Surreal Thread Before the Gardening Thread [KT]

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Surrealism

According to the Britannica link above, surrealism in art and literature was supposed to have been confined to the period between WWI and WWII, more or less. But I think that we still have some surrealism with us today. At least in terms of its emphasis on the irrational.

The image of melting clocks seems appropriate to a piece of intersectional scholarship picked up by David Thompson:

According to our feminist educator, time "doesn't feel linear" for black people - all of them, presumably - because, she says, they live with "the residue of past historical trauma." You see, for "African-American folks," the present "feels like the past" - specifically, "narratives of race that are rooted in violence and a lack of freedom" - i.e., slavery - "can become our reality again at any moment."

And the very concept of time is racially biased. "White people own time". Sometimes I have problems with time. Maybe I need to get some genealogical work done to find out why I have a tendency to be late.

Maybe if I became a leftist, I could start slacking for social justice.

Thompson also mentioned an article in City Journal about leftist theories of crime.

The gulf between numbers on a spreadsheet and the harsh realities of the world sometimes fosters a romanticised view of criminals as victims, making it easier for criminologists to overlook the damage that lawbreakers cause--and to advocate for more lenient policies and treatment. Evidence of the liberal tilt in criminology is widespread. Surveys show a 30:1 ratio of liberals to conservatives within the field, a spread comparable with that in other social sciences.

May be worse in California. But it reminded Thompson of:

a Guardian interview with lawyer and activist Clive Stafford Smith, who airily dismissed burglary as "really quite inconsequential," thereby implying that the wellbeing of burglars is more important than the wellbeing of their numerous, often very poor, victims. Especially if the burglar is a "young black person." According to Mr Stafford Smith and Guardian columnist Decca Aitkenhead - for whom, such things are largely theoretical and not a routine fact of life - anger at being burgled and the subsequent sense of violation are somehow trivial, plebeian and unsophisticated. And so, these enlightened creatures pretend to feel sympathy for career criminals who may prey on their neighbours for years, while disdaining the victims' expectations of lawfulness, and justice, as "idiotic attitudes."

As always, scroll through the comments to Thompson's post. There is a suggestion that the academics above probably have security systems installed in their residences, "indicating neither consider burglary quite as 'inconsequential' as they claim it is."

Though I guess it is possible that they leave their doors unlocked to prevent burglary damage. What do you think?

Meanwhile, there were some good links at Maggies Farm on Monday, including a security system recommendation. If you're not too worried about Google spying on you. There are a couple of troubling links about Google, too. Could you have predicted this dilemma 15 years ago?

Hope that you have a good weekend, free of burglars and spies. Closing question: Is this proof that white people own time? Or not?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:19 AM




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1 Who authored this nonsense thread?!?!??!?! It is UNSIGNED.

Coward.


Oh, and,

Sponge.

Posted by: FIRST!!!!! at April 13, 2019 11:22 AM (C1NyB)

2 Time magazine, owned by white people. A worthy theory.

Posted by: Phil Collins at April 13, 2019 11:26 AM (kSI64)

3 FIRST!!!!! at April 13, 2019 11:22 AM

Thanks for the reminder

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at April 13, 2019 11:27 AM (BVQ+1)

4 Willowed, of course.

The scandal was 1919, the Great Depression started around 1929/30.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker


You're correct. I was wrong. I thought it was 1909.
I was off by 10 years. Sorry.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2019 11:27 AM (dDUXP)

5 Sorry, KT. I jumped off the handle, there.

I'm out of coffee.

Posted by: FIRST!!!!! at April 13, 2019 11:28 AM (C1NyB)

6 Well, fun car talk last thread.

Gotta run!

Y'all have a great day.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 13, 2019 11:29 AM (6qErC)

7 Ha!

Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2019 11:29 AM (LuPts)

8 Yeah academics like to say poverty causes crime. The two are pretty correlated but the causation is backwards. Crime will cause poverty as people who want to work and grow their wealth so they can live a comfortable lifestyle will move away from being surrounded by crime.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 13, 2019 11:31 AM (pAkRe)

9 FIRST!!!!'s comment is the only one showing as I type this. It may be the only one needed.

Nevertheless, I'm going to muck it up with a comment.

Hay, ho, Horde.

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 11:31 AM (PLU0I)

10 Good thread KT.
As for the art I hate surrealism

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 11:32 AM (BbGew)

11

1919, eh?

Maybe we'll have a nice big sports scandal in 2020.

Posted by: Soothie at April 13, 2019 11:32 AM (STcMP)

12 So OB is actually KT? OK.

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 11:34 AM (PLU0I)

13 And as for white people owning time Mooch tried to pull that onto Jug Ears.

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 11:34 AM (BbGew)

14 surrealism reminds me of depression

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 13, 2019 11:34 AM (0O7c5)

15 12 mostly is

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 11:35 AM (BbGew)

16 WW 1 screwed up a lot of things. People searching for the meaning of life. Well at least more than usual.



Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 13, 2019 11:35 AM (2DOZq)

17 4 Willowed, of course.

The scandal was 1919, the Great Depression started around 1929/30.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker


You're correct. I was wrong. I thought it was 1909.
I was off by 10 years. Sorry.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2019 11:27 AM (dDUXP)


Also willowed:

Funny thing is, there actually was a depression in 1920, which is when the scandal broke. We don't hear much about that depression because the government did nothing and let the economy sort itself out. It was over in a year, and then came the economic boom of the Roaring 20's.

Posted by: rickl at April 13, 2019 11:36 AM (sdi6R)

18
1919 was a hundred years ago.

Posted by: Soothie at April 13, 2019 11:36 AM (STcMP)

19

Funny thing is, there actually was a depression in 1920, which is when the scandal broke.

Ha!

Posted by: Soothie at April 13, 2019 11:37 AM (STcMP)

20
All I know is that time keeps on slipping into the future.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 11:38 AM (HaL55)

21 Funny thing is, there actually was a depression in 1920, which is when the scandal broke.

Ha!
Posted by: Soothie at April 13, 2019 11:37 AM (STcMP)

There goes the theory that a World War will get you out of a depression.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 13, 2019 11:39 AM (2DOZq)

22
And time has come today. It wants a cigarette now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 11:39 AM (HaL55)

23 I'm so tired of working for the man. It requires me to get up early and go to work at the same time every day, instead of when I feel like it, IF I feel like it. I'm pretty sure the Habsburgs oppressed my people at some point. It's a recovered memory, is what it is. Yay, I'm free!!!!


Posted by: pep at April 13, 2019 11:40 AM (T6t7i)

24
Time: see what it's done to me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 11:40 AM (HaL55)

25 The forecast 2+" of rain has begun. It's been pouring all winter and spring. I've never seen these hills so green. And they're a riot of color...redbuds, oramental pears, flowering crabapples...and dogwoods everywhere, lighting up the dark valleys. Dogwoods are so beautiful there are no worto describe them.

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 11:41 AM (PLU0I)

26 Academic relativism is academic relativism, doesn't matter which side of the Arts and Sciences college gate you hang out on. All this modern physics, TO INCLUDE Gurlz' Pix of Black Holes, that denies time and causality, is the same relativism that chall blame the English and Philosophy departments for when it's the excuse for keeping your daughter out after curfew.

Just looks different to you when you can put some formulae on the chalkboard. You know damned well that down in the corner there's a box reading "Then A Miracle Occurs."

Real conservatives are hard Newtonians. Look harder. It's in there.

On his deathbed, Newton stated that of all his accomplishments, he was proudest that he died a virgin.

A pal was sitting there and just had to ask, "What colour?"

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 13, 2019 11:41 AM (8ZmvG)

27 Art heist with special ties to Easter that was stolen in 1969 and has never been solved.

http://www.simplysarasota.com/MysteryStory6.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2019 11:42 AM (3Fpmk)

28 I keep time in a bottle.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 11:42 AM (+y/Ru)

29 Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care?

Posted by: Chicago Transit Authority at April 13, 2019 11:42 AM (zCabI)

30 Posted by: pep at April 13, 2019 11:40 AM (T6t7i)

You're being sarcastic but your first two sentences is exactly how I feel right now. The difference is I don't adhere to the remainder.




Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 13, 2019 11:42 AM (2DOZq)

31 Tiiiiiiiime is on the slide
Yes it is

Posted by: Insomniac at April 13, 2019 11:43 AM (ywNoU)

32 Time is a lubricant for pain, bitches! And then you die. Happy Saturday!

Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2019 11:43 AM (LuPts)

33
The clock on the tree says it's time to leave.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 13, 2019 11:43 AM (TAmPV)

34 ....i visited my family in ca....at the car rental the nice person at the counter tells me to be sure not to leave anything in the car as people break into cars all the time in the bay area.....when driving around with my mom in her car....she hid all her things so nothing was visible in her car when we parked...telling me about how cars are broken into all the time....my sister....the same thing.....they both added....that if someone is "that big of an idiot to leave something in plain sight...they deserve to be broken into".....i lost my mind....they've been brainwashed into thinking that leaving even a jacket or a book or a coin in sight that in itself would warrant a miscreant to break into their private property!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 13, 2019 11:43 AM (0O7c5)

35
Palm Sunday tomorrow?

Posted by: Soothie at April 13, 2019 11:44 AM (Q5iIO)

36 "words to". But then you probably already figured that out.

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 11:44 AM (PLU0I)

37 Hey Backwards Boy!

Insom told me he had a great time with y'all last night. How very cool.

I hope he gave you the hug I sent!

Cheers

Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 13, 2019 11:44 AM (PkVlr)

38 Surrealism is supposed to make you question reality and consider what the preconceptions are that are supported by familiar sights. Once the familiar sights of the world are distorted and represented in unusual and often frightening ways, it can kick the chocks out from under the preconceptions, and allows - or forces- reconsideration of the preconceptions that we carry with us in day to day life.

Originally it was a genre of art that followed WWI, and may have had the impetus by the question the war and its aftermath had; namely, now that we have done what we were supposed to and had this horrible world wide disaster that has destroyed us and killed us completely, was it worth it, and what went wrong? Were the tools wrong, or did we use them wrong?

Surrealism led by various steps to deconstructionism, which took the idea that literary and artistic tropes were culture based (why Japanese, Russian and Spanish fiction leaves so many English readers flat) and that in dissecting the tropes and underlying assumptions was a way to examine and understand basic preconceptions of a culture and a society.
This itself was seized on (or maybe pounced on, yes?) by critical theorists, along with the theory of neurolinguistics and advertising, as a tool to pull apart tropes as a way to get to the underpinnings of a culture, to allow the reassembly of the tropes to influence and change society itself into something "better" or more appropriate.

More appropriate of course generally means More Socialist, or More Advantageous For Socialist Intellectuals Who Don't Know How to Weld or Clean Out Irrigation Canals.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 13, 2019 11:44 AM (TN7xY)

39 Hi Insom!!!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at April 13, 2019 11:45 AM (PkVlr)

40 "Meanwhile, there were some good links at Maggies Farm on Monday,
including a security system recommendation. If you're not too worried
about Google spying on you. There are a couple of troubling links about
Google, too. Could you have predicted this dilemma 15 years ago?"

DO NOT USE THE NEST PRODUCTS. Jesus, how many times do we have to tell people that hundreds, if not thousands, of people all over the world have unrestricted, unaccountable real-time access to the Nest feeds. Same with Ring.

Re: crime: You know what pisses me off more than burglars? Stupid leftist-fuck academics that are frantic to become burglar-enablers. When the burning times come, people are going to remember that shit.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at April 13, 2019 11:46 AM (67XdO)

41 Re; The previous thread-I didn't make it to the weekend, yet since I work on Saturday and Sunday. I guess Monday and Tuesday are my weekends unless I have something going on related to the church.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 13, 2019 11:46 AM (FSPNP)

42 I was actually thinking about congressperson Omar when thinking about surreal things. Anybody seen the video where she laughs at someone for being more concerned about al Queda than about the US Army?

She's on the Foreign Intelligence Committee. AQ has published plans to conquer the world.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at April 13, 2019 11:47 AM (BVQ+1)

43 Helloooooooo nurse!

No hugging was involved. That would've made it weird.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 13, 2019 11:47 AM (ywNoU)

44 And I could be wrong, surrealism may have evolved in tandem or have been preceded by deconstructionism, surrealism being initially a painting and sculpture genre, and deconstructionism a literary one.

I believe Surrealism melded together with the arts and crafts school to give us Art Nouveau and, and later Art Deco.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 13, 2019 11:48 AM (TN7xY)

45 "She's on the Foreign Intelligence Committee. AQ has published plans to conquer the world."

I guess I was wrong, the US Constitution really is a suicide pact.

Posted by: navybrat, stays off BART trains at April 13, 2019 11:48 AM (w7KSn)

46 Aitkenhead and Smith really should be 'compelled' to house a few Syrian refugees along with a few other such 'disadvantaged' folk.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2019 11:48 AM (3Fpmk)

47 42 I was actually thinking about congressperson Omar when thinking about surreal things. Anybody seen the video where she laughs at someone for being more concerned about al Queda than about the US Army?

She's on the Foreign Intelligence Committee. AQ has published plans to conquer the world.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at April 13, 2019 11:47 AM (BVQ+1)


I won't even bother asking if she's OK with that.

Posted by: rickl at April 13, 2019 11:49 AM (sdi6R)

48 Prince sucked donkey balls.

Posted by: Morris Day and the Time at April 13, 2019 11:50 AM (Z+IKu)

49 39 Hi Insom!
posted by Nurse ratched @ 11:45

*goes all warm and fuzzy at this*

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 11:51 AM (PLU0I)

50 11/22/63 Somebody done somebody wrong

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 11:51 AM (+y/Ru)

51 time heals all wounds? Apparently not ... if there is profit to be made by picking at very old wounds, even if the actual wound healed long ago or never existed, and has nothing to do with (for example) funding jihadists to take over Minneapolis (via that "diversity is our strength, whitey is racist" subversive lie)


history is written by the winners? Well maybe ... the north won the civil war and Lincoln is written as a god like hero. And the industrialists got their leverage, and never let go, except the bankers really got the power, and now have 20 global banks legally identified as TooBigTooFail or Jail. no really, there is a list, other banks prosecuted, not those boys.

Time is malleable for those immortals traveling at relativistic speed, but mostly the Orwellian History writers are distorting the past for their personal gain, and dumbing down the public.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 13, 2019 11:52 AM (Cus5s)

52 25 The forecast 2+" of rain has begun. It's been pouring all winter and spring. I've never seen these hills so green. And they're a riot of color...redbuds, oramental pears, flowering crabapples...and dogwoods everywhere, lighting up the dark valleys. Dogwoods are so beautiful there are no worto describe them.
Posted by: creeper


Hiya, creeper.

No rain up here yet. I think the heavy downpour is holding off until curtain time for daughter's ballet tonight.

But, yes, what a Spring. Had to mow twice already, because the grass sprang up after the first cut like a beard hair in a razor commercial.

Posted by: mindful webworker's going to take in some culchuh tonight at April 13, 2019 11:52 AM (V0CWC)

53 Fen, your weeks are inside out.

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 11:53 AM (PLU0I)

54 Democrats went out of their way to get committee appointments as screwed up as they could.
Find the most idiotic person who couldn't balance a check book to run the country's finances
Let's get the most anti - American to control foreign affairs
Oh I found the most no borders fanatical person to overlook the Armed services committee

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 11:53 AM (BbGew)

55 She's on the Foreign Intelligence Committee.

-
Well, she's about as foreign to intelligence as you can get.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)

56 My art belongs to Dada.[

Posted by: Zombie Cole Porter at April 13, 2019 11:53 AM (0x00j)

57 So I guess I should stop working on the flux capacitor then eh?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 13, 2019 11:54 AM (0tfLf)

58 Dallas DA Legalizes Crime For The Poor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SupnqkJSWVg

Posted by: Propane and Propane Accessories at April 13, 2019 11:54 AM (NQfqB)

59 This is not an original idea, but today it feels new to me as it all finally clocks into place. The Democrats never stopped being slave owners. They still hunt down and punish runaway slaves.

Posted by: Max Power at April 13, 2019 11:54 AM (QCc6B)

Posted by: Zombie Cole Porter at April 13, 2019 11:54 AM (0x00j)

61 I read an article once that stated that black Africans had no indigenous languages that could indicate graduations, like half-way or at the top or bottom You are either up or down, here or there. Maybe it's the same with time for blacks. You either at work or not, never 2 hours late.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 13, 2019 11:55 AM (3sjI6)

62 There are other timekeeping systems other than what Western civ - and then the entire world adopted. The aviation industry must be racist because they observe the same timekeeping standard.

Posted by: kallisto at April 13, 2019 11:57 AM (tcamx)

63
Hi, Nurse ratched. Yeah, Insom, Jim NSD Tejas and I had a great time last night. No hugs, tho'.


It was great to meet those two in person. Insom and I sat afterwards and talked for a while before I had to go home and take care of B'Gal. He's a brainy dude.

We'll try to get together again before Jim heads back home. Hail fellows, well met.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 11:58 AM (HaL55)

64 In my language there's no word for reparations.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)

65 Hawaiian time is world record.

Posted by: Zombie Duke Kahanamoku at April 13, 2019 11:58 AM (0x00j)

66 So OB is actually KT? OK.

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 11:34 AM (PLU0I)

"Open Blogger" is a way that Ace allows regular folk to contribute to the blog. Or in KT's case, embarrassing the cobloggers by producing great content like this post and all of her other posts.



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2019 11:58 AM (yMA5i)

67 I was wondering how you (and Salty) were faring, mindful.
I made the statement in December that I would take every drop of rain I could get, after a parched summer. I'm beginning to regret tempting the Fates.

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 11:58 AM (PLU0I)

68 Posted by: Propane and Propane Accessories at April 13, 2019 11:54 AM (NQfqB)


.....

Won't be long now.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 13, 2019 12:00 PM (KnIfp)

69



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2019 11:58 AM (yMA5i)

don't sell yourself short......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 13, 2019 12:00 PM (0O7c5)

70 Thanks for the explanation, CBD. I've always wondered about OB but was embarrassed to ask.

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 12:01 PM (PLU0I)

71 Public transit schedules: RACIST

Posted by: kallisto at April 13, 2019 12:01 PM (tcamx)

72 KT puts up good threads at this time every week

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 12:01 PM (BbGew)

73 London police fire 10 shots, and being the London police it appears they missed, at a guy who repeatedly rammed a car outside the Ukrainian embassy in London.

http://tinyurl.com/y6cu5bb6

hmmmm

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2019 12:03 PM (/tuJf)

74 Thanks for the explanation, CBD. I've always wondered about OB but was embarrassed to ask.
Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 12:01 PM (PLU0I)


*pulls out "How to talk to your COB about open blogger" pamphlet*

*surreptitiously slides across to creeper*

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at April 13, 2019 12:03 PM (t+qrx)

75 The flux capacitor will not fit into a DeLorean cruiser, unless DeLorean made toroidally flying cars, dude!

Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2019 12:05 PM (LuPts)

76 According to our feminist educator


My I recommend my book "A Brief History of the Stupid Times"?

Posted by: zombie Stephen Hawking at April 13, 2019 12:06 PM (zCyNd)

77 The inability to integrate or process past trauma - that didn't even happen to oneself - is an attribute of psychosis.

Posted by: kallisto at April 13, 2019 12:06 PM (tcamx)

78 Am I the only one who sees the term "academic" and immediately thinks "idiot"?

Posted by: Miklos, official degree holder 'n stuff at April 13, 2019 12:07 PM (zCyNd)

79 Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 11:58 AM (HaL55)

Back at you, my friend. It was a great time, and I'm really glad we got to talk for awhile after your last set. It would be great if the three of us can meet up again before Jim has to head out.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 13, 2019 12:09 PM (ywNoU)

80 The ancient Roman hour was not a constant thing. They divided daylight into twelve hours and the darkness into twelve hours such that an hour in December was considerably shorter than an hour in June. I assume this was because their primary method of measuring time was the sundial (although they also had water clocks and hour glasses). An example of reality bending to accommodate our ability to measure.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 12:09 PM (+y/Ru)

81 (((hogmartin))). 'Preciate that.



I'm just a lowly 'ette. The only cob I talk to is MisHum...oh, and CBD at Ben's. Will admit they are both incredibly helpful. This is a pretty comfy place.

Posted by: creeper at April 13, 2019 12:10 PM (PLU0I)

82 Just bought my tickets to see the 60th anniversary of "Ben-Hur" on the big screen!

It's a Fathom events thing: Sunday and Wednesday.

Do not miss it!

Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:10 PM (vP0jg)

83 Well it can be lunch and as it has turned out to be a fantastic day need to get out in the yard/ garden.

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 12:11 PM (BbGew)

84 I'm an intersectional feminist. Whatever that is.

Posted by: freaked at April 13, 2019 12:11 PM (/lUq6)

85
But I think that we still have some surrealism with us today. At least in terms of its emphasis on the irrational.

Its adherents call it "Postmodernist thought." All it is, is a codified form of madness wherein absolutes don't exist, which in itself is a gigantic contradiction and is so easily disproven that it can be dismissed immediately. It makes no sense whatsoever, which can be fun for a while (especially if you're stoned), but when people begin to actually take it seriously, everyone else needs to look out.
This has only become an thing because the media is making it something we're supposed to pay attention to. Sorry, Progda, I like my reality just fine as it is, thankew. That's hard enough to deal with already. I don't need any more chaos than I already have.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 12:11 PM (HaL55)

86 ", to allow the reassembly of the tropes to influence and change society itself into something "better" or more appropriate. More appropriate of course generally means More Socialist" kindltot

The Roaring 20s also happened then ... and all that leverage in the stock market is what led to the depression. Time really is distorted when one can leverage money 300:1, as LTCM did in the 90's. Why wait for profits when one can take them off money you don't have?

Labor produces at a fixed rate, but leveraged money (fiat money enters a whole 'nuther dimension of evil) ... leveraged money consolidates profits into the hands of the leveraged lender. And our government underwrote them when they failed, so they became infinitely large.


imo the root of all this is monetary policy that keeps people chasing fake money ... but our laws have allowed the fake money to "buy" real things. (Lamborghinis from the last thread).


Worse is when they buy up the whole nation itself, and the politicians have allowed that, underwrote them by mortgaging the kids into debt in the future ... real time traveling there. (but their buying the real estate with fake money is the worst, imo) The "debt" including all the promises is $200T for US ... who wins in the foreclosure?

Posted by: illiniwek at April 13, 2019 12:13 PM (Cus5s)

87 mindfulwebworks.com/doodles/box-of-strange

Posted by: mindful webworker's whole life is surreal at April 13, 2019 12:14 PM (V0CWC)

88 I'm an intersectional feminist. Whatever that is.
Posted by: freaked at April 13, 2019 12:11 PM (/lUq6)


Most accidents occur at intersections.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at April 13, 2019 12:15 PM (t+qrx)

89 Salvador Dali??

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 13, 2019 12:16 PM (BqBId)

90 82 as Ben Hur is one of my favorites that would be a treat, especially to see the chariot race

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 12:16 PM (BbGew)

91 I'm a Male Lesbian

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 13, 2019 12:17 PM (BqBId)

92 I'm an intersectional feminist. Whatever that is.
Posted by: freaked at April 13, 2019 12:11 PM (/lUq6)

Most accidents occur at intersections.
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the summer

----

I might t-bone you at that intersection! (Say it like Drew from "Office Space.")

Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:17 PM (vP0jg)

93
Back at you, my friend. It was a great time, and I'm really glad we got
to talk for awhile after your last set. It would be great if the three
of us can meet up again before Jim has to head out.


It depends on Jim's schedule. And B'Gal's too, she has a couple of daktari appts, so we'll need to work around those, too. Hope to make it happen.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 12:17 PM (HaL55)

94 kindltot, those are insightful takes on the origins of a couple of movements. Let me toss in, though, that "art appreciation" styles of academic overview have done more to roll them up together than mere reality would have: I've read quite a few essays and notes (should not admit, but, Tuchman among them) who say that the end-of-the-era, all-is-lost artistic (and more!) worldview was rolling along with some impetus well before World War I, even before the Decembrist rebellion in 1905.

What to make of this depends in part on whether you think the whole world really was changing its nature, and whether you are for that or a-gin it, and maybe not so much on whether you like the looks of the art that came out of it.
I've seen better nudes descending better staircases, so to speak.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 13, 2019 12:18 PM (8ZmvG)

95

The Lou Grant TV show had an episode called "Indians."
It was about the plight of Indians (feather not dot) in America. One of the sub-plots was about an Indian having trouble keeping a job because he wouldn't show up to work on time. The even mentioned the phrase "Indian time."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 13, 2019 12:19 PM (aKsyK)

96 82 as Ben Hur is one of my favorites that would be a treat, especially to see the chariot race
Posted by: Skip

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I love how there's that bold music all throughout the movie, except for the chariot race. The music drops out and it's just 10 minutes of horse hooves beating in the dirt.

Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:19 PM (vP0jg)

97 Just bought my tickets to see the 60th anniversary of "Ben-Hur" on the big screen!

It's a Fathom events thing: Sunday and Wednesday.

Do not miss it!
Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:10 PM (vP0jg)

Psst. Don't waste your money. Charlton Heston wins the chariot race.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 13, 2019 12:20 PM (3sjI6)

98 Psst. Don't waste your money. Charlton Heston wins the chariot race.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male

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Spoiler alert! The Jesus character gets killed!

Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:20 PM (vP0jg)

99 Psst. Don't waste your money. Charlton Heston wins the chariot race.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male

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But the cool part is watching him win the chariot race on a sled named Rosebud!

So it's no wonder Rhett doesn't give a damn!

Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:22 PM (vP0jg)

100

You watch, crime stats in Dallas will drop, but there will be a huge increase in shootings.

Anyone wish to argue that?

Posted by: irongrampa at April 13, 2019 12:22 PM (KATBx)

101 An idea was born, time as a physical part of this universe.A Hypothesis was born, if we send a satellite around the Earth, it's greater speed than Earth will mean that time moves at a different rate on that satellite. The experiment was done, the extremely accurate clocks measured time moving at a different rate on the satellite than on Earth.

Conclusion, time is a physical part of this universe, a physical property. As such, it is not racially or in any other way biased. If, therefor, you see it as biased, you are wrong, and proven wrong. You are at odds with the physical properties of this universe, you cannot accept reality, you are insane.

Posted by: SanityClause at April 13, 2019 12:22 PM (CwACU)

102 Am I the only one who sees the term "academic" and immediately thinks "idiot"?
Posted by: Miklos, official degree holder 'n stuff at April 13, 2019 12:07 PM (zCyNd)

Well, I tend to substitute "full of shit" for "academic".

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 13, 2019 12:23 PM (3sjI6)

103 RKae- it's been said some people did something to Jesus occasionally

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 12:23 PM (BbGew)

104 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at April 13, 2019 12:23 PM (q0A6z)

105 58 Dallas DA Legalizes Crime For The Poor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SupnqkJSWVg
Posted by: Propane and Propane Accessories at April 13, 2019 11:54 AM (NQfqB)
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Yeah, free ticket for "petty" thieves across the board.

But note that it especially legalizes crime AGAINST the poor.
You want to steal your neighbor's $500 clunker, that's fine ---- but don't touch my Mercedes!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 13, 2019 12:24 PM (Rxduq)

106
They wuz non-linear kangz n shit.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 13, 2019 12:24 PM (t5m5e)

107 they've been brainwashed into thinking that leaving even a jacket or a book or a coin in sight that in itself would warrant a miscreant to break into their private property!!!!

Now suggest that wandering around immodestly warrants a rape... see the response there.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 13, 2019 12:24 PM (lD3vL)

108 RKae- it's been said some people did something to Jesus occasionally
Posted by: Skip

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Yes, there was indeed "a human-caused disaster" done to him.

Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:25 PM (vP0jg)

109 they've been brainwashed into thinking that leaving even a jacket or a book or a coin in sight that in itself would warrant a miscreant to break into their private property!!!!

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Had the window of my car shattered so that someone could steal an old sweatshirt.

I'm told "Don't leave valuables in sight."

Um... my car is a valuable. Any idea how I can turn it invisible?

(Cue Captain Kirk: "Everyone remember where we parked.")

Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:27 PM (vP0jg)

110 The "debt" including all the promises is $200T for US ... who wins in the foreclosure?
Posted by: illiniwek at April 13, 2019 12:13 PM (Cus5s)

That's when time stops.

Posted by: Sooner at April 13, 2019 12:28 PM (Fs5vw)

111 I am drinking coffee from a cup made in Sweden not a China cup

Posted by: Yo! at April 13, 2019 12:28 PM (q0A6z)

112 On his deathbed, Newton stated that of all his accomplishments, he was proudest that he died a virgin.

A pal was sitting there and just had to ask, "What colour?"
Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 13, 2019 11:41 AM (8ZmvG)

My ex was saying he had a mirror over his toilet cause then he could see his dick. I said he should diet. He asked what color.

Posted by: Chillin the most at April 13, 2019 12:29 PM (lonOK)

113
kindltot, those are insightful takes on the origins of a couple of movements.

I concur. I can't help but notice something that's missing amongst all those economic theories: any discussion of how wealth is created. It seems that most of those money ideas you mentioned are done well after it's already made, and observing the bubbles they create, they're short-term and only of benefit to those with the money to shuffle around in that manner. They're not sustainable for any long-ish period of time.
We once had slow but steady and predictable economic growth, with housing prices being a good example. When the housing bubble started to happen, it looked highly suspicious compared to the decades of slow-but-steady increases that could be reliably depended on, especially by young families. I didn't figure something like that would last, and sure enough, it didn't. Those debt-based theories are to blame, IMO.

Slow and steady is good, even thought it's not sexy. We need to get back to that stability, especially in econ skools. Wealth and the creation thereof is the thing we should want.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 12:29 PM (HaL55)

114 I am drinking coffee from a cup made in Sweden not a China cup
Posted by: Yo!

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If you're not in Buffalo, can you still eat Buffalo wings?

Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:29 PM (vP0jg)

115 Sanity Clause. In one of my classes so many years ago a speaker said that when they built the first GPS satellites the AF was not convinced they needed to factor in for relativistic effects so they put it in only as a switch they could turn on if they needed to. Sure enough they did have to use the switch.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 13, 2019 12:29 PM (pAkRe)

116 The wife said my stomach was making whale noises



Is that fair?

Posted by: Yo! at April 13, 2019 12:30 PM (q0A6z)

117 ) The "debt" including all the promises is $200T for US ... who wins in the foreclosure?

I would say, those who have the most guns, but in view of how people without guns react to people having stuff, everything will just end up in flames.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 13, 2019 12:30 PM (lD3vL)

118 Yo - If your not blowing water vapor out of the top of your head - no

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 12:32 PM (BbGew)

119 "Criminal as victim of society" = straight-up Marxist assertion

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 12:32 PM (YqDXo)

120 Bullits

Guns are just sticks without them

Posted by: Yo! at April 13, 2019 12:32 PM (q0A6z)

121 Sounds like our feminist "educator" is arguing for longer prison sentences for those who don't perceive time linearly.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 12:33 PM (YqDXo)

122 Apparently TIA is a real thing for those who have been in Africa

Posted by: Yo! at April 13, 2019 12:34 PM (q0A6z)

123 @97 I've got news for you. Ramon Novarro wins that chariot race.

Before there were feature films, Ben-Hur was on national tour, with a train full of special effects equipment for the live theatrical show. They had teams of live horses on stage, on treadmills. One can only imagine what a slip-up might have been like, or what the stage hands' chores came up to. Lew Wallace "did OK" on the book sales, but the traveling play made him rich.


Can't say enough about the the guy who wrote that book. Boy general, territorial governor of New Mexico, (then later) ambassador to the Ottomans. I have been to his study in Crawfordsville. Believe me when I say that this was a man who knew something about racing horses with little trailers on behind them. Also? His aunt's husband invented the machine gun.

If you can find VDH's little treatise on him, he analyzes Wallace's motive for writing the story with the particular spin it had.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 13, 2019 12:36 PM (8ZmvG)

124 Time is a lubricant for pain, bitches! And then you die. Happy Saturday!

I ain't doin' the dishes then.

Posted by: JT at April 13, 2019 12:36 PM (4Qe0G)

125 "Criminal as victim of society" = straight-up Marxist assertion


Being impoverished might be an excuse for stealing food.

It's not an excuse for stealing a pair of $300 sneakers.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 13, 2019 12:36 PM (0OWcv)

126
You are at odds with the physical properties of this universe, you cannot accept reality, you are insane.

^^^That^^^


That right there. It is the crux of the biscuit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 12:36 PM (HaL55)

127 "Anybody seen the video where she laughs at someone for being more concerned about al Queda than about the US Army?" kt

Lara Logan has gotten attention lately, with some bodacious commentary about the bias in the MSM. She has noted that most things are shades of gray, and the absolutism (OrangeManBad) has eliminated sound commentary.


imo, there are indeed shades of gray to the Omar statement. AQ is a problem because of the various BigPowers that enable/fund them, as a proxy for the other battles. Obama/Hillary (apparently) funded them and that is tied to the Benghazi affair (and Iran). Erdogan has moved toward caliphate status ... and now we hope the Saudi/Israel/Egypt coalition unite to fight ??? Iran/Syria (proxies for Russia?)

But we really do need to decide which side we (Americans) are on ... the West has values that make us America, and Omar (icon for the current left) appears to not share those values, not in the least. Democrats/MSM and open borders advocates are TheEnemy.


We hope the military (and some "white hats"?) is still on our side (we the people) ... while DeepState/BigMoney (Soros the icon for that) is clearly our enemy. This is the battle of our time, prosecution of the Mueller Coup necessary ... AQ is a bit player for the wrong side. imo

Posted by: illiniwek at April 13, 2019 12:36 PM (Cus5s)

128 I am drinking coffee from a cup made in Sweden not a China cup
Posted by: Yo! at April 13, 2019 12:28 PM (q0A6z)


Ikea doesn't "make" anything.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 13, 2019 12:37 PM (TN7xY)

129 Slow and steady is good, even thought it's not sexy. We need to get back to that stability, especially in econ skools. Wealth and the creation thereof is the thing we should want.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 12:29 PM (HaL55)


The bad news: the same policies that led to the housing bubble are being implemented again today.

It's cargo cult territory. If you give the underclass the trappings of the middle class, they'll become middle class. By this logic, if I buy a Yankees jersey, I'll join the Yankees. It disregards the obvious truth: that middle class trappings result from middle class values; giving the underclass middle class trappings while they retain underclass values is going to result in underclass members temporarily having middle class trappings. Briefly.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 12:37 PM (YqDXo)

130 Sometimes I post links to some webwork of mine, like,

http://bit.ly/mw-gen-eng-brkthru

Later, I look to see if any hits came from AoSHQ.

Usually there's none, and I'm disappointed, a little.

Sometimes I see one or even more folks clicked through from here, and I feel I should apologize, somewhat.

I don't have the proper personality for a self-aggrandizing arteest.

OTOH, I can no longer say that the PayPal buttons on my site are virgin. Thanks to contributions last month, averaged over 23 years online, I've made (whips out calculator) over 20¢ per year!

(Starts shopping for DeLorean SUV.)

Posted by: mindful webworker's creative dilemmae are surreal at April 13, 2019 12:37 PM (V0CWC)

131 Many years ago, I lived on Capital Hill in Denver which was a high crime area. People (to use the term broadly) were always stealing anything they could get their hands on including my trash cans. I took to chaining my cans to the fence but had to unchain them for trash day and they'd steal them then. I could have cheerfully eviscerated whoever stole my cans and strangled xim/xer with xis/xers own intestines. And now the Houston DA won't prosecute such crimes any more so I guess were back to intestinal strangling.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 12:38 PM (+y/Ru)

132 Being impoverished might be an excuse for stealing food.

It's not an excuse for stealing a pair of $300 sneakers.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 13, 2019 12:36 PM (0OWcv)


Of course. The very most trenchant riposte is the poverty does not excuse rape. Which exhibits the exact same demographic trend as other crime. QED.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 12:39 PM (YqDXo)

133 102 Am I the only one who sees the term "academic" and immediately thinks "idiot"?
Posted by: Miklos, official degree holder 'n stuff at April 13, 2019 12:07 PM (zCyNd)

Well, I tend to substitute "full of shit" for "academic".
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 13, 2019 12:23 PM (3sjI6)
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Having worked in academia for decades, I would say that "full of shit" is far more accurate than "idiot."

The vast majority of academics have average IQs. A significant minority have better. They may be stupid, in the Orwellian sense of being in an ideological stupor, but they are not, strictly speaking, idiots.

Now, they may often APPEAR to be so. After all, when your mind really is stuffed full of shit, it can't receive outside signals --- things like simple logic and data.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 13, 2019 12:39 PM (Rxduq)

134
Being impoverished might be an excuse for stealing food.

It's not an excuse for stealing a pair of $300 sneakers.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 13, 2019 12:36 PM (0OWcv)


A good pair of running shoes is vital when you're stealing food.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 13, 2019 12:40 PM (TAmPV)

135 Stealing is a lifestyle

Posted by: VMs phone at April 13, 2019 12:41 PM (EGSGm)

136
Any "ism" that denies reality is inevitably lethal to someone.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 13, 2019 12:42 PM (KATBx)

137 A good pair of running shoes is vital when you're stealing food.

Not any more. Many companies do not permit their employees to intervene.

Go grab as much meat from the butcher shop and walk out the door. They may yell at you, but the lawyers won't permit them to take chase.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at April 13, 2019 12:42 PM (lD3vL)

138 We once had slow but steady and predictable economic
growth, with housing prices being a good example. When the housing
bubble started to happen, it looked highly suspicious compared to the
decades of slow-but-steady increases that could be reliably depended on,
especially by young families. I didn't figure something like that would
last, and sure enough, it didn't. Those debt-based theories are to
blame, IMO.

Slow and steady is good, even thought it's not sexy.
We need to get back to that stability, especially in econ skools. Wealth
and the creation thereof is the thing we should want.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 12:29 PM (HaL55)


One day you will wake up and realize that you are an Austrian. Trust me, you may resist at the beginning, but it is worth it.


(It is a gateway philosophy, though. Psst, hey kid, wanna read some Lysander Spooner to go with that Mises?)

Posted by: Kindltot at April 13, 2019 12:43 PM (TN7xY)

139 If you are going to steal food because you are hungry, it would be better to steal prime cuts of beef than jjnk food.
Better return on your intheftment.

Posted by: VMs phone at April 13, 2019 12:44 PM (EGSGm)

140 126
You are at odds with the physical properties of this universe, you cannot accept reality, you are insane.

^^^That^^^


That right there. It is the crux of the biscuit.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 12:36 PM (HaL55)


You might want to include the foundational basics of human nature.

Posted by: Sooner at April 13, 2019 12:44 PM (Fs5vw)

141 115 ....Sanity Clause.....
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 13, 2019 12:29 PM (pAkRe)
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Hi there, fella!

Posted by: Jolly Old St. Nicholas at April 13, 2019 12:45 PM (Rxduq)

142 A good pair of running shoes is vital when you're stealing food.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 13, 2019 12:40 PM (TAmPV)

Just don't wear Nike's. You could do some damage when they blow out.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 13, 2019 12:45 PM (3sjI6)

143 96 82 as Ben Hur is one of my favorites that would be a treat, especially to see the chariot race
Posted by: Skip

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I love how there's that bold music all throughout the movie, except for the chariot race. The music drops out and it's just 10 minutes of horse hooves beating in the dirt.
Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:19 PM (vP0jg)


IIRC, at least by rumor, a guy was killed in the chariot race. One of the guards standing in the center of the arena gets hit by a chariot, knocked back into the wall behind him, and bounces out onto the course where a subsequent chariot ran over him.

That may be why they dropped out the music.

It happens at 0:43 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frE9rXnaHpE

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 12:46 PM (YqDXo)

144 Hey
My coffee cup is pre IKEA !

Old school Swede

Posted by: Yo! at April 13, 2019 12:46 PM (q0A6z)

145
Not any more. Many companies do not permit their employees to intervene.


Damn kids have it so easy now days.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 13, 2019 12:48 PM (TAmPV)

146 Whittled out of soapstone, Yo!

I have an Ikea moka style coffee maker made out of Stainless. Built, I expect, by Bialetti. It is very good, useful, and even better I bought it at a thrift shop.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 13, 2019 12:48 PM (TN7xY)

147 IIRC, at least by rumor, a guy was killed in the chariot race. One of the guards standing in the center of the arena gets hit by a chariot, knocked back into the wall behind him, and bounces out onto the course where a subsequent chariot ran over him.

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Nope. Urban legend.

Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:48 PM (vP0jg)

148
(It is a gateway philosophy, though. Psst, hey kid, wanna read some Lysander Spooner to go with that Mises?)

"Yeah man, and take a hit of some of this shit before you do, man. It'll all become clear..."

"Confusion of confusion. All is confusion."

- somewhere in the Bible, by Solomon, I think. If everything isn't backwards, whatever's left is confusion.

OK, gotta go do stuff. Y'all try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 12:49 PM (HaL55)

149 Nope. Urban legend.
Posted by: RKae at April 13, 2019 12:48 PM (vP0jg)


Really? It looks awfully real, and not like a stunt.

There's a later guy who ends up getting run over, but that's clearly a dummy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 12:50 PM (YqDXo)

150 Outside time, be back

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 12:51 PM (BbGew)

151 Anyone here ever see light flashes in the corner of their eyes when they look back and forth with their eyes closed, or in the dark?

I tend toward hypochondria the "search" internet is not very helpful. I recently had a full eye exam before this started and they said everything looked good inside, although my pressure was a little elevated.

Posted by: Jacque at April 13, 2019 12:52 PM (B27Wh)

152 Stealing is a lifestyle
Posted by: VMs phone at April 13, 2019 12:41 PM (EGSGm)


Did someone steal votermom's phone?

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at April 13, 2019 12:53 PM (t+qrx)

153 Backwards Boy, Spooner is all about property rights and contracts above government.

I admit, once Spooner got older, he became more radical but in a more absolute belief in property rights, and believed less that a government could be controlled in any ways.



Posted by: Kindltot at April 13, 2019 12:54 PM (TN7xY)

154 Florida Waffle House victim Craig Brewer's sister asks for prayers--for suspect's family
...
"I don't hold any grudges against him. I'm not angry with him," she told ABC News. "People have been sending their prayers and condolences to our family. So I asked them to pray for his [Hick's] family as well. His family has lost him because I'm sure he's going to be in prison for a while.


What the actual fuck.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at April 13, 2019 12:55 PM (DTX3h)

155 IIRC, at least by rumor, a guy was killed in the chariot race. One of the guards standing in the center of the arena gets hit by a chariot, knocked back into the wall behind him, and bounces out onto the course where a subsequent chariot ran over him.

That may be why they dropped out the music.

It happens at 0:43 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frE9rXnaHpE

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Not very realistic. I mean, Charlton Heston is turning left.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 12:56 PM (+y/Ru)

156 Garden thread is up!

Posted by: kallisto at April 13, 2019 12:57 PM (DJFLF)

157 The gardening thread is up for those who are interested. Bluebells, Washington D.C., etc.


Or you can stick around here.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at April 13, 2019 12:58 PM (BVQ+1)

158 Hello, Dali! Well, hello, Dali! It's so nice to have you back where you belong!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2019 12:59 PM (Dh1wo)

159 Yeah man, and take a hit of some of this shit before you do, man. It'll all become clear..."

"Confusion of confusion. All is confusion."

- somewhere in the Bible, by Solomon, I think. If everything isn't backwards, whatever's left is confusion.

OK, gotta go do stuff. Y'all try to behave.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 12:49 PM (HaL55)


When mankind looks to themselves instead of God for guidance, confusion is the result. Then chaos and death (a whole fucking lot of death).

Posted by: Sooner at April 13, 2019 12:59 PM (Fs5vw)

160 You can't fool me, boss! There ain't no Sanity Clause!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2019 01:02 PM (Dh1wo)

161
Backwards Boy, Spooner is all about property rights and contracts above government.

I
admit, once Spooner got older, he became more radical but in a more
absolute belief in property rights, and believed less that a government
could be controlled in any ways.


I've never read him and didn't mean to disparage any solid, proven economic practices (as opposed to what I consider "unicorn dust" that passes for today's economic edumacation.)

The first thing my Econ 101 said to the class was, "If you were to line up all the world's economists end-to-end, they wouldn't reach a conclusion." He wasn't wrong. What they're teaching kids about economics in skools today (if they even do that anymore) is so far removed from what I was taught in kollidge that I don't even recognize it. My reaction to 99% of it is, "What? Are you nuts? That's so fucked up, it's not even wrong."
Like this imbecilic talk about "reparations." Are they nuts? Because nobody in their right mind would suggest something that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Not too long ago, anybody who said something like that would get laughed out of the bar and stuck with everybody's tab for being an idiot.

OK, now I gotta run. Y'all behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 13, 2019 01:04 PM (HaL55)

162 "Now, they may often APPEAR to be so. After all,
when your mind really is stuffed full of shit, it can't receive outside
signals --- things like simple logic and data"Posted by: Margarita DeVille

the "academics" that develop the quant equations that run the trillion dollar hedge funds ... those are some very smart guys, for sure. Steve Bannon has some interesting commentary on globalism versus nationalism, as it applies to our markets. But all those trillions being run via shadow quadrillion dollar, unregulated derivative markets ... is "problematic".


imo we have to decide who we are as an American People. That was largely founded by WASPy (intellectual) founders, but they carved out civic concepts separate from Christianity itself. "A More Perfect Union" is not an economic system. A fair market is an outcome of a just government, but now the oligarchs (CFR) determine policy (to control the markets).


Markets of today, and a (contrived) monetary system. The efficiencies of global trading could be for the good, and certainly funding new ideas and allowing "money" for exchange purposes greases a lot of skids, but lending on leverage consolidates power to the leveraged "player" (who then can go bankrupt, or get bailouts ... not even a debtors' prison, no real "skin" in the game).


Money Creation has to be matched with the ability to prosecute the cheats, and that is where we lost control (to the something for nothing lies). The fed reserve laws of 2013 put outsiders in control perhaps ... but always evil tends to infiltrate ... eternal vigilance required. The "academics" arguing for communism are just propagandists for the hedge funds and global banks. imo

Posted by: illiniwek at April 13, 2019 01:12 PM (Cus5s)

163 that would be 1913 for the fed reserve, though 2013 had its bad laws as well

Posted by: illiniwek at April 13, 2019 01:14 PM (Cus5s)

164 Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
DEVELOPING: Did Strzok have FBI informant Stef Halper wear a wire?

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 13, 2019 01:14 PM (BqBId)

165 Trouble on the home front:

Group Planning NY Rally Urging Schumer To Get Ilhan Omar Off Foreign Affairs Committee

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 01:17 PM (+y/Ru)

166 imo, there are indeed shades of gray to the Omar statement. Posted by: Illiniwek

AQ, aside, she said: "CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties."

Omar is not just morally wrong, but as Don Surber caught, she is even factually wrong also.

CAIR was not founded after 9/11. It was founded by Hamas groupies after the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. Some of them were involved with the bombing and all of them have said their goal is to impose Sharia Law on second-class Americans.

Omar herself was allowed to come here, gain citizenship, milk the welfare system, commit immigration fraud by marrying her brother and then serve in Congress. It doesn't sound like she was oppressed to me.

But she's right about one thing:

There was indeed spying on the community and massive governmental violations of the law so that "all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties."

That community was Donald Trump, his campaign, his administration and the Americans who elected him.

You don't CAIR, lady--but we do.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 13, 2019 01:18 PM (Ndje9)

167 165 Trouble on the home front:

Group Planning NY Rally Urging Schumer To Get Ilhan Omar Off Foreign Affairs Committee
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 01:17 PM (+y/Ru)


How can Schumer influence the composition of a House committee?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 01:23 PM (YqDXo)

168 How can Schumer influence the composition of a House committee?

He can mention it to Nanzi when he's trimming her toenails.

With his teeth.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 13, 2019 01:25 PM (Ndje9)

169 That Ben Hur chariot race is as thrilling as it was when I was a kid.

I would love to see Ben Hur on the big screen.

We are going to see Shazam tomorrow. It's going to be so hard to pass up the popcorn. Guess I'll have to sneak in some chili lime pork rinds.

Posted by: Gem at April 13, 2019 01:25 PM (XoAz8)

170 154 Florida Waffle House victim Craig Brewer's sister asks for prayers--for suspect's family
...
"I don't hold any grudges against him. I'm not angry with him," she told ABC News. "People have been sending their prayers and condolences to our family. So I asked them to pray for his [Hick's] family as well. His family has lost him because I'm sure he's going to be in prison for a while.

What the actual fuck.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at April 13, 2019 12:55 PM (DTX3h)
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I don't have a problem with prayers for the murderer's family. (After prayers for the victim's.)
I wouldn't even mind prayers for the perp's true contrition and repentance.

But the "I'm-not-angry-with-him" stuff is indeed WTF material.

There's something wrong with quick "forgiveness." It's morally imbecilic and, IMO, substitutes cheap sentiment for the real thing, which is .... hard.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 13, 2019 01:29 PM (Rxduq)

171 Today is Record Store Day, for the audiophiles in the house.

Posted by: kallisto at April 13, 2019 01:30 PM (DJFLF)

172 Sperry's a low-profile but often good investigative reporter who comes up with interesting nuggets, but I'm not sure what Halper wearing a wire adds to the picture. Nice to know.


To me the real news in all this, apart from the stunning criminality and arrogance, is the sub-mediocrity of those involved. These are characters, and actions, from a bad, implausible bit of fiction. Clumsy, pathetic. And I'm not talking about the loathsome senior figures, the big names, whose rise had already alarmed many (things were worse than even the Clinton years) - Brennan, Clapper, et al. The career types. The Strzoks, that level.


The people in C-I were never super-men, but even a little experience with them in the good ol days of the Cold War leaves one astonished at the clownish quality of these characters. Again, leaving aside the incredible arrogance and departure from core values.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 13, 2019 01:31 PM (QDnY+)

173 "And the very concept of time is racially biased. "White people own time"."

They're not trying to make some profound-sounding statement about the nature of time, re: physics and cosmology; they're just making excuses for cultures whose languages don't have concepts for certain time-related things and any number of other things that follow from that.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at April 13, 2019 01:36 PM (67XdO)

174 "time 'doesn't feel linear' for black people - all of them, presumably -
because, she says, they live with 'the residue of past historical
trauma.' "--Feminist charlatan

Counterexample:
"The past is never dead. It's not even past."--Southern white man William Faulkner

Posted by: pst314 at April 13, 2019 01:39 PM (iRbDn)

175 Not very realistic. I mean, Charlton Heston is turning left.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 13, 2019 12:56 PM (+y/Ru)

Proto-NASCAR!

Posted by: Fox2! at April 13, 2019 01:51 PM (rpYJm)

176 Is. Corey Booker's life-Long friend "T-Bone" in the audience while he declares for the Democrat nomination?

Posted by: Fox2! at April 13, 2019 01:53 PM (rpYJm)

177 172: yep. Assclowns from the top down.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 13, 2019 01:58 PM (89T5c)

178 .
Nasty Omar is serving her purpose in House to get money/influence into Somalia. For Nasty Omar, one of her brothers -- whether in-law or however it works -- is now an advisor to whatever tinpot dictator is playing games there. Her family (however defined) were political refugees and now they have their $$$/influence to get back to power.

Too bad the whole crew is not going back physically.

The skinny little dollie can laugh . . .

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2019 02:03 PM (MIKMs)

179 You'd think with all these complaints about white culture being incompatible with black people that they'd be arguing for segregation. Instead, the culture is the problem and must be destroyed, which they would never EVER say about black culture.


Can we all just admit that academia has been running a massive scam, pretending to be one thing when we ALL know that their intent is something else entirely?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 13, 2019 02:04 PM (oVJmc)

180
And the very concept of time is racially biased. "White people own time"

Time Lords are whitey

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 13, 2019 02:08 PM (aKsyK)

181 And the very concept of time is racially biased.

As is the concept of writing.

Stop appropriating our culture.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 02:09 PM (YqDXo)

182 Time Lords are whitey


Timey-wimey whities.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 13, 2019 02:10 PM (oVJmc)

183

Uber posted a $3 billion operating loss last year but many expected the company to at some point become profitable. But within the company's own prospectus, Uber states: "We expect our operating expenses to increase significantly in the foreseeable future, and we may not achieve profitability."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 13, 2019 02:10 PM (aKsyK)

184 Accurate time keeping is a relatively new development in human history.
Time zones in the USA became necessary only about 150 years ago, iirc, because of the railroads.

Posted by: navybrat, stays off BART trains at April 13, 2019 02:10 PM (w7KSn)

185 "Omar is not just morally wrong, but as Don Surber caught, she is even factually wrong also" GipperLives

yes, she is a dummie, an icon for the current left. But our current great battle is against our Domestic Enemy that just ran a coup against a duly elected president, and the participants are so far moving on to even higher paying jobs ... due to their ability to get even Crooked Hillary off for crimes of the century.


Our military is indeed Omar's biggest enemy (she's an enemy of WeThePeople). Because we hope some of our military and our field agent type FBI are willing to take down globalist DeepState ... the BigEnemy. But so far Comey/Brennan walk free.


and yeah, goofy Comey, who had the power to elevate him, and unaccomplished commie supporter Brennan, to such power? Whoever did that ... They are the guys we need to prosecute. (and Comey in college also loved him some communism ... someone noted that and put him on their team way back when)

Posted by: illiniwek at April 13, 2019 02:12 PM (Cus5s)

186 184 Accurate time keeping is a relatively new development in human history. Time zones in the USA became necessary only about 150 years ago, iirc, because of the railroads.
Posted by: navybrat, stays off BART trains at April 13, 2019 02:10 PM (w7KSn)


True.

Horology - no, not that, the study of the measurement of time - IS relatively recent, and owes much to the necessity of measuring longitude at sea. Latitude is easy; longitude, not so much. Measuring time accurately (the difference between noon at your location and noon at Greenwich, England) to determine your longitude was a vexing problem that took great ingenuity to solve.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 02:17 PM (YqDXo)

187 From Insty, re putting illegal aliens in sanctuary cities:

It's more than a masterstroke of trolling by Trump, it's actually a lesson in "be careful what you ask for."

It is a masterstroke, but it's not what the liberals asked for. They know perfectly well that illegal aliens are a blight on the nation, but pretend that they're not. This forces them either to admit to their prevarication, or to be overrun by illiterate Third World peasants, some of whom are criminally inclined.

It's a beautiful thing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 02:21 PM (YqDXo)

188 Posted by: rhomboid at April 13, 2019 01:31 PM (QDnY+)
****
Means the FBI/DOJ had all kinds of exculpatory evidence on those recordings

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 13, 2019 02:21 PM (BqBId)

189 Yeah--Diana West wrote how all the central figures were college Commies--including Comey and Steele. Of course Obama and Clinton. Ohr taught Stalin Apologetics even into this century. Even Lynch and Mueller were disciples of student radical Holder.

As you say it the incompetence is notable and not just at the top. Not to compare to the Holocaust, but "banality of evil" comes to mind; the unexceptional workaday stupidity coupled with moral bankruptcy and arrogance. I suppose they go together.

All this speaks to the lack of character in Obama and Clinton. But it also means the systemic checks and balances are not up to the powers of the Surveillance State.


Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 13, 2019 02:27 PM (Ndje9)

190 Figuring out high noon where you are is easy.

Keeping track of high noon in Greenwich if hard.
Impossible if all the clocks you have don't like being moved around. That is, they don't handle change in acceleration with respect to time (jerk) well.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 13, 2019 02:29 PM (1g7ch)

191 Deep State, OK. But given the obviously false (and possibly "criminally liably false") basis of the "investigation" and its various activities to start with, there always would have been credible testimony from the targets, that together with the other evidence would have nailed the perps. IF they can be nailed, criminally - my "fear" (question? concern?) is that much of the worst misbehavior here will fall in the non-criminal abuse of power category.


It's all good, though.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 13, 2019 02:32 PM (QDnY+)

192 Posted by: rhomboid at April 13, 2019 02:32 PM (QDnY+)
*******
Paul Sperry's source/s thought it was important enough to "Leak" it to him

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 13, 2019 02:33 PM (BqBId)

193 It is a masterstroke, but it's not what the liberals asked for. They know perfectly well that illegal aliens are a blight on the nation, but pretend that they're not. This forces them either to admit to their prevarication, or to be overrun by illiterate Third World peasants, some of whom are criminally inclined.

It's a beautiful thing.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2019 02:21 PM (YqDXo)

Heard some blurbs from progtards and big city mayors (but I repeat myself) - this proves that Trump is a lawless hateful bigot, because illegal aliens are awesome, just don't send them here...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 13, 2019 02:33 PM (1g7ch)

194 Keeping track of high noon in Greenwich if hard.
Impossible if all the clocks you have don't like being moved around. That is, they don't handle change in acceleration with respect to time (jerk) well.



Right. Pendulum clocks were pretty accurate on land but not so much on boats that rock back and forth. The chronometer had a spring loaded mechanism like a modern watch and would keep going no matter what the waves did.

So the chronometer enabled navigation. On the other hand, one guy with one chronometer could map noon at all of the lattitudes and longitudes of the seas and then publish tables. So we only needed the first one. (And a busy note taker).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 13, 2019 02:36 PM (fuK7c)

195 What they're teaching kids about economics in skools today (if they even do that anymore) is so far removed from what I was taught in kollidge that I don't even recognize it. My reaction to 99% of it is, "What? Are you nuts? That's so fucked up, it's not even wrong."

When I took Econ in college in 1980, the lesson that you can't have inflation and unemployment at the same time was such a joke during the end of the Carter Years that I discarded the subject as being of little interest.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 13, 2019 02:42 PM (G8dTy)

196 I had to breakdown and use the snowblower yesterday. I thought I was done with winter until old man winter said, yea, no you're not, eff you!

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 13, 2019 02:44 PM (xR1UF)

197 Just figured out have free HBO/ Cinemax, I see Dunkirk is on again as well as Blade Runner 2049 both at times unlikely to be to see.

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 02:44 PM (BbGew)

198 Among the golfists there are a bunch of guys at -7, a bunch more at -6, and when you get 20 guys down (I didn't scroll to the next page) you're still at -5.

That's a boatload of guys all bunched up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 13, 2019 02:45 PM (fuK7c)

199 All of you with new snow, just think that by December the global warmers will tell you it's the 3rd or 4th hottest year ever.

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 02:48 PM (BbGew)

200 Speaking of reporters, a BBC reporter assigned in DC gave an interview to his former local paper, the Shropshire Star. He laid out all the claims of the Dossier, calling it Trump's Watergate.

He did this in March, 2015.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 13, 2019 02:52 PM (Ndje9)

201 You'd think with all these complaints about white culture being incompatible with black people that they'd be arguing for segregation. Instead, the culture is the problem and must be destroyed, which they would never EVER say about black culture.


Can we all just admit that academia has been running a massive scam, pretending to be one thing when we ALL know that their intent is something else entirely?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 13, 2019 02:04 PM (oVJmc)

180


The other day I watched a little of TMZ and heard them talking about the black culture. I was fascinated because I wanted to know what black culture consists of. Well, it turns out, according to the blacks on TMZ black culture is rap and rappers.

Posted by: Chillin the most at April 13, 2019 02:52 PM (lonOK)

202 Been working around a white young plumber who is appropriating black culture with his choice of music

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 02:58 PM (BbGew)

203 All of you with new snow, just think that by December the global warmers will tell you it's the 3rd or 4th hottest year ever.

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 02:48 PM


What sucks the most is that I love winter actually I still do quite a bit of snowshoeing, camping even, snowmobiling etc. But at some point you're just done with it. This last batch was bad because it had been 64 a few days before and this snow had a tan tinge to it! I don't think I've seen anything like it. Apparently it was from the dust in Texas that the vortex sucked up. So dirty snow, yea, eff that!

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 13, 2019 03:05 PM (xR1UF)

204 babalublog.com/2019/04/13/tweet of the day shows stark images of Venezuelan faces before and after socialism
http://tinyurl.com/y3al2436

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 03:15 PM (BbGew)

205 Ben Hur> The Ten Commandments

Posted by: Barbara Carrera at April 13, 2019 03:16 PM (NFEMn)

206 Speaking of reporters, a BBC reporter assigned in DC gave an interview to his former local paper, the Shropshire Star. He laid out all the claims of the Dossier, calling it Trump's Watergate.

He did this in March, 2015.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 13, 2019 02:52 PM (Ndje9)

?

Posted by: JoeF. at April 13, 2019 03:17 PM (NFEMn)

207 Are those Taters pocket watches or his dates from last weekend.....................it's all a fantasy to him....

CNN DALI NEWS REPORTER..............!!!!

Posted by: saf at April 13, 2019 03:35 PM (5IHGB)

208 My guess is that BBC reporter bought the dossier hook, line, and sinker

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 03:39 PM (BbGew)

209 My guess is that BBC reporter bought the dossier hook, line, and sinker
Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 03:39 PM (BbGe)

Yes, but in March '15? Was Trump even running?

Posted by: JoeF. at April 13, 2019 04:01 PM (NFEMn)

210 coldfury.com/what the hell are they teaching these kids nowadays
http://tinyurl.com/yxe2j8hl
Supposedly Christian school Taylor University invites VP Pence for commencement and the students erupt in Leftism and throw a snit fit.

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 04:03 PM (BbGew)

211 All of you with new snow, just think that by December the global warmers will tell you it's the 3rd or 4th hottest year ever.

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 02:48 PM
****
& what they don't tell you, is almost all the warming is in the Arctic & Antarctic regions H/T Joe Bastardi

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 13, 2019 04:22 PM (BqBId)

212 when Ben Hur came out, everyone went to the Fox Theater in Philadelphia. All the movie places in South Jersey were the standard neighborhood theaters with regular sized screens. But the Fox was a huge theater with a huge screen. It only played those stupendous epics made in the '50s and '60s. It was not unusual for one of those epics to be shown for more than a year. I think The Sound of Music sat there for nearly two years, IIRC.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at April 13, 2019 04:22 PM (ebZss)

213 "When I took Econ in college in 1980" oldcat

I'm a few years older ... in class I asked my Econ 101 "teacher" ... "aren't you teaching us Marxism", and he said yes. One other student voiced "solidarity" with me ... but that changed nothing ... have to occupy the student union and burn things I guess.

I was an econ illiterate, not sure how I even knew to ask that, maybe it was cub scout merit badge, along with building a bird house, idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 13, 2019 04:24 PM (Cus5s)

214 209 June 16, 2015 at Trump Tower NYC, so someone has some date wrong

Posted by: Skip at April 13, 2019 04:27 PM (BbGew)

215 June 16, 2015 at Trump Tower NYC, so someone has some date wrong Posted by: Skip

To clarify, the BBC reporter said in an Inuguration-time interview, he had been told of all the Dossier claims by Eastern European contacts back in March 2015.

Trump announced in June. But he would have discussed it on the phone earlier. IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 13, 2019 05:13 PM (Ndje9)

216 illiniwek at April 13, 2019 12:36 PM
I agree that al Queda may be a bit player in terms of their physical presence at this time. But I think their influence on Muslims worldwide has been a big problem. We see formerly "moderate" Islamic states imposing more forms of Sharia and so forth. Western countries caving to hard-line demands.

The new methods of totally decentralized warfare through terrorism that they popularized and pushed have also been a challenge.

From what I hear, bin Laden was quite compelling to an internet audience of young disillusioned Muslim men seeking meaning in life.

Posted by: KT at April 13, 2019 07:38 PM (BVQ+1)

217 In re: the Jefferson Memorial - the cherry trees were a gift from the Japanese Emperor. I would imagine that, in 1943, taking down a few for the Memorial was fine with most people.

Posted by: Surellin at April 16, 2019 09:39 AM (gt1lX)

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