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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 05-18-2019 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Pacing

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Here's a concept in storytelling that is super important to some people, but not to me. And because it's not that important to me, I kind of don't get it.

Well, I get what it is and have a rough idea of how to measure it, but I don't get why it's important. It's really a taste thing, but when people throw it up in a critique ("The movie was poorly paced" or "inconsistently paced"), they seem to include it as some sort of objective measure of quality. And I'd disagree vehemently. Its existence is objective, but its importance is (almost) purely subjective.


What is It?

Think back to a couple of years ago when I first started writing these posts and I outlined my model of storytelling, which was based on four major elements of narrative: character, plot, style, and theme. All stories contain all four elements but in different amounts, and all members of the audience have their own priorities. Personally, the single element that's most important to me is theme, but, I've learned, most people seem to prioritize plot.

I think if you were to make a Venn diagram of people who consider pacing and plot to be important, you'd get a circle. Plot is about the actions of a story, and those who like this element of narrative over the others want to see the plot move. They don't want to spend time with a single plot point as other elements get addressed, they'd rather see the next plot point.

So, what is pacing, then? It's the movement of the story from one point to another. Is that plot points? Not necessarily, but usually.


Slow Movies

I like to use the movie Andrei Rublev as my near satirical example of a slowly paced movie. If I were to ever formalize my 11-20 of all time movies, it would appear on it. It's one of seven movies by the Soviet filmmaker Andrei Tarkovsky (the co-screenwriter was another Andrei, Andrei Konchalovsky), and it's about the Russian icon painter. We never see him paint a thing. He wanders around medieval Russia, observing the plight of the common man and life in the era. The last forty minutes or so are about the casting of a church bell. And then we get color images of Rublev's work.

It's really slow.

And I think it's one of the greatest films ever made.
In addition, it's a movie I almost never recommend. In fact, I don't think I've ever recommended it because I know people are hard wired to not like these kinds of films. Hollywood has never made movies like it for mass consumption, and most people in America grow up on Hollywood entertainments. The basic filmic vocabulary of something like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and even Casablanca is vastly different from films made by Malick, Melville, or Tarkovsky. They're all part of the same medium but use vastly different methods to organize the sights and sounds to tell their stories.


Preferences

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As I said earlier, the importance of pacing is largely subjective. However, I am happy to admit that it is important in certain circumstances.

There are types of stories that helped by faster paces. Action movies, in particular, feel like a genre that is generally aided by a faster pace. They don't need to be break neck from beginning to end, but stopping the film for half an hour to deal with character might break up the feel of the film enough to distract from the action at hand. Taking a 45-minute scenic tour of the countryside might work in a drama, but in the middle of a thriller it could cause unnecessary boredom on the part of the audience.

I wouldn't want to write off a film that works like that completely (Independence Day has no action for a solid 30 minutes between its second and third acts), but I think it's safe to say that audiences don't want to spend a long time watching people talk about their feelings in the middle of their exciting action spectaculars. It's a reasonable request, I think.


Fast Movies

The one movie that jumps to mind first when talking about fast pacing is the German film Run Lola Run. It's breakneck.

Part of it is editing. One might call it over-edited. Never using 1 shot when 3 will do, which implies a sense of movement that the single shot wouldn't accomplish on its own.

The other part is the fact that it tells the same story three times, in three different ways, in a short 82 minutes. Lola's boyfriend has lost 100.000 marks for his gangster boss and needs to retrieve it or replace it in 20 minutes. He calls Lola who screams and then, well, runs. She follows through on three different possible paths. The first leads to an unsuccessful grocery store robbery, the second leads to a bank robbery, and the third leads to a pair of lucky runs at roulette that gets the 100.000 marks.

I'm not the biggest fan, but it's definitely a fun movie that clips along nicely. There are implications of themes around determinism, but the movie never has the time to explore them in any meaningful way.

But, the important thing, in regards to this post, is that it's fast. It speeds along to tell its small story in three interesting ways and wraps it up. Not a bad way to spend 82 minutes.


Marketing Lies

Advertisements lie to you. They do it all the time. Marketers will say anything to get you to buy a product, and a movie ticket is no different.

Remember the movie Drive? Here's the trailer:

That looks like a mostly typical action movie, doesn't it? Well, the movie isn't like that, at all. Despite using only images from the movie itself, the marketer who made that trailer created something that looks more like a Fast and Furious movie than a moody, European styled, introspective movie (where Christina Hendrick's head gets all splodded up). The disparity was so bad that a Michigan woman filed a lawsuit against the distributor (it got tossed in 2012). And you thought you were mad about a trailer that lied to you, huh?

This comes down to the idea of expectations. A trailer creates a set of expectations around the movie after the movie has been written, filmed, and edited. Is it the movie's fault that the studio lied about what the movie is? Should a movie be held to account for something that was entirely out of its hands?

Well, as the consumer who walked into Drive expecting a fast, thrilling ride and instead getting something slow and meditative (with punches of extreme violence), who else do you have to blame? The marketer isn't there to yell at. The trailer isn't playing to you. The movie is, and it's not what you expected.


Taking What the Movie Gives You

Half the time I start a movie, I've completely forgotten what it's about when I pop it in, especially when it's a Netflix DVD. I placed that DVD on my queue roughly 4 years ago. I know the title, but I barely know what its genre is, or what the summary on the envelope says. Often, I don't even read the summary and just pop the film in. There was something about this movie that got me to put it in my queue at some point, so that's good enough, I suppose. I have no preconceived notions about what the movie should be, because I have little to no idea what it is at all.

I think this practice has conditioned me to expect nothing from a movie once it starts. Since I barely know what I'm getting into, I'm open to whatever it could end up being. Combine that with the fact that my narrative priorities are out of line with most people who consider pacing to be important, and you have a good mix for an audience willing to follow a slow movie as it spends time wandering the Russian countryside as a painter doesn't paint.

It's all about preferences. Are you wrong because you hear the name Tarkovsky and keel over in pain? Not at all. One of the most knowledgeable men I've ever met in the arena of movies found Tarkovsky boring (that would be Stephen Prince, the film scholar who's written a book or two about Kurosawa). I can think of several people in these glorious comments who find Malick unbearable (for several reasons). I've tried to get people into Bergman and they've hated me afterwards.

The thing is, I'm going to play the advocate for a moment. Slow movies can be wonderful. Slow doesn’t mean bad or boring. If you're not used to it, that doesn't mean that you can't get into it. You need some kind of gateway before you try Andrei Rublev. Might I suggest something like Solaris, by Soderbergh of course.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
A Dog's Journey

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Prime Cut

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:
Manon des Sources (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review Poster blurb: "This is the better half of the whole story, but it couldn’t exist without the first." ["Library"]
Beowulf (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) Full Review "So, what we end up having isn’t so much an adaptation of Beowulf, but an adaptation of a master’s thesis on Beowulf." [Personal Collection]
The Virgin Spring (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "This has long been my favorite Bergman, and now that I’m in the middle of the thirty-nine films of the Criterion boxset, I think I can begin to understand why." [Personal Collection]
The Silence (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "That silence (not absence) frustrates Bergman. He wants to hear from God, but he finds God’s vessels on earth (the Church in particular) to be empty." [Personal Collection]
Winter Light (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "These movies are intelligent, touching, and difficult, but they are also extremely rewarding to the patient viewer willing to give the films a chance." [Personal Collection]
Pathfinder (Netflix Rating 1/5 | Quality Rating 0.5/4) Full Review "What an ugly movie." [Netflix DVD]
The Seventh Seal (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) Full Review "Along the way, as Block continues his game with Death, tricking and being tricked himself on the board, we see the little lives of these people. Jons is the most entertaining character because his nihilism is delivered so drily and with such wit that he’s a joy just to watch." [Personal Collection]
Soy Cuba (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It’s a very good movie, all done in the service to one of humanity’s great evil regimes. Your mileage may vary." ["Library"]


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Posted by: OregonMuse at 07:58 PM




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Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 07:59 PM (zZbCU)

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 07:59 PM (zZbCU)


Heh. Had to fix a typo.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:00 PM (b7IdW)

3 I see Cold Blue is only playing here at 7:30 on Thursday

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (BbGew)

4 2 1 Bolded...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 07:59 PM (zZbCU)

Heh. Had to fix a typo.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:00 PM (b7IdW)

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Probably my bad. Sorry.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (zZbCU)

5 Winter Light is my favorite Bergman movie.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (b7IdW)

6 Probably my bad. Sorry.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (zZbCU)


Actually, it wasn't. It was mine. I typo-ed an early close-bold tag.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:02 PM (b7IdW)

7 Most Malick sucks to me because the pacing is way too slow, to the point that it's indulgent to me, not artistic. FFS, he did Days of Heaven in 90 minutes and it's his best.

Kubrick's early flicks The Killing and Paths of Glory are tight as drums. Some have issue with 2001 because it's slow (I don't).

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:03 PM (1UZdv)

8 I think it's very noticeable that movies from 30 years ago and more are much slower paced than movies today have gotten, even action movies. And I find it makes the story telling much more intense and dramatic - often frenetic, constant action is used as a disguise to hide the reality that the plot is just thin.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (V2Yro)

9 Yay, movie thread!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (kQs4Y)

10 Dances with Wolves was incredibly slow and boring.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (PUmDY)

11 I guess the pacing is my problem with Joan of Arc, but I couldn't really put it into words until now, after I just read your essay tonight.

Thanks.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:06 PM (xIKXj)

12 Lola is hot though in a hood rat kinda way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 08:06 PM (Z+IKu)

13 On the advice of the RLM guys I rented “Under the Silver Lake”, from the guy who made “It Follows”. It is available on Amazon.

Odd little flick about obsession, paranoia, and hidden meaning in seedy L.A. A scruffy Andrew Garfield goes down the conspiracy rabbit hole after his cute apartment neighbor disappears. Lynchian with lots of refs to old Hollywood, it dares to employ obvious mat paintings, and it uses a lush score straight out of a Hitchcock movie.

I’m still not sure how I feel about it, It’s interesting, if slo-o-o-ow, but it’s constantly building toward something. It’s a good sweatpants-and-a-beer movie; not sure if I would waste a trip to a movie theater to see it (was it even distributed to theaters?).

Now I’m watching “Mid90s”, another film by the group A24. I tend to like their movies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:06 PM (kQs4Y)

14 I can handle a slow paced movie if the dialogue is interesting, but I would say I am in the larger group that likes a medium or faster pace.

I remember taking my kids to see The Secret Life of Pets and they were expecting what was in the trailer. Sad disappointment. Boring.
And finally, trailers should save some of the best jokes for the movie, but they rarely do so they aren't as funny as when you see them in the film.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 08:08 PM (r+sAi)

15 5 Winter Light is my favorite Bergman movie.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:01 PM (b7IdW)

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It's a great one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:08 PM (zZbCU)

16 The one movie that jumps to mind first when talking about fast pacing is the German film Run Lola Run. It's breakneck.



That is a good movie. It shows how one little thing can change the entire course of events and how lives are changed by it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 18, 2019 08:08 PM (IINHo)

17 The slow pace of Solaris works because it forces you to sit there and pick apart the things the movie is asking.

Posted by: Australian Voter at May 18, 2019 08:09 PM (oVJmc)

18 Dances with Wolves was incredibly slow and boring.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (PUmDY)


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It takes hours if you're really serious about using every part of the buffalo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 08:09 PM (4knXT)

19 Castaway was very slow.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:10 PM (PUmDY)

20 I've seen Run Lola Run but couldn't tell you what it was about.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:10 PM (BbGew)

21 20 I've seen Run Lola Run but couldn't tell you what it was about.
Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:10 PM (BbGew

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A girl named Lola. She runs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:10 PM (zZbCU)

22 I suspect that our culture generally despises slow paced movies today because they ask the audience to think, rather than just react and feel.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:11 PM (V2Yro)

23 I really liked Run Lola Run. That aside, you can usually tell a Euro flick from a Hollywood flick because the Euro films have long pauses. If you watch an 80s/90s film an the camera focuses on a flower for more than a few seconds, it is likely Euro. Even the great Once Upon a Time in the West had that long scene with Jack Elam and the fly You would never see that out of Hollyweird.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:11 PM (n13/j)

24 I wouldn't want to write off a film that works like that completely (Independence Day has no action for a solid 30 minutes between its second and third acts), but I think it's safe to say that audiences don't want to spend a long time watching people talk about their feelings in the middle of their exciting action spectaculars.



The first half an hour of The Longest Day was just talking. The Allies about should they go, the Germans where and when the Allies will attack. The French about who they'll surrender to. Then all hell break loose. Of course movies were made differently then and audiences were different too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 18, 2019 08:11 PM (IINHo)

25 Nostalgia by Tarkovsky is brutally slow.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 18, 2019 08:11 PM (y7DUB)

26 Watched Full Metal Jacket last night and made me think of new movie category.

Movies that first or second half was really good and the other was half meh or bad.

The other one's that come to mind are

Stripes
Porky's

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:12 PM (2DOZq)

27 The Shawshank Redemption has a leisurely pace that was perfect for unreeling a character-based story. It never got tedious. IMO It's the gold standard of cinematic storytelling.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (4knXT)

28 John Wick 3 is balletic action with great visuals. Little plot, except to set-up John Wick 4.

Wick doesn't understand overkill. He relishes in it.

Saw it in Dolby. Great sound

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (1UZdv)

29 A girl named Lola. She runs."

Are you sure about that?

Well I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
Lo lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (V2Yro)

30 @14 And finally, trailers should save some of the best jokes for the movie, but they rarely do so they aren't as funny as when you see them in the film.

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There was an episode of Stargate SG-1 in which the cast tossed around ideas for a movie that would be the follow-up to an in-setting TV series. One of the ideas mentioned was to have the surprise appearance of a long-absent cast member from the in-setting TV series. The SG-1 cast then dismissed the idea, because the surprise would be spoiled in the trailers.

As it turns out, that episode had the surprise appearance of a cast member who hadn't been seen in a while (Richard Dean Anderson). And that surprise appearance was spoiled by the ad for that particular episode.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (Fp6vo)

31 Movies that first or second half was really good and the other was half meh or bad.

Heathers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (y7DUB)

32 Having given this a good 15 seconds of thought, I think my favorite type of pacing is a movie that begins slowly but like a freight train rolling down hill it gets faster and faster until in the final real it jumps the tracks and crashes into huge storage tanks at a refinery and there's a huge explosion!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 08:14 PM (+y/Ru)

33 Couple of weeks ago was slowly getting to see Birth of a Nation but after a few nights stopped, my YouTube will start where I left off if I get back to it.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:14 PM (BbGew)

34 I did not read any prior posts before posting. Now that's a coincidence.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:14 PM (2DOZq)

35 26 Saving Private Ryan

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:15 PM (BbGew)

36 Even the great Once Upon a Time in the West had that long scene with Jack Elam and the fly You would never see that out of Hollyweird.

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Well, they would've had to pay a union fly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 08:15 PM (+y/Ru)

37 36 Even the great Once Upon a Time in the West had that long scene with Jack Elam and the fly You would never see that out of Hollyweird.

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Well, they would've had to pay a union fly.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 08:15 PM (+y/Ru

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Free trade honey on the guy's beard.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (zZbCU)

38 Recently saw "A Fortunate Man" on netflix. Interesting but depressing.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (r+sAi)

39 " Castaway was very slow."

It was meant to give you the feeling of being marooned.

Like Lawrence of Arabia makes you feel the vast, arid desert.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (1UZdv)

40 35 I'd love to see that in a theater but would leave after 35 minutes.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (BbGew)

41 My favorite part of "Open Range was before the action starts, particularly the scene setting first part of the film.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:17 PM (n13/j)

42 I am so fed up with movies.

I saw where "they" are remaking Jacob's Ladder. You couldn't possibly make that movie better than it already is, which I believe is great. YMMV of course.

Daughter (11) wanted to see Avengers Yawn Game today so we went to that. Three hours of Meh bordering on hypnotizing (with the apparent goal being death by ennui).

I would like to see an original script for a decent story with interesting characters, plot and some action.

NOT another superhero movie or a reboot/remake.

Is that really so difficult, Hollywood?

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (smc0A)

43 Movies that first or second half was really good and the other was half meh or bad.

Event Horizon.

Posted by: Australian Voter at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (oVJmc)

44 Drive is a movie you're going to either love or hate. I loved it.

There Will Be Blood would be my vote for worst paced movie ever.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (2DOZq)

45 Castaway was very slow."



It was meant to give you the feeling of being marooned.



Like Lawrence of Arabia makes you feel the vast, arid desert.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:16 PM (1UZdv)

but was it really that good? It didn't stick with me but maybe it did with others.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (n13/j)

46 Lola seems nice.

Posted by: Eromero at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (qBNEP)

47 Once Upon a Time in America was overly slow and long.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (PUmDY)

48 Castaway was very slow.
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I thought it was brilliant how they contrasted the breakneck pace of his modern life, measured down to the second, with his endless days on the tropical island that seemed to be almost outside the timestream.

They cut to a point years in the future, and he has an almost flat, animal expression, and then suddenly, a spark is lit, his eyes focus and he starts scheming for a way to escape.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (kQs4Y)

49 S-l-o-w paced movie: The Arrival
Super fat: District B13

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (W+vEI)

50 There was an episode of Stargate SG-1 in which the cast tossed around ideas for a movie that would be the follow-up to an in-setting TV series. One of the ideas mentioned was to have the surprise appearance of a long-absent cast member from the in-setting TV series. The SG-1 cast then dismissed the idea, because the surprise would be spoiled in the trailers.

As it turns out, that episode had the surprise appearance of a cast member who hadn't been seen in a while (Richard Dean Anderson). And that surprise appearance was spoiled by the ad for that particular episode.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:13 PM (Fp6vo)

I recently watched again the 200th Episode - that is one of the most hilarious episodes in any sci-fi series ever, and it is basically just one in-joke after another. At one point, they're talking about copying other popular shows, and they describe "Farscape" which both Ben Browder and Claudia Black had been in, and end that segment with "naah, nobody ever heard of that." (which was always the knock on Farscape, great show that nobody ever heard of)

And then the coup de grace was when they do Marionettes, and they walk through the Gate, and all their strings are cut...

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (V2Yro)

51 Saving Private Ryan is three movies in one. The first better than the second, the second better than the third.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (1UZdv)

52 Manon des Sources - "This is the better half of the whole story, but it couldn't exist without the first."

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After watching both Jean de Fleuret and Manon of the Spring, my observation was that the second film was clearly made to keep you from slitting your wrists after watching the first one.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:20 PM (Fp6vo)

53 Jaws was two movies for sure, both great.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:20 PM (n13/j)

54 52 Manon des Sources - "This is the better half of the whole story, but it couldn't exist without the first."

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After watching both Jean de Fleuret and Manon of the Spring, my observation was that the second film was clearly made to keep you from slitting your wrists after watching the first one.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:20 PM (Fp6vo

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From what I understand, the original author wanted to tell the second half, but just kept expanding the first until it became its own story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:22 PM (zZbCU)

55 from Jean de Fleuret: "I'm not crying! My eyes are crying!"

I've never forgotten that

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:22 PM (xIKXj)

56 Also Euro movies have actual ugly people. Hollywood films have all good looking people but pick one or two for bad make up to play homely. A great Brit film that has actual realistic looking people is "Secrets and Lies". The Spaghetti Westerns had all kinds of not so handsome folk.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:23 PM (n13/j)

57 If I like a slower move it must have beautiful cinematography. It must be big, like "Lawrence of Arabia" or "Doctor Zhivago". A good score doesn't hurt either. Might add "2001 a Space Odyssey" as well.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 18, 2019 08:24 PM (xNAv5)

58 The Deer Hunter was also three movies . I liked the one in the middle.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:24 PM (2DOZq)

59 I've been on a bit of a super hero movie binge. In the last few weeks I've watched Wonder Woman, the two Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man 2 and Green Lantern.
The latter sucked. I liked WW and the Guardian movies because of the light edge they had. I could watch Gal Gadot's face endlessly.
Scarlett Johansson, in Iron Man 2 had a somewhat nicer ass than Brie Larson.
Green Lantern sucked.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 08:25 PM (JgA4k)

60 Green Lantern sucked.
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A running joke in the Deadpool movies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:26 PM (kQs4Y)

61 Anyone see the movie Everybody Dies ?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:26 PM (2DOZq)

62 @54 From what I understand, the original author wanted to tell the second half, but just kept expanding the first until it became its own story.

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Sounds reasonable. As OM noted above, you can't really watch the second movie without watching the first one. Well, you could. But it wouldn't have anywhere near the same level of impact if you hadn't seen Jean first.

Unfortunately, that means that the first movie is downright painful to watch because of how depressing it is.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (Fp6vo)

63 10
Dances with Wolves was incredibly slow and boring.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:04 PM (PUmDY)

I loved the first part. It went downhill with the Indians are one with nature/Americans dumb and horrible second act.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (n13/j)

64 "I could watch Gal Gadot's face endlessly"

There's a scene in WW where she gushes over a baby. I'd have married her on the spot.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (1UZdv)

65 Here's a concept in storytelling that is super important to some
people, but not to me. And because it's not that important to me, I kind
of don't get it.

Well, I get what it is and have a rough idea of how to measure it, but I
don't get why it's important. It's really a taste thing, but when
people throw it up in a critique ("The movie was poorly paced" or
"inconsistently paced"), they seem to include it as some sort of
objective measure of quality. And I'd disagree vehemently. Its existence
is objective, but its importance is (almost) purely subjective.
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I assume whoever wrote this is not a musician.

This is because musicians understand the concept of tempo, which is the speed at which the composition is supposed to be played. This applies to all music, and it refers to whether or not it is moving at the right speed.

A piece that is being played too fast is called "rushing" while one played too slowly is "dragging."

It is possible to :"rush" an up-tempo march and "drag" a slow, contemplative dirge.

What's really bad is when you drag a march and rush a dirge.

In movies, pacing is the same thing. You can rush an already fast-paced film and drag a slow one.

Hope that clears it up.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (cfSRQ)

66 I much prefer "How the West was Won" to "Once Upon a Time in the West"

more pioneers, history, love. more of a family movie

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (xIKXj)

67 >>Also Euro movies have actual ugly people. Hollywood films have all good looking people but pick one or two for bad make up to play homely.

They also have regular-looking homes.
This is especially jarring when Hollywood remakes a foreign film. In "Mostly Martha" the lead lives in a 1 bedroom apartment and sleeps on the couch when she has to take care of her niece. In the Catherine Zeta Jones version, she lives in this yuge loft and just plops the niece in her own instant-princess room w/about 100 stuffed animals and toys. Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 08:28 PM (W+vEI)

68 Movies that first or second half was really good and the other was half meh or bad.-----------
Baby Driver. Great setup, meh rest

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 08:28 PM (BRgHt)

69 Paul Thomas Anderson can make some slow long movies.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:28 PM (PUmDY)

70 62 @54 From what I understand, the original author wanted to tell the second half, but just kept expanding the first until it became its own story.

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Sounds reasonable. As OM noted above, you can't really watch the second movie without watching the first one. Well, you could. But it wouldn't have anywhere near the same level of impact if you hadn't seen Jean first.

Unfortunately, that means that the first movie is downright painful to watch because of how depressing it is.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (Fp6vo

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Yes...OM said it...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:29 PM (zZbCU)

71 I've started watching a Filipino movie on Netflix. Really. It's about a female assassin.
The women are all hot, but the movie defines cheesy.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 08:29 PM (JgA4k)

72 Buttboy wants to get rid of all things Jefferson.

Isn't T Jefferson's mug on the two dollar bill ???

just sayin

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (DPjeO)

73 My two favorite American remake of European films were Let the Right One In and Point of No Return.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (2DOZq)

74 I'd put 2001 in the slow movies, very slow movies.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (BbGew)

75 Movie You Love That Everyone Else Hates

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 08:31 PM (BRgHt)

76 66 I much prefer "How the West was Won" to "Once Upon a Time in the West"

more pioneers, history, love. more of a family movie
Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:27 PM (xIKXj)

Which one has Claudia Cardinale? She looks nice.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 08:32 PM (JgA4k)

77 >>Movie You Love That Everyone Else Hates



Heh, easy: World War Z.
Bring on the hate!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 08:33 PM (W+vEI)

78 Movie You Love That Everyone Else Hates
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Brain Candy

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:34 PM (kQs4Y)

79 Buttboy wants to get rid of all things Jefferson.
Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (DPjeO)

What did I do? First my son marries a zebra and now this.

Weezy!.....

Posted by: Zombie George Jefferson at May 18, 2019 08:34 PM (Z+IKu)

80 57
If I like a slower move it must have beautiful cinematography. It must
be big, like "Lawrence of Arabia" or "Doctor Zhivago". A good score
doesn't hurt either. Might add "2001 a Space Odyssey" as well.


Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 18, 2019 08:24 PM (xNAv5)

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So what you're saying is that you like the film equivalent of classical music with rich and varied themes within them. You don't mind if it's longer than say a Sousa march, so long as it keeps you interested.

That's what I mean by tempo and pacing.

When I purchase classical music, I pay close attention to the time on each track because that tells me how fast (or slow) the conductor chose to take it. I once saw a recording of the 1812 Overture that was north of 15 minutes. Must have really dragged.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:34 PM (cfSRQ)

81 Teem, that would be 'Once."

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:35 PM (xIKXj)

82 "Hud " was on the other night

IMO, almost a perfect movie

And being raised on east TX ranch from 1951 to 1969, I found it quite accurate

My uncle JW died in 2005 at 88 , with a rag top caddy and a girlfriend.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (DPjeO)

83 I don't think Kubrick did a not slow movie besides maybe Ben Hur. Hmmm, much like PTA.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (PUmDY)

84 In movies, pacing is the same thing. You can rush an already fast-paced film and drag a slow one.

Hope that clears it up.



Posted by: A.H. Lloyd
And dynamics. Pace can't just be speed.

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (gO7fe)

85 73
My two favorite American remake of European films were Let the Right One In and Point of No Return.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:30 PM (2DOZq)

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The problem with Le Femme Nikita is that France doesn't have a death penalty. So the notion that she's going to be "disappeared" is ridiculous on its face.

Even the most violent European felon will be out in a few years because that's how they roll. The guy who killed a hundred plus in Norway will be out in only a few years because they capped sentences at 20 years. Big deal.

The US version worked because we've got Old Sparky and we know how to use it.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (cfSRQ)

86 I loved the "creation" sequence in The Tree of Life, the insertion of which drove some viewers batty.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (kQs4Y)

87 Ooooh... my Best Hash Ever.

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 08:38 PM (BRgHt)

88 I've got two words for ya...
Rambo First Blood Part 1

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 18, 2019 08:38 PM (flINI)

89 I loved the first part. It went downhill with the Indians are one with nature/Americans dumb and horrible second act.

Posted by: Quint


"And the 'Great Horse Culture of the Plains was no more . . . "

You mean the horse culture that only started a couple hundred years before when the Spanish brought horses to the Western Hemisphere for the first time?

Not exaclty an ancient culture.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:39 PM (smc0A)

90 86 I loved the "creation" sequence in The Tree of Life, the insertion of which drove some viewers batty.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (kQs4Y)

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It's God's cinematic answer to Mother's anguish.

It's beautiful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:39 PM (zZbCU)

91 Movie you love that everyone else hates-

Star Trek TMP

Posted by: Retief at May 18, 2019 08:39 PM (yBQiw)

92 Wait, so wasn't Jefferson the guy that wrote the letter to the church about separation that isn't mentioned anywhere in the constitution?

Well, okay (D)s. I guess I'll listen to your idea.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 08:41 PM (lPsvG)

93 Retief, the RLM guys have a ReView on ST:TMP and they like it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUxZmen6G2U

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:41 PM (kQs4Y)

94 Eris, I agree, the rest not near as much. The Nuclear bomb test episode in Twin Peaks Returns was similarly great.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (PUmDY)

95 91 Movie you love that everyone else hates-

Star Trek TMP
Posted by: Retief at May 18, 2019 08:39 PM (yBQiw)

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You might be wrong:

https://tinyurl.com/y624vvwv

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (zZbCU)

96 47
Once Upon a Time in America was overly slow and long.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (PUmDY)


I only saw it on TV but I liked it.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (sdi6R)

97 Regarding movies, book, whatever; rule is the same as my father's If the critics hate it go to see it. If the critics love it do not see it.

.This rule has never failed me.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (pw+jk)

98 First half/Second half movies:

From Dusk 'Til Dawn (AKA Okay, what the actual fuck just happened?)

Midnight Meat Train (AKA Okay, what the actual fuck just happened)?

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:42 PM (smc0A)

99
The US version worked because we've got Old Sparky and we know how to use it.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd


When's the last time anyone got sparked?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 08:43 PM (aKsyK)

100 Movie you love that everyone else hates

Night at the Roxbury
Superstar

Just a coincidence that they are both SNL characters. And I don't really like SNL,

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:43 PM (2DOZq)

101 Anyone see the movie Everybody Dies ?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation


Game of Thrones?

Yes. And good riddance to every single character, except the wolves.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (smc0A)

102 Rickl, excited about the Rolling Thunder doc and box ser?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (PUmDY)

103 Buffalo 66

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (w7KSn)

104 And dynamics. Pace can't just be speed.


Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:37 PM (gO7fe)

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Of course. Do you take time to work through the new theme and let it develop, or just abruptly shift into something new and up-temo?

That why pacing is entirely different from plot. You can go through a plot quickly or slowly. Does it overwhelm you with important events or develop slowly?

Where people have a problem is a thin plot that takes forever or a plot point that seems rushed (i.e. Game of Thrones with psycho blonde chick).

I find GoT tedious and a lot of that is the pacing. We get these long, dramatic-pause-inducing dialogue scenes and then BOOM! A character does something that should have been fully explained, but wasn't.

It's like music that speeds up and slows down randomly.

In my misspent youth I was a tuba player and just for kicks got together with the bass drummer to see how much we could jack up the high school band by ourselves.

The answer is: Quite a bit. We started out dragging the hell out of everything, so that the director was banging the baton and glaring at us, so then we let it rip and in no time flat she was waving her hands to get us to slow down.

The music was supposed to keep an even pace, but we screwed it up.

Drama works the exact same way.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (cfSRQ)

105 Yes...OM said it...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:29 PM (zZbCU)


This always cracks me up...

I've got to find a better way to put your name on this thread so they know it's you. I'm open to suggestions.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (b7IdW)

106 I consider the LOTR movies to show excellent pacing. Yes, it has beautiful scenery but doesn't turn into a travelogue. Being fantasy it needs a fair bit of explanation but doesn't get bogged down in dialogue. There's always a sense of discovery as well as plenty of action to keep the audience's attention. There's no time to relax until the closing credits.

About the worst pacing in a movie I ever saw was the first Star Trek movie. The director fell in love with the fancy visual effects and forgot to tell the story. I'm surprised it didn't sink the franchise.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 08:45 PM (bmdz3)

107 Until the most recent one in Tennessee (iirc) with lethal injection, the previous two guys put to death chose the electric chair.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:45 PM (2DOZq)

108 Cosmic Charley, the weirdest most Lynchian bits in the new Twin Peaks episodes were the best bits, IMO.

It was the "Slow Dougie" part that dragged for me.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:46 PM (kQs4Y)

109 wow, I just went to IMDb and watched a trailer for The Tree of Life.

I'd love to see it. It looks monumental.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:46 PM (xIKXj)

110 I might be the only person in USA that

Never smoked a cigarette, never played a video game and never saw a Star Wars movie

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (DPjeO)

111 @105
This always cracks me up...

I've got to find a better way to put your name on this thread so they know it's you. I'm open to suggestions.

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D'oh...

My bad. I looked at the bottom of the post (which was next to the quote I was borrowing) where the individual who made the post is listed, instead of the top, where JM's name can be found.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (Fp6vo)

112 105 Yes...OM said it...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:29 PM (zZbCU)

This always cracks me up...

I've got to find a better way to put your name on this thread so they know it's you. I'm open to suggestions.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (b7IdW)

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I don't think there's a good option outside of giving me keys to the HQ van.

I find it funny too, so I don't see it as a big problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (zZbCU)

113 82 "Hud " was on the other night

IMO, almost a perfect movie

And being raised on east TX ranch from 1951 to 1969, I found it quite accurate

My uncle JW died in 2005 at 88 , with a rag top caddy and a girlfriend.

I think that was the first Larry McMurtry novel to make it to film. (Horseman, Pass By) Now he knew what he was writing about.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (V2Yro)

114 106
I consider the LOTR movies to show excellent pacing. Yes, it has
beautiful scenery but doesn't turn into a travelogue. Being fantasy it
needs a fair bit of explanation but doesn't get bogged down in dialogue.
There's always a sense of discovery as well as plenty of action to keep
the audience's attention. There's no time to relax until the closing
credits.



About the worst pacing in a movie I ever saw was the first Star Trek
movie. The director fell in love with the fancy visual effects and
forgot to tell the story. I'm surprised it didn't sink the franchise.



Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 08:45 PM (bmdz3)

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Yes, LOTR has good pacing, but increasingly stupid plot (because Jackson re-wrote it).

The first Star Trek movie is awful. Shoulda cut a half hour from it.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:48 PM (cfSRQ)

115 OM, how about:

"[author's] Saturday Evening Movie Thread"

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 08:48 PM (W+vEI)

116 I might be the only person in USA that



Never smoked a cigarette, never played a video game and never saw a Star Wars movie



Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 08:47 PM (DPjeO)

I think you might be right.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (n13/j)

117 You need to call it something poncey like "OregonMuse Presents: James Madison on Film", and we cut to TJM in a smoking jacket in front of a crackling fire.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (kQs4Y)

118 Eris, agree completely.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (PUmDY)

119 109 wow, I just went to IMDb and watched a trailer for The Tree of Life.

I'd love to see it. It looks monumental.
Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:46 PM (xIKXj

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If you watch it, you really need to give it as much attention as you can.

Last time I watched it, I waited until I had the house to myself, put my phone in another room, turned off all the lights, and dragged my love seat right in front of the television.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (zZbCU)

120 @114 Yes, LOTR has good pacing, but increasingly stupid plot (because Jackson re-wrote it).

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Yup.

The first of the three movies, which sticks most closely to the original source material, has always been my favorite.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (Fp6vo)

121 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (2DOZq)

122 Home at last!!!
Tried watching Infinity Room on Netflix yesterday. Boring!!! Couldn't even finish it....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (HaNEn)

123 Drama works the exact same way.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd

Yep. I'm not a musician, but you're exactly right. What gets missed further is the VISUAL elements. That's a symphony. Masses, movement, framing. Timing being exact.

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (gO7fe)

124 Buttboy wants to get rid of all things Jefferson.

Isn't T Jefferson's mug on the two dollar bill ???

just sayin

Posted by: REDACTED


Just part of the utterly evil progressive goal of destroying the past so people forget where we came from. Easier to put your boot on their neck.

Pete Buttfuck: "The guy who wrote the second most consequential document in human history? Fuck THAT guy. He wasn't perfect. Now where are my free government meds for my prolapsed colon."

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (smc0A)

125 Buffalo 66
Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 08:44 PM (w7KSn)

Yup...so bad it's good. Weird movie but it's set in Buffalo so it's what you'd expect.

Wasn't Ben Gazzara the creepy dad in that one?

The dinner scene was awful.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (Z+IKu)

126 117 You need to call it something poncey like "OregonMuse Presents: James Madison on Film", and we cut to TJM in a smoking jacket in front of a crackling fire.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (kQs4Y

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After my mouth heals and I can smoke a cigar again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (zZbCU)

127 117
You need to call it something poncey like "OregonMuse Presents: James
Madison on Film", and we cut to TJM in a smoking jacket in front of a
crackling fire.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (kQs4Y)

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Gotta have a snifter of fine cognac.

I love how older films show that - because snifter = class.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (cfSRQ)

128 @115 OM, how about:

"[author's] Saturday Evening Movie Thread"

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Wouldn't have helped in this instance. As I noted, I pulled the name from the bottom of the post where it listed the person who put it up.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (Fp6vo)

129 The only problem I had with Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman was that she was kind of soft. Model legs, not athlete legs. Very nice legs, but soft.

Posted by: Downcast at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (p6Q7Q)

130 I saw the first Star Trek movie in a theater, it was more visual effects to get it going, at the time that was a eye opener but doesn't hold up now.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (BbGew)

131 I think it's true that only the even numbered Star Treks were good.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:52 PM (2DOZq)

132 130 I saw the first Star Trek movie in a theater, it was more visual effects to get it going, at the time that was a eye opener but doesn't hold up now.
Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (BbGew

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Those special effects have a dramatic and intellectual purpose. They contrast the size of humanity's achievement with the vast unknown intelligence that is coming to earth. I don't quite love the movie, but the idea that the special effects are empty is flat out wrong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (zZbCU)

133 121 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (2DOZq)

We're remaking it, it's better now

Posted by: Dr. Ben Carson at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (DPjeO)

134
Yup.



The first of the three movies, which sticks most closely to the original source material, has always been my favorite.



Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 08:49 PM (Fp6vo)

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He cribbed from the Bakshi version, which is arguably better in many ways.

There's a youtube where they show how much Jackson stole by putting the two films side-by-side.

I don't like Jackson. "Meet the Feebles" is beyond painful.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (cfSRQ)

135 124
Just part of the utterly evil progressive goal of destroying the
past so people forget where we came from. Easier to put your boot on
their neck.



Pete Buttfuck: "The guy who wrote the second most consequential
document in human history? Fuck THAT guy. He wasn't perfect. Now where
are my free government meds for my prolapsed colon."

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:50 PM (smc0A)


Straight up evil. I'm not even going to try to finesse it.
Who is he working for? What is the point of his candidacy?

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (sdi6R)

136 129 The only problem I had with Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman was that she was kind of soft. Model legs, not athlete legs. Very nice legs, but soft.
Posted by: Downcast at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (p6Q7Q)

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Yes. This is a dealbreaker for me. This is why I resolved to rule out a long term relationship with her.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (4knXT)

137 I'm watching John Wick for the first time on cable, and although the action is impressive, there's really not a whole lot to it, is there?

Oh, John Wick is a bad, tough dude, cool.
Oh, John Wick luvved his lady, he's so sensitive, cool.
And he luvs his dog, even more cool.
Oh, she died, that is so sad. John Wick even looks cool when he's sad.
Bad dudes show up - of course they're Russian, it's gotta be white guys to be PC. And they kill his dog. that is so uncool on their part.
Watch John Wick hunt them all down in cool ways while he drives a cool car. cool.
John Wick kills Big Bad at end. And walks away. Supercool.

Is there anything more to it than that?

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:54 PM (V2Yro)

138 huh! IMDb has "freedrive" on which you can watch free movies.

did you know that?

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:54 PM (xIKXj)

139 Those special effects have a dramatic and
intellectual purpose. They contrast the size of humanity's achievement
with the vast unknown intelligence that is coming to earth. I don't
quite love the movie, but the idea that the special effects are empty is
flat out wrong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (zZbCU)

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No one said empty.

They're tedious. It's a big ship. We get it. Move this damn thing forward already!

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 08:55 PM (cfSRQ)

140 137
Is there anything more to it than that?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:54 PM (V2Yro

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That's about it. It's not great art, but it's solid entertainment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 08:55 PM (zZbCU)

141 132

*fistbump*

Posted by: Retief at May 18, 2019 08:55 PM (yBQiw)

142 First half/second half movie:

Cabin in the Woods.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:55 PM (smc0A)

143

Snifter? Why, yes.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (aKsyK)

144 And Buffalo 66 had some big names in it.
The plot was sublime.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (w7KSn)

145 129 The only problem I had with Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman was that she was kind of soft. Model legs, not athlete legs. Very nice legs, but soft.
Posted by: Downcast at May 18, 2019 08:51 PM (p6Q7Q)

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Yes. This is a dealbreaker for me. This is why I resolved to rule out a long term relationship with her.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 08:53 PM (4knXT)

Yeah, I suppose but her face is gorgeous.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (JgA4k)

146 Is there anything more to it than that?

Posted by: Tom Servo

No, there isn't. It's not really very good.

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (gO7fe)

147 Who is he working for? What is the point of his candidacy?

Posted by: rickl


A. Soros.

B. The destruction of the American constitution and way of life.

Like all the DemonRats.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 08:58 PM (smc0A)

148 Thanks, James Madison. I'll not have many distractions when I get ahold of a copy of "The Tree of Life." no problem

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 08:59 PM (xIKXj)

149 I will be seeing John Wick tomorrow.

Here's Razorfist on Blade Runner. Film Noir is in his wheelhouse.
https://youtu.be/E_JxmCZKF-w

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 08:59 PM (rnAwa)

150 >>Straight up evil. I'm not even going to try to finesse it.
Who is he working for? What is the point of his candidacy?


I don't know who he's working for; however, he is 100% Marxist. This is no doubt why he needs to erase Jefferson: he needs to erase his ideas.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:00 PM (W+vEI)

151 "First Blood" was the first Rambo film. But "Rambo" was not in the title.

Posted by: JAS at May 18, 2019 09:01 PM (KOCKb)

152 Well, that's all for me. See everyone at the book thread.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 18, 2019 09:01 PM (cfSRQ)

153 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .

That was Newman's style no? Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Hustler, Cool Hand Luke, Judge Roy Bean. He was good.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:02 PM (K22Va)

154 Similar Movie But Better
Jack Reacher > John Wick

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:04 PM (BRgHt)

155 Just saw John Wick. Gungasm, knife and swordgasm, stupidgasm. I fell asleep.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:07 PM (FTPVM)

156 "First Blood" was the first Rambo film. But "Rambo" was not in the title.


Posted by: JAS at May 18, 2019 09:01 PM (KOCKb)

It was a good film, the first and best of the series. The same with Jaws and Rocky imo, and really, it is not even close.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:07 PM (n13/j)

157 Sorry this is off topic but I need to get it off my chest:

Dear Justin Amash,
Go fuck yourself you fucking fuck.


Carry on.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 18, 2019 09:07 PM (dNzKv)

158 Ugh. One more bit on creepy mayor pete:

The father of Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg was a Marxist professor who spoke fondly of the Communist Manifesto and dedicated a significant portion of his academic career to the work of Italian Communist Party founder Antonio Gramsci, an associate of Vladimir Lenin.

More on his dad's activities to sell Marxism, his life-long passion project: https://tinyurl.com/y5t5wb3s

Ol Pete couldn't even stand up to a little pressure over an interview with Dave Rubin (he cancelled) and yet he thinks he can erase a courageous and brilliant man like Jefferson?? LOLGF

**Apologies for straying from movie discussion**

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:08 PM (W+vEI)

159 114 ... "LOTR has good pacing, but increasingly stupid plot (because Jackson re-wrote it)."

Absolutely agree. The weakest parts of the films are from the rewrites. Aragorn wasn't full of self doubt and reluctant to work towards the crown. That's an unneeded modern trope. Denethor's character is not explained; he's just a bitch. A couple of brief scenes and 30 seconds of dialog would provide the details to show why his is a tragic story. When Gandalf reappears as The White, much of his power and knowledge seems to vanish. Things like these weaken the story in my opinion.

At least Jackson's rewrites in LOTR weren't as bad as what he did with The Hobbit movie.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 09:08 PM (bmdz3)

160 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .

That was Newman's style no? Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Hustler, Cool Hand Luke, Judge Roy Bean. He was good.
Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:02 PM (K22Va)

Yes he played those roles well but everything in HUD was depressing to me. There was no laughter. No scenes to break up the drudgery. No one got out without being screwed up.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:09 PM (2DOZq)

161 Movies you love that everyone hates-
Paint Your Wagon

Posted by: Tony at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (BceaH)

162 Btw, if Scarlett Johansson, in the role of Black Widow, wants to practice that marital arts thing where she wraps her thighs around some guy's head she can practice with me.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (JgA4k)

163 My goodness! I had to take a shower after the chess porn. (I'm not quite a total geek.)

So what's on tap?

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (LuPts)

164 I enjoyed Solaris (Ruskie version) more than I thought I would. Even bought on DVD. It's one of those movies that I've watched several times and still can't figure out why I liked it a lot but I did. Weird.

Drive is a great flick. Ryan Gosling seems to do well in movies where he doesn't say much.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 18, 2019 09:11 PM (aebXF)

165 That was Newman's style no? Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Hustler, Cool Hand Luke, Judge Roy Bean. He was good.
Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:02 PM (K22Va)

Always thought it was his best movie, he got to use his voice very effectively.
Should have join Pat Neal and Mel Douglas as the winner of the best actor Oscar.
Got robbed , Sidney in Lillies, total BS call

Posted by: Dr. Ben Carson at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (DPjeO)

166 >>Is there anything more to it than that?

Nope.
IIRC, it's directed by Keanu's stunt man from the Matrix? Heavy on style, mood and super-cool action.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (W+vEI)

167 @162 Btw, if Scarlett Johansson, in the role of Black Widow, wants to practice that marital arts thing where she wraps her thighs around some guy's head she can practice with me.

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ScarJo wrapping her legs around your head? Or Famke Jannsen wrapping her legs around your chest?

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (Fp6vo)

168 If anyone has Amazon Prime, "Cold War" is pretty good. It's in Polish and kinda artsy fartsy but it's a good look at post war Communism and how it just ruined lives. There was a review on The Federalist that brought it to my attention.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (4thlk)

169 ST TMP suffered a lot of production problems I think. Roddenberry was clearly out of his depth and trying to make an intellectual flick of the kind that Star Trek is really ill equipped to tell. Robert Wise's talents didn't translate into the ST genre very well either. Good, even great director, but for more terrestrial contemporary drama.

And yeah, plodding 2001 ASO rip-off scenes just made the entire movie both boring and too self-aware, as well as cynical.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (IfYaq)

170 Solaris is a favorite of mine.

I've never seen the Russian version. worthwhile?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (H5knJ)

171 161 Movies you love that everyone hates-
Paint Your Wagon
Posted by: Tony at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (BceaH)

You do have a bag on your head at the moment, right ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (DPjeO)

172 164 I enjoyed Solaris (Ruskie version) more than I thought I would. Even bought on DVD. It's one of those movies that I've watched several times and still can't figure out why I liked it a lot but I did. Weird.
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Posted by: Puddleglum at May 18, 2019 09:11 PM (aebXF)

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Maybe you could enjoy Andrei Rublev. Or maybe start with Ivan's Childhood, Tarkovsky's first movie, which is actually pretty short.

The great thing about Tarkovsky is that if you discover him and like him, you're pretty much guaranteed to enjoy the rest. The bad part is that he only made 7 films.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:14 PM (zZbCU)

173 163
My goodness! I had to take a shower after the chess porn. (I'm not quite a total geek.)


Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (LuPts)


I think there were more comments about bombers than chess in that thread. All because of a dress pattern.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 09:15 PM (sdi6R)

174

Movies you hate that everybody loves -

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 09:15 PM (aKsyK)

175 168 If anyone has Amazon Prime, "Cold War" is pretty good. It's in Polish and kinda artsy fartsy but it's a good look at post war Communism and how it just ruined lives. There was a review on The Federalist that brought it to my attention.
Posted by: lowandslow at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (4thlk)

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I watched it this week. It's really good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:15 PM (zZbCU)

176 170 Solaris is a favorite of mine.

I've never seen the Russian version. worthwhile?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls



I think it is. I've never seen the Clooney version though. I'm meh on Clooney.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 18, 2019 09:15 PM (aebXF)

177 170 Solaris is a favorite of mine.

I've never seen the Russian version. worthwhile?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (H5knJ)

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It's great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (zZbCU)

178 @161 Paint Your Wagon

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Never seen it. Buy my Mom used to listen to the songs all the time when I was young. As a result, songs about things such as 400 men in Lonesome Creek are engraved on my brain.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (Fp6vo)

179 160 HUD was a very depressing movie to me. Very well made and acted though .

That was Newman's style no? Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Hustler, Cool Hand Luke, Judge Roy Bean. He was good.
Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:02 PM (K22Va)

Yes he played those roles well but everything in HUD was depressing to me. There was no laughter. No scenes to break up the drudgery. No one got out without being screwed up.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:09 PM (2DOZq)


I saw a dubbed copy of "Hud" on EBAY, complete with laugh track

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (DPjeO)

180 Ditto on "Cold War".
If nothing else, great music bits.
AAAND it's a love story.

Posted by: navybrat swimming upstream at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (w7KSn)

181 I've got to find a better way to put your name on this thread so they know it's you. I'm open to suggestions.

The James Monroe Movie Thread !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (icuj/)

182 178 @161 Paint Your Wagon

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Never seen it. Buy my Mom used to listen to the songs all the time when I was young. As a result, songs about things such as 400 men in Lonesome Creek are engraved on my brain.
Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:16 PM (Fp6vo

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Gonna paint my wagon
Gonna paint it fine
Gonna use oil based paint
Cause the wood is pine.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (zZbCU)

183 Speaking of changing tempos/styles within one piece, Roxy Music were masters. Songs like Virginia Plain.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (PUmDY)

184

I love TJMs movie commentaries. And they're so thoughtful and erudite. I just wish I knew what the hell he was talking about.

Posted by: Splainin at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (NnG5Q)

185 Btw, if Scarlett Johansson, in the role of Black Widow, wants to practice that marital arts thing where she wraps her thighs around some guy's head she can practice with me.

Posted by: Northern Lurker


Ilsa Faust (Rebecca Ferguson - be still my beating heart) in MI: Rogue Nation.

I believe the technical term for that move is "Vag Fu".


Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (smc0A)

186 There's a BIG ol' Full Moon out tonight .

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (icuj/)

187 146 Is there anything more to it than that?
Posted by: Tom Servo

No, there isn't. It's not really very good.
Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 08:56 PM (gO7fe)


I agree. I don't get the John Wick love. To me, it was just mindless violence, very excessive violence, and nothing else.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (b7IdW)

188 184

I love TJMs movie commentaries. And they're so thoughtful and erudite. I just wish I knew what the hell he was talking about.
Posted by: Splainin at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (NnG5Q

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You and me both.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:18 PM (zZbCU)

189 171 161 Movies you love that everyone hates-

Paint Your Wagon

Posted by: Tony at May 18, 2019 09:10 PM (BceaH)



You do have a bag on your head at the moment, right ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:13 PM (DPjeO)'
City Slickers 2.

movie I hate and don't think anyone should love:The Quick and the Dead 1995. Not the L'amour book or film, the Sharon Stone thing.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:18 PM (n13/j)

190 Paint Your Wagon was one of my father's favorites.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:18 PM (2DOZq)

191 185
Ilsa Faust (Rebecca Ferguson - be still my beating heart) in MI: Rogue Nation.

I believe the technical term for that move is "Vag Fu".


Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (smc0A

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She plays Jessica, Paul's mother, in the be Dune film out next year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:18 PM (zZbCU)

192 Pacing is something that I think benefits from comparing book and movie. Obvious example: 3 Days of the Condor. The book was 6 Days of the Condor. Well, why? worth a look.

But the one I go back to over and over is from The Hunt for Red October. There's a crisis near the end involving three submarines. In the movie, their fates are interwoven, over and under each other, huge drama at the end. In the book, the same things happen, I think in the same order, but they're like beads on a string. No building drama. Lots to learn there.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (BCg2A)

193
There's a BIG ol' Full Moon out tonight .
Posted by: JT


Is that one of those songs from Paint Your Wagon?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (aKsyK)

194 Lee Marvin was great in Paint Your Wagon

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (FTPVM)

195 Simpson's Paint your wagon

https://youtu.be/VM5-xFenaZI

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (rnAwa)

196 Equalizer 2 > Equalizer

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:19 PM (2DOZq)

197 (ring ring)
Hello?
May I speak to Moron Robbie?
This is he.
Hi, this is Wonder Woman from the recent movie?
Wow. Hey, is your mom there?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (lPsvG)

198 @162 Btw, if Scarlett Johansson, in the role of Black Widow, wants to practice that marital arts thing where she wraps her thighs around some guy's head she can practice with me.

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ScarJo wrapping her legs around your head? Or Famke Jannsen wrapping her legs around your chest?

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:12 PM (Fp6vo)

Simultaneously?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (JgA4k)

199 I recently watched again the 200th Episode - that is one of the most hilarious episodes in any sci-fi series ever, and it is basically just one in-joke after another. At one point, they're talking about copying other popular shows, and they describe "Farscape" which both Ben Browder and Claudia Black had been in, and end that segment with "naah, nobody ever heard of that." (which was always the knock on Farscape, great show that nobody ever heard of)

And then the coup de grace was when they do Marionettes, and they walk through the Gate, and all their strings are cut...
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 08:19 PM (V2Yro)

The O'Neill-Carter wedding, presided over by Asgard Supreme Commander Thor, was absolute fan service.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (MwFQu)

200 Another slow movie that is nonetheless good is Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (H5knJ)

201 LOL, in "mid90's" the skatebord punks are getting into it with a rent-a-cop for skating on school property.

Black Cop: F*ck you, n***a
Black punk: No, f*ck you, n***a. You need Jesus.
You're smoking on school property!
Black cop: The Bible is pro-cigarettes, n***a. Jesus smoked cigarettes.
Black punk: Oh yeah? What cigarettes did Jesus smoke?
Black cop: Jesus smoked Cools, n***a!


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (kQs4Y)

202 I may be banned from the movie threads but Battlefield Earth is not as bad as the meme.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

203 The James Monroe Movie Thread !
Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:17 PM (icuj/)

I hate to bust your bubble but Monroe had a farm in the South, so .............

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (DPjeO)

204 Ol Pete couldn't even stand up to a little pressure over an interview with Dave Rubin (he cancelled) and yet he thinks he can erase a courageous and brilliant man like Jefferson?? LOLGF
**Apologies for straying from movie discussion**
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:08 PM (W+vEI)


And then it turns out that James Comey was a communist when he was younger.

GAAAH!!! IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE F*CKING DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO IS *NOT* A RAT BASTARD COMMIE???

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (b7IdW)

205 A girl named Lola. She runs.

Well I'm not dumb but I can't understand

Why she walks like a woman and pees like a man

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (icuj/)

206 @182 Gonna paint my wagon
Gonna paint it fine
Gonna use oil based paint
Cause the wood is pine.

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?

Never heard it.

Posted by: junior at May 18, 2019 09:22 PM (Fp6vo)

207 202 I may be banned from the movie threads but Battlefield Earth is not as bad as the meme.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

The audio in the barrel is horrendous

Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:22 PM (DPjeO)

208 Yes he played those roles well but everything in HUD was depressing to
me. There was no laughter. No scenes to break up the drudgery. No one
got out without being screwed up.

I agree. That was the style of movie making then? B and W too. Love those movies from the 50's and early 60's.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (K22Va)

209 Dune, the Beatings Will Continue. Opening 2020.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (lPsvG)

210 207 202 I may be banned from the movie threads but Battlefield Earth is not as bad as the meme.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

The audio in the barrel is horrendous
Posted by: REDACTED at May 18, 2019 09:22 PM (DPjeO)

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I agree. Genuine affection for Battlefield Earth is barrel worthy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (zZbCU)

211 GAAAH!!! IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE F*CKING DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO IS *NOT* A RAT BASTARD COMMIE???
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (b7IdW)


No.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (aS1PU)

212 There's a BIG ol' Full Moon out tonight .

Posted by: JT

... there's a bathroom on the right.

Posted by: Florida, man. at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (K1IUD)

213 >> Equalizer 2 > Equalizer

Really? I really liked the first Equalizer movie.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:24 PM (W+vEI)

214 200 Another slow movie that is nonetheless good is Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:20 PM (H5knJ)


TTSS was just the main character going around talking to people.

Also, in the role of George Smiley, Alec Guinness > Gary Oldman.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:24 PM (b7IdW)

215 I've watched Cuckshed Anal literally hundreds of times. Some of the biggest cocks I've ever sucke...I mean, seen.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at May 18, 2019 09:25 PM (FTPVM)

216 I hate to bust your bubble but Monroe had a farm in the South, so .............


eieio

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:25 PM (icuj/)

217 Pacing is an interesting concept in movies (and literature but this isn't the book thread). It's not always allied with action. A film like The Philadelphia Story takes place in a day's time and nothing much happens. But the story is carried by sparkling dialog and the characters' reactions to the words. It does help that the dialog is delivered rapidly, something that Cary Grant did so well.

Oh yeah, it does help that the acting is superb and fun.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 09:25 PM (bmdz3)

218 I agree. Genuine affection for Battlefield Earth is barrel worthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:23 PM (zZbCU)

I didn't say I had affection for it only that I can think of a couple dozen movies I think are way worse. Starship Troopers is 10x as bad.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:26 PM (2DOZq)

219 214
Also, in the role of George Smiley, Alec Guinness > Gary Oldman.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:24 PM (b7IdW)

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They were very different performances. Guinness was genial while Oldman was very reserved.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:26 PM (zZbCU)

220 i look at the news and don't know what to do

so many sobs and no way to let them have it

I just read an article by Greenfield on Frontpage about how they're using children to get parents to believe in manmade climate change

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 09:26 PM (xIKXj)

221 Equalizer 2 > Equalizer

Really? I really liked the first Equalizer movie.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:24 PM (W+vEI)

Oh I liked the first one but I liked the second one better.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:27 PM (2DOZq)

222 I have to admit didn't quite see Franka as my type in the Borne movies.

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:27 PM (BbGew)

223 I picked up the DVD Miller's Crossing at a yard sale this AM.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:27 PM (icuj/)

224 Rebecca Ferguson, Karen Gillan and Gal Gadot walk into a bar . . .

Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 09:28 PM (smc0A)

225 I have to admit didn't quite see Franka as my type in the Borne movies.

Franka Sinatra ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:28 PM (icuj/)

226 Dude, Starship Troopers was awesome.

"You apes wanna live forever?"

And when Doogie Fagster says of the Brain bug, " They're afraid of us!"


Classic!

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:29 PM (FTPVM)

227 204GAAAH!!! IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE F*CKING DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO IS *NOT* A RAT BASTARD COMMIE???


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at May 18, 2019 09:21 PM (b7IdW)


I'm old enough to remember when being a rat bastard commie was pretty much a disqualifier for national political office. Good times.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 09:29 PM (sdi6R)

228 Pacing is an interesting concept in movies (and
literature but this isn't the book thread). It's not always allied with
action. A film like The Philadelphia Story takes place in a day's time
and nothing much happens. But the story is carried by sparkling dialog
and the characters' reactions to the words. It does help that the dialog
is delivered rapidly, something that Cary Grant did so well.



Oh yeah, it does help that the acting is superb and fun.

Posted by: JTB at May 18, 2019 09:25 PM (bmdz3)

Enchanted April, Remains of the Day, Howard's End. There are so many movies like this that I guess might get made as indies. They are not from any Hollywood "universe" and the action figure market is weak.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:30 PM (n13/j)

229 220 i look at the news and don't know what to do

so many sobs and no way to let them have it

I just read an article by Greenfield on Frontpage about how they're using children to get parents to believe in manmade climate change
Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 09:26 PM (xIKXj)


There Will Be Blood

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:30 PM (FTPVM)

230 I think I have Mayor Buttplug figured out.

He's been overly ambitious since HS, creating a record for a political career, and kept his gayness on the down low until 2015, into his second mayoral term. Then he met his husband on a gay dating app and came out.

He has no near-term political future to match his ambition. He's in the Midwest, and only has appeal to the Richest, Deep Blue places. So he's a huge negative as a VP nominee.

He wants to be Rachel Maddow. Big salary, big visibility, book deals. Possibilities down the road. If I were Chris Hayes, I'd be worried. MSNBC has found someone gayer than you.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 09:30 PM (1UZdv)

231 I picked up the DVD Miller's Crossing at a yard sale this AM.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:27 PM (icuj/)

good choice.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (n13/j)

232 Anybody seen the movie Disorganized Crime ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (icuj/)

233 They are having a Mod Squad marathon on the Decades channel. Peggy Lipton was definitely a hottie.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (2DOZq)

234 How about a thread about movies where the sequel was better than the first?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (JgA4k)

235 "The Naked Prey" was fast paced but with little or no words.

They need to do a remake set in modern times.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (Z+IKu)

236 Enchanted April, Remains of the Day, Howard's End. There are so many movies like this that I guess might get made as indies. They are not from any Hollywood "universe" and the action figure market is weak.
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Well, there was a "Remains of the Day" lunchbox.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (kQs4Y)

237 235 "The Naked Prey" was fast paced but with little or no words.

They need to do a remake set in modern times.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (Z+IKu)

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"How about in the Amazon?!"
-Mel Gibson

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (zZbCU)

238 They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (FTPVM)

239 234 How about a thread about movies where the sequel was better than the first?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 09:31 PM (JgA4k)

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I've gotta throw you people a bone, so sure. I'll do that next time.

Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (zZbCU)

240 Well, there was a "Remains of the Day" lunchbox.

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That would be great to carry leftovers in.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (lPsvG)

241 238 They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (FTPVM)
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"Jeremiah's Johnson".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (kQs4Y)

242 Remember when the Left used to rag on conservatives for thinking commies were everywhere? Yeah, about that...

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (BRgHt)

243 Bryan Ferry is touring the full Avalon album later this year, not as exciting as early Roxy, but still hyped to hear.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (PUmDY)

244 My Dinner With Andre was kind of slow moving.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 18, 2019 09:35 PM (JgA4k)

245 I'm sorry, TJM. I haven't seen "Andrei Rublev".

I have seen "Russian Ark", which proceeds at a slow, stately pace.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:35 PM (kQs4Y)

246 241 238 They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (FTPVM)
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"Jeremiah's Johnson".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (kQs4Y)

"Suck it, Pilgrim!"

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (FTPVM)

247 Jeremiah's Johnson".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:34 PM (kQs4Y)

Yeah Mountain Men was Charton Heston and Brian Keith . I liked it but critics did not.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (2DOZq)

248 Was there a trapper keeper as well?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (PUmDY)

249 Godfather II >> Godfather I

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (1UZdv)

250 245 I'm sorry, TJM. I haven't seen "Andrei Rublev".

I have seen "Russian Ark", which proceeds at a slow, stately pace.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:35 PM (kQs4Y)

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Ah, the one shot experiment through the Russian Hermitage.

That movie's wonderful. I own it...it's around here somewhere...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:36 PM (zZbCU)

251 "Jeremiah's Johnson".

LOL !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (icuj/)

252 that gay cowboy romance was a cultural persuasion piece for how great homosexuals are

they use the most attractive people because if they used people that looked like schist and nadless, no one would watch

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (xIKXj)

253 An oldie but goodie, Babette's Feast :p

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (FTPVM)

254 "Jeremiah's Johnson".

There is not a quicker wit on any site in the world, lol.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (K22Va)

255 A film like The Philadelphia Story takes place in a day's time and nothing much happens.
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Geez. Tom Hanks got AIDS and died the same day? No wonder it's such a sad movie.

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (BRgHt)

256 Enchanted April, Remains of the Day, Howard's End.
There are so many movies like this that I guess might get made as
indies. They are not from any Hollywood "universe" and the action figure
market is weak.

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Well, there was a "Remains of the Day" lunchbox.





Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:32 PM (kQs4Y)

The things you can learn here!

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (n13/j)

257 Empire Strikes Back

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (PUmDY)

258 Godfather > Everything Else including II

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:38 PM (BRgHt)

259 "The Naked Prey" was fast paced but with little or no words.

They need to do a remake set in modern times.

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Honkey In Detroit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 09:39 PM (+y/Ru)

260 Mad Max II (Road Warrior)

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 18, 2019 09:39 PM (1UZdv)

261 I watched Russian Ark. it was anti communism, too. The people who have lived through communism are anti-communism, but the idiots with the microphones are keeping that info on the down low.

they think they'll be more equal than the rest of us

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 09:39 PM (xIKXj)

262 An oldie but goodie, Babette's Feast :p
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (FTPVM)


I saw it years ago and knew nothing about it. I loved it.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 09:39 PM (aS1PU)

263 253 An oldie but goodie, Babette's Feast :p

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:37 PM (FTPVM)

agreed. I don't know if TJM has ever did a food movie thread but there are some really great ones. My fave is Big Night. There are a bunch of others including Babette's Feast and a lot of Asian ones.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (n13/j)

264 Jeremiah Johnson was based on The Mountain Man. Different from The Mountain Men, which I thought was decent.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (FTPVM)

265 Ok, I put the decline of Star Wars beginning at Empire Strikes Back. That was when Jedi started to morph into godly superheroes instead of spiritual-type warrior monks.

Star Wars was more interesting when the Force was implied to be a belief system accessible to all. Made it easier to identify with Luke.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (IfYaq)

266 How any guy could hate you for trying to get him into Ingrid Bergman...

** slowly shakes head in disbelief **

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (A3w0Q)

267 They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.

"Who - all comes to these here parties?"
"Just you and me."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (8ZmvG)

268 I don't turn this off soon the ONT will show up before I know it

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (BbGew)

269 That "Remains of the Day" lunchbox was a joke piece in "Waiting for Guffman". Corkey Sherwood also had a "My Dinner With Andre" lunchbox.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (kQs4Y)

270 Rebecca Ferguson, Karen Gillan and Gal Gadot walk into a bar . . .
Posted by: Sharkman at May 18, 2019 09:28 PM (smc0A)

Honestly Karen Gillan is so smokin hot in Jumanji, I'm sure it broke laws in four or five countries

Posted by: ... at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (BRgHt)

271 Jeremiah Johnson was based on The Mountain Man. Different from The Mountain Men, which I thought was decent.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (FTPVM)

both were super decent imo.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (n13/j)

272 266 How any guy could hate you for trying to get him into Ingrid Bergman...

** slowly shakes head in disbelief **
Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:41 PM (A3w0Q

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Tell that to Roberto Rossellini.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:42 PM (zZbCU)

273 Ref Solaris.

Saw both versions, liked both versions.
Don't remember too much about the US one (except that I liked it)
the Russian is slow, moody and fascinating.

I wish they had done a movie
that was more like the book.

Posted by: ArthurK at May 18, 2019 09:42 PM (EfDaM)

274 I was thinking it was a Kids in the Hall skit. I knew I had seen that.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:42 PM (PUmDY)

275 Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone

OK. Give me some bio. When did he live, when did he make movies? He was a Soviet who made 7 films? Why only 7? Were they successful?

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:43 PM (gO7fe)

276 273 Ref Solaris.

Saw both versions, liked both versions.
Don't remember too much about the US one (except that I liked it)
the Russian is slow, moody and fascinating.

I wish they had done a movie
that was more like the book.
Posted by: ArthurK at May 18, 2019 09:42 PM (EfDaM)

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So did the book's author.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:43 PM (zZbCU)

277 264
Jeremiah Johnson was based on The Mountain Man. Different from The Mountain Men, which I thought was decent.

I always thought it was based on Jeremiah "The Liver Eater" Johnson, a mountain man who ate the livers of enemies but never really showed in the movie.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:44 PM (K22Va)

278 Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.

nor Disorganized Crime.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:44 PM (icuj/)

279 275 Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone

OK. Give me some bio. When did he live, when did he make movies? He was a Soviet who made 7 films? Why only 7? Were they successful?
Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:43 PM (gO7fe

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It was Andrei Tarkovsky's second movie about the Russian icon painter. Set in 15th century Russia, the Soviet Union tried to suppress it because it's really spiritual.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:44 PM (zZbCU)

280 Didn't he have a My Dinner with Andre play set?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 09:44 PM (PUmDY)

281 GAAAH!!! IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE F*CKING DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO IS *NOT* A RAT BASTARD COMMIE???

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Used to be you could say that the only good Democrat was a dead Democrat but these days even the dead vote for radical candidates.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (+y/Ru)

282 277 You're probably right. I like to act like I know things

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (FTPVM)

283 I always thought it was based on Jeremiah "The Liver Eater" Johnson, a mountain man who ate the livers of enemies but never really showed in the movie.

Ya won't see that in the Food Thread either.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (icuj/)

284 >>Enchanted April

Love that movie!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (W+vEI)

285 202 I may be banned from the movie threads but Battlefield Earth is not as bad as the meme."

Battlefield Earth - who could have imagined that a scriptwriter would rip off "Yor, Hunter from the Future!" ????

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 09:46 PM (V2Yro)

286 284 Enchanted April



Love that movie!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 18, 2019 09:45 PM (W+vEI)

I lost some street cred with that recco but oh well.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:47 PM (n13/j)

287 >>>They should do a remake of The Mountain Man where Jeremiah Johnson is a homosexual.<<<

He can cut out their livers and stuff them In His Ass.

Posted by: Fritz at May 18, 2019 09:47 PM (LuPts)

288 277 Ha, turns out we're both right! Drink!!!

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:47 PM (FTPVM)

289 279
275 Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.



Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone



OK. Give me some bio. When did he live, when did he make movies? He
was a Soviet who made 7 films? Why only 7? Were they successful?

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:43 PM (gO7fe



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It was Andrei Tarkovsky's second movie about the Russian icon
painter. Set in 15th century Russia, the Soviet Union tried to suppress
it because it's really spiritual.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone

When was it made? 2nd film, tried to suppress, and yet he still made 5 more?

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (gO7fe)

290 Just saw a preview for Shaft.

Once again Hollywood demonstrates just how intellectually bankrupt they are. Yet another raid on the '60s and '79s.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (0tfLf)

291 282
277 You're probably right. I like to act like I know things

lol, the next round of beers is on me.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (K22Va)

292 Brokeback Johnson?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (IfYaq)

293
Apparently no one wants to talk about Andrei Rublev.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:33 PM (zZbCU)

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I heard it couldn't hold a candle to Andrei Rublev II: Andrei Owns The Renaissance

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (4knXT)

294 There are no blue dog democrats anymore. If you vote dem, you are a Marxist. There is no middle ground.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (dNzKv)

295 James your description of Andrei Rublev makes me think it is a Communist movie or at least under Communism. Even the Russian version of War and Peace gets a Communist speach ending from Marshal Kutuzov

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (BbGew)

296 289
When was it made? 2nd film, tried to suppress, and yet he still made 5 more?
Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:48 PM (gO7fe)

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Mid 60s. The Soviet Union could never quite control their artists, as far as I can tell.

Trailer is in the post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (zZbCU)

297 Roberto Rosellini?

Never heard of him.

But that close up of her in Humphrey's office in Casablanca, my-my.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (A3w0Q)

298 I will try to check out Rubliev but as of now I don't have any streaming services.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 09:51 PM (n13/j)

299 Jeremiah Johnson was based on The Mountain Man. Different from The Mountain Men, which I thought was decent.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 18, 2019 09:40 PM (FTPVM)

I did not read it right but I did not know that even if I had. Thanks.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 18, 2019 09:51 PM (2DOZq)

300 People still watch DVDs? I had no idea

Posted by: Ree at May 18, 2019 09:51 PM (vVjnK)

301
47 "Once Upon a Time in America" was overly slow and long.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 08:18 PM (PUmDY)


I cannot get behind this as being a "great" movie -- [tedium] ^ tedium

The better half and I watched the Coen Brothers' "The Hudsucker Proxy" last night. What a joy to encounter after so many years away. Its pace is spot on and the visual and audio aspects of the story are perfect. Paul Newman gets me every time with his wisecracking putdowns of Norbert (Tim Robbins).The back and forth dialog between Norbert and Waring Hudsucker (Charles Durning) is always amusing, too. The young kid who first encountered the hula hoop and immediately started doing tricks is a hoot.

Its main flaw, IMHO, is the pas de deux dance number set to an aria from Carmen. What was the point of having it in there at all?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 18, 2019 09:52 PM (pNxlR)

302 Trailer is in the post.
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We're too lazy to even look at the pictures in the content!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:52 PM (kQs4Y)

303 295 James your description of Andrei Rublev makes me think it is a Communist movie or at least under Communism. Even the Russian version of War and Peace gets a Communist speach ending from Marshal Kutuzov
Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (BbGew

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It was made under the Soviet Union, but it's very very far from communist propaganda. It's really about the artist and his relationship to the world around him.

For communist propoganda, check out Soy Cuba, which is reviewed at the end of the post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:52 PM (zZbCU)

304 Hey JT.

Read about the purple gang today.
I guess it really was the jooos after all.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:52 PM (A3w0Q)

305 297 Roberto Rosellini?

Never heard of him.

But that close up of her in Humphrey's office in Casablanca, my-my.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:49 PM (A3w0Q

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He and Ingrid had a shocking affair in the 50s. They were both married to other people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:53 PM (zZbCU)

306 Trailer is in the post.

"Trailer for sale or rent......"

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:53 PM (icuj/)

307 Hey JT.

Read about the purple gang today.
I guess it really was the jooos after all.
Posted by: teej

Uh-oh.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (icuj/)

308 People still watch DVDs? I had no idea
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It's weird what ISN'T available on streaming at Netflix. And it seems like they're going more and more to exclusive content, so lots of films that were on streaming, ain't. Which is why I still get DVDs.

Like "Mid90's".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (kQs4Y)

309 I've heard that the Battlefield earth books are actually good. That movie. I can watch it, but it requires a lot of beer.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (H5knJ)

310 Nood ONT.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (IfYaq)

311 @300 Posted by: Ree

Is that you raimondo?
Silly me. Keep forgetting.
Average Joe

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (A3w0Q)

312 308 People still watch DVDs? I had no idea
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It's weird what ISN'T available on streaming at Netflix. And it seems like they're going more and more to exclusive content, so lots of films that were on streaming, ain't. Which is why I still get DVDs.

Like "Mid90's".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:55 PM (kQs4Y)

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I've been thinking of a post about this and who streaming shouldn't be the future.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (zZbCU)

313 Oh, and thanks for the feedback on the Russian version of Solaris. I'll check it out.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (H5knJ)

314 ONT is up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (kQs4Y)

315 Just a joke, JT.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:57 PM (A3w0Q)

316 Waiting for Guffman to get off my lawn.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 18, 2019 09:58 PM (RuIsu)

317 Mid 60s. The Soviet Union could never quite control their artists, as far as I can tell.



Trailer is in the post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone,

Watched the trailer. Not sure I was hooked. Soviet filmmakers in the '20's were incredible, but pretty much got snuffed out in the '30's. I'm not very familiar with post-war Soviet film. Haven't seen much at all, but what I've seen is - very strange to me. There are things I'm not getting.
So was this this guy's thing? Spiritual films?

Posted by: Vertov at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (gO7fe)

318 *Que's up Run Lola Run again.*


Posted by: Just Got Here at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (MouFt)

319 There were 3 good star wars movies: 3.9 (rogue one), 4, 5

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (rnAwa)

320 *queues

Posted by: Just Got Here at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (MouFt)

321 Pacing can add or subtract from a movie but it's not a quality that makes or breaks a film. Most pieces of shit seem to be well paced and you never think about it.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (jNdqc)

322 Equalizer 2 > Equalizer



Are you mad??

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 18, 2019 10:24 PM (yQpMk)

323 Opening this weekend; John Wick: Chapter 3 - A Dog's Journey. A heart-warming movie that shows a dog lovingly follow his master, as his master frenetically guns down hundreds of hired assassins. Its the feel-good action movie of the summer!

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (Lhaco)

324 I saw Andrei Rublev at the University of Colorado at Boulder in the early 1980s, introduced by Stan Brakhage. It was a big deal as I recall, maybe the film had not been shown in several years or it might have been a longer or restored version. ? Don't really remember.

I do remember the film though. Long, slow, quite beautiful and evocative but slow. Lots of snow. But then the end - I will never forget that. The paintings, in color. One of the greatest film moments of all time. Thank you for reminding me of it.

Highly recommended to those who have never seen it.

Posted by: Artemis at May 19, 2019 04:50 AM (EMx6k)

325 Late to the party (as usual) but I have Tarkovsky's "The Mirror" - bizarre, to say the least. The Soviets had a problem with their artists - they wanted their artists to behave but there wasn't much they could do at the risk of PR (and trust me, they wanted good PR, especially on the international front). Take Eisenstein. Stalin was unhappy with how Ivan the Terrible Part 2 turned out and stopped Part 3 at about the 100-foot of film point. Stalin could have had Eisenstein shot, of course, but he didn't, and one of the biggest reasons why was the international outcry such a move would have triggered. (Eisenstein was already stressed out over just such a fate and eventually died of a heart attack.)

As for Mr. Buttygig: one of the best things that ever happened to the Navy was the day he resigned his commission. Isn't it interesting that he swore to support and defend a document for which he has nothing but passionate hatred and contempt?

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 06:09 AM (Xk5BK)

326 You must truly be a misogynist. If anything, you are definitely a fucking pig.

Posted by: Shorty at May 19, 2019 08:46 AM (NLEnr)

327 OregonMuse

Try Calvary with Brendan Gleeson and Kelly Oreilly.

Wonder your opinion.

DS

Posted by: DaneSkold at May 19, 2019 12:15 PM (oKoCj)

328 Tarkovski loves filming river algae and freshwater seaweeds in motion - as if they are land based blades of windblown grass. It's quite beautiful. He gets that 'seaweed' shot in every film that I know of.

Posted by: 13times at May 19, 2019 06:51 PM (K3B2k)

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