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Maryland Cops Descend on Man's Homes to Confiscate His Guns Under New "Red Flag" Law; When Man Scuffles to Keep Possession of Guns, He's Shot Dead
It seems like a member of his family filed the "red flag" complaint, so it's possible this guy was behaving strangely or threateningly enough to justify some kind of an intervention. He also seems to have opened the door with a gun in hand, which is legal, but also seems provocative. This doesn't bode well for "red flag" laws going forward.Two police officers ordered to remove firearms from a house on a "red flag" protective order fatally shot an armed man Monday morning in Ferndale, Maryland, police said. Anne Arundel County Police arrived at the house at 5:17 a.m. to remove guns from the home under a new law that temporarily allows for the seizure of firearms if a person shows "red flags" that they are a danger to themselves or others, CBS Baltimore reports. A man, later identified by police as 61-year-old Gary Willis, answered his door with a gun in his hand, Anne Arundel County Police Sgt. Jacklyn Davis said. Sgt. Davis said the man put the gun down. But then, according to a police press release, Willis "became irate" when officers attempted to serve the order. Willis picked the weapon up again, "a fight ensued over the gun," and a shot was fired, Davis said. The first shot didn't strike anyone, but the officers then fatally shot the man, Sgt. Davis said. Neither of the officers were injured. Their names weren't released. It wasn't clear why the "red flag" order was issued. A spokeswoman for the Maryland Judiciary denied a request from the Baltimore Sun to release protection order requests associated with the home, citing the law which states the orders are confidential unless a court rules otherwise. Michele Willis, the man's niece, told The Baltimore Sun that one of her aunts requested the protective order against Willis, but she declined to say why.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 05:52 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 05:52 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Aviator at November 12, 2018 05:52 PM (2cuLk)
Posted by: joeclark at November 12, 2018 05:53 PM (timOb)
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at November 12, 2018 05:53 PM (Z0/+C)
Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2018 05:53 PM (9t5k1)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 12, 2018 05:54 PM (bg8BQ)
Posted by: mikeyG at November 12, 2018 05:54 PM (LL1Be)
Forcible disarmament.
I would RATHER talk about the late Stan Lee but...ok.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 05:54 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: NativeNH at November 12, 2018 05:54 PM (dtRY5)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: navybrat, has no evidence that my bathroom scale is accurate at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (9t5k1)
Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (QMG5F)
Either someone has committed a crime or is not sound of mind - and they can be arrested or committed - or they haven't. Setting up a special parallel reporting and confiscation structure for what may not amount to more than gossip and butthurt is a terrible idea.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (eAshZ)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (T4oHT)
The po-po arrive at 5:17am and expect that he's not going to be startled?
Someone bangs on my door at that hour, I'm not thinking it's the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (eXA4G)
Or, maybe they really didn't like Uncle Bob and hoped to keep him away from the family at Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (BXMxN)
Posted by: IC at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (a0IVu)
He was depressed and suicidal, but he isn't anymore. They done shot him dead.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (xFmWK)
Posted by: Aviator at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (2cuLk)
And yeah, I'd be irate, too. Not that it matters ever since that tragic boating accident.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (U7k5w)
Yes, this is murder.
Executed by the State. No trial, of course. Trials are only for elitists and Democrats.
Expecting this to happen in WA state as well.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 05:57 PM (UsCnO)
Either someone has committed a crime or is not sound of mind - and they can be arrested or committed - or they haven't. Setting up a special parallel reporting and confiscation structure for what may not amount to more than gossip and butthurt is a terrible idea.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (eAshZ)
This is exactly what the Liberals want: Cops to come to your house and take your guns and kill you dead if you resist.
If Maryland doesn't have a sudden spate of lead poisoning of high officials, it deserves what it gets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 05:57 PM (bcbK8)
Che Guevara preferred to do his killing at night.
Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2018 05:57 PM (9t5k1)
Especially with DST.
Posted by: golfman at November 12, 2018 05:57 PM (If3tB)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 05:57 PM (BRvh1)
The Left knows it can count on their NPCs to call in their conservative acquaintances, even "friends" and relatives for the Cause.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 05:58 PM (AzW6q)
He was depressed and suicidal, but he isn't anymore. They done shot him dead.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (xFmWK)
++++++++++
Is the revision 2 of the Duluth Method?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 05:58 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: Ever at November 12, 2018 05:58 PM (QPeHQ)
Posted by: Hildabeast at November 12, 2018 05:58 PM (/ToRa)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 05:58 PM (p/8Bt)
do you have a link for the Chicago one ? I can't find it.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 05:58 PM (bUjCl)
And there are people that think that all guns are going to get confiscated.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (I16G
Yeah, like Tank Abrams totally doesn't actually want to confiscate AR-15's, but we need to "consider" it. Except for the ones her friends the Black Panthers carry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 05:58 PM (ptqGC)
What a truly stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 05:57 PM (BRvh1)
Only until the cops show up.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (bcbK8)
"Can you name any other civil right that you can lose with nothing more than a misdemeanor conviction?"
Crickets.
Now it appears that we don't even need that much; just an anonymous allegation that they can't discuss.
At some point this will stop. The only question is how many deaths it will take to do it.
Posted by: Gork at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (VmQ66)
Yes, the left totally won't abuse this system to deprive people of constitutional rights for political reasons.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (Z0/+C)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Ever at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (QPeHQ)
My parents can't fight this battle. My kids are working their asses off trying to pay the bills they inherited from us going $23 trillion in debt in less than two generations. Probably 80% of that since they were born.
Guys its on us to fix this.
Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (QMG5F)
when officers attempted to serve the order. Willis picked the weapon up
again, "a fight ensued over the gun," and a shot was fired, Davis said.
The first shot didn't strike anyone, but the officers then fatally shot
the man, Sgt. Davis said.
I'm unclear as to the nature of the problem. The man apparently had stability problems, meaning he had no business with a gun. If there are armed policemen around me, and they want to take my gun, I'll let them, and if their actions were wrong, I'll deal with it legally. Sounds like the cops had no choice.
Posted by: pep at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (BfOXk)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (mpXpK)
"Can you name any other civil right that you can lose with nothing more than a misdemeanor conviction?"
Crickets.
Now it appears that we don't even need that much; just an anonymous allegation that they can't discuss.
At some point this will stop. The only question is how many deaths it will take to do it.
Posted by: Gork at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (VmQ66)
Well the body count has begun.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (bcbK8)
Or, maybe they really didn't like Uncle Bob and hoped to keep him away from the family at Thanksgiving?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (ptqGC)
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Remember the autistic(?) teenager that was giving his parent trouble a few years ago? The police showed up, and were getting him calmed down and under control. They had him proned out and were sitting on him. Their supervisor showed up, said they didn't have time for that shit, and shot him dead thirty seconds later.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (xFmWK)
Posted by: (T)expat - East Texas Time at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (PGDRm)
Posted by: Ever at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (QPeHQ)
Yeah, Kemp resigned as SoS. Apparently it ain't over till the fat lady decides it's over.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (ptqGC)
oh and I just signed up this morning to be a lifetime NRA member ... only $600 and I get a jacket.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: mikeyG at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: Kreplach at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (qxq6t)
Posted by: zombie farfur mouse at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Roy at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (ABjxW)
Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (QMG5F)
Yep.
But voting won't do it.
Posted by: golfman at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (If3tB)
They just want to flat out kill us.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (U7k5w)
when officers attempted to serve the order. Willis picked the weapon up
again, "a fight ensued over the gun," and a shot was fired, Davis said.
The first shot didn't strike anyone, but the officers then fatally shot
the man, Sgt. Davis said.
I'm unclear as to the nature of the problem. The man apparently had stability problems, meaning he had no business with a gun. If there are armed policemen around me, and they want to take my gun, I'll let them, and if their actions were wrong, I'll deal with it legally. Sounds like the cops had no choice.
Posted by: pep at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (T6t7i)
You do you, pep.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (1g7ch)
At any moment in time, THEY could decide you are a threat and BAM! You're dead on your porch. With no questions asked.
Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (z1Dz9)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (T4oHT)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (mpXpK)
Agreed.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Redenzo at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (14qvS)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (gC2IV)
"In Asheville, North Carolina, the Gannett-affiliated Citizen Times gave wall-to-wall coverage to the city's version of Saturday's March For Our Lives. Somehow, though, the paper didn't find the time or energy for almost three weeks to report a March 7 comment by a Democratic candidate for county sheriff who told a Michael Bloomberg-funded "Moms Demand Action" group that prying guns out of owners' "cold dead hands" would be "okay." Finally, the paper noted the controversy on Tuesday — and came down on R. Daryl Fisher's side.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc43e778
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (HTHlp)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (cCxiu)
Now it appears that we don't even need that much; just an anonymous allegation that they can't discuss.
At some point this will stop. The only question is how many deaths it will take to do it.
Posted by: Gork at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (VmQ66)
Whose deaths, exactly? So far, this looks very one-way, the killing part, that is.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (UsCnO)
2) If you support Trump, you are a Nazi.
Posted by: The ARC of History at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (TEv5V)
Posted by: Michael Bloomberg at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (xWzjc)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (gC2IV)
Hey, it worked out for them. They get to go home.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 12, 2018 06:03 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Aeric at November 12, 2018 06:03 PM (ZbgGv)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2018 06:03 PM (BSvxR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (ptqGC)
Didn't like him, or his politics, or the fact that he had guns?
Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2018 06:03 PM (cxHbL)
What made you think 5 in the morning was a good idea to make a surprise call on someone who has been reported to be acting oddly and is known to have firearms.
Ever hear of approach slowly? Or perhaps talk to the guy AWAY from his house?
Instead they showed all the tact and planning of BATF at Waco.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 06:03 PM (5d8+l)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:03 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2018 06:03 PM (QMG5F)
2) If you support Trump, you are a Nazi.
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3) If you are not a rabid, prog Democrat, you are a Nazi.
FIFY
Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2018 06:04 PM (z1Dz9)
Too late for us. Our son loves to troll the family at Christmas, requested a grenade launcher for his AR last year.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 06:04 PM (ptqGC)
They are full of shit.
That's why part of me agrees with #BLM, if they would just stop villianizing whites and burning towns down.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2018 06:04 PM (jZQUe)
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at November 12, 2018 06:04 PM (Z0/+C)
The po-po arrive at 5:17am and expect that he's not going to be startled?
Someone bangs on my door at that hour, I'm not thinking it's the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (eXA4G)
They usually don't show up until 0700.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 06:04 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:04 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 06:03 PM (5d8+l)
pour encourages les autres...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 06:05 PM (BRvh1)
Horde I could use some prayers today, my Sister In Law was moved into Hospice, My Brother doesn't think she will last long,
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 12, 2018 06:03 PM (dKiJG)
That's tough, but hospice is a blessing. You have my prayers.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 06:05 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Maryland Cops at November 12, 2018 06:05 PM (iJaqf)
A man, later identified by police as 61-year-old Gary Willis, answered his door with a gun in his hand, Anne Arundel County Police Sgt. Jacklyn Davis said.
This is quite possibly a lie.
Who knows.
It's hard to trust The Law today.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at November 12, 2018 06:05 PM (Z9Slr)
According to my read of the bill here:
https://bit.ly/2RRaXmS
any joker can claim to be "dating" someone and say, "Yeah, they threatened to shoot me. They have guns in their house."
What's to stop that? The threat of perjury?
Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2018 06:05 PM (9qZ3S)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Cicero kaboom kid wants a bowl of menudo sunday morning at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (kkwkH)
Anyone who sends police to someone's house is setting in motion one of those two options, arrest or fucked up for resisting arrest.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (rGIJb)
Now it appears that we don't even need that much; just an anonymous allegation that they can't discuss.
At some point this will stop. The only question is how many deaths it will take to do it.
Posted by: Gork at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (VmQ66)
Well the body count has begun.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (bcbK
Let's Get it Started!
Posted by: Black Eyed Peas at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Gin Soaked Bar Room Queen at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (N/h+T)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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An unexpected knock on my door during hours of darkness, particularly the wee hours, would find me armed. Controlled response. If the 'visitors' were confirmed to be LEO, I would be cooperative, but *very* cautious prior to that.
Posted by: Expect the unexpected at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (EQ/NS)
A couple of them get wasted by trigger-happy statist enforcers, and watch those laws change, toot-sweet.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Gork at November 12, 2018 05:59 PM (VmQ66)
Whose deaths, exactly? So far, this looks very one-way, the killing part, that is.
I'm sure there will be some who will successfully shoot a police officer. This homeowner wasn't so fortunate, but the next case? Who knows?
Posted by: Gork at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (VmQ66)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (bUjCl)
5 AM? Way to think it through, flat feet.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (gC2IV)
I'm pretty sure they thought it through, and knew damned well what the likely outcome would be.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: The Left at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (TEv5V)
Posted by: Blago at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:04 PM (bUjCl)
Who precisely is going to stop it? This law was voted in by Marylanders, presumably this is what they want. Do you think the Feds will get involved, yank the cops, their D.O., their Police Chief into a federal lockup and charges proffered?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (bcbK8)
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Not to mention sending a SWAT team to disarm someone who may have a little paranoia going on may not be your best move.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (gC2IV)
Another Stalin tactic.
Declare your opponents insane.
Posted by: navybrat, has no evidence that my bathroom scale is accurate at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (eXA4G)
They wanted this guy's scalp as a warning shot for the rest of the plebes.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (HaL55)
Even the unarmed college student they were interviewing in his apartment after the Tsarnev Bombing Spree.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (xFmWK)
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We're way ahead of you.
Posted by: Facebook and Google, policing throught crimes at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (z1Dz9)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (KP5rU)
Now let's apply them to some of the other Amendments in the Bill of Rights.
Your sibling thinks you might have some weed in your house, so they tell the government. Ooops. No more Fourth Amendment protection for you. Some Maryland judge said so.
Your sibling thinks you might punch a government official if the government takes your property without compensating you? Tough day for you. No more Fifth Amendment rights. Some Hawaiian judge said so.
Posted by: Furious George at November 12, 2018 06:08 PM (9vQJW)
Isn't that an awkward way of saying "His sister sent him to happy fun camp because he owned guns"?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2018 06:08 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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An unexpected knock on my door during hours of darkness, particularly the wee hours, would find me armed. Controlled response. If the 'visitors' were confirmed to be LEO, I would be cooperative, but *very* cautious prior to that.
Posted by: Expect the unexpected at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (EQ/NS)
And if they show you an order to confiscate all your guns?
Going to go the 'pep' route and get disarmed and hope to get them back via lawsuit?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 06:08 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 06:08 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: JTB at November 12, 2018 06:08 PM (Hqml6)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (gC2IV)
Hey, it worked out for them. They get to go home.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (bcbK
And that's the only thing that matters.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 06:08 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 06:07 PM (bcbK
McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:08 PM (bUjCl)
But we'd be calling in a disproportionate amount of minorities households on the Red Flag law and see how the courts treat that.
Posted by: Blago at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (UfkIY)
Sgt. Davis said the man put the gun down. But then, according to a police press release, Willis "became irate" when officers attempted to serve the order. Willis picked the weapon up again, "a fight ensued over the gun," and a shot was fired, Davis said. The first shot didn't strike anyone, but...
Okay, now I know it's a Lie.
This is a bullshit story.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (Z9Slr)
Then if he cannot be trusted with a gun, he should not be on the street. Period.
Posted by: Cicero kaboom kid wants a bowl of menudo sunday morning at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (kkwkH)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (gC2IV)
Same thought here. If someone were pounding on my door at 5 AM, and I had a gun at home, I go to the door with it myself. Just in case.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (YqDXo)
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To save you, we had to destroy you.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Roy at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (ABjxW)
Declare your opponents insane.
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That can go both ways.
Conservative and republican? Insane and must be shot for the good of the community
Muslim rapist and murderer? Insane and must be set free for the sake of diversity.
Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (z1Dz9)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (rGIJb)
This is my big, throbbing hot button.
I've said my piece, be well, all of you.
Buy ammo.
Decide what you're willing to die for.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, yea Nationalism at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (T4oHT)
Yep. I've always wondered precisely how the gun confiscators intended to have this work - whether they truly were going to have the cops go door to door.
Obviously, they are going to do it incrementally, but yes, they are going to send the cops going door to door to confiscate guns.
Posted by: The ARC of History at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (TEv5V)
Going to go the 'pep' route and get disarmed and hope to get them back via lawsuit?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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It happened to an acquaintance of mine. Angry Ex. He did get his guns back.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (CDGwz)
Anybody, anywhere see anything about whether they captured this on body cam?
Posted by: Fustigator at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (+0mVj)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (bim/x)
White, obviously. Or there'd be news reports of rioting in Ferndale MD right now.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (YqDXo)
Had something like this several years ago in Santa Clarita / Stevenson Ranch, crook posing as a LEO, Feds got involved, got a local sheriff to go with them to the guy's door instead of scooping up the culprit on his daily walks with his phony police dog, ended up in a shootout, dead sheriff, standoff, burned house dead culprit. Complete clusterf*ck. Over and over.
Posted by: rayra at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (Pgsaa)
Even actual experts (like the Batman shooter case, Aurora, CO) ... are afraid to report real cases, for fear of law suits (iirc). But the answer is not to put that authority in the hands of a relative that may have other motives, unless there is some other step to be taken (like a professional consult?)
Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (NWiLs)
What made you think 5 in the morning was a good idea to make a surprise call on someone who has been reported to be acting oddly and is known to have firearms.
Ever hear of approach slowly? Or perhaps talk to the guy AWAY from his house?
Instead they showed all the tact and planning of BATF at Waco.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR)
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My experience is law enforcement wants a confrontation and likes to blow up small situations into something where guns get to be drawn.
Posted by: Blago at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: The NKVD at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (TEv5V)
This is how it happens. Bit by bit.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (bUjCl)
"Slowly at first, then all at once".
Posted by: E. Hemmingway at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (UsCnO)
They'll protect those dems until the checks bounce.
Posted by: DanMan at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (QMG5F)
Obviously, they are going to do it incrementally, but yes, they are going to send the cops going door to door to confiscate guns.
Posted by: The ARC of History at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (TEv5V)
Might I suggest that they start on MLK Blvd.?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (YqDXo)
Anyone who sends police to someone's house is setting in motion one of those two options, arrest or fucked up for resisting arrest.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 12, 2018 06:06 PM (rGIJb)
Perhaps you could send that memo to Gov Rick Scott.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (p/8Bt)
Isn't there a huge due process problem with these "red flag" warnings?
If the cops are going to deprive someone of a
constitutionally-guaranteed right, doesn't there need to be some pretty
rigorous due process and the like? Or I am still living in The Before
Times? "
Beyond the due process issues, it's worse than non gun-owners really understand. Generally speaking, what happens in most areas when your stuff is confiscated is that it's piled into a rubbermaid bin, driven to an evidence room, tagged/processed, then thrown loose into racks or even dumped in 55 gallon drums with dozens of other firearms.
They typically get beat all to shit. You're lucky if they don't actually electro-pencil inventory numbers right into the metal. Climate control in some facilities ranges from bad to nonexistent; you can expect anything that can rust to do so.
Basically, if your shit gets taken, it doesn't matter if you get it back; it's usually ruined. And that's assuming you DO even get it back; most major cities have agencies who have a habit of "losing" extremely valuable arms.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (eAshZ)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (H5knJ)
It's because the guy didn't parrot "orange man bad" when the woman prompted him. She (or any leftist) couldn't have hoped for a more delightful result.
Posted by: hagbag at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (2u8LP)
Posted by: The 1980 World Book Encyclopedia at November 12, 2018 06:12 PM (oVJmc)
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He put one of those "cold dead hands" stickers on his car
Posted by: Total Control Racist at November 12, 2018 06:12 PM (z2W2E)
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They have an ax?! CONDITION RED!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2018 06:12 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2018 06:12 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:12 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:12 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2018 06:12 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (B9BVe)
local sheriff to go with them to the guy's door instead of scooping up
the culprit on his daily walks with his phony police dog, ended up in a
shootout, dead sheriff, standoff, burned house dead culprit. Complete
clusterf*ck. Over and over.
Posted by: rayra at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (Pgsaa)
Sounds like the Florida elections.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2018 06:04 PM (jZQUe)
The local Minneapolis and Saint Paul BLM were doing great until the idiots started blocking I-94 with their protests.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (xFmWK)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (KP5rU)
NewMath.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 12, 2018 06:01 PM (LL1Be)
That will go down as epic.
Just like " You can keep your doctor."
Posted by: golfman at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (If3tB)
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (eAshZ)
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This is a factor, too, yeah. Alas, the property damage and organized larceny of "evidence" is beside the point.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (YqDXo)
No brother that's dangerous. They are going to start with you.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (p/8Bt)
Here's what really happened:
Okay, so he did comply with the police. And then when the police tried to steal his property, he took hold of his property, while standing inside his own home.
The police then tried to remove the citizen's property, with force, from his grip. The weapon fired, but it's a mystery as to who squeezed the trigger.
The police got spooked and used that as an excuse to pump lead into the citizen.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (Z9Slr)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at November 12, 2018 06:14 PM (PvCxa)
Posted by: Bruce at November 12, 2018 06:14 PM (8ikIW)
This won't be abused by man hating wives/girlfriends and their family
and friends to attack men at all. Nope don't see this happening at all.
/sarc "
It's going to be harder and harder for those people to find suckers to support them
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 06:14 PM (eAshZ)
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Same with the ATF.
Posted by: Mrs. Randy Weaver and Child at November 12, 2018 06:14 PM (xSo9G)
A The action failed to ensure law and order.
B. The NOPD refused to return the firearms until the NRA sued.
C. When the guns were handed back, many had become rusted junk.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 12, 2018 06:15 PM (5d8+l)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:12 PM (AzW6q)
I lost my appetite over this I'm so shocked that females are using the state to attack males. /sarc
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:15 PM (B9BVe)
Another way to look at it,... the smart people want the right to deny a man his right to bear arms *on the possibility* he will do something illegal.
But these same smart people think preventing a woman from aborting a baby is too much an infringement on her "right" to privacy. But the child is near certain to become a human.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 12, 2018 06:15 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (KP5rU)
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The military-grade weapons and other toys, unquestioned fawning adoration and the concomitant delusions of granduer. If I had to guess.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:15 PM (I2dne)
You miss the point, Comrade. We don't want to disarm the gangbangers - after all, they are a key part of our political base.
We want to disarm those disgusting conservative white people.
Most states have considerable criminal penalties for felons caught with a firearm - if we really cared about criminals possessing guns, we could prosecute them with no plea bargainings.
The point of these laws is to disarm the law-abiding - they are the real threat to us, after all.
Posted by: The NKVD at November 12, 2018 06:15 PM (TEv5V)
We are way past substantive due process.
This is administrative due process at best and is completely and totally unconstitutional vis-a-vis the 2nd and 4th amendments.
This is intolerable.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (qxq6t)
Posted by: Runway Hitchhiker at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (vtd+q)
Legislators, parolees, and probationers in that order that's who.
Start with city councils and "alder creatures" as they say in Chicago.
132 Really would like to see a full bodycam recording of that encounter and whether the shooting was justified....because frankly I am not sure I believe them to correctly recap how it went down.
Anybody, anywhere see anything about whether they captured this on body cam?
Posted by: Fustigator at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (+0mVj
Posted by: 80's music fan at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (tQkRb)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (T4oHT)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:13 PM (I2dne)
Tell that to the guys with 6-figure collections, though. Stomping into someone's house, stealing $150k worth of things they've spend a lifetime acquiring, and then destroying them through sheer malice/stupidity/apathy is why people start welding steel plates to bulldozers.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (eAshZ)
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Reason 1, 234,476 not to stick it in cray cray. Yet it happens every day...sigh...
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (bUjCl)
From the law:
a judge may enter a temporary extreme risk protective order to prohibit the respondent from possessing a firearm if the judge finds that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the respondent poses an immediate and present danger of causing personal injury to the respondent, the petitioner,
or another by possessing a firearm.
So MD gun owners are relying on judges to be reasonable. I'm sure THAT'll never be abused.
"I find there is compelling evidence that owning a firearm has been proven to increase the chance of one being shot in their own home. Petition granted!"
Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (9qZ3S)
Uh... yeah... someone beating on my door then and I'd probably answer with a gun in hand as well.
Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (NgKpN)
He was depressed and suicidal, but he isn't anymore. They done shot him dead.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (xFmWK)
++++++++++
Is the revision 2 of the Duluth Method?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 05:58 PM (I2dne)
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Duluth Method?
It was the Minneapolis PD. They said the man had a knife. Supposedly this time their body cameras were running, unlike when the shot Justine Damond.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (xFmWK)
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (ffWPP)
I'll ask an indelicate question> Was Gary Willis white or black?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (bim/x)
I couldn't care less. It's irrelevant.
He wasn't convicted in any court of law, only an allegation from some anonymous source. The police won't even reveal the nature of the "red flag" allegation. This is complete, unaccountable theft by the state and a violation of civil rights.
This is bad enough that it ought to end some careers. Someone needs to be reminded of what the Constitution, that same Constitution they took an oath to defend, says.
Posted by: Gork at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (VmQ66)
Yep. I've always wondered precisely how the gun confiscators intended
to have this work - whether they truly were going to have the cops go
door to door.
Obviously, they are going to do it incrementally, but yes, they are
going to send the cops going door to door to confiscate guns.
Posted by: The ARC of History at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (TEv5V)
Might I suggest that they start on MLK Blvd.?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 06:11 PM (YqDXo)
With half of CNN and MSNBC running live feed cameras as the police take civil rights from dindu nuffins?
C'mon Jay, stick to killing white men at 5am in their own houses. It is at least realistic.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (B9BVe)
Since it's not the lead story on CNN right now, we can be pretty certain of what his race was.
Posted by: hagbag at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (2u8LP)
Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (9rIkM)
Posted by: chavez the hugo
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Ours not only has four stars, but is a 'married' Les. I mean, that's an authority figure.
Posted by: Expect the unexpected at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (oSGpk)
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (eAshZ)
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Oh, absolutely. I am not being trite or brushing off that aspect. But that aspect would be a non-issue if these cases didn't happen - if they weren't running roughshod over the 2nd and 4th amendments with this kind of brazenly illegal bullshit.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (I2dne)
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That'd never happen!
Looters Dressed As Forest Service Workers [in California] . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Liberty at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (5DsK4)
LOL. Do you really think we will use this law against our political allies, Comrade?
Call all you want - we will do nothing.
Posted by: The NKVD at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (TEv5V)
Posted by: rammajamma at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (xceTB)
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:15 PM (B9BVe)
Like the stat that women are more likely than men to have someone NOT not give them CPR when they are laying there dying. It could be the fear of being blamed for sexual groping. Or, it could also be someone saying "Thank God the woman finally shut the f*ck up"
Posted by: Roy at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (ABjxW)
completely unnecessary. Double time is insured if shift starts before 6:00AM, so 5:00AM is perfect starting time. The ideal tradeoff between fascism, and not having to get up too early, while still insuring maximum paycheck.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (LWu6U)
This is administrative due process at best and is completely and totally unconstitutional vis-a-vis the 2nd and 4th amendments.
This is intolerable.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 12, 2018 06:16 PM (qxq6t)
Within a year we will see LOTS of Veterans getting their guns taken away in California.
Bank on it.
Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 12, 2018 06:19 PM (NgKpN)
A belligerent pounding on the door in the dark of night, depending on the neighborhood ...
Encyclopedia salesmen, nothing more.
Posted by: Dis Lexic, Dark Walker at November 12, 2018 06:19 PM (hrcfq)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 12, 2018 06:19 PM (cYGoa)
He was depressed and suicidal, but he isn't anymore. They done shot him dead.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (xFmWK)
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Is the revision 2 of the Duluth Method?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 05:58 PM (I2dne)
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Duluth Method?
It was the Minneapolis PD. They said the man had a knife. Supposedly this time their body cameras were running, unlike when the shot Justine Damond.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (xFmWK)
Duluth Model 2: Dead Men Bugaloo
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:19 PM (B9BVe)
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I'll ask an indelicate question> Was Gary Willis white or black?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (bim/x)
I couldn't care less. It's irrelevant.
To US, that is ALL that matters. And the white guy is thankfully dead.
Posted by: ABCBSNBCNNNYTIMESWAPOST at November 12, 2018 06:19 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 12, 2018 06:09 PM (rGIJb)
The same law needs to be for an illegal or Muslim that gets released also.
Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2018 06:19 PM (kiSdp)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:12 PM (AzW6q)
#BelieveAllWomen
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (/qEW2)
It was the Minneapolis PD. They said the man had a knife. Supposedly this time their body cameras were running, unlike when the shot Justine Damond.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (xFmWK)
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The Duluth Method is completely debunked but still mostly active bullshit policy of "police must make an arrest when called for domestic violence." It was a bad study when they piloted it in Duluth and it spread like a cancer from there, resulting a lot of arrests for DV that should never have been made.
My comment was trite and sarcastic and I should have tagged it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: Liberty at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (5DsK4)
As I think about it, I have said too much here, possibly. Maybe NSA Bob would care to opine????
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (ffWPP)
make no mistake:
There is a reason i try to always refer to these people as Barbarians.
They have no interest in civilization. In building. In creating. In respecting and admiring what others have created. In finding tolerable, if not optimal, solutions to societal frictions.
No.
They wish only to destroy. War, death, decay, entropy. A blind, evil, reckless will to destroy, and pat themselves on the back while doing so.
They are the embodiment of the worst Nihilistic excesses of the French Romanticists, coupled with a bloodless, soulless ennui.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (BRvh1)
I had hoped the election of PDT would stop the Leftward Lurch in our country. Instead, it's getting worse.
Silly me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2018 06:21 PM (DCYln)
Trump has exacerbated the contradictions.
A lot of masks are coming off.
Posted by: The NKVD at November 12, 2018 06:21 PM (TEv5V)
I don't answer the door.
Posted by: Joe Mama at November 12, 2018 06:21 PM (36CSS)
I had hoped the election of PDT would stop the Leftward Lurch in our country. Instead, it's getting worse.
Silly me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (HaL55)
Hillary's lurch would have been exponential.
Posted by: Roy at November 12, 2018 06:22 PM (ABjxW)
As I think about it, I have said too much here, possibly. Maybe NSA Bob would care to opine????
No. I'm good.
Posted by: NSA Bob at November 12, 2018 06:22 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (Cus5s)
Pam Bondi is a traitor as well. Fuck her. Send her to Sweden.
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:22 PM (B9BVe)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (NWiLs)
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The best part? She did this repeatedly. She also told local police that he was stalking - again, disproven by testimony from her own friend. So she told police he threatened to kill and dismember her, at which point they just stopped believing her at all, and threatened to have her arrested for false reporting.
But, her daddy was a wealthy hedge-fund guy, so that went... nowhere.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:22 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Cap'n Eddy at November 12, 2018 06:22 PM (pnMCv)
People voted against making gay marriage legal in California and a judge ruled that was unconstitutional. This law couldn't possibly stand up in court.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 12, 2018 06:22 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (ffWPP)
Lets see.... last THREE times the Police have come to my door, in uniform..
They knocked, loudly, but did NOT announce themselves as Police.
Luckily, I have a window from the front of the house where I can see the front door (its in a courtyard).
Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 12, 2018 06:22 PM (NgKpN)
Bank on it.
Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 12, 2018 06:19 PM (NgKpN)
Big Sis/Uncle Janet Napolitano warned everyone that the greatest threat in the US was returning war veterans.
Thanks, Obama, you commie tool bag.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Joe Mama at November 12, 2018 06:23 PM (36CSS)
CNN Commentator: 'Fox New jerks the president off every single day'
DailyWire via whatfinger
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 06:23 PM (p/8Bt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2018 06:02 PM (bim/x)
White, obviously. Or there'd be news reports of rioting in Ferndale MD right now.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2018 06:10 PM (YqDXo)
Well maybe, maybe not...This is left wing ideology that got him killed ( he did not help himself) but if he is black, would the left demonstrate since it was their law that got him killed? It was a serious question
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2018 06:24 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (BRvh1) "
Funny, that. Me too!
They're the same ones cheering on Operation Chokepoint and getting excited every time they read about the PRC's social credit scores.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 06:24 PM (eAshZ)
Posted by: Elementary Ed at November 12, 2018 06:24 PM (DCYln)
CNN Commentator: 'Fox New jerks the president off every single day'
DailyWire via whatfinger
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 06:23 PM (p/8Bt)
I "Believe" it was on her blog and not on live TV...Just saying
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2018 06:24 PM (bim/x)
Posted by: chavez the hugo
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Ours not only has four stars, but is a 'married' Les. I mean, that's an authority figure.
Posted by: Expect the unexpected at November 12, 2018 06:18 PM (oSGpk)
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Some of their uniforms look like they belong on a banana republic dictator.
Then again , these police commanders are usually in Democrat Hell Hole big cities, so the Banana Republic vibe is accurate.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:24 PM (xFmWK)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:25 PM (bUjCl)
I don't answer the door.
Posted by: Joe Mama at November 12, 2018 06:21 PM (36CSS)
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The Popo have a nasty habit of not taking no for an answer. I'd be willing to bet they went there so early because they knew he would be home.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 06:25 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:24 PM (xFmWK)
More of a Banana City-State, but point taken.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 06:25 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:25 PM (ffWPP)
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:24 PM (xFmWK)
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Kill a guy for being a gun owner: OK.
Arrest an Antifa member for assaulting someone or burning something: NOT OK.
Yeah, these cities are Banana Republics.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:26 PM (AzW6q)
This is going to make things far worse. Who is going to confide in family members or seek help now if they're having problems?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 12, 2018 06:26 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 06:26 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2018 06:27 PM (JFO2v)
Well maybe, maybe not...This is left wing ideology that got him killed (
he did not help himself) but if he is black, would the left demonstrate
since it was their law that got him killed? It was a serious question
I'm pretty sure that Soros' Rent-A-Mob don't care as long as their checks clear.
"What are you protesting?"
"I don't know, whadda you got?"
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 06:27 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:27 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Joe Mama at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (36CSS)
That's another problem with "communism in theory is great, we'll do it right". The more power cops/authorities are given, the more incentive for abuse. The assumption that "we're from the government and we're here to help" is not just wrong because of incompetence, but there is the great incentive for bad guys to infiltrate government.
imo, that's what communism really is, organized crime with a government kicker.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:25 PM (bUjCl)
+++++++++
It's usually a fancy single or double quote. One of the last lines of the stack (the red text) will tell you the character (like u201
, which you can then look up on teh google ("unicode 2018") and find out what the character is and then go hunt it down.Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (I2dne)
Who am I to disagree
Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused.
Posted by: Dis Lexic, Dark Walker at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (hrcfq)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic
I hope the other family members sue the shit out of the bitch who asked for the order.
Watch it come out that she was actually listed in his will.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (pnMCv)
The Popo have a nasty habit of not taking no for an answer. I'd be willing to bet they went there so early because they knew he would be home.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 06:25 PM (I16G
They do it on purpose because the wee hours are when peoples reaction time is the slowest.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: socalcon at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (Roy2Z)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:25 PM (bUjCl)
Just post the words.
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (B9BVe)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 12, 2018 06:26 PM (TAmPV)
Family Members?
Bwwwaahahahaha!!!!
Surely you jest, plebe.
You're supposed to confide in the local administrative sub-unit's State Emotional Health Councilor. Or their deputy, if you can't afford the five year wait-list.
What does your stupid peasant family know about anything? We've got trained professionals! Experts! And it's FREE!!!!!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (BRvh1)
Arrest an Antifa member for assaulting someone or burning something: NOT OK.
Yeah, these cities are Banana Republics.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:26 PM (AzW6q)
spot on Mate!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2018 06:28 PM (JFO2v)
Where was this? Oh, Maryland. Huh.
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A white 60+ year old man living alone in Maryland, minding his own business in his own home.
WTF was he thinking? That's suicide by cop.
Posted by: ABCBSNBCNNNYTIMESWAPOST at November 12, 2018 06:29 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 06:29 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2018 06:29 PM (DCYln)
Posted by: rayj at November 12, 2018 06:30 PM (pI/IV)
Posted by: JoeBiden at November 12, 2018 06:30 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:25 PM (bUjCl)
https://stoatnet.org/ace/
Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 06:30 PM (t+qrx)
Am I correct in understanding that Kemp has over 50%. The announced remaining votes to be counted was not enough to pierce this 50% even if the democrat got every single one. Yet, the democrat refused to concede...and lo and behold, a brand new massive batch of votes showed up out of the blue that could pierce that 50%. Does that sum it up?
Posted by: Orson at November 12, 2018 06:30 PM (zab2o)
Posted by: Flatland farmer at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (EwbI5)
Posted by: rayj at November 12, 2018 06:30 PM (pI/IV)
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It will be very interesting to see what happens when CO implements registration.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (I2dne)
Arrest an Antifa member for assaulting someone or burning something: NOT OK.
Democrats openly stealing Federal elections and Democrat authorities and Democrat judges let it happen:
PRICELESS!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:25 PM (bUjCl)
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Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (p/8Bt)
I'd have rather the Pittsburgh PD confiscated the synagogue shooter's weapon rather than have those people die. And the idiot sheriff knew that the Parkland shooter was ill and that he had actually held a gun to his mom's head, yet he had his weapons. Sounds like grounds for confiscation.
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (T4oHT)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (bUjCl)
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Yeah, it's a good thing those nasty quotes are quarantined.
Posted by: socalcon at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (Roy2Z)
Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (schB/)
What the hell?
I got to get out of this fucked up State.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu in Baltimore at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (aqpW6)
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: socalcon at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (Roy2Z)
Btw, 5am? That s#it has to stop.
Posted by: TonicDog at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (ORv7Y)
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (ffWPP)
So basically, a "Red Flag" will be issued against any registered gun owner.
Posted by: rayj at November 12, 2018 06:30 PM (pI/IV)
yes, but don't expect anything from the Left except maybe a pat on the head and a couple of Snickers bars.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (UsCnO)
So basically, a "Red Flag" will be issued against any registered gun owner.
Posted by: rayj at November 12, 2018 06:30 PM (pI/IV)
Yep. Key word is "registered"
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (B9BVe)
WTF was he thinking? That's suicide by cop.
Unarmed- and announced to the world as unarmed-, alone, near Baltimore, Maryland? That's what he was thinking.
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (OiC69)
And remember, kids, you can now turn in your parents if they're mean to you. Just tell us at school.
As opposed to the Juvenile Court Judge I went to to see if I had any legal recourse for the physical and mental abuse I received at home from my alcoholic/schizophrenic mother.
He said, "Sorry, there's nothing we can do. You're just going to have to live with it."
I didn't think to ask His Honor if assault and battery was OK if
your parent does it. But I was young, stupid and pretty much beaten down at the time.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (HaL55)
I had hoped the election of PDT would stop the Leftward Lurch in our country. Instead, it's getting worse.
Just wait until 2021.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2018 06:33 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (bUjCl)
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Try out hogmartin's link:
https://stoatnet.org/ace/
Thanks, hog! Bookmarked.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:33 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:33 PM (bUjCl)
Take the camera out of one gimbal and duct tape a sub-compact pistol to it.
Problem solved. And for much cheaper than an alligator pit under a trap-door.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 12, 2018 06:33 PM (BRvh1)
Got a warrant?
No?
Come back when you have one.
Have a nice day.
(spoken through intercom)
The problem is that there WAS A warrant. A warrant issued because the Judge was empowered through a very unconstitutional law. When that Judge goes up for re-election, I think people ought to be reminded of what that Warrant looked like.
Posted by: Gork at November 12, 2018 06:33 PM (VmQ66)
Confiscation of INNOCENT LIFE with no due process.
Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (schB/)
FIFY.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Zaklog the Great at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (+ibSA)
Posted by: Brenda Snipes at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (OiC69)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (p/8Bt)
https://pteo.paranoiaworks.mobi/diacriticsremover/
Or you can replace hyphens, quote marks, and apostrophes. That usually does the trick for me.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (9qZ3S)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (bUjCl)
I'd have rather the Pittsburgh PD confiscated the synagogue shooter's weapon rather than have those people die. And the idiot sheriff knew that the Parkland shooter was ill and that he had actually held a gun to his mom's head, yet he had his weapons. Sounds like grounds for confiscation.
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2018 06:31 PM (U7k5w)
OH.... you want to confiscate this? well here...
/BLAM BLAM BLAM...
Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (NgKpN)
It was the Minneapolis PD. They said the man had a knife. Supposedly this time their body cameras were running, unlike when the shot Justine Damond.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:17 PM (xFmWK)
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The Duluth Method is completely debunked but still mostly active bullshit policy of "police must make an arrest when called for domestic violence." It was a bad study when they piloted it in Duluth and it spread like a cancer from there, resulting a lot of arrests for DV that should never have been made.
My comment was trite and sarcastic and I should have tagged it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:20 PM (I2dne)
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Duluth is a good Democrat City. The last time they lynched a black man was 1921.
Sounds like something they would do. How many times did they arrest the woman?
The latest police flap in Minneapolis Minnesota was the police were asking the EMTs to sedate difficult arrestees with Ketamine. Should be a few multi-million dollar payouts.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (xFmWK)
Am I correct in understanding that Kemp has over 50%. The announced remaining votes to be counted was not enough to pierce this 50% even if the democrat got every single one. Yet, the democrat refused to concede...and lo and behold, a brand new massive batch of votes showed up out of the blue that could pierce that 50%. Does that sum it up?
Posted by: Orson at November 12, 2018 06:30 PM (zab2o)
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If one possible interpretation is "The Democratz are trying to steal the election", then go with that one
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu in Baltimore at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (aqpW6)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:27 PM (bUjCl)
Here's the thing - it can. Crazy bitches often do an amazing job concealing that they're crazy bitches until they've got you hooked.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (H5knJ)
Michelle Obama is kicking off the publicity tour for her new book, "Becoming," but her first media appearance got off to a rocky start.
Despite being heavily edited so she spoke for little more than 45 seconds, Michelle Obama sounded more like a millennial girl chatting on Snapchat than a former First Lady. Throughout her responses to ABC's Robin Roberts, she repeatedly said "like," "you know?" "um," and even, "dude."
"Barack Obama has always walked like Barack Obama, like, he has got all the time in the world," she said of their first meeting. "He had that stride. I was, like, 'Dude, you're cute,' but in my mind, I was, like --"
Overall Obama said "you know" 10 times, "like" 9 times, and "um," "yeah," and "what?" another five times.
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Hey, ABC, there a saying about sows' ears and silk purses.
Incidentally, in an hour special about Mooch's new book, Mooch spoke for 45 seconds?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Orson at November 12, 2018 06:30 PM (zab2o)
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Close, but not quite. Kemp is still over 50%, and Abrams has been filing Federal lawsuits to get votes from illegals counted, votes from those who voted in the wrong county. The suits will go nowhere, and she actually lost about 10k votes in Fulton county because they were duplicates or from illegals.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (I16G8)
Not ha ha funny just funny.
Posted by: freaked at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (+fPHo)
Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (schB/)
They already take citizens children and the Left, center, and TruCons said and did nothing. They rest is gravy for the state to execute in own eyes.
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (B9BVe)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (bUjCl)
You know who you are. Gun owner in VA or MA or WA. You believe you have a right to live they believe you have a right to die.
Those men and wymen driving bumber stickered Subs and Prius would have you killed and laugh about it.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (JFO2v)
The latest police flap in Minneapolis Minnesota was the police were asking the EMTs to sedate difficult arrestees with Ketamine. Should be a few multi-million dollar payouts.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (xFmWK)
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Virtually never. After all, women are not violent and the two parties in a DV are only very very very rarely engaged in mutual combat.
/sarc
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (I2dne)
CNN political commentator Tara Setmayer on one of her recent podcasts: "Fox News jerks the President off every single day. It is political masturbation on that channel. That's right. I said it."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (aKsyK)
this is difficult.
my father killed himself. gunshot wound to the head.
he drove around town with my kids in the car and a loaded handgun in the glove box.
he was depressed. an alcoholic and the only grandparent my kids ever had.
I wish I had the option of having someone else determine if he was of sound mind enough to own a firearm. sorry guys, sometimes, you need help, and I couldn't take it from him.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Joe Biden (I tied my own shoes this morning!) at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (LWu6U)
* really happened back in the 90s.
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2018 06:37 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:37 PM (ffWPP)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 06:37 PM (p/8Bt)
yeah, they *wanted* an excuse to blow him away...
this is utter and complete BULLSHIT!
the cops should go on trial for murder, with their supervisors, the judge and the aunt as accomplices and co-conspirators.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2018 06:37 PM (Dagiw)
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (FhXTo)
This would not please the Babylonian gods and goddesses.
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:37 PM (B9BVe)
her recent podcasts: "Fox News jerks the President off every single day.
It is political masturbation on that channel. That's right. I said it."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (aKsyK)
And she's a Republican NeverTrumper. So there's that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 06:37 PM (ptqGC)
Airtight logic will be brought to bear, I predict.
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2018 06:37 PM (CE5C/)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (d7Ww2)
That is a hard situation to be in, for you and your kids. I wish there were easy answers and solutions.
Posted by: IC at November 12, 2018 06:38 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (NWiLs)
If a person cannot see that level of crazy, he is a poor judge of character or is purposely lying to himself.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:38 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:38 PM (ffWPP)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2018 06:08 PM (1g7ch)
My guess is there's a lot of family shit that they don't want to get into with reporters.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 12, 2018 06:38 PM (SgjGX)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (bUjCl)
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So you're exempt if you're a tranny or "non-binary" or whatever. Good to know.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2018 06:38 PM (I2dne)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:27 PM (bUjCl)
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Oh, he did... all of this happened after he broke up with her.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:39 PM (bvAwo)
Posted by: Maryland LEOs at November 12, 2018 06:39 PM (Z9C5C)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2018 06:36 PM (d7Ww2)
Sorry to hear that, but if he didn't have a gun he would have used a car or a knife or something.
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:39 PM (B9BVe)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 12, 2018 06:26 PM (TAmPV) "
Honestly, people should have stopped doing that years ago, between the electronic medical records mandate and political polarization in general.
Thought experiment: let us say we're going to take you and zap you back in time to 1935. In Spain, or the USSR, or Germany. Are you going to "confide in family members" who might not like you or like your political leanings? Are you going to go shrinks and tell them anything that can be used against you?
Hell no, you aren't. You'd have to be out of your mind.
People need to start getting serious about this stuff. Consider what is going to go down if things get out of hand. This has happened before - we know what sort of things to expect. The time to start edging away from risky family members, acquaintances, and other individuals was years ago.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 06:39 PM (eAshZ)
Posted by: Runway Hitchhiker at November 12, 2018 06:39 PM (vtd+q)
Hubby and I are toying with moving to MT. Eventually it will fall to the progs as well. Hopefully I'll be dead by then or drooling into a spit bucket and won't care.
There are close to 800, 000 people in the metro Dayton area and a bit over a million in all of MT. I'll take my chances with the weather and the critters in western MT.
Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 12, 2018 06:39 PM (N3JsI)
Posted by: the . at November 12, 2018 06:39 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2018 06:32 PM (schB/)
GOPe got caught up in anti drug! Who the fuck cares who kills themselves? Taking money to militarize cops is just a great way to kill more people. I love cops but if you are a cops dressed like a soldier you need to go to boss and ask for new assignment.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2018 06:39 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:39 PM (B9BVe)
it was his fourth attempt. all different strategies.
I'm blessed he didn't take my kids out with him, or anyone else for that matter.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2018 06:40 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 12, 2018 06:40 PM (bQtop)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (NWiLs)
If a person cannot see that level of crazy, he is a poor judge of character or is purposely lying to himself.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:38 PM (bUjCl)
That level of crazy is very very good at convincing and manipulating others that the sky is pink if they wanted to, and they do. There are men who can do the same thing. Fucking Cluster B's...
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:41 PM (B9BVe)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2018 06:41 PM (8B+eN)
votes from illegals counted, votes from those who voted in the wrong
county. The suits will go nowhere, and she actually lost about 10k votes
in Fulton county because they were duplicates or from illegals.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 06:35 PM (I16G
If it walks like a Democrat, talks like a Democrat, and steals votes like a Democrat, then yes, it is a criminal.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 06:42 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 12, 2018 06:40 PM (bQtop)
Make it safe for democracy??? Win hearts and minds????
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:42 PM (ffWPP)
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:41 PM (B9BVe)
dude, how's things ?
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:42 PM (bUjCl)
People are strange.
Posted by: Dis Lexic, Dark Walker at November 12, 2018 06:42 PM (hrcfq)
We cannot drill out way out
We cannot grow our way out
Bhussein hates US and us!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2018 06:42 PM (JFO2v)
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Well, yeah, forest fires will do that. It's all the fire that makes thing hot.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2018 06:42 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2018 06:43 PM (8B+eN)
She seems nice.
Posted by: Jewells45 at November 12, 2018 06:43 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Mara Liasson at November 12, 2018 06:43 PM (aKsyK)
What if that person is crazy themself hmmm?
Posted by: the . at November 12, 2018 06:43 PM (UdKB7)
Light.
The cockroaches were always there.
Now everyone can see them.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 12, 2018 06:43 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:38 PM (bUjCl) "
An important experience when I was younger was watching a friend acquire a girlfriend, get married. Then she tried to off him and went batshit.
She was always batshit - it's just that she pretended she wasn't and was nice to everyone. The instant she walked down that aisle, though, the mask was off. The warning signs were few and slight to the rest of us, but it helped teach us what to look for.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 12, 2018 06:43 PM (eAshZ)
my father killed himself. gunshot wound to the head.
That sucks, nurse ratched. My dad just pulled the car over some place deserted and stuck a hosepipe from the exhaust into the passenger compartment...
...two months before I was born. Way to send a message there, Dad.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 06:44 PM (HaL55)
In earlier reports, Hamas claimed that the building was "a hotel".
Posted by: The ARC of History at November 12, 2018 06:44 PM (TEv5V)
here in Lost Angels, the cops will literally steal all your magazines and attached accessories, and your ammo. they will also file charges on any and everything they can, valid or not.
they will treat even the most valuable pieces like shit, and, *IF* you ever get them back, you will be lucky if they are even usable, and not rusted out junk.
and you will have NO recourse.
F that shit.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2018 06:44 PM (Dagiw)
Posted by: Eighty Years Ago, Exactly at November 12, 2018 06:44 PM (nIvDu)
Because Fire Chiefs have Science credentials and shit.
STFU and feed the Dalmation, asshole.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2018 06:45 PM (8B+eN)
Posted by: the . at November 12, 2018 06:43 PM (UdKB7)
Then like is attracted to like
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:45 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 06:45 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 06:44 PM (HaL55)
OH man
I'm so sorry.Posted by: Jewells45 at November 12, 2018 06:45 PM (dUJdY)
In earlier reports, Hamas claimed that the building was "a hotel".
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Heartbreak Hotel?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2018 06:45 PM (+y/Ru)
Do they charge for this service or is it free?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, dogs, coffee and my 12 gauge say at November 12, 2018 06:45 PM (Z216Q)
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Whoa?! She tried to kill him? That's not very wifely of her.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:46 PM (bvAwo)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:46 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:42 PM (bUjCl)
Really really good. Dude, got his original girlfriend back. I haven't been this happy and healthy since I was 13.
And you?
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:46 PM (B9BVe)
And she's a Republican NeverTrumper. So there's that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2018 06:37 PM (
And a few months ago she used to substitute host for Andrew Willcow's show on Sirius Patriot. Bet he regrets that.
Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2018 06:46 PM (kiSdp)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 06:46 PM (T4oHT)
Always making trouble. Fuck those guys.
Posted by: the .
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It's the full-auto semicolons that are the most dangerous.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 06:46 PM (xSo9G)
>>In earlier reports, Hamas claimed that the building was "a hotel".
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Heartbreak Hotel?
You can check out anytime you like...
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2018 06:46 PM (8B+eN)
YOU are CRAZY
KNOCK! KNOCK! KNOCK!
*BAM* *BAM*
-signed,
your friendly Maryland police (or from any Leftist city)
Rights? Damn, that's funny. 'Cept I ain't laughing.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2018 06:47 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2018 06:47 PM (JFO2v)
Do they charge for this service or is it free?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, dogs, coffee and my 12 gauge say at November 12, 2018 06:45 PM (Z216Q)
Well, the lawyerly answer is that if the cops show up at your house demanding your guns, hand them over and fight it in court.
But the practical answer is that x% of the population will not want to hand over their guns, and ... well, here we are.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 06:47 PM (GBteo)
It is political masturbation on that channel. That's right. I said it."
I'll take Barack " what enchants you , Mr. President? " Obama for 1000, Alex.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 12, 2018 06:47 PM (LL1Be)
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2018 06:48 PM (hECVl)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:48 PM (bUjCl)
OK. Gotcha.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2018 06:48 PM (8B+eN)
and you will have NO recourse.
F that shit.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2018 06:44 PM (Dagiw)
I know, I know, it sucks.
But things are just things, your life is more valuable then your AR-15 magazines.
Oh, also, California.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 06:49 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: The ARC of History
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It's the 'Aspirin Factory' gambit.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 06:49 PM (xSo9G)
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:49 PM (ffWPP)
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2018 06:44 PM (Dagiw)
I think thats because detachable magazines are illegal there.
Posted by: Runway Hitchhiker at November 12, 2018 06:49 PM (vtd+q)
CNN political commentator Tara Setmayer on one of her recent podcasts:
"Fox News jerks the President off every single day. It is political
masturbation on that channel. That's right. I said it."
Bitch will not swallow. But she brags she does. What to do?
Posted by: Blitzed Wolfer at November 12, 2018 06:50 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:48 PM (bUjCl)
No worries, just promise to use it only for good and also for evil.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 06:50 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 12, 2018 06:40 PM
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Make it safe for democracy??? Win hearts and minds????
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:42 PM
For the kids, of course.
It's too late for the goats.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 12, 2018 06:50 PM (DMUuz)
OK. Gotcha.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2018 06:48 PM (8B+eN)
You apparently have not been paying attention to the Left for awhile.
They are going after Free Speech as well.
Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 12, 2018 06:50 PM (NgKpN)
Let me see if I've got this right because I've never heard of the "Red Flag" laws before.
The government has NO PROBABLE CAUSE to believe you have committed a crime for which you can be compulsorily arrested.
Nonetheless, the government can suspend one of your Civil Rights (mortal self protection through use of arms) ... just because.
So Red Flag laws can basically cancel your Civil Rights without any probable cause that you have committed a crime????
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!
UNCONSTITUTIONAL FUCKIN' ____BULLSHIT!!!____
Posted by: Cold Civil War at November 12, 2018 06:50 PM (Z2PYk)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 06:46 PM (T4oHT)
Unless today we say no more! No more McCain No more Romney. No more Rubio.
Huck all of you! I will never ever cross the isle! Never ever!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 12, 2018 06:50 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Sixkiller at November 12, 2018 06:50 PM (PvD5F)
CNN political commentator Tara Setmayer...
Yet another "Republican" I never heard of who Fake News seems to find and use as a Republican.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at November 12, 2018 06:51 PM (Z9Slr)
Mostly just the Porn.
But, occasionally they'll take the Highlights home for their kids.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2018 06:51 PM (8B+eN)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'git yer new ballots here!' at November 12, 2018 06:51 PM (+6jVU)
Or, even on on the books firearms elsewhere.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 12, 2018 06:51 PM (WEBkv)
If they show up to ask some questions, and you don't draw on them, then you're fine and the subject of guns needn't even come up.
QED.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:52 PM (bvAwo)
And you?
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:46 PM (B9BVe)
Me ? Happy for you! Good thing no one got entangled with some strange person, for no good reason, huh ?
Never know what's around the corner, better to do the right things now, not to regret later. (end of lecture)Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:52 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 06:52 PM (p/8Bt)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2018 06:52 PM (d7Ww2)
Thanks, Jewells.
Yeah, when I say I wasn't planned or wanted, that's what I mean.
Also, I have a couple of questions for St. Peter before he sends me to Hell. Just one or two. Nothing important or anything...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 06:52 PM (HaL55)
Right now my house has several exterior lights (floods and sconce).
With brighter LEDs running at about 10% the wattage I can add 10x as many, 150 security lights, with any panel changes.
Cops say you should have good exterior to discourage the perps.
I think 150, half covering doors, the rest perimeter should be discouraging.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2018 06:53 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Fritz at November 12, 2018 06:53 PM (Z9C5C)
For some reason we cannot keep people in mental health hospitals but we can kill them if they have guns.
#LeftyLogic
Posted by: Nom de Blog at November 12, 2018 06:53 PM (wFDuq)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 06:53 PM (T4oHT)
Posted by: Jean at November 12, 2018 06:53 PM (sFO1P)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, dogs and my 12 gauge say at November 12, 2018 06:53 PM (Z216Q)
Posted by: hogmartin at November 12, 2018 06:50 PM (t+qrx)
HAHAHAH..oh, of course, always
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:53 PM (bUjCl)
If they show up to ask some questions, and you don't draw on them, then you're fine and the subject of guns needn't even come up.
QED.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2018 06:52 PM (bvAwo)
Right. We have processes for handling criminals, and we have processed for handling people going through mental health crisis's.
...Why exactly do we need a process for someone who is not quite crazy enough to involuntarily commit, hasnt committed a crime worthy of arrest, but needs their 2A rights suspended after an ex parte hearing and no due process?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2018 06:54 PM (GBteo)
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2018 06:54 PM (Z4rgH)
Come see Gaza's many wonderful tourist attractions!
Posted by: Gaza Tourism Authority at November 12, 2018 06:54 PM (TEv5V)
You don't say.
Posted by: alexander iii at November 12, 2018 06:55 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Runway Hitchhiker at November 12, 2018 06:49 PM (vtd+q)
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Garands are exempt, for obvious reasons. M1A's are also, I believe.
Which is cool, because Springfield Armory has the SoCom which looks pretty cool.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 12, 2018 06:55 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 06:55 PM (T4oHT)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 12, 2018 06:55 PM (tSXzq)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2018 06:55 PM (oVJmc)
new way for family political disagreements to be settled (like swating) red flag and get the disagreeable one killed.
Posted by: texas 32 moron at November 12, 2018 06:55 PM (Wa5hI)
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:55 PM (ffWPP)
Seriously? You're like the only person around here who can just go over to the pantry, grab a couple, and do bodyweight exercises.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 12, 2018 06:55 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, dogs and my 12 gauge say at November 12, 2018 06:56 PM (Z216Q)
Posted by: Hobbiehawk at November 12, 2018 06:56 PM (Qot/z)
Or, even on on the books firearms elsewhere.
Posted by: Blake
My kin all keep a gun or two buried in the woods. Nothing spectacular, just an old 30-06 or 30-30; in PVC pipe packed in crease.
Posted by: Jean at November 12, 2018 06:57 PM (sFO1P)
shouldn't not live like that....
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:57 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 06:57 PM (p/8Bt)
apparently had stability problems, meaning he had no business with a
gun. If there are armed policemen around me, and they want to take my
gun, I'll let them, and if their actions were wrong, I'll deal with it
legally. Sounds like the cops had no choice.
Posted by: pep at November 12, 2018 06:00 PM (T6t7i)
You notice the article did not say that the guy fired any shots... likely because he didn't. Also, just... wow. If you are unclear as to the nature of the problem with killing someone when they object to you coming into their home to rob them of their constitutional rights, YOU are the problem.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 06:57 PM (F/KeJ)
Just like the Michael Brown and Travon incidents, right?
right?
and the reporters are live right now, hating on the police, right?
Posted by: next to last American fool that thinks there is a single standard of justice any more at November 12, 2018 06:57 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Jean
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Curiously, they did the same thing at Waco. Could have grabbed David Koresh anywhere, anytime they wanted. But, no, 76 men, women, and children died.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 06:57 PM (CDGwz)
This got me thinking about home security.
.............
A week ago I just got new motion detector flood lights for my garage and parking area. Cost only about $50 at Home Cheapo.
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2018 06:58 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, dogs and my 12 gauge say I'm ready at November 12, 2018 06:58 PM (Z216Q)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 12, 2018 06:58 PM (bQtop)
Posted by: TonicDog at November 12, 2018 06:58 PM (gWaRo)
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2018 06:59 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: kraken at November 12, 2018 06:59 PM (ffWPP)
Posted by: Jean
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Curiously, they did the same thing at Waco. Could have grabbed David Koresh anywhere, anytime they wanted. But, no, 76 men, women, and children died.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Also could have grabbed Randy Weaver at almost any time. I suppose it was more fun killing his wife and infant child.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 06:59 PM (CDGwz)
I hear Joe Biden has a shotgun and has been acting kinda fruity lately.
I love the smell of your hair, little lady.
Posted by: creepy Joe at November 12, 2018 06:59 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Les Kinetic
Another way of saying the authorities executed a search warrant is they tore the place the fuck up.
Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at November 12, 2018 07:00 PM (SuHoh)
Hey, Cannibal Bob, a few days ago you were kvetching when a spontaneous
Gainzzz! thread broke out, after you'd decided not to go to the gym.
Seriously? You're like the only person around here who can just go
over to the pantry, grab a couple, and do bodyweight exercises.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 12, 2018 06:55 PM (DMUuz)
LOL! first Duncan I love those Joo words that i herd in NY growing up. friend little brother (like 2nd grade) ran around the house calling everyone a shmuck. too funny.
And, true but I have to wear mittens. I keep them in the freezer. Getting low btw, May have to have chicken...wait for it...it tastes like human.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'git yer new ballots here!' at November 12, 2018 07:00 PM (+6jVU)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, dogs and my 12 gauge say I'm ready at November 12, 2018 07:00 PM (Z216Q)
They are going after Free Speech as well.
Posted by: Don Quixotic... at November 12, 2018 06:50 PM (NgKpN)
I think it was Breyer who on an interview about a year said 'free speech' needs to be reduced with the intent of going after the NRA to make it easier eliminate the 2nd Ad.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2018 07:01 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2018 06:34 PM (NWiLs)
If a person cannot see that level of crazy, he is a poor judge of character or is purposely lying to himself.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2018 06:38 PM (bUjCl)
That level of crazy is very very good at convincing and manipulating others that the sky is pink if they wanted to, and they do. There are men who can do the same thing. Fucking Cluster B's...
Posted by: literally serious at November 12, 2018 06:41 PM (B9BVe)
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Sometimes normal people will develop schizophrenia suddenly between their teens and thirties. It is both a real physical and mental illness.
Sometimes it happens when they hit fifty in our family?
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 07:01 PM (xFmWK)
Judges of course will be inclined to rubber stamp these red flag orders because if they don't and the guy in questioned actually ends up shooting someone that'll be bad publicity for them
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 12, 2018 07:01 PM (TAmPV)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, dogs and my 12 gauge say I'm ready at November 12, 2018 06:58 PM (Z216Q)
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Say, could you move to the left a bit as you are stashing your guns? The guys have a bet on as to the movie poster on the wall, Some say "Barbarella" and the others say "10,000 Years BC."
Thanks.
Posted by: Fred at NSA at November 12, 2018 07:01 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 12, 2018 07:01 PM (I16G8)
Stop laughing.
Seriously. Aren't these laws ripe for evisceration by SCOTUS, if they will take a case and Roberts doesn't feel like doing his Sotomayor imitation that day?
Posted by: Rhomboid at November 12, 2018 07:02 PM (L5WdC)
Old guy doesn't know who's at his door in the wee hours... gets his gun. (Sensible.)
Sees that it's cops. Sets the gun down to talk to them because it's not a robber or crazy person.
They "serve" the order and say they're taking his gun.
He moves to secure his property.
He and one cop scuffle and the gun goes off.
Other cop hears gun-shot and reacts.
I'd read an account where the niece said he wouldn't hurt a fly and well, her aunt, that was family being family.
I wouldn't assume for even the *barest* moment that the aunt was justified.
Posted by: Julie A Pascal at November 12, 2018 07:02 PM (BD/yx)
have grabbed David Koresh anywhere, anytime they wanted. But, no, 76
men, women, and children died.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 06:57 PM (CDGwz)
They were all white. What's your point? Never mind, it doesn't matter, because you are probably white, too.
Posted by: Stacey Abrams at November 12, 2018 07:02 PM (UsCnO)
Actor Gerard Butler lost his Malibu home in a raging wildfire last weekend, but leftists are having a tough time empathizing with the "300" star because he's an unabashed supporter of the State of Israel.
Butler posted a photo of the charred remains of his house on both Twitter and Instagram.
But his tweet, which thanked first responders for doing the best they could to save his home and for evacuating his neighborhood, wasn't met with the typical outpouring of support seen for celebrity victims of national tragedies. Instead, leftists and anti-Semites responded to Butler's tweet with a barrage of hate, all because the actor has given money to support the Israeli Defense Forces.
Many called Butler's misfortune "karma," and mocked the actor with claims that he was merely experiencing what Palestinians experience every day.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2018 07:03 PM (aKsyK)
apparently had stability problems, meaning he had no business with a
gun. If there are armed policemen around me, and they want to take my
gun, I'll let them, and if their actions were wrong, I'll deal with it
legally. Sounds like the cops had no choice.
Posted by: pep
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5:00 a.m. unannounced raid? Because that's what it was, whether they rang the doorbell or not.
I'm assuming that they could have picked the guy up whenever, wherever they wished.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 07:03 PM (CDGwz)
God Bless you and keep you in the palm of His hand.
I'm sorry.
Thanks, nurse ratched.
The same to you, too.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 12, 2018 07:03 PM (HaL55)
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This got me thinking about home security.
.............
A week ago I just got new motion detector flood lights for my garage and parking area. Cost only about $50 at Home Cheapo.
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2018 06:58 PM (HgMAr)
yeah. security doors going on the front door and garage side door. Guys been casing the neighborhood saying they want to do an efficiency study for new windows.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'git yer new ballots here!' at November 12, 2018 07:03 PM (+6jVU)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
'Dont' want a ISIS repeat' is the best answer you're going to get.
It's all shit-sucking GOPe explanations after that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 12, 2018 07:03 PM (pnMCv)
Much fun was had by all and, bonus, the gals/wives made sammiches!
The men of this family are spoiled and we darn well know it.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at November 12, 2018 07:04 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Jewells45 at November 12, 2018 07:04 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2018 07:05 PM (OiC69)
And then he fought him for the gun; I understand it was probably instinctual, but good grief, how is this any different than any other case where a "suspect" has a gun? Again, I think these red flag laws are bullshit, not even going to defend that part, but he was armed and the cops don't know wtf is up.
I'll say the same thing I say in all these cases: I'm siding with the cops til I hear differently. Why should they wait til he shoots them?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 12, 2018 07:05 PM (90KoH)
Posted by: Jean
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Curiously, they did the same thing at Waco. Could have grabbed David Koresh anywhere, anytime they wanted. But, no, 76 men, women, and children died.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Also could have grabbed Randy Weaver at almost any time. I suppose it was more fun killing his wife and infant child.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 06:59 PM (CDGwz)
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They needed to "get something" on Weaver so they could squeeze him and make him inform on some Neo-nazi folks in the area. People that Weaver never met or associated with.
They "accidentally" sent him the wrong court hearing date, so he was "guilty of not appearing in court."
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 07:06 PM (xFmWK)
Posted by: Stacey Abrams at November 12, 2018 07:02 PM (UsCnO)
Wrong again, Stacey.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2018 07:07 PM (p/8Bt)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2018 05:55 PM (T4oHT)
Which will be all of them in less than 20 years.
Posted by: rickl at November 12, 2018 07:08 PM (sdi6R)
was probably instinctual, but good grief, how is this any different than
any other case where a "suspect" has a gun? Again, I think these red
flag laws are bullshit, not even going to defend that part, but he was
armed and the cops don't know wtf is up.
I'll say the same thing I say in all these cases: I'm siding with
the cops til I hear differently. Why should they wait til he shoots
them?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 12, 2018 07:05 PM (90KoH)
Why should they be there at all? And I differentiate this situation from one where there is a suspect in that this guy had done exactly nothing wrong or illegal. The cops are not right in this.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2018 07:09 PM (F/KeJ)
Posted by: OldGrunt at November 12, 2018 07:10 PM (C7VvA)
by surprise before dawn in his own home.
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2018 07:11 PM (FhXTo)
It was wrong they were there. It was wrong that they were sent to take his gun. It was stupid to go at five in the morning.
But it's not as though a regular old cop can simply decide that they aren't going to go serve an order that their bosses told them to serve.
Posted by: Julie A Pascal at November 12, 2018 07:11 PM (BD/yx)
I'm sure they are swell fellows, but I don't care to excuse their actions on that basis.
This is wrong on just about every level that there is.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 12, 2018 07:11 PM (Uiz/V)
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2018 05:56 PM (U7k5w)
In Ohio, that would be considered a Night-time service of a court order and bigly hoops must be jumped. If the MD officers were expecting trouble, 2 guys would be a bit light on the manpower since the now-deceased guy had firearms available -- if they weren't expecting trouble, no reason to be there before about 8AM and Daylight service.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 12, 2018 07:11 PM (5Yee7)
5:00 a.m. unannounced raid? Because that's what it was, whether they rang the doorbell or not.
I'm assuming that they could have picked the guy up whenever, wherever they wished.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2018 07:03 PM (CDGwz)
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Create a situation with a little subterfuge.
Sorry to bother you sir. Could you step out here and look at the damage on your car/house/mailbox. We had several reports early this morning and neeed your help.
Sir, I need to serve you with this paperwork here...
Get him away from the guns, and from hiding in the house.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 07:12 PM (xFmWK)
Somebody may shoot the first on but the second will rip you to shreds.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 12, 2018 07:12 PM (OuKaw)
I have seen and read of too many examples of bad behavior by police. I don't give them the benefit of the doubt. Their word is suspect unless it is backed by evidence like video, or third party testimony.
I will never believe FBI testimony about interviewing without video or audio evidence. 302 does not cut it.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2018 07:18 PM (xFmWK)
I disagree, war should start yesterday, and there should be building left standing, no spark of electricity in Gaza. All Hamasholes to be disarmed or sent to their 72 virgins.
Posted by: More Amba at November 12, 2018 07:22 PM (XvCBi)
Posted by: More Amba at November 12, 2018 07:23 PM (XvCBi)
Posted by: DynamiteDan at November 12, 2018 07:26 PM (MqzWH)
Please.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at November 12, 2018 07:27 PM (fCE6j)
Posted by: klaftern at November 12, 2018 07:38 PM (RuIsu)
So maybe they startled him on purpose, so that he would grab his gun before going to the door, thinking it's a home invasion attempt.
Posted by: PG at November 12, 2018 07:45 PM (iqCkn)
Posted by: DynamiteDan at November 12, 2018 07:49 PM (MqzWH)
This is like so many other shootings by cop when the family calls the cops thinking they can handle the situation leaving the family out of the scrum so they won't get blamed by the person they're calling about once they get out or back from wherever the police take them.
Trouble is the police have very few actual options and since these days the cops don't like to get physical and if they don't have a taser it's Bullet Time.
People don't understand about that because they've been sold that Mr. Cop is Your Friend lie for so long.
No offense to LE but the cops ain't your friend when they're on duty. They have protocols and rules that they must follow or be suspended or dismissed if they don't.
Hopefully this will discourage a few of the pearl clutchers for calling the cops unless the person is actually waving a gun around for no reason.
Posted by: jakee308 at November 12, 2018 07:51 PM (P16Qe)
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Posted by: DCA at November 12, 2018 08:05 PM (Hc2uj)
http://mindfulwebworks.com/art-of/ etc.
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2018 06:59 PM (FhXTo)
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There's nothing in there about why the pretty formatting icons may or may not work, and why I always have to hit double-double space between lines except that sometimes I don't.
Also nothing in there about why you could post that whole URL and I got an error message and had to come back here and type "etc."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (13CQC)
Posted by: Still Another Zap Rowsdower at November 12, 2018 08:15 PM (XyJqS)
Posted by: Ace's liver at November 12, 2018 08:16 PM (h2Bdk)
My opinion of LE has dropped to say the least.
Don't get me started on the FBI.
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 12, 2018 08:46 PM (trMj1)
Posted by: Victoria at November 12, 2018 09:00 PM (RkVDm)
Posted by: ChupaMe at November 12, 2018 09:30 PM (qE3QB)
That's hardly conducive to a calm and reasonable interaction.
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