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Gun Thread: Some Assembly Required [Weasel]
Gun Thread Pop Quiz: Identify this gun!
From a very young age I was fascinated by taking things apart to see how they worked. The only problem being that I wasn't particularly good at putting things back together again. I vividly recall the sheer delight my father expressed when he came home from work one day to discover his little scamp of a son had taken apart a rather expensive clock. What a precocious and inquisitive rascal I was!
This trait followed me into my adult years and has been vigorously displayed with my interest in firearms. Simply cleaning a weapon requires some level of disassembly and I was always curious about all the little pins and springs and other teensy parts that make up the innards of a gun. Frequently my re-assembly attempts ended with leftover parts on the bench, necessitating a frantic YouTube search until a helpful video help was found, or worse, taking the gun and a baggie of loose parts to my gunsmith. Oh the shame.
Two things eventually happened; my collection of Sig Sauer semi-automatic pistols grew large enough, and I got tired of paying for simple adjustments, repairs and parts replacement. It was at this point that I decided to take Sig's Armorer's Course so I packed a bag, pointed the car north, and headed for Epping, New Hampshire. The Sig Sauer Academy sits on 140 acres a little over an hour north of Boston, MA. The facilities include an assortment of indoor/outdoor ranges, classrooms, tactical training areas and a pro shop. It's a really impressive setup, and I'd been to the Epping facility before taking rifle courses so I was familiar with the layout. Signing up was simple and done online including uploading various credentials required for the specific courses. The armorer's courses are conviently held in locations all over the country, last two days, and cost $430. Upon sucessful completion, students are awarded a certificate good for three years which allows them to fully service the pistols while maintaining the factory warranty. Recertification is a one day refresher class for $260. The P226 in the picture above is the gun I took apart and put back together about 100 times over the course of two days. You start by working on the smaller sub-assemblies and eventually work up to complete disassembly and re-assembly of the pistol. I thought I'd be cute and organize the parts by group to make it easier, but I guess the instructor had seen this before and helpfully mixed everything up into a big pile for me. Eventually, it was fairly straightforward to take a pile of parts and turn it into a working firearm. The course is quite a bit of fun, but it's also no joke. You must demonstrate proficiency working on the weapons to the instructor and pass a written test. I've found the experience gained even helps in troubleshooting problems with other brands of firearms. I have to say I'm happy to have taken the course but I haven't felt compelled to keep the certification current. I'm also not sure I'd pay any more than the the $430 they're charging. The quality of instruction is very good but at that price I don't think it's a bargain for the casual shooter. Not a waste, but not a bargain. What do you think? Would this be the sort of training you would be interested in at that price point?Well now let's see what else there is to talk about: I'm seeing more and more ads for laser target trainers of one sort or another. Here's one reviewed by Shooting Sports USA, the PET II Reactive Target Laser, and they seem to be getting both smaller and more functional. Anyone tried one of these? We featured several models some time ago and they didn't seem to generate much comment.
Another week and another round of poo flinging at the NRA This time, Col. Allen West, a member of the NRA board, speaks out against both Wayne LaPierre and the newly-elected President, Calolyn Meadows. The whole mess is turning into a circular firing squad, and somebody needs to get control of this shit and fast. Unless the organization wants to continue to self destruct to the delight of the left, some sort of review committee needs to be formed to clean house. I've been a life member for many years, but otherwise I wouldn't send them another dime.
I'm a contrarian and for a long time I resisted trying Black Rifle Coffee because everyone else was jumping on board and singing its praises. Well, I finally gave in and holy cow is it ever good! I mean really very damn good. Really very extra damn good! So don't be a retard and give them a try sooner rather than later. I like the dark roast Blackbeard's Delight, but there are a bunch of different roasts to choose from, and a portion of proceeds benefit military personnel assistance organizations, law enforcement and first responders. Win-Win.
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Emmie pops some caps in cardboard!
I don't know about the rest of you, but from now on, I'm addressing her as Ms. Emmie! She mentioned trying a number of different revolvers and pistols in various calibers and liking a smaller .38 Special revolver the best, because she is an 'ette of refinement and high class. Very nicely done!
That's it for this week - have you been to the range?
Comments
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Hat trick
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:01 PM (BbGew)
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Howdy Skip!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:03 PM (MVjcR)
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Sponge!
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 07:03 PM (MasTK)
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Funny thing in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly Tuco takes different makes of pistols apart and puts one together from the parts.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:03 PM (BbGew)
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If you haven't tried it yet, Black Rifle's Freedom Blend is to die for!
Posted by: Ninjafluff at May 19, 2019 07:03 PM (yBZ7A)
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Yeah, I took my dad's ancient Argus C4 camera apart and *almost* got it back together again.
Upside: he bought me a Mamiya Sekor 500DTL SLR that I treasured for years. (We're talking late 1960's here.)
Upside: he bought me a Mamiya Sekor 500DTL SLR that I treasured for years. (We're talking late 1960's here.)
Posted by: Dan at May 19, 2019 07:04 PM (+NG5U)
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Horde dutifully called btw
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:04 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:04 PM (xJa6I)
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The Nurse put 5 rounds into a 1" group at 7 yards with a Glock 19.
Some of these 'ettes are fucking deadly.
Some of these 'ettes are fucking deadly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:05 PM (xJa6I)
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Sig P226?
Posted by: Grendel at May 19, 2019 07:05 PM (uMblL)
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:05 PM (t+qrx)
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The gun in the photo is clearly a fully hardened semi-fully automatic Glock M1911 Ghost Gun! We must ban it now for the Children!!1!
Posted by: Hysterical Gun Grabbers Everywhere at May 19, 2019 07:05 PM (tVQUs)
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That is nice shooting Emmie
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:05 PM (BbGew)
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I'm not good with small, fiddly work. Never have been and now that my eyes are old, it's gotten worse.
Hell, I spent 20 minutes trying to put a 1911 back together without scratching it. Fuck....
Makes me really like Glocks and the XD
Hell, I spent 20 minutes trying to put a 1911 back together without scratching it. Fuck....
Makes me really like Glocks and the XD
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:06 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 07:06 PM (MasTK)
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:06 PM (MVjcR)
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If I did own multiple hand guns of various calibers and makes, I'd probably check the YouTube videos of how to break them down.
Same place I learned to castrate a llama.
Same place I learned to castrate a llama.
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 07:06 PM (Jj+59)
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First time out? Damn.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 07:06 PM (NWiLs)
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I have only experienced one malfunction as a consequence of a mis-assembled firearm. It was *mumble* decades ago, but I have never, ever, forgotten it. Remington Model 1100, for the record.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:07 PM (xSo9G)
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11 "Gun Thread Pop Quiz: Identify this gun!"
But you put the answer right in the text!
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:05 PM (t+qrx)
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Well look who I'm dealing with!
But you put the answer right in the text!
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:05 PM (t+qrx)
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Well look who I'm dealing with!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:08 PM (MVjcR)
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I've been to Epping. Took a pistol class. Enjoyed it. Got a 229 elite with a short reset trigger. Boating accident. Sad. Thinking about taking a beginner rifle class.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 19, 2019 07:08 PM (ZuGkg)
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Probably been linked here before, but here's an article, and clip, about the gun buying scene in the movie, The Highwaymen.
https://tinyurl.com/y3c553kp
https://tinyurl.com/y3c553kp
Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 07:08 PM (EfMCv)
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Same place I learned to castrate a llama.
Posted by: Jake from State Farm
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I understand that there is a traditional method for reindeer.
Posted by: Jake from State Farm
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I understand that there is a traditional method for reindeer.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:08 PM (xSo9G)
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Stripping and reassembling 1911s is a pain in the ass. Especially reassembling.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 07:08 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Lurker McLukface at May 19, 2019 07:09 PM (oHPUT)
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And what I learned about strikers is, remove them from the slide very carefully in a controlled environment.
The CZ P10C's striker has a bunch of parts to it, including very small springs. It shot out the back of the slide and distributed its parts all over the living room. Fortunately, we have a tile floor and amazingly I found every one.
I believe, in future, I'll disassemble beyond field stripping while holding the gun inside a large clear plastic bag.
The CZ P10C's striker has a bunch of parts to it, including very small springs. It shot out the back of the slide and distributed its parts all over the living room. Fortunately, we have a tile floor and amazingly I found every one.
I believe, in future, I'll disassemble beyond field stripping while holding the gun inside a large clear plastic bag.
Posted by: Dan at May 19, 2019 07:09 PM (+NG5U)
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If I did own multiple hand guns of various calibers and makes, I'd probably check the YouTube videos of how to break them down.
Same place I learned to castrate a llama.
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 07:06 PM
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Same place I learned how to turn off the stupid maintenance required dash warning on my Tacoma.
Same place I learned to castrate a llama.
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 07:06 PM
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Same place I learned how to turn off the stupid maintenance required dash warning on my Tacoma.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 07:09 PM (JUOKG)
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And before anyone brings up that tired old trope about the Ruger MkII being impossible to reassemble once you've detail-stripped it, it's trivial and you can do it blindfolded in about 45 seconds once you know how.
The trick is you must become the gun.
The trick is you must become the gun.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:09 PM (t+qrx)
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Somewhere in Virginia there is a John Deere tractor crying.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2019 07:09 PM (j0Zty)
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Gunzzzz!!!!
Yep, to the range on my RO duty day this week - only to be rained out for the 3rd time in 5 months. This is mortar-range from the Mexican border, where little/no rain for years is the norm. But I did manage to empty some brass with the new-to-me 1866 Uberti repro, @ 5O yds. Might be able to do the silhouette match with it in a few weeks.
Did shoot an action handgun match yesterday. 1911. Did fine, considering haven't shot it much recently [had planned to put 2OO rounds thru it on duty day, but rain. Action rifle match today cancelled - rain. Sad! Combo centerfire rifle and shotgun. M1 was quite excited to get some range time, but now will have to sit, bored, in the safe, for a while longer.
Yep, to the range on my RO duty day this week - only to be rained out for the 3rd time in 5 months. This is mortar-range from the Mexican border, where little/no rain for years is the norm. But I did manage to empty some brass with the new-to-me 1866 Uberti repro, @ 5O yds. Might be able to do the silhouette match with it in a few weeks.
Did shoot an action handgun match yesterday. 1911. Did fine, considering haven't shot it much recently [had planned to put 2OO rounds thru it on duty day, but rain. Action rifle match today cancelled - rain. Sad! Combo centerfire rifle and shotgun. M1 was quite excited to get some range time, but now will have to sit, bored, in the safe, for a while longer.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:10 PM (QDnY+)
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Somewhere in Virginia there is a John Deere tractor crying.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2019 07:09 PM (j0Zty)
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Thanks, BH. What really gets me is the price of hydraulic fluid!
Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2019 07:09 PM (j0Zty)
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Thanks, BH. What really gets me is the price of hydraulic fluid!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:10 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:11 PM (K1IUD)
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What if the gun is a Sig p226 but it identifies as a Steyr GB? Ever think about that? Guns can be Trans, sweaty.
Posted by: Gun Justice Warrior at May 19, 2019 07:12 PM (tVQUs)
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disassembling the Pig was fun, because it would go together wrong, and you'd never know it until you tried to operate it and it was a single shot weapon, among other issues.
and lets not EVEN start about disassembly and reassembly of Ma Deuce...
if you didn't do it enough to get the muscle memory, you needed the book every time.
and lets not EVEN start about disassembly and reassembly of Ma Deuce...
if you didn't do it enough to get the muscle memory, you needed the book every time.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 07:12 PM (MasTK)
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The trick is you must become the gun.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Ah. The Lee Strasberg school of gun assembly.
The trick is you must become the gun.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Ah. The Lee Strasberg school of gun assembly.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:13 PM (CDGwz)
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How did a CZ VZ50 .32 auto come to be for sale in Commiefornia with it's goldilocks register of "approved" gubs? Say what you will, we like mouse guns. What'ya say, pick it up while available, or pass?
Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 19, 2019 07:13 PM (b94nr)
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Anyway, on to the wall o' text range report.
Very skippable but added for posterity.
I got to the range last week after missing the week before for the MoMe. It felt very good to get back to killing paper.
I bought a used CZ P07 because Fuck You, Washington State. It's hammer fired with a decocker instead of striker fired, as most of you know. Gun shoots very tight groups. Very tight. Grip is a little thick. There are backstraps but getting them swapped out isn't midlessly easy. There's an extra spring or pin you have to control and the fucking instructions suggest to have a gunsmith do it. Which begs the question: Why include backstraps if the owner ISN'T suppsoed to swap them out???
Regardless, gun fired just fine and will be a nice addition to the sprawl of 9mm handguns I own. Finding extra mags and a holster for it is going to a be a bitch though.
The other reason for the range visit, apart from sanity maintenance, was to give the Nurse a chance to try some 9mm handguns to add to her collection. I brought a Glock 17 and a 19, both Gen 3.
Both guns worked well, though I was 'pushing' my rounds down until I got my shit together and went back to my Jeff Cooper 'stiff arm' modified Weaver stance. Then bullets went in a nice centered group. The Glock 17 just fucking works.
The Glock 19 worked even better though. Both the Nurse and I both managed good, tight groups with the G19. The Great Compromise comes through again. It's not my favorite pistol but...damn if it doesn't deliver. And it's easier to take down and assemble than a bloody 1911.
Great day at the range, 300 rounds went by far too fast.
Very skippable but added for posterity.
I got to the range last week after missing the week before for the MoMe. It felt very good to get back to killing paper.
I bought a used CZ P07 because Fuck You, Washington State. It's hammer fired with a decocker instead of striker fired, as most of you know. Gun shoots very tight groups. Very tight. Grip is a little thick. There are backstraps but getting them swapped out isn't midlessly easy. There's an extra spring or pin you have to control and the fucking instructions suggest to have a gunsmith do it. Which begs the question: Why include backstraps if the owner ISN'T suppsoed to swap them out???
Regardless, gun fired just fine and will be a nice addition to the sprawl of 9mm handguns I own. Finding extra mags and a holster for it is going to a be a bitch though.
The other reason for the range visit, apart from sanity maintenance, was to give the Nurse a chance to try some 9mm handguns to add to her collection. I brought a Glock 17 and a 19, both Gen 3.
Both guns worked well, though I was 'pushing' my rounds down until I got my shit together and went back to my Jeff Cooper 'stiff arm' modified Weaver stance. Then bullets went in a nice centered group. The Glock 17 just fucking works.
The Glock 19 worked even better though. Both the Nurse and I both managed good, tight groups with the G19. The Great Compromise comes through again. It's not my favorite pistol but...damn if it doesn't deliver. And it's easier to take down and assemble than a bloody 1911.
Great day at the range, 300 rounds went by far too fast.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:13 PM (xJa6I)
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and lets not EVEN start about disassembly and reassembly of Ma Deuce...
if you didn't do it enough to get the muscle memory, you needed the book every time.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 07:12 PM
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That cost me a shot at an Expert Infantry Badge back in the day.
if you didn't do it enough to get the muscle memory, you needed the book every time.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 07:12 PM
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That cost me a shot at an Expert Infantry Badge back in the day.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 07:13 PM (JUOKG)
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28 And before anyone brings up that tired old trope about the Ruger MkII being impossible to reassemble once you've detail-stripped it, it's trivial and you can do it blindfolded in about 45 seconds once you know how.
The trick is you must become the gun.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:09 PM (t+qrx)
There is nospoon gun...
The trick is you must become the gun.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:09 PM (t+qrx)
There is no
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 07:14 PM (NWiLs)
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Only annoying part of the 1911 I've found has been thumb safety - esp. removing it.
UToob video has been very useful, have probably used them when learning disassembly on every gun I have.
UToob video has been very useful, have probably used them when learning disassembly on every gun I have.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:14 PM (QDnY+)
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Which Presidential Candidate wants everyone who owns a gun to get a Federal Permit to own it....I heard something about it this am.
I'm sure the hood rats will be first in line to get one.
I'm sure the hood rats will be first in line to get one.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 07:14 PM (+0N+f)
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I vividly recall the sheer delight my father expressed when he came home from work one day to discover his little scamp of a son had taken apart a rather expensive clock. What a precocious and inquisitive rascal I was!
What a missed opportunity, because with all those clock pieces sitting in front of you, you were in the perfect position to invent the clock!
What a missed opportunity, because with all those clock pieces sitting in front of you, you were in the perfect position to invent the clock!
Posted by: Prez'nit Shitnozzle, Gifted Understander of Complexities and Nuances at May 19, 2019 07:14 PM (4knXT)
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Which Presidential Candidate wants everyone who owns a gun to get a Federal Permit to own it....I heard something about it this am.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 07:14 PM (+0N+f)
That would be me!
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 07:14 PM (+0N+f)
That would be me!
Posted by: Spartacus Booker at May 19, 2019 07:16 PM (tVQUs)
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willowed from last thread, because I took the time to check my spelling.
94 253 245. Roofies
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 05:46 PM (dyaak)
OT, but patriotic, so it still fits.
Waking up late and catching up with another fine Oregon Muse post, I happened upon his Twatter page, and the reference to the Korean Rooftop patriots of LA, 27 years ago this month.
Then, this post. Roofies. Like many Morons, it was a sign to me, that I need to share this, if nothing else than to let people know that patriotism is a very practical thing.
Oregon Muse's Twatter entry on the anniversary of the Rooftop Koreans.
https://tinyurl.com/y5f8u6re
and for those who are not near 29, but want a good recap of what happened, Kurt Schlicter over at Townhall.com has a reminder of what happened and why:
https://tinyurl.com/y4eja5gd
For me, it is a reminder of why we enjoy our grilling recipes, bourbons, and back yards.
Oh, and warming up for the Gub Thread.
willowed from last thread, because I took the time to check my spelling.
94 253 245. Roofies
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 05:46 PM (dyaak)
OT, but patriotic, so it still fits.
Waking up late and catching up with another fine Oregon Muse post, I happened upon his Twatter page, and the reference to the Korean Rooftop patriots of LA, 27 years ago this month.
Then, this post. Roofies. Like many Morons, it was a sign to me, that I need to share this, if nothing else than to let people know that patriotism is a very practical thing.
Oregon Muse's Twatter entry on the anniversary of the Rooftop Koreans.
https://tinyurl.com/y5f8u6re
and for those who are not near 29, but want a good recap of what happened, Kurt Schlicter over at Townhall.com has a reminder of what happened and why:
https://tinyurl.com/y4eja5gd
For me, it is a reminder of why we enjoy our grilling recipes, bourbons, and back yards.
Oh, and warming up for the Gub Thread.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 19, 2019 07:16 PM (sy5kK)
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adobe juan - probably PPT or C ampersand R? Anyway, you know the answer - buy it.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:16 PM (QDnY+)
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The trick is you must become the gun.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Ah. The Lee Strasberg school of gun assembly.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:13 PM (CDGwz)
Correction: I believe that was Master Po. Strasberg requires that you experience the motivations of the gun.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Ah. The Lee Strasberg school of gun assembly.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:13 PM (CDGwz)
Correction: I believe that was Master Po. Strasberg requires that you experience the motivations of the gun.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 07:16 PM (4knXT)
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What a missed opportunity, because with all those clock pieces sitting in front of you, you were in the perfect position to invent the clock!
Posted by: Prez'nit Shitnozzle
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Look, I'm really, really smart and stuff.
Posted by: Prez'nit Shitnozzle
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Look, I'm really, really smart and stuff.
Posted by: Ahmed, the clock boy at May 19, 2019 07:18 PM (CDGwz)
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I also checked for camel castration-- it's lacking, but I sang a few bars of llama castration and hummed the rest.
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 07:18 PM (Jj+59)
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"Home ... Home, on The Range ..."
Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at May 19, 2019 07:18 PM (wWUkD)
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380 Take a bucket of dead lizards and bury them ten feet down..come back in two million years and what do you find if anything? Not oil!! Bible says all returns to dust! Fossil fuel my ass!! Oil is a self replenishing gift from the LORD..
Sorry bout missing this from the last thread but I wanted my 2 cents in concerning this.
Sorry bout missing this from the last thread but I wanted my 2 cents in concerning this.
Posted by: J Biden Sniffy gives me a stiffy... at May 19, 2019 07:18 PM (0LXU2)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 19, 2019 07:18 PM (0ReGO)
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Have not used the PET II reactive target, but do own and use the iTarget Pro system that works with laser rounds and your phone.
iTarget Pro's really good to introduce non-gun people to the heft and feel of a gun while in the living room. And for practice, too, of course.
https://youtu.be/_fI6w3KAYyw
iTarget Pro's really good to introduce non-gun people to the heft and feel of a gun while in the living room. And for practice, too, of course.
https://youtu.be/_fI6w3KAYyw
Posted by: Dan at May 19, 2019 07:18 PM (+NG5U)
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Naw, full DROS...
And with new ammo regs around corner it's buy now or else.
And with new ammo regs around corner it's buy now or else.
Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 19, 2019 07:19 PM (BY3SS)
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We had a swap meet at the gun club today. I managed to sell a few items that I no longer use like a couple of shot shell loading presses. More on the meet later.
Question for Weasel and others. I picked up some once fired military brass in 7.62x51. It looks good. I plan to use it for reloads in .308. The question is do I need a small base sizing die for the first reload? It will be used in a Savage model 11 bolt action rifle.
I ssen people on the nets swear up and down that a small base die is needed. Even more said they did just fine with standard Lee dies.
Any opinions or experience in this matter?
Question for Weasel and others. I picked up some once fired military brass in 7.62x51. It looks good. I plan to use it for reloads in .308. The question is do I need a small base sizing die for the first reload? It will be used in a Savage model 11 bolt action rifle.
I ssen people on the nets swear up and down that a small base die is needed. Even more said they did just fine with standard Lee dies.
Any opinions or experience in this matter?
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:19 PM (bmdz3)
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Nietzsche says that there is no gun.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 07:19 PM (4knXT)
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The only thing I ever have difficulty with is compressing the main spring in my 1911.
That little bugger gives me fits.
Any number of times it goes flying off to Lord only knows where.
That little bugger gives me fits.
Any number of times it goes flying off to Lord only knows where.
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 07:20 PM (w7KSn)
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I have an old (1930s) Winchester single shot bolt action .22. It has a yuge threaded thing that lets you separate the stock from the barrel-bolt assembly.
I have never failed to take it apart and put it back together in two pieces.
I have never failed to take it apart and put it back together in two pieces.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 07:20 PM (fuK7c)
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Nietzsche says that there is no gun.
Posted by: Cicero
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Plato says that we only perceive images of the ideal gun.
Posted by: Cicero
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Plato says that we only perceive images of the ideal gun.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:21 PM (CDGwz)
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Random PSA: I've got 130 rounds of.45ACP looking for a good home. I'm in Stafford, VA. Email in nic.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: LOL, get fucked at May 19, 2019 07:22 PM (T8HPM)
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We had a swap meet at the gun club today. I managed to sell a few items that I no longer use like a couple of shot shell loading presses. More on the meet later.
Question for Weasel and others. I picked up some once fired military brass in 7.62x51. It looks good. I plan to use it for reloads in .308. The question is do I need a small base sizing die for the first reload? It will be used in a Savage model 11 bolt action rifle.
I ssen people on the nets swear up and down that a small base die is needed. Even more said they did just fine with standard Lee dies.
Any opinions or experience in this matter?
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:19 PM (bmdz3)
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Not necessarily. Will an empty cartridge chamber? I FL size all my brass, but I do have a small base .308 die if you need to borrow one.
Question for Weasel and others. I picked up some once fired military brass in 7.62x51. It looks good. I plan to use it for reloads in .308. The question is do I need a small base sizing die for the first reload? It will be used in a Savage model 11 bolt action rifle.
I ssen people on the nets swear up and down that a small base die is needed. Even more said they did just fine with standard Lee dies.
Any opinions or experience in this matter?
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:19 PM (bmdz3)
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Not necessarily. Will an empty cartridge chamber? I FL size all my brass, but I do have a small base .308 die if you need to borrow one.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:22 PM (MVjcR)
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We had a swap meet at the gun club today. I managed
to sell a few items that I no longer use like a couple of shot shell
loading presses. More on the meet later.
Question for Weasel and others. I picked up some once fired military
brass in 7.62x51. It looks good. I plan to use it for reloads in .308.
The question is do I need a small base sizing die for the first reload?
It will be used in a Savage model 11 bolt action rifle.
I ssen people on the nets swear up and down that a small base die is
needed. Even more said they did just fine with standard Lee dies.
Any opinions or experience in this matter?
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:19 PM
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You need a military grade de priming tool to start with at first. Those primers are crimped and they are a gold plated biotch to get out without a special tool.
to sell a few items that I no longer use like a couple of shot shell
loading presses. More on the meet later.
Question for Weasel and others. I picked up some once fired military
brass in 7.62x51. It looks good. I plan to use it for reloads in .308.
The question is do I need a small base sizing die for the first reload?
It will be used in a Savage model 11 bolt action rifle.
I ssen people on the nets swear up and down that a small base die is
needed. Even more said they did just fine with standard Lee dies.
Any opinions or experience in this matter?
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:19 PM
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You need a military grade de priming tool to start with at first. Those primers are crimped and they are a gold plated biotch to get out without a special tool.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 07:23 PM (JUOKG)
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true story: back about 85 or so, we got a call at the Armory, from a casting agent looking for guys with "military hair cuts and belts."
3 or 4 of us grabbed a 151 from the motor pool and drove up to Van Nuys airport.
we were in what was release as "Assassination"
they issued us Air Farce Security Police uniforms, and 1911's.
then they left us alone. bad move. disassembled the 1911's only to find extra parts we couldn't get back in, so we shit canned them and reassembled the weapons w/o them.
since we weren't going to use them for anything but visual props that day,no one noticed, but, somewhere down the road, some Hollyweird armorers musta been mad as hell.
3 or 4 of us grabbed a 151 from the motor pool and drove up to Van Nuys airport.
we were in what was release as "Assassination"
they issued us Air Farce Security Police uniforms, and 1911's.
then they left us alone. bad move. disassembled the 1911's only to find extra parts we couldn't get back in, so we shit canned them and reassembled the weapons w/o them.
since we weren't going to use them for anything but visual props that day,no one noticed, but, somewhere down the road, some Hollyweird armorers musta been mad as hell.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 07:23 PM (MasTK)
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If I were younger, I would be interested in that armorer's course. Now I want to spend time shooting and doing basic cleaning. If I had a bunch of Sigs, of which I have none, I might feel differently.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:23 PM (bmdz3)
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Take a bucket of dead lizards and...
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I was afraid that the next bit was going to have to do with grilling.
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I was afraid that the next bit was going to have to do with grilling.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:23 PM (CDGwz)
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Since it's a gun thread, I present for you, the next big thing... I hope.
https://youtu.be/6hsOrULshco (The shooty part.)
https://youtu.be/EF9UThg7PkM (The 'nuts-n-bolts' part.)
Yeah, it's an LMG, but what I wouldn't given to tote those puppies around instead my company's "pig"...besides, I can always dream that PDT will sign a "State Militia Empowerment" EO.
https://youtu.be/6hsOrULshco (The shooty part.)
https://youtu.be/EF9UThg7PkM (The 'nuts-n-bolts' part.)
Yeah, it's an LMG, but what I wouldn't given to tote those puppies around instead my company's "pig"...besides, I can always dream that PDT will sign a "State Militia Empowerment" EO.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 19, 2019 07:25 PM (W+kMI)
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Hey J Biden Sniffy,
Another source of oil, coal and other "fossil" fuels is that vast forests were suddenly buried and crushed by Noah's flood.
Remember, the earth was a verdant Garden of Eden. Opulent lushness all over the earth.
Then It All Changed. Look where the oil is today -- under deserts, ice caps and prairies.
All that greenery was rapidly buried and didn't rot like it does on a forest floor today -- it was compressed in an anaerobic state into oil, gas and coal, awaiting the invention of the internal combustion engine.
Another source of oil, coal and other "fossil" fuels is that vast forests were suddenly buried and crushed by Noah's flood.
Remember, the earth was a verdant Garden of Eden. Opulent lushness all over the earth.
Then It All Changed. Look where the oil is today -- under deserts, ice caps and prairies.
All that greenery was rapidly buried and didn't rot like it does on a forest floor today -- it was compressed in an anaerobic state into oil, gas and coal, awaiting the invention of the internal combustion engine.
Posted by: Dan at May 19, 2019 07:25 PM (+NG5U)
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384 I just saw John Wick 3. He killed a lot of dudes in fantastic ways.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (7iukN)
Don't spoil it! Some of us haven't seen the movie yet. Sheesh!
Posted by: sinalco at May 19, 2019 07:00 PM (yODqO)
All I know is that you don't mess around with his dog.
Talking about John Wick is appropriate for the gun thread, right?
384 I just saw John Wick 3. He killed a lot of dudes in fantastic ways.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (7iukN)
Don't spoil it! Some of us haven't seen the movie yet. Sheesh!
Posted by: sinalco at May 19, 2019 07:00 PM (yODqO)
All I know is that you don't mess around with his dog.
Talking about John Wick is appropriate for the gun thread, right?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 19, 2019 07:25 PM (ufFY8)
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One more good thing about the CZ P-07, there is a .22 LR Kadet upper you can buy direct from CZ USA.
May pick that up.
May pick that up.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:25 PM (xJa6I)
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59 Random PSA: I've got 130 rounds of.45ACP looking for a good home. I'm in Stafford, VA. Email in nic.
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sold: e-mail en-route
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sold: e-mail en-route
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 07:25 PM (MasTK)
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adobe juan, was suggesting how that gun might have come to be available in CA - understand DROS is still part of the picture [handgun]. Having let my FFL-O3 lapse, don't actually know current CA rules on transfer of C and R gubs.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:25 PM (QDnY+)
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On today's Book Thread I mentioned Anthony Bourdain's book. On his first day of work at one of the many restaurants on his resume, he walked into the employee rest room to find the line cooks assembling M16s.
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 07:27 PM (dyaak)
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Thanks for the kudos, beloved Horde!
I've been meaning to try this for several years now and I finally did it!
I have discovered that I will need to find a handgun with a trigger not too far away from the grip. On three of the four guns I tried, I had to get my pointer finger in contact with the trigger and then seat the grip in my hand.
I have very dainty hands.
I've been meaning to try this for several years now and I finally did it!
I have discovered that I will need to find a handgun with a trigger not too far away from the grip. On three of the four guns I tried, I had to get my pointer finger in contact with the trigger and then seat the grip in my hand.
I have very dainty hands.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:27 PM (4HMW8)
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I just saw John Wick 3. He killed a lot of dudes in fantastic ways.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (7iukN)
I've heard that the plot's boring, but the action scenes more than make up for it. Is there any truth to this?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (7iukN)
I've heard that the plot's boring, but the action scenes more than make up for it. Is there any truth to this?
Posted by: Surfperch at May 19, 2019 07:27 PM (tVQUs)
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Hey, anyone... I'm recently moved to a new area. There are some very large, flat, open fields around. I'm considering asking some landowners for permission for long range (to me) rifle shooting. Is it true that most official +500m ranges are oriented for shooting towards the North? Is that for the lighting, or other reasons?
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:28 PM (K1IUD)
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*peers around looking for spiders*
Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:29 PM (sdi6R)
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My Lee decapper for 3O-O6 has no problem removing crimped primers in HXP brass. Dunno, 3O8 might be different. I still think I might get a Lee universal decapping die some day.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:29 PM (QDnY+)
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I just saw John Wick 3. He killed a lot of dudes in fantastic ways.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (7iukN)
Don't spoil it! Some of us haven't seen the movie yet. Sheesh!
Posted by: sinalco at May 19, 2019 07:00 PM (yODqO)
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Well. It IS a John Wick movie.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (7iukN)
Don't spoil it! Some of us haven't seen the movie yet. Sheesh!
Posted by: sinalco at May 19, 2019 07:00 PM (yODqO)
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Well. It IS a John Wick movie.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 07:30 PM (0tfLf)
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nice of you to feature emmie's share.
Posted by: trapper's girl at May 19, 2019 07:30 PM (DGS6j)
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74 Hey, anyone... I'm recently moved to a new area. There are some very large, flat, open fields around. I'm considering asking some landowners for permission for long range (to me) rifle shooting. Is it true that most official +500m ranges are oriented for shooting towards the North? Is that for the lighting, or other reasons?
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:28 PM (K1IUD)
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Most are oriented S to N, for lighting I assume!
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:28 PM (K1IUD)
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Most are oriented S to N, for lighting I assume!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:30 PM (MVjcR)
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I have been to the SIG Sauer Academy several times, and the instruction is great. I have also taken quite a few classes at Gunsite Academy. One of the classes I took at SIG was the 320 armorer's course. I am not sure if I would go back for the re-certification, but it was worth the initial investment. At least I know how the thing works, and how to take it apart and re-assemble it. I would probably pay about $200 for the re-cert, but it's expensive to get there and back. Car rental, hotel, cost of the class, etc. Just the same, I do go back once a year.
Posted by: RPL at May 19, 2019 07:30 PM (Nhl7I)
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"From a very young age I was fascinated by taking things apart to see how they worked. The only problem being that I wasn't particularly good at putting things back together again."
Suddenly, I don't feel alone any more. I remember as a yute-early teen, I rode the Craftsman riding lawn mower for the lower 3 acres once a week. My neighbor asked my me, via my dad, to mow his half acre. So I did, but the mower was running rough. So I started trying to figure out why.
When my dad came home from work and saw his beloved riding Craftsman mower in pieces on the lawn, let's just call it a learning experience that LCD remembers to this day.
"From a very young age I was fascinated by taking things apart to see how they worked. The only problem being that I wasn't particularly good at putting things back together again."
Suddenly, I don't feel alone any more. I remember as a yute-early teen, I rode the Craftsman riding lawn mower for the lower 3 acres once a week. My neighbor asked my me, via my dad, to mow his half acre. So I did, but the mower was running rough. So I started trying to figure out why.
When my dad came home from work and saw his beloved riding Craftsman mower in pieces on the lawn, let's just call it a learning experience that LCD remembers to this day.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 19, 2019 07:31 PM (sy5kK)
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Somewhere on the twatters there's video of Keanu and Hallie shootin' at a 3-gun/training facility. Forget where. This apparently was connected to prep for the movie.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:31 PM (QDnY+)
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Weasel and GWS, Thanks for the information. I haven't had a chance to try the brass in my rifle or to prime it. I'll get to that this week. I do have the means to get rid of the primer crimp.
Weasel, If the small base die is needed, I'll take you up on your kind offer.
Weasel, If the small base die is needed, I'll take you up on your kind offer.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:32 PM (bmdz3)
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don't actually know current CA rules on transfer of C and R gubs.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:25 PM (QDnY+)
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haven't done it yet, but, if you are the buyer, you have to report the purchase to the DOJ on line or via mail, and add it to your book for the ATF.
(from memory, so don't quote me)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:25 PM (QDnY+)
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haven't done it yet, but, if you are the buyer, you have to report the purchase to the DOJ on line or via mail, and add it to your book for the ATF.
(from memory, so don't quote me)
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 07:32 PM (MasTK)
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+500m ranges are oriented for shooting towards the North? Is that for the lighting, or other reasons?
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?!
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In this part of the country, it's been a tradition since 1861.
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?!
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In this part of the country, it's been a tradition since 1861.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:32 PM (CDGwz)
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9 The Nurse put 5 rounds into a 1" group at 7 yards with a Glock 19.
Some of these 'ettes are fucking deadly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:05 PM (xJa6I)
Nice!
Some of these 'ettes are fucking deadly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:05 PM (xJa6I)
Nice!
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:33 PM (4HMW8)
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What they're doing to Kraft and Manafort et al is coming for us all. Conservatives I mean. Don't doubt it for a second.
Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 07:33 PM (uEbPt)
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> have you been to the range?
Yes.
I finished testing assorted brands of ammo for my S&W MP15 and went with Red Army Standard 56gr as best bang for the buck.
that out of the way, I tried to see how well I could shoot when I was just trying to hit the target - not testing how the rifle worked.
Pretty well!
29 of 29 in the 8" target at 55 yards - 5 shots in the 8 ring were the *worst* 5 shots. 7 bullseyes.
Tried 100 yards. 28 of 30 on an 17" target. Mostly high but stacked in a 6-8" wide column above the bullseye.
I thought that was ok for peep sights!
That MP15 shoots pretty good.
Yes.
I finished testing assorted brands of ammo for my S&W MP15 and went with Red Army Standard 56gr as best bang for the buck.
that out of the way, I tried to see how well I could shoot when I was just trying to hit the target - not testing how the rifle worked.
Pretty well!
29 of 29 in the 8" target at 55 yards - 5 shots in the 8 ring were the *worst* 5 shots. 7 bullseyes.
Tried 100 yards. 28 of 30 on an 17" target. Mostly high but stacked in a 6-8" wide column above the bullseye.
I thought that was ok for peep sights!
That MP15 shoots pretty good.
Posted by: ArthurK at May 19, 2019 07:34 PM (q3yV9)
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You had you-tube to help you put the thing back together? Spoiled brat!
Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 07:34 PM (KOCKb)
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Most are oriented S to N, for lighting I assume!
Posted by: Weasel
So, old bombing ranges and abandoned 1 mile long WW2 airport runways that are NNE or so would be OK for potential matches?
Posted by: Weasel
So, old bombing ranges and abandoned 1 mile long WW2 airport runways that are NNE or so would be OK for potential matches?
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:34 PM (K1IUD)
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wow. the twatter story from OM was enlightening.
EMMIE! congrats! Can I be on your team?
so, this weekend, I purchased TWO hand held noisemakers.
a Ruger .22 pistol, which I am in love with
and
A GLOCK 19 gen 4!!!!
asap I want to put a thousand rounds into it and see if we can meld together. Then it's time to renew my CPL and feel confident I can defend myself and my fellow parishioners. I'm sick of this shit.
smooches!
EMMIE! congrats! Can I be on your team?
so, this weekend, I purchased TWO hand held noisemakers.
a Ruger .22 pistol, which I am in love with
and
A GLOCK 19 gen 4!!!!
asap I want to put a thousand rounds into it and see if we can meld together. Then it's time to renew my CPL and feel confident I can defend myself and my fellow parishioners. I'm sick of this shit.
smooches!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 07:34 PM (PkVlr)
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76 ... rhomboid, I use the Lee Universal decapping die with the Lee hand press. It works great and I can deprime while listening to music or the ball game. Just have to remember to dump the primers every 20 cases.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:35 PM (bmdz3)
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I have discovered that I will need to find a handgun with a trigger not too far away from the grip.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:27 PM (4HMW
The usual advice is to find a range with rentals or a well-stocked shop and get lots of time handling and operating all kinds of guns, even if you can't fire them all, to see what feels comfortable. Smaller guns and cartridges for smaller people isn't always the best fit, and you might be surprised by which ones feel comfortable and easy to operate for you. That said, you're doing very well with the .38, so it's a good place to start.
just looking at the picture, I'm going to imagine that you dropped the target with one shot and then walked up and unloaded on it on the ground, then lowered your sunglasses and walked away from it while a car exploded behind you in slow motion.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:27 PM (4HMW
The usual advice is to find a range with rentals or a well-stocked shop and get lots of time handling and operating all kinds of guns, even if you can't fire them all, to see what feels comfortable. Smaller guns and cartridges for smaller people isn't always the best fit, and you might be surprised by which ones feel comfortable and easy to operate for you. That said, you're doing very well with the .38, so it's a good place to start.
just looking at the picture, I'm going to imagine that you dropped the target with one shot and then walked up and unloaded on it on the ground, then lowered your sunglasses and walked away from it while a car exploded behind you in slow motion.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:35 PM (t+qrx)
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Would love to take any armorer's course relevant to the gunzzz I use. So far, so good, with self-edumucation, and restraint. Do mean to do total disassembly of my XD some time [it's not recommended]. Field strip is nothing, but full disassembly of slide and frame require some pin work. Need to get me some roll pin punches - which I probably need for the [eventual] AR build anyway.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:35 PM (QDnY+)
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Already bought the G19?
Good on you, Nurse!
SGAmmo and Carolina Munitions has good prices on ammo this weekend, everyone.
Good on you, Nurse!
SGAmmo and Carolina Munitions has good prices on ammo this weekend, everyone.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:36 PM (xJa6I)
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So, old bombing ranges and abandoned 1 mile long WW2 airport runways that are NNE or so would be OK for potential matches?
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:34 PM (K1IUD)
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Sure - you just don't want to be shooting into a rising or setting sun.
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:34 PM (K1IUD)
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Sure - you just don't want to be shooting into a rising or setting sun.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:36 PM (MVjcR)
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I, for one, am truly amused that we are finally having that "national conversation" about abortion and all the lefty heads are exploding.
Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 07:38 PM (KOCKb)
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Spent this week at the range zeroing my Arisaka Type 38 and my H & R M1 Garand. Arisaka shot fine at 100 yards and will take her out to 300 and 600 yards next week.
The M1 however, broke a firing pin. Rear foot snapped off. Just didn't sound right when I checked then took her apart and there was the shiny evidence, plus the missing foot.
Have 2 firing pins on the way from Liberty Tree Collectors.....good people.
Anyways, here's how to disassemble an M1 Garand bolt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhvvTm1cLk
I use the M3A1 combo tool, but a punch works just as well.
The M1 however, broke a firing pin. Rear foot snapped off. Just didn't sound right when I checked then took her apart and there was the shiny evidence, plus the missing foot.
Have 2 firing pins on the way from Liberty Tree Collectors.....good people.
Anyways, here's how to disassemble an M1 Garand bolt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhvvTm1cLk
I use the M3A1 combo tool, but a punch works just as well.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 07:38 PM (Z+IKu)
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The Armorer's class sounds like a good investment to me. I remember when I first started building AR's...and the several humbling trips to the local gunsmith.
Posted by: WVinMN at May 19, 2019 07:39 PM (pV4s0)
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Good choices Nurse.
I have a Ruger as well. It's a fun shoot.
I have a Ruger as well. It's a fun shoot.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 07:39 PM (0tfLf)
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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?
Why, yes. Cowboy Action Shooting practice. Four Ruger New Vaquero (two Bisley 5-1/2" .357 and two plowhandle 4-5/8" barrel .357 -- my wife likes the smaller handles, I like the Bisley) shooting .38 Special downloaded with 105 grain slugs pushed by "X" charge of Trail Boss, with overall length set to 1.478" so they feed into the 1873 Winchester .357 rifle nice.
Top it off with a Stoeger 20" 12ga SxS.
Revolvers, rifle and shotgun. It's a beautiful thing.
250 .38 spl rounds and 48 shotshells.
Why, yes. Cowboy Action Shooting practice. Four Ruger New Vaquero (two Bisley 5-1/2" .357 and two plowhandle 4-5/8" barrel .357 -- my wife likes the smaller handles, I like the Bisley) shooting .38 Special downloaded with 105 grain slugs pushed by "X" charge of Trail Boss, with overall length set to 1.478" so they feed into the 1873 Winchester .357 rifle nice.
Top it off with a Stoeger 20" 12ga SxS.
Revolvers, rifle and shotgun. It's a beautiful thing.
250 .38 spl rounds and 48 shotshells.
Posted by: Dan at May 19, 2019 07:39 PM (+NG5U)
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97 I, for one, am truly amused that we are finally having that "national conversation" about abortion and all the lefty heads are exploding.
Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 07:38 PM (KOCKb)
Razorfist was talking about how reframing it as a 'heartbeat' bill was brilliant verbal ju-jutsu.
Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 07:38 PM (KOCKb)
Razorfist was talking about how reframing it as a 'heartbeat' bill was brilliant verbal ju-jutsu.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:40 PM (xJa6I)
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SGAmmo and Carolina Munitions has good prices on ammo this weekend, everyone.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:36 PM (xJa6I)
Palmetto State Armory has M855 green tips for $32.99/120, with free shipping for 3+ boxes. About $0.28/rnd.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:36 PM (xJa6I)
Palmetto State Armory has M855 green tips for $32.99/120, with free shipping for 3+ boxes. About $0.28/rnd.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:41 PM (t+qrx)
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Mark,
Marine recruit son and I went to Tacoma to scout out a few shops and see if the prices were better than in seattle
I finally purchased in seattle for about 100 bucks LESS.
go figure.
son wants to build his own Glock. they sell some interesting paperweights online that might just fit together.......
Marine recruit son and I went to Tacoma to scout out a few shops and see if the prices were better than in seattle
I finally purchased in seattle for about 100 bucks LESS.
go figure.
son wants to build his own Glock. they sell some interesting paperweights online that might just fit together.......
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 07:41 PM (PkVlr)
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asap I want to put a thousand rounds into it and see if we can meld together. Then it's time to renew my CPL and feel confident I can defend myself and my fellow parishioners. I'm sick of this shit.
smooches!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 07:34 PM (PkVlr)
I am convinced that one of the places where a person should be armed is at church, for two reasons. One, it is probably perceived as a soft target by homicidal maniacs, so we should be ready to engage. Two, the Church is an obstacle to would-be tyrants and some day they are going to try to do away with anyone who won't serve the State before God.
smooches!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 07:34 PM (PkVlr)
I am convinced that one of the places where a person should be armed is at church, for two reasons. One, it is probably perceived as a soft target by homicidal maniacs, so we should be ready to engage. Two, the Church is an obstacle to would-be tyrants and some day they are going to try to do away with anyone who won't serve the State before God.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:42 PM (4HMW8)
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Here's a youtube 'ment I just saw:
How many imbislsols are in the demidummys presidential library now? 25 by the time 2020 rolls around there will be 75 or 100 imbislsols.
Which one of you wrote it?
Here's a youtube 'ment I just saw:
How many imbislsols are in the demidummys presidential library now? 25 by the time 2020 rolls around there will be 75 or 100 imbislsols.
Which one of you wrote it?
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 19, 2019 07:42 PM (pmoFd)
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Weasel, Thanks for the links in the post. The one on the 303 Bristish looks especially interesting. And I wonder if the advice about choosing a revolver will match my well developed biases.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:43 PM (bmdz3)
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Sure - you just don't want to be shooting into a rising or setting sun.---Ya. At dawn the winds are calm.
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:43 PM (K1IUD)
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> 103 SGAmmo and Carolina Munitions has good prices on ammo this weekend, everyone.
SGAmmo always has good prices.
I got my .223 Red Army from them at about 19.5 cents a pop - including shipping.
SGAmmo always has good prices.
I got my .223 Red Army from them at about 19.5 cents a pop - including shipping.
Posted by: ArthurK at May 19, 2019 07:43 PM (q3yV9)
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Hey everybody.
Re Black Rifle Coffee: a few months ago when Ben & Jerry's came out with a stupid anti-Trump ice cream flavor, I suggested BR should start up an ice cream offshoot. Idea turned out to be very popular... :-)
Re Black Rifle Coffee: a few months ago when Ben & Jerry's came out with a stupid anti-Trump ice cream flavor, I suggested BR should start up an ice cream offshoot. Idea turned out to be very popular... :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2019 07:44 PM (miE9U)
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Thanks, rhomboid. Either the CZ or a NAA MC-22 w wmr/lr combo cyls. Trying to embrace the power of and.
Sigh, my ppt contacts have gone to their rewards.
Sigh, my ppt contacts have gone to their rewards.
Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 19, 2019 07:44 PM (6Ufv6)
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104 Mark,
Marine recruit son and I went to Tacoma to scout out a few shops and see if the prices were better than in seattle
I finally purchased in seattle for about 100 bucks LESS.
go figure.
son wants to build his own Glock. they sell some interesting paperweights online that might just fit together.......
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 07:41 PM (PkVlr)
Nice!
Did he enjoy the weather in Yakima this weekend? Hope he had fun or "fun".
Yes, they do sell Glock frames and assemblies. I hope he finds something he likes.
Marine recruit son and I went to Tacoma to scout out a few shops and see if the prices were better than in seattle
I finally purchased in seattle for about 100 bucks LESS.
go figure.
son wants to build his own Glock. they sell some interesting paperweights online that might just fit together.......
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 07:41 PM (PkVlr)
Nice!
Did he enjoy the weather in Yakima this weekend? Hope he had fun or "fun".
Yes, they do sell Glock frames and assemblies. I hope he finds something he likes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:44 PM (xJa6I)
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Also, we should do a combo gun AND food thread. Example topic:
"What food is best improved by being shot at?"
"What food is best improved by being shot at?"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 19, 2019 07:44 PM (miE9U)
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (NWiLs)
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I is here. Finally. Now to read more content. But glad to see that Weasel has set foot in the hallowed state of NH.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (LUAtD)
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Emmie,
you're reading my mind. I spoke with a couple of the Ushers yesterday at Mass, and asked if we have a "plan."
they got pissed and said no. they are pissed because they have been told NOT to talk about such things. So, we are going to talk about it anyway, because the world is changing and I'm not going to be afraid to go to Mass.
you're reading my mind. I spoke with a couple of the Ushers yesterday at Mass, and asked if we have a "plan."
they got pissed and said no. they are pissed because they have been told NOT to talk about such things. So, we are going to talk about it anyway, because the world is changing and I'm not going to be afraid to go to Mass.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (PkVlr)
117
just looking at the picture, I'm going to imagine that you dropped the target with one shot and then walked up and unloaded on it on the ground, then lowered your sunglasses and walked away from it while a car exploded behind you in slow motion.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:35 PM (t+qrx)
I'm getting a kick out of imagining myself as a bad-ass.
I'm pretty much a librarian or accountant type.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:35 PM (t+qrx)
I'm getting a kick out of imagining myself as a bad-ass.
I'm pretty much a librarian or accountant type.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (4HMW8)
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Sure - you just don't want to be shooting into a rising or setting sun.---Ya. At dawn the winds are calm.
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:43 PM (K1IUD)
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Some of my fondest shooting memories are of the sunrise over the desert north of Phoenix.
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:43 PM (K1IUD)
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Some of my fondest shooting memories are of the sunrise over the desert north of Phoenix.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (MVjcR)
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emmie, That is one very impressive target in the post. What was the distance?
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:46 PM (bmdz3)
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115 I is here. Finally. Now to read more content. But glad to see that Weasel has set foot in the hallowed state of NH.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (LUAtD)
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Dude. I totally waved as I went by!
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (LUAtD)
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Dude. I totally waved as I went by!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:47 PM (MVjcR)
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Agreed, hogmartin. My Ruger 22/45 used to cause me to swear, until I just figured out the engineering. But you have to be able to visualize what's going on. And then do it over and over . . .
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 07:49 PM (LUAtD)
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Nurse Ratched, you are wise. Our church put together a security team with some people formally patrolling the grounds with radio communications and others just carrying in church. It was one of our elders on the security team who took me shooting.
I'm hoping it is not too uncomfortable to carry, because once I get some equipment and a permit, I intend to carry to work and church.
I'm hoping it is not too uncomfortable to carry, because once I get some equipment and a permit, I intend to carry to work and church.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:49 PM (4HMW8)
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 07:52 PM (kHy01)
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> 122 ...
I'm hoping it is not too uncomfortable to carry, because once I get some equipment and a permit, I intend to carry to work and church.
Posted by: Emmie
Just keep trying smaller and lighter guns until it *is* comfortable. People have a tendency to skip CCW because the gun is uncomfortable.
I'm hoping it is not too uncomfortable to carry, because once I get some equipment and a permit, I intend to carry to work and church.
Posted by: Emmie
Just keep trying smaller and lighter guns until it *is* comfortable. People have a tendency to skip CCW because the gun is uncomfortable.
Posted by: ArthurK at May 19, 2019 07:53 PM (q3yV9)
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I'm pretty much a librarian or accountant type.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM
go on....
I'm pretty much a librarian or accountant type.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM
go on....
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 07:53 PM (kHy01)
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Agreed, hogmartin. My Ruger 22/45 used to cause me to swear, until I just figured out the engineering. But you have to be able to visualize what's going on. And then do it over and over . . .
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 07:49 PM (LUAtD)
Yes, joking aside, the parts in a MkII want to go back together, gravity and other parts just won't let them. Once you figure out how it all fits, you can get them to help instead of fighting you. It doesn't help that it's not exactly intuitive, but none of the steps themselves are difficult.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 07:49 PM (LUAtD)
Yes, joking aside, the parts in a MkII want to go back together, gravity and other parts just won't let them. Once you figure out how it all fits, you can get them to help instead of fighting you. It doesn't help that it's not exactly intuitive, but none of the steps themselves are difficult.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:55 PM (t+qrx)
127
Nurse, also, based on some insights from Morons in the past, I see no reason to not conceal carry wherever it is legal. First, if it's concealed, no one will be having a fit about a gun on the premises. Second, if someone objects, I guess they can ask me to leave and I'm happy to oblige.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:55 PM (4HMW8)
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go on....
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 07:53 PM (kHy01)
..... and married.
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 07:53 PM (kHy01)
..... and married.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:56 PM (4HMW8)
129
There was (or is) a good "game" on Steam called world of guns in which you take apart and put back together various guns. Very detailed, every piece.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 19, 2019 07:56 PM (r+sAi)
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126 Agreed, hogmartin. My Ruger 22/45 used to cause me to swear, until I just figured out the engineering. But you have to be able to visualize what's going on. And then do it over and over . . .
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 07:49 PM (LUAtD)
Yes, joking aside, the parts in a MkII want to go back together, gravity and other parts just won't let them. Once you figure out how it all fits, you can get them to help instead of fighting you. It doesn't help that it's not exactly intuitive, but none of the steps themselves are difficult.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:55 PM (t+qrx)
Or just buy the MK IV versions like I ended up doing
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 07:49 PM (LUAtD)
Yes, joking aside, the parts in a MkII want to go back together, gravity and other parts just won't let them. Once you figure out how it all fits, you can get them to help instead of fighting you. It doesn't help that it's not exactly intuitive, but none of the steps themselves are difficult.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:55 PM (t+qrx)
Or just buy the MK IV versions like I ended up doing
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 07:56 PM (xJa6I)
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I'm hoping it is not too uncomfortable to carry, because once I get some equipment and a permit, I intend to carry to work and church.
Posted by: Emmie
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You might want to consider a K frame (think Joe Friday) revolver like a S&W Model 66.
Posted by: Emmie
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You might want to consider a K frame (think Joe Friday) revolver like a S&W Model 66.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:56 PM (MVjcR)
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A big leather covered fake Bible comes in real handy on Sundays.
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 07:57 PM (w7KSn)
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hogmartin: did you get it zero'd?
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 07:52 PM (kHy01)
Newp. I got it mounted but parents were visiting so dad and I went to the pistol range at Total Firearms in Mason instead.
Also, the mount takes up the whole rail so the MBUS sights had to come off. It's either the scope or the irons and since the scope is 1-4x scope wins for now. There are stlll the MLOK points at 10 and 2 on the forearm but that's for the fancy lads with their EOTechs and their backwards hats and their rap musics. I am a simple unfrozen caveman A2 guy.
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 07:52 PM (kHy01)
Newp. I got it mounted but parents were visiting so dad and I went to the pistol range at Total Firearms in Mason instead.
Also, the mount takes up the whole rail so the MBUS sights had to come off. It's either the scope or the irons and since the scope is 1-4x scope wins for now. There are stlll the MLOK points at 10 and 2 on the forearm but that's for the fancy lads with their EOTechs and their backwards hats and their rap musics. I am a simple unfrozen caveman A2 guy.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 07:58 PM (t+qrx)
134
Nurse, also, based on some insights from Morons in the past, I see no reason to not conceal carry wherever it is legal. First, if it's concealed, no one will be having a fit about a gun on the premises. Second, if someone objects, I guess they can ask me to leave and I'm happy to oblige.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:55 PM
******
That's my philosophy as well.
It's "Concealed" carry. And I don't tell anyone.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:55 PM
******
That's my philosophy as well.
It's "Concealed" carry. And I don't tell anyone.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 07:58 PM (0tfLf)
135
> Some of my fondest shooting memories are of the sunrise over the desert north of Phoenix.
Posted by: Weasel
That sounds pleasant. I'm looking at an area about 2450 miles ENE of there. One of the Unorganized Townships in Maine.
Posted by: Weasel
That sounds pleasant. I'm looking at an area about 2450 miles ENE of there. One of the Unorganized Townships in Maine.
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:58 PM (K1IUD)
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Hairyback Guy - wow, a broke firing pin? Is it a CMP rifle? Have 2 HRA M1s, beautiful service grades. They still have them at decent prices, but keep thinking 2 good ones is enough.
Dan, sounds great! Don't expect to do cowboy action, but got my first lever-action recently, and plan to get it company [45 Colt] in the form of a Ruger or Uberti revolver down the road.
Oh - and only reloading thing I have this time is - a guy at the handgun match was giving away components an older friend of his could no longer use [moving into a care facility]. Old stuff, but in good condition. Large pistol primers will be used in my 45ACP; Win 296 powder [just 1 lb.] likely will help increase my tomato yield - 296/H11O is a bit tricky, not sure this is in perfect condition, I only use it in 3O carbine, and won't take any chances with my Quality Hardware 1943 carbine.
Dan, sounds great! Don't expect to do cowboy action, but got my first lever-action recently, and plan to get it company [45 Colt] in the form of a Ruger or Uberti revolver down the road.
Oh - and only reloading thing I have this time is - a guy at the handgun match was giving away components an older friend of his could no longer use [moving into a care facility]. Old stuff, but in good condition. Large pistol primers will be used in my 45ACP; Win 296 powder [just 1 lb.] likely will help increase my tomato yield - 296/H11O is a bit tricky, not sure this is in perfect condition, I only use it in 3O carbine, and won't take any chances with my Quality Hardware 1943 carbine.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 07:58 PM (QDnY+)
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the instructor had seen this before and helpfully mixed everything up into a big pile for me.
Love it when instructors do that.
Love it when instructors do that.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 07:59 PM (Hg4NE)
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119 emmie, That is one very impressive target in the post. What was the distance?
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:46 PM (bmdz3)
Well, it was fun pretending to be bad-ass for a few minutes.
The distance was about three yards. My friend asked what my primary goal was and I said "personal defense." So he figured the distance I would most likely need to try first was halfway across my living room.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 07:46 PM (bmdz3)
Well, it was fun pretending to be bad-ass for a few minutes.
The distance was about three yards. My friend asked what my primary goal was and I said "personal defense." So he figured the distance I would most likely need to try first was halfway across my living room.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:59 PM (4HMW8)
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That sounds pleasant. I'm looking at an area about 2450 miles ENE of there. One of the Unorganized Townships in Maine.
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:58 PM (K1IUD)
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Nice! Good luck!
Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 07:58 PM (K1IUD)
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Nice! Good luck!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 07:59 PM (MVjcR)
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I indulged today and brought home a little old Harrington and Richardson 22 revolver. It was made in 1956, blued, six inch barrel, fixed sights. The H and R guns were pretty basic but were reliable and had a reputation for decent accuracy. The double action trigger is the usual H and R heavy but smooth. Single action trigger is decent. This one is nearly pristine. It's clearly seen a lot of rounds but was cared for. It should be a fun little plinker.
I plan to get to the range this week to try it out.
I plan to get to the range this week to try it out.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:00 PM (bmdz3)
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I'm getting a kick out of imagining myself as a bad-ass.
I'm pretty much a librarian or accountant type.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (4HMW
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and when you take off the glasses and let your hair down???
I'm pretty much a librarian or accountant type.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (4HMW
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and when you take off the glasses and let your hair down???
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 08:00 PM (MasTK)
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yo
Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 08:01 PM (u3dHb)
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Well, it was fun pretending to be bad-ass for a few minutes.
The distance was about three yards. My friend asked what my primary goal was and I said "personal defense." So he figured the distance I would most likely need to try first was halfway across my living room.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:59 PM (4HMW
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Very smart keeping your skillz on the down low!
The distance was about three yards. My friend asked what my primary goal was and I said "personal defense." So he figured the distance I would most likely need to try first was halfway across my living room.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:59 PM (4HMW
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Very smart keeping your skillz on the down low!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:02 PM (MVjcR)
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Weasel, that looks somewhat like a LadySmith, which I'm considering.
I'm not opposed to a semi-auto, but I'd have to find one that fit my hand better than the two I tried.
I'm not opposed to a semi-auto, but I'd have to find one that fit my hand better than the two I tried.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:02 PM (4HMW8)
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60 We had a swap meet at the gun club today.
Question for Weasel and others. ........... It will be used in a Savage model 11 bolt action rifle.
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Savage model 11. Maybe the best value in new rifles today. Accurate as all get out, and priced right. And a million accessories are available to trick it out.
About 6 years ago, before I-594 communism in WA state, I answered an online post on a gub thread for a guy who wanted to sell an older model cousin, the 110, in 30.06, wood stock.
We met, and it was obvious the guy was paranoid about gubs. Found out it was gifted to him from some uncle or somesuch who passed, and he just wanted to get rid of it.
It was like new. Probably not more than 50 rounds ever fired, and his departed relative kept it like new.
I got it for $185, down from the $250 he wanted, and the $500+ a new version goes for today. He "worked me" off of my original offer of $150.
My closing question: I know it is a low offer, but I can take it off your hands NOW, and you won't have to worry about it in your house any more.
I still chuckle and approve of my actions that day.
And it was a nail-driver, right up to the time of my boating accident in an icy-cold river.
Question for Weasel and others. ........... It will be used in a Savage model 11 bolt action rifle.
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Savage model 11. Maybe the best value in new rifles today. Accurate as all get out, and priced right. And a million accessories are available to trick it out.
About 6 years ago, before I-594 communism in WA state, I answered an online post on a gub thread for a guy who wanted to sell an older model cousin, the 110, in 30.06, wood stock.
We met, and it was obvious the guy was paranoid about gubs. Found out it was gifted to him from some uncle or somesuch who passed, and he just wanted to get rid of it.
It was like new. Probably not more than 50 rounds ever fired, and his departed relative kept it like new.
I got it for $185, down from the $250 he wanted, and the $500+ a new version goes for today. He "worked me" off of my original offer of $150.
My closing question: I know it is a low offer, but I can take it off your hands NOW, and you won't have to worry about it in your house any more.
I still chuckle and approve of my actions that day.
And it was a nail-driver, right up to the time of my boating accident in an icy-cold river.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 19, 2019 08:02 PM (sy5kK)
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I am not big on Black Rife Coffee, and I usually like strong coffee, French Roast, but BR is too harsh for my taste
Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 08:02 PM (u3dHb)
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Emmie,
you're reading my mind. I spoke with a couple of the Ushers yesterday at Mass, and asked if we have a "plan."
they got pissed and said no. they are pissed because they have been told NOT to talk about such things. So, we are going to talk about it anyway, because the world is changing and I'm not going to be afraid to go to Mass.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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I've been working with my parish priest about such matters. He's giving the whole idea a listen but is a bit guarded. Our ushers are useless for defense as we have children performing the usher duty.
We'll see how this goes but I'm hopeful the priest allows me to organize a specialized team.
Until then - carry every Mass.
you're reading my mind. I spoke with a couple of the Ushers yesterday at Mass, and asked if we have a "plan."
they got pissed and said no. they are pissed because they have been told NOT to talk about such things. So, we are going to talk about it anyway, because the world is changing and I'm not going to be afraid to go to Mass.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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I've been working with my parish priest about such matters. He's giving the whole idea a listen but is a bit guarded. Our ushers are useless for defense as we have children performing the usher duty.
We'll see how this goes but I'm hopeful the priest allows me to organize a specialized team.
Until then - carry every Mass.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 19, 2019 08:03 PM (Y4EXg)
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Lights out time
Thunder in distance, not sure if lateral movement or heading this way.
Have good evening horde.
Thunder in distance, not sure if lateral movement or heading this way.
Have good evening horde.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 08:04 PM (BbGew)
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Emmie, very nice shooting!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 08:05 PM (4knXT)
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In ROTC class I took an M1 apart and put it back together. No extra parts left over.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 08:05 PM (dC1N1)
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58 Nietzsche says that there is no gun.
Posted by: Cicero
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Plato says that we only perceive images of the ideal gun.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:21 PM (CDGwz)
Never let perfect stand in the way of good.
Otherwise, your gub safe will never be full.
Posted by: Cicero
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Plato says that we only perceive images of the ideal gun.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 07:21 PM (CDGwz)
Never let perfect stand in the way of good.
Otherwise, your gub safe will never be full.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 19, 2019 08:05 PM (sy5kK)
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My friend asked what my primary goal was and I said "personal defense." So he figured the distance I would most likely need to try first was halfway across my living room.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:59 PM (4HMW
Did any of the neighbors complain?
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 07:59 PM (4HMW
Did any of the neighbors complain?
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:05 PM (t+qrx)
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136 ... rhomboid,
Be careful. Those lever action rifles, especially paired with a revolver in the same caliber, are addictive. Don't ask how I know.
Be careful. Those lever action rifles, especially paired with a revolver in the same caliber, are addictive. Don't ask how I know.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:05 PM (bmdz3)
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4 Weasel, that looks somewhat like a LadySmith, which I'm considering.
I'm not opposed to a semi-auto, but I'd have to find one that fit my hand better than the two I tried.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:02 PM (4HMW
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We did a thread on compact pistols a few months ago - if you remind me I'll email you a link or you can dig around in the archives linked at the end of the thread.
I'm not opposed to a semi-auto, but I'd have to find one that fit my hand better than the two I tried.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:02 PM (4HMW
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We did a thread on compact pistols a few months ago - if you remind me I'll email you a link or you can dig around in the archives linked at the end of the thread.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:06 PM (MVjcR)
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I have to say that I land up on the side of COL North and COL West if this NRA thing is going kerblooey. I think they are at about the same heading as I am. I've been a member a long time, not a life member but paid up through 2027 (which may be good enough). The fatkatz at the top been living too large it seems. I vote for COL North, and COL West. And I'm a guy who has tickets to the ETEX Friends Of The NRA get-together this coming week and still intend to go.
Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2019 08:06 PM (qBNEP)
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Black Rifle Coffee - if you don't try the covfefe, at least check out their ads/videos online. Not dainty, but hilarious. The steel plate-shooting version of Jingle Bells - Christmas ad - was particularly moving. Ha!
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:06 PM (QDnY+)
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Hairyback Guy - wow, a broke firing pin? Is it a CMP rifle? Have 2 HRA M1s, beautiful service grades. They still have them at decent prices, but keep thinking 2 good ones is enough.
Yup...originally it was....Great shooter it is but the "weak" spot on the M1 is the firing pin, although this one pin is 20 plus years so I wouldn't call it weak as much as time wears all things eventually.
It is an easy fix and I should have had a back up pin anyways in the butt storage.
Always have extra firing pins for any rifles your own if you can. For the burning times.
Yup...originally it was....Great shooter it is but the "weak" spot on the M1 is the firing pin, although this one pin is 20 plus years so I wouldn't call it weak as much as time wears all things eventually.
It is an easy fix and I should have had a back up pin anyways in the butt storage.
Always have extra firing pins for any rifles your own if you can. For the burning times.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 08:07 PM (Z+IKu)
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We did a thread on compact pistols a few months ago - if you remind me I'll email you a link or you can dig around in the archives linked at the end of the thread.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:06 PM (MVjcR)
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=379589
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:06 PM (MVjcR)
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=379589
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:07 PM (t+qrx)
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Sure, she's good against cardboard, but let's see her go toe to toe against a 27" color TV.
Posted by: Zombie Elvis Presley at May 19, 2019 08:07 PM (4knXT)
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Time for a cigar, don't you think?
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:07 PM (MVjcR)
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154 4 Weasel, that looks somewhat like a LadySmith, which I'm considering.
I'm not opposed to a semi-auto, but I'd have to find one that fit my hand better than the two I tried.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:02 PM (4HMW
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We did a thread on compact pistols a few months ago - if you remind me I'll email you a link or you can dig around in the archives linked at the end of the thread.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:06 PM (MVjcR)
CZ's and the Smith and Wesson M&P might have the short trigger.
I'm not opposed to a semi-auto, but I'd have to find one that fit my hand better than the two I tried.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:02 PM (4HMW
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We did a thread on compact pistols a few months ago - if you remind me I'll email you a link or you can dig around in the archives linked at the end of the thread.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:06 PM (MVjcR)
CZ's and the Smith and Wesson M&P might have the short trigger.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:08 PM (xJa6I)
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Cold rainy day in Bay area in May. Solar minimum ice age confirmed.
Posted by: Max Power at May 19, 2019 08:08 PM (QCc6B)
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Hiya.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 19, 2019 08:08 PM (htgmn)
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Indiana gun laws are horseshit. I'm traveling across country and back, through a lot of states (CO, KS, OK, AR, TN, NC, VA WV, KY, OH, IN, MO).
The only one where I have to take my piece out of the glove box, and lock it in a hardcase, in the trunk, separated from ammunition and magazines is IN.
What a lame ass shithole.
The only one where I have to take my piece out of the glove box, and lock it in a hardcase, in the trunk, separated from ammunition and magazines is IN.
What a lame ass shithole.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:09 PM (cMrpH)
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Tonypete,
I have been. Even without a permit. I figure if I have to use it, being properly permitted will be the least of my worries.
I have been. Even without a permit. I figure if I have to use it, being properly permitted will be the least of my worries.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 08:09 PM (PkVlr)
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That's my philosophy as well.
It's "Concealed" carry. And I don't tell anyone.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 07:58 PM (0tfLf)
Bingo.
It's "Concealed" carry. And I don't tell anyone.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 07:58 PM (0tfLf)
Bingo.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 08:10 PM (LUAtD)
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The only one where I have to take my piece out of the glove box, and lock it in a hardcase, in the trunk, separated from ammunition and magazines is IN.
What a lame ass shithole.
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Just like CA. Sure, you can OWN a gun, just make sure you never keep it where it will do you any good.
What a lame ass shithole.
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Just like CA. Sure, you can OWN a gun, just make sure you never keep it where it will do you any good.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 08:10 PM (4knXT)
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have been. Even without a permit. I figure if I have to use it, being properly permitted will be the least of my worries.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 08:09 PM (PkVlr)
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This is what I would do. If I owned a gun, I mean.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 08:09 PM (PkVlr)
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This is what I would do. If I owned a gun, I mean.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 08:11 PM (4knXT)
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CZ's and the Smith and Wesson M&P might have the short trigger.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:08 PM (xJa6I)
I've heard CZs are very nice. Is that correct?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:08 PM (xJa6I)
I've heard CZs are very nice. Is that correct?
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:12 PM (4HMW8)
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Hairyback, I bought spares for my M1s from CMP - firing pin, clip latch spring, a few other things reco'd by people on the CMP forum. And I also use the multi-tool/in the gun disassembly method for the bolt.
Which reminds me - damn makers of the XD discontinued their "tactical" [5-inch barrel] version of the XD9 - my first gub and still only 9mikemike. Need to call them and find out which parts subject to wear/tear are *not* common to the regular XD line, and get spares.
Which reminds me - damn makers of the XD discontinued their "tactical" [5-inch barrel] version of the XD9 - my first gub and still only 9mikemike. Need to call them and find out which parts subject to wear/tear are *not* common to the regular XD line, and get spares.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:13 PM (QDnY+)
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Indiana has reciprocity for CO CCW holders, so you should be able to keep it loaded if you have CO CCW.
MI considers anything inside a vehicle to be "concealed", so it needs to be cased and in the trunk unless you have CCW, in which case you can keep it loaded wherever you want. IN might be the same way.
MI considers anything inside a vehicle to be "concealed", so it needs to be cased and in the trunk unless you have CCW, in which case you can keep it loaded wherever you want. IN might be the same way.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:13 PM (t+qrx)
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Nietzsche says that there is no gun.
Posted by: Cicero
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Plato says that we only perceive images of the ideal gun.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,
I plink, therefore I am.
Posted by: Cicero
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Plato says that we only perceive images of the ideal gun.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,
I plink, therefore I am.
Posted by: Miklos Descartes at May 19, 2019 08:15 PM (QzkSJ)
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Nurse ratchet don't do it in The People's republic of New Jersey.
( just remembered had truck windows down, thunder maybe getting closer)
( just remembered had truck windows down, thunder maybe getting closer)
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 08:15 PM (BbGew)
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Did not go to the range last week but finished restoring from a barrelled receiver a Long Branch No. 4 Mk. 1/3 that was last FTR'ed at Fazerkly in 1953. The barrel is nearly new and I had to fit a bolt head to a new old stock bolt body. Fortunately, a zero numbered bolt head fitted to nearly perfect headspace after gauging it and indexed exactly correct.
JTB is right about using the Lee Universal Decapper Die. It is strong enough to pop most military primers out, if you do it a lot, get some extra decapping pins which are cheap. You will still need to ream the primer pockets out.
If you do get the Lee Handheld press, get the newer model one that has the quick die change feature.
JTB is right about using the Lee Universal Decapper Die. It is strong enough to pop most military primers out, if you do it a lot, get some extra decapping pins which are cheap. You will still need to ream the primer pockets out.
If you do get the Lee Handheld press, get the newer model one that has the quick die change feature.
Posted by: whig at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (WT0Md)
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I plink, therefore I am.
Posted by: Miklos Descartes at May 19, 2019 08:15 PM (QzkSJ)
Cogito, ergo boom.
Posted by: Miklos Descartes at May 19, 2019 08:15 PM (QzkSJ)
Cogito, ergo boom.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (t+qrx)
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Emmie - CZs are very nice. No revolvers, though [not counting the Dan Wesson brand, which has no small revolvers].
But try everything you can get ahold of before buying. Part of the fun.
But try everything you can get ahold of before buying. Part of the fun.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (QDnY+)
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175 I plink, therefore I am.
Posted by: Miklos Descartes at May 19, 2019 08:15 PM (QzkSJ)
Cogito, ergo boom.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (t+qrx)
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LOL you guys are good
Posted by: Miklos Descartes at May 19, 2019 08:15 PM (QzkSJ)
Cogito, ergo boom.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (t+qrx)
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LOL you guys are good
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (4knXT)
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I own a SandW M and P compact. It does not have a safety. I think that would be a negative for a carry gun.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (dC1N1)
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Emmie, 3 yards is a good practical range to start and from my reading is a realistic distance.
BTW, Mrs. JTB has tiny hands and is very comfortable with the Smith and Wesson M and P semi-auto in 9mm. Small and flat and darn accurate.
BTW, Mrs. JTB has tiny hands and is very comfortable with the Smith and Wesson M and P semi-auto in 9mm. Small and flat and darn accurate.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (bmdz3)
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (kHy01)
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Laser PET II -
How does he achieve repetition (after 4 shot in one second) with a laser round?
How does he achieve repetition (after 4 shot in one second) with a laser round?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 08:18 PM (Hg4NE)
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Consider IN to be part of America - surprised to hear about that gun law.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:18 PM (QDnY+)
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So... CZ VZ50 .32auto - reliable, cool cold war relic mouse gun... or jamamatic commie junk? Are there really more pistols in USA than magazines? Where da mags at?
Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 19, 2019 08:18 PM (0U8MI)
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Mike Hammer @ 23- Mondo Kane! Did you see it at the drive-in? My then youngish girlfriend asked why are you holding your hands over your crotch?
Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2019 08:18 PM (qBNEP)
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164 Indiana gun laws are horseshit. I'm traveling across country and back, through a lot of states (CO, KS, OK, AR, TN, NC, VA WV, KY, OH, IN, MO).
The only one where I have to take my piece out of the glove box, and lock it in a hardcase, in the trunk, separated from ammunition and magazines is IN.
What a lame ass shithole.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:09 PM (cMrpH)
Indiana or Illinois? I thought Indiana had reasonable gun laws. I know Illinois is a shithole, and not just their gun laws. Anytime I travel east, I stop at the last gas stop in Iowa, fill up with gas, lock any guns in the back and don't stop in Illinois except to take a piss.
The only one where I have to take my piece out of the glove box, and lock it in a hardcase, in the trunk, separated from ammunition and magazines is IN.
What a lame ass shithole.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:09 PM (cMrpH)
Indiana or Illinois? I thought Indiana had reasonable gun laws. I know Illinois is a shithole, and not just their gun laws. Anytime I travel east, I stop at the last gas stop in Iowa, fill up with gas, lock any guns in the back and don't stop in Illinois except to take a piss.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 19, 2019 08:18 PM (bjCNA)
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http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=379589
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:07 PM (t+qrx)
Good hunting, Hogmartin!
I've heard good things about the Ruger LCP.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:07 PM (t+qrx)
Good hunting, Hogmartin!
I've heard good things about the Ruger LCP.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:18 PM (4HMW8)
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A parallel to the disassembly / disassembly learning curve:
How many of ya have modified or made a tool specifically to ease the task on a certain make or model of gun?
I understand that there are modified parts for the various pre Mk.IV Ruger .22 autopistols that greatly ease the re-assembly process.
And I have a modified, (notched) standard screwdriver which lets me easily re-seat the trigger rebound block with internal spring, in a S&W revolver action.
Made that one myself, after paying untold sums to NORAD for their aid in tracking springs I'd launched into low-earth orbit.
And damn shame, I lost the self-made jig I'd built to hold a Remington 870 bolt and carrier in alignment with the operating bars...amazing how smooooooth you can make those actions run, as long as everything is honed and polished and set to run in perfect, parallel order.
Fulfillment wise though, I love working on a good S&W or Colt revolver. There's a Zen in getting it all right, timed, slick'd n' smoothed.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
How many of ya have modified or made a tool specifically to ease the task on a certain make or model of gun?
I understand that there are modified parts for the various pre Mk.IV Ruger .22 autopistols that greatly ease the re-assembly process.
And I have a modified, (notched) standard screwdriver which lets me easily re-seat the trigger rebound block with internal spring, in a S&W revolver action.
Made that one myself, after paying untold sums to NORAD for their aid in tracking springs I'd launched into low-earth orbit.
And damn shame, I lost the self-made jig I'd built to hold a Remington 870 bolt and carrier in alignment with the operating bars...amazing how smooooooth you can make those actions run, as long as everything is honed and polished and set to run in perfect, parallel order.
Fulfillment wise though, I love working on a good S&W or Colt revolver. There's a Zen in getting it all right, timed, slick'd n' smoothed.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2019 08:19 PM (QzJWU)
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I own a SandW M and P compact. It does not have a safety. I think that would be a negative for a carry gun.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (dC1N1)
*shrug*
None of my pistols have external manual safeties.
https://stoatnet.org/bhdsafety.gif
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (dC1N1)
*shrug*
None of my pistols have external manual safeties.
https://stoatnet.org/bhdsafety.gif
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:19 PM (t+qrx)
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Emmie, the only thing I'd add (before asking about your librarian glasses)(yes, Moron, therefore crude - apologies to hubby)(but only if he's armed), the best advice I've ever appreciated is:
AIM SMALL, MISS SMALL.
In other words, don't aim for center of mass, aim for middle shirt button.
You'll see what I mean if you practice that way.
AIM SMALL, MISS SMALL.
In other words, don't aim for center of mass, aim for middle shirt button.
You'll see what I mean if you practice that way.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 08:19 PM (LUAtD)
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68 ... "One more good thing about the CZ P-07, there is a .22 LR Kadet upper you can buy direct from CZ USA."
Mark, We have the 22 Kadet option for our CZ 75b and it is a tack driver. Worth the cost. We both like the feel and balance of the CZ nad putting the 22 adapter on doesn't change that feel.
Mark, We have the 22 Kadet option for our CZ 75b and it is a tack driver. Worth the cost. We both like the feel and balance of the CZ nad putting the 22 adapter on doesn't change that feel.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:21 PM (bmdz3)
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if you have CO CCW
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Nope. I don't want to register my shit. I've figured out compromises re: carrying that I don't love but keep me inside the letter of the law while minimally impeding me (still too much).
But I can't bring myself to tell a g-man about my stuff.
And, BTW, I have a canoe trip in the morning
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Nope. I don't want to register my shit. I've figured out compromises re: carrying that I don't love but keep me inside the letter of the law while minimally impeding me (still too much).
But I can't bring myself to tell a g-man about my stuff.
And, BTW, I have a canoe trip in the morning
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:22 PM (fRz6m)
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Hairyback, I bought spares for my M1s from CMP - firing pin, clip latch spring, a few other things reco'd by people on the CMP forum. And I also use the multi-tool/in the gun disassembly method for the bolt.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:13 PM (QDnY+)
Nice Rboid!....worst thing ever is needing a spare part and can't find one.
Anyone use a muzzle brake on their M1? It replaces the gas cylinder lock so it's not a permanent change....you can always put the rifle back to original...looks intriguing.
https://tinyurl.com/y6dslrvb
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:13 PM (QDnY+)
Nice Rboid!....worst thing ever is needing a spare part and can't find one.
Anyone use a muzzle brake on their M1? It replaces the gas cylinder lock so it's not a permanent change....you can always put the rifle back to original...looks intriguing.
https://tinyurl.com/y6dslrvb
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 08:22 PM (Z+IKu)
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BTW, Mrs. JTB has tiny hands and is very comfortable with the Smith and Wesson M and P semi-auto in 9mm. Small and flat and darn accurate.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (bmdz3)
Is that a Shield?
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:16 PM (bmdz3)
Is that a Shield?
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:22 PM (4HMW8)
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adobe juan, lack specific experience with the VZ-5O, but Czech gunzzz are not "commie junk" [and lots of commie guns are much better than junk] - would be surprised if that gun were a lemon. But what matters is if you want it.
Mags for some out of production models can be an issue. Check around online. Just looked, TripleK in San Diego has mags, $39.
Mags for some out of production models can be an issue. Check around online. Just looked, TripleK in San Diego has mags, $39.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:23 PM (QDnY+)
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190 68 ... "One more good thing about the CZ P-07, there is a .22 LR Kadet upper you can buy direct from CZ USA."
Mark, We have the 22 Kadet option for our CZ 75b and it is a tack driver. Worth the cost. We both like the feel and balance of the CZ nad putting the 22 adapter on doesn't change that feel.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:21 PM (bmdz3)
nice!
Mark, We have the 22 Kadet option for our CZ 75b and it is a tack driver. Worth the cost. We both like the feel and balance of the CZ nad putting the 22 adapter on doesn't change that feel.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:21 PM (bmdz3)
nice!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:24 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 19, 2019 08:25 PM (0U8MI)
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YD, isn't it illegal to conceal carry in Colorado without a permit?
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:26 PM (4HMW8)
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Indiana or Illinois?
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IN. I know, I was surprised too. I chalk it up to proximity with the Land of Obama (where I will not set foot if possible. Better to cut south and around). If you want to use I-80 Eastbound you have to, though.
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IN. I know, I was surprised too. I chalk it up to proximity with the Land of Obama (where I will not set foot if possible. Better to cut south and around). If you want to use I-80 Eastbound you have to, though.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:26 PM (fRz6m)
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Jim, part of the trigger assembly on the CZ-83 is apparently a bear to re-assemble, a guy has invented a "tool" [from a paper clip] to help do it. Need to check it out as some day will want to do full disassembly on the CZ-83s.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:27 PM (QDnY+)
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But I can't bring myself to tell a g-man about my stuff.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:22 PM (fRz6m)
CCW licenses the carrier, not any particular weapon. A CPL holder can carry any legal sidearm they want. But that's for MI. I don't know if other states say you can only weapons that you put on your ticket or whatever.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:22 PM (fRz6m)
CCW licenses the carrier, not any particular weapon. A CPL holder can carry any legal sidearm they want. But that's for MI. I don't know if other states say you can only weapons that you put on your ticket or whatever.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:27 PM (t+qrx)
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Weasel, fantastic job. Important colon in the next week or two we need to address 80% lower completion in the impending laws in Washington state July 1st. as best as I can understand these Waze it appears that possession of 80% lower and the means to complete it or tools that can be used to construct a non-registered receiver and the intent to complete will become illegal. In other words possession of an 80% lower in a file would be a crime as his possession of a 3D printer and software files to run off a receiver. I think it's actually more catastrophic than that but that's my nutshell interpretation. If that's the case we need to discus 80% lowers and strategies for those of us trapped in the people's republic of Washington and similar extremist jurisdictions. As well as how the state law contrast with federal law and Eddy legal action that may be pinned and trying to fight this ridiculous crap. Thanks for all you do and thanks for addressing us if you think it's worthwhile.
Posted by: M K Ultra at May 19, 2019 08:28 PM (nxw5n)
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Re, the NRA:
Lifetime member. Never have appreciated LaPierre.
I'd love to audit the books.
EVERY organization gets corrupted over time, with individuals believing their shit don't stink; therefore, they are entitled to goodies.
But, it is the premier organization that has protected the 2 Am. Not always in the best way, but it's been effective.
The Left would love if it self-destructed. Can't have that happen.
Lifetime member. Never have appreciated LaPierre.
I'd love to audit the books.
EVERY organization gets corrupted over time, with individuals believing their shit don't stink; therefore, they are entitled to goodies.
But, it is the premier organization that has protected the 2 Am. Not always in the best way, but it's been effective.
The Left would love if it self-destructed. Can't have that happen.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 08:28 PM (LUAtD)
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adobe - name is for the family name, begins with a K. Three kids inherited the biz, I think. Friend knows one of them, I might have, back in junior high.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:28 PM (QDnY+)
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Autocorrect is my enema...
Posted by: M K Ultra at May 19, 2019 08:29 PM (nxw5n)
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So, we are going to talk about it anyway, because the world is changing and I'm not going to be afraid to go to Mass.
Posted by: nurse ratched
Tell them the story about those four cops in Houston shooting each other in that Tuttle raid.
You've got to have a plan and stick to it or things can go really south. Work up, what ifs.
Posted by: nurse ratched
Tell them the story about those four cops in Houston shooting each other in that Tuttle raid.
You've got to have a plan and stick to it or things can go really south. Work up, what ifs.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 08:29 PM (Hg4NE)
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I don't know if other states say you can only weapons that you put on your ticket or whatever.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:27 PM
NY does. Or at least it did 20+ years ago when I had my carry permit there. Probably gotten worse since then.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:27 PM
NY does. Or at least it did 20+ years ago when I had my carry permit there. Probably gotten worse since then.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 19, 2019 08:30 PM (jwrVH)
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YD, isn't it illegal to conceal carry in Colorado without a permit?
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:26 PM (4HMW8
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No. You can carry in your car, if it's in the glove box, locked. Easy enough to do in an in accessible way.
On your, person it has to be "locked in a case" separate from the magazine. That's where I have to compromise - not on the "locked case" so much, where it's easy to play games with the letter of the law.
It's the magazine requirement that gets me - I just have to hope I have a few seconds to prepare if the time should ever come
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:26 PM (4HMW8
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No. You can carry in your car, if it's in the glove box, locked. Easy enough to do in an in accessible way.
On your, person it has to be "locked in a case" separate from the magazine. That's where I have to compromise - not on the "locked case" so much, where it's easy to play games with the letter of the law.
It's the magazine requirement that gets me - I just have to hope I have a few seconds to prepare if the time should ever come
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:30 PM (fRz6m)
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so anyway, yesterday, completely out of the blue, Twin the Eldest asks me if we could go to the range
Yes. Yes, we can.
We grabbed a black duffel bag full of gats, the 20ga & the clay tossing hardware, & a SBR
She ran through a box of .38, a box of 9mm, and most of a box of .45; then off to the trap field.
She had never shot a shotgun before, and managed to hit eight or nine clays out of 44-ish attempts. Shot 50 rounds of 20ga, then asked if I had any more in the truck.
We ran out of time, so we didn't get to shoot the rifle.
She just txt'd me from work & said that her shoulder is "a little tender" & can we go again next weekend
I've about talked her in to coming to the MiMoMe in June. The idea of a flintlock & a crew served anti aircraft artillery piece has her intrigued
so anyway, yesterday, completely out of the blue, Twin the Eldest asks me if we could go to the range
Yes. Yes, we can.
We grabbed a black duffel bag full of gats, the 20ga & the clay tossing hardware, & a SBR
She ran through a box of .38, a box of 9mm, and most of a box of .45; then off to the trap field.
She had never shot a shotgun before, and managed to hit eight or nine clays out of 44-ish attempts. Shot 50 rounds of 20ga, then asked if I had any more in the truck.
We ran out of time, so we didn't get to shoot the rifle.
She just txt'd me from work & said that her shoulder is "a little tender" & can we go again next weekend
I've about talked her in to coming to the MiMoMe in June. The idea of a flintlock & a crew served anti aircraft artillery piece has her intrigued
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:31 PM (kHy01)
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193 ... Emmie, Yes, it's the Shield which is the smallest version. The M and P Compact is slightly larger but can take more ammo. Mrs. JTB is comfortable with both. Smith really got the ergonomics right with that series.
Oddly, she is also very comfortable with the CZ 75b 9mm, which is a full size steel frame. She did well in competition with it. Not good for concealment, dammit.
Oddly, she is also very comfortable with the CZ 75b 9mm, which is a full size steel frame. She did well in competition with it. Not good for concealment, dammit.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:33 PM (bmdz3)
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CCW licenses the carrier, not any particular weapon.
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But they know you own one. Or likely do. I never buy guns at stores for the same reason. Background check, my left nut. They totally promise you don't go on a list. Super serial.
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But they know you own one. Or likely do. I never buy guns at stores for the same reason. Background check, my left nut. They totally promise you don't go on a list. Super serial.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:33 PM (fRz6m)
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Posted by: M K Ultra at May 19, 2019 08:28 PM (nxw5n)
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Thanks M K Ultra. I usually try and avoid talking too much about things, especially legal things, that I don't know much about. Having said that, I can certainly put it out there for discussion. Let me see what I can do.
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Thanks M K Ultra. I usually try and avoid talking too much about things, especially legal things, that I don't know much about. Having said that, I can certainly put it out there for discussion. Let me see what I can do.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:33 PM (MVjcR)
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Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:31 PM
Raised her well, you have.
Raised her well, you have.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 19, 2019 08:33 PM (jwrVH)
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 19, 2019 08:34 PM (pmoFd)
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 08:34 PM (0tfLf)
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132 A big leather covered fake Bible comes in real handy on Sundays.
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 07:57 PM (w7KSn)
Like Bill Clinton used to carry ?
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 07:57 PM (w7KSn)
Like Bill Clinton used to carry ?
Posted by: clutch at May 19, 2019 08:35 PM (kiSdp)
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I've heard CZs are very nice. Is that correct?
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:12 PM (4HMWConsider the CZ 75 Compact in particular, with a shortened trigger worked on by the Cajun Gun Works. It's a double-stack 9mm (14+1), and may be more than you need.The Ruger LC9 is a single-stack, very concealable, and may be more along what you want to try. However, it is so narrow, that of all the single and double stack mag 9mm and 45 acp handguns, it is the one that most hurts me to shoot. It's so narrow to hold that the web between thumb and first finger get bruised.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:12 PM (4HMW
Consider the CZ 75 Compact in particular, with a shortened trigger worked on by the Cajun Gun Works. It's a double-stack 9mm (14+1), and may be more than you need.The Ruger LC9 is a single-stack, very concealable, and may be more along what you want to try. However, it is so narrow, that of all the single and double stack mag 9mm and 45 acp handguns, it is the one that most hurts me to shoot. It's so narrow to hold that the web between thumb and first finger get bruised.Posted by: boing! where'd that go?! at May 19, 2019 08:36 PM (K1IUD)
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to goodies.
But, it is the premier organization that has protected the 2 Am. Not always in the best way, but it's been effective.
The Left would love if it self-destructed. Can't have that happen.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 08:28 PM (LUAtD)
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Good points, RI Red. The whole business just has me really annoyed!
But, it is the premier organization that has protected the 2 Am. Not always in the best way, but it's been effective.
The Left would love if it self-destructed. Can't have that happen.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 08:28 PM (LUAtD)
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Good points, RI Red. The whole business just has me really annoyed!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:36 PM (MVjcR)
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But they know you own one. Or likely do. I never buy guns at stores for the same reason. Background check, my left nut. They totally promise you don't go on a list. Super serial.
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What VPN are you using?
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What VPN are you using?
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:37 PM (EOEiY)
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Ephesians 6:10
Posted by: navybrat swimming upstream at May 19, 2019 08:37 PM (w7KSn)
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I've about talked her in to coming to the MiMoMe in June. The idea of a flintlock & a crew served anti aircraft artillery piece has her intrigued
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:31 PM (kHy01)
Neat! See if she has a clean-ish coffee can or something, or else I have to find my powder flask.
UGH, it's probably in the basement somewhere. Yeah, coffee can would be handy for powder. Maybe a peanut butter jar.
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:31 PM (kHy01)
Neat! See if she has a clean-ish coffee can or something, or else I have to find my powder flask.
UGH, it's probably in the basement somewhere. Yeah, coffee can would be handy for powder. Maybe a peanut butter jar.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:37 PM (t+qrx)
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Yeah, it's funny how Bush isn't as "Christian" as he was in office.
Time was, Bush was very pro-life. So so pro-life. Funny how all that went away after the 2004 election.
Yeah, it's funny how Bush isn't as "Christian" as he was in office.
Time was, Bush was very pro-life. So so pro-life. Funny how all that went away after the 2004 election.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 19, 2019 08:37 PM (pmoFd)
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RI Red, thanks for the guidance. I think I can picture what you mean.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:38 PM (4HMW8)
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Another reason to carry.
The state of Oregon just released a true freak. Illegal alien rapes a dog to death and gets a whopping 60 days. Oregon refuses to listen to ICE and lets him loose at the end of his term.
You just know that little pervert is coming to a town near you.
Gawd. WTF is wrong with elected officials???
The state of Oregon just released a true freak. Illegal alien rapes a dog to death and gets a whopping 60 days. Oregon refuses to listen to ICE and lets him loose at the end of his term.
You just know that little pervert is coming to a town near you.
Gawd. WTF is wrong with elected officials???
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 08:39 PM (0tfLf)
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I dunno...the drone target guy never called me back
the bofors gun might just have to be a static display
I dunno...the drone target guy never called me back
the bofors gun might just have to be a static display
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:41 PM (kHy01)
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Just kiddin rhomboid!! Will keep you posted on our california dreamin. If only gun owner suppression was as un PC as "voter suppression" the MSM rails about. The former exists, the latter a fiction.
Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 19, 2019 08:41 PM (UffTt)
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Illegal alien rapes a dog to death
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I'll take "things you never imagined reading, ever" for $1000, Alex.
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I'll take "things you never imagined reading, ever" for $1000, Alex.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:41 PM (EOEiY)
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what happened to the plan of double-bagging the powder in a couple of ziploc bags?
what happened to the plan of double-bagging the powder in a couple of ziploc bags?
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:42 PM (kHy01)
Posted by: A dude in MI at May 19, 2019 08:42 PM (SxBH1)
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I dunno...the drone target guy never called me back
the bofors gun might just have to be a static display
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:41 PM (kHy01)
Well, kids love cranking the elevation and azimuth thingies and making pew-pew noises anyway.
the bofors gun might just have to be a static display
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:41 PM (kHy01)
Well, kids love cranking the elevation and azimuth thingies and making pew-pew noises anyway.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:42 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 19, 2019 08:42 PM (pmoFd)
Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 08:43 PM (Cssks)
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Diogenes - only what the electorate will tolerate. And it continues to tolerate insane, outrageous behavior, that leads directly to mayhem and death.
And the Eight Year Plan to End Deadly Lawlessness the administration appears to be on is not the answer.
And the Eight Year Plan to End Deadly Lawlessness the administration appears to be on is not the answer.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:43 PM (QDnY+)
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What VPN are you using?
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers
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It's a good point. But CCW is openly a "list." NICS gun sales certainly are even if they won't admit it. NSA lists I'm not *quite* as worried about for a couple reasons, but still...
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers
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It's a good point. But CCW is openly a "list." NICS gun sales certainly are even if they won't admit it. NSA lists I'm not *quite* as worried about for a couple reasons, but still...
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 08:43 PM (cMrpH)
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I'm really appreciating the reommendationd for guns for small hands. Thanks, Horde!
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:43 PM (4HMW8)
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And not to tell anyone how to raise their kids or run their MoMe, but a black powder pistol would be a great addition if anyone has one. Even long-time shooters are always sort of in awe when they fire one for the first time.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:43 PM (EOEiY)
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:44 PM (kHy01)
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what happened to the plan of double-bagging the powder in a couple of ziploc bags?
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:42 PM (kHy01)
Oh, I might even have some of those anti-static bags from computer stuff. That's probably the safest way to transport a few pounds of loose black powder.
Because of the static, you see.
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:42 PM (kHy01)
Oh, I might even have some of those anti-static bags from computer stuff. That's probably the safest way to transport a few pounds of loose black powder.
Because of the static, you see.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:44 PM (t+qrx)
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Henry has come out with a combo side gate and tube loader. Brass receiver. It is a beaut.
Posted by: pat at May 19, 2019 08:45 PM (5zZ1Q)
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Emmie, more practical range advice. Don't aim at the red circle in the middle of a target. Aim at a speck in it or a previous hole.
You will smile. Swearsies.
You will smile. Swearsies.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 08:45 PM (LUAtD)
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Illegal alien rapes a dog to death
someone needs to hear the song of my people
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:44 PM (kHy01)
They need to hear a shotgun being chambered, then fired. At close range. It needs to be the last thing they ever hear.
Illegal alien rapes a dog to death
someone needs to hear the song of my people
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:44 PM (kHy01)
They need to hear a shotgun being chambered, then fired. At close range. It needs to be the last thing they ever hear.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:45 PM (xJa6I)
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Emmie and boing- CZ75 SP-01 is the shizzle. In the hand or the holster, shooting or carrying, it feels like a Browning Hi-Power and a 1911 had crazee muskrat sex and produced a prodigy. I have one and carry it sometimes if not in the canoe. Mrs. E can handle and shoot it is a most deadly fashion when she does not have a broken arm in rebuilding stage.
Posted by: Eromero at May 19, 2019 08:46 PM (qBNEP)
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Because of the static, you see.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:44 PM
right
remember the Hindenburg
Because of the static, you see.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:44 PM
right
remember the Hindenburg
Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 08:46 PM (kHy01)
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Picture reminds me of a time way back when during FMMS training at Camp Johnson. A enterprising fellow HM thought he was qualified to be a Marine Armorer and when we were cleaning our M-16 me took apart the entire lower receiver. Everything came out of it. The gunny was not happy. Unlike you, he had no idea how to put it back together.
Posted by: Doc at May 19, 2019 08:47 PM (4Corw)
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239 Emmie, more practical range advice. Don't aim at the red circle in the middle of a target. Aim at a speck in it or a previous hole.
You will smile. Swearsies.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 08:45 PM (LUAtD)
Cool! I will try that!
You will smile. Swearsies.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 08:45 PM (LUAtD)
Cool! I will try that!
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:47 PM (4HMW8)
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I've fired my Henry lever action .410 a few times. Still haven't been able to decrease the Magpie population. I will keep trying.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 08:48 PM (dC1N1)
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No. You can carry in your car, if it's in the glove box, locked. Easy enough to do in an in accessible way.
On a trip buddy was putting on a spare tire, a car pulls over, a fellow steps out and asks if he needs any help as he is walking towards him. He has a newspaper over one hand, as if he's holding it. Buddy's wife jumps out pistol in hand and tells him to hit the road.
On a trip buddy was putting on a spare tire, a car pulls over, a fellow steps out and asks if he needs any help as he is walking towards him. He has a newspaper over one hand, as if he's holding it. Buddy's wife jumps out pistol in hand and tells him to hit the road.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 08:48 PM (Hg4NE)
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Don't mot black powder guys use the substitutes like Pyrodex, to avoid the black powder problems?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
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Don't mot black powder guys use the substitutes like Pyrodex, to avoid the black powder problems?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
Only for percussion. A flintlock won't ignite Pyrodex, and priming powder for flintlocks is even finer than the main charge.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
Only for percussion. A flintlock won't ignite Pyrodex, and priming powder for flintlocks is even finer than the main charge.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:50 PM (t+qrx)
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Eromero, that sounds nice!
I have a chunk of money coming to me this fall. I hope to find just the right handgun. I would rather spend on one very functional weapon than several not-quite-right tries.
I have a chunk of money coming to me this fall. I hope to find just the right handgun. I would rather spend on one very functional weapon than several not-quite-right tries.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:50 PM (4HMW8)
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I own a SandW M and P compact. It does not have a safety. I think that would be a negative for a carry gun.
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I went from a Glock to a S&W Shield almost entirely because it offered the thumb safety in that size/caliber. Our youngest has some pretty extensive special needs, and he gets the whole Eddie Eagle don't touch, run away, tell an adult teachings that have been drilled into him, but if something ever happened where he DID get his hands on it, the safety might make the big difference.
That said, I generally flip it off when I'm wearing it.
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I went from a Glock to a S&W Shield almost entirely because it offered the thumb safety in that size/caliber. Our youngest has some pretty extensive special needs, and he gets the whole Eddie Eagle don't touch, run away, tell an adult teachings that have been drilled into him, but if something ever happened where he DID get his hands on it, the safety might make the big difference.
That said, I generally flip it off when I'm wearing it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:50 PM (EOEiY)
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208 ... AltonJackson, That is great news about the daughter. I hope she gets to try a flintlock or other muzzleloader (traditional only, not those verdammt, inline POS). Our young niece and her husband, both US Army, know all the new military weapons but fell in love with my black powder guns. I sent them home with a percussion rifle, a cap and ball revolver, and the needed tools and components. Black powder really adds another level to the shooting hobby.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 08:50 PM (bmdz3)
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I really want a flintlock.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:50 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:52 PM (EOEiY)
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I'm team 'no safety' for CCW pistols.
Under stress, it's one more thing to go wrong.
Mind you, I carried a '92 for over 10 years, so I had good muscle memory for draw/flip safety off.
But simple is better. Glocks and Glock-like are simple.
Under stress, it's one more thing to go wrong.
Mind you, I carried a '92 for over 10 years, so I had good muscle memory for draw/flip safety off.
But simple is better. Glocks and Glock-like are simple.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:53 PM (xJa6I)
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I should probably be a little more alarmed than I am that there's roughly 500ml by volume of 3Fg black powder in a brass flask somewhere in my house, wholly unaccounted for.
meh.
meh.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:53 PM (t+qrx)
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Sorry if that came out snootily, btw. I didn't mean it to. I just meant thats a good way to get one. I think kits are very reasonable, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:54 PM (EOEiY)
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Ok, guyz/galz. Off to see how GOT ends. Hope I don't need therapy.
Thx, Weasel and crew. Y'all are great.
Thx, Weasel and crew. Y'all are great.
Posted by: RI Red at May 19, 2019 08:54 PM (gn5nh)
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gunga la gunga
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 08:57 PM (P7e9W)
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OK. So here's a little anecdote. I was at the farm this weekend and yesterday was sitting in the shade trying to cool off a little. As I was sitting there, a BIG mastiff-type looking dog comes trotting by and lays down under the tractor parked about 15 feet away, but is paying zero attention to me. I realize that if he gets mad and decided to attack me all I have is my phone to throw at him. So I went to the camper and got a pistol just in case. After about 10 minutes, he gets up and trots away. I've never been hunting and have never shot anything living, but it sure made me appreciate having a firearm handy.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:57 PM (MVjcR)
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Heh. Just had to adjust my nic.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 08:57 PM (4HMW8)
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Sorry to go off thread, don't shoot me. This is a pretty important development.
It's been long rumored that British Intelligence and maybe even Theresa May knew about the Steele bullshit even before Trump was told and at least half of that is now confirmed.
https://tinyurl.com/y6s473g9
It's been long rumored that British Intelligence and maybe even Theresa May knew about the Steele bullshit even before Trump was told and at least half of that is now confirmed.
https://tinyurl.com/y6s473g9
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (/tuJf)
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256 Sorry if that came out snootily, btw. I didn't mean it to. I just meant thats a good way to get one. I think kits are very reasonable, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:54 PM (EOEiY)
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That's not a bad idea!
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:54 PM (EOEiY)
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That's not a bad idea!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (MVjcR)
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A mastiff is a big dog to be running around loose...
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (w7KSn)
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260 Heh. Just had to adjust my nic.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 08:57 PM (4HMW
LOL, nice. Well-earned.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 08:57 PM (4HMW
LOL, nice. Well-earned.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (xJa6I)
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I really want a flintlock.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:50 PM
Shhboom.
Perhaps at the MeMo, I shall tell you the tale of an informal match I got into one year at the Fort Bridger rendezvous, against a flintlock shooter.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:50 PM
Shhboom.
Perhaps at the MeMo, I shall tell you the tale of an informal match I got into one year at the Fort Bridger rendezvous, against a flintlock shooter.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 08:59 PM (DMUuz)
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I've heard good things about the Ruger LCP.
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:18 PM (4HMW8
If you are interested in tiny 380acp pistols either the LCP II(not the 1st Gen LCP) or the kahr cw380 are good options.
Also the M&P SHIELD 9MM is still dirt cheap at PSA $250.
So if you want a single stack 9mm the Shield, Ruger LC9s or Kahr CM9 are all good choices.
If you want a slightly bigger 9mm the Ruger security 9 pistols are very good for the price either the "full sized" or compact. ( They are the same size as the compact Glock 19 & sub-compact 26)
Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 08:18 PM (4HMW8
If you are interested in tiny 380acp pistols either the LCP II(not the 1st Gen LCP) or the kahr cw380 are good options.
Also the M&P SHIELD 9MM is still dirt cheap at PSA $250.
So if you want a single stack 9mm the Shield, Ruger LC9s or Kahr CM9 are all good choices.
If you want a slightly bigger 9mm the Ruger security 9 pistols are very good for the price either the "full sized" or compact. ( They are the same size as the compact Glock 19 & sub-compact 26)
Posted by: Ratus at May 19, 2019 08:59 PM (oi/mz)
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I love mastiffs. Good dogs. But damn big.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:59 PM (xJa6I)
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Heh. Just had to adjust my nic.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 08:57 PM (4HMW
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Nice!
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 08:57 PM (4HMW
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Nice!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:59 PM (MVjcR)
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I've never been hunting and have never shot anything living, but it sure made me appreciate having a firearm handy.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:57 PM (MVjcR)
Surely WeaselDog would have protected you, had she been there?
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:57 PM (MVjcR)
Surely WeaselDog would have protected you, had she been there?
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:00 PM (t+qrx)
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261 Sorry to go off thread, don't shoot me. This is a pretty important development.
It's been long rumored that British Intelligence and maybe even Theresa May knew about the Steele bullshit even before Trump was told and at least half of that is now confirmed.
https://tinyurl.com/y6s473g9
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (/tuJf)
I'd believe just about anything about perfidious Albion at this point
It's been long rumored that British Intelligence and maybe even Theresa May knew about the Steele bullshit even before Trump was told and at least half of that is now confirmed.
https://tinyurl.com/y6s473g9
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (/tuJf)
I'd believe just about anything about perfidious Albion at this point
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:01 PM (xJa6I)
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267 I love mastiffs. Good dogs. But damn big.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:59 PM (xJa6I)
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I'm not 100% sure of the breed, but I was 110% sure of the teeth and jaws.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 08:59 PM (xJa6I)
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I'm not 100% sure of the breed, but I was 110% sure of the teeth and jaws.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (MVjcR)
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I've shot a flintlock a few times. Seems like it takes forever for the charge to go off.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (dC1N1)
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Jack Straw, I am also reading about some new developments.
a) Julian Assange's possessions at the embassy are being turned over to US prosecutors.
b) Comey's book ironically is going to provide evidence essential to his eventual prosecution.
a) Julian Assange's possessions at the embassy are being turned over to US prosecutors.
b) Comey's book ironically is going to provide evidence essential to his eventual prosecution.
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (w7KSn)
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That's not a bad idea!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (MVjcR)
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I have no experience with them, but I'm told these are they way to go if you want to do it right the first time:
Jim Chambers
http://www.flintlocks.com/index.htm
I like that you can supply your own wood if you'd like. That would be neat if there was something special you'd like to incorporate.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (MVjcR)
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I have no experience with them, but I'm told these are they way to go if you want to do it right the first time:
Jim Chambers
http://www.flintlocks.com/index.htm
I like that you can supply your own wood if you'd like. That would be neat if there was something special you'd like to incorporate.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (EOEiY)
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255 I should probably be a little more alarmed than I am that there's roughly 500ml by volume of 3Fg black powder in a brass flask somewhere in my house, wholly unaccounted for.
meh.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:53 PM (t+qrx)
It'll be a surprise for someone.
If you have a fire it could go badly.
meh.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 08:53 PM (t+qrx)
It'll be a surprise for someone.
If you have a fire it could go badly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 09:03 PM (PkVlr)
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Don't mot black powder guys use the substitutes like Pyrodex, to avoid the black powder problems?
Can't use pyrodex in flintlocks, due to the high ignition temperature, and savvy shooters don't use it in percussion either, because it does horrible things to barrel steel over time.
Black powder isn't nearly as bad as folks seem to think it is.
Can't use pyrodex in flintlocks, due to the high ignition temperature, and savvy shooters don't use it in percussion either, because it does horrible things to barrel steel over time.
Black powder isn't nearly as bad as folks seem to think it is.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 19, 2019 09:03 PM (bZ7mE)
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Thank you, Ratus. I am keeping an eye out for handguns with a short distance to the trigger so I can reach it.
I have the hands of a ten-year-old.
I have the hands of a ten-year-old.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:03 PM (4HMW8)
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Even Dirty Harry blew a cop away or two once in a while (Magnum Force I think) albeit crooked ones.
Posted by: Hayden Sterling at May 19, 2019 09:03 PM (7O3zK)
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I've been following the NRA debacle from the sidelines. I'm a life member, but I've been working with boards of directors longer than I've been a life member.
First reaction: Too damned many board members. That in turn leads to a very small number of influential directors running the show. LaPierre (that name alone tells me that he should go) probably has his tongue strategically placed, well, wherever.
This kind of diffusion of responsibility on the part of directors almost always leads to an imperial CEO who forgets that he is supposed to answer to the board, not vice versa.
First reaction: Too damned many board members. That in turn leads to a very small number of influential directors running the show. LaPierre (that name alone tells me that he should go) probably has his tongue strategically placed, well, wherever.
This kind of diffusion of responsibility on the part of directors almost always leads to an imperial CEO who forgets that he is supposed to answer to the board, not vice versa.
Posted by: Furious George at May 19, 2019 09:04 PM (rDq8D)
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Surely WeaselDog would have protected you, had she been there?
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:00 PM (t+qrx)
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WD was actually my first thought - not sure how the big dog might've reacted to her little yappy self!
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:00 PM (t+qrx)
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WD was actually my first thought - not sure how the big dog might've reacted to her little yappy self!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:04 PM (MVjcR)
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And not to tell anyone how to raise their kids or run their MoMe, but a black powder pistol would be a great addition if anyone has one. Even long-time shooters are always sort of in awe when they fire one for the first time.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:43 PM
Loading and shooting one generally results in an ear-to-ear grin!
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 08:43 PM
Loading and shooting one generally results in an ear-to-ear grin!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 09:04 PM (DMUuz)
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I have no experience with them, but I'm told these are they way to go if you want to do it right the first time:
Jim Chambers
http://www.flintlocks.com/index.htm
I like that you can supply your own wood if you'd like. That would be neat if there was something special you'd like to incorporate.
Him or Jim Kibler, who uses Chambers' locks.
Jim Chambers
http://www.flintlocks.com/index.htm
I like that you can supply your own wood if you'd like. That would be neat if there was something special you'd like to incorporate.
Him or Jim Kibler, who uses Chambers' locks.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 19, 2019 09:04 PM (bZ7mE)
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Jim Chambers
http://www.flintlocks.com/index.htm
I like that you can supply your own wood if you'd like. That would be neat if there was something special you'd like to incorporate.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (EOEiY)
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Thanks - I will check that out!
http://www.flintlocks.com/index.htm
I like that you can supply your own wood if you'd like. That would be neat if there was something special you'd like to incorporate.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (EOEiY)
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Thanks - I will check that out!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:05 PM (MVjcR)
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I'm not 100% sure of the breed, but I was 110% sure of the teeth and jaws.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (MVjcR)
That is why the Romans bred them as guard dogs.
From what I have heard they are pretty darn good natured and good with kids evidently, always conscious of their size- which is nice in a dog that big.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (MVjcR)
That is why the Romans bred them as guard dogs.
From what I have heard they are pretty darn good natured and good with kids evidently, always conscious of their size- which is nice in a dog that big.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 09:05 PM (ycWCI)
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>>a) Julian Assange's possessions at the embassy are being turned over to US prosecutors.
b) Comey's book ironically is going to provide evidence essential to his eventual prosecution.
I heard about the first but not the second but I can't say I'm surprised. For a guy who spent a big part of his career at the top of criminal law he doesn't seem to be able to keep his mouth shut.
b) Comey's book ironically is going to provide evidence essential to his eventual prosecution.
I heard about the first but not the second but I can't say I'm surprised. For a guy who spent a big part of his career at the top of criminal law he doesn't seem to be able to keep his mouth shut.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 09:05 PM (/tuJf)
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276 Way to go, Emmie!
Whoohoo!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 09:03 PM (PkVlr)
I am looking forward to another range trip. Shooting is kind of scary, but I'd like to be proficient enough to address a threat should I encounter one.
Whoohoo!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 09:03 PM (PkVlr)
I am looking forward to another range trip. Shooting is kind of scary, but I'd like to be proficient enough to address a threat should I encounter one.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:05 PM (4HMW8)
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I've shot a flintlock a few times. Seems like it takes forever for the charge to go off.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM
Not if they're well-tuned. Few are.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM
Not if they're well-tuned. Few are.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 09:06 PM (DMUuz)
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First thing I took apart was an old Zenith console TV/Stereo we were replacing.. it was in the basement..
My brother and I had pitched in our meager funds to buy a Kingston bass guitar but could not afford an amplifier.. it would be another year before we had enough for that.
Anyway, I was thinking.. geez THIS is an amplifier! Through sheer luck, I found hacking into the stylus leads on the turntable proved to be perfect for amplifying a bass guitar!
Mom and Dad were aghast.. Dad got a loan for me and bro to buy an amp.. took two years to pay for it.. That's how people raised kids in the 50's/60's. Taught me responsibility
My brother and I had pitched in our meager funds to buy a Kingston bass guitar but could not afford an amplifier.. it would be another year before we had enough for that.
Anyway, I was thinking.. geez THIS is an amplifier! Through sheer luck, I found hacking into the stylus leads on the turntable proved to be perfect for amplifying a bass guitar!
Mom and Dad were aghast.. Dad got a loan for me and bro to buy an amp.. took two years to pay for it.. That's how people raised kids in the 50's/60's. Taught me responsibility
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 09:06 PM (438dO)
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Here is Kibler's website: https://kiblerslongrifles.com/
Jim Chambers is a friend of mine and a great guy, but his kits do require a bit more work than Kibler's new CNC kits.
Jim Chambers is a friend of mine and a great guy, but his kits do require a bit more work than Kibler's new CNC kits.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 19, 2019 09:06 PM (bZ7mE)
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you're reading my mind. I spoke with a couple of the Ushers yesterday at Mass, and asked if we have a "plan."
they got pissed and said no. they are pissed because they have been told NOT to talk about such things. So, we are going to talk about it anyway, because the world is changing and I'm not going to be afraid to go to Mass.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (PkVlr)
Our church and Christian School are not gun free zones and members are encouraged to carry whether attending church or school. Just have to have a NC concealed carry permit. I always carry when attending as do a number of other members.
they got pissed and said no. they are pissed because they have been told NOT to talk about such things. So, we are going to talk about it anyway, because the world is changing and I'm not going to be afraid to go to Mass.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 07:45 PM (PkVlr)
Our church and Christian School are not gun free zones and members are encouraged to carry whether attending church or school. Just have to have a NC concealed carry permit. I always carry when attending as do a number of other members.
Posted by: Agitator at May 19, 2019 09:06 PM (m9DnX)
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gotta start the fire for HRH's din-din.
checked on Dad in the horsepistol.
doing okay today, going for a CT guided biopsy of some lesions on his L7-8 vertebrae to see what's going on. if pathology says "bad stuff", he starts radiation treatment on them immediately.
still no word on when they're planning on checking out the prostate.
still better care then where he was, where nothing would be done for at least another 7-10 days, and then only a visit to the SNF by Doctor Red Dot.
checked on Dad in the horsepistol.
doing okay today, going for a CT guided biopsy of some lesions on his L7-8 vertebrae to see what's going on. if pathology says "bad stuff", he starts radiation treatment on them immediately.
still no word on when they're planning on checking out the prostate.
still better care then where he was, where nothing would be done for at least another 7-10 days, and then only a visit to the SNF by Doctor Red Dot.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 09:06 PM (MasTK)
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Weasel, Have you fired a flintlock before? They are habit forming.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:07 PM (bmdz3)
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It'll be a surprise for someone.
If you have a fire it could go badly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (ycWCI)
It wouldn't be with the flammable stuff in the garage, because I'd have kept it somewhere climate-controlled. It would be away from ignition sources, and with other combustible materials. I just have to check all of the places that could be.
If you have a fire it could go badly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 09:02 PM (ycWCI)
It wouldn't be with the flammable stuff in the garage, because I'd have kept it somewhere climate-controlled. It would be away from ignition sources, and with other combustible materials. I just have to check all of the places that could be.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:07 PM (t+qrx)
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Grey Fox, good that I asked - I'm learning here. Funny, have not had many black powder guys at the range on duty days, normally I pick people's brains at the range [one of the great things about RO duty - that, and shooting about every type of gun there is, courtesy of the owners].
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (QDnY+)
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Nood
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (4knXT)
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noooooo
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (xJa6I)
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It's still good, it's still good...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (xJa6I)
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Everybody is good at demo.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (pw+jk)
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It wouldn't be with the flammable stuff in the garage, because I'd have kept it somewhere climate-controlled. It would be away from ignition sources, and with other combustible materials. I just have to check all of the places that could be.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:07 PM (t+qrx)
Climate controlled. Away from flammables or ignition sources.
Is it in the freezer?
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:07 PM (t+qrx)
Climate controlled. Away from flammables or ignition sources.
Is it in the freezer?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (ycWCI)
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Huh. I just discovered that Jim Chambers shop is ten miles outside of Asheville. That might be a nice day trip for me and the kids this summer.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 09:09 PM (EOEiY)
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Nood
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (4knXT)
Oh dear.
Well, I think I'll go see if I can find that flask.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (4knXT)
Oh dear.
Well, I think I'll go see if I can find that flask.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:10 PM (t+qrx)
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I used to mix my own model airplane fuel. I have a bottle of nitro methane, lots of methanol and something for lube. Can't remember what.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 09:10 PM (dC1N1)
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t's been long rumored that British Intelligence and maybe even Theresa May knew about the Steele bullshit even before Trump was told and at least half of that is now confirmed.
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (/tuJf)
That woman is a piece of work.
She belongs in gaol.
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Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 08:58 PM (/tuJf)
That woman is a piece of work.
She belongs in gaol.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 09:10 PM (Z+IKu)
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294 Weasel, Have you fired a flintlock before? They are habit forming.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:07 PM (bmdz3)
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No, but they sure look like fun!
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:07 PM (bmdz3)
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No, but they sure look like fun!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:10 PM (MVjcR)
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Hmmm, ewok has posted a GoT thread. Since I have not seen one minute of it and won't, I'll remain here.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 09:11 PM (QDnY+)
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Nood is a Game of Thrones thread. Care level = 0.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 09:11 PM (DMUuz)
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Is it in the freezer?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (ycWCI)
That's a good guess, but no. I wouldn't have kept it anywhere it could get below about 50° because of condensation.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 09:08 PM (ycWCI)
That's a good guess, but no. I wouldn't have kept it anywhere it could get below about 50° because of condensation.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:11 PM (t+qrx)
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I'll hang around for a while if y'all want to keep talking guns.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:12 PM (MVjcR)
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Guns, God, and Good women; what else does a thread need? hmm, Tip o'the Makers Mark to the thread master, Weasel.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 09:12 PM (Hg4NE)
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I'll be in and out. Y'all have fun and thanks as always, Weasel.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 09:13 PM (EOEiY)
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311 Guns, God, and Good women; what else does a thread need? hmm, Tip o'the Makers Mark to the thread master, Weasel.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 09:12 PM (Hg4NE)
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Why thank you!
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 09:12 PM (Hg4NE)
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Why thank you!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:14 PM (MVjcR)
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Headspacing. T'would be a fine topic, Marse Weasel.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 09:14 PM (DMUuz)
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That's a good guess, but no. I wouldn't have kept it anywhere it could get below about 50° because of condensation.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:11 PM (t+qrx)
Probably not in the walk in humidor I hear comes with Platinum membership.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:11 PM (t+qrx)
Probably not in the walk in humidor I hear comes with Platinum membership.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 09:14 PM (ycWCI)
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272 ... Ronster, A properly tuned flintlock with a decent lock should go off about as fast as a percussion gun. A delay usually means the vent hole is too small or there's too much powder in the pan.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:14 PM (bmdz3)
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>>>I have the hands of a ten-year-old.
Give them back!
Posted by: Ten-Year-Old
How did you type that? Never mind, don't want to know.
Give them back!
Posted by: Ten-Year-Old
How did you type that? Never mind, don't want to know.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 19, 2019 09:15 PM (y8AGO)
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This might be more appropriate to the gun thread in two weeks, but I have a few more 'Fuck you, WA' purchases too.
I actually have enough rifles, unless I'm going to be equipping a platoon on my own...and I don't know that many local morons who don't have their own. So I bought some more semi-auto pistols, since that's what the newest fucking gun control law targets.
Anyway. I have another Ruger MK IV coming, with the 45 grip angle. I decided on a Glock 42 for the 380, based on the sheer numbers of inexpensive extended magazines for them. And I decided to get another 1911, a Ruger stainless with wood grips.
It'll be a couple weeks until I can test them, but I'll post another long range report when I do.
I'll be in Victoria next weekend, so will miss my range visit.
I actually have enough rifles, unless I'm going to be equipping a platoon on my own...and I don't know that many local morons who don't have their own. So I bought some more semi-auto pistols, since that's what the newest fucking gun control law targets.
Anyway. I have another Ruger MK IV coming, with the 45 grip angle. I decided on a Glock 42 for the 380, based on the sheer numbers of inexpensive extended magazines for them. And I decided to get another 1911, a Ruger stainless with wood grips.
It'll be a couple weeks until I can test them, but I'll post another long range report when I do.
I'll be in Victoria next weekend, so will miss my range visit.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:15 PM (xJa6I)
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GoT Spoiler: the dragons are completely tired of humans shit, and burn the entire species out of existence. End of story.
GoT Spoiler: the dragons are completely tired of humans shit, and burn the entire species out of existence. End of story.
Posted by: M K Ultra at May 19, 2019 09:16 PM (nxw5n)
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Emmie Oakley. I love it!! That nic will have me smiling for some time.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:16 PM (bmdz3)
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Has anyone here shot either the Cobra or King Cobra - the new ones, from Colt? Have read very good things about both.
As I'm in CA, neither is available to me, but in my case I am fortunate to have both an older King Cobra [pics thereof graciously featured by Weasel on one of the first gun threadz], and the Cobra's closest antecedent, the Magnum Carry.
Still curious if anyone in the Horde has tasted either flavor yet.
As I'm in CA, neither is available to me, but in my case I am fortunate to have both an older King Cobra [pics thereof graciously featured by Weasel on one of the first gun threadz], and the Cobra's closest antecedent, the Magnum Carry.
Still curious if anyone in the Horde has tasted either flavor yet.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 09:16 PM (QDnY+)
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Regarding the Five Eyes, with friends like these...
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 09:16 PM (w7KSn)
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Headspacing. T'would be a fine topic, Marse Weasel.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 09:14 PM (DMUuz)
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Now there's an idea. Might have to let that wait a bit tho, I probably stretched a lot of people's patience with the epic reloading series!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 09:14 PM (DMUuz)
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Now there's an idea. Might have to let that wait a bit tho, I probably stretched a lot of people's patience with the epic reloading series!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:18 PM (MVjcR)
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321 Has anyone here shot either the Cobra or King Cobra - the new ones, from Colt? Have read very good things about both.
As I'm in CA, neither is available to me, but in my case I am fortunate to have both an older King Cobra [pics thereof graciously featured by Weasel on one of the first gun threadz], and the Cobra's closest antecedent, the Magnum Carry.
Still curious if anyone in the Horde has tasted either flavor yet.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 09:16 PM (QDnY+)
I shot a King Cobra many moons ago. It was Colt quality back when that meant something. If you have an old one, say made in the 80's, it should be very, very nice. But honestly, I didn't shoot it any better than a simple S&W model 10. Just the way my hands grip revolvers.
As I'm in CA, neither is available to me, but in my case I am fortunate to have both an older King Cobra [pics thereof graciously featured by Weasel on one of the first gun threadz], and the Cobra's closest antecedent, the Magnum Carry.
Still curious if anyone in the Horde has tasted either flavor yet.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 09:16 PM (QDnY+)
I shot a King Cobra many moons ago. It was Colt quality back when that meant something. If you have an old one, say made in the 80's, it should be very, very nice. But honestly, I didn't shoot it any better than a simple S&W model 10. Just the way my hands grip revolvers.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:19 PM (xJa6I)
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312 I'll be in and out. Y'all have fun and thanks as always, Weasel.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 09:13 PM (EOEiY)
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You're very welcome!
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 09:13 PM (EOEiY)
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You're very welcome!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:19 PM (MVjcR)
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JTB at May 19, 2019 09:14 PM (bmdz3)
Well, this was a kit gun my friend put together. So who knows.
Well, this was a kit gun my friend put together. So who knows.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 09:19 PM (dC1N1)
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Ronster, A properly tuned flintlock with a decent lock should go off about as fast as a percussion gun. A delay usually means the vent hole is too small or there's too much powder in the pan.
Virtually all modern locks need some work out of the box, ranging from light tuning in the case of the better custom locks to extensive rework in the case of the not-so-great. A lock off a factory gun is often a piece of junk. Curiously, even low-end trade locks on originals tend to work very well indeed.
Percussion locks are a lot easier to make functional without a lot of handwork.
Virtually all modern locks need some work out of the box, ranging from light tuning in the case of the better custom locks to extensive rework in the case of the not-so-great. A lock off a factory gun is often a piece of junk. Curiously, even low-end trade locks on originals tend to work very well indeed.
Percussion locks are a lot easier to make functional without a lot of handwork.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 19, 2019 09:20 PM (bZ7mE)
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Topic suggestion:
Since so many morons and 'ettes are buying guns, how about 'Good first-timer double stack 9mms'?
Should be good for some flame wars as well as useful info.
Since so many morons and 'ettes are buying guns, how about 'Good first-timer double stack 9mms'?
Should be good for some flame wars as well as useful info.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:21 PM (xJa6I)
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306 "Weasel, Have you fired a flintlock before? They are habit forming.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:07 PM (bmdz3)
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No, but they sure look like fun!"
We'll have to correct this deprived condition. And yes, they are a LOT of fun.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:07 PM (bmdz3)
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No, but they sure look like fun!"
We'll have to correct this deprived condition. And yes, they are a LOT of fun.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:23 PM (bmdz3)
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And my initial reaction to the DailyMail story helpfully linked by the diligent JackStraw was like others' - the account doesn't take account of many material items and very likely connections long known to those closely following the UK tentacle of the Mega-Scandal. Additionally, the way the account describes
senior UK intel types taking the silly "dossier" seriously makes them look ridiculous in ways they don't even seem to comprehend.
senior UK intel types taking the silly "dossier" seriously makes them look ridiculous in ways they don't even seem to comprehend.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 09:23 PM (QDnY+)
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Since so many morons and 'ettes are buying guns, how about 'Good first-timer double stack 9mms'?
Should be good for some flame wars as well as useful info.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:21 PM (xJa6I)
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I could try that but truth be told I don't really keep up with all of the latest and greatest offerings. Not sure I will do it justice, but I can try it sometime. Thanks!
Since so many morons and 'ettes are buying guns, how about 'Good first-timer double stack 9mms'?
Should be good for some flame wars as well as useful info.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:21 PM (xJa6I)
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I could try that but truth be told I don't really keep up with all of the latest and greatest offerings. Not sure I will do it justice, but I can try it sometime. Thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:25 PM (MVjcR)
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GoT thread? Zero interest, if that much. The gun thread is too much fun.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:25 PM (bmdz3)
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GoT thread? Zero interest, if that much. The gun thread is too much fun.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:25 PM (bmdz3)
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Why thank you JTB. And someday I'd like to take you up on your offer!
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:25 PM (bmdz3)
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Why thank you JTB. And someday I'd like to take you up on your offer!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:27 PM (MVjcR)
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Virtually all modern locks need some work out of the box, ranging from light tuning in the case of the better custom locks to extensive rework in the case of the not-so-great. A lock off a factory gun is often a piece of junk. Curiously, even low-end trade locks on originals tend to work very well indeed.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 19, 2019 09:20 PM (bZ7mE)
Corollary: I bought a Traditions flintlock years ago, with the idea that I would buy a capable, bog-standard, unremarkable but functional example rather than buy a fancy one right off. Then, once I figure out what I like and don't like about the entry-level model, use the money I saved over buying an expensive one right away and put it into a better one, now that I know what I want in a nicer one.
Well it turns out that I want a gun that makes a shaTHOOM sound and a silly cloud of smoke after a perceptible lock time, and then punches big dumb holes in paper around 50-75 yards away with surprising accuracy for a primitive weapon with rudimentary sights. So I never upgraded, because I can't think of anything it doesn't do that I want it to. the wood looks more like dorm furniture than a work of art, but otherwise, mission accomplished.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 19, 2019 09:20 PM (bZ7mE)
Corollary: I bought a Traditions flintlock years ago, with the idea that I would buy a capable, bog-standard, unremarkable but functional example rather than buy a fancy one right off. Then, once I figure out what I like and don't like about the entry-level model, use the money I saved over buying an expensive one right away and put it into a better one, now that I know what I want in a nicer one.
Well it turns out that I want a gun that makes a shaTHOOM sound and a silly cloud of smoke after a perceptible lock time, and then punches big dumb holes in paper around 50-75 yards away with surprising accuracy for a primitive weapon with rudimentary sights. So I never upgraded, because I can't think of anything it doesn't do that I want it to. the wood looks more like dorm furniture than a work of art, but otherwise, mission accomplished.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:28 PM (t+qrx)
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Since so many morons and 'ettes are buying guns, how about 'Good first-timer double stack 9mms'?
Should be good for some flame wars as well as useful info.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:21 PM
Dood. One's first should be a 1911. This is known.
Now please, finish your beverage, have another or three, and then depart my lawn.
Should be good for some flame wars as well as useful info.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:21 PM
Dood. One's first should be a 1911. This is known.
Now please, finish your beverage, have another or three, and then depart my lawn.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 09:28 PM (DMUuz)
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Duncanthrax, what makes a 1911 special?
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:30 PM (4HMW8)
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Since so many morons and 'ettes are buying guns, how about 'Good first-timer double stack 9mms'?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:21 PM
C96 supremacy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:21 PM
C96 supremacy.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:31 PM (t+qrx)
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Give me at least a parts diagram and I can usually get an assembly back together and working.
Sometimes a more detailed diagram is needed as to special techniques for disassembly/assembly.
There's a couple firearms I have that without some instructions how they come apart and how they go back together is NOT intuitive.
I've been taking stuff apart to fix for about 60 years. My father was a combo electrician and appliance repair and I learned a lot from him, then 6 years Navy. My working career has always had some component of troubleshooting/repair/assembly within it at some stage.
Strangely enough I don't really care for jigsaw puzzles.
Sometimes a more detailed diagram is needed as to special techniques for disassembly/assembly.
There's a couple firearms I have that without some instructions how they come apart and how they go back together is NOT intuitive.
I've been taking stuff apart to fix for about 60 years. My father was a combo electrician and appliance repair and I learned a lot from him, then 6 years Navy. My working career has always had some component of troubleshooting/repair/assembly within it at some stage.
Strangely enough I don't really care for jigsaw puzzles.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 19, 2019 09:32 PM (D4OO0)
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Corollary: I bought a Traditions flintlock years ago, with the idea that I would buy a capable, bog-standard, unremarkable but functional example rather than buy a fancy one right off. Then, once I figure out what I like and don't like about the entry-level model, use the money I saved over buying an expensive one right away and put it into a better one, now that I know what I want in a nicer one.
Well it turns out that I want a gun that makes a shaTHOOM sound and a silly cloud of smoke after a perceptible lock time, and then punches big dumb holes in paper around 50-75 yards away with surprising accuracy for a primitive weapon with rudimentary sights. So I never upgraded, because I can't think of anything it doesn't do that I want it to. the wood looks more like dorm furniture than a work of art, but otherwise, mission accomplished.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:28 PM (t+qrx)
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That sounds like what I'm looking for !!
Well it turns out that I want a gun that makes a shaTHOOM sound and a silly cloud of smoke after a perceptible lock time, and then punches big dumb holes in paper around 50-75 yards away with surprising accuracy for a primitive weapon with rudimentary sights. So I never upgraded, because I can't think of anything it doesn't do that I want it to. the wood looks more like dorm furniture than a work of art, but otherwise, mission accomplished.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 09:28 PM (t+qrx)
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That sounds like what I'm looking for !!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:34 PM (MVjcR)
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327 ... "Virtually all modern locks need some work out of the box, ranging from light tuning in the case of the better custom locks to extensive rework in the case of the not-so-great. A lock off a factory gun is often a piece of junk."
Grey Fox, I agree. But sometimes you get lucky. My Lyman Great Plains Rifle has an excellent lock, especially for a production gun. I also have an old Traditions flinter. Oddly, given their reputation for flintlocks, it sparks well and is almost as fast as the GPR.
Grey Fox, I agree. But sometimes you get lucky. My Lyman Great Plains Rifle has an excellent lock, especially for a production gun. I also have an old Traditions flinter. Oddly, given their reputation for flintlocks, it sparks well and is almost as fast as the GPR.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:35 PM (bmdz3)
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Appropos of nothing - but gunzzzz!, so, on-topic - early in May, watching the Russian Victory Day parades on russki TV, I was reminded they use SKS's for the parade role. Nice blonde stocks, white leather slings. Think that was the last Russian service rifle with a wood stock - to me, always the best for parade use.
In the US, M1 Garands are standard for parade and "show" drill - correct?
Wonder if any other major countries use wood-stocked rifles in this role [think Japan and South Korea also use M1s].
Related - any Moron who hasn't had the chance to see the Marines' "evening parade" at the Commandant's quarters/barracks @ Eighth and I in DC, do it. Believe it runs June-September. They do other appearances elsewhere, but I think there's nothing like the whole package they do at the barracks.
In the US, M1 Garands are standard for parade and "show" drill - correct?
Wonder if any other major countries use wood-stocked rifles in this role [think Japan and South Korea also use M1s].
Related - any Moron who hasn't had the chance to see the Marines' "evening parade" at the Commandant's quarters/barracks @ Eighth and I in DC, do it. Believe it runs June-September. They do other appearances elsewhere, but I think there's nothing like the whole package they do at the barracks.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 09:35 PM (QDnY+)
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Mark!
You did not ask me for permission before leaving for Canada land?
How am I going to pop the cherry on my new Glock without you?
You did not ask me for permission before leaving for Canada land?
How am I going to pop the cherry on my new Glock without you?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 09:40 PM (PkVlr)
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:40 PM (MVjcR)
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Duncanthrax, what makes a 1911 special?
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:30 PM
Aw, heck. Sadly, Emmie, I don't have time to expound at length on the pros (and cons) of the 1911 right now. Grip angle, ergonomics, and in .45 ACP, a superb pistol cartridge.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:30 PM
Aw, heck. Sadly, Emmie, I don't have time to expound at length on the pros (and cons) of the 1911 right now. Grip angle, ergonomics, and in .45 ACP, a superb pistol cartridge.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 09:42 PM (DMUuz)
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She belongs in an unmarked grave, having been previously hung by the neck until dead, dead, dead.
as all traitors should be.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 09:10 PM (Z+IKu)
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FTFY!
as all traitors should be.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 09:10 PM (Z+IKu)
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FTFY!
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 09:42 PM (MasTK)
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On Johnny Carson, it was six Marines it think, doing a drill with arms. I've never seen anything like it sense. It was fantastic.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 09:44 PM (Hg4NE)
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Perhaps next week, if you're around Emmie? Nice target, BTW!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 09:45 PM (DMUuz)
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Duncanthrax, what makes a 1911 special?
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:30 PM
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John Moses Browning (PBUH)
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:30 PM
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John Moses Browning (PBUH)
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:45 PM (MVjcR)
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L and R, which make excellent flintlocks, offer drop in replacements for a number of older (CVA) and lower price guns. Even with the replacement cost of the lock, it could still be cheaper than some of the higher end (i.e., fancier) flinters.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:45 PM (bmdz3)
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Thank you, Duncanthrax. Next time is fine.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:47 PM (4HMW8)
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342 Mark!
You did not ask me for permission before leaving for Canada land?
How am I going to pop the cherry on my new Glock without you?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 09:40 PM (PkVlr)
You don't need me to pop a cherry.
You'll be fine.
We can shoot together week after the holiday
You did not ask me for permission before leaving for Canada land?
How am I going to pop the cherry on my new Glock without you?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 09:40 PM (PkVlr)
You don't need me to pop a cherry.
You'll be fine.
We can shoot together week after the holiday
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:48 PM (xJa6I)
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OK everyone - before the ONT comes along, thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:50 PM (MVjcR)
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Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:30 PM (4HMW
Nurse can chime in here, too, as she shoots a 1911 better than I do.
But the trigger pull is short and sharp, the weight of the pistol makes the .45 more of a 'push' recoil impulse rather than a 'snap' like a 9mm or a .40. The grip safety is also nice for new gun users.
Nurse can chime in here, too, as she shoots a 1911 better than I do.
But the trigger pull is short and sharp, the weight of the pistol makes the .45 more of a 'push' recoil impulse rather than a 'snap' like a 9mm or a .40. The grip safety is also nice for new gun users.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 19, 2019 09:50 PM (xJa6I)
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Thanks again, Weasel. These gun threads are such a pleasant way to end the weekend.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:52 PM (bmdz3)
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Thanks again, Weasel. These gun threads are such a pleasant way to end the weekend.
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:52 PM (bmdz3)
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Thanks JTB - but if it weren't for you all it would just be me talking to myself!
Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:52 PM (bmdz3)
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Thanks JTB - but if it weren't for you all it would just be me talking to myself!
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 09:53 PM (MVjcR)
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Thanks for the thread, and thanks, especially, for the archive. I skimmed the reloading threads, but now have been informed by She Who Must Be Obeyed that reloading will become my new hobby.
Posted by: stonecutter at May 19, 2019 09:58 PM (Bfr22)
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Duncanthrax, what makes a 1911 special?
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:30 PM
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it was designed by John Moses Browning (PBUH) for one.
it's chambered in 45ACP, for another.
it's robust, reliable, often imitated, but never equaled and, at my house, i'm lucky that HRH didn't immediately fall in love with mine, but took the long way around: Glock, MandP, Hi-Power, Para Ord Warthog, Kimber to get to the 1911 frame.
otherwise i'd be SOL.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:30 PM
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it was designed by John Moses Browning (PBUH) for one.
it's chambered in 45ACP, for another.
it's robust, reliable, often imitated, but never equaled and, at my house, i'm lucky that HRH didn't immediately fall in love with mine, but took the long way around: Glock, MandP, Hi-Power, Para Ord Warthog, Kimber to get to the 1911 frame.
otherwise i'd be SOL.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 10:18 PM (MasTK)
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have the hands of a ten-year-old.
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:03 PM (4HMW
If you really do have tiny hands, the Kahr CW 380 and CT 380 are truly diminutive. (Also, if you get the "mag guts" replacement spring kit you get an extra round in the magazines. From 6 to 7 in the flush fit and 7-8 in the extended/CT sized magazine.)
The Browning 1911-380 is also an okay option for 1911 type of pistol.
But check out the Colt defender in 45acp, it's a little bigger but it is a very nice low recoiling piss compared to others of the same size. ( I know of a few 5'-ish women who love them and shoot them better than anything else.)
Posted by: Emmie Oakley at May 19, 2019 09:03 PM (4HMW
If you really do have tiny hands, the Kahr CW 380 and CT 380 are truly diminutive. (Also, if you get the "mag guts" replacement spring kit you get an extra round in the magazines. From 6 to 7 in the flush fit and 7-8 in the extended/CT sized magazine.)
The Browning 1911-380 is also an okay option for 1911 type of pistol.
But check out the Colt defender in 45acp, it's a little bigger but it is a very nice low recoiling piss compared to others of the same size. ( I know of a few 5'-ish women who love them and shoot them better than anything else.)
Posted by: Ratus at May 19, 2019 11:05 PM (oi/mz)
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Also, check out some YouTube videos on any of the pistols mentioned in this post.
Posted by: Ratus at May 19, 2019 11:07 PM (oi/mz)
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That's " ...low recoiling pistol compared..."
Posted by: Ratus at May 19, 2019 11:08 PM (oi/mz)
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Additionally, the way the account describes
senior UK intel types taking the silly "dossier" seriously makes them look ridiculous in ways they don't even seem to comprehend.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 09:23 PM (QDnY+)
And the leftard reporter talks about Steele "uncovering" these allegations. That must be a Brit euphemism for "pulled out of his ass".
senior UK intel types taking the silly "dossier" seriously makes them look ridiculous in ways they don't even seem to comprehend.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 09:23 PM (QDnY+)
And the leftard reporter talks about Steele "uncovering" these allegations. That must be a Brit euphemism for "pulled out of his ass".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 11:56 PM (7njPr)
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Didn't see the Mayor Pete FOX thingy, but did anyone call him out for crapping all over Thomas Jefferson?
Didn't think so.
F*** yourself Mayor Pete
Didn't think so.
F*** yourself Mayor Pete
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 20, 2019 12:19 AM (aiCMN)
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So, do I register as 3rd down?
Posted by: Cold Civil War at May 20, 2019 04:38 AM (Z2PYk)
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Taught myself to detail-strip a P226. On Saturday competed (badly) in a PRS match. Spent most of Sunday in my reloading space. Training tonight.
Posted by: Richard at May 20, 2019 07:49 AM (hUZo5)
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