Saturday ONT, February 9 [KT]

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Hello, Horde. Surprised to see me? Misanthropic Humanitarian filled in for me last week, and he has tonight off. You will probably miss him.

Between the fall fires and the winter rains, friends of mine took a trip that included the 17-Mile Drive and Monterey on the California coast. I thought it might be fun to look at some of their photos before Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tries to turn the 17-Mile Drive into the 17-Mile Walk.

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Note The Lone Cypress and the Monterey Pines. These pines are rare in their native range, but more common in cultivation, and grow into taller trees suitable for lumber under cultivation. Too gnarly and full of pitch in their native range.

In their native range, they host Monarch Butterflies in winter, as in Pacific Grove. There is a short video of Monarchs on non-native Eucalyptus trees near Pismo Beach in today's Gardening Thread.

Ever hung out underneath a pier?

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Wonder if there is high-speed rail in the New Green Deal from the piers to the aquarium?

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Rail envisioned to the ranch where Jurassic Park was filmed?

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Music

Something a little different tonight. Well, maybe a lot different:

After his producer nixed a song about how hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic led to the rise of fascism, "a country singer reminisces, tunefully, about his late father, who was a composer of atonal music."

Not only is our featured artist, Merle Hazard, economically literate, the banjo picker used to be an investment banker.

Tonight's featured artist is new to me. From his Facebook page, I learned that Elvis has discussed atonality.

Speaking of Elvis, Merle Hazard wrote and performed In the Hamptons after meeting Arthur Laffer. I will leave others to analyze the economics in the song.

He also co-wrote Dave's Song
about a trucker's introduction to self-driving trucks and robots.

Then he discovered that Allan Sherman had pioneered this genre.

Men and Psychology

Do you trust a psychologist or psychiatrist who accepts the APA'a new guidance on treating men and boys?

Just a note here that Quillete is fighting against group-think. Here, 12 scholars respond to the new guidelines. Someone in the anglosphere has to.

Hope you have a peaceful night.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:58 PM




Comments

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1 Finally!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:00 PM (Y4EXg)

2 Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 09, 2019 10:01 PM (CLcKT)

3 Danger man!

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (+Tibp)

4 Well, then

Posted by: mindful webworker's sigh of relief at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (GJEvA)

5 There we go.

Posted by: April at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (OX9vb)

6 Praise Allah!

Posted by: free tibet at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (d4+cE)

7 Better.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (yQpMk)

8 Was this just a way to make us read the content first?

Posted by: Splunge at February 09, 2019 10:03 PM (ed8K1)

9 Going to bed, see you readers on the morning book thread.

Posted by: April at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (OX9vb)

10 Ok, I feel better now.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (Y4EXg)

11 This inaugural AAF game kinda stinks.

Posted by: Blutarski at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (+Tibp)

12 Thanks for teh emergency link, Mindful!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (CLcKT)

13 Somebody cheated me out of a first, I demand satisfaction!

Posted by: Charles the Simple at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (Pzj+4)

14 You can also see the butterflies at Natural Bridges in Santa Cruz in the eucalyptus trees. I suppose it's neat, but I don't find it spectacular.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (Pj7+0)

15 Ever hung out underneath a pier?

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Oh yeah.

Heh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (UGqF8)

16 Nite April!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (Y4EXg)

17 Yes it was a trick to make us read the content.

Purty pitchers though

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (ZfRYq)

18 Bad as Weird Dave is, he never pulled that crap on us.

(just kidding, Weird Dave is one of my top 10 ONT hosts. KT is up there too.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (LWu6U)

19 This inaugural AAF game kinda stinks.

so just like the NFL. Spring training in a week!

Posted by: free tibet at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (d4+cE)

20 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (UGqF8)

21 Oh that's much better. I thought the hamsters had gone on strike.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (DjIXP)

22 Ahhh.

So, Althouse has declared for Liawatha...

But she's "conservative", right?

Heh

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (6qErC)

23 I don't understand everything here, and turn DOWN your speakers, but...

@spergwyatt

HAHAHAHHAHA

THEY MADE A 5 STORY TALL GOD EMPEROR TRUMP IN ITALY AND BLASTED CAROLUS REX BY SABATON OVER LOUDSPEAKERS

twitter.com/spergwyatt/status/1094406987998203904

Posted by: weft-cut-loop at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (whUgy)

24 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Interrogative, over.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 09, 2019 10:06 PM (ATMED)

25 Ever hung out underneath a pier? "

Ever seen a grown man naked?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 09, 2019 10:06 PM (6qErC)

26 Favorite not Elvis Elvis song:

https://youtu.be/S8YQqK5e5es

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:06 PM (Y4EXg)

27 Can I hang out with you ONT people for a bit ? Want to see if any MoMe stragglers show up...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:06 PM (bUjCl)

28 It looks like a lot of the horde here have enjoyed some of the videos I've posted in the past. If so, maybe you could take a few minutes to watch this one. Thanks, guys. And thanks, Ace & cobs. It's a great hiding spot on the interwebz.

https://youtu.be/T-e_vreKvkY

Posted by: Zaklog the Great at February 09, 2019 10:07 PM (2ibu9)

29 Hmmm...it's got that new car smell, but also the oily smell of the repair shop....

Remind me to get a green pine tree for the rear view mirror.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 09, 2019 10:07 PM (8iiMU)

30 Quillet's podcast gives me brain cramp.

It sounds like Canadian NPR, and then discusses libertarian ideals. It is like finding Mary Cloggenstein huddled in a corner with three graduate students telling them about Austrian school business cycles

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2019 10:08 PM (mUa7G)

31 Nice ONT KT thank you

Posted by: Fat Jack at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM (aA3+G)

32 The APA has merely said bluntly what has been the bias in the mental health therapy industry for quite some time: man bad, woman good.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM (NWiLs)

33 KT / Open Blogger, can you do something about the last comment on the Moving beyond Judeo-Christianity thread?

A hate troll left a really ugly comment at the end of the thread. It's still there.

Posted by: Hands at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM (786Ro)

34 Ever hung out underneath a pier?



Yes....those mussels look familiar...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM (bUjCl)

35 11 This inaugural AAF game kinda stinks.
Posted by: Blutarski



A co-workers son plays for San Diego. (Safety/LB)

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM (WNAuL)

36 hallo ont

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM (BJlbN)

37 Want to see if any MoMe stragglers show up...
I told you already runner, I didn't spill the drink on you and for your info, I staggered out,

Posted by: Panhandler at February 09, 2019 10:10 PM (AuDw8)

38 Hey everybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (miE9U)

39 ''So, Althouse has declared for Liawatha..''

Does anybody even read her blog anymore? So who cares?

Posted by: Tuna at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (jm1YL)

40 23 I don't understand everything here, and turn DOWN your speakers, but...

@spergwyatt

HAHAHAHHAHA

THEY MADE A 5 STORY TALL GOD EMPEROR TRUMP IN ITALY AND BLASTED CAROLUS REX BY SABATON OVER LOUDSPEAKERS

Oh HELLZ YEAH!!!

\m/ \m/

Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (NWiLs)

41 From the banjo part she was playing, is atonal music an oxymoron? I just don't get it.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (Pj7+0)

42 In my high school days I surfed at the Huntington Beach pier when I was insufficiently motivated to drive to a better spot. The underside of that pier became very familiar to me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (UGqF8)

43 That was an interesting adaptation of the Pixyware for tonight's ONT.

I for one, was entertained!

Speaking of entertainment.... any survivors from the VaMoMe?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (QzJWU)

44 I told you already runner, I didn't spill the drink on you and for your info, I staggered out,
Posted by: Panhandler at February 09, 2019 10:10 PM (AuDw



Who did, then? ? You people all look alike...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (bUjCl)

45 Doors are open!

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 10:12 PM (7ZQe3)

46 Hands at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM

Okay!

Had a few technical difficulties getting this thread up. Think I can handle that, though.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 09, 2019 10:12 PM (BVQ+1)

47 Brb. Getting bail calls from NoVa.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 10:12 PM (IcJtd)

48 THEY MADE A 5 STORY TALL GOD EMPEROR TRUMP IN ITALY AND BLASTED CAROLUS REX BY SABATON OVER LOUDSPEAKERS



twitter.com/spergwyatt/status/1094406987998203904

Posted by: weft-cut-loop at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (whUgy)

frigging awesome. Its a great song for that. The youtube thing they did awhile back was great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBlYlSs2fIU

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 09, 2019 10:12 PM (9Om/r)

49 Do you trust a psychologist or psychiatrist who accepts the APA'a new guidance on treating men and boys?
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No.

And good evening.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 09, 2019 10:13 PM (IDhUW)

50 Kateurday ONT Compliance Videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTG9mE8Z2-4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIHWGjDZ_xA

Posted by: kbdabear at February 09, 2019 10:13 PM (0Ntuf)

51 Also, thanks for filling in, KT.

Greatly appreciated.

Posted by: weft-cut-loop at February 09, 2019 10:14 PM (whUgy)

52 Had a few technical difficulties getting this thread up. Think I can handle that, though.



You did good, KT !

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:14 PM (bUjCl)

53 80s Flashback ONT Compliance GIF

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/1094308658501115910

Posted by: kbdabear at February 09, 2019 10:14 PM (0Ntuf)

54 52 Had a few technical difficulties getting this thread up. Think I can handle that, though.


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You made it look easy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:14 PM (UGqF8)

55 THEY MADE A 5 STORY TALL GOD EMPEROR TRUMP IN ITALY AND BLASTED CAROLUS REX BY SABATON OVER LOUDSPEAKERS
twitter.com/spergwyatt/status/1094406987998203904
Posted by: weft-cut-loop at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (whUgy)



And under the Green New Deal, this would be replaced by a 5' tall pile of asparagus.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 09, 2019 10:16 PM (LWu6U)

56 Nicely done, KT. Thank you for hosting tonight.

And if you keep it up, I may start visiting Quillete more often rather than only when you link it.

Posted by: Emmie at February 09, 2019 10:17 PM (4HMW8)

57 36 hallo ont
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 09, 2019 10:09 PM (BJlbN)

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Hallo to you.

Posted by: The ONT at February 09, 2019 10:17 PM (UGqF8)

58 Slow night, eh?

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 10:18 PM (7ZQe3)

59 Slow night, eh?
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 10:18 PM (7ZQe3)


Kind of early, no ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:18 PM (bUjCl)

60 Take off, eh.

Posted by: D. McKenzie at February 09, 2019 10:19 PM (UGqF8)

61 Kindltot at February 09, 2019 10:08 PM

I usually stick to Quillette's written stuff.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 09, 2019 10:19 PM (BVQ+1)

62 Everybody must be watching Saturday Night NBA

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 10:20 PM (7ZQe3)

63 KT is the designated survivor tonight...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:20 PM (bUjCl)

64 ONT!!! 17 mile drive - that would be one very long extension cord

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 09, 2019 10:21 PM (2PRiy)

65 The PGA Tour is playing at Pebble Beach this weekend.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 10:22 PM (WNAuL)

66 No bicycle post

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2019 10:22 PM (25Dt7)

67 Hello, how was your day, Dear?

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:23 PM (vBjuR)

68 t-bird at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM

They play real notes in official atonal music. I have never been asked to play any, but I learned a partly atonal piece once in a choir class. On the poem, "Ozymandias", we really went atonal on "despair". We weren't too picky about the actual notes. Makes me shudder for atonal music with autotuned.

I went to a few symphony concerts at a child or teen where the audience suffered through an atonal piece to get to the Mozart or Brahms. Sometimes you run across an interesting atonal piece.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 09, 2019 10:23 PM (BVQ+1)

69 Like the Merle Hazard, thanks.

17 Mile Drive costs $10.25. Not that it's expensive, but to me it's the principle. Not gonna pay it, plenty of pretty places. I imagine it does keep out the riff raff though.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 09, 2019 10:23 PM (RfzVr)

70 Hello, how was your day, Dear?
Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:23 PM (vBjuR)


Hello, Baby. Satisfactory. And yours ?

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:24 PM (bUjCl)

71 Atonality and dissonance are not the same. I think even Elvis went for some dissonant chords from time to time.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 09, 2019 10:24 PM (BVQ+1)

72 Janice did.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 09, 2019 10:25 PM (PUmDY)

73 Don't get me started on dissonance.

Posted by: Pythagoras at February 09, 2019 10:25 PM (UGqF8)

74 Howdy y'all!

How's the evening treating everyone?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2019 10:27 PM (PkVlr)

75 KT, thanks again (twice in one day). Love the tone and content of your posts.


17-mile Drive - think I was 14 or so when I was last there. But Monterrey is on the near-term list. Just a short shot up from central coast, or a stopover coming south from SF. Haven't done wineries there yet.



Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2019 10:27 PM (QDnY+)

76 What a truly fabulous day.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 09, 2019 10:27 PM (TdMsT)

77 Any bets on if PDT will retweet the video of the 5 story tall Italian Trump float? It's not like any of the media will report it.

Posted by: jmel at February 09, 2019 10:27 PM (OeWgo)

78 Don't get me started on dissonance.

Posted by: Pythagoras
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Rocky went the dissonance.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:27 PM (Y4EXg)

79
74 Howdy y'all!

How's the evening treating everyone?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2019 10:27 PM (PkVlr)


Hi Nurse!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 09, 2019 10:27 PM (TdMsT)

80 Thoughts on Lindsey Graham calling for a vote on the Green New Deal?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 09, 2019 10:28 PM (BVQ+1)

81 69 Like the Merle Hazard, thanks.

17 Mile Drive costs $10.25. Not that it's expensive, but to me it's the principle. Not gonna pay it, plenty of pretty places. I imagine it does keep out the riff raff though.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 09, 2019 10:23 PM (RfzVr)

I just told them I had reservations at Spanish Bay. Waved right through.

Posted by: free tibet at February 09, 2019 10:28 PM (61e6C)

82 What a truly fabulous day.

Posted by: Ladyl
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Great! Spill it Sister, whatcha do?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:28 PM (Y4EXg)

83 Hi Ladyl!


Hugs and smooches. It's cold, and windy and we have 7 inches of snow in the ground. In Seattle!! N

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2019 10:29 PM (PkVlr)

84 Okay, it's been a while. Gonna share another Quora question:

"How would you handle an employee who refuses to attend company parties?"

Oh good grief. If my boss tried to force me to attend one unpaid, I'd want to hire an attorney to sue them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:29 PM (miE9U)

85 And what's up your sleeve?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2019 10:29 PM (PkVlr)

86 The golf courses are public and have dining rooms/bars open to the public. Just tell the gate you have dinner reservations

Posted by: free tibet at February 09, 2019 10:30 PM (61e6C)

87 Thoughts on Lindsey Graham calling for a vote on the Green New Deal?
Posted by: KTbarthedoor

Every week thru the election. Hearings on every line item.

Posted by: Jean at February 09, 2019 10:31 PM (25Dt7)

88 "How would you handle an employee who refuses to attend company parties?"



seriously ? is that question from 2006 ? who has the budget for that crap anymore ?





Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:32 PM (bUjCl)

89 Wasn't Merle haggard a Hillary guy? a

Posted by: BacktoGA at February 09, 2019 10:32 PM (gJJd+)

90 86 The golf courses are public and have dining rooms/bars open to the public. Just tell the gate you have dinner reservations
Posted by: free tibet



World famous Pebble Beach GC is public. So, if you have $500 laying around, you can play a round of golf there. It is a fantastic golf course and the scenery is unmatched. The PGA Tour is there this weekend and the US Open will be played there in June.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 09, 2019 10:32 PM (WNAuL)

91 runner, I know right?

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:32 PM (miE9U)

92 82 What a truly fabulous day.

Posted by: Ladyl
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Great! Spill it Sister, whatcha do?
Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:28 PM (Y4EXg)


Tennis in the am (of course) then spent the day with my kids and grandlovies. Birthday party for the oldest. Another great day tomorrow with someone special. And you?

Posted by: Ladyl at February 09, 2019 10:32 PM (TdMsT)

93 Der Trumpenfuhrer had the caffeinated Coke this afternoon, his twatters were ablaze, and as usual amusing. I know some of the tweets directed at foreign targets have been gamed out in consultation with relevant agencies, and I wonder about the stuff on Kim. Trump seems to be trying to pressure Kim to abandon North Korea's idiotic and dead-end ways in order to reap economic benefits. Just wonder if those sorts of buttons and levers are connected to anything in Kim's mind, or his advisors' minds.


In any case, Trump's approach is entertaining and interesting, especially compared to the (usually) oppressively dull and insipid crap generated by serious career types, on such questions.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2019 10:32 PM (QDnY+)

94 Thoughts on Lindsey Graham calling for a vote on the Green New Deal?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 09, 2019 10:28 PM


Wait! What? Teh Green Dream may be up for a vote already? That was quick...


I must have missed something...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 09, 2019 10:33 PM (CLcKT)

95 Atonal music! I'm a musician and oh Lord, that brings back horrible memories. I was forced to study the 12-tone system by Arnold Schoenberg when I was in college. Even had to sing an original composition for someone's senior recital. Had to find one single pitch suspended over dissonant chords, and then rest for five measures and find a different one. Any musicians out there who can send me an "Amen"?

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 10:33 PM (Q+Oiy)

96
"How would you handle an employee who refuses to attend company parties?"

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Late night abduction, forced screening of Michael Moore movies, followed by live burial somewhere out in the middle of the desert.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:33 PM (UGqF8)

97 Handle an employee who won't come to a company party I am paying for? Hearty handshake.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 10:33 PM (IcJtd)

98 Hello, Baby. Satisfactory. And yours ?
Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:24 PM (bUjCl)

Very nice. Thank you for asking!

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:34 PM (vBjuR)

99 97 Handle an employee who won't come to a company party I am paying for? Hearty handshake.
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 10:33 PM (IcJtd)

And a pink slip.

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:34 PM (vBjuR)

100 Nurse! How snowed in are you?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 09, 2019 10:34 PM (LOq4H)

101 Everybody must be watching Saturday Night NBA

Posted by: Pete Seria
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It's opening night of the Alliance of American Football! The Arizona Hotshots are playing!!

(Though I'm a bit disappointed at the lack of AAF cheerleaders here.)

Posted by: FireHorse at February 09, 2019 10:35 PM (Lj7FZ)

102 MisHum MIA?

Cherche la MoMee, methinks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 10:35 PM (HTHlp)

103 Any musicians out there who can send me an "Amen"?



Not a musician (my musical study ended at solfeggio), but, I feel your pain. So..."Amen".

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:36 PM (bUjCl)

104 Naw ALH. I pay the venue by the head. Fewer heads, less $$.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 10:36 PM (IcJtd)

105 Very nice. Thank you for asking!
Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:34 PM (vBjuR)

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:36 PM (bUjCl)

106 I consider this atonal ... or at least containing atonal sections ...

Alan Parsons Project
Lucifer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9e9tp3_PE8

Posted by: Adriane the Bodhran Criic ... at February 09, 2019 10:36 PM (LPnfS)

107 so any gossip form the MoMe? Anyone posted bail yet?

Posted by: IC at February 09, 2019 10:36 PM (LJUs+)

108 Hiya Rat!

Not snowed in at all. We have a bunch on the local roads. But I have my snow goat lesbaru and get around just fine!

How are you faring on the other side?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2019 10:36 PM (PkVlr)

109 Ahhh.

So, Althouse has declared for Liawatha...

But she's "conservative", right?

Heh
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (6qErC)


I don't think she's ever claimed to be conservative. She has some interesting takes, and some BS, but she's definitely not conservative.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 09, 2019 10:37 PM (SgjGX)

110 Cherche la MoMee, methinks.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 10:35 PM (HTHlp)



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Cara Mia. I love it when you speak French!

Posted by: Gomez Addams at February 09, 2019 10:37 PM (UGqF8)

111 Your Bible lesson of the night, brought to you by the Lt Governor of VA.

After Joseph was falsely accused of assult by Potiphar's wife, he said "Fuck that bitch!".

https://twitter.com/FairfaxJustin/status/1093158478439436288

Posted by: Thrawn at February 09, 2019 10:37 PM (Ta69/)

112
How many arrests?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (LsBY9)

113 Listening to the 50th anniversary remaster of the White Album.

Gotta admit, George Harrison was right on about the press in Piggies.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (miE9U)

114 Excellent job, KT!
Never saw the appeal of Monterrey per se, but Pacific Grove was mine and Thor's romantic getaway place when we lived in CA. Love Big Sur and Carmel By the Sea, too.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (McqgV)

115 Mis Hum, myself, and our brides got snowpocalypsed out of going to the MoMee. We are very bummed.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (IcJtd)

116 Wait! What? Teh Green Dream may be up for a vote already? That was quick...


I must have missed something...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 09, 2019 10:33 PM (CLcKT)


Graham is trolling the Dems by suggesting that the GND should be put up for a vote. Force them to take a side.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (SgjGX)

117 Tennis in the am (of course) then spent the day with
my kids and grandlovies. Birthday party for the oldest. Another great
day tomorrow with someone special. And you?

Posted by:Ladyl
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Yep, that's a great one and tomorrow sounds good too! I cleaned out the basement of stuff not accessed in 10 years and got the guest rooms ready for my hs pal M. Her daughter is starting treatment at The James for brain cancer on Tuesday and we will have M and her fiance here for as long as they need to stay.

The service for her other daughter who died last week was today in Cleveland. She's had quite a week.

Doesn't sound like it but I had a great one too!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (Y4EXg)

118 Graham/GND


Graham: Meh. I suppose he's in "oh, I'm elected from SC, and I'm up this cycle" mode (though his anger about judicial nominations becoming mob lynching events is genuine, and of long-standing).


Votes/hearings: sure, why not. I suppose there's some tiny, barely measurable practical value to highlighting what illiterate idiocy is on display. Though the fact that the country might benefit from this process, or need it, sort of says it all about the general degradation.


As for votes, gee, how about some Senate votes on real, central, urgent matters? Lots of them. With lots of amendments styled to make Dems (and some GOP) walk the plank on specific questions? Ya know, the way the Senate *used* to be, all the time. Called "politics". And "differentiation". Mitch has successfully banished politics and choices from the Senate, with Trump's indulgence. If that doesn't change, the 10% chance of important things getting done drops to Zero.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (QDnY+)

119 113 Listening to the 50th anniversary remaster of the White Album.

Gotta admit, George Harrison was right on about the press in Piggies.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (miE9U)


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I know, right?

Posted by: Charles Manson at February 09, 2019 10:39 PM (UGqF8)

120 French pron:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2019 10:39 PM (ePWRo)

121 lol..I was just thinking the same thing IC.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 09, 2019 10:39 PM (dUJdY)

122 Charlie, you don't count...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:39 PM (miE9U)

123 Hail the God Emperor, conqueror of all he surveys.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 09, 2019 10:40 PM (rnAwa)

124 How are you faring on the other side?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Well, thank goodness for evil, non-green, 4 wheel drive, or couldn't get out of our side street.
Based on the roads between here and Silverdale, tomorrow is gonna be nasty. I am going to go with "skating rink."

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 09, 2019 10:40 PM (LOq4H)

125
The service for her other daughter who died last week was today in Cleveland. She's had quite a week.

Doesn't sound like it but I had a great one too!
Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (Y4EXg)


I don't even know what to say. I can't imagine losing a child and having another with cancer. I'm not sure I would survive that.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM (TdMsT)

126 Charlie, you don't count...


Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:39 PM


He doesn't surf, either.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM (LkFnL)

127 Jewells, I was thinking off would be fun to try and have an ettes meet up one day. Spa, shopping, drinks and dinner.

Posted by: IC at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM (LJUs+)

128 Adriane the Bodhran Criic

Great handle. Do you play bodhran? I do. Nice Parson's Project piece. I love most of his stuff.

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM (Q+Oiy)

129 dimuse at February 09, 2019 10:33 PM

Just thankful it wasn't me.

Posted by: KT at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM (BVQ+1)

130 Look who's in favor of the Green New Deal!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called "Carbon Footprint" to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas and the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM (+y/Ru)

131
"How would you handle an employee who refuses to attend company parties?"


Yea, saving money on the bar and food tab!

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM (+lVUW)

132
"How would you handle an employee who refuses to attend company parties?"

Don't have company parties. My fellow employees are splendid people, but they're not my friends. Parties can only cause me trouble.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM (LsBY9)

133 Good evening, everybody. I took a nap that lasted longer than I intended, so I missed the last couple of threads. But I'm not complaining. Sleep is always good. I learned that from my cats.

I hate to say it, but there's a Nazi troll at the very end of the Thread Before the Gardening Thread.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM (sdi6R)

134 Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called "Carbon Footprint" to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas and the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Bri


------

Awesome. I can't spare this man. He fights.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:42 PM (UGqF8)

135 Anonasaurus, thanks, that's one of the trumpentweets I was thinking about earlier. Love it when he gets in that mode. Ridicule is richly deserved, and he delivers it.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 09, 2019 10:43 PM (QDnY+)

136
Hugs and smooches. It's cold, and windy and we have 7 inches of snow in the ground. In Seattle!! N
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2019 10:29 PM (PkVlr)

I didn't realize Seattle got so much snow. It doesn't seem as if the global warming we were promised is working out for you...

Posted by: Ladyl at February 09, 2019 10:43 PM (TdMsT)

137 Party during working (paid) hours? Party outside of working hours? "Party" held during lunch break? And is lunch break paid or unpaid time?

I can't see me going to any function I am not being paid for my time unless I actually want to be there. They expect me to work when they are paying me and I expect them to pay me when I am required to be at work.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 09, 2019 10:43 PM (RfzVr)

138 Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 10:36 PM (IcJtd)


I like going to company parties. I have so few opportunities to wear a cocktail dress.

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:44 PM (vBjuR)

139 That would be fun IC! Would love to!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 09, 2019 10:44 PM (dUJdY)

140 I hate to say it, but there's a Nazi troll at the very end of the Thread Before the Gardening Thread.

Posted by: rickl
----
Yeah, saw that. Ugly.

What I honestly don't get is: What is the payoff for a little pervert like that to drop a load? I understand a guy being a thief - you know, you steal something you haven't worked for and it becomes 'yours'.

But trolling? It is it's own payoff?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 09, 2019 10:44 PM (Y4EXg)

141 Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with
their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called "Carbon
Footprint" to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas and
the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Bri

He makes people think. He takes on the hard issues. He may not win, because of the swamp, but damn he has guts.

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 10:45 PM (Q+Oiy)

142 I like going to company parties. I have so few opportunities to wear a cocktail dress.
Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:44 PM (vBjuR)

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Me too, sister.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:45 PM (UGqF8)

143 I didn't realize Seattle got so much snow. It doesn't seem as if the global warming we were promised is working out for you...
Posted by: Ladyl

We don't get much snow, hence, "hilarity ensued."

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 09, 2019 10:45 PM (LOq4H)

144 83
It's cold, and windy and we have 7 inches of snow in the ground. In Seattle!! N
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 09, 2019 10:29 PM (PkVlr)


Wow, that's unusual. That's more than the total I've had here in PA this winter. Apart from the cold snap, this winter has been pretty mild.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 10:45 PM (sdi6R)

145 dimuse (#95):You were "forced to study the 12-tone system by Arnold Schoenberg"? Wow! Did the great man tie you up, beat you, or just browbeat you into learning his system?

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at February 09, 2019 10:45 PM (cXtSu)

146 >Me too, sister.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:45 PM (UGqF



NOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 10:46 PM (IcJtd)

147 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:45 PM (UGqF

And stilettos.

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:46 PM (vBjuR)

148
I hate to say it, but there's a Nazi troll at the very end of the Thread Before the Gardening Thread.

I would hate it more if there was a Nazi troll during the Gardening Thread.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:46 PM (LsBY9)

149 7inches of snow in Seattle is amazing. All the years I lived in Pullman I don't think I heard of Seattle getting more than an inch or two at most.

Posted by: IC at February 09, 2019 10:46 PM (LJUs+)

150 I hate to say it, but there's a Nazi troll at the very end of the Thread Before the Gardening Thread.


Somebody grab the RAID.

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:47 PM (vBjuR)

151 Charlie, you don't count...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:39 PM

He doesn't surf, either.
Posted by: otho


Inherited a Chocolate Factory, though !!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Bodhran Criic ... at February 09, 2019 10:47 PM (LPnfS)

152 111 Your Bible lesson of the night, brought to you by the Lt Governor of VA.

After Joseph was falsely accused of assult by Potiphar's wife, he said "Fuck that bitch!".

https://twitter.com/FairfaxJustin/status/1093158478439436288
Posted by: Thrawn


The photo on that would be better if the two white guys were in blackface.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 09, 2019 10:48 PM (+lVUW)

153 130 Look who's in favor of the Green New Deal!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I think it is very important for the Democrats to press forward with their Green New Deal. It would be great for the so-called "Carbon Footprint" to permanently eliminate all Planes, Cars, Cows, Oil, Gas and the Military - even if no other country would do the same. Brilliant!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM


Trump should tell all D politicians who are in favor of the Green New Disaster Deal to put up or shut up, before the 2020 election: Cut their properties off from any fossil fuel-produced electricity, drive/ride only in electric vehicles, and not ride in any aircraft powered by fossil fuels. And no rides on Amtrak or any other trains powered by fossil fuels!

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2019 10:49 PM (AMIL/)

154 (my musical study ended at solfeggio)
Uhhh - is that the Nairobi Trio?

Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 10:49 PM (98pFy)

155 Dr. Weevil
You were "forced to study the 12-tone system by Arnold Schoenberg"? Wow!
Did the great man tie you up, beat you, or just browbeat you into
learning his system?

LOL! Good point! Learning something that goes against your inner instincts is still worth learning. Broadens the horizons. It was covered in my 4 semesters of musical theory. But it was required, like it or not!

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 10:49 PM (Q+Oiy)

156
You PNW types are delusional. Snowfall is a thing of the past, according to our betters.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:49 PM (LsBY9)

157 I hate loitering nazis...

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:50 PM (bUjCl)

158 Adriane the Bodhran Criic

Great handle. Do you play bodhran? I do. Nice Parson's Project piece. I love most of his stuff.
Posted by: dimuse


Alas, no.

I used the handle for a Nathan Phillips drumming joke on last night's ONT ...

Posted by: Adriane the Bodhran Criic ... at February 09, 2019 10:50 PM (LPnfS)

159 Uhhh - is that the Nairobi Trio?
Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 10:49 PM (98pFy)


close enough !

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:51 PM (bUjCl)

160 not far from that monterey is the bixby creek bridge, a beautiful concrete bridge that shows the influence of the great swiss engineer robert maillart. and just south of the bixby bridge is the old brazil ranch, owned by allen funt, who raised horses there.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 10:51 PM (Pg+x7)

161 Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2019 10:49 PM (AMIL/)


That's not how it works.

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:51 PM (vBjuR)

162 I believe I've been pwned.

Posted by: Little Lupe at February 09, 2019 10:51 PM (Tyii7)

163 (... i'm a fan of both maillart and funt.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 10:51 PM (Pg+x7)

164 Garden Nazi Troll, hmmmm

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2019 10:52 PM (bUjCl)

165 Adriane the Bodhran Criic
Alas, no.



I used the handle for a Nathan Phillips drumming joke on last night's ONT ...


Hahahahahaha! Awesome!

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 10:52 PM (Q+Oiy)

166 I would hate it more if there was a Nazi troll during the Gardening Thread.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


A Nazi Gardening Gnome ???

Posted by: Adriane the Bodhran Criic ... at February 09, 2019 10:52 PM (LPnfS)

167 You PNW types are delusional. Snowfall is a thing of the past, according to our betters.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Heh, our Governor who declared a state of emergency over our snow storm, signed off on the NGD...

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 09, 2019 10:53 PM (LOq4H)

168 "White Album" should have never been a double. I think the drugs were taking their toll by then, I think probably recreational pharmaceuticals might help with creativity but this effect is short lived and quickly becomes a liability. Rubber Soul era had some interesting tunes, as did Revolver, but it started downhill for the lads after that. Keith Richards, of all people, called Sgt Pepper "Rubbish" and he's probably correct.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 10:53 PM (H4xk5)

169 That insipid Beto twit is doing a counter rally to Trump's rally at the border on Monday.

Posted by: IC at February 09, 2019 10:54 PM (LJUs+)

170 Cut their properties off from any fossil fuel-produced electricity, drive/ride only in electric vehicles, and not ride in any aircraft powered by fossil fuels. And no rides on Amtrak or any other trains powered by fossil fuels!


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Umm, electric vehicles are powered primarily by fossil fuels. Electricity isn't generated at the outlet, you know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:54 PM (UGqF8)

171
A Nazi Gardening Gnome ???

Posted by: Adriane the Bodhran Criic


One of those squat, bearded figures with a swastika armband.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:54 PM (LsBY9)

172 Atonality and dissonance are not the same. I think even Elvis went for some dissonant chords from time to time.

I like dissonance, or at least the appearance of it, from time to time. My personal favorite example is Bach's Prelude and Fugue in B minor, BWV 544. For example, Stewart Foster on the First Congregational Church Organ of Los Angeles organ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SqdaYENEPY

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 09, 2019 10:55 PM (7s3Gx)

173
Nancy Pelosi has to go back to SF by Conestoga wagon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:55 PM (LsBY9)

174 (... maillart's bridges are among the most beautiful in the world.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 10:56 PM (Pg+x7)

175 Umm, electric vehicles are powered primarily by fossil fuels. Electricity isn't generated at the outlet, you know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:54 PM (UGqF



Not in Occasional-Cortex's World!

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2019 10:56 PM (AMIL/)

176 Umm, electric vehicles are powered primarily by fossil fuels. Electricity isn't generated at the outlet, you know.

**

I don't know how many times I've had this discussion with LIVs.

"I'm off of fossil fuels to save the ERF with my new Prius!"

Where does your local electricity come from?
"Huh"?



Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2019 10:56 PM (cRkMZ)

177 Common Tater, I agree somewhat that the White Album could have been a regular-length album and maybe a follow-up EP, rather than a double. Some of the stuff there is just not that great.

IMHO the first disc is more or less fantastic, the second falls down quite a bit.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 10:56 PM (miE9U)

178 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:55 PM (LsBY9)

Same way she first arrived.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 10:56 PM (McqgV)

179 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:55 PM (LsBY9)

And Maisie Hirono can take the slow boat to Hawaii.

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:56 PM (vBjuR)

180 Inherited a Chocolate Factory, though !!!!



Posted by: Adriane the Bodhran Criic ... at February 09, 2019 10:47 PM


...and has 3 angels.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 10:56 PM (LkFnL)

181
One of those squat, bearded figures with a swastika armband.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:54 PM (LsBY9)

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This explains why the Travelocity Gnome was always shilling vacations in Dachau.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:56 PM (UGqF8)

182 173
Nancy Pelosi has to go back to SF by Conestoga wagon.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:55 PM (LsBY9)


Reliving her childhood.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 09, 2019 10:57 PM (TdMsT)

183 Re: White Album. How they would included Revolution 9 and left off some really good Harrison songs, like All Things Must Pass tells you all you need to know about the state of the band at the time. I.e. A dumpster fire.

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 10:57 PM (7ZQe3)

184 I'd better get back to what I know best. #FreeChepe!

Posted by: Little Lupe at February 09, 2019 10:58 PM (Tyii7)

185 Speaking of NAZIs I see there is a sequel to Iron Sky coming.


It might be interesting....I mean its got Space NAZIs, Hollow Earth and...dinosaurs?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2019 10:58 PM (cRkMZ)

186
Good night, Hordians. Up at 0500.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 09, 2019 10:58 PM (LsBY9)

187 Nancy Pelosi got schlonged on Tuesday night.

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:58 PM (vBjuR)

188 183 Re: White Album. How they would included Revolution 9 and left off some really good Harrison songs, like All Things Must Pass tells you all you need to know about the state of the band at the time. I.e. A dumpster fire.

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 10:57 PM (7ZQe3)


But Charlie Manson liked it!

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2019 10:59 PM (AMIL/)

189 I studied music and I was alone among my classmates in preferring tonal music to atonal. I have to admit though that after studying it, I began to have an appreciation for it. I enjoy Charles Ives. If you asked me to justify it or distinguish it from random notes I couldn't do it, but it just makes my heart beat faster and I like it.

Posted by: Jim S. at February 09, 2019 10:59 PM (ynUnH)

190
Nancy Pelosi got schlonged on Tuesday night.

___

#Jealous!

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 09, 2019 10:59 PM (cRkMZ)

191 Via Don Surber:
https://tinyurl.
com/yxwzw9u8

I don't know what it means but it is so God Emperor.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 09, 2019 10:59 PM (0QYMt)

192 187 Nancy Pelosi got schlonged on Tuesday night.

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 10:58 PM (vBjuR)



Amusing that the media tried to spin her bizarre behavior as "owning Trump."

Posted by: Ladyl at February 09, 2019 11:00 PM (TdMsT)

193 Best thing about Monterey is Laguna Seca.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 09, 2019 11:00 PM (DjIXP)

194 Okay, #191 you got to put together and remove a space at that point. Pixy said it was too long, but that was a Tiny URL.
(Pixy is getting very cranky these days.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 09, 2019 11:00 PM (0QYMt)

195 I actually like atonal music, as well as a lot of its cousin, 12-tone music. It speaks to me at a very profound level.
I understand why a lot of folks don't like either of those, and I agree--it's composers talking to other composers, the public is not invited. It's pretty much the beginning of the end for "serious" music.

Still, it resonates with me and I enjoy it. It's dark and threatening and that kind of art and I get along very well.
Yeah, no wonder no one wants to be around me much.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:00 PM (l9m7l)

196 In other words, an "unauthorized" ONT?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2019 11:01 PM (EZebt)

197 Additional Blond: Atonality and dissonance are not the same. I think even Elvis went for some dissonant chords from time to time.

You are absolutely correct. Dissonance lends a feeling of being unsettled, conflicted, but often resolves to familiar harmonies. Dissonance is neccessary to create tension in music.

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:01 PM (Q+Oiy)

198 Pete Seria, excellent point.

I admit if I was George, I would have been pissed if John & Paul had said my stuff wasn't good enough, but Rev#9 was. WTF?!!?

But then I've been reading that the entire Beatles operation, both personally and professionally, was nothing but a giant bundle of trouble by 1970 anyway. Too much bad business, bad blood and other BS that had compounded upon itself in numerous ways.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:01 PM (miE9U)

199 Nathan Phillips WILL be sued by Sandmann's lawyer.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 09, 2019 11:01 PM (dUJdY)

200
Still, it resonates with me and I enjoy it. It's dark and threatening and that kind of art and I get along very well.
Yeah, no wonder no one wants to be around me much.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:00 PM (l9m7l)
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Wow. And im still trying to figure out what people see in jazz.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 11:02 PM (UGqF8)

201 Nathan Phillips WILL be sued by Sandmann's lawyer.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 09, 2019 11:01 PM (dUJdY)

-----+

It's like the Trail of Tears all over again.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 11:02 PM (UGqF8)

202 You were "forced to study the 12-tone system by Arnold Schoenberg"? Wow! Did the great man tie you up, beat you, or just browbeat you into learning his system?

-
Ve haff vays to makink you sing.

Posted by: Choirmaster Himmler at February 09, 2019 11:02 PM (+y/Ru)

203 I don't know what it means but it is so God Emperor.
***

Hillary as Tzeentch? How about the others?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2019 11:03 PM (cRkMZ)

204 183 Re: White Album. How they would included Revolution 9 and left off some really good Harrison songs, like All Things Must Pass tells you all you need to know about the state of the band at the time. I.e. A dumpster fire.
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 10:57 PM (7ZQe3)


Eh, I like Revolution 9.

Maybe it should have been a triple album!

*dodges thrown objects*

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:03 PM (sdi6R)

205 Any musicians out there who can send me an "Amen"?
Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 10:33 PM (Q+Oiy)

Amen. Frigging nightmare. Where classical music decided to kill itself. Just to show of brilliant it was.

Posted by: Caliban at February 09, 2019 11:03 PM (QE8X6)

206 I've always thought The White Album was way over-rated. Maybe 6 or 7 songs spread out over two discs are keepers. That said, the so-called Esher Demos where the band pretty much runs through most of the album in a stripped-down fashion is very good. It's included on the new 50th Anniversary Edition.

Posted by: The 1970's at February 09, 2019 11:03 PM (o1fzk)

207 On a related note, some federal lands are designated "Wilderness" areas. The feds make some nods in that direction, for example, no motorized vehicles allowed. Not even chainsaws, for trail clearing. Only horse travel, or hiking on foot, is allowed. Bicycles, I suppose. The same nutbars bitching about oil drive to the Trailhead, wear nylon, burn gasoline stoves, and on and on and in. Stupid fuckers. Their entire existence practically is predicated on reasonably priced energy, and that means fossil fuels for many years to come.

But I suggest, maybe probibit cell phones. Flash lights, cameras, GPS, Nylon, plastic, electricity in any form pretty much. You want wilderness? You got it. Here's her pointy stick, and loincloth, have at it. If you get in trouble, get yourself out of it on your own. After all, that's what wilderness means.

Same thing in general with the neo-Luddites and Lysenkoists suddenly in our midst. Give them MFers what they want, good and hard.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 11:03 PM (H4xk5)

208 196 In other words, an "unauthorized" ONT?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 09, 2019 11:01 PM (EZebt)

Unpossible. Only COBs have administrative privileges.

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 11:03 PM (vBjuR)

209 A Nazi Gardening Gnome ???

Posted by: Adriane the Bodhran Criic

One of those squat, bearded figures with a swastika armband.
Posted by: Hadrian
--------

A response, from a Moron Gnome: http://tinyurl.com/yyjhsgrl

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 11:04 PM (4bd7D)

210 Jim S: I studied music and I was alone among my classmates in preferring tonal
music to atonal. I have to admit though that after studying it, I began
to have an appreciation for it. I enjoy Charles Ives. If you asked me to
justify it or distinguish it from random notes I couldn't do it, but it
just makes my heart beat faster and I like it.

I love his "Unanswered Question".

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:04 PM (Q+Oiy)

211 I used to ride bicycle thru 17 mile drive. They would let you in on a bike for free.
Then they made you sign a waiver. OK, we signed it.
Then somebody hit and killed a bicyclist.
Turned out the waiver wasn't worth a damn.
Beautiful area, one of the best.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 09, 2019 11:04 PM (w7KSn)

212 @200 - I take it you've not seen my paintings or animation...which is very sensible, really.
To say nothing of my Led Zepplin reinterpretation. Again, very sensible.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:05 PM (l9m7l)

213 rickl, I know George Harrison more or less disses John and Paul to a large extent on Wah-Wah, which is on the All Things Must Pass album.

I have the impression he dealt with a lot more bullish!t than anyone knows about, given he had THREE FREAKIN' DISCS full of material he was excited to share on ATMP.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:05 PM (miE9U)

214 one of the reasons i like pink floyd is their music often turns from the minor key and dissonance to the major and harmonic - and that's entirely due to gilmour.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 11:05 PM (Pg+x7)

215 ... who is selling off his guitar collection this spring.

gilmour, i mean.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 11:06 PM (Pg+x7)

216 Sorry, that came off as rather sniffy. Apologies, such was not meant.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:06 PM (l9m7l)

217 Mis Hum, myself, and our brides got snowpocalypsed out of going to the MoMee. We are very bummed.



Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (IcJtd)


And Bluebell let us know that you were missing. Sucks you couldn't be there.

Posted by: Vendette at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (9/vGE)

218 Caliban: Amen. Frigging nightmare. Where classical music decided to kill itself. Just to show of brilliant it was.

Your post made me just realize that atonal ism is the "progressive" side of music! Damn leftists!

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (Q+Oiy)

219 43 That was an interesting adaptation of the Pixyware for tonight's ONT.

I for one, was entertained!

Speaking of entertainment.... any survivors from the VaMoMe?

Yes, it was awesome! Thanks Bluebell and Weasel for organizing...

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (QzJWU)

Posted by: Iris at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (6lKe4)

220 Atonal music is to music what the Dada movement was to art.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (w7KSn)

221 Well, I like Revolution #9. It fits into what is a very weird and brilliant LP from start to finish. As far as All Things Must Pass goes, it isn't as strong as the 4 Harrison tunes that were finished for the LP. Harrison got 4 tracks over 4 sides, which was on par for the catalogue (except Yellow Submarine, on which he got a greater share)... More Harrison would have been great, but how to fit in the song?

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (LkFnL)

222 195
I actually like atonal music, as well as a lot of its cousin, 12-tone music. It speaks to me at a very profound level.
I
understand why a lot of folks don't like either of those, and I
agree--it's composers talking to other composers, the public is not
invited. It's pretty much the beginning of the end for "serious" music.

Still, it resonates with me and I enjoy it. It's dark and threatening and that kind of art and I get along very well.
Yeah, no wonder no one wants to be around me much.

Gee - I'd really like to watch some movies with you guys. Lately I've really been getting into scores, which is much less than soundtracks, but still incredibly important. And I hear interesting things, but I have no idea how to describe them in musical terms.
For example: we were talking about The Untouchables below. The train station sequence. Musically, there's the lullaby. Almost sounds like a musicbox. But then they bring in these strings - playing a single chord? And it's a weird chord. It's incredibly effective, but I can't describe it better than that.

Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (98pFy)

223 And from dissonance, move on to the masterful use of minor chords with some Shepard scale type action to boot. Bach's Fantasia and Fugue in C minor, BWV 542, Ton Koopman's rendition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHWdlkgosQ

Pay particular attention at 3:03...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (7s3Gx)

224
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 09, 2019 10:38 PM (IcJtd)

How much snow does it take to keep you Yankees home?

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (vBjuR)

225 I have the impression he dealt with a lot more
bullish!t than anyone knows about, given he had THREE FREAKIN' DISCS
full of material he was excited to share on ATMP.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:05 PM (miE9U)


One of those three discs was jamming by the musicians on ATMP.

Posted by: davidt at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (MI74Q)

226 The Beatles began to fall apart the day Brian Epstein died. He handled the business end and after he died, the band --especially McCartney--tried to pick up the slack....that's when it started to go down hill.

Posted by: The 1970's at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (o1fzk)

227 musical jolly chimp: one of the reasons i like pink floyd is their music often turns from the
minor key and dissonance to the major and harmonic - and that's
entirely due to gilmour.

YESSSSSSSSS!

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:08 PM (Q+Oiy)

228 I'm a musician, classically trained singer.

I had the same look on my face as Elvis' when listening to the atonal claptrap.

Mozart: sublime. Bach: divine. Cage: ludicrous.

Posted by: Flyover at February 09, 2019 11:09 PM (B5K06)

229 Mis Hum, myself, and our brides got snowpocalypsed out of going to the MoMee. We are very bummed.

Posted by: Muad'dib
-------

WTF?

Man...after months of planning.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 09, 2019 11:09 PM (4bd7D)

230 I guess atonal music is like abstract art. Some people like it and some don't. Some people "get" it and some don't.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:09 PM (sdi6R)

231 Please note, Mr Bezos's penis pictures will actually NOT be available through Amazon Prime...we apologize for any confusion on this point.

Posted by: AMAZON customer service at February 09, 2019 11:09 PM (cRkMZ)

232 Additional Blond Agent: And from dissonance, move on to the masterful use of minor chords with
some Shepard scale type action to boot. Bach's Fantasia and Fugue in C
minor, BWV 542, Ton Koopman's rendition

I think I love you.

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:10 PM (Q+Oiy)

233 Wow! I can't believe that I have fans here!

Posted by: John Cage at February 09, 2019 11:10 PM (2qPhT)

234 George Harrison vomited up 5 or 6 years of pent-up songwriting on All Things Must Pass......then what? What did he do of significance for the next thirty years? A couple of singles? The Traveling Wilbury;s?

Posted by: The 1970's at February 09, 2019 11:10 PM (o1fzk)

235 Wah Wah and What Is Life and maybe My Sweet Lord could have bumped other tracks from the White Album... but ATMP? Eh... good song but not a lock.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 11:11 PM (LkFnL)

236 Mis Hum, myself, and our brides got snowpocalypsed out of going to the MoMee. We are very bummed.


___

Snow will be a thing of the past within 10 years.

Posted by: The left in 2006 at February 09, 2019 11:11 PM (cRkMZ)

237 rickl at February 09, 2019 10:41 PM

About the troll: I could delete, but I don't have a banhammer. The troll may be back. But comments on that thread are now closed.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 09, 2019 11:11 PM (BVQ+1)

238 The White Album, single-disc edition, produced by qdpGeorge Martin:

*Side 1*
Back in the USSR
Dear Prudence
Glass Onion
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Happiness Is A Warm Gun

*Side 2*
I'm So Tired
Piggies
Don't Pass Me By
Julia
Birthday
Good Night

And the Beatles White EP:

*Side 1*
Helter Skelter
Revolution (the hard-rock fuzz guitar version)

*Side 2*
Everybody's Got Something To Hide 'Cept For Me And
My Monkey
Savoy Truffle

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:11 PM (miE9U)

239 ickl, I know George Harrison more or less disses
John and Paul to a large extent on Wah-Wah, which is on the All Things
Must Pass album.



I have the impression he dealt with a lot more bullish!t than anyone
knows about, given he had THREE FREAKIN' DISCS full of material he was
excited to share on ATMP.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:05 PM (miE9U)

I sort of have this impression that it would be as easy to work with those guys as to get Patton, Montgomery, MacArthur, and DeGaulle to agree on pizza toppings.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 09, 2019 11:11 PM (0QYMt)

240 Check out Charles Ives's quarter tone pieces -- two pianos set a quarter step apart. To those uninitiated into the cult of atonality it sounds like a horrifically out of tune piano. Freak shows like myself absolutely love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhF0-hN4I8k

Posted by: Jim S. at February 09, 2019 11:11 PM (ynUnH)

241 I want the Black Strat.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 09, 2019 11:12 PM (Tyii7)

242 Off 1970's sock

Posted by: JoeF. at February 09, 2019 11:12 PM (o1fzk)

243 Possibly too late in the thread, but if anyone besides myself got a kick out of Merle Hazard's post-modern Bluegrass, you really need to check out Webb Wilder, the Magnolia State's predecessor to Mr. Hazard, and a first-rate comic actor as well. (Some of you older Morons, like myself, may have caught his short feature that used to be a staple on USA's Night Flight.) Try his short film, Horror Hayride, at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3XEBjL0bDs as a start, or the more recent effort "Scattergun." The epic Night Flight production "Webb Wilder, Private Eye," is a bit more difficult to find on line, but it may still be out there.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at February 09, 2019 11:12 PM (lJMCC)

244 22 Ahhh.
So, Althouse has declared for Liawatha...
But she's "conservative", right?
Heh
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (6qErC)

+++

Yeah.
Can't read her columns. Very lame.
Won't give her traffic, either.

Posted by: Flyover at February 09, 2019 11:12 PM (B5K06)

245 Nancy Pelosi has to go back to SF by Conestoga wagon.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


methane problem

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 09, 2019 11:12 PM (+lVUW)

246 Off on a completely different direction now. Heading to the TV to put on Phillip Glass's "Pruit Igoe" from Koyaanisqatsi.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 09, 2019 11:13 PM (7s3Gx)

247 Nancy Pelosi has to go back to SF by Conestoga wagon.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Then again, it could have interesting consequences. Ponders Donner party.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 09, 2019 11:14 PM (+lVUW)

248 So, Althouse has declared for Liawatha...

***

I thought she just raved over Fauxcahontas's speech? Did she actually endorse her?

Althouse is one of those people that mostly sounds rational and then....votes for someone like Obama or Clinton.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2019 11:14 PM (cRkMZ)

249 The Beatles? Let me tell you about the Beatles.
(prepares blaster under table, then thinks better of it)
They were pretty good mostly.
--Leon

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:14 PM (l9m7l)

250 I know y'all love George, but I always felt like he was the weakest link. At least Ringo was a solid, if not particularly innovative, player. George's guitar playing barely rose to mediocrity, and I think Lennon helped him with most of his better songs.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:15 PM (McqgV)

251 I play acoustic guitar somewhat poorly, I find the whole thing with scales and tuning and the rest of it fascinating. It's like a gift from the Gods, who left a long time ago or something.

I mean, I get the part about stretching some strings and making some thumping noises. But the intervals, and scales and chords, it's just amazing how beautiful it can be. And it never gets old. Every time I get 'er tuned up right it sounds fresh. Always. Ain't that weird?

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 11:15 PM (H4xk5)

252 Hi there, how's everyone's night going?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2019 11:15 PM (wc+kn)

253 Jim S: Check out Charles Ives's quarter tone pieces -- two pianos set a quarter
step apart. To those uninitiated into the cult of atonality it sounds
like a horrifically out of tune piano. Freak shows like myself
absolutely love it.

That's where I go totally crazy! I teach beginning band and my life is filled with quarter tones! LOL!

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:15 PM (Q+Oiy)

254 Then again, it could have interesting consequences. Ponders Donner party.
Posted by: nerdygirl

We leave it up to you to point out the "shortcut".

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 09, 2019 11:15 PM (LOq4H)

255 Mikey, that was true at the end.

I think Lennon was borderline paranoid by 1971. He was claiming practically everything on McCartney's Ram album, from 1971, was Paul ridiculing him. (Probably true about Too Many People and Smile Away, but the rest of it, not so sure.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:16 PM (miE9U)

256 Do like music in tune?
Thank Pythagoras.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 09, 2019 11:16 PM (w7KSn)

257 238--good job. That's similar to my line-up except I would add the electric "Revolution" to the album and also "Hey Jude", which was recorded during the sessions and had already been released as a single.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 09, 2019 11:16 PM (o1fzk)

258 John Cage had great *ideas* which were interesting and made folks look at what they were doing.
His actual works, on the other hand, weren't much. 4.33 is a terrific idea, hilarious even, but once you've done that, then what? If you take it as a gatepost, you're saying nothing is music.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:17 PM (l9m7l)

259 Tammy, who knows.
I personally think George was the most grounded Beatle, followed by Ringo. Paul and John were off in -la-land by 1970 and while John seemed to be coming down finally, right at the time he got shot, Paul still seems to be there.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:17 PM (miE9U)

260 Which ties into a theory I've long held.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:17 PM (l9m7l)

261 What I mean, is the chords and notes, scales, who invented that? There's some mathematical genius stuffed in there somewhere. I can make nice music, I can noodle around, but the people who invented such devices, is really amazing to me.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 11:18 PM (H4xk5)

262 Lennon once said we never heard their best stuff because once they hit it big it was already starting to go downhill. I tend to believe that.

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 11:18 PM (7ZQe3)

263 I already said: Pythagoras.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 09, 2019 11:19 PM (w7KSn)

264 250
I know y'all love George, but I always felt like he was the weakest
link. At least Ringo was a solid, if not particularly innovative,
player. George's guitar playing barely rose to mediocrity, and I think
Lennon helped him with most of his better songs.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
Whoa there.

Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 11:19 PM (98pFy)

265 Pete Seria, yup.

I really wish John had survived his shooting in 1980. I have a strong hunch he'd be a complete different person today, than the one who wrote "Imagine." He most likely would never be a Trump supporter, but at least he'd be living in the real world.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:19 PM (miE9U)

266 160 not far from that monterey is the bixby creek bridge, a beautiful concrete bridge that shows the influence of the great swiss engineer robert maillart. and just south of the bixby bridge is the old brazil ranch, owned by allen funt, who raised horses there.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 09, 2019 10:51 PM (Pg+x7)


Bixby Creek Bridge is the venue for a great many car commercials. Was there once when they were filming a Bentley commercial. They cleared everyone out of the area, but we asked if we could stay. They said sure, but no cameras.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2019 11:19 PM (LMcFk)

267 Paul wasn't really that into the group that much there at the last, what with him being dead and all.

If anyone besides myself got a kick out of Merle Hazard's post-modern Bluegrass, you really need to check out Webb Wilder, the Magnolia State's predecessor to Mr. Hazard, and a first-rate comic actor as well. (Some of you older Morons, like myself, may have caught his short feature that used to be a staple on USA's Night Flight.) Try his short film, Horror Hayride, at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3XEBjL0bDs as a start, or the more recent effort "Scattergun." The epic Night Flight production "Webb Wilder, Private Eye," is a bit more difficult to find on line, but it may still be out there.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at February 09, 2019 11:20 PM (lJMCC)

268 One Harrison song I think is underrated is "It's All Too Much" on the Yellow Submarine album.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:20 PM (sdi6R)

269 I'll give George this--While My Guitar Gently Weeps is the best song on The White Album, But it says a lot that Eric Clapton had to be drafted in to play the guitar solo....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 09, 2019 11:20 PM (o1fzk)

270 I think Ringo was probably the most grounded/normal. George certainly more "regular guy" than Paul or John, but a little more woo-woo than Ringo.
In all fairness, they all seem like they were pretty decent guys to me, barring outsized musical egos from Paul and John.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:22 PM (McqgV)

271 252 Hi there, how's everyone's night going?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2019 11:15 PM (wc+kn)


Hi Hogmartin! Great day today and another coming up tomorrow! And you?

Posted by: Ladyl at February 09, 2019 11:22 PM (TdMsT)

272 I'm like the opposite of a musical savant. Any time music gets fancy with dual notes and so on it just becomes noise to my brain. I have to fast forward through the last little bit of music where the artist or band is showing off.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 09, 2019 11:22 PM (jUcoH)

273 262
Lennon once said we never heard their best stuff because once they hit
it big it was already starting to go downhill. I tend to believe that.

Posted by: Pete Seria
This. They were the greatest club/theater rock and roll band ever. Listen to their live shows on the bbc. And so much of it was covers, which showed they could do holly, berry, motown, etc., as good as the original. But that ended when they played shea stadium. damn shame.

Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 11:23 PM (98pFy)

274 Hi Hogmartin! We're all being high-fallutin!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:23 PM (l9m7l)

275 Your post made me just realize that atonal ism is the "progressive" side of music! Damn leftists!
Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:07 PM (Q+Oiy)

Not sure if you're punking me, but the atonalists were indeed classical music's "progressives," and their goal was the same as our modern "progressives"; not sure if I have to spell that out.

As for Charles Ives, he's not in the "atonal" camp, not by a long shot. His thing was Transcendentalism. It had a spiritual basis. The "atonalists"--not so much.

By the way, I have a bench in my front foyer made from the organ Ives played in Danbury at the Congregational Church--which I also played after it changed into a Lutheran church and the Congregationalists moved down the street.

I also remember being in grade school and seeing Charles Ives' house being moved down Main Street to Roger's Park, cut in half. Something weirdly appropriate about that.

Posted by: Caliban at February 09, 2019 11:23 PM (QE8X6)

276 248
Althouse is one of those people that mostly sounds rational and then....votes for someone like Obama or Clinton.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2019 11:14 PM (cRkMZ)


Yeah, I only read her when someone links to her.

Although her profile picture is pretty cute.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:23 PM (sdi6R)

277 Speaking of underrated Beatle songs, Hey Bulldog stands out as one of the best. Hell, even Rush uses it for bumper music on occasion. Same era as the White Album.

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 11:23 PM (7ZQe3)

278 Common Tater: What I mean, is the chords and notes, scales, who invented that? There's
some mathematical genius stuffed in there somewhere. I can make nice
music, I can noodle around, but the people who invented such devices, is
really amazing to me.

You may only noodle around on guitar, but good for you for trying. All the theory stuff comes with time and a lot of study. I play many instruments, but I suck at guitar. Keep at it!

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:23 PM (Q+Oiy)

279 I have a confession to make: I can't stand the fucking Beatles. I've heard every single bit of their musical output dozens of times (at least) and none of it has ever impressed me. They have a few cute songs . . . which are so overplayed that I'm sick of them. Everything else strikes me as pretentious crap, over-praised and over-analyzed.

I think we should have dealt with the musical "British Invasion" the way we handled them at Concord.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 09, 2019 11:24 PM (+yR45)

280 Posted by: JoeF. at February 09, 2019 11:20 PM (o1fzk)

Didn't Lennon help him with the lyrics?

I have nothing against George at all, just not seeing tremendous talent.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:24 PM (McqgV)

281 ...and has 3 angels.
Posted by: otho


and a mustache, a cane, and a funny walk ?

Posted by: Adriane the Bodhran Criic ... at February 09, 2019 11:25 PM (LPnfS)

282 They were the greatest club/theater rock and roll
band ever. Listen to their live shows on the bbc. And so much of it was
covers, which showed they could do holly, berry, motown, etc., as good
as the original. But that ended when they played shea stadium. damn
shame.


Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 11:23 PM (98pFy)


Their manager turned them into a boy band, which made the band schizophrenic.

Posted by: davidt at February 09, 2019 11:25 PM (MI74Q)

283 "How would you handle an employee who refuses to attend company parties?"





Give that man/woman the "Employee of the Year" award.



Why?



He/she sees the company as a place to work, not the socialize. People like that tend to not engage in office politics and backbiting.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper learning to code at February 09, 2019 11:25 PM (fdTrp)

284 Tammy, not arguing with you so much, but George seemed to have the most respect for religious faith, which unfortunately John was kind of a jerk about for a while.

Also, when George went to San Francisco at the height of the Haight (pun intended) era, he came back and told the truth about it: that it was a bunch of drug-addled BS. Gotta respect that. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:26 PM (miE9U)

285 234 George Harrison vomited up 5 or 6 years of pent-up songwriting on All Things Must Pass......then what? What did he do of significance for the next thirty years? A couple of singles? The Traveling Wilbury;s?
Posted by: The 1970's at February 09, 2019 11:10 PM (o1fzk)
---------------

Handmade Films.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 09, 2019 11:26 PM (WEBkv)

286 Hello Hordies,

No casualties, no cops, everyone behaved within acceptable parameters. Many entertaining and enlightening conversations. In the last one of the evening, topics included hentai, guns, and killing with a spork.

Many thanks to Nearsider, Bluebell, and Weasel for orchestrating this, the best, NoVaMoMee yet!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 09, 2019 11:26 PM (eFRS+)

287 I listen to things from all across the musical spectrum, and I can enjoy and appreciate all of it.
I don't say that so I can stick my thumbs in my suspenders and grin condescendingly. It's just what it is. Noise has been a part of my life since forever. Instruments create sounds, voices create sounds, natural forces create sounds.

I've made a lot of (for me) interesting stuff just from recording frogs, or rainstorms, or a dryer on its last legs.

It's all noise, and it all depends on how that noise is organized. The organization is what makes "music."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:27 PM (l9m7l)

288 I'd have to say, looking back, having immersed myself in a lot of 60s thru 80s pop music, many of the really famous bands - technically speaking - were a bunch of hacks, esp. in the 60s. Maybe especially in the 60s. Most of their studio cuts were done by session musicians.

The Beatles didn't do that. And it shows, in later years I think. They did play their own instruments, but never live after '66. I would agree there's more than just technical proficiency, but by the same token cranking an amplifier up to 11 and running it through a bunch of effects is kind of BS too, and smashing instruments. I mean the Who were cool and all, but...

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 11:27 PM (H4xk5)

289 davidt, that's how the Beatles were marketed at the beginning in 1962, no question.

I think part of the reason we still have so many annoying "boy bands" today is because of that. These band members' POV is, they see that the Beatles started that way, so... maybe they could grow into that kind of stature?

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:27 PM (miE9U)

290 Caliban

I think I love you too! JK. Yeah, Ives was more into polytonality. Not my favorite, but quite the maverick.

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:28 PM (Q+Oiy)

291 I started watching Arn the Templar Knight on a recommendation from a friend.
It was pretty good, some PC but by Swedish standards, much less then I would have expected.
But then I looked up the author and he was apparently a Soviet agent in Sweden?
What The Hell

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2019 11:28 PM (cRkMZ)

292 And don't forget the stuff Harrison wrote to hand off to Ringo, like It Don't Come Easy and Photograph. Great tunes.

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 11:28 PM (7ZQe3)

293 In the last one of the evening, topics included hentai, guns, and killing with a spork.

Sounds like a good start on the '20 GOP platform!

Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2019 11:28 PM (LMcFk)

294 273
But that ended when they played shea stadium. damn shame.
Posted by: Vertov at February 09, 2019 11:23 PM (98pFy)


What? That was their greatest performance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQdAO9UsWho

The guy in the checkered suit at 1:25 is really into it.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:28 PM (sdi6R)

295 Pete Seria, exactly.
Ringo did some of the all-time best Beatles solo stuff, ever.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:29 PM (miE9U)

296 One Harrison song I think is underrated is "It's All Too Much" on the Yellow Submarine album.


Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:20 PM


One of my fave Beatles songs and fantastic psychedelia. The whole side of that LP is under rated.

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 11:30 PM (LkFnL)

297 I have a confession to make: I can't stand the fucking Beatles. I've heard every single bit of their musical output dozens of times (at least) and none of it has ever impressed me. They have a few cute songs . . . which are so overplayed that I'm sick of them. Everything else strikes me as pretentious crap, over-praised and over-analyzed.

I think we should have dealt with the musical "British Invasion" the way we handled them at Concord.
Posted by: Trimegistus at February 09, 2019 11:24 PM (+yR45)

I would only disagree with the last sentence. Some of the British Invasion was good, just not the Beatles.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 09, 2019 11:30 PM (Ct8k6)

298 Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:26 PM (miE9U)

Oh honey, we're not arguing, we're discussing! I enjoy it.
I appreciate both of their viewpoints, frankly. I confess to having less-than-respectful thoughts about organized religion and the assholes in charge of it myself.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:30 PM (McqgV)

299 292 And don't forget the stuff Harrison wrote to hand off to Ringo, like It Don't Come Easy and Photograph. Great tunes.
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 09, 2019 11:28 PM (7ZQe3)
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Heh. I seem to recall the credits on Ringo's "solo" album contained every single one of the Beatles.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 09, 2019 11:31 PM (WEBkv)

300 Tammy, I feel the same way. I've never found a big-time Christian personality who really, REALLY impressed me that much.

Even Billy Graham always seemed a little too cozy with whomever was in the WH in any given year...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:31 PM (miE9U)

301
I have a confession to make: I can't stand the fucking Beatles. I've
heard every single bit of their musical output dozens of times (at
least) and none of it has ever impressed me. They have a few cute songs .
. . which are so overplayed that I'm sick of them. Everything else
strikes me as pretentious crap, over-praised and over-analyzed.



I think we should have dealt with the musical "British Invasion" the way we handled them at Concord.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 09, 2019 11:24 PM (+yR45)


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Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 09, 2019 11:32 PM (9Om/r)

302 True Story: First time Little Girl Tammy heard Light My Fire by the Doors, she thought it was Ringo.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:33 PM (McqgV)

303 Hi Hogmartin! Great day today and another coming up tomorrow! And you?
Posted by: Ladyl at February 09, 2019 11:22 PM (TdMsT)
Hi Hogmartin! We're all being high-fallutin!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 09, 2019 11:23 PM (l9m7l)

Looks like a classy ONT! Just dropped by to say hi. Very nice weather today, got to meet some cool people.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2019 11:33 PM (wc+kn)

304 " What did he do of significance for the next thirty years? A couple of singles? The Traveling Wilbury;s?


Posted by: The 1970's"

He financed making "Life of Brian", which makes him OK in my book.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 09, 2019 11:34 PM (DjIXP)

305 Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:16 PM (miE9U)

I think the answer is they should have stuck with beer and whisky. The drugs and the Indian guru stuff was a bit too much.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 09, 2019 11:34 PM (0QYMt)

306 Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:31 PM (miE9U)

In Rev Graham's defense, the guys living in the WH were the ones who initiated the calls and pursued the relationships!

Billy Graham was the real deal.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:36 PM (McqgV)

307 Mikey, no question about that.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:36 PM (miE9U)

308 Tammy, good point.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:36 PM (miE9U)

309 248
So, Althouse has declared for Liawatha...

***

I thought she just raved over Fauxcahontas's speech? Did she actually endorse her?

Althouse is one of those people that mostly sounds rational and then....votes for someone like Obama or Clinton.


Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2019 11:14 PM (cRkMZ)



Then she will act all shocked that the Dem acting like a Dem with power and write about how awful their policies are, and then turn around and vote for their re-election because the GOP candidate isn't sufficiently northeastern.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper learning to code at February 09, 2019 11:37 PM (fdTrp)

310 the Nazi troll got deleted from that thread and is back to fapping to vintage Helen Thomas pix.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2019 11:37 PM (ykYG2)

311 I wouldn't say I hate the Beatles, but I am damn sick of them, partly because even in my teenage years there was no escaping them on the radio, but mostly because Thor is a major fan.

If I never heard another Beatles, Hendrix or Who song for the rest of my life, I probably wouldn't care. (I do like plenty of Beatles songs,though)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:38 PM (McqgV)

312 Beckoning Chasm. That's cool. I can appreciate natural sounds, used to pull some up rain or storm recordings on youtube when I had to drown out coworker phone calls. But my brain can't process multiple notes at once or other sophisticated bits.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 09, 2019 11:39 PM (jUcoH)

313 the Nazi troll got deleted from that thread and is back to fapping to vintage Helen Thomas pix.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2019 11:37 PM (ykYG2)


Helen was hawt in the 1860s.
Those ankles!! Woo!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:39 PM (miE9U)

314 Frankly, Lennon's output was depressing. I liked a lot of the R&R stuff up until Rain a little bit, but Strawberry Fields for ex. is just dreck. McCartney was a musical genius in many ways, and I think Lennon was too in early years, but a big part of the skepticism I have was the hype that they were good, and that was all there was to it. Being For the Benefit of Mr Kite, the guy was off his noodle. Sad really.

Most pop tunes I've heard so many times, they just don't interest me.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 11:39 PM (H4xk5)

315 I think the answer is they should have stuck with beer and whisky. The drugs and the Indian guru stuff was a bit too much.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 09, 2019 11:34 PM (0QYMt)

I remember in the 60s and 70s, there was nothing more fun than gathering around the Sears stereo at a pool party and singing Beatles tunes at the top of our lungs (in between crunching Budweiser cans). "Revolver" and "Rubber Soul" were the apex, IMHO. Got a little too gimmicky after that.

Posted by: Caliban at February 09, 2019 11:40 PM (QE8X6)

316 if i never heard another beatles song for the rest of my life, i would be fine with that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 09, 2019 11:40 PM (KP5rU)

317 For everyone who's sick of the Beatles...

I just recently learned, I don't know if it's permanent or not, but SiriusXM just launched, on their Channel 30:

KISS Army radio!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:40 PM (miE9U)

318 Common Tater, I agree an awful lot of Lennon's output was sour and/or dour for too long.

He finally seemed to be coming out of that in 1980, alas.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:41 PM (miE9U)

319 Test

Posted by: Cheribebe at February 09, 2019 11:42 PM (fnWQo)

320 Love my hometown California but paying to drive down that beautiful road sent my self right outta that wonderful place.

Posted by: Summer of Love at February 09, 2019 11:43 PM (FJrl0)

321 Looks like a classy ONT! Just dropped by to say hi. Very nice weather today, got to meet some cool people.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 09, 2019 11:33 PM (wc+kn)
Hi hogmartin, glad you all had a good time. Classy? *goes check mirror, boxers, ripped and stained t-shirt, unkempt hair, and needs a shave*

Yep, classy!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 09, 2019 11:43 PM (Ct8k6)

322 Now on teh OT - a very lovely day in Michigan with clear skies and calm winds. It felt a lot warmer than it was. Made a little road trip to Ypsilanti to check out a hobby store, the Model Cave. A small shop with stacks of kits, tools, paints, and so on. Picked up some paint for an F4F Wildcat and then saw a kit for an F9C Sparrowhawk.
The Sparrowhawk was a little fighter, a biplane, of which less than a dozen were built. They operated from the airships USS Akron and USS Macon. They had the hook on the upper wing and connected with a trapeze thing on the bottom of the dirigible and were swung up and in. Totally wild and of course I got it. And one for a Curtiss P-6E Hawk in the colors of the 17th Pursuit Squadron from Selfridge Field here in Michigan.
Sparrowhawk: https://tinyurl.com/y3632sxn
P-6E: https://tinyurl.com/y24xmkgy

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 09, 2019 11:44 PM (0QYMt)

323 318 Common Tater, I agree an awful lot of Lennon's output was sour and/or dour for too long.

He finally seemed to be coming out of that in 1980, alas.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:41 PM (miE9U)


Supposedly he met Ronald Reagan in the late 70s and they kind of hit it off. (No, not like that, you pervs)


"Strawberry Fields Forever" is one of my favorite Beatles songs.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:44 PM (sdi6R)

324 How are your New Year's Resolutions coming along?

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 11:44 PM (vBjuR)

325 Additional Blond Agent: And from dissonance, move on to the masterful use of minor chords with

some Shepard scale type action to boot. Bach's Fantasia and Fugue in C

minor, BWV 542, Ton Koopman's rendition

I think I love you.


>8^>

Ok, Phillip Glass is done. Tossed on "The Grid" for good measure (making sure the subwoofer's on for the Apollo 11 launch section)...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 09, 2019 11:45 PM (7s3Gx)

326 I think McCartney had the broadest general talent, that when Lennon was good he was very,very good and the most musically sophisticated for lack of a better way to put it, and that George and Ringo were probably replaceable overall, but perhaps added that grounding that steve mentions, as well as buffering the egos of LM.

It's easy to look back and wonder what the big deal was, but you kind of forget what an impact they made with some of their music. I actually prefer the "She Loves You yea, yea, yea" era pop stuff, but the Sgt Pepper and all the weirder crap was game-changing at the time.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:48 PM (McqgV)

327 I'm waiting for the DMCA takedown notice on the Lone Cypress picture, the Pebble Beach Company used to splatter warnings all over the place about their copyright in all representations of the Lone Cypress.

Posted by: JEM at February 09, 2019 11:48 PM (8erNz)

328 *A timeline of New Year's resolution*

January 1: "I'm gonna make these changes and make my life better if it kills me"

February 1: "Okay, I hit a few setbacks but I'm still gonna do these"

March 1: "I'll just be happy if things don't get any worse"

April 1: "What resolutions?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:48 PM (miE9U)

329 For everyone who's sick of the Beatles...

I just recently learned, I don't know if it's permanent or not, but SiriusXM just launched, on their Channel 30:

KISS Army radio!!
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:40 PM (miE9U)

Channel 30 seems to rotate thru various artists every few days. I remeber hearing a radio interview with the Sex Pistols, and a caller asked them what they thought of Kiss, and much to the callers disappointment they said they sucked as well. The caller asked them what kind of stage show they has, they answered we don't have a stage show, we play music, hilarious.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 09, 2019 11:49 PM (Ct8k6)

330 Additional Blond Agent: And from dissonance, move on to the masterful use of minor chords with


some Shepard scale type action to boot. Bach's Fantasia and Fugue in C


minor, BWV 542, Ton Koopman's rendition

I think I love you.

That was just a joke and a nod to your knowledge of the Shepard tone!

Posted by: dimuse at February 09, 2019 11:50 PM (Q+Oiy)

331 Tammy, yup.

I have both Beatles greatest hits compilations, 1962-1966 and 1967-1970.

My mom remembers when the Beatles first hit it on Ed Sullivan, and loved them then. She loves the stuff on 1962-1966, and REALLY doesn't like the stuff on 1967-1970, with the exception of the first half of "Hey Jude."

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:50 PM (miE9U)

332 In addition to golf places all over, there are some surprising military places in Monterey. There is everything the US military that put places like Iran and Afghanistan on training.

The other thing is constant landslides that come in every time the Hwy 1 Big Sur is blocked.

Posted by: Errnst Blofled at February 09, 2019 11:51 PM (1K3Ie)

333 the beatles; four limey wankers.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 09, 2019 11:51 PM (KP5rU)

334 Evasive, true.

It'd be interesting if they tried a few new artists on a few new permanent channels, and waited to see who did the best. An all-Billy Joel channel? All-Nirvana/grunge? KISS and hair metal? Hmmm...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:52 PM (miE9U)

335 if i never heard another beatles song for the rest of my life, i would be fine with that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 09, 2019 11:40 PM (KP5rU)


My ears are conditioned not to hear it anyway, so even if one of the songs was playing it wouldn't register.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 09, 2019 11:53 PM (9Om/r)

336 the beatles; four limey wankers.

They were mostly Irish by blood, like the Smiths.

Also wankers.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 09, 2019 11:53 PM (ykYG2)

337 Somebody mentioned Monterey.

The 1967 Monterey Pop festival was 100x better than Woodstock in 1969, musically speaking. Discuss.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:53 PM (sdi6R)

338 There's a YouTube guitar instructor, Andy, at ShutUpAndPlay, he's excellent and have learned a few tunes.

Zeppelin tunes are fun, and I didn't realize how mellow they were. I wouldn't say easy listening, but their blues stuff never interested me much. Brits trying to copy old black delta guys always rubbed me the wrong way. But Pages acoustic stuff is sometimes amazing. I leaned Bron y Aur, a real pretty acoustic tune in C6 tuning. It's actually fairly easy to play.

This is what's surprising. Sometimes songs that I assumed were very difficult, aren't always that tough! On the other hand, some very basic songs in first position are very difficult to emulate. Lots of bluegrass tunes, like Doc Watson and those guys. Somebody should have hooked Doc up to a stratocaster and a marshall stack, just once, in front of those damn hippies!

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 11:53 PM (H4xk5)

339 rickl, I tend to agree.

In 1967 the music still counted.
By 1969 it was all about the drugs, man. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:54 PM (miE9U)

340 roky erickson, and blue cheer were doing psychedelic shit way before those beatle wankers. did it better too.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 09, 2019 11:56 PM (KP5rU)

341 339 rickl, I tend to agree.

In 1967 the music still counted.
By 1969 it was all about the drugs, man. :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:54 PM (miE9U)


Yup. You can actually see the effects of the drugs if you compare the two.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:56 PM (sdi6R)

342 Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:50 PM (miE9U)

Is that the CD set that's got a red pack and a blue pack? I have that one!
I think Abby Road is my favorite, though like I said I love all the early teeny-bopper stuff, too.

I do LOVE Helter Skelter, and wish it hadn't got such a hideous association, and like you, I love that fuzzy Revolution a lot. Also love Rain, Julia, and plenty of the ballads like Hey Jude and Long and Winding Road. LaWR is a beautiful, beautiful song.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:57 PM (McqgV)

343 chavez, I have Blue Cheer's Vincebus Eruptum.
Great album.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:57 PM (miE9U)

344 How are your New Year's Resolutions coming along?
Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 11:44 PM (vBjuR)


As I mentioned in Wednesday's ONT, I went fishin' on Tuesday. "Moar Fishin'" was my one New Year's Resolution, and since I haven't fished at all in the past few years, I guess you could say I have fulfilled my Resolution.

But, since I didn't catch anything, and since I bought new waders, boots, and a fishing license ($57!!!), I figure I'd better get a few more fishing days in.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2019 11:58 PM (LMcFk)

345 Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:53 PM (sdi6R)

Oh hell yes.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 09, 2019 11:58 PM (McqgV)

346 I remeber hearing a radio interview with the Sex
Pistols, and a caller asked them what they thought of Kiss, and much to
the callers disappointment they said they sucked as well. The caller
asked them what kind of stage show they has, they answered we don't have
a stage show, we play music, hilarious.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 09, 2019 11:49 PM (Ct8k6)


I remember my brother told me that the founder of KISS saw Liberace perform in Vegas. Liberace came in flying down with a gold cape, and all of the smoke effects and so on, and that was where he got the idea of being so over-the-top spectacular that you would be propelled into awesomeness.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (0QYMt)

347 Common Tater, I agree an awful lot of Lennon's output was sour and/or dour for too long.

He finally seemed to be coming out of that in 1980, alas.


Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:41 PM


Earlier. Around 74 or so. Check out the "Rock n Roll" LP...

Posted by: otho at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (LkFnL)

348 Tammy, yup. 1962-1966 is a red double album, 1967-1970 is a blue double album (and features the photo of the Beatles that *would* have been the cover of their final album, Get Back, if things hadn't gone so sideways).

Abbey Road was a classy way to go out, agreed.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (miE9U)

349 But, since I didn't catch anything, and since I bought new waders, boots, and a fishing license ($57!!!), I figure I'd better get a few more fishing days in.
Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2019 11:58 PM (LMcFk)

How many fish can you buy for $57 at the supermarket?

Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (vBjuR)

350 337 Somebody mentioned Monterey.

The 1967 Monterey Pop festival was 100x better than Woodstock in 1969, musically speaking. Discuss.
Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2019 11:53 PM (sdi6R)
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The good times were in '65 and '66 ... the "Summer of Love" was a media creation, or worse. By then the drugs and speed and really bad scenes started in earnest. The whole "counterculture" was anything but. The media was heavily involved, record contracts, magazines, movies, everything. It was a co-option of the Youth Movement. I'm not sure they were all on the payroll, a lot of people seem to think so. It fits.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (H4xk5)

351 343; yup. insideoutside is out there too.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (KP5rU)

352 It'd be interesting if they tried a few new artists on a few new permanent channels, and waited to see who did the best. An all-Billy Joel channel? All-Nirvana/grunge? KISS and hair metal? Hmmm...
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:52 PM (miE9U)

That would be nice.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (Ct8k6)

353 Somebody should have hooked Doc up to a stratocaster and a marshall stack, just once, in front of those damn hippies!

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 11:53 PM (H4xk5)


yup Marshall, when the 60 cycle hum of a strat just isn't loud enough. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (9Om/r)

354 Average Guy: As I mentioned in Wednesday's ONT, I went fishin' on Tuesday. "Moar
Fishin'" was my one New Year's Resolution, and since I haven't fished at
all in the past few years, I guess you could say I have fulfilled my
Resolution.


My resolution too. Won't be fishing until the ice melts around here. Hope you catch something soon!

Posted by: dimuse at February 10, 2019 12:00 AM (Q+Oiy)

355 I also agree that Long and Winding Road is a great song, if rather sad.

I actually kind of prefer the version Paul McCartney claims he wanted to release in 1970, which wasn't released until the Let It Be Naked album came out, which removed all of Phil Spector's weirdness.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 10, 2019 12:00 AM (miE9U)

356 Anyway, I infinitely prefer the Stones to the Beatles.
But I have to admit that the irony of Keith Richards calling Sgt Pepper rubbish is hysterical to me, given Satanic Majesty's Request....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 10, 2019 12:02 AM (McqgV)

357 The good times were in '65 and '66 ...

So you say.

Posted by: the Hacienda, 1990 at February 10, 2019 12:03 AM (ykYG2)

358 Monterey, great memories... youngest son who majored in baseball and business graduated from CSU Monterey. He loved seeing the old parts of Ft Ord on campus and what a beautiful location

Posted by: the Butcher at February 10, 2019 12:03 AM (OonSC)

359 I remember my brother told me that the founder of KISS saw Liberace perform in Vegas. Liberace came in flying down with a gold cape, and all of the smoke effects and so on, and that was where he got the idea of being so over-the-top spectacular that you would be propelled into awesomeness.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (0QYMt)

Lol, the Beatles, Sex Pistols, and Kiss were all in the manufactured band group.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:05 AM (Ct8k6)

360 How many fish can you buy for $57 at the supermarket?
Posted by: ALH at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (vBjuR)


My resolution was moar fishin', not moar fish. You can't buy numb fingers and a runny nose at the supermarket. Walmart doesn't sell slipping on the rocks and filling your waders with water. Last I checked, the Quik-E-Mart doesn't stock hopelessly knotting up you leader or losing your flies in a shrub.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 10, 2019 12:06 AM (LMcFk)

361 359: obviously, there was no quality control in that manufacturing process. like a fucking chinese steel mill.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 10, 2019 12:07 AM (KP5rU)

362 Anyway, I infinitely prefer the Stones to the Beatles.
But I have to admit that the irony of Keith Richards calling Sgt Pepper rubbish is hysterical to me, given Satanic Majesty's Request....


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 10, 2019 12:02 AM


TSMR is under rated. It has some clunky tracks, but it has some absolute gems as well. The problem with getting into TSMR is that it is approached like a pop album... like Sgt Pepper. It's not. It's... out there. Think Pink Floyd in 67 and the album really comes into focus... even the weird fucked up bits!

Posted by: otho at February 10, 2019 12:07 AM (LkFnL)

363 I saw Four Limey Wankers open for Thin Lizzy at Gazzari's in '81.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 12:08 AM (UGqF8)

364 I wish McCartney would have kept going in the classical direction; I thought his symphony or whatever it was, was quite good.That's where his talent lies... instrumentality as well as the ability to envision/imagine more complex arrangements, which he learned at George Martin's knee, no doubt.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 10, 2019 12:08 AM (McqgV)

365 348 Tammy, yup. 1962-1966 is a red double album, 1967-1970 is a blue double album (and features the photo of the Beatles that *would* have been the cover of their final album, Get Back, if things hadn't gone so sideways).

Abbey Road was a classy way to go out, agreed.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (miE9U)


I had both of those on vinyl, and they were my introduction to the Beatles.

The photo on the red album was the actual photo on their first British album, "Please Please Me", in 1963.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 12:09 AM (sdi6R)

366 Late to the thread, just got home from bowling so I haven't read any of the comments. Occasional-Cortex and her GND are going to so f*ck stuff up. Her whole premise is based on the idiot UN IPCC (?) report that says in 12 years if we're not at zero emissions, there is no going back. We will all die from gorebull enwarmening. They're bracing for the wrong problem. It's not CO2 driving the climate, it's the sun. and the sun is going into a Solar Minimum at best and a Maunder Minimum at worst. Some estimates I've seen say 2020 to 2040 of much cooler temps, and some say it could last up to 400 years.

I'm old. I'll probably die in the next ten years. But it will be fun to see them spin a lot of people dying from the cold as dying from gorebull enwarmening.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 12:10 AM (gEvQ8)

367 "Supposedly he met Ronald Reagan in the late 70s and they kind of hit it off. (No, not like that, you pervs)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s16NcDji_rY

Posted by: Rachel Dolezal at February 10, 2019 12:11 AM (k3WO2)

368 357 The good times were in '65 and '66 ...

So you say.
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Well I wasn't there, but by most accounts the "scene" was decidedly much less groovy after 1966, the Monterey Pop Festival might have been a high point. 1967 was pretty much a crisis for San Francisco. 1968 overall was a disaster, again by most accounts, and 1969 wasn't much better. Altamont was kind of a bookend, culturally. There were still some huge music festivals after that.

Interestingly if you look at high school yearbook pictures in the midwest, long hair and drugs didn't take off in a big way until the 1970s!

Posted by: Common Tater at February 10, 2019 12:11 AM (H4xk5)

369 Posted by: otho at February 10, 2019 12:07 AM (LkFnL)

Ha, I am but a peasant, with very plebeian tastes, and am seldom able to appreciate "out there"!
Atonal music, for instance. Just.,,, no. Thank you, but no.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 10, 2019 12:12 AM (McqgV)

370 My resolution too. Won't be fishing until the ice melts around here. Hope you catch something soon!
Posted by: dimuse at February 10, 2019 12:00 AM (Q+Oiy)

#metoo

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:12 AM (Ct8k6)

371 Back from an evening out, eating and drinking (sparingly). Will endeavour to catch up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:14 AM (nPGq2)

372 only brits worth a damn, FREE & PETER GREEN

Posted by: vizzy at February 10, 2019 12:15 AM (s5Khz)

373 You can also see the butterflies at Natural Bridges in Santa Cruz in the eucalyptus trees. I suppose it's neat, but I don't find it spectacular.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (Pj7+0)

When you get right down to it, they're bugs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:15 AM (nPGq2)

374 Late to the thread, just got home from bowling so I haven't read any of the comments. Occasional-Cortex and her GND are going to so f*ck stuff up. Her whole premise is based on the idiot UN IPCC (?) report that says in 12 years if we're not at zero emissions, there is no going back. We will all die from gorebull enwarmening. They're bracing for the wrong problem. It's not CO2 driving the climate, it's the sun. and the sun is going into a Solar Minimum at best and a Maunder Minimum at worst. Some estimates I've seen say 2020 to 2040 of much cooler temps, and some say it could last up to 400 years.

I'm old. I'll probably die in the next ten years. But it will be fun to see them spin a lot of people dying from the cold as dying from gorebull enwarmening.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 12:10 AM (gEvQ

I ask the global warming fanatics, shouldn't we just undo some of the things to stop global cooling we did in the 70's. Receive dumb look back.

I hope you last more than 10 years.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:15 AM (Ct8k6)

375
I hope you last more than 10 years.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:15 AM (Ct8k6)

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I said the same thing about my new washing machine.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 12:17 AM (UGqF8)

376 I am gonna hit the hay now... I'm at my mama's; she called Thor and I over to turn off her lights and put her laundry in the dryer. Kind of worried about her, she needs another hip replacement and it seems like it has gotten way worse in the last week or so, which seems weird to me. I asked her if she had fallen down, and she says she didn't, but it seems so strange that arthritis would take a sudden extreme turn like that.
Anyway, goodnight, dear ones!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 10, 2019 12:17 AM (McqgV)

377 350
The good times were in '65 and '66 ... the "Summer of Love" was a media creation, or worse. By then the drugs and speed and really bad scenes started in earnest. The whole "counterculture" was anything but. The media was heavily involved, record contracts, magazines, movies, everything. It was a co-option of the Youth Movement. I'm not sure they were all on the payroll, a lot of people seem to think so. It fits.
Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2019 11:59 PM (H4xk5)


I agree with you about 1965 and 66, and I said that here just a few days ago.

As for your second point, see this appearance by Jefferson Airplane on American Bandstand in 1967:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKtJ0XTwgTE

Note especially the interviews with the band members, and how one of them is practically apologizing for wanting to make money.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 12:22 AM (sdi6R)

378 Goodnight Tammy!

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 10, 2019 12:22 AM (miE9U)

379 They're bracing for the wrong problem.

The problem isn't the problem. The problem they're bracing for is the introduction of moar socialism, by any means necessary. They're still pushing the globull warming crap because they're too lazy to think up another lie.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 10, 2019 12:23 AM (0bu2O)

380 Has this been the best week ever?

State of the union

Green new deal

Virginia democrats gone wild.

and now 50' Italian Trump

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2019 12:23 AM (LWu6U)

381 Gentlemen, you forgot a sh!tload of smug socialjustice journalists having to enroll in computer camp

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 10, 2019 12:25 AM (ykYG2)

382 You can also see the butterflies at Natural Bridges in Santa Cruz in the eucalyptus trees. I suppose it's neat, but I don't find it spectacular.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2019 10:04 PM (Pj7+0)

When you get right down to it, they're bugs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:15 AM (nPGq2)


Yes, yes they are. But if you're into said bugs, other places to see them are Pacific Grove and Los Osos. I'm sure there'll be a flood of Hordelings making a beeline for the central coast due to this information.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 10, 2019 12:25 AM (LMcFk)

383 I said the same thing about my new washing machine.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 12:17 AM (UGqF

If my washing machine lasted less than that, my wife will really dislike the new washing machine:

https://www.lehmans.com/product/lehmans-own-laundry-hand-washer-with-wringer/

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:26 AM (Ct8k6)

384 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 10, 2019 12:17 AM (McqgV)

Goodnight!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:27 AM (Ct8k6)

385 Posted by: otho at February 10, 2019 12:07 AM (LkFnL)

Ha, I am but a peasant, with very plebeian tastes, and am seldom able to appreciate "out there"!
Atonal music, for instance. Just.,,, no. Thank you, but no.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 10, 2019 12:12 AM


Satanic Majesties is early Pink Floyd, pre Gong style psychedelia. Best experienced on LSD, but even without it tracks like 2000 Light Years From Home and She's A Rainbow help break up the weirdness.

Posted by: otho at February 10, 2019 12:27 AM (LkFnL)

386 "Note especially the interviews with the band members, and how one of them is practically apologizing for wanting to make money."

Reminiscent of the latter day asshats who hector the Great Unwashed about their "carbon footprint" while they jet off to Davos for a "Summit". It's all BS.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 10, 2019 12:27 AM (H4xk5)

387 Gentlemen, you forgot a sh!tload of smug socialjustice journalists having to enroll in computer camp
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 10, 2019 12:25 AM (ykYG2)


Telling journos to #LearnToCode is small-minded and mean-spirited. Instead, you should be helpful and pragmatic. Tell them to check out https://www.codecademy.com/

Posted by: Average Guy at February 10, 2019 12:31 AM (LMcFk)

388 What I have found interesting about musical artists, is that they have about a 7-8 year window when they put out their best stuff, and then poof, it's gone.



And it doesn't matter how many albums that they put out or how few, it just kind of goes away. If you think about it, The Who, Queen, Beatles, Stones, and others had about 7 years of great to very good albums/music, and then the shit starting flowing. Yeah, they would have a few good songs on an album, but then they would put out shit like "Undercover of the Night", "Athena", and other crap.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper learning to code at February 10, 2019 12:32 AM (fdTrp)

389 In ten years, if the Democrats have outlawed internal combustion, fossil fueled engines, I am guessing the farms of this country will be producing a fraction of the food they produce today. I would guess about 1/5th at the maximum. And without those same IC engines to transport it, I am guessing not much of that food will be getting to the large cities that are the main support for the Democratic Party. So, if the Democrats actually succeed legislatively, I am guessing they would be killing off about 80% of the people that support them, by starvation. I don't think that even qualifies as a Pyric victory.
If anyone ever wondered if stupidity could be weapons of mass destruction level, I give you the Green New Deal.

Posted by: JB1000 at February 10, 2019 12:34 AM (aZ9CV)

390 reading Astra Lost In Space manga. Their first trip out of Earth's gravity - "it's stuffy in here. can someone open a window?"

- i admit it, i lol'ed

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 10, 2019 12:34 AM (ykYG2)

391 Gentlemen, you forgot a sh!tload of smug socialjustice journalists having to enroll in computer camp
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 10, 2019 12:25 AM (ykYG2)

Telling journos to #LearnToCode is small-minded and mean-spirited. Instead, you should be helpful and pragmatic. Tell them to check out https://www.codecademy.com/
Posted by: Average Guy at February 10, 2019 12:31 AM (LMcFk)

It's been scientifically proven that journalist are way to dumb to learn to code.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:35 AM (Ct8k6)

392 I give you the Green New Deal.
Posted by: JB1000 at February 10, 2019 12:34 AM (aZ9CV)


Hey, if Stalin could do it...

Posted by: Average Guy at February 10, 2019 12:36 AM (LMcFk)

393 If anyone ever wondered if stupidity could be weapons of mass destruction level, I give you the Green New Deal.

Posted by: JB1000 at February 10, 2019 12:34 AM (aZ9CV)

They want to control the Great Unwashed. They forget that a good many of them are heavily armed. And are getting annoyed.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 12:37 AM (gEvQ8)

394 What I have found interesting about musical artists, is that they have about a 7-8 year window when they put out their best stuff, and then poof, it's gone.



And it doesn't matter how many albums that they put out or how few, it just kind of goes away. If you think about it, The Who, Queen, Beatles, Stones, and others had about 7 years of great to very good albums/music, and then the shit starting flowing. Yeah, they would have a few good songs on an album, but then they would put out shit like "Undercover of the Night", "Athena", and other crap.


Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper learning to code at February 10, 2019 12:32 AM


"Undercover" *shudder*. Generally that's true. Won't speak re The Who or Queen, but the Beatles only lasted 8 years or so and would have had a few good years after that, till the mid 70's or so.. The Stones also managed a similar run of around 12 years or so.

Posted by: otho at February 10, 2019 12:37 AM (LkFnL)

395 I enjoyed watching the AAF Football game. Good football. Great to see Steve Spurrier back coaching again.

Posted by: literally serious at February 10, 2019 12:38 AM (P+Keb)

396 My mom remembers when the Beatles first hit it on Ed Sullivan, and loved them then. She loves the stuff on 1962-1966, and REALLY doesn't like the stuff on 1967-1970, with the exception of the first half of "Hey Jude."

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 09, 2019 11:50 PM (miE9U)


I remember that Sunday night when the Beatles played on Ed Sullivan. I was in front of the tv about an hour before broadcast just to make sure the channel was set to CBS. And you talk of your Mom remembering? Thanks, pal, you young whippersnapper you.

Damn, when people talk about being 29-years-old here, I didn't know I was supposed to take that for realz. My lawn, with alacrity you will vacate.

As for The Beatles, looking back, I think they peaked with their 45 'Paperback Writer', a wonderful, 'punchy' song. I also love the song 'I Feel Fine'; those opening chords are unmistakable. The Beatles had that 3-minute radio pop tune format down pat which affected radio music for years, and I think for the worse. Songs approaching 4 minutes might never get airplay or, like Yes' Roundabout, chopped to unlistenable trash.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2019 12:38 AM (Y8PSl)

397 They want to control the Great Unwashed. They forget that a good many of them are heavily armed. And are getting annoyed.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 12:37 AM (gEvQ

Heck with heavily armed. We just need to remind them where their food comes from, it doesn't magically appear at their grocery store.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:39 AM (Ct8k6)

398 I'd agree with that. 3 to 5 good albums maybe. Really good albums.

I always cringe when some performer is giving an interview 10 years past their last (shitty) album, fresh out of rehab, "We're doing some really exciting stuff in the studio, we think it's our best album yet." Yeah, no. It's like lightning in a bottle, it can't be forced or whatever.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 10, 2019 12:39 AM (H4xk5)

399 "Undercover" *shudder*. Generally that's true. Won't
speak re The Who or Queen, but the Beatles only lasted 8 years or so
and would have had a few good years after that, till the mid 70's or
so.. The Stones also managed a similar run of around 12 years or so.

Posted by: otho at February 10, 2019 12:37 AM (LkFnL)

And the number of bands that hit the top ten that last less than five years. The Allman Brothers was one of the best that I had ever heard (IMHO), but lasted less than five on the radio.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 12:40 AM (gEvQ8)

400 What I have found interesting about musical artists, is that they have about a 7-8 year window when they put out their best stuff, and then poof, it's gone.

Pretty much. Unless you're New Order or Fleetwood Mac and you break up and re-form a decade later or so.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 10, 2019 12:41 AM (ykYG2)

401 They want to control the Great Unwashed.
Posted by: Old Blue

The dems already have the homeless vote.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 10, 2019 12:41 AM (LOq4H)

402 ...In ten years, if the Democrats have outlawed internal combustion, fossil fueled engines, I am guessing the farms of this country will be producing a fraction of the food they produce today. I would guess about 1/5th at the maximum.... *insert break*

Posted by: JB1000 at February 10, 2019 12:34 AM (aZ9CV)


Pre-industrial farming would be LUCKY to produce as much as ONE to TWO percent of the yield of modern, mechanized farming.

Not only for the tractors for tilling, planting and harvest.

But the mechanization goes to irrigation, and the chemicals go to fertilization, weed, insect and varmint control, too.

Cotton harvesting machines do the Ginning operation while in motion in the field, and spit out compressed and bound bales, ready for shipment.

That's only one example.

The starvation would be Kulakian in scope, but it'll likely never happen.

Shootin' will start long before the de-internal-combustioning could ever fully be effected.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2019 12:42 AM (QzJWU)

403 I just saw the babalu bimbo in a video linked by insty.

I had never heard her talkbefore; man this woman is priceless. I think her secret is that she really is so stupid that she has no idea how much she does not know. She seems so arrogant in her superior knowledge - she really is the perfect millennial candidate. God help us.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2019 12:44 AM (LWu6U)

404


Barrel is fine with me.

I've got a nice, used Bourbon barrel, which will suit quite nicely, here.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2019 12:44 AM (QzJWU)

405 RickZ, thanks I think.

I'm coming up this year on 24 years since I turned 29. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 10, 2019 12:44 AM (miE9U)

406 Been trying to catch up with the Elder God the last few days. Does that guy ever come around here anymore? Slapweasel gave me a #, but I am not sure that its correct.
Heck, it's been so long for me that I don't recognize half the names here!
Hello, btw. I missed most of you windowlickers.

Posted by: Tittyface Jenkins at February 10, 2019 12:45 AM (UNBhj)

407 Bixby Creek Bridge is the venue for a great many car commercials. Was there once when they were filming a Bentley commercial. They cleared everyone out of the area, but we asked if we could stay. They said sure, but no cameras.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 09, 2019 11:19 PM (LMcFk)

Bentleys for the last 20-odd years have been so ugly, they'd break your camera anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:46 AM (nPGq2)

408 So "net zero" carbon means no fossil fuel. Add nuclear to the ban list, and it also means:

No plastic
No steel
No cement
No fertilizer
No tractors
No satellites
No integrated circuits
No heating fuel
No electricity

Unless mankind can invent replacement technologies that are not dependent on coal, gas, or oil

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2019 12:47 AM (LWu6U)

409 Dammit Jim, next time Mrs. Old Blue and I are visiting kin down in Santa Fe, I'm going to have to look you up long enough to lift a couple of cold ones and chew the fat.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 12:49 AM (gEvQ8)

410 ...Dammit Jim, next time Mrs. Old Blue and I are visiting kin down in Santa Fe, I'm going to have to look you up long enough to lift a couple of cold ones and chew the fat.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 12:49 AM (gEvQ



Do it, amigo. My email is in my nic.

Santa Fe is but thirty minutes up the road from me, and that's if I catch more than my share of red lights.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2019 12:51 AM (QzJWU)

411 So here in western Washington it has been snowing for three days and will snow all next week. And tonight, the furnace crapped out.

Can't figure out why. So I dragged our box spring and mattress into a far corner of the family room and have built a pretty decent little blaze in the fireplace in the opposite corner. Pioneer living at its finest. Nice and cozy. And now there is Early Times bourbon involved.

Night-night everyone.

Posted by: Skookumchuk@ymail.com at February 10, 2019 12:52 AM (k3g2v)

412 392 average guy "hey, if stalin could do it..."

and that is very much to the point. i've just finished reading a long academic article (available at junk science.com) by stephen brain called "the great stalin plan for the transformation of nature", an attempt to reforestate the steppes. turns out hitler and mussolini had the same interests in controlling and remaking nature, much as they sought to remake man. with roots in the enlightenment, and not just the french revolution, these visionaries easily justified breaking eggs - and people - to achieve their utopian omelets.

how much does all that resonate in the g.n.d. with its massive (they use that word a lot) scheme.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2019 12:52 AM (Pg+x7)

413 When the methane frozen at the bottom of the ocean bubbles up into the atmosphere from warming oceans president aoc will have to decide who gets turned into renewable energy first.

Posted by: ramondo at February 10, 2019 12:52 AM (YGMxB)

414
I just saw the babalu bimbo in a video linked by insty.



Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2019 12:44 AM (LWu6U====

I'm convinced that she's purely the creature of a tiny but influential engine called Justice Democrats headed by a Harvard grad named Saikat Chakrabarti. Look out for that name. The New York Editing Girls are all swoony for him, and I'm sure he'll mate with a prominent lefty politico or journo. He's only 32 so he's going to be around a while, and he could get very powerful. He might recruit the next Barack Obama.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 10, 2019 12:54 AM (13CQC)

415 The Lone Cypress™ is a registered trademark of The Pebble Beach Company. The unauthorized commercial use of it or any photographs or likenesses thereof is prohibited. You must take down the photo by 12:01 AM PST Monday or we will press charges. THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING!

Posted by: The Pebble Beach Company at February 10, 2019 12:54 AM (tVQUs)

416 Can't figure out why. So I dragged our box spring and mattress into a far corner of the family room and have built a pretty decent little blaze in the fireplace in the opposite corner. Pioneer living at its finest. Nice and cozy. And now there is Early Times bourbon involved.

Night-night everyone.
Posted by: Skookumchuk@ymail.com at February 10, 2019 12:52 AM (k3g2v)

-------


Remember, cannibalism is a last resort, to be used only after the pets have been consumed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 12:54 AM (UGqF8)

417
Oh, and good evening.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 10, 2019 12:54 AM (13CQC)

418 ... "the great stalin plan for the transformation of nature" by stephen brain, oxford journals, laurentian university, via junkscience.com.

highly recommended. really puts the g.n.d. and theses new totalitarians in context.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2019 12:55 AM (Pg+x7)

419 388 What I have found interesting about musical artists, is that they have about a 7-8 year window when they put out their best stuff, and then poof, it's gone.



And it doesn't matter how many albums that they put out or how few, it just kind of goes away. If you think about it, The Who, Queen, Beatles, Stones, and others had about 7 years of great to very good albums/music, and then the shit starting flowing. Yeah, they would have a few good songs on an album, but then they would put out shit like "Undercover of the Night", "Athena", and other crap.
Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper learning to code at February 10, 2019 12:32 AM (fdTrp)


That's generally true, except for outliers like Bob Dylan, who has had multiple ups and downs in his career. He has released several great albums in recent years that sound nothing like his classics from the 1960s.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 12:55 AM (sdi6R)

420 Saikat Chakrabarti Posted by: Blonde Morticia

He's AOCs CoS right?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 10, 2019 12:56 AM (LOq4H)

421 So "net zero" carbon means no fossil fuel. Add nuclear to the ban list, and it also means:

No plastic
No steel
No cement
No fertilizer
No tractors
No satellites
No integrated circuits
No heating fuel
No electricity

Unless mankind can invent replacement technologies that are not dependent on coal, gas, or oil
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2019 12:47 AM (LWu6U)

I think we just have to tell the younger generation, no internet, no cell phone.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:57 AM (Ct8k6)

422 415
Hey! Far Use doctrine!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 10, 2019 01:00 AM (LOq4H)

423 okay, Astra Lost In Space is a good one. A literal Space Odyssey where these kids have to find a hyperspace route back home. and no tentacles

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 10, 2019 01:01 AM (ykYG2)

424 Far=Fair
It's the cold.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 10, 2019 01:01 AM (LOq4H)

425 that Twitter account is now suspended...

surprise! (not)

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 10, 2019 01:02 AM (ATMED)

426 Goodnight all, thanks for the fun chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 10, 2019 01:02 AM (miE9U)

427 424
Far=Fair

It's the cold.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 10, 2019 01:01 AM (LOq4H)



I know, right?
Shrinkage.


Posted by: George Costanza at February 10, 2019 01:02 AM (8iiMU)

428 Hey Bezos, do me a favor and buy The Pebble Beach Company. Put in Hovercraft (sans Eels) landing berths for surface shipments from China.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 10, 2019 01:04 AM (RuIsu)

429 Goodnight all, thanks for the fun chat tonight.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 10, 2019 01:02 AM (miE9U)

Goodnight!

I'm heading to bed too.

Goodnight all!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 01:04 AM (Ct8k6)

430 414
I'm convinced that she's purely the creature of a tiny but influential engine called Justice Democrats headed by a Harvard grad named Saikat Chakrabarti. Look out for that name. The New York Editing Girls are all swoony for him, and I'm sure he'll mate with a prominent lefty politico or journo. He's only 32 so he's going to be around a while, and he could get very powerful. He might recruit the next Barack Obama.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 10, 2019 12:54 AM (13CQC)


Lizzy twigged me to him yesterday. I can't say any more than that.

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 01:05 AM (sdi6R)

431 No glass
No aluminum
No macadam (so roads would be back to hand hewn cobbles)
No advanced material batteries
No air conditioning

Heating would be back to wood
Transportation would be back to horses
Shipping would be by sail

We might have enough electricity to run public transport and essential lighting.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2019 01:05 AM (LWu6U)

432 We might have enough electricity to run public transport and essential lighting.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2019 01:05 AM (LWu6U)

And 'essential' means NOT for you!

Posted by: Your Betters at February 10, 2019 01:07 AM (8iiMU)

433 Yesler, in Seattle sold the end butts of logs to the city for wooden cobbles. In the summer the horse urine soaked wood made smog seem like a good deal.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 10, 2019 01:09 AM (LOq4H)

434 ... the same sweeping visions of massive change.

... the same goals of engineering nature and society.

... the same rhetoric of confident certainty.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2019 01:10 AM (Pg+x7)

435 I will disagree.
Allman Brothers. Duane may be in the ground, but they found Warren Haynes to carry the torch. And he doez it with a passion.
ZZ TOP lost it for a few years during the Mtv era, but Billy, Dusty & Frank still kick ass. Don't get me started on Buddy Guy...

Posted by: Tittyface Jenkins at February 10, 2019 01:11 AM (UNBhj)

436 So here in western Washington it has been snowing for three days and will snow all next week. And tonight, the furnace crapped out.

Can't figure out why. So I dragged our box spring and mattress into a far corner of the family room and have built a pretty decent little blaze in the fireplace in the opposite corner. Pioneer living at its finest. Nice and cozy. And now there is Early Times bourbon involved.

Night-night everyone.

Posted by: Skookumchuk@ymail.com at February 10, 2019 12:52 AM (k3g2v)


Also in Western Washington, along Hood Canal.

Early Times used to be one of my favorite bourbons, but I decided it was a little bland and have shifted to Old Overholt and Old Grandad (not technically bourbons, but in the same general class of spirits).

Your camping experience sounds like fun. The power went out last night, but the house is well-insulated enough that we were able to ride it out until morning, and it came back on around 6 am. In the event of a more extended outage, or an outright furnace failure, we have a fireplace at one end of the house and a wood stove at the other end, so we would do something similar.

Posted by: HTL at February 10, 2019 01:12 AM (2dzsA)

437 Yesler, in Seattle sold the end butts of logs to the city for wooden cobbles. In the summer the horse urine soaked wood made smog seem like a good deal.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 10, 2019 01:09 AM (LOq4H)

Vancouver, B.C. has wood block pavement, too. I remember seeing it in some old streets in the Chinatown and Gastown neighborhoods. The blocks were rectangular, about 6 by 8 inches, IIRC. How deep, I don't know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 01:15 AM (nPGq2)

438 The end of internal combustion dystopia will likely not affect Texas as badly as the rest of the Nation.

Texas is on it's own electrical grid, and you can be assured that firepower will have been brought to bear, long before they even TRY to turn the engines off, forever.

Wanna see a mass exodus of Yankees fleeing Texas?

Let this GND shit pass into law, and see how long those hippies last in this state.

They'd be lucky to get away with ONLY tar n' feathers.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX



Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2019 01:16 AM (QzJWU)

439 g'night all

keep warm

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 10, 2019 01:17 AM (LWu6U)

440 430 414
I'm convinced that she's purely the creature of a tiny but influential engine called Justice Democrats headed by a Harvard grad named Saikat Chakrabarti. Look out for that name. The New York Editing Girls are all swoony for him, and I'm sure he'll mate with a prominent lefty politico or journo. He's only 32 so he's going to be around a while, and he could get very powerful. He might recruit the next Barack Obama.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 10, 2019 12:54 AM (13CQC)

Lizzy twigged me to him yesterday. I can't say any more than that.

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2019 01:05 AM (sdi6R)

Thank the Lord for those autistic anons for their research work.

Posted by: literally serious at February 10, 2019 01:20 AM (P+Keb)

441 "Texas is on it's own electrical grid, and you can be assured that
firepower will have been brought to bear, long before they even TRY to
turn the engines off, forever."

IIRC, Michigan deploys more deer hunters than Canada has active and reserve army.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 10, 2019 01:23 AM (0QYMt)

442


Pressed Rat and Warthog have closed down their shop.
They didn't want to, 'twas all they had got.
Selling atonal apples, amplified heat,
And Pressed Rat's collection of dog legs and feet.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 10, 2019 01:23 AM (aKsyK)

443 HTK, 436 - Early Times "Bottled in Bond" is a bit more expensive that the regular stuff but worth it. Though normally, I'm a Buffalo Trace and Old Weller (when I can find it) kinda guy.

AOP, 437 - Same in Seattle, Also, wooden water pipes, both in Seattle and the suburbs.

If we don't freeze tonight like Scott in the Antarctic, we'll see you tomorrow...

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 10, 2019 01:24 AM (k3g2v)

444 Time to hit the sack. Early rise in the ayem to go to local swap meet. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 01:26 AM (nPGq2)

445 ...If we don't freeze tonight like Scott in the Antarctic, we'll see you tomorrow...

Posted by: Skookumchuk at February 10, 2019 01:24 AM (k3g2v)



If you DO, then leave me your cache of buried Scotch in your will.

I don't want no ownership quarrels, some hundred odd years later, y'hear!?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2019 01:30 AM (QzJWU)

446 Okay, this is over two years old, but it is cool. The Kalamazoo Air Zoo got an SBD Dauntless, from Lake Michigan, and it is under restoration.
https://tinyurl.com/y6dxap56
I so want to see that and I hope they do the restoration to "flying condition" just because.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit Musical Learning to Code! at February 10, 2019 01:32 AM (0QYMt)

447 I don't want no ownership quarrels, some hundred odd years later, y'hear!?

Well, he will be kind of frozen, so I don't think he would really mind. He wouldn't want that to go to waste, right?

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 01:32 AM (gEvQ8)

448 ...Well, he will be kind of frozen, so I don't think he would really mind. He wouldn't want that to go to waste, right?


Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 01:32 AM (gEvQ




I don't want no frozen explorersicles.

But I'd happly try out some frozen Scotchicisles.



Hasta la nite nite, Horde!

*turns up thermostat to 73*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2019 01:40 AM (QzJWU)

449 Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Hit
Musical Learning to Code! at February 10, 2019 01:32 AM (0QYMt)

One of my favorite aircraft models to build when I was but a young moron. SBD's sunk all four IJN flattops at Midway. Hiryu, Soryu, Kaga, Akagi. It didn't defeat their entire surface force, the IJN did serious damage to our surface force during Guadalcanal and Santa Cruz, but after that, they were a spent force.

So many have forgotten the sacrifices our men have made for their freedom.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 01:40 AM (gEvQ8)

450 so many have forgotten...

the guts of adm. nimitz who, having lost most of his fleet, ventured out against a numerically superior foe twice at the risk of losing everything, and defeated and sent them reeling within 7 months.

among the greatest gambles and achievements ever at sea.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2019 01:49 AM (Pg+x7)

451 ... or ever on land or sea.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2019 01:53 AM (Pg+x7)

452 Bentleys for the last 20-odd years have been so ugly, they'd break your camera anyway.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2019 12:46 AM (nPGq2)


Yeah, this one was quite hideous. To accentuate the godawful lines of the car, it was painted a metal flake puke green color.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 10, 2019 01:57 AM (LMcFk)

453 So many have forgotten the sacrifices our men have made for their freedom.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 01:40 AM (gEvQ


--------

If you're willing to sacrifice cars, air travel, air conditioning and steaks, AOC has a way for you to do your part too, peasant.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 01:57 AM (UGqF8)

454 Great critiques in the quillette link. Its refreshing to see academics with common sense.

Posted by: LASue at February 10, 2019 02:00 AM (XROPS)

455 > Pressed Rat and Warthog have closed down their shop.
They didn't want to, 'twas all they had got.
Selling atonal apples, amplified heat,
And Pressed Rat's collection of dog legs and feet.

For the longest time I thought it was "eternal apples". But "atonal apples" obviously makes a lot more sense. Obviously.

Under certain conditions prevalent in the late 60s, anyway.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 02:01 AM (0OWcv)

456 I've got a nice, used Bourbon barrel, which will suit quite nicely, here.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 10, 2019 12:44 AM (QzJWU)


Was in a deli in SF today, buying sammiches for a little (rainy) day-trip to the coast. They had a limited edition Goose Island bourbon-barrel aged stout there. $26 for a 500ml bottle.

No, thanks.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 10, 2019 02:02 AM (LMcFk)

457 If you're willing to sacrifice cars, air travel, air
conditioning and steaks, AOC has a way for you to do your part too,
peasant.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2019 01:57 AM (UGqF

I'm old and cranky there is not a snowball's chance in hell that I would surrender to that horse toothed communist.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 02:03 AM (gEvQ8)

458 OCrazyHo's repeated gaffes and lies, while entertaining, are overshadowing Ilhan "Brotherfucker" Omar's call for TSA agents to get their back pay, one hour before calling for defunding DHS altogether.

Make up your mind, you crazy bag lady.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 02:04 AM (0OWcv)

459 > I'm old and cranky there is not a snowball's chance in hell that I would surrender to that horse toothed communist.

Dead on a pile of hot brass, as Mr. Schlichter put it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 02:04 AM (0OWcv)

460 On Horde recommendation, I'm eating steaks, drinking bourbon, and have begun watching "The Wire." It looks really good.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 10, 2019 02:06 AM (5aX2M)

461 > Unless mankind can invent replacement technologies that are not dependent on coal, gas, or oil

Well, we have nuclear, but OCrazyHo doesn't want us to use that, either.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 02:08 AM (0OWcv)

462 > I'm convinced that she's purely the creature of a tiny but influential engine called Justice Democrats headed by a Harvard grad named Saikat Chakrabarti.

He's the one whose metadata was in the New Communist Manifesto.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 02:09 AM (0OWcv)

463 Evening/morning all. Just back from a 4 hour trip to the ER after hurting a hip in a fall tonight. Just a pulled muscle, thank God. No walking for a few days though.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 10, 2019 02:16 AM (ffYR/)

464
WHOA, cm. Sorry to hear that but I'm glad you're okay.


I guess you'll be at your keyboard for a while.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 10, 2019 02:17 AM (13CQC)

465 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 02:09 AM (0OWcv)

Looks like it. And it looks like it'll be up to us to make this known.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 10, 2019 02:22 AM (t0Z53)

466 463
Evening/morning all. Just back from a 4 hour trip to the ER after
hurting a hip in a fall tonight. Just a pulled muscle, thank God. No
walking for a few days though.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 10, 2019 02:16 AM (ffYR/)

This just in! CNN reporting! CM will definitely be on the Wall Of Shame next week. Stay tuned for further updates! This is...CNN!
Glad you're ok buddy. Ice, heat and ibuprofen. Stay well.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 10, 2019 02:24 AM (gEvQ8)

467 Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 10, 2019 02:16 AM (ffYR/)

Ouch! I'm glad you got it checked out! Rest up.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 10, 2019 02:24 AM (t0Z53)

468 Thanks all. A few beers and then Dreamland tonight. Yes, I will be around and posting for a few days.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 10, 2019 02:28 AM (ffYR/)

469 Make up your mind, you crazy bag lady.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 02:04 AM (0OWcv)

That's what happens when you fuck your brother.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at February 10, 2019 02:34 AM (8iiMU)

470 460
On Horde recommendation, I'm eating steaks, drinking bourbon, and have begun watching "The Wire." It looks really good.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 10, 2019 02:06 AM (5aX2M)

You will enjoy it.
What struck me when watching it was the dialogue. A lot if it was stuff real people say to each other.
At least that is what I think.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at February 10, 2019 02:37 AM (8iiMU)

471 Lol, the Beatles, Sex Pistols, and Kiss were all in the manufactured band group.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at February 10, 2019 12:05 AM (Ct8k6)


I'm used to the idiotic Beatles bashing here, or so I thought until I read this crap.Hop into a time machine, travel to 1962 Hamburg and the Cavern Club (pre-Epstein), get your ass kicked by some real rock and roll.

Posted by: Call me Deacon Bleau at February 10, 2019 02:42 AM (0x00j)

472 22 Ahhh.

So, Althouse has declared for Liawatha...

But she's "conservative", right?

Heh
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (6qErC)

Not seeing this anywhere.

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 03:19 AM (gbepJ)

473 23 I don't understand everything here, and turn DOWN your speakers, but...

@spergwyatt

HAHAHAHHAHA

THEY MADE A 5 STORY TALL GOD EMPEROR TRUMP IN ITALY AND BLASTED CAROLUS REX BY SABATON OVER LOUDSPEAKERS

twitter.com/spergwyatt/status/1094406987998203904
Posted by: weft-cut-loop at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (whUgy)

This Account Has Been Suspended, it says.

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 03:22 AM (gbepJ)

474
When the methane frozen at the bottom of the ocean bubbles up into the atmosphere from warming oceans president aoc will have to decide who gets turned into renewable energy first.

Posted by: ramondo at February 10, 2019 12:52 AM


Shouldn't you be out beating up little old ladies and stealing their purses with your tiny little MS-13 friends?

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 03:23 AM (jYje5)

475 I'm convinced that she's purely the creature of a tiny but influential
engine called Justice Democrats headed by a Harvard grad named Saikat
Chakrabarti.



He's the one whose metadata was in the New Communist Manifesto. "


Indians (dot not feather) who cannot cut it in India are telling us what we need to do to achieve Samadi ?

Posted by: stonecutter at February 10, 2019 03:24 AM (Bfr22)

476 Had to really think what day it is, no I don't have to get up.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 03:28 AM (/rm4P)

477
Indians (dot not feather) who cannot cut it in India are telling us what we need to do to achieve Samadi ?

Posted by: stonecutter at February 10, 2019 03:24 AM (Bfr22

====

Him and Sundar Pichai and a ton of other dot-not-feather CNN "analysts." What gives?


Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 10, 2019 03:31 AM (13CQC)

478 There is a phenomenon where very large volumes of gasses are released under water which rise up rapidly. And boat or ship caught in this gas bubble rising will lose buoyancy and sink. Has really happened a few times.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 03:33 AM (/rm4P)

479 Oh HELLZ YEAH!!!

\m/ \m/
Posted by: Insomniac at February 09, 2019 10:11 PM (NWiLs)

I'm late to the party here.

But Sabaton is fucking awesome. Their entire shtick is songs about wars, battles, military units and soldiers. They rule.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 03:34 AM (7PLM4)

480 Think it was a ONT years ago that brought up secondarily language or race population in each state, Asian Indians are the 2nd most in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 03:37 AM (/rm4P)

481
One time when I was taking a bath as a kid and I farted real bad and one of my plastic boats sunk. Like that?

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 03:40 AM (jYje5)

482
Gateway Pundit pulled the metadata on the AOC 'Green Deal' PDF and it was created using LibreOffice Writer 4.2 by Saikat Chakrabarti. So a Linux guy, perhaps.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 03:46 AM (jYje5)

483 I remember Samadhi. Was that Satansfist from the Thomas Covenant series? A real bastard

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 10, 2019 03:47 AM (ykYG2)

484 This seems like an appropriate time to turn to the Horde for sleep medicine advice... has anyone here ever used a CPAP device? Was it worth it? How much did insurance cover? And how do you find a suitable vendor who won't rip you off? Are you better off going to a local medical supply vendor and jumping through the insurance hoops, or just buying online and paying out of pocket?

I recently got diagnosed with mild sleep apnea and the doc recommended I get a CPAP. The first vendor he contacted wouldn't accept my insurance. The second vendor had someone call me and try to talk me into spending $200 up front BEFORE I even had a chance to choose a device. She also had a very thick accent and I had a hard time understanding her (call center in India). Any tips on how to find a decent vendor would be greatly appreciated....

Posted by: Secret Square at February 10, 2019 03:52 AM (9WuX0)

485
But Sabaton is fucking awesome. Their entire shtick is songs about wars, battles, military units and soldiers. They rule.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 03:34 AM (7PLM4)

====
when I saw that tweet I ran to Youtube and watched some Sabaton. What the... and they're European, right?
I didn't get that parade in Italy of all places, COLUMNS of guys dressed up as Roman soldiers and girls dressed up like ancient cheerleaders or whatever, but it was crazy-cool.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 10, 2019 03:55 AM (13CQC)

486
Someone did a slow mo frame by frame of Paris protestor picking up a bang grenade... Don't try this at home.
https://twitter.com/PureTele/status/1094368538784161797

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 03:57 AM (jYje5)

487
More France (Montpellier) stuff. Don't chat up the police while they're hosing down protestors...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1094371410946990082

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 04:04 AM (jYje5)

488 Here is the uTube link:
https://tinyurl.com/y3pvt5co

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at February 10, 2019 04:08 AM (8iiMU)

489 488
Here is the uTube link:
https://tinyurl.com/y3pvt5co



Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at February 10, 2019 04:08 AM (8iiMU)


Of the Trump float warrior thingy.

LMFAO

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 10, 2019 04:09 AM (8iiMU)

490 "I didn't get that parade in Italy of all places, COLUMNS of guys dressed up as Roman soldiers and girls dressed up like ancient cheerleaders or whatever, but it was crazy-cool."
-Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 10, 2019 03:55 AM (13CQC)

It was a line of Valkyries leading the Space Force into Battle.

Want to hear something cool? How's about Orson Welles sending you off into Righteous Battle?

Defender:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AMi-vCfAWw

Ride like the wind. Fight proud, my Son. You're The Defender God has sent.

Posted by: Slapweasel at February 10, 2019 04:12 AM (Ckg4U)

491
Looks like Cortez is a one-term deal. Burgeoning (illegal) populations elsewhere means NY is going to lose a district. Don't let the door hit ya in the ass...


https://theintercept.com/2019/02/09/ocasio-cortez-district-
redistricting-2020/

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 04:13 AM (jYje5)

492 18
Bad as Weird Dave is, he never pulled that crap on us.



(just kidding, Weird Dave is one of my top 10 ONT hosts. KT is up there too.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 09, 2019 10:05 PM (LWu6U)
Good news, the deadline passed a couple of days ago, and ace didn't trade Weird Dave to the Lakers.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 10, 2019 04:14 AM (sy5kK)

493 It was a line of Valkyries leading the Space Force into Battle.





Posted by: Slapweasel at February 10, 2019 04:12 AM (Ckg4U)

Those Valkyries in blue were Ones.
Because they were cool and had bewbs.
But mostly boobehs.



Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 10, 2019 04:15 AM (8iiMU)

494
For fans of Star Wars and Paris Protests:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1094303341302202368

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 04:18 AM (jYje5)

495 Morticia, they're Swedish. From the land of bending over backwards for Muz rapists comes stuff like this:

https://youtu.be/bRhg2zvalXc

Which is more 'Christian music' than 99% of actual Christian music.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 04:20 AM (zlI90)

496 Most metal today sucks balls. It's all about wailing about how your dad didn't love you. It's good to hear music that takes the position of "Let me tell you about this guy (or these guys), because he was AWESOME."

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 04:25 AM (7PLM4)

497
At some point in time the phrase 'war torn France' is going to have to be used. Check out this footage:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1094297537299841024

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 04:26 AM (jYje5)

498 Was trying to sleep some more but isn't going to happen so coffee is next option.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 04:27 AM (/rm4P)

499 Later on when looking for YouTube videos will give them a try

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 04:34 AM (/rm4P)

500
Skip - check out the one in #497, someone brought some serious fireworks to the show and aimed them right at the police vehicles. Unless you have trouble getting Twitter videos to play. They require JavaScript to be running.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 04:36 AM (jYje5)

501 Was trying to sleep some more but isn't going to happen so coffee is next option.
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 04:27 AM (/rm4P)

I am full of coffee and we finished testing the hydraulic bolt tensioning equipment so now I am at loose ends. Would you like to hear about medieval surgery?

I downloaded a .MOBI copy of the Surgery of Theodoric, who was a doctor for some Crusaders for a time. It's very interesting; his techniques for treating injuries are very sensible and effective-- Clean it, dry it, cover it and leave it the hell alone. He discusses suturing in some detail.

He's a bit more off the rails when it comes to internal medicine, as you might imagine. He says that things in the body have to be balanced, and the way to correct a problem in one part is to cause it to happen in another part. He also has his cart and horse backwards about pain-- he thinks it causes infection, instead of being a sign of the underlying infection itself.

So far, very interesting.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 04:40 AM (7PLM4)

502 Have to take apart a few threaded plumbing joints today, one is leaking and have to take it apart, figure a better line up and put them all together again.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 04:46 AM (/rm4P)

503
Here's the fireworks against the French police at YouTube. Unbelievable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFJW6mI6EBE

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 04:47 AM (jYje5)

504 489 488
Here is the uTube link:
https://tinyurl.com/y3pvt5co

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at February 10, 2019 04:08 AM (8iiMU)

Of the Trump float warrior thingy.

LMFAO

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 10, 2019 04:09 AM (8iiMU)

Thank you! How is that even possible?!

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 04:47 AM (gbepJ)

505
Good 15 minute compilation video from yesterdays French protests below at YouTube. Someone threw some homemade napalm at the cops, narrowly missing and setting the street on fire. Vehicle and street set on fire in front of Eiffel Tower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_WiyKdbXh4

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 04:51 AM (jYje5)

506 https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/02/
we_built_the_20062007_wall_over_100_miles_in_90_days.html

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 04:52 AM (/rm4P)

507 Morning, Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at February 10, 2019 04:59 AM (dCRRg)

508 Insomnia is not fun.

Any survivors from the novamome?

Posted by: Infidel at February 10, 2019 05:05 AM (9L2du)

509 >>> Insomnia is not fun.

We can have the thread to ourselves.

Posted by: fluffy at February 10, 2019 05:09 AM (dCRRg)

510 > Looks like Cortez is a one-term deal.

Don't piss off Pelosi.

> Insomnia is not fun.

Just here for a moment. Bladder strongly suggested I get up.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 10, 2019 05:12 AM (0OWcv)

511 We can have the thread to ourselves.
Posted by: fluffy at February 10, 2019 05:09 AM (dCRRg)

*slithers to next patch of concealment*

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 05:14 AM (7PLM4)

512 It appears that Infidel has thought better of our company.

Posted by: fluffy at February 10, 2019 05:16 AM (dCRRg)

513 We might want to suggest the best hangover remedy

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:19 AM (/rm4P)

514 Good Morning Morons

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 05:22 AM (mpXpK)

515 Oh, I'm still here. Was roaming. Agent was supposed to take pics of the house yesterday. Seems they haven't been posted yet.

Posted by: Infidel at February 10, 2019 05:22 AM (9L2du)

516 I wanted to make waffles, but no syrup in the house.

Posted by: Infidel at February 10, 2019 05:23 AM (9L2du)

517 Hi Vic

Posted by: fluffy at February 10, 2019 05:24 AM (dCRRg)

518 Morning Vic.

Posted by: Infidel at February 10, 2019 05:24 AM (9L2du)

519 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2019 05:25 AM (d1R3N)

520 Guess I could make some since I have brown sugar.

Posted by: Infidel at February 10, 2019 05:27 AM (9L2du)

521 Infidel- No problems inviting CBD over then.

Going to make ham, egg and cheese on bagel as soon as I get my cat off me.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:30 AM (/rm4P)

522
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 10, 2019 05:31 AM (KCxzN)

523 I often put fruit preserves on waffles

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:31 AM (/rm4P)

524

My wife puts 10X sugar on pancakes sometimes. Not me, it's real maple syrup or nothing.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 10, 2019 05:32 AM (jYje5)

525 Yum. Ham. I have some frozen, but I'm leaning toward thick peppered bacon.

Posted by: Infidel at February 10, 2019 05:32 AM (9L2du)

526 I love maple syrup, but not venturing out of the house at 3:30 am in 18 degree weather.

Posted by: Infidel at February 10, 2019 05:33 AM (9L2du)

527 505 Looks like a little more mayhem going on this weekend than last few.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:37 AM (/rm4P)

528 e might want to suggest the best hangover remedy
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:19 AM (/rm4P)

1000 ml normal saline, wide open. Some Gatorade wouldn't hurt either.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 05:38 AM (7PLM4)

529 Last Tradition website is saying Jessie Smollett is going to get charged for a false police report.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:40 AM (/rm4P)

530 529, heh. Couldn't happen to a nicer fag.

Posted by: Infidel at February 10, 2019 05:43 AM (9L2du)

531 6 am links are ready to go when we get the EMT. All but Ramirez, he hasn't posted today's toon yet. I found it on Go Comics but theirs is a small version. I'll wait for the original maybe tomorrow and post both.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 05:45 AM (mpXpK)

532 Last Tradition website is saying Jessie Smollett is going to get charged for a false police report.
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:40 AM (/rm4P)

You would think the Fake Hate Crime thing would start to seem less attractive after literally every one of them blows up in their faces.

Then again, they're emotionally incontinent children, so...

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 05:46 AM (7PLM4)

533 https://babalublog.com/2019/02/09/la-sandy-is-really-crazy/
I think she is saying the Conquistadors were here first so its theirs.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:47 AM (/rm4P)

534 My breakfast this morning was Jimmy Dean's Breakfast Bowl Steak and Eggs with 2 slides of French Bread toast.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 05:47 AM (mpXpK)

535 I can't trust shrinks of any stripe, they are too 'sensitive'. Now drill instructors you can depend on.

Posted by: Eromero at February 10, 2019 05:47 AM (zLDYs)

536 EMT? Except still haven't had breakfast feels like its the afternoon already

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:48 AM (/rm4P)

537 I'm alt-tabbing back and forth from Total War Attila.

Should I attack the Picts now, or wait until they push the Geats out of Gaul? I have trade deals with the Geats so attacking them makes me an asshole.

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 05:49 AM (7PLM4)

538 533 https://babalublog.com/2019/02/09/la-sandy-is-really-crazy/
I think she is saying the Conquistadors were here first so its theirs.
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 05:47 AM (/rm4P)

babalublog is so great

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 05:49 AM (gbepJ)

539 506 https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/02/
we_built_the_20062007_wall_over_100_miles_in_90_days.html
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2019 04:52 AM (/rm4P)

Thanks for that, Skip. I learned a few things from that I didn't know:

- Obama stopped construction of wall once in office
- That the reason existing are so short is so that climbers would not get hurt. SMH
- And that there is no limitation on the design authorized by 2006 law. More that just a "fence"

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 10, 2019 05:49 AM (GtG/j)

540 532 . . . the Fake Hate Crime thing . . .

literally every one of them blows up in their faces

Posted by: Vanya at February 10, 2019 05:46 AM (7PLM4)

I don't think we know that.

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 05:51 AM (gbepJ)

541 534 My breakfast this morning was Jimmy Dean's Breakfast Bowl Steak and Eggs with 2 slides of French Bread toast.
Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 05:47 AM (mpXpK)

That sounds perfect.

Posted by: m at February 10, 2019 05:52 AM (gbepJ)

542 EMT UP

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2019 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

543 The Quilette review of the APA's disgraceful yet wholly predictable tract against masculinity is a great read.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 10, 2019 07:06 AM (H8QX8)

544 "You would think the Fake Hate Crime thing would start to seem less attractive after literally every one of them blows up in their faces."

They don't care. If they move the needle even one inch every time they're wrong, they win.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 10, 2019 07:09 AM (H8QX8)

545 Secret Square, if you are still checking this:

Look at Philips Respironics products for CPAP. Both my Mom a nd my sister have used them. Mom for COPD and sister for apnea. You'll get them through medical equipment suppliers. They work through insurance. Some insurance companies require you to rent the machine, and some will allow you to buy outright.

They try to force you into renting, because so many people get the machine, use it a few times and then stop, because they can be hard to get used to. Uncomfortable, etc. Your mileage may vary.

Posted by: IntheBellyoftheBeast at February 10, 2019 09:25 AM (1Ipku)

546 Secret Square

I've been a CPAP User since 2004. I have severe obstructive sleep apnea. The device saved my life.

Email me:

Sixkiller

At

Moronhorde
Dot
Com

Posted by: Sixkiller at February 10, 2019 10:21 AM (POz6S)

547 96
"How would you handle an employee who refuses to attend company parties?"
-------
Late night abduction, forced screening of Michael Moore movies, followed by live burial somewhere out in the middle of the desert.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 09, 2019 10:33 PM (UGqF

Ahem..... I thought two to the back of the neck was traditional?

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at February 10, 2019 03:51 PM (bgJ0E)

548 Hello. And Bye.

Posted by: HowardLip at February 21, 2019 10:47 PM (kIUyy)

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