Please Tell Me Some More About How the NeverTrumpers Are The Most Conservative Republicans In the Universe


It would be one thing if Flake were merely liked by our most marginal, liberal-leaning semi-voters. Every party has a more liberal wing and a more conservative wing.

There's nothing wrong with that. It's unavoidable. It's just something that has to be worked out by compromise and bartering.

But of course the "Super Conservative" Thought Influencer class -- which, in theory, should be trying to make the voting population as a whole more conservative, not more liberal -- is pretty keen on Jeff Flake, too:




Why is it that our institutions are not merely overpopulated with but dominated by liberal Republicans? Shouldn't liberal Republicans merely be a 15-20% segment of our magazines and think tanks, with the most of the rest being genuine three-legs-of-the-stool conservatives?

Jonah Goldberg has been loudly bragging that he supports gay marriage since before Obama admitted he supported gay marriage.

He also recently declared that he's basically or "essentially" pro-life, which is code for what I am: pro-choice, but not really upset by the sort of minor restrictions that conservatives are likely to actually get through the courts.

He's a social liberal.

There's nothing scandalous about that -- any party should have, and will be strengthened by, a diversity of opinions on various matters.

But the pro-gay-marriage position is not a minority opinion in the class that rules the Republican Party. It is the dominant position, and long has been.

Do you really think Bill Kristol favors gun rights?

Have you ever seen him holding a gun? Writing about guns?

Do you really believe the conservative writers who are not chiefly on the pro-life beat are really very pro-life?

Because I don't. If they really were pro-life, they wouldn't always be shouting down pro-lifers agitating for a cause important to them, saying "Shhh! You're injecting divisive issues into the political debate!"

Yes. Injecting divisive issues into the political debate is the only way of changing the status quo.

Those who prefer to keep the status quo will shout down those "trouble-makers" and "Hobbits' trying to upset it. They will claim their reasons are tactical -- "We just don't want to inject this issue into the election" -- but their real reason is substantive:

They are not strongly opposed to the pro-choice regime, though they wouldn't mind a few restrictions around the edges. (Like me, but I've never claimed to be anything other than pro-choice with some restrictions.)

Similarly, the liberals crying "Don't talk about immigration!" are pretending their objection is merely a tactical one, one of timing and method, but their real objection is substantive: they want to keep the status quo of lax to no border enforcement, no wall, very limited deportation and only for the hardest of hardened criminals, etc.

They won't tell you the truth about this -- they'll just snipe at any effort to change the status quo -- because, like the actual progressive Democrats who are their kissing cousins, they have learned to hide their real positions from the Deplorables and Riff-Raff they rule over, concealing their actual position (keep the no-enforcement status quo, grant DACA in exchange for... nothing) while pretending they're only objecting to timing and messaging.

Or, with Trump: "decorum" and "civility."

They invent false reasons for opposing you because if they told you the truth -- that they disagree with you on substance, and not just on minor things but on foundational elements of conservative thinking -- you would correctly categorize them as "liberal" and no longer heed their counsel or buy their (failing) magazines.

Conservatives are consistently marginalized and dominated by liberals even in their own fucking political party.

Why is the alleged conservative party's political class and media class absolutely dominated by liberal Republicans?

Shouldn't a conservative party be top-heavy with conservative thinkers and leaders instead of top-heavy with liberal Republicans, with only an occasional dissenting conservative allowed?

Is that allowed? Or would that be too racist a thing for the liberals to permit?

Again, I don't mind the idea that there should be contrarian/dissenting voices in the GOP's leadership/influencer ranks.

But these are not contrarian or dissenting positions in the current ranks! The current dominant -- dominant! Not just a minority objection, but the dominant position among our "leaders" -- is that we must have Obama's Open Borders regime.

We just don't want to call it Open Borders. We want to pretend we're doing something while actually doing nothing. Like Obama did.

And then adding DACA.

That's the dominant position among this class, and they'll blackball you from the Club if you make too much noise objecting to it.

A conservative party should not be structured so that liberals are empowered to marginalize and deplatform actual conservatives from positions of influence within the party.

Again, I don't mind Jonah Goldberg's social liberalism in the party's leadership structure.

What I do mind is that Jonah Goldberg's social liberalism is the party's leadership structure.

More: Being socially moderate (eh, moderate to conservative, depending on the issue) myself, I wouldn't want to be purged from the party. I would say of myself, "Hey, there are people like me who vote Republican sometimes, and you can't just purge us all if you want to win elections."

So I wouldn't say "Purge Jonah Goldberg."

I do find it preposterous, however, that in a party in which most party regulars demand more border enforcement and support a wall -- and that about 35-40% of the general population supports these positions -- this majority position in the GOP is treated by the leadership class as if it's fringe if not outright racist.

Either way, our Leaders, if you can call them that, are not representing us on this issue, and not because of tactical considerations or because Trump doesn't "talk about it the right way." If that last objection were a real objection, then there should be no trouble amassing a lot of conservative media writers who do talk about immigration "in the right way" so that Trump can shut his yapper and just quote them.

But they don't.

Because they support Obama's immigration policy, in the main.

And they will keep on lying to you about this until you confront them about it, the same as you'd confront the hostile progressive media about their lies.

An Eye-Opening Moment: Remember when Todd Akin made his "legitimate rape" comments?

Dana Loesch fought for him to remain in the race, because Dana Loesch is pro-life and feels, as many pro-lifers do, that a baby created by rape or some other terrible circumstance is still a baby and still a life, and so what Akin said, while inartful, was a perfectly respectable political position to hold.

And she was screamed at for it.

Now, as I've said, I share Jonah Goldberg's (real) position on abortion: I'm mostly pro-life with tepid support of stuff like a 20 week cutoff and such.

For someone like me, who is pro-choice, Akin's position was indeed somewhat "extreme" and unforgiving.

But what I couldn't understand is all of these alleged "pro-life" Republicans joining in the screaming at Dana Loesch for his alleged extremism.

Then it dawned on me: Oh, the writer/professional caste of this party is only somewhat pro-life (some about as pro-life as I am, which is: not that pro-life) so of course they'll scream at Dana Loesch for pushing an absolutist (yet philosophically consistent) position on abortion.

I'm not saying that a real pro-lifer has to agree with Dana Loesch's position. I'm just saying that it shouldn't come as a shock that must be shouted down with great vehemence and social-shaming.

It should be more like a debatable point where you go, "No, I can't go that far; you're wrong, Dana."

And I started to wonder: Why don't the more socially-liberal or moderate Republicans forthrightly state that they're social liberals on this or that policy, so that people like Dana Loesch are not deceived into believing they represent a majority position?

I mean, from Dana Loesch's point of view: All of these conservatives swear on a stack of Bibles that they're intensely pro-life; why wouldn't she, or shouldn't she, take them at their word and assume that Akin's position, though maybe at the edges of what they'd prefer, was still a legitimate position?

Similarly, we have a lot of de facto Open Borders advocates who are cowards and will not admit they are essentially Open Borders advocates. They lie to other conservatives and claim to support some conveniently nebulous, unspecified plan for enforcement, and yet object to every tangible enforcement step offered.

Don't the Open Borders people realize they are deceiving the rest of the party into thinking the border enforcement/sovereignty position is much more widely held than it really is by consistently lying to people about their actual position?

Eh. Maybe they're lying to themselves, too. Maybe they think they really are in favor of border security, in some hazy, not-very-thought-through way, and then perpetually find them outraged and disgusted by actual, tangible border control efforts.

Precisely because they never bothered to think about the issue except in a Checklist Conservative way -- Oh sure, I support border enforcement and oh sure, I'm super-pro-life too -- and so every time they're forced to examine the actual issue, they're surprised by what they see.

You mean to say -- if we enforce the border, we're going to have to tell hardworking migrants they can't come into the country?

Well! That doesn't sound nice at all! I had no idea that excluding foreigners from our country entailed some exclusion!

Exclusion is so exclusionary, you know?

Or:

You mean if someone with a child is arrested for an illegal border crossing, we're going to have to separate the child from its parent while the parent is in jail? Egads! Why I never considered That!!!!

I basically think the Conservatism, Inc. scam is full of bullshit, and bullshitters, and outright grifters, and will not tell its customers/marks what it really thinks, and also is pretty stupid and thoughtless, and partly doesn't tell its customers/marks what it really thinks because it hasn't even bothered to figure out what it really thinks.

Until a liberal says "LOOK AT THIS OUTRAGE" on Twitter and then they think about it for literally the first time and have their opinions set by their liberal pals by 9am.

A "thinker" caste which won't tell you what it actually thinks, or which hasn't even bothered to figure out what it really thinks before being asked to make a snap-decision on Twitter about something they never thought about before.

But Trump's the problem here, right?

Is it too much to ask of our supposed Thinking Class to have thought more about major long-proposed policies than not at all?

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1 NTs are hos

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 07, 2018 05:53 PM (dMvl+)

2 Ass wipes

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2018 05:53 PM (O2RFr)

3 also First!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 07, 2018 05:53 PM (dMvl+)

4 We need another flake? Hell no.

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:53 PM (a0IVu)

5 I will get the others....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (uDcBt)

6 First

Posted by: Octopussy at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (cJXkX)

7 Roomy!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (I16G8)

8 its the ettes thread!

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (a0IVu)

9 OT: Was perusing the goth chick blogs on Tumblr and one of them just posted that Jerry Nadler is going "all in" on a Kavanaugh and Trump impeachment effort.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik: Air Pinochet trainee at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (DTX3h)

10

As a staunch conservative, I like getting pegged by large black strap-ons, 'cause I'm not racist!

Posted by: Cock Curious Cuck Cruise Captain Crystol at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (flOBQ)

11 Sessions out as AG.

Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (bUjCl)

12 Brother we could use a flake like Jeff Flake again

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (BXMxN)

13 Not even close. Top ten in the books.

Posted by: Octopussy at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (cJXkX)

14 Polishing my saber here, boss.

Posted by: Archer at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (gmo/4)

15 until calm mentor posted that is

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (a0IVu)

16 I think I despise Nevers more than Leftists, they should know better.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (T4oHT)

17 Is that news ?

Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 05:55 PM (bUjCl)

18 I am shakened AND stirred. My world is upside down.

Posted by: Dark and cloudy with a chance of meatballs at November 07, 2018 05:55 PM (sLvAU)

19 NTs are just for gravy

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 07, 2018 05:55 PM (dMvl+)

20 "Shhh! You're injecting divisive issues into the political debate!"

What else would the political debate be about?

Posted by: t-bird at November 07, 2018 05:55 PM (NAs56)

21 Great column, Ace.
They invent false reasons for opposing you because if they told you the truth -- that they disagree with you on substance, and not just on minor things but on foundational elements of conservative thinking -- you would correctly categorize them as "liberal" and no longer heed their counsel or buy their (failing) magazines.

Conservatives are consistently marginalized and dominated by liberals even in their own fucking political party.


Bingo.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 07, 2018 05:55 PM (I2dne)

22 Sinema won the bikini portion of the contest, but McSally won the air-to-air portion.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (ZifzP)

23 Are we even still allowed to be anti-gay marriage in America anymore? Or is now just about "religious liberty" which I get the feeling the NeverTrumpers would compromise away so long as Father John doesn't have to officiate a Catholic wedding.

Posted by: SH at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (sX1BW)

24 Every party has a more liberal wing and a more conservative wing.

Often, the liberal wing of the GOP is driven by the "abortion on demand" agenda, IMO. Why it's a deal-breaker for them I will never know.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (Tyii7)

25 It always bothered me when guys like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity chose to live in NYC. I understand it's also the media capital, but even if the rest of the earth was flooded with magma, I wouldn't live there. I'm glad Limbaugh finally moved to Florida.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (mmycy)

26 OT: Was perusing the goth chick blogs on Tumblr and one of them just posted that Jerry Nadler is going "all in" on a Kavanaugh and Trump impeachment effort.

You don't say? That would make a great topic for a post.

Posted by: t-bird at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (NAs56)

27 It doesn't surprise me Sinema voters approved of a useful idiot that tried to sabotage Trump at every turn.

Had he been the nominee, these same Sinema voters would have then not approved of Jeff Flake, because he got in the way of the authentic progressive.

Sort of like McCain, liberal media loved him until he ran against Obama

Posted by: Blago at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (Wffd2)

28 until calm mentor posted that is
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (a0IVu)

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Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (I16G8)

29 23 Just be glad homosexuality isn't mandatory....yet

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (BXMxN)

30 Do these douchbags even have much of a following? I mean, seriously, who would follow them into battle?

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (d7Ww2)

31 If I had not read the post I would be numero uno! Heh.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (b+Fr8)

32 It tells you everything you need to know that the House Freedom Caucus is a tiny group of House members in an isolated corner of the room, and largely ignored by the rest of the Republican House.

In any rational world, almost all of the Republican House would be a "Freedom Caucus."

Posted by: MW at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (hNTtn)

33 seb gorka is being mysterious.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (isRia)

34 Oh Ace, you're young. The first election I was eligible to vote in was in 1980 - the year Ronald Reagan ran for president against Jimmy Carter. But in the primaries earlier that year, his main competition was George HW Bush, who at that time was pro-choice! The moderate Republican was the norm prior to Reagan and the Moral Majority.

Posted by: Mary at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (cOMI0)

35 I'd pay to see a foot race between Jonah and Nadler.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (ptqGC)

36 From the last thread, about John James, per the MI Sec of State website number:

471 This Michigan vote count is ridiculous..what is the hold up w/ that one county?
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:37 PM (a0IVu)

The unreported county is Wayne, mostly Detroit. Remember the Jill Stein voting box irregularities? I'm guessing the SOS is making sure the votes are kosher prior to reporting.

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (kiSdp)

37 27 Sadly I have heard that McSally is in the same class...

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (BXMxN)

38 28 until calm mentor posted that is
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (a0IVu)

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Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (I16G

that was in reference to me saying this was an ettes thread since the first few comments were from us..

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (a0IVu)

39 See, this is why you can't retire Ace.


Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (bUjCl)

40
The unreported county is Wayne, mostly Detroit. Remember the Jill Stein voting box irregularities? I'm guessing the SOS is making sure the votes are kosher prior to reporting.

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (kiSdp)

Detroit? Ugh...guessing it would be for stabby?

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (a0IVu)

41 Jonah Goldberg used Ayn Rands editor, but his books are not nearly as memorable.

Posted by: OCBill at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (ijewn)

42 Nevertrumpers are the dung beetles of our political system.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (Rt8Uf)

43 "Do you really think Bill Kristol favors gun rights?

Have you ever seen him holding a gun?"

Every time I see his dumbass twitter picture, it looks like he's holding a gun to his temple. Chalk it up to wishful thinking I guess.

Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (oh+79)

44 Sadly I have heard that McSally is in the same class...

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The GOP women who fought to save Roe.

Posted by: Future Time Headline at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (sX1BW)

45 36 Is not Detroit mostly empty except for packs of wild dogs?

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (BXMxN)

46 Brother we could use a flake like Jeff Flake again

As Leon Trotsky said during yesterday's art thread, yeah, like another hole in the head!

Posted by: t-bird at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (Y9zp1)

47 I don't think Goldberg is pro-death penalty either IIRC. And if I had to guess he doesn't have a problem with some 'common sense' gun control. Again that's just a guess.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (A6Xv7)

48 I cast my first vote for Richard Milhouse Nixon. Would do it again, too.

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2018 05:59 PM (zLDYs)

49 35 I'd pay to see a foot race between Jonah and Nadler.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (ptqGC)

Bet we could get them to a rapid walk if we dangled a donut in front of them..

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:59 PM (a0IVu)

50 I see Stacey Bodice Ripper Abrams still hasn't conceded.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 05:59 PM (ptqGC)

51 23 Are we even still allowed to be anti-gay marriage in America anymore? Or is now just about "religious liberty" which I get the feeling the NeverTrumpers would compromise away so long as Father John doesn't have to officiate a Catholic wedding.
Posted by: SH at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (sX1BW)

No. And you can't opt out, either. You WILL bake that ghey cake, you WILL take pictures of Bruce and Shawn in their pink tuxes, you WILL rent your chapel to the diesel dykes, and you WILL officiate the ghey "weddings" or face prosecution and ruin.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 07, 2018 05:59 PM (NWiLs)

52 Goldberg is irrelevant. Newspapers are dying, and like many Never Trumpers, they have been blacklisted by the White House and pro trump lobbyists.

Posted by: Jonah at November 07, 2018 05:59 PM (9CHP2)

53 @48 ... 1960 or 1968?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 07, 2018 05:59 PM (ZifzP)

54 Goldberg amazingly (I am still that naive) said a day or two ago he was indifferent about who won the House. To paraphrase Ace, I no longer know what the point of him is.

Posted by: Chriscom at November 07, 2018 06:00 PM (H2FoK)

55 I really used to like Jonah Goldberg.Thought he was funny and smart.Liberal Fascism is great(albeit too many apologies and averralsthat it is not about the Democrat party today etc)

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 06:00 PM (BXMxN)

56 fucking green bay media sucks diseased cock. by choice. i loathe every one of the assholes. smug pricks working in a third tier media shithole. fuck em.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 07, 2018 06:00 PM (KP5rU)

57 @48 ... 1960 or 1968?

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Could be 52 or 56

Posted by: SH at November 07, 2018 06:00 PM (sX1BW)

58 Dragon wife and I had a very conservative wedding. We did not invite the government.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:00 PM (b+Fr8)

59 There are no liberal Republicans as they are Democrats wearing the R label for their own advantage.

Kasich was on a show being interviewed a few days ago and a liberal friend was listening and said "I like this Republican!". I could only laugh at his ignorance. Kasich is a Republican like I am Ms. America.

Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2018 06:00 PM (oiNtH)

60 @Kyrstensenema

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 07, 2018 06:00 PM (M+Lyo)

61 Detroit? Ugh...guessing it would be for stabby?
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (a0IVu)

Not necessarily for Dummy Stabenow. Guy on the radio said James kicked ass in the rural areas, but he should appeal in Detroit, too.

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:00 PM (kiSdp)

62 that was in reference to me saying this was an ettes thread since the first few comments were from us..
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (a0IVu)

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Ah, gotcha. I was worried for a bit that it regarded your "flake" comment.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 07, 2018 06:00 PM (I16G8)

63 I hope yesterday's purge was effective. If not, we are fucked, and it's time for the final box.

Posted by: Oedipus at November 07, 2018 06:01 PM (EDsFA)

64 25. Mike Gallagher is moving to Florida also

Posted by: Jonah at November 07, 2018 06:01 PM (9CHP2)

65 38 28 until calm mentor posted that is
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:54 PM (a0IVu)

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Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (I16G

that was in reference to me saying this was an ettes thread since the first few comments were from us..
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 05:57 PM (a0IVu)

She's saying you ruined their taco party.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 07, 2018 06:01 PM (NWiLs)

66 > Just be glad homosexuality isn't mandatory....yet

That is the day I come out as a translesbian -- a woman trapped in a man's body who wants to have sex with women.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 07, 2018 06:01 PM (vOkuK)

67 Sinema wins can we have a vote to eject them from the union? Sell them to Mexico?

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:01 PM (T4oHT)

68 45; don't forget the coyotes and werewolves.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 07, 2018 06:01 PM (KP5rU)

69 Johna doesn't like winning.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 07, 2018 06:01 PM (M+Lyo)

70 I heard on the radio today that Chuck Schumer is upset.
That made me feel a little better.

Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (UdKB7)

71 39 See, this is why you can't retire Ace.


Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (bUjCl)

wait, what?

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (d7Ww2)

72 "Conservatives are consistently marginalized and dominated by liberals even in their own fucking political party."

Kind of suggests that may conservatism isn't really that viable a political belief, no? Of course, much like "true communism," the claim will simply be that no one has ever actually tried "true conservatism" yet.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (rznWS)

73 Nevertrumpers only believe in rights as long as they're paid to believe in those rights. Kristol for the 2nd Amendment? Only as long as the check to do so clears.

Posted by: Archer at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (gmo/4)

74

34 Oh Ace, you're young. * * * *

Posted by: Mary


Ha, someone's new here...

Ace is well into his second decade of being "29." But that is correct, Mary, the Republican party has only recently become the "conservatives' party." Packwood, Rockefeller, all those out and out liberals who used to be the main players in the party are now largely forgotten. The truth is, conservatives have never really had a place in the Republican party, stretching all the way back beyond Goldwater. We've been the marginalized weirdos (with some justification on occasion), but since the aggressive ideological sorting of the last two decades, we are feeling like the mainstay of the Rs. That's a new condition, and one that the liberal wing has not adjusted to.

Posted by: imp at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (w+Z9D)

75 Cucktail parties are for the cucks only ... real conservatives are occasionally allowed entrance, but are to be pointed at, laughed at.
"How gauche, who let that deplorable in here?"

Posted by: illiniwek at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (Cus5s)

76 The James race is over. He's down 6.

Posted by: Ha at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (ifGaJ)

77 > I see Stacey Bodice Ripper Abrams still hasn't conceded.

As I said in the previous thread, Mark BagItch (Communist-Anchorage) finally has, although that race wasn't nearly as close.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (vOkuK)

78 45 36 Is not Detroit mostly empty except for packs of wild dogs?

Yeah, on the east side. There's also a lot of pheasants there I would hunt, but I'd be outgunned. That is one area I won't go to in the daytime.

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:03 PM (kiSdp)

79 Kind of suggests that may conservatism isn't really that viable a political belief, no?

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Checks current state of economy.

Nope that isn't what it suggests at all.

Posted by: SH at November 07, 2018 06:03 PM (sX1BW)

80 76 The headlines should be "Black man robbed by white woman"

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 06:03 PM (BXMxN)

81 > The James race is over. He's down 6.

I really hope Trump finds something for that fine man to do that gives him national exposure. He's got a future ahead of him.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 07, 2018 06:03 PM (vOkuK)

82 Such harsh words for the true patriots ace. This is why you people lose elections.

Posted by: Rick Wilson at November 07, 2018 06:03 PM (r9UYA)

83 Sen. Severely Conservative is a NT and it hasn't at all affected his perfect hair.

Posted by: kallisto at November 07, 2018 06:03 PM (avEKX)

84 Posted by: imp at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (w+Z9D)

Republicans have always been socially conservative.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (A6Xv7)

85 I ain't really all that disillusioned.

I've long known that GOP just mouths words to attract value voters. So do the rest of the evangelicals. And that's why the turnout with evangelicals is so inconsistent.

Pecking order:

1. Money Men
2. Salesman/Organizers/Hucksters
3. Platform Analysts
4. LI Voters
5. True ideologues


You actually mean the least to the organization. No one gives a rat f*ck about ideals above Level 3 and only at Level 3 in as much as they must send a report to Level 2 on what the buzz words should be.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (jZQUe)

86 81 > The James race is over. He's down 6.

I really hope Trump finds something for that fine man to do that gives him national exposure. He's got a future ahead of him.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 07, 2018 06:03 PM (vOkuK)

Not according to Ruth Johnson, SoS in Michigan.

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (a0IVu)

87 Can we call this a center right country anymore? It seems like a big part of the Republican Party is moderate democrats.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (dNzKv)

88 72 "Conservatives are consistently marginalized and dominated by liberals even in their own fucking political party."

Kind of suggests that may conservatism isn't really that viable a political belief, no? Of course, much like "true communism," the claim will simply be that no one has ever actually tried "true conservatism" yet.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (rznWS)

No. Just that it's a tougher road. Free shit and appealing to the basest of human instincts is easy. Indulging those instincts is easy. However, it's also highly destructive.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (NWiLs)

89 It always bothered me when guys like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity chose to live in NYC. I understand it's also the media capital, but even if the rest of the earth was flooded with magma, I wouldn't live there. I'm glad Limbaugh finally moved to Florida.
Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 07, 2018 05:56 PM (mmycy)

It's just a smart career move. Get successful at a media job and want to move up? Move to a media city/ major market. Industry networking matters a ton in that profession.

The internet is changing the dynamics a little these days, you can be very successful in the middle of nowhere, but even then you would still have representation working on your behalf in the major markets. And major internet personalities still lack the mainstream visibility of traditional media.

Posted by: Sjg at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (gDSJf)

90 87 We do need to update the labels...

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 06:05 PM (BXMxN)

91 Oh, FFS.

Jake Tapper and Wolf Blitzkreig praise Accoster as a brave warrior today:

https://tinyurl.com/yctlgcfz

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 06:05 PM (ptqGC)

92 Democrats fight tooth and nail now for any election close, they will want recounts, then find voter suppression locations.
Heard on radio some judge made a polling location stay open longer on a college campus in Georgia.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:05 PM (T4oHT)

93 91 Than he went home and wrestled the toy frog away from a puppy....

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 06:06 PM (BXMxN)

94 A radio show can be done from any location, Prager often will do it from his hotel room

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:06 PM (T4oHT)

95 Why should I believe the words of a lying spineless coward?
You cashed too many Soros checks, Jonah.

At least Pelosi and Schumer are committed and loyal.
You're worse than a Vichy coward. You didn't turncoat out of fear.

You turned for money.

Nothing you write or say is any more significant than a fart in a Cat 5 hurricane.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:06 PM (LL1Be)

96 >>91
Oh, FFS.

Jake Tapper and Wolf Blitzkreig praise Accoster as a brave warrior today:

https://tinyurl.com/yctlgcfz

Posted by: Jane D'oh

Bronze Star worthy.

Posted by: Rick Wilson at November 07, 2018 06:06 PM (r9UYA)

97 42
Nevertrumpers are the dung beetles of our political system.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (Rt8Uf)

That isn't even an exaggeration.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 07, 2018 06:06 PM (UsCnO)

98 Could we try full-on right wing psycho for a while?
Everything else has failed.

Posted by: DaveA at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (FhXTo)

99 I for one am shocked - shocked! - that anyone would suggest removing bipolar liars from positions of influence in our midst.

Okay, not that shocked. A smidgen.

Posted by: Sporkatus at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (HtLSE)

100 Democrats fight tooth and nail now for any election close, they will want recounts, then find voter suppression locations.

Heard on radio some judge made a polling location stay open longer on a college campus in Georgia.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:05 PM (T4oHT)


For some reason, some polling places decided they "needed" to stay open until 9:25 last night in the Atlanta area. Yeah, nothing fishy there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (ptqGC)

101 Not according to Ruth Johnson, SoS in Michigan.
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (a0IVu)


...come again? This is news to me, but I've been in a bunker all day.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (mS+Df)

102 They invent false reasons for opposing you because if they told you the
truth -- that they disagree with you on substance, and not just on minor
things but on foundational elements of conservative thinking -- you
would correctly categorize them as "liberal" and no longer heed their
counsel




I can think of so many social conservatives who are an awkward embarrassment to the "conservative" elites. Just saying their name will get you laughed at and looked down upon, as if you had scabies.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (lwiT4)

103 That is the day I come out as a translesbian -- a woman trapped in a man's body who wants to have sex with women.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 07, 2018 06:01 PM (vOkuK)

..........

I claim to be a lesbian all the time. Get more booty from dragon wife.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (b+Fr8)

104 I saw Bill Kristol holding something....but it wasn't a gun.

Posted by: BignJames at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (0+nbW)

105 Excellent points Ace. My list acceptable essay writers started getting too small so I have had to search for more true conservative essays, and they are out there. This one was pretty dang good!

Posted by: Radar at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (j3rGv)

106 BFM @ 53- That would be 72, sir.

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (zLDYs)

107 Supposedly there are 1 million mail in votes to count in AZ and it will be next week till we find out we lost, i mean who won

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (O2RFr)

108 101 Not according to Ruth Johnson, SoS in Michigan.
Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (a0IVu)

...come again? This is news to me, but I've been in a bunker all day.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (mS+Df)

https://mielections.us/election/results/2018GEN_CENR.html#05000000

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 06:08 PM (a0IVu)

109 The NT GOPe press has no skin in the game.
ace has skins but they're not his.

Posted by: DaveA at November 07, 2018 06:08 PM (FhXTo)

110 76 The James race is over. He's down 6.
Posted by: Ha at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (ifGaJ)

From SOS website:
Dummy 1,743,506
James 1,737,880

5,000 something with Wayne county not reporting yet?

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:08 PM (kiSdp)

111 Never forget that Goldberg doesn't even own his own chair. Someone else does.

That person tells him what to think and what to write.

Remember when he was funny and irreverent? Yeah, they told him to be that way. And then they decided he needed to be neutered.

Goldberg and the rest are impervious to argument not because they have social status anxiety (which they do) but because they are being paid by the word.


Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 07, 2018 06:08 PM (cfSRQ)

112 Jake Tapper and Wolf Blitzkreig praise Accoster as a brave warrior today:

https://tinyurl.com/yctlgcfz

Posted by: Jane D'oh

Oh FFS. Why don't they get it over with and the 3 of them get a room.

Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2018 06:08 PM (oiNtH)

113 66 > Just be glad homosexuality isn't mandatory....yet.

Common-Sense, Universal, Mandatory Sodomy For The Kids! Administered by Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at November 07, 2018 06:08 PM (KcCOu)

114 Any word on AZ after Rush's report?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 07, 2018 06:08 PM (imkjA)

115 Kind of suggests that may conservatism isn't really that viable a political belief, no?


You're right. You've convinced me to abandon my principles, pack it in and apply for a boarding pass on Little Admiral Kristol's cuck cruise.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 07, 2018 06:08 PM (Tyii7)

116 The problem with blackballing everyone from your club is that eventually everyone stops caring about your club.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:09 PM (BRvh1)

117 113 66 > Just be glad homosexuality isn't mandatory....yet.

Common-Sense, Universal, Mandatory Sodomy For The Kids! Administered by Planned Parenthood.
Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at November 07, 2018 06:08 PM (KcCOu)

They've been trying to get that in the school curricula for years.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 07, 2018 06:09 PM (NWiLs)

118 Is not Detroit mostly empty except for packs of wild dogs?
Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (BXMxN)

What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Bears, living in Detroit's overgrown, decaying inner suburbs at November 07, 2018 06:09 PM (P+H3W)

119 Hogmartin and I might be running down Michigan Ave after all.

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (kiSdp)

120 For the record, there is no such thing as "gay marriage."

Carry on.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (qxq6t)

121 Well that didn't take long, fucking Romney is saying the Mueller investigation must be protected and allowed to continue to its conclusion.
I denounce myself for voting for that fraud in 2012.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (7A6l6)

122 Scott Walker has conceded the election. He will not challenge.


Someone talk me down from the ledge. Or not, maybe.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (lwiT4)

123 No. Just that it's a tougher road. Free shit and appealing to the basest of human instincts is easy. Indulging those instincts is easy. However, it's also highly destructive.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (NWiLs)

Sucks that Conservative philosophy of hard truths isn't conducive to having people vote for you. Tax cuts have always been the sole candy Conservatives gave away. Liberals gave away all the rest of the candy. Full bars.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (A6Xv7)

124 Firing Sessions I hope means PDT is going on the attack. That really is the only way to win. The Reps have played nice for way too long.

Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (UdKB7)

125 The Squish Caucus in the Senate is no longer a factor. Corker is out. Flake is out. McCain is replaced.

Collins and Murkowski, joined by Romney, will have to recruit 3 additional squishes to get to 51 votes. That is not gonna happen.

Posted by: Gridlock at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (/DLXk)

126 I don't see why James couldn't easily pick up votes in Wayne County

Posted by: x at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (nFwvY)

127 Is the douchbag rosenstein gone yet?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (r+sAi)

128 Jonah Soyberg can get motorboat fucked by a brain damaged Godzilla.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at November 07, 2018 06:11 PM (+dsLj)

129 Not according to Ruth Johnson, SoS in Michigan.

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 06:04 PM (a0IVu)

---
For people who don't know Michigan...

Wayne County is a Democrat stronghold and will likely cast *800,000* ballots.

Any GOP candidate knows he MUST carry the out counties because if he doesn't, Detroit will swamp him.

I guess it's possible for the GOP to carry Wayne, but in that case, we've truly reached the end times and there's open skate in Hell.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 07, 2018 06:11 PM (cfSRQ)

130 Why all the nonsense trying to use the outdated "Democrat" and "Republican" labels?


In 2018, the election proved, once and for all, there is an "American" party, and a "Globalist" party.



It ain't even worth discussing any more, unless you want to waste your time.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 07, 2018 06:11 PM (UsCnO)

131 124 Firing Sessions I hope means PDT is going on the attack. That really is the only way to win. The Reps have played nice for way too long.

Don Jr. says he expects to be indicted

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2018 06:11 PM (O2RFr)

132 So, are we done congratulating ourselves on the great victory yesterday, saying we have the Dems right where we want 'em?

Has anyone explained how "health care" was an issue, what anyone thought was being done or what the Dems had promised, and how a program directly benefitting a vanishingly small # of people while devastating or hurting a huge majority was suddenly an "issue"?

Posted by: Rhomboid at November 07, 2018 06:11 PM (NyQaH)

133 Oh that got willowed

Heard on radio the Jim Acosta clip, he got a Purple Heart from the ass reaming he got today

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:11 PM (T4oHT)

134 Should I feel pessimistic about Arizona?



In Florida, Nelson was behind by 35k, he wont overcome that in a recount will he?

Posted by: Arumaito at November 07, 2018 06:11 PM (8zvUY)

135 126
I don't see why James couldn't easily pick up votes in Wayne County

Posted by: x at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (nFwvY)

---
He will. He may get 200,000. Yay!

And his opponent will get 600,000.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 07, 2018 06:12 PM (cfSRQ)

136 Oh, FFS.

Jake Tapper and Wolf Blitzkreig praise Accoster as a brave warrior today:

https://tinyurl.com/yctlgcfz
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 06:05 PM (ptqGC)

Those concerned faces are really compelling.

Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 07, 2018 06:12 PM (oh+79)

137 And we should purge the NeverTrumpers as the "Conservatives," purged the John Birch Society.

We are entering the time of rectification and these fucks need to be put down like the dogs they are.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 07, 2018 06:12 PM (qxq6t)

138 MI is called. Every site I see has James down 6.

Posted by: Ha at November 07, 2018 06:12 PM (ifGaJ)

139 The problem with blackballing everyone from your club is that eventually everyone stops caring about your club.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:09 PM (BRvh1)


I don't want to belong to any club that would accept Dickbag Party Hat Dog Picture Asshole as one of its members.

Posted by: Groucho Marx, probably at November 07, 2018 06:12 PM (mS+Df)

140 Oh, FFS.

Jake Tapper and Wolf Blitzkreig praise Accoster as a brave warrior today:

https://tinyurl.com/yctlgcfz
+++++++++++
These people are really full of themselves. They really think they're heroes:

This is the President of the United States, all right. We're not on equal footing. The President is way up here. Individual reporters are way down here. We are supposed to ask them questions and, yes, they always think we're rude, impertinent. Obama thought it, Bush thought it, Clinton thought it. It goes on and on and on. So the idea that CNN is putting out a statement like that is great and what I like about it the most is they're not just standing up for Acosta, they're talking about everybody in that room.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 07, 2018 06:12 PM (I2dne)

141
Scott Walker has conceded the election. He will not challenge.

Someone talk me down from the ledge. Or not, maybe.


Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (lwiT4)


I may join you on that ledge if Kemp isn't declared governor, and Gap-Toothed Obama refuses to concede. Atlanta is doing it's best to turn my state blue.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (ptqGC)

142 Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 07, 2018 06:11 PM (cfSRQ)

Didn't I see somewhere that James had a 40% approval rating with blacks in the D?

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (kiSdp)

143 The actual political fault lines run along elites vs. non-elites, and have for a long time.

Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (agW01)

144
Jonah Goldberg, Lab owner.

Lab owners are not to be trusted because, Lab owners.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (bWXm6)

145 Look at it this way. The Left discards what they don't need after they exceed their usefulness. These clowns just wrote their own obscurity tickets. They will never be welcomed back into the GOP tent in any substantive capacity. They will never be anything more than puppets to the Left.

That leaves then fulfilling the role of ridicule. Which, of course, you are confirming with this thread, and the amusing comments that follow.

Posted by: Orson at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (YdyF2)

146 Supposedly there are 1 million mail in votes to count in AZ and it will be next week till we find out we lost, i mean who won
Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (O2RFr)

That would be good for the military vote, correct ?

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (M+Lyo)

147 I'm not "pro-choice", in any way, shape or fashion. I also don't like that nomenclature because it is political, meaning it is meant to convey a specific message. Pro-Choice Man, bad. He Neanderthal who wants to take away your right.

Not really.

I'm "pro-life" because I believe in the sanctity of life as taught to us by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I ultimately believe it's your choice as to whether you actually seek an abortion in a situation that warrants it. Since it's a religious belief, and frankly I don't see it as any other type, I don't want my tax money or government involved in the process. At all.

That's both intellectually, and frankly, constitutionally defensible. If that somehow makes me cromagnon man, so be it.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2018 06:14 PM (wJ+c3)

148 142
Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 07, 2018 06:11 PM (cfSRQ)



Didn't I see somewhere that James had a 40% approval rating with blacks in the D?

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (kiSdp)

---
Never saw that. Trump has done well, but Detroit is...special.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 07, 2018 06:14 PM (cfSRQ)

149 Another thing Pat Toomey said was the tax cuts received no points in polling, he said Democrats, give them kudos, turned that info to their bonus lying it only served the rich.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:14 PM (T4oHT)

150 Is not Detroit mostly empty except for packs of wild dogs?
Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (BXMxN)

Parts of Detroit are quite vibrant now and no, not with guns and violence

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:14 PM (AllCR)

151 There's some truth to the OP. But I think it discounts how unconservative conservatives themselves have become on social issues. Apart from a small rump, conservatives have surrendered on gay marriage, are comfortable with premarital sex, bastardy, homosexuality, and divorce, are irreligious by past standards, are unwillingly to publicly say anything that will be hurtful or make others feel uncomfortable (even if they think it is true and important), engage in the same helicopter parenting. How unrepresentative is Jonah Goldberg?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 07, 2018 06:14 PM (H5knJ)

152 "conservatism" is more of a project than an ideology.

The ideology is "Liberalism". Free markets. Individual Liberty. Minimal government and distributed government. Checks and Balances. Etc.

"Conservatism" is just a political mechanism for Americans who disagree around the edges to gang up on the flat out Evil forces of creeping European Collectivism, bred from the primordial ooze of Plato, through Comte and Rousseau via the depraved and Godless filter of Rimbaud and Lautremont, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche, to its tragic conclusion in .. well, the 20th century, basically.

If you decide to hop in bed with that Creeping Ooze, even for a one night stand, then face it:

You just ain't A Conservative.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:14 PM (BRvh1)

153 Time to start buying tickets to my wonderful cruises again!

Posted by: Captain Cuck at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (TEv5V)

154 Atlanta is doing it's best to turn my state blue.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (ptqGC)



Trump made me think the country had woken up. Now it seems like the country is set on self-destruct.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (lwiT4)

155 119 Hogmartin and I might be running down Michigan Ave after all.

clutch at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (kiSdp

............

With or without skivies?

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (b+Fr8)

156 There used to be conservatives in BOTH parties.

There were Reagan Republicans and Reagan Democrats.

Now it seems like neither party has room in their tent for conservatives

Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night, not an NPC at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (vfC/C)

157
Have Accosta charged with assault, cuffed and hauled out of the WH Press Room tomorrow. No mercy.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (bWXm6)

158 'Has anyone explained how "health care" was an issue'

IT IS SHUT UP RAAWWK!

Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (UdKB7)

159 >>121
Well that didn't take long, fucking Romney is saying the Mueller
investigation must be protected and allowed to continue to its
conclusion.
I denounce myself for voting for that fraud in 2012.


I'll wait for Turtle to hit Willard in the face with his wife's dick.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (r9UYA)

160 I could support anyone who is faithful to the constitution. More wishcasting.

Posted by: Sumdumchief at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (l+2q0)

161 nurse ratched


waves at nurse from across the sound.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (LOq4H)

162 Dutch man,69,who "identifies as 20 years younger"launches legal challenge to change his age(at war with reality)

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/312513/

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (BXMxN)

163 Just when you think that you've read the most ridiculous and outrageous piece of twaddle, along comes Eric Holder who tweeted this out after news of Sessions resignation.

"Anyone who attempts to interfere with or obstruct the Mueller inquiry must be held accountable, this is a red line. We are a nation of laws and norms not subject to the self-interested actions of one man."

The jokes write themselves.

Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (oiNtH)

164 Don Jr. says he expects to be indicted

NY newspaper claims that he expects, that's all I've heard. Sounds like hooey to me

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (39g3+)

165
So, Eric Holder sez Rosenstein being dismissed from the Mueller probe is a "red line."

Like the one in Syria your boss bragged about?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:16 PM (/9p9e)

166 Pretty bad that Romney sounds just like Holder.

I also denounce myself for voting for him.

Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2018 06:16 PM (oiNtH)

167

84 Republicans have always been socially conservative.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp


Have you ever been around any NE or NW Republicans, especially prior to 2000? Good lord, Bob Packwood--head of way and means, BTW---is pro-abortion. Completely. Susan Collins is not an aberration, she reflects her constituency. Rockefeller was about as liberal as Tip O'Neal, maybe more so.

Real conservatism will only ever appeal to a small segment of the population at any given time. That's why we are so fortunate as a nation to have those values ensconced on a constitution that is both difficult to amend yet relatively clear and enforceable.

Posted by: imp at November 07, 2018 06:16 PM (w+Z9D)

168 TFF
Emile Ratelband, 69, argues that if transgender people are allowed to change sex, he should be allowed to change his date of birth because doctors said he has the body of a 45-year-old.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:16 PM (JFO2v)

169 Ace, NR loves to preen about their role(actually Buckley's role) in purging the John Birch Society and see themselves in similar heroic roles. But they forget WFB's mantra of 'Vote for the farthest right viable candidate", which clearly Trump was and is. If they can't do the latter, they should kindly fuck off when it comes to trying the former.

Posted by: Joe, no that other one at November 07, 2018 06:16 PM (7pOq5)

170 162 Dutch man,69,who "identifies as 20 years younger"launches legal challenge to change his age(at war with reality)

Hey, this could work for me.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 07, 2018 06:16 PM (LOq4H)

171 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 07, 2018 06:16 PM (KCxzN)

172 -
--
in a party in which most party regulars demand more border enforcement
and support a wall -- and that about 35-40% of the general population
supports these positions
-------------------------------

I think it's higher than that.

Posted by: irright at November 07, 2018 06:16 PM (RVcmP)

173 I shed no tears for losing Hugin to Menendez, as Hugin gave every sign of being a NeverTrumper, and I'd rather a frontal assault from a Dem than be continuously stabbed in the anus by a RINO.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (AWiKl)

174 I will forever loathe having to hold my nose and vote for McCain, then Romney.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (ptqGC)

175 See, this is why you can't retire Ace.


Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 05:58 PM (bUjCl)

wait, what?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 07, 2018 06:02 PM (d7Ww2)

Ace teases from time to time. Just a reminder that this is not the time.

Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (bUjCl)

176 What sort of animal abuser places a dunce cap on his canine companion? This is outrageous!

Posted by: Fritz at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (Z9C5C)

177 164 Well,the left has been crowing about it for 2 years and since Mueller has jack shit else I would not be surprised.

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (BXMxN)

178 173 I shed no tears for losing Hugin to Menendez, as Hugin gave every sign of being a NeverTrumper, and I'd rather a frontal assault from a Dem than be continuously stabbed in the anus by a RINO.
Posted by: BluesFish at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (AWiKl)


Is it a stabbing if the hole pre-exists?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (/9p9e)

179 @151
Point of order, Conservatives have not surrendered on "gay marriage," the SCOTUS has removed it from Democratic or Representative consideration.

The question was pretty much settled as a majority of the states and the federal government had decided the issue, Justice Kennedy had other ideas.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (qxq6t)

180 More: Being socially moderate (eh, moderate to conservative, depending on the issue) myself, I wouldn't want to be purged from the party. I would say of myself, "Hey, there are people like me who vote Republican sometimes, and you can't just purge us all if you want to win elections."

So I wouldn't say "Purge Jonah Goldberg."

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:53 PM

Here's the thing: just saying that Jonah Goldberg and William Kristol are unrepresentative doesn't work. They just ignore it and are represented as True Republicans anyways by their media masters. Hundreds of millions of dollars goes into propping up the Ben Shapiros and Ross Douthats. This is by design. When that proved insufficient, players like Alex Jones and GayPatriot had to be banned outright.

So in the face of overwhelming opposition, step 1 is to say no. Jonah Goldberg is not a real Republican, and if you can watch the news for three hours without hearing from a real Republican, you don't actually have a free press.

Posted by: trev006 at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (6rFB/)

181 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:14 PM (AllCR)

Detroit is not vibrant where the starving dog fight losers run in packs near city airport. Other parts are pretty safe, yes.

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (kiSdp)

182 Trump made me think the country had woken up.

No, he was just a speed bump, slowing things down slightly. That's all he ever has been. We aren't voting our way out of this, but God is in charge, and He will see it through for us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (39g3+)

183 164 Don Jr. says he expects to be indicted

NY newspaper claims that he expects, that's all I've heard. Sounds like hooey to me

Sara Carter reported it

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (O2RFr)

184 With or without skivies?
Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (b+Fr


http://tinyurl.com/y7dth75d

Posted by: hogmartin at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (mS+Df)

185 We simply need to take over the party in the same way that the socialists have taken over the Dems.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (CeJUf)

186 And by the way, I'm tired of liberals calling me names and telling others I am a bad person worthy of a beating and ridicule, because they can't defeat my intellectual argument and won't buy into their clearly political, and fallacious, point of view.

That goes double for the subversive cuckoo like Kristin and Goldberg.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (wJ+c3)

187 We need another Flake like Menendez needs be a judge at the Orlando high school cheerleading championships.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (jUVms)

188 'may join you on that ledge if Kemp isn't declared governor, and Gap-Toothed Obama refuses to concede. '

I had a rant all prepared but it pretty much went "That blank blank blank blank blank can blank blank blank blank a blank blanking blank blank and blank blank a blank blanked blank blank."

Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (UdKB7)

189 166 Pretty bad that Romney sounds just like Holder.

I also denounce myself for voting for him.
Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2018 06:16 PM (oiNtH)

I burned my maajic underware last time I voted for him!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (JFO2v)

190 Heya AltonJackson.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (mS+Df)

191
All that matters is judges now. Everything else is just gonna be gridlock. Which is mostly fine. The less laws that come out of DC, the better. If I could send a trance over the current GOP house, I would have them kill obamacare, pass a flat tax, and fund the wall before the end of the year. But I can't and the ones leaving don't have the ideology to do it anyway.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (r+sAi)

192 Goldberg: "We could do worse -- and have."

What you mean "we", fat man?

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (rbgPC)

193 'Corker is out. Flake is out. McCain is replaced. '

And Lindsey is reborn

Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (agW01)

194 174 I will forever loathe having to hold my nose and vote for McCain, then Romney.

Yeah, been voting defensively for 30 years.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (LOq4H)

195 IT IS SHUT UP RAAWWK!
Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (UdKB7)
++++++++++
This and Big Ben are my favorite comedy socks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 07, 2018 06:19 PM (I2dne)

196 186 And by the way, I'm tired of liberals calling me names and telling others I am a bad person worthy of a beating and ridicule, because they can't defeat my intellectual argument and won't buy into their clearly political, and fallacious, point of view.

That goes double for the subversive cuckoo like Kristin and Goldberg.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (wJ+c3)

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This X 1000

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 07, 2018 06:19 PM (jUVms)

197 I can't believe that we still have to argue for the pro-life position in the Republican Party. I mean, my grandpa helped lead the charge for it back in the 70s! Trump was supposedly less pro-life than W, and yet he's racking up far more wins on the issue. Yet again, Trump is ripping off the masks of our "betters."

Posted by: pookysgirl at November 07, 2018 06:19 PM (XKZwp)

198 And Lindsey is reborn


also not ghey. True. That is what he said.

Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 06:19 PM (bUjCl)

199 I shed no tears for losing Hugin to Menendez, as Hugin gave every sign of being a NeverTrumper

I just wanted Menendez to lose and face the consequences of his continual evil. But I knew there was never a chance. Not in Jersey.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2018 06:19 PM (39g3+)

200 196 186 And by the way, I'm tired of liberals calling me names and telling others I am a bad person worthy of a beating and ridicule, because they can't defeat my intellectual argument and won't buy into their clearly political, and fallacious, point of view.

That goes double for the subversive cuckoo like Kristin and Goldberg.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (wJ+c3)

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This X 1000
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 07, 2018 06:19 PM (jUVms)

Yeah, well, I'm ready to ridicule and beat back.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (NWiLs)

201 Somewhere on Ventura Highway @ 146--I voted a lot of years absentee ballot and I wonder if my vote was ever counted (Orange County Florida).

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (zLDYs)

202 I just hope the newly in-charge Demos come up with new fake charges for the Trump family and friends, not the old and tired fake charges their Press Tools have faked for the last 2 years.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (UsCnO)

203 Lab owners are not to be trusted because, Lab owners.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (bWXm6)

Wait...what? I'm a Lab owner...matter of fact, I'm scritchin' her belly as I type this...

Posted by: Antisocialist at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (2shuf)

204
also not ghey. True. That is what he said.

Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 06:19 PM (bUjCl)

Maybe just asexual.

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (a0IVu)

205 Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (b+Fr

Hog said something about running in a Viking helmet, carrying an axe handle if James won. Don't know about the skivvie situation.

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (kiSdp)

206 154 Atlanta is doing it's best to turn my state blue.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 06:13 PM (ptqGC)



Trump made me think the country had woken up. Now it seems like the country is set on self-destruct.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (lwiT4)


Well, that is the big question. Is Trump a harbinger of a renaissance or merely a glorious temporary anomaly on the inevitable, irresistible slide towards the end of the republic as founded?

Considering the nature of who the star candidates are in the Democrat party, I fear it is the latter.

The only way to halt it is a) martial law and the outlawing of the Left and b) seizure of every school and university, the sacking of all the professoriate and complete control of the curriculum. Forever.

Short of that, 20-30 years tops.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (/9p9e)

207 198 Trump cured him.

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (BXMxN)

208 Local news says it is not possible for Abrams to get enough votes to force a runoff or recount. Yay.

Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (UdKB7)

209 Parts of Detroit are quite vibrant now and no, not with guns and violence
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:14 PM (AllCR)


But plenty of that too!

http://tinyurl.com/yb3xg4st

Posted by: hogmartin at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (mS+Df)

210
Supposedly there are 1 million mail in votes to count in AZ and it will be next week till we find out we lost, i mean who won Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (O2RFr)


I've read that many of those are provisional that mostly get tossed.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at November 07, 2018 06:21 PM (TAmPV)

211 174 I will forever loathe having to hold my nose and vote for McCain, then Romney.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (ptqGC)

........

Held my nose and voted against McStain. Thought he would start WW3. Held nose and vote for McRomney.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:21 PM (b+Fr8)

212 Excuse me, I'm an ignorant provincial and do not understand why I should give consideration to what J. Goldberg thinks.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 07, 2018 06:21 PM (TSEbs)

213 if ace transitioned from age 29 to 69 he could retire and draw Social Security

Posted by: x at November 07, 2018 06:21 PM (nFwvY)

214 I just booked my tickets in the Capn Krunch Disco Open Borders Raping Children American Wont Rape White Guilt and Caribbean Child Prostitute Cruise.

How much Astroglide should I take?

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:21 PM (JFO2v)

215 192
Goldberg: "We could do worse -- and have."

What you mean "we", fat man?


Posted by: McLurkerson at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (rbgPC)

---
This.

I'd love him to explain exactly what "conservative" stances he holds. Sounds like he just wants to be the rent boy for the Socialist state.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at November 07, 2018 06:21 PM (cfSRQ)

216 @183
Everyone pretty much saw that coming.

Which is why Trump moved against Sessions and is going to take out Rosenstein.

Muller is going to be fired by the end of the week.
And then Trump issues pardons to Mueller and Flynn and Don Jr.

The party is going to get started quickly.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 07, 2018 06:22 PM (qxq6t)

217 but God is in charge, and He will see it through for us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (39g3+)



I actually don't believe that. JMO.

Posted by: Dark and cloudy with a chance of meatballs at November 07, 2018 06:22 PM (sLvAU)

218 Dems are putting on a full court press to steal FL and AZ.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:22 PM (QBoRM)

219
Is it a stabbing if the hole pre-exists?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (/9p9e)

Yes.

The loophole is post-birth abortion.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 07, 2018 06:22 PM (UsCnO)

220 The only way to halt it is a) martial law and the outlawing of the Left and b) seizure of every school and university, the sacking of all the professoriate and complete control of the curriculum. Forever. 

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (/9p9e)

I'd seize the media first, but this is a great idea overall.

Posted by: trev006 at November 07, 2018 06:22 PM (6rFB/)

221 161 nurse ratched


waves at nurse from across the sound.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 07, 2018 06:15 PM (LOq4H)

heya, rat! gomma be a beautiful sunset! almost glad the dems took the HOR. otherwise downtown would still be on fire.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 07, 2018 06:22 PM (d7Ww2)

222 213 if ace transitioned from age 29 to 69 he could retire and draw Social Security
Posted by: x at November 07, 2018 06:21 PM (nFwvY)

Hell if I transitioned to 67.5 I could avoid thE 25% CUT COMING!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (JFO2v)

223 213 if ace transitioned from age 29 to 69 he could retire and draw Social Security
Posted by: x at November 07, 2018 06:21 PM (nFwvY)


If he transitioned to illegal alien, he could get that pause Meidcaid, Food Stamps, Section 8 housing, in-state tuition...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (/9p9e)

224 The only way to halt it is a) martial law and the outlawing of the Left
and b) seizure of every school and university, the sacking of all the
professoriate and complete control of the curriculum. Forever.


There is another way. We gave it a try in the 1860's.
God help us if it comes to that. Antietam will look like a spirited rugby match.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (LL1Be)

225 Macon went something like 65 percent for Abrams. I really don't care to much for those f'rs.

Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (UdKB7)

226 Is it a stabbing if the hole pre-exists?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (/9p9e)

----

Shit... that's a out of pocket cost. Does it apply to my deductible?

Posted by: BluesFish at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (AWiKl)

227 Loved GPOTUSE kicking press to the curb today. Ameesh is a racist. Bwahhhhs.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (b+Fr8)

228 In respect to our posters who are Mormons could we please just consider not calling their ceremonial garb "magic underwear"? You can dislike Romney all you want, but every faith tradition has things in it that people not in that faith tradition consider strange and odd. It's irrelevant as To Romney's politics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (AllCR)

229 tony evers is like the dog that caught the car. now what? the people of wisconsin will pay. and pay dearly. tax the fuck out of us. that will fix it.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (KP5rU)

230 I can't believe that we still have to argue for the pro-life position in the Republican Party. I mean, my grandpa helped lead the charge for it back in the 70s! Trump was supposedly less pro-life than W, and yet he's racking up far more wins on the issue. Yet again, Trump is ripping off the masks of our "betters."
Posted by: pookysgirl at November 07, 2018 06:19 PM (XKZwp)
+++++++++
Trump might well be in real life/his personal opinion. That has been floated many times. I have no idea. Also, I don't care.
He campaigned as pro-life and he is pursuing that agenda with more vigor than anyone we have elected recently. Whether he truly believes it or not is between him and G_d but he's doing right where it counts.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (I2dne)

231 Supposedly there are 1 million mail in votes to count in AZ and it will be next week till we find out we lost, i mean who won

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2018 06:07 PM (O2RFr)




HEY, I'M WRITING AS FAST AS I CAN.

Posted by: Trunk Voter at November 07, 2018 06:24 PM (TSEbs)

232 212 Excuse me, I'm an ignorant provincial and do not understand why I should give consideration to what J. Goldberg thinks

One of the joys of being 29 is if people hate me for my political views, tough shit, "where in your brain can I set up my cot?"

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 07, 2018 06:24 PM (LOq4H)

233 218 Dems are putting on a full court press to steal FL and AZ.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:22 PM (QBoRM)


New AG should step in. Can he? If we have Republicans as Secretaries of State, they should put the hammer down on this at once.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:24 PM (/9p9e)

234 GOD HAS THE PLAN AND ALL OF US ARE JUST THE TOOLS THROUGH WHICH HE WORKS, WHEN I SMASH A MAN CUNT IT I STHE LORDS FIST THAT ACTS AS MINE. I TAKE NO PLEASURE IN MY WORK IT IS JUST THE GOID WORK OF THE KORD AMEN BROTHER HERK

Posted by: Based Herk at November 07, 2018 06:24 PM (xd7ll)

235 Another thing Pat Toomey said was the tax cuts received no points in polling, he said Democrats, give them kudos, turned that info to their bonus lying it only served the rich.
Posted by: Skip

_________

Did a single Republican run on Democrats opposing the tax cuts?

I mean, one would think this would be more tangible than their precious, pre-existing conditions.

Most of the GOP ads I saw were run on gaffes and Democrats to their credit at least ran on policy. Shitty policy, but policies

I honestly think Trump won because he did run on Silent Majority issues like immigration and trade. People could ignore what they thought about say the Access Hollywood tape.

Posted by: Blago at November 07, 2018 06:24 PM (Wffd2)

236 Was talking to a co-worker today, his wife is a Republican judge elector for a county. He says as far as he can tell write ins get counted by hand and tallies sent up. I was telling him I had no faith in write ins, still don't.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:24 PM (T4oHT)

237 if ace transitioned from age 29 to 69 he could retire and draw Social Security
Posted by: x at November 07, 2018 06:21 PM (nFwvY)


Ewoks age at faster rate so, his 29 is like ....human 89

Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 06:24 PM (bUjCl)

238 Trouble with that is that argument is that they really aren't any longer actually our leaders. And the biggest trouble with them is they are unable to accept that fact.

Really, if they were leaders, they would have significant numbers of followers. And they don't. They are in the same state as the Pravda media; they feel it's slipped away from them, but they don't understand why. That leaves them both scared and frightened.

But unlike the liberals, the pussycons don't really have much remaining influence. Which makes sense, because they never had much.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at November 07, 2018 06:25 PM (59GGI)

239 Posted by: Based Herk at November 07, 2018 06:24 PM (xd7ll)

What a weird, shouty sock!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:25 PM (AllCR)

240 Finally get rid of Paul Ryan and f'ing Romney shows up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 07, 2018 06:25 PM (r+sAi)

241 holy granolabars ! thats' a ton of caps !!!

Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 06:25 PM (bUjCl)

242 217: I agree. God will not stop a chosen demise.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 07, 2018 06:25 PM (KP5rU)

243 You can dislike Romney all you want, but every faith tradition has things in it that people not in that faith tradition consider strange and odd. It's irrelevant as To Romney's politics.

I agree. Enough sneering at people who are generally allies at the very least. I find Mormonism false and wrong but they're usually really good neighbors and citizens.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2018 06:25 PM (39g3+)

244 217
but God is in charge, and He will see it through for us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (39g3+)



I see it as the old JFK phrase, "when on earth, God's work must truly be our own."

Now, when (if) we get to the Pearly Gates, God will look at us individually and say something like, "Dude! C'mon! You actually voted for Romney? You are my child and I love you, but I thought I gave you more common sense than that!"


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 07, 2018 06:25 PM (UsCnO)

245 Local news says it is not possible for Abrams to get enough votes to force a runoff or recount. Yay.
Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (UdKB7)

---#--------------

Didn't Deal already declare Kemp the winner?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (I16G8)

246 chavez - you are my pot of gold at the end of a really crappy rainbow

Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (lwiT4)

247 224 There is another way. We gave it a try in the 1860's.
God help us if it comes to that. Antietam will look like a spirited rugby match.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (LL1Be)


You assume both sides are equally matched. I would doubt it. Then again, if Soros/Steyer/Bloomberg spent money on arms caches instead of elections, we'd be in deep shit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (/9p9e)

248 God is in charge, and He will see it through for us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

__________

God is always in charge, but that doesn't mean it's always a good outcome here on Earth.

Posted by: Blago at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (Wffd2)

249 Kreplach, I've been present for innumerable conversations where religious conservatives disavow the traditional prohibition on homosexuality and claim they cannot possibly pass judgment on gay marriage (though they don't seem to have a problem judging everything else under the sun). The Supreme Court spared conservatives the embarassment of defending their beliefs. Conservatives don't let Row v Wade silence them about abortion. But opposition, even rhetorical opposition, to gay marriage disappeared overnight after that was decided.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (H5knJ)

250 heya, rat! gomma be a beautiful sunset! almost glad the dems took the HOR. otherwise downtown would still be on fire.


Told the grown up kids "we can watch Seattle burn from the park."

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (LOq4H)

251 So did McSally win?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (Zvj7s)

252 Finally get rid of Paul Ryan and f'ing Romney shows up.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 07, 2018 06:25 PM (r+sAi)


Ironic, innit?

Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:27 PM (lwiT4)

253 I don't think the Dems can steal FL. AZ I would believe.

Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:27 PM (agW01)

254 Milwaukee reconstructed unreadabl ballots
The only way to halt it is a) martial law and the outlawing of the Left
and b) seizure of every school and university, the sacking of all the
professoriate and complete control of the curriculum.
Forever.
**********

There is another way. We gave it a try in the 1860's.
God help us if it comes to that. Antietam will look like a spirited rugby match.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (LL1Be)




Occasio Cortez and the new crew are going to help reconstruct the Dem party.

It will be a thing to watch.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 07, 2018 06:27 PM (TSEbs)

255 206 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (/9p9e)


Well, that's depressing. I saw it differently, but if this is what people believe, I've gotta re-examine some stuff.

Dark and twisty and depressed.

Posted by: Dark and cloudy with a chance of meatballs at November 07, 2018 06:27 PM (sLvAU)

256 No, he was just a speed bump, slowing things down slightly. That's all he ever has been. We aren't voting our way out of this, but God is in charge, and He will see it through for us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2018 06:18 PM (39g3+)

or burn this muthat fukr down!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:27 PM (JFO2v)

257 I don't care what kind of underwear Mittens wears the guy is nothing but trouble. If being a Mormon makes him act the way he does then phooey on em.

Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:27 PM (UdKB7)

258 thanks, grammie.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (KP5rU)

259 I would think each state has to sort out election results, the Florida hanging chad debacle got up to federal courts when Florida Democrats couldn't get what they wanted.
Least that's how I remember it.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (T4oHT)

260 Ace: Its a cultural thing, in two respects.
1) These "elitists" are generally not salt-of-the-earth people. They're fairly intelligent (although not the brightest), live in the upper-middle-class and went to fancy universities. Culturally, they weren't raised with guns. They're not religious (or, if they have cultural attachments to religion, aren't devout), and have learned to live in their social strata, which is otherwise very, very liberal.
2) They have chosen a career path where they are further surrounded by liberals. They've been the odd person out, because the distinctions they make from liberal philosophy are unacceptable in that space. But they still live and eat there, with their economic peers. Socially, they can't (and wouldn't) adopt "firebrand" political positions -- that would put them out of the mainstream. Keeping in the mainstream is how they get a (modicum) of respect in their social circles.
This is the Republican intelligencia because the salt-of-the-earth people who didn't go to fancy universities, who have more common sense and critical thinking skills and who want results on their "firebrand" political positions are no-where near the centers of cultural power. They will not be let in.
They are barbarians. Or, if you want, deplorable.

Posted by: Revenant at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (sryxB)

261 Wouldn't it be nice if someone made Romney Ambassador to France ? He speaks French you know. Or was it some other dude with good hair ?

Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (bUjCl)

262 Romney butting in to the Sessionzzz resignation situation. What an ass less that 24 hours after he was elected.. Hey Romney did you pay your taxes BOO...

Posted by: Vin the Chin at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (ICWiF)

263
Heard on radio the Jim Acosta clip, he got a Purple Heart from the ass reaming he got today
Posted by: Skip


Something was purple but not sure about his heart.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (aKsyK)

264 Did Orrin Hatch endorse Romney?

Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (agW01)

265 74 - I used to feel like I was on the same page as Ace ideologically, until Trump came along. Yes, I'm old school fiscally conservative and socially liberal, with the exception of abortion. I'm not a "never Trumper" but I'm not a fan either. All alone, I'm so all alone.............

Posted by: Mary at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (cOMI0)

266 I will forever loathe having to hold my nose and vote for McCain, then Romney.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2018 06:17 PM (ptqGC)

The heart attack/Palin ticket was 10% jest. And 90% hope.

Posted by: Sjg at November 07, 2018 06:29 PM (gDSJf)

267 I'm waiting for the lawsuit that says that the green party votes ought to be counted for the den.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 07, 2018 06:29 PM (aQSh6)

268 Well that didn't take long, fucking Romney is saying the Mueller investigation must be protected and allowed to continue to its conclusion.
I denounce myself for voting for that fraud in 2012.


Riiiight on time. Right out of the gate. McCain 2.0

Posted by: Max Power at November 07, 2018 06:29 PM (q177U)

269 Occasio Cortez and the new crew are going to help reconstruct the Dem party.

It will be a thing to watch.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 07, 2018 06:27 PM (TSEbs)

I cannot wait until tampon shelf at Walmart has TP and roll ur own instructions

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:29 PM (JFO2v)

270 You mad, Bro?

Come at me, Bro!

Posted by: Jim Acosta at November 07, 2018 06:29 PM (Z9C5C)

271 Fuck Romney

Fuck West Virginia

Fuck Jonah

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:29 PM (QBoRM)

272 Kreplach, I've been present for innumerable
conversations where religious conservatives disavow the traditional
prohibition on homosexuality and claim they cannot possibly pass
judgment on gay marriage (though they don't seem to have a problem
judging everything else under the sun). The Supreme Court spared
conservatives the embarassment of defending their beliefs. Conservatives
don't let Row v Wade silence them about abortion. But opposition, even
rhetorical opposition, to gay marriage disappeared overnight after that
was decided.


Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM

---

Probably because gay marriage didn't involve butchering innocent babies......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2018 06:29 PM (JUOKG)

273 255 206 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:20 PM (/9p9e)


Well, that's depressing. I saw it differently, but if this is what people believe, I've gotta re-examine some stuff.

Dark and twisty and depressed.
Posted by: Dark and cloudy with a chance of meatballs at November 07, 2018 06:27 PM (sLvAU)



Look, I am an optimist by nature. But I'm not getting any younger and the past 2-3 generations of youths have been utterly brainwashed. When Tank Abrams, Gillum and Loopy Fiasco are seen as superstars, we are really in for a world of hurt. Trump or no Trump.

That is a reality that is only going to get worse from here, no matter who is winning elections.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:30 PM (/9p9e)

274 Did they just find a county or precinct that wasn't counted in Florida?

Posted by: redridinghood at November 07, 2018 06:30 PM (hECVl)

275

228 In respect to our posters who are Mormons could we please just consider not calling their ceremonial garb "magic underwear"?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke


No.

Fun is fun, and "magic underwear" is pretty fucking innocuous. It's at least as good as "two fan belts and a napkin."

BTW, aren't you supposed to stop calling them Mormons now and refer to them as "members of the Church of Jesus Christ of bla bla bla....."? Us mackerel snappers with all the kiddie diddler priests want to know.

Posted by: imp at November 07, 2018 06:30 PM (w+Z9D)

276 'Didn't Deal already declare Kemp the winner?'

If he did the local "news" failed to say that.

Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:30 PM (UdKB7)

277 Anna - might be a week until Arizona gets called, McSally is up 13,000 last I heard

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:30 PM (T4oHT)

278 You mad, Bro?

Come at me, Bro!
Posted by: Jim Acosta


*double smacks Acoster

Shut up

Posted by: runner at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (bUjCl)

279 271; that's alot of fucking. best get busy, my friend. wear a condom in west virginia. unless, death becomes you.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (KP5rU)

280 Well that didn't take long, fucking Romney is saying the Mueller investigation must be protected and allowed to continue to its conclusion.
I denounce myself for voting for that fraud in 2012.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at November 07, 2018 06:10 PM (7A6l6)



With those white "Bride of Frankenstein" hair stripes on the sides of his head,

I just wish Rombley would stop talking and simply

hiss frantically any time he has something to say.


It's make more sense and be more honest.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (9X624)

281 Did Orrin Hatch endorse Romney?
Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (agW01)

Yes.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (P+H3W)

282 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (/9p9e)

Yeah, but you also have to know how to use those Steyr weapons. And the Left does not.

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (kiSdp)

283 @228 In respect to our posters who are Mormons could we please just consider not calling their ceremonial garb "magic underwear"?
---------------

A strain of anti-Mormonism seems to be creeping back out again. Last week (I think; might have been two weeks ago) Instapundit put up a quick post about the Mormon Extermination Order in Missouri. The comments section was basically filled with stuff that went along the lines of, "Yeah, the Extermination Order wasn't nice, but..."

Posted by: junior at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (6qIUH)

284
Well, that is the big question. Is Trump a harbinger of a renaissance or merely a glorious temporary anomaly on the inevitable, irresistible slide towards the end of the republic as founded?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton


If "demography is destiny" then he is merely a speed bump.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (aKsyK)

285 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy who shouts "En fuego!" at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (ctuyM)

286 If only Acosta had shouted out, "I PAID FOR THIS MICROPHONE!"

that would have been perfection.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (BRvh1)

287 260 Ace: Its a cultural thing, in two respects.
1) These "elitists" are generally not salt-of-the-earth people. They're fairly intelligent (although not the brightest), live in the upper-middle-class and went to fancy universities. Culturally, they weren't raised with guns. They're not religious (or, if they have cultural attachments to religion, aren't devout), and have learned to live in their social strata, which is otherwise very, very liberal.
2) They have chosen a career path where they are further surrounded by liberals. They've been the odd person out, because the distinctions they make from liberal philosophy are unacceptable in that space. But they still live and eat there, with their economic peers. Socially, they can't (and wouldn't) adopt "firebrand" political positions -- that would put them out of the mainstream. Keeping in the mainstream is how they get a (modicum) of respect in their social circles.
This is the Republican intelligencia because the salt-of-the-earth people who didn't go to fancy universities, who have more common sense and critical thinking skills and who want results on their "firebrand" political positions are no-where near the centers of cultural power. They will not be let in.
They are barbarians. Or, if you want, deplorable.

Posted by: Revenant at November 07, 2018 06:28 PM (sryxB)

Yeah that and Elites are government employees retired and working that get crazy salaries, benefits and retirement.. Rush was saying today they messed up liberal states and are now retiring to states with no income tax..

Posted by: Vin the Chin at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (ICWiF)

288 282 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (/9p9e)

Yeah, but you also have to know how to use those Steyr weapons. And the Left does not.
Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (kiSdp)


MS-13, Bloods and Crips are there in droves to instruct.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (/9p9e)

289 >>> And I started to wonder: Why don't the social liberals forthrightly state that they're social liberals on this or that policy, so that people like Dana Loesch are not deceived into believing they represent a majority position?

She effed up, she trusted us!!!

Posted by: Social Liberal Nevertrumpers at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (hvf9s)

290 Really, Ace? Pro-choice? How can any conservative with an ounce of brains be squishy on something so horrific? Either human life has intrinsic value, or it doesn't. If you are OK with ending a person's existence in the womb, regardless of awareness or pain, then you must also be OK with straight up murder. There is no difference.

Posted by: gshock at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (A6UBX)

291 ITS FUNNY BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO TYPE ALL CAPS ARE USUALLY INSANE!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (gC2IV)

292 The Romney vs McConnell wars are going to be interesting..

Posted by: IC at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (a0IVu)

293 'Finally get rid of Paul Ryan and f'ing Romney shows up'

I know right. It's like tag team cuckfighting.

Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (UdKB7)

294 Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:27 PM (UdKB7)

I think Romney is just a never Trumper or close to that. I don't think his faith has anything to do with his attitude towards Trump. But we have nice, thoughtful posters here who embrace The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I expect they may not care for Romney either but since they or their loved ones probably wear the ceremonial underclothes can we just knock of what that term?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (AllCR)

295 I will never forgive myself for voting for McCain. I've been around Washington long enough to have heard a lot of the less than ethical lapses he had. My lasting image will be of him high-fiving Chuck Schumer after he killed healthcare reform for the entire country just to get back at Trump. It is perhaps the most selfish thing I have ever seen a person do- and that's saying a lot. It was the ultimate betrayal of good faith.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2018 06:33 PM (wJ+c3)

296 Mueller has almost concluded I believe,so let him get his bulkshit report out and get it over with.

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2018 06:33 PM (BXMxN)

297 291 ITS FUNNY BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO TYPE ALL CAPS ARE USUALLY INSANE!

NO I'M NOT !

Posted by: CHER! at November 07, 2018 06:33 PM (O2RFr)

298 @224 There is another way. We gave it a try in the 1860's.
God help us if it comes to that. Antietam will look like a spirited rugby match.
------------

Larry Correia put up a post about the possibility on his blog early last year. As he noted, if it comes to that then the country will be effectively destroyed regardless of which side "wins".

Posted by: junior at November 07, 2018 06:33 PM (6qIUH)

299 romney trying to look like paulie walnuts. mitt, you're no paulie walnuts. dipshit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 07, 2018 06:33 PM (KP5rU)

300 228 In respect to our posters who are Mormons could we please just consider not calling their ceremonial garb "magic underwear"? You can dislike Romney all you want, but every faith tradition has things in it that people not in that faith tradition consider strange and odd. It's irrelevant as To Romney's politics.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (AllCR)

wizard panties
echanchanted calvins
sorcerer drawers
necromancer depends

help!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:34 PM (JFO2v)

301 There are not 2 POLITICAL PARTY'S. For the most part (except for a few individuals) IT is only 1 party- the ELITE UNIPARTY. It's all Kabuki theater for us deplorables so they don't get yanked out of those cushy offices and hung from the nearest lamp post.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at November 07, 2018 06:34 PM (JItMV)

302 228 In respect to our posters who are Mormons . . . .

FenelonSpoke

.....

Except for Mcromneyturd, I am in the respect camp. Best mates I had in boot were Mormon.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:34 PM (b+Fr8)

303 On AZ, my understanding is the ballots outstanding are mail in ones that people dropped off at the polling location the day of.

Since you can't mail in a ballot on Election Day, this is the only way to process it.

It's a stupid process and why early voting needs to go

No idea how this breaks, but there are ballot harvesting laws in AZ (so no trunks full of ballots) Only individuals

Posted by: Blago at November 07, 2018 06:34 PM (Wffd2)

304

I'll beat any 105 lb. woman right here, right now in the Octagon.

Any. 105. lb. woman!!!!


That's right, bitchez!

Now...

Who's first?

Posted by: Jim Acosta at November 07, 2018 06:34 PM (9X624)

305 It's been discussed here, and we may be seeing it play out.

The professional politician wings of the two parties uniting against the bases of the parties, to form a 'party' larger and more powerful than the two bases.



Posted by: davidt at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (mU726)

306 You assume both sides are equally matched. I would doubt it. Then again, if Soros/Steyer/Bloomberg spent money on arms caches instead of elections, we'd be in deep shit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:26 PM (/9p9e)




You live in the wrong city county state - region.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (TSEbs)

307 Yeah, but you also have to know how to use those Steyr weapons. And the Left does not.
Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM


WLNSSEODQY.

Posted by: Winston Wolf at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (ctuyM)

308
If "demography is destiny" then he is merely a speed bump.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2018 06:31 PM (aKsyK)

Was thinking it is Gods will that the South Americans inhabit the land.. Many of them are Christian believers similar to some colonists..??

Posted by: Vin the Chin at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (ICWiF)

309 @296 Mueller has almost concluded I believe,so let him get his bulkshit report out and get it over with.
--------------

Yeah. A month or two ago he said that he expected to have his final report out shortly after the election.

Posted by: junior at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (6qIUH)

310 I will never forgive myself for voting for McCain.

I voted for Sarah Palin.
I voted against Obama.



So help me God, I will sit on my hands and watch President-Elect Elizabeth Warren win by a single vote if Romney runs again.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (LL1Be)

311 'I think Romney is just a never Trumper'

He hates Trump with the white-hot intensity of ten thousand burning suns--Trump completely humiliated him two years ago.

First chance he gets to play the role of Brutus he will take it.

Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (agW01)

312 I reserve the right to feel disdain and express derision towards any faith on the planet, and any members of that faith.

I don't really give a shit one way or another about Mormons, but let's face it: They're weird. Most are delightfully weird, some are just assholes, but whatever. The more the merrier.

But I still reserve the right to "hate" anyone I chose to, for any reason.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (BRvh1)

313 That is a reality that is only going to get worse from here, no matter who is winning elections.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:30 PM (/9p9e)


So, what are we doing here? Just watching things unravel and discussing them? I don't mean that sarcastically or rhetorically. I mean, are we just watching it burn. This is my fault for having different expectations, so I'm trying to get my head on straight.

Posted by: Dark and cloudy with a chance of meatballs at November 07, 2018 06:36 PM (sLvAU)

314 CHER HAS HAD SO MANY FACE LIFTS HER EARS NOW TOUCH BEHIND HER HEAD! LOOKS LIKE A FLESHY PONY TAIL!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at November 07, 2018 06:36 PM (gC2IV)

315 MS-13, Bloods and Crips are there in droves to instruct.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (/9p9e)

No they won't. They will wait to see who wins. And we have 1/2Billion arms in private hands. None of mine fell out of my canoe, either.

Posted by: clutch at November 07, 2018 06:36 PM (kiSdp)

316 So help me God, I will sit on my hands and watch President-Elect Elizabeth Warren win by a single vote if Romney runs again.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (LL1Be)

This.

At a certain point, they're not our party anymore.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:37 PM (BRvh1)

317 There is another way. We gave it a try in the 1860's.
God help us if it comes to that. Antietam will look like a spirited rugby match.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:23 PM (LL1Be)

---
Civil War 2.0 will look more like the MOVE firefight in Philly 1985.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 07, 2018 06:37 PM (AWiKl)

318 romney's religion has no bearing on my disgust for that shitheel. i had no idea he was a mormon. never cared. just knew he was a smarmy asshole.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 07, 2018 06:37 PM (KP5rU)

319 Interesting for historical comparison. Real Clear Politics Generic Congressional Poll average gave the Dems a final 7.5 point lead in 2018 - that will yield them a not very large 229 seat majority.

In the 2014 RCP GC Poll final average was 2.5 points in favor of the GOP and they ended with 247 seats.

I knew if the average remained over 6 that the House would likely turnover (not much final week tightening (when reputations of polling firms are on the line) as I'd hope for) .

In 2006, the last time the Dems took it back from the GOP they had a massive 11.5 CG Poll point average lead and that netted them 233 seats.

So going forward , it appears that there is a +6 or so bias for the Donkeys, which is understandable when you consider the strong D districts are in the 75-80 % majority while the strong R districts are in the 60% or so majority, which skews the sample quite a bit.

Overall, the polling on the tossups in RCP house races were impressively accurate for the most part with a few outliers.


Posted by: theATL at November 07, 2018 06:37 PM (r725l)

320 I have thought for sometime Mueller was just laying groundwork for exactly this scenario, Democrats took the House and will expand on anything Mueller found.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:37 PM (T4oHT)

321 Mr. President:

Please find attached, my resignation. I regret that you have been unable to grasp the significance and reach of my actio..... zzzzzzzzzzz...

*mmph* Oh, where was I? Oh, yes, I very much regret that you...zzzzzzzzz....

*mmph* Uh, ah...rule of law, bipartisanship, collegiality...zzzzzzz....

Best Regards,
Jeff Sessio...zzzzzz

Posted by: Observation at November 07, 2018 06:37 PM (/dN1M)

322 @311
That doesn't sound very Christian of him?
Oh that's right he's a mormon.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 07, 2018 06:38 PM (qxq6t)

323 OT Check this out from September

http://vaonlinenews.com/sessions-aide-a-trump
-loyalist-is-seen-as-ascendant-amid-rosenstein-chaos/

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at November 07, 2018 06:38 PM (dMvl+)

324 Billy Kristol commented on the election : "I guess demography is destiny". I flipped out on him, he's been advocating open borders while pushing the idea these imports will eventually come around to the Republicans. He's trash.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 07, 2018 06:38 PM (P1AAi)

325

Anyone have pics of Dana Perino's bearded clam?

Posted by: Cock Curious Cuck Cruise Captain Crystol at November 07, 2018 06:38 PM (flOBQ)

326 'So, what are we doing here? '

I don't know about you but I'm just hanging out waiting for the day plan X goes live.

Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:38 PM (UdKB7)

327 Let's hear it for more pre existing conditions!!

Yes, oh please let's have 2 years of pelosi.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (dNzKv)

328 I have thought for sometime Mueller was just laying groundwork for exactly this scenario, Democrats took the House and will expand on anything Mueller found.
Posted by: Skip
----------------
Delay, delay, delay. While Sessions slept.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (/dN1M)

329 Probably because gay marriage didn't involve butchering innocent babies......

The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2018 06:29 PM (JUOKG)

There aren't many reasons why one should be purged from the GOP, but this is definitely one of them.

Country Boy - out of exile at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (D2vc1)

.......

Pretty sure our God gives not a crap about what we do with our parts and who we love. Don't invite the goverment or the church to your wedding and problem solved.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (b+Fr8)

330 I'm ashamed of having bought Jonah Goldberg's books.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (kUrNA)

331 Thanks Fenelon and Chris. Hopefully I missed the worst of Mormon bashing if there was some, not going upthread to check it out.

Schumer is terrible and Ben Shapiro is nevertrumper-curious. But I'd never make fun of them being Jewish or the yarmulke Ben wears all the time. Plenty of ways to make fun of them without resorting to that.

Posted by: LizLem at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (hvf9s)

332


290 Really, Ace? Pro-choice? How can any conservative with an ounce of brains be squishy on something so horrific? Either human life has intrinsic value, or it doesn't. If you are OK with ending a person's existence in the womb, regardless of awareness or pain, then you must also be OK with straight up murder. There is no difference.

Posted by: gshock


Alternatively, many sentient, rational individuals do not feel that human life is "sacred." While I do, it is hardly beyond the bounds of conceptual thought that a blastocyst or the like is not due the same legal protections afforded to independent, viable life.

Conceptually, sure, but we don't live in a conceptual world, which is why libertarianism and communism don't work.

ace did say with limitations, and as I recall his positions, viability and pain awareness might qualify as those boundaries.

In any event, this is the attitude that makes political coalitions impossible on the right. Yes, you (and I, to be honest) want no abortions, or only in the most limited of circumstances (even the Church allows them to save the physical life of the mother, in cases like ectopic pregnancies, etc.), but there has never been a political majority ever around that. So is t better to take what you can get from so-called squishes (a 20 week ban), or better to shout HEATHEN! at them and screech until they leave the party?

Posted by: imp at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (w+Z9D)

333 "Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:30 PM (/9p9e)"

California is about to get it good and hard, as are we in NY with the legislature change. Some real life lessons for people who actually work for a living and want to do better for their families is in order. Maybe people learn. Maybe not. But places like Connecticut are losing their tax base, and California has no middle class left. At some point you realize what these people are preaching is a big lie. Unfortunately that may be when you are sleeping in a cardboard box or dodging Molotov cocktails in Times Square. Some people, especially true believers who make up the dupe army, don't get it until the wheels come off.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (wJ+c3)

334 Also have the feeling everything Mueller has will be let out to the media, Schiffless will make sure of it.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (T4oHT)

335 I have decided that I am not in favor of deportation of illegal aliens, or rather, not in favor of it as a first resort. I'm thinking 5 years at hard labor building their own detention facilities, and then deported with the warning that next time, it's 10 years.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (yQpMk)

336 ace wrote a screedy little screed about Cuccinelli and muh blowjobs. He picked up the liberal cudgel against the Cooch and he wielded it against those of us who supported the Republican candidate against Terry McAuliffe.

I suggest sitting down with Goldberg and reminiscing and then trying to get his worm to turn.

Posted by: blaster at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (VhKw6)

337 So, what are we doing here? Just watching things unravel and discussing them? I don't mean that sarcastically or rhetorically. I mean, are we just watching it burn. This is my fault for having different expectations, so I'm trying to get my head on straight.
Posted by: Dark and cloudy with a chance of meatballs at November 07, 2018 06:36 PM (sLvAU)

Conservative resistance must begin now, not when Trump is gone. We need to organize NOW. And find ways to terrorize democrats now, not later.

Posted by: Country Boy - out of exile at November 07, 2018 06:40 PM (LOwpT)

338 Mitt Romney is a JACK ASS.

Posted by: Just Cause at November 07, 2018 06:40 PM (TSEbs)

339 326 'So, what are we doing here? '

I don't know about you but I'm just hanging out waiting for the day plan X goes live.
Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:38 PM (UdKB7)

I would still come here for art and pets and food. But if the consensus is it is gonna burn, why am I discussing it. Just makes it more painful, no?

Posted by: Dark and cloudy with a chance of meatballs at November 07, 2018 06:41 PM (sLvAU)

340 That is a reality that is only going to get worse from here, no matter who is winning elections.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:30 PM (/9p9e)
---
this is sinking in, especially today

Posted by: the Butcher at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (DIosY)

341 Hmmm, I think I just heard a true-con state that if Trump had just asked for Comey's resignation the Mueller probe would have never happened.

Or he was a flaming libertine progtard. Cannot tell the difference without a programme.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (1g7ch)

342 Follow the money, they are just whores for the Google/Facebook money. Nothing more.

Posted by: Jean at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (sFO1P)

343 I know right. It's like tag team cuckfighting.
Posted by: freaked at November 07, 2018 06:32 PM (UdKB7)

Saw Tag Team Cuckfight go against The Road Warriors at the Garden in 85 Was awesome..

Posted by: Vin the Chin at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (ICWiF)

344 Thats only the M.S. Media version these a total fakers

Posted by: Tamaa the Bird 1000 Voices at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (wGqjj)

345 Went into a client's building today for some meetings and passed a trio of middle aged black women talking about Abrams and how she was robbed of the election.

This is not in GA.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (QBoRM)

346 @334
There is nothing to let out, if there was it would have been let out already.

Mueller has got nothing except manufactured bullshit and forced guilty pleas from squeezing his targets.
Man should rot in hell for the things he has done.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (qxq6t)

347 Pretty sure our God gives not a crap about what we do with our parts and who we love. Don't invite the goverment or the church to your wedding and problem solved.
Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (b+Fr

You're obviously not paying attention then.

Posted by: Country Boy - out of exile at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (LOwpT)

348 Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (BRvh1)

Nobody's saying that you can't "feelz" whatever you want to or have theological opinions. I'm saying in the interest of unity with other posters on the conservative side maybe people could just choose not to use that term. as I expect people wouldn't like it if disparging remarks were made about things whjich Protestants and Catholics disagree on. This isn't a theological thread debate. It's about Romney's duplicity and I expect whatever he wears next to his body is iireevant .


But we can have flame wars on faith traditions thus doing the work of the left which would be delighted if we slander and insult each other.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (AllCR)

349
NO I'M NOT !
Posted by: CHER!


If I could turn back time I'd convince you to go skiing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (aKsyK)

350 I have thought for sometime Mueller was just laying groundwork for exactly this scenario, Democrats took the House and will expand on anything Mueller found.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:37 PM (T4oHT)



As usual, the Socialist Democrats have been planning ahead, while AG Sessionzzz...

Posted by: RINONC Chairman Hrothgar at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (n9EOP)

351
I have thought for sometime Mueller was just laying groundwork for
exactly this scenario, Democrats took the House and will expand on
anything Mueller found.


Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:37 PM

---

The problem with that scenario is that Trump has all of the unredacted FISA warrants and supporting documents proving that obama used our Allies to spy on Trump. They are dangling like the Sword of Damoclese over the democrats heads as we speak.


He has already hinted today that they won't like the results if they go all in for impeachment.


pelosi et. al. already know what is in those documents so we will see after January 21st how they deal with their new found power.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2018 06:43 PM (JUOKG)

352 Trust us, Mitt Romney is an asshole.

Posted by: Staples at November 07, 2018 06:43 PM (gC2IV)

353 Anyone have pics of Dana Perino's bearded clam?
Posted by: Cock Curious Cuck Cruise Captain Crystol at November 07, 2018 06:38 PM


In my hippocampus.

Posted by: Jasper at November 07, 2018 06:43 PM (ctuyM)

354 Went into a client's building today for some meetings and passed a trio of middle aged black women talking about Abrams and how she was robbed of the election.

This is not in GA.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker

Has Abrams come out yet and declared the vote tally racist? I wish that I was kidding.

Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (oiNtH)

355 Assuming this shit devolves into civil war 2.0 what would be 'the shot heard round the world'.. askin for a friend

Posted by: Vin the Chin at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (ICWiF)

356 There is another way. We gave it a try in the 1860's.
God help us if it comes to that. Antietam will look like a spirited rugby match.
------------

Larry Correia put up a post about the possibility on his blog early last year. As he noted, if it comes to that then the country will be effectively destroyed regardless of which side "wins".
Posted by: junior


The Republic of Texas - I kinda like that sound.
Posted by: John Wayne

Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (3W5cQ)

357 That is a reality that is only going to get worse from here, no matter who is winning elections.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:30 PM (/9p9e)

___

I say that to my wife a lot and her reply to me is basically "chill out everyone has been saying that forever, thinking the next generation is going to fuck their shit up". And she's kinda right.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (QBoRM)

358 Haven't been to any of my usual websites today but here since I got home.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (T4oHT)

359 337

See, that's what I thought we were doing here. But after the ONT and JJ, I realize that is not true. Totally thrown for a loop. Boy, I'm an idiot.

Posted by: Dark and cloudy with a chance of meatballs at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (sLvAU)

360 California is about to get it good and hard, as are we in NY with the legislature change. Some real life lessons for people who actually work for a living and want to do better for their families is in order. Maybe people learn. Maybe not. But places like Connecticut are losing their tax base, and California has no middle class left. At some point you realize what these people are preaching is a big lie. Unfortunately that may be when you are sleeping in a cardboard box or dodging Molotov cocktails in Times Square. Some people, especially true believers who make up the dupe army, don't get it until the wheels come off.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (wJ+c3)

People have been leaving New York for decades. Look at their EV amount today and then look it up for say 1980.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (4ErVI)

361 Has Abrams come out yet and declared the vote tally racist? I wish that I was kidding.
Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (oiNtH)

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If you saw her speech last night, basically yeah she did. She sounded unhinged.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:45 PM (QBoRM)

362 I had to run away to do work things this afternoon, so sorry if I missed it. But have we talked about Maxine Waters crowing she will be the first black lady to head the finance committee? Because identity politics yay!

And yes she said that there will be payback. Lots of payback. Get ready for it. Winter is Coming.

(This overreach will of course benefit Trump.)

Posted by: LizLem at November 07, 2018 06:45 PM (hvf9s)

363
You're obviously not paying attention then.

Country Boy - out of exile at November 07, 2018 06:42 PM (LOwpT)

.....

Food fight!

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:45 PM (b+Fr8)

364 If we're not allowed to talk shit about the Mormons, then we're also not allowed to talk shit about Muzzies, or Catholics, or Scientologists, or Atheists, or anyone else. Only fair.

And if we're going to worry about shit talking against Mormons driving away Mormon Morons, then we better start caring about shit talking against Homosexuals driving away Homosexual Morons.

I ain't looking to be the speech police, or the anti-speech police, just pointing out the danger of being arbitrary on who we circle the wagons for.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:45 PM (BRvh1)

365 I say that to my wife a lot and her reply to me is basically "chill out everyone has been saying that forever, thinking the next generation is going to fuck their shit up". And she's kinda right.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (QBoRM)



Actually, every generation has been doing that...that's how we got here.

Posted by: Dark and cloudy with a chance of meatballs at November 07, 2018 06:45 PM (sLvAU)

366
From yesterday:

The NAACP of Georgia also won a lawsuit to keep two precincts near Morehouse and Spelman Colleges, both historically black institutions, open until 10 p.m.


@NAACP
BREAKING: Georgia NAACP wins a lawsuit, and voting times will be extended by three hours in two precincts near Spelman and Morehouse. Polls will now close at 10:00pm per court orders.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2018 06:45 PM (aKsyK)

367 Pretty sure our God gives not a crap about what we do with our parts and who we love. Don't invite the goverment or the church to your wedding and problem solved.
Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM



Elohim seems a bit pickier, what with all that an abomination before me and thou shalt not stuff.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 07, 2018 06:45 PM (yQpMk)

368 Smaug, you're the kinda guy who thinks they'll never put you on the trains. There's no middle ground on social issues. You think you'll be permitted to tolerate gay marriage. But you'll bake their cakes and toe the line in the workplace or your employment will be terminated. That's the future: compulsory acceptance.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 07, 2018 06:46 PM (H5knJ)

369 People have been leaving New York for decades. Look at their EV amount today and then look it up for say 1980.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (4ErVI)

__

And turning Florida, Georgia and NC into New York 2.0.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:46 PM (QBoRM)

370 Interesting. So many of those who vote for RINOs like Flake aren't bamboozled by him. They know what they are getting.

Which is odd. If leftists voting for Flake outnumbered 2:1 dumb conservatives who vote for whatever has "R" after its name, those leftists might as well have openly voted for the Democrat candidate, since they had the numbers.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 07, 2018 06:46 PM (/qEW2)

371 'That is a reality that is only going to get worse from here, no matter who is winning elections. '

It wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor...

Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:46 PM (agW01)

372 America for Americans.

If you can't agree with that?

Why are you here?



Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:46 PM (LL1Be)

373 I used to laugh at that Bocephus song about a country boy surviving. Good times.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 07, 2018 06:46 PM (xceTB)

374 I bet Sessions persuaded President Trump not to use any info or release it. Maybe a tougher AG will, I don't know.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:46 PM (T4oHT)

375 so Tapper is in the' shove woman around camp?'

Posted by: willow at November 07, 2018 06:47 PM (aSpXp)

376 Holy crap the skies just opened up here.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 07, 2018 06:47 PM (yQpMk)

377 What?

Her ears are like fans. When she lays down she uses one for a pillow and and with the other she covers herself.

Posted by: Just Cause at November 07, 2018 06:47 PM (TSEbs)

378 Again I didn't say you couldn't talk about any darn thing you want to. I think I was pretty temperate and quite clear in suggesting we consider not using the term "Magic Underwear" That is all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:47 PM (AllCR)

379 So help me God, I will sit on my hands and watch President-Elect Elizabeth Warren win by a single vote if Romney runs again.
Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:35 PM (LL1Be)

Even the Republican party isn't quite that stupid. At least I can only hope.

'08 was bad because it was McCain's "turn" to take a shot as the runner up to Bush and the media's favorite Republican. And I think most Republicans (not named Rove) knew it would be a battle with Bush's unpopularity towards the end.

'12 ended up with a free for all and a lot of poorly planned campaigns that lacked Romney's organization.

But there's never much support for someone who has already been branded a loser.

I'm honestly shocked Dems haven't been more proactive in quashing Clinton, but many are still invested in the fiction of the election being stolen by Russians or the EC or what have you.

Posted by: Sjg at November 07, 2018 06:47 PM (gDSJf)

380 How many more do dems have in the House to make them the majority? I haven't seen that number yet.

Posted by: Sooner at November 07, 2018 06:47 PM (v+nYP)

381 Food fight!
Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:45 PM (b+Fr

*ducks out*

Posted by: Country Boy - out of exile at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (LOwpT)

382 I appreciate as a hetero not atheistic dragon that this is an inclusive site. I suggest all who are not reconsider their position.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (b+Fr8)

383 This Todd Aiken deal that keeps getting referenced about real rape always omits two stories that were getting heavy play when it occurred.

1) a preacher's kid was being accused of rape years after the fact by a girl that was underage (as was he) at the time she said it occurred, and
2) another harridan was screeching about the fact she should be able to claim rape after having consensual sex and then later changing her mind because she felt she had been abused (re: victim!)

The second was the initiation of huge push by feminists to be able to claim rape anytime they felt like it. Whoopie blew it up with her "you mean rape-rape?" but Aiken was already toast by then.

Posted by: DanMan at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (QMG5F)

384 Someone needs to go get Iron Grampa.

He always pops in with inspiring words when the blog goes all emo with the doom and the gloom.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (jZQUe)

385 Conservative resistance must begin now, not when Trump is gone. We need to organize NOW. And find ways to terrorize democrats now, not later.
Posted by: Country Boy - out of exile at November 07, 2018 06:40 PM (LOwpT)

How YOU doin?

Posted by: Country Music at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (ICWiF)

386 On pro-life

It takes a one-two punch. These people are pro-abortion, and pro-government.

I am pro-life, and anti-government, so I think that abortion is morally wrong, but that a parent is the only one to make that choice, ... until it shows. Then the community is involved and I think about week 12 abortion (all abortion) should be illegal. The people Ace talks about are pro-abortion and not anti-government.

On Immigration, again it is a one-two punch.
I am culturally conservative, and economically literate. Hence, I am anti-immigration. I do not want to add to the welfare roles and social services payroll, and I understand that doing that will not magically balance the SSI deficit.

The people Ace talks about don't really care about the decay of our values of independence, self-defense, and responsibility, and the listen to asshats like kruuugman when he sells his pyramid snake oil.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (LWu6U)

387 Bertram, so Georgia has mail in ballots. early voting and that isn't enough?

Posted by: willow at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (aSpXp)

388 I'll beat any 105 lb. woman right here, right now in the Octagon.

Any. 105. lb. woman!!!!


That's right, bitchez!

Now...

Who's first?
Posted by: Jim Acosta at November 07, 2018 06:34 PM (9X6



Im here , you little pussy. Try to push MY arm away.

Posted by: LASue at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (XROPS)

389 OT

Love the sidebar with Star Trek TOS singing Camelot. Pure genius.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (/qEW2)

390 Pretty sure our God gives not a crap about what we do with our parts



Uh, there's a book about it. Some of it's even in stone.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:49 PM (lwiT4)

391 I say that to my wife a lot and her reply to me is basically "chill out everyone has been saying that forever, thinking the next generation is going to fuck their shit up". And she's kinda right.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (QBoRM)

Very true. Events happen, usually. God throws curve balls. He likes to do that. I think that's why we have baseball.

Also remember that the soy boy you see on tv or in that movie or in that advertisement has been selected to present a certain image by the civilization wreckers. They're not all like that. They did the same thing with the Boomers. You weren't seeing the guys who went to Vietnam, came home, built a life and a family, and worked hard to make America great. What you did see were the wreckers. The narcissists and the if it feels good, do it crowd. Those were the ones championed. There's a lot of country where MAGA America remains. And when the soil goes hard and fallow, there will be many left to bring it back to life.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 07, 2018 06:49 PM (4ErVI)

392 Something something the Enlightenment blah blah Rousseau yadda yadda Locke as my mentor Ben Wattenberg taught me, and therefore the task before us was to convince white Americans that the entire world shared the commitment of American culture to the rule of law and equality before the law and was not dominated by tribalism and therefore it was safe to open the borders and allow hundreds of millions from foreign cultures to pour across the border and by the time Americans realized their mistake the American nation-state would be dead as a door-nail and the tribes with the strongest global dimension and cohesion and timelessness and wealth and power and highest IQ will rule the new world order and will be free to arrange world affairs to their own taste and benefit. Oh, and David French will be the first I send to the gulag. He's so annoying!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at November 07, 2018 06:49 PM (DuAZ5)

393 'How many more do dems have in the House to make them the majority? I haven't seen that number yet.'

I thought they had 218?

I want to know the Senate number--with Tester winning and assuming GOP wins in AZ and FL, are we at 55?

Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:49 PM (agW01)

394 Ah, they're sticking microphones in my face again.

Posted by: Mutt Romnoid at November 07, 2018 06:49 PM (HgMAr)

395 One thing post-midterm I will not do again is believe a Rasmussen poll.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:50 PM (QBoRM)

396
I say that to my wife a lot and her reply to me
is basically "chill out everyone has been saying that forever, thinking
the next generation is going to fuck their shit up". And she's kinda
right.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (QBoRM)


Democrats used to be Americans, now most are Globalists first, Americans, meh.

It was never like this before.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 07, 2018 06:50 PM (UsCnO)

397 357 I say that to my wife a lot and her reply to me is basically "chill out everyone has been saying that forever, thinking the next generation is going to fuck their shit up". And she's kinda right.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM (QBoRM)


Look at where we were in 1945 and where we are today. Hell, even 25-30 years ago to today in terms of culture and mindset.

At minimum, we might have differed on many issues but at least shared the common ground of love of country and culture. Can you say that today?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 07, 2018 06:50 PM (/9p9e)

398 I want to know the Senate number--with Tester winning and assuming GOP wins in AZ and FL, are we at 55?
Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:49 PM (agW01)

___

54

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:50 PM (QBoRM)

399 Leftists would as soon put you into a Happy Camp as spit on you if you don't fall into their line. You will not be able to be employed, hounded into courts until you are bled dry.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:50 PM (T4oHT)

400 335 I have decided that I am not in favor of deportation of illegal aliens, or rather, not in favor of it as a first resort. I'm thinking 5 years at hard labor building their own detention facilities, and then deported with the warning that next time, it's 10 years.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (yQpMk)


Indenture them out on 5 five terms.
Enough progtards will buy their contracts to balance the budget.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 07, 2018 06:50 PM (1g7ch)

401 California is about to get it good and hard, as are
we in NY with the legislature change. Some real life lessons for people
who actually work for a living and want to do better for their families
is in order. Maybe people learn. Maybe not. But places like Connecticut
are losing their tax base, and California has no middle class left. At
some point you realize what these people are preaching is a big lie.
Unfortunately that may be when you are sleeping in a cardboard box or
dodging Molotov cocktails in Times Square. Some people, especially true
believers who make up the dupe army, don't get it until the wheels come
off.



Posted by: Marcus T at November 07, 2018 06:39 PM (wJ+c3)



People have been leaving New York for decades. Look at their EV amount today and then look it up for say 1980.



Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 07, 2018 06:44 PM

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Things change. Back in the 1960s Detroit was the fourth largest City in the United States......look at it now.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 07, 2018 06:50 PM (JUOKG)

402 Uh, there's a book about it. Some of it's even in stone.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:49 PM
...

It actually spends a fair bit of time discussing how to prep the parts and what and what not to do with them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 07, 2018 06:51 PM (jZQUe)

403 So, Sessions is gone, but Rosenpenis is still prancing around the DoJ? Help me understand...is Trump thinking it will be easier to find him if he would decide to head off to Malta or somewhere for a quick vacation?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin, Scanning the Horizon for the Crimson Tide at November 07, 2018 06:51 PM (ty7RM)

404 Posted by: Jim Acosta at November 07, 2018 06:34 PM (9X6

O.K. That did make me laugh, W could use some more laughs around here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:51 PM (AllCR)

405 If the elite were honest about what they believe we would hold them in outright contempt. So they lie to preserve their rice bowl. Any large political party is a coalition of like minded people. We are not going to agree with every other person in the party. I'm Pro life on a molecular level from conception on. I'm also not against all birth control. I understand that not all people agree with me. I would be thrilled if RvW were overturned and states ha a chance to make their own laws. To me abortion is killing an Innocent human life I can't see any good justification for it.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 07, 2018 06:51 PM (0OmEj)

406 Pelosi Cortez (pick a name) Schumer please come get my gun! It is yours! Of course I own more than you will ever know!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:51 PM (JFO2v)

407 Uh, there's a book about it. Some of it's even in stone.

grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:49 PM (lwiT4)

.......

You are one of my favorite posters, but pretty sure Jesus said we love even sinners.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:52 PM (b+Fr8)

408 The best Cruz ad was one where they referenced our desire (in Texas) for the government to leave us alone. We are so far gone it is crazy.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 07, 2018 06:52 PM (xceTB)

409 J.J. America now prefers any other citizen of the world , not ours so much, unless it's in one of the special classes and voted the right way. Even they , if they fall out of step for one moment is also tossed in the garbage .

Posted by: willow at November 07, 2018 06:52 PM (aSpXp)

410 378 Again I didn't say you couldn't talk about any darn thing you want to. I think I was pretty temperate and quite clear in suggesting we consider not using the term "Magic Underwear" That is all.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:47 PM (AllCR)

Hey, i'm not trying to pick a fight here.

I only wanted to remark on the celerity with which the wagons get circled (not by you specifically) for some groups but not for others.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:52 PM (BRvh1)

411 407 He pretty much said hate sin, love the sinner. All context with the Master.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 07, 2018 06:53 PM (xceTB)

412 " 247


You assume both sides are equally matched. I would doubt it. Then
again, if Soros/Steyer/Bloomberg spent money on arms caches instead of
elections, we'd be in deep shit."

I think their failure to do so on a large scale (there are definitely some local examples here and there) may come back to bite them.

A lot of people are only playing by the rules because they viewed the current admin as a last chance to get along. The longer the mobs, violence, blatant lawbreaking, and "baked cake for me, not for thee" stuff continues, the less reason there is to follow the rules.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at November 07, 2018 06:53 PM (eAshZ)

413 I am liking more and more how the House became a self-cleaning oven. Yeah, it sucks near term (I guess), but at the end of the day, 44 f'ing Rinos and quitters self purged. Adios!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin, Scanning the Horizon for the Crimson Tide at November 07, 2018 06:53 PM (ty7RM)

414 He always pops in with inspiring words when the blog goes all emo with the doom and the gloom.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 07, 2018 06:48 PM (jZQUe)


He's usually around later. Remember when stations used to go off the air and they'd have the national anthem playing over footage of jet fighters flying past landmarks and all that? irongrampa is that for the ONT.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 07, 2018 06:53 PM (mS+Df)

415 'Back in the 1960s Detroit was the fourth largest City in the United States......look at it now. '

Different dynamics. San Francisco is being destroyed by white leftists and illegal hispanics, which is not what happened several decades ago in Detroit and many other cities.

Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:53 PM (agW01)

416 Ok I will quit picking on Mormons. If Catholics care about abortion they would support a safe low dose pill. Or condoms. Have you never seen Jurassic Park? Nature will find a way!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (JFO2v)

417 You are one of my favorite posters, but pretty sure Jesus said we love even sinners.

Does he?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (yQpMk)

418 http://www.thediplomad.com
And We Have Barney!
Always a good short read

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (T4oHT)

419 It is easy to get cynical and down in the dumps. I have to promise myself often not to lose faith along with prayers each night for our country.

Stay positive my friends no matter how hard it can be!

Posted by: Cheri at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (oiNtH)

420 Fox News and the National Peeyew are both banned from my house just like CNN and NBC, I refuse to pay for access to those swine. The RINOs look down at the average voter with utter contempt, which is fine I feel the same way about them they're scum who straddle the middle of the road and end up hit by some semi.

Posted by: Rose at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (ovQSQ)

421 California is indeed fucking nuts. I live here and do really enjoy it but the politics are killer. I suck it up and accept I have idiots like Brown and now Newsome as governor. I'm horrified yet accepting that BDBoxer is replaced with an even worse version in Harris etc etc.

But Xavier Becerra, reelected as attorney general, re- worded Prop 6 so it looked like it was against improving roads and it was actually to repeal a gas tax that will never go to roads, that the Demo supermajority rammed through. The people here are idiots and voted against the thing that would save the middle class and poor from a shit ton more of gas tax, but that was fraud the way the proposition was worded.

And then the idiot Reps didn't expend an ounce of energy to help Diane Harkey in the 49th (where Issa pussied out after reading the tea leaves), so now there is a Dem in one of the few So Cal districts that traditionally went Rep.
Are the sunshine and beaches worth the idiocy of the people here anymore......

Posted by: keena at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (RiTnx)

422
I thought they had 218?

I want to know the Senate number--with Tester winning and assuming GOP wins in AZ and FL, are we at 55?
Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:49 PM (agW01)


So they have a majority of 2?

Posted by: Sooner at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (v+nYP)

423 nood

Posted by: hogmartin at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (mS+Df)

424 Personally I'm hoping for the Beto-Occasional Cortex ticket in 2020.

Posted by: chinese rock at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (agW01)

425 From yesterday:

The NAACP of Georgia also won a lawsuit to keep two precincts near Morehouse and Spelman Colleges, both historically black institutions, open until 10 p.m.


@NAACP
BREAKING: Georgia NAACP wins a lawsuit, and voting times will be extended by three hours in two precincts near Spelman and Morehouse. Polls will now close at 10:00pm per court orders.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2018 06:45 PM (aKsyK)


Because some people even read a clock?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 07, 2018 06:55 PM (1g7ch)

426 Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 07, 2018 06:52 PM (BRvh1)

I think I'm pretty consistent in not wanting there to be acrimonious religious debates with people who are on the same conservative side politically speaking.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2018 06:55 PM (AllCR)

427 And turning Florida, Georgia and NC into New York 2.0.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:46 PM

Don't forget Virginia, a longtime GOP stronghold which now has Dem gov/lt gov/ag, both senators, and most US representatives. I have got to get out of this state, it's circling the bowl.

Posted by: radar at November 07, 2018 06:55 PM (dbFAg)

428 funny thing is if you read leftist versions of Ace, people think Trump is destroying America and the future is bleak. My point re: my wife is everyone always thinks w're fucked and it's always been like that.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at November 07, 2018 06:55 PM (QBoRM)

429 It actually spends a fair bit of time discussing how to prep the parts and what and what not to do with them.

The parts and the fluids.


Quite a bit of specificity about fluids.

Posted by: mikeyG at November 07, 2018 06:55 PM (LL1Be)

430 416 Irony isn't your strong suit I'm guessing?

Posted by: rammajamma at November 07, 2018 06:55 PM (xceTB)

431 rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (JFO2v)

........

I think we should stop picking on horde members. Period. Period.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:55 PM (b+Fr8)

432 Kinda looked like Trump almost went after Acosta. That would have been awesome.

Posted by: dartist at November 07, 2018 06:55 PM (K22Va)

433 >>> I am liking more and more how the House became a self-cleaning oven. Yeah, it sucks near term (I guess), but at the end of the day, 44 f'ing Rinos and quitters self purged. Adios!

Now if only we had term limits...

Posted by: LizLem at November 07, 2018 06:56 PM (hvf9s)

434 417 You are one of my favorite posters, but pretty sure Jesus said we love even sinners.

Does he?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (yQpMk)

Like the ones he beat at the Temple Court?

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:56 PM (JFO2v)

435 Kamala/Beto 2020 - Kamelto!

Posted by: rammajamma at November 07, 2018 06:56 PM (xceTB)

436 There's only one party. The rest is a puppet show. Trump knocked over the play set.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 07, 2018 06:57 PM (ZuGkg)

437 Help...! I am out of gas and my little oar won`t reach the water. For your information Ace, I am pro-gun. I love a large barrel that goes off multiple times!

Posted by: Capt Kristol in his motorized canoe at November 07, 2018 06:57 PM (yhf6w)

438 431 rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:54 PM (JFO2v)

........

I think we should stop picking on horde members. Period. Period.
Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:55 PM (b+Fr

I would not belong to a hoard that would have me as a member!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 07, 2018 06:57 PM (JFO2v)

439
335 I'm thinking 5 years at hard labor building their own detention facilities

conveniently shaped like canals?

Posted by: Anachronda at November 07, 2018 06:57 PM (xGZ+b)

440 @379 I'm honestly shocked Dems haven't been more proactive in quashing Clinton, but many are still invested in the fiction of the election being stolen by Russians or the EC or what have you.
---------------

There's also a lot of members of the Dem base who were essentially "We'll vote for Clinton because First Woman President no matter what dirt turns up about her!" A strong Democratic woman running for President might be able to squash Hillary Clinton. But a male Democratic presidential nominee will have to at least acknowledge her, or risk alienating that portion of Clinton's voting bloc.

Not that those voters would vote for a Republican, of course. But they might end up not being able to muster enough enthusiasm to get to the polls on Election Day.

Posted by: junior at November 07, 2018 06:58 PM (6qIUH)

441 pretty sure Jesus said we love even sinners.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 06:52 PM (b+Fr


Absolutely. But - He's kind of like mom - "I love you, Billy, but you're gonna poke your eye out."

Don't poke your eye out.



Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:58 PM (lwiT4)

442 conveniently shaped like canals?

That's their day job, by night they build their camps.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 07, 2018 06:58 PM (yQpMk)

443 434 Like the ones he beat at the Temple Court?

that was just energetic loving

Posted by: Anachronda at November 07, 2018 06:59 PM (NmR1a)

444 Brilliant points. Thanks Ace.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, VoteRed and Be Happy at November 07, 2018 06:59 PM (Z216Q)

445 What you have to look at with every industrial and formerly industrial city is the migration patterns in the WWII years and what that did to migration, in and out, in the following two or three decades. Very much a part of Detroit, and San Francisco, and a bunch of others.

Posted by: JEM at November 07, 2018 06:59 PM (8erNz)

446 Please don't turn this site into a PC one. we can joke. and we can insult each other. PLEASE NO PC SHIT

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 07, 2018 07:01 PM (d7Ww2)

447 A lot of the Republican intellectual class are globalist. They see a future world were America is just another geographic location. Anything that gets in the way of this new world they dream of like gun rights, freedom of speech, religion, etc. they will sacrifice to achieve it.

When you look at it, parts of the "conservative intellectual class" is really just a subset of the academic class in general. You know the global citizens produced at our major universities. So within that tribe Jonah is conservative., but he is culturally one of the tribe.

The way to tell is what makes them most upset. Is it talk of restricting gun rights and free speech, or is it restricting "free trade" and pushing "isolationism or nationalism".

Goldberg comes unhinged with anger on the later and only gives a few lines of support for the former.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 07, 2018 07:01 PM (MuTTO)

448
Ooooooo, Teh Ewok really didn't like this movie.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 07, 2018 07:05 PM (rJIiw)

449 Their conservatism is fluid... Like their morals... Like their principles.

Chasing their approval and vote is a fools errand.

Posted by: Rando Calrissian at November 07, 2018 07:06 PM (v2mqW)

450 today Pelosi dragged out the 1950's style Dem rhetoric when they were truly a blue collar party.. Prolly memorized from the days she ran with her father in Baltimore but ole Nan got that shit down pat..... Creepy Joe big f'n deal Biteme has the same spiel down as well. You know Joe Biden is from Scranton right??

Posted by: Vin the Chinthe and the Bathrobe Wanderers. (available for parties) at November 07, 2018 07:06 PM (ICWiF)

451 I read a few years ago if just 100 certain people were not in the world everything would be honky dory..

Posted by: Vin the Chin and the Bathrobe Wanderers. (available for parties) at November 07, 2018 07:08 PM (ICWiF)

452 Great stuff, Ace.

Posted by: lowtech redneck at November 07, 2018 07:10 PM (hfClf)

453 Don't poke your eye out.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 07, 2018 06:58 PM (lwiT4)

.........

No problem, I don't decamp with the gehys. Just love em anyway. And I love you, too. You are a great commentator, and I respect your position. I still visit Chik Fil A.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 07:11 PM (b+Fr8)

454 "Ya`ll best be mining me some more votes down on that south side of Atlanta. This cracker done got me on the ropes. I gots to close this gap."
"Lawd Ms Abrams, can`t no man close dat gap."
"SAY WHAT?"

Posted by: Fat Stacey Abrams at November 07, 2018 07:12 PM (yhf6w)

455 446 Please don't turn this site into a PC one. we can joke. and we can insult each other. PLEASE NO PC SHIT

nurse ratched at November 07, 2018 07:01 PM (d7Ww2)

......

Yah, that's not gonna happen. Hurl them my way. I can take it.

Posted by: Smaug at November 07, 2018 07:13 PM (b+Fr8)

456 I was surprised to read in Tucker,s book (ship of fools) that Kristol is privately as socially conservative as Pat Buchanan (whom he hates).

Posted by: Kata at November 07, 2018 07:26 PM (Zhe6p)

457 I DO say purge Cap Bill and Jo Boy. They never vote or support us anytime anyway. And my economic advice is buy Ammo.

Posted by: grnberet at November 07, 2018 07:31 PM (9qgwW)

458 Sharp analysis. Open borders is a liberal Establishment sacrament. The waste of a Senate seat on Romney becomes ever more apparent as he takes to Twitter to bemoan the loss of Sessions tonight, but, hey, he's open borders

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 07, 2018 07:49 PM (3xAwm)

459 Most of politics is just a money scam.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 07, 2018 08:16 PM (trMj1)

460 The GOP is loaded with trojan leftists.

Posted by: Jim at November 07, 2018 08:29 PM (Cj7ov)

461 Anyone who supports open borders, but has locks on their front doors and is against letting anyone just walk into their home 24/7 to take whatever food, drink, or belongings they want whenever they want is a stinking, despicable hypocrite.

Posted by: Pete at November 07, 2018 09:35 PM (HTDVd)

462 I remember when Jonah Goldberg wrote his article about the Masterpiece Cake Shop. His take? Government shouldn't compel or curtail free speech, people posting negative reviews on Yelp should do it. Quel suprise. I guess a little fascism is okay provided it done the private sector and is for a good cause.

If the people don't give a damn about freedom of speech, then there is no point to restricting government's power to abridge it.

Posted by: Glen at November 07, 2018 11:47 PM (8EUYx)

463
Do you really think Bill Kristol favors gun rights?


Have you ever seen him holding a gun? Writing about guns?


Have you reported on the Maryland man murdered by cops confiscating his guns?

Posted by: NeilG at November 08, 2018 12:06 PM (a8yRc)

464 Jonah supports the Wall, albeit tepidly. It's not something he really writes about (probably because he's more interested in intellectual history), but he recently said on his podcast that he thinks the Wall is kinda dumb, but supports it nonetheless because it demonstrates to the voters, who have been lied to by politicians pretending to care about border security for years, that border security is a priority.

Posted by: gts109 at November 08, 2018 02:23 PM (i7J1c)

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