WH Chief of Staff John Kelly, Deputy NSA Mira Ricardel, and DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen Might All Be Fired from Trump Administration

Some of this has to do with feuding with... Melania Trump.

"There have been instances where the East Wing staff were not treated as equals to the male-dominated decision makers in Chief Kelly’s office," one White House official said. "Promotions were denied then finally granted after months of requests," the official said.
Melania Trump raised concerns with her husband earlier this year, amid the height of the controversy over his alleged affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels, that Kelly had repeatedly denied her requests to promote some of her aides, two White House officials told NBC News.
The requests languished for months as Kelly insisted there weren’t enough available positions for the first lady’s aides to have senior titles, these people said. During this same period however, West Wing officials working for Kelly received promotions, the White House officials said.
Having learned of the dispute, the president was furious and told Kelly to give the first lady, who has a smaller East Wing staff than her recent predecessors, what she wanted, these people said. "I don't need this shit," Trump told Kelly, according to one person familiar with the conversation.
...

Kelly has also sparred with the East Wing over travel arrangements for the first lady's staff, people familiar with the issue said. He often wouldn't reserve space for Melania Trump's two aides on Air Force One or on helicopters. They would find themselves without hotel rooms and not listed for motorcade movements. The omissions have caused last-minute logistical issues that the first lady viewed as a slight, these people said.

Meanwhile, Mira Ricardel also drew the First Lady's ire:

One of the sources said that their dealings over the trip "didn't go well." The other source said that Melania Trump felt that Ricardel tried to short-change the first lady in terms of U.S. government resources allocated to support her Africa tour.
The sources did not elaborate on the clash over resources.
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A source familiar with Ricardel's White House performance said Ricardel also ran afoul of much of the NSC staff and "sort of alienated everyone" except for Bolton, the veteran conservative foreign policy expert who has been Ricardel's immediate superior.

Melania isn't using the normal route of whispers and leaks to express her anger at Ricardel: she's publicly declaring she no longer deserves "the honor" of working at the White House:

Just asked the First Lady’s office about deputy national security advisor Mira Ricardel : “It is the position of the Office of the First Lady that she no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House,” Stephanie Grisham The First Lady’s communication director to @ABC
— John Santucci (@Santucci) November 13, 2018

Meanwhile, Trump is reportedly also looking to eject DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, who is reported to be a close ally of John Kelly:

Kirstjen Nielsen, his secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, is potentially the next to go, multiple officials with knowledge of the matter said. Her departure could portend another high-profile exit: chief of staff John Kelly, Nielsen's top advocate in the administration.
Trump could ask Nielsen to resign in the coming days, multiple officials familiar with the matter predicted, describing the President's continued frustration at her handling of his signature issue: immigration and border security.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:19 PM

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1
Chaos in the White House!!1!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 13, 2018 03:19 PM (ADSOS)

2 How many Divisions does the First Lady Command?

Posted by: dc at November 13, 2018 03:20 PM (u0crE)

3
*feverishly sets up defensive cordon*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 13, 2018 03:20 PM (ADSOS)

4 are they saying melania is uppity?

Posted by: willow at November 13, 2018 03:20 PM (aSpXp)

5
I'll wait for the audiobook cersion.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (pNxlR)

6 I'm going to hate to see Gen. Kelly go. IMHO he brought some semblance of control to a chaotic Oval Office, instilled discipline and greatly reduced the leaks that plagued Trump during his first few months.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (jxbfJ)

7 Guessing we don't have all the facts but why would Kelly slight the First Lady that way? Does not seem smart to have the President's wife pissed off at you.

Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (a0IVu)

8 There had been rumors going a few weeks ago that a major purge was coming.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (mpXpK)

9 I like how this Trump guy runs an organization. Gotta keep people on their toes! Can't have anybody feeling too comfortable around the Big Stein!

Posted by: Zombie Steinbrenner at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (oZ6kz)

10 amid the height of the controversy over his alleged affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels
Really NBC? Had to throw in non-pertinent shot?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (r+sAi)

11 Damn. I hate that about John Kelly. The man is a patriot who lost his own son.

Hope Melania isn't getting a Michelle-like ego.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (ptqGC)

12 as we know people never leave their positions .

Posted by: willow at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (aSpXp)

13 Don't bother me none.

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (BXMxN)

14 Kelly has had the 'kingmaker' stank all over him, ever since he got the job.

There is ONE boss, Kelly-girl. And he ain't you. Been too long since that asshole had to salute first.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 03:22 PM (bcbK8)

15 Probably more going on than we're aware of.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 13, 2018 03:22 PM (XXadE)

16 Motherfuckers be trippin' in the White House.

Posted by: Donald Fucking Trump at November 13, 2018 03:22 PM (4e+hS)

17 All of this is crap....Nearly every single Administration after 1865 has dumped key people after the first mid term election.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 13, 2018 03:22 PM (JUOKG)

18 I cannot imagine even if true, screwing stormy could be considered an affair.

Posted by: willow at November 13, 2018 03:22 PM (aSpXp)

19 I like how this Trump guy runs an organization. Gotta keep people on their toes!

Raise all the urinals by 6 inches.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 13, 2018 03:22 PM (ctuyM)

20 I think there is more than a 50% chance that Trump will veer left next year, and he's gonna have to clean house to get there.

Let's face it folks: almost everyone here is well over 29 and the culture every year violently jerks leftward away from what we grew up with, knew, and loved in our country. Each year more skulls indoctrinated with insanity flood out of schools and more sane and stable people die out and retire.

We're not gonna fix this with votes, and no "civil war" is going to happen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (39g3+)

21 How many times has this story been floated now? Must be a slow news day.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (2LelM)

22 This is disturbing. The FLOTUS shouldn't really have any role in these decisions.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (RD7QR)

23 Kirstjen is part of W's swamp. Drain her like a boil.

Posted by: Valiant at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (3MiF8)

24 After two years, all of the people who left the Obama WH were going on to further their careers with their great experiences and polished resumes.

Posted by: Roy at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (Rr52g)

25 2 How many Divisions does the First Lady Command?
Posted by: dc at November 13, 2018 03:20 PM (u0crE)

How many divisions does the White House Chief of Staff command?

Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (NgKpN)

26 Fire all of them, and get some fighters in there

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (bQtop)

27 Nearly every single Administration after 1865 has dumped key people after the first mid term election.

I was 'fired' in 1865.

Posted by: zombie Abraham Lincoln at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (e1q4h)

28 I wonder if any of this is true?? You never know.

Posted by: kraken at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (ffWPP)

29 Melania showing some Ladyballs.

And they're bigger than Michelle O's.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (UnA8+)

30 Is it impossible to get an actual immigration hawk installed at DHS?

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (wGbBR)

31 I'd have been a much better choice than that Kelly rube - always thought he was a bit of a dandy.

Posted by: Fred Astaire at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (oZ6kz)

32 Michell Obama at one point had ~30 people on her staff, Melania has 5, IIRC. Harassing her is petty BS, if this account is true.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (W+vEI)

33 Yeah, whoever is to blame, the First Lady's office publicly commenting about who deserves a job seems unprofessional and inappropriate.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (X5jRy)

34 29 Melania showing some Ladyballs.

And they're bigger than Michelle O's.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (UnA8+)

Michelle still had the bigger dick.

Posted by: Roy at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (Rr52g)

35 It's another opportunity for people to post strongly-held opinions about something they didn't know existed 15 minutes ago. Cf., Cecil the Lion.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (XXadE)

36 Because the media would NEVER lie or wildly speculate about happenings in the Trump administration.

NEVER.

Posted by: Sponge at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (F4u7C)

37 Mooch was guaranteed 20 times bitchier than Melania ever thought to be.Most beloved first lady ever.LOL

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (BXMxN)

38 32 Michell Obama at one point had ~30 people on her staff, Melania has 5, IIRC. Harassing her is petty BS, if this account is true.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (W+vEI)

That's what I am thinking. She wants to promote two of her staff and Kelly was giving her a hard time about that?

Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (a0IVu)

39 I'll work for her. For free!

Posted by: LASue at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (XROPS)

40 From time to time, the tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of the Whitehouse staff.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (T71PA)

41
Hope Melania isn't getting a Michelle-like ego.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (ptqGC)

If her people are getting left out of movement plans and motorcades, I can completely understand her anger. It doesn't appear to be for herself, but for the people working for her. I may be completely wrong, but it sounds like she is trying to stand up for her staff, who are being shortchanged. I appreciate that.

Posted by: moki at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (mFoNl)

42 Stir the pot, stir the pot, stir the pot..... the Media LOVES this......

Posted by: kraken at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (ffWPP)

43 First reports In a crisis are usually wrong. Im waiting for the next shoe to drop. Not ruling out a leak-counter op.

Posted by: Sumdumchief at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (k9jE6)

44 Nielsen was only in that position bc of Kelly. She never seemed to have the intestinal fortitude that job would require. I hope Kobach takes it. He would be perfect for the immigration and voter fraud aspects.

Posted by: Ever at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (QPeHQ)

45 39 I'll work for her. For free!

Posted by: LASue at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (XROPS)

Me too...I'll take some of her shoes in lieu of any payment

Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (a0IVu)

46 To be blunt, it sure seems like a lot of Kelly's people haven't exactly been stellar hires.

Posted by: Brother Cavil needs to figure his defenses out at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (AM1GF)

47 43 First reports In a crisis are usually wrong.

Especially in a made-up one.

Posted by: Roy at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (Rr52g)

48 The First Ladies have been welding the real power and influence in the Exectitive Branch for a long time.

Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (W3lnd)

49
Mira Ricardel is not hot in case anyone was wondering

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (TAmPV)

50 Feels like the lede got buried here. I find the paragraph "Trump could ask Nielsen to resign in the coming days, multiple officials familiar with the matter predicted, describing the President's continued frustration at her handling of his signature issue: immigration and border security." to be a more plausible explanation for these departures than "Melania didn't like them."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (KUaJL)

51 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (39g3+)

I think just the opposite... I think Trump veers more Right.

Which, is not the direction Kelly wants to go.

There have been a number of fights President Trump talked about having... yet has somehow been talked out of... things like the FISA documents... or more border security... or taking on Sanctuary cities...

He needs a stronger AG, much stronger head of DHS... and a Chief of Staff willing to fight on all fronts.

Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (NgKpN)

52 Were in a war damnit, you need people on your side inequivetly

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (bQtop)

53 Trump is the polar opposite of bush. Bush kept people on in positions for which they already demonstrated a complete lack of ability. He put loyalty above Performance. Trump does not. I like Trump's way better. Presidents can't afford that kind of nonsense

Posted by: Pep at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (FniFw)

54 Don't give a damn.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (sgNZx)

55 Have to wait and see how this plays out.

I'm really not sure what affect this will have on President Trump and his agenda.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (qC1Sy)

56 This is disturbing. The FLOTUS shouldn't really have any role in these decisions.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (RD7QR)

Like it or not, FLOTUS is seen as an extension of the administration, and if Trump wants her used as a form of "soft power" (goodwill trips, etc) then I can understand her frustration with her people being given the short end of the stick.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (wCmLp)

57 I think we are fast approaching the colander mask/Lord Humongous phase of the Trump White House.

This shit is simply unreal.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (2JcMg)

58 2 How many Divisions does the First Lady Command?
Posted by: dc at November 13, 2018 03:20 PM (u0crE)

All of them

Posted by: Votermom's phone on Happy Happy Joy Joy SpaceForce at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (AGZfE)

59 And the Trump-haters will squeal, "Look, he can't even keep a cabinet together!"

To which I reply: "Haven't you ever worked for someone who fired a staffer who wasn't working out? Not to their own specifications, but to the boss's?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (yT080)

60 Rolling rolling rolling
Keep those bodies turning
You're fired!

Personally, I'd grant any preezy the right to fire any federal employee. Fuckers are waaaaay too immune to fear for their jobs. Welcome to the real world babies.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (Z4rgH)

61 Somebody needs to find out Melania's position on helicopters, physical removal, The Wall, Trump Camps, ect...

No kidding.

Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 03:28 PM (W3lnd)

62 2
How many Divisions does the First Lady Command?

Posted by: dc at November 13, 2018
*
*
As many as she needs.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 13, 2018 03:28 PM (yT080)

63 I think just the opposite... I think Trump veers more Right.

I'd love to be wrong. Yet I've been expecting it every month now. Perhaps because of a lifetime of repeated, constant betrayal by the people who talk a good talk, I dunno. I've never trusted President Trump as a real conservative, but I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:28 PM (39g3+)

64 Bush.... " Heckuva job there, Brownie...."..... Trump " you're fired"....

Posted by: kraken at November 13, 2018 03:28 PM (ffWPP)

65 Personally, I think think keeping cabinet folks in place for a full term is highly overrated. If they are working, great, if not, sack them. It is the POTUS that was elected, they need to do as he wishes them to.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 13, 2018 03:28 PM (wGbBR)

66 Kirstjen is part of W's swamp. Drain her like a boil.
Posted by: Valiant at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (3MiF

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It's one of the reasons I'm trepidatious about Kavanaugh. I definitely try to be open-minded, but anyone connected to the Bushes is damaged goods. It'll take a lot of good things to balance the yuuuuuge black mark on anyone who is in that family's good graces.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 03:28 PM (AzW6q)

67 We're not gonna fix this with votes, and no "civil war" is going to happen.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Yea, I'm guessing we go the way of Britain: a long, slow slide, becoming an irrelevant, third world sh*tshow.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at November 13, 2018 03:29 PM (5KWnQ)

68 "
Mira Ricardel is not hot in case anyone was wondering
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic "

News flash. We are always wondering.

Posted by: Pep at November 13, 2018 03:29 PM (FniFw)

69 >> Because the media would NEVER lie or wildly speculate about happenings in the Trump administration.

NEVER.

Yup. We don't know that any of this is true.
Guess I'll comment when stuff actually happen, such as resignations.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 13, 2018 03:29 PM (W+vEI)

70 Think back. How much power did Hillary wield back in the BJ days?

A lot....

Posted by: Sponge at November 13, 2018 03:29 PM (F4u7C)

71 This should be fun.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at November 13, 2018 03:29 PM (5fSr7)

72 Kavanaugh will have his issues, but he was an excellent warrior for Ken Starr.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (wGbBR)

73 If her people are getting left out of movement plans and motorcades, I can completely understand her anger. It doesn't appear to be for herself, but for the people working for her. I may be completely wrong, but it sounds like she is trying to stand up for her staff, who are being shortchanged. I appreciate that.
Posted by: moki

it is in part for her. When she travels, she should expect tat her staff moves with her. When they fail to do that, she doesn't have her staff.

Posted by: zombie Abraham Lincoln at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (e1q4h)

74 49
Mira Ricardel is not hot in case anyone was wondering
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (TAmPV)

I was, thanks for checking for me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (bcbK8)

75 68 "
Mira Ricardel is not hot in case anyone was wondering
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic "

News flash. We are always wondering.
Posted by: Pep at November 13, 2018 03:29 PM (FniFw)

We appreciate the good work that some around here do - by taking the bullet for the rest of the horde.

Posted by: Roy at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (Rr52g)

76 It's one of the reasons I'm trepidatious about Kavanaugh. I definitely try to be open-minded, but anyone connected to the Bushes is damaged goods. It'll take a lot of good things to balance the yuuuuuge black mark on anyone who is in that family's good graces.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 03:28 PM (AzW6q)

Unfortunately, it's pretty much impossible to find someone conservative with qualifications for SCOTUS that wasn't touched by the Bushes, because they made just about every republican federal appointment in the last 35 years.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (KUaJL)

77 Miss me yet?

Posted by: No Drama Obama at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (HgMAr)

78 Melania has a tiny staff compared to michelle. How difficult would it be to accommodate two of her staffers. Two?

My sympathies are w PDT. There doesn't seem to be anyone in that WH that wants to make his life easier.

Posted by: Ever at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (QPeHQ)

79 I never liked Kelly- don't recall him being any kind of great Marine, and he always looked to me like a Democrat.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (jjaLl)

80 59 And the Trump-haters will squeal, "Look, he can't even keep a cabinet together!"

To which I reply: "Haven't you ever worked for someone who fired a staffer who wasn't working out? Not to their own specifications, but to the boss's?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 13, 2018 03:27 PM (yT080)

And then ask all of them who Austan Goolsbee or Robert Gibbs were...

Posted by: Hikaru at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (UnA8+)

81 huh?

Posted by: yo quiero retardo dicko slingero at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (7J5t2)

82 63 I think just the opposite... I think Trump veers more Right.

I'd love to be wrong. Yet I've been expecting it every month now. Perhaps because of a lifetime of repeated, constant betrayal by the people who talk a good talk, I dunno. I've never trusted President Trump as a real conservative, but I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:28 PM (39g3+)

I think Trump veers right, but the GOPe, out of 'bipartisanship' veers Left...

Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (NgKpN)

83 If her people are getting left out of movement plans and motorcades, I can completely understand her anger. It doesn't appear to be for herself, but for the people working for her. I may be completely wrong, but it sounds like she is trying to stand up for her staff, who are being shortchanged. I appreciate that.
Posted by: moki at November 13, 2018 03:25 PM (mFoNl)

This.

Also, I get the impression that Trump is all business. If he fires you he may be mad about something you did, but he's not going to carry it around. You're done, good luck with your next job, if you need a recommendation let me know and I write you a glowing one.

The Obamas would keep you on but make your life miserable until you quit, and then badmouth you behind your back.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (wCmLp)

84 Trump has been WAY more Conservative than I'd ever have guessed.

I'm still on board his train. Especially considering the alternative. I can't see anyone else with the balls to even TRY to clean house.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 03:31 PM (bcbK8)

85 amid the height of the controversy over his alleged affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels

Yeah, NBC are cocksuckers.

The only 'controversy' about that non-story is in their empty little heads.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 13, 2018 03:31 PM (oVJmc)

86 It's one of the reasons I'm trepidatious about Kavanaugh. I definitely try to be open-minded, but anyone connected to the Bushes is damaged goods. It'll take a lot of good things to balance the yuuuuuge black mark on anyone who is in that family's good graces.

-----

he definitely seemed like cuck central casting before all the boofing and beer drinking came to light.

Posted by: yo quiero retardo dicko slingero at November 13, 2018 03:31 PM (7J5t2)

87 BNL NEWS @BreakingNLive
3m
BREAKING: Deputy U.S. National Security Advisor Mira Ricardel has been fired, just hours after FLOTUS Melania Trump called for her resignation.

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentally Ill Girlffriend at November 13, 2018 03:31 PM (+om3e)

88 I suspect Melania has detected backstabbery in Kelly's coterie and is trying to protect Donald

Posted by: Votermom's phone on Happy Happy Joy Joy SpaceForce at November 13, 2018 03:31 PM (AGZfE)

89 Bitches, man.

Bitches.

Posted by: garrett at November 13, 2018 03:31 PM (vWGZf)

90 Sometimes I think the Left is just running the clock until the last of us who had undoctrinated education die off...

Posted by: kraken at November 13, 2018 03:31 PM (ffWPP)

91 Miss me yet?
Posted by: No Drama Obama at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (HgMAr)
------
Not so much.

Posted by: No Drama Llama at November 13, 2018 03:32 PM (XXadE)

92 78 Melania has a tiny staff compared to michelle.

>>>>

It's like comparing peaches and bananas.

Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 03:32 PM (W3lnd)

93 77 Miss me yet?
Posted by: No Drama Obama at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (HgMAr)

Look, a rent boy. Go chase him.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 03:32 PM (bcbK8)

94 This is disturbing. The FLOTUS shouldn't really have any role in these decisions.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (RD7QR)

Are you sure that this quote is Melania trying to exert her will in some sort of grudge match? Perhaps she could have the opinion that "he's no longer deserving of the honor of serving in the WH" because she's seen how he's not been able to effectively manage her husband's staff?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 13, 2018 03:32 PM (KUaJL)

95 78 Melania has a tiny staff compared to michelle. How difficult would it be to accommodate two of her staffers. Two?

My sympathies are w PDT. There doesn't seem to be anyone in that WH that wants to make his life easier.
Posted by: Ever at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (QPeHQ)

I will note as well, that the Chief of Staff's JOB is to run the Whitehouse, and help the people who live there.

Its not supposed to be Policy... its supposed to be logistics and schedules...

You know... Logistics, like making travel arrangements for Official visits?

Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 13, 2018 03:33 PM (NgKpN)

96 Look at this in the same light as the Acosta kerfuffle.

PDT wants to do something (bar Acosta/axe Kelly).

PDT waits for a sufficient pretext for doing it. (tantrum/FLOTUS's anger)

PDT does it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 13, 2018 03:33 PM (AURKQ)

97 Again, considering the source of this.... factor in possible hyperbole....

Posted by: kraken at November 13, 2018 03:33 PM (ffWPP)

98 78 Melania has a tiny staff compared to michelle.

Posted by: Ever at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (QPeHQ)

Well, considering that Michelle is probably hung like Wilt Chamberlain...

Posted by: Hikaru at November 13, 2018 03:34 PM (UnA8+)

99 Melania has a solid public image of being classy and even a bit shy, but I don't know what she's like in private. She was a model so maybe she's a bit of a prima donna, but there seems to be no indication of this. I suspect she's very very fond of and protective of President Trump, and everyone should know what that means. A protective woman in her home is a terrifying thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:34 PM (39g3+)

100 What's this about tiny staffs?

Posted by: Jim Acosta at November 13, 2018 03:34 PM (FniFw)

101 Are Melanias staff all super models? Bring em

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:34 PM (bQtop)

102 amid the height of the controversy over his alleged affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels

Yeah, NBC are cocksuckers.

The only 'controversy' about that non-story is in their empty little heads.
=======

Meanwhile, NBC's male talent are operating rape rooms.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 13, 2018 03:34 PM (vg8iE)

103 I wonder what the truth is?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pack Your Panic Room with Grade A Comment Kits from The Outrage Outlet! at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (hLRSq)

104 I can see zero reasoning to fail to accommodate the staff of the First Lady.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (oVJmc)

105 That last thread was shut down by work filters in less than a minute. That's some kind of a record.

Posted by: josephistan at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (7HtZB)

106 Buhbye. Never liked Nielsen. Bushbot.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (r9UYA)

107 The way I read this NBC report surprised me . I thought it made the First Lady look like she was in the right and that these potential firings are deserved.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (kk1fo)

108 Not gonna lie-- was hoping for bikini shots of Neilsen before she dropped from public view.

Posted by: Jeb! at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (LISuA)

109 Kelly clashing with FLOTUS was a bad move. Messing with her staff was guaranteed to piss her off, and do so for no good reason. DJT will get protective of FLOTUS when she gets upset, and Kelly screwed up by getting Nielson the DHS job. She has been a disaster on the border. A lot of controversy and zero real improvement in security. So DJT isn't going to be on Kelly's side for that alone.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (CH+GM)

110 103 I wonder what the truth is?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pack Your Panic Room with Grade A Comment Kits from The Outrage Outlet! at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (hLRSq)

We likely will never know....

Posted by: kraken at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (ffWPP)

111 I wonder who is leaking this juicy insider gossip to NBC and CNN?

Posted by: Dis Lexic, Day Ragnar at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (hrcfq)

112 Nick in Tally: any Florida updates?

Posted by: Ever at November 13, 2018 03:35 PM (QPeHQ)

113 >>>It's like comparing peaches

mackinaw, ftw!

Posted by: concrete girl at November 13, 2018 03:36 PM (9ORmh)

114 I don't think the people leaving being dismissed or none of the above have to be necessarily evil or bad, sometimes they just don't make a good fit for the times

Posted by: willow at November 13, 2018 03:36 PM (aSpXp)

115 "I don't need this shit."

Every day I say the same thing.

Difference is, there's no one below me to fire

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (TN1P5)

116 I think this was first put out by the Amazon Post and the rest of the MFM is now running with everyone is going to get the axe

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (OLCnA)

117 isn't Neilson the one harassed by the DOJ biotch and her puppets?

Posted by: willow at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (aSpXp)

118 Guy Mohawk: "Really NBC? Had to throw in non-pertinent shot?"

If they hadn't, how would you have known it was NBC? Well, I guess it could have been CNN, CBS, ABC, HLN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, LaTimes, NPR...

Wait, where was I going with this again?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (6eEQ+)

119 Serves her right getting fired for trying to land a spot in Ricky's show down at the Copa.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (hqZPQ)

120 Its never going to stop being fascinating watching leftists talk about Obama vs Trump.

Obama was constantly protected and covered for by the press who refused to give his constant stream of horrific scandals and illegality any air time or notice. Obama's constant scandals had a high BODY COUNT and yet he's called scandal-free because there wasn't any sexual stuff reported.

I mean yeah he was boning rappers and movie star men in the oval office, but no reporting.

Trump has no sexual scandals in his presidency either, so they focus on stuff he did over a decade ago or longer, and report every rumor no matter how stupid or false, and scream it from the rooftops for weeks, then say "see, his administration is constantly plagued with problems!"

Its like saying one guy has no problems in school because he comes home neat and tidy, when you're beating the crap out of the other one and blame him for coming home torn up and bruised, claiming he's some kind of troublemaker.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (39g3+)

121 112. Nothing exciting for me today. I am far from the action down south. My two location shifts today were rather uneventful. I get the impression that the real fireworks will start with the impending HAND recount that Scott and Nelson are sure to have.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (wGbBR)

122 Sorry, Club Babalu.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (hqZPQ)

123 115 "I don't need this shit."

Every day I say the same thing.

Difference is, there's no one below me to fire
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (TN1P5)

LOL.... I was self employed doing IT work... until I fired myself...

Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (NgKpN)

124 Radio said DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was going down because _ PDT was dissatisfied with the way she has handled border/caravan/illegal alien problem.

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (6PlZp)

125 I guess peak snark was two hours ago.

oh well, better get something done

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (d7Ww2)

126 Don't piss off an Eastern European woman is the moral of this story.

Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (a0IVu)

127
I suspect Kelly and Nielsen are in the camp urging the president not to declassify FBI documents related to the Russian hoax.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (TAmPV)

128 Kirjsten's gonna be a Victoria's Secret model.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (hqZPQ)

129 Give the Lady what she wants.. I bet Joan Collins wouldn't tolerate this either.

Posted by: ip at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (dM3St)

130 Georgia peaches, isn't there a song about that?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (bQtop)

131 Hell, John Kelly could go become a Victoria's Secret model.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:39 PM (hqZPQ)

132 Kelly clashing with FLOTUS was a bad move. Messing with her staff was guaranteed to piss her off, and do so for no good reason. DJT will get protective of FLOTUS when she gets upset,
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Happy wife, happy life.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 13, 2018 03:39 PM (vg8iE)

133 130 Georgia peaches, isn't there a song about that?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (bQtop)

I could eat one for hours...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 03:39 PM (bcbK8)

134 Mira Ricardo ... not so much.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:39 PM (hqZPQ)

135 126 Don't piss off an Eastern European woman is the moral of this story.
Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (a0IVu)

No mentions of Polonium or Novichok, though...

Posted by: Hikaru at November 13, 2018 03:39 PM (UnA8+)

136 131 Hell, John Kelly could go become a Victoria's Secret model.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:39 PM (hqZPQ)

LMAO

Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 03:39 PM (a0IVu)

137 This will make Bolton happy. Didn't he have an argument with Kelly over Nielsen a few months back?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 03:39 PM (NFEMn)

138 101 Are Melanias staff all super models? Bring em
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:34 PM (bQtop)

Pretty sure the staff member that helps coordinate her wardrobe is a guy. But, might be available?

Posted by: Ever at November 13, 2018 03:40 PM (QPeHQ)

139 FLOTUS is from Eastern Europe so I'll assume she is a nationalist, hates commies, and understands the importance of strong borders and culture. Better than the previous dipshits working in the White House.

Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 03:40 PM (W3lnd)

140 Ever: "I hope Kobach takes it. He would be perfect for the immigration and voter fraud aspects."

Excellent suggestion. You are wise.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 13, 2018 03:41 PM (6eEQ+)

141 I don't know that Melania has the President's ear as much as Bolton. Bolton makes sense on the Near East (always has) and Kelly, by contrast, is Bushian.

Kelly and Bolton got into a tiff 18 October which the media described as a "shouting match". I don't know if it was noted in a main article here but it was certainly noted in the comments.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 13, 2018 03:41 PM (ykYG2)

142 Hands on you ankles
Grab your toes
Shake your ass

That's the way
that's the way
you do the Reggie
you do the Reggie

Love me Love me
Rag

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 03:41 PM (6PlZp)

143 Don't piss off an Eastern European woman is the moral of this story.

Trust me that the Scandi womenz are only once removed and close cousins to them..

Posted by: IP at November 13, 2018 03:41 PM (dM3St)

144 "There have been instances where the East Wing staff were not treated as equals to the male-dominated decision makers in Chief Kelly's office,"

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I hate this kind of bullsh*t.

You know who isn't equal? Pretty much everybody. You know who is better than you at something? Somebody else.

Suck it up, buttercup. Vaginas, melanin, and/or liking redheads/blondes/sucking cock doesn't give +3 to every roll.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and prayers for RBG 🐘 at November 13, 2018 03:41 PM (LX21o)

145 Radio said DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was going down because _ PDT was dissatisfied with the way she has handled border/caravan/illegal alien problem.

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (6PlZp)

If true then that has nothing to do with any WH squabble. And Trump does have a history of letting go people who do not perform the way he wants them to.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pack Your Panic Room with Grade A Comment Kits from The Outrage Outlet! at November 13, 2018 03:41 PM (hLRSq)

146 Ricarel lady sounds swampy...she's been clashing with Mattis since the beginning over Pentagon appointments.

https://twitter.com/AaronMehta/status/1062388954002046976

Posted by: Lizzy at November 13, 2018 03:42 PM (W+vEI)

147 22 This is disturbing. The FLOTUS shouldn't really have any role in these decisions.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (RD7QR)

Please. They always have and they always will. It's the nature of having a married man as prez.

Posted by: Sooner at November 13, 2018 03:42 PM (Fs5vw)

148 Looks like Bob from NSA is gonna get a new boss.

Posted by: wth at November 13, 2018 03:42 PM (HgMAr)

149 Willowed:

421
Even though the corgis are gone, I feel compelled to explain that my cat
was not eating normally, but was eating some, and when the vet said
"bad teeth" I switched him to wet food for about six weeks before
scheduling the oral surgery and he would like one sort of canned food
for about a week and then start eating only about 1/2 a ration so he
probably had some issue with his digestive tract and was heading fast
for the rainbow gate anyway. But I was still emotionally raw about the
anesthesia killing him the next morning after that surgery.

Posted by: paleRider at November 13, 2018
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My late Tatiana the Wonder Kitten passed away at age 3.5 years -- pneumonia after gum cleaning under anesthesia, she was pulling through that, and then her little heart gave out. I wonder if the surgery caused the pneumonia and the heart strain?

I'd gone to the same vet for more than 10 years. I left a message about it and that I didn't blame her, and I never got a condolence call or note or anything. Fuggit, there are other veterinarians in town.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 13, 2018 03:42 PM (yT080)

150 The Allman Brothers Band are in the top 3 of all bands ever

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:42 PM (bQtop)

151 The big problem with staffing the White House is that nearly everyone qualified or experienced is a Deep State GOPe or even Democrat. And further complicating matters is that President Trump pulled in some deep state Bush holdovers to help him with his transition team and building hiring lists, so he got a lot of knives in him from that. Its not an easy row to hoe, but Trump has much harder ones already in his path.

And meanwhile with all the distractions, he got nothing done on voter fraud and now we're all gonna pay the price for that inexcusable failure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:42 PM (39g3+)

152 Remember when the media kept trying to push that Melania wasn't even going to live in the White House and wasn't going to have anything at all to do with being First Lady?

Posted by: buzzion at November 13, 2018 03:42 PM (WaxcS)

153 32 Michell Obama at one point had ~30 people on her staff, Melania has 5, IIRC. Harassing her is petty BS, if this account is true.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 13, 2018 03:24 PM (W+vEI)

And pointless, to boot. Is the best use of the WH staff's time?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (YqDXo)

154 I knew..

Posted by: Bob from NSA at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (dM3St)

155 If I were PDT's chief of staff or press secretary:

Me: Mr. President I really think you should give Jim Acosta back his press credentials, but under one condition.

PDT: Why would I do that, Sheep? That guy is a lying self-promoting scumbag

Me: You haven't heard my one condition

PDT: This had better be good

Me: Oh it is Mr. President, you should start carrying a taser...

PDT: You're not suggesting...

Me: Oh yes Mr. President, the next time he gets out of line, hit him with the taser. It'll drop him like a sack of potatoes.

PDT: Like a sack of potatoes, nice!

Me: thank you Mr. President

Epilogue: It's a very good thing I'm not the President's chief of staff or press secretary.

Posted by: justasheep at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (SlLZF)

156 Gee, Bushbots not wanting to shut down the border. My shocked face o_o

Posted by: Under Fire at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (r9UYA)

157 Miss me yet?
Posted by: No Drama Obama at November 13, 2018 03:30 PM (HgMAr)

Not really.

Posted by: Chris Stevens, Ty Woods, Glenn Doherty, Hundreds of US spies outed and killed by your Obama's sloppi at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (XROPS)

158 Georgia peaches, isn't there a song about that?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:38 PM (bQtop)

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There are water tanks in SC and Georgia that look like enormous peaches. Also strangely colored bottoms depending on the angle you're driving past.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and prayers for RBG 🐘 at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (LX21o)

159 Not easy to drain the swamp. Also MFM reporting their take on what DS moles fed them. So whatever. Presidents get to shake up their cabinets.

Seeing as how any additional MAGA progress for the next 2 years is going to have to come from the cabinet or EOs, since the Dems will do nothing but harass Trump with improper subpoenas, he needs the best fighters he can get.

Posted by: paleRider at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (eASYU)

160 >>The Allman Brothers Band are in the top 3 of all bands ever

Not even in the Top 10.

Posted by: garrett at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (vWGZf)

161 I think we should all sue to work at the White House. It's some sort of discrimination if they won't let us I'm certain.
I'm sure we can find a lawyer who'll agree.

Bill of Rights! Penumbra of the poem written on a statue in New York Harbor!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (37IEG)

162 Melania being the cause of this; Is there any information sourced other than propaganda rags?

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 03:44 PM (6PlZp)

163 okay, found the commentary on Bolton and Kelly's cock fight

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Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 13, 2018 03:44 PM (ykYG2)

164 They always have and they always will. It's the nature of having a married man as prez.

Yeah I am not fond of it, and I especially despised the "co presidency" crap the Clintons puked, but there's something to it. You cannot reasonably expect the president's wife to have no influence or say whatsoever in what happens in her home.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:44 PM (39g3+)

165 Eat A Peach

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:44 PM (bQtop)

166 121 Nothing exciting for me today. I am far from the action down south. My two location shifts today were rather uneventful. I get the impression that the real fireworks will start with the impending HAND recount that Scott and Nelson are sure to have.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 13, 2018 03:37 PM (wGbBR)

Thanks! Hoping that there would be some way possible to go back to election night totals and avoid the hand recounts, but appears that is not going to happen. Still praying that Matt Caldwell will be able to get some answers via the courts.

Posted by: Ever at November 13, 2018 03:45 PM (QPeHQ)

167 I think all of the cabinet/swamp positions should be advertised on Indeed. The perfect candidate is out there...Trump just needs to clear a few days to go through all of the applications.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:45 PM (hqZPQ)

168 If true then that has nothing to do with any WH squabble. And Trump does have a history of letting go people who do not perform the way he wants them to.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pack Your Panic Room with Grade A Comment Kits from The Outrage Outlet! at November 13, 2018 03:41 PM (hLRSq)

That is so refreshing. If only the entire government worked like that.

Posted by: LASue at November 13, 2018 03:45 PM (XROPS)

169 We're not gonna fix this with votes, and no "civil war" is going to happen.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (39g3+)

I came to this realization, too. We passed the tipping point years ago. Now we're watching the death of Western civilization.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 13, 2018 03:45 PM (vkS2Z)

170 I suspect Melania has detected backstabbery in Kelly's coterie and is trying to protect Donald
Posted by: Votermom's phone on Happy Happy Joy Joy SpaceForce

I think that is a lot closer to the truth that what was said in the "news".

Also, Nielsen and Ricardel were choices of Kelly, and Trump is not satisfied with either of them. Which might come down to Kelly either swallowing hard and doing the President's bidding or walking out/asked to resign.

There are other competent people to be Chief of Staff. Ronald Reagan went through a bunch of them in his 8 years as President. And some people look good going in, and then stink up the place. It's less about political philosophy than about getting the team pulling in the right direction and keeping things organized for the President.

But Chief of Staff HAS to be on the same page as the President in how things are done.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at November 13, 2018 03:45 PM (vcOmj)

171 "There have been instances where the East Wing staff were not treated as equals to the male-dominated decision makers in Chief Kelly's office,"

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I hate this kind of bullsh*t.

You know who isn't equal? Pretty much everybody. You know who is better than you at something? Somebody else.

Suck it up, buttercup. Vaginas, melanin, and/or liking redheads/blondes/sucking cock doesn't give +3 to every roll.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and prayers for RBG at November 13, 2018 03:41 PM (LX21o)

This.

Lessee, FLOTUS's makeup artist not treated as an equal to SecDef? Imagine.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 03:45 PM (YqDXo)

172 The big problem with staffing the White House
Here's a thought. What if the hoard all sent resumes to the WH..
OK, so it isn't a particularly good thought

Posted by: IP at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (dM3St)

173 It's a very good thing I'm not the President's chief of staff or press secretary.
Posted by: justasheep at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (SlLZF)

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I would be PDT's PressSec for free. I would promise to wear a hair shirt and forgo meat, alcohol, and sex for the rest of my life like a monk, for the sheer pleasure I'd derive from that job.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (AzW6q)

174 124
Radio said DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was going down because _ PDT
was dissatisfied with the way she has handled border/caravan/illegal
alien problem.

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018
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Hey, Kirstjen. Got just one question for you, babe.

How tough is it to just follow the damn law?

(Edited down to: You had ONE job. . . .)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (yT080)

175 Do people really like this part of the deal with Trump? The constant firings of people he hired that are supposedly now disloyal or insubordinate?

If Trump stopped with all the silly drama and focused on what got him elected, he'd have a lot more success.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (UfkIY)

176 7
Guessing we don't have all the facts but why would Kelly slight the
First Lady that way? Does not seem smart to have the President's wife
pissed off at you.

Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 03:21 PM (a0IVu)

ask me. this is true.

Posted by: zombie Donald Regan at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (UsCnO)

177 Nielsen was the wrong fit for the job. DHS needs a strong person like Trump himself and one committed to border control.

How serious are you about homeland security when you make old ladies take off their shoes at the airport while thousands walk across your southern border loaded with drugs, weapons and disease?

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (jLBUC)

178 121. There have been filings by Scott (and I assume Caldwel) to do just that. No idea what their status is. Seems doubtful they will get rolled back any further than what was sent to the SoS.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (wGbBR)

179 >>FLOTUS is from Eastern Europe so I'll assume she is a nationalist, hates commies, and understands the importance of strong borders and culture. Better than the previous dipshits working in the White House.

Heh.

Just to add to the palace intrigue, Ricarel is Croation and GOPe - worked for Bob Dole. W.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (W+vEI)

180 If true then that has nothing to do with any WH squabble. And Trump does have a history of letting go people who do not perform the way he wants them to.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pack Your Panic Room with Grade A Comment Kits from The Outrage Outlet! at November 13, 2018 03:41 PM (hLRSq)

What a concept.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (YqDXo)

181 Well, this was expected. Trump just doesn't act the way a normal government employee does. He's all private sector: He expects results. If not, you can hit the road. There's no permanent cushy desk job for anybody working for him. And that's good.

And anyway, as somebody here said he needs some wartime people around him now.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (8tNRg)

182 This is disturbing. The FLOTUS shouldn't really have any role in these decisions.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (RD7QR)

Wives of politicians can have influence and this is reality, i.e. The Petticoat Affair in Jackson's administration.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pack Your Panic Room with Grade A Comment Kits from The Outrage Outlet! at November 13, 2018 03:47 PM (hLRSq)

183 164 They always have and they always will. It's the nature of having a married man as prez.

Yeah I am not fond of it, and I especially despised the "co presidency" crap the Clintons puked, but there's something to it. You cannot reasonably expect the president's wife to have no influence or say whatsoever in what happens in her home.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:44 PM (39g3+)

And Melania has been a lot better than the previous bitch. I don't see her fingerprints all over a new school lunch standard that is designed to starve children.

Posted by: buzzion at November 13, 2018 03:47 PM (WaxcS)

184 Key words, At the pleasure of the President. And you can bet if Malania put her heel in his shoes with a glare of "So darling, what are you going to do to remedy this situation," then PDJFT is gonna to fix it.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 13, 2018 03:47 PM (LG6g7)

185 Radio said DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was going down

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Are we not doing "phrasing!" anymore?

Posted by: josephistan at November 13, 2018 03:47 PM (7HtZB)

186 Okay I'll get you room on AF1 for all your important work
/eyeroll

Posted by: John Kelly at November 13, 2018 03:47 PM (IZvH6)

187 It is not the job of the First lady to publicly call for somebody's firing. That is her husband's responsibility. Trump better get a handle on things, and quickly before it spirals out of control.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 13, 2018 03:47 PM (xPl2J)

188 Just to add to the palace intrigue, Ricarel is Croation and GOPe - worked for Bob Dole. W.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (W+vEI)

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Dole AND Bush?! Fit her for an iron mask.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 03:47 PM (AzW6q)

189 If Kobach wasn't interested in being governor of Kansas (as pretty much everyone has figured out), why the fuck did he run?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:47 PM (hqZPQ)

190 >>There have been instances where the East Wing staff were not treated as equals to the male-dominated decision makers in Chief Kelly's office,

There are right and wrong ways to make a sammich. Nobody should ever get complacent about these things.

Posted by: garrett at November 13, 2018 03:48 PM (vWGZf)

191 Do people really like this part of the deal with Trump? The constant firings of people he hired that are supposedly now disloyal or insubordinate?

I don't mind the firings even though that is kind of his trademark, but what I don't like is the bad hires to begin with. He takes too many risks and is accepting bad advice from somewhere.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:48 PM (39g3+)

192

EM MACKINAW PEACH FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at November 13, 2018 03:48 PM (GEhPL)

193 It is not the job of the First lady to publicly call for somebody's firing. That is her husband's responsibility.

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I highly doubt she tweeted that w/o permission, or possible even direct instruction.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 03:49 PM (AzW6q)

194 173 It's a very good thing I'm not the President's chief of staff or press secretary.
Posted by: justasheep at November 13, 2018 03:43 PM (SlLZF)

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I would be PDT's PressSec for free. I would promise to wear a hair shirt and forgo meat, alcohol, and sex for the rest of my life like a monk, for the sheer pleasure I'd derive from that job.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (AzW6q)

See, I couldn't do that. I'd need more meat and sex and alcohol.

Speaking of, I need more meat and sex.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 03:49 PM (bcbK8)

195 175 Do people really like this part of the deal with Trump? The constant firings of people he hired that are supposedly now disloyal or insubordinate?

If Trump stopped with all the silly drama and focused on what got him elected, he'd have a lot more success.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (UfkIY)

And what if those people he hired promised to work on the stuff that got him elected and ended up being incompetent at it or refusing to do it? Should they get to remain in those positions just because Trump hired them so now you can't fire them because it will look bad?

Posted by: buzzion at November 13, 2018 03:49 PM (WaxcS)

196 -
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Melania being the cause of this; Is there any information sourced other than propaganda rags?

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 03:44 PM

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We don't even know if the "this" exists.

Posted by: irright at November 13, 2018 03:49 PM (pMGkg)

197 The next press secretary is gonna have a helluva time matching what SHS has been able to do. she is hysterical!

Perhaps TuCa could give it a whirl.
Or Michelle Malkin

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 13, 2018 03:49 PM (d7Ww2)

198 It is not the job of the First lady to publicly call for somebody's firing.

I agree. There are private methods available.

Posted by: Lucrecia Borja at November 13, 2018 03:49 PM (ykYG2)

199
Let us not forget one important fact, the news media can not be trusted.

Posted by: Dis Lexic, Day Ragnar at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (hrcfq)

200 >>Speaking of, I need more meat and sex.

Don't discount the cheeses.

Posted by: Chris Pagano at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (vWGZf)

201 Great, now I've got "Copacabana" in my head.

Her name is Lola
She was a showgirl

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (RD7QR)

202 175 Do people really like this part of the deal with Trump? The constant firings of people he hired that are supposedly now disloyal or insubordinate?

If Trump stopped with all the silly drama and focused on what got him elected, he'd have a lot more success.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (UfkIY)

Disloyal, insubordinate, or just not getting it done. Hell yes, I'm on board with that, if that's what is happening.

Not all hires work out. You don't find out whether someone is disloyal, insubordinate, or just not getting it done until they're on the job. It's not as though they put those characteristics on their resumes. Also, things change. They can start out one way, and end up another.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (YqDXo)

203 The First Lady wasn't involving herself in issues unrelated to her. The conflict is directly related to how the First Lady believes her and her staff were treated while performing official duties as the First Lady.

It's not like the conflict was in regard to healthcare reform.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (kk1fo)

204 I don't see her fingerprints all over a new school lunch standard that is designed to starve children.

This is true, she's not pushing any new national policy or trying to write law without any authority or being elected (or remotest possibility of accountability). Every first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt seems to think she needs some big issue to make her own and fix the world with. They need to shut up and make sammiches for the man of the house.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (39g3+)

205 See, I couldn't do that. I'd need more meat and sex and alcohol.

Speaking of, I need more meat and sex.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 03:49 PM (bcbK

MEE TOO!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (F4u7C)

206 Blago, I think you dialed an incorrect address on your computer. What you want is vox dot com.

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (6PlZp)

207 Wives of politicians can have influence and this is reality, i.e. The Petticoat Affair in Jackson's administration.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pack Your Panic Room with Grade A Comment Kits from The Outrage Outlet! at November 13, 2018 03:47 PM (hLRSq)

Pretty much anyone in a leadership role has to deal with it. Military officers are used to the idea that your wife can and will affect your career. Did she piss off the BC's wife? You're going to pay the price. She charmed the XO during a family day BBQ? You'll see the benefits.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (wCmLp)

208 >>We don't even know if the "this" exists.

It's not like knowing that would that stop us.

Posted by: garrett at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (vWGZf)

209 192, that made me laugh

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (bQtop)

210 CHAOS IN THE WHITE HOUSE

Posted by: MSNBCCNNCBS at November 13, 2018 03:51 PM (HgMAr)

211 After seeing how the media literally lied about every aspect of trumps press conference I do not believe one fucking word of this report.

Likely they are spinning this as petty vindictive crap rather than legitimate personnel changes.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at November 13, 2018 03:51 PM (UTKR8)

212 Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (UfkIY)

If Trump would stop all the drama???
So none of the actions and comments by the people involved are to blame? How fucking dense to immediately blame Trump!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at November 13, 2018 03:51 PM (jjaLl)

213 then I can understand her frustration with her people being given the short end of the stick

The Paolo will provide her, how you say? The long end of the stick.

Posted by: The Paolo at November 13, 2018 03:51 PM (p6e8W)

214 Will hate to see Gen Kelly and Sarah Sanders go. Only one who could replace Sarah is maybe Dennis Miller

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 03:51 PM (T4oHT)

215 I suppose the Dems will want to examine if these resignations or firings are okay.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 03:51 PM (37IEG)

216 70
Think back. How much power did Hillary wield back in the BJ days?

A lot....

Posted by: Sponge at November 13, 2018 03:29 PM (F4u7C)

Hillary never had any "BJ days".

How do you think we got Monica, Gennifer, and all the rest?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (UsCnO)

217 Do people really like this part of the deal with Trump? The constant firings of people he hired that are supposedly now disloyal or insubordinate?

If Trump stopped with all the silly drama and focused on what got him elected, he'd have a lot more success.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (UfkIY)

I take it that pot has been legalized in your state.

Posted by: Sooner at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (Fs5vw)

218 Speaking of firings....firings at Starbucks Corporate. Only a few hundred, but it's a start.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (bcbK8)

219 Great, now I've got "Copacabana" in my head.

Great, now I have "Star Wars Cantina" in my head.

Music and blasters
And old Jedi Masters

Posted by: His name was Solo at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (sZRzw)

220
Oh boy. Acting AG Whitaker is consulting with ethics officals inside the DOJ about recusal.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (TAmPV)

221
Because the media would NEVER lie or wildly speculate about happenings in the Trump administration.

Was it just two threads ago we discovered CNN has 50 people working the White House for news? 50 people competing to throw shit at a moving fan.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (e7O7B)

222 his name was Rico
he wore a diamond

Posted by: wth at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (HgMAr)

223 >>If Trump stopped with all the silly drama and focused on what got him elected, he'd have a lot more success.

The problem is that half the silly drama is a creation of an MSM who've decided rumor, DC intrigue, leaks and flat-out lies are headline news. Think it would be easier to name a week where someone *didn't* declare Trump was about to fire Kelly or Sessions - have there been any?

Add to that: Trump has had people planted in his campaign and administration committed to undermining him, by both Democrats and GOPe. Is it all his fault he has to deal with the sh#t they stir up in order to kneecap his success?

Trump is known for drama, for sure, but he does not own all of the drama in the DC - not by a long shot. Enough blame to go around.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (W+vEI)

224 Elon Musk's real name is Duane Scrimshaw. Before he was a Bond villain, he was the senior henchman Mister Scrim.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (J3Q5M)

225 210 CHAOS IN THE WHITE HOUSE
Posted by: MSNBCCNNCBS at November 13, 2018 03:51 PM (HgMAr)

TROLLS IN THE DUNGEON

Posted by: PROFESSOR QUIRREL at November 13, 2018 03:53 PM (d7Ww2)

226 back in the BJ days

Wait.. those were a thing?

Posted by: IP at November 13, 2018 03:53 PM (dM3St)

227 I don't mind the firings even though that is kind of his trademark, but what I don't like is the bad hires to begin with. He takes too many risks and is accepting bad advice from somewhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:48 PM (39g3+)

Imagine how many people he had to hire, and in short order. It was inevitable that some fraction of them would not work out.

How do you know how someone will perform in a job that they've never held, e.g., WH chief of staff, Secretary of DHS, AG, SoS, etc. until they're actually in the job?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

228 214 Will hate to see Gen Kelly go.

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 03:51 PM (T4oHT)

Its OK... we can still have Fred Astaire...

Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 13, 2018 03:53 PM (NgKpN)

229 Oh boy. Acting AG Whitaker is consulting with ethics officals inside the DOJ about recusal.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (TAmPV)

--------

Well, hopefully it's to laugh in their faces at the suggestion that they'd know ethics from a hole in the ground, and then to tell them to lawyer up.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 03:53 PM (AzW6q)

230 Do people really like this part of the deal with Trump? The constant firings of people he hired that are supposedly now disloyal or insubordinate?

If Trump stopped with all the silly drama and focused on what got him elected, he'd have a lot more success.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 03:46 PM (UfkIY)

This is the kind of conventional wisdom hot take that gets you a stateroom with a balcony and a copy of my wife's room key.

Posted by: Bill Krystol at November 13, 2018 03:53 PM (KUaJL)

231 Oh boy. Acting AG Whitaker is consulting with ethics officals inside the DOJ about recusal.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (TAmPV)
****************************
This is insane.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 13, 2018 03:54 PM (hECVl)

232 220

Oh boy. Acting AG Whitaker is consulting with ethics officals inside the DOJ about recusal.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (TAmPV)
Let me guess he held a press conference and told everyone that.Or is it another leaky room over at the DOJ passing info along to the press so they can do some wishcasting?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 03:54 PM (37IEG)

233 226 back in the BJ days

Wait.. those were a thing?

Posted by: IP at November 13, 2018 03:53 PM (dM3St)

Yeah, back when I was single it was just about every Friday.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 03:54 PM (bcbK8)

234 231. It's blackmail. Hopefully he was put in place after a very thorough conversation about the outlook of this situation.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 13, 2018 03:55 PM (wGbBR)

235 Hillary never had any "BJ days".

How do you think we got Monica, Gennifer, and all the rest?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (UsCnO)

I never said she was supplying B or J......

Posted by: Sponge at November 13, 2018 03:55 PM (F4u7C)

236 How do you know how someone will perform in a job that they've never held, e.g., WH chief of staff, Secretary of DHS, AG, SoS, etc. until they're actually in the job?

Well, and he's expecting a level of ability and perspective extremely rare in government positions. But I believe he was handed a crappy list filled with Deep State moles by someone in the transition team

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:55 PM (39g3+)

237 Imagine how many people he had to hire, and in short order. It was inevitable that some fraction of them would not work out.

How do you know how someone will perform in a job that they've never held, e.g., WH chief of staff, Secretary of DHS, AG, SoS, etc. until they're actually in the job?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

And the simple fact is that the Military Upper Echelon is ALL about Politics... and building connections through Staffing.

Kelly had a lot of experience at it.

Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 13, 2018 03:55 PM (NgKpN)

238 I don't mind the firings even though that is kind of his trademark, but what I don't like is the bad hires to begin with. He takes too many risks and is accepting bad advice from somewhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

__________________________

If you yourself hire these people and then a short time later are having to fire them, I tend to think you're the problem and it's not some giant conspiracy.

Sort of like that line if you meet one asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you're the asshole.

FWIW, I really doubt any of this has anything to do with ideological differences. I doubt Trump keeps accidentally hiring closet liberals.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 03:55 PM (UfkIY)

239 I make a mean Catalan pa amb tomàquet but for some reason Paolo never wanted a taste :-(

Posted by: Lucrecia Borja at November 13, 2018 03:55 PM (ykYG2)

240 175 Do people really like this part of the deal with Trump?

----------

No problem at all. Barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: Horus Heresy at November 13, 2018 03:56 PM (DB16e)

241 Nancy Reagan probably had the most influence on a President in last century.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 13, 2018 03:56 PM (kk1fo)

242 I don't know that much about Nielsen except that she was accosted personally by leftist thugs at a restaurant. If she can't deal with that, if she can't be strong and do her duty in the face of that, then we need someone with more backbone for that position.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 13, 2018 03:56 PM (/qEW2)

243 Who else thinks that all of the mars "Austronuts" will die? Raise your hands

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 03:56 PM (bQtop)

244 224 Elon Musk's real name is Duane Scrimshaw.

long as it's not dwayne dibbley

Posted by: Cat at November 13, 2018 03:56 PM (xGZ+b)

245 51
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:23 PM (39g3+)

I think just the opposite... I think Trump veers more Right.

Which, is not the direction Kelly wants to go.

There have been a number of fights President Trump talked about
having... yet has somehow been talked out of... things like the FISA
documents... or more border security... or taking on Sanctuary cities...

He needs a stronger AG, much stronger head of DHS... and a Chief of Staff willing to fight on all fronts.

Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 13, 2018 03:26 PM (NgKpN)

I'm baack! Rested and ready to go, Mister President!

Posted by: Republican and long term acquantiance Chris Cristie at November 13, 2018 03:56 PM (UsCnO)

246 Make Melania herself the new PressSec.

All press briefings will be conducted in Slovenian.

Don't like it? Hey, English ain't the official language. Get crackin' on your Duolingo, schleprock.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 13, 2018 03:56 PM (AURKQ)

247 Bitch Fight...settles down with Jasmine enhanced PO'O POOR ME flavoured POPCORN......gonna need new china in the dinner.....................

Posted by: saf at November 13, 2018 03:56 PM (5IHGB)

248 Do we see any changes in the team that deals with jobs, trade deals and the economy? Why, no, we don't. They seem to know what they are doing.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 13, 2018 03:57 PM (5HBd1)

249 If any of you are holding tanker cars of oil, I recommend you sell them ASAP.

WTI down $5 to $55/bbl/

Have never seen oil drop like this before....

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:57 PM (hqZPQ)

250 Nancy Reagan probably had the most influence on a President in last century.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 13, 2018 03:56 PM (kk1fo)

Ahem

Posted by: Mrs. Woodrow Wilson at November 13, 2018 03:57 PM (NFEMn)

251 With only two years remaining to us there is zero time left to waste with anyone not 100% a committed fighter. We got a lot of damage to do to the deep state, and we are running out of time.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 13, 2018 03:57 PM (tSXzq)

252 Oh look, Kelly is about to be fired for the 50th time since he took the job! There has been a regular story that Kelly is about to be fired ever since not long after he took the job. One of these days it will probably come true but I wouldn't assign this story any more truth than the the other ones before.

This isn't even Gell-Man amnesia effect. This is where the media has been constantly wrong on the exact same subject and yet people forget the next time they do another wrong story on it.

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at November 13, 2018 03:57 PM (Dgce0)

253 I doubt Trump keeps accidentally hiring closet liberals.

-------

Dude, almost every single GOP legislator, governor, and President, and their staffs that we've ever hired in my lifetime turned out to be closet liberals. Why should this be different?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 03:57 PM (AzW6q)

254 235
Hillary never had any "BJ days".

How do you think we got Monica, Gennifer, and all the rest?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (UsCnO)

I never said she was supplying B or J......

Posted by: Sponge at November 13, 2018 03:55 PM (F4u7C)
Aw, come on, you don't know if Chelsea might have had a sibling except old Webb Hubbell had other plans that night...

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 03:57 PM (37IEG)

255 The next DHS Secretary needs to work to build the wall, profile the hell at airports and then make everybody take their shoes off when they come over the southern border.

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (jLBUC)

256 Might as well Trump!

Posted by: MAGA at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (osSX5)

257 >>Sort of like that line if you meet one asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you're the asshole.

What if you're a proctologist?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (/tuJf)

258 250 Ahem
Posted by: Mrs. Woodrow Wilson at November 13, 2018 03:57 PM (NFEMn)

*whistles as she slowly poisons her husband to death*

Posted by: Mrs. Warren G. Harding at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (UnA8+)

259 And meanwhile with all the distractions, he got nothing done on voter fraud and now we're all gonna pay the price for that inexcusable failure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:42 PM (39g3+)

If President Trump can't score some arrests when ballots are forged and strange vans are videotaped bringing in ballot boxes, he can't put that on "distractions."

I don't really care about Kelly staying or going, and lack of action on illegals is at least as much on the President as his DHS Sec. Ricardel is a Bolton friend, btw, which makes me wonder how or why people think Kelly wants him to stay.

Just more meat for the grinder. Can't imagine this is important enough to cause a pause in the Trump Twitter.

Posted by: trev006 at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (3/Acz)

260 Skip: "Will hate to see Gen Kelly and Sarah Sanders go. Only one who could replace Sarah is maybe Dennis Miller."

Sarah Sanders is irreplaceable. I want her as Press Sec for Trump's second term, his third term, and the terms of those who follow.

She's dynamite. Blowing up all the right people, too.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (6eEQ+)

261
Speaking of firings....firings at Starbucks Corporate. Only a few hundred, but it's a start.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism

Coffee Party

Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz is assembling a crack PR-team, including the campaign manager for John McCain's 2008 presidential run, as he considers challenging Donald Trump in the 2020 election.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (aKsyK)

262 Who else thinks that all of the mars "Austronuts" will die? Raise your hands

Well, pretty much everyone else will die too. It's all timing.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (p6e8W)

263 Oh boy. Acting AG Whitaker is consulting with ethics officals inside the DOJ about recusal.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (TAmPV)
****************************
This is insane.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 13, 2018 03:54 PM (hECVl)

Depends on what Whitaker's made of.
There's consulting and then there's consulting.
Sometimes the boss's questions aren't questions at all...

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (6PlZp)

264 If you yourself hire these people and then a short time later are having to fire them, I tend to think you're the problem and it's not some giant conspiracy.

Sort of like that line if you meet one asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you're the asshole.

FWIW, I really doubt any of this has anything to do with ideological differences. I doubt Trump keeps accidentally hiring closet liberals.
Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 03:55 PM (UfkIY)

Consider how many MLB managers and football coaches get the boot. And that after years of track record in closely related jobs, e.g., managing in the minors, or acting as assistant coaches, so you've a pretty good read on how this guy ought to do.

Yet many of them inevitably do NOT work out, despite all the information available to the GM.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

265 Oil is falling so fast I think Iraq is going to invade Kuwait again.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (hqZPQ)

266 214 Will hate to see Gen Kelly and Sarah Sanders go. Only one who could replace Sarah is maybe Dennis Miller
Posted by: Skip
________

* clears throat *

Posted by: Gilbert Gottfried at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (9vQJW)

267 While I can understand Trump's frustration with all the roadblocks to doing something about illegal immigration, I'm not sure bringing in some to replace Kirstjen Nielsen is going to do much.

He's hog tied by shitty laws and bad optics.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (so+oy)

268 If you yourself hire these people and then a short time later are having to fire them, I tend to think you're the problem and it's not some giant conspiracy.

If you're going to jump into idiotic phrases and unwarranted, childish conclusions, nobody here is going to take you seriously.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:00 PM (39g3+)

269 If any of you are holding tanker cars of oil, I recommend you sell them ASAP.

WTI down $5 to $55/bbl/

Have never seen oil drop like this before....
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

______________

I dumped a lot of energy stocks over the last few months.

I almost wonder if oil/gas stocks are going to be like coal where nobody wants to own them anymore.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:00 PM (UfkIY)

270
Sort of like that line if you meet one asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you're the asshole.

What if you're a proctologist?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (/tuJf)

You get to poke assholes in the eye all day.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 04:00 PM (TAmPV)

271 Not to start the man /woman fight again ( I guess I am) but men for the most part can have highly heated business discussions and not take it personal after all is said and done. I don't think that's the case with women.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 13, 2018 04:00 PM (kk1fo)

272 JackStraw: "What if you're a proctologist?"

You're an asshole with a shingle.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (6eEQ+)

273 (Sanders)'s dynamite.

With a laser beam

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (ykYG2)

274 Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 03:55 PM (UfkIY)

Thank goodness Obama never fired anyone or if he did the press always reported on it immediately./s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (AllCR)

275 I Sanders goes it should be by way of promotion.

Maybe supervisor of press secretaries and press security.

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (6PlZp)

276 257 >>Sort of like that line if you meet one asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you're the asshole.

What if you're a proctologist?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (/tuJf)

Then your job stinks?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (bcbK8)

277 266 * clears throat *

Posted by: Gilbert Gottfried at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (9vQJW)

"Jim Acosta, WHO RAPED AND KILLED A GIRL IN 1990!!!"

Posted by: Hikaru at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (UnA8+)

278 Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz is assembling a crack PR-team, including the campaign manager for John McCain's 2008 presidential run, as he considers challenging Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (aKsyK)

Schulz is toast. He might as well hire zombie Amelia Earhart to fly him around the country.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (YqDXo)

279 I almost wonder if oil/gas stocks are going to be like coal where nobody wants to own them anymore.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:00 PM (UfkIY)

What is causing this route? It was at $70/bbl not that long ago.

Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (a0IVu)

280 >>You get to poke assholes in the eye all day.

What has brown done for you lately?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (/tuJf)

281 A lot of concern trolling in this thread.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 04:02 PM (bcbK8)

282 280 >>You get to poke assholes in the eye all day.

What has brown done for you lately?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (/tuJf)

Brown hasn't done shit for me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 04:02 PM (bcbK8)

283 If I can't be PressSec, though, I nominate Dmitry Peskov. He knows the proper ways of handling journalists.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 04:02 PM (AzW6q)

284 So is Trump just going to go it alone? What could they be arguing about with Melanie Trump? Fashion choices?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at November 13, 2018 04:03 PM (hSQF+)

285 Test

Posted by: Diogenes at November 13, 2018 04:03 PM (0tfLf)

286 If you're going to jump into idiotic phrases and unwarranted, childish conclusions, nobody here is going to take you seriously.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

_______________

I don't think it's an outlandish conclusion that Trump's not an easy person to work for. Or he makes really bad hiring decisions. It's one or the other.

If Melania is involved (which I would consider to be really jumping the gun) than it really is a shit show over there.

But I don't care about being taken "seriously" at all. Do you?

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:03 PM (UfkIY)

287 Sort of like that line if you meet one asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you're the asshole.

What if you're a proctologist?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (/tuJf)

Or married to Hope Solo?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:03 PM (NFEMn)

288 285
Test

Posted by: Diogenes at November 13, 2018 04:03 PM (0tfLf)

____

SHHHH.. nobody tell him..

Posted by: IP at November 13, 2018 04:03 PM (dM3St)

289 I Sanders goes it should be by way of promotion.

Maybe supervisor of press secretaries and press security.

Grand Executioner.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 13, 2018 04:04 PM (p6e8W)

290 Blago was here during the presidential election times. He had a better sense of humor then.

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 04:04 PM (6PlZp)

291 261
Speaking of firings....firings at Starbucks Corporate. Only a few hundred, but it's a start.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism

Coffee Party

Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz is assembling a crack PR-team, including the campaign manager for John McCain's 2008 presidential run, as he considers challenging Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (aKsyK)

So I've heard.

Bring him on.

He hasn't had anyone talk back to him in a while. Watching Trump deal with him will be fun. And, honestly, he'd be better than Camel Toe or other professional politicians.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 04:04 PM (bcbK8)

292 What could they be arguing about with Melanie Trump? Fashion choices?

I want to hear Lindsey Graham's ruling on that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 13, 2018 04:04 PM (ykYG2)

293 Poking the brown, means poking the Victoria Secrets new model's

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 04:05 PM (bQtop)

294 Why would Sarah Huckabee Sanders need to go? She is doing an outstanding job.

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2018 04:05 PM (jLBUC)

295 So is Trump just going to go it alone? What could they be arguing about with Melanie Trump? Fashion choices?
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at November 13, 2018 04:03 PM (hSQF+)

Promotions for her staff, not arranging travel and accommodations for aides when she travels, etc.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 13, 2018 04:05 PM (wCmLp)

296 Kirstjen Nielsen - No way anyone is that smoking hot - and performs a Cabinet-level job effectively.

No way.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:05 PM (LL1Be)

297 Imagine the train wreck that would have been a Hillarhoid Administration. Or, God help us, a Kameltoe one. I understand she is legendary for being a raving bitch on steroids to her staff.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 04:05 PM (YqDXo)

298 He hasn't had anyone talk back to him in a while. Watching Trump deal with him will be fun. And, honestly, he'd be better than Camel Toe or other professional politicians.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 04:04 PM (bcbK

True, but McCain's campaign manager??? And he expects to win?

Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (a0IVu)

299 214 Will hate to see Gen Kelly and Sarah Sanders go. Only one who could replace Sarah is maybe Dennis Miller
Posted by: Skip
________

* clears throat *

Posted by: Gilbert Gottfried at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (9vQJW)

Ted Nugent for press secretary

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (M+Lyo)

300 But I don't care about being taken "seriously" at all.

Clearly.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (39g3+)

301 If you're going to jump into idiotic phrases and unwarranted, childish conclusions, nobody here is going to take you seriously.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Seriously, is this an official change in policy?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (oVJmc)

302 Trumps tag line is what again? what? "You're what"?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (37IEG)

303 What is causing this route? It was at $70/bbl not that long ago.
Posted by: IC

____________

No idea, but the "smart money" seems to just no longer want anything to do with energy stocks anymore.

I'm mostly an index investor, I just dabbled a little when things looked really cheap. Made some money on the ones I sold like Shell, Chevron, BP, Exxon but just never really want to invest in energy anymore.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (UfkIY)

304 278 Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz is assembling a crack PR-team, including the campaign manager for John McCain's 2008 presidential run, as he considers challenging Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (aKsyK)

Schulz is toast. He might as well hire zombie Amelia Earhart to fly him around the country.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 04:01 PM (YqDXo)

Is that that Steve Schmidt asshole? Please, God, let this happen.

Posted by: rickl at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (xjiRE)

305 You're an asshole with a shingle.

One in thirty baby boomers suffers shingles of the asshole. Get yourself examined and buy our expensive drug.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (fuK7c)

306 Machiavelli v. Sun-Tzu cage match.

Posted by: klaftern at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (RuIsu)

307 Unless I see firings, (and I'd like to see the head of Human Services and Betsy Devos fired), I'm going with FAKE NEWS.

Posted by: Sooner at November 13, 2018 04:07 PM (Fs5vw)

308 If Nielsen goes - and I have no idea how well she's been performing - I want Vlad the Impaler for Sec of DHS.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 13, 2018 04:07 PM (YqDXo)

309 back in the BJ days?

Gonna be an early knight.

Posted by: Sisters Zoot and Dingo at November 13, 2018 04:07 PM (ctuyM)

310 Hearing this Mira woman is a leaker and FLOTUS knows it.

Posted by: Pam at November 13, 2018 04:07 PM (qRq6C)

311 Ahem
Posted by: Mrs. Woodrow Wilson at November 13, 2018 03:57 PM (NFEMn)

Okay voluntarily influenced. Besides she just makes it under the century mark.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 13, 2018 04:07 PM (kk1fo)

312 I love this place

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 04:08 PM (bQtop)

313 The boss may not be right but he is always the boss

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at November 13, 2018 04:08 PM (P4Pk9)

314
One cold and snowy weekend in New England, where everyone discovers their heating oil tank is empty, and the price of oil will climb through the roof again.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at November 13, 2018 04:08 PM (e7O7B)

315 Brown hasn't done shit for me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 04:02 PM

C'mon down!

Posted by: People's Democratic Republic of California at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (ctuyM)

316 Trumps tag line is what again? what? "You're what"?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (37IEG)

"Fake news?"

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (NFEMn)

317 Patience, commitment, and dilligence are needed to complete the BJ.

Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (W3lnd)

318 What's wrong with DeVos?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (Uiz/V)

319 Working at the White House for 2 years is pretty normal.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (J3Q5M)

320 Bring Hope Hicks back as Chief of Staff.

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (jLBUC)

321 In lighter news:
Entertainment - Esquire
'Game Of Thrones' George RR Martin Admits Feeling Pressure After Show's Success

I'd post that on the book thread, but I understand that to post something on the book thread one should really have a book to talk about.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (ykYG2)

322 Kirstjen Nielsen - No way anyone is that smoking hot - and performs a Cabinet-level job effectively.

After extensive googling, I would say pictures of her vary between hot and frightening so greatly that Seinfeld could've done an episode about it.

Posted by: wuf - bad lighting on the porch! at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (sZRzw)

323 Oh boy. Acting AG Whitaker is consulting with ethics officals inside the DOJ about recusal.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 13, 2018 03:52 PM (TAmPV)

He's dot i's and crossing t's. Smart move with Donks in the House and Senate gunning for him.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (CH+GM)

324 316
Trumps tag line is what again? what? "You're what"?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (37IEG)

"Fake news?"

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (NFEMn)
the OTHER tag line - dammit!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (37IEG)

325 306 Machiavelli v. Sun-Tzu cage match.
Posted by: klaftern at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (RuIsu)

They would spend the whole time circling each other looking for strategic advantage.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (RD7QR)

326 "demonstrating that straight men can make themselves less transphobic by sticking dildos in their asses."
Come for the smart military talk, and stay for the poetry.

Posted by: Super-elite Deplorable Ian Galt, now with sparks of divinity at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (8iiMU)

327 How serious are you about homeland security when you make old ladies take off their shoes at the airport while thousands walk across your southern border loaded with drugs, weapons and disease?
---------------------------
Wow. Yes. I was hoping the TSA would be gone by now.

At the same time, the border thing. It seems to me any DHS is in a straitjacket with our laws. Imagine, an immigration system where the very WORST she can do to a gang-banger screaming "Asylum hearing!" as he wades across the Rio Grande is...to grant him one.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (13CQC)

328 yeah, Nielson seemed to be open border before, and also kinda "NeverTrump" ... or leaned that way. I have no idea about Kelly ... except that he liked Nielson.

I've always liked Bolton's clarity ... he says he is NOT a neo-con. Seems like a realist to me, that believes in a strong defense, knows how the game (UN and other) is played.

Just the fact that The Comey/Mueller Coup is still ongoing indicates compromises have been made. The election cheats are still on their throwns as well ... and we still wait (#2weeks, #HuberWillCum) ... for all those arrests to happen. Whitaker offers some hope ... purging the GOPe and DeepStaters is essential ... probably has to be done piecemeal.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (Cus5s)

329 What's wrong with DeVos?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (Uiz/V)

They were a one hit wonder who wore flower pots for hats.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (NFEMn)

330 Get Milo.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (J3Q5M)

331 If you're going to jump into idiotic phrases and unwarranted, childish conclusions, nobody here is going to take you seriously.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Seriously, is this an official change in policy?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

_______________

I guess we're not allowed to comment on Trump's drama...on an article that's saying Melania is feuding with his chief of staff and having him fired.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (UfkIY)

332 296 Kirstjen Nielsen - No way anyone is that smoking hot - and performs a Cabinet-level job effectively.

No way.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:05 PM (LL1Be)
297 Imagine th

Is she smoking hot?

Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (W3lnd)

333 I'm mostly an index investor, I just dabbled a little when things looked really cheap. Made some money on the ones I sold like Shell, Chevron, BP, Exxon but just never really want to invest in energy anymore.
Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (UfkIY)

Buy gold!

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at November 13, 2018 04:11 PM (P4Pk9)

334

Kelly has also sparred with the East Wing over travel arrangements for
the first lady's staff, people familiar with the issue said. He often
wouldn't reserve space for Melania Trump's two aides on Air Force One or
on helicopters. They would find themselves without hotel rooms and not
listed for motorcade movements. The omissions have caused last-minute
logistical issues that the first lady viewed as a slight, these people
said.

I'm surprise he wasn't gone after the second time that happened.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 13, 2018 04:11 PM (HaL55)

335 I'm mostly an index investor, I just dabbled a little when things looked really cheap. Made some money on the ones I sold like Shell, Chevron, BP, Exxon but just never really want to invest in energy anymore.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (UfkIY)

---

The trick with energy is to find out what Congressmen are inside-trading on with their new "oil baron" clean energy bullsh*t plans and subsidies. THAT'S where the money is.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 13, 2018 04:11 PM (LX21o)

336 What's wrong with DeVos?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (Uiz/V)

They were a one hit wonder who wore flower pots for hats.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (NFEMn)

Wow. Good one.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at November 13, 2018 04:11 PM (T71PA)

337 314
One cold and snowy weekend in New England, where everyone discovers their heating oil tank is empty, and the price of oil will climb through the roof again.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at November 13, 2018 04:08 PM (e7O7B)

Bastardi says cold and snowy this winter. (He's been wrong but he's right more often.) And that means price goes up.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (RD7QR)

338 I guess we're not allowed to comment on Trump's drama...on an article that's saying Melania is feuding with his chief of staff and having him fired.

You can say whatever you want but when you start accusing people of conspiracy theories for stating the obvious, that's where you veer off into fool territory.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (39g3+)

339 Only since it was so willowed no one will ever see it.
Legal Insurrection article has Abrams still looking for missing votes ( she needs 20,000). But has Broward county reached 101% voting rate yet?

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (T4oHT)

340 296
Kirstjen Nielsen - No way anyone is that smoking hot - and performs a Cabinet-level job effectively.

No way.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:05 PM (LL1Be)

"Cabinet-level job"

Is that code for anything?

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (8iiMU)

341 One factor affecting oil prices could be the forecast for a severe winter -- less driving, less economic activity.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (hqZPQ)

342 If you yourself hire these people and then a short time later are having to fire them, I tend to think you're the problem and it's not some giant conspiracy.

If you're going to jump into idiotic phrases and unwarranted, childish conclusions, nobody here is going to take you seriously.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

.................

Hey Ace,
Have you laid down some new law that says anyone who even slightly criticizes Trump becomes an instant outcast and open for abuse?

This shit is getting old real quick.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (so+oy)

343 Buy gold!
Posted by: MAC SOG

_____________

Energy investors are starting to look like gold bugs.

I agree with most of what I hear from both camps but it just never seems to materialize.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (UfkIY)

344 Blago had the worst rug on his head, he got out of jail right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (bQtop)

345 Machiavelli v. Sun-Tzu cage match.
Posted by: klaftern at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM (RuIsu)

They would spend the whole time circling each other looking for strategic advantage.

Then it's Rule 1. Cardio.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (fuK7c)

346 Awesome, Allahpundit gets to run yet another John Kelly is out story.. been at least 3 days since the last one.

Posted by: Inogame at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (ySZHT)

347 Is that that Steve Schmidt asshole? Please, God, let this happen.
----------------------
Every lefty celeb and CEO in the land thinks they can do this since Trump. I keep wanting to tell them, "Do not try this at home."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (13CQC)

348 "Coffee Party

Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz is assembling a crack PR-team, including the campaign manager for John McCain's 2008 presidential run, as he considers challenging Donald Trump in the 2020 election.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2018 03:59 PM (aKsyK)"

-------------

Those winners Steve Schmidt and Nichole Wallace?

All I can say is a fool and his money ...

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (jLBUC)

349
Is she smoking hot?

Only for politics.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (oVJmc)

350 No way.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:05 PM (LL1Be)
297 Imagine th

Is she smoking hot?
Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (W3lnd)

If you like pale blondes, she's okay.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (NFEMn)

351 >>Kirstjen Nielsen - No way anyone is that smoking hot - and performs a Cabinet-level job effectively.

Kirstjen Nielsen is a One.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion NPC at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (8iiMU)

352 Is she smoking hot?

Posted by: literally serious

By Washington Standards?

A goddess.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (LL1Be)

353 >>No idea, but the "smart money" seems to just no longer want anything to do with energy stocks anymore.

Trump has been whacking countries right and left with sanctions, most notably China with the 2nd biggest economy in the world. And China's economy is slowing bigly with even slower growth predicted for next year.

Energy stocks are one of the first to show the effects of a slowing world economy. They are also one of the first to rebound.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (/tuJf)

354 I preferred to work under the table.

Posted by: Monica at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (ykYG2)

355 339
Only since it was so willowed no one will ever see it.

Legal Insurrection article has Abrams still looking for missing
votes ( she needs 20,000). But has Broward county reached 101% voting
rate yet?

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (T4oHT)
Who can tell with the bitch withholding the "public" voting log records.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (37IEG)

356 Mira has been alienating everyone her whole career. Should not be a surprise.

Posted by: Jean at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (+exTc)

357 Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:10 PM (UfkIY)

You're allowed to comment on whatever you like

Thanks goodness all articles must be taken at face value and having the ring of total truth.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (AllCR)

358 I just boofed into my capacious skirt.

Don't stand too close.

I'm going to go cropdust George Bush.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (9qZ3S)

359 318 What's wrong with DeVos?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 13, 2018 04:09 PM (Uiz/V

She's changed nothing. Public Indoctrination Institutions are still cranking out little marxists at an ever-increasing rate.

Posted by: Sooner at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (Fs5vw)

360 Breaking: Leon County (FL) judge has ruled Palm Beach county can have a five day extension counting votes.

Broward County claims they've finished vote counting.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (ptqGC)

361 I like what I've seen from DeVos, whats the complaint about her, now?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)

362 One factor affecting oil prices could be the forecast for a severe winter -- less driving, less economic activity.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 04:12 PM (hqZPQ)
More home heating oil?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (NFEMn)

363 >>>"What if you're a proctologist?"

you get a boat and vanity plates

Posted by: concrete girl at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (9ORmh)

364 Ted Nugent for press secretary
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 13, 2018 04:06 PM

I think I could go for him also

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (T4oHT)

365 You know what I want reporting on? The warring camps in the Dem House. Does anyone think Nanzi can pull off another Speakership? Can she force this crowd of Dems to focus and unite are will it be Love Hate Trump? Really. Can Nanzi keep the fringes on the plantation?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (2LelM)

366 "Cabinet-level job"

Is that code for anything?

" c'mon honey, it's my birthday. I want a CABINET- level-job!"

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (LL1Be)

367 So did people in New England already forget the 70's oil crisis?
Wood stoves gone back out of fashion have they?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (37IEG)

368 >>I cannot imagine even if true, screwing stormy could be considered an affair.
I screwed her and it was a fare. Burnt like hell until I gots some penicillin.

Posted by: Some dude down South at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (2cuLk)

369 "I don't need this shit," Trump told Kelly, according to one person familiar with the conversation.

---

One and only WH staffer was told this exact version of the story. He is now unemployed.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (rGIJb)

370 Hi Fenelon

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (bQtop)

371

Link for Sarah Saunders Bad Lip Reading video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EsUNOIYyKg

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (e7O7B)

372 They need to shut up and make sammiches for the man of the house.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:50 PM (39g3+)

Heh
the latest Supernatural ep had Dean, in an attempt to get a bystander out of the way of imoending mayhem, ask her to go to the kitchen and make him a sandwich.
I LOLed

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (XZ3Gp)

373
I like what I've seen from DeVos, whats the complaint about her, now?

Her throne of skulls is at least one year behind schedule.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (oVJmc)

374 I think President Trump should go with this look rather than the combover:

http://tinyurl.com/yclsbsda

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (39g3+)

375 @362 ... could be that too.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM (hqZPQ)

376 Oh, so has Palm Beach reached 101% voting rate yet or are they still voting?

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 04:16 PM (T4oHT)

377 "What could they be arguing about with Melanie Trump? Fashion choices?
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Boofing Chapter at November 13, 2018 04:03 PM (hSQF+)

Promotions for her staff, not arranging travel and accommodations for aides when she travels, etc.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 13, 2018 04:05 PM (wCmLp)"

-----------

It's almost as if they were taking advice from Moochelle and the staff at Vogue.

Posted by: Decaf at November 13, 2018 04:16 PM (jLBUC)

378 you get a boat and vanity plates

The USS Bumfinger

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:16 PM (39g3+)

379
Bastardi says cold and snowy this winter. (He's been wrong but he's right more often.) And that means price goes up.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses

Democratic Congresswoman-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York joined a large protest on Tuesday at the office of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi.

Ocasio-Cortez was among a group of about 200 environmental activists calling on Democratic leaders to put forward a "Green New Deal" that includes a swift transition to 100 percent renewable energy in line with findings of a recent report on climate change by United Nations.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2018 04:16 PM (aKsyK)

380 Meanwhile, Tank Abrams is convinced she's going to get her precious run off against Kemp. And she probably will.

I'm so damned angry.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (ptqGC)

381 Ooooh... I know!

Greg Gianforte for PressSec!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (AzW6q)

382 >>>"What if you're a proctologist?"

you get a boat and vanity plates

The most gauche boat names are the ones based on how the money for the boat came. I saw one named "Billable Hours".

If a proctologist names his boat after where the money came from I'm buying a personal sub and homemade torpedo.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (fuK7c)

383 351 >>Kirstjen Nielsen - No way anyone is that smoking hot - and performs a Cabinet-level job effectively.

Kirstjen Nielsen is a One.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion NPC at November 13, 2018 04:13 PM (8iiMU)

Agreed. No Emily Ratajkowski but she meets the minimum bar for bumping uglies.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (bcbK8)

384 Ocasio-Cortez was among a group of about 200
environmental activists calling on Democratic leaders to put forward a
"Green New Deal" that includes a swift transition to 100 percent
renewable energy in line with findings of a recent report on climate
change by United Nations.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2018 04:16 PM (aKsyK)
Firewood is renewable.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (37IEG)

385 63 I think just the opposite... I think Trump veers more Right.

I'd love to be wrong. Yet I've been expecting it every month now. Perhaps because of a lifetime of repeated, constant betrayal by the people who talk a good talk, I dunno. I've never trusted President Trump as a real conservative, but I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 03:28 PM (39g3+)
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He *isn't* a real conservative. He is, however, a businessman. A businessman knows that he gives the people what they want, or he goes out of business.
The Right is an under-served market. Literally NO ONE ELSE is serving them the way they want to be served. Anyone who *does* serve them what they want gets their undying loyalty...as long as he doesn't screw them over.

No way is Trump going to stab his under-served niche market in the back, especially knowing that there is nothing he can ever do to win the Left over.
They want him dead, and he knows it. He has no future except in sticking it to the Left, and winning.

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (adsVM)

386 Why speculate on something put out by NBC?

Chances are about 3 to 1 that it's all BS, and 20 to 1 that 90% of it is.

Actual events are worth comments.

Posted by: West at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (7Fa8Y)

387 I thought Blago's comment was reasonable enough. Not sure I agree (or even care enough to agree or disagree), but his general point - that if you endlessly find yourself in bad relationships, you are the common denominator - is reasonable. Maybe not applicable here for other reasons.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (X5jRy)

388 Still not over the date yet ( especially in Europe) but today is the anniversary of the night club massager in Paris.

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (T4oHT)

389 365 You know what I want reporting on? The warring camps in the Dem House. Does anyone think Nanzi can pull off another Speakership? Can she force this crowd of Dems to focus and unite are will it be Love Hate Trump? Really. Can Nanzi keep the fringes on the plantation?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (2LelM)

I control the money. The money...

(wheezing noises)

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (rGIJb)

390 Wood stoves gone back out of fashion have they?

I haven't kept up but I think they've been illegaled a lot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (fuK7c)

391 "Oh boy. Acting AG Whitaker is consulting with ethics officals inside the DOJ about recusal.Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

He's dot i's and crossing t's. Smart move with Donks in the House and Senate gunning for him Posted by: AZ Hi Desert

Yes smart move, BUT if they manage to get him out while completely compromised/conflicted Rosie and Mueller stay, we will know DeepState is running the show, and Trump will only be "allowed" fringe actions with DS approval.

Rosenstein has no crime for his special counsel thug, except the one the FBI/DNC fabricated, and they hid all that from the FISC (perhaps with a wink and nod from the FISC judges) ...

oh, and the crimes of Hillary in which the FBI is complicit ... It Is A Coup.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (Cus5s)

392 Meanwhile, Tank Abrams is convinced she's going to get her precious run off against Kemp. And she probably will.

I'm so damned angry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (ptqGC)

Not happening.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (NFEMn)

393 Business Insider says Ricardel has been "escorted from the White House." FLOTUS also reportedly issued a statement saying she has no problem with Kelly.

https://tinyurl.com/yaogucyu

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (hjaPQ)

394 You can say whatever you want but when you start accusing people of conspiracy theories for stating the obvious, that's where you veer off into fool territory.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

______________

What conspiracy theory am I spinning exactly?

This is an article about Melania possibly having Trump's chief of staff fired.

Are you mad at Ace or me for this "conspiracy theory"?

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (UfkIY)

395 You know what I want reporting on? The warring camps in the Dem House. Does anyone think Nanzi can pull off another Speakership? Can she force this crowd of Dems to focus and unite are will it be Love Hate Trump? Really. Can Nanzi keep the fringes on the plantation?
Posted by: Puddin Head

All things considered (ha-ha), you would think this would be a really interesting story, regarding all the arguing and backstabbing that is going to go on.

But our stalwart Media (Democrats with bylines) will report nary a word of the fun about to be had.

Fringes? Yeah, about 30-40% of the Democrat caucus is Hard Left. This is going to be a real shit show for the next two years.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at November 13, 2018 04:19 PM (vcOmj)

396 "Cabinet-level job"

Is that code for anything?

>>>>>>

Yikes! Only in Tampa!

Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 04:19 PM (W3lnd)

397 Nancy Pelosi is a female version of Montgomery Burns.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 13, 2018 04:19 PM (oVJmc)

398 386
Why speculate on something put out by NBC?

Chances are about 3 to 1 that it's all BS, and 20 to 1 that 90% of it is.

Actual events are worth comments.

Posted by: West at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (7Fa8Y)
It's put out to keep the libs happy as they wait for the 10 thousand impeachment hearings come 2019.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:19 PM (37IEG)

399
So did people in New England already forget the 70's oil crisis?
Wood stoves gone back out of fashion have they?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM

Technology marches on. I have a combo a/c heat pump that's pretty incredible for energy sipping that I recently installed.

But still, January and February will mean using heating oil like a summa bitch.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at November 13, 2018 04:19 PM (e7O7B)

400 "I don't need this shit," Trump told Kelly, according to one person familiar with the conversation.

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One and only WH staffer was told this exact version of the story. He is now unemployed.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 13, 2018 04:15 PM

I'm thinking that would be Kelly. But I'm also thinking Kelly would tell someone that story. And it's possible Kelly might have invented the story.

Posted by: Dis Lexic, Day Ragnar at November 13, 2018 04:19 PM (hrcfq)

401
384 Ocasio-Cortez was among a group of about 200
environmental activists calling on Democratic leaders to put forward a
"Green New Deal" that includes a swift transition to 100 percent
renewable energy in line with findings of a recent report on climate
change by United Nations.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 13, 2018 04:16 PM (aKsyK)
Firewood is renewable.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:17 PM (37IEG

So is whale oil. Whale ranches for the win.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (kkwkH)

402 Still not over the date yet ( especially in Europe) but today is the anniversary of the night club massager in Paris.

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (T4oHT)
Ay, there's the rub.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (oVJmc)

403 Everybody knows proctologist license plates are Assman

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (bQtop)

404 What conspiracy theory am I spinning exactly?

Unable to decide if you are simply that unable to read plain English or just insane....

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (39g3+)

405 BREAKING NEWS :

Donald Trump, Formerly On "The Apprentice" Where He Was Known For The Catch Phrase "You're Fired" , Will Be Making Personnel Changes!!!

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (LL1Be)

406 >>Business Insider says Ricardel has been "escorted from the White House." FLOTUS also reportedly issued a statement saying she has no problem with Kelly.

CNBC is saying the report is false and Ricardel is at her desk doing desk things. For now.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (/tuJf)

407 257 >>Sort of like that line if you meet one asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you're the asshole.

What if you're a proctologist?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 03:58 PM (/tuJf)

What if you're in Washington DC and dealing with politicians all day?

Posted by: buzzion at November 13, 2018 04:21 PM (WaxcS)

408 405 BREAKING NEWS :

Donald Trump, Formerly On "The Apprentice" Where He Was Known For The Catch Phrase "You're Fired" , Will Be Making Personnel Changes!!

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (LL1Be)

Exactly

I voted for him in no small measure because I hoped he WOULD fire people.

And because he wasn't Hillary.

Total bonus, the guy has been.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 04:21 PM (bcbK8)

409 Firewood is renewable.

Petroleum is renewable, its just a matter of what time scale we're talking about here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:21 PM (39g3+)

410 I question some this reporting...considering some of the sources (like - NBC).

However some of it is probably true.

1. Bolton and Kelly clearly did not see eye to eye as others have pointed out.

2. Melania Trump did make statements in several past interviews to the fact that some of the people in Trump's administration do not like Trump's populism and are in fact disloyal.

Remember Bolton and Kelly argued over border enforcement, if the military can be used to protect the American-Mexican border, etc. The pentagon has done some backstabbing, etc.

So we shall see who is on first, the Melania angle is just a sideshow in my opinion. I suspect this is more over border enforcement and foreign policy.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 13, 2018 04:21 PM (MuTTO)

411 390
Wood stoves gone back out of fashion have they?

I haven't kept up but I think they've been illegaled a lot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM (fuK7c)
that wouldn't surprise me at all - back when they were being installed everywhere "oil" was almos exhausted (Mad Max) and we were headed into another Ice Age.Now we know those wood stoves in Boston were causing wild fires in California! And that the people of the Indus civilizations 4000 years ago were forced by climate change from future SUVs to abandon their cities!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:21 PM (37IEG)

412 404 What conspiracy theory am I spinning exactly?

Unable to decide if you are simply that unable to read plain English or just insane....
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (39g3+)

My guess is he's just a troll.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 13, 2018 04:21 PM (bcbK8)

413 Maybe Kelly is boinking Kirstjen

NTTAWWT

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 13, 2018 04:22 PM (XZ3Gp)

414 Breaking: Leon County (FL) judge has ruled Palm Beach county can have a five day extension counting votes.

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That's the law now, then.

Election day + five days.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 13, 2018 04:22 PM (LX21o)

415 Happy wife, happy life.

If mama ain't happy, ain't no one happy.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 13, 2018 04:22 PM (PRK75)

416 CNBC is saying the report is false and Ricardel is at her desk doing desk things. For now.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (/tuJf)

"Desk things" as in "cleaning it out?"

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:22 PM (NFEMn)

417 CNBC is saying the report is false and Ricardel is at her desk doing desk things. For now.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 04:20 PM (/tuJf)

So watching porn and flicking her bean.....

Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 04:22 PM (W3lnd)

418 Wood stoves gone back out of fashion have they?

I haven't kept up but I think they've been illegaled a lot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM

New ones. If you have an existing one you're 'grandfathered in'. For now.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at November 13, 2018 04:22 PM (e7O7B)

419 409
Firewood is renewable.

Petroleum is renewable, its just a matter of what time scale we're talking about here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 13, 2018 04:21 PM (39g3+)
What about the polar bears! Are they renewable? (heh)

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:22 PM (37IEG)

420 Addendum:

Election day + twelve days, I suppose. Because I forgot that we've already been at this BS for a week.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 13, 2018 04:23 PM (LX21o)

421 Crazy Cortez is taking on Pelosi?? Lol..Pelosi will have her for breakfast and use her bones for toothpicks. *this should be fun*

Posted by: IC at November 13, 2018 04:23 PM (a0IVu)

422 Ocasio-Cortez was among a group of about 200 environmental activists calling on Democratic leaders to put forward a "Green New Deal" that includes a swift transition to 100 percent renewable energy in line with findings of a recent report on climate change by United Nations.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Nothing like doing something massively stupid like that to throw the economy into reverse.
I would almost dare them to do it, and see the reaction of the electorate to this nonsense.

2020 would be a Republican landslide.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at November 13, 2018 04:23 PM (vcOmj)

423 418
Wood stoves gone back out of fashion have they?

I haven't kept up but I think they've been illegaled a lot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 13, 2018 04:18 PM

New ones. If you have an existing one you're 'grandfathered in'. For now.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at November 13, 2018 04:22 PM (e7O7B)
Seriously....how absolutely fucking stupid.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:23 PM (37IEG)

424 Unable to decide if you are simply that unable to read plain English or just insane....
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

___________

How about you just tell me then?

I honestly want to know what got your feathers so ruffled?

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:23 PM (UfkIY)

425 Milo for press sec?

motherfuckinghamsterfucker, now that would be pay per view

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 13, 2018 04:23 PM (d7Ww2)

426 My guess is he's just a troll.

There's a Blago who's been a regular for a long time. If this is that guy, treat him as such. Engage.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 13, 2018 04:23 PM (fuK7c)

427
Breaking: Leon County (FL) judge has ruled Palm Beach county can have a five day extension counting votes.

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That's the law now, then.

Election day + five days.
In other words, keep counting votes until the election goes the Dems' way.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 13, 2018 04:23 PM (ptqGC)

428 Wood stoves gone back out of fashion have they?

I haven't kept up but I think they've been illegaled a lot.

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Yeah, Californians were worried about air quality from people burning wood.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

(gasp, wheeze, cough)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 13, 2018 04:24 PM (LX21o)

429 Every lefty celeb and CEO in the land thinks they can do this since Trump. I keep wanting to tell them, "Do not try this at home."

I've got zero problems with CEOs being POTUS. The ONLY skill politicians have is fundraising. Trump has demonstrated that being able to cut through bullshit and try things that go against "common knowledge" can have surprisingly good results. High end CEOs are great at management and consuming large amounts of data and synthesizing reasonable courses of action therefrom.

The Founding Fathers were enamored of the idea of the gentleman farmer turned occasional politician. I like that idea quite a bit more than the crop of professional politicians with an ancient JD.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 13, 2018 04:24 PM (9qZ3S)

430 Then wait for that certain sound WHINE WHINE SNIVEL SNIVEL WHINE

Posted by: Tamaa the Bird 1000 Voices at November 13, 2018 04:24 PM (wGqjj)

431 >>>Everybody knows proctologist license plates are Assman

unless they're accidentally given to kramer

Posted by: concrete girl at November 13, 2018 04:25 PM (9ORmh)

432 Wood stoves are still legal where you live?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 04:25 PM (bQtop)

433 If Trump stopped with all the silly drama and focused on what got him elected, he'd have a lot more success.

A Troll is Born.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:25 PM (LL1Be)

434 Australians are going to the Southern Hemisphere of Mars?

Posted by: klaftern at November 13, 2018 04:26 PM (RuIsu)

435 In other words, keep counting votes until the election goes the Dems' way.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 13, 2018 04:23 PM

Sen Ted Cruz was part of Bush's 2000 team that went to Florida. He was talking about it a couple days ago. Mentioned that every recount the (D)'s got closer and closer by some mysterious process. He's funny to listen to.

I like Ted.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at November 13, 2018 04:26 PM (e7O7B)

436 Is Bolton still there? Yes? Then who gives a fuck about anyone else?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:26 PM (f687A)

437 321 In lighter news:
Entertainment - Esquire
'Game Of Thrones' George RR Martin Admits Feeling Pressure After Show's Success

_____

The pressure is from his heart desperately trying to pump blood into his arteries, which must be nearly blocked with plaque. Have you seen that guy?!

Posted by: Jabroni at November 13, 2018 04:26 PM (TcM5G)

438 Firewood stoves if outlawed has to be some regional thing.I don't think it's a issue in the north east were their is plenty of wood and it's damn cold in winter.

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 04:26 PM (T4oHT)

439 >>>unless they're accidentally given to kramer

A million-to-one shot, Doc. A million-to-one!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:27 PM (f687A)

440 weren't Kelly and Bannon in a feud that got Bannon fired?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 13, 2018 04:27 PM (XZ3Gp)

441 Sen Ted Cruz was part of Bush's 2000 team that went to Florida. He was talking about it a couple days ago. Mentioned that every recount the (D)'s got closer and closer by some mysterious process. He's funny to listen to.

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Someone mentioned earlier that the (D)s have miraculously won every single "close" race that was contested.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 13, 2018 04:27 PM (LX21o)

442 428
Wood stoves gone back out of fashion have they?

I haven't kept up but I think they've been illegaled a lot.

---

Yeah, Californians were worried about air quality from people burning wood.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

(gasp, wheeze, cough)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by:Moron Robbie at November 13, 2018 04:24 PM (LX21o)
Yes, it's not their refusal to allow nature to do it's thing and let fire clear out the undergrowth once in a while, it's climate change deniers!I thought we learned that lesson in the National Forests back in the 70s too, but NOOOOOOOOO.Fucking idiots, stack kindling until it's 2 foot deep and then be surprised when a fire burns the whole place down - oh, and blame someone else when it does. MAGIC CLIMATE CHANGE!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:27 PM (37IEG)

443 Wood stoves are still legal where you live?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Texas. Yes. Tractor Supply sells them.
Vogelzang brand among others.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 13, 2018 04:28 PM (PRK75)

444 I have a propane heater in my outbuilding but haven't filled the tank in years. Should have put in a wood stove, I got wood to burn.

Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2018 04:28 PM (T4oHT)

445 Australians are going to the Southern Hemisphere of Mars?

Posted by: klaftern at November 13, 2018 04:26 PM (RuIsu)
............

Well, they wouldn't go to the Northern hemisphere, the water goes down the drain backward.

Posted by: wth at November 13, 2018 04:28 PM (HgMAr)

446 In other words, keep counting votes until the election goes the Dems' way.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

______________

I never really took it all that seriously the first time I heard it, but part of me does wonder if Democrats lost 2016 just because they didn't crank up their fraud machine to full capacity as a result of over confidence.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:28 PM (UfkIY)

447 Someone mentioned earlier that the (D)s have miraculously won every single "close" race that was contested.

Tucker had that stat last night.

Something like every close election since 2015 that has been legally challenged and /or recounted has gone to the Democrat.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:28 PM (LL1Be)

448 >>>Someone mentioned earlier that the (D)s have miraculously won every single "close" race that was contested.

Dennis Prager had a guy on yesterday who watches these things. Said there has never been recounts/found files which were in favor of a Republican. Not once.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:29 PM (f687A)

449 " She's changed nothing. Public Indoctrination Institutions are still cranking out little marxists at an ever-increasing rate.

Posted by: Sooner at November 13, 2018 04:14 PM (Fs5vw)"

Sec Ed has at least yanked the rug out from under a bunch of bunch of title IX gestapo offices. They're still trying, but they're losing a lot more often in court.
People need to understand and accept that universities are done; they're going to get replaced one way or another. Public education still has a lot of collapse left in it, though, and may not get fixed on this side of the great unpleasantness.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 13, 2018 04:29 PM (eAshZ)

450 432
Wood stoves are still legal where you live?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 04:25 PM (bQtop)
Who you askin? Texas? Yes. We do lots of illegal (in New York, California, Massachusetts, other shit hole states) stuff here.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 13, 2018 04:29 PM (37IEG)

451 George Papadopoulos is tweeting up a storm today claiming that Mifsud's lawyer says Mifsud wants to testify to the Senate.

It's a shame 99% of the media is ignoring the guy who the entire Cross Fire Hurricane case was built upon. You'd think that might make some interesting reporting.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 04:29 PM (/tuJf)

452 >>>Said there has never been recounts/found files which were in favor of a Republican.

Unless you count GWB, I guess.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:29 PM (f687A)

453 Something... is going on !

Posted by: runner at November 13, 2018 04:30 PM (bUjCl)

454 Sen Ted Cruz was part of Bush's 2000 team that went to Florida. He was talking about it a couple days ago. Mentioned that every recount the (D)'s got closer and closer by some mysterious process. He's funny to listen to.
____________

Had the SC not stepped in 2000, Gore would have eventually won as every recount they kept "finding" more votes.

If the SC doesn't step into Florida now, I think the same thing is going to happen.

Posted by: Blago at November 13, 2018 04:30 PM (UfkIY)

455 I thought Mifsud was dead?

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:30 PM (LL1Be)

456 Unless you count GWB, I guess.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:29 PM (f687A)

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No, we said (D)s.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 13, 2018 04:30 PM (LX21o)

457 As if protesting in Plosives office and making a bunch of demands wasn;t enough, now Occasional Crazy is making nose about Amazons move to NY. I don't even care about what deala they got, Amzon and NY deserve each other she is complaining about not enough Free Stuff for her district, or something something.
She isn't going to be the new Dem darling very long like this,.

Posted by: Ripley at November 13, 2018 04:30 PM (MxEKc)

458
George Papadopoulos @GeorgePapa19
21m
Replying to @JoshMeyerDC @simonamangiante
The Russia scam is over, Josh. Mifsud is about to tear it right open in front of the world to see when he testifies on Capitol Hill.

Posted by: MSM is the Deep States Mentally Ill Girlffriend at November 13, 2018 04:31 PM (+om3e)

459 >>I thought Mifsud was dead?

Ah, no. That little myth was dispelled weeks ago.

He's very much alive and curiously enough has never been a Russian spy.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2018 04:31 PM (/tuJf)

460
340 "Cabinet-level job"

Is that code for anything?

apprentice shelf-makers have to spend a few months making certain the cabinets are level before being trusted with dangerous items like screwdrivers.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 13, 2018 04:32 PM (xGZ+b)

461 >>I thought Mifsud was dead?

I didn't even know he was sick.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:32 PM (f687A)

462 Fuck these people sideways and twice on Sunday

PDT takes no salary
Melania has less staff than any other First Lady in memory
That bloodsucking leech Mooch had 35 people plus her fucking mother.
$105,000 a year for a fucking dog walker because the cocksuckers were too lazy to walk their photos ops.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 13, 2018 04:32 PM (igOuu)

463 Said there has never been recounts/found files which were in favor of a Republican.

Unless you count GWB, I guess.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:29 PM (f687A)

Once......and the Dems vowed to never let it happen again.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 13, 2018 04:32 PM (NFEMn)

464 Mifsud must recuse himself!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 13, 2018 04:33 PM (LX21o)

465 They should keep Nielsen. She's hot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:33 PM (f687A)

466 there are multiple levels:

floor-level
armchair-level
cabinet-level
bookshelf-level

All kinds...

Posted by: runner at November 13, 2018 04:33 PM (bUjCl)

467
Pellet stoves, in my humble opinion are cleaner and more btu producing then wood stoves. But if you have a supply of wood on your property you might not want to invest tens of thousands of dollars for equipment to 'pelletize' it.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at November 13, 2018 04:33 PM (e7O7B)

468 #393. Business Insider is a commie propaganda rag. It's as reliable as HuffPo

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 13, 2018 04:33 PM (OLCnA)

469 Breaking: Leon County (FL) judge has ruled Palm Beach county can have a five day extension counting votes.

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That's the law now, then.

Election day + five days.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB at November 13, 2018 04:22 PM (LX21o)
*********************

My head is going to explode.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 13, 2018 04:33 PM (hECVl)

470 I live on a wooded lot.
Trees die all the time and I chop them up and burn em.

Posted by: Roland THTG Kinetic Activist North Central Division at November 13, 2018 04:34 PM (88+cf)

471 I mean, just because Trump is *our* asshole doesn't mean he's not a bit of an asshole. He's clearly not the easiest guy to work with or for. Nor should he be - it's the White House, not Hank's Lube Stop.

Posted by: Who is broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter? at November 13, 2018 04:34 PM (oZ6kz)

472 floor-level
armchair-level
cabinet-level
bookshelf-level

Lemelisk-Bevel. (Star Wars pun.)

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:35 PM (f687A)

473 Nood gay hispanic dude hates women, works at Womens Rights center.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Thoughts and Prayers for RGB 🐘 at November 13, 2018 04:35 PM (LX21o)

474 Mifsud needs to stay out of parks.

Posted by: klaftern at November 13, 2018 04:35 PM (RuIsu)

475 >>>Nor should he be - it's the White House, not Hank's Lube Stop.

It's your one-stop shop for Vaseline.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:35 PM (f687A)

476 Just saw a Polish military salute to American veterans on FBN. Very nice. Poland seems to be one of the bastions of freedom in the world. Would almost consider moving there if things get really bad here.

Posted by: Sooner at November 13, 2018 04:35 PM (Fs5vw)

477 465 They should keep Nielsen. She's hot.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:33 PM (f687A)

We should just put the top 3000 hottest porn stars in office across the country. What could go wrong with electing and appointment based on looks?

Posted by: literally serious at November 13, 2018 04:36 PM (W3lnd)

478 Trump has the toughest job in the world. The least they can do is make sure that there is no BS for him to deal with. That said, I like Kelly. Hope he can adjust and go on with his duties knowing that it is Trump who has the weight of the world on his shoulders, not him, so some extra staff for the first lady or whatever it is, is small change given the scope things going on, and that need to be done.

Posted by: runner at November 13, 2018 04:36 PM (bUjCl)

479 Melania has a tiny staff compared to michelle.

ISWYDT

Posted by: The Previous Thread at November 13, 2018 04:36 PM (6bX0D)

480 >>>Poland seems to be one of the bastions of freedom in the world.

Next-door neighbors emigrated from there around WWII. Crazy nice and their 40-ish daughters are ridiculously hot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:37 PM (f687A)

481 Posted by: Ben Had at November 13, 2018 04:32 PM (igOuu)

Pure poetry in the afternoon is so refreshing!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at November 13, 2018 04:37 PM (n9EOP)

482 IIRC, thanks to TFG, new woodstoves have to have a catalytic converter like a car, and are less efficient.

Next time I buy one, I'll look for an old used one on Craigslist.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 04:37 PM (AzW6q)

483 >>>What could go wrong with electing and appointment based on looks?

Could they really be worse than Pelosi, Waters, etc?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:37 PM (f687A)

484

NOOD ABOVE

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:38 PM (f687A)

485 476 Just saw a Polish military salute to American veterans on FBN.

they started running that a few days before armistice day.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 13, 2018 04:39 PM (xGZ+b)

486 Wow! Exxon hasn't been this low since August.

Posted by: Cisco Kid at November 13, 2018 04:39 PM (6PlZp)

487 OVERNOOD

Posted by: mikeyG at November 13, 2018 04:40 PM (LL1Be)

488 483 >>>What could go wrong with electing and appointment based on looks?

Could they really be worse than Pelosi, Waters, etc?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 13, 2018 04:37 PM (f687A)

*thinking of a few hot girlfriends I've had*

Yes

Posted by: Sooner at November 13, 2018 04:40 PM (Fs5vw)

489 Mira Ricardel it appears is a "Russian Hawk". That is ok, but sometimes Russian hawks have a certain obsession with that country that clouds their judgement.

Just saying...

McCain was a Russian Hawk and he wanted to take us to the gates of Moscow just like old Napoleon.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 13, 2018 04:40 PM (MuTTO)

490

Something... is going on !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p98PjtSfNWo

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 13, 2018 04:43 PM (HaL55)

491 a swift transition to 100 percent renewable energy in line with findings of a recent report on climate change by United Nations.

Six months later, we're all freezing in the dark. I think that's the plan anyway.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 13, 2018 04:44 PM (p6e8W)

492 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2018 04:37 PM (AzW6q)
I think there's a third generation of wood stoves that don't have the catalytic converters, but if you find a used one without the converter go for it.
In the old hovel, I had a great classic wood stove w/o converter and it worked like a charm.
When I tried to buy one for the new hovel, only cat converter ones were available and is is a pain in the butt, inefficient and bad burn as well, but can't afford to upgrade!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at November 13, 2018 04:45 PM (n9EOP)

493 A return to the turmoil of the Reagan White House.

Which based on results, shows it matters not a damn.

Posted by: ChrisBalsz at November 13, 2018 04:48 PM (bJlQE)

494 Michelle Obama traveled with the f*ckin' Third Army, and no one in the media ever complained about that.

Posted by: OCBill at November 13, 2018 04:49 PM (df+Zi)

495 If Trump stopped with all the silly drama and focused on what got him elected, he'd have a lot more success.

He hasn't changed. His management approach since he announced his candidacy has always been "I'm fucking this monkey, YOU are just here to hold the camera."

Get on board with the boss' agenda or get lost.

Posted by: Hooray for Boobies at November 13, 2018 04:55 PM (SOgjZ)

496 432 Wood stoves are still legal where you live?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 13, 2018 04:25 PM (bQtop)

Yep, mine is cranking out the heat right now.

Posted by: clutch at November 13, 2018 05:09 PM (kiSdp)

497 >>>His management approach since he announced his candidacy has always been "I'm fucking this monkey, YOU are just here to hold the camera."
Get on board with the boss' agenda or get lost.

Trump's agenda is fucking monkeys? I thought it was buttfucking cats? Or is it now both?

Posted by: Heidi Ho at November 13, 2018 05:21 PM (pBhRm)

498 So, the people that put Rachel the Mad Cow on the air every night are giving us the inside story on what Trump is planning? Seriously?

Posted by: Just woke up in the sports book at the Flamingo at November 13, 2018 07:51 PM (9X60i)

499 Didn't Kelly get the memo?

"If Mama ain't happy, nobody's happy" is a very old memo. Keeping the boss' wife happy has been a no-brainer for millenia.

Posted by: RonF at November 13, 2018 10:56 PM (28zW2)

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