The Morning Rant: J.V. Edition

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My reflexive assumption is that this is the deep state at work. But there is a simple fix, which is an order from the chief administrative officer of the United States of America that "catch and release" is not the law of the land and that continuing that policy is grounds for immediate termination. Then President Trump can fire a few hundred people pour encourager les autres, and the problem will be much more manageable.

So the question is: Why is this occurring? Even assuming that the drop in support is exaggerated, it is troubling.

Support for Trump dwindles among ICE officers

ICE officers who endorsed President Trump in 2016 now say he has failed to follow through on his get-tough promises, saying catch-and-release of immigrants living illegally in the U.S. is not only still happening, but has gone into “overdrive.”

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers say they’re being roped into such mundane tasks as opening the doors on vans to release immigrants already caught by Border Patrol agents. That’s dragging the officers from their usual duties of nabbing fugitives, or scouring local prisons and jails for immigrant criminals who lived illegally in the U.S. ready to be deported.

The shell game is all the more “ridiculous,” the officers said, because Border Patrol agents could fill out paperwork and open the doors themselves, but the agency’s leaders don’t want to be part of catch-and-release.

“Hundreds of man hours are wasted each day at a time of crisis on the border,” the leaders of the National ICE Council, the union that represents ICE officers, said in a letter sent directly to Mr. Trump on Monday.

Until this changes we will continue to lose the battle to protect our borders and protect our nation. American Exceptionalism is rapidly going the way of the passenger pigeon. My most fervent hope is that the American people continue to focus on this issue and continue to press, however mildly, for substantive changes. My personal view of immigration has changed because of the chaos at our borders. I used to be conditionally supportive of limited immigration for qualified applicants (educated, with some financial means, etc), but now I am rapidly morphing into an absolutist. Shut the damned border down for a generation while culling the welfare rolls and prisons of anyone here illegally. Throw them the fvck out. And then start with companies who hire illegals. Fines and imprisonment, and if necessary force the sale of companies that employ more than a certain % of illegals.

They are anti-American, and do not deserve the protections of our laws.

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Ah...Venezuela writ small.

Because of the administration's hatred of cars, they have destroyed traffic flow in NYC, all for the benefit of a few thousand bicyclists. Garbage is piling up in the streets unlike anything since the 1980s. The subways are a disaster, and the crypto-communists in power want to pay for the repairs (it's a rebuild that will take a generation) with "congestion pricing" for midtown Manhattan. That is nothing more than a nastily regressive tax, because the wealthy don't care, and it will fall disproportionately on tradesmen and the middle class.

And let us not forget that the bum population is exploding, street crime is exploding but not counted in the statistics because they have decriminalized some of it and ignore the rest, and taxes are absolutely out of control.

New York City is edging toward financial disaster, experts warn

New York City is careening closer to all-out financial bankruptcy for the first time since Mayor Abraham Beame ran the city more than 40 years ago, experts say.

As tax-fleeced businesses and individuals flee en masse, and city public spending surges into the stratosphere, financial analysts say Gotham is perilously near total fiscal disaster.

Unlike the last one, the financial companies and other big businesses are much more able to move operations out of the city, or simply expand telecommuting. So while most of the big corporations will continue to have a presence in NYC, it is possible that their employee base will shrink in response to the ridiculous costs associated with working in Manhattan. That sounds like a recipe for disaster for de Blasio. No, I am not grinning. Really.
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1 Trump is a good First Principles man, but he's shit for a manager.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 10:57 AM (Kpl3J)

2 Hey, it's our brave media firefighters!

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at March 12, 2019 10:57 AM (oZ6kz)

3 Doesn't catch and release make all the hubbub over the wall a waste of time?

Posted by: Ex-Virginian at March 12, 2019 10:57 AM (yDxHh)

4
Hey, it's our brave media firefighters!

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at March 12, 2019 10:57 AM (oZ6kz)


lol

I caught Tater in full attack mode against Tucker on CNN this morning. I noticed (again) that he has tiny, rodent-like teefs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 10:58 AM (ptqGC)

5 th

Posted by: HA at March 12, 2019 10:58 AM (MAstk)

6 Doesn't catch and release make all the hubbub over the wall a waste of time? "

Not if you think that all the hubbub over the wall is simply about getting votes, and not about actually doing anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 10:59 AM (Kpl3J)

7 3: I was hoping a real executive could actually manage. Trump's commitment to removing illegals has proven illusory. I predict we will soon have Simpson Mazzoli part II

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 11:00 AM (U7k5w)

8 Hey hey he's the Monkee!

Posted by: O'Crazy Eyes Cortez - Komissar of Energy at March 12, 2019 11:01 AM (so+oy)

9 Support for Trump dwindles among ICE officers
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This same sentiment has been echoed here.

I can understand the feeling, but the reality is when you have an obstructionist Congress, a hostile media, a stupid fucking electorate, easily cowed by emotions (not all, but too large an amount) and an out of control judiciary, what is the executive supposed to do?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 12, 2019 11:02 AM (vg8iE)

10 As tax-fleeced businesses and individuals flee en masse,

Turns out that Snake Plissken was ahead of his time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2019 11:03 AM (4knXT)

11 Not if you think that all the hubbub over the wall is simply about getting votes, and not about actually doing anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 10:59 AM (Kpl3J)

I honestly believe that Trump wanted and wants a wall - but not simply for votes. Of the things that need to be done -- end catch and release, end chain migration, end anchor babies, crackdown on visa overstays-- the wall is probably the easiest and makes the least difference.

Posted by: Ex-Virginian at March 12, 2019 11:04 AM (yDxHh)

12 This highlights the prime feature of the Transborder Industrial Mastic Human Flypaper Array.

Catch.

No release.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:04 AM (Bdeb0)

13
Fines and imprisonment, and if necessary force the sale of companies that employ more than a certain % of illegals.

Big companies now are pretty careful in hiring because the fines against them for having somewhere around ten or more illegals are kinda severe. So they 'work around' that by using subcontractors. A ton of them. Each subcontractor might have nine illegals on the payroll.

Call Comcast for some sort of work requiring manual labor and that's who you get - Manuel. Who speaks some form of English but his 'crew' is all Spanish speakers.

Everybody is scamming the system and it needs to end.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 12, 2019 11:04 AM (jYje5)

14 Support for Trump dwindles among ICE officers

Hey, as long as we're not putting kids in cages anymore...

Posted by: Mr. Low Information Voter at March 12, 2019 11:04 AM (4knXT)

15 https://scarfolk.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 12, 2019 11:04 AM (iXnsK)

16 Muldoon,
From the previous.
Snort!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:04 AM (0tfLf)

17
ICE officers who endorsed President Trump in 2016 now say he has failed to follow through on his get-tough promises, saying catch-and-release of immigrants living illegally in the U.S. is not only still happening, but has gone into “overdrive.”
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Sez who?



They don't name the ICE officers.. One disgruntled ICE official talking to the Washington Times don't mean jack..

But, this brings up a good point.. Is this an executive order, or is it law?

Posted by: O'Crazy Eyes Cortez - Komissar of Energy at March 12, 2019 11:04 AM (so+oy)

18 Trump's commitment to removing illegals has proven illusory."

I think his commitment is fine, and remains. What is illusory is his ability to run a large organization by himself - he doesn't have the ability. I believe he's always been able, in his business life, to count on extremely skilled managers who would run things well for him because they were allowed to share in the profit. BUT Government does not work that way, Trump has never really quite grasped that, and instead he is counting on people who all have their own agendas, which are not his. And he doesn't seem to be able to find many people who are both capable and who will follow HIS agenda, rather than their own. There's a few that do a good job, but not nearly as many as their should be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

19 This highlights the prime feature of the Transborder Industrial Mastic Human Flypaper Array.

Catch.

No release.
Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:04 AM (Bdeb0)


Roach Motels. But for people.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2019 11:05 AM (4knXT)

20 They are anti-American, and do not deserve the protections of our laws.

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Welcome to the dark side. It's been lonely over here.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 11:05 AM (LHT0w)

21 Of the things that need to be done -- end catch and release, end chain migration, end anchor babies, crackdown on visa overstays-- the wall is probably the easiest and makes the least difference


It was and will always be, really, a legal problem, run by the people who refuse to take the legal steps because they want it the way it is-- The US Congress.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 12, 2019 11:06 AM (iXnsK)

22 DICKS completely pulling guns from 125 stores. Because Dicks.

Who even buys there anymore after the last disaster? They probably stopped selling them because people told them to shove it.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 12, 2019 11:06 AM (VpIIl)

23 I will say from my visit to NYC, the trains do run on time.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 11:07 AM (gCzjH)

24 >>Roach Motels. But for people.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2019 11:05 AM (4knXT)

The concern is always looking for accessible language that succinctly captures the concept. The marketing team at Zod National Enterprises thanks you.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:07 AM (Bdeb0)

25 osted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

NOBODY can run a large organization without trustworthy lieutenants.

Certainly not the entire Executive Branch, especially if you lump literally every single police department in the nation as somehow directly under the President, and that somehow the President is uniquely culpable for all of their actions.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 12, 2019 11:07 AM (AURKQ)

26 Sez who?



They don't name the ICE officers.. One disgruntled ICE official talking to the Washington Times don't mean jack..


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Some guy on Twitter who says he's an ICE agent. He may have been drunk-tweeting. Anyway, we're rushing production on a five-part series based on his tweet.

Posted by: This Is CNN at March 12, 2019 11:07 AM (4knXT)

27 wahhhhhhh
WAHHHHHHHHHHH
wahhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: monkey at March 12, 2019 11:07 AM (FTPVM)

28 23 I will say from my visit to NYC, the trains do run on time.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 11:07 AM (gCzjH)

You got lucky.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 12, 2019 11:07 AM (MPuQT)

29 It's proper to be highly skeptical of anonymously sourced stories.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 11:07 AM (RD7QR)

30 I'm really skeptical about the ICE support for Trump dropping. These agents know Trump isn't the problem, but judges and Democrats (BIRM).

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:08 AM (eZuvF)

31 18 Trump's commitment to removing illegals has proven illusory."

I think his commitment is fine, and remains. What is illusory is his ability to run a large organization by himself - he doesn't have the ability. I believe he's always been able, in his business life, to count on extremely skilled managers who would run things well for him because they were allowed to share in the profit. BUT Government does not work that way, Trump has never really quite grasped that, and instead he is counting on people who all have their own agendas, which are not his. And he doesn't seem to be able to find many people who are both capable and who will follow HIS agenda, rather than their own. There's a few that do a good job, but not nearly as many as their should be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:05 AM (Kpl3J)

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Reminds me of Grant's first effort to get Sumner to work with him.

Grant, the new president and former commander of the army during the Civil War, saw Sumner as a lieutenant and would carry out his orders regarding some matters (in particular Santo Domingo).

Sumner turned right around and started working against Grant.

He had expected Sumner to operate like a junior officer.

Now, not only does Trump have "subordinates" in Congress who don't do what he says, he also has subordinates in his own organization that undermine him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:09 AM (aFMSC)

32 "...but now I am rapidly morphing..."
This is what the regressives understand that conservatives don't. Everything is a scare tactic with them, it moves people's opinions. Everybody's going to starve, New York will be underwater, Republicans want to kill you because they're Nazis, and it's all happening within a couple of years.
All the while, conservatives go along with rationally mild policies that never get implemented. I don't want to criticize you in particular, but now you're morphing after the disaster has happened and it may be too late.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 12, 2019 11:09 AM (xxAFD)

33
I'm only assigning a tiny percentage of the blame on Trump. They've backed him into a corner in a room filled with lawyers arguing over whether one of his actions is legal or will get him impeached. Half saying yes, half saying no.

I would not want to be in those shoes. Now those 22 Republican Senators up for reelection in 2020? They better watch their backs. No support for Trump means little support from Trump voters.

Posted by: Newest Nic at March 12, 2019 11:09 AM (jYje5)

34 It's proper to be highly skeptical of anonymously sourced stories.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 11:07 AM (RD7QR)

These days, anyone claiming an anonymous source is making shit up out of whole cloth.

We live in an age of Yellow Journalism.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at March 12, 2019 11:09 AM (J+mig)

35 "But Zod, what happens when the human flypaper becomes too crowded with trapped Aztecs?"

Fire happens. Then, re-application.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:09 AM (Bdeb0)

36 I recall someone saying that Building the Wall was just a big Maguffin anyways. Hmm, who was that, maybe Jonah Goldbrick?

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:10 AM (Kpl3J)

37 The Washington Times, eh? Must be truth, then.

Posted by: Apostate at March 12, 2019 11:10 AM (3/h5t)

38 Speaking of NYC...kinda...

I was in San Francisco recently. I used to be there for work several weeks a year in the 2000s. I hadn't been back in about 5 years. All you hear is homeless this, homeless that. So I was expecting to have to walk over homeless people on every sidewalk.

In reality, I saw some bums here and there, but no worse than what I remember from back in the day. What struck me is the number of new condos that have sprung up.

It's almost as if the MSM lies and exaggerates and shit. But that can't be!! Can it?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM (eZuvF)

39 What's the alternative, Elizabeth Warren???

They are trying to separate Trump from his base.

Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM (QCc6B)

40 30 I'm really skeptical about the ICE support for Trump dropping. These agents know Trump isn't the problem, but judges and Democrats (BIRM).
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:08 AM (eZuvF)

Awful lot of "sources say" going' on....

The only "Source" in that WaTi article is the guy who heads the union that represents ICE agents. The rest is just gossip and trickery.

Go figure.

A union boss.

Talking shit about a Republican president.

I'm shocked.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM (AURKQ)

41 >>Now, not only does Trump have "subordinates" in Congress who don't do what he says, he also has subordinates in his own organization that undermine him. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:09 AM (aFMSC)

Trump hasn't read Robert Greene's "48 Laws Of Power."

He should.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM (Bdeb0)

42 it's pretty obvious, too, that the left is organizing hordes of illegals to overwhelm the system. this will probably increase the numbers over the next several years. they plan to defeat any border security.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM (Pg+x7)

43 39 What's the alternative, Elizabeth Warren???

They are trying to separate Trump from his base.
Posted by: Max Power at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM (QCc6B)

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You know who would be "fit" to run the country? Bernie Sanders!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:12 AM (aFMSC)

44 Prayer list note:

If you have any prayer requests for yourself or others, updates or praise reports please send them to me by 7:00 p.m. tonight EST so that they can be included in tomorrow's Daily Rant.

Thx for praying!

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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 11:12 AM (AllCR)

45 Children are well-suited for entering smoke-filled burning buildings as they are naturally low to the ground.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 12, 2019 11:12 AM (m45I2)

46 Now, not only does Trump have "subordinates" in Congress who don't do what he says, he also has subordinates in his own organization that undermine him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:09 AM (aFMSC)


Yes, that's a good analogy. I think Trump really believed that Paul Ryan would be on his side, and would be eager to help push things through the House. Who knew that Paul Ryan would rather quit government completely than do anything to help Trump.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:12 AM (Kpl3J)

47 >>Bernie Sanders! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:12 AM (aFMSC)

REMOVE STATIC ELECTRICITY.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:13 AM (Bdeb0)

48 $100k per illegal, per year, for every business that either knowingly employed them or didn't take reasonable precautions against employing them. $50k for each, personally, to the proprietors or board members.

Any business unable to pay such fines will be seized and sold at auction.

Make it ruinous to both the entity and the individuals.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at March 12, 2019 11:13 AM (J+mig)

49
It was and will always be, really, a legal problem, run by the people who refuse to take the legal steps because they want it the way it is-- The US Congress.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 12, 2019 11:06 AM (iXnsK)

Yes. While Trump tries to make changes -- which is har -- the Congress and the Courts "enforce" the status quo. Which is easy.

The future looks dark.

Posted by: Ex-Virginian at March 12, 2019 11:13 AM (yDxHh)

50 46 Yes, that's a good analogy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:12 AM (Kpl3J)

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Gonna be honest, I was surprised that history extended to before Obama's inauguration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:13 AM (aFMSC)

51

I forget, which is the Fake News, the Washington Examiner or the Washington Times?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at March 12, 2019 11:13 AM (AmDwF)

52 It seems to me Ann Coulter just might be right about Trump and that's why he has turned on her with such vengeance. I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Jerry Jay Carroll at March 12, 2019 11:14 AM (SYCeT)

53 By 2020 every group will have been claimed to no longer support Trump by the media.

It will reach its pinnacle when the NYT runs the article Inside Sources: Barron No Longer Wants Trump as Father, Wants Mom To Marry Beto.

Or something close to that. Seriously.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 11:14 AM (gCzjH)

54 I can understand the feeling, but the reality is when you have an obstructionist Congress, a hostile media, a stupid fucking electorate, easily cowed by emotions (not all, but too large an amount) and an out of control judiciary, what is the executive supposed to do?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 12, 2019 11:02 AM (vg8iE)

Stack the judiciary with lifetime appointed conservative/Constitutionalists.

Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2019 11:15 AM (xqdqQ)

55 I sense some concern.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 11:15 AM (RD7QR)

56 Mornin', Horde.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2019 11:15 AM (p+Wdc)

57 Turns out that Snake Plissken was ahead of his time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2019 11:03 AM (4knXT)


You joke, but the gap between that dystopian vision of NYC and real places in the real world continues to narrow.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 12, 2019 11:15 AM (xxAFD)

58 imo, the ICE thing is happening as part of the coup, the Hillary declared WAR (resistance is a military term, like "the French resistance"). The DeepState subverts orders from the top.


But Trump COULD handle this, so I surmise he is compromised by misinformation (which the NSA and others have done for a long time) or coercion from the Mueller mafia, OR threats from the globalists that they will crash markets (or hit in other vulnerable places) if Trump moves decisively.


OR Trump has recognized that the corruption is so deep, and the house of cards so unstable, that strong action could be nearly cataclysmic. OR Trump has other blackmail material out on him, or just wants to be liked by the elitists, and has been fooling the patriots. Probably a combination of all of those.

The one surprise would be actual prosecution of the crooks (#2weeks), but the mass invasion to overthrow us indicates we are running the left's plan, not the (alleged) Trump America First plan.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 12, 2019 11:15 AM (Cus5s)

59 it's pretty obvious, too, that the left is organizing hordes of illegals to overwhelm the system. this will probably increase the numbers over the next several years. they plan to defeat any border security.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM (Pg+x7)

It's pretty obvious to me that they've realized that soyboys and purple-haired trigglypuffs are not the foundation of an army, and are importing military age men to serve them as mercenaries, to be bought with promises of plunder, when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at March 12, 2019 11:15 AM (J+mig)

60 And let us not forget that the bum population is exploding, street crime is exploding but not counted in the statistics because they have decriminalized some of it and ignore the rest, and taxes are absolutely out of control.
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Outside of the tax issues, doesn't this represent a full reversal of the Giuliani-era "broken windows" policing shift? If I recall correctly, Giuliani ordered the police to go after exactly these "nuisance crimes" like public vagrancy and turnstile jumping to improve quality of life and then lo and behold, the crime rate started dropping and the city got a lot safer. The theory on this (again, if my basic understanding is correct) is that improving the general situation will reduce crime both because those who commit nuisance crimes also have a higher probability of committing serious crimes and because it makes the environment better and therefore less conducive to serious crime.

This can go too far (I think "stop and frisk" was too far), but NYC's "broken windows" policing appears to have worked very well. Turning that back to the pre-"broken windows" policing scheme - if that is indeed what happened here - seems insane and that the results should have been expected.

Am I way off base on all of this, or is it as mad as it appears?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:16 AM (I2dne)

61 It's proper to be highly skeptical of anonymously sourced stories.

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It is.
But, with recent events - unless solid evidence comes to the contrary conclusion - it's appropriate to consider Trump as compromised by ?Deep State? At this point. We're not getting a wall, a halt in immigration, a replacement for Obama care, etc. I have no regrets voting for him knowing it was a gamble. We broke even I'd say. Sadly that's a much better thing than any GOP Pres since Reagan.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at March 12, 2019 11:16 AM (0cKff)

62 The latest "Trump is losing support" narrative is loss of support in Trump counties cuz the trade war is hurting those counties the mostest.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:16 AM (eZuvF)

63 what is the executive supposed to do?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 12, 2019 11:02 AM (vg8iE)

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Execute?

In seriousness...well, I was serious, actually. But Obama found a way to pen up all the unaccompanied "minors" that came across the border.

I can't imagine that we don't have ways to temporarily detain very large groups of people. And as much as some might worry about the optics of that, I gotta say--pens full of border-crossers would really put an exclamation point on how many damn people come across the border every day.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 12, 2019 11:16 AM (yL25O)

64 Sponge

Posted by: FIRST!!!!! at March 12, 2019 11:16 AM (d8iVQ)

65 I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Jerry Jay Carroll at March 12, 2019 11:14 AM (SYCeT)

You do? Really? I mean, REALLY? Ooooookay then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 11:17 AM (AllCR)

66 42 it's pretty obvious, too, that the left is organizing hordes of illegals to overwhelm the system. this will probably increase the numbers over the next several years. they plan to defeat any border security."

You should realize that the Venezuela Crisis is destabilizing all of South America and Central America - millions of people fleeing are overwhelming every system they run into, and pushing more and more people into moving on, and the results end up here. This is what a cascade failure looks like - each link in the chain is too weak to withstand the stress, and so the instability strengthens as it moves.

This is the prime argument in favor of not just sitting back and watching everyone in Venezuela die while saying "well, not our circus, not our monkeys".

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:17 AM (Kpl3J)

67 $100k per illegal, per year, for every business that
either knowingly employed them or didn't take reasonable precautions
against employing them. $50k for each, personally, to the proprietors
or board members.



Any business unable to pay such fines will be seized and sold at auction.



Make it ruinous to both the entity and the individuals.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at March 12, 2019 11:13 AM (J+mig)


I don't think that's harsh enough. Especially since punishments will be bargained down. There needs to be mandatory jail time for all corporate officers. Something like 1 year per illegal employee.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 12, 2019 11:17 AM (xxAFD)

68


And let us not forget that the bum population is exploding, street
crime is exploding but not counted in the statistics because they have
decriminalized some of it and ignore the rest, and taxes are absolutely
out of control.





Considering how hard-won the clean up of Manhattan streets was back in the 80's and 90's, this is heartbreaking. Vagrants are using building vestibules as bathrooms once again. Pedestrians again run the risk of being assaulted by the homeless as the walk along sidewalks, or cross streets. Panhandlers demand tolls to cross Broadway, and are squeegee- ing cars again. It's terrible, and yet it is DELIBERATE City policy. Hard to fucking believe.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, back in the saddle again at March 12, 2019 11:17 AM (LISuA)

69 She's right(Coulter) Trump is a flawed man(aren't we all) but she forgets
what this guys is up against with this border wall thing. She also forgets that Hillary Clinton will never be president, the economy and judicial appointments. She also likes to sell her books and make appearance fees. She's become a opportunistic gadfly with nice tits and a horseface.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 12, 2019 11:18 AM (xqfqx)

70 39 What's the alternative, Elizabeth Warren???

Vote 4 me cuz I was robbed in Georgia

Posted by: Stacey gap toothed Abrams at March 12, 2019 11:18 AM (P6KKD)

71 70 39 What's the alternative, Elizabeth Warren???

Vote 4 me cuz I was robbed in Georgia
Posted by: Stacey gap toothed Abrams at March 12, 2019 11:18 AM (P6KKD)

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How'd you get access to her campaign materials?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:18 AM (aFMSC)

72 Relax New Yorkers. DeBlasio has conquered global warming by mandating meatless Mondays.


Commies always use food as a weapon against their people.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 12, 2019 11:18 AM (pw+jk)

73 Vote 4 me cuz I was robbed in Georgia
Posted by: Stacey gap toothed Abrams at March 12, 2019 11:18 AM (P6KKD)

Vote 4 me or you're a racist!

Posted by: Corey Booker at March 12, 2019 11:19 AM (MPuQT)

74 What's the alternative, Elizabeth Warren???

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Trump will win 2020 but a radical democrat gets in after, possible for one term only.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at March 12, 2019 11:19 AM (0cKff)

75 In reality, I saw some bums here and there, but no worse than what I remember from back in the day. What struck me is the number of new condos that have sprung up.

It's almost as if the MSM lies and exaggerates and shit. But that can't be!! Can it?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM (eZuvF)
++++++++++++
Your experience is wildly different from mine. When I have been in San Francisco proper (as opposed to out in Silicon Valley), I *have* had to step over street people and their detritus, been pursued by very aggressive bums (though not mugged), had to dodge hypodermics (though not human shit), etc.

Maybe it was part of town or the fact that I usually spend time in San Francisco proper for conferences and those are considered ripe targets for aggressive behavior by the homeless population (go pursue groups of out-of-towners). I am not sure. I have definitely experienced the "homeless and filth" problem of San Francisco first hand, though, even when I walk well outside of the conference district for a meal, etc. It could also be a time-of-year thing, as I am usually there in summer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:19 AM (I2dne)

76 Maduro instituted meatless Mondays a long time ago.

Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2019 11:19 AM (xqdqQ)

77
You joke, but the gap between that dystopian vision of NYC and real places in the real world continues to narrow.
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So where do people gather for fresh water in Caracas these days? Well, maybe not so fresh water. . .

Posted by: simplemind at March 12, 2019 11:19 AM (PHzkX)

78 opportunistic gadfly with nice tits and a horseface.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 12, 2019 11:18 AM (xqfqx)

My nice tits are a deep fake.

Posted by: Ann Coulter at March 12, 2019 11:20 AM (yDxHh)

79 How'd you get access to her campaign materials?

Shirt up
RACIST!!!!!!

Posted by: Stacey gap toothed Abrams at March 12, 2019 11:20 AM (P6KKD)

80 Meatless Mondays, followed by Rapey Tuesdays. And nothing works up an appetitite like day long rapes. Which means meat consumption on Tuesdays will be yuuuge.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:20 AM (eZuvF)

81 It seems to me Ann Coulter just might be right about Trump and that's why he has turned on her with such vengeance. I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Jerry Jay Carroll at March 12, 2019 11:14 AM (SYCeT)

Coulter is an armchair general. It's not that she's never right, it's just that the media is fully against Trump and she jumps on the train to keep her fan base titillated. And let's not forget that she never had children, is too old now, and dated Jimmy Walker.



Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 12, 2019 11:20 AM (3sjI6)

82 The latest "Trump is losing support" narrative is loss of support in Trump counties cuz the trade war is hurting those counties the mostest.

.....


Everybody I know is no longer supporting Trump.
They all gave him a try, but it just didn't work out.

You aren't still supporting him are you? Gosh, no one is going to respect anymore because of it.

Posted by: Media Narrative for the Next 2 Years at March 12, 2019 11:20 AM (gCzjH)

83 This can go too far (I think "stop and frisk" was too far), but NYC's "broken windows" policing appears to have worked very well. Turning that back to the pre-"broken windows" policing scheme - if that is indeed what happened here - seems insane and that the results should have been expected.

Am I way off base on all of this, or is it as mad as it appears?
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Pretty much nailed it.
I can see both sides of the stop and frisk argument.
I don't have an answer to that.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 11:20 AM (LHT0w)

84 74 What's the alternative, Elizabeth Warren???

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Trump will win 2020 but a radical democrat gets in after, possible for one term only.
Posted by: Total Control Racist at March 12, 2019 11:19 AM (0cKff)

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That depends.

Do the Democrats nominate Biden? Then, yeah, the far left will have ammunition against the center left by saying, "We've tried your way and failed, so now it's our turn," and more people within the party will be willing to listen.

On the other hand, if they nominate almost literally anyone else (aside from maybe Kamala), it will be a far left victory and the center left will have their chance to crowd out the far left in the primary for 2024.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:21 AM (aFMSC)

85 It's almost as if the MSM lies and exaggerates and shit. But that can't be!! Can it?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM


I was down there last year to visit the VA hospital. Stayed at a hotel on Balboa and had time to cruise up and down Balboa and Geary. I saw enough. I'll never go back.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:21 AM (0tfLf)

86 @1

Trump is literally fighting everyone, EVERYONE. I cut the man a tremendous amount of slack.

He did not have to do this.

He literally was living the life of Reilly and said you, know what, I'm going to throw it all away to save the country I love.

G-d Bless that man and keep him safe.

Posted by: John The Savage at March 12, 2019 11:21 AM (NPt7e)

87 Rabble. Have to go in-person to pick up new license. You can only renew online once, apparently.

I'll be at the hostage of lazy bureaucrats. Ah well, I have audiobooks.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 11:22 AM (xJa6I)

88 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:19 AM (I2dne)

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I didn't say there are no bums. Just saying that there have always been bums in SF. And they were always aggressive to tourists. And they're mostly confined to a small part of the city. No bums in Nob Hill or outside the brand new Salesforce tower, for example.

But if you went by nothing but MSM reporting you'd think bums showed up in SF sometime in 2017 and there are 175,000 of them.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:22 AM (eZuvF)

89 opportunistic gadfly with nice tits and a horseface.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 12, 2019 11:18 AM (xqfqx)



My nice tits are a deep fake.

Posted by: Ann Coulter at March 12, 2019 11:20 AM (yDxHh)


Kudos to yer doctor, sugar tits.



Posted by: dananjcon at March 12, 2019 11:22 AM (xqfqx)

90
It seems to me Ann Coulter just might be right about Trump and that's
why he has turned on her with such vengeance. I hope I'm wrong.


Posted by: Jerry Jay Carroll at March 12, 2019 11:14 AM (SYCeT)


Trump always turns with a vengeance on anyone who criticizes him effectively. Thwarting him with actions does not get nearly the same response from him. That's his way.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 12, 2019 11:23 AM (xxAFD)

91 Oh I guess ICE would prefer Harris as their President? Corey Booker? Bernie? Riiiiight

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:23 AM (O2RFr)

92 This is the prime argument in favor of not just sitting back and watching everyone in Venezuela die while saying "well, not our circus, not our monkeys".
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:17 AM (Kpl3J)
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It is a prime argument for extremely tight and effective border control and deportation. "We should help those communists because if we don't, they'll invade us after the collapse" is an argument designed to hold us hostage and guarantee military action and also won't solve the problem. What we need to good physical border security and to unshackle the immigration system so we can detain people *briefly* before ejecting them and end this catch-and-release crap. If you're gonna make an asylum claim, you should be given the choice to remain in prison until you're processed or you can be issued with a cheap gadget like a cell phone to allow you to be processed remotely should you elect to be deported pending your hearing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:23 AM (I2dne)

93
Trump will win 2020 but a radical democrat gets in after, possible for one term only

One term only

Posted by: Marko Aleksandrovich Ramius at March 12, 2019 11:23 AM (P6KKD)

94 Quick reminder that stop and frisk is actually stop, question, and frisk. Leaving out the word question is intended to suggest probable cause is not first established.

Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 11:23 AM (hJHKc)

95 It seems to me Ann Coulter just might be right about Trump and that's
why he has turned on her with such vengeance. I hope I'm wrong.

Coulter is an attention whore

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (O2RFr)

96 If we have to catch and release, why can we not just back up to a truck gate at the border, activate a hydraulic ram and push them out onto the Mexican side of the border. That's the ONLY catch and release that make a bit of sense to me.

Posted by: BifBewalski - from my sofa king we todd did work laptop at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (td8Ta)

97 Can we sell Manhattan back?? I'd take beads.

Not those kinds, you perverts.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (pUDQf)

98 Pretty much nailed it.
I can see both sides of the stop and frisk argument.
I don't have an answer to that.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 11:20 AM


Stop and frisk was a lot like the early days of the TSA gropers. An unusually high number of attractive women were being double checked before people started pointing it out and registering valid complaints.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (0tfLf)

99 Yup, the all the cool kids are doing it narrative is already at defcon 5.



Posted by: dananjcon at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (xqfqx)

100 DICKS completely pulling guns from 125 stores. Because Dicks.

Who even buys there anymore after the last disaster? They probably stopped selling them because people told them to shove it.


Posted by: Marcus T at March 12, 2019 11:06 AM (VpIIl)

======A friend just got a Browning CITORI CX at DICKs. They met gun Brokers ridiculously low price and gave him $150 gift card. ended up he got it for $700 less than the sticker. He felt good about buying it because DICKs lost money on it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (pw+jk)

101 73 Vote 4 me cuz I was robbed in Georgia
Posted by: Stacey gap toothed Abrams at March 12, 2019 11:18 AM (P6KKD)

Vote 4 me or you're a racist!
Posted by: Corey Booker at March 12, 2019 11:19 AM (MPuQT)

Vote 4 me and I will do everything they accuse Trump of doing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (xJa6I)

102 The Washington Times, eh? Must be truth, then.
Posted by: Apostate at March 12, 2019 11:10 AM (3/h5t)

Well, a more reliable source than the Washington Post, so there's that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2019 11:25 AM (nPGq2)

103 It's been a long time since I looked it up, but it is already a federal crime to hire an illegal. The penalties are unpleasant for the first one or two and then get serious. Tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines plus 1 to 10 years in the slammer per violation IIRC.

Posted by: Mitch McSoze at March 12, 2019 11:25 AM (poi/u)

104 ======A friend just got a Browning CITORI CX at DICKs. They met gun Brokers ridiculously low price and gave him $150 gift card. ended up he got it for $700 less than the sticker. He felt good about buying it because DICKs lost money on it.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (pw+jk)

...

So you're saying Dick's is flooding the market with cheap guns.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM (yL25O)

105 Coulter is an attention whore


Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM


I used to be a fan until I realized she'd get particularly shrill when she was putting out a new book. I quit listening and I quit buying her books.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM (0tfLf)

106 The Washington Post, huh? That's like saying you believe the stories out of CNN.

Posted by: Sooner at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM (Fs5vw)

107 But if you went by nothing but MSM reporting you'd think bums showed up in SF sometime in 2017 and there are 175,000 of them.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:22 AM (eZuvF)
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Understood. I don't live there or know anyone who lives there, so I tend to be penned up in events-related areas and there are serious problems in those parts when I have been there.

That is also particularly interesting to me. If you have a "world class city" that solicits tourists and conventions, having the parts of town where those people go *also* be the parts of town that are deeply unpleasant (and after dark actually nerve-wracking) is madness.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM (I2dne)

108 100 DICKS completely pulling guns from 125 stores. Because Dicks.

Who even buys there anymore after the last disaster? They probably stopped selling them because people told them to shove it.


Posted by: Marcus T at March 12, 2019 11:06 AM (VpIIl)

======A friend just got a Browning CITORI CX at DICKs. They met gun Brokers ridiculously low price and gave him $150 gift card. ended up he got it for $700 less than the sticker. He felt good about buying it because DICKs lost money on it.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (pw+jk)

I'd say 'fuck Dicks' but that would sound strange.

On a related note, Cabelas sold me at a VERY good price a SIG P320 with a Romeo-1 reflex site factory installed. Picking it up today.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM (xJa6I)

109 Actual Slate Headline :

Biden: The Old White Giant

Imagine the vapors if Breitbart had a headline "Abrams: The Middle Aged Black Giant"

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM (eZuvF)

110 The news out of Caracas today is that the US is now closing its embassy and pulling out *all* of its remaining staff - they're in the process of destroying all documents, and will take down and burn the Flag before they leave.

It's a clear indication that the city is no longer safe, not even for those with an armed escort. It's all you can do as a civilization collapses. If they're reading the same reports as everyone else, they certainly realize that the biggest threat may be the cholera epidemics that will be starting sometime in the next few weeks. or days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:27 AM (Kpl3J)

111 Remember that Dicks and Field and stream are the same company.

Fuck em both.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2019 11:27 AM (pUDQf)

112 It seems to me Ann Coulter just might be right about Trump and that's
why he has turned on her with such vengeance. I hope I'm wrong.

Coulter is an attention whore
Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:24 AM (O2RFr)

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Coulter loves to make noise to help sell her books. It is nothing more than this.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 12, 2019 11:27 AM (ffYR/)

113 So where do people gather for fresh water in Caracas these days? Well, maybe not so fresh water. . .

Posted by: simplemind at March 12, 2019 11:19 AM (PHzkX)


If I were a younger man, I'd be thinking more about securing my situation at home.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 12, 2019 11:27 AM (xxAFD)

114 G-d Bless that man and keep him safe.

Amen. He didn't have to do any of this and he continues to fight. Let's not forget that.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 12, 2019 11:28 AM (kG5hP)

115 109 Actual Slate Headline :

Biden: The Old White Giant

Imagine the vapors if Breitbart had a headline "Abrams: The Middle Aged Black Giant"
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM (eZuvF)


You misspelled Tank.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2019 11:28 AM (pUDQf)

116 109 Actual Slate Headline :

Biden: The Old White Giant

Imagine the vapors if Breitbart had a headline "Abrams: The Middle Aged Black Giant"

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM (eZuvF)

I don't think calling Biden giant was a fat joke like it would be for Abrams?

Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 11:28 AM (hJHKc)

117 110 The news out of Caracas today is that the US is now closing its embassy and pulling out *all* of its remaining staff - they're in the process of destroying all documents, and will take down and burn the Flag before they leave.

It's a clear indication that the city is no longer safe, not even for those with an armed escort. It's all you can do as a civilization collapses. If they're reading the same reports as everyone else, they certainly realize that the biggest threat may be the cholera epidemics that will be starting sometime in the next few weeks. or days.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:27 AM (Kpl3J)

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That is sad.

Too bad that, no matter how bad it gets, no one will learn that socialism is a destructive ideology because Sweden, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:29 AM (aFMSC)

118 103: But donors like cheap labor so the GOP says fuck the laws

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 11:29 AM (U7k5w)

119 Didn't the Democrats load up the last budget bill with a bunch of open borders provisions? We need to release the illegals inside the gated communities where the open borders rich people live. How long would Pelosi put up with a couple thousand illegal aliens getting dropped off on her front lawn every day? Do that for all the most prominent open borders activists, including Republicans and donors. Then it will stop.

Posted by: zmdavid at March 12, 2019 11:29 AM (xqRaG)

120 I don't think calling Biden giant was a fat joke like it would be for Abrams?

No, they were insinuating he was a star.... LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:29 AM (O2RFr)

121 I dunno, I've lived in big cities most of my life and bums were always just there. It's almost like people who grow up in Minnesota not noticing the cold. You notice it, but it's just part of your life and you go about your business.

It's only when someone from Florida shows up in February that you think, oh yeah I guess it is cold as fuck, isn't it? Someone going to SF from Small Town USA will be like WTF is up with this shit? But to me, it's like, well this shit has been here as long as I can remember, but yeah now that you mention it, it does kinda suck.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:29 AM (eZuvF)

122 Too bad that, no matter how bad it gets, no one will learn that socialism is a destructive ideology because Sweden, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:29 AM (aFMSC)
+++++++++++
The answer is *always* either:
1) They didn't do it right
or
2) Look at Sweden

They don't talk about Sweden's crippling confiscatory taxes and destructive social policies, or that Sweden isn't actually a socialist country. It is a nominally free country with a titanic welfare state overhang. That doesn't work, either.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:30 AM (I2dne)

123 My prediction is that 'devastating and catastrophic predictions' have yet to peak.

Posted by: SMOD at March 12, 2019 11:30 AM (QkjLD)

124 >>On a related note, Cabelas sold me at a VERY good price a SIG P320 with a Romeo-1 reflex site factory installed. Picking it up today.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM (xJa6I)

Fifth (and Best) Law of Thermodynamics:

"Every thread will eventually become a gun thread."

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:30 AM (Bdeb0)

125 59 Cloward Piven

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 11:30 AM (U7k5w)

126 122 2) Look at Sweden

They don't talk about Sweden's crippling confiscatory taxes and destructive social policies, or that Sweden isn't actually a socialist country. It is a nominally free country with a titanic welfare state overhang. That doesn't work, either.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:30 AM (I2dne)

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Or that Sweden, until recently, had a very uniform population with a strong culture and work ethic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM (aFMSC)

127 On a related note, Cabelas sold me at a VERY good price a SIG P320 with a Romeo-1 reflex site factory installed. Picking it up today.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM

*******
Mark, Which Cabelas? The one down by Olympia is horrendously expensive. I've tended to stick to the PX at Ft Lewis.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM (0tfLf)

128
I don't think calling Biden giant was a fat joke like it would be for Abrams?
Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 11:28 AM (hJHKc)

___

Who the hell knows what those idiots think? LOL

I was referring to calling him old and white. That's OK. But calling Abrams middle aged and black would be literally worse than Hitler X 1000.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM (eZuvF)

129 My feeling is that the failing is not Trump's, but
primarily the opposition of the Democrats, and secondarily the GOPe.

Then of course, there is the Press/media, who are agents of the former.



Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM (xSo9G)

130 103 It's been a long time since I looked it up, but it is already a federal crime to hire an illegal. The penalties are unpleasant for the first one or two and then get serious. Tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines plus 1 to 10 years in the slammer per violation IIRC.

Posted by: Mitch McSoze at March 12, 2019 11:25 AM (poi/u)"

But, the trick is, an employer has to KNOW that an employee is an illegal in order to be liable. And if that employee comes up with something like a fake SS #, then the employer can say he thought he was legit. And there's no law saying he has to check out the fake number - and it's even better, the employer can get in trouble with any number of anti-discrimination rules and policies if he asks anything about Race or National Origin when hiring.

It's almost like it was all planned out so that people could pretend they were doing one thing, while they were actually doing the opposite.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM (Kpl3J)

131 Sweden is the US where the federal government takes over your retirement.

Posted by: SMOD at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM (QkjLD)

132 118 103: But donors like cheap labor so the GOP says fuck the laws

....

Correct. It's like cokeheads and methheads being put in charge of fixing the drug problem.

There will be only minor disagreement on how to go about doing nothing,

Posted by: Media Narrative for the Next 2 Years at March 12, 2019 11:32 AM (gCzjH)

133 It's almost as if the MSM lies and exaggerates and shit. But that can't be!! Can it?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at March 12, 2019 11:11 AM (eZuvF)
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My wife is in San Francisco this week for business, same as last year. She said it's even worse than last year. More bums, more shit, more paraphernalia laying about. Just south of the financial district.

Posted by: jhawk90 at March 12, 2019 11:32 AM (Xvo1a)

134 103 It's been a long time since I looked it up, but it is already a federal crime to hire an illegal. The penalties are unpleasant for the first one or two and then get serious. Tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines plus 1 to 10 years in the slammer per violation IIRC.
Posted by: Mitch McSoze at March 12, 2019 11:25 AM (poi/u)

Yup, we already have the laws on the books to stop a lot of sanctuary city crap, and find illegals.

Hell, a STATE could do it just by enforcing their Fraudulent Document laws, as that is STATE Law.

Posted by: Don Quixote, dreaming the impossible dream at March 12, 2019 11:32 AM (NgKpN)

135 Fifth (and Best) Law of Thermodynamics:

"Every thread will eventually become a gun thread."

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:30 AM



And/or boobs. And Sugar Tits was already mentioned up thread.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:32 AM (0tfLf)

136 129 My feeling is that the failing is not Trump's, but
primarily the opposition of the Democrats, and secondarily the GOPe.

Then of course, there is the Press/media, who are agents of the former.


Don't forget the Courts

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:32 AM (O2RFr)

137 That's OK. But calling Abrams middle aged and black would be literally worse than Hitler X 1000.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker
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The unasked question: Can she sing?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:32 AM (xSo9G)

138 119They go into gated communities to was the floors and weed the lawn. Also to spray poisons that Americans would use hazmat gear to touch

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 11:32 AM (U7k5w)

139 This college entrance thing seems like a BFD.

Posted by: Paste Eater at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM (9L2du)

140 Shoot the Illegals crossing the Border.

That will slow down the flow.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM (faNU0)

141 96 If we have to catch and release, why can we not just back up to a truck gate at the border, activate a hydraulic ram and push them out onto the Mexican side of the border. That's the ONLY catch and release that make a bit of sense to me.

*pout*

Posted by: international brotherhood of trebuchet builders at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM (sGtp+)

142 "It seems to me Ann Coulter just might be right about Trump and that's
why he has turned on her with such vengeance. I hope I'm wrong."

yes, that is what I thought. Trump promised to build the wall starting day one. A little exaggeration is fine, but he had the same money and authority then as now, but did nothing. Now he will contend with Pelosi's commies ... if he plans to spend the $8B he should start now and stop catch and release so he wins in 2020.


But maybe he has decided to go the appeasement route, and figure he has our votes already. I think THAT is why Coulter became so vocal with him, so he turned on the one that gave him the winning message -- her book, and I think he talked with her several times ... he even said something like "I didn't return her call, so she is mad" ... it is not PERSONAL Donald, you won on the promises ... Build the Wall, Lock her Up ... America is the jilted one.


Yes Trump has done some things that could have been done by Jeb!, and many other things ... but those two things for the base are most important for them, and for our future. or he is just a bump in their road.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM (Cus5s)

143 Big college bribe scandal going down now. Can't wait for Ace to post the thread for it.

Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM (xqdqQ)

144 Theory:

Millenials are most enamored of socialism because they are young. Because they are young, they haven't driven cars for very long. Because of that, they haven't had to sit in a crowded, loud, smelly, dumb Soviet-style Department of Motor Vehicles waiting room on a Saturday morning more than once or twice (if at all).

All "progressive socialists" or "democratic socialists" should be made to sit in a DMV for too long. That should cure most of them.

If they *still* want socialism, they should be exterminated as incorrigible.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:34 AM (Bdeb0)

145 Stop and frisk was a lot like the early days of the TSA gropers. An unusually high number of attractive women were being double checked before people started pointing it out and registering valid complaints.
Posted by: Diogenes


Did it really stop or decrease? Or are they shitcanning complaints? They did have a knack for "losing" camera footage.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2019 11:34 AM (6rX0K)

146 @81 Coulter dated Kid DynoMite?

Posted by: Mitch McSoze at March 12, 2019 11:34 AM (DbvPI)

147 Or that Sweden, until recently, had a very uniform population with a strong culture and work ethic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM

Or that the entire Nation of Sweden has just about the exact same population as the State of Michigan.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:34 AM (Kpl3J)

148 Paul Ryan just came out telling Trump to not make the 2020 election about him and if he does he will lose. Sigh. Go away Ryan.

Posted by: Cheri at March 12, 2019 11:35 AM (oiNtH)

149 My feeling is that the failing is not Trump's, but

primarily the opposition of the Democrats, and secondarily the GOPe.



Then of course, there is the Press/media, who are agents of the former.









Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM (xSo9G)


No, it's primarily the GOP and the bureaucracy they've created. If it were just the Democrats, the GOP could outvote them. At least, before the last election. It's all Potemkin theater.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 12, 2019 11:35 AM (xxAFD)

150
Big college bribe scandal going down now. Can't wait for Ace to post the thread for it.

Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM (xqdqQ)


This is actually pretty big. Some Hollywood actresses and their families involved, as well. The details of the scam are pretty incredible.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:35 AM (ptqGC)

151 >>142 "It seems to me Ann Coulter just might be right about Trump and that's why he has turned on her with such vengeance. I hope I'm wrong."

She's brassy and annoying and she slept with the pig-mutant Bill Maher. All the same, she's probably right.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:35 AM (Bdeb0)

152 Tanks

2 all of you 4 supporting me

Posted by: Stacey gap toothed Abrams at March 12, 2019 11:35 AM (P6KKD)

153
Or that Sweden, until recently, had a very uniform population with a strong culture and work ethic.




I'm not sure what you mean?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 11:36 AM (gCzjH)

154 Tanks

2 all of you 4 supporting me

Posted by: Stacey gap toothed Abrams at March 12, 2019 11:35 AM (P6KKD)


Tanks for the memories. Now get back to writing bad romance novels and go away.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:36 AM (ptqGC)

155 The news out of Caracas today is that the US is now closing its embassy and pulling out *all* of its remaining staff - they're in the process of destroying all documents, and will take down and burn the Flag before they leave.

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the right answer is to tell them to stay put and ignore requests for security assistance and tell armed forces who want to rescue them to stand down it's what a strong qualified woman would do but not a pussygrabber like orangeman

orangemanbad

Posted by: NPC_10001110101 at March 12, 2019 11:36 AM (AzW6q)

156 Big college bribe scandal going down now. Can't wait for Ace to post the thread for it.

Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM (xqdqQ)

This is actually pretty big. Some Hollywood actresses and their families involved, as well. The details of the scam are pretty incredible.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

Bribes to get into college? Or to stay in and get vanity degrees?

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM (6rX0K)

157 144 Theory:

Millenials are most enamored of socialism because they are young. Because they are young, they haven't driven cars for very long. Because of that, they haven't had to sit in a crowded, loud, smelly, dumb Soviet-style Department of Motor Vehicles waiting room on a Saturday morning more than once or twice (if at all).

All "progressive socialists" or "democratic socialists" should be made to sit in a DMV for too long. That should cure most of them.

If they *still* want socialism, they should be exterminated as incorrigible.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:34 AM (Bdeb0)

You assume more thought than they've given to the matter, or would give to the matter when confronted with government incompetence. Most of them are just following the herd, and have no curiosity as to what socialism means. The next level above that is expectationsl of gibs without concern for consequences.

Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM (hJHKc)

158
That depends

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You know? I'm not even looking at scenarios for how, just making a flat prediction, bald assertion, whatever you want to call it.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM (MCtb9)

159
Bribes to get into college? Or to stay in and get vanity degrees?
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM (6rX0K)

To get in and faking ACT/SAT scores. Gonna be some prisons filled after this one.

Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM (xqdqQ)

160 *Busts Through Wall*



Oooooh Yeeeeah!

Posted by: Hawaiin Judge at March 12, 2019 11:38 AM (faNU0)

161 If you're wondering why Trump was tweeting about planes being too complex, I think I found what he's responding to.
I saw this linked at Instapundit:

Ethiopia crash of Boeing 737 Max might be latest example of backfiring safety efforts

https://www.usatoday.com/
story/opinion/2019/03/12/
ethiopian-boeing-737-max-8-
crash-safety-cause-
indonesia-column/3133013002/

Posted by: zmdavid at March 12, 2019 11:38 AM (xqRaG)

162 My US Rep, Buddy Carter, proved himself to be the idiot many of us knew him to be on Fox last night.

He's a RINO who's joined the climate change mob.


Hey, Buddy. The 80's called and they want their hair back.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:38 AM (ptqGC)

163 Millenials are most enamored of socialism because they are young. Because they are young, they haven't driven cars for very long. Because of that, they haven't had to sit in a crowded, loud, smelly, dumb Soviet-style Department of Motor Vehicles waiting room on a Saturday morning more than once or twice (if at all).


Look at Mr. Hoity Toity having a DMV that is open on Saturday.

I'd gladly waste a Saturday at the DMV. Beats having to burn a vacation day doing it during the week.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (LHT0w)

164 We live in an age of Yellow Journalism.

Red Journalism with an audacity that would have shamed TASS.

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (mhs6e)

165 >>This is actually pretty big. Some Hollywood actresses and their families involved, as well. The details of the scam are pretty incredible.


Must be some ugly actresses if they had to resort to paying.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (faNU0)

166 How 'bout our citizenship test has an essay question on it?

"Explain in 500 words: Where do you think your former country went wrong?"

Posted by: RKae at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (Rd8+4)

167 This guy speaking on fox is a little hottie.

Posted by: Infidel at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (9L2du)

168 This is actually pretty big. Some Hollywood actresses and their families involved, as well. The details of the scam are pretty incredible.


I checked.. So far it's a bunch of child actresses and One of which is a Hallmark TV "star." I was hoping it was some big star or celebrity

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (O2RFr)

169 140 Shoot the Illegals crossing the Border.
That will slow down the flow.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM

It may be fun to say things like that, but the very first thing the left would do is to send through a bus filled with 8 year old catholic schoolgirls in plaid skirts, watched over by nuns, and there would be 20 cameras filming as they were all machined gunned. And then that film would play nonstop until the next election, which would be the last election this country ever has.

So no, we do not "shoot immigrants at the border".

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (Kpl3J)

170 All "progressive socialists" or "democratic socialists" should be made to sit in a DMV for too long. That should cure most of them.

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Look, human nature being what it is, there'll always be socialist hellholes around the world.

Every 18 year old who isn't in the armed forces should be made to live in one of them for at least six months. That'll cure them. And if not, they can stay since it's so freakin' sweet.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (AzW6q)

171 >>Most of them are just following the herd, and have no curiosity as to what socialism means.Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM (hJHKc)

You're probably right. A generation raised to stare patiently at a cellphone in a waiting room (or airport, or anywhere) is a generation accustomed to waiting FOR-FUCKING-EVER to get served by a surly, incompetent prole.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (Bdeb0)

172 She's brassy and annoying and she slept with the pig-mutant Bill Maher. All the same, she's probably right.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:35 AM (Bdeb0)

She's not right. Trump isn't the hard ass I would like him to be, but he's doing exactly what he said he would. Including welcoming more legal immigrants, which is a horrible policy. But given the opposition from all sides, it's remarkable what he's accomplished.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (xxAFD)

173 NYC. My GAF meter hovering around zero.

Posted by: Xipe Totec still banned at rgICo at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (A5B6s)

174 Don't forget the Courts
Posted by: It's me donna
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Occupied in no small part by Dem toadies.

The NAACP went judge shopping here, trying to stall our Voter ID law. Naturally, they found the right guy. A highly partisan, unprincipled (D), naturally.

Now, the voter ID law was placed on the ballot statewide, and passed convincingly. The judge has now declared that since the referendum was placed on the ballot by a legislature elected (by his standard) from 'gerrymandered' districts, it is not legal.

Note, he cannot make an argument against the legality of the ID Law (it's fine), or the fact that it was passed statewide by the voters. So, he uses an obtuse argument to invalidate it.

It's not the first time that the guy has done this kind of thing. And, yes, he does wear a bow tie.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (xSo9G)

175 123 My prediction is that 'devastating and catastrophic predictions' have yet to peak.
Posted by: SMOD at March 12, 2019 11:30 AM (QkjLD)

Go long on apocalypse.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (RD7QR)

176 This is actually pretty big. Some Hollywood actresses and their families involved, as well. The details of the scam are pretty incredible.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

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Please tell me NXIVM is involved!

Posted by: RKae at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (Rd8+4)

177 Bribes to get into college? Or to stay in and get vanity degrees?

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM (6rX0K)



To get in and faking ACT/SAT scores. Gonna be some prisons filled after this one.

Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM (xqdqQ)


Yep. And using fake athletic credentials to get into Yale, etc. and a Yale coach helped them. Also, the payments to this Singer weasel went to actual charities that were in on the scams and the parents even wrote off the payments.


I'm glad these elitists are going down. More, please.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (ptqGC)

178 Did it really stop or decrease? Or are they shitcanning complaints? They did have a knack for "losing" camera footage.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 12, 2019 11:34 AM

*******

My former boss is pretty good looking. We flew a lot together in the years following 9/11. She was forever getting stopped for an extra pat-down or another image in the xray. It got better but damn she was pissed.
She started to look around at the inspection station for other women and ask if that was happening to them too. If she got a couple of yesses, they get together and demand to see the boss. Effective.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (0tfLf)

179 >>I'd gladly waste a Saturday at the DMV. Beats having to burn a vacation day doing it during the week. Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (LHT0w)

Yours...is the superior...socialism.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:41 AM (Bdeb0)

180 This is actually pretty big. Some Hollywood actresses and their families involved, as well.

I'm pretty sure that's how I got a lot of my classmates at Stanford. Isn't that just how it's done?

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 11:41 AM (elfAG)

181 >>It may be fun to say things like that, but the very first thing the left would do is to send through a bus filled with 8 year old catholic schoolgirls in plaid skirts, watched over by nuns, and there would be 20 cameras filming as they were all machined gunned. And then that film would play nonstop until the next election, which would be the last election this country ever has


Shoot them, too.

It is either a border or it isn't.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 11:41 AM (faNU0)

182 Every 18 year old who isn't in the armed forces should be made to live in one of them for at least six months. That'll cure them. And if not, they can stay since it's so freakin' sweet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


^^^^THIS^^^^

Posted by: BifBewalski - from my sofa king we todd did work laptop at March 12, 2019 11:41 AM (td8Ta)

183
It may be fun to say things like that, but the very first thing the left would do is to send through a bus filled with 8 year old catholic schoolgirls in plaid skirts, watched over by nuns, and there would be 20 cameras filming as they were all machined gunned. And then that film would play nonstop until the next election, which would be the last election this country ever has.

So no, we do not "shoot immigrants at the border".

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:39 AM (Kpl3J)

Hire the cartels, or better yet the Bloods and Crips to gun down illegals crossing the border.

We can give it a catchy name, like Faster and Furiouser.

Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 11:41 AM (hJHKc)

184 This is actually pretty big. Some Hollywood actresses and their families involved, as well. The details of the scam are pretty incredible.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:35 AM (ptqGC)
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Had no idea it was that hard to get into USC, or that it would take a $500k bribe to do so.

Posted by: jhawk90 at March 12, 2019 11:41 AM (Xvo1a)

185
35 "But Zod, what happens when the human flypaper becomes too crowded with trapped Aztecs?"

Fire happens. Then, re-application.


so... trapped aztecs are a fire hazard?

Posted by: Anachronda at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (sGtp+)

186 Buddy Carter - what a stupid piece of shit. He's decided to suck up to the left, undoubtedly someone big has paid him to do so.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (Kpl3J)

187 151: I agree

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (U7k5w)

188 Remember this headline?...I think it was NY Daily News

Ford To NYC

Drop Dead!

Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (ykq7q)

189 But, the trick is, an employer has to KNOW that an employee is an illegal in order to be liable. And if that employee comes up with something like a fake SS #, then the employer can say he thought he was legit. And there's no law saying he has to check out the fake number - and it's even better, the employer can get in trouble with any number of anti-discrimination rules and policies if he asks anything about Race or National Origin when hiring.

It's almost like it was all planned out so that people could pretend they were doing one thing, while they were actually doing the opposite.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM (Kpl3J)

So, do you propose to put employers in jail should they have the misfortune to hire an illegal who has presented false documents, given that the employer has no way of verifying such documents?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (nPGq2)

190 It may be fun to say things like that, but the very first thing the left would do is to send through a bus filled with 8 year old catholic schoolgirls in plaid skirts, watched over by nuns, and there would be 20 cameras filming as they were all machined gunned.

....

You have to admit though, if you circulated videos of 8 year olds and nuns getting gunned down at the border, it'd probably slow the flow of illegals.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (gCzjH)

191 171 >>Most of them are just following the herd, and have no curiosity as to what socialism means.Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM (hJHKc)

You're probably right. A generation raised to stare patiently at a cellphone in a waiting room (or airport, or anywhere) is a generation accustomed to waiting FOR-FUCKING-EVER to get served by a surly, incompetent prole.
Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (Bdeb0)

When I'm feeling particularly paranoid I like to go into my foil-lined room in the basement of my house, put a piece of paper in my manual typewriter, and type up my speculation that cell phones were created to distract people from the creeping infiltration of socialism and fascism into their lives. Then I drink filtered rainwater and read my collection of Loompanics catalogs.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 11:43 AM (RD7QR)

192 174
It's not the first time that the guy has done this kind of thing. And, yes, he does wear a bow tie.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (xSo9G)

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The Left won't give up on the first step of voter integrity.

If they give up on that, then the tools they actually use will go under attack.

It probably helps to keep Voter ID as a visual thing to attract attention away from things like fraud in absentee ballots.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:43 AM (aFMSC)

193 181 It's a border on paper only

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 11:43 AM (U7k5w)

194 https://goo.gl/GMhssc
******
RAHM EMANUEL TO DEMOCRATS: DON'T BE SOCIALISTS, OR WE MAY LOSE TO TRUMP IN 2020
******
Didn't Ballerina Work for The 1st Socialist President ??

Posted by: AOCD at March 12, 2019 11:43 AM (BqBId)

195 It's not the first time that the guy has done this kind of thing. And, yes, he does wear a bow tie.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


too bad something cannot 'happen' to him on the way to the grocery store

Posted by: Tony Soprano at March 12, 2019 11:44 AM (td8Ta)

196 To get in and faking ACT/SAT scores. Gonna be some prisons filled after this one.

Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2019 11:37 AM


********

If the Crips start walking clockwise around the prison yard at 3PM, and the Bloods start in a counter-clockwise direction at 3:10PM, how many donuts will the guards have eaten by the time they meet.
Show your work.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:44 AM (0tfLf)

197 Felicity Huffman and Lori Laughlin are two actresses whose families are involved. They're being charged.

They even paid to have their non-athlete children's faces photo shopped onto pictures of actual high school athletes.


Boston College, Boston Univ., Northeastern, and Yale are involved so far.

At least 50 families involved so far, on both coasts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:44 AM (ptqGC)

198 If only it was discovered that illegal immigrants are largely transphobic and anti-day.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 12, 2019 11:44 AM (xfb67)

199 Every 18 year old who isn't in the armed forces should be made to live in one of them for at least six months. That'll cure them. And if not, they can stay since it's so freakin' sweet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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I've noted no mass migration to the much-admired socialist countries. From Denmark to Venezuela, no one goes.

No, they see a juicy apple here, waiting to be plucked.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:44 AM (xSo9G)

200 130 But, the trick is, an employer has to KNOW that an employee is an illegal in order to be liable


I'm not entirely sure what the status is on that. I do recall that WalMart had a million dollar interaction with the feds 15 years ago or so relating to one of their subcontractors (janitorial?) having hired illegals.
Questioning the validity of anyone's documents was and probably still is asking for trouble. So is accepting their documents if they are fake. The I-9 system was a total cluster back in the day, and I have no reason to believe that it has changed at all.

Posted by: Mitch McSoze at March 12, 2019 11:44 AM (cR4Qr)

201
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (nPGq2)

E-verify exists. Should be mandatory.

Posted by: I like cookies at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (xxAFD)

202 198 If only it was discovered that illegal immigrants are largely transphobic and anti-day.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 12, 2019 11:44 AM (xfb67)

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Fucking days...

They're just the worst.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (aFMSC)

203 Felicity Huffman and Lori Laughlin

Laughlin is a Hallmark channel star and Huffman is married to William Macy

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (O2RFr)

204 196: Scores have been bogus for a while, ETS is overrun with foreign personnel

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (U7k5w)

205 >>You have to admit though, if you circulated videos of 8 year olds and nuns getting gunned down at the border, it'd probably slow the flow of illegals.


Like a Tampon in a bullet hole.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (faNU0)

206 It may be fun to say things like that, but the very first thing the left would do is to send through a bus filled with 8 year old catholic schoolgirls in plaid skirts, watched over by nuns, and there would be 20 cameras filming as they were all machined gunned. And then that film would play nonstop until the next election, which would be the last election this country ever has.

So no, we do not "shoot immigrants at the border".
Posted by: Tom Servo




Psssst. If we don't do something about vote rigging within the next year, 2020 will be the last election this country ever has.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (LHT0w)

207 So, do you propose to put employers in jail should they have the misfortune to hire an illegal who has presented false documents, given that the employer has no way of verifying such documents?

They would figure something out, damned fast, wouldn't they? Perhaps not even bothering with risky hires.

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (elfAG)

208 RAHM EMANUEL TO DEMOCRATS: DON'T BE SOCIALISTS, OR WE MAY LOSE TO TRUMP IN 2020

******

Didn't Ballerina Work for The 1st Socialist President ??

Posted by: AOCD at March 12, 2019 11:43 AM (BqBId)


Gay, socialist, commie, whatev. You be you, Tiny Dancer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (ptqGC)

209 Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin Among Dozens Charged In Nationwide College Admissions Scheme

According to the criminal complaint released on Tuesday, the scheme began in 2011. Defendants with high school-aged children who were applying to college allegedly "conspired with others to use bribery and other forms of fraud to facilitate their children's admission to colleges and universities" in Massachusetts and elsewhere including Yale, Stanford, University of Texas, University of Southern California and UCLA.

Posted by: SMOD at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (QkjLD)

210 So, do you propose to put employers in jail should they have the misfortune to hire an illegal who has presented false documents, given that the employer has no way of verifying such documents?"

Nope, I'm really pointing out that the idea that you can stop people from hiring illegals is a ridiculous fantasy, something that makes people feel good to say but which will never happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (Kpl3J)

211 Big college bribe scandal going down now. Can't wait for Ace to post the thread for it.
Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM (xqdqQ)

Keep reminding him. Ace loves that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (nPGq2)

212 >> If only it was discovered that illegal immigrants are largely transphobic and anti-day.


Which is odd. Because there are a lot fewer shadows at night.

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 11:46 AM (faNU0)

213 201: But no executive order has even been tried.

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 11:46 AM (U7k5w)

214 202 198 If only it was discovered that illegal immigrants are largely transphobic and anti-day.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 12, 2019 11:44 AM (xfb67)

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Fucking days...

They're just the worst.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (aFMSC)

Cursed daystar...

Posted by: Someguy at March 12, 2019 11:46 AM (hJHKc)

215 Laughlin is a Hallmark channel star

...


Wasn't she on a Full House too?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 11:46 AM (gCzjH)

216 This college entrance thing seems like a BFD.
Posted by: Paste Eater /i]

Thank you, Mr. SuperInfluencer, for telling us what to talk about. We couldn't have done it without you.

Posted by: weft cut-l00p at March 12, 2019 11:46 AM (Hk+Y0)

217 Parents would pay Singer between $15,000-$75,000 to either have someone take the standardized test for their children or have someone correct the answers after the fact.

Posted by: SMOD at March 12, 2019 11:46 AM (QkjLD)

218 But, the trick is, an employer has to KNOW that an employee is an illegal in order to be liable

Sure, that's the Intent clause in the Constitution.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 12, 2019 11:46 AM (elfAG)

219 Millenials are most enamored of socialism because they are young. Because they are young, they haven't driven cars for very long. Because of that, they haven't had to sit in a crowded, loud, smelly, dumb Soviet-style Department of Motor Vehicles waiting room on a Saturday morning more than once or twice (if at all).
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Many also haven't served in the military to see what it's like to have the government in control of services such as healthcare, as well as many, many aspects of how you live your life.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 12, 2019 11:47 AM (vg8iE)

220 210: E verify, use it or go to jail if you hire cheap illegals

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 11:47 AM (U7k5w)

221 It probably helps to keep Voter ID as a visual thing to attract attention away from things like fraud in absentee ballots.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Agreed. Motor voter, vote by mail, vote by internet, in all of their permutations are far more dangerous.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:47 AM (CDGwz)

222 When I'm feeling particularly paranoid I like to go into my foil-lined room in the basement of my house

That won't work...you need a faraday cage made out of steel screen to protect yourself from me.

Posted by: EMP and Solar Flare Galactic Union of Benevolent Extinction Events at March 12, 2019 11:47 AM (td8Ta)

223
Parents would pay Singer between $15,000-$75,000 to either have someone
take the standardized test for their children or have someone correct
the answers after the fact.

Posted by: SMOD at March 12, 2019 11:46 AM (QkjLD)


These young graduates would go on to become Our Betters.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:47 AM (ptqGC)

224 "conspired with others to use bribery and other forms of fraud to facilitate their children's admission to colleges and universities" in Massachusetts and elsewhere including Yale, Stanford, University of Texas, University of Southern California and UCLA.

In my opinion college admission had been a fraud for a long time....Certain "groups" are given special treatment as are the kids of "important" people...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:47 AM (O2RFr)

225 >>so... trapped aztecs are a fire hazard?
Posted by: Anachronda at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (sGtp+)

Fuel. Or vulture food.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:47 AM (Bdeb0)

226 So, do you propose to put employers in jail should they have the misfortune to hire an illegal who has presented false documents, given that the employer has no way of verifying such documents?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (nPGq2)
++++++++++++++
No. We have e-verify, which is the liability limiter. You use e-verify to confirm citizenship. If they pass e-verify, then your liability ends there if they end up being an illegal alien. If they fail e-verify, I can even see having a 6-month grace period that can be used at the employer's discretion to allow the person to follow up and deal with the paperwork problem. Each employee can only use that grace period once.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (I2dne)

227 Any one wanna go halvies, ahem ok 1/4ies??
https://tinyurl.com/y3w8ftyp


Posted by: dananjcon at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (xqfqx)

228 RAHM EMANUEL TO DEMOCRATS: DON'T BE SOCIALISTS, OR WE MAY LOSE TO TRUMP IN 2020

******

That horse has left the barn

Posted by: SMOD at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (QkjLD)

229 Many also haven't served in the military to see what it's like to have the government in control of services such as healthcare, as well as many, many aspects of how you live your life.
Posted by: bicentennialguy
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Pop down to the VA, and try to choose your doctor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (CDGwz)

230 I don't want to believe it but I think Trump has let the specter of re-election effect some of his decisions of inaction. All the low hanging fruit has been picked.

That said, he's been more than a net positive.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (bLhAC)

231 215 Laughlin is a Hallmark channel star

...


Wasn't she on a Full House too?

Yes in her youth

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (O2RFr)

232 "It's almost like it was all planned out so that
people could pretend they were doing one thing, while they were actually
doing the opposite."Posted by: Tom Servo


I concur ... Mitch and Ryan both laughed about the wall "we're not going to build a wall" said Mitch with a smirk. Cuz he does not serve We the People ...


They serve globalists, who want cheap labor yes, but also consumers who will go in deep debt to buy buy buy. They can get money from labor, but also welfare, and they pay no taxes. Money goes right to the corps and largely to China, and/or the richest on Wall Street, and the banks lending out more than they have. Debt for consumers, debt for the state ... Globalists own everything. A few with mutual funds are happy, for now, but vulnerable.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (Cus5s)

233 221 It probably helps to keep Voter ID as a visual thing to attract attention away from things like fraud in absentee ballots.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Agreed. Motor voter, vote by mail, vote by internet, in all of their permutations are far more dangerous.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:47 AM (CDGwz)

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Okay, we'll give up on voter ID, but in return we purge the voter rolls, limit the use of absentee ballots, and put in place criminal penalties for election officials who oversee precincts that have more votes than registered voters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:49 AM (aFMSC)

234 Fucking days...

They're just the worst.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (aFMSC)

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Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun!

Posted by: Monty Burns at March 12, 2019 11:49 AM (AzW6q)

235 Felicity Huffman is one of the celebs caught in the sting.

Posted by: kallisto at March 12, 2019 11:49 AM (73ec4)

236 What's the point of "catch" if it's followed by "release"? Is it like sport fishing?

I've no problem with it in that context, but illegal aliens are more akin to an invasive species that's destroying our ecosystem. If they're released at all, it should be into their natural environment.

The more I think about that analogy the more it rings true. There are no natural checks on their behavior or locust like expansion, they bring a host of diseases and environmental damage we're not equipped to cope with, etc.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 12, 2019 11:49 AM (/qEW2)

237 If you want to see the future, imagine a gigantic boot stomping on a bus full of Catholic girls and nuns, forever.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (Bdeb0)

238 234 Fucking days...

They're just the worst.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:45 AM (aFMSC)

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Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun!
Posted by: Monty Burns at March 12, 2019 11:49 AM (AzW6q)

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I, too, remember when The Simpsons was good.

See my vest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (aFMSC)

239 227 Any one wanna go halvies, ahem ok 1/4ies??
https://tinyurl.com/y3w8ftyp


Posted by: dananjcon at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (xqfqx)

Do not tempt me. I can't afford it and still think it's a good idea.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (RD7QR)

240 The most underreported part of the immigration crisis is that illegal populations count for apportionment purposes in the census. Why? How can we change this? This probably gives CA 10 extra seats in congress.

Posted by: zmdavid at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (xqRaG)

241 214 202 198 If only it was discovered that illegal immigrants are largely transphobic and anti-day.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 12, 2019 11:44 AM (xfb67)

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Have a committee of trannies and gays at the border to welcome them. See how they respond.

Posted by: N. L. Urker at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (JgA4k)

242 Pop down to the VA, and try to choose your doctor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc

I just wasted good coffee! That's right up there with if you have a service connected disability, you can keep your service connected disability

Posted by: BifBewalski - i am sofa king we todd did at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (td8Ta)

243 In my opinion college admission had been a fraud for a long time....Certain "groups" are given special treatment as are the kids of "important" people...
Posted by: It's me donna
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You're just pissed off that I'm going to Harvard.

Posted by: David Hogg at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (CDGwz)

244 A generation raised to stare patiently at a cellphone in a waiting room (or airport, or anywhere) is a generation accustomed to waiting FOR-FUCKING-EVER to get served by a surly, incompetent prole.

I find the DMV pretty bad, but in my local one the times have shortened quite a bit and the people are reasonably pleasant. The one in Newark-which is NOT local was awful with the waiting time. However, if I know I have to go to the DMV I bring a book or some work and am fairly patient because I know the wait is going to be longer than I'd like. I'm not looking at my phone because it's an ancient one, and all I can get on it is text messages, and I'm just not that popular. So my patience has nothing to do with being a millennial and endorsing socialism. I also pray----to God to help pass the time, not to Zod. At the DMV in Newark I brought the ASHQ prayer list with me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (AllCR)

245 Well, that explains how "Choom gang" got into Harvard.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (xfb67)

246 They need to separate Trump from his followers. Beware of ANYTHING you read between now and November 2020.

Posted by: ... at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (AXiPC)

247
Many also haven't served in the military to see what it's like to have
the government in control of services such as healthcare, as well as
many, many aspects of how you live your life.

Posted by: bicentennialguy

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Pop down to the VA, and try to choose your doctor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (CDGwz)


Our son just had another appointment cancelled by the Charleston VA, where he has to go for physicals, etc. He has tinnitus which is driving him crazy and the local VA told him he should have complained of it when he first got out. Well, he did BEFORE HE LEFT THE CORPS, and when he got out, but they've "lost" his records.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (ptqGC)

248 Okay, we'll give up on voter ID, but in return we purge the voter rolls, limit the use of absentee ballots, and put in place criminal penalties for election officials who oversee precincts that have more votes than registered voters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:49 AM (aFMSC)
+++++++++++
I'd be perfectly happy with this. The libertarian in me doesn't like voter ID because you aren't actually required to posses a state-issued ID in most cases.

I would like to see really aggressive voter-roll maintenance. After each midterm, the rolls should be burned and then you have until six month prior to the next election (e.g., 18 months) to go re-register.

And AVR must never, ever, be allowed to pass.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:51 AM (I2dne)

249 >>236 What's the point of "catch" if it's followed by "release"? Is it like sport fishing?

Catch. Fillet. Add butter, slivered almonds, lemon juice. Sautee over fire for approx. 15 minutes.

Old and busted: Wall.
New hotness: Border-side human rotisserie.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:51 AM (Bdeb0)

250 >>Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun!


'See this sweater?
There's no better
than authentic Irish Setter!'

Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 11:51 AM (faNU0)

251 What's the point of "catch" if it's followed by "release"? Is it like sport fishing?

None... Once they come over the border they are more or less home free... They get a free Lawyer, a court date and they are off never to be seen again unless they perpetrate crimes.

Posted by: It's me donna at March 12, 2019 11:51 AM (O2RFr)

252 So, do you propose to put employers in jail should they have the misfortune to hire an illegal who has presented false documents, given that the employer has no way of verifying such documents?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2019 11:42 AM (nPGq2)

You reminded me that one of the biggest violaters of knowingly hiring illegals had his sentence commuted.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at March 12, 2019 11:51 AM (bLhAC)

253 If you're not at work... RLM Captain SJW review is up

Posted by: House Music All Night Long at March 12, 2019 11:51 AM (vtd+q)

254 "conspired with others to use bribery and other forms of fraud to facilitate their children's admission to colleges and universities" in Massachusetts

And how much for the Kenyan prince?

Is it really a crime to lie to or bribe a college? How are you going to get some of your bigger buildings on campus?

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 11:51 AM (oTMWb)

255 248 would like to see really aggressive voter-roll maintenance. After each midterm, the rolls should be burned and then you have until six month prior to the next election (e.g., 18 months) to go re-register.

And AVR must never, ever, be allowed to pass.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:51 AM (I2dne)

=========

I honestly wouldn't mind re-registering every 2 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:52 AM (aFMSC)

256 22 DICKS completely pulling guns from 125 stores. Because Dicks.

Who even buys there anymore after the last disaster? They probably stopped selling them because people told them to shove it.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 12, 2019 11:06 AM (VpIIl)


Yup. Their market is now apparel and high school sports equipment. Expect camping and fishing to go away there, too.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at March 12, 2019 11:52 AM (di1hb)

257 Why don't we give illegals jobs building the wall?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 12, 2019 11:52 AM (xfb67)

258 245 Well, that explains how "Choom gang" got into Harvard.

Proposed: that Harvard has done more harm to this country over the past five decades than any other entity, not excluding the USSR, Al Qaeda, the Bush and Clinton families, etc.

Posted by: JEM at March 12, 2019 11:52 AM (8erNz)

259 Fifth (and Best) Law of Thermodynamics:



"Every thread will eventually become a gun thread."

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:30 AM


Every thread is inherently a gun thread. Sometimes it just takes longer to realize this.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 12, 2019 11:52 AM (p+Wdc)

260 In my opinion college admission had been a fraud for a long time....Certain "groups" are given special treatment as are the kids of "important" people...
Posted by: It's me donna
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I made it into Brown on my own merit!

Uh...the work proved a bit difficult for my SS guys. Assholes. I got bounced.

Posted by: David Hogg at March 12, 2019 11:53 AM (CDGwz)

261 Michael Jackson responds with to Leaving Neverland.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8CgdRLnDQ&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2019 11:53 AM (mWkbG)

262 And how much for the Kenyan prince?

Is it really a crime to lie to or bribe a college? How are you going to get some of your bigger buildings on campus?

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 11:51 AM (oTMWb)


I'm pretty sure claiming to be an Indonesian citizen helped Choom Boy get in. Which is another reason his transcripts will never see the light of day.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:53 AM (ptqGC)

263 I'm pretty sure admissions bribery is responsible for a sizable portion of University endowments and physical plant.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 12, 2019 11:53 AM (AzW6q)

264 The DMV has gotten a lot better, at least in my part of the world. A better example is the airport. TSA is the hurry-up-and-wait, invasive, surly, oppressive nightmare scenario of bureaucratic overreach and dominance that should become the new cultural touchstone of bureaucratic overreach and dominance.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:53 AM (I2dne)

265 Note, he cannot make an argument against the legality of the ID Law (it's fine), or the fact that it was passed statewide by the voters. So, he uses an obtuse argument to invalidate it.

It's not the first time that the guy has done this kind of thing. And, yes, he does wear a bow tie.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:40 AM (xSo9G)

Put a referendum question on the next ballot to have that judge hanged.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2019 11:53 AM (nPGq2)

266 >>I find the DMV pretty bad, but in my local one the times have shortened quite a bit and the people are reasonably pleasant. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 11:50 AM (AllCR)

Servitude and camp life will come more easily to you, human.

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:53 AM (Bdeb0)

267 I made it into Brown on my own merit!

Uh...the work proved a bit difficult for my SS guys. Assholes. I got bounced.
Posted by: David Hogg

Posted by: Amy Carter at March 12, 2019 11:53 AM (CDGwz)

268 No socialism makes perfect sense and appeals to the more logically oriented sorts, and pinheads, of course. If you buy into the theory then it accounts for everything, has a ready answer waiting, offers stimulating debate with fellow travelers and advancement for the mediocre. It has everything going for it except it doesn't work and it ignores all that was ever known about humanity.

I firmly believe that we will have it in relatively short order, after Trump is gone. Maybe not named as such. If you accept deep State actors as a reality, then possibly it's being allowed with the idea of killing the chicken in front of the monkey. Allow it, crash the economy, accelerate the natural death of socialism and cash in on the fall. Paging Soros.

I know that's cynical.

I kind of think maybe other elites saw the same thing coming in other countries and tried it before. Socialism has it's own defenses against this manipulation and it can linger on longer than expected.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at March 12, 2019 11:53 AM (Z92n0)

269 I spent about an hour watching Forgotten Weapons on the youtubes last night.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 12, 2019 11:54 AM (xfb67)

270 They serve globalists, who want cheap labor yes, but also consumers who will go in deep debt to buy buy buy. They can get money from labor, but also welfare, and they pay no taxes. Money goes right to the corps and largely to China, and/or the richest on Wall Street, and the banks lending out more than they have. Debt for consumers, debt for the state ... Globalists own everything. A few with mutual funds are happy, for now, but vulnerable.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (Cus5s)


You mean globalists support entitlements because that means taxpayers are paying the recipients to buy the globalists' stuff? Why, that sounds almost unethical. People forced to pay for products and services that they don't use. People paying to bail out companies whose products and services they don't use.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 12, 2019 11:54 AM (/qEW2)

271 >>257 Why don't we give illegals jobs building the wall? Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 12, 2019 11:52 AM (xfb67)

Why don't we build a wall out of illegals?

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:54 AM (Bdeb0)

272 Well, he did BEFORE HE LEFT THE CORPS, and when he got out, but they've "lost" his records.
Posted by: Jane D'oh


I'm going to have to self pay for two rebuilt knees because of crap like that from the VA. Hope you son has the stamina to force them to do the right thing. I gave up after 12 years.

Posted by: BifBewalski - i am sofa king we todd did at March 12, 2019 11:54 AM (td8Ta)

273 I want to see a list of the charities Singer laundered money through. The charities agreed to go along with the scam, and the parents WROTE OFF the payments to the charities.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 12, 2019 11:54 AM (ptqGC)

274 If you are paying to fake credentials to gain entrance into a school, that's one thing.

If you are faking credentials to get scholarships....that's something else entirely,
IMO as a barstool prosecutor.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 12, 2019 11:54 AM (gCzjH)

275 Nood

Posted by: Thanatopsis at March 12, 2019 11:54 AM (IKICP)

276 I honestly wouldn't mind re-registering every 2 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at March 12, 2019 11:52 AM (aFMSC)
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I'd be fine with that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:55 AM (I2dne)

277 Parents would pay Singer between $15,000-$75,000 to either have someone
take the standardized test for their children or have someone correct
the answers after the fact.

Posted by: SMOD at March 12, 2019 11:46 AM (QkjLD)

These young graduates would go on to become Our Betters.

Posted by: Jane D'oh


After bartending.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 12, 2019 11:55 AM (LHT0w)

278 In my opinion college admission had been a fraud for a long time....Certain "groups" are given special treatment as are the kids of "important" people...
Posted by: It's me donna

*******

It is corrupt to the core. In part by corrupt management of the exams, in part by the affirmative action requirements levied by government.
Also making parents desperate is that they are learning that when little Johnnie/Judy have reached high school, they are functionally illiterate.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:55 AM (0tfLf)

279 e-verify could work if they wanted. Trump has been convinced we need massive legal immigration. But the H1B brings a wife and maybe kids, or has child citizens here. IF they became American to the core, maybe OK, but are our college kids still being pushed out of the better jobs?


In the end, cheap labor to enrich the corporations is not the best answer. We can't do that to compete with China (or India) that cheat, pollute, treat people like slaves, and are commie (or a version of tyranny). But the Bush Doctrine of spreading democracy did not go smoothly, and enriched China as we spent trillions accomplishing little in MENA. But surrendering national heritage to the third world invasion is no solution, it is surrender to "fascism".

Posted by: illiniwek at March 12, 2019 11:57 AM (Cus5s)

280 127 On a related note, Cabelas sold me at a VERY good price a SIG P320 with a Romeo-1 reflex site factory installed. Picking it up today.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 11:26 AM

*******
Mark, Which Cabelas? The one down by Olympia is horrendously expensive. I've tended to stick to the PX at Ft Lewis.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2019 11:31 AM (0tfLf)

North end, Tulalip.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 12, 2019 11:57 AM (xJa6I)

281 Uh...the work proved a bit difficult for my SS guys. Assholes. I got bounced.
Posted by: David Hogg
Posted by: Amy Carter
---------------

That, btw, was one of the great column headers of the 80's. A rare feel-good moment:

AMY CARTER IS REPORTED DISMISSED FROM COLLEGE
https://www. nytimes.com [/b /1987/07/20/us/amy-carter-is-reported...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:58 AM (xSo9G)

282 Big breaking story on Fox news. TV stars among dozens accused by feds of paying millions to place kids in elite colleges. Actresses, CEO's.. dozens arrested. LMAO! This made my day!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 12, 2019 11:58 AM (kG5hP)

283 so we bitch, but anyone else have legal ideas for Trump?

we can't even get ourselves together enough to show up.

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 11:58 AM (gLMhO)

284 Yikes...nearly went boldly into the Barrel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2019 11:58 AM (xSo9G)

285 Sherriff Joe and tent cities

Posted by: Kactus at March 12, 2019 11:59 AM (HIasT)

286 Big breaking story on Fox news. TV stars among dozens accused by feds of paying millions to place kids in elite colleges. Actresses, CEO's.. dozens arrested. LMAO! This made my day!!
Posted by: Jewells45
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I don't see the problem...

Posted by: Al Gore at March 12, 2019 11:59 AM (xSo9G)

287 jewells, this has always been a thing, people want the best for Their kids, That average Joe re Taxes also pays for those colleges to exists and fk up the kids pissed me off.

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:00 PM (gLMhO)

288 285 Sherriff Joe and tent cities
Posted by: Kactus at March 12, 2019 11:59 AM (HIasT)
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Make sure you put them in red states for the 2020 census. Then they would get extra seats in congress based on increased population.

Posted by: zmdavid at March 12, 2019 12:01 PM (xqRaG)

289 Big breaking story on Fox news. TV stars among dozens accused by feds of paying millions to place kids in elite colleges. Actresses, CEO's.. dozens arrested.

The big shock is going to be from people going, "you mean corruption is illegal now?"

Posted by: t-bird at March 12, 2019 12:02 PM (asM0l)

290 as a concerned citizen , I do see that there still is a lack of will for congress to fight to maintain our sovereignty , they openly state they want global voters for America (because money man), I'd like to know HOW exactly Trump is supposed to fight?

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:02 PM (gLMhO)

291 No. We have e-verify, which is the liability limiter. You use e-verify to confirm citizenship. If they pass e-verify, then your liability ends there if they end up being an illegal alien. If they fail e-verify, I can even see having a 6-month grace period that can be used at the employer's discretion to allow the person to follow up and deal with the paperwork problem. Each employee can only use that grace period once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (I2dne)

That's a good answer. I'm fine with drastic penalties for employers knowingly and willfully hiring illegals, but the flip side of the coin is that there has to be an easily-met standard for due diligence.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 12, 2019 12:03 PM (nPGq2)

292 We have e-verify, which is the liability limiter. You use e-verify to confirm citizenship. If they pass e-verify, then your liability ends there if they end up being an illegal alien. If they fail e-verify, I can even see having a 6-month grace period that can be used at the employer's discretion to allow the person to follow up and deal with the paperwork problem. Each employee can only use that grace period once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 12, 2019 11:48 AM (I2dne)


sure do you think congress and the senate will follow that hope?

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:04 PM (gLMhO)

293 Is it really a crime to lie to or bribe a college? How are you going to get some of your bigger buildings on campus?
Posted by: t-bird


There are a series of checks and balances. Really big checks result in improved balances.

Posted by: Dean Martin at March 12, 2019 12:05 PM (6rX0K)

294 We have e-verify, which is the liability limiter. You use e-verify to confirm citizenship. If they pass e-verify, then your liability ends there if they end up being an illegal alien. If they fail e-verify,

how about there are heavy fines and actual prosection for those congress and senate members taking kick backs from corps for open borders ? we know what They are doing!

selling the country out for their nest eggs.

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:06 PM (gLMhO)

295 0 Shoot the Illegals crossing the Border.

That will slow down the flow.
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2019 11:33 AM (faNU0)

Nope. Start shooting the organizers. This could be done in Central America or Mehico without many consequences.

Posted by: Sooner at March 12, 2019 12:07 PM (Fs5vw)

296 isn't it the obligation of congress and the senate to keep our borders secure?
If they won't allow Trump to aren't they also Obligated to do so?

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:09 PM (gLMhO)

297 266-I expect that I will have gone to glory before "camp life" happens, Zod. But this is why you're Zod and not God- because you're too impatient when you have to go to the DMV.

2 Peter 3:9 among other verses says that God is patient and slow to anger.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2019 12:11 PM (AllCR)

298 we are supposed to be a sovereign country, a country without borders isn't sovereign at all, or a country specifically

Who's fault is that?

who is paying who?

who the fk runs the country anyway?
It certainly isn't us.

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:11 PM (gLMhO)

299 I've been out of the loop for a few days....sooooo, how did the long anticipated hook up go?????

Posted by: lin-duh @ werk at March 12, 2019 12:13 PM (9iLHi)

300 298 Donors, the pols are sluts, we are tax slaves

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 12:13 PM (U7k5w)

301 so we allow other people to annex us? Where is all the caterwauling to those that are actually fkn the country up?

I see England I see france...


really?

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:14 PM (gLMhO)

302 CN, sure we are expected to Pay the Donors actual costs of having cheap labor.

why don't we fight back? We expect one guy and a handful of other to do it because we Know what the hell is going on?

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:15 PM (gLMhO)

303 289: Since when is buying your way into college illegal? it's been going on since we had universities...Kennedys at Harvard?

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 12:16 PM (U7k5w)

304 302: We voted for more than one guy. And now the one guy is championing more and more legal immigration to drive down existing wages. Donors thrilled. What are going to do? Riot? Conservatives will he shot unlike border sneaks

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 12:19 PM (U7k5w)

305 I actually could care less if richy guys kid gets into the best college they Vote to make the most victim' de joire of the day get front space seating, so they should live with their kid going to the end of the list.

do like average joe American does and strive every day to succeed , life kicks your ass? yeah, get in line.

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:19 PM (gLMhO)

306 ofcol, He is not voting to do so, He has no Back up.

Posted by: willow at March 12, 2019 12:20 PM (gLMhO)

307 Why don't we build a wall out of illegals?

Posted by: Zod at March 12, 2019 11:54 AM (Bdeb0)


Keep stealing my ideas and I'll build a skull pyramid from your countrymen.

Posted by: Tamerlane at March 12, 2019 12:22 PM (xxAFD)

308 304: He doesn't have DOJ. but then he's the one putting these people in charge. He's not as effective as I hoped

Posted by: CN at March 12, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)

309 test

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 12, 2019 01:47 PM (so+oy)

310 Bill Wittol and the Bullswork.

Posted by: Ralph at March 12, 2019 03:45 PM (MgAiR)

311 Trump has made it absolutely clear that he is not interested in _doing_ anything about this. He is only interested in _looking_ like he's doing something about it.

Electing Trump in 2016 was a good move. De-electing Trump in 2020 will also be a good move. Even if it means President Kamala. This business of constantly rewarding failure theater has to stop.

Posted by: Rollory at March 12, 2019 10:55 PM (tWkwp)

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Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat