Saturday Evening Movie Thread 02-09-2018 [Hosted By: Moviegique]


"Okay, campers, rise and shine and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cold out there today!"

"It's cold out there every day. What is this, Miami Beach?"

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Most iconic clock since Harold Llyod in "Safety Last".


We had just re-viewed The Wizard of Oz and John Carpenter's The Thing which, by themselves, speak to different (and often more effective eras of special effects), and which also reflect intense care in every shot, scene or sequence, and when Groundhog Day rolled around this Thursday, The Boy and I were interested—but not really excited—to go see it. (Around here, Groundhog Day is considered to be part of a trilogy with Edge of Tomorrow and Happy Death Day.)

Modestly received in 1993, with a box office sandwiched between Grumpy Old Men and Free Willy, this story of a weatherman forced to relive the same day over and over has grown in stature over time. Sometimes, of course, this happens from mere nostalgia but a close re-view shows that, like, The Thing and The Wizard of Oz, the moment-by-moment attention to detail that makes a good movie great.

This could've been a hacky rip-off of It's A Wonderful Life, but two plot points elevate it: one by its absence and one by its presence. The absent plot point was a detail in the original script where Phil's curse is revealed to have been placed on him by an embittered ex-girlfriend. Without that, we are left to see it as a punishment/gift from God—a chance for redemption. In fact, when Phil has his first sincere night with Rita, he tells her that he fell in love with her at first sight, and in that moment realized that who he was was not good enough for her. The "curse" can seen to be self-inflicted from that point.

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In Stephen King's novelization, Phil slowly turns into an actual groundhog.


The second point happens right after that scene, when after finding true love and sincerity, Phil wakes up on the exact same day. In other words, love—not even "true love"—is not enough to redeem him. He needs to extend this love out to the world. He needs to be that person he wants to be, and have that be enough.

Huge points to Harold Ramis (who has a cameo as a doctor, just like Jon Favreau in Elf, making me wonder if this is some kind of bone thrown to Jewish mothers of actors) for cutting the curse scene, and for recognizing something a little more divine in the overall arc.

Obviously, though, this movie is powered by Bill Murray's performance. After a disastrous plunge into serious drama—The Razor's Edge, which he negotiated by agreeing to be in Ghostbusters—Murray
began to put more dramatic depth into comedic roles. For a while, his signature role was "The Jerk Who Gets Redeemed", beginning with Scrooged and sorta wearing out its welcome with Larger Than Life (one of two elephant-based films of the year), but finding something akin to perfection here.

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Power by Murray...and Tobolowsky, of course.


Phil Connors is deeply unlikable when we meet him. At his worst, Murray's smarminess can seep into what should be sincere moments—in my opinion, a weakness of the original Ghostbusters—but here, he's in full command of it. When he first sees Rita, he falls in love with her, but his way of dealing with people is by being a jerk, which is not a tactic that's going to work with her. His arrogance is so severe, that he cannot accept the smallest kindness gracefully, as when Rita puts him up in the B&B instead of the "fleabag hotel". (This isolation from the rest of his crew, Rita and Larry, is a good dramatic move as well.)

By turns, we see Phil go from arrogance to fear to a maniacal kind of anger to sly manipulation which, when it fails in his approaches to Rita, leads to despair, apathy and repeated suicides. (As The Boy noted, "Feel good movies can get really dark!"). At no point, though, do we get any sense from Murray-the-actor that he feels like he's above the material, or see the kind of compulsive clowning and defusing of potentially strong drama. In fact, after Phil's first near-miss with Rita, his desperate attempts to "be fun" feel almost like Murray self-parody.

Freed of any distractions, Phil begins to discover the world—and other people. And, while he pines for Rita, he's ultimately happy in serving others in his never-ending series of "now"s. Again, Murray's sincerity wins out and, by the end, even some of his signature smarmy moves come across as genuine, which is a hell of a feat. In fact, I don't wonder if the fact that he is less identified with a certain style of comedy today than he was 30 years ago is part of what makes the movie better with time (cf. Edward G. Robinson's performance in The 10 Commandments).

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French poetry? Should've stuck with Nancy.


Beyond Murray, the supporting cast is perfect. I have noted in the past that Rita is the weak link—I mean, she majored in 19th century French Poetry and visibly disapproves of Phil because she always drinks to World Peace—but whatever limitations Andie MacDowell has an actress, she manages to make some insufferable characteristics charming. The World Peace thing, for example, looks to be less about disapproving of Phil for drinking to the groundhog, and more about his insincerity.

Chris Elliott as Larry is, I think, kind of a reminder that even if we're not all as bad as Phil, we all have our own kinds of arrogance and interest in having others love us more than we wish to love them in return. Stephen Tobolowsky's Ned Ryerson—whose performance Ramis struggled mightily to rein in—is also one of those characters that would challenge the best of us to be generous and gracious, but in the context of the movie, that makes him more than just comic relief.

The movie never tries to tell us people are perfect, overly good or smart, but that they are worthy of being treated well nonetheless—and we are all served by doing so. And it does this without losing sight of the need to be funny and entertaining, and not preachy.

This, from the guy who directed Caddyshack and Vacation. It's definitely worth a re-watch.

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R.I.P., buddy. There'll never be another good "Ghostbusters" movie.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 07:10 PM




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1 !

Posted by: JT at February 09, 2019 07:06 PM (ejTiV)

2 Hiya !

Posted by: JT at February 09, 2019 07:06 PM (ejTiV)

3 Popcorn time

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2019 07:07 PM (/rm4P)

4 Evening all.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 07:07 PM (IcJtd)

5 Have to say it took a couple of showings for me to like then love Groundhog Day, and I haved liked Bill Murray a long time.

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2019 07:10 PM (/rm4P)

6 Divine Comedy is watching PDT troll Pocahontas and AOC on Twitter. Just minutes apart.

Posted by: jmel at February 09, 2019 07:10 PM (OeWgo)

7 Just re-watched this with my youngest, who wanted to see it because she had heard so many references to it. Time well spent.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at February 09, 2019 07:11 PM (Nrxta)

8 I'm not a huge Caddyshack fan, but love Groundhog Day and What About Bob?

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:12 PM (e7oj4)

9 I have been posting about this in other threads, but here it is actually on topic.
I have recently discovered DUST on YT. Short Sci Fi movies made on tight budget by students and independents.
Some are good, some are bad, and some really stuck with me. All are around 25 minutes or less. (ADD friendly!)

This one was a current favorite. Could easily be a full length film or 3 built in this universe.
The Leap
https://tinyurl.com/ycmw6ab4

Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 07:12 PM (LL1Be)

10 Divine Comedy is watching PDT troll Pocahontas and AOC on Twitter. Just minutes apart.

I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called "Carbon Footprint" to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 09, 2019 07:13 PM (9O8yT)

11 #10 that was a quote of a PDT tweet.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 09, 2019 07:13 PM (9O8yT)

12 It's definitely worth a re-watch.

==

Great review, Moviegique. Will do. I will be watching for first time, though.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:15 PM (bUjCl)

13 BTW, Fenelon Spoke, Frederick the Great's army also sang "Now Thank We All Our God" after the bloody Battle of Leuthen giving it an alternate name, the Leuthen Chorale.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2pulq4l

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Battle_of_Leuthen
See "Aftermath" section.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (Evws/)

14 ''I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called "Carbon Footprint" to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!''

That's a plus for them.. we should have nothing cuz we be a bad, bad country with bad, bad peoples.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (jm1YL)

15 No cows means no milk. No milk means no cheese. Wisconsin isn't having it. My bride just asked me to teach her to shoot. She has never touched a gun. Yeah babe, I got you.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (IcJtd)

16 Chris Elliott

Whatever happened to that guy?

Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (LL1Be)

17 I saw this movie for the first time just a few weeks ago and liked it a lot. Bill Murray was great. Andie Macdowell was not well-cast. There was no chemistry there.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (EZebt)

18 That's a plus for them.. we should have nothing cuz we be a bad, bad country with bad, bad peoples.
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (jm1YL)

We're a downright mean country, dontcha know.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (NWiLs)

19 Dammit I read the content.

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (8erNz)

20 10 that was a quote of a PDT tweet.


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at February 09, 2019 07:13 PM (9O8yT)

nice!

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:17 PM (n13/j)

21 What did you think of the Suspiria remake?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:17 PM (PUmDY)

22 Groundhog Day. One of my favorites. We watch it every February.
I like going on line to sites that analyze the number of times he was required to do the same day. Some are very high numbers.
It really is a rebirth and redemption movie. And funny as heck.

Posted by: RI Red at February 09, 2019 07:18 PM (p4fBk)

23 So many favorite scenes in "Groundhog Day"'.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:18 PM (jm1YL)

24 16 Chris Elliott

Whatever happened to that guy?
Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (LL1Be)

--Hilarious on Everybody Loves Raymond. After that, no clue.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:18 PM (e7oj4)

25 Really love Groundhog Day. It is a tradition in our house - like watching Planes, trains and automobiles at Thanksgiving. Good write-up about it, too.

Posted by: Old Hamp at February 09, 2019 07:18 PM (RBFmA)

26 I can't believe how many times I have seen this movie. It has to be 20. There is some irony in that I guess. It is on a lot. Not Armageddon a lot, but a lot.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:18 PM (n13/j)

27 I saw this movie for the first time just a few weeks ago and liked it a lot. Bill Murray was great. Andie Macdowell was not well-cast. There was no chemistry there.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (EZebt)

Where was she well-cast ? Which movie ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:19 PM (bUjCl)

28 Maybe Mabelline ads

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:20 PM (PUmDY)

29 There has been many a artical on the length of time of Groundhog Day.

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2019 07:20 PM (/rm4P)

30 Chris Elliott



Whatever happened to that guy?

Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (LL1Be)



--Hilarious on Everybody Loves Raymond. After that, no clue.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:18 PM (e7oj4)

He did Something about Mary. I think that was after Raymond, but it would be close to that time.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:20 PM (n13/j)

31 Harold Ramis redefined the modern movie comedy, mostly as a writer, but also by directing and acting"

Animal House
Meatballs
Caddyshack
Stripes (we're 10 and 1!)
Ghostbusters
Back to School
Ghostbusters
Analyze This

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (1UZdv)

32 27 she tried hard and she had pretty hair. That*s all she had tho!

Posted by: Cheribebe at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (fnWQo)

33 Where was she well-cast ? Which movie ?
Posted by: runner
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Hudson Hawk? Four Weddings and a Funeral?

Posted by: lin-duh at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (kufk0)

34 17 I saw this movie for the first time just a few weeks ago and liked it a lot. Bill Murray was great. Andie Macdowell was not well-cast. There was no chemistry there.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (EZebt)

She also has no acting chops. None.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (NWiLs)

35 I'm probably the only person who didn't mind Andie McDowell in that movie

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (jm1YL)

36 Groundhogs are nothing but overgrown prairiedogs. Trust me.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (zLDYs)

37 Caddyshack, Vacation, Blazing Saddles - golden era of comedy. Groundhog Day can be thrown in there as well even though it came over 10 yrs later.
"Don't drive angry!!!"

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (2PRiy)

38 He did Something about Mary. I think that was after Raymond, but it would be close to that time.


Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:20 PM (n13/j)

His Raymond role was later.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:22 PM (n13/j)

39 ''Stripes (we're 10 and 1!) ''

That one was the funny.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:22 PM (jm1YL)

40 Don't get the Annie McDowell dislike. If she were a perfect hottie, it would just make Murray's falling in love a shallow, gotta get the hot broad movie.

Posted by: RI Red at February 09, 2019 07:22 PM (p4fBk)

41 Her daughter was decent in the Leftovers.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:22 PM (PUmDY)

42 Bruce Lee had acting chops.

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 07:23 PM (786Ro)

43 I saw Groundhog Day in an actual theater in the olden days.

When people were people and content to be so.

No one had yet heard of Ingsoc, Big Brother or Herr Mueller and beer was still served in pints instead of liters.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 09, 2019 07:23 PM (Z+IKu)

44 Fooey

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:24 PM (PUmDY)

45 5 Have to say it took a couple of showings for me to like then love Groundhog Day, and I haved liked Bill Murray a long time.
Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2019 07:10 PM (/rm4P)
-------------------------
Same here.
It's almost as if you have to see it over and over before it really sinks in!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 07:24 PM (Rxduq)

46 9 for 11, or 9-1 and 1!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 09, 2019 07:24 PM (Evws/)

47 She is beautiful model; was sort of acceptable in Greencard. ( That was her, right ? )

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:24 PM (bUjCl)

48 Caddyshack, Vacation, Blazing Saddles - golden era
of comedy. Groundhog Day can be thrown in there as well even though it
came over 10 yrs later.

"Don't drive angry!!!"

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (2PRiy)

I agree. However, Groundhog Day had deeper, almost religious tones and symbolism. It reminds me of Joe Vs. the Volcano in that way. Of course Joe was a much less successful film.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:25 PM (n13/j)

49 Bruce Lee had acting chops.
Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 07:23 PM (786Ro)


Sure did !

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:25 PM (bUjCl)

50 ''Don't get the Annie McDowell dislike. If she were a perfect hottie, it would just make Murray's falling in love a shallow, gotta get the hot broad movi''

I thought she came across as a very pretty lady who has no idea how pretty people think she is, in other words normal. Just a nice person.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:25 PM (jm1YL)

51 She was in St. Elmo's Fire.
Wow.



Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 07:25 PM (LL1Be)

52 There was a short film, based on a short story, called 12:01 PM starring Red Foreman/Kirkwood Smith that came out in 1990. It's pretty much the same idea as Groundhog Day, except it's more of a horrifying scenario. I recall at some point that Harold Ramis appears in the background, so that's where he got (stole) the idea for Groundhog Day.

You can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVooyfaPYD8

Posted by: Jim S. at February 09, 2019 07:26 PM (ynUnH)

53 She was really bad in sex, lies.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:26 PM (PUmDY)

54 I'd rather have a liter of beer than a pint.

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at February 09, 2019 07:26 PM (Dgce0)

55 He did Something about Mary. I think that was after Raymond, but it would be close to that time.
Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:20 PM (n13/j)

--That was right before his role in Everybody Loves Raymond.

Also, Cabin Boy is an underrated comdy gem.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:26 PM (e7oj4)

56 Depardieu did all the work.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:26 PM (bUjCl)

57 Ned? Ned Ryerson!

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:26 PM (+Tibp)

58 She was in St. Elmo's Fire.




Cameo. I think she played a ....model ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:27 PM (bUjCl)

59 Chris Elliott
Whatever happened to that guy?
Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 07:16 PM (LL1Be)

"Cabin Boy" is what happened.....

Oh, the horror.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 09, 2019 07:27 PM (Z+IKu)

60 35 I'm probably the only person who didn't mind Andie McDowell in that movie
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (jm1YL)

--No, you're not.

She just had to be nice and hittable, that's it.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:27 PM (e7oj4)

61 Jonah Goldberg loves Ground Hog Day - every thing he's for I'ma ginst!

By the way - what separated classic old 30's Selznek productions and today's "classics" was the lost art of framing photography - directors insisting on the practice from the turn of century and then forgotten in the late fifties - with the exception of David Lean.

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:27 PM (32YRo)

62 He did Something about Mary. I think that was after Raymond, but it would be close to that time.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:20 PM (n13/j)



--That was right before his role in Everybody Loves Raymond.



Also, Cabin Boy is an underrated comdy gem.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:26 PM (e7oj4)
Some funny scenes there for sure.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:27 PM (n13/j)

63 Ok, gonna rewatch tonight. After I hear about the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: RI Red at February 09, 2019 07:28 PM (p4fBk)

64 42 Bruce Lee had acting chops.


So did his son, Brandon.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 07:28 PM (WNAuL)

65 Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:25 PM (n13/j)

Agreed. Andie MacDowell was pretty solid in Muppets from Space

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 07:28 PM (2PRiy)

66
She was in St. Elmo's Fire.









Cameo. I think she played a ....model ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:27 PM (bUjCl)

doctor. I forgot about that.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:28 PM (n13/j)

67 I don't mind Andie in the movie - can't think of who I would prefer.

You are right about the religious overtones in the movie. I have used clips from it as sermon illustrations.

Posted by: Old Hamp at February 09, 2019 07:29 PM (RBFmA)

68 " directors insisting on the practice from the turn of century and then forgotten in the late fifties - with the exception of David Lean. "

*Ahem*

Posted by: Zombie Stanley Kubrick at February 09, 2019 07:29 PM (1UZdv)

69 She was also in Multiplicity with Michael Keaton

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 07:29 PM (2PRiy)

70 By the way - what separated classic old 30's Selznek productions and today's "classics" was the lost art of framing photography - directors insisting on the practice from the turn of century and then forgotten in the late fifties - with the exception of David Lean.
Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:27 PM (32YRo)

Julie Taymor. You know who she is ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:29 PM (bUjCl)

71 doctor. I forgot about that.
Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:28 PM (n13/j)

oh, ah.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:30 PM (bUjCl)

72 I like her jobs plan- guaranteed income even for people who can't or won't work.

Space cadet, we already have your jobs program. It's called gov't employment!

As for Groundhog Day- love it. Always felt it was a deep movie. The lack of chemistry with Andie McDowell (or her lack of stage presence or something) puts my entire focus on Bill Murray and I get deeply into it.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2019 07:30 PM (Ee+Sn)

73 By the way - what separated classic old 30's Selznek productions and today's "classics" was the lost art of framing photography - directors insisting on the practice from the turn of century and then forgotten in the late fifties - with the exception of David Lean.
Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:27 PM (32YRo)

--What do you mean?

Not being snarky, just genuinely curious as someone interested in screenplay/direction.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:31 PM (e7oj4)

74 St Vincent was a good Bill Murray movie that came and went and that they don't play on TV.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:31 PM (2DOZq)

75 I can't take modern movie cinematography - cut off heads, unfocused people or edges, squeezed frames that don't convey any beauty or thought - just ugh.

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:31 PM (32YRo)

76 I'd rather have a liter of beer than a pint.

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at February 09, 2019 07:26 PM (Dgce0)

A liter of cola.

Posted by: Farva at February 09, 2019 07:32 PM (n13/j)

77 Dammit, UVA, stop Barrett!

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:32 PM (e7oj4)

78 Chris was in an early Fox show where he played a 30+ year old paper boy living with his parents (His actual dad played his dad "We're on a fixed income.) It was absurd and really enjoyable.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:32 PM (+Tibp)

79 Bill Murray's character begins by indulging himself (because there's no consequences), then tires of that and despairs, trying to commit suicide. Eventually he just tried to make everyone's day as nice as possible, even knowing it didn't mean anything and would reset the next day. The problem is that he would have tired of this as well if he didn't think it had some ultimate value. Otherwise, it's just arbitrary. Why not spend the day trying to kill as many people as you can? There's no non-arbitrary reason to prefer one over the other since neither has any ultimate meaning.

Posted by: Jim S. at February 09, 2019 07:32 PM (ynUnH)

80 Murray did a better than average job in The Razor's Edge.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:33 PM (2DOZq)

81 Chris Elliott was absurdly funny.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:33 PM (PUmDY)

82 I thought she came across as a very pretty lady who has no idea how pretty people think she is, in other words normal. Just a nice person.

I like this description.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2019 07:34 PM (Ee+Sn)

83 I can't take modern movie cinematography - cut off heads, unfocused people or edges, squeezed frames that don't convey any beauty or thought - just ugh.
Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:31 PM (32YRo)


Agree. Horrible stuff. Flat, one dimensional. Actors, always starring into the camera. No mise en scene - but that is on the actors too. Most of them can't act.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:34 PM (bUjCl)

84 There were two scenes in 1981 movies that caught the zeitgeist that the USA was moving out of its post-Vietnam funk.

One was Bill Murray exulting that "we're 10 and 1" i Stripes.

The other was when Indiana Jones faces off against the sword-wielding Arab giant, and then nonchalantly pulls out his gun and shoots him dead.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 07:35 PM (1UZdv)

85 Murray did a better than average job in The Razor's Edge.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation

I kinda liked Razor's Edge. I liked his speech about his brother's character, Brian Doyle Murray ( who played his Dad in Scrooged). "He will not be missed."

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:35 PM (+Tibp)

86 Blutarski, the Dad was really funny

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:35 PM (PUmDY)

87 Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:32 PM (+Tibp)

Married with Children and Get a Life made Sunday nights bearable

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 07:36 PM (2PRiy)

88 The problem is that he would have tired of this as well if he didn't think it had some ultimate value.

He has decided it's of value to him.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2019 07:36 PM (Ee+Sn)

89 79 Bill Murray's character begins by indulging himself (because there's no consequences), then tires of that and despairs, trying to commit suicide. Eventually he just tried to make everyone's day as nice as possible, even knowing it didn't mean anything and would reset the next day. The problem is that he would have tired of this as well if he didn't think it had some ultimate value. Otherwise, it's just arbitrary. Why not spend the day trying to kill as many people as you can? There's no non-arbitrary reason to prefer one over the other since neither has any ultimate meaning.
Posted by: Jim S. at February 09, 2019 07:32 PM (ynUnH)

Curious are you an atheist? Altruistic actions have no ultimate value.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:36 PM (2DOZq)

90

That about sums it up for me.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 07:36 PM (LkFnL)

91 I have often felt Andi was the weak spot, but she's better than I recall. She's good in Green Card, as I recall.

Posted by: Moviegique at February 09, 2019 07:36 PM (CKkRA)

92 Murray did a better than average job in The Razor's Edge.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:33 PM (2DOZq)

I liked it. It prompted me to get the book.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 07:36 PM (n13/j)

93 There were two scenes in 1981 movies that caught the zeitgeist that the USA was moving out of its post-Vietnam funk.



I think that Reagan and 1980 Olympic Hockey team had something to do with the mood..but we digress...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:37 PM (bUjCl)

94 Not seeing any movies on tonight worth watching

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2019 07:37 PM (/rm4P)

95 "Security," w/ Antonio Banderas & Ben Kingsley.

Just awful awful.
How do a thousand people work for months
on this and not ever realize what
a ridiculous turd they're making?

How do the producers find fools stupid
enough to put millions of dollars into shooting it?

Where does Kingsley get the balls
to mouth the embarrassingly clownishly pompous
crap they wrote for him?

Because this movie was made,
the whole world is a far worse place.
It opened an unclosable pit to Hell
from which foul cacodemons and noxious vapors
will forever issue.

In the old days when movies were on film,
there was always the slim hope that all
copies could be tracked down and destroyed.
But in the digital world, this excretion
will persist, no matter how
hard we try to eradicate it,
at least until the sun mercifully explodes.

Posted by: gp at February 09, 2019 07:37 PM (mk9aG)

96 Abbott and Costello go to Mars on Svengoolie. Blech

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:38 PM (+Tibp)

97 The art of framing a shot or a picture meant thinking about each scene or "the shot", the principle of the shot is given a proper angle - unneeded elements of the shot are focused out...you don't cut off the top of someone's head in a shot (or there right arm when you have others in the frame with right arms) unless they've non-essential and have been focused out of the shot or you don't squeeze the frame to exclude elements that might lend some balance to a scene - I'd like a dime for every time I watched a modern movie where the principle character is talking and all you see is the right side of their body and the left side of the other person's they are talking to and a lot of middle ground of nothing - for no f-ing reason.

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:38 PM (32YRo)

98 Kingsley is Gene Hackmanish. Always working.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:39 PM (PUmDY)

99 Kingsley is Gene Hackmanish. Always working.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie

Did you ever see Kingley in Sexy Beast. He's brilliantly aggressive.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:40 PM (+Tibp)

100 93 There were two scenes in 1981 movies that caught the zeitgeist that the USA was moving out of its post-Vietnam funk.



I think that Reagan and 1980 Olympic Hockey team had something to do with the mood..but we digress...
Posted by: runner



IMO, that happened in '77 when Star Wars came out. I know Lucas has said otherwise, but he's an idiot.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 07:40 PM (WNAuL)

101 watching First Man now

been binge watching Endeavor

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 07:41 PM (BJlbN)

102 Kingsley and F. Murray Abraham are always working. In the beginning, Kingsley had Ghandi, Abraham - Salieri.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:41 PM (bUjCl)

103 Sexy Beast is good.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:41 PM (PUmDY)

104 98 Kingsley is Gene Hackmanish. Always working.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie



Gene Hackman did finally retire a few years ago. Great actor.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (WNAuL)

105 I smirked today when thinking about the praise of Black Panther and it being first significant black superhero movie while flipping through the TV line up and see the Blade marathon scheduled.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (2DOZq)

106 Edgar Wright can block like a mofo.

Posted by: Moviegique at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (CKkRA)

107 35 I'm probably the only person who didn't mind Andie McDowell in that movie
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM (jm1YL)
----------------------------
I didn't mind her.
She made no real impression on me, one way or another.
She was just the generic pretty-and-nice girl needed for the plot.

I'm even inclined to believe that someone with more substance might have reduced the movie to a mere romance --- or at least made the boy-girl part TOO prominent.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (Rxduq)

108 Agree. Horrible stuff. Flat, one dimensional. Actors, always starring into the camera. No mise en scene - but that is on the actors too. Most of them can't act.

Posted by: runner

This. So much flatness and one dimensional thinking.

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (32YRo)

109 Someone a couple of weeks ago suggested Kingdom on Netflix. A Korean period piece about palace intrigue and zombies. Whomever it was, thank you.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (+Tibp)

110 I'd rather have a liter of beer than a pint.

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at February 09, 2019 07:26 PM (Dgce0)

Unintended consequence of going metric: it makes you twice as drunk.

Posted by: I like cookies at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (xxAFD)

111 I'm watching something on Netflix about presidential elections. It's produced by CNN so I'm skeptical but it is interesting.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (MkcN1)

112 Posted by: gp at February 09, 2019 07:37 PM (mk9aG)

Speaking to that type of blindness, I rented The Predator. Pretty decent franchise and McTiernan's is a classic. This movie was the biggest pile of shit I have ever seen. Who thought this movie (even on paper) was a good idea?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 07:43 PM (2PRiy)

113 Gene Hackman did finally retire a few years ago. Great actor.
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (WNAuL)

--He didn't deserve that.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:44 PM (e7oj4)

114 We were still in Vietnam Funk in 1977 when Star Wars came out, and would be for a few more years. As long as Carter was in office ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 07:44 PM (1UZdv)

115

The Avengers (John Steed version) is starting on Charge TV in about 10 minutes. They run the Avengers along with Danger Man on Saturdays and Sundays. The last B/W Danger Man is on tonight along with the first of only 2 color episodes of Danger Man. McGoohan quit the show to work on The Prisoner.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 07:44 PM (SiINZ)

116 This. So much flatness and one dimensional thinking.
Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (32YRo)


Boswell, they can't even enter and exit the room properly ! And their mise-en-scene is always, ALWAYS getting some drink out of the fridge ! *shudders

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:44 PM (bUjCl)

117 ''watched a modern movie where the principle character is talking and all you see is the right side of their body and the left side of the other person's they are talking to and a lot of middle ground of nothing - for no f-ing reason.''

I think that why we remember and treasure the older movies. Think about Casablanca or Gone With the Wind or The Wizard of Oz. I can picture almost every scene in those movies because they were shot so perfectly.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:45 PM (jm1YL)

118 97 The art of framing a shot or a picture meant thinking about each scene or "the shot", the principle of the shot is given a proper angle - unneeded elements of the shot are focused out...you don't cut off the top of someone's head in a shot (or there right arm when you have others in the frame with right arms) unless they've non-essential and have been focused out of the shot or you don't squeeze the frame to exclude elements that might lend some balance to a scene - I'd like a dime for every time I watched a modern movie where the principle character is talking and all you see is the right side of their body and the left side of the other person's they are talking to and a lot of middle ground of nothing - for no f-ing reason.
Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:38 PM (32YRo)

--Was that a reply to my query?

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:45 PM (e7oj4)

119
Saw Jurassic Park Fallen Kingdom. Terrible. Terrible and stupid.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 07:45 PM (LkFnL)

120 Did Michael Caine retire?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:45 PM (PUmDY)

121 I like Groundhog Day a lot. But I agree that Rita is the film's weakness. It's not clear to me why she's an amazing prize worth changing for; she seems pretty shallow and unlikeable really. But maybe that's just because Murray is the focus and not enough time is devoted to Rita. (Though I'm skeptical that increased camera time for Andue McDowel would make her more desireabld too.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 09, 2019 07:46 PM (H5knJ)

122 Ser Sean Connery and Gene Hackman are 88. Michael Caine is 85.

We shall never see their likes again

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 07:47 PM (1UZdv)

123 114: Star Wars was fresh air in '77 because of its hopefulness and obvious good vs. evil story line. That was something short in supply in the Carter years. It's why Star Wars was so hugely successful and resonated as it did.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 07:47 PM (WNAuL)

124 ''I liked Tuna's story about the plaid sunglasses. It would make a lovely short subject, a vignette about normal life pre-PC era. PC referring to tech as well as speech.''

Thanks. To this day I yearn for those sunglasses. Whenever I get a new pair I think about them.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:47 PM (jm1YL)

125 The science is settled. Groundhogs are a type of weasel.
Don't even try to argue to the contrary, it won't do any good.

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2019 07:48 PM (UdKB7)

126 Julie Taymor. You know who she is ?

Posted by: runner

Had to look her up - not knowledgeable about Broadway. I assume you are suggesting she is staging Lion King and others with this concept?

That would be good if so, I saw the Lion King on Broadway with my kids - good costume design.

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:48 PM (32YRo)

127 Did Michael Caine retire?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:45 PM (PUmDY)




Not bleedin' likely. According to IMDB he's got 3 movies in post production

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 07:48 PM (SiINZ)

128 The science is settled. Groundhogs are a type of weasel.
Don't even try to argue to the contrary, it won't do any good.
Posted by: freaked

The OKC zoo uses two grizzly bears to forecast. Spring's a coming!

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:49 PM (+Tibp)

129 127, awesome news

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:49 PM (PUmDY)

130 I watched Anchors Aweigh this week (among other things). It really struck me how much Frank Sinatra sounds like Larry Fine, at least in this movie.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 07:50 PM (l9m7l)

131 she seems pretty shallow and unlikeable really...
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 09, 2019 07:46 PM (H5knJ)

Which is why the original Phil lusted after her. And why the grown up Phil would have been over her. That always bothered me about the movie. Other than that, loved it. I don't care that her acting wasn't super, it kind of enforced her character's character in a meta way.

Posted by: I like cookies at February 09, 2019 07:50 PM (xxAFD)

132 There's a review of St Vincent on my site. It was good, kinda in the same vein as GHD. I would link but I'm afk. Have a good night, folks!

Posted by: Moviegique at February 09, 2019 07:50 PM (CKkRA)

133 I liked GD more after watching it a few times. I thought it was just a dumb romantic comedy the first time.

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2019 07:50 PM (UdKB7)

134 For me Saturday night is where it's at. MeTV Sci-fi Saturday Night. Love the old sci-fi and svengooli is awesome. Unfortunately Abbot and Costello go to Mars is on tonight, but there is always Erin Gray on Buck Rogers to make up for it.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (2PRiy)

135 one of those movies that will stand the test of time, the way casablanca and wizard of oz do.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (Pg+x7)

136 I watched Anchors Aweigh this week (among other things). It really struck me how much Frank Sinatra sounds like Larry Fine, at least in this movie.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

I'm sorry, Moe!

*slap*

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (+Tibp)

137 What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?

Name of the Rose
Man Who Would be King
Lion and the Wind
Zardoz

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (2DOZq)

138 ''Michael Caine is 85. ''

Talk about framing a shot..the scene at end end of Alfie where Caine stands and speaks directly at the camera. Perfect

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (jm1YL)

139 Caine and Hackman both grew up poor, and so never stopped working. They both wound up in a few klunkers because of this, but have been in so many great flicks

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (1UZdv)

140 I don't think Michael Caine is going to stop working until he drops dead. Which is good news for all of us.

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (786Ro)

141 --Was that a reply to my query?

Posted by: logprof

Sorry logprof - just venting. I wasn't answering any particular query. I just have my crazy old man opinions on this stuff - others may vary! And probably do.

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (32YRo)

142 Love this movie. We watched it - AGAIN! - last week on - of course! - Groundhog Day!

Don't drive angry!

Posted by: Rosasharn at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (PzBTm)

143 Chris Elliott
Whatever happened to that guy?


Cabin Boy is a piece of art. Well, a piece of something. Cinematography something, something. Ann Magnuson was hawt back then, and I had a boner for Bongwater.

I'll sacrifice Chris Elliot if it means we never have to see Tom Green again.

Posted by: clutch cargo at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (sLicW)

144 Bears are not weasels. Bears are what weasels aspire to be.

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (UdKB7)

145 137 What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?

Name of the Rose
Man Who Would be King
Lion and the Wind
Zardoz

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (2DOZq)

--Robin and Marian

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (e7oj4)

146 Whomever it was, thank you.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:42 PM (+Tibp)

you're welcome!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (BJlbN)

147 Man Who Would Be King, by a mile

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (1UZdv)

148 But, getting back to Julie Taymor. I first saw her work in Freida. Director. (YES, I know, patience...) And I think she employed proper framing techniques. Also, I was floored at her directorial mastery. Depth. For example, she needed to transport specifics from Khalo's diary onto the silver screen. I remember there was one that went something like "death dancing at my bedside". How do you translate that onto the screen ? And she was able to do it !

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (bUjCl)

149 I like Groundhog Day a lot. But I agree that Rita is the film's weakness. It's not clear to me why she's an amazing prize worth changing for; she seems pretty shallow and unlikeable really. But maybe that's just because Murray is the focus and not enough time is devoted to Rita. (Though I'm skeptical that increased camera time for Andue McDowel would make her more desireabld too.)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 09, 2019 07:46 PM (H5knJ)

Andie McDowell is not really a beauty. But, she would look more beautiful if her voice wasn't so damn annoying! Know what I mean?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 09, 2019 07:53 PM (3sjI6)

150 Name of the Rose
Man Who Would be King
Lion and the Wind
Zardoz

Posted by: Can't resist temptation

My personal fave is Man who would be King. But, I can't resist the Untouchables's line:

"Who would claim to be that, that was not?"

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:53 PM (+Tibp)

151 Star Wars was fresh air in '77 because of its
hopefulness and obvious good vs. evil story line. That was something
short in supply in the Carter years. It's why Star Wars was so hugely
successful and resonated as it did.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 07:47 PM (WNAuL)

Plus it was splashed across the media. Gobs of free publicity. Time magazine devoted an entire issue to it the summer before. Yes, Time was a kind of big deal back then. And the special effects were extremely good for the time.

Posted by: I like cookies at February 09, 2019 07:53 PM (xxAFD)

152 125 Groundhogs start getting fire arms we're in trouble

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2019 07:53 PM (/rm4P)

153 First Man is sloooow

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 07:53 PM (BJlbN)

154 What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?

Name of the Rose
Man Who Would be King
Lion and the Wind
Zardoz

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (2DOZq)



The Offense - 1973
The Man Who Would be King - 1975 (with Michael Caine)
Robin and Marian - 1976

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (SiINZ)

155 I'm just finishing the last few episodes of "The Wire".

I see why there were no more. The exposure of the corruption, malfeasance , and incompetence in Baltimore must have been very painful.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (uefWR)

156 I've
always enjoyed Bill Murry's work but one of his best, if not the best
in my opinion, is as the shady funeral home director in "Get Low".
Duvall is good in it as well. Well worth watching.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (OMAvJ)

157 Sorry logprof - just venting. I wasn't answering any particular query. I just have my crazy old man opinions on this stuff - others may vary! And probably do.
Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (32YRo)

--Seriously, I want your "hot take" on that.

I'm dreaming of making moving pictures, so any concrete input is welcome.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (e7oj4)

158 Michael Caine made Dirty Rotten Scoundrels great

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (PUmDY)

159 Groundhog day is Quality. One of my favorite films.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (xJa6I)

160 Had to look her up - not knowledgeable about Broadway. I assume you are suggesting she is staging Lion King and others with this concept?

That would be good if so, I saw the Lion King on Broadway with my kids - good costume design.
Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 07:48 PM (32YRo)


Yes ! That was her work. And she did Titus - the move. I...admit I did not finish watching that...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (bUjCl)

161 I've mentioned this before, but the one thing I do not like about Groundhog Day is Andi McDowell. She is tedious and unappealing in the extreme. Bill Murray and the rest of the cast are stellar, thankfully. I love the way my mind whirs when watching this one, during ad after. What would I do with an endless cycle of one day to embiggen myself?

Still, here I am, on a Saturday night, watching The Killer Shrews on MST and drinking.

*sigh*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not a Dullard at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (FXbwN)

162 Marnie.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 07:55 PM (PUmDY)

163 What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?


I've always like Outland.

Makes living/working in space (or, on another world ) look unglamorous, gritty and seamy and difficult. Also the lawless wild west tone it has. It has a couple dumb things in it, but it's pretty good.

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 07:55 PM (786Ro)

164 I remember there was one that went something like "death dancing at my bedside". How do you translate that onto the screen ? And she was able to do it !
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:52 PM (bUjCl)

I do a mean electric boogaloo!--Death.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 09, 2019 07:55 PM (3sjI6)

165 I was kidding of course with Zardoz. I did though forget about Outland for good Connery movies.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:55 PM (2DOZq)

166

My favorite Michael Caine movies, which all came out one after the other are Zulu, Ipcress File and Alfie. I watch them any bleedin' time they're on

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 07:55 PM (SiINZ)

167 155 I'm just finishing the last few episodes of "The Wire".

I see why there were no more. The exposure of the corruption, malfeasance , and incompetence in Baltimore must have been very painful.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (uefWR)

You'd think so, but it bounced right off the creator. In a few years, he was back to blaming Republicans for everything wrong in the world.

Still, evil shit or not, he made a real piece of art in The Wire. Reality brought to cinema-life.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 07:56 PM (xJa6I)

168 Bill Murray has a great cameo as a sleazy lawyer in my favorite guilty pleasure Wild Things (199

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 07:56 PM (1UZdv)

169 What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?

Name of the Rose
Man Who Would be King
Lion and the Wind
Zardoz
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (2DOZq)
The Offense - 1973
The Man Who Would be King - 1975 (with Michael Caine)
Robin and Marian - 1976
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (SiINZ)

The Hill.

Good flick.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 09, 2019 07:56 PM (Z+IKu)

170 163 What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?


I've always like Outland.

Makes living/working in space (or, on another world ) look unglamorous, gritty and seamy and difficult. Also the lawless wild west tone it has. It has a couple dumb things in it, but it's pretty good.
Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 07:55 PM (786Ro)

I believe it was intended to be High Noon in space.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:56 PM (2DOZq)

171 >>Where was she well-cast ? Which movie ?


Sex, Lies and Videotape


Groundhog Day is an excellent movie, and yes, it is so important that it doesn't end when he gets the girl.

Love Edge of Tomorrow, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 09, 2019 07:57 PM (W+vEI)

172 Man Who Would Be King

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2019 07:57 PM (UdKB7)

173 *turns on the Killer Shrews on Pluto*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 07:57 PM (xJa6I)

174 I wonder about Connery's range. Don't think he has any.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:57 PM (bUjCl)

175 Love this flick.

Those of you that like it might also like "Triangle". Although it isnt a comedy.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 09, 2019 07:57 PM (p0nVR)

176 137 What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?

Name of the Rose
Man Who Would be King
Lion and the Wind
Zardoz

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM (2DOZq)

The Great Train Robbery
And of course The Rock

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 07:57 PM (2PRiy)

177 The Untouchables is very good too. Maybe not literally a Sean Connery movie, since Kevin Costner is the star - but Connery makes the movie his.

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 07:58 PM (786Ro)

178 Always funny to see the Jonah hating site do a take that Jonah has already done 100 times and better. Google Jonah and Groundhog Day.

Posted by: Causticf at February 09, 2019 07:58 PM (cfxc3)

179 I love Connery in The Untouchables.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 07:58 PM (xJa6I)

180 Man Who Would Be King
Posted by: freaked

"Let him print that, if he has need of news"

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 07:58 PM (+Tibp)

181 Highlander!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not a Dullard at February 09, 2019 07:58 PM (FXbwN)

182 155 I'm just finishing the last few episodes of "The Wire".

I see why there were no more. The exposure of the corruption, malfeasance , and incompetence in Baltimore must have been very painful.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (uefWR)

--The Wire is the GOAT, as the kids say. A whole damn weekend bingeing Homicide: Life on The Street and The Wire is TV goodness.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (e7oj4)

183
Caine and Connery were both in A Bridge Too Far. Good movie but not quite as good as The Longest Day

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (SiINZ)

184 ''What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie? ''

I always got a kick out of the "The Wind and the Lion".even if Connery played the moor with a Scottish accent. Loved Brian Keith as Teddy Roosevelt. Candice Bergen and Connery had some great chemistry and the soundtrack was wonderful.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (jm1YL)

185 I've always enjoyed Bill Murry's work but one of his best, if not the best
in my opinion, is as the shady funeral home director in "Get Low".
Duvall is good in it as well. Well worth watching.
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (OMAvJ)

One of my favorite Murray films is just a cameo. He did Zombieland and took the movie to the next level.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (3sjI6)

186 I've always like Outland.


Makes living/working in space (or, on another world ) look
unglamorous, gritty and seamy and difficult. Also the lawless wild west
tone it has. It has a couple dumb things in it, but it's pretty good.

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 07:55 PM (786Ro)
-------------

And, it has bewbs.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (OMAvJ)

187 uggh this movie is making me mad
how could they make a movie about the first man on the moon so dull!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (BJlbN)

188 174 I wonder about Connery's range. Don't think he has any.
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 07:57 PM (bUjCl)

Kind of like Jack Nicholson for me. I love his Scottish Russian accent in Hunt for Red October.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (2DOZq)

189 " I wonder about Connery's range. Don't think he has any."

Robert Mitchum, speaking about himself, said that he had two styles of acting. On a horse, and off a horse.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 08:00 PM (1UZdv)

190 Robin and Marian was a movie whose reputation I don't understand. Connery looked awful throughout. Worst part was the story ended with Marian killing him, then herself.

Why?!

Posted by: squeakywheel at February 09, 2019 08:00 PM (muUop)

191 What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?
The best movie he was in or his best acting performance? I have not seen as many of his films as other I think. He is a good actor but I have not seen a lot of his old stuff and much of his new stuff. I would say Untouchables was the best movie he has been in in some time.


Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 08:00 PM (n13/j)

192 Posted by: Causticf at February 09, 2019 07:58 PM (cfxc3)


**slips gummie bear for Causticf through USB port**

Good troll. Now shoo.

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 08:00 PM (786Ro)

193 ''I wonder about Connery's range. Don't think he has any.''

Charisma in spades.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:00 PM (jm1YL)

194 Best non-Bond Connery is either The Untouchables or Hunt For Red October.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 09, 2019 08:01 PM (ju9gW)

195 *turns on the Killer Shrews on Pluto*


I'm there. Got my doggy treats at the ready.

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2019 08:01 PM (UdKB7)

196 Oops I mean "shrew" treats.

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2019 08:01 PM (UdKB7)

197 Mark, I can see where he would have been pressured by the powers that be but a true Lib could never have captured everything that happened in this series.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:01 PM (uefWR)

198 " I wonder about Connery's range. Don't think he has any."

Robert Mitchum, speaking about himself, said that he had two styles of acting. On a horse, and off a horse.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 08:00 PM (1UZdv)

at least he knew where he stood

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:01 PM (bUjCl)

199 My favorite Michael Caine movies, which all came out one after the other are Zulu, Ipcress File and Alfie. I watch them any bleedin' time they're on
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 07:55 PM (SiINZ)

--Harry Brown.

If you like Man On Fire, Taken, or other awesome revenge flicks, do see Harry Brown.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 08:02 PM (e7oj4)

200
*turns on the Killer Shrews on Pluto*

Dixieland jazz

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2019 08:02 PM (aKsyK)

201 189 " I wonder about Connery's range. Don't think he has any."

Robert Mitchum, speaking about himself, said that he had two styles of acting. On a horse, and off a horse.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 08:00 PM (1UZdv)

I re-watched 'Out of the Past' last week, thanks to Razorfist reminding me of it. Mitchum is damn good in that movie, though you can't catch him acting in it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:02 PM (xJa6I)

202 I always got a kick out of the "The Wind and the Lion".even if Connery played the moor with a Scottish accent. Loved Brian Keith as Teddy Roosevelt. Candice Bergen and Connery had some great chemistry and the soundtrack was wonderful.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (jm1YL)



British comedian (can't remember his name) did a take on Connery. In Connery's voice, a British secret agent. Yes, this is the perfect accent. (in the same voice) A Russian submarine commander. Yes, this is the perfect accent.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 08:02 PM (SiINZ)

203 181 Highlander!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not a Dullard at February 09, 2019 07:58 PM (FXbwN)

Every morning when Vic posts articles he ends with a Ramirez cartoon. I always say Ramirez in my best Kurgen accent

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 08:02 PM (2PRiy)

204 Another Groundhog Day-like program out now is Russian Doll on Netflix. Its darker, but has the same searching for redemption quality as GHD. An a/hole character spouts some liberal political speak at the beginning and there are lots of lesbian characters, but its interesting.. I watched all episodes in a day or so.

Posted by: LASue at February 09, 2019 08:03 PM (XROPS)

205 Kind of like Jack Nicholson for me. I love his Scottish Russian accent in Hunt for Red October.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (2DOZq)

Nicholson > Connery

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:03 PM (bUjCl)

206 Ooo, and I get Harry Brown with Prime.

[Sets out for popcorn]

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 08:03 PM (e7oj4)

207 Entrapment wasn't a bad flick and had eye candy Catherine Zeta Jones.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:03 PM (2DOZq)

208 Tom Green gives one a greater appreciation of Chris Elliot. And Fred Mertz. Not Lindsey Buckingham.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 09, 2019 08:03 PM (RuIsu)

209 I loved Harry Brown

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:03 PM (uefWR)

210 Shrews are a particularly vicious type of weasel.

Posted by: freaked at February 09, 2019 08:03 PM (UdKB7)

211 Posted by: Causticf at February 09, 2019 07:58 PM (cfxc3)

*removes mask*

All of us: JONAH HILL!

Jonah: and I would have gotten away with it were it not for you meddling kids!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not a Dullard at February 09, 2019 08:04 PM (FXbwN)

212 Charisma in spades.
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:00 PM (jm1YL)

He is always James Bond. Cowboy James bond, Indy's father James Bond...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:04 PM (bUjCl)

213 ''Robin and Marian was a movie whose reputation I don't understand. Connery looked awful throughout. Worst part was the story ended with Marian killing him, then herself.

Why?!''

Also, the sound man should have been fired. We saw it in the theater when it came out and had a heck of a time understanding the dialog. It was on around Thanksgiving and I watched again. My mom had the closed captioning on because she doesn't hear well so I was able to finally get the dialog as the sound problems remain.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:04 PM (jm1YL)

214 197 Mark, I can see where he would have been pressured by the powers that be but a true Lib could never have captured everything that happened in this series.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:01 PM (uefWR)

Well he was telling the story of his city, as honestly as he knew how. That was not a pro-democrat or pro-liberal story, however. And once people figured that out, he pivoted hard to the Left. Read any of David Simon's recent interviews.

Still a damn good show. I usually quit re-watches after season 4, though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:04 PM (xJa6I)

215 Not only is Groundhog Day one of my favorite films; underneath the surface it is one of the most deeply religious movies ever made. I'm not sure they intended that so much, but it ended up that way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2019 08:04 PM (V2Yro)

216 Not only is Groundhog Day one of my favorite films; underneath the surface it is one of the most deeply religious movies ever made. I'm not sure they intended that so much, but it ended up that way.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2019 08:04 PM (V2Yro)


Sound like that from Moviegique's review...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:06 PM (bUjCl)

217 "You failed to maintain your weapon, my son."

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:06 PM (xJa6I)

218 209 I loved Harry Brown
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:03 PM (uefWR)

--It's the tits.

Playing it now, to accompany drinking.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 08:07 PM (e7oj4)

219 I'm pretty sure I watched Harry Brown but I forget the plot

speaking of revenge movies, Peppermint was not bad

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:07 PM (BJlbN)

220 Mark, Thank You, great analysis.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:07 PM (uefWR)

221 205 Kind of like Jack Nicholson for me. I love his Scottish Russian accent in Hunt for Red October.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (2DOZq)

Nicholson > Connery
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:03 PM (bUjCl)

Don't disagree as an actor but Connery had more movies I liked though Nicholson won with One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:07 PM (2DOZq)

222 'Groundhog Day" has the odd quality of appealing to people from all religious traditions. Devout Buddhists will say "yes, this is why we believe in reincarnation, it takes many lives to approach true enlightenment". Roman Catholics will say "this is what we believe purgatory is for". Protestants will say "this shows the life a man should strive for, and the futility of evil." Jewish believers say "this demonstrates why we believe in mitsvah, why that is how a good live must be lived."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2019 08:07 PM (V2Yro)

223 Makes living/working in space (or, on another world ) look unglamorous, gritty and seamy and difficult. Also the lawless wild west tone it has. It has a couple dumb things in it, but it's pretty good.
Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 07:55 PM (786Ro)

Brian Dennehy was amazing as the endless void of outer space.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 08:08 PM (NWiLs)

224 '... but it ended up that way."

iirc, the original story had a more definite explanation of murray's situation and as the project developed armies and murray changed it to the original author's dismay. it's really very vague about why it happened and what spiritual forces are at work.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:08 PM (Pg+x7)

225 ramis not armies. damn splchk.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:08 PM (Pg+x7)

226 Don't disagree as an actor but Connery had more movies I liked though Nicholson won with One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:07 PM (2DOZq)

all right...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:09 PM (bUjCl)

227 Mark, who was your favorite character?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:09 PM (uefWR)

228 156 I've always enjoyed Bill Murry's work but one of his best, if not the best in my opinion, is as the shady funeral home director in "Get Low".
Duvall is good in it as well. Well worth watching.
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 09, 2019 07:54 PM (OMAvJ)
--------------------------
Agreed about Murray's performance in "Get Low" --- absolutely top-notch --- but the movie was a big disappointment to me.
The concept had potential and it started strong but it ended up a contrived melodrama.
It just did not work for me at all.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 08:10 PM (Rxduq)

229 Michael Caine - Zulu and Harry Brown

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (B1ik8)

230 Votermom - It was made by Leftists who obviously didn't think the walk on the moon was all that wonderful, there are poor starving people on this planet to take care of you know.

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (/rm4P)

231 . it's really very vague about why it happened and what spiritual forces are at work.

But because of that, everyone can apply their own paradigm to it. One of the biggest "tells" is the incident of the old man he tries to save. He helps him a lot, but no matter how much he tries he can't save him. It's not funny at all, it's sad, and it's there for a reason - to show him, and us, that you only have the power to change your own life, your own fate. You can help other people, you can do fantastic things for them, but in the end, no one else's fate is up to you. Only your own. Murray finds that out by trying to change the old mans fate, and realizes that he cannot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (V2Yro)

232 Watched Miller's Crossing yesterday. Is that the ending everyone wanted? I'm talking the very end?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (2DOZq)

233 ''Nicholson won with One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.''

Saw that in the theater when it came out. Did.not.like.it.at all. Have never felt the urge to watch it again.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (jm1YL)

234 Mark, who was your favorite character?


==

Any women of low virtue and easy going attitude ??
Oh, sorry, we are talking movie shows...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:12 PM (bUjCl)

235 We lost Albert Finney this week. His performance in Miller's Crossing was just stunning. He brought so much power to the role.

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 08:12 PM (ed8K1)

236 ... i think murray has taken groundhog day to heart. he drops in on ordinary people (like at weddings) to demonstrate his good nature. or something.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:12 PM (Pg+x7)

237 When he was young, Connery was an old-fashioned milk man in Edinburgh. The kind who made home deliveries. IYKWIM.

A Eugene O'Neill sequel?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 08:12 PM (1UZdv)

238 232 Watched Miller's Crossing yesterday. Is that the ending everyone wanted? I'm talking the very end?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (2DOZq)

When he crashed the C-130 carrying the nuclear warhead into the volcano? I thought it was a bit cliche.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 08:12 PM (NWiLs)

239 232 Watched Miller's Crossing yesterday. Is that the ending everyone wanted? I'm talking the very end?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (2DOZq)

Well it's a remake of The Glass Key. What about the ending don't you like? It's not a HAPPY movie.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:13 PM (xJa6I)

240

The Cathy Gale, Avengers episodes were okay, but the show really hit its stride with Emma Peel. Still this episode has Anneke Wills (Doctor Who companion) in a pussycat get up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 08:13 PM (SiINZ)

241 Watched Miller's Crossing yesterday. Is that the ending everyone wanted? I'm talking the very end?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (2DOZq)

I don't remember, something about a hat I think. But it was a damn good film.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 08:13 PM (n13/j)

242 238 232 Watched Miller's Crossing yesterday. Is that the ending everyone wanted? I'm talking the very end?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (2DOZq)

When he crashed the C-130 carrying the nuclear warhead into the volcano? I thought it was a bit cliche.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 08:12 PM (NWiLs)

Very Macho though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:13 PM (xJa6I)

243 the only good thing about First Man so far is that it reminded me that Corey Stoll exists and I should catch up on The Strain

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:13 PM (BJlbN)

244 Agreed about Murray's performance in "Get Low" --- absolutely top-notch --- but the movie was a big disappointment to me.
The concept had potential and it started strong but it ended up a contrived melodrama.
It just did not work for me at all.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 08:10 PM (Rxduq)

I felt the same way.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:13 PM (2DOZq)

245 I watched Tim Burton's "Ed Wood" again recently, and one of my favorite lines is when Ed Wood's regulars are all getting baptized to get funding for a movie, and when they dunk Bill Murray's character, the Pastor asks him "Do you reject Satan and all his works???" And Murray says, "Sure."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2019 08:13 PM (V2Yro)

246 When he was young, Connery was an old-fashioned milk man in Edinburgh. The kind who made home deliveries. IYKWIM.
A Eugene O'Neill sequel?
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 08:12 PM (1UZdv)

The MilkMan Cometh......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 09, 2019 08:14 PM (Z+IKu)

247 232 Watched Miller's Crossing yesterday. Is that the ending everyone wanted? I'm talking the very end?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (2DOZq)


Not sure what you mean by "the ending everyone wanted." I think of Miller's Crossing as being Tom's story, and there's a sense in which reality's failure to conform to his belief that being clever will always get you through is the principal arc of the movie.

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 08:15 PM (ed8K1)

248
First Man is sloooow

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 07:53 PM (BJlbN)



Skip that and the Second Man and watch the Third Man

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 08:15 PM (SiINZ)

249 speaking of revenge movies, Peppermint was not bad
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:07 PM (BJlbN)

--Peppermint and Cold Pursuit are on my list.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 08:16 PM (e7oj4)

250 Give me "The Thin Man"

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:17 PM (uefWR)

251 ... in a sense, murray brought something of razor's edge to groundhog day, themes his striving for in his own life.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:17 PM (Pg+x7)

252 I think I'll watch Robinson Carusoe on Mars before watching First Man.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2019 08:17 PM (B1ik8)

253 227 Mark, who was your favorite character?
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:09 PM (uefWR)

That's a tough one, the Wire has a LOT of good characters.

Maybe Omar, as a character.

Lester Freemon might be a better choice for me as a person/cop.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:17 PM (xJa6I)

254 Forget First Man and see the prequel The Right Stuff

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2019 08:18 PM (/rm4P)

255 Miller's Crossing is a very great movie.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:19 PM (PUmDY)

256 I think I'll watch Robinson Carusoe on Mars before watching First Man.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2019 08:17 PM (B1ik

That American flag issue kept me away. Get woke, go broke. But maybe it was decent?. Did anyone here like it?

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 08:19 PM (n13/j)

257 Groundhog Day is of course excellent, but I can point to one nit that was almost impossible to avoid, given the story frame: that Murray's journey can easily be looked at as "crack the code, get the girl, problem solved, you're done." In this view, Murray was conning her with a bunch of tricks, and doing all those nice things because he just couldn't bear to keep ignoring them, but ultimately, wasn't he still conning her with fake "things in common?"

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 08:19 PM (ed8K1)

258 247 232 Watched Miller's Crossing yesterday. Is that the ending everyone wanted? I'm talking the very end?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (2DOZq)

Not sure what you mean by "the ending everyone wanted." I think of Miller's Crossing as being Tom's story, and there's a sense in which reality's failure to conform to his belief that being clever will always get you through is the principal arc of the movie.
Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 08:15 PM (ed8K1)

I mean we didn't really see the end of the arc. I guess we can make our own story where Tom ends up.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:20 PM (2DOZq)

259 The Third Man meets the Thin Man?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2019 08:20 PM (B1ik8)

260 Mark, My top choice was Omar, with Lester as a close second.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:20 PM (uefWR)

261 219 I'm pretty sure I watched Harry Brown but I forget the plot


Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:07 PM (BJlbN)

--Kinda like Denzel's character in Man on Fire, ex-special ops on a mission, but against local thugs, not a bug kidnapping ring.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 08:20 PM (e7oj4)

262 Robinson Carusoe on Mars



The Robinson Carusoe ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:20 PM (bUjCl)

263 Chris Elliott as Larry is, I think, kind of a reminder that even if we're not all as bad as Phil, we all have our own kinds of arrogance and interest in having others love us more than we wish to love them in return.

Speaking of Chris Elliott, he is one actor I expected to have gotten much further in his career than he has. His stuff with Letterman was amusing. He also did a TV series (with his father, Bob Elliott, of Bob and Ray fame) called Get A Life. It was really quite funny. But, he never made it into the top tier. He's kept busy, though, and did a great Doritos commercial.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 09, 2019 08:20 PM (3sjI6)

264 Where did you find Oz in the original colors.

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2019 08:21 PM (25Dt7)

265 9
I have been posting about this in other threads, but here it is actually on topic.
I have recently discovered DUST on YT. Short Sci Fi movies made on tight budget by students and independents.
Some are good, some are bad, and some really stuck with me. All are around 25 minutes or less. (ADD friendly!)

This one was a current favorite. Could easily be a full length film or 3 built in this universe.
The Leap
https://tinyurl.com/ycmw6ab4


Yeah, quoting your own comment is pitiful. And SAD!
But no one else has watched DUST short movies?

Kinda like Black Mirror.

Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 08:21 PM (LL1Be)

266 257 Groundhog Day is of course excellent, but I can point to one nit that was almost impossible to avoid, given the story frame: that Murray's journey can easily be looked at as "crack the code, get the girl, problem solved, you're done." In this view, Murray was conning her with a bunch of tricks, and doing all those nice things because he just couldn't bear to keep ignoring them, but ultimately, wasn't he still conning her with fake "things in common?"
Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 08:19 PM (ed8K1)

But the bag of tricks only worked up to a point. It couldn't seal the deal or let him move forward. It was only when Murray had changed, not to win her, but just to be a better man did he end up deserving her and deserving salvation.

It's not a Christian movie but it's a good one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:21 PM (xJa6I)

267 And Murray says, "Sure."
Posted by: Tom Servo

"Ask him to call Karloff a Limey cocksucker."

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 08:21 PM (+Tibp)

268 Elliott is in another movie. the man who killed Hitler and then killed Bigfoot.

yeah, the title is bollocks but I hear the film is good.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2019 08:21 PM (X/A4v)

269 Mods...There's a vile turd of a troll comment on "Moving Beyond Judeo-Christianity" that I think you'd like to remove.
#460, the last one.

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 09, 2019 08:21 PM (adsVM)

270 ''Agreed about Murray's performance in "Get Low" --- absolutely top-notch --- but the movie was a big disappointment to me.
The concept had potential and it started strong but it ended up a contrived melodrama. ''

Not as memorable as it could have been given the cast. I agree, Murray was great in an unexpected role. I was delighted to see Sissy Spacek again though.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:21 PM (jm1YL)

271 Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss were pure comedy gold in "What about Bob?"

IMHO, of course.

Posted by: Marybeth at February 09, 2019 08:22 PM (MEgUr)

272 264 Where did you find Oz in the original colors.
Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2019 08:21 PM (25Dt7)

Didn't care for Oz. WAAAAAY too much assrape.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 08:22 PM (NWiLs)

273 260 Mark, My top choice was Omar, with Lester as a close second.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:20 PM (uefWR)

Ha! Great minds and all that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:22 PM (xJa6I)

274 and Get A Life was great.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2019 08:22 PM (X/A4v)

275 New emoji ... perfect for your SJW friends.

https://tinyurl.com/y8p985wa

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 09, 2019 08:22 PM (vWMNq)

276 Ryan Gosling....he is terrible. Not a leading man, even though they keep casting him as such. Ruined already ruined BR 2049 some more.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:22 PM (bUjCl)

277 uggh this movie is making me mad
how could they make a movie about the first man on the moon so dull!
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 07:59 PM (BJlbN)

That's because the flag had all the good lines and they cut it from the movie. Editors. Watta gonna do?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 09, 2019 08:22 PM (3sjI6)

278 Chris Elliott -
Hated rabid Letterman (who discovered Chris) but Momenschantz was hilarious.

Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 08:23 PM (LL1Be)

279 191
What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?
The best movie he was in
or his best acting performance? I have not seen as many of his films as
other I think. He is a good actor but I have not seen a lot of his old
stuff and much of his new stuff. I would say Untouchables was the best
movie he has been in in some time.






Posted by: Quint
This x1000. Some one said Connery didn't have range. Well, how much range can you show as James Bond? As a sidekick, however, you can do a lot more. (Think IJ Last Crusade) I actually saw Untouchables again recently, and not only do I think it's Connery's best, but is a seriously underrated film as well. You have to understand, it's a DePalma film, which means there's a lot of Hitchcock influence. But it's a gangster film. Except, it's really not. It's a western. It's the OK Corral story, without the OK Corral. If I ask you who plays Holliday, Earp and Clanton, and you all know the answers. It's got a brilliant soundtrack and score, complete with a harmonica bit that reminds you of Good, Bad, Ugly. Heck, they even ride horses into a gunfight!

Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 08:23 PM (98pFy)

280 Oooo, I loved The Wire.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 08:23 PM (NWiLs)

281 Heh, forgot there is a game of chess in Harry Brown.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 08:23 PM (e7oj4)

282 Groundhog Day" has the odd quality of appealing to people from all religious traditions. Devout Buddhists will say "yes, this is why we believe in reincarnation, it takes many lives to approach true enlightenment". Roman Catholics will say "this is what we believe purgatory is for". Protestants will say "this shows the life a man should strive for, and the futility of evil." Jewish believers say "this demonstrates why we believe in mitsvah, why that is how a good live must be lived."
Posted by: Tom Servo at February

Muslims are left waiting for the groundhog to be decapitated.

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2019 08:23 PM (25Dt7)

283 Groundhog Day is of course excellent, but I can
point to one nit that was almost impossible to avoid, given the story
frame: that Murray's journey can easily be looked at as "crack the code,
get the girl, problem solved, you're done." In this view, Murray was
conning her with a bunch of tricks, and doing all those nice things
because he just couldn't bear to keep ignoring them, but ultimately,
wasn't he still conning her with fake "things in common?"

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 08:19 PM (ed8K1)

I think the in the first part he was conning her and using his advantage to make him like her. That failed in the end when he kept getting slapped. After that, he started doing the right thing because it was the right thing. That's how I saw it.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 08:24 PM (n13/j)

284 At his worst, Murray's smarminess can seep into what should be sincere moments--in my opinion, a weakness of the original Ghostbusters

OK, I'll bite. Which moments? Tried to figure them out, from this, and failed.

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 08:24 PM (ed8K1)

285 240 "... with emma peel..."


ooo -ooo, that reminds me: there's a neat link to an ian fleming interview with raymond chandler in the sidebar that's really worth a look. at one point chandler asks fleming why there's so much torture in his books. which reminded me of something patrick macnee said (and i've mentioned here), that he was offered and turned down the james bond role because he thought the books were sadistic (or that fleming was). guess he wasn't the only one.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:24 PM (Pg+x7)

286 The Third Man meets the Thin Man?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2019 08:20 PM (B1ik



Set it in Ireland and they can meet another Man

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 08:24 PM (SiINZ)

287
The Robinson Carusoe ?
Posted by: runner


Primitive as can be

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2019 08:24 PM (aKsyK)

288 Insomniac, I'm sorry it took me so long to find it.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:25 PM (uefWR)

289
What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?
The best movie he was in
or his best acting performance? I have not seen as many of his films as
other I think. He is a good actor but I have not seen a lot of his old
stuff and much of his new stuff. I would say Untouchables was the best
movie he has been in in some time.






Posted by: Quint
This x1000. Some one said Connery didn't have range. Well, how much range can you show as James Bond? As a sidekick, however, you can do a lot more. (Think IJ Last Crusade) I actually saw Untouchables again recently, and not only do I think it's Connery's best, but is a seriously underrated film as well. You have to understand, it's a DePalma film, which means there's a lot of Hitchcock influence. But it's a gangster film. Except, it's really not. It's a western. It's the OK Corral story, without the OK Corral. If I ask you who plays Holliday, Earp and Clanton, and you all know the answers. It's got a brilliant soundtrack and score, complete with a harmonica bit that reminds you of Good, Bad, Ugly. Heck, they even ride horses into a gunfight!
Posted by: Vertov

Outland, another Western without horses

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2019 08:25 PM (25Dt7)

290 Now available at WalMart is a 3D special edition of Wizard of Oz.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 09, 2019 08:25 PM (B1ik8)

291 At his worst, Murray's smarminess can seep into what should be sincere moments

Well. I'm screwed.

Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 08:25 PM (LL1Be)

292 258 247 232 Watched Miller's Crossing yesterday. Is that the ending everyone wanted? I'm talking the very end?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:11 PM (2DOZq)

Not sure what you mean by "the ending everyone wanted." I think of Miller's Crossing as being Tom's story, and there's a sense in which reality's failure to conform to his belief that being clever will always get you through is the principal arc of the movie.
Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 08:15 PM (ed8K1)

I mean we didn't really see the end of the arc. I guess we can make our own story where Tom ends up.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:20 PM (2DOZq)
*spoilers*



Well the movie is about Tom and Leo. Once Tom has resolved to leave Leo, that's the end of the story. Tom goes elsewhere, leaving Leo and Verna to each other.

This also fits the source material, so there's that too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:25 PM (xJa6I)

293 The Deuce is not near as great as I thought it would be.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:25 PM (PUmDY)

294 269 Mods...There's a vile turd of a troll comment on "Moving Beyond Judeo-Christianity" that I think you'd like to remove.
#460, the last one.



That was insane. It waited till hours later to post it.

Ryan Gosling was very good in 'Drive'. Of course his character had maybe 5 lines in the whole movie. Still, good flick.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 08:26 PM (WNAuL)

295 What About Mary is Elliot's best film.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:26 PM (2DOZq)

296 ''Ryan Gosling....he is terrible. Not a leading man, even though they keep casting him as such. Ruined already ruined BR 2049 some more.''

He is kind of blah isn't he?

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:26 PM (jm1YL)

297
John Steed got a bit gropey with the Doctor Who companion. Hey they redid this episode with Emma Peel

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 08:27 PM (SiINZ)

298 Ryan Gosling is a wet noodle

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:27 PM (BJlbN)

299 I saw one good sci fi movie last week (no not that one, the other one). Prospect. the guy who played Inigo Montoya in Game Of Thrones, here playing more of a Wash / Malcolm Reynolds scoundrel.

it is about a harvesting crew in some toxic planet, and there is no rule of law. also no budget. very good story though.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2019 08:27 PM (X/A4v)

300
The Deuce is not near as great as I thought it would be.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:25 PM (PUmDY)



Oh, I liked it. Why did you not like it ? I mean, what did not work for you ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:27 PM (bUjCl)

301 296 ''Ryan Gosling....he is terrible. Not a leading man, even though they keep casting him as such. Ruined already ruined BR 2049 some more.''

He is kind of blah isn't he?
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:26 PM (jm1YL)

I liked him in Drive and Stupid Crazy Love.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:27 PM (2DOZq)

302 288 Insomniac, I'm sorry it took me so long to find it.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:25 PM (uefWR)

Yeah, I was late to it as well. Fantastic show, though it was depressing as all hell. The cop turned schoolteacher was a really interesting bit for me, especially how he saw the same types of bureaucratic dysfunction in the school system as he'd seen in the police department.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 08:27 PM (NWiLs)

303 271 Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss were pure comedy gold in "What about Bob?"

IMHO, of course.
Posted by: Marybeth at February 09, 2019 08:22 PM (MEgUr)

I love 'What About Bob', it was a return to goofy Bill Murray, who had been missing for a long time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, link fixed at February 09, 2019 08:27 PM (xJa6I)

304 that he was offered and turned down the james bond role because he thought the books were sadistic (or that fleming was). guess he wasn't the only one.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:24 PM (Pg+x7)


I've read all of the Fleming books. I got the impression he didn't like Bond all that much.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 08:29 PM (SiINZ)

305 He is kind of blah isn't he?
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:26 PM (jm1YL)


Antipathetic (is that a word ?)

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:29 PM (bUjCl)

306 293 The Deuce is not near as great as I thought it would be.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:25 PM (PUmDY)

Some are more satisfying than others.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 08:29 PM (NWiLs)

307 ... btw, murray was outstanding in "tootsie".

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:29 PM (Pg+x7)

308 I loved Murray in "Lost in Translation". Loved, loved, loved. I always wondered about the scene in the Tokyo hospital where Murray's character cracks up the little Japanese old lady who can't speak English. Was that scripted or did he ad lib the whole thing?

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:29 PM (jm1YL)

309 It is very slow, the twin brothers story is tedious

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:29 PM (PUmDY)

310
OM or other mod, Brunette the 'Ette is right.

Very ugly troll comment at the end of the Moving Beyond Judeo-Christianity thread.

hash GoG2D

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 08:29 PM (786Ro)

311 That was insane. It waited till hours later to post it.

I think that is a tactic of theirs. I have seen a few threads where they jump in and hour or so after everyone left and type something vile.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 08:30 PM (n13/j)

312 The Wire was one of those TV shows where very lefty Hollywood accidentally told the truth about Modern Liberalism. It's almost a "Kinsley Gaffe".

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 08:30 PM (WNAuL)

313 The AAF is about to kick off. If you care.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 08:30 PM (+Tibp)

314 Ah, Albert Finney. He did a lot of good work, didn't he?

One of my favorites is "Two for the Road" with Audrey Hepburn.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 08:31 PM (Rxduq)

315 299 I saw one good sci fi movie last week (no not that one, the other one). Prospect. the guy who played Inigo Montoya in Game Of Thrones, here playing more of a Wash / Malcolm Reynolds scoundrel.

==

gonna check it out thanks

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:31 PM (BJlbN)

316 That was insane. It waited till hours later to post it.
-------------------
Yeah, that thread was still open in my phone browser from earlier today (I mostly lurk because I can't post with my Iphone (gives me an error message)) and I just picked it up again and saw that comment when it refreshed.

I did a double take and decided that was worth firing up the laptop to say something. I've never seen anything like that here before.

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 09, 2019 08:31 PM (adsVM)

317 Insomniac, I saw that the most in Carcetti winning the Mayoral race.

Makes me think of all the shit PDT is going through.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:31 PM (uefWR)

318
What about Bob?... good Murray flick... though Dreyfus almost steals the movie IMHO. Other good Murray flicks= Rushmore, Life Aquatic and the under rated The Man Who Knew Too Little.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 08:32 PM (LkFnL)

319 Chris Elliot is now in Schitts Creek which is really quirky but makes me laugh. Its where I learned about pan sexuals, so be forewarned.

Posted by: LASue at February 09, 2019 08:32 PM (XROPS)

320

I've read all of the Fleming books. I got the impression he didn't like Bond all that much.
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Bond banged his wife.

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2019 08:32 PM (25Dt7)

321 Rushmore was great.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:33 PM (PUmDY)

322 Michael Caine in "A Shock to the System ". A dark comedy about a man killing his way to corporate success.


"The Accountant" staring Ben Affleck is surprisingly good and his portrayal of an Autistic man is dead on.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at February 09, 2019 08:33 PM (bML9A)

323
I loved Murray in "Lost in Translation". Loved, loved, loved. I always
wondered about the scene in the Tokyo hospital where Murray's character
cracks up the little Japanese old lady who can't speak English. Was
that scripted or did he ad lib the whole thing?

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:29 PM (jm1YL)

That was a really good flick. I like it when comedians do serious roles, it often shows how talented they are. Comedy is probably harder than drama but somehow it is easy to forget that. My favorite comedian in dramatic roles was probably Robin Williams.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 08:34 PM (n13/j)

324 I like how Groundhog day showed him trying all sorts of wickedness - stealing money, running from the police, getting women (Like nancy the chipmunk lady), even killing himself - but then finding that after you do that a few dozen times, it all gets incredibly boring and tedious. Maybe it's fun doing it the first time, but having to do it over and over and over becomes a literal hell.

and at the end, because HE changes, what had been his Hell turns into his Heaven. But nothing has really changed except him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2019 08:34 PM (V2Yro)

325 Who ever Recommended Kingdom on Netflix Thank you, we loved it, It's a Korean Drama about the Prince Heir who thinks his Father is sick or Dead and the Queen and her Father are hiding it because she is pregnant and they use the excuse the King has SmallPox so the Prince must stay away, Then things get really crazy and I mean plot twist crazy, when the Prince tracts down the Doctor who took care of his Father.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 09, 2019 08:34 PM (ITfBP)

326 Ah, Albert Finney. He did a lot of good work, didn't he?

One of my favorites is "Two for the Road" with Audrey Hepburn.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 08:31 PM (Rxduq)



That's a good movie. It doesn't make it on TV all that much

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 08:35 PM (SiINZ)

327 Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 08:32 PM (LkFnL)

I'm also fond of Moonrise Kingdom and his vignette in Coffee and Cigarettes. And I liked St Vincent a lot. And Zombieland.

I pretty much like Bill Murray in anything at all.

Posted by: April at February 09, 2019 08:35 PM (OX9vb)

328 308 I loved Murray in "Lost in Translation". Loved, loved, loved. I always wondered about the scene in the Tokyo hospital where Murray's character cracks up the little Japanese old lady who can't speak English. Was that scripted or did he ad lib the whole thing?
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:29 PM (jm1YL)


Can't answer your question, but I thought it was a great movie too. Really freaked me out when Murray was doing that Rat Pack business in the commercial, and his face seemed to subtly change to match who he was imitating. Then I watched it again, much later, and didn't see the changes nearly as much. Maybe a big screen/small screen thing?

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 08:35 PM (ed8K1)

329 What about Bob - i like the two old people in the lake, who when they see Dreyfus' house on fire start cheering and yelling, "Burn! Burn! Burn!!!!"

It's the most honest movie about Psychiatrists that I can think of!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2019 08:35 PM (V2Yro)

330 304: in the interview with chandler fleming explains that he puts in the torture to provide a moral universe, that bond pays for his triumph over the bad guys and getting the girl.

i've read the bond books as well and was put off by the bouts of ragged violence. i think fleming just isn't that good a writer and needed those stock events to take the place of character development.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:35 PM (Pg+x7)

331
(I mostly lurk because I can't post with my Iphone (gives me an error message))

Brunette the 'Ette, if hogmartin was here instead of livin' The Lifestyle at the NoVaMoMe, he'd tell you to go into the settings & turn off "smart punctuation"

anyone have the link to hogmartin's helpful hints page?

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2019 08:36 PM (KCxzN)

332 Lost in Translation is a subtle, great movie.


Posted by: squeakywheel at February 09, 2019 08:36 PM (muUop)

333 I wish they still let David Milch run shows. Luck was getting excellent.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:37 PM (PUmDY)

334 324 I like how Groundhog day showed him trying all sorts of wickedness - stealing money, running from the police, getting women (Like nancy the chipmunk lady), even killing himself - but then finding that after you do that a few dozen times, it all gets incredibly boring and tedious. Maybe it's fun doing it the first time, but having to do it over and over and over becomes a literal hell.

and at the end, because HE changes, what had been his Hell turns into his Heaven. But nothing has really changed except him.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2019 08:34 PM (V2Yro)

There was a Twighlight Zone episode like that. it was Hell.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 08:37 PM (2DOZq)

335 314 Ah, Albert Finney. He did a lot of good work, didn't he?

One of my favorites is "Two for the Road" with Audrey Hepburn.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 08:31 PM (Rxduq)

LOOKER is a overlooked movie whose plot really holds up because we have the Technology to do what they want to actors and Actress.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 09, 2019 08:37 PM (ITfBP)

336 I didn't care for Lost in Translationfo
it had eye candy for the guys but it was dull imo

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:38 PM (BJlbN)

337
has there been any reports fro the NoVaMoMe?

it's been quiet...maybe too quiet

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2019 08:38 PM (KCxzN)

338 anyone have the link to hogmartin's helpful hints page?
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 09, 2019 08:36 PM (KCxzN)

I don't, have an iPhone, so give me a sec...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:38 PM (bUjCl)

339 Watched the Billy Zane Phantom movie last night. Something seemed a little off about it. Not bad though, just not worth a second viewing.

Billy Zane may have started the trend of actors getting extremely ripped for roles as opposed to body builders becoming actors.

Posted by: MAGA at February 09, 2019 08:38 PM (v5a7s)

340 Holy fucking shit I just saw the dumbest commercial ever. A bunch of "african americans" (who have most likely never been to africa) were asked what they would do if they had "white privilege" for a day. One of them said he would go into a bank and get a loan right away to start a business. Really? I can do that just because I am pale? Well whoop-de-fucking-do, my problems should already be over!


The sad thing is...there are people out there who believe this shit. And they vote.


We are so fucked...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 09, 2019 08:39 PM (vbvxt)

341 ''Can't answer your question, but I thought it was a great movie too. Really freaked me out when Murray was doing that Rat Pack business in the commercial, and his face seemed to subtly change to match who he was imitating. Then I watched it again, much later, and didn't see the changes nearly as much. Maybe a big screen/small screen thing?''

Probably. I was really struck by his performance whe I saw it in the theater. His and Scarlet Johansson's characters were soul mates not meant to be. Sweet and bittersweet.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:39 PM (jm1YL)

342 Testing...coming at you live from the iPhone!

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 09, 2019 08:39 PM (adsVM)

343 Did anyone else think John from Cincinnati was great?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:39 PM (PUmDY)

344 I feel such antipathy towards Andie MacDowell that I could not enjoy Groundhog Day.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 08:39 PM (/dN1M)

345 Some AOS moderator should take a look comment #460 on the Moving beyond Judeo-Christianity thread.

Might want to remove it

IMHO. it's very offensive

Posted by: REDACTED at February 09, 2019 08:40 PM (RZ6R1)

346
There was a Twighlight Zone episode like that. it was Hell.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation


Sebastian Cabot in whiteface.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2019 08:40 PM (aKsyK)

347 ok, google worked -->

Touch the Settings icon.
Select the General option.
Choose the Keyboard option.
Tap the button to the right of Smart Punctuation to turn it off...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:41 PM (bUjCl)

348 NoVaMoMe was LIT AF!

Lots of morons. We had CBD and WeirdDave and NGU and Bandersnatch and atc all come in from out of sector.

Weasel and bluebell earned their ampersands, let me tell you.

Honorable mentions to Muad' Dib and Ben Had for contributions.

Those I left out you are all awesome, too.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2019 08:41 PM (ZfRYq)

349 312 The Wire was one of those TV shows where very lefty Hollywood accidentally told the truth about Modern Liberalism. It's almost a "Kinsley Gaffe".
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 08:30 PM (WNAuL)

--Exactly.

And aside from the politics, Pembleton, G, and Bayliss from Homicide; and Prop Joe, McNulty, and Omar from The Wire were great, great characters (and just the tip of the proverbial iceberg).

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 08:41 PM (e7oj4)

350 I don't understand the Andi McDowell hate. She is gorgeous and apparently quite down to earth and has an adorable southern accent. I love her in 4 weddings and a funeral, even though her character is pretty despicable. That's a movie I'll watch any time its on, mainly because of her.

Posted by: LASue at February 09, 2019 08:41 PM (XROPS)

351 Well, I'll be danged...look at that!

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 09, 2019 08:41 PM (adsVM)

352 Never cared much for Groundhog Day.
Andie MacDowell used to live here in Asheville for quite awhile but moved a couple of years ago.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 09, 2019 08:41 PM (DjIXP)

353 Excellent meetup tonight. Great job by bluebell and weasel. Attendees included zod, alexthechick, bandersnatc, CBD, nevergiveup, hogmartin and many others. I expect a full report will follow.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 09, 2019 08:41 PM (ZxU8C)

354 Another Saturday Saturday night and another opportunity to find asymmetrical bear balls.

Posted by: Shep at February 09, 2019 08:42 PM (5Zv5F)

355 Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2019 08:41 PM (ZfRYq)

awesome!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:42 PM (BJlbN)

356 Holy fucking shit I just saw the dumbest commercial ever. A bunch of "african americans" (who have most likely never been to africa) were asked what they would do if they had "white privilege" for a day. One of them said he would go into a bank and get a loan right away to start a business. Really? I can do that just because I am pale? Well whoop-de-fucking-do, my problems should already be over!


The sad thing is...there are people out there who believe this shit. And they vote.


We are so fucked...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 09, 2019 08:39 PM (vbvxt)

Remember the Eddie Murphy on SNL when he dressed up as a White Man and entered the Bank to get a loan and the one Black Loan officer said he couldn't give him the loan and the President of the Bank steps in and says I will take care of it and gives him a loan when he just handed in a blank sheet of paper. Pay it back or don't and they laugh at the black loan officer.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 09, 2019 08:42 PM (ITfBP)

357 ''Another Saturday Saturday night and another opportunity to find asymmetrical bear balls.''

LOL

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:42 PM (jm1YL)

358 Evening, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2019 08:43 PM (nPGq2)

359 Thanks blaster!

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 08:43 PM (IcJtd)

360 333 I wish they still let David Milch run shows. Luck was getting excellent.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:37 PM (PUmDY)

--Deadwood FTW

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 08:43 PM (e7oj4)

361 FTR, I hate Groundhog Day. It's not because of the movie though.

You see, my first cruise on USS George Washington (CVN-73) was supposed to end on December 20, 1994. However, when we got into Norfolk the winds were so high that the tugs couldn't safely dock us. So we sat out in the basin for two days looking at the pier, with all of our friends and families looking back at us...and guess what the movie was for those two nights?

Yeah...I would have gladly choked the dude out who cued up that movie.

And the best part of it was...every night we would hear a helicopter taking off and the bell would ring..."USS George Washington...departing". Yeah, the skipper was going home every night and leaving us on board.

Rank has its privileges after all.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 09, 2019 08:43 PM (vbvxt)

362 The Wire when they talk about the inner City High Schools is soo damn true

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 09, 2019 08:44 PM (ITfBP)

363 Great ! First reports from NoVaMoMe...can't wait for the follow-up

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:44 PM (bUjCl)

364 Watched the Billy Zane Phantom movie last night. Something seemed a little off about it. Not bad though, just not worth a second viewing.

Billy Zane may have started the trend of actors getting extremely ripped for roles as opposed to body builders becoming actors.


Posted by: MAGA at February 09, 2019 08:38 PM


Phantom is ok. Not great or anything but the "something off" I think is largely due to it diverging from and lacking key elements of the old comic. It was a decent effort though. Zane worked... but I like Zane. He always makes things interesting.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 08:44 PM (LkFnL)

365 I don't understand the Andi McDowell hate. She is gorgeous and apparently quite down to earth and has an adorable southern accent. I love her in 4 weddings and a funeral, even though her character is pretty despicable. That's a movie I'll watch any time its on, mainly because of her.
Posted by: LASue at February 09, 2019 08:41 PM (XROPS)


I agree about Andie McDowell. I like her.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 09, 2019 08:44 PM (T71PA)

366 blaster, Did Weasel put on his T-Shirt?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 08:44 PM (uefWR)

367 I feel such antipathy towards Andie MacDowell that I could not enjoy Groundhog Day.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Why ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:44 PM (bUjCl)

368 Thanks, guys!

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 09, 2019 08:45 PM (adsVM)

369 the under rated The Man Who Knew Too Little.

Posted by: otho
Oh, I'll agree with this! Not a deep movie, but a simple premise worked beautifully. There's a scene that goes something like this. She's talking about him being a ruthless, merciless killer for hire. He thinks she's talking about his amateur acting talents.
How did you get to.....be like this?Oh, I was always interested in it. Did a little in high school, and then whenever I had the chance I'd do a little local stuff. Never got paid, of course, but I enjoyed it. Learned a few things. And then (---he works as a clerk in a video store---) I got to see the professional side of the business.

Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 08:45 PM (98pFy)

370 One other GHD type movie (that I keep mentioning be cuz I want people to see it) is
cruel and unusual - a Canadian film. Reliving the day you die or kill someone. Its intense but good.

Posted by: LASue at February 09, 2019 08:46 PM (XROPS)

371 Groundhog Day is definitely in my top ten favorites, love the whole movie, start to finish.

Edge of Tomorrow: I've no desire to rewatch once the repeating stops.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at February 09, 2019 08:47 PM (iouK0)

372 350i like andi macdowell, too.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:48 PM (Pg+x7)

373 A LIER UVF WODKA!

Posted by: Hillary at February 09, 2019 08:49 PM (5Zv5F)

374 ot but this is so awesome

https://twitter.com/IsraelUSAforevr/status/1094398102486896640

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:49 PM (BJlbN)

375 Vinyl was disappointing.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:50 PM (PUmDY)

376 I recently saw a teen-oriented film with this same theme of reliving a day - Before I Fall. Not bad for what it was really.

Happy Death Day had potential, but I thought it got way too convoluted.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 09, 2019 08:50 PM (H5knJ)

377 The Royal Tannenbaums for the win.

Posted by: LASue at February 09, 2019 08:51 PM (XROPS)

378 but this is so awesome

https://twitter.com/IsraelUSAforevr/status/1094398102486896640
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 08:49 PM (BJlbN)


Caesar Trump !

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:52 PM (bUjCl)

379 It was while Hills was passed out from shotgunning a 'lier uvf WODKA!" that little Chelsea was created.

Posted by: Clinton Family Lore at February 09, 2019 08:52 PM (5Zv5F)

380 Phantom is ok. Not great or anything but the "something off" I think is largely due to it diverging from and lacking key elements of the old comic. It was a decent effort though. Zane worked... but I like Zane. He always makes things interesting.
Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 08:44 PM (LkFnL)

-----

I don't know any of the Phantom mythos. It seemed like the action scenes weren't well thought at points and Treat Williams played the bad guy as a bit of a joke while also being a complete psychopath.

Posted by: MAGA at February 09, 2019 08:53 PM (v5a7s)

381 I think Andie MacDowell is a beautiful woman but I have disliked her in virtually every role I have ever seen her play. I think she was a poor choice for Groundhog Day and and equally bad choice in Four Weddings & a Funeral.

I think her character and Hugh Grant's character in 4W&AF were awful characters and were actually equally deserving of each the other in that move. And from what I know of the two of them, are equally awful people in real life.


Posted by: WarEagle82 at February 09, 2019 08:54 PM (+Kpte)

382
It was while Hills was passed out from shotgunning a 'lier uvf WODKA!" that little Chelsea was created.

Posted by: Clinton Family Lore at February 09, 2019 08:52 PM


she drank more than I did that night, and I was 'faced

Posted by: Webb Hubbel at February 09, 2019 08:54 PM (KCxzN)

383 ''I re-watched 'Out of the Past' last week, thanks to Razorfist reminding me of it. Mitchum is damn good in that movie, though you can't catch him acting in it.''

My favorite noir classic. Jane Greer was a great femme fatale. Very good actress who I think is almost forgotten.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:54 PM (jm1YL)

384 336 - I think Lost in Translation may be a guy film. Not sure why, but everyone I know who digs it is a guy. It leaves my wife cold. Probably in my Top 10 of films I can watch again and again.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 09, 2019 08:55 PM (H5knJ)

385 @Ben Had - Weasel was fully clothed and did not threaten to disrobe for us.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2019 08:55 PM (ZfRYq)

386 Some AOS moderator should take a look comment #460 on the Moving beyond Judeo-Christianity thread.

Might want to remove it

IMHO. it's very offensive
Posted by: REDACTED at February 09, 2019 08:40 PM (RZ6R1)

You are right. I noticed trolls like to mar semi-dead threads.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:55 PM (bUjCl)

387 Goodnight all! Here's hoping that next week is half as good as this week was !!!

Posted by: LASue at February 09, 2019 08:55 PM (XROPS)

388 Another actress that lived near here is Kelly McGillis. She actually had a stalker break into her house.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 09, 2019 08:56 PM (DjIXP)

389 ''I think Lost in Translation may be a guy film. Not sure why, but everyone I know who digs it is a guy. It leaves my wife cold. Probably in my Top 10 of films I can watch again and again.''

I'm a gal and I loved it.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 08:56 PM (jm1YL)

390 I don't care what anyone on this site says Groundhog Day is NOT a Christmas movie.

I love this movie and have since the first time I saw it in the theatre. A clever Twighlight Zone idea writ large and give a reductio ad asburdem treatment to the point that it jumps over "absurd" to "sublime".

Murra is perfect, Chris Elliot has two of the best lines ever delivered in movies:

Car goes over cliff in quarry - crashes* "He might be OK. *explosion* Well, no, probably not now"

and, in the morgue ID's the body with Andie McDowell horrified and crying:

"He was a really, really great guy. I really, really liked him. A lot."

A challenge anyone to say that line in a way that exhibits the true lack of caring over Murray's character's death that Elliot's character has at that stage of the movie - it is friggin hard.

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 09, 2019 08:57 PM (D7exD)

391 IMHO. it's very offensive
Posted by: REDACTED at February 09, 2019 08:40 PM (RZ6R1)

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No opinion needed, it is an offensive remark.

And, just as obviously, was made by someone who knows nothing about the Christian or Jewish faith.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 09, 2019 08:57 PM (WEBkv)

392 Andie MacDowell used to live here in Asheville for quite awhile but moved a couple of years ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Which is why/how I have a distaste for her. Personal contact.

How she managed to be cast in 'Greystoke' escapes me. Has any other actress *ever* been 100% overdubbed in a movie?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 08:58 PM (YvUf/)

393 35 I'm probably the only person who didn't mind Andie McDowell in that movie

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:21 PM

I didn't mind her in "Groundhog Day". Also thought she was fine in "Michael" and "Four Weddings and a Funeral" with Hugh Grant.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 09, 2019 08:58 PM (7A4qQ)

394 Lost in Translation. I sort of remember that one. It just felt like an indie, low budget film.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:58 PM (bUjCl)

395 In Asheville?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:58 PM (PUmDY)

396 It was not bad.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:58 PM (bUjCl)

397 ... oh, and ...

"cabin boy" ++

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 08:59 PM (Pg+x7)

398 Another actress that lived near here is Kelly McGillis. She actually had a stalker break into her house.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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A Les stalker, if I recall?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 08:59 PM (YvUf/)

399 it is about a harvesting crew in some toxic planet, and there is no rule of law. also no budget. very good story though.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2019 08:27 PM (X/A4v)


I saw the trailers for that, and it felt like a Klondike/NW Territories gold rush story. Was it?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2019 09:00 PM (mUa7G)

400 88
The problem is that he would have tired of this as well if he didn't think it had some ultimate value.

He has decided it's of value to him.

89
Curious are you an atheist? Altruistic actions have no ultimate value.

If it's just of value to him then he's just doing what he likes to do. If he likes killing people more than being nice to them, then he should do that. There's no reason not to.

Altruistic actions have ultimate value but they supposedly don't have any subjective motive, no reason for the individual to engage in them. And no I'm not an atheist, I'm a born again, Bible thumpin' Jesus freak.

Posted by: Jim S. at February 09, 2019 09:00 PM (ynUnH)

401 kindl, yeah

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2019 09:00 PM (X/A4v)

402 50 ''Don't get the Annie McDowell dislike. If she were a perfect hottie, it would just make Murray's falling in love a shallow, gotta get the hot broad movi''

I thought she came across as a very pretty lady who has no idea how pretty people think she is, in other words normal. Just a nice person.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 07:25 PM

Yep, this. I found her charming. Similar to her role in "Michael".

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 09, 2019 09:00 PM (7A4qQ)

403 Lost in Translation. I sort of remember that one. It just felt like an indie, low budget film.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:58 PM (bUjCl)

because it was. But I get your point, it wasn't for you. No worries there.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:00 PM (n13/j)

404 If you like Sci Fi short films and the Twilight Zone, DUST on YT is a cool...

ah fuck it.

Posted by: mikeyG at February 09, 2019 09:00 PM (LL1Be)

405 ''Another actress that lived near here is Kelly McGillis. She actually had a stalker break into her house. ''

Too bad about her. I really liked her in "Witness"'

Wonder if they'll mention her character in the "'Top Gun" sequel.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:01 PM (jm1YL)

406 >394 Lost in Translation. I sort of remember that one. It just felt like an indie, low budget film.
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 08:58 PM (bUjCl)




My favorite movie ever.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 09:01 PM (IcJtd)

407 because it was. But I get your point, it wasn't for you. No worries there.
Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:00 PM (n13/j)

No, you misunderstood. I liked it.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 09:02 PM (bUjCl)

408 ''Another actress that lived near here is Kelly McGillis. She actually had a stalker break into her house. ''



Too bad about her. I really liked her in "Witness"'



Wonder if they'll mention her character in the "'Top Gun" sequel.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:01 PM (jm1YL)

I loved Witness. It is easily in my top 15 movies of all time.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:03 PM (n13/j)

409 That was a really good flick. I like it when
comedians do serious roles, it often shows how talented they are. Comedy
is probably harder than drama but somehow it is easy to forget that. My
favorite comedian in dramatic roles was probably Robin Williams.
Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 08:34 PM (n13/j)


Jerry Lewis was in the TV series Wiseguy, and talentwise he blew the other actors out of the water.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2019 09:03 PM (mUa7G)

410 They did not need much money to make it. Just a hotel and some dialog.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 09:03 PM (bUjCl)

411 ''My favorite movie ever.''

My mom pipes up in the middle of the movie, "That's the same hotel your father and I stayed in when we were in Tokyo!'' Kind of loud too. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:03 PM (jm1YL)

412
because it was. But I get your point, it wasn't for you. No worries there.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:00 PM (n13/j)



No, you misunderstood. I liked it.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 09:02 PM (bUjCl)

Ahh. Misinterpreting the written word strikes again!

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:04 PM (n13/j)

413 I can't tell, is this movie getting an afterthought, "worth a rewatch", less shortcomings than ghostbusters? Tough crowd. appreciating what one has is hard; but where it's at. being a god is not all it's cracked up to be. when time loses value fungabilty is an abyss.

Posted by: in my top 5 1/2 the year at February 09, 2019 09:05 PM (KkKWo)

414 >My mom pipes up in the middle of the movie, "That's the same hotel your father and I stayed in when we were in Tokyo!'' Kind of loud too. LOL
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:03 PM



I used to spend 5-6 weeks a year in that hotel for work. The movie captures the otherness of being gaijin in Tokyo.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 09:06 PM (IcJtd)

415 TWD returns tomorrow night.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2019 09:07 PM (zLDYs)

416 Maybe we'll get more details about the NoVaMoMe after the booze wears off, ammo runs out, 'rons and 'ettes get out of the E.R., the fire dept puts out the blazes started by AtC's flamethrower, 'rons and 'ettes are released on their own recognizance, so on, etc.

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 09:07 PM (786Ro)

417 I loved Witness. It is easily in my top 15 movies of all time.
Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:03 PM (n13/j)



Good flick.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 09:08 PM (bUjCl)

418 Hey everybody.

Yay! Movie thread! And I'm able to participate this time! (Even if I'm late and the ONT is a-comin'.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:08 PM (miE9U)

419 Jerry Lewis in King of Comedy was awesome.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:08 PM (PUmDY)

420 ''Maybe we'll get more details about the NoVaMoMe after the booze wears off, ammo runs out, 'rons and 'ettes get out of the E.R., the fire dept puts out the blazes started by AtC's flamethrower, 'rons and 'ettes are released on their own recognizance, so on, etc.''

A good time was had by all I take it?

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:08 PM (jm1YL)

421 "A Les stalker, if I recall?

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

I think you are correct.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 09, 2019 09:09 PM (DjIXP)

422 Maybe we'll get more details about the NoVaMoMe after the booze wears off, ammo runs out, 'rons and 'ettes get out of the E.R., the fire dept puts out the blazes started by AtC's flamethrower, 'rons and 'ettes are released on their own recognizance, so on, etc.
Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 09:07 PM (786Ro)

what fun would that[/] be ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 09:09 PM (bUjCl)

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 09:09 PM (bUjCl)

424 One movie that's getting a lot of buzz for some reason right now:

The Abyss, and the turmoil that surrounded its production. What did people here think of it?
(And, it also featured Chris Elliott. The guy has a surprisingly good filmography.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:10 PM (miE9U)

425 Best line from Harry Brown:

"I want to shoot the pigeons off my roof."

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 09:10 PM (e7oj4)

426 "Keep your pantyhose on!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:10 PM (miE9U)

427 409 "... when comedians do dramatic roles..."

jackie gleason was excellent in "the hustler'. he brought real substance to his role as minnesota fats.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 09:11 PM (Pg+x7)

428
Re: War Games

Anyone ever notice the strange smile on Dr Falcon's face while they're desperately trying to disarm Wopper?

Falcon is smiling as he's watching Matthew Broderick figure it out, like he knows the solution all along OR he's smiling because he's AMUSED at the destruction of the World.

Which is it?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 09, 2019 09:12 PM (ah86I)

429 Movies I need to add to my collection, thanks to recommendations from TJM, Moviegique and the Horde:

- Sicario
- Groundhog Day
- Miracle on 34th Street
- It's a Wonderful Life
- Scrooged
- Network

...and others I'm sure I'll think of later...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:12 PM (miE9U)

430 My favorite comedian in dramatic roles was probably Robin Williams.
Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 08:34 PM (n13/j)

I have to disagree. I know he won an Oscar, but Oscars are a popularity contest. Williams only had two movie characters. Jonathan Winters on meth, and serious, non-smiling Williams.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 09, 2019 09:12 PM (3sjI6)

431 Jerry Lewis was in the TV series Wiseguy, and talentwise he blew the other actors out of the water.


Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2019 09:03 PM (mUa7G)

That would be worth checking out. I vaguely remember watching it a time or two a long time ago. I didn't stick with it.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:12 PM (n13/j)

432 Sooth, ah, War Games.
Back when Matthew Broderick was "a fresh young new talent."

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:13 PM (miE9U)

433 Kindltot, let me guess: Jerry Lewis played a much-feared mob boss?

It makes sense, given people feared Lewis in real life. He could really be a mean SOB sometimes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:14 PM (miE9U)

434 Best line from Harry Brown:

"I want to shoot the pigeons off my roof."
Posted by: logprof
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"You failed to maintain your weapon, son."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 09:14 PM (4bd7D)

435 Is Dabney Coleman alive? He was funny.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:14 PM (PUmDY)

436 To this day when I hear Jerry Lewis, I think of two things:

- the Labor Day telethon
- The King Of Comedy

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:14 PM (miE9U)

437 My favorite comedian in dramatic roles was probably Robin Williams.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 08:34 PM (n13/j)



I have to disagree. I know he won an Oscar, but Oscars are a
popularity contest. Williams only had two movie characters. Jonathan
Winters on meth, and serious, non-smiling Williams.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 09, 2019 09:12 PM (3sjI6)

I think he was good in Dead Poet's Society and Insomnia. The movie I thought his acting stood out in was The Fisher King. But I only saw it once and that was a long time ago. I wonder what a rewatch would bring?

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:14 PM (n13/j)

438 409 "... when comedians do dramatic roles..."

Robin Williams in "One-Hour Photo."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 09, 2019 09:14 PM (ZxU8C)

439 ''jackie gleason was excellent in "the hustler'. he brought real substance to his role as minnesota fats.''

He did little vignettes every Saturday night on his show. He was very talented.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:15 PM (jm1YL)

440 Robin Williams in "One-Hour Photo."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Yes. Heart breaking.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 09:15 PM (+Tibp)

441 The Wire is the GOAT. Best ensemble cast ever. Fifty characters have arcs over seasons.

David Simon hogs credit, but Ed Burns -- a former Baltimore homicide detective -- was a co-creator.

The central character is the city of Baltimore.

A big message is that individuals can find redemption, but institutions will always fail us in the end. I hear a cop's voice in that.


Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 09:16 PM (1UZdv)

442 Comedians in serious roles?

I know Jim Gaffigan is in Chappaquiddick as one of Teddy K's cronies. One of the reasons I want to see it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:16 PM (miE9U)

443 Ta Da!

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 09, 2019 09:16 PM (eFvJk)

444 420 ''Maybe we'll get more details about the NoVaMoMe after the booze wears off, ammo runs out, 'rons and 'ettes get out of the E.R., the fire dept puts out the blazes started by AtC's flamethrower, 'rons and 'ettes are released on their own recognizance, so on, etc.''

A good time was had by all I take it?
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:08 PM (jm1YL)

I'm here to say everybody is ten times as good looking as you thought they would be, based on their nics. Some truly lovely people!

Posted by: moki at February 09, 2019 09:16 PM (mFoNl)

445 Blutarski, great film... but the ending, I admit, was kind of a giant "WTF??!" for me.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:16 PM (miE9U)

446 392---How she managed to be cast in 'Greystoke' escapes me. Has any other actress *ever* been 100% overdubbed in a movie?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 08:58 PM (YvUf/)
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Hmmm. It seems that was her first role ever. She was a very successful model, someone saw her, and so it went.
Hmmm.

Anyway, they thought her Southern accent was too pronounced to play a Brit and she couldn't learn to tone it down in time.

Why on earth would you cast her for the role then?
Weird.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 09:17 PM (Rxduq)

447 ... when comedians do dramatic roles..."



jackie gleason was excellent in "the hustler'. he brought real substance to his role as minnesota fats.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 09:11 PM (Pg+x7)

He was really good.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:17 PM (n13/j)

448 ''Why on earth would you cast her for the role then?
Weird. ''

She was beautiful and looked adorable when Tarzan cuddles up to her in her bed.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:18 PM (jm1YL)

449 Why on earth would you cast her for the role then?
Weird.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille
-------------

I'm not saying Occam's razor, but, Occam's razor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 09:18 PM (2qPhT)

450 TWD returns tomorrow night.
Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2019 09:07 PM (zLDYs)

I was all in on that show, for a long time. But Season 7 was that moment when I realized that this a world without hope. I am not averse to dystopian stories, but TWD became exhausting. Creating loveable characters only to have them snuffed in gruesome fashion.

I actually wrote a quick short story set in the Walking Dead World in the foothills of the Bighorn Mountains, where the geeks were taken out quickly (mostly because the entire population of Wyoming is less than the suburbs of many cities), and Folks in Wyoming have guns aplenty and know how to shoot.

It was a kind of therapy for me.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 09, 2019 09:19 PM (FXbwN)

451 343
Did anyone else think John from Cincinnati was great?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:39 PM (PUmDY)

Yes, me.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Cub Fan at February 09, 2019 09:19 PM (8iiMU)

452 the abyss? i liked it and was very impressed when it came out, although i thought the insane military characters was over the top. then i saw the director's cut years later and saw the material edited out at the end which was just another rotten, simplistic attack on reagan. when it was released in 1989 it was blatantly out of touch as the cold war was over and reagan had been proven right.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 09:19 PM (Pg+x7)

453 I didn't see Mary Cloggenstein at the meetup.

Should I be concerned?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 09, 2019 09:19 PM (ZxU8C)

454 As a wee lass, I liked Sean Connery in "Darby O'Gill and the Little People". It was a fluff supporting role for him, but even at my young age, I could tell that he was a handsome charmer!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 09, 2019 09:20 PM (uDcBt)

455 ''I'm here to say everybody is ten times as good looking as you thought they would be, based on their nics. Some truly lovely people!''

You're setting the bar way high for us average looking 'rons and 'ettes. We might get inferiority complexes.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:20 PM (jm1YL)

456
Comedians in serious roles?



I know Jim Gaffigan is in Chappaquiddick as one of Teddy K's cronies. One of the reasons I want to see it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:16 PM (miE9U)

Was it any good?

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:20 PM (n13/j)

457
Our President:

Today Elizabeth Warren, sometimes referred to by me as Pocahontas, joined the race for President. Will she run as our first Native American presidential candidate, or has she decided that after 32 years, this is not playing so well anymore? See you on the campaign TRAIL, Liz!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 09, 2019 09:20 PM (ah86I)

458 >>Why on earth would you cast her for the role then?
Weird.



After the Harvey Weinstein stuff came out?
They cast women they want to see naked and bang, and Andi was beautiful.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 09, 2019 09:21 PM (W+vEI)

459 Anyway, they thought her Southern accent was too pronounced to play a Brit and she couldn't learn to tone it down in time.

Why on earth would you cast her for the role then?
Weird.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 09:17 PM (Rxduq)


Ahnold was dubded in some movie, too. Great actor that he was/is..Hollywood always goes with a "type". The rest they can glue on.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 09:21 PM (bUjCl)

460 I didn't see Mary Cloggenstein at the meetup.

Should I be concerned?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 09, 2019 09:19 PM (ZxU8C)

(Jump to top of page)

You didn't see a pasty white girl wearing a flannel dress embroidered with Sanskrit prayers, with Birkenstocks on her dinner roll feet?

Huh.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 09, 2019 09:22 PM (FXbwN)

461 ''As a wee lass, I liked Sean Connery in "Darby O'Gill and the Little People".''

Oh gosh. I remember that. The black cat named Thomasina? Am I remembering the right Disney movie?

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:22 PM (jm1YL)

462 musical jolly chimp, I don't remember the anti-Reagan stuff. Maybe the version I saw was the original theatrical.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:22 PM (miE9U)

463 Agreed about Murray's performance in "Get Low" --- absolutely top-notch --- but the movie was a big disappointment to me.

The concept had potential and it started strong but it ended up a contrived melodrama.

It just did not work for me at all.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 08:10 PM (Rxduq)-------------

I was rooting for the Seals, anything to shut Mastrantonio up.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 09, 2019 09:22 PM (eFvJk)

464 I thought Lost In Translation was OK, but I felt it was way overrated. I think Francis bought some critical praise so Sofia could have a niche in the business. She sure wasn't a actress, as Godfather III showed. And frankly, I think Marie Antoinette showed she wasn't a top-notch director, either. I mean, come on! The song I Want Candy in the soundtrack of an 18th century period piece. Really?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 09, 2019 09:22 PM (3sjI6)

465 "I liked Sean Connery in "Darby O'Gill and the Little People".

One of the worst Irish accents of all time. Ironic, because Ser Sean is part Irish, but raised in Edinburgh

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 09:23 PM (1UZdv)

466 Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:12 PM (miE9U)

--Seriously qdp, Network not in your collection?

You're making me consider dropping you from my dream team.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 09:23 PM (e7oj4)

467 Did anyone here ever see "'Night, Mother"? It starred Sissy Spacek and Anne Bancroft.

I admit it annoyed me a ton when it first came out in around 1984. I thought it was a PC pro-suicide movie. Was I right? Wrong?

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:23 PM (miE9U)

468 One movie that's getting a lot of buzz for some reason right now:

The Abyss, and the turmoil that surrounded its production. What did people here think of it?
(And, it also featured Chris Elliott. The guy has a surprisingly good filmography.)


Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:10 PM


It's an interesting film and looks great. But it suffers from infuriating, annoying "good guys" that piss me off. I'm on team Michael Biehn...if I was stuck down there with them, I'd go crazy and want to kill them all too.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 09:23 PM (LkFnL)

469 I watched "Chappaquiddick" and I thought it was an honest treatment of the whole affair.
The scene of Mary Jo's drowning death is very uncomfortable to watch, as it should have been.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 09, 2019 09:23 PM (w7KSn)

470 logprof, Network is unofficially in my collection.
(I have an old off-the-air recording of it, but I want to upgrade to the bluray.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:24 PM (miE9U)

471 Pug, I think TWD happened due to a effed-up biological warfare experiment, thus killing them off with the fatal disease thing Eugene talked about appeals to me. Until then, we can just kill them buffet style. But yeah, I'm tired of tying up my time watching it when I could be talking gubs here.

Posted by: Eromero at February 09, 2019 09:24 PM (zLDYs)

472 Insomnia is underrated.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 09, 2019 09:25 PM (H5knJ)

473 A big message is that individuals can find redemption, but institutions will always fail us in the end. I hear a cop's voice in that.


Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 09:16 PM (1UZdv)

--That is a great way of summing it all up.

P.S. I'm stealing it.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 09:25 PM (e7oj4)

474 Sure, Sean Connery sucks at accents. His natural accent is fucking-a awesome.

Kevin Costner sounds like Elmer Fudd when he tries to do an accent. Dunt mean he's a shitty actor.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 09, 2019 09:25 PM (FXbwN)

475 otho, Ed O'Neill is always grating IMHO ;-)
He has the same asshole smirk on his face all the time that my now-estranged dad did...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:25 PM (miE9U)

476 452 the abyss? i liked it and was very impressed when it came out, although i thought the insane military characters was over the top. then i saw the director's cut years later and saw the material edited out at the end which was just another rotten, simplistic attack on reagan. when it was released in 1989 it was blatantly out of touch as the cold war was over and reagan had been proven right.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp



James Cameron is an insane, raging, lefty. So's Ed Harris. Hell of an actor but a hard left scumbag.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 09:25 PM (WNAuL)

477 Wait, not Ed O'Neill. Ed Harris!

Ed O'Neill I like a lot, especially in (of course) MWC.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:26 PM (miE9U)

478 Oh gosh. I remember that. The black cat named Thomasina? Am I remembering the right Disney movie?

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:22 PM (jm1YL)

Thomasina was a movie in its own right, IIRC. I thought the cat was dun-colored. But it's been a few decades.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2019 09:26 PM (nPGq2)

479 Puddleglum, that's exactly what I meant to say about Ed Harris.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:26 PM (miE9U)

480 ''Hell of an actor but a hard left scumbag.''

Too bad they all have to open their big mouths.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:27 PM (jm1YL)

481 Otho, saw a live Bela Lugosi's Dead for the first time last night.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:28 PM (PUmDY)

482 Worst accents were in "Highlanbder."

Sean Connery, who is Scottish, played a Spaniard with a Scottish accent. Trainwreck.

Christopher Lambert, who is French, played a Scotsmen with a French accent. Dumpster fire.

It was almost as if they wanted to make it comical.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 09, 2019 09:29 PM (ZxU8C)

483 Did anyone else think John from Cincinnati was great?



Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:39 PM (PUmDY
I have never even heard of it.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:29 PM (n13/j)

484 Harry Brown
Man on Fire
Enemy of the State ( the new, new FBI!)

but mainly a fan of the 30's,40's 50's movies.

Posted by: free tibet at February 09, 2019 09:29 PM (C47yV)

485 when comedians do dramatic role


Yes, they can be pretty good.

Richard Pryor in Blue Collar
Kristin Wiig in Hateship Loveship

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 09:29 PM (786Ro)

486 deleted scenes - there was a house fire - probably too exciting for the movie so it got cut...

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 09:29 PM (BJlbN)

487 470 logprof, Network is unofficially in my collection.
(I have an old off-the-air recording of it, but I want to upgrade to the bluray.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:24 PM (miE9U)

--Howard Beale is a proto-Moron.

And TMC loved comparing him to Trump. Which is a compliment to The Donald.



As for comic actors in serious roles, Adam Sandler in Reign Over Me is good, while Don Cheadle in the same flick goes more on the comic side well.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 09:29 PM (e7oj4)

488 ddb steve: the anti-reagan, anti-military polemic appears near the end when the hero is in the alien spaceship and is shown videos of man's (the u.s.) disasterous brink of catastrophe which compelled the aliens to reveal themselves. it is much more extensive in the director's cut.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 09:29 PM (Pg+x7)

489 '''Thomasina was a movie in its own right, IIRC. I thought the cat was dun-colored. But it's been a few decades.''

I'm going to have to hit IMDB for clarification.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:30 PM (jm1YL)

490 I liked Andi McDowell in Sex Lies and Videotape.

Pretty much a bunch of screwed up people trying to deal with life as they try as hard as possible to make it all come apart.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2019 09:30 PM (mUa7G)

491 Shit. this thread is all over the place.

I liked The Abyss. Ed Harris is a good actor, but a dickweed in meat world.

Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio is one of those actresses who is not cheesecake material, yet appeals to me. She's saucy.

As for the movie, it was uneven. The alien thing need not have happened. But the undersea adventure part with the hurricane above was really good.

Michael Biehn does military/cop really well.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 09, 2019 09:30 PM (FXbwN)

492 ... at least that's how i read it.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 09:30 PM (Pg+x7)

493 482 Worst accents were in "Highlanbder."

Sean Connery, who is Scottish, played a Spaniard with a Scottish accent. Trainwreck.

Christopher Lambert, who is French, played a Scotsmen with a French accent. Dumpster fire.

It was almost as if they wanted to make it comical.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot



And yet I find that movie very watchable. I enjoyed it. The Queen soundtrack is brilliant!

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 09:30 PM (WNAuL)

494 Man on Fire
Harry Brown
Criminal

Posted by: Ben Had at February 09, 2019 09:30 PM (uefWR)

495 musical jolly chimp, oh yeah, NOW I remember that.
I admit I tuned out when I saw it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:31 PM (miE9U)

496 It was show after Deadwood that Milch did on hbo.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:31 PM (PUmDY)

497 Worst accents were in "Highlanbder."

Sean Connery, who is Scottish, played a Spaniard with a Scottish accent. Trainwreck.

Christopher Lambert, who is French, played a Scotsmen with a French accent. Dumpster fire.

It was almost as if they wanted to make it comical.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 09, 2019 09:29 PM (ZxU8C)

Does not matter. I fucking love Highlander.

It just works. Prolly a generational thing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 09, 2019 09:32 PM (FXbwN)

498 The NoVaMoMe was awesome. It made me vow to be less of a lurker, more of a commentor. Y'all are so prolific, though!
I love Lost in Translation. It perfectly captures the dreamy feel of jet lag and alienation when you travel to Tokyo.
I am also always Team Michael Biehn. I rewatched Terminator recently, and he's so good in it.
And Highlander for Sean Connery. You can tell that I like weird sci-fi and fantasy flicks, can't you?




Posted by: Beltway Elite at February 09, 2019 09:32 PM (b6kHD)

499 This week, we watched "Roxanne" with Steve Martin and Daryl Hannah. Sweet, funny movie. My 17-year-old daughter tuned out, but my 22-year-son laughed with us.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at February 09, 2019 09:33 PM (THS4q)

500 ''As for comic actors in serious roles, Adam Sandler in Reign Over Me is good, while Don Cheadle in the same flick goes more on the comic side well.''

'Punch Drunk Love" Thought he was very good in that one.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:33 PM (jm1YL)

501 s Dabney Coleman alive? He was funny.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:14 PM (PUmDY)


----

He recently had an appearance on NCIS and he looked like he wasn't long for this world.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 09, 2019 09:33 PM (p0nVR)

502 Best non-Bond Connery is either The Untouchables or Hunt For Red October.

Posted by: Rusty Nail

I liked Outland - thought he let his age and who he was all out there - but that might have already been mentioned - this is a 500 post thread already

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 09:33 PM (32YRo)

503 467 Did anyone here ever see "'Night, Mother"? It starred Sissy Spacek and Anne Bancroft.

Yeah, I remember that. And I had read the play first. But it was a long time ago, and now I can't remember a damn thing about it.

Given my general frame of mind at the time, I'm sure it must have been something ultra feminist, but not necessarily pro-suicide.

But suicide reminds me of The Virgin Suicides. Anybody see that one? Heartbreaking, really.

Posted by: April at February 09, 2019 09:33 PM (OX9vb)

504
jackie gleason was excellent in "the hustler'. he brought real substance to his role as minnesota fats.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp


Also Requiem for a Heavyweight

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056406

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2019 09:33 PM (aKsyK)

505 What is best non -Bond Sean Connery movie?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 09, 2019 07:51 PM

I'm sure all his good ones have been posted by others by now.

I liked him as the voice of Draco in "Dragonheart". And he was good as King Arthur in "First Knight".

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 09, 2019 09:33 PM (7A4qQ)

506 I just want to facepunch the director and screenwriter of First Man right now.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 09:34 PM (BJlbN)

507 I like The Abyss but I thought the theatrical ending was not fleshed out.

Posted by: MAGA at February 09, 2019 09:34 PM (v5a7s)

508 We should still implement my Fart-Tube plan to capture human emmissions of Geedhouse gases !!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattlboro, VT at February 09, 2019 09:34 PM (qM84C)

509 ''And Highlander for Sean Connery. You can tell that I like weird sci-fi and fantasy flicks, can't you?''

That's ok. I do too.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:34 PM (jm1YL)

510 Arguably Dan Ackroyd can be a very good dramatic actor. At least half of his role in Trading Places, one of my favorite comedies, is a pure portrayal of the rich, pampered man who loses everything, and I think he does an amazing job with it.

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 09:34 PM (ed8K1)

511 Also Roxanne Hart in Highlander was smokin' hot in that 80's era kind of way! So yes, probably a generational thing.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 09:34 PM (WNAuL)

512 438 409 "... when comedians do dramatic roles..."

Robin Williams in "One-Hour Photo."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 09, 2019 09:14 PM (ZxU8C)

Good movie. Very disturbing.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 09:34 PM (NWiLs)

513 The Toy was a good movie.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:34 PM (PUmDY)

514 How do you get paragraph breaks to show up? This didn't happen to me until recently.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at February 09, 2019 09:34 PM (b6kHD)

515 Sean Connery, who is Scottish, played a Spaniard with a Scottish accent. Trainwreck.

I thought he was Welsh - could be wrong about that...

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 09:35 PM (32YRo)

516 428


Re: War Games



Anyone ever notice the strange smile on Dr Falcon's face while they're desperately trying to disarm Wopper?



Falcon is smiling as he's watching Matthew Broderick figure it out,
like he knows the solution all along OR he's smiling because he's AMUSED
at the destruction of the World.



Which is it?
Neither. He's enjoying Broderick trying to solve the problem. It reminds him of his dead son. He's enjoying intellectual pursuit, regardless of whether it "works" or not.

Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 09:35 PM (98pFy)

517 424
Corrected, posted a response to the incorrect comment:

One movie that's getting a lot of buzz for some reason right now:



The Abyss, and the turmoil that surrounded its production. What did people here think of it?

(And, it also featured Chris Elliott. The guy has a surprisingly good filmography.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:10 PM (miE9U)
-------------

I was rooting for the Seals, anything to shut Mastrantonio up.
No more scotch for me.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 09, 2019 09:35 PM (eFvJk)

518 NO, NO to Dan Ackroyd ! In any shape or form.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 09:35 PM (bUjCl)

519 502 Best non-Bond Connery is either The Untouchables or Hunt For Red October.

Gave us two great lines that I often use in life:

1. "What are you prepared to do?"

2. "One ping. One ping only."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 09, 2019 09:36 PM (ZxU8C)

520 My favorite scene lasts ~8 seconds. It's maybe 10 min in ( day 3?).

He doesn't believe what seems to be likely happening, so he breaks the pencil and tosses the pieces. 6:00 rolls around and he sits up promptly, immediately reluctantly glances left to where the pencil rests; and it's there whole.

So, in proper fashion, he putteringly scans the room looking for the perpetrator, who must be around, and, at the same time, won't be because the evidence is all too damning.

Murray is prime time there imo. His face is surreal.

Posted by: Top 5 today sir at February 09, 2019 09:36 PM (KkKWo)

521 Otho, saw a live Bela Lugosi's Dead for the first time last night.


Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:28 PM


Bauhaus?

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 09:36 PM (LkFnL)

522 Some inside baseball on what I think is the best accent ever -- Michael Fassbender's German in Inglorious Basterds -- which is a plot point.

Fassbender is German-Irish, raised in County Kerry, but he'd summer with relatives in Germany and became fluent. But his accent betrays him, subtly

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 09:36 PM (1UZdv)

523 James Cameron is an insane, raging, lefty. So's Ed Harris. Hell of an actor but a hard left scumbag.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 09:25 PM (WNAuL)

I don't like judging famous people. No matter who the famous person is, you have all kinds of people who ran into them on a given day, and then tell people the rest of their lives how the guy is a jerk etc. But I agree about those two. Cameron is obviously a lefty and megalomaniac. Ed Harris just seems mean and possibly disturbed. I remember watching a video where he was being interviewed, he reacted to some standard question by hitting the table so hard the entire room gasped and jumped. The guy seemed "off"

The other time his character stood out was when Elie Kazan got his Oscar. Other lefties clapped for him but Ed Harris and his beau made a point of sitting and pouting. As if their opinions were of great value.
https://tinyurl.com/yxu9pqx7

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:37 PM (n13/j)

524 ''I just want to facepunch the director and screenwriter of First Man right now.''

Absolutely no desire to see that movie. Watched the landing on TV when it happened. Grew up during the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs. Do not want to see them interpreted by lefty Hollywood types who probably weren't even born when they happened. No thank you.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:37 PM (jm1YL)

525 So no mention of how Groundhog Day led to Murray cutting Ramis off for 21 years?
Or that they argued about whether to be more philosophical (Murray) or just go for the comedy (Ramis)?
I'd say that was at least a bit relevant given what made the film so good.

Oh, and like others say, The Razor's Edge was quite good. While the comedy's he did after it were certainly amazing, Murray deserved much more credit than he received for his first dramatic role.

Posted by: Sam at February 09, 2019 09:38 PM (YScgw)

526 I thought he was Welsh - could be wrong about that...


Scottish. Edinburgh. Named my son after him.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 09, 2019 09:38 PM (ZxU8C)

527 Oh, good, late, but not too late, for the movie thread.

Our copy of Groundhog Day wasn't at home, so on the 2nd we watched Galaxy Quest, then watched Groundhog Day on the 3rd. Close enough.

Funny thing.

So Ace of Spades was posting on his blog
I Say, Was Anyone Else Rather Put Off By the Boisterous Patriotism of the Proles?
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=379633

And in that post, Ace linked to a clip
https://youtu.be/3X8istCTeQE
Fancy Lad

Which clip was from the movie
Cabin Boy (1994)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109361/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

which movie was written by and starred
Chris Elliott
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0254402/?ref_=tt_cl_t1

whom we had just seen
as Larry the cameraman in
Groundhog Day (1993)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_78

And I remembered thinking,
was that the same guy who was
the tall burglar in
Home Alone (1990)?

No, the tall burglar was
Daniel Stone
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0827663/?ref_=tt_cl_t3

however,

in the animated TV series
Dilbert (1999-2000)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118984/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_54
Daniel Stern voiced Dilbert,
and
Chris Elliott voiced Dogbert.

What are the odds?

Posted by: mindful webworker's coincidental incident at February 09, 2019 09:38 PM (GJEvA)

528 Murphy and David J

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:38 PM (PUmDY)

529 522 Some inside baseball on what I think is the best accent ever -- Michael Fassbender's German in Inglorious Basterds -- which is a plot point.

Fassbender is German-Irish, raised in County Kerry, but he'd summer with relatives in Germany and became fluent. But his accent betrays him, subtly
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 09:36 PM (1UZdv)

It's the way he signals the number 3 with his fingers. He does it American style (index, middle, ring) instead of German style (thumb, index, middle).

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 09:39 PM (NWiLs)

530 Don't remember The Abyss movie, but I remember that the book blew me away and the movie did not.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2019 09:39 PM (OL46y)

531 Scottish. Edinburgh. Named my son after him.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Aw - he fooled me with the lisp!

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 09:39 PM (32YRo)

532 ''NO, NO to Dan Ackroyd ! In any shape or form.''

He was good in "Driving Miss Daisy"

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:40 PM (jm1YL)

533 We need to have a revenge flick Movie Thread.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 09:40 PM (e7oj4)

534
One movie that's getting a lot of buzz for some reason right now:

The Abyss, and the turmoil that surrounded its production. What did people here think of it?
(And, it also featured Chris Elliott. The guy has a surprisingly good filmography.)


Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:10 PM


It's an interesting film and looks great. But it suffers from infuriating, annoying "good guys" that piss me off. I'm on team Michael Biehn...if I was stuck down there with them, I'd go crazy and want to kill them all too.
Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 09:23 PM (LkFnL)









Watching Ed Harris talk about The Abyss on Inside the Actor's Studio made me realize that he's a fucking pansy-assed wussy cocksucker. He was bitching about doing all that physical underwater work, saying to himself "THIS is acting????"

Yes it is, you poofter fucktard. If anything, it's among the most difficult types of acting. Emoting and being true to the character while engaged in exhausting physical activity to portray the character's situation.... yeah, I'm gonna call that acting. In spades.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 09, 2019 09:40 PM (eXA4G)

535 There's the thing about Fassbender having to explain his unusual German accent, which aroused suspicion

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 09:41 PM (1UZdv)

536 I came across a couple new (to me) movies on Netflix tonight. Any thoughts on "6 Days" or "22 July"?

Both are based on true stories. "6 Days" stars Jamie Bell and Mark Strong and I think is based on the Iranian Embassy takeover in 1980 and elite British soldiers' raid.

Have them in my queue to watch next.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 09, 2019 09:41 PM (7A4qQ)

537 Oh, and Dana Loesche is hot.









Especially when she's off the beets.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 09:41 PM (e7oj4)

538 He was better in Neighbors.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:41 PM (PUmDY)

539

First womyn Nell Armstrong

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2019 09:41 PM (aKsyK)

540 1. "What are you prepared to do?"



2. "One ping. One ping only."
If you have to fire - stay low, and squeeze. And put your man down. 'Cause he'd do the same to you....Shoot to kill...Did you hear what I said?
Yes I did. Shoot to kill.

Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 09:41 PM (98pFy)

541 He was good in "Driving Miss Daisy"




Unless he played miss Daisy.. I don't remember him...Who did he play ? I admit, I don't remember the movie well at all.

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 09:42 PM (bUjCl)

542 Posted by: Beltway Elite at February 09, 2019 09:32 PM (b6kHD)

I love Lost in Translation. You summed it up well. The pacing is odd, the ambience is tranquil, except for those oddly frantic scenes with young Japanese people.

Such a loveably weird movie.

Plus Bill Murray. And Scarlett in panties.

Win win.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 09, 2019 09:42 PM (FXbwN)

543 541 He was good in "Driving Miss Daisy"




Unless he played miss Daisy.. I don't remember him...Who did he play ? I admit, I don't remember the movie well at all.
Posted by: runner



Miss Daisy's son.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 09:43 PM (WNAuL)

544

If you have to shoot, shoot. Don't ping.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 09, 2019 09:43 PM (aKsyK)

545 ''Unless he played miss Daisy.. I don't remember him...Who did he play ? I admit, I don't remember the movie well at all.''

Her son

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:43 PM (jm1YL)

546 483
Did anyone else think John from Cincinnati was great?





Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 08:39 PM (PUmDY
I have never even heard of it.


Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:29 PM (n13/j)

Wikipedia says the series started after the Sopranos ended, but I seem to recall it was after Deadwood also, unless I'm conflating Deadwood and John From Cincinnati with Milch.
A mysterious person arrives in the surfer town of Imperial Beach. Tough to explain after that (lol). Bruce Greenwod, Rebecca De Mornay, Ed O'Neill, and Luke Perry are in it, along with some Deadwood refugees.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Cub Fan at February 09, 2019 09:44 PM (8iiMU)

547 otho, Ed O'Neill is always grating IMHO ;-)
He has the same asshole smirk on his face all the time that my now-estranged dad did...
Posted by: qdpsteve

I've seen it dozens of times, but I recently realized that Ed O'Neill is in Dogs of War. He's the one that doesn't go.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 09:44 PM (+Tibp)

548 ''There's the thing about Fassbender having to explain his unusual German accent, which aroused suspicion''

He is certainly a very nice looking man. My first thought when he appeared on the screen in "Inglorious Basterds"

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:45 PM (jm1YL)

549 It was definitely after Deadwood.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:45 PM (PUmDY)

550 >>Does not matter. I fucking love Highlander.

It just works. Prolly a generational thing.




Yes! Love it! Love that Clancy Brown, the big bad, went on to voice Mr. Crabs on SpongeBob.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 09, 2019 09:46 PM (W+vEI)

551
547 otho, Ed O'Neill is always grating IMHO ;-)
He has the same asshole smirk on his face all the time that my now-estranged dad did...
Posted by: qdpsteve

I've seen it dozens of times, but I recently realized that Ed O'Neill is in Dogs of War. He's the one that doesn't go.
Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 09:44 PM (+Tibp)







He's also in Mamet's film, Spartan. But that one is after Married with Children, and even though his small part is acted well, you can't shake the idea that Al Bundy being a cold-blooded political/security operative is silly.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 09, 2019 09:47 PM (eXA4G)

552 503---But suicide reminds me of The Virgin Suicides. Anybody see that one? Heartbreaking, really.
Posted by: April at February 09, 2019 09:33 PM (OX9vb)
---------------------------------
Such a sad tale.
But I did my best not to burst out laughing too often.

(It's odd how movies affect people differently!)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 09:48 PM (Rxduq)

553 "you can't shake the idea that Al Bundy being a cold-blooded political/security operative is silly."

I call it the Norman Bates Anthony Perkins Syndrome. It's ruined many an acting career

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 09:49 PM (1UZdv)

554 Blutarski: I meant Ed Harris.
Ed O'Neill is someone I like a lot. :-)

Quint, yup. To this day, I have a lot of respect for Warren Beatty, because he stood to applaud when Elia Kazan got his honorary Oscar.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:49 PM (miE9U)

555 No, the tall burglar was

Daniel Stone

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0827663/?ref_=tt_cl_t3
Daniel Stern. He was good in City Slickers and the underrated City Slickers 2. I kind of kid about City Slickers 2 but still liked it.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:50 PM (n13/j)

556 ITC: I meant Ed Harris. I LIKE Ed O'Neill.
Sorry for the confusion, but I seem to have started a discussion of O'Neill as well as Harris, which is okay. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:50 PM (miE9U)

557 >>But I did my best not to burst out laughing too often.


Yeah, that movie did nothing for me.
I seem to be immune to Sofia Copola's directorial charms.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 09, 2019 09:50 PM (W+vEI)

558 He is certainly a very nice looking man. My first thought when he appeared on the screen in "Inglorious Basterds"
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:45 PM (jm1YL)

Fassbender was in Band of Brothers.

as was Tom Hardy.
and Simon Pegg.
and James McAvoy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (FXbwN)

559 Perfect preparation prevents piss-poor performance

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (e7oj4)

560 461 ''As a wee lass, I liked Sean Connery in "Darby O'Gill and the Little People".''

Oh gosh. I remember that. The black cat named Thomasina? Am I remembering the right Disney movie?
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:22 PM (jm1YL)


Don't remember a cat; leprechauns (who were only seen by an old drunk who kept trying to steal the leprechaun king's gold), a Death Coach, and a Banshee.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (uDcBt)

561 ''Daniel Stern''

He plated one of the kids in "Breaking Away"

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (jm1YL)

562 Quint, yup. To this day, I have a lot of respect for
Warren Beatty, because he stood to applaud when Elia Kazan got his
honorary Oscar.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:49 PM (miE9U)

Same Qdp. He is likely a liberal. Hell, he starred in Reds. But he showed class, and that matters.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (n13/j)

563 Such a sad tale.
But I did my best not to burst out laughing too often.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 09, 2019 09:48 PM (Rxduq)

Exactly! That's just how it was!

Posted by: April at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (OX9vb)

564 logprof: precisely!

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (miE9U)

565 Blutarski: I meant Ed Harris.
Ed O'Neill is someone I like a lot. :-)

I like O'Neill.

Ed Harris attended (but did not graduate from) the University of Oklahoma. Don't think he graduated from anywhere.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (+Tibp)

566 Played not plated.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:52 PM (jm1YL)

567 Ed O'Neill seems very grounded.
Also, I can't think of a single time when he ever said anything about politics. My hunch is he's rather libertarian.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:52 PM (miE9U)

568 Yay!

Celebrating my birthday tomorrow with a fucking toothache.

23rd anniversary of my 29th birthday.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 09, 2019 09:53 PM (FXbwN)

569 561 ''Daniel Stern''

He plated one of the kids in "Breaking Away"
Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (jm1YL)

I don't recall any cannibalism in that movie.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 09:53 PM (NWiLs)

570 So Danger Man is on a Pirate radio station tonight?

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 09:54 PM (+Tibp)

571 Pug, ooo, we're in the same league 29-plus wise ;-)

1967 was a pretty good year for both muscle cars and movies.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:54 PM (miE9U)

572
Wikipedia says the series started after the
Sopranos ended, but I seem to recall it was after Deadwood also, unless
I'm conflating Deadwood and John From Cincinnati with Milch.
A
mysterious person arrives in the surfer town of Imperial Beach. Tough to
explain after that (lol). Bruce Greenwod, Rebecca De Mornay, Ed
O'Neill, and Luke Perry are in it, along with some Deadwood refugees.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Cub Fan at February 09, 2019 09:44 PM (8iiMU)

You had me at Rebecca De Mornay. I will try to check it out.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:54 PM (n13/j)

573
556 ITC: I meant Ed Harris. I LIKE Ed O'Neill.
Sorry for the confusion, but I seem to have started a discussion of O'Neill as well as Harris, which is okay. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:50 PM (miE9U)







That's okay. I'm just glad that I got the opportunity to call Ed Harris names. That guy is a real piece of shit. Great actor, miserable human being.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 09, 2019 09:54 PM (eXA4G)

574 Time to get back in the game, Link Stark...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QyKoqcxfvqo

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 09:55 PM (PUmDY)

575
Trisha Noble is on this episode of Danger Man. She's got yuge tracks of land

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2019 09:55 PM (SiINZ)

576 ITC, yup. IMHO Ed Harris and Sean Penn are pretty much cut from the same filthy cloth.

BTW, is it just me or does Sean Penn work a lot less these days? Either he just doesn't care-slash-need the money or people are tired of dealing with his sh!t.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:55 PM (miE9U)

577 One of the best results of the MeToo phenomena was the disappearance of that fat fuck Harry of AintItCool.

His reviews were exercises in narcissistic masturbation. Literally, it turns out.

Posted by: weft-cut-loop at February 09, 2019 09:56 PM (whUgy)

578 I liked Murray's The Razor's Edge.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 09, 2019 09:56 PM (yQpMk)

579 Nood but no way to comment. Seriously.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 09:56 PM (Y4EXg)

580 Trisha Noble is on this episode of Danger Man. She's got yuge tracks of land
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Danger Man can do anything.

And Patrick McGoohan was in the movie about Thomasina someone mentioned up thread.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 09:56 PM (+Tibp)

581 ONT is up, but no comments allowed. Curious.

Posted by: mindful webworker's slight of hand at February 09, 2019 09:57 PM (GJEvA)

582 As I recall, The Razor's Edge got horrible reviews when it first came out.

OTOH, I remember River's Edge from 1986 getting sooo much love from critics, I refused to see it. I just couldn't believe any film could be *that* good.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:57 PM (miE9U)

583 ONT

Posted by: Panhandler at February 09, 2019 09:57 PM (AuDw8)

584 Danger Man sounds like a first draft of the Bond movies. Is it any good

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 09:57 PM (1UZdv)

585 First !! On ONT!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 09:57 PM (Y4EXg)

586 Yeah, ONT has no comment space. Can we fix dis, please?

Posted by: Zaklog the Great at February 09, 2019 09:58 PM (2ibu9)

587 Well, nobody want to hire an expensive actor who may be hauled off to testify in El Chapo's trial, or may have to run off to see his BFF in Caracas.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2019 09:58 PM (mUa7G)

588 Well now that's weird.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 09:58 PM (+Tibp)

589 It's the new ONT as designed by arrogant House Dems... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:58 PM (miE9U)

590 That is one maladjusted ONT, that is.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 09, 2019 09:58 PM (yQpMk)

591 Kinda quiet up there.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 09:59 PM (Y4EXg)

592 Danger Man sounds like a first draft of the Bond movies. Is it any good
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 09:57 PM (1UZdv)


Its OK, really good for TV.

It did cause Patrick McGoohan to file The Prisoner, so there is that.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2019 09:59 PM (mUa7G)

593 NOOD!

Krakatoa ONT!

No comments section -- ??

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 09, 2019 09:59 PM (CLcKT)

594 Can't get to comments from the front page.

Here's teh URL

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=379597

Posted by: mindful webworker's slight of hand at February 09, 2019 09:59 PM (GJEvA)

595 ONT minus a comments section. A rather extreme way to prevent trolling.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 09:59 PM (WNAuL)

596 WTF? No comments on the ONT?

Posted by: free tibet at February 09, 2019 10:00 PM (hnQOz)

597 Uh, that ONT needs Mr HTML Repairman

Posted by: mindful webworker's slight of hand at February 09, 2019 10:00 PM (GJEvA)

598 WTF? No comments on the ONT?
Posted by: free tibet

This way we can't bitch.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 10:00 PM (+Tibp)

599 You had me at Rebecca De Mornay. I will try to check it out.


Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:54 PM (n13/j)

She was hawt in that, if I recall.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Cub Fan at February 09, 2019 10:01 PM (8iiMU)

600 "So put your little hand in mind, together there's no mountain we can't climb...."

Posted by: Sonny and Cher at February 09, 2019 10:01 PM (V8zw+)

601 Oh, we can Blutarski, it's just that no one will hear us.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:01 PM (Y4EXg)

602 Zee comment section for the ONT. It not be zhere.

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 10:01 PM (jm1YL)

603 Movie sign! all night!

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 10:01 PM (+Tibp)

604 OTOH, I remember River's Edge from 1986 getting sooo much love from critics, I refused to see it. I just couldn't believe any film could be *that* good.


Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:57 PM


I like River's Edge. Another weird, dark movie from the same period is "At Close Range".

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 10:01 PM (LkFnL)

605 551 He's also in Mamet's film, Spartan. But that one is after Married with Children, and even though his small part is acted well, you can't shake the idea that Al Bundy being a cold-blooded political/security operative is silly.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 09, 2019 09:47 PM (eXA4G)

------------


He was also in Mamet's The Spanish Prisoner as an FBI agent and was very good in that.

It also had Steve Martin in a non-comedic role. I'm not generally a fan of his, but he was excellent.

Lastly, the NoVaMoMee was amazing. Kudos to Bluebell, Weasel, and everyone else who made it happen! So happy to meet so many wonderful Horde members!

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 09, 2019 10:01 PM (XXNQ+)

606 Krakatoa ONT!

No comments section -- ??




You'll get nothing and you will like it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 09, 2019 10:01 PM (yQpMk)

607 I miss MisHum

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2019 10:02 PM (ZfRYq)

608 Does ace (PBUH) know about NO COMMENTS?!?!?

Posted by: free tibet at February 09, 2019 10:02 PM (d4+cE)

609 607 I miss MisHum
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2019 10:02 PM (ZfRYq)


Yeah, his ONTs always had comments, didn't they?

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (ed8K1)

610 No comments for you!
One year!

Posted by: Comment Nazi at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (8iiMU)

611 Perhaps it is a trick to make us read the post.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (ZfRYq)

612 The ONT, feeling ummmm, quiet?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (LOq4H)

613 Comments have returned to the ONT

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (ed8K1)

614 Maybe Ace is going to start charging extra for commenting privileges.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (XXNQ+)

615 564 logprof: precisely!
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 09:51 PM (miE9U)

--Please tell me you've seen Harry Brown.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (e7oj4)

616 [i[Maybe Ace is going to start charging extra for commenting privileges.


We'll have to wear blazers..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 09, 2019 10:06 PM (yQpMk)

617 No comments on the ONT?

Guarantees you WILL read the content.

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 10:06 PM (786Ro)

618 "Copying Beethoven" an enjoyable and sweet movie. The leading man brings Beethoven to life. Thoroughly disgusted to discover it was Ed Harris.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2019 10:06 PM (ePWRo)

619
Well, nobody want to hire an expensive actor who may be hauled off to testify in El Chapo's trial, or may have to run off to see his BFF in Caracas.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2019 09:58 PM (mUa7G)







Well, that's probably the capper, but even before his drug-lord lovefest, he wasn't well liked in H-wood. He's a singularly humorless, violent asshole.

In a now infamous Inside the Actor's Studio clip, Penn asserted that movies have no business being "entertaining". As he put it, if you want entertainment, go get a hooker and and eight-ball.

Which kind of brings up something that just came to mind. I used to watch a LOT of the Inside the Actor's Studio interviews. And I just realized that ITAS was probably the most important reason that I hate actors. So many of them bared their souls on that show, and showed themselves to be worthless pieces of shit.

Thank you James Lipton. Seriously.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 09, 2019 10:07 PM (eXA4G)

620 Oooo, Homicide: Life On The Street is also on Prime Video.

Posted by: logprof at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM (e7oj4)

621 logprof: who? ;-)
ITC, yup.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM (miE9U)

622 Yafat Kodo

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (ePWRo)

623 No comments for you!
One year!



Posted by: Comment Nazi at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (8iiMU)

nice.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (n13/j)

624 Well, that's probably the capper, but even before his drug-lord lovefest, he wasn't well liked in H-wood. He's a singularly humorless, violent asshole.

In a now infamous Inside the Actor's Studio clip, Penn asserted that movies have no business being "entertaining". As he put it, if you want entertainment, go get a hooker and and eight-ball.

Which kind of brings up something that just came to mind. I used to watch a LOT of the Inside the Actor's Studio interviews. And I just realized that ITAS was probably the most important reason that I hate actors. So many of them bared their souls on that show, and showed themselves to be worthless pieces of shit.

Thank you James Lipton. Seriously.



Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 09, 2019 10:07 PM


Weird thing is that some who you would expect to be interesting aren't... and some who you'd think would be up themselves aren't. Jeff Daniels and Bryan Cranston were pretentious bores. Mickey Rourke and Brad Pitt were great.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 10:13 PM (LkFnL)

625 Quick: What was the funniest comedy movie of 2018?

Posted by: Dr Deano at February 09, 2019 10:13 PM (zkimx)

626 Don't get the "Groundhog" thing. Don't get the redemption, mostly because of Murray's habitual postmodern snark, which does not go away, not in this movie or in any venue. Doubtful the movie makers had anything profound in mind, or if they did, would love to hear from them what it was. Although Jonah seems to have swallowed the whale.

Posted by: Caliban at February 09, 2019 10:16 PM (QE8X6)

627 Just finished watching Cabaret with my wife and kid. None of us were impressed. That movie hasn't aged at all well.

Big discovery of the evening: Liza Minelli can't actually act.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 09, 2019 10:16 PM (+yR45)

628 Don't remember a cat; leprechauns (who were only seen by an old drunk who kept trying to steal the leprechaun king's gold), a Death Coach, and a Banshee.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth

Yeah - came out when I was a small boy and my parents made me go - they wouldn't let me see Lawrence of Arabia because it was violent but they didn't mind me seeing that crap - ugh

Posted by: Boswell at February 09, 2019 10:17 PM (32YRo)

629 Which movie won more Oscars in 1972. The Godfather or Cabaret?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 10:20 PM (1UZdv)

630 2018 comedy? Death of Stalin

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 09, 2019 10:22 PM (1UZdv)

631 Williams only had two movie characters. Jonathan
Winters on meth, and serious, non-smiling Williams.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 09, 2019 09:12 PM

I think he was good in Dead Poet's Society and Insomnia.

Posted by: Quint at February 09, 2019 09:14 PM

"Dead Poet's Society" is one of my favorite movies. He was also good in "Patch Adams". But I can't rewatch that movie, because the ending makes me cry. Liked him in "Good Will Hunting" as well.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 09, 2019 10:28 PM (7A4qQ)

632 568 Yay!

Celebrating my birthday tomorrow with a fucking toothache.

23rd anniversary of my 29th birthday.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 09, 2019 09:53 PM

Happy Birthday, Pug. I'll be celebrating my birthday tomorrow as well. For me, it will be the 14th anniversary of my 29th birthday. Sorry about your toothache though.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 09, 2019 10:59 PM (7A4qQ)

633 Roar

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 09, 2019 11:29 PM (+y/Ru)

634 After a disastrous plunge into serious drama -- The Razor's Edge ...


======


Disastrous? I thought he did a great job and enjoyed that movie. As someone else mentioned, it prompted me to read the book.

Posted by: ShainS -- Registered Hat Offender at February 09, 2019 11:44 PM (WqPYg)

635 I guess some people got the idea that First Man is a bad movie, for political reasons, or that it depicts Armstrong as something less than a Superman, or that there is no flag-planting scene, or whatever.

I think it's a fine movie. It shows Armstrong not just as an astronaut, but as a pilot, an engineer, and most of all as a family man. It gives us more reasons to admire the guy, not less.

It shows us a lot of Gemini and the development of undocking/docking tech and manually-piloted close maneuvering of spacecraft. This was when astronauts ceased to be just "spam-in-a-can" and used their piloting skill.

The sound design is wonderful. The spacecraft rattle, bang, shriek and moan like hellish beasts in flight. Camera work includes lots of face closeups.

I know a lot of people don't like Gosling. If he's the only reason you won't see the movie, please reconsider. He does fine. The goal was to portray Armstrong as a brilliant, reliable, skilled, rather daring, but emotionally restrained and quiet man, and yes, Gosling can do that.

Posted by: gp at February 10, 2019 03:22 AM (mk9aG)

636 One of the best reviews/discussions. I connected with the movie years back and with reinforcement over the years. A perfect capture of the film and dynamics behind it.

Posted by: commander cobra at February 10, 2019 08:20 AM (9xQnC)

637
Steven Tobolowsky in this movie reminded me so much of Steve P., a co-worker who joined our company about a year after me. I still get a big laugh out of his character and his mannerisms.

"Am I right? Am I right? Am I right?"

"Am I right?"

Posted by: say no more! at February 10, 2019 01:00 PM (pNxlR)

638 I'm really sorry I missed most of this discussion! Great stuff, guys. Will try to address some of it next time.

Bill Murray's turn in "Razor's Edge" was disastrous because it flopped as a movie popularly and critically, and he couldn't get hired much after that, leading to his begrudging, belated acceptance of "Ghostbusters II".

As mentioned, I think the problem may have less been his performance than his association with wisecracking smarm.

Posted by: moviegique at February 10, 2019 04:52 PM (CcUfv)

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