that sort of thing works much better with credible threats against loved ones.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 12:42 PM (sdi6R)

263 Two non-hackers trying to revive their campaigns Elizabeth Warren and Kamaltoe Harris both tweeted yesterday that Michael Brown was "murdered" in Ferguson 5 years ago, and that his death was the result of "systemic racism" in the justice system.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:39 PM (qgh3L)

Democrats are really worried about the black vote in 2020.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 12:42 PM (NFEMn)

264 @stevenportnoy 3 minutes ago

JUST IN: Attorney General William Barr says he was "appalled" to learn of Epstein's death in jail.

"Mr. Epstein's death raises serious questions that must be answered," Barr says in statement, adding DOJ IG and FBI will investigate.

Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 12:42 PM (cF8AT)

265 Did he have a family? I honestly don't know, but that sort of thing works much better with credible threats against loved ones.
Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 12:42 PM (sdi6R)

I know he has a brother. I assume there are people he loves, but as far as I know, he was never married and never had kids.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:43 PM (GBteo)

266 It's also possible that Epstein was, say, coerced in to killing himself.



Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (GBteo)



Did he have a family? I honestly don't know, but that sort of thing works much better with credible threats against loved ones.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 12:42 PM (sdi6R)



Tom Hagen brought his brother from Sicily to the trial

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 12:43 PM (+WF2S)

267 To be clear, there is no evidence that social media networks are actively engaged in deliberate censorship of any particular political point of view
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM/i]


That's because the engineers developed us to punish the wrongthink autonomously. We got this. The dev team is in the break room actively playing ping pong.

Posted by: Machine Learning Algorithms at August 10, 2019 12:43 PM (786Ro)

268 so two nutcases in TX and OH who don't know each other and have typical/average nutcase killer profiles acted in order to distract from the list of items above? Uh, OK. Better bet is they acted in accord with the demons in their tiny garbage brains.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2019 12:43 PM (QDnY+)

269

It's almost too good to be true for Canadian customers of Chase Bank.

This week, the company announced that it would forgive all outstanding debt owed by customers in Canada, WCNC reported.

The decision was made after the bank decided to leave the Canadian credit market, according to WCNC.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (aKsyK)

270 Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)
*****

I think he killed himself or had a heart attack but just as a devil's advocate you kill the blackmailer after you make sure his blackmail information can't be released even after his untimely death.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (2DOZq)

271 Here's the thing, the left doesn't believe or even think it might be true that Trump killed Epstein. But pushing that makes it sound more like crazy conspiracy to claim someone else did...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (KZzsI)

272 254 If Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)
*****
YEP
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 12:41 PM (BqBId)

The old Tim Macveigh staged public death. This is likely.

Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (QwmrN)

273 If Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him
killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed
him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

***

Up until recently it looked like Epstein had skated.


Imagine if Bill Clinton (or whoever) discovered say last week that Epstein had some physical evidence and was talking with the feds about what kind of deal he could make in return for it.


Obviously we don't know.


But what we do know is that Epstein wasn't being protected very well which is bizarre considering the people he has been connected with.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (WdocV)

274 @stevenportnoy 3 minutes ago

JUST IN: Attorney General William Barr says he was "appalled" to learn of Epstein's death in jail.

"Mr. Epstein's death raises serious questions that must be answered," Barr says in statement, adding DOJ IG and FBI will investigate.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 12:42 PM (cF8AT)


Okay. I've gotten to the point where I read that as:

"Attorney General William Barr says he was shocked, SHOCKED to learn of Epstein's death in jail."

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (aS1PU)

275 >> 221 Murdering Joe Scarborough thinks that it was the Russians that killed Epstein.

He's setting the stage for his own suicide. Imagine if you had to go down on Mika ever night.

Posted by: 40 miles north at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (o2vOl)

276 It's almost too good to be true for Canadian customers of Chase Bank.

This week, the company announced that it would forgive all outstanding debt owed by customers in Canada, WCNC reported.

The decision was made after the bank decided to leave the Canadian credit market, according to WCNC.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (aKsyK)



whaaaaaat?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (GBteo)

277 "Mr. Epstein's death raises serious questions that must be answered," Barr says in statement, adding DOJ IG and FBI will investigate.


Horowitz will come.

#TwoYears

Posted by: Stealth Barr and Undercover Horowitz at August 10, 2019 12:45 PM (786Ro)

278 Tom Hagen brought his brother from Sicily to the trial

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 12:43 PM (+WF2S)

How did i not see The Godfather link in this. I'm slipping.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't be young again, you can always be immature.' at August 10, 2019 12:45 PM (l0HIT)

279 270 Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)
*****

I think he killed himself or had a heart attack but just as a devil's advocate you kill the blackmailer after you make sure his blackmail information can't be released even after his untimely death.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (2DOZq)

He choked to death on his baby teeth. You know what I'm talking about if you have seen the picture with billyjeff.

Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:45 PM (QwmrN)

280 The Brown case statements by two prez primary candidates I find stunning. Or maybe just a fresh reminder of the national degradation that was on almost constant display during the misrule of the affirmative action intern. Disgusting.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2019 12:46 PM (QDnY+)

281 >>It wasn't a problem then.
It was thought to go away.
Then the box was opened.

I don't know about you but if someone was blackmailing me with evidence that I was engaging in sex with underage girls I'd consider that a problem as long as he was breathing. Blackmail is not a friendly gesture.

He might have been killed. He might have killed himself given the prospect of being dragged through the courts for the next couple years and spending the rest of his miserable life in federal prison.

Just seems to me if someone killed him they went to one hell of a lot of trouble and I'm not sure what they gained. They have other witnesses with a hell of a lot more credibility.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

282 236 If Epstein was blackmailing someone rich and powerful enough to have him killed while he was in a federal prison, why wouldn't they have killed him years ago when he was free and it would have been so much easier?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ZLI7S)

You would think so. A helicopter crash or whatever in the virgin islands would be easy enough to arrange, I would have to imagine. And could be made to look accidental.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:39 PM (GBteo)


I dunno. Paying off Epstein is one thing. Murdering him - and possibly innocent bystander(s) - is another.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:47 PM (qgh3L)

283 @stevenportnoy 3 minutes ago



JUST IN: Attorney General William Barr says he was "appalled" to learn of Epstein's death in jail.



"Mr. Epstein's death raises serious questions that must be
answered," Barr says in statement, adding DOJ IG and FBI will
investigate.

Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 12:42 PM (cF8AT)


In the previous thread the link to the twatter feed of some cow named Cheri Jacobus they are claiming that Barr had him killed.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 12:47 PM (+WF2S)

284 Yeah if Epstein was blackmailing anyone, it wasn't UNTIL he was in prison

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:47 PM (KZzsI)

285 It was Mr. Mustard with the rope.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't be young again, you can always be immature.' at August 10, 2019 12:48 PM (l0HIT)

286 Just seems to me if someone killed him they went to one hell of a lot of trouble and I'm not sure what they gained. They have other witnesses with a hell of a lot more credibility.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

Right. Now if all the women accusing Epstein and various famous people of having sex with them when they were underage all start dying off, maybe I'd be more willing to buy in to the "Epstein was whacked" theory.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:48 PM (GBteo)

287 The Epstein suicide is deeply troubling. We will investigate. First, beginning in twelve weeks, we will ...

Posted by: FBI at August 10, 2019 12:48 PM (4Eo4+)

288 274 @stevenportnoy 3 minutes ago

JUST IN: Attorney General William Barr says he was "appalled" to learn of Epstein's death in jail.

"Mr. Epstein's death raises serious questions that must be answered," Barr says in statement, adding DOJ IG and FBI will investigate.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 12:42 PM (cF8AT)

Okay. I've gotten to the point where I read that as:

"Attorney General William Barr says he was shocked, SHOCKED to learn of Epstein's death in jail."
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (aS1PU)


I imagine that Barr - and Trump - would be thrilled to have had Epstein prosecuted. His trial could have blown up a LOT of Trump's enemies, I suspect.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:50 PM (qgh3L)

289 , maybe I'd be more willing to buy in to the "Epstein was whacked" theory.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:48 PM (GBteo

Trust me Harry.

Posted by: Fredo at August 10, 2019 12:50 PM (l0HIT)

290 It's almost too good to be true for Canadian customers of Chase Bank.

This week, the company announced that it would forgive all outstanding debt owed by customers in Canada, WCNC reported.

The decision was made after the bank decided to leave the Canadian credit market, according to WCNC.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM



whaaaaaat?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM



FORBES:
So what would convince a mega bank to walk away from what could be millions of dollars? The company tells CBC it was the best decision for the bank and customers, hinting that forgiveness was probably cheaper than continuing to process payments or farm it out to a third party debt collector.

https://fortune.com/2019/08/08/chase-forgives- outstanding-credit-card-debt-canada/


emph. mine

Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2019 12:50 PM (786Ro)

291
It wasn't a problem then.
It was thought to go away.
Then the box was opened.


"Peace on Earth" was all it said.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 12:51 PM (aKsyK)

292 Trump is pissed off right now.

Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:51 PM (QwmrN)

293 You don't kill a blackmailer unless the blackmail information dies with them.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 12:51 PM (2DOZq)

294 >> 34 Tulsi Gabbard is a post-term aborting gun-banning
>> illegal-coddling breaker of oaths

I'm thinking he doesn't care for coffee cake. Or hyphens.

Posted by: 40 miles north at August 10, 2019 12:51 PM (o2vOl)

295 Vincent Brown - dead - ironclad evidence the Clintons interfered with the crime scene (if not more). Nothing happened.

Ron Brown - dead - the pathologist that examined his corpse says he has a bullet wound. Nothing happened

Seth Rich - dead - leaked that Hillary Clinton stole the Dem primary to Wikileaks. First DC staffer murdered in 70 years. Police call it random violence. Nothing happens.

And now Jeff Epstein.


Nope, no pattern here.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:51 PM (WdocV)

296 Just seems to me if someone killed him they went to one hell of a lot of trouble and I'm not sure what they gained. They have other witnesses with a hell of a lot more credibility.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)

Right. Now if all the women accusing Epstein and various famous people of having sex with them when they were underage all start dying off, maybe I'd be more willing to buy in to the "Epstein was whacked" theory.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 12:48 PM (GBteo)


Disagree. There might be a hell of a lot of credible witnesses, but who are they? No names, that's who. Page 17 stories, right before the "cat rescued from tree" stories.

Epstein was the key, and the lightning rod that made the story pop.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:52 PM (qgh3L)

297 Yeah if Epstein was blackmailing anyone, it wasn't UNTIL he was in prison
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:47 PM (KZzsI)
~~~~~

Yep. Tells Billy Jeff to get him sprung otherwise he's spilling the beans. Hillary steps in and handles the Epstein eruption like he was a bimbo.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 12:52 PM (sGotD)

298 On the face of it indeed seems like a major scandal [even without outlandish conjecture about plots], but the darkly funny part is ..... the AG announces it's a big deal, and ..... THE FBI will be investigating.


Well that is reassuring.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2019 12:52 PM (QDnY+)

299 There is no deepstate
*clicks heels*
There is no deepstate
*clicks heels*
There is no deepstate
*clicks heels*

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2019 12:52 PM (DrqHq)

300 Well, know that I know that the FBI is on the case, I'm comforted. What was the deal with the Vegas shooter again?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 10, 2019 12:52 PM (H5knJ)

301 Babylon Bee related story from 2017:


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 12:31 PM (+0VWg)



Snopes keeps fact-checking Babylon Bee. Seriously.

Apparently Snopes has proven that CNN did not buy industrial washing machines for their studios to spin the news more effectively.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2019 12:53 PM (q2o38)

302 "To be clear, there is no evidence that social media networks are actively engaged in deliberate censorship of any particular political point of view

Posted by: Braenyard"

You right. In fact I just did a Gulag search on this and come up with nothing

Posted by: Ripley at August 10, 2019 12:53 PM (MxEKc)

303 Quick, summon the Inspector General!
This needs a stern report in 30 or 40 weeks!

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 12:53 PM (SqopC)

304 @300
Shut up.
We already explained it to you.

Posted by: Your Eff Bee Aye at August 10, 2019 12:54 PM (SqopC)

305
I dunno. Paying off Epstein is one thing. Murdering him - and possibly innocent bystander(s) - is another.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Parallax View

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 12:55 PM (aKsyK)

306 >> 285 It was Mr. Mustard with the rope.

Nice..

Posted by: 40 miles north at August 10, 2019 12:55 PM (o2vOl)

307 This pope's recent speeches sound a lot like Rodrigo Borgia in 1500.


I doubt that. I think the current pope wouldn't make an acceptable-quality boil on Rodrigo Borgia's butt.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Says And So It Begins... at August 10, 2019 12:56 PM (Clxcy)

308 So ... how did Epstein nominally at least whack himself? Hanging, I presume?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:56 PM (qgh3L)

309 My guess on the Vegas thing is still that this dude was neck deep in gun running and part of a bigger FBI investigation, so they're trying to make it all go away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:56 PM (KZzsI)

310 >>>But what we do know is that Epstein wasn't being protected very well which is bizarre considering the people he has been connected with.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (WdocV)



Trump keeps his own security on the payroll. Right?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:57 PM (Hg4NE)

311 Just seems to me if someone killed him they went to one hell of a lot of
trouble and I'm not sure what they gained. They have other witnesses
with a hell of a lot more credibility.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)


Could be as simple as multiple factions at work.

As said above, a few months ago it looked like Epstein was going to get away with it all. Then somebody pulled the plug on him. Could have been a group willing to trade Epstein for Trump - which is what I suspected. Could have been loyalists to Trump himself, actually moving to turn Epstein.

Either way - Epstein ends up in custody, and the game changes. Somebody decides enough is enough, the little faggot is going to turn evidence, it's time for him to go bye-bye.

As big as I suspect the Deep State is - there's no way it's all one coordinated effort. Can't be.


Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 12:57 PM (gm/ta)

312 Epstein's business model was to blackmail the rich and powerful to the tune of $Billions. They've likely wanted Epstein dead for decades. Epstein must have had contingencies incase of his unnatural death.

What makes anyone believe Epstein is actually dead now? Wouldn't his contingency plan kick in?
Wouldn't that expose the powerful wealthy members of his international Pedophile Ring?

Posted by: Speller at August 10, 2019 12:57 PM (pSotA)

313 If Epstein was an Intel asset then death protects that Intel agency. Foreign or domestic.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 12:57 PM (v+fx/)

314 308 So ... how did Epstein nominally at least whack himself? Hanging, I presume?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:56 PM (qgh3L)


He hit himself over the head with a toilet seat and drowned.

Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at August 10, 2019 12:57 PM (sdi6R)

315 'He hit himself over the head with a toilet seat and drowned'

What a way to go.

Posted by: freaked at August 10, 2019 12:59 PM (Tnijr)

316 292 Trump is pissed off right now.
Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:51 PM (QwmrN)

I hope so. We need him pissed off.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 12:59 PM (H8QX8)

317 Epstein hacked Democracy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 12:59 PM (v+fx/)

318 Authorized?

Easier to ask forgiveness than permission.

Posted by: Infidel at August 10, 2019 01:00 PM (o1woq)

319 Thread after the Arkancide and before the gardening...

Posted by: JEM at August 10, 2019 01:00 PM (8erNz)

320 >> 308 So ... how did Epstein nominally at least whack himself?

He had a katana so we had to shoot him. Well actually he was being interrogated in handcuffs, but there was definitely a katana in the room. Oh wait, the katana was on a wall display? Let me get back to you.

Posted by: FBI at August 10, 2019 01:00 PM (o2vOl)

321 309 My guess on the Vegas thing is still that this dude was neck deep in gun running and part of a bigger FBI investigation, so they're trying to make it all go away.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2019 12:56 PM (KZzsI)

His family was involved in all kinds of shit including kids.... allegedly.

Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 01:00 PM (QwmrN)

322 Long beach.

Posted by: Indidel at August 10, 2019 01:00 PM (o1woq)

323 I don't think he was blackmailing at the time of the Florida case. They all thought the fix was in and it was back to business as usual.

Then some jackass...

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:00 PM (Hg4NE)

324
Is it me, or are Epstein's lawyers mysteriously silent today?

Right?

I mean, their client is dead now because he wasn't supervised. ANY OTHER lawyer would be screaming about accountability and shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 01:01 PM (Ax1aR)

325 So Epstein said someone tried to kill him weeks earlier and then he was conveniently put into a cell by himself last night and he ends up dead in the morning?

And there are actually people trying to spin this as a real suicide?

BS

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:01 PM (aRAMD)

326 One place you never want to find yourself is the SDNY.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:01 PM (v+fx/)

327 Yeah, Jay, the basic facts here should be interesting. How does a prisoner on suicide watch commit suicide? I suppose this is part of the reason Barr appears agitated.


Everyone focuses on [mostly] speculation about Epstein and the presumed web of top-level perps etc., but there's a separate "process scandal" involving how the earlier case was handled [mostly *ANOTHER* DOJ scandal] that has received attention only from the better/obscure online investigators [and now, in a way from the FL governor, on the state level].


I'm guessing this also partly animates Barr's disquiet here. I assume investigation of that aspect will continue.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2019 01:02 PM (QDnY+)

328

Walmart has ordered workers to remove video game signs and displays that depict violence from stores nationwide after 22 people died in a shooting at one of its Texas stores, but the big box retailer will continue to sell guns.

Walmart will still sell the violent video games and hasn't made any changes to its gun sales policy, despite pressure from workers, politicians and activists to do so.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 01:02 PM (aKsyK)

329 Epsteen tried to roll the toilet paper roll out the window to have an es-cape, epic fail. No window.

Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 01:02 PM (RuIsu)

330 Epstein's business model was to blackmail the rich
and powerful to the tune of $Billions.
Posted by: Speller at August 10, 2019 12:57 PM (pSotA)


See - we don't know that.

I suspect his business model was running a Honey Pot for an Intelligence Agency, possibly ours - possibly foreign, in return for cash and protection. For whatever reason, that protection was lifted, and he was hung out.

It is possible that the friggin' idiot didn't have a "dead man switch". He may have thought he didn't need one.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:03 PM (gm/ta)

331 Maybe it was White Nationalists.

Those guys are everywhere.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 01:03 PM (ZLI7S)

332 Snide and sarcastic, or not, how many times have we hear opined that Epstein was a potential target for Arkancide?

I'm guessing dozens to hundreds of times.

I rather doubt that anyone here is surprised by this.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:03 PM (CDGwz)

333
Maybe it was White Nationalists.

Those guys are everywhere.
Posted by: JackStraw


Too many White Russians.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 01:05 PM (aKsyK)

334 Maybe Epstein was just helping young school girls with their college plans?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:05 PM (v+fx/)

335 What does Al Gore know and when will he know it?

Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 01:05 PM (RuIsu)

336 332 Snide and sarcastic, or not, how many times have we hear opined that Epstein was a potential target for Arkancide?

I'm guessing dozens to hundreds of times.

I rather doubt that anyone here is surprised by this.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:03 PM (CDGwz)


Yeah, and see my #68.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 01:06 PM (sdi6R)

337 I just watch the suicide I don't actually try to stop it.

Posted by: The suicide watch watcher at August 10, 2019 01:06 PM (Tnijr)

338 >>>667 How in the fuck does the most important #1 witness in the country get killed/suicided in custody?

Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:36 PM (QwmrN)



This is a PSA to all other potential government witnesses.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:06 PM (Hg4NE)

339 How many white nationalist are in the SDNY?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:06 PM (v+fx/)

340 Yeah, Jay, the basic facts here should be interesting. How does a prisoner on suicide watch commit suicide? I suppose this is part of the reason Barr appears agitated.

Yep. I get that resources are limited, but you'd think that with someone as high a profile as Epstein that his suicide watch would have top priority.

A high-flying billionaire looking at spending the rest of his life in prison as a tawdry sex offender? Yow. This is not some punk from the hood who already has a long criminal record and would merely be rejoining his homies in prison.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:07 PM (qgh3L)

341 Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson

Understand that the reason Russian bots are all over the Internet making wild claims about a Clinton connection to the Epstein suicide is because key people in the United States and abroad know the *Trump* connection to Epstein is the one that matters, and is the real story here.

7:46 AM - 10 Aug 2019

Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:07 PM (jY1B4)

342 AG Barr: "I was appalled to learn that Jeffrey Epstein was found dead early this morning from an apparent suicide while in federal custody. Mr. Epstein's death raises serious questions that must be answered."

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:07 PM (BqBId)

343
I just watch the suicide I don't actually try to stop it.
Posted by: The suicide watch watcher


He's a suicide monitor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 01:08 PM (aKsyK)

344 It is possible that the friggin' idiot didn't have a "dead man switch". He may have thought he didn't need one.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:03 PM (gm/ta)


Then he was an idiot. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Especially in his line of work/entertainment.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:08 PM (qgh3L)

345 >>How many white nationalist are in the SDNY?

Nobody expects the White Nationalists!

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 01:09 PM (ZLI7S)

346 >>What makes anyone believe Epstein is actually dead now?


He looked pretty Blue in that ER photo.

Perhaps he was just down, though?

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:09 PM (hqsD4)

347
...and is the real story here.


Okay, minister.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 01:10 PM (Ax1aR)

348 SDNY the home of Manhattan Media.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:10 PM (v+fx/)

349 How many white nationalist are in the SDNY?
-------------------------------------------------------------

As many as who voted for Trump?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:10 PM (NFEMn)

350 lol you know suicide watch is mostly to ensue that there is no autoerotic element to it, have to make sure they do not enjoy the suicide, embarrassing when they haul them out with a giant ol boner.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 10, 2019 01:10 PM (HALdu)

351 Here's the prison's warden although I don't know if her favourite saying is, "Empoach Foady-Fi!"
https://www.facebook.com/shirley.skipperscott

You
might want to bookmark that to reply/retweet to any dicks claiming that
Trump had it done or Putin for Trump through the system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Metropolitan_Correctional_
Center,_New_York

Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2019 01:10 PM (Dh1wo)

352 and now we are back to Epstein

Posted by: cccp3o at August 10, 2019 01:11 PM (W+ny6)

353 Then he was an idiot. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Especially in his line of work/entertainment.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:08 PM (qgh3L)


Concur. But we know the fucker was crazy. You have to be to play that game.

And honestly - credit where due - how fucking brilliant is it to off his ass on a Saturday morning ? They've got 48 hours to get ahead of this now.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:11 PM (gm/ta)

354 http://bit.ly/2MaZYWJ
*******
Brian Cates on Twitter: "@JoeNBC

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:12 PM (BqBId)

355 no white nationalists in sdny, lots of garden variety hardcore racists, but none of them are nationalists.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 10, 2019 01:12 PM (HALdu)

356 341 Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson

Understand that the reason Russian bots are all over the Internet making wild claims about a Clinton connection to the Epstein suicide is because key people in the United States and abroad know the *Trump* connection to Epstein is the one that matters, and is the real story here.

7:46 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:07 PM (jY1B4)


Christ, what crap. Clinton reportedly flew to Pedo Island 26 times, IIRC, and ditched his Secret Service detail several times to do so.

Trump again reportedly kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago for gonging on underage girls there. If true, he's probably one of the few high-profile types NOT to be involved. Hollywood and the upper reaches of the Democrat Party are excellent bets to be neck-deep in this crap, which is very much their style. See, e.g., Spitzer, Weiner, Weinstein et al.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:12 PM (qgh3L)

357 Zerohedge says
The apparent suicide comes just hours aftera
massive trove of documents was unsealed in a case linked to Epstein, in
which one of his victims said she was forced to perform sex acts with
high profile individuals, including

former Maine Sen. George Mitchell (D), former New Mexico Gov. Bill

Richardson (D), money manager Glenn Dubin and MIT professor Marvin

Minsky.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:12 PM (WdocV)

358 Yeah - we're gonna' need you to hang yourself on suicide watch on a Saturday ...

Posted by: New York Suicide Manager at August 10, 2019 01:12 PM (gm/ta)

359 >>And honestly - credit where due - how fucking brilliant is it to off his ass on a Saturday morning ?



Call me when the lead investigation is handed off to the parks Department.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:13 PM (hqsD4)

360 'He hit himself over the head with a toilet seat and drowned'
=====

Probably happened while he was forced to drink from the toilet.

Posted by: AOC at August 10, 2019 01:14 PM (xSo9G)

361 Pruno is a helluva drug.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:14 PM (hqsD4)

362 Hollywood and the Dem Party are owned by Manhattan Media.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:14 PM (v+fx/)

363 Comment from the Jizmodo article.

I hate Trump. I hate this administration. I hate the GOP. I hate the people who voted them into poser. I hate the election system that allowed this to happen. I hate the Russian government for tipping the scales in any way. I hate Mitch McConnell. I hate that horrible things are happening to people in this country, oftentimes the very people who voted for Trump, because "fuck the libs." I hate the NYT keeps trying to understand and empathize with Trump voters. I hate that journalists have just went ahead and abandoned their duty to the country in favor of clicks and ratings. I hate that Teen Vogue is the voice of reason right now.


But we are the haters.

Oh and this person should never have access to a gun. The level of mental insanity is off the charts and it has a very thin and tenuous grip on reality.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 10, 2019 01:15 PM (pw+jk)

364 Zerohedge says
The apparent suicide comes just hours aftera 
massive trove of documents was unsealed in a case linked to Epstein, in 
which one of his victims said she was forced to perform sex acts with 
high profile individuals, including 

former Maine Sen. George Mitchell (D), former New Mexico Gov. Bill 

Richardson (D), money manager Glenn Dubin and MIT professor Marvin 

Minsky.

And wasnt a Prince Edwards also somewhere in there?

Posted by: Charles Martell at August 10, 2019 01:15 PM (pD0pA)

365 Joe Scarborough should have taken a couple of teeny weeny penicillin shots after the syphilis diagnosis. His brain must look like Swiss cheese.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 10, 2019 01:16 PM (C1Lsn)

366 9 6 Jeff Goldblum?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (BmSkj)
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Brian Epstein. They called him the "Fifth Beatle."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM

Because he made teen girls cry?

Posted by: Grimaldi at August 10, 2019 01:16 PM (V/f/L)

367 And wasnt a Prince Edwards also somewhere in there?

Posted by: Charles Martell at August 10, 2019 01:15 PM (pD0pA)


Prince Andrew.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:16 PM (qgh3L)

368 He would be glowing if Russians did it.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:16 PM (Hg4NE)

369 Christ, what crap. Clinton reportedly flew to Pedo Island 26 times, IIRC, and ditched his Secret Service detail several times to do so.



Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:12 PM (qgh3L)


A guy once said, the bigger the lie, the easier it is to tell. Or something like that.

Being a self-educated Student of Human Moves, I believe he was right.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:16 PM (gm/ta)

370 and now we are back to Epstein
Posted by: cccp3o
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The precursor to sending flowers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:16 PM (CDGwz)

371 Marvin Minsky does not fit.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2019 01:17 PM (q2o38)

372 So, the Russians now have control of SDNY.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:18 PM (Hg4NE)

373 And wasnt a Prince Edwards also somewhere in there?

Posted by: Charles Martell
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Ah. An easy transference to make.

Clinton->Lewinsky->cigar->Prince Edward.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:19 PM (CDGwz)

374 Is it me, or are Epstein's lawyers mysteriously silent today?

Right?

I mean, their client is dead now because he wasn't supervised. ANY OTHER lawyer would be screaming about accountability and shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 01:01 PM (Ax1aR)

I've been in and out doing shit all day, so I haven't looked closely.

But if that's true (radio silence from his lawyers), that is pretty odd.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:19 PM (GBteo)

375 So FBI CIA or Mossad. Which agency was running Epstein?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:20 PM (v+fx/)

376 Have Epstein's lawyers ever had any dealing with the Clintons?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:21 PM (CDGwz)

377 former Maine Sen. George Mitchell (D), former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D), money manager Glenn Dubin and MIT professor Marvin Minsky.

Posted by: Charles Martell at August 10, 2019 01:15 PM (pD0pA)

Yeah, I noticed that the daily beast article failed to notify the readers of the party affiliation of the two former politicians. Also failed to mention that Epstein is / was a pretty ... generous donor to the D party.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:21 PM (GBteo)

378 Here is the story from bloomberg talking about the involvement of New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, former U.S. Senator George Mitchell and asset manager Glenn Dubin


https://tinyurl.com/yykejlsz

It just broke today so I guess we'll see.

If this is true though I think we really are about to send a large percentage of our elites to jail...


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:21 PM (WdocV)

379 >>Which agency was running Epstein?


BLM

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:21 PM (hqsD4)

380 Let all Epstein's secrets come out. I have no fear. Let it hit GOP along with the Dems.

But I have no fear of Trump being implicated. Zero.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 01:21 PM (oVJmc)

381 So, the Russians now have control of SDNY.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:18 PM (Hg4NE)


I'm probably going to start collaborating with the Russians myself. I mean, shit, you can't stop these guys. They're everywhere.

You bet your ass, I'm gonna' get my seat on this train while I still can.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:21 PM (8bA1i)

382 >> 365 Joe Scarborough should have taken a couple of teeny weeny penicillin shots

Joe can't talk right now. His mouth is full.

Posted by: Mika Brzezinski at August 10, 2019 01:22 PM (o2vOl)

383 So FBI CIA or Mossad. Which agency was running Epstein?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:20 PM (v+fx/)

They often share so the answer could easily be all of the above.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:22 PM (aRAMD)

384 MI6 might have had an interest in him.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:23 PM (v+fx/)

385 375 So FBI CIA or Mossad. Which agency was running Epstein?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:20 PM (v+fx/)

My guess would be CIA, if there is an intel connection, which is what Trumps former whatever-he-was allegedly said to Trumps team when he was interviewing for the job at they brought up the whole Epstein situation. He said, (allegedly), paraphrasing "I got a call to back off, because he worked for the intel community" I assume that call came from within in the DOJ, which would mean one of our agencies. And CIA seems to make the most sense what with the international intrigue and setting up potential blackmail all. Sounds more like spy stuff then investigatory stuff.

One would assume that the FBI would not be in the business of setting up sex trafficking rings to snare big names in blackmail worthy situations. But who knows? They did host a bunch of child porn websites for a while there to trap visitors of the sites.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:23 PM (GBteo)

386 Epstein update
The Devil is trying to figure out what to do with him,

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 01:23 PM (BbGew)

387 Take a good look at this photo of Epstein's purported body on the gurney:

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/EBnakVMWwAAvtMA.jpg

Is it just me, or is something really "off" in that picture? His head seems disproportionately larger than his body. His corpse looks like it's only about five feet long compared to the size of his head.

Weird.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 10, 2019 01:23 PM (/bGxb)

388
Because he made teen girls cry?
Posted by: Grimaldi

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Heh, yes, because he was immune to their wiles. He was gay.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:24 PM (13CQC)

389
So ... how did Epstein nominally at least whack himself? Hanging, I presume?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Poured concrete galoshes, then shot himself three times in the back of the head in a cell full of carbon monoxide after an overdose of sleeping pills.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2019 01:24 PM (Wx/+I)

390 "It was not immediately clear how Epstein could have killed himself if he was under suicide watch after being found unconscious three week ago in his cell in Metropolitan Correctional Center. He had suffered injuries to his neck in what appeared to be a suicide attempt or jailhouse assault."

https://tinyurl.com/y2yafnu8

Ah. The plot thickens. Potentially a jailhouse assault?? On a guy who's on suicide watch?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:24 PM (qgh3L)

391 341 Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson

Understand that the reason Russian bots are all over the Internet making wild claims about a Clinton connection to the Epstein suicide is because key people in the United States and abroad know the *Trump* connection to Epstein is the one that matters, and is the real story here.

7:46 AM - 10 Aug 2019

Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:07 PM (jY1B4)


Wow, that is impressive. So there really *is* a Mirror Universe.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 01:24 PM (sdi6R)

392 So FBI CIA or Mossad. Which agency was running Epstein?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:20 PM (v+fx/)

They often share so the answer could easily be all of the above.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:22 PM (aRAMD)


I have no doubt, although Israel appreciates the Trump support, that Mossad wouldn't cash Epstein's ass to cover their own in a heart-beat ... the leg-up his testimony could give Trump be damned.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:24 PM (8bA1i)

393 If this is true though I think we really are about to send a large percentage of our elites to jail...


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:21 PM (WdocV)

Seems unlikely. Minor charges, at best. The "elites" will likely lawyer up and deny, deny, deny, there will zero physical evidence and criminal statutes of limitations have likely run on any potential statutory rape charges or whatever.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:25 PM (GBteo)

394 Heh, yes, because he was immune to their wiles. He was gay.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:24 PM (13CQC)


Is that true?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:25 PM (qgh3L)

395 ...with liberty and justice for all.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:25 PM (Hg4NE)

396 The DOJ did NOT have Epstein under suicide watch
How convenient
The only person who Epstein could offer up bigger than himself was the Trump

Posted by: Kurt at August 10, 2019 01:25 PM (x/wh1)

397 Seems unlikely. Minor charges, at best. The "elites" will likely lawyer up and deny, deny, deny, there will zero physical evidence and criminal statutes of limitations have likely run on any potential statutory rape charges or whatever.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:25 PM (GBteo)


Yep. And they'll dribble (?) the ball in the back court until people forget about the whole thing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:26 PM (qgh3L)

398 Someone had a great quote yesterday about the importance of gratitude and how it is kind of the father of all other virtues. I'll hunt around online and see if I can find it....

Posted by: Max Power at August 10, 2019 01:26 PM (q177U)

399 @387 link not working. I'll try again:

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/EBnakVMWwAAvtMA.jpg

If that won't work either, just look up the image online.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 10, 2019 01:26 PM (/bGxb)

400 >>The only person who Epstein could offer up bigger than himself was the Trump

Well I'm sold.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 01:26 PM (ZLI7S)

401 ALTHOUGH, now that I think about it -- statutory rape is one of those weird crimes in a lot of states were the SoL is tolled until the girl reaches age of majority + x number of years.

Like I think in NH its tolled until the girl is 18, then the victim has something like 25 (!) years to come forward. Something like that.

But that's a fairly recent thing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:26 PM (GBteo)

402 1959: Russia has infiltrated the American government from top to bottom, the entertainment industry and schools.


The FNM talking about it: REDSCARE WITCHHUNT RASCISM

2019: Russia buying facebook ads and sending hotties to seduce tech oligarchs (and getting caught)

The FNM talking about it: THE RUSSIANS ARE UNDER MY BED! WE ALL GONNA DIE!


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:26 PM (WdocV)

403 Why allow the press to photograph the corpse. I thought we stopped doing that after Bonnie and Clyde got popped. Still thinking Epstein is not dead.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (v+fx/)

404 Kurt


Your mother called.


You lunch is ready.

Bread crust trimmed, just the way you like it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (cqNba)

405 Yep. And they'll dribble (?) the ball in the back court until people forget about the whole thing.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:26 PM (qgh3L)

Or do a quiet pay off + confidentiality agreement situation.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (GBteo)

406 MI6 might have had an interest in him.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:23 PM (v+fx/)

If they could deal with Diana in Paris, they would have no trouble with Epstein in NY. Could have contracted it out to the Irish mob in exchange for leniency for an IRA bomber back in Belfast.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (NFEMn)

407 link not working. I'll try again:
***

Use tinyurl.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (WdocV)

408 If this is true though I think we really are about to send a large percentage of our elites to jail...


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:21 PM (WdocV)

Do you really believe this?

Epstein was just whacked in a federal facility and he is hardly the first. We know the FBI is corrupt, the GOP are gutless, and the Democrats are lions.

They aren't going to arrest themselves.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (aRAMD)

409 And I thought today started whacky with the Dayton shooters sister was a trans -guy but not totally out of the closet.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (BbGew)

410 ...with liberty and justice for all.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:25 PM (Hg4NE)

====
Some are just more all than others.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (pw+jk)

411 So anyone blame Climate Change for Epstein's death yet?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (WdocV)

412
Is that true?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

=======

Virtually the first time I read of Brian Epstein, I read he was gay. Read it every time after that. I don't see why it wouldn't be.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (13CQC)

413 *Democrats are loons*

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (aRAMD)

414 The DOJ did NOT have Epstein under suicide watch
How convenient


Numb nuts: that sort of thing is in the purview of whoever is running the institution. Surprisingly enough, the DoJ does not supervise the mess hall and choose the menu, either.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (qgh3L)

415 The FNM talking about it: THE RUSSIANS ARE UNDER MY BED! WE ALL GONNA DIE!
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:26 PM (WdocV)


Not me. Better Red than Dead. This ADIBAS shit looks good on me. 'Sup Vlad ? You my homey !!!

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (8bA1i)

416 I think he was gay.

I also wonder why some find it difficult to see him as simply a big time pimp instead of govt intrigue machinations.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (Hg4NE)

417 " Why allow the press to photograph the corpse. I thought we stopped doing that after Bonnie and Clyde got popped. Still thinking Epstein is not dead."


Didn't we just charge a SAEL with posing with a dead enemy?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (cqNba)

418 >>The only person who Epstein could offer up bigger than himself was the Trump

Well I'm sold.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 01:26 PM (ZLI7S)

That would precisely be the reason why Epstein WOULDN'T be killed. If he was going to serve up Trump, they would have had two guards in the room with him at all times....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (NFEMn)

419 also, why are we acting like Epstein is some household name?

I only know of him because I'm a news junkie who remembers a big story in 2008 about a major Clinton friend/ traveling companion and donor having been sentenced to quasi-jail for soliciting an underage girl.

He's done a pretty good job of staying off the radar for most of his existence, I don't think most people had any idea who he was until the media tried to tie him to Trump recently.

In other words, he's only famous for ... well, this shit. Pedo island and all that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (GBteo)

420 Virtually the first time I read of Brian Epstein, I read he was gay. Read it every time after that. I don't see why it wouldn't be.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (13CQC)


Different Epstein.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (qgh3L)

421
So anyone blame Climate Change for Epstein's death yet?

Posted by: 18-1


It was the tax cuts.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (Wx/+I)

422 we are no longer a nation of laws.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (SXMRB)

423 Someone had a great quote yesterday about the importance of gratitude and how it is kind of the father of all other virtues. I'll hunt around online and see if I can find it....
Posted by: Max Power
---------

Possibly Dennis Prager:

Because gratitude is the key to happiness, anything that undermines gratitude must undermine happiness. And nothing undermines gratitude as much as expectations. There is an inverse relationship between expectations and gratitude: The more expectations you have, the less gratitude you will have.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (CDGwz)

424 Virtually the first time I read of Brian Epstein, I read he was gay. Read it every time after that. I don't see why it wouldn't be.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (13CQC)


Which is worse?

Live girl or a dead boy?

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (aS1PU)

425 The Gardening and Puttering Thread is up. Or you can stick around here.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (BVQ+1)

426 IMO.

Most likely scenario:

Epstein was suicidal. After living extra large as a billionaire scumbag, he was going away for good this time, and he couldn't fathom that.

People want him dead so he can't talk.

So the authorities put him on suicide watch for appearances' sake but don't plan to do anything to stop him. As Ace indicated, they took suicide watch literally.

Now, a lot of "important" people are safe and no crimes were committed to achieve that.

My 2 cents.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (kKL3y)

427 Which is worse?

Live girl or a dead boy?
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (aS1PU)


Strike that. Reverse it.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (aS1PU)

428 Epstein was just whacked in a federal facility and he is hardly the
first. We know the FBI is corrupt, the GOP are gutless, and the
Democrats are lions.

***

So on the one hand, the fact that they whacked a guy this blatantly, likely at the last minute, says that they are feeling the heat.


But yes, the other hand is that they've been doing this since the 90s at least and not one person has gotten anything worse then a firing from their government job (before being hired by Soros or the like).



Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (WdocV)

429 Why allow the press to photograph the corpse. I thought we stopped doing that after Bonnie and Clyde got popped. Still thinking Epstein is not dead."
------------------------------------------------------------

Ha mate, that's a good one. This is the NY Post.

Posted by: John Lennon's Corpse at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (NFEMn)

430 So anyone blame Climate Change for Epstein's death yet?



Posted by: 18-1



It was the tax cuts.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (Wx/+I)


Net Neutrality.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (8bA1i)

431 Numb nuts: that sort of thing is in the purview of whoever is running the institution. Surprisingly enough, the DoJ does not supervise the mess hall and choose the menu, either.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (qgh3L)

Federal Bureau of Prisons runs the MCC.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:31 PM (GBteo)

432 >>>Virtually the first time I read of Brian Epstein, I read he was gay. Read it every time after that. I don't see why it wouldn't be.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (13CQC)


Brian Epstein is a 3 dollar bill, no question.
I think Jeffrey Epstein was too.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:31 PM (Hg4NE)

433
Different Epstein.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

=====

????

See #366

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:31 PM (13CQC)

434
If it was a facility in Oregon, Epstein would have burned to death pumping his own gas in his cell.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2019 01:31 PM (Wx/+I)

435 In other words, he's only famous for ... well, this shit. Pedo island and all that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Same here. It's not as though the guy achieved something meaningful in life.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:31 PM (xSo9G)

436 403 Why allow the press to photograph the corpse. I thought we stopped doing that after Bonnie and Clyde got popped. Still thinking Epstein is not dead.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (v+fx/)


It would be awesome if the suicide was a hoax and he was hustled off into the Witness Protection Program.

But we never get that lucky.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 01:31 PM (sdi6R)

437
2) Epstein wanted to commit suicide and someone in the prison wanted Epstein to commit suicide as well and allowed/help him to do so.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:05 PM (WdocV)

Bingo. I think this is the Occam's razor solution.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 01:31 PM (kKL3y)

438 Kurt spends his time splitting conspiracies with his mind.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 01:31 PM (oVJmc)

439 Didn't we just charge a SAEL with posing with a dead enemy?
***

Is that the one were Trump had to personally intervene?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:32 PM (WdocV)

440 The people and intel agency who bankrolled him did it.

Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 01:32 PM (QwmrN)

441 Why allow the press to photograph the corpse. I thought we stopped doing that after Bonnie and Clyde got popped. Still thinking Epstein is not dead."
-------------------------------------------------------------

The Post published a photo of John Lennon dead in 1980

Posted by: HoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:32 PM (NFEMn)

442 Epstein got a sweetheart deal from a GOP FL state administration
And from a GOP federal (Bush) admin
Trump later rewarded that Federal prosecutor with a post in his cabinet

Why ? To protect Bill Clinton ?
Are you delusional
It was always the GOP

Posted by: Kurt at August 10, 2019 01:32 PM (x/wh1)

443 Surprisingly enough, the DoJ does not supervise the mess hall and choose the menu, either.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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But, Donald Trump is responsible for the toilets!

Posted by: AOC at August 10, 2019 01:32 PM (xSo9G)

444 >>>667 How in the fuck does the most important #1 witness in the country get killed/suicided in custody?

At least the #1 witness wasn't shot live on TV like Oswald was in '63.

Posted by: Speller at August 10, 2019 01:32 PM (pSotA)

445 Josh Lederman
@JoshNBCNews

Multiple officials tell @NBCNews that Epstein had been on suicide watch but was taken off suicide watch prior to his apparent death by suicide this morning

9:11 AM - 10 Aug 2019

Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (jY1B4)

446 http://bit.ly/2KBUXDj
******
Joy Ann Reid is repeatedly using her show this AM to suggest AG Bill Barr may be connected to Epstein's death.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (BqBId)

447 The Post published a photo of John Lennon dead in 1980


Yoko was RIGHT THERE!!!!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (oVJmc)

448 Kurt.

Shut up, and finish your sandwich.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (cqNba)

449 387 repost: Take a good look at this photo of Epstein's purported body on the gurney (this link should work ):

https://tinyurl.com/y5wlclhd

Is
it just me, or is something really "off" in that picture? His head
seems disproportionately larger than his body. His corpse looks like
it's only about five feet long compared to the size of his head.

Weird.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (/bGxb)

450 >> 402 THE RUSSIANS ARE UNDER MY BED!

Hockey player or ballerina? If it's a ballerina, I can take it from here.

Posted by: 40 miles north at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (o2vOl)

451 Q: What's the difference between arguing with Kurt and disagreeing with a fetid pile of shit?

A: Arguing and disagreeing aren't the same thing

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (uEbPt)

452 How in the fuck does the most important #1 witness in the country get killed/suicided in custody?

***

How does a DC staffer who just leaked that Hillary Clinton stole the Dem nomination get whacked and there is no investigation?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (WdocV)

453 426: most likely

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2019 01:34 PM (89T5c)

454
IMO.

Most likely scenario:

Epstein was suicidal. After living extra large as a billionaire scumbag, he was going away for good this time, and he couldn't fathom that.

People want him dead so he can't talk.

So the authorities put him on suicide watch for appearances' sake but don't plan to do anything to stop him. As Ace indicated, they took suicide watch literally.

....


My 2 cents.
Posted by: chique d'afrique

=======

That's where I drop off. INCOMPETENCE. It's probably beyond belief in our unionized public servants.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:34 PM (13CQC)

455 It has become clear that the one change that should have come out of all the stuff the RCC did in the 60s would have been to allow for married priests.

Presumably that would have stopped the lavender mafia from taking over the RCC in the west.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (WdocV)

Because no married people ever commit adultery or molest children.

Posted by: clutch at August 10, 2019 01:34 PM (Z3oWA)

456
Is it appropriate to discuss planting Epstein in the Gardening Thread?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2019 01:34 PM (Wx/+I)

457 he Post published a photo of John Lennon dead in 1980


Yoko was RIGHT THERE!!!!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (oVJmc)

Yoko featured a photo off the bloody glasses Lennon was wearing when he was shot---ON AN ALBUM COVER.

Posted by: HoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:34 PM (NFEMn)

458 Not to reply to the troll, but the deal was from the county prosecutor in florida (democrat) and the local sheriffs office (sheriff was elected democrat). The local townie PD (not elected position) was pissed.

The feds just agreed to not pursue charges as part of Epstein's plea with the county prosecutor, which is pretty standard stuff.

The FL state government wasn't involved at all, as that's not how criminal procedure in most states typically work.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:34 PM (GBteo)

459 >>It was always the GOP

Good call. That explains why Trump's DOJ went after this case and reopened it years after it was settled. He wanted to expose his past nefarious deeds but then got cold feet and had Epstein whacked.

Wheels within wheels.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 01:34 PM (ZLI7S)

460 Harry and others - the twatterer Techno Fog has followed the Epstein case [i.e. the earlier case] and believed Epstein was an FBI informant [wasn't interested, not even sure what the targets/topics of his cooperation were supposed to be]. Anyway, as noted above, separate process scandal already in progress WRT handling of the settlement in that case, Palm Beach County handling of Epstein, etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2019 01:34 PM (QDnY+)

461 "The Devil is trying to figure out what to do with him,"
Sous Vide? or Rotisserie?

Posted by: JAS at August 10, 2019 01:35 PM (I5SAg)

462 378 Here is the story from bloomberg talking about the involvement of New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, former U.S. Senator George Mitchell and asset manager Glenn Dubin


https://tinyurl.com/yykejlsz

It just broke today so I guess we'll see.

If this is true though I think we really are about to send a large percentage of our elites to jail...


Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:21 PM (WdocV)

Broke yesterday.

Also broke:

@JohnDoe78359022

Virginia Roberts also says to the best of her knowledge, Donald Trump did not have sex with Jeffrey Epstein's "girls" and that she never saw him at Epstein's NYC mansion, New Mexico ranch, or Pedophile Island.

https://tinyurl.com/yx92qk7p

Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 01:35 PM (cF8AT)

463 BLM

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:21

What interest would the Bureau of Land Management have in Epstein?

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 10, 2019 01:35 PM (iuogb)

464 Or do a quiet pay off + confidentiality agreement situation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (GBteo)


Yep. Or both. Slow walk the whole thing while talking with the witnesses over "arrangements."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:35 PM (qgh3L)

465 Tulsi Gabbard strikes me as sane

=======
Whoopdidoo. That makes one, strenuous effort might turn up another 3. All the rest of of the Democrats are bugfuck crazy foam at the mouth traitors. That's what she'll have to staff her administration with whether she likes it or not.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at August 10, 2019 01:35 PM (dmoiP)

466 122 in NJ forensic units. if a watched person suicides, you're looking at criminal charges

Posted by: CN at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (U7k5w)

467 Josh Lederman
@JoshNBCNews

Multiple officials tell @NBCNews that Epstein had been on suicide watch but was taken off suicide watch prior to his apparent death by suicide this morning

9:11 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (jY1B4)

Well why was he taken off suicide watch?

Posted by: HoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (NFEMn)

468 Josh Lederman
@JoshNBCNews

Multiple officials tell @NBCNews that Epstein had been on suicide watch but was taken off suicide watch prior to his apparent death by suicide this morning

9:11 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (jY1B4)

Whether he died while on suicide watch or he offed himself after being taken off suicide watch, it's negligence regardless, right?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (kKL3y)

469 It's also not clear what the feds knew -- as far as I can tell from what I read, they didn't have any evidence in front of them that a federal crime was even committed. All they knew is that Epstein was accused of trying to pay a 14 year old girl for sex -- which is a state, not federal crime.

Trafficking across state lines would make it a federal crime, but I'm not sure that the feds were aware of those allegations. Sounds like the townie PD was though, but who knows if the feds talked to them at all or if the feds had any reason to distrust the florida county attorney's deal and offer.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (GBteo)

470 Hockey player or ballerina? If it's a ballerina, I can take it from here.
Posted by: 40 miles north at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (o2vOl)


Sorry slick - I got seniority on Team Russia Collusion. You'll just have to wait your turn.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (8bA1i)

471 Can't be bothered to check, hasn't FL governor already taken action to look into handling of earlier case?

Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (QDnY+)

472 351
Here's the prison's warden although I don't know if her favourite saying is, "Empoach Foady-Fi!"
https://www.facebook.com/shirley.skipperscott
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2019 01:10 PM (Dh1wo)

***********When I was at FLETC back in 95, I had a couple beers with a BOP officer who was part of Timothy McVeigh's Suicide Watch detail. He said there was a guard in a chair sitting at his cell 24/7. McVeigh literally had no privacy. They watched him sleep, eat, shit, etc.

McVeigh might have been a more high profile prisoner, considering he blew up 168 people, but Epstein was still a pretty big fish (and had already had an incident before this). Hard to believe he timed his exit to coincide with cameras going on the fritz (and apparently no one outside his cell). I am sure it was just coincidental.

Posted by: elliot at August 10, 2019 01:37 PM (1PAtI)

473 Epstein was taken off suicide watch shortly before he was killed... I mean before his suicide. His suicide!!!

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 01:37 PM (uEbPt)

474 Off HoeF. mistake nic

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:37 PM (NFEMn)

475 Him being taken off suicide watch is consistent with the theory that they allowed him to off himself.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 01:37 PM (kKL3y)

476 Officer: I gotta go pee. You're not gonna kill yourself if I leave you alone for 5 minutes, huh?
Epstein: Na. I'm fine. Go relieve yourself.

Posted by: JAS at August 10, 2019 01:37 PM (I5SAg)

477 "Well why was he taken off suicide watch?"

Reasons..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 01:37 PM (cqNba)

478 444 >>>667 How in the fuck does the most important #1 witness in the country get killed/suicided in custody?

At least the #1 witness wasn't shot live on TV like Oswald was in '63.

Posted by: Speller at August 10, 2019 01:32 PM (pSotA)


We're a lot more sophisticated now.
But you must admit that Jack Ruby death was pretty slick.

Posted by: DeepState at August 10, 2019 01:38 PM (Hg4NE)

479 468: depends on the documentation

Posted by: CN at August 10, 2019 01:38 PM (U7k5w)

480 Well why was he taken off suicide watch?
Posted by: HoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (NFEMn)


He was a "Shy Suicider". Some guys also can't take a piss if other people are around. Meh - to each their own.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:38 PM (8bA1i)

481 They put him on suicide monitor.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 01:38 PM (ZLI7S)

482 Of course, if it weren't the Clintons, we will know because there will be a full drive to pin it on them.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2019 01:38 PM (q2o38)

483 What happens in SDNY stays in SDNY.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:39 PM (v+fx/)

484 Posted by: Kurt at August 10, 2019 01:25 PM (x/wh1)

It is utterly characteristic of people who've only been in menial positions of no authority to think that people running an outfit personally attend to every effing detail of everything that goes on beneath them, as if they have nothing else to do.

Newsflash: SecDef does not go around inspecting barracks. SecState does not issue passports. SecTreas does not count up tax receipts. AG does not prosecute cases. Your mom does not short-arm inspect the patrons of the Bunny Ranch. No, wait, yeah she does. My mistake.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:39 PM (qgh3L)

485 Bloomberg TicToc
@tictoc
UPDATE: Jeffrey Epstein was taken off suicide watch just hours before he killed himself, said a person familiar with the matter

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:39 PM (BqBId)

486 They always like to include Trump calling Epstein a 'great guy.' They never like to include the rest of the quote that blows the whistle on Epstein and the young girls.

What was Trump supposed to do then? He was a private citizen. He knows the scumbags close to Epstein. If he repeats the rumors, he gets sued. Maybe targeted by his powerful friends (like the Clintons).

But if he was Epstein's crony (or had been), does he even mention such a thing, publicly, to reporters? Hell, no, he doesn't.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 01:39 PM (oVJmc)

487 They put him on suicide monitor.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 01:38 PM (ZLI7S)


Suicide Mentoring, really.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:39 PM (8bA1i)

488 471 Can't be bothered to check, hasn't FL governor already taken action to look into handling of earlier case?
Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (QDnY+)

There was a statement about looking in to it.

But like -- to what end? Prosecutors have widddeeee discretion on how they carry out their jobs.

And it's an elected position. I don't know if FL has a way for the governor to fire a prosecutor, but the states I'm familiar with do not.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:40 PM (GBteo)

489 My guess is those who were in the suicide watch and up the chain of command didn't want to know what Epstein knew.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 01:40 PM (BbGew)

490 The important thing is that the Government gets their taxes, now.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:40 PM (hqsD4)

491 Well why was he taken off suicide watch?
Posted by: HoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (NFEMn)


Manpower issues. It was very inconvenient.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2019 01:40 PM (q2o38)

492 Marked safe from the Deep State/Clinton Mafia

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:40 PM (BqBId)

493

They took off Epstein from Suicide Watch to Suicide Countdown?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 01:41 PM (Ax1aR)

494 Epstein wanted to commit suicide...

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 01:31 PM (kKL3y)

Epstein said someone tried to kill him, not that he tried to kill himself.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:41 PM (aRAMD)

495 Virginia Roberts also says to the best of her knowledge, Donald Trump did not have sex with Jeffrey Epstein's "girls" and that she never saw him at Epstein's NYC mansion, New Mexico ranch, or Pedophile Island.

https://tinyurl.com/yx92qk7p
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 01:35 PM (cF8AT)

Then Epstein must have brought his baby prostitutes to that party at Trump's place!

TRUMP IS GUILTY!

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 01:41 PM (kKL3y)

496 They took off Epstein from Suicide Watch to Suicide Countdown?


Suicide Pay-Per-View

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 01:41 PM (oVJmc)

497 Virtually the first time I read of Brian Epstein, I read he was gay. Read it every time after that. I don't see why it wouldn't be.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:28 PM (13CQC)

Urban legend has it that when the Beatles recorded "Baby You're a Rich Man" , they switched up the chorus that said "Baby, you're a rich man, too! to "Baby, You're a Rich Fag Jew!" in reference to Brian Epstein.

I'm not making this up.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:41 PM (NFEMn)

498 I'm sorry - it's just Nixon - and this god-damned war !!!

Posted by: Jeff Epstein at August 10, 2019 01:42 PM (8bA1i)

499 Epstein said someone tried to kill him, not that he tried to kill himself.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:41 PM (aRAMD)

Hmmm. That's one hole in my theory, I guess.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 01:42 PM (kKL3y)

500 468 Josh Lederman
@JoshNBCNews

Multiple officials tell @NBCNews that Epstein had been on suicide watch but was taken off suicide watch prior to his apparent death by suicide this morning

9:11 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:33 PM (jY1B4)

Whether he died while on suicide watch or he offed himself after being taken off suicide watch, it's negligence regardless, right?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 01:36 PM (kKL3y)


You can always trust NBC
to be on the money.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:42 PM (Hg4NE)

501 "Epstein looked just fine to us", reported the two designated men on overnight suicide watch, Raymond Charles and Steven Wonder.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (uEbPt)

502 Manpower issues. It was very inconvenient.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2019 01:40 PM (q2o3

Again, to repeat myself from upthread -- it's very possible that that is true.

A lot of people try to get on suicide watch for various bullshit reasons (to get away from a cellmate, to get out of gen pop temporarily, etc.), a lot of inmates are truly despondent / close to suicidal, and, well, no prison can have a 1:1 ratio of guards to prisoners, so...

Yeah. It is a problem. As I mentioned, a good friend of mine is involved in a lawsuit trying to sue a state in new england for the way their prisons handle suicidal inmates, since it's been a real issue of inmates displaying CLEARLY troubling behavior (including suicide attempts) then basically being put in a cell alone with a guard who walks by every few hours and many of them do end up killing themselves and the prison system shrugs and says "well, maybe if the legislature gave us more money we could do more about it, but ya know..."

You k now, typical government /union bullshit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (GBteo)

503 Buyer : I like it. What do they call it?

Realtor : Ah...they call it... Pedophile Island.

Buyer : Really?

Realtor : Yep. It's on all the maps.



Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (hqsD4)

504 I'm finally where the Clintons can't get to me.

Posted by: Zombie Jeff Epstein at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (cqNba)

505 Mike Balsamo
@MikeBalsamo1

NEW YORK (AP) - Jeffrey Epstein had been taken off suicide watch before he killed himself, a person familiar with the matter says.

10:05 AM - 10 Aug 2019

Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (jY1B4)

506 Be aggressive. BE aggressive ! BE AGGRESSIVE !!! YAY !!!

Posted by: The SDNY Suicide Cheer Squad at August 10, 2019 01:44 PM (8bA1i)

507 Him being taken off suicide watch is consistent with the theory that they allowed him to off himself.


I am inclined toward your point of view.

Also, "they" must be all of them. In an institution with an audit trail of decisions and movements it can't be seen as a hit by anyone who would be bothered by that.

I figure it's the government equivalent of a Mafia hit, if you have no objections I have no objections.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 10, 2019 01:45 PM (fuK7c)

508 The Clintons must be devastated.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:45 PM (hqsD4)

509 Epstein said someone tried to kill him, not that he tried to kill himself.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:41 PM (aRAMD)

That's what he told his friends. Probably embarrassed that he failed to kill himself.

Apparently his cell mate, (who, incidentally sounds like a great guy -- former cop who may or may not have kidnapped and murder 4 people) alerted the guards and they saved Epstein's life.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:45 PM (GBteo)

510 NEW YORK (AP) - Jeffrey Epstein had been taken off suicide watch before he killed himself, a person familiar with the matter says.

10:05 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (jY1B4)

Did they say to him, "Hey Jeff, you're on your own. The Suicide watch has been lifted. See you later..."

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:45 PM (NFEMn)

511
Haha, this literally happened!

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?
title=Suicide_watch&oldid=910216208

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:46 PM (13CQC)

512 >> 470 Sorry slick - I got seniority on Team Russia Collusion.
>> You'll just have to wait your turn.

Dude, she's obviously a Mossad honey pot. You'd better leave this to me.

Posted by: 40 miles north at August 10, 2019 01:46 PM (o2vOl)

513 BNL NEWS @BreakingNLive
BREAKING: Two guards at the MCC who normally have overnight shift that watches over suicide risk inmates, were both told to leave area 3 hours earlier for scheduled "Maintenance" to jail cells and hallways. This morning Epstein was found dead
******
Things getting curiouser & curiouser

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:47 PM (BqBId)

514
NEW YORK (AP) - Jeffrey Epstein had been taken off suicide watch before he killed himself, a person familiar with the matter says.


This ^^
This is the kind of thing that would normally have the dead client's lawyers apoplectic.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 01:47 PM (Ax1aR)

515 So - let me get this straight ? The script calls for the intel op running the pedo ring to get arrested, go on suicide watch, and still hang himself in jail ?

Look - I've directed some sketchy shit, OK ? It pays the bills. But no. No fucking way. No. Thank. You.

Posted by: John Carpenter at August 10, 2019 01:47 PM (8bA1i)

516 We're a lot more sophisticated now.
But you must admit that Jack Ruby death was pretty slick.
Posted by: DeepState at August 10, 2019 01:38 PM (Hg4NE)


Even better was the Joe Colombo hit. His murderer got smoked right on the spot. EOM.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:47 PM (qgh3L)

517 He was wicked. He prospered. He died old.

Posted by: Epitaph Inc. at August 10, 2019 01:47 PM (vqIkG)

518 Scullery maid, she is.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:48 PM (Hg4NE)

519 >>Also, "they" must be all of them. In an institution with an audit trail of decisions and movements it can't be seen as a hit by anyone who would be bothered by that.

Should be easy enough to figure out who gave the order to have the suicide watch removed and why.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 01:48 PM (ZLI7S)

520 >>BREAKING: Two guards at the MCC who normally have overnight shift that watches over suicide risk inmates, were both told to leave area 3 hours earlier for scheduled "Maintenance" to jail cells and hallways. This morning Epstein was found dead


Everybody out!

The Legitimate Floor Waxing Company is here to legitimately wax the floors.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:48 PM (hqsD4)

521 508 The Clintons must be devastated.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:45 PM (hqsD4)


They sent flowers. Which were ordered yesterday.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:48 PM (qgh3L)

522

Apparently going "off" suicide watch includes the prison guards returning all the necessary items one need to commit suicide.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 01:48 PM (Ax1aR)

523 If Manhattan is to be our Rome then I expect gladiators and dancing girls. But all I get is queers reading news.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:49 PM (v+fx/)

524 Haha, this literally happened! 

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? 
title=Suicide_watch&oldid=910216208

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:46 PM (13CQC)

Someone has a sense of humor.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:49 PM (aRAMD)

525 Should be easy enough to figure out who gave the order to have the suicide watch removed and why.


Right, that's my point. He has to know that there's not going to be a witch hunt. He'll have a reason and others in the food chain will back that reason and nobody will burn for the unfortunate suicide that doesn't bother anyone.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 10, 2019 01:49 PM (fuK7c)

526 >>The Legitimate Floor Waxing Company is here to legitimately wax the floors.

Wax On, Whack Off

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 01:49 PM (ZLI7S)

527 Evidently you are tired of hearing this "baby boomer" shit. I know I am. Most baby boomers served honorably in Vietnam or over in Germany. I am a Nam vet and a baby boomer. How many in the current generation can claim to be a war vet. Personally I think the so-called "greatest generation" was the worst. They elected FDR 4 times.
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (mpXpK


I am sick into death of that idiocy. No one, anywhere, EVER did anything wrong in the whole history of the world, before the so-called "boomers."

Shows the ignorance, stupidity, small-mindedness and flaccid soul of the speaker.

I did not write what I "really feel" about people who spout that nonsense. I already have enough to confess this evening after Vespers.

Now DH and I are at beautiful State Park. We are putting away our handheld computing devices and will enjoy the rest of our day.

Have a wonderful day, Horde. To the soulless, assinine ... Get lost.
Posted by: Flyover, on my handheld computing device at August 10, 2019 12:06 PM (wfWN5)


Boomers reacting so defensively makes me laugh every fucking time. I'm a boomer and readily own up that my generation was top loaded with worthless pieces of shit and richly deserves being characterized as such. That doesn't define me or any other individual here; you can think of me as you want.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2019 01:50 PM (y7DUB)

528 Everybody out!

The Legitimate Floor Waxing Company is here to legitimately wax the floors.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:48 PM (hqsD4)

haha. I just picture the "pet washing van" in arrested development, complete with fake dogs.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:50 PM (GBteo)

529 told to leave area 3 hours earlier for scheduled "Maintenance" to jail cells and hallways. This morning Epstein was found dead
******
Things getting curiouser & curiouser
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:47 PM (BqBId)

Yeah, maintenance. The family has a lot of "maintenance", Senator.

Posted by: Willie Cicci at August 10, 2019 01:50 PM (Z+IKu)

530
Even better was the Joe Colombo hit. His murderer got smoked right on the spot. EOM.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:47 PM (qgh3L)

If I recall, it was some black dude who was hired to kill Columbo...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:51 PM (NFEMn)

531 Apparently going "off" suicide watch includes the prison guards returning all the necessary items one need to commit suicide.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 01:48 PM (Ax1aR)

Yep. Sheets, shoelaces (if the federal system allows shoe laces, I don't know if they do tbh), belts, whatever.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:51 PM (GBteo)

532 494
Epstein said someone tried to kill him, not that he tried to kill himself.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:41 PM (aRAMD)


I dimly recall reading that. I wonder why the first attempt didn't succeed. Was the killer interrupted somehow?

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 01:51 PM (sdi6R)

533 I agree with the black chick. Benign neglect to let nature take it's course is the most likely answer. Call it environmentally facilitated Arkancide.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 10, 2019 01:51 PM (87EdW)

534 They put Epstein in Schrodinger's Jail Cell.

When a guard looks in the cell, he sees the Epstein either alive or dead, not both alive and dead. This poses the question of when exactly quantum Arkancide ends and reality collapses into one possibility or the other.

Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2019 01:51 PM (786Ro)

535 Kurt Schlichter
@KurtSchlichter
The great Ace of Spades definitively dissects the Fredocons' superficial excuses for The Hunt.

It's glorious.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:52 PM (BqBId)

536 BNL NEWS @BreakingNLive 
BREAKING: Two guards at the MCC who normally have overnight shift that watches over suicide risk inmates, were both told to leave area 3 hours earlier for scheduled "Maintenance" to jail cells and hallways. This morning Epstein was found dead 
****** 
Things getting curiouser & curiouser

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:47 PM (BqBId)

This is just getting better and better.

Totally coincidental I am sure.

This is like something out of some mafia movie!

...except it's real and they are in charge.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:52 PM (aRAMD)

537 How in the fuck does the most important #1 witness in the country get killed/suicided in custody?

***

How does a DC staffer who just leaked that Hillary Clinton stole the Dem nomination get whacked and there is no investigation?
Posted by: 18-1
-------

How is it that Hillary Clinton gets to go through Vince Foster's office and remove files before the FBI investigates?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:52 PM (xSo9G)

538 Lots of Leftists Tweeting its President Trump who is relieved Epstein is dead.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 01:52 PM (BbGew)

539 You can always trust NBC
to be on the money.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:42 PM (Hg4NE)

Good point.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 01:53 PM (kKL3y)

540 Evidently you are tired of hearing this "baby boomer" shit. I know I
am.
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (mpXp0


They didn't even have a concept of "generations" when Vic got here. It was all just So-And-So begat Such-And-Such.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:53 PM (8bA1i)

541 Lots of Leftists Tweeting its President Trump who is relieved Epstein is dead.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 01:52 PM (BbGew)

A lot of these poor souls might be on suicide watch if Trump wins re-election next year...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:53 PM (NFEMn)

542 Should be easy enough to figure out who gave the order to have the suicide watch removed and why.


This.

Yesterday he was suicidal, but today he's whistling a happy tune? OK. Take him off suicide watch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:54 PM (qgh3L)

543 According to AG Barr's statement, the FBI and the Inspector General are opening up investigations into Epstein's death.

So they either strongly suspect--or know--something.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 10, 2019 01:54 PM (/bGxb)

544 This van may have been seen leaving the scene at a high rate of speed.

https://tinyurl.com/yxfh33kv

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 01:54 PM (GBteo)

545 A lot of these poor souls might be on suicide watch if Trump wins re-election next year...
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:53 PM (NFEMn)


I suppose PPV is out of the question?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:55 PM (qgh3L)

546 That Was Quick: #ClintonBodyCount Is Trending on Twitter Following Epstein's Death

Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2019 01:55 PM (e8kgV)

547 >>>NEW YORK (AP) - Jeffrey Epstein had been taken off suicide watch before he killed himself, a person familiar with the matter says.

10:05 AM - 10 Aug 2019

Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (jY1B4)



You may obtain a FISA warrant with that testimony.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:55 PM (Hg4NE)

548 >>This van may have been seen leaving the scene at a high rate of speed.


Blendin Dog Grooming!

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:55 PM (hqsD4)

549 Didn't Vic kill his brother Abel?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 01:56 PM (v+fx/)

550 According to AG Barr's statement, the FBI and the Inspector General are opening up investigations into Epstein's death.

So they either strongly suspect--or know--something.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 10, 2019 01:54 PM (/bGxb)


Meh - or it's like the collusion investigation - all designed to give cover to the coup.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 01:56 PM (8bA1i)

551 >>>NEW YORK (AP) - Jeffrey Epstein had been taken off suicide watch before he killed himself, a person familiar with the matter says.

10:05 AM - 10 Aug 2019

Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (jY1B4)

Well, if he wasn't, he was certainly taken OFF suicide watch after he suicided....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 01:56 PM (NFEMn)

552 >>I suppose PPV is out of the question?


Conveniently - All of Bill Clinton's Genital Warts have an alibi.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:57 PM (hqsD4)

553 I dimly recall reading that. I wonder why the first attempt didn't succeed. Was the killer interrupted somehow?

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 01:51 PM (sdi6R)

Hard to say. The biggest problem is that most of our information is coming from the same people involved in killing the guy or trying to cover up their own incompetence.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 01:57 PM (aRAMD)

554 536 BNL NEWS @BreakingNLive
BREAKING: Two guards at the MCC who normally have overnight shift that watches over suicide risk inmates, were both told to leave area 3 hours earlier for scheduled "Maintenance" to jail cells and hallways. This morning Epstein was found dead.
******
Things getting curiouser & curiouser

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 01:47 PM (BqBId)


I'm surprised that they didn't just turn him loose as long as he promised to come back after the maintenance was completed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:57 PM (qgh3L)

555 The Clintons are the luckiest people on the planet?

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 01:58 PM (BbGew)

556 They didn't even have a concept of "generations" when Vic got here. It was all just So-And-So begat Such-And-Such.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things
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Yeah, it was all, "This tribe did this, that tribe did that".

Though I, personally, hold the Assyrians responsible for most of the world's problems.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:58 PM (xSo9G)

557 This van may have been seen leaving the scene at a high rate of speed.

Rate of speed? An ... acceleration?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 01:58 PM (qgh3L)

558 He was whistling Dixie.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:58 PM (Hg4NE)

559 I'm finally where the Clintons can't get to me.
Posted by: Zombie Jeff Epstein at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM



Nah, bro. They have reservations. You'll see them again.

Posted by: Hell's Booking Service at August 10, 2019 01:58 PM (786Ro)

560 Epstein was dead before he got there.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 01:58 PM (uEbPt)

561 The Clintons are the luckiest people on the planet?
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 01:58 PM (BbGew)

Ummmmmm....yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2019 01:59 PM (Z+IKu)

562 The Clintons are the luckiest people on the planet?

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 01:58 PM (BbGew)

More like unlucky. So many close friends dying untimely deaths?

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 01:59 PM (uEbPt)

563 555- fortune favors the bold (brazen even)

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 10, 2019 01:59 PM (87EdW)

564 "Yesterday he was suicidal, but today he's whistling a happy tune? OK. Take him off suicide watch."Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

they say when people are depressed they may think about suicide. When they have really made up their mind to do it, they become "happier" ... their worries are over.


(that may or may not apply in this case ... maybe he had cut a deal and thought he'd live out his years in country club prison, DeepState operative informed the Bosses that he had cut a deal, so now he's dead ... idk, lots of possible scenarios)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 01:59 PM (Cus5s)

565 The Clintons are the luckiest people on the planet?
Posted by: Skip
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For certain values of 'luck'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 01:59 PM (xSo9G)

566 It's Reuters so who knows but:

Despite that, Epstein had been taken off suicide watch, a special set of procedures for inmates deemed in danger of taking their own life, a source familiar with the matter told Reuters. He was on suicide watch as late as Thursday, the source said.

snip~

At the MCC, two jail guards are required to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed overnight, according to the source, who was not authorized to speak on the record.

In addition, every 15 minutes guards are required to make another check on prisoners who are on suicide watch.

https://tinyurl.com/yy7sgool



Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 02:00 PM (cF8AT)

567 Haha, this literally happened!

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?
title=Suicide_watch&oldid=910216208
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:46 PM (13CQC)

I LOL'd.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at August 10, 2019 02:01 PM (kKL3y)

568 >>Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 01:46 PM (13CQC)


Hahahaha

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:03 PM (hqsD4)

569 From PJM:

"Everyone is so surprised that Epstein committed suicide ... just imagine how surprised HE was."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 02:04 PM (qgh3L)

570 More fluff?

At the MCC, two jail guards are required to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed overnight, according to the source, who was not authorized to speak on the record.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 02:04 PM (Hg4NE)

571 527
Boomers reacting so defensively makes me laugh every fucking time. I'm a boomer and readily own up that my generation was top loaded with worthless pieces of shit and richly deserves being characterized as such. That doesn't define me or any other individual here; you can think of me as you want.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2019 01:50 PM (y7DUB)


I'm a boomer, and I don't take it personally. My attitude is that every generation has its share of winners and losers, heroes and villains. People are individuals. It's silly and stupid to claim that an entire generation is either one or the other. I've also been known to stick up for millennials when they're painted with a broad brush, too.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 02:05 PM (sdi6R)

572 "Everyone is so surprised that Epstein committed suicide ... just imagine how surprised HE was."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Meh, lie down with dogs, get up with...well, you don't get up. Ask Buddy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2019 02:05 PM (xSo9G)

573 >>"Everyone is so surprised that Epstein committed suicide ... just imagine how surprised HE was."


St Peter : I'm sorry, my son, but you can't come in.

Epstein : WTF, man. I'm here. I waited in line. Let me in!

St Peter : I can't. Suicide is a Sin.

Epstein : Yeah, so?

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:05 PM (hqsD4)

574 From W examiner:

Senior law enforcement officials reported that Epstein's death would be investigated by the FBI, which is not typical of prison suicide deaths.


Took a genius to write that.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 02:06 PM (Hg4NE)

575 Who besides Donald Trump would have the gumption to take on the folks who can make events like this happen?

To call this a legitimate suicide boggles the imagination and defies belief.


Oddly enough, I was watching the movie 'Unlocked' last night, and was inclined to think it was too far out.


Then Jason Bourne texted me to say "It's worse than you think"

/Sarc....and not snark.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 02:06 PM (cqNba)

576 This hilarious guy on YouTube (The Amazing Lucas) should be a lot more famous.

Here he is on Epstein:

https://tinyurl.com/y2hgrc87

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 02:07 PM (uEbPt)

577 >How is it that Hillary Clinton gets to go through Vince Foster's office and remove files before the FBI investigates?

Foster investigation wasn't done by the FBI. Foster's body was found in a Civil War Monument Park. Investigation was done by the Park Police. No shit.

Posted by: Speller at August 10, 2019 02:08 PM (pSotA)

578 People are individuals.
Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 02:05 PM (sdi6R)


Whatever, slick. But we are not, on no uncertain terms, taking the Irish.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 02:08 PM (8bA1i)

579 whoever had the ability to put Epstein in SuperMax and declined/refused to do it .. is in on it. Whoever disabled cameras, removed guards, ... every step that provided cover ... works for the mafia ... as does much of NY government, it appears. But those AGs are aggressively digging into all of Trump's businesses to find some way to harass the POTUS that was elected to stop the NY/DC mafia.


open borders means major flow of revenue for the mobs, not just cheap labor and votes for dems. HSBC caught laundering $2B for cartels ... no one got prosecuted. The criminal rot is deep, and global.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 02:09 PM (Cus5s)

580 I think I trust the Park Police over the FBI.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 02:09 PM (v+fx/)

581 https://washex.am/2Mes579
*******
Barr announces DOJ inspector general investigation into Epstein death
*******
Beat the flaming hair crowd, Horowitz will come #2weeks

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:10 PM (BqBId)

582 Oh this is hilarious. Daily News "news" story, HUD secretary Patton tweeted about Epstein.


Patton also added the hashtag "#VinceFosterPartTwo," referring to the baseless conspiracy theory about the gunshot-suicide of Foster in 1993 that suggests former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's involvement in the tragic death.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 10, 2019 02:11 PM (fuK7c)

583 I think I trust the Park Police over the FBI.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 02:09 PM (v+fx/)


Pretty sure I got more faith in Park Place than the FBI ... and nobody ever lands on that fucker when I own it.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 02:11 PM (8bA1i)

584 >>#VinceFosterPartTwo," referring to the baseless conspiracy theory about the gunshot-suicide of Foster in 1993 that suggests former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's involvement in the tragic death.



Suggests Involvement...YOU ARE THE FATHER!

Posted by: Jerry Springer at August 10, 2019 02:12 PM (hqsD4)

585 Elma Aksalic @ElmaAksalic
2h
#NEW: Rep. Lois Frankel (D-Fla.) calls for a congressional investigation into the death of disgraced billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, after he reportedly died of an apparent suicide in his Manhattan jail cell. (Via: @thehill)

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (BqBId)

586 Apparently there was a paperwork error and Epstein was put on the 23/7 suicide watch. Things like this happen all the time.

Posted by: Ripley at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (MxEKc)

587 >>I think I trust the Park Police over the FBI.


I trust nobody who is living for a Federal Retirement Package.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (hqsD4)

588 Epstein looked just fine to us", reported the two designated men on overnight suicide watch, Raymond Charles and Steven Wonder.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (uEbPt)

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Posted by: George Shearing and Ronnie Milsap at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (flINI)

589 #EradicateTheBoomers

Posted by: Little Lupe at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (EgshT)

590 Patton also added the hashtag "#VinceFosterPartTwo," referring to the baseless conspiracy theory
about the gunshot-suicide of Foster in 1993 that suggests former
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's involvement in the tragic death.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 10, 2019 02:11 PM (fuK7c)


True Fact - daughter submitted a twenty page or so high school paper on Vince Foster's death. I advised against it - but that fucker was forwarded all the way to the State Finals here.

I was stunned.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 02:14 PM (8bA1i)

591 #NEW: Rep. Lois Frankel (D-Fla.) calls for a congressional investigation into the death of disgraced billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, after he reportedly died of an apparent suicide in his Manhattan jail cell. (Via: @thehill)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (BqBId)

Here we go....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 02:15 PM (NFEMn)

592 Nobody ever remembers poor old Ron Brown.

Posted by: Ron Brown at August 10, 2019 02:15 PM (hqsD4)

593 From W examiner:

Senior law enforcement officials reported that Epstein's death would be investigated by the FBI, which is not typical of prison suicide deaths.

Took a genius to write that.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 02:06 PM (Hg4NE)


That's like Windows error messages: "An unexpected error occurred."

What error were they expecting?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 02:15 PM (qgh3L)

594 @TIME

Universal Pictures cancels release of 'The Hunt' following mass shootings and criticism from President Trump

Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 02:15 PM (cF8AT)

595 Posted by: Ron Brown at August 10, 2019 02:15 PM (hqsD4)
*******
Perfectly round hole in head, in plane crash, what are the chances of that & rumor was he was going to sing like a bird

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:16 PM (BqBId)

596 Nobody ever remembers poor old Ron Brown.

Posted by: Ron Brown at August 10, 2019 02:15 PM (hqsD4)

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I had your plane serviced right before it went down. Tragic

Posted by: Billy Jeff at August 10, 2019 02:16 PM (Izqrc)

597 Elma Aksalic @ElmaAksalic
2h
#NEW: Rep. Lois Frankel (D-Fla.) calls for a congressional investigation into the death of disgraced billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, after he reportedly died of an apparent suicide in his Manhattan jail cell. (Via: @thehill)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (BqBId)


Democrat movers and shakers: "For God's sake, shut that stupid bitch up!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 02:17 PM (qgh3L)

598 disgraced billionaire financier
----------------------

How about "accused pedophile ringmaster"?

Man they get their narrative and they stick to it like shoes to the strip club floor.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 02:17 PM (uEbPt)

599 My working practical theory is that everyone was happy to look the wrong way to let this happen or have happen to Epstein.

The interesting moral aspect is that in my review of the news stories I see absolutely no one outraged. No calls for stricter oversight of prisons, no political allies or former plane ride companions, no one from the Trump camp, no one from the Clinton camp, no family members, no lifelong friends, absolutely no one is calling for a thorough investigation and heads to roll.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 10, 2019 02:17 PM (fuK7c)

600 I have a feeling IF it happened the DOJ/Barr have tape of it

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:18 PM (BqBId)

601 @TIME

Universal Pictures cancels release of 'The Hunt' following mass shootings and criticism from President Trump



LOLGF

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 02:18 PM (oVJmc)

602 @TIME

Universal Pictures cancels release of 'The Hunt' following mass shootings and criticism from President Trump
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 02:15 PM



I'm a bit surprised they even bothered mentioning the shootings. Maybe for orangemanbad plausible deniability.

Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2019 02:18 PM (786Ro)

603 OT: Trump's lawn pressers are becoming so popular that he now has audience. They've had to put up a rope line. Cool.


https://tinyurl.com/y35ygkcx

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 02:19 PM (Hg4NE)

604 Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 10, 2019 02:17 PM (fuK7c)


Suicide Watch Control

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 02:19 PM (uEbPt)

605 597 Elma Aksalic @ElmaAksalic
2h
#NEW: Rep. Lois Frankel (D-Fla.) calls for a congressional investigation into the death of disgraced billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, after he reportedly died of an apparent suicide in his Manhattan jail cell. (Via: @thehill)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (BqBId)

Democrat movers and shakers: "For God's sake, shut that stupid bitch up!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 02:17 PM (qgh3L)


Time to make the popcorn.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 02:19 PM (sdi6R)

606 >>No calls for stricter oversight of prisons, no political allies or former plane ride companions, no one from the Trump camp, no one from the Clinton camp, no family members, no lifelong friends, absolutely no one is calling for a thorough investigation and heads to roll.



Nobody wants to be the next victim.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:19 PM (hqsD4)

607 absolutely no one is calling for a thorough investigation

I thought Barr called for a thorough investigation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 02:19 PM (qgh3L)

608 Suicide iWatch


Costs 5x more

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 02:19 PM (oVJmc)

609 will this investigation get "special handling" like all Clinton related crimes seem to get? Can they bring back Strzok and Comey to help? Or is the next line of special handlers already in place under Wray? ... They (deliberately) kept him out of SuperMax so he could be killed (or left to suicide himself?). Who made that choice?


Did Barr himself give the "stand down" order? idk, but if Coulter knew and warned, did Barr not have the authority to demand that? "Stand Down" seems to happen a lot, while the dirty (wet) work is being done by more special employees. It is worth than a two tiered justice system ... it is a criminal enterprise.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 02:20 PM (Cus5s)

610 #NEW: Rep. Lois Frankel (D-Fla.) calls for a congressional investigation into the death of disgraced billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, after he reportedly died of an apparent suicide in his Manhattan jail cell. (Via: @thehill)

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (BqBId)





Hillary: What part of it was a suicide and now shut up about it, doesn't she understand?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 02:21 PM (MZSrL)

611 This in an EX- pedo!

Posted by: Pedo Shop Customer at August 10, 2019 02:21 PM (oVJmc)

612 No calls for stricter oversight of prisons, no political allies or former plane ride companions, no one from the Trump camp, no one from the Clinton camp, no family members, no lifelong friends, absolutely no one is calling for a thorough investigation and heads to roll.

I think Trump is wise to stay out of this. The Reds are already trying to link him with Epstein. The more his name is associated with Epstein, the more that helps the Reds. Even if he is calling for an investigation. You just don't want your name in the same sentence with Epstein's.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 02:22 PM (qgh3L)

613 #NEW: Rep. Lois Frankel (D-Fla.) calls for a congressional investigation into the death of disgraced billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein, after he reportedly died of an apparent suicide in his Manhattan jail cell. (Via: @thehill)

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:13 PM (BqBId)


This just in: Rep. Lois Frankel (D-Fla.) has just been found drowned in her bathtub after apparently slipping and drowning in three inches of water.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 02:23 PM (qgh3L)

614 What was the catholic churches role in all of this...

Just asking the questions...

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 10, 2019 02:23 PM (flINI)

615
Apparently going "off" suicide watch includes the prison guards returning all the necessary items one need to commit suicide.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 01:48 PM (Ax1aR)

Yep. Sheets, shoelaces (if the federal system allows shoe laces, I don't know if they do tbh), belts, whatever.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

======

Best joke I've seen today on that in my nic.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 02:23 PM (13CQC)

616 >>What was the catholic churches role in all of this...


They consecrated the Prison Grounds before the Bildbergers built the facility.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:24 PM (hqsD4)

617 >>Best joke I've seen today on that in my nic.


Oh, that's a great T-Shirt

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:24 PM (hqsD4)

618 I'm a bit surprised they even bothered mentioning the shootings. Maybe for orangemanbad plausible deniability.
Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2019 02:18 PM (786Ro)


The Hunt release was cancelled for a very simple reason. The director fucked up, and Hollywood wanted to stop this shit before it got out of control.

Follow me here. Did you watch the trailer ? I did. That chic with the Mississippi accent was too good. She was gonna' be a star. I'm serious.

Hollywood has finally learned. Rorschach wasn't supposed to be a fan favorite. Neither was Dr. Paul Kersey. But finally, for once, the powers that be figured out "Oh shit, we were making fun of them, but they're proud of being like this".

The Hunt, I think, was going to hit a nerve they were scared as shit of hitting ... yet.



Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 02:25 PM (0jPyL)

619 615
Best joke I've seen today on that in my nic.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 02:23 PM (13CQC)


Heh.

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 02:27 PM (sdi6R)

620
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Posted by: George Shearing and Ronnie Milsap

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I believe that's my line.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 02:27 PM (13CQC)

621 this story is going thermonuclear, whoever "Did It' is not going to be able to sweep it under the rug

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:28 PM (BqBId)

622 Some mysterious demises just can't be explained. *shrug*

Posted by: Bubba and the Pantsuit at August 10, 2019 02:29 PM (EgshT)

623 Gee.
You'd.
Think.
They'd.
Have.
Surveillance.
Cameras.
24/7.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 02:29 PM (oVJmc)

624 Buck Sexton
@BuckSexton
If you think there is nothing more to the Epstein case than what we already know, and there's nothing strange about the timing of his suicide-

You're a coincidence theorist

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:30 PM (BqBId)

625 I think Trump is wise to stay out of this. The Reds are already trying to link him with Epstein. The more his name is associated with Epstein, the more that helps the Reds. Even if he is calling for an investigation. You just don't want your name in the same sentence with Epstein's.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 02:22 PM (qgh3L)

I highly doubt Trump has anything to hide in regards to Epstein.

Oh, on a related note -- did anyone notice that Stormy Daniels retracted her story about having sex with Trump, and the media barely covered it?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 02:32 PM (GBteo)

626 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 02:29 PM (oVJmc)

..And you'd think that the FBI records their interviews with suspects.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 02:33 PM (GBteo)

627 We like to think of it as one less canary in the coal mine.

Posted by: Bubba and the Pantsuit at August 10, 2019 02:33 PM (EgshT)

628
Oh, on a related note -- did anyone notice that Stormy Daniels retracted her story about having sex with Trump, and the media barely covered it?



Local story.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 02:33 PM (oVJmc)

629
Oh, on a related note -- did anyone notice that
Stormy Daniels retracted her story about having sex with Trump, and the
media barely covered it?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 02:32 PM (GBteo)



The MFM: Stormy who?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 02:33 PM (MZSrL)

630 BNL NEWS
@BreakingNLive
BREAKING NEWS: Jeffrey Epstein suicide apparently first suicide ever committed at MCC in New York

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:33 PM (BqBId)

631 You have to wonder what perfectly normal and innocent activities were occuring on Pedo Island and aboard the Pedo Express that required the unaccompanied 15 year old girls to give up their Cell Phones for the duration of the Trip?

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:35 PM (hqsD4)

632 Sex? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 10, 2019 02:36 PM (EgshT)

633 631 You have to wonder what perfectly normal and innocent activities were occuring on Pedo Island and aboard the Pedo Express that required the unaccompanied 15 year old girls to give up their Cell Phones for the duration of the Trip?
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:35 PM (hqsD4)

One thing I'm a bit curious about -- did no one ever notice that in FAA filings and visa applications or whatever official paperwork was being filled out to fly these young girls around the world, that a grown man (Epstein), his security, pilots, staff, guests, whoever, were flying around with a bunch of young minor children who were not related to anyone?

That's so ...weird to me.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 02:37 PM (GBteo)

634 Like no one at any customs desk or anywhere said to any of these young girls "...and how do you know these people?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 02:38 PM (GBteo)

635
Kambree Kawahine Koa @KamVTV
1h
Attorney General Bill Barr said he was appalled when he found out Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his cell. Questions: Why are they administering oxygen to a dead man? Why is he not in a black body bag?

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:39 PM (BqBId)

636 >>That's so ...weird to me.


Yeah - and I am just asking them to float a totes innocent scenario where this is cool with...oh, anyone?

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:41 PM (hqsD4)

637 Like no one at any customs desk or anywhere said to any of these young girls "...and how do you know these people?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 02:38 PM (GBteo)

Yeah one guy did and he now works at Sammy's Burger World.

Why do you ask?

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 02:41 PM (aRAMD)

638 Kambree Kawahine Koa @KamVTV
1h
Attorney General Bill Barr said he was appalled when he found out Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his cell. Questions: Why are they administering oxygen to a dead man? Why is he not in a black body bag?



He was 'found unconscious.'

Died on the way to the hospital.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 02:41 PM (oVJmc)

639 Like no one at any customs desk or anywhere said to any of these young girls "...and how do you know these people?"

We were told it was a Girl Scout cookie fundraiser. Seemed legit at the time.

Posted by: Customs at August 10, 2019 02:42 PM (EgshT)

640 Better than even money that military and NASA satellite photography of Epstein's island has been shut down.

Posted by: socalcon at August 10, 2019 02:43 PM (Roy2Z)

641 >>Died on the way to the hospital.


'Plasma!'

...

'Dog Plasma!'

...

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:44 PM (hqsD4)

642 Like no one at any customs desk or anywhere said to any of these young girls "...and how do you know these people?"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 02:38 PM (GBteo)


One of these days, you're going to figure out that The Law isn't quite what you think it is, a bunch of shit doesn't work you way you think it does, and a great big heaping pile of stuff you take for Truth is really just bullshit.

What happens next ? Who knows ? That kind of moment breaks some people. Hopefully you're ready for it when it happens. You ain't ready yet.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 02:44 PM (mOPWe)

643 Paula Reid @PaulaReidCBS
2h
Attorney General Barr is "livid" about Jeffrey Epstein death according to a source familiar. He is "determined to get to the bottom of it" and will release his own statement shortly. @CBSNews

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:44 PM (BqBId)

644
He was 'found unconscious.'



Died on the way to the hospital.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 02:41 PM (oVJmc)


Hillary: That bastard just refused to die....I mean it's tragic

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 02:45 PM (MZSrL)

645 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 02:41 PM (oVJmc)
*****
Well I would think The AG knows what happened

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:45 PM (BqBId)

646 "We like to think of it as one less canary in the coal mine"

heh ... if you shoot one singing bird on a wire, the rest stop singing, and fly away. As with Seth (imo) ... the mafia likes the public know "you better not cross us, we can get you anywhere". As if Mueller and the Coup have not already proven that.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 02:45 PM (Cus5s)

647 >>Died on the way to the hospital.


When he fell out of the back of the ambulance and was run over, accidentally, when they backed up to retrieve him.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:46 PM (hqsD4)

648 643 Paula Reid @PaulaReidCBS
2h
Attorney General Barr is "livid" about Jeffrey Epstein death according to a source familiar. He is "determined to get to the bottom of it" and will release his own statement shortly. @CBSNews

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:44 PM (BqBId)


*rustles up some popcorn*

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 02:46 PM (sdi6R)

649 *Pours 3 Fingers of Scotch*


I picked the wrong week to stop killing Federal Witnesses.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 10, 2019 02:47 PM (hqsD4)

650 One of these days, you're going to figure out that The Law isn't quite what you think it is, a bunch of shit doesn't work you way you think it does, and a great big heaping pile of stuff you take for Truth is really just bullshit.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 02:44 PM (mOPWe)

THIS

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 02:47 PM (aRAMD)

651 A woman who accused Jeffrey
Epstein of keeping her as a sex slave said one of the financier's
associates had instructed her to have sex with at least a half-dozen
prominent men, according to a court filing unsealed on Friday in a civil
lawsuit.

The claim by Virginia Giuffre
came in a deposition that was included among roughly 2,000 pages of
documents related to her defamation lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell,
the associate whom Giuffre has said helped Epstein procure girls for
sex.




Slick Willie: I heard that Virginia has been thinking about suicide lately

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 02:49 PM (MZSrL)

652 In hindsight, a father-daughter pool party might have been a bit more believable. Sigh.

Posted by: Customs at August 10, 2019 02:50 PM (EgshT)

653 Once did an HVAC job in an FBI facility back east.

Holy shit.

They are pretty fuckin' brazen about their illegal workarounds for surveilance. They literally do whatever they want and then ad hoc their way back to a loophole / permission / warrant. It's SOP, too.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:50 PM (hqsD4)

654 Has someone already posted the pic of Epstein's prison guard who is about to make a statement?


Hilarious. It's a pic of Hillary with a mustache and sunglasses.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 02:52 PM (2DOZq)

655 Has someone already posted the pic of Epstein's prison guard who is about to make a statement?

Stevie Wonder?

Posted by: Customs at August 10, 2019 02:53 PM (EgshT)

656 Hilarious. It's a pic of Hillary with a mustache and sunglasses.


Well, that would explain SO MUCH.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 02:54 PM (oVJmc)

657 I hate to be like a HotAir "writer" here, but...

On one hand, I think "the guy's ego is too big for him to cack himself."

On the other, I think he could easily be the all-or-nothing type, too.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2019 02:55 PM (5aX2M)

658

Notice how the Democrats demand Epstein's "suicide" be investigated for a conspiracy, but have no interest at all in investigating Epstein's crimes and associates.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 02:56 PM (UvpTf)

659

Notice also how the Democrats and Fake News have zero interest in justice for Epstein's young victims!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 02:56 PM (UvpTf)

660 Yeah - and I am just asking them to float a totes innocent scenario where this is cool with...oh, anyone?
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 02:41 PM (hqsD4)

Maybe he pulled the old "oh these are my nieces. Same mom, different dads" card or something?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 02:58 PM (GBteo)

661 Whoever has a bootleg copy of "The Hunt" please contact me.

Posted by: Monty James at August 10, 2019 02:58 PM (Zqz9o)

662 lol, you know someone said how they thought it was weird how epstein was hanged with two 9mm holes in his forehead.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 10, 2019 02:58 PM (HALdu)

663
Notice also how the Democrats and Fake News have zero interest in justice for Epstein's young victims!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter


If Mary Jo Kopechne were alive she would thank Teddy Kennedy for keeping abortion legal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 02:59 PM (aKsyK)

664 >>Maybe he pulled the old "oh these are my nieces. Same mom, different dads" card or something?


It is crazy. Nobody has asked. Not once.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 03:00 PM (hqsD4)

665 Whoever has a bootleg copy of "The Hunt" please contact me.


I would, but then I'd have to kill you.

Posted by: Academy Voter at August 10, 2019 03:00 PM (oVJmc)

666 One of these days, you're going to figure out that The Law isn't quite what you think it is, a bunch of shit doesn't work you way you think it does, and a great big heaping pile of stuff you take for Truth is really just bullshit.

What happens next ? Who knows ? That kind of moment breaks some people. Hopefully you're ready for it when it happens. You ain't ready yet.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 02:44 PM (mOPWe)

I doubt every $50,000 a year customs dude in the US or UK or USVI or wherever was in on some grand conspiracy. Either they were complacent and figured "weird, but above my pay grade" or... you know, just the typical government bureaucrats who we all know and love who just do their job to get in their 20 years and as long as no one was smuggling undeclared goods, drugs or bombs, didn't care.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 03:00 PM (GBteo)

667 621 this story is going thermonuclear, whoever "Did It' is not going to be able to sweep it under the rug
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 02:28 PM (BqBId)


Kind of like the Virginia governor, lieutenant governor, and AG story?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 03:00 PM (qgh3L)

668 yeah, what prison guard would say "I was told to leave the area due to some maintenance, and two burly men walked past me as I left".


"In odd coincidence, a prison guard was found dead of a heart attack tomorrow". But if someone had real evidence, going public with all of it might be their best bet ... though they still might get killed as a mob warning to others.


Boycott New York .. they are run by the mob. Remove all assets from NY central enterprises, don't buy from NY HQ corporations, etc. American wealth is funneled through NY (and DC) and they skim much of it, use the rest to leverage up their own power. We need the financial/political powers decentralized.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 03:00 PM (Cus5s)

669 is the "all topics" thread ??

Posted by: runner at August 10, 2019 03:01 PM (bUjCl)

670 who did he name ? so far I've seen democrat names... and Prince Andrew

Posted by: runner at August 10, 2019 03:02 PM (bUjCl)

671 It is crazy. Nobody has asked. Not once.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 03:00 PM (hqsD4)

Well, they have a picture of some british prince with his arm suggestively around the virginia chick -- did the prince (and his staff, and everyone who saw Epstein with an incredibly young looking girl) not say, "er, Jeff, what's the deal with this jailbait chick in a midriff shirt that you're traveling half way across the world with?"

I mean, I completely believe her that the prince was banging her, but giving him the benefit of the doubt for a second here...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 03:02 PM (GBteo)

672 >>Boycott New York .. they are run by the mob.


Nah - Mob would either of had him beat to death by an inmate or run over by a Service Vehicle.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 03:02 PM (hqsD4)

673 Yeah - and I am just asking them to float a totes innocent scenario where this is cool with...oh, anyone?
Posted by: garrett at A




when you are with a bunch of guys flying private and some girls fly in with them, especially if they are all whored up so they seem over 18, who is going to ask, especially if it happens regularly? guessing the they're models thing goes over easy enough.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 10, 2019 03:02 PM (HALdu)

674 I have been reliably informed by reliable pillars of the reliable MSM that Epstein's transition to room temperature is yet another favor from Putin for Trump, proving how he relies on Russia.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 10, 2019 03:02 PM (DMUuz)

675 " is the "all topics" thread ??"

I saw Outhouse Flowers play "Latrine" at the Bowl back in '83.

Posted by: The suicide watch watcher watcher at August 10, 2019 03:03 PM (Tnijr)

676 is the "all topics" thread ??
Posted by: runner at A




everything is kosher except gardening

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 10, 2019 03:03 PM (HALdu)

677 I highly doubt Trump has anything to hide in regards to Epstein.

Oh, on a related note -- did anyone notice that Stormy Daniels retracted her story about having sex with Trump, and the media barely covered it?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 02:32 PM (GBteo)


I doubt it too. Because if the Reds had anything that even remotely plausibly connected Trump with Epstein's frolics, it'd be on billboards all over the country.

And I did not know about Stormy Daniel's retraction. Thanks, MSM!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 03:04 PM (qgh3L)

678
this story is going thermonuclear, whoever "Did It' is not going to be able to sweep it under the rug
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit

Kind of like the Virginia governor, lieutenant governor, and AG story?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


And the Las Vegas shooter.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 03:05 PM (aKsyK)

679 when you are with a bunch of guys flying private and some girls fly in with them, especially if they are all whored up so they seem over 18, who is going to ask, especially if it happens regularly? guessing the they're models thing goes over easy enough.
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 10, 2019 03:02 PM (HALdu)

Yeah, and I'm not well versed on traveling on a private jet or visiting the USVI, but every time *I've* had to travel, I've had to show at least one if not more people my ID, which clearly shows my date of birth. And I'm pretty sure that stuff like DOB is included on FAA manifests. One of the reasons they require such detailed records is so that they know who is on the plane if it crashes.

Some of these chicks weren't even old enough to have drivers licenses.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 03:05 PM (GBteo)

680 I just know he is going to rise on the third day and say SURPRISE and henceforth we all get to celebrate the DAY, with candy,ice cream and underage sex.

Posted by: saf at August 10, 2019 03:05 PM (5IHGB)

681 LOL. If the Russians did this, the pricetag would still be hanging on the sheet, printed in Cyrillic. That's more their style. They like people to know.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2019 03:05 PM (5aX2M)

682 >>who is going to ask


The guy who understands that 'seeming 18' isn't exactly a well known Legal Term.

'She seemed 18, your Honor,' just doesn't hold up as well as you'd like in a Court.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 03:06 PM (hqsD4)

683 Notice also how the Democrats and Fake News have zero interest in justice for Epstein's young victims!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 02:56 PM (UvpTf)


Maybe because they were the ones victimizing them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 03:06 PM (MZSrL)

684 I saw Outhouse Flowers play "Latrine" at the Bowl back in '83.
Posted by: The suicide watch watcher watcher at August 10, 2019 03:03 PM (Tnijr)


that's...no, seriously, who did he name ??


Posted by: runner at August 10, 2019 03:06 PM (bUjCl)

685
Well, they have a picture of some british prince with his arm suggestively around the virginia chick -- did the prince (and his staff, and everyone who saw Epstein with an incredibly young looking girl) not say, "er, Jeff, what's the deal with this jailbait chick in a midriff shirt that you're traveling half way across the world with?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

=======

Are you sure that's how it works? I'd think more like "er, rich-and-famous guy, what's the deal with you NOT having a jailbait chick in a midriff shirt while you're traveling half way across the world?"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 03:06 PM (13CQC)

686 For those of you waiting for the release of The Hunt, please sit down.

Universal Pictures has announced it will not release The Hunt, "a satirical movie about hunting other humans for fun", amid the recent "mass shootings" and criticism from President Trump.

In lieu of unrestrained displays of grief, disappointment and angst, not to mention gnashing of mandibles, binge consumption of Ben & Jerry's latest masterpiece "Bernie's Back" is suggested.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 10, 2019 03:07 PM (DMUuz)

687 Notice how the Democrats demand Epstein's "suicide"
be investigated for a conspiracy, but have no interest at all in
investigating Epstein's crimes and associates.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 02:56 PM (UvpTf)

They didn't have an interest in finding out where baby organs were going or how big a business it it, either.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 03:08 PM (uEbPt)

688 everything is kosher except gardening


==


good to know, Y5...except.. I think now pets are now also excluded

Posted by: runner at August 10, 2019 03:08 PM (bUjCl)

689 In lieu of unrestrained displays of grief, disappointment and angst, not to mention gnashing of mandibles, binge consumption of Ben & Jerry's latest masterpiece "Bernie's Back" is suggested.


"Bernie's Back?"

How appetizing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 03:09 PM (oVJmc)

690 Boycott New York ..


Not the Mets!

Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2019 03:09 PM (786Ro)

691 You want to see something truly spooky?
Go the NY Times. It has a story about "not on suicide watch" that goes on for 20 or + paragraphs mentioning his ties to "rich and powerful" and "finance."

Not one, single word about the most prominent ALLEGED client of pedo Island William Jefferson Clinton.

Then to the Comments. Comment after comment about the "rich" and "powerful." Here is one, representative comment: "We've become Russia. The oligarchs are above the law, and they'll kill to keep it that way."

Even in the comments (after several minutes of scrolling, re-arranging from "NY Times Picks" to "Reader Picks" do you see one reference to the Clintons.

Now of course rumor is not news. But the story is rife with speculation about negligence by the guards, and the IG investigating that. And when the entire country is wondering, legitimately, if this incredibly anomalous and incredibly convenient suicide was a suicide, or abetted by the Clintons, not one word in either story or comment about WJC.

What is frightening is watching how manipulation of the news can, to those living in a MSM bubble, can quite effectively seal off entire avenues of thought.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 03:09 PM (SqopC)

692 Are you sure that's how it works? I'd think more like "er, rich-and-famous guy, what's the deal with you NOT having a jailbait chick in a midriff shirt while you're traveling half way across the world?"
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 03:06 PM (13CQC)

Haha, that's fair. I am not sure how it works, obviously I'm not *quite* in the same social strata as epstein and company.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 03:09 PM (GBteo)

693 not Russians...

Posted by: runner at August 10, 2019 03:10 PM (bUjCl)

694 Some of these days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Gf3UVMnM8

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 03:10 PM (Hg4NE)

695 "do you see one reference to the Clintons" should read "you see not one reference.."
Truly.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 03:11 PM (SqopC)

696 Rod Rosenstein has offered some words.

https://bit.ly/2MUlz58

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 03:11 PM (cqNba)

697 ....I take time off from my very busy day, to get to the bottom of this thing...and ...you people have absolutely no leads ....sad

Posted by: runner at August 10, 2019 03:11 PM (bUjCl)

698
Jeff Epstein was influential. It's legal to fly with underage people.

Nobody was going to say one word out of line to Mr. Moneybags unless (and perhaps, even if) he stuck his dick in one of these girls right on the tarmac in front of security.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2019 03:12 PM (5aX2M)

699 he is using his jet to fly to the vi, no passport necessary, bunch of giggly girls

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 10, 2019 03:13 PM (HALdu)

700 I doubt every $50,000 a year customs dude in the US or UK or USVI or wherever was in on some grand conspiracy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 03:00 PM (GBteo)

It's not a question of conspiracy vs no conspiracy. It's the men in power who can get you fired, reprimanded, arrested, or even killed and nobody is going to do a God damn thing to help you.

Just ask those 13 and 15 year old girls Epstein was selling for decades.

These guys aren't completely untouchable, but they are close enough to it that Joe sixpack would be committing some form of suicide, sometimes literally, to stand in their way.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 10, 2019 03:14 PM (aRAMD)

701
By the way, how many investigations have been indicated?

1 - IG (presumably of Federal Bureau of Prisons)

2 - and FBI?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 03:15 PM (13CQC)

702 Rod Rosenstein has offered some words.

https://bit.ly/2MUlz58

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Move along, folks! Nothing to see here!

Posted by: Officer Barbrady at August 10, 2019 03:16 PM (5aX2M)

703 "Even in the comments (after several minutes of scrolling, re-arranging from "NY Times Picks" to "Reader Picks" do you see one reference to the Clintons".

Surely Clinton references are immediately deleted as abusive.

Posted by: PG at August 10, 2019 03:19 PM (X3wqJ)

704 everything is kosher except gardening


Filthy gardeners with their worms and their foam mica potting soil, using made up words like hyacinth just to show their pishy poshy. They're an unsightly lot those mud caked bib wearers.

Never trust a one of them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 10, 2019 03:21 PM (fuK7c)

705 guy that was arrested after walking through WalMart with "body armor" and rifle and 100 rounds ammo ... said he was testing his 2A limits. Wife and sis told him "bad idea".


They arrested him for making threats or something, but that was just based on what he was carrying ... so maybe not legit, idk. Bad idea it was ... wonder if he was a nutty patriot, or a leftist activist.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 03:21 PM (Cus5s)

706 Rod Rosenstein has offered some words.

So Rod says pedos often commit suicide. Everyone knows this. Nothing can be done to stop it.

Case closed, let's all go get some pizza!

Posted by: tbodie at August 10, 2019 03:22 PM (UoOyP)

707 Assisted suicide....


It has multiple meanings.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 03:22 PM (cqNba)

708 Jeff Epstein was influential. It's legal to fly with underage people.

Nobody was going to say one word out of line to Mr. Moneybags unless (and perhaps, even if) he stuck his dick in one of these girls right on the tarmac in front of security.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2019 03:12 PM (5aX2M)

Yeah, could be true. Most people probably didn't know who he was, but just saw a guy flying in on a private 727 with an entourage and just ... went with it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 10, 2019 03:24 PM (GBteo)

709 Hope this doesn't get willowed....

here's a homily/sermon preached by a Catholic priest from the St. Louis Archdiocese back in November 2014, right before the second round of rioting after the police officer in the Michael Brown case was NOT indicted. It's one of the best homilies I've ever read, and I think a lot of what it says is even more true today. As Insty likes to say, read the whole thing.

https://tinyurl.com/y2cdr2yw

Posted by: Secret Square at August 10, 2019 03:25 PM (9WuX0)

710 ok, so I am back from reading the juicy bits from various thedailybeast dot etc articles. if people think that 007 world of powerful men, spy networks run by lust money, greed and governments is makebelief...think again

Posted by: runner at August 10, 2019 03:26 PM (bUjCl)

711 "South Korea and Japan have to sit down and get along with each other; otherwise, what are we doing...?"
_PDT

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 03:26 PM (Hg4NE)

712 Even in the comments (after several minutes of scrolling, re-arranging from "NY Times Picks" to "Reader Picks" do you see one reference to the Clintons".
-------------------------------------------------------------------

I noticed that.

Very odd.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 03:27 PM (NFEMn)

713
Rod Rodentstein: Shit happens. Oh well.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 03:27 PM (UvpTf)

714 What is frightening is watching how manipulation of the news can, to those living in a MSM bubble, can quite effectively seal off entire avenues of thought.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 03:09 PM (SqopC)

This

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 03:29 PM (NFEMn)

715 @703
""Even in the comments (after several minutes of scrolling, re-arranging from "NY Times Picks" to "Reader Picks" do you see one reference to the Clintons".

Surely Clinton references are immediately deleted as abusive."

Interestingly I didn't see reference to Trump either (as I had expected). It's propaganda wheels within wheels.

The Times burying the lede by Stalinist elimination of any "Clinton" reference, yet preserving its "credibility" by ALSO deleting specific reference to Trump.

Of course, Trump had no connection to Epstein, and actually had him barred from Mari Lago, while Clinton took more than 10 documented trips to Pedo Island in its heyday. But hey, they're "even handed": not "speculating about individuals" (whether clearly implicated, or clearly not at all in Epstein's orbit).

And of course the references to "finance" and "billionaires" is neutral as can be, and in no way in the average leftist mind is linked either to Trump or to traditionally stereotyped Republicans.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 03:30 PM (SqopC)

716 713
Rod Rodentstein: Shit happens. Oh well.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 03:27 PM (UvpTf)


I think he, if you read his words, was saying that they were, at the least, lax in their not having him on suicide watch.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 03:31 PM (Hg4NE)

717 CNN has been playing up that Epstein was a friend of The Donald with no mention of Bill

MSNBC runs a video of Trump hanging with Epstein. No commentary necessary

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 10, 2019 03:38 PM (1SvcY)

718
I think he, if you read his words, was saying that they were, at the least, lax in their not having him on suicide watch.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10

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I was up til 3am dealing with a problem, so I haven't read much about this, but I did see ace claim he was on suicide watch.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2019 03:38 PM (5aX2M)

719 It's difficult to keep them from suicide, but not impossible. It requires someone be with them at all times. In a high profile case like this, maybe two people with him, one other on duty to relieve the two.


BUT if enough insiders want him dead, cameras will go out of service, guards will be ordered to stand down, SuperMax will not be ordered, maybe even suicide watch will be removed.


Sorry, it does not happen when all measures are taken to make sure it doesn't happen. (from my expertise attained in the last three hours). As Coulter said, move him to SuperMax or he will be dead. Other professionals knew that .. but they (obviously) wanted him dead ... "mistakes happen" is the fall back position for insiders doing the work of "the mob".

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 03:39 PM (Cus5s)

720 I think he, if you read his words, was saying that they were, at the least, lax in their not having him on suicide watch.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 03:31 PM (Hg4NE)


What, exactly, is the point of having a "lax" suicide watch? Isn't that kind of like having "lax" air traffic control?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 03:40 PM (kfdLC)

721 "Isn't that kind of like having "lax" air traffic control?"

I think the FAA requires there to an LAX Air Traffic Control.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 03:42 PM (cqNba)

722 >>It's difficult to keep them from suicide, but not impossible.


They do it, successfully, in Hospitals ALL THE TIME.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 03:42 PM (hqsD4)

723 and "Epstein Dead" happens on a Friday night, the time all bad news is always conveniently dumped, so it is old news by Monday. Or at least the preferred NewNarrative is formed by Monday, all talking points set in stone.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 03:44 PM (Cus5s)

724 The Clinton's would never let Epstein go to a hospital.

My friend called his death...an arkanacide.

Posted by: ZaN at August 10, 2019 03:46 PM (NLEnr)

725  and "Epstein Dead" happens on a Friday night, the time all bad news is always conveniently dumped, so it is old news by Monday. Or at least the preferred NewNarrative is formed by Monday, all talking points set in stone.

Posted by: illiniwek 


not to self. stay the fvck AWAY from gun free zones this weekend

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 10, 2019 03:50 PM (VcFUs)

726 not = note

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - sofa king we todd did at August 10, 2019 03:51 PM (VcFUs)

727 "When we are taken advantage of by another country we reciprocate. I am a very reciprocal President"

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 03:52 PM (Hg4NE)

728 Epstein told his guards someone tried to kill him two weeks ago.

Nothing to see here except a botched assassination finally done right.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2019 03:53 PM (pUDQf)

729 Bets on Lois Frankel being the next Arkancide case.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 03:54 PM (BbGew)

730 Epstein has become a uniter of the Left and the Right.

NOBODY believes that he killed himself.
Only the choice of likely suspects differs.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 03:55 PM (cqNba)

731 >>>What, exactly, is the point of having a "lax" suicide watch? Isn't that kind of like having "lax" air traffic control?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 03:40 PM (kfdLC)


OK.
The people responsible for Epstein were lax (irresponsible) in their supervising duty.
The didn't do their job. Any prisoner who is a pedophile is a suicide risk and should be treated as such. And they didn't.

That's the way I understood his words.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 03:58 PM (Hg4NE)

732 I need the smart people to tell me how much is lost in the other cases due to Epstein Dead. Getting Epstein was not the big deal, it was all those he was either blackmailing or providing services.

But on the public opinion thing, a trial would have carried a narrative for months? ... and instead maybe his estate just goes to quietly settle civil cases? idk, but maybe the biggest threat was to TheNarrative. Unless his plea deal was to turn over more evidence ... and that is why he was killed.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 04:04 PM (Cus5s)

733 I could see some doltish lawman fucking up a suicide watch, but not with a high-value, high-profile perp/potential witness like Jeff.

Something definitely smells rotten. Not that someone had him cacked, which I'll concede is definitely possible. But I think at very least, that the people in charge of watching seem conspicuously complacent here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2019 04:08 PM (5aX2M)

734 Mentioned yesterday we finally had a solid lead on a slave holder who should pay reparations. Well back to looking for one today.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 04:08 PM (BbGew)

735 Rosenstein was downplaying any conspiracy theory, with "these things happen, hard to prevent". Which just reinforces the coverup mode to me ...


Barr is outraged ... OK, but no due diligence previously, to get Epstein in SuperMax, for instance. So Barr will "investigate", FBI will investigate itself, an IG will "investigate". How about a little proactive "gee, we know NY is corrupt as hell, we better protect our witness".


The quick responses of "mistakes were made, hard to protect from suicide, this stuff happens" smell completely staged, even planned. All indications are The Powers That BE (DeepState) wanted this and made it so.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 04:10 PM (Cus5s)

736

Universal Pictures has canceled the planned September release of its controversial social thriller "The Hunt" in the wake of recent mass shootings and criticism from President Donald Trump.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 04:11 PM (aKsyK)

737 From imager is supposed to be Epstein footage.
That's what they say.
Antique won't play so...

https://____r.com/gallery/GVl1YIg

The underscore is a u.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 04:16 PM (Hg4NE)

738 Made a tiny url for it:

https://tinyurl.com/y52zd6fu

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 04:18 PM (Hg4NE)

739 Isn’t it obvious? Jeffrey Epstein was murdered because dead men don’t talk (about the Clintons)

https://tinyurl.com/y45dsmd4

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 04:21 PM (Hg4NE)

740
If I were an interrogator and Epstein's multiple suicide attempts were genuine, I'd have a positive interest in keeping him alive, to a point.

I'd keep cutting him off at the pass until he was desperate.

Then explain that he's never getting out, no matter what, unless he successfully kills himself, and I can't let that happen.

Unless he talks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2019 04:23 PM (5aX2M)

741 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 03:05 PM (aKsyK)
None of those are Close

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:23 PM (BqBId)

742 Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 04:10 PM (Cus5s)
*******

"IF" he killed himself, Epstein would be the 1st suicide at the MCC

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:25 PM (BqBId)

743 http://bit.ly/2KxMUXW
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Sen. Ben Sasse: 'Inexcusable' Epstein Not Under Constant Suicide Watch

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:31 PM (BqBId)

744 I guess I do not understand the concept of 'red flag' laws.

If somebody says/does something that makes them a danger to the community wouldn't they be arrested, charged and convicted of a felony? Wouldn't this make them a convicted felon and ineligible to possess firearms anyway? Like any other felon?



Maybe it is just to make it illegal, but not illegal illegal, to say / do certain things, an administrative punishment for double-plus-un-good -thought-speak, to be rode down the slippery slope to just un-good-thought.

You'd think Trump would be a little more averse to punishing people for un-good-thought. All those cases he lost because judges can read his mind...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2019 04:35 PM (1g7ch)

745 Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 04:10 PM (Cus5s)
*******

"IF" he killed himself, Epstein would be the 1st suicide at the MCC

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:25 PM (BqBId)

Watch what Rudy says in the coming days. He has a lot of contacts throughout law enforcement in NYC.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 04:36 PM (NFEMn)

746 Marc Caputo
@MarcACaputo
Often, I make fun of conspiracy theories. Here, if the Jeffrey #EpsteinSuicide really happened in a lockup WHILE HE WAS ON SUICIDE WATCH, it's 100 percent reasonable to be deeply suspicious of the death. Heads should roll

Our justice system is rotten
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Politco Fla. Reporter, Even Lefty's aren't buying it

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:38 PM (BqBId)

747 Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 04:36 PM (NFEMn)
*******
He has already tweeted about it & I pointed out all his past history in NYC & Blonde Morticia said how would he know anything. The Mind Boggles ay some posters ignorance here

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:40 PM (BqBId)

748 http://bit.ly/2MbrH9x
*******
Breaking911 on Twitter: "NEW: STATEMENT OF MANHATTAN U.S. ATTORNEY ON THE DEATH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:42 PM (BqBId)

749 BT- Seems the Red Flag law attempts short cut existing laws, basically it's guilty until found innocent.
Say a ex spouse or that whacky SiL Leftist makes up speech your a white nationalist and thinks your a danger it will start this Red Flag.

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 04:43 PM (BbGew)

750 >>>said how would he know anything. The Mind Boggles ay some posters ignorance here

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:40 PM (BqBId)


We are so lucky having you here to keep things straight.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 04:47 PM (Hg4NE)

751 Just as expected, Red Flag laws are to punish for what is actually not illegal or chargable.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2019 04:47 PM (1g7ch)

752 Laurence Tribe @tribelaw
2h
Barr must recuse from the investigation into the highly suspicious decision to take #JeffreyEpstein off suicide watch. Even if he could justify his nonrecusal from Epstein's prosecution, he can't justify overseeing an inquiry that cuts this close to the bone.
********
anyone sure he is alive & cogent enough to tweet things

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:48 PM (BqBId)

753 Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 04:47 PM (Hg4NE-
******
Your're welcome ! just trying to help the more Doltish understand

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 04:49 PM (BqBId)

754 Berman, they didn't kill him for the girls.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 04:50 PM (Hg4NE)

755 Berman, they didn't kill him for the girls.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 04:50 PM (Hg4NE)
*******
UMMMMMMMM Yes, Yes they did

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 05:05 PM (BqBId)

756 The plot thickens.

Ghislaine Maxwell's father (Robert Maxwell) also died in mysterious circumstances ascribed to suicide or accident.

https://www.theweek.co.uk/96375/how-did-robert-maxwell-die

Ghislaine Maxwell was basically Epstein's procurer, apparently.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 05:14 PM (kfdLC)

757 can you imagine the hot takes on 8Chan if it was up & running

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 05:22 PM (BqBId)

758 Huh?

Taken off suicide watch right before he committed suicide.

Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

It's a queer old world, ain't it?

Ironic, one might say.



"Deadly Irony" seems like a pretty good murder mystery title.

I'll get right on that.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 10, 2019 05:25 PM (mIQCW)

759 For some reason I'm watching the Jr NBA championship. At least I've seen a couple of threes, and even a slam dunk. Better than WNBA.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2019 05:34 PM (5aX2M)

760 Laurence Tribe @tribelaw
2h
Barr must recuse from the investigation into the highly suspicious decision to take #JeffreyEpstein off suicide watch. Even if he could justify his nonrecusal from Epstein's prosecution, he can't justify overseeing an inquiry that cuts this close to the bone.

They still think they got Trump dead to rights.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 06:01 PM (NFEMn)

761
They still think they got Trump dead to rights.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 06:01 PM (NFEMn)


No, they all know they are making shiite up since day one.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2019 06:09 PM (1g7ch)

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