Rep. Devin Nunes Suing Twitter and Accounts He Claims Are Defamatory for a Total of $250 Million

I don't know if his suit against Twitter will go anywhere, as Twitter has the immunity granted to a "platform" when it obviously is actually a publisher scarcely different from the New York Times' staff choosing what letters to the editor to publish.

And Congress will not repeal that -- the Democrats are pro-censorship of conservatives and the Republicans are bribed by the industry to be cool with censorship of conservatives.

I don't know about the lawsuits against the individuals. Given how hard it is for a public figure to win on a defamation claim, they'll probably be fine too.

California GOP Rep. Devin Nunes filed a major lawsuit seeking $250 million in compensatory damages and $350,000 in punitive damages against Twitter and a handful of its users on Monday, accusing the social media site of "shadow-banning conservatives" including himself to influence the 2018 elections, systematically censoring opposing viewpoints and totally "ignoring" lawful complaints of repeated abusive behavior.
In a complaint filed in Virginia state court on Monday, obtained by Fox News, Nunes said Twitter was guilty of "knowingly hosting and monetizing content that is clearly abusive, hateful and defamatory -- providing both a voice and financial incentive to the defamers -- thereby facilitating defamation on its platform."

Although federal law ordinarily exempts services like Twitter from defamation liability, Nunes' suit said the platform has taken such an active role in curating and banning content that it should face liability like any other organization that defames.

I like the argument, but unlike David French and other liberals, I don't allow my liking of an argument to influence my evaluation of its strength. The Communication Decency Act gives publishers like Twitter the designation of "platform" and says they can't be held liable for a third party's defamations, and that's pretty much the end of that discussion.

Congress could modify that at some point but they won't; Democrats want to restrict conservatives' free speech, and too many Republicans are frankly on the take. And also frequently consider conservatives' free speech to be a bother they would rather not suffer themselves.

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In large part because of Twitter's actions, Nunes "endured an orchestrated defamation campaign of stunning breadth and scope, one that no human being should ever have to bear and suffer in their whole life" in the past year, according to the complaint.
The complaint also named specific Twitter accounts that spread allegedly defamatory material about Nunes. One defendant, identified as "Liz" Mair, purportedly published tweets that "implied that Nunes colluded with prostitutes and cocaine addicts, that Nunes does cocaine, and that Nunes was involved in a 'Russian money laundering front,'" according to Nunes' lawyers.
The complaint quoted a June 22, 2018 tweet from Mair that implied Nunes invested in a winery that "allegedly used underage hookers to solicit investment."
Mair did not respond to Fox News' request for comment.

To be fair, I think the @fresnobee writing up your investment in a winery that allegedly used underage hookers to solicit investment-- an allegation you've known about for years, during which you've stayed invested in it, I might add-- did surprise you. https://t.co/acMlAXjPP8
— BrandValue$4B (@LizMair) June 23, 2018

I don't know if that's defamatory, as it's loaded with "allegedlies" which will probably protect it.

Update: Maybe not. Nunes alleges that Mair is working "with" these fake-name attack accounts.

And a friend who just read the lawsuit itself tells me that Mair's LinkedIn profile says she's paid to "anonymously smear people on the Internet."

That's probably enough to allow a suit to go forward to determine if those anonymous accounts are in fact managed by or supported by Mair. (Assuming they push actual defamation which could serve as the basis for liability. If they don't push actual defamation, a court will reject attempts to probe who runs these accounts.*)

A lot of people have suspicions that these various attack accounts are in fact dummy accounts of people/groups funded by NeverTrump's deep-pocketed backers. I'd sure like to see some discovery on that point.

The complaint also charged that Twitter "shadow-banned" Nunes in 2018 "in order to restrict his free speech and to amplify the abusive and hateful content published and republished by Mair, Devin Nunes' Mom [an attack account pretending to be his mother]" and other accounts.

"The shadow-banning was intentional," the complaint continued. "It was calculated to interfere with and influence the federal election and interfere with Nunes’ ongoing investigation as a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Twitter’s actions affected the election results. The combination of the shadow-ban and Twitter’s refusal to enforce its Terms and Rules in the face of clear and present abuse and hateful conduct caused Nunes to lose support amongst voters."

Eh. I wish this case were stronger, or that Nunes would hold off on his suit so that a stronger suit can be first to market.

Then again, this wouldn't be the first lawsuit. But this would be the one the media talks about a lot, and not in a good way.

Meghan Murphy, who runs FeministCurrent, Canada’s leading feminist website, is suing Twitter for banning her for her personal beliefs.
The lawsuit, filed on Monday, says she was banned because her beliefs don’t align with the company’s politics.

She sued twitter for banning her for stating a truth, that a man born as a man is a man. Twitter, while claiming to be nonpartisan, is enforcing the sexual left's fringiest positions, including the claim that it is a hate crime and Actual Violence to "misgender" someone by correctly stating their gender.

You gotta click on that to see the picture of the guy she's saying is a guy. He identifies as a "lesbian transwoman," which means he's attracted to women, and that he's actually a guy who is claiming to be a woman.

Here's the thing: He has a full luxurious mustache and beard.

It's like this is a baiting performance-act joke.

* Though I should say that in my own case, the Obama-appointed judge was extremely unwilling to protect my anonymity.

But in general, if you're not a conservative in front of an Obama-appointed judge, courts are supposed to honor the tradition of anonymous speech as part of one's free speech rights.

Is This a Theory That Works?

91 Social media makes money off of data collection of the user. Shadow banning would be fraud. They collect data and profits while denying you their service while claiming that they are.
Posted by: literally serious

If they're taking what they want from you (data, eyes for its sponsored posts) and not giving you what they've promised in return (publicly communicating with the world) -- that is either fraud or breach of contract or both.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:01 PM

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1 really?

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 18, 2019 07:03 PM (d7Ww2)

2 and I read the content

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 18, 2019 07:03 PM (d7Ww2)

3 go figure

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 18, 2019 07:04 PM (d7Ww2)

4 I did read this last month, though

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 18, 2019 07:04 PM (d7Ww2)

5 >>Here's the thing: He has a full luxurious mustache and beard.

"And. . .???"

-- Conchita Wurst

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2019 07:04 PM (W+vEI)

6 Everbody knows a man that's born a man is a man. Until of course he becomes a democrap.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2019 07:05 PM (qBNEP)

7 He identifies as a "lesbian transwoman," which means he's attracted
to women, and that he's actually a guy who is claiming to be a woman.

Here's the thing: He has a full luxurious mustache and beard.

Can we PLEASE reach Peak Stupid already and be done with it?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:05 PM (ptqGC)

8 I hope he is successful - but like Ace I doubt he will be. Unfortunately we are through the looking glass and I don't think there is a way back.

Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at March 18, 2019 07:08 PM (Vvusm)

9 "You gotta click on that to see the picture of the guy she's saying is a
guy. He identifies as a "lesbian transwoman," which means he's attracted
to women, and that he's actually a guy who is claiming to be a woman."

Speaking of transwoman, get a load of Liz Mair and tell me that's not a man.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 18, 2019 07:08 PM (t6MX/)

10 Geraldo just volunteered to be PDT's "Twitter editor."

Umm, no thanks Jerry.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:08 PM (ptqGC)

11

Liz Mair is a terrible awful person. Glad she's gonna get a lawsuit shoved up her leftist ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 18, 2019 07:08 PM (9dh/m)

12 >>Screenshot: Alex Drummond, prominent Stonewall UK advisor who identifies as a "lesbian transwoman," explains "what it means to be a woman"

Oh, go [redacted] yourself, Alex!
That clown does not know what it means to be a woman, he's trolling.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2019 07:08 PM (W+vEI)

13 I don't know about the lawsuits against the individuals. Given how hard it is for a public figure to win on a defamation claim, they'll probably be fine too.

The process can be the punishment. I want to see a deep pocketed rightist grind some of these shit weasels into the dust with court proceedings. Driving some to suicide would be a special treat.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 18, 2019 07:08 PM (yQpMk)

14 $250 million seems to be a popular amount these days.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 18, 2019 07:09 PM (sy5kK)

15 How big are it's boobs?

Posted by: literally serious at March 18, 2019 07:09 PM (tRLIC)

16 Sean Davis exposed some fuckery about one of his tweets where his tweet about Lisa Page's testimony was visible to him when he logged in, but nobody else could see it.

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1107736676602925056

Given the shadowbanning nonsense and what New Zealand is trying to do with its citizens who even encounter links to the Christchurch mosque shooter, expect to see even more censorship coming up just in time for the 2020 election.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 18, 2019 07:09 PM (Ta69/)

17 He identifies as a "lesbian transwoman," which means he's attracted to
women, and that he's actually a guy who is claiming to be a woman.

In my first act as emperor of the world, I will order that anyone that "identifies" as anything other than their birth sex gets a night in The Box.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 07:09 PM (LL1Be)

18 I had to turn of JavaScript to get the page to load.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 18, 2019 07:10 PM (TdMsT)

19 CDA isn't my area of expertise but I think there is a strong case to be made that Twitter is acting outside the scope of a platform and thus loses the protections of Section 230.

It's a reciprocal arrangement. If platform acts x y z then it gets protections 1 2 3.

I think it was Sean Davis who posted today that Twitter admitted that it was doing something very nasty indeed. Twitter is now deleting tweets it deems as having "unsafe" content BUT leaving that tweet up for the user. In other words, you see it and have no idea it was deleted but no one else can see it.

That's not the actions of a platform.

Oh and his horrible action? Posting a portion of Congressional testimony.

The defamation will be harder and I won't bore the Horde with screech about how much I loathe Sullivan as applied.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 18, 2019 07:10 PM (GbPPJ)

20 Can we PLEASE reach Peak Stupid already and be done with it?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:05 PM (ptqGC)
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We might as well face it, Jane - it's never going to happen.

Posted by: bluebell at March 18, 2019 07:10 PM (aXucN)

21 I wonder what kind of beard grooming products he uses, conditioner, oils, etc. Very well groomed anyways....

Posted by: JROD at March 18, 2019 07:10 PM (qry2e)

22 Come on, this story came out 1 hour ago, and last updated 11 minutes ago. Why is Ace so far behind?

Posted by: Hands at March 18, 2019 07:10 PM (786Ro)

23 >>He identifies as a "lesbian transwoman," which means he's attracted
to women, and that he's actually a guy who is claiming to be a woman.

>>Here's the thing: He has a full luxurious mustache and beard.

It's called a flavor saver.

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2019 07:10 PM (Xgtpu)

24 Why is it so small?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 18, 2019 07:11 PM (S79IH)

25 Discovery should be interesting.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 07:11 PM (/tuJf)

26 What is this twatter you speak of?

Seriously, only was on it for a week or two and just couldn't see the point.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 18, 2019 07:11 PM (Y4EXg)

27 I had to turn of JavaScript to get the page to load.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 18, 2019 07:10 PM (TdMsT)

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I keep JS turned off and do an exceptions list for the few sites that I go to that need it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 18, 2019 07:11 PM (ffYR/)

28 >>The defamation will be harder and I won't bore the Horde with screech about how much I loathe Sullivan as applied.

I hate that bastard. Did like 10% of the work and gets 50% of the billing.

Posted by: Gibert at March 18, 2019 07:12 PM (Xgtpu)

29
20 Can we PLEASE reach Peak Stupid already and be done with it?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:05 PM (ptqGC)
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We might as well face it, Jane - it's never going to happen.
Posted by: bluebell at March 18, 2019 07:10 PM (aXucN)

Never underestimate the stupidity of others.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 18, 2019 07:12 PM (TdMsT)

30 What ? Twitter empowered people to censor speech, and those people chose to interpret the "standards" in such a way as to push their own agenda ? GTFO !!!

Only the most objective, non-biased person would fail to succumb to the temptation of, sooner or later, controlling the direction of the conversation by controlling who may or may not participate using something as subjective as "standards".

We're talking sainthood levels of objectivity. Multiple standard deviations from the mean.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:12 PM (QVGFM)

31 >>In my first act as emperor of the world, I will order that anyone that "identifies" as anything other than their birth sex gets a night in The Box.

And the box gets a night in The Lake.

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2019 07:13 PM (Xgtpu)

32 Flashback: Liz Mair Rick Wilson Nevertrump flameout 2016
http://tinyurl.com/y3o357w7

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 18, 2019 07:13 PM (t6MX/)

33 >>>19 CDA isn't my area of expertise but I think there is a strong case to be made that Twitter is acting outside the scope of a platform and thus loses the protections of Section 230.

It's a reciprocal arrangement. If platform acts x y z then it gets protections 1 2 3.

...

No, I believe you are wrong. It grants immunity to anything defined as an "interactive platform" or something, and the definition of that is pretty easy to qualify for.

In fact, the whole reason for this special excemption was to PERMIT comment moderation without imputing "publisher" status to the operation.

However, they've clearly begun abusing that exception to patrol for illegal advertisements, threats, harassment, etc. and the law should be modified to reflect that, and include the prerequisites you suggest.

But it won't be!

Posted by: ace at March 18, 2019 07:13 PM (PbpT7)

34 Never underestimate the stupidity of others.

It's imbeciles all the way down.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 18, 2019 07:13 PM (yQpMk)

35 They're actions towards they're subscribers may change their status without any notifications.

The sue them under the cover of the status they actually use and not the one they claim.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 18, 2019 07:13 PM (XEtO0)

36 Discovery should be interesting.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 07:11 PM (/tuJf)

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Yep. This has to be what Nunes is really after.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 18, 2019 07:14 PM (ffYR/)

37 Oh, go [redacted] yourself, Alex!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2019 07:08 PM (W+vEI)

Well, Duke Energy did notify me that the new reactor should be online by now.

brb

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 18, 2019 07:14 PM (GbPPJ)

38 >>$250 million seems to be a popular amount these days.

I wouldn't use the word Hero.

But. I would use the term Heroic.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 18, 2019 07:14 PM (Xgtpu)

39 34 Never underestimate the stupidity of others.

It's imbeciles all the way down.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 18, 2019 07:13 PM (yQpMk)

Take it to the bank.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 18, 2019 07:14 PM (TdMsT)

40 I can only assume Ace's take is correct ... they are deemed just a conduit, hence not accountable.

But even the phone company had rules ... they cannot disconnect people because a boss doesn't like the politics of a customer, can they? Their conduit function is one thing, their plugging the conduit of their political enemies is outside their conduit role.

But maybe the exemption is broad ... and they were granted Total Diplomatic Immunity or some such, with zero conditions. Would our corrupt GOPe allow that intentionally, being the globalist stooges they are?

I guess, yet it still seems plugging conduit does not fulfill their duty of just being conduit, and that is as deep as I get on such corporate law, or whatever it is.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 18, 2019 07:14 PM (Cus5s)

41 Huh.

Well, good luck to him.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 18, 2019 07:14 PM (wA4OO)

42 I think Mair 2as the one behind some sleepy ads against a Trump in Utah during the presidential election... maybe.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 18, 2019 07:15 PM (1g7ch)

43 Where on earth did all of this punching back at the Democrats and their allies come from? It is so weird to have this happening and not the usual cringing and wincing and whining and begging and folding.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Two Conniptions and Get a Free Fitting at The Outrage Outlet! at March 18, 2019 07:15 PM (0QYMt)

44 >>No, I believe you are wrong.

Little People Fight!

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2019 07:15 PM (Xgtpu)

45 Flashback: Liz Mair Rick Wilson Nevertrump flameout 2016
http://tinyurl.com/y3o357w7
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 18, 2019 07:13 PM (t6MX/)
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Thank you. I was pretty sure I remembered reading a story about her being a Republican consultant, and I couldn't reconcile that with this story. But I see she was trying to take down Trump, so it's making more sense.

Posted by: bluebell at March 18, 2019 07:15 PM (aXucN)

46 The incorrect idea that the CDA requires that you check certain boxes was pushed by, I think, ME, who did not understand it six months ago and did not read it carefully.

Since then I've seen the left pushing back and while I think the law must be changed, I grant that the law, as written now, does in fact grant these people an immunity to which they are not entitled.

Posted by: ace at March 18, 2019 07:15 PM (PbpT7)

47 Good.

Tort lawyers get a chance to be paid, defense attorneys can drive for dollars and Twitter can be made to apologize. Up next, a Mass Tort for the great unwashed.

A man can dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 18, 2019 07:15 PM (Z+IKu)

48 Never underestimate the stupidity of ~~others~~large groups of people who cannot think for themselves.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 18, 2019 07:16 PM (TAn6Q)

49 We had brunch downtown yesterday with a couple we became friends with in South Africa.

I had no idea of their politics whatsoever, as none of us on the safari discussed things like that at all.

Yesterday the husband told us about one of our rangers who picked them up in Johannesburg at the airport, and was like, "How about that Donald Trump?" And they were kind of, "Uh-oh." And he proceeded to tell them he'd give anything to have Trump as president of S. Africa, and how everyone he knows loves PDT. Of course the obvious reply is, "Of course. South Africa."

Anyhow, it was funny because during the St. Pat's parade here, there was a vendor selling "Trump 2020" flags, and people were walking around with them, including young people. And that gave me some hope.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:16 PM (ptqGC)

50 Again, the LGBTQ crowd have been lecturing us that biological sex=/= gender identity; these are completely separate things (see: stupid Genderbread man diagram).

SO: tell me again why it is offensive to point out that dude's biological sex?!

By their own rule, one can identify as anything (boundless possibilities), but that has nothing to do with what is in their pants --- sto stop demanding people pretend one's biological sex magically changes to match their gender identity.

Alinsky #4 these kooks.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2019 07:17 PM (W+vEI)

51 The incorrect idea that the CDA requires that you check certain boxes was pushed by, I think, ME, who did not understand it six months ago and did not read it carefully.

Posted by: ace at March 18, 2019 07:15 PM (PbpT7)
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I read "CDA" and then "ME" and I was thinking, who the heck has the initials ME and how am I supposed to know who he's talking about?

Posted by: bluebell at March 18, 2019 07:17 PM (aXucN)

52 Apropos of nothing, I have decided to forgo my next couple of cases of ammo in favor of a Dillon RL 550C Progressive Reloading Press.

I hope I don't blind myself.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 18, 2019 07:17 PM (yQpMk)

53 Mikey as you know Nunes has for several years been a responsible, serious public figure - making him a rarity in the GOP, and of course unlike anything else on the other side. But if you find yourself getting too excited by his fringe act, just review last week's Senate action to regain perspective.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:18 PM (QDnY+)

54 Martha McCallum is discussing Nunes' case right now on Fox.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:18 PM (ptqGC)

55 I feel sorry for people who intertwine their lives with Twitter and Facebook.

There really is a world out there.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at March 18, 2019 07:19 PM (lD3vL)

56 Sue like the wind!

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at March 18, 2019 07:19 PM (0OmEj)

57 Hah! That creature is, er, fascinating.

Posted by: Fritz at March 18, 2019 07:19 PM (LuPts)

58 Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:18 PM (QDnY+)

You are such a wet blanket.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Two Conniptions and Get a Free Fitting at The Outrage Outlet! at March 18, 2019 07:19 PM (0QYMt)

59 I've never twitted, tweeted, twatted, not facetubed. Thus never shadowbanned. But I am among we happy few who have been broad daylight banned right here. More than once.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2019 07:19 PM (qBNEP)

60 Grump, good decision. BTW, Weasel said he's expecting to some reloading-oriented gub threads soon. I'm waiting until then to respond to the No. 1 Myth - you can't/won't save money by reloading. The pervasiveness of this myth is amazing.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:19 PM (QDnY+)

61 Martha is covering this right now.

ace wins by 17 minutes.

Suck it FOX.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 07:20 PM (LL1Be)

62 I don't mind who gets in a shot at Twitter as long as somebody does

Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2019 07:20 PM (BbGew)

63 >>That creature is, er, fascinating.

You should read his Memoir : 'My Penis, My Burden'

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2019 07:20 PM (Xgtpu)

64
It's only right that we don't watch Fox News for two weeks after they suspended Judge Jeanine for 2 weeks.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 18, 2019 07:20 PM (9dh/m)

65 Grump - a progressive press? You'll have to increase the volume of your shooting (a sacrifice, I know) to justify such indulgence.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:21 PM (QDnY+)

66 Liz Mair sounds like a familiar name. I don't know where I've heard of her before.

Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2019 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

67 But I see she was trying to take down Trump, so it's making more sense.
Posted by: bluebell at March 18, 2019 07:15 PM (aXucN)

Yeah, I had nagging feeling she was some long-forgotten nevertrump troll. Makes sense she would be involved in defanging Nunes.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 18, 2019 07:22 PM (OqvJa)

68 I self identify as a cisgendered male who is currently married and sexually satisfied by Candace Owens.

And Jeanine Pirro

And Trish Regan

I self identified this so therefore it is true.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at March 18, 2019 07:22 PM (+dsLj)

69 Um, I'm fairly sure "commenter" tipped ace to this, though it's impossible to say ace hadn't seen it first/separately. And ace is on Twitter like a dog on a bone on precisely this issue, so.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:22 PM (QDnY+)

70 peak stupid may have been reached, but the bus is still coasting on past achievements.

Thatcher said socialism fails when EVENTUALLY you run out of other people's money. I suppose that applies to social structure as well as money. Society still functions on the residue of old morality still clinging to existence.

We still have Christian based morality widespread ... but the PeakStupid "57 sexes" and men in women's sports ... open borders and Green New Deals ... those cancers take time. We must suffer first, as AOCs become our hateful caregivers ... then we can die.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 18, 2019 07:22 PM (Cus5s)

71
Scott Walker was the last R to hire the leftist fraud Liz Mair as a Republican consultant, I believe.

She was fired for being terrible.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 18, 2019 07:23 PM (9dh/m)

72 Are we holding a International Day of Mourning for the dead white people in the Netherlands?
Has Chelsea Clinton commented?

No?
Why ever not?

Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 07:23 PM (LL1Be)

73 66 Liz Mair sounds like a familiar name. I don't know where I've heard of her before.
Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2019 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

See @32. She's original NT.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 18, 2019 07:23 PM (OqvJa)

74 Shadowbanning though violates Twatter's own terms and is a form of deception and subterfuge. IOW not operating in good faith. Nothing to do with using the cover of creating a safe space for 'the Community'

Posted by: kallisto at March 18, 2019 07:23 PM (mogRH)

75 I don't use the Twatter. Of course, being married for over twenty years is a big part of that.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:23 PM (QVGFM)

76
No, I believe you are wrong. It grants immunity to anything defined as an "interactive platform" or something, and the definition of that is pretty easy to qualify for.

In fact, the whole reason for this special excemption was to PERMIT comment moderation without imputing "publisher" status to the operation.

However, they've clearly begun abusing that exception to patrol for illegal advertisements, threats, harassment, etc. and the law should be modified to reflect that, and include the prerequisites you suggest.

But it won't be!
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2019 07:13 PM (PbpT7)

You're probably right but I Want To Believe.

And hahahaha Congress actually legislating hahahahaha.

May I be petty, Horde? I mean, petty even for me, which is like super petty.

I want to slap Meghan McCain so hard her false eyelashes go flying off for her no one will ever love you like people loved my dad tweet to Trump.

Ivanka is a better person than I, because my response would have been hey, cunt, you saying I don't love my dad? You tell me where, you tell me when, and you say it to my face.

By the by, I'm not exaggerating about what she said:

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1107030813198217217

"No one will ever love you the way they loved my father. I wish I had been given more Saturday's with him. Maybe spend yours with your family instead of on Twitter obsessing over mine?"

Anyone said that about me and loving my father and I would beat them until my hands shattered. And they would deserve it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 18, 2019 07:24 PM (GbPPJ)

77
If you're wondering just how many more leftist frauds are "advising" Republicans, the answer is: Many.

For example, shithead cuck Kevin McCarthy is surrounded by Democrat advisers who tell him to say stupid shit every day.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 18, 2019 07:25 PM (9dh/m)

78 Anyone said that about me and loving my father and I would beat them until my hands shattered. And they would deserve it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 18, 2019 07:24 PM (GbPPJ)

You're doing it wrong. Get a bat.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:25 PM (QVGFM)

79 >>Anyone said that about me and loving my father and I would beat them until my hands shattered.

Those shin bones are tough.

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2019 07:25 PM (Xgtpu)

80 Anyone said that about me and loving my father and I would beat them until my hands shattered. And they would deserve it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 18, 2019 07:24 PM (GbPPJ)

Same here. My late dad was an angel on earth. Meghan is well past her sell-by date. I loathe her.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:25 PM (ptqGC)

81
Cruz hired a real beaut in 2016, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 18, 2019 07:26 PM (9dh/m)

82 Where is the old testament God when you really need him?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 18, 2019 07:26 PM (LWu6U)

83 Grump and Rhomboid, I told Mrs. E we needed to burn up some old 9MM and she been at it harrrd. Well, tomorrow I have to climb Gander Mountain and mine some 9MM and I don't really like that. But Mrs. E and I have a shooting date this Wednesday and little Austrian, Italian, and Czech refugees need to be fed.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2019 07:26 PM (qBNEP)

84 Liz Phair > Liz Mair

Posted by: Hands at March 18, 2019 07:26 PM (786Ro)

85 Oh, and this Mother's Day is 24 years since my sweet Daddy fell, hit his head, and died on an operating table. He was 76 and I'm still heartbroken.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:26 PM (ptqGC)

86 Meghan is a drama queen. Just like her daddy.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 18, 2019 07:26 PM (dUJdY)

87 >>>69 Um, I'm fairly sure "commenter" tipped ace to this, though it's impossible to say ace hadn't seen it first/separately. And ace is on Twitter like a dog on a bone on precisely this issue, so.

a friend sent it over.

Posted by: ace at March 18, 2019 07:27 PM (PbpT7)

88 But Mrs. E and I have a shooting date this Wednesday and little Austrian, Italian, and Czech refugees need to be fed.
Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2019 07:26 PM (qBNEP)

Big fan of SGAmmo here.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:27 PM (ya5oG)

89 if someone is saying I owe them an h/t, honestly, a friend sent this minutes after the last post and I've been holding it for 20 minutes.

Posted by: ace at March 18, 2019 07:27 PM (PbpT7)

90 >>Liz Mair sounds like a familiar name. I don't know where I've heard of her before.

Also sounds like singer Liz Phair, who is NOT and awful political hack!

https://tinyurl.com/o8ve2ye
Supernova

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2019 07:28 PM (W+vEI)

91 Social media makes money off of data collection of the user. Shadow banning would be fraud. They collect data and profits while denying you their service while claiming that they are.

Posted by: literally serious at March 18, 2019 07:28 PM (tRLIC)

92 This is perfect. And funny.

https://bit.ly/2HGG2b4

Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 07:28 PM (/tuJf)

93 *hugs Jane hard*

You're doing it wrong. Get a bat.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:25 PM (QVGFM)

That's assault with a deadly weapon as opposed to just assault and battery.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 18, 2019 07:29 PM (GbPPJ)

94

Who loved john mccain?? He was hated by everyone.

President Trump is genuinely loved by tens of millions of people.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 18, 2019 07:29 PM (9dh/m)

95 if someone is saying I owe them an h/t, honestly, a
friend sent this minutes after the last post and I've been holding it
for 20 minutes.

Posted by: ace at March 18, 2019 07:27 PM (PbpT7)

That's gonna' leave one Hell of a mess.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:29 PM (ya5oG)

96 honestly, a friend sent this minutes after the last post and I've been holding it for 20 minutes.

and STILL scooped FOX: The New Home of Donna "Fired by CNN" Brazile.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 07:29 PM (LL1Be)

97 Speaking of frauds and beating people with a bat, has anyone seen Karl Rove lately.......

Batter up!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 18, 2019 07:29 PM (Z+IKu)

98 A lot of people have suspicions that these various attack accounts are in fact dummy accounts of people/groups funded by NeverTrump's deep-pocketed backers. I'd sure like to see some discovery on that point.

---------------

This alone would make it worth it.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 18, 2019 07:29 PM (MuTTO)

99 Grump, good decision. BTW, Weasel said he's expecting to some reloading-oriented gub threads soon.

Aye. That's what pushed me over the edge. I will probably be a plague on the Gub Thread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 18, 2019 07:29 PM (yQpMk)

100 >>Meghan is a drama queen. Just like her daddy.

She could use a few months in Laotian Fat Camp.

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2019 07:29 PM (Xgtpu)

101 I've mentioned this before, but my late dad had a cousin who was one of the last returning occupants of the Hanoi Hilton. He was at my Daddy's funeral.

He came home, took up the family business, and has lived a quiet, dignified life.

The Maverick. All I can do is type and delete.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:29 PM (ptqGC)

102 82 Where is the old testament God when you really need him?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 18, 2019 07:26 PM (LWu6U)

I'm getting to it. Just hold on a little bit longer...

Posted by: The Dude Who Holds the Key of David at March 18, 2019 07:30 PM (Ta69/)

103 >>I've been holding it
for 20 minutes.

Always with the edging, this guy.

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2019 07:30 PM (Xgtpu)

104
*hugs Jane hard*

*hugs AtC back hard*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:31 PM (ptqGC)

105 The howls of anguish over PDTS tweets on McCain make me think he is over the target and they know it. Fuck that guy in particular and his eclair eating scrunt daughter.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 18, 2019 07:31 PM (TAn6Q)

106 Mair, worked on Mc Cain, Fiorina, and Scott Walker's campaign 's as a communications director. She resign from Walker's campaign over some twatter business.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 18, 2019 07:31 PM (l4G13)

107 This is perfect. And funny.

https://bit.ly/2HGG2b4
Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 07:28 PM (/tuJf)

That dog is blinking Save Me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 18, 2019 07:31 PM (GbPPJ)

108 78 Anyone said that about me and loving my father and I would beat them until my hands shattered. And they would deserve it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 18, 2019 07:24 PM (GbPPJ)

You're doing it wrong. Get a bat.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:25 PM (QVGFM)

+1

Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2019 07:32 PM (sdi6R)

109 Exhibit A

Learn to code.

Posted by: Ha at March 18, 2019 07:32 PM (MAstk)

110 OT as over 100

PJ Media is now part of Townhall. Facebook comments for all?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 18, 2019 07:32 PM (u82oZ)

111
Mair, worked on Mc Cain, Fiorina, and Scott Walker's campaign 's as a
communications director.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 18, 2019 07:31 PM (l4G13)

My husband has a cousin who did as well. No further comment.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:32 PM (ptqGC)

112 The defamation will be harder and I won't bore the Horde with screech about how much I loathe Sullivan as applied.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 18, 2019 07:10 PM (GbPPJ)

I heard the court is slowing reconsidering Sullivan. I wonder if the logic is going to be that the ability of everyone to have a bullhorn changes the rules?

Posted by: WOPR - KTF always wins at March 18, 2019 07:32 PM (J70i0)

113 Thatcher said socialism fails when EVENTUALLY you run out of other people's money. I suppose that applies to social structure as well as money. Society still functions on the residue of old morality still clinging to existence.

It is said that there is a lot of ruin in a great nation.

We are going to find out.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 18, 2019 07:33 PM (yQpMk)

114
This Cat sleeps with his tongue hanging out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdhJn7cc8cg

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 18, 2019 07:33 PM (9dh/m)

115 I get that we want the action to be as strong as possible, but first we have to start getting some rounds down range.

Make them play some defense now and then.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at March 18, 2019 07:33 PM (jp0Bv)

116 Wonder how Ben Domenech is enjoying married life?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:34 PM (ptqGC)

117 Whoa, ace, not serious, just engaging in a bit of standard HQ mischief, as I'd seen "commenter" post a comment about this story in the last thread (which you ID'd as a short-timer because it was a ripe story).

He didn't say it, nobody else did, just me horsing around.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:34 PM (QDnY+)

118 >>Wonder how Ben Domenech is enjoying married life?

I bet he finds it a heavy load to bear.

Suffocating, at times.

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2019 07:35 PM (Xgtpu)

119 Holding it for 20 minutes is a luxury those under 29 can afford.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2019 07:35 PM (qBNEP)

120 You know, I got a good way to tie up these "loose ends".

Posted by: Anthony Comello at March 18, 2019 07:35 PM (JkmIf)

121 The time has come to stop letting people get away with things that would be illegal in any other forum but the Internet. Defamation is illegal. Even lying about public figures is not protected speech. Forcing people to defend themselves is almost sufficient penalty to stop this behavior.

Posted by: IanDeal at March 18, 2019 07:36 PM (vgGyZ)

122 "The Communication Decency Act gives publishers like Twitter the designation of "platform" and says they can't be held liable for a third party's defamations"
____

I'm wondering if the suit might be attacking this. It certainly seems to be a capricious designation these days.

I also noted that the "trans-lesbian", in a blue uniform, would look like a Civil War general.

Finally, I'll repeat a link I posted in the Ape thread.

https://tinyurl.com/yycaoghy

It's Chesterton's essay, "The Drift from Domesticity". It's a fine defense of the family, and the source of his "fence" argument. I recommend everyone read it.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 18, 2019 07:36 PM (VaN/j)

123 so long as the suit is allowed to go forward lots of interesting things could get disclosed.

would be interesting to know how shadowbanning happens without dorsey's knowing. has to be an easy fix to make sure it does not happen any more.

would be really nice if twitter's investors found out that the whole thing was a huge dem disinformation distributor and not a real money making venture.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 07:36 PM (MTjB1)

124 I get that we want the action to be as strong as possible, but first we have to start getting some rounds down range. Make them play some defense now and then.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at March 18, 2019 07:33 PM (jp0Bv)

Yep - Progressives will never abandon ANY tactic until Republicans start using said tactic better. Any why should they abandon a winning strategy ? Because it's the "right thing to do" ? For the good of the country ?

Please. Whoever wins decides what's right and what's good ... because they won.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:36 PM (ya5oG)

125 104

*hugs Jane hard*

*hugs AtC back hard*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:31 PM (ptqGC)

Get a room.
But....pics or it didn't happen.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 18, 2019 07:36 PM (ufFY8)

126 if you put the whole mccain family together, you'd barely have enough for a stool sample. empty, vapid, vile, filth. not worth my time.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 18, 2019 07:37 PM (KP5rU)

127
DISCOVERY
DISCOVERY
DISCOVERY
DISCOVERY
DISCOVERY

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 18, 2019 07:37 PM (eXA4G)

128 Meggie Mac told The View hags a while back, that she and Ben enjoy cooking together at night.

*blink*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:38 PM (ptqGC)

129 I bet Megan can really funk up a Powder Room.

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2019 07:38 PM (Xgtpu)

130 >>Anyone said that about me and loving my father and I would beat them until my hands shattered. And they would deserve it.

Hell, yes!

Meghan seems to confuse her personal life with political life. We get it, you loved your dad and want to defend him. That is a right and honorable instinct. However, he was a politician, and he dished it out as much as he has received. His political opponents are allowed to criticize his public/political actions.

She needs to grow up and learn to separate the two.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2019 07:38 PM (W+vEI)

131 Heh. Now Martha McCallum is talking about Beto and his hacking story.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:38 PM (ptqGC)

132 so is "cooking" some sort of code word for smothering?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 07:39 PM (MTjB1)

133 Meggie Mac told The View hags a while back, that she and Ben enjoy cooking together at night.

*blink*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:38 PM (ptqGC)

Apparently Ben has mastered the ancient culinary art of the "double batch".

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:39 PM (ya5oG)

134 More Butter?

Posted by: Ben Domenich at March 18, 2019 07:40 PM (Xgtpu)

135 Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 18, 2019 07:32 PM (u82oZ)

If you like your comment section, you can keep your comment section.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 18, 2019 07:40 PM (XEtO0)

136 However, he was a politician, and he dished it out
as much as he has received.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2019 07:38 PM (W+vEI)

With one conspicuous exception ... Barack Hussein Obama. Mmm Mmm Mmm.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:41 PM (ya5oG)

137 Apparently Ben has mastered the ancient culinary art of the "double batch".

I figured she could afford to just buy the Haagen-Dazs Chunky Monkey.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 18, 2019 07:41 PM (yQpMk)

138 guessing sex with meggie is more like surfing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 07:41 PM (MTjB1)

139 Lawfare the shit out of them, Devin

Posted by: Ben Had at March 18, 2019 07:42 PM (l4G13)

140 (looks to the South Bend area and general vicinity)

Can I defame someone? I wanna defame someone, too!!

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at March 18, 2019 07:42 PM (bsGzI)

141 For cryin' out loud Megs ... do a push-up from the table once in a while.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at March 18, 2019 07:42 PM (ya5oG)

142 Our current tech bubble runs primarily on the economic engine of stealing information from the users.

My previous employer had been making money via online advertising. That stopped being profitable once THAT was looked at (there was a lot of fraud). So now their model is selling your activity patterns, aggregate data, and in some cases your personal information (who knew there was something worse than forcing you to see ads?!!). I am sure we weren't alone in making this shift.

So, yes. Your theory is sound, Ace.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 18, 2019 07:42 PM (Rarvo)

143 With one conspicuous exception ... Barack Hussein Obama. Mmm Mmm Mmm.

Posted by: NFTG at M

With one conspicuous exception ... Barack Hussein Obama. Mmm Mmm dick.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 07:42 PM (MTjB1)

144 Ulysses? Beto named his kid Ulysses?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 07:43 PM (/tuJf)

145 "Shadowbanning though violates Twatter's own terms and is a form of deception and subterfuge" kalisto

yeah, it seems to me, malicious and seditious intent, conspiracy to corrupt the democratic process ... these supersede and exemption on censoring bad actors.

But that type justice would mean Hillary would be locked up with Mueller long ago. So we instead argue from whatever weakened position they tell us we are allowed to lose from. It's the justice system of handicapping the patriots, so they always lose in a rigged game.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 18, 2019 07:44 PM (Cus5s)

146 Twitter's major investors are Saudi's.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 18, 2019 07:44 PM (l4G13)

147 Eromero, you are a great American. As is your spouse, obviously. And such touching regard for the feeding needs of those immigrants. Getting dusty in here.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:44 PM (QDnY+)

148 Ben keeps 50 lb sacks of flour around those "special moments".

Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 07:44 PM (LL1Be)

149 It's time to begin celebrating normalcy again.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 18, 2019 07:44 PM (oVJmc)

150 Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 07:41 PM (MTjB1)

A waterbed with no wet spot.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 18, 2019 07:44 PM (XEtO0)

151 "The Communication Decency Act gives publishers like Twitter the designation of "platform" and says they can't be held liable for a third party's defamations"
____

I'm wondering if the suit might be attacking this. It certainly seems to be a capricious designation these days.

I also noted that the "trans-lesbian", in a blue uniform, would look like a Civil War general.

Finally, I'll repeat a link I posted in the Ape thread.

https://tinyurl.com/yycaoghy

It's Chesterton's essay, "The Drift from Domesticity". It's a fine defense of the family, and the source of his "fence" argument. I recommend everyone read it.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 18, 2019 07:36 PM (VaN/j)

If they claim that, then they can't create barriers to entry and censor capriciously. If they are a publisher, they can do that, but then they are responsible for what they allow.

They are skating the line and being the worst of both.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 18, 2019 07:44 PM (FTPn0)

152 Ulysses? Beto named his kid Ulysses?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 07:43 PM (/tuJf)

Great name for a song !!!

Posted by: Jack Bruce at March 18, 2019 07:45 PM (ya5oG)

153 Wonder how Ben Domenech is enjoying married life?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:34 PM (ptqGC)

She's added at least three growth rings since they got hitched. I hope he's got the world's greatest prenup. Unless he likes teh heft...

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 18, 2019 07:45 PM (y7DUB)

154
*hugs Jane hard*

*hugs AtC back hard*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:31 PM (ptqGC)

Bow-chick-a-wow-wow

*breaks out speedos, mirrored Ray Bans and stick-on porn 'stache*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 18, 2019 07:45 PM (eXA4G)

155 How does shadowbanning jibe with a 'just a platform' claim?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 18, 2019 07:46 PM (oVJmc)

156 152
Ulysses? Beto named his kid Ulysses?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 07:43 PM (/tuJf)

Great name for a song !!!

Posted by: Jack Bruce at March 18, 2019 07:45 PM (ya5oG)

And a book.

Posted by: Jimmy Joyce at March 18, 2019 07:46 PM (ufFY8)

157 What in the Hell was I thinking ?

Posted by: Ben Domenech in Five Years at March 18, 2019 07:46 PM (ya5oG)

158 Discovery should be interesting.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 07:11 PM (/tuJf)

-------------------------

Yep. This has to be what Nunes is really after.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 18, 2019 07:14 PM (ffYR/)

Or what he expects Twitter to want to avoid like the plague.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 18, 2019 07:47 PM (FTPn0)

159 Tiny purple fishes, run laughing through my fingers...

Posted by: Chris M at March 18, 2019 07:47 PM (6XZdO)

160 BlackOrchid, interesting. I've long called the "tech" companies "advertising companies", since without checking I'd guess 90% of their actual revenue comes from ads and related skullduggery (I'm lumping all the personal data stuff/etc in here with "advertising", since it's related).

I cannot believe - well, of course I can believe - that there has been no successful attempt, or maybe even a serious effort, to make ALL of it "opt-in", as opposed to "opt-out". Wouldn't that simple reform basically destroy the business model of all the most pernicious "tech" companies (big names, and not hardware makers, these "advertising" companies)?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:48 PM (QDnY+)

161 I guess $250M is the sweet spot?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 18, 2019 07:48 PM (oVJmc)

162 Tiny purple fishes, run laughing through my fingers...
Posted by: Chris M at March 18, 2019 07:47 PM (6XZdO)

That is brilliant !!! Can I "borrow" that ?

Posted by: Jack Bruce at March 18, 2019 07:48 PM (ya5oG)

163 more correctly, the saudis prince waleed owns a lot of twitter, 39 some million shares, but there are several investors that own more. waleed has about 5%.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 07:48 PM (MTjB1)

164 I think this will have legs, because Trump will get the DOJ to investigate this as well.

Facebook, and Twitter both 'Edit' content by banning some content, but not other content that clearly is the same as the banned content, but on a different political side.

YouTube will demonetize some, while promoting others, based on their political leanings.

This is clearly partisan, and once you start editing, you SHOULD be liable for libel and defamation lawsuits.

Posted by: Don Q at March 18, 2019 07:49 PM (NgKpN)

165 yes, of course it is fraud ... I've argued that for a long time. They said we share all our stuff, they agree to be fair. Then they completely destroy one side and prop up or even fund "social terrorism" for the other.

(social terrorist ... seems like a good definition of what the social justice warriors really are. A mob at Tucker's house, chasing Sarah Huckabee out, anitfa attacks ... none of that is social justice, it is social terrorism. Terror does not have to be bombs ... it is constant harassment which robs us of life itself. live free or die)

Posted by: illiniwek at March 18, 2019 07:49 PM (Cus5s)

166 I cannot believe - well, of course I can believe - that there has been no successful attempt, or maybe even a serious effort, to make ALL of it "opt-in", as opposed to "opt-out". Wouldn't that simple reform basically destroy the business model of all the most pernicious "tech" companies (big names, and not hardware makers, these "advertising" companies)?
Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:48 PM (QDnY+)

It depends on if you trust them to not opt in on your data themselves without telling you, or when they told you they would not, which repeatedly has been shown to be the case.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 18, 2019 07:49 PM (FTPn0)

167 163 more correctly, the saudis prince waleed owns a lot of twitter, 39 some million shares, but there are several investors that own more. waleed has about 5%.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 07:48 PM (MTjB1)

Is he the one who owns part of Fox News too?

Posted by: Don Q at March 18, 2019 07:49 PM (NgKpN)

168 Martha is covering this right now.

ace wins by 17 minutes.

Suck it FOX.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 07:20 PM (LL
**************
FOX did send it out as an alert which I posted in the last thread.
Glad Nunes is doing this and I pray he wins.
These companies need to suffer.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 18, 2019 07:50 PM (hECVl)

169 "more correctly, the saudis prince waleed owns a lot of twitter, 39 some million shares, but there are several investors that own more. waleed has about 5%."

Whata buncha idiots!

Posted by: Chris M at March 18, 2019 07:51 PM (6XZdO)

170 waleed has shares in 21st century fox

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 07:52 PM (MTjB1)

171 yeah, it seems to me, malicious and seditious intent, conspiracy to corrupt the democratic process ... these supersede and exemption on censoring bad actors.

But that type justice would mean Hillary would be locked up with Mueller long ago. So we instead argue from whatever weakened position they tell us we are allowed to lose from. It's the justice system of handicapping the patriots, so they always lose in a rigged game.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 18, 2019 07:44 PM (Cus5s)

Also in kind campaign contributions from a corporation, which MUST be declared by law.

They, were not.

Posted by: Don Q at March 18, 2019 07:52 PM (NgKpN)

172 Oldcat I'm assuming directly violating a law like that would be easy to discover and prove and ruinous for the perps (the companies). Their lawyers wouldn't let them do it. It could sink a compnay. IF big teeth were put into opt-in being the only lawful mode.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:53 PM (QDnY+)

173 Also in kind campaign contributions from a corporation, which MUST be declared by law. They, were not.
Posted by: Don Q at March 18, 2019 07:52 PM (NgKpN)

Rules without consequences are really just suggestions. Rules with consequences only for some rather than all are just legal oppression.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 07:54 PM (ya5oG)

174 illiniwek @ 165-- Now would be a great time to re-read Lucifer's Hammer by DR. Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven or anything written by James Wesley, Rawles. Or you could just watch TWD. Primers for the coming 'zombie' apocalypse.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2019 07:55 PM (qBNEP)

175 @GeorgePapa19

We're going to get to the bottom behind who sent Deep State actors Joseph Mifsud, Stefan Halper, Alexander Downer and more to make contact with me and the team. We are fortunate the sitting CIA director ran the London office in 2016.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 07:55 PM (/tuJf)

176 Can we just regulate them as utilities/public accommodations and be done with it?

Posted by: John The Savage at March 18, 2019 07:58 PM (O464X)

177
Washington (AFP) - Half of Americans believe President Donald Trump is the victim of a political "witch hunt," nearly two years after the launch of the Russia meddling investigation, a new poll showed Monday.

Voters are also broadly opposed, 62 percent to 28 percent, to an impeachment effort against the president in the House of Representatives, the USA Today/Suffolk University poll showed.

Oh that's got to hurt the MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2019 07:58 PM (sziwh)

178 Holy cats. 11% of parents would call the employers of their 18-28 y.o. "children" if the kids had problems at work.

This on Martha's show right now.

We need more Parris Islands. Make them mandatory.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:58 PM (ptqGC)

179 I wanna sue somebody too!

Posted by: freaked at March 18, 2019 07:59 PM (UdKB7)

180 3 in 5 Millenials Say Life Is More Stressful Now Than EVAR!!!

"Life was, like so much EASIER when I was 6!"

Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 08:00 PM (LL1Be)

181 159 Tiny purple fishes, run laughing through my fingers...

goldfish shoals nibbling at my toes, fun, fun, fun!

Posted by: Anachronda at March 18, 2019 08:00 PM (sGtp+)

182 176 Can we just regulate them as utilities/public accommodations and be done with it?
Posted by: John The Savage at March 18, 2019 07:58 PM (O464X)

We need a Federal Law that states that if a company does not support the Bill of Rights, ie Free Speech, Freedom of Religion, Gun Rights and such, that they cannot get a license to do business in the US.

BANKS should not be able to discriminate against a Legal Business, like gun stores. They are.

Posted by: Don Q at March 18, 2019 08:00 PM (NgKpN)

183 freaked, there are lots of lawyers out there that want to 'help' you.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2019 08:01 PM (qBNEP)

184 Tiny purple fishes, run laughing through my fingers...

goldfish shoals nibbling at my toes, fun, fun, fun!

How are they at buttshines?

Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 08:01 PM (LL1Be)

185 Oh I think everyone knows who sent the pathetic agency-linked operatives to cozy up to Papadop and Page. But publicly proving it? Something else.

Trump is going to have probably exercise his powers. There is effectively no Congress on these (central) matters. The de-classification club is going to have to be swung hard, repeatedly.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 08:01 PM (QDnY+)

186 180 3 in 5 Millenials Say Life Is More Stressful Now Than EVAR!!!
Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 08:00 PM (LL1Be)

They are REALLY not going to like the future.

Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2019 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

187 We are fortunate the sitting CIA director ran the London office in 2016.

mwa-ha-ha.

If Trump put her in place with this outcome in mind, I'm gonna die laughing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 18, 2019 08:02 PM (oVJmc)

188 We need more Parris Islands. Make them mandatory.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 07:58 PM (ptqGC)

Oh Hell no. You do that, and Progressives will own that space as well - in short order. The military is already trending Left - just like every other bureaucracy.

The answer to ANY cultural trend is NEVER to give government more influence over it.

Posted by: NFTG at March 18, 2019 08:02 PM (c7rv0)

189 TuCa is on fire. Again.

We need this man. He fights.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 08:02 PM (ptqGC)

190 >>If Trump put her in place with this outcome in mind, I'm gonna die laughing.

Can't be true. Trump is a dummy and nothing is happening.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 08:03 PM (/tuJf)

191 Tiny purple fishes, run laughing through my fingers...

Posted by: Chris M at March 18, 2019 07:47 PM (6XZdO)

And you want to take her with you to the hard land of the winter.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2019 08:03 PM (sziwh)

192 I had a couple vendors piss me off so bad last week, that I came within inches of a psychotic break.

I can't imagine their reaction if I'd had my mom call them

Ridiculous.

Luckily she taught me how to burn a motherfucker down at an early age, so I don't need her to

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 18, 2019 08:04 PM (A0EjZ)

193 FROM LINKEDIN
What do I do for these clients? Anonymously smear their opposition on the Internet.

More broadly? Get sh*t done.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 18, 2019 08:04 PM (JFO2v)

194 And you want to take her with you to the hard land of the winter.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2019 08:03 PM (sziwh)

Yeah - I really miss the old acid days.

Posted by: Jack Bruce at March 18, 2019 08:04 PM (c7rv0)

195 So who's the better musician?
Beto or Morning Joe?

Posted by: wth at March 18, 2019 08:05 PM (v0R5T)

196 A lawyer friend once told me that you can "sue the Bishop of Boston for blasphemy" but you gotta be able to win.

Posted by: freaked at March 18, 2019 08:05 PM (UdKB7)

197
3 in 5 Millenials Say Life Is More Stressful Now Than EVAR!!!

"Life was, like so much EASIER when I was 6!"
Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 08:00 PM (LL1Be)

Life in mom's basement can be HELL!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2019 08:06 PM (sziwh)

198 We have "conservative" *cough* friends whose son is in the USAF. They swore that he was in boot camp, while he was walking around the base, whining to them on his cellphone.

As the mother of a combat Marine, just kill me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 08:06 PM (ptqGC)

199 YD, let me buy you a drink and remember -Never get mad- always get even.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 18, 2019 08:06 PM (l4G13)

200
Yeah - I really miss the old acid days.

Posted by: Jack Bruce at March 18, 2019 08:04 PM (c7rv0)

Coming to me in the morning, leaving me at night.
Coming to me in the morning, leaving me alone.
You've got that rainbow feel,
But the rainbow has a beard.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2019 08:07 PM (sziwh)

201 Hi nurse!

Posted by: Some rat in the Swamp at March 18, 2019 08:07 PM (LOq4H)

202 Black-roof country, no gold pavements, tired starlings.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 08:07 PM (LL1Be)

203 64 Didn't know that but I'm thinking of dropping Fox because of hiring Donna Cheater, and should drop them a line about it.

Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2019 08:07 PM (BbGew)

204 "Tiny purple fishes, run laughing through my fingers...
goldfish shoals nibbling at my toes, fun, fun, fun"

Not anymore.

*** eerrrrp ***

Posted by: Gollum at March 18, 2019 08:07 PM (UdKB7)

205 Joe Concha is great.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 08:08 PM (ptqGC)

206 YD, let me buy you a drink and remember -Never get mad- always get even.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 18, 2019 08:06 PM (l4G13)

---

Oh, for sure... one vendor got his mind right already. I'm working on the other one, but he'll come around.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 18, 2019 08:09 PM (A0EjZ)

207 I love it when my husband calls to tell me he won't be home for "dinner" until 9:00 because a vendor wants to take him for drinks.

*seethes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 08:09 PM (ptqGC)

208 3 in 5 Millenials Say Life Is More Stressful Now Than EVAR!!!

I think it was Rush who was reading a survey of the biggest stresses in the lives of Millennials. Practically every one was phone-related-- slow wifi, low batteries, etc.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 18, 2019 08:10 PM (oVJmc)

209 Hey Jane.. how's your back?

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 18, 2019 08:11 PM (dUJdY)

210 If Trump put her in place with this outcome in mind, I'm gonna die laughing.
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Can't be true. Trump is a dummy and nothing is happening.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 08:03 PM (/tuJf)
~~~~~

Something that worries and confuses me is that Brennan was very happy with the choice of Haspell, no?

Posted by: IrishEi at March 18, 2019 08:11 PM (NtglE)

211 The PCLAA is supposed to protect gun makers from liability for crimes committed with their products, but a few Hacks in Black in Connecticut decided that the law doesn't really apply to companies they don't like. So screw Twitter. Hopefully, Nunes can find a judge that will agree with his theory of the case. MIght get turned over on appeal, sure, but at least it will make some news and give ol' @Jack a bit of a scare.

Posted by: Dilsin at March 18, 2019 08:12 PM (3OMsg)

212 180 3 in 5 Millenials Say Life Is More Stressful Now Than EVAR!!!

"Life was, like so much EASIER when I was 6!"
Posted by: mikeyG at March 18, 2019 08:00 PM (LL1Be)

Fuck u pussies

Gas lines
even odd days
18% house notes
Carter (worthless mother fucker)
Blow jobs in whitehouse (not Hussein on Michelle)
SAT not inflated 400 points

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 18, 2019 08:12 PM (JFO2v)

213 I think it was Rush who was reading a survey of the biggest stresses in the lives of Millennials. Practically every one was phone-related-- slow wifi, low batteries, etc.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 18, 2019 08:10 PM (oVJmc)

I can relate. Posting on the HQ on my phone when I'm supposed to be working is tough. The screen's so tiny.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 18, 2019 08:12 PM (t+qrx)

214 do vendors continue to use the word "drinks" as code for hookers?

vendors are wonderful guys sometimes.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 08:12 PM (MTjB1)

215 I never, ever , heard one Holocaust survivor say the were stressed.

Fuck you, you useless pantywaists.

I never accept any one of my customers using that word. Try Harder.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 18, 2019 08:13 PM (l4G13)

216 The sidebar link about the exploding meteor is odd. It says the explosion was detected by "infrared" stations, but if you go to their link, it says infrasound.

Posted by: Chris M at March 18, 2019 08:13 PM (6XZdO)

217 3 in 5 Millenials Say Life Is More Stressful Now Than EVAR!!!

I think it was Rush who was reading a survey of the biggest stresses in the lives of Millennials. Practically every one was phone-related-- slow wifi, low batteries, etc.

Sheesh.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 18, 2019 08:10 PM (oVJmc)

You just don't understand how stressful that can be!!! Other generations had it sooooo much easier. All they had to deal with was the Depression, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, Jimmy Carter....

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2019 08:13 PM (SNcqh)

218 "Practically every one was phone-related-- slow wifi, low batteries, etc. "

I missed that but really? That's stress? We really need some saber toothed tigers running around to show them what's what.

Posted by: Gollum at March 18, 2019 08:14 PM (UdKB7)

219 Mr. Peebles @ 208--America as it is today could not win WW II.

Posted by: Eromero at March 18, 2019 08:14 PM (qBNEP)

220 Hey Jane.. how's your back?

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 18, 2019 08:11 PM (dUJdY)

I just did a funeral reception for over 100 people. It hurts. And then last week I fell and broke my stupid tailbone.

You're sweet for asking. How are you, hon?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 08:14 PM (ptqGC)

221 The sidebar link about the exploding meteor is odd. It says the explosion was detected by "infrared" stations, but if you go to their link, it says infrasound.
Posted by: Chris M at March 18, 2019 08:13 PM (6XZdO)

It makes sense if you have synesthesia.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 18, 2019 08:15 PM (t+qrx)

222 I don't know if it applies here but I hope he'll be able to prove that Twitter is a publisher because of their obvious editorial policies and not a carrier despite the carrier law being applied (misapplied!!!) in their case.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2019 08:15 PM (Dh1wo)

223 never, ever , heard one Holocaust survivor say the were stressed.

Fuck you, you useless pantywaists.

I never accept any one of my customers using that word. Try Harder.

Posted by: Ben Had at M

not sure that makes sense. why would they ever complain about being stressed? you make it through the holocaust everything is easy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 08:15 PM (MTjB1)

224 Jane D'oh

I hear you. The Marines consider themselves the Men's Department of the Armed Force, and the Air Force is just one of the 7 uniformed services.

A tad unfair. But it is easy to get agreement from Army, Navy and Marines on the Air Force.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 18, 2019 08:15 PM (u82oZ)

225 vendors are wonderful guys sometimes.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 08:12 PM (MTjB1)

--------

Heh. I knew a guy who was a successful salesman for ultra high end printing equipment... printers that were a million on the low end.

When he had clients in town, it was just Ferrari rentals, flake yayo, and Slavic hookers all the way down.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 18, 2019 08:16 PM (A0EjZ)

226 lots of generations had it much harder but in some ways that is to their benefit. having lots of guys that made it through ww2 running your country is a strength.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 08:16 PM (MTjB1)

227 You're sweet for asking. How are you, hon?

Eh... hate to be whiner but things could be better right now. My dream of going part time next month got shattered so I'm kind of bummed.

Hope that tailbone heals quickly. Hurt mine several times and it's an awful pain.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 18, 2019 08:17 PM (dUJdY)

228 Got the Bullshed tune-up duties tonight. I love my job!

Posted by: THE Dickface Rick Wilson at March 18, 2019 08:18 PM (yhf6w)

229 y5, I probably could have stated that better but the use of that word torches me to ridicule anyone that uses it.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 18, 2019 08:18 PM (l4G13)

230 A lot of Holocaust survivors had stress about food. It was a common behavior to hide food everywhere, in all kinds of weird places. My grandmother had a friend like that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 18, 2019 08:18 PM (A0EjZ)

231 jane, tailbone? Ouch. fractured coxyx when hit by a truck, m'self.

Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at March 18, 2019 08:18 PM (hWuep)

232 Heh. I knew a guy who was a successful salesman for ultra high end printing equipment... printers that were a million on the low end.

When he had clients in town, it was just Ferrari rentals, flake yayo, and Slavic hookers all the way down.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at M

when first out of college was working for huge finance firm. every so often the memo about not entertaining certain clients in certain ways would make the rounds. when I asked my boss what that meant he said hookers come out of his bonus.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 08:19 PM (MTjB1)

233 Every day millions of people suffer with stress. We need to stop our stress now. Please help us to stop our stress now!

Brought to you by:

SOS

and

Posted by: The Sad Council at March 18, 2019 08:19 PM (UdKB7)

234 The suit is a means. It's a tool. Twitter is going to take the very defense you mentioned above...but...Ooops...there are so many examples of the contrary that shows them controlling content and, indirectly the contributors to the forum. Each and every one will be showcased on public record.

I don't think Nunes has any intention of collecting. He's just going to take a sledge hammer to Twitter.

Bonus: Wait until he files a complaint with the FEC indicating that certain democrats received the equivalent to "in kind" contributions directly from Twitter (via their selective application of their user policy). The same applies to Google (who admitted in emails to have tried to get Clinton elected)...who, also, provided in-kind contributions to the Clinton campaign. Non-reported.

No sir, this isn't a lark. This is step one in taking down the whole she-bang.

Posted by: Orson at March 18, 2019 08:20 PM (uWerq)

235 Eh... hate to be whiner but things could be better
right now. My dream of going part time next month got shattered so I'm
kind of bummed.

Hope that tailbone heals quickly. Hurt mine several times and it's an awful pain.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 18, 2019 08:17 PM (dUJdY)

Oh, no! I hope your dream comes to fruition. Will keep you in my prayers.

I'm a total klutz. I fell about three years ago and broke my tailbone. Took about 6 mos. to heal. Hoping it heals quickly. But I have friends dealing with way worse things. So having a painful butt seems small. Ish.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 18, 2019 08:20 PM (ptqGC)

236 >>Something that worries and confuses me is that Brennan was very happy with the choice of Haspell, no?

Hard to say. He was supportive after she was announced but I'm not sure he had much choice.

I think Brennan believed he had his tracks covered when she was announced. Notice how quiet he has become lately?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 08:22 PM (/tuJf)

237 sure you are furious when he comes home with lipstick on his collar, but how much more furious would you be if he came home with cum on his collar?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 18, 2019 08:22 PM (MTjB1)

238 Nood CNN

Posted by: hogmartin at March 18, 2019 08:22 PM (t+qrx)

239 YD, I would call that a keen sense of survival and were they terrified about it - yes.

Using the word stress as in - wow my day is like not going the way I like want it is a world apart.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 18, 2019 08:22 PM (l4G13)

240 End your stress now by jumping into a volcano. As a plus, you won't stress anybody else out either.

Brought to you by:

Posted by: The Bad Council at March 18, 2019 08:23 PM (UdKB7)

241 Notice how quiet he has become lately?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 18, 2019 08:22 PM (/tuJf)
~~~~~

Yep. I check his Twitter feed every day, and there's been nothing for a few weeks now.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 18, 2019 08:24 PM (NtglE)

242 Bow-chick-a-wow-wow

*breaks out speedos, mirrored Ray Bans and stick-on porn 'stache*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 18, 2019 07:45 PM

This place....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 18, 2019 08:25 PM (vZrbf)

243 I would call that a keen sense of survival and were they terrified about it - yes.

Using the word stress as in - wow my day is like not going the way I like want it is a world apart.

--------

Yeah... I guess a state of unshakable existential dread is a bit more severe than "stress."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 18, 2019 08:25 PM (A0EjZ)

244 Twitter will also ban you for using a tranny's original, birth name instead of their new name.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 18, 2019 08:26 PM (Dh1wo)

245 If they're taking what they want from you (data, eyes for its sponsored posts) and not giving you what they've promised in return (publicly communicating with the world) -- that is either fraud or breach of contract or both.

--

Facebook has a clever and disturbing approach. I've seen it with my own eyes.

You're banned, but your posts show up everywhere you try to post. Except they're not. Not really. They show up on YOUR screen, and they're persistent and remain when you leave and come back, but no one else can see the posts.

You wonder why no one else is responding to you, and the reason is you're a ghost.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - search engine expert at March 18, 2019 08:45 PM (xyung)

246 I hope more people follow Nunes' lead.

Posted by: Sue Likethewind at March 18, 2019 08:51 PM (11H2y)

247 Facebook has a clever and disturbing approach. I've seen it with my own eyes.

You're banned, but your posts show up everywhere you try to post. Except they're not. Not really. They show up on YOUR screen, and they're persistent and remain when you leave and come back, but no one else can see the posts.

You wonder why no one else is responding to you, and the reason is you're a ghost.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - search engine expert at March 18, 2019 08:45 PM (xyung)

just get a throwdown account and peek at your posts for validation.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 18, 2019 09:00 PM (FTPn0)

248 Oldcat I'm assuming directly violating a law like that would be easy to discover and prove and ruinous for the perps (the companies). Their lawyers wouldn't let them do it. It could sink a compnay. IF big teeth were put into opt-in being the only lawful mode.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 18, 2019 07:53 PM (QDnY+)

Google has been discovered keeping and using tracking information even if you opt out of them keeping it.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 18, 2019 09:06 PM (FTPn0)

249 I am a bull dyke lesbian in a man's body. What am I supposed to do?

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