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Open Thread (Plus: The Press Has Always Been Rotten Cowards)

Here's a fun story about the bravery of the press.

Napoleon was exiled to Elba as a treaty provision after having lost the war to pretty much every other country in Europe.

A lot of French still revered him, but many were glad to see him go. He had, after all, declared himself Emperor, which was a complete repudiation of the ideas of the Revolution.

The Bourbon dynasty, which was installed to replace him, of course enforced the official state line that he was a monster.

So back to the press: Here are the Paris press' headlines, from the moment they hear that Napoleon has violated his treaty terms and escaped from Elba, to when he lands on French soil, to when he begins gathering his old loyalists (grognards), to when he is within a few days' march of Paris, to when he actually arrives.

Napoleon's march on Paris as reported via newspaper headlines (1831)

As published in The Museum of Foreign Literature, Science, and Art, Volume XVIII

The French newspapers which, in 1815, were subject to the censor, announced the departure of Bonaparte from Elba, his progress through France, and his entry into Paris in the following ingenious manner:

-- 9th March, the Anthropophagus [literally "Man-eater"] has quitted his den

-- 10th, the Corsican Ogre has landed at Cape Juan

-- 11th, the Tiger has arrived at Gap

-- 12th, the Monster slept at Grenoble

-- 13th, the Tyrant has passed through Lyons

-- 14th, the Usurper is directing his steps towards Dijon, but the brave and loyal Burgundians have risen en masse and surrounded him on all sides

-- 18th, Bonaparte is only sixty leagues from the capital; he has been fortunate enough to escape the hands of his pursuers

-- 19th, Bonaparte is advancing with rapid steps, but he will never enter Paris

-- 20th, Napoleon will, tomorrow, be under our ramparts

— 21st, the Emperor is at Fontainbleau

-- 22nd, His Imperial and Royal Majesty, yesterday evening, arrived at the Tuileries, amidst the joyful acclamations of his devoted and faithful subjects.

I don't know if this is the same thing, really, but here's some changing-of-a-tune from a CNN "analyst:"



On Special Report, liberal Mara Liason bemoaned claims by Republicans that the Arizona and Florida races were being stolen via fraud, claiming that such claims undermine public confidence in elections.

Mollie Hemingway rejoined with Ekdahl's point: "If only the media had been concerned about that for the past two years of blathering about Russian Conspiracies and undermining public confidence in the 2016 election."

Mara Liason had plainly never considered the breathtaking hypocrisy in her claim -- people who immunize themselves from outside questioning never bother to think too much about their own thinking -- and had to concede that this was a point.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:50 PM




Comments

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1 Uno, yes Numero Uno

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 07:49 PM (bUjCl)

2 Yo.. evening 'rons!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2018 07:52 PM (438dO)

3 Nood was called; I'm here; where is everyone else?

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 12, 2018 07:52 PM (bZ7mE)

4 CNN kept deep throating on Saddam's SCUD to keep access.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:52 PM (5d8+l)

5 Mara Liason had plainly never considered the breathtaking hypocrisy in her claim

Mara Liason had never considered that lead paint chips were a poor choice for a snack.

Posted by: physics geek at November 12, 2018 07:52 PM (huQJB)

6 I read the content, runner..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2018 07:52 PM (438dO)

7 Well, it's Napoleon Day at the HQ.

Are we going to do Napoleon III tomorrow?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)

8 Geez look at my hash, now what in D+D or Pathfinder requires five d8s?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (5d8+l)

9

Remember when creating a National ID was "exactly what Al Qaeda wants?"

Remember when creating Voter ID laws was "exactly what Al Qaeda wants?"

Remember when increasing border security was "exactly what Al Qaeda wants?"

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (Z9Slr)

10 top 10?

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (+BN1u)

11 Hey

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 12, 2018 07:54 PM (bg8BQ)

12 Willowed:

menthol cigarettes worse than regular ones? And no I'm not being snarky, I rally don't know.

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I've heard the flavoring agent turns into some kind of weird polymer like substance when it combusts, and that builds up in the lungs. Not good. But I will seriously miss my occasional pack of menthols if they do this. Bastards.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 07:54 PM (5aX2M)

13 And so did I , Chi-town - TWICE!

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 07:54 PM (bUjCl)

14 Okay, trool sighting.

Nuke from orbit.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:54 PM (5d8+l)

15
Those were the magic words -- "that's exactly what Al Qaeda wants us to do!" -- that would make all the Republicans, especially Bush, buckle at the knees.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 12, 2018 07:55 PM (Z9Slr)

16 Geez look at my hash, now what in D+D or Pathfinder requires five d8s?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (5d8+l)


Froghemoth!

Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 07:55 PM (t+qrx)

17 You could just smoke with a Sucrets lozenge in your mouth.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 07:55 PM (fuK7c)

18 And *poof* Trool b gone

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:55 PM (5d8+l)

19 Napoleon III is only a nephew, NOt as noteworthy as the Usurper, so I hope they don't dedicate any space to him

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 07:56 PM (bUjCl)

20 Yes, Yud. Dice, menthol smokes are supposed to be much worse than regular cigs.


FWIW. I've heard this for years.

Posted by: prescient11 at November 12, 2018 07:56 PM (q+HNC)

21 Me: We need to investigate voter fraud

Dem: But there is no proof of it

Me: Yeah because nobody every investigates it

Dem: Right, because there is nothing to investigate since it doesn't exist

I've had this discussion more times than I can remember

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 07:56 PM (wD9H7)

22 Napoleon III was the ottoman of the dynasty?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:57 PM (5d8+l)

23 What's with this Napoleon guy thinking he can just go where ever he pleases?

Posted by: dantesed at November 12, 2018 07:57 PM (88xKn)

24 Napoleon is much beloved in France. Still.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 07:57 PM (bUjCl)

25 5pm and pitch black outside. Can we get DST back please???

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 07:57 PM (wD9H7)

26 First!

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 07:58 PM (cfSRQ)

27 Joan Collins!

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 07:58 PM (cfSRQ)

28 Napoleon is much beloved in France. Still.
Posted by: runner

His brother Kip even more so. Reminds them of Jerry Lewis.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at November 12, 2018 07:59 PM (5RXy6)

29 The truly incredible part about Napoleon leaving Elba is that he stranded and left to die two French armies, one in Egypt and one in Russia. Yet he was still able the snooker folk into supporting him.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:59 PM (5d8+l)

30 Napoleon is in Parish, Florida?

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at November 12, 2018 07:59 PM (kkwkH)

31 I can't think of a group a sniveling narcissists more drunk on their own self regard than the press. The Democrats are mostly just lying jackwads after power, but many members of the press seems to genuinely believe that they are heroes, braving the onslaught of mean words and risking insult to save the country.

You'd think a group of people with their heads so far up their own asses would be well aware that their shit does indeed stink.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 12, 2018 07:59 PM (jp0Bv)

32


Mara Mara Mara

Posted by: Jan Brady at November 12, 2018 07:59 PM (aKsyK)

33 Are we going to do Napoleon III tomorrow?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)

---
Losing Alsace-Lorraine kind of wrecked his legacy.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:00 PM (cfSRQ)

34 The house is gone. The dems are stealing senate seats that 'republicans' won. There will be no republican senate majority. Why? Because there is only one party, the uniparty. There is no rule of law in America. Only one option left.

Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2018 08:00 PM (zLDYs)

35 I thought the chant was:

"Marat!" *stab* "Marat!" *stab* "Marat!" *stab*

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 08:01 PM (5d8+l)

36 This is why we have Fen's Law:

The Left doesn't really believe in the things they lecture the rest of us about

If you thought their position on Russian "collusion" had the silver lining that they had boxed themselves in re election fraud in general, you haven't been paying attention.

They aren't vulnerable to the Hypocrisy Card because they never believed election fraud was bad to begin with. Only when their enemies do it.

We have to stop assuming the Left operates under the same value system we do. We expect them to be in morally consistent and are continually shocked off balance when they are not.

We would be ashamed and embarrassed at such intellectual dishonesty. But for them it doesn't even register.

Stop expecting terrorists to abide by the laws of war.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at November 12, 2018 08:01 PM (lq2Yl)

37 They can do a Sun King day. Another grand homme.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:02 PM (bUjCl)

38
The United States needs to be more like Europe. Trump should raise up an army and declare himself Emperor.

Would solve a lot of problems like that bogus election debacle in Florida.

Posted by: Dis Lexic, Dark Walker at November 12, 2018 08:02 PM (hrcfq)

39 That Natgeo show "Mars" is on.. off to watch that.. the initial episode is about Elon Musk and SpaceX

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2018 08:02 PM (438dO)

40 31
I can't think of a group a sniveling narcissists more drunk on their own
self regard than the press. The Democrats are mostly just lying
jackwads after power, but many members of the press seems to genuinely
believe that they are heroes, braving the onslaught of mean words and
risking insult to save the country.



You'd think a group of people with their heads so far up their own asses would be well aware that their shit does indeed stink.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 12, 2018 07:59 PM (jp0Bv)

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Ask yourself: Are reporters hired for their intellect? Are they hired for their wisdom?

Or are they hired to read convincingly whatever bullshit is placed in front of them?

Oh, and the male of the species is either completely neutered or an apex-level sexual predator with remote door locks in their offices.

There's a reason why for most of history reporters were regarded as lowlife scum. For a brief moment in the 1970s they got a bit of credibility, but those days are long since past.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:02 PM (cfSRQ)

41 Kilroy hic erat

Posted by: Gaius Kilroynius at November 12, 2018 08:02 PM (DMUuz)

42 Count every vote!!

Again, and again, and again.....

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:02 PM (wD9H7)

43 I can't think of a group a sniveling narcissists more drunk on their own self regard than the press.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls

We are so grossly underpaid and overworked! We sacrifice so much for the good of society and get NO recognition! And we never complain because we DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!

Posted by: union teachers at November 12, 2018 08:02 PM (5RXy6)

44 Well, I am going to shamelessly recycle this from this morning's Napoleon thread:


Napoleon, technically Corsican
Unseated, got back on his horse again
After all Waterloo
And two exiles, too
Can he come back, well of course he can

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:03 PM (fuK7c)

45 Remember when creating a National ID was "exactly what Al Qaeda wants?"

Remember when creating Voter ID laws was "exactly what Al Qaeda wants?"

Remember when increasing border security was "exactly what Al Qaeda wants?"
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo


In other words, it looks like the terrorist have already won.

Run down the flag and fold it up, and let us welcome our new overlords!!

Wait, wut?

They're ...........Democrats?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at November 12, 2018 08:03 PM (S6Pax)

46 12 If menthol were banned, Halls cough drops would have to go, and so would IcyHot ointment.
More likely, they will ban menthol from smokes only, and smokers will compensate by sucking a Halls while smoking.

Posted by: jdgalt at November 12, 2018 08:03 PM (3SFo/)

47

Who wants to feel old?

The Brady Kids Reunited in front of the actual house used in the exterior shots on the TV show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WhNfAsSirQ

Spoiler: the Brady kids look old

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 12, 2018 08:04 PM (Z9Slr)

48 That's pretty good, Bandersnatch ! AND historically sound.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:04 PM (bUjCl)

49 There are no journalists anymore. They're SJWs with a big microphone.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:04 PM (wD9H7)

50 Speaking of Corsicans, I heard a great Corsican proverb, recently:

"The pubic hair of a woman mounting is stronger than two pair of oxen descending."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:05 PM (bvAwo)

51 Mara Liarson, from NPR? Ok.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:05 PM (UdKB7)

52 34
The house is gone. The dems are stealing senate seats that 'republicans'
won. There will be no republican senate majority. Why? Because there is
only one party, the uniparty. There is no rule of law in America. Only
one option left.


Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2018 08:00 PM (zLDYs)

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The House is not gone. Pelosi has the smallest majority since 1945. She is utterly dependent on a handful of swing seats to hold onto power.

If she goes all-in psycho, those seats will flip. There was no "blue wave," just the typical headwind incumbent presidents face during midterms. Trump actually outperformed Reagan by taking Senate seats and barely losing the House.

People need to get a grip.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:05 PM (cfSRQ)

53

Napoleon marching on Bedlam.

https://youtu.be/1C63HnJT620

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2018 08:05 PM (aKsyK)

54 Well if "la revolución" is gonna eat its own, I hope it starts with the MSM.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 12, 2018 08:05 PM (OUwAp)

55 The house is gone. The dems are stealing senate seats that 'republicans' won. There will be no republican senate majority. Why? Because there is only one party, the uniparty. There is no rule of law in America. Only one option left.
Posted by: Eromero


DRINK MORE OVALTINE!

Wait, that won't work....

Okay, just get drunk and stay drunk. We've got so much Russian interference, we might as well start drinking like Russians.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at November 12, 2018 08:05 PM (S6Pax)

56 Geez look at my hash, now what in D+D or Pathfinder requires five d8s?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM


Getting Lilo Inez as an NPC on your quest.

Posted by: J. Random Dungeon Mistress at November 12, 2018 08:06 PM (DMUuz)

57 Are you kidding?? That code pink commie freak stole the Senate seat in AZ?!

Posted by: Jmel at November 12, 2018 08:06 PM (OeWgo)

58 Spoiler: the Brady kids look old

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 12, 2018 08:04 PM (Z9Slr)

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I grew up watching it in reruns, so it doesn't bother me. They look worse than I do, so I'm counting that as a win.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:06 PM (cfSRQ)

59 Vote for Pedro.

Posted by: Napoleon at November 12, 2018 08:07 PM (bg8BQ)

60 At Waterloo Napoleon did surrender
And I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
The history book on the shelf
Is always repeating itself

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:07 PM (dMvl+)

61 More likely, they will ban menthol from smokes only, and smokers will compensate by sucking a Halls while smoking.
Posted by: jdgalt at November 12, 2018 08:03 PM (3SFo/)


Cough drops will move behind the counters and pharmacists will have to see picture ID and note the buyer in the logbook before they can sell them.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 08:07 PM (t+qrx)

62 My favorite NPR reporterette was Anita Bug.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:08 PM (UdKB7)

63 12th, the Orange Man is spearheading an offensive to occupy our dacha.

Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2018 08:08 PM (Z9C5C)

64 We are so grossly underpaid and overworked! We sacrifice so much for the good of society and get NO recognition! And we never complain because we DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!
Posted by: union teachers at November 12, 2018 08:02 PM (5RXy6)


Which is why they strike at the drop of a hat for higher pay. Bugger the children - there's money involved here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 08:08 PM (YqDXo)

65 Late great comedian Greg Giraldo at a Comedy Central Roast targeting Marcia Brady about her later years:

Who knew I could fulfill a teenage fantasy with an 8 ball of coke and a bus stop bathroom

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (5fPg1)

66 Napoleon last seen picking up a tour guide re: Iceland.

Posted by: klaftern at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (RuIsu)

67 As any historian will tell you, the only reason they hated (((Napoleon))) was because of his principled opposition to Russia.

What an eerie, scary echo of today!

Posted by: Julia Ioffe at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (DuAZ5)

68 Something became clear to me the other day that is a prime obstacle in fighting back the Left:

-The Left's definition of itself (good, virtuous, holy, loving) is the premise we are given to begin with, and--

-The Left's definition of Us (haters, bigots, greedy, Hitler) is the starting line are given to begin with.

We start in a hole. Our arguments are dispensed with (since we are monsters), and rejection of the Left is itself rejected (since they are such bright angels).

This premise originates in simple-minded emotionalism and the rationales provided by Academia, but the enforcer of that dogma is the media.

Every small victory we have will be driven from memory and the starting point will again be pushed back to the original baseline by a media that renews the Narrative perpetually.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (oVJmc)

69 Bugger the children - there's money involved here.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

We can do both.

Posted by: union teachers at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (5RXy6)

70 McSally concedes the AZ senate election to Senator-Elect MethLabOfDemocracy

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (IbD2v)

71 Which is why the [union teachers] strike at the drop of a hat for higher pay. Bugger the children -

They do a lot of that too.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (ykYG2)

72 I rather enjoyed having Napoleon work for me.

Posted by: Illya Kuryakin at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (DMUuz)

73 She would sign off with something like "

From Washington, I'm Anita Bug".

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (UdKB7)

74 Dems/Media then -- Jeff Sessions isn't fit to run the Justice Dept, he must resign.

Dems/Media now -- Bad Orange Man getting rid of Sessions is the worst Constitutional crisis evah!!!
Dems/Media then -- Kavanaugh has been credibly accused of sexual assault and he's not fit for office.

Dems/Media now -- Those allegations by underage sex workers (backed up by the SCOAMF Justice Dept) shouldn't prohibit Bob Menendez from being Senator!!!
Dems/Media then -- Russian interference in our elections is the worst crime ever because it helped elect Bad Orange Man.

Dems/Media now -- Criminal interference in the FL and AZ elections is no big deal as long as the Dems win.


Three times is enemy action.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (/SIwB)

75 he house is gone. The dems are stealing senate seats that 'republicans'

won. There will be no republican senate majority. Why? Because there is

only one party, the uniparty. There is no rule of law in America. Only

one option left.




Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2018 08:00 PM (zLDYs)

Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (F/KeJ)

76 The House is not gone. Pelosi has the smallest majority since 1945.

____

Why do people keep saying this?

As of now it's at least 227 seats for the Dems, with 10 more still not official. And since we know virtually all "too close to call" races for to Dems, it's safe to say at least 7 of those will be Dem, meaning 235ish. By comparison, Rs won 234 seats in 2012.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:10 PM (wD9H7)

77 menthol cigarettes worse than regular ones? And no I'm not being snarky, I rally don't know.

-----

I've heard the flavoring agent turns into some kind of weird polymer like substance when it combusts, and that builds up in the lungs. Not good. But I will seriously miss my occasional pack of menthols if they do this. Bastards.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 07:54 PM (5aX2M)

Apparently, menthol cigarettes are weapons of genocide directed at black people, unlike Planned Barrenhood's abortion tools, which are like totally OK.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2018 08:10 PM (fDU8w)

78 54 Well if "la revolucion" is gonna eat its own, I hope it starts with the MSM.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 12, 2018 08:05 PM (OUwAp)


They can't use the guillotine, because if you cut off most reporters' heads they wouldn't be any dumber.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 08:10 PM (YqDXo)

79 The difference? The left NEVER deviates from their plan, and the conservatives don't even have a plan.

Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2018 08:10 PM (zLDYs)

80 Waterloo!
I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo!
promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo!
couldn't escape if I wanted to
Waterloo
knowing my fate is to be with you
woh woh woh

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:11 PM (dMvl+)

81 will menthol smokers switch to vaping to get the flavor?

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2018 08:11 PM (Jcrm4)

82 Good one votermom - free verse ?

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:11 PM (bUjCl)

83 8 Geez look at my hash, now what in D+D or Pathfinder requires five d8s?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (5d8+l)

Paladin's Divine Smite, er, um I have no idea what you nerds are talking about!

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 12, 2018 08:11 PM (jp0Bv)

84 One lesson from AZ is voters don't care about "gaffes". At least not Dem voters. Sinema said AZ is a shithole multiple times and nobody seems to have cared.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:12 PM (wD9H7)

85 82 Good one votermom - free verse ?
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:11 PM (bUjCl)

*beady eye*
where is grammie?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:12 PM (dMvl+)

86 I don't know. The last time I saw him, Josephine was blowing his Bonaparte.

Posted by: Napoleon at November 12, 2018 08:12 PM (bg8BQ)

87 Why do people keep saying this?



As of now it's at least 227 seats for the Dems, with 10 more still
not official. And since we know virtually all "too close to call" races
for to Dems, it's safe to say at least 7 of those will be Dem, meaning
235ish. By comparison, Rs won 234 seats in 2012.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:10 PM (wD9H7)

---
All of those seats are winnable. The Dems know this. If they go full retard, they can flip back.

Plus, remember that a bunch of Dems won governorships (like Michigan) and we know get two full years for Dems to poison their party reputation.

Game ain't over, keep motivated and keep some perspective.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:13 PM (cfSRQ)

88 Are you kidding?? That code pink commie freak stole the Senate seat in AZ?!
---
The available evidence suggests that a lot of people voted for the freak.

This! is Democracy. We vote for whom we want.

Posted by: Dis Lexic, Dark Walker at November 12, 2018 08:13 PM (hrcfq)

89 79. No plan, but plenty of principals, with added circular firing squad benefit.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2018 08:13 PM (Jcrm4)

90 The left NEVER deviates from their plan
Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2018 08:10 PM


Particularly when it comes to movement.

Posted by: Admiral Painter at November 12, 2018 08:13 PM (DMUuz)

91 Dems also won 233 in 2006. Which is right where they will end up in 218.

So enough of this "Nancy has the teeniest tiniest majority post WW2 and won't pass anything". She passed plenty in 2007 with a similar sized majority.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:13 PM (wD9H7)

92 *beady eye*

where is grammie?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:12 PM (dMvl+)

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I got the reference.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:14 PM (cfSRQ)

93 I've been searching for an answer to this question for 2 days now...

was there ever a ballot total submitted prior to any recount starting? if not, it doesn't f****** matter because without a reference point for the recount to be compared to they could lie as much as they want. Also when the hell do they count the 30,000 plus military ballots coming in? I'm so f****** livid about this

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 12, 2018 08:14 PM (aR6C/)

94 So Nappy ultimately was a big failure but a bunch of frogs still loved him. That about right?

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:14 PM (UdKB7)

95 One lesson from AZ is voters don't care about "gaffes". At least not Dem voters. Sinema said AZ is a shithole multiple times and nobody seems to have cared.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:12 PM (wD9H7)

---------------

The state is at least 1/3 transplant residents from high tax states by now. I'm sure Sinema saying that does not bother most of them at all.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:14 PM (I16G8)

96 I am going to two counties in northern FL tomorrow for recounts. Any horde advice?

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2018 08:14 PM (fYi9j)

97 Good one votermom - free verse ?

Posted by: runner




aaaaaaaand now we know that runner is a millennial.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (fuK7c)

98 All of those seats are winnable. The Dems know this. If they go full retard, they can flip back.

Plus, remember that a bunch of Dems won governorships (like Michigan) and we know get two full years for Dems to poison their party reputation.

Game ain't over, keep motivated and keep some perspective.
Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:13 PM (cfSRQ)

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Many of those may well flip back in 2020. But you know every well incumbency has a lot of power.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (wD9H7)

99 McSally concedes the AZ senate election to Senator-Elect MethLabOfDemocracy



So 54 not 55. then -3 wobbly, still 51 and 52 with Pence.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (bUjCl)

100 Apparently, menthol cigarettes are weapons of genocide directed at black people, unlike Planned Barrenhood's abortion tools, which are like totally OK.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2018 08:10 PM (fDU8w)

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I'm making pretty good headway convincing a couple of black friends to leave through the door marked "Blexit."

One point that struck home for the female (who was already hostile to abortion) was that PP started as a way to kill blacks. After I proved this to her, she was pretty upset, and then I told her to pay attention to where they concentrate their offices in our city - a few locations in the burbs, and then a ton in the hood. It's pretty obvious when you know the facts, what's actually happening.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (5aX2M)

101 solid 51

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (bUjCl)

102 96 I am going to two counties in northern FL tomorrow for recounts. Any horde advice?
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2018 08:14 PM (fYi9j)

Just that of Gen. Mattis.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (NWiLs)

103 I can't speak for Mara Liasson or Napoleon Bonaparte, but I can say that nothing undermines my confidence in democratic institutions like their total bastardization and prostitution by Communist earwigs like the old Bitch of Broward.

Posted by: JBSPRY at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (gTTPg)

104 99 McSally concedes the AZ senate election to Senator-Elect MethLabOfDemocracy



So 54 not 55. then -3 wobbly, still 51 and 52 with Pence.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (bUjCl)

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53 (assuming Scott hangs on)
54 was with McSally

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (wD9H7)

105 Top 100?

Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (dczB+)

106 aaaaaaaand now we know that runner is a millennial.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (fuK7c)


um, because of #60 ?

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (bUjCl)

107 Okay, Top 110.

Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (dczB+)

108

The available evidence suggests that a lot of people voted for the freak.



This! is Democracy. We vote for whom we want.


No, we get to vote for whichever cretin the Giant Progressive Vote Machine decides we get to vote for. PDT is virtually the lone exception. And if he was a typical Pubbie, he'd never have gotten as far as he did.

He had FU money already.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (HaL55)

109 meth head sinema may be cray, cray, but she's right. arizona is a shithole.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (KP5rU)

110 76. Minimum gop gets in the house is 201, per nytimes. Means 234 for piglosi. Gop only needs 17 seats to flip in 2020. That is narrow, but a moot point. Like gop winning house in 2010, means squat without senate and white house

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (l5hQl)

111 24 Napoleon is much beloved in France. Still.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 07:57 PM (bUjCl)


He was a dictator who plunged Europe into bloody wars for the better part of a generation.

But France was never more powerful, so there's that.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:17 PM (sdi6R)

112 Free verse! Free verse!

*waves lighter*

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

113 I am going to two counties in northern FL tomorrow for recounts. Any horde advice?
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2018 08:14 PM (fYi9j)


Go with God, amigo.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at November 12, 2018 08:17 PM (T71PA)

114 There's a reason why for most of history reporters were regarded as lowlife scum.

*fist bump*

They are the world's gossips, pick up and retail the camp scandal.... They are also tempted to prophesy events and state facts which, to an enemy, reveal a purpose in time to guard against it. Moreover, they are always bound to see facts colored by the partisan or political character of their own patrons, and thus bring army officers into the political controversies of the day, which are always mischievous and wrong.

Posted by: Zombie William Tecumseh Sherman at November 12, 2018 08:17 PM (786Ro)

115 Phoenix and tucson are now dumps

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:17 PM (l5hQl)

116 Geez look at my hash, now what in D+D or Pathfinder requires five d8s?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (5d8+l)

4th level Ranger.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2018 08:17 PM (1g7ch)

117 DEMS currently at 227 in the HOR. Leading in the following...

CA-10 +1.8%
NJ-3 +1.1%
NY-22 +0.6%
UT-4 +2.4%

Safe to say they almost certainly keep all of those. Meanwhile the GOP is leading in the following...

GA-7 +0.4% (about 900-votes)
TX-23 +0.5%
ME-2 +0.7%
CA-45 +1%
NY-27 +1.1%
CA-39 +1.4%

They probably hold all of these except, maybe, GA-7

The next HOR will therefore likely be 231D - 204R

Posted by: DocJ at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (IbD2v)

118 McSally concedes the AZ senate election to Senator-Elect MethLabOfDemocracy

So 54 not 55. then -3 wobbly, still 51 and 52 with Pence.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (bUjCl)

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Upside, we lost Flake, McStain and Corker. Downside is we got Romney.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (I16G8)

119 116 Geez look at my hash, now what in D+D or Pathfinder requires five d8s?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (5d8+l)

4th level Ranger.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2018 08:17 PM (1g7ch)

Nerds!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (NWiLs)

120 Why the hell am i getting Assisted Living ads here? I mean i only forget shit some....wait...what is this place?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'git yer new ballots here!' at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (+6jVU)

121 Arizona is California East.

Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (dczB+)

122 91
Dems also won 233 in 2006. Which is right where they will end up in 218.



So enough of this "Nancy has the teeniest tiniest majority post WW2
and won't pass anything". She passed plenty in 2007 with a similar sized
majority.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:13 PM (wD9H7)

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She also had a Dem Senate and Dubya in the White House, so no.

Wait, what happened after 2006? Anything? Did that majority endure? Someone refresh my memory because I seem to recall some epic red waves between then and now.

Serious question: Does anyone not understand that GOPe purposefully threw the House majority away? 40 retirements, Paul Ryan openly dick-tripping and thwarting easy layups like defunding Planned Parenthood.

So even with the SITTING GOP SPEAKER ACTIVELY WORKING FOR THEM the Dem result was...okay. Not a wave, not great, but okay.

Now the traitors have been flushed out. The ones running in 2020 will be for Trump.

The ball is in Nancy's court, but she had a million ways to screw this up. It's going to fun watching Trump bait her.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (cfSRQ)

123 I don't think many peeps here understand the hatred for OrangeMan that exists out there. A certain slice of voters in AZ would have voted for Sinema if she said she wanted to nuke Phoenix. Rational people look at her methlab comment and think she's finished since no other rational voter could possibly vote for her. But sadly, many people on this planet are nowhere close to rational.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (wD9H7)

124 One lesson from AZ is voters don't care about "gaffes". At least not Dem voters. Sinema said AZ is a shithole multiple times and nobody seems to have cared.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:12 PM (wD9H7)

Probably because her voters are the ones making it into a shithole, and they like it that way.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (fDU8w)

125 What a phagus!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (Evws/)

126 Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'git yer new ballots here!' at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (+6jVU)

I'll take Geezers for $400, Alex.

Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:19 PM (dczB+)

127 120 Why the hell am i getting Assisted Living ads here? I mean i only forget shit some....wait...what is this place?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'git yer new ballots here!' at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (+6jVU)

It's all right Bob. Come on, time for tapioca.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:19 PM (NWiLs)

128 Geez look at my hash, now what in D+D or Pathfinder requires five d8s?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (5d8+l)

Anna, that looks suspeciously like math.

Posted by: tbodie at November 12, 2018 08:19 PM (tBimT)

129 aaaaaaaand now we know that runner is a millennial.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (fuK7c)


um, because of #60 ?
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (bUjCl)



Yes, #60 and #80 share a common source.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:19 PM (fuK7c)

130 'Any horde advice?'

Write MAGA! on your forehead with a red sharpie.

No seriously keep up updated on the proceedings.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:19 PM (UdKB7)

131 Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (cfSRQ)

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My point is her majority will be about what it was in 2007 and in 2007 she got a lot passed. The election is history, no need to re-debate it.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:20 PM (wD9H7)

132 I got a text message from the RNC fundraising off this voter fraud.

They never miss a trick.

Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:20 PM (dczB+)

133 Napoleon was such a moron.

At Moscow, I would have had French paratroopers dropped into the city before committing the main force to march on the city.

At the Berezina, I would have had French seabees deployed in suicide waves on the banks of the river constructing pontoon bridges to get the army across.

Posted by: Max Boof at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (DuAZ5)

134 I'll take Geezers for $400, Alex.

Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:19 PM (dczB+)


It's all right Bob. Come on, time for tapioca.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:19 PM (NWiLs)

LMAO. its Heidi...shes looking isn't she?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'git yer new ballots here!' at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (+6jVU)

135 Well, it's Napoleon Day at the HQ.



Are we going to do Napoleon III tomorrow?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)


Perhaps Klemens von Metternich? Far more appealing in paint and truly the man who made both Emperor Napoleon III and Bismarck possible in his attempt to keep Europe from changing and leaving the Austrian Empire behind in the dust.

There is a nice allegorical painting of Napoleon sitting with Otto von Bismarck after the battle of Sedan, with the captured head of state sitting slumped disconsolate in his red trousers and Republican blue greatcoat and Bismarck in his pickelhaube and leaning on his saber like a concerned grey haired uncle.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (mUa7G)

136 Nancy is a shrew ass bitch. Don't underestimate her. I think it's laughable that anyone thinks she won't be speaker.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (wD9H7)

137 My point is her majority will be about what it was
in 2007 and in 2007 she got a lot passed. The election is history, no
need to re-debate it.





Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:20 PM (wD9H7)

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Like what?

She screwed up the budget, but what else did they do?

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (cfSRQ)

138 Posted by: Cannibal Bob

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You should church it up, Bob. Go with Monsieur Robert Anthropophage.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (5aX2M)

139 @24 Napoleon is much beloved in France. Still.
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Not only was he a great military strategist (to the point that he effectively rewrote the book on how to conduct war in his era), but he also put a stop to the excesses of the Revolution. Admittedly, he did so by running home after abandoning his army in Egypt, and confronting the French government before news got back about the state of the army he'd left behind. But that doesn't change the fact that most Frenchmen probably breathed a sigh of relief when comparing the state of things before Napoleon took over, and after.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (S1hih)

140 >>>So Nappy ultimately was a big failure but a bunch of frogs still loved him. That about right?<<<

The French are no strangers to surrender, but Belgium is another country, so WINNING!

Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (Z9C5C)

141 McSally concedes the AZ senate election to Senator-Elect MethLabOfDemocracy



So 54 not 55. then -3 wobbly, still 51 and 52 with Pence.



Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (bUjCl)
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What about Mississippi?

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (hECVl)

142 So Arizonians, who is Ducey going with? I still say all Cindy McCain has to do is say she wants it and it's hers.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (gNCcC)

143 *shifty eyes

I am not required to know every obscure poet there is ....

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (bUjCl)

144 Able was I ere I saw Elba.

Posted by: Napoleon at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (dMvl+)

145 104. Runner how many times are you going to flunk math.

53. With scott and miss runoff- fifty frickin 3

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (l5hQl)

146 Hey CNN, I think you got some hypocrisy on your tie. Just there. No, other side. Yes, that's the ugly spot.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (pUDQf)

147 7 Well, it's Napoleon Day at the HQ.

Are we going to do Napoleon III tomorrow?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)


So whatever happened to Napoleon II?

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (sdi6R)

148 I smell #neverskankles.

Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2018 08:23 PM (WaxcS)

149 53 (assuming Scott hangs on)

54 was with McSally



Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (wD9H7)

We will be ok with 53.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:23 PM (F/KeJ)

150 now I need to know math too?!

that's it ! I've had enough !

*slams door

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:23 PM (bUjCl)

151 I am not required to know every obscure poet there is ....

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (bUjCl)

Mamma mia!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (dMvl+)

152 Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:13 PM (cfSRQ)

Not worried about Whitmer, I'm worried about the AG and SoS. Both whack job Lefties.

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (kiSdp)

153 In the House it's not about the votes. They can't get diddly passed with the GOP majority in Senate, not to mention PDT's veto power.

The problem is the committees. Come January they will chair all the committees. House Intel Chairman Adam Schiff, anyone?

Posted by: Hands at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (786Ro)

154 Like what?

She screwed up the budget, but what else did they do?
Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (cfSRQ)

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All sorts of fun stuff.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydgfh5yo

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (wD9H7)

155 Napoleon completely misused his air forces. What a waste of men and machines.

Posted by: klaftern at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (RuIsu)

156 136
Nancy is a shrew ass bitch. Don't underestimate her. I think it's laughable that anyone thinks she won't be speaker.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (wD9H7)

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I'm counting on it.

See, back in 2009, Dems were so deluded that they thought Obama would save the House, so they happily went full-on leftist retard.

But it didn't work.

So I'm interested to see how many newly-minted congresscritters Nancy's going to convince to walk the plank for bills that will only end up dying in the Senate.

Or I guess she could shut the government down for the next two years.

That'll make everyone want to elect more Dems.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (cfSRQ)

157 now I need to know math too?!



that's it ! I've had enough !



*slams door

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:23 PM (bUjCl)

A train leaves Cleveland going 100 mile per hour...

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (F/KeJ)

158
VP Pence only counts as a Senate vote when there's a tie.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo, Digitally Remastered at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (Z9Slr)

159 The French always believed themselves to be the center of the world; Napoleon almost made it true.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (dMvl+)

160 53 should be OK in the senate. Flake and Corker were problematic and they're both gone. So 53 without those 2 to worry about is a nice buffer.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (wD9H7)

161
They are the world's gossips, pick up and retail the camp
scandal.... They are also tempted to prophesy events and state facts
which, to an enemy, reveal a purpose in time to guard against it.
Moreover, they are always bound to see facts colored by the partisan or
political character of their own patrons, and thus bring army officers
into the political controversies of the day, which are always
mischievous and wrong.


That, and they're really some self-loving pricks.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (oVJmc)

162 Napoleon III: Steampunk Boogaloo

Posted by: Hands at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (786Ro)

163 Truth is, i had indiana and fl going dem in senate before election. I knew heller would lose. I thought code pink would doom enema. I missed one, and i am happy with 53 on a bad election. Tester is a pain in the ass, but irrelevant in a gop senate

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (l5hQl)

164 Mamma mia!
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (dMvl+)

ABBA ?!

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:26 PM (bUjCl)

165 So Arizonians, who is Ducey going with? I still say all Cindy McCain has to do is say she wants it and it's hers.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (gNCcC)

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If what I read about McSally conceding the race is correct, it doesn't matter anymore.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:26 PM (I16G8)

166 Nancy is a shrew ass bitch. Don't underestimate her. I think it's laughable that anyone thinks she won't be speaker.



Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (wD9H7)

I for one am counting on it... Granny Rictus is exactly the spokesman for the Dems that they should have.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:26 PM (F/KeJ)

167 The problem is the committees. Come January they will chair all the committees. House Intel Chairman Adam Schiff, anyone?

Posted by: Hands at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (786Ro)

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Yeah, but we know that House subpoenas are now optional. Obama showed us that.

Besides, how much fun will it be when Trump hits back by declassifying EVERYTHING.

Go long on popcorn.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:26 PM (cfSRQ)

168
You should church it up, Bob. Go with Monsieur Robert Anthropophage.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:21 PM (5aX2M)

Gees you guys. For God's sake I don't need Last Rites.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2018 08:26 PM (+6jVU)

169 A train leaves Cleveland going 100 mile per hour...


The train is called the Dancing Queen. It is driven by Fernando.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:26 PM (fuK7c)

170 Oh geez. Grammie is going to beat runner to death with a platform boot.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:26 PM (NWiLs)

171 Right lurker, and blackburn is great upgrade for the conservative movement

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:27 PM (l5hQl)

172 148 I smell #neverskankles.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2018 08:23 PM (WaxcS)

and hear the buzzing of flies.

Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:27 PM (dczB+)

173 Dems went full retard in 2009 because they figured nationalizing health care was worth losing an election in 2010. Elections come and go, but nationalizing health care is forever.

I wish Republicans would pull that shit once in a while, like repeal OCare and elections be damned. Or eliminate the IRS and elections be damned. Hell, just cut spending 2% and elections be damned.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:27 PM (wD9H7)

174 So Arizonians, who is Ducey going with? I still say all Cindy McCain has to do is say she wants it and it's hers.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM (gNCcC)




Going with for what? McCain's seat has done been filled.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:27 PM (F/KeJ)

175 155 Napoleon completely misused his air forces. What a waste of men and machines.
Posted by: klaftern at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (RuIsu)

there is a fun fantasy series where Napoleon gets dragons
the first book is "Temeraire"

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:27 PM (dMvl+)

176 A train leaves Cleveland going 100 mile per hour...
Posted by: redbanzai

twelve crows fly overhead, how many passengers left standing at platform ?

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:27 PM (bUjCl)

177 All sorts of fun stuff.



https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydgfh5yo

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (wD9H7)

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And Dubya signed it? (No, I didn't click on the link.)

My point is she can pass whatever she wants and it won't go anywhere.

And the crazier she gets, well, the more reasons voters have to bounce her thin-skulled minions.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:27 PM (cfSRQ)

178 theres also NAPOLEAN XIV
https://tinyurl.com/8qo298x

Posted by: lancewing plover at November 12, 2018 08:27 PM (waFTo)

179 We will be ok with 53.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:23 PM (F/KeJ)

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I hope so.

If the abortion twins and Sassy Ben form a bloc with Mitt, we'll be in for a long couple years. He has McCain II: Swamp Creature Boogaloo written all over him. At least he probably won't have a committee assignment this cycle, though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:28 PM (5aX2M)

180 Mcsally needs to run for her house again

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:28 PM (l5hQl)

181 "If what I read about McSally conceding the race is correct, it doesn't matter anymore"


I'm talking about McCain's old seat, Kyl's stepping down, he just took it till the end on this session for the SCOTUS vote.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 08:28 PM (gNCcC)

182 I wonder if it would be possible to honey-trap Sinema into carpet-munching an under-age girl, and get it on video?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2018 08:28 PM (fDU8w)

183 I know from ABBA. I do !

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:28 PM (bUjCl)

184 A train leaves Cleveland going 100 mile per hour...
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (F/KeJ)

Well no shit. Who would want to stay in Cleveland?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:28 PM (NWiLs)

185 Well, it's Napoleon Day at the HQ.

Are we going to do Napoleon III tomorrow?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 07:53 PM

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So whatever happened to Napoleon II?
Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:22 PM


Feh.

Posted by: Henry VIII at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (DMUuz)

186 177 All sorts of fun stuff.



https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydgfh5yo

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (wD9H7)

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And Dubya signed it? (No, I didn't click on the link.)


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He signed a lot of it. The biggest one was increasing the minimum wage. Also the stimulus of 2008 which literally sent everyone a check. Good old fashioned vote buying, lol.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (wD9H7)

187 So basically in the two years since Trump has been President pro Trumpers have been loud and rowdy. At least I have. I was thinking now that his reign is basically over maybe the Dems just let this happen to gather us Trumpers up in the FEMA camps soon.. If you think about it Trump voters are the only remnants of Americanism left on the planet, preventing the rise of the NWO. Once we go down thats it.. It is also the reason Dems are out in the open with their agenda now..IMHO

Posted by: He who dont know what the hell is going on at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (ICWiF)

188 In the House it's not about the votes. They can't get diddly passed with the GOP majority in Senate, not to mention PDT's veto power.

The problem is the committees. Come January they will chair all the committees. House Intel Chairman Adam Schiff, anyone?
Posted by: Hands at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (786Ro)

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The other issue is the supposed "subpeona bomb" they are putting together now. 85 House subpeonas if what I've heard is correct.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (I16G8)

189

I for one am counting on it... Granny Rictus is exactly the spokesman for the Dems that they should have.

In a sane world, that crazy bitch wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the levers of power.

#WASTF it isn't even funny anymore. And here I thought things would improve under PDT. What an idiot I am.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (HaL55)

190
I wish Republicans would pull that shit once in a while, like repeal OCare and elections be damned. Or eliminate the IRS and elections be damned. Hell, just cut spending 2% and elections be damned.
--

Yeah, they like going to the parties that the Democrats hold and "reaching across the aisle" in a bipartisan way.


So your scenario is NEVER going to happen. EVER.

Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2018 08:30 PM (z1Dz9)

191 Oh sit, that's right, I forgot about Mittens. So really we're at 52.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:30 PM (wD9H7)

192 I aint going to no camp.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:30 PM (UdKB7)

193 I just don't know words to Waterloo...

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:30 PM (bUjCl)

194 Napoleon's greatest mistake in Egypt was failing to first oust Qaddafi in Libya.

With the oil reserves of Libya in hand there would have been no stopping him.

Posted by: Samantha Power at November 12, 2018 08:30 PM (DuAZ5)

195 173
Dems went full retard in 2009 because they figured nationalizing health
care was worth losing an election in 2010. Elections come and go, but
nationalizing health care is forever.



I wish Republicans would pull that shit once in a while, like repeal
OCare and elections be damned. Or eliminate the IRS and elections be
damned. Hell, just cut spending 2% and elections be damned.





Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:27 PM (wD9H7)

---
Losing the House was a necessary precondition to getting a working majority. Those committee chairs and GOPe stalwarts were too entrenched to be primaried. And Paul Ryan was playing a double game the whole time.

So now the ranks have been purged and should we get majority, it will be one more like 1994 than the GOPe porkfest under Boehner and Ryan.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:30 PM (cfSRQ)

196 179
If the abortion twins and Sassy Ben form a bloc with Mitt, we'll be in for a long couple years. He has McCain II: Swamp Creature Boogaloo written all over him. At least he probably won't have a committee assignment this cycle, though.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:28 PM (5aX2M)


I wouldn't put anything past the GOPe. They regard Romney as an Elder Statesman, so I can see them waiving seniority rules for him.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

197 The other issue is the supposed "subpeona bomb" they are putting together now. 85 House subpeonas if what I've heard is correct.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (I16G

People who live in glass houses should not throw rocks.

Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:30 PM (dczB+)

198
I for one am counting on it... Granny Rictus is exactly the spokesman for the Dems that they should have.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:26 PM (F/KeJ)


Hopefully Trump will endorse her and the Repubs vote for her (I hear the minority party usually abstains).

Keep her talking long enough and you'll be able to pin down the strokes as she descends into pure gibberish (currently at about 40% now).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2018 08:31 PM (1g7ch)

199 #WASTF it isn't even funny anymore. And here I thought things would improve under PDT. What an idiot I am.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (HaL55)

Not that I disagree that we're totally fucked, but what PDT was able to accomplish to date is nothing short of miraculous, considering the unrelenting treason by the Deep State and the equally unrelenting propaganda against him by the MFM.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:31 PM (NWiLs)

200 who are the abortion twins?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:31 PM (dMvl+)

201
I hope so.



If the abortion twins and Sassy Ben form a bloc with Mitt, we'll be
in for a long couple years. He has McCain II: Swamp Creature Boogaloo
written all over him. At least he probably won't have a committee
assignment this cycle, though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:28 PM (5aX2M)

Sasse talks big but McConnell can and does whip him into line (I only wish it was with an actual whip). Sasse's constituents will not tolerate him being McCain no matter how badly he wants to.

Romney and the twisted sisters I expect will have Pence going over to cast tie breaking votes frequently.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:31 PM (F/KeJ)

202 Napoleon had a son, by Louisa (?). His second wife. Died young.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (bUjCl)

203 "
68
Something became clear to me the other day that is a prime obstacle in fighting back the Left:

-The Left's definition of itself (good, virtuous, holy, loving) is the premise we are given to begin with, and--

-The Left's definition of Us (haters, bigots, greedy, Hitler) is the starting line are given to begin with.

We
start in a hole. Our arguments are dispensed with (since we are
monsters), and rejection of the Left is itself rejected (since they are
such bright angels).

This premise originates in simple-minded
emotionalism and the rationales provided by Academia, but the enforcer
of that dogma is the media.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2018 08:09 PM (oVJmc) "

It's not simple-minded. It's supremely elegant and effective, but also evil.
They have defined good as themselves, and right as what they declare (being good), and all who oppose them as bad, and thus wrong. Denial of objective reality removes the need for consistency and allows their starting premise to work forever and always.
The solution to this is to say NO and make it stick. How much effort you are willing to put forth to convert some of them before crushing them is a matter of personal ethics; I don't really give a shit either way.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (eAshZ)

204 who are the abortion twins?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:31 PM (dMvl+)

Collins and Merkowski.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (F/KeJ)

205 Why do people assume someone other than Nancy would be any less vicious and hell bent on destroying Trump/America?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (wD9H7)

206 He signed a lot of it. The biggest one was
increasing the minimum wage. Also the stimulus of 2008 which literally
sent everyone a check. Good old fashioned vote buying, lol.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (wD9H7)

---
And the Bushes wonder why we didn't give Jeb! the time of day...

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (cfSRQ)

207
155 Napoleon completely misused his air forces. What a waste of men and machines.
Posted by: klaftern at November 12, 2018


Once the prevaling westerly winds blew his balloons into and behind the Russian lines with no chance to return, the Grand Army was pretty much doomed.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (pNxlR)

208 179. Wrong. Sasse up in 2020 in pro trump nebraska. He will vote for judges and appointments, like he has for last two years. Collins is needed for judges and she saved us on Kav.

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (l5hQl)

209 200 who are the abortion twins?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:31 PM (dMvl+)

Collins and Murky

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (kiSdp)

210 @147 So whatever happened to Napoleon II?
--------------

Napoleon's son. He died young with no children. And despite the number after his name, he never really ruled anything.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (S1hih)

211 though we never thought that we could lose
there's no regrets

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (dMvl+)

212 Hopefully Trump will endorse her and the Repubs vote for her (I hear the minority party usually abstains)

Vote the future! Vote Occasional-Cortex!!!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (DMUuz)

213 VM, Collins and Coke Bear are the abortion twins.

Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (zZXDy)

214 Napoleon's greatest mistake in Egypt was failing to first oust Qaddafi in Libya.

With the oil reserves of Libya in hand there would have been no stopping him.



Plus he didn't adapt quickly enough. He didn't appreciate that Rommel had encrypted internet and that's why he always anticipated Nap's moves.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (fuK7c)

215 Do you really think Mittens will vote as a squish after how badly he got fucked with during the election?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (pUDQf)

216 I'm talking about McCain's old seat, Kyl's stepping down, he just took it till the end on this session for the SCOTUS vote.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 08:28 PM (gNCcC)

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Then I don't know. I thought Kyl was good through 2019, but would not run in 2020.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (I16G8)

217 who are the abortion twins?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:31 PM (dMvl+)

------

Collins and Murkowski

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (5aX2M)

218
61 More likely, they will ban menthol from smokes only, and smokers will compensate by sucking a Halls while smoking.
Posted by: jdgalt at November 12, 2018 08:03 PM (3SFo/)

Cough drops will move behind the counters and pharmacists will have to see picture ID and note the buyer in the logbook before they can sell them.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 08:07 PM (t+qrx


I am going to patent a menthol cough-drop anti-aspiration device (TM) so u do not inhale said cough drop while sucking your fag.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (kkwkH)

219 208 179. Wrong. Sasse up in 2020 in pro trump nebraska. He will vote for judges and appointments, like he has for last two years. Collins is needed for judges and she saved us on Kav.
Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (l5hQl)

___

Sasse has said he is not running for re-election. He will be the Corker/Flake of 2019-0. Nothing to lose and ready to fuck shit up for Republicans.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (wD9H7)

220 Heard some guy named Timothy Snyder holding forth on NPR a few minutes ago on the lessons learned from the agreements after WW I and WW II. In reference to Trump's visit to France. Called politicians who look to their national interests first "cowardly". He brought up the Russian Threat. Contrasted it to the peace-enhancing activities of the European Union. Didn't hear him bring up the Chinese Threat.

The interchange with the moderator was frustrating. But I was in my car. Wish I had a transcript.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (BVQ+1)

221 And the Bushes wonder why we didn't give Jeb! the time of day...
I forget who said it, and where (possibly Twitter), but my favorite read on Jeb! was along the lines of "The answer to a question nobody is asking."

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (waFTo)

222 Ben Sasse looks like a SoyBoi whose balls have yet to drop. Does he even have to shave?

Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (zZXDy)

223 Napoleon was exiled to Elba as a treaty provision after having lost the war to pretty much every other country in Europe.

What difference at this point does it make?

I can't save every undercapitalized army in Europe!

Posted by: Hillary *hic* Clinton at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (DuAZ5)

224 53 will be good for judicial confirmations and most executive appointments. Laws, though...yikes.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (fYi9j)

225 163 Truth is, i had indiana and fl going dem in senate before election. I knew heller would lose. I thought code pink would doom enema. I missed one, and i am happy with 53 on a bad election. Tester is a pain in the ass, but irrelevant in a gop senate

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:25 PM (l5hQl)



Donnelly hatred ran deep.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (kkwkH)

226 menthol cigarettes worse than regular ones? And no I'm not being snarky, I rally don't know.

.....

I dunno. But I know this, brothers love to smoke them some Newports.

Trump could score himself so votes in the AA community by opposing a menthol ban.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (jZQUe)

227 I wouldn't put anything past the GOPe. They regard
Romney as an Elder Statesman, so I can see them waiving seniority rules
for him.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

---
Maybe before, but I think attitudes have hardened.

I bet Mitt finds himself constantly pranked by newly-virile Lindsay Graham.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (cfSRQ)

228 @196
I wouldn't put anything past the GOPe. They regard Romney as an Elder Statesman, so I can see them waiving seniority rules for him.
--------------

I'm not so sure. McConnell might see him as a threat if Romney gets too much seniority too quickly.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 08:35 PM (S1hih)

229 I for one am counting on it... Granny Rictus is exactly the spokesman for the Dems that they should have.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:26 PM (F/KeJ)
++++++++++++++
I hope the open commies in the party pull off an upset and get Crazy Eyes Cortez in as speaker. I'd go long popcorn immediately if that happened.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 08:35 PM (hYcqw)

230
Plus he didn't adapt quickly enough. He didn't appreciate that Rommel had encrypted internet and that's why he always anticipated Nap's moves.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (fuK7c)


He was foolhardily dismissive of the strategic opportunities offered by T E Lawrence and Faisal's Arab Legion, too.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 12, 2018 08:35 PM (pNxlR)

231 187
If you think about it Trump voters are the only remnants of Americanism left on the planet, preventing the rise of the NWO. Once we go down thats it..

Posted by: He who dont know what the hell is going on at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (ICWiF)


Yep.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:35 PM (sdi6R)

232 The problem is the committees. Come January they will chair all the committees. House Intel Chairman Adam Schiff, anyone?

Posted by: Hands at November 12, 2018 08:24 PM (786Ro)



------------



The other issue is the supposed "subpeona bomb" they are putting
together now. 85 House subpeonas if what I've heard is correct.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (I16G

Let them ask... hell let them demand and stomp their little feet while they are at it. Trump can mostly ignore them. And while they are doing that, they are not passing damaging legislation.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:35 PM (F/KeJ)

233 Another one is Dem jones of bama up in 2020. We will see how he votes on circuit court judges in lame duck session. He voted against kav, but he sticks with schumer, tells you he is not running in 20

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:36 PM (l5hQl)

234 Do you really think Mittens will vote as a squish after how badly he got fucked with during the election?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 12, 2018 08:33 PM (pUDQf)
+++++++++
Yes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 08:36 PM (hYcqw)

235
I hope the open commies in the party pull off an upset and get Crazy Eyes Cortez in as speaker. I'd go long popcorn immediately if that happened.


Especially if she winds up living in a tent in Lafayette Park.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 12, 2018 08:36 PM (pNxlR)

236 220
Heard some guy named Timothy Snyder holding forth on NPR a few minutes
ago on the lessons learned from the agreements after WW I and WW II. In
reference to Trump's visit to France. Called politicians who look to
their national interests first "cowardly". He brought up the Russian
Threat. Contrasted it to the peace-enhancing activities of the European
Union. Didn't hear him bring up the Chinese Threat.



The interchange with the moderator was frustrating. But I was in my car. Wish I had a transcript.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (BVQ+1)

---
So Reagan was right, then?

Because I always heard he was a warmonger. Good to know.

Fun fact: We have bigger effective land forces than Russia. We could literally take them out if we wanted.

What's the gain, though?

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM (cfSRQ)

237 231 187
If you think about it Trump voters are the only remnants of Americanism left on the planet, preventing the rise of the NWO. Once we go down thats it..

Posted by: He who dont know what the hell is going on at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (ICWiF)

Yep.
Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:35 PM (sdi6R)

The SEC states.

Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM (zZXDy)

238 Do you really think Mittens will vote as a squish after how badly he got fucked with during the election?
He has some kind of Stockholm Syndrome-- a normal human, after having been slandered and slimed and libelled and mocked so mercilessly during his race would Hulk out, at least a little.

Instead, he's Mr. Rino Never-Trump.

Sad!

Posted by: lancewing plover at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM (waFTo)

239 'I wouldn't put anything past the GOPe. '

My expectation is that they will do everything possible to fuck it up.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM (UdKB7)

240 Yudhishthira @ 179- You are on the money about Mitt. Now we know where McCain's soul went to.

Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM (zLDYs)

241 Means squat on subpoenas. Americans want economy to stay good with divided govt. do not want piddly crap from house

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM (l5hQl)

242 Our 7th grade history teacher as part of a lesson had the headlines about Napoleans escape from Elba. Thanks for the memory.

I wonder if they still even teach the special little snowflakes such subversive lessons or if those inconvenient facts have been flushed down the memory hole and deleted from the e books.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM (cCxiu)

243 runner #19:
Napoleon III is only a nephew, NOt as noteworthy as the Usurper, so I hope they don't dedicate any space to him

What about Napoleon XIV?

https://youtu.be/3Fn36l_z3WY

Posted by: mindful webworker - ha ha ho ho hee hee at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM (0mP7b)

244 I've always viewed Napoleon's mistake as being the same as Hitler's: launching a spring offensive against Russia while fighting a rearguard action in the West (in his case Spain, instead of Britain).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (5aX2M)

245 Collins is needed for judges and she saved us on Kav.

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:32 PM (l5hQl)



Collins is not needed with 53.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (F/KeJ)

246 Anybody want to answer my question about the vote tally in FL being confirmed (meaning all the 90k plus 'found' ballots have been tossed)? This must happen prior to recounts. If no ref point exists what the fuck are we counting against?

Also.. lurking lurker.. dude you need to pour yourself some scotch and get a hold of yourself. Jeezuz

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (aR6C/)

247 I personally think Romney is going to make Flake look like a rock-solid conservative, but what care I for such things at this moment?

The hams and bacon arrived today, fresh from my Uncle Custis, and the first one came out of the oven just a few short hours ago. Lawsy.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (90KoH)

248
Do you really think Mittens will vote as a squish after how badly he got fucked with during the election?


Since as yet there has never been a successful backbone transplant, how could he be anything but a squish?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (pNxlR)

249 menthol cigarettes worse than regular ones? And no I'm not being snarky, I rally don't know.

.....

I dunno. But I know this, brothers love to smoke them some Newports.

Trump could score himself so votes in the AA community by opposing a menthol ban.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2018 08:34 PM (jZQUe)


Menthol is also addictive and also has health side effects.

BUT the reason they've tried to ban menthol in the past is not due to health effects, but because there's some asinine idea that "flavored" cigarettes are marketed to minors.

Camel used to have all kinds of flavored cigarettes, which were banned in 2009 or so on that theory. Which sucks, because they were pretty good for the occasional "desert" type cigarette. Menthol only survived because of the intervention of (I kid you not) the Congressional Black Caucus members.

They're now trying to do this with vape juice. "only disgusting 'tobacco flavor' vape juice appeals to adults, while the other 150,000 flavors appeal primarily to children."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (GBteo)

250 187
If you think about it Trump voters are the only remnants of Americanism left on the planet, preventing the rise of the NWO. Once we go down thats it..

.....

I dunno 'bout that.

How long did they manage to keep the EU in tact before citizens of various countries started moving towards nationalism?

It's hard to manage a classroom of 5 year olds. Good luck maintaining world order under a globalist rule.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (jZQUe)

251
Collins is not needed with 53.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (F/KeJ)

___

Wanna bet?

Posted by: Mittens, Sasse and Murkowski at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (wD9H7)

252 Especially if she winds up living in a tent in Lafayette Park.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 12, 2018 08:36 PM (pNxlR)
++++++++++
"Daddy, who is that crazy lady raving on the street corner? What are those little books she's handing out?"

"Honey, that is Speaker of the House. She shouts slogans here when she isn't running an entire house of congress. It is easy for her, because she lives in this very park. Those books are called 'poorly mimeographed socialist newsletters' and you don't want one."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 08:39 PM (hYcqw)

253 There is a runoff election Nov. 27th in Mississippi for Thad Cochran's seat between Cindy-Hyde Smith and Mike Epsy.
I sure hope we can keep this seat.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2018 08:39 PM (hECVl)

254 Mitt is a much different spot than mccain. Mccain with gop in total control could play maverick. With dem house mitt means nothing on legislation, only judges, and we do not need his vote

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:39 PM (l5hQl)

255 NPR also played up the singing of the bloody French national anthem yesterday as a reminder of the high ideals upon which the French republic was founded. They didn't mention any history between then and WW I.

Side note on Macron's speech yesterday, which he did not repeat in German for some reason: If you know any French at all, you can generally understand a speech by a French politician perfectly, because they are trained in diction. Different story with radio announcers.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at November 12, 2018 08:39 PM (BVQ+1)

256 Do you really think Mittens will vote as a squish after how badly he got fucked with during the election?
He
has some kind of Stockholm Syndrome-- a normal human, after having been
slandered and slimed and libelled and mocked so mercilessly during his
race would Hulk out, at least a little.

Instead, he's Mr. Rino Never-Trump.

Sad!



Posted by: lancewing plover at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM (waFTo)

Absolutely Willard will cuck it up hard... he already is with his pronouncements that Trump better not mess with Mueller's investigation.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:39 PM (F/KeJ)

257 They're now trying to do this with vape juice. "only disgusting 'tobacco flavor' vape juice appeals to adults, while the other 150,000 flavors appeal primarily to children."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (GBteo)

Which is just made-up horseshit, like the claim Joe Camel was designed to promote smoking to kids.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:39 PM (NWiLs)

258

Not that I disagree that we're totally fucked, but what PDT was able to
accomplish to date is nothing short of miraculous, considering the
unrelenting treason by the Deep State and the equally unrelenting
propaganda against him by the MFM.


His agenda is DIW for the next two years. Letting those Progs slither back into power destroyed it. And they'll be doing their dead level best to "resist."
Thanks GOPe. We didn't even get a kiss.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 08:40 PM (HaL55)

259 Fun fact: We have bigger effective land forces than Russia. We could literally take them out if we wanted.

What's the gain, though?

Napoleon, like Hitler later on, learned too late about Russia's greatest warrior, General Winter.
If I may connect some threads in this thread.

Posted by: lancewing plover at November 12, 2018 08:40 PM (waFTo)

260 Flake was a grade A asshole and said a lot of shit. But his voting record was actually pretty good. He voted to repeal Ocare, voted for the tax cuts and voted for Kav.

On the big stuff, he voted the right way.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:40 PM (wD9H7)

261 @243 What about Napoleon XIV?
---------------

Loser.

Napoleon *DYNAMITE* is where it's at. We should have a post about him.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 08:40 PM (S1hih)

262 Since as yet there has never been a successful backbone transplant, how could he be anything but a squish?

Miss Lindsey excepted?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 12, 2018 08:40 PM (DMUuz)

263 Collins is not needed with 53.



Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (F/KeJ)



___



Wanna bet?

Posted by: Mittens, Sasse and Murkowski at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (wD9H7)

Sasse isn't in their league.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:41 PM (F/KeJ)

264 Though I had changed my sock, but NOOOO.
Let's see if this holds.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 12, 2018 08:41 PM (waFTo)

265 https://youtu.be/3Fn36l_z3WY



LOL

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:41 PM (bUjCl)

266 Which is just made-up horseshit, like the claim Joe Camel was designed to promote smoking to kids.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:39 PM (NWiLs)

Right. Like it's clever lawyering to make that argument, no doubt.

but the fact that anyone buys that? Cmon.

Let alone that it's not accepted fact?

Ugh.

Same with flavored tobacco products. Guess who else prefers vape juice that tastes like candy instead of like a disgusting plant (smell unburned tobacco some time)?

Yeah, everyone.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 08:42 PM (GBteo)

267 What about Napoleon XIV?



https://youtu.be/3Fn36l_z3WY

See me at #178.
Ha ha ho ho hee hee.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 12, 2018 08:42 PM (waFTo)

268 Ducey will choose McSally.

Posted by: WIGOPer at November 12, 2018 08:42 PM (AQZqG)

269 253. Get real. Espy is a joke. Smith is a woman, no roy moore moment by the media

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:42 PM (l5hQl)

270 Maxine Waters paid her daughter $200,000 for some BS job.

There is plenty of corruption in the Democrat party.
They have gotten away with it for far too long. When they start their subpoenas, I have no doubt that the Orange Man will have plenty to say about it.



Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:42 PM (dczB+)

271 268. Hope not. She would lose in 2020

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:43 PM (l5hQl)

272 250
How long did they manage to keep the EU in tact before citizens of various countries started moving towards nationalism?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2018 08:38 PM (jZQUe)


The European nationalist movements don't have any real power so far. And they, like us deplorables, are routinely condemned as Nazis in the media.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:43 PM (sdi6R)

273 McSally phoned in the election knowing she'd be appointed.

Stupid Party once again.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:43 PM (wD9H7)

274 Do you really think Mittens will vote as a squish after how badly he got fucked with during the election?

Hell yes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2018 08:43 PM (oVJmc)

275 Fun fact: We have bigger effective land forces than Russia. We could literally take them out if we wanted.

What's the gain, though?
Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:37 PM



Speaking of Russian land, does anyone know what happened to Uncle Palp?

Posted by: Hands at November 12, 2018 08:43 PM (786Ro)

276 "231 187
If you think about it Trump voters are the only remnants of Americanism left on the planet, preventing the rise of the NWO. Once we go down thats it..

Posted by: He who dont know what the hell is going on at November 12, 2018 08:29 PM (ICWiF)

Yep.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:35 PM (sdi6R) "


Exactly.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 12, 2018 08:44 PM (tSXzq)

277 People start smoking because they're dumb 15 year olds who want to be cool. A camel on a box or menthol as a reason is idiotic.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:44 PM (wD9H7)

278 I wonder if they still even teach the special little snowflakes such subversive lessons or if those inconvenient facts have been flushed down the memory hole and deleted from the e books.
=====

Now what do you think?

Posted by: Howard Zinn at November 12, 2018 08:44 PM (//voU)

279
- 2018
- not giving out candy flavored vape juice to children on Halloween

Fucking plebs.

Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 08:45 PM (zZXDy)

280 Same with flavored tobacco products. Guess who else prefers vape juice
that tastes like candy instead of like a disgusting plant (smell
unburned tobacco some time)?

Bob Newhart had a bit on the introduction of tobacco to Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XDxAzVEbN4

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 12, 2018 08:45 PM (waFTo)

281 Ducey will choose McSally.

Posted by: WIGOPer at November 12, 2018 08:42 PM (AQZqG)

Wow, you are a persistent little pot stirrer aren't you. As I told you yesterday, Ducey already filled McCain's seat and he did not fill it with McSally. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Kyl for details on Arizona's now senior Senator.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:45 PM (F/KeJ)

282 @244 I've always viewed Napoleon's mistake as being the same as Hitler's: launching a spring offensive against Russia while fighting a rearguard action in the West (in his case Spain, instead of Britain).
-----------------

What was going on in Spain didn't really make any difference. Napoleon essentially lost his entire army in Russia. And without the army, he had no solid core of veterans to build around the following year. Unlike the Germans in World War 2, the countries that Napoleon had defeated during his campaigns still existed, many of them with their original rulers. They even sent small contingents of troops to fight against Russia (though those units weren't with the main army heading to Moscow, iirc).

So when Napoleon lost his army in Russia, Austria and Prussia increased the sizes of their existing armies, and announced that they were marching on Paris the following year. The biggest battle of the Napoleonic Era was the Battle of Nations which had troops from pretty much every country that fought in Europe during that time period (including troops from Sweden, under their new king, who was one of Napoleon's old generals, now fighting against Napoleon). It took place the year after the disaster in Russia.
The British contribution to that battle consisted of a single rocket battery.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (S1hih)

283 I smell #neverskankles

Have wondering about that myself, lately.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (Tyii7)

284 Now what do you think?
Posted by: Howard Zinn at November 12, 2018 08:44 PM (//voU)
+++++++++++++
I was in a Barnes & Noble a few weeks ago and they had multiple copies of that miserable agitprop masquerading as American history available. There have been at least three copies in every B&N I have ever visited for as long as I can remember.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (hYcqw)

285 Fun fact: We have bigger effective land forces than Russia. We could literally take them out if we wanted.

What's the gain, though?
---------

First of all, there is no such thing as land war anymore.

But, that aside, as Palp would tell you, one of the Russians strengths is that they have no regard for casualties. In the first ten days of Barbarosa, they lost 2,000,000 men. Throughout the war, they lost ~25,000,000. After that, Stalin started in on his own people.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (CDGwz)

286 The European nationalist movements don't have any real power so far. And they, like us deplorables, are routinely condemned as Nazis in the media.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:43 PM

....

Well Brexit was a kick in the nutsack, but it appears the British government is refusing to follow the will of the people.

I suspect there will be consequences.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (jZQUe)

287 Trump will play the clinton obama handbook of 1995 and 2011. Make the speaker the boogeyman and confirm judges

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (l5hQl)

288 I credit Napolean for initiating the Louisiana Purchase.
The Deal of Forever.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (w7KSn)

289
Speaking of Russian land, does anyone know what happened to Uncle Palp?

Posted by: Hands at November 12, 2018 08:43 PM (786Ro)



Buying helicopters and training pilots?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (SiINZ)

290 McSally phoned in the election knowing she'd be appointed.



Stupid Party once again.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 12, 2018 08:43 PM (wD9H7)

No she didn't. That seat was filled several months ago.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (F/KeJ)

291

Means squat on subpoenas. Americans want economy to stay good with divided govt. do not want piddly crap from house

When did anybody in DC start caring about what we want? Or even care about doing the right thing, like following our Constitution? Or enforcing voting laws?


And you just know that the DC Mafia Don, Shuck Fumer, will compromise some other GOP pussy in the Senate like he did with Dondi. No one is immune from his reach.
One or two of them is all it takes now and he knows it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 08:47 PM (HaL55)

292 Good tobacco has a real taste and smell that you can't get with a vape. It has to be smoked to get it's true essence.
Cigarette tobacco might as well be pencil shavings.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:47 PM (UdKB7)

293 We now have a literal Taliban supporter as a US Senator from Arizona.

God our country is turning to shit.

Either there is no hope for America because people's brains have turned to shit, or it was outright voter fraud.

Which is it?

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 12, 2018 08:47 PM (trMj1)

294 Russia has 10 time zones.
Ten.
It is basically ungovernable.
'twas ever thus.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at November 12, 2018 08:48 PM (w7KSn)

295 How does a hedge fund hustler who grew up in Michigan, ran a Boston hedge fund that cheated millions out of millions, installed socialist medicine in Mass., ran an amateur campaign for president, now in a real position to derail and obstruct the MAGA agenda?

Posted by: I'll take Mormon Elders for 500, Alex at November 12, 2018 08:48 PM (9X60i)

296 Either there is no hope for America because people's brains have turned to shit, or it was outright voter fraud.

Which is it?
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 12, 2018 08:47 PM (trMj1)
++++++++++++
Column A, meet column B.

A little from each side will take it over the line.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 08:48 PM (hYcqw)

297 Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (S1hih)

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Fair enough.

*doffs cap*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 08:49 PM (5aX2M)

298 Either there is no hope for America because people's brains have turned to shit, or it was outright voter fraud.

Which is it?
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 12, 2018 08:47 PM (trMj1)


A little of A and a little of B. But the stupidity of some people is amazing.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2018 08:49 PM (SiINZ)

299 294 Russia has 10 time zones.
Ten.
It is basically ungovernable.
'twas ever thus.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at November 12, 2018 08:48 PM (w7KSn)

Putin is a real stud.

Posted by: ALH at November 12, 2018 08:49 PM (dczB+)

300 Either there is no hope for America because people's brains have turned to shit, or it was outright voter fraud.

Which is it?
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 12, 2018 08:47 PM (trMj1)

---

Embrace the power of "and".

Posted by: SMH at November 12, 2018 08:49 PM (/Yg5r)

301
At least he probably won't have a committee assignment this cycle, though.


Everyone gets a committee assignment - what are you talking about?

He might not get a committee chairmanship.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 12, 2018 08:49 PM (pNxlR)

302 I credit Napolean for initiating the Louisiana Purchase.


Well, yay for us. But how much long range thinking went into "what could the middle third of a continent with a huge navigable river ever be worth?"

He was broke on a war binge and not thinking straight.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:49 PM (fuK7c)

303 Now I want a cigar. We should have a cigar thread.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:49 PM (UdKB7)

304 Either there is no hope for America because people's brains have turned to shit, or it was outright voter fraud.

Which is it?

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 12, 2018 08:47 PM

.....

Embrace the power of and.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2018 08:50 PM (jZQUe)

305 Yes, he needed to raise money to make flat bottomed boats with which to invade England.

Advantage, Jefferson.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at November 12, 2018 08:50 PM (w7KSn)

306 Good pipe tobacco is also very amazing.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at November 12, 2018 08:51 PM (fnWQo)

307 Now I want a cigar. We should have a cigar thread.
Posted by: freaked at N



not much of a thread. like em. don't like em. done.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2018 08:51 PM (MTjB1)

308 First it'll be Kools and Newports, then they'll go after the malt liquor forties.

"Life is hard for a pimp out here."

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 12, 2018 08:51 PM (bML9A)

309 Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:45 PM (F/KeJ)

Kyl only agreed to serve until December (next month).

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at November 12, 2018 08:51 PM (l7Kbv)

310 What does Mit gain from playing McCain II? That's the part I don't get.

Payback for Trump? Didn't he meet with Trump to ask him to step aside? Seems like Trump is the one who deserves payback.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 12, 2018 08:51 PM (pUDQf)

311 Come on in here girl, have a cigar. You're gonna go far. Heh.

Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at November 12, 2018 08:52 PM (Tyii7)

312 One thing the AZ results confirms is how absolutely worthless the GOP numbers analysts on twitter are. Larry Schweikart, Bill Mitchell and all the rest thought AZ early voting was going great and they all thought being up 17,000 votes after election night made McSally the heavy favorite.

Idiots.

All it took was to read one Dem guy who said that AZ always adds at least a point or two to the Dems total post-election and Sinema would win.

Hope everyone is ready for Senator McSally next year. It's coming and she'll lose in 2020.

Posted by: WIGOPer at November 12, 2018 08:52 PM (AQZqG)

313 Putin is a real stud.
======

I'd hit it.

Posted by: Shep! at November 12, 2018 08:52 PM (//voU)

314 Good tobacco has a real taste and smell that you can't get with a vape. It has to be smoked to get it's true essence.
Cigarette tobacco might as well be pencil shavings.
Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:47 PM

^^^This. *lights pipe*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2018 08:52 PM (DVvHX)

315 He was broke on a war binge and not thinking straight.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:49 PM (fuK7c)

he was playing for all the marbles
and he lost

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 08:52 PM (dMvl+)

316 I walked through B&N on the way into the mall today. I've never bought a book there.

Anyhow, prominently displayed in the window was a promo poster for her book. You all want to see it right?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9j2glyn

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 08:52 PM (CDGwz)

317 redbanzai the Southerner, Kyl is going to be there till the end of this session. He only agreed to fill the seat basically for the SCOTUS vote.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 08:52 PM (gNCcC)

318 253. Get real. Espy is a joke. Smith is a woman, no roy moore moment by the media

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 08:42 PM (l5hQl)
***************************

Dems are probably printing ballots and filling them out for the Nov. 27th. Mississippi Senate runoff.
Never underestimate the Dems.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2018 08:53 PM (hECVl)

319 Embrace the power of "and".

---

LOL. Exactly what i was going to write.

Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2018 08:53 PM (z1Dz9)

320 Anyhow, prominently displayed in the window was a promo poster for her book. You all want to see it right?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9j2glyn
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 08:52 PM (CDGwz)
++++++++++++
I wont "becoming" looking at Michelle...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 08:53 PM (hYcqw)

321 I used to go to cigar stores and pick up a few different ones but haven't done that in a long time. I'd have to smoke it outside anyway.

At one time I could sit on the couch with the dog and smoke a cigar and no one would complain.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 08:54 PM (UdKB7)

322 You all want to see it right?


That's a man, baby.

Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at November 12, 2018 08:55 PM (Tyii7)

323 Just cancel all further elections.

Declare an emergency or something...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 12, 2018 08:55 PM (EZebt)

324 Junior #282:
Napoleon essentially lost his entire army in Russia.

Chart of the Moscow Assault:
https://mindfulwebworker.files.wordpress.com/
2018/06/minard_lg.gif

Sorry for split link; too lazy to bit.ly

h/t: CBD
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=375826#c29044608

(my other people's stuff blog)
https://mindfulwebworker.wordpress.com/
2018/06/22/chart-of-the-moscow-assault/

Posted by: mindful webworker - not stolen... featured! at November 12, 2018 08:55 PM (kx5yx)

325 Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:45 PM (F/KeJ)



Kyl only agreed to serve until December (next month).

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at November 12, 2018 08:51 PM (l7Kbv)

Kyl agreed to serve until 2020.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:55 PM (F/KeJ)

326 Either there is no hope for America because people's brains have turned to shit, or it was outright voter fraud.

Which is it?

Posted by: Duncan Macleod
------------

It goes like this: Left->Academe->Media->Pop culture->Culture

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 08:56 PM (CDGwz)

327 286
Well Brexit was a kick in the nutsack, but it appears the British government is refusing to follow the will of the people.

I suspect there will be consequences.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (jZQUe)


Since self-defense is illegal in England, I don't know what consequences there can be.

The only ones who have to worry about consequences will be the first ones to stop applauding as Westminster Abbey is converted into a mosque.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 08:56 PM (sdi6R)

328

How does a hedge fund hustler who grew up in Michigan, ran a Boston
hedge fund that cheated millions out of millions, installed socialist
medicine in Mass., ran an amateur campaign for president, now in a real
position to derail and obstruct the MAGA agenda?


Easy: he's not on our side. He'll say he is, but when the time comes, he'll vote with the Dims.
Hide and watch. It's not like we don't remember his pathetic performance against the worst president our nation has ever had. If Mittens had had the beginnings of a pimple of a testicle, he'd have won easily.
But he's already got his fortune, the rest of us are up shit creek without a paddle. He could care less about the damage inflicted on us or how much we struggle because of his piss-poor decisions. He's an Elite.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 08:56 PM (HaL55)

329 I haven't noticed an actual tobacconist shop around in years.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:56 PM (NWiLs)

330 At one time I could sit on the couch with the dog and smoke a cigar and no one would complain.

==

Of course not - did you expect your non-smoking dog to complain about 2nd hand smoke ?

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 08:56 PM (bUjCl)

331 Kyl agreed to serve until 2020.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:55 PM (F/KeJ)

-----------------

This is what I thought too. The rest of McStain's term.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:57 PM (I16G8)

332 I for one welcome ournew liberated Corsicana overlords.

Posted by: Deacon Bleau at November 12, 2018 08:58 PM (yScAF)

333 I was in a Barnes & Noble a few weeks ago and they had multiple copies of that miserable agitprop masquerading as American history available. There have been at least three copies in every B&N I have ever visited for as long as I can remember.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (hYcqw)


Zinn's poxy book ~ Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 08:58 PM (YqDXo)

334
A thread on Napoleon from Animal Farm would be wonderful.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 12, 2018 08:58 PM (pNxlR)

335 Lord, she's ugly Hammer. If that is the best they could do, must be really bad up close and personal.


Meow. Been in bed sick/sleeping all day. This crap sucks.

Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2018 08:58 PM (2na8x)

336 This is what I thought too. The rest of McStain's term.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:57 PM (I16G

Apparently, there is a special election in 2020 to fill that seat

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:58 PM (F/KeJ)

337 Huh. Sinema is bisexual. Did not know that.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 12, 2018 08:59 PM (NtglE)

338 337 Huh. Sinema is bisexual. Did not know that.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 12, 2018 08:59 PM (NtglE)
=================================

And McSally is a lesbian. It was a bizarre race

Posted by: WIGOPer at November 12, 2018 09:00 PM (AQZqG)

339 'did you expect your non-smoking dog to complain about 2nd hand smoke ?'

I didn't complain about his farts so we were good.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 09:00 PM (UdKB7)

340 338 337 Huh. Sinema is bisexual. Did not know that.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 12, 2018 08:59 PM (NtglE)
=================================

And McSally is a lesbian. It was a bizarre race
Posted by: WIGOPer at November 12, 2018 09:00 PM (AQZqG)


Great.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 09:00 PM (YqDXo)

341 romney is our hillary. he has nowhere else to go so he ran for office. he's got nowhere else to go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g2JN2PrHJg

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2018 09:00 PM (MTjB1)

342 It would be really cool if somebody could help me with this question, instead of the same 6 f****** people arguing amongst themselves

I've been searching for an answer to this question for 2 days now.. was there ever a ballot total submitted prior to any recount starting?

if not, it doesn't f****** matter because without a reference point for the recount to be compared to they could lie as much as they want. Also when the hell do they count the 30,000 plus military ballots coming in? I'm so f****** livid about this

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 12, 2018 09:00 PM (aR6C/)

343 @275 Speaking of Russian land, does anyone know what happened to Uncle Palp?
----------------

No idea on Palp. But in the absence of his usual links to Slavic performers, here's a 6 year old Mongolian kid performing as a throat singer.

https://youtu.be/wVeVOiwLqL4

The show appears to be Chinese (though some of the text appears to include Japanese kana). The actual performance starts just after 1:45 and lasts for about three minutes.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 09:01 PM (S1hih)

344 24
Napoleon is much beloved in France. Still.

So you're saying they think he's ... dynamite.

(Swear to God, junior, I just scanned to the end to post that and there you are.)

Posted by: David Caruso at November 12, 2018 09:01 PM (v3UCk)

345 Nappy couldn't be happy, had to have Russia.

Posted by: MAGA at November 12, 2018 09:01 PM (hXzok)

346 Oh, by the way. Which one's pink?

Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at November 12, 2018 09:01 PM (Tyii7)

347 And McSally is a lesbian. It was a bizarre race
Posted by: WIGOPer


you are full of shit

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 09:02 PM (bUjCl)

348 There's the French idiomatic expression, "Lie like a bulletin" referring to the bulletins posted throughout the country by Napoleon's propaganda ministry.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2018 09:02 PM (Evws/)

349 @95

The transplanted Californians were probably nodding in ageeement with her.


We ain't voting our way out of our predicament.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 12, 2018 09:03 PM (qxq6t)

350 Speaking of Russian land, does anyone know what happened to Uncle Palp?

I hate when this kind of thing happens. I sure hope he's okay and is just taking a break.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 12, 2018 09:03 PM (dUJdY)

351 It would be really cool if somebody could help me with this question, instead of the same 6 f****** people arguing amongst themselves

Posted by: Getcha Pull


Oh, we're so sorry disappoint. There are complaint forms at the door.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 12, 2018 09:03 PM (pnMCv)

352 Mongolian music scene has this folk-rock-metal that is kinda ok.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (bUjCl)

353 Sinema is bisexual. Did not know that.
Posted by: IrishEi at N



not so much, she will just fuck anything.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (MTjB1)

354 @324 Chart of the Moscow Assault:
-------------

My parents have that chart hanging on their wall.

I think looking at that was what caused me to calculate the distance between London and Moscow, and compare it with the distance between Los Angeles and New York.

(hint: If you think marching from Paris to Moscow is bad, I don't suggest trying to take an army across the American Mid-West)

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (S1hih)

355 Anyhow, prominently displayed in the window was a promo poster for her book. You all want to see it right?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9j2glyn
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 08:52 PM (CDGwz)

===

Looks like a "Real Housewives of Chicago" send up.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (EZebt)

356 A non-Mercator Projection Russia is a bit less intimidating.

Posted by: klaftern at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (RuIsu)

357
Neil Young Blames 'So-Called President' Donald Trump After Losing His Home in the California Wildfires




I hope Neil Young will remember
He can go fuck himself and go back to Canada

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (SiINZ)

358 So. Any suggestions on current favorite cigars?

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 09:05 PM (UdKB7)

359 And McSally is a lesbian. It was a bizarre race
Posted by: WIGOPer
~~~~~

I haven't seen that anywhere. She was married to an Air Force guy at one point.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 12, 2018 09:05 PM (NtglE)

360 It would be really cool if somebody could help me
with this question, instead of the same 6 f****** people arguing amongst
themselves



I've been searching for an answer to this question for 2 days now..
was there ever a ballot total submitted prior to any recount starting?



if not, it doesn't f****** matter because without a reference point
for the recount to be compared to they could lie as much as they want.
Also when the hell do they count the 30,000 plus military ballots coming
in? I'm so f****** livid about this

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 12, 2018 09:00 PM (aR6C/)

Yes, the total at 12 noon on Saturday was the total minus military votes and other votes coming in from overseas which will be counted so long as they are postmarked on or before Nov. 6 and arrive not more than 10 days later.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 09:05 PM (F/KeJ)

361

Mongolian music scene has this folk-rock-metal that is kinda ok.

That little kid sounds like Froggy from the Little Rascals.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 09:05 PM (HaL55)

362 Kyl has never committed to serving until the special election in 2020, he only committed to finishing this session.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 09:05 PM (gNCcC)

363 @344 (Swear to God, junior, I just scanned to the end to post that and there you are.)
-----------

I'm a thread ninja.


Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 09:05 PM (S1hih)

364 Napoleon did not march from Paris to Moscow directly. He was taking detours.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 09:06 PM (bUjCl)

365 So. Any suggestions on current favorite cigars?


Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 09:05 PM (UdKB7)
\

The ones that don't smell like burning feathers. When you find them, tell me the brand.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2018 09:06 PM (mUa7G)

366 356 A non-Mercator Projection Russia is a bit less intimidating.
Posted by: klaftern at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (RuIsu)


But only a bit less. It's still the largest country in the world by area.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 09:06 PM (sdi6R)

367 I haven't noticed an actual tobacconist shop around in years.
Posted by: Insomniac
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Couple of blocks from here, with this sign in the window https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydcmmzfl

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 09:06 PM (CDGwz)

368 If you want them to count military ballots instead of feeding them to me, more people in the service need to vote Dem. Just sayin.

Posted by: Dumpster that eats military ballots at November 12, 2018 09:06 PM (cCxiu)

369 Taxes are too high here for Neil.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2018 09:07 PM (Evws/)

370 Neil Young Blames 'So-Called President' Donald Trump After Losing His Home in the California Wildfires

I hope Neil Young will remember
He can go fuck himself and go back to Canada
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (SiINZ)
++++++++++++++
Is this some bizarre global warming thing? Even if anthropogenic global warming were real, does he think either caused it or could have stopped in his whopping not quite two years in office?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:07 PM (hYcqw)

371 Cool thanks

Redbnzai

McBride

Jack straw.

You guys were cool.

I promote this blog at many other places I've gone to. Fuck I've even donated to this blog.

Cool

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 12, 2018 09:07 PM (aR6C/)

372 Yes, only Trump could break my heart. It helped that I was nuts right from the start.

Posted by: Neil (not so) Young at November 12, 2018 09:08 PM (Tyii7)

373 Neil Young Blames 'So-Called President' Donald Trump After Losing His Home in the California Wildfires

==

huh
Mitt had a cancer gun
Trump has an arson remote

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 09:08 PM (dMvl+)

374 @361 That little kid sounds like Froggy from the Little Rascals.
----------------

It's called throat singing. The sound comes from deep in your throat, and so isn't affected by the usual things that make your voice sound different. If you think watching him sing like that is weird, you should watch a pretty Mongolian woman singing and sounding exactly the same.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 09:08 PM (S1hih)

375 Mitt had a cancer gun
Trump has an arson remote
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 09:08 PM (dMvl+)
++++++++++++++
Dick Cheney had that hurricane machine.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (hYcqw)

376 Couple of blocks from here, with this sign in the window https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydcmmzfl
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 09:06 PM (CDGwz)

Nice.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (NWiLs)

377 'I hate when this kind of thing happens.'

I wonder too what happens to regulars who just disappear. Do they get burnt out, fed up, sick, arrested, deported, beamed up by aliens, or worse? Maybe they never existed, just some program on the Internet, created by some geek with too much time on it's hands, and one day the server crashes and there's no backup.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (UdKB7)

378 Dick Cheney had that hurricane machine.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (hYcqw)

Darth Cheney was a sekrit joo?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (dMvl+)

379 370 Neil Young Blames 'So-Called President' Donald Trump After Losing His Home in the California Wildfires

I hope Neil Young will remember
He can go fuck himself and go back to Canada
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (SiINZ)
++++++++++++++
Is this some bizarre global warming thing? Even if anthropogenic global warming were real, does he think either caused it or could have stopped in his whopping not quite two years in office?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:07 PM (hYcqw)


According to Jerry Brown, Trump is to blame for the wildfires because he's a climate denier and pulled out of the Paris Accords.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)

380


Neil Young Blames 'So-Called President' Donald Trump After Losing His Home in the California Wildfires


I'm sure he means, "one of his several homes."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 09:10 PM (HaL55)

381 If we enforce election laws, the terrorists have won.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2018 09:10 PM (98WNR)

382 377 'I hate when this kind of thing happens.'

I wonder too what happens to regulars who just disappear. Do they get burnt out, fed up, sick, arrested, deported, beamed up by aliens, or worse? Maybe they never existed, just some program on the Internet, created by some geek with too much time on it's hands, and one day the server crashes and there's no backup.
Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (UdKB7)

We're all just algorithms. Even you.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 09:10 PM (NWiLs)

383 Fire doesn't melt steel.

But 0.01 degF rise in average temperature over twenty years can light half the Sierras up like like a samovar in a Turgenyev story.

I fucking love Science!.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 09:10 PM (BRvh1)

384 Neil Young Blames 'So-Called President' Donald Trump After Losing His Home in the California Wildfires


I have heard stories about California wildfires EVERY FUCKING YEAR SINCE THE 1970s.

If that sop-headed canuck was fucking stupid enough to build his house in the California shithole, it's his own fucking fault.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2018 09:10 PM (oVJmc)

385 I haven't noticed an actual tobacconist shop around in years.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:56 PM (NWiLs)


There's a really good one here - cozy place, been around for 62 years in the same storefront on MAC avenue. I'm smoking some of the #6 medium English from there right now.

https://campbellssmokeshop.com/

Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 09:10 PM (t+qrx)

386 why do only republicans get all the cool toys?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2018 09:10 PM (KP5rU)

387 According to Jerry Brown, Trump is to blame for the wildfires because he's a climate denier and pulled out of the Paris Accords.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)


Why of course!!! That would have stopped the fires in their tracks

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2018 09:11 PM (SiINZ)

388 I wonder too what happens to regulars who just disappear.


We were talking about this on an ONT last week in re: Palp. Apparently no one knows him offline.

I've got a good number of offline relationships with Morons and I picked up a couple more in that thread. Someone should know how to reach you and report back to the Horde, so if you don't have friends start making some.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 09:11 PM (fuK7c)

389 Kyl agreed to serve until 2020.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:55 PM (F/KeJ)

-----------------

This is what I thought too. The rest of McStain's term.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:57 PM (I16G
************************************
Kyl at first said he was going to stay till before the next Congress was sworn in. So he must have changed his mind??
McCain won in 2016 so wouldn't that be 2022?
I'm Confused.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2018 09:11 PM (hECVl)

390 If "Global Warming" caused forest fires....

Why isn't 50% of the planet's non-liquid surface a roiling catastrophe of burning flora and fauna?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 09:12 PM (BRvh1)

391 Neil Young Blames 'So-Called President' Donald Trump After Losing His Home in the California Wildfires

I hope Neil Young will remember
He can go fuck himself and go back to Canada
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2018 09:04 PM (SiINZ)
++++++++++++++
Is this some bizarre global warming thing? Even if anthropogenic global warming were real, does he think either caused it or could have stopped in his whopping not quite two years in office?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:07 PM (hYcqw)

If California is going to refuse to do regular controlled burns, AND refuse to allow logging, they're going to have constant issues with fires.

I mean, we can just go back to the way it was before humans lived in California -- years of drought led to multi-year long forest fires that burned everything down except the strongest trees, then everything was good for a few years or decades until it repeated itself.

On a similar topic, they need to fucking improve their water infrastructure, too.

...But the environmentalists won't let them. So like primitive societies, they'll wave their fists in anger at the sky gods and curse the Orange Man.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 09:12 PM (GBteo)

392 According to Jerry Brown, Trump is to blame for the wildfires because he's a climate denier and pulled out of the Paris Accords.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)

According to me and logic, envirotards are to blame because they made controlled burns and the clearing of underbrush illegal.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 09:12 PM (F/KeJ)

393 @352 Mongolian music scene has this folk-rock-metal that is kinda ok.
-----------------

Reminds me...

Not Mongolian, but rock related...

Instapundit had a link today to an article about a guy living in Los Angeles who made up a band (basically himself, and some hired performers), and then made up the *entire* (fake) institutional support that a successful band would have, such as a booking agent, recording studio, etc... And then using all of that, he booked an entire European tour.

Only problem was, since the "band" didn't actually have any fans, the only people who showed up to watch them perform at the locations they've visited so far were the invited guests from the warm-up band.

The locales that booked him for his performances are understandably just a bit upset with him.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 09:12 PM (S1hih)

394 Nice.
Posted by: Insomniac
------

Very comfortable place. Scroll down for pic:
http://www.bbtobacconists.net/

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 09:12 PM (CDGwz)

395 Couple of blocks from here, with this sign in the window https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydcmmzfl

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 09:06 PM (CDGwz)


Man versus Vape?

That has my nomination for the funniest business name ever, BTW.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 12, 2018 09:12 PM (bZ7mE)

396 I haven't noticed an actual tobacconist shop around in years.

Ours was replaced by a Health Food Store.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (yQpMk)

397 387 According to Jerry Brown, Trump is to blame for the wildfires because he's a climate denier and pulled out of the Paris Accords.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)


Why of course!!! That would have stopped the fires in their tracks
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2018 09:11 PM (SiINZ)


Behold the awesome power of the global climate bureaucracy!

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

398 McSally concedes election. Link at Insty's!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (Evws/)

399 >>>Mitt had a cancer gun

Trump has an arson remote

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 09:08 PM (dMvl+)

++++++++++++++

Dick Cheney had that hurricane machine.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (hYcqw)<<<

Yeahhh... the Haliburton Hurricane Machine was not my most famous weapon of mass destruction

Posted by: Dick Cheney's Warcock at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (/SIwB)

400 Thanks Red..

I am hoping that there was some kind of official enforcing the vote finding be stopped. My fear is that they illegally gained 90k votes...if they have the knowledge that those votes were gained then there must be a solid ELECTION DAY number and not the votes counted all the way till Saturday..

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (aR6C/)

401 I haven't noticed an actual tobacconist shop around in years.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 08:56 PM

Peretti's in Boston. Old school. Love that place.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (DVvHX)

402 But 0.01 degF rise in average temperature over twenty years can light half the Sierras up like like a samovar in a Turgenyev story.

I fucking love Science!.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 09:10 PM (BRvh1)

It hasn't risen even that much. World-wide temperatures have actually fallen since the peak Gerbil Wormism scare of the 1990's. And the Sun is less active, too. Fancy that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (fDU8w)

403 There's a really good one here - cozy place, been around for 62 years in the same storefront on MAC avenue. I'm smoking some of the #6 medium English from there right now.

https://campbellssmokeshop.com/
Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 09:10 PM (t+qrx)

Cool. I love the way those places smell.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (NWiLs)

404 I'm not an expert, but I think throatsingers are probably witches. We should burn them just in case.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 12, 2018 09:14 PM (H5knJ)

405 The locales that booked him for his performances are understandably just a bit upset with him.


Sure

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 09:14 PM (bUjCl)

406 Kyl agreed to serve until 2020.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 08:55 PM (F/KeJ)

-----------------

This is what I thought too. The rest of McStain's term.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 08:57 PM (I16G
************************************
Kyl at first said he was going to stay till before the next Congress was sworn in. So he must have changed his mind??
McCain won in 2016 so wouldn't that be 2022?
I'm Confused.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2018 09:11 PM (hECVl)

-----------------

I just looked it up, and if Wiki is correct, he is out when the new Congress is seated in 1/19, not until 2020. I had it wrong.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 09:14 PM (I16G8)

407
Yeahhh... the Haliburton Hurricane Machine was not my most famous weapon of mass destruction

Posted by: Dick Cheney's Warcock at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (/SIwB)



Still waiting on your secret Halliburton army to take over the country and prevent the 2008 election. The left promised that would happen

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2018 09:14 PM (SiINZ)

408 According to Jerry Brown, Trump is to blame for the wildfires because he's a climate denier and pulled out of the Paris Accords.
Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)
++++++++++++
Is he getting away with that? Several years of a strapped forest service, large-scale failures at mitigation and many laws passed that hamper mitigation, and the abject lack of planning for and response to drought surely has *nothing* to do with this.

In CO, we were in a drought for the better part of a decade. Each year we saw new things being done about it - mitigation, controlled burns (usually, one big one went completely out of control, but they were usually successful), severe non-agricultural outdoor water use restrictions, ramping up on wildland firefighting capability, etc. It wasn't a picnic by any means and we had some brutal fires anyway but we didn't go around blaming the global warming boogeyman. The press and professors did, but the state forest service got down to business and the rural counties took some major actions on mitigation and clearing the decks to make it easier.

CA is a couple of years into its drought and they can't blame Trump for that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:15 PM (hYcqw)

409 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (fDU8w)

Heh. I just made up absurd numbers based on absolutely nothing... but, yeah.

Heh.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 09:16 PM (BRvh1)

410 'You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time"

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 09:16 PM (bUjCl)

411 So Macron stands up and says Nationalism is the opposite of Patriotism.


STFU until you pay your effing bills, deadbeat.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 09:16 PM (UsCnO)

412 'We're all just algorithms. Even you'

Funny. I don't look algorithmish.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 09:16 PM (UdKB7)

413 According to me and logic, envirotards are to blame because they made controlled burns and the clearing of underbrush illegal.

But we saved the snail darters.

Posted by: Neil (not so) Young at November 12, 2018 09:16 PM (Tyii7)

414

Instapundit had a link today to an article about a guy living in Los
Angeles who made up a band (basically himself, and some hired
performers), and then made up the *entire* (fake) institutional support
that a successful band would have, such as a booking agent, recording
studio, etc... And then using all of that, he booked an entire European
tour.



Only problem was, since the "band" didn't actually have any fans,
the only people who showed up to watch them perform at the locations
they've visited so far were the invited guests from the warm-up band.



The locales that booked him for his performances are understandably just a bit upset with him.


And we're sure that wasn't Neil Young?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 09:16 PM (HaL55)

415 *CANNOT

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 09:16 PM (bUjCl)

416 I've never been there, but there's a cigar store called The Smoking Dog in NJ that advertises on the Philly talk radio station.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 09:17 PM (sdi6R)

417 'We're all just algorithms. Even you'

Funny. I don't look algorithmish.
Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 09:16 PM (UdKB7)


I do.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 09:17 PM (t+qrx)

418 @408 CA is a couple of years into its drought and they can't blame Trump for that.
-----------------

California is wasting money on costly boondoggles like the high speed rail line, and can't afford to spend proper amounts of money on fire prevention. Further, the environmentalists here throw fits whenever any action is suggested to cut back the parts of the environment that make it easier to combat these fires.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 09:18 PM (S1hih)

419 19 of the 20 biggest fires in California since 1990.
Envirofascists got a foothold in the state in the 70's, gained control in the 80's, and hmmm what happens next??????? It's a riddle wrapped in an enigma for these geniuses.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 12, 2018 09:18 PM (FTPVM)

420 guy living in Los Angeles who made up a band (basically himself, and some hired performers), and then made up the *entire* (fake) institutional support that a successful band would have, such as a booking agent, recording studio, etc... And then using all of that, he booked an entire European tour.

Were they any good?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 12, 2018 09:18 PM (ykYG2)

421

I denied climate three times before the cock crowed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2018 09:18 PM (aKsyK)

422 The locales that booked him for his performances are understandably just a bit upset with him.
Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 09:12 PM (S1hih)

lmao! That's incredible!

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 12, 2018 09:18 PM (dUJdY)

423 Hey hogmartin, I left my bookmark at the office. Can you repost your handy link to the Pixy text sanitizer?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:19 PM (hYcqw)

424 The Dems are going to be sending out 100 subpoenas.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2018 09:19 PM (hECVl)

425 Thanks Red..



I am hoping that there was some kind of official enforcing the vote
finding be stopped. My fear is that they illegally gained 90k
votes...if they have the knowledge that those votes were gained then
there must be a solid ELECTION DAY number and not the votes counted all
the way till Saturday..

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (aR6C/)

They were supposed to report a preliminary total within 30 minutes of the polls closing (with the law allowing that total to be updated as absentee ballots and provisional ballots that were determined to be valid added in). Broward and Palm Beach did not report as required by law.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 09:19 PM (F/KeJ)

426


'You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people
some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the
time"


Hold my beer...

Signed,
Academia, filling skulls with Prog mush since 1960

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 09:19 PM (HaL55)

427 396 I haven't noticed an actual tobacconist shop around in years.

Ours was replaced by a Health Food Store.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2018 09:13 PM (yQpMk)

We have a fair number of cigar shops and cigar bars up here.

The cigar bars are a bit much for me -- 20 people in a small store ripping down cigars like it's going out of style. You can hardly see 10 feet in front of you.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (GBteo)

428 "... so the ones you can't fool get canal duty."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (BRvh1)

429 @420
Were they any good?
------------

Haven't listened to him myself, but the comments on the article suggested that he was so-so.

Posted by: junior at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (S1hih)

430 "McCain won in 2016 so wouldn't that be 2022?

I'm Confused."


The special election is for 2020, then another election in 2022. But as I keep saying, Kyl hasn't agreed to serve till even 2020, when he gave an interview I saw, he didn't seem like he wanted to.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (gNCcC)

431 359 And McSally is a lesbian. It was a bizarre race
Posted by: WIGOPer
~~~~~

I haven't seen that anywhere. She was married to an Air Force guy at one point.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 12, 2018 09:05 PM (NtglE)
-----------------------------------------------------------------It's been known to many in AZ for a long time. She got married in the "don't ask, don't tell" era and they never even lived under the same roof. They got divorced when the marriage was no longer necessary.

Posted by: WIGOPer at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (AQZqG)

432 The Dems are going to be sending out 100 subpoenas.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2018 09:19 PM (hECVl)

Bless their crazypants little hearts.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (F/KeJ)

433 Can you repost your handy link to the Pixy text sanitizer?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:19 PM (hYcqw)


Sure thing, boss.
https://stoatnet.org/ace/

Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (t+qrx)

434 Someone should know how to reach you and report back to the Horde, so if you don't have friends start making some.
Oh God I have enough trouble doing that in meatspace
(No, it's not because I use terms like "meatspace." I use terms like "meatspace" because, oh, just forget it.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (waFTo)

435 I've been throat singing for years.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (Tyii7)

436 I tell ya.. smoking a pipe was the biggest chick-magnet ever..
The loveliest women would come up to me.. "oooh.. that smells so wonderful" It was like having a cute dog or something..
I do miss it.. every once in a while I entertain the idea of picking it up again..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 12, 2018 09:21 PM (438dO)

437 419 19 of the 20 biggest fires in California since 1990.
Envirofascists got a foothold in the state in the 70's, gained control in the 80's, and hmmm what happens next??????? It's a riddle wrapped in an enigma for these geniuses.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 12, 2018 09:18 PM (FTPVM)

What was the big rallying cry again? The spotted owl or some shit? Owls hate controlled burns and logging or something?

Who can even remember the left's anger de jour from 30 years ago at this point?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 09:21 PM (GBteo)

438 Sure thing, boss.
https://stoatnet.org/ace/
Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (t+qrx)
++++++++++++++
Thanks a lot!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 09:21 PM (hYcqw)

439 To be fair, the US Forest Service and Cal Fire both acknowledge the problem is forest management.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 12, 2018 09:21 PM (FTPVM)

440 The special election is for 2020, then another
election in 2022. But as I keep saying, Kyl hasn't agreed to serve till
even 2020, when he gave an interview I saw, he didn't seem like he
wanted to.


Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (gNCcC)

He has not said he wouldn't serve til then. He just said he would not run for the seat in 2020.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 09:21 PM (F/KeJ)

441 Reminds me of the newsreader in the HBO series Rome. There's always a traitor, but the name changes from Caesar to Pompey to, eventually, Antony.

They've always been like this.

Search for Orwell, As I Please, Jan 19, 1945. The last section nails it. (Ace should quote it in a post.)

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 12, 2018 09:21 PM (59GGI)

442 WIGOPer is a gerbilsexual.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 12, 2018 09:22 PM (ykYG2)

443 439 To be fair, the US Forest Service and Cal Fire both acknowledge the problem is forest management.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 12, 2018 09:21 PM (FTPVM)

Yeah, what the hell do those idiots know about anything, though? Who elected them, amirite?

Posted by: Gov. Moonbeam at November 12, 2018 09:22 PM (BRvh1)

444 guy living in Los Angeles who made up a band (basically himself, and some hired performers), and then made up the *entire* (fake) institutional support that a successful band would have, such as a booking agent, recording studio, etc... And then using all of that, he booked an entire European tour.
--------

Were they at the Fyer Festival?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 09:22 PM (CDGwz)

445 nood, ace.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 09:22 PM (GBteo)

446 I'm not an expert, but I think throatsingers are probably witches. We should burn them just in case.

Addresses, we need addresses.

Posted by: Maryland State Police at November 12, 2018 09:22 PM (C78No)

447 I am sick of Fox. But I so wish someone would just put out weekly compilations of Mollie Hemingway's appearances, there and elsewhere.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 12, 2018 09:23 PM (59GGI)

448 Posted by: WIGOPer at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (AQZqG)

So you're claiming her husband was homosexual?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 12, 2018 09:23 PM (2DOZq)

449 The locales that booked him for his performances are understandably just a bit upset with him.
Haven't read it yet, but it sounds hilarious. Gotta be expensive for him, though-- I assume that the performer gets a cut of the ticket sales?
I guess it's almost like what vanity publishing used to be-- you'd order X copies of a book from a publisher, then you own them and it's up to you to sell them.
Only as a lark. If I'm understanding it correctly, which, well, the odds are not that great.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 12, 2018 09:24 PM (waFTo)

450 Reminds me of the newsreader in the HBO series Rome.


That was one of my favorite characters. I liked his hand motions and how he slipped effortlessly into a commercial.

"This month's public bread is provided by the Capitoline Brotherhood of Millers. The Brotherhood uses only the finest flour: true Roman bread for true Romans."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2018 09:24 PM (yQpMk)

451 To be fair, the US Forest Service and Cal Fire both acknowledge the problem is forest management.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 12, 2018 09:21 PM (FTPVM)

Well, that, and democrats. But mostly democrats.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2018 09:24 PM (fDU8w)

452 Look what the Press said about Lincoln.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 12, 2018 09:25 PM (2DOZq)

453 The special election is for 2020, then another
election in 2022. But as I keep saying, Kyl hasn't agreed to serve till
even 2020, when he gave an interview I saw, he didn't seem like he
wanted to.


Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (gNCcC)

He has not said he wouldn't serve til then. He just said he would not run for the seat in 2020.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 09:21 PM (F/KeJ)

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If Wiki is correct, he is gone this coming January.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 09:26 PM (I16G8)

454 "During Herod's stay in Rome, all mockery of Jews and their one God shall be kept to an appropriate minimum."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2018 09:26 PM (yQpMk)

455 448
So you're claiming her husband was homosexual?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 12, 2018 09:23 PM (2DOZq)


No, he was just a beard. A friend who helped her out so she could get promoted.

And I have read this elsewhere, not just from WIGOPer's posts.

Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

456 *waist high hand gesture*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2018 09:27 PM (yQpMk)

457 "He has not said he wouldn't serve til then."

You're right but he hasn't said he will serve until then. It doesn't sound like he wants to, he committed to serve until this session is over.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2018 09:27 PM (gNCcC)

458 "A train leaves Cleveland going 100 mile per hour...

Posted by: redbanzai
"

How many time will it circle the earth until the Browns next victory?

Posted by: Ripley at November 12, 2018 09:27 PM (NbRJx)

459 What pisses me off about McSally (and others) is that for once, where the GOPe nominated one of theirs, we were all falling in line to hold the 2 houses of congress. And so many of them lost anyway.

We might as well have held out for purity.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 12, 2018 09:28 PM (59GGI)

460 "From pliant virgins to learned greeks - Rufus has slaves for every budget."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2018 09:28 PM (yQpMk)

461 Rome was a great show

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 09:30 PM (dMvl+)

462 122---....Now the traitors have been flushed out. The ones running in 2020 will be for Trump.....

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 12, 2018 08:18 PM (cfSRQ)
--------------------------------
I don't know where you get the idea that all of the reps who either resigned or were defeated are "traitors."

Dave Brat? Please.

Bob Goodlatte? He's no fire-breather but his voting record has been very good over the years. Even if you dismiss him as a CoC-bot, what in the world makes you think his young replacement will be any better?

I certainly HOPE we'll have a more conservative GOP when it all washes out but....we'll see.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 12, 2018 09:30 PM (Rxduq)

463 Mark Antony paints his eyes with soot like a prostitute, worships dogs and reptiles, and dances in vile Nilotic rites.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 12, 2018 09:31 PM (59GGI)

464 nood

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 12, 2018 09:31 PM (dMvl+)

465 Able was I ere I saw Elba

Posted by: Napoleon Bonaparte at November 12, 2018 09:32 PM (yScAF)

466 Now I want a cigar. We should have a cigar thread.
Posted by: freaked at N



not much of a thread. like em. don't like em. done.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2018 08:51 PM

*****

Wow. Just tuned in and I read this.
How unfortunate.
It would be like a whiskey thread. And you know that would come up too.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2018 09:37 PM (0tfLf)

467 So Macron stands up and says Nationalism is the opposite of Patriotism.


Only problem was, since the "band" didn't actually have any fans,
the only people who showed up to watch them perform at the locations
they've visited so far were the invited guests from the warm-up band.


Go deep on this one. The cringe is strong.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2018 09:38 PM (oVJmc)

468 '>>>We're all just algorithms. Even you'



Funny. I don't look algorithmish.

Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 09:16 PM (UdKB7)



I do.





Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 09:17 PM (t+qrx)<<<

Wanna see my Algore rhythm?

Posted by: Algore and his chakra at November 12, 2018 09:40 PM (/SIwB)

469 Neil Young Blames 'So-Called President' Donald Trump After Losing His Home in the California Wildfires
--------------------------------
I don't get this.
If Trump is only the "so-called" POTUS, how can we blame him for anything politically? Shouldn't we blame the real POTUS?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 12, 2018 09:41 PM (Rxduq)

470 448 Posted by: WIGOPer at November 12, 2018 09:20 PM (AQZqG)

So you're claiming her husband was homosexual?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 12, 2018 09:23 PM (2DOZq)
----------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, just a friend helping her out.

Just saw on Twitter than the NRSC and Trump wanted McSally to go strong on the vote fraud theme and she refused.

She's getting the seat in January.

Posted by: WIGOPer at November 12, 2018 09:43 PM (AQZqG)

471 Ducey will not pick mcsally. She blew a easy race to a marxist. Jan brewer or matt salmon

Posted by: Jonah at November 12, 2018 09:49 PM (l5hQl)

472 I credit Napolean for initiating the Louisiana Purchase.


Well, yay for us. But how much long range thinking went into "what could the middle third of a continent with a huge navigable river ever be worth?"

He was broke on a war binge and not thinking straight.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 12, 2018 08:49 PM (fuK7c)

He was thinking perfectly straight.

Any possession outside of Europe was just free land for the British to take over once a war started with their navy. Getting anything for it from the US was just a bonus and kept it out of their hands.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 12, 2018 09:56 PM (FTPn0)

473 469
Neil Young Blames 'So-Called President' Donald Trump After Losing His Home in the California Wildfires"
If Young doesn't like our president, he is free to return to Canada. And he can take Jim Carrey with him.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at November 12, 2018 10:41 PM (d6Ksn)

474 This is what I don't get - I've known some professional actors. Mainly stage actors, although 2 of them got bit parts in films. They struck me as bright people. When you become a Hollywood star, does your IQ drop by 40 points? Is that the devil's deal an actor has to make to become famous?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at November 12, 2018 10:44 PM (d6Ksn)

475 Be well all, sore throat here, going to bed. I may annoy you later.

CaliGirl is fine, I emailed her. Anyone heard from UnclePalp?

Posted by: Farmer at November 15, 2018 09:47 PM (yJ1e6)

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