Glenn Reynolds: I Deleted My Twitter Account Because It Was Making My Life Worse

And exposing me to the worse that other people had to offer, I think he means.


I deactivated my Twitter account about a week ago. I was partly acting on impulse, because the social media site had just, for no obvious reason, "permanently banned" someone I follow, something that seems to be happening more and more. But I was also acting on my growing belief that Twitter is, well, horrible.

All social media have their issues. The "walled garden" character they create is the antithesis of the traditional Internet philosophy of openness. They are actually consciously designed to be addictive to their users — one company that consults on such issues is actually called Dopamine Labs -- and they tend to soak up a huge amount of time in largely profitless strivings for likes and shares. They promote bad feelings and bad behavior: I saw a cartoon listing social media by deadly sins, with Facebook promoting envy, Instagram promoting pride, Twitter promoting wrath, Tinder promoting lust and so on. It seemed about right.

[I]f you set out to design a platform that would poison America’s discourse and its politics, you'd be hard pressed to come up with something more destructive than Twitter. Twitter has the flaws of the old Usenet newsgroups, but on a much bigger scale.

Even the "blogosphere" of the early 21st century, in which independently run blogsites posted items on news, and responded both to Big Media stories and to each other, was more like traditional media in some respects than like Usenet or social media....

A story that spread like wildfire through the blogosphere still did so over the better part of a day, not over minutes, and it was typically pretty easy to find the original item and get context, something the culture of blogging encouraged.

...

Twitter is more like Usenet than blogs, but in many ways it's worse... The "retweet," "comment" and "like" buttons are immediate. A retweet sends a posting, no matter how angry or misinformed, to all the retweeter’s followers, who can then do the same to their followers, and so on, in a runaway chain reaction.

Unlike blogs, little to no thought is required (the character limit discourages it), and in practice very few people even follow the link (if there is one) to "read the whole thing."

Reynolds notes that "journalists" and "pundits" are among the heaviest users (and therefore abusers) of Twitter, probably enjoying how very little work they have to do to "keep their visibility up."

But laziness teaches further laziness, and people get addicted to the fire-and-forget style of twitter, where you don't have to actually read an article and certainly not the original documents it may have been based on.

Just add your own one-second-of-thought tag to the tweet and launch it out into the world and sit back and wait for your like-minded partisans to cheer you for your Outstanding Twittering.

And of course none of those people will bother to read past the twitter headline either. But at least they'll have an excuse -- Jonah Goldberg tweeted this out!!!

He must have read this before retweeting it, right?

Or... wrong.

Twitter is like a game of Information Dominoes, where the dominoes have already been laid out for you on the gym floor, and all you have to do is tap one on the top to send dozens of lines of dominoes tipping over.

And yet no one along this path of viral transmission of information seems to give any thought to the consideration, "Maybe I ought to ascertain this viral claim is true before coughing it out all over the world's face."

The only way to stop this pandemic of falsehood is to correct and retract, and the only way to find out if you need to correct and retract (assuming you don't do the work yourself, which, let's face it, our lazy "Information Elites" never do), is to actually read the evidence presented by someone who did do the work.

But a lot of these people, like Jonah Goldberg, don't have the time to just read the digest of someone else's work either, and are quite happy to leave a completely-false tweet out there, infecting more people with a lie.

Tim Pool makes a good point about the media's -- and media allies like Jonah Goldberg's -- practice of SCREAMING OUT fake news and then whispering the correction.

He makes a very insightful point: This creates two different realities, one believed by those who saw the Fake News, and who think that's real, and another reality by those who saw the Fake News and also the retraction or debunking, and who thus know the original claim was false.

The media creates divisions and hatreds in our societies -- almost deliberately, though I think a lot of it is just due to partisan pique and a complete unwillingness to admit error -- by not giving their corrections and retractions the same SCREAMING promotion they gave to the Fake News.

Now, when people talk about the NPR story, there'll be people who only read the headline -- the headline Jonah Goldberg retweeted out to his 100,000+ "followers" -- and they will think those saying that news item is false are crazy or lying.

It's not good for society when two camps have contradictory beliefs about the basic facts they build their worldviews on -- and those who do this deliberately, or who are churlish and grudging about correcting LIES they pumped out to the world (albeit unwillingly) are adding to the strife and division they write one column every two weeks decrying.

It would be good if we could all agree on the facts, wouldn't it?

But for that to happen, those who promote fake news have to be a lot more honorable and candid about also promoting the correction.

And it would also be nice if those who swear to be Congnitive Light-Workers would actually prove this by reading articles and original documents from time to time, instead of just hitting the "Retweet" button with the mechanical fury of a misfiring industrial robot.

Oh well, I'm sure Jonah Goldberg has learned his lesson and apologized for the dismissive sneer he gave to someone trying, correctly, to correct the falsehoods he was spreading.

I'm just sure.




Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:41 PM




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1 Never twitted.....

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 06:40 PM (ffWPP)

2 Twitter delenda est

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 03, 2018 06:40 PM (tjRMO)

3 I used to like Jonah, but he does seem to be morphing into Jonah the Hut.

Posted by: pep at December 03, 2018 06:40 PM (T6t7i)

4 At Pizza the Hutt ate himself.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 03, 2018 06:41 PM (tjRMO)

5 Better to listen to other twitters tweeting about twitter..... when you say it like that, sounds kinda beta and soylike.....

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 06:42 PM (ffWPP)

6 You silly prole, how dare you insinuate I relentlessly shill for my supposed political foes on the flimsiest pretexts at all times! Inconceivable!

Posted by: trev006 at December 03, 2018 06:42 PM (qqEFK)

7 It would be interesting to see how further twitter devolves once all conservatives or right leaning people are banned or completely shadow banned.


It will be a total echo chamber but the left's main impulse is to subsume and destroy so what avenues will they use to further ostracize and police once their is ostensibly nobody to destroy or police?



Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2018 06:43 PM (qxq6t)

8 Dangit, rad the content...

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at December 03, 2018 06:43 PM (+BN1u)

9 All of this whining from these Extremely Serious sellouts like Jonah is really getting old. Plausible my ass; they're pushing this nonsense as deliberate political opposition to a large group of people they claim to advocate for, and they're doing it to line their pockets.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 03, 2018 06:44 PM (eAshZ)

10 7
It would be interesting to see how further twitter devolves once all
conservatives or right leaning people are banned or completely shadow
banned.


That's easy. They'll turn on each other. Their only goal is to demonstrate their superiority to others. If we aren't around as a foil, they'll find another.

Posted by: pep at December 03, 2018 06:44 PM (T6t7i)

11 When I became a man, childish things put aside ...

Posted by: Adriane the The Whole is Crazy But Me & Thee Critic ... at December 03, 2018 06:45 PM (LPnfS)

12 {I}f you set out to design a platform that would poison America's discourse and its politics, you'd be hard pressed to come up with something more destructive than Twitter. Twitter has the flaws of the old Usenet newsgroups, but on a much bigger scale.

Meh. I don't use Twitter but there's nothing evil about the concept. It's just a shitty web site. Big whoop. It's not a major source of the nation's ills. Those ills come from much more serious and worrisome places.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 03, 2018 06:45 PM (q45uC)

13 Heard from a twenty something that Snapchat is what's happening.... twitter may end up being MySpace.....

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 06:45 PM (ffWPP)

14 Whats wrong with gab?

Posted by: ramondo at December 03, 2018 06:45 PM (HKloY)

15 "7
It would be interesting to see how further twitter devolves once all
conservatives or right leaning people are banned or completely shadow
banned.


Posted by: Kreplach at December 03, 2018 06:43 PM (qxq6t) "
They'll start making use of certain social media effectively mandatory. It's already started with jobs that require a review of your social media; if you claim you don't use it, they just kick you out and toss your application.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 03, 2018 06:46 PM (eAshZ)

16 It's not good for society when two camps have contradictory beliefs about the basic facts they build their worldviews on"

Really? 'Cause this isn't new. Recall the "lie makes it 'round the world..." bit from quite a few years ago...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 03, 2018 06:46 PM (6qErC)

17 They'll start making use of certain social media effectively mandatory.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 03, 2018 06:46 PM (eAshZ)


It's a tax!!

Posted by: Benedict Roberts, Bench Warmer at December 03, 2018 06:47 PM (q45uC)

18
>>>I used to like Jonah, but he does seem to be morphing into Jonah the Hut.


Posted by: pep at December 03, 2018 06:40 PM (T6t7i)<<<

Ain't no whale going to be able to eat me!!!

Posted by: Jonah *is* the Whale at December 03, 2018 06:48 PM (dEfTh)

19 You can stay on Twitter but yoh have to play by their rules, and you can't be sure exactly what those rules are.

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 06:48 PM (/rm4P)

20 No big loss.

Reading Glenn Reynolds' tweets was like eating a year-old frozen burrito at a truck stop and then racing to the john before the contents of your colon start dribbling down the back of your legs.

Whoa, did you read what I just wrote? Damn, am I a master wordsmith or what? Where else can you find such sparkling prose?

What? Oh, the couch says I am too humble.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at December 03, 2018 06:48 PM (DuAZ5)

21 I like @fuctup mind

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2018 06:48 PM (x7OgJ)

22 Stopped visiting twitter for about a week. When I started reading it again (briefly) the only term I could connect to it was "downer."

I'm still addicted to instagram but I've cut out twitter which is a life improvement. My Instagram is mostly non political and non celebrity and it's still enjoyable.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 03, 2018 06:49 PM (jUVms)

23 "12
Meh. I don't use Twitter but there's nothing
evil about the concept. It's just a shitty web site. Big whoop. It's
not a major source of the nation's ills. Those ills come from much more
serious and worrisome places.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 03, 2018 06:45 PM (q45uC)"
You're very, very, wrong here. Most of the modern social platforms have entire teams of people deliberately structuring every last detail of their platform to alter users' behavior in ways that benefit the platform to the detrement of the user and public stated social purpose of the platform.
We're talking really cynical, evil shit that would get your psych license yanked if you pulled it in a squishy social sciences stufy.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 03, 2018 06:49 PM (eAshZ)

24 The conundrum is, conservatives leaving Twitter and Social Media is exactly the outcome the Left wants.

I don't really know how to both punish these companies yet not also unilaterally disarm.

It would be like Republicans boycotting networks and never running campaign ads. You'd get destroyed in the election and yet the network would be fine.

Posted by: Blago at December 03, 2018 06:49 PM (UfkIY)

25 You could definitely make a "both sides do it" argument in terms of political "facts," except:

1) Fox News has Cavuto, Shep, and Williams faithfully parroting the liberal line. By contrast, any other channel exclusively features NeverTrump as the true face of conservatism.

2) Facebook specifically and Big Tech in general happily ignore antifa and Islamic threats, while suppressing even milquetoast conservatives. It's buying up the "public" space then pushing half the American public out.

Which works as a colonialist strategy, until the natives realize what's happening and eliminate the invaders.

Posted by: trev006 at December 03, 2018 06:49 PM (qqEFK)

26 twitter is good it exposes them

Posted by: DJ3Way at December 03, 2018 06:50 PM (bhPL1)

27 I don't know who Glenn Reynolds is but he must be a good guy 'cause he gave up teh twatter.

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2018 06:51 PM (x7OgJ)

28 Whats wrong with gab?

The bigger Internet fish (Facebook, Google, Apple, et. al.) will shut down Gab, or any other alternative platform if they become too much of a threat.

They have a simple approach - all small social media outlets have to follow the same censorship policies as big social media outlets.

For example, if the Proud Boys are banned by Twitter, and Gab fails to do so, then Gab is deemed guilty of "hate speech". Gab does this enough, and they get blocked from any access or mention from the big social media and Internet platforms.

Posted by: The ARC of History at December 03, 2018 06:51 PM (TEv5V)

29 -
--
They'll start making use of certain social media
effectively mandatory. It's already started with jobs that require a
review of your social media; if you claim you don't use it, they just
kick you out and toss your application.


Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 03, 2018 06:46 PM

---------------------------------

If they were smart, they'd toss the rest and choose from amongst the non-social-media candidates.

Posted by: irright at December 03, 2018 06:51 PM (RVcmP)

30 Twitter has become like a Post Office that passes judgement on your letter before delivering it. And Hillary is the Post-Mistress. And Prison Matron.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 03, 2018 06:51 PM (Ndje9)

31 27 Law Professor

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 06:52 PM (/rm4P)

32 27 Tennessee maybe

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 06:52 PM (/rm4P)

33
I don't really know how to both punish these companies yet not also unilaterally disarm. 

Posted by: Blago at December 03, 2018 06:49 PM (UfkIY)

Seize Facebook lock, stock, and barrel. Imprison the corporate officers. Turn the thing over to the Winklevoss twins. Do the same to at least one major TV channel, maybe CNN.

Once the left realizes they might lose -everything-, they might wise up.

Posted by: trev006 at December 03, 2018 06:53 PM (qqEFK)

34 Glenn Reynolds is instapundit.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 03, 2018 06:53 PM (jUVms)

35 I didn't like the movie that much, but I see you point.


But in all seriousness, there is absolutely a real, and likely highly unhealthy, phenomena here.

Not just the rapid retweeting and nonsense part (this is important), but the construction of different realities.

It becomes harder to even talk to people about issues when all nuance is gone from any conversation, and their world view is reinforced by, well, years of "fake news" and skimming click-bait headlines.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 06:53 PM (GBteo)

36 Hey everybody.

I abandoned my Twitter account about a year and a half ago, when an SJW complained about me and the site demanded I delete a tweet in order to continue using the site.

I don't know if I can delete my entire history there, but I'd like to.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 03, 2018 06:53 PM (miE9U)

37
It is not so much that there are two diametricly opposed world views in conflict as that social media allow both sides to never STFU about them. And one side views mob action to out and destroy members of the other side as a social good.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 03, 2018 06:54 PM (XdWyA)

38 If you can not pithily summarize the current political narrative in 140 characters (or less), you should not be allowed to tweet.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 06:54 PM (f3oO4)

39 Is A. B. Stoddard a Twitter fave? She claims that under Trump, Republicans are like children of alcoholic parents.


How sweet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2018 06:54 PM (ptqGC)

40 But if you get red of Twitter, how will you be able to see my side of the story??
https://twitter.com/Neil_deGrabass/status/
1069438984693047296

Posted by: Neil deGrabass at December 03, 2018 06:55 PM (Evws/)

41 If you can not pithily summarize..."

Aw, pith off!

/heh

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 03, 2018 06:55 PM (6qErC)

42 That a supposed Conservative would deem himself a 'thought leader' is very scary.

Thought Leader... sounds very communist to me.

Posted by: Don Q at December 03, 2018 06:55 PM (NgKpN)

43 Well, I've got bluebell's lemon chicken nearly ready to come out of the oven.

Later, dear hordlings.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2018 06:55 PM (ptqGC)

44 Well, I've got bluebell's lemon chicken nearly ready to come out of the oven."

Bet bluebell's family is po'd you've got her dinner...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 03, 2018 06:56 PM (6qErC)

45 It was not a plausible news story to anyone who was paying attention, Jonah.

What bothers me so much about journalists today is how little they actually know. They might write better than I do but they don't seem to know more than I do.

Thought leader my ass.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2018 06:57 PM (/tuJf)

46 Is A. B. Stoddard a Twitter fave?

I've never heard of her, so...probably.

Posted by: tu3031 at December 03, 2018 06:57 PM (sf1AO)

47 This came up the other morning on ONT if you can see a Twitter account without having one. I know I look up some and read the content without a account.

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 06:57 PM (/rm4P)

48
It becomes harder to even talk to people about issues when all nuance is gone from any conversation, and their world view is reinforced by, well, years of "fake news" and skimming click-bait headlines. 

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 06:53 PM (GBteo)

This is a fault of people in general, not just Big Tech. I'm sure in the 1930's you had Nazis and Reds beating each other in running street fights after reading propaganda broadsheets, the difference is that the Western nations had professional and intelligent governments that didn't obviously hate their own people.

That didn't stop Hitler from conquering Europe, nor did it stop the rise of ideology.

Posted by: trev006 at December 03, 2018 06:57 PM (qqEFK)

49 "...the worst that other people..."

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 03, 2018 06:57 PM (kaRc1)

50 Er, Jonah? Isn't that the definition of "spin"? Maybe not mind-boggling spin, but certainly lazy spin?

Oh, never mind.

Posted by: T at December 03, 2018 06:57 PM (2PXwn)

51
As for your "thought leader status", Jonah - leader according to whom?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 03, 2018 06:57 PM (XdWyA)

52 A.B.C. Stoddard is on Fox news and often a call in guest on Chris Stigall 1210am Phila.

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 06:58 PM (/rm4P)

53 This came up the other morning on ONT if you can see a Twitter account without having one. I know I look up some and read the content without a account.

Yep - I read a number of leftist Twitter accounts, which is very illuminating, but I have no intention of acquiring a Twitter account.

Posted by: The ARC of History at December 03, 2018 06:58 PM (TEv5V)

54 Send a man a tweet and he stop fishing a moment to read it.

Teach a man to tweet and he will give up his hobby of fishing.

Posted by: Ben Shapiro at December 03, 2018 06:58 PM (DuAZ5)

55 You're very, very, wrong here.

Not in the least ... but, continue.

Most of the modern social platforms have entire teams of people deliberately structuring every last detail of their platform to alter users' behavior in ways that benefit the platform to the detrement of the user and public stated social purpose of the platform.

So what? Every single product ever produced has done the same, or tried.

And I have big problems with this "public[ly] stated social purpose" thing. It's a friggin business. Companies are always making ridiculous claims about the efficacy and utility and worth of their products. Big deal.

We're talking really cynical, evil shit that would get your psych license yanked if you pulled it in a squishy social sciences stufy.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 03, 2018 06:49 PM (eAshZ)


Puh-leeease.

They aren't that powerful or smart. People just like babbling to whoever will listen to them. I'm no different.

You give these companies, and psychologists, waaaay too much credit. These social media sites, right now, just benefit from the lack of internet sophistication of the population, which will change eventually.

Twitter is no master psych-ops site. It's a crappy little babbling fest that allowed people to post on the internet through their phones, which people loved. People loved it because they love talking, even though Twitter always had one of the worst UIs imaginable. They should have gotten some of their sooper-genius psych operators to fix that up.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 03, 2018 06:58 PM (q45uC)

56 All of social media is harming society.

Posted by: Aunt Jemima at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (oVJmc)

57
47 This came up the other morning on ONT if you can see a Twitter account without having one. I know I look up some and read the content without a account.
Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 06:57 PM (/rm4P)


Yes, you can, as everyone here who sees kbdabear's compliance pics in the ONT can attest.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (XdWyA)

58 Some of you should get out a little

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (/rm4P)

59 But seriously, to ace's point (and to expound on my own) -- social media, the current iteration of cable news media, and specifically twitter are designed to be as concise as possible. It takes incredibly complex issues and boils them down to, well, bumper sticker slogans.

This is not only incredibly unhealthy for any political discourse, but it has to have neurological effects on people. I think there's a real danger that people are getting too comfortable thinking in 140-character "pithy" comebacks instead of thinking through issues.

It doesn't help that our current zeitgeist says youre an evil almost-Hitler if you even question any of the left's orthodoxies.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (GBteo)

60 Well, I've got bluebell's lemon chicken nearly ready to come out of the oven.

Later, dear hordlings.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2018 06:55 PM (ptqGC)

I'm on my way, but I'll probably be late. Just leave the front door open and the liquor cabinet unlocked.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (f3oO4)

61 27 I don't know who Glenn Reynolds is but he must be a good guy 'cause he gave up teh twatter.
Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2018 06:51 PM (x7OgJ)

Instapundit. He started all this blogging stuff.

Posted by: m at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (Kj9vA)

62 I like twitter as an alt news outlet, like for the southern border and what's happening in France with the Jilly Johns.

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (x7OgJ)

63 The good use for Twitter is kdabear ONT Compliance Pics

Posted by: MAGA at December 03, 2018 07:00 PM (/8RAd)

64 Seize Facebook lock, stock, and barrel. Imprison the corporate officers. Turn the thing over to the Winklevoss twins. Do the same to at least one major TV channel, maybe CNN.

Once the left realizes they might lose -everything-, they might wise up.
Posted by: trev006

__________

I know the example is a bit tongue in cheek, but I actually have no issue "violating" free market ethos when Big Business wants to engage in politics.

It's like Big Business though knows Republicans are whores and will walk all over conservatives with no fear.

Imagine if say Google was straight up right-wing and pushed that agenda, how long until the place was taken and/or life was made a living hell with regulators?

Posted by: Blago at December 03, 2018 07:00 PM (UfkIY)

65 If you stop reading Twitter, it will die faster

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 03, 2018 07:01 PM (bQtop)

66 Reynolds is.... okay... but he's no Rothko.

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:01 PM (ffWPP)

67 Twitter is for twits. We would all be better off without twitter. Even Ace.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 03, 2018 07:01 PM (0OmEj)

68 This is a fault of people in general, not just Big Tech. I'm sure in the 1930's you had Nazis and Reds beating each other in running street fights after reading propaganda broadsheets, the difference is that the Western nations had professional and intelligent governments that didn't obviously hate their own people.

That didn't stop Hitler from conquering Europe, nor did it stop the rise of ideology.
Posted by: trev006 at December 03, 2018 06:57 PM (qqEFK)


I don't know that I'm specifically blaming big tech. But I am saying that this is not a positive development in our society.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 07:02 PM (GBteo)

69 58 Some of you should get out a little
Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (/rm4P)

heh

Posted by: m at December 03, 2018 07:02 PM (Kj9vA)

70 I'm sure in the 1930's you had Nazis and Reds beating each other in running street fights after reading propaganda broadsheets,"

Horace Greeley nods...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 03, 2018 07:02 PM (6qErC)

71 Anyone who uses the word "churlish" has my undying loyalty. Thank you, Ace.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at December 03, 2018 07:02 PM (fCE6j)

72 Not that I want to be fair to Goldberg but the "oookay" was more a response to the fact that she was calling him out in his own replies. Pretty sure Goldberg doesn't jump into her replies, he just passive-aggressively subtweets her.

Posted by: bjstuggggggz at December 03, 2018 07:02 PM (o6stY)

73 The ONLY good use...

Posted by: MAGA at December 03, 2018 07:02 PM (/8RAd)

74 Let me fire up this thought leader machine.

Posted by: Rube Goldberg at December 03, 2018 07:02 PM (Tyii7)

75 Thought leader my ass.


That's the real dick move.

Thought leader is something someone else calls you if you are one. If you call yourself a thought leader you aren't.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 03, 2018 07:02 PM (fuK7c)

76 never been on twatter
never will be on twatter.
looks like a colossal waste of time and energy.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 03, 2018 07:03 PM (d7Ww2)

77 Twitter is for twits. We would all be better off without twitter. Even Ace.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable.


Dude!!!

phrasing ...

Posted by: Adriane the The Whole is Crazy But Me & Thee Critic ... at December 03, 2018 07:03 PM (LPnfS)

78 I was thinking back about the first Bush administration and realized that the conservatives back then are waaay better than the ones we have to day.

The sneering, the preening, the whole "I don't have to own up to anything" attitude - it's the opposite of what was going on back then.

Conservatism used to be about TRUTH. The Truth was on their side - "the facts of life are conservative," as Thatcher said.

Now look at them. They spread lies for NPR - the thing that they want abolished! - and then shrug when called on it.

Ace, do us all a favor and just ignore these punks. Even insulting traffic strokes their ego. Spend a week without a single twitter reference.

You'll be happier.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at December 03, 2018 07:03 PM (cfSRQ)

79 >>Thought leader is something someone else calls you if you are one. If you call yourself a thought leader you aren't.


Big Titted Barista > Thought Leader

Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2018 07:03 PM (opyfN)

80 It takes incredibly complex issues and boils them down to, well, bumper sticker slogans.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (GBteo)


That's a complaint that probably goes back to the Roman Republic. I'm sure there were more than a few Greeks who said the same even earlier. Of course, they were "goat-ass sticker slogans", back then.

Heck, go back another 1000 years and the 10 commandments might qualify as an example.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 03, 2018 07:03 PM (q45uC)

81 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 03, 2018 06:58 PM (q45uC)

I disagree for one big reason.

There is a large part of the Human Populace, who will follow the herd. They will speak about what is popular, and NOT speak about things which are not.

There is a silent majority out there, and Twitter is part of the mechanism now being used to decide what is popular, and OK to speak about, and what is not.

And they are doing it by promoting some messages, while not showing others. By giving some a megaphone, and by not allowing others to speak.

same with Facebook. Same with search engines.

Go do a Bing search on Global Warming, the first few PAGES will all be sites that say it exists. This does have an impact on the public... because most people are sheep.

Posted by: Don Q at December 03, 2018 07:04 PM (NgKpN)

82 I read @MisterAntiBully who, coincidentally, happens to be a good friend of Mr. Metokur. That's about it for my Twatter usage.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 03, 2018 07:04 PM (DTX3h)

83 The problem is most national media is from similar economic/social backgrounds, and attended a small subset of universities. That was not the case before the 1950s when most national media came from a more diverse background educationally, economically and socially.

Of course there are more women and ethnic/racial groups, but that is a superficial diversity. They are much less diverse once you get past the cleavage and skin color.

Posted by: William Eaton at December 03, 2018 07:04 PM (MuTTO)

84 'm sure in the 1930's you had Nazis and Reds beating each other in running street fights after reading propaganda broadsheets,"

um, hum ...

Nazi, Reds, Mod, Rockers ... dogs and cats living together ...

Posted by: Adriane the The Whole is Crazy But Me & Thee Critic ... at December 03, 2018 07:05 PM (LPnfS)

85 If Jonah Goildberg is a "thought leader", his only follower is Max Boot.

Posted by: OCBill at December 03, 2018 07:05 PM (df+Zi)

86 Go do a Bing search on Global Warming, the first few PAGES will all be sites that say it exists. This does have an impact on the public... because most people are sheep. "

Walter Crankwright has news of Vietnam for you...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 03, 2018 07:06 PM (6qErC)

87 King Tut is a butt!

Posted by: Vote Thoth! at December 03, 2018 07:06 PM (NLLmE)

88
Twitter is going to end up with two users, each calling for the other one to be banned.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 03, 2018 07:06 PM (e7O7B)

89 Big Titted Barista > Thought Leader
Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2018 07:03 PM (opyfN)

it is known.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 07:06 PM (GBteo)

90 65
If you stop reading Twitter, it will die faster

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 03, 2018 07:01 PM (bQtop)
---
Yes.

I know Ace rarely reads the comments, but I implore him (or any COBs who read this) - ignore Twitter.

Just ignore it. Deny its inmates the dopamine rush of a negative comments, because even hate can be a source of energy and pride.

Let them howl to an empty room. Imagine the day when Max Boot, Jonah Goldberg and company do a vicious tweet and no one comments.

These people are beyond convincing and revel in the hate people send at them, so deny them this. An insult is actually a compliment, because what they really want is attention.

So don't give them any.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at December 03, 2018 07:07 PM (cfSRQ)

91 know the example is a bit tongue in cheek, but I actually have no issue "violating" free market ethos when Big Business wants to engage in politics.

It's like Big Business though knows Republicans are whores and will walk all over conservatives with no fear.

Imagine if say Google was straight up right-wing and pushed that agenda, how long until the place was taken and/or life was made a living hell with regulators?
Posted by: Blago at December 03, 2018 07:00 PM (UfkIY)

Yup, any US company who violates the Bill of Rights, should not be able to run a business in America.

Posted by: Don Q at December 03, 2018 07:07 PM (NgKpN)

92 "65 If you stop reading Twitter, it will die faster

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 03, 2018 07:01 PM (bQtop) "


^^^This ! ^^^
That's the one thing I can do, and I do it - well, except for Schlichter once in a while.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2018 07:07 PM (KVMek)

93 Big Titted Barista > Thought Leader


And that is why comity and reasoned discourse is better than the twat machine.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 03, 2018 07:07 PM (fuK7c)

94 Thought leader..."

How much should one lead a thought before pulling the trigger?
Does it depend on the type of thought?
The type of shot?
Questions....

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 03, 2018 07:07 PM (6qErC)

95 red thought leader, red thought leader. This is Capitan Cristal Cuck, tighten up your formation I say again, tighten up your formation....

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:07 PM (nAeGR)

96 88 Yeah but the Leftist overlords of Twitter have the upper hand.

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (/rm4P)

97 "without endorsement"

That is some implausible deniability right there. Tweeting anything out is tacit endorsement (unless, of course, you preface it with something along the lines of "Get a load of this horseshit")

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (+F0Wk)

98 That's a complaint that probably goes back to the Roman Republic. I'm sure there were more than a few Greeks who said the same even earlier. Of course, they were "goat-ass sticker slogans", back then.

Heck, go back another 1000 years and the 10 commandments might qualify as an example.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 03, 2018 07:03 PM (q45uC)

Well, look at it this way -- in the 1800's, in order to "know the news," you have to read multi-hundred word articles.

In 2018, you read a 140-character tweet with a link to a click bait headline.

Do you not think there's any difference between those to (granted, slightly exaggerated) methods of "knowing" the news and being "informed?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (GBteo)

99 Baby, I'm about to go all Super Nova up here in my trousers!

Cheese and crackers?

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (Z9C5C)

100 Big Titted Barista > Thought Leader

Correction.

Big Titted Bartender > Barista > Thought Leader

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (nAeGR)

101 Is it Dopamine? I thought it was endorphins.

Posted by: Vote Thoth! at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (NLLmE)

102 Thought leader sounds a lot cultish to me.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (ZoDuK)

103 If Jonah Goldberg is your thought leader, well then, your thought pool is about as shallow as a puddle to start with.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (ffYR/)

104 The Head Twit, Jack Dorsey, just pisses me off even when I see him on the net....

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:09 PM (ffWPP)

105 Its not so much Twitter as how people use Twitter, which might be inevitable. People have been deluded into thinking what people say on Twitter... matters. Instead of being like the bathroom wall or a public bulletin board.

Once people figure out that twitter outrage storms are meaningless and small numbers of highly driven lunatics and bots, and that "social media trends" are utter trash, then it can become what it always should have been: just a way to reach out to people

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2018 07:09 PM (39g3+)

106 You're a "thought leader" when we say you are a thought leader. And no one has called Goldberg a thought leader except himself.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 03, 2018 07:09 PM (jUVms)

107 I'm not exercised by the nature of Twitter. I'm TOd by the users who claim some kind of status (and by the techno-fascism of Silly Valley, which is a much bigger problem)

NeverTurnipers are stuck trying to justify their rage against Trump. So naturally they jump on every single fucking thing the MSM screeches.

It's just so toddler-like. "TEACHER, TRUMP SAID DOODY!!!"

DC and US politics warps people. It's doubly-sad and annoying that our current crop of Betters are the same crew that sit on their thumbs while ignoring the insane growth of the Monster State, secretly encouraging more, and then pretend to be the stalwart, OG, Reaganite, Burkean, firebrands standing across the railroad of history mewling, "sthop guyth~!"

then they lose their shit when conservative voters demand that the course be corrected.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 03, 2018 07:09 PM (7TCRf)

108 If Jonah Goildberg is a "thought leader", his only follower is Max Boot.
Posted by: OCBill at December 03, 2018 07:05 PM (df+Zi)


Isn't that the National Review Shahada?

Posted by: hogmartin at December 03, 2018 07:09 PM (t+qrx)

109 Just ignore it. Deny its inmates the dopamine rush of a negative comments"

This. Any reply is looked at as "a good thing" as the point of the exercise is to sell advertising. The more people watch, the more they can charge for access to you...

and people can't figure out what the product of social media is.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 03, 2018 07:10 PM (6qErC)

110 Jonah only leads thoughts to Dunkin Donuts.

Posted by: Aunt Jemima at December 03, 2018 07:10 PM (oVJmc)

111 Baby, I'm about to go all Super Nova up here in my trousers!

Cheese and crackers?
Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM

How about we just do an Irish handshake. It's where we shake hands and when I stare into your soul and realize you're a douchenozzle I punch you right in the mouth. Chardonnay?

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:10 PM (nAeGR)

112
Most of my twitter reading (I no longer have an account there) comes via links from here and, since most often I am on my iPhone while here, something or another prevents me from reading tweets ("rate limited", whatever that means). I shrug and move on without any sense of loss.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 03, 2018 07:10 PM (XdWyA)

113 http://www.thediplomad.com
Bush 41
Always a good short read

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 07:10 PM (/rm4P)

114 because most people are lazy sheep.
Posted by: Don Q at December 03, 2018 07:04 PM (NgKpN)

Research be hard, yo!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 07:10 PM (f3oO4)

115 59
But seriously, to ace's point (and to expound on my own) -- social
media, the current iteration of cable news media, and specifically
twitter are designed to be as concise as possible. It takes incredibly
complex issues and boils them down to, well, bumper sticker slogans.



Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (GBteo)

---
Yes, and remember when conservatives preferred long-form discussions where they offered exhaustive data to back up their arguments?

But now it's all about scoring the "sick burn."

BTW, Goldberg tweets what he's paid to tweet. Trying to shame or reason with him is pointless unless you've got your checkbook out.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at December 03, 2018 07:11 PM (cfSRQ)

116 42 That a supposed Conservative would deem himself a 'thought leader' is very scary.

Thought Leader... sounds very communist to me.
Posted by: Don Q at December 03, 2018 06:55 PM (NgKpN)


Actually, it's bizspeak. And yes, corporations are pretty red these days (at least their PR departments are).

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 03, 2018 07:11 PM (kaRc1)

117 "65 If you stop reading Twitter, it will die faster

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
-----

The same is true for the goolag, and FB. And while I use neither, nor Twitter, the swinish multitude doesn't perceive the danger, and in fact would be puzzled if you suggested that they are drivers of the decay of society.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 03, 2018 07:11 PM (gdP3k)

118 Calling yourself Thought leader is only just a tad bit eerie.

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2018 07:11 PM (NLLmE)

119
J. Twatberg, preeminent thought leader in auto-sodomy via plumbers snake...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 03, 2018 07:11 PM (UFLLM)

120 If PDTS didn't tweet, what would be an effective MSM workaround?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 03, 2018 07:11 PM (PA/U2)

121 " our lazy "Information Elites""

So true, ace.


Reminds me of the junior engineer in Chicago, who was supposed to check in the tunnel on Friday evening by Kinzie St. - but he couldn't find a parking space, so he went home.
Monday morning, the Great Chicago Flood.

Also like our elites; fired, but sued and got his job back.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 03, 2018 07:12 PM (KVMek)

122 Twitter is awesome because the President (or any other elected official) can speak to us without having to deal with the media gatekeepers.

Posted by: artemis at December 03, 2018 07:12 PM (AwPyG)

123 120 If PDTS didn't tweet, what would be an effective MSM workaround?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 03, 2018 07:11 PM (PA/U2)

POTUS has a blog on the WH webpage I think. ::shrug::

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 07:12 PM (GBteo)

124 People have been deluded into thinking what people say on Twitter... matters. Instead of being like the bathroom wall or a public bulletin board. "

Indeed. We've long known that Uncle Bob and Aunt Peg were nuttier than a squirrel convention.
With myfacetwat, we all now know.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 03, 2018 07:12 PM (6qErC)

125 Do you not think there's any difference between those to (granted, slightly exaggerated) methods of "knowing" the news and being "informed?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (GBteo)


Nothing that poses any grave danger to society. No.

It's more about the content than how long the article/quip is. In fact, one is given much more ammunition and leeway to deceive with long articles, it can easily be argued.

The fact is that every single thing can be used for good or evil, productivity or destruction. It is not the thing, itself, that is good or bad.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 03, 2018 07:12 PM (q45uC)

126 Baby its cold outside is a date rape song

(Yes)

(No)

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 03, 2018 07:12 PM (bQtop)

127 Here's the thing.

I hate being wrong. Hate hate hate hate hate it.

I hate when I link to something that turns out not to be true.

I hate when I get caught up in not checking because I want to believe.

As a result of that, I at least try to be sure to read the freaking story before retweeting it and when I end up repeating something that's not true, I try to point it out.

Because I hate being wrong.

I do not comprehend these people whose livelihood should be dependent on their credibility sneering at the notion of being held accountable for gleefully passing along false info.

Then again, I am aware that my scat does not smell like roses so there's that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 03, 2018 07:13 PM (GbPPJ)

128 Thought leader sounds a lot cultish to me.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2018 07:08 PM (ZoDuK)

Can I have another glass of KoolAid?

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 07:13 PM (f3oO4)

129 Nazi, Reds, Mod, Rockers ... dogs and cats living together ...
Posted by: Adriane the The Whole is Crazy But Me & Thee Critic ... at December 03, 2018 07:05 PM (LPnfS)



It would be something if political discourse came down to "Quadrophenia" style riots at university towns.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 03, 2018 07:13 PM (ujg0T)

130 With mutes and unfollows about the only stuff that shows up in my twitter feed now are cute animal videos, automobile related news and personal observations from people I know.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 03, 2018 07:13 PM (Sk/5h)

131 I'll take What is a website for 2,000. Alex.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2018 07:14 PM (ZoDuK)

132 I am an official twitter hater but it is in my nature to be Contrarian.

So as avvocato del diavolo:

Trump uses Twitter to bypass the mainstream media and get his message directly to the people. This makes Twitter a good thing.

Discuss.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 03, 2018 07:14 PM (fuK7c)

133 If it wasn't for twitter, we wouldn't be able to read Ocasio-Cortez' mind thoughts.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2018 07:14 PM (/tuJf)

134 Baby, I'm about to go all Super Nova up here in my trousers!

Now, there's a thought leader.

Posted by: Rube Goldberg at December 03, 2018 07:14 PM (Tyii7)

135 I am rero.... I text, use email.....

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (ffWPP)

136 And no one has called Goldberg a thought leader except himself.

The guy Jonah responded to says Jonah used to be a "thought-leader" (which is such a utterly cringetastic description I can't believe I typed it, even in quotes emphasizing its lameness).

Posted by: just for the record at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (APISg)

137 I shall never recover my thought leader status.

-- Jonah Goldberg


'Recover'? You're the one awarding it to yourself.

Posted by: t-bird at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (CE5C/)

138 Baby its cold outside is a date rape song

(No)

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 03, 2018 07:12 PM


It's a song that came out toward the end of the second world war. Long before Bill Cosby dropped his first roofie in a Pudding Cup.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (e7O7B)

139 Twitter does not matter in the long run. Eventually it will die. It would be better if it were sooner.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (0OmEj)

140
Thought Leader... sounds very communist to me.
Posted by: Don Q


It's even funnier in German.

Denkenfuhrer

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (7TCRf)

141 If PDTS didn't tweet, what would be an effective MSM workaround?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 03, 2018 07:11 PM (PA/U2)


Assuming you meant PDJT, he uses twitter effectively by just throwing what he wants out there and not giving a flying fuck how the numbnuts respond.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (y7DUB)

142 Eff Jonah. Ashamed I subscribed to NR for over 30 years.

Posted by: rammajamma at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (xceTB)

143 I posted my last comment on Twitter Dec 1

https://twitter.com/motionview/status/
1068601847965872128

and will be deleting this week. My only reluctance is nostalgia; I started that account during the TEA Party development period, our last, best chance to save this country, and now it is too late.

Posted by: motionview at December 03, 2018 07:16 PM (pYQR/)

144 Hrothgar, AoS is the rebel of the social media world.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2018 07:16 PM (ZoDuK)

145 138 Baby its cold outside is a date rape song

(No)

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 03, 2018 07:12 PM

It's a song that came out toward the end of the second world war. Long before Bill Cosby dropped his first roofie in a Pudding Cup.
Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (e7O7B)

Besides, she leaves at the end... or... does she...

Posted by: Don Q at December 03, 2018 07:16 PM (NgKpN)

146 Meme at FB:

"With the rise of self-driving vehicles, there will eventually be a country song about your truck leaving you too."

Yup. Suggested title:
"I Miss My Mack"

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 03, 2018 07:16 PM (miE9U)

147 Wow, could Jonah be any more sneering in his fake apology? What a shallow cad. Too bad there isn't an editor, or publisher etc to suspend him w/o pay for a couple weeks to ponder why it really is wrong to repeat a fake story when you are supposed to be a reporter and folks think that means you do a basic fact check before releasing your story.

Posted by: paleRider at December 03, 2018 07:16 PM (eASYU)

148 So.... Is " Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow"... an okay song... not rapey??

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:16 PM (ffWPP)

149
I unfriended myself and I got a 'you divided by zero' error message and the feed started streaming vid from what was either a Tau Ceti restroom, or cafeteria...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 03, 2018 07:17 PM (UFLLM)

150 Yes, I am guilty of "mind boggling spin" for tweeting, without
endorsement, and entirely plausible news story that turned out to be
wrong. A truly devastating rejoinder to a tweeted link. I am undone in
every regard. I shall never recover my thought leader status.
***

So once upon a time journalists claimed getting it right was more important then getting it first.

Here we see Goldberg blasting out a story without checking on it. At least NPR has a sort of excuse in wanting to be first. What's Goldberg's defense?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2018 07:17 PM (cRkMZ)

151 The Head Twit, Jack Dorsey, just pisses me off even when I see him on the net

I think the problem is that, especially for guys like him (geek who does good young) they start believing the lies they're told and start buying into their own hype. They're surrounded by wormtongues and buy it all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2018 07:17 PM (39g3+)

152 Is Jonah Goldberg even a Thing??

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (ffWPP)

153 148 So.... Is " Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow"... an okay song... not rapey??
Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:16 PM (ffWPP)

Snow is White, so RAAAAACEST...

Posted by: Don Q at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (NgKpN)

154 If you think Twitter and Facebook are bad, you ought to look into the 13 year, eight hour a day, 150 day a year, agenda-driven, mandatory attendance under threat of child interment, social engineering platform called the education system.

Glenn Reynolds is part of it. And he teaches the next generation of lawyerly scum to create more layers of insulation for government dictates.

But he makes a good living at it and blogs some thought-words on the side, so it's easy for him to sleep at night.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (9fX+O)

155 Imagine if say Google was straight up right-wing and pushed that agenda, how long until the place was taken and/or life was made a living hell with regulators?

Posted by: Blago at December 03, 2018 07:00 PM (UfkIY)

Microsoft got its ribs kicked in for much less. I sometimes wonder if that was the point.

Nonetheless, increasing suppression of conservative thought would have worked in 2016, if it could work at all. Under a successful President and an increasingly lawless judiciary, suppression will only inflame the people.

Posted by: trev006 at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (qqEFK)

156 Posted by: K.N. McBride at December 03, 2018 07:11 PM (cfSRQ)

Combine a truncated character limited format, and debase the meaning of terms so their perceived meaning is, shall we say, quite flexible, and you have a grand method for dumbing down a significant portion of the populace, all of whom seem to have the scratch to own high end phones!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (f3oO4)

157 I do not comprehend these people whose livelihood
should be dependent on their credibility sneering at the notion of being
held accountable for gleefully passing along false info.



Then again, I am aware that my scat does not smell like roses so there's that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 03, 2018 07:13 PM (GbPPJ)

---
The thing is, their livelihood *isn't* dependent on their credibility, and they know it.

Their livelihood is dependent on doing what they are told, which is spreading anti-Trump propaganda.

These people are word-whores. They have no shame.

Stop arguing with them because it won't do any good. If you want to hurt them, ignore them so that their backers decide they aren't worth their retainer.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (cfSRQ)

158 NO, 'Baby It's Cold Outside' is NOT a date rape song.
BUT... it is a bit outdated.

Sort of like Sinatra singing in one of his Christmas songs, "Oh by gosh by golly." Just too incongruous for me, given what a legendary filthy-mouthed smartass Frank was. (Same with 'Love & Marriage;' it only works in a highly ironic context, such as, the theme of Married With Children.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (miE9U)

159 We can all recognize Jonah Goldberg for what he is. A political salesman for the Never-Trump cuck-right. And once that mask is off, its impossible not to notice Goldbergs cuck-hucking.

He doesn't tweet, he runs political advertisements for cucking on Twitter, NRO, and Fox, disgusted as cuck-commentary.

Shapiro, Kristol, Wilson, Hayes, ect. they're all politial advertisers trying to sell potential right wing voters some of their losing and cuckery instead of winning.

Fvck em.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (aqpW6)

160 Twitter is a shithole country.

Posted by: Mark1971 at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (xPl2J)

161 Baby its cold outside is a date rape song

(Yes)

(No)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby


It's just a shitty song in general. Not as bad as Santa Baby, All I Want For Christmas, Grandma Was Run Over A Reindeer, and Little Drummer Boy, but right the fuck up there.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 03, 2018 07:19 PM (7TCRf)

162 So.... Is " Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow"... an okay song... not rapey??


It's at least totally pre-marital sex. We're going to build a snowman and pretend he's Parson Brown, so our marriage is totes legit and we can go home and do the banging.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 03, 2018 07:19 PM (fuK7c)

163 Trump uses Twitter to bypass the mainstream media and get his message directly to the people. This makes Twitter a good thing.

Discuss.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 03, 2018 07:14 PM (fuK7c)


Twitter gives me corgis and Florida Man fails. Twitter is awesome.

Sekrit to Bander: Tumblr is getting rid of all the good stuff by the middle of the month.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 03, 2018 07:19 PM (GbPPJ)

164 n.b. "thought leader" is an anagram for "the Doghat lure".

Posted by: hogmartin at December 03, 2018 07:19 PM (t+qrx)

165 152 Is Jonah Goldberg even a Thing??
Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (ffWPP)



Not in my real world. But in my AoSHQ life he certainly is.

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2018 07:19 PM (NLLmE)

166 Baby its cold outside is a date rape song



(Yes)



(No)
___

Wait is that a bad thing now?

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at December 03, 2018 07:19 PM (cRkMZ)

167 Any person who calls themselves a "thought leader" unironically...

Posted by: josephistan at December 03, 2018 07:19 PM (Izzlo)

168 154 If you think Twitter and Facebook are bad, you ought to look into the 13 year, eight hour a day, 150 day a year, agenda-driven, mandatory attendance under threat of child interment, social engineering platform called the education system. 

Glenn Reynolds is part of it. And he teaches the next generation of lawyerly scum to create more layers of insulation for government dictates. 

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (9fX+O)

You don't have to send your kids to shitty public schools, and you don't have to read NeverTrumpers just because the Dope State insists that is the only acceptable conservatism.

Posted by: trev006 at December 03, 2018 07:20 PM (qqEFK)

169 160 Twitter is a shithole country.
Posted by: Mark1971 at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (xPl2J)



This guy.

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2018 07:20 PM (NLLmE)

170 josephistan, yup.

Though, I've known some women who were "impure thought leaders." ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 03, 2018 07:20 PM (miE9U)

171 This is why I hang out here. Nary a liar here.

Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2018 07:20 PM (zLDYs)

172 The only one I am glad that Tweets is President Trump, he will not be banned or denied service and he is using the Leftist tool to beat the media.
Its a sweet and beautiful thing.

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2018 07:20 PM (/rm4P)

173 Eff Jonah. Ashamed I subscribed to NR for over 30 years.
Posted by: rammajamma at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (xceTB)


Eh, I used to think Rear Admiral Billyboy was a standup conservative who wasn't afraid to go on the Morning Homewreckers and ridicule F Chuck. Lots of masks have come off thanks to DJT and we're better off for it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 03, 2018 07:20 PM (y7DUB)

174 He doesn't tweet, he runs political advertisements for cucking on Twitter, NRO, and Fox, disgusted as cuck-commentary.



Shapiro, Kristol, Wilson, Hayes, ect. they're all politial
advertisers trying to sell potential right wing voters some of their
losing and cuckery instead of winning.



Fvck em.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (aqpW6)

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Yes, and if you truly want to hurt them IGNORE THEM COMPLETELY.

Every time they get hate mail, that's proof of their "reach." Every sidebar insult adds to their search results.

Seriously, Ace is making Goldberg wealthier by ripping on him all the time. He doesn't give a sh!t what Ace says, but he will cash the check.

IGNORE HIM.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at December 03, 2018 07:21 PM (cfSRQ)

175 >>>54 Send a man a tweet and he stop fishing a moment to read it.

Teach a man to tweet and he will give up his hobby of fishing.
Posted by: Ben Shapiro at December 03, 2018 06:58 PM (DuAZ5)
__________
The neighbor offered to feed my his fresh fish sauce in the back alley, but I had to close my eyes and suck it right out the fish.

It was salty. Yum!

Posted by: Abigail Shapiro's FANTASTIC bewbz and lack of a gag reflex at December 03, 2018 07:21 PM (aqpW6)

176 If you don't use twitter how are you going to learn how to hate Orange Man?

Posted by: Some NPC at December 03, 2018 07:21 PM (cRkMZ)

177 Here's one of my Twitter experiences:

Guy I used to follow who's a WaPo columnist: So- and-So didn't have anything to say about such-and such.

Me (reply): You're a member of the press. Did you call So-and-So to ask him for a comment?

WaPo guy just blocked me.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 03, 2018 07:21 PM (T9f3V)

178 At least NPR has a sort of excuse in wanting to be first. What's Goldberg's defense?

Orange Man Bad. He couldn't resist mocking Mollie Hemingway for being someone who consistently reports good stuff on Trump and bad stuff about his foes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 03, 2018 07:21 PM (39g3+)

179 I'm into the hard sciences, baby, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Neil deGrabass at December 03, 2018 07:21 PM (Evws/)

180 Skip, one of the things that keeps me warm at night is thinking about how bad Jack and the Stalinist Twitter team would LOOOVVE to ban the President from Twitter.

But they can't, because if they did their whole world would implode.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 03, 2018 07:22 PM (miE9U)

181 Men should never get on social media. Just stop. Go fuck your wife or girlfriend before after going to the gym and eating well. I swear to Palp, this faggitry has to end.

Posted by: Palp Pilled at December 03, 2018 07:22 PM (rwVFm)

182 I'd really like to see a concerted effort to purge the term " elites" from the discourse. There is absolutely nothing "elite" about most people in journalism or politics. They're certainly not capable of original thought and really only serve to parrot a narrative given to them by their handlers. Obviously, there are exceptions like Ace and Instapundit.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 03, 2018 07:22 PM (PA/U2)

183 I was wrong. I'm sorry. Here's the correct information:

Posted by: Farmer Bob- internet comedy coach at December 03, 2018 07:22 PM (87EdW)

184 Hrothgar, AoS is the rebel of the social media world.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2018 07:16 PM (ZoDuK)


Every morning when I find JJS is still allowed to post gives me hope!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 07:22 PM (f3oO4)

185
Seriously, Ace is making Goldberg wealthier by ripping on him all
the time. He doesn't give a sh!t what Ace says, but he will cash the
check.
***


The problem here is that unlike most of the NT crew Goldberg used to be interesting.

I'd love to know the carrots and sticks that led him to selling out his principles.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2018 07:22 PM (cRkMZ)

186 by, the Jonah Goldberg rejoinder is amusing.

He is making the argument that his tweets don't matter much, and getting one wrong is like, no biggie, and won't effect his status as important thought leader person.

Only...getting it right is a reason you are such a person, and getting it wrong affects that status. hell, tweeting your thoughts makes you look less thoughtful and trivial, re-tweeting makes you look even less thoughtful and important, and retweeting wrong shit makes you look like a pompous asshole and fool.

So which is it champ? If being wrong doesn't matter, then by extension, your opinion doesn't matter. Ergo, you have no standing to recover.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at December 03, 2018 07:22 PM (AJj50)

187 I always kind of laugh at Jewish artists putting out a Christmas album. Seems rather odd.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:23 PM (nAeGR)

188 ace> Twitter is like a game of Information Dominoes, where the dominoes have already been laid out for you on the gym floor, and all you have to do is tap one on the top to send dozens of lines of dominoes tipping over.

Trouble is, the twitter peeps have decided what dominoes to lay out. And for whom.

Posted by: golfman at December 03, 2018 07:23 PM (GL/05)

189 You don't have to send your kids to shitty public schools...

Posted by: trev006 at December 03, 2018 07:20 PM

.....

Well, I don't have to.

But financially, most do. And if they don't, their children will be taken from them and the state will place them there.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 03, 2018 07:23 PM (9fX+O)

190 Is Jonah Goldberg even a Thing??

Is he the one with the sister with the big tits? I have a tendency to get my thought leaders mixed up.

Posted by: tu3031 at December 03, 2018 07:24 PM (sf1AO)

191 Sometimes... in the stillness of the night, I wonder.. is AoS social media??? Is the Horde draining away my vital essences???

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:24 PM (ffWPP)

192 190 No,HE is the one with big tits

Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2018 07:24 PM (BXMxN)

193 the one thing twitter does is expose the elites as the fakes they are. Like watching them pick their noses, the romance is suddenly gone from the relationship, and you realize they are not all that much smarter than us.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at December 03, 2018 07:24 PM (AJj50)

194 The problem here is that unlike most of the NT crew Goldberg used to be interesting.

I'd love to know the carrots and sticks that led him to selling out his principles.


Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2018 07:22 PM (cRkMZ)

---
A six-figure paycheck.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at December 03, 2018 07:24 PM (cfSRQ)

195 "the Doghat lure".
woof! woof! grrrr!

Posted by: zombie cosmo at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (Evws/)

196 This is why I hang out here. Nary a liar here.
Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2018 07:20 PM (zLDYs)


Are you sure you're in the right department?

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (f3oO4)

197 Soon enough, the urge to reject Jonah Goldberg as your Thought Leader will pass.

Then, you'll stand in the wreckage of your own reputation and ask yourself, "Am I right, am I wrong?
My God! What have I done?"

The answer will be as clear then as it should be clear now.

🚢 🚢 🚢

Posted by: David French at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (DuAZ5)

198 Twitter gives you insight into the large number of ppl who still think a Republican bankrolled the dossier. And, they are adamant that is the truth.

Posted by: Ever at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (1Zh0U)

199
WaPo guy just blocked me.
***


I used to think that being a reporter meant going out to meet sources, comparing what they said, and trying to arrive at the truth.

I now know it is calling up your friends at various activists groups and asking them to rework their press releases so you can submit them under your byline.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (cRkMZ)

200 I shall never recover my thought leader status.

Heh.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (yQpMk)

201 >>>190 Is Jonah Goldberg even a Thing??

Is he the one with the sister with the big tits? I have a tendency to get my thought leaders mixed up.

Posted by: tu3031 at December 03, 2018 07:24 PM (sf1AO)
_______

No silly. Thats ME!

Tee-hee-hee

Jonah's are BIG but mine are BIGGER!!!

Posted by: Abigail Shapiro's FANTASTIC bewbz and lack of a gag reflex at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (aqpW6)

202 I always kind of laugh at Jewish artists putting out a Christmas album. Seems rather odd.

Posted by: Minnfidel
________

I had a good laugh once while watching JLTV (the Jewish cable channel). They were singing "Baby It's Cold Outside" but the roles were reversed. By the end of the song, Dinah Shore and some other woman literally had Fred McMurray tied up.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (T9f3V)

203 Yes, he has a sister with dirigible bosoms....

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (ffWPP)

204 I declare myself a thought leader! So it is spoken so it is. Or something.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 03, 2018 07:26 PM (jUVms)

205 Well Happy Hanukka, y'all. Been up too long and out of energy.

Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2018 07:26 PM (zLDYs)

206 'its cold outside'

It's even colder inside baby. Come on down.

Posted by: A black hole at December 03, 2018 07:26 PM (UdKB7)

207 and you realize they are not all that much smarter than us.


You are notably humble, Herr Inspector.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2018 07:26 PM (yQpMk)

208 only goldberg i ever heard of was a wrestler. never heard of the other turd polisher.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 03, 2018 07:26 PM (KP5rU)

209 My God! What have I done?"


I ask myself that already. Every day.

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2018 07:27 PM (NLLmE)

210 It's Ben Shapiro's sister who has big chesticles.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 03, 2018 07:27 PM (jUVms)

211 had a good laugh once while watching JLTV (the Jewish cable channel). They were singing "Baby It's Cold Outside" but the roles were reversed. By the end of the song, Dinah Shore and some other woman literally had Fred McMurray tied up.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM


Wait, there's Jooo TV? What's the weather reports like?

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:27 PM (nAeGR)

212 By the end of the song, Dinah Shore and some other woman literally had Fred McMurray tied up.

___

Yeah its fun and games when it is Dinah Shore...but I'd like to see you trying to remember the safe word after Moochelle hog ties you better she gets even more adventurous.


Posted by: Barack Obama at December 03, 2018 07:27 PM (cRkMZ)

213 NO, 'Baby It's Cold Outside' is NOT a date rape song.
BUT... it is a bit outdated.

Sort of like Sinatra singing in one of his Christmas songs, "Oh by gosh by golly." Just too incongruous for me, given what a legendary filthy-mouthed smartass Frank was. (Same with 'Love & Marriage;' it only works in a highly ironic context, such as, the theme of Married With Children.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 03, 2018 07:18 PM (miE9U)

-------------------------

There's a version of Baby, It's Cold Outside by a duo called She Him (She being Zooey Deschanel, and Him ... I don't know, some guy). They flipped it around, so she's singing the traditional male part. Probably my favorite version (probably because it's Zooey Deschanel with mischief on the mind...)

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 03, 2018 07:27 PM (+F0Wk)

214 Wait, there's Jooo TV? What's the weather reports like?


Whatever They want it to be.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2018 07:27 PM (yQpMk)

215 I now know it is calling up your friends at various activists groups and asking them to rework their press releases so you can submit them under your byline.

Posted by: 18-1
________

Sadly, you describe the journalists that actually do some work. Between 1/3 and 1/2 of news stories are press releases, reprinted verbatim.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM (T9f3V)

216 Wait, there's Jooo TV? What's the weather reports like?

___

We have people call in and ask us what to set the weather machine to.


Posted by: Jooo TV at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM (cRkMZ)

217 Ben Shapiro, Jonah Goldberg, what's the difference???..... Well, besides a sister....

Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM (ffWPP)

218 There are more though creators on this site than the whole of DC.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM (ZoDuK)

219 Wait, there's Jooo TV? What's the weather reports like?
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:27 PM (nAeGR)

------------

Factual, since they create it and all.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM (ffYR/)

220 Wait, there's Jooo TV? What's the weather reports like?

.....

Saw a nice Babylon Bee article today.

Something along the lines of "Growing Anti-Semitism Movement Linked To Secret Jewish Conspiracy".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM (9fX+O)

221 My God! What have I done?"


This is not my beautiful house, and you may ask yourself...this is not my beautiful wife....

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM (nAeGR)

222 The day Goldberg can craft a headline like Ace, then I'll call him a thought leader.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 03, 2018 07:29 PM (jUVms)

223 We won't truly be free until ettes oogle rons, reciprocal drooling is the way

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 03, 2018 07:29 PM (bQtop)

224 snicker
AtC said scat

Posted by: Jonah's ottoman at December 03, 2018 07:30 PM (yScAF)

225 Thought Leader?

Well, I do have a diploma as a Doctor of Thinkology!

Posted by: The Scarecrow at December 03, 2018 07:30 PM (NgKpN)

226 59- The pithy comment, the fast edit, etc is all built for the video game/ADHD generation. I noticed this years ago from, of all things, Playboy videos. Suddenly they were all quick cuts and flashing lights, like manic music videos. What did I just see? Prefer the lingering slow scrolling shots of the 80s/early 90s.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- internet comedy coach at December 03, 2018 07:30 PM (87EdW)

227 We have people call in and ask us what to set the weather machine to.

Posted by: Jooo TV at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM

Well if you ask me you set the Joo-Ometer to shitty cold a little too soon.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:30 PM (nAeGR)

228 I remember when Jonah would write about his dog. Now, his dog tweets about him.

Posted by: Roy at December 03, 2018 07:30 PM (ABjxW)

229 Posted by: Captain Hate at December 03, 2018 07:15 PM (y7DUB)

PDTS = Preznit Donny Two Scoops

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 03, 2018 07:30 PM (PA/U2)

230 Ben Shapiro, Jonah Goldberg, what's the difference???..... Well, besides a sister....
Posted by: kraken at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM (ffWPP)

---------------------

Iceberg, Goldberg, it's all the same to me.

-----Just the punchline

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 03, 2018 07:31 PM (+F0Wk)

231 The problem here is that unlike most of the NT crew Goldberg used to be interesting.


At best he was a little funny in a mostly snarky grad student way. It hasn't aged well.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2018 07:31 PM (yQpMk)

232 >>>The problem here is that unlike most of the NT crew Goldberg used to be interesting.

I'd love to know the carrots and sticks that led him to selling out his principles.


Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2018 07:22 PM (cRkMZ)
_______
I never liked you filthy inbred hicks.

I've always been
open borders to replace you with dumber easier to control third worlders,
Pro-free trade till it guts your disgusting white bread communities of jobs and opportunities to make families
And anti-trade war pro-chinese fentanyl to kill off those of still left alive.

Kevin Williamson is just more open about it.

Posted by: Jonah Soypilled Goldberg at December 03, 2018 07:31 PM (aqpW6)

233 Set weather machine to Oy Vey, it's cold out here!

Posted by: Joo Weather Machine at December 03, 2018 07:31 PM (nAeGR)

234 Wait, there's Jooo TV? What's the weather reports like?

They're very accurate.

Posted by: tu3031 at December 03, 2018 07:31 PM (sf1AO)

235 Well if you ask me you set the Joo-Ometer to shitty cold a little too soon.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:30 PM (nAeGR)



Seriously. Turn those machines back on!!!!

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2018 07:31 PM (NLLmE)

236
At best he was a little funny in a mostly snarky grad student way. It hasn't aged well.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2018 07:31 PM (yQpMk)

So, like Kevin Williamson, only funny.

Posted by: Roy at December 03, 2018 07:32 PM (ABjxW)

237 Prefer the lingering slow scrolling shots of the 80s/early 90s.


And the bush.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2018 07:32 PM (yQpMk)

238 I think Ace fixates on Goldberg because he's a Gen Xer and brought an edgier tone of conservatism, plus Star Wars and Simpsons references.

And that was cool.

But it's now clear that he was either pretending or simply sold out. Either way, the result is the same: Jonah Goldberg doesn't care if you hate him, he just wants your eyeballs for his traffic stats.

This is why Ace also hammers Allahpundit. He's convinced despite all evidence to the contrary that these mercenaries have a sense of shame.

Spoiler alert: They don't. They just work for the check.

Cutting their traffic in half will hurt more than a hundred devastating insults.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at December 03, 2018 07:32 PM (cfSRQ)

239 I so loved the days of Headlines like- Usama bin Laden killed by excessive porn watching and Seals, but mostly Seals.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2018 07:32 PM (ZoDuK)

240 At best he was a little funny in a mostly snarky grad student way. It hasn't aged well.
***


I don't mean the snark - he got that from lefty pundits though he was one of the first on the right to use it.

I mean things like his book Liberal Fascism.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2018 07:32 PM (cRkMZ)

241 Hi Calm Mentor,

I sent you an email today on the SSDI issue. Check your smam folder if it didn't show up in your inbox.

Posted by: Smaug at December 03, 2018 07:32 PM (iF4iV)

242 There are more though creators on this site than the whole of DC.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2018 07:28 PM (ZoDuK)


True dat! Trying to read a truly fine Ace post (like this one) and follow both Ace AND the mix of thoughtful and/or snarky comments is a challenge even for sophisticated erudite thought followers such as myself!

Posted by: Jonah Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 07:32 PM (f3oO4)

243 >>>there'll be people who only read the headline -- the headline Jonah Goldberg retweeted out to his 100,000+ "followers"

How many people actually still pay attention to these assholes? Numbers like this may be misleading. I think the only explanation for the cuck phenomenon is that 1) they get MSM gigs on tv, 2) they get writing gigs, 3) they are funded by lefties.

They might appeal to 0% of conservatives, but they comfort leftist by making them think "even conservatives realize they are evil! If they are honest with themselves" like the earlier post today about Hayes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 03, 2018 07:32 PM (/qEW2)

244 The day Goldberg can craft a headline like Ace, then I'll call him a thought leader.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 03, 2018 07:29 PM

Or a movie review.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 03, 2018 07:33 PM (nAeGR)

245 >>>Deny its inmates the dopamine rush of a negative comments, because even hate can be a source of energy and pride.

Let them howl to an empty room. Imagine the day when Max Boot, Jonah Goldberg and company do a vicious tweet and no one comments.



^^^This.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 03, 2018 07:33 PM (RfzVr)

246
NO, 'Baby It's Cold Outside' is NOT a date rape song.
BUT... it is a bit outdated.


"Outdated" meaning NOT a filthy piece of garbage.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2018 07:33 PM (aKsyK)

247 This is why I hang out here. Nary a liar here.
Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2018 07:20 PM (zLDYs)

Are you sure you're in the right department?
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar


We may fib, tell tall tales, mis-remember & exaggerate, but I doubt too many Hordlings outright lie.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2018 07:33 PM (c3AZU)

248

Iceberg, Goldberg, it's all the same to me.

-----Just the punchline
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 03, 2018 07:31 PM (+F0Wk)

Word!

-- The Titanic

Posted by: Palp Pilled at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (rwVFm)

249

So as avvocato del diavolo:


In Rome do as the Romans do?

What did we say about about using fancy Latin in the 'ments??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (7qAdr)

250 This is why Ace also hammers Allahpundit. He's convinced despite all
evidence to the contrary that these mercenaries have a sense of shame.
***

AP was a worthless asshole for as long as I've known him...and he ruined Hot Gas.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (cRkMZ)

251 I found the 1946? comedy with "Baby its cold outside" and they have both the man telling his date she should stay because its cold and a gal telling guy to stay its cold outside. So flipping the roles is not a new thing. And the original song is just a bit of fun. I think the feminazi neo-puritans hate it because they know they match the "my maiden aunt's mind is just vicious" line. Its a winter, not Christmas, song but if the triggly puff harpies hate it, it makes me like it more.

Posted by: paleRider at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (eASYU)

252 So, like Kevin Williamson, only funny.

Posted by: Roy
________

Kevin Williamson is brilliant!! But don't take my word for it; ask him!

Posted by: FireHorse at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (T9f3V)

253 Hi Calm Mentor,

I sent you an email today on the SSDI issue. Check your smam folder if it didn't show up in your inbox.
Posted by: Smaug at December 03, 2018 07:32 PM (iF4iV)

--------------

Will do Smaug. Thank you very much!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (ffYR/)

254 nood

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (7qAdr)

255 "17 People are talking about this"
...
...pretty much says it all.

Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (ITvKk)

256 NO, 'Baby It's Cold Outside' is NOT a date rape song.
BUT... it is a bit outdated.

"Outdated" meaning NOT a filthy piece of garbage.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr


It's called "mutual seduction". Something the Netflix & Chill crowd wouldn't understand.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (c3AZU)

257 Just for the record, little or no thought goes into most of my blog posting.

Posted by: Weasel at December 03, 2018 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

258 The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.

If this blog imposed a blanket moratorium on mentioning Goldberg or Boot in posts, in six months they'd be looking for work.

Hate traffic is all they have left, but they'll gladly take it.

So deny it to them.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at December 03, 2018 07:35 PM (cfSRQ)

259 We may fib, tell tall tales, mis-remember & exaggerate, but I doubt too many Hordlings outright lie.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2018 07:33 PM (c3AZU)

Yeah know I slept with both Ann Margret and Ivanka

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2018 07:35 PM (bim/x)

260 AirBnB has it all wrong. If I were a travel dependent business I would certainly want to promote destinations that always have nice weather.

Posted by: Jonah's ottoman at December 03, 2018 07:35 PM (yScAF)

261

I said nood.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 03, 2018 07:35 PM (7qAdr)

262 I have invented a soy based condom. Its guaranteed to prevent pregnancy by rendering the user impotent.

I'm not only the inventor, I'm also a client! and wearing one right now!

Posted by: Jonah Soypilled Goldberg at December 03, 2018 07:35 PM (aqpW6)

263 NO, 'Baby It's Cold Outside' is NOT a date rape song.

BUT... it is a bit outdated.

Does Nina Simone do a version of it?

Posted by: Neil Degrasse Tyson at December 03, 2018 07:36 PM (sf1AO)

264 Hint:If you refer to yourself as a "thought leader",you probably aren't

Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2018 07:36 PM (BXMxN)

265 Yes, but if we can't get contemporary thought leaders to codify the relationship between hotdogs and sandwiches just where the fuck will we be when some smartypants begins abusing condiments?

Posted by: Fritz at December 03, 2018 07:36 PM (Z9C5C)

266
Wait, there's Jooo TV?

Spectrum cable here has JLTV which is Jewish Life TV.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2018 07:36 PM (aKsyK)

267 We may fib, tell tall tales, mis-remember & exaggerate, but I doubt too many Hordlings outright lie.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2018 07:33 PM (c3AZU)


Just so you know, I have recently had a tragic canoe accident!

Posted by: Jonah Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 07:36 PM (f3oO4)

268 But financially, most do. And if they don't, their children will be taken from them and the state will place them there.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 03, 2018 07:23 PM (9fX+O)

One doesn't tie to the other. You aren't paying money for a substandard education: you're being issued a substandard education for your kids, then robbed to pay for Maxine Waters' pension.

I understand that what you mean is that most people aee priced out of non-public education, but that's the problem. Government no longer even pretends to look after the posterity of America.

Posted by: trev006 at December 03, 2018 07:36 PM (qqEFK)

269 Twitter is antithetical to credibility. Tweeting makes people look stupid.

I do exempt Trump.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 03, 2018 07:37 PM (nBr1j)

270 "Puh-leeease.



They aren't that powerful or smart. People just like babbling to whoever will listen to them. I'm no different.



You give these companies, and psychologists, waaaay too much credit.
These social media sites, right now, just benefit from the lack of
internet sophistication of the population, which will change eventually.




Twitter is no master psych-ops site. It's a crappy little babbling
fest that allowed people to post on the internet through their phones,
which people loved. People loved it because they love talking, even
though Twitter always had one of the worst UIs imaginable. They should
have gotten some of their sooper-genius psych operators to fix that up.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 03, 2018 06:58 PM (q45uC)"
.
I think you're way out of your lane here. I'm not saying they're some sort of omnipotent manipulators; the comparison to prohibited actions in psych studies was to highlight the severity of their unethical conduct.
This has very little to do with the actual content itself (and it's persuasiveness or lack thereof), and more to do with manipulation of who sees what content/users.

There are also serious problems with privacy controls, with third parties that are allowed unlimited and unsupervised access to user data, and with abuse of app permissions on mobile devices resulting intrusions into non-platform related violations of user privacy.
That last part is particularly important - Obama era .gov agencies used some of that data to target people for harassment.


Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 03, 2018 07:38 PM (eAshZ)

271 What did we say about using fancy Latin in the 'ments??

Posted by: Soothsayer
________

Nescio, ego oblitus.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 03, 2018 07:38 PM (T9f3V)

272 What did we say about about using fancy Latin in the 'ments??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 03, 2018 07:34 PM (7qAdr)


I thought we had rules about math and Latin?

Oh wait, they're not exactly rules, they be more like guidelines!

Posted by: Jonah Hrothgar at December 03, 2018 07:39 PM (f3oO4)

273 Goldberg blocked me years ago. Over nothing.

So probably blocks a lot of people, so he doesnt have to hear what he doesn't want to hear.

Posted by: Tu abuela tambien at December 03, 2018 07:39 PM (efMXe)

274 To be a thought leader, one must first have some thoughts, not just reactions. Also, one must be correct in their assessment of things, and have some sort of original insight or understanding which one can explain cogently.

This idiot? Hardly.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 03, 2018 07:41 PM (NXsWM)

275 I used to think that being a reporter meant going out to meet sources, comparing what they said, and trying to arrive at the truth.

I now know it is calling up your friends at various activists groups and asking them to rework their press releases so you can submit them under your byline.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 03, 2018 07:25 PM (cRkMZ)


When I was working for the third rate electric utility, I happened to meet a reporter at the local fish wrap who skeptically covered it. I was as far from a company shill as you could get, in fact I toyed with a class action suit after I left regarding shenanigans in the employee savings plan that I was positive I'd win before I dropped it thinking they might make the wrong people the fall guys; but I hated the guy at first sight. He was lazy and dumb, and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could kick him. I don't know if he had anyone feeding him info from the inside, but if he did they were low level dipshits who didn't understand a fucking thing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 03, 2018 07:42 PM (y7DUB)

276 My greatest pleasure with twitter is reading my semi-adopted son's profane rants during Buckeye Football and Columbus Blue Jackets games. They are epic.

If not for that, I might just dump the whole thing.



Posted by: April at December 03, 2018 07:43 PM (OX9vb)

277 If you want to hurt them, ignore them so that their backers decide they aren't worth their retainer.

All boycotts assume they're actually measuring and responding to consumer input vs. just broadcasting FUD.

Posted by: DaveA at December 03, 2018 07:44 PM (FhXTo)

278 "Heard from a twenty something that Snapchat is what's happening.... twitter may end up being MySpace....."

Leave it to twenty somethings to be 2 years behind - your tweeny is on HOUSEPARTY right now! Not snapchat.

Posted by: Boswell at December 03, 2018 07:46 PM (OjnQU)

279 56 All of social media is harming society.
Posted by: Aunt Jemima at December 03, 2018 06:59 PM (oVJmc)

Uh, no.

For those of us who just came through a 7.0 with aftershocks, social media has been a godsend for useful info, and also to let everyone know that things are good here, we are alive, etc.

Easiest way to let everybody in the Lower 48 know all was good was through Facebook.

Yeah, it's icky and obnoxious, but it gets the word out without tying up the phone lines.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 03, 2018 07:48 PM (NXsWM)

280 I am rero.... I text, use email.....
Posted by: kraken at D



no. retro is phone calls. you want something done and you want accountability, call them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2018 07:50 PM (MTjB1)

281 "Kevin Williamson is brilliant!! But don't take my word for it; ask him!"

Yeah, like the time he suggested that our US economy should be organized like a Bedouin society - go where the jobs are, you idiots! You know, stupid shit that your dad said, that's Williamson's schtick - yeah, okay in the micro - but not something you want to read as a macro-economic manifesto

Posted by: Boswell at December 03, 2018 07:50 PM (OjnQU)

282 Uh, no.

For those of us who just came through a 7.0 with aftershocks, social media has been a godsend for useful info, and also to let everyone know that things are good here, we are alive, etc.

Easiest way to let everybody in the Lower 48 know all was good was through Facebook.

Yeah, it's icky and obnoxious, but it gets the word out without tying up the phone lines.
Posted by: tcn in AK at D



that is what texting for, and what is recommended in emergencies.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2018 07:51 PM (MTjB1)

283 I will take this moment to say that the worst and most effective thing you can do to them (i.e.; Jonah, et al) is ignore them. That will hit them hardest where it hurts most.

Posted by: steve walsh at December 03, 2018 07:51 PM (vf96M)

284 I was temporarily suspended from Twitter a couple of weeks ago. They kept emailing me to come back and give them some personal info so they could dox me. No gracias. Adios mother fuckers.

Posted by: Regular joe at December 03, 2018 08:02 PM (7PllL)

285 AP was is a worthless asshole for as long as I've known him...and he ruined Hot Gas.

They killed Hot Gas with the FB comments. It was easy to ignore AP and Noah.

Never click on anything linked to that site. dittos with The Blaze

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 03, 2018 08:06 PM (lD3vL)

286 Basically fell off the Jonah Goldberg train when he was such a punk about Derbyshire.

Like a blind pig, he may find another acorn or two in his time, but I can't be bothered to watch for that.

Posted by: Parker at December 03, 2018 08:16 PM (MFwf8)

287 Basically fell off the Jonah Goldberg train when he was such a punk about Derbyshire.

Like a blind pig, he may find another acorn or two in his time, but I can't be bothered to watch for that.

Posted by: Parker at December 03, 2018 08:16 PM (MFwf



This. If he says something novel or interesting, JJ will give me a link.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 03, 2018 08:42 PM (DfbNq)

288 Jonah's Twitter avatar (which he has not changed in years) seems appropriate: a sad-looking dog wearing a stupid party hat.

Posted by: pst314 at December 03, 2018 08:53 PM (iRbDn)

289 I actually paid hard, cold cash for Liberal Fascism when it came out. It was very readable and gave me a bunch of information I was unfamiliar with. (I'm much more into Hitler and Nazism; didn't pay that much attention to fascism.) Goldberg is like Tom Friedman. I used to really enjoy Friedman's stuff, too. But as more and more time passed, I became less and less enchanted with both Friedman and Goldberg. They've both become liberal idiots who every once in a while find a flake of gold in the darkness.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at December 03, 2018 08:54 PM (GefzX)

290 I deTwitted about a year ago when the shadow banning became so well known. I really didn't use it much, mainly to keep up with Iowahawk and Hans Zimmer. But the novelty quickly wore off and I only looked at it once every couple of weeks. Then came the shadow banning and it was bye-bye Twitter.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at December 03, 2018 09:00 PM (GefzX)

291 Read the thread and what stuck with me was someone near the top writing that conservatives needed to stay on Twitter because liberals wanted us to leave. No, no, no.

I'm not getting on, I've seen enough to know Twitter is horrific. Got off FB a couple of months ago which did have some great uses. Screw it, I don't need to feed maw of those monsters with my particulars.

My guess is that almost no one gets their mind changed about politics on Twitter or FB. They just harden their positions. Your pithy comments on Twitter and cute cartoons on FB aren't going to affect anyone for more than a few seconds.

Posted by: Avenger at December 03, 2018 09:13 PM (70ScF)

292 I quit Twitter about a year ago for the same reason. It was making my life worse. It was a source of annoyance and a time waster.

Posted by: itsatax at December 03, 2018 09:14 PM (/1c+O)

293 Glad goldberg blocked me so i can't see his inanity.

Posted by: dagny at December 03, 2018 09:31 PM (nRWPy)

294 I used to read Goldberg and the NRO. Not any longer though. He has lost any claim to be a "thought leader" and is now just a shill for a totally irrelevant mindset. He's to blinded to see it yet.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at December 03, 2018 09:40 PM (2BPRE)

295 feelings don't care about your 'facts'

Posted by: dw at December 04, 2018 06:52 AM (stPAM)

296 Twitter has one virtue, and is the only thing I read there; and I am not a member.
Donald Trump's tweets.

Posted by: Anon at December 04, 2018 07:17 AM (yJy4c)

297 I have become committed to filling my twitter feed with animals (primarily dogs) and nothing but animals.....a huge improvement to my twitter experience! If i am going to waste time, it at least results in a lightening of my spirits instead of the the usual negative emotions experienced after 5 short minutes of political twitter.

Posted by: Penny at December 04, 2018 09:03 AM (dX9uw)

298 I was on Twitter for 2 weeks. I found it to be completely worthless. You were either preaching to the choir or arguing with an idiot for no purpose. It was work. I went to click on it once aftter 2 weeks and said to myself I just don't want to go here anymore, so clicked and deleted my acct.

Posted by: Kid at December 04, 2018 12:56 PM (fx0UM)

299 Had my account deleted a couple of months ago.

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