What about your LOSSSSSSSEZZZZ, Brah?

So I went to my doctor for a physical recently, and I was shocked when I weighed in at 199 lbs. For years, I've been 188-190 lbs., which is overweight, but stable, so I wasn't inclined to do anything about it. I ate what I wanted to, and didn't think too much about it. But after my shoulder injury, I was flat on my back for a month, and although I don't remember much, I was most likely eating lots of that high-carb hospital food, and I'm think this is what caused the weight gain. So when my doctor asked me if I had any concerns about my health, I told him, yeah, I'm a gross fat pig and I need to do lose some weight.

So he recommended the Mediterranean Diet.

I did not like the Meditteranean Diet.

Some diets are low fat. Some are low carb. Many are low sugar, or low salt. The Mediterranean Diet appears to be low everything. Oh, but you can drink a glass of wine a day on the Mediterranean Diet. I'm not a big drinker. You can eat lots of nuts on the Mediterranean Diet. Yeah, well, who cares? I think my doc recommended it because I have a history of heart disease and it's a very "heart healthy" diet.

I'm not knocking the Mediterranean diet, I know it works for a lot of people, but it just seemed overly restrictive to me, such that I'd be too tempted to cheat. I didn't want to fail.

Also, Mrs. Muse and I discussed it and she'd have to revamp pretty much her entire cooking repertoire. She suggested the Weight Watchers diet plan, which she has used in the past and since she is familiar with it, we could both do it together.

The way WW works is that each different type of food is assigned a point value based on a complex formula, and you are alloted a certain number of points per day based on age, gender, height, weight, and the amount of exercise you get. So every time you eat something you need to deduct its points from your daily total, and when you get to 0, that's it, you're done for the day.

There's a WW "bible" available that is simply a big dictionary of foods and their respective point values. Mrs. Muse also has a WW calculator that has a built-in function that determines point values from the ingredients. High carb and high sugar foods are very expensive, i.e. their point counts are high. A slice of pizza is worth 7 points. All fresh fruit is worth 0 points. Vegetables are low, like 1 or 0 points. My height and weight are such that I get 26 points per day. There aren't any "forbidden" foods, just foods that are very expensive in points, so you'll use up your points really fast if you eat them.

We started the new diet in the first week in January. Mrs. Muse keeps track of her points in a little diary, but I thought this is a perfect job for a spreadsheet, so I fired up Excel, entered a few subtraction formulas, and hey presto, my daily food diary was good to go.

Oh, and the other thing I did was to change soft drinks. Pepai is one of my bad habits. I love the stuff; I drink a can a day. I really didn't want to give that up, but it's a bunch of empty calories and sugar and each 12-oz. can is 4 WW points, points which can be better used elsewhere. So I had Mrs. Muse start buying 'Pepsi 0' instead, which has 0 sugar, 0 fat, 0 carbs, and, most importantly, 0 WW points. And it doesn't taste too awfully different than the regular Pepsi I was drinking before. So this is something I can live with.

So, how'm I doing?

Pretty well, actually. We weigh ourselves every Saturday morning and keep a log. I started out at 199 lbs., and as of last Saturday, I was at 183.5 lbs. I don't see much of a difference when I look at my belly in the mirror, but I have had to cinch up my belt tighter and tighter and now I had to switch to smaller-sized jeans. When I got out of the hospital last year, we had to buy size 40 because I had blimped up, but now I'm back down to the size 38 jeans I was wearing before.

My goal is to lose another 15 more pounds. 20 would be better, but I'd be satisfied with 15.

I like the WW diet because the system is an easy way to maintain discipline. Every day I have to sit at my computer and type in everything I've eaten, look at the current point total, and plan the rest of my eating for that day accordingly. I saw my doc in February after I had been dieting for about a month, and he was pleased at my weight loss. I didn't tell him I was doing WW and not the Mediterranean diet. He did tell me that losing weight was easy. The hard part is keeping it off. I believe him. I know I can't revert back to my old eating habits when I reach my goal weight. I will have to follow the diet for the rest of my life. This, by the way, is all new to me. I've never been on a diet before. Never in my life before now have I denied myself any food I wanted to eat.

One more thing: in order to fit with the WW point system, I have to eat the set quantities they prescribe for each item. So a T-Bone steak is something like 5 points, but that's for 3 ounces, not 12. That's not a lot of steak, but I don't need a lot. I think much of the WW effectiveness is coming from the greatly reduced quantities of food I'm consuming. I estimate I have reduced the sheer volume of food intake by about 50%, maybe a bit more. In the back of my mind, I've had this nagging little voice telling me I could survive on much less food, and so far, that has proven to be right.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 08:35 PM

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1 Good evening

Posted by: BigZesty at March 15, 2019 08:35 PM (inMzO)

2 Gained 5 pounds at Disney

Posted by: rammajamma at March 15, 2019 08:36 PM (kSock)

3 Blah...
I need another beer.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2019 08:38 PM (0tfLf)

4 I've kinda/sorta given up on dieting lately.

Seems like every time I lose a little weight, I go nuts and gain it all back. I need a diet I can really stick to, forever, which is the hardest part.

Is beef jerky Atkins-friendly? I'd think it is, it's just got tons of salt. I just ordered me some of this lately and have been enjoying it:

https://tinyurl.com/y62lhvnd

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 15, 2019 08:38 PM (miE9U)

5 I've gained a boatload of weight since my wife died. I'm thoroughly pissed off at myself.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 15, 2019 08:38 PM (JgA4k)

6 I got off a daily cokecouple years ago, wasn't hard to drop it so must not really have needed it.

Posted by: Skip at March 15, 2019 08:39 PM (BbGew)

7 I read the whole thing with "WW" expanded to "WeaselWoman", e.g. "WeaselWoman diet" and "WeaselWoman points" and all that.

I hope that's OK. If it had been the WD diet, it would have ended up as WeaselDog.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 15, 2019 08:39 PM (t+qrx)

8 A glass of wine a day? What's the diet where you can drink all you want?

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

9 That sound like a good diet but too much math.

Posted by: freaked at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (UdKB7)

10 I've found my enthusiasm for coffee has dropped lately.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (JgA4k)

11 Since retiring at the end of January I have been walking with the dog 2-3 miles 3-5 days a week. I still weigh the same, but the dog looks marvelous.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (m45I2)

12 A glass of wine a day? What's the diet where you can drink all you want?
Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

That's the Will Never Be President diet.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (t+qrx)

13 Congrats on your diet success. Whatever works, works, and is worth celebrating. We're all pretty different in that respect; someday, someone will sort all that out.

For me, avoiding carbs is Job One. If I do that, everything else falls into place. Lately I found out I can gain weight even if my only carb is brown rice, and just when I learned to like it, and properly decorate it with things like over-easy duck eggs and country ham slivers. I'd complain, but I get to eat bacon and large steaks and burgers, so who would listen?

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (ed8K1)

14 Mazlo.

Posted by: Eromero at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (qBNEP)

15 OM, check out State of the Art -SOTA- weight loss. your extra pounds will be gone in a week.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (j9bhg)

16 Just had a brownie sundae.

I think I owe some points.

Posted by: fluffy at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (AYbh1)

17
I think much of the WW effectiveness is coming from the greatly reduced quantities of food I'm consuming. I estimate I have reduced the sheer volume of food intake by about 50%, maybe a bit more. In the back of my mind, I've had this nagging little voice telling me I could survive on much less food, and so far, that has proven to be right.

I suspect that one could get virtually the same effect from eating anything you want except in half-size portions as you could from going all drill-sergeant discipline in terms of diet.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (eXA4G)

18 ULA webcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNU46m8Hi6Q

They're in the middle of a 15 minute second stage burn.

And the ULA announcer is a cutie.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (sdi6R)

19 How many point for a real beer vs a lite beer? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: freaked at March 15, 2019 08:42 PM (UdKB7)

20 199?

How tall?

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 08:42 PM (MAstk)

21 ITC, did you go to the Waxahachie gun show?

Posted by: Ben Had at March 15, 2019 08:43 PM (j9bhg)

22 WeirdDave, I would kill to be just 199 pounds.
I don't think I ever will be again.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 15, 2019 08:43 PM (miE9U)

23 Oops, not WeirdDave, OregonMuse. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 15, 2019 08:43 PM (miE9U)

24 Is that CBD's food pyramid?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 15, 2019 08:43 PM (EZebt)

25 8 A glass of wine a day? What's the diet where you can drink all you want?
Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

Here is the diet plan prescribed to the original ancestor of the Atkins diet, William Banting. I don't think he went to bed sober on this one.

"Breakfast, 9am: 6oz of either beef, mutton, kidneys, broiled fish, bacon or cold meat of any kind except pork or veal; 9oz of tea or coffee without milk or sugar; a little biscuit or 1oz of dry toast.

"Lunch, 2pm: 5-6 oz of any fish except salmon, herrings or eels, or any meat except pork or veal; any vegetable except potato, parsnip or beetroot, turnip or carrot; 1oz of dry toast; fruit out of a pudding, not sweetened; any kind of poultry or game; 2-3 glasses of good claret, sherry or Madeira. Champagne, port and beer are forbidden.

"Tea, 6pm: 2-3oz of cooked fruit, a rusk or two, tea without milk or sugar.

"Supper, 9pm: 3-4oz of meat or fish similar to lunch. For nightcap, if required, a tumbler of grog (gin, whisky or brandy, without sugar) or a glass or two of claret or sherry."

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 08:43 PM (ed8K1)

26 I may not be doing it right, but KETO allows you to drink a bunch, eat all the steak and bacon and cheese you want. And its very filling. I wasn't trying to lose weight at all, but I've lost 3-4 pounds while eating more than I usually do.

Whoever recommended the book about the dr. trying to save her mom from cancer a few weeks ago though the Keto diet, thanks. Its an interesting experiment, at worst!

Posted by: LASue at March 15, 2019 08:44 PM (XROPS)

27 9 That sound like a good diet but too much math.

Posted by: freaked at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (UdKB7)

I know, right? That's what the spreadsheet is for. So I don't have to do the same math over and over again.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 15, 2019 08:44 PM (h1Jye)

28 My wife went on a modified Auto-Immune Protocol regimen on the advice of her neurologist.
Has been shedding pounds like she was engaged.
I do the cro-magnon diet. I eat meat, with occasional bouts of crops thrown in for snacks. Drink all I want.
Weigh the same I did at 22.

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 08:45 PM (z42AD)

29 Give up Pepsi, switch to Coke. pepsi is woke AF. F them and the Yum brand Yeti they rode in on.

Posted by: dr kill at March 15, 2019 08:45 PM (Jj+59)

30 Is there okra and grits on that pyramid? Because you need okra and grits on that pyramid.

Posted by: Eromero at March 15, 2019 08:45 PM (qBNEP)

31 Sounds like gainzz to me

Posted by: BacktoGA at March 15, 2019 08:46 PM (gJJd+)

32 Congrats on the weight loss, OM.
It's not easy, and yet it's not that tough if one is properly motivated.
How about Gainnnz? Start an exercise regimen to go with the diet?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 15, 2019 08:46 PM (z79tQ)

33 20 199?

How tall?
Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 08:42 PM (MAstk)

5-8 or 5-9.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 15, 2019 08:46 PM (h1Jye)

34 Posted by: Muldoon at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (m45I2)

No weight loss?

Hmm. Still great for you in other ways.

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 08:46 PM (MAstk)

35 MECO 1. The satellite is in its preliminary orbit.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

36 30 Is there okra and grits on that pyramid? Because you need okra and grits on that pyramid.
Posted by: Eromero at March 15, 2019 08:45 PM (qBNEP)
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Ain't a proper pyramid without okra 'n grits.

Posted by: Weasel at March 15, 2019 08:47 PM (MVjcR)

37
Underheight - a limerick

I have to say I'm happy to report
I spent a week at a weight loss resort
But here's the funny part
When they plot me on their chart
My weight's fine, but I'm 8 inches too short

Posted by: Muldoon at March 15, 2019 08:47 PM (m45I2)

38 I'M LOSING YOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=LWr_F4Gg8sY

Posted by: THE TEMPTATIONS at March 15, 2019 08:47 PM (GpV8E)

39 >>> 5-8 or 5-9.

Make up yer mind, will ya?

Posted by: fluffy at March 15, 2019 08:47 PM (AYbh1)

40 28 My wife went on a modified Auto-Immune Protocol regimen on the advice of her neurologist.

...

Is there a link?

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 08:47 PM (MAstk)

41 Grits with runny eggs... fried okra all summer long, preferably fried in bacon fat.
Livin' the dream!

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 08:47 PM (z42AD)

42 And the ULA announcer is a cutie.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (sdi6R)

You didn't mention her impressive rack.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 15, 2019 08:47 PM (9Om/r)

43 So, instead of learning about the food you're eating, you're letting weight watchers assign "points?"
Then what?

You're going to do points for the rest of your life?

Posted by: dagny at March 15, 2019 08:48 PM (nRWPy)

44 >>5-8 or 5-9.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor

Some guys like a Zaftig Woman.

I was saddened to hear that story about you and the restaurant booth, though.

Posted by: garrett at March 15, 2019 08:49 PM (GpV8E)

45 It's not easy, and yet it's not that tough if one is properly motivated.
How about Gainnnz? Start an exercise regimen to go with the diet?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 15, 2019 08:46 PM (z79tQ)

I've got a couple of physical handicaps caused by structural damage to my body which makes exercise more work than I can summon the will power to do.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 15, 2019 08:49 PM (h1Jye)

46 5-8 or 5-9.

...

Heh ok so 5'8.

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 08:49 PM (MAstk)

47 Yeah, Ha.
She went to him for chronic nerve impairment symptoms.
Numb fingers, shooting pains in the arms, etc.
The regimen has cured that, and the side-benefits are manifold.
Her favorite foods were killing her, it seems.

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 08:49 PM (z42AD)

48 "That's what the spreadsheet is for. "

I could never do that. I've got to where I hate using a computer for work or working on peoples computers for work.

I should try something like that though. My typical diet is "oh I'm looking fat so I better stop eating so much" and that what I do for for a while until my pants start falling off again, that is when I'm wearing them.

Posted by: freaked at March 15, 2019 08:50 PM (UdKB7)

49 Really like WW. Lost 46lbs many years ago. Did the updated plan last year and lost 25. It's not just portion control but also reducing high fat and sugar. I went from cooking with a pound of butter per week to using a pound per month to 6 weeks. They have excellent recipes. Still use their Alfredo with mushroom recipe for many pasta dishes. I also like the discipline of counting points. Exercise is still a must.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 15, 2019 08:50 PM (N3JsI)

50 You're going to do points for the rest of your life?

Posted by: dagny at March 15, 2019 08:48 PM (nRWPy)

That is my intention, yes.

It sounds like you might have another suggestion, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 15, 2019 08:50 PM (h1Jye)

51 That guy William Banting was a Seabee.

Posted by: Eromero at March 15, 2019 08:50 PM (qBNEP)

52 Getting a bit of a thunderstorm here.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 08:51 PM (sdi6R)

53 Coffee and chocolate are the base of my food pyramid, followed by layers of beef, bacon, and chicken, then wine and spirits, with a lit cheroot as the glowing eye atop.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 15, 2019 08:51 PM (kQs4Y)

54 >>I've got a couple of physical handicaps caused by structural damage to my body

We can still make of fun of you, though. Right?

Posted by: garrett at March 15, 2019 08:51 PM (GpV8E)

55

As I was being wheeled into the ambulance when I had my heart attack, I thought, "You know, if I knew I was going to croak today, I'da had a nice thick steak for dinner last night..."

I kinda sorta went on a heart healthy diet there for a while, got my cholesterol down and can now eat just about whatever I want. Gained 6 pounds over the holidays and have almost lost it all. I'm not that big, so 5 pounds on me looks like 10 pounds on a normal human.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivism at March 15, 2019 08:51 PM (HaL55)

56 Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 08:49 PM (z42AD)

Do you have a link to the diet she follows? My wife has the same.

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 08:51 PM (MAstk)

57 53 Coffee and chocolate are the base of my food pyramid, followed by layers of beef, bacon, and chicken, then wine and spirits, with a lit cheroot as the glowing eye atop.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 15, 2019 08:51 PM (kQs4Y)

It's not a proper pyramid unless it's got a spooky eyeball on the top.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 15, 2019 08:52 PM (h1Jye)

58 I think I found a way to beat the BMI calculators. Increase your height to something like 17 feet.

Posted by: Weasel at March 15, 2019 08:52 PM (MVjcR)

59 It's not a proper pyramid unless it's got a spooky eyeball on the top.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 15, 2019 08:52 PM (h1Jye)
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Martini olive?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 15, 2019 08:53 PM (kQs4Y)

60 I just got weight at the doc's last week... and I'm at about my heaviest recently. That said, I feel better than I have for a while because I've been trying to be good about reducing carbs. I basically try to go low-carb 4-5 times a week. Usually Sunday-Friday, and Friday night through Saturday I'll relax a bit. I only eat between about 10am and 2pm, so as long as I either cook up something on Sundays to eat during the week, or swing by the store in the morning and pick up roast beef and cheese I'm good. The problem comes when life gets busy and my options are the sandwich shop, the other sandwich shop, the third sandwich shop, or the burger joint.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 15, 2019 08:53 PM (SgjGX)

61 >>It's not a proper pyramid unless it's got a spooky eyeball on the top.

Gotta be built by slaves, too.

Can't go building your own Pyramid or paying Contractor Raates.

Posted by: garrett at March 15, 2019 08:53 PM (GpV8E)

62 I've got a couple of physical handicaps caused by structural damage to my body which makes exercise more work than I can summon the will power to do.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 15, 2019 08:49 PM (h1Jye)

That makes the weight loss the more impressive.
Diet and exercise.
All the new years ads for this shake and that supplement or weight loss program say it, but very very quietly.
YOU CAN LOSE 10LBS AND 6 INCHES OFF YOUR WAIST WITH THIS AMAZING DIET (and exercise) BUY TODAY!!!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 15, 2019 08:53 PM (z79tQ)

63 OM you really don't need to count points forever. WW teaches you what to avoid or reduce and for me taught me how to cook with a lower calorie count.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 15, 2019 08:53 PM (N3JsI)

64 OM - Do you have to Join WW?

..................

Is beef jerky Atkins-friendly? I'd think it is, it's just got tons of salt. I just ordered me some of this lately and have been enjoying it:

https://tinyurl.com/y62lhvnd
Posted by: qdpsteve

qdpsteve - Ingredients show 5 carbs! They must use a lot of sugar marinating that beef.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 15, 2019 08:53 PM (438dO)

65 54 >>I've got a couple of physical handicaps caused by structural damage to my body

We can still make of fun of you, though. Right?
Posted by: garrett at March 15, 2019 08:51 PM (GpV8E)

I get enough of that from Mrs. Muse.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 15, 2019 08:54 PM (h1Jye)

66 53 Coffee and chocolate are the base of my food pyramid, followed by layers of beef, bacon, and chicken, then wine and spirits, with a lit cheroot as the glowing eye atop.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 15, 2019 08:51 PM (kQs4Y)

I would like to subscribe to your diet newsletter.

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 08:54 PM (ed8K1)

67 OT:

Virginia doing a fine job of choking in the ACC Tournament. About 2 minutes left so its not over yet. Still, there uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory is impressive.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 15, 2019 08:55 PM (WNAuL)

68 Someone needs to hurry up and get the trademark or patent or whatever protections on the Venezuelan Diet.

Sure to be a big hit among the Champagne Liberals.

Posted by: Hereogar at March 15, 2019 08:55 PM (eQ0LF)

69 Oregon you're killing it. Stay on track.

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (MAstk)

70 I've got a couple of physical handicaps caused by structural damage to my body

We can still make of fun of you, though. Right?
Posted by: garrett at March 15, 2019 08:51 PM (GpV8E)

And it would be easier if we knew exactly what handicaps.

I denounce myself

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (z79tQ)

71 Ha,
You can search AIP regimen. She actuyally started with the
30 day elimination" protocol, but has since backed up on some foods.
The idea is to strip all grains, milk, and ADDITIVES from your diet (among other things... real protein heavy) for 30 days. Lose the gut flora, fauna, etc., then methodically add back one thing at a time.
Check for reactions.
She wasn't methodical enough initially. Decided she wanted gumbo after the first 30 days. Bad gut reactions, pain, etc.
BUT, she added not only rice, but lots of meat additives and preservatives in the same meal, so we learned nothing from it.

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (z42AD)

72 ChiTown, hmmm

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (miE9U)

73 I think I found a way to beat the BMI calculators. Increase your height to something like 17 feet.
Posted by: Weasel at March 15, 2019 08:52 PM (MVjcR)

You never have to worry about your waist measurement on the PRT rope-and-choke if you can get your neck to about 30" around.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (t+qrx)

74
Keep An Eye On It - a limerick

My doctor said he couldn't believe it
I gained fifteen pounds, he said, "Ho-lee shee-it!"
He asked me why I overate
When he'd said to watch my weight
"I'm just trying to get it out where I can see it!"

Posted by: Muldoon at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (m45I2)

75 Every year I get a new insurance company through work. And every year, we have to do this "fitness assessment". They always recommend the same high carb, low fat, low salt diet that caused the spike in heart disease. My husband's cardiologist recommends the same crap. And they want me to exercise. This would be great, except walking around in the house or outside causes my oxygen levels to drop to the low 70s. I can't seem to get around the no oxygen issue. And they know this is a condition I'm being treated for.

I hate dealing with doctors. I think I have finally convinced my husband not to put too much faith in them. They are great at cutting and stitching but not very good at nutrition.

Posted by: notsothoreau at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (JKNZq)

76 MES 2 has started.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (sdi6R)

77 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 15, 2019 08:57 PM (dOcvc)

78 63 OM you really don't need to count points forever. WW teaches you what to avoid or reduce and for me taught me how to cook with a lower calorie count.
Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 15, 2019 08:53 PM (N3JsI)

Yeah, I know, but for now, the points make it easy.

And we know that fruits and vegetables are low in points, while donuts and candy bars have a zillion, so we have a general idea of what to eat and what not to eat.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at March 15, 2019 08:57 PM (h1Jye)

79 Beef jerky is sometimes low-carb-friendly, sometimes loaded with sugar. Avoid really commercial stuff and "teriyaki" flavor at all costs if you're avoiding sugar.

The best is to make your own, good dehydrators are cheap, but the trick is to pull it before it gets too dried out, unless you're trying to preserve it for the Apocalypse.

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 08:57 PM (ed8K1)

80 Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (z42AD)

Thanks, will look into it!

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 08:57 PM (MAstk)

81 That Delta IV second stage is very impressive. It can execute several burns totaling over 20 minutes, depending on the mission profile.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 08:58 PM (sdi6R)

82 Also, decided she needed an definitive answer on flour (wheat) so she made bread.
Sever stomach upset.
THEN she remembered she'd reacted badly to shiitake mushrooms several years ago when we were growing them.
Wheat? Or maybe yeast (fungus)?
See the dilemmas?

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 08:58 PM (z42AD)

83 I have been trying a new routine for my 2 mile run every other day.

I listen to my music player and run for one song, about 3 minutes, then walk to the next song, about another 3 minutes and so on back and forth until done.

Seems to ease the aches and pains the next day when it's weights/pull ups/dips day.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 15, 2019 08:59 PM (Z+IKu)

84 Eat More Mushrooms.

Posted by: garrett at March 15, 2019 08:59 PM (GpV8E)

85 That Berkeley Food Pyramid is about perfect, except its missing three things:

Steak
Bacon
Tobacco

Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at March 15, 2019 09:00 PM (QU+qf)

86 MECO 2. I believe that burn put the spacecraft in a geosynchronous transfer orbit.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 09:00 PM (sdi6R)

87 Hairyback, good idea.
Just don't get stuck running while the album version of "Papa Was A Rolling Stone" is playing...

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 15, 2019 09:00 PM (miE9U)

88 Haven't needed/wanted to do it in a while, but South Beach always works for me.
And it ain't swimsuit weather yet, so there.

Posted by: RI Red at March 15, 2019 09:01 PM (8QQG+)

89 Been doing Keto with the wife, now wearing the same size pants I did the year after high school.

Kind of backslid lately, but I'm getting back on that pony.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 15, 2019 09:02 PM (oVJmc)

90 I guess it's more food thread fodder than here, but what the hell. For me, the perfect steak is accompanied by sauteed mushrooms, but for years, I did not make them right. I wound up with these greasy things. The breakthrough happened when I was at a cooking class and asked about it, and it turns out that the trick is that you want the butter and added water+stock to make an emulsion, and stay that way, even if you need to add liquid. That's all it took. Now I can make really good sauteed mushrooms, and my steak experience is like nirvana. Now all I need is for steak prices to come down.

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 09:02 PM (ed8K1)

91 MrPeebles, isn't Beto on Keto? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 15, 2019 09:03 PM (miE9U)

92 Every year I get a new insurance company through work. And every year, we have to do this "fitness assessment". They always recommend the same high carb, low fat, low salt diet that caused the spike in heart disease.
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 15, 2019 08:56 PM (JKNZq)

No shit.
Low fat equals more hunger = overeating (probably the wrong thing too)
Low salt? Yes, high salt raises your bp, and if you already have hypertension can be harmful. However, latest science says it is only temporary, and as that salt flushes through your system, down goes the bp.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 15, 2019 09:03 PM (z79tQ)

93 Spacecraft separation! A successful mission.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 09:03 PM (sdi6R)

94
I'm definitely going to alter my diet. I've already added Lemon Juice and Spinach to my daily diet.

I'm also going to spend time with my joints and tendons.

From now on, my Health is my #1 priority.

In the meantime, however, I'll be spending the next 2 weeks in bed with my bum leg after surgery, which btw, was a scary experience for me.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:05 PM (VO0ln)

95 I thought I had high BP, but it turned out to be that I liked to visit my doctor in the morning, because his schedule would be on time then, and my BP is a lot higher right after I've had my daily massive load of coffee.

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 09:05 PM (ed8K1)

96 Well, that launch was worth the wait. Better safe than sorry.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 09:06 PM (sdi6R)

97 isn't Beto on Keto?

He quit after Trump's veto.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 15, 2019 09:06 PM (LL1Be)

98 I have been trying a new routine for my 2 mile run every other day.

I listen to my music player and run for one song, about 3 minutes, then walk to the next song, about another 3 minutes and so on back and forth until done.

Seems to ease the aches and pains the next day when it's weights/pull ups/dips day.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 15, 2019 08:59 PM (Z+IKu)

I've always hated running and stopped for about a year due to foot pain. It's been a struggle to get back into it. I prefer sprints and intervals rather than long steady runs. I'll usually walk 1/4 mile, run 1/4 mile, repeat for 2-3 miles twice a week.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 15, 2019 09:06 PM (SgjGX)

99

Right now I'm on a diet of Oxycodone and Ibuprofen.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:07 PM (VO0ln)

100 Y'all know the nut Michael Savage? Guy is actually a phD in Nutritional Anthropology. His work makes sense.
If you came from American Indians, probably milk and milk products are gonna make you sick (or fat).
If you came from northern European stock, you probably can't digest olive oil.
If you came from Latin America, you better avoid wheat, etc..
Anyway, he was able to defend it well enough to get a phD.

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:07 PM (z42AD)

101 Just don't get stuck running while the album version of "Papa Was A Rolling Stone" is playing...
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 15, 2019 09:00 PM (miE9U)

Hahaha....or that wife beater Don McLean's "American Pie".

Thankfully, I hate that song.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 15, 2019 09:07 PM (Z+IKu)

102 Posted by: Soothsayer

How is your knee?

Posted by: mikeyG at March 15, 2019 09:08 PM (LL1Be)

103 94 I'm definitely going to alter my diet. I've already added Lemon Juice and Spinach to my daily diet.
I'm also going to spend time with my joints and tendons.
From now on, my Health is my #1 priority.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:05 PM (VO0ln)

Ouch! Sorry you are going through that.

BTW, spinach is awesome if you blanch it for just 60 seconds in boiling water, dry, then put some oil in a pan, thoroughly brown a few whole cloves of garlic, then add the spinach until it reduces in volume and heats through.

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 09:08 PM (ed8K1)

104 Way to go, OM!

Small portions and lots of sex are great for losing weight.

The only downside, when you are younger, is practice makes pregnant.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 15, 2019 09:08 PM (u82oZ)

105 MikeyG, :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 15, 2019 09:09 PM (miE9U)

106
mikey, my knee has been repaired. So now I'm in pain while I heal. Thanks for asking.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:09 PM (VO0ln)

107 >>>Since retiring at the end of January I have been
walking with the dog 2-3 miles 3-5 days a week. I still weigh the same,
but the dog looks marvelous.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 15, 2019 08:40 PM (m45I2)<<<

Delicious, I'd say.

Posted by: SCOAMF at March 15, 2019 09:09 PM (yIBga)

108 100 Anyway, he was able to defend it well enough to get a phD.
Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:07 PM (z42AD)

Ah, that takes me back to the days when a statement like that meant something. Would you take it seriously now, if the topic were, say, Intersectional Feminism?

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 09:09 PM (ed8K1)

109 I've always hated running and stopped for about a year due to foot pain. It's been a struggle to get back into it. I prefer sprints and intervals rather than long steady runs. I'll usually walk 1/4 mile, run 1/4 mile, repeat for 2-3 miles twice a week.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

Interval training is how you get up to optimal levels. That's exactly how you start.

Next try walk, run, sprint, ,run, walk, run, sprint.

Then walk, run, sprint, run, sprint, and continue.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 15, 2019 09:10 PM (Hk+Y0)

110 'isn't Beto on Keto?
He quit after Trump's veto.'

If he wins it'll be neato!

Posted by: guy with the mentality of an 8 year old at March 15, 2019 09:10 PM (UdKB7)

111 Y'all know the nut Michael Savage? Guy is actually a phD in Nutritional Anthropology. His work makes sense.
If you came from American Indians, probably milk and milk products are gonna make you sick (or fat).
If you came from northern European stock, you probably can't digest olive oil.
If you came from Latin America, you better avoid wheat, etc..
Anyway, he was able to defend it well enough to get a phD.
Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:07 PM (z42AD)

I've wondered about that for a while. And what happens when people start intermingling? I wonder if some of the growth in obesity is due to a lot more mutts running around, whose bodies are overall less tolerant of different foods.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 15, 2019 09:10 PM (SgjGX)

112 Only thing I lose is my six pack I wake up with every morning. One spoonful of oats (carbs) at breakfast and I look like I'm 8 months pregnant with twins.

Just did a BMI a week and a half ago. 5' 9" 205 lbs @ 12.7 percent body fat. Cool part is from my last BMI I've gained 4 pound of muscle. Took 8 months though.

Posted by: JROD at March 15, 2019 09:10 PM (VQcx0)

113

mikey, my knee has been repaired. So now I'm in pain while I heal. Thanks for asking.

Well take it easy. Get better. Do most of what the doctor says.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 15, 2019 09:11 PM (LL1Be)

114 In the meantime, however, I'll be spending the next 2 weeks in bed with my bum leg after surgery, which btw, was a scary experience for me.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:05 PM (VO0ln)

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Make sure you get up and move some on your good leg every day. The one time I spent 2 weeks straight in bed, after a near fatal illness, I was not even strong enough to stand up, let alone walk.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 15, 2019 09:11 PM (ffYR/)

115

Splunge, I'm eating spinach RAW! I mix it in with my morning protein shake with blueberries, banana, and peanut butter.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:11 PM (VO0ln)

116 The worst thing is when you've been dieting off and on since the age of twelve. I can eat almost no carbs, low fat, low calorie - no diet actually takes weight off for me anymore. I keep a reasonable weight by living on kid portions and, when necessary, upping my exercise. I can never allow myself to gain weight, because it won't come off.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at March 15, 2019 09:11 PM (UOBq3)

117 WW works and isn't too difficult to master.

Just writing down what you eat every day, regardless of assigning a point value to it, will help in the weight loss. No one wants to see in writing how much they have overeaten.

Posted by: squeakywheel at March 15, 2019 09:12 PM (naIxY)

118 And Florida State beats #1 Virginia to go on to the ACC Championship. Congratulations Cavaliers on your choke job!! I look forward to another Round 1 exit in the NCAA Tournament!
GO HOKIES!! (they'll probably last longer in the NCAA Tourney than the Cavs.)

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 15, 2019 09:12 PM (WNAuL)

119

Well, I walk to the toilet and walk around to make my meals. But I can't stay on my feet too long.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:12 PM (VO0ln)

120 Would you take it seriously now, if the topic were, say, Intersectional Feminism?
Posted by: Splunge

Nah, but remember this was probably late 60's, early 70's when there was still some semblance of science in science degrees.
I always kinda felt my BS was bogus, and I grajimigated in '79. Pretty soft, even then, and it's an Life Science type degree.

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:13 PM (z42AD)

121 110 'isn't Beto on Keto?
He quit after Trump's veto.'

If he wins it'll be neato!
Posted by: guy with the mentality of an 8 year old at March 15, 2019 09:10 PM (UdKB7)

Someday he might make up for Alito
Bill Kristol's endorsement will make him Elite-o
He might have the brain of a Cheeto
But the Press will taste only Sweet-o

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 09:13 PM (ed8K1)

122 Posted by: Puddleglum at March 15, 2019 09:12 PM (WNAuL)

Not good but not as bad as the Zags choking.

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 09:14 PM (MAstk)

123 I have a pretty good metabolism I suppose. At 74" and 180 pounds I eat or drink whatever I want. Notice I don't say I eat as MUCH as I want. I think that is the key. Genetics enter the equation as well, old Pappy Eromero was the same way, and he made it to 80. That gives me 10 more years. Theoretically.

Posted by: Eromero at March 15, 2019 09:14 PM (qBNEP)

124 Kate Winslett
Look at the AIP regimen. My wife was on a constant diet her entire adult life... and gained 7 pounds a year.
She's now eating more than ever, and losing weight.

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:15 PM (z42AD)

125 Well, I walk to the toilet and walk around to make my meals. But I can't stay on my feet too long.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:12 PM (VO0ln)

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That should be fine to keep up muscle strength.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 15, 2019 09:15 PM (ffYR/)

126 115 Splunge, I'm eating spinach RAW! I mix it in with my morning protein shake with blueberries, banana, and peanut butter.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:11 PM (VO0ln)

Few have suffered as you suffer.

No, seriously, protein-shake aversions aside, I hear you, and I have been through something like that, and I thoroughly empathize. It is very isolating, to go through that, but you have a community here, and anything I can do to help you feel less isolated, I will do.

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 09:15 PM (ed8K1)

127 I had my last follow-up exam on my left eye Tuesday. The doctor said it healed perfectly with no post-op scar tissue, which sometimes happens and can be taken care of with a laser procedure.

Now I'm scheduled for cataract surgery on my right eye on Monday. Once both eyes are done, I'll have pretty much 20/20 distance vision and will only need reading glasses. Since I'm used to wearing glasses full time, I'll get new progressive prescription glasses that only correct for near vision.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 09:16 PM (sdi6R)

128
btw, is it a rule that CVS needs to hire at least one fully tattooed pharmacist at every location?

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:17 PM (VO0ln)

129
Splunge, I'm eating spinach RAW!

It's best if you eatsk it straight from the can.

Ah kuk kuk kuk

Posted by: mikeyG at March 15, 2019 09:17 PM (LL1Be)

130 Overweight with a preoccupation with food you say?

Posted by: PhilDirt at March 15, 2019 09:17 PM (vPAxF)

131 "I walk to the toilet and walk around to make my meals. "

Well la-dee-da.

Hic

Posted by: Hillary at March 15, 2019 09:18 PM (UdKB7)

132

You all are great.
I'd be going out of my mind without AoS to get me through the day.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:19 PM (VO0ln)

133
Rick, they take care of that other issue you were having with your fixed eye?

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:20 PM (VO0ln)

134 I'm doing the Keto thing and enjoying the heck outta it. Lost 30 lbs in two months. Generally, I fast 4-5 days a week with only one evening meal. My BP has dropped back to human levels and I'm now at a third of my previous med for it. My cardiologist isn't sure he's on board with my way of eating but he's happy as hell my blood work and weight is where it is.

I haven't increased my exercise much but, as the weather improves, I'll start to row again.

I do feel loads better.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 15, 2019 09:20 PM (Y4EXg)

135 Puddleglum, what is their projected seed? Not 8 or 9, I hope?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 15, 2019 09:20 PM (PUmDY)

136 I think much of the WW effectiveness is coming from the greatly reduced quantities of food I'm consuming

I think a lot of it comes from being extremely aware of what you're eating. The Zone was the same way. I loved calculating all the percentages, and it makes you very aware.

Posted by: t-bird at March 15, 2019 09:21 PM (asM0l)

137 Since Skankles is here....told ya so:

https://tinyurl.com/y5bu466j

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 15, 2019 09:21 PM (Jr9Sj)

138 @132 Soothsayer-good luck with the knee, I'm sure you'll be hard at it soon. Thanks for the condolences a few weeks ago about my grandmother. Didn't get a chance to thank others that day because I was at work. So thanks.

Posted by: JROD at March 15, 2019 09:22 PM (VQcx0)

139 My MiL's rule is you may not begin planning the next dinner until this one is over.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 15, 2019 09:22 PM (EZebt)

140 So, this vid on Chelsea Clinton...

https://tinyurl.com/y5qrpto9

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 09:23 PM (MAstk)

141 Michael Savage is 5'4".

I always thought he was taller......radio does that.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 15, 2019 09:23 PM (Z+IKu)

142 "Since Skankles is here....told ya so:"

At this point, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Hillary at March 15, 2019 09:24 PM (UdKB7)

143 I gave up sweets for Lent so by Easter I'll be 5 lbs thinner.

Posted by: kallisto at March 15, 2019 09:24 PM (tLRcG)

144 Not good but not as bad as the Zags choking.
Posted by: Ha

Worse performance by a Zag team in 20 years. Silver lining they are pissed off. I've watched them for a number of years alot of that in person. My parents had season tickets starting in the early 90's. My evil younger sibling stole them when she had POA for my father. I couldn't get them back.She sold the tickets (4 of them) on stub hub this year Didn't go to a single game. This team is different than years past, more business like and probably more talented than any previous team.

Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019 09:25 PM (uSoVh)

145 Physicians know diet as well as they know drugs. Diet they get from the USDA, drugs from salesmen.
Had you ignored every single recommendation of the USDA on food for the last 40 years, you would be healthier now, on average.
Animal fats are killing you! Eat poly-unsaturated fats!
Oops... those will kill you, maybe animal fats are something the human body knows what to do with.
Et cetera ad nauseum.

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:25 PM (z42AD)

146 Holy crap.
Watching 'Free Solo' again.
The rope-free ascent of El Capitan freaks me out every time.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 15, 2019 09:26 PM (LL1Be)

147 A glass of wine a day? What's the diet where you can drink all you want?
Posted by: rickl
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For better or worse, I have spent a good deal of time with lawyers. Perusing your statement, I see that 'glass' is not at well-defined. Therefore, it may be interpreted by the reader as they are inclined, i.e., 64 ozs, 128 ozs., etc., without objection.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 15, 2019 09:26 PM (xSo9G)

148 Breaking OT News.

Dr Beverly Crusher has fallen under investigation as to how her son Will was admitted to the Star Fleet Academy.

Film at 11.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2019 09:27 PM (0tfLf)

149 Bulk up while you can, serfs! 11 Mos 14 days until we die!

Posted by: AOC at March 15, 2019 09:27 PM (/u3X2)

150 133
Rick, they take care of that other issue you were having with your fixed eye?
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 15, 2019 09:20 PM (VO0ln)

That fixed itself later Saturday afternoon. Since there is nothing physically wrong with that eye, I think it might have been caused by the steroid skin cream I started using for my psoriasis a week earlier. The package insert said that vision problems is a potential side effect. I stopped using it for a couple of days and my vision returned to normal. I started it again and am using it sparingly. If the blurry vision returns, I'll stop it.

It's a long story, but psoriasis is a side effect of my cancer treatment. It's pretty bad, but is fairly tolerable as side effects go.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

151 Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019 09:25 PM

You in Spokane?

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 09:27 PM (MAstk)

152 This team is different than years past, more business like and probably more talented than any previous team.
Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019

*******

Fully expect the Zags to make it to the finals.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2019 09:28 PM (0tfLf)

153 Oh - about the salt intake: On the days I fast, I only do hot water, salt and black coffee. As I said, my blood work is fine.
The medical community seems to be united in trying to get everyone into Type 2 diabeetus.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 15, 2019 09:29 PM (Y4EXg)

154
You in Spokane?
Posted by: Ha

50+ miles north of the ant nest

Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019 09:29 PM (uSoVh)

155 50+ miles north of the ant nest
Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019 09:29 PM (uSoVh)

*****

Some great white tail hunting up there!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 15, 2019 09:29 PM (0tfLf)

156 50+ miles north of the ant nest

...

I'm about 5 miles from campus.

Posted by: Ha at March 15, 2019 09:30 PM (MAstk)

157 I lost 50 lbs. 2 years ago. I gained 15 of it back last year working 3rd shift. I'm back on 1st shift but am plateaued at 5'7" 190lbs. Lab numbers are good and I feel fine. I eat or drink virtually nothing processed 6 days a week. (Eggs, fruit, cheese, nuts, chicken, pork, beef, brown rice, peas, H2O.) Sunday is comfort food day. Moderation in everything...including moderation.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at March 15, 2019 09:30 PM (vQUp6)

158 145 Physicians know diet as well as they know drugs. Diet they get from the USDA, drugs from salesmen.
Had you ignored every single recommendation of the USDA on food for the last 40 years, you would be healthier now, on average.
Animal fats are killing you! Eat poly-unsaturated fats!
Oops... those will kill you, maybe animal fats are something the human body knows what to do with.
Et cetera ad nauseum.
Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:25 PM (z42AD)

USDA wants a diet that works for Womenz.

Men need red meat. Its a needed element to build testosterone. Which is of course why the USDA does not want us to eat red meat.

Same with the push to get men to do Yoga. Yoga does not build testosterone, stressing major muscle groups does (squats, bench, curls).

And the other thing that builds testosterone? WINNING. Which is why they don't want kids to even keep score anymore.

They are literally destroying the things that make Men Men.

Posted by: Don Q at March 15, 2019 09:31 PM (NgKpN)

159 There's light treatment for psoriasis rickl.

Posted by: kallisto at March 15, 2019 09:32 PM (tLRcG)

160 Posted by: SMOD Keeper at March 15, 2019 09:30 PM (vQUp6)

Yup... just did 4 days of High Protein and almost no carbs.

Tonight? Pizza night!

You can be good, without being a Saint or Martyr.

Posted by: Don Q at March 15, 2019 09:32 PM (NgKpN)

161 About 1/3 of Americans over 40 are now taking statins.
Friggin' one out of three! How did we ever get to living this long without them?
I don't think medicine is as much advanced as we are led to believe. I think, throw out anti-biotics, and good sanitation, and our physicians are still fundamentally horse leeches.
YMMV

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:33 PM (z42AD)

162 So, first I had bronchitis. REALLY bad. Got the antibiotics, it was clearing up.

THEN I got a stomach flu. Two days worshipping at the porcelain altar.

THEN we were watching out youngest grandson.

15 Months old.

Over. 30. Pounds.

It was like 10 days of weight training.

So I'm down about 15-16 pounds over the last month and a half.

And I really cut back on my beer intake.

Next up try some sort of low-carb diet to see if it sticks.

Think it'll work?

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at March 15, 2019 09:33 PM (T09ml)

163
Well, turns out the Loughlin brat didn't even bother to attend USC. She skipped the first week of classes to fly to Fiji and do vapid selfie taking shit.

She has now dropped out of USC. She quit before she was expelled.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 15, 2019 09:34 PM (f1Vqw)

164 135
Puddleglum, what is their projected seed? Not 8 or 9, I hope?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie

8 or 9 is what I've seen for the Hokies. I think they can do some damage but we'll see.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 15, 2019 09:35 PM (WNAuL)

165 I'm about 5 miles from campus.
Posted by: Ha

Grew up in a rural fringe area of Spokane Valley. I'm not designed to live in "urban " settings. That being said I have 300k of commuting during the periods I worked in the valley. If you are around my kids age Spokane is a nice place to live. My daughter and son in law live on the north side. He's a GU Law school grad If you're my age, from my perspective,sucks to be you.

Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019 09:37 PM (uSoVh)

166 Well I just spent an hour and a half watching a horrible movie. I finally gave up it was so bad.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 15, 2019 09:37 PM (dUJdY)

167 She has now dropped out of USC. She quit before she was expelled.

Posted by: publius
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That will go on your permanent record young lady!! Now you'll never get a job!

Posted by: Tonypete at March 15, 2019 09:38 PM (Y4EXg)

168 I have never observed low calorie diets working over the long term for anyone.

It seems that it is a matter of figuring out which foods are inflammatory to the individual, then eliminating those foods. I can't eat wheat or much sugar.

My own diet is high in fat, but I get 8-10 hours of high-impact excercise a week.

People on a very strict Keto diet risk burning muscle. And the heart is a muscle.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 15, 2019 09:38 PM (TdMsT)

169 About 1/3 of Americans over 40 are now taking statins.
Friggin' one out of three! How did we ever get to living this long without them?
I don't think medicine is as much advanced as we are led to believe. I think, throw out anti-biotics, and good sanitation, and our physicians are still fundamentally horse leeches.
YMMV
Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:33 PM (z42AD)

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I took statins for 15 years, right up until I got a disease called Rhabdomyolysis. It shut down my liver and kidneys, almost killing me. One of the possible causes of that disease is long term statin use. I'll never touch them again.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 15, 2019 09:39 PM (ffYR/)

170 She has now dropped out of USC. She quit before she was expelled.

Posted by: publius

Wonder what mommy and daddy think of that now. That is stinking hilarious!

Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019 09:39 PM (uSoVh)

171 Wonder what mommy and daddy think of that now. That is stinking hilarious!

Posted by: Sock monkey wanted
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She'd be an ignorant slut no matter where she went, or didn't go. Hosebags gotta hosebag. I noticed she disabled comments on all of her Utube droppings.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 15, 2019 09:41 PM (Y4EXg)

172 Disregard the steak points - they should be set at 0.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 15, 2019 09:42 PM (NMAzL)

173 166 Well I just spent an hour and a half watching a horrible movie. I finally gave up it was so bad.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 15, 2019 09:37 PM (dUJdY)
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What was it?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 15, 2019 09:44 PM (kQs4Y)

174 People on a very strict Keto diet risk burning muscle. And the heart is a muscle.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 15, 2019 09:38 PM (TdMsT)

Where did you hear that?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 15, 2019 09:45 PM (NMAzL)

175
The funny thing is the brat was already making "upper 6 figures" income. That's ridiculous, but she was a YouTube star with a following and was being paid good money by various companies to hawk their shit.

Mommy and daddy were worth tens of millions.

And they threw all that away just to get Precious into USC.

They were "competitive parents", going around bragging about Precious in their circle of vapid Hollywood elite friends.

Precious had to attend college and get a degree so they could have that notch in their belts.

Precious would've been a little mini-Kardashian otherwise, but their desire to have the college notch in their belt has ruined Precious.

Precious is now as radioactive as Mummy is.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 15, 2019 09:45 PM (f1Vqw)

176 My husband is a Pepsi addict. He'll drink Coke if he absolutely has to but Pepsi is his true love. Well Mountain Dew runs a distant 2nd.

Posted by: Tuna at March 15, 2019 09:46 PM (jm1YL)

177 167
She has now dropped out of USC. She quit before she was expelled.

Posted by: publius
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That will go on your permanent record young lady!! Now you'll never get a job!

Posted by: Tonypete

We'll hire her and her mom!

Posted by: Vivid at March 15, 2019 09:49 PM (WNAuL)

178 Cherry Pepsi I'd better than cherry coke but not as good as cherry Dr Pepper

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 15, 2019 09:49 PM (PUmDY)

179 She has now dropped out of USC. She quit before she was expelled.

Posted by: publius
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That will go on your permanent record young lady!! Now you'll never get a job!

Posted by: Tonypete at March 15, 2019 09:38 PM (Y4EXg)

If you can get away with mom and dad bribing your way into USC, and if you can then blow off the first week of classes to, I'm betting, whore yourself out on some guy's yacht, I doubt you'll ever have to worry much about putting a resume' together.

Some hedge fund wannabe will wife her up and she'll be set for life.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 15, 2019 09:50 PM (j/h1f)

180 I'm not sure I can comment on diets. I still have the metabolism of a squirrel. To me exercise has always been the key. I took a hiatus from TKD last summer because care for the paterfamilias had become so demanding. I've gained 15 lbs in that time. I run a BB program for kids at the elementary school in my area. Stsrts next. I fear there will be some pain on my part. Found someone to come in to give me some respite with dad so I told my TKD instructor I am going to start back up in April. I'm going to getfit/stay fit or die trying.

Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019 09:52 PM (uSoVh)

181 178 Cherry Pepsi I'd better than cherry coke but not as good as cherry Dr Pepper
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 15, 2019 09:49 PM (PUmDY)

I'm not a big soda drinker, but alexthechick turned me on to Cheerwine. That stuff is awesome. It's mainly a southern thing. The only place I've found it here in PA is Wegman's.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 09:52 PM (sdi6R)

182 Wow, CM.
Horrible.
And LadyL that seems to be the basis of the AIP regimens and the quick 30.
People actually crave foods that inflame them. I don't get it. It's counter intuitive, but there it is. I'm a believer.

Posted by: MarkY at March 15, 2019 09:53 PM (xTMnC)

183 >> Some hedge fund wannabe will wife her up

Maybe in a few years, but Precious is radioactive now.

She's gonna go through a little dry spell.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 15, 2019 09:53 PM (f1Vqw)

184 My husband is a Pepsi addict. He'll drink Coke if he absolutely has to but Pepsi is his true love. Well Mountain Dew runs a distant 2nd.
Posted by: Tuna at March 15, 2019 09:46 PM (jm1YL)

I miss the old cola wars ads from back in the day.

Coca Cola once called Pepsi "belly wash" if I remember right.

Mountain Dew had Willy the Hillbilly on it's bottles.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 15, 2019 09:53 PM (Z+IKu)

185 I'm going to getfit/stay fit or die trying.
Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019 09:52 PM (uSoVh)

Careful what you speak into existence.

I said the same thing, word for word, last summer. Lost 30 pounds, then had a heart attack.

I leave off the "or die trying" part now.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 15, 2019 09:54 PM (j/h1f)

186 UGa and Ga Tech are insanely competitive for Ga residents due to Hope scholarships.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 15, 2019 09:54 PM (PUmDY)

187 It's almost like college is a joke. Huh.

Posted by: Regular joe at March 15, 2019 09:54 PM (6/uwW)

188 Collegiate athletics are far worse than this latest bribery scandal. I don't see the same vitriol against those 'student' athletes that don't go to class and are getting nice benefits from boosters.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at March 15, 2019 09:54 PM (2DOZq)

189 170 She has now dropped out of USC. She quit before she was expelled.

Posted by: publius

Heard she bought a stripper pole from Amazon.
She's hot, no doubt about it but once she opens her mouth a bag of hammers sounds more intelligent.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 15, 2019 09:54 PM (QMwOT)

190 I took statins for 15 years, right up until I got a disease called Rhabdomyolysis. It shut down my liver and kidneys, almost killing me. One of the possible causes of that disease is long term statin use. I'll never touch them again.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 15, 2019 09:39 PM (ffYR/)

Doctor said based on my genetic makeup, statins will do nothing for me, so won't prescribe them for me, sounds like it's for the best!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 15, 2019 09:55 PM (f3oO4)

191 Code Monkey like Tab and Mountain Dew.

Posted by: Code Monkey at March 15, 2019 09:55 PM (ykYG2)

192 ome hedge fund wannabe will wife her up

Maybe in a few years, but Precious is radioactive now.

She's gonna go through a little dry spell.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 15, 2019 09:53 PM (f1Vqw)

Probably, but she'll get thru it. Precious will just say it wasn't her fault she has overprotective parents!!! End of story.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 15, 2019 09:55 PM (j/h1f)

193 ''Mountain Dew had Willy the Hillbilly on it's bottles. ''

I knew a guy at work years ago who swore that Mountain Dew and a big blueberry muffin was the "Breakfast of Champions".

Posted by: Tuna at March 15, 2019 09:56 PM (jm1YL)

194 Soda pop? The thread is about soda pop?

Sheeesh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 15, 2019 09:56 PM (4knXT)

195 >> We'll hire her and her mom!
Posted by: Vivid

Beat ya to 'em, dinosaur.

We're gonna do the first real mother-daughter scene with the two of them.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 15, 2019 09:56 PM (f1Vqw)

196 What was it?

Burnt Offerings. Good cast but horrible movie. Bette David, Oliver Reed and Karen Black.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 15, 2019 09:56 PM (dUJdY)

197
That was so to be a Brazzers sock, dammit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 15, 2019 09:57 PM (f1Vqw)

198 *Bette Davis. This was made in the 70's categorized as a horror movie.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 15, 2019 09:57 PM (dUJdY)

199 Soda pop? The thread is about soda pop?
Sheeesh.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 15, 2019 09:56 PM (4knXT)

Dr. Pepper or Mr. Pibb?.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 15, 2019 09:57 PM (Z+IKu)

200 Last April I started on Nutrisystem out of desperation. I wasn't sure I would like the food or stick with it, but I figured I needed to do something. Eleven months later, I've lost 74 pounds.

I like the convenience of the NS prepared food, but I also like the flexibility of eating regular food and fitting it into my diet, too. Instead of counting carbs, which I did in the past on Atkins, I count grams of protein and fiber. Breakfast is 240-360 calories, 10+ grams of proteins and 1+ gram of fiber; morning snack is 80-120 calories and 5+ grams of protein; lunch is 160-240 calories, 5+ grams of protein, 1+ gram of fiber; afternoon snack is the same as lunch (160-240 calories, 5+ gr protein, 1+ gr fiber); dinner is 240-360 calories, 10+ gr protein, 1+ gr fiber; and evening snack is 160-240 calories, 5+ gr protein, 1+ fiber. I log my food daily, and portion size is important.

I'd like to lose another twenty pounds, but lately my weight loss has slowed to a pound a week. I'm still technically overweight, but I'm okay with where I am now. I plan on sticking with Nutrisystem for another couple of months, and then I'll reevaluate.

Posted by: biancaneve at March 15, 2019 09:58 PM (hkMx0)

201 ''She's gonna go through a little dry spell. ''

I see drugh addiction in her future, then a stint in rehab, then the bottom rung talk show circuit.

Posted by: Tuna at March 15, 2019 09:58 PM (jm1YL)

202
We're gonna do the first real mother-daughter scene with the two of them.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 15, 2019 09:56 PM (f1Vqw)

You, or Miley?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 15, 2019 09:58 PM (j/h1f)

203 March 15, 2019 09:38 PM (TdMsT)

Where did you hear that?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 15, 2019 09:45 PM (NMAzL)

The dietician who worked for me when I was a health dept administrator.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 15, 2019 09:58 PM (TdMsT)

204 ONT comics

Posted by: me at March 15, 2019 09:59 PM (8oK3c)

205 184
Mountain Dew had Willy the Hillbilly on it's bottles.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 15, 2019 09:53 PM (Z+IKu)

1960s Mountain Dew commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_eSUBotF64

Could you imagine that being made today? It had {shudder} guns in it.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 09:59 PM (sdi6R)

206 I leave off the "or die trying" part now.

Every year when I start the BB program I check with parents and what ever school employees are there late to make sure I have a CPR qualified person around

Posted by: Sock monkey wanted: organ grinder, willing to train at March 15, 2019 09:59 PM (uSoVh)

207 179 She has now dropped out of USC. She quit before she was expelled.

Posted by: publius
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That will go on your permanent record young lady!! Now you'll never get a job!

Her kind never need college. All they do is run the Hollywood scene and get passed around until some rich elderly gentleman picks her up as a trophy wife.

She just wanted the "college experience of partying and going to games".

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 15, 2019 10:00 PM (QMwOT)

208
ITC, did you go to the Waxahachie gun show?
Posted by: Ben Had at March 15, 2019 08:43 PM (j9bhg)

Nope, probably not going this time, I'm working this weekend, so I have to pass.

Besides, the Wax show is usually fairly small in comparison to the shows up in Mesquite, Ft Worth and Lewisville.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 15, 2019 10:00 PM (eXA4G)

209 Baby Jane? The cooked rat scene is bizarre. Who would take the time to do that?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 15, 2019 10:00 PM (PUmDY)

210 I was diagnosed with diabetes 4 years ago and weighed about 200 lbs. Managing diabetes with drugs is tricky and a lot of effort. So I bought a trainer I could just bolt my bike into and ride the bike any time I want but especially after dinner. At first it was a chore but now I ride for 30 minutes 2 hours after dinner, about 5 miles. Blood sugar is normal my weight is 165 lbs and my resting heart rate went from 85 bpm to <60. I ride about 50 miles per week, more in the summer. It helps to watch bike racing on TV for inspiration.

Posted by: davo at March 15, 2019 10:01 PM (sMLEE)

211 I have never observed low calorie diets working over the long term for anyone.

It seems that it is a matter of figuring out which foods are inflammatory to the individual, then eliminating those foods. I can't eat wheat or much sugar.

My own diet is high in fat, but I get 8-10 hours of high-impact excercise a week.

People on a very strict Keto diet risk burning muscle. And the heart is a muscle.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 15, 2019 09:38 PM (TdMsT)

Ditto. Although I don't know about the Keto/muscle risk you mention, I can say that the elimination of wheat from my diet (well, not precisely elimination, and not exactly a diet) had many positive effects. Let's just say I became aware of the effects of eating white-ish bread and pasta, and cut way back on both.

My diet is also relatively high fat with no ill effects. Even though for the last year a knee problem greatly reduced my exercise, there were no apparent ill effects (i.e. weight gainzz).

Posted by: HTL at March 15, 2019 10:01 PM (3oh1r)

212 Cherry Dr. Pepper w french fries or homemade potato chips...

Posted by: kallisto at March 15, 2019 10:01 PM (OxYQ1)

213 That 1960s Mountain Dew commercial couldn't be made today, because it had a sexy gal and guns in it. But making fun of white hillbillies is still perfectly acceptable.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2019 10:02 PM (sdi6R)

214 Dr. Pepper today does not remotely resemble the Dr. Pepper of yesteryear.

Posted by: Tuna at March 15, 2019 10:03 PM (jm1YL)

215 209. the rat was just dead, not cooked IIRC

Posted by: kallisto at March 15, 2019 10:04 PM (OxYQ1)

216 Grapico is awesome.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 15, 2019 10:04 PM (PUmDY)

217 nood

Posted by: Tonypete at March 15, 2019 10:05 PM (Y4EXg)

218 192 ome hedge fund wannabe will wife her up

Maybe in a few years, but Precious is radioactive now.

She's gonna go through a little dry spell.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 15, 2019 09:53 PM (f1Vqw)

Probably, but she'll get thru it. Precious will just say it wasn't her fault she has overprotective parents!!! End of story.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 15, 2019 09:55 PM (j/h1f)

Her and Stormy Daniels will be making some movies together . . . .

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 15, 2019 10:06 PM (QMwOT)

219 I have done paleo for 7-8 years now, sometimes more strictly, sometimes completely blowing it off for weeks at a time.

I cannot understand how anyone can walk/run for hours on end, much less get on a treadmill. I have been doing BJJ for almost 3 years now. I've tried various things over the years, but I think I'll be doing BJJ for at least the next couple of decades. If my body starts breaking down, I'd probably switch to yoga, wich can be a serious workout.

The last few weeks I've been incorporating IF (intermittent fasting) 4 or 5 days out of the week. What I'm doing is eating between 11-5, and only having black coffee and water outside that window. I've lost about 5 lbs since I started the IF.

I am 51, 6' 0", just got back under 200 lbs for the first time in a while and have something like 20% body fat. I want to lose another 5-10 lbs of fat and get to something like 15-16% body fat. Other than a couple of structural issues (loose knee, a couple of sprains from BJJ) I feel pretty much the same as I did when I was in my 20's.

Posted by: J Thomason at March 15, 2019 10:06 PM (15zwm)

220 She served it under one of those old school hotel silver half bowls. The horror!

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 15, 2019 10:09 PM (PUmDY)

221 i eat wheat i want, drink what i want, and tell people "Yeah, i'm fat, but you're stupid, and i can diet." when some asshole wants to make it an insult.

IDGAF: i'm almost 29, crippled, and with a body that's falling apart.

ima eat and drink what i want, since ima die soon enough anyway...

my diet has nothing to do with the eventual outcome, s why not enjoy the one thing i life i still can?

FIDO, Charlie Mike!

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 15, 2019 10:11 PM (rf8q9)

222 Bette Davis was perfect in that role

Posted by: kallisto at March 15, 2019 10:13 PM (OxYQ1)

223 Intermittent fasting is easy. Hard to eat a lot when you only eat during a 4 to 6 hour window each day. And skip a day every now and then.

It's easy to live on less than an average American eats.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at March 15, 2019 10:15 PM (bEpuz)

224 lifetime on WW. Im a fan. Im down over 40 lbs and have kept it off for 2 years.

Posted by: sassy at March 15, 2019 10:15 PM (BCTnr)

225 Thank you Oregon Muse for dozens and dozens of entertaining links in the past, but mostly for this recent WW diet thread because we all have this goal in common and I cherish your honesty in sharing with the hoard.

Posted by: MoJoTee at March 15, 2019 10:16 PM (2yhkc)

226 Intermittent fasting is easy. Hard to eat a lot when
you only eat during a 4 to 6 hour window each day.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at March 15, 2019 10:15 PM (bEpuz)

Wanna bet?

I can eat 3,000 calories in four hours without any trouble.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2019 10:23 PM (wYseH)

227 CBD,
Quit eating exclusively at the Cheesecake Factory and Denny's.
Ha!

Posted by: Nom de Blog at March 15, 2019 10:25 PM (bEpuz)

228 One month in a hospital for a shoulder injury !? Wtf kind of insurance would pay for that ??

Posted by: Kurt at March 15, 2019 10:27 PM (g4hfe)

229 221 i eat wheat i want, drink what i want, and tell people "Yeah, i'm fat, but you're stupid, and i can diet." when some asshole wants to make it an insult.
IDGAF: i'm almost 29, crippled, and with a body that's falling apart.
ima eat and drink what i want, since ima die soon enough anyway...
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 15, 2019 10:11 PM (rf8q9)

(Sadly shaking my head)

I suggest drinking more than that.

Posted by: Splunge at March 15, 2019 10:36 PM (ed8K1)

230 Best diet for loss is a fasting water diet with a few calories from various foods but low intake. Preferably liquid.

I lost 32 lbs in about 2 months. Problem is it will come back like gangbusters once you start to eat again.

There has to be a formula. We didn't all get fat over a few months. I personally believe WHAT we are eating is what the problem is. Plus sedentary habits.

I got lazy and bored so I didn't do much and I quit smoking and I ballooned like pig before the Christmas slaughter.

And getting it off is difficult while staying healthy. Hard to stay slim when you don't do anything and don't care. That's where a lot of America is right now.

Plus there's a magic age where you start losing your ability to metabolize anything (plus you are more active than you think and eat less than you think you did.)

Once it starts you have to take a quick hold because any laxness will put on weight which will discourage you and make you lazy even more.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 16, 2019 12:06 AM (XEtO0)

231 I just wanted to say, shoulder injury. *shudder* I broke mine about eight months ago, and i feel ya. Worst thing ever.

Posted by: pj at March 16, 2019 12:20 AM (qlTN9)

232 I need to get back on W Squared. Works when you work it. I gained about 15 lbs last year from stress weight thanks to a court fight with an evil relative stealing my senile father's money: I won, but I paid in blood.
Thanks for the inspiration, O Muse. Oh, you men out there? WW works even better for men: y'all lose weight on the plan at a rapid clip.

Posted by: Beverly at March 16, 2019 12:33 AM (n3hU5)

233 I should shed some pounds...might have to go easy on the whipped cream, bacon and vodka between snacks.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 16, 2019 02:50 AM (7ThbQ)

234 the snacks are usually something either cheesy or deep-fried.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 16, 2019 02:52 AM (7ThbQ)

235 Ill ask McDonalds if they'll deep fry a Big Mac for me...

Posted by: model_1066 at March 16, 2019 02:54 AM (7ThbQ)

236 I once was a fat SOB
Whose tits were way past my knees
So I went on a diet
But I doubt that you'd try it
Unless you want triple-double D's.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 16, 2019 03:00 AM (7ThbQ)

237 The Mediterranean tastes like shit....well 78% shit the rest immigrant porrige.

yeah Oprah is the way to go....................MEGA OBESE.

rub those big eyetie titties down with Olives OILS and never mind the size!!!

Posted by: saf at March 16, 2019 05:54 AM (5IHGB)

238 A while back, Ace was talking up the Time-Restricted Feeding kind of intermittent fasting. I was over 220 lbs and I wanted to lose weight. So I went with a 23-1 fast, cut all soda from my diet (I had been drinking 2 bottles of soda a day, and not those wimpy ass 20 ounce ones, I mean the manly 2 liter ones), and greatly reduced how many carbs I ate. So I ate lots of burgers, no soda and no fries. After about 8 months I was kinda worried because I had blown past my target weight of 175 and was at 163 and still falling. I added fries and breakfast cereal to the menu and I've stabilized around 165. I eat whatever I want (just not whenever) and don't count points, but still don't have soda (which makes me sad).

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at March 16, 2019 08:38 AM (lXZ2r)

239 "226 Intermittent fasting is easy. Hard to eat a lot when
you only eat during a 4 to 6 hour window each day.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at March 15, 2019 10:15 PM (bEpuz)

Wanna bet?

I can eat 3,000 calories in four hours without any trouble.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 15, 2019 10:23 PM (wYseH) "

I can do it in one, and have. Repeatedly. And I still lost weight. But it was generally on exercise days, and most of the calories were from protein and fats. I still recommend IF/TRF.

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at March 16, 2019 08:45 AM (lXZ2r)

240 Finished Chemo (Capecitabine) 4 weeks ago. Recovering from side effects. Getting an ileostomy reversal next week. Doc says high fiber diet. Going back to Keto and intermittent fasting ASAP. Yeah! Only 25 lbs to go.

FWIW, I did WW years ago and the only thing I got out of it was some great recipes I still use: Pistachio Fluff (vanilla yogurt, pistachio pudding mix, and drained crushed pineapple) and WW Gazpacho is a great chip dip.

Posted by: AzDesertRat at March 16, 2019 11:40 AM (/2TXu)

241 Soooo much easier to fast and then eat whatever the fuck you want when you are not fasting.

Posted by: doug at March 16, 2019 11:49 AM (XH1fU)

242 "241 Soooo much easier to fast and then eat whatever the fuck you want when you are not fasting.
Posted by: doug at March 16, 2019 11:49 AM (XH1fU) "

Exactly. I've tried other things (Jenny, Atkins, whatever) and it was always 'No, can't have that,' and I'd end up desperately wanting what I couldn't have. Now, whenever I want to eat something it is either 'sure, why not' or 'not yet.' There is never a 'no.'

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at March 16, 2019 01:19 PM (lXZ2r)

243 There is actually NOTHING wrong with drinking gallons of Pepai a day. Pepai is analogous to water, with protein, fiber and vitamins. It's basically a natural diet drink. Now...if you misspelled it and you actually mean PePee...well, you certain have a problem, you sick bastage.

Posted by: P_Ang at March 16, 2019 01:20 PM (FGPDC)

244 Eliminate sugar and reduce carbs below 100g/day, working towards 50g/day.
Health will improve and weight will come off. Many have lost 100 lbs doing this.
Read "The Case Against Sugar"
Listen to Vinnies podcast:
www.vinnietortorich.com
You're welcome

Posted by: F16 Guy at March 16, 2019 01:53 PM (3ESZ7)

245 Is this an open all day kind of thread? Hope so.

I started Keto this week, my first weigh in was today. I lost 15 pounds!!! In one week!!

Got the inspiration from my doctor during my annual checkup, she recommended keto due to my specific health problems. Books am primarily using are Wahls Protocol, who uses a form of Keto to treat her MS, and Josh Axe, who used modified Keto to treat his moms cancer. I have inflammation problems, the first thing I noticed was my feet and joints have much less pain. Excited to see what week 2 brings!

Lots of good YouTube vids too and reddit Keto subforums. I did a TON of research the month before I started and have a notebook am filling to keep all that info in one handy place. Notebook for Keto tips and one for my recipes. I was already gluten free and subbing zucchini and cauliflower for pasta and rice so I felt ahead of the game.

Best part is the diet has, at least this week, killed off all desire for carbs and sugar. I usually Dream about good bakery breads and pastas and European chocolate, those are my downfalls, and now I do not want them at all. It is so crazy.

One downside: I have had super bad Keto flu the last 2 days, I think due to dehydration and electrolyte imbalance. Hope to correct that and clear it up this week.

Posted by: LizLem at March 16, 2019 03:17 PM (TnaCl)

246 I'll give you one tip: I've started drinking a drink called Spindrift.

Spindrift is fizzy water with a small amount of fruit juice mixed in. Depending on what kind of fruit, a 12-ounce can of Spindrift will have from 1 to 13 Calories.

My favorite is the Blackberry, which has that decadent 13 Calories. But a close second is the Lime, which is 4 Calories. Third place is Raspberry-Lime, which is 9 Calories. I don't have a store near me selling Lemon but the web site says that is 1 Calorie.

IMHO, best served very cold.

Obviously this isn't going to taste like Sprite given that it's missing over 100 Calories worth of sugar, but I do like the taste of Spindrift. And I consider it guilt-free, close enough to zero Calories that I can just have one anytime.

They brag that they don't use any "natural flavors". They use fruit juice, and sparkling water. They claim that some pretty weird stuff can be called "natural flavors" but with their product you always know exactly what you are getting.

Nobody is paying me to shill for these guys, I just like the product.

http://spindriftfresh.com/

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