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Food Thread: Cooking Without Recipes

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Nope, I don't have the recipe, because I don't need one and neither do you. Now, I'm not talking about "grammie winger" levels of kitchen inexperience, but for people who are reasonably comfortable with their pots and pans and knives, recipes are great for radically new dishes, but much less important for stuff you just feel like eating.

In today's NYT, one of that horrid newspaper's few writers worth reading wrote about exactly that..."You Don't Need A Recipe." Sam Sifton manages to keep politics almost entirely out of his food writing, and that is why he is a worthwhile read. So go down to the local pet store and rescue the food section from the parrot cages!

A good non-recipe is like a little story...something your grandmother tells you when she thinks you are mature enough to use her best saute pan. It doesn't require measurements, because after a few years of cooking for yourself you should know how much garlic YOU want in your chicken, or that grandma's recipe for meatballs needs more salt for YOUR palate.

Here's an example from Sifton for Quick-Roasted Chicken With Tarragon (don't worry, it's an outline, not a link to the NYT). A nice narrative that conjures images of lovely dinners and easy meals, but doesn't bog you down in a rigid structure.

The problem for most new cooks is obvious: "How do I get from requiring a recipe for Pasta With Butter to freestyling in the kitchen"...just riffing on a glimpse of a dish in a magazine or a nice dish from a local restaurant.

I think the best way is to pay attention to your favorite recipes and what makes them good. For instance, that great garlic chicken dish that always got you laid in college? How much garlic was it? The recipe may have said "two cloves, minced fine," but the trick is to convert what you see on the cutting board to what you taste an few hours later. So when I see a recipe that calls for "three bay leaves" I laugh and put one small one into the pot, and take it out earlier than called for, because I know how it is going to taste with that much bay leaf, and I do not approve!

I know this sounds a bit silly, but cooking really is this simple. Just start with easy stuff like Spaghetti Aglio e Olio...spaghetti with oil and garlic. Make it according to a recipe, and then decide how those few ingredients, tweaked for you, will shake out. Notice that garlic figures prominently here? It is a strong flavor, and one that can be controlled very easily. That makes it a perfect target for tweaking!

From there it is a simple step to making dishes that exist only in your mind's eye (or mouth?). Just don't go overboard and start imagining combinations like from commenter "Vendette's" link from a few weeks back: popcorn with olive oil, salt, hershey's syrup and cinnamon.

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I like spicy soups, and this one looks like fun, in spite of the incredibly obnoxious website. The crispy garlic adds a nice crunch, and the "Tuscan kale" adds...um...I have no idea. I'd swap it with spinach or carrots or whatever you have handy.
Chicken and Rice Soup with Garlicky Chile Oil
One of the pleasures of chile oil is how it lingers on your lips after the last spoonful. And it looks fantastic too.

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[Hat Tip: commenter "Blake"]
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Part of me is wary of the possibility that the slim-hipped hipsters of the world will begin to dominate booze making in America, but part of me thinks that this kind of stuff, while ridiculously expensive and unnecessary, is also loads of fun.

"The Most Expensive Bourbon Ever Made"

Buoyed by the mature-beyond-its-years character and faint salinity of another Jefferson’s bourbon, Ocean—barrels of which are aged at sea—Zoeller sought to recreate conditions under which Kentucky whiskey historically traveled to market by flatboat, putting in just below the Falls of the Ohio and floated downriver to New Orleans and ports beyond. Zoeller’s hypothesis is that, while surrounding whiskey-producing states share a similar geology and climate to Kentucky, travel by boat is what gave bourbon made in the Bluegrass State its singular character and reputation. The effects of wind, water, temperature extremes, and time all caused the whiskey to constantly come into more contact with the charred insides of the barrels as it floated downstream.
What happens when they hit upon one of these things that really does make the bourbon better? I can imagine a factory with an automated line that will receive bourbon barrels at one end, agitate them and heat them and freeze them and do all sorts of strange stuff, then belch them out the other end, ready to be bottled for our pleasure. It would be quintessentially American...and I just love that idea.
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Yeah...this is from the end of last month, but I got a chuckle out of it, courtesy of commenter "Bitter Clinger."
It's so cold that beer can't be delivered in parts of the Midwest
It's also a powerful reason to drink more hard liquor, since that doesn't freeze until well below zero. In fact, drink cask-strength booze whenever possible!
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A few years ago I was at a farmer's market in Vermont. It was late summer and everything was about as ripe as could be, including some great tomatoes and, weirdly, some fresh peas or beans or...whatever...I have no idea what they were. The seller wasn't much help (she was a Vermont hippy, barefoot, probably stoned, and certainly a socialist). But the peas were a revelation; incredibly flavorful and tender and sweet. So when I see this kind of stuff I am intrigued.
Southern Pink Lady Peas
They are clearly regional, and the odds of seeing them anywhere other than the South are between slim and none. But every place in America has something like this, and it is a testament to our independence that in spite of Big Food's best efforts, we do not all eat the same stuff!
[Hat Tip: artisanal 'ette]
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Food and cooking tips, triple-cream cheeses, young wild pigs, Venison Steak and Eggs (Swiped from Garrett), thick and fluffy pita and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit.

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1 Having Italian stye meatball sammiches tonight with tater tots. Should be good.

Posted by: HH at February 17, 2019 03:56 PM (mIJBI)

2 I love chicken

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 03:57 PM (/rm4P)

3 Huh - Didn't realize some chickens are into bondage.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 03:58 PM (Y4EXg)

4 Fought my tablet for a minute to get that far.

We are having chicken, baked potatoes and salad

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 03:58 PM (/rm4P)

5 No recipe? Put in stuff you like. And lots of it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 17, 2019 03:58 PM (yQpMk)

6 3 they don't go into a oven peacefully

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 03:59 PM (/rm4P)

7 Ribeyes, guac and salad for supper today. Down 24 lbs in a month since becoming a meatatarian.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:00 PM (Y4EXg)

8 Make that 'style'.

Posted by: HH at February 17, 2019 04:00 PM (mIJBI)

9 Pork medallions, scalloped potatoes and ???? for dinner. Will figure out the veggie later. Maybe fried apples.
And the chicken above looks glorious and probably tastes even better.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at February 17, 2019 04:00 PM (N3JsI)

10 How do you get the right amount of carrots in chili?

That's right. You don't.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 04:02 PM (DMUuz)

11 Put in stuff you like. And lots of it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 17, 2019 03:58 PM (yQpMk)

Exactly. That's how I cook most days.

Although the pasta cooked in bourbon was a little weird.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 04:02 PM (wYseH)

12 I made baked rigatoni with butternut squash sauce, a dollop of cream cheese, a sprinkle of pine nuts, and meatballs made from brisket/bacon mix. Delish!

Also a big meatloaf per Ina Garten's recipe, to which I added a can of 'shrooms.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:03 PM (kQs4Y)

13 Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit.

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Karo at February 17, 2019 04:05 PM (DMUuz)

14 A few years ago I was at a farmer's market in Vermont. It was late summer and everything was about as ripe as could be

Sorry about that. I actually had to throw those boxers away.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at February 17, 2019 04:06 PM (dzJ3R)

15 How dare you call this a food thread, CBD? It doesn't even have a single mention of Lard.

Posted by: Massive Marxist Momzer Michael Moore at February 17, 2019 04:07 PM (tVQUs)

16 Any recipe with tarragon gets ignored, or tarragon subbed with something else.

I don't know why, but I really detest that stuff.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 04:07 PM (OX9vb)

17 Making chicken tacos today..

Developed the recipe without a recipe.

Boneless chicken thighs: Check
Onions: Check
Garlic: Check
hot Pace picante sauce: Check

Toss boneless thighs, sliced onions and smashed/riced/sliced (your pick) garlic cloves in electric skillet. Pour over small jar of pace. (Note: must be hot Pace picante sauce. Not sure why, but the mild and medium just don't have much in the way of flavor)

Simmer and slowly break down the chicken thighs. This needs to cook about 3 hours, covered. The last hour, uncovered to boil off all the liquids.

Makes for great pulled chicken tacos.

No idea how I came with this, but this particular recipe hasn't really been modified since we first made this.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:07 PM (WEBkv)

18 Can't help but notice that poor chicken's ankles were tied together.
You do you.

Posted by: Steve Borden at February 17, 2019 04:07 PM (MbZQy)

19 Murdered a pot roast this week.

It was just a bad cut of chuck. Probably a 'cross-rib' roast, the latest labeling abomination on the West coast.

Just riven with connective tissue, hard knots of meat. Terrible.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 17, 2019 04:07 PM (0ogxh)

20
It's also a powerful reason to drink more hard liquor, since that doesn't freeze until well below zero.

One below freezing night my wife said to me, "I forgot to bring your vodka in from the car, think it will be alright?"

I comforted her by saying, "Don't worry, they put alcohol in it to keep it from freezing."

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 04:08 PM (jYje5)

21 Roast beef, pommes frites, salad and a nice red wine.

But first, a martini at 5. Tanqueray knottyhead, keeping it real.

One olive please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 17, 2019 04:09 PM (Z+IKu)

22 Sorry, I enjoy to cook, but I am up a creek with out a paddle if I do not have a recipe and sometimes even with a recipe I am up that creek.

Posted by: Piric at February 17, 2019 04:09 PM (nonGu)

23 Oh, and the chicken tacos? Don't seem to be a good candidate for the Insta Pot.

Though we may give it a whirl down the road.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:09 PM (WEBkv)

24 Dang, CBD. I am eating week-old pinto beans and cornbread for which I give a hearty thanks. It's the 'waste not, want not' recipe.

Posted by: Eromero at February 17, 2019 04:10 PM (zLDYs)

25 16 Any recipe with tarragon gets ignored, or tarragon subbed with something else.

I don't know why, but I really detest that stuff.
Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 04:07 PM (OX9vb)
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Change out tarragon for capers and I'm with you.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:10 PM (WEBkv)

26 19
Murdered a pot roast this week.



It was just a bad cut of chuck. Probably a 'cross-rib' roast, the latest labeling abomination on the West coast.



Just riven with connective tissue, hard knots of meat. Terrible.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 17, 2019 04:07 PM (0ogxh)

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LOL. Just this week I made the worst pork chops in my entire life. So bad, so dry that my sharpest knife could barely saw them. Had to throw them out. Just had to. I laughed.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2019 04:11 PM (aWjrD)

27 powerlineblog.com/Hitler learns Bruno Ganz has died
https://tinyurl.com/y69xhqpe

You asked for it

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 04:11 PM (/rm4P)

28 That Chicken looks a tad dry.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 17, 2019 04:12 PM (tVQUs)

29 How dare you call this a food thread, CBD? It doesn't even have a single mention of Lard.

Posted by: Massive Marxist Momzer Michael Moore
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Point taken. Let's fix that right away. I made a corn pie this week - yes, corn pie. It's a PA German thing. Anyway, the pie crust was made with lard. Not that crap from a grocery story - the real stuff from a good butcher.

Happy now?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:12 PM (Y4EXg)

30 MiL gave me a German version of the instant pot. Can't read the instructions very well, so watched utube vids. Thought I had it figured out...oh no. Ruined 2 roasts. Scared to try again. I'll stick with the crockpot. Don't need instructions for that

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:13 PM (bS3pF)

31 Made Gordon Ramsay's Leek and Pancetta Quiche yesterday.

It was delish! And very rich.

Just needs a salad and glass of wine for a great meal.

Maybe some citrus fruits for dessert.

Plus! Stupidly easy to make.

That's what I like about GR's recipes. They're generally quick and easy with great flavor.

Here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LzLqmfiOVU

Make one tonight!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2019 04:13 PM (9X624)

32 Point taken. Let's fix that right away. I made a corn pie this week - yes, corn pie. It's a PA German thing. Anyway, the pie crust was made with lard. Not that crap from a grocery story - the real stuff from a good butcher.

Happy now?
Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:12 PM (Y4EXg)
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Would it be possible to use bacon fat rather than lard in the crust?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:13 PM (WEBkv)

33 Steak, salad and Black Butte Porter for dinner tonight. Last time, I seared the steak in a cast iron pan, rubbed it with a crushed garlic clove, salted and peppered it lightly and finished it in the oven. Came out pretty nice; I'll probably do the same thing tonight.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 17, 2019 04:13 PM (Hx3Yn)

34 That Chicken looks a tad dry.
Posted by: Surfperch at February 17, 2019 04:12 PM (tVQUs)

Well it is a dry county

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 04:13 PM (Y+V3r)

35 ...start with one whole chicken, freshly interrogated and made to talk...

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 17, 2019 04:13 PM (RuIsu)

36 7 Ribeyes, guac and salad for supper today. Down 24 lbs in a month since becoming a meatatarian.

Tonypete, good on ya!

I got tired of meat, and have spent this week thinking about other things to eat so I can get back on track.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 04:13 PM (OX9vb)

37 We are eating leftover pork barbecue. We were in Selma yesterday and bought a few pounds for a big family lunch. BTW, the town was a buzz that Hillary is coming to stagger across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in solidarity with something. She's running, no doubt.

I hope to hell they make some attempt to clean up the trash ridden filthy streets of Selma before the TV cameras get there. That place is an embarrassment to the state. Selma used to be a prosperous, though very racist, place. Now it's a shithole of filthy, crime, and poverty.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (yQpMk)

38 Daughter Maegan the Virtuous is looking for savory ways to use up egg whites. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (Pzj+4)

39 I am having Yellow pepper with thousand island dressing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (Y+V3r)

40 Would it be possible to use bacon fat rather than lard in the crust?

Posted by: Blake
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Hmmmm. I have never tried that but there are certainly recipes for it. I would imagine it would be saltier since there is no salt in lard and usually plenty in bacon.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (Y4EXg)

41 Venison Steak and Eggs


Venison eggs do not sound very appetizing at all.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at February 17, 2019 04:16 PM (GKn0I)

42 I hope to hell they make some attempt to clean up the trash ridden filthy streets of Selma before the TV cameras get there. That place is an embarrassment to the state. Selma used to be a prosperous, though very racist, place. Now it's a shithole of filthy, crime, and poverty.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (yQpMk)
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Actually, leave all the trash and hope the cameras catch all the trash cheering Hillary along with the garbage lining the streets.

The campaign ads write themselves.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:16 PM (WEBkv)

43 I don't know why, but I really detest that stuff.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 04:07 PM (OX9vb)

Me too, although I think it works pretty well on roast chicken. But everything else? No thanks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 04:17 PM (wYseH)

44 Just opened my last Hermitage

I might cry

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 04:17 PM (RZ6R1)

45
I use recipes for baking, but for cooking? Nah.

I discovered something interesting recently about sous vide. There are hundreds of times and temperatures possible for everything. But I'm a lazy fvck and just want stuff perfect and in the minimum time. So I pick up my meat thermometer with the minimum safe temps for everything and set the sous vide to that temp.

I was under cooking chicken -- temperature wise -- and it was a bloody mess. Took it up to 185 and it's juicy and tender and falling off the bone.

Beef I was overcooking and it became tough.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 04:17 PM (jYje5)

46 Charles the Simple,

Beat the egg whites with a pinch of tartar cream until stiff.
Plop spoonfuls down on parchment paper lined cookie sheet and bake 350F for a few minutes until crisp.

Can sweeten the whites, or spice up.

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:18 PM (bS3pF)

47 From Insty right now:



COVERING THE IMPORTANT STORIES: 14 Cereals that defined our childhood.




But no Kaboom? Not our class (of cereal) dear.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:19 PM (Y4EXg)

48 Venison eggs do not sound very appetizing at all.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at February 17, 2019 04:16 PM (GKn0I)

Put lil boxing gloves on the buck's rear hooves and you're gtg

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 04:19 PM (RZ6R1)

49 Venison eggs do not sound very appetizing at all.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at February 17, 2019 04:16 PM (GKn0I)

Those little antlers always get caught in my teeth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 04:20 PM (wYseH)

50 I did steaks, farfalle with prosciutto/mushroom cream sauce, and sautéed green beans for the gf last night. Went with horde recommendation for wine, did Beaujolais. Will try the cabernet next time I do a similar meal.

Earlier, we went to the circus, and did popcorn, nachos and cotton candy.

I'd call it a well rounded day, culinarily.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 04:20 PM (5aX2M)

51 Any recipe with tarragon gets ignored, or tarragon subbed with something else.

I don't know why, but I really detest that stuff.
Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 04:07 PM


I always found whipping up some shirred eggs with tarragon and with a mimosa to be a sure pleaser as a intermission caloric replacement, and leading to a round 3 or 4.

Tarragon is magical!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 04:20 PM (DMUuz)

52 Hmmmm. I have never tried that but there are certainly recipes for it. I would imagine it would be saltier since there is no salt in lard and usually plenty in bacon.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (Y4EXg)
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I was thinking the bacon fat against the sweetness of the corn might be interesting.*

Or an abomination.

*I'm operating under the assumption corn pie is on the sweet side.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:20 PM (WEBkv)

53 28 Uses for Bacon Fat:

https://tinyurl.com/jrpuykd

Bacon fat pie crusts, people! Imagine a chocolate cream pie with a bacon-y crust.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:21 PM (kQs4Y)

54 Daughter Maegan the Virtuous is looking for savory ways to use up egg whites. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (Pzj+4)


Egg drop soup. Or egg drop in any other chicken soup, just set it to simmer, swirl it once, and slowly pour it in so the movement of the soup draws it away and threads it out before it sets.

That or Liberty spikes, always fashionable.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:21 PM (t+qrx)

55 This is an interesting post. I have two daughters who are very good cooks. One is recipe-driven and recipe-bound, but poised and accomplished. The other one never uses recipes and is completely natural in the kitchen. Reminds me a little of two kinds of musicians--the ones who can sight read like madmen and can't improvise very well, and the ones who can improvise like madmen and can't really sight read.

Posted by: Caliban at February 17, 2019 04:21 PM (QE8X6)

56 I use recipes for baking, but for cooking? Nah.


That's why I don't bake. Cooking you can adjust as you go along. Oh, that's too fatty, cut it with an acid. Or vice versa.

Baking is like put it in the oven and take what comes out. No puedo.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 04:21 PM (fuK7c)

57 I had -burp, Oh, pardon me- scrambled eggs with jalapenos and 3 variety Mexican cheese melted in them and a huge pile of bacon.

Snack is blueberry, ricotta crepes.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 04:21 PM (5hE5B)

58 Just give me a nice lamb shank with risotto and I'm happy

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 04:21 PM (RZ6R1)

59 Egg whites means lemon meringue pie.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 17, 2019 04:21 PM (4thlk)

60 This is an interesting post. I have two daughters who are very good cooks.

I have two daughters. Ah they have advanced degrees?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 04:22 PM (Y+V3r)

61 7 bone roasts on sale here now.

that chicken looks delicious.

I have a go to for weeknights in a pinch or when I'm not feeling inspired. Put chic breasts in 9x13. Mix crème of mushroom soup, white pepper and garlic. Thin with white wine, pour over chicken and bake. 10 mins. before done, top with grated swiss cheese. It's yummy, easy and makes a great lunch for work the next day.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:22 PM (9L2du)

62 54 Daughter Maegan the Virtuous is looking for savory ways to use up egg whites. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (Pzj+4)
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Top Ramen noodles.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:22 PM (WEBkv)

63 Bacon fat candles are a huge disappointment, don't waste your time.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:22 PM (t+qrx)

64 I'd call it a well rounded day, culinarily.


Fine. But did you get any?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 04:23 PM (fuK7c)

65 Reminds me a little of two kinds of musicians--the
ones who can sight read like madmen and can't improvise very well, and
the ones who can improvise like madmen and can't really sight read.

Posted by: Caliban at February 17, 2019 04:21 PM (QE8X6)

Interesting comparison. I think most people are a little bit of both...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 04:23 PM (wYseH)

66 Tarragon is magical!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 04:20 PM (DMUuz)



That aint tarragon, dude

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 04:23 PM (RZ6R1)

67

Garlic. Don't like a ton of it in my food because inevitably (for me) that's all I can taste. It's much better if you roast it first and then use it doing an oven roast beef, when you make a slit in the meat and push a clove in, very mellow and tasty.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 17, 2019 04:23 PM (S/hVx)

68 the pie crust was made with lard. Not that crap from a grocery story - the real stuff from a good butcher.

Where do you get yours? It's about time for a new pail. I imagine Shady Maple has it, but I haven't gone out there to check it out yet.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2019 04:24 PM (f6lTY)

69 I'm operating under the assumption corn pie is on the sweet side.
Posted by: Blake
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Yeah maybe. Kinda sweet but not overly. in the pie shell: corn, a couple of cut up hard boiled eggs, a boatload of pepper and 2/3 T of whole milk. Put lid on and bake until down.

That's the expanded version of Gramma's recipe. LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:24 PM (Y4EXg)

70 Hogmartin, check out the kimchee and bacon grilled cheese sammy in that list.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:24 PM (kQs4Y)

71 I made a rediscovery this week: orange marmalade. We found some Smuckers without added sugar and gave it a try. Delish! Still a bit high in carbs but I only use a tiny amount. Turns out a skim of the marmalade on buttered toast and two fried eggs on top makes a damn tasty breakfast.

Not earth shaking but tasty.

Smuckers also makes a marmalade with Splenda and has half the carbs. Gonna give that a try next.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 04:25 PM (bmdz3)

72 Daughter Maegan the Virtuous is looking for savory ways to use up egg whites. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller

Angel food cake.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:25 PM (9L2du)

73 Butter, butter and more butter must be in the recipe.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 17, 2019 04:25 PM (r+sAi)

74
Yeah, you wanna improvise in a baking recipe? Make sure you invite a lot of guests beforehand so they can all mock your failure while they suck down your booze and look at you with a combination of hunger and anger.

Failure is not an option when baking. Don't get off the boat.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 04:26 PM (jYje5)

75 Reminds me a little of two kinds of musicians--the
ones who can sight read like madmen and can't improvise very well, and
the ones who can improvise like madmen and can't really sight read.
Posted by: Caliban at February 17, 2019 04:21 PM (QE8X6)

Interesting comparison. I think most people are a little bit of both...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 04:23 PM (wYseH)


It really helps to have at least a little of both. Things like baking require proper ratios that are hard to eyeball, and things like pan-frying are almost impossible to quantify. I can't teach someone how to make a grilled cheese sandwich over the phone, all the cues are visual and tactile and olfactory.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:27 PM (t+qrx)

76 I have 1 bottle of Hermatage from maybe 1979, saving it for retirement.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 04:27 PM (/rm4P)

77 Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:22 PM (9L2du)
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I have a chicken recipe that I haven't made in a while because my big oven needs to be replaced. Put a package of chicken thighs in you 9x13, mix together a package of onion soup mix, 8 oz. of French dressing and a can of whole berry cranberry sauce, pour it ove the chicken, and bake uncovered at 350 for about 45 min. Serve with rice, and don't neglect all the yummy juice in the bottom of tge pan!

Posted by: Captain Obvious at February 17, 2019 04:27 PM (Hx3Yn)

78 Daughter Maegan the Virtuous is looking for savory ways to use up egg whites. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (Pzj+4)



Egg Whites?

Time for-

Pisco Sours

and

Ramos Gin Fizzes!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2019 04:28 PM (9X624)

79 Where do you get yours? It's about time for a new
pail. I imagine Shady Maple has it, but I haven't gone out there to
check it out yet.

Posted by: t-bird
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T-bird, it scares me I know where Shady Maple is and I live 8 hours away.

When I get back to the farm, I get mine at Dietrich's Meats up in Krumsville.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:28 PM (Y4EXg)

80 76 I have 1 bottle of Hermatage from maybe 1979, saving it for retirement.
Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 04:27 PM (/rm4P)
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I'm gonna roll an epic fatty when I retire.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:28 PM (kQs4Y)

81 >>I have two daughters. Ah they have advanced degrees?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 04:22 PM (Y+V3r)

Actually I have three, but the youngest doesn't cook at all. One of the others does have an advanced degree, and $100,000 in college loan debt.

Posted by: Caliban at February 17, 2019 04:28 PM (QE8X6)

82 I can't teach someone how to make a grilled cheese sandwich over the phone, all the cues are visual and tactile and olfactory.


I tried to teach a guy how to cook a steak over the internet.

It didn't work.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 04:28 PM (fuK7c)

83 My great aunt made divinity...cookies, bars, icing for angel food and pound cakes. I've tried, but always a disaster. I'd buy it in Charleston or Savannah at a sweets market, along with pralines. That and shotguns are what I miss most about living stateside

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:29 PM (bS3pF)

84 Hogmartin, check out the kimchee and bacon grilled cheese sammy in that list.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:24 PM (kQs4Y)


Speaking of kimchi, have you ever had kimchi mac and cheese?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:29 PM (t+qrx)

85 Butter, butter and more butter must be in the recipe.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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I didn't think I had to mention that, but, yes, of course.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:30 PM (Y4EXg)

86 Speaking of kimchi, have you ever had kimchi mac and cheese?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:29 PM (t+qrx)
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Not yet! Where did we see that? What restaurant?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:30 PM (kQs4Y)

87 I tried to teach a guy how to cook a steak over the internet.

It didn't work.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 04:28 PM (fuK7c)


*long low whistle*

Yeah.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:31 PM (t+qrx)

88 Oh , and I almost saw a guy die at the circus.

He was on this fifty foot tall piston-rod shaped thing that rotated at varying rates as he performed tricks on the wider ring, which rotated independently of the main shaft. Very tricky, very cool.

At one point in the routine, as he passed the ground, his assistant threw him a jump rope, and he jump ropes on the ring. At the top he tripped on that rope, and barely recovered. It did NOT look like a staged thing to excite people.

If that was part of the act, he's a good actor, and a crazy bastard.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 04:32 PM (5aX2M)

89 It really helps to have at least a little of both. Things like baking require proper ratios that are hard to eyeball, and things like pan-frying are almost impossible to quantify. I can't teach someone how to make a grilled cheese sandwich over the phone, all the cues are visual and tactile and olfactory.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:27 PM (t+qrx)
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Butter, good bread, good cheese.

Toss buttered bread onto grill, butter side down. Grate cheese on break. Put buttered bread on top of cheese, butter side up. Flip when bottom bread is nicely browned.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:32 PM (WEBkv)

90 Has anyone here ever made kimchi? I just bought another jar, and that stuff is expensive here. Good, but expensive

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:32 PM (bS3pF)

91 I can't teach someone how to make a grilled cheese sandwich over the phone, all the cues are visual and tactile and olfactory.


I tried to teach a guy how to cook a steak over the internet.

It didn't work.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 04:28 PM (fuK7c)

My grandmother LOVED divinity. Hard to make, though. Needs to be cold weather. Watch the candy thermometer carefully. If it doesn't thicken a short time after beating, it's a failure.

But, such really, really good eating from scratch. YUMMY!

Posted by: Charlotte the sailor at February 17, 2019 04:34 PM (ciIgH)

92 Bacon fat candles are a huge disappointment, don't waste your time.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:22 PM


They do taste kind of waxy, don't they?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 04:34 PM (DMUuz)

93 have two daughters. Ah they have advanced degrees?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 04:22 PM (Y+V3r)

Actually I have three, but the youngest doesn't cook at all. One of the others does have an advanced degree, and $100,000 in college loan debt.
Posted by: Caliban at February 17, 2019 04:28 PM (QE8X6)

Well the oldest does make a mean Bloody Mary, that was after over $100,000 also. Worth it? Sometimes. Lol

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 04:34 PM (Y+V3r)

94 My mom was a pretty good cook and could never master divinity either. I always thought it was loathsome stuff. Don't much like meringue, either though.

I liked the egg drop soup suggestion for egg whites.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 17, 2019 04:34 PM (S+f+m)

95 Not yet! Where did we see that? What restaurant?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:30 PM (kQs4Y)


It was in another food thread, a friend in Seattle gets it at a chicken place near where she lives. I still haven't tried it.

It's this place, if any Seattle Morons have had it. Kimchi mac and cheese sounds pretty flippin' good.:
http://tinyurl.com/y34v53qp

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:34 PM (t+qrx)

96 Yeah, you wanna improvise in a baking recipe? Make sure you invite a lot of guests beforehand so they can all mock your failure while they suck down your booze and look at you with a combination of hunger and anger.

Failure is not an option when baking. Don't get off the boat.
Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 04:26 PM (jYje5)

I've seen it put this way: Baking is science, cooking is art

Posted by: BigZesty at February 17, 2019 04:34 PM (EjnXg)

97 Has anyone here ever made kimchi? I just bought another jar, and that stuff is expensive here. Good, but expensive

Posted by: Euro
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Not kimchi per se but I've done sauerkraut. Since I am the only one in the house that eats it, it just isn't worth the effort. I still have the crocks and all sitting around.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 04:35 PM (Y4EXg)

98 Since this appears to be a garlic themed thread I had some delicious shrimp scampi last night at a nice little local restaurant. I love me some garlic.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 04:36 PM (/tuJf)

99 Has anyone here ever made kimchi?

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My dad tried once.

Something went wrong. When he opened the bucket, it was unspeakably rancid, and a cloud of horrible spores came out. It gave my friend a wicked fungal infection in his lungs.

Never tried a second time.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 04:36 PM (5aX2M)

100 My pa had a story about trying to make divinity. Burned out the motor on the mixer, so used his power drill. Not a happy ending.
Heck, I'd settle for Stuckeys pecan log right about now. German desserts just dont compare.

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:36 PM (bS3pF)

101 I have an old Martha stewart lemon angel food cake recipe that is delish. I same the whites from eggs benedict in the freezer and when I have enough, make the lemon angel food. Maybe it's time to go on an eggs benedict binge again.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:37 PM (9L2du)

102 I wing it a lot in the kitchen, frequently change recipes as I go. I feel cosmic obligation to use all that amazing produce from the garden, soups and salsa have limitless varieties

Posted by: lurking grandma at February 17, 2019 04:37 PM (sujqA)

103 Has anyone here ever made kimchi? I just bought another jar, and that stuff is expensive here. Good, but expensive
Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:32 PM


Yes. Not that hard.

Back before Christmas (IIRC), CBD posted a link to a kit you could get to make small batch fermentables.

Amazon happens to have a Kindle book on the subject on sale today:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6cw8kh2

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 04:37 PM (DMUuz)

104 Has anyone here ever made kimchi?

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My dad tried once.

Something went wrong. When he opened the bucket, it was unspeakably rancid, and a cloud of horrible spores came out. It gave my friend a wicked fungal infection in his lungs.

Never tried a second time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 04:36 PM (5aX2M)



Yeah, I've had a couple of friends try to make it and failed miserably.

Apparently, you've got to be very careful or it gets contaminated by undesirable bacteria and gremlins.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2019 04:38 PM (9X624)

105 save the egg whites.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:38 PM (9L2du)

106 So I guess I'm better off braving the traffic and neighborhood to buy the kimchi at the German Asian market.

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:39 PM (bS3pF)

107 My dad tried once.

Something went wrong. When he opened the bucket, it was unspeakably rancid, and a cloud of horrible spores came out. It gave my friend a wicked fungal infection in his lungs.

Never tried a second time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 04:36 PM (5aX2M)
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You canned, "Valley Fever?"

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:39 PM (WEBkv)

108 Butter, good bread, good cheese.

Toss buttered bread onto grill, butter side down. Grate cheese on break. Put buttered bread on top of cheese, butter side up. Flip when bottom bread is nicely browned.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:32 PM (WEBkv)


Sure, but do I set the burner to the fourth or the fifth notch? Now the pan is smoking. What's "low-medium"? The pan's on the burner but it's not getting warm.

It's trivial if you're doing it or you're right there, trying to come up with a step-by-step recipe is harder than it sounds. Something as simple as thin steel vs. cast iron pans changes the "recipe" a bit.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:39 PM (t+qrx)

109 save the egg whites.
Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:38 PM (9L2du)

Leave the gun

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 04:39 PM (Y+V3r)

110 Euro, korean co-worker years ago mentioned buying a kimchi fridge. But I don't know if that was needed because you don't want the other stuff in the fridge to absorb kimchi smell and taste or because of wanting to make a lot of kimchi.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 17, 2019 04:40 PM (jUcoH)

111 83 My great aunt made divinity...cookies, bars, icing for angel food and pound cakes. I've tried, but always a disaster. I'd buy it in Charleston or Savannah at a sweets market, along with pralines. That and shotguns are what I miss most about living stateside
Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:29 PM (bS3pF)

See reply on #91. (Sorry, replied to the wrong post)

Posted by: Charlotte the sailor at February 17, 2019 04:40 PM (ciIgH)

112 at the German Asian market.


So, the Axis is getting back together and taking its act on the road?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 04:40 PM (fuK7c)

113 Spaghetti Aglio e Olio"

So, spaghetti o's?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 04:41 PM (//K3c)

114 Sure, but do I set the burner to the fourth or the fifth notch? Now the pan is smoking. What's "low-medium"? The pan's on the burner but it's not getting warm.

It's trivial if you're doing it or you're right there, trying to come up with a step-by-step recipe is harder than it sounds. Something as simple as thin steel vs. cast iron pans changes the "recipe" a bit.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:39 PM (t+qrx)
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You make a good point.

To me, setting the stove to the right temperature or flame height is automatic to the point I really don't give it much thought.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:41 PM (WEBkv)

115 When he opened the bucket, it was unspeakably rancid, and a cloud of horrible spores came out.
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This is already better than Alien: Covenant.

So how many in your landing party died?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:41 PM (kQs4Y)

116 never leave the gun if your prints are on it.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:41 PM (9L2du)

117 This is how I've cooked for years! Recipes are for inspiration.
On Friday I had a flashback to Chick Fil A's creamy southwestern chicken soup I had a few years ago, and decided to come up with my own version.
I browsed recipes, didn't care for any of them, and made my own.
A new family favorite was born: we all liked it so much I made it again the next night.
An Everlasting Meal is a great book about cooking that way.

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 17, 2019 04:41 PM (adsVM)

118 Learn a handful of kitchen techniques and 'viola', whatevers in the refrig and pantry can be special...

Posted by: Lone Ranger at February 17, 2019 04:41 PM (Rln+7)

119 I didn't defrost something for dinner.
Too late.
*sigh*

I guess I can make egg something.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2019 04:41 PM (Rxduq)

120 They do taste kind of waxy, don't they?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 04:34 PM (DMUuz)


Harvested from hybrid pigbees.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:41 PM (t+qrx)

121 Toss buttered mayonnaised bread onto grill, butter mayonnaise side down. Grate cheese on break. Put buttered bread on top of cheese, butter side up. Flip when bottom bread is nicely browned.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:32

FIFY

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM (Dhht7)

122 Euro, that's what stateside friends are for. To send you care packages.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM (5hE5B)

123 So, the Axis is getting back together and taking its act on the road?"

Needs something Italian...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM (//K3c)

124 cooking without a recipe is fun

baking without a recipe is disaster

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM (BJlbN)

125 Bandersnatch, yep purdy much. Asian market run by dot not feather Indians in the Turk section of town, with paki kebap carts

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM (bS3pF)

126 So, the Axis is getting back together and taking its act on the road?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 04:40 PM (fuK7c)
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Oh no! Poor Bruno Ganz! So close.

Still... *pulls dry cleaning bag off Hugo Boss uniform*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM (kQs4Y)

127 When I get back to the farm, I get mine at Dietrich's Meats up in Krumsville.

Thanks, I've heard of them. I think for scrapple. That's worth a trip some time. Thanks.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM (CMq2e)

128 Kimchi? My darling bride occasionally makes a batch, but mostly buys a bottle from the store. It's a tad pricey, but so are my hobbies, so it's all good.

Posted by: eastofsuez at February 17, 2019 04:43 PM (U2zca)

129 FIFY
Posted by: olddog in mo at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM (Dhht7)

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I'm a mayo guy as much as the next, but, just no.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:43 PM (WEBkv)

130 Happy Thanksgiving!

Posted by: an extremely confused old lady at February 17, 2019 04:43 PM (UdKB7)

131 Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM (bS3pF)

Are you perchance in Antwerp?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 04:43 PM (kQs4Y)

132 Posted by: an extremely confused old lady at February 17, 2019 04:43 PM (UdKB7)
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Hillary is now posting at the HQ!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:44 PM (WEBkv)

133 To me, setting the stove to the right temperature or flame height is automatic to the point I really don't give it much thought.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 04:41 PM (WEBkv)


Same here. And I can use either pan and know the stove setting and flip time for a toasty cheese sandwich. But if you put me in someone else's kitchen with a different stove and unfamiliar utensils, and asked me to cook a familiar recipe, I'd still be a little lost.

And scared, probably. Scared too. Because how did I even get there?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:45 PM (t+qrx)

134 lard .. I've started saving pork fat in the freezer with the vague idea if making soap this summer

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 04:45 PM (BJlbN)

135 A little bow in the string tying the chicken ankles together would have been a nice touch.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 04:45 PM (MVjcR)

136 One of the problems I have with winging it in the kitchen is that I often forget exactly what I did.
So, when the dish comes out great, I can't duplicate it later.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2019 04:45 PM (Rxduq)

137 I think the kimchi fridge is also to control the temperature since fermentation is at a different temp than just keeping your food from going bad. Another words, the temp is kept higher than a normal fridge. And the smell....

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 04:46 PM (kufk0)

138 The Andromeda Strain of kimchi is the best.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 17, 2019 04:46 PM (RuIsu)

139 >>And scared, probably. Scared too. Because how did I even get there?

You just said someone put you there.

Pay attention.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 04:46 PM (/tuJf)

140 Margarita. Hot water is your friend. Just think of it as a quick sous vide prep before frying or baking. Well most of the meat in my freezer is in sealed plastic, but a ziploc bag will prob'ly work in a pinch.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 17, 2019 04:46 PM (jUcoH)

141 OT, I got 4 offers on the house. I took the highest bidder, only because they were bringing the most cash to the table and have financing in place. Close in less than 30 days, hopefully.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:47 PM (9L2du)

142 Eris, we're in Germany. Commissary on an army base sucks, and German groceries carry German food or Turk food. Not a lot of options for a southern girl to get basic staples. And MiL can only mail so much Jiffy mix before I feel guilty.

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:47 PM (bS3pF)

143 When I get back to the farm, I get mine at Dietrich's Meats up in Krumsville.



Thanks, I've heard of them. I think for scrapple. That's worth a trip some time. Thanks.


Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2019 04:42 PM

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We used to stop there quite often. It was on the way back from Ohio where my family was to New England where we lived. They have some really nice smoked meats.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 17, 2019 04:47 PM (JUOKG)

144 FYI, Kimchi fried rice is da bomb.

Posted by: eastofsuez at February 17, 2019 04:48 PM (U2zca)

145 Way to go Infidel! Congratulations.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:48 PM (t+qrx)

146 I have white chicken chili in the crockpot...for tomorrow (cuz soups, chili, etc is always better the next day). Also just made a big batch of tuna salad.

Both things I make winging it. Also with my husband doing renovations....in the kitchen. :/

Posted by: Tami at February 17, 2019 04:48 PM (cF8AT)

147 some of the fun is figuring out how to get useful parts out of what is near the end of its shelf life. The last of the squash is getting soft. I have made lots of "pumpkin" recipes. Some years ago we got 300 lbs of bear fat. It took 11 days rendering it (outside). We made lots of soap. It works well as lard for baking and deep frying. But filtering it was difficult. I eventually discovered that milk filters in a conical metal fruit strainer in the oven worked well. It works for getting honey from the cappings too.

Posted by: lurking grandma at February 17, 2019 04:48 PM (sujqA)

148 130
Happy Thanksgiving!

Posted by: an extremely confused old lady at February 17, 2019 04:43 PM (UdKB7)

+++
She is kind of an enigma. She loves her role as Speaker and she loves being in front of the cameras. But every single time, she gets flustered, stutters, and very often blurts out the wrong thing (with notes in front of her!). She has been doing this for years. Is it dementia, I really don't know.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2019 04:49 PM (aWjrD)

149 Truth be told, the chicken ankle string looks a lot like a fuse.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 04:50 PM (MVjcR)

150 148 - its the Botox at the brain. Gotta be

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:50 PM (bS3pF)

151 Boys road tripped up north to visit their God-sister.

I'll prolly have left over Costco lasagna for dinner.

and some Irish.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 04:50 PM (PkVlr)

152 Some years ago we got 300 lbs of bear fat. It took 11 days rendering it (outside). We made lots of soap. It works well as lard for baking and deep frying. But filtering it was difficult. I eventually discovered that milk filters in a conical metal fruit strainer in the oven worked well. It works for getting honey from the cappings too.
Posted by: lurking grandma
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wow...just wow. The things you read here. Not meant as an insult in anyway. I just can't even comprehend how you'd wind up with that much bear fat...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 04:51 PM (kufk0)

153 I need to make a big batch of chicken stew with polenta before the cold weather goes away.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 04:51 PM (5hE5B)

154 Son happened into a liquor store he had never been to. Notices up on the high shelf, not one, not two, but three bottles of Old Fitzgerald bib, 9 year. Quick texts to his buddies who wanted in. Store employee did not know the price and had to call the owner. Son bought all three for $450 (after double checking the seals) and one was actually an eleven year (That's the one he kept for himself.).

He's feeling pretty smug.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 04:52 PM (RfzVr)

155 153 I need to make a big batch of chicken stew with polenta before the cold weather goes away.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 04:51 PM (5hE5B)
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Well hurry up. I hate winter.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 04:53 PM (MVjcR)

156 One of the problems I have with winging it in the kitchen is that I often forget exactly what I did.

So, when the dish comes out great, I can't duplicate it later.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2019 04:45 PM

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That's been happening to me with my smoked chicken wing experiment. I finally stumbled upon a very nice result and I can't remember what I did.


I have tried five more times and I can't duplicate what was a perfect smoked BBQ chicken wing.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 17, 2019 04:53 PM (JUOKG)

157 this is for the gardening thread probably, but I'm going to need to do major soil amendments to be able to plant a garden this year.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:53 PM (9L2du)

158 136: yep. Add to that drinking at the party and well, shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 17, 2019 04:53 PM (nDe2U)

159 "I just can't even comprehend how you'd wind up with that much bear fat..."


Lots of pik-i-nik baskets.

Posted by: Yogi at February 17, 2019 04:53 PM (UdKB7)

160 I'd call it a well rounded day, culinarily.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 04:20 PM (5aX2M)


When I saw "farfalle with prosciutto/mushroom cream sauce" I was thinking Chardonnay might be a good pairing, but I'm alcoholically unsophisticated, so I didn't pipe up.

Posted by: Emmie at February 17, 2019 04:54 PM (4HMW8)

161 Eris, we're in Germany. Commissary on an army base sucks,...


I guess it's a matter of perspective. I was in Germany doing a German job and just living Germanly when wife came over and got a civilian job with the Army. That meant petrol at American prices (yay!) and access to the PX.

The PX was like a parody of America. German grocery stores were tiny with narrow aisles. And it was all euro so you buy cheese in the cheese store and bread in the bread store and all that.

The PX had aisles twelve feet wide. The shopping carts were the size of SUVs. It seemed like a conscious propaganda attempt. "You miss America? Well here's some Fucking America!"

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 04:54 PM (fuK7c)

162 We're planning to make some of Peach's bean soup from THE BOOK. I've always liked black eyed peas for some reason and her recipe sounds delicious. A hearty bean soup should be great with the cold, wet weather predicted this week.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 04:54 PM (bmdz3)

163 One of the problems I have with winging it in the kitchen is that I often forget exactly what I did.

So, when the dish comes out great, I can't duplicate it later.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2019 04:45 PM

I have that problem with boiling eggs.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at February 17, 2019 04:54 PM (UGg7J)

164 I just can't even comprehend how you'd wind up with that much bear fat...
Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 04:51 PM (kufk0)


I didn't know you could carry that much.

http://i.imgur.com/uD4wM.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 04:55 PM (t+qrx)

165 wow...just wow. The things you read here. Not meant as an insult in anyway.
Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 04:51 PM (kufk0)

That's one of my favorite things about this place! Morons are knowledgeable, funny, and all kinds of diverse. I learn stuff.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 04:56 PM (OX9vb)

166 We contacted a butcher "up north" before bear season and asked him to save some. Heh. It is illegal to sell bear products, but the fat is considered a waste product. He got a donation for his trouble and freezer space. I have two friends with bear tags this year, so maybe...

Posted by: lurking grandma at February 17, 2019 04:56 PM (sujqA)

167 Great. Now im hungry.

Tacos and Mexican rice it is. And grub worms for the Pileated Woodpecker out the kitchen window. He is working on his third hole this week.


I probably use recipes for one or two of the 7 dinner meals I make here. Meatloaf and meatballs im going to go to my recipe file because by adding too much or little of liquid or bread crumbs the dish is going to be soup or cardboard. A lot is made on the fly since I rotate out mebe 20 dishes or so and add 4 or 5 different 'specialties' each month. Last week the girls wanted spinach lasagna which is a pain in the ass with the prep running well over an hour before assembly. But it is very good, partnered with a nice green salad. Grocery shopping /Cooking is pretty structured here as it remains a way to save consistently and remain on a budget..

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at February 17, 2019 04:56 PM (GKn0I)

168 152
Some years ago we got 300 lbs of bear fat. It took 11 days rendering it
(outside). We made lots of soap. It works well as lard for baking and
deep frying. But filtering it was difficult. I eventually discovered
that milk filters in a conical metal fruit strainer in the oven worked
well. It works for getting honey from the cappings too.

Posted by: lurking grandma

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wow...just wow. The things you read here. Not meant as an insult in
anyway. I just can't even comprehend how you'd wind up with that much
bear fat...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 04:51 PM (kufk0)

+++
It's got to be one of the most ambitious endeavors I have ever come across here.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2019 04:56 PM (aWjrD)

169 Winging it with chicken wings?

We approve.

Posted by: @TheCowzAtCFA at February 17, 2019 04:57 PM (DMUuz)

170 . . . Fifty shades of poultry . . .

(I blame Eris!)

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 04:57 PM (mUa7G)

171 Commissaries are Commissaries. They are great for the basics. And in Germany and other Euronplaces you have the local stores for the specialty stuff? But hey what do I know

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 04:58 PM (Y+V3r)

172 Gas price on base is about 3.35 per gallon. PX is okay at our base. Ramstein is better, but then, AF base so of course it is. Commissary at Ram and Spang are huge. Ours can't even keep up with basic stock.
German Real is like an upscale Wally World, but it's always hectic, and like a Wally World so I seldom go.

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:58 PM (bS3pF)

173 gotta side with olddog. I wish I had learned about using mayo instead of butter for my grilled cheese sooner...all those wasted years.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 04:58 PM (RfzVr)

174 It truly is amazing the things we learn here.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:58 PM (9L2du)

175 Well that was odd.

There was just now some kind of loud THUMP.

Like a shock wave from an explosion just hit the house and the house shook for half a second.

Just out of the blue - THUMP

Now all normal.

Any of you geeks have a legit explanation?

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM (GwY6O)

176 Wifey made some chicken thighs this week. I love chicken thighs. Well not these so much. She put brown sugar on them. I never heard of such a thing. Bleh.

Posted by: Ronster at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM (DqSCh)

177 157 this is for the gardening thread probably, but I'm going to need to do major soil amendments to be able to plant a garden this year.
Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 04:53 PM (9L2du)

what's wrong with your soil now?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 05:00 PM (BJlbN)

178 Rendered bear fat is an excellent patch lube for black powder shooting, as well as a good leather dressing.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:00 PM (DMUuz)

179 The PX had aisles twelve feet wide. The shopping carts were the size of SUVs. It seemed like a conscious propaganda attempt. "You miss America? Well here's some Fucking America!"
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 04:54 PM (fuK7c)
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*eagle screech*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 05:00 PM (kQs4Y)

180 I rarely use a recipe for much of the stuff I cook. That is because I usually limit myself to simple meals for one person. Only when I am making something like spaghetti sauce with a lot of herbs and spices to I use a recipe.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 05:00 PM (mpXpK)

181 Any of you geeks have a legit explanation?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM (GwY6O)


What state do you live in?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:01 PM (t+qrx)

182 Daughter Maegan the Virtuous is looking for savory ways to use up egg whites. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (Pzj+4)
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If by "savory" you mean not sweet, I can't help you.

But if you mean "delicious," how about making a pavlova or amaretti cookies?

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:01 PM (U5tDi)

183 (I blame Eris!)
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Shit, I blame Eris too!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 05:01 PM (kQs4Y)

184 Any of you geeks have a legit explanation?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM


IME, a boof.

Posted by: B. Kavanaugh at February 17, 2019 05:02 PM (DMUuz)

185 Hello, bluebell.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:02 PM (t+qrx)

186 votermom, well, it's been covered with weed barrier and bark for over 15 yrs. I'm sure it will need something. Dad didn't grow stuff much after mom died. And the roses have been neglected for two seasons. I will have to learn how to prune roses as well.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 05:02 PM (9L2du)

187 Natives made weatherproofing with bear fat and bees wax in north america

Posted by: lurking grandma at February 17, 2019 05:02 PM (sujqA)

188 148 - its the Botox at the brain. Gotta be
Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 04:50 PM (bS3pF)

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I've heard that can actually happen.

Apparently it happens with the eye lifts. IIRC, the toxin can get inside, and drip down the optic nerve into your brain and make you go nuts.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 05:02 PM (5aX2M)

189 Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:01 PM (t+qrx)

GA.


Never had a reported quake in my part of the state that I've ever heard of.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 05:02 PM (GwY6O)

190 Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:01 PM

The Deplorable Gourmet Editor is in the house!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:03 PM (DMUuz)

191 Just out of the blue - THUMP

Now all normal.

Any of you geeks have a legit explanation?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM (GwY6O)
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Do you have a sudden inclination to burst out singing "I like to singa?"

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:03 PM (U5tDi)

192 Is the moral of the 300 pounds of bear fat to go hunting in the spring rather than fall?

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 05:04 PM (/rm4P)

193 Just out of the blue - THUMP

Now all normal.

Any of you geeks have a legit explanation?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM (GwY6O)

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Sounds like it may have been a sonic boom. Any Mil bases nearby?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 17, 2019 05:04 PM (ffYR/)

194 weiredflunky, Maybe Stacey Abrams was in your neighborhood.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 05:05 PM (5hE5B)

195
Sounds like it may have been a sonic boom. Any Mil bases nearby?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 17, 2019 05:04 PM (ffYR/)
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Has 'it' started?

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:05 PM (MVjcR)

196 Hi there hogmartin. You survived my racist state!

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:05 PM (U5tDi)

197 GA.

Never had a reported quake in my part of the state that I've ever heard of.
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 05:02 PM (GwY6O)


Well there goes my idea. Really cold weather can sometimes make houses build up tension and then shift. But not likely in Georgia.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:06 PM (t+qrx)

198 Hi bluebell!

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:06 PM (MVjcR)

199 By savory she means food, not desserts. Thanks.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 17, 2019 05:06 PM (Pzj+4)

200
Is it dementia, I really don't know.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2019 04:49 PM


I've seen dementia tests. They key on short term memory and identification of common, easily identifiable objects. The ability to recite words with a common first letter. Like 11 of them in one minutes time.

There's no way in the world Nancy Pelosi would have a passing score. Which is only a couple wrong.

Trump aced that test. As he damn well better.

Take an example test yourself. Come up with 11 words that start with the letter 'F' in the next minute.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 05:06 PM (jYje5)

201 Now all normal.



Any of you geeks have a legit explanation?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM (GwY6O)


Co-worker had a house in her neighborhood blow up, probably because the neighbors were distilling hash oil with butane.

This is a procedure that can lead to overpressure waves

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 05:06 PM (mUa7G)

202 Sounds like it may have been a sonic boom. Any Mil bases nearby?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 17, 2019 05:04 PM (ffYR/)

I thought that too but I've never known any of the flyboys in this airspace to go super sonic. Certainly possible i guess.

Just odd.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 05:06 PM (GwY6O)

203 Congrats on the sale Infidel! Hope all goes smoothly.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 05:07 PM (RfzVr)

204 Come up with 11 words that start with the letter 'F' in the next minute.


Does it count if ten of them start with "fuck"?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:07 PM (fuK7c)

205
Daughter Maegan the Virtuous is looking for savory ways to use up egg whites. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (Pzj+4)





Chile Rellenos
Orange Chicken (at least, some recipes)

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 17, 2019 05:09 PM (juqNl)

206 93 Just out of the blue - THUMP

Now all normal.

Any of you geeks have a legit explanation?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM (GwY6O)
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We've got a recycling place near where I work. Once in a while there's a significant "Thump!" which normally means they just recycled something that contains propane.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 05:09 PM (WEBkv)

207 I am sure the three hundred pounds was several bears. You get to go hunting when it is bear season and you get a tag. Both my friends waited 11 years since their last one. The fat is easily separated from the meat. The meat is quite lean. The controversy is whether to hunt with dogs or not.


Posted by: lurking grandma at February 17, 2019 05:09 PM (sujqA)

208 204 Come up with 11 words that start with the letter 'F' in the next minute.


Does it count if ten of them start with "fuck"?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

I had a 90 yo male patient who did that on his mini cognitive test a couple years ago.

we were laughing hysterically by the end.

he passed.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:09 PM (PkVlr)

209
We've got a recycling place near where I work. Once in a while there's a significant "Thump!" which normally means they just recycled something that contains propane.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 05:09 PM (WEBkv)
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Thought propane was more of a WHUMP than a THUMP.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:10 PM (MVjcR)

210 Hi there hogmartin. You survived my racist state!
Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:05 PM (U5tDi)


Aw, I had a wonderful time. And it's not a racist state, that's just Democrats. They're also a bit rapey and infanticidal.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:10 PM (t+qrx)

211 Toast bread, butter it, place sliced cheese between slices, microwave 30 seconds. High speed grilled cheese sandwich.

Posted by: CarpeMish at February 17, 2019 05:11 PM (OUlqh)

212 The other time when I use a recipe is when I am looking through the books fr something new and different because I am tired of the same old crap all the time.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 05:11 PM (mpXpK)

213 Thought propane was more of a WHUMP than a THUMP.
Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:10 PM (MVjcR)
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Either way, we walk outside, look toward the plant, and, inevitably, there's a column of smoke.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 05:11 PM (WEBkv)

214 Toast bread, butter it, place sliced cheese between slices, microwave 30 seconds. High speed grilled cheese sandwich.
Posted by: CarpeMish at February 17, 2019 05:11 PM (OUlqh)


Bread, cheese, bread, slap hot iron to it.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (t+qrx)

215 The George Forman Grill makes perfect grilled cheese sammiches.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (MVjcR)

216 I have a go to for weeknights in a pinch or when I'm not feeling inspired. Put chic breasts in 9x13.
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Put Miracle Whip on frozen chic breasts and bake covered for a while. Then take off foil and add veggies (frozen broccoli works best) and recover. After 30 mins, take off cover and see if done. Midwestern Miracle Whip FTW.

Can't do that any more until kidlet fixes oven settings. I have ground beef defrosted and wanted to make meat loaf, but until she can do whatever with that stupid programmable thing, I guess it is plain old sauteed burgers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (MIKMs)

217 gotta side with olddog. I wish I had learned about using mayo instead of butter for my grilled cheese sooner...all those wasted years.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 04:58

I know, right? I never could get the butter ones to be like ones I'd get at the diner. So, I asked. Cook said secret is using mayo. Low-fat doesn't work. Has to be real mayo.

Funny thing, I never bought mayo. I'm a Miracle Whip guy. But after reading about the mayo wars here I bought Duke's mayo. Best grilled cheeses ever.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (Dhht7)

218 wow...just wow. The things you read here. Not meant
as an insult in anyway. I just can't even comprehend how you'd wind up
with that much bear fat...

Posted by: lin-duh
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Method:

Clean and pluck two bearsRinse thoroughly and place in large pot. . . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (Y4EXg)

219 That roast chicken looks delicious. It reminds me that it has been far too long since I've roasted one. There's so much that is great about roasted chicken - it's cheap, easy, everyone likes it, you can do lots of different things with the leftovers, and you can make stock out of the carcass. Lotta bang for the cluck. Er, buck.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (U5tDi)

220 Question for the Horde,

A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (PkVlr)

221 Sometimes I use cookbooks..to stand on so I can reach the very back of the freezer for a TV dinner so I do not starve to death..sigh, such is life

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 05:13 PM (Y+V3r)

222 I can't remember the last time someone mentioned having a Panini.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 05:13 PM (5hE5B)

223 220 Question for the Horde,

A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (PkVlr)
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Tortillas and queso dip!

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:13 PM (MVjcR)

224 Made some delicious non-recipe chicken last night. Chicken rubbed with salt, pepper, and oregano, browned both sides in a hot pan with olive oil. Yum yum yum.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM (e7Gwj)

225 Microwave is going I fear, turns off and won't come back on. We have had at least 3 in 20 years. Toasters are a fleeting appliance here as well.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM (/rm4P)

226 A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (PkVlr)

Rservations

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM (Y+V3r)

227 votermom, well, it's been covered with weed barrier and bark for over 15 yrs. I'm sure it will need something. Dad didn't grow stuff much after mom died. And the roses have been neglected for two seasons. I will have to learn how to prune roses as well.
Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 05:02 PM (9L2du)

depending on where you live, there might still be time to take off the weed barrier on the sections you want to plant in and replace it with sheets of newspapers and/ or cardboard. As it disintegrates the soil becomes really nice.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM (BJlbN)

228 Question for the Horde,

A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Hmmm, I'd just ask insomnia what his favorite food is....

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM (kufk0)

229 A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (PkVlr)
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All I know is he hates Brussels sprouts.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM (U5tDi)

230 I can't remember the last time someone mentioned having a Panini.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 05:13 PM (5hE5B)


Oh, the -i ending makes it the plural form. The singular is just Paninus.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM (t+qrx)

231 178 ... "Rendered bear fat is an excellent patch lube for black powder shooting, as well as a good leather dressing.
Posted by: Duncanthrax"

When I saw the post about the bear fat, that was my first thought. Imagine how many patches and locks could be lubed by 300 bleeping pounds of bear fat!

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM (bmdz3)

232 Tortillas and queso dip!
Posted by: Weasel

Um, gee, thanks Weasel. with or without chilies?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:15 PM (PkVlr)

233 I experimented today and made a loaf of keto bread. It uses yeast, and smelled delicious baking. Husband and I just tasted a nice warm slice slathered with butter, our optimistic expressions turned to heartbreaking disappointment, and we threw what was left of our slices in the trash.

I think I just need to learn to live without certain things, except for once in a while, and forget about substitutes. The subs are always substandard and disappointing.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 05:15 PM (OX9vb)

234 Nurse R,
Lasagna. Use marscone and ricotta, not cottage cheese.

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 05:15 PM (bS3pF)

235 nurse, something light so there's plenty of room for dessert!

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 05:15 PM (5hE5B)

236 223
220 Question for the Horde,



A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (PkVlr)

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Tortillas and queso dip!

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:13 PM (MVjcR)

Rib eye steaks and french fries.
And if you start the day before and you have an old copy of Betty Crocker make their Beef Teriyaki with rice. Only make double the amount of teriyaki sauce they have in the recipe.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 05:15 PM (mpXpK)

237 I wish I had learned about using mayo instead of butter for my grilled cheese sooner...all those wasted years.


You people -- I assume you are people, the ones I've met at MoMees are people but they're not the ones going on about using mayo on grilled cheese sammiches -- keep going on about using mayo instead of butter.

This sounds odd. It sounds appalling. But it keeps coming up as if it's a Thing. Is is really a Thing?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:16 PM (fuK7c)

238 A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?
Posted by: nurse ratched

If you have a particular recipe that everyone that has tried loves, go with that.

Otherwise, ask him what he likes.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 05:16 PM (GwY6O)

239 April,

I found a recipe for a keto bread that uses coconut flour not almond flour. My kids ate it. Give me a bit to find the site.

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 05:17 PM (bS3pF)

240 Have you gone outside yet? I've experienced a WHUMP once as an earthquake, once as a very large tree crashing to the ground next to the house, and a friend had it when a truck hit the far side of his house.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2019 05:17 PM (jOEDM)

241 Ugh, I want to cook. I love cooking. I cook for my boys all the time and it's an extension of love.

Do I go fancy, like some alaskan King salmon and crab cakes, or simple comfort food like chicken and dumplings.

I already asked. he's not particularly helpful, just like my boys.....

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:17 PM (PkVlr)

242 A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?


Reservations.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:17 PM (fuK7c)

243
Microwave is going I fear, turns off and won't come back on. We have had at least 3 in 20 years. Toasters are a fleeting appliance here as well.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM


Does it work on a low power setting? Mine starting acting flaky after an overly long defrost cycle. It came back to life after being told to go on low power setting for a few days.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 05:17 PM (jYje5)

244 Rendered bear fat is an excellent patch lube for black powder shooting, as well as a good leather dressing.

Also, I'm told, makes the best grease for pastry dough.

Useful, useful stuff, and probably why the main reason bear hunting was such a big deal for a long time. The meat and hide were just bonuses.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 17, 2019 05:18 PM (bZ7mE)

245 Do I go fancy, like some alaskan King salmon and crab cakes, or simple comfort food like chicken and dumplings.
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YES!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 05:18 PM (kufk0)

246 215 I like the George Foreman for grilled cheese, too. Also, that's how I cook bacon.

And, I wrap hot dogs with bacon and cook those on the GFG until the bacon is crispy. They're really good that way.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 05:18 PM (OX9vb)

247
depending on where you live, there might still be time to take off the weed barrier on the sections you want to plant in and replace it with sheets of newspapers and/ or cardboard. As it disintegrates the soil becomes really nice.


Western CO. Great idea. I could probably get it all done before trash day this week.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 05:18 PM (9L2du)

248 'A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?'

Whipped creme and chocolate sauce. Lots of chocolate sauce. And throw in some strawberries for the veggies.

Posted by: Yogi at February 17, 2019 05:18 PM (UdKB7)

249 232 Tortillas and queso dip!
Posted by: Weasel

Um, gee, thanks Weasel. with or without chilies?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:15 PM (PkVlr)
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Chilies on the side in a fancy bowl.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:18 PM (MVjcR)

250 Bander, I've wondered the same thing. I've seen it recommended other places besides here to use mayo for grilled cheese, and I haven't brought myself to try it yet.

Partly because one of the pleasures of eating grilled cheese is the taste of the buttery bread. How do you get that with mayo?

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:18 PM (U5tDi)

251 With chilies of course

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 05:18 PM (/rm4P)

252 seafood is tricky for a first dinner - what if they're allergic
imo

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM (BJlbN)

253 Well that was odd.

There was just now some kind of loud THUMP.

Like a shock wave from an explosion just hit the house and the house shook for half a second.

Just out of the blue - THUMP

Now all normal.

Any of you geeks have a legit explanation?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM (GwY6O)



Mole people.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM (CRRq9)

254 Do I go fancy, like some alaskan King salmon and crab cakes, or simple comfort food like chicken and dumplings.

I already asked. he's not particularly helpful, just like my boys.....


make something you like, that you think he will like, and that you won't mind making often in the future...

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM (bZ7mE)

255 Put Miracle Whip on frozen chic breasts and bake covered for a while. Then take off foil and add veggies (frozen broccoli works best) and recover. After 30 mins, take off cover and see if done. Midwestern Miracle Whip FTW.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (MIKMs)

I do this with ranch dressing, adding garlic, potatoes, green beans, mushrooms, etc. It's quite tasty if you let it caramelize a bit.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM (t0Z53)

256 252 seafood is tricky for a first dinner - what if they're allergic
imo
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books!


he's not. I was also thinking of geoduck.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM (PkVlr)

257 Oh, the -i ending makes it the plural form. The singular is just Paninus.


That may be a joke I missed, but panini is Italian. The singular is panino.

Yes, I'm a dick.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM (fuK7c)

258 Any of you geeks have a legit explanation?

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 04:59 PM (GwY6O)

low flying supersonic jet

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 05:20 PM (BJlbN)

259 Ask if he likes fish first!!!!!

If not a seafood fan then the salmon is great big negative. No no no.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 05:20 PM (GwY6O)

260 Natives made weatherproofing with bear fat and bees wax in north america





Posted by: lurking grandma at February 17, 2019 05:02 PM

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Also a very nice bug repellent when it turned rancid.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 17, 2019 05:20 PM (JUOKG)

261 Also, I'm told, makes the best grease for pastry dough.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 17, 2019 05:18 PM (bZ7mE)
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Really? I always read that bear fat tasted terrible. And smelled terrible.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:20 PM (U5tDi)

262 Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (PkVlr)

I don't remember if he's ever mentioned what he likes. Last new thing I made was French Onion sliders and they were delish, but it makes quite a bit. Pioneer Woman's Marlboro Man sandwiches are good and easy, too.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 05:20 PM (ofUYp)

263 Weasel, I'll try to find a way to send you some of the new dip I found. Bacon wrapped stuffed jalapeno pepper queso.

It has chunks of bacon in it!

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 05:20 PM (5hE5B)

264 140--- Margarita. Hot water is your friend. Just think of it as a quick sous vide prep before frying or baking. Well most of the meat in my freezer is in sealed plastic, but a ziploc bag will prob'ly work in a pinch.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 17, 2019 04:46 PM (jUcoH)
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Yes, I'll bet that's a much better way to defrost meat than with a microwave. (I gave up on THAT years ago.)




Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2019 05:20 PM (Rxduq)

265 225
Microwave is going I fear, turns off and won't come back on. We have had
at least 3 in 20 years. Toasters are a fleeting appliance here as well.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 05:14 PM (/rm4P)
I had to replace my microwave oven several months ago. I'd had it for a couple weeks when out of the blue it started beeping every twenty seconds. I unplugged it and waited about a minute, plugged it back in and it has been fine ever since. Don't know what that was all about.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2019 05:21 PM (aWjrD)

266 Oh, nurse ratched, he likes pie.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:21 PM (U5tDi)

267 263 Weasel, I'll try to find a way to send you some of the new dip I found. Bacon wrapped stuffed jalapeno pepper queso.

It has chunks of bacon in it!
Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 05:20 PM (5hE5B)
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Oh Lord!

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:21 PM (MVjcR)

268 Hi bluebell,
Mrs. JTB just sent you an email at your non-ace address.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 05:21 PM (bmdz3)

269 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor


he's already told me what he likes. I just need to decide what to cook. he sounds easy, but sometimes that makes it harder, because there are so many choices.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:21 PM (PkVlr)

270 I was also thinking of geoduck.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM 

I'll take Foods That Look Like a Penis for $500, Alex.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 17, 2019 05:22 PM (e7Gwj)

271 usgs.gov shows no earthquakes near you

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2019 05:22 PM (asM0l)

272 Thanks, JTB - I'll take a look!

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:22 PM (U5tDi)

273 Yep, the mayo gives you golden toasted bread. But you do not get the buttery flavor that a grilled cheese sandwich should have.
I cheat. I grill both sides of the sandwich until the bread just starts to get golden. I then microwave the sandwich to melt the cheese. Back in the skillet to finish it to a nice golden brown. Works every time. Gooey cheese and golden, buttery bread.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at February 17, 2019 05:22 PM (N3JsI)

274 Do I go fancy, like some alaskan King salmon and crab cakes, or simple comfort food like chicken and dumplings.



I already asked. he's not particularly helpful, just like my boys.....
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:17 PM (PkVlr)


Go get a couple of cooked and cleaned Dungeness crabs, and steam them hot in a colander over a pot of boiling water(cap it with the pot lid to keep in the steam), serve them with butter for dipping

Do a salad, garlic bread and some sort of side.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 05:23 PM (mUa7G)

275 Pie! I can make pie!

we do more fruit here in Washington. apples, berries and rhubarb.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:23 PM (PkVlr)

276 "I always read that bear fat tasted terrible. And smelled terrible. "

And it has worms. Best just stay away.

Posted by: Yogi at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM (UdKB7)

277 Hi Bluebell!

Have you ever roasted a capon? It's a nice step between hen and turkey.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM (kQs4Y)

278 So here's the latest hurdle in our quest to find a new state- food. The family is afraid they won't be able to find a decent pizza or Italian food in places like NC, SC or FL. Any truth to that?

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM (/UEI7)

279 275 Pie! I can make pie!

we do more fruit here in Washington. apples, berries and rhubarb.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:23 PM (PkVlr)
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Problemo solved. Tortillas, queso dip and pie!!

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM (MVjcR)

280 Oh, nurse ratched, he likes pie.

(I really hope everyone is referring to the same guy...)

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM (asM0l)

281 Pie! I can make pie!

we do more fruit here in Washington. apples, berries and rhubarb.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Washington or Florida..... talk about opposites.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM (kufk0)

282 Kindltot,

very good suggestion. messy though......but very tasty...

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM (PkVlr)

283 Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:21 PM (PkVlr)

Gotcha. Me, I'd make whatever he mentioned that was the easiest to make. Not too fancy, either; you wanna gradually build up to the crescendo.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 05:25 PM (ofUYp)

284 The baked bbq chicken in the oven is making me extremely hungry.

I guess the THUMP could have been the chicken trying to escape.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 05:25 PM (GwY6O)

285 On a side note, any pasta sauce that doesnt require an entire day of simmering is not true Italiano. My Calabrian grandma made that clear to us - very clear.

Posted by: Mike Mitch at February 17, 2019 05:25 PM (TRRTo)

286 That may be a joke I missed, but panini is Italian. The singular is panino.

Yes, I'm a dick.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM (fuK7c)


It was along those lines, but Latin instead because I wanted an excuse to say "paninus". It sounded a lot funnier in my head.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:25 PM (t+qrx)

287 So here's the latest hurdle in our quest to find a new state- food. The family is afraid they won't be able to find a decent pizza or Italian food in places like NC, SC or FL. Any truth to that?
Posted by: Marcus T
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Well, since Florida is just a bunch of New York/ NJ retirees I would think you can find some great Italian food there.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 05:26 PM (kufk0)

288 Nurse? I hate to talk behind a guy's back but maybe he'll show up here so I'm doing this in public as if it were to his face. He was getting pretty annoying before you showed up. Down on his luck and whatnot.

Do not fret about the food. Give him sex. Right away. Tell him it was good. Then give him more.

Then he will just be a relaxed smart and funny commenter here and that will be good for all of us.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:26 PM (fuK7c)

289 I used to make chicken pot pies, but I have trouble with making crust.

I should try again.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 05:26 PM (mUa7G)

290 Marcus T. Stepson lives in Asheville NC. There are more good restaurants in the area then you can possibly ever want. Not sure about pizza but I'm sure you can find Italian. We lived in SC for several years. The upstate. Never had problems finding pizza or Italian.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at February 17, 2019 05:27 PM (N3JsI)

291
The only thing that my wife makes which is acceptable is grilled cheese sandwiches. She *always* puts a lid over them in the pan. That seems to be the secret to getting the temperature high enough to melt the cheese. Lock in the heat.

Fortunately she has other skills beside cooking and baking.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 05:28 PM (jYje5)

292 That damn wormy bear fat catches me coming out of the shower every time.

Posted by: Boo Boo at February 17, 2019 05:28 PM (TRRTo)

293 Posted by: Bandersnatch

Bander,

We've pretty much already done that. He's very sweet. Very warm and kind. And funny as hell. We laugh a great deal and have talked for hours and hours.

The Horde was his support during a horrible time.

Thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:28 PM (PkVlr)

294 BOGO delivery pizza tonight from the local Italian chain place.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:28 PM (MVjcR)

295 220 Question for the Horde,

A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (PkVlr)

Chicken Piccata? Braciole?

Stuffed chicken breast....this is a good recipe

http://tinyurl.com/y3c8jj4w

Posted by: Tami at February 17, 2019 05:28 PM (cF8AT)

296 If you eat a lot of panini you could wind up with a pannus

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 05:29 PM (mUa7G)

297 BOGO delivery pizza tonight from the local Italian chain place.
Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:28 PM (MVjcR)


Domino's?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:29 PM (t+qrx)

298 According to my mom, my grandmother was a hell of a cook. She never measured anything when she baked, just used handfuls and spoonfuls and pinches to construct fabulous pies and cakes. Of course no recipes survive because she never wrote anything down. I only remember her as a very elderly and sick lady. I wish I had known her. I love watching a true chef in the kitchen. Plus baking is a kind of cooking I don't do very well. Son Joe must have inherited something from her because he also is a hell of a cook. He didn't learn that from me.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at February 17, 2019 05:29 PM (Vf4Y7)

299 Have you ever roasted a capon? It's a nice step between hen and turkey.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM (kQs4Y)
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I don't think I ever have, but if I did, it would have been many moons and many kids ago.

I did make Cornish hens for a dinner party once and I remember this one gal being astonished at finding a whole bird upon her plate.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:29 PM (U5tDi)

300 That roast chicken at the top just looks too good. We haven't done one of those in ages and we have the perfect cast iron pan for it. Roast chicken on a bed of jasmine or basmati rice, with slices of blood orange and steamed carrots on the side. (Okay, I'll get the drooling under control in a moment.)

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 05:29 PM (bmdz3)

301 "Posted by: never enough caffeine at February 17, 2019 05:27 PM (N3JsI)"

Thanks. Yeah I told the family you can have good pizza or low taxes and a state that respects the constitution. They were like- can we get back to you? :-)

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:29 PM (/UEI7)

302 My experience is USAF jets don't go supersonic unless it's necessary.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 05:30 PM (/rm4P)

303 Wifey made a delicious jambalaya and it was perfect but no okra.
Hard to get here.

Posted by: navybrat hates disco music at February 17, 2019 05:30 PM (w7KSn)

304 297 BOGO delivery pizza tonight from the local Italian chain place.
Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:28 PM (MVjcR)

Domino's?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:29 PM (t+qrx)
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Paisano's. There are a bunch around here. Not going to win any awards, but not bad either.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:31 PM (MVjcR)

305 I hope to hell they make some attempt to clean up the trash ridden filthy streets of Selma before the TV cameras get there. That place is an embarrassment to the state. Selma used to be a prosperous, though very racist, place. Now it's a shithole of filthy, crime, and poverty.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 17, 2019 04:15 PM (yQpMk)
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Nah, don't bother. Use the scat clean up money money to build a choo choo train somewhere where people won't use it.

Posted by: Gov. Newsome at February 17, 2019 05:31 PM (GBCiv)

306 Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:29 PM (/UEI7)

Well then for fucks sake, leave them wherever they are. We don't need there voting habits down here.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 05:31 PM (ofUYp)

307 There may be differences in the taste and smell depending on what the bears eat. There is a mild odor cooking and baking with it, some people may find unpleasant. I have never been able to taste any off flavor with it. We have made doughnuts, fritters, clam cakes, pie crust.

Posted by: lurking grandma at February 17, 2019 05:31 PM (sujqA)

308 Euro, I despise coconut. Tried one of those, too, and I could taste the coconut.

I'm just going to have some real good sourdough about once a month and be happy with that.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 05:31 PM (OX9vb)

309 nurse, If he's staying for a couple of days cater something for the first night then the both of you can cook something together after that.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 05:32 PM (5hE5B)

310
very good suggestion. messy though......but very tasty...
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM (PkVlr)


I make that for my GF because she loves that more than anything. I think she was reincarnated from a sea otter.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 05:32 PM (mUa7G)

311 I used to make chicken pot pies, but I have trouble with making crust.

I should try again.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 05:26 PM (mUa7G)
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Kindltot, you're an accomplished cook! Of course you can make pie crust. Just be sure to use a recipe with lard, not butter. Flour, salt, lard, and ice water. That's all you need.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:32 PM (U5tDi)

312 Yeah Bander, it's a thing. I've made grilled cheese sammies for over 40 years and before I knew *this one weird trick*. Tastes the same, doesn't scorch, spreads more evenly on the bread, easier to coat each side properly. Try it one time and see for yourself. What do you have to lose? 2 pieces of bread and a couple slices of cheese? Don't slather it on, just a thin coating

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 05:32 PM (RfzVr)

313 their, my God I have been doing that a lot.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 05:32 PM (ofUYp)

314 April,
The bread recipe is at ketosummit dot com
Keto lemon poppy seed mug cake. I didn't use poppy seeds
Use a blender or vitamix

The other baked loaf was a basic keto recipe that I can't find. But I switched the coconut flour and almond flour amounts and increased the baking powder by a pinch. All the wet ingredients - coconut milk, eggs - were blended in vitamix then stirred into the flours

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 05:33 PM (bS3pF)

315 "Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 05:31 PM (ofUYp)"

Relax. They're all conservatives and every male and female are shooters. A few of us just came from the range. It's just that Italians take their food very seriously.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:33 PM (/UEI7)

316 One of my Grandmother's jokes:

After the fine meal everybody wanted the cook's recipe...
"How much water do you use?"
Cook sez: "'Bout a mouthful"

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 17, 2019 05:33 PM (RuIsu)

317 Marcus, would you be bringing the good cooks in your family with you when you move? Because in that case it wouldn't matter where you live.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:35 PM (U5tDi)

318 I used to bake my own chickens - several times a week and got pretty darn good at it. Aside from the disastrous mess it made in the oven time and again, and the time it took, they were heaven. Since those days I've searched high and low for the best pre-cooked and without a doubt, Costco bakes a mean bird not just in flavor but in meat age/quality. The $5 and change process makes it unbeatable.

Posted by: Boo Boo at February 17, 2019 05:35 PM (TRRTo)

319 Tonight I am in Portland visiting mom and little sister. Boy Franpsycho and I are making them pasta primavera. Clean and simple.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 17, 2019 05:35 PM (2zFt4)

320 Kindltot, you're an accomplished cook! Of course
you can make pie crust. Just be sure to use a recipe with lard, not
butter. Flour, salt, lard, and ice water. That's all you need.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:32 PM (U5tDi)


It is hard not treating something made from flour like bread dough. *Must KNEAD*

I have a good idea what I'm doing wrong

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 05:35 PM (mUa7G)

321 Question for the Horde,

A very special person is coming to visit. What do I make for dinner?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM


A technique, when you can't come up with a solution, is to narrow the problem space by eliminating options.

Do not serve a chemjeff-cooked steak.
Do not make chili with carrots, beans, and/or tofu.

bluebell and Weasel may be able to point you toward a compendium of Horde-tested and Horde-approved recipes, from which you can make menus of scrumptious, succulent, and savory selections.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:36 PM (DMUuz)

322 Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:33 PM (/UEI7)

I will take your word for it. Didn't mean to sound rude; please accept my apologies, but we are overrun with leftist scum ( hell, even nice leftists) everywhere down here!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 05:37 PM (ofUYp)

323
bluebell and Weasel may be able to point you toward a compendium of Horde-tested and Horde-approved recipes, from which you can make menus of scrumptious, succulent, and savory selections.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:36 PM (DMUuz)
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Nurse, you DO have a copy of TDG, don't you?

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:37 PM (MVjcR)

324 Funny thing, I never bought mayo. I'm a Miracle
Whip guy. But after reading about the mayo wars here I bought Duke's
mayo. Best grilled cheeses ever.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (Dhht7)

The Power of the Moron Compels You.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 17, 2019 05:37 PM (sy5kK)

325 Nurse, you DO have a copy of TDG, don't you?
Posted by: Weasel


ummmmmm.......

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:37 PM (PkVlr)

326 "Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:35 PM (U5tDi)"

Yes mam. They are all coming and that's what I said. If we can get decent canned tomatoes, imported pasta and a decent pork store- we're good.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:37 PM (/UEI7)

327 bluebell and Weasel may be able to point you toward a compendium of Horde-tested and Horde-approved recipes, from which you can make menus of scrumptious, succulent, and savory selections.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:36 PM (DMUuz)
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Oh YEEEAAAHHH, nurse - you certainly have The Deplorable Gourmet, do you not? Problem solved. Good man, Duncanthrax.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:38 PM (U5tDi)

328 325 Nurse, you DO have a copy of TDG, don't you?
Posted by: Weasel


ummmmmm.......
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:37 PM (PkVlr)
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Uh!

bluebell!!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:38 PM (MVjcR)

329 *arches eyebrow at nurse*

Well, he does. Ask him to bring it.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:38 PM (U5tDi)

330 My experience is USAF jets don't go supersonic unless it's necessary.


Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 05:30 PM

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Actually they are not allowed to go supersonic over population centers unless they have permission or the mission requires it.


Of course there is always a "Maverick" out there.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 17, 2019 05:39 PM (JUOKG)

331 287
So here's the latest hurdle in our quest to find a new state- food. The
family is afraid they won't be able to find a decent pizza or Italian
food in places like NC, SC or FL. Any truth to that?

Posted by: Marcus T

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Well, since Florida is just a bunch of New York/ NJ retirees I would think you can find some great Italian food there.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 05:26 PM (kufk0)

The only pizza places around my town here in SC are chain places like dominoes and Pizza Hut. The Pizza Hut is OK but nothing to go wild about. The Italian place was great but alas they had a night club attached to the back of it run by the same family. They got busted for serving minors too many times and the whole shabang got shutdown.
There is an Italian place of in Florence if you like driving a long distance for supper. And it is just OK as it is also a chain. Olive Garden I think.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 05:39 PM (mpXpK)

332 Nurse, cook something you love to eat. What is the plan for the cat allergy? If you might end up having to tailgate that will affect the menu.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 17, 2019 05:39 PM (jUcoH)

333 There are recipes in The Deplorable Gourmet? I thought it was a book of drawings.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (fuK7c)

334 Nurse R,
My pa's gumbo recipe in TDG is really good! Seafood, sausage, heat...got it all

Posted by: Euro at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (bS3pF)

335 CBD - I SAW THAT!


On a side note, daughter in law was just made director of catering at an expensive private college. Go figure.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (lwiT4)

336 Costco bakes a mean bird not just in flavor but in meat age/quality. The $5 and change process makes it unbeatable.

Posted by: Boo Boo at February 17, 2019 05:35 PM (TRRTo)

Whenever I go to Costco I buy one or two. They are always cooked correctly, and they are never dry. I can handle the aggressive salting, because it works well if I make something else with the chicken, like salad, or standing over the sink gnawing on a leg, which is my favorite dish.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (wYseH)

337 I just ordered my Deplorable Gourmet Cookbook on amazon.

can I be forgiven now?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (PkVlr)

338 Now if you are moving to a location near Myrtle Beach or Charleston there are oodles of Italian places there. But the cost of living is high in those places, particularly home prices.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (mpXpK)

339
333 There are recipes in The Deplorable Gourmet? I thought it was a book of drawings.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (fuK7c)
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An art book with recipes.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (MVjcR)

340 "Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 05:37 PM (ofUYp)"

No worries and I here exactly what you're saying. We are also being careful we move into a very red place with lots of natives and none of our former neighbors. We want to die happy and free

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:41 PM (/UEI7)

341 Yes mam. They are all coming and that's what I said. If we can get decent canned tomatoes, imported pasta and a decent pork store- we're good.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:37 PM (/UEI7)
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I think you'd be able to find all that fairly easily these days. The only thing you might run into trouble with is finding a good Italian pastry shop, but you might have to resort to ordering online for special occasions.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:41 PM (U5tDi)

342 337 I just ordered my Deplorable Gourmet Cookbook on amazon.

can I be forgiven now?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (PkVlr)
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Well, ok.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:41 PM (MVjcR)

343 I used to bake my own chickens - several times a week and got pretty darn good at it. Aside from the disastrous mess it made in the oven time and again, and the time it took, they were heaven. Since those days I've searched high and low for the best pre-cooked and without a doubt, Costco bakes a mean bird not just in flavor but in meat age/quality. The $5 and change process makes it unbeatable.
Posted by: Boo Boo at February 17, 2019 05:35 PM


Buy a pellet-fired grill and some wood pellets at Costco.

Buy a young ~3.5 lb. (although I've successfully gone up to 5.5 lbs with minimal additional cook time) whole chicken.

Clean/prep the chicken. Rub with your favorite rub in and out.

Heat grill to 450 ºF. Place chicken back down on grill. Close lid.

Come back 70 minutes later to perfectly grilled chicken. You can do two at the same time, if you'd like. Moist. Juicy. Flavorful.

The. Best. Chicken. Ever.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:41 PM (DMUuz)

344 NC is full of NYers and people from NJ. Should be able to find pizza and bagels. And to continue the love affair with all things deli meat.

Posted by: NCKate at February 17, 2019 05:41 PM (JyTrc)

345 Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable

Zyrtec. he said he's be fine for a couple of days. after that we're heading to the coast.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:41 PM (PkVlr)

346 - keep going on about using mayo instead of butter.

This sounds odd. It sounds appalling. But it keeps coming up as if it's a Thing. Is is really a Thing?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:16 PM
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Yeah Bander, it's a thing. I've made grilled cheese sammies for over 40 years and before I knew *this one weird trick*. Tastes the same, doesn't scorch, spreads more evenly on the bread, easier to coat each side properly. Try it one time and see for yourself. What do you have to lose? 2 pieces of bread and a couple slices of cheese? Don't slather it on, just a thin coating

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 05:32 PM

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Bander, listen to cfo mom. She's spot on.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 17, 2019 05:42 PM (Dhht7)

347 nurse, I suggest something that is not too heavy and will not make one too lethargic. IYKWIMAITTYD ;-)

I am amazed at the self control of the Horde at this question.

Disappointed in you people.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 05:42 PM (RfzVr)

348 I have a good idea what I'm doing wrong

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 05:35 PM (mUa7G)

Yes...you aren't asking Bluebell to come over and make your pie crusts for you.

I think she is quite adept...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 05:43 PM (wYseH)

349 I am amazed at the self control of the Horde at this question.

Disappointed in you people.
Posted by: cfo mom

right?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:43 PM (PkVlr)

350 There are recipes in The Deplorable Gourmet? I thought it was a book of drawings.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (fuK7c)


Not just. There are limericks, too.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 05:43 PM (t+qrx)

351 Yeah I told the family you can have good pizza or low taxes and a state that respects the constitution. They were like- can we get back to you? :-)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:29 PM (/UEI7)

LOL, that was our experience in western WY. Not a good pizza to be found, but living there made up for it.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 05:43 PM (OX9vb)

352 Grilled cheese - rediscovering the glory of that, along with the many easy variations and additions. If you have particularly good bread, and/or an interesting cheese. Or great leftover thin sliced ham. Or interesting mustard (only thing I'll add to grilled cheese).


So easy, so damn good.


And endorse CBD's post about recipes and cooking. For many things, no need to look at any recipe, or, I readily modify recipes based on experience or personal taste. For some things, new things, complicated things - lots of recipe attention.


Also, with the web, will select 2 or 3 most appealing versions of some recipes for new (to me) things, and do a hybrid thereof.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 05:43 PM (QDnY+)

353 256
252 seafood is tricky for a first dinner - what if they're allergic

imo

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books!





he's not. I was also thinking of geoduck.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM (PkVlr)

I thought this discussion was about dinner, not what is for dessert.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 17, 2019 05:43 PM (sy5kK)

354
CBD - I SAW THAT!

Posted by: grammie winger at February 17, 2019 05:40 PM (lwiT4)


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 05:44 PM (wYseH)

355 LCD!


Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:44 PM (PkVlr)

356 Yes...you aren't asking Bluebell to come over and make your pie crusts for you.

I think she is quite adept...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 05:43 PM (wYseH)
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Wait a minute. No insults? No Red Sox jokes? You said something nice about me?

Have you been drinking?


Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:44 PM (U5tDi)

357 I am here to tell "you people" that bluebell makes one hell of a good pie.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:45 PM (MVjcR)

358 Of course there is always a "Maverick" out there.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 17, 2019 05:39 PM


Maverick was a Naval Aviator, not a pilot.

Air Force pilots are by-the-book. Like Russians, they don't take a dump without a plan.

The only way an Air Force pilot is going supersonic is if s/he is late for their tee time with the Colonel.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:45 PM (DMUuz)

359 When I win we're going to have a national conversation about meat.

So, get used to lettuce.

Posted by: Booker at February 17, 2019 05:46 PM (MAstk)

360 "Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 05:39 PM (mpXpK)"

Thank Vic. We're still fighting the pitched battle between those who want the beach and those who want to live further inland. I imagine that will make a difference

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:46 PM (/UEI7)

361 Mayo *instead of copious portions of butter* to butter the bread for grilled cheese?


What?


If there were a formal structure for considering/punishing heresies (like the Academe Francaise or whatever it is that polices use of non-French words in French), this would be a case for a show-trial.


Imagine a long row of berobed older gentlemen harumphing and giving each other "WTF??" looks.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 05:46 PM (QDnY+)

362 Nurse ratched, all kidding aside, I think you'll like TDG because it's exactly like reading here. Cooking with the Morons 101. Inside jokes and spicy language here and there, although I did edit out the f-bombs.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:47 PM (U5tDi)

363 I have a thing called Sharkman's Fridge Door Salmon Sauce that I use to bake salmon fillets. Pretty much whatever strikes my fancy in the fridge door plus garlic and butter.

Never the same from one day to the next and it has never failed me. My Kids all love it and they laugh and all three yell: "Fridge Door Salmon Sauce!" when I ask them how they'd like their fish cooked.

No recipe is the best recipe sometimes.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 17, 2019 05:47 PM (bsdd3)

364 congratulations, Infidel! Now all you need to do is go through the signing of a large stack of papers to be done.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 17, 2019 05:47 PM (Lqy/e)

365 From the last thread, cleaning coffee machines; use nickel safe ice machine cleaner from your local refrigeration supply or online. prediluted and low odor, couple of bucks a pint. use sparingly rinse thoroughly

Posted by: Lord Percy's Cracked Chamber Pot at February 17, 2019 05:47 PM (79KZ7)

366 You know, there is really only one thing you can do with chicken patties; Chicken patty parm. I used some leftover homemade spaghetti sauce (made without meat. The meat was made into meatballs, baked and added to the pasta and sauce at the end). Yummy. Green salad and fettucine alfredo to fill out the meal.

Posted by: JAS at February 17, 2019 05:47 PM (3HNOQ)

367
So here's the latest hurdle in our quest to find a new state- food. The family is afraid they won't be able to find a decent pizza or Italian food in places like NC, SC or FL. Any truth to that?

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:24 PM


I was surprised to find an incredible pizza place in Aiken, SC. Wood fired oven, dough seasoned for days. In a strip mall with pay-day loan and pawn shops all up and down the road.

Apparently personal financial management is not a big thing in the state.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 05:48 PM (jYje5)

368 I am amazed at the self control of the Horde at this question.
Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 05:42 PM


There was an entire thread of self-control last night.

Well, except maybe for Eris ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:48 PM (DMUuz)

369 I use CLR to clean my coffeemaker. It is even mentioned on the bottle of CLR, so I figure it is safe.

Posted by: JAS at February 17, 2019 05:48 PM (3HNOQ)

370 Thank you, Weasel, but it was the Stayman apples that made it good.

Staymans, not Fujis. Although I do like Fujis too, just not as much as I love Staymans.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:48 PM (U5tDi)

371 Nurse ratched, all kidding aside, I think you'll like TDG because it's exactly like reading here.


I gave a copy to Mommy for Christmas that year (together with one of the drawings). She opened it up and started reading and started arguing with one of the recipes.

That's when I knew that it worked.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:49 PM (fuK7c)

372 370 Thank you, Weasel, but it was the Stayman apples that made it good.

Staymans, not Fujis. Although I do like Fujis too, just not as much as I love Staymans.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:48 PM (U5tDi)
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Yes ma'am.

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:49 PM (MVjcR)

373 Sharkman,

I've done that! Salmon is so amazing. I will grill it and am leaning towards a raspberry, lemon, butter sauce/glaze.

I make amazing crab cakes with saffron sauce.

It's Friday during Lent, so no meat.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:49 PM (PkVlr)

374 Posted by: olddog in mo at February 17, 2019 05:12 PM (Dhht7)

The Power of the Moron Compels You.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 17, 2019 05:37 PM

Heh.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 17, 2019 05:50 PM (Dhht7)

375 I gave a copy to Mommy for Christmas that year (together with one of the drawings). She opened it up and started reading and started arguing with one of the recipes.

That's when I knew that it worked.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:49 PM (fuK7c)
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Oh, your poor Mom. God bless her. What must she think of us? I knew we shouldn't have put CBD's namesake drink on the first page.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:51 PM (U5tDi)

376 People take note: if you follow the link for the pink lady peas, you will find some interesting pea facts...and bonus link! How to make real cornbread. I approve. Carry on.

Posted by: Snowchick at February 17, 2019 05:51 PM (YauIX)

377 Staymans, not Fujis.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:48 PM (U5tDi)

Try Gravenstein apples.

Even I will eat an apple pie made from them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 05:51 PM (wYseH)

378 368 I am amazed at the self control of the Horde at this question.
Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 05:42 PM

There was an entire thread of self-control last night.

Well, except maybe for Eris ...
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:48 PM (DMUuz)

Fuck, im missed it in btwn the hot tub and the blow

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 05:52 PM (RZ6R1)

379 and Sharkman, have you contacted Mark? We have our PNWMoMe listed in the sidebar.

please get on the list! and anyone else who has an interest.

I have room at my house to keep morons for a night if you want to fly in to seattle and drive with me to yakima.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:52 PM (PkVlr)

380 Yeah pastry is a tough one. Even in the NY area the decent places are disappearing. I drove out to Brooklyn during the holidays to get some and there were people from Pennsylvania and Delaware. I was like really dude? He said he needs his holiday pastry's.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:52 PM (/UEI7)

381 Frying apples in the skillet. Butter, brown sugar, cinnamon, pinch of nutmeg. Kitchens smells sweet.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 17, 2019 05:52 PM (Dhht7)

382 Yeah, what does one do with a "cross-rib roast" (per weft's lament way above)? If it's tough even as pot roast, sounds like grinding is the only option.


Speaking of non-prestigious cuts, I've gotten to like pork blade chops. So much flavor (and fat). I believe they are used by many of the better BBQ places for the meat for their sandwiches (I mean modern west coast urban places, not REAL places like Parker's in Wilson, NC).


I "dry brined" some this week, and it worked (I think). I pan fried them instead of grilling, just for a change; some herbs on to help make a flavorful crust. Seemed quite moist. But they are fatty, which helps with that, so not sure about the dry brining (just coated them with sugar and salt and left uncovered in fridge over-night).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 05:53 PM (QDnY+)

383 Those pink lady peas look a lot like black-eye peas.
Oh yeah. bacon, onion, jalapeno black eye peas. Yum.

Posted by: JAS at February 17, 2019 05:53 PM (3HNOQ)

384 bluebell, my grandparents had a Stayman Winesap apple tree. Such good apples. Hard to find at any store, now.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 05:53 PM (OX9vb)

385
Well, except maybe for Eris ...
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:48 PM (DMUuz)

Fuck, im missed it in btwn the hot tub and the blow
Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 05:52 PM (RZ6R1)
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I knew I should have stayed up a while longer!

Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:53 PM (MVjcR)

386 It's Friday during Lent, so no meat.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:49 PM (PkVlr)

Neither a borrower or a lenter be

my raison d'etre

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 05:53 PM (RZ6R1)

387 Try Gravenstein apples.

Even I will eat an apple pie made from them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2019 05:51 PM (wYseH)
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The orchard that comes to our farmers market has all kinds, and I've tried a lot of them, all good. Really, the best pies are made with a mixture of different apples, I think.

But once the Staymans come in, which is usually mid October, I'm all about them and nothing else.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:54 PM (U5tDi)

388 "Cooking without Recipes"...also known as 'Mark is cooking tonight'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 17, 2019 05:55 PM (xJa6I)

389 I knew I should have stayed up a while longer!
Posted by: Weasel at February 17, 2019 05:53 PM (MVjcR)

LMAO

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 05:55 PM (RZ6R1)

390 Duncanthrax - indeed. I thought last night was going to end up in debauchery. Hell, I even took a nap so I'd be ready to stay up and participate. It was fun, but no debauchery, damn it.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 05:55 PM (RfzVr)

391 bluebell, my grandparents had a Stayman Winesap apple tree. Such good apples. Hard to find at any store, now.
Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 05:53 PM (OX9vb)
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They are hard to find, you're right. Everyone once in a while in the fall you can find them in the stores here, but not often.

You have to go to an apple orchard or a farmers market for them, and it's worth it.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:55 PM (U5tDi)

392 bluebell,

have you tried granny smith or honeycrisp?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:56 PM (PkVlr)

393 309
nurse, If he's staying for a couple of days cater something for the
first night then the both of you can cook something together after
that.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 05:32 PM (5hE5B)

Seriously, nurse, THIS.
Let's look at the schedule. He will have spent at least 6 hours in the air, after 2 hours of leaving home and the airport nonsense, and then arriving to see you in person.

Go to a restaurant on the first evening. You two have some catching up to do. One of many ideas here in Seattle is Salty's on Alki. Good food, good service, and the great view. Reserve a window view seat. You are looking at downtown Seattle your entire meal, because of the geography.


And you two can be at your house in about 10 minutes when you leave.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 17, 2019 05:56 PM (sy5kK)

394
I haven't had a good dry rub since I was a teenager.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 05:56 PM (jYje5)

395 Stayman apples - mentioned this here before, one of my favorites, including the cider (un-pasteurized, which as of a few years ago was still available on-site, bought at the source, after VA banned it otherwise). Have never cooked with them. Don't see them out here in Occupied Mexico, of course.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 05:56 PM (QDnY+)

396 I believe they are used by many of the better BBQ places for the meat for their sandwiches (I mean modern west coast urban places, not REAL places like Parker's in Wilson, NC).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 05:53 PM


I do not understand how "better BBQ places" can be used in conjunction with "modern west coast urban places".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 05:57 PM (DMUuz)

397 t's Friday during Lent, so no meat.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:49

Well, if it's really special I'll give you special dispensation from the meat restriction. My uncle was a priest so I am learned in these things.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 17, 2019 05:57 PM (Dhht7)

398 Corny or not, if someone is coming cross country to see me, I'd try to serve something with a local flavor.

Chicken in Seattle? Nah.

Seafood. Or Bigfoot steaks marinated in moonbat tears.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2019 05:57 PM (Rxduq)

399 bluebell, do the Staymens come with a pestle?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 05:58 PM (5hE5B)

400 360 Thank Vic. We're still fighting the pitched battle
between those who want the beach and those who want to live further
inland. I imagine that will make a difference

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 05:46 PM (/UEI7)


Florence, SC is a good compromise. It is fairly close to the beach without the insane property values. They are higher than here, but still within reason. But on a good weekday you can drive to the beach in about an hour. Forget it on Fri or Sat though. The traffic is horrendous.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 05:58 PM (mpXpK)

401 bluebell,

have you tried granny smith or honeycrisp?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:56 PM (PkVlr)
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Yep and yep, and I like them both. Really, I like just about any apples except Red Delicious. I can't stand those. They have no taste. Same with Yellow Delicious. False advertising.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:58 PM (U5tDi)

402 bluebell I think the Staymans/cider that was a fall staple for me in DC for years came from a farm in WV - guy drove a truck into DC every Saturday. This was before farmer's markets were very common, and before they fixed up Eastern Market.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 05:58 PM (QDnY+)

403 i gave up being Catholic for Lent one year...

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 17, 2019 05:58 PM (NQJ+w)

404 Seafood. Or Bigfoot steaks marinated in moonbat tears.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille


my moonbat tear sauce is exquisite.
as is my soiboy saute

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:59 PM (PkVlr)

405 OK, that's it.

>>> It's Friday during Lent, so no meat.

My ass.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 06:00 PM (RfzVr)

406 Thank Vic. We're still fighting the pitched battle between those who
want the beach and those who want to live further inland. I imagine that
will make a difference
=====

Youngest kidlet was checking out apartment prices in Houston. She is still stuttering in awe (we are stuck in IL for a bit). I was thinking of WI, but she is absolutely stunned at how inexpensive TX is.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 17, 2019 06:00 PM (MIKMs)

407 Duncananthrax, read again - I was *contrasting* the west coast places with the "real" places back-south/southeast. Just saying some of the pork sandwiches are quite good, and apparently they often use meat from blade chops.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:00 PM (QDnY+)

408 371 ... She opened it up and started reading and started arguing with one of the recipes.....

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 05:49 PM (fuK7c)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2019 06:00 PM (Rxduq)

409 If McCabe and Rosenfuck were antique dealers, they would be selling coke bottles out of the back of a dodge van

Schmucks X 1000

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 06:00 PM (RZ6R1)

410 I've been to Florence, SC. Once.

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2019 06:00 PM (Pqytn)

411 "Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 05:48 PM (jYje5)"

I figure with all he people moving it's going to be spotty like that. We went down to southern Georgia and they took us to a pretty decent Italian place. Before we got there everyone looked at each other like maybe we should go for BBQ. But we were surprised

Posted by: Marcus T at February 17, 2019 06:00 PM (/UEI7)

412 Lent isn't til next month, Easter is late this year.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:01 PM (ofUYp)

413 Jefferson's Ocean is worth the cost.

I have tried it and continue to buy it. You can actually taste a slight salty briney hint when sipping it. Very nice bourbon.

Posted by: Izapole at February 17, 2019 06:02 PM (D5XRv)

414 Just cooked a pork loin roast in the instant pot.

Quite excellent!

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 17, 2019 06:02 PM (TN1P5)

415 Ash Wednesday is on March 6.

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2019 06:02 PM (Pqytn)

416 410
I've been to Florence, SC. Once.


Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2019 06:00 PM (Pqytn)

Like most large urban areas the city is shit. But there are good subdivisions outside the city limits.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 06:02 PM (mpXpK)

417 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

two and a half weeks till Ash Wednesday. March 6.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:03 PM (PkVlr)

418 404---soiboy saute
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 05:59 PM (PkVlr)
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Perfect!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2019 06:03 PM (Rxduq)

419 there a an acceptable variance on this lent shit

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 06:03 PM (RZ6R1)

420 I believe Red Delicious were one of the first "engineered" foods, product of one or more universities in WA or OR, after the war. Logistically friendly, has other commercially advantageous characteristics.


Not all such engineered stuff is bad, some is outstanding. Like ollalieberries - a blackberry/raspberry hybrid invented by Oregon State years ago (as I recall).


Morons familiar with CA's beautiful central coast may know about Linn's, an incredible bakery/restaurant in Cambria. Signature product is ollalieberry pie. You can imagine how good it is.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:03 PM (QDnY+)

421 there a an acceptable variance on this lent shit
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Don't be Catholic maybe...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:04 PM (kufk0)

422 17 days 'til Ash Wednesday. Make your reservations ... today!

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2019 06:04 PM (Pqytn)

423
Once you get to a certain age Lent no longer applies. I think it's 60ish.

Or 2 X 29 plus two.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 06:04 PM (jYje5)

424

Also, with the web, will select 2 or 3 most appealing versions of some recipes for new (to me) things, and do a hybrid thereof.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 05:43


That's what I did with my pulled pork recipe. Still wasn't right and made notes. It's pretty damn good now. Do it in the crock pot.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 06:04 PM (9L2du)

425 Seriously, nurse, THIS.
Let's look at the schedule. He will have spent at least 6 hours in the air, after 2 hours of leaving home and the airport nonsense, and then arriving to see you in person.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 17, 2019 05:56 PM (sy5kK)


Well said. Plus traveling 6 hours to wind up three hours behind local time. A nice dinner with someone else doing the prep and cleanup is less distracting and less to worry about.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 06:05 PM (t+qrx)

426 Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:03 PM (QDnY+)

I am familiar with Linns.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 17, 2019 06:05 PM (fxYNS)

427 Please get on the list! and anyone else who has an interest.

I have room at my house to keep morons for a night if you want to fly in to seattle and drive with me to yakima.

Posted by: nurse ratched


Thanks for the tip about the sidebar link. I just emailed Mark a second ago.

I live in Mukilteo and would be happy to rent a big van for the day and collect up all the Seattle area morons for the drive down. The more the merrier!

Posted by: Sharkman at February 17, 2019 06:06 PM (bsdd3)

428 Gonna have to start writing down bourbon notes. Desiring to up my game, but keep forgetting what I read and what I'm told.


Hey CBD - not sure if you would be cob for this, but how about a one-time Bourbon Thread? Sort of like the Fishing Thread - something that might not merit regular status, but certainly worthy of occasional attention.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:06 PM (QDnY+)

429 I had left over tri-tips from last night for lunch and then some boursin and crackers to snack on afterwards. Still full. I feel like eating something like oatmeal for dinner...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:06 PM (kufk0)

430 Our local farmers market has both stayman and winesap apples in the fall. For an apple lover like me it's as bad as a kid in a candy store. In a way, the scarcity of these apples in grocery stores keeps them a seasonal treat and special.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 06:06 PM (bmdz3)

431 Anyone here every tried Julian apples? Sweet.

Posted by: JAS at February 17, 2019 06:07 PM (3HNOQ)

432 My preference in an apple pie is tart apples. Granny Smith's are nearly always available and are a standard.


One of my favorites is an old Winesap apple. Tart as all get out. Many of the apple orchards in Wenatchee/Cashmere/Leavenworth have gotten rid of them, however, and grafted the newer varieties, the Honeycrisps, the Fujis, the Galas, and the other super sweet apples you find in grocery stores today. The new varieties are started in the lab, and then grafted onto the trunks of existing tree stock. Pretty interesting to see how it is done.


Gravensteins were used for applesauce and apple butter by my Mom and Grannie.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 17, 2019 06:07 PM (sy5kK)

433 Infidel, so do I! (pulled pork in the slow cooker) It's so easy, and SO good. And so cheap (I buy the pork shoulders when they're more than 50% off the regular price, which seems fairly often).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:07 PM (QDnY+)

434 420 Morons familiar with CA's beautiful central coast
may know about Linn's, an incredible bakery/restaurant in Cambria.
Signature product is ollalieberry pie. You can imagine how good it is.





Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:03 PM (QDnY+)


Too bad it is in CA halfway between SF and LA on the coast. Talk about insanely high property values, not to mention insane politics.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 06:07 PM (mpXpK)

435 I misread something upthread; I thought nurse said she couldn't make a meal with meat because of Lent, and that Insomniac was coming in a few days!
I need to get something to eat myself, I am a hot mess on this thread.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:08 PM (ofUYp)

436 CaliGirl! Was thinking of you of course as I wrote those words, just haven't seen you around much for a while.


Mmmmm. Not even hungry right now, but a piece of Linn's ollalieberry pie sounds perfect.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:08 PM (QDnY+)

437 I have access to vast quantities of yellow delicious apples. They are good for making apple wine. I am fermenting about 20 gallons of various apple wines this year. I had a friend with a winesap tree, but he could not control the insects, and cut it down.

Posted by: lurking grandma at February 17, 2019 06:08 PM (sujqA)

438 McIntosh, Spys, and Jonathans for me. Old school is the best school.

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2019 06:09 PM (Pqytn)

439
West coast Dungeness crab is excellent. Used to be able to get it on the east coast before Obama was precedent. Then all sorts of restrictions and capture limits was placed on it.

Maybe see it here for a two week period once every year. Sad.

My preference of all the crabs.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 06:09 PM (jYje5)

440 I misread something upthread; I thought nurse said she couldn't make a meal with meat because of Lent, and that Insomniac was coming in a few days!
I need to get something to eat myself, I am a hot mess on this thread.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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Thinking myself about dropping by a BBQ shop down the road.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,m etc. at February 17, 2019 06:09 PM (U2TY5)

441 Hey CBD - not sure if you would be cob for this, but how about a one-time Bourbon Thread? Sort of like the Fishing Thread - something that might not merit regular status, but certainly worthy of occasional attention.


Posted by: rhomboid


A whisky thread. Bourbon, scotch, rye and true corn likker.

True corn likker = homemade, no taxes paid. Not that "fake" moonshine you can buy in the liquor store.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:10 PM (LDbTO)

442 Cambria is a darling little town. I remember a store Sharon Lovejoy had there called Heartsease. Many years ago, though.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:10 PM (ofUYp)

443 Tammy,

Insom told me what a wonderful supporter you have been of his over the years.

You are not a mess.

Thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:10 PM (PkVlr)

444 I smoked a salmon fillet yesterday. It was/is like candy. Today I'm smoking pork belly. I bought it sliced at Costco, which means smaller chunks that are more manageable than a big slab of it.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still weirdly happy at February 17, 2019 06:11 PM (JgA4k)

445 Pro-tip fellow Catholics: The Sundays in Lent are not part of the 40 days. So, if you give up something you like for Lent, to mortify and discipline the body, Sundays are a feast day. Enjoy.


Posted by: JAS at February 17, 2019 06:11 PM (3HNOQ)

446 Vic, the politics in that area isn't quite as insane as elsewhere here, and the property prices I'll leave to CaliGirl - I'm sure they're far above 15 years ago, but probably still nothing like the hyper-inflated markets.


JAS - you mean Julian as in Julian? They have their own variety? Thought golden delicious was (and I mean "was" - thought most of the orchards were gone) the standard variety up there.


But to answer your question, as a kid, Manzanita Ranch. Visited many times.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:11 PM (QDnY+)

447 Crap. It's Sunday. No Chick-fil-A. :-(

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:11 PM (LDbTO)

448 Too bad it is in CA halfway between SF and LA on the coast. Talk about insanely high property values, not to mention insane politics.
Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 06:07 PM


San Luis Obispo, the 'home' of Santa Maria style BBQ is in there, too.

They do ok with the oak-fired Tri-Tip. The small pink beans named pinquitos are the bomb, however.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:11 PM (DMUuz)

449 WOHHOOOOO!!!!!

Just found out I'm going to be a grandfather again.

This will be #6 and the first for my daughter, our youngest.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 17, 2019 06:12 PM (T09ml)

450 CaliGirl, so good to see you. How is your kitty?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 06:13 PM (5hE5B)

451 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,m etc. at February 17, 2019 06:09 PM (U2TY5)

That sounds soooo good! It's a 50mile roundtrip to any food place for us..... well, about 20 for a gas station that has sandwiches next to the live bait; I'm sure you are familiar with the type of establishment!

We were going to have ribeyes, but someone fell asleep and I don't have the heart to wake him.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:13 PM (ofUYp)

452 WOHHOOOOO!!!!!

Just found out I'm going to be a grandfather again.

This will be #6 and the first for my daughter, our youngest.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL


Congratulations!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:13 PM (LDbTO)

453


Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:07 PM (QDnY+)


Yes, that's why having a large freezer is so nice. As is a food saver.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 06:14 PM (9L2du)

454 Congratulations, TANSTAAFL. Best wishes to your daughter and the new one!

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2019 06:14 PM (Pqytn)

455 Hey CBD - not sure if you would be cob for this, but how about a one-time Bourbon Thread?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:06 PM (QDnY+)
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Oh, he's the right cob for this.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 06:14 PM (U5tDi)

456 Yeah, I meant Julian as in San Diego County just north of Cuyamaca Rancho State Park. Manzanita Ranch has a familiar sound it. For me it's been over 30 years, but yes. The Julian apple was small, red and very, very tasty.

Posted by: JAS at February 17, 2019 06:14 PM (3HNOQ)

457 I'm not even hungry, and this talk (some of it mine) is getting me there.


Duncananthrax had to mention red oak fired tri-tip, and pinquitos.


I'm pleased with the low/slow gas grill treatment I do with tri-tip now (one with a dry rub, one usually marinated), but I'd forgotten about pinquitos. Have to see if I can find a recipe.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:14 PM (QDnY+)

458 After the prisoners left Andersonville during the end of the Civil War many were sent to Florence SC and set up in the exact same camp as Andersonville was.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 06:15 PM (/rm4P)

459 Cooking without recipes from the site that produced a cook book.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 06:15 PM (5hE5B)

460 Ohmy. That picture of the pink peas at the link just flicked the drrrooool machine on. Like that belongs on the Sunday dinner table or the fish fry potluck. Mmmmm.

Posted by: Terry at February 17, 2019 06:15 PM (Lw1Ru)

461 420
I believe Red Delicious were one of the first "engineered" foods,
product of one or more universities in WA or OR, after the war.
Logistically friendly, has other commercially advantageous
characteristics.





Not all such engineered stuff is bad, some is outstanding. Like
ollalieberries - a blackberry/raspberry hybrid invented by Oregon State
years ago (as I recall).



Marionberries. I believe created in Oregon many years ago. Like giant blackberries, and sweeter and juicier.


Fresh Marionberries, smashed up and piled on vanilla ice cream. OMG!


Marionberry pie. OMG!


Marionberry jam. OMG!

Touch mine and you will learn the alternative meaning of OMG!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 17, 2019 06:15 PM (sy5kK)

462 Congratulations, TANSTAAFL

that's awesome!

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:15 PM (PkVlr)

463 I love how the horde is planning insomnurse's romantic dinner

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 06:15 PM (BJlbN)

464 Great news There Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch.

Posted by: JAS at February 17, 2019 06:16 PM (3HNOQ)

465 And what a fine cookbook it is!

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2019 06:16 PM (Pqytn)

466 insomnurse's
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LOL!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:16 PM (kufk0)

467 A whisky thread. Bourbon, scotch, rye and true corn likker.

True corn likker = homemade, no taxes paid. Not that "fake" moonshine you can buy in the liquor store.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:10 PM


The good stuff, American (bourbon, et.al) and Irish, are whiskey. The other stuff is whisky.

bluebell put effort into making sure this was done correctly in TDG, and, in addition to The Horde penchant for both precision AND accuracy in all things, we should honor the dedication, zeal, and love she (and Weasel) put into it, not least because of the upcoming Vol II.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:16 PM (DMUuz)

468 TANSTAAFL, congrats!!!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 06:17 PM (BJlbN)

469 WOHHOOOOO!!!!!

Just found out I'm going to be a grandfather again.

This will be #6 and the first for my daughter, our youngest.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 17, 2019 06:12 PM (T09ml)
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Wonderful! Congratulations all around.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 06:17 PM (U5tDi)

470 JAS I'm back in SD, but I'd never heard about a Julian variety before. Will have to check into that. The orchards you could see from 78 (?) are mostly gone, I think. Some wineries now, and of course a craft brewery, along with the pie places (original plus one imitator). Occasionally drop by the pie place, will have to ask where they get their apples.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:17 PM (QDnY+)

471 I love how the horde is planning insomnurse's romantic dinner
Posted by: votermom


Moon Pie and an RC Cola for dessert.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:17 PM (LDbTO)

472 Congratulations TANSTAAFL!!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:17 PM (kufk0)

473 446
Vic, the politics in that area isn't quite as insane as elsewhere here,
and the property prices I'll leave to CaliGirl - I'm sure they're far
above 15 years ago, but probably still nothing like the hyper-inflated
markets.





JAS - you mean Julian as in Julian? They have their own variety?
Thought golden delicious was (and I mean "was" - thought most of the
orchards were gone) the standard variety up there.





But to answer your question, as a kid, Manzanita Ranch. Visited many times.



Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:11 PM (QDnY+)

The current "median property values" are $464/sf. But I never have like median prices which are halfway between the lowest trash property and the highest mansion price. I suspect the average price is much higher. Anything over $200/sf is insane in my book.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 06:17 PM (mpXpK)

474 not least because of the upcoming Vol II.
Posted by: Duncanthrax


oh, you're going to hell for that one.......

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:17 PM (PkVlr)

475 and no, i don't care how great the article is: NFW am i going to click on an NYT link...

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 17, 2019 06:17 PM (NQJ+w)

476 Duncanthrax, you know I have an honest-to-goodness tactical spork shiv now, right? It was a gift from Hrothgar.

Just mentioning it.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 06:18 PM (U5tDi)

477 LCD, believe those berries are named for Marion County, where they must have been hybridized.


Residents of DC during the glorious days of the crack wars, however, will always chuckle at the term "marionberry". For other reasons.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:19 PM (QDnY+)

478 One of many ideas here in Seattle is Salty's on Alki. Good food, good service, and the great view. Reserve a window view seat. You are looking at downtown Seattle your entire meal, because of the geography.


And you two can be at your house in about 10 minutes when you leave.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

I have never been impressed with Salty's on Alki.

My suggestion would be a little place called The Alibi Room which is right behind the Pike Place Fish Market, or even better, Aqua by El Gaucho which is right on the "new" waterfront.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 17, 2019 06:19 PM (+BKF+)

479 The good stuff, American (bourbon, et.al) and Irish, are whiskey. The other stuff is whisky.


That comes from a Gaelic word that's something like "Ouiske", (Looking things up is cheating), which means 'water of life'. That's the same as Aquavit (Scandi) and Eau de Vie (Frog) and some other languages for what to call holy shit we just discovered distilled spirits.

I think when this came up before someone said it was also true of Vodka.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 06:20 PM (fuK7c)

480 I like the idea of a bourbon and/or whiskey thread as a once in a while thing. Besides being a fun topic, trying to explain why certain brands appeal might make me appreciate my preferences.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 06:20 PM (bmdz3)

481 I'm pleased with the low/slow gas grill treatment I do with tri-tip now (one with a dry rub, one usually marinated), but I'd forgotten about pinquitos. Have to see if I can find a recipe.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:14 PM


If you've got a Costco near you, you can get cryopak prime "Sirloin Cap steak" for

Rub and cook it like tri-tip. Tri-tip is hit (and mostly) miss here in Central Texas.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:21 PM (DMUuz)

482 478 One of many ideas here in Seattle is Salty's on Alki. Good food, good service, and the great view. Reserve a window view seat. You are looking at downtown Seattle your entire meal, because of the geography.


And you two can be at your house in about 10 minutes when you leave.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

I have never been impressed with Salty's on Alki.

My suggestion would be a little place called The Alibi Room which is right behind the Pike Place Fish Market, or even better, Aqua by El Gaucho which is right on the "new" waterfront.
Posted by: Sharkman

been to all those spots.

If we were going out the first night, it would probably be to Palisade in Magnolia. Much better than Salty's, and the view is similar.

We are going out with Mark and his wife the next night. And I want to cook for him. I really REALLY want to cook for him.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:21 PM (PkVlr)

483 Here at chez rat, the orchard I inherited dates from around 1900. My friends uncle typed a bunch, one, Gloria Mondi is a HUGE apple, can't hardly eat one off the tree, but dang, bakes up nice!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 06:21 PM (LOq4H)

484 You can't go home again because it changes while you are gone.
I took my wife for walk in the "hills" just north of Pacific Beach. When I was a kid there were square miles of undeveloped land. I remember on spot in a ravine where there was a couple of tall palm threes. Not anymore. Housing developments as far as the eye can see.

They only exist in my mind now.

Posted by: JAS at February 17, 2019 06:22 PM (3HNOQ)

485 449 "Just found out I'm going to be a grandfather again.

This will be #6 and the first for my daughter, our youngest.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL"

Wonderful news. Congratulations

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 06:23 PM (bmdz3)

486 Hiya Rat!

I want some of those apples!

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:23 PM (PkVlr)

487 I like the idea if a visitor from some other part of the country was coming to make something from your area.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 06:24 PM (/rm4P)

488 Just remembered, no work tomorrow!!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:24 PM (kufk0)

489 18-car pileup at Daytona.

Posted by: Vendette at February 17, 2019 06:25 PM (9/vGE)

490 Posted by: lurking grandma at February 17, 2019 05:09 PM (sujqA)

Unfortunately if you live in an upper Midwest state, bear hunting with hounds can result in wolves devastating the pack of dogs. They're focused on the treed bear and never have a chance.

Posted by: clutch at February 17, 2019 06:25 PM (kiSdp)

491 Hiya Nurse! I can make that happen!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 06:25 PM (LOq4H)

492

g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2019 06:26 PM (KCxzN)

493 Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 05:58 PM (U5tDi)

Red delicious apples fresh off the tree, and until about 3 days later are about the best apples you can get.

Posted by: clutch at February 17, 2019 06:27 PM (kiSdp)

494 18-car pileup at Daytona.
Posted by: Vendette



In the parking lot or on the track?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:27 PM (LDbTO)

495 Bander all I know is "vodka" literally is a diminutive of water, so "little water". Water is "voda" (va-DAH).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:28 PM (QDnY+)

496 Hiya , Alton

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 06:28 PM (5hE5B)

497 Here at chez rat, the orchard I inherited dates from around 1900. My friends uncle typed a bunch, one, Gloria Mondi is a HUGE apple, can't hardly eat one off the tree, but dang, bakes up nice!
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 06:21 PM (LOq4H)
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Wow, lucky you with an orchard! Do you harvest all the apples? Sell them? I've never heard of a Gloria Mondi apple but it sounds great.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 06:28 PM (U5tDi)

498 In the parking lot or on the track?



Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:27 PM (LDbTO)


On the track with 9 laps to go and now 9 cars are left. Everyone involved looks to be OK, though.

Posted by: Vendette at February 17, 2019 06:29 PM (9/vGE)

499
(tips hat)

hey, Ben Had

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2019 06:30 PM (KCxzN)

500 Duncanthrax, you know I have an honest-to-goodness tactical spork shiv now, right? It was a gift from Hrothgar.

Just mentioning it.
Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 06:18 PM


I know you saw me staring death in the eyes deciding to chance taking Ace home from the TxMoMe, yet I must admit to a certain frissance here.

Nonetheless, I have no doubt that when duty calls you will answer.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:30 PM (DMUuz)

501 82
478 One of many ideas here in Seattle is Salty's on Alki. Good food,
good service, and the great view. Reserve a window view seat. You are
looking at downtown Seattle your entire meal, because of the geography.





And you two can be at your house in about 10 minutes when you leave.





Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg



I have never been impressed with Salty's on Alki.



My suggestion would be a little place called The Alibi Room which is
right behind the Pike Place Fish Market, or even better, Aqua by El
Gaucho which is right on the "new" waterfront.

Posted by: Sharkman



been to all those spots.



If we were going out the first night, it would probably be to
Palisade in Magnolia. Much better than Salty's, and the view is
similar.



We are going out with Mark and his wife the next night. And I want to cook for him. I really REALLY want to cook for him.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:21 PM (PkVlr)


Agree with everyone about restaurants. But Salty's is the closest one to nurse rached's home. If you catch my drift.... of course you do, you are all Morons!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 17, 2019 06:31 PM (sy5kK)

502 Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:10 PM (PkVlr)

Aw, you hug him real good for me! He is well worth supporting, that is for sure. I am delighted that you have brought him such joy. Thank YOU!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:31 PM (ofUYp)

503 Duncan it's interesting - and to me surprising in this day of nationalized/homogenized/universalized stuff and products in the USA, that tri-tip is apparently still not that easy to find everywhere.


In looking around online recipes, I notice the authors usually say something like "ask your butcher if he can do some tri-tips for you".


In SoCal (at least now - 40 years ago, doubt it) it seems tri-tip is as standard as New York Strip steaks or porterhouse. It's always there. As with almost everything else, I wait until deep discounted prices to buy, buy and cook 2 at a time.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:31 PM (QDnY+)

504 Wow, lucky you with an orchard! Do you harvest all the apples? Sell them? I've never heard of a Gloria Mondi apple but it sounds great.
Posted by: bluebell

According to friends Unc, whoever selected the apples knew their stuff. Have a selection that starts end of July and ripen till Oct. (Yellow Transparent, early, to Russet, Swaar late.)

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 06:32 PM (LOq4H)

505 18-car pileup at Daytona.
Posted by: Vendette at February 17, 2019 06:25 PM


I saw (and barely missed being involved in) a 10-car pileup along the seawall of South Beach, caused by a young lady walking along the sidewalk.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:32 PM (DMUuz)

506 We and the neighbor also make a boat load of cider in the fall, this year, 30+ gal.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 06:33 PM (LOq4H)

507 Wow, Rat!

I may have to bring the young ratched's out to help you with a work party to earn a box of your apples!

would be awesome to see your family orchard.

*waves across sound*

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:34 PM (PkVlr)

508 Duncan,
The Costco in South Austin always seems to have tri-tip. I got some yesterday for the first time. It was prime, so well marbled.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:34 PM (kufk0)

509 We and the neighbor also make a boat load of cider in the fall, this year, 30+ gal.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp


Hard cider?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:34 PM (LDbTO)

510 Ratched,
How old are your boys?

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:36 PM (kufk0)

511 Some rat, sounds great - an orchard designed to yield fruit over several months.


I'm hoping to re-establish a small citrus orchard of sorts here. Just a few off-beat types - yuzu, blood organge, key limes - stuff that is either hard to get or much better fresh. Have a fantastic meyer lemon right now. And of course need a Sta Theresa lemon (variety used in most limoncello, though I make a killer meyer lemon version), and valencias for juice, and persian limes for drinks and cooking, and ....

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:36 PM (QDnY+)

512 Posted by: nurse ratched

Neighbor picks a weekend in Oct. it's quite the social event.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 06:36 PM (LOq4H)

513 Hard cider?
Posted by: rickb223

Both. (hic)

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 06:37 PM (LOq4H)

514 lin-duh - how you going to cook the tri-tip?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:37 PM (QDnY+)

515 Bander, was it you who talked about clearing the mice out of your uncle's cider press and making cider?

I remember asking you if you cleaned it with bleach before you made the cider and I further remember thinking I wish I hadn't asked that.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 06:37 PM (U5tDi)

516 Uses for cheap roasts. Minimal trimming and then I chop mine into bite-sized pieces and sous vide them for 24 hours (or more). Then add to tomato puree and spices to make the best chili ever. I keep using cheaper and cheaper roasts, and it still comes out great because the long cooking liquifies the connective tissue without overcooking the meat.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 17, 2019 06:38 PM (S+f+m)

517 The Costco in South Austin always seems to have tri-tip. I got some yesterday for the first time. It was prime, so well marbled.
Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:34 PM


Good to know Sadly, the Cedar Park never seems to, and the 183 one hasn't had it the relatively few times I've been in lately.

OTOH, Cedar Park had 'Wagyu' briskets in two weeks ago. I smoked one, and it was good.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:38 PM (DMUuz)

518 lin-duh - how you going to cook the tri-tip?
Posted by: rhomboid
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I braised it in red wine with carrots, onions, and some herbs.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:38 PM (kufk0)

519 Both. (hic)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp




Nice.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:38 PM (LDbTO)

520 Our nurse is sealing the deal, folks. She has already wowed him with her beauty, kind heart and, uh, various other talents; high-quality home cooked meals are the pièce de résistance. I sense another wedding coming on......

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:39 PM (ofUYp)

521 Isn't Miley and Publus next to the altar?

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:40 PM (kufk0)

522 lin-duh, sounds great. I've only ever done low/slow over heat (with smoke, though not in a smoker). But given the nature of the cut, braising should be perfect too.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:42 PM (QDnY+)

523 Linvilla Orchards used to have the Winesaps, my fave for eating. Didn't know they were good in pie. Insomniac and nurse hooked up?

Posted by: kallisto at February 17, 2019 06:42 PM (+J//Q)

524 Our nurse is sealing the deal, folks. She has already wowed him with her beauty, kind heart and, uh, various other talents; high-quality home cooked meals are the piece de resistance. I sense another wedding coming on......
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor



Admiral Ackbar has given up and quit trying.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:42 PM (LDbTO)

525 Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:40 PM (kufk0)

I would think so. I am just giddy with all the romance in the air here.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:43 PM (ofUYp)

526 510 Ratched,
How old are your boys?
Posted by: lin-duh

almost 22 and 18.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:43 PM (PkVlr)

527 Bander, was it you who talked about clearing the mice out of your uncle's cider press and making cider?


It was. That's a deep childhood memory so who knows what's true.

The thing for people who aren't bluebell is that there were outdoor grinding thingies (I'm pretty sure that's the technical term) for turning apples into apple mush in New Hampshire. Uncle took us to a yard with a few of them and they were all stopped up with straw and mice living in the straw.

So we cleared out the mice and the straw and the mice poop and started making cider. We're talking 60s and I'm less than 10.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 06:43 PM (fuK7c)

528 Tammy,
Maybe there should be a singles/hook up thread one night...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:43 PM (kufk0)

529 I would think so. I am just giddy with all the romance in the air here.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

Could be the flu. (I kid!)

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 06:44 PM (LOq4H)

530 521 Isn't Miley and Publus next to the altar?
Posted by: lin-duh


^^^^^^^^

THIS

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:44 PM (PkVlr)

531 Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:42 PM (LDbTO)

Resistance truly is futile when it comes to nurse ratched. Hell, if I were single I'd marry her myself based on the sound of that lemon raspberry sauce for the salmon...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:45 PM (yrZmO)

532 For some reason, I always thought your boys were younger, like mid teens.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:45 PM (kufk0)

533 AoSHQ Grindr app - #twoweeks

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 06:45 PM (LDbTO)

534 I have a picture of my Mother and three of her 7 sisters stomping grapes in a big vat.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 06:46 PM (5hE5B)

535 Insomniac, like all 'Rons, gives great foot-rubs, FWIW.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:47 PM (DMUuz)

536 532 For some reason, I always thought your boys were younger, like mid teens.
Posted by: lin-duh

the older one boomeranged after college. he works full time, but hasn't struck out on his own yet.....

and I have a high school senior. Heading to Boise State University in the fall. mechanical engineering. already got a partial academic scholarship.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:47 PM (PkVlr)

537 Tammy,
Maybe there should be a singles/hook up thread one night...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:43 PM (kufk0)


Seems to be working well so far.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 06:48 PM (9L2du)

538 Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:43 PM (kufk0)

Some of these men are hard cases. My darling Country Boy, for instance, seems oblivious to even the most pointed hints!
But I have been pushing for a sort of dating thread for a long time! If not a thread, at least a little wheelin' and dealin' in the comments!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:49 PM (yrZmO)

539 Wow - quick search reveals I can buy pinquitos beans at a store I can almost literally see from my kitchen. They're only commercially grown in the central coast area.


The "redoubt" strategy is becoming a little more clear. In that one little area not far from my house, there are few good craft breweries, a new-ish good gun store, a lead bullet maker, a Home Depot, and a very good butcher shop where I can even get pinquitos beans.


We can hunker down right here and eat/drink/shoot our way through the Burning Times.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:49 PM (QDnY+)

540 Isn't Miley and Publus next to the altar?
Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:40 PM (kufk0)


I don't know. The board says NOW SERVING: C82.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 06:50 PM (t+qrx)

541 yall don't understand what a gift it is to even be here.

seattle is the belly of the beast. it is truly impossible to have a conversation with someone of my/our political persuasion. all the "celebrate diversity" bullshit aside, this is a very hostile area.

the HQ is a safe haven. the Horde are good people.

thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:50 PM (PkVlr)

542 Bander all I know is "vodka" literally is a diminutive of water, so "little water". Water is "voda" (va-DAH).

Which makes perfect sense when alcoholism is your national sport.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2019 06:50 PM (x/2Z8)

543 Do we know how old Insom's kid are?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:51 PM (yrZmO)

544 Tammy,
Country boy is good with kids and not in the creepy way. He was great with my 3 at the TxMoMe.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:51 PM (kufk0)

545 The "redoubt" strategy is becoming a little more clear. In that one little area not far from my house, there are few good craft breweries, a new-ish good gun store, a lead bullet maker, a Home Depot, and a very good butcher shop where I can even get pinquitos beans.
We can hunker down right here and eat/drink/shoot our way through the Burning Times.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 06:49 PM


But ... California.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:51 PM (DMUuz)

546 Tammy, Country Boy isn't that hardened. Some gal is going to find him here pretty soon.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 06:51 PM (5hE5B)

547
Bander all I know is "vodka" literally is a diminutive of water, so "little water". Water is "voda" (va-DAH).

Little Water played the harmonica.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2019 06:52 PM (aKsyK)

548 the HQ is a safe haven. the Horde are good people.

thank you.
Posted by: nurse ratched

A freaking men...

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 06:52 PM (LOq4H)

549 ... at least a little wheelin' and dealin' in the comments!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:49 PM


There are Daywalkers who think that is a mild description of the ONT.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:53 PM (DMUuz)

550 548 the HQ is a safe haven. the Horde are good people.

thank you.
Posted by: nurse ratched

A freaking men...

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp

Seconded.

Posted by: Infidel at February 17, 2019 06:53 PM (9L2du)

551 There are Daywalkers who think that is a mild description of the ONT.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:53 PM (DMUuz)


Some of the things I hear about the ONT make me wonder if I'm reading a different site than they are.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 06:54 PM (t+qrx)

552 I'd marry her myself based on the sound of that lemon raspberry sauce for the salmon...


That's one of my favorite reverse engineered recipes. Remember nouvelle cuisinne? It was an 80s thing and two of it's major artifacts were small servings and you put the fish on top of the sauce.

Well there was a restaurant on Nantucket that served a fish on two sauces, one was garlic and butter and the other was some sort of raspberry vinaigrette. I figured out that I could just saute some raspberries with some garlic and add balsamic toward the end and it would come off as a fancy cooking technique.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 06:54 PM (fuK7c)

553 lin-duh your children are delightful.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 06:54 PM (5hE5B)

554 There are Daywalkers who think that is a mild description of the ONT.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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I started in the ONT's and thought daywalkers were standoffish...hahaha!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:54 PM (kufk0)

555 Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 06:51 PM (5hE5B)

It's not so much that he is hardened against relationships, it's that two fine ladies have all but spelled their interest out to him and he seems oblivious. Well, he did finally realize dimuse was interested, but decided the drive to Chicago from Ft Worth would be too hard on his ass. Le Sigh.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:55 PM (yrZmO)

556 I started in the ONT's and thought daywalkers were standoffish...hahaha!
Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:54 PM (kufk0)
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Mostly we daywalkers are just old and can't stay up that late.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 06:56 PM (U5tDi)

557 lin-duh your children are delightful.
Posted by: Ben Had
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You must be talking about someone else's kids...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 06:56 PM (kufk0)

558 Mostly we daywalkers are just old and can't stay up that late.
Is that why you organize MoMes that run until midnight?

Posted by: Panhandler at February 17, 2019 06:57 PM (BdkLu)

559 555 Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 06:51 PM (5hE5B)

It's not so much that he is hardened against relationships, it's that two fine ladies have all but spelled their interest out to him and he seems oblivious. Well, he did finally realize dimuse was interested, but decided the drive to Chicago from Ft Worth would be too hard on his ass. Le Sigh.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

I saw that, too!

WTH! it's worth it to have someone to talk with. and get to know. and laugh, and tease, and cry.

distance is not the be-all-and-end-all.

for crying out loud.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:58 PM (PkVlr)

560 Hi Panhandler! Believe me, I was up past my normal bedtime. But I think we left there about 10:30 - and you were already gone! You were probably already on the ONT, right?

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 06:58 PM (U5tDi)

561 Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 06:54 PM (fuK7c)

O do remember nouvelle cuisine! Half the food and quadruple the price!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:59 PM (yrZmO)

562 but decided the drive to Chicago from Ft Worth would be too hard on his ass.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 06:55 PM


Love Field to ORD. This is known, at least until Donkey Chompers kills air travel.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:59 PM (DMUuz)

563 My dad tried once.

Something went wrong. When he opened the bucket, it was unspeakably rancid, and a cloud of horrible spores came out. It gave my friend a wicked fungal infection in his lungs.

Never tried a second time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 04:36 PM

Reminds me of the book I'm reading, 'The Royal Art of Poison: Filthy Palaces, Fatal Cosmetics, Deadly Medicine, and Murder Most Foul'. (The title says it all.) Oftentimes the worst, quickest-acting poisons were inhaled. Think anthrax.

Bon Appetit everybody!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 17, 2019 06:59 PM (zmIJL)

564 bluebell. Texas time, it was 11:30 but whose counting.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 07:00 PM (5hE5B)

565 You were probably already on the ONT, right?

I left about 10 and got on the site for a while because my internal clock was still on CST.

Posted by: Panhandler at February 17, 2019 07:00 PM (BdkLu)

566 You must be talking about someone else's kids...

Posted by: lin-duh

Heh, one day my very frustrated father looked at his mob, shook his head, "If I had it to do over, I would have raised pigs."
sigh, the man had a way with works, sniff.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 17, 2019 07:00 PM (LOq4H)

567 Gun thread is up.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 07:01 PM (t+qrx)

568 As a purveyor of the ONT mostly seems its a east coast west coast thing. About the time I get up anywhere from 3am on its a calling it a night one after one.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 07:01 PM (/rm4P)

569 Posted by: nurse ratched at February 17, 2019 06:58 PM (PkVlr)

Exactly!

And they could meet in Little Rock or some such a few times, and probably should anyway.

I could chaperone!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 07:01 PM (yrZmO)

570 Well, he did finally realize dimuse was interested, but decided the drive to Chicago from Ft Worth would be too hard on his ass. Le Sigh.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor



I made that drive from Dallas 6 times. In all honesty, it is a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 07:01 PM (LDbTO)

571 Mostly we daywalkers are just old and can't stay up that late.
Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 06:56 PM


I can't speak to the second clause, but the first is bogus. Early thirties isn't old, it's just getting started.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 07:02 PM (DMUuz)

572 Stopping in late . That chicken on top looks like it would be delicious!

Want to thank Farmer for his grandma's cookie recipe that he submitted to TDG. They are very good, thank you!

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 17, 2019 07:02 PM (7Lklb)

573 Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 06:59 PM (DMUuz)

Or that. Good grief, life is for living.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 07:03 PM (yrZmO)

574 Now off to read the content and comments

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 17, 2019 07:04 PM (7Lklb)

575 DUNC, WHADDYA MEAN "EARLY THIRTIES?" I'M 29, DAGNABBIT!

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2019 07:05 PM (U5tDi)

576 Don't let anyone tell you bluebell doesn't know how to party.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 17, 2019 07:08 PM (5hE5B)

577 Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2019 07:01 PM (LDbTO)

Pretty much highway most of the drive, and relatively flat and straight, no?

Not saying it isn't a fair distance, but it's not like he'd be doing it all the time.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 07:10 PM (yrZmO)

578 >>>Mostly we daywalkers are just old and can't stay up that late.

Naps are your friend.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 17, 2019 07:13 PM (RfzVr)

579 The only 'recipe' you need is for chemistry cooking, aka: baking. Everything else is about flavoring and cooking to the appropriate (done) temperature.

Posted by: steve walsh at February 17, 2019 07:13 PM (vf96M)

580 food related:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-
17/can-zombie-deer-disease-kill-humans-
research-suggests-it-already-has

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 17, 2019 07:18 PM (NQJ+w)

581 "The seller wasn't much help (she was a Vermont hippy, barefoot, probably stoned, and certainly a socialist). "

Now, that was funny

Posted by: Psycho Chicken at February 17, 2019 07:37 PM (RE8Ho)

582 463 I love how the horde is planning insomnurse's romantic dinner

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 06:15 PM (BJlbN)

Wait...I've missed this! I'm missing a lot of stuff on here lately.

Ok, somebody dish on this story.

Posted by: Tami at February 17, 2019 07:53 PM (cF8AT)

583 Damnit... I got here late.

I'll read through the whole thing tomorrow.

Posted by: Slapweasel at February 17, 2019 07:56 PM (Ckg4U)

584 Mole people.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2019 05:19 PM (CRRq9)

Do they have " the mark of darkness?"

Posted by: Subterranean Sumerian Civilization at February 17, 2019 07:58 PM (5FQVt)

585 James Keiller & Son, Dundee Marmalade. If you've not had this,you haven't had marmalade. My favorite since childhood and I'm 28 9/10s !

Posted by: Nick Danger,Third Eye at February 17, 2019 08:41 PM (c1JKE)

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