Saturday Gardening Thread before Thanksgiving [KT]

Happy Saturday, Gardeners and Friends of Gardeners! Are you going Over the River and Through the Woods this Thanksgiving, or staying home? Either way, I hope you have some time to enjoy some plants, or at least some places where plants grow when it's not too cold, hot, etc. Or maybe you can stay indoors and dream of next year. My Pinetree catalog came. Peppers on the cover this year. One is striped. Have you received any gardening catalogs yet?

Thinking of ways to use some of that garden produce for Thanksgiving dinner? Got some time off to observe nature a little?

The Horde and Friends Observe Nature, Gardens, etc.

RS sent in the following not long ago:

Greetings from a "Mostly Lurker, Rare Commenter,"

Not sure if what's attached falls in the "Gardening" wheelhouse, but a couple of weeks ago, my spouse and I spent a weekend hiking "Prairie State Park" in western Missouri. It preserves some of the last tallgrass prairie east of Kansas and is a delight.

Flower I.D., anyone?

Bison and elk roam freely and it's a preserve for prairie chickens, whitetail deer and other fauna. There's enough trail mileage to spend a long weekend with either a nice conventional campground or backpacker options.

Anyway, the flora is starting to die back, but there are still remnants of summer.

Care to I.D. this one?

Photos attached, including a panorama from a high point in the park.

Thanks for sending these photos and the details about this place, which I did not know existed.

Cumberland Astro checked in recently:

My garden is played out for the year - all I have left to do is cover
the strawberries in pine needles after we have our first significant freeze. Although there is nothing to show from the garden, nature is putting on a pretty good show in the woods just beyond the garden.

I've also attached a few pictures taken while walking around my mountaintop neighborhood outside of Chattanooga.

Thanks for sending these in. Lovely.

The Edible Garden

Here's a surprise from The Invisible Hand. Didn't think he was the farmer type.

Fall in San Clemente. Apples, Lemons and a lonely Avocado. And a table of fruit we're happy to share.

Not many apple varieties will grow in San Clemente. Not a lot of winter chill in San Clemente.

Meyer lemon?

New tree? Do you know which kind? Any of your neighbors have an avocado?

I see some other plants on that table, too . . .

We have some fans of fermenting garden produce in The Horde. There is now a study out suggesting that pickled foods may reduce anxiety.

Hillmire and his colleagues enlisted 710 college students at William & Mary to record how much fermented food they ate and any symptoms of neuroticism, anxiety or social phobia that they felt over the same period. The team found a link between the amount of fermented food subjects consumed and the level of social anxiety they felt. Particularly neurotic subjects saw a decrease in their symptoms of shyness and fear of social situations when they ate more fermented food.

Well. That's interesting. Kind of unsettling to think that your social confidence might be highly influenced by bacteria in your gut.

Because Thanksgiving is coming, here are "three ways to fall in love with fermented cranberries": Cranberry-orange relish, Raw carnberry-apple chutney and Pickled Cranberries. Not as sweet as most cranberrie recipes we're familiar with.

Pickled Cranberries before and after fermenting

There is quite a lot of information about cranberries, plus a video, before you get to the recipes, so keep scrolling.

We have discussed growing cranberries at home before. Not for everyone. There are also some cranberry substituted like Roselle and Natal Plum that can be grown in certain climates.

Here's a recipe for Hot Pink Onion Relish. Pretty.

Weigh the onions and measure the salt correctly. We don't want anyone getting botulism. If it doesn't bubble, toss it.

Let us know if you cooked up any of your garden produce on Thanksgiving. Maybe you could send us a recipe for next year if it turned out well.

If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at g mail dot com

Include your nic unless you just want to be a lurker.

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1 Frost! I mean First!

That top pic is so beautiful. Do you have a link to larger version?

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:02 PM (786Ro)

2 Meyer lemon?

Admire her lemons? Why yes, yes I do. But I never touched 'em, swear.

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:03 PM (786Ro)

3 I told the others. Where are the corgis?

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:04 PM (786Ro)

4 Might as well go for broke on comments

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:05 PM (786Ro)

5 th!

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:05 PM (786Ro)

6 Can I monopolize the first 10 comments?

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:05 PM (786Ro)

7 All the leaves are brown...

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:05 PM (786Ro)

8 Fermented cranberries? Can you drink the juice? *hic*
-- Hillary

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:06 PM (786Ro)

9 Ninth

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:06 PM (786Ro)

10 All ten. I'm exhausted.

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:07 PM (786Ro)

11 I'm impressed

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 17, 2018 01:07 PM (CDGwz)

12 Strikes me as odd that there would be snow before the leaves had fallen. Shore is purty though.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 17, 2018 01:08 PM (xSo9G)

13 Good afternoon greenthumbs and snowmen
Was surveying leaf situation and am guessing there are only 1/4 left on the trees. Started new compost but thats it as leaves are under snow as much as on top of snow. Don't see any more prediction so eventually it will melt and can get back to collecting.

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2018 01:09 PM (6VrXf)

14 Gotta go do my final mow. We've had a couple of mornings of frost.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 17, 2018 01:09 PM (xSo9G)

15 C'mon Hands....get busy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 17, 2018 01:11 PM (xSo9G)

16 Wet snow with leaves on trees is a disaster, the tree catches much more weight and branches snap like twigs.

Also my pepper plant I dug up and put inside didn't make it, should have done it a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2018 01:13 PM (6VrXf)

17 I even went back to previous thread and called nood. Still no one showed up. It was quiet and roomy, like being in an empty theater.

Posted by: Hands at November 17, 2018 01:13 PM (786Ro)

18 My GF makes kimchi, but she hasn't made any for a while. Her father makes it but he doesn't share. Oddly, they don't like to make it with Napa cabbage, and prefer to make it out of standard cabbage.

I make sauerkraut in quart jars and add in garlic and red pepper, which makes a much spicier 'kraut.

Does sourdough bread count as "fermented foods"?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2018 01:15 PM (mUa7G)

19 My guesses:

First mystery flower looks like what we call 'wild sunflower' -- it's short, about 2-3 feet tall and multi-flowered. Unsure of exact botanical name.

Second one looks like a monarda variety.

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2018 01:18 PM (zMzA6)

20 The lovely Mrs Colfax Mingo puts some of our sweet potatoes in a yummy pie for Thanksgiving. Main course will be leg of lamb. Snow on the ground, birds at the feeders, and dogs dreaming dog dreams. Stay safe in the land of wildfires, mudslides, earthquakes, and poop on the sidewalks.

Posted by: colfax mingo at November 17, 2018 01:18 PM (tCvhJ)

21 Hands at November 17, 2018 01:02 PM
I think the top photo is great, too. It came from a niece. I'll see if I can get her to provide some information that might lead to a larger version.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 01:19 PM (BVQ+1)

22 I plowed up my garden for winter for the first time. I figured it was dry enough still and I promised to help winterize the tractor so why not? The ground was just right for tilling. It made a wonderfully light till. I will have to till again in the Spring, and that will wind up looking like I was making bricks with the wet heavy clay, but right now it looks ready to plant.

I seeded with feed oats to try to get some winter cover to avoid compaction from the rain, but no rain yet.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2018 01:19 PM (mUa7G)

23 The top flower is some variety of Sunflower.

Posted by: Smoked Surfperch at November 17, 2018 01:20 PM (OUaW7)

24 Skip-- did you throw out that pepper plant already?

I moved one indoors last year (it was already growing in a pot, however)and all the leaves fell off, but it recovered and even bloomed! I didn't do very well with artificial pollination, tho. Only got 2 peppers last winter.

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2018 01:20 PM (zMzA6)

25 Skip at November 17, 2018 01:13 PM
Sorry about your pepper plant. And you're right. Trees are not meant to have to deal with snow on their leaves.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 01:21 PM (BVQ+1)

26 Kindltot at November 17, 2018 01:15 PM
Napa cabbage is sometimes called Korean cabbage, but it is not closely related to regular cabbage. It is thought to be a cross between turnips and bok choi.

Sourdough is indeed fermented. If the anti-anxiety effects are due to bacteria, though, the bacteria in sourdough bread are killed during baking.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 01:26 PM (BVQ+1)

27 Pretty fall pictures.
Most of the snow here has melted. The remaining leaves are a wet mess and can wait. Received a call that the guy that is going to grind the stumps out at my lake cottage is there, so I'll have that mess to clean up next week.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 17, 2018 01:27 PM (Rz2Nc)

28 Didn't toss it out but even a day after it was wilting from cold, its still in bucket inside my outbuilding. Had a half dozen little peppers starting. Wonder why pepper plants take so long to get going, they seem to just be starting when good weather is getting done. And anm getting them started before Mothers day.

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2018 01:29 PM (6VrXf)

29 Kindltot at November 17, 2018 01:19 PM
Sounds like your timing was good.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 01:29 PM (BVQ+1)

30 Kindltot at November 17, 2018 01:15 PM (mUa7G)

I have made kimchi myself, but found a place in Santa Rosa that makes excellent Korean and Japanese kimchi. Since I'm the only one that eats it I find it easier to buy.

Posted by: Grannymimi at November 17, 2018 01:31 PM (u5LFV)

31 The first unidentified flower looks like a Silphium, though it could be a Helianthus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silphium_(genus)

I would guess that the other one is a Vernonia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernonia

Posted by: Don at November 17, 2018 01:31 PM (PWFM9)

32 the lonely avocado - isn't that an alice waters restaurant?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 17, 2018 01:33 PM (Pg+x7)

33 ... the solitary sunflower?

the existential thistle?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 17, 2018 01:35 PM (Pg+x7)

34 The bacteria in the gut thing is apparently a pretty big deal. Antibiotics can kill off a lot, and alter the future gut functions, which perhaps influences digestion, maybe even attitude, disease ... idk.

There are various "probiotics" (or some suggest yogurt) to replace and enhance the "gut culture", but getting them to survive the stomach acids leave their usefulness in doubt. Some claim a very "high colonic" (?) from their healthy spouse's (or other) bowels has fixed everything, after something like c-dif has wiped out their own system. (my Mom's c-dif experience sent me done this path many years ago)

Winemaking regions make a nice profit off claims that their yeast is superior to others (Bourdeaux or whatever .... not just about the terroir geographics, but also the wild yeast in those fields, as I understand it, though one can buy various yeasts for various wines). So the various fungi and bacteria are interesting studies, beyond simply not dying from botulism.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 17, 2018 01:39 PM (Cus5s)

35 Skip-- outbuilding? Probably too cold and dark there. (Had put mine in the dining room, by south-facing window).

But, yeah, they seem to just get going around mid/late summer here, too.

Next year, maybe an earlier start indoors (along with tomatoes!) around Feb or March would do the trick? Would require supplemental lighting tho.

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2018 01:39 PM (zMzA6)

36 They invented craisins. Why not crickles? Sounds good.

>>>Kind of unsettling to think that your social confidence might be highly influenced by bacteria in your gut.

Some people like to claim that everything is tied to gut bacteria, like weight, liver health, memory, "gut-brain axis", etc. There is probably no field as full of unconfirmed bs than nutrition. Same with "superfoods".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2018 01:41 PM (/qEW2)

37
We have some milkweed in our little garden and the other week the migrating monarchs were happily swarming over it.

We're keeping our feeders filled for the birds. It was quite cold here this week and they went through seed at a good clip. The little sparrows hid in the bottlebrushes to stay out of the wind.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2018 01:45 PM (LsBY9)

38 colfax mingo at November 17, 2018 01:18 PM
Did we hear about you growing sweet potatoes? The pie sounds great.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 01:48 PM (BVQ+1)

39 Thirst!

that's the Kansas i 'member from my (blessedly) short time on Ft Riley...

wall to wall F all, and flatter than an embalmed corpse's heart monitor.

also, that citrus tree down in San Clemente is likely a grapefruit, given the shape of the fruit. we have an apple tree in the back yard, but, when it does have fruit, the squirrels gnaw on them before we ever get a chance to try them.

/me waves to SoCal neighbor "Invisible Hand"

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 17, 2018 01:59 PM (Dagiw)

40 Pretty dang sure that lonely yellow flower in the remnant tallgrass prairie is Jerusalem Artichoke, aka Helianthus tuberosus (preview.tinyurl.com/y7vck8uf).

Introduced as a delicacy for royalty in Europe, eventually became a common livestock fodder, and subsistance food during WWII.

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 17, 2018 02:00 PM (i+oH0)

41 Don at November 17, 2018 01:31 PM
The leaves of the mystery "sunflower tribe" plant do indeed look like the leaves of one of the species pictured on the page you linked. The flowers look like another species pictured.

Don't know that I have ever heard of Vernonia (Ironweed).

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 02:04 PM (BVQ+1)

42 if anyone followed the link on the recipe and wound up in a dead end, you can naow find "Kraut Source" here: https://www.krautsource.com/

also, you can apparently find them on Amazon, which means buying it there will help fund the Ewok's shelf building lessons.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 17, 2018 02:06 PM (Dagiw)

43 Didn't toss it out but even a day after it was
wilting from cold, its still in bucket inside my outbuilding. Had a
half dozen little peppers starting. Wonder why pepper plants take so
long to get going, they seem to just be starting when good weather is
getting done. And anm getting them started before Mothers day.
Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2018 01:29 PM (6VrXf)

Peppers need a lot of heat to get going and put out fruit. I find it best to deeply water, but only a couple of times a week. I put on 4-5 gallons at a time. (I may have mentioned it a dozen times in the last year that I water with 5 gallon buckets with a small hole bored in the bottom)

Still, my jalapenos did not do well this year

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2018 02:06 PM (mUa7G)

44 redc1c4 at November 17, 2018 01:59 PM
Ever seen a Meyer lemon?

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 02:06 PM (BVQ+1)

45 We're learning about all the stuff you can put into tour landscape here in subtropical SW FL. Clusia, red tipped cocoplum, areca palm, foxtail palm, foxtail ferns, stoplight croton, and much much more. It's fun.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 17, 2018 02:07 PM (BWa+9)

46 Hey Katy, I'd trade our apple tree for some of those trees that turn so lovely in the fall. The lone scrawny avocado has grown tell tale lumps since pic taken. Maybe next season we'll get more than one.

By the by, you mention that our apple tree unique as it bears fruit in our coastal village. Although we are not farmers, we bought our home from an award winning gardener. She, the wife of a career Army officer, had been stationed in SE USA. As she was on the same latitude there as she was here, she planted much that you'd see on a tour of a South Carolina plantation, for example.

Since my far better half and I honeymooned in SE the different plants and trees in our yard bring fond memories and happy days. We are quite lucky in that regard.

Thanks for your good works.

Posted by: The Invisible Hand at November 17, 2018 02:12 PM (YpRda)

47 Les Kinetic at November 17, 2018 02:07 PM
Sound like fun. Let us know what you decide on.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 02:14 PM (BVQ+1)

48 Autumn has been a big meh here in NoVA. Kind of went from summer into winter. It does get real colorful around here in the fall, just not this one. My balcony garden is pretty much dead. My next few days off I'll clear it out. It will be part of the mass cleaning I will be doing before my folks come down Tuesday. They spend Thanksgiving with me. They bring Blondie, the Nazgul Kittuh! A huge 15 lb cat. He's nice, till he isn't.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 17, 2018 02:16 PM (zf4I8)

49 Even my Anaheim peppers didn't do well. But it was a cooler very wet year.

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2018 02:17 PM (6VrXf)

50 The Invisible Hand at November 17, 2018 02:12 PM
Good you could check in. Sunset lists 3 or 4 apples for Zone 24. One is called "Beverly Hills". Can't tell from the descriptions which one you have.

Your avocado would probably bear more fruit if a neighbor had a different variety that bloomed at the same time. Good luck with your tree. They can be messy when they get big.

Interesting story about your predecessors in the house and garden.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 02:20 PM (BVQ+1)

51 We might include some squash on the table, as we were blessed. The indoor herb garden will flavor the stuffing. Attendees will hint about their willingness to accept some of the canning.

We had pulled pork day with some friends. 150 pounds of pork shoulder is now 66 pounds of hickory smoked goodness. Finished cost was a little under $4 per pound. This weekend i am doing jerky for the first time.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at November 17, 2018 02:21 PM (KwmrY)

52 Our internet service has been, shall we say, mercurial so I'm getting my comments in before it goes belly up again.

Thanks to KT and the contributors for the thread and all those gorgeous photos. I've never seen that prarie area before (never been west of the Mississippi) so that was especially interesting.

The Pinetree catalog arrived the other day, the first to appear. I spent a couple of hours with it just dreaming about what we might do this spring. What a pleasant way to pass the time.

We've had a few below freezing nights and covered the leaf lettuce and herbs. So far they are all coming through just fine. The chives continue to be a treat on eggs, spuds, in soup, etc.

I love lacto-fermented foods both for their taste and their health benefits. My social skills are OK so that aspect doesn't matter. But those cranberry recipes look very interesting. I am a cranberry freak. I even put a dollop of homemade cranberry sauce (sweetner in place of the sugar) in my oatmeal or mixed in Greek yogurt. Yum!

I'll monitor the thread as the internet gods permit. Hope everyone is enjoying the seasonal weather.

Posted by: JTB at November 17, 2018 02:37 PM (758Rh)

53 I know folks in the east had a tough time with the snow. We had more ice than snow but I still got to enjoy it since I don't go out when it's icy. The cost of a sky crane helicopter to get my ass up if I slip is prohibitive and insurance doesn't cover that. :-)

Judging by the horrific traffic reports on Thursday and Friday, I made the right decision.

Posted by: JTB at November 17, 2018 02:41 PM (758Rh)

54 Enjoy some plants? I just spent a hour pulling weeds. LOL

Posted by: JAS at November 17, 2018 02:42 PM (3HNOQ)

55 Half-pint of cheapo schnapps will cure shyness, quick and dirty.

Posted by: klaftern at November 17, 2018 02:45 PM (RuIsu)

56 I hope you have some time to enjoy some plants, or at least some places where plants grow when it's not too cold,

Last week I wrote about the citronella plant that seems to thrive on neglect. We had a hard freeze and I forgot to bring that plant back in the house.
Next morning, there it was, not much worse for the wear. Of course I brought it right in the house, but my suggestion still stands: if you think you don't have a green thumb, try a citronella. It appears to defy any best efforts to kill it.

It flowers in mid summer, pretty lilac pink blooms, but mainly is grown for the foliage that is supposed to keep bugs away. Have to say I have never seen a critter on it.

Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2018 02:46 PM (kD8Fh)

57 Schnapps.

Liquid courage.

Heh.

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2018 02:47 PM (zMzA6)

58 That top pic is beautiful - it looks like it could be from somewhere way up north, like Wisconsin, where there is a greater chance of an early snowfall. Very very pretty.

Posted by: bluebell at November 17, 2018 02:48 PM (U5tDi)

59 JTB at November 17, 2018 02:37 PM
Glad your lettuce and herbs are still surviving.

I was thinking of you when I found those fermented cranberry recipes. The onions looked interesting, too.

Hope you have a great Thanksgiving.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 02:48 PM (BVQ+1)

60 Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2018 01:45 PM
Interesting to hear about the migrating butterflies and birds.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 02:50 PM (BVQ+1)

61 Gordon Scott at November 17, 2018 02:21 PM
'Let us know next week if the squash was a success. Sounds like you have planned some cooking ahead with good results.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 02:55 PM (BVQ+1)

62 re the sunflower in prairie pic, it's a prairie sunflower:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helianthus_petiolaris

Posted by: Donkey Joto at November 17, 2018 02:55 PM (0D9O2)

63 JAS at November 17, 2018 02:42 PM

Fighting some plants is the price we pay for enjoying others.

Heh.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 02:56 PM (BVQ+1)

64
We live in an area dominated by surrounding pasture and rice farms so there's few trees and flowers around.

Our garden is small, but meant to attract birds, hummers, bees and butterflies. And they all know we're the place to come.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2018 02:57 PM (LsBY9)

65 Pets up.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at November 17, 2018 03:02 PM (w7U7L)

66 Just want to wish everyone a lovely Thanksgiving and look forward to tales of our gardens contributing to the holiday. And maybe some more seed catalogs.

Posted by: JTB at November 17, 2018 03:04 PM (758Rh)

67 Mrs. Invisible Hand tells me that the apple tree pictured above is an Anna Apple tree. She explained they are known for not requiring as much of a chill as other types.

Live and learn, eh?

Posted by: The Invisible Hand at November 17, 2018 03:10 PM (YpRda)

68 The Invisible Hand at November 17, 2018 03:10 PM
Your wife is right. Sunset even rates "Anna" for parts of Hawaii. Says it is an early apple that sometimes bears light second or third crops. Good pollenizer for a couple of other low-chill apples.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 03:47 PM (BVQ+1)

69 kallisto at November 17, 2018 02:46 PM
Thanks for the recommendation. I take it that you are growing the scented geranium (pelargonium) rather than lemon grass.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 03:52 PM (BVQ+1)

70 KT: Meyer lemons that i've seen tend to be more ovalish than the fruit on that tree appear to be, vice grapefruit being rounder...

of course, IH may have already weighed in on the issue, as i haven't read all the comments.

i was off cooking things for future meals here... like beef stew for a friend who's trying to recover from a near fatal bout with kidney issues.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 17, 2018 04:03 PM (Dagiw)

71 Yes KT it is the pelargonium. One year I went koo-koo with scented geraniums, and the citronella is the lone survivor!

Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2018 04:05 PM (Yl3Ht)

72 Late to the thread. Here is a great link for flower ID:

http://www.kswildflower.org/

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 17, 2018 04:07 PM (hyuyC)

73 redc1c4 at November 17, 2018 04:03 PM
Hope your friend is doing better. Sounds scary.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 04:08 PM (BVQ+1)

74 1st flower ID: A late blooming Ashy Sunflower.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 17, 2018 04:09 PM (hyuyC)

75 Someday I want to see a prairie chicken. I've seen some of their western cousins.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 04:10 PM (BVQ+1)

76 NaCly Dog at November 17, 2018 04:07 PM
Thanks for the great wildflower reference.

Posted by: KT at November 17, 2018 04:11 PM (BVQ+1)

77 2nd flower ID: late blooming Western Ironweed.

This is a tell-tail species of good pasture. That is why my fields do not have any.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 17, 2018 04:12 PM (hyuyC)

78 I had apple and rose scented geraniums and trailing geraniums that I love love love but they went the way of all flesh. I like to plant salmon color traditional geraniums - like KT's cousin overwinters - with lilac colored impatiens. Haven't been able to do that the past few yrs. due to fungal outbreak on impatiens. Bummer.

Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2018 04:13 PM (Yl3Ht)

79 KT

You are welcome. It's the least I can do. You do so much for us.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 17, 2018 04:13 PM (hyuyC)

80 tell tale. Sigh.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 17, 2018 04:14 PM (hyuyC)

81 Geranium saga continued: so this year got a new to me variety - Vancouver centennial - that has interesting foliage and flowers that resemble fireworks when they start to bloom. Guess one could say I'm a geranium groupie!

Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2018 04:19 PM (Yl3Ht)

82 Not much to say about Idaho's Treasure Valley this week.

Lots of leaf-raking. 13 leaf bags went on the curb last Tuesday, and I just produced 4 more today. Husband uses the sweeper-cart to gather up wind-rows of leaves I rake up, and haul them to the paddock for burn piles. (I threw some dry asparagus stalks on the piles, but haven't completely emptied the bed of old stalks yet.)

We'd gathered all the apples we could, from a poor crop this year. This week, we canned 14 pint and 2 quart jars of applesauce, and squeezed out 2 gallons of cider.

For us, it was a great year for peppers (most of them started indoors early), but a poor year for butternut squash (we didn't give them enough room for their roots - all we got were tiny squashes I used for Halloween decor - husband called them "bonsai squash").

About the unknown yellow flower, my guess was going to be Arrowleaf Balsamroot,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balsamorhiza_sagittata
but without a close-up of leaves or flower, it's hard to say - plus, this flower might not grow that far east.

Thanksgiving dinner's menu is not yet set (it's just husband and me), but he does want an apple pie, made with our pre-canned "Insta-Pie" filling, so that much of our produce will make it into dinner, at least.

Hope all Morons, 'ettes, Lurkers, and Pets have much to be thankful for, this year and every year!

Posted by: Pat* at November 17, 2018 04:21 PM (2pX/F)

83 Skip, what JQ said above may be part of the problem. Also if you transplant something w/ a big enough root system you need to balance out what's above ground w/ what you diminished below ground. Trim a bit of the foliage and pick the peppers so there's more of a balance.

I brought a green pepper plant in one year and kept it alive in a pot for several years, taking it outside in the summer. Think I stuck it back in the ground, tho not sure. Alas our aging digestive systems can no longer easily handle much pepper anymore.

Posted by: Farmer at November 17, 2018 04:48 PM (T5tjg)

84 Next year I will try much sooner, not getting much anyway after Halloween

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2018 04:58 PM (6VrXf)

85
Kinda sad the garden thread can't break through 100, much less 1000..

Posted by: Spun and Murky at November 17, 2018 05:12 PM (4DCSq)

86 Late in the season.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 17, 2018 05:21 PM (hyuyC)

87 Planted carrot, chard, pea, kale and spinach seeds today in Houston. We had 2 freezes this week and today it was back in the 70's! We are losing the lawn to brown patch because of all the rain. Thanks for the gardening thread KT, such a nice break from the cares of the world!

Posted by: Dreadpirateroberta at November 17, 2018 09:45 PM (yjbTx)

88 kallisto at November 17, 2018 04:13 PM

Thought about ageratum in place of the lilac impatiens? Or statice? or Scabiosia 'Vivid Violet'?

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at November 17, 2018 11:25 PM (BVQ+1)

89 Dreadpirateroberta at November 17, 2018 09:45 PM

Interesting that this is your planting season. Late even for here in Central California.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at November 17, 2018 11:27 PM (BVQ+1)

90 Pat* at November 17, 2018 04:21 PM

Thanks! /and you have a great Thanksgiving, too.

Let us know how the pie turns out, and how you make the filling.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at November 17, 2018 11:30 PM (BVQ+1)

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