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AmGreatness: To Hell With David French and the Other Corporate Cucks, Josh Hawley Is Right About Big Tech

Correct.

David French and his fellow peacetime conservatives are at it again, wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth as U.S. Senator Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) takes a run at curtailing the immense power of Big Tech.

As French channels Neville Chamberlain, the fact is that unless the tech companies are forcefully confronted, now, in the immediate, our self-governing republic will be over in less than a generation and we will be ruled by a tech oligarchy.


French and his types sputter that this is outrageous, that government shouldn't be involved in curtailing the harmful behavior of private companies. First, we would do well to remember that roughly 20 years ago, Washington, D.C. created this problem by carving out the Section 230 exemption for neutral platforms online. Only a fool would think that the tech companies are neutral platforms today. They have, by their own distinct decisions, become publishers and telecommunications companies: if you are making publishing decisions, if you are deploying broadband, if you are creating and streaming live content, you are a publisher or a telecommunications company, and sometimes both.

As these companies have changed of their own volition, Washington, D.C. has continued to live under the happy fiction that they are still nothing more than neutral platforms. What do policymakers not understand? Why are they so blind? Perhaps re-election campaign money, perhaps organizations like National Review being bought off by tech company donations--who can really say? There are all sorts of reasons why we're in defiance of common sense, but it doesn’t remove the fact that we are.

Ask yourselves why these companies get to play by one set of rules while publishers and telecommunications companies are forced to play by others? They are in fact the same, though now the tech companies dwarf many of their fellow publishers and telecommunications companies yet still get to play by rules that favor them. This is in defiance of free-market principles: government isn’t supposed to pick winners and losers. It is supposed to create a fair playing field for everyone to compete according to the same rules and regulations so that the consumer benefits. Instead, we see it creating rigged games that allow monopolies to develop.

Tim Pool made an interesting point.

Only a speaker or publisher of claimed defamatory content can be sued.

Not being a speaker or publisher of a defamatory statement gives you total immunity from suit. You're just a guy, you had nothing to do with the tort alleged.

Section 230 specifically says that "neutral content platforms" shall not be deemed to be the "speaker or publisher" of a claimed defamatory statement made by a third party using their service -- hence, the complete immunity from suit. You can't be sued for something someone else said, obviously.

Now newspapers can be sued for the defamatory remarks of, say, an interview subject. They are publishers of that defamatory statement -- they chose to publish it. The interview subject made the statement, but then they chose to publish it themselves, becoming another "speaker" of the defamation.

Now, "neutral content platforms" are never considered "speakers" of third-party defamations (or any third-party crime involving speech, such as offering to sell contraband or conspiring to commit a crime). But a newspaper or media company --or this blog -- could be.

The corporate cucks claim that you cannot put restrictions on Google, Facebook, or Twitter as regards their right to censor opinions they disagree with because that constitutes "compelled speech." You're compelling them to speak things they do not believe, the cucks' argument goes.

But... section 230 states that, as a legal matter, they are not considered the "speakers" of any statement made on their "neutral content platforms."

So which is it? Are they the speakers of these words -- in which case, like a newspaper or tv station, they'd have every right to exercise editorial judgment and decide what they wish their company to say -- or are they not the speakers of these words, which is their claim whenever someone tries to sue them?

As it stands, they are speakers when it comes to their power to block people from speaking on their platforms -- and thus can indulge in the vice of censorship -- but not speakers when it comes to people suing them for what other people said on their platforms.

Choose one or the other: Either you are a speaker of other people's words or you're not. You can't forever choose one and then the other when it's in your interest to have the Clown Nose On or the Clown Nose Off.

Also, note that these platforms are quick to ban groups like the Proud Boys even though the Proud Boys aren't hate groups routinely engaged in violence, and yet rarely ban Antifa groups, which are hate groups that routinely use these platforms to target people for violence, and to coordinate violence.

Why should Google and FaceBook and Twitter have the cover of section 230 when it's quite clear they are affirmatively bending their own rules to allow violent domestic terrorist groups to plot and scheme using their platform? They've demonstrated both the capability and desire to ban political groups for far less than what Antifa does; if they're permitting antifa to remain, why should they not be parties to a lawsuit that targets antifa for its violence? They have chosen to continue offering their services to known law-breakers, for purposes of law-breaking.

Having put in place a draconian and expensive system for banning some speakers -- can any of these companies say "We just don't have the money or staff to ban criminal speech"?

If you have the time and personnel to ban Crowder, you have the time and personnel to ban Antifa. And if you choose not to -- then you are liable for their crimes.

If Google and Facebook and Twitter want to ban Crowder or Carl Benjamin, they say "We're speakers, to deny our right to censor is to force us to utter speech we disagree with!"

But try to sue them for knowingly and willfully acting as a plotting tool for antifa, and they say, "But we're not speakers! We can't be sued for others' speech?"

Here's the algorithm:

If someone is complaining of your censorship:

1) Claim that you are effectively the speaker of statements made on your site, and say you have First Amendment right to not be compelled to be the speaker of things you disagree with.

But if someone sues because you did not delete and ban conspirators, contraband-sellers, and defamers:

2) Claim that you are legally not the speaker of those statements, thanks to the Community Decency Act, section 230.

So a publisher has the right to not print people's speech if they don't like it, or find it objectionable, but they also have the responsibility of checking to see if all statements published by them are legal and true, and may face legal suit (or possibly even criminal prosecution) if they're not.

But when it comes to Tech Monopoly Publishers -- they have the right to censor, but none of the responsibility to patrol for legality and accuracy, on pain of legal consequence, that publishers do.

Meanwhile, while acting like publishers in all relevant ways.

Does anyone see the problem here? Or are a lot of Cuckservatives and Ruling Caste Republicans just paid a lot of money by corporations not to see the problem?

This is just one of the incongruities that arises when a company is permitted to claim one status -- "We're speakers and you can't compel us to permit speech we disagree with!" -- for one set of circumstances but invoke an entirely contradictory status -- "We're not speakers at all!" -- for others.

It's time to resolve this.

These companies are in fact media companies -- the largest and most profitable in the world. Google makes NBC look like a corner shop.

And if they themselves are going to willingly, knowingly abandon their positions as "non-speakers" -- as bona fide neutral content platforms -- then they should join the rest of the media in being potential liable for defamation or conspiracies to commit violence that they permit their platforms to be used for.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:48 PM




Comments

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1 First. Eff Google.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 03:49 PM (Ez6QX)

2 this is the REAL war we are fighting today.

and mostly losing, if you are a Constitutional American believer.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 03:50 PM (sy5kK)

3
crap.... I read the content

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 03:52 PM (8XRCm)

4 Anything that makes Pansy French cry is good policy. Nuff said.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 25, 2019 03:52 PM (2LelM)

5 The Proud Boys should be banned solely because of their name .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 03:52 PM (qQ7kL)

6 google sux

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 25, 2019 03:52 PM (dm05u)

7 Top Ten?

Posted by: FrodoB at June 25, 2019 03:53 PM (9753m)

8 Google and Facebook are both within CEP of a decent airstrike right around 101 and University...unfortunately, so are a few other businesses I use routinely. So we need something more...surgical.

Posted by: JEM at June 25, 2019 03:53 PM (8erNz)

9 The Veritas video showing a Google exec Jen saying how Google has to stay intact to prevent another Trump is pretty damning that Google needs to be torn down with jackhammers and jackboots because that is what they want to do with anyone that disagrees with them

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2019 03:53 PM (ppgMG)

10 1-th?

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 25, 2019 03:54 PM (qC1Sy)

11 Darn, should have had the courage to own my 10th.

11th?

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 25, 2019 03:55 PM (qC1Sy)

12
Gee..... leftists trying to have it both ways.


:-/ Muh shocked face.


Shocked I tell you.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 03:55 PM (8XRCm)

13 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 03:55 PM (9gDA7)

14 Oh sure Ace, give us real content to read.

Sigh, all right, I'll start from the top...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 03:55 PM (bcbK8)

15 9 The Veritas video showing a Google exec Jen saying how Google has to stay intact to prevent another Trump is pretty damning that Google needs to be torn down with jackhammers and jackboots because that is what they want to do with anyone that disagrees with them

Oh, I agree. As a company, their hubris should be pushed forward to nemesis.

Posted by: JEM at June 25, 2019 03:55 PM (8erNz)

16 Who ya gonna call?

Posted by: Trust Busters at June 25, 2019 03:55 PM (l8gTz)

17 We're ready to believe you.

Posted by: Trust Busters at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (l8gTz)

18
Stewart, Colbert, Maher, et al. use this all the time: "We're just entertainers, except when we're Deep Thinkers."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (BWL+E)

19 I wondered about the quid pro quo aspects when Google gave money to the National Review. Makes sense NRO would leap to Big Tech's defense given its increasing reliance on big donor money since they've been busily alienating & losing conservative readership.

Posted by: troyriser at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (mSO8Y)

20 6 google sux
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 25, 2019 03:52 PM (dm05u)

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Go for it!

Posted by: pronhub at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (qC1Sy)

21 Good post.

Are we still doing the clown nose on/off bit?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (ycWCI)

22 not even close to first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (9cans)

23 Invisible bed.

Posted by: Trust Busters at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (l8gTz)

24 Who ya gonna call?

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The Shemales

Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (5NMZN)

25 Josh Hawley should retain personal protection. And stay out of dark alleys.

BigBrother, Inc. will not tolerate doubleungoodthink.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (LL1Be)

26 This whole thing is going to get VERY interesting. Twatter, FuckFaceBook and Google are going to have some 'splanin to do VERY soon.

I hope, anyway.

They are publishers monitoring and censoring content. They're not platforms.

They're trying to play both sides and I hope they get fucked by it.

Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 03:56 PM (9gDA7)

27 Someone needs to sue a tech giant for Defamation and argue in court that section 230 doesn't apply to them.
That's what it's going to take to resolve this. Congress wont amend the law.

Posted by: Revenant at June 25, 2019 03:57 PM (oKC84)

28 There are two kinds of people that work for Google: those that hate you and want you to suffer, because you believe in a single rule of law for all, based on the traditional interpretation of the Constitution; and those that pity you for believing it, but just want you to go away.


Either one doesn't work for me.

There is no third choice for them.


We are their enemy. We may think they are stupid, but they think we are evil and must be ultimately destroyed. They would not call it destroyed however, but "transformed", or some such nonsense.

Corporate monopolies like Google fund this one-sided view of the world.

End this insidious corporate monopoly.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 03:57 PM (sy5kK)

29 Tim Pool made an interesting point.

Only a speaker or publisher of claimed defamatory content can be sued.


And this is the key approach. Not government control, anti-trust, or regulation. Make them more open to lawsuit and penalty for their actions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 25, 2019 03:57 PM (39g3+)

30 27 Someone needs to sue a tech giant for Defamation and argue in court that section 230 doesn't apply to them.
That's what it's going to take to resolve this. Congress wont amend the law.
Posted by: Revenant at June 25, 2019 03:57 PM (oKC84)

==========

Is this part of Devin Nunes' plan and his lawsuits?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 03:57 PM (9cans)

31 BBL

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Posted by: David French at June 25, 2019 03:57 PM (pw+jk)

32 Yup. Monster Tech is way more important to rein in than any individual politician or even ideology.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (oZ6kz)

33 Make Google burn.

I'm, barely, willing to accept them removing ALL content censorship as a secondary options.

Give me the wild west over this 1984 bullshit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (bcbK8)

34 I said this exact thing on here a week ago and was shot down. I forget by whom and what was the reasoning?

Posted by: dagny at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (nRWPy)

35 Reason assholes too! Who are ignoring the publisher vs carrier argument. Those Bible thumpers are squelching free speech! See the sock link. Comment section accessible separately at the column bottom.

BTW, isn't Beto just dreamy??!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (Dh1wo)

36 *Sings Cartman's Wild, Wild West rap from South Park*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (bcbK8)

37 Makes sense NRO would leap to Big Tech's defense given its increasing reliance on big donor money since they've been busily alienating & losing conservative readership.

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More people read criticisms of NRO daily than actually read NRO.

Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (5NMZN)

38 Hasn't Google been funding NRO lately?

French is a cuck, but in this particular instance he's a kept cuck, Google's b#tch.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (bDqIh)

39 "French" is the perfect name for a surrender monkey.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (O8WFE)

40 >>> Stewart, Colbert, Maher, et al. use this all the time: "We're just entertainers, except when we're Deep Thinkers."

Honk Honk

Posted by: LizLem at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (hvf9s)

41 "As French channels Neville Chamberlain "

This is a pretty serious insult to Chamberlain, to be honest. Chamberlain was a fool. French is being paid.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (eAshZ)

42
I always rather enjoyed the "private companies can ban whomever they want because theyre private" strategy.

Oh. Really??? Because you not a platform provider once you start doing that.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (8XRCm)

43 I don't want them to be held responsible for content. I want them to stop censoring. That's the preferable outcome here. Free speech.

Posted by: windbag at June 25, 2019 03:59 PM (q+DrW)

44 30. Maybe, I've not been following them. Nunez has a harder time though because hes in high public office. Someone like a Crowder or PragerU would be better I think, but I'm no expert at defamation law.

Posted by: Revenant at June 25, 2019 03:59 PM (oKC84)

45 God I'm glad that last thread is over. Made me feel sick.

Posted by: Someguy at June 25, 2019 03:59 PM (QHOe8)

46 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6aleKfM_AA

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 25, 2019 03:59 PM (d7Ww2)

47 Someone needs to sue a tech giant for Defamation and argue in court that section 230 doesn't apply to them.

That's what it's going to take to resolve this. Congress wont amend the law.


Nonsense.

Silicon Valley tech giants are American success stories.
You don't hate America , do ya boy?

Posted by: Your Donor Class Republican Congress at June 25, 2019 03:59 PM (LL1Be)

48 This is something Diversity and Comics has argued about the comics industry, with all the SJW writers and editors claiming that they don't want to sell to the "wrong kind of people," and filtering their audience. He argues that his comics are like Aquafresh toothpaste -- they sell them to murders on death row and to moms and to college students and anyone else with $1.79 who wants toothpaste.

These tech companies want to control speech and control public access to information. Which is great, but then you're not a utility and you're responsible for what you are choosing to do.

Own it.

Posted by: sunny-dee at June 25, 2019 03:59 PM (pID7O)

49 French Stewart > David French

Posted by: LizLem at June 25, 2019 03:59 PM (hvf9s)

50 I think they (even Demoncrats)'re going to be more willing to go after Zuckerfuck than Google.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (sm6Pk)

51 I don't want them to be held responsible for content. I want them to stop censoring. That's the preferable outcome here. Free speech.

We know they aren't gonna do that, so responsible for content is what they're getting. Good and hard.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (ZGrMX)

52 French toast > David French

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (O8WFE)

53 Whatever happened to their old motto,

First, Don't Be Evil?

Wasn't that back when they weren't making any money? I wonder what changed?

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (EK+Pw)

54 These companies are in fact media companies -- the largest and most profitable in the world. Google makes NBC look like a corner shop.
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To be fair, NBC does have some self-inflicted wounds that pushed them down the road toward being a corner shop.

Posted by: pronhub at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (qC1Sy)

55 So what's the verdict regarding small, somewhat obscure internet places with comment sections in regards to Sec 230?Say, oh... a smart military blog? Who or what is liable for what is said here?
Pixie? Ace? the Cobs?

Could the face of the internets be changing? IDK.

Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (gPZ9i)

56 This was the best argument for smacking down big tech companies I had read.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2019 04:01 PM (BbGew)

57 There are two kinds of people that work for Google: those that hate you and want you to suffer, because you believe in a single rule of law for all, based on the traditional interpretation of the Constitution; and those that pity you for believing it, but just want you to go away.

Plus H1-Bs who have zero familiarity with American values, and will do whatever they're told, because the alternative is working at a call center in Calcutta.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 25, 2019 04:01 PM (c/0Nr)

58 Gotta go. Wife's bull and his friends just got here. Have lots of penis to sip... or chug if that makes them happier.

Posted by: David French at June 25, 2019 04:01 PM (pw+jk)

59 Honestly, I don't care about monster tech until monster tech decides to control what I think, see or buy.

If Google was content to serve me up all the requested porn and memes I wanted, I wouldn't care about their fingers being in everything.

If Amazon sold guns, I wouldn't give a shit about what other corporate dinosaurs they filleted.

But they are MAKING me care.

Time's a comin' to make it personal to these assholes. And trust me, most of them are not hard targets.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:01 PM (bcbK8)

60 33 Make Google burn.

I'm, barely, willing to accept them removing ALL content censorship as a secondary options.

Give me the wild west over this 1984 bullshit.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 03:58 PM (bcbK


Yep. Our "superiors" are anything but.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 04:02 PM (sy5kK)

61 -
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BBL

Got a whole lot of penis to sip.


Posted by: David French at June 25, 2019 03:57 PM

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Working in the pole mine
Goin down, down, down...

Posted by: Lee Frenchley at June 25, 2019 04:02 PM (RVcmP)

62 The Conservative Case for Wearing a Pink Tutu While Fluffing My Wife's Bulls.

Posted by: David Franch at June 25, 2019 04:02 PM (O8WFE)

63 Someone needs to sue a tech giant for Defamation and argue in court that section 230 doesn't apply to them.

Which in my opinion is far, far better than congressional action. NO GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE ON THE INTERNET. Its the last wild west, its why we opposed Net Neutrality, remember??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 25, 2019 04:03 PM (39g3+)

64 >>But... section 230 states that, as a legal matter, they are not considered the "speakers" of any statement made on their "neutral content platforms."


In addition to being big Lefties, it's not legal action that pressures these tech companies to silence users, it's that the Left activists, paid and unpaid, will mob them over the day's designated Emanuel Goldstein and scream "You provide them a platform (or service) and therefore you are Supporting them. Cease supporting them or will will interpret this as agreement with his/her/their message!!!"

And they totally buy into that premise, that twitter allowing a user to tewwt things = twitter is OK with the content.

All they have to do is reject that premise.
They won't.
Legal action, lawsuits and Congressional action must force the change in premise to what is legal, that providing a platform =/= agreement.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2019 04:03 PM (bDqIh)

65 53 Whatever happened to their old motto,

First, Don't Be Evil?

Wasn't that back when they weren't making any money? I wonder what changed?
Posted by: rd at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (EK+Pw)

These companies (and the people in them) are convinced they are doing the right thing. Conservatives and Trump supporters ARE evil to them, and therefore must be vanquished.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 04:03 PM (Ez6QX)

66 Fly-fishing for pigs...

So that is how they hooked French.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 25, 2019 04:03 PM (ppgMG)

67 Google controls like 75% of internet traffic, that's a big gorilla throwing it's weight to the Democrats/ Leftists.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2019 04:03 PM (BbGew)

68 57 There are two kinds of people that work for Google: those that hate you and want you to suffer, because you believe in a single rule of law for all, based on the traditional interpretation of the Constitution; and those that pity you for believing it, but just want you to go away.

Plus H1-Bs who have zero familiarity with American values, and will do whatever they're told, because the alternative is working at a call center in Calcutta.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 25, 2019 04:01 PM (c/0Nr)

There are also people just there for a paycheck.

That was me, I worked on Google Talk.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:03 PM (bcbK8)

69 /off pron sock

Posted by: blake - used sock salesman at June 25, 2019 04:03 PM (qC1Sy)

70 Choose one or the other: Either you are a speaker of other people's words or you're not. You can't forever choose one and then the other when it's in your interest to have the Clown Nose On or the Clown Nose Off.


John Matuszak referred to the practitioners of this art as Chickenshit Cocksuckers in ND40

Posted by: x at June 25, 2019 04:03 PM (nFwvY)

71 Working in the pole mine
Goin down, down, down...

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Lee Dorsey and Bruce Springsteen combined?

Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:04 PM (5NMZN)

72 Community Decency Act? That sounds like something out of Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: rickl at June 25, 2019 04:04 PM (xjiRE)

73 You all have to read my news letter this month where I logically present "The conservative case for letting Big Tech make our country hard left wing fascist."

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 25, 2019 04:04 PM (pw+jk)

74 53 Whatever happened to their old motto,

First, Don't Be Evil?

Wasn't that back when they weren't making any money? I wonder what changed?
Posted by: rd at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (EK+Pw)

China happened.

Then prog takeover via HR/marketing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:04 PM (bcbK8)

75 Comey and French

The I'm More Righteous than You Brothers

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 04:04 PM (qQ7kL)

76 The inertia in DC to do something about this very serious issue should trouble us all. Is it greased pockets? Is it that they are also in on the "prevent Trump or anyone like Trump again" bandwagon? I'd say strong signs point to the former, and equally strong signs point to the latter. How does it ever get solved then? Most of them are pretending the problem doesn't exist. And yes, in generation (or less), our self-governoring republic will be over.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 25, 2019 04:04 PM (JoUsr)

77 Indeed.

Make Evil Google subject to the same laws as any other publisher.
Fuck them, the arrogant totalitarian pricks.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (ufFY8)

78
You're seeing the genesis here of just about every dystopian sci-fi plot lines. A future of a tyranny run by near omnipotent corporate big brothers. Dissent and individuality are suppressed. Everyone is a mindless drone.

The left used to be obsessed with this theme. I used to laugh at their anti-corporate paranoia which was the source of many of these novels and movies.

And now, it's being created not just under their noses, but with their active support.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (f1Vqw)

79 Hell, Microsoft used to have an official gun club, once upon a time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (bcbK8)

80 There are also people just there for a paycheck.

That was me, I worked on Google Talk.


I was heavily recruited by Google for a while, but I have a strict no-California policy.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (ZGrMX)

81 Anyone who uses ANY Google product -- search engine, Gmail, Chrome, etc. -- is a dupe. I stopped using them years ago when most conservatives still thought the company lived up to its "Don't be evil" motto.

Posted by: Outside Adjitator at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (NvFiZ)

82 Be Excellent to Each Other.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (qQ7kL)

83 73 You all have to read my news letter this month where I logically present "The conservative case for letting Big Tech make our country hard left wing fascist."
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 25, 2019 04:04 PM (pw+jk)

"Please cuck, I mean, click"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (bcbK8)

84 These companies (and the people in them) are convinced they are doing
the right thing. Conservatives and Trump supporters ARE evil to them,
and therefore must be vanquished.


You think so?

I think that the "true believers" are far down on the totem pole. The ones making noises with their face-holes in public and in Congress don't believe in anything other than their own Mandarin-class status and ripping off the rubes.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (LL1Be)

85 I will say it again. Lawyers on the right are absolutely worthless. If these social media companies were silencing leftists they would have already been brought to heel. they would be facing lawsuits that would boggle the imagination.

But rightwing lawyers only care about billable hours. That is the full extent of their interest in anything at all. You would never know someone like Kurt Schlichter is a lawyer who has the power to bring class action suits. All he does is moan on Twitter and pimp his books. And that would be alright if others were doing the work. But no one is.

And don't get me started on the Senate.

Posted by: Thatch at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (v5Cc/)

86 Again ... this is all going after Big Tech for the wrong things. THere are legtitimate spots to go after them - for colluding to restrain competition, for fake ad clicks they are charging huge amounts for, for all sorts of stuff.

But your real problem is with the millions - tens of millions - of idiot Americans who belong to FarceBook and who use Google and Twitter. That is the real issue.

And the argument about being held liable in courts for speech ... that only shifts the focus from the tech companies to the laughable courts we have that allow all sorts of insane, intellectually offensive suits and seem to have no problems finding totally innocent parties liable of all sorts of crap and doling out insane judgments that only a total retard would consider anything even in the same universe as fair or equitable ...

We are trapped between a bunch of rocks and a bunch of hard places - all of our own making and pretty much none having anything to do with the tech turds.

We have campaign finance laws that are insane. And they are never actually applied in any fair way. THey couldn't be, since they are so crazy. We all know that most of the MFM should have their reports scored as in-kind contributions - and we know they are intended as such (the idiots even admit to it all over the place). But that can't be done because that would just lead to widespread chaos in everything.

Breaking up Google would ahve no effect because Big Tech colludes as it is. That collusion is what should be gone after ... not trying to start having suits pop up over everything printed on a web site or forcing all sites to admit anybody and anything they want to say ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (le1m7)

87 David French French kisses cock.

Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (9gDA7)

88 65 53 Whatever happened to their old motto,

First, Don't Be Evil?

Wasn't that back when they weren't making any money? I wonder what changed?
Posted by: rd at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (EK+Pw)

These companies (and the people in them) are convinced they are doing the right thing. Conservatives and Trump supporters ARE evil to them, and therefore must be vanquished.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 04:03 PM (Ez6QX)

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They seem quite happy to work on, and support the Great Firewall of Communist China.

Do they think Communist China is not evil?

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (EK+Pw)

89 Thinking bigger about the implication of Section 230, what isn't to say that the whole push for "Net Neutrality" was a ruse to get the Comcast/TimeWarner/Cox carriers of the world a free pass? Glad that was thwarted (for the meantime) and we didn't all die when it went back...

Posted by: SkinnerVic at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (IGIxe)

90 81 Anyone who uses ANY Google product -- search engine, Gmail, Chrome, etc. -- is a dupe. I stopped using them years ago when most conservatives still thought the company lived up to its "Don't be evil" motto.
Posted by: Outside Adjitator at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (NvFiZ)



Anyone for posting a good "Alternatives to Google" list for us? Especially the technologically impaired among us.... :-}

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (ujg0T)

91 Hell, Microsoft used to have an official gun club, once upon a time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (bcbK


Then someone told Gates he could control how people thought because WEALTHY.

Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 04:07 PM (9gDA7)

92 The Conservative Case for Wearing a Pink Tutu While Fluffing My Wife's Bulls.

Posted by: David Franch at June 25, 2019 04:02 PM (O8WFE)

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Any stylish cuck will have several pastel shades of Tutus but real cucksman always wears pink Crocs while fluffing.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 25, 2019 04:07 PM (pw+jk)

93

The best way to protect free speech is door to door gun confiscation!

Posted by: Shemp Smith's Lap Dog at June 25, 2019 04:07 PM (UFLLM)

94 Why do the cucks always like quoting themselves?

Is it megalomania? I mean it sounds like something Castro would do.

Two major ways to tell if someone is a Never-Trump corporate cuck:

1. They always find ways to retweet something from Jake Tapper. As if he is the only source of real news in the world.

2. They quote themselves like they are great figures from history.

Posted by: William Eaton at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (MuTTO)

95
Hawley is quietly impressing me. Hope he develops into a Trump disciple. Lord knows we need as many as we can get.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (zBaqJ)

96 Prager is suing Youtube I believe.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (8lGpb)

97 We are all part of the problem if we don't start calling Republican Senators to let them know this is an issue that we want fixed.

I made a bunch of phone calls today and guess what? I was the first call regarding this issue.

That's A Huge Problem!

Posted by: redridinghood at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (RBOtF)

98 I will say it again. Lawyers on the right are absolutely worthless. If these social media companies were silencing leftists they would have already been brought to heel. they would be facing lawsuits that would boggle the imagination.

Posted by: Thatch at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (v5Cc/)


That's because of judges, who are insane assholes for the most part.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (le1m7)

99 90 81 Anyone who uses ANY Google product -- search engine, Gmail, Chrome, etc. -- is a dupe. I stopped using them years ago when most conservatives still thought the company lived up to its "Don't be evil" motto.
Posted by: Outside Adjitator at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (NvFiZ)


Anyone for posting a good "Alternatives to Google" list for us? Especially the technologically impaired among us.... :-}
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (ujg0T)

The latter requirement is going to be the hard part.

You CAN get along without Apple, Google or MSFT. But you have to be pretty tech savvy or willing to put in the work to become such.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (bcbK8)

100 >>>55 So what's the verdict regarding small, somewhat obscure internet places with comment sections in regards to Sec 230?Say, oh... a smart military blog? Who or what is liable for what is said here?

hawley's bill would only impose the neutrality requirement (the forfeiting of s. 230 immunity) to sites with over 30 million subscribers/users, or something like that.

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (PbpT7)

101 There are also people just there for a paycheck.



That was me, I worked on Google Talk.



And the fact that you used Google money to build out your own armory makes you 200% more awesome.



Sorry about the canoe accident.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (LL1Be)

102 The whole point of limited government is to avoid having unappointed people from above dictate how we live. Same applies here and is also why we think monopolies are bad. Google and their ilk are getting more powerful than the government. In fact, they are trying to install the government they desire.

Screw them.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (9hauA)

103 -
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Whatever happened to their old motto,



First, Don't Be Evil?



Wasn't that back when they weren't making any money? I wonder what changed?

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (EK+Pw)


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Ah, simple mistake. The motto is: At First, Don't Be Evil.


Posted by: Google (not evil, THAT'S for sure) at June 25, 2019 04:09 PM (RVcmP)

104 96 Prager is suing Youtube I believe.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (8lGpb)

Again.

He's lost before, I suspect he'll lose again.

Hopefully Crowder's lawyer has his shit together.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:09 PM (bcbK8)

105 90
Anyone for posting a good "Alternatives to Google" list for us? Especially the technologically impaired among us.... :-}
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (ujg0T)

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"Anything made by the Alphabet company is just the grandest!"
-David French

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:09 PM (9cans)

106 "53 Whatever happened to their old motto,



First, Don't Be Evil?



Wasn't that back when they weren't making any money? I wonder what changed?

Posted by: rd at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (EK+Pw)"
..
We have two things going on here - mass political involvement and general fuckery.
The general fuckery is *old*. A decade ago "don't be evil" was already right out the window; their legal people were spinning fantastic BS theories internally that all sorts of things visible online were public domain and thus could be nabbed - see the recent dustup regarding Google stealing song lyric content ctrl-c, ctrl-v from online lyric sites.

That was also the time period that they started nabbing using street view cars to nab wifi and network info so they could use it for location tracking on android devices. They'll follow your ass with an android OS tablet that has neither GPS nor a sim card, *when the device isn't even turned on*
The political thing is more complex. For a number of years they just turned a blind eye to internal abuses, and censorship and sabotage was mainly an individual effort. Obama shook them down pretty early in his first term, and they went all-in some time between that and his re-election. First came the campaign support efforts and loans of personnel, then came the overt organized censorship we see now.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at June 25, 2019 04:09 PM (eAshZ)

107 Regarding Trump's Rape Accuser:

Isn't it about time for Jane Lynch to give up the gag and let us in on the joke?

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:09 PM (DuZls)

108 Then someone told Gates he could control how people thought because WEALTHY.

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Gates isnt the problem.

Zuckerburg, Dorsey, and whats her name is.

Dorsey is such an open facist he should be hunted down when collander face mask time comes.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:09 PM (8XRCm)

109 77 Indeed.

Make Evil Google subject to the same laws as any other publisher.
Fuck them, the arrogant totalitarian pricks.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 25, 2019 04:05 PM (ufFY


This strategy seems to be the lowest hanging fruit, so to speak.

Publisher or platform? The law clearly says you can't be both, yet here we are with Google crapping all over one political side and protecting the other.

It has to stop. Choke them with their own lies and devious actions.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 04:10 PM (sy5kK)

110 Whatever happened to their old motto,

First, Don't Be Evil?
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They still mean it: don't be traditional.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:10 PM (DuZls)

111 108 Then someone told Gates he could control how people thought because WEALTHY.

-----

Gates isnt the problem.

Zuckerburg, Dorsey, and whats her name is.

Dorsey is such an open facist he should be hunted down when collander face mask time comes.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:09 PM (8XRCm)

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Remember Common Core?

That was Gates' baby.

He may not be this problem, but he is definitely a problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:10 PM (9cans)

112 I would like some of my toast with maple syrup.

Posted by: David French at June 25, 2019 04:10 PM (vtcmf)

113 hawley's bill would only impose the neutrality requirement (the
forfeiting of s. 230 immunity) to sites with over 30 million
subscribers/users



28, 29, 30...

KEEP YOUR HANDS UP , MORONS. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO COUNT.

Posted by: Pixy' hamsters at June 25, 2019 04:10 PM (LL1Be)

114 113 hawley's bill would only impose the neutrality requirement (the
forfeiting of s. 230 immunity) to sites with over 30 million
subscribers/users


28, 29, 30...

KEEP YOUR HANDS UP , MORONS. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO COUNT.
Posted by: Pixy' hamsters at June 25, 2019 04:10 PM (LL1Be)

============

Lisa's seven people. And Bart was in Vietnam.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (9cans)

115 Poster 1: "Transgender is normal."
Big Tech: "We are a platform that allows free speech."
Poster 2: "Transgenders are mentally ill."
Big Tech: "We are removing hate speech from our forum."


Seems simple. The simple removal of any comments at all regardless of how acceptable to today's current norms is an editorial position taken by the owner of the platform and therefore not a neutral platform. So by adjusting any comments (banning etc.) whatsoever, they are giving up their Section 230 protection because they are "speaking" by taking any obvious act/position on user comments.

Posted by: Orson at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (yPGaH)

116 111 108 Then someone told Gates he could control how people thought because WEALTHY.

-----

Gates isnt the problem.

Zuckerburg, Dorsey, and whats her name is.

Dorsey is such an open facist he should be hunted down when collander face mask time comes.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:09 PM (8XRCm)

============

Remember Common Core?

That was Gates' baby.

He may not be this problem, but he is definitely a problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:10 PM (9cans)

Gates is also strongly anti-gun and anti-Christian.

He's got armed security though. Not top tier, surprisingly, but he has them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (bcbK8)

117 I have seen lots of comments on blogs that the likes of Google can discriminate against whoever they want being a free company.
And if that was the rule Leftists wanted to live by to me that's fine but they burned that bridge behind them long ago with the first Christian baker they made a case out of.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (BbGew)

118 Regulating them as publishers is not going to get you to where you want to be.


The only way to make these platforms fair and equitable is to regulate them as public utilities and public accommodations.

Similar to how the phone and power utilities are regulated.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (1ui5c)

119 http://bit.ly/2X4740b
*******
Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom, School Confirms - Breaking911
*******
This is right up the Hordes alley

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (BqBId)

120 Speaking of Tim Pool, I watch his videos every day but his video yesterday about the Project Veritas exposé seriously annoyed me. I'm going to need a day or so to simmer down before I watch another of his videos.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (9hauA)

121 The conservative case for Google to Be EVIL... and tonguing out my wife's cream pie after team bull has had a long night.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (pw+jk)

122 "they should join the rest of the media in being potential liable for
defamation or conspiracies to commit violence that they permit their
platforms to be used for."
I am OK with this. Let their shareholders reign in their little high school mean girls clique, get some heads to roll when it gets expensive, and this stuff ends.

Unremarkably, the government intervention in the market that allowed this distortion to occur, when removed, would allow the market to function.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:12 PM (t6MX/)

123 Section 230 doesn't say that, specifically or otherwise.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230

Posted by: William Quick at June 25, 2019 04:12 PM (Ewoxi)

124 Don't be Evil (for *some* definitions of "evil").

Posted by: Goolag at June 25, 2019 04:13 PM (DuZls)

125 hawley's bill would only impose the neutrality
requirement (the forfeiting of s. 230 immunity) to sites with over 30
million subscribers/users, or something like that.

Posted by: ace at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (PbpT7)


Thanks Ace, so it wouldn't apply here. But imagine if you will, an AoSHQ horde numbering 30M strong...

You're gonna need a bigger barrel.

Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 04:13 PM (gPZ9i)

126 I believe this right here - the proposal by Josh Hawley, the piece by American Greatness, the discussion of the topic on this blog and other sympathetic opinion sites - I believe that this is the start of a Movement that is going to result in Legislation which addresses this.

It won't happen quickly, and it may take one or two elections before a Congress is in place which is able and willing to confront this. But I now believe it can happen.

Legislatively, it is not that difficult a problem to fix, if there is the will to fix it.

Posted by: tom servo at June 25, 2019 04:13 PM (V2Yro)

127 -
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David French French kisses cock.


Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM

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I'll tongue-punch your prostate, big boy.

Posted by: Dave (The Chameleon) French at June 25, 2019 04:13 PM (RVcmP)

128 My takeaway was that Ace did not enjoy the David French movie.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 25, 2019 04:13 PM (yL25O)

129 Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at June 25, 2019 04:09 PM (eAshZ)

Listen to Lurker. He's a cool dude

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:13 PM (bcbK8)

130 Italy beats China 2-0

Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 04:14 PM (QkjLD)

131 Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom, School Confirms - Breaking911
*******
This is right up the Hordes alley
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (BqBId)


Mainly if your link goes to the actual footage in question.

Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 04:14 PM (9gDA7)

132 OT:
Another medieval church in France is burning. Built in 1458. Methinks it might not be the Lutherans.

Posted by: jmel at June 25, 2019 04:14 PM (OeWgo)

133 I've been bitching about this for approximately 10 years.

The rule is if you're neutral, you can't be sued or prosecuted for content.

But these guys are not only not neutral, they specifically target legal (but un-PC) communication while leaving up terrorist stuff, pedo stuff, etc. Where are the "smart algorithms" taking THAT stuff down?

Posted by: moviegique at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (oRIVo)

134 Gates is only accidentally malevolent.

Zuckerberg is willfully malevolent.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (Boy/L)

135 Bob Dorian, Presenter of Classic Movies on AMC, Dies at 85

Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (QkjLD)

136 113 hawley's bill would only impose the neutrality requirement (the forfeiting of s. 230 immunity) to sites with over 30 million subscribers/users.

That's a nice way not to have to call it the Google/Twitter/Facebook Bill.

Posted by: tom servo at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (V2Yro)

137 "126 I believe this right here - the proposal by Josh Hawley, the piece by
American Greatness, the discussion of the topic on this blog and other
sympathetic opinion sites - I believe that this is the start of a
Movement that is going to result in Legislation which addresses this.



It won't happen quickly, and it may take one or two elections before
a Congress is in place which is able and willing to confront this.
But I now believe it can happen.



Legislatively, it is not that difficult a problem to fix, if there is the will to fix it.

Posted by: tom servo at June 25, 2019 04:13 PM (V2Yro)"
..
You had best hope the effort succeeds relatively soon, because we are not all that far out from face colander time.
If that time arrives, it will because congress was too chickenshit and crooked to do the obviously right thing.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (eAshZ)

138

Yep, that is the gist of it.

Another target of Tucker's show. That is why he is being attacked so harshly. It's not just the left attacking him. He's been covering this for a while. I'm not sure what his leanings are, I thought Libertarian, but when he went after the Koch Bros and their form of Libertarian, I knew it would get even rockier for him.

I'll never understand "Libertarians" because they are all over the board. You can't pin it down.

As far as David French, he's just a clown with no convictions other than his own hide.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (vEIlU)

139 92 Any stylish cuck will have several pastel shades of Tutus but real cucksman always wears pink Crocs while fluffing.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 25, 2019 04:07 PM (pw+jk)

Pikers.

Kap'n Kristol wears a rainbow tutu and glues a unicorn horn to his forehead.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (sm6Pk)

140 120 Speaking of Tim Pool, I watch his videos every day but his video yesterday about the Project Veritas expose seriously annoyed me. I'm going to need a day or so to simmer down before I watch another of his videos.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (9hauA)

Tim is not one of us, anymore than Jordan Peterson is.

He just happens to have some views in common on SOME issues.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (bcbK8)

141 Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom, School Confirms - Breaking911

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But they were camp videos!

Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (5NMZN)

142 My takeaway was that Ace did not enjoy the David French movie.
Posted by: TexasDan



Two snaps down in a circle.

Posted by: eleven at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (tH5fk)

143
Another medieval church in France is burning. Built in 1458. Methinks it might not be the Lutherans.

-------

I bet the fire inspectors have already ruled out arson.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (8XRCm)

144 68 There are also people just there for a paycheck.

That was me, I worked on Google Talk.


ah. so everything bad that happens is *your* fault.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (sGtp+)

145 The 230 Carve out is very explicit. Only a complete neophyte or a blatant political actor wouldn't see that.

But you know, lobbyist money talks and apparently beats the First Amendment.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 25, 2019 04:16 PM (VpIIl)

146 119
http://bit.ly/2X4740b

*******

Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom, School Confirms - Breaking911



Go on...

Posted by: Pron Dog at June 25, 2019 04:16 PM (UFLLM)

147 The best million dollars that could be spent would be a detailed, step-by-step "how to" guide to suing a big tech company in federal court for defamation; including the affidavit of inability to pay the filing fee so the filing is free.

Advertise the fuck out of it

100,000 defamation lawsuits--even if they all are dismissed--would hurt Google one hell of a lot.

On the low end: 1 hour to answer and one hour to draft the motion to dismiss. Let's say a cheap lawyer at $250/hour. $500 times 100k is $50 million

Death by a thousand cuts

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at June 25, 2019 04:16 PM (k81AA)

148 Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 04:14 PM (9gDA7)
*******
Probably on Pronhub

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 25, 2019 04:16 PM (BqBId)

149 Chris Buskirk: The only Republican taking any action to prevent Big Tech from manipulating the 2020 election is Josh Hawley.

Why doesn't @ real Donald Trump act? Why don't other Senators?

Tim Pool: This is why I said Republicans deserve to lose.

I'm not saying they should, I'm not saying its good or bad.

I'm saying that if your supporters can't speak and you don't care then you won't have any support. You reap what you sow

Posted by: andycanuck at June 25, 2019 04:16 PM (Dh1wo)

150 120 Speaking of Tim Pool, I watch his videos every day but his video yesterday about the Project Veritas expose seriously annoyed me. I'm going to need a day or so to simmer down before I watch another of his videos.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (9hauA)

Tim is getting more and more long-winded by the day.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:16 PM (sm6Pk)

151 -
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Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom, School Confirms - Breaking911

*******

This is right up the Hordes alley


Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM

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Photography, film making, biology, public speaking/moaning. Now THAT'S education

Posted by: irright at June 25, 2019 04:17 PM (RVcmP)

152 I think that the "true believers" are far down on the totem pole. The ones making noises with their face-holes in public and in Congress don't believe in anything other than their own Mandarin-class status and ripping off the rubes.
Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (LL1Be)

I see your point. To me though, if indeed they are trying to rip off the rubes, they would avoid pissing off a big section of their users.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 04:17 PM (Ez6QX)

153 94 Why do the cucks always like quoting themselves?

Is it megalomania? I mean it sounds like something Castro would do.

Two major ways to tell if someone is a Never-Trump corporate cuck:

1. They always find ways to retweet something from Jake Tapper. As if he is the only source of real news in the world.

2. They quote themselves like they are great figures from history.
Posted by: William Eaton at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (MuTTO)

Jimmy doesn't like it when you make fun of Jimmy for always referring to himself in the 3rd person.

Posted by: tom servo at June 25, 2019 04:17 PM (V2Yro)

154 Google ditched its "Don't be evil" corporate motto for "Do the right thing"

And of course that "thing" is evil.

Posted by: torabora at June 25, 2019 04:17 PM (Y274z)

155 140 Tim is not one of us, anymore than Jordan Peterson is.

He just happens to have some views in common on SOME issues.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (bcbK

I think most of us are aware of that.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:17 PM (sm6Pk)

156

It is unbelievable that people cannot see the difference between companies of old - selling products or services, and companies of new - controlling and selling data. Personal data. Their product is personal data.

French is living in the past. He stopped educating himself decades ago.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2019 04:17 PM (vEIlU)

157 Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom

Why didn't something like this ever happen when I was matriculating?

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always asks... at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (vtcmf)

158 Thanks Ace, so it wouldn't apply here. But imagine if you will, an AoSHQ horde numbering 30M strong...

You're gonna need a bigger barrel.


Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 04:13 PM (gPZ9i)

The pillaging and plundering would be epic.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (t6MX/)

159 Miguelifornia @michaelbeatty3
1h
REPORTER: "Do you have an exit strategy for Iran if war does break out?"
POTUS: "You're not gonna need an exit strategy. I don't need exit strategies"

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (BqBId)

160 Fascism. Period.

First, they come for your speech. Then, guns.

Then we're China.

Fuck you, liberals. You won't win the war you've started. Not a chance.

Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (9gDA7)

161 where were these fucking degenerate teachers when I was in school?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (uu5nn)

162 133 But these guys are not only not neutral, they specifically target legal (but un-PC) communication while leaving up terrorist stuff, pedo stuff, etc. Where are the "smart algorithms" taking THAT stuff down?

watching cat videos.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (sGtp+)

163
They seem quite happy to work on, and support the Great Firewall of Communist China.

Do they think Communist China is not evil?
Posted by: rd at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (EK+Pw)


I'm glad someone mentioned this.

China has their "social currency" internet up and running TODAY, which was created by Google. When caught red-handed (pun intended) Google claimed to stop working on it.

When it was 95% done. And then a few months later, the code that was supposedly thrown away is up and running in China.

Have you seen what this new Chinese Google does? Say something wrong, cross the street illegally, cuss in public, and the system identifies you and deducts "social credits" from you.

If you are too low, you cannot: ride public transportation, fly on a plane, or use many public resources.

It's Mao's F'n DREAM!


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Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (sy5kK)

164 Gates is only accidentally malevolent.

No. He's an asshole. He's just another dork who's trying to hang with the "cool kids". He'd probably sell his own mother if the hot clique let him sit at their lunch table - even if it was just to make fun of him and throw food at him.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (le1m7)

165 French Stewart > David French
Posted by: LizLem


French Disease>>David French

Posted by: Miklos, opinionating at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (QzkSJ)

166 And Apple celebrates the First Sin with a bite out of the apple.

Posted by: torabora at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (Y274z)

167
The name of that substitute teacher who filmed the porn has not been released yet.

No students were involved, they say. She just just the school as a set so to speak. Making hot for teacher type videos, I'm sure.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 25, 2019 04:19 PM (f1Vqw)

168 155 140 Tim is not one of us, anymore than Jordan Peterson is.

He just happens to have some views in common on SOME issues.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (bcbK

I think most of us are aware of that.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:17 PM (sm6Pk)

Good, good. Carry on.

*adjusts monocle*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:19 PM (bcbK8)

169 If we're going to talk about money well spent to fight tech giants, a good start might be idiot-proof export tools to help move off Gmail and generate lists of accounts whose email info needs updated as a result.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at June 25, 2019 04:19 PM (eAshZ)

170 Are we done talking about fake vaginas?

We are?

Well then, I'm outa here!

Posted by: Ed Gein's Ghost at June 25, 2019 04:19 PM (0dmP2)

171 Miguelifornia @michaelbeatty3
1h
REPORTER: "Do you have an exit strategy for Iran if war does break out?"
POTUS: "You're not gonna need an exit strategy. I don't need exit strategies"
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (BqBId)


That reporter is a piece of shit.

Did ONE REPORTER ask about Owebama's exit strategy for the 3 wars he started?

No.

FUCK YOU. #WAR

Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 04:19 PM (9gDA7)

172 163 Have you seen what this new Chinese Google does? Say something wrong, cross the street illegally, cuss in public, and the system identifies you and deducts "social credits" from you.

If you are too low, you cannot: ride public transportation, fly on a plane, or use many public resources.

It's Mao's F'n DREAM!


Brought to you by the fine folks at Goolag.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (sy5kK)

Stand too close to the wrong person, buy something the Party sees as a waste of time, lose credits.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:19 PM (sm6Pk)

173 where were these fucking degenerate teachers when I was in school?

The report says students weren't involved in the films.

Posted by: I read it for the articles at June 25, 2019 04:19 PM (sZRzw)

174 Gates may not be good, but Gates >> evil Google.

Start typing "Joe Biden sn" in Google and Bing and see what comes up in the autocomplete below.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at June 25, 2019 04:19 PM (9hauA)

175 158 Thanks Ace, so it wouldn't apply here. But imagine if you will, an AoSHQ horde numbering 30M strong...

You're gonna need a bigger barrel.


Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 04:13 PM (gPZ9i)

The pillaging and plundering would be epic.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (t6MX/)

Not to mention the pouncing and seizing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (bcbK8)

176 Colorado's snowpack is 40 times normal after rare summer solstice dump

Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (QkjLD)

177 I've just been told Knitty (online knitting magazine) is siding with Ravelry and has called us all Nazis.

Imagine what next year will be like.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (Lqy/e)

178 And Youtube's motto is "Broadcast Yourself" ...and then they censor it. Nice guys.

Posted by: torabora at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (Y274z)

179 Brought to you by the fine folks at Goolag.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (sy5kK)


The Chinese system is beta testing for the US system (if Google has their wish)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (vEIlU)

180 All this talk about French reminds me of French asthma. That's when you can only catch your breath in snatches.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (JgA4k)

181 I hope that "teacher" gets the chair.

That kind of shit ain't funny, a nd there should be some real pain and suffering to anyone who uses a school as their porn set.

We have enough problems in our society today without mouth-breathing retards making porn movies in a school. Fucking asshole.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 25, 2019 04:21 PM (VpIIl)

182
Good thing we've got Mitch McConnel riding shotgun on this. If only those libertarians... (fans pot smoke away from face) .. what was I saying?

Posted by: 13times at June 25, 2019 04:21 PM (K3B2k)

183 132 OT:
Another medieval church in France is burning. Built in 1458. Methinks it might not be the Lutherans.
Posted by: jmel at June 25, 2019 04:14 PM (OeWgo)

Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Dozens of times is your new overlords.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 25, 2019 04:21 PM (RD7QR)

184 Tim is not one of us, anymore than Jordan Peterson is.

He just happens to have some views in common on SOME issues.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (bcbK

I think most of us are aware of that.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:17 PM (sm6Pk)


Every time Crowder interviews him, Tim reminds everyone his views are left of center and he was a Bernie guy in 2016.

He just happens to be a left leaner with the capability of thought.

Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 04:21 PM (9gDA7)

185 157
Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom

Why didn't something like this ever happen when I was matriculating?


Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always asks... at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (vtcmf)

You got the Kaboom version of sex ed?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:21 PM (t6MX/)

186 And Youtube's motto is "Broadcast Yourself" ...and then they censor it. Nice guys.
Posted by: torabora at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (Y274z)
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It all makes sense if you realize one thing: they're lefties.

Never trust a lefty to know the meaning of words--or to mean them if they, by chance, do.

Posted by: Goolag at June 25, 2019 04:21 PM (DuZls)

187 YOUR new overlords

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 25, 2019 04:21 PM (RD7QR)

188 177 I've just been told Knitty (online knitting magazine) is siding with Ravelry and has called us all Nazis.

Imagine what next year will be like.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (Lqy/e)

It seems like they're all playing the "We're going to keep calling you Nazis until you decide to actually ACT like Nazis just to spite us, so we can say 'SEE, I TOLD YOU THEY WERE NAZIS!'" card.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (sm6Pk)

189 Tim Pool is not interested in misrepresenting anyone. That makes him better than 90% of the legacy press and 50% of youtube.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (9jwOB)

190 143
Another medieval church in France is burning. Built in 1458. Methinks it might not be the Lutherans.

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I bet the fire inspectors have already ruled out arson.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (8XRCm)

===========

Before I arrived in Spain, I kind of worried that I might be near a church where this could happen.

Then I visited a Spanish church (specifically the cathedral in Granada), and I saw the statue of King Ferdinand crushing an infidel under the hooves of his horse right next to the main altar and I stopped worrying.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (9cans)

191 Colorado's snowpack is 40 times normal after rare summer solstice dump

Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (QkjLD)

=
More undeniable proof of global warming. Give the leftist government more of your freedom, liberty, and guns.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (pw+jk)

192 The report says students weren't involved in the films.

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Seems the videos are very low budget...

Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (5NMZN)

193 Hawley's bill would just make censorship MORE likely, plus stick the camel's nose under the tent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (39g3+)

194 Chris Buskirk: The only Republican taking any action to prevent Big Tech from manipulating the 2020 election is Josh Hawley.

Why doesn't @ real Donald Trump act? Why don't other Senators?

Tim Pool: This is why I said Republicans deserve to lose.

I'm not saying they should, I'm not saying its good or bad.

I'm saying that if your supporters can't speak and you don't care then you won't have any support. You reap what you sow
Posted by: andycanuck at June 25, 2019 04:16 PM (Dh1wo)
***************
Like I stated earlier call your Republican Senators and let them know that this should be top priority.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (RBOtF)

195 Maduro's ex-spy chief lands in U.S. armed with allegations against Venezuelan government

Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (QkjLD)

196 Is it too hard too imagine that if Trump wins 2020, google, et al. will say that he's stolen the election and call a kind of general strike? Android phones stop working, amazon stops making deliveries, etc. until badorangeman steps down?

Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (Izzlo)

197 Gates is only accidentally malevolent.



No. He's an asshole. He's just another dork who's trying to hang
with the "cool kids". He'd probably sell his own mother if the hot
clique let him sit at their lunch table - even if it was just to make
fun of him and throw food at him.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (le1m7)

Went to college with his wife. Know a guy who broke up with her because she was too kinky (guy was no saint). Gates must really like butt stuff is all I know about him.

Posted by: dagny at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (nRWPy)

198 184 Every time Crowder interviews him, Tim reminds everyone his views are left of center and he was a Bernie guy in 2016.

He just happens to be a left leaner with the capability of thought.
Posted by: Sponge at June 25, 2019 04:21 PM (9gDA7)

The one interesting thing is that at times, he's admitted that the policies he wants are financially impossible.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:23 PM (sm6Pk)

199 Anyone for posting a good "Alternatives to Google" list for us? Especially the technologically impaired among us

Use DuckDuckGo for search, Firefox or Brave as a browser and buy your own domain with email service from NameCheap. I made all these changes after the Google Inquisition purged James Damore.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at June 25, 2019 04:23 PM (uGHnY)

200 157 Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom

Why didn't something like this ever happen when I was matriculating?
Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always asks... at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (vtcmf)

Because you were doing that in the bathroom? (Or SHOULD have been.)

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 25, 2019 04:23 PM (RD7QR)

201 Gates is only accidentally malevolent.

No. He's an asshole. He's just another dork who's trying to hang with the "cool kids". He'd probably sell his own mother if the hot clique let him sit at their lunch table - even if it was just to make fun of him and throw food at him.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (le1m7)


Gates, et al can be "globalists" because they can choose to live exactly where they want and move around freely without repercussions. There are no borders to them as far as where they want to go at any instant in time. But they sure have walls surrounding them wherever they go.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2019 04:23 PM (vEIlU)

202 135 Bob Dorian, Presenter of Classic Movies on AMC, Dies at 85
Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (QkjLD)

This one, I regret.

He was a good movie fan

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:23 PM (bcbK8)

203 Tim is not one of us, anymore than Jordan Peterson is.

He just happens to have some views in common on SOME issues.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:15 PM (bcbK

Oh, I know he's not conservative. It's refreshing to listen to a sane liberal voice. I often disagree with him but I like his videos and he seems honest.

He has a few traits that irritate me, but overall I think he's cool.

He just really annoyed me yesterday. I'll get over it.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at June 25, 2019 04:23 PM (9hauA)

204 177 I've just been told Knitty (online knitting magazine) is siding with Ravelry and has called us all Nazis.



Imagine what next year will be like.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (Lqy/e)


I hate fucking Knitzies.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:23 PM (t6MX/)

205 Tim Pool is not interested in misrepresenting anyone. That makes him better than 90% of the legacy press and 50% of youtube.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (9jwOB)
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Yup. And he and Jordan Peterson fall quite nicely in my radius of politics, because my politics are triage-republicanism: What will save the republic for another day.

Posted by: Goolag at June 25, 2019 04:23 PM (DuZls)

206 For a couple of months before Notre Dame French churches were being vandalized around 2 a week. There is no question in my mind who is doing it.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2019 04:24 PM (BbGew)

207 Anyone for posting a good "Alternatives to Google" list for us? Especially the technologically impaired among us.... :-}
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2019 04:06 PM (ujg0T)

The latter requirement is going to be the hard part.

You CAN get along without Apple, Google or MSFT. But you have to be pretty tech savvy or willing to put in the work to become such.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:08 PM (bcbK



I'm willing. Show me the way.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2019 04:24 PM (ujg0T)

208 I hope nobody seriously expects shareholders to rein this in. Even if they wanted to they couldn't. See, the stocks of many of these companies seriously dilute the voting rights of common owners while amplifying the voting rights of the original core owners, usually the founders. Effectively, Zuck, Dorsey, etc. automatically win every board vote because of how it's structured. That's why they never have to worry about shareholder revolts.

I imagine they'd like to impose similar schemes upon electoral voting, too, by the way.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, the Horde don't like my titles at June 25, 2019 04:24 PM (AM1GF)

209 Some of the crap that Google & Co are pulling should be considered undeclared in-kind political donations.

Posted by: 29Victor at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (BJKQV)

210 Is it too hard too imagine that if Trump wins 2020, google, et al. will say that he's stolen the election and call a kind of general strike? Android phones stop working, amazon stops making deliveries, etc. until badorangeman steps down?
Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (Izzlo)


When Trump wins in 2020, who to watch first? The View? or Morning Joe? or CNN?

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (vEIlU)

211 To me though, if indeed they are trying to rip off the rubes, they would avoid pissing off a big section of their users.

Sure. It seems really logical if the system isn't rigged.


But these guys have based their entire business model on scientific studies of active behavior modification. Mind control.
They have created an army of slavishly-devoted, drooling dopamine addicts.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (LL1Be)

212 OK, college is a big stemmy trade school, burn down all the other departments, you can learn philosophy on your own because basically it's simple and you can bullshit your way through, but we're in peril from H1b's because they don't understand American values.

You're going to choke on your bullshit if you shovel it any deeper.
Hey, that Falcon Heavy launch last night had 24 or so cute li'l satellites on it.

One of them belongs to my kid. It's what you might call a hobby.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (8ZmvG)

213 208 I hope nobody seriously expects shareholders to rein this in. Even if they wanted to they couldn't. See, the stocks of many of these companies seriously dilute the voting rights of common owners while amplifying the voting rights of the original core owners, usually the founders. Effectively, Zuck, Dorsey, etc. automatically win every board vote because of how it's structured. That's why they never have to worry about shareholder revolts.

I imagine they'd like to impose similar schemes upon electoral voting, too, by the way.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the Horde don't like my titles at June 25, 2019 04:24 PM (AM1GF)

Vince McMahon also does this with WWE.

Class-A vs. Class-B stock.

Any shares he sells off instantly downgrade to non-voting Class-B stock.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (sm6Pk)

214 Like public utilities, they need to be broken up.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (RBOtF)

215 -
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I hate fucking Knitzies.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:23 PM

------------------------

Put a fleshlight in it.

Posted by: Universal Advice at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (RVcmP)

216 I hope nobody seriously expects shareholders to rein this in. Even if they wanted to they couldn't. See, the stocks of many of these companies seriously dilute the voting rights of common owners while amplifying the voting rights of the original core owners, usually the founders.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, the Horde don't like my titles at June 25, 2019 04:24 PM (AM1GF)
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We *just* need the law to decide whether they are publishers or platforms.

Posted by: Goolag at June 25, 2019 04:26 PM (DuZls)

217 But these guys have based their entire business model on scientific studies of active behavior modification. Mind control.
They have created an army of slavishly-devoted, drooling dopamine addicts.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (LL1Be)


LOL.

Not this crap again ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:26 PM (le1m7)

218 Posted by: dagny at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (nRWPy)

*The More You Know Starburst*

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:26 PM (t6MX/)

219
Is it too hard too imagine that if Trump wins 2020, google, et al. will say that he's stolen the election and call a kind of general strike? Android phones stop working, amazon stops making deliveries, etc. until badorangeman steps down?
Posted by: josephistan at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (Izzlo)

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I can imagine it.

And that would be the end of the Republic.

4 or 5 days of that and we could officially start Face Mask Colander Times.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:26 PM (8XRCm)

220 This controversy is a SPECTACULAR opportunity for graft. Look forward to many years of double digit GAINZZZ for all sides.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 25, 2019 04:27 PM (6/uwW)

221 214 Like public utilities, they need to be broken up.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (RBOtF)

Oh lord, my life would be so much easier if PECO and PGW ever got knifed.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:27 PM (sm6Pk)

222 Hawley's bill would just make censorship MORE likely, plus stick the camel's nose under the tent.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 25, 2019 04:22 PM (39g3+)

Yeah, I've heard arguments against the bill (e.g.,from Bongino, who, unlike French, knows there's a huge problem). The concern is that it may backfire.

But at least it acknowledges these big tech companies are a dangerous problem. Hopefully, it gets a conversation started about how to deal with this issue.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at June 25, 2019 04:27 PM (9hauA)

223 I've just been told Knitty (online knitting magazine) is siding with Ravelry and has called us all Nazis.



Imagine what next year will be like.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2019 04:20 PM (Lqy/e)


I hate fucking Knitzies.
Posted by: flounder,


This is strangely funny, since my teenage son showed me a picture of a knitted figure that looked vaguely like Hitler; Knitler.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 25, 2019 04:27 PM (Z04f8)

224

I would laugh if people wrote in and elected Trump again for 2024. LOL

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2019 04:27 PM (vEIlU)

225 Class-A vs. Class-B stock.

Any shares he sells off instantly downgrade to non-voting Class-B stock.

Posted by: Hikaru


Yep. Thanks, I knew there were terms but I couldn't remember them.

We *just* need the law to decide whether they are publishers or platforms.

They own the lawmakers and regulators. What now?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, the Horde don't like my titles at June 25, 2019 04:28 PM (AM1GF)

226 Some of the crap that Google Co are pulling should be considered undeclared in-kind political donations.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (BJKQV)
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Totally.

These people they run around on fire about "emoluments" when somebody pays for a hotel room--but spending gobs of money to change the society the way Dems are pushing--to silence opposition to Dem causes--

did I hear crickets?

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:28 PM (DuZls)

227 224

I would laugh if people wrote in and elected Trump again for 2024. LOL
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2019 04:27 PM (vEIlU)

==========

Trump wins 2020.

He resigns, but acts as shadow president with Pence de fact president.

Trump runs in 2024 and wins.

Crazy? Of course.

Realistic? Of course not.

Entertaining? Possibly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:28 PM (9cans)

228 These big tech companies are the ones demanding " Hate speech " to be stopped and praying they are the ones assigned to stop it.

Posted by: Skip at June 25, 2019 04:28 PM (BbGew)

229 This is strangely funny, since my teenage son showed me a picture of a knitted figure that looked vaguely like Hitler; Knitler.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 25, 2019 04:27 PM (Z04f
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Oh sure. It's all fun and games until the Reichstag burns.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:29 PM (DuZls)

230 LOL.



Not this crap again ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


You are unfamiliar with the studies?
Try it. Go tell MawMaw to delete her FaceBook page.

Go tell a 16 yr old to delete their Instagram.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:29 PM (LL1Be)

231 I see zero problem with removing there 230 exemption. There is more than adequate evidence they don't deserve it and in this explicit context I have no reservations about the government.

You can't use a so-called "neutral" carve out and then use it as a ruse to protect your very partisan operation.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 25, 2019 04:29 PM (VpIIl)

232 Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom, School Confirms - Breaking911
*******
This is right up the Hordes alley
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at June 25, 2019 04:11 PM (BqBId)

Sorry. I was more distracted by the 'No Bra needed!' clickbait ad picture.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 25, 2019 04:29 PM (ycWCI)

233 Trump wins 2020.

He resigns, but acts as shadow president with Pence de fact president.

-------------------------

I don't think Trump is capable of acting as a shadow of any sort.

Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (5NMZN)

234 See, the stocks of many of these companies seriously dilute the voting rights of common owners while amplifying the voting rights of the original core owners, usually the founders.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, the Horde don't like my titles at June 25, 2019 04:24 PM (AM1GF)


To be fair, they set them up this way and people happily bought stock that, basically, had no voting power. Fuck those people if they change their minds later (like the idiots holding FarceBook stock who are bitching about it).

Further, these companies generally pay no dividends, on top of that, and therefore the only utility of their stocks (without voting power) to stockholders is in shareprice gains. They are doing fine as the bullshit Fed has floated the entire market on clouds of nothing but the minute the stock market starts to return to normal (and it will) that will all be nothing but a long lost memory and people will be stuck with no-vote, do-nothing, non-dividend paying pieces of paper that are, essentially, meaningless. Fuck them. That's what they bought.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (le1m7)

235 Devin Nunes is suing Twitter.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (RBOtF)

236 Is it too hard too imagine that if Trump wins 2020, google, et al. will
say that he's stolen the election and call a kind of general strike?
Android phones stop working, amazon stops making deliveries, etc. until
badorangeman steps down?

Posted by: josephistan
======
We'll look back fondly on October of '16 when the left ridiculed Trump mercilessly for hesitating when asked if he would accept Hillary's electoral victory.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (t41dG)

237 I'm willing. Show me the way.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2019 04:24 PM (ujg0T)

Start here:
https://tinyurl.com/ybo3bwtd

Protonmail instead of gmail
Linux OS for computer
Flip phone instead of smartphone or try LineageOS instead Google on an Android phone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (bcbK8)

238 233 Trump wins 2020.

He resigns, but acts as shadow president with Pence de fact president.

-------------------------

I don't think Trump is capable of acting as a shadow of any sort.
Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (5NMZN)

===========

He'd be the best shadow. The most luxurious shadow.

He'd be yuge.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (9cans)

239 People keep saying Ravelry is a private site and they can do what they want. But they are a business. Does anyone think they would be allowed to censor gays?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (Lqy/e)

240 I don't think Trump is capable of acting as a shadow of any sort.

Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (5NMZN)
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Is that because he's racist?

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:31 PM (DuZls)

241 Big Tech knows the search history and has access to the email of every person who is in a position to challenge Big Tech.

Posted by: Anchovy at June 25, 2019 04:31 PM (srWwQ)

242 239 People keep saying Ravelry is a private site and they can do what they want. But they are a business. Does anyone think they would be allowed to censor gays?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (Lqy/e)

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They shouldn't have a problem with banning Jews, I don't think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:31 PM (9cans)

243 ""We're going to keep calling you Nazis until you decide to actually ACT
like Nazis just to spite us, so we can say 'SEE, I TOLD YOU THEY WERE
NAZIS!'" card."

no, they will keep getting us fired, demonetized, and keep slandering us ... till they decide to actually start burning our homes ... then we will act in self defense and stop them. "We" will never be acting like Nazis ... but we might decide to defend our homes and our country and our sovereignty ... like the founders did.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 25, 2019 04:31 PM (Cus5s)

244

If you are too low, you cannot: ride public transportation, fly on a plane, or use many public resources.



It's Mao's F'n DREAM!





Brought to you by the fine folks at Goolag.





Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 04:18 PM (sy5kK)

This was a Black Mirror episode starring Bryce Dallas Howard, I believe.
Freaking reality now.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 25, 2019 04:31 PM (ufFY8)

245 Crush them with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2019 04:31 PM (AmeQT)

246 238 233 Trump wins 2020.

He resigns, but acts as shadow president with Pence de fact president.

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I don't think Trump is capable of acting as a shadow of any sort.
Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (5NMZN)

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He'd be the best shadow. The most luxurious shadow.

He'd be yuge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (9cans)

He knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men. Bigly.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:31 PM (NWiLs)

247 Further, these companies generally pay no dividends, on top of that, and therefore the only utility of their stocks (without voting power) to stockholders is in shareprice gains. They are doing fine as the bullshit Fed has floated the entire market on clouds of nothing but the minute the stock market starts to return to normal (and it will) that will all be nothing but a long lost memory and people will be stuck with no-vote, do-nothing, non-dividend paying pieces of paper that are, essentially, meaningless. Fuck them. That's what they bought.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Oh, no question. I was just letting folks know the shareholders weren't going to stop this business.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, the Horde don't like my titles at June 25, 2019 04:32 PM (AM1GF)

248 237 I'm willing. Show me the way.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2019 04:24 PM (ujg0T)

Start here:
https://tinyurl.com/ybo3bwtd

Protonmail instead of gmail
Linux OS for computer
Flip phone instead of smartphone or try LineageOS instead Google on an Android phone.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (bcbK



THANK YOU. "Droid" mobile phones unfortunately come with Goolag all set up.

On Desktops I am sure it is easier to avoid The Goolag.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2019 04:32 PM (ujg0T)

249 Fuck those nevertrumper cocksuckers in particular.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 25, 2019 04:32 PM (FiUMj)

250 How does politics come into play on a knitting website? Are people asking for patterns for swastikas?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at June 25, 2019 04:32 PM (JgA4k)

251 You are unfamiliar with the studies?

I'm all too familiar with "psychological studies". We've already been through this crap.

Try it. Go tell MawMaw to delete her FaceBook page.

Go tell a 16 yr old to delete their Instagram.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:29 PM (LL1Be)


Give me a fucking break.

Go tell a 16 yr old to do anything.

Sheesh. Enough of this silliness.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:32 PM (le1m7)

252 This was a Black Mirror episode starring Bryce Dallas Howard, I believe.
Freaking reality now.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt


That episode of The Orville from season one. I'm still shocked that made it to air.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, the Horde don't like my titles at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (AM1GF)

253 Oh, I know he's not conservative. It's refreshing to listen to a sane liberal voice. I often disagree with him but I like his videos and he seems honest.

He has a few traits that irritate me, but overall I think he's cool.

He just really annoyed me yesterday. I'll get over it.
Posted by: chique d'afrique


His need to remind everyone in each video that's he's a 'centrist' and then proceeds to hold out 'the far right and the far left' as punching bags for his thesis is beyond annoying.

I hate fence-riders who reflexively need to place themselves in the "center" of the debate. It's just affected narcissism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (DrqHq)

254 250 How does politics come into play on a knitting website? Are people asking for patterns for swastikas?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at June 25, 2019 04:32 PM (JgA4k)

============

"I made a MAGA sweater for my grandson! Here's my pattern!"

"You're a racist piece of shit and deserve to die. NoH8."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (9cans)

255 246 238 233 Trump wins 2020.

He resigns, but acts as shadow president with Pence de fact president.

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I don't think Trump is capable of acting as a shadow of any sort.
Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (5NMZN)

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He'd be the best shadow. The most luxurious shadow.

He'd be yuge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (9cans)

He knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men. Bigly.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:31 PM (NWiLs)

Best.
Blog.
Ever.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (bcbK8)

256 229
This is strangely funny, since my teenage son showed me a picture of a knitted figure that looked vaguely like Hitler; Knitler.



Posted by: Blue Hen at June 25, 2019 04:27 PM (Z04f

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Oh sure. It's all fun and games until the Reichstag burns.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:29 PM (DuZls)

And the night of the long needles.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (t6MX/)

257
French toast > David French

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 25, 2019 04:00 PM (O8WFE)







Does that equation change if David French covers himself in salt?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (veoSD)

258 Sheesh. Enough of this silliness.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Interesting take.


Big tech stock guy, I guess?

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:34 PM (LL1Be)

259 She handed me a heart shaped locket that said
"To thine own self be true"
And I shivered as I watched a roach crawl across
The toe of my high heel shoe
It sounded like somebody else that was talkin'
Askin' mama what do I do
She said just be nice to the gentlemen, Frenchy,
They'll be nice to you

Posted by: David French at June 25, 2019 04:34 PM (LjsrK)

260 Does that equation change if David French covers himself in salt?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (veoSD)

Like a French fry?

Posted by: David Franch at June 25, 2019 04:34 PM (O8WFE)

261 Big tech stock guy, I guess?

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:34 PM (LL1Be)


Rational being.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:34 PM (le1m7)

262 I think for the 202 election you are going to see combined efforts, the type of which nobody has ever seen, to beat Trump. It will be the complete gamut, including blatantly illegal activity and fraud.It will be a full on media assault from all angles.

Democrats, along with Soros money have weaponized the AG and SoS offices in many states. There will be a slew of baseless indictments of the president coming out of grand juries all over the place and a full on campaign to destroy his reputation with specific electoral groups.

Democrats have shown there are no limits to their authoritarian attempts to rule over us, and people should be very mindful they are at war with anyone who opposes them. They also believe, rightly, if they win they will be spared investigation and prosecution.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (VpIIl)

263 That episode of The Orville from season one. I'm still shocked that made it to air.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, the Horde don't like my titles at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (AM1GF)

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I kinda like The Orville. Alot of lefty virtue signalling to be sure, be very individual freedom oriented.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (8XRCm)

264 253 Oh, I know he's not conservative. It's refreshing to listen to a sane liberal voice. I often disagree with him but I like his videos and he seems honest.

He has a few traits that irritate me, but overall I think he's cool.

He just really annoyed me yesterday. I'll get over it.
Posted by: chique d'afrique

His need to remind everyone in each video that's he's a 'centrist' and then proceeds to hold out 'the far right and the far left' as punching bags for his thesis is beyond annoying.

I hate fence-riders who reflexively need to place themselves in the "center" of the debate. It's just affected narcissism.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (DrqHq)

Centrists don't vote for Socialists.

Tim's a Liberal, at best.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (bcbK8)

265 261
Rational being.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:34 PM (le1m7)

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Ah, so you invest in Coke.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (9cans)

266 >>Whatever happened to their old motto,
First, Don't Be Evil?


Turns out that Evil pays really, really well.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (bDqIh)

267 Can a 'neutral platform' censor?

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (WT0+I)

268 *adjusts monocle*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Which one?

Posted by: Miklos Cocles at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (QzkSJ)

269 they want it both ways, AND have been getting it both ways ... so of course they think they can push it to the ultimate end ... fascism.


Google lady states it .. Fairness ... for their certain values, which means censoring those that are not PC drones ... Orwellian level of "fairness"


... Love = Hate (whitey) ...

Peace = War (against you white westerner)


Fairness = No Fairness for you, Western Civ'

Posted by: illiniwek at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (Cus5s)

270 His need to remind everyone in each video that's
he's a 'centrist' and then proceeds to hold out 'the far right and the
far left' as punching bags for his thesis is beyond annoying.



I hate fence-riders who reflexively need to place themselves in the "center" of the debate. It's just affected narcissism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (DrqHq)

I am similarly disaffected. I appreciate his willingness to talk, but centrists annoy the piss out of me. There is no moral virtue in claiming the middle ground for the middle ground's sake. Stake out a position and defend it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (t6MX/)

271 262 I think for the 202 election you are going to see combined efforts, the type of which nobody has ever seen, to beat Trump. It will be the complete gamut, including blatantly illegal activity and fraud.It will be a full on media assault from all angles.

Democrats, along with Soros money have weaponized the AG and SoS offices in many states. There will be a slew of baseless indictments of the president coming out of grand juries all over the place and a full on campaign to destroy his reputation with specific electoral groups.

Democrats have shown there are no limits to their authoritarian attempts to rule over us, and people should be very mindful they are at war with anyone who opposes them. They also believe, rightly, if they win they will be spared investigation and prosecution.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (VpIIl)

This x1000

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (Ez6QX)

272 What do policymakers not understand? Why are they so blind? Perhaps re-election campaign money, perhaps organizations like National Review being bought off by tech company donations--who can really say?

Perhaps oodles of lobbyists parading all over Capitol Capital Hill? I read recently that, with the ramped up interest from Congress in the matter of Big Tech business conduct, that the Tech outfits have increased their lobbying budgets by some 600%

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (o7l6R)

273 268 *adjusts monocle*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Which one?
Posted by: Miklos Cocles at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (QzkSJ)

....the...one with the smartgun link?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (bcbK8)

274 I came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.



Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)

275 I would laugh if people wrote in and elected Trump again for 2024. LOL
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2019 04:27 PM (vEIlU)


Given the GOP's track record, that will surely be the best choice.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (y7DUB)

276 I came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.



Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)

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Darn it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)

277 Funny, I would have assumed the Nazis weren't big fans of knitters...

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (oZ6kz)

278 I've been beating the drum of removing the 230 carve out for social media for a long time. It's long past time. Act like a platform, get treated like one. Act like a publisher by editing/suppressing content, get treated like one. Pretty sure FB, Twitter et al really don't want that to happen. Their pockets aren't deep enough.

Posted by: physics geek at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (huQJB)

279 I hate fence-riders who reflexively need to place themselves in the "center" of the debate. It's just affected narcissism.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM (DrqHq)

I don't disagree. I find declared "centrism" lame at best. I still like his stuff, though.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (9hauA)

280 Centrists don't vote for Socialists.

Tim's a Liberal, at best.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:35 PM (bcbK


Yep. ANyone who takes a socialist seriously, let alone friggin votes for one, is, to my mind, a useless individual whose opinion on anything is worthless.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (le1m7)

281 She said, "Here's your chance Frenchy don't let me down"
Here's your one chance Frenchy don't let me down
Lord forgive me for what I do, but if you want out well, it's up to you
Now don't let me down now your mama's gonna move you uptown

Posted by: David French at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (LjsrK)

282
There is nothing wrong with Big Tech that a damn good carpet bombing wouldn't fix

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (OLCnA)

283 -
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I hate fence-riders who reflexively need to place themselves in the "center" of the debate. It's just affected narcissism.



Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2019 04:33 PM

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I don't understand your gibberish at all.

Posted by: Little Benny Shapiro at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (RVcmP)

284 Double standards is whats for dinner.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (0OmEj)

285 Second best use of money would be maps and locations of all Google's data centers

And the fiber lines feeding them

They may be online beasts but they still live in the physical world

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (k81AA)

286
I came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.



Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)

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Darn it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)







Yeah, had me in stitches.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (veoSD)

287 Gotta brainwash the chilluns early: https://archive.fo/kGgX4

With each passing day I keep getting "Sign of the Beast" vibes from these totalitarians. It's as if they thought 1984 was an Authoritarianism for Dummies manual rather than a cautionary tale.

Posted by: Saber Alter at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (+om3e)

288 Eat it and be happy they say.



Fuck em.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (0OmEj)

289 I hate fence-riders who reflexively need to place themselves in the "center" of the debate. It's just affected narcissism.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

I've got straw men I haven't even used yet.

Posted by: Barry-O at June 25, 2019 04:39 PM (QzkSJ)

290 283
I don't understand your gibberish at all.
Posted by: Little Benny Shapiro at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (RVcmP)

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"On the one hand, Leftist are trying to destroy America and replace it with 21st century feudalism and rule the masses with an iron fist. On the other hand, Trump is icky and not of my class. I hate them both!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:39 PM (9cans)

291 I've noticed a trend in customer service

"John" from Bangalore is getting replaced with "John" from Ukraine or Bulgaria.

Pros: Bulgaria John generally speaks English I can understand

Cons: All my info is now in Bulgaria.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at June 25, 2019 04:39 PM (FiUMj)

292 286


I came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.





Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)



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Darn it.



Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)


Maybe you can selvedge it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:39 PM (t6MX/)

293 Give me a fucking break.



Go tell a 16 yr old to do anything.




Believe what you want. I don't know you or who the fuck this "WE" is who have "discussed this" and "settled the science" or what the fuck ever.


"We" (AOSHQ) talk all the time about the weak-minded mentally ill masses who are ready to accept and fully support cutting off 10 year old's dicks on a whim.
But you can't get your head around getting a dopamine fix from SM?

Got it.



Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:39 PM (LL1Be)

294 This whole thing is going to get VERY interesting. Twatter, FuckFaceBook and Google are going to have some 'splanin to do VERY soon.

No they won't. The three people in Washington who are on our side (at least, I'm hoping there's a third!) are pretty busy already.

Posted by: t-bird at June 25, 2019 04:39 PM (WT0+I)

295 287 Gotta brainwash the chilluns early: https://archive.fo/kGgX4

Posted by: Saber Alter at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (+om3e)

Awesome.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 04:40 PM (Ez6QX)

296 That 'Fancy' song always gives me chills.

People don't know what real poverty is until you're whoring your kids out to get food and medicine.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:40 PM (bcbK8)

297 Hey, that Falcon Heavy launch last night had 24 or so cute li'l satellites on it.

One of them belongs to my kid. It's what you might call a hobby.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 25, 2019 04:25 PM (8ZmvG)

It better have friggin' Lasers!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 25, 2019 04:40 PM (Kpl3J)

298 French is a milksop COC asswhore. Nothing more.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 25, 2019 04:40 PM (AmeQT)

299 It wasn't long after a benevolent man
Took me in off the street
And one week later I was pourin' his tea
In a five room hotel suite
I charmed a king, a congressman and an occasional Aristocrat
Then I got me a Georgia Mansion
In an elegant New York townhouse flat
And I ain't done bad

Posted by: David French at June 25, 2019 04:40 PM (LjsrK)

300 292 286


I came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.





Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)



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Darn it.



Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)


Maybe you can selvedge it.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:39 PM (t6MX/)

Forget it. It's all just purls before swine.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:40 PM (NWiLs)

301 297 With each passing day I keep getting "Sign of the Beast" vibes from these totalitarians. It's as if they thought 1984 was an Authoritarianism for Dummies manual rather than a cautionary tale.
Posted by: Saber Alter at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (+om3e)

They rushed past 1984 and Brave New World and went straight for Zardoz.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:40 PM (sm6Pk)

302
I can't say as to whether it was intentional or not - I'm not an engineer for a big tech firm.

But I see little to contradict the assertion that tech is changing people. And, yes, many do seem to be addicted.

I can say, for instance, that the verbal skills of younger people are undeniably, markedly worse than ten years ago.

Try getting the average 22yo (someone you don't know intimately, and who would be naturally conversant with you) to hold a conversation, verbally, in English for more than a couple of minutes. They struggle. You can tell it's uncomfortable for them, and they'd rather be hammering away on the phone to communicate.

And that's just one example of many, but it's a seriously big change in the way humans relate to one another.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 25, 2019 04:41 PM (AzW6q)

303 I can give you one. Google data center in The Dalles OR. Dark fiber is from BPA.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2019 04:41 PM (Lqy/e)

304 The three people in Washington who are on our side (at least, I'm hoping there's a third!) are pretty busy already.


-------

Lets see......

Trump

and..... ummmm..... well ...... *scratches head ....


I only get to ONE

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:41 PM (8XRCm)

305 Posted by: Knitler


Was it over when the Germans bombed perl harbor?

Posted by: Miklos, hell no at June 25, 2019 04:41 PM (QzkSJ)

306 Trump wins 2020.

He resigns, but acts as shadow president with Pence de fact president.

Trump runs in 2024 and wins.

Crazy? Of course.

Realistic? Of course not.

Entertaining? Possibly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read some Movie Thoughts and Pre-Order Crystal Embers Today! at June 25, 2019 04:28 PM (9cans)



More realistic: Trump serves out 2021-2025, gets Pence elected in 2024, and serves on in the Pence Cabinet.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 25, 2019 04:41 PM (ujg0T)

307 That 'Fancy' song always gives me chills

***

Works for Frenchy though...

Posted by: David French at June 25, 2019 04:41 PM (LjsrK)

308 It better have friggin' Lasers!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 25, 2019 04:40 PM (Kpl3J)

Little teeny rods from Zod?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:42 PM (t6MX/)

309 285 Second best use of money would be maps and locations of all Google's data centers

And the fiber lines feeding them

They may be online beasts but they still live in the physical world
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (k81AA)

Chasing the data centers is Quixotic, at best. They have failover and redundancy. The only thing more portable than money is data.

Personnel, now...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:42 PM (bcbK8)

310 If we don't do something about this I really don't see how we can win in 2020. Of course, that's their plan.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 25, 2019 04:42 PM (RBOtF)

311 286
I came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.

Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)

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Darn it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)


Yeah, had me in stitches.


You like my purls of wisdom?

Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:42 PM (O8WFE)

312 >>How does politics come into play on a knitting website? Are people asking for patterns for swastikas?


One of the site's features is knitting groups based on shared interests, whatever that may be. The idea was you could chat as if you were hanging out and knitting together. For the most part, everyone found a like-minded group and stayed in their lane, chatting about cats, politics, whatever. However, for years - like, even back in 2008 - there were a couple of groups that formed specifically to drop into other groups, ID a target, and then troll them/lodge complaints about them.

So, it was designed to foster non-knitting discussions among knitters, to serve as a gathering place, communities. Then the trolls started doing what trolls do, the site managers are Lefty and took the trolls' side and the harassment and deplatforming has been building for over a decade.

Blogger bookwormroom has a post with details from long-time members on how this has unfolded.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 25, 2019 04:42 PM (bDqIh)

313 Yeah, had me in stitches.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

He's just needling you.

Posted by: Miklos, hell yes at June 25, 2019 04:42 PM (QzkSJ)

314 Try getting the average 22yo (someone you don't know intimately, and who would be naturally conversant with you) to hold a conversation, verbally, in English for more than a couple of minutes. They struggle. You can tell it's uncomfortable for them, and they'd rather be hammering away on the phone to communicate.

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That might be my breath though.

Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:43 PM (5NMZN)

315 Little teeny rods from Zod?
Posted by: flounder



Oooohhhh. 10 gauge flechette rounds.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 04:43 PM (21UM+)

316 Try getting the average 22yo (someone you don't know intimately, and who
would be naturally conversant with you) to hold a conversation,
verbally, in English for more than a couple of minutes. They struggle.
You can tell it's uncomfortable for them, and they'd rather be hammering
away on the phone to communicate.


I really want to hear it explained how this perfectly cogent point is "irrational".

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:43 PM (LL1Be)

317 They rushed past 1984 and Brave New World and went straight for Zardoz.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:40 PM (sm6Pk)

THE PENIS IS EVIL!!!

Damn, you're right!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 25, 2019 04:43 PM (Kpl3J)

318 Oooohhhh. 10 gauge flechette rounds.
Posted by: rickb223

I'll have to talk to Bob about that.

Posted by: Suzanne Flechette at June 25, 2019 04:44 PM (QzkSJ)

319 I came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.

Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)

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Darn it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)


Yeah, had me in stitches.


You like my purls of wisdom?

Yeah, had me in stitches.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

He's just needling you.

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Good string of puns there.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:44 PM (8XRCm)

320 "Turns out that Evil pays really, really well."Posted by: Lizzy

we made the oligarchs uber rich with LTCM in '99, even crazier with TARP/QEs in 2008 ... they have the money, their tax free foundations stated social media is their Trojan Horse.


It started with easy money monetary policy (and voodoo deficit spending), and all currencies went fiat ... momentum stocks ran to infinity (with infinity leverage, underwritten by America itself). So Amazon was the hot play ... lose money for 20 years and drive all brick and mortars out of business. Buy a newspaper to control news ... buy half of Congress --


But Google is even more of a PsyOp by the globalists (than Amazon) ... as we are seeing revealed. Because Google can actually implement Orwellian mind control ... connect all you phone call or "overheard by Alexa" or email conversation into a personalized credit score, personalized search results ... helping to modify your behavior. (defund, shadow ban, cancel credit or Paypal access ... and more)

Posted by: illiniwek at June 25, 2019 04:44 PM (Cus5s)

321 Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:39 PM (LL1Be)

Do you really know anything about dopamine beyond the name?

Do you really think psycholgists and neuroscientists have cracked the secret of addiction and habituation?

LOL.

As I said to ace before (in this discussion) the accusation that these tech firms are "designing their sites to be addictive [sic]" is no different than the design and marketing of any consumer product. Everybody wants to make a product that people can't get enough of and can't live without. EVERYBODY.

But you think that Big Tech has their team of evil psychologists and neuroscientists secretly working on the formulae to make their sites totally addictive?

I mean, come on. That's just silly. Oooh. THey're siccing their psychologists on us. Quick, put on the tin foil cap before their mind-control rays hit us!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:45 PM (le1m7)

322 -
--
Funny, I would have assumed the Nazis weren't big fans of knitters...


Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM

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Dat iz because you are not verring ze SS-issue cashmere unterpants. Ooooh.. uhh.. (eyes cross)

Posted by: H. Himmler at June 25, 2019 04:45 PM (RVcmP)

323 The three people in Washington who are on our side (at least, I'm hoping there's a third!) are pretty busy already.


-------

Lets see......

Trump

and..... ummmm..... well ...... *scratches head ....


I only get to ONE
Posted by: fixerupper


Trump, Don Jr, Barron.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 04:45 PM (21UM+)

324 David French can suck my dick.

Posted by: Peter Buttjag at June 25, 2019 04:46 PM (r+sAi)

325 First. Eff Google.
Posted by: Jordan61

LOL !

Posted by: JT at June 25, 2019 04:46 PM (HwnaO)

326 I came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.

Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)

------

Darn it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)


Yeah, had me in stitches.


You like my purls of wisdom?
Posted by: Knitler

They make me afrayed.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 25, 2019 04:46 PM (Z04f8)

327 But Google is even more of a PsyOp by the globalists (than Amazon) ...
as we are seeing revealed. Because Google can actually implement
Orwellian mind control ... connect all you phone call or "overheard by
Alexa" or email conversation into a personalized credit score,
personalized search results ... helping to modify your behavior.
(defund, shadow ban, cancel credit or Paypal access ... and more)


Unpossible.
The science is settled.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:46 PM (LL1Be)

328 I came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.

Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)

------

Darn it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)


Yeah, had me in stitches.


You like my purls of wisdom?

Yeah, had me in stitches.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

He's just needling you.

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Good string of puns there.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:44 PM


***

They form the fabric of our times

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 04:46 PM (axyOa)

329 Good string of puns there.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:44 PM (8XRCm)

We reap what we sew. Don't bobble it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:46 PM (t6MX/)

330 Go tell a 16 yr old to do anything.

Sheesh. Enough of this silliness.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:32 PM (le1m7)

My kids at 16. *shivers*

Posted by: troyriser at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM (mSO8Y)

331 anyway, looks like the cyberpunk future I read about in the 80's is going to come true after all.

I just never thought I'd be old in it. Funny that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM (bcbK8)

332 They form the fabric of our times
Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 04:46 PM (axyOa)

That's just spin.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM (NWiLs)

333 came here to knit socks and repossess the Sudentenland. And I'm all out of yarn.

Posted by: Knitler at June 25, 2019 04:36 PM (O8WFE)

------

Darn it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)


Yeah, had me in stitches.


You like my purls of wisdom?

Yeah, had me in stitches.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

He's just needling you.

------

Good string of puns there.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:44 PM (8XRCm

Don't turn this into a pun thread.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM (qQ7kL)

334 331 anyway, looks like the cyberpunk future I read about in the 80's is going to come true after all.

I just never thought I'd be old in it. Funny that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM (bcbK

So when do I get my wired reflexes?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:48 PM (NWiLs)

335 310 If we don't do something about this I really don't see how we can win in 2020. Of course, that's their plan.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 25, 2019 04:42 PM (RBOtF)

Evil will always triumph because good is dumb

Posted by: DH at June 25, 2019 04:48 PM (BJKQV)

336 But you think that Big Tech has their team of evil psychologists and
neuroscientists secretly working on the formulae to make their sites
totally addictive?


Now who's being silly?

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:48 PM (LL1Be)

337 334 331 anyway, looks like the cyberpunk future I read about in the 80's is going to come true after all.

I just never thought I'd be old in it. Funny that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM (bcbK

So when do I get my wired reflexes?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:48 PM (NWiLs)

#twoweeks

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:48 PM (bcbK8)

338 332
They form the fabric of our times

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 04:46 PM (axyOa)



That's just spin.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM (NWiLs)

I'm a frayed knot.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:48 PM (t6MX/)

339 Gotta brainwash the chilluns early: https://archive.fo/kGgX4

Posted by: Saber Alter at June 25, 2019 04:38 PM (+om3e)
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The fapping in that post is deafening!

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:49 PM (DuZls)

340 331>>>

I don't even care what it says about me, I'm taking my piece of it and getting a moment before the crackdown is complete.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:49 PM (r7ssB)

341 I'm a frayed knot.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:48 PM (t6MX/)

-------

The Horde is really batting this around.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 25, 2019 04:49 PM (AzW6q)

342 That's just spin.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM (NWiLs)

I'm a frayed knot.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:48 PM (t6MX/)
---
Weave got plenty to talk about in this thread.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:50 PM (DuZls)

343
My kids at 16. *shivers*

Posted by: troyriser at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM


****

Well crap!
My Granddaughter is 16.

Sighs...

Pulls first beer of the day out of the man-fridge.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 04:50 PM (axyOa)

344 They form the fabric of our times

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 04:46 PM (axyOa)



That's just spin.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:47 PM (NWiLs)

I'm a frayed knot.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:48 PM (t6MX/)

Don't let the spin loom over you . Take it for what its knot.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 04:50 PM (qQ7kL)

345 "Do we want un-elected global monopolistic corporations - entities that may or may not consider themselves American companies, ruling you by algorithms?"

We are not "ruled" by algorithms. The problem you are trying to solve is that _some_ users of _some_ platforms are dupes. You can't legislate away stupidity.

"Do we want them limiting the flow of information in the online public arena, manipulating it to benefit themselves and their view of the world?"

Prohibit everybody from "limiting" and "manipulating" information? You just killed AoSHQ, the whole internet and all other forms of comms. What else do people do with info but "manipulate" it?

"Or do we want duly elected leaders of a constitutional republic defending our rights?"

You mean government commissars given new powers to order us what we can, and cannot, and _must_ say.

Go ahead, pass new f*n laws that require us to "manipulate" information in only government-approved ways, you fools.

Posted by: gp F*cking Loves Science at June 25, 2019 04:50 PM (mk9aG)

346 Don't let the spin loom over you . Take it for what its knot.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 04:50 PM (qQ7kL)
---
Wool do.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:51 PM (DuZls)

347 I'm a frayed knot.
Posted by: flounder


I ate two pieces of string yesterday. They came out tied together.

I shit you knot!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 04:52 PM (21UM+)

348 you know, the thing that is so disgusting about french and his is that they have decided to sell out their country for so little.

you know they are not getting seven figures or even high five figures for this.

similar to when some gov employee is found to be throwing contracts to some co for something around 0.01 of the value of the contracts.

when you decide to sell out your beliefs and your country at least get more than 13 of silver.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2019 04:52 PM (HALdu)

349 But at least it acknowledges these big tech companies are a dangerous problem. Hopefully, it gets a conversation started about how to deal with this issue.

Sure, and maybe the possibility of this happening might get them to be more careful, but I'm 100% opposed to government interference in the internet.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 25, 2019 04:52 PM (39g3+)

350 340 331>>>

I don't even care what it says about me, I'm taking my piece of it and getting a moment before the crackdown is complete.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:49 PM (r7ssB)

*raises drink in Hikaru's direction*

Ride forever, shiny and chrome.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 04:52 PM (bcbK8)

351
Big Tech just does it better than anyone ever has before.They have taking marketing to a whole new level.

America's Love Affair with the Automobile on steroids.
And yes I am aware that dopamine is a hormone produced by the brain that makes people feel good.

But please, Rational Professor Science.

Put us some real knowledge.


All us ijits out here in Dumbfuckville can't wait to hear your brilliant pontifications from the top of Mt. Arrogance.

Posted by: mikeyG : G stands for Garbage Person at June 25, 2019 04:53 PM (LL1Be)

352 304>>>

Gohmert? Nunes?

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:53 PM (r7ssB)

353 Go ahead, pass new f*n laws that require us to "manipulate" information in only government-approved ways, you fools.
Posted by: gp F*cking Loves Science at June 25, 2019 04:50 PM (mk9aG)

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Which is why I approve of the trust-busting approach instead. Yes, I understand it would cause a national/global market disruption. But it's better than government regulation of speech, and I prefer that to corporate censors standing in for the government in that role.

Let a generation of tech entrepreneurs take the lesson to heart and keep their hands to themselves.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 25, 2019 04:53 PM (AzW6q)

354 Don't let the yarn puns get under your skein.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2019 04:53 PM (gC2IV)

355 I'm dying from the Knitler puns

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 25, 2019 04:53 PM (dm05u)

356 *recalls the past AoS thread on vagina crotcheting*

*basks in the warmth*

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:53 PM (t6MX/)

357 if you've got to remind yourself to not be Evil, there's something seriously wrong with you to start with

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at June 25, 2019 04:54 PM (RKQ/v)

358 Holy Heh, Batman, not sure if you all saw this tweet stolen from a post at Insty about the lunatic rapey lady:

https://tinyurl.com/y6jk9gh2

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 25, 2019 04:54 PM (r+sAi)

359 355
I'm dying from the Knitler puns

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 25, 2019 04:53 PM (dm05u)

Knit has no home here.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:54 PM (t6MX/)

360 Do you think the support of suburban women might be important to Trump's re-election? Do you think isolating them socially might be a good way to put a crimp in it?

It's only Tuesday and I've been called a white supremicist and a Nazi.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2019 04:54 PM (Lqy/e)

361 you know, it is widely recognized that puns are a level of entertainment below hardcore.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2019 04:54 PM (HALdu)

362 Gohmert? Nunes?
Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 04:53 PM (r7ssB)
Meadows, Jordan, Hawley

Posted by: redridinghood at June 25, 2019 04:55 PM (RBOtF)

363 "Do we want them limiting the flow of information in the online public arena, manipulating it to benefit themselves and their view of the world?"

AoSHQ and every other site on the internet, and every writer, producer and editor "manipulat[es 'the flow of info'] to benefit themselves and their view of the world." It's called free speech. Cripes.

Posted by: gp F*cking Loves Science at June 25, 2019 04:55 PM (mk9aG)

364 It's as simple as removing their neutral platform protections. Why should they enjoy special privilege over other forms of media?

Posted by: Someguy at June 25, 2019 04:55 PM (QHOe8)

365 Knitter was a Knotzi

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 04:55 PM (qQ7kL)

366
*recalls the past AoS thread on vagina crotcheting*

*basks in the warmth*
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:53 PM (t6MX/)

-----------

AoSHQ love is like pissing your pants.

Everybody can see it. . . . but only you can feel its warmth.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:56 PM (8XRCm)

367 I'm a frayed knot.
Posted by: flounder,

This thread is unraveling.

Posted by: Miklos, seeing unwoven entropy at June 25, 2019 04:56 PM (QzkSJ)

368 AoSHQ is exposed to legal liability if they do something like advocate for armed overthrow of the government. Google is not.

Posted by: Someguy at June 25, 2019 04:56 PM (QHOe8)

369 AoSHQ love is like pissing your pants.



Everybody can see it. . . . but only you can feel its warmth.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 25, 2019 04:56 PM (8XRCm)


BRB

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 25, 2019 04:56 PM (t6MX/)

370 Sure, and maybe the possibility of this happening might get them to be more careful, but I'm 100% opposed to government interference in the internet.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at J



merely applying the law to internets companies is not government interference.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 25, 2019 04:57 PM (HALdu)

371 AoSHQ love is different from that of a square.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:57 PM (NWiLs)

372 This thread is unraveling.
Posted by: Miklos, seeing unwoven entropy at June 25, 2019 04:56 PM (QzkSJ)
---
Shuttle to think it.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:57 PM (DuZls)

373 365 Knitter was a Knotzi

that sounds more like a macramé thing

Posted by: Anachronda at June 25, 2019 04:58 PM (sGtp+)

374 367 I'm a frayed knot.
Posted by: flounder,

This thread is unraveling.
Posted by: Miklos, seeing unwoven entropy at June 25, 2019 04:56 PM (QzkSJ)

It sure seams that way

Posted by: DH at June 25, 2019 04:58 PM (BJKQV)

375 "AoSHQ and every other site on the internet, and every writer, producer and editor "manipulat[es 'the flow of info'] to benefit themselves and their view of the world."

By banning their competitors! No wait... Only Google does that.

Posted by: Chris M at June 25, 2019 04:58 PM (eAZVt)

376 This thread is unraveling.
Posted by: Miklos, seeing unwoven entropy at June 25, 2019 04:56 PM (QzkSJ)
---
Shuttle to think it.
Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 04:57 PM (DuZls)

Loop back around later and it may be on track.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 04:58 PM (qQ7kL)

377 371 AoSHQ love is different from that of a square.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 25, 2019 04:57 PM (NWiLs)

It's hard out there for a pimp. Or a moron.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 25, 2019 04:58 PM (RD7QR)

378 361 you know, it is widely recognized that puns are a level of entertainment below hardcore.

you can tell because there is no such thing as punhub

Posted by: Anachronda at June 25, 2019 04:59 PM (sGtp+)

379 The horde can spin a good yarn.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at June 25, 2019 04:59 PM (0OmEj)

380 *recalls the past AoS thread on vagina crotcheting*


oh God... no, no, it's too late, we can't go back there.

Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 04:59 PM (gPZ9i)

381 374
367 I'm a frayed knot.

Posted by: flounder,



This thread is unraveling.

Posted by: Miklos, seeing unwoven entropy at June 25, 2019 04:56 PM (QzkSJ)



It sure seams that way

Posted by: DH at June 25, 2019 04:58 PM (BJKQV)

Walk away.

Posted by: Wheezer at June 25, 2019 04:59 PM (t6MX/)

382 On that knitting site someone had knitted a voodoo doll of Trump and they have the usual pink pus*y hats on display.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 25, 2019 04:59 PM (RBOtF)

383 When you guys see the final draft of the 5273 page "Internet Platform Fairness-Doctrine Law" that comes out of our brain-dead Congress and their Democrat members and staff, you will rue the day you ever asked for this.

Posted by: gp F*cking Loves Science at June 25, 2019 05:00 PM (mk9aG)

384 The chairmen of the House Judiciary and House Intelligence Committees hope to decide this week whether to subpoena former special counsel Robert Mueller, California Rep. Adam Schiff said on Tuesday.

"We need to resolve this this week, and I hope we will. One way or another, he needs to come in and testify, and time is running out," Schiff told reporters, according to The Hill.

Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 05:00 PM (QkjLD)

385 What is the age demographic that Google/Facebook/Amazon is aiming at for deplatforming?

I'm 57 and just retired from the main reason for using Fb. Deplatform me. Won't hurt my feelings.
Wal Mart is pushing hard to fight Amazon. Wal Mart doesn't care what it's customers think. If they did, they wouldn't have any customers.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 05:00 PM (21UM+)

386 The puns provide for a Fuller experience.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 25, 2019 05:00 PM (gC2IV)

387 Also, pretending that corporations are interested in a free and fair competition is retarded. If they could they'd be using soldiers to duke out like the guilds of Italy

Posted by: Someguy at June 25, 2019 05:00 PM (QHOe8)

388 And honestly, I think the tech firms are far more afraid of anti-trust actions than regulation - as soon as Trump is gone and their cronies are back in charge, they can go back to violating the regulations/laws at will and turning them on their enemies.

If you break their companies to bits it's much harder to come back from.

I think they would welcome regulatory/legislative action over that litigation.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (AzW6q)

389 I'm a big fan of Facebook.

Posted by: Analpundit at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (SQJ3d)

390 "I mean, come on. That's just silly. Oooh. THey're siccing their
psychologists on us. Quick, put on the tin foil cap before their
mind-control rays hit us!!"

nothing silly about it ... they may not order us to cluck like a chicken, but revisionist history and repetition of the lies (walls closing in) is a tactic. Most advertising is light "brainwashing" (play like Jordan with our slave made shoes) but it has a certain level of effect.


There are multiple levels of "persuasion". the CIA works at flipping people, all spies do this to some degree. "They" have improved on "the deception of Eve".

Posted by: illiniwek at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (Cus5s)

391 When you guys see the final draft of the 5273 page "Internet Platform Fairness-Doctrine Law" that comes out of our brain-dead Congress and their Democrat members and staff, you will rue the day you ever asked for this.


Posted by: gp F*cking Loves Science at June 25, 2019 05:00 PM


***

And one look at Nadler and you know he's just a friggin' Internet genius.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (axyOa)

392

No one knows what it's like
To be the Mad Men
To be the Sad Men
Behind blue bits

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (aKsyK)

393 you will rue the day


Rue the day? Who talks like that?

Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

394 Thomas Vicor wears a colander on his head when he does videos. He's ready to turn that hat into a face mask no doubt.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (9jwOB)

395 you will rue the day


Rue the day? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

People who make gumbo.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 05:02 PM (qQ7kL)

396 The puns provide for a Fuller experience.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

I'm dyeing over here!

Posted by: Miklos, frowning through tears of laughter at June 25, 2019 05:02 PM (QzkSJ)

397 Although not from my goop.com site, I thought I would inform my many friends and patrons here about the great deal iTunes currently has on a number of Nickleback albums, $4.99 & $5.99 for a whole album. Collect them all!

Posted by: Gwenyth P., Lifestyle Coach at June 25, 2019 05:02 PM (PC5Ge)

398 Congress doesn't write laws gp. Quite literally that is not the case. Most laws aren't even passed through Congress anyways, don't set your hair on fire.

Posted by: Someguy at June 25, 2019 05:02 PM (QHOe8)

399 you will rue the day


Rue the day? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

People who make gumbo.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 05:02 PM


***

And gravy!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:02 PM (axyOa)

400 395 you will rue the day


Rue the day? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

People who make gumbo.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 05:02 PM (qQ7kL)

I gar-on-tee!

Posted by: Justin Wilson at June 25, 2019 05:02 PM (NWiLs)

401 393
you will rue the day





Rue the day? Who talks like that?

Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

It's roux the day.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, pedant wrangler at June 25, 2019 05:03 PM (t6MX/)

402 What the Hell did David French ever do for me except cheerlead for policies that guaranteed I lose?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 25, 2019 05:03 PM (oVJmc)

403 382 On that knitting site someone had knitted a voodoo doll of Trump and they have the usual pink pus*y hats on display.

one of the projects I am forever contemplating but never completing is to crochet myself a golden scalp weasel. this would be a weasel-shaped hat; well, more of a hat-shaped stuffed animal that looks kind of like some type of weasel.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 25, 2019 05:03 PM (sGtp+)

404 you will rue the day


Rue the day? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chris Knight


Those over 40.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 05:03 PM (21UM+)

405
The puns provide for a Fuller experience.
Posted by: Duke Lowell


Don't give me the brush-off!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM (aKsyK)

406 Do carrots go in gumbo?


Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM (axyOa)

407 401>>>

"BAM!"

--Emeril

Posted by: Hikaru at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM (9DlhW)

408 It's roux the day.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, pedant wrangler at June 25, 2019 05:03 PM (t6MX/)
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Rats of Unusual Xylophones.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM (DuZls)

409 403
382 On that knitting site someone had knitted a voodoo doll of Trump and they have the usual pink pus*y hats on display.



one of the projects I am forever contemplating but never completing
is to crochet myself a golden scalp weasel. this would be a
weasel-shaped hat; well, more of a hat-shaped stuffed animal that looks
kind of like some type of weasel.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 25, 2019 05:03 PM (sGtp+)

Do it. I'd buy one.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, pedant wrangler at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM (t6MX/)

410 Rats of Unusual Xylophones.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM



From the fireswamp.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:05 PM (axyOa)

411

Madlyn Rhue the day

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 25, 2019 05:05 PM (aKsyK)

412 "Wal Mart doesn't care what it's customers think. If they did, they wouldn't have any customers."Posted by: rickb223

I don't understand ... of course WalMart cares ... they match Amazon's prices now ... even offer cheap shipping. But I think your point is they are not intent on brainwashing us to some political agenda? (that was maybe clear, and I may be dull ha ... I'm just clarifying)

Posted by: illiniwek at June 25, 2019 05:05 PM (Cus5s)

413 You are trying to turn the internet into PBS. Now I have to extinguish my hair. Sorry.

Posted by: gp F*cking Loves Science at June 25, 2019 05:05 PM (mk9aG)

414 406
Do carrots go in gumbo?





Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM (axyOa)

Only if you want a knitting needle to the eyeball.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, pedant wrangler at June 25, 2019 05:05 PM (t6MX/)

415 Do carrots go in gumbo?


Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM (axyOa)

I think I'd rather carrots than okra.

SW LA gumbo > New Orleans style gumbo

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 25, 2019 05:05 PM (qQ7kL)

416 From the fireswamp.

Click click....

Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 05:05 PM (gPZ9i)

417 Do carrots go in gumbo?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM (axyOa)


Carrots don't go in anything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 05:06 PM (le1m7)

418 I mean, come on. That's just silly. Oooh. THey're siccing their psychologists on us. Quick, put on the tin foil cap before their mind-control rays hit us!!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 04:45 PM (le1m7)

The scientists are creating the AI. The AI is maximizing profits by maximizing page views and time spent on the site. The industry term for time spent on the site is "Stickiness". It is measured for each user and aggregated as a daily measure of the business.

The AI has billions of iterations of interactions to learn what drives the eyeballs and keeps them there. It looks like outrage is a really good driver of clicks and eyeballs. So, people's news feeds are inundated alternately with the echo chamber which is people driven, i.e. friends, family members etc. and outrage inducing posts driven by the AI. Want to know why people are so wound up these days? Because Zuckerberg built an outrage machine.

As for Google, it accounts for more than 80% of internet searches. They literally control the flow of information for the public. The FCC used to get up in arms about who owned how many television stations and newspapers so that no one had too much of the market. They would crap their pants well below 50%, and 80% would be unthinkable.

As for the future, it might be worth looking into setting HIPAA style regulations for data. In other words, you own your data rather then Google or Facebook, and they get spanked hard for misusing it or allowing it to be hacked.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 25, 2019 05:06 PM (jp0Bv)

419 Carrots don't go in anything.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 05:06 PM (le1m7)

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Oh yeah?

Posted by: Hope Solo at June 25, 2019 05:06 PM (AzW6q)

420 Oh Gawd!

Okra!!!

Vile!!!!

Putrescence!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (axyOa)

421 Carrots go in pot roast,Okra goes in gumbo,Clams go in chowder
Kale goes in the damn trash.

Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (gPZ9i)

422 Rue the day? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

Lazlo. In his underwear.

Posted by: DH at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (BJKQV)

423 What supposedly triggered Rav was a knitted cowl. It had Trump 2020 knitted in as well as Keep
america Great. It's available on Etsy.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (Lqy/e)

424 to crochet myself a golden scalp weasel. this would be a
weasel-shaped hat; well, more of a hat-shaped stuffed animal that looks
kind of like some type of weasel.

Posted by: Anachronda

Golden yarn and silver needles
Will adorn this scalp of mine
And I think I'l celebrarte winning
With a case of fine Trump wine

Posted by: Miklos, oh, it IS Happy Hour at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (QzkSJ)

425 one of the projects I am forever contemplating but never completing
is to crochet myself a golden scalp weasel. this would be a
weasel-shaped hat; well, more of a hat-shaped stuffed animal that looks
kind of like some type of weasel.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 25, 2019 05:03 PM (sGtp+)

ooh,an excuse to try needle felting!

Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (dm05u)

426 -
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Do carrots go in gumbo?



Asking for a friend.



Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:04 PM (axyOa)



Carrots don't go in anything.


Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 05:06 PM

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Oh, I wouldn't say that.

Posted by: a REALLY passionate gardener at June 25, 2019 05:08 PM (RVcmP)

427 I don't understand ... of course WalMart cares ... they match Amazon's prices now ... even offer cheap shipping. But I think your point is they are not intent on brainwashing us to some political agenda? (that was maybe clear, and I may be dull ha ... I'm just clarifying)
Posted by: illiniwek


Exactly. Sorry. Driving.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 05:08 PM (21UM+)

428 Everybody here understands the dangers of govt gun control. Why do so few understand the dangers of govt internet content control?

Posted by: gp And His Crispy Scalp at June 25, 2019 05:08 PM (mk9aG)

429 Needle Felting?

I'm afraid to even goog, er, Bing that one.

Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 05:09 PM (gPZ9i)

430 Someone please tell Trump. He's asleep at the switch on this.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 25, 2019 05:09 PM (H8QX8)

431 Lazlo. In his underwear.
Posted by: DH

I made that for my Viktor.

Posted by: Ilsa at June 25, 2019 05:09 PM (QzkSJ)

432 This thread is not complete without a Muldoon knitting limerick.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, pedant wrangler at June 25, 2019 05:09 PM (t6MX/)

433 You should know we already have a few bureaucracies who could do various things about the situation.

Bureaucracies also write most laws. Congress just creates new orgs and delegates authority to them. We don't actually need new orgs or new laws to do anything about this.

Posted by: Someguy at June 25, 2019 05:09 PM (QHOe8)

434 So important it bears repeating:


Socialists are simply Communists without guns.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 05:09 PM (sy5kK)

435 428
Everybody here understands the dangers of govt gun control. Why do so
few understand the dangers of govt internet content control?

Posted by: gp And His Crispy Scalp at June 25, 2019 05:08 PM (mk9aG)

You mean like selectively granting liability immunity?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, pedant wrangler at June 25, 2019 05:10 PM (t6MX/)

436 My deal is that I'm STILL pissed off about the gay cake nonsense.

And no one's going to Jack Dorsey with some right-wing remark and making him type it onto Twitter with his own hands and on his own time.

But that's what they force bakers to do.

And which one's legal, now?

Posted by: RKae at June 25, 2019 05:10 PM (z7C6w)

437 Yikes... Now Trump is the Torturer-in-Chief... All the media and the Dems are claiming this... What a load of crap.

Posted by: It's me donna at June 25, 2019 05:10 PM (O2RFr)

438 427 I don't understand ... of course WalMart cares ... they match Amazon's prices now ... even offer cheap shipping. But I think your point is they are not intent on brainwashing us to some political agenda? (that was maybe clear, and I may be dull ha ... I'm just clarifying)
Posted by: illiniwek


Exactly. Sorry. Driving.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 05:08 PM (21UM+)

Love ya rickb--no homo--but stop that. Seriously, it's unsafe.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 25, 2019 05:10 PM (RD7QR)

439 There are more gun control laws on the books than you could shake a stick at. You'll note the Horde is comfortably armed.

Posted by: Someguy at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (QHOe8)

440 Enforcing existing law is NOT content control.
They're abusing the 230 cutout.
They're violating existing anti-trust law.
etc.

Playing with cheaters is a losing proposition.

Posted by: DaveA at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (FhXTo)

441 438
Yikes... Now Trump is the Torturer-in-Chief... All the media and the Dems are claiming this... What a load of crap.

Posted by: It's me donna at June 25, 2019 05:10 PM (O2RFr)

Dems: How dare Trump torture our little brown political pawns!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, pedant wrangler at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (t6MX/)

442 422 Rue the day? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

Lazlo. In his underwear.
Posted by: DH at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (BJKQV)

Hm. I thought it was Kent, naked with Jello.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (Ez6QX)

443 What's the ruling on pickles/pickle juice in egg salad?

Posted by: 29Victor at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (BJKQV)

444 "The AI has billions of iterations of interactions to learn what drives the eyeballs and keeps them there."

yeah, but the point is they are not "driving eyeballs for dollars", they would sacrifice dollars for their political agenda ... stopping Trump like candidates is their fascist agenda ... not increased revenue.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (Cus5s)

445 444 What's the ruling on pickles/pickle juice in egg salad?
Posted by: 29Victor at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (BJKQV)

I like to add relish, does that count?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 05:12 PM (bcbK8)

446 What's the ruling on pickles/pickle juice in egg salad?

Posted by: 29Victor at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM


***
Dill is acceptable.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 25, 2019 05:12 PM (axyOa)

447 444
What's the ruling on pickles/pickle juice in egg salad?

Posted by: 29Victor at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (BJKQV)

Why ruin a perfectly good pickle?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, pedant wrangler at June 25, 2019 05:12 PM (t6MX/)

448 428 Everybody here understands the dangers of govt gun control. Why do so few understand the dangers of govt internet content control?
Posted by: gp And His Crispy Scalp at June 25, 2019 05:08 PM (mk9aG)

what we need is gov't carrot control.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 25, 2019 05:12 PM (Kpl3J)

449 443 422 Rue the day? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

Lazlo. In his underwear.
Posted by: DH at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (BJKQV)

Hm. I thought it was Kent, naked with Jello.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (Ez6QX)

It was HOT and he needed a SNACK

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 05:12 PM (bcbK8)

450 443 422 Rue the day? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

Lazlo. In his underwear.
Posted by: DH at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (BJKQV)

Hm. I thought it was Kent, naked with Jello.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (Ez6QX)

He should really stop touching himself

Posted by: 29Victor at June 25, 2019 05:12 PM (BJKQV)

451 I've taken up knitting now
I really like it, and how
I wanted to do a face
Have to begin someplace
Maybe first, I'll knit a brow

Posted by: The very hunble Miklos at June 25, 2019 05:12 PM (QzkSJ)

452 The chairmen of the House Judiciary and House Intelligence Committees hope to decide this week whether to subpoena former special counsel Robert Mueller, California Rep. Adam Schiff said on Tuesday.

"We need to resolve this this week, and I hope we will. One way or another, he needs to come in and testify, and time is running out," Schiff told reporters, according to The Hill.
Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 05:00 PM (QkjLD)


If Mueller testifies, it will be good for Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2019 05:13 PM (NFEMn)

453 Love ya rickb--no homo--but stop that. Seriously, it's unsafe.
Posted by: joncelli


I only read-post at red lights. That's why some comments seem clipped and rushed. I might have 35 to 40 seconds.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 05:13 PM (21UM+)

454 The AI has billions of iterations of interactions to learn what drives the eyeballs and keeps them there. It looks like outrage is a really good driver of clicks and eyeballs. So, people's news feeds are inundated alternately with the echo chamber which is people driven, i.e. friends, family members etc. and outrage inducing posts driven by the AI. Want to know why people are so wound up these days? Because Zuckerberg built an outrage machine.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 25, 2019 05:06 PM (jp0Bv)


That's something new? Shock jocks, just to mention one little group, has known that outrage and argument drive interest. Pretty much everyone knows that. I would venture to say that this little tidbit has been part of the collective knowledge since the beginning of recorded time. You don't need any AI to arrive at that.

Before the internet there was the boob tube that people had their faces plastered to. I'm willing to bet (and give you good odds) that there were tons of reports on the addictiveness of the boob tube and how they were designing shows to be addictive (the cliffhanger at the end of the season). I would bet there was a lot of the same about radio even before that. SO, now it's AI zombifying innocent people ...

People need to step back for a bit. There is no nefarious mind-control shit going on. Are people trying to control your mind? I have no doubt they want to. People always have. For all different reasons. Are there companies who have cracked the secret of mind control I don't think so. I laugh when I contemplate it, to be honest.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 05:13 PM (le1m7)

455 Pickles are an acceptable add to egg salad. Olives however, are not.

Mama would add surprise boiled potatoes from time to make it feed twice as many people.

Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 05:13 PM (gPZ9i)

456 434 So important it bears repeating:


Socialists are simply Communists without guns.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 05:09 PM (sy5kK)

Thankfully.

This may be relevant soonish.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous Lion: buy ammo at June 25, 2019 05:13 PM (bcbK8)

457 --
BBL

Got a whole lot of penis to sip.


Posted by: David French at June 25, 2019 03:57 PM

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Working in the pole mine
Goin down, down, down...

Posted by: Lee Frenchley at June 25, 2019 04:02 PM (RVcmP)


Nothing to add. Just thought it beared repeating.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (z79tQ)

458 -
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Now Trump is the Torturer-in-Chief... All the media and the Dems are claiming this... What a load of crap.


Posted by: It's me donna at June 25, 2019 05:10 PM

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Heh. Seems accurate. He tortures them every day with his very existence. He is the worst thing to ever happen to them, including deaths in their families. Ask them. They will tell you.

Posted by: irright at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (RVcmP)

459 Imagine having David French in your circle.

Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (WCfRV)

460 Poster 1: "Giving your kids vaccines is shooting them with poison, don't do it"
Big Tech: "We are a platform that allows free speech."

Poster 2: "Giving your kids hormones to change their gender is shooting them with poison, don't do it"
Big Tech: "We are removing hate speech from our forum."

Posted by: LizLem at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (hvf9s)

461 I think of Trump as The Great Clarifier. He showed us who are real allies are, the guys and gals we can depend on in a fight. The ones we can feel safe sharing a foxhole with. And, by extension, he showed us who the fakes, grifters, and pussies are.

The beautiful thing about the Trump era, whether it lasts until 2024 or ends next year, is that the Frenches, Goldbergs, Kristols, Wilsons, Sykes, et al are done. They will NEVER be welcome on the right ever again. And once Trump is gone the left will be done with them as well.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (3ufaJ)

462 Go ahead, pass new f*n laws that require us to "manipulate" information in only government-approved ways, you fools.
Posted by: gp F*cking Loves Science


You didn't read what Ace wrote because you really love your hobby horse.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (DrqHq)

463 The issue is that this is NOT just about American Law.

Its about the laws of other Countries, and their lack of Freedom of Speech protections.

Thus, International Companies will hide behind THOSE standards, and use that power to limit our speech.

Because the US Government and Courts have decided it is NOT their duty to protect our Rights.

Just as its NOT a Policeman's Legal duty to protect you. They have absolved themselves of all responsibility, while retaining, and even amassing, Power.

We need a Law that says, if you are a company and working over State Lines, you must support and abide by the Bill of Rights, or you are not allowed to do business in the US.

Posted by: Don Q at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (NgKpN)

464 Something you can try sometime, with friends - "Rue the Day" is just amazingly hard to work into a casual conversation at the office.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (Kpl3J)

465 Working in the pole mine
Goin down, down, down...

Posted by: Lee Frenchley

Yep

Posted by: Jack Dorsey at June 25, 2019 05:15 PM (QzkSJ)

466 Something you can try sometime, with friends - "Rue the Day" is just amazingly hard to work into a casual conversation at the office.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (Kpl3J)

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Challenge accepted.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 25, 2019 05:15 PM (AzW6q)

467 Trump wins 2020.

He resigns, but acts as shadow president with Pence de fact president.

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I don't think Trump is capable of acting as a shadow of any sort.
Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (5NMZN)

I can actually see him resigning a couple of years into his second term--especially if he get's his wall--and is no longer being hassled.
If he does, it will be on his terms and at the time of his choosing.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 25, 2019 05:15 PM (NFEMn)

468 467
Something you can try sometime, with friends - "Rue the Day" is just
amazingly hard to work into a casual conversation at the office.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (Kpl3J)



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Challenge accepted.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 25, 2019 05:15 PM (AzW6q)

You will rue the day. Done.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner, pedant wrangler at June 25, 2019 05:16 PM (t6MX/)

469 Peter Courtney, president of the Oregon Senate Democrats, announced on the floor Tuesday he no longer has the floor votes to pass HB2020, the cap-and-trade climate bill that Republicans walked out of the capitol building six days ago to block.

"House Bill 2020 does not have the votes on the Senate floor," Courtney told Democratic senators who had gathered for roll-call, according to KGW8. "That will not change."

Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 05:16 PM (QkjLD)

470 Poster 1: "Giving your kids vaccines is shooting them with poison, don't do it"
Big Tech: "We are a platform that allows free speech."


Allow your kid to get smallpox.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 05:16 PM (21UM+)

471 Neville Chamberlin on his worst appeasing day was a gutter knife fighter compared to 90% of todays politicians.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 25, 2019 05:16 PM (LGo6U)

472 Nood up

Posted by: IP at June 25, 2019 05:16 PM (gPZ9i)

473 Yikes... Now Trump is the Torturer-in-Chief... All the media and the Dems are claiming this... What a load of crap.
Posted by: It's me donna at June 25, 2019 05:10 PM (O2RFr)
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One blue-check idiot said that Trump was murdering kids at the border. And if you weren't going to admit that Trump was murdering kids at the border, then he had no use for you.

Posted by: Axeman at June 25, 2019 05:16 PM (DuZls)

474 He should really stop touching himself

God?

Posted by: Kent at June 25, 2019 05:16 PM (9t0Zz)

475 398 Congress doesn't write laws gp. Quite literally that is not the case. Most laws aren't even passed through Congress anyways, don't set your hair on fire.
Posted by: Someguy at June 25, 2019 05:02 PM (QHOe


You have just identified the key problem of today's government.

Laws are not made by those that are elected. Congress has given up it's power to the Bureaurcracy, and just sits around and get paid and solidify their personal guaranteed benefits.

Today, we are back to Taxation Without Representation, just like the 1700's. Except instead of the British, it is a group of government workers who generally ignore their bosses, because those bosses will be gone soon. And the extra protections they currently possess, growing over generations, make fixing anything impossible. Congress, GFY.

Eliminate Civil Service and Union protections for Govt workers. Or bow down and suck it.

Your choice, comrade.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 25, 2019 05:17 PM (sy5kK)

476 451 443 422 Rue the day? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:01 PM (OMsf+)

Lazlo. In his underwear.
Posted by: DH at June 25, 2019 05:07 PM (BJKQV)

Hm. I thought it was Kent, naked with Jello.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 25, 2019 05:11 PM (Ez6QX)

He should really stop touching himself
Posted by: 29Victor at June 25, 2019 05:12 PM (BJKQV)

things are getting weird around here, ya know?

Posted by: Lazlo T. Hollfeld at June 25, 2019 05:17 PM (NgKpN)

477 470 Peter Courtney, president of the Oregon Senate Democrats, announced on the floor Tuesday he no longer has the floor votes to pass HB2020, the cap-and-trade climate bill that Republicans walked out of the capitol building six days ago to block.

"House Bill 2020 does not have the votes on the Senate floor," Courtney told Democratic senators who had gathered for roll-call, according to KGW8. "That will not change."
Posted by: SMOD at June 25, 2019 05:16 PM (QkjL

Its a trap!

Posted by: Crawdad admiral from Star Wars at June 25, 2019 05:18 PM (LGo6U)

478 We need a Law that says, if you are a company and working over State Lines, you must support and abide by the Bill of Rights, or you are not allowed to do business in the US.

Posted by: Don Q at June 25, 2019 05:14 PM (NgKpN)


Uh ... no.

The Bill of Rights has nothing to do with private companies. End of story.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 05:19 PM (le1m7)

479 things are getting weird around here, ya know?
Posted by: Lazlo T. Hollfeld at June 25, 2019 05:17 PM (NgKpN)
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It's a moral imperative.

Posted by: Chris Knight at June 25, 2019 05:19 PM (DuZls)

480 Trump wins 2020.

He resigns, but acts as shadow president with Pence de fact president.

-------------------------

I don't think Trump is capable of acting as a shadow of any sort.
Posted by: Undocumented at June 25, 2019 04:30 PM (5NMZN)

I can actually see him resigning a couple of years into his second term--especially if he get's his wall--and is no longer being hassled.
If he does, it will be on his terms and at the time of his choosing.
Posted by: JoeF


I don't see an alpha resigning for any reason.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 25, 2019 05:19 PM (21UM+)

481 YouTubeTV is without a doubt competing head to head with cable companies, providing the exact same same content, benefiting from the exact same advertising dollars. It's essentially a content provider that runs on top of the YouTube platform. It requires mental gymnastics and ignorance to claim they are any different than Comcast or DirectTV.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 25, 2019 05:21 PM (Sk/5h)

482 noood btw

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 25, 2019 05:21 PM (vEIlU)

483 Are there companies who have cracked the secret of mind control I don't think so. I laugh when I contemplate it, to be honest.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 05:13 PM (le1m7)

Don't think of it as mind control, think of it as influence. It's a nudge, not a sledge hammer. And you're absolutely right, it's not new. The plug for the 11 o'clock news has generally been, "It could kill your children and it's probably in your kitchen right now! Tune in at eleven to find out all about it!"

What is new is the personalization. It's an order of magnitude more influential than it has ever been. That's why the people paid millions of dollars to endorse products on Instagram are called "Influencers". And it does have significant influence on people's behavior. This isn't the same as old school tv ads.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 25, 2019 05:26 PM (jp0Bv)

484 From further upstream, Where is the church in France that is burning? All I see when I try to search for the news is old Notre Dame articles.

I am sure they are trying to bury this news from the plebes before they put two and two together.

Posted by: LizLem at June 25, 2019 05:28 PM (hvf9s)

485 188: They compared complaining that we are not "tolerated" to Nazis doing the same thing, because if you tolerate the intolerant, tolerance is gone for good. These pussyheaded hos (look at Breitbart's pic) are pretty stupid.

Posted by: CN at June 25, 2019 05:39 PM (U7k5w)

486 French has it right on this one, it is with much peril if conservatives start advocating for regulation on business regarding speech or any other matter. The media and I use that term to include Facebook, Google, Twitter and all the rest is left wing but so what. They where unable to prevent Trump from winning in 2016, they will not be the reason he looses, if he losses in 20. They did not prevent the Senate and House from being retaken in 2010, could not prevent Bush in 2000 (kinda wish they had, although Roberts is ok). Before that they could not prevent Republicans from taking the House back in 94 after 40 years and they could not stop the Gipper and lord knows how they tried. Point being this is a non-issue, there are plenty of conservative outlets like this one to get the gospel out. The problem I have with French et al. is this hand wringing over polarization. The left hates the right to the point of violence. The right is not going to ever see eye to eye with the left, this has nothing to do with conservative media and all to do with ideology. At what point will never-trumpers realize the state the country is in has nothing to do with anything in the media and everything to do with committed leftist who want to rule the world. The sad part is we have elected Republicans that would rather go along to get along.

Posted by: Mark Wilson at June 25, 2019 05:44 PM (J33Mu)

487 start killing g and f and t. the employees and owners.

Posted by: CW at June 25, 2019 05:45 PM (mtUJN)

488 I don't mind going after Google, Twitter, et al using any tool that anybody wants to, but what makes more sense to me than the Section 230 approach is to explicitly add political orientation as a protected class under civil rights legislation. Then let those who are discriminated against sue the living crap out of the m'fers. That would shut down their BS right quick.

Posted by: Lawrence L at June 25, 2019 05:57 PM (Uu7xZ)

489 Ace wants the government to interfer with business ?
He wants to regulate capitalism ?
Why? Because he doesn't like their political leanings ?
What happened tonfree market capitalism ?

Posted by: Kurt at June 25, 2019 06:09 PM (7uxKo)

490 157 Female HS Teacher Filmed Porn Videos In Classroom... Why didn't something like this ever happen when I was matriculating?

It did, but you shut your eyes when matriculating, and now you're blind anyway, aren't you?!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 25, 2019 06:14 PM (1wNUE)

491 489 What happened tonfree market capitalism ?

In 1964 it became illegal to discriminate against people because of sex, race, color, national origin and religion. There are now additional "protected classes" such as ADA and sexual orientation. Those are just a few of the myriad limitations to what we call free market capitalism. Now the left wants to be free to refuse to serve conservative businesses and conservative consumers at their places of business. You just haven't been paying any attention if you actually believe that we practice unfettered capitalism in this country.

Posted by: Lawrence L at June 25, 2019 06:36 PM (Uu7xZ)

492 It's almost like a tax that's not a tax, eh Chief Justice Roberts?

Posted by: mer at June 25, 2019 06:58 PM (or4l7)

493 I'm sympathetic to the "can't have it both ways" argument, and I certainly have nothing but disgust for the corporate cucks. But I have one small reservation. We may not actually want twitter to be a "wide open" forum for everything including all possible forms of harassment--I mean real harassment, not the fake kind--and stuff like holocaust denial and the like. I think these companies should be required to force people to post under their real names if they want to be a town square, and otherwise they need to be held responsible for the content they publish. The idea is that we need the name of someone who is responsible for the content. I'm fine with wild west if nobody is wearing a mask.

Posted by: midnight at June 25, 2019 07:09 PM (CA0E3)

494 Google and Facebook are both within CEP of a decent airstrike right around 101 and University...unfortunately, so are a few other businesses I use routinely. So we need something more...surgical.


The data centers are worldwide and fully redundant. Even if you level the company, what to do with the tech and the knowledge on how to reproduce it? That isn't just in the mind of Google employees. If someone knows it's possible it can and will be recreated.

Posted by: Time for Arrests at June 25, 2019 07:17 PM (6gm5l)

495 Are there companies who have cracked the secret of mind control I don't think so. I laugh when I contemplate it, to be honest.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 25, 2019 05:13 PM (le1m7)

How quickly we forget the Covington HS incident. Just even 10 years ago, that happens and no one cares. Today it causes a not insignificant amount of people to foam at the mouth and become enraged with murderous anger. I think we are splitting hairs on what to call it. Sure looks like a lot of people aren't in control of theirs minds or their emotions.

Posted by: Time for Arrests at June 25, 2019 07:21 PM (6gm5l)

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