Study Finds Fruit Juice and Sugar-Sweetened Drinks Associated with Cancer, Artificially Sweetened Drinks Not Associated With Cancer

Before getting to that, let me toss this in here for anyone who's tired of my constant anti-sugar agitation.

Please report the below Thoughtcriminal for this unauthorized, non-accredited parody.



The medical experts accepted a theory with no evidence for it and foisted it on the country for fifty years in what has been called the largest, longest uncontrolled experiment in history.

We're finally now starting to test what this experiment has wrought.

Drinking large amounts of fruit juice may raise your risk of cancer, according to a big study which has found a link between the regular consumption of all kinds of sugary drinks and the likelihood of developing the disease.

The study, carried out in France, is the first substantial piece of research to find a specific association between sugar and cancer. Sugary drinks such as colas, lemonade and energy drinks have been linked to obesity, which is a cause of cancer, but the French researchers suggest there could also be other reasons sugar could trigger it.

The study, published in the BMJ, finds the association with cancer is just as strong with fruit juices as it is with colas. "When the group of sugary drinks was split into 100% fruit juices and other sugary drinks, the consumption of both beverage types was associated with a higher risk of overall cancer," it says.

...

"The recommendation from several public health agencies is to consume less than one drink per day. If you consume from time to time a sugary drink it won’t be a problem, but if you drink at least one glass a day it can raise the risk of several diseases -- here, maybe cancer, but also with a high level of evidence, cardiometabolic diseases."

Fruit juices showed the same association with cancer as colas. "The main driver of the association seems to be sugar, so when we just look at the sugar content per 100ml, regular Coke or 100% orange juice, for instance, are quite the same. So it's not so odd that we observe this association for fruit juices," said Touvier.

A lot of people have been saying for a decade or more that fruit juice is just Coca Cola with a side of vitamin C. This study is more confirmation of that.

They found that a 100ml increase in sugary drink consumption was associated with an 18% increased risk of overall cancer and a 22% increased risk of breast cancer.

There was no link between artificial sweeteners and cancer, but the numbers using artificial sweeteners were too small to be conclusive.

The study is here. High sugar doses, they say, might increase cancer rates as they increase obesity (which itself is linked to higher cancer rates), or it might increase the chances of cancer more directly -- through insulin resistance aka metabolic syndrome aka Syndrome X.

Apart from the obesity and adiposity pathways, mechanisms underlying a link between sugary drinks and cancer might involve insulin resistance caused by their high glycaemic index or glycaemic load, which have been related to breast cancer, hepatocellular cancer, and diabetes related carcinomas.

A weakness in the study is that it's just a questionnaire and self-tracking type of study, and people are usually not great at remembering and reporting everything they ate or drank.

Still, the American government declared a War on Eggs and Meat based on much, much weaker survey-style studies.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:20 PM




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1 Foist?

Posted by: Someguy at July 11, 2019 12:25 PM (p997d)

2 Ralph on the schoolbus meme:


*chuckles*

I'm in danger

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2019 12:25 PM (KUaJL)

3 Hi

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 12:25 PM (uLuPn)

4
DAMN i read the content.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2019 12:25 PM (M9ntN)

5 The Internet gave me cancer.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2019 12:25 PM (iys0/)

6 Yo

Posted by: Ha at July 11, 2019 12:25 PM (MAstk)

7 drink booze, problem solved. so sick of these mouth breathing, center earth, nicklefuckers. so full of shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 11, 2019 12:26 PM (KP5rU)

8 The government recommends we all eat these nourishing pellets.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 11, 2019 12:26 PM (FTlwv)

9 Wow, interesting. Personally I still don't think artificial sweeteners are doing me any good though, and I've been gradually cutting them all out.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 12:26 PM (Ez6QX)

10 All studies are bullshit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2019 12:26 PM (DrqHq)

11 Yeah, I'll just wait for next year's study that completely flips these findings. Seen too much in my time.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 11, 2019 12:26 PM (LGXGf)

12 whatever. I guess we should just all drink only water, right? Or does that give us cancer, too?

Posted by: soulpile at July 11, 2019 12:26 PM (wJAJb)

13 It's filled with artificial sweeteners and LINK!

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2019 12:26 PM (yfm5M)

14 Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2019 12:27 PM (bDqIh)

15 The science is settled!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. at July 11, 2019 12:27 PM (rF9rk)

16 First?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 11, 2019 12:27 PM (t6MX/)

17 It you think that was junk science, you should see what passes for "climate science".

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2019 12:27 PM (xfb67)

18 Well, that's it, the white screen of death.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 11, 2019 12:27 PM (FTlwv)

19 Typical anti-semite. Blaming the Juice.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2019 12:27 PM (yfm5M)

20 st

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 12:27 PM (uLuPn)

21 After the food pyramid, who's surprised by this.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2019 12:28 PM (G0vdT)

22 Study Finds Fruit Juice and Sugar-Sweetened Drinks Associated with Cancer, Artificially Sweetened Drinks Not Associated With Cancer

LOL.

I love these "studies". You can find one to prove or disprove anything. Take your pick.

Sugar causes cancer .. okie doke.

But that awful tasting fake sugar just flies through your system without even leaving a trace. Sure ... I buy it ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2019 12:28 PM (bOCwl)

23 What happened?

Posted by: lin-duh @ werk at July 11, 2019 12:28 PM (9iLHi)

24 If it is just a questionnaire, it isn't a "study".

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at July 11, 2019 12:28 PM (SRRAx)

25 All that red dye number 40 in the links is giving me cancer. Yikes.

Posted by: bluebell at July 11, 2019 12:28 PM (aXucN)

26 1st

Posted by: Actually inside the beltway at July 11, 2019 12:28 PM (ldXWf)

27 Hello lo lo lo

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Nazi at July 11, 2019 12:28 PM (rNRx/)

28 ?

Posted by: Actually inside the beltway at July 11, 2019 12:28 PM (ldXWf)

29 I just can't keep track anymore.

So I won't.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 12:29 PM (NFEMn)

30 Hmmm. Empty here. Like my heart.

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Nazi at July 11, 2019 12:29 PM (rNRx/)

31 Everything gives you healthy diseases.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 11, 2019 12:29 PM (19g6/)

32 I just can't keep track anymore of what's good and bad for you.

So I won't even try.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 12:29 PM (NFEMn)

33
Global warming is going to kill us in twelve years anyway.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 11, 2019 12:29 PM (TAmPV)

34 Where are you Ace?

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 12:29 PM (uLuPn)

35 Ya mean orange man bad AND orange juice bad?

Posted by: steve at July 11, 2019 12:32 PM (TTy55)

36 If you put vodka in your orange juice it cuts the risk of disease in half. Probably.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 11, 2019 12:33 PM (gC2IV)

37 Funny how they never highlight any food, chemical or substance that actually prevents disease/prolongs life. Might want to ask the trial lawyers why that is....

Posted by: DeVan at July 11, 2019 12:34 PM (kC+1/)

38 A voice screaming in the wilderness.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 11, 2019 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

39 Skip the Big Gulp and buy a pack of smokes instead.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:21 PM (NWiLs)

40 BIG SUGAR DISAPPEARED THE POST!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at July 11, 2019 01:21 PM (RD7QR)

41 I used to work in local tv. This is how it goes:

This week: Chocolate is Bad for your Heart.

In two weeks:

Chocolate is Good for your Heart.

In two more weeks:

Chocolate is Bad for your Heart.

Repeat ad infinitum.

Posted by: shibumi, high functioning conspiray theorist at July 11, 2019 01:22 PM (+H0tZ)

42 Sugar isn't good for you.

Corn syrup is worse.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 11, 2019 01:22 PM (YslsA)

43 I knew it actually existed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:22 PM (q80AH)

44 I'm hungry. 38 minutes until I can eat.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 01:22 PM (Ez6QX)

45 I feel like I've seen this before. Anyone else getting Deja Vu?

Oh well, back to my candy lunch.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2019 01:22 PM (xfb67)

46 A lot of people have been saying for a decade or more that fruit juice is just Coca Cola with a side of vitamin C.


Me, for one. 'Bout time you assholes caught up.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2019 01:22 PM (oVJmc)

47 What fake conservative news/opinion rag does Jeffery Goldberg wor... ah lie for?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:22 PM (pw+jk)

48 Democrats rush to ban fruit juice in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2019 01:22 PM (qsaBy)

49 glad i'm not a sugar baby.

Posted by: willow at July 11, 2019 01:23 PM (r/xAU)

50 Hearing a lot of mays and maybes in their talk. You'd think they'd stake out a stonger position with a lot less weasel words.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2019 01:23 PM (HDCbD)

51 BTW

Life is lethal.
No one gets out alive.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2019 01:23 PM (qsaBy)

52 49 glad i'm not a sugar baby.
Posted by: willow at July 11, 2019 01:23 PM (r/xAU)

Disappointing many a would-be sugar daddy.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:23 PM (NWiLs)

53 Okay, I'm completely confused. Must be the sugar.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 11, 2019 01:23 PM (2LelM)

54 46 A lot of people have been saying for a decade or more that fruit juice is just Coca Cola with a side of vitamin C.


Me, for one. 'Bout time you assholes caught up.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2019 01:22 PM (oVJmc)

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Our pediatrician told us that at one yearly check up for Junior.

He mostly drinks milk and water.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:23 PM (FbLDL)

55 Yeah well what about donuts?

It doesn't say donuts are bad.

Imma keep eating donuts.

Posted by: blaster at July 11, 2019 01:23 PM (9VeU0)

56
On days like today Democrats are forced to acknowledge the economy is Balls Out.

But then, of course, you'll hear it's obama's economy, which begs the obvious question: then why vote for change when President Trump is such a good steward of "obama's economy?"

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 11, 2019 01:24 PM (VVr1J)

57 I'm hungry. 38 minutes until I can eat.

11 - 7 ?

Posted by: Adriane the Intermittant Fasting Critic ... at July 11, 2019 01:24 PM (LPnfS)

58 insomniac, ha, well so be it.

Posted by: willow at July 11, 2019 01:24 PM (r/xAU)

59 A lot of Keto information (FWIW) speculates that sugar is an easy energy source for cancer cells to utilize. Cutting the carbs makes it harder on them, since they're weaker...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2019 01:24 PM (oVJmc)

60 51 BTW

Life is lethal.
No one gets out alive.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2019 01:23 PM (qsaBy)

Yep. Eventually we're all going to die of something or other.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:24 PM (NWiLs)

61 Can I still have rum and OJ, rum and Coke, and tequila shooters?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (pw+jk)

62 Value-Rite is my health drink. No sugar.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (U2rG9)

63 56
On days like today Democrats are forced to acknowledge the economy is Balls Out.

But then, of course, you'll hear it's obama's economy, which begs the obvious question: then why vote for change when President Trump is such a good steward of "obama's economy?"
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 11, 2019 01:24 PM (VVr1J)

=========

"Because Biden!"

---Biden drops out of race, February 2020---

"Kamala will do it even better!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (FbLDL)

64 7 drink booze, problem solved. so sick of these mouth breathing, center earth, nicklefuckers. so full of shit.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 11, 2019 12:26 PM (KP5rU)

A dude drank and ate only wheat style session beer of lent and lost 40 lbs ran fast lifted better.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (JFO2v)

65 so, these artificial sweeteners are not the big C risk everyone thought....wow.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (JziUy)

66 everything causes cancer...and worry causes heart attacks

live love fight and long life

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (3gwtv)

67 I do go through a thing a couple times a year where I want chocolate or something disgusting sweet, but I pick it up eat a couple of bites and say ew.

Posted by: willow at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (r/xAU)

68 Yep. Eventually we're all going to die of something or other.


Which is either terrifying or comforting, depending on your particular mood or outlook.

Posted by: shibumi, high functioning conspiray theorist at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (+H0tZ)

69 He mostly drinks milk

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Eeeeee!!! Lactose.

Posted by: Undocumented at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (5NMZN)

70 57 I'm hungry. 38 minutes until I can eat.

11 - 7 ?
Posted by: Adriane the Intermittant Fasting Critic ... at July 11, 2019 01:24 PM (LPnfS)

Yup.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (Ez6QX)

71 On days like today Democrats are forced to acknowledge the economy is Balls Out.

But then, of course, you'll hear it's obama's economy, which begs the obvious question: then why vote for change when President Trump is such a good steward of "obama's economy?"
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 11, 2019 01:24 PM (VVr1J)


No, no no. If it weren't for Trump, the economy would be doing even better!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (KUaJL)

72 My kids didn't even know what juice was until some of the other kids had it during snack in kindergarten.


Sugar does all kinds of evil things. Of course the government conspired with the plant based goons and loons to push low fat and high sugar crap since wwI.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (nRWPy)

73 65 so, these artificial sweeteners are not the big C risk everyone thought....wow.
Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 11, 2019 01:25 PM (JziUy)

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I still find it weird to think of Big Sugar as a thing. I know it's a thing, but it's still weird.

Anyway, I'd be completely unsurprised if we found out that Big Sugar was behind the studies that had called the artificial sweeteners bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (FbLDL)

74 39 Skip the Big Gulp and buy a pack of smokes instead.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:21 PM (NWiLs)

If I get Diet Coke can I get both?

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (Ez6QX)

75 I've switched almost entirely to allulose and tatagose sweeteners. The only side effects are explosive diarrhea and nausea.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (xfb67)

76 Everything causes cancer.

No one lives forever.

Nut up.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (bcbK8)

77 *smugly eyes wine glass*

Posted by: Metabolic Miklos at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (QzkSJ)

78 Water is the real killer. Everyone that drinks water dies.

Every. Single. Person.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (pw+jk)

79 Pretty sure Bourbon is healthy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (2LelM)

80 I just had chicken and beef fajitas from El Tiempo restaurant. I need to go back to work but I'm in a semi food coma right now.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (2DOZq)

81 "Cutting down on the amount of sugary drinks we all consume, together with sugar taxes ..

SAY WHAT ? .. SUGAR TAXES ?

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (QkjLD)

82 "I just can't keep track anymore of what's good and bad for you.

So I won't even try."

Look at what everyone else is doing and what the government is telling you to do and do the opposite.

Th nutrition establishment is so fucked up that the George Constanza approach is the best way to keep it simple and make it work.

Posted by: James OBrien MD at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (/r3rr)

83 72 My kids didn't even know what juice was until some of the other kids had it during snack in kindergarten.


Sugar does all kinds of evil things. Of course the government conspired with the plant based goons and loons to push low fat and high sugar crap since wwI.
Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (nRWPy)

============

Regulatory capture, what is it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (FbLDL)

84 Think I'll keep eating bacon and butter just like my mother and grand mother (that both lived to be 94)!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (AZxMX)

85 So...

Drinking large amounts of fruit juice may raise your risk of cancer...
The study, carried out in France...
The study...finds the association with cancer is just as strong with fruit juices as it is with colas.


Solution? Drink more wine.
Preferably French wine I suspect.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (axyOa)

86 So are we taking fructose in fruit juice compared to high fructose corn syrup as opposed to drinks made with 100% cane sugar?

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (gmo/4)

87 Lactose is fine for a growing child. As an adult, milk has a lot of sugar.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (nRWPy)

88 So how does a smoothie fit into this? If it's just a banana, peaches, some Greek yogurt and about 4 ounces of OJ in that? Still just juice or blended fruit?

Posted by: Blanco at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (HltPS)

89 74 39 Skip the Big Gulp and buy a pack of smokes instead.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:21 PM (NWiLs)

If I get Diet Coke can I get both?
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (Ez6QX)

As long as they're "light."

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (NWiLs)

90 Adduduem to 75

It's tagatose, I always get that wrong.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (xfb67)

91 80 I just had chicken and beef fajitas from El Tiempo restaurant. I need to go back to work but I'm in a semi food coma right now.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (2DOZq)

down here is houston??

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (JFO2v)

92

Violet Beauregard is mort at 62.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (VVr1J)

93 Except the government is right about smoking. So they get an F plus.

Posted by: James OBrien MD at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (/r3rr)

94
Still love sugar.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (TAmPV)

95 CLINTON/EPSTEIN SEX TAPE REVEALED:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIIRO-VqUY&has_verified=1

Posted by: regular Joe at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (6/uwW)

96 79 Pretty sure Bourbon is healthy.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (2LelM)

=========

As a kid, I would get Coke and my dad would get a beer at a restaurant.

"Mine's healthier!"
-Me, very smart

"Um...no."
-My dad, obviously stupid

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (FbLDL)

97 I do like eggs, meat and milk, though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (bcbK8)

98 I drink diet pop. If it turns out that causes cancer, oh well. I'm sure at first I switched to diet to cut a few grams of sugar per day but now I can't stand non-diet cola, it's too sweet, even the real sugar stuff. And the high fructose regular ol' Coke is just gross.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (oZ6kz)

99 Joe Jackson, "Everything give you Cancer"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsQyru5ACmA

it's actually a really good 80's song.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (Kpl3J)

100 I am addicted to Diet Coke.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (uLuPn)

101 89 74 39 Skip the Big Gulp and buy a pack of smokes instead.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:21 PM (NWiLs)

If I get Diet Coke can I get both?
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (Ez6QX)

As long as they're "light."
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (NWiLs)

quarter lb snickers and a diet coke

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (JFO2v)

102 That's why I mix fruit juice with booze. The cancer just passes out on the couch.

Posted by: Panchito Pistoles at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (MW+Pw)

103 Everything gives people healthy diseases.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (19g6/)

104 Chocolate covered pretzels make life worth living.

You can limp along in an undead way with your ascetic lifestyle that is devoid of any pleasure (and you'll still die around the same time as you would have, otherwise) or you can stuff your face with chocolate covered pretzels whenever you get a hankering and do some exercise to work it off and lead a very enjoyable, fun, pleasurable life. It's your choice.

Me ... I don't take advice from Frogs on anything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (bOCwl)

105 French wine destroys testosterone. Millinials love it. They keep it in their murses.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (U2rG9)

106 Fuck it all. I'll drink what I want and eat what I want.

Posted by: Sooner at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (Fs5vw)

107 Pretty sure Bourbon is healthy.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (2LelM)

Only if drunk over organically sourced ice cubes!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (AZxMX)

108 93 Except the government is right about smoking. So they get an F plus.
Posted by: James OBrien MD at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (/r3rr)

=========

We are probably less than a few years away from the Sleeper prediction coming to full fruition and science discovering that smoking is actually healthy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (FbLDL)

109 The leading cause of death is life..

Posted by: Wytshus at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (V0sZT)

110 79 Pretty sure Bourbon is healthy.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (2LelM)

I intend to perform experiments about this very subject this weekend.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (RD7QR)

111 The only safe thing to drink is thot bathwater, it'll just give you HPV and a crippling case of incelitis.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (oZ6kz)

112 "Drinking large amounts..."


Pretty much sums it up right there.
Ingesting too much of anything will mess you up, and yes, probably cause cancer.
Duh!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (axyOa)

113 The study makes sense. The Warburg effect has been know for decades. Cancer loves sugar and hates fasting.

Posted by: James OBrien MD at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (/r3rr)

114 I'm briefly high-jacking the thread to post this photoshop from Conservative TreeHouse of the Dem candidates in time for their next debate. I laughed. Don't miss Kirstin Gillibrand the bottom of the picture :

https://tinyurl.com/y2sqkeo7

I particularly liked the picture of "I'm going to get me a beer" Liz Warren.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (+0VWg)

115 112 "Drinking large amounts..."


Pretty much sums it up right there.
Ingesting too much of anything will mess you up, and yes, probably cause cancer.
Duh!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (axyOa)

==========

*raises hand with a question*
-Buttigieg

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (FbLDL)

116
The old hag and her gangster cronies will never prevail against the neo-Maoist Justice Dems faction.

They should do everyone involved a favor and just throw in the towel now.

But they won't, because Nancy Pelosi's mission in life seems to have become "entertaining YD."

I love watching this. Seeing the old crook be ravaged alive by her own creation is just boner-ific.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (AzW6q)

117 I hoping that tape isn't Clinton and Epstein together.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (YslsA)

118 Fuck it all. I'll drink what I want and eat what I want.

Posted by: Sooner at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM

****

This.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (axyOa)

119 Live an "unhealthy" life style...you're gonna die.
Live a "healthy" life style....you're still gonna die.

Posted by: BignJames at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (ykq7q)

120 Life is a sexually transmitted condition that is ultimately terminal.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (NWiLs)

121 Pssst!

Swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long periods of time, causes cancer...


Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (gmo/4)

122 All things in moderation.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (uLuPn)

123 Back to writing. And then work. Whee.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (qsaBy)

124 Forty years ago; chocolate was bad. Coffee was bad. Bacon & eggs were bad. Recent research now says otherwise. I'll have the OJ thanks.

Posted by: Skeptic at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (PLoJn)

125 Beer is food.
Food is not beer.

Rules to live by.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (pw+jk)

126 My fluid crack right now is Pineapple Orange flavored Tang liquid . Squeeze it right into the bottled water. Just like crack I've had to squeeze more and more into the bottle to get the same high as when I started to drink it.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (2DOZq)

127 119 Live an "unhealthy" life style...you're gonna die.
Live a "healthy" life style....you're still gonna die.
Posted by: BignJames at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (ykq7q)

=========

Smoke every day. Live to 70.

Never smoke. Live to 75.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (FbLDL)

128 95 CLINTON/EPSTEIN SEX TAPE REVEALED:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIIRO-VqUY&has_verified=1
Posted by: regular Joe at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (6/uwW)

Wait, I thought they were into pre-teen girls?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (RD7QR)

129 Pour a little sugar on me....

Posted by: The Archies at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (FTlwv)

130 The medical experts accepted a theory with no evidence for it and foisted it on the country for fifty years in what has been called the largest, longest uncontrolled experiment in history.

Consider yourselves as having been subjected to my canned rant re the lousy science done in the biomedical field. Only the social "sciences" are worse.

The medical experts accepted a theory with no evidence for it and foisted it on the country for fifty years in what has been called the largest, longest uncontrolled experiment in history.

Which rant includes this "study."

A weakness in the study is that it's just a questionnaire and self-tracking type of study, and people are usually not great at remembering and reporting everything they ate or drank.

A weakness?? I hope to Christ it's a weakness. There's more reliable information in the graffiti on men's room walls.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (208R5)

131 86 So are we taking fructose in fruit juice compared to high fructose corn syrup as opposed to drinks made with 100% cane sugar?
Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (gmo/4)

Either, or even fresh juiced fruits. Fructose isn't any better for you than cane sugar. In fact it's actually more of a liver toxin. The benefit to fruit is that it has fiber which causes the release of the sugars to be delayed while the body breaks down the fiber. If you juice the fruit, there is no delay and it acts just like cane/beet or corn syrup. Sugar is sugar regardless of source. In fact a tablespoon of honey for example has more sugar and is worse for you than a tablespoon of table sugar.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (nRWPy)

132 100 I am addicted to Diet Coke.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM (uLuPn)

Me too. I've been trying to cut down and drink more water.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (Ez6QX)

133 Judge Andrew Napolitano: Census asks too many questions - it's just supposed to determine our population size

.. especially those questions about how long I &%%$*^* Obama's $^%*

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (QkjLD)

134 Bourbon is healthy.

Being Bourbon, on the other hand....

Posted by: The ghost of Louis XVI's disembodied head at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (AURKQ)

135
"Cutting down on the amount of sugary drinks we all consume, together with sugar taxes ..

SAY WHAT ? .. SUGAR TAXES ?
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (

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Taxes are always the answer.

Posted by: rd at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (EK+Pw)

136 Mexican food for lunch was a mistake.

I'll be tasting it the rest of the day.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (uLuPn)

137 Violet Beauregard is mort at 62.

May her family Find Strength and Be Comforted ...

Posted by: Adriane the Intermittant Fasting Critic ... at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (LPnfS)

138 Oh no, I might end up dying at 75 instead of 95. I'll miss so much time with my grandkids that will never exist, and 20 more years of being in constant pain.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (oZ6kz)

139 Jim Geraghty pointed out this morning that a Vanity Fair article says that Epstein has compromising photos of Bill Clinton on Pedophile Island, so he may indeed soon discover that all roads lead to Fort Marcy Park.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (ZGrMX)

140 122 All things in moderation.
Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (uLuPn)

I take moderation in moderation.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (KUaJL)

141 I would like to say that no matter what side of this you are on, there will be a study next week to say you are wrong! It's Science!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (r+sAi)

142 137 Violet Beauregard is mort at 62.

May her family Find Strength and Be Comforted ...
Posted by: Adriane the Intermittant Fasting Critic ... at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (LPnfS)

Her chewing gum will lie in state.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (NWiLs)

143 108 93 Except the government is right about smoking. So they get an F plus.
Posted by: James OBrien MD at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (/r3rr)

=========

We are probably less than a few years away from the Sleeper prediction coming to full fruition and science discovering that smoking is actually healthy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:28 PM

***

Getting close.
In Washington State they outlawed cigar bars and of course cigarettes are a big taboo.
But smoking a joint is both legal and encouraged.
I hate politicians.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (axyOa)

144 I don't need sugar. I'm sweet enough.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (K/2j/)

145 My self-serving hypothesis is that whatever long-term badness is in the artificial sweeteners, switching to diet/zero soda/pop (in part) helped me lose some fifty pounds, and I'm ok with that tradeoff.

Eat and drink what you like.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (H97ZA)

146 Violet is gone? She's got a golden ticket to the pearly gates, now.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (oZ6kz)

147 Don't forget the War on Butter. They told people with heart problems to eat margarine. I saw it with my own (admittedly much younger) eyes.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (j3npP)

148 98 I drink diet pop. If it turns out that causes cancer, oh well. I'm sure at first I switched to diet to cut a few grams of sugar per day but now I can't stand non-diet cola, it's too sweet, even the real sugar stuff. And the high fructose regular ol' Coke is just gross.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (oZ6kz)

I take mine on the rocks.

Because it's a drug and I'm addicted.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (bcbK8)

149 Pineapple Orange flavored Tang liquid


Sugar, sucralose or maltodextrin?

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (nRWPy)

150 down here is houston??
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2019 01:27 PM (JFO2v)

Yes indeed.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 11, 2019 01:33 PM (2DOZq)

151 144 I don't need sugar. I'm sweet enough.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (K/2j/)

Brick Top, is that you?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at July 11, 2019 01:33 PM (bcbK8)

152

Violet Beauregard was the girl Willy Wonka turned into a blueberry.

Posted by: Soothsayer at July 11, 2019 01:33 PM (VVr1J)

153 And margarine was Vaseline with butter flavoring added.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2019 01:33 PM (xfb67)

154 Smoke every day. Live to 70.

Never smoke. Live to 75.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (FbLDL)

do like my father in law - lead an incredibly active and wholesome life until you're 88 years old. Then lay in bed in a nursing home staring at a ceiling for 10 years because your bodies worn out but you're still too healthy to die.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2019 01:33 PM (Kpl3J)

155 A weakness?? I hope to Christ it's a weakness. There's more reliable information in the graffiti on men's room walls.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM


****

And you can find the number to Ace's Shelving Help Desk.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:33 PM (axyOa)

156 I've been trying to cut down and drink more water.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (Ez6QX)


Water is the first ingredient listed on the Diet Coke can.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (uLuPn)

157 Pineapple Orange flavored Tang liquid


Sugar, sucralose or maltodextrin?
Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (nRWPy)

Sugar free but Artificial sugar but don't know which one. I will have to look now.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (2DOZq)

158 21 After the food pyramid, who's surprised by this.
Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2019 12:28 PM (G0vdT)

Well, they're kind of linked.

At least when I was taught the food pyramid by health teachers and others when I was a young lad, I was told that drinking fruit was the same as eating fruit, and since the food pyramid had the bottom tier as "breads and cereals" and the second tier as "vegetables and fruits," I remember being told we were supposed to eat / drink a lot of fruit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (GBteo)

159

The problem with sugary drinks are that they are full of sugar!

Seriously, though, adding pure glucose (which is what fructose is after one molecular transition), without a glycogen intermediary, is poison designed to make you fat:

"Fructose is metabolized primarily in your liver. Fructose can be used to make glucose through gluconeogenesis, or it can be used to produce energy through glycolysis. However, in contrast to glucose, fructose enters glycolysis at a step that bypasses the regulatory control exerted by phosphofructokinase. This allows unimpeded conversion of excess fructose into cholesterol and triglycerides that can raise your blood lipid levels and increase body fat."

https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/glucose-fructose-metabolism-6981.html

Posted by: imp at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (uKiy5)

160 aaaaand, back to meeting hell.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (bcbK8)

161 Life is the leading cause of death.

Think about it. The only people who die were once alive.

Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (rw1l7)

162 Getting close.
In Washington State they outlawed cigar bars and of course cigarettes are a big taboo.
But smoking a joint is both legal and encouraged.
I hate politicians.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (axyOa)


It's an artifact from the hippies. They hated their parents and their parents smoked cigarettes so the hippies hated cigarette smokers.

They never cared about the smoke or the cancer or anything. Hippies did all sorts of stuff that led them to early graves (earlier than smoking cigarettes ever would). They just hated their fathers and hated the cigarettes their fathers smoked. That's all this is about.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (bOCwl)

163 Aspartame still spikes blood sugar. Find something sweetened with sucralose, stevia, or erythitol if you must drink something sweet.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (nRWPy)

164 10 All studies are bullshit.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2019 12:26 PM (DrqHq)


This.

All dietary/ nutritional advice is bullshit, too. All. Of. It. Every last scintilla.

All those books on diet and nutrition are worth no more than predictions of global warming, viz., nothing. They're written to scam the rubes out of their money. Many follow in the stinky footsteps of Kevin Trudeau. Yeah, I'm looking at you, Gary Taubes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (208R5)

165 A weakness?? I hope to Christ it's a weakness. There's more reliable information in the graffiti on men's room walls.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:30 PM (208R5)

I found some great underage girls' phone numbers there!--Jeffey "I'm Finished. You Can Have Her Now, Bill" Epstein.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (m79Dg)

166 Oh no, I might end up dying at 75 instead of 95. I'll miss so much time with my grandkids that will never exist, and 20 more years of being in constant pain.
Posted by: Broseidon


Yeah. Develop Alzheimers and not know those 20 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (HDCbD)

167 Just remember those extra 5 years are at the end. The end you really live in pain. So why extend the agony?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (pw+jk)

168 The shocking thing is the Clinton sex tape involved Bill AND Hillary

Posted by: Regular joe at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (6/uwW)

169
I take moderation in moderation.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2019 01:31 PM (KUaJL)


Is that how you live dangerously?

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (uLuPn)

170 They already tell patients with cancer in remission to avoid eating high sugar foods, namely fruits like strawberries, because it would feed any cancer recurrence and mitigate the effects of any treatment they are on.

I don't know if sugar actually causes cancer, but having a high sugar intake would help nurture any fledgling cancer in your body that would otherwise be handled by your immune system and never present itself.

Posted by: cacnead at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (+/dRU)

171 The problem with sugary drinks are that they are full of sugar!

We shall reinstate prima nocte.

Posted by: Edward Longshanks at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (NWiLs)

172 All studies are bullshit."

99 percent of the time, yes.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (6qErC)

173 Oompa Loompa Doompity Doo
Life's a cruel joke and now yours is through
Oompa Loompa Dommpity Dee
Aren't you glad you didn't live healthily

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (oZ6kz)

174 It's 7/11 Day, which means free Slurpees for all.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (QkjLD)

175 The author of "The South Beach Diet" wrote that it is far better to eat the orange or the apple than to drink the juice.

Posted by: JAS at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (I5SAg)

176 Fuck sugar and cancer.

Posted by: counter intel triple agent at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (13dPG)

177 161 Life is the leading cause of death.

Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (rw1l7)


Close. The most toxic thing we're exposed to, and that all the time, every day?

Oxygen. Going away.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (208R5)

178 163 Aspartame still spikes blood sugar. Find something sweetened with sucralose, stevia, or erythitol if you must drink something sweet.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (nRWPy)


What's the yellow stuff?

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (uLuPn)

179 160 aaaaand, back to meeting hell.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (bcbK

==========

Just finished my last meeting in 4 minutes.

It was the final one on one with a girl who's last day is tomorrow. Moved her last 3 tasks to someone else and said goodbye.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (FbLDL)

180 177> Even worse if its Ozone.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (xfb67)

181 It's 7/11 Day, which means free Slurpees for all.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM



And sushi is half price!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (axyOa)

182 178 163 Aspartame still spikes blood sugar. Find something sweetened with sucralose, stevia, or erythitol if you must drink something sweet.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (nRWPy)


What's the yellow stuff?
Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (uLuPn)

Urine.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (NWiLs)

183 No offense to ace, who is just reporting, but why should I believe this set of studies?

Seriously. Why? Why is this set of studies any more reliable than what was pushed for decades about the food pyramid and low fat no high fat and no carbs and I haven't checked in the last half second for whatever the new thing is.

Brian Wansink was pretty much an outright fraud and this article itself notes that problems with prior findings.

How the hell am I supposed to believe this? Why should I? It's been decades of p hacking and all the rest to get published and now to go viral.

Again, I'm not slamming on ace or saying he's wrong or anything. I'm saying that the well is so tainted I have no idea what to believe.

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits Ragebunny - hopping all around at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (mf5HN)

184 What about purple drank?

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (f3/we)

185 Her chewing gum will lie in state.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:32 PM (NWiLs)


Well, if they left it on the bedpost, it would lose its flavor ...

Posted by: Adriane the Busker Critic ... at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (LPnfS)

186 168 The shocking thing is the Clinton sex tape involved Bill AND Hillary

Posted by: Regular joe at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (6/uwW)


Ewwwww!

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (uLuPn)

187 do like my father in law - lead an incredibly active and wholesome life until you're 88 years old. Then lay in bed in a nursing home staring at a ceiling for 10 years because your bodies worn out but you're still too healthy to die.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2019 01:33 PM (Kpl3J)

That's the rub of it, isn't it?

Like in theory, I want to live until I'm in my 90's.

But then I meet people in their 90's, and... yikes, I'm not sure that the quality of life (generalizing here) is anything to look forward to.

Mostly, their spouses are dead, their memories are failing, their families visit occasionally, they usually have to either live in a nursing home or be a burden on their retirement age kids, have all kinds of health and mobility-related issues... It doesn't look fun.

That being said, my brother in laws grandfather is 94 or so, still goes for walks every day, really fun guy, has a lot of friends, still mentally 100% there... so it's not universal.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (GBteo)

188 US Coast Guard storms submarine carrying thousands of pounds of drugs

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (QkjLD)

189 Reminds me that I haven't had my mid morning beers.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (pw+jk)

190 Well, I'm going to die of something.

Rather it be due to bourbon than a juice box.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (2BgZB)

191 What's the yellow stuff?
Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (uLuPn)

Urine.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (NWiLs)

aka Mountain Dew

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (xPJvm)

192 161 Life is the leading cause of death.

Think about it. The only people who die were once alive.
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM (rw1l7)

Conversely, birthdays are good for your health. The more of them you have, the longer you'll live.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (KUaJL)

193 "Study Finds Fruit Juice and Sugar-Sweetened Drinks Associated with Cancer, Artificially Sweetened Drinks Not Associated With Cancer"

Well, if Fruit Juice and Sugar-Sweetened Drinks associated with cancer, maybe they just got in with a bad element when they were younger. Artificially Sweetened Drinks had stricter parents.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (m79Dg)

194 Have any stats on the number of insulin resistant people running around? It's got to be over half.

I started intermittent fasting 2 weeks ago. 20+ Hours every day. 1 meal. Lost 10 pounds so far. Carbs are basically killing everyone. "only get hungry when I eat" - it's true!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (0lFO7)

195
Urine.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (NWiLs)


You are so bad.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (uLuPn)

196
do like my father in law - lead an incredibly active and wholesome life until you're 88 years old. Then lay in bed in a nursing home staring at a ceiling for 10 years because your bodies worn out but you're still too healthy to die.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2019 01:33 PM


***
Same thing with my MnL. 96 now and her heart just keeps beating. Not much else working.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (axyOa)

197

the high fructose regular ol' Coke is just gross.
Posted by: Broseidon


Amen to that! Non-diet drinks are just disgusting, and leave my mouth feeling like the bottom of a shoe after 5 minutes.

Posted by: imp at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (uKiy5)

198 100% of people who drink water will die.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (ZCfi+)

199 I love sweets. I do try to keep my intake *somewhat* moderate, but zeroing it out entirely would be a challenge.

As for El Tiempo, what I am waiting for is for that new Escalantes on Bay Area to open. Y'all will probably find me there stuffing my face with nachos, queso, and cilantro rice at least one day a month.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (iK+0P)

200 Dave Chappelle Show is cancelled.

New York Times Arts
@nytimesarts
Dave Chappelle hasn't adjusted his material for Broadway: he's still defending wealthy, famous men like Louis C.K. and making jokes about transgender people

Dave Chappelle on Broadway: The Joke Is Getting Old
The comic hasn't adjusted his material for the setting: he's still defending wealthy, famous peers and joking about transgender targets.

-
Racist bastard!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (+y/Ru)

201 172 All studies are bullshit."

99 percent of the time, yes.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (6qErC)

==========

There's a massive replication problem in science right now.

If I were running a journal, I'd look into the idea of publishing nothing that didn't have replication in another independent study already. It wouldn't work. The authors would just go to another journal, but it's the sort of thing that probably needs to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (FbLDL)

202 They never cared about the smoke or the cancer or anything. Hippies did all sorts of stuff that led them to early graves (earlier than smoking cigarettes ever would). They just hated their fathers and hated the cigarettes their fathers smoked. That's all this is about.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Yeah. LOL. Because heroin is so much healthier.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (HDCbD)

203 Is this going to affect southern cuisine? O noes

Posted by: Total Control Racist at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (f3/we)

204 195
Urine.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:36 PM (NWiLs)


You are so bad.
Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (uLuPn)

I get that a lot.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (NWiLs)

205 US Coast Guard storms submarine carrying thousands of pounds of drugs
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (QkjLD)

Did they get in through the screen door?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (m79Dg)

206 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2019 01:34 PM"

Pretty much, yeah.

*looks up Bob Newhart Sir Walter Raleigh skit*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (6qErC)

207 I wanna t-bone steak with onion rings and cheese fries.

Posted by: Edgar Friendly at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (gmo/4)

208 What do you get when you stick to a plan
Work out and eat right to be a fit man
How do you feel when you're aged and sad
Maybe you think that you've - been - had?
Perhaps your doctors lied to you

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (oZ6kz)

209 With one notable exception, nobody gets out of this world alive.

I really have a hard time taking any of these "studies" seriously any longer.

Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, now with extra hardware at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (AM1GF)

210 The science shows....

Posted by: Ha at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (MAstk)

211 Hellooooooo nurse!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (NWiLs)

212 200 Dave Chappelle Show is cancelled.

New York Times Arts
@nytimesarts
Dave Chappelle hasn't adjusted his material for Broadway: he's still defending wealthy, famous men like Louis C.K. and making jokes about transgender people

Dave Chappelle on Broadway: The Joke Is Getting Old
The comic hasn't adjusted his material for the setting: he's still defending wealthy, famous peers and joking about transgender targets.

-
Racist bastard!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (+y/Ru)

==========

And yet his Netflix specials are apparently really popular.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (FbLDL)

213 I don't know if sugar actually causes cancer, but having a high sugar intake would help nurture any fledgling cancer in your body that would otherwise be handled by your immune system and never present itself.
Posted by: cacnead at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (+/dRU)


Breathing also helps to nurture any fledgling cancer in your body.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (208R5)

214 10 All studies are bullshit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop
-------
Yep. And will be as long as they have skin in the game (e.g. grants, stipends, etc.).

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (Fgc0C)

215 175 The author of "The South Beach Diet" wrote that it is far better to eat the orange or the apple than to drink the juice.
Posted by: JAS at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (I5SAg)

Undoubtedly true.

Have you ever drank fruit juice without added sugar? It's almost undrinkable haha

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (GBteo)

216 Excessive sugar makes you fat.

Fat leads to health problems, including cancer.

Sugar associated with cancer.

I'm not sure if can completely connect those dots. It's being an obese sloth that increases your chances on developing cancer. Can sugar contribute to becoming an obese sloth? Yes.

But I don't necessarily link those two, any more than say laying on the couch is associated with cancer.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (YA914)

217 Great now I'm going to be coming up with Oompa Loompa songs all day.

Who made me this way???

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (oZ6kz)

218 I saw Fledgling Cancer open for Third Eye Blind once.

The sound wasn't working right.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (2BgZB)

219 Eat right, live healthy, still die.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (J+mig)

220 Everything gives you cancer
There's no cure, there's no answer
Everything gives you cancer

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (QkjLD)

221 Yesterday OCrazyHo was accusing Pelosi of "RACISS!"
Today she's accusing Pelosi of "making her feel unsafe".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (JUUk1)

222 207 I wanna t-bone steak with onion rings and cheese fries.

Posted by: Edgar Friendly at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (gmo/4)

Texas Roadhouse FTW!

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (uLuPn)

223 Breathing also helps to nurture any fledgling cancer in your body.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (208R5)

The answer is intermittent oxygen fasting. You have an 8-hour breathing window out of each 24 hour period.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (NWiLs)

224 1) Sugar is bad for you. Avoid it.
2) Most so-called "medical studies" are bullshit, and this one probably is, too.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (tu3iY)

225 The problem we have isn't that sugar is bad, its that too much of anything is bad and we're sucking down sugar like Hillary on election night with her six pack of Courvoisier. Sugar is in EVERYTHING, whether fructose or sucrose or high fructose corn syrup, or dextrose or whatever variation. Some foods have several different KINDS of sugar in them. And its in stuff that should never have sugar in it to begin with.

Americans suck down fist fulls of the stuff every meal, and that's not gonna be harmful somehow??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (39g3+)

226 217 Great now I'm going to be coming up with Oompa Loompa songs all day.

Who made me this way???
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (oZ6kz)

=======

Just ask what Brian Boitano would do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (FbLDL)

227 Juice-boxers hardest hit.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (Dh1wo)

228 So Mountain Dew is good to go.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (2LelM)

229 Me and HFCS - a few years back I had 2 kidney stone attacks within a year - incredibly painful, I did not want to repeat the experience! (first time I went to the hospital, 2nd time I stayed home and suffer, since the hospital didn't do anything except say "here lay in bed and drink water till it passes, yeah that might take a couple days".

So, I did a lot of research and found there's quite a link between HFCS and kidney stones. Not for everybody, but if you're genetically susceptible to developing stones, then HFCS is like a 10X multiplier on that tendency. So, I cut them out of my diet, and it wasn't that hard - I don't need to drink sodas, there's other things I like just as well, same for any other products loaded up with HFCS. It's been about 12 years since I mostly cut it out of my diet (i'll have one soda every once in a while) and not a single kidney stone since I did it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (Kpl3J)

230 Hiya handsome! I miss you!

*wiggles butt, preparing to pounce *

Posted by: Nurse ratched at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (ZCfi+)

231 Cancer was not such a problem when people drank plenty of polluted surface water that contained all sorts of feces and urine remnants and dead animal carcasses.

Posted by: Undocumented at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (5NMZN)

232
Texas Roadhouse FTW!

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM


***

This.
I miss them.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (axyOa)

233 I cut my sugar way down in 2010. About an 80g per day reduction which adds up to about 600 pounds of sugar my body had not had to deal with over the last 9 years.

Also feel much better overall. It took about a month to get that benefit but it is very noticeable. I do not count carbs as such.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (5mVeG)

234 221 Yesterday OCrazyHo was accusing Pelosi of "RACISS!"
Today she's accusing Pelosi of "making her feel unsafe".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (JUUk1)

I can see where she would feel like that. Nancy is a scary old witch.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (uLuPn)

235 226 217 Great now I'm going to be coming up with Oompa Loompa songs all day.

Who made me this way???
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (oZ6kz)

=======

Just ask what Brian Boitano would do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (FbLDL)

He'd surely drink a Coke or two

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (NWiLs)

236 205 US Coast Guard storms submarine carrying thousands of pounds of drugs
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM (QkjLD)


The CG brought drugs into the sub?

Huh

Posted by: Ha at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (MAstk)

237
Dave Chappelle's net worth is $45m.

I imagine he'll survive the loss-of-income from some NPCs on Broadway.

And, he can sleep at night knowing he's not a little bitch.

Same with Kevin Hart pulling out of the Oscars.

How come rich whites can't figure this out? Grow a weiner, dudes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (AzW6q)

238 "Fructose is metabolized primarily in your liver. Fructose can be used to make glucose through gluconeogenesis, or it can be used to produce energy through glycolysis. However, in contrast to glucose, fructose enters glycolysis at a step that bypasses the regulatory control exerted by phosphofructokinase. This allows unimpeded conversion of excess fructose into cholesterol and triglycerides that can raise your blood lipid levels and increase body fat."


It's like reading a chinese phonebook.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (oVJmc)

239 My study can beat up your study.

Posted by: Weasel at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (MVjcR)

240
There's a massive replication problem in science right now.

If I were running a journal, I'd look into the idea of publishing nothing that didn't have replication in another independent study already. It wouldn't work. The authors would just go to another journal, but it's the sort of thing that probably needs to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (FbLDL)

It's largely because they don't understand stats(neither do many statisticians).

Hypothesis testing is essentially a fraud.(tests of statistical significance)

Posted by: Someguy at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (p997d)

241 Your body turns everything you eat into sugar to feed your cells. Adding sugar to food is simply a waste of time and resources.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (bQngX)

242 235 Just ask what Brian Boitano would do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (FbLDL)

He'd surely drink a Coke or two
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:41 PM (NWiLs)

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That's what Brian Boitano'd do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (FbLDL)

243 Oh no. I'm going to get pounced on. Eek. Stop. Don't.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (NWiLs)

244 As for this study? Buncha crap like they almost all are. Its too easy for an industry to get a study to say anything they want. Its too easy for a crap study to get big headlines no matter how bad it is.

I remember a story recently that showed that over half of the studies examined -- peer reviewed no less -- were not reproducible. As in spurious, fake, poorly done, not scientific.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (39g3+)

245 explosive diarrhea


I saw them open for the Butthole Surfers in Cleveland in 87!!

Posted by: I love my job at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (nEOLy)

246 There's a massive replication problem in science right now.

If I were running a journal, I'd look into the idea of publishing nothing that didn't have replication in another independent study already. It wouldn't work. The authors would just go to another journal, but it's the sort of thing that probably needs to happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (FbLDL)


Most definitely, and it is largely confined to the social "sciences" and biomedical sciences.

Physics (outside of climastrology) and chemistry are OK. But the biomedical literature consists largely of meadow full of cow pies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (208R5)

247 Still, the American government declared a War on Eggs and Meat based on much, much weaker survey-style studies.


_________


In now cynical hindsight, I'll take "What was the early influence of the lefty/vegetarian/vegan lobby for several billion dollars, Alex!"

Posted by: ShainS -- There are but two Parties now: Traitors and Patriots at July 11, 2019 01:43 PM (sr0Gq)

248 US Coast Guard storms submarine carrying thousands of pounds of drugs
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM

***

Not a lot of pouncing n the USCG.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:43 PM (axyOa)

249 This, like all the other studies about human food intake and nutrition, is epidemiology (i.e., bullshit). All the data comes from surveys and most of those are self-administered. I understand the problem: you can't have big separate groups of humans in labs and feed them only what you want to test.

But epidemiology is still BS.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at July 11, 2019 01:43 PM (aW5/6)

250 IDK, Alex. But I know when I eradicated all sugars (less than 11g a day) from my diet, as well as grains and starches which easily metabolize into sugar, all my health numbers corrected to perfect, I dropped 80 lbs, all my aches and pains and stomach issues disappeared and I feel 30 years younger. Also, no more jittery feelings and real hunger shows up but not the other "sick" feeling hunger. I also need less sleep, have no headaches, concentrate better and look hot in white jeans.

So I'm a believer because it made SUCH a huge difference in my life, mostly in how I feel and the energy I have. I'd tried before but didn't know that it wasn't calories in/calories out but more about insulin dumps which is the driver of obesity.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:43 PM (nRWPy)

251 Today she's accusing Pelosi of "making her feel unsafe".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (JUUk1) ,


Link?

Posted by: Ha at July 11, 2019 01:43 PM (MAstk)

252 240
There's a massive replication problem in science right now.

If I were running a journal, I'd look into the idea of publishing nothing that didn't have replication in another independent study already. It wouldn't work. The authors would just go to another journal, but it's the sort of thing that probably needs to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (FbLDL)

It's largely because they don't understand stats(neither do many statisticians).

Hypothesis testing is essentially a fraud.(tests of statistical significance)
Posted by: Someguy at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (p997d)

==========

In my MS program for statistics, I brought a study to my professor's attention that linked sugar intake with violent behavior.

He ended up asking the author of the study for the data, and the author refused. This pissed off my professor rather entertainingly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:43 PM (FbLDL)

253 245 explosive diarrhea


I saw them open for the Butthole Surfers in Cleveland in 87!!
Posted by: I love my job at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (nEOLy)

I think it was the other way 'round.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:44 PM (NWiLs)

254 "has he asked for anything special?

yes, he requested something called wheat germ, organic honey and tiger's milk.

oh yes, those are the substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.

you mean there was no deep fat, no steak or cream pies ... or hot fudge?

those were thought to be unhealthy. precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.

incredible."

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 11, 2019 01:44 PM (Pg+x7)

255 But I agree that self-reporting studies are horse shit.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:44 PM (nRWPy)

256 Countdown to Ace coming in to tell us food causes cancer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2019 01:44 PM (oVJmc)

257 163 Aspartame still spikes blood sugar. Find something sweetened with sucralose, stevia, or erythitol if you must drink something sweet.
Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM (nRWPy)

Just looked at it. It is Sucralose.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 11, 2019 01:44 PM (2DOZq)

258 I love fruit juice!

Posted by: Mayor Pete at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (Izzlo)

259 Sitting on you ass all day reading studies can give you cancer. Or at least hemorrhoids.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (axyOa)

260 Dow Jones Industrial hit 27,000 for the first time ever.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (QkjLD)

261 Typical anti-semite. Blaming the Juice.
Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2019 12:27 PM (yfm5M)


Well done sir.

Posted by: DR.WTF at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (aS1PU)

262 Yesterday OCrazyHo was accusing Pelosi of "RACISS!"
Today she's accusing Pelosi of "making her feel unsafe".



Leave the College Culture at the door, bitch.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (oVJmc)

263 I worked at a software company that supplied free beverages and snacks. As with all good things, some fellow employees got all whiny about the selection of **free stuff** from the company.

"Why isn't it healthier, why do you get this brand of chips but not that one, what about my [insert food allergy/peculiarity here]???" Argh!

The worst was when they announced they had listened to complainers concerned employees and would start stocking fruit juice in place of some of the free soda offerings. Oh, what a mess. A concerned new parent employee immediately 'reply alll'd' this announcement with all sort of stats about how damaging fruit juice is blah blah blah from some parenting magazine.

I am neutral on fruit juice, health-wise. I like it, but yeah, I can see how the "experts" who usually nanny our food/beverage intake have once again steered us wrong. It's better to take your health into your own hands and not expect others to decide or dictate what is good or bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (bDqIh)

264 I love fruit juice!

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Even better is a juicy fruit.

Posted by: G at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (5NMZN)

265 Still, the American government declared a War on Eggs and Meat based on much, much weaker survey-style studies.

This is what is so frustrating. Government policy being dictated by crap studies or isolated events. Most recent example: its now a regulation that ice cream tubs MUST have that protective plastic seal around them now because two people molested ice cream. In the history of ice cream, two people, over centuries. And now its gotta be a federal law??? This is why stuff costs so damned much.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (39g3+)

266 I will say this, the intermittent fasting stuff makes me laugh like a loon. Why? Because I don't eat breakfast and haven't since I was about 13 or 14.

It is my normal routine to go without eating from say 7 or 8 at night until 12:30 p.m. or 1 p.m. the next day. That's every day. That's routinely 14-16 hours between one meal and the next and say a 7 to 8 hour window where I eat.

I'm fat as all get out.

Yeah, intermittent fasting is not some cure all. Mind you, I have the eating habits of an unsupervised six year old at a birthday party so that's the primary thing. But this whole oh intermittent fast! The pounds will fall off no matter what you do! Hahahahahahahahahaha no.

Now what would be interesting is seeing what would happen if I went to eating three meals a day at set times. In other words, is it the metabolism disruption of the intermittent fasting that is key. So since my store bought metabolism is set for that gap, would disrupting that have the same effect on me?

*shoves cookies into maw*

It's a mystery.

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits Ragebunny - hopping all around at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (mf5HN)

267 260 Dow Jones Industrial hit 27,000 for the first time ever.
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (QkjLD)
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I remember thinking I'd go to cash when the Dow hit 6000.

Posted by: Weasel at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (MVjcR)

268 What do you get when you act as a tot?
Can't find the work after puberty stops
Life after fame is a horrible trick
Now you're just that dead blueberry chick

Perhaps you should have studied more

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (oZ6kz)

269 I remember a story recently that showed that over half of the studies examined -- peer reviewed no less -- were not reproducible. As in spurious, fake, poorly done, not scientific.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (39g3+)


Amgen famously tried to replicate something like 47 landmark papers in molecular biology, but only about half a dozen could be replicated (IIRC).

That's not good.

For those who are interested, I recommend Retraction Watch (https://retractionwatch.com/).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (208R5)

270 263
I am neutral on fruit juice, health-wise. I like it, but yeah, I can see how the "experts" who usually nanny our food/beverage intake have once again steered us wrong. It's better to take your health into your own hands and not expect others to decide or dictate what is good or bad.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (bDqIh)

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I agree.

*takes giant bite out of lard pile on my desk*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (FbLDL)

271
She feels "unsafe." LOL, AOC - nice play.

She doesn't feel unsafe. She's had Pelosi on the ropes from day one. She's just battering the old broad, now.

Even if they manage to redistrict Tombstone Teeth out of existence, Pelosi will never recover the loss of prestige. She's just a placeholder at this point.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (AzW6q)

272 Just looked at it. It is Sucralose.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 11, 2019 01:44 PM (2DOZq)

You're good then. Doesn't spike blood sugar.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (nRWPy)

273 "They change the 'Official' recommendation on how you should brush your fucking teeth every six months. Why would you think "they" really know anything about anything?"

Wisdom from Sharkman, Vol. 1, page 1.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (bQngX)

274 I fucking love juice.

Posted by: Hipster Hitler at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (AURKQ)

275 I don't know about all this, but when you have a PET scan to look for tumors, they inject you with radioactive glucose and then look for it, because tumors love glucose.

Posted by: annem at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (bM37c)

276 House Democrats seemed determined to throw the 2020 election. They just authorized 12 new subpoenas for Trump personnel including Flynn, Kushner, Session and Rosenstein.

They aren't even pretending to do their jobs any more.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (K/2j/)

277 Nazi Pelosi makes me feel unsafe.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (+y/Ru)

278 Speaking of science (from Brietbart): A study found 80 percent of Americans say biologists should decide the question of when life begins, and, when more than 5,500 biologists were then asked that question, 96 percent affirmed life begins at fertilization.
4 percent of these biologists need to go back to school. Forget the political aspects, this is obvious.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2019 01:47 PM (r+sAi)

279 255 But I agree that self-reporting studies are horse shit.


97% of studies report they are correct 100% of the time.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2019 01:47 PM (oVJmc)

280 In all seriousness, I'm past the point where I believe that any one "ingredient" will give you cancer or kill you.

If you eat enough veggies and fruits and nuts and grains and meat and not sit on your ass all day and all night with a tub full of corn syrup and seltzer playing video games, your body will absorb caffeine, chocolate ,salt, a beer, some wine and yes, sugar--without a problem.

The scare tactics they use are designed to control us--and scare us into giving up more and more of our freedom.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 01:47 PM (NFEMn)

281 276 House Democrats seemed determined to throw the 2020 election. They just authorized 12 new subpoenas for Trump personnel including Flynn, Kushner, Session and Rosenstein.

They aren't even pretending to do their jobs any more.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (K/2j/)

=========

Retort:

No one cares about the House of Representatives' work output.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:47 PM (FbLDL)

282 All Hail the Sugar God.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2019 01:47 PM (DrqHq)

283 what if the sugar is fermented into wine? I wonder if alcohol is better, in moderation.

And the fake sugars are safer ... that is interesting. Diet Coke for the win? Forget the 100% juice, go for the fake stuff, I guess. I used to do almost zero white sugar stuff ... need to go back to that. Eggs from the chickens, some vegies, bacon and red meat ... OK.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 11, 2019 01:47 PM (Cus5s)

284 My mother was into all that health food shit when I was a kid. Probably stunted my growth.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2019 01:47 PM (NWiLs)

285 Have you ever drank fruit juice without added sugar? It's almost undrinkable haha
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (GBteo)


Come across the river this Fall when I'm making cider. You might change your tune on that.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 11, 2019 01:48 PM (kUmUV)

286 There's a guy, William Briggs, who wrote a great book on probability in which he addressed some of the issues with how stats is taught and used.

Posted by: Someguy at July 11, 2019 01:48 PM (p997d)

287 >>Yesterday OCrazyHo was accusing Pelosi of "RACISS!"
Today she's accusing Pelosi of "making her feel unsafe".



Pelosi is getting a grade A lesson in what college campuses are brainwashing kids into saying/doing to their colleagues and employers.

This is a hoot!!

*pops popcorn*

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2019 01:48 PM (bDqIh)

288
She's just battering the old broad, now.


To be fair that's the only way to make old broads edible.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 11, 2019 01:48 PM (TAmPV)

289 >>> A weakness in the study is that it's just a questionnaire and self-tracking type of study, and people are usually not great at remembering and reporting everything they ate or drank.

Self tracking studies like this are a red flag for me, since so many of them have been used to "prove" keto is the devil. People are completely unreliable at self reporting every milligram of everything they eat. since the study pings my keto happy confirmation bias, I'll have to look it over with a lot of scrutiny to see if it holds up.

>>> Still, the American government declared a War on Eggs and Meat based on much, much weaker survey-style studies.

YES. THIS. You can pry my steak and brats from my cold, dead hands, government. (Oh and they will try to. The meat = global warming = we must all be vegetarians or eating bugs schtick is ratcheting up bigly. The science is settled!)

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2019 01:48 PM (hvf9s)

290 That criticism of Chappelle - coming from someone who thinks the sum total of Comedy is "Ha - Trump!! AmiRight??"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (Kpl3J)

291 I find this study's write-up to be turgid even for this kind of epidemiological paper. (Maybe ESL is an issue?) But if I am understanding this right, they are reporting a 1.18 odds ratio for sugary drinks and overall cancer. No one in their right mind would consider an odds ratio of 1.18 to be an alarming association. (An odds ratio of 1 indicates no association.)

Am I reading the study right?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (iys0/)

292 So I'm a believer because it made SUCH a huge difference in my life, mostly in how I feel and the energy I have. I'd tried before but didn't know that it wasn't calories in/calories out but more about insulin dumps which is the driver of obesity.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:43 PM (nRWPy)



See, that's actual data though. You have a baseline of before, you know what the input/output variables are, and you have practical results. Also, though of course I'm not suggesting this, it can be controlled Okay. Introduce sugar back into your diet and see if you balloon back up. (Don't do that).

That's actual science.

p hacking data sets and teasing out remote causation isn't.

I am interested in the gut bacteria theory because it explains why different people have such wildly different reactions to the same foods.

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits Ragebunny - hopping all around at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (mf5HN)

293 290 That criticism of Chappelle - coming from someone who thinks the sum total of Comedy is "Ha - Trump!! AmiRight??"
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (Kpl3J)

=========

They never laughed until 2015.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (FbLDL)

294 I refuse to believe I'm the only one getting a laugh out of imagining Oompa Loompas singing songs at the funerals of all the actors who played the Wonka kids.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (oZ6kz)

295 Ever notice you never see any fat elderly people?

Obesity is a death sentence. It causes all kinds of trouble. Carbs are what causes this. Get your weight under control.

Intermittent Fasting. Lose weight without trying. It works. Eat what you want. Just not snacking on industrial shit.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (0lFO7)

296 He ended up asking the author of the study for the data, and the author refused. This pissed off my professor rather entertainingly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:43 PM (FbLDL)


Just like the climastrologists, who did the same thing on the basis that "people would try to poke holes in our work."

Well, yeah. That's the idea: to see if they can.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (208R5)

297 Gimme some juice, baby!

Posted by: Little Lupe at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (vtcmf)

298 296 He ended up asking the author of the study for the data, and the author refused. This pissed off my professor rather entertainingly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:43 PM (FbLDL)

Just like the climastrologists, who did the same thing on the basis that "people would try to poke holes in our work."

Well, yeah. That's the idea: to see if they can.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (208R5)

===========

"Science is believing me without proof."

"No, that's religion."

"Science denier!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (FbLDL)

299 > Today she's accusing Pelosi of "making her feel unsafe".

> Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (JUUk1) ,


> Link? Posted by: Ha

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1149367947174928385

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (JUUk1)

300 Pelosi is getting a grade A lesson in what college campuses are brainwashing kids into saying/doing to their colleagues and employers.

This is a hoot!!

*pops popcorn*
Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2019 01:48 PM (bDqIh)

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I ♥♥♥ this more than anything else going on in American politics right now.

It's like they've scripted this solely for my satisfaction.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (AzW6q)

301 But I agree that self-reporting studies are horse shit.
Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:44 PM (nRWPy)

Every guy on the internet--in self reported surveys-- has a penis nine inches long and six inches around.

Of course it's all bullshit.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (NFEMn)

302 Big Sugar made Michael Moore fat.
....
I was not here, I did not say this.

Posted by: 3rd Stage Guild Navigator at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (r0YGN)

303 5,500 biologists were then asked that question, 96 percent affirmed life begins at fertilization.


Anyone who has ever used a condom knows this.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (uLuPn)

304 302 Big Sugar made Michael Moore fat.
....
I was not here, I did not say this.
Posted by: 3rd Stage Guild Navigator at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (r0YGN)

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This should not have made me laugh, but it did.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (FbLDL)

305 Amgen famously tried to replicate something like 47 landmark papers in molecular biology, but only about half a dozen could be replicated (IIRC).

And that wouldn't be such a problem if people didn't treat scientists as if they are the voice of God and infallible. A guy in a lab coat is no better, smarter, or virtuous than a guy with a hardhat on or any other job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (39g3+)

306 I'm conducting a study on the amount of happiness contained in a giant bag of peanut M&Ms.

Posted by: Weasel at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (MVjcR)

307 303 5,500 biologists were then asked that question, 96 percent affirmed life begins at fertilization.


Anyone who has ever used a condom knows this.
Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (uLuPn)

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That explains Bill Clinton.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (FbLDL)

308 Big Sugar made Michael Moore fat.
*****
Sure wasn't Big Pussy

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (BqBId)

309 AOC has GOT to be a Trump plant.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (NFEMn)

310 Dave Chappelle on Broadway: The Joke Is Getting Old
The comic hasn't adjusted his material for the setting: he's still defending wealthy, famous peers and joking about transgender targets.

-
Racist bastard!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 11, 2019 01:38 PM (+y/Ru)

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And yet his Netflix specials are apparently really popular.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:39 PM (FbLDL)

Yeah, I threw away $50 million. Boy, was I an idiot! Now I want to get it back. Just tell me what to do, Netflix!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (m79Dg)

311 Just like the climastrologists, who did the same thing on the basis that "people would try to poke holes in our work."

Well, yeah. That's the idea: to see if they can.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (208R5)

Academic types like to pretend that this is what peer review is.

Posted by: Someguy at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (p997d)

312 US Coast Guard storms submarine carrying thousands of pounds of drugs
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:37 PM

***

Not a lot of pouncing n the USCG.
Posted by: Diogenes


Coasties don's sashay or mince. Coasties storm.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (HDCbD)

313 >>I agree.

*takes giant bite out of lard pile on my desk*


And I bet you could find some study that affirms that yes, including a bit of lard in your diet has healthful benefits, as well as one that says no, avoid lard because it will kill you.

There is a study for everything now.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (bDqIh)

314 I refuse to believe I'm the only one getting a laugh out of imagining Oompa Loompas singing songs at the funerals of all the actors who played the Wonka kids.

Each song has to have a moral about their lives too

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (39g3+)

315 I was encouraged to go on a plant based diet last year by my oncologist. I have a type of blood cancer that is caused by a specific mutation. It was diagnosed after it caused a brainstem stroke. Very serious business.
Upshot is my body reacts very poorly to animal protein of any kind. So I eat vegan. Which I wouldn't have ever thought I would do. But I went from taking 12 medications to 4 and feel better than I have in years. No study for this.

Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (rw1l7)

316 AOC has GOT to be a Trump plant.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (NFEMn)

Well, she has the IQ of a plant.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (m79Dg)

317 309 AOC has GOT to be a Trump plant.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (NFEMn)

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Just like Hillary never stopped being a Goldwater girl. Her attempt at health care led to the Republican House. Her run for the presidency in 2016 gave us Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (FbLDL)

318 > Just like the climastrologists, who did the same thing on the basis that "people would try to poke holes in our work."

When one of my friends was in med school, he had a class that involved inviting the author of a paper to present it (a different author every week).

How you got points in the class was by finding flaws in the paper.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (JUUk1)

319 Just remember those extra 5 years are at the end. The end you really live in pain. So why extend the agony?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:35 PM

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Maybe thanks to the sugar and cigarettes you start the pain and agony five years earlier?

I thought I wouldn't live to sixty. I will be 60 in fifteen months.

Posted by: rd at July 11, 2019 01:53 PM (EK+Pw)

320 I guess for this topic, we really needed Augustus Gloop to die.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at July 11, 2019 01:53 PM (9Qsvx)

321 Since we're talking about Houston restaurants (OK, two people were, 200 comments ago), you can see plenty of fat elderly people at Kelley's.

(The Kelleys grew up a couple streets over from my dad, by the way. If you've had their fried shrimp and found yourself drooling over the batter - that is my grandmother's recipe.)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 11, 2019 01:53 PM (iK+0P)

322 318 > Just like the climastrologists, who did the same thing on the basis that "people would try to poke holes in our work."

When one of my friends was in med school, he had a class that involved inviting the author of a paper to present it (a different author every week).

How you got points in the class was by finding flaws in the paper.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (JUUk1)

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I'm guessing Michael Mann never showed up, or else you'd still be in court.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:53 PM (FbLDL)

323 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (JUUk1)


Thx

Posted by: Ha at July 11, 2019 01:53 PM (MAstk)

324 The 100 Proof Liquor, Cocaine and Cigarette Diet is very effective for weight loss.

Send me $449.95 for my complete, easy to follow, 7 day nutrition plan, workout plan and book explaining how it works.

* Straws not available in some locations
** Whores not included

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 11, 2019 01:53 PM (YA914)

325 I refuse to believe I'm the only one getting a laugh out of imagining Oompa Loompas singing songs at the funerals of all the actors who played the Wonka kids.

"Oompa loompa doompity dunt
This little girl became a real---"
--Oompa Loompa funeral singers

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:54 PM (39g3+)

326 78 Water is the real killer. Everyone that drinks water dies.

Every. Single. Person.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:26 PM (pw+jk)


Dihydrogen monoxide is just as bad. It's in the very air that we breathe!!!!!!!

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2019 01:54 PM (AMIL/)

327 So I guess this means my twice daily hot fudge sundae is right out?

Posted by: Michael Moore at July 11, 2019 01:54 PM (1opb2)

328 Yeah, I threw away $50 million. Boy, was I an idiot! Now I want to get it back. Just tell me what to do, Netflix!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (m79Dg)

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It was $25m. He's still worth $45m. And, TBF, the criticisms of Dave Chappelle stem from the fact that he rips on transfreaks in those specials on Netflix.

I don't think Chappelle cares at this point. He never much did.

He'll be remembered as the funniest comic of his generation, and die rich. Why ruin it by kowtowing to them?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2019 01:54 PM (AzW6q)

329 Academic types like to pretend that this is what peer review is.
Posted by: Someguy at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (p997d)

We need more peers that eat paste. And boogers.--Climatology Researchers.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:54 PM (m79Dg)

330 Help me find the real killer!

Posted by: Orange Juice Simpson at July 11, 2019 01:54 PM (vtcmf)

331 Raising you blood sugar causes an insulin dump which stores fat. So the less often you raise your blood sugar the better. However, if you spike it WAY up when you do eat twice or once a day, you body still has to dump enough insulin to bring it down. Intermittant fasting doesn't always do anything, depending on what you eat.

For example, I only eat "no spike" foods for breakfast, so not eating then doesn't change anything for me. Eating eggs either at 6 am or 12pm doesn't cause me to release more insulin. If you eat grains, starches, and sugar after not having eaten for 16 hours, you're going to get a giant insulin dump, low blood sugar 3-4 hours later and increased hunger. I don't know that skipping a meal or a meal and snacks then does anything, but is probably better than continuously spiking blood sugar.

Posted by: dagny at July 11, 2019 01:54 PM (nRWPy)

332 291 I find this study's write-up to be turgid even for this kind of epidemiological paper. (Maybe ESL is an issue?) But if I am understanding this right, they are reporting a 1.18 odds ratio for sugary drinks and overall cancer. No one in their right mind would consider an odds ratio of 1.18 to be an alarming association. (An odds ratio of 1 indicates no association.)

Am I reading the study right?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (iys0/)


And to give a frame of reference for what I mean: I pulled a smoking/lung cancer study from the Interwebz, and it's odds ratio was 40.4.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2019 01:55 PM (iys0/)

333 AOC does not like when she gets a little slap-back, does she?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2019 01:55 PM (oVJmc)

334 yes, and yes
whole foods

now, OT

I have been wondering where weasel Paul Ryan was. Now we know. Writing a book trashing the President.

New Book: Former Speaker Paul Ryan's Retirement Was An "Escape Hatch" From Trump

h/t Daily Caller

scumbag

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 11, 2019 01:55 PM (vEIlU)

335 Coasties don's sashay or mince. Coasties storm.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (HDCbD)

Damn straight! (wife of a retired chief here)

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 01:55 PM (Ez6QX)

336 People don't like it when studies and science point out that socially acceptable things they consume are unhealthy and basically drugs. People sperg out.
Pass the cocaine.

Posted by: counter intel triple agent at July 11, 2019 01:55 PM (13dPG)

337 81 276 House Democrats seemed determined to throw the 2020 election. They just authorized 12 new subpoenas for Trump personnel including Flynn, Kushner, Session and Rosenstein.

They aren't even pretending to do their jobs any more.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (K/2j/)
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Retort:
No one cares about the House of Representatives' work output.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:47 PM (FbLDL)

Agree completely - they've gone all the way into sad joke territory. The only reason they're issuing these is because THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO. They went "all-in" on anti Trump, they have no legislative plans for anything, they have never even bothered thinking about coming up with any actual "plans" to do anything worthwhile. They could adjourn now until the 2020 elections, and it wouldn't make any difference to anyone. AND THEY KNOW IT.

So that's why they have to invent crazy shit to make it look like they're doing something, even though it's guaranteed to have zero real world results. Look what's guaranteed to happen with every one of these subpoenas - there will be sparring on what can be asked, or whether exec privilege applies, in the end some agreement limiting testimony will be worked out, the witness will show and sit stiffly for 3 or 4 hours while giving formulaic answers vetted by lawyers for 3 or 4 hours, and no one will watch, no one will care, no one will remember, and that will be that.

and that's the Congressional Dem's game plan for Winning the 2020 Elections!!! Brilliant, guys, just brilliant.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2019 01:55 PM (Kpl3J)

338 Just like the climastrologists, who did the same thing on the basis that "people would try to poke holes in our work."

You can tell you're not dealing with a real scientist if that's their approach.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:55 PM (39g3+)

339 Sin taxes on the juice boxes!

- California and New York

Posted by: Diesel Jones at July 11, 2019 01:55 PM (0CeRG)

340 260 Dow Jones Industrial hit 27,000 for the first time ever.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (QkjLD)

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Only 2 1/2 years later Obama's economic policies are kicking in under Trump. Imagine where we would be if Obama had been allowed to stay preezy. 70,000, 90,000, eleventy thousand. Too bad we will never get to know for the milk chocolate was stopped before he could show us the way.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:56 PM (pw+jk)

341 House Democrats seemed determined to throw the 2020 election. They just authorized 12 new subpoenas for Trump personnel including Flynn, Kushner, Session and Rosenstein.

They aren't even pretending to do their jobs any more.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2019 01:46 PM (K/2j/)

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Retort:

No one cares about the House of Representatives' work output.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


If they're not working, they're not fucking us.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2019 01:56 PM (HDCbD)

342 It was $25m. He's still worth $45m. And, TBF, the criticisms of Dave Chappelle stem from the fact that he rips on transfreaks in those specials on Netflix.

I don't think Chappelle cares at this point. He never much did.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2019 01:54 PM (AzW6q)

If he's worth $45 million, why is he still working, then? I mean if he doesn't care at this point.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:56 PM (m79Dg)

343 I'm not having a very productive day.

We all need one of those on occasion.

Posted by: ALH at July 11, 2019 01:56 PM (uLuPn)

344 Turn the sugary fruit juice into something a bit more, palatable?

Hi there!

Posted by: Yeast Bugs at July 11, 2019 01:56 PM (Vy7tf)

345 My pizzas should be ready in about 10 mins.

Posted by: BignJames at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (ykq7q)

346 > AOC does not like when she gets a little slap-back, does she?

Oh, I bet her "back" has been slapped more than once.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (JUUk1)

347
Is this even legal?

https://tinyurl.com/y2bdnwkk

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (AzW6q)

348 328 He'll be remembered as the funniest comic of his generation, and die rich. Why ruin it by kowtowing to them?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2019 01:54 PM (AzW6q)

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"I can't believe that the man who wrote the sketch about the black white supremacist would try to offend people!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (FbLDL)

349 I've always loved the fact that "corrective" taxes on excessive or unhealthy consumption of goods are termed "Pigout Taxes".

Just go ahead and tell me that the Universe doesn't have a sense of humor.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (AURKQ)

350 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (9vQJW)

351 Raising you blood sugar causes an insulin dump which stores fat. So the less often you raise your blood sugar the better. However, if you spike it WAY up when you do eat twice or once a day, you body still has to dump enough insulin to bring it down. Intermittant fasting doesn't always do anything, depending on what you eat.

Further, if your body has a period without food, it triggers your system to store more fat when you get food, in case that happens again. Fasting is training your body to pack on fat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (39g3+)

352 331...so if I gradually devour an entire bag of Mother's iced animal cookies over three days, I'm good because I kept the rate of intake steady? That's what I'm hearing you say. *goes to grocery store*

I have to stop reading this thread or I really will buy a bag of said cookies. Also, I have two meetings both starting at 1.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (iK+0P)

353 Cancer loves it the sugar.

It feeds off of sugar.

I personally know someone, a long time close friend, who had started getting massive headaches, went to the docs and was told he had stage 4 brain cancer. The regular docs basically said he was effed, go live out your final days.

A naturalistic medicine doctor who he knew for years met with him. After some tests that qualified him a certain treatment could work, that radically changing his diet that eliminated sugars and starches from his diet. That stuff turns to glucose, which the cancer feeds on.

He also ate foods that flooded his system with lactose, which essentially clogged the cancer cells from passing their waste, and the cancer died. It was pretty weird stuff, a bunch of green stuff that horses usually eat, some blueberries, and other stuff. It went into a blender and he had to drink it 4 times a day. It was pretty knarley. The purpose was to flood his system with lactose, to clog the cancer cells from functioning properly.

If you ever saw Star Trek's Trouble with Tribbles, they essentially died because their systems got clogged. That is what happened to my buddy.

He was originally given less than a year to live, that was about 15 years ago. It all happened in about a year. He went to the original cancer doc that told him he was finished and got another MRI, the 4 malignant tumors were gone. Completely eliminated. My buddy is doing fine. I saw a text from him a couple of days ago.

Obviously that was one person, one case. But the effective method, essentially filling the cancer cells with inert media so they can't crap and they die, was amazing to me.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (sy5kK)

354 Dow Jones Industrial hit 27,000 for the first time ever.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2019 01:45 PM (QkjLD)

===
Only 2 1/2 years later Obama's economic policies are kicking in under Trump. Imagine where we would be if Obama had been allowed to stay preezy. 70,000, 90,000, eleventy thousand. Too bad we will never get to know for the milk chocolate was stopped before he could show us the way.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at July 11, 2019 01:56 PM (pw+jk)

This is exactly what the replies to Trump's tweet about hitting 27K all say,
"Thanks, Obama."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 01:58 PM (NFEMn)

355 Millennials can't afford to live.

https://bit.ly/30velbw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 11, 2019 01:58 PM (+y/Ru)

356 I was encouraged to go on a plant based diet last year by my oncologist. I have a type of blood cancer that is caused by a specific mutation. It was diagnosed after it caused a brainstem stroke. Very serious business.
Upshot is my body reacts very poorly to animal protein of any kind. So I eat vegan. Which I wouldn't have ever thought I would do. But I went from taking 12 medications to 4 and feel better than I have in years. No study for this.
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at July 11, 2019 01:52 PM (rw1l7)


See, again, actual science.

That's why I get so mad about the replicability and fraud issues, especially when it's hard science and REALLY REALLY MAD when it's about oncology.

It is important to study and know so that we can develop new treatments. I want to know that, say, what would help my dad with his Parkinson's. I need to be able to trust the studies were done as best people can at that time. I don't have the knowledge to judge independently.

And all the fakery? Means I can't. Remember, the anti-vaxx stuff started because "Study shows".

Frankly, I find borderline evil the people who are outright lying about data for medical studies.

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits Ragebunny - hopping all around at July 11, 2019 01:58 PM (mf5HN)

357
338 Just like the climastrologists, who did the same thing on the basis that "people would try to poke holes in our work."

You can tell you're not dealing with a real scientist if that's their approach.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:55 PM (39g3+)

By volume I think they are the real scientists now. To be fair most famous scientists aren't exactly follow the evidence types. Galileo had his perfect circles, Newton had his magic.

Posted by: Someguy at July 11, 2019 01:58 PM (p997d)

358 If he's worth $45 million, why is he still working, then? I mean if he doesn't care at this point.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:56 PM (m79Dg)

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I think because he loves being a comedian. If they take the comedy out of it, I figure he'll just walk away - wouldn't be the first time he told rich bosses to go piss up a rope.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2019 01:58 PM (AzW6q)

359 If he's worth $45 million, why is he still working, then? I mean if he doesn't care at this point.

Maybe some people work for reasons other than money?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2019 01:58 PM (39g3+)

360 nood woddy and katie

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 11, 2019 01:59 PM (8D42x)

361

The problem with AOC et al., is that right now, she and her ilk are the nutballs, the outliers. What happens when the brainwashed masses of college students steeped in this miasma of identity thinking and Gramschian wrecking form a large enough electoral coalition to gain majorities or the presidency? I foresee nothing but doom.

Posted by: imp at July 11, 2019 01:59 PM (uKiy5)

362 dagny sounds like a legend. Probably looks that way too.

Posted by: counter intel triple agent at July 11, 2019 01:59 PM (13dPG)

363 aoc has said her intention is to agitate and push, push, push. there's now about 1/2 dozen in her radical caucus. her backers are targeting more vulnerable house seats (as threatened) with the goal of building a 2 dozen caucus (or so) and push, push, push their big leftist agenda. then, guess what, when the next recession hits they'll be positioned to take a majority.

they have big goals and knocking down speaker pelosi is part of the plan.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 11, 2019 01:59 PM (Pg+x7)

364 At least the study does not mention chocolate covered cake donuts.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 11, 2019 02:00 PM (e1mEI)

365 Obviously that was one person, one case. But the effective method, essentially filling the cancer cells with inert media so they can't crap and they die, was amazing to me.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (sy5kK)

Does he still avoid starches and have to drink that gross concoction every day?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 02:00 PM (NFEMn)

366 It's like reading a chinese phonebook.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2019 01:42 PM (oVJmc)


Heart only good for so many beats. Want to live long life? Slow down!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid's Chinese doctor at July 11, 2019 02:00 PM (Vy7tf)

367 Trust Me. You've never seen an elderly fat person, because they don't exist. They're dead.

Look up and study for a while on insulin resistance, look up how the body actually burns food, and what contributes to diabetes and other illnesses.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2019 02:00 PM (0lFO7)

368 299 > Today she's accusing Pelosi of "making her feel unsafe".

> Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:40 PM (JUUk1) ,


> Link? Posted by: Ha

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1149367947174928385
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (JUUk1)
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Oh jeesh, I didn't think their fighting could get better.

I was wrong.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2019 02:00 PM (G0vdT)

369 they have big goals and knocking down speaker pelosi is part of the plan.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 11, 2019 01:59 PM (Pg+x7)

That tough old broad ain't going to go don that easily

Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 02:01 PM (NFEMn)

370 126 My fluid crack right now is Pineapple Orange flavored Tang liquid . Squeeze it right into the bottled water. Just like crack I've had to squeeze more and more into the bottle to get the same high as when I started to drink it.

Mine is the koolaid. The cherry and the grape flavors.

Posted by: Lowfibass at July 11, 2019 02:01 PM (ujwI/)

371 Just checked the recommended diet of the US. Despite the absolute mountain of evidence to the contrary, they still recommend,

60% of your food be high sugar/carb foods.
25% of your food be high nutrient vegetables.
14% of your food be high protein/fat.

They just won't give up that bone. It's not about us being healthy, it's about them never having to admit they were wrong.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 11, 2019 02:01 PM (k3IMN)

372 328 Yeah, I threw away $50 million. Boy, was I an idiot! Now I want to get it back. Just tell me what to do, Netflix!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 11, 2019 01:51 PM (m79Dg)

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It was $25m. He's still worth $45m. And, TBF, the criticisms of Dave Chappelle stem from the fact that he rips on transfreaks in those specials on Netflix.

I don't think Chappelle cares at this point. He never much did.

He'll be remembered as the funniest comic of his generation, and die rich. Why ruin it by kowtowing to them?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Chappelle is one of the funniest dudes out there and I loved his show. Remember when he walked away some years ago turning down $40 or $50Mil. Folks speculated it was a slap towards the Whitey producers/directors but it wasn't. It was that they were trying to get him to tone it down and he said "GFYLOL".

He plays it like he sees it. Funniest bit I think I've ever seen was the skit he and Wayne Brady did - "I'm Wayne Brady b*tch). So funny, I'm gonna go look it up again..

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at July 11, 2019 02:02 PM (Fgc0C)

373 >>> AOC does not like when she gets a little slap-back, does she?


I don;t think she has much experience with politics and office politics. Sure, there was some at the bar, but not at the level she's operating now, and not with all of DC and the MSM watching.

Despite being very social media savvy, AOC is out of her league with Pelosi. I don't like Pelosi, and I am sure she can be a very nasty person, but she has got to have some legit skills in dealing with difficult people (probably a bit mafia-like).

I am rooting for the two of them destroying their party.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2019 02:03 PM (bDqIh)

374 Trust Me. You've never seen an elderly fat person, because they don't exist. They're dead.

Look up and study for a while on insulin resistance, look up how the body actually burns food, and what contributes to diabetes and other illnesses.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2019 02:00 PM (0lFO7)

My mom was always skinny but she gained weight in her 60's and developed adult onset diabetes. She's almost 80 now. Oh , and she just quit smoking 103 days ago after 65 years of smoking. She's an outlier.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 11, 2019 02:04 PM (zFzxj)

375 "With one notable exception, nobody gets out of this world alive. "

No. Even the Son of the Living God suffered and died.

Posted by: JAS at July 11, 2019 02:04 PM (I5SAg)

376 I see the relationship of cancer and sugar, I am curious about running to alkaline and cancer?

Posted by: found the sock at July 11, 2019 02:05 PM (Obadf)

377 They just won't give up that bone. It's not about us being healthy, it's about them never having to admit they were wrong.
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Either that or they want people sick and overwhelming the healthcare "system" so they can continue to control us through it. (My tinfoil hat talking). On the other hand, they do like grief, strife, suffering and turmoil, however.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 11, 2019 02:05 PM (vg8iE)

378 >>>Intermittent Fasting. Lose weight without trying. It works. Eat what you want. Just not snacking on industrial shit.

It does work but not everyone can "eat whatever they want." I can't, for example. I have to do IF plus keto/low carb.

Someone with less insulin resistance might be able to lose weight on IF alone.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2019 02:05 PM (PbpT7)

379 What about vodka? Russkie vs Scandinavian, for example. I have a Russkie friend who says that all Russian vodka is now trash. "You can make vodka out of any shit you want." He recommends Swedish or Finnish. Karlssons? Finlandia?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 11, 2019 02:05 PM (k3g2v)

380
If you put vodka in your orange juice it cuts the risk of disease in half. Probably.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 11, 2019 12:33 PM (gC2IV)








I can't say I'm 100% certain that this is the case, but why take chances?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2019 02:06 PM (eXA4G)

381 Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC



You just landed on my Daily Prayer List.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 11, 2019 02:06 PM (bQngX)

382 Well, at least you are diluting the sugar in the OJ.

Posted by: JAS at July 11, 2019 02:07 PM (I5SAg)

383 Executive Summary of French Sugar Study = Drink more French Wine!!!

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2019 02:07 PM (gmo/4)

384 The scare tactics they use are designed to control us--and scare us into giving up more and more of our freedom.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 01:47 PM (NFEMn)


I think the source of this rubbish is much more prosaic than that.

It's threefold:

1. Medical students (I understand) sometimes have to do a semester of "research." Now a semester is hardly time enough to learn how to do research, much less to do any. So they crank out some plausible rubbish, so they have something to show, and then move on.

2. Scam artists write poxy books with clickbait-style titles, and festoon departure lounges with them, and appear on talk shows to push them. They know their books are rubbish, but don't care.

3. Government wankers need to justify their jobs, and pick up on something in categories #1 or 2, and make it government policy so they look like they're doing something, too. Calling bullshit on #1 or 2 would get them in a firestorm, but promulgating them makes their life easy, and pleases especially category #2.

That's my take.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 02:07 PM (208R5)

385 Just like the climastrologists, who did the same thing on the basis that "people would try to poke holes in our work."

Well, yeah. That's the idea: to see if they can.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 01:49 PM (208R5)

===========

"Science is believing me without proof."

"No, that's religion."

"Science denier!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Buy Crystal Embers Today! at July 11, 2019 01:50 PM (FbLDL)


In one of his books, Feynman wrote about visiting CERN(?) once and how they were proud to show him a $100 million accelerator they had built just to test one of his conjectures.

Upon hearing that Feynman said, "Oh, so you don't trust me?"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 11, 2019 02:07 PM (bOCwl)

386 Beer is food.
Food is not beer.

Rules to live by.


I got a bag of ice at the grocery store. Printed on the bag was "Ice Is Food." Um, yeah. Pretty sure they didn't run that one by the FDA.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 11, 2019 02:07 PM (98dcd)

387 I see the relationship of cancer and sugar, I am curious about running to alkaline and cancer?
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About 20 years ago or so, a friend's teenage son was dying of cancer. She was trying to keep his system as alkaline as possible as she was told this would be helpful. He died anyway. I don't know if it had any effect.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 11, 2019 02:07 PM (vg8iE)

388 355 Millennials can't afford to live.

https://bit.ly/30velbw
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 11, 2019 01:58 PM (+y/Ru)

10k mortgage? 3k for flights?

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2019 02:07 PM (Ez6QX)

389 Chappelle is a comic genius . His Baby on the Corner bit almost killed me for laughing so hard.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 11, 2019 02:08 PM (zFzxj)

390 BREAKING: The IAEA has found signs of radioactive material which would violate the 2015 nuclear deal at an Iranian nuclear site identified to the agency by Israeli intelligence, Channel 13 reported late Thursday.

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at July 11, 2019 02:08 PM (BqBId)

391 i lost about 12 pounds on i.f. over several months. (wasn't very disciplined about it.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 11, 2019 02:08 PM (Pg+x7)

392 Further, if your body has a period without food, it triggers your system to store more fat when you get food, in case that happens again. Fasting is training your body to pack on fat.

Nobody overweight is going to lose weight without at least some discomfort.

Intermittent Fasting is a great way to lose weight, because the body only burns fat after it has exhausted the glucose in the liver and muscles, and bloodstream.

Figure out what your basal metabolic rate is. For men it's around 1800 calories. This is the number of calories required just to stay alive.

If someone Intermittent Fasts and reduces calories to somewhere around the basal metabolic rate, they will lose weight.

It gives the body a metabolic workout, as it is forced to derive the glucose and calories needed to sustain itself from body fat, instead of carbs. Insulin resistance is nasty stuff, it is not healthy.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2019 02:10 PM (0lFO7)

393 ... and perhaps the biggest change was dropping soda's and fruit juices. carbs about the same.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 11, 2019 02:10 PM (Pg+x7)

394 Chappelle is the last comic that made me belly laugh. The Age of Obama killed all real comedy. Now its angry Jewish guys telling bully jokes for trained seals to bark and applaud.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 11, 2019 02:10 PM (2LelM)

395 My mom was always skinny but she gained weight in her 60's and developed adult onset diabetes. She's almost 80 now. Oh , and she just quit smoking 103 days ago after 65 years of smoking. She's an outlier.

No, I mean elderly people. She's "almost" 80, I mean elederly. 90 + or people over 100, they are the outliers. They are always skinny, and usually drink and smoke. Ha!

But they aren't fat.

Recall too, before insulin injections or whatever, people died of Diabetes soon after diagnosis, probably up into the 1920s

Fasting as a health kick has been known at least since Aristotle's time, it cures epilepsy.

Think about it. Why would an obese person ever get hungry? Doesn't that sound strange on the face of it?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2019 02:16 PM (0lFO7)

396 Been off the sugar and starch train for 3 years. I feel like shit when I eat them. I can handle greens in small amounts. I have way more energy and have several reserve tanks to dip into when fasted cardio and fasted early morning training. I've tried taking in whey and heavy cream before cardio and afternoon training, and it's not there.

Ketones are being sold for 40 bucks a serving btw.

Posted by: counter intel triple agent at July 11, 2019 02:17 PM (13dPG)

397 By volume I think they are the real scientists now. To be fair most famous scientists aren't exactly follow the evidence types. Galileo had his perfect circles, Newton had his magic.
Posted by: Someguy at July 11, 2019 01:58 PM (p997d)


Nah. And no one follows the evidence all the time. It's human nature to whiff occasionally.

The job of a research director is beat out of graduate students as much irrationality as possible, at least in the student's research. And it takes years to do it. That's why I laugh at someone trying to do research for a semester.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 02:17 PM (208R5)

398 There is no difference between drugs and food. Food is drugs.

Posted by: counter intel triple agent at July 11, 2019 02:18 PM (13dPG)

399 The sugar thing is very logical. Cancer cells require a lot of energy, and sugar supplies that in spades.

Posted by: Happydude at July 11, 2019 02:18 PM (JG0oy)

400 I see no way I can do without Sweet Tea.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 11, 2019 02:19 PM (2LelM)

401 For breakfast today i had black forest ham, egg, and swiss cheese on a butter croissant. With frozen orange juice. Still here.

Posted by: hurricane567 at July 11, 2019 02:19 PM (NSTjj)

402 Is it me, or the HRC Twatter feed for the demise of JE in this post?

Thought I was a bit O2 starved after the last flight...

Posted by: Pinochet Air Tours Flt Attendant at July 11, 2019 02:20 PM (67aEn)

403 399 The sugar thing is very logical. Cancer cells require a lot of energy, and sugar supplies that in spades.
Posted by: Happydude at July 11, 2019 02:18 PM (JG0oy)


All cells require energy. And oxygen. Stop eating, stop breathing, and cancer will no longer be a problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 02:23 PM (208R5)

404 okay then, thanks for the info mr bicentennial

I turn 70 next month, hedging my bets

Posted by: found the sock at July 11, 2019 02:23 PM (Obadf)

405 399 The sugar thing is very logical. Cancer cells require a lot of energy, and sugar supplies that in spades.
Posted by: Happydude at July 11, 2019 02:18 PM (JG0oy)

All cells require energy. And oxygen. Stop eating, stop breathing, and cancer will no longer be a problem.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 11, 2019 02:23 PM (208R5)

DAMN YOU BIOLOGY!!!!!

Posted by: Pinochet Air Tours Flt Attendant at July 11, 2019 02:25 PM (67aEn)

406 You just landed on my Daily Prayer List.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 11, 2019 02:06 PM (bQngX)

Thank you very much, Sharkman.

You are now on my list as well.

Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at July 11, 2019 02:33 PM (rw1l7)

407 >Further, if your body has a period without food, it triggers your system to store more fat when you get food, in case that happens again. Fasting is training your body to pack on fat.

News flash. That's bullshit. It's so simplified as to what actually happens it's harmful.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 11, 2019 02:34 PM (k3IMN)

408 Truth of Life: Any study that affirms anything Michelle Obama thinks, must, by necessity, be false.

Sugar tastes good for a reason. Ignorance tastes bad. Exspurts desperately want sugar to be bad for us, but everyone knows it's not and will always keep eating as much as they can tolerate.

Those who have lost their ability to metabolize sugar want to spoil the fun for everyone who can still eat it. The high achievers, the beauties, the children, the happy and thin. Envy makes them hate sugar.

Sugar is the fuel we are meant to use. It is what get's stored in the liver and muscles for quick on demand fuel. Paleo low carb bullshit causes high stress, it is an emergency backup plan for times of famine. Low carb raises stress hormones. Low carb tells your brain it's famine time, and brain adjusts hormones accordingly. Why else would you refuse to eat sugar when it tastes so good? Because Michelle Obama, Megin Rapinoe, Pewdiepie and Dr Oz say so. In high stress famine mode, cancer, diabetes, depression, weakness and boredom become possible as the body performs the tricks it knows to stay alive through the worst that nature has to offer.

Except Publix is open 24 hours and has 2 tons of ice cream on the shelf right now. Yes right now! Brownies and cheery coke are waiting for you right now. There is no famine. You're being swindled. You're being herded like thegood cattle you want to be. Go get that purple pill, go get that Viagra, go get that heart surgery. Good, good, you're so obedient.

After 30 years in stress mode, doing what the exactly health nazis told me to do and getting sicker and sicker I realized they wee all wrong and the famine they advocate was actually the cause of my ill health. Now I eat as much sugar and saturated fat as I can and my health has improved dramatically because I am taking in energy, not living in famine mode. My weight has dropped because the famine is over and I don't need to horde anymore, my energy and mood have gone up because I have energy to spend, walking around energy.I have the energy to care about myself and others and to reach out and do something worthwhile and fun.

Don't knock sugar just because you are ignorant about biology and want to sound smart because some commie "sugar-kills" scientist was paid by govt grant to say something untrue to push their agenda. Govt grants recommended by pharma who wants you to be sick on famine. Eat what you crave. Your body knows best. CocaCola forever!

Humans runs on calories, not nutrients. Eat!

Posted by: Rich at July 11, 2019 02:38 PM (/Zade)

409 I stopped drinking fruit juices when I started low-carb 7 years ago. While I often fall off the wagon, I've stopped fruit juices completely and don't miss them.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 11, 2019 02:38 PM (NMAzL)

410 365 Obviously that was one person, one case. But the effective method, essentially filling the cancer cells with inert media so they can't crap and they die, was amazing to me.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2019 01:57 PM (sy5kK)

Does he still avoid starches and have to drink that gross concoction every day?
Posted by: JoeF. at July 11, 2019 02:00 PM (NFEMn)


Drinking the concoction ended after the MRI showed the tumors dead.

He eats meat and fish, and some vegetables, no fruits or starches. He does love Italian, and can't eat most of it. No noodles, no breads. A fast food burger is in lettuce, not a bun.


He used to drink decades ago, but quit. So no problem there.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2019 02:43 PM (sy5kK)

411 An essential book on the "settled science" of the low fat, high carbohydrate diet enforced by the U.S. government from the 1960s is The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz, published in 2015. She explains how this diet came into existence and how scientists who wanted to test its validity were prevented from being funded.

The comment by Rich is confused. The optimum diet does not have no sugars. It has them in the form of complex carbohydrates, such as starches. It is necessary to have them in your diet but not plain sugars.

And the current normal diet allows for a reasonable amount of fat compared to the low fat diet. It does not require no carbohydrates, just not an amount that causes obesity and diabetes.

Posted by: Roland Hirsch at July 11, 2019 02:44 PM (oMkPq)

412 Are you missing a sarc tag, Rich?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 11, 2019 02:46 PM (NMAzL)

413 I kinda suspect this is backwards - the people who drink a lot of fruit juice, eat a lot of fruits rather than drink soda, beer, what have you - they'll live longer (though by abstaining from bourbon, truly is it worth it?). They won't have heart attacks, they won't have diabetes, they won't die from net neutrality, but something's gotta kill em [citation needed], and natural cell cycle failure leading to cancer is right there.

So yeah I'm calling "conflating causation and correlation" with this one

Posted by: SB at July 11, 2019 02:53 PM (Glkke)

414 >Posted by: Rich

Michelle doesn't think sugar is harmful for you. She thinks processed foods are harmful. The health nazi agenda is to get you to stop eating meat and switch to natural sugars as the latter is better for Gaia. Michelle pushed sugary fruits and high carb foods and other "healthy" options that corresponds almost exactly to what you want minus a energy wasting processing middle man.

Keep doing what they want. Eat those high density easy burn calories that make Gaia sing in multiple meals a day hat have been government recommended for 80 years. Pretend you're the rebel.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 11, 2019 03:24 PM (k3IMN)

415 Post as much as you like on this topic, Ace. This needs to get out.
It's quite germane to the blog in general because this whole ball got rolling because Dr Ancel Keynes' pet theory (saturated fat causes heart disease) got adopted by the AHA and the FDA. Our current obesity/diabetes epidemic it a direct consequence of that steaming pile of BS.

Posted by: Smashmaster at July 11, 2019 03:27 PM (Y6tBk)

416 I haven't watched it yet but have been listening Vinny Tortorich on the Adam Carolla Podcast for years.

Vinny's new documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=z-onXpXUovc

Posted by: Fletch at July 11, 2019 03:36 PM (Wxzj0)

417 While the show leans very left, this segment of Adam Ruins Everything is a great summation of how we got into this mess and why sugar is so very very bad for us:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtQLDptI1g

Posted by: Viridian at July 11, 2019 03:38 PM (uU7lV)

418 as long as wine is not fruit juice. Of course it is made from fruit juice by definition. That guy Welch started a lot of this juice drinking. We used to ferment it first. And the medical/health gurus said grape juice was as good for you as wine. So basically I don't trust any of them.

Posted by: Quint at July 11, 2019 03:58 PM (n13/j)

419 Ever hear of the HERP index? Bruce Ames has been saying we are spending our public health dollars in correctly for 30 years

Posted by: Sdharms at July 11, 2019 06:50 PM (iBnSX)

420 Fructose is exactly the same as sucrose: The same blood sugar spike and concurrent release of insulin. You want vitamins? Take a centrum every AM with fish oil and an aspirin....that's a low inflammation festival right there.

Posted by: Jason at July 11, 2019 07:47 PM (blG2/)

421 "113 The study makes sense. The Warburg effect has been know for decades. Cancer loves sugar and hates fasting.
Posted by: James OBrien MD at July 11, 2019 01:29 PM (/r3rr)"

Precisely. One school of thought holds that the Warburg effect (cancer cells tend to prefer to metabolize glucose anaerobically) allows for intermediates in glycolysis (conversion of glucose to pyruvate, and then anaerobically converting pyruvate to lactate) to be shunted off into biosynthetic pathways that the tumor cells require to survive.

Under aerobic conditions, glucose tends to be converted to CO2 and H2O. Under anaerobic conditions, the lactate/pyruvate doesn't go on to become CO2 and H2O, instead it can go back "up" the pathway of glycolysis (a pathway known as gluconeogenesis). This effectively "traps" the glucose in the glycolysis/gluconeogenesis system, from which intermediates may be siphoned off for other uses.

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