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Notre Dame Update: Firefighters Are Not Sure They Can Save the Cathedral; The Left Bell Tower Is Still Aflame; Fears Grow that the Ropes Holding the Massive Bells Will Fail and the Bells Will Smash Through the Remaining Wooden Supports
From LeFigaro's updates.
Via Fox, the "Great Bell," called "Emmanuel," is the most likely to come down. I don't want to spread fear, but while stone might be mostly impervious to fire, it won't necessarily be impervious to a very heavy copper bell smashing down into its foundations at an awful speed.
Notre Dame priest: all works of art have been saved. https://t.co/3fqpRoSdim
— Joe Concha (@JoeConchaTV) April 15, 2019
The Crown of Thorns is, supposedly, the actual crown of thorns worn by Jesus at his Crucifixion.
Fears are growing that Notre Dame’s most precious treasure, a relic venerated as the Crown of Thorns worn by Jesus Christ, could have been badly damaged or destroyed in the fire. The Crown of Thorns, considered Paris’s equivalent of the Crown Jewels, is stored at the end of a nave of the cathedral, not readily visible to visitors. Said to have been worn by Christ before the crucifixion, it is presented to believers for veneration on the first Friday of each month and every Friday during Lent.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 15, 2019 04:24 PM (xptlg)
@SecCivileFrance 45 minutes ago
Hundreds of firemen of the Paris Fire Brigade are doing everything they can to bring the terrible NotreDame fire under control. All means are being used, except for water-bombing aircrafts which, if used, could lead to the collapse of the entire structure of the cathedral.
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 04:24 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: jon at April 15, 2019 04:24 PM (VTpXr)
This is going to be one big rebuilding project.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick Up a Copy of The Daily Panic at The Outrage Outlet! at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (MIvvh)
This really is a terrible and sad event. I hope that they save some (several?) parts and rebuild.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (xptlg)
Posted by: jon at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (VTpXr)
Posted by: Burger Chef at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 04:26 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:26 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at April 15, 2019 04:26 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 15, 2019 04:26 PM (gjgWX)
Posted by: Picric at April 15, 2019 04:26 PM (nonGu)
Hear a commentator earlier on the news talking about how this was a symbol of French price. As a Catholic watching Catholicism dying in Europe I thought the Notre Dame in flames dying its death was the proper symbol of where France is today.
Posted by: H Badger at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (n/0Nw)
I don't want to spread fear, but while stone might be mostly impervious to fire,
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No it isnt.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (8XRCm)
This was deliberately set.
By Quakers.
Posted by: Czech Chick at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (wglOf)
I'm pretty certain a lot of questioners were asking about aerial fire-fighting,
not just Donald Trump.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick Up a Copy of The Daily Panic at The Outrage Outlet! at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (MIvvh)
Posted by: H Badger at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (n/0Nw)
@SecCivileFrance 45 minutes ago
Hundreds of firemen of the Paris Fire Brigade are doing everything they can to bring the terrible NotreDame fire under control. All means are being used, except for water-bombing aircrafts which, if used, could lead to the collapse of the entire structure of the cathedral.
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 04:24 PM (cF8AT)
haha, to be fair -- Trump kind of deserves it, no?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: jon at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (VTpXr)
Welcome! Sorry it took this to make you comment. Please continue to comment.
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 04:28 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 04:24 PM (cF8AT)
Wooooooow. If I was a Frenchman reading that, as hundreds of firefighters let the greater part of the cathedral burn, I'd have real reason to want that smug cuck dead.
Posted by: trev006 at April 15, 2019 04:28 PM (6n54H)
I am also confounded by the lack of spray. Is the area so tight that the engines could not get near? Most cities have equipment that could put a platform above the roof, but I see nothing.
When I first saw this, my first thought was that I wonder if they can drive a truck right into the nave - if the doors are big enough.
But the french seem to be waiting for rain or something.
Old roofs are mostly tar, and that shit has to be fought aggressively.
Old vaults are trusses, and that shit is horrible for fires.
I guess the french are spending all their money on something else besides firefighting equipment.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (r+sAi)
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No it isnt.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (8XRCm)
Yeah, I don't know enough about science or fire or rocks to say anything definitive, but I'm pretty sure all stones have a temperature at which they begin to crack / crumble and get fucky.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (GBteo)
Obviously, they didn't have sprinkler system when it was built, but surely they put in something lately as part of a retrofit or upgrade?
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (xptlg)
Posted by: Picric at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (nonGu)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (FSPNP)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (GBteo)
For what? Wanting to save it? I thought the same thing.
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (vgwv+)
Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 04:30 PM (RD7QR)
Airplane, yeah -- that'd be a lot of weight crashing down on the building from a much higher altitude at much faster forward speeds.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:30 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (GBteo)
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I repair fire damaged properties for a living.
That ... and .... I stay at HolidayInn Express whenever possible.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:30 PM (8XRCm)
I'm also growing bored with the virtue signalers explaining how they "are in NO WAY "religious"" but they still thought the old building was sorta cool, because like it's old and shit.
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 04:30 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Decaf at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (PUz4C)
Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (Ibwur)
Maybe, but as someone said on Twitter, Trump isn't the only old person who watches too much cable news and now wonders why the fire response was so slow and insignificant.
*shrugs*
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (I/iGu)
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (vgwv+)
Well, he's basically calling the French firemen out when they're in the middle of trying to fight a fire.
I can see how they'd take that the wrong way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (GBteo)
And my third thoughts were "and guess what other terroristic religionists use the destruction of religious buildings because their religion requires that they stamp out any other religion and it's believers.
Who for hundreds of years has made a point of either destroying or converting churches into mosques.
Yes that's right. Of course we'll never know for sure.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (gxzx7)
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No it isnt.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (8XRCm)
Yeah, I don't know enough about science or fire or rocks to say anything definitive, but I'm pretty sure all stones have a temperature at which they begin to crack / crumble and get fucky.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (GBteo)
Magma is liquid rock
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at April 15, 2019 04:32 PM (bcbK8)
I can see how they'd take that the wrong way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (GBteo)
He suggested that 3 hours ago. From all appearances, they weren't in the middle of fighting shit.
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 04:32 PM (cF8AT)
Yes, your method, let it burn, does that more efficiently.
Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2019 04:32 PM (Ibwur)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 15, 2019 04:33 PM (LWu6U)
I always wanted to see this cathedral, but we were waiting until my husband retires.
There simply are no words.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at April 15, 2019 04:33 PM (uDcBt)
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 15, 2019 04:33 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, no recent arrests at April 15, 2019 04:33 PM (LISuA)
It's not like any French are still practicing Catholics who need a church.
Hey, it was old, unsafe and surplus to requirements.
Posted by: Decaf at April 15, 2019 04:33 PM (PUz4C)
Lutherans? The answer is always Lutherans.
Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2019 04:33 PM (Ibwur)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2019 04:33 PM (bim/x)
Anything from Frankie Hollywood yet?
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 15, 2019 04:33 PM (MIKMs)
Frankie says Relax
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at April 15, 2019 04:34 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Jack at April 15, 2019 04:34 PM (8viCO)
I can see how they'd take that the wrong way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (GBteo)
Well, they can't fight wars without help, maybe they can't fight fires either. Also, they're europeans so...
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 04:34 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: H Badger
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I visited a lot of churches in England a couple of years ago.
They are all empty.
Everyone - EVERYONE! - in England is too cool for church.
Posted by: RKae at April 15, 2019 04:34 PM (vP0jg)
But if it was anything else like terrorism, you can be sure it will never be reported.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (LWu6U)
*crosses #1 off the list.
Ok.... scatter the stones now.
And salt. Achmed, did YOU remember to bring the salt??
Posted by: French Muslim Underclass at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (8XRCm)
Yeah it was a good 90 minutes until water was flowing on the fire..... next to a river.... no river fighting craft I guess....
but most of the Dem prez nominees say America is not great.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (r+sAi)
That ... and .... I stay at HolidayInn Express whenever possible.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:30 PM (8XRCm)
But we can all agree that fire can't melt steel, right?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: H Badger at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (n/0Nw)
I agree. And I hate to say it, but the Cathedral as it was will not be rebuilt - the damage is too massive. The limestone will be breaking down now. Like the World Trade Center, something new can be built on the site - but what was there is gone forever.
And so if France.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (Kpl3J)
Yes that's right. Of course we'll never know for sure.
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Some things will forever remain a mystery. Buddhist statues? Never heard of them.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (xptlg)
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (sX1BW)
Tijuana called. They want their jackass back.
Posted by: Art Vandelay at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (yACxx)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, no recent arrests at April 15, 2019 04:36 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: vrf at April 15, 2019 04:36 PM (MwaUC)
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 04:34 PM (nRWPy)
That is a good point.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:36 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: ace at April 15, 2019 04:36 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Jack at April 15, 2019 04:34 PM (8viCO)
Good thing since otherwise the Turks would have destroyed it eventually.
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 04:36 PM (nRWPy)
Bad news: we still need our parishioners to tithe / donate to help feed the poor.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 04:36 PM (rxtQa)
I believe churches have been vandalized and burnt in Germany as well.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2019 04:36 PM (FSPNP)
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 04:32 PM (cF8AT)
The President probably surmised that Macron was just going to let it burn to the ground. Now the French elites have only a burned out hulk and snark to offer in return.
Honestly, if "professionals" aren't going to risk their lives to save one of France's greatest treasures, what the fuck good are they? It would almost, but not quite, be better if Macron blamed the terorrists. The notion that French authorities would let the "accidental" fire consume France's national pride should be cause to bring back guillotines.
Posted by: trev006 at April 15, 2019 04:37 PM (6n54H)
That ... and .... I stay at HolidayInn Express whenever possible.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:30 PM (8XRCm)
But we can all agree that fire can't melt steel, right?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (GBteo)
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*rolleyes*
Ive a seen a couch fire in a basement get hot enough to twist a steel beam right out of its foundation pocket.
Posted by: French Muslim Underclass at April 15, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)
They should strive to build as true to the original as they can... but with better fireproofing.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at April 15, 2019 04:37 PM (J+mig)
ugg sox.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)
It means we're that much closer to having as much beauty as the West!
Posted by: Palestine at April 15, 2019 04:37 PM (8ruUE)
Ive a seen a couch fire in a basement get hot enough to twist a steel beam right out of its foundation pocket.
Posted by: French Muslim Underclass at April 15, 2019 04:37 PM (8XRCm)
...if it wasn't obvious, I was being facetious.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:38 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 15, 2019 04:38 PM (Xqo6t)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:38 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at April 15, 2019 04:37 PM (J+mig)
asbestos for the win.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:38 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:38 PM (GBteo)
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I know.
rolleyes was for the fat lesbian.... not you...
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:38 PM (8XRCm)
Like maybe they needed a big event to blame on the yellow vests
Or the building was so structurally unsound it couldn't be renovated so....accidental fire?
Really. What caught on fire that generated enough heat to ignite the massive wooden beams of the inside was cleared out?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 15, 2019 04:38 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: ace at April 15, 2019 04:39 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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From Gatestone:
European Churches torched and defecated on every day.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/14044/europe-churches-vandalized
Posted by: RKae at April 15, 2019 04:39 PM (vP0jg)
It was dinnertime!
Posted by: Les Bombardiers at April 15, 2019 04:39 PM (8ruUE)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:39 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Yuuuuup! at April 15, 2019 04:39 PM (MAstk)
Posted by: IN PEACH DONALD BLUMPF at April 15, 2019 04:39 PM (XHWUx)
"Notre Dame in flames. The
whole nation in shock. Thoughts for all Catholics and all Frenchmen.
Like all our fellow countrymen, I am sad tonight to see this part of us
burn."
And that's about the best he could do.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at April 15, 2019 04:39 PM (DwzBO)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (NFEMn)
.................
That can't be.. I bought the real one for $100 bucks at the shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe.. A priest in a cassock sold it to me, so it's got to be legit..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Hikaru at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (UnA8+)
These cathedrals are not wall and roofs, but they are big trusses with forces balanced out. If some elements are removed the rest can shift or fall.
And heat is very bad if it gets hot enough. the only thing worse than heat is to rapidly cool with water, so fire can do a lot of damage.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (0Ntuf)
Posted by: Ilhan Omar at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (8ruUE)
Really. What caught on fire that generated enough heat to ignite the massive wooden beams of the inside was cleared out?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 15, 2019 04:38 PM (dNzKv)
I dont know, man...
wood that old? You could probably hold a lit cigarette to it and it would light on fire.
We get a lot of barn fires in new england where barns from the 1700s burn down super quickly from what would be a small, easily extinguished fire in a building with new lumber.
Dried out old lumber goes up pretty quickly.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (GBteo)
Read an article from a firefighter on why it's impossible to contain this blaze--12x12 800-year-old wooden beams can burn like hell. The huge open space of Notre Dame means no lack of oxygen to feed the fire. The immense size and height of the building, and that it seems to have started at the roof, means it's very difficult to get the water from hoses to soak the roof. Still fighting off tears.
Posted by: Lily at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (7w41C)
burn."
And that's about the best he could do.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at April 15, 2019 04:39 PM (DwzBO)
Late for an orgy.
Posted by: Caliban at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (qEujL)
Mika Laakkonen, a university professor opposite Notre Dame, has followed
the fire of the historic cathedral from the headquarters. Laakkonen
from Oulu says she was on the couch when there were two bangs. I got up and went to see. The big tower in the middle of Notre Dame came on fire, he says.
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (Z3zSO)
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Stood (still standing) for over 700 years. That's pretty good.
Modern fireproofing and firestopping does impede overall structure, design, and beauty. For the better? Maybe, maybe not.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (sX1BW)
Notre Dame should be rebuilt with their bones.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (r+sAi)
I believe churches have been vandalized and burnt in Germany as well.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
The last time we were in Germany, there was pro-Nazi graffiti spray painted on churches.
Last time we were in Italy, Pisa, to be exact, there was Arab graffiti spray painted on several churches.
Europe is lost.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Jack at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (8viCO)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, no recent arrests at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: tubal at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (rxtQa)
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I'm guessing they were removed because of the renovations
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (dm05u)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (GBteo)
And the mortar used begins to change under that much heat....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (wYseH)
I am surprised that a fire can even take hold in a building like that - but that just shows how little I understand about how it was built. Figured it's 90% stone, so puzzled that a major fire can grow and sustain itself.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (QDnY+)
Would someone please get rid of this asshole?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (x3tTl)
Posted by: Ancient Hunchback Theorists at April 15, 2019 04:42 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:39 PM (VpIIl)
They really do think of it as revenge for Christchurch, don't they? The war is internationalized.
Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 04:42 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:42 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (QDnY+)
The walls are stone. The ceiling/ roof are wood.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2019 04:42 PM (x3tTl)
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (0Ntuf)
That's correct, and I understand they're calling it "ghoulosh."
Posted by: Jim Acosta at April 15, 2019 04:42 PM (qEujL)
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 15, 2019 04:42 PM (xPl2J)
"Notre Dame in flames. The
whole nation in shock. Thoughts for all Catholics and all Frenchmen.
Like all our fellow countrymen, I am sad tonight to see this part of us
burn."
And that's about the best he could do.
Posted by: Anonymous 7
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I hate the word "thoughts" instead of "prayers."
And I hate it made equal: "thoughts and prayers."
I had thoughts for some girls in high school. It did nothing.
(What I wanted, I couldn't pray for.)
Posted by: RKae at April 15, 2019 04:42 PM (vP0jg)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
It wasn't in the slightest.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 15, 2019 04:42 PM (uAgHA)
Obviously, they didn't have sprinkler system when it was built, but surely they put in something lately as part of a retrofit or upgrade?
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (xptlg)
NONE of the great old European buildings have done that. It costs a lot of money, and nobody wants to pay for it. Also, having toured some grand old buildings - the usual manner of construction is that there's a sub ceiling, what those in side the building see, then a large chamber, then the roof (and maybe a couple more layers than that)
When a devastating fire gets going, it's usually inside this enclosed space, much like an attic in a house. This allows it to spread through the length and breadth of the building before breaking out - and you can't put water on it from above, and you can't put water on it from below, without knocking out big chunks of the building.
On a large building like this, the Inconvenient Truth is that without a fire suppression and abatement system pre-installed before a major fire starts. the Building will be lost no matter how good or fast the fire fighting effort is. The fire fighters are simply unable to access the core of the fire, until it is far too late.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (Kpl3J)
not just Donald Trump.
Including French authorities. I heard a report that they considered it but decided not to go that route.
Not sure it much matters any more.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: AndrewR at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (Cn4r1)
Would someone please get rid of this asshole?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (x3tTl)
It's BSG. At this point his trolling is just a manifestation of mental illness.
Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM
*****
I know that guy!
Got a great deal on a Frolex watch!
Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (vgwv+)
Well, he's basically calling the French firemen out when they're in the middle of trying to fight a fire.
I can see how they'd take that the wrong way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (GBteo)
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Being critical of French battle plans is like being critical of thunderstorms causing rain.
So in that we agree, Trump should waste his energy no more on such people. They will have new masters soon enough.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Anonymous 7
I have a feeling Macron is not a religious person.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (FSPNP)
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (dm05u)
Or employees yanked them out when they first noticed a fire in the building.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (GBteo)
Correct. St. Marks in Venice has a number of precious Orthodox icons and relics as well.
Posted by: Nunya bizness at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (gwiGN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (ptqGC)
People are eating each other inside the cathedral!!
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (0Ntuf)
Well done.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (t6MX/)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (gC2IV)
As long as they saved the Holy Bong of Antioch, am i right?
Posted by: garrett at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (dIb4M)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (Z3zSO)
Don't think state arson is a conspiracy worth following.
Islamic arson is, though.
Posted by: Sal, not a one-syllable troll at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (wR64M)
SOME recall that there have been several very recent instances of vandalism, small fires, etc.,. in French Catholic churches, including a fire at St Suplice of Paris. The organ at St Sulpice is a world treasure; played by Widor and Dupre and lots of other prominent organists.
Some people did something, eh?
Posted by: dad29 at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (7Kti7)
Posted by: NAB at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (oeNAW)
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (0Ntuf)
>Well done.
Seared into my memory, your pith is.
Posted by: garrett at April 15, 2019 04:45 PM (dIb4M)
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM (0Ntuf)
Well done.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (t6MX/)
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Dammit.
*throws mouse across the office
I mad that joke LAST thread. Did any of you morons even notice???
No.
*pouts.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:45 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 15, 2019 04:45 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (wYseH)
Which, of course, is how you make mortar in the first place: dehydrate the constituents at high heat.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2019 04:45 PM (x3tTl)
Posted by: Grimaldi at April 15, 2019 04:45 PM (+rqF4)
Posted by: Quasimodo at April 15, 2019 04:45 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (Z3zSO)
#metoo
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 04:45 PM (dm05u)
...except for water-bombing aircrafts which, if used, could lead to the collapse of the entire structure of the cathedral.
Guess what, French Assholes.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 04:45 PM (Po8Ix)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
The last time we were in Germany, there was pro-Nazi graffiti spray painted on churches.
Last time we were in Italy, Pisa, to be exact, there was Arab graffiti spray painted on several churches.
Europe is lost.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:41 PM (ptqGC)
And we are not far behind.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (Z3zSO)
You call THAT a small fire??
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (x3tTl)
Posted by: tubal at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: gp at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (mk9aG)
This isn't going to be one of those fires where the investigators can point to the hot spot and say "oh, here's where it was set".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2019 04:42 PM (x3tTl)
Very ancient, very dry wood at that.
I think this is going to turn out to be very similar to the burning of Parliament and old Westminster Hall in 1830. Similar type of fire, similar results. Of course that one ended being the cause of the construction of the current Parliament building, with Big Ben.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: ace at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Sponge at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: 9/11 deniers at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (z97e7)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:47 PM (VpIIl)
Very nice. First I get punished for your sins and now you pile on.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2019 04:47 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Total Control Racist at April 15, 2019 04:47 PM (O5f1Y)
... except for water-bombing aircrafts which, if used, could lead to the collapse of the entire structure of the cathedral.
What a stupid fucking thing to say WHILE most of the Cathedral is engulfed in a massive inferno.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 04:47 PM (Po8Ix)
I've never seen a church bell hung from a rope. Ropes used to ring them, but typically there is a very heavy (wooden) frame that they are supported on.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 15, 2019 04:47 PM (kUmUV)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (fuK7c)
I think every weather satellite in orbit is going to be able to point to the "hot spot".
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 04:47 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Shep Smith
LOL
Posted by: ace at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (PbpT7)
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sighs
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:47 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (oVJmc)
It's the mandatory union breaks.
Posted by: Ha at April 15, 2019 04:47 PM (MAstk)
Even if this was an accident, anyone claiming credit for it is telling you they were willing if unable. That might be a reason to go to war on it's own, even if they're found to be lying.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (ptqGC)
Local radio already had a a clip of Shep Smith lecturing some Frenchman in France who talked about vandalization of church with Shep talking about "we're not going to go there-not on my watch"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (FSPNP)
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welll, when I looked at the original fire hours ago, all I could really see was smoke, and no flame. It seem containable in relation to the actual size of the building.
so yes, small, very early on.
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (Z3zSO)
.................
That can't be.. I bought the real one for $100 bucks at the shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe.. A priest in a cassock sold it to me, so it's got to be legit..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 15, 2019 04:40 PM
********************************
Edmund Blackadder had a similar conundrum when appointed Archbishop of Canterbury.
https://youtu.be/PyF7YmHYhYc
Posted by: Rudi Von Starnberg at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (OFzX4)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (fuK7c)
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Yeah.... no discernable V pattern burns here....
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: jon at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (VTpXr)
Welcome, jon!
Posted by: m at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (C7rlo)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (x3tTl)
The ignition fire is what I believe she is referring.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (rxtQa)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (t6MX/)
--Hezekiah 13:9
Posted by: Caliban at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (qEujL)
I'm a Catholic. I went to Catholic school, and I busted me ass to put my boys through as well. I go to Mass. I tithe. I pray. I am proud of my Catholic heritage.
And I am being attacked.
Personally. I am now paranoid during Mass. I watch the doors. I am suspicious of persons I do not recognize in the pews around me. I am thinking about asking my pastor about how he would defend us if we were attacked, or, if not him, who would protect us.
I feel like I am being targeted. For my Faith.
And now I'm getting pissed.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (Po8Ix)
Too soon for a lame joke?
Posted by: gp Put Down Roots In A Sh!thole at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (mk9aG)
Screw you, media fucktards. You should be IN that fire reporting on it.
Posted by: Sponge at April 15, 2019 04:49 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: Shep Smith
And they're looting the Food King!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 15, 2019 04:49 PM (x3tTl)
Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 04:49 PM (OxYQ1)
Posted by: Jack at April 15, 2019 04:49 PM (8viCO)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (fuK7c)
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Even in modern buildings the arson investigators are pretty terrible at figuring it out. They make it sound all "science-y" but a lot of it is guesswork. Usually errors arise when an investigator is too eager to attribute it to arson - in this case I would guess the opposite would be the problem.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 04:49 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 15, 2019 04:49 PM (pPNCa)
86 That can't be.. I bought the real one for $100 bucks at the shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe.. A priest in a cassock sold it to me, so it's got to be legit..
did he also expect you to find the pope in a pizza?
Posted by: Anachronda at April 15, 2019 04:49 PM (sGtp+)
So that future generations of civilized humans might have a chance to enjoy them.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 15, 2019 04:50 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:50 PM (VpIIl)
Local radio already had a a clip of Shep Smith lecturing some
Frenchman in France who talked about vandalization of church with Shep
talking about "we're not going to go there-not on my watch"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (FSPNP)
It was a French official. I heard him live, and I had to go outside and plant some flowers to calm down. Makes me wonder what value, at all, Fox thinks Shep adds to their bottom line?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:50 PM (ptqGC)
speaking of which, i once saw Rap Ennui open for Big Rock Men. quite a show.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 15, 2019 04:50 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 15, 2019 04:50 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 15, 2019 04:47 PM (kUmUV)
they are worried that copper bells will melt from the heat thus weakening the wooden frames that hold them and BOOM
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (rxtQa)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 04:44 PM (Z3zSO)
It happens when people get sloppy.
Original St Paul's Cathedral, 1666
Original Parliament Building , 1830
and a host of other, maybe not quite so magnificent stuff along the way. With modern buildings we've forgotten how vulnerable they are to fire. And this was not a modern building.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (Kpl3J)
My guess is some lazy idiot laborer or iron worker was doing "Hot Work" inside the building lost control of his flames/sparks.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (Po8Ix)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (LWu6U)
speaking of which, i once saw Rap Ennui open for Big Rock Men. quite a show.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 15, 2019 04:50 PM (sGtp+)
I was Meh on Rap Ennui
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Angry, Radical, Anti-Liberal, and Dangerous: buy ammo at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Shep Smith
At least they're cooked......
Posted by: Sponge at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (Z3zSO)
I'm a Catholic. I went to Catholic school, and I busted me ass to put my boys through as well. I go to Mass. I tithe. I pray. I am proud of my Catholic heritage.
And I am being attacked.
Personally. I am now paranoid during Mass. I watch the doors. I am suspicious of persons I do not recognize in the pews around me. I am thinking about asking my pastor about how he would defend us if we were attacked, or, if not him, who would protect us.
I feel like I am being targeted. For my Faith.
And now I'm getting pissed.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (d7Ww2)
You mean Judeo-Catholic or are you anti-Semitic?
Posted by: Ben Shapiro at April 15, 2019 04:52 PM (YmfOS)
The yellow vest protests could very well be kicked up a notch, or several notches.
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 04:52 PM (xjiRE)
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at April 15, 2019 04:52 PM (DwzBO)
not the same, but I got to wind the clock in an old steeple in Milwaukee by my sister's house. On the way up we stepped into the new roof, which was some of the first steel work up there, I was told. New roof right over the old roof, to preserve the interior look I think. (because fire can't melt steel ... heh. at least it doesn't burn)
Posted by: illiniwek at April 15, 2019 04:52 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 04:52 PM (OxYQ1)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:52 PM (VpIIl)
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Ive seen them reconstruct and entire room down to the position of the extension cords that got pinched under the couch before. All reassembled from the debris the fire fighters threw out the window.
Im usually pretty impressed.
Most fires are not arson.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:52 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 04:51 PM (Z3zSO)
Depends on the POV.
Posted by: Ben Shapiro at April 15, 2019 04:52 PM (YmfOS)
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Every cable news channel needs a big time gay anchor. Anderson Cooper, Chuck Todd....
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (SkuXa)
And so if France.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 04:35 PM (Kpl3J)"
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France and Europe went first, we are now watching the disappearance of their traces.
Posted by: Decaf at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (PUz4C)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage!
This does strike me as a particularly evil omen.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (AM1GF)
And people want to know why I concealed carry at church nowadays...
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:50 PM (VpIIl)
Our gun-hating pastor attended a class for local clergy on active shooter scenarios in churches. He has since asked our son (who always carries) to sit near one of the entrances on Sunday mornings. But our son isn't the only one who carries. Our pastor would be shocked by some of the "harmless looking" women who carry in their purses.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (ptqGC)
7+ years of lurking and this event is what causes my first comment.
Posted by: jon at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (VTpXr)
jon, please don't wait that long for your next comment.
step up to the keyboard!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (sy5kK)
174 90 People are eating each other inside the cathedral!!
Posted by: Shep Smith
And they're looting the Food
fixt, because french
Posted by: Anachronda at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (sGnvY)
You know I am right
Posted by: The FAB at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: tubal at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (d7Ww2)
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Same history. Same feeling. And during Mass if one of the doors opens you can bet I'm checking it out.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (jUVms)
I feel like I have been personally assaulted.
I'm a Catholic. I went to Catholic school, and I busted me ass to
put my boys through as well. I go to Mass. I tithe. I pray. I am
proud of my Catholic heritage.
And I am being attacked.
Personally. I am now paranoid during Mass. I watch the doors. I
am suspicious of persons I do not recognize in the pews around me. I am
thinking about asking my pastor about how he would defend us if we were
attacked, or, if not him, who would protect us.
I feel like I am being targeted. For my Faith.
And now I'm getting pissed.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (d7Ww2)
Nurse Ratched -- I do the same thing. I was lectoring this past weekend and I always check the doors when I hear them open. I'm trying to get our pastor and others to start thinking about security but all I get is blank stares and even some condescension because that isn't welcoming.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 15, 2019 04:54 PM (jxbfJ)
I feel like I am being targeted. For my Faith.
And now I'm getting pissed.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (d7Ww2)
++++++++++++
Sanctuaries are a really hard problem, security-wise. There is little you can do from inside since it is basically always a surprise attack. Almost everyone sits with their back to the door. It is unfortunate that we're approaching the point of "post an armed guard outside the sanctuary doors while everyone is distracted facing the altar to look for suspicious behavior," but we may be there. Some areas are there.
My synagogue does this on the High Holy Days, and has for years - and we're in a very calm, very normal, not at all anti-semitic part of the country.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 04:54 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: jon at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (VTpXr)
jon, please don't wait that long for your next comment.
step up to the keyboard!
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Snark ain't going to write itself.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 04:54 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2019 04:54 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 04:54 PM (BbGew)
Original Parliament Building , 1830
Original White House, 1814 (although you could say that some boys in red under the leadership of MG Robert Ross did something)
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 15, 2019 04:54 PM (pPNCa)
Someone must have climbed into the roof and saw where it started when it was tiny.
If it was a worker, others will know who was doing what and where. The investigation at this point will be interviews.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 15, 2019 04:54 PM (LWu6U)
7+ years of lurking and this event is what causes my first comment.
Posted by: jon at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (VTpXr)
You don't happen to be a French fireman, do you?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (t6MX/)
Posted by: rickl at April 15, 2019 04:52 PM (xjiRE)
Uhhh... my spider sense is that a "Yellow Vester" set the blaze. (I'm never right about these things, though).
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (Xqo6t)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Ancient Hunchback Theorists at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (v0R5T)
That's the best I can do for...
"Made it, Ma! Top o' the world!"
Posted by: RKae at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (vP0jg)
Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 04:30 PM (RD7QR)
It really is.
Posted by: m at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (C7rlo)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Ancient Hunchback Theorists at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (v0R5T)
Abby something......
Posted by: Sponge at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (IXZGh)
Just a theory.
Posted by: WisRich at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: NAB at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (oeNAW)
Posted by: CN at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (OxYQ1)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (Po8Ix)
Well, Sooth, I mean, it could have been a genuine accident. There could be someone who feels absolutely horrible right now.
Or it could have been an accident with no one personally responsible -- like an electrical fire, which was possibly caused by old-ass wiring becoming frayed due to the work on the building somehow or something like that.
Who knows?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (+y/Ru)
A silver lining.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (t6MX/)
We have multiple exits in the church that were wide open on Palm Sunday. Our pastor is very anti gun, but looks the other way as he really can't ask who is carrying. When confronted he says "this is a house of God". I'm glad he still had faith in man, and I told him so. I also told him I don't which is why I am here, armed.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (VpIIl)
Hollywood Box Office Suffering Worst Slump in Years...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (+y/Ru)
Produce shit, receive shit in return, episode #345,364,408
Posted by: Sponge at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (IXZGh)
Hard to say, but Poland and some of the old Eastern Bloc seem to understand the threat much more clearly.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (BbGew)
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As if it matters. John Roberts will make a rule that RBG can review cases via seance.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick Up a Copy of The Daily Panic at The Outrage Outlet! at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (MIvvh)
Just a theory.
Posted by: WisRich at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (G0vdT)
That makes sense and would explain why they didn't immediately put water on it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage!
This does strike me as a particularly evil omen.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (AM1GF)
Or, Judgment. The Great Temple of Solomon was destroyed when the People became unfaithful, that's what the Prophets wrote.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (Kpl3J)
I can see how they'd take that the wrong way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:31 PM (GBteo)
If that is what the French fire fighters call "fighting a fire", I understand all the jokes of French soldiers and their nearly new, unfired, dropped once gun sales.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (sy5kK)
He's the bad guy, while their workers and first responders were like "meh?" Seriously people.
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (nRWPy)
am suspicious of persons I do not recognize in the pews around me. I am
thinking about asking my pastor about how he would defend us if we were
attacked, or, if not him, who would protect us.
I feel like I am being targeted. For my Faith.
And now I'm getting pissed.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 15, 2019 04:48 PM (d7Ww2)
Join the club. Remember the little Baptist church in TN (I believe) where people were mowed down inside?
Lots of people conceal carry now. Some pastors may not like the idea, but what they don't know....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (GBteo)
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Well don't put the FBI on it, if you really want to know.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (sX1BW)
63% Christian
23% nothing
7.5% Muslim
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (Z3zSO)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick Up a Copy of The Daily Panic at The Outrage Outlet! at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (MIvvh)
Right. Could have been a spark from a miter saw cutting a piece of metal or something that was smoldering on some old lumber for a few hours before it really took off as a legit fire. Who knows?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: SH
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Actually, I WOULD like to put the FBI on a fire.
Posted by: RKae at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (vP0jg)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (Po8Ix)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (VpIIl)
Just a theory.
Posted by: WisRich at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (G0vdT)
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Not a bad theory.
Im wondering. Who carries the insurance on something like the Notre Dame Cathedral???
Lloyds??
Or did the French "self insure".
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: jon at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (VTpXr)
........
and you went and misspelled your name.
Posted by: wth at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (v0R5T)
Please -take the time to learn where all the exits are. Look where the fire extinguishers are (they make fantastic "bell" ringers). Lobby to get more of them installed around the facility.If you can, carry. Personally, I have avoided carrying when I go to Mass, but am seriously reconsidering my position on that.Reach out to your local LEO (even if you are skeptical of their actions) and have them come to your facility. Let them tour it. This gives them an inside edge should something go sideways. Host a C.R.A.S.E. course or something similar.Bad things are coming. It is in Europe now. It'll be here soon enough.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 15, 2019 04:29 PM (xptlg)
NONE of the great old European buildings have done that. It costs a lot of money, and nobody wants to pay for it."
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After paying billions to feed, House and build mosques for the Muslim overlords there is no money to safeguard their antiquities.
Posted by: Decaf at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (PUz4C)
Posted by: Timon at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (dKm4U)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 15, 2019 04:50 PM (oVJmc)
Limp-wristed, ineffectual socialism? Yeah, that pretty much covers it.
Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (rxtQa)
If it were the Religion of Peace(s), they'd already have a press release out bragging about it.
I'm sticking with my original hunch of "Typical Gallic Work Ethic" being to blame here, based on no other evidence than what i've just cited.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (Ct55T)
The Next George Bush...
Can Ultimate Insider Resurrect Family Brand?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (Xqo6t)
Why would a Pro French protestor destroy an Ancient Symbol of France?
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (NgKpN)
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There were likely procedures already in place.
"There's a fire. It's big enough that the fire department will be called. Either part of the building will burn down, or there will be lots of water damage. Or both. Because of this, evacuate everything of value that can be moved."
Posted by: junior at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (Fp6vo)
Joe Concha is one of the good guys, American, Rule of Law, honest.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Emmie at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (4HMW8)
Lots of people conceal carry now. Some pastors may not like the idea, but what they don't know....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 04:57 PM (praY)
...may save their lives
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (dm05u)
63% Christian
23% nothing
7.5% Muslim
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage!
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You can put that 63% in with the "nothing" category.
Posted by: RKae at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (vP0jg)
Lloyds??
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Ha. They insure everything. What a business.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (sX1BW)
Or did the French "self insure".
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (8XRCm)
Whatever lawyers wrote up that insurance policy are either in hiding right now, or furiously pouring over the policy looking for any out.
Because I got to imagine that that building was worth a fuckton of money.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: jon at April 15, 2019 04:25 PM (VTpXr)
........
and you went and misspelled your name.
Posted by: wth at April 15, 2019 04:58 PM (v0R5T)
[Scowls] Watch that crap.
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (cF8AT)
It's only been recently since I've been contemplating the phrase "Nothing Lasts Forever." It really is true. None of this will last forever. None of it.
Except bugs; they'll be around forever.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (Po8Ix)
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I like to tell people that we invited the British Army in for bonfires and smores, but the British got a bit unruly.
(and yes, I have actually said this on a website full of Brits
)
Posted by: junior at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (Fp6vo)
Posted by: Ancient Hunchback Theorists at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM.
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Damn your eyes!
Posted by: Dr Viktor Frankenstein....that's Fronk-en -steen at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (OFzX4)
Red alert! Red alert! Red alert!
The Next George Bush...
Can Ultimate Insider Resurrect Family Brand?
We are working on it.
Posted by: Billie and the Cucks at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (Po8Ix)
https://mobile.twitter.com/benshapiro/status/ 1117879123815190529
The masks are hitting the floor on Twitter and social media over this.
Posted by: Ben Shapiro at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (YmfOS)
Posted by: garrett at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (dIb4M)
Posted by: tubal at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (90T4r)
Oh Goody, Nitwit Perino.
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (nRWPy)
170. I'm sure any number of guys at my church are packing. K of C types, and also LE, active and retired.
Posted by: kallisto
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We are - but in the absence of a coordinated, trained response team, fully supported by the parish priest and diocese, our efforts are substandard.
I'm working with my priest to form a team with that support, but he's a bit slow.
Perhaps this will be his push to move faster.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (Y4EXg)
open on Palm Sunday. Our pastor is very anti gun, but looks the other
way as he really can't ask who is carrying. When confronted he says
"this is a house of God". I'm glad he still had faith in man, and I told
him so. I also told him I don't which is why I am here, armed.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (VpIIl)
Yeah, we have two entrances to our church. Both would provide a shooter with perfect lines of fire to wipe out half the congregants.
Thus our son and others sitting in strategic spots on Sunday mornings.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 05:01 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (sX1BW)
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Ive work several fires where Lloyds was the carrier.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:01 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 05:01 PM (OxYQ1)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 05:01 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (Kpl3J)
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Thank you, Tom Servo. That's really something.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 15, 2019 05:01 PM (xptlg)
'Overreacting ' be THE sin above all sins in the Kristol Klass
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at April 15, 2019 05:01 PM (2DkvM)
Except bugs; they'll be around forever.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (Po8Ix)
and herpes
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 05:01 PM (GBteo)
I had Aquaman on as background noise the other day. I almost turned it off because it failed to be entertaining enough for that task.
I'm glad I didn't pay to see that dreck.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (9t0Zz)
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That is terrible.
If you are going to snark, make it good snark.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: tubal
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Less than 2
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (YslsA)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (Po8Ix)
https://tinyurl.com/y326nkut
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 05:00 PM (cF8AT)
Too much anal to contemplate
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (+dsLj)
who is the insurer that insures all other insurers?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (wGbBR)
Thus fire boats. Could easily cover most of the west side...
Sad
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (6qErC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (QDnY+)
am suspicious of persons I do not recognize in the pews around me. I am
thinking about asking my pastor about how he would defend us if we were
attacked, or, if not him, who would protect us.
I feel like I am being targeted. For my Faith.
And now I'm getting pissed.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Most Catholic Churches have ushers for Sunday Mass.. ask one of them.. maybe they're packing.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: RBG at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (MAstk)
If you are going to snark, make it good snark.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (sX1BW)
Honorary threadwinner, per the rules of the thread.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (t6MX/)
http://tinyurl.com/y6pad56g
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Red headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (5Q+j+)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (0O7c5)
The taxpayers.
Duh.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (0O7c5)
That's called reinsurance and there are a number of big reinsurance companies. Lloyd's being one of them.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (rxtQa)
who is the insurer that insures all other insurers?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (0O7c5)
Government.
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (RD7QR)
If it were the Religion of Peace(s), they'd already have a press release out bragging about it.
I'm sticking with my original hunch of "Typical Gallic Work Ethic" being to blame here, based on no other evidence than what i've just cited.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (Ct55T)
Except the WaPo and Newsweek have reported within the last 2 weeks on the string on attacks and vandalism and desecration on Catholic Churches in France over the last few weeks.
Posted by: Ben Shapiro at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (YmfOS)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (Po8Ix)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (JUOKG)
And the rule is that any comments in the first 48 hours are all raw emotion.
We've been ragging on the fire response all day.
Might I suggest y'all run over to Insty's and read the thread written by a fire fighter who seems to have a different perspective than most of what we've been reading today.
It's a fairly recent post...
Posted by: WhoCares at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (bGMOs)
Also F Shep
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (BbGew)
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Ben Shapiro tweeted out "why doesn't the football team put it out?" He
deleted the tweet. But do a google search with this link and you can see
it.
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I don't get it. Should I be able to get it?
Posted by: irright at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (pMGkg)
who is the insurer that insures all other insurers?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (0O7c5)
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reinsurance
Lloyds does a lot of that.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (+4/lE)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (SkuXa)
open on Palm Sunday. Our pastor is very anti gun, but looks the other
way as he really can't ask who is carrying. When confronted he says
"this is a house of God". I'm glad he still had faith in man, and I told
him so. I also told him I don't which is why I am here, armed.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:56 PM (VpIIl)
Ask him what was the LAST thing Jesus told his Disciples?
Sell your cloak, buy a sword?
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: CN at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (OxYQ1)
Here's the Big Question: What exactly did the French firefighters save?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (Po8Ix)
Time for a bagette and a carafe of vino.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (dKiJG)
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Not even with your dick, Patrick my lad.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (Dh1wo)
It's just a catastrophic and devastating event, so naturally we think...
Posted by: pj at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (qlTN9)
Posted by: Jake Tapper at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: Red headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (5Q+j+)
_________________
The French have already arrested and imprisoned a muzzie woman who was part of a group that was planning to try and blow up Notre Dame with gas canisters. It's not as if the French don't know, and haven't known for a while now, that the church is a target of the jihadis.
In fact, all the French churches are targets, and they are currently averaging 2 church desecrations (vandalism, torching, smearing with feces, etc.) by muslims in France every day. The French media won't report most of it, but the people know this kind of shit is going on.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (fqUgw)
Ben Shapiro tweeted out "why doesn't the football team put it out?" He
deleted the tweet. But do a google search with this link and you can see
it.
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He was thinking of Knute Rockne.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (aKsyK)
A lot of hospitals, nursing homes, and outpatient clinics are inviting LEOs into their facilities to help them plan a course of action in case an active shooter(s) gets inside and goes postal. Many older hospitals were built in stages over the years and have unbelievably complicated floor plans (as do some cathedrals), so you really do need to know the location of exits and fire extinguishers (or other items that could be used to deter or disable an attacker).
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (pPNCa)
Sell your cloak, buy a sword?
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (NgKpN)
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Pre or post resurrection??
I will be with you always.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (+4/lE)
Great news, if true
Posted by: CN at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: tubal at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (90T4r)
I forget. You're a catastrophic adjuster ?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:06 PM (rxtQa)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 15, 2019 05:06 PM (dNzKv)
http://tinyurl.com/y3mfjuea
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at April 15, 2019 05:06 PM (9Ni3Z)
Don't let this building be replaced with some sort of Joel Ostend style mega church, or a catamite brothel for Pope Francis' degenerate clergy.
Amen
Posted by: Downcast at April 15, 2019 05:06 PM (2p/I6)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 05:07 PM (Po8Ix)
I forget. You're a catastrophic adjuster ?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:06 PM (rxtQa)
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Catastrophic fixerupper.
General Contractor specializing in disaster restoration
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:07 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 04:43 PM (Kpl3J)
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Perhaps they knew this and the fire plan was "Save the art work at all cost!"
Posted by: WisRich at April 15, 2019 05:07 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: CN at April 15, 2019 05:07 PM (U7k5w)
Munich Reinsurance Company, Swiss Reinsurance Company Limited, and Hannover Rueckversicherung AG.
And yes, they have insurance on themselves - called - rereinsurance.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 15, 2019 05:07 PM (Y4EXg)
http://tinyurl.com/yx8w7nkn
Posted by: Timon at April 15, 2019 05:07 PM (dKm4U)
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Joel Osteen repurposes basketball arenas.
I'm still amazed that his church is where the Rockets used to play.
What a country.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 05:08 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Red headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 05:08 PM (5Q+j+)
"The Cathedral of Notre Dame is no more."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 05:08 PM (ptqGC)
People are SO STUPID. A priest was beheaded at daily Mass in Normandy. Every RCC should have had enhanced security since then.
Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (OxYQ1)
One was stabbed in an attack in Montreal last month. I've been trying to point these things out to our pastor -- again silence and blank stares.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 15, 2019 05:08 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2019 05:08 PM (Po8Ix)
https://tinyurl.com/y326nkut
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Obongo acknowledges this tragedy by posting a photo of himself. Who'd a thunk it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 05:08 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: CN at April 15, 2019 05:09 PM (U7k5w)
JFC. When Los Angeles gets bombed by a terrorist nuke, Obama will post a picture of himself looking pensively across the LA basin.
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 05:09 PM (I2/tG)
I'm not sure but I think we may have had that as an art thread.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 15, 2019 05:09 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 15, 2019 05:09 PM (Dh1wo)
The police do nothing about them. The tour guides will sometimes try to shoo them away.
Lots of ne'er do wells about, at all times.
I was there 4 years ago.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at April 15, 2019 05:09 PM (w7KSn)
Ask him what was the LAST thing Jesus told his Disciples?
Sell your cloak, buy a sword?
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (NgKpN)
was there a 9mm vs. .45 argument back then?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 05:09 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: H Badger at April 15, 2019 04:27 PM (n/0Nw)
A symbol of Europe dying.
This is awful.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. at April 15, 2019 05:10 PM (d6Ksn)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 15, 2019 05:03 PM (JUOKG)
If placed on the eternal flame you would get the 9oo ft Jesus.
Seen in a movie.
Posted by: Oral Roberts at April 15, 2019 05:10 PM (1g7ch)
General Contractor specializing in disaster restoration
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:07 PM (8XRCm
Got it. Someone here was a storm chaser adjuster. Just can't remember who.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:10 PM (rxtQa)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, no recent arrests at April 15, 2019 05:10 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: Ilhan! at April 15, 2019 05:10 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 15, 2019 05:02 PM (+dsLj)
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It's not the Muslims. They're just tools.
It's the Left.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 15, 2019 05:10 PM (Rxduq)
Posted by: Max Power at April 15, 2019 05:10 PM (q177U)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 05:09 PM (sy5kK)
Gladius vs. Scimitar.
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 05:11 PM (NgKpN)
__________________
He's just following the lead of the euroweenie "reporters" who also won't report what is happening to the churches in Europe, lest it lead to that inevitable backlash against the jihadis that we all keep waiting for.
(I'm personally looking forward to the backlash. It's long overdue, and should be a doozy).
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 15, 2019 05:11 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 15, 2019 04:55 PM (Xqo6t)
Why would a Pro French protestor destroy an Ancient Symbol of France?
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 04:59 PM (NgKpN)
To start a revolution.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 15, 2019 05:11 PM (Xqo6t)
https://tinyurl.com/y326nkut
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Obongo acknowledges this tragedy by posting a photo of himself. Who'd a thunk it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 05:08 PM.
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There's no 'i' in Notre Dame.....but it does end in a 'me'.
Posted by: Dr Viktor Frankenstein....that's Fronk-en -steen at April 15, 2019 05:11 PM (OFzX4)
Then the guy I don't know said oh and no one is indicating terrorism either, so that's good.
How have we ruled out terrorism while Paris is burning?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 15, 2019 05:11 PM (fuK7c)
Seen in a movie.
Posted by: Oral Roberts at April 15, 2019 05:10 PM (1g7ch
I got that reference.
Posted by: Steve Rogers at April 15, 2019 05:11 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Gref at April 15, 2019 05:11 PM (AMIL/)
You're so stupid!
The last thing they needed was more fire!
Posted by: AOC at April 15, 2019 05:11 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 15, 2019 05:12 PM (SkuXa)
3 of the greatest stained glass windows ever made, gone forever.
And the twitter twats are cheering - because evil Catholics and Karma. Sickening.
Posted by: clutch cargo at April 15, 2019 05:12 PM (sLicW)
Sounds like something you catch from a can-can dancer.
Posted by: Downcast at April 15, 2019 05:12 PM (2p/I6)
Posted by: Burger Chef at April 15, 2019 05:12 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Abby at April 15, 2019 05:12 PM (SM/op)
Posted by: IrishEi at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (NtglE)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 15, 2019 05:12 PM (SkuXa)
Short arms?
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: CN at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (U7k5w)
We've all been ragging on the firefighters, but we should remember that when they got there, the fire was taking place 300' over their heads and above a heavy wooden ceiling, in a large space running the length of the building, with NO firebreaks built in, and no access.
Again, you either pre-install fire alarms and fire abatement equipment in a space like this, or you accept that if a fire ever starts, the building is lost. They never bothered to install any safety systems where they should have.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (Kpl3J)
Sell your cloak, buy a sword?
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (NgKpN)
Sell your cloak and messenger bag, because ghey.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (t6MX/)
Posted by: clutch cargo at April 15, 2019 05:12 PM (sLicW)
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This is how they got Trump. This is how they'll get moar Trump on stteroids.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (OxYQ1)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (PC5Ge)
https://tinyurl.com/y326nkut
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Obongo acknowledges this tragedy by posting a photo of himself. Who'd a thunk it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 05:08 PM (+y/Ru)
Did you read his fawning minions' responses?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (ptqGC)
3 of the greatest stained glass windows ever made, gone forever.
And the twitter twats are cheering - because evil Catholics and Karma. Sickening.
Posted by: clutch cargo at April 15, 2019 05:12 PM (sLicW)
There's something about the twats that just exacerbates the darkness lurking in some people.
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (RD7QR)
probably will never have a reason to in a couple of years at this rate
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (dm05u)
Standard police procedure now is to announce after an event like this that there is no evidence of terrorism - before the investigation starts.
After all, there no evidence of anything at this point.
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (BbGew)
Lloyd Smolovitz. The guy on corner. I gave him 25 Bucks, shook his hand, And I am insured
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (bim/x)
1st he threw the Covington kids under the bus and now makes a Joke about the Notre Dame Football team should be putting out the fire.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (dKiJG)
Ask him what was the LAST thing Jesus told his Disciples?
Sell your cloak, buy a sword?
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (NgKpN)
was there a 9mm vs. .45 argument back then?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 05:09 PM (sy5kK)
Long Bow vs. Cross Bow
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Party Like It's 1299 at April 15, 2019 05:15 PM (4Eo4+)
build modern Christian churches much, but a mosque on the remains isn't
out of the question.
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (BbGew)
Western tourists love to gush over the Blue Mosque in Istanbul. Built on the site of a cathedral.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 05:15 PM (ptqGC)
Allah works in mysterious ways!
Posted by: Ilhan!
______________
You jest, but it would be completely in keeping with their M.O. if they demanded a muzzie "cultural" center be built somewhere in the vicinity of ND, much as they tried to put one at Ground Zero in NYC.
It's part of their schtick to erect a mosque on sites they have "conquered" for "allah."
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 15, 2019 05:15 PM (fqUgw)
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Correct, there is a vault and then a roof, water sprayed onto the roof does exactly what rain does. Question is, besides where the steeple fell, is the rest of the vault intact?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 15, 2019 05:15 PM (YslsA)
and what kind of things start to happen, and what they lead to, once that mandate is lost.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 05:15 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Weasel at April 15, 2019 05:15 PM (MVjcR)
Over/under on how many of those are fake?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 15, 2019 05:16 PM (9t0Zz)
Not the fighters, but those who refused to properly equip and train them.
There is equipment that could have provided assistance.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 15, 2019 05:16 PM (6qErC)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (xSo9G)
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore
My wife made a hunch joke and when I didn't laugh she said, "you've never heard of Quasimodo?".
I said, "It rings a bell."
Then I laughed at her joke just to be on the safe side.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (/Fmtj)
Just in - The fire at the 2 towers has been put out right now, at the cathédrale Notre-Dame de #Paris. #NotreDame in #France.
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (Xqo6t)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Publius Redux at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (RfdG+)
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ND Football should work on smothering the Clemson offense first.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (Dh1wo)
There are 7 holy sacraments, one of which is the Eucharist which is the Body of Christ. The wheat wafers are wheat wafers until they are consecrated. It then can be referred to as "the host" and retains only the accidents of unleavened bread. Apparently, as the priest should against any odds, secured the eucharist before exiting.
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (xSo9G)
Trying to figure out how to use it to goad Pence unsuccessfully.
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:18 PM (RD7QR)
https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1117889845920026625
Posted by: IrishEi at April 15, 2019 05:18 PM (NtglE)
Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 05:18 PM (OxYQ1)
Posted by: Party Like It's 1299
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So, pretty much like fire departments everywhere.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 05:18 PM (CDGwz)
Sell your cloak, buy a sword?
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (NgKpN)
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Yes, I have heard the Palm Sunday reading for years, but it never made such an impression on me as it did yesterday.
I was surprised that the rewriters of liturgies had let that line stay in.
Posted by: Boots at April 15, 2019 05:18 PM (e9omi)
So.
Is this covered in any of Nostrdamus Quattrrains??
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (8XRCm)
Any of them or none of them, depending on how you choose to interpret them.
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:18 PM (RD7QR)
One of my daughters was lucky enough to attend a Latin mass at Notre
Dame a few years back, while traveling with a friend and her family.
I've always thought that was sort of the height of our family's
not-so-great cultural reach.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, no recent arrests at April 15, 2019
*
*
. . .
While it was hardly Notre Dame, I attended a Latin mass at a Christmas Eve service a few years back. I'd always wanted to hear the sonorous sound of the old Latin ("In nomine patris, et filii, et spiritu sancti"). It was well attended, and quite impressive . . except for the priests' continually turning their backs on the audience to recite! Why do they do that?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (elsTe)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (4e+hS)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (xSo9G)
Trying to figure out how to use it to goad Pence
What's this thing with Pence anyway? I never heard him say anything about Buttgeig or gays for that matter.
Posted by: It's me donna at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (O2RFr)
Over/under on how many of those are fake?
Posted by: bonhomme
I suspect many of these are caused by someone preventing anti-Semitic or anti-Christian acts before they were completed.
Posted by: Downcast at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (2p/I6)
Been the source of rioting in India - a number of mosques have been built on the sites of historically significant Hindu religious structures.
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (Y75K9)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (elsTe)
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Interceding to God on the attendees behalf.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (8XRCm)
It might take time and it might be expensive, but goddammit, it would have worked!
Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (/Fmtj)
https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1117889845920026625
Posted by: IrishEi at April 15, 2019 05:18 PM (NtglE)
It's a shell. Heartbreaking.
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (RD7QR)
They should strive to build as true to the original as they can... but with better fireproofing.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at April 15, 2019 04:37 PM (J+mig)
asbestos for the win.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 04:38 PM (GBteo)
Oh, yes!
Posted by: class-action asbestos attorneys at April 15, 2019 05:20 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Publius Redux
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It has been a fixture, a constant, in a changing world. I grieve its loss.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 05:20 PM (CDGwz)
I'm am really bummed. I have always wanted to go there.
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at April 15, 2019 05:20 PM (v8Lrm)
Certainly an accident is most likely in most environments, but not in this case ... France ... Easter Week. And the Geller report.
It seems they would have a very good smoke alarm system, if not the sprinkler system. But we have to wait for facts, if they would even be allowed out. Act of terror negates some insurance policies ... if they even had insurance. Or could be they scraped up some electrical lines when moving the gargoyles. ...
Posted by: illiniwek at April 15, 2019 05:20 PM (Cus5s)
These swarthy fellows of indeterminate religion think its a laugh fest
http://tinyurl.com/y6a5v4h8
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 15, 2019 05:20 PM (39g3+)
The person who posted that photo on Twitter is wrong about the war in question and about the specific cathedral. The photo is of Notre Dame in Reims, not Notre Dame in Paris, and the Reims cathedral was shelled by the Germans in WWI. Notre Dame in Paris wasn't bombed by the Germans (or anyone else) during WWII. It did suffer some damage from stray bullets during the liberation of Paris in 1944.
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 15, 2019 05:20 PM (pPNCa)
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I don't get the joke.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 05:20 PM (AzW6q)
deleted the tweet. But do a google search with this link and you can see
it.
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I don't get it. Should I be able to get it?
Posted by: irright at April 15, 2019 05:04 PM (pMGkg)
He's trying to make a crack at the expense of the President. I mean, he's a disgusting little shitbag even by neocon standards, and Exhibit A in the (fake and wrong) theory that Jews must control the media, otherwise how does this lump of fuck find work?
Between him and Cavuto/ Shep, I'm rapidly losing respect for anyone who keeps rewarding Cucks News.
Posted by: trev006 at April 15, 2019 05:20 PM (6n54H)
probably will never have a reason to in a couple of years at this rate
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (dm05u)
I remember when I was on a Pilgrimage to Lourdes with my Dad and our Driver gave us a little tour and drove through a Muslim neighborhood, and he committed on how bad they were nothing but trouble nothing but trouble.
He was such a good guy brought us to some friends restaurant and at the end of the meal she had a whole plate of cheese. I never tasted something soo good in my life and I am not into cheese. I later found out it was not pasteurized cheese.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 15, 2019 05:21 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2019 05:09 PM
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Long Bow vs. Cross Bow
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM
Miriam vs. Tzíntzer
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 15, 2019 05:21 PM (PC5Ge)
Posted by: Tuna at April 15, 2019 05:21 PM (Tc0qu)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:21 PM (rxtQa)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 15, 2019 05:05 PM (Dh1wo)
Does this mean that the first thing they grabbed was the wine? It is France.
Posted by: Downcast at April 15, 2019 05:22 PM (2p/I6)
Posted by: trev006 at April 15, 2019 05:22 PM (6n54H)
Posted by: kallisto at April 15, 2019 05:22 PM (OxYQ1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM (ptqGC)
Almost want to barf. And evil Drumpf's response? They laugh because the authorities said it wouldn't work. Some building expert!
Yeah, one guy halfway across the world wanting to act to do what he can to save it with zero information on how to do it. All he knows is they must act quickly.
The other posts a photo of himself and a eulogy before it's gone, in anticipation of building a bigger, better mosque.
Posted by: clutch cargo at April 15, 2019 05:22 PM (sLicW)
https://twitter.com/GreggFavre/
status/1117847726786371585
(space before status)
Posted by: Max Power at April 15, 2019 05:23 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick Up a Copy of The Daily Panic at The Outrage Outlet! at April 15, 2019 05:23 PM (MIvvh)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at April 15, 2019 05:23 PM (/Fmtj)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 15, 2019 04:50 PM (VpIIl)
What I'd want to know is why you would tell them.
Posted by: Just sayin at April 15, 2019 05:23 PM (z79tQ)
probably will never have a reason to in a couple of years at this rate
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 05:14 PM (dm05u)
If I can't drive somewhere, it's off the list.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 05:23 PM (Urdq9)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (xSo9G)
Trying to figure out how to use it to goad Pence
What's this thing with Pence anyway? I never heard him say anything about Buttgeig or gays for that matter.
Posted by: It's me donna at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (O2RFr)
It's Butgig trying to get some publicity by attacking Pence's religious beliefs about gays. That kind of thing plays well with the left. Pence, to his immense credit, is taking the high road, which just forces Buttgig to double down on the anti-Christian nonsense.
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:24 PM (RD7QR)
Watching something that took centuries to develop, something that can never entirely be recreated, disappear in the comparative blink of an eye -- that, in slow motion, is going to be the dominant feeling of the 21st century. Only instead of buildings: glaciers, forests, species.
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 05:24 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 15, 2019 05:24 PM (dUJdY)
BREAKING: Former Massachusetts Governor William Weld says he will challenge Trump for 2020 Republican nomination - Reuters
Posted by: Ha at April 15, 2019 05:24 PM (MAstk)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (elsTe)
that's the way it is originally - the priest, along with the congregation, face God together
this facing the people thing is a modern invention
Posted by: vmom superior, order of sweet merciless ninjas at April 15, 2019 05:25 PM (dm05u)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:25 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (elsTe)
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That is how the old Mass was said. The priest and congregation together facing the cross. It was about facing Christ not each other.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 15, 2019 05:25 PM (jUVms)
Posted by: Publius Redux at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (RfdG+)
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THIS.
I feel sick.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 15, 2019 05:25 PM (Rxduq)
Posted by: betty at April 15, 2019 05:25 PM (aUHJk)
Posted by: Publius Redux at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (RfdG+)
I do, too.
I'm Lutheran, with no French in the family tree (as far back as I know), so my only connection to the building is rushing for it in most games of Civilization I've played.
And yet I had a few sniffles over it. The event does seem symbolic of something, whatever the cause turns out to be.
Posted by: Methos at April 15, 2019 05:25 PM (kOpft)
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Ben Shapiro, the Vanessa Baxter of the cucks.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (+y/Ru)
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Its good for Trump to get some practice on a lightweight before taking on the Dem lightweight.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Tuna at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (Tc0qu)
Posted by: Tuna at April 15, 2019 05:21 PM (Tc0qu)
West, North and South reported gone.
Posted by: clutch cargo at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (sLicW)
Posted by: Pierre at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (SkuXa)
This changes everything!
Posted by: Cucks Everywhere! at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (I2/tG)
Butplug is a fucking idiot who will go absolutely nowhere in the race. He's a fucking little worm.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 05:23 PM (Urdq9)
Still a number of places in the states I want to visit first.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (rxtQa)
So.
Is this covered in any of Nostrdamus Quattrrains??
Posted by: fixerupper at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (8XRCm)
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And a place of worship shall be engulfed in flame. The man who married his mother shall lead the grieving.
Posted by: Nostradamas at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (gC2IV)
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I don't get the joke.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 05:20 PM (AzW6q)
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I think it's a reference to Notre Dame (the University, not the cathedral) and their football program.
Tasteless move, Ben.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (I2dne)
church in the world, sitting on a fucking river no less, and the first
firemen on the scene don't even bust out the hoses."
We've all been ragging on the firefighters, but we should remember
that when they got there, the fire was taking place 300' over their
heads and above a heavy wooden ceiling, in a large space running the
length of the building, with NO firebreaks built in, and no access.
Again, you either pre-install fire alarms and fire abatement
equipment in a space like this, or you accept that if a fire ever
starts, the building is lost. They never bothered to install any safety
systems where they should have.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 05:13 PM
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Don't forget that the entire place was filled with priceless art and artifacts that would be ruined or destroyed by water.
there is no way any Fire Captain want's to be "that guy" who destroyed countless works of art by spraying water all over.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 15, 2019 05:27 PM (JUOKG)
I assume they MUST have saved it. It would be the very first thing that the priests grab as they run out the door.
* Note: I also saw various Crowns of Thorns in Rome and elsewhere in Italy. Those Crusaders brought back a lot of "relics," not all of which are what they purport to be. But of all of them, the Notre Dame Crown was the most impressive.
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:27 PM (5tb4C)
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Ben Shapiro, the Vanessa Baxter of the cucks.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (+y/Ru)
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Still a stupid joke. I get it now, but... stupid. Shapiro's a penis.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 05:27 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:27 PM (5tb4C)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:27 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (O2RFr)
I'm not totally up on this, but I read that Pence hadn't even said anything about him since, oh, 2015 or so and even then it was complimentary.
It's just scum being scum.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 05:27 PM (Urdq9)
Tasteless move, Ben.
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Reminds me of the Rabbi who asked Seinfeld if it offends him as a Jew. And Jerry says, it offends me as a comedian.
Posted by: SH at April 15, 2019 05:27 PM (sX1BW)
The most annoying voice I ever heard, regardless of what he was talking about. Didn't even sound remotely male.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at April 15, 2019 05:28 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Ha at April 15, 2019 05:24 PM (MAstk)
Why? Wendell Wilkie busy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2019 05:28 PM (bim/x)
Is this covered in any of Nostrdamus Quattrrains??
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According to an internet site, this is one of his predictions:
"Notre-Dame is engulfed with flames. Emotion of the whole nation. Thoughts are with Catholics and all the French. Like all citizens, I am sad to see this part of us burn."
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 15, 2019 05:28 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 15, 2019 05:28 PM (6qErC)
One of the things that impressed me about the Russians was that they completely rebuilt the Czarist palaces outside of St Petersburg that were leveled in the Second World War.
They may have been communists, but they were also Russians, and it was a way of giving a big FU to the Germans.
We'll see about France.
Posted by: Cucks Everywhere! at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 05:23 PM (Urdq9)
Still a number of places in the states I want to visit first.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (rxtQa)
More than enough places to last the rest of my lifetime.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (Urdq9)
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (bim/x)
I refused to go in that place. Nothing there I wanted to see, nothing there worth respecting.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (VwHJ2)
Butplug is a fucking idiot who will go absolutely nowhere in the race. He's a fucking little worm.""
He's trying to goad Pence into an argument. From what I've read, the VP isn't taking the bait.
Posted by: Tuna at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (Tc0qu)
what they purport to be. But of all of them, the Notre Dame Crown was
the most impressive."
They would not be the first, nor last, tourists to be swindled by the locals.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick Up a Copy of The Daily Panic at The Outrage Outlet! at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (MIvvh)
Captioned : Trump truly does make things great again.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (rxtQa)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 15, 2019 05:28 PM (6qErC)
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Without the stick-to-it-iveness.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Publius Redux
We SHOULD feel emotional about it - this building was one of the greatest achievements of Western Civilization, built just when it was beginning to flower. We kept it intact for over 800 years - and not have lost it today. It's worth weeping over.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: betty at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (aUHJk)
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (pUCs/)
What is the name of the metal pointy tip of an arrow?
"Arrowhead"? I thought that just referred to obsidian neolithic/Native America arrow...ends
Arrow tip? Arrow point? I'm referring to the sharp pointy metal cap, meant to puncture things, placed on the end of the arrow shaft.
L'il help?
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (5tb4C)
Posted by: Tuna at April 15, 2019 05:21 PM (Tc0qu)
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I imagine all the stained glass is toast. Lead melts at a fairly low temperature. Even if the fire weren't this bad, I suspect the stained glass would be gone.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: Cucks Everywhere! at April 15, 2019 05:26 PM (I2/tG)
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LOL
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (jUVms)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 15, 2019 05:19 PM (elsTe)
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The priest is leading the people in the worship of God --- God's position being symbolically at the altar. The focus is on the Transcendent.
In the New Mass the priest leads people in the worship of each other and of him.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (Rxduq)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (Urdq9)
Who the fuck even is William Weld?"
JB's cousin.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 15, 2019 05:28 PM (6qErC)
Not cousins, but they shared a special bond.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (t6MX/)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (BbGew)
Rumor has it that you can build a small house out of all the pieces of the "True Cross" that the Crusaders brought back.
Posted by: The ARC of History at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Ex-liberal at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (R1mDg)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (FSPNP)
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (jUVms)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (FSPNP)
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#Breaking: Just in - The structure of the Notre Dame Cathedral in #Paris has been saved from total destruction French media are saying and fire department reporting. #NotreDame in #France
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (Xqo6t)
Posted by: Nostradamas
Fires from hellNot destroyed by HisterProfits followers celebrate
No more gold for the city
Posted by: the Real Nostradmus at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (Z3zSO)
"Deleted my tweet joking about Trump and Notre Dame football. Wrong time, obviously. Apologies, all."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (wYseH)
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"Arrowhead" refers to an ignominious house of perfidy ruled over by a corpulent fool named "Andy Reid."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 05:32 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 15, 2019 05:32 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Ha at April 15, 2019 05:24 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
*gasp*
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 15, 2019 05:32 PM (Pj/7Q)
During which time (1906) all the churches burned to the ground and Hotaling's Whiskey (a huge warehouse) was spared.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at April 15, 2019 05:32 PM (w7KSn)
I said, "It rings a bell."
Then I laughed at her joke just to be on the safe side.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at April 15, 2019 05:17 PM (/Fmtj)
An old, old New Yorker cartoon shows a hunchback and a young woman sitting under a big bell. Hunchback looks sad. Caption: "I'm not even a real Modo."
Posted by: Gref at April 15, 2019 05:33 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 15, 2019 05:33 PM (wGqjj)
Posted by: Ex-liberal at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (R1mDg)
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I think it's time to put tribalism to the side, and admit that both the church and the fire were wrong.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 05:33 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (5tb4C)
If it's points, it's "field points." If it has blades, typically "broadhead." Both are "arrow heads," as are many of the small game heads like "blunts."
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 05:33 PM (t6MX/)
Posted by: @The RealRealNostradamus at April 15, 2019 05:33 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:33 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:34 PM (rxtQa)
Any video yet of crowds of non-specific creed cheering?
Posted by: davidt at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (+IOFD)
So Buttgag is the JussieSmollett of politicians.
Posted by: Boots at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (e9omi)
Also, it can't be a good sign that this Icon of Christianity is burning down during Holy Week.
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage!
This does strike me as a particularly evil omen.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 15, 2019 04:53 PM (AM1GF)
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This is my thought as well.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (aWjrD)
Its a good response, but he and we know why: its a way of getting noticed, its publicity for a small time unknown with a stupid weird name.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Elliot m at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (2pmjB)
I hope 499 is as optimistic as it sounds and that they can repair - as opposed to rebuild - it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (5tb4C)
If it's points, it's "field points." If it has blades, typically "broadhead." Both are "arrow heads," as are many of the small game heads like "blunts."
Posted by: flounder
What would you call a very old one (date unknown) that is just a straight-up plain ol' conical point? Nothing fancy, no 'blades" or anything.
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (5tb4C)
And once again, I'm so sick to death of people who can't wait to call a US news outlet to cry-brag about being in Paris and watching the cathedral burn. "Just yesterday, we were eating croissant along the Seine after touring Notre Dame. I just can't even now." And as a woman cry-bragging to Shep! said, "Well, we're off to London tomorrow."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 05:36 PM (ptqGC)
It's arrowhead. Hadn't changed.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation
That makes it easy. Thx.
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:36 PM (5tb4C)
that is just a straight-up plain ol' conical point? Nothing fancy, no
'blades" or anything.
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (5tb4C)
Bodkin?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2019 05:37 PM (t6MX/)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:33 PM (BbGew)
Because Mayor Petey has to differentiate himself from the rest of the Democrats, and his thing is gay gay gay and Pence is a Christian.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick Up a Copy of The Daily Panic at The Outrage Outlet! at April 15, 2019 05:37 PM (MIvvh)
European Churches: Vandalized, Defecated On, and Torched "Every Day"
Countless churches throughout Western Europe are being vandalized, defecated on, and torched.
In
France, two churches are desecrated every day on average. According to
PI-News, a German news site, 1,063 attacks on Christian churches or
symbols (crucifixes, icons, statues) were registered in France in 2018.
This represents a 17% increase compared to the previous year (2017),
when 878 attacks were registered -- meaning that such attacks are only
going from bad to worse.
.
.
It's a good conservative site but there are alot of ads on the page so using an adblocker is recommended:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3q2mkpf
Posted by: andycanuck at April 15, 2019 05:37 PM (Dh1wo)
Donna-
Buttigieg was trying to drag pence into a argument that didn't exist:
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2019 05:31 PM (FSPNP)
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This seems to be the standard M.O. of the left.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 15, 2019 05:37 PM (aWjrD)
Posted by: Gaza Confectioners, Inc. at April 15, 2019 05:37 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: pj at April 15, 2019 05:37 PM (qlTN9)
Posted by: Miklos, a punter at April 15, 2019 05:37 PM (zCyNd)
So Buttgag is the JussieSmollett of politicians.
Posted by: Boots at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (e9omi)
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It turns out the Real Hero of 2019 was the gay hoax-peddling charlatans we met along the way!
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 15, 2019 05:38 PM (AzW6q)
I refused to go in that place. Nothing there I wanted to see, nothing there worth respecting.
____________
A few years ago, when Christie was calling Americans who opposed the proposed Ground Zero victory mosque a bunch of "bigots" I was hoping some patriots would string that guy up.
Seriously, WTF is wrong with these people? (And by people, I mean people like Christie. We know what's wrong with the muzzies.)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 15, 2019 05:38 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: Elliot m at April 15, 2019 05:35 PM (2pmjB)
Do you have a sense of how the Parisians are taking this?
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:38 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 05:39 PM (rxtQa)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 05:39 PM (MTjB1)
What do you think the 2016 field composition was?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 05:39 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 15, 2019 05:39 PM (r+sAi)
Buttplug is just playing to his base with one of those left wing conspiracy theories that don't exist.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 15, 2019 05:39 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 05:39 PM (MTjB1)
A young Tuesday Weld could give Trump a run for his money, IYKWIM.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 15, 2019 05:39 PM (r+sAi)
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Nah. He'd make her sign an NDA.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 05:40 PM (AzW6q)
Butplug is a fucking idiot who will go absolutely nowhere in the race. He's a fucking little worm.""
He's trying to goad Pence into an argument. From what I've read, the VP isn't taking the bait.
Posted by: Tuna at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (Tc0qu)
Buttplug will keep ramping it up until he challenges Pence into having sex with him to prove he is not a bigot.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 15, 2019 05:40 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 15, 2019 05:40 PM (6qErC)
Posted by: Tom Builder at April 15, 2019 05:40 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:38 PM (RD7QR)
I saw a video on twitter of a bunch of people singing...some even on their knees. I actually believe one guy had a rosary!
I'll see if I can find it....
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 05:41 PM (cF8AT)
It's like a movie. Unreal. It makes want to cry.
Posted by: the Real Nostradmus at April 15, 2019 05:41 PM (Z3zSO)
Arrowhead is the general term for the metal tip of an arrow as well as for flint or stone arrowheads. Some medieval subtypes include bodkin points and broadheads, which could penetrate armor. Anyway, go ahead and use "arrowhead" for any type of sharp tip attached to an arrow shaft.
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 15, 2019 05:41 PM (pPNCa)
And the arrowhead can be a 'field tip' (for targets) or a 'broad head' (for hunting)..
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 05:41 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Tom Builder
I loved the first of the series. the other two, not so much
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 15, 2019 04:46 PM (fuK7c)"
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And what if they find that's exactly how it happened?
Swept under the rugs of elite Parisian salons?
Posted by: Decaf at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (PUz4C)
Posted by: Miklos, on the safe side at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (zCyNd)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:43 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Miklos, on the safe side at A
what he said
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 05:43 PM (MTjB1)
What is the name of the metal pointy tip of an arrow?
"Arrowhead"? I thought that just referred to obsidian neolithic/Native America arrow...ends
Arrow tip? Arrow point? I'm referring to the sharp pointy metal cap, meant to puncture things, placed on the end of the arrow shaft.
L'il help?
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (5tb4C)
Tip and point work well. You can even use 'head' too.
field tip/point
broad head
Posted by: Oral Roberts at April 15, 2019 05:43 PM (1g7ch)
But the wine! What about the wine?!?
Posted by: clutch cargo at April 15, 2019 05:43 PM (sLicW)
Actually sounds like sexual terms.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation
Now I need to take a cold shower.
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:43 PM (5tb4C)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (BbGew)
That doesn't make it so.
Posted by: DR.WTF at April 15, 2019 05:43 PM (aS1PU)
https://tinyurl.com/y4day2or
Also came across this while looking for the video:
@JakubKrupa 3 minutes ago
BREAKING: Macron announces national subscription and calls for help from around the world to rebuild Notre Dame.
Ummm....
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 05:43 PM (cF8AT)
I hope that the cathedral at Chartres, Bishop Suger's great work, is
currently surrounded by a French armoured division, if they have one.
Posted by: Miklos, on the safe side at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (zCyNd)
Lol. A couple of gendarme in Renaults carrying nightsticks with the thing that goes up.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 15, 2019 05:44 PM (ptqGC)
Swept under the rugs of elite Parisian salons?
Posted by: Decaf at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (PUz4C)
Psst.
Dreyfus.
Posted by: Ilhan Omar (D-Mogadishu et banlieus) at April 15, 2019 05:44 PM (zCyNd)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 05:44 PM (Z3zSO)
Arrowhead is the general term for the metal tip of an arrow as well as for flint or stone arrowheads. Some medieval subtypes include bodkin points and broadheads, which could penetrate armor. Anyway, go ahead and use "arrowhead" for any type of sharp tip attached to an arrow shaft.
Posted by: Basement Cat
Thank you!
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:45 PM (5tb4C)
You'd think that would have been a clue to the authorities that Roman Catholics and their symbols were under assault.
Posted by: Boots at April 15, 2019 05:45 PM (e9omi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (MTjB1)
++++++++++
Cathedrals always matter. They're provincial seats of power for the Church, and that's a pretty big one. And it being Lent and coming up on Easter, I imagine they were quite busy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 05:45 PM (I2dne)
I don't know that so I think best to wait.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick Up a Copy of The Daily Panic at The Outrage Outlet! at April 15, 2019 05:45 PM (MIvvh)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:46 PM (BbGew)
one of France's greatest treasures, what the fuck good are they?
Broward county is looking for that kind of professional in their fire department to complement Sheriff Israels deputies. That way if the next shooter is also an arsonist - both departments can stay in the parking lot writing reports in triplicate while children trapped in the building scream. Then, both those groups of professionals can file for disability when they say those screams gave them PTSD.
Posted by: An Observation at April 15, 2019 05:46 PM (KoBpR)
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (5tb4C)
LOL, everyone is right. Point. All the other parts of the arrow have nifty names (save for the shaft). Fletching, nock, cresting.
Posted by: clutch cargo at April 15, 2019 05:46 PM (sLicW)
Ummm....
Posted by: Tami
Let's contribute workers (Catholic, at least).
Posted by: Illegal Immigrant Center #116 at April 15, 2019 05:46 PM (zCyNd)
At first they seemed stunned. Then groups gathered and started to sing hymns.
I saw an elderly nun make her way to the front of the crowd and just shake her head. It was poignant.
Posted by: Elliot m at April 15, 2019 05:46 PM (2pmjB)
Arrow tip? Arrow point? I'm referring to the sharp pointy metal cap, meant to puncture things, placed on the end of the arrow shaft.
L'il help?
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (5tb4C)
Tip and point work well. You can even use 'head' too.
field tip/point
broad head
Posted by: Oral Roberts
Target point.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 15, 2019 05:47 PM (uAgHA)
would not be the eucharist. It would be relics as you first supposed. The eucharist has nothing at all to do with saints.
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 05:47 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Zombie Nero at April 15, 2019 05:47 PM (+IOFD)
Arrow tip? Arrow point? I'm referring to the sharp pointy metal cap, meant to puncture things, placed on the end of the arrow shaft.
L'il help?
Posted by: zombie at April 15, 2019 05:30 PM (5tb4C)
Tip and point work well. You can even use 'head' too.
field tip/point
broad head
Posted by: Oral Roberts
Target point.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 15, 2019 05:47 PM (uAgHA)
penis head
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 05:48 PM (GBteo)
The ceiling stones fell to the floor 300 feet below, fatal missles every one. A fire such as this one could not be fought or contained.
When such cathedrals were built in the 300-year period starting about 1000 A.D., the hoisting of everything, timbers, lead sheets, stone for ceilings, and more, was done using what, in effect, looked like a kingsized man-driven hamster wheel.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 15, 2019 05:48 PM (+fPHo)
Don't want to be one of those crazy conspiracy theorists who believe stuff like, say, Obama ordered the Feds to spy on Trump before he was elected. That would be CRAZY.
Posted by: Joseph Dickerson at April 15, 2019 05:48 PM (LDV7V)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2019 05:48 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: REDACTED at April 15, 2019 05:48 PM (RZ6R1)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (6qErC)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (uAgHA)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (dUJdY)
........
I'm sure Iran, Syria, Afghanistan and Libya will be happy to donate sand.
Posted by: wth at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Bishops and dioceses have been knocking down fine old RC churches all over the country, and re-organizing their congregations to split them up, over this theological issue. It has come nearly to blows, and to occupation and eviction, at several places, including Boston.
To old line Catholics, it's right at the heart of the godless commies taking over the Church. I'm not RC, but their fake "Spirit of Vatican II" interrupted my public school Latin career (local priests had enough pull with Bd of Educ to get Latin cancelled, because it had become an embarrassment to them). That interruption cost me actual money in college, and I shall never forgive them.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 15, 2019 05:50 PM (8ZmvG)
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 05:50 PM (Z3zSO)
Since 987, the kings of France were all crowned in Reims Cathedral, with the exception of Hugh Capet, Robert II, Louis VI, John I, Henry IV and Louis XVIII.
On December 16, 1431, Henry VI of England was crowned as "King of France" in the Notre Dame de Paris.
During the First French Empire, Emperor Napoleon I and Empress Josephine were crowned in December 1804 in an extremely elaborate ritual presided over by Pope Pius VII and conducted at the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.
Posted by: Gref at April 15, 2019 05:50 PM (AMIL/)
........
I'm sure Iran, Syria, Afghanistan and Libya will be happy to donate sand.
Posted by: wth at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (v0R5T)
Using stones from the Bamyan Buddhas would be a great COEXIST opportunity.
Posted by: Miklos, not in great mood at April 15, 2019 05:50 PM (zCyNd)
Posted by: wth at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (v0R5T)
Why not stained glass?
Posted by: Max Power at April 15, 2019 05:51 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (I2dne)"
It's the prior attempt and Friday's sentencing that is really raising red flags.
Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at April 15, 2019 05:51 PM (eAshZ)
Was his exact phrase, "what crawled up his a55?"
Posted by: Downcast at April 15, 2019 05:51 PM (2p/I6)
428 Ben Shapiro tweeted out "why doesn't the football team put it out?" He deleted the tweet.
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I don't get the joke.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
Trump's been to Paris I'm sure a couple of hundred times and they think he doesn't know what ND Cathedral is?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at April 15, 2019 05:52 PM (/Fmtj)
Posted by: Force de Frappe at April 15, 2019 05:52 PM (zCyNd)
I refused to go in that place. Nothing there I wanted to see, nothing there worth respecting.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 15, 2019 05:29 PM (VwHJ2)
I don't know where you got that quote, but it is wrong. The Blue Mosque was built on the site of one of the palaces of the Byzantine Emperors, the Great Palace. Which was their primary residence until 1204 when the Venetians took the city. Over the next 47 years the palace was mostly ruined by neglect (Baldwin II, the last Latin Emperor, actually removed and sold what remained of the lead roofing). When Michael Palaeologos re-took the city in 1261, the Great Palace was in such bad shape that he moved the Imperial residence to another palace within the city (the Blachernae Palace).
The Blue Mosque is, however, near the Hagia Sophia, which was the patriarchal cathedral of Constantinople until 1453, then a mosque until 1935, when Ataturk turned it into a museum.
Posted by: HTL at April 15, 2019 05:52 PM (xOOs/)
Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at April 15, 2019 05:51 PM (eAshZ)
+++++++++
Oh, sure. Plus Paris's general troubles. But even with those, I imagine the fire investigators are going to follow protocol and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the protocol is "do not assume arson."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 05:52 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Yup. It could also destroy a prosecution if they start out with incorrect statements if it later turned out to actually be a criminal act
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 15, 2019 05:52 PM (uAgHA)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 15, 2019 05:52 PM (8ZmvG)
Using stones from the Bamyan Buddhas would be a great COEXIST opportunity.
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Nah. If it's up to the Red Pope, he'll have a whole section rebuilt inside for our muslim brothers to worship.
Or he'll just rebuild it, and give it all to them except for a small chapel in the basement.
Yes, I am that cynical.
Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 15, 2019 05:53 PM (Z3zSO)
White man words for indian / native american arrows
- hunting arrow with vertical head
- war arrow with horizontal head
as seen in movies
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 15, 2019 05:53 PM (1g7ch)
"Arrowhead"? I thought that just referred to obsidian neolithic/Native America arrow...ends
Arrow tip? Arrow point? I'm referring to the sharp pointy metal cap, meant to puncture things, placed on the end of the arrow shaft.
L'il help?
Arrowhead.
Pile is an alternate term for medieval heads, particularly crossbow bolts.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 15, 2019 05:53 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (I2dne)
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All of what you said makes sense.
COUNTERPOINT: The media is saying it isn't arson, and every word that falls from their lips is a lie.
But yeah, aside from that, who really knows?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 05:54 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Mayor Buttgig at April 15, 2019 05:54 PM (zCyNd)
Posted by: ShainS -- PhD candidate in Angry Orange Male studies at April 15, 2019 05:54 PM (es5Qa)
Netflix Film
@NetflixFilm
Quick PSA: Can we stop calling films "chick flicks" unless the films are literally about small baby chickens? Here's why this phrase should absolutely be retired (thread):
There aren't sweeping categories specific to men. You don't hear people asking to watch "man movies" - instead, pretty much every intersection of genre is on the table and seen as for men, except of course, the aforementioned rom-coms.
-
Oh, I think there are man flicks, alright. I haven't heard many chicks talk about how great Saving Private Ryan was.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2019 05:54 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 15, 2019 05:48 PM (+fPHo)
Admittedly, the sheer size of Notre Dame plus the old architecture makes this plausible. I hoped the firefighters would have a plan, especially considering how long the fire was burning, but hindsight is 20/20.
The thing is, France is already a powder keg for nationalism vs globalism. People mistrust their elite experts, if they don't loathe the experts and wish for death/ deportation. On top of the history of church fires... it won't matter if there is a responsible party or not. An errant spark could send France up in flames. President Trump hates Macron and might happily provide that spark to burn down the Fifth Republic.
Interesting times.
Posted by: trev006 at April 15, 2019 05:55 PM (6n54H)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 15, 2019 05:52 PM (uAgHA)
Nope, they follow the code of Napoleon there.
You are innocent until proven guilty.
Posted by: Don Q at April 15, 2019 05:55 PM (NgKpN)
You mean why did they do that? Because they were supposed to face east and face the altar. Novus Ordo has the priest face west in pre vatican II churches to face the people. And they aren't "reciting" they're consecrating.
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 05:55 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: lurker
It's not like some people did something at the World Trade Center, before that, um, other time.
Posted by: Ilhan Omar (D-Mogadishu) at April 15, 2019 05:55 PM (zCyNd)
Posted by: betty at April 15, 2019 05:56 PM (aUHJk)
Kansas City, I think.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (6qErC)
So faggots?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 05:56 PM (Urdq9)
99% of the workers doing the renovation would have been laborers imported from Turkey and North Africa in the last 10 years. Just saying.
Posted by: Swalloswell/Buttplug 2019 at April 15, 2019 05:57 PM (gqxu1)
Another reason to avoid the Twatter, but still can't.
All of the curse words just kind of get mixed up at a certain point.
That point was 2 hrs ago.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 15, 2019 05:57 PM (uAgHA)
Posted by: Miklos, not in great mood at April 15, 2019 05:50 PM (zCyNd)
Blocks from the Dome of the Rock?
Posted by: golfman at April 15, 2019 05:57 PM (OE84+)
At first they seemed stunned. Then groups gathered and started to sing hymns.
I saw an elderly nun make her way to the front of the crowd and just shake her head. It was poignant.
Posted by: Elliot m at April 15, 2019 05:46 PM (2pmjB)
Thanks for the video. It's good to see that some people besides us care about this.
Posted by: JONcelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at April 15, 2019 05:58 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Miklos, out squaring out the tzampotli expansion at April 15, 2019 05:58 PM (zCyNd)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 15, 2019 05:58 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 05:42 PM (BbGew)
Ye will know them by their deeds.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 05:59 PM (Urdq9)
Reflecting both the security situation for Jewish targets, and the military situation for the two countries.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2019 05:59 PM (QDnY+)
You are innocent until proven guilty.
Posted by: Don Q
Nothing you've written connects with my statement.
That said:
I'd love a system that considers the prosecution guilty until proven innocent.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 15, 2019 05:59 PM (uAgHA)
And I believe one important distinction between a "warhead" and a standard hunting point is the the Warheads will have the typical Arrowhead shape we know, with two broadly spaced backwards pointing tips making it very difficult and destructive to pull out. A hunting point would be more of a sharp edged pointed oval, a hunter wants to be able to pull his arrow out quickly without damaging it, so he can reuse it right away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2019 05:59 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Rene at April 15, 2019 05:59 PM (8QpYQ)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 15, 2019 05:59 PM (VwHJ2)
Dad snatched me away fairly quickly.
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 06:00 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 05:56 PM (Urdq9)
Hey now!
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 15, 2019 05:58 PM (dUJdY)
I detect a young'un.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 15, 2019 06:00 PM (Urdq9)
Posted by: davidt at April 15, 2019 06:00 PM (+IOFD)
Posted by: golfman
The Moon God rock would do as a mudscraper at the entrance.
Posted by: Miklos, least happy happy hour in memory at April 15, 2019 06:00 PM (zCyNd)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at April 15, 2019 06:01 PM (qM84C)
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 15, 2019 06:01 PM (Xqo6t)
Posted by: golfman at April 15, 2019 05:57 PM (OE84+)
If the used the black rock thing in the grand Mosque the silver urinal in the corner could be used for
a urinal.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 15, 2019 06:01 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 06:01 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2019 06:02 PM (BbGew)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 15, 2019 06:02 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 15, 2019 06:02 PM (dUJdY)
And I apologize to everyone stuck behind the lines, but it's primarily coming from CA and NY.
Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at April 15, 2019 06:03 PM (eAshZ)
Posted by: golfman at April 15, 2019 05:57 PM (OE84+)
If the used the black rock thing in the grand Mosque the silver urinal in the corner could be used for
a urinal.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 15, 2019 06:01 PM (1g7ch)
Better to shatter the rock, as it makes pretty much the entire claim of Islam to be invalid.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 15, 2019 06:03 PM (pgXNG)
Mary is SO RIGHT!!!
His Russian "girlfriends" could have put out!
The fire, I mean.
Posted by: Concerned Woman of Brattleboro at April 15, 2019 06:03 PM (zCyNd)
Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2019 06:03 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 15, 2019 06:04 PM (AzW6q)
I imagine that pr0nhub would have an inventory of "man flicks".
A good test would be this, after someone watches a certain movie and that person says:
"I went through a whole box of Kleenex"
If it is a woman, its a chick flick.
If it is a man, its a man flick.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 15, 2019 06:04 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 15, 2019 06:04 PM (PC5Ge)
Posted by: Rene at April 15, 2019 06:04 PM (8QpYQ)
Posted by: dagny at April 15, 2019 06:01 PM
You'll engage in shenanigans?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 15, 2019 06:06 PM (PC5Ge)
Posted by: gp Put Down Roots In A Sh!thole at April 15, 2019 06:06 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 15, 2019 06:06 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 15, 2019 06:08 PM (PC5Ge)
and burnt the place to the ground.
Smoke on the Water,
And fire in the sky.
Posted by: Some Stupid with a Flare Gun at April 15, 2019 06:12 PM (cCxiu)
Posted by: Surfperch at April 15, 2019 06:15 PM (tVQUs)
Posted by: wth at April 15, 2019 05:49 PM (v0R5T)
Why not stained glass?
Trinitite only comes in green.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 15, 2019 06:22 PM (0bu2O)
Posted by: Xaver Basora at April 15, 2019 06:30 PM (DmRrG)
I understand when the very larger, new Grand Mosque will be built on the property, a small room will be built in the basement to hold these artifacts. Not certain if the room will be open to the public however.
Posted by: melskia1944 at April 15, 2019 06:50 PM (bD2nl)
Posted by: Red headed 'ette at April 15, 2019 06:54 PM (5Q+j+)
Posted by: gp Put Down Roots In A Sh!thole at April 15, 2019 06:06 PM (mk9aG)
This is a joke right?
Posted by: literally serious at April 15, 2019 07:15 PM (S4XGD)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Ridiculous Bullshit at April 15, 2019 07:26 PM (vcatx)
Posted by: Banjo at April 15, 2019 07:46 PM (SYCeT)
My father went to Mass there while recuperating from one of those things people do so you get this purple thing
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at April 15, 2019 08:21 PM (fikzx)
In the meantime, it appears Notre Dam is looking at decades of rebuilding. Well I can't think of better things to spend money on.
Posted by: Xavier Basora at April 15, 2019 09:55 PM (A4+/S)
2.Ilhan Omar will agree with Farrakhan and claim "White Nationalists" are threatening her for revealing the truth.
3.ISIS will claim they did it in revenge for getting destroyed in Syria.
4.The Iranian mullahs will claim that it was "the will of Allah", but somehow Trump was involved.
5.Algore will insist it was sparked by Global Warming because Trump isn't devoting federal resources to it.
6.Nadler, Schiff and a posse of other Congressional Democrats will declare they need to see the entire Mueller Report to see if Trump colluded with the Russians to do it.
7.The Southern Poverty Law Center will claim it was a conspiracy among 50 Known Hate Groups They Can Name, and they're holding a major fund raiser to continue their work.
8.The Westboro Baptist Church will claim G-d did it, Because Homosexuals.
9.CNN will announce Breaking News that un-named sources will claim that they overheard that Trump made a secret trip to Paris that day.
10.Some Millenial will ask on Twitter whether the football field was damaged by the fire.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 15, 2019 10:39 PM (DPi4l)
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Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)