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White House Suggests There's a Lot of Wiggle Room in $5 Billion Demand for Wall
Eh, what a cuck. This isn't all on Trump, obviously. The Establishment Party in Power still hasn't gotten it through its head that we are tired of their barely-disguised open borders policy and we're not going to accept their bullshit about "virtual fences" any longer.I don't know what alternate funding sources she means. I've heard claims that Trump could direct the military to use its funds for the wall, but that sounds completely wrong.
"We have other ways that we can get to that $5 billion that we'll work with Congress," White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told Fox News on Tuesday morning. She added that the Trump administration could support $1.6 billion in border security funding proposed by Senate Democrats, as long as it can "couple that with other funding resources" to get to $5 billion. She added that "at the end of the day, we don't want to shut down the government. We want to shut down the border." Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi have cast the potential lapse in funding as the "Trump shutdown." When Pelosi goaded Trump into an Oval Office fracas last week, the characterization appeared to irritate the president.
Still, Trump himself has not weighed in Tuesday on how much money he would accept. As always, a comment or tweet from the president could trample on the message administration officials try to send. In proposing $1.6 billion in border security funding, Schumer has said it would go to building new or repairing existing fences, rather than the wall as Trump has proposed it. The White House appears to want to claim that funding as "wall" money to promote a victory.But maybe this is the alternate source of funding they mean: Some guy calculated that if each of Trump's 63 million voters donated $80 each, they'd have the five billion needed for the wall. But then, that's not the full wall; that would be the $5 billion sought this year for it. Still -- it's something. I'd buy that for eighty dollars.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: CHamber of COmmerce at December 18, 2018 03:42 PM (VckGX)
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2018 03:42 PM (VckGX)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 03:43 PM (GvMX3)
1) Wait before going on a rampage because what is reported isn't what was said.
2) The Art of the Deal is a continuous process.
3) Seriously - wait a bit and find out what actually is going on because our press is matched in its maliciousness only by its stupidity.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 18, 2018 03:44 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 03:45 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 18, 2018 03:45 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2018 03:46 PM (AllCR)
Posted by: happyfeet at December 18, 2018 03:46 PM (mLfQi)
Very disappointed with this cave.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 03:46 PM (GvMX3)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2018 03:46 PM (W+vEI)
He handled the Norks and The Chi-Coms fine.
I do want my wall, our wall, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 03:46 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: nip at December 18, 2018 03:46 PM (DfGpI)
And spare me with the 4D Chess BS. Anyone trying to say "he'll just do it X way now" ignore that he's wasted two years by not doing it X way already.
His presidency is effectively over without a meaningful wall. The half-assed partial fence they're currently building is not what won him the election.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (CQ3Qb)
Trump's from New York, he's built up a resistance.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (RU4sa)
1) Wait before going on a rampage because what is reported isn't what was said.
2) The Art of the Deal is a continuous process.
3) Seriously - wait a bit and find out what actually is going on because our press is matched in its maliciousness only by its stupidity.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 18, 2018 03:44 PM (hLRSq)
This is true. Between false stories like Russian Collusion--which the alphabet leftist newsies still parrot--and stories intended to demoralize us, we need to learn the story of the Zen Master: "We will see...."
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (ujg0T)
1) Wait before going on a rampage because what is reported isn't what was said.
2) The Art of the Deal is a continuous process.
3) Seriously - wait a bit and find out what actually is going on because our press is matched in its maliciousness only by its stupidity.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 18, 2018 03:44 PM (hLRSq)
I'm slow to learn, but yes.
+1 what Mikey says
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (ptqGC)
As long as the internal enforcement is nearly non-existent, there will be a very powerful incentive to come here illegally.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Big swingin Al at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (U45Mp)
Posted by: josephistan at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (7HtZB)
1) Wait before going on a rampage because what is reported isn't what was said.
2) The Art of the Deal is a continuous process.
3) Seriously - wait a bit and find out what actually is going on because our press is matched in its maliciousness only by its stupidity.
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You are so right.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2018 03:48 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 03:48 PM (kyzbF)
Posted by: Big swingin Al at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (U45Mp)
No Can Do, Haole.
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at December 18, 2018 03:48 PM (UnA8+)
He handled the Norks and The Chi-Coms fine.
^^^^^^^^
This.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 03:48 PM (xzezz)
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 03:48 PM (nID3z)
As a start.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (ptqGC)
That'll teach us.
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He should stay on the Price is Right.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (wGbBR)
This is a fail on Trumps part to drive home the utility and necessity of the wall.
and....
The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (qxq6t)
Is this a blink or is this like last January's meeting with Feinstein where we all were in freak out mode over gun control, or something?
Could be. It's Trump after all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (/9p9e)
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (444To)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (x6zMD)
Posted by: Archer at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (BOhSZ)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (/rm4P)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (CQ3Qb)
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I'm not so dour but I guarantee one thing. The Dem's will campaign on Trump's failure to build the wall.
That takes chutzpah.
Posted by: WisRich at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (G0vdT)
Republicans told President Trump to wait until after the midterms for the Wall because they told him the issue would hurt them in their campaigns.
Then the Republicans screwed him.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (kyzbF)
Given Trump's career in building large things, I'm guessing he has a better idea how much it would cost if done privately, and not only would it be cheaper, but it would be faster.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (VckGX)
Posted by: William at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (hbDGM)
Unfortunately, that doesn't make me any more excited or ready for when killin' time a-comes.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (UnA8+)
"They agreed, but then cut me off, so I had to fund the rest with the Military. But the Dems did agree, see Judge (s)?"
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (14URa)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (CQ3Qb)
Then it is not on Trump. It is on those GOPee creeps.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (ujg0T)
"They agreed, but then cut me off, so I had to fund the rest with the Military. But the Dems did agree, see Judge (s)?"
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (UsCnO)
"NO."
- - Judge Buch M. Danno
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (/9p9e)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (GvMX3)
5% if they can show that money comes AFTER Taxes.
95% if they can't.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (444To)
I don't know what alternate funding sources she means. I've heard claims that Trump could direct the military to use its funds for the wall, but that sounds completely wrong.
The incoming chairman of the Joint Cheifs of Staff said he could it.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (kyzbF)
Posted by: f2000 at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (gj+4U)
The people who hold the power in America have let their willfulness decide their strength of their grip on the centers of power. They now make willful decisions in the name of "Justice" and "Rule of Law".
And who tempts people to willful disregard of their fellow citizens?
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (vDqXW)
This is a fail on Trumps part to drive home the utility and necessity of the wall.
and....
The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (qxq6t)
I read yesterday that the NYC subway needs $20+ billion for repairs and they'll get it in the NY state legislature.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (CQ3Qb)
The GOP wants open borders just as much as the DNC. Thats all there is to it.
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (axaxF)
Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2018 03:52 PM (lK7fO)
Posted by: f2000 at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (gj+4U)
"We don't need no, Department of Education..."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 03:52 PM (/9p9e)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 18, 2018 03:52 PM (pzswX)
Posted by: DaveA at December 18, 2018 03:52 PM (FhXTo)
It is a Security Issue and as such can be paid for with the Military Budget.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:52 PM (444To)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 18, 2018 03:52 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: Max BOOThole at December 18, 2018 03:52 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (IlV2p)
39 we've seized more than enough from the drug cartels to pay for a wall, if they really wanted to
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (VckGX)
Oh, no, we dinint! Remember, El Jefe Sessions loved letting local law enforcement plunder that stockpile of cash and saleable goods in order to stock up on military grade weaponry.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (MLfDH)
David Lee Roth era > Van Hagar
Rock needs swagger. Whatever his flaws, DLR had swagger.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (xJa6I)
That'll teach us.
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He should stay on the Price is Right.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (8XRCm)
You know, Drew Carey IS a much better host. Usually the replacement host is not as good as the original--Steve Harvey tries, be he is no Richard Dawson--but on The Price Is Right, it works.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (5KWnQ)
With all due respect Rush is full of shit. I learned this in 2009 and 2010 when he said repeatedly his 'sources' said Dems didn't have the votes for Ocare.
That was the last time I took him seriously.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (GvMX3)
And it doesn't make sense to blame Democrats. There won't be a wall because Congress--both parties--refuse to support a wall.
Personally, I'm fucking sick of hearing about it. There will not be a wall. Fine then, fuckers. Get on with other business.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (hjaPQ)
I'm still trying to figure why Rodentstein is still running the DOJ after the midterms.
Yes, Rosenstein is still running the DOJ. Rosensteing is Whitaker's boss. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (kyzbF)
Yup. And Rick Perry can think of a few others that are superfluous.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (fDU8w)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (ujg0T)
Any moron could see that threatening a shutdown that could only end with 100% surrender was foolish. Trump did that, not the GOPe.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (ujg0T)
Steve Harvey isn't allowed to be blackout drunk on Camera.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (UnA8+)
Rock needs swagger. Whatever his flaws, DLR had swagger.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (xJa6I)
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This.
Diver Down was VH at its best.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (8XRCm)
To be honest, as much as I hate the way our borders are dealt with I am highly unlikely to be directly impacted. There just aren't that many illegals running around in my hood.
If those who have to live with this shit, and in California I mean that literally, won't support using tax dollars to protect their homes and they want to live with the gangs, the drugs, the disease and poverty that it brings to their neighborhoods then have at it.
But I'm not setting up a second tax system to pay for stuff the government already gets plenty of my money for.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (/rm4P)
Posted by: TexasDan at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (yL25O)
It isn't even a sensible question. David Lee Roth was Van Halen.
Hagar was great in Montrose. He has sucked donkey balls ever since.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (444To)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (wCmLp)
Seriously 'It's got what it takes, so tell me why can't this be love'???
Beta. Pure beta begging.
Robin Thicke's 'Blurred Lines' is more rock and roll than Van Haggar.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (xJa6I)
As a start.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (ptqGC)
You're assuming it was women. I'd wager young boys were paid off.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (/1szn)
Go through the military to get the wall.
Posted by: Mike at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (c056A)
***
Of course he can.
In WWII its not like FDR called up Congress every time the army/marines built defensive works.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (cRkMZ)
Posted by: Roy at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (9rXxD)
Posted by: Dark Helmet at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (PafRH)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (/rm4P)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (kyzbF)
With all due respect Rush is full of shit. I learned this in 2009 and 2010 when he said repeatedly his 'sources' said Dems didn't have the votes for Ocare.
That was the last time I took him seriously.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (GvMX3)
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They didn't have the votes for the final process. Which is why they had to do Deem-as-passed and the Senate Reconciliation rules--and couldn't touch it after that.
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (vDqXW)
Rock needs swagger. Whatever his flaws, DLR had swagger.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (xJa6I)
I was fortunate enough to go to a Van Halen dress rehearsal years ago. Very few people, big venue. I was standing right at the stage and DLR's sweat splashed on me. Also saw that Hager dude at some biker rally and he sucked.
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (14URa)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (444To)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 03:51 PM (TAmPV)
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Is the wall for national defense?
I say yes.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (RU4sa)
It isn't even a sensible question. David Lee Roth was Van Halen.
Hagar was great in Montrose. He has sucked donkey balls ever since.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (444To)
Agreed.
I do like "I Can't Drive 55", but somehow the same band that was all about sex became all about love. And weak, thin love at that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (xJa6I)
I cannot switch radio stations fast enough when I hear Van Halen.
Led Zeppelin on the other hand...
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (kyzbF)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (/tuJf)
Oh yeah? Next time you're walking through Walmart notice how nobody else is speaking English.
Posted by: Gonads and Strife at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (smXDp)
Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (IlV2p)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (GvMX3)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (RU4sa)
89 >>Van Halen sucked.
They were no Warrant, that's for sure.
are you trying to say their success was unwarranted?
Posted by: Anachronda at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (NmR1a)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:52 PM (444To)
Well then why hasn't it already? Like say back in January 2017?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (W+vEI)
I think the big cost here is eminent domaining the land necessary to build a wall.
Right now I think a lot of it is still privately held.
Actually putting up a wall shouldn't be very expensive.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (GBteo)
Walk up and down outside the Wall.
Some come hand in hand
Others gather together in caravans
The barefoot children and the marginalized take their stand.
And when they've given their all, some stagger and fall, after all,
It's not easy bangin' your heart against some mad bugger's Wall.
Posted by: Chuck Schumer at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (kyzbF)
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You tear the radio out of the dashboard?
Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (IlV2p)
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (14URa)
You are a secret weapon, Peaches.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:58 PM (444To)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 18, 2018 03:58 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: Gonads and Strife at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (smXDp)
A very large percentage of women I see in Wal-Mart around here are in full trash-bag Burqa.
Even most of the black women are Burqa'd (but without the niqab).
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 03:58 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 03:58 PM (RU4sa)
Obama and the Bushies don't want the wall.
Posted by: Mike at December 18, 2018 03:58 PM (c056A)
Why is Schumer part of this negotiation anyways?
Because Ryan, McConnell told President Trump to fuck off.
And McCarthy is a useless fraud...who also told President Trump to sod off.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 03:58 PM (kyzbF)
Posted by: Sponge at December 18, 2018 03:59 PM (F4u7C)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 03:59 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Gonads and Strife at December 18, 2018 03:59 PM (smXDp)
Old tracts used to have really vague descriptions rather than nicely surveyed plots. At one time, Mrs928 did lease mapping for a coal company and some of the deeds had descriptions like, ride west on a mule for the length of time it takes to smoke a cigarette.
Try plotting that out for a coal lease.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2018 03:55 PM (CXeIv)
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From now on, I measure all long distances in mule-smokes.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 03:59 PM (AzW6q)
Any moron could see that threatening a shutdown that could only end with 100% surrender was foolish. Trump did that, not the GOPe.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (CQ3Qb)
I didn't see the white flag go up, when did that happen? In his metting with Pelosi and Shumer Trump said "one way or another he is going to get the wall" and now they're talking about other ways.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 03:59 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:59 PM (444To)
Makes sense.
And with government projects, the initial cost estimate is typically tripled by the time it's done (Big Dig, CA's train to nowhere, etc.). The opposite of wiggle room.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (W+vEI)
That was some good shit.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:58 PM (444To)
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Space Station 5 and Bad Motorscooter
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 18, 2018 03:53 PM (5KWnQ)
I have had that fear myself--that the USA is going the way the UK went. However, Trump wisely has refrained from the Imperial Overstretch of the Bushyrovies. Especially since the real struggle is now at home.
The Demunists have been going Labourite ever since Joe Biden began plagiarizing Neil Kinnock, if not before that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (ujg0T)
Trump should do that for The Wall. Start a GoFundMe or some equivalent that's willing to take a cut of it.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (J+mig)
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"They agreed, but then cut me off, so I had to fund the rest with the Military. But the Dems did agree, see Judge (s)?"
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (UsCnO)
"NO."
- - Judge Buch M. Danno
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 03:50 PM (/9p9e)
So about 5 years ago, the Hawaii 5-0 reboot. This year, the Magnum P.I. reboot.
Proof you can never go back in time.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (14URa)
You are a secret weapon, Peaches.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at D
"was fortunate enough to go to a Van Halen dress rehearsal years ago. Very few people, big venue."
which is how well raised young ladies from good families say "I'm hot."
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 18, 2018 03:57 PM (GBteo)
I'm telling you ... we could all show up on Saturday with our own post-hole diggers and chain-link, on private land donated by the rightful owners, and the GOP would be BEGGING the Dems behind closed doors to call a judge somewhere and stop this shit.
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (axaxF)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (GvMX3)
Posted by: m at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (Q7mSB)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: blaster at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (ZfRYq)
Trump should do that for The Wall. Start a GoFundMe or some equivalent that's willing to take a cut of it.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (J+mig)
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I'd donate to that.
Monthly, in fact.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (RU4sa)
Trump has a history of offering to work with the Dems to demonstrate that the Dems will not cooperate on anything to benefit our own country so I no longer panic about statements like this. I am pissed at the RINOs for not having the wall partway completed already but I knew going in that many of them are open borders (and with Speaker Ryan being one of them - wall had no chance.) I hope that weasel contracts aids or something and slowly wastes away, knowing his actions caused the disease.
Posted by: paleRider at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (eASYU)
1...2...3...4...
The fvcking government just spent five billion dollars while you read that.
Trump can do better.
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (jYje5)
Posted by: Anachronda at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (GvMX3)
Time to get them started on Arabic.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Max BOOThole at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (BqBId)
That's why you don't have a wall.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 03:59 PM (444To)
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We are no longer the stakeholders. We are divided between the beneficiaries and the deplorable.
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (MTjB1)
If the Dems didn't want their new voters asploding I'd be willing to see their budget proposals for a wall.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (cRkMZ)
Any moron could see that threatening a shutdown that could only end with 100% surrender was foolish. Trump did that, not the GOPe.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (CQ3Qb)
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Brian, Trump took the pole position and highlighted that by featuring Nanzi and Chuckie while doing so. Now he offers room to move for Nanzi and Chuck. They bite, he wins. Notice it is all about financing the wall. Has nothing to do with no wall. Art of Deal stuff.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (/rm4P)
We dont need a damn wall if they would start shutting down restaurants
and hotels that ignore the law. We don't have to spend a dime to fix
this.
Posted by: Gonads and Strife at December 18, 2018 03:59 PM (smXDp)
I tend to agree with this. There's been this fixation on, well, Trump won the WH on the wall promise so if he doesn't do it, off with his head. Lemme ask anyone saying that, what are your alternatives to Trump? He is, quite literally, this country's last chance.
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 04:02 PM (14URa)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:02 PM (RU4sa)
1) Wait before going on a rampage because what is reported isn't what was said.
2) The Art of the Deal is a continuous process.
3) Seriously - wait a bit and find out what actually is going on because our press is matched in its maliciousness only by its stupidity.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Ho Ho Ho! Red Faced Rants are In at The Outrage Outlet! at December 18, 2018 03:44 PM (hLRSq)
Mikey speaks wisdom.
Posted by: Emmie at December 18, 2018 04:02 PM (4HMW8)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:02 PM (444To)
Posted by: Max BOOThole at December 18, 2018 04:02 PM (BqBId)
As a start.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 18, 2018 03:49 PM (ptqGC)
Here's another idea: print on everyone's tax return: "I demand that 100% of my tax dollars go toward the construction of an effective wall on the U.S.-Mexico border."
With a space for a signature. The commie fag cucks that are opposed to the wall can simply leave that space blank. But all the ones that are signed effectively become a taxpayer petition to build the wall.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 04:02 PM (fDU8w)
FIGHT ME.
Posted by: blaster at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (ZfRYq)
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I'd rather point and laugh.
Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 18, 2018 04:02 PM (IlV2p)
What's hilarious is the Law is going after a Trump golf course for immigration violations.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (kyzbF)
But the House has been paying off sexual harassment victims using a slush fund that nobody knew about. And nobody knows what's been paid out. And nobody's going to ever know what's been paid out.
I guess I'm just a man before his time.
Posted by: Dan Rostenkowski at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (hjaPQ)
Nope. There was a vote in the house and it passed. March 20thish. After weeks of 'inside sourxes' saying it wouldn't. Don't rewrite history.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (GvMX3)
A wall is totally meaningless without interior enforcement and without the ability to seriously militarize the area. Of course, if we could militarize the border area (as a national border with a country that has been committing acts of war against us for decades) then we wouldn't need a physical wall, anyway.
I don't care much for the wall. I care only about interior enforcement and having our border area be treated like the serious border that it is, with aliens and people on the other side having NO RIGHTS, at all. That is how things are supposed to be with the whole nation-state concept.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (ndSD+)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (/rm4P)
Posted by: Regular joe at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (cZlKA)
'Panama' in particular. It just gets you up and banging.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (14URa)
You sure that was sweat?
And I don't get all the Sammy hate. He's got 5 decades of music out there and he's better than 90% of bands out there, IMHO.
Posted by: Sponge at December 18, 2018 04:04 PM (F4u7C)
Posted by: Gonads and Strife at December 18, 2018 03:59 PM (smXDp)
Three words: Crowded Emergency Rooms
Two more words: Underground economy.
Embrace the power of AND. The Border Wall makes it easier to have employer enforcement, which in turn discourages going over or under the Wall.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:04 PM (ujg0T)
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Hey for the record I used my own friend's money for my under age hookers in the DR. I have standards after all!
Posted by: Sen Bob Menendez at December 18, 2018 04:04 PM (cRkMZ)
Make it private investment, add a 15% fee to all cash sent back to Mexico to pay it off, with a high interest rate and a big profit for the investors!
Government doesn't have to pay a penny. And people will invest because they will get a pre-determined profit that is essentially backed by the Fed Gov.
Don't want the money transfer fee too high, or the illegals will find a way around it.
Easy - peasy.
Do I get two scoops?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 04:04 PM (UsCnO)
That became clear in 2016 when Trump went to the extreme with his "build the wall" #1 campaign pledge and not one of them budged an inch on the issue. I had (stupidly) assumed that Trump was there to define the extremes, and one of them (Walker, Cruz) would then swoop in with something less extreme and win the nomination.
Nope. No compromise, no movement, just sticking with open borders. It was a revelation for me, to see no one move despite immigration control polling at ~75% (more limits, etc.).
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2018 04:04 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: paleRider at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (eASYU)
PaleRider is perceptive.
Posted by: Emmie at December 18, 2018 04:05 PM (4HMW8)
Absent massive changes to a shit ton of laws which will never get through one let alone both chambers of congress, a wall is the only way to even remotely stop the flow.
And it doesn't look like we are ever getting that wall.
I'm doing serious contemplation of the shape and form of my own personal Benedict Option.
Because shit is going to get real, real soon.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2018 04:05 PM (qxq6t)
We all saw this coming.
The Republicans did this to us. They pushed this deadline 2 weeks to December 21....right before Christmas.
Republicans did this to us and to the president.
But Trump foolishly signed the last CR and believed the Republicans' lies.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:05 PM (kyzbF)
LOL! Nice nic, I remember that bit from back in the day...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 18, 2018 04:05 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:05 PM (/rm4P)
Posted by: Shemp Smith at December 18, 2018 04:06 PM (rr4fE)
Posted by: Ripley at December 18, 2018 04:06 PM (MxEKc)
They don't want to stop it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2018 04:06 PM (CXeIv)
125 Valerie Bertinelli was Van Halen's Yoko Ono.
Except everybody understood why you'd want to bang Valerie.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 04:06 PM (TAmPV)
I say yes.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (RU4sa)
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Yep. This will be his rationale as CiC. A Judge may slow him down, but will not stop him.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 18, 2018 04:06 PM (ffYR/)
David Lee Roth had no voice. But he was a damn good entertainer.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:06 PM (/9p9e)
He has exactly 5 years of being a Passable vocalist. but he is no musician.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:06 PM (444To)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (ndSD+)
Yeah.
I think the biggest single change that would turn our whole immigration situation around immediately would be to lower the amount of due process needed to deport someone.
The left does an amazing job at clogging up immigration courts.
There are two immigration cases involving Chinese nationals that could be overturned that would change that in a second. I forget the case names though.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 18, 2018 04:06 PM (GBteo)
And he still get's re-elected.
Posted by: Hawaian Judge at December 18, 2018 04:06 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (wGbBR)
btw, better prepare yourselves, because after Jan 3rd, we into the 2020 campaign.
And you think 2018 was ugly and evil?
2019 and 2020 will be worse.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (kyzbF)
But honestly, did Trump really think he was going to win this one over the wall?
Democrats would literally sacrifice their own children before they would fund Trump's wall.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (UfkIY)
Who was in the rooms?
A couple of traffic accident victims.
Several "voluntary" detoxes (ok Mr Officer I'd rather go to the hospital then the pokey alright?)
And a whole bunch of....no hablo ingles senior....
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (cRkMZ)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (444To)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (/rm4P)
don't forget "only time will tell if we stand the test of time"
great songwriting right there
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (VckGX)
But, I want that wall built, hasta pronto - and the reason is that the voters who won the election by and large voted for Trump because they damned well DID want that wall.
I am SO sick and tired of our government flatly ignoring the will of the American people. I've had it up to here.^^^
If the wall is possible to build (it is), does not violate the Constitution (it doesn't), and can be paid for (it can), then these people need to suck it up and do their damned jobs whether they like it or not.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (2LelM)
Where is his leverage? Dems control the House in a few weeks. The Trump Agenda is now over. All we can hope for is that he obstructs every bill they pass. Nothing we want is going to get done now. He had two years and has mostly squandered them.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (14URa)
You sure that was sweat?
And I don't get all the Sammy hate. He's got 5 decades of music out there and he's better than 90% of bands out there, IMHO.
Posted by: Sponge at December 18, 2018 04:04 PM (F4u7C)
Maybe it's just me but when he joined Van Halen, the band changed and not for the better. "Why Can't This Be Love" and "Dreams" are not rock and roll. They're easy listening turned up.
If you like easy listening, fine. I let folks like what they want to like. But watching a front line rock band turn into something weak and limp just irritates me.
I know, it's an old story. Happened to Queensryche, to Kenny Loggins, Phil Collins and an infinite number of bands.
I dunno. Rock is a young man's game. Or it was. It's dead now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (UfkIY)
No, they'll sacrifice YOUR children.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (UnA8+)
there was a rumor in the eighties that van halen quit their road show, bought a subaru and followed Peaches around.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:03 PM (MTjB1)
Just when I think I cannot possibly love you more, Y5. lol, I really needed a laugh today.
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (14URa)
don't forget "only time will tell if we stand the test of time"
great songwriting right there
Posted by: brak at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (VckGX)
Ugh. I can sorta taste puke right now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (xJa6I)
all they bring is head lice and woe
#nevergiveuponchristmas #itsawalloflove
Posted by: happyfeet at December 18, 2018 03:46 PM (mLfQi)
............
head lice, woe and Honduran tortillas
Posted by: wth at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (wGbBR)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (cRkMZ)
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And everyone of them has a cell phone.
If I had the chance, I'd enact a $40 per ER visit fee so fast it would make your head spin. Watch those rooms become empty.
Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (IlV2p)
Other than somewhat lower taxes (which will be undone by Dems with the gop's help), Trump jasn't really done much. Yeah Gorsuch. Meh.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (GvMX3)
So no $5 billion for a border wall but Mexico and Guatemala are reportedly getting several times that in foreign aid?
Thanks, GOP!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (/9p9e)
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (nID3z)
***
Presumably you can detain a judge for doing so as you could anyone else interfering in a military operation.
Pretend like it is the Civil War and do what Lincoln did...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (cRkMZ)
half-assed partial fence ...blahblahblahwhinyassblah...
[i/]
I shit my pants,
My pants I shit.
And in my shitted pants I sit.
Posted by: mikeyG at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: Richie Rich at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (U7k5w)
Sammy Hagar was a relentless self-promoter with a barely competent voice. But the song Finish What You Started, is probably the best song the band ever did.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Peaches
You sure that was sweat?
And I don't get all the Sammy hate. He's got 5 decades of music out there and he's better than 90% of bands out there, IMHO.
Posted by: Sponge
You wanna start a fight? Stick up for Gary Cherone.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (AM1GF)
Obama could only progressively progress in areas that didn't concern deep state interests. Trump will not be allowed to MAGA outside of the deep state boundaries as well.
Posted by: human at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (0CeRG)
Posted by: mikeyG at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (LL1Be)
First time I heard that song I thought it was a beer commercial. It so would have worked as one, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Peaches at D
good. since we so rarely run into each other any more, Merry Christmas in case I miss you before then.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (MTjB1)
Look, it's a family matter with me.
When Mexico finally collapses into anarchy and civil war and 20 million Mexicans head for the border, I'm counting on there being someone in those millions willing to come and fuck my niece!
Posted by: Chuck Schumer at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (DuAZ5)
122 My kids are semi fluent in Spanish. So they have that going for them.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (GvMX3)
Time to get them started on Arabic.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:01 PM (UnA8+)
and Chinese. Others here would know which dialect is best.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Snoreregard with a mint julep at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (U7k5w)
You are crazy. Lots of great music being made these days. Just no way for an old guy to find most of it.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (444To)
I'm doing serious contemplation of the shape and form of my own personal Benedict Option.
What is a personal Benedict option? Going to resign so somebody else can take over?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (AllCR)
Tell me you can read that and think Trump, even without the wall, wasn't a better choice for us.
But I still want my flucking wall.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (37IEG)
Where is his leverage? Dems control the House in a few weeks. The Trump Agenda is now over. All we can hope for is that he obstructs every bill they pass. Nothing we want is going to get done now. He had two years and has mostly squandered them.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (CQ3Qb)
lol
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (xJa6I)
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Nah. It's just not popular. I listen to all kinds of heavy and metal riffs, new stuff coming out all the time on Spotify.
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (bQtop)
The most famous example of this was candidate John "Build The Dang Fence!" McCain, but there are certainly many others.
Posted by: Mike at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (c056A)
Yeah but you're all missing the point:
Van Halen sucked.
They sucked a little less with Roth.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 03:56 PM (kyzbF)
Might as well Jump.
Go ahead and Jump.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (37IEG)
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I have to agree.
Posted by: Satan at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (vDqXW)
That's why he barely sings. Mostly talks.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (444To)
Lou Reed made a whole career out of talking through songs.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (P4Pk9)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (gI6+S)
Posted by: Snoreregard with a mint julep at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (xJa6I)
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Nah. It's just not popular. I listen to all kinds of heavy and metal riffs, new stuff coming out all the time on Spotify.
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (vDqXW)
Are there new rock bands? Spill, man. I haven't heard anything I consider Rock except MAYBE the Killers...and they have a heavy dose of Queen in their DNA.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Burger Chef at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (RuIsu)
c'mon team!
These pants are not gonna shit themselves.
Posted by: mikeyG at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (gI6+S)
Posted by: Every man in Mexico at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (cRkMZ)
Sorry, there will be no wall.
Look, it's a family matter with me.
When Mexico finally collapses into anarchy and civil war and 20
million Mexicans head for the border, I'm counting on there being
someone in those millions willing to come and fuck my niece!
Posted by: Chuck Schumer at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (DuAZ5)
Gawd! Get a clue! Read the memo Unca Chuck!
I'm NOT going to be super fuckable any more! I'm just not!
Posted by: Amy Scummer at December 18, 2018 04:13 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2018 04:13 PM (WTBaJ)
The universe never ceases to amaze me. If yesterday someone had said there was a relationship between the tune 'Baby it's Cold Outside' and the Muslim Brotherhood, and subsequently Al Qaeda, then planes attacking the World Trade Center and the Pentagon I'd suggest they seek mental health authorities.
Today, I'd applaud them for being well informed.
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 18, 2018 04:13 PM (jYje5)
Posted by: kraken at December 18, 2018 04:13 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Snoreregard with a mint julep at December 18, 2018 04:13 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (xJa6I)
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Try Haken or Soen.
Posted by: Satan at December 18, 2018 04:13 PM (vDqXW)
You are crazy. Lots of great music being made these days. Just no way for an old guy to find most of it.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (444To)
CRAZY FROM THE HEAT!
Yeah, I am old though. Probably born old.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:13 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (CQ3Qb)
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You have watched what he has done for 2 years and you can say that with a straight face? Good grief.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 18, 2018 04:13 PM (ffYR/)
Posted by: Jim Rose at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (VFl7m)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (wGbBR)
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Got two conservative SCOTUS judges and a tax cut. Don't underestimate how big a deal getting Gorsuch and Kavanaugh on the court was. Just imagine he gets a third.
I do think he's moved the overtone window on immigration and the wall. It used to be ignored by the political class. No more.
Posted by: WisRich at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (gI6+S)
The first Hagar Halen came out at a great time in my life and "Love Comes Walking In" reminds me of a lady I had a very brief but intense summer romance with.
Sigh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (/9p9e)
Posted by: Satan at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (vDqXW)
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You suck.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (RU4sa)
That was one of the job qualifications for being Satan.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (37IEG)
I hate Metal.
ESPECIALLY the shit (emphasis on "shit") with the Death Grunts.
Instrumental Post-Metal, on the other hand...
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (J+mig)
There you go! Make "gifts to the USA" a 100% Federal tax credit. Then set up a "Border Wall Fund" to receive such "gifts" from taxpayers. All taxpayers who want a wall simply calculate their tax owing, and make a gift of that amount to the Border Wall Fund. And wind up getting a hefty tax refund, to offset the cost of the gift.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (fDU8w)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at D
what do you mean where is the leverage? he does a deal with the democrats.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (MTjB1)
I missed Peaches? Dammit!
Also, a $5 copay for an ED would empty them out so fast your head would spin off...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (rr4fE)
Posted by: Jim Rose at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (VFl7m)
More Arthur. Less Jim...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (/9p9e)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (MTjB1)
Merry Christmas to you and yours, Y5! I'll be around. All my friends are 2000 miles away and my sis is heading to Taipei tomorrow. Just me and the FOs here. Oh, yeah, and Steve Vai was there, too. He was pretty good on that guitar.
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (14URa)
Posted by: Chuck Schumer
Jobs American's won't do.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (5KWnQ)
And I don't get all the Sammy hate. He's got 5 decades of music out there and he's better than 90% of bands out there, IMHO.
Posted by: Sponge at December 18, 2018 04:04 PM (F4u7C)
Cabo Wabo.
It's a tequila, AND a bar owned (formerly owned?) by Sammy Hagar in Los Cabos .
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (xJa6I)
With this, I agree.
When Rolling Stone (I know I know) came out and said that No Doubt was the future of rock and roll, I knew it was dead forever more.
Posted by: Sponge at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (F4u7C)
Posted by: kraken at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (90T4r)
Serious question. What big wins has Trump had. I will give him tax cuts. Other than that? And I don't mean stuff like deregulation or judges. I mean a big battle with Dems where he ended up getting what he wanted passed.
I honestly don't think such a thing exists.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (GvMX3)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (zO1cf)
ESPECIALLY the shit (emphasis on "shit") with the Death Grunts.
Instrumental Post-Metal, on the other hand...
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (UnA8+)
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I like metal, except for screamo and death growls--metal didn't start out with growling.
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (vDqXW)
what do you mean where is the leverage? he does a deal with the democrats.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (MTjB1)
Like all the previous deals done with the Democrats to secure the border?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (37IEG)
His leverage is that he's making the Democrats define their position to the voters. The majority of Americans do want some form of border security. So if not a wall, what are Democrats proposing? Nothing? Well, they've defined their position.
I can't wait for them to propose strict gun control laws and higher taxes.
Posted by: Mike at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (c056A)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (RU4sa)
Look, it's a family matter with me.
When Mexico finally collapses into anarchy and civil war and 20 million Mexicans head for the border, I'm counting on there being someone in those millions willing to come and fuck my niece!
Posted by: Chuck Schumer at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (DuAZ5)
Mexican dykes doing the job that American dykes won't?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (UnA8+)
I think you're turning Japanese . . .
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (14URa)
Which causes more SJW aneurisms: Lou Reed's "Walk on the Wild Side" or the Kinks' "Lola"?
Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (WTBaJ)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (444To)
Posted by: Ripley at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Snoreregard with a mint julep at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (U7k5w)
Proof you can never go back in time.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (UsCnO)
Haven't watched either, and won't. Those shows were vehicles for their stars. No star? No vehicle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (fDU8w)
Black Keys, Kaleo, The Record Company... some others ain't coming to mind right away.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
__________
Yep
Obviously I blame Paul Ryan, but Trump could have vetoed some bills until he got what he wanted.
He really thought he was going to have all branches of government forever.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (AllCR)
Says the queen of lousy metaphors.
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (U5tDi)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (/rm4P)
We citizens had a nice run, but rulers gotta rule!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (f3oO4)
Posted by: WisRich at December 18, 2018 04:14 PM (G0vdT)
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Gorsuch, yes. Not as sure about Kavanaugh. Trump might have thrown the Dems into the brier patch.
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (vDqXW)
We are in the same position today that we have been in for the last two years. The results of the last election don't kick in until next month.
We still need 60 votes in the Senate.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (/tuJf)
Sad.
He used to be funny.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Golfman at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (AXniC)
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (vDqXW)
Spotify is great.
I think the problem is the audience and the market is made up of a million pieces. What I mean is, back when radio was king, they cherry-picked the most commercial songs and that's what listeners got--and out of those songs, some songs became hits that everybody knows. Now you can get literally all kinds of music, but it's tougher for anything to make a dent in the public consciousness.
Similar with TV. Back in the '70's, you watched The Six Million Dollar Man or Happy Days --AND SO DID EVERYONE ELSE AT SCHOOL. Today, there's a zillion things to watch.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (GvMX3)
Anything not covered by appropriation from Congress would fall instantly as an Anti-Deficiency Act violation.
The alternative there is to "reprogram" appropriated funds. Been a while, not sure exactly what the limits on that are, or whether congressional approval/acquiescence is required, or at what level (used to be funding below a certain number could be reprogrammed, within activities covered by the same appropriations bill, with just notification).
Beyond those almost certain game-stoppers, there's the fact that (like most of Trump's accomplishments so far) any project done through fiat could be stopped within 15 seconds by the next president. And though such concepts really do seem completely quaint and irrelevant now, it would stink of illegitimacy (major political issue where a president cannot get Congress to agree, so he does it anyway), which would make ending/reversing it later politically much easier.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (J+mig)
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I like a lot of Paolo Nutini's jams. And yes his name is actually Paolo.
But rock and metal have really fallen on hard times.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: wth at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (HgMAr)
173 Democrats would literally sacrifice their own children before they would fund Trump's wall.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:07 PM (UfkIY)
No, they'll sacrifice YOUR children.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:08 PM (UnA8+)
they've already started.
Posted by: Kate Steinle's parents at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (UsCnO)
His leverage is that he's making the Democrats define their position to the voters. The majority of Americans do want some form of border security. So if not a wall, what are Democrats proposing? Nothing? Well, they've defined their position.
I can't wait for them to propose strict gun control laws and higher taxes.
Posted by: Mike at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (c056A)
Then wouldn't it have made more sense to have forced the democrats to take this position back in May?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (CXeIv)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (bQtop)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (444To)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at D
like all the previous deal making Trump has done throughout his career. working a deal with the democrats will be a lot easier than doing one with the ryan republicans who were only interested in having new soiled sheets to lick clean ever evening.
you hate me I hate you lets do a deal.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (Evws/)
However, they both replaced right-right leaning justices. Until we get one of theirs and move things to the right, it wont make a huge difference.
Still, judges have been a great thing. What about the rest? Trump has been fought on every other thing, and much of his accomplishments can be changed via executive action.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (wGbBR)
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (vDqXW)
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I'll give you that. We'll see how he measures up at the end of the term.
Posted by: WisRich at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (G0vdT)
Serious question. What big wins has Trump had. I will give him tax cuts. Other than that? And I don't mean stuff like deregulation or judges. I mean a big battle with Dems where he ended up getting what he wanted passed.
I honestly don't think such a thing exists.
by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (GvMX3)
So Kavanaugh wasn't a big battle with the democrats?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (14URa)
The ad for a lawsuit against the diabeetus drug Invokana was just on.
Genital Gangrene??
Genital amputation? Because of Invokana?
Yeah, okay, lawyers.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (kyzbF)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
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Yep
Obviously I blame Paul Ryan, but Trump could have vetoed some bills until he got what he wanted.
He really thought he was going to have all branches of government forever.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (UfkIY)
The failure of the last two years, IMHO is ALL on the GOP. Trump has done incredibly good things both from a policy standpoint via the EO and of course tax reform, and at least Gorsuch, as well as the intangible of overturning the tables of the moneychangers in the DC temple and exposing the corruption for all to see. That hopefully starts the process that changes things. By however that happens.
But Trump has been singularly magnificent by himself.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (/9p9e)
Tell me you can read that and think Trump, even without the wall, wasn't a better choice for us.
But I still want my flucking wall.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:11 PM (37IEG)
Of course he was the better choice. But what about 2020 now? What's going to drive his turnout for reelection? I fear the Dem nominee is going to be worse than Clinton (if not her again) and nothing will stop Dem turnout.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (AzW6q)
Just like America.
Rock is our soul and essence.
Metal is our fire.
Both are in danger of being extinguished.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Clock Boy at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Ugh the Caveman at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (HgMAr)
Proof you can never go back in time.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (UsCnO)
Haven't watched either, and won't. Those shows were vehicles for their stars. No star? No vehicle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (fDU8w)
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*fistbump*
BTW, the turntable has met my expectations.
Decent sound, bass, and treble.
Phono not as much as CD and bluetooth. Forgotten how much I've missed listening to vinyls, though.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:20 PM (RU4sa)
For God's sake PLEASE build the wall! My GF's family are sucking me dry! I pawned my car to buy the MIL a boob job, and she's 76! I have to eat steak nearly raw 'cause I can't afford to leave the stove on! PLEASE!
Posted by: Chem Jeffy at December 18, 2018 04:20 PM (rr4fE)
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (vDqXW)
Have you ever listened to Opeth? They started with death metal growling and have turned themselves into a very creative progressive metal outfit. They've put out some really fine music.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:20 PM (NFEMn)
Mike
Those positions are popular with immigrants. The Dems will never, ever, ever agree to anything that even slows down the immigrant flow, that's how they are turning the country blue. Look, the Dems were willing to LOSE THEIR MAJORITY to try and socialize healthcare, figuring once people got free shit it would never be undone -- and they were absolutely right. Unlike the GOPe, the Dems are committed to moving the country left.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 18, 2018 04:20 PM (5KWnQ)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (bQtop)
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Motorhead forever.
But, a fun fact: Lemmy always said Motorhead wasn't metal... but punk/hard rock. I don't think any of his fans agreed on that point, but whatever.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:20 PM (AzW6q)
In a perverse way you're right. I think Trump could get more stuff done with Pelosi than Ryan. But that stuff may be horrifying.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:20 PM (GvMX3)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:12 PM (NFEMn)
it was Holly from FLA that made us pay and pay.
Posted by: Kate Steinle's parents at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM (UsCnO)
I guess there are licit ones then?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM (0tfLf)
He made the show, and I saw why.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM (RU4sa)
Rock is our soul and essence.
Metal is our fire.
Both are in danger of being extinguished.
Posted by: Cato
Zamfir and the Pan Flute FTW!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM (xzezz)
December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (f3oO4)
Don't have Alexa, Don't do Twitter. Don't have FB. They can surely come find me, but I won't make it incredibly easy for them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM (AllCR)
Trump should have stopped that shit cold, but he was scared to death of a government shutdown.
Also, why couldn't Trump have just said WE are building the wall instead of his stupid promise Mexico would pay for it.?
Trump should just park the military on the border as Plan B.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM (UfkIY)
I honestly don't think such a thing exists.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:15 PM (GvMX3)
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You are deliberately excluding two of his biggest accomplishments. Seating Kav and Gorsuch was going directly head to head with Dems and winning.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (ffYR/)
Then wouldn't it have made more sense to have forced the democrats to take this position back in May?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (CXeIv)
He's in a stronger position now than he was in May.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (/rm4P)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:20 PM (NFEMn)
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Yes, Opeth is quite good. I've even stretched to mix in some of their earlier growly stuff. Anyway, Symphony X growls some too. Heck, Portnoy used to growl some for Dream Theater.
But in general, I don't like growls.
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Chem Jeffy at December 18, 2018 04:20 PM (rr4fE)
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LOL!
Shame...
On me for laughing.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (RU4sa)
Serious question. What big wins has Trump had. I will give him tax
cuts. Other than that? And I don't mean stuff like deregulation or
judges. I mean a big battle with Dems where he ended up getting what he
wanted passed.
Some of you people want an American President.
Some of you want an Emperor.
Posted by: mikeyG at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (AzW6q)
Zamfir and the Pan Flute FTW!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM (xzezz)
"Pfft!"
- - Charlie Puleo
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (/9p9e)
What would you have suggested he do? Nothing has changed in any relevant way as to the number of votes in either the House or the Senate yet.
So go ahead, tell me what you want and I'll pretend I'm Chuck Schumer and I control the Democrats in the Senate. You need at least 8 votes from me.
So tell me what you want. Just remember the answer is always going to be NO if it in any way benefits you.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: kraken at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (vDqXW)
I would make an exception for the late Lemmy Kilminster's growling.
The Cookie Monster growling of some USA metal bands, or worse, the Popeye the Sailor growling of Norwegian metal bands, on the other hand......
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM
Dude. We're playing the Super Bowl!!!
Posted by: Maroon 5 at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Cartman at December 18, 2018 04:23 PM (rr4fE)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:23 PM (RU4sa)
But now that I'm legit old...I'm kinda liking it. Motorhead, Iron Maiden, early Sabbath, Sabaton, Rammstein.
I partly blame/credit Razorfist for that, but I do appreciate talented guitar work. That's what really gets me, I think. Screaming and growling gets old fast. Unless it's in German. Then it's hilarious.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:23 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:23 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Snoreregard with a mint julep at December 18, 2018 04:23 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2018 04:23 PM (CXeIv)
I fail to see why this has to be different if need be.
But for God's sake, don't read the fucking internet history of it -
"the world" raised the funds.
And when they went to build the pedestal they discovered unexpected vaults
where it was to be built that were meant as fortification against "tanks and bombs" - in 1884.
I just can't.....my God,why are we bothering to try and save these fucking ignorant savages?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:23 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Neil Gorsuch at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (vDqXW)
He made the show, and I saw why.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM (RU4sa)
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😍 😍 😍 😍
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (U5tDi)
I can't wait for them to propose strict gun control laws and higher taxes.
Posted by: Mike at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (c056A)
Has anyone on Earth ever doubted those are the Dems positions? They campaign on them.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (CQ3Qb)
To be honest, as much as I hate the way our borders are dealt with I am highly unlikely to be directly impacted. There just aren't that many illegals running around in my hood.
If those who have to live with this shit, and in California I mean that literally, won't support using tax dollars to protect their homes and they want to live with the gangs, the drugs, the disease and poverty that it brings to their neighborhoods then have at it.
But I'm not setting up a second tax system to pay for stuff the government already gets plenty of my money for.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2018 03:54 PM (/tuJf)
The irony burns. Once you have the problem, it becomes immensely more difficult to fix it. Those illegals and their citizen offspring, become a voting base that brings in more of them. So, Jack, go ahead and keep dreaming that this isn't going to effect you. And don't cry when they vote to raise your taxes. But, hey, it's not your problem.
Posted by: Q Anon at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (J70i0)
Some of you want an Emperor.
Posted by: mikeyG at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (LL1Be)
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I want to be left alone.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:23 PM (RU4sa)
I also dig that.
Sly and the Family Stone. Isaac Hayes. Parliament. Good stuff.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (xJa6I)
Until it can no longer be paid for.
Then we get Venezuela with the appropriate reprisals.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (xzezz)
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (14URa)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:20 PM (AzW6q)
Eh, I can kind of see it.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Kenny G at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (ctuyM)
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I imagine when the deep state tries to murder you....fails....gets caught....and tells you next time they won't fail....that it might have an affect on a man.
Speaking of which...has Trump even asked the FBI to look into the Seth Rich assassination?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:24 PM (cRkMZ)
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:21 PM (UfkIY)
Close every non-Naval military base in the CONUS.
Eminent domain a 1-mile wide strip along the whole length of the border. Clear all existing structures.
Make that the Great American Military Reservation. Build bases to suit, and wall the Mexico side.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (J+mig)
Trump blocked Hillary. That's worth a ton.
First Amendment, Second Amendment, Fourth Amendment, Supreme Court.
You think Hillary Clinton wouldn't have had her way with those?
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (jYje5)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:10 PM (444To)
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If "Imagine Dragon" is you youngins version of "rock", well...... you young guys suck.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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I definitely think his heart is in the right place, but he just never seems to have a plan and expects everyone to bend to his will. It's just not going to happen.
But obviously I blame GOP leadership, but anyone should have seen that a mile away. The entire campaign the GOP leadership was trying to get Hillary elected.
Trump should have said first 100 days I get my wall or you GOPe whores don't get your corporate tax cuts.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:19 PM (/9p9e)
He's pretty much flying solo, no doubt. Who do you honestly think he can trust at this point ?
What a shitty, shitty situation.
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (axaxF)
Shit. Applebee's wants me to order or GTFO.
Posted by: cumjeff at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 04:02 PM (14URa)
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I agree w/ all of that.
If anyone out there sees someone better than Trump, you'd better speak up.
Posted by: dDan at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (hwYmz)
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So is gangsta rap. I remember on my 23rd birthday, one of my brothers was trying to bang this hippie chick, and invited her and all her hippie friends to have a drum circle. In my home. On my birthday. I poured a glass of cognac, lit a cigar, and put on some of the nastiest shit I had. Hippies were gone in 15 minutes.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (AzW6q)
He made the show, and I saw why.
Posted by: SMH at D
you know it is funny how two people have such different takes on the same event. Tom Selleck tells people he met SMH when she was a kid, even then it was obvious she was going to grow up to be hot and shoot guns.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (/rm4P)
True. If I am to be ruled by one unelected old man I'd prefer a Caesar to the Hon. Buch M. Danno.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (CXeIv)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (NFEMn)
To be honest, as much as I hate the way our borders are dealt with I am highly unlikely to be directly impacted. There just aren't that many illegals running around in my hood.
Yet
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (bQtop)
It was his central issue in the first campaign. It would be tough to deal with the cynicism that will come of it being the core of a second campaign but--honestly I'll still vote for the candidate that at least says they want one, what with binary choices and all.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Snoreregard with a mint julep at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Maroon 5 at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (ctuyM)
Only because literally EVERY OTHER MUSIC ACT turned it down in solidarity with Krapperdick.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (UnA8+)
I saw Jim Treacher sucking cocks to get backstage at a Sammy Hagar concert at Six Flags back in 08!
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:18 PM (444To)
no, that was Cory Booker.
that line was long.
Posted by: Kate Steinle's parents at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (UsCnO)
You need a copy of Soul Slabs Vol I. (Colemine Records).
Modern throwback funk/soul bands. Killer. Not a bad track on that 2 x LP sampler.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (YBVcA)
Posted by: rickb223
Sigh. You are right, we get Venezuela, but that means we get a commie dictatorship of some sort, and they are gleefully willing to starve people for decades before they go down. Look at Cuba.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (5KWnQ)
Posted by: Maroon 5 at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (ctuyM)
Dude. You suck harder than a Dyson.
Posted by: Sponge at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (F4u7C)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (37IEG)
Kevin McCarthy is eager to become Failure Theater's new star.
The only upside to McCarthy is he'll probably lose his seat in 2020.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (kyzbF)
I hate you more!
I hate the republican cucks most!
Me too! Lets legislate this bitch!
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (MTjB1)
Swooning does not become you.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (0tfLf)
Some of you want an Emperor.
***
The value of representative government is that over the long term it has proven to be the form of government that best represents and protects our God given rights.
But it has no value in and off itself - and people that fetishize democracy should really, really think about that.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (cRkMZ)
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (nID3z)
He's made himself a billionaire three times over because he doesn't have a plan.
Yeah. Right.
More like crazy like a fox.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (xzezz)
I hope the SJW types get a listen to the Maroon Five song 'Brick' in the next couple of weeks.
It's about as anti-abortion as they get.
They call her name at seven thirty
I pace around the parking lot
Then I walk down to buy her flowers
And sell some gifts that I got
...snip...
As weeks went by
It showed that she was not fine
They told me son it's time to tell the truth
She broke down and I broke down
'Cause I was tired of lying
Driving home to her apartment
For the moment we're alone
She's alone
I'm alone
Now I know it
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (jYje5)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (MTjB1)
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LOL!
That is sweet of you.
Thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (bQtop)
Lady Liberty was a gift from France, the pedestal was built by donations
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (bQtop)
Sorry, yes.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (U5tDi)
And "internal enforcement" doesn't even address everything. Barring a level of enforcement that is unlikely to inconceivable, *even magically assuming* "sanctuary" lawlessness is eliminated (um, it's expanding).
But observing even this crowd discuss the topic perfectly illustrates exactly how we got here. Doesn't affect me directly/tomorrow (this is behind many ills, including the continuation of the O-care disaster). Oh, I'll take this vs. that (this and that BOTH are needed, and easily accomplished if the effort were made).
And pooh-poohing the darkest forecasts on this situation ignores reality. Last month was the record for illegal migrant families exploiting what is essentially a fake-asylum Golden Ticket to illegal migration. The "Trump effect" disappeared from general illegal cross-border activity months ago. There will be no asylum law fix (there MIGHT be a judicial fix for the absurd ruling blocking implementation of Trump's emergency regulatory fix). There will be no real barrier where there isn't already. Mexico clearly got their USMCA without being forced to make a deal on illegal mass migration.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (p0nVR)
Posted by: Max BOOThole at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (xjiRE)
Two great tastes that go great together.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (CXeIv)
True. If I am to be ruled by one unelected old man I'd prefer a Caesar to the Hon. Buch M. Danno.
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I wasn't going to mention that yet but oh what the hell.
As of next week I'll officially be a woman so...there you h8ters!
Posted by: Hon. Belinda M. Danno at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (cRkMZ)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (kyzbF)
Don't get burned. You still haven't answered why I should pay a premium to get what the very generous amount of money I already give to DC doesn't get me.
Or course it's a problem that affects all of us and I said I wanted them to deal with it. They've only had 50 fucking years. But no, the answer is not for me to pay more while others continue not to pay even basic taxes but are content to live under the umbrella of safety and services that those of us who do pay taxes already pay for.
If you want to fund the wall on your own, have at it. Maybe next you can chip in a few dollars to pay for the other things you want your tax dollars to be used for but aren't. We could make a list.
That's not irony. That's stupidity.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: kraken at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Total Control Racist at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: Axeman at December 18, 2018 04:17 PM (vDqXW)
But then WHY did the Commiecrats go to such lengths to smear him? To me that is the True Sign of A Good Justice. See Thomas, Clarence.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (ujg0T)
And so I did.
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (axaxF)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM
Ahem. Let me be clear, I believe *I* was the one who first brought this up in public discourse a few weeks ago.
Credit where credit is due, please.
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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I definitely think his heart is in the right place, but he just never seems to have a plan and expects everyone to bend to his will. It's just not going to happen.
But obviously I blame GOP leadership, but anyone should have seen that a mile away. The entire campaign the GOP leadership was trying to get Hillary elected.
Trump should have said first 100 days I get my wall or you GOPe whores don't get your corporate tax cuts.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:25 PM (UfkIY)
For a guy allegedly with no plan, look what he did. His dismantling of dozens or hundreds of bureaucratic regs alone is golden.
He's no dope and his plan was border security, national security and setting the economic engine free from the bureaucratic tyranny.
He was sabotaged by the GOP as well as the Deep Staters and even big billionaires and Wall Street intentionally taking it in the shorts to screw the economy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (/9p9e)
But I'm not setting up a second tax system to pay for stuff the government already gets plenty of my money for.
Posted by: JackStraw
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It's just political posturing because otherwise the Democrats would have to admit they want to be invaded if they didn't bring up the budget nonsense.
But good to know if it's not up in your face, it's not your problem. Believe me, illegals don't stay near the border once they get in.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (UfkIY)
Swooning does not become you.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (0tfLf)
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Yikes. Looks like I have to adjust the post-it note over my computer's camera again.
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (U5tDi)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (kyzbF)
I will donate 500 bucks to whoever primaries that piece of shit and to the Democrat if necessary to get rid of that shit bird.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (qxq6t)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (/rm4P)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (TAmPV)
Is that a joke? Good lord.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
What we HAVE is a kelptocracy. If it takes an Emperor to resolve that, if it takes Purge Night to resolve that, I'll take it over this continued one-party rule. Let my tyrants be open tyrants, who rule by open force and let us choose sides and fight, win or die.
I'm tired of the lies and the corruption and the diseased sodomy that's been inflicted on the body politic.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 04:16 PM (fDU8w)
The original Hawaii Five Oh had an incredible lifespan for a TV series--almost Gunsmoke or Law and Order long.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (cRkMZ)
Exactly that. Representative government is a means to an end, and the end is protecting the rights of the people.
If it fails that duty, it has no redeeming value, as the nation will already be under some form of tyranny.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (J+mig)
You want a good anti-abortion song?
"From Womb to Waste" by Dying Fetus.
"The Unseen" by Geto Boys.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (AzW6q)
346
Lady Liberty was a gift from France, the pedestal was built by donations
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (bQtop)
Sorry, yes.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (37IEG)
I got so pissed at discovering "the world" did it and that they discovered old fortifications on the island that weren't on the 'plans' that were built to protect people from flucking TANKS (and they probably thought the bombs were delivered by plane, but I can't be sure of that) in 1884.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (kyzbF)
Flamewar!
Posted by: Peaches at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (14URa)
I think Still Life might just be the best metal album of the past 30 years. Blackwater Park is up there too.
Damnation is good, but being mellowed out all the way through it's an outlier during that period of their career.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (t2P6q)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (GvMX3)
The original Hawaii Five Oh had an incredible lifespan for a TV series--almost Gunsmoke or Law and Order long.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (ujg0T)
10 year run, IIRC 68-78.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (/9p9e)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (RU4sa)
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I don't know, SMH - if I had met Tom Selleck back when he was filming Hawaii Five-O, I think I would have gone wobbly in the knees.
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (U5tDi)
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (/rm4P)
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"Ten Years After" comes to mind.
After that???
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: wth at December 18, 2018 04:09 PM (HgMAr)
And exotic ticks and mosquitoes, and e. coli and cyclospora. Don't forget the cyclospora.
Posted by: Chuck Schumer at December 18, 2018 04:32 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:32 PM (kyzbF)
It's them transferring the profits from all suckers into their bank accounts.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 18, 2018 04:32 PM (1ISKN)
I'm telling ya, Big Band is making a comeback!!!
*taps fingers on desk with clarinet sitting near by*
Posted by: Diogenes at December 18, 2018 04:32 PM (0tfLf)
It's a miracle it's gone as well as it has.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 18, 2018 04:32 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (RU4sa)
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I don't know, SMH - if I had met Tom Selleck back when he was filming Hawaii Five-O, I think I would have gone wobbly in the knees.
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (U5tDi)
Um, Selleck was not on that show. He did Magnum PI in the early 80s.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:32 PM (/9p9e)
done. Unfortunately that means the solutions will be a lot more painful
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Unfortunately our current elite are intent on using the same solutions communist Yugolsavia used.
I'm sure they'll work just as well too...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (cRkMZ)
But then WHY did the Commiecrats go to such lengths to smear him? To me that is the True Sign of A Good Justice. See Thomas, Clarence.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (ujg0T)
I see your point and it I hope it holds. But it is possible that the Dems lost their shit because they lose their shit with everything Trump does or proposes.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (NFEMn)
And so I did.
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:29 PM (axaxF)
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rofl
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: kraken at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (90T4r)
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Werent they that weird Aussie band from the 80's??
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: mikeyG at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (LL1Be)
You want a good anti-abortion song?
"From Womb to Waste" by Dying Fetus.
"The Unseen" by Geto Boys.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (AzW6q)
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Legal Kill by King's X
Posted by: TexasDan at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (yL25O)
It's them transferring the profits from all suckers into their bank accounts.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at D
that is not how it works.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (xJa6I)
The judges alone. Had Hillary gotten 2 SC nominations (plus all the other federal judges) our country would be done.
The tax cut was nice as well (but bungled somewhat as a giveaway to the MegaCorps) should have been bigger and targeted to small business and individuals instead of a temporary cut for us but a permanent cut for Google and Facebook.
I just knew we'd have 2 years and Paul Ryan would fuck it up, and I wasn't disappointed. If i could see this a mile away, why didn't Trump?
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (UfkIY)
She is thinking of Stacey Keech.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (YBVcA)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (nID3z)
Dude. We're playing the Super Bowl!!!
Posted by: Maroon 5 at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (ctuyM)
The ironic thing is that the decrease in watching the NFL, and the decrease in attendance at games, will eventually mean the salary cap will peak, and then decrease. Ratings are still down around 20% from 2 years ago, and many stadiums are half-empty or worse, with a quarter of the regular season to go.
All the SJW performers are boycotting this year's halftime, because of "kneeling".
Thus, accelerating the time when the players will lose money.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (UsCnO)
Since my spine removal operation I am no longer cock curious.
Plus, I can now lick my own bunghole!
I recommend it. The spine removal, not licking my bunghole. Although...
Posted by: Cock Curious Cuck Cruise Captain Crystol at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (rr4fE)
I'm telling ya, Big Band is making a comeback!!!
*taps fingers on desk with clarinet sitting near by*
Posted by: Diogenes at December 18, 2018 04:32 PM (0tfLf)
You have to give rock some credit. The rock era outlasted the Big Band era by a factor of 10.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (NFEMn)
Only the suckers are left holding shares.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (1ISKN)
And for the most part, going scorched earth never really does any damage to them.
So why not turn it up to 11 on every damn thing.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (qxq6t)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM
ISWYDT.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (ctuyM)
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Instruct the Army to start building the wall.
Close a number of over seas bases and build new ones along the border.
Get serious about identity theft (used by illegals).
All of which he can do whenever he feels he wants to.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (cRkMZ)
I'm just happy there are good people like you who will fund things above any beyond your tax dollars.
Some of you are whining that Trump is folding by not demanding government do it's damn job and then turning right around and saying, no bother, we'll just pay for it ourselves. Exactly who is folding?
Yea, I can't see any problem with going that route. We need a couple more nuclear subs. When will that GoFundMe page be set up?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (/tuJf)
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Well, I don't expect it... but I'd be absolutely fine with that outcome.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: bluebell at D
(long slow whistle)
that is not an easy mistake to make.
may be a first for the entire internets.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 18, 2018 04:00 PM (GvMX3)
Why couldn't France or Germany have colonized Central America? I hate the sound of Spanish, it's ugly to my ears. And if Germany had colonized it, there'd probably be a net migration of Americans there, due to its vibrant economy. Maybe I need to attempt an alternate history thingy.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (/qEW2)
I don't care if PDT steals it from the Presidential Stash, or anywhere else.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (mfOi4)
Did the "historical entrant" win mister-ish universe?
Posted by: Downcast at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (HpxN/)
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (U5tDi)
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I was 13 or so...major tomboy phase.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (RU4sa)
I'm telling ya, Big Band is making a comeback!!!
Christian McBride did a Big band album not too far back. Great stuff.
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (YBVcA)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM
Maroon Five =!= Ben Folds Five.
Noted. Shit. I gotta reformat my brain now.
We gotta do something about the math in this here blog.
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (jYje5)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (RU4sa)
I though he played keyboards in Deep Purple.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: rickb223
Sigh. You are right, we get Venezuela, but that means we get a commie dictatorship of some sort, and they are gleefully willing to starve people for decades before they go down. Look at Cuba.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 18, 2018 04:27 PM (5KWnQ)
Embrace the Chilean Model, or the Francoist model at worse. I suspect the necessary duration will be shorter.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (ujg0T)
He's in a stronger position now than he was in May. Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 04:22 PM (TAmPV)
Is that a joke? Good lord.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
No mister we're all going to die it isn't.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (TAmPV)
Jack Lord was in Hawaii 5-0.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (RU4sa)
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We're going to have to talk about the Rockford Files if you guys keep this up.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (yL25O)
I don't care if PDT steals it from the Presidential Stash, or anywhere else.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
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It seems the people willing to push the envelope ultimately get what they want.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (UfkIY)
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Hey we've tried everything!
Male cheerleaders, banning defense, pink ribbons. WHY ISN'T ANY OF THIS WORKING?!?
Posted by: The NFL at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (cRkMZ)
Posted by: kraken
Republic... two wolves and a heavily armed sheep voting on what's for dinner....
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (xzezz)
Posted by: Snoreregard with a mint julep at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Deacon Bleau at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (yScAF)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (mfOi4)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:32 PM (/9p9e)
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Aack. I know that. See how addled just talking about him made me? Tom Selleck. Magnum. Yes. Yes.
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (U5tDi)
Did the "historical entrant" win mister-ish universe?
Posted by: Downcast at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (HpxN/)
No, legit hot Filipina won.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: kraken at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (90T4r)
Sad fact its a rare band that isn't a SJW.
Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (/rm4P)
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"Ten Years After" comes to mind.
After that???
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2018 04:31 PM (8XRCm)
No Cat Scratch Fever? Want to go kill Bambi?
Posted by: Uncle Ted at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (UsCnO)
The Euro's are building their mighty EU army, right? I'm sure they're prepared to deal with Vlad the Retailer.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (/qEW2)
I actually agree with that.
Something about the Spanish language just sounds... dirty. And not in a sexual way, either.
In a "wading through Raw Sewage" sort of way.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (MTjB1)
Fred Dryer, FTW!
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (YBVcA)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (YBVcA)
The only way to catch a doper is when you yourself become a smoker. The surest way to make them bleed is when you bust their ass and steal their weed.
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (axaxF)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (/qEW2)
There are plenty of Germans in Brazil, Argentina and Chile.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (RU4sa)
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Right. The idea of crowdfunding the wall tickles my funny-bone, but at the end of the day it doesn't solve the real problem - the way, way bigger problem than immigration, which is our government openly defying us.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (AzW6q)
I don't care if PDT steals it from the Presidential Stash, or anywhere else.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
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It seems the people willing to push the envelope ultimately get what they want.
Posted by: Blago
Take it from WIC for all I care.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (xzezz)
Posted by: Snoreregard with a mint julep at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (NFEMn)
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That was Molly Bolin
Tommy Bolins sister......
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (8XRCm)
Charlie Brown Heavy Metal Christmas
https://youtu.be/Ni_-u9JPsOk
You're welcome.
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:28 PM (U5tDi)
I will see you the Charlie Brown Heavy Metal Christmas , and raise you the Charlie Brown Punk Rock Christmas, with a touch of reggae thrown in!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIPGtmQFe7g
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (ujg0T)
Jack Lord was in Hawaii 5-0.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM (RU4sa)
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We're going to have to talk about the Rockford Files if you guys keep this up.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (yL25O)
"this is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message."
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:34 PM
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I though he played keyboards in Deep Purple.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM
Hawaii 5-0 --> Deep Purple --> Maroon 5.
Ta Da!
Posted by: Maroon 5 at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (d6PIl)
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Looking at her she appears to be about 95% Spaniard and 5% Philippino....
Posted by: The NFL at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM (cRkMZ)
Did the "historical entrant" win mister-ish universe?
Posted by: Downcast at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (HpxN/)
You mean the female impersonator from Spain? No. A cute chick from the Philippines was the winner.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM (fDU8w)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM (mfOi4)
I'm pretty confident that if Trump ordered the FED to conjure 5 bucks let alone 5 billion for the wall, that the GOP themselves would file articles of impeachment let alone the Democrats.
The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM (qxq6t)
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM (YBVcA)
Posted by: CN at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM (U7k5w)
Something about the Spanish language just sounds... dirty. And not in a sexual way, either.
In a "wading through Raw Sewage" sort of way.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (UnA8+)
Spanish is a beautiful language. But how can I say this? Most of the people coming here do not speak Spanish the way it's meant to be spoken. This is what we hear.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: Total Control Racist at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (z2W2E)
I'll contribute to the Keep Estaban Out Fund.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (37IEG)
A couple days ago, I literally watched TV for the first time in six months (not bragging, kids displaced that chunk of time).
30 seconds in... "genital amputation"
Posted by: wooga at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (WTBaJ)
I'd gladly pay my $83 dollar share. I'm sure my local school district paid some 'aide' that much today to deal one-on-one with some ESL POS.
With more coming, and more aides required in the coming weeks.
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (jYje5)
Posted by: The NFL at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM (cRkMZ)
Pero No Tiene Dong.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (fDU8w)
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Well, Germany wasn't a thing until 1870. One of the smaller pre-German states tried colonization and it failed miserably.
The French tried colonizing all over but they were never consistent enough about it to make it stick in the areas where Spain had major colonies.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (cRkMZ)
Did the "historical entrant" win mister-ish universe?
Posted by: Downcast at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (HpxN/)
No, legit hot Filipina won.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Did they do a Mick Dundee check?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (xzezz)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (8XRCm)
Yet
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 18, 2018 04:26 PM (TAmPV)
You, are lucky.
My hometown went from 75% White 50 years ago, to 65% Hispanic now.
Many many of those illegal, and kids of illegals.
Spanish is the most spoken language in Doctors officers.
You can't get a job unless you are bilingual.
Posted by: Don Q at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (NgKpN)
445 And I would gladly contribute $80, too !
YAASS! Let's do it!!
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (nID3z)
Fred Dryer, FTW!
Posted by: garrett at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (YBVcA)
"Moosie Drier!"
- - Harry Reid
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (/9p9e)
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (axaxF)
Posted by: CN at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 18, 2018 04:37 PM (d6PIl)
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https://fundthewall.com
Currently has raised about $150k.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (ffYR/)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (cRkMZ)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM
¡Sí!
Posted by: Jeb ¡Jeb! (pronounced ¡Heb!) at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (ctuyM)
OAN has been running a video of Schumer on the Senate floor back when he voted for building a wall and curtailing illegal immigration going on and on about how we MUST have border security through a wall and other means, and we must have merit based immigration. He sounds right of Trump in the video. NO one else is running that clip as far as I know, including Tucker, etc.
Once the House ends this session, Trump will not only have the Senate Dems to fight, but he'll have a House that will refuse to fund virtually anything he requests, will not produce a budget, and will simply use CR as political weapons.
I"m not sure why everyone is blaming the GOP for this, other than possibly McConnell for not changing Senate rules to allow for a simple majority. The entire current GOP could vote to fund the wall , and just 1 Democrat in the Senate says no, then it's dead.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (L/94n)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:05 PM (kyzbF)
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I have to consider that Trump is engaging in his own failure theater here.
I'm beginning to have my doubts.
Posted by: MAGA at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (ZIrZb)
445 And I would gladly contribute $80, too !
YAASS! Let's do it!!
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (nID3z)
Can we do a cross promotion with the Moron Cookbook?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (/9p9e)
Posted by: bluebell at December 18, 2018 04:36 PM (U5tDi)
They named larger-sized condoms after that show.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:41 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 18, 2018 04:41 PM (1ISKN)
Posted by: JoeF
Local spanglish vs. Castilian Spanish.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:41 PM (xzezz)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 18, 2018 04:41 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (nID3z)
Shitty Shitty Wang Wang.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 04:41 PM (fDU8w)
How about taking the latest incarnation of Banana Splits Guy out before he shits even more on this thread?
(nID3z)
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 18, 2018 04:42 PM (jYje5)
You couldn't GoFundMe the wall because our Tech Master Overlords would shut it down.
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Yep, 100% rayciss to build a wall.
Oh the one around my house um....historic charm not rayciss at all.
Posted by: Some Tech Oligarch at December 18, 2018 04:42 PM (cRkMZ)
Moron Cookbook donations go to the wall! YAASS!
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:42 PM (nID3z)
I'm not sure if it's a troll or just simply insane but anyway it's silly, ridiculous and becoming a bit tedious.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2018 04:42 PM (qxq6t)
Posted by: Janssen Pharmaceuticals at December 18, 2018 04:42 PM (zO1cf)
The French tried colonizing all over but they
were never consistent enough about it to make it stick in the areas
where Spain had major colonies.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (cRkMZ)
The French? dude - look at how they taught the Vietnamese to use the letters in the alphabet.
NGYUEN = When?
Hell no, it was bad enough in Southeast Asia.
Oh, and for a leettlte bitty time, the French ran Mexico - and that's why we celebrate Cinco De Mayo here in America, but not in Mexico.
Lord.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:42 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: CN at December 18, 2018 04:42 PM (U7k5w)
If Trump kicked in the $5 billion himself, the Democrats would find another way to prevent the wall from being built.
But I'm all for taking away another reason from Democrats for why we can't defend our border but we can defend Koreas border and the rest of the world gets trillions in defense spending.
Had Trump been smart, he should added some sort of 1 cents sales tax to the new NAFTA to pay for border security.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (UfkIY)
Probably a better deterrent too.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (1ISKN)
My hometown went from 75% White 50 years ago, to 65% Hispanic now.
Many many of those illegal, and kids of illegals.
Spanish is the most spoken language in Doctors officers.
You can't get a job unless you are bilingual.
Posted by: Don Q at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (NgKpN)
My daughter lives in Yuma, AZ.
A veritable on-ramp for illegals. Scares me to death.
Posted by: antisocialist at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (2shuf)
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Well, Germany wasn't a thing until 1870. One of the smaller pre-German states tried colonization and it failed miserably.
The French tried colonizing all over but they were never consistent enough about it to make it stick in the areas where Spain had major colonies.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (cRkMZ)
The Frogs did leave their mark on a large swath of Africa, but otherwise, true.
I am reminded of some graffiti I saw on a UC Berkeley restroom. Some idiot/ leftist fals flag troll had written the Naziesque "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!" on a wall, and someone clever wrote below a reply "How about several hundred small princedoms?"
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Burger Chef at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Big swingin Al at December 18, 2018 03:47 PM (U45Mp)
I've seen some speculation that remittances could be taxed via existing regs. I suspect that's being looked at.
Posted by: SDN at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (K9d/B)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (RU4sa)
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We have proposed a plan for the Grand North American Dignity Canal, and the labor is free.
Posted by: Ministry of Social Correction and Conquest of Nature at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (AzW6q)
Did the "historical entrant" win mister-ish universe?
Posted by: Downcast at December 18, 2018 04:35 PM (HpxN/)
No, legit hot Filipina won.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Did they do a Mick Dundee check?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (xzezz)
MMm, now THERE'S a job I'd love to have...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Gritty
Dildo, President Trump is still president. And his approval ratings are good; much higher than Pelosi's and Schumer's.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM (kyzbF)
why we celebrate Cinco De Mayo here in America, but not in Mexico.
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Yeah the French saw an opportunity during the Civil War but as soon as that was over the gig was up for them....
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:44 PM (cRkMZ)
You want a good anti-abortion song?
"From Womb to Waste" by Dying Fetus.
"The Unseen" by Geto Boys.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:30 PM (AzW6q)
...
Legal Kill by King's X
Posted by: TexasDan at December 18, 2018 04:33 PM (yL25O)
No "Silent Scream" By Slayer? I am disappointed.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:44 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: JoeF
Local spanglish vs. Castilian Spanish.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:41 PM (xzezz)
My exposure to Spanish has mostly been Caribbean--Puerto Rican, Dominican--and the way they speak Spanish is very fast and angry sounding....harsh.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:44 PM (NFEMn)
My hometown went from 75% White 50 years ago, to 65% Hispanic now.
Many many of those illegal, and kids of illegals.
Spanish is the most spoken language in Doctors officers.
You can't get a job unless you are bilingual.
Posted by: Don Q at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (NgKpN)
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I live in western North Carolina, historically 95% white. Go to my son's elementary school, at least 1/3rd foreigners.
Posted by: MAGA at December 18, 2018 04:44 PM (ZIrZb)
Posted by: Jen the original
You don't need 60 for budget items. that's been my understanding.
How did we get a trillion dollar tax cut with less than 60?
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:44 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 18, 2018 04:44 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:44 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:45 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:45 PM (axaxF)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:44 PM (ujg0T
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Good call... shame on me!
Posted by: Ministry of Social Correction and Conquest of Nature at December 18, 2018 04:45 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:45 PM (kyzbF)
Posted by: Canada at December 18, 2018 04:46 PM (8XRCm)
elementary school, at least 1/3rd foreigners.
***
Americans stopped having kids.
The new "immigrants" are having fewer then they used to back home too but fewer of "a lot" is more than almost none....
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:46 PM (cRkMZ)
Not my fault the other Dildo chose his name poorly.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:46 PM (kyzbF)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:46 PM (RU4sa)
The whole point is that it was, is and will always be lip service. Any money set aside to build it will go elsewhere. But, great, give them $80.
Posted by: Orson at December 18, 2018 04:46 PM (+CHpG)
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:46 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:47 PM (axaxF)
Once the House ends this session, Trump will not only have the Senate Dems to fight, but he'll have a House that will refuse to fund virtually anything he requests, will not produce a budget, and will simply use CR as political weapons.
I"m not sure why everyone is blaming the GOP for this, other than possibly McConnell for not changing Senate rules to allow for a simple majority. The entire current GOP could vote to fund the wall , and just 1 Democrat in the Senate says no, then it's dead.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 18, 2018 04:40 PM (L/94n)
One America News is the ONE really good cable news network.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:47 PM (ujg0T)
Yep. Somehow, Hazelton, PA is now 40% Hispanic with a median age of 22. Rest of the population: 44 years old.
Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2018 04:47 PM (Ydn2k)
Today wasn't a bad day for us; it just wasn't a good day.
Today should've been a good day for us.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:47 PM (kyzbF)
The Scots should have colonized Mexico. Fuckers would be too busy
trying to learn how to play a sand shot to bother coming here.
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:45 PM (axaxF)
Who can forget that famous pipe tune - "All the Tequila is over the border!"
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:47 PM (axaxF)
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No thanks.
I like having to deal with only a hubby and a cat.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM
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MMm, now THERE'S a job I'd love to have...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 18, 2018 04:43 PM
Back OFF! That job's mine!
Posted by: Shep! at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:47 PM (ujg0T)
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Damn straight. They're too pro-Trump, but they cover more news better than anyone else.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (AzW6q)
The new "immigrants" are having fewer then they used to back home too but fewer of "a lot" is more than almost none....
Posted by: 18-1
__________
We shouldn't have to breed like rabbits to keep our country from being invaded.
The problem is not birth rates, it's Washington DC.
And truthfully, the GOP shares a lot of blame. Reagan's Amnesty in '86 for example.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: MAGA at December 18, 2018 04:44 PM (ZIrZb)
And until that's the situation in the schools where upper-middle class, wine-sipping, college-educated WHITE suburban women send their precious Ethan's and Emily's, nothing serious will be done about immigration.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (NFEMn)
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:49 PM (nID3z)
Posted by: wth at December 18, 2018 04:49 PM (HgMAr)
He needs a Wartime Consigliere.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2018 04:49 PM (CXeIv)
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Da Fuq?!?
Posted by: Canada at December 18, 2018 04:46 PM (8XRCm)
My Canuck in-laws loathe those kind of Froggies and won't travel east of Hull, for the record. :-D
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:49 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: CN at December 18, 2018 04:49 PM (U7k5w)
Facebook is. It's popped up in my timeline numerous times.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:49 PM (xzezz)
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:49 PM (nID3z)
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No way dude. That's forty beejers from your mom we're talking about.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (kyzbF)
I even put on my best work boots for this snazzy little soiree.
Posted by: JayDubWalker at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (axaxF)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 18, 2018 04:49 PM (CXeIv)
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I'd apply for that job.
Posted by: SMH at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Burger Chef at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (RuIsu)
The problem is not birth rates, it's Washington DC.
And truthfully, the GOP shares a lot of blame. Reagan's Amnesty in '86 for example.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (UfkIY)
The Pill+ Abortion+1965 Immigration Act got us to where we are today. I can't be convinced otherwise.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (NFEMn)
******
Ethics complaints against Kavanaugh dismissed because they don't apply to Supreme Court justices | TheHill
+++++
LibTARDS know everything Hahahahahaha
Posted by: Max BOOThole at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (BqBId)
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Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:39 PM (cRkMZ)
Ugh, forgot about Bismarck. That's why I steer clear of the book thread when things trend historical. I'm a history ignoramus.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (/qEW2)
I couldn't afford to.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (xzezz)
The Frogs did leave their mark on a large swath of Africa.
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Da Fuq?!?
Posted by: Canada at December 18, 2018 04:46 PM (8XRCm)
Froggies built the Suez Canal. Screwed up large parts of North Africa.
Allowed Rick to run his cafe in Casablanca
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (37IEG)
They are religiously determined to screw taxpayers and legal citizens at the behest of the Socialists for the Rich aka the Chamber of Commerce.
I'm going to out-Kerplach Kerplach and say not just the GOP but our whole federal government is a useless pile of dogsh*t.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at December 18, 2018 04:51 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: Kitsapbass at December 18, 2018 04:51 PM (sGtp+)
On the package stealing racket, my son is a young cop. The town was getting hit by package thefts so he and a couple of others really focused and caught one. They were then actually able to "turn" that guy, set up a little sting operation, and catch the whole crew of several people.
He was skeptical, though, as to what the court would do even when handed a completely air-tight case.
Posted by: RM at December 18, 2018 04:51 PM (U3LtS)
The problem is not birth rates, it's Washington DC.
And truthfully, the GOP shares a lot of blame. Reagan's Amnesty in '86 for example.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (UfkIY)
We'd be at Zero Population growth if we stopped immigration.
You know, like the GREENS want? so we don't use our resources too fast?
Why do we NEED an expanding population?
Country if full, Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Don Q at December 18, 2018 04:51 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
I thought rule number one was to never pay retail?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2018 04:52 PM (xzezz)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 18, 2018 04:52 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:49 PM (nID3z)
For you, that's only 40 dicks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2018 04:53 PM (fDU8w)
Posted by: Gritty at December 18, 2018 04:54 PM (nID3z)
>>How did we get a trillion dollar tax cut with less than 60?
They used budget reconciliation. Only takes 50 votes but there are strict rules and normal legislation like funding a wall don't apply.
For normal legislation you need 60 votes.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2018 04:54 PM (/tuJf)
The problem is not birth rates, it's Washington DC.
And truthfully, the GOP shares a lot of blame. Reagan's Amnesty in '86 for example.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (UfkIY)
In fairness, back in 1986 the Soviet Empire still looked formidable. Problems like immigration seemed quite small then. Do not view History with Perfect Hindsight, it is a short step from that to the kind of nauseating Leftist anti-American fault finding we get all the time.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:55 PM (ujg0T)
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Based on voting patterns of racial groups, if America had the same racial makeup in 2016 as in 1966 Trump would have won all 50 states and the Republicans would have super majorities in both houses of congress.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 18, 2018 04:55 PM (cRkMZ)
And as I said since last year, one thing neither the administration nor Hill GOP has done is to "politicize" the issue the way it should be. In a way that raises its profile even more and makes votes important for incumbents (both parties). The way all big issues were always handled, until 2009 when most big votes disappeared and CRs replaced regular appropriations.
Conway slipped in one interview immediately after the March CR debacle and said Trump had been "blind-sided" by the CR lacking his key immigration items, esp. border barrier. It's plausible, though unimaginable at the same time. The legislative affairs shop could have blind-sided him and the senior staff, though how anyone from that office could be at their jobs the next day is beyond my comprehension (Trump's handling of personnel, at least on the "bye bye" side, is excellent, and business-like).
In any case there was no sense of urgency, no serious political operation (which would include primarying GOP types) surrounding this central issue that made Trump president. And now? Barring some black swans (a whole flock), as I've been saying, no real action on urgent migration issues until 2021 at the earliest.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 18, 2018 04:55 PM (QDnY+)
I'm pretty confident that if Trump ordered the FED to conjure 5 bucks let alone 5 billion for the wall, that the GOP themselves would file articles of impeachment let alone the Democrats.
The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2018 04:38 PM (qxq6t) "
And I'm not gonna say you're wrong.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 18, 2018 05:01 PM (mfOi4)
The problem is not birth rates, it's Washington DC.
And truthfully, the GOP shares a lot of blame. Reagan's Amnesty in '86 for example.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (UfkIY)
The Pill+ Abortion+1965 Immigration Act got us to where we are today. I can't be convinced otherwise.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 18, 2018 04:50 PM (NFEMn)
In a lot of ways Japan mirrors us. Hi tech, civilized, sophisticated. Yet they've somehow kept their instinct for self preservation up and down the line. Washington has sold us out, as you and Blago note by mentioning Hart-Celler and Reagan. I'm sure all politicians are scummy, but ours are the worst, the shittiest. Japan, Israel, Hungary - they are not willing to destroy their own countries.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 18, 2018 05:01 PM (/qEW2)
https://tinyurl.com/y9j3bscf
Posted by: Jen the original at December 18, 2018 05:02 PM (L/94n)
The problem is not birth rates, it's Washington DC.
And truthfully, the GOP shares a lot of blame. Reagan's Amnesty in '86 for example.
Posted by: Blago at December 18, 2018 04:48 PM (UfkIY)
In fairness, back in 1986 the Soviet Empire still looked formidable. Problems like immigration seemed quite small then. Do not view History with Perfect Hindsight, it is a short step from that to the kind of nauseating Leftist anti-American fault finding we get all the time.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 18, 2018 04:55 PM (ujg0T)
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This is a fair point, but I'd rather live with the risk of mutually assured destruction than being slowly, steadily smothered to death with illegals and Muslims.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 18, 2018 05:08 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: tsj017 at December 18, 2018 05:28 PM (7ReX+)
My grandparents were Spaniards and spoke a very pleasant Castilian Spanish. There is no comparison to the harsh 'Spanish' spoken by Mexicans, central Americans, and most natives from the Spanish speaking Caribbean islands.
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