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Bloomberg Opinion: Trump Doesn't Need to Strike Iran. His Sanctions Are Already Devastating It.
I tend to think we do have to hit Iran if they attack more ships, but here's the other perspective: Iran is cracking under brutal sanctions and wants to change the circumstances in order to wheedle its way out of the sanctions.
Why give them that change? They're the ones that need a change of storyline. We don't.What we're seeing unfold in the Persian Gulf is a confrontation between a U.S. president who doesn’t know when he's winning, and a Supreme Leader who doesn't know when he's losing. If Donald Trump changes his mind again and orders an attack on Iranian targets, he will have played into Ali Khamenei's hands. It's too early to exhale after Trump's decision to cancel a military strike last night. If he could order the jets scrambled once -- without giving Congress or American allies much time to consult and advise -- he can do so again. The next time, he may not call it off.Thoughts? Killing them softly > killing them loudly? As long as they're being killed, I guess I'm fine with it. Meanwhile, a short sad fat little man howls impotently.
But that would be to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Trump seems to have lost sight of the fact that his "maximum pressure" sanctions campaign against the Islamic Republic is working: Iran's economy is feeling great pain, and its isolation is deepening. For all of its proclamations of resistance and resilience, the regime in Tehran is plainly alarmed. In its panic, it has started to lash out in ways that hurt its own interests, and erode the sympathy it has enjoyed in international circles since Trump pulled the U.S. out of the nuclear deal last year... And Trump was, for once, playing his cards reasonably well. He stated his openness to negotiations and his desire to avoid war... This is exactly the right response to Iran's provocations: To brush them off and allow the regime to damage itself in the court of world opinion, even as it is continually weakened by sanctions... What should Trump do instead? Hold his nerve, keep his patience and let Iran dig itself into a deeper hole.
Dude, if you spent that kind of energy trying to repair with your wife, maybe you wouldn't be such a spazz all the time.
George Conway blasted President Trump and called for him to resign from office after he walked back a planned military strike against Iran in response to the downing of a U.S. surveillance drone. “Trump didn’t realize UNTIL TEN MINUTES BEFOREHAND that a planned airstrike would kill over a hundred people and would therefore be grossly disproportionate to the loss of a UAV?” Conway, lawyer and husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, tweeted Friday. “To say this is amateur hour would defame amateurs.”
"Resign. If you didn’t know this until it was almost too late, you’re even more of an idiot than people think you are," Conway tweeted in response to Trump. "Do the country and the world a favor. Go back to real estate, where the worst you can do is kill banks."
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:16 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:17 PM (I5SAg)
your words are cryptic and numinous.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:18 PM (PbpT7)
Actually, I think keep piling on more and more sanctions until they crumble like a wet biryani. The weaker they are, the less they can suppress another uprising.
And air drop lots of pew-pews with the retractable scary chainsaws...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:18 PM (zBaqJ)
the drone i'm meh on. The ships is what bothers me.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:18 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:18 PM (I5SAg)
We don't need yet another protracted, never-ending war in the Middle East. Ever. Again.
And since we've made it quite clear for decades that we're not willing to use all of the weapons in our arsenal to actually, you know, win wars, neither am I inclined to send more of Other Peoples' Kids(tm) off to die in yet another war we're not willing to do what it takes to win.
Posted by: DocJ at June 21, 2019 07:18 PM (yMKLy)
Posted by: the 2020 democrat candidates at June 21, 2019 07:18 PM (6e1eX)
your words are cryptic and numinous.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:18 PM (PbpT7
I saw Cryptic and Numinous open for Peaches and Herb at the Apollo in '80.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:19 PM (zBaqJ)
And Trump was, for once, playing his cards reasonably well.
This bullshit statement makes me want to throw out the whole article. Doesn't mean the article is wrong, but I'm definitely suspicious.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 21, 2019 07:19 PM (WJy0R)
yeah, I'd love that. drop huge amounts of guns, ammunition, bombs, and encrypted phones and radios.
Then just see what happens.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:19 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hate-Filled Lion of the Right at June 21, 2019 07:20 PM (xPJvm)
And since we've made it quite clear for decades that we're not willing to use all of the weapons in our arsenal to actually, you know, win wars, neither am I inclined to send more of Other Peoples' Kids(tm) off to die in yet another war we're not willing to do what it takes to win.
Posted by: DocJ
Seconded.
Posted by: David Hogg at June 21, 2019 07:20 PM (mOcZx)
Posted by: Iran at June 21, 2019 07:20 PM (DuZls)
Foreign Invaders raping American children: okay.
Imaginary rapes by the president and/or Court Justice: NOT okay!
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:20 PM (nZ1Sl)
/off creepy, punchable sock.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2019 07:20 PM (mOcZx)
But that would be to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Trump seems to have lost sight of the fact that his "maximum pressure" sanctions campaign against the Islamic Republic is working
So if, hypothetically, he were to do the thing that he didn't do, it would be a myopic mistake.
Talk about precrime.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 21, 2019 07:20 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:17 PM (I5SAg)
That drone was worth $125m.
The real question in my mind is whether the drone was over Iranian territory or not. The US military says no, but they always say that regardless of facts on the ground.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 07:20 PM (h2Bdk)
It would exacerbate it mightily.
Still, it's reasonable to simply watch them bleed out and literally expend no further effort.
But if the regime decides to make any more explodey moves, Trump ought to cram some missiles down their exhaust shaft.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (yL25O)
yeah, I'd love that. drop huge amounts of guns, ammunition, bombs, and encrypted phones and radios.
Then just see what happens.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:19 PM (PbpT7)
Seriously, if the sanctions can bite as hard as we think, internal unrest might actually stand a chance at toppling the regime.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (72spU)
Can't possibly imagine what could go wrong with that plan.
- The Guy Who Came-Up With Fast-And-Furious
Posted by: DocJ at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (yMKLy)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (I5SAg)
It is a beautiful thing to behold.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Chicago Vota at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (2ubCU)
Posted by: DXO at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: tom servo at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 21, 2019 07:22 PM (NWiLs)
The real question in my mind is whether the drone was over Iranian territory or not. The US military says no, but they always say that regardless of facts on the ground.
...
I don't think that a millitary acting hostilely to a piece of equipment that was positioned hostilely is a big deal, in the scheme of things.
I mean, Russians laze our pilots and the Chinese, haven't they been doing aggressive runs at our jets? It's something we usually just live with.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:22 PM (PbpT7)
Why invade? Ruin their country until they submit. They won't be able to develop a toilet, much less a nuke.
The Iranians should be very scared right now, but they are not because we don't have the collective will to smash them.
Posted by: freaked at June 21, 2019 07:22 PM (UdKB7)
But we will of course not know one thing about it. Because when that AA radar blows up it will be entirely coincidental and surprising.
You might even say "unexpectedly."
Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2019 07:22 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (72spU)
Dennis Leary theory of nuking Switzerland? "If we do that to a friend, imagine what we do to an enemy."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:22 PM (zBaqJ)
Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg isn't it?
Lord, spare us from fools.
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 07:22 PM (nuOac)
Posted by: Commander Cobra at June 21, 2019 07:22 PM (2A7Tj)
And I think if things go sideways and Iran *does* go crazy and escalates this into a hot war, God forbid, then PDT will take the gloves off the military and give them free reign to break and kill everything.
He is not stupid, he loves America, and he will do what it takes to eliminate the threat with minimum American lives lost.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2019 07:23 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Chicago Vota at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (2ubCU)
Mossad and Sayeret Matkal I imagine are perhaps in country or standing by to make heads literally explode. Scientists, generals, etc.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:23 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (72spU)
Trump would be like "Do that again and we'll kick the shit out of Mexico." That plan is so crazy it just might work.
Posted by: DR.WTF at June 21, 2019 07:23 PM (aS1PU)
LOL Get Fucked, Bloomberg "News"
Posted by: DocJ at June 21, 2019 07:24 PM (yMKLy)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 21, 2019 07:24 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2019 07:24 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Chicago Vota at June 21, 2019 07:24 PM (2ubCU)
Posted by: TexasDan at June 21, 2019 07:24 PM (yL25O)
well we've seen how anti-american world opinion is, just looking for the chance to side with American's enemies.
what if Trump denies them that pretext?
The sanctions are working because most of the bigger countries have joined the sanctions. This is why Iran is getting frisky. but if we lose that cooperation, it's a win for Iran.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:24 PM (PbpT7)
I heard a little bit of Mark Levin on the way home from work, and he sounded pretty bloodthirsty. I guess there's a reason why the neocon sabre-rattlers have been so popular for so long. Some people just love them some red meat. *sigh*
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2019 07:24 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Regular joe at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (6/uwW)
to use all of the weapons in our arsenal to actually, you know, win
wars, neither am I inclined to send more of Other Peoples' Kids(tm) off
to die in yet another war we're not willing to do what it takes to win.
I'd really like to see PDT surprise the world by abandoning that sort of "warfare" which really isn't. I and prolly everybody else would rather see a genuine shock and awe response that lays waste to our enemy for a good long time.
He'd have the perfect justification for keeping a conflict short and sweet to save American lives. Not to mention the lack of a divisive issue the Prog/Dems could talk about forever and fundraise off of. Go in, kick some serious ass, then go home. Drag whoever's left to the UN and tell them, "OK, here's what's going to happen..." then lay out the plans for their new government.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (HaL55)
I visited the region 10 years ago and an Iranian told me that as much as they hate the mullahs, an attack on them would galvanize their patriotism.
Think Argentina and the Falklands, although it was Argentina that started that war to detract from their crappy economy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (ivkO2)
Outstanding move, PDT!
And the Democrat foolishness of the past 48 hours shows them to deteriorate to a new level of stupid.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Chicago Vota at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (2ubCU)
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Went missing. This would blow their minds.
A sub went missing.
A mullah went missing.
A general went missing.
And the president says, man, don't ask me I was downtown looking for some tush.
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 07:26 PM (nuOac)
Posted by: ShainS -- There are but two Parties now: Traitors and Patriots at June 21, 2019 07:26 PM (HFge6)
Seriously, we are independent from the Gulf States on oil. The tankers were headed to Japan and Europe. China and India depend upon Gulf oil. Let them do the heavy lifting.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at June 21, 2019 07:26 PM (TkuZ0)
Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at June 21, 2019 07:26 PM (xmKbk)
And I think if things go sideways and Iran *does* go crazy and escalates this into a hot war, God forbid, then PDT will take the gloves off the military and give them free reign to break and kill everything.
He is not stupid, he loves America, and he will do what it takes to eliminate the threat with minimum American lives lost.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2019 07:23 PM (ufFY
I don't think the Iranians want a full blown war. They've taken a page out of North Korea's handbook - start some shit with plausible deniability until people give you things to entice you to stop. You know what's happening behind the scenes is they're offering to stop if we relax the sanctions.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 07:26 PM (h2Bdk)
- Miyamoto Musashi
Best line from a book full of good thoughts.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 07:26 PM (ITxGy)
well we've seen how anti-american world opinion is, just looking for the chance to side with American's enemies.
what if Trump denies them that pretext?
The sanctions are working because most of the bigger countries have joined the sanctions. This is why Iran is getting frisky. but if we lose that cooperation, it's a win for Iran.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:24 PM (PbpT7)
...
Fair point.
I guess Iran is pushing to see how much shipping damage the world is willing to take and hold the line on sanctions.
It seems like Trump has to balance keeping cooperation with sanctions and simultaneously scare Iran enough that shipping remains safe.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 21, 2019 07:27 PM (yL25O)
I visited the region 10 years ago and an Iranian told me that as much as they hate the mullahs, an attack on them would galvanize their patriotism.
Think Argentina and the Falklands, although it was Argentina that started that war to detract from their crappy economy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (zBaqJ)
And PDT heard that, too.
Let them rot from the inside.
Maybe an Iranian-style Fast and Furious?
The revolution will need tools.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 21, 2019 07:27 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: dartist at June 21, 2019 07:28 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (sy5kK)
No way, man. They're like a totes serious political party with really serious adults.
- Your Betters at the Bullwark
Posted by: DocJ at June 21, 2019 07:28 PM (yMKLy)
I visited the region 10 years ago and an Iranian told me that as much as they hate the mullahs, an attack on them would galvanize their patriotism.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (zBaqJ)
I believe that. It just sounds like human nature to me. We have to play this smart.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2019 07:28 PM (sdi6R)
France. Attacking Mexico would make us look like bullies.
No one gives two shits about France.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 07:28 PM (Vy4a0)
Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at June 21, 2019 07:26 PM (xmKbk)
This is something many get wrong, including Rush. The mullahs' are NOT rational actors. They see armageddon via nukes as an actual rational political endgame. !3th Imam, etc.
They cannot be allowed to get nukes because they will use them first. So, the pickle of regime change remains.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:28 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: DXO at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (nzKWW)
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at June 21, 2019 07:28 PM (rRxrm)
The strike would've completely changed the Dem debate into something with a little gravitas versus a shitshow with a bunch of clowns kissing AOC's ass.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:28 PM (nZ1Sl)
Send lawyers, guns and money to topple the mullahs.
Unlike Iraq, Persians are actually reasonably civilized. The Iranian exiles have money and would love to go home.
Maybe they'll switch back to Zoroastrianism.
Iran was our ally once, could happen.
No boots on the ground though.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:29 PM (cfSRQ)
Don't we have some bars of Irish Spring left over from the last time they tried to do that?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #Progressivism=Socialism at June 21, 2019 07:29 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 07:26 PM (h2Bdk)
They know the situation: stop developing nukes, and act like a civilized country, instead of like a bunch of fucking savages.
Then maybe we will deal.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2019 07:29 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 07:30 PM (gC2IV)
I actually believe that if Trump starts a war, he's going to be in it to win it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 07:30 PM (Vy4a0)
Moar popcorn.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2019 07:30 PM (axyOa)
the sanctions could cause enough unrest to spark a revolution, though. I don't know if military action of the kind the US would do could do that. I mean a really massive bombing campaign and decapitation effort might, but is that really in the cards?
What a strike would look like is sinking some Iranian ships, knocking out some radars, destroying some airfields. that kind of damage isn't going to unseat a government. It might just rally support.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:30 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 07:30 PM (DuZls)
I've heard $135 million, or $180 million, or whatever for the cost of those things. Well, you should know as well as I that the vehicle itself maybe costs $1 - $2 million, and the rest is the cost of the payoffs Northrup had to make to get the contract, with a nice profit margin thrown in.
It's a glorified RC controlled plane with a nice set of high efficiency turbofan engines (I think) but there's nothing novel about the powerplant. It's got a full time military satellite uplink but that's off the shelf tech now too. No defenses, no armaments, no life support, no pressurization, no eject systems, no stealth tech - this is a dune buggy of an aircraft, all stripped down. It's got some cameras and other sensory devices, but that's all off the shelf too, adapted from things like the Hawkeye.
So it is actually a pretty simple aircraft put together with off the shelf hardware. New package, but old goods. You guess how much that should cost, if you stripped out the quadruple layers of payoffs.
Posted by: tom servo at June 21, 2019 07:30 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at June 21, 2019 07:30 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (Dh1wo)
They know the situation: stop developing nukes, and act like a civilized country, instead of like a bunch of fucking savages.
Then maybe we will deal.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2019 07:29 PM (ufFY
See mat at 64. They will never stop the drive to get nukes. Ever.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:28 PM (zBaqJ)
I do not believe we can stop them from getting nukes short of an invasion or using nukes of our own. And the more aggressive our posture the more pressure there will be to finish their development.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (h2Bdk)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Burger Chef at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (RuIsu)
If Iran damages one American soul Trump will put upon them an unretaliatable visit.
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (nuOac)
They tried it with Russia before and during the election.
They tried it with North Korea just after the election.
They're trying it now with Iran. Just ask Lurch why he's been to Iran so often. What's he been organizing?
They're trying real hard to wag the dog. Desperate for the distraction.
The Iranian regime is all but dead and gone now anyway.
Posted by: Hereogar at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (eQ0LF)
And we need to do a helluva lot better job with our ECM. That shoot down was unacceptable.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (cknjq)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (Dh1wo)
And Obama ignored them, because if the mullahs were toppled, he couldn't buddy-up to them.
Also - I'm not convinced Trump was serious about attacking. The leaks were too clean. I think he's rattling everyone's cage, playing Mr. Chaos for effect.
Remember, he's going to meet with the ChiComs soon.
Making them think he's looney enough to cut off 20 percent of their oil supply in fit of rage might induce them to placate him in other areas.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:32 PM (cfSRQ)
Yeah, I'll bet Time magazine already had their new cover ready with President Trump standing over dead Iranian children.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:32 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: Burger Chef at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (RuIsu)
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We call the American sleeper cells "Democrats".
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 07:32 PM (DuZls)
Concur. I have gone from wanting Iran laid waste to heavy duty sanctions and a pin prick strike at their assets but not within their own borders just as a retaliatory measure for the drone.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:32 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Lance D. Boyle, M.D. - Dermatologist at June 21, 2019 07:32 PM (87EdW)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (72spU)
I really hope, before I die, to see that traitorous fuck standing up against a wall with a blindfold and a cigarette.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (Vy4a0)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (gC2IV)
if foreign_policy
return "go to war"
if domestic_policy
return "not the hill to die on"
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (mOcZx)
I really hope, before I die, to see that traitorous fuck standing up against a wall with a blindfold and a cigarette.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (Vy4a0)
Seconded.
Posted by: DocJ at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (yMKLy)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (zBaqJ)
I know, and I agree with your assessment.
But they damn sure know what our position is.
Defy it at their peril.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2019 07:34 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 07:34 PM (nuOac)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2019 07:34 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:28 PM (zBaqJ)
I do not believe we can stop them from getting nukes short of an invasion or using nukes of our own. And the more aggressive our posture the more pressure there will be to finish their development.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (h2Bdk)
Well, that's why the sanctions especially with their economy now in ruins must be kept up and increased until they do implode from within.
And if they ever do get a nuke and its confirmed, I expect Israel and even the Saudis will strike first.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:34 PM (zBaqJ)
Nah, his stuff had hotter women.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 07:34 PM (Vy4a0)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:34 PM (I5SAg)
Musical interludes by James Taylor.
Posted by: hepcat at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (5b+Sr)
and also, into my house, just to teach me a lesson!!!!
Posted by: ace, like butters, is totally out of control and needs a talking to at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Burger Chef at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (nZ1Sl)
The latest "bombshells" are the worst pile of crap ever assembled. Donnie TwoScoops was living out-loud in NYC for 40-years with entire news divisions covering him and none of this crap ever surfaced?
Posted by: DocJ at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (yMKLy)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2019 07:34 PM (BbGew)
Venereal disease is reportedly at almost pandemic levels there.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (zBaqJ)
What do you think those guys manning the AA radar station are thinking right now?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (gC2IV)
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That's another thing we can do - rattle their nerves by flying patrols that look like strikes.
Plus messing with their radar.
Remember what we did to North Korea before they got nicey-nice? Constant drills, constant testing of their air defenses. After a month of constant alerts, their people will be worn out.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (cfSRQ)
I wonder what that's like.
Posted by: Europe, and Also, America, and All of the West at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Regular joe at June 21, 2019 07:36 PM (6/uwW)
I think Trumps feint last night was all about showing he could hit them if he wanted, and was certainly thinking hard about it. And the Iranians acting up in such a stupid and transparent way is be4cause they are rapidly running out of options - a drought and a 10 YEAR recession is pushing them to the brink.
Look, when Iran cut funds to Hezbollah 40% they are pretty fucking desperate. They hate Israel. Hezbollah is supposed to be their army to invade Israel. They've spent decades building them up for the fight. To cut their payments to them in half....a lot of those idiots may have to go find real work soon.
Iran has 12% unemployment. -6% growth. 40% inflation.
Worse is the baby bust - Iran is producing far to few children to sustain itself. 1.66. below replacement rates. hell, freaking Syria is at 2.9. And the Iranian population is aging rapidly.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 21, 2019 07:36 PM (VPvxh)
Hanged from a lamppost works for me.
btw, did Madonna name one of her bastard sons Jesus?
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:36 PM (I5SAg)
spain's at about that level.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:36 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:21 PM (I5SAg)
One was registered with Marshall Islands.
They are a, for lack of a better word, protectorate of the US.
They have no military and rely on the US, conversely their citizens can join the US military and move to the US any time they want / can afford to. Not an official territory, but not wholely independent.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 21, 2019 07:37 PM (1g7ch)
What do you think those guys manning the AA radar station are thinking right now?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (gC2IV)
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That's another thing we can do - rattle their nerves by flying patrols that look like strikes.
Plus messing with their radar.
Remember what we did to North Korea before they got nicey-nice? Constant drills, constant testing of their air defenses. After a month of constant alerts, their people will be worn out.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (cfSRQ)
Drones that have a radar cross section of a mass formation of B-52s. Let them fire off their AAA assets.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:37 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 07:37 PM (PUmDY)
If Tea Leoni was preezy we would not have these problems.
Posted by: Burger Chef at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (RuIsu)
Tea Leoni is a One.
Isn't Davi Duchovny pounding that?
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 21, 2019 07:37 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (I5SAg)
They are a, for lack of a better word, protectorate of the US.
it was flagged there? Is this the one actually owned by Japan?
A ship's flagging isn't much more than a technical thing, is it?
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (XGabL)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (VPvxh)
We don't need to strike Iran. They just need to have an accident.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (wqE+m)
LOL Get Fucked, Bloomberg "News"
Posted by: DocJ at June 21, 2019 07:24 PM (yMKLy)
^^^^
Agreed.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (Uy5ux)
Posted by: dartist at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (K22Va)
Iran is just Somalia with tighter turbans.
Posted by: Regular joe at June 21, 2019 07:36 PM (6/uwW)
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No. Absolutely not.
Iran is an ancient, and cultured nation-state, with a long history of central rule and functional society. Up till 1979 it was an ally of Israel (!) and the US.
Look at the pictures before the Revolution and you see a rapidly developing pro-western nation.
Somalia is nothing but a collection of warring tribes who hate each other.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (cfSRQ)
Moar popcorn.
I like Bolton - he's like a pitbull that you have to keep on a strong leash. It really impresses other actors when they see your pitbull pulling and straining at the leash, You can get a lot of mileage out of telling people, "hey, you see my pitbull here, I gotta work hard to keep him under control, you better not aggravate him!"
And just because you've got a real mean pitbull, it doesn't mean you ever have to actually let him off the leash. Probably better if you never do.
Posted by: tom servo at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (I5SAg)
Thanks to fracking we don't even have to keep the shipping lanes in the gulf open. It is the Chinese who need to worry about that, and they have shown us their asses over and over again by supporting the Norks, screwing us in trade, and not getting on board to help stop Iran. Let them reap what they have sown. I don't see expending American lives to keep the Chinese economy running.
I imagine we could sink the whole Iranian Navy in a weekend if they get too uppity. Where they can cause trouble is in Israel, or with terror attacks on the west.
Posted by: Thatch at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (v5Cc/)
Posted by: YatYas at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (xN9Un)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (PbpT7)
Taxes, like Delaware corporations.
Posted by: DR.WTF at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (aS1PU)
We MUST honor what the ultimate global strategerist and statesman of our time -- Juan McCain -- would want us to do: bomb them! Bomb them back to the Stone Age!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (cfSRQ)
AKA The Democrat Party 2019...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 21, 2019 07:37 PM (1g7ch)
One thing that pisses me off about shipping is all the companies that flag their ships in places like Marshall Islands and Panama so they can take advantage of US dedication to open sea lanes without having to pay anything for it.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (h2Bdk)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (jXrK7)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 07:40 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 07:40 PM (ITxGy)
I'm a Thought Leader!
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 21, 2019 07:40 PM (PbpT7)
There is a good Trump documentary title.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (VPvxh)
MISHIN' IMPOSSIBLE, the prequel?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:40 PM (zBaqJ)
I really hope, before I die, to see that traitorous fuck standing up against a wall with a blindfold and a cigarette.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (Vy4a0)
Seconded.
Posted by: DocJ at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (yMKLy)
Thirded.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2019 07:40 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2019 07:40 PM (mOcZx)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (oVJmc) "
Rich Commie Democratium !
What do I win ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 07:41 PM (ITxGy)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 07:41 PM (JziUy)
And we need to do a helluva lot better job with our ECM. That shoot down was unacceptable.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 21, 2019 07:31 PM (cknjq)
That shootdown was a setup.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 07:41 PM (Uy5ux)
it was flagged there? Is this the one actually owned by Japan?
A ship's flagging isn't much more than a technical thing, is it?
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (PbpT7)
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Iran is playing games with this. If they wanted a shooting war, they could just fire on our warships. They constantly taunted them under Obama, with dozens of mock-attacks and near-collisions each month.
When Trump came in, they stopped. This was because he issued new ROE that said if they get too close, blast 'em to hell.
So if Iran wanted to go all-in, they could.
This is about making the US fire the first shot for world sympathy, and because John Kerry told them to make Trump shoot first.
Then the Dems can call him a warmonger. They can't do that if he avenges dead sailors.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:41 PM (cfSRQ)
No, it's our grand maritime tradition! Rum and sodomy and hash or something.
Posted by: Liberia at June 21, 2019 07:41 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (zBaqJ)
1, thank you, and thanks to the Horde and cobloggers, and 2, seriously, no one has to wait to 100 to go off topic in one of my threads.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: JEM at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (Izzlo)
The Dems can't resist the chance to criticize Trump for not acting - big tough guys they are.
Then, when Trump acts, what the fuck can they say? If he shows reluctance to go to war...if the Dems are demanding it....
Plus their base will hate them.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (VPvxh)
Thanks to fracking we don't even have to keep the shipping lanes in the gulf open.
Oil moves at market prices. Our oil doesn't stay cheap if worldwide price spikes. Not unless we keep ours to ourselves under artificial price controls.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (oVJmc)
Remember, he's going to meet with the ChiComs soon.
Making them think he's looney enough to cut off 20 percent of their oil supply in fit of rage might induce them to placate him in other areas.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd
I concur.
Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (wMHPW)
Posted by: Hands at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (786Ro)
I really hope, before I die, to see that traitorous fuck standing up against a wall with a blindfold and a cigarette.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (Vy4a0)
Seconded.
Posted by: DocJ at June 21, 2019 07:33 PM (yMKLy)
Thirded.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2019 07:40 PM (sdi6R) "
Fourthed ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (ITxGy)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:43 PM (nZ1Sl)
I still suspect that this recent Iran belligerence has been facilitated by the dems.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (jXrK7)
The pallets full of cash didn't hurt.
Fucking Obama.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2019 07:43 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:43 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2019 07:43 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Hands at June 21, 2019 07:43 PM (786Ro)
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Try watching bad boys again in glorious 80" HD and not jerk off. She was hot in 1996 on a 27" tube. Her character of a slutty dancer with dark hair and light eyes with those red lips and white teeth, like a prototype megan fox.
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 07:43 PM (JziUy)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2019 07:43 PM (BbGew)
If she married Bagger Vance she'd be Tea Bagger...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:43 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:44 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2019 07:44 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Lance D. Boyle, M.D. - Dermatologist at June 21, 2019 07:44 PM (87EdW)
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 21, 2019 07:36 PM (VPvxh)
****
And remember, a shitload of Iran's elites have quietly and efficiently moved their money to the West and had their kids educated in the West.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2019 07:44 PM (axyOa)
Okay, that's too bombastic. But really, you don't wring hands over 150 enemy dead. And let's be clear, they are enemy.
I agree, though, we don't NEED to go there at this point, and the Trump head-fake wasn't a bad thing.
Posted by: JEM at June 21, 2019 07:44 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 07:42 PM (ITxGy)
Fifth! Hic!
Posted by: Hills at June 21, 2019 07:44 PM (rRxrm)
That's not a good thing, but at least now we know it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 21, 2019 07:44 PM (fuK7c)
damn, well now I don't have any chance!!!!
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:44 PM (PbpT7)
Now that you're svelte from the Devil's Island diet, put on a white suit and panama hat and you're in like Flynn!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:45 PM (zBaqJ)
Would really not be surprised if they divorce.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2019 07:45 PM (RBOtF)
Posted by: DR.WTF at June 21, 2019 07:45 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg, now really Making It with a newsletter and a blog at June 21, 2019 07:45 PM (PbpT7)
Would really not be surprised if they divorce.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2019 07:45 PM (RBOtF)
He resembles Johnny Roast Beef from Goodfellas, only fatter and uglier.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:46 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2019 07:46 PM (mOcZx)
When Trump came in, they stopped. This was because he issued new ROE that said if they get too close, blast 'em to hell.
So if Iran wanted to go all-in, they could.
This is about making the US fire the first shot for world sympathy, and because John Kerry told them to make Trump shoot first.
Then the Dems can call him a warmonger. They can't do that if he avenges dead sailors.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:41 PM (cfSRQ) "
Setup. Exactly.
Lurch and TFG. Exactly.
Dealt with like a Galactic Overlord. Exactly.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 07:46 PM (ITxGy)
Posted by: Michael Puttre at June 21, 2019 07:47 PM (isGHK)
What I call the Ace Triangle of Success.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:47 PM (PbpT7)
You might even say "unexpectedly."
It wasn't a very good AA radar then was it.
Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2019 07:47 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 07:47 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2019 07:47 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: notsothoreau at June 21, 2019 07:47 PM (JKNZq)
This So much this. Sorry but, why is this our job again? We fucking solved the energy crises for us. You're welcome. You dumb fucks can fight over that black Arab goo - just leave us out.
I mean, Iran attacks an Japanese tanker bound for China in the Straight of Hormuz. You know what is missing from that sentence? The word "America". Will we help? sure. But first, Beg us. plead with us. Sign a fair trade deal and mean it. Then heck, well take out every Iranian ship, plane, nuke reactor, and missile silo.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at June 21, 2019 07:47 PM (VPvxh)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 07:47 PM (ITxGy)
** holds breath until Bloomberg Opinion gives the all clear **
Posted by: George Cuckway at June 21, 2019 07:48 PM (786Ro)
Iran is an ancient, and cultured nation-state, with a long history of central rule and functional society. Up till 1979 it was an ally of Israel (!) and the US.
Look at the pictures before the Revolution and you see a rapidly developing pro-western nation.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (cfSRQ)
That's very true. Iranians who are old enough to remember that must think, "WTF happened?"
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2019 07:48 PM (sdi6R)
I thought Tea was a carpet muncher
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2019 07:43 PM (BbGew)
Wiki says Tea was married to Duchovny from 97 to 14, with some rocky periods in between. She popped two kids out with him.
As to her potential coney-loving, please send pics!
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 21, 2019 07:48 PM (ufFY8)
One of my first girlfriends was an Iranian girl whose family had gotten out ahead of the mullah takeover. Middle-class, not anyone special.
She was...what's the word...talented. Fun. The word 'uninhibited' used to be part of the vernacular.
Posted by: JEM at June 21, 2019 07:48 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: wth at June 21, 2019 07:48 PM (v0R5T)
As much as I don't want yet another ME war. . .if we do, take the leash off the troops and destroy everything. Give the world a reminder of why messing with the US is a bad idea and losing proposition.
Posted by: MegaMagaMinion at June 21, 2019 07:48 PM (7seny)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:49 PM (nZ1Sl)
Can I have a fifth?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2019 07:49 PM (AZxMX)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 21, 2019 07:49 PM (N3JsI)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 21, 2019 07:49 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 07:50 PM (JziUy)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 07:47 PM (Dh1wo) "
That works too.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 07:50 PM (ITxGy)
Posted by: Hands at June 21, 2019 07:50 PM (786Ro)
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but I can fuckton guarantee that the democrat party WILL turn on any Iranian option the moment the feel like it.
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 07:50 PM (JziUy)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 07:50 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 07:50 PM (72spU)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (AZxMX)
I visited the region 10 years ago and an Iranian told me that as much as they hate the mullahs, an attack on them would galvanize their patriotism.
Think Argentina and the Falklands, although it was Argentina that started that war to detract from their crappy economy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:25 PM (zBaqJ)
Stupid is as stupid does. Give 'em some more, they seem to like it.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (Uy5ux)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (oVJmc)
Hit the oil export facilities and end the regime. Everyone in the world knows oil shipping and gas refinement are Iran's achilles.
It just takes someone with the balls to do it. A world wide temporary oil price shock is the price no one has been willing to pay. Yet.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (cknjq)
I could never stand Tea Leoni. She talks like she's suffocating, and has facial constipation like Pat Schroeder.
Posted by: Hands at June 21, 2019 07:50 PM (786Ro)
She talks?
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (ufFY8)
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I have a weird idea their muslims are a better class than the ones living in the UK, grooming that ass
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (JziUy)
Will we help? sure. But first, Beg us. plead with us. Sign a fair
trade deal and mean it. Then heck, well take out every Iranian ship,
plane, nuke reactor, and missile silo.
That sounds more like Trumps style. Always get a deal out of it.
Posted by: dartist at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (K22Va)
That's not a good thing, but at least now we know it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 21, 2019 07:44 PM (fuK7c)
We knew that already. Iran brought four Russian 3-300PMU2 systems online in 2017. That system has a rated ceiling of 27km, or almost 90k ft.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (h2Bdk)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:38 PM (PbpT7)
Taxes, like Delaware corporations.
Posted by: DR.WTF at June 21, 2019 07:39 PM (aS1PU)
Also gets the owner out of paying union rates to the crew if flagged in US and probably France, UK, and most other Western nations. But there is a Federal law, I believe, requiring that only US-flagged ships can transport cargo between US ports. Sort-of like the cabotage law for commercial air between US airports (no foreign airline can carry passengers who are ticketed to get on/off a flight between US airports).
Posted by: Gref at June 21, 2019 07:51 PM (AMIL/)
I never met her family, she was living in the dorms, which maybe contributed to her, uh, talent.
Bear in mind we're talking the early '80s here...
Posted by: JEM at June 21, 2019 07:52 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:52 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: DR.WTF at June 21, 2019 07:45 PM (aS1PU)
No, National Geographic has some issues. He's way past that.
Posted by: josephistan at June 21, 2019 07:52 PM (Izzlo)
A: So they can clean up the goats afterwards.
Posted by: wth at June 21, 2019 07:52 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 07:52 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today
Moar cushion for the pushin'
Posted by: Jeff Zucker at June 21, 2019 07:53 PM (mOcZx)
Posted by: WTP at June 21, 2019 07:53 PM (WQfDg)
Then the Dems can call him a warmonger. They can't do that if he avenges dead sailors.
Posted by: Brilliant, readable author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2019 07:41 PM (cfSRQ)
Well said.
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 07:53 PM (nuOac)
Helen Hunt is another one. Holy cats, she showed everything in that weirdo creepy movie she did where she's a sex surrogate.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:53 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2019 07:53 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 21, 2019 07:53 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:54 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Chouinard at June 21, 2019 07:54 PM (moFXO)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 07:41 PM (JziUy)
And ugly, stupid and very, very loud.
Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2019 07:54 PM (wMHPW)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 21, 2019 07:54 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 07:54 PM (Dh1wo)
Tea Leoni hasn't looked good since that awful movie she did with Nick Cage.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:52 PM (nZ1Sl)
*The Wall*
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 07:55 PM (Uy5ux)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:55 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:55 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: DR.WTF at June 21, 2019 07:45 PM (aS1PU)
No, National Geographic has some issues. He's way past that.
Yeah, but he doesn't have topless African natives.
Posted by: JEM at June 21, 2019 07:55 PM (8erNz)
This won't affect Europe. They're 100% renewables now.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2019 07:56 PM (j6fUz)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:46 PM (zBaqJ)
*************
Nailed it!
Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2019 07:56 PM (RBOtF)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2019 07:56 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2019 07:56 PM (sdi6R)
The ones with the Burke escorting them, or the ones that were rammed by the Burke trying to dodge them?
Posted by: JEM at June 21, 2019 07:56 PM (8erNz)
Tea Leoni hasn't looked good since that awful movie she did with Nick Cage.
1, that was the last time I saw her, so I'm fine with that.
2, I mean, once you accept that some of the porn stars you really like are now dead but that doesn't mean they can't still be hot, stuff like aging is a bit of a shrug.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:56 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Pedro at June 21, 2019 07:57 PM (DuZls)
If only Himmler had assassinated Hitler, the Third Reich would have been SWEET!
Posted by: jonah! at June 21, 2019 07:57 PM (ykYG2)
Bloomberg "News" is so left wing it makes CNBC look even handed. This morning Bloomberg had on Jimmy Drama who said that Trump could get impeached but hopes he doesn't. The people should vote him out of office. Then it had on Tom Steyer. Bloomberg is the NPR of financial stations.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 07:57 PM (6S482)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:55 PM (PbpT7)
Done lops over the belt?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:57 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (nZ1Sl)
This is both a global/regional war, and an internal political war within the US. The President is fighting on at least two fronts.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (AZxMX)
Please enjoy this original content from me, Jonah Goldberg, and be sure to check out my exciting new venture, a... newsletter.
I hold the Asnet Chair of Liberty at the corporate-fueled AEI!!!!
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (JziUy)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (I5SAg)
Bloomberg "News" is so left wing it makes CNBC look even handed. This morning Bloomberg had on Jimmy Drama who said that Trump could get impeached but hopes he doesn't. The people should vote him out of office. Then it had on Tom Steyer. Bloomberg is the NPR of financial stations.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 07:57 PM (6S482
But without the Peruvian pan flute bumper music
Posted by: josephistan at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (Izzlo)
I'm glad you added those words "she did" in there, because otherwise we're casting a really wide net.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (ykYG2)
Whatever his faults Trump does the counterpunch/retaliatory strike better than anyone.
In Trumputus We Trust.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (LBb0G)
Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (wMHPW)
Posted by: Old Blue at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (VNmG1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:46 PM (zBaqJ)
*************
Nailed it!
Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2019 07:56 PM (RBOtF)
I felt bad typing that as I actually know/knew Johnny Williams working on a film project with him years ago. Super nice guy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Swedish subtitles at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (mOcZx)
Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (Y5i3u)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (I5SAg)
Hugo Boss.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2019 08:00 PM (Y5i3u)
Trump didn't realize UNTIL TEN MINUTES BEFOREHAND that a planned
airstrike would kill over a hundred people and would therefore be
grossly disproportionate to the loss of a UAV? Conway, lawyer and
husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, tweeted Friday. To
say this is amateur hour would defame amateurs.
Former congressman and current mental defective Joe Walsh said the same thing on his show this afternoon. That and Trump lied about everything he said about Iran today. Everything out of Trump's mouth was a lie. That tard has hit Ralph Peters level of TDS
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 08:00 PM (6S482)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 07:50 PM (72spU)
I'm a MAN, with BIG HANDS!!!
Posted by: Chris Cuomo at June 21, 2019 08:00 PM (Uy5ux)
I thought it was okay. It was the Age of the Magic Negro. Another time, really.
But then, I really like like 90% of Nic Cage movies. The ones everyone else hates.
Drive Angry? IT"S GREAT!!!
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:00 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Swedish subtitles at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (mOcZx)
"So, I shot a moose..."
- - classic Woody Allen stand-up routine
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:00 PM (zBaqJ)
With the big, baggy genie pants. M.C. Himmler.
Remember his big hit, "Touch Nicht Dis?"
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2019 08:00 PM (oVJmc)
I hold the Asnet Chair of Liberty at the corporate-fueled AEI!!!!
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (PbpT7)
Weren't you on that panel discussion over whether s'mores were sandwiches?
Posted by: Hands at June 21, 2019 08:00 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2019 08:01 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 08:01 PM (nuOac)
With the big, baggy genie pants. M.C. Himmler.
Remember his big hit, "Touch Nicht Dis?"
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2019 08:00 PM (oVJmc)
LOL.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:01 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (JziUy)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg, Living His Best Life on Twitter at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: tom servo at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (gC2IV)
This is both a global/regional war, and an internal political war within the US. The President is fighting on at least two fronts.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (AZxMX) "
A good observation, very true.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (ITxGy)
Well, at least most of the time
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (AZxMX)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 07:58 PM (I5SAg)
Marc Jacobs.
Posted by: Some Jackass at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (rRxrm)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 08:03 PM (JziUy)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:03 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (gC2IV)
Barbara Stanwyk, Veronica Lake, Paulette Goddard.
*sigh*
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:03 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2019 08:03 PM (RBOtF)
You know you can say that about any actress that was ever in a movie with Nick Cage.
Posted by: tom servo at June 21, 2019 08:03 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 08:03 PM (JziUy)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 08:03 PM (JziUy)
And yet Joe Pantoliano kept his real name. Go figure.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (72spU)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (/D2qo)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 07:59 PM (PUmDY)
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That's one of my favorite Ben Stiller flicks.
Posted by: Pedro at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:02 PM (gC2IV)
And also The Adventures of Robin Hood. She really rocked that head covering thing I found out later isn't at all correct for the period.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (h2Bdk)
The real question in my mind is whether the drone was over Iranian
territory or not. The US military says no, but they always say that
regardless of facts on the ground.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 07:20 PM (h2Bdk)
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My question is how the fuck does a drone cost $125 million... and does it give the best head in the world.?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (pw+jk)
I predict Jimmy Carter will be mort this weekend.
Also gonna die: Henry Kissinger and actor Stuart Whitman.
Posted by: I See Dead People at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (/D2qo)
The sheiss will squirt out from the elastic bands...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (zBaqJ)
--------
Jodhpurs[/], cavalry pants with big pockets, courtesy of Britain's Indian Empire.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (I5SAg)
I predict Jimmy Carter will be mort this weekend.
Also gonna die: Henry Kissinger and actor Stuart Whitman.
Posted by: I See Dead People at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (nZ1Sl)
Stuart Whitman is still alive?!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (zBaqJ)
"so how come we came close to war with iran (i.e. striking back)? the neo-cons (ie bolton)"
b.s.
b.s.
b.s.
we came so close because of iranian provocations.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (xPl2J)
I don't think anyone really realizes how smart, wise and insightful Trump is. His image is actually going to end up on Mount Rushmore, of that I'm convinced.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (/Fmtj)
Remember the very old Flash Gordon series? Dale didn't wear a bra. That woman is probably dead today.
Posted by: I See Dead People at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: General Dynamics at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Stuart Margolin at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (I5SAg)
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Not that rare. It's just that quite a lot of Italians that emigrated were from Sicily, a Greek-settled island.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2019 08:07 PM (RBOtF)
Remember the very old Flash Gordon series? Dale didn't wear a bra. That woman is probably dead today.
Posted by: I See Dead People at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (nZ1Sl)
Her boobs live on in Nancy Palsi's 18-hour thingamajig.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:07 PM (zBaqJ)
5. Avengers Age of Ultron
4. Marvel's The Avengers
3. Avengers Endgame
2. Guardians of the Galaxy
1. Avengers Infinity War
That's my hot take and my unpopular opinion! If you disagree, fight me!!!!
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg, Living His Best Life on Twitter, Listing Childish Things In Numbered Sequence at June 21, 2019 08:07 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2019 08:07 PM (nZ1Sl)
I don't think anyone really realizes how smart, wise and insightful Trump is. His image is actually going to end up on Mount Rushmore, of that I'm convinced.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (/Fmtj) "
From your mouth to His ears !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 08:07 PM (ITxGy)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (I5SAg)
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Not that rare. It's just that quite a lot of Italians that emigrated were from Sicily, a Greek-settled island.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (DuZls)
Albino eggplant?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:07 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2019 08:07 PM (RBOtF)
And George Conway should be that aggressive in fighting the war on carbs. Because his fat ass never served nor does he have the background to even open his mouth for anything other than that chocolate cake he eats every day.
I believe Trump is wrong not to take some type of action. It looks weak, not benevolent. Those 150 assholes weren't civilians. They were IRGC who just shot down the drone and painted our P8 with about 30 personnel inside.
So is the tactic here to wait until one of our men is killed or injured? Is that Trumps "red line"?
Dumb.
The Iranians will be back because right now it's inconsequential to hit us. Guarantee they escalate. They do every time there is no response.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2019 08:07 PM (VkWRL)
Very unlikely Tehran takes Kerry's advice seriously, whatever it is. His value is a potential trouble-maker, but a marginal one.
And ffs, do people keep up with anything, or view anything in it's actual context? Iran is the central enemy of the entire eastern Arab Sunni world [apart from a weird mutually convenient but link-up with the odd Syrian regime, which is of declining utility], and of course Israel. It is diplomatically and financially isolated as never before, the Euros have complied like weak sissies with our sanctions offensive, even Moscow has sat on its hands.
An American strike on some missile sites would change none of that.
And everyone speaks of "incident" and "response" as if we're not already in an intense phase of a 4O-yr old conflict, involving lots of covert, financial, cyber, and proxy action [by both sides, but mostly ours]. The drone thing is one thing in a context of many ongoing things, all of them going our way.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 21, 2019 08:08 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Ben Had
If he can hold on to her. She should work as a can shaker in the paint department.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2019 08:08 PM (mOcZx)
he's a genius, and I'm quite certain that he does. I've heard him say
it, and I agree.
I don't think anyone really realizes how smart, wise and insightful
Trump is. His image is actually going to end up on Mount Rushmore, of
that I'm convinced.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (/Fmtj)
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If a group of demofascists and media (birm) call you not a genius is that double negative.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:08 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 08:08 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 08:08 PM (72spU)
I wonder what that's like.
So it'll be like The Villages with nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 21, 2019 08:08 PM (Clxcy)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (pw+jk)
Dude, that's nothing. Pocket change.
Posted by: dagny at June 21, 2019 08:08 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (I5SAg)
The dehydration is in the German economy, and Merkel's thinking Barky was a player.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (/D2qo)
HOWEVER, from the very first moment I could not stand either one of them and never ever thought of them as feminine.
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (nuOac)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (Clxcy)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (pw+jk)
It costs that much because the sensors are expensive. That's also why you see cost numbers that are all over the place.
Their is also a kind of circle of cost inflation - we spent a lot on this drone, therefor it must have awesome sensors. We spent a lot on the sensors, therefor the drone must be fancier. We spent even more on this fancier drone, so we must have even better sensors...
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (h2Bdk)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 21, 2019 08:08 PM (Clxcy) "
With less sex.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (ITxGy)
We know, already!
Posted by: John Effin' Kerry at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (NAs56)
Posted by: Chris M at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (6XZdO)
Posted by: Nick Cage, Thespian at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:05 PM (I5SAg)
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Not that rare. It's just that quite a lot of Italians that emigrated were from Sicily, a Greek-settled island.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:06 PM (DuZls)
No, it's not. Daniela Bianchi who was in the movie From Russia With Love is a lovely example of a blonde Italian
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (6S482)
- Is taco pastry?
On the level of "Then Who Was Pnone?"
well, I don't know if you've seen this, but the c**ks on Twitter like playing these games like asking "is a hot dog a sandwich?"
Over and over and over again. It's sad and weird and sad and pathetic.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:10 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:10 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:10 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:10 PM (gC2IV)
yeah, I'd love that. drop huge amounts of guns, ammunition, bombs, and encrypted phones and radios.
Then just see what happens.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 07:19 PM (PbpT7)
Instead of air drop, maybe use a flying stone head?
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at June 21, 2019 08:10 PM (di1hb)
The pinheads at Bloomberg can't comprehend that Trump played this out exactly as he planned, leaving the impression he can change his mind on a dime. And even if he did change his mind unexpectedly, so what?
Of course all of this just underscores that Trump can do NOTHING right with these people.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 21, 2019 08:10 PM (H8QX8)
HOWEVER, from the very first moment I could not stand either one of them and never ever thought of them as feminine.
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At the age of 4 I saw Hanna and Barbara.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:10 PM (DuZls)
Is he in Iran right now and that's another reason we pulled back?
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (q5Wqi)
Would you turn on your mobile radar set, broadcasting your location when US planes are on the way? Add a little rumor that among all those surface mount chips on the boards in your radar set is one that's given you away anyway and it might be a good time to run away, run away.
Hey Mulahs its a good time to start questioning the loyalty and dedication of your air defense crews Maybe you should threaten reprisals against their families. That will work out well. Think of how many smart, able guys will volunteer for that.
Posted by: FlimFlammed at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (xpKpV)
HOWEVER, from the very first moment I could not stand either one of them and never ever thought of them as feminine.
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (nuOac)
Stanwyck was pretty good in The Big Valley, though admittedly she was past her siren years.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (h2Bdk)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (JziUy)
Like it matters...goat fuckers all, but?
Posted by: dagny at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:04 PM (pw+jk)
It costs that much because the sensors are expensive. That's also why you see cost numbers that are all over the place.
Their is also a kind of circle of cost inflation - we spent a lot on
this drone, therefor it must have awesome sensors. We spent a lot on
the sensors, therefor the drone must be fancier. We spent even more on
this fancier drone, so we must have even better sensors...
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:09 PM (h2Bdk)
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I've worked on several NASA projects and that is TOTAL BULLSHIT. AND ABSOLUTE.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:12 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 21, 2019 08:12 PM (nZ1Sl)
Man, Tucker Does Not Like Bolton.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2019 08:07 PM (RBOtF)
Tucker liked illegal immigration 4 years ago. He censored Mikey Kaus because of it. Don't get me wrong I like his schtick, but he's a DC climber - never forget that.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 08:12 PM (Uy5ux)
People always think they are so smart.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 21, 2019 08:12 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:12 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2019 08:12 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Obamaboro, VT and Prood of it !!! at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (qM84C)
A Canoli is the original Twinkie.
Discuss.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg
Is corndog lollipop?
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (NoDP3)
Killing them softly > killing them loudly?
As long as they're being killed, I guess I'm fine with it.
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I'd like some evidence they're actually being killed rather than some happy talk that inaction is producing results.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:12 PM (gC2IV)
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Damn straight, we are the Shia!
Posted by: Iranian Rap Lords at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (DuZls)
As I just noted above, this incident is relatively minor, next to the broad array of things going on right now, which involve Iran losing. Iran is under tremendous pressure, they have no good options.
*"Calculate" is a bit of an exaggeration now - while the savviest adversary, by far, in the region, at this point Iran is fairly desperate, pushing any button it can find to try to relieve the pressure, so some of their moves, like this one, will be pretty dumb
Posted by: rhomboid at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (/D2qo)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (pw+jk)
Do Tell...
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (Uy5ux)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Maureen O'Hara was a ginger goddess and if a Harvey Weinstein-like figure tried to feed the ficus in front of her, she'd have ripped it off and made him eat it.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (mOcZx)
Wanna know what if feels like being painted by active radar when you're in a plane at 35k AGL?
Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (VkWRL)
Posted by: Ding Dong at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:10 PM (pw+jk)
I've never seen as many good looking women as in the mountains near the Italy/Austria border. On both sides.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (h2Bdk)
She made me feel funny in my no-no place when I saw that movie on the late show as a kid. Didn't know what it was, but did know that whatever it was, she would be a highly suitable target for it as soon as I figured out.
See also: Barbara Eden. Barbara Feldon. Elizabeth Montgomery. Dawn Wells. Funny how they all managed to be hotter than hell without being tattooed skanks, isn't it?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (Vy4a0)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (PbpT7)
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Can you watch Die Hard other than at Christmas?
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Marcus NT
Are you sure he hasn't?
Posted by: t-bird at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (QrTqV)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (72spU)
THIS!!! That channel is the biggest bunch of Euro fag, commie, shit heads on the face of the earth. Except for Taylor Riggs. The sole cutey on that station. She ought to find her way to Fox Business.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (6S482)
i can't offer proof, but I would note that reports that Iran is being demolished by these sanctions long precede this current imbroglio.
Not proof, I guess, except that other people have said the same thing.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: dagny at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (Dh1wo)
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They just used two U-s really close together.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (DuZls)
>>>Read somewhere this week that Iran is a dying country, there
population replacement is going down the drain because no one is having
babies. They will have the oldest as the biggest portion of the
population.
I wonder what that's like.
Posted by: Europe, and Also, America, and All of the West at June 21, 2019 07:35 PM (PbpT7)
You saw the article today? Hispanic births in the us are up almost 1.2 million. There's a real reason why they want amnesty - voters, and the numbers are there.
Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (Gim9y)
Doesn't have the same panache.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Is it pah-narrsh, or pan-arsh-AY?
etymology??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (nZ1Sl)
People always think they are so smart.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 21, 2019 08:12 PM (yQpMk)
The Dialectical Downside. Sometimes shit doesn't fit into an either-or polarization. But then they have to think hard and make less, so...
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (Uy5ux)
Posted by: Aud at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (uBywd)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (72spU)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (aKsyK)
No one ever made sure to take the Twinkies when leaving a crime scene.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (Vy4a0)
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 08:16 PM (nuOac)
DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE DIE HARD IS A CHRISTMAS MOVIE IS HOT DOG SANDWICH?
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:16 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: dartist at June 21, 2019 08:16 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 08:16 PM (6S482)
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2019 08:16 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (pw+jk)
Do Tell...
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (Uy5ux)
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The Shuttle TSS system. The ISS rotating solar panel array assemblies. The ISS Shock absorbing systems...
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:16 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 08:12 PM (Uy5ux)
Tucker is all over the place from an ideological perspective. He doesn't seem to have much in the way of closely held principles.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:16 PM (h2Bdk)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 08:17 PM (Vy4a0)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:17 PM (I5SAg)
"Trump seems to have lost sight of the fact that his 'maximum pressure' sanctions campaign against the Islamic Republic is working..."
"And Trump was, for once, playing his cards reasonably well."
Bloomberg. Straight as an arrow. Not a smidgen of bias. Nosiree.
Yeah, it's an opinion piece. It's also the bleatings of someone who thinks he knows more than Trump. Let the imbecility continue and enjoy even more Trump.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 21, 2019 08:17 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 21, 2019 08:17 PM (Pg+x7)
The Iranian people are not happy with their government right now for domestic reasons. The military is not happy with their government right now because of domestic AND military reasons. They feel helpless. And, when the people fire up another of those massive countrywide protests (which can and has happened at the drop of a hat) the Mullahs need the military to keep their heads from decorating a spike in downtown Tehran. So, they let them off the leash to feel a little less impotent. That's a dangerous tightrope to walk....but the fact that they are doing so suggests the common citizenry is on the edge again. Maybe a nice big ass "Water RIghts" protest to start things off. If our CIA wasn't a bunch of political wranglers, they'd have a team of operatives over there right now stirring things up.
Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2019 08:17 PM (Z+MSa)
Posted by: Aud at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (uBywd)
Nobody could share a bed with Georgy Porgy. You'd need a bed the size of football field
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 08:17 PM (6S482)
Posted by: t-bird at June 21, 2019 08:18 PM (Z1eux)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 08:18 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2019 08:18 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: t-bird at June 21, 2019 08:18 PM (Z1eux)
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Shelf-life == half-life.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:18 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Is it pah-narrsh, or pan-arsh-AY?
etymology??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (nZ1Sl)
puh-nosh. Cyrano thought highly of it.
Posted by: Quint at June 21, 2019 08:19 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:10 PM (pw+jk)
I've never seen as many good looking women as in the mountains near the Italy/Austria border. On both sides.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (h2Bdk)
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Yep. The Nordics got around in the olde times and did some of the inseminating.. sometimes by force.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:19 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:16 PM (pw+jk) "
Let's not forget the Hubble mirror.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 08:19 PM (ITxGy)
You couldn't be more wrong and there are a whole lot of guys who were downrange that would tell you that.
They will continue to take bites until you dick punch them. I pray it doesn't happen but if past is prologue this is escalated again by them and someone gets killed.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2019 08:19 PM (VkWRL)
Posted by: Hands at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Chris M at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (6XZdO)
can't comment as I haven't followed him. But I would point out that I saw him at Derek Hunter's wedding, back in, I dunno, 2015 or 2016 well before Trump secured the nomination, when he was merely rising.
And he was almost entirely on the trump train and seemed to be taking the illegal immigration thing very, very seriously. He was also ranting about the Ruling Class -- "my class," he noted, "so I know it" -- leading this country into a pit.
And this was just a five minute conversation.
anyway, he didn't know me and didn't really have any reason to front.
I would say that his current position, while probably mutable, is honestly held.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (PbpT7)
Slovenia too.
Posted by: dartist at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: Quint at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (I5SAg)
Well, if you replace them fast enough, while the "native" workers are sleeping, it will be a fait accompli, non?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (AZxMX)
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (NoDP3)
*************
I'm still on the fence. Tucker despises him and Kristol, Levin likes Bolton despises Kristol.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (RBOtF)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM (Dh1wo)
Trump: "Well, I guess that about does it. I guess I need to go now. It's been real."
Is that the way Conway's fevered little mind sees things? He should probably lay off Biden's glue.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: tom servo at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM (V2Yro)
Slovenia too.
Posted by: dartist at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (K22Va)
Italian is an official language of Switzerland.
Posted by: Quint at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM (n13/j)
I see the MFM is going to run with that BS that broad is peddling that Trump assaulted her in a dressing room. Maybe they can spring the Creepy Pron Lawyer to represent her
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM (6S482)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:19 PM (pw+jk)
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Not just Nordic. It goes back to Rome and the Etruscans. You can find enough references to lighter hair in Roman writings.
People just know "Italian" from the Sicilians that mass migrated out of Italy. And they're Greek (near Turkish) descent.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM (DuZls)
doesn't seem to have much in the way of closely held principles."
If your principles are wrong, there's no virtue in being rigid in them.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM (4thlk)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (/D2qo)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM (nZ1Sl)
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But that can change.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (gC2IV)
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the problem many of the elite are finding out is that, sure you can bring in millions of unchecked immigrants and most people won't notice at first. until it's too late.
But, fuck, the original unwanted people are *still* there, demanding things like freedom of speech and shit.
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (JziUy)
Did you ever see that one where she was traumatized by trying on bikinis?
Man, I loved that one.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (Vy4a0)
Iran has no good escalation options.
And no magic tricks to change their isolation.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Hands at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Soothsayer'c at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:20 PM (PbpT7)
Oh, I'm not accusing him of being dishonest. It's just that he seems to change his mind on some pretty basic things, like the proper role of government.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:22 PM (h2Bdk)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2019 08:23 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Hands at June 21, 2019 08:23 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: dagny at June 21, 2019 08:23 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (NoDP
Again, as I said previously in this thread - you don't get rid of your pitbull just because he scares other people. That's kinda the whole point of having him. You only get rid of him if you don't think you can control him, but I don't see that here.
Now Kelly and Mattis, they were pitbulls that wouldn't be controlled, which is why they had to go.
Posted by: tom servo at June 21, 2019 08:23 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2019 08:24 PM (/D2qo)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2019 08:24 PM (mOcZx)
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I record Tucker. I've watched enough of the New Tucker. He makes no secret that he's recently rethought a lot his positions with what is happening in Washington.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:24 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: tomorrow's trends today at June 21, 2019 08:25 PM (72spU)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 08:25 PM (nZ1Sl)
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Pizza? Open-faced sandwich or sex-toy??
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 08:21 PM
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Oh, If you only knew.
Posted by: Podesta Hut at June 21, 2019 08:25 PM (RVcmP)
So Bolton's job is to say bloodcurdling shit in public - and in "private" where he knows it's getting leaked - as long as he knows he's not the one who gives the actual orders.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2019 08:26 PM (ykYG2)
one of the hardest parts to make out in the Camelot song is the line "quite indefatigable."
Because they deliberately mispronounce these words to force rhymes. They sing, we're tough and strong and able, quite in-de-fa-tig-i-able" to rhyme with able.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:26 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 08:25 PM (nZ1Sl)
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But The Paolo has perfected it!
Posted by: The Paolo at June 21, 2019 08:26 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:26 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:27 PM (PbpT7)
Doesn't have the same panache.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:14 PM (gC2IV)
Pete Buttplug '20: Confiscate the Gun, Eat the Twink
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2019 08:27 PM (zBaqJ)
Insurance purposes. All the others cost $10,000 each.
Posted by: t-bird at June 21, 2019 08:27 PM (C78No)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 21, 2019 08:28 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 08:28 PM (JziUy)
secret that he's recently rethought a lot his positions with what is
happening in Washington."
That's what normal people do. And by normal I mean everyone outside of the media and politics.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 21, 2019 08:28 PM (4thlk)
Posted by: Aud at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (uBywd)
Nobody could share a bed with Georgy Porgy. You'd need a bed the size of football field
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 08:17 PM (6S482)
When Thanos snapped his fingers, he just lost weight.
Posted by: josephistan at June 21, 2019 08:28 PM (Izzlo)
They got conquered and brutalised by Islam; and then when the Muslim tyrants who happened to be brutalising them at the time got murdered, they raised those tyrants to near-Messiah level.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2019 08:28 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:27 PM (PbpT7)
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And I thought the last two syllables were pronounced in time more like "gable".
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:28 PM (DuZls)
Insurance purposes. All the others cost $10,000 each.
Posted by: t-bird at June 21, 2019 08:27 PM (C78No)
Sure, but if it's totaled they only pay out $3000.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:28 PM (h2Bdk)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2019 08:29 PM (ykYG2)
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Not true. I saw a bunch of Air Force guys buying a shit ton of them this morning at Walmart.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:29 PM (gC2IV)
one of the hardest parts to make out in the Camelot song is the line "quite indefatigable."
Because they deliberately mispronounce these words to force rhymes. They sing, we're tough and strong and able, quite in-de-fa-tig-i-able" to rhyme with able. "
And of course there's this verse:
We're knights of the round table
Our shows are formidable
But many times we're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable
Posted by: tom servo at June 21, 2019 08:30 PM (V2Yro)
yeah you're probably right.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:30 PM (PbpT7)
secret that he's recently rethought a lot his positions with what is
happening in Washington."
Yeah, I've changed too. It's called perspective.
Posted by: dagny at June 21, 2019 08:30 PM (nRWPy)
Probably go with u2.
Posted by: DXO at June 21, 2019 08:30 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2019 08:30 PM (/D2qo)
Our shows are formidable
But many times we're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable
yeah that's great. I only found out the words this year or last. And then I had a new laugh.
Posted by: ace at June 21, 2019 08:30 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 08:30 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 08:31 PM (Vy4a0)
Posted by: Quint at June 21, 2019 08:32 PM (n13/j)
As someone above said - he's the pit bull on a leash.
Posted by: Frosty at June 21, 2019 08:32 PM (nuOac)
Posted by: lowandslow at June 21, 2019 08:28 PM (4thlk)
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Yeah, if you listen to his frequent questions: why does no one care about the "opioid crisis", for example, you can see what's driving him.
He's reconsidering the neglect of our erstwhile "public servants" and "representatives" while they make message warfare with each other. And how various stripes of the American people end up underrepresented. He's rather populist now.
I would never call myself a "nationalist", especially not as a Madisonian, as Madison really eschewed the word "nation" applied to this country.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:32 PM (DuZls)
*************
So how many goatf*ckers is one UAV worth, then?
Is there a chart somewhere?
Posted by: UAV Kill Ratio Local Union 432 at June 21, 2019 08:32 PM (dob0X)
you're saying I ENTERTAIN you? What are you, an alt-right NAZI?
Posted by: Cathy Young, decrepit SJW harpy and Bulwark regular at June 21, 2019 08:32 PM (PbpT7)
Gotta have different points of view when analyzing policy. Groupthink would be worse. And, to Trump most specifically, he's been in this situation of competing POVs for thousands of times. It's what he does.
He's the chief and needs all opinions, "good" or "bad". So far he's done a fine job picking wheat from chaff. And Bolton is a valuable resource. He's not commandeering the situation, just advocating for his position. But the decision will be Trump's and Trump knows it.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 21, 2019 08:32 PM (6eEQ+)
Let's not forget the Hubble mirror.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 21, 2019 08:19 PM (ITxGy)
I've always wondered about that. Hubble's mirror was made by Perkin-Elmer, the same company that made the mirrors for our most highly-classified spy satellites.
Yet only the Hubble mirror was flawed (as far as we know). Funny, that. Almost like someone was trying to conceal our true capabilities.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2019 08:32 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 21, 2019 08:33 PM (nZ1Sl)
Posted by: Keto not Beto at June 21, 2019 08:33 PM (JziUy)
According to Wikipedia, she managed to get twenty collections of that shite published, so someone must've liked it.
But that's not the weirdest, by far. Somewhere out there there must've been people who read Apartment 3-G, Judge Parker, and Rex Morgan, MD.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 08:33 PM (Vy4a0)
Had to ask my dad about that one back in the day. Da fuq is a pram? Well, not like that. I was a wee lad at the time and valued my life.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:33 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: Aud at June 21, 2019 08:15 PM (uBywd)
Nobody could share a bed with Georgy Porgy. You'd need a bed the size of football field
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2019 08:17 PM (6S482)
Is sending Bono better or worse than sending James Taylor?
Posted by: josephistan at June 21, 2019 08:34 PM (Izzlo)
Tacos are folded savory pancakes.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2019 08:31 PM (Vy4a0)
All great cuisines have fajitas.
Peking Duck is Chinese fajitas. Schwarma is Middle Eastern fajitas. Ok, not all cuisines but it puts you up a notch in my book.
Posted by: Quint at June 21, 2019 08:34 PM (n13/j)
https://twitter.com/41Strange/status/
1142217702695505920
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2019 08:34 PM (Dh1wo)
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I'm thinking coastal urban chicks, I can't imagine what kept that strip alive otherwise.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:34 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: Yip at June 21, 2019 08:34 PM (8cUgT)
i liked the scene where the fbi guy starts peaking on acid at the dinner table.
Posted by: trapper's girl at June 21, 2019 08:34 PM (BQJef)
Had to ask my dad about that one back in the day. Da fuq is a pram? Well, not like that. I was a wee lad at the time and valued my life.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2019 08:33 PM (gC2IV)
Did you know "pram" is short for "perambulator"? No wonder they call it a pram.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 21, 2019 08:35 PM (h2Bdk)
Peking Duck is Chinese fajitas. Schwarma is Middle Eastern fajitas. Ok, not all cuisines but it puts you up a notch in my book.
Posted by: Quint at June 21, 2019 08:34 PM (n13/j)
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Beef Wellington for the Brits?
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:36 PM (DuZls)
or not enough?
Posted by: James OBrien MD at June 21, 2019 08:37 PM (GL84W)
Madisonian, as Madison really eschewed the word "nation" applied to this
country."
I think it's less about reflecting on ideology and more about gaining wisdom with age. I'm about the same age as Tucker and the one thing I've become to realize over the last ten or so years is just how stupid and incompetent our government leadership is. All of them, I don't look at the CIA or the State Dept. or the Pentagon and see a fine running machine, I see these agencies being run by people that lack the wisdom and brains to run a Lemonade stand. Our elected leadership is worse.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 21, 2019 08:39 PM (4thlk)
Forget about pallets of cash and all the other bullshit.
This exact situation.
I bet there is very little daylight. .
Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2019 08:41 PM (VkWRL)
or not enough?
Posted by: James OBrien MD at June 21, 2019 08:37 PM (GL84W)
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Egg Stork : let me tell you a little story. A story about a little fat kid who everybody made fun of, and nobody liked and he had a twin brother, and everybody said he never looked like his twin brother, but he wanted to...
Ack Ack Raymond : Egg, were you that little boy?
Egg Stork : No! No! But I used to beat the shit out him! "Why are you so fat? Why are so ugly?" Aaagghh!
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2019 08:41 PM (DuZls)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 08:41 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2019 08:42 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at June 21, 2019 08:42 PM (NoDP3)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 08:44 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 08:45 PM (PUmDY)
He was a Peking Duck.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2019 08:47 PM (mOcZx)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 08:47 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2019 08:52 PM (mOcZx)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2019 08:52 PM (PUmDY)
No marriage could survive that if it were real.
I seriously hope she is getting some dick on the side.
Posted by: James OBrien at June 21, 2019 08:59 PM (GL84W)
But punch incredibly hard, and let the bad guys know that they screw around at their great personal risk.
I remember what turns out to be called Operation Praying Mantis. Iran elected to screw around, and the Navy sent a message that to do so earned a free, all expenses paid trip to the bottom of the Persian Gulf. Just a little effort shut up a lot of people.
If we learned anything from Pearl Harbor (We haven't; look at the amount of isolationists we have and people who would much rather have the federal government bribe people than provide for the common defense), we should nip things in the bud before they fester. Either you burn a little blood and treasure (a favorite phrase of the isolationists and appeasers) now or a whole hell of a lot more later.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 21, 2019 09:01 PM (mEn6y)
We know it kills Bloomberg Opinion to write anything positive about Trump, even when he makes the apparent "right" call.We also know the Iranian economy is imploding, they desperately need money and most likely would try to extort China because they have the most to lose from interruptions in oil/energy shipments via the Straights of Hormuz.Either way, advantage Trump.
Posted by: standfast24 at June 21, 2019 09:04 PM (+9QGm)
Posted by: nuke them from orbit at June 21, 2019 09:05 PM (1XtI9)
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 21, 2019 09:09 PM (3ufaJ)
I've worked on several NASA projects and that is TOTAL BULLSHIT. AND ABSOLUTE.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:11 PM (pw+jk)
Do Tell...
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at June 21, 2019 08:13 PM (Uy5ux)
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The Shuttle TSS system. The ISS rotating solar panel array assemblies. The ISS Shock absorbing systems...
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 21, 2019 08:16 PM (pw+jk)
======You guys are overlooking something important about the cost: Research Development (RD). You're correct that the actual cost of the hardware is WAY below 123 million, but it took a lot of man hours to figure out what the hardware should be.
In regular industry, once the RD is done, you build a bunch of units spreading the RD across them. Since very few drone, each has a heavy RD cost.I work in Aerospace. Also there is a fair amount of graft.
Posted by: S.C.U.M. (So-Called-Unbias-Media) Hunter at June 21, 2019 09:32 PM (4LbHt)
Posted by: Dion at June 21, 2019 10:01 PM (1rRtN)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 21, 2019 10:03 PM (SsrFm)
If force is used it must be used in such a manner that Tehran doesn't doubt its Gods have abandoned them and hell is opening to greet them. Nothing less will end this regime. I for one have been pateitn for over forty years. That's more than enough patience for these crazies.
As my mom used to say when a snake threatens your children, kill it dead.
Posted by: I am not corey Booker at June 21, 2019 10:03 PM (nRj4F)
American military army equipment under the shame excuse that we were in such an extreme need to leave urgently. Demorats and Obama own whatever now comes in the way of trouble from that region, North Korea too.
Posted by: ron n. at June 22, 2019 01:27 AM (om5HK)
Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Witch at June 22, 2019 02:58 AM (xZjSg)
The revolution in the 1970s showed that there are two Irans: the rural, conservative, religious Iran, and over that, an urban class of educated, westernized Iranians. Rather like what's happened in this country, only far more exaggerated. The urban class should be our allies against the regime, but launching a war against Iran would unite them with the regime against us. We need to be smarter than that.
However, the problem with sanctions is that the scarcities they create re-enforce a regime's power over the population. That's been the case in Cuba, and it was clearly demonstrated in Saddam's Iraq. Sanctions need to be devised so that maximum pain is felt by individuals who are allied with the regime, such as the heads of the Republican Guards. Here, our European "allies" being a serious obstacle to regime change.
As for Conway's vaporing: clearly, he believes the caricature of Trump as an out-of-control warmonger. As Bugs Bunny once said, "What a maroon!" Trump's ten-minute remark clearly was intended for the mullahs, to give them pause when they next feel trigger-happy.
Posted by: Brown Line at June 22, 2019 09:56 AM (S6ArX)
Posted by: obsidian at June 22, 2019 11:17 AM (7+yqP)
Posted by: Dr Kevorkian at June 22, 2019 12:15 PM (S6nOH)
Regime change can't be imposed from the outside. Hitler; Mussolini' Imperial Japan?
What are you a Harvard graduate with honors in history?
You don't understand the revolution in Iran nor the overthrow of Saddam as your post demonstrates the lack of knowledge and insight into both cultures. Iran's revolution was an urban one skippy, I was there. The urban population wasn't and isn't westernized, educated or more tolerant. But you know better.
Tell us skippy of how many years you served overseas, of your vast military and diplomatic experience. You can always tell a faculty lounge troll from his ignorance and arrogance.
I love your analysis of sanctions. You have a backbone made out of silly putty and have apparently experienced the depth of poverty and extreme want resulting from the lack of 2% milk today. Sanctions will break a nation if they are harsh enough and that nation has limited resources. Iran's centralized government made the typical central planning decisions that created the same sort of prosperity the world sees today in Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, and North Korea, as well as all the other socialist paradises round the world.
But keep posting. You are a walking advertisement for the failure of the education system. Have you considered running for Bernie's senate seat. You'd be the perfect replacement.
Posted by: I am not corey Booker at June 22, 2019 01:03 PM (nRj4F)
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