Victor Davis Hanson Responds to The Bulwark's Attack on Him<br><i>A Day After Charlie Sykes' Attack Site Smears His Colleague Hanson as a Nazi, The Very Virtuous David French Appears on Sykes' Podcast</i>

Victor Davis Hanson Responds to The Bulwark's Attack on Him
A Day After Charlie Sykes' Attack Site Smears His Colleague Hanson as a Nazi, The Very Virtuous David French Appears on Sykes' Podcast

A jagoff, supposedly an adviser to Mittens Romney when he was pretending to be Severely Conservative, performed the usual services for Pierre Omidyar and attacked Victor Davis Hanson for his book The Case for Trump. In doing so, he also served The Bulwark's primary mission, as explained by Charlie Sykes: to "taint" any Trump supporting intellectuals and leave them with a "stench," and "make people feel uncomfortable at dinner parties and in green rooms."

So bitchy, so small. This crew is filled with such ambition that they can think of nothing but reputation-smearing operations and Twitter OWNZ.

Hanson responds:

Schoenfeld only fuels the popular perception of The Bulwark Never Trumpers as an angry, coastal elite who are anguished that their warnings about Trump were ignored by both hoi polloi and their conservative "grifters and trolls.” In careerist fury, he now damns others for his own self-immolation -- as if the country must suffer for the sins of not listening to his own genius, which would probably have given the country a 16-year Obama-Clinton regnum.
That Never Trumpers at The Bulwark were wrong about the Trump nomination, the general election, and the first two years of the Trump administration seems only to have fueled their spitefulness. If Schoenfeld is representative of this rump movement, then they are engaging in projection.
How strange to suggest that writing a book about why Trump got elected and why he has done well is proof of one's careerist effort to gain favor with a politician or perhaps find employment in his administration. This is a charge against those who have never worked in a campaign or sought administration employment, leveled by those who most certainly have done one or both in the past and no doubt will in the future -- at least if they can pull off yet another careerist contortion in 2024.
The bitter hostility of Schoenfeld reflects the Trump-assassination theme pushed by celebrities. Just as Madonna, Kathy Griffin, and Johnny Depp vie to see who can most grotesquely envision Trump’s death, so too Never Trumpers seek ever-more-creative ways to gnash their teeth at Trump and his supporters. Instead of trying to smear those with whom they disagree, they might have at least offered a coherent defense of their own creed, such as it is.
Instead of shrill charges and exclamations, Schoenfeld might have explained why Trump got elected, and why the preferred candidates of The Bulwark did not. And why have Republicans not won 51 percent of the presidential vote since 1988, in an era when they’ve done well at the state and local level? And, most important, why exactly do Schoenfeld and his associates oppose a president who has enacted a conservative menu that was once mostly their own? Why do they attack a president who is trying to stop a neosocialist agenda that was once likewise anathema to them?
Were some always closet progressives, and have they now found Trump hatred a convenient entree into the progressive world?

Let me stop you right there, Vic: The answer is "Yes."

Or is it that Trump's agendas must be stopped because his handprints on them soil what they once favored?

No it was that thing you said before.

...
"Little rocket man" may or may not be a puerile presidential outburst, but not achieving annualized 3 percent GDP growth for a decade, or leaving the border wide open, or writing off the industrial heartland, or doing little to address minority unemployment -- or for 20 years soberly and judiciously giving billions to the Kim dynasty as it sought its present arsenal of nuclear-tipped missiles pointed at the West Coast -- may be a far greater moral sin.

If America had listened in 2016 to such Never Trump advocacy, we would now be in the eleventh year of a likely 16-year Obama-Clinton continuum, a tenure well on the way to completing the much-vaunted fundamental progressive transformation of the country -- to the detriment of millions of Americans. Donald Trump for the time being has interrupted that arc of history....

Schoenfeld was once a professed conservative who now conveniently adopts positions he once refuted, and he does so while in pay to a billionaire leftist who in large part underwrites The Bulwark’s invective to damage conservatives.
Since the malleable Schoenfeld is fond of historical allusion, so be it. There was once a proper Cold War term for what he has sadly turned into -- a useful idiot, whose loud but transient and minimal utility to the Left will abruptly cease when Donald Trump leaves office.
And then what?

The mention of "historical allusion" refers to Schoenfeld repeatedly comparing Hanson to Nazi propagandists, and then claiming -- in cowardly, womanly passive-aggression -- that he doesn't mean to say Hanson is a Nazi, just that he, like these Nazi propagandists, is using his education to argue in the service of evil.

That's all.

It's just a coincidence he keeps coming up with comparisons to Nazis, he assures us.

Meanwhile: Guess how David French stands up for his colleague Victor Davis Hanson?

By doing a podcast with Charlie "3-Wives" Sykes, who commissioned the hit-piece on Hanson.

Stay tuned: @DavidAFrench joins me on today's @BulwarkOnline Podcast... and we talk about this. And Jeanine Pirro.. and conservatism.. and abortion and. Well just tune in. https://t.co/JWZkkvTnRm https://t.co/OroPm65LzQ
— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) March 12, 2019

It says a lot about a person who collaborates with the editor of a garbage political site that just posted a vicious hit piece against one of your most respected colleagues who probably has helped you keep your job: https://t.co/7kyK7ST1Nh
— Julie Kelly (@julie_kelly2) March 12, 2019

And yes, while Hanson's response was published today, Shoenenfeld's hit piece has been up for at least one day and I think two.

A friend says: "Victor Davis Hanson must quit NR over this."

That, or make it clear that either French goes, or he goes.

Or maybe he should just tell Lowry: Professional courtesy is out the window, now; David French is a valid target for me. And if you don't like it -- fire me, and explain to the donors why French gets special privileges and I get a pink-slip.

Yes, I like that best. Put the coward Lowry into a position where he has to make a decision.

What venomous, sneaky little shits. All parading (waddling, really) around to show off their imagined "virtue."

David French shows as much loyalty to colleagues as Charlie Sykes does to wives.

Update: Alex the Chick points out this isn't the first time Lowry has embraced someone attacking VDH:

This is the second time that fellow "colleagues" at NRO have taken shots at VDH.
Kevin Williamson was, now, is everyone sitting down for this shocking turn of events, an utter, petty, nasty, horrid, small, pathethic twatling about VDH when he was hired by The Atlantic.
NRO took him back when The Atlantic gave him the boot. What was left of my respect for Lowry was destroyed at that point because you don't bring back someone who bad mouthed a co-worker they way Williamson did. You just don't.

Kevin Williamson did in fact go face-down, ass-up for his paymasters (brief though they were) at The Atlantic in attacking Hanson.

VDH responded here, vigorously.

I hope VDH takes that same attitude with regard to the cuck French.

Meanwhile:

Prominent NeverTrumper led org that took illegal campaign cash from Chinese nationals https://t.co/Qs4B2vAVpx
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel) March 12, 2019

Jordan Schaechtel:

While the media has extensively covered this information, little coverage has been devoted to the individuals in charge of the super PAC at the time that it accepted the cash from the China-backed outfit...
Mike Murphy is a high-profile NeverTrumper and a valued member of the Republican consultant class who was best known for working on the failed John McCain presidential campaign...
Murphy, like his close friend Bill Kristol, pretty clearly cottons to the Trump-Russia conspiracy theories.
Moreover, the GOP consultant, who is also a NBC contributor, frequently appears on television to advance the Trump-Russia conspiracy.
It is all too ironic that Murphy, who forwards the idea that the president is tied to a foreign government, oversaw an organization that was subject to a potential Chinese influence operation.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:20 PM

Comments

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1 Sponge

Posted by: FIRST!!!!! at March 12, 2019 03:16 PM (d8iVQ)

2 Please start with all of the unfunny and unoriginal grey box jokes......

NOW!

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at March 12, 2019 03:17 PM (d8iVQ)

3 Corgis notified.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at March 12, 2019 03:17 PM (d8iVQ)

4
HELP MEEEEEEEE!!!!!

IM BEING ANAL PROBED BY THE GREYS!!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:18 PM (8XRCm)

5 The Bulldork? What kind of name is that?

Apart from "appropriate."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 03:18 PM (oRUl9)

6 They aren't fit to shine VDH's shoes.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2019 03:18 PM (BXMxN)

7 Hey there!

Posted by: Gandalf the Grey at March 12, 2019 03:18 PM (ymnmz)

8 all the leaves are burning
and the boxes are gray

that's all i got, sorry

Posted by: lancewing plover at March 12, 2019 03:19 PM (84QUd)

9 So the Bulwark's stated message is to smear other conservatives? Ok. Sounds about right.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2019 03:19 PM (ycWCI)

10 I see a white box and I want to paint it grey...

Posted by: andycanuck at March 12, 2019 03:19 PM (Dh1wo)

11 Please start with all of the unfunny and unoriginal grey box jokes......

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at March 12, 2019 03:17 PM (d8iVQ)

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You mean like your moms box has lots of grey ??

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:19 PM (8XRCm)

12 that's all i got, sorry
Posted by: lancewing plover at March 12, 2019 03:19 PM (84QUd)

I went for a walk
on a winter's day.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2019 03:19 PM (ycWCI)

13 Right to Rise doesn't sound creepy at all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 03:20 PM (ptqGC)

14 the barrel awakes, stretches, reaches out for shelfie.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2019 03:20 PM (KP5rU)

15 13
Right to Rise doesn't sound creepy at all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 03:20 PM (ptqGC)

Reich to Rise, more like it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 03:20 PM (t6MX/)

16 I think if you pick VDH's side is just about any dispute, you're going to do pretty good.

Let me know if we can help by collecting hands for the Senate door for you, VDH.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:20 PM (xJa6I)

17 Please start with all of the unfunny and unoriginal grey box jokes......

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at March 12, 2019 03:17 PM (d8iVQ)

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You mean like your moms box has lots of grey ??
Posted by: fixerupper

I'm going to wash that grey right outta my box.
I'm going to wash that grey right outta my box.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 03:21 PM (LHT0w)

18 There is some kind of breaking news whereby Trump will shutter all 21 international immigration offices. Not sure if true or Fake News.

Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2019 03:21 PM (q177U)

19 Actually, Right to Rise would be a good name for a Viagra alternative.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 03:21 PM (ptqGC)

20 Rump movement?

I like it. I cannot lie.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 03:21 PM (t6MX/)

21 Wow that's so cool how everything is in a grey box now!

Off topic:

737 Max

Pilot: "Hey, the plane thinks it's stalling all the time, wants to dive."
Maint: "OK we replaced a bunch of sensors. Try it now."

Pilot: "Still dives on its own. Hey, none of those sensors agree with each other."
Maint: "Yeah, that happens. Just ignore them and fly the plane manually."

Pilot: "OK I tried that and the plane still noses down on its own."
Boeing: "Wow you guys are sh!tty pilots. That's why we put the MCAS in there."
Pilot: "What's MCAS?"
Maint: "What's MCAS?"
Boeing: "That's the computer thing that keeps nosing you down. Without that, this unbalanced plane could not fly. We didn't tell you about it because it would just confuse you stupid airmen."

Pilot: "Hey I just crashed and I'm dead along with 100 other people."
Boeing: "Wow you guys are sh!tty pilots."

Posted by: gp at March 12, 2019 03:21 PM (mk9aG)

22 TheCuckShed Podcast?

Posted by: Dead Horses at March 12, 2019 03:21 PM (awqYm)

23 I'm going to wash that grey right outta my box.
I'm going to wash that grey right outta my box.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 03:21 PM (LHT0w)

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Heh.... it WORKED!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:22 PM (8XRCm)

24 You mean like your moms box has lots of grey ??
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:19 PM (8XRCm)

Momma has a squeeze box, daddy doesn't sleep at night.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 03:22 PM (JgA4k)

25 I'm going to wash that grey right outta my box.
I'm going to wash that grey right outta my box.

IT WORKED!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 03:22 PM (LHT0w)

26 This is the intellectual equivalent of a pack of chihuahuas attacking a lion. Seriously, what a severe misjudgment to go after Hanson.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:23 PM (39g3+)

27 As my brother would say: All of the never Trumpers put together, don't amount to a pimple on Hanson's ass.

Posted by: irright at March 12, 2019 03:23 PM (pMGkg)

28 VDH beats them all.

Posted by: trapper's girl at March 12, 2019 03:23 PM (xc+81)

29 VDH has more class in his little finger than these cucked-up conspirators have ever had.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 03:23 PM (RD7QR)

30 Let me put it this way: if one should find yourself on the other side of an argument with VDH, you might want to examine your argument. Especially if you are an espoused 'conservative'.

Also, I have some spare Ancient Greek textbooks if you need to look up some of his references.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2019 03:23 PM (ycWCI)

31 Boeing: "That's the computer thing that keeps nosing you down. Without that, this unbalanced plane could not fly. We didn't tell you about it because it would just confuse you stupid airmen."

Yeah, I'm kinda thinking that the 737 has been stretched to the point that it's got CG problems and the MCAS is there to deal with airlines loading the plane to the (usually aft) CG limit.

But that's purely guesswork.

Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2019 03:24 PM (8erNz)

32 I mean, it's not like any of this is even surprising anymore.

Who do they burn next? Wretchard? Klavan? Spengler?

Posted by: Hikaru at March 12, 2019 03:24 PM (UnA8+)

33 boeing should tell the pilots to quit flying into black holes. black holes are not safe spaces.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2019 03:24 PM (KP5rU)

34 Is the Bulwark podcast anything at all like the Popeil Pocket Fisherman?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 03:25 PM (m45I2)

35 VDH has been the only reason to give NR a click. This schism is going to end, and I hope it ends badly for NR. VDH is a towering figure and going after him - the only worthwhile part of your miserable, failed intellectual business - is bizarre and self-destructive.

I am glad to see VDH standing up for himself and shoving this down their throats. These people need to stop and consider value, even if for just a moment. VDH is of value. I seek out VDH. I don't seek out NR, The Cuckshed, or any of the myriad greasy, pallid, mealy-mouthed magazines of their closeted leftist fellow travelers.

Just rename NR to "The Empty Closet" and be done with it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:25 PM (I2dne)

36 I guess VDH won't be speaking during Cap'n Bill's next cruise.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 03:25 PM (JgA4k)

37 We all know VDH can intellectually dominate the Bullseeker.

I want to watch him physically beat down Bill Kristol.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 03:25 PM (kCYWw)

38 Let me put it this way: if one should find yourself on the other side of an argument with VDH, you might want to examine your argument. Especially if you are an espoused 'conservative'.

Yeah its not like he can't be wrong but he's of such a stature and intellect, with such education that I'd be seriously considering what I thought should he reject it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:26 PM (39g3+)

39 Just my guess, but I don't think you can find more than 5 or 6 real conservatives in Manhattan. It would be best no to listen to anything a Manhattanite has to say.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 12, 2019 03:26 PM (2LelM)

40 34; works just as well for catching fish.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2019 03:26 PM (KP5rU)

41 34 Is the Bulwark podcast anything at all like the Popeil Pocket Fisherman?
Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 03:25 PM (m45I2)

Also makes Julienne fries!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 03:26 PM (RD7QR)

42 Old and busted: The walls are closing in on Trump.

New hotness: The wheels are coming off the Trump train.

https://bit.ly/2CiwkrR

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 12, 2019 03:26 PM (+y/Ru)

43 36 I guess VDH won't be speaking during Cap'n Bill's next cruise.
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 03:25 PM (JgA4k)

More time on the Banana Hammock deck!

Posted by: Cap'n Bill at March 12, 2019 03:26 PM (ycWCI)

44 VDH will leave California soon is my prediction, so will I and many others.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 03:27 PM (RWv+/)

45 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy Who Shouts "En fuego!" at March 12, 2019 03:27 PM (sqQnU)

46 The Chinese (PRC) have no problem stealing from the Americans (or anyone else).
They don't believe in property.

Posted by: navybrat is not a food item at March 12, 2019 03:27 PM (w7KSn)

47 Went and read the entire article by Vic - devastating! And written like the true Scholar that he is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 03:28 PM (Kpl3J)

48 We all know VDH can intellectually dominate the Bullseeker.

I want to watch him physically beat down Bill Kristol.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 03:25 PM (kCYWw)
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Why bother with the effort of breaking a creature like Kristol? Even once you've broken him, he could never be trained to do something useful to VDH - something like pulling a plow on the man's farm is an unattainable goal for Kristol.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:28 PM (I2dne)

49 I want to watch him physically beat down Bill Kristol.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 03:25 PM (kCYWw)

He's gonna chase Cap'n Bill down the street while dressed as an Athenian hoplite.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (wCmLp)

50
So.

Am I prejudiced if I reflexively hate blue checkmarked Twitter folks without even knowing them??

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (8XRCm)

51
Dear Lord, Victor Davis Hanson makes even Chiquita Kruschev look like a mensa candidate compared to these fucking twerp homunculoids.

And, they're also traitorous, lying, deceptive scum. And whores.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (zBaqJ)

52 They don't believe in property.

Oh, they believe in THEIR property, they just believe in money and power over everything else. If you get away with it, that's greater esteem for you. They have literally zero moral compass, which is why Confucius had to write out damned near everything in specific detail to tell them right from wrong. And they still ignore it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (39g3+)

53 Even once you've broken him, he could never be trained to do something useful to VDH - something like pulling a plow on the man's farm is an unattainable goal for Kristol.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:28 PM (I2dne)

Quit eating the grapes, Bill!

Posted by: VDH at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (ycWCI)

54 The thing about the GOP not winning 51% of the popular vote since 1988 probably has something to do with their abandoning California.

On one hand, there's been various 3rd party candidates to suction off votes, note that Clinton never got to 50% either. But now, California is just one big DNC voter mill.

Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (7uiTk)

55 And at the same time, the GOP doesn't run up the score in Texas because, let's face it, it's going blue soon thanks to our suicidal immigration policies of open borders and anchor babies...and let's pay them for having 8 kids.

Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (7uiTk)

56 Pilot: "Hey, the plane thinks it's stalling all the time, wants to dive."

Have you tried rebooting it?

Posted by: Chris M at March 12, 2019 03:30 PM (eAZVt)

57 The NeverTrumpers are like Sauron after the One Ring was destroyed, spirits of malice that gnaw at themselves in the shadows, never able to take form again.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Break Progressive Minds with a Trumpinator From The Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2019 03:30 PM (hLRSq)

58 Victor Davis Hanson, the Destroyer.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 03:30 PM (t6MX/)

59 He's gonna chase Cap'n Bill down the street while dressed as an Athenian hoplite.

Or a Roman centurion. I bet VDH wields a mean gladius Hispaniensis.

Posted by: Basement Cat at March 12, 2019 03:31 PM (3C9q2)

60 56 Pilot: "Hey, the plane thinks it's stalling all the time, wants to dive."

Have you tried rebooting it? "

Next just try turning it off and turning it on again, see if that works.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 03:31 PM (Kpl3J)

61 VDH will leave California soon is my prediction, so will I and many others.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 03:27 PM (RWv+/)

The chronicles of the demise of his fifth-generation orchard make me sad. Even if he does want to leave, who will buy it?

Posted by: pookysgirl at March 12, 2019 03:31 PM (XKZwp)

62 The Cuckshed is open for business!

Posted by: Fritz at March 12, 2019 03:31 PM (2Mnv1)

63 The thing about the GOP not winning 51% of the popular vote since 1988 probably has something to do with their abandoning California.

On one hand, there's been various 3rd party candidates to suction off votes, note that Clinton never got to 50% either. But now, California is just one big DNC voter mill.
Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (7uiTk)
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And why bother? This is a good strategy, and that is surprising since we're talking about the GOP. Forget the popular and campaign carefully and intensely to win where it counts on the electoral vote.

I don't give two shits about the popular vote, and no one should. The only reason anyone ever brings it up it is because they're butt-hurt that the system as designed can thwart their vision of a nation held as slaves to their bicoastal betters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:32 PM (I2dne)

64 These people are nuts. Hopefully, it shakes out on the right side. What can't continue won't. The insanity is 'unsustainable.'

Posted by: Infidel at March 12, 2019 03:32 PM (9L2du)

65 I bet VDH wields a mean gladius Hispaniensis.
Posted by: Basement Cat at March 12, 2019 03:31 PM (3C9q2)

'Spanish Spatha' has more gravitas.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2019 03:32 PM (ycWCI)

66 51
Dear Lord, Victor Davis Hanson makes even Chiquita Kruschev look like a mensa candidate compared to these fucking twerp homunculoids.

And, they're also traitorous, lying, deceptive scum. And whores.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (zBaqJ)

I'm going to copy this and make it into a macro.

Well said.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:32 PM (xJa6I)

67 52 They don't believe in property.

Oh, they believe in THEIR property, they just believe in money and power over everything else. If you get away with it, that's greater esteem for you. They have literally zero moral compass, which is why Confucius had to write out damned near everything in specific detail to tell them right from wrong. And they still ignore it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:29 PM (39g3+)

==========

I remember during Occupy Wall Street when The Daily Show sent a reporter (it might have been Samantha Bee, actually).

She's interviewing the guy who's talking about abolishing private property.

"Okay," she says, grabbing his iPad, "we'll I'm just going to take this."

"No," he says with a hint of confusion, "I don't mean my private property..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:32 PM (L8CQp)

68 Also, I feel bad now that VDH will feel uncomfortable in green rooms and cocktail parties. I mean, for when he leaves his farm. I'm sure dealing with marauding hordes of illegals and meth heads who steal his pipes and seeds when he turns his back hasn't hardened him. Rural California, in VHD's words, sounds like Mad Max territory now...if Mad Max's world were populated by criminals on the federal welfare roles.

Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 03:33 PM (7uiTk)

69 NR didn't let me read it because, as I mentioned upthread, I do visit NR exclusively for VDH. Apparently I am out "free articles."

Here's an Outline link if needed by anyone:
https://outline.com/tGNGZ3

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:33 PM (I2dne)

70 VDH is worth more than all the conservatives in name only put together.

Posted by: Average Guy at March 12, 2019 03:33 PM (KqRop)

71 How do you say "please clap" in Chinese?

Posted by: Jeb! at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (p96cA)

72 "to `taint' any Trump supporting intellectuals and leave them with a "stench'"

Make the Ad Hominem Great Again!

Posted by: nick at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (H7FVI)

73 If Bernie Sanders had any balls, he'd run as a straight Democratic Socialist.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (RWv+/)

74 I think what bothers me most is, these guys are being criticized, legitimate criticisms, and they pretend--still--that there is no criticism at all.

Look, at least list 5 conservative positions you still hold.

Can you do that at all?!!

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (Gwf/Q)

75 OT

Another circuit court judge confirmed. The 3rd Circuit has now flipped to our side.

Posted by: Ha at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (MAstk)

76 How do you say "please clap" in Chinese?

Posted by: Jeb! at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (p96cA)

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"prease crap"

duh

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (8XRCm)

77
VDH: "And why have Republicans not won 51 percent of the presidential vote since 1988..."

What??
Bush got 53% in 2004.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (qBVKX)

78 Victor Davis Hanson makes even Chiquita Kruschev look like a mensa candidate compared to these fucking twerp homunculoids.

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Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) asks Wells Fargo CEO Timothy Sloan: "Why was the bank involved in the caging of children and financing the caging of children to begin with?"

Sloan: "I don't know how to answer that question because we weren't."

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WELLS FARGO CAGES CHILDREN!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (+y/Ru)

79
EM LONGAN FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (GEhPL)

80 Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:19 PM (8XRCm)
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Yep. Fits my descriptors perfectly. Well done.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (d8iVQ)

81 >>The mention of "historical allusion" refers to Schoenfeld repeatedly comparing Hanson to Nazi propagandists, and then claiming -- in cowardly, womanly passive-aggression -- that he doesn't mean to say Hanson is a Nazi, just that he, like these Nazi propagandists, is using his education to argue in the service of evil.

That's all.
- - - -

Holy f'ing sh#t!
Victor Davis Hanson is Nazi-ish(wink, wink)?!

These people have lost their minds with Trump hatred.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (W+vEI)

82 What parties do unprincipled scum feel comfortable at? And why anyone with a single functional scruple want to attend one of those parties?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (JgA4k)

83 And why bother? This is a good strategy, and that is surprising since we're talking about the GOP. Forget the popular and campaign carefully and intensely to win where it counts on the electoral vote.

I don't give two shits about the popular vote, and no one should. The only reason anyone ever brings it up it is because they're butt-hurt that the system as designed can thwart their vision of a nation held as slaves to their bicoastal betters.

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because, I'd think, we're starting to lose all the local races and all the House seats in California too.

Also, it's a sign that the GOP just gives up. The DNC (even though we laugh at hillary and wisconsin) runs up the score everywhere...look at this Beto Cruz BS in texas.

Giving up disheartens the base, tells the moderates the GOP is only for suckers in the south and midwest and that no proper person would believe in this stuff.

Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (7uiTk)

84 VDH is worth more than all the conservatives in name only put together.
Posted by: Average Guy at March 12, 2019 03:33 PM (KqRop)

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Well.... so is a bag of dogshit. But I see your point.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (8XRCm)

85 74 I think what bothers me most is, these guys are being criticized, legitimate criticisms, and they pretend--still--that there is no criticism at all.

Look, at least list 5 conservative positions you still hold.

Can you do that at all?!!
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (Gwf/Q)

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"1) Open Borders
2) Selling out to China
3) Endless wars everywhere
4) Paid Family Leave
5) Corporate supremism"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (L8CQp)

86 Since we were taking money from the Chinese it only makes sense that Trump had to be in the pay of the Russians.

Posted by: Right to Rise, Establishment Grifter at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (hLRSq)

87 regnum???

Damned near killed 'um!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 03:36 PM (0tfLf)

88 Yeah, I don't understand why Hanson still associates with NR, it only gives them a vestige of credibility.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 12, 2019 03:36 PM (xxAFD)

89 26 This is the intellectual equivalent of a pack of chihuahuas attacking a lion. Seriously, what a severe misjudgment to go after Hanson.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:23 PM (39g3+)

Every bull elephant in the jungle has a thousand gnats buzzing around his asshole.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 03:37 PM (oRUl9)

90 "Have you tried rebooting it? "

Next just try turning it off and turning it on again, see if that works."

In the movie First Man, during Gemini, that was SOP.

I've only flown in sims, but if I was a 737 pilot, and the stick shaker started during normal rotation, and continued throughout normal flight, and nobody seemed particularly riled about that happening repeatedly, I'd request to pilot a different type, or quit.

I dunno, maybe this stuff happens all the time, and only pussies complain about it.

Posted by: gp at March 12, 2019 03:37 PM (mk9aG)

91 87 regnum???

Damned near killed 'um!
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 03:36 PM (0tfLf)

Redrum. REDRUM!

Posted by: That creepy kid at March 12, 2019 03:37 PM (RD7QR)

92 73 If Bernie Sanders had any balls, he'd run as a straight Democratic Socialist.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (RWv+/)

Can a Democrat still run as straight?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 03:37 PM (JgA4k)

93 I think what bothers me most is, these guys are being criticized, legitimate criticisms, and they pretend--still--that there is no criticism at all.

Look, at least list 5 conservative positions you still hold.

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It's more like, where in the media world is a conservative position, we're already banned and the GOP doesn't care.

Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 03:37 PM (7uiTk)

94

Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise.

Posted by: Maya Murphy at March 12, 2019 03:37 PM (aKsyK)

95 Another circuit court judge confirmed. The 3rd Circuit has now flipped to our side.
Posted by: Ha at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (MAstk)

In "theory."

Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 03:38 PM (NFEMn)

96 NeverTrumpers are akin to a pack of Chihuahuas trying to bite the tires off an 18-wheeler.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 12, 2019 03:38 PM (5hE5B)

97 Holy moly, girl wood. Loud ass military flying over.

Posted by: Infidel at March 12, 2019 03:38 PM (9L2du)

98 Reading is getting behind this afternoon, now to read this thread

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 03:38 PM (BbGew)

99 95 Another circuit court judge confirmed. The 3rd Circuit has now flipped to our side.
Posted by: Ha at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (MAstk)

In "theory."
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 03:38 PM (NFEMn)

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Better than definitely the other way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:38 PM (L8CQp)

100 Heh, in a continuing display of pettiness, Speaker Pelosi revoked the office space given to VP Pence by Paul Ryan

http://tinyurl.com/yydp5raw

Not like he ever used it but really?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:38 PM (39g3+)

101 The Bullprep is TMZ for ugly people.

Posted by: El Kabong at March 12, 2019 03:38 PM (ZqktU)

102 Every bull elephant in the jungle has a thousand gnats buzzing around his asshole.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 03:37 PM (oRUl9)

+++
LOL. Perfect.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 12, 2019 03:39 PM (Kcf2u)

103 VDH will chew them up & shit them out !
*******
BREAKING: In 53-46 vote... Neomi Rao nomination has been advanced by Senate down party lines with confirmation vote expected by Thursday. If confirmed, Judge Rao will fill the seat on the DC Circuit Court left vacant by now Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

Posted by: AOCD at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (BqBId)

104 100: office space. two chicks at the same time.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (KP5rU)

105 Here's an Outline link if needed by anyone:

Thank you for the link-- much appreciated. I don't read NR at all any longer even though I probably have a few "free articles" left.

Posted by: Basement Cat at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (3C9q2)

106 "Okay," she says, grabbing his iPad, "we'll I'm just going to take this."

"No," he says with a hint of confusion, "I don't mean my private property..."

*******

The guy tried to make a distinction between 'private' property and 'personal' property. It was hilarious...and sad...both at the same time.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (m45I2)

107 Republicans are finding out their guys don't actually believe what they said, so are Democrats. Interesting.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (RWv+/)

108 Bush's 2004 victory was bigger than he got credit for. 53% popular vote, CO, NM, NV...

I do not care about the popular vote at all. Keep winning the EC. Thats all we need.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (wGbBR)

109 The Bullsheet.

Posted by: AMartel at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (xk/jw)

110 Schoenfeld? Have another donut, Koho.

Posted by: clutch at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (UcEJl)

111 Redrum. REDRUM!

I will note that the estimable Murder Burger in Davis CA got hounded out of its original name and is now Redrum Burger.

Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2019 03:41 PM (8erNz)

112 103 VDH will chew them up & shit them out !
*******
BREAKING: In 53-46 vote... Neomi Rao nomination has been advanced by Senate down party lines with confirmation vote expected by Thursday. If confirmed, Judge Rao will fill the seat on the DC Circuit Court left vacant by now Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
Posted by: AOCD at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (BqBId)

==========

She is an enemy of the administrative state, and most of those cases go to the DC Circuit Court.

Rao could end up being one of the great victories of Trump's presidency.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:41 PM (L8CQp)

113 >>"Since the malleable Schoenfeld is fond of historical allusion, so be it. There was once a proper Cold War term for what he has sadly turned into -- a useful idiot, whose loud but transient and minimal utility to the Left will abruptly cease when Donald Trump leaves office.
And then what?"

Even VDJ's insults are eloquent. Heh.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:41 PM (W+vEI)

114 NR didn't let me read it because, as I mentioned upthread, I do visit NR exclusively for VDH. Apparently I am out "free articles."

Here's an Outline link if needed by anyone:
https://outline.com/tGNGZ3
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:33 PM (I2dne)
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You mean they're behind a paywall now? You're kidding! When did that happen?

Posted by: bluebell at March 12, 2019 03:41 PM (f/bqp)

115 Every bull elephant in the jungle has a thousand gnats buzzing around his asshole.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Come for the biting political commentary, stay for the pure, fucking poetry!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 03:41 PM (LHT0w)

116 Pence to Pelosi- Thank You Nancy, I'll just work from home.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 12, 2019 03:41 PM (5hE5B)

117 now I may have to buy another copy of Prof. Hanson's book.

Posted by: tmitsss at March 12, 2019 03:41 PM (3MaAt)

118 A friend says: "Victor Davis Hanson must quit NR over this."

That, or make it clear that either French goes, or he goes.

Or maybe he should just tell Lowry: Professional courtesy is out the window, now; David French is a valid target for me. And if you don't like it -- fire me, and explain to the donors why French gets special privileges and I get a pink-slip.

This is the second time that fellow "colleagues" at NRO have taken shots at VDH.

Kevin Williamson was, now, is everyone sitting down for this shocking turn of events, an utter, petty, nasty, horrid, small, pathethic twatling about VDH when he was hired by The Atlantic.

NRO took him back when The Atlantic gave him the boot. What was left of my respect for Lowry was destroyed at that point because you don't bring back someone who bad mouthed a co-worker they way Williamson did. You just don't.

Now French. Unless French went on there and was vigorous in his condemnation of calling VDH a Nazi, and that is what happened, then there is no excuse for this.

All of that is, of course, tainted by my loathing of French and Williamson so lick that pillar of salt when evaluating my statements.

Also, and I'll try to be nice here, VDH is, hmm, how to put this, in the latter part of his career. There. That was polite. Why would he be sucking up for a job when he doesn't need or want one? I do think it is telling that the oxygen thief accusing him of doing so leapt immediately to that assumption.

Further also, no wonder the RINOs assumed Trump was on the take from Russia. They were and/or would have been.

Great Unmasking continues apace.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (mf5HN)

119 Schoenfeld was once a professed conservative who now conveniently adopts positions he once refuted, and he does so while in pay to a billionaire leftist who in large part underwrites The Bulwark's invective to damage conservatives.

*******

And there we find the key. Follow the money.
Petty little political whores.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (0tfLf)

120 Can we please stop calling these people "elite" or intellectual? Their ideas regarding free speech and freedom of expression show a lack if our country's founding principles.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (NjJUT)

121 106 "Okay," she says, grabbing his iPad, "we'll I'm just going to take this."

"No," he says with a hint of confusion, "I don't mean my private property..."

*******

The guy tried to make a distinction between 'private' property and 'personal' property. It was hilarious...and sad...both at the same time.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 03:40 PM (m45I2)

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I'm sure he really meant that there shouldn't be anyone with wealth above a certain level, which is dumb to begin with, but at least it makes more sense than, "No, not my private property!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (L8CQp)

122 I watched VDH deliver a brilliant speech regarding why NTs attack Trump over the weekend. In a nutshell, since 1946 there has been a belief that the US needs to be involved in everything happening in the world, and the US needs to pay for it. Trump comes in and says, "if it does not help Americans, we don't need to do it." and the neo-cons hate that.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (YslsA)

123 >>>You mean they're behind a paywall now? You're kidding! When did that happen?

Only SOME articles. VDH's article is the only one out today which is behind the paywall.

So he's one of their only writers people are willing to pay to read OR Lowry wanted to limit the piece's reach.

Or both.

Posted by: ace at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (PbpT7)

124 Victor Davis Hanson
Mark Steyn
Mollie Hemingway
Tucker Carlson
Sharyl Attkisson

are intellectual and incredibly brave and are always worth reading and listening to. Sure wish Andrew Breitbart were around to participate in this.

Posted by: corn and beans at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (tkNkP)

125 The original piece in the Bulwark, also via Outline:
https://outline.com/dDMdHj

The title of this one is Sophistry in the Service of Evil. Here's an excerpt that is typical of the original. Longish quote, but I'll tie it together:
Consider Hanson's treatment of Trump and matters of race. Throughout Trump's career, blatant racial prejudice has been a continuous thread, beginning with the discriminatory housing policies practiced by the Trump Organization back in the 1970s and extending into his presidency with, among other things, his observation that there were "very fine people" among the white supremacists violently demonstrating at Charlottesville and his almost obsessive references to the supposedly low IQs of various black politicians and athletes. Trump was also the leading proponent of birtherism, the campaign to prove that America's first black president was disqualified from holding his office.

Do these people not own mirrors? They have the gall to call VDH sophomoric in the title of that tripe? Calling out dumb-ass politicians as dumb asses is racist if they happen to be black? Things from forty years ago in a giant organization that may or may not have happened is relevant to policies today? Questioning Obama's questionable origin was a backlash against Obama's blackness and not his dirty pool and disastrous platform? Jumping on the worn-out Charlottesville bandwagon?

And these people - these fetid mental midgets furiously trying to protect their maggot-ridden rice bowls - accuse *Hanson* of sophistry?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:43 PM (I2dne)

126 Further also, no wonder the RINOs assumed Trump was on the take from Russia. They were and/or would have been.

Great Unmasking continues apace.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM

A delicious piece of insight, ATC.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 03:43 PM (0tfLf)

127 123 >>>You mean they're behind a paywall now? You're kidding! When did that happen?

Only SOME articles. VDH's article is the only one out today which is behind the paywall.

So he's one of their only writers people are willing to pay to read OR Lowry wanted to limit the piece's reach.

Or both.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (PbpT7)

=========

It may have to do with what's printed in their magazine or not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:43 PM (L8CQp)

128 The problem with Rao - get this - she thinks that girls shouldn't get drunk off their asses at parties.

Posted by: blaster at March 12, 2019 03:44 PM (9VeU0)

129 73 If Bernie Sanders had any balls, he'd run as a straight ~~Democratic Socialist~~ Communist.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (RWv+/)

Because "democratic socialism" is just a euphemism for "communism." The alternative to "democratic socialism" is "revolutionary socialism."

They're both communist movements; they just differ in how they propose to impose communism.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 03:44 PM (oRUl9)

130 oops

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 03:44 PM (oRUl9)

131 128 The problem with Rao - get this - she thinks that girls shouldn't get drunk off their asses at parties.
Posted by: blaster at March 12, 2019 03:44 PM (9VeU0)

==========

"We can't have women advocating for responsible women! Burn her!"
-Feminists

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:44 PM (L8CQp)

132 NRO took him back when The Atlantic gave him the boot. What was left of my respect for Lowry was destroyed at that point because you don't bring back someone who bad mouthed a co-worker they way Williamson did. You just don't.

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He sure slammed VDH in that piece - but he swiped at NR in general, too.

Rehiring him was a "Cuck Level 11: Grand Master Cucklord" move by Lowry.

It also made clear that these people have no commitments or principles besides mutual enrichment of club members.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 03:44 PM (AzW6q)

133 Isn't Rao one of these Christians the democrats have been warning us about? I hear that that's not who we are and all the other nonsense now.

Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 03:44 PM (7uiTk)

134 I watched VDH deliver a brilliant speech regarding why NTs attack Trump over the weekend. In a nutshell, since 1946 there has been a belief that the US needs to be involved in everything happening in the world, and the US needs to pay for it. Trump comes in and says, "if it does not help Americans, we don't need to do it." and the neo-cons hate that.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (YslsA)

That's why I think some of the NT's such as Max Boot and Ralph Peters--as opposed to cynical Democrats--actually BELIEVE Trump is the stooge of Putin. Why he must be, if he wants to disengage from the world......

Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 03:44 PM (NFEMn)

135 Also, and I'll try to be nice here, VDH is, hmm, how to put this, in the latter part of his career. There. That was polite. Why would he be sucking up for a job when he doesn't need or want one? I do think it is telling that the oxygen thief accusing him of doing so leapt immediately to that assumption.

If you look around, you'll note that everyone you've mentioned actually peddles their work to a bunch of different sites, neither VDH nor French nor Williamson is within the umbrella of one particular publication.

Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (8erNz)

136 These cucks identify as conservative but are really just traitors to America.

No one respects a traitor and definitley not the leftist twats.

Posted by: Czech Chick at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (J9wxX)

137 French had a psychotic break. I bet he harms himself in the near future. He's batshit crazy.

Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (nRWPy)

138 The title of this one is Sophistry in the Service of Evil.

Huh, one wouldn't expect them to be that honest and open about themselves.

Oh, they mean him? Got it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (39g3+)

139 I got doozy reading ATC

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (RWv+/)

140 I say screw these Nevers, bastards wanted Hillary and if not can't admit they were wrong about Trump

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (BbGew)

141 What parties do unprincipled scum feel comfortable at? And why anyone with a single functional scruple want to attend one of those parties?
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (JgA4k)
+++++++++++++
Parties populated with their intellectual allies.

Must be dreadfully bleak affairs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:46 PM (I2dne)

142 The problem with Rao - get this - she thinks that girls shouldn't get drunk off their asses at parties.

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I mean, who would believe in this sort of common sense. Plus, it's more like "women shouldn't stalk a guy and then claim rape when he dumps them." but I guess that doesn't roll off the tongue.

Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 03:46 PM (7uiTk)

143 Look up VDH discussion of Principled Realism, the Trump foreign policy.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2019 03:46 PM (YslsA)

144 I remember telling a good friend early in the 2016 race that Jonah Goldberg had become unreadable for me. He couldn't believe it and accused me of becoming insulated.

He's the same guy that wondered how in the world I kept myself from Facebook.

Posted by: DanMan at March 12, 2019 03:47 PM (XTiHL)

145 128 The problem with Rao - get this - she thinks that girls shouldn't get drunk off their asses at parties.

That, and the biological assumption of two genders, and the assumption that the Earth's climate is a stable system until proven otherwise, birth, death, sunrise, sunset have long been generally accepted principles.

Until Twitter, I guess.

Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2019 03:47 PM (8erNz)

146 I would never want to be on the other side of VDH. His response article is brutal and thorough. If the Bulwark wants to take a swipe at VDH, they better come with something stronger than this dipshit Schoenfeld. I almost felt bad for him. Almost.

Posted by: milquetoast bourgeoisie mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at March 12, 2019 03:47 PM (TPgeI)

147 141 What parties do unprincipled scum feel comfortable at? And why anyone with a single functional scruple want to attend one of those parties?
Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (JgA4k)
+++++++++++++
Parties populated with their intellectual allies.

Must be dreadfully bleak affairs.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:46 PM (I2dne)

The orgies are amusing and they cater the canapes or else I wouldn't go. [sniffs]

Posted by: NeverTrumper Cuck at March 12, 2019 03:47 PM (RD7QR)

148 Only SOME articles. VDH's article is the only one out today which is behind the paywall.

So he's one of their only writers people are willing to pay to read OR Lowry wanted to limit the piece's reach.

Or both.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (PbpT7)
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Thank you, Ace. Wow. I had no idea NRO was putting articles behind paywalls at all. I don't think I've ever heard of a place putting some articles behind paywalls and not others. Then again, I'm a Luddite so what do I know.

Posted by: bluebell at March 12, 2019 03:47 PM (f/bqp)

149 "19 Actually, Right to Rise would be a good name for a Viagra alternative.
Posted by: Jane D'oh "

Wasn't Fatass Navarro involved with Right To Rise? They blew millions upon millions targeting Little Marco for Jeb and let Trump slide right by untouched.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 12, 2019 03:47 PM (OD2ni)

150 Did any of you guys catch French's holier than thou appearance on Andrew Klavan's podcast? It was really sad. He's really lost all perspective. His overarching concern is the "conservative movement", but he refuses to appreciate the fact that Trump has been one of the most conservative presidents and is actually promoting what we want, basically because Trump is a jerk and not a role model.

It's like he does not see what the left is doing every single day. I used to respect him, but it seems like the Trump presidency really broke a lot of people's placeminds, which makes me question how sound their minds were in the first place

Klavan was gracious and allowed him to talk and asked good questions but he addressed French's wrong-headed claims the next podcast.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 12, 2019 03:47 PM (9hauA)

151 117 now I may have to buy another copy of Prof. Hanson's book.
Posted by: tmitsss at March 12, 2019 03:41 PM (3MaAt)

Good idea.

Done.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (xJa6I)

152 it would be a good exit point for VDH, who showed more than enough loyalty even as the fake-conservative traitors revealed their leftist intent, one by one.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (Cus5s)

153 I watched VDH deliver a brilliant speech regarding why NTs attack Trump over the weekend. In a nutshell, since 1946 there has been a belief that the US needs to be involved in everything happening in the world, and the US needs to pay for it. Trump comes in and says, "if it does not help Americans, we don't need to do it." and the neo-cons hate that.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2019 03:42 PM (YslsA)
+++++++++++++
If this is the one I am thinking of, it was a brilliant speech delivered at Hillsdale College. It was called "Victor Davis Hanson | America and the World, 2017-2018"
Link to anyone interested. Highly recommended:
https://youtu.be/yoAz6o4bUIA

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (I2dne)

154 >>sn't Rao one of these Christians the democrats have been warning us about? I hear that that's not who we are and all the other nonsense now.

Yep. Booker grilled her on how many gay people she had on staff, etc. Amazing how we've gone from live and let live/muh privacy to expecting employers to both ask and track LGBTQ staffers.

Mirror universe

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (W+vEI)

155 Trump comes in and says, "if it does not help Americans, we don't need to do it." and the neo-cons hate that.

I think that's the essential truth of it. They were never conservative at any level, they just believed the USA to be morally superior and a source of greatness that must be spread around the world. They were pro military not out of respect for fighting men but as a tool to "export democracy." Their foreign policy is stuck in the 1970s where we fix things by sending troops or money to buy people into a certain point of view.

Trump renegotiating trade deals is evil to them because those trade deals were structured around trying to manipulate behavior and activity in the nations in question rather than what is best for America.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (39g3+)

156 Parties populated with their intellectual allies.

Must be dreadfully bleak affairs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:46 PM (I2dne

Not two brain cells to rub together in the lot of 'em.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Break Progressive Minds with a Trumpinator From The Outrage Outlet! at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (hLRSq)

157 If this is the one I am thinking of, it was a brilliant speech delivered at Hillsdale College. It was called "Victor Davis Hanson | America and the World, 2017-2018"

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I'm pretty sure it's the same one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 03:49 PM (AzW6q)

158 VDH is probably not up on the latest Marvel movies and doesn't flirt fight about what is permissable as a pizza topping.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2019 03:49 PM (BXMxN)

159 Another circuit court judge confirmed. The 3rd Circuit has now flipped to our side.
Posted by: Ha at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (MAstk)

Now do the Ninth Circuit. Please.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 03:49 PM (oRUl9)

160 Bulwark to VDH: "Yeah? Well, the Jerk Store called and they said they were out of you!"

Posted by: fly gal at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (8TdcF)

161 I think I would like an intellectual four-way with VDH, Mark Steyn, and Thomas Sowell.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (vkS2Z)

162 I was still a Democrat when I bought Victor Davis Hanson's Carnage and Culture in 2001

Posted by: tmitsss at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (3MaAt)

163 "Can we please stop calling these people "elite" or intellectual?"

Call them The Influencer Ecosystem. The coastal dweebs whose greatest ambition is to be a TV talking head, and their supporting army of pervert marketers and agents, and their crews of empty-headed lumbersexual man-bun millennial techs.

I'm grateful VDH went pro-Trump. I really didn't expect it from him. His voice is really welcome!

Posted by: gp at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (mk9aG)

164 137 French had a psychotic break. I bet he harms himself in the near future. He's batshit crazy.
Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (nRWPy)

Don't tease me

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (xJa6I)

165 Giving up disheartens the base, tells the moderates the GOP is only for suckers in the south and midwest and that no proper person would believe in this stuff.
Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 03:35 PM (7uiTk)
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Yes, it does. The internal state politics are a different problem, and the candidate should make a campaign stop or two in CA for this reason to defend the local constituency but not focusing on states like CA during a presidential race makes perfect sense to me. On the other side, though, they need to robustly pursue and fund their local races and play the long game.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (I2dne)

166 The #NTs should be welcomed with open arms by the Cory Booker vegan administration; after all
they have perfected the art of producing bullshit without having any cattle around.Moo.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (Z4rgH)

167

These guys are sincerely out of it.

They can't hold a candle to VDH. He is so far above their level of intelligence, they need a pocket Dictionary for Dummies.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (0xPsI)

168 159 Another circuit court judge confirmed. The 3rd Circuit has now flipped to our side.
Posted by: Ha at March 12, 2019 03:34 PM (MAstk)

Now do the Ninth Circuit. Please.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 03:49 PM (oRUl9)

==========

I remember reading that it's actually really close.

We'll still see crazy rulings out of it because they do rulings on panels and there are a bunch of judges, but we're closer to parity overall than many realize.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (L8CQp)

169 Trump was also the leading proponent of birtherism, the campaign to prove that America's first black president was disqualified from holding his office.
_________________

Obama spent 20 years claiming that he'd been born in Kenya (as proven by the author's bio he submitted to his publisher, and allowed to go uncorrected for decades). So Obama spending decades lying about his place of birth is totes okay, but Trump questioning whether Obama was actually born in the U.S. is evil incarnate and clearly raaaaaaacist.

Bullshit.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (fqUgw)

170 Bill Weld considering primary challenge to TGE.: This is NT wet dream #1.

Posted by: kallisto at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (GOoUs)

171 If you look around, you'll note that everyone you've mentioned actually peddles their work to a bunch of different sites, neither VDH nor French nor Williamson is within the umbrella of one particular publication.
Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (8erNz)

I meant the accusation that VDH is angling for a job in the Trump administration.

I want the drugs the NeverTrumpers are taking.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

172 Yep. Booker grilled her on how many gay people she had on staff, etc. Amazing how we've gone from live and let live/muh privacy to expecting employers to both ask and track LGBTQ staffers.

Mirror universe
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (W+vEI)

Yet Booker is fiercely heterosexual.

Oh. OK. Sure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (oRUl9)

173 Wasn't Fatass Navarro involved with Right To Rise? They blew millions upon millions targeting Little Marco for Jeb and let Trump slide right by untouched.
Posted by: Benji Carver at March 12, 2019 03:47 PM (OD2ni)

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No wonder Jeb! was low energy.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (8XRCm)

174 I think I would like an intellectual four-way with VDH, Mark Steyn, and Thomas Sowell.
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (vkS2Z)
+++++++++
That would get hot and steamy (intellectually, of course) about a nanosecond in.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (I2dne)

175 Here's a thought. What if cheating is encouraged in safe blue areas as well as contested districts. There would be a variety of benefits in doing this, one of which is guaranteeing the "popular" vote.

Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (q177U)

176 It may have to do with what's printed in their magazine or not.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:43 PM (L8CQp)
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Oh you know, I think you're right. I used to read over there a lot (don't hate me) and even was a dead tree subscriber for years, and I have a vague recollection of them occasionally bringing an article out from behind the paywall of their digital edition.

Posted by: bluebell at March 12, 2019 03:52 PM (f/bqp)

177 Now do the Ninth Circuit. Please.

Work in progress, already the most radical and insanely leftist judge in American history -- Reinhardt -- has been replaced by Trump.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:52 PM (39g3+)

178

Right to Rise - The Pillsbury Doughboy story

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 12, 2019 03:52 PM (aKsyK)

179 Yep. Booker grilled her on how many gay people she had on staff, etc. Amazing how we've gone from live and let live/muh privacy to expecting employers to both ask and track LGBTQ staffers.

Mirror universe
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (W+vEI)

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"I have no idea, because unlike you, apparently, I hire my staff based on ability and experience, not sexual orientation. That is none of my business".

Done

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 03:52 PM (ffYR/)

180 177 Now do the Ninth Circuit. Please.

Work in progress, already the most radical and insanely leftist judge in American history -- Reinhardt -- has been replaced by Trump.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:52 PM (39g3+)

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Trump is on the 9th now!!!

heh...

That would certainly be amusing, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (L8CQp)

181 We'll still see crazy rulings out of it because they do rulings on panels and there are a bunch of judges, but we're closer to parity overall than many realize.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (L8CQp)

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Mitch screws the pooch on TONS of stuff.

The Judiciary aint one of them.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (8XRCm)

182 171 If you look around, you'll note that everyone you've mentioned actually peddles their work to a bunch of different sites, neither VDH nor French nor Williamson is within the umbrella of one particular publication.
Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (8erNz)

I meant the accusation that VDH is angling for a job in the Trump administration.

I want the drugs the NeverTrumpers are taking.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

Considering the brain rot on display in NT-dom, we might want to stick to coke and MDMA instead of whatever they're using.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (xJa6I)

183 These guys are sincerely out of it.

They can't hold a candle to VDH. He is so far above their level of intelligence, they need a pocket Dictionary for Dummies.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (0xPsI)

Yep. He's the real thing. The others are poseurs. VDH is comfortable in his intelligence and doesn't feel the need to preen, unlike the others.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (9hauA)

184 I meant the accusation that VDH is angling for a job in the Trump administration.

Yeah well, what they accuse others of, they would or are doing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (39g3+)

185

The lot are nothing but barely closeted prefers of bioman penis in their rectums, preferably BBC and uncut... ask me how I know!

Posted by: Juicy Swallows at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (n2qRY)

186 Is Lori Loughlin's prison strip search going to be televised?

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (OD2ni)

187 thought kristolmeth and the mailman's sperm accident were throwing their hat in the ring? rusted out taurus break down again?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (KP5rU)

188 Oh you know, I think you're right. I used to read over there a lot (don't hate me) and even was a dead tree subscriber for years, and I have a vague recollection of them occasionally bringing an article out from behind the paywall of their digital edition.

Posted by: bluebell at March 12, 2019 03:52 PM (f/bqp)
+++++++++++++
I was an actual NR magazine subscriber for a goodly while. I held my nose for Romney at the time, but I found their hagiographic treatment of Romney to be unsettling and dropped my subscription after it ran out that year.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (I2dne)

189 If you get a chance read Sultan Knish on The Democrats go Anti-Semitic As They Turn Socialist
He goes through the players in history of Anti-Semitism

Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (BbGew)

190 Rich Lowry has the journalistic integrity of Jonah Jameson.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (Kpl3J)

191 Trump is on the 9th now!!!

No, no not WITH trump By him

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:54 PM (39g3+)

192 181 Mitch screws the pooch on TONS of stuff.

The Judiciary aint one of them.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (8XRCm)

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He couldn't get John McCain to vote to repeal the ACA, but he can through Federalist Society jurists all across the judicial system.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:54 PM (L8CQp)

193 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/all-us-immig ration-offices-around-the-wo
rld-may-be-shut-down-soon

BOOM

Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2019 03:54 PM (q177U)

194 Considering the brain rot on display in NT-dom, we might want to stick to coke and MDMA instead of whatever they're using.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (xJa6I)

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Gold spray paint and amyl nitrate are BAD FOR YOU.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 03:54 PM (AzW6q)

195 It was a nefarious body double who appeared on that podcast show!! In reality I am a passionate supporter of VDH.

Posted by: David French at March 12, 2019 03:54 PM (LISuA)

196 "170 Bill Weld considering primary challenge to TGE.: This is NT wet dream #1.
Posted by: kallisto"

Have Bill Weld and George Will ever been seen in the same place?

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 12, 2019 03:55 PM (OD2ni)

197 I want the drugs the NeverTrumpers are taking.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

Considering the brain rot on display in NT-dom, we might want to stick to coke and MDMA instead of whatever they're using."

yeah, Bath Salts *never* turn out well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 03:55 PM (Kpl3J)

198 150 Did any of you guys catch French's holier than thou appearance on Andrew Klavan's podcast? It was really sad. He's really lost all perspective. His overarching concern is the "conservative movement", but he refuses to appreciate the fact that Trump has been one of the most conservative presidents and is actually promoting what we want, basically because Trump is a jerk and not a role model.

Where do these people come from that pursue the perfect in the opposition to the good?

Trump has been far from perfect. He should have shot Comey through the forehead in the Rose Garden on his first day in office, okay metaphorically, but he let the FBI get away. He doesn't have a wall, we're not bulldozing crowds of Central Americans back across the border. And his tone on Twitter isn't exactly Presidential at times, though it does cut through the bullshit.

But look, we've got this Nooyawk bimbo slagging off Reagan, who was the last President who could reasonably be compared to Trump, and Reagan was far from perfect both as a man and as a President.

He knew One Big Thing and as such he knew what he wanted to do and he broke the USSR but he let the PLO get away with murder (literally). He routinely capitulated on domestic policy giving in to the UAW and letting the Democrats walk away with their amnesty.

Nothing that Socialist Slag had to say about Reagan even approached fact, everything she bitched about we acclaim.

Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2019 03:55 PM (8erNz)

199 Can we force National Review to change their name to Wreckers and Saboteurs?

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 12, 2019 03:55 PM (2LelM)

200 194 Considering the brain rot on display in NT-dom, we might want to stick to coke and MDMA instead of whatever they're using.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (xJa6I)

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Gold spray paint and amyl nitrate are BAD FOR YOU.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 03:54 PM (AzW6q)

That explains so much about Mr. Popper's Penguins...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:55 PM (xJa6I)

201 170 Bill Weld considering primary challenge to TGE.: This is NT wet dream #1.
Posted by: kallisto at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (GOoUs)

It would just be a way to get the NTs to toss money down a rat hole. Which, come to think of it, is rather wonderful.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 03:55 PM (RD7QR)

202 it was a brilliant speech delivered at Hillsdale College. It was called "Victor Davis Hanson | America and the World, 2017-2018"

--

That's the one. Excellent

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 12, 2019 03:56 PM (YslsA)

203
Mitch screws the pooch on TONS of stuff.

The Judiciary aint one of them.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (8XRCm)

Speaking of reevaluating your view on a matter because of someone you respect saying hey I think otherwise, I've at least somewhat changed my view of Cocaine Mitch because Kurt Schlichter thinks that he is very effective at running the Senate and not just the judges.

That gave me pause. It's not like Schlichter is some squish. I'm not 100% convinced but I am more willing to give Mitch the benefit of the doubt now.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 12, 2019 03:56 PM (mf5HN)

204 175 Here's a thought. What if cheating is encouraged in safe blue areas as well as contested districts. There would be a variety of benefits in doing this, one of which is guaranteeing the "popular" vote.
Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2019 03:51 PM (q177U)

One of the many compelling arguments for the Electoral College. Another one is that a close election could necessitate a nation-wide recount, with all the prospects for fraud that that would entail.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 03:56 PM (oRUl9)

205 The Bulwark is so insufferable that even ultra squish Jeff B is taking shots at them on Twitter.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 12, 2019 03:56 PM (OD2ni)

206 Schoenfeld was once a professed conservative who now conveniently adopts positions he once refuted, and he does so while in pay to a billionaire leftist who in large part underwrites The Bulwark's invective to damage conservatives.

Since the malleable Schoenfeld is fond of historical allusion, so be it. There was once a proper Cold War term for what he has sadly turned into -- a useful idiot, whose loud but transient and minimal utility to the Left will abruptly cease when Donald Trump leaves office.

perfect

They are being paid to be charlatans. They will lose in the end.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (0xPsI)

207 203
Speaking of reevaluating your view on a matter because of someone you respect saying hey I think otherwise, I've at least somewhat changed my view of Cocaine Mitch because Kurt Schlichter thinks that he is very effective at running the Senate and not just the judges.

That gave me pause. It's not like Schlichter is some squish. I'm not 100% convinced but I am more willing to give Mitch the benefit of the doubt now.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 12, 2019 03:56 PM (mf5HN)

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How was Mitch ever going to repeal the ACA in total (including the Medicaid expansion) with 52 Senators, 3 of whom were John McCain, Lisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (L8CQp)

208 193 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/all-us-immig ration-offices-around-the-wo
rld-may-be-shut-down-soon

BOOM
Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2019 03:54 PM (q177U)

VEEERRRRRRYYY skeptical. Impacts a lot of people.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (RD7QR)

209 163
"Can we please stop calling these people "elite" or intellectual?"

Call them The Influencer Ecosystem. The coastal dweebs whose
greatest ambition is to be a TV talking head, and their supporting army
of pervert marketers and agents, and their crews of empty-headed
lumbersexual man-bun millennial techs.

I'm grateful VDH went pro-Trump. I really didn't expect it from him. His voice is really welcome!

Posted by: gp at March 12, 2019 03:50 PM (mk9aG)

Non-influencers in The Influencer Ecosystem. They clean up after people have had their fill of their wives.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (t6MX/)

210 >>Bill Weld considering primary challenge to TGE.: This is NT wet dream #1.

If you though Jeb Bush was a low-energy WASPy patrician candidate, wait until you see Weld in, uh, action.

IIRC, his wife is a Roosevelt descendent and the local press used to marvel at her doing cerebral things like reading Chinese literature (in mandarin) when she and Gov. Bill went to a Red Sox game.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (W+vEI)

211 One of the many compelling arguments for the Electoral College. Another one is that a close election could necessitate a nation-wide recount, with all the prospects for fraud that that would entail.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Yeah. Let's see where those 80,000 votes with only 32,000 registered voted came from shall we?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (LHT0w)

212 186 Is Lori Loughlin's prison strip search going to be televised?
Posted by: Benji Carver at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (OD2ni)

The next season of Orange is the New Black is going to be sexy AF.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:58 PM (xJa6I)

213 How bout you try and make the blog a little smaller, I can just read it

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 03:58 PM (RWv+/)

214
Yep. Booker grilled her on how many gay people she had on staff, etc. Amazing how we've gone from live and let live/muh privacy to expecting employers to both ask and track LGBTQ staffers.

Mirror universe
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (W+vEI)

------------------------

"I have no idea, because unlike you, apparently, I hire my staff based on ability and experience, not sexual orientation. That is none of my business".

Done

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 03:52 PM (ffYR/)

I believe that it's also illegal under Federal law to ask about someone's sexual orientation when hiring.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2019 03:58 PM (veoSD)

215 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 03:58 PM (9gDA7)

216 Rich Lowry has the journalistic integrity of Jonah Jameson.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (Kpl3J)

Spidermen Multiverse can be considered a harbinger of the Apocalypse, yes ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pouncing Critic ... at March 12, 2019 03:58 PM (LPnfS)

217 These people exist to surrender.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 12, 2019 03:58 PM (2LelM)

218 It is all too ironic that Murphy, who forwards the idea that the president is tied to a foreign government, oversaw an organization that was subject to a potential Chinese influence operation.

Literally, everything they accuse everyone else of doing, they've mastered the art of long ago.

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 03:59 PM (9gDA7)

219 Occasionally I feel sort of bad for Matthew Continetti. He has done some decent work with the free beacon, IMO. He is also married to Cap'n Kristol's daughter. That must make for interesting dinner table convo at Holidays.

Posted by: corn and beans at March 12, 2019 03:59 PM (tkNkP)

220 211 One of the many compelling arguments for the Electoral College. Another one is that a close election could necessitate a nation-wide recount, with all the prospects for fraud that that would entail.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Yeah. Let's see where those 80,000 votes with only 32,000 registered voted came from shall we?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (LHT0w)

============

Jail time for election officials from precinct to the state level for precincts that have more votes than registered voters.

1 day for every vote.

Plus a fine of $100 for every vote.

And they are banned from ever working an election again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:59 PM (L8CQp)

221 215 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 03:58 PM (9gDA7)

Well done

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 03:59 PM (xJa6I)

222 doing cerebral things like reading Chinese literature (in mandarin) when she and Gov. Bill went to a Red Sox game.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (W+vEI)
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That's reprehensible. Her ticket should have been taken away and given to a more deserving soul who would actually WATCH THE GAME SHE WAS THERE TO SEE.

Posted by: bluebell at March 12, 2019 03:59 PM (f/bqp)

223 LOL @JenRubin:

"Votersy hate the chaos, the tweets, the constant turmoil. Perhaps "Let America Be Sane" may be the most effective thing a Democrat has to offer. Hence, they better pick someone calm, authoritative, reliable and drama-free."

IOW:
"Vote Democrat in 2020: We Promise We'll Quit Screaming Once You Give Us Our Way."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 04:00 PM (AzW6q)

224 "How was Mitch ever going to repeal the ACA in total (including the Medicaid expansion) with 52 Senators, 3 of whom were John McCain, Lisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,"

I agree. Mitch picks fights he thinks he can win. That can be frustrating, but he was great on judges and the tax bill.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 12, 2019 04:00 PM (OD2ni)

225 I believe that it's also illegal under Federal law to ask about someone's sexual orientation when hiring.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2019 03:58 PM (veoSD)

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It absolutely is, including after they are hired and onboard.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 04:00 PM (ffYR/)

226 These people exist to surrender.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 12, 2019 03:58 PM (2LelM)

They're upset Trump isn't lying down and asking the Dems to steamroll him. That would be the dignified thing to do but the dastardly Trump insists on refusing.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 12, 2019 04:00 PM (9hauA)

227 1 Sponge
Posted by: FIRST!!!!! at March 12, 2019 03:16 PM (d8iVQ)

It's CRAZY how much better at this you are than I......

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 04:00 PM (9gDA7)

228 I think that's the essential truth of it. They were never conservative at any level, they just believed the USA to be morally superior and a source of greatness that must be spread around the world. They were pro military not out of respect for fighting men but as a tool to "export democracy." Their foreign policy is stuck in the 1970s where we fix things by sending troops or money to buy people into a certain point of view.

Trump renegotiating trade deals is evil to them because those trade deals were structured around trying to manipulate behavior and activity in the nations in question rather than what is best for America.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 03:48 PM (39g3+)

Not quite. They are conservative, but they're essentially second generation conservatives. The first generation were Reagan, H.W. Bush, Buckley, Irving Kristol, etc.: men who came onto the political scene between 1945 and 1980. These men built up the conservative movement, both in terms of ideology and infrastructure. They built it in the shadow of WWII and the early Cold War. Hence, the importance of global alliances against existential threats, along with globalized economies to encourage other nations to side with us, and to try and maximize the ability of the free world to outproduce the communists.

Guys like W., Goldberg, Bill Kristol, and Ben Shapiro became involved in politics after 1980, and so came up in a conservative movement that was on the upswing. Thus, while I think that they believed in conservatism, they were always at some level parroting back what others already thought. They didn't have to build up the intellectual capital that the earlier generation did. It's the difference between writing God and Man at Yale and starting National Review, and running a branch of the Campus Republicans and getting a job at National Review.

The problem is that the world changed in the early Nineties, with the fall of the USSR. But conservatism didn't. Second Gen conservatives didn't reevaluate their ideas or their proposed solutions in light of a changing world, but instead doubled down.

The Third Gen consists of a lot of the alt-right: people who are questioning basic assumptions about the world that the Second Gen never did. The third gen folks came of age, politically, in the latter half of the Bush years, and the Obama administration. They're experiences are long-running conflicts, outsourcing, social upheaval, and a progressive movement that seemed to be ascendant.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 04:01 PM (wCmLp)

229 "I have no idea, because unlike you, apparently, I hire my staff based on ability and experience, not sexual orientation. That is none of my business".

Done

Posted by: Calm Mentor

"I have no idea. That is none of my business.
And trust me, my gaydar is perfectly calibrated and is pinging like a motherf'r at the moment!"

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 04:01 PM (LHT0w)

230 "The Bulwark's primary mission, as explained by Charlie Sykes: to "taint" any Trump supporting intellectuals and leave them with a "stench," and "make people feel uncomfortable at dinner parties and in green rooms.""

To Charlie Sykes - KISS MY TAINT!

TO the rest of the Freedom Loving USA - sorry we inflicted Sykes on you guys. WTMJ620 couldn't keep him in his cage.

Posted by: Janir at March 12, 2019 04:01 PM (wnV4F)

231 How was Mitch ever going to repeal the ACA in total (including the Medicaid expansion) with 52 Senators, 3 of whom were John McCain, Lisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (L8CQp)

Collins and Murkowski may possibly have been able to be rolled but I do not blame Mitch for McCain. McCain was going to do what he was going to do no matter what. He had no fucks to give.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 12, 2019 04:01 PM (mf5HN)

232 doing cerebral things like reading Chinese literature (in mandarin) when she and Gov. Bill went to a Red Sox game.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (W+vEI)

What is betting line that the book was upside down?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 04:01 PM (oRUl9)

233 If there is a Melania Trump body double industry, how do I order one?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2019 04:01 PM (nPGq2)

234 Rich Lowry has the journalistic integrity of Jonah Jameson.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 03:53 PM (Kpl3J)

What does Jenna Jameson have to do with any of this?

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (9gDA7)

235 LOL @JenRubin:

"Votersy hate the chaos, the tweets, the constant turmoil. Perhaps "Let America Be Sane" may be the most effective thing a Democrat has to offer. Hence, they better pick someone calm, authoritative, reliable and drama-free."

IOW:
"Vote Democrat in 2020: We Promise We'll Quit Screaming Once You Give Us Our Way."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 04:00 PM (AzW6q)

I predicted this. They are going to run on a slogan similar to "Return to Normalcy" or something like that. They blame the drama THEY cause on Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (NFEMn)

236 That VDH article is dynamite.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (4e+hS)

237 231 How was Mitch ever going to repeal the ACA in total (including the Medicaid expansion) with 52 Senators, 3 of whom were John McCain, Lisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (L8CQp)

Collins and Murkowski may possibly have been able to be rolled but I do not blame Mitch for McCain. McCain was going to do what he was going to do no matter what. He had no fucks to give.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 12, 2019 04:01 PM (mf5HN)

==========

Medicaid expansion is super popular in some places, especially after its implementation.

I doubt a repeal of the expansion would ever get more then 40 votes now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (L8CQp)

238 Hence, they better pick someone calm, authoritative, reliable and drama-free.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Have you even bothered looking or listening to that bunch?

Scoop Jackson is dead, Jen. You drooling wombat.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (B+qrE)

239 That hit job on the Bushie's PAC must have a nice story behind it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (0xPsI)

240 Case Keenum cost the Redskins $3.5M cuz Broncos paid half of his salary. Both Case and Colt have one year left on their contracts. Rumor is the Skins are waiting to see what the Cardinals do with Josh Rosen to decide their choice in the first round. I tell you these things because they are important.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (2LelM)

241 IOW:
"Vote Democrat in 2020: We Promise We'll Quit Screaming Once You Give Us Our Way."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Pffffft. I'm married. What else you got?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (LHT0w)

242 Occasionally I feel sort of bad for Matthew Continetti. He has done some decent work with the free beacon, IMO. He is also married to Cap'n Kristol's daughter. That must make for interesting dinner table convo at Holidays.
Posted by: corn and beans at March 12, 2019 03:59 PM (tkNkP)

I don't. Back in 2016 he wrote a piece about how Hillary was going to win and socialism was ascendant and Conservatives needed to give up for a generation and focus on arguing that they would make better managers of the vast bureaucratic state.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (wCmLp)

243 doing cerebral things like reading Chinese literature (in mandarin) when she and Gov. Bill went to a Red Sox game.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (W+vEI)

Aren't there already enough characters in Fenway Park during a Red Sox game?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 04:03 PM (NFEMn)

244 That's reprehensible. Her ticket should have been taken away and given to a more deserving soul who would actually WATCH THE GAME SHE WAS THERE TO SEE.
Posted by: bluebell at March 12, 2019 03:59 PM (f/bqp)
+++++++++++++
Careful, bluebell - if we start advocating for the righteous redistribution of baseball tickets, it's a slippery slope down into Obama's patented Wealth Spread

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 04:04 PM (I2dne)

245 Let's look on the bright side. McCain is dead. Hillary is not President. RBG smells funny.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 12, 2019 04:04 PM (2LelM)

246 Saw a bumper sticker that was something like ANY MATURE ADULT 2020

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2019 04:04 PM (BXMxN)

247 Medicaid expansion is super popular in some places, especially after its implementation.

I doubt a repeal of the expansion would ever get more then 40 votes now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (L8CQp)

Honestly, the Medicaid expansion is the least of my concerns. Here in Ohio the Group VIII numbers (the expansion population) have been declining due to the economy.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 12, 2019 04:04 PM (wCmLp)

248 Case Keenum cost the Redskins $3.5M cuz Broncos paid half of his salary. Both Case and Colt have one year left on their contracts...
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (2LelM)

I liked him better when he was the host of "America's Top 40"

Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 04:05 PM (NFEMn)

249 Jenna Jameson is a Jew, right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 04:05 PM (RWv+/)

250 Case Keenum cost the Redskins $3.5M cuz Broncos paid half of his salary. Both Case and Colt have one year left on their contracts. Rumor is the Skins are waiting to see what the Cardinals do with Josh Rosen to decide their choice in the first round. I tell you these things because they are important.
Posted by: Puddin Head at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (2LelM)

I like both Case and Colt, but alas.....I can't bring myself to give a flying fuck about the NFL.......

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 04:05 PM (9gDA7)

251 IOW:
"Vote Democrat in 2020: We Promise We'll Quit Screaming Once You Give Us Our Way."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 04:00 PM (AzW6q)
+++++++++
Appeasement works every time it's tried, so I this seems like a sound argument.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 04:05 PM (I2dne)

252 That's reprehensible. Her ticket should have been taken away and given to a more deserving soul who would actually WATCH THE GAME SHE WAS THERE TO SEE.
Posted by: bluebell at March 12, 2019 03:59 PM (f/bqp)

A buddy and I were at a Padres game in great seats a few rows behind home plate. The woman next to me was head down in her phone throughout. At one point I leaned over and asked her if she could get the ball game on her phone, or at least find out the score.

She, unlike my buddy, was not amused.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 12, 2019 04:05 PM (oRUl9)

253 Jenna Jameson is a Jew, right?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 04:05 PM (RWv+/)

But not a self-loathing one.....

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 04:05 PM (9gDA7)

254 235 LOL @JenRubin:

"Votersy hate the chaos, the tweets, the constant turmoil. Perhaps "Let America Be Sane" may be the most effective thing a Democrat has to offer. Hence, they better pick someone calm, authoritative, reliable and drama-free."

IOW:
"Vote Democrat in 2020: We Promise We'll Quit Screaming Once You Give Us Our Way."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 04:00 PM (AzW6q)

I predicted this. They are going to run on a slogan similar to "Return to Normalcy" or something like that. They blame the drama THEY cause on Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 04:02 PM (NFEMn)

Biden 2020: So Stupid He's Boring

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 04:05 PM (RD7QR)

255 223 LOL @JenRubin:

"Votersy hate the chaos, the tweets, the constant turmoil. Perhaps "Let America Be Sane" may be the most effective thing a Democrat has to offer. Hence, they better pick someone calm, authoritative, reliable and drama-free."

IOW:
"Vote Democrat in 2020: We Promise We'll Quit Screaming Once You Give Us Our Way."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Vote Democrat in 2020: We are Sane!

http://tinyurl.com/yyztk355

A gem from the Daily Caller. This congresscritter has a future!

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 12, 2019 04:05 PM (LVpg+)

256 i'm going to start calling Booker "the fiercely heterosexual Cory Booker," thanks to that comment upthread.

Posted by: ace at March 12, 2019 04:06 PM (PbpT7)

257 doing cerebral things like reading Chinese literature (in mandarin) when she and Gov. Bill went to a Red Sox game.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 12, 2019 03:57 PM (W+vEI)

Aren't there already enough characters in Fenway Park during a Red Sox game?
Posted by: JoeF. at March 12, 2019 04:03 PM (NFEMn)

Yeah, you don't need some whack job throwing stick figures around everywhere......

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 04:06 PM (9gDA7)

258 The things you learn from working at home:

Macy Gray was in an episode of Blue's Clues.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 04:06 PM (L8CQp)

259 Oh yeah I hope the Democrats go with "Sanity" as their platform.

Trump will leave the poor candidate with that one in a blast of black Thanos Dust.

Posted by: ... at March 12, 2019 04:06 PM (AXiPC)

260 and leave them with a "stench," and "make people feel uncomfortable at dinner parties and in green rooms."

+++

They're leaving unkempt tomcats in the green rooms and dining halls.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at March 12, 2019 04:06 PM (Aoayx)

261 You know who else was fiercely heterosexual publicly?Rock Hudson.

Posted by: steevy at March 12, 2019 04:07 PM (BXMxN)

262 This is awesome. Linked from the Hanson piece is an article from the Atlantic:

Naming and Shaming the Pro-Trump Elite
The Bulwark's writers are the new outlaws of conservative media.

A political magazine interviewing the editor of a different political magazine about their mutual task is perhaps the very definition of navel-gazing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 04:08 PM (I2dne)

263 I'm fiercely heterosexual too. I'm serial killer -- I murder ass.

Posted by: Jm J. Bullock at March 12, 2019 04:08 PM (PbpT7)

264 262 This is awesome. Linked from the Hanson piece is an article from the Atlantic:

Naming and Shaming the Pro-Trump Elite
The Bulwark's writers are the new outlaws of conservative media.

A political magazine interviewing the editor of a different political magazine about their mutual task is perhaps the very definition of navel-gazing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 04:08 PM (I2dne)

==========

A liberal's favorite conservative: The one obsessed with tearing down some element of conservatism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 04:09 PM (L8CQp)

265 I wouldn't piss on David French......

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 12, 2019 04:09 PM (M+Lyo)

266 i'm going to start calling Booker "the fiercely heterosexual Cory Booker," thanks to that comment upthread.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2019 04:06 PM (PbpT7)

Fiercely heterosexually vegan........

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 04:09 PM (9gDA7)

267 Trump has been far from perfect. He should have shot Comey through the
forehead in the Rose Garden on his first day in office, okay
metaphorically, but he let the FBI get away. He doesn't have a wall,
we're not bulldozing crowds of Central Americans back across the border.
And his tone on Twitter isn't exactly Presidential at times, though
it does cut through the bullshit.

We also don't have a colony on Mars or flying cars.

Fucking Trump, man.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 12, 2019 04:09 PM (LL1Be)

268 I'm fiercely heterosexual too. I'm serial killer -- I murder manass.
Posted by: Jm J. Bullock at March 12, 2019 04:08 PM (PbpT7)

Corrected for accuracy.

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 04:10 PM (9gDA7)

269 nice...

two firsts on one day

nood

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 04:10 PM (L8CQp)

270 Mike Murphy is a high-profile NeverTrumper and a valued member of the Republican consultant class

I am reminded of Gustavus Adolphus' response to a Richeleau envoys remark that France found the Holy Roman Emperor to be of some value: "Some say the same of body lice."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 12, 2019 04:11 PM (B+qrE)

271 I wouldn't piss on David French......
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 12, 2019 04:09 PM (M+Lyo)

I would. As long as it didn't help him in any way, shape or form.

Posted by: Sponge at March 12, 2019 04:11 PM (9gDA7)

272 Guys like W., Goldberg, Bill Kristol, and Ben Shapiro became involved in politics after 1980, and so came up in a conservative movement that was on the upswing. Thus, while I think that they believed in conservatism, they were always at some level parroting back what others already thought.

Well this is the problem with a lot of movements. They're built on the shoulders of people standing on the shoulders of giants. Part of what makes Victor Davis Hanson so effective and knowledgeable is that he went back to the original sources and studied them. Rush Limbaugh, for all his value and importance, studied the people who wrote about the original sources, sometimes third hand.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 12, 2019 04:11 PM (39g3+)

273 265 I wouldn't piss on David French......
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 12, 2019 04:09 PM (M+Lyo)

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I would. I was in the Corps and it's well known that Marines piss napalm.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 04:11 PM (gC2IV)

274 I wouldn't piss on David French......
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 12, 2019 04:09 PM (M+Lyo)

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You dont.pull.the mask off of Rump-ranger Lowry

And you dont mess a round with Skykes...

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 04:12 PM (8XRCm)

275 Corey is the Liberace of straight men

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 12, 2019 04:12 PM (RWv+/)

276 So- basically the Bulwark is a foreign financed opposition group seeking to undermine both the conservative movement and our republic. These milksops accomplish undertake their subversion by attacking not just true supporters of conservatism who can intellectually articulate their views, but also the real, substantive accomplishments by this administration that have materially benefited the American people.
We have a word for that, but right now it escapes my mind. Although the Vichy Republic does come to mind.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 12, 2019 04:12 PM (VpIIl)

277 I would. I was in the Corps and it's well known that Marines piss napalm.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2019 04:11 PM (gC2IV)

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Dude. That's gonorrhea.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 12, 2019 04:12 PM (8XRCm)

278 ...Mike Murphy is a high-profile NeverTrumper and a valued member of the Republican consultant class who was best known for working on the failed John McCain presidential campaign...

LOL! Mike, you did a bang up job with that campaign and then turned on Palin when your miserable candidate lost. Excellent job. I can see why you are "top" in your field.

Posted by: Cheri at March 12, 2019 04:13 PM (oiNtH)

279 You do NOT want to make VDH angry.

HE will sack your town, tear down the walls, burn the remains and salt the earth it stands on.

Well done, Victor, well done.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at March 12, 2019 04:14 PM (T09ml)

280 Nood Lori Laughlin

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 04:14 PM (LHT0w)

281 I'm stunned The Bulwark is still a thing.

Posted by: thathalfrican - GOOD at March 12, 2019 04:14 PM (IYHxL)

282
We also don't have a colony on Mars or flying cars.
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You know not having flying cars really chaps my ass.

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 12, 2019 04:14 PM (2LelM)

283 >>>It's like he does not see what the left is doing every single day. I used to respect him, but it seems like the Trump presidency really broke a lot of people's placeminds, which makes me question how sound their minds were in the first place

what does placemind mean? I feel like I've seen that word before and it's some neologism I don't know.

Posted by: ace at March 12, 2019 04:14 PM (PbpT7)

284 instead of saying "trump's been far from perfect blah blah blah," start off aggro by saying "trump's been the best president since Reagan"

Posted by: Snaderbatch at March 12, 2019 04:15 PM (7uiTk)

285 Fat, flabby, effeminate, timorous and flaccid is no way to go the through life, Bulwark.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 12, 2019 04:15 PM (VpIIl)

286 Oh, yeah, between TuCa telling the left to go p!ss up a rope and VDH's response to the ankle-biters of the Never Trump cabal, , the corner has been turned.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at March 12, 2019 04:15 PM (T09ml)

287
Actually the only correct answer is, 'The Supreme Court has ruled that I should offer the position to the most qualified applicant. Just as I do not share the details of my sexuality to others, I have no wish to inquire of an applicants sexuality. At the time the Supreme Court rules that I must be intrusive in this matter, then I will comply. Until then, fvck off Senator Booker, you closet fag.'

Perhaps I might temper the last sentence a bit.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 12, 2019 04:18 PM (jYje5)

288 I just can't believe you've gotten both barrels from Vic Hanson unless there is a lengthy passage in Attic Greek. And it should be about viniculture, too.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 12, 2019 04:19 PM (8ZmvG)

289 A liberal's favorite conservative: The one obsessed with tearing down some element of conservatism.
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A dead one

Posted by: ... at March 12, 2019 04:20 PM (AXiPC)

290 Victor Davis Hanson was the only reason to even look online at that garbage website. He's great. NRO is now officially dead to me. Forever.

Posted by: Don_in_Central Jersey at March 12, 2019 04:26 PM (UPDS7)

291 VDH is a modern day Cicero. May the Good Lord protect him and deliver him from Cicero's fate.

Posted by: LGoPs at March 12, 2019 04:29 PM (DChCV)

292 You're writing about VDH like he's employed by National Review, and perhaps he is, but I think all they do is pay his syndicator for the privilege of publishing his columns. Plenty of other places to read VDH.

Posted by: Sodak Saxonographer at March 12, 2019 04:37 PM (xmKbk)

293 Honestly , now, Ace, you cannot reasonably expect our accomplished and worldy NeverTrumpers to allow some dungfooted dirt farmer to tramp his cowpatties all over their polished and hallowed halls...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 12, 2019 04:49 PM (1me8P)

294 Hey Ace, now is the time to ask VDH to be a coblogger. He might appreciate the unlimited Val-u-Rite and Hobo sports.

Posted by: Iblis at March 12, 2019 04:57 PM (OXWT4)

295 Laughing because I am imagining both Buckley and Vidal going apeshi* over the lack of intellect currently displayed by the Rockefeller Republican crowd and the Screaming Socialist groups.

Both Buckley and Vidal were excellent writers and debaters with the intellectual and social backgrounds to make it fun and instructive.

Sadly, no more fun.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 12, 2019 05:13 PM (MIKMs)

296 VDH is the only one worth reading at NRO. If he left, they would be the Weekly Standard in about a week.

Posted by: fretlesst at March 12, 2019 06:46 PM (sGtp+)

297 "What venomous, sneaky little shits. All parading (waddling, really) around to show off their imagined "virtue."
Yes, I noticed that too, they ALL seem to anywhere from plump to fat.

Posted by: Viator at March 12, 2019 09:38 PM (Ueq18)

298 Does greasy Bill Kristol still do those commercials for FLEX TAPE.

He's quite handsome.

Posted by: SUG at March 12, 2019 10:02 PM (dMrJJ)

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Victor Davis Hanson Responds to The Bulwark's Attack on HimA Day After Charlie Sykes' Attack Site Smears His Colleague Hanson as a Nazi, The Very Virtuous David French Appears on Sykes' Podcast

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Victor Davis Hanson Responds to The Bulwark's Attack on Him
A Day After Charlie Sykes' Attack Site Smears His Colleague Hanson as a Nazi, The Very Virtuous David French Appears on Sykes' Podcast