Venezuela Oil Production At Virtual Halt as Socialist Plan to Seize The Industry Results In Collapse

Maduro nationalized the oil industry, kicking out foreign operations who knew what they were doing and replacing them with Socialist goons who didn't. He put a lot of soldiers into position to oversee the operations, because he deemed them loyal.

But soldiers don't know anything about oil drilling either.

In a little-noted reversal of the Socialist government’s two-decade drive to nationalize the industry, the lack of expertise among military managers is leading PDVSA [the socialist bureaucracy now destroying the petroleum industry] to hire outsiders to keep afloat even basic operations, like drilling and pumping oil. To the dismay of many familiar with Venezuela's oil industry, some of the contracts are going to small, little-known firms with no experience in the sector.
Combined, industry veterans say, the steps leave Venezuela's most important company -- which accounts for over 90 percent of export revenue -- with even fewer means to rebuild the nation’s coffers, pay its many creditors and regain self-sufficiency as an oil producer.
"What we are witnessing is a policy of destroying the oil industry," said Jose Bodas, general secretary of the Oil Workers Federation, a national labor union. "The military officials don't listen to workers. They want to give orders, but they don't understand this complicated work."
Maduro defends the military managers, arguing they are more in synch with his Socialist worldview than capitalist industry professionals who exploit the country for personal profit. "I want a Socialist PDVSA," the president told allied legislators earlier this year. "An ethical, sovereign and productive PDVSA. We must break this model of the rentier oil company."
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Now, critics say, military officials atop PDVSA have put aside any pretense of running it like a proper business, doing little to stem the fall in production or improve the company's financial, operational and staffing problems.
No matter the dysfunction, PDVSA remains a rare and crucial source of foreign currency in the enfeebled Andean country. For Maduro, who became president after Chavez died in 2013, handing the company over to the military is seen by many as a calculated move to buy loyalty from officers.
"No one will be able to remove the military from PDVSA now," said Rafael Ramirez, a former oil minister. Ramirez ran the company for a decade under Chavez before clashing with Maduro, who accuses him and many other former executives of corruption. "PDVSA is a barrack."

This story won't be complete until Alexandra Ocasia-Cortez vomits ignorance all over herself.

Should be about ten minutes now.

Meanwhile, Russia has taken over five Venezuelan oil fields for the fire-sale price of $1.5 billion in bailout money.

In exchange for modest loans and bailouts over the past decade, Russia now owns significant parts of at least five oil fields in Venezuela, which holds the world's largest reserves, along with 30 years' worth of future output from two Caribbean natural-gas fields.

Venezuela also has signed over 49.9 percent of Citgo, its wholly owned company in the United States -- including three Gulf Coast refineries and a countrywide web of pipelines -- as collateral to Russia's state-owned Rosneft oil behemoth for a reported $1.5 billion in desperately needed cash.

Venezeula nationalized-socialized the oil industry to kick out foreign owners, and wound up selling a huge chuck of their oil fields to a foreign owner for a song.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:33 PM

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1 it rubs the oil on its' skin

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at December 26, 2018 04:30 PM (AZP2g)

2 Chocolate Rations are UP!

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 04:30 PM (XlSbW)

3 The Paolo. He knows all about the Deep Drilling.

Posted by: Paolo at December 26, 2018 04:30 PM (XlSbW)

4 The infrastructure didn't understand the beauties of Socialism!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 26, 2018 04:31 PM (37IEG)

5 Socialism is working great.....for Maduro and Putin

For the dopes who voted for it, not so much. But I guess there's not much sympathy due for them anyway

Posted by: Traddy at December 26, 2018 04:31 PM (GSJcT)

6 Dibs on the beaver cheese concession.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Tribune of the Hotties at December 26, 2018 04:31 PM (xJa6I)

7 5th!

Posted by: Traddy at December 26, 2018 04:32 PM (GSJcT)

8 I am first!

Posted by: Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed at December 26, 2018 04:32 PM (37IEG)

9 Quick, let's offer them asylum.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 04:32 PM (XlSbW)

10 Is there anything the central planners can't do?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:32 PM (c9I26)

11 Shocking!

Posted by: Peaches at December 26, 2018 04:32 PM (14URa)

12 We will suck their brains out, with a straw.
Sell the widows and
Go into South American Zinc.

Posted by: Hugo Chavez at December 26, 2018 04:33 PM (37IEG)

13 BTW, good AOC reference. The girl really is a dope but she's cute in a stupid kinda way

Posted by: Traddy at December 26, 2018 04:33 PM (GSJcT)

14 If only Obama were here to send them pallets of cash!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 26, 2018 04:33 PM (37IEG)

15 I would so like to swap the average liberal praising socialism for random Cuban or Venezuelan citizens for a few months. Mind I don't think the socialist denizens are better, but it might, just possibly edumacate the liberal idiot.

Posted by: paleRider at December 26, 2018 04:34 PM (eASYU)

16 How is this going to help the citizens get toilet paper?

Posted by: wth at December 26, 2018 04:34 PM (v0R5T)

17 Oil coffee silver gold. How do you screw that up?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:34 PM (c9I26)

18

BWAHAHAHAHAH!! *wheeze* BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 26, 2018 04:34 PM (HaL55)

19 I hate the ruskies...well not the vimen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2018 04:34 PM (Y+V3r)

20 BTW- Dow Jones up ONE THOUSAND POINTS TODAY

MAGA

Posted by: Traddy at December 26, 2018 04:34 PM (GSJcT)

21 The girl really is a dope but she's cute in a stupid kinda way

Posted by: Traddy at December 26, 2018 04:33 PM (GSJcT)
You have tragically low standards. Please go look at some pics of Melania and get your head right.

Posted by: Peaches at December 26, 2018 04:35 PM (14URa)

22 *points and laughs*

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2018 04:35 PM (xjiRE)

23 Clearly Sean Penn has failed me, you must not.

Posted by: Nicholas Maduro at December 26, 2018 04:35 PM (37IEG)

24 The left can only destroy.

Posted by: Chris M at December 26, 2018 04:35 PM (eAZVt)

25 Santa rally.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:35 PM (c9I26)

26 Oil coffee silver gold. How do you screw that up?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:34 PM (c9I26)

And baseball players

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2018 04:35 PM (Y+V3r)

27

All commies: It's not REAL socialism!!1!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 26, 2018 04:35 PM (SiINZ)

28 Venezeula nationalized-socialized the oil industry to kick out foreign owners, and wound up selling a huge chuck of their oil fields to a foreign owner for a song.

Dick status: Stepped on

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2018 04:36 PM (NLLmE)

29 Maybe Danny Glover can send them his residual checks from Pulp Fiction?

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 04:36 PM (XlSbW)

30 Is Russia the good guy or the bad guy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 26, 2018 04:36 PM (aKsyK)

31 Venezuela, soon to be a wholely owned country of China

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 04:36 PM (bQtop)

32 Venezeula nationalized-socialized the oil industry to kick out foreign owners, and wound up selling a huge chuck of their oil fields to a foreign owner for a song.

Well then all they have to do is re-nationalize it a second time and kick the russians out.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2018 04:37 PM (Y+V3r)

33 I'm not stupid. I know they have drill sergeants working in those oil fields!

Posted by: Occasional Cortex at December 26, 2018 04:37 PM (AZP2g)

34 China will offer loans and experts like they did with Ecuador.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at December 26, 2018 04:37 PM (FKi9J)

35 Well, this should be interesting.

Madero selling off stuff to a country that won't hesitate to use force to make sure agreements are not reneged on.

Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 26, 2018 04:37 PM (WEBkv)

36 Venezuela has very low quality oil that requires western expertise to refine.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:37 PM (c9I26)

37 Russia is drinking Maduro's milkshake.

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2018 04:38 PM (NLLmE)

38 31
Venezuela, soon to be a wholely owned country of China

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 04:36 PM (bQtop)
Yup.

Posted by: Peaches at December 26, 2018 04:38 PM (14URa)

39 2 words.
Beaver Cheese Futures.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 26, 2018 04:38 PM (LL1Be)

40 "Russia now owns significant parts of at least five oil fields in Venezuela"
.............

Must be part of some evil plan to get Trump re-elected.

Posted by: wth at December 26, 2018 04:38 PM (v0R5T)

41 Venezeula nationalized-socialized the oil industry to kick out foreign owners, and wound up selling a huge chuck of their oil fields to a foreign owner for a song.

Sure ... but it was pure profit. It's like the guy who steals a 5 carat flawless diamond and sells it to a fence for $3,500.

And even better than that, when the Venezuelans need more money they'll just threaten the Russians with taking it back, again, anyway.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:38 PM (VnmhN)

42 Nice country you had there, be terrible is something russian happened to it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 26, 2018 04:38 PM (r+sAi)

43 Quit buying gas from Citgo stations at least 10 years ago, maybe more; the news that they are now half owned by Russians is not going to change that one bit.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 26, 2018 04:38 PM (mfOi4)

44 Is Russia the good guy or the bad guy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 26, 2018 04:36 PM (aKsyK)

In this instance, just a guy.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (VnmhN)

45 Russia's taking over 5 Venezuelan oil fields?

Is the Monroe Doctrine still a thing? Or did Obama repeal it by EO?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (NFEMn)

46 I read/skimmed most of the Reuter's article.
Brief mention of "socialist" leadership in the context of various comments on "corruption" poor training and personalities.
Another example of burying the lede.
Either that or it's Trump's fault.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (koNhm)

47 I read a report the other day that Venezuela's inflation rate for 2019 is predicted to be 1.4 million percent. My little brain can't get itself around that number.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (hjaPQ)

48 Poetry, ace, that line about Occasional Cortex.

Weird geeky question about collateralizing CITGO to the Russkis. Since it's under 50.1%, does that skirt the possible issues with that inter-agency guvamint board (forget the acronym) that passes on foreign direct investment in sensitive areas/by furriners of concern?

Must be the reason for that figure of 49.9%, I'm figuring.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (QDnY+)

49 The largest oil reserves in the world and they don't have enough money to buy toilet paper or food.

Socialism is the dumbest economic system ever created, and only tyrannical murder of those who disagree with the governments pushing this scam can persuade its victims to support it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a peaceful Christmas to all at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (Z216Q)

50

I'm not stupid. I know they have drill sergeants working in those oil fields!

Posted by: Occasional Cortex at December 26, 2018 04:37 PM (AZP2g)

Thread Winner already! That was quick.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (HaL55)

51 Socialists.

Lime pits.

Some assembly required.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (iFGRa)

52 33 I'm not stupid. I know they have drill sergeants working in those oil fields!
Posted by: Occasional Cortex at December 26, 2018 04:37 PM (AZP2g)
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Ocasio, is that really you?

Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (WEBkv)

53 Wise men say only fools Russian....

Posted by: JoeF. at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (NFEMn)

54 You got to love socialism, you can have a thriving business and drive it into a hole big enough to swallow the country.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (/rm4P)

55 And even better than that, when the Venezuelans need more money they'll just threaten the Russians with taking it back, again, anyway.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:38 PM (VnmhN)

And Russian will curb stomp them.

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2018 04:40 PM (NLLmE)

56 Charmin air drops. TP airlift.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:40 PM (c9I26)

57 Oil production cannot be turned off and then back on. Russia got a bargain, but maybe not as good as it could be.

Especially since Russkies are not that good at oil production.

Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2018 04:40 PM (BBhgz)

58 They always act so surprised when shit goes kaput.

Posted by: dananjcon at December 26, 2018 04:40 PM (xqfqx)

59 >>>This story won't be complete until Alexandra Ocasia-Cortez vomits ignorance all over herself.

Please. Socialists always avoid embarrassing stories about socialism. Even an idiot like Occasional-Cortex understands that.

People would have to bring this up to her. And if they do, she'll accuse them of sexual harassment and wolf-whistling. She won't address it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 26, 2018 04:41 PM (/qEW2)

60 And even better than that, when the Venezuelans need more money they'll
just threaten the Russians with taking it back, again, anyway.

Ummm...we say nyet! - Russian Military

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 26, 2018 04:41 PM (r+sAi)

61 The largest oil reserves in the world and they don't have enough money to buy toilet paper or food.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a peaceful Christmas to all at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (Z216Q)

To be fair, toilet paper was never a big thing in South America.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:41 PM (VnmhN)

62 Russia got the oil fields for a song because Venezuela screwed up the pressurization in their fields big time. The oil is there, but a lot more expensive to extract now.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 26, 2018 04:41 PM (ffYR/)

63 whenever the venezuelan government finally collapses in a torrent of blood, the new government will nationalize the oil fields again. sowwy moscow.

Posted by: deepelemblues at December 26, 2018 04:41 PM (ryr6F)

64 Maduro nationalized the oil industry, kicking out foreign operations who knew what they were doing and replacing them with Socialist goons who didn't. He put a lot of soldiers into position to oversee the operations

Reminds me of Marx's puerile assertion that under Communism a man could be a farmer in the morning, a physician in the afternoon, etc., as the spirit moved him.

Uh, no, Karl, unless the guy wants to be a ditch digger, he needs to develop some expertise to perform any but the most menial tasks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2018 04:41 PM (HOIfB)

65 Interesting vignette about socialism from a few years ago. Some paper had an article about their failing medical system with a hospital where the elevators were just empty shafts - full of flies because they collected water AND folks tossed trash in them.

Now the staff, patients and relatives of patients could not buy and install elevators themselves but a people w/o a lazy ass socialist mindset would probably refrain from tossing trash in there and maybe would even organize to keep siphoning, then mopping out the water to keep the insect breeding as low as possible. But socialists, no reward for effort so everyone does the laziest thing, including tossing trash down elevator shaft.

Posted by: paleRider at December 26, 2018 04:42 PM (eASYU)

66 Actually running out of other people's money isn't the problem with socialism.

It's after that when you have to start shooting some of the other people to keep them in line.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 26, 2018 04:42 PM (koNhm)

67 49 The largest oil reserves in the world and they don't have enough money to buy toilet paper or food.

Philippine Islands have like the second or third largest gold reserves in the world.

Posted by: Occasional Cortex at December 26, 2018 04:42 PM (AZP2g)

68 The Venezuelan Marines can't figure out how to seed the oil fields.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:42 PM (c9I26)

69 and what exactly would russia do, they dont have the power projection capability to tell the US to eff off while we shit all over the monroe doctrine

Posted by: deepelemblues at December 26, 2018 04:42 PM (ryr6F)

70 CFIUS (pronounced "SIFF-ee-us"), that's it. Sounds like a Roman name, general or something - "CFIUS Africanus then led his legions to complete the defeat of the Carthaginian remnants".

Our best friend Iran has also been mucking around in V'zuela since the Maduro years. Would imagine they've poked around in the oil patch down there, too.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 26, 2018 04:42 PM (QDnY+)

71 meet the new boss, same as the old boss... just dumber.

Posted by: x at December 26, 2018 04:43 PM (nFwvY)

72 Russia is drinking Maduro's milkshake.

Posted by: eleven

And Maduro is drinking his own Kool-Aid.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 26, 2018 04:43 PM (iFGRa)

73

Hehe, hehe... I'll drill some beaver... hehe, hehe... oh look, it's a gusher...

Posted by: Ken Shabby at December 26, 2018 04:43 PM (vDDpQ)

74 To be fair, toilet paper was never a big thing in South America.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:41 PM (VnmhN)
...........

See? Somebody gets it.

Posted by: Sheryl "Dingleberries" Crow at December 26, 2018 04:43 PM (v0R5T)

75 Didn't Venezuela send fuel oil to the east coast as a propaganda bit before we started actually drilling for oil?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 04:44 PM (bQtop)

76 Venezeula nationalized-socialized the oil industry to kick out foreign owners, and wound up selling a huge chuck of their oil fields to a foreign owner for a song.

Unexpe

Oh hell. Who didn't expect this?!?

Posted by: Adriane the War is Bad, Slavery is Worse Critic ... at December 26, 2018 04:44 PM (LPnfS)

77 Omg it took me longer than it should have to get the drill sergeants joke. *hangs head*

The largest oil reserves in the world and they don't have enough money to buy toilet paper or food.

Socialism is the dumbest economic system ever created, and only tyrannical murder of those who disagree with the governments pushing this scam can persuade its victims to support it.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a peaceful Christmas to all at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (Z216Q)

As others have noted, Venezuela's climate and soil is such that you grow food by randomly dropping seeds on the ground but the government managed to screw that up too. And it's not like the average person is allowed to set up their own garden, no, no, no.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 26, 2018 04:44 PM (GbPPJ)

78 Yes. That Kenneddy traitor was involved.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:45 PM (c9I26)

79 75
Didn't Venezuela send fuel oil to the east coast as a propaganda bit before we started actually drilling for oil?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 04:44 PM (bQtop)
Chavez did that.

Posted by: Peaches at December 26, 2018 04:45 PM (14URa)

80 Didn't Venezuela send fuel oil to the east coast as a propaganda bit before we started actually drilling for oil?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 04:44 PM (bQtop)

Yeah ... when they had that wheezing, America-hating Kennedy spawn fronting for them. That guy sounded like he was going to keel over dead any minute. It was so disappointing to hear him straining to get a few words out and then walk away alive at the end.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:45 PM (VnmhN)

81 *This story won't be complete until Alexandra Ocasia-Cortez vomits ignorance all over herself.*

She is the One we have been waiting for, to do Socialism correctly.

Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2018 04:46 PM (BBhgz)

82 Many bungholes and no TP.

Posted by: Beavis at December 26, 2018 04:46 PM (c9I26)

83 Venezuela, the Bamboo Lounge of the oil industry.

Posted by: dananjcon at December 26, 2018 04:46 PM (xqfqx)

84 Would be a damn shame if them oil fields plum blew up?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2018 04:46 PM (Y+V3r)

85 They need to hire a triumphirate of AO-C, Bernie, and Faucahontas to run it for them. Then the right people would be in charge, so it would HAVE to work.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 26, 2018 04:46 PM (VaN/j)

86 That RUSSIAN stooge Trump put sanctions on Venezuela to destroy their prosperous economy and veritable paradise of freedom so that it would fall into debt and disarray and be forced to sell it's oil reserves to Trump's eevil RUSSIAN Masters for practically nothing! IMPEACH!!1!1

Posted by: Tomorrow's MSM Narrative at December 26, 2018 04:47 PM (k6F4I)

87 So overextending himself into Syria and potentially getting his forces wiped out wasn't enough? Now Putin wants to push into Venezuela?

I too love gambling, but I really hate getting wiped out.

Posted by: trev006 at December 26, 2018 04:47 PM (/3Czh)

88 "Yeah ... when they had that wheezing, America-hating Kennedy spawn fronting for them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:45 PM (VnmhN) "

Which one? That doesn't really narrow it down. The one with the birth defects or the one with the waitress sandwiches or....

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 26, 2018 04:47 PM (oZ6kz)

89 Ignoring the fact that the fccking Soviets are in my backyard, this is funnier than an episode of the three atooges

Posted by: BifBewalski -sofa king we Todd did at December 26, 2018 04:47 PM (8ZeGS)

90 I had a good friend from Venezuela back in the nineties. She was way more interested in me then I with her. But we did get along well together. I knew she came from a wealthy family and pretty sure she wasn't socialist bent.

I've often wondered what happened to her and her family.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at December 26, 2018 04:48 PM (nJ2If)

91 Is there anything the central planners can't do?

I have a story that I don't think is OT, even though it's not about oil or Venezuela. It is about how commies can ruin the best of things.

Right after the breakup of the USSR I spent a lot of time running around Belarus talking to companies. One of them was the state-owned monopoly cigrarette maker.

Now all the newly independent countries were pretending to be countries so they all printed new currency and pretended it was money. Of course, no one else counted it as money so everything devolved into a barter system.

And barter works surprisingly well. People still showed up to work and made things and traded them with other CIS states and stuff hobbled along. I was and am baffled by this.

Anyway, because tobacco is a plant the company was under the Ministry of Agriculture, Minzelhozprod. And Minzelhozprod made a rule that you couldn't barter more than 10% of your output. Which maybe makes sense if you're talking about carrots so that the country doesn't run out of carrots. But Belarus does not grow tobacco.

Moldova grows tobacco. So, under the rules our guys could roll up a bunch of tobacco in paper and put a filter on it (which is not a high value-add) and then use 10% of that output to barter for more tobacco. And then of the much less tobacco they got they could roll it up again and barter 10% of that.

When I met them a company of 2,000 employees was working at 2% capacity.

Cigarettes are a perfect product. Cheap, subject to brand loyalty, and addictive. Communism managed to F that up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 26, 2018 04:48 PM (fuK7c)

92 Venezeula nationalized-socialized the oil industry to kick out foreign owners, and wound up selling a huge chuck of their oil fields to a foreign owner for a song.
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Socialist are notoriously poor at assessing risk. As a rule, they bury their mistakes by dent of force. Sooner or later reality asserts itself. Too late, of course, for the people who suffer misery and death.

The great irony, of course, is that it was the people themselves who ceded their freedom to the totalitarians. Free ice cream and cake!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 26, 2018 04:48 PM (xSo9G)

93 Socialism is the dumbest economic system ever created
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a peaceful Christmas to all at December 26, 2018 04:39 PM (Z216Q)

Here's my plan for eradicating support for socialism.

I'd ask all the students in a lecture theater to raise their hands if they support socialism. To all those who do I'd assign a group project, with everyone in the group to get the same grade.

I'd keep doing that until no one raised his hand. I figure a couple of iterations should do it, because anyone who has anything about him at all HATES group projects. Only the complete losers like them, because they figure they'll be carried by the others. After a few iterations, each project team will comprise ONLY losers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2018 04:48 PM (1GThF)

94 "She is the One we have been waiting for, to do Socialism correctly.

Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2018 04:46 PM (BBhgz) "

You were the chosen one!! You were supposed to seize the means of production, not destroy them!!!

Posted by: Bernie Sanders, holding back tears as AOC melts away in a lava pool at December 26, 2018 04:49 PM (oZ6kz)

95

Friedrich Engels and I - the first modern gay power couple you know - are so proud of our child, Scientific Socialism, and look forward to it growing up, choosing it's own gender identity and preferred pronouns, while smashing the cis hetero white patriarchy of running dog Capitalism and liberating rectums everywhere to breath in the springtime of BBC!

Posted by: Karl Marx at December 26, 2018 04:49 PM (vDDpQ)

96 Which one? That doesn't really narrow it down. The one with the birth defects or the one with the waitress sandwiches or....

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at December 26, 2018 04:47 PM (oZ6kz)

The wheezing one. He had the most annoying voice (if you could even call it that) in the world. It was truly fvcked up. Fox used to have him on all the time, for some asinine reason.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:49 PM (VnmhN)

97 I'm not worried about the Russiians - in fact it's rather amusing. They're buying into a business which is in total collapse and which for employees now has nothing left but thugs and gang bangers. Oh, that's a hell of an investment! The Chinese were already there, the reason you don't hear about them in Venezuela anymore is that they figured out that they'd pumped about $20 billion in and had absolutely nothing to show for it.

Venezuela is a pit, If you want to visualize the oil industry there today think of a 1977 Chevy Truck that was nice once but which has been driven hard every day and has not had one single piece of maintenance done on it for 15 years. It's not just that it's breaking down, it's that every single mechanical part of every single piece of equipment in the entire country is either broken or is within months of breaking.

It has gone down too far to save, no matter how much money is pumped it. The only possible path to restoration is to scrap everything and rebuild it all from scratch, which would take tens of billions of dollars and a decade or two. That's what the Russian's are buying into.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2018 04:49 PM (k1TUh)

98 I've often wondered what happened to her and her family.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at December 26, 2018 04:48 PM (nJ2If)

You can be damn sure they are living in the USA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2018 04:50 PM (Y+V3r)

99 But at least NOW, the "right" people are finally in charge of a pure Socialist State!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 26, 2018 04:50 PM (f3oO4)

100 67 49 The largest oil reserves in the world and they don't have enough money to buy toilet paper or food.

Philippine Islands have like the second or third largest gold reserves in the world.
Posted by: Occasional Cortex at December 26, 2018 04:42 PM (AZP2g)

Giant gold Buddhas stuffed with diamonds.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 26, 2018 04:50 PM (1g7ch)

101 What will Russia do with that high sulfur crude? We are one of the only countries in the world that can refine it.

Posted by: clutch at December 26, 2018 04:52 PM (kiSdp)

102 Wow, that Karl Marx sure was a fucking moron.

Posted by: Chris M at December 26, 2018 04:52 PM (eAZVt)

103 The Commiecrats up here are taking notes....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 26, 2018 04:52 PM (ujg0T)

104 I was enjoying a lunch among my FI and his friends and associates and one of the guy's (probably 90 or so) dad had made a bunch of money developing oil fields in Venezuela in the 20's.

There are a boatload of people in Houston that had great careers there. A WWII veteran whose eulogy I gave at our national cemetery had changed careers in his 50's and became the premiere 'Little Bird' restorer in Houston for 40 years. He had wealthy Venezuelan customers that had sent their two seat T-Birds to him for complete restorations, one of them twice.

Amazing to witness a very wealthy country in our hemisphere burn through their future in less than a generation. I think some guy we all remember reminded us of that consequence.

Posted by: DanMan at December 26, 2018 04:53 PM (XTiHL)

105 Venezuela is a pit, If you want to visualize the oil industry there today think of a 1977 Chevy Truck that was nice once but which has been driven hard every day and has not had one single piece of maintenance done on it for 15 years. It's not just that it's breaking down, it's that every single mechanical part of every single piece of equipment in the entire country is either broken or is within months of breaking.

That's an excellent metaphor . . .

for Philadelphia in the Current Year as well

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 26, 2018 04:53 PM (Rarvo)

106 FIL father in law

Posted by: DanMan at December 26, 2018 04:53 PM (XTiHL)

107 I bet the super hot women in Venezuela are all leaving, if your reading this my number is in the book

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 04:53 PM (bQtop)

108 My understanding is that the Venezuelan military makes a mean empanada.

Posted by: Fritz at December 26, 2018 04:53 PM (Z9C5C)

109 He put a lot of soldiers [Socialist goons who didn't know what they were doing] into position to oversee the operations, because he deemed them loyal.
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"We don't see the problem here." -- St. James Comey and the rest of the Deep State Stooges

Posted by: Shains -- Oppression Olympics non-medalist at December 26, 2018 04:53 PM (7PV5I)

110 Fracking's looking pretty good, now.

Posted by: m at December 26, 2018 04:54 PM (1cK+7)

111 Who smells of sulfur now, bitch?

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 26, 2018 04:54 PM (zncB8)

112 What will Russia do with that high sulfur crude? We are one of the only countries in the world that can refine it.

Posted by: clutch at December 26, 2018 04:52 PM (kiSdp)

They'll sell it to Africans. I'd bet they can convince the ANC in South Africa to buy shitloads of the stuff. It's oil. What more do they need to know about it?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:54 PM (VnmhN)

113 I had a relative who used to say "So-and-so couldn't sell pussy on a troop train."

He must have had Maduro in mind.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 26, 2018 04:54 PM (hjaPQ)

114 Venezuela, the Bamboo Lounge of the oil industry.
Posted by: dananjcon at December 26, 2018 04:46 PM (xqfqx)

Are you familiar with a particular Bamboo lounge or is that just a euphemism for a dive?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at December 26, 2018 04:54 PM (FKi9J)

115 Watch the Death of Stalin and they get the tone so right by showing how terrified everyone is and being so damn funny in doing so.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 26, 2018 04:54 PM (dKiJG)

116 Especially since Russkies are not that good at oil production.

Who says that Russkies have to be good at oil production?

What stops them from contracting out to those who are?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 26, 2018 04:55 PM (lD3vL)

117 Socialist Plan to Seize The Industry Results In Collapse

There don't seem to be any lessons to be drawn here.

Posted by: The GOPe at December 26, 2018 04:55 PM (CE5C/)

118 Amazing to witness a very wealthy country in our hemisphere burn through their future in less than a generation. I think some guy we all remember reminded us of that consequence.
Posted by: DanMan
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Detroit - The wealthiest city in America in 1960.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 26, 2018 04:55 PM (xSo9G)

119 You know what Venezuela needs? A couple thousand Honduran tortilla vendors.

Posted by: wth at December 26, 2018 04:55 PM (v0R5T)

120 all you really need to know about socialism is that Engels died a millionaire and left his loot to Marx's daughters. everything else is for chumps.

Posted by: x at December 26, 2018 04:56 PM (nFwvY)

121
"They want to give orders, but they don't understand this complicated work."

Democrats, please take note.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2018 04:56 PM (LsBY9)

122 Are you familiar with a particular Bamboo lounge or is that just a euphemism for a dive?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at December 26, 2018 04:54 PM (FKi9J)**
I always thought it was just fictional place in the movie.

Posted by: dananjcon at December 26, 2018 04:56 PM (xqfqx)

123 I missed my chance to say I am pursuing nuclear weapons and get a huge pallet of cash. Foiled again!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 26, 2018 04:56 PM (r+sAi)

124 Maduro has paved the way for a truly prosperous, fair and egalitarian oil industry in Venezuela!

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at December 26, 2018 04:56 PM (NWiLs)

125 "I want a Socialist PDVSA,"

Can do...

Posted by: China at December 26, 2018 04:56 PM (CE5C/)

126 Why can't the Venezuelan soldiers simply look up "how oil factories work" on wikipedia?

Posted by: Jimmy Wales at December 26, 2018 04:56 PM (/qEW2)

127 In Venezuela, Russia drills you.

Posted by: Anonymous Gerbil at December 26, 2018 04:56 PM (NsehE)

128 Can we send all of our extra Guatemalans down to help?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (c9I26)

129 Are you familiar with a particular Bamboo lounge or is that just a euphemism for a dive?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation
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Yes. In both cases. In Savannah Georgia, the dive that spawned Billy Joe Royal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (xSo9G)

130 Who says that Russkies have to be good at oil production?

What stops them from contracting out to those who are?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 26, 2018 04:55 PM (lD3vL)

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Companies that are good at oil production have probably already been screwed by Venezuela, and will not go back there to work.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (ffYR/)

131 I bet the super hot women in Venezuela are all leaving, if your reading this my number is in the book

You want a bunch of VD ridden women with several unruly children in tow?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (lD3vL)

132 They'll sell it to Africans. I'd bet they can convince the ANC in South Africa to buy shitloads of the stuff. It's oil. What more do they need to know about it?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 04:54 PM (VnmhN)

SA still has SASOL iirc.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (FKi9J)

133 My reading Karl Marx was a soap box barker but suckered millions to follow him, and millions died in the process.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (/rm4P)

134 Oil refining for dummies.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (c9I26)

135 "But socialists, no reward for effort so everyone does the laziest thing, including tossing trash down elevator shaft."
Probably organizing to do something would rate you a visit from the state security services.
On the other hand, if someone important complained, they'd send in the soldiers to threaten everyone and get the job done.
You just have to know the right people.

Posted by: PG at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (Yox9g)

136 You can be damn sure they are living in the USA
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2018 04:50 PM (Y+V3r)

Probably. She was an IT analyst too at large worldwide IT consulting company now defunct. I got lots of nice presents from her for years after I left the company.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (nJ2If)

137 Let's see, from each according to their abilities... and they have no abilities...carry the one...yep, it all adds up.

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2018 04:58 PM (CE5C/)

138
Venezuela has no problem of too many types of deodorant.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2018 04:58 PM (LsBY9)

139 33 I'm not stupid. I know they have drill sergeants working in those oil fields!
Posted by: Occasional Cortex at December 26, 2018 04:37 PM (AZP2g)

Wow.

Posted by: m at December 26, 2018 04:59 PM (1cK+7)

140

The Russkies don't give a shit about the oil. They now have a hot water base on the Atlantic side of the Panama canal on mainland South America.

Re-establish a deep water port on the Pacific side of Nicauragua and Bob's your uncle.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 26, 2018 04:59 PM (Z1kQb)

141 Yes. In both cases. In Savannah Georgia, the dive that spawned Billy Joe Royal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (xSo9G)

I asked because my father was once a bouncer at ' The Bamboo Club' in a town in Louisiana.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at December 26, 2018 04:59 PM (FKi9J)

142 Their first mistake was hiring those Underwear Gnomes on as a Consulting Service.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 04:59 PM (XlSbW)

143 Columbia ihas gone from cocaine king to a shelter for Venezuela i

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 05:00 PM (bQtop)

144
I have been told that Venezuela's collapse was engineered by the US because we could not tolerate a successful socialist nation.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2018 05:00 PM (LsBY9)

145 Michael Kennedy ran the Venezuelan front "non-profit" Citizens Energy.

When he skied into a tree for the last time his brother Joe found out that he was making $600,000 and suddenly became enamored of the non-profit business.

The wheezing Kennedy is RFK Jr. who has some weird disease.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 26, 2018 05:00 PM (fuK7c)

146 Socialism and communism are just methods of advertising and branding to sell third worlders or soon to be third worlders like the Western Left on the dubious benefits of Russian or Chinese mercantilism.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at December 26, 2018 05:00 PM (Clxcy)

147 Maduro has paved the way for a truly prosperous, fair and egalitarian oil industry in Venezuela!
Posted by: Bernie Sanders
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A giant among men.

Posted by: Sean Penn, Michael Moore at December 26, 2018 05:01 PM (CDGwz)

148 But socialists, no reward for effort so everyone does the laziest thing, including tossing trash down elevator shaft.

It's not just that there is no reward; socialist systems take all responsibility away from individuals.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 05:01 PM (VnmhN)

149 Which is why I don't believe that the Russians are post-communist. They still believe in communism when it helps them fuck over other people, like the Venezuelans.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had A B-Wing, And Called It Brad at December 26, 2018 05:02 PM (Clxcy)

150 Why can't the Venezuelan soldiers simply look up "how oil factories work" on wikipedia?

They did and have realized it's unsustainable. They''re pushing for high-speed rail.

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2018 05:02 PM (98WNR)

151 Look up the story of the Chinese built dam in Ecuador.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at December 26, 2018 05:02 PM (FKi9J)

152 Something tells me America will have to give real socialism a try despite all the bad examples. Because millenials think it's chic.

It's just unfortunate that a country rarely can go back after seeing what a failure it is.

Posted by: Blago at December 26, 2018 05:03 PM (UfkIY)

153 Giant gold Buddhas stuffed with diamonds.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 26, 2018 04:50 PM (1g7ch)
..........

and lumpia. Lots and lots of lumpia.

Posted by: wth at December 26, 2018 05:03 PM (v0R5T)

154 It's actually very smart of Maduro to do this so that the oil refineries won't be killing the rain forest and warming the globe with their Dihydrogen Monoxide emissions.

Posted by: Alexandra Fiasco-Cortex at December 26, 2018 05:03 PM (k6F4I)

155 In socialist countries. Their cars run on hope. Hope that you have enough money for them to take.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 26, 2018 05:03 PM (nAeGR)

156 Detroit - The wealthiest city in America in 1960.

preach it brother, that one really hits close to home for me. As a kid in the 60s I had Detroit pegged as my Mecca.

Posted by: DanMan at December 26, 2018 05:03 PM (XTiHL)

157 To be fair, you can't be overly critical of Alexandra Ocasia-Cortez. After all, the smartest person she knows is Bernie Sanders.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2018 05:04 PM (Mouru)

158 Jerry Brown grants pardons to immigrants facing deportation due to criminal history

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/316850/

Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2018 05:04 PM (BXMxN)

159 preach it brother, that one really hits close to home for me. As a kid in the 60s I had Detroit pegged as my Mecca.

Posted by: DanMan at December 26, 2018 05:03 PM (XTiHL)

Now, Detroit IS Mecca ... well, Dearborn. Close enough.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 05:05 PM (VnmhN)

160 So I'm watching modern marvels, penis injections are going on

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 05:05 PM (bQtop)

161 120 all you really need to know about socialism is that Engels died a millionaire and left his loot to Marx's daughters. everything else is for chumps.
Posted by: x at December 26, 2018 04:56 PM (nFwvY)

I'm just finishing a German reader, published in the USSR, on the lives of Marx and Engels. They were brilliant, everyone loved them, birds recognized their goodness and landed on their shoulders, the whole bit.

The funny part is that Marx's family lived in crushing poverty while he was jerking off politically, until at some juncture he went to work for the NY Tribune, at which point the family's fortunes took an upturn. But apart from that time, even this hagiography admits that Marx mooched off of Engels (who in turn mooched off the exploited works, per Marx) and off of all the comrades around Marx who had any money at all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2018 05:05 PM (1GThF)

162 Mind if I check your pants for an Academy Award, Johnnie?

Posted by: Kevin Spacey at December 26, 2018 05:05 PM (98WNR)

163 and lumpia. Lots and lots of lumpia.

You speak truth white man. Problem is, the wrappers are getting soggy and soon all the decaying veggies and meat fragments will come rolling out of the Buddah's... belly button?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 26, 2018 05:05 PM (Z1kQb)

164 Jerry Brown grants pardons to immigrants facing deportation due to criminal history

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/316850/
Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2018 05:04 PM (BXMxN)

Making California a better place to live, one immigrant alien criminal at a time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2018 05:06 PM (Mouru)

165 Hadrian
Thank you so much for the music drive, it came Christmas Eve and really brightened my day

Posted by: Lord Percy's Cracked Chamber Pot at December 26, 2018 05:06 PM (DHbXo)

166 Jerry Brown grants pardons to immigrants facing deportation due to criminal history

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/316850/

Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2018 05:04 PM (BXMxN)

I thought Cali started doing that years ago, pardoning any state crimes to get the poor, widdle illegals off the immediate deportation list.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 05:06 PM (VnmhN)

167 Has anyone ever wondered if socialism was a giant elaborate fraud to return to something like feudalism?

It would explain why so many very wealthy people support it. Then the low IQ dregs of society are talked into believing that they will benefit from it.

But the very rich are in on it all along.

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2018 05:07 PM (xjiRE)

168 rfk jr. has hoof and mouth disease. no good commie fuck.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2018 05:07 PM (KP5rU)

169 But socialists, no reward for effort so everyone does the laziest thing

Hence my comment above re group projects.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2018 05:07 PM (1GThF)

170 Have another empanada, Senor Maduro!

Posted by: Alexis Oxy Corpuscle at December 26, 2018 05:07 PM (v0R5T)

171 164 Jerry Brown grants pardons to immigrants facing deportation due to criminal history

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/316850/
Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2018 05:04 PM (BXMxN)

Making California a better place to live, one immigrant alien criminal at a time.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 26, 2018 05:06 PM (Mouru)

Meanwhile, California now officially has the worst educational results in the U.S.

Now there's a coinky dink.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2018 05:08 PM (1GThF)

172 160
So I'm watching modern marvels, penis injections are going on

this sounds like a job for dr. pimple popper

Posted by: Anachronda at December 26, 2018 05:08 PM (2//jc)

173 But remember. Vote Bernie Sanders because Socialism: They're just doing it wrong.

Posted by: Sponge at December 26, 2018 05:08 PM (Zz0t1)

174 Jerry Brown grants pardons to immigrants facing deportation due to criminal history

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/316850/
Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2018 05:04 PM (BXMxN)

How is this news? He's already done this quite a bit with other illegal aliens.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 26, 2018 05:08 PM (k6F4I)

175 Who says that Russkies have to be good at oil production?

What stops them from contracting out to those who are?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 26, 2018 04:55 PM (lD3vL)

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Companies that are good at oil production have probably already been screwed by Venezuela, and will not go back there to work.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 26, 2018 04:57 PM (ffYR/)

Screwed by Venezuela at least 2x. And when the socialists sell out to the commies, it's all good.

Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2018 05:09 PM (BBhgz)

176 on the lives of Marx and Engels. They were brilliant, everyone loved them, birds recognized their goodness and landed on their shoulders, the whole bit.

Huh, just like Obama and Hillary. This socialism is powerful stuff.

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2018 05:09 PM (nIvDu)

177 But Californias new Governor is cute, that's important

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 05:10 PM (bQtop)

178 But remember. True happiness is found when there's high taxation and government control.

Posted by: Sponge at December 26, 2018 05:10 PM (Zz0t1)

179 Has anyone ever wondered if socialism was a giant elaborate fraud to return to something like feudalism?

It would explain why so many very wealthy people support it. Then the low IQ dregs of society are talked into believing that they will benefit from it.

But the very rich are in on it all along.
Posted by: rickl

___________

there's some term called like the "drawbridge" effect where once they make their money, they almost want to make commerce for other people as difficult as possible.

I do think one big reason rich people have become so left wing is crushing taxes rarely touch their wealth. So they can indulge all they want in Leftism

Posted by: Blago at December 26, 2018 05:10 PM (UfkIY)

180

If you give me all your money I will settle once and for all if Socialism works by redistributing it appropriately!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 26, 2018 05:10 PM (Z1kQb)

181 whenever i need third world shithole wisdom, i always seek out ex bartenders from some fucked up kollige.they smart and shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2018 05:11 PM (KP5rU)

182 Has anyone ever wondered if socialism was a giant elaborate fraud to return to something like feudalism?

It would explain why so many very wealthy people support it. Then the low IQ dregs of society are talked into believing that they will benefit from it.

But the very rich are in on it all along.
Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2018 05:07 PM (xjiRE)

Human nature is inclined towards oligarchy.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 26, 2018 05:11 PM (wCmLp)

183 So, now we can send in the Marines based on the Monroe Doctrine and take the oil?

Posted by: Jean at December 26, 2018 05:12 PM (bk3t/)

184 >>Human nature is inclined towards oligarchy.

I think you can only get away with that in Utah.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 05:12 PM (XlSbW)

185
The Russkies don't give a shit about the oil. They now have a hot water base on the Atlantic side of the Panama canal on mainland South America.

It doesn't do them any good if they don't have a fleet that can make it there.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 26, 2018 05:12 PM (TAmPV)

186 Venezuela also has signed over 49.9 percent of Citgo, its wholly owned
company in the United States -- including three Gulf Coast refineries
and a countrywide web of pipelines -- as collateral to Russia's
state-owned Rosneft oil behemoth for a reported $1.5 billion in
desperately needed cash.

___

MUH RUSSIAN COLLUSION! IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!

Wait he had nothing at all to do with it?

GAIA DAMN IT.

Posted by: The FNM at December 26, 2018 05:13 PM (cRkMZ)

187 But Californias new Governor is cute, that's important
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 05:10 PM (bQtop)

He's also just as responsible for the State's current state as Jerry Brown is.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 26, 2018 05:13 PM (k6F4I)

188 What's a liberal to do now that the Rooskies own a good chunk of Venezuela's oil fields?

Venezuela = yeah socialism
Rooskies = Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 26, 2018 05:14 PM (p0nVR)

189 So, now we can send in the Marines based on the Monroe Doctrine and take the oil?
Posted by: Jean at December 26, 2018 05:12 PM (bk3t/)

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Their oil sucks. It is heavy grade and low quality. We have much more at much better quality right here at home.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 26, 2018 05:14 PM (ffYR/)

190 Weren't a lot of those Venezuelan oil fields (mostly far offshore, aren't they?) developed with the help of $10 billion given to them by Barky back in 2009 or 2010? That was back when he was illegally stopping all offshore oil pumping, here, for which he earned a contempt citation from a federal court. Same time, IIRC.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (VnmhN)

191 i'm more worried about dipshit progs living in this country than i am the soviet navy. hell most of congress is more of a threat than the russian navy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (KP5rU)

192 So the Russians will have a warm water port in Venezuela. Great, but they don't have much of a navy left that could reach it and certainly not one that could overcome a blockade by a US carrier group. Their wood burning carrier is broken and the dry dock to fix it sunk.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (gC2IV)

193
Thank you so much for the music drive, it came Christmas Eve and really brightened my day

You're welcome! I'll be happy if it makes you happy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (LsBY9)

194 Venezuela also has signed over 49.9 percent of Citgo, its wholly owned
company in the United States -- including three Gulf Coast refineries
and a countrywide web of pipelines -- as collateral to Russia's
state-owned Rosneft oil behemoth for a reported $1.5 billion in
desperately needed cash.

___

MUH RUSSIAN COLLUSION! IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!

Wait he had nothing at all to do with it?

GAIA DAMN IT.
Posted by: The FNM at December 26, 2018 05:13 PM (cRkMZ)

See post# 86.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (k6F4I)

195 What people should really worry about are the achinese and Russians moving into South America in a big way. By the way that makes the border wall conversation even more uncomfortable for Democrats.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (gI6+S)

196 Serious question as a veteran, haven't we fought enough wars?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 05:16 PM (bQtop)

197
Their oil sucks. It is heavy grade and low quality. We have much more at much better quality right here at home.
Posted by: Calm Mentor

______________

We have to be the only country that has such abundant resources but we let environmental lawyers tie it all up.

Even traditionally "socialist-leaning" countries like Norway allow for offshore drilling to pay for all their government bennies.

Posted by: Blago at December 26, 2018 05:16 PM (UfkIY)

198 196; that's for shit sure.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2018 05:16 PM (KP5rU)

199
Venezuelan crude is shit.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 26, 2018 05:17 PM (TAmPV)

200

there's some term called like the "drawbridge" effect where once they
make their money, they almost want to make commerce for other people as
difficult as possible.

How wonderfully generous of them. Aren't they just the best people in the whole wide world? Who wouldn't want them in charge of life?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 26, 2018 05:17 PM (HaL55)

201 Does Loopy make a good Moscow Mule?

Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at December 26, 2018 05:17 PM (3icOz)

202 Senor Maduro, aguante mi cerveza!

Posted by: Jane Sanders at December 26, 2018 05:17 PM (Z9C5C)

203 Talk about collusion, now Russia has its greedy mittens on US oil and uranium.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 26, 2018 05:17 PM (9VhQH)

204 Venezuelan crude is shit.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 26, 2018 05:17 PM (TAmPV)

Well, stands to reason. Shit country. Shit crude.

Posted by: Sponge at December 26, 2018 05:18 PM (Zz0t1)

205 i'm more worried about dipshit progs living in this country than i am the soviet navy. hell most of congress is more of a threat than the russian navy.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (KP5rU)

What makes you say that?

Posted by: Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) Wanting to rain down a Nuclear Holocaust on Tens of Millions of Americans at December 26, 2018 05:18 PM (k6F4I)

206 i'm more worried about dipshit progs living in this country than i am the soviet navy. hell most of congress is more of a threat than the russian navy.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (KP5rU)

The Russian Navy. Sank their dry dock. Ruthless bastards.

Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2018 05:18 PM (BBhgz)

207 for a reported $1.5 billion in desperately needed cash.

That sounds like a steal. We should have started a bidding war.

Posted by: t-bird at December 26, 2018 05:18 PM (nIvDu)

208 201; northernlurker, does being the star of the donkey show count?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (KP5rU)

209 201 Does Loopy make a good Moscow Mule?

Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at December 26, 2018 05:17 PM (3icOz

I make a much better Donkey Punch!

Posted by: Occasional Cortex at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (AZP2g)

210 Read the rest of the Wili page on Rachel Corrie, how many Wili articals about someone's death and has a picture of them dead?
Not many is my guess.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (/rm4P)

211 Human nature is inclined towards oligarchy.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 26, 2018 05:11 PM (wCmLp)

Far more people are peasants at heart than you would believe, and having someone else decide things gets them off the hook and gives them someone else to blame (although very quietly) when their own lives suck!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (f3oO4)

212 154 It's actually very smart of Maduro to do this so that the oil refineries won't be killing the rain forest and warming the globe with their Dihydrogen Monoxide emissions.
Posted by: Alexandra Fiasco-Cortex at December 26, 2018 05:03 PM (k6F4I)

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Almost bought it was the real OC until I saw that "Dihydrogen Monoxide" is spelled correctly. Soon as I saw that, I knew it was a fake nic.

Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (WEBkv)

213 Venezuelan crude is shit.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

Isn't it high in sulfur and dirty brown with other impurities?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (kDUUX)

214 RE sidebar story: "Guatemalan Migrant Father Declined Medical Treatment For Sick Child Before Death"

Sounds like the behavior of a man using his child like a drug mule. Why would one deny further help? Note how precipitously the child died and in the manner he did. It mimics, from the description so far disclosed, a bursting cocaine bag because the father's behavior is so curious and suspect.

I wonder if the MFM will pursue this story any further or just continue with, "The BP essentially killed an innocent..."? Oh how I wonder.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (6eEQ+)

215

The Russkies don't give a shit about the oil. They now have a hot water base on the Atlantic side of the Panama canal on mainland South America.

Is that a quote from SecNav's next budget justification.

Posted by: Jean at December 26, 2018 05:20 PM (bk3t/)

216 Does Loopy make a good Moscow Mule?
Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at December 26, 2018 05:17 PM (3icOz)

Is that the Russian donkey show? I've heard she's a legend.

Posted by: Sponge at December 26, 2018 05:20 PM (Zz0t1)

217
Isn't it high in sulfur and dirty brown with other impurities?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (kDUUX)

Yeah, it's very expensive to refine

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 26, 2018 05:21 PM (TAmPV)

218 Ok mister Maduro, for the remaining interest in the oil fields I offer you a $100 internet voucher, a paddle ball game, an ash tray, a broken TV remote, and this piece of string. What say you?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 26, 2018 05:21 PM (gC2IV)

219 >>Isn't it high in sulfur and dirty brown with other impurities?

Just like their hookers.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 05:21 PM (XlSbW)

220 venezualan crude is full of anaconda shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2018 05:21 PM (KP5rU)

221 remember "Love Story"? "Love means never having to say you're sorry"
being a socialist means never having to say "I'm sorry, I was wrong."

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at December 26, 2018 05:22 PM (ZqRa6)

222 Does anyone know which fields they gave the Russians access to? Are they the ones that were developed and owned by Exxon?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2018 05:22 PM (gI6+S)

223 I do think one big reason rich people have become so left wing is crushing taxes rarely touch their wealth. So they can indulge all they want in Leftism
Posted by: Blago at December 26, 2018 05:10 PM (UfkIY)

There is the peer reviewed study that finds that netting just over 85k a year ( I assume it's adjusted for region) is enough to satisfy all a person's disposable and non disposable desires. So I guess you don't have to be rich to become complacent and stupid.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at December 26, 2018 05:23 PM (FKi9J)

224 Isn't it high in sulfur and dirty brown with other impurities?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (kDUUX)

Yeah, it's very expensive to refine
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

Which explains why Citgo gas sucked.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2018 05:23 PM (kDUUX)

225 i'm more worried about dipshit progs living in this country than i am
the soviet navy. hell most of congress is more of a threat than the
russian navy.

***

Yep. There isn't a country in the world - including Iran - that is a greater threat to the rights of Americans then the Democrat party...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 26, 2018 05:23 PM (cRkMZ)

226 Almost bought it was the real OC until I saw that "Dihydrogen Monoxide" is spelled correctly. Soon as I saw that, I knew it was a fake nic.

Everyone knows hydrogen hydroxide is the bigger threat.

Posted by: The Real Anastasia Okey-Dokey at December 26, 2018 05:23 PM (Ydn2k)

227 i'm more worried about dipshit progs living in this country than i am the soviet navy. hell most of congress is more of a threat than the russian navy.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (KP5rU)

What makes you say that?...

At this point I am thinking WTFFFF!?

Posted by: Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) Wanting to rain down a Nuclear Holocaust on Tens of Millions of Americans at December 26, 2018 05:18 PM (k6F4I)....

Then I see the sock.

Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2018 05:23 PM (BBhgz)

228 Isn't it high in sulfur and dirty brown with other impurities?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (kDUUX)

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It is very expensive to extract because Venezuela has screwed up the pressurization in their fields so much, and very expensive to refine to make it into anything usable for energy.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 26, 2018 05:24 PM (ffYR/)

229 Ok mister Maduro, for the remaining interest in the oil fields I offer you a $100 internet voucher, a paddle ball game, an ash tray, a broken TV remote, and this piece of string. What say you?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 26, 2018 05:21 PM (gC2IV)

Throw in a couple used batteries and a crumpled gum wrapper and you've got yourself a deal!

Posted by: Nicholas Maduro at December 26, 2018 05:24 PM (k6F4I)

230
Please, it's "hydroxylic acid".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2018 05:24 PM (LsBY9)

231 I bet they don't even have bacon left in Venezuela

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 05:26 PM (bQtop)

232 I can't wait for the day the real A,O-C posts here, but doubt that day will ever happen.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2018 05:26 PM (/rm4P)

233 Just remember ya can't drink oil

Oh also how come the lefties aren't all up in arms about oil polution?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2018 05:26 PM (Y+V3r)

234 Posted by: Nicholas Maduro at December 26, 2018 05:24 PM (k6F4I)

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Ok, I'll throw in the batteries and the gum wrappers, but the string is off the table.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 26, 2018 05:26 PM (gC2IV)

235
The Russian Navy? With its undetectable peat-burning ships?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2018 05:26 PM (LsBY9)

236 Russia has been exporting large amounts of crude to Venezuela. Let that sink in for a minute.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2018 05:26 PM (gI6+S)

237 It doesn't do them any good if they don't have a fleet that can make it there.

They have that ONE smoke belching aircraft carrier tied to a dry dock anchored to the floor of a frozen bay. Feature that coal oil fired ship spewing high sulfur coal oil. What an improvement!

Posted by: DanMan at December 26, 2018 05:26 PM (XTiHL)

238 232 I can't wait for the day the real A,O-C posts here, but doubt that day will ever happen.
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2018 05:26 PM (/rm4P)

She does, just under the name 'Ramdo'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Tribune of the Hotties at December 26, 2018 05:27 PM (xJa6I)

239 There is the peer reviewed study that finds that netting just over 85k a year ( I assume it's adjusted for region) is enough to satisfy all a person's disposable and non disposable desires. So I guess you don't have to be rich to become complacent and stupid.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation

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I think it was something more along the lines you weren't that much happier with more than that. But $85k for a household is lower middle class in my area.

But I definitely think if people thought their life savings were in danger, their politics regarding things like tranny bathrooms would take a back seat to economic issues.

Posted by: Blago at December 26, 2018 05:27 PM (UfkIY)

240 I'm waiting for the inevitable Vox/Slate/Huffpo/Thomas Friedman article progs'plaining that Maduro is actually a conservative.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 26, 2018 05:27 PM (HmZuC)

241 Far more people are peasants at heart than you would believe, and having someone else decide things gets them off the hook and gives them someone else to blame (although very quietly) when their own lives suck!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (f3oO4)

Most people want stability and safety. During the middle ages, IIRC, many people preferred serfdom because it guaranteed that they had land to work and a lord to protect them from hostile men.

Even when the people don't want it, those in power are inclined to concentrate power amongst themselves. Consolidation in one man is tricky, because he can be deposed, but consolidation among a group of like-minded people who share a common interest in making the decisions is easier.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 26, 2018 05:28 PM (wCmLp)

242 How much fun will it be when Venezuela re-nationalizes their oil industry and steal the companies back from Russia?

Posted by: Ron Stanford at December 26, 2018 05:28 PM (6MqaG)

243 Isn't it high in sulfur and dirty brown with other impurities?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2018 05:19 PM (kDUUX)
.........

Makes those sweet Russian tanks purr like kittens.

Posted by: wth at December 26, 2018 05:28 PM (v0R5T)

244 >>>Isn't it high in sulfur and dirty brown with other impurities?

You leave Sean King out of this.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 26, 2018 05:30 PM (HmZuC)

245 70
CFIUS (pronounced "SIFF-ee-us"), that's it. Sounds like a Roman name,
general or something - "CFIUS Africanus then led his legions to complete
the defeat of the Carthaginian remnants".

Our best friend
Iran has also been mucking around in V'zuela since the Maduro years.
Would imagine they've poked around in the oil patch down there, too.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 26, 2018 04:42 PM (QDnY+)<br>The good news is that, for Iranians, at least, there's no age of consent.

Posted by: Burford at December 26, 2018 05:30 PM (9//Ek)

246 The Russkies don't give a shit about the oil. They now have a hot water base on the Atlantic side of the Panama canal on mainland South America."

So fucking what? Seriously! The days of the USSR power projecting and contesting the US militarily are long over. They can't even afford to take over that little buttfucking corner of the Ukraine, right next door to them. The perfect metaphor for Russia's military today is that supposed robot they put on display a little while back - and then it turned out to just be a man in a fancy suit doing a stupid dance. While he was drunk. That's the Russian military today.

China's military I could see worrying about. Russia's military is a shadow of a joke. All blow, no go.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2018 05:31 PM (Kpl3J)

247 How much fun will it be when Venezuela re-nationalizes their oil industry and steal the companies back from Russia?
Posted by: Ron Stanford at December 26, 2018 05:28 PM (6MqaG)

Venezuela has only nationalized their oilfields 2x. It will never happen again.

Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2018 05:31 PM (BBhgz)

248 >> those in power are inclined to concentrate power amongst themselves

What we need is a clear and simple system that is well outlined and well defined, preferably in a single overriding document, that we could use to structure our Government.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 05:31 PM (XlSbW)

249 So is Venezuela going to have all 2015 Chevys on their streets fifty years from now?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at December 26, 2018 05:31 PM (FKi9J)

250 How much fun will it be when Venezuela re-nationalizes their oil industry and steal the companies back from Russia?
Posted by: Ron Stanford at December 26, 2018 05:28 PM (6MqaG)

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In the past, venezuela has stolen from private companies, not Governments. I don't think even Maduro would risk the fallout of stealing from Russia.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 26, 2018 05:32 PM (ffYR/)

251 Putin drinks their milkshake.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 26, 2018 05:32 PM (oKFc3)

252 Putin drinks their dirty brown milkshake.

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 05:33 PM (XlSbW)

253 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (VnmhN)
That was Brasil.

Posted by: clutch at December 26, 2018 05:33 PM (kiSdp)

254 241
It's really impossible to trust unknown outsiders and let them get involved with high level decisions being made "for" the good of the masses.

Posted by: Deep State Hrothgar at December 26, 2018 05:33 PM (f3oO4)

255 Venezuela is proof of how bad things get with socialism, and how hard it will be to get rid of it.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 26, 2018 05:33 PM (HmZuC)

256 Putin drinks their dirty brown milkshake.
Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 05:33 PM (XlSbW)

Sounds like a Fusion GPS report.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at December 26, 2018 05:33 PM (FKi9J)

257 Nood.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 26, 2018 05:34 PM (l9m7l)

258 2015? Your off by a decade or two

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 26, 2018 05:34 PM (bQtop)

259 Venezuela also has signed over 49.9 percent of Citgo, its wholly owned company in the United States -- including three Gulf Coast refineries and a countrywide web of pipelines -- as collateral to Russia's state-owned Rosneft oil behemoth for a reported $1.5 billion in desperately needed cash.

Russia you say? And Citgo is a US-based company? Well team, that's close enough to fall within our purview. Andy, get the Houston FBI on the line. Bob, find out if POTUS or any associates own stock in Citgo.

Ha ha! Yeah I know, right?

Posted by: Robert "Beto" Mueller at December 26, 2018 05:34 PM (786Ro)

260 I give FREE penis injections on my private island!Drill baybee drill....

Posted by: saf at December 26, 2018 05:34 PM (5IHGB)

261 Whether Russia is still a world power ( and their huge stock of nukes might want a say in that) is open for debate, but they still love to fuck with us.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2018 05:35 PM (Y+V3r)

262 What we need is a clear and simple system that is well outlined and well defined, preferably in a single overriding document, that we could use to structure our Government.
Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2018 05:31 PM (XlSbW)

If it's written in cursive, that's a non-starter!

Posted by: Deep State Hrothgar at December 26, 2018 05:36 PM (f3oO4)

263 Weren't a lot of those Venezuelan oil fields (mostly far offshore, aren't they?) developed with the help of $10 billion given to them by Barky back in 2009 or 2010? That was back when he was illegally stopping all offshore oil pumping, here, for which he earned a contempt citation from a federal court. Same time, IIRC.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 26, 2018 05:15 PM (VnmhN)

I think that was Brazil. To the benefit of Dr Evil Moneybags himself.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 26, 2018 05:36 PM (Hpenq)

264 Even when the people don't want it, those in power are inclined to concentrate power amongst themselves. Consolidation in one man is tricky, because he can be deposed, but consolidation among a group of like-minded people who share a common interest in making the decisions is easier."

The default state of human society is quite evident for those who study up on the past - whether it's English history, or Japanese, or Chinese, or any other, it's a long running cycle of a group of barons (nobles, warlords, whatever name works) who band together to cement control, then eventually one of them rises over the others and centralizes things, but then his successor gets week and things devolve to baronial control, and then a centralizing authority rises again, back and forth. The common people are generally nothing more than pawns in this game.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2018 05:36 PM (Kpl3J)

265 2The Russkies don't give a shit about the oil. They now have a hot water base on the Atlantic side of the Panama canal on mainland South America."

So fucking what? Seriously! The days of the USSR power projecting and contesting the US militarily are long over. They can't even afford to take over that little buttfucking corner of the Ukraine, right next door to them. The perfect metaphor for Russia's military today is that supposed robot they put on display a little while back - and then it turned out to just be a man in a fancy suit doing a stupid dance. While he was drunk. That's the Russian military today.

China's military I could see worrying about. Russia's military is a shadow of a joke. All blow, no go.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2018 05:31 PM (

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Russia also has a few thousand thermonuclear weapons including ICBMs.

Venezuela has lost those oil fields to Russia and China permanently. Both of those countries won't hesitate to enforce their ownership by using their military, just like we used to.

Posted by: rd at December 26, 2018 05:38 PM (kfj5i)

266 232 I can't wait for the day the real A,O-C posts here, but doubt that day will ever happen.
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2018 05:26 PM (/rm4P)

Our guys are getting so good at the parodies, how will we know?

Posted by: m at December 26, 2018 05:39 PM (1cK+7)

267
Then I see the sock.
Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2018 05:23 PM (BBhgz)

Yeah that Swalwell sock got me too.

Posted by: clutch at December 26, 2018 05:40 PM (kiSdp)

268 One thing I've learned in life is that people are pretty much self-interested.

No one is going to learn how to drill for and refine oil if there is nothing in it for them. The need to start offering palatial estates and the choicest of Venezuelan whores to foreigners with job skills if they hope to salvage this thing.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 26, 2018 05:40 PM (UqW5t)

269 Their wood burning carrier is broken and the dry dock to fix it sunk.

Too bad they hadn't opened up the carrier's hull before the dry dock went to the bottom.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 26, 2018 05:50 PM (Hr/WJ)

270 The advantage is they can nationalize it again, if they're not afraid of their leadership coming down with a mild case of radioactive poison.

Posted by: DaveM at December 26, 2018 05:55 PM (WWC3Y)

271 Sounds very soviet down there. Dr. Zhavista.

Posted by: PJ at December 26, 2018 05:56 PM (qlTN9)

272 You missed the chance to use "neither," Ace-a-roo

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 26, 2018 06:25 PM (4ZE6o)

273 Real-life Venezuela is a better production of Atlas Shrugged than any of those inept films.

Posted by: Takashi Sheffield at December 26, 2018 06:43 PM (wMZtq)

274 Fuck them. They wanted replace capitalism with socialism so they reap what they sow.

We should go in and offer them toilet paper and three square meals a day for each man women and child in return for us pumping out, refining and selling the oil and keeping 95% of the profits.

They'd take it.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 26, 2018 11:15 PM (QMwOT)

275 lol @ socialists who continue to say that when commies seize the means of capital they can do just as a good a job

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