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Food Thread: Subverting The Dominant Roasting Paradigm, One Microwaved Turkey At A Time

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Somebody has done it. You know it's true.

In reality, I'm pretty sure that it can be done. If I were to try, I would microwave the thing for about five minutes at a time, checking the internal temperature and then rotating it after every dose of microwave. It will undoubtedly heat very unevenly, so this is an important step.

My guess is that it would also give off a huge amount of moisture, so putting it into a container with a lip of some kind and then draining it periodically might be smart. I would reserve the liquid and make some sort of gravy with it. And when the internal temperature (checked in several different spots) reached a reasonable point, I would take it out, dry it off, and use a blow torch on it to brown the skin. Maybe even put it on the grill to get some crispiness.

So...who is going to try it? I'll toss in a two year Platinum membership with Troll-B-GonTM and ampersand utility for anyone who can provide documentary evidence of the cooking of a microwaved Thanksgiving turkey and it being consumed by human Morons.

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Hah! You thought you could get away with not buying another copy? Not a chance.

Seriously, the cookbook is loads of fun, is actually quite useful, and 100% of the profit goes to worthy causes.

Click on the cover art (or the link on the main page sidebar) to go to the Amazon page. It's easy! Buy two!

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There is so much disinformation about food safety that sometimes people lose sight of the fact that lots of people have studied it for a very long time. One of my pet peeves is the constant drumbeat that declares ridiculous target temperatures for cooked food. For instance, The USDA dropped its recommended minimum for pork from an astoundingly awful 160 degrees to a still-overcooked 145 degrees. They are obviously assuming that American pork is riddled with trichinosis, but it really isn't. Sure, if you buy a pig from a local farmer who feeds table scraps to his pigs and lets them do what pigs do (be cannibalistic), then assuming trichinosis is reasonable. But commercial pork? Nope...it's pretty damned safe.

Oh...that 145 degrees? They want you to cook your steak to that temperature. What's the term for more than well-done?

Lets get the food safety science right at Thanksgiving

It is a well-accepted fact that 100 percent of poultry products are contaminated with salmonella. You read right, 100 percent of the Thanksgiving turkeys carry salmonella. It is only the cooking to proper temperatures and the avoidance of cross contamination that stands between health and sickness.

Not quite, FSIS actually does a great job in reporting contamination levels of Salmonella in poultry, and shows that in turkey contamination is much lower (like only 1.7% positive in turkey). And campy is around the same.
I'm all for talking about food safety and risk reduction and using the holidays as a hook - but lets get the numbers right, avoid the fake news, and give people real risk information.

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Fermented foods are great! Yeah....it's not just beer and wine and booze; there are hundreds of other delicious things one can make using the power of yeast and bacteria. Here's a company [Hat Tip: redc1c4] that makes a nicely designed top for Mason jars in which you are making pickles or kimchi or whatever floats your boat. Obviously this can be done in a bunch of different ways, and the company itself is a bit too smug and hipsterish and touchy-feely for my taste, but the product is undeniably well designed.

How many of you do this stuff at home? I have made pickles, and a long time ago knew someone whose mother made the best kimchi in the world, but I almost always buy my fermented stuff (except for sourdough!).

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Yes, I am proud of that loaf, and will be boring you with my sourdough exploits until I move on to something different.

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She wanted to serve her guests mushroom-smothered steak, but she had no mushrooms and no time to buy them.

Her husband suggested, "Why don't you go pick some of the mushrooms that are growing wild down by the stream?

"No, some wild mushrooms are poisonous."

"Well, I see squirrels eating them and they're OK."

So she picked a bunch and washed, sliced and sauted them for her dinner.

Then she went out on the back porch and gave Spot, their dog, a double handful.

Spot ate every bite.

All morning long, she watched the dog.

The wild mushrooms hadn't affected him after a few hours, so she decided to use them.

The meal was a great success.

After everyone had finished, her daughter came in and whispered in her ear,
"Mum, Spot is dead."

Trying to keep her head about her, she left the room as quickly as possible, called the doctor and told him what had happened.

The doctor said, "That's bad, but I think we can take care of it. I'll call for an ambulance and I'll be there as quickly as I can. We'll give everyone enemas and we'll pump out their stomachs and everything will be fine. Just keep them calm."

Before long they started to hear the sirens as the ambulance tore down the road. The Paramedics and the doctor had their suitcases, syringes, and a stomach pump. One by one, they took each person into the bathroom, gave them an enema, and pumped out their stomach.

Well after midnight, after the last one was done the doctor came out and said, "Everything will be okay now," and with that he left.

The hosts and the guests were all weak and knackered sitting around the living room when the daughter came in and said to her mum.....

"I can't believe that guy!"

"What guy?"

"You know, that bastard who ran over Spot; He never even slowed down."

[Hat Tip: Blake]
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Brussels Sprouts are good...with bacon. Actually, they are great with bacon (as are all other foods), and reasonably good prepared in other ways. I think. I don't really know because bacon seems like the perfect ingredient to make them tasty, so why bother with anything else.

High heat, salt and pepper, some olive oil to get the browning started, lots of cut-up bacon, and you are good to go. This one of those foods that does not need multiple layers of flavor and lots of ingredients (in a pinch you can leave out the Brussels sprouts, the salt, the pepper and the olive oil).

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Pecan pie is something that I very rarely eat, but when I do it is a real pleasure. yes, they can be quite sweet, and sometimes they are too gloppy for their own good, but a well-executed pecan pie is a real treat. This year I will be adding chocolate, for no particular reason other than I have free will and a lot of chocolate, but mostly a lot of chocolate.

I looked at a fair number of recipes, and there is nothing out of the ordinary about chocolate in pecan pie, so I'm going to wing it. I did find this recipe for Maple Chocolate Pecan Pie, which seems a bit busy, but as long as you aren't using maple syrup on your French Toast, I'll allow it.

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Food and cooking tips, Haggis, young wild pigs, Scotch Eggs, thick and fluffy pita and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit.

Posted by: CBD at 04:05 PM




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1 Bird is the word!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:02 PM (kQs4Y)

2 That will never work

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:02 PM (6VrXf)

3 My daughter just gave me an early Xmas present. She asked me to help her in stocking her bar with good but not extravagant liquor. This is right up my alley. The only thing better would be doing the same thing for my bar.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (T6t7i)

4 I'm doing a coffee brine a la Gronkowski this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feL14Qkb44o

Coffee brine, coffee-vanilla bacon lattice, and espresso gravy.

The recipes: https://tinyurl.com/ydeqpcgh

I can afford to experiment this year because it's just me, and heck, I'll eat it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (kQs4Y)

5 Eris' job to fetch the corgis

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (6VrXf)

6 Mmm, brussel sprouts. With bacony goodness!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:06 PM (WEBkv)

7 I use to have a very good selection of wine some years ago, barely can keep a few bottles now.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:07 PM (6VrXf)

8 I like brussel sprouts. But occasionally I can persuade the missus to make them with bacon and brown sugar, which is awesome.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 04:08 PM (H5knJ)

9 That loaf of sourdough does look good.

I told the wife I need to try making pan seared steaks with garlic and butter.

So, it's on the menu and sometime in the next week, I'll give it a go.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:08 PM (WEBkv)

10 When did the scare about not cooking stuffing in in the turkey start. I've heard about it for years, but we've always put stuffing in the turkey for as long as I can recall and nobody ever got sick. I'm planning to cook stuffing in the turkey this year. I hope we all survive.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (AllCR)

11 Nom nom food thread!!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (fnWQo)

12 It is a well-accepted fact that 100 percent of poultry products are
contaminated with salmonella. You read right, 100 percent of the
Thanksgiving turkeys carry salmonella. It is only the cooking to proper
temperatures and the avoidance of cross contamination that stands
between health and sickness.


Also, turkeys cause global warming and shingles. True story!

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:10 PM (T6t7i)

13 "How many of you do this stuff at home?"

I have kombucha and "friendship bread" starter living next to each other on the counter. Just started new mixed veggie ferments (one soy/sesame and one sugar/vinegar) yesterday because I felt like the old ones weren't getting as good of a flavor any more.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:10 PM (uquGJ)

14 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (kQs4Y)

Sounds interesting and potentially wonderful.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:11 PM (uquGJ)

15 It's been mentioned on other threads. MeTV is showing the WKRP in Cincinatti Turkey episode at 7:30 eastern tonight. Also, Youtube has a video of the whole episode if you don't get MeTV.

I've seen that show so many times and laugh like a loon every time. Just FYI.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:12 PM (758Rh)

16 Speaking of food safety, I have a bet with my wife. If you have some leftover meat, say turkey, you have enough to eat for a few days, keeping it refrigerated and all, then you decide to make, say quesadillas with it. Normally, the turkey is good for maybe 4-5 days before you have to throw out whats left. BUT, if you cook it again, say fry it or whatever, you know, for the quesadillas, does your timer start over again for the twice cooked turkey in the quesadilla's, and they might be good for another 4-5 days?
My wife says "no way, Jose", I say we're good to go for the extra.


Posted by: Last at November 18, 2018 04:12 PM (8HiDF)

17 I am making jello for Thanksgiving. And napkins.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (lwiT4)

18
Scotch eggs: death pills.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (LsBY9)

19 I'm going to do low and slow turkey this year. My friends have done it at 200 degrees, but some fancy-pants guy at Splendid Table set his oven at 170. This just seems madness to me.

CBD or anyone, have you used this method before?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (kQs4Y)

20 When did the scare about not cooking stuffing in in the turkey start. I've heard about it for years, but we've always put stuffing in the turkey for as long as I can recall and nobody ever got sick. I'm planning to cook stuffing in the turkey this year. I hope we all survive.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (AllCR)
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Anymore, when I stuff a turkey, I put in onions, garlic and maybe a bit of fresh rosemary. Helps keep things moist.

Did one on a charcoal grill a few years ago and it was incredible. Bit of work keeping the grill going, but did that turkey have some flavor.

Glad we're eating soon!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (WEBkv)

21 Did the oven-cooked bacon thing last week. It was really nice to have all the bacon done at once and be able to work on the other food (pancakes) while it was cooking.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (uquGJ)

22 Wife bought these
https://nourishedessentials.com
and has already made some fermented sweet pickles... my favorite!

Posted by: MarkY at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (wcNiW)

23 Don't really use a microwave. When I was a single guy I had someone house/dog sitting for me, she rented some movies and picked up some microwave popcorn. Calls me up to find out where my microwave is, I told her I don't have one. Next day she calls to find out where I kept my iron, I had to tell her I don't have one of those either.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 04:14 PM (Rz2Nc)

24 There are mushroom hunters who take people on hikes to ID the fungi. I met one recently, a 30 yr. old guy.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:14 PM (HKPap)

25 Anymore, when I stuff a turkey, I put in onions, garlic and maybe a bit of fresh rosemary. Helps keep things moist.

It sounds good. Does it protect from death by salmonella?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (AllCR)

26
You can kill the bad taste of pecan pie with Ice Cream.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (b16/K)

27
Very orthodox Thanksgiving this year at Schloss Hadrian: turkey, scalloped potatoes, cranberry sauce and pumpkin pie. We've had lamb, roast, and cajun-seasoned duck in the past.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (LsBY9)

28 Speaking of buying the cookbook, have you bought the cookbook yet?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (MVjcR)

29 Posted by: Last at November 18, 2018 04:12 PM (8HiDF)

Uhm...I routinely keep meat for two weeks (before any recooking which I wouldn't say restarts the clock but does push it back a bit) and none of us have ever gotten sick. I wouldn't want to keep it out on the counter endlessly before hand though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (uquGJ)

30 Rosemary is like cilantro. Hate them both. Also caraway seeds.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:16 PM (lwiT4)

31 I will not accept the challenge to microwave a turkey. I would go to Hell.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:16 PM (NMAzL)

32 Brine, brine BRINE your turkey and you will be amazed just how tender and juicy it is. I think the other key is the covered resting phase before carving.

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:16 PM (fnWQo)

33 Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM (WEBkv)

I no longer particularly care for the taste of turkey, but grilled/smoked turkey is definitely wonderful.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:16 PM (uquGJ)

34
Oh, and ordered soup greens for the leftover turkey.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:17 PM (LsBY9)

35 Nice loaf there, CBD. Hat tip.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:17 PM (HKPap)

36 CBD, I would love to have your sourdough bread recipe. I have starter.

On another note, There is a gas stove top in the kitchen that is black glass. I hate is because it is such a b**ch to clean. Any ideas for replacement?

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (SzQWn)

37 If you do a slow cook method for turkey how long do you cook it and at what temperature?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (AllCR)

38 Why go to all the trouble to nuke the turkey? Put it in the oven with a thermometer.
Drink.

Posted by: MarkY at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (wcNiW)

39
Never much liked pecan pie, which is too sweet for my taste. Not to disparage it as a dessert.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (LsBY9)

40 Speaking of buying the cookbook, have you bought the cookbook yet?
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (MVjcR)

I just unpacked my copy - it's been hidden in a box since April.

Right now I'm zeroing in on Cajun-style fried chicken and a better-than-acceptable biscuit. Also, I've discovered a love of turnip greens doused with Texas Pete pepper juice. The ones made with ham hocks at Cracker Barrel are the best I've found so far.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:19 PM (NMAzL)

41 I'm also in charge of the pies for Thanksgiving. Thank the good Lord for the Lake Geneva Pie Co.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:19 PM (lwiT4)

42 Anymore, when I stuff a turkey, I put in onions, garlic and maybe a bit of fresh rosemary. Helps keep things moist.



It sounds good. Does it protect from death by salmonella?


Don't be silly. It only protects against vampire turkeys, which you've never seen because it works so well.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:19 PM (T6t7i)

43 Wouldn't microwaving cause the texture to be different even if the turkey reached the same temperature? Ie. wouldn't it taste like warm, raw goop as opposed to oven baked? I thought bacon was the only sort of flesh you could microwave properly.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:19 PM (/qEW2)

44 There is a spiffy good recipe for turkey on the grill in the cookbook.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (MVjcR)

45 >>Brussels Sprouts are good

This is wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (/tuJf)

46 39


Never much liked pecan pie, which is too sweet for my taste. Not to disparage it as a dessert.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Totally agree. It's diabeetus on a plate.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (T6t7i)

47 Rosemary is one those spices/herbs that is too easy to over do. I buy cracked Rosemary and only use the tiniest of pinches. The flavor is there but more subtle. Before it was just too much and I didn*t ike it at all. It really is meant as a background flavor and is amazing on pork!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (fnWQo)

48 Slow bake turkey is some pound per time equation, all in all a good time tested way to do it. I am sure thats how my aunt will cook hers.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (6VrXf)

49 Polliwog yesterday's garden thread made reference to fermented food benefitting our health. Can you share some kombucha tips? Buying it is so expensive!

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (HKPap)

50 Here's another cocktail which is guaranteed to be delight pre-dinner on Thanksgiving.

From roughly the 1850s, via the Waldorf Astoria cocktail book from 1935-

The Emerson

2 oz Old Tom Gin*
1 oz Sweet red Vermouth**
.5 oz fresh lime juice
.1 oz Maraschino liqueur

Shake with ice. Strain into cocktail glass. Drink!

This one is really nice. Perfectly balanced as these classic cocktails tend to be.


* I used Hammer and Son Old English Gin
* I used Contratto Vermouth Rosa

But use what you wish/like.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (9X624)

51 45
>>Brussels Sprouts are good



This is wrong.


It is known.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (T6t7i)

52 We had about 15 people over for a Thanksgiving dinner one year, and after the turkey was in the oven for a couple of hours we discovered the oven was broken and the turkey was uncooked. Everyone was getting hungry, so in desperation I threw it into the microwave for about an hour and a half. It came out perfect.

Posted by: Angel Artiste at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (CqqFJ)

53 Never much liked pecan pie, which is too sweet for my taste. Not to disparage it as a dessert.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM (LsBY9)

I wonder if I could make one with only half to one third of the super-sweet filling. It could work if the crust is flaky enough.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (NMAzL)

54
Brussels sprouts, wax beans, creamed corn: Satan's veggies.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (LsBY9)

55 It sounds good. Does it protect from death by salmonella?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:15 PM (AllCR)
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No, but it might protect one from unwanted advances!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (WEBkv)

56 >>Brussels Sprouts are good



This is wrong.

It is known.
Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (T6t7i)

They're really tasty when halved and roasted with EVOO and salt and pepper.

My SiL picks all of the leaves apart and sautees them.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:22 PM (NMAzL)

57 Kenji Lopez-Alt has a good discussion of safe food temperatures in which he explains that safety is a product of both temperature AND time. If internal temperature is lower, it needs to be cooked longer to kill dangerous bacteria. For example, a boneless chicken breast cooked sous vide at 136 F needs to be cooked for 68.4 minutes to reach the USDA's standard for killing bacteria.

Entire article is here: https://tinyurl.com/ybqcd8uv

The 165 F number is premised on the idea that the food cooks for basically no time at all. That temp is sufficient to incinerate bacteria--and most of the flavor--almost instantly.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 04:22 PM (S+f+m)

58 That top photo reminded me of our first Thanksgiving in the new-to-us house. My in-laws had come out from Wisconsin. One third of the way through roasting the turkey the oven died. No warning, no hesitation, it just died.

We thought about finishing it in our tiny microwave but it was too big to fit so I hacked it in two. But the thing just wasn't powerful enough. So we had a hacked up, mostly raw turkey and no way to cook it. It was not a pretty sight. We ate out that year for Thanksgiving.

Our Christmas present from Mrs. JTB's parents a few weeks later was one of the larger Nesco cookers. We've used that for the turkey for the last 30-plus years. It works.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (758Rh)

59 Which pies are you getting grammie?

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (HKPap)

60 17 I am making jello for Thanksgiving.
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Squints critically...
With shaved carrots, or mini marshmallows?

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (uBX7f)

61

Brussels Sprouts taste like DIRT.

The only reason you phillistinians like brussel sprouts is because you douse them in butter and salt.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (b16/K)

62 I would not use time/weight charts.
Use a meat thermometer!!

I seriously doubt whether the bird really is better at 200 degrees rather than 275, or even 325.
We aren't talking ribs with collagen or anything.

Posted by: MarkY at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (wcNiW)

63
Artichokes. Now there's a tasty veggie.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:24 PM (b16/K)

64 47 Rosemary is one those spices/herbs that is too easy to over do. I buy cracked Rosemary and only use the tiniest of pinches. The flavor is there but more subtle. Before it was just too much and I didn*t ike it at all. It really is meant as a background flavor and is amazing on pork!
Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM (fnWQo)
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Where my wife and I live, rosemary is is pretty much a weed. We just go out and hack off a few stalks and away we go.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:25 PM (WEBkv)

65 Hey everybody, again.

If I had the money, I think I would get a turkey fryer. I've heard so many people tell me how incredibly tasty fried turkey is.

I also very much like the idea of being able to fry 30 chicken wings at a time. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:25 PM (miE9U)

66 The only reason you phillistinians like brussel sprouts is because you douse them in butter and salt.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (b16/K)

Well duh.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:25 PM (NMAzL)

67

Pastene, I think, makes little jars of artichoke hearts marinated in some liquid...vinegar?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:25 PM (b16/K)

68 45 >>Brussels Sprouts are good compost material

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 04:20 PM

Fixed it for us

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (6VrXf)

69 I use rosemary on my venison backstraps and lamb both.
Olive oil, thyme, rosemary, garlic and salt.
Only way I think it's good is to cook it on the grill. I do NOT like it in sauces.

Posted by: MarkY at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (wcNiW)

70 Which pies are you getting grammie?

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (HKPap)


Pumpkin, because you have to. Turtle pie, because you want to. Raspberry/Blackberry, because at least you can call it a fruit, and daughter will thereby maybe, just maybe, let the grandkids have some. She's a food nazi.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (lwiT4)

71 Brussels Sprouts taste like DIRT.



The only reason you phillistinians like brussel sprouts is because you douse them in butter and salt.



Seriously. Who would eat those things voluntarily? At least add some garlic.

Posted by: Escargot at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (T6t7i)

72 Brussels Sprouts taste like DIRT.

The only reason you phillistinians like brussel sprouts is because you douse them in butter and salt.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (b16/K)

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Wow, the thread is infested with a bunch of cooking savages. Next thing you know, they'll be talking about putting syrup on waffles.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (WEBkv)

73 There are many dried, cured versions of ham that aren't cooked. I wonder what would happen if you tried that with turkey. Rub salt all over it then hang in a low humidity room for several months. Turksciutto.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (/qEW2)

74 I am out of vanilla! Would any of you gourmands weigh in on your preferred types? I*m looking to see what i don*t know!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:27 PM (fnWQo)

75 Everyone was getting hungry, so in desperation I threw it into the microwave for about an hour and a half. It came out perfect.
Posted by: Angel Artiste at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (CqqFJ)
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THis is like a holiday miracle complete with culinary angel visitation. No way you can microwave a turkey!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:27 PM (kQs4Y)

76 I am making jello for Thanksgiving. And napkins.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM

Hey, grammie. I can top that. Was 'spose to go to SIL's and she was cooking. However, son calls and says he's coming home to surprise Mom. (She's been under the weather.)

So instead of going out to get all the fixins I placed order with Cracker Barrel for the whole dinner. Couple hours in the oven, and voila': Turkey and sides for 10-12.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (Dhht7)

77 Squints critically...

With shaved carrots, or mini marshmallows?

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (uBX7f)



No this time I'm dumping a bag of frozen mixed fruit into it. Again, so the little ones are allowed to eat it, because, fruit.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (lwiT4)

78 I will not accept the challenge to microwave a turkey. I would go to Hell.

Only if hell is a place of intense fire caused by stupidity in cooking turkeys. I don't recall that in any of my theology classes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (AllCR)

79 76 I am making jello for Thanksgiving. And napkins.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:13 PM

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With or without grated carrots?

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (WEBkv)

80
I am out of vanilla! Would any of you gourmands weigh in on your preferred types?

The type that's in ice cream.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (LsBY9)

81 Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:21 PM (HKPap)

I watched a bunch of YouTube videos before starting. It does take a purchased bottle, if you don't want to buy a SCOBY, and some patience. I completely ignored the stuff about organic tea/sugar/etc. and it seems to be working. I opted for green tea because I had a new box of 100 bags and have used a couple different sugars with no apparent ill affects to the SCOBY.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (uquGJ)

82 I think at least one of the major fires raging right now in California was caused by someone trying to microwave an entire Thanksgiving turkey... :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (miE9U)

83 Hits the spot

Posted by: That bastard at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (aKsyK)

84

No this time I'm dumping a bag of frozen mixed fruit into it. Again, so the little ones are allowed to eat it, because, fruit.


Also dump a bag of Candy Corn into it.

Corn is healthy, yes?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (b16/K)

85 So instead of going out to get all the fixins I
placed order with Cracker Barrel for the whole dinner. Couple hours
in the oven, and voila': Turkey and sides for 10-12.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (Dhht7)



Good thinking! And no prep or clean-up! I would do that if it was just us. As it stands, my kids actually like to cook. So I stand there with a glass in my hand, watching them.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (lwiT4)

86 gramme winger, do what I do. Sculpt an entire turkey out of pumpkin pie filling and ReddiWip.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:30 PM (miE9U)

87 *fistbump* on the napkins, grammie.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)

88 Sooth - yes, corn is very good. I'll try it!

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:30 PM (lwiT4)

89 23 Don't really use a microwave. When I was a single guy I had someone house/dog sitting for me, she rented some movies and picked up some microwave popcorn. Calls me up to find out where my microwave is, I told her I don't have one. Next day she calls to find out where I kept my iron, I had to tell her I don't have one of those either.
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 04:14 PM (Rz2Nc)

As a single guy, I'm ashamed to say, "check" and "check."

No microwave. No iron.

I do have a frying pan though. And a cutting board! AND a wine bottle opener.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 04:31 PM (GBteo)

90 We make our own vanilla, a few beans split down center and a small bottle of vodka. Takes a good month but after that you will not run out for years. Just replenished a few beans and vodka after maybe 10 years.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (6VrXf)

91 Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:29 PM (lwiT4)

Something they have at the market which is adorable is a small sculpted butter shaped like a turkey. If I was having a fancy-schmantzy lovely decorated table I might get that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (AllCR)

92 Home made pickled veggies, like sauerkraut, are superior to the commercial stuff. I have a device simialr to CBD's link in the post but haven't used it yet. It is easy to do lacto-fermented veggies and instructions are all over the internet. There are major health benefits to the process as well. I've done kraut, Greek yogurt, kafir and sourdough bread. Takes time for the process but it isn't difficult.

That sourdough bread looks fantastic. I have to get my sourdough starter going again.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (758Rh)

93 Does an AoSHQ Platinum Membership include an indulgence for Maple Syrup on French Toast?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (DMUuz)

94 Brussels sprouts have a pleasant, mildly bitter taste, though I prefer the more intense bitterness of broccoli rabe, its close relative.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (/qEW2)

95 Rosemary infused olive oil is nice to drizzle over roasted potatoes.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (HKPap)

96 Duncanthrax: CBD says no, everyone else says yes. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (miE9U)

97 Something they have at the market which is adorable is a small sculpted butter shaped like a turkey. If I was having a fancy-schmantzy lovely decorated table I might get that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:32 PM (AllCR)
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I'm going to keep my eye out for one of those. My wife would like it and it would be fun to put on our table for Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (WEBkv)

98
Earlier I queried about "lime rickeys."

Limerick. Lime ricky. Anyway...

Lime Rickeys are enjoyed by people who like Odd Things, such as rhubarb pie and dark chocolate.

btw, I could not, for the life of me, tell you what's in a lime ricky.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:34 PM (b16/K)

99 She asked me to help her in stocking her bar with good but not extravagant liquor.
Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM


Just make sure all whiskeys have an 'e' in them, and are decent, and you'll be good to go.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:34 PM (DMUuz)

100 Turkey butters at thanksgiving
Tree butters at Christmas
Lamb butters at Easter
These are midwestern traditions!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:34 PM (fnWQo)

101 I am out of vanilla! Would any of you gourmands weigh in on your preferred types? I*m looking to see what i don*t know!

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:27


Probably too late, but a few years ago a friend gave me a bottle of some high end vodka. I bought some vanilla beans on Amazon and made vanilla extract. Had some fancy bottles and made some spiffy labels on the printer and viola, Christmas gifts.

Still using the bottle I have. IIRC, I started soaking the beans in early October. Left the beans in.

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (SzQWn)

102 Soothsayer: a lime ricky is easy.

Just mix together some lime juice, rum and some of the cremated ashes of Desi Arnaz...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (miE9U)

103 And contrary to the post this AM,

It's Pee-can

Posted by: golfman at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (GL/05)

104 >>>It is easy to do lacto-fermented veggies and instructions are all over the internet. There are major health benefits to the process as well.

Don't go there. This is the food thread. We only deal with one end of the alimentary canal.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (/qEW2)

105 Speaking of pickles, KT's gardening thread from yesterday has a link to pickling cranberries in various ways. Definitely wrth checking out.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (758Rh)

106 https://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/lime-rickey

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (miE9U)

107
Just make sure all whiskeys have an 'e' in them, and are decent

The stuff that says "Wiskee" on the label will make you go blind.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (LsBY9)

108 And contrary to the post this AM,

It's Pee-can
Posted by: golfman at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (GL/05)


Only if you can't find it in bottles or on tap.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (t+qrx)

109 Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM (WEBkv)

Just wanted to clarify that it's shaped like a live turkeys with feathers-not a frozen turkey which would not be as fun. I found it in the section with egg nog which was odd, not with the regular butter section.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (AllCR)

110 81. thanks Polli! I don't know what a SCOBY is?

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (HKPap)

111 The stuff that says "Wiskee" on the label will make you go blind.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (LsBY9)


NOW you tell me!!

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (miE9U)

112 Damn that's some fine cover art on The Deplorable Gourmet.

There are drawings on the inside, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (fuK7c)

113 He wouldn't eat his goddam mushrooms.

Posted by: just the punchline at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (fDU8w)

114 kallisto, you've never heard of SCOBY-Doo?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (miE9U)

115 turkey contamination is much lower (like only 1.7% positive in turkey)

Only 1.7%? You're wasting a lot of money on sanitary work habits, gringuitos...

Posted by: "Honduran" "Refugees" at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (NpvYf)

116 Only if hell is a place of intense fire caused by stupidity in cooking turkeys. I don't recall that in any of my theology classes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM (AllCR)

I think it falls under some category of willfully doing the Devil's work.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (NMAzL)

117 Congratulations to Senator Rick Scott and governor Ron Desantis.


And also to Marco Rubio, US Rep Matt Gaetz, and AG Pam Biondi for showing a rare occurrence of Republicans with a spine.

Please go to Arizona and give a seminar to those GOP wimps

Posted by: Jonah at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (HrSJb)

118
It's Pee-can

*sniffs superciliously*

Sophisticated Europeans pronounce it "Pee-saan."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (LsBY9)

119 There are drawings on the inside, too.

I love the last page. My favorite part.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (CE5C/)

120 Eris' job to fetch the corgis
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (6VrXf)

So she's the one who left me Willowed in the last thread?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (fDU8w)

121 I have a book about pickling that I've found very helpful. "Fermented Vegetables: Creative Recipes for Fermenting 64 Vegetables & Herbs in Krauts, Kimchis, Brined Pickles, Chutneys, Relishes & Pastes" by Kirsten Shockey.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (758Rh)

122
I love conversations that go like this:

Are you hungry?
Yeah, I could eat.



Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (b16/K)

123 Scuttlebutt continues to circulate that bluebell and Weasel are at work on Volume II of TDG.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (DMUuz)

124 Hi all...

Been making a big ass pot of turkey broth today. Roasted 4 ginormous turkey wings with onions, carrots, S/P. Drizzled with olive oil and some butter. Roasted for about 1 1/2 hours+ @ 400. Got them nice and golden. Then moved everything to a big stock pot...added fresh thyme, sage, more S/P and enough water to cover. Deglazed the pan they were roasted in to get the good brown bits and have been simmering it for a while.

Smells good in here.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (cF8AT)

125 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (AllCR)
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Thanks.

Hopefully, those are available on the left coast.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (WEBkv)

126 Only 1.7%? You're wasting a lot of money on sanitary work habits, gringuitos...

Left out a term in the sock, dammit!

Posted by: "Honduran" "Refugee" "Families" at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (98WNR)

127 51 45
>>>Brussels Sprouts are good



>> This is wrong.

> It is known.

You are all correct. Attempting to cover up the "Satan's flatulence" smell and taste of Brussels Sprouts with bacon would simply be a waste of good bacon.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (vOkuK)

128 When did the scare about not cooking stuffing in in the turkey start. I've heard about it for years, but we've always put stuffing in the turkey for as long as I can recall and nobody ever got sick. I'm planning to cook stuffing in the turkey this year. I hope we all survive.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:09 PM (AllCR)

I'm sure you will. Same deal in my family, for years. But I think one should take all of the stuffing out of the bird before refrigerating the unconsumed part of the carcass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (fDU8w)

129 No microwave. No iron.

I do have a frying pan though. And a cutting board! AND a wine bottle opener.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 04:31 PM (GBteo)

This describes my kitchen.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (NMAzL)

130 74 I am out of vanilla! Would any of you gourmands weigh in on your preferred types? I*m looking to see what i don*t know!
Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:27 PM (fnWQo)

If you are close to Costco or Sam's clubs, they have a very large bottle of pure vanilla that is about 16 bucks, and it's pretty good. One of those lasts me about 3 months. (We love and respect vanilla in our household.)

Trader Joe's has bourbon vanilla that is very good, and is about 6-8 bucks for 8 ounces. I have been happy with the baked goods I have made with that.

If you want to splurge, get Nielsen Massey. High end grocery stores should carry it, or you can order from Williams Sonoma or King Arthur Flour. It's expensive, but is absolutely divine. This is my stocking request every year. Because vanilla.

Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:40 PM (mFoNl)

131 The NYT has yet to call Florida. They did call Georgia. They have Mia Love ahead by about 600 votes in Utah.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (lwiT4)

132 >>>So...who is going to try it? I'll toss in a two year Platinum membership with Troll-B-GonTM
and ampersand utility for anyone who can provide documentary evidence
of the cooking of a microwaved Thanksgiving turkey and it being consumed
by human Morons.<<<

Hmm. Throw in a pair of those schlong trousers with extra girth, and I'll see if I can find somebody from the trailer park side of the family to sample it.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (Z9C5C)

133 Speaking of French toast have sausage patty this weak for breakfast. Have bagels, a English muffin for sausage egg and cheese breakfast sammy.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (6VrXf)

134 Shrimp jalapeño poppers would make a lovely snack right about now.

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (fnWQo)

135 I forgot to say I do this to have a shit ton of gravy...hate not having enough gravy.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (cF8AT)

136 >>I am making jello for Thanksgiving. And napkins.

Heh! One of my contributions will be store-bought Panera mac'n cheese in a casserole dish, because my son is a super picky eater. I don't even want to get into the various dietary needs of both sides of my family (some medical, some not). *Rolls eyes*

I love my family and accommodate, wherever we celebrate - would never dream of telling, say, the vegetarian SIL to step off. It just makes it more , er, creative sometimes.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (W+vEI)

137 Scuttlebutt continues to circulate that bluebell and Weasel are at work on Volume II of TDG.

I may have a few thousand recipes to add after your deadlines have passed...

Posted by: Brenda Snipes at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (98WNR)

138 I've got my traditional Swanson's Hungry Man turkey dinner, so I'm ready for Thanksgiving.

And I cook it in the actual oven, not the microwave.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (sdi6R)

139 Wegmans had the little turkey butter sculptures.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (kQs4Y)

140 Your sourdough loaf is gorgeous, CBD!!
Impressed.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (W+vEI)

141 And contrary to the post this AM,

It's Pee-can
Posted by: golfman at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (GL/05)


Don't be so nit pecan.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (/qEW2)

142 I've started a new tradition with breakfast. I have a cup of Yorkshire Gold tea with a tiny amount of sweetner and milk. It's smooth and just slightly sweet and goes very well with the meal. I have my black, perked coffee after breakfast.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (758Rh)

143
Just asked Her Majesty if I was a rat bastard for not getting her a Lexus for Christmas. She replied I was a rat bastard for not getting her a Class-C RV for Christmas.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (LsBY9)

144 I think it falls under some category of willfully doing the Devil's work.Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (NMAzL)

Only if it was your devilish intention to possibly kill of some people in your home or the firefighters who came to put out the fire. I think the devil is not so interested in home cooking with non nefarious purposes. The Bible says Satan comes to "kill, steal and destroy" but it didn't mean simply Thanksgiving stupidity.


Are you and the man going somewhere or just having TG on your own?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (AllCR)

145 100 Turkey butters at thanksgiving
Tree butters at Christmas
Lamb butters at Easter
These are midwestern traditions!
Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:34 PM (fnWQo)

I've only seen the Easter lamb, I'll keep my eyes open for the others.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 18, 2018 04:43 PM (Rz2Nc)

146 Only if hell is a place of intense fire caused by stupidity in cooking turkeys. I don't recall that in any of my theology classes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:28 PM


Your professors probably leaned to the theoretical, and as one of the preeminent philosophers of the 20th Century, Peter Lawrence Berra observed, "The difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there is none, but in practice, there is."

Y'all come on over to Texas for Thanksgiving, and you'll have your pick of at least 20 or 30 intense fires resulting from attempts to deep-fry a turkey.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:43 PM (DMUuz)

147
And I cook it in the actual oven, not the microwave.

Posted by: rickl


Cook? Ooooh, master chef!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:44 PM (LsBY9)

148 139 Wegmans had the little turkey butter sculptures.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (kQs4Y)



I KNOW!!!!!!! They are adorable. And half price after Thanksgiving.

How are you doing, Eris?!

Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:44 PM (mFoNl)

149 We've been happy with Rodelle vanilla.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (S+f+m)

150 120 Eris' job to fetch the corgis
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (6VrXf)

So she's the one who left me Willowed in the last thread?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:38 PM (fDU8w)

Sorry, babies, I'm always chasing the next skwerl.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (kQs4Y)

151 I'm going to keep my eye out for one of those. My wife would like it and it would be fun to put on our table for Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:33 PM

They also make molds so you can make your own turkey butter pats. Here's one from Wally World. It's for chocolate but works for butter.

https://tinyurl.com/y8m7oehv

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (Dhht7)

152 After reading this thread, I'm starting to think I was some kind of weirdo because I cooked all the time when I was single.

Make a large meal, leftovers for lunch the next day.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (WEBkv)

153 The 165 F number is premised on the idea that the food cooks for basically no time at all. That temp is sufficient to incinerate bacteria--and most of the flavor--almost instantly.
Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 04:22 PM (S+f+m)

That must be why all deep-fried foods are so tasteless and disgusting.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (fDU8w)

154 My wife's cousin passed away yesterday. On the bright side, having to go to my Mother-in-Laws for Thanksgiving is cancelled. This will be the first time since 1988 that we haven't made to trek to the armpit of Alabama.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (yQpMk)

155 The funny thing about brussel sprouts is depending on how you make them they can be incredibly savory, incredibly sweet or neutral in taste and act like a palette cleanser.

I often have brussel sprouts in my main menus and usually make enough during the holidays so that pretty much everyone can eat their weights worth if they want to.

Gin Gimlets also help.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (qxq6t)

156 Cheribebe, mmmm :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:45 PM (miE9U)

157 Y'all come on over to Texas for Thanksgiving, and you'll have your pick of at least 20 or 30 intense fires resulting from attempts to deep-fry a turkey.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:43 PM (DMUuz)


Open, or in a pressure cooker?

https://stoatnet.org/kitchenremodel.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (t+qrx)

158 She replied I was a rat bastard for not getting her a Class-C RV for Christmas.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (LsBY9)


Phtttt. You should spring for the Class A. A Prevost, daggone it.

Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (mFoNl)

159 On the down side, always good eats at the MiL's Thanksgiving spread.

It will be missed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (yQpMk)

160 That should be Lawrence Peter Berra.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (DMUuz)

161 Okay gravy makers; what do you use?
Arrowroot?
Cornstarch?
Flour/roux?
Cream, potato water and/or stock?

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (fnWQo)

162 112 Damn that's some fine cover art on The Deplorable Gourmet.

There are drawings on the inside, too.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:37 PM (fuK7c)
---------
Yeah! Its a cookbook and an art book! Buy one today! Black Friday pricing is now in effect - only $14.99!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (MVjcR)

163 I NEVER use the microwave to defrost meat. EXCEPT, I had to. What a great surprise. I used the defrost button. It wanted the weight of the item. I entered it (It took me several attempts to get that right). Voila! Perfectly defrosted meat. It's not all full power with pauses. It must be a lower output mode.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM (3HNOQ)

164 I was raised to cook the turkey empty not for reasons of salmonella, but for even cooking. Empty cavity (not counting loose veggies and garlic) lets heat in the inside.

Full cavity makes the heat all come in from the outside.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (fuK7c)

165 Nelson has finally conceded the Florida senate race to Rick Scott.

Posted by: DocJ at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (IbD2v)

166 Weasel, are you and bluebell taking recipes for Deplorable Cookbook II?

Because if so, I think I would have one or two recipes to share.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (miE9U)

167 Pumpkin, because you have to. Turtle pie, because you want to.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (lwiT4)

(sobs unconsolably)

Posted by: Gamera at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (fDU8w)

168 Okay gravy makers; what do you use?




Heinz has gravy in a jar. I think I have one around here somewhere.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (lwiT4)

169 Well, I guess that news is 2-hours old, but for whatever reason I only just now saw it on DC. Carry on.

Posted by: DocJ at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (IbD2v)

170 > It's not all full power with pauses. It must be a lower output mode.

Yeah, defrost mode on microwaves is lower power.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (vOkuK)

171 JAS, I just got a new microwave and it asks the same thing, how many ounces are you defrosting.

You enter it, and it actually does a good job. Me thinks micronuke tech is getting a little better these days...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (miE9U)

172 My firefighter brother loved making deep-fried turkey when we were invited over for Thanksgiving and insisted that peanut oil was the only right kind. While it made for a moist turkey produced with plenty of entertaining antics in the back yard, the drawback was NO GRAVY!!! I ask you, how can there be turkey with NO GRAVY? Gotta have my gravy, that's the whole point! I blamed this blasphemy on the SIL, who's a humorless vegan (I suppose we should have been grateful that she even allowed any meat in their house).

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (CIkpt)

173 Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:36 PM (HKPap)

Symbiotic Colony Of Bacteria & Yeast. It's the "mushroom" that causes kombucha to be called mushroom tea.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (uquGJ)

174 Open, or in a pressure cooker?

https://stoatnet.org/kitchenremodel.jpg
Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 04:46 PM


Generally open. The lid embedded in the ceiling in the picture is a nice touch, though!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (DMUuz)

175 I wonder if food safety varies by an individual's genetics? Like if someone had a really acidic stomach, they could safely cook turkey or pork at much lower temps. It would be hard to test though without inducing vomiting, so probably not worth it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM (/qEW2)

176 I've got my traditional Swanson's Hungry Man turkey dinner, so I'm ready for Thanksgiving.

And I cook it in the actual oven, not the microwave.
Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (sdi6R)

Fancy, fancy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (GBteo)

177 Y'all come on over to Texas for Thanksgiving, and you'll have your pick of at least 20 or 30 intense fires resulting from attempts to deep-fry a turkey.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:43 PM (DMUuz)
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And yet, there are plenty of youtube videos wherein the turkey chef is deep frying well down the driveway away from any structures.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (WEBkv)

178 And I cook it in the actual oven, not the microwave.
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Talk about old skool. And here I am, still not allowed to use the oven without supervision.

Kidlet and I are planning our Thanksgiving breakfast foods so she and siblings can hit the sales in time. Then I can go to back to bed and ignore everything.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (MIKMs)

179 tankascribe, try some good ol' Heinz turkey gravy :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (miE9U)

180 How are you doing, Eris?!
Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:44 PM (mFoNl)

I'm doing well, thanks. I'm itching to start cooking!

I finally sorted through all the recipes I cut out and printed and promptly forgot. I think I use about 5 of them. I'm putting them into protective sheets in a binder.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (kQs4Y)

181
123 Scuttlebutt continues to circulate that bluebell and Weasel are at work on Volume II of TDG.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:39 PM (DMUuz)
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Are you trying to get me killed?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM (MVjcR)

182 Troll-B-GonTM

* Doesn't work

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM (FhXTo)

183 My daughter just gave me an early Xmas present. She
asked me to help her in stocking her bar with good but not extravagant
liquor. This is right up my alley. The only thing better would be doing
the same thing for my bar.


Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 04:05 PM (T6t7i)

Yes it is a wonderful thing when your children are wealthier than you.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM (3HNOQ)

184 Look it wont even c+p the TM

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM (FhXTo)

185 CBD, Be ready to throw the turkey to the dogs and take the microwave to goodwill, and thanks for the brussells sprouts/bacon reminder, don't forget to add mushrooms.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 04:51 PM (zLDYs)

186 I forgot to say I do this to have a shit ton of gravy...hate not having enough gravy.
Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:41 PM (cF8AT)

Making turkey neck gravy ahead of time has made the Thanksgiving feast less stressful. Then I make a fresh batch for the leftovers.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:51 PM (NMAzL)

187 Passing this along from Tami this morning as a yummy idea for gluten-vegetarian friendly side: Maple-Dijon Brussels Leaf Salad

https://tinyurl.com/yahtzvlt

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 04:51 PM (W+vEI)

188 Weren't Brussel Sprouts genetically engineered to poison vermin? Unfortunately, the French got a hold on them, and so here we are.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 04:51 PM (Z9C5C)

189 https://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/lime-rickey
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:35 PM (miE9U)

So basically a gin Margarita. (brightens up a little)

Posted by: Gamera at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (fDU8w)

190 Gotta have my gravy, that's the whole point! I blamed this blasphemy on the SIL, who's a humorless vegan (I suppose we should have been grateful that she even allowed any meat in their house).
Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:48 PM


??? The drippings from tofurkey make a fine accompaniment.

Posted by: Why yes I'm a Vegan, Why do you ask? at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (DMUuz)

191 Gotta take off for now - meeting publius' parents for dinner. Pray for me.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (NMAzL)

192
I finally sorted through all the recipes I cut out and printed and promptly forgot. I think I use about 5 of them. I'm putting them into protective sheets in a binder.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:49 PM (kQs4Y)



And standing, front and center and proud, will be the banana cranberry candelabra, yes??!!

Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (mFoNl)

193 Turkey neck gravy?

Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (lwiT4)

194 I've deep fried, plain roasted, brined, spachcocked and the for the last 2 years used a roasting bag to cook a turkey.

Everyone likes different methods but for me the bag wins hands down. Evenly cooked, can still make gravy and seems to cook faster.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (cF8AT)

195 Posted by: DocJ at November 18, 2018 04:48

I went to FoxNews and have a pic of Nelson up that looks like a human being!

Posted by: Farmer at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (T5tjg)

196 qdpsteve, may G-d strike you dead for such a blasphemous suggestion! (gasps) That store-bought crap is only good for stretching the good stuff two days afterward (disdainful sniff).

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (CIkpt)

197 Brussels sprouts are Satan's dingleberries.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (NWiLs)

198 166 Weasel, are you and bluebell taking recipes for Deplorable Cookbook II?

Because if so, I think I would have one or two recipes to share.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:47 PM (miE9U)
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bluebell has made it very clear that I would die slowly from puncture wounds if I ever talk about another cookbook.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (MVjcR)

199 I wonder if food safety varies by an individual's genetics? Like if someone had a really acidic stomach, they could safely cook turkey or pork at much lower temps.


I don't know if it's nature or nurture but I can eat old and "off" foods without any reaction worse than the occasional ... err .. loose shits. Growing up, we just cut the mold off and ate whatever.

On the other hand, Mrs928 has a surprisingly sensitive stomach.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (yQpMk)

200 Are you and the man going somewhere or just having TG on your own?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:42 PM (AllCR)

No firm plans, but I'm off the hook as far as making the dinner this year.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (NMAzL)

201 You always have the pluck to make gravy with.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (yQpMk)

202 tankascribe and Weasel, never mind then :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (miE9U)

203 And standing, front and center and proud, will be the banana cranberry candelabra, yes??!!
Posted by: moki at November 18, 2018 04:52 PM (mFoNl)
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I need to make that the cover picture! Thanks for the idea.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (kQs4Y)

204 Wonder if my local Popeye's will have the fried turkey?

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (HKPap)

205 > Weren't Brussel Sprouts genetically engineered to poison vermin?

I remember that way back when, France had only short-range nuclear missiles, so they were basically only capable of nuking the hell out of Belgium.

Someone at the time observed that this might've been in retaliation for inventing Brussels Sprouts.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (vOkuK)

206 I'd have to think a turkey cooked that way would be horrible. In general, a microwave doesn't do a good job cooking meat properly.

Heating, yes, cooking, no. I'd expect something the texture of an inner tube.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (oVJmc)

207 Making turkey neck gravy ahead of time has made the Thanksgiving feast less stressful. Then I make a fresh batch for the leftovers.

Miley, got a recipe for that? I'd like to try it!

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (CIkpt)

208 It's the end of an era in Famiglia Bander. Mommy has always hosted Thanksgiving, but at 84 it's too much and we're all meeting at a restaurant.

I offered to do the cooking* but she claimed that the other aging relatives didn't want to travel either and the restaurant was the better part of valour. So now it's down to my cousin Kathy who hosts Christmas to keep the family together.

*(There was one year when Mommy had just had a surgery and I got to cook everything. I thought it was great, she'd just be in the bedroom and I'd call out when dinner was served. Instead she ensconced herself in a comfy chair in the corner of the kitchen and called out criticisms of every move I made. Then complimented me when everything came out perfect. Am I oversharing?)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (fuK7c)

209 202 tankascribe and Weasel, never mind then :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:54 PM (miE9U)
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But hold onto them just In case.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (MVjcR)

210 Are you trying to get me killed?
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM


Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox.

Between that, and the fact that bluebell is one of the finest ladies I had the pleasure to meet at the TXMoMe, you'll be fine.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)

211 No firm plans, but I'm off the hook as far as making the dinner this year.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (NMAzL)

Way to go!. Congrats! I've been together with FenSpouse since 1987 I don't get a reprieve from cooking. LOL He did say he would help and we're not having many people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (AllCR)

212 Bander, do you cook Thanksgiving dinner in a sarong too?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM (kQs4Y)

213 My youngest turned 31 today. He requested garish socks for his present.

Apparently that is a thing where he works. LOUD and OUTRAGEOUS socks.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM (yQpMk)

214 **TOP FIVE RECIPES FROM DEPLORABLE COOKBOOK II**

5. Cornish game hen stuffed with missing Broward ballots

4. Peruvian bathtub "whiskey"

3. Caravan Road Chili, with secret migrant spices

2. Deep-fried roadkill, Mexican-style

1. Spatcocked Sinema Surprise

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM (miE9U)

215 Bander, do you cook Thanksgiving dinner in a sarong too?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM


You're foreshadowing a musical, aren't you?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:58 PM (DMUuz)

216 A thread on another forum got into a discussion of booze, mostly whisky, used in the colonies and early America. That brought up Pusser's Rum. It's supposed to be the same recipe the British Navy served on board ship for over 300 years. The Brits discontinued the daily ration in the 1970s and someone bought the rights to make it for the public.

I'm no expert but this is a very good sipping rum. It has a slight smoky quality to go with the sweetness of dark rum It is smooth and 84 proof so it won't singe your throat. I'm going to add it to the boozes I enjoy.

BTW, Pusser is a corruption of 'purser', the one who dispensed the liquor on board ship.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 04:58 PM (758Rh)

217 Oops, that should be spatchcocked.

But, spatcocked is funnier...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 04:58 PM (miE9U)

218 My contribution, as usual, is the perfect can-shaped cylinder of cranberry sauce for admiration; and the real sauce from cranberries and sugar simmered down to pour over vanilla ice cream after the main social obligations are done. Only sauce I can reliably make and it also works for Christmas.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (MIKMs)

219 When making pecan pie, add a tablespoon of bourbon to the filling. You're welcome.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (gC2IV)

220 Apparently that is a thing where he works. LOUD and OUTRAGEOUS socks.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM (yQpMk)


Ben Roethlisberger?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (t+qrx)

221 Miley, got a recipe for that? I'd like to try it!

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (CIkpt)


Just search 'make ahead gravy'. There are many recipes out there for it.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (cF8AT)

222 Am I oversharing?)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 04:55 PM (fuK7c)

No; I point it out when I think it's probably too much personal-and I do stress "personal" sharing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (AllCR)

223 >>Pumpkin, because you have to. Turtle pie, because you want to.


Never liked regular pumpkin pie that much, but my aunt always made a frozen pumpkin chiffon pie w/gingersnap crust and man oh man, that's tasty! I use this Libby's filling recipe here and make my own crust (but bought graham cracker crust is great, too):

https://www.verybestbaking.com/recipes/28202/
easy-pumpkin-cream-pie/

Super easy!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 04:59 PM (W+vEI)

224 No microwave. No iron.
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One of my favorite Bob Marley songs.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 05:00 PM (Rxduq)

225 bluebell has made it very clear that I would die slowly from puncture wounds if I ever talk about another cookbook.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM (MVjcR)
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Shoot, I would think that with all the experience you and bluebell have, you should be able to get TDG part II together in two weeks.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:01 PM (WEBkv)

226 Between that, and the fact that bluebell is one of the finest ladies I had the pleasure to meet at the TXMoMe, you'll be fine.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)
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I think her exact words were that I'd "beg for the sweet release of death" or something to that effect. She's skerry!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:01 PM (MVjcR)

227 I gained a half pound just opening this post.

It would have been a full pound but brussels sprouts.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 18, 2018 05:02 PM (Z4rgH)

228 173. Oooh, Sciencey! I figured the 'Y' was for yeast but never would have gotten the rest. Thanks again, can't wait to get started.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:02 PM (HKPap)

229 Just FYI everyone, agreed about brussels sprouts.

There's some foods that should be demoted to "food-like substances."

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 05:02 PM (miE9U)

230
Shoot, I would think that with all the experience you and bluebell have, you should be able to get TDG part II together in two weeks.
Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:01 PM (WEBkv)
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She did all the work. Really! I just made a few phone calls.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:02 PM (MVjcR)

231 Phtttt. You should spring for the Class A. A Prevost, daggone it.
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oooooo, a Prevost... That's my retirement dream, to travel the country in style in a Prevost but I'd settle for a newer Tiffin...

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (kufk0)

232 Wow! Thanks, Tami! Where has this been all my life? My mom wasn't much of a cook, and I didn't start to really get into cooking/baking until after retirement, so I'm continually playing catch-up. Much to the vast mirth of my cookin' friends.

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (CIkpt)

233 I wouldn't have the vaguest idea as to how to deep fry a turkey. It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (AllCR)

234 oooooo, a Prevost... That's my retirement dream, to travel the country in style in a Prevost but I'd settle for a newer Tiffin...
Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (kufk0)
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I'm trying to see if I can get the numbers to work so my wife and I can buy a class A RV this next year so we can travel after I retire.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:05 PM (WEBkv)

235 I wouldn't have the vaguest idea as to how to deep fry a turkey. It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (AllCR)

I think the store-boughten turkey fryer setups come with instructions.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 05:05 PM (fDU8w)

236 I don't even like turkey cooked the regular way, much less in a microwave.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:05 PM (DjIXP)

237 Done the microwave turkey thing a couple of years ago. Make sure it's completely thawed. Depending on size its 20 min on high and then 90 on half power. It needs to be breast side down for most of that time and then flip it over. May need to cover too edged of legs and wings with foil (it reflects the waves) otherwise they'll turn to something like plastic. Let it rest for 10 minutes or so. Internal temp to 165. Keep adding time at half power until temp reached if needed. You won't get a crispy brown skin in the microwave but you can pop it under the broiler for that.

Posted by: CDG at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (x0r9/)

238 Finally back from the MNL's.
Checking in.
Now I'm hungry.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (0tfLf)

239 "It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

ISWYDT

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DjIXP)

240 I think her exact words were that I'd "beg for the sweet release of death" or something to that effect. She's skerry!
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:01 PM


Nate Silver says there's an 86.4377% chance she's bluffing.

In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the bowls down, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DMUuz)

241 > It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Most important part: Archimedes' Principle is a thing.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (vOkuK)

242 >>A thread on another forum got into a discussion of booze, mostly whisky, used in the colonies and early America. That brought up Pusser's Rum. It's supposed to be the same recipe the British Navy served on board ship for over 300 years. The Brits discontinued the daily ration in the 1970s and someone bought the rights to make it for the public.

Puser's main operation is in Tortola where they have a nice little pub that unsurprisingly makes the best Painkiller. They purchased Marina Cay not to long ago which is a personal favorite and some of the best snorkeling in the Caribbean but sadly I think it could destroyed in the hurricane.

Very good rum for sipping particularly under a Caribbean sky.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM (/tuJf)

243 I wouldn't have the vaguest idea as to how to deep fry a turkey. It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.


Otherwise they might come a cropper.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM (yQpMk)

244 239 "It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

ISWYDT
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DjIXP)
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Are we calling fowl on that comment?

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM (WEBkv)

245 "In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe
kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the
most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the
bowls down, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax"

You named your kitten Ace also?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (DjIXP)

246 Just Google vanilla beans and get them bulk price. I might get more, much cheaper than store bought.

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (6VrXf)

247 Pecan pie is not one of those things I ever look for; it's like baclava: too sweet. But I really like the texture of pecan pie.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (H5knJ)

248 >>It's the end of an era in Famiglia Bander. Mommy has always hosted Thanksgiving, but at 84 it's too much and we're all meeting at a restaurant.



Aw, that's rough! I've done two family thanks giving at restaurants when a key member was ill, and while it is lovely to have a hug buffet and no work, the no leftovers part makes it seem incomplete. Where's my leftover pie for breakfast?! My day after Thanksgiving tradition/indulgence...

Posted by: Lizzy at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (W+vEI)

249 225 bluebell has made it very clear that I would die slowly from puncture wounds if I ever talk about another cookbook.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:53 PM


Hmmmm. When I met her in Virginia awhile back, she pretty much said the same fate would befall any who volunteered her name again.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM (0tfLf)

250 90
We make our own vanilla, a few beans split down center and a small
bottle of vodka. Takes a good month but after that you will not run out
for years. Just replenished a few beans and vodka after maybe 10 years.



Hmmmm. I don't know about flavored vodka, although I do have some Madagascar vanilla beans I got from Penzey's before I realized the boss, who inherited the business, is a leftist a***ole.


Yes it is a wonderful thing when your children are wealthier than you.


Posted by: JAS


At her age, I was still in grad school, and didn't drink much of anything besides cheap wine. She's already making almost as much money as I do at the end of my career, and since I know a bit about booze, I'm happy to tell her what I've learned. Plus, best Christmas shopping trip EVAR!

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (T6t7i)

251 Tonight is spinach, hard boiled eggs, salmon salad, walnuts, cranberries and homemade lemon vinagrette with shallots and thyme.

Mmm. Canned fish.

Posted by: Han Solo at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (EZebt)

252 Well. I won a turkey at the KoC turkey bingo. Just couldn't keep my mouth shut. Had to scream BINGO in the first game. I got the same Butterball that I donated. So, technically, I didn't donate anything. I did make a cash contribution to the Charity Jar. Now. What to do with the turkey. I already am planning "Festive Pork Loin" for Thursday.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (3HNOQ)

253 As for pecan pie, you have to treat it as if it were candy --- which it pretty much is. A tiny slice is enough.

I like to cut a half-inch slice and put it on a scoop of ice cream.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (Rxduq)

254 232 Wow! Thanks, Tami! Where has this been all my life? My mom wasn't much of a cook, and I didn't start to really get into cooking/baking until after retirement, so I'm continually playing catch-up. Much to the vast mirth of my cookin' friends.

Posted by: tankascribe at November 18, 2018 05:03 PM (CIkpt)

It's life changing. What I described @ 124 is the first part of the make ahead gravy.

I'll strain everything from the stockpot, make a roux then start adding the stock I made and season it as I go. (Can be frozen for up to 3 months.)

I will still make gravy from the turkey drippings and then add the pre-made gravy to it.

Gravy-palooza!

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (cF8AT)

255 244 239 "It seems like someone one would need instruction instead of just winging it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

ISWYDT
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DjIXP)
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Are we calling fowl on that comment?

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM



Don't be peckish.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 05:10 PM (0tfLf)

256 In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the bowls down, as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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That's too funny. Our kitten Bleu also eats out of our dogs bowl. She can usually only get a few pieces down before the dog inhales the rest. And I was worried about the dog hurting the kitten over food... the kitten will just sit in the dog bowl and the dog will try to eat around her.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:10 PM (kufk0)

257 In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the bowls down, as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DMUuz)


That's the best. Entitled, demanding kittens are so entertaining. It's amazing how much assertiveness and attitude can fit into the approximate volume of a potato with a tail.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 05:10 PM (t+qrx)

258 Actually I have gotten a reprieve from cooking. A couple of times different friends invited us over but they never repeated the invitations so we must have been deplorable (before the word recently)became a good thing) guests. A couple of people died rather than invite us over again, I suspect (They died before TG) Once we went out, though, and I enjoyed that and we're still allowed back in the restaurant..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:10 PM (AllCR)

259 Colonial spirits . . .

You can buy Applejack for a very reasonable price. Basically the calvadoes of the colonies. Really enjoyable.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 05:11 PM (H5knJ)

260 You named your kitten Ace also?
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:08 PM


Well, her full name is "Ace of Spades-Ben Had", but "Ace" is her sietch name.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:11 PM (DMUuz)

261 Cider brining the turkey and spatchcocking it again this year. Will roast it on a bed of onion, apple and celery.
Mashed spuds, gravy, homemade cranberry relish, green beans and sweet potato casserole. I raised the sweet potatoes. Only 3 of us this year. We're going to eat very, very well.
And of course pumpkin pie. Recipe off the Libby can with extra amounts of the spices.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 18, 2018 05:11 PM (N3JsI)

262 "Don't be peckish.

Posted by: Diogenes"

I think we're going to get a flock of comments on this one.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (DjIXP)

263 It is a blessing that none of my kids live at home. The all have spouses and children. The youngest is 36.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (3HNOQ)

264 Bander, do you cook Thanksgiving dinner in a sarong too?




Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 04:57 PM




There's a mental image I can do without.



*Waves at Bander*

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (tT986)

265
In other caloric-consumption news, Ace, the TXMoMe kitten, now lines up with the 4 dogs to get fed. She is becoming the most vociferous at complaining about the lack of celerity in putting the bowls down, as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:06 PM (DMUuz)
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Thanks for the update on Ace, Duncanthrax. Can we get a picture sometime? I was looking at one of WeaselWoman holding him today.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (MVjcR)

266 In looking into the gluten free breadfruit or taro options for stuffing, I came across a recipe for "Moroccan pumpkin pie" which is just replacing the molasses with pureed dates. Sounds good actually

Posted by: Total Control Racist at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM (z2W2E)

267 "Well, her full name is "Ace of Spades-Ben Had", but "Ace" is her sietch name.

Posted by: Duncanthrax"

Mines named for Ace from KISS. Gets in about as much trouble too.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 18, 2018 05:13 PM (DjIXP)

268 It's the end of an era in Famiglia Bander. Mommy has always hosted Thanksgiving, but at 84 it's too much and we're all meeting at a restaurant.


Isn't that wonderful you still have a mom to celebrate TG with. My last TG with mom was 1982.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:13 PM (AllCR)

269 There was a girl who was a roommate my senior year in college who was a pecan pie savant.

She couldn't really do much else competently, but her pecan pies were incredible. Perfect consistency and balance of caramel sweet to salty nuts, every time.

Posted by: Han Solo at November 18, 2018 05:14 PM (EZebt)

270 Sock off

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2018 05:14 PM (EZebt)

271 I'm trying to see if I can get the numbers to work so my wife and I can buy a class A RV this next year so we can travel after I retire.
Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:05 PM (WEBkv)
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Drive around some RV parks and take a look at the folks there. Since the housing meltdown in 2009 there are a lot of people living in RV's in those parks and some of them are not the kind of people you are going to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.

My wife and I bought an RV a few years ago and made one trip in it. Got back home and sold it and ate a big loss. Did not care for the parks, the people in the parks or the management in most parks.

Posted by: Willie Brown at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (B3kya)

272 251 Tonight is spinach, hard boiled eggs, salmon salad, walnuts, cranberries and homemade lemon vinagrette with shallots and thyme.

Posted by: Han Solo at November 18, 2018 05:09 PM (EZebt)
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Time?
Address?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (Rxduq)

273 There's a mental image I can do without.


*Waves at Bander*

Posted by: Vendette



*waves back*

I rock a sarong. I bet you do, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (fuK7c)

274 Probably the biggest mistake people make when frying a turkey...well 2 mistakes really. Not pre-measuring with water to see how much oil they'll need. If you put in too much, it will overflow when you put the turkey in and then...well fire in the hole!

Also, believe it or not, some people don't defrost the turkey enough before they put it in the fryer...water meets hot oil.

I think Alton Brown had a whole video on how to do it correctly...and it's amusing.

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (cF8AT)

275
If you do a slow cook method for turkey how long do you cook it and at what temperature?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 04:18 PM


I'm a believer in fast cook based on weight of bird, then set oven to a 'keep warm' temperature for hours on end. The entire house smells wonderful and guests dig in with gusto.

The only warnings are the turkey must be kept hydrated with water and white wine to keep it from drying out. Since I cook small it's usually a seven pound bird which fits inside a Dutch oven easily.

Like Bander, no stuffing inside the bird. Messes with even cooking.

Posted by: Gradually, Then Suddenly at November 18, 2018 05:15 PM (e7O7B)

276 Drive around some RV parks and take a look at the folks there. Since
the housing meltdown in 2009 there are a lot of people living in RV's in
those parks and some of them are not the kind of people you are going
to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.



I have it on good authority that a $100 bill dragged through a trailer park will result in much happiness.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:16 PM (T6t7i)

277 >>>There's some foods that should be demoted to "food-like substances."<<<

It's interesting how some people attribute the flavor of soap to cilantro, - if one were to characterize the flavor of Brussel sprouts, I'm imagining it's akin to cleaning your automotive battery posts with your tongue.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 05:17 PM (Z9C5C)

278 Drive around some RV parks and take a look at the folks there. Since
the housing meltdown in 2009 there are a lot of people living in RV's in
those parks and some of them are not the kind of people you are going
to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.


Did it consist of 500 rococo and utterly unnecessary steps?

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:17 PM (T6t7i)

279 Isn't that wonderful you still have a mom to celebrate TG with. My last TG with mom was 1982.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke



Oh, condolences Fen. That's a good long time ago.

I keep trying to explain demographics to my Mom. She's in very good health other than aches and pains. I tell her that at her age everything that kills people her age has already killed them and there's no real "life expectancy" any more.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:18 PM (fuK7c)

280 Well, that didn't work at all. Should have been:
[iI think Alton Brown had a whole video on how to do it correctly...and it's amusing.

Did it consist of 500 rococo and utterly unnecessary steps?

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:18 PM (T6t7i)

281 When I was little, grandma and grandpa did Thanksgiving. When grandpa died, my dad took over the cooking and grandma just had to clean the silver, etc with help from grandkids. Dad would cook Thanksgiving and just haul all the dishes over to wherever we were having it that year. When dad died, brother-in-law took over the cooking. He died a few months ago, so we are not having the big dinner any more. One of the nephews will do Christmas, but for Thanksgiving we are all on our own. Nota bene, nobody has ever asked me to cook anything; my job was the perfect can-shaped cranberry 'sauce' and lotsa booze.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 18, 2018 05:19 PM (MIKMs)

282 It's interesting how some people attribute the flavor of soap to
cilantro, - if one were to characterize the flavor of Brussel sprouts,
I'm imagining it's akin to cleaning your automotive battery posts with
your tongue.



No, I find that a DieHard has an insouciant puckishness. Brussels Sprouts just suck.

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (T6t7i)

283 Wife convinced me to try smoking our turkey this year. I've smoked pork, ribs, chicken and brisket but never a turkey.

Won't help that its going to be a high of 28'F and snowing when I try it. Thankfully I upgraded to the dual burner vertical propane smoker earlier this year so I can maintain 225'F even in these cold conditions.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (kI/3T)

284 Fermented foods are great!
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I'll take a pass on the Icelandic shark.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (XXadE)

285 It's interesting how some people attribute the flavor of soap to cilantro...
Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 05:17 PM (Z9C5C)

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This is due to a known genetic mutation present in about 10% of the population.

It makes for easy identification.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (EZebt)

286 Speaking of Alton Brown and brussels sprouts, if you have the Cooking Channel the brussels sprouts episode of Good Eats starts in 7 minutes.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 05:20 PM (tT986)

287 Did it consist of 500 rococo and utterly unnecessary steps?

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2018 05:18 PM (T6t7i)


Lol!

Here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/y8zhwyvg

Posted by: Tami at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (cF8AT)

288 Rumors flying around Twatter that there's some sort of coup underway in Haiti. Supposedly U.S. troops have seized control of the Port-au-Prince airport, and the U.S. Embassy has reportedly urged that all Americans leave rural areas immediately, and those in urban areas "shelter in place".

Today is "Battle of Vertières Day", a patriotic holiday in Haiti.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (vOkuK)

289 >>>Are we calling fowl on that comment?<<<

Some puns, like other folks gravy, are just offal.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (Z9C5C)

290 Drive around some RV parks and take a look at the folks there. Since the housing meltdown in 2009 there are a lot of people living in RV's in those parks and some of them are not the kind of people you are going to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.

My wife and I bought an RV a few years ago and made one trip in it. Got back home and sold it and ate a big loss. Did not care for the parks, the people in the parks or the management in most parks.
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Well, to be honest there is a huge difference between a class A motorhome and the various classes of towables. We have had both and our current class A is 15 plus years old so we are the "trailer trash" of the motorhome world. It is a different lifestyle and not for everyone. The upper end class A's are a whole different world...one I've only seen and heard about. When you drive around million dollar motorhomes you aren't generally staying in walmart parking lots.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (kufk0)

291 261. yum.I believe I must come and sit at your holiday table.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:22 PM (HKPap)

292 My wife ordered three cookbooks as Christmas gifts after friends asked where we got ours. Really is a good cookbook.

Posted by: Agitator at November 18, 2018 05:22 PM (atO6j)

293 FenelonSpoke, I have never stuffed a turkey. My family makes dressing instead. That's just how we do it. This year, my folks are coming out to us. My mom has to make the rolls because I am not even close to the baker she is. I think I am switching out the pumpkin pie with a pumpkin dump cake. I'm the only one who really loves the pie. I think I can survive with only apple and pecan.

Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 05:23 PM (1uG1d)

294 > some of them are not the kind of people you are going to want to enjoy living next to in your retirement.

Err... isn't the whole point of an RV that if you don't like where you are, you can move somewhere else?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:24 PM (vOkuK)

295 M'kay, whoever thought of the Pusser's Rum I say mucho gracias. Gotta have some of that here in the compound for medicinal purposes.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 05:25 PM (zLDYs)

296 269 There was a girl who was a roommate my senior year in college who was a pecan pie savant.

She couldn't really do much else competently, but her pecan pies were incredible. Perfect consistency and balance of caramel sweet to salty nuts, every time.
Posted by: Han Solo at November 18, 2018 05:14 PM (EZebt)
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This is a bizarre phenomenon, isn't it?
My mother is a terrible cook, just awful, but no one can match her flan or her pecan cookies. Absolute perfection on those 2 items.

I've got her recipes, I've watched her every move making the stuff, but I only ....come close. Weird.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 18, 2018 05:25 PM (Rxduq)

297 Since both Pere naturalfake and Mere naturalfake have joined the Choir Eternal,

it's hard(impossible) to get all the family together for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

My brother and I used to takeover the cooking of Christmas dinner.

It was always a great amount of fun.

Maybe I'll try to work a Christmas goose into our Christmas.

If you haven't tried Christmas goose, you must try it at least once.

And goose-fat roasted potatoes are the Yummiest Potatoes in the Universe!.

Maybe I'll sneak in French Carrot Crecy Soup too.

That by the way is the Yummiest Winter Vegetable Christmas Soup!

Hmmmmmm.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 18, 2018 05:25 PM (9X624)

298 I presume that both microwaving the bird as well as stuffing it carry high risk of food borne illness.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 18, 2018 05:25 PM (EZebt)

299 271. That is what hubs and I discovered; RVing has changed. There are now a lot of off the grid folks out there. I still want to see the country so I just want a big Durango or Expedition to drive and explore comfortably in and then stay at hotels to sleep.

Posted by: Cheribebe at November 18, 2018 05:27 PM (fnWQo)

300 Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 05:23 PM (1uG1d)


What is a pumpkin dump cake?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:27 PM (AllCR)

301 292 My wife ordered three cookbooks as Christmas gifts after friends asked where we got ours. Really is a good cookbook.
Posted by: Agitator at November 18, 2018 05:22 PM (atO6j)
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Thank you!! Toys for Tots and Fisher House thank you, too!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:28 PM (MVjcR)

302 > Rumors flying around Twatter that there's some sort of coup underway in Haiti.

Al-Jazeera (yeah, I know) has a story. Nothing else in the MSM yet that I can see.

https://tinyurl.com/haitiviolence

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:28 PM (vOkuK)

303 Well, to be honest there is a huge difference between a class A motorhome and the various classes of towables. We have had both and our current class A is 15 plus years old so we are the "trailer trash" of the motorhome world. It is a different lifestyle and not for everyone. The upper end class A's are a whole different world...one I've only seen and heard about. When you drive around million dollar motorhomes you aren't generally staying in walmart parking lots.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:21 PM (kufk0)

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My wife and I are thinking 30' class A, maybe 6 or 7 years old.

Not interested in Class C, as we don't care for the layout and have no use for sleeping space over the cab.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:31 PM (WEBkv)

304 A dump cake is a when you cover a filling with a yellow cake mix and pour melted butter over it and bake it. Super easy and so very tasty. https://lilluna.com/pumpkin-dump-cake-2/

Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 05:31 PM (1uG1d)

305 Whole bird is way too much for just my wife and I so this year I bought the 37 cent a pound ones and thawed them mostly out. Cut into 2 breast halves and 2 leg-thigh quarters. The rest simmered with celery, carrot, onion into a stock for dressing. Vacuum froze with thyme and butter. Pull them out of freezer and sous-vide at 147 for 4 hours or so and they're done. Skin to be crisped separate in broiler after.

Posted by: geoffb at November 18, 2018 05:32 PM (zOpu5)

306 All this holiday talk makes me crave egg nog. Off to Wawa I go. It's back on the shelves!

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:32 PM (HKPap)

307 It's not a coup in Haiti...

IT'S GODZILLA!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvyFhvtUTCk

Posted by: naturalfake at November 18, 2018 05:33 PM (9X624)

308 Well, time to eat at Che Blake!

Stay hungry, everyone!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 05:33 PM (WEBkv)

309 Blake,
We have a 2003 Tiffin Phaeton that we bought in 2010. It is 35'. We switched to a class A from a towable because of the kids. They have a lot more freedom and you aren't constantly looking for a bathroom. Plus with a 100 gallon tank you can drive all day without tanking up but when you do it can be a sticker shock.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM (kufk0)

310
Rumors flying around Twatter that there's some sort of coup underway in Haiti.

How could they tell?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM (aKsyK)

311 anyone got a good recipe for kimchee, W/O feesh stuff in it?

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM (Dagiw)

312 Bought a bottle of Riesling to pour into the bottom of the pan along with a cup of water for the turkey. Did not buy turkey. I was at Walmart and as I was checking out the turkeys, my eyes swept past three pig's heads wrapped in plastic and sitting in the cooler. I backed off. There just some things I do not wish to see even though I am no vegan.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 05:36 PM (zEo4V)

313 I followed the Al Jazeera link about Haiti, checked some foreign press, and tried the google news, and all I get is riots and protests about misuse of funds.

(Funds from Venezuela. wtf?)

Don't see anything about coup or U.S. presence.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:36 PM (fuK7c)

314 > It's not a coup in Haiti...

> IT'S GODZILLA!!!!!!

Heh... yeah, pretty much.

Border between Haiti and the Dominical Republic:

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/DsUZDBzX4AAP87z.jpg

Supposedly the protestors are upset by the government looting the country in collusion with the Clinton Crime Family.

Which explains why the MSM is ignoring this.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:37 PM (vOkuK)

315 > Don't see anything about coup or U.S. presence.

Phone videos of shooting, soldiers in the streets, etc. on Twatter.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:38 PM (vOkuK)

316 I want to like egg nog. I like dairy. I like alcohol. But I don't like egg nog. My wife drinks my share.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 05:40 PM (H5knJ)

317 Wouldn't microwaving cause the texture to be different even if the turkey reached the same temperature? Ie. wouldn't it taste like warm, raw goop as opposed to oven baked? I thought bacon was the only sort of flesh you could microwave properly.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear



No, it would be dry as particle board before it reached temp. CBD is just annoyed that no one is going to follow his unamerican lead and miss out on turkey.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 18, 2018 05:40 PM (pnMCv)

318 anyone got a good recipe for kimchee, W/O feesh stuff in it?
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM


Was just looking at the Kraut Source link CBD provided in the content above. They have a pretty traditional one on their site, w/the fish sauce optional. Sized for their quart maker; you can always scale up.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:42 PM (DMUuz)

319 My Class A MH is 42 years old.

Posted by: freakde at November 18, 2018 05:42 PM (UdKB7)

320 Pressed for time, my DIL once put raw chicken in the microwave. Horrible. Rubbery and tasted terrible. I can't see how microwaving a turkey would be a success.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 05:43 PM (zEo4V)

321 If I had the money, I think I would get a turkey fryer. I've heard so many people tell me how incredibly tasty fried turkey is.


You also need one of those 150 lb CO2 extinguishers that they have on the flight line for piston powered aircraft.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (MwFQu)

322 306 All this holiday talk makes me crave egg nog. Off to Wawa I go. It's back on the shelves!
Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:32 PM (HKPap)


Wawa? The State Store (excuse me, the "Wine and Spirits Shop") has the good stuff.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (sdi6R)

323 Posted by: no good deed at November 18, 2018 05:31 PM (1uG1d)


Thanks. Sounds good. Happy TG to you and your family!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (AllCR)

324 I hope there's no unrest in Haiti. This is always used as an excuse to import new Democrats-to-be in order to flip counties. Being a refugee should be a temporary thing, until the crisis they are seeking refuge from is over. They should always be put in a camp, and then once the conflict is over, they can be sent back to joyously return to their communities.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (/qEW2)

325 BBof F'n Joy won one of the cookbooks as a door prize at the MoMe and I never seen someone so happy.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (T1Aes)

326 William Shatner has the definitive amusing video of how not to deep fry the turkey.
Don't throw away the dingle-dangle!

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (3HNOQ)

327 I can't see how microwaving a turkey would be a success.


As weft-cut just pointed out, while CBD may be the best cob (that's the sucking up part) he is not always your friend.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:45 PM (fuK7c)

328 Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 05:07 PM (/tuJf)

I have wondered if the distillery in Cane Garden Bay survived.

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 05:46 PM (SzQWn)

329 325 BBof F'n Joy won one of the cookbooks as a door prize at the MoMe and I never seen someone so happy.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 05:44 PM (T1Aes)
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Yeah, that was great! Didn't lin-duh's second husband win the other?

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:46 PM (MVjcR)

330 > Being a refugee should be a temporary thing, until the crisis they are seeking refuge from is over.

If the "refugees" are males of military age, they should be handed a rifle and a box full of ammo, and sent back with instructions to fix the problem themselves.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 18, 2018 05:47 PM (vOkuK)

331 Weasel, yes he did.

I'm ordering 5 more to get through the Christmas season.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 05:49 PM (T1Aes)

332

I'm ordering 5 more to get through the Christmas season.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 05:49 PM (T1Aes)
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Thank you, Ben Had!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:49 PM (MVjcR)

333 Three pig's heads wrapped in plastic? That means it's tamale time!!! Yum.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 05:50 PM (S+f+m)

334 That means it's tamale time!!


Tomalley > tamale.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 18, 2018 05:51 PM (fuK7c)

335 322. I guess I drink the virgin egg nog.

Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 05:51 PM (UWzjE)

336 Thanks for the update on Ace, Duncanthrax. Can we get a picture sometime? I was looking at one of WeaselWoman holding him today.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:12 PM


I'm trying to get a reasonably good one. If I can't get a better one over Thanksgiving, I'll send one I took yesterday.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:52 PM (DMUuz)

337 how many copies of the cookbook have been sold?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 18, 2018 05:52 PM (Pg+x7)

338 333 Three pig's heads wrapped in plastic? That means it's tamale time!!! Yum.
Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at November 18, 2018 05:50 PM (S+f+m)

+++

I had no idea. I saw goat in the refrigerator case at Win Co and that threw me for a loop, too.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 05:53 PM (zEo4V)

339 That first photo makes me cringe because you are about to blow up your microwave. Supermarket turkeys usually have various metal clips and ties in place when you buy them, and of course they haven't been stuffed either.

Posted by: jdgalt at November 18, 2018 05:54 PM (3SFo/)

340 337 how many copies of the cookbook have been sold?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 18, 2018 05:52 PM (Pg+x7)
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A little over 2,400 copies and we've donated a total of $6,500 between the two charities.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:55 PM (MVjcR)

341 Are you trying to get me killed?


Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 04:50 PM


Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox.


Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)

Do that and I'll shiv you myself.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 05:56 PM (wYseH)

342 I bought the kindle version of the Deplorable Gourmet. I wish I got the hardcopy instead.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (3HNOQ)

343 Twitchy as a post up around regionally-favored sides for Thanksgiving:

https://twitchy.com/ jacobb-38/2018/11/18/ the-left-coast-has-been-disqualified -from-the-next-election-because -of-its-favorite-thanksgiving-side/

remove the spaces, or use this:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc42v9t4

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (DMUuz)

344 2,400? wow, that's damn good. congrats!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (Pg+x7)

345 I made chicken mushroom tetrazzini for lunch, but instead of pasta, I put it on a bed of cheesy risotto.

The gamble paid off, it was really good.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (5aX2M)

346 Murky

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 05:58 PM (nR2Re)

347 342 I bought the kindle version of the Deplorable Gourmet. I wish I got the hardcopy instead.
Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (3HNOQ)
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Well just mosey upthread and click on the book cover!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:58 PM (MVjcR)

348 Any hardcopies still available?

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (3HNOQ)

349 That microwaved turkey might benefit from maple syrup.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (nBr1j)

350
Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox.


Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)

Do that and I'll shiv you myself.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 05:56 PM (wYseH)
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Well this is a pickle!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (MVjcR)

351 348 Any hardcopies still available?
Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (3HNOQ)
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Yes!! Amazon makes them to order.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:00 PM (MVjcR)

352 I bought the kindle version of the Deplorable Gourmet. I wish I got the hardcopy instead.
Posted by: JAS
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Those are extremely rare.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 06:00 PM (5h/3t)

353 344 2,400? wow, that's damn good. congrats!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 18, 2018 05:57 PM (Pg+x7)
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Yep! Amazing. I remember hoping to sell 250 or so and cover the up front costs.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:02 PM (MVjcR)

354 349 That microwaved turkey might benefit from maple syrup.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (nBr1j)

+++

I think CBD pulls our chains on some subjects and never fesses up.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 06:02 PM (zEo4V)

355 Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 05:46 PM (SzQWn)
No recipe. I know about how much flour I want to use, and I just dump the starter into about half of it, along with some salt. Then I mix and knead and add more flour and stop and let it rest and repeat until I like the texture. Then I let it rest, covered, for about three hours and then try not to burn the shit out of myself when I transfer it to the hot dutch oven!
I'll poke around and see if I can find a good recipe, but the ones I have used are pretty much guidelines and not hard and fast.
Dough is a bitch.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 06:02 PM (wYseH)

356 If the "refugees" are males of military age, they should be handed a rifle and a box full of ammo, and sent back with instructions to fix the problem themselves.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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The 10-15 thousand Hondurans should have been marching on the capital.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 18, 2018 06:03 PM (nR2Re)

357 It's always tamale time!

Posted by: Little Lupe at November 18, 2018 06:03 PM (Tyii7)

358 351 348 Any hardcopies still available?
Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (3HNOQ)
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Yes!! Amazon makes them to order.
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:00 PM (MVjcR)
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And they're extremely rare. Jump if you find Amazon has them in stock.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:04 PM (MVjcR)

359 Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox.





Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM (DMUuz)





Do that and I'll shiv you myself.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 05:56 PM (wYseH)



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Well this is a pickle!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM (MVjcR)


Remember that Bluebell knows where you live.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 06:04 PM (tT986)

360 I think CBD pulls our chains on some subjects and never fesses up.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 18, 2018 06:02 PM (zEo4V)

Never.

I have no sense of humor...just ask the people who have met me!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 06:04 PM (wYseH)

361

Remember that Bluebell knows where you live.
Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 06:04 PM (tT986)
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WeaselDog will protect me!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:05 PM (MVjcR)

362 Weasel

How are the sales of the cookbook doing? I take it the Eastern European knockoff is hurting EU sales?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:06 PM (hyuyC)

363 362 Weasel

How are the sales of the cookbook doing? I take it the Eastern European knockoff is hurting EU sales?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:06 PM (hyuyC)
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I doubt the rip off site is hurting us too much. Sales are predominantly in the U.S. but every now and then we sell one or two in Europe. Sales now are around 10-15 copies (paper and ebook) total per month.

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:09 PM (MVjcR)

364 Dough is a bitch.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018


It is. Maybe I haven't been letting it rise long enough. 3 hours seems long. Will try again next wknd.

Posted by: Infidel at November 18, 2018 06:09 PM (SzQWn)

365 Pro Tip:

Do not anger bluebell. Underneath her smiling, classy exterior is the heart of a stone-cold killer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:10 PM (hyuyC)

366 Profess your undying love and affection for the Boston Red Sox. Posted by:
Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 04:56 PM

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Do that and I'll shiv you myself.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 18, 2018 05:56 PM

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Well this is a pickle!
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 05:59 PM


No need to act like a sour Kraut. Instead, negotiate like Donny Two-Scoops.

Acknowledge the mastery with which the Sox dealt with the Yankees this year.

Simultaneously, forswear any usage of maple syrup on Toast Quebecois.

TDC II. It'll be yuge! Luxurious!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 18, 2018 06:10 PM (DMUuz)

367 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 04:17 PM (LsBY9)

What are soup greens?

Posted by: clutch at November 18, 2018 06:10 PM (kiSdp)

368 Youtube seems to have blown up again.

Posted by: Off the reservation at November 18, 2018 06:12 PM (vWMNq)

369


DOUGH!

Posted by: Homer Simpson at November 18, 2018 06:13 PM (aKsyK)

370 Howdy folks!

Just back from Columbus where several of us (including a *VERY* special guest) celebrated someone's birthday.

If you followed my BSU's, then you'll want to tune-in to tonight's ONT.

Oh, we had wings, too (see: food-related!)

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 06:14 PM (vUcdz)

371 Also, I recently made a dirt simple recipe that was da bomb.

Bowtie pasta in cream/parmesan sauce, with cremini mushrooms sautéed in white whine and prosciutto fried up like bacon and broken into little bits.

Man, I want some now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:15 PM (5aX2M)

372 It is. Maybe I haven't been letting it rise long enough. 3 hours seems long. Will try again next wknd.
Posted by: Infidel/i]

Look up "no knead" 24 hour dough.

Fold the ingredients together until mixed, then cover with oiled plastic in a oiled bowl for 24 hours. Use lots of flour when you turn it out.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 18, 2018 06:17 PM (pnMCv)

373 It is. Maybe I haven't been letting it rise long enough. 3 hours seems long. Will try again next wknd.

Between first rise and proofing, three hours isn't unreasonable...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 18, 2018 06:17 PM (7s3Gx)

374 Sometime I should try an all pie Thanksgiving. Turkey pot pie (turkey, peas, carrots, gravy, mushrooms, etc.) shepherds pie (for the spuds) topped with cranberry sauce, fruit pies, pecan pies.

Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 06:18 PM (758Rh)

375 Alex Smith got the Joe Theismann injury 33 years to the day that Theismann got his.

Ouch.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:19 PM (/tuJf)

376 OH! And whichever brilliant Moron left that spicy chicken recipe last week - THANK YOU!!

Was wonderful!

Side note: mrs ibguy has developed some tummy issues and found that even the small amount of hot sauce I used was too much, so will swap it out for a balsamic reduction next go.

Posted by: ibguy at November 18, 2018 06:21 PM (vUcdz)

377 Sometime I should try an all pie Thanksgiving. Turkey pot pie (turkey, peas, carrots, gravy, mushrooms, etc.) shepherds pie (for the spuds) topped with cranberry sauce, fruit pies, pecan pies.
Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 06:18 PM (758Rh)

Stuffing pie with gravy?

Posted by: tumbleweed at November 18, 2018 06:21 PM (uBX7f)

378 375 Alex Smith got the Joe Theismann injury 33 years to the day that Theismann got his.

Ouch.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:19 PM (/tuJf)

Yeah, saw the video and immediately thought of Joe T. Smith's tibia basically was turned backward. Ugly. Done for the year, maybe a career-ender.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at November 18, 2018 06:22 PM (1FhAQ)

379 I just made some fried apples to go with baked pork chops. Quite tasty, if I say so myself. Butter, brown sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 18, 2018 06:22 PM (Dhht7)

380 Youtube seems to have blown up again.

Posted by: Off the reservation at November 18, 2018 06:12 PM (vWMNq)

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I was just there via hooktube and it ran fine.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 18, 2018 06:22 PM (ffYR/)

381 An FB friend posted an old sign: "Please! No floozies in the jacuzzi!"

I added, "Look out! Those floozies are boozy!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:23 PM (miE9U)

382 YD, my local HEB carries a porcini mushroom/truffle cappellacci. I sautee chicken in white wine and add the pasta and smother the whole thing in basil pesto.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 06:24 PM (T1Aes)

383

Loozie got some splainin to do!

Posted by: Rick E. Ricardo at November 18, 2018 06:24 PM (aKsyK)

384 Ok, this is important. Like life cHanging.

Today we cooked a test turkey in our new charbroil infra-red oil-less fryer. Everyone and I mean everyone should have one. In fact if I win lotto I'm getting everyone one of them.... and a gun.

13 lbs. 2 hours. Moist. Wonderfullness.

Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (+6jVU)

385 Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 06:24 PM (T1Aes)

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Lord in heaven, that sounds amazing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (5aX2M)

386 I think I posted this before.

My late husband was the cook. And Thanksgiving was his holiday. The first Thanksgiving after his death, my friend invited me to her house for Thanksgiving. She had a lot of people over.

She started the turkey early and checked on it around noon. Then she discovered her mom had accidently turned the oven off when she checked it that morning. One of the guests said "we're going to need more wine." I went into town with them and it was a good choice. My friend cut up the turkey and tried to cook it in the microwave. She was not very successful. We did have a few things to eat and we had wine. I would not recommend cooking a turkey in the microwave.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (Lqy/e)

387 turkey fryers are way less than $100, so cost shouldn't be much of a barrier there.

that much peanut oil, if you're only going to use it for a single bird, is more of a sticker shock...

measure how much oil you are going to need a day or 3 ahead, by putting the bird, on it's stand, in the pot and measuring how much water it takes to cover it.

on cooking day, put measured amount of oil in the cooker, located OUTSIDE, on level ground, away from anything flammable, and with no dogs, children, drunks, etc, to run into it or knock it over.

heat oil to cooking temp, using thermometer. shut off flame when you reach it.

only *then* do you (very) slowly lower the bird into the oil, having used paper towels, etc, to remove as much surface moisture as you can... it's still going to his and spit, but you do NOT want to put a wet bird into the oil and you also do NOT want to lower it in all at once.

when submerged, re-light the flame, and cook as directed.

when the bird is done, turn off the flame, THEN remove the bird. if you're cooking another one, this is the time to immerse it, then, if necessary, add oil BEFORE relighting the flame.

other wise, let the oil cool, and drain into storage containers, straining it in the process.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (Dagiw)

388 I left a comment on Breitbart (GOP Sen. Blunt: 'It Would Be a Huge Mistake Not to Let the Mueller Investigation Come to a Conclusion').

I asked "Where are the probes on Hillary, Lynch, Holder, Soros, Jarrett, bho?" Under moderation for 15 minutes. WTF?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (hyuyC)

389 BLESSED SUNDAY YO ALL THE WARRIORS OUT THERE, THR ONES BATTLING THE MAN CUBTS AND CHOMOS! SHBSCRIBE TO MY YOURUBE PAGE TO WATCH ME IN SCTUON!!

Posted by: Based Herk at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (2APeU)

390 I am going to pioneer the trend of cooking a turkey with an Oxyacetylene torch.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (dNzKv)

391 374 Sometime I should try an all pie Thanksgiving. Turkey pot pie (turkey, peas, carrots, gravy, mushrooms, etc.) shepherds pie (for the spuds) topped with cranberry sauce, fruit pies, pecan pies.
Posted by: JTB at November 18, 2018 06:18 PM (758Rh)
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This is a genius idea. You could have a savory quiche for the veggie course.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (kQs4Y)

392
That was one ugly injury to Alex Smith, as evidenced by there being no replays when they realized how gruesome it was.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 18, 2018 06:28 PM (LsBY9)

393 I thought the money dried up after major elections.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:28 PM (dNzKv)

394 And you can use it for pork loin, etc. no oil. Easy Peary.


Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:29 PM (+6jVU)

395 393 I thought the money dried up after major elections.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:28 PM (dNzKv)

It's BSG. We're his hobby, I surmise.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at November 18, 2018 06:29 PM (1FhAQ)

396 Hadrian the Seventh

Sad for him. He was doing OK after KC let him go.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:30 PM (hyuyC)

397 Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (+6jVU)

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Ha! I was just telling my bro that when I win Mega Millions next week, every Moron gets a Barrett M107.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:30 PM (5aX2M)

398 Ben Had, that HEB you menitoned is one I'm familiar with. Stopped there when passing through to get some traveling snacks before, but next time we are stopping at your place instead.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 06:30 PM (zLDYs)

399 388 I left a comment on Breitbart (GOP Sen. Blunt: 'It Would Be a Huge Mistake Not to Let the Mueller Investigation Come to a Conclusion').

I asked "Where are the probes on Hillary, Lynch, Holder, Soros, Jarrett, bho?" Under moderation for 15 minutes. WTF?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (hyuyC)


That's why I don't read breitbart. Went to crap when Andrew died. They permabanned me for saying "Conservatives like big government when big government forces people to do what THEY want."

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:31 PM (dNzKv)

400 Uuurrgghhh, I just watched the Alex Smith video. His leg just got all floppy and weird.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (kQs4Y)

401
Ha! I was just telling my bro that when I win Mega Millions next week, every Moron gets a Barrett M107.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:30 PM (5aX2M

Whoa. You get a ticket this week? I'll look forward to it. Good luck!

Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (+6jVU)

402 redc1c4, thanks for all that info.
Think I will get a turkey fryer between this T-day and next T-day and give fried turkey a shot in 2019. In the meantime, buffalo wings baby!! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (miE9U)

403 https://tinyurl.com/ybe3kbam

Pickle pizza. WTF

Posted by: Total Control Racist at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (z2W2E)

404 Eromero, I will cook for you any time. Matter of fact, I may just make you come to dinner so I can give you your Jar back!

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 06:33 PM (T1Aes)

405 Cat Ass Trophy

First time for me.

Been doing OK as part of my Age of Reason outreach at Breitbart. I was going for a "symmetry is stable" statement. Hmmm...

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:34 PM (hyuyC)

406 Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:32 PM (+6jVU)

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Thanks, and I'm hardly kidding. I would consider arming you Morons to the hilt with heavy weapons to be a mitzvah and a public service

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:35 PM (5aX2M)

407 when I win Mega Millions next week, every Moron gets a Barrett M107.

Hmm, I should probably let you win because I might have only gotten me the single-shot version.

Powerball and Mega Millions are both at $139 million. How often does that happen.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 06:37 PM (nIvDu)

408 Rumors flying around Twatter that there's some sort of coup underway in Haiti.

How could they tell?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 18, 2018 05:35 PM (aKsyK)

Fist bump!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:38 PM (fDU8w)

409 Oh CBD, that bread does look good. Yum.

Posted by: bluebell at November 18, 2018 06:38 PM (U5tDi)

410 Cat Ass Trophy

27 minutes to be approved by a mod. Hmmm...

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 18, 2018 06:39 PM (hyuyC)

411 Yud, thanks so much but I'd prefer the cash. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:39 PM (miE9U)

412 Eagles are serving turkey early

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 06:39 PM (6VrXf)

413 Ben Had, just ate the last of the venison/wildhog chili and had apple pie with Bluebell homemade vanilla. Now I need to get a drink before the gub thread, I mean, since I missed church and all. Right?

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 06:39 PM (zLDYs)

414 I actually took the time to glance thru the posts since my way earlier input.
Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died and thankful no one brought up the most vile of green things...okra.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:41 PM (0tfLf)

415 Just got back from a trip to Trader Joe's which is always fun but especially at this time of year. So many things to try including fresh Brussels sprouts still on the stalks. They had a whole bin of them.

Posted by: Tuna at November 18, 2018 06:42 PM (jm1YL)

416 ''the most vile of green things...okra.''

French fried okra is yummy. It's a southern thing.

Posted by: Tuna at November 18, 2018 06:43 PM (jm1YL)

417 Eromero, scratch that,maybe I will just bring the Jar back and see if I can get a dinner invite.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 18, 2018 06:43 PM (T1Aes)

418 QDP, money may not always be able to get you a gun, but a gun can always get you money.

JK, LOL, don't ban me, dudes!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:43 PM (5aX2M)

419 Brussel sprouts! Okra! BAH! We had to scrape the algae off of rocks in the ditch for our Thanksgivings!

Posted by: grumpy old freakde at November 18, 2018 06:44 PM (UdKB7)

420 My Class A MH is 42 years old.
Posted by: freakde at November 18, 2018 05:42 PM (UdKB7)

Mine, if I ever get it back on the road, is a 1947 model:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9rg7t3w

Really in better shape than this one, too. And it does run and motivate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (fDU8w)

421 >>Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died

>>Just got back from a trip to Trader Joe's which is always fun but especially at this time of year. So many things to try including fresh Brussels sprouts still on the stalks. They had a whole bin of them.

They never go away.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (/tuJf)

422 Then she discovered her mom had accidently turned the oven off when she checked it that morning"
You sure that wasn't mother-in-law, Marie Barone?

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (3HNOQ)

423 The woman at nourishingday.com has a nice cookbook on fermented vegetables.

I did kombuchu before it was called that. It was easy to make where we lived in the Gorge but I've had no luck here. And I didn't have any luck making kefir recently. I'm going to wait until we move to try again.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (Lqy/e)

424 Can't watch the video of Alex Smith. Ugh.. feel bad for him.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (dUJdY)

425 Link don't work aop

Posted by: grumpy old freakde at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (UdKB7)

426 We had to eat chinaberries or indian cigars off catalpa trees and pretend it was okra, that most divine green vegetable, right, morons?

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (zLDYs)

427 Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died

I love them. I cut the ends of and quarter them then fry them with garlic. Yum.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (dUJdY)

428 421 >>Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died

>>Just got back from a trip to Trader Joe's which is always fun but especially at this time of year. So many things to try including fresh Brussels sprouts still on the stalks. They had a whole bin of them.

They never go away.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (/tuJf)

Like herpes.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (NWiLs)

429 Alex Smith got the Joe Theismann injury 33 years to the day that Theismann got his.

Ouch.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:19 PM (/tuJf)

And Joe T. was there, as it was alumni day. He knew right away and was really heartbroken for Alex. Very sad.

And balsamic vinegar for the last few minutes in the oven (save your pan and use parchment paper) on those caramelized sprouts will make them delicious if you don't have bacon. Because I know you just ate all of the bacon, didn't you?

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (t0Z53)

430 Haiti: A slave revolution in which all the white people were slaughtered. Gee. I just don't understand why there has NEVER been any investment there since.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (3HNOQ)

431 Ok...wait..we gotta eat the damn thing, too? I'm out. Did brussels with bacon last year. Hit with a good balsamic before serving. Make you almost ignore the main course...almost...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (5WpEK)

432 Is there a link for the brussels sprouts recipe?

Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (XLiDf)

433 William Shatner demonstrates his exquisite acting in this turkey-fryer PSA.

https://youtu.be/XVixbf-bubs?t=28

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (rnAwa)

434 Just cooked "Momma's Quick Prep Pot Roast" (#340, pg 232 in The Deplorable Gourmet, posted by Holdmyscotch), with my 7 year old daughter as sous-chef. Big hit all around. Delicious with a loaf of sourdough to mop up the broth. And a bottle of Pacific NW Syrah shared with the wife. Absolutely love the book - if there's a vol 2, I will submit a contribution.

Posted by: Mike at November 18, 2018 06:49 PM (/A6g2)

435 You celebrated thanksgiving? We were so poor we didn't have a calendar to know what day thanksgiving was on!

Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

436 435 You celebrated thanksgiving? We were so poor we didn't have a calendar to know what day thanksgiving was on!
Posted by: Weasel at November 18, 2018 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

We were so poor we couldn't afford to give thanks. The best we could do was grudging acknowledgement.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:50 PM (NWiLs)

437 They never go away.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (/tuJf)

Like herpes.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (NWiLs)


*******

I feel a rash coming on.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:50 PM (0tfLf)

438 One year we turned a rock in the ditch over and found a lobster under there. That was the best Thanksgiving ever.

Posted by: grumpy old freakde at November 18, 2018 06:50 PM (UdKB7)

439 So Based Herk does appear to have a YT channel, but sadly it contains no content. But it does have several hundred subscribers, which is odd. Maybe people just looking forward to some insane, incoherent videos.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM (5aX2M)

440 Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 18, 2018 06:48 PM (5WpEK)

Great minds!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM (t0Z53)

441 IIRC, Joe Theisman's legs didn't break. The lower leg went the wrong way at the knee. Am I misremembering it?

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM (3HNOQ)

442 437 They never go away.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 18, 2018 06:45 PM (/tuJf)

Like herpes.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:47 PM (NWiLs)


*******

I feel a rash coming on.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:50 PM (0tfLf)

Valtrex (acyclovir) can reduce recurrent outbreaks, and shorten the duration of current ones. Ask your doctor about Valtrex!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM (NWiLs)

443 Gee. I just don't understand why there has NEVER been any investment there since.

I've done what I could. ...without Hillary finding out, that is!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (CE5C/)

444 443 Gee. I just don't understand why there has NEVER been any investment there since.

I've done what I could. ...without Hillary finding out, that is!
Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (CE5C/)

Spread herpes?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (NWiLs)

445 Valtrex (acyclovir) can reduce recurrent outbreaks, and shorten the duration of current ones. Ask your doctor about Valtrex!
Posted by: Insomniac at November 18, 2018 06:51 PM

******

I'm thinking this rash may last longer than 4 hours.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (0tfLf)

446 Yud, hmmmmmm... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (miE9U)

447 Today we cooked a test turkey in our new charbroil infra-red oil-less fryer. Everyone and I mean everyone should have one. In fact if I win lotto I'm getting everyone one of them.... and a gun.

13 lbs. 2 hours. Moist. Wonderfullness.
Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 06:26 PM (+6jVU)

If there's no oil, it's not a fryer. Full stop. Frying is defined as cooking food in hot oil or grease. Sometimes just thin film in fry pan, sometimes by immersing it.

What you have is just a big toaster oven. It might even cook good turkey, but the critter is being roasted, not fried.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (fDU8w)

448 Made a test run of shoo-fly pie today. Not bad but needs a little twerking.

Hmmmm. . . What would Freud say about that?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 06:53 PM (9rIkM)

449 What to do with your Brussels sprouts
https://youtu.be/3-uxdrMt4k0

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 06:53 PM (6VrXf)

450 IIRC, Joe Theisman's legs didn't break. The lower leg went the wrong way at the knee. Am I misremembering it?

You might be remembering a running back who had that happen to both knees on a hit. MacGhee? Something like that.

Theismann had a compound fracture.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2018 06:54 PM (Y9zp1)

451 I am pretty sure my mom tried cooking a turkey in a microwave oven back when the ovens were a new thing.

Posted by: RTW at November 18, 2018 06:54 PM (jJlJu)

452 That's a horrible story. Poor doggie.

Posted by: ALH at November 18, 2018 06:54 PM (dczB+)

453 Maple syrup is not only good with French toasts but with bananas

Posted by: Marc at November 18, 2018 06:55 PM (V3Esc)

454 Mmmmmmm Shoo-fly pie

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 06:55 PM (6VrXf)

455 I am going to pioneer the trend of cooking a turkey with an Oxyacetylene torch.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 18, 2018 06:27 PM (dNzKv)

Saw that many (inserts extra "many" upon reflection) years ago on the old "You Asked For It" TV show. The guy used a large rosebud heating tip, IIRC. Cooked chickens, though, not a turkey.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:55 PM (fDU8w)

456 Open fire and a spit

Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2018 06:56 PM (6VrXf)

457 I've seen a house fly.
And I've seen a horse fly.
But I ain't never seen a shoe fly.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 06:56 PM (0tfLf)

458 But I ain't never seen a shoe fly.

I have.

Posted by: GWB at November 18, 2018 06:57 PM (Y9zp1)

459 I'm eating one of those prepared meals with barbecued ribs. I'm not real crazy about it. It tastes OK, but I'm more used to boneless meat.

Posted by: rickl at November 18, 2018 06:57 PM (sdi6R)

460 But I ain't never seen a shoe fly.

Posted by: Diogenes
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Diogenes, from Dumbo?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 06:58 PM (9rIkM)

461 It tastes OK, but I'm more used to boneless meat.

Posted by: rickl
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Whatever makes you happy son.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 06:58 PM (9rIkM)

462 Although I want a turkey fryer, I once saw a brochure on using one. It was titled:

"So you're going to set yourself, your house and all your loved ones completely on fire"

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 06:59 PM (miE9U)

463 Hey AOP the tinyurl link didn't work for me.

Hey i just remebered there's these things that appeared in the pantry today called "double chocolate muffins".

Posted by: freaked at November 18, 2018 07:00 PM (UdKB7)

464 Theisman tweeted that the injury was exactly like his. Reports say that he's correct. Broken tibia and fibula. Joe said that he thinks medical advances give him hope for better recovery for Alex.

Isn't an air fryer pretty much a convection oven?

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 07:00 PM (t0Z53)

465 'I have.
Posted by: GWB'

Ha!

Posted by: Duck! at November 18, 2018 07:01 PM (UdKB7)

466 Story at HotAir:

"Cindy McCain: President Trump is 'a negative Nancy'"

Oooo! Watch that mouth, Cindy!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:02 PM (miE9U)

467 I ain't never seen an elephant fly.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 07:02 PM (3HNOQ)

468 But I ain't never seen a shoe fly.

Posted by: Diogenes
----
Diogenes, from Dumbo?
Posted by: Tonypete at November 18, 2018 06:58 PM

*****

More or less. Paraphrase.
Best I could do after a weekend at the in-laws (who are Mormons) and I'm only now getting caught up on my single malt intake.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 07:03 PM (0tfLf)

469 Wow, the thread is infested with a bunch of cooking savages. Next thing you know, they'll be talking about putting syrup on waffles.
Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (WEBkv)


Well, I'm a Savage because I like peanut butter and maple syrup on my waffles...and pancakes...and French Toast.

Posted by: Travelin' Man at November 18, 2018 07:03 PM (a8wxA)

470 Link don't work aop
Posted by: grumpy old freakde at November 18, 2018 06:46 PM (UdKB7)

Try this:


https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7gb6du8

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 07:04 PM (fDU8w)

471 Isn't an air fryer pretty much a convection oven?



Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 07:00 PM (t0Z53)


Yes, it's a convection oven.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 07:04 PM (tT986)

472

Glad to see the brussel sprouts thread has died and thankful no one brought up the most vile of green things...okra.

Okra is only vile if it's not fried and served with cornbread.

Greetings, gastronomical Morons.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:04 PM (HaL55)

473 I now know what I want to do with the KoC turkey. I am going to pick up a deep fryer in the after Thanksgiving sales.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 07:04 PM (3HNOQ)

474 Well, I'm a Savage because I like peanut butter and maple syrup on my waffles...and pancakes...and French Toast.
Posted by: Travelin' Man at November 18, 2018 07:03 PM (a8wxA)

******

Mash a banana into that peanut butter and you are a true brute!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 18, 2018 07:06 PM (0tfLf)

475 Steamed okra is like....turds.
Gotta be fried. Or cut up and put into gumbo.

Posted by: JAS at November 18, 2018 07:06 PM (3HNOQ)

476 JAS, I mentioned this before, but my favorite Cajun place has fried okra. They call it "the devil's popcorn."

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:06 PM (miE9U)

477 Nood

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 18, 2018 07:07 PM (H5knJ)

478 Debating whether to fry up some buffalo wings, or just get something at Wahoo's tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 18, 2018 07:07 PM (miE9U)

479 Hiya, BackwardsBoy.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 18, 2018 07:07 PM (t+qrx)

480 Oh a Flexible. Very cool. What kind of motor does that thing have?

Mine's a 76 GMC. Like in Stripes, minus the machine guns and rocket launchers.

Posted by: Duck! at November 18, 2018 07:09 PM (UdKB7)

481
What you have is just a big toaster oven. It might even cook good turkey, but the critter is being roasted, not fried.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 18, 2018 06:52 PM (fDU8w)

That's just mean.

Posted by: Cannibal Jim 'assumed name so don't get doxxed, at November 18, 2018 07:10 PM (+6jVU)

482

If there's no oil, it's not a fryer.

Thank you for pointing out of Life's Truisms.
That's like UCF proclaiming their 2017 football team to be National Champions simply because they were undefeated. That's bullshit and if there's a way to email the NCAA, I'm going to do that tomorrow to ask if there was another college national championship that was not televised that the entire rest of the country somehow missed.
UCF didn't even play My Beloved Crimson Tide, much less defeat them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:10 PM (HaL55)

483 We had a "convection" toaster oven that made crouton toast. You couldn't turn off the stupid fan. It died in a fire of its own making and there was much rejoicing.

The oil to fry a turkey costs about 50 bucks and is kind of difficult to save and reuse.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 07:10 PM (t0Z53)

484

Hey, hogmartin and all the rest of the Horde. Here's hoping everybody has a great Thanksgiving.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (HaL55)

485 Least favorite way to eat okra is raw. Fried is probably next least. Stewed is perfectly acceptable. But in gumbo (African word for okra, I think) is on the table in heaven. Every day.

Posted by: Eromero at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (zLDYs)

486 Hey, hogmartin and all the rest of the Horde. Here's hoping everybody has a great Thanksgiving.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:12 PM (HaL55)

Seconded!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 18, 2018 07:13 PM (t0Z53)

487 Regarding a recipe for turkey neck gravy, I just looked one up on the interwebs. The idea is to get some good fat and broth, so I sometimes buy additional parts to get a good batch up.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at November 18, 2018 07:14 PM (NMAzL)

488 That's like UCF proclaiming their 2017 football team
to be National Champions simply because they were undefeated. That's
bullshit and if there's a way to email the NCAA, I'm going to do that
tomorrow to ask if there was another college national championship that
was not televised that the entire rest of the country somehow missed.
UCF didn't even play My Beloved Crimson Tide, much less defeat them.




Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:10 PM (HaL55)


I understand why UCF feels like they're getting the short shrift, but they need to quit complaining. It doesn't help their case.


Also, College GameDay shows up in Orlando and the best they could do for a guest picker was Maury Povich!?!?

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 07:14 PM (tT986)

489

I understand why UCF feels like they're getting the short shrift, but
they need to quit complaining. It doesn't help their case.


They're not getting shorted. They didn't make the NCAA football playoffs for some very good reasons, chief among them is they didn't play any highly ranked teams to qualify. Tough shit for them. Try harder next time. You lost.


They're acting like children, which is most unbecoming. The NCAA needs to stop this or else everybody will just proclaim themselves NatChamps. I can't understand why they'd allow that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2018 07:24 PM (HaL55)

490 >>> Sometime I should try an all pie Thanksgiving.<<<

One word: Trainwreck! In Spades!

You'll be dropped out of the Thanksgiving dinner rotation for a decade.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2018 07:28 PM (Z9C5C)

491 Brussels sprouts were always iffy for me because all too often they were bitter. Brussels sprouts that are not bitter and slathered in butter is a great dish. But I now believe that cutting the white off the bottom helps with the bitterness. And I agree that bacon adds to the flavor. I mean, what doesn't bacon improve?

Had great Brussels sprouts at a Greek restaurant earlier this year. They were halved and sauteed (to within an inch of their life), with bacon, walnuts and pomegranate seeds. The surprise was that they rested on a bed of mashed butternut squash, and the dish was seasoned with Ras el Hanout ("Top of the Shelf"), a middle eastern spice that is a mixture of about a dozen different "sweet" spices, like cinnamon, cardamon, etc. It was one heavenly dish! I still make it when the grocer has fresh Brussels sprouts available.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at November 18, 2018 07:32 PM (RkS3d)

492 I understand why UCF feels like they're getting the short shrift, but they need to quit complaining. It doesn't help their case.

Git yer own TV network to sponsor you! We're full up at NBC.

Posted by: Notre Dame at November 18, 2018 07:38 PM (OiC69)

493 70
Which pies are you getting grammie?



Posted by: kallisto at November 18, 2018 04:23 PM (HKPap)


Pumpkin,
because you have to. Turtle pie, because you want to.
Raspberry/Blackberry, because at least you can call it a fruit, and
daughter will thereby maybe, just maybe, let the grandkids have some.
She's a food nazi.


Posted by: grammie winger at November 18, 2018 04:26 PM (lwiT4)

grammie, I have found that the food nazi parents I have witnessed over the years are generally terrible at, or just hate cooking.

Why they take their failures out on their kids is another story altogether.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 18, 2018 07:39 PM (UsCnO)

494 Git yer own TV network to sponsor you! We're full up at NBC.


Posted by: Notre Dame at November 18, 2018 07:38 PM (OiC69)


Pretty much.

Posted by: Vendette at November 18, 2018 07:40 PM (tT986)

495 My M I L did a chicken that wy. It was inedible, but to be fair, nothing she cooks is fit to eat.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 18, 2018 08:01 PM (Jj+59)

496 The optimum temperature to cook a whole turkey is 400 F.

It helps to have the turkey at room temp or at least even temperature when starting.

Posted by: MAGA at November 18, 2018 08:08 PM (/8RAd)

497 I'm not cooking this year, just bringing Bakers Square pies.

This thread gives me the sadz. I'm going to miss having good stuffing. My SIL makes the worst.

Posted by: Gem at November 18, 2018 08:18 PM (XoAz8)

498 Re that chocolate pecan pie - It's been a constant at our Christmas Dessert orgy for years. One year someone made it with German Chocolate and it was even better. Go for it.

Posted by: Ruth H at November 18, 2018 10:37 PM (jxaoW)

499 My husband did something like that, in around 1982(3?).

He'd been given a turkey - about 12 pounds or so. He decided to speed up the process of cooking it - so stuck it into the microwave. He finished it off for about an hour in the oven.

It was terrific - moist and juicy. He only blasted it with microwaves for around 15-20 minutes or so. But, as a result of that pre-cooking, he took our making dinner process from over 4 hours to around 1-1/2 hours.

Posted by: Lnda Fox at November 19, 2018 04:46 AM (V1Os2)

500 heh - got the Kim Komando email w/this link;


Can you cook a 25-pound turkey in the microwave? You won't believe the answer

.komando.com / happening-now /509637 / can-you-cook-a-25-pound-turkey-in-the-microwave-you-wont-believe-the-answer

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