New York Times Bombshell Nothingburger: During the Period When Four of Trump's Businesses Notoriously Declared Bankruptcy, Trump Himself Suffered Losses and Paid Little Income Tax on the Money He Was Not Actually Making (Due to the Bankruptcies)

John Sexton digests the New York Times' bomshell report that when a man suffers four bankruptcies of major companies he owns, he's not making much if any money.

Sexton notes that the Times gets cagey about how they got these illegally-leaked documents. The Times claims they were from someone with legal access to the documents, as if legal access means "the legal right to release, without the taxpayer's permission."

Nice little soft-shoe there, Times.

Who had legal access to the information in Trump's returns? Is that the CPA or attorney doing his taxes during those years? Even assuming this person had legal access to the information, how is it legal to leak that information to the media? This Bloomberg primer on tax confidentiality suggests there are very few circumstances where a tax professional can reveal information without the express permission of the person involved. I'm assuming whoever leaked this information didn't have Trump's consent.
In any case, I'm not sure how much impact this is going to have. It's not as if the fact that his casino empire was a money loser was a secret until now.

Your stockbroker has legal access to money in your account, and limited permission to use it to buy and sell stocks on your behalf.

That doesn't mean he has the legal right to take all your money and give it to the New York Times.

Times deliberately deceives readers in trying very hard, and by convoluted, lawyerly language, to suggest that this leak is somehow legal.

But they want you trust their word about everything else they say.

The New York Times has a point, though: Should we trust the word of a business that loses so much money on a business deal? Should we trust the political judgment of a brain trust that loses a billion dollars on a single acquisition, for example?

Can you imagine losing more than $1Bn on a business deal!?! pic.twitter.com/t5xurERkXG
— Steve Robinson (@BigSteve207) May 8, 2019

By the way, there's also the consideration that taxable income is only partly correlated with actual income.

I saw the NYT spread on Trump's taxes. They are trying to turn it into a scandal. It's not a scandal. Trump is a real estate developer and real estate developers can almost always show losses. This is a total disinformation campaign that takes advantage of people not knowing the tax code.
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I had dinner with a real estate developer a couple of years ago. He told me his goal was to build a building and only have it 60% occupied. That way, he could take a gigantic tax loss. So, like most things Trump, this is all about nothing.
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When you lose money, you can roll the losses ahead. They call this tax loss carryforward. If you are an entrepreneur with a variable income you become infinitely familiar with this provision of the tax code. It's never a goal to lose money, but when you do it’s nice that you can roll it forward as you dig out from the loss.

If memory serves, when Twitter and FaceBook-approved Conspiracy Theorist Rachel Maddow announced her BLOCKBUSTER! (nothingburger) Trump tax leak, it turned out that much of the losses in some years was just carried-forward losses from earlier YUGE years of losses.

The idea of this is simple: Let's say in one year you are absolutely wiped out. You lose one hundred million, and pay no tax.

The next year you earn $100 million.

How should you be taxed? You weren't taxed that one year you lost $100 million. But should you pay normal tax rates for the next year -- say, $50 million in federal taxes.

Or would a rational tax code look at these two years together and say that really, for both years combined, you actually made about zero dollars cumulatively?

Legislators have decided taxing half your money that second year wouldn't be a fair representation of your actual multiyear-term income, and so they let you take the losses from that one year and carry them over to reduce your income in later years.

But you know, we're in the End Times now, the Time of Chaos, and Democrats and their media masters (yeah, it's the media calling the shots now, especially social media tech monsters) will decide that following the law is now against the law.

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1 st?

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 08, 2019 07:16 PM (aS1PU)

2 heh

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 08, 2019 07:16 PM (aS1PU)

3 I'm sure Carlos Slim pays his fair share.

Posted by: pep at May 08, 2019 07:17 PM (T6t7i)

4 Moreover, in "The Art Of The Comeback", he already wrote about this, at length, or his ghostwriter did, whatever. This is hardly news.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2019 07:18 PM (ujg0T)

5 I had legal access to those Jews

Posted by: Literally Hitler at May 08, 2019 07:19 PM (RKQ/v)

6 IIRC, at one time in the mid 90s, the Graham's WaPo shares were worth something on the order of $5B, and more like $200M when they sold to Bezos.

Posted by: pep at May 08, 2019 07:19 PM (T6t7i)

7 Times deliberately deceives readers in trying very hard, and by convoluted, lawyerly language, to suggest that this leak is somehow legal.
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Yup. But as our earlier visitor said today, legality and truth don't matter, if you're trying to get Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:19 PM (vDqXW)

8 There's gonna be a lot of math in this thread, isn't there.

Posted by: davidt at May 08, 2019 07:19 PM (w/wKz)

9 My ass is a BLOCKBUSTER.

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at May 08, 2019 07:20 PM (EgshT)

10 There's gonna be a lot of math in this thread, isn't there.

*tiptoes back out*

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 08, 2019 07:20 PM (dUJdY)

11 Moreover, in "The Art Of The Comeback", he already wrote about this, at length, or his ghostwriter did, whatever. This is hardly news.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2019 07:18 PM (ujg0T)
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Ah, that explains that tweet I saw earlier:
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Maybe he should write a book about that. Call it "Art of the Comeback".

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:20 PM (vDqXW)

12 LIV's don't have a freaking clue about the tax code. I paid more in Federal income tax this year than Amazon. And the tax code was written by politicians. It's so complex that even the IRS doesn't understand it. Think about that.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 08, 2019 07:21 PM (gEvQ8)

13 Me and Morgan made $100 Million last year from selling our mint Beanie Baby collection and avoided paying any taxes with this one weird trick.

Posted by: Tommy Flanagan at May 08, 2019 07:21 PM (CsvE8)

14 The time period covered was when there was a real estate slowdown and EVERYBODY was losing money.

A lot of ppl in real estate went under and never came back.

Don also said that that was the way the game was played you spent money and lost money and then wrote it off on your taxes to stay on top.

All legal. All legitimate deductions and Mr. Trump managed to keep himself in business with a comfortable roof over his head until Real Estate started back up.

They make a big deal out of him claiming lost money. Big deal. Lots of people lose money on investments. It's how this country works.

The New York Times needs to DIAF they really are a waste of good trees.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:21 PM (XmlCz)

15 Jeff Bezos lost $143 Billion in one day.

Let's look at his tax returns!

Posted by: LASue at May 08, 2019 07:21 PM (XROPS)

16 Too pretty to do math.

Posted by: Regular joe at May 08, 2019 07:21 PM (6/uwW)

17 Why would anyone who has never paid taxes in their life know anything about taxes?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2019 07:22 PM (Ct55T)

18 I'm waiting for "The Art of LOL Fuck Off!"

Posted by: kathysaysso at May 08, 2019 07:22 PM (vkS2Z)

19 I'll have a nothingburger and a side of French lies.

Posted by: Regular joe at May 08, 2019 07:22 PM (6/uwW)

20 What LASue said!

Posted by: Old Blue at May 08, 2019 07:22 PM (gEvQ8)

21 Who wrote the State of NY tax laws that let Trump do what he did?

Posted by: davidt at May 08, 2019 07:22 PM (w/wKz)

22 Next book should be the Art of Dealing with Complete Idiots.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 08, 2019 07:23 PM (jXrK7)

23 ....rrrr..
..rrrrr....rrrrrr...
..rrrr..
..rrrrrrRUSSIA!!!

Posted by: New York Times at May 08, 2019 07:23 PM (vDqXW)

24 I would love to see the Trump Curse extend to the Gray Lady.

#learntocodemotherfuckers

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 08, 2019 07:23 PM (d7Ww2)

25 The NYT is base propaganda, and its readers are idiots.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2019 07:23 PM (NWiLs)

26
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 08, 2019 07:23 PM (26G1N)

27 Nice work, NYTimes. Now, do Hollywood accounting practices.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 08, 2019 07:23 PM (wCmLp)

28 Next, the Times will break a bombshell expose report about defeating the Germans in WWII. This could be dynamite!

Posted by: josephistan at May 08, 2019 07:24 PM (Izzlo)

29 Illicit tax viewing is the new tentacle porn

Posted by: Regular joe at May 08, 2019 07:24 PM (6/uwW)

30 I think many people also don't realize that Donald Trump and Donald Trump's corporations are separate entities.

For all they bitch and rail against "Corporations, maaaaan!", I don't think many of them actually know what a corporation *is*.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2019 07:24 PM (Ct55T)

31 Belittle the End Times if you must, but, from where I sit, everything appears to be right on schedule.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 08, 2019 07:24 PM (w7KSn)

32 And *curses be upon him* Mittens was right when he said that 47% of persons in the US pay no taxes. I'm sure he meant Federal, but the point stands

Posted by: Old Blue at May 08, 2019 07:24 PM (gEvQ8)

33 I just realized something:

2+2=4, and
2x2=4

Mind. Blown.

that's pretty much my understanding of math.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 08, 2019 07:24 PM (xPJvm)

34 The guy who really twists my titties is Joe (Jugghead) Scarborough.

Can anyone get as suckophantic as this guy?

It makes you realize how close so called Republican Representatives are to actually being Democrats.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:25 PM (XmlCz)

35 Mind. Blown.

that's pretty much my understanding of math.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 08, 2019 07:24 PM (xPJvm)
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We were told that there would be no math.

Posted by: New York Times at May 08, 2019 07:25 PM (vDqXW)

36 I do know that it's not that hard to just take all the money for yourself, and run a company into the ground and declare BK and stiff all your creditors. There are a lot of scumbags out there. It's really a horrible world, filled with horrible people.

Posted by: Chris M at May 08, 2019 07:25 PM (6XZdO)

37 Hey Alton!

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 08, 2019 07:25 PM (dUJdY)

38 It makes you realize how close so called Republican Representatives are to actually being Democrats.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:25 PM (XmlCz)
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Nah, just mutual Elite lackeys.

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:25 PM (vDqXW)

39 Fucking economic illiterates.

I get paid every 2 weeks.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 08, 2019 07:26 PM (bFSXM)

40 I was pointing out to the idiots on the Twats last night that it is, literally, a part of Trump's schtick that he lost everything and came back. You can tell this by subtle things like one of his books being called The Art of the Comeback.

Other people were sending the NYT copies of the stories that the NYT ran about Trump in the mid to late 90's talking about his rallying back from a billion dollar hole.

That's when it hit me. These idiots who think they know so much about how to run America have no familiarity at all with American pop culture. None.

Trump has been a part of American pop culture for, what, 40 years? That's why the but but but he's so immoral wailing by French et al doesn't move the needle. Yes, Donald Trump is a womanizer. His name is nigh to synonymous with it. This has been known longer than some of the people crying about it have been alive.

Oh noes Trump is not a great businessman, why, he lost money running a casino! My dudes, that joke was played out in 1995. And yet, for being such a terrible businessman, he sure as hell seemed to be able to leverage his name into a hit tv show. But it's all marketing! Yes. And marketing is a business.

But Trump is just so so so gauche! What gave it away, the gold plated everything? The giant TRUMP on Trump tower? Really, hadn't noticed that in any of the hundreds and hundreds of stories about it over the years.

The NYT really seemed to think this story was news rather than something that is part and parcel of American pop culture. Trump lost so much money that he told Marla that if the bum over there had a nickel he was richer than Trump. And then Trump went out and made more money and made the banks his bitches by owing them so much they had to restructure. Whether any of that is true is irrelevant. It's part of American lore.

And those idiots had no fucking clue.

Our Betters, ladies and gents.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 08, 2019 07:26 PM (GbPPJ)

41 Jeff Bezos lost $143 Billion in one day.

Let's look at his tax returns!

....

Plus he sent a dic pic.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 08, 2019 07:26 PM (zX0bZ)

42 The guy who really twists my titties is Joe (Jugghead) Scarborough.

Can anyone get as suckophantic as this guy?

It makes you realize how close so called Republican Representatives are to actually being Democrats.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:25 PM (XmlCz)

The joke ( and it is on us) that putt was once considered a good republican...sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 08, 2019 07:26 PM (Y+V3r)

43 PDJT told the story of these losses often during the election, and how he once, while out walking with Marla Maples (I believe he said) told her a homeless dude they saw was $900 million richer than they.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Live! And in color! at May 08, 2019 07:27 PM (Z216Q)

44 Illicit tax viewing is the new tentacle porn
Posted by: Regular joe at May 08, 2019 07:24 PM (6/uwW)
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From time to time I have to convince my wife it exists.

Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at May 08, 2019 07:27 PM (vDqXW)

45 we need a special counsel to see if any laws were broken by anyone. or make some up.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at May 08, 2019 07:27 PM (JziUy)

46 Math? One potato, two potato, three potato, four.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at May 08, 2019 07:27 PM (EgshT)

47
hey, Jewells

Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 08, 2019 07:27 PM (26G1N)

48 Plus he sent a dic pic.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 08, 2019 07:26 PM (zX0bZ)

Yes but it was sent Prime over night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 08, 2019 07:27 PM (Y+V3r)

49

Where are Joe Biden's medical records?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 08, 2019 07:28 PM (aKsyK)

50 Trump told us all of this, in his book, in the '90's.

Does any Democrat read?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 08, 2019 07:28 PM (sy5kK)

51 Jeff Bezos lost $143 Billion in one day

And about 140 pounds.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 08, 2019 07:28 PM (VDb57)

52 How about we take a look at the tax returns of members of Congress? Somehow they all seem to become multi-millionaires on a Congressman's salary.

Posted by: rickl at May 08, 2019 07:28 PM (sdi6R)

53 I've betting that since Trump is an all powerful authoritarian dictator who doesn't plan on relinquishing the vast amounts of power he holds (or so I'm told), he'll be able to get to the bottom of this leak right away.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 08, 2019 07:29 PM (QS3Sf)

54 And those idiots had no fucking clue.

Our Betters, ladies and gents.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 08, 2019 07:26 PM (GbPPJ)
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Well said.

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:29 PM (vDqXW)

55 Hey everybody.

Just learned Joe Biden is right now not too far from my neck of the woods, in SoCal. An hour ago ABC7 reported he visited King Taco, a legendary Mexican joint in the Pico-Union district.

I can imagine Joe's order now. "Can I get extra mayo?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2019 07:29 PM (miE9U)

56 Rush played a clip of the first Celebrity Apprentice opening from 2004 and DJT says he was in serious debt yet pulled himself out of it.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2019 07:29 PM (BbGew)

57 that's pretty much my understanding of math.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 08, 2019 07:24 PM (xPJvm)

Using General Relativity to describe the singularity at the center of a black hole the end result of the equation is infinity. Ehhh. Wrong answer.
Using Quantum Mechanics to describe the singularity at the center of a black hole the end result of the equation is infinity x infinity x infinity sort of forever. Ehhh... Wrong answer again.

It drives physicists nuts. (Basically it comes down to dividing by zero)

Posted by: Old Blue at May 08, 2019 07:30 PM (gEvQ8)

58 Where are Joe Biden's medical records?

That's a legitimate question.

Posted by: Near-Zombie RBG at May 08, 2019 07:30 PM (EgshT)

59 If you are worth a trillion dollars and you still have to text dic pics in some pathetic hopes of scoring, what hope is there for the rest of us.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 08, 2019 07:30 PM (zX0bZ)

60 The only good to come out of this is that the MSM's impotence is now apparent to everyone but the MSM.

They are going to wake up one day in 2020 with their angry dreams dashed yet again. I look forward to their next level spaz attack.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2019 07:30 PM (cXV7n)

61 And yet somehow no one can find any records of Obama in college. Or even anyone who knew him then. (I think there were a few that said they knew OF him but never saw him saying, doing, in class or wherever.)

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:30 PM (XmlCz)

62 Any number of Trump's properties are worth tens, if not hundreds of millions.

The NYT is filled with fucking morons, and they haven't risen to the standard of a much better article Forbes wrote years ago.

Posted by: trev006 at May 08, 2019 07:30 PM (OnEJV)

63 CROWNING THE COMEBACK KING (NY Times 1995)
https://is.gd/w4n8lZ

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 08, 2019 07:30 PM (4e+hS)

64 Rush played a clip of the first Celebrity Apprentice opening from 2004 and DJT says he was in serious debt yet pulled himself out of it.
Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2019 07:29 PM (BbGew)
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I sense a COVERUP!

Posted by: Piss-stream Media at May 08, 2019 07:30 PM (vDqXW)

65 It takes 100,000 people to get a review at the White House site.

Let's see Pelosi's returns.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 08, 2019 07:31 PM (bFSXM)

66 Plus he sent a dic pic.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

nope, that was his face

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 08, 2019 07:31 PM (d7Ww2)

67 ...and Bill di Blasio's wife lost $850 million in taxpayer money for a mental health program she was managing, or really, "managing" since she could not say where the money went nor provide any statistical evidence/metrics showing the program actually did what it set out to do, even a teeny tiny bit of difference.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2019 07:31 PM (W+vEI)

68 It's like the Dems think it's a valid excuse that somebody appears to have stolen their brain.

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:31 PM (vDqXW)

69 Correction- Bezos lost about $38 Billion in one day.

Posted by: LASue at May 08, 2019 07:32 PM (XROPS)

70 nope, that was his face

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 08, 2019 07:31 PM (d7Ww2)
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Chris Hahn?

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:32 PM (vDqXW)

71 Hillary "lost," what, $6 Billion while at State?
She wins the conman award, in my book.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2019 07:32 PM (W+vEI)

72 gee, if anything, opening up sealed records is the story of obama.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at May 08, 2019 07:32 PM (JziUy)

73 Weird the leaked returns stopped in 1994.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 08, 2019 07:32 PM (4e+hS)

74 "That's when it hit me. These idiots who think they know so much about
how to run America have no familiarity at all with American pop culture.
None."

________

That ain't the only subject they're unfamiliar with. These are the people that think The Rich are bad for the economy because "they take money out of the economy".

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 08, 2019 07:33 PM (QS3Sf)

75 Rush played a clip of the first Celebrity Apprentice opening from 2004 and DJT says he was in serious debt yet pulled himself out of it.
Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2019 07:29 PM (BbGew)

Yup. I saw a ton of people setting their hair on fire on the Twat machine about how I told focus groups in 2016 that Trump was a terrible businessman and lost all that money and they didn't care!

They didn't care because, you see, those self same people noticed that Trump managed to, get this, make more money.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 08, 2019 07:33 PM (GbPPJ)

76 riddle:

what's worth over one hundred Billion dollars, and looks like an erect circumcised penis with beady eyes?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 08, 2019 07:34 PM (sy5kK)

77 Where it all went wrong is when we let the teachers unionize.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:34 PM (XmlCz)

78 My whole understanding of math is as follows:
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, four.
Five tequila, six tequila seven tequila, floor.
Thus endeth the lesson.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 08, 2019 07:34 PM (gEvQ8)

79
Paul Allen lost 8 billion in bad investments

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2019 07:34 PM (TAmPV)

80 Correction- Bezos lost about $38 Billion in one day.
Posted by: LASue at May 08, 2019 07:32 PM (XROPS)

Still lost 140 pounds.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 08, 2019 07:34 PM (VDb57)

81 It's like democrats live in bizzarro world, where fiction outstrips the truth. I really believe we are watching a party in psychological crisis.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2019 07:35 PM (VkWRL)

82 I love how Congress is incensed that (orange) people are following the Laws that they, themselves passed.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2019 07:35 PM (hjpzi)

83 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 08, 2019 07:34 PM (sy5kK)

That prick that keeps trying to sell me a Prime account on Amazon?

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:35 PM (XmlCz)

84 Lizzy . she didn't lose anything. That money is in Qatar with her and Barky and Kerry's name on the account.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 08, 2019 07:35 PM (bFSXM)

85 81 It's like democrats live in bizzarro world, where fiction outstrips the truth. I really believe we are watching a party in psychological crisis.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2019 07:35 PM (VkWRL)

the Democratic Party is neither a party, nor is it democratic.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 08, 2019 07:36 PM (sy5kK)

86 I really believe we are watching a party in psychological crisis.
Posted by: Marcus T

May it never end.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2019 07:36 PM (cXV7n)

87 Just learned Joe Biden is right now not too far from my neck of the woods, in SoCal. An hour ago ABC7 reported he visited King Taco, a legendary Mexican joint in the Pico-Union district.
.........

I hope he gives "whatever is in his pocket" to the homeless folks.

Posted by: wth at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (v0R5T)

88 >>Lizzy . she didn't lose anything. That money is in Qatar with her and Barky and Kerry's name on the account.

Heh, that would make sense.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (W+vEI)

89 Time to hydrate.

Posted by: Near-Zombie RBG at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (EgshT)

90 >>It's like democrats live in bizzarro world, where fiction outstrips the truth. I really believe we are watching a party in psychological crisis.

They stuck their dick in craazy.

And crazy swam up their piss tube like a tiny, angry South American fish.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (hjpzi)

91 What they're doing to Trump and his family is criminal. What they're doing to this country is seditious. Enemies of the people.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (7+QLY)

92 I really believe we are watching a party in psychological crisis.

Posted by: Marcus T
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In reality fugue.

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (vDqXW)

93 My rule of thumb is that if an organization (or state) has Democrat or Republic in it's name? It's neither Democratic or Republican in action.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (XmlCz)

94
all this talk of losses & stuff....

SQUIRREL!!!!

Posted by: Paul Krugman, Enron Chief Economic Adviser at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (26G1N)

95 78 My whole understanding of math is as follows:
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, four.
Five tequila, six tequila seven tequila, floor.
Thus endeth the lesson.
Posted by: Old Blue at May 08, 2019 07:34 PM (gEvQ

you are the new AoS math teacher.

congrats!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (sy5kK)

96 Our Betters, ladies and gents.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 08, 2019 07:26 PM (GbPPJ)

They're stuck with the only rule book they know. Alinsky never said what would happen if you opponent decided to throw out the rule book as well.

They just hate it that electing Trump was us playing their game. They wanted us to play by The Rules that Republicans are supposed to play by. Well, people got fed up with that because as is obvious everyday, the Democrats don't play by The Rules.

Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (J70i0)

97 I don't think I've ever shown a loss on my business in about 25 years. Damn near breaks even most years though.

Posted by: freaked at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (UdKB7)

98 Remember me, the CIA dude who was going to deprive Drumpf of Utah in 2016? I'm still around and giving *very, very* important commentary.

https://tinyurl.com/y3e9djsr

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (Ta69/)

99 Alton are you the Michigan MoMe? Did I contact you about some ette swag?

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 08, 2019 07:38 PM (dUJdY)

100 democrats: obama wuz scandal free

also democrats: barr facing obstruction is a scandal for potus.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at May 08, 2019 07:38 PM (JziUy)

101 I've been to King Taco.

Posted by: Ha at May 08, 2019 07:38 PM (MAstk)

102 ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2019 07:38 PM (7+QLY)

103 I have never lost a billion dollars.

Posted by: Weasel at May 08, 2019 07:39 PM (MVjcR)

104 Just learned Joe Biden is right now not too far from my neck of the woods, in SoCal. An hour ago ABC7 reported he visited King Taco, a legendary Mexican joint in the Pico-Union district.

I can imagine Joe's order now. "Can I get extra mayo?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 08, 2019 07:29 PM (miE9U)
.........

he probably ordered a hot dog.

Posted by: wth at May 08, 2019 07:39 PM (v0R5T)

105 They just hate it that electing Trump was us playing their game. They wanted us to play by The Rules that Republicans are supposed to play by. Well, people got fed up with that because as is obvious everyday, the Democrats don't play by The Rules.

Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 08, 2019 07:37 PM (J70i0)
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And the Republicans just flat out don't play.

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:39 PM (vDqXW)

106 he probably ordered a hot dog.
Posted by: wth at May 08, 2019 07:39 PM (v0R5T)
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I heard he's upset they don't serve them with paste.

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:39 PM (vDqXW)

107 Lizzy, Suha Arafat left the West Bank with 2 billion dollars. Killary was her best friend.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 08, 2019 07:40 PM (bFSXM)

108 >> I have never lost a billion dollars.

Well, then you haven't truly lived have you?

Posted by: The honorable John Corzine at May 08, 2019 07:40 PM (hjpzi)

109 Trump got $15 million from his father that's a bad thing.

How much of the billion Carlos Slim "loaned" to the NYT has been paid?
And how much has been "forgiven" (a gift) for the kind coverage they've given him?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at May 08, 2019 07:40 PM (TN1P5)

110 >>he probably ordered a hot dog.

Coming right up!

Posted by: Chris Hayes at May 08, 2019 07:40 PM (hjpzi)

111 Global Warming is the culprit responsible for the rise in windfall and tidal taxes.

Posted by: Fritz at May 08, 2019 07:40 PM (LuPts)

112 On a lighter note, Marla did say that Trump was the best lover she ever had.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2019 07:41 PM (7+QLY)

113 I wonder if Joe will take a tour of Tent City downtown and shower them with handfuls of dimes.

Posted by: wth at May 08, 2019 07:41 PM (v0R5T)

114 By the by, anybody seen Shitty Swan today? My "handler" told me of an activity that I can watch with xe that involves another man's wife tailpipe being serviced by a strange dude.

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at May 08, 2019 07:41 PM (Ta69/)

115 It's like democrats live in bizzarro world, where
fiction outstrips the truth. I really believe we are watching a party in
psychological crisis.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2019 07:35 PM (VkWRL)

No, they're deadly serious. Go read the Rotten Chestnuts guy. Until recently he taught at the university level. He has some pretty good insights into the absolute madness of the professors and students. They are stuck in a religious belief system and nothing will dissuade them.

Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at May 08, 2019 07:42 PM (J70i0)

116 103
I have never lost a billion dollars.

Posted by: Weasel at May 08, 2019 07:39 PM (MVjcR)

You just haven't been trying hard enough.

If you owe the bank $10,000 and can't pay, you've got a problem.

If you owe the bank $10,000,000 and can't pay, the BANK has a problem.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:42 PM (XmlCz)

117 On a lighter note, Marla did say that Trump was the best lover she ever had.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2019 07:41 PM (7+QLY)
........

#OrangeManGood

Posted by: wth at May 08, 2019 07:42 PM (v0R5T)

118 On a lighter note, Marla did say that Trump was the best lover she ever had.
Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2019 07:41 PM (7+QLY)

The dude knows how to grab some nice pussy.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 08, 2019 07:42 PM (VDb57)

119
I send dic pics too guys, stop teasing! I even serenade my boyfriend when I'm FaceTiming dic pics!

This one goes out to the one-eyed love,
This one goes out to one with cleft behind,
A limp lil' cock, to occupy your time,
This one goes out to the one-eyed love

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at May 08, 2019 07:42 PM (zX0bZ)

120 >>Marla did say that Trump was the best lover she ever had.

Guy like Trump mandates that in the Divorce Settlement. It's just smart negotiation.

If you are already paying her, why not get some good publicity and market share?

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2019 07:42 PM (hjpzi)

121 Thanks Dawg.
OK, class. Class. Class.

CLASSS!!!!!!

Posted by: Old Blue at May 08, 2019 07:42 PM (gEvQ8)

122 It's a Democrats prerogative to change xer mind.

Posted by: The DNC at May 08, 2019 07:42 PM (vDqXW)

123 Y'know what's funny?

The NYT is claiming that Trump being bankrupt all those times utterly destroys his credibility.
You know who's saying that?
The New York Times, that has been a bankruptcy in motion for several decades now, propped up by sugar daddies and benevolent billionaires.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 08, 2019 07:42 PM (oVJmc)

124 The Left is waging a war of images and narrative - not facts.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at May 08, 2019 07:43 PM (F6tBH)

125 the left is doing it's version of the movie Groundhog's Day .... they keep repeating the same things, except the rest of the world is not in their time warp. So many that have not yet lost their minds, are realizing how crazed the left is, ... and hopefully realizing what they are really doing is trying to cover up their own criminal activity.

They want to hold Barr in contempt for nothing ... how about Holder/Lynch/Mueller ... the fake attack on Trump with contrived evidence, and all the left can do is scream louder at Barr. Holder/Lynch/Mueller ran a coup (and Rosie is probably central to it, per John Solomon's last interview with Judicial Watch).

They are counterattacking again, in advance of the coming (we hope) indictments. The first major counterattack was against Trump, to forestall and mitigate the indictments coming (hopefully) against Hillary's Cartel. "She should be locked up"

Posted by: illiniwek at May 08, 2019 07:43 PM (Cus5s)

126 Brand Exposure, not market Share...jesus.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2019 07:44 PM (hjpzi)

127 Orangeman long and wide and goes at it like a jack hammer.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:44 PM (XmlCz)

128 >>Trump got $15 million from his father that's a bad thing.

Tell me how Chelsea Clinton paid $10 million for her fabulous NYC apartment and why, after bouncing from job to job every few years, she ended up with an executive position in. . .the family's foundation.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2019 07:44 PM (W+vEI)

129 I really believe we are watching a party in psychological crisis.

Self-administered illegal drugs +
Toxoplasmosis +
constantly attempting to wish reality away +
being taught to react with 110% rage to any little sleight against their leftist religion =

One huge psychological mess.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 08, 2019 07:44 PM (9t0Zz)

130
Jewells, I'm the second chief assistant, junior grade for the MiMoMe, but you did not contact me

mayhaps you've been in touch with hogmartin?

anyhoo, click my nick for my e-mail

Posted by: Paul Krugman, Enron Chief Economic Adviser at May 08, 2019 07:44 PM (26G1N)

131 Tell me how Chelsea Clinton paid $10 million for her fabulous NYC apartment and why, after bouncing from job to job every few years, she ended up with an executive position in. . .the family's foundation.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2019 07:44 PM (W+vEI)

As Rush says, the only foundation in history where the founders started out poor and ended up filthy rich.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 08, 2019 07:45 PM (GbPPJ)

132 mayhaps you've been in touch with hogmartin?

Yes, I have and he has the goods.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 08, 2019 07:46 PM (dUJdY)

133 I persisted.

Posted by: Chelsea Hubbel at May 08, 2019 07:46 PM (EgshT)

134 (probably should have removed the sock first)

Jewells, I'm the second chief assistant, junior grade for the MiMoMe, but you did not contact me

mayhaps you've been in touch with hogmartin?

anyhoo, click my nick for my e-mail

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 08, 2019 07:46 PM (26G1N)

135 did the Clintons' ever give that furniture back to the White House?

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:46 PM (XmlCz)

136 At least I think he does. Shit.. my brain is NOT firing on all cylinders lately.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 08, 2019 07:47 PM (dUJdY)

137 I persisted.
Posted by: Chelsea Hubbel

Like a bad dose of the clap.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 08, 2019 07:47 PM (gkstg)

138 >>Suha Arafat left the West Bank with 2 billion dollars. Killary was her best friend.

Oh, riiiiight!

Always amazed how the Palestinians are begging for foreign aid while their leaders are rolling in the dough. Remember when Trump cut off the aid Obama promised in his last hours in office, and the new Palestinian leader had *just* bought himself a $40 million private plane?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2019 07:47 PM (W+vEI)

139 They were like a lot of tenants. When they move out they even take the light bulbs.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:47 PM (XmlCz)

140 Alton, check with him but yes I do believe I already sent him the stuff. I've tried to catch everyone.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 08, 2019 07:48 PM (dUJdY)

141 135, I believe they were forced to. But my memory may be failing me. Hard to keep track of all the graft and criminality.

Posted by: Infidel at May 08, 2019 07:48 PM (izYMI)

142 Air Force One looked like a school bus once we were done with it. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at May 08, 2019 07:48 PM (EgshT)

143 >>I believe they were forced to. But my memory may be failing me. Hard to keep track of all the graft and criminality.

Yes, they did.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2019 07:49 PM (W+vEI)

144
good deal, Jewells

Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 08, 2019 07:49 PM (26G1N)

145 Have I gone back in time and it's the 2016 Republican primary?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 08, 2019 07:50 PM (2DOZq)

146 My wealth is not measured in mere dollars.

Posted by: AG Sulzberger at May 08, 2019 07:50 PM (hjaPQ)

147 Air Force One looked like a school bus once we were done with it. *hic*

Full of green pleather seats and no seatbelts?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 08, 2019 07:50 PM (9t0Zz)

148 you know, when you start working you learn that bankruptcy is not really as terrible as everyone thinks it is.

sure it is not desirable but the bankruptcy law in the U.S. is a strength and meaningful contributor to the success of our economy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 08, 2019 07:50 PM (MTjB1)

149 Michael Delaney has the perfect tweet on Trump's losses:
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Can you imagine wasting THAT MUCH on a Presidential campaign and losing?!
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Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:51 PM (vDqXW)

150 Democrats and their Chinese masters just pushed out the narrative that China's unreasonable, last minute, unexpected change of trade deal demands is Trump's fault. You know because Trump blabs on Twatter and they saw that as a sign he was ready for concessions.

*punches self in face*

Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2019 07:51 PM (VkWRL)

151 > "Where are Joe Biden's medical records?"

Including any psychiatric records.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 08, 2019 07:51 PM (DwzBO)

152 Sooooooooooooo, I just figured out why the DemonRats are so hot to find Barr in contempt.

They figure that the issue will eventually get to the Supreme Court.

Guess whose mother, the late Anne McGill Gorsuch, was held in contempt of congress back in 1982 while she was head of the EPA?

Recusal of Gorsuch on the issue.

5 to 3 against the Administration with Roberts on the side of the CommieLibs.

Wheels within wheels, man.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 08, 2019 07:51 PM (fdxBF)

153 >>sure it is not desirable but the bankruptcy law in the U.S. is a strength and meaningful contributor to the success of our economy.

It mitigates risk.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2019 07:52 PM (hjpzi)

154 Jennifer Franco @jennfranconews
4m
#BREAKING: The House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed the Justice Department for the full Mueller report and all underlying evidence, and is giving Attorney General William Barr until May 15th to comply.

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 08, 2019 07:52 PM (BqBId)

155 Remember when they used to teach history and everybody knew how Lincoln filed bankrupty?

You know the kind of people who never file bankrupty?

The kind that never take big risks.

Now. The reason they are circling back to the bankrupty is this:

They think there is proof the Russians somehow paid off Trump's creditors in the bankrupty and something something now he owes them
As was "explained" to me, the proof is: You don't just come back from a bankrupty like he did.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at May 08, 2019 07:52 PM (TN1P5)

156 sure it is not desirable but the bankruptcy law in the U.S. is a strength and meaningful contributor to the success of our economy.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 08, 2019 07:50 PM (MTjB1)
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It's designed on the Hebrew Years of Jubilee model.

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:52 PM (vDqXW)

157 Note, this information was stolen and given to the Times.

The Times had ASKED for this information. Has been chasing it for years.

Julian Assange published stolen information, and is accused of ASKING for said information.

He is currently under arrest.

Strange double Legal standard here, isn't it?

Posted by: Don Q at May 08, 2019 07:52 PM (NgKpN)

158 40 I was pointing out to the idiots on the Twats last night that it is, literally, a part of Trump's schtick that he lost everything and came back. You can tell this by subtle things like one of his books being called The Art of the Comeback.

Other people were sending the NYT copies of the stories that the NYT ran about Trump in the mid to late 90's talking about his rallying back from a billion dollar hole.

That's when it hit me. These idiots who think they know so much about how to run America have no familiarity at all with American pop culture. None.

Trump has been a part of American pop culture for, what, 40 years? That's why the but but but he's so immoral wailing by French et al doesn't move the needle. Yes, Donald Trump is a womanizer. His name is nigh to synonymous with it. This has been known longer than some of the people crying about it have been alive.

Oh noes Trump is not a great businessman, why, he lost money running a casino! My dudes, that joke was played out in 1995. And yet, for being such a terrible businessman, he sure as hell seemed to be able to leverage his name into a hit tv show. But it's all marketing! Yes. And marketing is a business.

But Trump is just so so so gauche! What gave it away, the gold plated everything? The giant TRUMP on Trump tower? Really, hadn't noticed that in any of the hundreds and hundreds of stories about it over the years.

The NYT really seemed to think this story was news rather than something that is part and parcel of American pop culture. Trump lost so much money that he told Marla that if the bum over there had a nickel he was richer than Trump. And then Trump went out and made more money and made the banks his bitches by owing them so much they had to restructure. Whether any of that is true is irrelevant. It's part of American lore.

And those idiots had no fucking clue.

Our Betters, ladies and gents.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 08, 2019 07:26 PM (GbPPJ)

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Epic rant to be read on every Trump Day.

Posted by: MAGA at May 08, 2019 07:52 PM (I5LRE)

159 #BREAKING: The House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed the Justice Department for the full Mueller report and all underlying evidence, and is giving Attorney General William Barr until May 15th to comply.

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 08, 2019 07:52 PM (BqBId)
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And what army?

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 07:53 PM (vDqXW)

160 Tell me how Chelsea Clinton paid $10 million for her fabulous NYC apartment and why, after bouncing from job to job every few years, she ended up with an executive position in. . .the family's foundation.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2019 07:44 PM (W+vEI)

Well she does get paid 600k a year being on the board of directors for two companies where all she has to do is go to 8 meetings a year.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 08, 2019 07:53 PM (2DOZq)

161 Madcow had Trump's 2005 return, he paid 35 Million for that year.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2019 07:53 PM (7+QLY)

162 154 Jennifer Franco @jennfranconews
4m
#BREAKING: The House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed the Justice Department for the full Mueller report and all underlying evidence, and is giving Attorney General William Barr until May 15th to comply.
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 08, 2019 07:52 PM (BqBId)

Wait, didn't they already vote that Barr was in Contempt?

BEFORE they gave him a subpoena? How does that work?

Posted by: Don Q at May 08, 2019 07:54 PM (NgKpN)

163 sure it is not desirable but the bankruptcy law in the U.S. is a strength and meaningful contributor to the success of our economy.
Posted by: yankeefifth

It does allow entrepreneurs to take risks, but I would be up for reopening debtors' prisons for Gender Studies majors who can't repay their student loans.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 08, 2019 07:54 PM (gkstg)

164 Chapter 7
Chapter9
Chapter 11

Telling Chase bank to fuck off on an unsecured loan.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 08, 2019 07:54 PM (bFSXM)

165 Do you think the 12 year olds at the Times and WSJ who are writing these stories really think people believe them?

Nah.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2019 07:54 PM (VkWRL)

166 america is great again thanks to our POTUS.

this story is trash.

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 08, 2019 07:54 PM (DGS6j)

167 Next up in the NYT!

Steve Jobs founded NEXT Computer in the 1980's, which went on to lose a billion dollars!

This proves that Steve Jobs is a Russian agent!

Posted by: The ARC of History at May 08, 2019 07:54 PM (I2/tG)

168 @55
Just learned Joe Biden is right now not too far from my neck of the woods, in SoCal. An hour ago ABC7 reported he visited King Taco, a legendary Mexican joint in the Pico-Union district.

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I think it's a chain. I know of one in Pasadena, as well.
Pretty good Mexican fast food (and real Mexican food; not Taco Bell or Del Taco style stuff).

Posted by: junior at May 08, 2019 07:55 PM (07FTu)

169 $100 million, eh?

Posted by: Dr. Evil at May 08, 2019 07:55 PM (q1Pj5)

170 #BREAKING: The House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed the Justice Department for the full Mueller report and all underlying evidence, and is giving Attorney General William Barr until May 15th to comply.

Their subpoena is for protected documents and as such is in violation of US Code.

See you in Court. Another Co-Equal Branch of Government, Bitches.

Posted by: Executive Branch at May 08, 2019 07:55 PM (hjpzi)

171 reopening debtors' prisons for Gender Studies majors who can't repay their student loans.

Those debts aren't dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Tee hee!

Posted by: The US Government! at May 08, 2019 07:55 PM (I2/tG)

172 Sorry if already mentioned. The left will use the tax data to identify PDT's partners and go after them.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 08, 2019 07:56 PM (0tfLf)

173 And 100% of the people reading the NYT and nodding could not tell you one damned thing about the difference between Chapter 11 and Chapter 7/13.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at May 08, 2019 07:56 PM (TN1P5)

174 If I were Barr, I would show up, moon the committee, pull up my pants, say "thank you" into the mic, then leave. On the way out I would let one rip and waive it at them.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2019 07:57 PM (VkWRL)

175 didn't they already cite him for contempt for ignoring a subpoena? What are these clownfarts doing?

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2019 07:57 PM (7+QLY)

176 Democrats and their Chinese masters just pushed out the narrative that China's unreasonable, last minute, unexpected change of trade deal demands is Trump's fault. You know because Trump blabs on Twatter and they saw that as a sign he was ready for concessions.

*punches self in face*
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2019 07:51 PM (VkWRL)

Strange how the week that Joe Biden enters the Presidential race as the Dem front runner.

And says that China is not a threat.

China suddenly reneges on deals made with Trump.

What a coin-ki-dink!

Posted by: Don Q at May 08, 2019 07:58 PM (NgKpN)

177 Have I gone back in time and it's the 2016 Republican primary?

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well, the left's gonna keep acting like it's nov2016 and trump is an unknown quantity.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at May 08, 2019 07:58 PM (JziUy)

178 I know how this story ends.

Posted by: Ayn Rand at May 08, 2019 07:58 PM (F0l0a)

179 I love that the demonrats have held Barr in contempt. They did the same to Holder over Fast and Furious and in addition the Magic Negro invoked Executive Privilege on any and all of the information about that failed scam. If you look about you, Eric Holder is out trying to raise funds to defeat Trump. So tell me again how much this contempt citation is going work?

Posted by: Old Blue at May 08, 2019 07:59 PM (gEvQ8)

180 And the DOJ recommended that Trump declare the Mueller report and all the investigation files are covered by executive privilege.

So he did.

Now they can go to the SCOTUS where there are loads of precedent for them to follow.

Meanwhile back on the House Floor, Pelosi (who's face is looking like an old boot up close) is getting ready to take a vote on impeachment but she's pushing back a bit cause like the lack of obstruction charges in the Mueller Report, they're not as clear cut as CNN wants you to believe they are.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 07:59 PM (XmlCz)

181 When didn't Obama exert Executive Privilege?

He still has all of his shit in hiding while they fail to build his Library.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2019 08:00 PM (hjpzi)

182 you know, the funny thing about the chicom decision to reneg is that they are likely relying on the mfm and their deep state sources / traitors for their information.

their trusted sources are likely sincerely feeding them the wrong information that the chicom reneg will cost Trump the election.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 08, 2019 08:01 PM (MTjB1)

183 What's funny is that Congress has no enforcement arm.

Well actually, they do. It's the DOJ. So if the DOJ says "No we're not arresting our Attorney General or turning over documents that by law can't reveal GJ testimony or proceedings". What can they do?

Stand there and say: "What me worry?".

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at May 08, 2019 08:01 PM (XmlCz)

184 Belittle the End Times if you must, but, from where I sit, everything appears to be right on schedule.

Jesus said that he could not tell us the time of his return, but he could give the season. He said that the generation of the fig tree - those alive when Israel again became a nation - would not pass from this Earth without him returning. Israel became a nation again about 2 weeks after I was born. Given a generation is about 120 years, that puts a time frame not much after 2068 - although life extension technology could stretch that out, or if we get BernieCare killing all the old people off, maybe AOC is right about it being 12 years from now.

Posted by: An Observation at May 08, 2019 08:02 PM (zxNF6)

185 I like ketchup on hot dogs.

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2019 08:02 PM (q177U)

186 These are old tax returns. If the last five years were released, they might reveal items the IRS completely missed, like "Extortion payment to V. Putin" or something.

Also the names of any business associates or charities that should be harassed. That too.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 08, 2019 08:02 PM (xth7t)

187
The House has the Capitol Police.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2019 08:02 PM (mbNBu)

188 178 I know how this story ends.
Posted by: Ayn Rand at May 08, 2019 07:58 PM (F0l0a)

Trump's Gulch?

Posted by: Don Q at May 08, 2019 08:03 PM (NgKpN)

189 Biden's gonna hold the taco upside down.

Posted by: Ktgreat at May 08, 2019 08:03 PM (f8ilN)

190 And says that China is not a threat.

China suddenly reneges on deals made with Trump.

What a coin-ki-dink!
Posted by: Don Q at May 08, 2019 07:58 PM (NgKpN)
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Sounds like a good test for Logan.

Posted by: Axeman at May 08, 2019 08:04 PM (vDqXW)

191 Not possible for me to truly describe how much I hate the media.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 08, 2019 08:04 PM (H8QX8)

192 Biden's gonna hold the taco upside down.
Posted by: Ktgreat

Sounds hawt.

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at May 08, 2019 08:04 PM (gkstg)

193 >>>their trusted sources are likely sincerely feeding them the wrong information that the chicom reneg will cost Trump the election.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 08, 2019 08:01 PM (MTjB1)

Yes, I am extremely interested in how this will play out. They don't really have the "flyover country" take on things that 90% of the country (geographically speaking) has.

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2019 08:04 PM (q177U)

194 Trish the Dish says Trump to speak at Florida rally real-soon-now...

Posted by: transplant at May 08, 2019 08:05 PM (K1IUD)

195 Just had training this morning on handling of Federal Income Tax information. Having these documents is a felony. There's no "freedom" of the press here. I hope DOJ goes after them.

Posted by: David C at May 08, 2019 08:05 PM (5uXrb)

196
I know how this story ends.

Posted by: Ayn Rand at May 08, 2019 07:58 PM

could you tell us in less than 1,183 pages?

Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 08, 2019 08:06 PM (26G1N)

197 Who says God doesn't have a sense of humor? Which of the Trumps of revelation do you think Donald is?

Posted by: An Observation at May 08, 2019 08:06 PM (zxNF6)

198 Speaking of the news media, I'm not sure this TV station hit quite the right tone in this story.

WSB-TV
@wsbtv
Two prostitutes have been murdered in the same community - and neighbors are fed up. They say the prostitution still runs rampant and despite years of complaints, nothing's been done. TODAY AT 5: What we found when we set up undercover cameras.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 08, 2019 08:06 PM (+y/Ru)

199 I don't know who that Steve Robinson guy is, but I like the cut of his jib.

Posted by: bluebell at May 08, 2019 08:06 PM (aXucN)

200 198 Speaking of the news media, I'm not sure this TV station hit quite the right tone in this story.

WSB-TV
@wsbtv
Two prostitutes have been murdered in the same community - and neighbors are fed up. They say the prostitution still runs rampant and despite years of complaints, nothing's been done. TODAY AT 5: What we found when we set up undercover cameras.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 08, 2019 08:06 PM (+y/Ru)

Murder? Meh. Prostitution? ZOMG!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 08, 2019 08:07 PM (NWiLs)

201 Trump is in Florida.

http://tinyurl.com/y3ekohu5

Posted by: dartist at May 08, 2019 08:07 PM (K22Va)

202 "173
And 100% of the people reading the NYT and nodding could not tell you
one damned thing about the difference between Chapter 11 and Chapter
7/13.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at May 08, 2019 07:56 PM (TN1P5)"
Objective reality doesn't exist in lefty-land. All that matters is nodding at whatever is the correct thing to nod at today.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at May 08, 2019 08:09 PM (eAshZ)

203 Scalia's third cousin once dated someone who was the brother of another mother who filed bankruptcy in the tri-state area municipality. Recusal, baby!

Recusal FEVAH!

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2019 08:09 PM (q177U)

204 Panama City! 4 more years!

Posted by: transplant at May 08, 2019 08:10 PM (K1IUD)

205 doesn't Trump's declaring executive privilege nullify the subpoena from the House? I thought that is why he did it, on counsel from Barr. They now have no legal authority.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 08, 2019 08:10 PM (Cus5s)

206 As much as I despise the NYT, it was announced today that they have 4.5 million subscribers and have established a goal of 10 million subscribers by 2025.

Posted by: mercenary13 at May 08, 2019 08:11 PM (7a6TH)

207 Jennifer Franco @jennfranconews
4m
#BREAKING: The House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed the Justice Department for the full Mueller report and all underlying evidence, and is giving Attorney General William Barr until May 15th to comply.
Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at May 08, 2019 07:52 PM (BqBId)

Wait, didn't they already vote that Barr was in Contempt?

BEFORE they gave him a subpoena? How does that work?
Posted by: Don Q at May 08, 2019 07:54 PM (NgKpN)

And You're in Contempt! And You're in Contempt! And You're in Contempt!!

Posted by: Nadless Oprah at May 08, 2019 08:11 PM (XROPS)

208

nood?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2019 08:12 PM (gb1X2)

209 196
I know how this story ends.

Posted by: Ayn Rand at May 08, 2019 07:58 PM

could you tell us in less than 1,183 pages?

Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 08, 2019 08:06 PM (26G1N)

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"By refusing to admit to themselves the nature of that which they are accepting; the people who support plans specifically designed to achieve serfdom, but hide behind the empty assertion that they are lovers of freedom, with no concrete meaning attached to the word ... They expect, when they find themselves in a world of bloody ruins and concentration camps, to escape moral responsibility by wailing: 'But I didn't mean this!'"

-- Ayn Rand

Posted by: ShainS -- Born Again Easter Worshipper at May 08, 2019 08:12 PM (WqPYg)

210 I just want to know how these tax documents are getting out. Maddow had some old ones now the Times has some old ones. If they had gotten these sooner, they would have released them.

So someone is feeding them info. Old info, but still info.

Posted by: Picric at May 08, 2019 08:13 PM (nonGu)

211 Along with the Apprentice opening, Klavan played an interview with Ivanka, from ages ago (90s, IIRC). She talked about walking with her father, who pointed to a homeless guy, and said "He's got billions more than I do." She said she was about 9 when that happened.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2019 08:13 PM (VaN/j)

212 206. yep they're counting on the caravan campesinos to come on board.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2019 08:13 PM (7+QLY)

213 Just had training this morning on handling of Federal Income Tax information. Having these documents is a felony.

Why yes, yes it is. Time to write up a felony complaint about the NY Times and its employees.

Posted by: An Observation at May 08, 2019 08:15 PM (zxNF6)

214 Paul Allen lost 8 billion in bad investments

I'm thinking that he doesn't care right now.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at May 08, 2019 08:15 PM (lD3vL)

215 Hmmm.

So the NYT goes to great lengths to say the word "legally."

That, my friends, is a tell:

The legal department told them the only way the could publish is if they got them legally.
Pentagon Papers decision DOES NOT apply.

Very interesting.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at May 08, 2019 08:16 PM (TN1P5)

216 doesn't Trump's declaring executive privilege nullify the subpoena from the House? I thought that is why he did it, on counsel from Barr. They now have no legal authority.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 08, 2019 08:10 PM (Cus5s)

Since when has that stopped them?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 08, 2019 08:21 PM (VDb57)

217 A select committee got the full report except the by law redaction, they got nothing to stand on.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2019 08:22 PM (BbGew)

218 Personal capital gains are treated the same way. Lots of people are still putting losses from 2008 against new gains they make ah year.

There is absolutely nothing mysterious about this. Also, I think the New York real estate market was off around 40% during those lean years. Lots of businesses larger than Trump's didn't survive, but he did.

Posted by: Thatch at May 08, 2019 08:23 PM (VKoWw)

219 Nood? Are you not sure or what?

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2019 08:24 PM (BbGew)

220 It does allow entrepreneurs to take risks, but I would be up for reopening debtors' prisons for Gender Studies majors who can't repay their student loans.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 08, 2019 07:54 PM (gkstg)

Indentured servitude.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 08, 2019 09:14 PM (P5U01)

221 This was the heart and soul of the Solyanda deal except that the developers intended to lose GOVERNMENT money and then take ownership of the tax losses for the whole deal. The IRS protested in bankruptcy court but lost.

Did you know you can sell tax losses for 25+ cents on the dollar in cash?

Posted by: Whitehall at May 09, 2019 01:04 AM (zvDvy)

222 how much money did hitlery lose as SoS?? that should be noteworthy.
dumbfux.

Posted by: yumper at May 09, 2019 08:33 AM (rNi/8)

223 I believe until recent years corporations could actually carry *back* the losses to a prior year when it had income and apply for an immediate refund.

One idea for allowing "carrybacks" was that the cash infusion from the refund would help the corporation survive a rough spell.

Posted by: Dennis at May 09, 2019 10:16 AM (7BSxy)

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