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The Morning Rant: Middle School Edition

macaca portrait.jpg

[Punk Monkey is having his studs polished and his anal glands expressed, and will be back next week]
Well...shit! I'm just a stupid macaca, but even I can balance my checkbook and know where most of my money is going. Sorry folks, but this is a big problem, and I am deeply suspicious of the Pentagon and their willful ignorance of basic accounting methods and most of all, their curious disinterest in respecting the the tax dollars that fund their pensions and fact-finding trips and nice dinners in fancy hotels.

The Pentagon's Massive Accounting Fraud Exposed: How US military spending keeps rising even as the Pentagon flunks its audit.

On November 15, Ernst & Young and other private firms that were hired to audit the Pentagon announced that they could not complete the job. Congress had ordered an independent audit of the Department of Defense, the government's largest discretionary cost center -- the Pentagon receives 54 cents out of every dollar in federal appropriations -- after the Pentagon failed for decades to audit itself. The firms concluded, however, that the DoD's financial records were riddled with so many bookkeeping deficiencies, irregularities, and errors that a reliable audit was simply impossible.
Nope. Unacceptable. Until our men at arms don't have to buy their own equipment, you asshats don't get to hide behind the complexity of your organization. If you can't do it, then we need to find men who can.

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1 First ?

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 10:58 AM (bUjCl)

2 Yes! Runner

Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2018 10:59 AM (E8rdu)

3 Kinda neat considering that the Pentagon is still one of the largest offices in the world.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 04, 2018 10:59 AM (Z04f8)

4 Okay, I'm reposting this here because it makes me so very happy:

OregonMuse, are you here? They're listening to us!

Geneva Conventions Amended to Include Ban on "The Christmas Shoes."

https://tinyurl.com/y9gcwuf9

(Link goes to Babylon Bee.)

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 10:55 AM (U5tDi)

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 10:59 AM (U5tDi)

5 I got willowed -

367 Spooky shit - Alex Smith breaks his leg 33 years to the day that Theisman broke his. But Thiesman broke his on Monday Night Football. So 33 years and week of Monday Night games Colt McCoy breaks his leg on MNF. The only thing missing is a Redskins QB breaking his leg to a Giant LB. Redskins play the Giants next week. Condolences for Dirty Sanchez are in order.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 10:59 AM (2LelM)

6 I loathe all apes, chimps, monkeys and orangutans.

Posted by: jeanne del norte at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (efMXe)

7 This macaca creeps me out.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (0tfLf)

8 DUMBs and tunnel networks.

Posted by: Palp Pilled at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (rwVFm)

9 >>>the Pentagon receives 54 cents out of every dollar in federal appropriations

That sounds high.

Discretionary spending is like... 50% of federal spending, and 54% of 50% is 25%ish.

Last I heard, military and related expenses even during the height of the iraq war were around 20% of the entire budget.

Time to fire up the google machine.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (GBteo)

10 damnm, barely top 10 again

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (8D42x)

11 Just mint them some trillion dollar coins you economic illiterates!

Posted by: Former Enron Advisor Paul Krugman at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (NF2Bf)

12 I get why military gear and services can be wickedly expensive. What I will not stand for is the DoD telling me they can not account for where the $$ go. (not including secret and black ops)

Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2018 11:01 AM (E8rdu)

13 Well...that's a happier monkey, I guess...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:01 AM (bcbK8)

14 HA !

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:01 AM (bUjCl)

15 6 I loathe all apes, chimps, monkeys and orangutans.
Posted by: jeanne del norte at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (efMXe)



"I know, right?!"

- - Dr. Zaius

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2018 11:01 AM (L1Zsl)

16 This macaca creeps me out.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (0tfLf)
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This one is much better than that pierced creature {shudder}.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:01 AM (U5tDi)

17 Contractors, top brass, and congress critters getting kickbacks. Why would they want to stop that gravy train at the enlisted and tax payer's expense?

Posted by: moki at December 04, 2018 11:01 AM (mFoNl)

18
The ape has Loopy Ocasio-Fiasco's teeth...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2018 11:01 AM (L1Zsl)

19 that the DoD's financial records were riddled with so many bookkeeping deficiencies, irregularities, and errors that a reliable audit was simply impossible.




wow

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:02 AM (bUjCl)

20 And military procurement and expenses have been corrupt for a long, long time. Longer than we've been a country.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:02 AM (bcbK8)

21 12 I get why military gear and services can be wickedly expensive. What I will not stand for is the DoD telling me they can not account for where the $$ go. (not including secret and black ops)
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They go to joint programs and commands cuz we can haz moar generals that way.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:02 AM (2LelM)

22 Explain to me why I should believe The Nation?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2018 11:02 AM (AM1GF)

23
Geneva Conventions Amended to Include Ban on "The Christmas Shoes."

https://tinyurl.com/y9gcwuf9

(Link goes to Babylon Bee.)

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 10:55 AM (U5tDi)

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 10:59 AM



Probably going to see it in a Hallmark movie soon.
Shoot me...shoot me now.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:02 AM (0tfLf)

24 Amen

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 04, 2018 11:02 AM (0O7c5)

25 Ohh, rock me Dr. Zaius!
Ohh, rock me Dr. Zaius!

Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius!

Posted by: Dr. Zaius at December 04, 2018 11:02 AM (NF2Bf)

26 18
The ape has Loopy Ocasio-Fiasco's teeth...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2018 11:01 AM (L1Zsl)

And likely about the same intellectual horsepower.

She's prettier, I'll give her that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (bcbK8)

27 the Pentagon receives 54 cents out of every dollar in federal appropriations

That sounds high.

Discretionary spending is like... 50% of federal spending, and 54% of 50% is 25%ish.

Last I heard, military and related expenses even during the height of the iraq war were around 20% of the entire budget.

Time to fire up the google machine.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (GBteo)

I *THINK* they're ignoring the debt and transfer payments in that number. this way they can still make national defense spending the evil boogey man it is... according to them.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (8D42x)

28 Probably going to see it in a Hallmark movie soon.
Shoot me...shoot me now.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:02 AM (0tfLf)
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Oh, they're way ahead of you, toots. They've already made it into a movie or special or something. I have no intention of finding out what.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (U5tDi)

29 the Pentagon receives 54 cents out of every dollar in federal appropriations

'Appropriations' must mean something different from what I was thinking.

Nice to be the government, though. The stuff they do would land us all in jail.

Posted by: t-bird at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (Y9zp1)

30 This one is much better than that pierced creature {shudder}.

Chacun a son gout.

I think this is creepier than punk monkey.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (fuK7c)

31 "On November 15, Ernst & Young and other private firms that were hired to audit the Pentagon announced that they could not complete the job."

Not it.

Posted by: Augean stableworkers union at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (IqOTP)

32 I have no intention of finding out what.
Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (U5tDi)

They did. It starred Rob Lowe.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at December 04, 2018 11:04 AM (MX7xj)

33 Nice to be the government, though. The stuff they do would land us all in jail.
Posted by: t-bird


Perot had his problems; this wasn't one of them. he was spot on regarding this.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 04, 2018 11:05 AM (Z04f8)

34 We're being as straight with you as we can...

Posted by: The Pentagon at December 04, 2018 11:05 AM (Y9zp1)

35 11 Just mint them some trillion dollar coins you economic illiterates!

has anyone told ocasio-cortez about this?

Posted by: Anachronda at December 04, 2018 11:05 AM (NmR1a)

36 ...wow, numbers are alll over the place on the internet.

From 15% to 25% of total federal spending.

You'd think we could nail that down a little bit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:05 AM (GBteo)

37 32 I have no intention of finding out what.
Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (U5tDi)

They did. It starred Rob Lowe.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at December 04, 2018 11:04 AM (MX7xj)

You know what else Rob Lowe "starred" in...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:06 AM (bcbK8)

38 I think this is creepier than punk monkey.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (fuK7c)
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But this one is an actual real photo. He took it himself. There was a big controversy over who owned the rights, led by, you'll be surprised to hear, PETA. The court awarded the rights to - the macaque.

But a higher court overturned it and the rights now belong to the photographer.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:06 AM (U5tDi)

39 The auditors saying they can't means that there are substantial deficiencies in available information/visitable sites. Its not a complexity so much as unable to verify issues(from what I'm gathering, I'd have to read the actual opinion or lack thereof, but there's only a few categories an auditor's response can take).

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 11:06 AM (t849v)

40 Macaca's eyes aren't big enough for it to be mistaken for Loopy.

Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at December 04, 2018 11:07 AM (nBr1j)

41
"I know, right?!"



- - Dr. Zaius




"I hate every ape I see,

From Chimpan- A to Chimpan- Z...."

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:07 AM (oVJmc)

42 Still can't beat Barney Frank and and his boyfriend Franklin at Fannie/Freddie.

'Member when Bush 43 wanted to audit them, and Frank's House Finance Committee just said "no?"

Good times.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:07 AM (AzW6q)

43 32 I have no intention of finding out what.
Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (U5tDi)

They did. It starred Rob Lowe.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at December 04, 2018 11:04 AM



Alarm sounds!!!!
Testosterone levels dropping!
Staggers over to humidor and liquor cabinet. Pours three fingers and lights up.

Ahhh...stable.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:07 AM (0tfLf)

44 I think graft at the federal level is deserving of the death penalty. Impossible to implement, I know, but there would be a lot fewer hands in the till if some of those hands were cut the hell off.

Posted by: troyriser at December 04, 2018 11:07 AM (1JpTT)

45 Probably going to see it in a Hallmark movie soon.

Shoot me...shoot me now.
=====

I played my best for him, pa-rum-pa-pum-pum . . .

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 04, 2018 11:07 AM (MIKMs)

46 I get why military gear and services can be wickedly expensive. What I will not stand for is the DoD telling me they can not account for where the $$ go. (not including secret and black ops)

Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2018 11:01 AM (E8rdu)

Having worked for a ship builder, I can tell you half the problem in procurement is the fact that even while we were loading equipment, NAVSEA was fiddling with the design and changing requirements. we had to conduct multiple tests over a second or third time because 08 decided that they needed a different requirement. and that was AFTER they had reviewed and approved the test plan.

that and the fact we used to build a ship in less than 2 years, and now it takes 5 times that...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (8D42x)

47 I loathe all apes, chimps, monkeys and orangutans.
Posted by: jeanne del norte at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (efMXe)

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I hate every ape I see
From chim-pan-A to chim-pan-zee

Oh you'll never make a monkey out of me!

Posted by: Troy McClure at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (+F0Wk)

48 The article is from "The Nation," so it will be riddled with jabs at the military and manipulations of the data. But the only real takeaway is that the auditors couldn't finish because the Pentagon is so fucked up.

That is unacceptable.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (A3700)

49 This is very bad but not surprising at all. I would not expect an organization that hasn't been audited in half a century to do anything but look like a clown show. People who are never called upon to account for themselves get sloppy, lazy and stupid.

Yes, I understand, they should have run a tight ship. But they're stupid sloppy bureaucrats, and they didn't. I want to see what happens on the next one, and the one after that. If they ever occur.

Posted by: Vanya at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (7PLM4)

50 I *THINK* they're ignoring the debt and transfer payments in that number. this way they can still make national defense spending the evil boogey man it is... according to them.
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:03 AM (8D42x)

I remember an episode of Penn & Teller's Showtime show Bullshit from back in the day where they had a group of "budget experts" on, and no one could agree what percentage of the budget was allocated to various things.

All these DC experts were giving wildly varying numbers and percentages.

... not good.

You'd think we'd be able to say with some certainty what we spend on what. I guess that's too much to ask.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (GBteo)

51 Are we really pretending that the Pentagon is LESS efficient and honest than the rest of the government?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (oVJmc)

52 "The Christmas Shoes" is a song? I have never heard it. I have heard traditional carols and "modern" Christmas songs such as "I'm dreaming....white Christmas" and "Rudolph" etc, but I've never heard "The Christmas Shoes". Really bad huh?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (AllCR)

53 34 We're being as straight with you as we can...
Posted by: The Pentagon at December 04, 2018 11:05 AM (Y9zp1)

There's the problem. Being straight is not permitted.

Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (nBr1j)

54 [the Pentagon receives 54 cents out of every dollar in federal appropriations]

Um... no. More like 16 cents out of every dollar the Feral Govt spends.

https://tinyurl.com/ya6cm5co

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (O7MnT)

55 This ape looks like he was taking a selfie.

Posted by: IC at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (a0IVu)

56 Macaca's eyes aren't big enough for it to be mistaken for Loopy.

*nods*

I know eyes.

Posted by: Zombie Quint Parts at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (NF2Bf)

57 "54 cents out of every dollar" is bullshit. Defense spending is closer to 18% or 19%.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (tqx48)

58 But this one is an actual real photo. He took it himself. There was a big controversy over who owned the rights, led by, you'll be surprised to hear, PETA. The court awarded the rights to - the macaque.


Oh, I remember the story, I didn't recognize the picture.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (fuK7c)

59 Nice to be the government, though. The stuff they do would land us all in jail.
Posted by: t-bird

>I remember reading in the Robinson books where in the adjutant would list liquor for the pilots as "lubricants."

At the end of one of the novels, the adjutant and the sergeant helping him got sacked over a shipment of jam.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at December 04, 2018 11:09 AM (fhKm4)

60 Were there companies on the books with names like "Chewco"? Sounds like Andrew Fastow type accounting.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2018 11:09 AM (/qEW2)

61 And it was Donny Bats who ordered the audit
https://tinyurl.com/ya3dhcoc

Posted by: sOME mORON at December 04, 2018 11:09 AM (ICWiF)

62 11 Just mint them some trillion dollar coins you economic illiterates!
Posted by: Former Enron Advisor Paul Krugman
_______________

Word!

Why can't people see how easy this accounting shit is? Always saying we need to spend within our means and balance our accounts and other dumb shit like that!

Thank goodness I and my economics degree came along just in time to save the day!

Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at December 04, 2018 11:09 AM (fqUgw)

63 47 I loathe all apes, chimps, monkeys and orangutans.
Posted by: jeanne del norte at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (efMXe)

---------------------------

I hate every ape I see
From chim-pan-A to chim-pan-zee

Oh you'll never make a monkey out of me!
Posted by: Troy McClure at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (+F0Wk)

That play had everything.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:09 AM (bcbK8)

64 I like Selfie Macaca better than Punk Chimp.

Posted by: rickl at December 04, 2018 11:09 AM (xjiRE)

65
Explain to me why I should believe The Nation?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2018 11:02 AM (AM1GF)







Despite their staff of committed commie cocksuckers, The Nation has always held a special place in my heart because they print on newsprint rather than that slick, treated magazine paper. Soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2018 11:10 AM (veoSD)

66 "The Christmas Shoes" is a song? I have never heard it. I have heard traditional carols and "modern" Christmas songs such as "I'm dreaming....white Christmas" and "Rudolph" etc, but I've never heard "The Christmas Shoes". Really bad huh?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (AllCR)
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Oh Fen, it's awful, and I mean that. Basically, a little boy's mom is dying and he goes to the store to buy her Christmas shoes so she can wear them when she meets Jesus tonight.

Because that's exactly what every dying mother wants.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:10 AM (U5tDi)

67 39 The auditors saying they can't means that there are substantial deficiencies in available information/visitable sites. Its not a complexity so much as unable to verify issues(from what I'm gathering, I'd have to read the actual opinion or lack thereof, but there's only a few categories an auditor's response can take).
Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 11:06 AM (t849v)

I read like half the article (long article), so far my take away is that the pentagon just doesn't have records of where trillions of dollars have gone over the look back period.

Honestly, someone explain to me why the government can't use GAAP accounting like every publicly traded company in the country is mandated by law to do?

This making up your own accounting rules as you go thing is a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:10 AM (GBteo)

68 I've been through a few DCAA audits. They mean business.

I have a sense that the article is skipping over a few things, plus I have a very real bias against Ernst & Young being able to effectively audit much outside of a lemonade stand.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 04, 2018 11:10 AM (eytER)

69 Really bad huh?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (AllCR)

That doesn't even begin to do it justice...

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:10 AM (+F0Wk)

70 that the DoD's financial records were riddled with so many bookkeeping deficiencies, irregularities, and errors that a reliable audit was simply impossible.

---

That is either phrased or handled poorly.

And audit that can't be done because everything is so full of errors IS the audit. What happens next is the question.


(Spoilers: The answer is "nothing.")

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at December 04, 2018 11:11 AM (0NAbP)

71
Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2018 11:11 AM (L1Zsl)

72 52 "The Christmas Shoes" is a song? I have never heard it. I have heard traditional carols and "modern" Christmas songs such as "I'm dreaming....white Christmas" and "Rudolph" etc, but I've never heard "The Christmas Shoes". Really bad huh?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (AllCR)


Makes my jaw ache from grinding my teeth.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 04, 2018 11:11 AM (di1hb)

73 But the only real takeaway is that the auditors couldn't finish because the Pentagon is so fucked up.
That is unacceptable.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (A3700)

Somebody post a link to the DOD procurement process flowchart, I'm phoneposting or I'd do it.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 04, 2018 11:11 AM (IqOTP)

74 Fraudulent accounting in the Pentagon?

Ha. I've wondered why the guys who served a tour there in the Comptroller's office ALWAYS go promoted. Now we know.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:11 AM (0tfLf)

75 I can understand some of the outrage at the Pentagon audit, but there are parts that function that way for a reason. Pooky's mother ship squirreled away money because of times like the sequestration. It gutted military spending and there were times that they had to get airborne RIGHT NOW. So, how do you audit the "Congress Is Full of Spineless Wimps Fund"?

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 04, 2018 11:12 AM (XKZwp)

76 Dubious nature of details aside, I wish this surprised me, I really do. Sadly I've heard tales just about Air Force IT logistics that lead me to suspect that, yeah, it's pretty damn bad in the Pentagon.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 04, 2018 11:12 AM (AM1GF)

77 A question for the morons, which I was thinking about yesterday after watching GHWB's body off-loaded from AF1:

I know the plane itself is designated "AF1" and that any plane the President is on is automatically designated "AF1." But if the President is on one plane and "Air Force One" is flying around with other passengers, are both designated "AF1," or only the one the President is physically on board?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 11:12 AM (kqsXK)

78 Wait. They've discovered waste, fraud and abuse in the government?!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (+y/Ru)

79 57 "54 cents out of every dollar" is bullshit. Defense spending is closer to 18% or 19%.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (tqx4

In the previous sentence they mention "discretionary" spending.

But yeah, it didn't sound right to me, so I googled around.

Numbers are wildly varying -- from 15% of entire budget to 25%.

...it's kind of worrying we can't even figure out military spending to the nearest billion dollars.

It's true of the entire federal government though, the military is far from unique.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (GBteo)

80 52 "The Christmas Shoes" is a song? I have never heard it. I have heard traditional carols and "modern" Christmas songs such as "I'm dreaming....white Christmas" and "Rudolph" etc, but I've never heard "The Christmas Shoes". Really bad huh?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
_____________

You haven't missed anything. It is vomit-inducing treacle.

Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (fqUgw)

81 "The Christmas Shoes" is a song? I have never heard it. I have heard traditional carols and "modern" Christmas songs such as "I'm dreaming....white Christmas" and "Rudolph" etc, but I've never heard "The Christmas Shoes". Really bad huh?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (AllCR)
--------

Oh Fen, it's awful, and I mean that. Basically, a little boy's mom is dying and he goes to the store to buy her Christmas shoes so she can wear them when she meets Jesus tonight.

Because that's exactly what every dying mother wants.


Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:10 AM (U5tDi)
************************
Hands down, the worst Christmas song ever written. *cringe*

Posted by: redridinghood at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (hECVl)

82 Also, Urban Meyer has decided to leave a storied and proud college football program because of health problems again.

IIRC he won't coach (there) after the Rose Bowl.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (0NAbP)

83 Haven't heard 'The Christmas Shoes,' so to be the worst its going to have to have a more penetrating earworm than 'ba-rump-ba-bum-bum' in that frigging 'Little Drummer Boy' atrocity.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (oVJmc)

84 Military procurement, and especially in the Navy (outside of the SSN program) is a corrupt swamp.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (hyuyC)

85 Not as surprising as it might sound, considering Congress has been doing its' level best to craft laws governing Pentagon spending to make it unaccountable.

Posted by: SDN at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (4epXx)

86 Nothing beats the ape with the AK47


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 04, 2018 11:14 AM (9Om/r)

87 I suspect that no department of the federal govt. kind and quite a few states govt. programs would not stand up to audits.


Silly people that just isn't done. /s

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 04, 2018 11:14 AM (0OmEj)

88 "The Christmas Shoes" is a song?

-
Thigh high boot news.

https://bit.ly/2Srfqgk

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2018 11:14 AM (+y/Ru)

89 I know the plane itself is designated "AF1" and that any plane the President is on is automatically designated "AF1." But if the President is on one plane and "Air Force One" is flying around with other passengers, are both designated "AF1," or only the one the President is physically on board?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 11:12 AM (kqsXK)


Only the one the President is physically on board. When "AF1" flies the outgoing president home after the inauguration, it takes on a new designation for that flight, IIRC.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 04, 2018 11:14 AM (wCmLp)

90 Ah, there we go. Appropriations are discretionary spending. Defense is almost 50% of that $1.2T. Mandatory spending (entitlements) and interest payments are $2.4T as of 2014.

So that puts defense at around 15% of spending.

Posted by: t-bird at December 04, 2018 11:14 AM (DCYln)

91 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (C)

Only the one the President is on is AF-1.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 04, 2018 11:14 AM (hyuyC)

92 Awesome reasoning - wish I'd thought of this years ago.

"Our projects are too costly and complicated to be tracked. You'll just need to keep funding us."

Hey...wait.

Did they borrow that excuse from Congress, or did they lend it to Congress?

It's too complicated and costly to explain. We should just keep sending them money and hope for the best.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:14 AM (37IEG)

93 Because that's exactly what every dying mother wants.


Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:10 AM



But there are a lot of muthas out there dying to get what they want.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:14 AM (0tfLf)

94 I can understand some of the outrage at the Pentagon audit, but there are parts that function that way for a reason. Pooky's mother ship squirreled away money because of times like the sequestration. It gutted military spending and there were times that they had to get airborne RIGHT NOW. So, how do you audit the "Congress Is Full of Spineless Wimps Fund"?


Posted by: pookysgirl at December 04, 2018 11:12 AM (XKZwp)

not to mention the fact that at the end of the fiscal year, WE MUST SPEND EVRY LAST PENNY! or else our budget gets cut.

that always ticked me off, but I usually got nice boots, coveralls and tools out of the deal...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (8D42x)

95 You haven't missed anything. It is vomit-inducing treacle.
Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

>You're one to talk about shoes, Stalinia.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (fhKm4)

96 Prayer Requests:

If you have a prayer request for yourself or others and would like it included in the prayer list on tomorrow's daily rant, please send it to me by 7:00 EST tonight:

FenelonDirection18 at sign gmail.com

And yes, I am aware of Grammie's situation and she will be added to the prayer list. Thanks for praying! Please note: If your request has been on there for five or more weeks, it will be removed unless I receive an update. It's not that we don't care; We do! We only have so much room. Please also feel free to send praise reports as well. Thanks for praying!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (AllCR)

97 "Nope. Unacceptable. Until our men at arms don't have to buy their own equipment, you asshats don't get to hide behind the complexity of your organization. If you can't do it, then we need to find men who can".

Men? MEN? What is wrong with you? Are you some kind of Hitlerkind patriarchalist? Just because men do most things better than the other genders doesn't mean they can count better! All humans have 11 fingers and 12 toes, so we can do accounting stuff good, too!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (3sjI6)

98 For those of you who haven't heard "Christmas Shoes," I say count your blessings. I would send you to Youtube to listen to it so you could see we are not exaggerating, but I like you all too much.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (U5tDi)

99 I've never heard a song The Christmas Shoes. I thought was a weepy tv movie.

Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (nBr1j)

100 Remember Georgia friends. Vote today in the SOS runoff. Very important position

Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (HrSJb)

101 In the previous sentence they mention "discretionary" spending.

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Yeah - it's a misleading bit of legerdemain. Discretionary spending is only about a third of the budget.

One of the main reasons it exists is to fund the military - 54% is perfectly reasonable.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:16 AM (AzW6q)

102 Having worked for a ship builder, I can tell you half the problem in procurement is the fact that even while we were loading equipment, NAVSEA was fiddling with the design and changing requirements. we had to conduct multiple tests over a second or third time because 08 decided that they needed a different requirement. and that was AFTER they had reviewed and approved the test plan.

that and the fact we used to build a ship in less than 2 years, and now it takes 5 times that...
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Little Crappy Ships by chance?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:16 AM (2LelM)

103 and I am deeply suspicious of the Pentagon and their willful ignorance of basic accounting methods"

You misspelled "government"...

And no, AF1 is the designation for the aircraft that carries the President, regardless of which fixed wing craft he's on.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 04, 2018 11:16 AM (6qErC)

104 Government runs on cash accounting. GAAP is accrual so it doesn't jive.

Audits aren't corrective(though that service often comes alongside one) they simply confirm whether or not information provided is roughly accurate. Sounds like in this case validation isn't possible.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 11:16 AM (t849v)

105 So that puts defense at around 15% of spending.
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As the only truly Constitutionally-mandated spending, not bad. Yes, I am uncomfortable with the waste and corruption, but compared to the other mammoth waste and corruption spending, not quite panicked yet.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 04, 2018 11:16 AM (MIKMs)

106 Christmas in Hollis > The Christmas Shoes

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:16 AM (bcbK8)

107
Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Who isn't?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2018 11:17 AM (aKsyK)

108 Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

We definitely need another racist woman running. The fight between her and he Mooch should be amusing.


probably another vanity run like Jackson and Sharpton; run to get paid to bow out.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 04, 2018 11:17 AM (Z04f8)

109 Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:10 AM (U5tDi)

Sounds awful; I think I'll skip looking for that one.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2018 11:17 AM (AllCR)

110 Nevermind I found it

https://tinyurl.com/yd3cck9m

Posted by: hogmartin at December 04, 2018 11:17 AM (IqOTP)

111 Six trillion here, ten trillion there ... pretty soon you're talking about real money.

Actually no, that is the problem ... we are talking about NOT real money, it is fiat currency ... $4T in QE that we know of, reports of maybe another $21T missing ... perhaps in that monetary stabilization fund (forget what it is called) ... which maybe has been "buying" our bonds that don't sell on the open market (via their own "QE")?


But until they break it, we might as well just print it out of thin air, rather than pay interest to China and have to pay them back. It's not like they plan to fiscally fix anything ... (thank Paul Ryan, the guy brought in to save us, then did record bloat omnibus)


Bad Santa is rewarding the bad boys and girls ... doom and gloom ... until the reset Jubilee?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 04, 2018 11:17 AM (Cus5s)

112 Are they at least 'cute' shoes?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (oVJmc)

113 OregonMuse and I have bonded over our hatred of "Christmas Shoes."

It's a beautiful thing. I hope he sees that article. I've sent it to him, just to be sure. He is probably weeping with joy as I type.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (U5tDi)

114 Haven't heard 'The Christmas Shoes,' so to be the worst its going to have to have a more penetrating earworm than 'ba-rump-ba-bum-bum' in that frigging 'Little Drummer Boy' atrocity.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (oVJmc)

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It's not really ear-wormy, which is about the only thing it's got going for it. It is basically the sappiest, most crass attempt to play on the listener's emotions.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (+F0Wk)

115
As the only truly Constitutionally-mandated spending...

Is it truly mandated or merely permitted?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (aKsyK)

116 Nope. Unacceptable. Until our men at arms don't have to buy their own
equipment, you asshats don't get to hide behind the complexity of your
organization. If you can't do it, then we need to find men who can.


Concur. Clearly we need Top. Men.

Posted by: DocJ at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (NYS7S)

117 Are they at least 'cute' shoes?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (oVJmc)
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From what someone told me, and I don't know if this is correct, they're red high heels. Again, because this is what every dying mother wants.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (U5tDi)

118 Continuing Resolutions mean we are resolved to continue. Thanks Sparky.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (2LelM)

119 Ah, how I long for a return to the days of useful managed government spending, like the bridges to nowhere.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:19 AM (37IEG)

120 Having worked for a ship builder, I can tell you half the problem in procurement is the fact that even while we were loading equipment, NAVSEA was fiddling with the design and changing requirements. we had to conduct multiple tests over a second or third time because 08 decided that they needed a different requirement. and that was AFTER they had reviewed and approved the test plan.

that and the fact we used to build a ship in less than 2 years, and now it takes 5 times that...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (8D42x)

That, and for extended yard times, they are getting initial direction from guys in desks in DC, they don't talk to the crew. You know, the guys who actually know the damn ship.

So suddenly you're in the yards, part way through, and the Yard Dogs run across an issue the crew had known about, but could not get the brass to address.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 11:19 AM (NgKpN)

121 I think it was Ronald Reagan who said "Government is expensive, just be thankful we don't get all of it we pay for".

Posted by: Iowa Bob at December 04, 2018 11:19 AM (tqx48)

122 I don't tend to play Christmas music much so, given that I have never heard The Christmas Shoes, there are no Christmas songs I absolutely hate.
Mary's Boy Child by Boney M comes close-ish.

Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at December 04, 2018 11:19 AM (nBr1j)

123 maybe ask Lockheed Martin if they've seen an extra few trillion laying around somewhere ...

Posted by: illiniwek at December 04, 2018 11:19 AM (Cus5s)

124 that always ticked me off, but I usually got nice boots, coveralls and tools out of the deal...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (8D42x)

Ahh, yes, the 'Spend-Ex'.

Every year, each combat unit gets allocated a certain amount of ammo for training. If you don't shoot it all, your allotment for the next year gets cut; why you can't simply draw a smaller amount was never explained.

So in September, the whole company/ battalion goes to the range. You maybe do a little real training, but then you line up on the firing line, they pop all the targets up downrange, and you shoot until all the ammo is gone. If you actually want to practice, there's no better time because the only order of the day is "Shoot it all", but it very quickly gets really, really boring as you go back to the table and they hand you another twelve full magazines.

Posted by: Vanya at December 04, 2018 11:19 AM (7PLM4)

125 I loathe all apes, chimps, monkeys and orangutans.
Posted by: jeanne del norte at December 04, 2018 11:00 AM (efMXe)



Good to know. Tell me, do you have any strong feelings positive or negative about prosimians?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (+pOTV)

126 And again, it's "The Nation", so anything there is best taken with salt.

A lot of it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (6qErC)

127 108 Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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Now that chick is a nose tackle.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (2LelM)

128 So this kid's mom is dying. He wants to get her new shoes. He goes into her room and she has a present for him but dies before she can give it to him. He goes outside to cry and is abducted by aliens.
So essentially this is the prelude to Guardians of the Galaxy?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (0tfLf)

129 Oh also everyone is always hiding things as pookysgirl mentioned. This is because the practice of manager reserves seems to be prohibited in the government(a flexible slush fund to cover unexpected but overall modest deficiencies). Appealing to congress for new funds every time there's a shortfall has issues so hiding funds became the norm.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (t849v)

130 In general, I like the Christmas season, even though I'm not Christian.

But, after about a week, I can't stand the Christmas music anymore.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (AzW6q)

131 I see a penis

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (d7Ww2)

132 107


Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton



Who isn't?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2018 11:17 AM (aKsyK)
I'm not, but I tend towards being a Republican so I guess I'll just have to consider changing parties.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (37IEG)

133 Financier of the NeverTrumpers revealed...
https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/
1069948522135515144

Pierre Omidyar

Posted by: zombie cosmo at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (Evws/)

134 It's like that Milton Friedman quote. The government has no incentive to care about such matters.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (/qEW2)

135 I once sat in on a DoD audit of the defense contractor I worked for. The auditor was an idiot. The questions were foolish. The person on our side ran rings around the auditor. The Beltway Bandits take the DoD for a ride because they can.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (RD7QR)

136 You want to hear something really unbelievable? WaPo fact checks Alexandria Ojos Locos' claim of $21 trillion Pentagon waste and gives her four Pinocchios.

https://bit.ly/2PhcAbL

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (+y/Ru)

137 "Don't ask, don't tell", as fiscal policy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (KoKdw)

138 #133 is me. Zombie Cosmo would never sell out Jonah that way no matter how big a dumbass his master is.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (Evws/)

139 not to mention the fact that at the end of the fiscal year, WE MUST SPEND EVRY LAST PENNY! or else our budget gets cut.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (8D42x)

yeah, it's absurd. State & local governments function the same way.

How about "hey guys, turns out we didn't need this billion you appropriated for us this year. We may need it next year, we'll let you know."

In other word, some kind of zero-based budgeting department by department.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (GBteo)

140 Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2018 11:11 AM (L1Zsl)

You racist mofo! I made more money running for governor than I ever could make AS governor cuz i don't gotta pay taxes on it. Why would I wanna get elected? Just buy my bling, work on my weave, and shake my booty. Dat's da life.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (3sjI6)

141 90 Ah, there we go. Appropriations are discretionary spending. Defense is almost 50% of that $1.2T. Mandatory spending (entitlements) and interest payments are $2.4T as of 2014.

So that puts defense at around 15% of spending.
Posted by: t-bird



Given that rather huge and fundamental error, I'm disinclined to give The Nation's article any credence. I am sure the DoD accounting process is riddled with errors, and there is huge waste, but I'm just not interested in anything The Nation has to say.

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (wW03z)

142 Little Crappy Ships by chance?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:16 AM (2LelM)

Thank god no. had I worked on that program, I would have shaved my head, put on a hairshirt, and hidden out in ace's hunting grounds hoping to be flayed as a bit of penance....

I was on the ford project. but only had to worry about getting power TO the EMALS...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (8D42x)

143 The Christmas Shoes- For your barfing pleasure.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpkI7GW2V34

Posted by: redridinghood at December 04, 2018 11:22 AM (hECVl)

144 I wouldn't be upset with Defense spending is we could win a war once in awhile.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:22 AM (2LelM)

145 I remember an episode of Penn & Teller's Showtime show Bullshit from back in the day where they had a group of "budget experts" on, and no one could agree what percentage of the budget was allocated to various things.

All these DC experts were giving wildly varying numbers and percentages.

... not good.

You'd think we'd be able to say with some certainty what we spend on what. I guess that's too much to ask.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (GBteo)


Remember how when the Uniparty-R had this really really smart up and cummer, Paul Ryan, who learned all the ins and outs of the budgeting process by being all bipartisany and sitting on Barney's frank? That worked out well.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2018 11:22 AM (y7DUB)

146 that and the fact we used to build a ship in less than 2 years, and now it takes 5 times that...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (8D42x)


Initial design for the next class of sub lasted, I kid you not, 11-years. But it's not a middle-class welfare program. No sir!

Posted by: DocJ at December 04, 2018 11:22 AM (NYS7S)

147 Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2018 11:11 AM (L1Zsl)


Oh joy! Frabjuous Day!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at December 04, 2018 11:22 AM (hLRSq)

148 A full, no hold barred audit of the govt...state and federal woul result in DC and most Capitols aflame

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 04, 2018 11:22 AM (OOH1c)

149 I like the Christmas season, even though I'm not Christian.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (AzW6q)

Me too!

And I really like saying "merry Christmas" in response to that treacly stupid offensive blather "happy holidays."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2018 11:23 AM (A3700)

150 But, after about a week, I can't stand the Christmas music anymore.
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If possible, find a classical station. They do some Christmas with regular programming.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 04, 2018 11:23 AM (MIKMs)

151 Men? MEN? What is wrong with you? Are you some kind of Hitlerkind patriarchalist? Just because men do most things better than the other genders doesn't mean they can count better! All humans have 11 fingers and 12 toes, so we can do accounting stuff good, too!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (3sjI6)

Yes, but Men do have an inherent advantage when it comes to higher math...

Both men and women can count to 20 it they take their shoes off...

but only Men can reach 21, by dropping their drawers!

Its SCIENCE!

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 11:23 AM (NgKpN)

152 The Christmas Shoes- For your barfing pleasure.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpkI7GW2V34
Posted by: redridinghood at December 04, 2018 11:22 AM (hECVl)

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You must like getting coal for Christmas

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:23 AM (+F0Wk)

153 but I'm just not interested in anything The Nation has to say."

Yeah. The level of proofs there are a bit, well...

nonexistant.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 04, 2018 11:23 AM (6qErC)

154 Given that rather huge and fundamental error, I'm disinclined to give The Nation's article any credence. I am sure the DoD accounting process is riddled with errors, and there is huge waste, but I'm just not interested in anything The Nation has to say.
Posted by: pep at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (wW03z)

It's not an error, it's just their typical leftist slant.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:23 AM (GBteo)

155 Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.

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Don't Tread On Me!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2018 11:23 AM (+y/Ru)

156 Continuing Resolutions mean we are resolved to continue. Thanks Sparky.


Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (2LelM)

He just didn't get it it. He didn't even have a passing familiarity with the military, since no one active in his childhood served.

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 04, 2018 11:24 AM (XKZwp)

157 155. Sista Soljah 2020

Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2018 11:24 AM (HrSJb)

158 The best thing about the left: on one hand, they'll say "we spend 10x (or whatever) more on military then the Chinese! Obviously we have a military that's wayyy to big" (justifying cutting the size of the military) while simultaneously saying "the pentagon wastes and loses untold billions of dollars every year."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2018 11:24 AM (GBteo)

159 I don't tend to play Christmas music much so, given that I have never
heard The Christmas Shoes, there are no Christmas songs I absolutely
hate.

Mary's Boy Child by Boney M comes close-ish.



Since I really don't like Christmas music, naturally I collect the worst I can find.

On 8-track I've got a Disco Christmas album and a Slim Whitman one, the Chipmunks (naturally) on LP, and, believe it or not, a Max Headroom Christmas single:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4vvAxepz4

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:24 AM (oVJmc)

160 The Christmas Shoes- For your barfing pleasure.

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Leaping Lucifer.

Do NOT follow link unless you have an insulin autoinjector directly at hand, uncapped, and ready to rock.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:24 AM (AzW6q)

161 I'm not Jewish, but I never tire of a good corned beef sandwich.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:25 AM (2LelM)

162 Red high heels?

Then this must be something in Portugal.
A friend of mine is there on vacation and her FB page shows a little town square filled with white paper mats of some kind and each holds a pair of red high heels.
I just figured it was some crappy art thing.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:25 AM (0tfLf)

163
that always ticked me off, but I usually got nice boots, coveralls and tools out of the deal...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:15 AM (8D42x)

Ahh, yes, the 'Spend-Ex'.

Every year, each combat unit gets allocated a certain amount of ammo for training. If you don't shoot it all, your allotment for the next year gets cut; why you can't simply draw a smaller amount was never explained.

So in September, the whole company/ battalion goes to the range. You maybe do a little real training, but then you line up on the firing line, they pop all the targets up downrange, and you shoot until all the ammo is gone. If you actually want to practice, there's no better time because the only order of the day is "Shoot it all", but it very quickly gets really, really boring as you go back to the table and they hand you another twelve full magazines.

Posted by: Vanya at December 04, 2018 11:19 AM (7PLM4)








Ah yes. The joy of linking together about 1000 rounds of 7.62 NATO blanks and firing them through The Pig until the blank adapter glowed and started to melt.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2018 11:25 AM (veoSD)

164 Minding the important things in life ...

LGBT Site Writer Calls Ariana Grande's New Video 'Anti-Queer,' Removes Byline After 'Death Threats'

... I'm impressed that this 'donut licker' could do anything that would invoke death threats

Posted by: SMOD at December 04, 2018 11:25 AM (QkjLD)

165 Man I hope Georgia Republicans are not forgetting about the SOS race today. Not hearing much chatter

Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2018 11:25 AM (HrSJb)

166 that and the fact we used to build a ship in less than 2 years, and now it takes 5 times that...

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I've mentioned it before, but the one that I see constantly is how 5-10 mile stretches of county roads will be torn up, re-paved, and painted in two months (tops), and road repair/construction in any major city takes years and years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at December 04, 2018 11:25 AM (0NAbP)

167 Since I really don't like Christmas music, naturally I collect the worst I can find.

On 8-track I've got a Disco Christmas album and a Slim Whitman one, the Chipmunks (naturally) on LP, and, believe it or not, a Max Headroom Christmas single:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4vvAxepz4
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:24 AM (oVJmc)
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Good grief. Then "Christmas Shoes" is your jam. Along with Dominic the Donkey, I Want A Hippopotamus for Christmas, and Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:26 AM (U5tDi)

168 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (C)

Only the one the President is on is AF-1.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 04, 2018 11:14 AM (hyuyC)


Any aircraft the president is on takes on as its designation [service name] One, such as Marine One, Army One, Navy One. The S-3 GWB flew in to the Lincoln is the only Navy One I know of. There has not yet been a Coast Guard One.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at December 04, 2018 11:26 AM (hLRSq)

169 Always thought Grande was Hispanic, but she is 100% Italian

Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2018 11:26 AM (HrSJb)

170
Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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The DNC primaries are shaping up as comedy gold. The problem, of course, is that it is all a mutual admiration society and there will be no significant bloodshed.

Did *anyone* ever actually criticize Hillary, the most vulnerable politician in generations? No.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 04, 2018 11:26 AM (YvUf/)

171 Posted by: pep at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (wW03z)

There's some sand over at hotair.com in which you can bury your head...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2018 11:26 AM (/25vK)

172 Rumsfeld announced on 9/10/2001 that 2.3 trillion was misosng and couldn't be accounted for by the DoD. Since 9/11/2001 at least 7 trillion or more has gone missing.

DUMBs, tunnels, and Space Force.

Posted by: Palp Pilled at December 04, 2018 11:27 AM (rwVFm)

173 I did a bit of search. E&Y audited DLA - Defense Logistics Agency early 2018. Found financial management lacking ("weak") within the agency. Found it failed to keep track of 800 million DOLLARS in construction projects. This led Pentagon to start its first agency wide audit in Pentagon's history.

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:27 AM (bUjCl)

174 Yes, but Men do have an inherent advantage when it comes to higher math...

Both men and women can count to 20 it they take their shoes off...

but only Men can reach 21, by dropping their drawers!

Its SCIENCE!
Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 11:23 AM (NgKpN)

They also have two different modes they can use for the 21st appendage. If it points up, it's a plus one. If it's limp, it's a minus one.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at December 04, 2018 11:27 AM (3sjI6)

175 Ah yes. The joy of linking together about 1000 rounds of 7.62 NATO blanks and firing them through The Pig until the blank adapter glowed and started to melt.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2018 11:25 AM



Love da Pig!


Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:27 AM (0tfLf)

176 'Appropriations' must mean something different from what I was thinking.

Nice to be the government, though. The stuff they do would land us all in jail.
Posted by: t-bird

..............

yeah.. no shit..

In the 70's, I worked at a university biochemistry department storeroom.. We dispensed lots of chemicals of all kinds and the salesman from different suppliers were always trying to get in good with us..

We were told at one point that we had to stop accepting contributions by the salesman to our annual department Christmas bash.. They would fund the booze and such...

But no.. that is a kickback and it had to stop!

Just imagine what Grumman and Lockheed and Boeing shell out for "gifts" and trips and wining and dining Defense Dept. personnel each year! Gotta be millions!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 04, 2018 11:27 AM (so+oy)

177 He just didn't get it it. He didn't even have a passing familiarity with the military, since no one active in his childhood served.
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Pookey, his granddad, grandma and mommy all served. They were all hard left Marxists operatives in the employ of CIA/State Department. See Director Brennan for the details.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (2LelM)

178 I'm not Jewish, but I never tire of a good corned beef sandwich.


Corned beef is Irish. Pastrami is Jewish.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

179
I've mentioned it before, but the one that I see constantly is how 5-10 mile stretches of county roads will be torn up, re-paved, and painted in two months (tops), and road repair/construction in any major city takes years and years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB at December 04, 2018 11:25 AM (0NAbP)






Also depends on which state you're in. One thing that surprised me about Texas when I moved here is that highway projects that would take 15 years or more in CA take about 2 years max in TX.

When it comes to building stuff, Texans don't fuck around.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (veoSD)

180 I'd like to report to the IRS the way the Pentagon doesn't report anything.

Posted by: Robert17 at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (6ceHB)

181 We have a tremendously expensive military.

I think Insty quoted someone with "Nothing is as expensive as a second-best military."

The military budget is like $800B. That is a shitload of money, and OF COURSE there is fraud, waste, and abuse in there.

I had a buddy who was in the Provisional Authority in Iraq in 2004. He had a safe where he kept about $10M in cash to, well, take care of stuff. Stuff that needed to be taken care of. When he spent money out of that safe, he got money to replace it.

I strongly suspect that an audit on that particular account would "fail."

And that was probably just $100M or so total. Iraq cost something like a half billion dollars a DAY.

Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 11:29 AM (ZfRYq)

182 Corned beef is Irish. Pastrami is Jewish.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

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Feh. You'll have to pry the corned beef from my cold, dead hands, O'Hanrahan.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:29 AM (AzW6q)

183 So this kid's mom is dying. He wants to get her new shoes. He goes into her room and she has a present for him but dies before she can give it to him. He goes outside to cry and is abducted by aliens.
So essentially this is the prelude to Guardians of the Galaxy?
Posted by: Diogenes


Star Lord Chapter 1.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2018 11:29 AM (c3AZU)

184 that and the fact we used to build a ship in less than 2 years, and now it takes 5 times that...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:08 AM (8D42x)


Initial design for the next class of sub lasted, I kid you not, 11-years. But it's not a middle-class welfare program. No sir!


Posted by: DocJ at December 04, 2018 11:22 AM (NYS7S)

the next ford class ship has 9 years from initial order of turbines to delivery. assuming they can keep it on schedule. which is highly unlikely.

HALF that at least is due to NAVSEA's "management" and incompetence.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:29 AM (8D42x)

185 I'm not Jewish, but I never tire of a good corned beef sandwich.


Corned beef is Irish. Pastrami is Jewish.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

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Ah, pastrami. The most sensual of all the salted, cured meats.

Posted by: George Costanza at December 04, 2018 11:29 AM (+F0Wk)

186 One more vote against the Nation. The newspaper for idle rich champagne socialists and the marxists they oppress.

Posted by: scottst at December 04, 2018 11:30 AM (mDrEG)

187 149
I like the Christmas season, even though I'm not Christian.



Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (AzW6q)


Good on you, it's supposed to be the thought that counts, wishing others happiness and good fortune. And wistfully hoping for some good magic even though you're not a wiccan.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:30 AM (37IEG)

188 Corned beef is Irish. Pastrami is Jewish.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

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Feh. You'll have to pry the corned beef from my cold, dead hands, O'Hanrahan.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


But us micks are still allowed to eat pastrami, correct?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (c3AZU)

189 Fat fuck failure/fraud Stacey "Tank" Abrams now thinking for running (i.e plotting to steal) for Prezdnt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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The DNC primaries are shaping up as comedy gold. The problem, of course, is that it is all a mutual admiration society and there will be no significant bloodshed.

Did *anyone* ever actually criticize Hillary, the most vulnerable politician in generations? No.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

............

The more, the merrier! Bring em on!

But then again, as I have been saying.. the more in the race, the more likely Hillary will take a plurality in the primaries.. but that's OK too!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (so+oy)

190 178 I'm not Jewish, but I never tire of a good corned beef sandwich.


Corned beef is Irish. Pastrami is Jewish.
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I thought corned beef was pretty standard fare throughout northern Europe. Dittos pastrami. Either way, I find the best corned beef sandwiches at Jewish Delis.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (2LelM)

191 Ah, pastrami. The most sensual of all the salted, cured meats.

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I love pastrami, and I hate to say this, but:

Prosciutto.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (AzW6q)

192 Mary Poppins produced by the Radical Anti Trump hater from Hamilton.

Pass

Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (HrSJb)

193 Man I hope Georgia Republicans are not forgetting about the SOS race today. Not hearing much chatter


Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2018 11:25 AM (HrSJb)
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Jonah, keep reminding everyone. Wondering if Calm Mentor & Jane D'oh have voted.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (hECVl)

194 I'm not Jewish, but I never tire of a good corned beef sandwich.


Corned beef is Irish. Pastrami is Jewish.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

Stupid Baltimore not having Primanti Bros around here.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (KUaJL)

195 181 We have a tremendously expensive military.

I think Insty quoted someone with "Nothing is as expensive as a second-best military."

The military budget is like $800B. That is a shitload of money, and OF COURSE there is fraud, waste, and abuse in there.

I had a buddy who was in the Provisional Authority in Iraq in 2004. He had a safe where he kept about $10M in cash to, well, take care of stuff. Stuff that needed to be taken care of. When he spent money out of that safe, he got money to replace it.

I strongly suspect that an audit on that particular account would "fail."

And that was probably just $100M or so total. Iraq cost something like a half billion dollars a DAY.

Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 11:29 AM (ZfRYq)
That's a manager reserve. Sound business practice but not allowed in government. So it still exists, but is hidden. The government and military probably wouldn't function at all if people weren't breaking the rules all the time but this also opens up plenty of room for corruption.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (t849v)

196 I love pastrami, and I hate to say this, but:

Prosciutto.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (AzW6q)
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Now you're talking my language, baby doll.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (U5tDi)

197 191. Ahh George C. Patrami and TV in Bed

Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (HrSJb)

198 Time for another Hanukkah song from the Maccabeats, an acapella group of Orthodox Jews who came out of Yeshiva University. This song is "The latke recipe" a parody based on (to me) dreadful song, "Shut up and dance":


https://tinyurl.com/yas2y486


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (AllCR)

199 Hey, how about Hillary's State Department "losing" $6 Billion?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (W+vEI)

200 I see a penis

Posted by: nurse ratched

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Oh, sorry! Forgot to put up tape over the camera.

My bad.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (SUd6i)

201 But us micks are still allowed to eat pastrami, correct?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (c3AZU)

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Pastrami is for all people. Except the Hindus.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (AzW6q)

202 If you actually want to practice, there's no better time because the only order of the day is "Shoot it all", but it very quickly gets really, really boring as you go back to the table and they hand you another twelve full magazines.
Posted by: Vanya at December 04, 2018 11:19 AM (7PLM4)

I loved those shoot-em-up days at the range, but then, I was an M60 machinegunner. I loved my gun.

Posted by: troyriser at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (1JpTT)

203 171 Posted by: pep at December 04, 2018 11:21 AM (wW03z)

There's some sand over at hotair.com in which you can bury your head...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



What part of "I am sure the DoD accounting process is riddled with errors, and there is huge waste" was unclear?

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (wW03z)

204
When it comes to building stuff, Texans don't fuck around.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (veoSD)
Well, except for I-35 between Dallas and Austin. I suspect there's way too much f*ing and not enough working on the road going on.
19 years I've been going up and down that road, and 19 years they've been working on it.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (37IEG)

205 181 We have a tremendously expensive military.
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Running a world empire has its costs.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (2LelM)

206 Out here in the burbs, pastrami (the good stuff) is almost non-existent.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (so+oy)

207 I love pastrami, and I hate to say this, but:

Prosciutto.



Perche "hate"?

Prosciutto is sublime.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (fuK7c)

208 And just like that - POOF! - Jeffrey Epstein will avoid testifying over sexual abuse allegations with new secret deal

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Nothing suspicious about that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (+y/Ru)

209 Discretionary spending is like... 50% of federal spending.


Pretty sure discretionary spending is less than 1/3 of federal spending. Mandatory spending eats up the majority of the budget.

Posted by: no good deed at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (1uG1d)

210 Did *anyone* ever actually criticize Hillary, the most vulnerable politician in generations? No.
Posted by: Mike Hammer



I suspect the first one to do so, and who is free of the Clinton Crime Family reach within the Party, will be emerge as the early lead.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (0tfLf)

211 Tank Abrams is waiting on SOS runoff tonight. If Dem steals it, she runs for Senate in 2020 against Perdue

Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (HrSJb)

212 There has not yet been a Coast Guard One.

There were several Golf Carts One. Wore those fuckers out! They had trouble going off-path.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (C78No)

213 167 Since I really don't like Christmas music, naturally I collect the worst I can find.

On 8-track I've got a Disco Christmas album and a Slim Whitman one, the Chipmunks (naturally) on LP, and, believe it or not, a Max Headroom Christmas single:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4vvAxepz4
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:24 AM (oVJmc)
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Good grief. Then "Christmas Shoes" is your jam. Along with Dominic the Donkey, I Want A Hippopotamus for Christmas, and Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer.
Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:26 AM (U5tDi)

Best Christmas album I own is called "Yule be Swinging", its old 40's Swing versions of Christmas music... Louis Armstrong... folks like that.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (NgKpN)

214 Are they at least 'cute' shoes?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (oVJmc)

Air Jordans...........still a thang?

Posted by: BignJames at December 04, 2018 11:34 AM (cxHbL)

215 "78 Wait. They've discovered waste, fraud and abuse in the government?!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (+y/Ru) "



Huh. They'll be discovering steam or agriculture next.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 04, 2018 11:34 AM (KVMek)

216 Italians know from prosciutto. Jamon is similar.

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:34 AM (bUjCl)

217 Gonna use this excuse next time the IRS audits me.

"Sorry, yeah... I've fucked up my checkbook and accounts and paperwork so badly, y'all are just gonna have to stop right here and walk away. My bad."

Posted by: red speck at December 04, 2018 11:34 AM (6Krd7)

218 Leaping Lucifer.

Do NOT follow link unless you have an insulin autoinjector directly at hand, uncapped, and ready to rock.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:24 AM (AzW6q)
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I should have put a warning with my link that if you have diabetes it will send you into a diabetic coma.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 04, 2018 11:34 AM (hECVl)

219 We have a tremendously expensive military.

? It doesn't cost us a dime. Keep it up.

Posted by: Europe at December 04, 2018 11:34 AM (C78No)

220 Best Christmas album I own is called "Yule be Swinging", its old 40's Swing versions of Christmas music... Louis Armstrong... folks like that.
Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (NgKpN)
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That's my favorite stuff, too. I listen to a playlist on Spotify called "Rat Pack Christmas" or something similiar and it's a great mix of religious and (old) popular Christmas songs.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:35 AM (U5tDi)

221 On November 15, Ernst & Young and other private firms that were hired to audit the Pentagon announced that they could not complete the job. Congress had ordered an independent audit of the Department of Defense, the government's largest discretionary cost center -- the Pentagon receives 54 cents out of every dollar in federal appropriations -- after the Pentagon failed for decades to audit itself. The firms concluded, however, that the DoD's financial records were riddled with so many bookkeeping deficiencies, irregularities, and errors that a reliable audit was simply impossible.

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It's like you guys didn't even watch Independence Day.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 04, 2018 11:35 AM (KUaJL)

222 ....Jamon is similar, but think it's a bit drier for some reason..

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:35 AM (bUjCl)

223
216 Italians know from prosciutto. Jamon is similar.
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Polenta is grits. Prosciutto is country ham. Nuff said.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:35 AM (2LelM)

224 and who is free of the Clinton Crime Family reach within the Party,.."

Hey, a free tour of DC area parks. Starting at Ft. Marcy...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 04, 2018 11:35 AM (6qErC)

225 200 I see a penis

Posted by: nurse ratched

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Oh, sorry! Forgot to put up tape over the camera.

My bad.


Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM



I just figured it was vasectomy day at the doc's office and she was texting between procedures.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:36 AM (0tfLf)

226 When it comes to building stuff, Texans don't fuck around.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (veoSD)
Well, except for I-35 between Dallas and Austin. I suspect there's way too much f*ing and not enough working on the road going on.
19 years I've been going up and down that road, and 19 years they've been working on it.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (37IEG)

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When the I-35 bridge collapsed in Minneapolis, it only took about a year to clear the old one out and build a new one.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:36 AM (+F0Wk)

227 'Member when Bush 43 wanted to audit them, and Frank's House Finance Committee just said "no?"
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It was also racist, if you'll recall.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 04, 2018 11:36 AM (p/vWZ)

228 >>The DNC primaries are shaping up as comedy gold. The problem, of course, is that it is all a mutual admiration society and there will be no significant bloodshed.

Did *anyone* ever actually criticize Hillary, the most vulnerable politician in generations? No
- - - -
In 2016 the DNC was beholden to Hillary because they were broke, and her chosen poodle DWS was happy to fix the primaries to ensure that the Clinton cash kept pumping into/through the DNC coffers.

The question is: in 2020 will the DNC rely on Clinton cash, thus requiring them to bow to Hillary?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2018 11:36 AM (W+vEI)

229 This talk of deli meats reminds me that the Nazis must have been anti-good sandwiches.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at December 04, 2018 11:36 AM (hLRSq)

230 Grits....I don't want to have stuff thrown at me , but... grits is feed, not food

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:37 AM (bUjCl)

231 201
But us micks are still allowed to eat pastrami, correct?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (c3AZU)



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Pastrami is for all people. Except the Hindus.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (AzW6q)
Good thing too. Damn good thing.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:37 AM (37IEG)

232 19 years I've been going up and down that road, and 19 years they've been working on it.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (37IEG)

The I-45 south from Houston (AKA the Gulf Fwy) has been under construction in some form or fashion for decades. It's a running joke down here.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at December 04, 2018 11:37 AM (MX7xj)

233 Well, except for I-35 between Dallas and Austin. I suspect there's way too much f*ing and not enough working on the road going on.
19 years I've been going up and down that road, and 19 years they've been working on it.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (37IEG)

And I45
GF now wife livesd in Galveston and I was in DFW. 45 always FDUP. Now live here S of Houston. 45 FD UP!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 04, 2018 11:37 AM (JFO2v)

234 German food is notorious.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 11:37 AM (t849v)

235 Well, except for I-35 between Dallas and Austin. I suspect there's way too much f*ing and not enough working on the road going on.
19 years I've been going up and down that road, and 19 years they've been working on it.
Posted by: DamnedYankee


75 From downtown Dallas to 635. Took over 20 years to widen it one lane on both sides. It was an embarrassment.
When they built the High 5 interchange from 75 to 635, they included stupid profitable incentives.
It came in 6 months early and under budget.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2018 11:37 AM (c3AZU)

236 >>It's like you guys didn't even watch Independence Day.



Heh! I was trying to remember which movie had a secret base and the military dude quips something like, "You don't really think we pay $800 for a hammer, do you?"

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2018 11:38 AM (W+vEI)

237 On November 15, Ernst Young and other private firms that were hired to audit the Pentagon announced that they could not complete the job.

Obama's military cuts did not just impact the uniformed personnel.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 04, 2018 11:38 AM (LL1Be)

238 That's a manager reserve. Sound business practice but not allowed in government. So it still exists, but is hidden. The government and military probably wouldn't function at all if people weren't breaking the rules all the time but this also opens up plenty of room for corruption.
Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (t849v)

Yeah, a lot of the spendathon comes from the way money is spent.

You go through the year, keeping a reserve for when something major breaks... then you hit the end of the year and suddenly have to spend that reserve, or you won't have it next year.

LOTS of time we'd be told we had no money to do something, until the last couple weeks of the fiscal year. You eventually got to the place where you PLANNED for it if you were smart.

I actually kept an 'end of year' wish list... ALL YEAR.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 11:38 AM (NgKpN)

239 Prosciutto is sublime.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (fuK7c)

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Hot tip: Wrap a chicken breast in prosciutto and fresh basil, put it in a bag, and pound it with a smooth rock until it's nice and thin, and then bake it. With a little goat cheese on top.

Don't say I never did nothin' for ya.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:38 AM (AzW6q)

240 You can imagine my surprise and pleasure when I found that the weights at the gym had all been marked "1", just for me...the President.

Posted by: Barky at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (HTHlp)

241 The question is: in 2020 will the DNC rely on Clinton cash, thus requiring them to bow to Hillary?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2018 11:36 AM (W+vEI)


The donations to the Clinton Foundation are way down, and Bill and Hill are not drawing crowds. It will be a good question if they can financially swing the stuff they did in 2016.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (hLRSq)

242 I love pastrami, and I hate to say this, but:

Prosciutto.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (AzW6q)
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Now you're talking my language, baby doll.

Posted by: bluebell
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Even better.. a good Serrano Ham if you can find it.. Prosciutto from Spain!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (so+oy)

243 You go through the year, keeping a reserve for when something major breaks... then you hit the end of the year and suddenly have to spend that reserve, or you won't have it next year.


Yes, the use or lose budgeting is stupid.

Posted by: no good deed at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (1uG1d)

244 230
Grits....I don't want to have stuff thrown at me , but... grits is feed, not food

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:37 AM (bUjCl)
Sacrilege! Grits are good, and good for you. Here, stir in some of this bacon fat.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (37IEG)

245 Number of generals or admirals who will lose rank or pensions because of fiscal mismanagement: Z E R O.

That's got to change.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (H7LIz)

246 Even better.. a good Serrano Ham if you can find it.

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+1. I have yet to try the Pata Negra. Someday.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (AzW6q)

247 One of my favorite novelty Christmas-ish songs is Rusty Chevrolet (and I'll fight the current here and admit I like Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer and I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas).

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (+F0Wk)

248 Sacrilege! Grits are good, and good for you. Here, stir in some of this bacon fat.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (37IEG)


that's disgusting

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (bUjCl)

249 Mandatory spending eats up the majority of the budget.
Posted by: no good deed at December 04, 2018 11:33 AM (1uG1d)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (bim/x)

250 229 This talk of deli meats reminds me that the Nazis must have been anti-good sandwiches.
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Not really. Corned or pickled meats is a northern European gift to the world. Most Jews in the US are German Jews. The first Jews were Sephardic from England nee' Spain and settled largely in the Mid Atlantic and South as they were not allowed into New England. Sephardic Jews are not known for the Deli Meats.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (2LelM)

251 242 I love pastrami, and I hate to say this, but:

Prosciutto.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (AzW6q)
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Now you're talking my language, baby doll.

Posted by: bluebell
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Even better.. a good Serrano Ham if you can find it.. Prosciutto from Spain!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (so+oy)

I had speck for the first time over the weekend, delicious!

Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (7HtZB)

252 I actually kept an 'end of year' wish list... ALL YEAR.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 11:38 AM



This.
You'd be crazy not to. AND...have the year-end requisitions ready to sign and date the moment they were called for. Funded half my G-2 computer network at I Corps this way.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (0tfLf)

253 Kiss my grits.

Posted by: Flo at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (jGvbj)

254
Hot tip: Wrap a chicken breast in prosciutto and
fresh basil, put it in a bag, and pound it with a smooth rock until
it's nice and thin, and then bake it. With a little goat cheese on top.



Don't say I never did nothin' for ya.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:38 AM (AzW6q)
A stoning rock?
Damn, I may stop on the way home and grab the ingrediments. How long and at what temperature is this baking thing you speak of.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (37IEG)

255 That's a manager reserve. Sound business practice but not allowed in government. So it still exists, but is hidden. The government and military probably wouldn't function at all if people weren't breaking the rules all the time but this also opens up plenty of room for corruption.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 11:31 AM (t849v)


This was explicitly allowed by the PA. My buddies job was to keep the safe and hand out money from it.

But really teeny-tiny potatoes, considering.

Consider that a single airplane can cost $1B.


Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (ZfRYq)

256 Sacrilege! Grits are good, and good for you. Here, stir in some of this bacon fat.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (37IEG)

....and sometimes some cheese.

Posted by: BignJames at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (cxHbL)

257 >>The donations to the Clinton Foundation are way down, and Bill and Hill are not drawing crowds. It will be a good question if they can financially swing the stuff they did in 2016.



Yep. I bet they were hoping their speaking tour would make up for some of the lost CGI revenue.

Obama is cutting into their business with his Obama Institute (or whatever it is), and if he replaces them as the DNC piggy bank then it will definitely be open season on Hillary in 2020.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (W+vEI)

258 >>It's like you guys didn't even watch Independence Day.



Heh! I was trying to remember which movie had a secret base and the military dude quips something like, "You don't really think we pay $800 for a hammer, do you?"

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2018 11:38 AM (W+vEI)


Read "Blind Man's Bluff" about the Navy secret stuff against the Soviets. They cost overran programs deliberately to hide the fun things they were doing - like modifying a sub so it had feet and could sit on the bottom, tapping Soviet underwater phone cables, and so on.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (hLRSq)

259 245 Number of generals or admirals who will lose rank or pensions because of fiscal mismanagement: Z E R O.

That's got to change.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (H7LIz)

But have one dick pic show up... and whammo!

Posted by: Air Force B-52 Squadron Commander at December 04, 2018 11:42 AM (NgKpN)

260 Stacy Abrams wants to run for POTUS? Good luck, lady...Kamala Harris will roast you on a spit..

Posted by: IC at December 04, 2018 11:42 AM (a0IVu)

261 248
Sacrilege! Grits are good, and good for you. Here, stir in some of this bacon fat.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (37IEG)





that's disgusting

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (bUjCl)
You think that's disgusting. Try boiling (and of course eating it) bacon.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:42 AM (37IEG)

262 Haven't heard 'The Christmas Shoes,' so to be the worst its going to have to have a more penetrating earworm than 'ba-rump-ba-bum-bum' in that frigging 'Little Drummer Boy' atrocity.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (oVJmc)

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It's not really ear-wormy, which is about the only thing it's got going for it. It is basically the sappiest, most crass attempt to play on the listener's emotions.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:18 AM (+F0Wk)


There's a great book, I Hate Myself and Want to Die: The 52 Most Depressing Songs You've Ever Heard, which puts "The Christmas Shoes" right up there in the category of awfulness.

https://tinyurl.com/y7g3c3zw

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 11:43 AM (kqsXK)

263 Geneva Conventions Amended to Include Ban on "The Christmas Shoes."

https://tinyurl.com/y9gcwuf9

(Link goes to Babylon Bee.)

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 10:59 AM (U5tDi)


Thank you! Now, with that infernal song banned from radio, I'll know I'll have a merry Christmas.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at December 04, 2018 11:43 AM (hbG7p)

264 131 I see a penis
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (d7Ww2)

I'm shocked no Morons have stepped up to the plate in your area and properly put you to bed. SMFH

Posted by: Palp Pilled at December 04, 2018 11:43 AM (rwVFm)

265 Try boiling (and of course eating it) bacon.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:42 AM (37IEG)
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Why would you do that?

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:43 AM (U5tDi)

266 Why the grits hate? It's just an incarnation of corn. Might as well grouse about whiskey.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 04, 2018 11:43 AM (HTHlp)

267 Bill and Hill are not drawing crowds.

We're trying to be respectful.

Posted by: Crowds of Vultures at December 04, 2018 11:43 AM (nIvDu)

268
When it comes to building stuff, Texans don't fuck around.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2018 11:28 AM (veoSD)
Well, except for I-35 between Dallas and Austin. I suspect there's way too much f*ing and not enough working on the road going on.
19 years I've been going up and down that road, and 19 years they've been working on it.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (37IEG)





I'm right on I-35 myself, they're widening it outside of Waxahachie right now. And I'm seeing real progress every week. The complex I-35/I-30 interchange in S Dallas went up relatively quickly as well.

Of course, I'm comparing it to CA projects like widening the 405 in Culver City where they've been working on it for over 20 years. Actually, I think they just quit working on it at one point and abandoned all the construction equipment in the median.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (veoSD)

269 Damn, I may stop on the way home and grab the ingrediments. How long and at what temperature is this baking thing you speak of.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (37IEG)

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About the usual - 375-400, 15-20mins for breasts, depending on size/ thickness. You can also mix the goat cheese with some panko crumbs beforehand for some crispness. And a little parsley.

If you don't do that, I'd just let the cheese sit at room temp, and spread some on the breasts after.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (AzW6q)

270 Thank you! Now, with that infernal song banned from radio, I'll know I'll have a merry Christmas.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at December 04, 2018 11:43 AM (hbG7p)
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Yay! You're here. You of all people I knew would appreciate this.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (U5tDi)

271 211 Tank Abrams is waiting on SOS runoff tonight. If Dem steals it, she runs for Senate in 2020 against Perdue

And with PDJT on the top of the ballot she'll lose by 15. Which would be fine by me.

Posted by: DocJ at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (NYS7S)

272 Read "Blind Man's Bluff" about the Navy secret stuff against the Soviets. They cost overran programs deliberately to hide the fun things they were doing - like modifying a sub so it had feet and could sit on the bottom, tapping Soviet underwater phone cables, and so on.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet



NSA Bob is going to be pissed!!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (0tfLf)

273 Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2018 11:40 AM (2LelM)


The joke was:

Nazi: Und ve burned down zat Jewish shop..."
Response: You monster! They had the best sandwiches!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (hLRSq)

274 What's being written about the DOD audit is almost entirely bullshit, but yeah, they have to do better. Also, The Nation is the unloved spawn of Pravda and The National Enquirer.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (2yngH)

275 Speaking of the military, new Civil War game trailer, War of Rights, looks great!

https://youtu.be/A84LcBNhXq8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (+y/Ru)

276 Read "Blind Man's Bluff" about the Navy secret stuff against the Soviets.

Is that the one that details the Glomar Explorer and what they really used it for?

Posted by: no good deed at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (1uG1d)

277 I wish people would hand ME 12 fully loaded magazines all day long without me having to go Infantry.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (bcbK8)

278 Read "Blind Man's Bluff" about the Navy secret stuff against the Soviets. They cost overran programs deliberately to hide the fun things they were doing - like modifying a sub so it had feet and could sit on the bottom, tapping Soviet underwater phone cables, and so on.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet


And it is a GREAT book

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 04, 2018 11:45 AM (bim/x)

279 262 Haven't heard 'The Christmas Shoes,' so to be the worst its going to have to have a more penetrating earworm than 'ba-rump-ba-bum-bum' in that frigging 'Little Drummer Boy' atrocity.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2018 11:13 AM (oVJmc)


'Christmas Shoes' is worse. I don't know how they managed to out-awful 'Little Drummer Boy', but they did.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at December 04, 2018 11:45 AM (hbG7p)

280 So since Star-Lord and Christmas music are being discussed, this is appropriate - Chris Pratt hosting the Disneyland Christmas show. And it's "celebrate the birth of Christ" Christmas, complete with Gospel readings. It's long, but nice to have on in the background & listen to. How Disney still allows this is beyond me, but enjoy.

https://tinyurl.com/ybex89hx

Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2018 11:45 AM (7HtZB)

281 Prosciutto di Parma. Do not accept any substitutes.

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2018 11:45 AM (bUjCl)

282 Grits with cheese, bacon, suauge, eggs, .... Hell any kind of beef or chicken is delicious.

Posted by: Palp Pilled at December 04, 2018 11:45 AM (rwVFm)

283 275 Speaking of the military, new Civil War game trailer, War of Rights, looks great!

https://youtu.be/A84LcBNhXq8
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (+y/Ru)

Oh, it's Civil War 1.0.

Yeah, looks very good, visually.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:45 AM (bcbK8)

284 252 I actually kept an 'end of year' wish list... ALL YEAR.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 11:38 AM


This.
You'd be crazy not to. AND...have the year-end requisitions ready to sign and date the moment they were called for. Funded half my G-2 computer network at I Corps this way.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (0tfLf)

Was funny just before going to Desert Storm, we were already going to deploy to the gulf anyway, right at the end of the fiscal year... doing the spend a thon.


And then they suddenly opened up the money spigot because of Storm... Replaced just about every weapon in the Armory, AND was able to score Outside sourced Body Armor for my entire Boarding Team (really cool vests with built in inflatable life preservers).


It was like Christmas.

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 11:45 AM (NgKpN)

285 Well hello there, Pixy!! What do you think of the song "Christmas Shoes?" Or if you're lucky, maybe it's never made it's way Down Under.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (U5tDi)

286 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybz_0JwuH58

Bind Man's Bluff

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (bim/x)

287
Why would you do that?

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:43 AM (U5tDi)


It comes out real crispy.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (TAmPV)

288 About the usual - 375-400, 15-20mins for breasts, depending on size/ thickness. You can also mix the goat cheese with some panko crumbs beforehand for some crispness. And a little parsley.

If you don't do that, I'd just let the cheese sit at room temp, and spread some on the breasts after.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM



We are talking about food, right???

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (0tfLf)

289 How about something to make you smile?

"I Wish I Was Back in the Army"

https://tinyurl.com/kyawp7b

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (kqsXK)

290 280 So since Star-Lord and Christmas music are being discussed, this is appropriate - Chris Pratt hosting the Disneyland Christmas show. And it's "celebrate the birth of Christ" Christmas, complete with Gospel readings. It's long, but nice to have on in the background & listen to. How Disney still allows this is beyond me, but enjoy.

https://tinyurl.com/ybex89hx
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2018 11:45 AM (7HtZB)

That's really cool.

Good on Disney and Chris Pratt. It takes courage, for man and mouse, to do that today.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (bcbK8)

291 288 About the usual - 375-400, 15-20mins for breasts, depending on size/ thickness. You can also mix the goat cheese with some panko crumbs beforehand for some crispness. And a little parsley.

If you don't do that, I'd just let the cheese sit at room temp, and spread some on the breasts after.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM


We are talking about food, right???
Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (0tfLf)

Well I'm not anymore...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:47 AM (bcbK8)

292 If you don't do that, I'd just let the cheese sit at room temp, and spread some on the breasts after.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

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*Look Honey, some dude on a forum I frequent said to try it. Really!*

Posted by: Tonypete at December 04, 2018 11:47 AM (SUd6i)

293 "I Wish I Was Back in the Army"

https://tinyurl.com/kyawp7b
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (kqsXK)
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We all watched that movie the night after Thanksgiving, as is our family tradition.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:48 AM (U5tDi)

294 This was explicitly allowed by the PA. My buddies job was to keep the safe and hand out money from it.

But really teeny-tiny potatoes, considering.

Consider that a single airplane can cost $1B.


Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (ZfRYq)

Interesting, I can personally affirm that MDAused to apply a 6% 'tax' on cost estimates to create a hidden reserve of funds to address whatever random shortfalls came up. Nowadays from what I've seen they use balancing lines as oppossed to prorating funds. I wonder why they don't simply have a formalized system throughout the government.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 11:48 AM (t849v)

295 Sandra Day O'Connor's secret revealed: she once turned down a marriage proposal from William Rehnquist:
https://tinyurl.com/y7wnrvq9
(Sandy's hair is just dreadful in the school pic.)

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2018 11:48 AM (DJFLF)

296 Posted by: no good deed at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (1uG1d)

Yep.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at December 04, 2018 11:48 AM (hLRSq)

297 Hot tip: Wrap a chicken breast in prosciutto and fresh basil, put it in a bag, and pound it with a smooth rock until it's nice and thin, and then bake it. With a little goat cheese on top.

Don't say I never did nothin' for ya.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


We have a Brazilian steak house that we go to. The salad bar has prosciutto and cheese on it.

To have found that 30 years ago when I could still eat "hearty".

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2018 11:48 AM (c3AZU)

298 breasts, depending on size/ thickness

Both, please.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at December 04, 2018 11:48 AM (vtcmf)

299 About the usual - 375-400, 15-20mins for breasts, depending on size/ thickness. You can also mix the goat cheese with some panko crumbs beforehand for some crispness. And a little parsley.

If you don't do that, I'd just let the cheese sit at room temp, and spread some on the breasts after.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM


We are talking about food, right???
Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (0tfLf)

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I imagined some 'ette making this recipe, and thinking, "OK, I'm a C cup, so that's how long?"

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:49 AM (+F0Wk)

300
I'm right on I-35 myself, they're widening it
outside of Waxahachie right now. And I'm seeing real progress every
week. The complex I-35/I-30 interchange in S Dallas went up relatively
quickly as well.



Of course, I'm comparing it to CA projects like widening the 405 in
Culver City where they've been working on it for over 20 years.
Actually, I think they just quit working on it at one point and
abandoned all the construction equipment in the median.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (veoSD)
That stretch isn't bad but for some reason it always gets really stupid just south of Waco around Lorena. Another place I-35 is stupid is just north of Corinth up around Denton. By stupid, I mean things slow down for no apparent reason other than people being stupid.
There as a nice tidy little farm for the longest time just south of West (if you aren't from here, you won't understand that...) and then they widened the road and it vanished. Pity, nice clean well kept brick 1 story, surrounded by fully grown live oaks. I miss that little house.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:49 AM (37IEG)

301 Posted by: pep at December 04, 2018 11:32 AM (wW03z)

Not reading the article simply because it is The Nation is silly.

I read leftist stuff all of the time, and sometimes I actually learn something, and often I see how the Lunatic left is thinking.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2018 11:49 AM (A3700)

302 [LGBT Site Writer Calls Ariana Grande's New Video 'Anti-Queer,' Removes Byline After 'Death Threats'

... I'm impressed that this 'donut licker' could do anything that would invoke death threats]

Spotify keeps "recommending" Ariana Grande and Drake to me. My playlists are 95% alterna-metal and J/KPop. Why does Spotify think I'm into trash-people music?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 04, 2018 11:50 AM (O7MnT)

303 I've been to Disneyland several times over the Christmas holidays and they always had a very moving Christ-based show in the main square. The last one I attended was years ago and they had Craig T. Nelson do a variety of Bible reading. It was fantastic.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:50 AM (0tfLf)

304 289 How about something to make you smile?

"I Wish I Was Back in the Army"

https://tinyurl.com/kyawp7b
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (kqsXK)


Love that so much. Poor Vera Ellen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2018 11:51 AM (L1Zsl)

305 299
About the usual - 375-400, 15-20mins for breasts, depending on size/
thickness. You can also mix the goat cheese with some panko crumbs
beforehand for some crispness. And a little parsley.



If you don't do that, I'd just let the cheese sit at room temp, and spread some on the breasts after.



Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM





We are talking about food, right???

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:46 AM (0tfLf)



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I imagined some 'ette making this recipe, and thinking, "OK, I'm a C cup, so that's how long?"

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:49 AM (+F0Wk)
?
I can pretty much guarantee the wife is going to vehemently protest the whole smashing with a rock thing, though I understand that's pretty much standard for the yearly breast exam.
The goat cheese is going to be right out.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:51 AM (37IEG)

306 Why do they call them chicken "breasts"? Birds don't have breasts, they're not mammals.

Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2018 11:52 AM (7HtZB)

307 Not reading the article simply because it is The Nation is silly.

I read leftist stuff all of the time, and sometimes I actually learn something, and often I see how the Lunatic left is thinking.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2018 11:49 AM (A3700)

The Nation also (used to be, not sure if still true) had the articulate marxists. You could have a civil conversation with them and they would only occasionally call for your death.

I'm being snarky but they used to have skilled writers, albeit it often in service of evil.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:52 AM (bcbK8)

308 306 Why do they call them chicken "breasts"? Birds don't have breasts, they're not mammals.
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2018 11:52 AM (7HtZB)

Well 'breast' means chest, right? Boobs are mammary glands. Chickens don't have those, but they do have chest.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:53 AM (bcbK8)

309 I read leftist stuff all of the time, and sometimes I actually learn something, and often I see how the Lunatic left is thinking.


As do I, but time is limited, and therefore when I know a source is utterly unreliable, and other, better sources are probably available, I make a decision as to how to invest my time and effort.

Posted by: pep at December 04, 2018 11:53 AM (wW03z)

310 I can pretty much guarantee the wife is going to vehemently protest the whole smashing with a rock thing, though I understand that's pretty much standard for the yearly breast exam.
The goat cheese is going to be right out.


Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:51 AM



Soooo.....no fondue then either?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:53 AM (0tfLf)

311 Geneva Conventions Amended to Include Ban on "The Christmas Shoes."

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 10:55 AM


Back in the day at lfg I used to post a link to that YouTube song every Christmas just to hear (then) MamaWinger cry.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 04, 2018 11:54 AM (e7O7B)

312 100?

International Bank upset that techs such as Amazon have more personal information on customers than they do.

War.

Yeah, war for preeminent ownership of the peasants.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc87q4w2

Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2018 11:55 AM (g7gOM)

313 >> [LGBT Site Writer Calls Ariana Grande's New Video 'Anti-Queer,' Removes Byline After 'Death Threats'

Spotify keeps "recommending" Ariana Grande and Drake to me. My playlists are 95% alterna-metal and J/KPop. Why does Spotify think I'm into trash-people music?
- - - -


Ace's thread on social media was spot-on.
That reviewer is a click-baity a$$hole, and the death threats in response are all-too-common social media hair-trigger outrage. Match made in Hell!!


Also, I bet Spotify is being paid to recommend Arianna Grande and Drake to you. Stealth advertising.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (W+vEI)

314 Why do they call them chicken "breasts"? Birds don't have breasts, they're not mammals.
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2018 11:52 AM (7HtZB)

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RESOLVED: Chicken breasts shall be known henceforward as "wishbone steaks."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (AzW6q)

315 There's a great book, I Hate Myself and Want to Die: The 52 Most Depressing Songs You've Ever Heard, which puts "The Christmas Shoes" right up there in the category of awfulness.
https://tinyurl.com/y7g3c3zw

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 11:43 AM (kqsXK)


GAAAAK! I just read through the Table of Contents. It's like reaching the singularity of awfulness.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (hbG7p)

316 "The Christmas Shoes."


I love songs about choos.

Posted by: Little Lupe at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (vtcmf)

317 I can pretty much guarantee the wife is going to vehemently protest the whole smashing with a rock thing, though I understand that's pretty much standard for the yearly breast exam.
The goat cheese is going to be right out.


Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:51 AM


Soooo.....no fondue then either?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 11:53 AM (0tfLf)

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Best to stick with pudding

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (+F0Wk)

318 Sacrilege! Grits are good, and good for you. Here, stir in some of this bacon fat.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:39 AM (37IEG)

....and sometimes some cheese.

Posted by: BignJames at December 04, 2018 11:41 AM (cxHbL)

could go with milk and sugar...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (8D42x)

319 275
Speaking of the military, new Civil War game trailer, War of Rights, looks great!



https://youtu.be/A84LcBNhXq8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 04, 2018 11:44 AM (+y/Ru)
Yeee haw!
Fire by file,
commence,
firing!
And aside from really getting hit, that's pretty much what it really looks like. Damn they done good.
Ya don't 'see' much standing in a 2 rank line, just saying.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at December 04, 2018 11:57 AM (37IEG)

320 Sandra Day O'Connor's secret revealed: she once turned down a marriage proposal from William Rehnquist:
https://tinyurl.com/y7wnrvq9
(Sandy's hair is just dreadful in the school pic.)
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2018 11:48 AM (DJFLF)

The article says that after she turned down his proposal, they remained 'study buddies."

They call that something else these days....

Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2018 11:57 AM (NFEMn)

321 By the way, it may seem like I am critical of the shit-ton of money we spend in the military. What I am really saying is that an audit is pretty much destined to failure. There are no GAPP rules for urban warfare, for example.

Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 11:57 AM (ZfRYq)

322 Back in the day at lfg I used to post a link to that YouTube song every Christmas just to hear (then) MamaWinger cry.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 04, 2018 11:54 AM (e7O7B


There's no reason why you can't continue that fine old tradition here on this blog.

Just saying.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at December 04, 2018 11:58 AM (hbG7p)

323 I'm debating eating peanutbutter and jam sandwiches for lunch or paying too much for really, really good Italian food at Tulio...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:58 AM (bcbK8)

324 "The Christmas Shoes."


I love songs about choos.
Posted by: Little Lupe at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (vtcmf)

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Select is when you pick something, choose are what you wear on your feet

--- Just the punchline

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 11:59 AM (+F0Wk)

325 could go with milk and sugar...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (8D42x)

what!?

Posted by: BignJames at December 04, 2018 11:59 AM (cxHbL)

326 Sandra Day O'Connor's secret revealed: she once turned down a marriage proposal from William Rehnquist:

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Bill should have tried the John Riggins approach...

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:59 AM (AzW6q)

327 >>The article says that after she turned down his proposal, they remained 'study buddies."




Wait --- she didn't then accuse him of sexual harassment? Opportunity missed!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2018 11:59 AM (W+vEI)

328 321
By the way, it may seem like I am critical of the shit-ton of money we
spend in the military. What I am really saying is that an audit is
pretty much destined to failure. There are no GAPP rules for urban
warfare, for example.





Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 11:57 AM (ZfRYq)

I don't believe any financial accounting within the federal government - across all of it - complies with GAAP.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 04, 2018 11:59 AM (jxbfJ)

329 Ernst & Young? There's your problem--two people are not enough.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (Ndje9)

330 could go with milk and sugar...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (8D42x)

what!?

Posted by: BignJames at December 04, 2018 11:59 AM (cxHbL)

for the grits. makes them palatable...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (8D42x)

331 OK just watched the Kareem Hunt vid. Honestly I don't GAS what happens to any of those portrayed in the vid. He did violently push the one girl who bounced off a wall before she fell to the floor. Then he had to get in a goodbye kick.
What is troubling is that his friends were holding him back, what would he have done if they were not there?

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (DJFLF)

332 We all watched that movie the night after Thanksgiving, as is our family tradition.


Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 11:48 AM (U5tDi)


I adore White Christmas. I always wanted to be Danny Kaye, because Der Bingle was just too smooth and cool for me to ever reach.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (kqsXK)

333 I'm more into Bind Men Buff.

Posted by: Shep Smith at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (+y/Ru)

334 Back in the day at lfg I used to post a link to that YouTube song every Christmas just to hear (then) MamaWinger cry.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 04, 2018 11:54 AM (e7O7B

There's no reason why you can't continue that fine old tradition here on this blog.

Just saying.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at December 04, 2018 11:58 AM (hbG7p)

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Grammie's a pirate now. There might be some running through and whatnot...

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (+F0Wk)

335
First time I ever saw unions in action (oxymoron, I know) was a stretch of highway locally that took almost ten years. Union districts are very similar to school districts in that they do not conform to any known geographical or cultural/financial/governmental boundaries. There was a stretch that took over 5 years where every single mile was posted with a road-type sign for which union had 'control' over that stretch. I'm old, but that one tried my patience and prim Midwestern vocabulary to the max.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (MIKMs)

336 Here's a heads up. I've been taking Bromelain and turmeric for joint pain for about 6 weeks, and it really works. However, do not increase the dosage (2 500mg twice daily each). You will be ready for the colonoscopy.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (xzqr4)

337 Why not just throw away the grits and make an omelet?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (hLRSq)

338 Uh-oh, tumblr gonna ban adult content...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybanlcqk

Posted by: davidt at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (jGvbj)

339 Barry and Lavon know how to use $240 worth of pudding...
https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=EcaYfIxMfyk&t=2s

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (bcbK8)

340 Bill should have tried the John Riggins approach...

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 11:59 AM (AzW6q)

I know not what you speaketh.

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (DJFLF)

341 306 Why do they call them chicken "breasts"? Birds don't have breasts, they're not mammals.

that sounds nipplist.

Posted by: Anachronda at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (xGZ+b)

342 338 Uh-oh, tumblr gonna ban adult content...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybanlcqk

Posted by: davidt at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (jGvbj)

well then what is the point of tumblr???

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (bcbK8)

343 Also, I bet Spotify is being paid to recommend Arianna Grande and Drake to you. Stealth advertising.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2018 11:56 AM (W+vEI)

That and they just use algorithms. If you listen to someone, they'll recommend artists that other people who listen to that artist also listen to.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (NFEMn)

344 could go with milk and sugar...


And butter. That's breakfast grits. I used to eat that instead of oatmeal.

Posted by: no good deed at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (1uG1d)

345 Check this out gang!

https://www.facebook.com/calebandkelseyofficial/
videos/737500183295522/

Cohen's Hallelujah set to Christmas lyrics. Beautiful!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (0tfLf)

346 There's no reason why you can't continue that fine old tradition here on this blog.

Just saying.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at December 04, 2018 11:58 AM


Agreed. I'll have to rick-roll her. Pretty sure I can figure out some topic that'll get her.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (e7O7B)

347 @339 Aww, yeah!

Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (ZfRYq)

348 Uh-oh, tumblr gonna ban adult content...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybanlcqk

Posted by: davidt at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (jGvbj)

well then what is the point of tumblr???
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (bcbK

There goes "Perfect Tit Drops."

Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2018 12:02 PM (NFEMn)

349 Boobs are mammary glands.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 11:53 AM


To be precise, boobs (aka mammiform protuberances) are biological support structures for mammary glands.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 04, 2018 12:02 PM (ctuyM)

350 Back in the day at lfg I used to post a link to that YouTube song every Christmas just to hear (then) MamaWinger cry.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 04, 2018 11:54 AM (e7O7B

There's no reason why you can't continue that fine old tradition here on this blog.

Just saying.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at December 04, 2018 11:58 AM (hbG7p)

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Grammie's a pirate now. There might be some running through and whatnot...
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (+F0Wk)
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NONONONONONO!!! We don't want to send her back to the hospital with a permanent twitch.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 12:02 PM (U5tDi)

351 Why not just throw away the grits and make an omelet?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Black Friday Deals on Orange Man Bad Whines at the Outrage Outlet! at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (hLRSq)

Fine, fine...

Shrimp, sausage, and some cheese.

there, is that better?

:p

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 12:02 PM (8D42x)

352 for the grits. makes them palatable...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (8D42x)

maybe you should stick w/cream of wheat...or oatmeal.

Posted by: BignJames at December 04, 2018 12:02 PM (cxHbL)

353 I adore White Christmas. I always wanted to be Danny Kaye, because Der Bingle was just too smooth and cool for me to ever reach.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (kqsXK)

I prefer Holiday Inn, blackface and all.

Bing Crosby was the coolest cat alive, once.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 12:02 PM (bcbK8)

354 264 131 I see a penis
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2018 11:20 AM (d7Ww2)

I'm shocked no Morons have stepped up to the plate in your area and properly put you to bed. SMFH
Posted by: Palp Pilled

i've even mentioned my penchant for spankings

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (d7Ww2)

355 Time to lick the grits.

Posted by: Arianna Grandiose at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (vtcmf)

356 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3P_uNXGPwk

Progressive Christmas songs... just saw this on the U Tube... funny

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (NgKpN)

357 I'm more into Bind Men Buff.
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (+y/Ru)

Blonde Man Boff?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (NFEMn)

358 Social security and welfare make up 70 percent of federal spending, and the Pentagon gets 54 percent, that equals 124 percent. I am starting to see where the accounting problem is.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (47yoT)

359 Not reading the article simply because it is The Nation is silly."

Yes it is. It's a silly publication, filled with not serious people.

Let's see - when will HHS face the same scrutiny? DOJ? DOT? State?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (6qErC)

360 John Riggins, gentleman and scholar:

https://tinyurl.com/y85dvbz5

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (AzW6q)

361 Diogenes...please to not blow margins.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2018 12:04 PM (A3700)

362
Nice mammalia.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2018 12:04 PM (CIMpD)

363 Uh-oh, tumblr gonna ban adult content...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybanlcqk

Posted by: davidt at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (jGvbj)

well then what is the point of tumblr???

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (bcbK

Dick's sporting goods: no one can kill their customer base and business model like us.

Tumblr: hold my beer...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 12:04 PM (8D42x)

364 I adore White Christmas. I always wanted to be Danny Kaye, because Der Bingle was just too smooth and cool for me to ever reach.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 12:00 PM (kqsXK)
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I could never be most of the people in that movie because the only thing worse than my dancing is my singing.

I would settle happily for being an extra in one of those beautiful dresses that just sits there and enjoys the show.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 12:04 PM (U5tDi)

365

Mamalia is a word, yes?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 04, 2018 12:05 PM (CIMpD)

366 I've done sub contract work for defense contractors. The amount of waste and fraud is crazy. It was great for me as a contractor, getting paid insane good money to do basically nothing. But the tax payer part of me hated it.

And this shit will never stop, regardless who is in the white house or controls congress.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at December 04, 2018 12:05 PM (beTd0)

367 347 @339 Aww, yeah!
Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 12:01 PM (ZfRYq)

Aww, yeah

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 12:05 PM (bcbK8)

368 Did get a look on the mammiform protuberances on that broad?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 04, 2018 12:05 PM (1ISKN)

369 precontent/comment rant:

Maybe it's a BS Nation article ignoring deliberate hiding of necessary classified spending.

now to read.

Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2018 12:05 PM (FhXTo)

370
Hey Grannie -- Did you see what the Pope had to say about Lutherans and Methodists. Language warning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpkI7GW2V34

/ something like that oughta get the job done.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 04, 2018 12:06 PM (e7O7B)

371 the Pentagon receives 54 cents out of every dollar in federal appropriations
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I always thought appropriated meant IOU.

Allocated meant the money was in your pocket.

Posted by: dDan at December 04, 2018 12:06 PM (hwYmz)

372 321 By the way, it may seem like I am critical of the shit-ton of money we spend in the military. What I am really saying is that an audit is pretty much destined to failure. There are no GAPP rules for urban warfare, for example.

Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 11:57 AM (ZfRYq)

Contrary to popular belief accounting isn't about hyperprecision. Within about 10% is acceptable. However the government uses cash accounting which isn't compatible with GAAP and good accounting in general requires a nice hierarchical information system. However I think access to any such system would give a pretty good picture of the state of the entire military(which might be considered some sort of risk). Simply tracking inputs(how many bullets we're shipping) and estimated outputs goes a long way. Checking for shrinkage can be done when feasible.

I bet mercenary companies track their revenues and expenses just fine.

Posted by: Someguy at December 04, 2018 12:06 PM (t849v)

373 nood coeds behaving badly...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 12:06 PM (8D42x)

374 358 Social security and welfare make up 70 percent of federal spending, and the Pentagon gets 54 percent, that equals 124 percent. I am starting to see where the accounting problem is.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (47yoT)

Obama Math...

Posted by: Don Q at December 04, 2018 12:07 PM (NgKpN)

375 Social security and welfare make up 70 percent of federal spending, and the Pentagon gets 54 percent, that equals 124 percent. I am starting to see where the accounting problem is.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (47yoT)


They say 54% of "discretionary" spending.

Social Security and that stuff is mandatory.

Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2018 12:07 PM (ZfRYq)

376 373 nood coeds behaving badly...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 04, 2018 12:06 PM (8D42x)

Oooh!

Pleasebehot,Pleasebehot

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 04, 2018 12:07 PM (bcbK8)

377 Stacy Abrams wants to run for POTUS? Good luck, lady...Kamala Harris will roast you on a spit..

That would be a fire that would be hard to keep under control...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 04, 2018 12:07 PM (p6e8W)

378 / something like that oughta get the job done.
Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at December 04, 2018 12:06 PM (e7O7B)
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You're treading on thin ice there, buster.

Posted by: bluebell at December 04, 2018 12:07 PM (U5tDi)

379 That would be a fire that would be hard to keep under control...
Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 04, 2018 12:07 PM (p6e8W)

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Keep a slurry bomber standing by, for safety's sake.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 12:08 PM (AzW6q)

380 And that doesn't count the innate inefficiencies in the procurement and bidding process for DoD contractors.

Requirements are either outdated or incorrect or use older processess/materials that are either no longer manufactured, manufactured only on a as requested basis which is expensive and time consuming or fail to incorporate newer materials that are cheaper and/or stronger/better.

And if a contractor wishes to change any of the requirements it's a time consuming process that they don't get paid for (depending on the item and the contract) so they continue to used materials that are more expensive to use or that take more involved processes to make use of than newer materials.

Add on top of that penalties for time/cost failures, being required to conform to certain requirements solely useful for larger companies by smaller more efficient companies.

And they have a requirement and specification for everything down to the font used for labels on the packaging.

And ppl wonder why a hammer costs 900 or why replacements can't be made for some things. yeah that's another price raiser there.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 04, 2018 12:08 PM (wd9fW)

381 My bad...not sure what I did there...

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2018 12:08 PM (0tfLf)

382 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (AzW6q)


My favorite part is when he conked out on the floor during HW's speech.

Great story, from teh olden days when NFL players were fun.

Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2018 12:08 PM (DJFLF)

383 i've even mentioned my penchant for spankings

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2018 12:03 PM (d7Ww2)


Are you sure you're not Daphne Merkin?

https://tinyurl.com/y7x9sf2u

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2018 12:11 PM (kqsXK)

384 is that the auditors couldn't finish because the Pentagon is so fucked up.



That is unacceptable.
bad but less important than not crashing boats or actually beating a bunch of stone age hillbillies

Did anyone really expect a Govt. IT system being audited by a big Acctg. firm to pass?

Is there fraud - yes.
Could DOD do better - yes.
Is it going to end the country like * - no.

* the laundry list we scream about daily.

Posted by: DaveA at December 04, 2018 12:15 PM (FhXTo)

385 "[...] the Pentagon receives 54 cents out of every dollar in federal appropriations [...]"

As approximately 70% of federal spending is 'mandatory' - controlled either by legislative committees or, like Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid, is on auto-pilot and does not need to be appropriated every year - that '54 cents' is out of the remaining ±30%.

From the cheap seats it comes across as a bit odd that protecting the country is considered 'discretionary' while funding layabouts is considered 'mandatory'.

Posted by: aelfheld at December 04, 2018 12:16 PM (IxDhF)

386 One thing I have noticed from the George H.W. Bush passing. I am spotting all the "Cucks" that work around me. I will follow the "if you can't say anything nice, don't anything at all" rule.

Posted by: Paladin at December 04, 2018 12:16 PM (Bt5bV)

387 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing:

interesting. I did really like "The Story of O."

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2018 12:17 PM (d7Ww2)

388
I see a penis

Posted by: nurse ratched
________________

*~picks up phone, calls funny farm~*

Posted by: Bob from NSA at December 04, 2018 12:21 PM (GEhPL)

389 Bob,

I know who YOU are.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2018 12:24 PM (d7Ww2)

390
"I am deeply suspicious of the Government and their willful ignorance of basic accounting methods"

FIFY. You're welcome. And yes, FedGov, StateGov, CountyGov and LocalGov should held to the same standards of accounting as publicly held corporations.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 04, 2018 12:46 PM (1hM1d)

391 Go to the people in accounting, ask for the paperwork audit trail and anyone who can't produce it gets discharged along with their superiors. It's that simply.

Posted by: Zombie Jewish Billy Preston at December 04, 2018 12:55 PM (hSQF+)

392 Damn!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at December 04, 2018 12:55 PM (hSQF+)

393 Of all the coverage of this story you cited "The Nation"?

Posted by: timactual at December 04, 2018 01:03 PM (pPXFf)

394 The simple solution is to make the pensions of the DOJ retirees (including the FBI) come from the unaccounted for DOD money. Find the money, get a pension. Don't, don't.

Posted by: Rather Not at December 04, 2018 01:33 PM (oPogG)

395 This is much ado about nothing. Facts:
1. The military services don't do accounting. DFAS=Defense Finance and Accounting Service does the accounting for the services. The services use the systems DFAS mandates and operates. The services are powerless to change anything or to use or develop systems that would keep better track of expenditures/inventories.

2. Congress passes the budget in mind numbing detail. This includes Congress deciding on how much money DFAS is going to have to do the accounting and how much money DFAS is going to have to fix faulty computer accounting systems or introduce newer, better accounting systems that meet "generally accepted accounting practice" and also how many people DFAS and the services are going to have that do financial management/accounting. Since the purpose of the military is to fight and win wars, if you had to array all the problems military leaders focus on, in priority sequence, fixing the accounting is the last item on the list behind ships, aircraft, personnel, bombs, operations, training, etc. etc.

4. DOD as an enterprise dwarfs anything else on the planet. DOD has more people, more equipment, more complexity, more moving parts, more consummables (think food, fuel, ammo) more repair parts, more movement of assets all around the world than all of the biggest companies in the world combined. Just in facilities (buildings) DOD has over 561,000 and 4800 bases all over the world. The human mind can barely comprehend how large and complex an organism DOD is.

5. DOD has never gotten a clean audit and never will get a clean audit unless Congress ponies up the money to make that happen.


I know whereof I speak....been there, done that for the US Navy as a professional (active, reserve and civilian) beancounter for 38 years.

Posted by: Brent Ramsey at December 04, 2018 03:27 PM (6aMXv)

396 Funniest thing about all this? I work for the DoD and the Deputy SecDef sent a DoD wide email talking about this, embracing findings and what not. Midway through he said "no corruption was found."

$2 TRILLION DOLLAR BUDGET

Thousands of contractors

No corruption.

That audit was BS.

Posted by: Aivanther at December 04, 2018 07:54 PM (WNAwi)

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