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Nothing to See Here: After Mueller Was Forced to Fire Lisa Page and Peter Strzok for Scheming To Cook Up an "Insurance Policy," He Seized Their Phones and... Deleted All Messages and Gave Them to Other FBI Agents To Use, Instead of Preserving Them

I'm sure it was just an oversight.

This is deliberate destruction of evidence -- of the same sort that this crew gave Hillary Clinton a pass on.

Someone should go to jail in this matter. But it's not Trump.

By the way: This comes from the Inspector General's report.



More from Jordan Schaechtel.

Obstruction? Mueller probe wiped Strzok phone before giving it to investigators

Jordan Schachtel · December 13, 2018

The Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General (OIG) has released a report on its investigation into the recovery of text messages from FBI mobile devices that were once operated by disgraced former FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

The report reveals disturbing details about the inner workings and lack of transparency in the office of special counsel Robert Mueller, who has been investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election for the past 575 days and has failed to publicize any evidence of Trump-Russia "collusion."

The OIG report found that all of the texts off of Strzok's and Page's mobile phones that they had received while they were working for the special counsel’s office (SCO) were deleted.

Continues below...






By the way: While it appears that Peter Strzok was deleting his texts every day (nothing suspicious about that!), Mueller of course knows that "deleted" texts can often be recovered -- but he made sure that that couldn't happen.

This is normal, right?

And see this thread too.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:15 PM




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1 Perfect justification for POTUS to fire SC.

Posted by: Ten at December 13, 2018 07:11 PM (Xlssn)

2 All of them should go to prison and be stripped of their pensions. Scum all of them.

Posted by: Jmel at December 13, 2018 07:12 PM (pXtpV)

3 bOOM.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 13, 2018 07:12 PM (KTFtO)

4 Special Counsel Mueller must be protected at all costs from the dangerous use of italics and be allowed to finish the job he was appointed to do.

Posted by: Senator Jeff Flake at December 13, 2018 07:13 PM (DuAZ5)

5 Shouldn't all that text stuff still be in the cloud somewhere?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 13, 2018 07:13 PM (fuK7c)

6 Proof of Italic Collusion?

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2018 07:13 PM (oamI3)

7


Is putting ace in the barrel crossing some kind of streams or something?

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 07:14 PM (NLLmE)

8 I feel like eating Italianic tonight.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 13, 2018 07:14 PM (ju9gW)

9
If this nonsense happened in any other common and garden variety criminal case, how could you even get it past a summary judgement for the defendant?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2018 07:14 PM (LsBY9)

10 Italicans have overtaken the main page!

Posted by: Surfperch at December 13, 2018 07:14 PM (tYPH9)

11 yeah but trump's inauguration...

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 07:14 PM (7J5t2)

12 Good thing we have laws about government records and their safe keeping.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 13, 2018 07:14 PM (kJWoP)

13
Sefton de-Italianizes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 07:14 PM (/9p9e)

14 remember when a coverup was the worst thing ever?

Posted by: Nixon at December 13, 2018 07:15 PM (nFwvY)

15 Mueller? Mueller?

Posted by: B. Stein at December 13, 2018 07:15 PM (n13/j)

16 I'm surprised he didn't bash them with a hammer. It seems to be his team's M.O.

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 13, 2018 07:15 PM (fD23g)

17 and still..... nothing will happen.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2018 07:15 PM (d7Ww2)

18

Spoliation is not just a hair remover, Herr Mueller...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 07:15 PM (/9p9e)

19 paging Admiral Rogers

Posted by: x at December 13, 2018 07:15 PM (nFwvY)

20
Shouldn't all that text stuff still be in the cloud somewhere?

They seeded the cloud and it's raining ones and zeros.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2018 07:16 PM (LsBY9)

21 It's not like these people have a history of destroying / altering / withholding evidence, though...


right?

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2018 07:16 PM (oamI3)

22 Pffff. Expecting Mueller to go before a jury is like expecting Ace to go to the Barrel.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2018 07:16 PM (ykYG2)

23 Spoliation of evidence creates the presumption that the evidence would have been harmful to the spoliator.

Jus' sayin'.

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 13, 2018 07:16 PM (fD23g)

24 I'm for abolishing the FBI. It's clearly beyond meaningful reform.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 13, 2018 07:17 PM (hjaPQ)

25 Honestly, we are getting close to a national version of the Battle of Athens.


The government corruption at the FBI, DoJ, and other Gov with Guns organizations is way beyond what a society that is based on the US Constitution.


And that part of the Press that covers for them like the lying spouse they are.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 13, 2018 07:17 PM (UsCnO)

26 I get willowed more than willow.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2018 07:17 PM (pgXNG)

27 Shouldn't all that text stuff still be in the cloud somewhere?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 13, 2018 07:13 PM (fuK7c)

--------------

If NSA has not gone in and scrubbed them, every text should be on the cell provider's servers.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 07:17 PM (ffYR/)

28 I promise not to Spoliate in your mouth.

Posted by: Robert Mueller at December 13, 2018 07:17 PM (oamI3)

29 Starting to see a pattern here with deep staters and evidence destruction.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2018 07:18 PM (/tuJf)

30 Nice website you got there, Ace.

Be a shame if it were all in italics.

Next time it might not be temporary.

Perhaps it's time to think about your own interests here.

Posted by: Special Counsel Robert "Bob" Mueller at December 13, 2018 07:18 PM (DuAZ5)

31 Have the acting AG arrest Mueller for felony destruction of evidence. Publish everything being held back about the illegal spying on Trump's campaign.

Since we're going to have a constitutional crisis over the refusal to accept the 2016 election anyway, let's set it off now!

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 13, 2018 07:18 PM (ju9gW)

32 Herr Mewler deserves what all the Mewlers got who disappeared after they surrendered in Stalingrad.

Posted by: Avi at December 13, 2018 07:18 PM (kSq2k)

33 TFW you're having a very normal very cool day, nothing to see here. Not worried at all about your buds getting convicted for crimes.

Posted by: Tariff Pikachu at December 13, 2018 07:19 PM (bFOlv)

34 At this point, the only way to stop the Left is to do things that will put your jobs and kids at risk.

But ultimately, there won't be anything remaining for your kids otherwise.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2018 07:19 PM (pgXNG)

35 I know why Donald Trump is letting Mueller play out his very weak hand, but seriously. Obstruction of justice, evidence tampering, and criminal conspiracy charges are needed. Prosecuting attorneys are not actually granted titles of nobility, especially when the crimes they commit are worse than the crimes they investigate.

Posted by: trev006 at December 13, 2018 07:19 PM (dTU8J)

36 Trump, ...time to start firing people. We either have a country or we dont.

Posted by: Tesla snob at December 13, 2018 07:19 PM (nzKWW)

37 But let's not forget all the things the FBI does so well, which escape my memory right now but I'm sure will come to me any time now.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (hjaPQ)

38 I just wanted to point out that my major sidebar contributions have been Dagwood Bumstead's guide to unleashing the atom and a link to a picture of Spock in a Speedo.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (kQs4Y)

39 FBI needs to be defunded, liquidated, and sent on an ice floe in polar bear country.

It is (and perhaps it has always been) corrupt at its core.

This is more than not acceptable.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (6eEQ+)

40 If NSA has not gone in and scrubbed them, every text should be on the cell provider's servers."

We can get them for you wholesale

/ some guys in Kiev and Beijing

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (6qErC)

41 I was busy singing the Horst Wessel Song in the Beer Hall when I accidentally deleted the phones

Posted by: Herr Muller at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (kSq2k)

42 And without the original phones, could you even prove forensically to a court who sent the texts and when?

Because there is no chain of custody of the information.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (NgKpN)

43 Simple enough. Start the investigation of Mueller, with a special prosecutor.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (VaN/j)

44 Something seems a bit shady with this Meuller feller.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (Kpctk)

45 Trump, ...time to start firing people.

You misspelled 'hanging.' Conspirators in attempted coup, like traitors, are hanged.

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (fD23g)

46 I assume Mueller is a lawyer, so as an officer of the court, how is he not been disbarred for destroying evidence?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (ftdxp)

47 At this point, the only thing that could save Mueller's integrity is to have his entire staff arrested and to refer criminal charges.

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2018 07:21 PM (oamI3)

48 All those text messages are there but you will have to pay a 7% tax to see them, according to CA.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 07:21 PM (DEtCz)

49 You misspelled 'hanging.' Conspirators in attempted coup, like traitors, are hanged.
Posted by: Qoheleth


By the neck. Until dead.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2018 07:21 PM (ftdxp)

50 31 Have the acting AG arrest Mueller for felony destruction of evidence. Publish everything being held back about the illegal spying on Trump's campaign.

Since we're going to have a constitutional crisis over the refusal to accept the 2016 election anyway, let's set it off now!
Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 13, 2018 07:18 PM (ju9gW)

Concur....

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:21 PM (NgKpN)

51 No Democrats will go to jail over this. I predict this.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 13, 2018 07:21 PM (l9m7l)

52 I know why Donald Trump is letting Mueller play out his very weak hand, but seriously.
Posted by: trev006

_____________

It's to the point where I'm genuinely pissed at Trump for him doing jack shit except angry tweets.

People are going to prison and their lives ruined all in order to let this farce play out.

For what? Is Trump afraid the press is going to say mean things if he fires Mueller?

Sessions should have been fired the day he decided to recuse himself and Mueller along with him.

Posted by: Blago at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (UfkIY)

53 >>But let's not forget all the things the FBI does so well


Christmas Miracles.

Posted by: Zombie Alan Rickman at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (oamI3)

54 43
Simple enough. Start the investigation of Mueller, with a special prosecutor.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (VaN/j)

This...give it to him good and hard. Destroy his life like he has others. War.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (KTFtO)

55 By the neck. Until dead.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2018 07:21 PM (ftdxp)

Lot of fine overpass locations just waiting to be filled!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (Kpctk)

56 At this point, the only thing that could save Mueller's integrity is to
have his entire staff arrested and to refer criminal charges.


At this point, not even ritual seppuku could have Mueller's "integrity."

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (fD23g)

57 "nothingburger" NPR
"lame duck republican death rattle" PBS

Posted by: 13times at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (K3B2k)

58 'Start the investigation of Mueller, with a special prosecutor.'

The investigations will never end. Get used to the new normal.

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (UdKB7)

59 The fascist is right. We should be worried about our "buds".

Posted by: East Bay Jay at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (PvCxa)

60 Yeah, the Deep State does NOT go to jail.

Your betters want you to focus on TrumpHitler and his crimes.

Posted by: shibumi at December 13, 2018 07:23 PM (fUnZ7)

61 Wiped? Like with a hammer?

Posted by: hillary (. ) (' ) at December 13, 2018 07:23 PM (Evws/)

62 46 I assume Mueller is a lawyer, so as an officer of the court, how is he not been disbarred for destroying evidence?

Same reason that the fisa judges dont give a shit they were lied to...

Posted by: DXO at December 13, 2018 07:23 PM (nzKWW)

63 I'm going to need a shitload of popcorn for this thread, and all the cognitive dissonance on display.

Posted by: Tariff Pikachu at December 13, 2018 07:23 PM (bFOlv)

64 And every MSM outlet is screaming that Trump is toast...

Pure and simple gaslighting.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:23 PM (NgKpN)

65 This Mueller Investigation is some fucked up shit, right here.

Posted by: Josef K at December 13, 2018 07:24 PM (oamI3)

66 "Start the investigation of Mueller, with..."

A Lord High Executioner.

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 13, 2018 07:24 PM (fD23g)

67 Shouldn't all that text stuff still be in the cloud somewhere?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 13, 2018 07:13 PM (fuK7c)


That's the question, yeah?

If they were personal phones, they likely would have been linked with the owner's iCloud account. You do have to flip a bit to sync messages with iCloud - I don't know if it's on by default - but according to Apple's privacy policy ca. 2016, deleted items are expunged from iCloud after 30 days. And besides, that presumes the phones were ever linked to iCloud - the on-call phone from work, for example, is an iPhone 8 that hasn't ever been linked with an iCloud account.

The next question is whether the SMS traffic was stored by the mobile service provider, and I have no idea if it is, or for how long. Worth noting is that text messages between iPhones go over Apple's data network and don't count as text messages since they aren't sent as SMS, so it's possible that they weren't stored there either. They'd appear as ordinary data traffic to the provider, as far as I know, not SMS and so would not be archived.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 13, 2018 07:24 PM (t+qrx)

68 One more item that convinces me that we no longer have a Constitutional government nor a viable republic.

I want to stay in denial and think it ain't so. But the evidence is becoming overwhelming.

Posted by: Sooner at December 13, 2018 07:24 PM (ppuyq)

69 This got willowed, but :

I was in line at the supermarket today and a black guy in line said, completely unprovoked, to the checkout clerk :

"That Trump is going to be in an orange jumpsuit with numbers on his back, in a couple weeks!"

Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2018 07:24 PM (pgXNG)

70 'all the cognitive dissonance on display'

Get a good look. Most of us are not wearing pants and our cognitives are just hanging out in the breeze.

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:25 PM (UdKB7)

71 How do we define "pants"?

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 07:26 PM (NLLmE)

72 Look, don't cross the FBI. They made me their butt boy and I still can't walk straight!

Posted by: Sharyl Atkisson's Computer at December 13, 2018 07:27 PM (DuAZ5)

73 That slimy ratfuck son of a syphylitic pig.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 07:27 PM (NWiLs)

74 This is deliberate destruction of evidence -- of the same sort that this crew gave Hillary Clinton a pass on.

Of the same sort that they, themselves, also did in the Shrillary coverup - they granted immunity to "witnesses" in exchange for NOTHING and then destroyed their laptops.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2018 07:27 PM (J7rD2)

75 Posted by: hogmartin at December 13, 2018 07:24 PM (t+qrx)

These were government issue phones though.

So under the Federal Records Retention rules, they should have been saved.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:27 PM (NgKpN)

76 I used to think that our side needed a new Ronald Reagan.

Then I started thinking no, what our side needed was a new Sam Adams or Patrick Henry.

I've graduated to thinking what our side needs is a new Frank Castle.

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 13, 2018 07:27 PM (fD23g)

77 Actually, it's worse than that. He destroyed exculpatory evidence, a clear Brady violation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 13, 2018 07:28 PM (+y/Ru)

78 Arrest Mueller and his whole team and appoint another special prosecutor to investigate all of them

Posted by: Jacob Abraham at December 13, 2018 07:28 PM (amRUc)

79 For what? Is Trump afraid the press is going to say mean things if he fires Mueller?

Sessions should have been fired the day he decided to recuse himself and Mueller along with him.
Posted by: Blago at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (UfkIY)

agree and fuck you to all the "Trust the Plan types"

Fire the Nazi
Go on TV in prime time with a Steven Miller written address going into intense detail of Herr Muller's history - refer to him by the correct German pronunciation and release the FISA documents and let it burn

Posted by: Avi at December 13, 2018 07:28 PM (kSq2k)

80 Wait.

Aren't there sealed indictments? A grand jury in Utah? Some guy named Bluber or something?

I was told that there are wheels within wheels, and expecting anything right now is unrealistic.

I think that was wishful thinking.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 13, 2018 07:28 PM (IfYaq)

81 'How do we define "pants"?'

Chaps with ass

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:28 PM (UdKB7)

82 I'm sure it was just an oversight.

Well, you did say you wanted federal oversight...

Posted by: The FIB at December 13, 2018 07:28 PM (lK7fO)

83 Ya know, a few months ago this would have warranted a fucking FLAMING SKULL. Now, this kind of corrupt behavior is just like, **yawn** same shit, different day.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:28 PM (2sCft)

84 Hey everybody.

Ace and everyone, since you enjoyed the Wiki entry on 10cc's "I'm Not In Love," I thought you might enjoy this short article/essay from Stereogum's series reviewing ever Billboard #1 hit since 1958.

This is the entry for the Jackson 5's "I Want You Back," which was the Jacksons' first release on Motown and only the second #1 song of the 1970s.

https://tinyurl.com/y87do6r6

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (miE9U)

85 So Mueller's team wiped ALL of the data off of Peter Strzok's iPhone after determining "it contained no substantive text messages." Given what we know about Strzok, this smells like quite the coverup. Time for Congress to step in?

Screw Congress. Just impale Mueller in front of the Capitol building.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (J7rD2)

86 Why is everyone talking about the cloud? Has nothing to do with phones! Unless it rains and gets your phone wet. Then the phone don't work good.

Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio-I forget the rest at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (gC2IV)

87 And a desperate country cries out to Bob from the NSA.... "Help us NSA Bob you are our only hope!!"

Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (BuAtv)

88 >>How do we define "pants"?


Anything that covers your taint.

At least, that's what Merriam had to say on the subject.

Webster, as we all know, disagreed vehemently. In fact most scholars still point to this as the reason they broke up.

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (oamI3)

89 Then I started thinking no, what our side needed was a new Sam Adams or Patrick Henry.

I've graduated to thinking what our side needs is a new Frank Castle.
Posted by: Qoheleth


Steven Hardin.

(Michael Douglas - Star Chamber)

Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (ftdxp)

90 Instead of Preserving Them As E
How do you keep a Moron in suspense?

Posted by: old jokes at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (0mHFR)

91 53 >>But let's not forget all the things the FBI does so well


Christmas Miracles.
Posted by: Zombie Alan Rickman at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (oamI3)

Just like fuckin' Saigon, hey slick?

Posted by: Special Agent Johnson at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (NWiLs)

92 And besides, that presumes the phones were ever linked to iCloud - the on-call phone from work, for example, is an iPhone 8 that hasn't ever been linked with an iCloud account.


I occasionally want to refer to an old text. I don't back up anything to iCloud, btw.

When I scroll back I hit a limit -- what's stored locally on my phone -- and then it fills in some more. Scroll back further, rinse and repeat.

So very unscientifically I think the carrier is feeding me stuff from its archives that are not local to my phone. And I've been able to look up some old stuff.

So the Strzok Page stuff should be somewhere accessible.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (fuK7c)

93 Then I started thinking no, what our side needed was a new Sam Adams or Patrick Henry.

-
A new John Brown. We need to free the slaves again.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (+y/Ru)

94 Meanwhile South Park had "Trump" in handcuffs last night in the season finale.

Posted by: Liberty at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (MmlEs)

95 69 This got willowed, but :

I was in line at the supermarket today and a black guy in line said, completely unprovoked, to the checkout clerk :

"That Trump is going to be in an orange jumpsuit with numbers on his back, in a couple weeks!"
Posted by: Hikaru


I was recently coordinating meeting up with a British friend in England, and proposed we meet at a pub in a very cute village that was midway between where we both we going be. She immediately snapped, "No! I refuse to go there!" When I asked why, she said, "I know it's full of Brexit voters!"

Ooooooo-kay. So I guess we'll meet in the worst slums of London, then, if you want to avoid Brexit voters.

Posted by: zombie at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (c+2jX)

96
TP (heh!) apparently doesn't know what cognitive dissonance means.

Another retard trying to sound smart by using phrases he doesn't understand.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (CRRq9)

97 52
Is Trump afraid the press is going to say mean things if he fires Mueller?
Posted by: Blago at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (UfkIY)


More like there are probably a dozen cuck GOPe senators who are just looking for an excuse to vote for conviction after impeachment.

Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (sdi6R)

98 The Feral Barrel of Italics.

Posted by: t-bird at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (lK7fO)

99 How do we define "pants"?


Anything that covers your taint.

At least, that's what Merriam had to say on the subject.

Webster, as we all know, disagreed vehemently. In fact most scholars still point to this as the reason they broke up.
Posted by: garrett


Then we need Funk & Wagnall to break the tie.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (ftdxp)

100 Atkinsson's book was a what they can do to you manual.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (DEtCz)

101 87 And a desperate country cries out to Bob from the NSA.... "Help us NSA Bob you are our only hope!!"
Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (BuAtv)

Its phone stuff... we need to ask the Brits at MI6 for it.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (NgKpN)

102 Anything that covers your taint.

At least, that's what Merriam had to say on the subject.

Webster, as we all know, disagreed vehemently. In fact most scholars still point to this as the reason they broke up.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (oamI3)



Ahh yes. The Great Taint Divide.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 07:31 PM (NLLmE)

103
These fucks think they're gonna get away with this.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 07:31 PM (MLwNA)

104 Is Trump afraid the press is going to say mean things if he fires Mueller?

Um, no.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 13, 2018 07:31 PM (dUJdY)

105 Congress can step in any time it wants. We have all the time in the world to ignore their subpoenas.

It's not like they have any prosecutors!

Posted by: Your Independent Police State at December 13, 2018 07:31 PM (vDqXW)

106 94 Meanwhile South Park had "Trump" in handcuffs last night in the season finale.
Posted by: Liberty


I didn't know a shark could be jumped that high.

Posted by: zombie at December 13, 2018 07:31 PM (c+2jX)

107 How is this not a flaming skull? The head prosecutor destroying evidence of prosecutorial malfeasance.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (LT1fS)

108 These were government issue phones though.

So under the Federal Records Retention rules, they should have been saved.
Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:27 PM (NgKpN)


Point taken but n.b.: "should have". I'm assuming that at this point we're now looking at whether third parties captured records that federal law enforcement tried to destroy.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (t+qrx)

109 I'm gonna need a bigger bowl.

Posted by: Tariff Pikachu at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (bFOlv)

110 I was in line at the supermarket today and a black guy in line said, completely unprovoked, to the checkout clerk :

"That Trump is going to be in an orange jumpsuit with numbers on his back, in a couple weeks!"
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2018 07:24 PM (pgXNG)
++++
The way this clusterfuck is rolling out in slow motion, that black guy may make the Amazing Kreskin look like an amateur.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (2sCft)

111 Ahh yes. The Great Taint Divide.
Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 07:31 PM

The sad part is that they really weren't that far apart.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (nAeGR)

112 Last link. Julie Kelly reports Flynn agree to meeting because fib used false pretext for the meeting.

Seen it reported elsewhere that the pretext for the meeting with Flynn was they were doing it as a training opportunity for a young agent.

Posted by: Simplemind at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (ZuGkg)

113 Backup my phone? Do I hold it in a different hand and walk backwards?

Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio-I forget the rest at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (gC2IV)

114
Jeff Sessions might be the biggest fool ever.

A complete shithead.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (MLwNA)

115 Screw Congress. Just impale Mueller in front of the Capitol building.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (J7rD2)

No hang him Nuremberg

Posted by: Avi at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (kSq2k)

116 Ask not for whom the rotors start up, they start up for thee.

Posted by: Stu Podaso - Deranged Deplorable Dreg at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (NeT11)

117 'Then we need Funk & Wagnall to break the tie.'

All you need is the Funk.

Posted by: George Clinton at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (UdKB7)

118 89 Then I started thinking no, what our side needed was a new Sam Adams or Patrick Henry.

I've graduated to thinking what our side needs is a new Frank Castle.
Posted by: Qoheleth


Steven Hardin.

(Michael Douglas - Star Chamber)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (ftdxp)


*sigh* How quickly they forget.

Posted by: Zombie Augusto Pinochet at December 13, 2018 07:33 PM (sdi6R)

119
It's to the point where I'm genuinely pissed at Trump for him doing jack shit except angry tweets.
are going to prison and their lives ruined all in order to let this farce play out.
For what? Is Trump afraid the press is going to say mean things if he fires Mueller?

It's not like Trump spent years in politics and had a built in power base when he was elected.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 13, 2018 07:33 PM (TAmPV)

120 I didn't know a shark could be jumped that high.
Posted by: zombie

And apparently they apologized to Gore for the whole Manbearpig thing too.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at December 13, 2018 07:33 PM (5RXy6)

121 "A Republic, if you can keep it."

Posted by: mikeyG at December 13, 2018 07:33 PM (LL1Be)

122 Screw Congress. Just impale Mueller in front of the Capitol building.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (J7rD2)

Finally, someone I can relate to!

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:33 PM (2sCft)

123 No Democrats will go to jail over this. I predict this.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 13, 2018 07:21 PM (l9m7l)

That's become very obvious.

Posted by: WOPR at December 13, 2018 07:33 PM (J70i0)

124 'Then we need Funk & Wagnall to break the tie.'

All you need is the Funk.
Posted by: George Clinton


Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2018 07:34 PM (ftdxp)

125 >>So the Strzok Page stuff should be somewhere accessible.

If you read the IG report that sounds doubtful. They were able to recover 20,000 texts that had been stored on a server from their multiple Samsung phones but they weren't able to get anything from the iPhones that there issued for the SC investigation.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2018 07:34 PM (/tuJf)

126 Webster, as we all know, disagreed vehemently. In fact most scholars still point to this as the reason they broke up.

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2018 07:29 PM (oamI3)
----
Behind the Dictionaries.

Posted by: VH-1 at December 13, 2018 07:34 PM (vDqXW)

127 Start up the rotors
Pack the leftist scum

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 07:34 PM (NWiLs)

128
The Italicans Are Coming!

The Italicans Are Coming!

Posted by: The Ethiopians at December 13, 2018 07:34 PM (eXA4G)

129 120 I didn't know a shark could be jumped that high.
Posted by: zombie

And apparently they apologized to Gore for the whole Manbearpig thing too.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig


THAT part I already heard about. Unreal. All humor jettisoned, just gain PC points. Well, they had a good run.

Posted by: zombie at December 13, 2018 07:34 PM (c+2jX)

130 Hiya

This is sub-optimal at best.

Posted by: ALH at December 13, 2018 07:34 PM (cS3Yq)

131 just gain = just to gain

Posted by: zombie at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (c+2jX)

132 Any man playin' grabass or mentionin' the italics spends a night in the ONT box.

Them underwear got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number and says "Avenatti, that italican, stole my briefs" spends a night in the ONT box.

There's no playin' grab-ass or mentionin' the formattin' loose shit in the building. You got a grudge against another man for beatin' you to an italican joke, you fight him on a Saturday afternoon thread. Any man playin' grab-ass or mentionin' the loose shit formattin' in the building spends a night in the ONT box.

First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk without mention' your bunk leans right. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight or makes a formattin' joke spends the night in the ONT box.

There is no smokin' in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smokin' in the legs-up position posin' like type formattin' ... spends a night in the ONT box.

No one'll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sittin' on the bunks and says he's got "a bold-on" spends a night in the ONT box.

Any man loud talkin' formattin' jokes that don't make no sense once the loose shit's fixed, spends a night in the ONT box.

You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the loose shit formattin' floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in the ONT box.

Posted by: carr, the loose shit formattin' floor walker at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (Evws/)

133 *clears throat*

Heads on pikes.
Impalements.
Gibbets.
Hanging.
Drawing.
Quartering.
The rack.
The wheel.
The thumbscrews.
The skull crusher.
The iron maiden.
The pear of anguish.
The Judas cradle.
The crocodile shears.

Time to get medieval on their asses.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)

134 Jeff Sessions might be the biggest fool ever.

A complete shithead.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 07:32 PM (MLwNA)

I think he was an honorable guy, but was captured by Washington.

And knew that if we found out what was REALLY going on? It would tear apart the system.

So, he 'discretioned'.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (NgKpN)

135 This constant mocking of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez reeks of the worst kind of anti-Hispemitism!

C'mon, we're better than that, people!

Posted by: Geraldo Rivero at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (DuAZ5)

136 I'l read Muller his rights...
Last rights.
[key-tar riff]

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - 80s action movie star at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (5RXy6)

137 Jumping sharks?

ITS A SHARKNADO!

Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio-I forget the rest at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (gC2IV)

138 Amazing how many electronic devices get accidentally wiped.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (nAeGR)

139 Is Trump afraid the press is going to say mean things if he fires Mueller?
Posted by: Blago at December 13, 2018 07:22 PM (UfkIY)

More like there are probably a dozen cuck GOPe senators who are just looking for an excuse to vote for conviction after impeachment.
Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (sdi6R)

--------------

Yes, this would light up the House and give them the reason they need to move on impeachment because "obstruction of justice". The fact that Mewler serves at the pleasure of the President, as does Rosenstein, etc., would not matter to them.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (ffYR/)

140 Start up the rotors
Pack the leftist scum

Let's tear the roof off the sucka!

Posted by: George Clinton at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (UdKB7)

141 97. Let the senate Go for it. And they might as well switch parties, because the GOP will cease to exist.

Posted by: Jonah at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (HrSJb)

142
Where have you gone, Bob from NSA?

Our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you

Woo Woo Woo

What's that you say, Bob from NSA

The Constitutions left and gone away

Hey Hey Hey

Hey Hey Hey

Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2018 07:36 PM (CRRq9)

143 You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the loose shit formattin' floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in the ONT box.
Posted by: carr, the loose shit formattin' floor walker at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (Evws/)

Lighten up Francis...

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:36 PM (NgKpN)

144 That slimy ratfuck son of a syphylitic pig.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 07:27 PM (NWiLs)

+++++
A nice turn of phrase. Impressive.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:36 PM (2sCft)

145 Trump was supposed to be played by Cartman. But that's not 'woke' I guess.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at December 13, 2018 07:36 PM (PvCxa)

146 Golf clap for carr.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 07:37 PM (NLLmE)

147 If he fires mueller, gop voters will be fine with it. Senate gop would need 20 to vote for conviction. Not gonna happen

Posted by: Jonah at December 13, 2018 07:37 PM (HrSJb)

148 Is Trump afraid the press is going to say mean things if he fires Mueller?

Pretty sure I wouldn't just be fired if I did what Mueller did.

Posted by: t-bird at December 13, 2018 07:37 PM (OiC69)

149 No Democrats will go to jail over this. I predict this.

-
The sun will rise in the east and set down in the west.

Posted by: The Amazing Kreskin! at December 13, 2018 07:37 PM (+y/Ru)

150 Where the hell is Whitaker? Is PDT completely on his own?

Posted by: Ever at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (1Zh0U)

151 133 *clears throat*

Heads on pikes.
Impalements.
Gibbets.
Hanging.
Drawing.
Quartering.
The rack.
The wheel.
The thumbscrews.
The skull crusher.
The iron maiden.
The pear of anguish.
The Judas cradle.
The crocodile shears.

Time to get medieval on their asses.
Posted by: Insomniac


Truth is, most of those torture implements date from the later Inquisitions, and thus are from long AFTER the medieval era.

To truly "get medieval" on someone, you dump horse manure on their heads, then slice them in half sideways with a broadsword.

Posted by: zombie at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (c+2jX)

152 133 Time to get medieval on their asses.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)

You know, I don't want to be that person...

...but it's "Put Up or Shut Up" time.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (pgXNG)

153 You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the loose shit formattin' floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in the ONT box.
Posted by: carr, the loose shit formattin' floor walker at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (Evws/)

I have a question.

What is Truth?

Posted by: ALH at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (cS3Yq)

154 Ooops!

Posted by: Team Muller at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (nAeGR)

155 I'd like to see Mueller and Boehner given bath salts, locked in the Octagon, and chew each others' faces off.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (/qEW2)

156 You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the loose shit formattin' floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in the ONT box.
Posted by: carr, the loose shit formattin' floor walker at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (Evws/)

++++
Thanks for the clarification Mr. Carr.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (2sCft)

157 Watched a little of Mark Meadows questioning some whistle blowers in a congressional hearing today. If anyone is expecting AG Huber to clean house at the DOJ you're going to be sadly mistaken. It appears he and his investigative staff haven't done anything but piss away money and pad their expense accounts. He wouldn't even respond to these whistle blowers trying to give him information. The whole deportment needs to be cleaned out from top to bottom, fire the cleaning staff also.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (4thlk)

158 Whoops a daisy!

Posted by: Team Muller at December 13, 2018 07:39 PM (nAeGR)

159 151
To truly "get medieval" on someone, you dump horse manure on their heads, then slice them in half sideways with a broadsword.
Posted by: zombie at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (c+2jX)


That works for me.

Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 07:39 PM (sdi6R)

160 To truly "get medieval" on someone, you dump horse manure on their heads, then slice them in half sideways with a broadsword.
Posted by: zombie at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (c+2jX)


While wearing an onion on your belt.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 13, 2018 07:39 PM (t+qrx)

161 Yes, this would light up the House and give them the reason they need to move on impeachment because "obstruction of justice". The fact that Mewler serves at the pleasure of the President, as does Rosenstein, etc., would not matter to them.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (ffYR/)
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They wanted to go after Bush Jr. for firing WH prosecutors "for the wrong reason". Bill Clinton fired the entire staff of Bush Sr's WH prosecutors, as he could. Bush Jr. fired 7, and they wanted to make a case for abuse of power out of it.

Posted by: VH-1 at December 13, 2018 07:39 PM (vDqXW)

162


It's to the point where I'm genuinely pissed at Trump for him doing jack shit except angry tweets.


Sure. Blame Trump.
msnbc makes a living doing it.
CNN does it their sleep.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 13, 2018 07:39 PM (LL1Be)

163 >>Watched a little of Mark Meadows questioning some whistle blowers in a congressional hearing today. If anyone is expecting AG Huber to clean house at the DOJ you're going to be sadly mistaken. It appears he and his investigative staff haven't done anything but piss away money and pad their expense accounts. He wouldn't even respond to these whistle blowers trying to give him information. The whole deportment needs to be cleaned out from top to bottom, fire the cleaning staff also.

You watched a different hearing than I did.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2018 07:40 PM (/tuJf)

164 Where the hell is Whitaker? Is PDT completely on his own?
Posted by: Ever at December 13, 2018 07:38 PM (1Zh0U)
=++++
The Deep State is..... Deep.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:40 PM (2sCft)

165 Jeff Sessions might be the biggest fool ever.

He was a good soldier. One of our most effective.

Posted by: The Beltway at December 13, 2018 07:40 PM (NAs56)

166 Congress get involved?


The quality of sarcasm at this site is declining.


I'm sure Nadler and the boys will get *right* on it.



Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2018 07:40 PM (QDnY+)

167 I am not convinced Sessions wasn't the 'insurance policy'

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 13, 2018 07:40 PM (07mXI)

168 I just wanted to point out that my major sidebar contributions have been Dagwood Bumstead's guide to unleashing the atom and a link to a picture of Spock in a Speedo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (kQs4Y)
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We don't deserve you.

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2018 07:40 PM (U5tDi)

169 PSA
For those of you not paying attention, there is a NoVaMoMe on February 9, 2019. If you're interested in attending, send an email to the address in my nic.

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 07:41 PM (MVjcR)

170

btw, after Jan 3rd when Paul Ryan is a civilian again, he's on my List of those I'll punch in the face.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 07:41 PM (PesD+)

171 Oh, man, I am just out, enjoying the sun and all these cell phones fell off the boat. Butterfingers McGee!

Posted by: Team Muller at December 13, 2018 07:41 PM (nAeGR)

172
He wouldn't even respond to these whistle blowers trying to give him information. The whole deportment needs to be cleaned out from top to bottom, fire the cleaning staff also.


He probably declined because the investigation is still on going.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 13, 2018 07:41 PM (TAmPV)

173 We need a post-medieval renaissance

Posted by: George Clinton at December 13, 2018 07:41 PM (UdKB7)

174
Speaking of which, Paul Ryan has ABSCONDED his Speakership in effect, yes?


Is that the right word??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 07:41 PM (PesD+)

175 *sings*

Heads on pikes, gibbets, and hanging and drawing

Intestines exposed that draws the crows cawing

Skull crusher, thumbscrews, and slow quartering

These are a few of my favorite things!


Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (CRRq9)

176 I just wanted to point out that my major sidebar contributions have been Dagwood Bumstead's guide to unleashing the atom and a link to a picture of Spock in a Speedo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (kQs4Y)
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We don't deserve you.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2018 07:40 PM (U5tDi)
+++++
Does Dagwood Bumstead's unleashing the atom have anything to do with sammichs?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (2sCft)

177 Ow off funky sock

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (UdKB7)

178 Now is the time on Schproketz when we Shit Our Pants.

would you like to touch my monkey?

Posted by: mikeyG at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (LL1Be)

179 For what? Is Trump afraid the press is going to say mean things if he fires Mueller? 

It's not like Trump spent years in politics and had a built in power base when he was elected.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 13, 2018 07:33 PM (TAmPV)

It's more than that. The media was pushing "Trump is Hitler" with fervor. If Trump had thrown people in Guantanamo, the libs would have started an all out attack to kill him outright.

They will do that anyways, but with a successful economy and enthusiastic enlisted military, it will be much tougher.

Anyways, they can try to ruin Cohen and Manafort, but bear in mind even good dudes have spent time in jail under tyrannies. Which is what Muellerstan certainly is. If things go well for Trump, there will be no shortage of money and property to give decent Americans.

If not, prison is not going to be the main priority.


Posted by: trev006 at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (dTU8J)

180 Lighten up Francis...
Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:36 PM (NgKpN)


https://tinyurl.com/y97vchmp

Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (Evws/)

181 Is that the right word??
Absconded, abdicated, sat on his thumbs. It all pretty much works.

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (fD23g)

182 So the NSA doesn't have FBI texts?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (BJlbN)

183 Ryan. Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. He'll be back I bet though. Yuck.

Posted by: MInnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:43 PM (nAeGR)

184 If you're interested in attending, send an email to the address in my nic.
Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 07:41 PM (MVjcR)
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Or the one in my nic!


Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2018 07:43 PM (U5tDi)

185 Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)

Don't forget the classics:

Flaying alive
Brazen Bull
Boil in oil

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2018 07:43 PM (J7rD2)

186 These are a few of my favorite things!


Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (CRRq9)

+++
Brought a tear to my eye, it did.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:43 PM (2sCft)

187 'What is Truth?'

That's easy

Posted by: Beauty at December 13, 2018 07:43 PM (UdKB7)

188 Your President chose...poorly.

Posted by: Old Knight at December 13, 2018 07:43 PM (r9UYA)

189 So the NSA doesn't have FBI texts?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM

They did, but you know, boat accident and all. Really sad.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:43 PM (nAeGR)

190
Or the one in my nic!

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2018 07:43 PM (U5tDi)
--------
My nic email link is better.

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 07:44 PM (MVjcR)

191 Which is what Muellerstan certainly is. If things go well for Trump, there will be no shortage of money and property to give decent Americans.

If not, prison is not going to be the main priority.


Posted by: trev006 at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (dTU8J)

I prefer the term Nazi Mullerland

Posted by: Avi at December 13, 2018 07:44 PM (kSq2k)

192 These guys are not criminal masterminds. Any time I shut down this cheap laptop, I delete all browsing data. This is not out of fear of some gubbmint agency blasting through my door, but just good housekeeping. I know anything I've done on this piece of plastic is recoverable by a smart kid in 12th grade. Deletion, destruction of data by these people is simply arrogance.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 13, 2018 07:44 PM (xzqr4)

193
Abdicated. Thank you. That's the word I wanted.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 07:45 PM (PesD+)

194 well..it's like in the Apple Dumpling Gang...where the sheriff says "yeah, we'll hang you tomorrow, so you boys show up...and bring some rope too if you don't mind" and the deputy is like "think they're dumb enough to show up" and the sheriff's all like "if they are, they deserve to hang".

So, if Trump/Giuliani and Barr/Whittaker can sit there and read the same shit we read and still get wuppped, then sure trump's dumb as a rock and he derrserves what he done gon git.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 07:45 PM (7J5t2)

195 I prefer the term Nazi Mullerland

Posted by: Avi at December 13, 2018 07:44 PM (kSq2k)

Outstanding. The motion carries.

Posted by: trev006 at December 13, 2018 07:45 PM (dTU8J)

196 "You watched a different hearing than I did.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2018 07:40 PM (/tuJf)"


That's because you're totally invested in the fantasy that there's even one competent person inside the DOJ and that heads are going to roll.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 13, 2018 07:45 PM (4thlk)

197 lol, j/k the deputy writes himself a memo saying that he was skeered the sheriff was obstructimicating justice of the law.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 07:45 PM (7J5t2)

198 I was cleaning my trebuchet and I put my phone-texty-synthetic soul thingy in the basket and it went off. It went over the horizon, it did.

Posted by: Burger Chef at December 13, 2018 07:45 PM (RuIsu)

199 Huber is hiding in the Beer Hall with Muller

Posted by: Avi at December 13, 2018 07:46 PM (kSq2k)

200 Is it pitch fork time yet?

Posted by: RichardWindsor at December 13, 2018 07:46 PM (db5dt)

201 hese guys are not criminal masterminds.

===

remember that.

Mueller can't even prosecute a guy unless he hides exculp data. Strzok cannot even have an affair without leaving a paper trail a million miles long.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 07:47 PM (7J5t2)

202 Is that the right word??

Abdicated. He's still there? Never hear of him.

Posted by: t-bird at December 13, 2018 07:47 PM (DCYln)

203 Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2018 07:42 PM (CRRq9)

Brava! Brava!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 07:47 PM (NWiLs)

204 Huber is hiding in the Beer Hall with Muller
Posted by: Avi at December 13, 2018 07:46 PM

John has a long moustache. John has a long moustache.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:47 PM (nAeGR)

205 What was that about Sessions being the silent executioner?

Well, the "silent" part was right, anyway.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 13, 2018 07:47 PM (IfYaq)

206 Wanton destruction of evidence appears to be the modus operandi of the (in)Justice Department. How much longer can this continue?

Posted by: Average Guy at December 13, 2018 07:47 PM (LMcFk)

207 Use of Italics only perpetuates the racist patrionormative hierarchy!

Posted by: Hispanics against Columbus at December 13, 2018 07:48 PM (zCyNd)

208 Not sure why Gitmo is frequently brought up - it has nothing whatsoever to do with the situation.


In the event any of the perps are actually prosecuted and do hard time (I will leave that to the competing galleries of fortun-tellers here to decide), it will be in a stateside facility.


One wonders whether people even know why the Gitmo detention facility was created. Many seem to think it's some kind of super-duper super-prison for reallly reallllly baaaaad people. Nope. It's off-shore, not under US court jurisdiction. The whole point of it. Any US citizen tried/convicted in stateside courts for acts inside the US, duh, does time in stateside prisons.


Same same with "military tribunals". Not relevant at all to non-violent criminal acts committed by US citizens inside the US, and probably not to the violent ones, either (how did the Padilla case eventually turn out, forget).

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2018 07:48 PM (QDnY+)

209 This is how our Republic dies. Sad.....

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:48 PM (2sCft)

210 Hang him.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 13, 2018 07:48 PM (O033+)

211
Harvard invited Angela Merkin to deliver the commencement next year.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 07:48 PM (PesD+)

212 Wanton destruction of evidence appears to be the modus operandi of the (in)Justice Department. How much longer can this continue?
Posted by: Average Guy at December 13, 2018 07:47 PM

Until all the evidence they don't want anyone to see is gone? Was that like rhetorical?

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:48 PM (nAeGR)

213 I just wanted to point out that my major sidebar contributions have been Dagwood Bumstead's guide to unleashing the atom and a link to a picture of Spock in a Speedo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2018 07:20 PM (kQs4Y)
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We don't deserve you.



Speaking of deserve, how did Dagwood land Blondie?

A dweeb like that and a rack like hers? Even as a little kid it didn't seem right.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 13, 2018 07:49 PM (fuK7c)

214 lowandslow, go avail yourself of a website called the Mechanics of Deception.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 07:49 PM (DEtCz)

215 209 This is how our Republic dies. Sad.....
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:48 PM (2sCft)


It died around 1913.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 07:49 PM (/9p9e)

216 Remember when all of the Pierre Omidyar finger puppets were going on about how Bob Muller was just a straight-shooter and epitome of integrity?
Gawd, I feel stupid.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at December 13, 2018 07:49 PM (5RXy6)

217 *zzzZZZZzzz*

Posted by: Citizen Sessions at December 13, 2018 07:49 PM (Z9C5C)

218 185 Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)

Don't forget the classics:

Flaying alive
Brazen Bull
Boil in oil
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2018 07:43 PM (J7rD2)

Ah ah ah ah
Flaying alive, flaying alive

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (NWiLs)

219 It is very kind of Martha to have a Very Special Syphilitic Cunt segment to let these dried-up hags spew their venom.



Posted by: mikeyG at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (LL1Be)

220 look, trump:

1. basically said if you come at me, house, I'm using the slush fund to get you too.

2. has had nearly every person fired in the FBI in on the original scheme.

3. Has Huber, and the OIG.

4. bye bye flake and mccain

I don't know, I think we're all spooked by the midterms and the other thing but if trump can survive poosie grabbin gate, because he fights, then he's not going to let no one do shit to him at this level.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (7J5t2)

221 I do wonder about NSA back-ups of all the "missing" comms that have been discussed, from the revelation of Hillary's outrageous criminal enterprise at State, to the present.



Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (QDnY+)

222 >>That's because you're totally invested in the fantasy that there's even one competent person inside the DOJ and that heads are going to roll.

Says the guy totally invested in nothings happening.

I'm invested in listening and reading the facts. I watched the whole hearing not just parts.

Meadows would fit right in here because he's been saying since day 1 that the DOJ and FBI aren't doing anything and won't do anything and when he was told today that the DOJ and FBI do indeed have an active investigation into the CF he looked like he swallowed his tongue. And then started trying to justify that it wasn't a real investigation with zero evidence of that.

They haven't been sitting around for a year just waiting for this one whistlblower. They have a team in Little Rock, one in Atlanta and one in NYC. They've been working on this for quite some time and this whistleblower is just one of 3 three that have come forward on top of the investigation they are doing internally.

There was zero evidence today that nothing is happening. Just the opposite.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (/tuJf)

223 I was just following orders.

Posted by: FBI IT/Comm tech at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (QLvwG)

224 This is insane. If my boss knew I was destroying evidence, required by law to be retained, he would be taking all my devices bc BOSS. Whitaker really wants to be Sessions Jr?

Posted by: Ever at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (1Zh0U)

225 How much longer can this continue?

We could use some more shredders.

Posted by: Dept. of Just Us at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (DCYln)

226 213 Dagwood had a unique way of scratching his knee.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (xzqr4)

227 Huber is hiding in the Beer Hall with Muller
Posted by: Avi at December 13, 2018 07:46 PM (kSq2k)
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No doubt planning their beer hall putsch! Fun times ahead. I can't wait until Adam Shifft for brains is the head of the House Oversight Committee or Intelligence Committee or whatever. Gawd, I can't stand the sight of that asshole.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (2sCft)

228 Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

Posted by: Bob Mueller at December 13, 2018 07:51 PM (gC2IV)

229

Jeff Sessions is that old guy in Porky's who watched that pornography film...twice.


Was that Porky's?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 07:51 PM (PesD+)

230 Blondie cleans up well. She would be a modestly-attractive 7/10 without the heels and the expensive blonde perm.

As for why she takes that much effort, I suggest consulting Paolo.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2018 07:51 PM (ykYG2)

231 I watched that hearing today too.....and as we all have expected, the witnesses testified that their information on the CF was ignored by Huber.

Since last April! When it was announced that they were called to testify on Nov 30, suddenly Huber contacts them.

Bastards all! I have never seen Meadows so mad.

I did like when asked by Meadows why they would not give the committee all the docs, he said it's because they only gave it to law enforcement because the Congress would do nothing with it!

Turns out law enforcement wouldn't either.

Insane!

Posted by: Pam at December 13, 2018 07:51 PM (qRq6C)

232 'Speaking of deserve, how did Dagwood land Blondie?'

Love is strange. Iirc Blondie's dad was rich and Dagwood was a hero cat, whatever that was. Kinda like a 30s hippie I guess.

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:51 PM (UdKB7)

233 SPOILAGE ALERT.........

..........................Aaaahhh all better now.

Posted by: saf at December 13, 2018 07:51 PM (5IHGB)

234 What does this button do?

Posted by: Team Mueller at December 13, 2018 07:51 PM (nAeGR)

235 Hep cat not hero cat sheez

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:52 PM (UdKB7)

236

The Decline began...

when they changed the name of the PTA to the PTO for no good reason.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 07:52 PM (PesD+)

237 Jeff Flake's last official moral stance, protect Mueller or I won't vote for any judge appointments, is looking particularly dumbfuck atm...

*plants his Staff Of Immense Retard Power, shouts "You Shall Not Pass" like his 3rd grade homeroom teacher told him about his grades*

You go, girl.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 13, 2018 07:52 PM (Z4rgH)

238 This is how our Republic dies. Sad.....
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:48 PM (2sCft)

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It had been on life support for a while. It really died the day Comey had his presser in July 2016. That's the day he listed all the crimes of Felonia, and then went on to explain why she would not be prosecuted.

That day he told us we were officially a nation of men and not laws.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 07:52 PM (ffYR/)

239 There was zero evidence today that nothing is happening. Just the opposite.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (/tuJf)

++++
I will continue to hope you are right Mr. Straw.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:52 PM (2sCft)

240 Hard to imagine a less productive hearing than one in which a prosecutor is to discuss ongoing cases. Sort of a nothingburger, by definition, unless other aspects were raised that can be discussed.


So what were the important take-aways - if any - from Huber's appearance?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2018 07:52 PM (QDnY+)

241 In their defense, the FBI developed the science of tracing bullets back to the gun they were fired from. Ballistic fingerprinting, don't you know.

Which, as it turns out, was all fucking bullshit.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 13, 2018 07:52 PM (hjaPQ)

242 I am so glad that the FBI only hires straight shooting stand up guys (and gals of course), because otherwise, I'd be inclined to think this country! is really fooked

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 13, 2018 07:52 PM (f3oO4)

243 You know, "Be Kind. Rewind". Like that.

Posted by: Bob Mueller at December 13, 2018 07:53 PM (DCYln)

244 Given Huber, Mueller, and many others, it's obvious we are way out numbered and screwed.


Trump is almost alone.

Posted by: Avenger at December 13, 2018 07:53 PM (70ScF)

245 I know anything I've done on this piece of plastic is recoverable by a smart kid in 12th grade.
======================
I don't know exactly how texting works, but, just like my browser history, you can retrieve it through the ISP or carrier, I would think.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 13, 2018 07:53 PM (ty7RM)

246 How much longer can this continue?



We could use some more shredders.

Posted by: Dept. of Just Us at December 13, 2018 07:50 PM (DCYln)


Team Reunion!!

Posted by: Arthur Andersen Houston Office at December 13, 2018 07:53 PM (QLvwG)

247 It had been on life support for a while. It really died the day Comey
had his presser in July 2016. That's the day he listed all the crimes of
Felonia, and then went on to explain why she would not be prosecuted.


19th Amendment. That was The End.



Write it down. Teach the children quietly...

Posted by: mikeyG at December 13, 2018 07:54 PM (LL1Be)

248 Hep cat not hero cat sheez
Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:52 PM (UdKB7)


Oh, got it. I thought 'hero cat' had something to do with the sandwiches.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 13, 2018 07:54 PM (t+qrx)

249 Flake thinks he's got a job with CNN lined up.

Jeff Zucker's just going to tell him "YOU DIDN'T STOP PENCE, YOU STUPID FVCK!"

Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2018 07:54 PM (pgXNG)

250 I gotta plead ignorance here. See, at my last job we did this all the time. Ask Whitey. Oh.

Posted by: Bob Mueller at December 13, 2018 07:54 PM (gC2IV)

251 Blondie cleans up well. She would be a modestly-attractive 7/10 without the heels and the expensive blonde perm.

As for why she takes that much effort, I suggest consulting Paolo.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2018 07:51 PM (ykYG2)

+++++
So now we're rating the attractiveness of female cartoon characters? Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:54 PM (2sCft)

252 No I got it wrong Blondie was a flapper and Dagwood's dad was rich but disowned him.

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:54 PM (UdKB7)

253 248 Oh, got it. I thought 'hero cat' had something to do with the sandwiches.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 13, 2018 07:54 PM (t+qrx)


It does in China.

You Leave Now.

You Been Heah Fo Hoah.

Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2018 07:55 PM (pgXNG)

254 The FBI developed the ability to convict based on forensic examination of bite marks.

Which, as it turns out, was all fucking bullshit.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 13, 2018 07:55 PM (hjaPQ)

255 You know, "Be Kind. Rewind". Like that.
Posted by: Bob Mueller

*triumphantly hoists leg of lamb*

Posted by: Kathleen Turner at December 13, 2018 07:55 PM (5RXy6)

256 Time for Congress to step in!!!!


Oh that's right congress changes hands in three weeks.


Curses, foiled again.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 13, 2018 07:55 PM (gnpaT)

257 /212 ...How much longer can this continue?
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How long? That's easy - the fact they're so brazenly political just illustrates that we've (the "People") lost. The agencies of the US Government have asserted their independent authority, they're Democrats, and that's it. It will continue perpetually until someone somewhere is put in jail for a long time for doing this kind of stuff, or until some nut frags one of the unindicted, unpunished people involved (and No, I'm not advocating for that - quite against it.)

We're all just living upon the good graces of the people in power in the various Alphabet Agencies, they're Democrats, and that's it.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at December 13, 2018 07:55 PM (db5dt)

258 Does this mean all the guilty pleas are null and void?

So now Flynn, Cohen, Manafort, Papadopoulos, Butina, all of them can simply apply to have their guilty pleas squashed and get the courts to order Trump's Justice Department to cease & desist from filing replacement charges or new charges of any kind ... right?

And this will all happen ... when?

Posted by: Bob Loblaw's Law Dog at December 13, 2018 07:56 PM (x+yK4)

259 No I got it wrong Blondie was a flapper and Dagwood's dad was rich but disowned him.


Huh. Everything about them was so 50s. They went back to the 20s?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 13, 2018 07:56 PM (fuK7c)

260 213
Speaking of deserve, how did Dagwood land Blondie?

A dweeb like that and a rack like hers? Even as a little kid it didn't seem right.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 13, 2018 07:49 PM (fuK7c)


Funny you should mention that. I saw the earliest comic strips from the 1930s. Dagwood was the son of a millionaire industrialist, who threatened to disinherit him if he married that floozy. But Dagwood was in love, so he went ahead anyway. Then his father made good on his threat, and he became a working stiff.

Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 07:56 PM (sdi6R)

261 Guys, I said NOT to delete anything. Wink wink, nudge nudge. Oh, look here's your Christmas bonus! It's cash this year.

Posted by: Team Mueller at December 13, 2018 07:56 PM (nAeGR)

262 The FBI developed the ability to convict based on forensic examination of bite marks.

Which, as it turns out, was all fucking bullshit.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 13, 2018 07:55 PM (hjaPQ)


*heaves sigh of relief*

Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at December 13, 2018 07:57 PM (t+qrx)

263 Wow... headline over at MSN.

No evidence FBI tried to destroy Texts.

Uh, even though they were destroyed, by the FBI.

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:57 PM (NgKpN)

264 We're all just living upon the good graces of the people in power in the various Alphabet Agencies, they're Democrats, and that's it.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at December 13, 2018 07:55 PM (db5dt)


Yep. Basically, this will all continue going on until the monetary shit hits the fan. Good news ... that shouldn't be all that far away, now.

Then, all bets are off.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2018 07:57 PM (J7rD2)

265 Hogmartin, is this better?

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2018 07:57 PM (U5tDi)

266 Until all the evidence they don't want anyone to see is gone? Was that like rhetorical?

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:48 PM (nAeGR)


What evidence?

Posted by: Especial Counsel Hrothgar at December 13, 2018 07:57 PM (f3oO4)

267 If you go to the front page, *all* the posts are in italic.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 13, 2018 07:58 PM (q7IoS)

268 So now we're rating the attractiveness of female cartoon characters? Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 13, 2018 07:54 PM (2sCft)


I claim Jessica Rabbit. Any of you homo-mugs so much as leer at her I will gut you like a trout.

Posted by: Count Francis de Monet at December 13, 2018 07:58 PM (QLvwG)

269 You take away the 19th?

You have a bunch of Congress-dudes arguing over which beer they will overcharge the Chinks and the Russkies for.




Posted by: mikeyG at December 13, 2018 07:58 PM (LL1Be)

270 From the Dagwood wiki:

'His favorite things in life include his wife Blondie, his kids, naps on the sofa, long baths, and food.'

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:58 PM (UdKB7)

271 Hogmartin, is this better?
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2018 07:57 PM (U5tDi)


Yep! All set. I bet it was autocorrect.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 13, 2018 07:58 PM (t+qrx)

272 212 ...How much longer can this continue?

"How Long". Sung ironically enough by Ace!

My guess would be until they get what they want. Laws. little people. Pffft.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:58 PM (nAeGR)

273 time to rethink public enemy #1? dillenger probably got a bad rap.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 13, 2018 07:59 PM (KP5rU)

274 No evidence FBI tried to destroy Texts.

Uh, even though they were destroyed, by the FBI.

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 07:57 PM (NgKpN)


No try. Do!

Posted by: Mr., Miaggggi at December 13, 2018 07:59 PM (J7rD2)

275 Thanks, hog. I bet you're right. Thanks for letting me know.

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2018 07:59 PM (U5tDi)

276 Trumps lawyers need to file an ethics Complaint against Mueller and his team for destroying evidence. This is unbelievably unethical behavior by a Prosecutor.

This is banana republic stuff. I am so disgusted.

Gonna drink now.

Posted by: Juicebox Hero at December 13, 2018 08:00 PM (haWye)

277 Well I am going to check out for a while. Stepped on one of the dogs toys this a.m and wrenched my back. Fricken hurts.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:00 PM (nAeGR)

278 Wow... headline over at MSN.

No evidence FBI tried to destroy Texts.

Uh, even though they were destroyed, by the FBI.

/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q

Funny thing about destroying evidence.
There's no longer any evidence.
One might think that's the whole point.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at December 13, 2018 08:00 PM (5RXy6)

279 270 From the Dagwood wiki:

'His favorite things in life include his wife Blondie, his kids, naps on the sofa, long baths, and food.'

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:58 PM (UdKB7)

Food seems kind of far down on that list.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 13, 2018 08:00 PM (Kpctk)

280 Veronica.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 08:00 PM (NLLmE)

281 Huh. Blondie was launched in 1930.

Dagwood was the playboy son of a billionaire who got disowned when he fell for the golddigger.

The story by the artist's son:

https://bit.ly/2EtPw8M

I would never have guessed any of that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 13, 2018 08:00 PM (fuK7c)

282 'I claim Jessica Rabbit.'

You can have her if I get Stupifying Jones.

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 08:00 PM (UdKB7)

283 you take jessica rabbit, I'm taking the california raisins girl

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 08:01 PM (7J5t2)

284 How many convictions have been overturned based on fraudulent DNA evidence produced by the FBI?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 13, 2018 08:01 PM (hjaPQ)

285 Anybody think those Flynn meeting notes will be forthcoming?

LOL. I kid.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 13, 2018 08:01 PM (wKrVf)

286 I don't know exactly how texting works, but, just like my browser history, you can retrieve it through the ISP or carrier, I would think.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 13, 2018 07:53 PM (ty7RM)
]

Dammit, do NOT contradict the narrative!

Posted by: Especial Counsel Hrothgar at December 13, 2018 08:01 PM (f3oO4)

287 Oh there's stuff happening alright, going through the motions of investigations while wasting money and time. Muellur, Huber and every district office in the nation. Take a few years to do something that should take a few weeks then determine what charges to file based on the political ideology of the target.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 13, 2018 08:01 PM (4thlk)

288 2018 will be glorious!

Enjoy the Show!

-Q

18 days left...

Posted by: Avenger at December 13, 2018 08:01 PM (70ScF)

289 It died around 1913.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 07:49 PM (/9p9e)

If you could go back in history and kill baby Woodrow Wilson.....

Posted by: Miklos, not at all progressive at December 13, 2018 08:01 PM (zCyNd)

290 272 212 ...How much longer can this continue?

"How Long". Sung ironically enough by Ace!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:58 PM (nAeGR)

But I can't help but have my suspicion
'Cause I ain't quite as dumb as I seem.

Such a great song.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2018 08:02 PM (GkIz4)

291 No evidence FBI tried to destroy Texts.

Look, there are no texts on these phones. Which proves that there never were any! QED...

Posted by: MSNPC at December 13, 2018 08:02 PM (nIvDu)

292 Tijuana schools closed for 3rd week due to caravan.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 13, 2018 08:02 PM (LL1Be)

293 270 From the Dagwood wiki:

'His favorite things in life include his wife Blondie, his kids, naps on the sofa, long baths, and food.'

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 07:58 PM (UdKB7)

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No booze? Fag.

Crap, now I can't host the Oscars.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2018 08:02 PM (gC2IV)

294 And this is how the clitons got away with all their crimes.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2018 08:02 PM (zLDYs)

295 dagwood had really fucked up hair. don't be fucking dagwood.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 13, 2018 08:03 PM (KP5rU)

296 278 Wow... headline over at MSN.

No evidence FBI tried to destroy Texts.

Uh, even though they were destroyed, by the FBI.
========
Any stories that don't fit the Progressive narrative are trees falling silently in the wilderness outside the Progressive ecosystem. If someone mis-reports or doesn't report on the occurrence of a given fact, maybe it didn't really happen and stuff.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at December 13, 2018 08:03 PM (db5dt)

297 and let's no misread this...or let's not let me misread this...the OIG used Pentagon and NSA shit to get strzok's texts despite muellers actions.

So...while team mueller is pretending SDNY can do something with campaign finance after THE FUCKING FORMER HEAD OF THE FEC SAID NOPE NOT A CRIME...the trump team knows mueller deleted evidence, altered 302's, and has biased democrat activists as lawyers and on and on

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 08:03 PM (7J5t2)

298 Deleted All Messages and Gave Them to Other FBI Agents To Use, Instead of Preserving Them As E

Can you say "consciousness of guilt?"

I can.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:04 PM (YqDXo)

299 The FBI made me what I am today!

Posted by: Richard Jewell at December 13, 2018 08:04 PM (hjaPQ)

300 Hey, remember all of those good, decent career Feebs who were all outrageously outraged by the politicization and were going to resign en masse?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at December 13, 2018 08:04 PM (5RXy6)

301
John has a long moustache. John has a long moustache.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 07:47 PM (nAeGR)
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What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: The chair against the wall at December 13, 2018 08:05 PM (vDqXW)

302 also...let's pretend SDNY eventually gets trump indicted because no one ever bothers to fire these assholes...first thing trump's lawyers are going to do is say: you used bullshit to get trump's lawyer to flip, that violates attorney client priv, and everything you learned since 2017 is fruit of the poisoned tree.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 08:05 PM (7J5t2)

303 It's funny as fvck that the UniParty is transparently corrupt while the party propaganda (MSM) wing tells us a thousand times everyday that any minute now the dumpster diving party prosecutors are going to find the literal needle in a haystack that WILL be used as a pretense for impeachment of the non-party President.

One small example - OSC issues stern warning to political appointees not to use "MAGA" while on official business because it violates the Hatch Act. Meanwhile party DoJ and FBI run continious coverup ops on what their own party crimes supposedly does not even rise to the level of an "appearance" of political bias... and then wipe memory of the fact that anyone questioned "appearances" in the first plce.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 13, 2018 08:06 PM (1g7ch)

304 lowandslow, I admire your ability to read 80,000 text messages and transcripts of 30+ Congressional Hearings.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:06 PM (DEtCz)

305 the fbi hands out public phones to all their "agents." that's big of them. pure as the driven snow, these fuckers are untouchable. i have a great idea, let the fbi investigate itself.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 13, 2018 08:06 PM (KP5rU)

306 also...let's pretend SDNY eventually gets trump indicted because no one ever bothers to fire these assholes...first thing trump's lawyers are going to do is say: you used bullshit to get trump's lawyer to flip, that violates attorney client priv, and everything you learned since 2017 is fruit of the poisoned tree.
Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 08:05 PM (7J5t2)
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Overruled!

Posted by: How'd ja like a nice Hawaiian Judge at December 13, 2018 08:06 PM (vDqXW)

307 >>also...let's pretend SDNY eventually gets trump indicted because no one ever bothers to fire these assholes...first thing trump's lawyers are going to do is say

You can't indict a sitting president is what they are going to say.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2018 08:07 PM (/tuJf)

308 The FBI? Sloppy. Very sloppy.

Posted by: Lavrenti Beria at December 13, 2018 08:08 PM (hjaPQ)

309 98 The Feral Barrel of Italics.
Posted by: t-bird at December 13, 2018 07:30 PM (lK7fO)

Feral barrel. I like that.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2018 08:08 PM (GkIz4)

310 289 It died around 1913.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 07:49 PM (/9p9e)

If you could go back in history and kill baby Woodrow Wilson.....
Posted by: Miklos, not at all progressive at December 13, 2018 08:01 PM (zCyNd)

Dec. 23rd 1913? When the created the Fed Reserve Bank?

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 08:08 PM (NgKpN)

311 See, MSNBCNNYTS reports, Top Men at the FBI initially looked at the phones and declared "nothing to see here," so pursuant to normal protocol the phones were then immediately wiped with a cloth and the deleted data over-written. Oh, and by the way, no copies of the texts were preserved, the Top Men didn't write down any of the texts, so according to the FBI and DOJ, all traces of the text messages have been utterly and uber-obliterated. The names of the Top Men involved have been redacted to preserve their privacy and the confidentiality of the FBI's actions. All memos, correspondence and other material related to any of the above have also been uber-obliterated and this post will self destruct in 3...2...1...

Posted by: RichardWindsor at December 13, 2018 08:09 PM (db5dt)

312 Nobody puts Chair against the wall in a corner.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 08:09 PM (NLLmE)

313

It died when AT&T was broken up.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 08:09 PM (PesD+)

314 Mueller didn't do anything that they didn't give Hillary immunity for.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2018 08:09 PM (oVJmc)

315 Nothing to See Here: After Mueller Was Forced to Fire Lisa Page and Peter Strzok for Scheming To Cook Up an "Insurance Policy," He Seized Their Phones and... Deleted All Messages and Gave Them to Other FBI Agents To Use, Instead of Preserving Them As E

O. But Y?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 08:09 PM (NWiLs)

316 I have traced the beginning of the ruination of our Republic to the time when cereal manufacturers began using so much glue to seal the inner bag that it's impossible to open without ripping it all to shit.

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:10 PM (MVjcR)

317
Bell Telephone

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 08:10 PM (PesD+)

318 Wonder if the Trump WH had deleted all their shit what the MFM would be saying? Yea, it's rhetorical. Note to Trump team. Erase, bleach bit, burn destroy everything. It apparently is OK to do.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:10 PM (nAeGR)

319 I'd just like to remind everyone that I was just an actor playing a part. In real life I wouldn't even associate with these motherfuckers.

Posted by: Efram Zimbalist, Jr. at December 13, 2018 08:11 PM (hjaPQ)

320 It's funny as fvck that the UniParty is transparently corrupt while the party propaganda (MSM) wing tells us a thousand times everyday that any minute now the dumpster diving party prosecutors are going to find the literal needle in a haystack that WILL be used as a pretense for impeachment of the non-party President.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 13, 2018 08:06 PM (1g7ch)
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It's also astounding that each time they emerge from the dumpster with a spoon, the propaganda media tell you this is most heinous spoon ever found.

Old Manafort charges? Brilliant!!

A trickle of Russian ads on Facebook? Monumental!!!

A guy who was briefly a foreign relations adviser has 2 mysterious meetings with foreigners where they plant the stories on him? HE CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE!!! Jail him! COLLUSION!!! Fanfare and Ticker tape.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2018 08:11 PM (vDqXW)

321 I believe I will change what I call the MSM...

They are now, the Gaslight Media.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 08:11 PM (NgKpN)

322 318 Wonder if the Trump WH had deleted all their shit what the MFM would be saying? Yea, it's rhetorical. Note to Trump team. Erase, bleach bit, burn destroy everything. It apparently is OK to do.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:10 PM (nAeGR)


New rules 'n shit.

Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 08:11 PM (sdi6R)

323 ...and he became a working stiff.
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That's what I said!

Posted by: Blondie, the flapper at December 13, 2018 08:11 PM (Evws/)

324 Here's a serious question...

Can the House committees turn their work product over to the senate GOP to continue their work such that it is?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 13, 2018 08:12 PM (qxq6t)

325
Good old "straight shooter" Bobby Mewler. He's as honest and clean as Jimmy Drama

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2018 08:12 PM (SiINZ)

326 You can't indict a sitting president is what they are going to say.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2018 08:07 PM (/tuJf)

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This is why I don't get how the NY AG can come out and outright admit, with no probable cause, that she is going to go on a witch hunt of Trump, his family and his circle, looking for crimes. Seems to be an admitted case of prosecutorial harassment.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 08:12 PM (ffYR/)

327 I see they have the first Lab grown steak. I bet it's pretty tasty.

Posted by: Barky McDogeaterface at December 13, 2018 08:12 PM (UdKB7)

328 When do we start putting fire down on these people?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 13, 2018 08:12 PM (vcatx)

329 A few years ago, all of this would have been dismissed as tinfoil-hat ravings.
And yet, here we are, living it !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2018 08:13 PM (mfOi4)

330 In which we learn that...

Ace has reached the max level for characters in a Pixy headline (including italic formatting characters).

E - vidently.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 9 Days 'til Solstice at December 13, 2018 08:13 PM (Fo+RN)

331 Nobody puts Chair against the wall in a corner.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 08:09 PM (NLLmE)
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Snort!

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2018 08:13 PM (vDqXW)

332 "lowandslow, I admire your ability to read 80,000 text messages and transcripts of 30+ Congressional Hearings.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:06 PM (DEtCz)"

Is that all you got? Some passive aggressive horseshit? I don't buy into this idiotic fantasy that there is some mechanism in place that will hold anyone at the DOJ and FBI accountable to their massive incompetency and partisanship.But you believe what you want.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 13, 2018 08:13 PM (4thlk)

333 I'd just like to remind everyone that I was just an actor playing a part. In real life I wouldn't even associate with these motherfuckers.

Posted by: Efram Zimbalist, Jr. at December 13, 2018 08:11 PM (hjaPQ)




Even Kookie wouldn't associate with them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2018 08:14 PM (SiINZ)

334 Can the House committees turn their work product over to the senate GOP to continue their work such that it is?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 13, 2018 08:12 PM (qxq6t)


YES! But only if they are honest, competent, and actually belong to an opposition party...

Posted by: Especial Counsel Hrothgar at December 13, 2018 08:14 PM (f3oO4)

335 What the actual....?!

*head explodes*

Posted by: T at December 13, 2018 08:14 PM (2PXwn)

336 Eh... nothing to see here. We conservatives will just take it up the ass, again.

Posted by: Roper at December 13, 2018 08:14 PM (uFu11)

337 Can the House committees turn their work product over to the senate GOP to continue their work such that it is?
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If we had serious GOP leaders with balls, they would simply issue publicly an "Interim Report" before the House changes hands and barf everything they have. Then the Senate and the public have it all.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at December 13, 2018 08:14 PM (db5dt)

338 @326
Well who's going to stop her?

She's a woman, she's black, has the correct politics and is targeting Marxist's enemy number one.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 13, 2018 08:14 PM (qxq6t)

339

I believe I will change what I call the MSM...



They are now, the Gaslight Media.


I've been calling the MFM "Progda" for a while now. They're the Deep State's propaganda arm and nothing that comes from them is anything else.

And I just lost a gig that me and B'Gal sorely needed. Merry Fucking Christmas to me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 13, 2018 08:15 PM (HaL55)

340 herr mueller is a great american. a straight shooter. greatest investigator of all time. let him finish his sacred journey. and write him another blank check. you people and your fucking justice. hilarious.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 13, 2018 08:15 PM (KP5rU)

341 310 289 It died around 1913.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 07:49 PM (/9p9e)

If you could go back in history and kill baby Woodrow Wilson.....
Posted by: Miklos, not at all progressive at December 13, 2018 08:01 PM (zCyNd)

Dec. 23rd 1913? When the created the Fed Reserve Bank?
Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 08:08 PM (NgKpN)


The 16th and 17th Amendments - Federal income tax and popular election of Senators.

The latter totally destroyed electoral checks and balances and the former fed the infant Leviathan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:15 PM (/9p9e)

342 And sexy cartoon characters?

Cheetara. Duh.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (vcatx)

343 Meanwhile no one is investigating Herr Mueller.

People are like cattle......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (Z+IKu)

344 WHAT IF I TOLD YOU ...
That you'd be born into the greatest nation in history -- only to see it turn into a Banana Republic before your eyes in a mere 50 years?

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (WqPYg)

345 Can the House committees turn their work product over to the senate GOP to continue their work such that it is?

Only if it's held thru the inaugurations period by an impartial third party. Like the FBI.

Posted by: t-bird at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (C78No)

346 342 And sexy cartoon characters?

Cheetara. Duh.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (vcatx)


Josie and the Pussycats gave me massive prepubescent boners.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (/9p9e)

347 herr mueller is a great american. a straight shooter. greatest investigator of all time. let him finish his sacred journey. and write him another blank check. you people and your fucking justice. hilarious.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 13, 2018 08:15 PM (KP5rU)
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The bedrock of any democracy is no-knock morning raids and an independent police state.

More people should know this!

Posted by: The Gaslight Media at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (vDqXW)

348 Well who's going to stop her?

She's a woman, she's black, has the correct politics and is targeting Marxist's enemy number one.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 13, 2018 08:14 PM (qxq6t)

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The next or acting US AG, I would think and hope. A State AG does not have unlimited power.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (ffYR/)

349
I need to smash the face of that little girl in the Cascade tv commercial.

Hey stupid little girl, who looks like the socialist cortez, you can't put dishes in the dishwasher until you first clean off the heavy stuff.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (PesD+)

350 344 WHAT IF I TOLD YOU ...
That you'd be born into the greatest nation in history -- only to see it turn into a Banana Republic before your eyes in a mere 50 years?
Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (WqPYg)


I was born in '60, so story of my life.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (/9p9e)

351 I saw Passive Aggressive Horseshit open for Band of Horses at the Crystal Ballroom in '09.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 08:18 PM (NWiLs)

352 Cheetara. Duh.


Toned glutes.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 08:18 PM (NLLmE)

353 lowandslow, if you had actually read any of the findings you might be better informed, Oh also I don't do passive/aggressive.I'll just call you a dolt to your face. So Dolt.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:18 PM (DEtCz)

354 WHAT IF I TOLD YOU ...
That you'd be born into the greatest nation in history -- only to see it turn into a Banana Republic before your eyes in a mere 50 years?

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (WqPYg)
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It came down with the Gramscian Virus.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2018 08:18 PM (vDqXW)

355 Kreplach the answer is yes, limited as usual only by classification issues.


But any member or committee of either chamber can share info/whatever with people in the other chamber, there are no set rules covering all topics. Unclassified, and especially committee or congressional work product or investigative info, can be shared, subject to the rules of each particular committee.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2018 08:18 PM (QDnY+)

356
Do people really think they should be able to just stick dirty dishes in the dishwasher?

Are these the same people who believe the idiotic logic in the Liberty Mutual tv ads?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 08:18 PM (PesD+)

357 @337
Yeah, that's a good point.
The house committee's need to issue a report calling out all of this bullshit and turn it over to the Senate.

They aren't going to do any of that of course because...

The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 13, 2018 08:18 PM (qxq6t)

358 BackwardsBoy: I just lost a gig that me and B'Gal sorely needed. Merry Fucking Christmas to me.

Well, Merry Christmas anyway.

Remember, when one door closes...

...a trap-door into a pit of snakes opens up and looks tempting. Don't do it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 9 Days 'til Solstice at December 13, 2018 08:19 PM (Fo+RN)

359 347: learned his gestapo ways on uncle georgie's knee. he learned well.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 13, 2018 08:20 PM (KP5rU)

360 I really love the gallows humor of AoS.

The most scary thing to me, as it should be to almost all of us, is that if the treasonous lying DOJ/FBI cabal feel empowered to do this shit to a sitting president and his staff (including a retired LTG), then any one of us lowly insignificant mere citizens can wind up bankrupt and languishing in prison for the unspeakable crime of spitting on the sidewalk.

Posted by: Especial Counsel Hrothgar at December 13, 2018 08:20 PM (f3oO4)

361 And I just lost a gig that me and B'Gal sorely needed. Merry Fucking Christmas to me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 13, 2018 08:15 PM (HaL55)

Shit, man. I'm sorry.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 08:20 PM (NWiLs)

362 'And sexy cartoon characters?
Cheetara. Duh. '

Those old Flash Gordon, Buck Rodgers, Tarzan strips had some hot babes.

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 08:20 PM (UdKB7)

363
I was born in '60, so story of my life.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (/9p9e)

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So, I'll be getting off your lawn then?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2018 08:20 PM (gC2IV)

364 Ben Had - pkg inbound for tomorrow.

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (MVjcR)

365 "257 /212 ...How much longer can this continue?
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How long? That's easy - the fact they're so brazenly political just illustrates that we've (the "People") lost. The agencies of the US Government have asserted their independent authority, they're Democrats, and that's it. It will continue perpetually until someone somewhere is put in jail for a long time for doing this kind of stuff, or until some nut frags one of the unindicted, unpunished people involved (and No, I'm not advocating for that - quite against it.)

We're all just living upon the good graces of the people in power in the various Alphabet Agencies, they're Democrats, and that's it."

Right. The coup happened long, long before Donald Trump was elected president. We are at the stage the Soviet Union had where there were illusions of justice, free speech, yadda, yadda. The next stage drops all kabuki.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (iw59Q)

366 318 Wonder if the Trump WH had deleted all their shit what the MFM would be saying? Yea, it's rhetorical. Note to Trump team. Erase, bleach bit, burn destroy everything. It apparently is OK to do.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:10 PM (nAeGR)

New rules 'n shit.
Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 08:11 PM

Yep. Oh our old phones, yea. tragic that, same with our private servers we kept in the bathroom. Pity that too.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (nAeGR)

367 350 344 WHAT IF I TOLD YOU ...
That you'd be born into the greatest nation in history -- only to see it turn into a Banana Republic before your eyes in a mere 50 years?
Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (WqPYg)


I was born in '60, so story of my life.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (/9p9e)

'59 here...

Yup.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (NgKpN)

368 Shit news BB. Bummer.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (NLLmE)

369 Posted by: Especial Counsel Hrothgar at December 13, 2018 08:20 PM (f3oO4)
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The true ruler of the US is waving hello.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (vDqXW)

370 363
I was born in '60, so story of my life.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (/9p9e)

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So, I'll be getting off your lawn then?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2018 08:20 PM (gC2IV)


Watch out for that first step as you back away. I'm on the 17th floor.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (/9p9e)

371 Cheetara seems to be some 80s thing. I didn't know there were children present.


Li'l Abner's girlfriend Daisy Mae, however...

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 13, 2018 08:22 PM (fuK7c)

372 "lowandslow, if you had actually read any of the
findings you might be better informed, Oh also I don't do
passive/aggressive.I'll just call you a dolt to your face. So Dolt.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:18 PM (DEtCz)"
Why do I need to read anything that came out of congressional hearings? What the fuck difference does it make? In a month it doesn't mean shit, it's just some archived testimony and papers. What the fuck?

Posted by: lowandslow at December 13, 2018 08:22 PM (4thlk)

373

Thanks y'all. Story of my life.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 13, 2018 08:22 PM (HaL55)

374 Weasel, you are too kind.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:22 PM (DEtCz)

375
Right. The coup happened long, long before Donald Trump was elected president. We are at the stage the Soviet Union had where there were illusions of justice, free speech, yadda, yadda. The next stage drops all kabuki.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (iw59Q)

Mandarins, China. It really didn't matter who the Emperor was.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 08:22 PM (NgKpN)

376 341
The 16th and 17th Amendments - Federal income tax and popular election of Senators.

The latter totally destroyed electoral checks and balances and the former fed the infant Leviathan.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:15 PM (/9p9e)


Yeah, the 16th, 17th, and the Fed all in the same year. A fucking trifecta.

The corpse has been twitching for 100 years, but that's about it. Now people are openly calling for the abolition of the last vestiges of the Republic: the Senate and the Electoral College, and have pure democracy, i.e. mob rule.

Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

377 374 Weasel, you are too kind.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:22 PM (DEtCz)
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Nope! YOU are.

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:23 PM (MVjcR)

378 WHAT IF I TOLD YOU ...
That you'd be born into the greatest nation in history -- only to see it turn into a Banana Republic before your eyes in a mere 50 years?
Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (WqPYg)


I was born in '60, so story of my life.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (/9p9e)

'59 here...

Yup.
Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (NgKpN)

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'62 here. Front row for the decline.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 08:23 PM (ffYR/)

379 19th.

Coup de gras.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 13, 2018 08:23 PM (LL1Be)

380 377 374 Weasel, you are too kind.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:22 PM (DEtCz)
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Nope! YOU are.
Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:23 PM (MVjcR)

Good God. Get a room.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 08:23 PM (NWiLs)

381 I was born in 1949 when Harry S Truman was president. Hell, even Harry would not like what has happened to America because I believe he loved America.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2018 08:24 PM (zLDYs)

382 Weasel, you are too kind.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:22 PM (DEtCz)
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Nope! YOU are.
Posted by: Weasel
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I thought I was the kind one...

Posted by: lin-duh galt at December 13, 2018 08:24 PM (kufk0)

383 Great googly moogly.


This Dem Julian Epstein clown on Tucker's show looks like he just woke up in a dumpster and hasn't showered, shaved, or combed his hair in a week.

Yikes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 13, 2018 08:24 PM (ptqGC)

384 '54 here. i saw fdr on the tv talkin about the depression. landmark shit, i tell ya.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM (KP5rU)

385 "344 WHAT IF I TOLD YOU ...
That you'd be born into the greatest nation in history -- only to see it turn into a Banana Republic before your eyes in a mere 50 years?

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (WqPYg) "



Kinda like if the ending of It's A Wonderful Life was all the neighbors coming over and taking everything Jimmy Stewart owned, then burning him and his family alive in the empty house.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM (mfOi4)

386
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I thought I was the kind one...
Posted by: lin-duh galt at December 13, 2018 08:24 PM (kufk0)
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You're the backup kind one!

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM (MVjcR)

387 318 Wonder if the Trump WH had deleted all their shit what the MFM would be saying? Yea, it's rhetorical. Note to Trump team. Erase, bleach bit, burn destroy everything. It apparently is OK to do.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:10 PM (nAeGR)


Imagine this scenario: the Trump WH lets it leak that they have deleted a bunch of stuff. The Dems go wild, and demand access, then find out ...

... the deleted stuff says only that Hillary is a drunken dyke, that Obama and Cory Booker are faggots, that Kameltoe is a roundheels slut, etc. You get the idea.

Hilarity would ensue.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM (YqDXo)

388 The culture in power will have "free speech" for a long time, and they will say "I have free speech" and they will not know what you are talking about--except, it's just that you want to commit thoughtcrimes and all.

If you didn't want to think the wrong way, you'd have free speech too.

Yes we will see the true depths of the vapidity of their thoughts at some point.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM (vDqXW)

389 The corpse has been twitching for 100 years, but that's about it. Now people are openly calling for the abolition of the last vestiges of the Republic: the Senate and the Electoral College, and have pure democracy, i.e. mob rule.
Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

They're also calling fo abolishing SCOTUS and, to a lesser extent, the Federal Court system as a whole.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM (tYPH9)

390 Thanks y'all. Story of my life.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 13, 2018 08:22 PM (HaL55)
Sorry, my graybox dude. Go all Milton on their ass and burn the place down.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM (QLvwG)

391 Any Ron or Ette have some good back pain advice? Stepped on a effing dog toy at 4:00 a.m. and totally screwed up my back. I felt it right away and I had to go down to my knees for a min or two before I could get back up. I took advil right away. And am doing the icy hot thing. Deciding to have some bourbon I think. Any other tips?

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (nAeGR)

392 Kinda like if the ending of It's A Wonderful Life was all the neighbors coming over and taking everything Jimmy Stewart owned, then burning him and his family alive in the empty house.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM (mfOi4)

"It's a Wonderful Life" meets "mother!"

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (NWiLs)

393 49 You misspelled 'hanging.' Conspirators in attempted coup, like traitors, are hanged.
Posted by: Qoheleth


By the neck. Until dead.

Posted by: rickb223

Lets not be hasty. There's also the balls to consider. Tis' the season after all.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (IeDO8)

394 I was born in '60, so story of my life.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 13, 2018 08:17 PM (/9p9e)

'59 here...

Yup.
Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 08:21 PM (NgKpN)

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'62 here. Front row for the decline.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 08:23 PM (ffYR/)

Yup.... chose as a Young Man to protect this great nation from Foreign enemies...

20 Years later came back to a Nation that was WAY different than when I chose to put my attention elsewhere.

Then have watched the decline accelerate for the last 20 years.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (NgKpN)

395 lowandslow, I applaud your "I will form an opinion with no factual basis strategy" .

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (DEtCz)

396 You're the backup kind one!
Posted by: Weasel
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Hrummmmpffff.....

Posted by: lin-duh galt at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (kufk0)

397 360
The most scary thing to me, as it should be to almost all of us, is that if the treasonous lying DOJ/FBI cabal feel empowered to do this shit to a sitting president and his staff (including a retired LTG), then any one of us lowly insignificant mere citizens can wind up bankrupt and languishing in prison for the unspeakable crime of spitting on the sidewalk using the wrong pronoun.
Posted by: Especial Counsel Hrothgar at December 13, 2018 08:20 PM (f3oO4)


Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (sdi6R)

398 "344 WHAT IF I TOLD YOU ...
That you'd be born into the greatest nation in history -- only to see it turn into a Banana Republic before your eyes in a mere 50 years?

Posted by: ShainS - #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 13, 2018 08:16 PM (WqPYg) "


We're not a banana republic. The type of republic we're heading toward is found further east of South America.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:27 PM (YqDXo)

399 Barak led the most corrupted government in the history of the USA, and there has been a few administrators to complete with for that.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2018 08:27 PM (/rm4P)

400 @375:

"Mandarins, China."

Excellent, yep. Threats to federal pensions are the paramount government concern.

The Administrative State has been the de facto government since at least WWII, and arguably since Wilson. The transition from actual liberty to lip service liberty happened some time afterwards.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 13, 2018 08:27 PM (iw59Q)

401 Lets not be hasty. There's also the balls to consider. Tis' the season after all.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (IeDO

Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 08:27 PM (NWiLs)

402

I just remembered the 3rd woman in the three women who remind me of each other:

Sally Kellerman
Elke Somer
...

Sally Kirkland

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 08:27 PM (PesD+)

403 Imagine this scenario: the Trump WH lets it leak that they have deleted a bunch of stuff. The Dems go wild, and demand access, then find out ...

... the deleted stuff says only that Hillary is a drunken dyke, that Obama and Cory Booker are faggots, that Kameltoe is a roundheels slut, etc. You get the idea.

Hilarity would ensue.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM

LOL. That would be epic trolling. It just is beyond the pale that all this shit on one side of the equation keeps going "poof" and the MFM and their buttboys are silent and or enabling.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM (nAeGR)

404 Minnfidel,

I strained my back a couple of weeks ago; apart from taking it easy, I slept with a heating pad under my back. The heating pad helped, I thought.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM (H5knJ)

405 Imagine this scenario: the Trump WH lets it leak that they have deleted a bunch of stuff. The Dems go wild, and demand access, then find out ...

... the deleted stuff says only that Hillary is a drunken dyke, that Obama and Cory Booker are faggots, that Kameltoe is a roundheels slut, etc. You get the idea.

Hilarity would ensue.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:25 PM (YqDXo)
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People still want a Trump jailed for daring to meet with a lawyer who was said to have some proof that Hillary Clinton committed crimes in Russia.

You know Campaign Finance laws, and all. It's unfair to find out whether the leader of the free world has actually committed crimes. Sounds nice--but we have the Rule of Finance Law!

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM (vDqXW)

406
Any Ron or Ette have some good back pain advice? Stepped on a effing dog
toy at 4:00 a.m. and totally screwed up my back. I felt it right away
and I had to go down to my knees for a min or two before I could get
back up. I took advil right away. And am doing the icy hot thing.
Deciding to have some bourbon I think. Any other tips?

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (nAeGR)

Sorry. I blew my back out Thanksgiving day preparing food for eight. I'm still in fairly constant pain, living on Advil.

Wish I could offer help/advice.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM (ptqGC)

407 396 You're the backup kind one!
Posted by: Weasel
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Hrummmmpffff.....
Posted by: lin-duh galt at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (kufk0)
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Okay, okay. You are exactly as kind as Ben Had. And you make a mean champagne cake. And you shoot pretty well, too!

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM (MVjcR)

408 The corpse has been twitching for 100 years, but that's about it. Now people are openly calling for the abolition of the last vestiges of the Republic: the Senate and the Electoral College, and have pure democracy, i.e. mob rule.
Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 08:23 PM (sdi6R)


Do they really want mob rule? Do leftists and SJWs think that they'd survive mob rule for more than about ten minutes?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM (YqDXo)

409 Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (sdi6R)

Thanks, don't know how I could have missed that latest progressive #NewCrime!

Posted by: Counsel Especial Hrothgar at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (f3oO4)

410 The most scary thing to me, as it should be to almost all of us, is that if the treasonous lying DOJ/FBI cabal feel empowered to do this shit to a sitting president and his staff (including a retired LTG), then any one of us lowly insignificant mere citizens can wind up bankrupt and languishing in prison for the unspeakable crime of spitting on the sidewalk using the wrong pronoun.
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And don't forget it. Don't do anything that makes you a blip on the radar screen. You know, like political speech and stuff.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (db5dt)

411 no-knock morning raids
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... for nonviolent, white-collar crimes.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (Evws/)

412 Sally Kellerman
Elke Somer
...

Sally Kirkland

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 08:27 PM

Sally Strothers ate all three of them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (nAeGR)

413 "I will form an opinion with no factual basis strategy" .


My opinion has been formed by watching the actual workings of the DOJ for decades. What have you been seeing from them is the better question.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (4thlk)

414 Barak led the most corrupted government in the history of the USA, and there has been a few administrators to complete with for that.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2018 08:27 PM (/rm4P)
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That's becoming clearer and clearer. But we will all be forced to cite "0 corruption" as was the official standing of the time, or be treated as if we were Alex Jones.

Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (vDqXW)

415 Any Ron or Ette have some good back pain advice? Stepped on a effing dog toy at 4:00 a.m. and totally screwed up my back. I felt it right away and I had to go down to my knees for a min or two before I could get back up. I took advil right away. And am doing the icy hot thing. Deciding to have some bourbon I think. Any other tips?
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (nAeGR)


Go to Wal-Mart.
Fall down.
Get slip and slide lawyer and collect your winnings.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (1g7ch)

416 You can't indict a sitting president is what they are going to say.
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nah, let's say Occasional Cortex beats trump in 2020 and they go after him.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (7J5t2)

417 Do they really want mob rule? Do leftists and SJWs think that they'd survive mob rule for more than about ten minutes?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM (YqDXo)

Yes and yes.

Posted by: Antifa at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (tYPH9)

418 Okay, okay. You are exactly as kind as Ben Had. And you make a mean champagne cake. And you shoot pretty well, too!
Posted by: Weasel
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You, sir, are too kind!

Posted by: lin-duh galt at December 13, 2018 08:30 PM (kufk0)

419 411 no-knock morning raids
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... for nonviolent, white-collar crimes.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2018 08:29 PM (Evws/)

Possession of hydroponic indoor tomato gardens and used green tea leaves.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 13, 2018 08:30 PM (NWiLs)

420

Strother Martin

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 08:30 PM (PesD+)

421 400 @375:

"Mandarins, China."

Excellent, yep. Threats to federal pensions are the paramount government concern.

The Administrative State has been the de facto government since at least WWII, and arguably since Wilson. The transition from actual liberty to lip service liberty happened some time afterwards.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 13, 2018 08:27 PM (iw59Q)

And that stemmed from the Supreme Court Decision that somehow decided you could have Sovereign Immunity, in a Republic.

Even if it wasn't in the Constitution.

Posted by: Don Q at December 13, 2018 08:30 PM (NgKpN)

422 Had company Christmas party at the Blueprint brewery
http://blueprintbrewco.com/our-tap-room/
Had the Barleyville Brown and White Zombie, tried the Cranberry Ale, The Ruler and Tribal Stout with Coffee.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2018 08:30 PM (/rm4P)

423 Sorry. I blew my back out Thanksgiving day preparing food for eight. I'm still in fairly constant pain, living on Advil.

Wish I could offer help/advice.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM

Thanks, and sorry to hear that. I've done it before. Hoping for healing fast I am supposed to take my bride of 25 years out dancing and I suck enough without back pain.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM (nAeGR)

424 408:

"Do they really want mob rule? Do leftists and SJWs think that they'd survive mob rule for more than about ten minutes?"

They have survived mob rule for a long while, largely due to state actors who act as the mob's enforcers.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM (iw59Q)

425 Do they really want mob rule? Do leftists and SJWs think that they'd survive mob rule for more than about ten minutes?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM (YqDXo)



They think they'll be running the mob. Oh look Dr. Frankenstein your experiment seems to have gotten away

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM (SiINZ)

426 nood reporter party

Posted by: mikeyG at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM (LL1Be)

427

nood

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM (PesD+)

428 I built a lot of the Blueprint brewery last summer

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM (/rm4P)

429 408
Do they really want mob rule? Do leftists and SJWs think that they'd survive mob rule for more than about ten minutes?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:28 PM (YqDXo)


If they think they're in the majority and have all the Fed alphabet agencies on their side, why not?

Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM (sdi6R)

430 Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (nAeGR)
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If it's a soft tissue deal then absolute rest in a comfortable position. Do not move at all if you can help it. And either ice or heat. Can't remember which. And pills.

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM (MVjcR)

431 Of course there is a nood, I just got here.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2018 08:32 PM (/rm4P)

432 We've just returned from dinner with two close, conservative friends.

Boy oh boy, did we fill the ears of any progs sitting near us. And the four of us believe things are going to get bigly worse in 2019.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 13, 2018 08:32 PM (ptqGC)

433 Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM

Thanks. Looks like I am sleeping in the recliner tonight!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:32 PM (nAeGR)

434

I just realized... Sefton is younger than my baby sister.

Posted by: mindful webworker - 9 Days 'til Solstice at December 13, 2018 08:32 PM (Fo+RN)

435 Re the back problems cited above, I'd suggest - when the pain subsides enough - doing very light deadlifts. By very light, I mean perhaps holding two soup cans. (Seriously.)

Do them with perfect form (get help if unclear on what that is), and then move up in weight over weeks as you get bored.

Back problems often result simply from weak backs. People do situps for abs, and may do leg exercises, but what do they do for the lower back muscles? Zip.

Do light deadlifts and prepare to be amazed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:33 PM (YqDXo)

436 Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (nAeGR)

If the over the counter stuff does not work you may need to see a doctor and get some muscle relaxants. Once it heals up a little and you can move again the doctor should give you a list of back exercises to do to strengthen the muscles. Every day for the rest of your life. Exercises are mostly to strengthen the stomach muscles. My doctor said everything down there is connected and you strengthen the stomach muscles to help the back. Whatever, but it has worked for me for the past 5 years.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 13, 2018 08:33 PM (8Is7P)

437 1970 I was 10 years old and it still seemed possible we would be living in space and under the oceans by the year 2000. After going to the moon in ten years, it seemed like in 30 years we would be so far advanced that stuff like we are seeing now wouldn't even matter. Of course I was only 10 and didn't know shit.

Posted by: freaked at December 13, 2018 08:33 PM (UdKB7)

438 Maybe stupid question, but Why would the DOJ SC be giving phones used in his office to FBI? Why would they intermingle equipment?

Posted by: Ever at December 13, 2018 08:33 PM (1Zh0U)

439 Minnifield -- Doan's pills is all I can suggest.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2018 08:33 PM (NLLmE)

440 If they think they're in the majority and have all the Fed alphabet agencies on their side, why not?
Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM (sdi6R)


I hear you, but how many actually support SJWs, and how many just put up with them?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:34 PM (YqDXo)

441 433 Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:31 PM

Thanks. Looks like I am sleeping in the recliner tonight!
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:32 PM (nAeGR)
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All kidding aside -I've done that twice and each time would have bet that I'd ruptured a disc or something. Laying immobile on the couch/bed for a day or so allowed the aggravated parts to calm down. Maybe a muscle relaxant/ anti-inflammatory.

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:34 PM (MVjcR)

442 Any Ron or Ette have some good back pain advice? Stepped on a effing dog
toy at 4:00 a.m. and totally screwed up my back. I felt it right away
and I had to go down to my knees for a min or two before I could get
back up. I took advil right away. And am doing the icy hot thing.
Deciding to have some bourbon I think. Any other tips?

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2018 08:26 PM (nAeGR)

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CBC oil (not the Cob here) is supposed to be pretty effective, as are the stick on heating pads that last for 3-4 hours. Hope it feels better soon.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 08:35 PM (ffYR/)

443 438 After Strzok and Page released from SCO.

Posted by: Ever at December 13, 2018 08:35 PM (1Zh0U)

444 I've been doing PT for a month on my back...good luck to you.
Try going to you primary care and getting a referral to physical medicine. I get a combo of electronic stimulation, massage, chiro, and stretching, and exercises each session for a $25 copay...totally worth it.

Posted by: lin-duh galt at December 13, 2018 08:35 PM (kufk0)

445 I was amazed by how much better my lower back and knees felt after taking up squats again.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 13, 2018 08:35 PM (Kpctk)

446 lowandslow, What I see is a weaponized bunch of bureaucrats at the DOJ. What I strive for is to read enough of the facts to make an informed decision.

Thank You , this has been a pleasant discussion and I look forward to doing it again.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2018 08:37 PM (DEtCz)

447 Of course there is a nood, I just got here.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2018 08:32 PM (/rm4P)

So you could say that you've been "Skipped", then.

Posted by: Antifa at December 13, 2018 08:37 PM (tYPH9)

448 Um folks, states immediately claimed sovereign immunity after Independence in 1776 as these republics were successors to the king who also had it (the idea is that the fount of law cannot be found to be unlawful--thus the kings agents could commit wrongs but not the king himself). Thus, you could not use the states' courts to sue a state without its permission.

The new federal government that was created also claimed immunity from lawsuits about their actions and so forth. Basically, every government has some form of immunity in order to function. What has happened though is that judges created absolute immunity for them and prosecutors and only qualified for police.

This was by judicial doctrine as a separation of powers issue where you could not use the judicial system to sue prosecutors or judges for their official acts, even if those actions were corrupt. The recourse, like to punish misbehaving officers, is the political system of impeachment and removal from office. Not sure if the state judicial systems retained that immunity in that way after the 14th Amendment revolution.

Posted by: whig at December 13, 2018 08:37 PM (ROzyM)

449 Posted by: lin-duh galt at December 13, 2018 08:35 PM (kufk0)
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Someone as young and beautiful as you can't possibly have old age problems!

Posted by: Weasel at December 13, 2018 08:37 PM (MVjcR)

450 442

CBD oil, I mean.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 13, 2018 08:39 PM (ffYR/)

451 Exercises are mostly to strengthen the stomach muscles. My doctor said everything down there is connected and you strengthen the stomach muscles to help the back.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 13, 2018 08:33 PM (8Is7P)


Yes and no. The stomach muscles oppose the lower back muscles, but so do the hamstrings. Strengthening the hamstrings - e.g., by running, or exercises - tends to tighten them at the expense of the lower back muscles, which are put into continuous tension as the pelvis tilts toward the hamstrings. Same thing with the stomach muscles. Opposing muscles need to be comparable in strength, or excessive strain is thrown onto the weaker set. (Think worn out shock absorbers.) Problems with plantar fasciitis? Weak calf muscles throwing onto connective tissue strain that they can't handle.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:39 PM (YqDXo)

452 445 I was amazed by how much better my lower back and knees felt after taking up squats again.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 13, 2018 08:35 PM (Kpctk)


Take up deadlifts, too. Prepare to be amazed at how much better your lower back feels.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 13, 2018 08:40 PM (YqDXo)

453 Uh oh. When Adam Schiff hears about this Mueller will be in real trouble. Swallwell will be even worse. Boy will they raise hell.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at December 13, 2018 08:41 PM (VaN/j)

454 I'm older than you think...

Posted by: lin-duh galt at December 13, 2018 08:41 PM (kufk0)

455 Had more comments after the nood alert lately than firsts

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2018 08:42 PM (/rm4P)

456 Sally Strothers ate all three of them.
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Young, thin Sally or older, fat Sally??

Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2018 08:43 PM (Evws/)

457 I think this country needs a large scale march of normals on Washington to re-ratify the Bill of Rights, and announce publicly that anyone or any body of "government" that does not respect those rights does not have the consent of the governed.

Pitchforks and torches optional.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 13, 2018 08:44 PM (SqopC)

458 This news is terribly slanted.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at December 13, 2018 08:51 PM (wFDuq)

459 If it was up to me, I would have this investigated until Mueller's house is sold or repossessed and he can't afford to defend anymore, and charge him with perjury for every denial he makes and then as part of a plea deal get him to him plead guilty of colluding with the Russians at Obama's (both) Hillary's, and Comey's instruction.

But that's me.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 13, 2018 08:52 PM (IeDO8)

460 Christmas Miracles.

Posted by: Zombie Alan Rickman


"We're gonna need some more FBI guys, I guess" - Zombie Paul Gleason

Posted by: Sharkman at December 13, 2018 08:53 PM (O033+)

461 459 If it was up to me, I would have this investigated until Mueller's house is sold or repossessed and he can't afford to defend anymore, and charge him with perjury for every denial he makes and then as part of a plea deal get him to him plead guilty of colluding with the Russians at Obama's (both) Hillary's, and Comey's instruction.

But that's me.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn

That's right Dirks--the process is the punishment.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 13, 2018 08:53 PM (IeDO8)

462 461 459 If it was up to me, I would have this investigated until Mueller's house is sold or repossessed and he can't afford to defend anymore, and charge him with perjury for every denial he makes and then as part of a plea deal get him to him plead guilty of colluding with the Russians at Obama's (both) Hillary's, and Comey's instruction.

But that's me.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn

That's right Dirks--the process is the punishment.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn

Agreed.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 13, 2018 08:55 PM (IeDO8)

463 If it was up to me, I would have this investigated until Mueller's house is sold or repossessed and he can't afford to defend anymore, and charge him with perjury for every denial he makes and then as part of a plea deal get him to him plead guilty of colluding with the Russians at Obama's (both) Hillary's, and Comey's instruction.

But that's me.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 13, 2018 08:52 PM (IeDO
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Hah, until you have threatened members of my family, you have no idea what it's like to be me!

Nah, I'd sell them down the river--but you see how it works with a human, right?

Posted by: Robert Mueller at December 13, 2018 09:09 PM (vDqXW)

464 There will be a revolution the likes of which bone-heads like Mueller cannot imagine.

If you have dreams in your head that you will be victorious, Dog Face, you will be wrong.

Only in your fantasy world will the American people lie down and die for you.

Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Witch at December 13, 2018 10:58 PM (6BOW3)

465 My how far we've fallen, that such a revelation as this has become so passe as to not be headed by the Flaming Skull.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 13, 2018 11:29 PM (o7l6R)

466 Are you fucking kidding me? Someone needs to be swinging from a rope...

Posted by: model_1066 at December 14, 2018 12:16 AM (k+rN6)

467 They may have "scrubbed" the phones, BUT have they scrubbed the call logs of the Phone COMPANY?
That information will only contain the following.
Location from which each call was initiated.Called number.Duration of call.
Phones are identified by both the service-provider SIM card info AND the unique IMEI number of the actual phone. ALL phone companies have that data. Furthermore, a "US" standard phone will not automatically work if you travel to a different country and swap SIM cards.

The Cell towers talk to a central computer that selects the optimum connection as you move, which is why the entire system works in the first place. Triangulating the signal-strength data will provide a location of the phone, whenever it is turned on. It is, essentially a tracking device; maybe not down to a few metres, but a system that can, and does, track MILLIONS of phones SIMULTANEOUSLY. How does anyone think the Telcos do their billing?

If you are planning anything naughty, LEAVE YOUR PHONE AT HOME.
And NEVER, EVER say anything on any phone that you would not like to hear played back in a courtroom.

Posted by: Bruce at December 14, 2018 07:01 PM (7rlrd)

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