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Brexit Is An Obsession With The British Media The Way Trump Derangement Syndrome Is With The American Media

The dysfunction in the UK political system is unbelievable. I think they took a look at the U.S. Congress and thought, "Hold my beer!"

Had they simply obeyed the will of the people after the referendum in June of 2016, the current ridiculous mess would never have happened. Sure, there would have been a few months of bureaucrats frantically proclaiming the end of the world because milk carton labeling was non-standard and salt shakers had different sized holes, but the UK and the EU would have figured it out.

What the elites in Parliament don't understand (and our "elites" are no different) is that the purpose of Brexit was an expression of dissatisfaction with being ruled from afar. It had very little to do with finance and business dealings and streamlined customs procedures. Those are trivial in comparison to the desire of the people of the United Kingdom to shake off the yoke of EU control, and return to an independent country.

But the media in the UK is all in on gutting Brexit, and that means obstructing the will of the people. They can't let anyone express pro-Brexit sentiments, and criticism of the EU is simply unacceptable, even from one of the grand old men of England!

Take a look at Roger Daltry below the fold...

Posted by: CBD at 02:15 PM




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1 Hi

Posted by: Sixkiller at March 17, 2019 02:21 PM (KZ+PR)

2 They have a wonderful term of art for a Brexit that doesn't slave the UK to the EU forever, they call it 'crashing out' which of course is bullshit. Basically it's called 'taking back sovereignty'.

Posted by: JEM at March 17, 2019 02:21 PM (8erNz)

3 1st!

Posted by: Sixkiller at March 17, 2019 02:21 PM (KZ+PR)

4 It's really not that hard. Bid the EU adieu and GTFO. Everything else is noise.

Posted by: Sixkiller at March 17, 2019 02:24 PM (KZ+PR)

5 Hello? Is this thing on?

Posted by: Sixkiller at March 17, 2019 02:24 PM (KZ+PR)

6 "But Knowing I am so eager to fight, can't make letting me in any easier".

Posted by: Marcus T at March 17, 2019 02:25 PM (VkWRL)

7 The dumb proles have to be shown the way, or else they'll go off and do who knows what.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 02:25 PM (TIuFZ)

8 Get rid of the MP's the same way we should rid ourselves of Congress idiots.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 17, 2019 02:26 PM (VkWRL)

9 the purpose of Brexit was an expression of dissatisfaction with being ruled from afar.

I have some suggestions.

Posted by: zombie George Washington at March 17, 2019 02:26 PM (LL1Be)

10 Willowed re 9/11 hijackers

I heard recently that two of them were pulled over in a traffic stop shortly before crashing the planes and nothing happened to them over their expired visas because sanctuary city rules or something similar.

One or both were the pilots

Posted by: Moron Robbie, search engine expert at March 17, 2019 02:28 PM (xyung)

11 The Brits deserve whatever happens to them. They fought two wars against the Germans, then surrendered their sovereignty without a shot to be part of a union in which Germany wields enormous influence.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at March 17, 2019 02:29 PM (H5knJ)

12 I heard recently that two of them were pulled over in a traffic stop shortly before crashing the planes and nothing happened to them over their expired visas because sanctuary city rules or something similar.

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A small price for allowing us to revel in the rich tapestry of diversity.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 02:30 PM (TIuFZ)

13 Well, the walls are closing in/this about wraps it up for/the wheels are coming off Brexit.

Posted by: Maduro at March 17, 2019 02:30 PM (oVJmc)

14 It always astonishes me how utterly arrogant and tone-deaf the Brussels bureaucrats are when discussing Brexit. They go out of their way to be officious, obnoxious and condescending. They appear not to be able to grasp that this is part of the reason Britain wants to leave.

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2019 02:30 PM (T6t7i)

15 This is how democracy dies.

And yes the left here is also in on it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2019 02:32 PM (Y+V3r)

16 It sure doesn't help when the head of gubmint there, May, is a Remainer.

It's almost as if, get this, her heart isn't in it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 17, 2019 02:33 PM (Z4rgH)

17 Everything I read makes connections between Brexit and President Trump, both Parliament and Congress are fighting them the same way.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 02:35 PM (BbGew)

18 They seem to want to browbeat the populace into overturning the election. I guess that is similar to what is going on here except we actually got some results. The UK media is going all in to browbeat people and hope for a second chance for Remain. They get two chances instead of one and only need to win once, then it will be over.

And from afar, May makes Major look effective by comparison.

Posted by: Quint at March 17, 2019 02:36 PM (n13/j)

19 OMG is Roger getting old

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 02:36 PM (BbGew)

20 In the UK, as here, it's the soi-disant "elites" and the media vs. the people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:36 PM (gHApq)

21 I just read where Washington state legislators are passing a law to keep federal presidential candidates off their state ballot unless the federal candidate releases his last five years of federal tax returns.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, search engine expert at March 17, 2019 02:37 PM (xyung)

22 16 It sure doesn't help when the head of gubmint there, May, is a Remainer.

It's almost as if, get this, her heart isn't in it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 17, 2019 02:33 PM (Z4rgH)

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Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney and Zombie John McCain would like to discuss their plans for a border wall with you.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 02:37 PM (TIuFZ)

23 14 It always astonishes me how utterly arrogant and tone-deaf the Brussels bureaucrats are when discussing Brexit. They go out of their way to be officious, obnoxious and condescending. They appear not to be able to grasp that this is part of the reason Britain wants to leave.
Posted by: pep at March 17, 2019 02:30 PM (T6t7i)


I've had the same thought. You'd think, in the circumstances, that the Brussels bureaucrats would pull in their horns a bit and make nice. But then you'd be wrong. They seem to delight in going out of their way to make the argument for Brexit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:38 PM (gHApq)

24
Brexit related.

In the year 2000 there were X number of factories in this country. Run by some very intelligent people no doubt. Ten years later there were 60,000 fewer factories. Five million fewer people employed in manufacturing.

Our Senators are fighting tooth and nail to either get Trump out of office or keep him from getting reelected. Someone needs to follow the money those sons-of-bitches either got or are getting for shipping all those factories and jobs all around the planet. Heard of Trans-Pacific Partnership since Trump took office? Funny that.

It's a damn shame our media has no interest in the story. Only in labeling people as 'deplorable' that got so thoroughly screwed.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 17, 2019 02:38 PM (jYje5)

25
So, it's a question of national sovereignty vs. Macron and Merkel. Tough call.

Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2019 02:39 PM (Pqytn)

26 21 I just read where Washington state legislators are passing a law to keep federal presidential candidates off their state ballot unless the federal candidate releases his last five years of federal tax returns.
Posted by: Moron Robbie, search engine expert at March 17, 2019 02:37 PM (xyung)


How can that possibly be Constitutional?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:39 PM (gHApq)

27 the british media and some m.p.'s have also manufactured a collusion smear against brexit and nigel farage, saying they're funded by putin and are committing treasonous crimes. farage mentions it at the end of an excellent video interview available on youtube discussing brexit, the brit establishment, the e.u. democracy, independence, immigration, trump and the u.s.:

"nigel farage on the brendan o'neill show - the b betrayal of brexit and what to do about it"

i mentioned this before. fortunately i'm still around to mention it again - highly recommended.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 17, 2019 02:40 PM (Pg+x7)

28 He famously said he hoped he died before he got old, well he didn't get his wish, hope he sees the that was idiotic.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 02:40 PM (BbGew)

29 There is some truly insane, absurd crap being said, with deadly earnest, by high ranking officials and major news organizations over there. Brexit will kill millions. Brexit will cause famine and starvation. Brexit will turn the UK into Somalia. There's literally no insane theory that is too radical to consider or express.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:41 PM (39g3+)

30 So, it's a question of national sovereignty vs. Macron and Merkel. Tough call.
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2019 02:39 PM (Pqytn)


Maricon, Merkel, and May. Three of the most useless wankers on the planet. And not a child between them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:41 PM (gHApq)

31 22 16 It sure doesn't help when the head of gubmint there, May, is a Remainer.

It's almost as if, get this, her heart isn't in it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 17, 2019 02:33 PM (Z4rgH)

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Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney and Zombie John McCain would like to discuss their plans for a border wall with you.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 02:37 PM (TIuFZ)


And they would also like to import more Muslims, build more mosques, and condemn anyone who opposes it as a "white nationalist" and take their guns.

Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 02:41 PM (sdi6R)

32 How can that possibly be Constitutional?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:39 PM (gHApq)

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Orangemanbad clause, just after the bit about abortion and right before the part about bullets.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, search engine expert at March 17, 2019 02:41 PM (xyung)

33 16 It sure doesn't help when the head of gubmint there, May, is a Remainer.

It's almost as if, get this, her heart isn't in it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 17, 2019 02:33 PM (Z4rgH)

I was astonished when the Tories named her as head of party/PM. But what Labour have on offer (Corbyn or whoever replaces him) is much worse.

Tell the Frogs and Bosches to sod off, and leave. The EU is either the Third Empire or the Fourth Reich, the French and Germans just haven't decided which yet. The Brits shouldn't want any part of that.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 17, 2019 02:41 PM (MwFQu)

34 Okay, I've worked out a great deal, boys and girls -- We get to suck EU cock for the next 50 years AND pay them for the privilege...

Whaddya mean, No? Alright, I've renegotiated with them, and they've agreed to twice daily cocksuckings for 45 years, and we still have to pay them monthly...

Wut the fuck? There's just no pleasing you assholes.

Posted by: Theresa May at March 17, 2019 02:41 PM (Z4rgH)

35 26 As far as I know Jersey did it already.
And as if Democrats are squeaky clean in that department.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 02:42 PM (BbGew)

36 How can that possibly be Constitutional?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:39 PM (gHApq)

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Yep. A state preventing its citizens from voting for selected national candidates.

This one is sure to keep the random Hawaiian judges awake at night trying to figure out how to uphold it if it will hurt Trump.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 02:42 PM (TIuFZ)

37 Brexit will turn the UK into Somalia Minnesota.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:42 PM (gHApq)

38 The establishment in the UK have three choices in order of desire:

1) deny Brexit entirely and stay in the EU
2) create a Brexit agreement that leaves the UK basically in the EU but pretends to get out
3) Make the exit so godawful and miserable that it prevents any other nation from even considering the option.

Because they want the EU more than the souls of their own children, and they will do anything they can to stay in, despite the furious demands of the people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:42 PM (39g3+)

39 Tell the Frogs and Bosches to sod off ...

And their Belgie lapdogs, as well.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 17, 2019 02:42 PM (MwFQu)

40 Was probably already said by many, but I think the point bears emphasis.
Post the massacre in NZ, everyone talks of "the climate of hate" due to "anti immigrant rhetoric."

Hold aside that "hate" and "hate crimes" are as easy (and subjective) to define and measure as the pungency of unicorn farts year over year. The larger point is that, even accepting a correlation between "hate crimes" and "anti immigrant rhetoric" (if that's what you want to call it) assumes a causal relationship between those two things, in that order.

I think the much more common sense explanation for any such correlation is a common cause: too much immigration breeds too much social tension between actually trod upon natives and their would-be replacement citizens.

In the mix, you will also have "anti immigrant rhetoric" (again, generously, if that's what you want to call it). But the rhetoric didn't cause the problem of too much immigration for a society to swallow peacefully, but is actually the more legitimate reaction than anti immigrant violence, by those people who still hope to change course peacefully.

We are in many ways living out the much vilified "Rivers of Blood" speech from Enoch Powell. He was a broad target, and his rhetoric seemed entirely over the top when the UK, Western Europe and US were still not "transforming" (or transformed) by mass immigration from the Third World.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at March 17, 2019 02:42 PM (jlX7q)

41 On the bright side, given time and the inclinations of the left, the EU will implode on it's own

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2019 02:42 PM (Y+V3r)

42 How can that possibly be Constitutional?
It isn't.

Posted by: Maduro at March 17, 2019 02:43 PM (oVJmc)

43 How can that possibly be Constitutional?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:39 PM (gHApq)

IIRC states control the elections .

Feds control the electorate.

See FLA.

Posted by: golfman at March 17, 2019 02:44 PM (OE84+)

44 I was astonished when the Tories named her as head of party/PM. But what Labour have on offer (Corbyn or whoever replaces him) is much worse.

It's very much like here. Tories ~ GOPe. Labour ~ Democrats ~ Communists.

They really need another Thatcher come kick some ass. Choosing May as PM was utter madness. She lacks every quality you'd look for in a leader. Every. Single. One.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:44 PM (gHApq)

45 On the bright side, given time and the inclinations of the left, the EU will implode on it's own

Yeah, but the people of the UK don't want to be dragged down with it, and justifiably so.

The EU is literally every radical leftist's wet dream in action. People are elected to choose people who rule over every nation in it with unquestioned, absolute power. Those people who get into the position of power are inevitably the most radical leftists imaginable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:44 PM (39g3+)

46 "But the media in the UK is all in on gutting Brexit, and that means obstructing the will of the people."


It's more than just gutting Brexit, it's about stopping it. Which is what they (the media and the politicians) are going to do.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 17, 2019 02:44 PM (4thlk)

47 I'll say this for our Leftist Dems: When the Mexican Narcos buy them, they STAY bought.

Posted by: Blutarski at March 17, 2019 02:45 PM (+Tibp)

48 IIRC states control the elections .

The states cannot institute barriers to candidacy beyond the Constitution.

Posted by: Maduro at March 17, 2019 02:45 PM (oVJmc)

49 Old, though apt, sock.

Posted by: Maduro at March 17, 2019 02:45 PM (oVJmc)

50 Sigh.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 17, 2019 02:46 PM (oVJmc)

51 29 There is some truly insane, absurd crap being said,
with deadly earnest, by high ranking officials and major news
organizations over there. Brexit will kill millions. Brexit will cause
famine and starvation. Brexit will turn the UK into Somalia. There's
literally no insane theory that is too radical to consider or express.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:41 PM (39g3+)

Just win baby!. The Dems over here showed them the way, and likely are advising them for real People talk about interference, but I recall Dems advising Brit elections for years like with Blair.

Posted by: Quint at March 17, 2019 02:46 PM (n13/j)

52

Roger sounds like a bell boy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2019 02:46 PM (aKsyK)

53 Maricon, Merkel, and May. Three of the most useless wankers on the planet. And not a child between them.

No children, no grandchildren, no investment in the future in this world. They're probably, at best, only nominal Believers, so they have no investment in the Next, either.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 17, 2019 02:46 PM (MwFQu)

54 IIRC states control the elections .

Posted by: golfman at March 17, 2019 02:44 PM (OE84+)


The administration of elections, sure. But deciding who can and who cannot be on the ballot? WTF? Could the legislature pass a bill that a candidate cannot be on the ballot unless the candidate supports Gerbil Warming? Or something equally ridiculous?

Then they'd effectively be dictating the outcome of the election to the electorate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:47 PM (gHApq)

55 Posted by: Maduro

Pink mist solution, amigo.

You'll never hear it coming.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 17, 2019 02:47 PM (LL1Be)

56 40
We are in many ways living out the much vilified "Rivers of Blood" speech from Enoch Powell. He was a broad target, and his rhetoric seemed entirely over the top when the UK, Western Europe and US were still not "transforming" (or transformed) by mass immigration from the Third World.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at March 17, 2019 02:42 PM (jlX7q)


I've said it before. Enoch Powell was a goddamn prophet.

Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 02:48 PM (sdi6R)

57 Roger sounds like a bell boy.

Bell Boy, I got to get running now
Bell Boy, keep my lip buttoned down
Bell Boy, carry this baggage out
Bell Boy, always running at someone's pleading heel
You know how I feel
Always running at someone's heel

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:48 PM (39g3+)

58 44 "they need another thatcher..."

they need a trump. boris johnson?

thing is, after that second vote in parliament forbidding a hard brexit, effectively keeping the u.k. in the e.u. forever, it will now take a new brexit majority. and brexit p.m., to vote themselves out.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 17, 2019 02:48 PM (Pg+x7)

59 The English have had civil wars about every hundred or so years through their history, they're kinda due. This keeps up and we might see it happen again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:49 PM (39g3+)

60 The EU is literally every radical leftist's wet dream in action. People are elected to choose people who rule over every nation in it with unquestioned, absolute power. Those people who get into the position of power are inevitably the most radical leftists imaginable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:44 PM (39g3+)


Once the EU consolidates power in a single state, we should invade, take over, and make all of Europe a province. Sort of a Great Europia Co-Prosperity Sphere and run it right.

If we do it on a weekend, their military will be at home.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:49 PM (gHApq)

61 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Heh. I was just thinking of that song.

Posted by: Blutarski at March 17, 2019 02:50 PM (+Tibp)

62 Maricon, Merkel, and May. Three of the most useless wankers on the planet.
Posted by: Maduro

You can toss that old sock in this pile, Mr. P.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 17, 2019 02:50 PM (LL1Be)

63 like being governed by fifa.....lol.....says it all

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 17, 2019 02:50 PM (0O7c5)

64 they need a trump. boris johnson?

Boris Johnson badly blotted his copybook early on in Brexit, by not having the balls to go for it, and instead shilly-shallying around.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:50 PM (gHApq)

65 On the bright side, given time and the inclinations of the left, the EU will implode on it's own

Yeah, but the people of the UK don't want to be dragged down with it, and justifiably so.

Yes absolutley. But as They said in Animal Houses: " They fucked up, They trusted the EU" . They never should have joined

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2019 02:51 PM (Y+V3r)

66 I've said it before. Enoch Powell was a goddamn prophet.
Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 02:48 PM (sdi6R)


He really was.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:51 PM (gHApq)

67 shilly-shallying around.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:50 PM (gHApq)

Like the wording on that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2019 02:51 PM (Y+V3r)

68 "Boris Johnson badly blotted his copybook early on in Brexit, by not having the balls to go for it, and instead shilly-shallying around."

I do NOT shilly-shally around. I have been known to dilly-dally about. Get it right. Sod.

Posted by: Boris Johnson at March 17, 2019 02:51 PM (jlX7q)

69 Yes absolutley. But as They said in Animal Houses: " They fucked up, They trusted the EU" . They never should have joined

Thatcher tried to keep them out, and managed to work out a deal where they kept their own currency -- a huge advantage to leaving -- but even her ghost can't keep the establishment left from screwing over the people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:52 PM (39g3+)

70 I do NOT shilly-shally around. I have been known to dilly-dally about. Get it right. Sod.
Posted by: Boris Johnson at March 17, 2019 02:51 PM (jlX7q)


Numpty.

(this is the funny British words thread now, yeah?)

Posted by: hogmartin at March 17, 2019 02:53 PM (t+qrx)

71 On the bright side, given time and the inclinations of the left, the EU will implode on it's own

Yeah, but the people of the UK don't want to be dragged down with it, and justifiably so.


I don't get why any Brits want to stay in the EU, when they've seen what happened with the euro. They dodged a bullet there on the currency front; why would they even entertain the corresponding political/ economic policy?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:53 PM (gHApq)

72 Holy Carp, I missed a fishing thread.
anyways, luck of the Irish to everybody.
Especially those stupid stupid Brits.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 17, 2019 02:53 PM (r+sAi)

73 In a way you have to understand their confidence. These are the same people who were able to decide that mentally ill men could use the girls room in buildings 3,000 miles away.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, search engine expert at March 17, 2019 02:53 PM (xyung)

74 The establishment in the UK have three choices in order of desire:

1) deny Brexit entirely and stay in the EU
2) create a Brexit agreement that leaves the UK basically in the EU but pretends to get out
3) Make the exit so godawful and miserable that it prevents any other nation from even considering the option.

Because they want the EU more than the souls of their own children, and they will do anything they can to stay in, despite the furious demands of the people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:42 PM (39g3+)




Or they can do it the Trumpian way and just simply exit. They can do it in one day.

Trump has a trade deal ready for the New Great Britain.

Britain, just say no to EU.

Posted by: Nancy Reagan channel at March 17, 2019 02:54 PM (ePWRo)

75 The Britganistan gets what they deserve. They wanted in on a too good to be true BS scam.

They wanted in, they got in. They ain't voting their way out. There is only one way out, and they don't have the sack for it.

Enjoy your cuckadrome you wankers.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 17, 2019 02:54 PM (Z+IKu)

76 "thing is, after that second vote in parliament forbidding a hard brexit,
effectively keeping the u.k. in the e.u. forever, it will now take a
new brexit majority. and brexit p.m., to vote themselves out."


Yep, they basically cockblocked themselves from ever leaving. They are never going to make a serious attempt to make a deal now.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 17, 2019 02:54 PM (4thlk)

77 I don't get why any Brits want to stay in the EU, when they've seen what happened with the euro.

Upon the vote to leave the EU, the pound plunged in value as well, as currency speculators like Soros rushed to punish the UK for daring to defy their leftist overlords

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:54 PM (39g3+)

78 I do NOT shilly-shally around. I have been known to dilly-dally about. Get it right. Sod.
Posted by: Boris Johnson at March 17, 2019 02:51 PM (jlX7q)


Nah. You bottled out on Brexit. Berk.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:55 PM (gHApq)

79 Where have you gone, Maggie Thatcher
Oh, a nation turns it's lonely eyes to you.
Woo hoo hoo
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson
The Iron Lady's left and gone away
Hey hey hey

Posted by: xnycpeasant at March 17, 2019 02:55 PM (jlX7q)

80 59 The English have had civil wars about every hundred or so years through their history, they're kinda due. This keeps up and we might see it happen again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:49 PM (39g3+)

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My personal favorite was The Anarchy, followed closely by the Wars of the Roses.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 02:56 PM (TIuFZ)

81 Or they can do it the Trumpian way and just simply exit. They can do it in one day.

Oh they CAN, but that's not what their politicians want to do. I mean its a bit of negotiating because they have to work out new trade deals and transportation deals and border crossing agreements, etc. The EU claims that Britain will owe them x amount of money if they leave because they promised! But the UK doesn't really owe them jack, having propped up the stupid thing for decades.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:56 PM (39g3+)

82 "Or they can do it the Trumpian way and just simply exit. They can do it in one day."

They can't anymore. They just voted against any hard exit.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 17, 2019 02:56 PM (4thlk)

83 Ole Pete eased out, didn't he?

Posted by: golfman at March 17, 2019 02:57 PM (OE84+)

84 Upon the vote to leave the EU, the pound plunged in value as well, as currency speculators like Soros rushed to punish the UK for daring to defy their leftist overlords
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 02:54 PM (39g3+)


Yep, but I view that as a temporary dislocation. So the FOREX traders were on board with the EU. To me, that's kind of like that idiot Krugman predicted that the NYSE would collapse for foreseeable future when Trump was elected.

Notice how whenever there's any pushback on Red proposals, they get hysterical with doom and gloom predictions? "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:57 PM (gHApq)

85 The EU claims that Britain will owe them x amount of money if they leave because they promised!

"We lied."- UK

PS: "What are you pussies going to do about it?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:58 PM (gHApq)

86 Boris Johnson badly blotted his copybook early on in Brexit, by not having the balls to go for it, and instead shilly-shallying around

Boris was not the most ardent of brexiteers, but he was shivved by Michael Gove. Boris is also regarded as a bit of a loose cannon by the Tory upper crust.

Posted by: JEM at March 17, 2019 02:58 PM (8erNz)

87 The EU claims that Britain will owe them x amount of money if they leave because they promised!

"Ever hear of perfidious Albion? Well, now you have."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:59 PM (gHApq)

88
They wanted in, they got in. They ain't voting their way out. There is only one way out, and they don't have the sack for it.

https://youtu.be/Pn0WdJx-Wkw

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2019 02:59 PM (aKsyK)

89 the Dow futures plunged when Trump won but it didn't last long. I
wonder what would happen if in the US we had an election and the winning
side did not prevail. How would that go?


I can't believe the UK public allows it's own vote to be basically
scrubbed. The soy levels are so high I can't even imagine them leaving
as a free and prosperous independent nation.

Posted by: Quint at March 17, 2019 03:00 PM (n13/j)

90 As said earlier there was a date, late this month or so if they did nothing it was just walk away like a get out of jail date no parole.
May tried to make it a probation that they stayed in more or less but paid heavily for that privilege.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 03:01 PM (BbGew)

91 Notice how whenever there's any pushback on Red proposals, they get hysterical with doom and gloom predictions? "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:57 PM (gHApq)


They mean for themselves, the only people who matter. When they gush about the shining future or shriek about the unthinkable consequences, there's always that little unvoiced asterisk at the end.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 17, 2019 03:01 PM (t+qrx)

92 84
Notice how whenever there's any pushback on Red proposals, they get hysterical with doom and gloom predictions? "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:57 PM (gHApq)


We'll be dead in 12 years!
--AOC

I heard a recording of Beta O'Rourke in which he turned the drama up to 11. He said that climate scientists were "unanimous" which no one else has ever claimed before.

Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 03:02 PM (sdi6R)

93


I heard a recording of Beta O'Rourke in which he turned the drama up
to 11. He said that climate scientists were "unanimous" which no one
else has ever claimed before.


No True Climate Scientist.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 17, 2019 03:03 PM (oVJmc)

94 Yep, but I view that as a temporary dislocation. So the FOREX traders were on board with the EU. To me, that's kind of like that idiot Krugman predicted that the NYSE would collapse for foreseeable future when Trump was elected.

Notice how whenever there's any pushback on Red proposals, they get hysterical with doom and gloom predictions? "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 02:57 PM (gHA

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Enron Adviser Krugman, who correctly predicted 8 of the last 2 recessions.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:03 PM (ffYR/)

95 All the prominent Brexit pundits understand what just happened after the "no hard exit" vote. Brexit is dead. Nigel Farage, David Starkey, Sargon of Akkad, etc., etc. are all resigned to that. It's what happens next that's up for debate. I don't expect much, the people have no place to move so they'll just resign themselves to the fact they no longer have a say in how they're ruled.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 17, 2019 03:05 PM (4thlk)

96 the Dow futures plunged when Trump won but it didn't last long.

I think that, much like the situation with the pound, that results from uncertainty more than from a vote of no confidence.

It's why Barky's economy sucked. Business also had no confidence in him, but the economy struggled because no one knew what the Mulatto Mediocrity was going to do next, so businessmen hunkered down to wait and see.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:05 PM (gHApq)

97 I think the much more common sense explanation for any such correlation is a common cause: too much immigration breeds too much social tension between actually trod upon natives and their would-be replacement citizens.

basically what Enoch said too. Back then, though, the numbers were much smaller, and the immigrants (largely) not from the religion of peace.

Posted by: exdemocrat at March 17, 2019 03:06 PM (GmndG)

98 I heard a recording of Beta O'Rourke in which he
turned the drama up to 11. He said that climate scientists were
"unanimous" which no one else has ever claimed before.


Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 03:02 PM

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He was never a serious candidate even when he was running for Senate. He just listened to the voices of the left and the media and bought their hype.


That along with a cool $100,000,000 in mostly out of State money in addition to having nearly everyone believing that he was a hispanic almost snagged him a win. Ain't gonna happen this time around.


Plus cruz never really turned up the heat and really got out and campaigned.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 17, 2019 03:08 PM (JUOKG)

99 95 iowandslow: "just resigned to the fact they no longer have any say in how they're ruled..."

yup. that's what's at stake.

do see the video nigel farage brendan o'neill show. they discuss this.

did i mention that again? last time, promise.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 17, 2019 03:09 PM (Pg+x7)

100 All the prominent Brexit pundits understand what just happened after the "no hard exit" vote. Brexit is dead. Nigel Farage, David Starkey, Sargon of Akkad, etc., etc. are all resigned to that. It's what happens next that's up for debate

"Muddling through" is a long Brit tradition. In part, I suspect, because they have an almost constitutional (in the personal sense, not political) aversion to making crisp decisions.

"Yesterday we did X, tomorrow we're going to do Yinstead," is not in their repertoire.

They're approach is more like, "Yesterday we did X, tomorrow we'll an option to do a bit of Y, but we'll keep X as well for those who planned on X ..."

It's how English common law evolved: the power of precedent there is enormous, and not just in the law.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:09 PM (gHApq)

101
I'm convinced that the EU thing is really just that the Frogs and the Sausage-suckers think they can dominate the US economically, morally, militarily and culturally, if only they could band together.

In fact, on all four fronts the US could squash them like a bug, and they damned well know it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2019 03:10 PM (veoSD)

102 Enron Adviser Krugman, who correctly predicted 8 of the last 2 recessions.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:03 PM (ffYR/)


Eventually, if he keeps predicting them, he'll get one right, and then will be insufferable, and the leftists will be touting his acumen to the skies.

Blind groundhog, acorn, etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:12 PM (gHApq)

103

Beto/Buttigieg

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2019 03:12 PM (aKsyK)

104 I'll link again to our flagpole on the day of the Brexit vote. It was rather overcast:
http://tinyurl.com/y3m8q5b6

I was doing yard work, and a lady walking her dog stopped to complain about the flag. "It's racist", she said.

*?*

I told her that my family was from Yorkshire, and I found nothing racist about it, could she explain?

That produced a puzzled look from her, "Yorkshire?"

"England", I explained, "It's a Union Jack, the British flag."

"Oh...oh...", says she, "I thought it was a Confederate flag."

I did not tell her that I fly the Bonnie Blue flag on Confederate Memorial day. She wouldn't know what it is anyhow.

I recall a Biblical imperative regarding the casting of pearls before swine.




Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:13 PM (xSo9G)

105
the Dow futures plunged when Trump won but it didn't last long.

Posted by: Quint at March 17, 2019 03:00 PM


I remember 2:30 in the morning, day after the voting. Pennsylvania had just gone for Trump minutes before and it's over. They started loudly beating the drum about Dow futures and my wife wakes up. She has a little nest egg (now gone) in the market and asks me what I think.

I laughed at her. Go back to bed, I told her. Everything is great.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 17, 2019 03:14 PM (jYje5)

106 Enron Adviser Krugman, who correctly predicted 8 of the last 2 recessions.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:03 PM (ffYR/)

Eventually, if he keeps predicting them, he'll get one right, and then will be insufferable, and the leftists will be touting his acumen to the skies.

Blind groundhog, acorn, etc.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:12 PM (gHApq)

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Yep, that was my point. This has already occurred.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:14 PM (ffYR/)

107 101 That was my thinking when they started.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 03:14 PM (BbGew)

108 Enron Adviser Krugman, who correctly predicted 8 of the last 2 recessions.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
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Okay, I'm stealing that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:15 PM (xSo9G)

109 "You want to be governed by the f'ing mafia you go do it." LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2019 03:15 PM (AllCR)

110 I'm convinced that the EU thing is really just that the Frogs and the Sausage-suckers think they can dominate the US economically, morally, militarily and culturally, if only they could band together.

In fact, on all four fronts the US could squash them like a bug, and they damned well know it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2019 03:10 PM (veoSD)


This.

The whole idea of the EU was to create a super-state like the US, with open borders, common law, etc.

Unfortunately, different languages, customs, culture, work ethic, etc. and millennia of bitter internecine fighting pretty much guaranteed that there was no way this was going to work. It was the economic and geopolitical predecessor to HIGH. SPEED. RAIL., i.e., something all grownups recognized was going to be a non-starter from the get-go.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:15 PM (gHApq)

111 I heard a recording of Beta O'Rourke in which he turned the drama up to 11. He said that climate scientists were "unanimous" which no one else has ever claimed before.
Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 03:02 PM (sdi6R)

Did he wave his arms while declaring?

AOC has started to jump the shark. Roberto ain't far behind.

Kamala is their girl.

Watch and see.

Posted by: golfman at March 17, 2019 03:15 PM (OE84+)

112 100: jay: "the power of precedence there is enormous..."

that's a great observation.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 17, 2019 03:16 PM (Pg+x7)

113 I know the Stewarts gave up a lot of authority to the Parliament for the Restoration and then the Glorious Revolution, and Saxe-Gotha gave up even more for the nothingness that was "Empress of India. Has Liz quietly weighed in on this yet with her "First Lord of the Treasury"?

Posted by: Fox2! at March 17, 2019 03:17 PM (MwFQu)

114 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:13 PM (xSo9G)

And they think they're the smart ones.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:17 PM (gHApq)

115 I'm convinced that the EU thing is really just that the Frogs and the Sausage-suckers think they can dominate the US economically, morally, militarily and culturally, if only they could band together.

Sure, that's exactly what they have in mind. Its why the Euro was declared to be 4 dollars to the Euro at first, not because of any conceivable economic basis, but because the people manipulating markets demanded it be that way. donw to about $1.13 a Euro, which is still high, but getting saner.

The EU is determined to have a GDP of $16.49 trillion, that's all members combined.
The US is determined to have GDP of $18.62 trillion

whose currency should be worth more? As long as communist scumbag Bond villain toads like Soros have significant influence it will always be Euro because F the USA and Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 03:17 PM (39g3+)

116 Enron Adviser Krugman, who correctly predicted 8 of the last 2 recessions.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
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Okay, I'm stealing that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:15 PM (xSo9G)

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I stole it from someone else (can't recall who), so this is only fair.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:18 PM (ffYR/)

117 Brexit is dead. Nigel Farage, David Starkey, Sargon of Akkad, etc., etc. are all resigned to that. It's what happens next that's up for debate

So they beat us to it?

Posted by: golfman at March 17, 2019 03:19 PM (OE84+)

118 The 'Remoaners' share a similar level of insanity with NeverTurnipers. This dude is a Labor MP:

@DavidLammy

Brexit will not free us from the injustices of global capitalism, but make us subordinate to Trump's US.

If we remain, we can reform the EU. We can recharge the economy, re-fuel the NHS, build the houses we need.

We can restore hope to the UK after years of hurt.

***

Got that? He is explicitly stating that the EU is a fucking communist organization. And simultaneously, apparently, Trump is behind the scenes in the Brexit.

This is pathological. The kakistocracy is real and world-wide.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 17, 2019 03:20 PM (Hk+Y0)

119 105 the Dow futures plunged when Trump won but it didn't last long.



Posted by: Quint at March 17, 2019 03:00 PM



I remember 2:30 in the morning, day after the voting. Pennsylvania
had just gone for Trump minutes before and it's over. They started
loudly beating the drum about Dow futures and my wife wakes up. She has a
little nest egg (now gone) in the market and asks me what I think.



I laughed at her. Go back to bed, I told her. Everything is great.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 17, 2019 03:14 PM (jYje5)

And talking heads said it would never come back lol.

Posted by: Quint at March 17, 2019 03:20 PM (n13/j)

120 I heard a recording of Beta O'Rourke in which he turned the drama up to 11. He said that climate scientists were "unanimous" which no one else has ever claimed before.
Posted by: rickl
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Yes, I heard that too, "...unanimous....."

Well, okey dokey, I mean, if it is unanimous I guess that settles the question.

The guy displays all of the intellectual insight of a college freshman who has just exited a Howard Zinn lecture.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:21 PM (xSo9G)

121 Paul Krugman: always certain but rarely correct. Worst prophet ever.

His job is to give leftists plausible support for their theories, even if they continually are wrong. Krugman is a nobel prize winning economist and columnist for the vaunted New York Times, he says this, so you must be wrong!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 03:21 PM (39g3+)

122 Yep, that was my point. This has already occurred.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:14 PM (ffYR/)


Yep, you're absolutely right. I was thinking of his current predictions of an upcoming recession. Now we're arguably overdue for one, but hearing Krugman's prediction assuaged my concerns re the 2020 election. As long as the Fed doesn't get cute with more interest rate hikes ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:22 PM (gHApq)

123 The guy displays all of the intellectual insight of a college freshman who has just exited a Howard Zinn lecture.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:21 PM (xSo9G)

Is Howard Zinn the name of the best weed?

Posted by: golfman at March 17, 2019 03:23 PM (OE84+)

124 They are going on about how hard Boeing is working furiously on a software fix for the 737 Max 8 and 9. I suppose it hasn't occurred to anyone to install a manual override button or switch to kill automatic elevator control by the plane?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:23 PM (ffYR/)

125 And talking heads said it would never come back lol.
Posted by: Quint at March 17, 2019 03:20 PM (n13/j)


DJIA at the end of the Reign of Error: ca. 18,000.

DJIA at the EOB Friday: ca. 26,000.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:23 PM (gHApq)

126 21 Paul Krugman: always certain but rarely correct. Worst prophet ever.

His job is to give leftists plausible support for their theories, even if they continually are wrong. Krugman is a nobel prize winning economist and columnist for the vaunted New York Times, he says this, so you must be wrong!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 03:21 PM (39g3+)

It puzzles me that his commitment to the Dem agenda is so strong that he is indifferent to his credibility.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 17, 2019 03:24 PM (eAMlh)

127
"@DavidLammy
(...)
If we remain, we can reform the EU."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 17, 2019 03:20 PM (Hk+Y0)


That's not very compelling. If you leave, you can let Brussels go off and reform the EU all they want.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 17, 2019 03:24 PM (t+qrx)

128 It puzzles me that his commitment to the Dem agenda is so strong that he is indifferent to his credibility.

All the CORRECT sort of people still praise and love him, and he pulls down 6 figures a year writing stupid false columns. Why would he care?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 03:25 PM (39g3+)

129 I suppose it hasn't occurred to anyone to install a manual override button or switch to kill automatic elevator control by the plane?

From what I understand part of the problem is that they had three sensors on the plane, but it was only using one. So that's an easy fix.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 03:25 PM (39g3+)

130 "@DavidLammy

(...)

If we remain, we can reform the EU."


'Can' and 'will' are not synonyms, David.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 17, 2019 03:26 PM (oVJmc)

131 Airstrip One won't be part of Eurasia. So what?

Posted by: FireHorse at March 17, 2019 03:26 PM (fH82X)

132 I suppose it hasn't occurred to anyone to install a manual override
button or switch to kill automatic elevator control by the plane?


If they're crashing, they just have to pull the air brake.

I know 'cause i saw it in a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 17, 2019 03:28 PM (oVJmc)

133 UK elites just choosing to do things the Meghan and Harry way and rule in an "EU fluid" way. Trans-Brexit.

Posted by: Hands at March 17, 2019 03:29 PM (786Ro)

134 I suppose it hasn't occurred to anyone to install a manual override button or switch to kill automatic elevator control by the plane?

From what I understand part of the problem is that they had three sensors on the plane, but it was only using one. So that's an easy fix.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2019 03:25 PM (39g3+)

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What they were just discussing was the different lift characteristics this plane has due to having the engines mounted closer to the fuselage. The software apparently spoofs the controls so it has the same lift feel as older models rather than training pilots to fly it as the plane actually is designed.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:30 PM (ffYR/)

135 Our Senators are fighting tooth and nail to either get Trump out of
office or keep him from getting reelected. Someone needs to follow the
money those sons-of-bitches either got or are getting for shipping all
those factories and jobs all around the planet.


Exactly. Always follow the money.

Remember this whenever "principled conservatives", you know the ones who come into Congress making 200k a year and within 5 years have a net worth of tens of millions, insist that their votes are do to their "conscience".

Posted by: mikeyG at March 17, 2019 03:30 PM (LL1Be)

136 In glorious EU, EU reforms YOU.

Posted by: Hands at March 17, 2019 03:30 PM (786Ro)

137 I suppose it hasn't occurred to anyone to install a manual override button or switch to kill automatic elevator control by the plane?
Posted by: Calm Mentor
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I get your point, for sure.

Contemporary control systems are so complex that it is difficult to know what the consequences of tinkering with them will be.

As is well-known among the experienced that it is NOT possible to change ONE thing in a system without having an (often unpredictable) impact on something else in system.

Doesn't matter what the system is, mechanical, electrical, economic, social. The latter is overlooked by our Leftist friends.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:31 PM (CDGwz)

138 "Enron Adviser Krugman" is in the AoS style book, as is "Nobel Prize for Economics winner Krugman", or the preferred "Enron Advisor and Nobel Prize for Economics Winner Paul Krugman". "Laureate" may be substituted for "winner"; "Enron Advisor" and "Nobel Prize for Economics Winner" are transitive.

No, not tranny. Transitive.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 17, 2019 03:31 PM (MwFQu)

139 It puzzles me that his commitment to the Dem agenda is so strong that he is indifferent to his credibility.
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 17, 2019 03:24 PM (eAMlh)


It's because he's got air cover from the MSM. If you're an economic or stock market pundit, there's no point in issuing a prediction that's right in the middle of everyone else's. You predict the DJIA will go to 50,000, or to 5000, and then hope to God your prediction comes true. If it does, people will fall over you, buy your newsletter (if any), quote you, have you on TV, etc. But if it doesn't, your prediction will sink without trace, and no one will remember it.

It's the exact opposite of stock analysts. They seek safety in numbers, so if they're wrong, they say, "Well, everybody got it wrong, so don't fire me."

I remember Jeff Vinik, who ran Fidelity Magellan fund about 20 years ago. He predicted a sell-off/downturn, and liquidated a lot of holdings in Magellan. It didn't happen, and he got fired. Six months later, sell-off/downturn occurred. He was just a little early, that's all. But he was already out on his ass.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:31 PM (gHApq)

140 No, not tranny.

Of course, Krugman is pre-op. For either ECT or a pre-frontal.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 17, 2019 03:32 PM (MwFQu)

141 "due to their conscience"

Posted by: mikeyG at March 17, 2019 03:32 PM (LL1Be)

142
Brexit will not free us from the injustices of global capitalism, but make us subordinate to Trump's US.

If we remain, we can reform the EU. We can recharge the economy, re-fuel the NHS, build the houses we need.

We can restore hope to the UK after years of hurt.


Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. We have the capability to build the world's first perfect union. The EU will be that union. Better than it was before. Better, stronger, faster.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2019 03:32 PM (aKsyK)

143 I heard a good one today. You know the Black exit from the Dems is called Blexit. The new Jewish exit is termed Jexodus.. What a hoot..

Posted by: sOME mORON at March 17, 2019 03:33 PM (ICWiF)

144 It puzzles me that his commitment to the Dem agenda is so strong that he is indifferent to his credibility.
Posted by: Northern Lurker
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You say that as though Left/Prog/Lib/Dem have any regard whatsoever for character or integrity. They don't. None.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:34 PM (CDGwz)

145 131 Airstrip One won't be part of Eurasia. So what?
Posted by: FireHorse at March 17, 2019 03:26 PM (fH82X)


I'm waiting for the Brits to decide that they're better off throwing in their lot with us than with the Europeons. We have much closer linguistic and cultural ties to each other than to Europe, and an Anglo-sphere alliance would make a lot of sense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:35 PM (gHApq)

146 Sponge-it

Posted by: FIRST!!!!! at March 17, 2019 03:36 PM (C1NyB)

147 @DavidLammy

Brexit will not free us from the injustices of global capitalism, but make us subordinate to Trump's US. /i]

Much better to be subordinate to Germany.

Newsflash Dave: you're already subordinate to Trump's US. As is Germany.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:37 PM (gHApq)

148 While we're on the topic of the various "exits", has anyone checked out a Facebook page titled "Peaceful Red State Secession"? It has what I consider to be some of the most thorough and well-thought-out arguments I've seen in favor of splitting the nation between the red and blue states in an orderly fashion BEFORE it gets to the point of civil war.

Of particular interest to me, and probably other IL or Midwestern Morons, are some of their recent posts where they suggest annexing some of the "red" counties in downstate IL to one or more of the neighboring states (IN, KY or MO). They carefully explain why they believe this is more economically and politically feasible than trying to form either Chicagoland or Downstate into a new state, and they also take care to insure as far as possible that their proposals don't tilt the annexing states any farther to the left. I highly recoomend it.

Posted by: Secret Square at March 17, 2019 03:38 PM (9WuX0)

149 143 I heard a good one today. You know the Black exit from the Dems is called Blexit. The new Jewish exit is termed Jexodus.. What a hoot..
Posted by: sOME mORON at March 17, 2019 03:33 PM (ICWiF)

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Fundamentalist Christians should organize a Fuxit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 03:39 PM (TIuFZ)

150
I heard a good one today. You know the Black exit from the Dems is called Blexit. The new Jewish exit is termed Jexodus.. What a hoot..
Posted by: sOME mORON


And the "little people" in Ireland are called Leprechauns.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2019 03:39 PM (aKsyK)

151 So that's an easy fix.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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The statement that often precedes the smell of burning circuit boards. Not that it has ever happened to me...

And then, laterally, I admit, there's Eastern flight 401. "It's an easy fix..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:40 PM (CDGwz)

152 [iYou know the Black exit from the Dems is called Blexit.


Sadly, I think that's largely wishful thinking.

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2019 03:40 PM (T6t7i)

153 If we remain, we can reform the EU. We can recharge the economy, re-fuel the NHS, build the houses we need.


Reform it? So he admits it needs reform? And how is the UK going to reform it? They can't even leave it without permission. Britain simply does not have the clout to reform it.

Re-fuel the NHS? By sending money to the EU? How does that work?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:40 PM (gHApq)

154
I'm waiting for the Brits to decide that they're better off throwing in their lot with us than with the Europeons. We have much closer linguistic and cultural ties to each other than to Europe, and an Anglo-sphere alliance would make a lot of sense.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Heh. Rather than "Cut the cable!", it might be, "Cut the Chunnel!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:41 PM (CDGwz)

155 The new Jewish exit is termed Jexodus..

Heeb-blow

Posted by: pep at March 17, 2019 03:42 PM (T6t7i)

156 Heh. Rather than "Cut the cable!", it might be, "Cut the Chunnel!"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:41 PM (CDGwz)/i]

And AOC could propose HIGH. SPEED. RAIL. between the US and the UK.

She'd have the Big Idea. She'd let the little people work out the details.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:43 PM (gHApq)

157 Damnit, did it again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:43 PM (gHApq)

158 Reform it? So he admits it needs reform? And how is the UK going to reform it? They can't even leave it without permission

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This has not been conclusively established. Germany's attempts to subjugate Britain militarily in the past havent gone so well. OTOH, Britain had leaders with balls back then who weren't working for the enemy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 03:43 PM (TIuFZ)

159 Reform it? So he admits it needs reform? And how is the UK going to reform it? They can't even leave it without permission. Britain simply does not have the clout to reform it.

Re-fuel the NHS? By sending money to the EU? How does that work?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:40 PM (gHApq)

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This is the biggest argument I've seen for Brexit. I think they send the EU something like $220 billion/year. I'm not in favor of an NHS, but if they're gonna have it, why not use that money to shore up their system?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:44 PM (ffYR/)

160 148 While we're on the topic of the various "exits", has anyone checked out a Facebook page titled "Peaceful Red State Secession"?

Posted by: Secret Square at March 17, 2019 03:38 PM (9WuX0)


I stopped reading right there. There is no such thing as red and blue states. There are red and blue counties, and purple neighborhoods. How are you going to separate them?

Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 03:45 PM (sdi6R)

161 Watching Paris protests on a channel that has comments read a lot of Frexit

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 03:45 PM (BbGew)

162 155 The new Jewish exit is termed Jexodus..

Heeb-blow
Posted by: pep at March 17, 2019 03:42 PM (T6t7i)

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#yidsplit

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 03:47 PM (TIuFZ)

163 While we're on the topic of the various "exits", has anyone checked out a Facebook page titled "Peaceful Red State Secession"?

Posted by: Secret Square at March 17, 2019 03:38 PM (9WuX0)

I stopped reading right there. There is no such thing as red and blue states. There are red and blue counties, and purple neighborhoods. How are you going to separate them?
Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 03:45 PM (sdi6R)

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This is what I bring up on the occasions that CW2 comes up. I see no way this is possible with the way the electorate is distributed now geographically.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:48 PM (ffYR/)

164
Damnit, did it again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:43 PM


Need a spare [/i]? I gotta couple extra. Even one at the end of my nic.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 17, 2019 03:48 PM (jYje5)

165 "There is no such thing as red and blue states. There are red and blue counties, and purple neighborhoods. How are you going to separate them?"

They go into GREAT, almost excruciating, detail about how to separate red and blue counties, and in some cases parts of counties, in the case of downstate IL. I would guess that they are working on similar scenarios for interior California, upstate NY, and other regions where a rural area is currently held in thrall to a state government dominated by one or more large liberal cities.

Posted by: Secret Square at March 17, 2019 03:48 PM (9WuX0)

166 Need a spare ? I gotta couple extra. Even one at the end of my nic.
Posted by: Newest Nic at March 17, 2019 03:48 PM (jYje5)

Yeah, I've got one too. I'm typing too fast, and sometimes omit stuff, even words sometimes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 03:51 PM (gHApq)

167 156 Heh. Rather than "Cut the cable!", it might be, "Cut the Chunnel!"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:41 PM (CDGwz)/i]


I'm sure the Royal Engineers have the right spot picked out for the demo. It may already be in place.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 17, 2019 03:51 PM (MwFQu)

168 interesting take on the 737 Max issue and it makes a lot of sense to me:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-17/best-
analysis-what-really-happened-boeing-737-
max-pilot-software-engineer

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 17, 2019 03:51 PM (rf8q9)

169
This is what I bring up on the occasions that CW2 comes up. I see no way this is possible with the way the electorate is distributed now geographically.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:48 PM


I've been reading a blog out of Venezuela the past week. If ever there was a reason for a CW in that country it was the past week. Basically what happened was the people in the cities invaded every store and cleaned out every last one of the shelves while the power was out. Damage confined to cities. They got their food and big screen television sets. Done. *burp*

I would expect the same scenario here.

For a while.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 17, 2019 03:53 PM (jYje5)

170 I'm sure the Royal Engineers have the right spot picked out for the demo. It may already be in place.
Posted by: Fox2!
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heh. Reminds me of this Far Side cartoon:
http://tinyurl.com/y93nyxc7

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:53 PM (CDGwz)

171 I stopped reading right there. There is no such
thing as red and blue states. There are red and blue counties, and
purple neighborhoods. How are you going to separate them?

Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 03:45 PM (sdi6R)

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Kurt Schlicter has written a couple of books about that...

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 17, 2019 03:54 PM (rf8q9)

172 Having a big screen TV must be very satisfying when you have no electricity.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 03:54 PM (TIuFZ)

173 163
This is what I bring up on the occasions that CW2 comes up. I see no way this is possible with the way the electorate is distributed now geographically.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 17, 2019 03:48 PM (ffYR/)


CW1 was an anomaly. Every other civil war in history has involved neighbors slaughtering neighbors.

Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 03:54 PM (sdi6R)

174 CW1 was an anomaly. Every other civil war in history has involved neighbors slaughtering neighbors.
Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 03:54 PM (sdi6R)
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Yay for the traditional ways.

*racks slide*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 03:55 PM (TIuFZ)

175 "When dawn breaks over London-town..."

https://youtu.be/o-9aIAxUytg

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2019 03:56 PM (5aX2M)

176 I guarantee you if they have another vote and it passes again, they'll keep playing this game until the "right" choice is made.

I honestly don't understand enough about UK politics, but is the whole problem simply Theresa May?

Posted by: Blago at March 17, 2019 03:56 PM (UfkIY)

177 Agree its tough to separate, but the Spanish civil war was in similar situations. But also there can't be anything peaceful if it was to be done, Leftists never play that way.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 03:57 PM (BbGew)

178 I honestly don't understand enough about UK politics, but is the whole problem simply Theresa May?
Posted by: Blago
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The problem? They voted Churchill out of office.

I like to look for root causes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 03:58 PM (CDGwz)

179 pea eating wankers. nothing will ever change in that fucked up country. can't say i care.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 17, 2019 03:58 PM (KP5rU)

180 Been a long time since I read the history of Pakistan/ India breakup but they also were all intermixed, didn't go well there.

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 03:58 PM (BbGew)

181 Even setting aside the idea of Part II, it's not a bad idea to have a few dozen cans of green beans on hand and the knowledge of how to collect/purify water.

Ammo too, of course, but I just mean for any extended unpleasantness. Hurricane, EMP (although I think a bad solar flare is more likely and more damaging), etc.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wrong it hat say bullets interpretation means nothing. at March 17, 2019 03:58 PM (xyung)

182 Rule from afar? There are three things at issue here: Immigration, immigration, and immigration.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at March 17, 2019 03:59 PM (iOKfQ)

183
Having a big screen TV must be very satisfying when you have no electricity.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 03:54 PM


*That's* when violent revolution begins. Not when everyone has stolen a big screen television. But when, days later, the power doesn't come back on.

It came back on in time. In the most riot/loot prone areas. Funny that.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 17, 2019 03:59 PM (jYje5)

184 Cicero (@cicero) at March 17, 2019 03:55 PM (TIuFZ)

** listens carefully at neighbors window **

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Psychology Critic ... at March 17, 2019 03:59 PM (LPnfS)

185 There parliament is like having a Democrats in power

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 03:59 PM (BbGew)

186 I've said it again and again... I wish people would quit talking about CW2.

Civil wars are what people call it when they talk about losers.

I prefer AR2. Keep yourselves thinking like winners.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2019 04:00 PM (5aX2M)

187 But also there can't be anything peaceful if it was to be done, Leftists never play that way.

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It's sad how true that is. They can't stand the idea that someone 3000 miles away might be deciding who can and can't use the girls bathroom.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wrong it hat say bullets interpretation means nothing. at March 17, 2019 04:00 PM (xyung)

188
*That's* when violent revolution begins. Not when everyone has stolen a big screen television. But when, days later, the power doesn't come back on.
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So, it's true, the revolution will not be televised?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 04:01 PM (CDGwz)

189 177 Agree its tough to separate, but the Spanish civil war was in similar situations. But also there can't be anything peaceful if it was to be done, Leftists never play that way.
Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 03:57 PM (BbGew)


There was a certain geographical distinction in the Spanish Civil War. The Republicans' stronghold was in Barcelona and environs in Catalonia, while the Nationalists' support was more concentrated in the west and south, IIRC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 17, 2019 04:01 PM (gHApq)

190 Nood.

Posted by: HH at March 17, 2019 04:03 PM (mIJBI)

191 Nood. Food.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 17, 2019 04:03 PM (TdMsT)

192 Food ONT

Posted by: hogmartin at March 17, 2019 04:03 PM (t+qrx)

193 er, nood. not ONT.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 17, 2019 04:03 PM (t+qrx)

194 Nood. Food.


Good.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 17, 2019 04:04 PM (LL1Be)

195 I suck at predicting elections and mass human trends so there is that bit of silver lining; but I cannot envision a future where the commiecrats would let red states break off and just go "ok you'll see the error of your deplorable ways and come begging to join us" They are being told by all of their false prophets that CAWG is real and action needs to happen within 12 years or billions of people in Asia will starve or drown and thousands of species will go extinct, plus the immigrants are being oppressed etc etc

So how are all these GAIA zealots going to be convinced to let us irredeemable deplorables selfishly keep 50% or more of the U.S. landmass and keep destroying GAIA and denying a fair share to all those poor little 3rd worlders? I just do not see that happening; aside from the practical logistical difficulties setting up ports of entry between the greater Republic of Texas and the blue states.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at March 17, 2019 04:05 PM (pAkRe)

196 "they suggest annexing some of the "red" counties in downstate IL to one
or more of the neighboring states (IN, KY or MO). They carefully explain
why they believe this is more economically and politically feasible
than trying to form either Chicagoland or Downstate into a new state"

I'm already right next to MO, would be glad to join them. I'd heard the "two state solution" proposed, but joining MO would work. Can't imagine it will happen, but am tired of being enslaved by the Chicago Syndicate. unchain me bro'

Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2019 04:05 PM (Cus5s)

197 GB is never going to leave the eu. The voting on brexit will go on and on until the RIGHT vote comes up (Stay in eu) and then voting will stop.


Why do I think this? Because this is what the eu did to get countries into the eu.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 17, 2019 04:07 PM (pw+jk)

198 How can it be 4pm already?

Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2019 04:08 PM (BbGew)

199 But also there can't be anything peaceful if it was to be done, Leftists never play that way.


Leftists are Cylons.


Send them away and in 50 years they will be back, subverting your civilization again.


Posted by: mikeyG at March 17, 2019 04:10 PM (LL1Be)

200 *That's* when violent revolution begins. Not when everyone has stolen a big screen television. But when, days later, the power doesn't come back on.
---------

So, it's true, the revolution will not be televised?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2019 04:01 PM


That's what I said m-fer. Way back when.

Posted by: Gill Scott Heroin at March 17, 2019 04:11 PM (jYje5)

201 I just watched Sargon's video in the sidebar.

Looks like the British Parliament is as serious about Brexit as the US Congress is about defending the border.

So what does a free people do when their government is openly hostile to their interests?

I think you all know the answer.

Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 04:12 PM (sdi6R)

202 They are going on about how hard Boeing is working furiously on a software fix for the 737 Max 8 and 9. I suppose it hasn't occurred to anyone to install a manual override button or switch to kill automatic elevator control by the plane?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March

Already there. There have been several flights that the pilots have reacted properly. Note the airlines that didn't.

Posted by: Jean at March 17, 2019 04:14 PM (25Dt7)

203 The food thread is the most depressing thread of all. I'm going to take a nap.

Posted by: rickl at March 17, 2019 04:31 PM (sdi6R)

204 "The whole idea of the EU was to create a super-state like the US, with open borders, common law, etc."

and most of us who (vaguely) supported it back then did so because we thought we could then live and/or work somewhere warm and sunny without so much red tape.

Posted by: exdemocrat at March 17, 2019 04:46 PM (GmndG)

205 If I understand it correctly, Britain has already left the EU. To be readmitted takes a unanimous vote of the member nations. Has this happened?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 17, 2019 05:33 PM (yQpMk)

206 Can someone translate what Daltrey said into English?

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at March 17, 2019 05:38 PM (5fSr7)

207 BREXSHIT ? are we tawkin aboot B'Ham, Y 'shire or R'Ham?

Posted by: saf at March 17, 2019 06:00 PM (5IHGB)

208 >>>Brexit Is An Obsession With The British Media The Way Trump Derangement Syndrome Is With The American Media

Thanks for this thread, CBD. It's an endlessly fascinating topic.

Posted by: m at March 17, 2019 06:01 PM (Ts3fP)

209 Daltry said it in English...you mate have cloth ears and too tight undies...................but i repeat myself.....

Posted by: saf at March 17, 2019 06:03 PM (5IHGB)

210 The kid is alright.

ps: Churchill proposed a "United States of Europe" to keep Germany under control and Communists out--not to create a Socialist superstate with Germany in charge.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 17, 2019 07:24 PM (Ndje9)

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