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Local Diocese's Investigation Finds Covington Kids Did Nothing Wrong;
Lawyer Confirms They'll Be Suing Nathan Philips
The Diocese's report is here. After interviews with all the kids and school and parent chaperones, and a review of 50 hours of video footage, the Diocese finds the kids did absolutely nothing wrong.
Neither Nathan Philiips nor his daughter responded to any of the Diocese's requests for an interview. Regarding the other videos showing some boys who may or may not be Covington students saying rude things, in one case, the diocese finds they weren't even Covington students at all, and in other, they can't determine if they're Covington students at all. But that doesn't matter, because you can't even tell what the students say. (Though the left immediately jumped to the claim that if you can't determine what they said, it must have been Racist or Rapey.)This article digests the findings.
In a letter to CovCath parents, Bishop Roger Foys wrote that the investigation "has demonstrated that our students did not instigate the incident that occurred at the Lincoln Memorial." "I am pleased to inform you that my hope and expectation ... that the results of our inquiry ... would 'exonerate our students so that they can move forward with their lives' has been realized," Foys wrote. Despite the initiation perception by many people online, the students actually "were placed in a situation that was at once bizarre and even threatening," Foys wrote. "Their reaction to the situation was, given the circumstances, expected and one might even say laudatory."Meanwhile, Nathan Philips may not have a choice as to whether or not he'll answer questions at his next court-mandated interview.
L. Lin Wood, an Atlanta-based attorney who specializes in aggressive defamation suits against the media, told LifeSiteNews on Friday that Nathan Phillips' "lies and false accusations" against Sandmann and the other Covington students are "well documented" and he will be sued. He confirmed to PJ Media on Twitter Wednesday that he intends to sue Phillips. Wood explained in a tweet last week that a sworn deposition from Phillips would "prove invaluable in obtaining justice" for his client.
Nathan Phillips will be sued for his defamatory lies. https://t.co/deVYPpHX3H
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) February 9, 2019
While it is true that civil lawsuits are about money damages (1) for injury done & (2) to punish and deter, they also reveal the truth. The sworn deposition testimony of Nathan Phillips will prove invaluable in obtaining justice for Nick Sandmann. And it will be one of many.
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) February 9, 2019
Justice for Nick Sandmann is not about politics - it is about truth. But politicians should not get a pass. In announcing her candidacy, Elizabeth Warren said “I will never give up on your children and their future.” She has not deleted this tweet or apologized to Nick Sandmann. https://t.co/sZ6LFpx7OJ
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) February 11, 2019
Bill Maher falsely accused Nick Sandmann of sticking his face in “this elderly man’s face.” He vilified Nick by using obscene profanities to describe a 16-year old. HBO counsel wrote, “any effort to pursue a claim against HBO or Mr. Maher would be frivolous.” I disagree. Do you?
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) February 11, 2019
HBO counsel claims a lawsuit against Bill Maher will be frivolous because he only engages in “satirical humor.” In the future, HBO should check its billboards before responding to demand letters. pic.twitter.com/bFhYKrsYsZ
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) February 12, 2019
Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world, has used media to express his outrage over reporting about him. Yet, Mr. Bezos has not publicly uttered one word about the rush by The Washington Post to falsely accuse & defame Nick Sandmann, a 16-year old. The double standard must end.
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) February 11, 2019
I am not holding my breath waiting for an investigative report from Washington Post, CNN, Associated Press, etc., etc. Litigation will reveal that Nick’s accusers conducted no proper investigation prior to publishing their false attacks on a minor. Discovery is a stubborn thing.
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) February 13, 2019
At least I got this out of it: https://t.co/T4pCJK4j54
— Jeremy McLellan (@JeremyMcLellan) February 13, 2019
We have now reached the “Bargaining” phase of the “5 Stages of Grief That You Shared An Internet Hoax,” which is when you pivot to smaller allegations in an attempt to justify the original mob. The smartest ones drop truth altogether and pivot to “the larger context.”
— Jeremy McLellan (@JeremyMcLellan) January 21, 2019
I think that nasty little washed-up aged-out NPC bitch is being sued so she really ought to stop doubling down on her defamations. McLellan sums up:
Examples include "well they were wearing MAGA hats" and "even if it didn't happen, it says a lot about racism in our culture." Key elements include suddenly switching to the passive voice and speaking poetically about society.
After all, @maggieNYT [Maggie Haberman] isn’t *SAYING* that the kids are racist against American Indians. Of course not. She's merely placing the episode in the larger context of Catholic genocide of American Indians. Now, if you come away from that thinking the kids are racist, that's on you. Bargaining:[quoted tweet]Bargaining:
@annehelen
I have watched all of the videos. You can understand that the situation was more complex than the first video and still recognize why the sight of that face caused a visceral reaction in so many.[quoted tweet]... Bargaining.
@JamesMartinSJ
Another essential lesson, which transcends whatever happened in Washington this weekend: an understanding of the appalling treatment that Native Americans have endured in our country. That lesson needs to be learned regardless of what you think of Covington High School.[quoted tweet]
@MollieOReilly
Every person now claiming those MAGA teens have been unfairly judged as racists is trying, consciously or not, to place Trump gear and MAGA hats in a neutral category. You don't let your kid wear a MAGA hat and then act offended when they get taken for a racist.
Bargaining[quoted tweet]Bargaining
@JessicaCoblentz
With all due respect to @JamesMartinSJ, racism and toxic masculinity are not about what is "inside the hearts of students"--or anyone. Racism and toxic masculinity are *NOT* about intentions. These are cultural and structural realities that often shape our actions unconsciously …[quoted tweet]
@Alyssa_Milano Let's not forget--this entire event happened because a group of boys went on a school-sanctioned trip to protest against a woman's right to her own body and reproductive healthcare. It is not debatable that bigotry was at play from the start.
This is just a variation (and barely a variation, at that) of the well-known process by which someone possessed of a false but attractive notion, like a beloved conspiracy theory, will not abandon that notion if the proofs he relies upon are shown to be false. He'll just search for new proofs that can prop up his cherished idea. The evidence may shift and mutate, old evidence debunked and discarded, new evidence discovered or simply invented, but that wonderful CONCLUSION remains eternal and unchanging. People are extremely egotistical when it comes to ideas. Especially very stupid people, who have so few ideas, and therefore each idea is especially valuable to them. Once they have a stupid ego-flattering, worldview-confirming idea stuck in their stupid heads, they will do all sorts of stupid things to protect it. Stuff like organizing a coup against the president and then lying to the Inspector General, or bankrupting their magazine and going to work for leftwing Franco-Iranian billionaire Pierre Omidyar.
What every single one of these "bargains" has in common is it pivots the discussion away from the original (false) allegation that sparked the internet mob. PLEASE LET'S AGREE THEY ARE BAD. But if it's not about the *original* claim, it's bargaining.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: arminius256 at February 14, 2019 02:54 PM (382aI)
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 14, 2019 02:55 PM (43+nw)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 02:55 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 14, 2019 02:55 PM (43+nw)
He's got four teeth and a drum.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 02:56 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at February 14, 2019 02:56 PM (1RXGK)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 02:56 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 02:56 PM (NFEMn)
yes.
>>>2 Nathan Phillips? Good luck getting any blood from that turnip.
Not the point. They want him to either confess his lies or lie to a court under oath and expose himself to perjury charges.
Also, they will demonstrate what an untrustworthy guy he is, which hurts the media's claims that they did not have actual malice in pushing his lies.
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 02:57 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 02:57 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 02:57 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 02:57 PM (zwhEe)
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2019 02:58 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 02:58 PM (NFEMn)
Actual nbc news headline:
"You may be disappointed by the meuller report."
They are scrambling to get in front of the fact that meuller doesn't have jack.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 14, 2019 02:56 PM
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 14, 2019 02:58 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 02:58 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 14, 2019 02:59 PM (sLicW)
>>"You may be disappointed by the meuller report."
No, really? Shocking.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 02:59 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 02:59 PM (PbpT7)
HBO does business in Kentucky. And there are supposedly state felony laws against smearing kids in public. Exactly like the pervert Maher is so proud of.
Let's get that "public satire" mask ripped off RIGHT NOW.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 02:59 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: torabora at February 14, 2019 02:59 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 02:59 PM (zwhEe)
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 14, 2019 02:59 PM (UAZp8)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (34w2E)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (BXMxN)
In all the old familiar places..."
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (n1b3L)
I'm quite surprised they aren't either suing the diocese or demanding a resignation. This is what lawyers dream about.
Posted by: trev006 at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (Prldh)
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (BJlbN)
Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (sGtp+)
There is a time for motherfucking these motherfuckers, and that time is now.
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 02:57 PM (zwhEe)
IT'S THE TOM LEYKUS SHOW!!!!!!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (sy5kK)
You can sue him all day long but you won't get squat, because he has nothing. I doubt the Judge will even force him to publicly apologize if they win against him.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (JUOKG)
Maybe Bezo will wake up?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:01 PM (OKeCc)
Perhaps Trump can invite Sandmann and Phillips to the White House for a Peace Pipe Summit.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 14, 2019 03:01 PM (KeAJH)
Journalism, how does it work?
Posted by: clutch cargo at February 14, 2019 03:01 PM (sLicW)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 03:01 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Mr Wu at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: Nathan Flips burgers to pay the judgement at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (43+nw)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (NWiLs)
Jeff Bezos
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (BXMxN)
As the left did to the christian bakery, the process is the punishment.
People need to know that they won't get away with this sort of thing without a long fight.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (34w2E)
The Navajo Shit Talker is going to wish he'd never been born.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (heaSb)
Being staked on an anthill would be payment enough.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (KfVRF)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: literally serious at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (3Q2mj)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (KeAJH)
Maybe Bezo will wake up?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (bim/x)
HAHA.
Bezos nose is buried in 49 year old Latino snatch.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2019 03:03 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: literally serious at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (3Q2mj)
this is the set up to the punchline, correct?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 03:03 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: literally serious at February 14, 2019 03:03 PM (3Q2mj)
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 03:03 PM (xxAFD)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 14, 2019 03:03 PM (KeAJH)
man, if you're having a visceral reaction to seeing a kid's FACE, that says a lot more about you than anything else.
Twitter, the Open-Air Sanitarium
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (RKQ/v)
Wasn't that a Steve Miller Band song?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (KeAJH)
It's what the emancipated Indians got.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (NWiLs)
(Sniff.) That hurts worse than the time the Paolo didn't wait for me before banging my wife like a screen door in a hurricane. (Sniffffffff.)
Posted by: Bill "Hooooooooont" Kristol at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (RD7QR)
Sue Chief Four Teeth, get the judgement and sit on it. Let the deep pocket others pay expenses. Chief Four Teeth set out to destroy kids lives.
Kids. Fvck him and the rest.
Posted by: Newest Nic at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (jYje5)
Except for who was footing the bill for his travel, etc...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (n1b3L)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (AB9tT)
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (BXMxN)
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (zmIJL)
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That defense didn't work for Orange Man Bad and it won't work for these Nazi kids.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (+y/Ru)
He may be my new hero.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (PbpT7)
brother
not mother
Posted by: incesthan omar at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (BJlbN)
Posted by: Ladyl at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (TdMsT)
Well said, ace! I've noticed this phenomena in my own interactions with the world, but have never seen it written out so succinctly and well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 03:05 PM (GBteo)
What about the fraud's face banging the drums. Chief FraudFace shows evil ways.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:05 PM (OKeCc)
That's for the court to decide, not you.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:05 PM (heaSb)
Can you imagine? {{shudder}}
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:05 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2019 03:05 PM (OLCnA)
Perjury charges. Yeah, there's a joke.
People lie under oath on the witness stand every single day and in 30 years of litigation practice I've yet to see anyone be prosecute for it.
The only way that you'll wind up in jail for lying today is if you're a friend of Donald Trump and you had the poor judgment to speak to the FBI.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 14, 2019 03:05 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 14, 2019 02:55 PM (43+nw)
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They want information from him, not money. Although having a judgement against him will be handy if they are able to funnel him some money via a book deal or a GFM.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 03:05 PM (ffYR/)
Posted by: literally serious at February 14, 2019 03:02 PM (3Q2mj)
Rather frequently, I'll warrant.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (RD7QR)
Today's "tech" tycoons almost without exception show just about zero situational awareness or clue outside their narrow specialty.
In Bezos' case, a pronounced case of not needing to "wake up", thanks to his wealth. He can (and probably does) hurt himself all the time, but it doesn't matter. Question of scale.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (QDnY+)
At the Duke Lax Rape Hoax, the faculty doubled down and said that it didn't matter, it fit the "metanarrative."
Also, stupid stupid stupid leftists, google "North American Martyrs" for how indians treated catholic missionaries.
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (nRWPy)
Maybe it's time to reconsider whom you respect, no?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (heaSb)
What lesson?
Chief FraudFace DrumBanger can lie and intimidate, claiming untouchable status?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 02:58 PM (nRWPy)
_______
This was going to be my comment as well.
Posted by: ShainS -- Registered Hat Offender at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (DEPJ1)
Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (BXMxN)
@BreakingNLive
BREAKING NEWS: Sources close to President Trump now say the President won't sign funding bill, which would give him $1.3 billion for border barrier and avoid a second shutdown.
Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (BJlbN)
Also good!!!
It's weird how people think there are no rules on twitter. Yeah, if you tweet that you will compensate people for attacking kids, and openly call for them, their family, their school be destroyed, you should be prosecuted.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (W+vEI)
Seriously? 50 hours of a few minutes event? WTF were they looking for? Zapruder?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (n1b3L)
Posted by: Joe Mama
Take his last four teeth.
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (JHXFb)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (OKeCc)
Sue her! Sue like the wind!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (ptqGC)
But the kid stood there like a wall, and the indigenous peoples had no walls and it puts a give a hoot, don't pollute tear in my eye, and ok there were walls, but those tribes were like farmers or something and were also racist.
Posted by: Nathan Phillips at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Jeff Bezos at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (sy5kK)
I'm still pissed at McLellan, and I want followup on this:
"why I was wrong about it"
There's only one answer. BIAS. That's what makes you believe something that's stupid and implausible on its face.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (13CQC)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2019 03:05 PM (OLCnA)
[Reaches for popcorn] Make it so.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (RD7QR)
3m
BREAKING NEWS: McConnell says Trump will sign spending bill, but will also declare national emergency for wall funding - CNBC
Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: Dan Rather at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (nRWPy)
And sadly, they never suffered one little bit from their destructive idiocy and evil. Not one bit.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (KfVRF)
Seriously? 50 hours of a few minutes event? WTF were they looking for? Zapruder?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (n1b3L)
Maybe they'll find Jussie Smallett's assaultants
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (34w2E)
He may be my new hero.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 14, 2019 03:04 PM (fuK7c)
Same here. He's bashing them routinely on Twitter, a la The Donald, getting out his comments that would never be reported by the MSM.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (heaSb)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (KeAJH)
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (NLLmE)
***
This is a specialty in this day and age
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (JHXFb)
Posted by: Dan Rather at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (CDGwz)
That's a subset of the Greater Truth trope.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (Mouru)
And here we go.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (/tuJf)
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Henry: Then, Johnny. Was his latest treason your idea?
Eleanor: John has so few ideas; no, I can't bring myself to claim it.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 14, 2019 03:09 PM (Hx3Yn)
3m
BREAKING NEWS: McConnell says Trump will sign spending bill, but will also declare national emergency for wall funding - CNBC
Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam
Good.
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 03:09 PM (NLLmE)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:05 PM (heaSb)
In lawyerspeak, it's called a "fuck you letter."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 03:09 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (nRWPy)
There's truth, and ghetto truth.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:09 PM (heaSb)
-Respected Elder Nathan Philips
Posted by: as told to Miklos at February 14, 2019 03:09 PM (zCyNd)
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at February 14, 2019 03:09 PM (KeAJH)
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 14, 2019 03:09 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: USMC 8541 at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (xGZ+b)
>>BREAKING NEWS: McConnell says Trump will sign spending bill, but
will also declare national emergency for wall funding - CNBC
And here we go.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (/tuJf)
Shep's on the verge of a hissy fit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (ptqGC)
The Navajo Shit Talker is going to wish he'd never been born.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
As Ace said above, this is about proving malice and conspiracy to defame.
Depose Nathan Phillips, and regardless of his punishment, this will then be the basis for drilling the rest of the loathsome crowd of maggots that enjoyed piling on a bunch of teenagers waiting for a bus.
I really don't care what happens to Phillips, but he will be discredited.
The rest will be sued for libel, and I hope they are hurtin' buckaroos when the show is finally over.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (vcOmj)
here's some blame shifting, actual side-stepping
Nothing to see here at MSDNC who blared and supported every single far left position
Morning Panic: Joe Scarborough Blames Democrat 'Overreach' for Trump's Rising Poll Numbers
( CNSNews.com ) - "It's a heck of a turnaround," MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said at the start of "Morning Joe" on Thursday, as he cited President Donald Trump's rising poll numbers -- despite the government shutdown.
A Gallup poll conducted Feb. 1-10 shows Trump with 44 percent approval -- up from 37 percent in mid-January. "The latest increase in approval is mainly the result of political independents' improved opinions of Trump," Gallup noted.
Scarborough blamed Democrat "overreach" for boosting Trump, and he urged Democrats to be guided by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who "knows how to beat Donald Trump."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (/tuJf)
say the President won't sign funding bill, which would give him $1.3
billion for border barrier and avoid a second shutdown.
Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (BqBId)
If it's got all those restrictions in it that I've been reading about, then he shouldn't. And the Democrats have given him plenty of stuff to talk about to the voters.
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (xxAFD)
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (NLLmE)
Absolutely.
The irrumatio takes care of the "scold" stuff.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (KfVRF)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (OLCnA)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 03:09 PM (GBteo)
I can imagine, but it seemed to me to almost have a "whistling past the graveyard" cachet in it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (heaSb)
say the President won't sign funding bill, which would give him $1.3
billion for border barrier and avoid a second shutdown.
Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 14, 2019 03:06 PM (BqBId)
breitbart's warnings are pretty clear
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (OKeCc)
Apparently Alyssa Milano is very good friends with Jack Dorsey. Jack is the godfather to one of her children. Safe to say she will never be suspended by twitter. May be to her detriment in this case.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (W+vEI)
104 Breaking911 @Breaking911
3m
BREAKING NEWS: McConnell says Trump will sign spending bill, but will also declare national emergency for wall funding - CNBC
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Good.
i was hoping he would refuse to sign a 1300 page bill on general principle.
Posted by: Anachronda at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 14, 2019 02:55 PM (43+nw)
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Pardon if mentioned, but, more than likely, Phillips is a paid agitator and his employer probably has some deep pockets. Whether or not the employer can be held liable, I've no idea. However, be nice to find out who it is. Nothing like a little publicity to make people flinch.
Posted by: blake - used High Sierra Salesman at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (qC1Sy)
And the lefty lawsuit in 3...2...1. And the Hawaiian Judge in 20...19..18
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (heaSb)
Just posturing, I'm sure.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (GBteo)
And here we go.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (/tuJf)
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Interesting.
Posted by: WisRich at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (G0vdT)
It's not nice to tease...
(Plz be true, fingers crossed)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (n1b3L)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (nRWPy)
Pffft. No snow.
Posted by: Henry II at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (ptqGC)
Amazon also announced it will no longer expand in Seattle. HA HA HA HA HA.
NYC and Seattle both will lose tens of thousands of high paying jobs because of AOC types. Seattle has an outspoken communist on the city council who jas been fighting Amazon for years. Well ok hone, you win. Amazon is leaving and homeless are moving in. Good luck.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (gx7zD)
Posted by: Joe Mama
Take his last four teeth.
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 03:07 PM (NLLmE)
The drum's gotta be worth a few pennies
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:12 PM (OKeCc)
And here we go.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (/tuJf)
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This was baked in when he signed the last one. he knew they would not give him anywhere close to what he wanted, if anything at all.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 03:12 PM (ffYR/)
Posted by: blake - used High Sierra Salesman at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (qC1Sy)
His employer definitely doesn't offer a dental plan, I can tell you that much for sure.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 14, 2019 03:12 PM (GBteo)
Cherokee...I fVcking can't wait to watch Nathan heap rotten-chiclets get
lawfully ROASTED.
Posted by: USMC 8541 at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (xGZ+b)
So, I've been wondering: Is there such a thing as a "peace drum" and if so, is it really used for political protests?
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 03:12 PM (xxAFD)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:12 PM (gx7zD)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 14, 2019 03:12 PM (bcbK8)
Declaring nat'l emergency will not, I don't think, do anything about this outrageous disaster. Basically you're taking an already disastrous child-trafficking situation and turbo-charging it by making kids even more valuable, as props - as one observer put it, don't fret, illegal alien drug trafficker network big-wig in Lawrence, MA, all you need to do now is get a kid you can "sponsor". There is more to it, but the insanity just gets worse (e.g., the sponsorship scam is limited to *certain* sorts of criminals - not *all* serious felons would be allowed to use it - I don't think people have any idea how insane the situation ALREADY was on these matters).
Oh - and barrier construction is barred from several key areas of public land in the RGV, which are known high-use areas for cartel networks.
There's a small chance the bill will fail, saving Trump the humiliation of signing it.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:12 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 14, 2019 02:55 PM (43+nw)
Yeah, but he just lost forever his access to whatever gravy train was paying him.I
He.Is.Toxic. now.
Guess his daughter is going to have to take over for him.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 14, 2019 03:12 PM (uDcBt)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (nRWPy)
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Walking barefoot to Canossa in the snow.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (Hx3Yn)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (Kpl3J)
The unredacted video we saw here was 1 hour 40. Add in everyone else's cell phone video and you can get to 50 hours.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (fuK7c)
I'm pleased they've already taken one of Phillips most valued possessions. His stolen valor.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (9t0Zz)
And here we go.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:08 PM (/tuJf)
But it was reported just an hour ago there is restrictive language to not allow Trump to build the Wall in any type of design in the last 2 years.
WTF? It is in the law. Won't the SC strike any National Emergency specifically BECAUSE of this new law?
"If Trump wanted the Wall by declaring a NE, he should not have signed that specific bill" - Supreme Court future ruling.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (sy5kK)
I really don't care what happens to Phillips, but he will be discredited.
The rest will be sued for libel, and I hope they are hurtin' buckaroos when the show is finally over.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (vcOmj)
Yep. Deposing Phillips will just be getting the first pickle out of the jar. Then it's on the deep pocket defendants, who will have to weasel their way around Phillips's testimony.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (heaSb)
Posted by: Nathan Phillips at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (hjaPQ)
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But these right-wing conservative men are very turned on by the thought of seeing their wives or girlfriends with other men. These men, the Trump supporters and especially the "alt-right" types love to use the word "cuck" as a type of insult. But in reality I would estimate that a lot of them, maybe most, are into the cuckold fantasy themselves.
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Uh huh. So the Left thinks that getting a "scientist" to call you a cuck is somehow better than just calling you one themselves. Because they are cowards.
Posted by: ... at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (91m/e)
Posted by: blake - used High Sierra Salesman
Let it be... Soros. Please.
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (43+nw)
"Oh shut up, you old fart! It's our party now!"
-- Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Tlaib
Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (W+vEI)
dumb
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (OKeCc)
Cocaine Mitch just said PDT will sign the bill and then issue a National Emergency.
And I'm all out of popcorn.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Shep Smith at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (SkuXa)
John Roberts is explaining that the gubmint is "like a farm" with "a bunch of silos."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM (ptqGC)
Old John Roberts had a farm E-I-E-I-O.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (TAmPV)
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I'm gonna go with A.
Posted by: ... at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (91m/e)
To this day, they claim "the documents were fake, but we know it's true anyway", don't they?
FakeNews is nothing new. They're just more brazen, desperate, and obvious about it. Partly, it's because they know they have the new generation well-indoctrinated - they're EMBOLDENED by that. Partly, they've been driven mad by being denied their First Woman President, which they believed was a sure thing. Partly, it's because Trump has the balls to call them out, and intentionally steps on every nerve ending they have - he's awesome at getting The Beast to expose itself.
Posted by: Optimizer at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (hOOi9)
...
You really do have to wonder how that went.
Bill Kristol pleading with his one friend that knows a guy who knows Omidyar to get a message through that he's flexible on considering new policy positions. And other positions.
Or were the prices posted on a part of their website all along?
Posted by: TexasDan at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: TheQuietMan
Well, it will likely be a little bit longer than....
#twoweeks
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (vcOmj)
that is really going to leave a mark, and hopefully a depleted bank account.
I hope he takes them for all their worth and those kids never have to work a day in their life...
Posted by: SturmToddler at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (8D42x)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (KeAJH)
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 03:12 PM (xxAFD)
They came up with that to do away with the idea of the peace pipe, since the left doesn't like talking about Indians and tobacco. Tobacco is an evil from the white man and the Indians certainly couldn't have had anything to do with it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (KfVRF)
i was hoping he would refuse to sign a 1300 page bill on general principle.
Posted by: Anachronda
Actually I thought he was doing both. Refusing the bill AND declaring a SoE.
I'm just confused now.
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 03:15 PM (NLLmE)
Finally, from that ludicrous Salon article:
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But
these right-wing conservative men are very turned on by the thought of
seeing their wives or girlfriends with other men. These men, the Trump
supporters and especially the "alt-right" types love to use the word
"cuck" as a type of insult. But in reality I would estimate that a lot
of them, maybe most, are into the cuckold fantasy themselves.
That Salon article is EVERYTHING.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:15 PM (ptqGC)
"You may be disappointed by the meuller report."
They are scrambling to get in front of the fact that meuller doesn't have jack.
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As another commenter said this morning, are we supposed to be disappointed that the president is not a Russian spy?
Fuck these people.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 14, 2019 03:15 PM (EDU7t)
This way there's no shutdown that the media and Dems can use, Trump gets his WALL....and the useless GOP can go to their open borders CoC overlords and say, "We did all we could...."
In other words....EVERYBODY gets something.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 03:15 PM (NFEMn)
I literally just listened to Mitch McConnell on the Senate floor say he just talked to Trump and he is going to declare a National Emergency after signing the bill.
That seems pretty real to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:15 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Rep. Cortez at February 14, 2019 03:15 PM (qEujL)
Yo no comprende.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:16 PM (gx7zD)
What a tool.
Posted by: JackStraw
What he does is buggery and fellatio. That's what he does.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2019 03:16 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at February 14, 2019 03:17 PM (SkuXa)
Hey Alisa Milano, this is women's reproductive healthcare?? I hope not a one of my sons ever marries a ghoul like you, you are repulsive.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at February 14, 2019 03:17 PM (f8dwL)
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 14, 2019 03:17 PM (JoUsr)
What a tool.
Posted by: JackStraw
Shemp does drama. And glory holes.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:17 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 03:17 PM (JHXFb)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 03:17 PM (n1b3L)
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 02:58 PM (nRWPy)
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And then he has the nerve to say it was his "hope and EXPECTATION" that the inquiry would prove the kids' innocence.
If you EXPECTED to find that the kids were not nasty brats, why did you IMMEDIATELY condemn them along with the mob?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 03:17 PM (Rxduq)
Posted by: Ralph(COONMAN0Northam at February 14, 2019 03:17 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: rammajamma at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (AjNMO)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (Rarvo)
Of course it used to mean you (a citizen) were responsible for an immigrant, or refugee, meaning they would not become a public charge. Now, it means somewhere here ILLEGALLY can be a "sponsor" of OTHER illegals - and they're ALL shielded from deportation.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (QDnY+)
>>"You may be disappointed by the meuller report."
No, really? Shocking.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 02:59 PM (/tuJf)
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I do find it shocking............that nbc actually admits there's no there there.
Posted by: blake - used High Sierra Salesman at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (qC1Sy)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:11 PM
No cows, buddy. I'm warning you.
AOC
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (zmIJL)
Posted by: Ripley at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (MxEKc)
What a tool.
Posted by: JackStraw
What he does is buggery and fellatio. That's what he does.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at February 14, 2019 03:16 PM (vcOmj)
So how about irrumatio?
Posted by: Jussie "Juicy" Smollett at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: literally serious at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (3Q2mj)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (jxbfJ)
Yo no comprende.
It's not that complicated.
$1.4 billion
Trump wants $5.7 billion.
Take the $1.4 billion from Congress and get the delta from other sources under the National Emergency.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (/tuJf)
Yet again they get gay sex mixed up with straight sex. Most mammals and birds aren't even ok with that, dumbass. Women aren't and we have LESS testosterone (well, some do). I know my initial reaction would be who to kill first, I guess whoever was closest.
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (gx7zD)
If you EXPECTED to find that the kids were not nasty brats, why did you IMMEDIATELY condemn them along with the mob?
There's some confusion here. the quoted statement is from the school itself, which supported the boys, not the Evil POS Bishop, who should be defrocked, frankly.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (Rarvo)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (KeAJH)
Amazon is actually lightly staffed, basically a glorified 3PL Monopoly.
FIFY
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (sy5kK)
She is in a nice purple outfit today.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (8iiMU)
I can't even get expanded catch and release when I go fishing.
Great negotiations GOP.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (r+sAi)
I can see this guy in a white suit and sunglasses sitting in an overstuffed chair at the end of a long hallway lined with red velvet drapes and a black and white floor.
A blonde midget wearing a loincloth and a bow tie comes out of the floor, dancing and beating a drum. After a moment, he spontaneously combusts. We see the flames reflected in the sunglasses of the seated man as we hear the screams of agony. As the flames die, he casually leans over and lights a cigar on the trembling, whimpering embers.
A beautiful woman is suddenly next to him with a sequined outfit and a giant, plumed feathered hat. She uncorks a crystal decanter, pours, and hands him a glass. The man takes a file folder and tosses it on the glowing pile of ashes, the flames are momentarily stoked.
Suddenly, two men in white overalls slowly wheel a dilapidated box down the hall towards the man in white as the wheels squeak and rattle as we hear muffled knocks. As they near the man in the chair, the pounding becomes more frantic. the men rotate the box as if to show the man all sides. It is now we can see stenciled on one side "Butterball Powerbottom".
Fade to black.
Posted by: clutch cargo at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (sLicW)
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I'm gonna go with A.
Posted by: ... at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (91m/e)
Wrong.
It's (C) Somebody told them what they wanted t o hear, so they passed it on.
Whether they "knew they were lying" or not is irrelevant. They DON'T CARE if it's really true or not. To THEM, reality BECOMES whatever they report.
What they KNOW is that it violates any sense of journalistic standards. But that's not even worth talking about - they DON'T CARE. Not ONE BIT.
Posted by: Optimizer at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (hOOi9)
This doesn't nail Trump down into signing it.
He may find out what's in it, then not.
thehill.com
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 14, 2019 03:20 PM (EDU7t)
****
I know this is a joke but you'd be surprised how many "shamans " are exactly this dumb and shiftless
Posted by: Total Control Racist at February 14, 2019 03:20 PM (JHXFb)
Posted by: rammajamma at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (AjNMO)
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Correct. This isn't even a close call.
"I won't sign this shit, but you're free to send me something I will sign. Oh, and national emergency, bitches."
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 14, 2019 03:20 PM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at February 14, 2019 03:20 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:20 PM (gx7zD)
I can't even get expanded catch and release when I go fishing.
Great negotiations GOP.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (r+sAi)
yes, if we are to believe all of the Breitbart pieces, why would Trump sign this?
It is in full support of more illegals
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:20 PM (OKeCc)
Don't care about vacuuming money from Dances with Maytags, I just want him thoroughly discredited and humiliated.
That'll be just fine.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 14, 2019 03:20 PM (S/hVx)
https://bit.ly/2SRK5au
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 03:21 PM (+y/Ru)
$1.4 billion
Trump wants $5.7 billion.
Take the $1.4 billion from Congress and get the delta from other sources under the National Emergency.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (/tuJf)
I think it's a great idea. Trump has been the ONLY party who has shown a willingness to compromise.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 03:21 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (jxbfJ)
They were worse, imho. The bishop has a SACRED duty to his flock, he carries a crozier to remind them and himself of his pastoral responsibility and he literally threw those kids to the wolves, with glee and at the first hint of the wolves wanting them. He should be flogged.
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:21 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (43+nw)
Oh yes. That would be delicious.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:21 PM (heaSb)
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You'd think it would've behooved them to actually, ya know, determine what happened before flapping their virtue signals.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 14, 2019 03:21 PM (JoUsr)
I have the same feeling about Ama Navarro who is also on Lin Wood's defamation list. At least Alyssa Milano was hot in Embrace of the VAmpire. Navarro was always a pig.
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (OD2ni)
But the delta are protected as an endangered specie...
oh. Never mind.
Posted by: Bandersnatch Litella at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (fuK7c)
$1.4 billion
Trump wants $5.7 billion.
Take the $1.4 billion from Congress and get the delta from other sources under the National Emergency.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (/tuJf)
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This, although doesn't he already have the authority he needs to close off drug smuggling routes?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (ffYR/)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 14, 2019 03:14 PM (KfVRF)
Can't be, we all know the Hekawi tribe invented the peace pipe.
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (xxAFD)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (gx7zD)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (r+sAi)
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That is what they wanted. Who says the GOPe is on our side?
Posted by: William Eaton at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (MuTTO)
https://bit.ly/2SRK5au
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 03:21 PM (+y/Ru)
Cuomo is a loathsome POS, but he wields power in NY and AOC's day's are numbered. She'll be primaried.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:15 PM (/tuJf)
Supposedly the CR contains specific language that defines how money will be spent on the wall, including what kind of barriers, etc.
Obviously to set up a legal confrontation with President Trump if he declares a National Emergency.
The scheming cocksuckers want to show that he is subverting the will of Congress.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (wYseH)
Seriously I don't get it. Sign the bill or declare NE. But doing both?????
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (gx7zD)
I can see signing the bill, unless the bill limits actions that prevents PDT from building the wall. Perhaps he is going with the theory that declaring a national emergency negates any statutory limitations that are in this shitty deal.
In any event, he needs to steamroll getting this wall built, Hawaiian judge court decisions be damned to hell.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (8iiMU)
We've all known this was going to collapse at some point. NBC and the rest are trying to get out ahead of Mueller so they can salvage a shred of credibility.
It won't work on us but they have a whole audience of dopes to worry about.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:23 PM (/tuJf)
https://bit.ly/2SRK5au
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 03:21 PM (+y/Ru)
Beautiful. She may not last long enough to be primaried. At this rate, she's going to be on Leon Trotsky retirement plan.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:23 PM (heaSb)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 03:23 PM (n1b3L)
She is in a nice purple outfit today.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (8iiMU)
3:00 to 4:00 is really the "Dark Hour" on Fox. BOTH FoxNews and FBN are both Leftist crap.
But Claman at least behaves herself most of the time, and, yes, has two "redeeming qualities".
Posted by: Optimizer at February 14, 2019 03:23 PM (hOOi9)
$1.4 billion
Trump wants $5.7 billion.
Take the $1.4 billion from Congress and get the delta from other sources under the National Emergency.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:18 PM (/tuJf)
this is understood, yes
but if what we are reading is true, what the dems snuck into the bill, then he shouldn't sign it
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:23 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 03:23 PM (yTfbH)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at February 14, 2019 03:23 PM (f8dwL)
Better wear a raincoat when all them progressive heads explode
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 14, 2019 03:23 PM (bim/x)
Bless your heart, Sparkles.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:23 PM (ptqGC)
"Notwithstanding any other provision of law" is usually a key element in laws governing emergency activities, and use of funds.
If the NE declaration means Trump can *also* void the various (not just 224) disastrous provisions of the approps package, then sign/NE makes sense.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:24 PM (QDnY+)
Yep. But at least they DID back down. I'd bet that you'd never get a Jesuit or nearly any type of Sister to admit they were wrong, no matter what.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 03:24 PM (Rarvo)
Posted by: Skip at February 14, 2019 03:24 PM (/rm4P)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:24 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 14, 2019 03:24 PM (H8QX8)
Within the $114,147,000 increase above the fiscal year 2018 funding level for the Transportation and Removal Program, ICE is directed to provide for the transportation of migrants to such shelters based on where collaborating organizations have open sheltering capacity, including during surge periods. ICE shall immediately notify the Committees in advance of any decision to deny such transportation.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:24 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (r+sAi)
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That is what they wanted. Who says the GOPe is on our side?
Posted by: William Eaton at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (MuTTO)
They're NOT on our side, but does it really matter? They didn't want Trump to be elected, but he still won.
I'm fully convinced that they are playing a game. While not going "all-in" on Trump, the GOP get's pretty much everything they want anyway.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (NFEMn)
I saw that. Let them fight and pray for casulaties.
But holy shit, donkey chompers actually believes that foregoing a tax abatement for a company means the government has tangible money that it can be used on other things. We are doomed.
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: WOPR at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (J70i0)
hate the democrats
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (n1b3L)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (Rarvo)
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Thanks for the correction!
(Coming from the bishop, as I imagined it did, that word "expectation" really grated.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (Rxduq)
GOP negotiators offer $1000 OVER msrp when they buy a new car. Fuck these people.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (gx7zD)
I think Todd was the negotiator.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (ptqGC)
Actual nbc news headline:
"You may be disappointed by the meuller report."
They are scrambling to get in front of the fact that meuller doesn't have jack.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 14, 2019 02:56 PM
I think that is why they are actually pushing McCabe's "your damn right I ordered the Code Red" book now. When the disappointed Lefty mob turns about to rend someone for not having their Orange man Bad with Russian Dressing they can claim innocence, that they were all fooled by the evil plots of McCabe, it is all his fault, and they are blameless victims.
...
Oh, hey - are those some tax returns?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Twitter - The Electronic Valu-Rite at The Outrage Outlet and Reduce Your IQ and Soul at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (hLRSq)
Like a boss.
Get ready to learn all about federal budgeting and the statutory authority that comes with "reprogramming" and "unobligated balances". By the way, nobody in Washington is better than Mulvaney with this stuff. Nobody
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (VpIIl)
Seriously I don't get it. Sign the bill or declare NE. But doing both?????
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM
I'd sequence it as declare the NE. Wait for the shit to hit the fan. Hold the threat of another shutdown over their heads.
Send the original bill back to be examined with a fine tooth comb. You know damn well there's a poison pill in it somewhere.
Posted by: Newest Nic at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (jYje5)
Section 224(a) would make it so ICE cannot detain or remove anyone who has effectively any kind of relationship (even just as a "potential sponsor") with any unaccompanied minor:
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 14, 2019 03:24 PM (Rarvo)
Yeah, but a bishop is really just a CFO. They ARE all about the money. Jesuits less so and nuns are mostly dumb (yeah, I'm going to hell).
Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (nRWPy)
The scheming cocksuckers want to show that he is subverting the will of Congress.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (wYseH)
Mmm hmmmm
Posted by: John Roberts at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (gx7zD)
Big-boobed Shep!-in-training Liz Claman
How much longer is Liz going to be in training?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (TAmPV)
She is pretty close to journeyrack status right now.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (8iiMU)
Cherokee...I fVcking can't wait to watch Nathan heap rotten-chiclets get
lawfully ROASTED.
Posted by: USMC 8541 at February 14, 2019 03:10 PM (xGZ+b)
So, I've been wondering: Is there such a thing as a "peace drum" and if so, is it really used for political protests?
I'm not a historian...but I never heard of dedicated "peace drum" before this incident.
the intent of the drumming is what gives the context; as in beat the "drums of war"
Posted by: USMC 8541 at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (xGZ+b)
but if what we are reading is true, what the dems snuck into the bill, then he shouldn't sign it
He's between a rock and a hard place on this. He's already done the longest shutdown in history. It's pretty tough to play that card twice in row. Politically at least.
Even if he shuts it down Nancy and the rest are not going to give him a bill that we like. They have leverage as well.
Not my favorite bill but take what you can get and then go get the damn wall built.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (/tuJf)
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It provides for one big moose...out front.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (JoUsr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (xxAFD)
Seriously I don't get it. Sign the bill or declare NE. But doing both?????
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (gx7zD)
I can see signing the bill, unless the bill limits actions that prevents PDT from building the wall. Perhaps he is going with the theory that declaring a national emergency negates any statutory limitations that are in this shitty deal.
In any event, he needs to steamroll getting this wall built, Hawaiian judge court decisions be damned to hell.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (8iiMU)
From what I'm hearing HERE, the paltry sum it provides for The Wall is a sham, PLUS it provides money to actually AID the invasion.
But if it simple gave too little money, yes, DO BOTH. Take the $1B (it's better than nothing) but still declare the emergency because the bill comes nowhere addressing that emergency.
Posted by: Optimizer at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (hOOi9)
Obviously to set up a legal confrontation with President Trump if he declares a National Emergency.
The scheming cocksuckers want to show that he is subverting the will of Congress.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (wYseH)
Exactly why PDT can't sign it if he wants a wall.
Signing it just gives the America Haters ammo for the SC.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (sy5kK)
Package bars barrier work in five key public land border zones of TX (known cartel areas), as well as gives local authorities in several Dem jurisdictions veto authority (WTF??).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (QDnY+)
The evidence may shift and mutate, old evidence debunked and discarded, new evidence discovered or simply invented, but that wonderful CONCLUSION remains eternal and unchanging.
People are extremely egotistical when it comes to ideas. Especially very stupid people, who have so few ideas, and therefore each idea is especially valuable to them.
Once they have a stupid ego-flattering, worldview-confirming idea stuck in their stupid heads, they will do all sorts of stupid things to protect it.
Well said. That's what "structural" really means; that one's concepts are so structured that the interpretation is built-in automatically. They're like people who look at dirt on the window and think they're seeing something outside.
They really can no longer help it. Their thinking is tightly constrained in a little mental circle, in which EVERYTHING has to be seen in terms of "oppression", by definition. Sometimes some major shock can break them out of it. But usually, the model just constricts further and further.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (VaN/j)
Posted by: Ever at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (1Zh0U)
a way to get them in no matter what
Why can't Mexico do this? Why do we have to pay for it. Why do we have to let in the trash. sorry Don't care about illegals stuck in the desert.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (OKeCc)
Obviously to set up a legal confrontation with President Trump if he declares a National Emergency.
The scheming cocksuckers want to show that he is subverting the will of Congress.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (wYseH)
So he signs the bill to avoid the shutdown....then his Emergency Declaration supersedes the language in the bill?
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (ptqGC)"
It needs a punch in the vagina. The guys here were throwing shit at the TV. We had to move to FBN
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (VpIIl)
There is a time for motherfucking these motherfuckers, and that time is now.
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 03:00 PM (PbpT7)
Time for the Blonde Scarecrow to get a two inch hate fuck.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (y7DUB)
The shutdown will be on the Dems.
Posted by: WisRich at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (G0vdT)
what a disgrace
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (OKeCc)
Here's a gem from the spending bill. Section 224 (a) says that ICE may
not remove any sponsor or *potential sponsor* or *member of a household*
of a UAC. That's de facto sanctuary for anyone near a UAC.
Ridiculous. 30-40% of MS-13 arrests have been UACs.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:26 PM (OKeCc)
That is an immediate veto in my book.Fuck those people.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, with his phone and veto pen at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (8iiMU)
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It provides for one big moose...out front.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (JoUsr)
The shittier elements in it are horrendous, wall funding or not.
Fuck it. Deputize as many national guardsmen as possible and ramp up the arrest and repatriation of as many illegal aliens as possible. Period.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Shemp Smith at February 14, 2019 03:29 PM (n2qRY)
Posted by: CA Token at February 14, 2019 03:29 PM (uLlCC)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (QDnY+)
That sounds blatantly unconstitutional.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 03:29 PM (yTfbH)
Posted by: Chris M at February 14, 2019 03:29 PM (eAZVt)
Or better yet, take Cruz's advice and use El Chapo's funds to build it.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 03:29 PM (BqXKV)
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 14, 2019 03:30 PM (2LelM)
How much longer is Liz going to be in training?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 14, 2019 03:25 PM (TAmPV)
Hey, they are supposed to be running train on ME!
Posted by: Sandy from the Hood at February 14, 2019 03:30 PM (sy5kK)
Go long on popcorn.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 14, 2019 03:30 PM (Z4rgH)
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That is only specific to that particular bill. Every bill can have provisions that dictates how monies are spent and what is allowed.
FYI there is money floating around already that has no such restrictions. The courts have already backed up the Executive Branch that money already allocated by Congress can be moved around within the Executive Branch to which it was allocated.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 03:30 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Liberty at February 14, 2019 03:30 PM (aMifl)
Posted by: Skip at February 14, 2019 03:30 PM (/rm4P)
Covington's across the river from Cincinnati; he can "pray the steps" to Holy Cross Immaculata on his knees. All 100 steps from the river side up Mt. Adams.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 14, 2019 03:30 PM (x2bpk)
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 14, 2019 03:31 PM (OUOAS)
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 03:31 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 03:32 PM (BqXKV)
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 03:32 PM (PbpT7)
So that's where Jon Stewart's clown nose went. I hadn't seen it in a while.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 14, 2019 03:33 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:33 PM (/tuJf)
unless this bill says differently
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 03:33 PM (PbpT7)
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We are so screwed.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 14, 2019 03:33 PM (Rxduq)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (wYseH)
they've pretty much been saying they will do this
so, yep
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:33 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (VpIIl)
It's also hard to see that Cortez, by himself, didn't save more indigenous lives than all later Catholic could have possibly killed. It's sometimes argued he couldn't have won without the help of neighboring Indians. And that's plausible. But those who argue that never seem to wonder WHY the Aztecs' neighbors were so eager to help the Spanish. A real puzzler, that.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (VaN/j)
https://bit.ly/2SRK5au
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 14, 2019 03:21 PM (+y/Ru)
Hey, you guys remember back when you indoctrinated those SJWs? Thought it would be hilarious to have those people out there raising hell while you cynically made graft off it?
You didn't stop to consider what would happen if they actually ended up believing that stuff, did you? That you might actually be creating a cadre that would see *you* as also being part of the problem? You didn't? Aw man, sucks to be you because they live in *your* fashionable neighborhood, not my deplorable one.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Twitter - The Electronic Valu-Rite at The Outrage Outlet and Reduce Your IQ and Soul at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (NFEMn)
Thus the legal confrontation. And if Trump wants to play hardball he will insist upon a full court, which would require RBG's presence. That's a calculated risk, but if she is truly incapacitated it will be a fascinating thing,,,
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (wYseH)
Most of what I've seen isn't new. Most folks just don't know about them...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (n1b3L)
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I guess it's time to welcome our new Guatamalan, Hoduran, El Salvadoran and Mexican overlords....
Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (vg8iE)
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That's "The Nightman Cometh."
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 14, 2019 03:31 PM (OUOAS)
Ahhh-AHHH-ahhh!
Posted by: Dayman at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (BqXKV)
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 03:35 PM (NFEMn)
And then we will defeat you at the polls.
Posted by: Democrat Lawmakers at February 14, 2019 03:35 PM (sy5kK)
There are lots of other disasters in the package.
I'm confident the WH has thoroughly researched/game-planned a NE declaration, in terms of what they need to get done. As I said above, if NE does not provide "notwithstanding" waiver authority on many of the appropriations items, it's a disaster.
Note: actual, urgent, well known, long-standing issues like fixing the asylum scam, and the Flores consent decree, and greatly increasing resources for internal enforcement ..... are not even on the table, and as far as I've been able to find out, never were.
Two years into Trump's term, and the battlefield is now defined mostly by the extreme open borders/lawlessness powers.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:35 PM (QDnY+)
The 2019 DHS spending bill provides $1.4 billion for the border wall - and also encourages migrants by promising aid, busses and legal advice/shields, plus favorable future media coverage and Dem cheerleading. Overall, GOP gains on $ and Dems gain on policies
Exactly.
We are screwed.
Trump cannot sign this.
Policy trumps the chump change.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:36 PM (OKeCc)
She is not exactly lighting the fires.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:36 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Sandy from the Hood at February 14, 2019 03:30 PM (sy5kK)
Will that be High Speed Rail?
Posted by: Eeyore at February 14, 2019 03:36 PM (VaN/j)
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 14, 2019 03:36 PM (JoUsr)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 03:36 PM (BqXKV)
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 03:33 PM (PbpT7)
According to Rush Limbaugh it does.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 14, 2019 03:36 PM (wYseH)
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But these right-wing conservative men are very turned on by the thought of seeing their wives or girlfriends with other men. These men, the Trump supporters and especially the "alt-right" types love to use the word "cuck" as a type of insult. But in reality I would estimate that a lot of them, maybe most, are into the cuckold fantasy themselves.
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Uh huh. So the Left thinks that getting a "scientist" to call you a cuck is somehow better than just calling you one themselves. Because they are cowards.
Posted by: ... at February 14, 2019 03:13 PM (91m/e)
-xx
In psych parlance, that's "projection."
Posted by: Flyover at February 14, 2019 03:36 PM (B5K06)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 03:36 PM (ffYR/)
Not to mention the Referees will be more biased than a championship game in New Orleans.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:36 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (wYseH)
It's pretty much a given she's truly incapacitated right now. The question is: will she ever recover?
Posted by: I like cookies at February 14, 2019 03:37 PM (xxAFD)
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 14, 2019 03:37 PM (jUVms)
Agreed. YOURS!
Your Honor, we rest our case.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 14, 2019 03:38 PM (6eEQ+)
Kind of sounds like he is putting the ball in her court over a shutdown.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:38 PM (/tuJf)
The 2019 border security bill gives Trump & GOP an apparent win on the border wall $ -- but it also chokes ICE enforcement with a wide variety of curbs, rules and exemptions while it also encourages offers of migration with offers of aid and lawyers.
money for lawyers
campaign funding for the Democrats
round and round we go
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:38 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: CA Token at February 14, 2019 03:29 PM (uLlCC)
Actually, I looked up his personal GFM a couple of weeks ago, and it had $500 in contributions (out of a goal of $50k!), and it had already been up for a few weeks.
But he has control, with his daughter, of a separate GFM with Indian something something in its name; it had around $15k in donations. They also have control of a charity (may be the same as the 2nd GFM name) that hasn't filed proper forms with the IRS in years.
Scammers gonna scam.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 14, 2019 03:38 PM (Z4rgH)
A few pundits mentioned this. Thee declaration will be tied up in courts until after Trump's second term. Shut it down.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 03:38 PM (BqXKV)
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 03:33 PM (PbpT7)"
You can't retroactively put restrictions on monies that have already been allocated. There is some mischief you can attempt. But you can't change the statutory or Constitutional authority. There is too much precedent for things like reprograming within Executive Branch Departments and process around unobligated balances. Some f it is circumstantial (e.g. amounts, specific bill provisions) but some are not and at best simply require a notification to Congress.
Like I said before, Mulvaney is the Jedi Master at this stuff in Washington.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 03:38 PM (VpIIl)
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Ok, then. He's admitting it's an emergency at the border. Now Trump needs to veto this POS bill and declare the emergency, with or without the illegals' giveaways and loaded bombs in it.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 14, 2019 03:38 PM (JoUsr)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 14, 2019 03:38 PM (OLCnA)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:39 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:39 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:27 PM (QDnY+)
So the Democrats are pro-cartel. Nice to know. Can't say I'm surprised, though.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:39 PM (heaSb)
And nothing unconstitutional about Congress piling whatever restrictions it wants on appropriated $$$. Sort of their job, in fact.
224 is new, and there are other disasters that qualify as new (reducing detention capacity, *reducing* it, probably has never happened - and that's one of the insane provisions).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:39 PM (QDnY+)
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Let me give you a quick recap:
*gurgle* *gurgle* *drool* *drool* "President Bush"
Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 14, 2019 03:40 PM (vg8iE)
border. Now Trump needs to veto this POS bill and declare the
emergency, with or without the illegals' giveaways and loaded bombs in
it.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 14, 2019 03:38 PM (JoUsr)
This.
What the hell is that sound Nancy is making with her teeth? Seriously.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:40 PM (ptqGC)
what a disgrace
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Thank you for posting the clearly shown provisions that prove why this pc of crap "budget for illegals" should be lit on fire not signed.
I'm disgusted that it is even being considered as worthy of being agreed to and signed.
Posted by: slowdown at February 14, 2019 03:40 PM (E+yET)
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 14, 2019 03:40 PM (UAZp8)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:39 PM (heaSb)
If your goal was to kill all the undesirables, wouldn't you side with murderous thugs, too?
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 03:40 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: vrf at February 14, 2019 03:41 PM (4wIc1)
*deletes*
*hides*
Posted by: American citizens who foolishly still believe in the Rule of Law at February 14, 2019 03:41 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 14, 2019 03:41 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (fuK7c)
"Happy Valentine's Day! All we need is love and chocolate. heheheheheh"
*types**deletes*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (ptqGC)
So he signs the bill to avoid the shutdown....then his Emergency Declaration supersedes the language in the bill?
Posted by: JoeF. at February 14, 2019 03:28 PM (NFEMn
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National emergencies are of limited duration, though, right? So, when the emergency is up, does the law come springing back to life?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (13CQC)
What branch is he in?, I forgot.
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (r+sAi)
The majority of people want border security. Veto this thing and either tell them to try again or shut it down.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (BqXKV)
Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (NLLmE)
Democrats don't care. More votes versus death and rape of women and children.
daily caller
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (OKeCc)
When will this stupid has-been slut ever shut up?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (heaSb)
Posted by: antisocialist at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (2shuf)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (OKeCc)
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Well, guess that's that.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (JoUsr)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (yTfbH)
Those were her "fertile" days.
Posted by: American citizens who foolishly still believe in the Rule of Law at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Skip at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (/rm4P)
"go team! go! go! ... move! now that's the kind of fighting spirit ... they even have their own grave diggers unit!"
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (Pg+x7)
what will you do with the money you saved?
Posted by: Cal Worthington and his dog Spot at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (cxCsn)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:19 PM (r+sAi)
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That is what they wanted. Who says the GOPe is on our side?
Posted by: William Eaton at February 14, 2019 03:22 PM (MuTTO)
They're NOT on our side, but does it really matter? They didn't want Trump to be elected, but he still won.
I'm fully convinced that they are playing a game. While not going "all-in" on Trump, the GOP get's pretty much everything they want anyway.
Exactly. I've been thinking that one of the worst things to happen to the GOP was the Koch bros. They dragged the party in a "libertarian" direction, while pushing open borders and one-sided trade that devastated communities across the U.S. with cheap illegal labor and deindustrialization. There is nothing "conservative" about their policies, and yet they and their elitist allies claim to hold the mantle of "True Conservatism."
Posted by: Catoi at February 14, 2019 03:44 PM (fIV4c)
appropriated funds - if so, then there wouldn't be 12 separate approps
bills, or line items, at all. There are limits."
Nobody said "unlimited". There are limits and percentages within each department, some base on allocation type.
Congress can indeed place restrictions, and do, even on the time you have to spend it.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 03:44 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: What the Everloving Hell at February 14, 2019 03:44 PM (al2Cf)
Democrats don't care. More votes versus death and rape of women and children.
daily caller
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (OKeCc)
"More kids will be smuggled, more kids will be molested, more kids will die" - sounds like the Democrats have their platform for 2020.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:44 PM (heaSb)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:44 PM (r+sAi)
The "deference" (stupid term and concept) of the judiciary in national security matters - the last area in which the judiciary has not usurped or gone completely lawless* - will then be reduced to, maybe, military orders.
* Hamdan v. Bush, Kennedy arrogated the treaty power to himself, then brazenly argued that up = down when it came to clear diplomatic history and clear Geneva language
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:45 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Bob Menendez at February 14, 2019 03:45 PM (vg8iE)
How long does this CR (is it even a CR?) shit sandwich last for?
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (yTfbH)
September, I believe,
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 14, 2019 03:45 PM (8iiMU)
21 able by this Act for the construction of physical barriers
22 within the city limits of any city or census designated place
23 described in subsection ( c), the Department of Homeland
24 Security and the local elected officials of such a city or
25 census designated place shall confer and seek to reach mu
1 tual agreement regarding the design and alignment of
2 physical barriers within that city or the census designated
3 place (as the case may be). Such consultations shall con
4 tinue until September 30, 2019 ( or until agreement is
5 reached, if earlier) and may be extended beyond that date
6 by agreement of the parties, and no funds made available
7 in this Act shall be used for such construction while con8 sultations are continuing.
9 (b) Not later than July 1,
border cities will fight this
LOOPHOLE
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:45 PM (OKeCc)
351 Man, I hope they reinact the courtroom scene from The Dark Knight with this. Just haul every dipshit in at once.
Posted by: What the Everloving Hell at February 14, 2019 03:44 PM (al2Cf)
I love that Nolan shoehorned in the old Horde favorite joke about "death by Bunga-Bunga".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 14, 2019 03:45 PM (veoSD)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 03:43 PM (yTfbH)
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If what I've heard is correct, until the end of the year.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 03:45 PM (ffYR/)
"Death... by exile."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 03:46 PM (BqXKV)
Operation Wetback.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (fuK7c)
How many people remember that?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 14, 2019 03:46 PM (heaSb)
Who knew, right?
Posted by: Paul Ryan at February 14, 2019 03:46 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: That Guy from The Graduate at February 14, 2019 03:46 PM (hjaPQ)
though, right? So, when the emergency is up, does the law come springing
back to life?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 03:42 PM (13CQC)
Current "National Emergencies": https://tinyurl.com/y9xuddt3
The longest currently in effect was declared by Jimmuh Cahtah 39 years ago.
Posted by: Bert G at February 14, 2019 03:46 PM (OMsf+)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:46 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Benj. Franklin at February 14, 2019 03:47 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 14, 2019 03:47 PM (8iiMU)
Comment section not ideal for boring everyone with nerd-out over appropriations/reprogramming authority.
Bottom line: if the WH/Mulvaney have ID'd sufficient $$, they can probably do a lot on barrier construction
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:47 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Chris M at February 14, 2019 03:29 PM
Sweep all the legs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 14, 2019 03:47 PM (p+Wdc)
Please, Mr. President, veto this. The GOP is not your friend and they - mostly - do not have your back.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 03:48 PM (BqXKV)
though, right? So, when the emergency is up, does the law come springing
back to life?
There have been many NEs declared over the years. People who say that Trump is opening a door to the left when they take power overlook the fact that Obama did 7 of them.
Many NEs declared over the years are sill going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:48 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: nip at February 14, 2019 03:48 PM (DfGpI)
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Operation Wet Back is a go?
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 14, 2019 03:48 PM (2LelM)
Hey Alisa Milano, this is women's reproductive healthcare?? I hope not a one of my sons ever marries a ghoul like you, you are repulsive.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at February 14, 2019 03:17 PM (f8dwL)
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*blinks back tears*
Pure evil.
Some things can't be unseen...or unheard.
Posted by: SMH at February 14, 2019 03:48 PM (RU4sa)
This has rocked a lot of Catholics' faith in their leadership who seem to have more in common with the enemies of faith than their flock.
I expect nothing less than public hair shirts over this.
Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2019 03:48 PM (FBm+D)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 14, 2019 03:49 PM (yTfbH)
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Oh no disagreement at all.
I guarantee Mulvaney already knows exactly where the money is coming from and how much.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 14, 2019 03:49 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 14, 2019 03:49 PM (r+sAi)
I think it was on Laura I last night. An intelligence officer from Guatemala was saying a new illegal train was forming from SOUTH AMERICA, including Africans. Not just Central America. The whole friggin' world is moving this way because of the Democrats. The border will become one nasty place very soon.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:49 PM (OKeCc)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:49 PM (gx7zD)
LOOPHOLE
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 14, 2019 03:45 PM (OKeCc)
Easy to get around, just use other money, right?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 14, 2019 03:49 PM (8iiMU)
Fiscal year. September 30.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2019 03:46 PM (/tuJf)
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Ah. Thanks.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 14, 2019 03:49 PM (ffYR/)
Looks like NRO perfidy will go unpunished by this particular route. But conservatives should never forget that National Review types are pretty much just sitting there waiting for their next chance to LARP as WF Buckley with anyone else they can possibly cast in the John Birch Society role.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at February 14, 2019 03:50 PM (hdzef)
Well, there's this. If he declares a national emergency and actually gets a wall built pronto, that would obviate the situation where illegal aliens get across with fake kids and ICE takes them to the Comfy Centers.
Although there will doubtless be about ten more caravans before a brick is laid.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 14, 2019 03:50 PM (13CQC)
Dem house, rep senate, rep prezzy....Dems still get what they want.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:50 PM (gx7zD)
Take the most outrageous, perhaps, element of the current border/migration disaster (child trafficking and abuse) - and turbo-charge it.
To keep *more* illegals in the country.
And that's just the "new" outrage - as I said in first comment on this, there is lots and lots of fail, and outrageous fail, throughout the package.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:50 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:51 PM (gx7zD)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 14, 2019 03:48 PM (BqXKV)
They already have the votes to override any veto.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 14, 2019 03:52 PM (UnA8+)
Although there will doubtless be about ten more caravans before a brick is laid.
he'd dang well better use organic free-range bricks, or he'll be hearing from us!
Posted by: Sierra Club at February 14, 2019 03:52 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: ace at February 14, 2019 03:31 PM (PbpT7)
*licks lips*
Posted by: a MAP at February 14, 2019 03:52 PM (3Q2mj)
Our leaders acknowledge the wrong that was perpetrated long after it could have done any good.
Posted by: Decaf at February 14, 2019 03:52 PM (FBm+D)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:53 PM (gx7zD)
Thanks to asylum scam, barriers will not necessarily affect any of the family unit or UAC flow.
Only help there could be from Mexico. They've actually taken baby steps to help (basically warehousing fake asylum petitioners in Mexico) - tiny bit in San Diego sector, an actual facility opposite a Texas city.
Once inside the US, the scam commences: inadequate detention facilities (further reduced by this bill), plus court-imposed restrictions on detention, mean they're released, rarely (fewer than 20%) to be seen again.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:53 PM (QDnY+)
Wait until worn thin border agents begin to retire or simply quit due to personal/family strain and there are no patriotic replacements waiting in the wings.
Posted by: slowdown at February 14, 2019 03:53 PM (E+yET)
Posted by: Eric Rabkin at February 14, 2019 03:54 PM (YjzW1)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at February 14, 2019 03:54 PM (gx7zD)
In a body that refused to take any votes at all on any related matters until WH/House Dems agreed on something (something much less outrageous).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 14, 2019 03:56 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 14, 2019 03:31 PM (OUOAS)
Ahhh-AHHH-ahhh!
Posted by: Dayman at February 14, 2019 03:34 PM (7HtZB)
I love this place.
Posted by: Jordan61 at February 14, 2019 03:57 PM (QBy2Q)
Wait until worn thin border agents begin to retire or simply quit due to personal/family strain and there are no patriotic replacements waiting in the wings.
Posted by: slowdown at February 14, 2019 03:53 PM (E+yET)
My cousin had a job lined up with Border Enforcement about thirty years ago, right out of school. My aunt threw a shit fit about it because a) it was too far away and b) it was too dangerous, so he turned it down and got a job as a campus cop at SUNY Buffalo.
I made fun of him back then. Not so much after today.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 14, 2019 03:58 PM (2shuf)
On the bright side, I'm pretty old. Maybe I won't be around for Civil War II.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 14, 2019 04:00 PM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2019 03:03 PM (gC2IV)
Phillips gets the daughter. They daughter gets? Hungarian refugees?
Posted by: Fox2! at February 14, 2019 04:04 PM (5FQVt)
Why are the recent reduced hours and man power at the Canadian border ports of entries not being addressed as another systematic failure of Homeland Security?
Posted by: slowdown at February 14, 2019 04:04 PM (E+yET)
Posted by: Iblis at February 14, 2019 04:06 PM (9221z)
Posted by: antisocialist at February 14, 2019 04:11 PM (2shuf)
Thanks.
Posted by: Born Free at February 14, 2019 04:15 PM (BCWsl)
To list but a few: the wholesale nullification of constitutional rights, the profound sacking of the legal system by corrupting key principles such as due process, devaluing American citizenship to something approximating zero by tossing wide open the borders and granting non-citizens de facto citizenship upon arrival, a free press that has nearly replaced its main role of informing with that of self-appointed prosecutors, persecutors, and inquisitors, and a resurgent racial bigotry whose goal is to deem and destroy all the dare defy and cower from this putridness.
The use of propaganda and mob rule by these bastards is wielded like a master conductor leads; a master symphony of anger and hatred that keeps their cadres in a fevered rage and is now even willing to demand that children be burned alive in a school or tossed alive into wood chippers. What is more chilling is these bastards, at all levels ranging from government officials to the lowest Antifa street thug, expect not only be allowed to do these things but that they will be praised. These things are not the exception anymore but the new normal and are tantamount to war being waged upon us.
In this matter I have hope that Covington children will prevail and by doing so prove, at least for now, that these true Fascists can be stopped by our constitution, expressed in this case through the courts, and that their profound racial and social bigotry be burned at a metaphorical stake lit by that same constitution, legal system, and a deep outrage from those same good people that are still willing to stand against this madness.
Posted by: AntiMarxProLennon at February 14, 2019 04:35 PM (O3UQk)
Piss test the diocese too.
Anyone who believes anything the media says about Trump or MAGA related stories these days has to be on something wild, like adrenochrome or Jimson Weed.
Posted by: Mongo at February 14, 2019 06:13 PM (BD7Qt)
Posted by: Unfunny at February 14, 2019 07:04 PM (xZjSg)
Posted by: Unfunny at February 14, 2019 07:07 PM (xZjSg)
Posted by: Bill Maher's Nose at February 14, 2019 07:16 PM (xZjSg)
I am not too sure the can attach his Tribal money, some tribes allow it, some don't.
Posted by: Slam1263 at February 14, 2019 07:41 PM (lZTgM)
Then again, they fell for Obama's brand of bulshit
Posted by: Anonymooose at February 15, 2019 01:54 AM (yJy4c)
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