When the Dream of Diversity Goes Wrong [KT]

What happens when the left's goal of diversity runs into either reality or some of their other goals? Some vignettes from the news:

Rural California becomes less diverse, more dangerous

Victor Davis Hanson's message here is not new, but this piece is particularly graphic as a harbinger of where illegal immigration and Democratic rule are taking us.

I live on a farm beside a rural avenue in central California, the fifth generation to reside in the same house. And after years of thefts, home break-ins, and dangerous encounters, I have concluded that it is no longer safe to live where I was born. I stay for a while longer because I am sixty-five years old and either too old to move or too worried about selling the final family parcel of what was homesteaded in the 1870s.
Rural Fresno County used to be one of the most ethnically diverse areas in the United States. I grew up with first-, second-, and third-generation farmers--agrarians of Armenian, German, Greek, Mexican, Japanese, Portuguese, Punjabi, and Scandinavian descent.
Race and ethnicity were richly diverse; yet assimilation was the collective shared goal--made easier because immigration was almost entirely a legal and measured enterprise.

I have seen huge bags of trash thrown onto the side of Highway 43 through VDH's hometown, Selma. I haven't spent a lot of time on its back roads, but nearby I have seen dumped couches, beds and appliances. He describes worse.

The tragedy of illegal immigration is that it did not have to be this way. Legal, measured, meritocratic, and diverse immigration leads to rapid assimilation and Americanization and enriches the country culturally and economically.
Its antithesis--illegal, mass, non-meritocratic, and non-diverse immigration--hinders the melting pot. It fuels tribalism, while incurring vast costs in social services to ensure some sort of parity for those from impoverished southern Mexico and Central America. The wages of our citizen working poor and their access to needed social services are not helped by thousands of new arrivals without legality and English.
Yet illegal immigration in such numbers certainly empowers a host of special interests. . . .

He identifies some of them. Sure seems like we have been stupid about immigration for a long time.

Harvard vs. Asians

JJ Sefton picked up this piece by Justin Torres in City Journal on the discrimination case against Harvard, See Their Faces.

This week, after more than four years of pretrial litigation and sifting through 160,000 documents, Students for Fair Admission will get its day in a Massachusetts federal district court on allegations that Harvard University discriminates against Asian-American applicants. The trial is expected to last for at least three weeks. Based on the evidence that SFA presented in pretrial motions, Harvard--whether it wins or loses in court--is in for a long, embarrassing slog.
The case is the latest in the federal courts' tortured consideration of affirmative-action policies in higher education. (Harvard, as a private university, is not subject to constitutional requirements that apply to public universities, but because it accepts federal funding, it is subject to Title VI, the civil rights law that replicates much of the constitutional structure.) The law governing affirmative-action practices is a complete mess. . . .

Nice piece with some interesting details. Check it out.

Lost in the abstract discussion of numbers and trends is the fact that the victimized students are real people, often from disadvantaged backgrounds, with their own legitimate aspirations built on years of sterling academic achievement. The most poignant section of a motion bristling with statistics and regression analysis is an excerpt of deposition testimony from a college admissions counselor at Stuyvesant High School in New York City. Admissions to Stuyvesant are race-blind and based on test scores--at least for now, though Mayor Bill de Blasio is advocating for a "holistic" admissions review there as well. . .
Q. You want to keep going? You want to tell me why this is upsetting to you?
A. Because these numbers make it seem like there's discrimination, and I love these kids, and I know how hard they work. And these just look like numbers to all of you guys, but I see their faces.

Elizabeth Warren needs to Face the Music

Earlier this week, JJ Sefton linked a Daniel Greenfield piece that reminded us of some of the earlier transformations in the life of Elizabeth Warren, in addition to becoming a Native American:

Elizabeth Ann Herring has been many things in her life. All of them fake.
She represented an insurance company in an asbestos case before becoming a consumer rights crusader. She was paid $350,000 to teach a single course before deciding to fight student debt. She was a Republican, then became a socialist, and then announced, "I am a capitalist to my bones."

Ironic how her political career has intersected (ahem) in unfortunate ways changes in leftist causes over the years.

As OregonMuse suggested yesterday, even many on the left are concluding that Elizabeth Warren has now blown it big time. Here is one of them, in Current Affairs:

I like Elizabeth Warren a lot. She's probably my second-favorite elected official. It's only thanks to her that we have the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the best agency in the U.S. federal government. She is gutsy, smart, and she cares about the economic well-being of ordinary people. Which is why I am so frustrated that Warren has so badly mishandled this native ancestry issue.
Obviously Donald Trump does not care about Native people. (He put a picture of Andrew Jackson in the Oval Office, for God's sake.)

Side note: Dang, these people get upset over statues and portraits and such lately. Trump does a little symbolic reach across the aisle by hanging a portrait of the Democrat whose face is on the 20 dollar bill and it proves he hates Native Americans.

But back to Elizabeth Warren: The author of this piece outlines the times Warren has used the claim of Native American heritage professionally before ripping into her handing of the resulting controversy. His bottom line:

After offending Cherokee people and doubling down on an indefensible claim, Warren really cannot run for president.

Interesting to see his question about why Warren didn't consult with some Cherokees before proceeding, in light of Daniel Greenfield's comments on Native American attitudes toward DNA testing in the piece linked just above.

Perhaps it's time for Elizabeth Warren to relax and reflect on her natural tendency to choose the recipes of a French chef for a Native American cookbook. Could she be part French? When she was young, was she La Fille aux cheveux de lin? The Girl with the Flaxen Hair? Go ahead and retire to a little place in Provence, Elizabeth. Cook some of your favorite recipes and tell some stories. We won't mind.

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1 What happens when the left's goal of diversity runs into either reality or some of their other goals?

This is a trick question. The left doesn't know reality from pixie dust.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at October 20, 2018 11:26 AM (3sjI6)

2 Trainwreck.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 20, 2018 11:27 AM (oVJmc)

3 There are lots of places diversity isn't a good idea

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 11:28 AM (T4oHT)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 20, 2018 11:30 AM (2s3aR)

5 Dems have never valued diversity. That the party of the KKK can get away with saying that they do tells you all you need to know about how thoroughly the commies have infiltrated reporting and education.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 20, 2018 11:31 AM (YC9GB)

6 Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Isn't this the agency that has no Congressional oversight because Dances with Lies designed it that way?

Posted by: Beartooth at October 20, 2018 11:32 AM (clzct)

7 "Diversity" is the trojan horse that the Left uses to drive things leftward.

Since they view everything in racial/identity group terms, and are confident of their ownership of any and all opinions held by identity groups, they use it to place people of their opinions and to move institutions and policies leftward.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 20, 2018 11:33 AM (oVJmc)

8 Like everything you wrote KT, it's not bothering me if Fauxahonas doesn't face the music. In fact when ever has a Leftist said they were wrong?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 11:33 AM (T4oHT)

9 Willowed:
Here's some polling info that came out last night for those who care.

No
statewide polls in Michigan since last week, but they polled two
congressional districts. A tie in the 11th, narrow GOP lead in the 8th
(which has a GOP incumbent.

Here's were things get interesting.
They also polled for US Senate in both districts and James was running
even in the 11th and was leading 50-45 in the 8th, which means he is
outperforming the congresscritter.

Stabenow was last polled at 9
points ahead, but if she's now losing the 8th, she may be in real
trouble. James is from the Detroit area and if he pulls just 20 percent
of the vote there, she's toast.

No one's looking at Michigan, even RCP has it "likely Dem" but the Dems could lose this seat.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 11:34 AM (cfSRQ)

10 Diversity is nonsense in some cases, and anti-sense in most.

Posted by: Minuteman at October 20, 2018 11:34 AM (Gxd4c)

11 Today's Dem/commie party is simply so arrogant that they think they can direct the tribalism their policies bring about to stay in power. Unfortunately it isn't only commie traitors and their useful idiots who suffer when they get enough power to impose their envy driven agendas or their schemes break down and countries devolve to full on tribalism.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 20, 2018 11:35 AM (YC9GB)

12 Like everything you wrote KT, it's not bothering me if Fauxahonas doesn't face the music. In fact when ever has a Leftist said they were wrong?
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 11:33 AM (T4oHT)

"Never admit you're wrong, never give-up, never surrender. It won't make the world a better place, but who gives a shit about that?"

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at October 20, 2018 11:36 AM (3sjI6)

13 Hello, friend KT. Thanks for the poat.

"Based on the evidence that SFA presented in pretrial motions, Harvard--whether it wins or loses in court--is in for a long, embarrassing slog."

*faint smile*

That just made my weekend a little brighter.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 11:37 AM (y87Qq)

14 Thanks for the Debussy, KT.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at October 20, 2018 11:37 AM (T71PA)

15 6
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Isn't this the agency that has no
Congressional oversight because Dances with Lies designed it that way?

Posted by: Beartooth at October 20, 2018 11:32 AM (clzct)

Yes...like they never thought they would lose again

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 20, 2018 11:42 AM (OOH1c)

16 A lot of MS=13 spark of divinity is what happens when Democrats face the reality of their policies.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 11:42 AM (busJo)

17 It seems to me that the ambition of the modern Progressive Liberal Socialist is to rule over the population as was done in medieval time by the Feudal Warlords.

Modern Progressive Liberal Socialists seem to have difficulty competing with their middle-class peers who are not socialists so the remedy for the Socialist is to eliminate their competition. Thus the deliberate destruction of the middle class.

The result is absolute rule by the socialist elite over an army of inferior serfs. San Francisco, Los Angeles with their homeless and super rich and oppressive government regulation that forces the middle class to leave or drive the middle class into bankruptcy.

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 11:44 AM (oYD2h)

18 In a just world the Harvard lawsuit would be its demise.

Posted by: Minuteman at October 20, 2018 11:44 AM (Gxd4c)

19 Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 11:34 AM (cfSRQ)

Problem is those are both GOP districts already.

Posted by: HA at October 20, 2018 11:44 AM (MAstk)

20 Diversity for most left wingers is having the diverse live not in their communities but in other peoples communities. Kinda like increasing taxes is spending other peoples money

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2018 11:44 AM (dRi3u)

21 "Diversity is a great thing, a noble thing. Just don't let those people in my neighborhood".---

Democrats wealthy enough to be socialists.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 20, 2018 11:45 AM (wc+Nc)

22 According to the Columbus PD, the immigrant Somali assaults on OSU students, folks just eating in a restaurant, families in a park and on each other, are NOT HATE CRIMES DAMNIT!

And the added cases of previously eradicated diseases like polio, smallpox, etc. have nothing to do with that either h8ter!!

The pos Columbus Disgrace headlines this stuff as *Somali community rocked by XXXXX* or *Somalis live under suspicion*.

Poor babies.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 20, 2018 11:46 AM (9rIkM)

23 "I like Elizabeth Warren a lot."

After that, why would you read anymore? This is what makes Trump "deplorable". To the swamp, politics is about appearance. "We have to elect this gay mulatto because he dresses well and can read a teleprompter in a non-threatening voice." "We will never support Trump because the Republicrat party is not about that. We prefer to reach across the isle and give a hand-job to the Demonicrats." "If Trump is elected, he will destroy the world! He won't, but all we have to do is say that and someone will believe it." If you make sure the appearance is bland, non-threatening, well-dressed, with a polite veneer, you don't need to worry about the public seeing the grift and the graft behind the superficiality. Warren appeals to her base because she does the stupid American dance well enough, and stupid Americans are enchanted by structured poses.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at October 20, 2018 11:47 AM (3sjI6)

24 Seems to me they could close the CFPB and no one could say Jack shit about it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2018 11:48 AM (LHVhu)

25
MoMe MoMe MoMe Banana Fana FoNee Fee Fi FoNee

MoMe!

See ya in awhile, jackwagons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 20, 2018 11:48 AM (eXA4G)

26 Went with my son to Virginia Tech last weekend for a pre-application visit.

Tech is a SERIOUS engineering school. THey have other stuff, but the largest section is the engineering school.

So, I was kind of surprised at the presentations.

First, the admissions department came up and talked about, you know, admissions.

Important to note - they use a "Coalition" application rather than the more common "Common app"

Here is the web page:

http://www.coalitionforcollegeaccess.org/

Anyone notice anything interesting about that page?

So, continuing, part of the Coalition application is to answer a handful of questions, in 120 words or less. One of the key questions is "How have you encoutered discrimination in your life and what did you do about it?"

We went to the engineering presentation afterward. On stage was a lady who was the head of admissions for engineering, and joining her were 6 engineering students, who were a Middle Eastern male, 3 African American females, an Indian female, and a Caucasian female.

They talked a LOT about how awesome the diversity in engineering programs are and how they got to help out underprivileged children. That got about as much time as the discussion of the engineering education.

Oh, btw, VT has 22% females in their engineering program. As I looked out over the crowd that was listening, I noticed that the students were overwhelmingly white and male.

Posted by: blaster at October 20, 2018 11:49 AM (VhKw6)

27 My contribution to the "diversity" discussion:

You know those annual online trainings they make you do, so you can demonstrate you're with the program?

Doesn't matter what line of work you do, you have them. And they do vary greatly in how bad they're done, from bad to "worse than oral surgery without anesthesia" bad.

The worst part? The names and pictures they use for the vignettes. Egad, they are so diverse it makes me sick.

"Pablo comes to work, and notices that Pinjab is looking confused. He asked Pinjab, "what's the matter." Pinjab says, our boss, Veshamdofedisaba, says I have to have this report done by Friday. If we don't, she says I can't take my vacation. What should I do?" Pablo suggests they take it to the head of HR, Osama. He says "this sounds like a personnel question, and Osama can help us sort this out."

Meanwhile, the vice president in charge of production, Gertrude, walks in and says she and her gay lesbian hermaphrodite spouse, Shaniquia, are going on vacation.....

GAAAAAH!! So much diversity!!! Can't concentrate on the stupid quiz questions I have to answer to get out of this crazy Kafka loop training I'm in!!!!!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 11:49 AM (cY3LT)

28 Diversity for most left wingers is having the diverse live not in their communities but in other peoples communities.

-
NIMBY diversity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2018 11:50 AM (5Mk4N)

29 Posted by: Anonymous White Male at October 20, 2018 11:47 AM (3sjI6)

They broke us up into tribes...

Forced us into them LEGALLY, based on our Gender, and our Skin color.

And then spent the last 40 years attacking the tribe they forced me into.

Well, for every action there will be an equal, and opposite, reaction, in Nature, and in Man.

Posted by: Don Quixote, looking for Dulcinea at October 20, 2018 11:50 AM (NgKpN)

30 The way to stop discrimination is to stop discriminating. Diversity is the current way for progressives to discriminate and to practice prejudice for and against individuals. People are individuals; they are not the same as the groups they are assigned to.

Posted by: Minuteman at October 20, 2018 11:51 AM (Gxd4c)

31 Does anybody else find it ironic that UNIversities are pushing for DIversity?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 11:52 AM (m45I2)

32 Tomahawk Lizzie is whiter than an albino polar bear.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2018 11:52 AM (5Mk4N)

33 6 Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Isn't this the agency that has no Congressional oversight because Dances with Lies designed it that way?
_____________

It's completely corrupt.

The CFPB bought itself a HQ building in a premium D.C. site, across the street from the White House (no actual reason for them to need such a pricey spot). Then they budgeted $55 million to renovate the already-nice office building, which quickly increased to $214 million, which the Federal Reserve Inspector General ultimately rejected as ludicrous.

But even the "slimmed down" renovations ended up costing taxpayers $339 a square foot, or more than the average costs of building a brand new office building in D.C.

This is just one example of "the best agency in the federal government." (How anybody could say that with a straight face is a testament to their total detachment from reality).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 20, 2018 11:53 AM (fqUgw)

34 31 Does anybody else find it ironic that UNIversities are pushing for DIversity?
Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 11:52 AM (m45I2)

Pluriversities

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2018 11:53 AM (aROE4)

35 CFPB with out oversight is the very definition of a rogue agency.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 11:54 AM (busJo)

36 Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
--

Isn't that the Federal Agency that gave us 21-25% interest on credit card debt?

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 11:54 AM (oYD2h)

37 CFPB with out oversight is the very definition of a rogue agency.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 11:54 AM (busJo)

The courts ruled that CFPB is unconstitutional because of the no oversight thing.

And yet, it persists.

Posted by: blaster at October 20, 2018 11:55 AM (VhKw6)

38 24
Seems to me they could close the CFPB and no one could say Jack shit about it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2018 11:48 AM (LHVhu)
That would actually be shrinking the govt....that doesnt happen

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 20, 2018 11:56 AM (OOH1c)

39 i asked this yesterday, and I'll ask it again now. And I am being genuine about it...I'm not being cheeky.

People constantly talk about how great Canada is, but...what's the diversity quotient in Canada? And I am not criticizing Canada at all. If people are of a certain background, they are of a certain background. Just like I don't criticize the small Midwestern towns for lack of diversity. It is what it is, and I am not gonna say one way is better than another.

I also hear how great Canada is, and I am sure it is a lovely country. But, I hear there is better education, better health care, nicer people, and so on. Why so the illegal immigrants stop here then? If Canada is this perfect utopia....why don't they keep moving northward? I don't get it. Again, I am not being cheeky.

Posted by: TickledPink at October 20, 2018 11:57 AM (TL2pK)

40
My contribution to the "diversity" discussion:

You know those annual online trainings they make you do, so you can demonstrate you're with the program?

Doesn't matter what line of work you do, you have them. And they do vary greatly in how bad they're done, from bad to "worse than oral surgery without anesthesia" bad.

The worst part? The names and pictures they use for the vignettes. Egad, they are so diverse it makes me sick.

"Pablo comes to work, and notices that Pinjab is looking confused. He asked Pinjab, "what's the matter." Pinjab says, our boss, Veshamdofedisaba, says I have to have this report done by Friday. If we don't, she says I can't take my vacation. What should I do?" Pablo suggests they take it to the head of HR, Osama. He says "this sounds like a personnel question, and Osama can help us sort this out."

Meanwhile, the vice president in charge of production, Gertrude, walks in and says she and her gay lesbian hermaphrodite spouse, Shaniquia, are going on vacation.....

GAAAAAH!! So much diversity!!! Can't concentrate on the stupid quiz questions I have to answer to get out of this crazy Kafka loop training I'm in!!!!!!!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 11:49 AM (cY3LT)

One thing I've noticed with the commies and labor policy that your example also illustrates, is that they're focused almost exclusively on making it so that labor doesn't actually have to.... labor. Vacation time, PTO days, sick leave, maternity leave etc etc. All are good things IN MODERATION that attract workers and can provide for a good work environment.

But it's a balancing act between providing for the worker and actually getting the work done so that the company can stay profitable and healthy. The commies basically proceed on the premise that the company has no say in assigning work to it's own workers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 20, 2018 11:57 AM (eXA4G)

41 Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
--

Isn't that the Federal Agency that gave us 21-25% interest on credit card debt?
Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 11:54 AM (oYD2h)

Jimmy Carter approves.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at October 20, 2018 11:57 AM (T71PA)

42 No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to DI-versity!!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 11:58 AM (m45I2)

43 I have a hard time getting worked up over Warren's role in the creation of the CFPB. Of course, it should be burnt to the ground. If only we had had a Republican president and Congress for the last two years, it could have been eliminated.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2018 11:59 AM (H5knJ)

44 TickledPink at October 20, 2018 11:57 AM

Climate.

Something like 80-90 percent of the population of Canada lives as close to their southern border as they can get.

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 11:59 AM (oYD2h)

45 Got willowed too. In fact, it happens all the time!

Anyway . . . anyone have any thoughts on this?

344 111 FL early vote by mail update.

GOP increases ballot lead to 50,400.

Total ballots cast 877,782.
Posted by: HA at October 20, 2018 09:41 AM (MAstk)

Something else to keep in mind. These mail in results do not include those since October 9th from 8 Florida counties affected by Hurricane Michael - all rabidly Red counties: Bay, Calhoun, Franklin, Gulf, Holmes, Jackson, Liberty, Washington. The voting results from these counties in 2016 were 108,975 for PDT and 36,525 for Scankles. Just imagine if they were included in those totals.

Looked back at the 2012 Senatorial election map, and 6 of these counties went overwhelmingly for Connie Mack. the other two - Nelson won Holmes by 48 votes and Franklin by 1 (!).

And in 2014, Rick Scott won decisively over Crist in all 8 counties: 69,934 to 26.899

Gosh, hope these people will be able to vote by election day.

As this area is part of the Redneck Riviera, instinct says most of them will literally walk across broken glass to vote against Gillum & Nelson.

Posted by: Marybeth at October 20, 2018 11:13 AM (MEgUr)

Posted by: Marybeth at October 20, 2018 11:59 AM (MEgUr)

46 Seems to me they could close the CFPB and no one could say Jack shit about it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2018 11:48 AM (LHVhu)
That would actually be shrinking the govt....that doesnt happen
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 20, 2018 11:56 AM (OOH1c)

Didn't Mulvaney ask for a zero dollar budget?

Or did some Hawaiian judge overrule that?

Posted by: blaster at October 20, 2018 11:59 AM (VhKw6)

47 Elizabeth Warren has led the way in destroying the diversity scam. This is all based upon discriminating using undefined or poorly defined groupings.

We're back to the one drop rule. Many of us can hop on the victim train with a DNA test. All of us with 1/1024ths of any of the oppressed groups can check the government favored boxes.

Then they will switch over to the paper bag rule.

Posted by: Minuteman at October 20, 2018 12:00 PM (Gxd4c)

48 Okay this is making me laugh. Tin Lizzy gets the Fauchohontas NPC treatment.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y97hfzl4

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:00 PM (busJo)

49 Ok...football's on...see you losers later.

Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2018 12:02 PM (0+nbW)

50 You know who founded the DNA company Warren tested with?

Posted by: HA at October 20, 2018 12:02 PM (MAstk)

51 I like Elizabeth Warren a lot."

After that, why would you read anymore? This is what makes Trump "deplorable". To the swamp, politics is about appearance. "We have to elect this gay mulatto because he dresses well and can read a teleprompter in a non-threatening voice." "We will never support Trump because the Republicrat party is not about that. We prefer to reach across the isle and give a hand-job to the Demonicrats." "If Trump is elected, he will destroy the world! He won't, but all we have to do is say that and someone will believe it." If you make sure the appearance is bland, non-threatening, well-dressed, with a polite veneer, you don't need to worry about the public seeing the grift and the graft behind the superficiality. Warren appeals to her base because she does the stupid American dance well enough, and stupid Americans are enchanted by structured poses.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at October 20, 2018 11:47 AM (3sjI6)

I just started reading Schlichter's "Militant Normals" book. I'm a slow reader, but the first few pages so far, I'm reading this thing and thinking "hey, other than being a lawyer and living in Californica, this guy could be me!"

So yeah, he's not really saying anything I don't already know, but it sure is like melted butter reading somebody writing it down.

Liz Warren/Jeb Bush/Mitt Romney/[Fill In the Latest Lefty Flavor of the Month Here]... what's the difference.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:02 PM (cY3LT)

52 Most diversity advocates that I have run across tend to define diversity as a state of existence where everybody thinks just like them.

Things that make me raise one eyebrow.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 12:04 PM (m45I2)

53 Hmmm.... so....

Apparently last week there was a speech at a Republican club in New York City.

Proud Boys, showed up... and when leaving were confronted by Antifa, who threw a bottle and a fight ensued.

Two Proud Boys have been arrested, 8 more are being searched for, but NO ANTIFA have been arrested.

So much for Equal Application of the Law, if only we had some Federal Guy whose job it is to oversea these kinds of things... you know... some Attorney...

Posted by: Don Quixote, looking for Dulcinea at October 20, 2018 12:04 PM (NgKpN)

54 I also hear how great Canada is, and I am sure it is a lovely country. But, I hear there is better education, better health care, nicer people, and so on. Why so the illegal immigrants stop here then? If Canada is this perfect utopia....why don't they keep moving northward? I don't get it.

---------

It's the moose out front.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2018 12:04 PM (13Al/)

55 @44

So the illegal immigrants thing Canada would be too cold?

I just don't get it....there is more land to claim, there is more of a mark to make. Why stop in the US? Why stop in an overpopulated country, riddled with crime, when they could go to the Great White North?

Are we really that weak?

Posted by: TickledPink at October 20, 2018 12:04 PM (TL2pK)

56 I also hear how great Canada is, and I am sure it is a lovely country. But, I hear there is better education, better health care, nicer people, and so on. Why so the illegal immigrants stop here then? If Canada is this perfect utopia....why don't they keep moving northward? I don't get it. Again, I am not being cheeky.
Posted by: TickledPink at October 20, 2018 11:57 AM (TL2pK)

Canada is a little too cold for melanin enhanced individuals. They say beggars can't be choosers, but in the brave new world we live in, not only are they choosers, they are the chosen.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at October 20, 2018 12:05 PM (3sjI6)

57 VDH is one of the best, most learned and perceptive writers around. He knows a lot of things and he is wise.
I never realized though the hardships and dangers he has incurred trying to keep his family's farm-and legacy-- alive.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 12:05 PM (NFEMn)

58 >> Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

Orwellian

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2018 12:06 PM (3wGnw)

59 Problem is those are both GOP districts already.

Posted by: HA at October 20, 2018 11:44 AM (MAstk)

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Right, but if there is to be a BLUE WAVE!!!1 those seats are the ones that need to flip. The Dems should be walking away with them.

More to the point, Stabenow should at least be running a few points ahead. She's been there for 18 years, universal name ID, etc.

I'm not saying it's a done deal, I'm saying the fight ain't over and the Dems could lose this seat.

No one thought Michigan was in play in 2016. No. One.

Well, except me. I knew that if Trump could get enough blue collar voters to flip, he could finally carry the state.

I also knew that with the combination of Michigan, Florida and Ohio, he would win. Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were the bonus round.

Same is true here. The Dems have been pissing away cash on a fool's errand in Texas while letting a solid seat get into trouble. If James wins, the schadenfreude will be delicious and we'll have our second black GOP Senator.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:07 PM (cfSRQ)

60 Pretty boy Trudeau scares the shit out of them.

Mumbai dancing on the border with Nunavik as we speak......:0

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2018 12:07 PM (5IHGB)

61 >>>Rural California becomes less diverse, more dangerous

The problem lies in the people currently making it less diverse. If CA had negligible immigration all along and it was about as diverse as it was when Hanson's ancestors first lived on the farm in 1870, they'd be better off now.

He also feels obliged to do some handwaving in favor of illegals and "diversity" - a mild form of virtue signaling. I wish conservatives felt comfortable just making their points without qualifying them, due to the reflexive fear that's been ingrained in them by leftists. No matter how much Hanson tries to sound moderate, leftists will still hate him. We don't even owe the left a passing nod with respect to their points.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 20, 2018 12:07 PM (/qEW2)

62 You know those annual online trainings they make you do, so you can demonstrate you're with the program?

********

Burt- you nailed it. I might be tempted to suspect that you copy/pasted that straight from the module and snuck it out of the room past the proctor on a thumb drive. Bold work young man!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 12:07 PM (m45I2)

63 Time to get the gun thread started?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yauqsqx3

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:07 PM (busJo)

64 I'm totally over the "diversity" bullshit. Diversity itself is neutral. There's nothing inherently good about diversity. At best it's empty feel good buzzword crap for dumbfuck academics and HR directors. In its worst form, as applied, it's sugar coating for deliberate tribal fragmentation of society and revenge politics based on race, sex and age.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2018 12:08 PM (aROE4)

65 the Asians vs Harvard article makes me mad
Asians are the group that most value education,so they are punished for it

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 20, 2018 12:08 PM (dMvl+)

66 You know who founded the DNA company Warren tested with?
Posted by: HA at October 20, 2018 12:02 PM (MAstk)

...is it Hitler?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:09 PM (y87Qq)

67 Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:07 PM (cfSRQ)

Heard a rumor Trump will be going to MI.

Not confirmed yet.

Posted by: HA at October 20, 2018 12:09 PM (MAstk)

68 Most diversity advocates that I have run across tend to define diversity as a state of existence where everybody thinks just like them.

Things that make me raise one eyebrow.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 12:04 PM (m45I2)

Didn't James Watt, a Reagan cabinet member get in trouble for saying exactly this way back in the '80s? Oh he used terms you're not supposed to use--"Negro", "cripple"--but his essential point--that liberals love diversity as long as they all parrot the same line--got lost in the in the shuffle as everyone focused on the indelicate way he said it.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 12:09 PM (NFEMn)

69 Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:09 PM (y87Qq)

Close.

Warren's ex-husband.

Hmmmm

Posted by: HA at October 20, 2018 12:10 PM (MAstk)

70 >>the Asians vs Harvard article makes me mad
Asians are the group that most value education,so they are punished for it

To be fair, so are white people.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2018 12:10 PM (3wGnw)

71 Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

Orwellian
Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2018 12:06 PM (3wGnw)

Yup. I'm picturing a government entity that has 100,000 employees, a budget in the tens of billions, doing things that... not 50 non-government connected people could tell you what they do.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:10 PM (cY3LT)

72 56
I also hear how great Canada is, and I am sure it is a lovely country.
But, I hear there is better education, better health care, nicer people,
and so on. Why so the illegal immigrants stop here then? If Canada is
this perfect utopia....why don't they keep moving northward? I don't get
it. Again, I am not being cheeky.

Posted by: TickledPink at October 20, 2018 11:57 AM (TL2pK)

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They are moving north and it's freaking out actual Canadians.

Living in a border state, I get more info on Canadian politics and their provincial elections have been disaster for Trudeau. Quebec went for an upstart "Quebec First!" party in a big way and Ontario also turned against the Liberals.

Turns out even the Canucks aren't thrilled about being the Lagos of the Great White North.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:10 PM (cfSRQ)

73 Speed the Day of the Rake!

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2018 12:11 PM (aROE4)

74 Speaking of diversity, Stevie Nicks is on the ballot this year for Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame. If she gets voted in she will be the first woman to get inducted both as part of a band and as a solo artist. So naturally the Diversity Checkbox Mafia is all in on Stevie getting the nod.

Hey how about Joan Jett or Lita Ford instead?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:11 PM (busJo)

75 >>not 50 non-government connected people could tell you what they do.

Simple.

They shuffle money from the private sector into their own pockets and the pockets of their friends and families.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2018 12:11 PM (3wGnw)

76 >>Speaking of diversity, Stevie Nicks is on the ballot this year for Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame.

Just induct a screaming goat. Same thing.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2018 12:12 PM (3wGnw)

77 Stupid geometry joke.

https://bit.ly/2ECj84V

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2018 12:12 PM (5Mk4N)

78 74
Speaking of diversity, Stevie Nicks is on the ballot this year for
Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame. If she gets voted in she will be the first
woman to get inducted both as part of a band and as a solo artist. So
naturally the Diversity Checkbox Mafia is all in on Stevie getting the
nod.

Hey how about Joan Jett or Lita Ford instead?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:11 PM (busJo)

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She was quite the dish back in the day...

Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:12 PM (cfSRQ)

79 You know those annual online trainings they make you do, so you can demonstrate you're with the program?

********

Burt- you nailed it. I might be tempted to suspect that you copy/pasted that straight from the module and snuck it out of the room past the proctor on a thumb drive. Bold work young man!
Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 12:07 PM (m45I2)

Heh, no, it's just all my annual training was due either yesterday or today, and I still have some to get done. It's impossible to do this damned training nonsense, and do actual, you know, work.

So I'll be finishing up here at home. That's my diversity. Work at home.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:12 PM (cY3LT)

80 Should be Consumer Financial Protection Racket

"Nice little credit rating you have there. It'd be a shame if something happened to it."

Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 12:13 PM (m45I2)

81 Just induct a screaming goat. Same thing.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2018 12:12 PM (3wGnw)

---
She has prettier posters.

Well, prettier to some people. Maybe goats are your thing. I don't judge...

Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:13 PM (cfSRQ)

82 Capisce?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 12:13 PM (m45I2)

83 California desperately needs a Hispanic Ronald Reagan.

Working-class Mexican-Americans get utterly screwed by State policies written by Silicon Valley billionaires (doubling the price of electricity is minor in Palo Alto, and huge in Bakersfield, where it is 105 all summer).

We need a political willing to call California out on that who can't simply be bought off by the state establishment.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 20, 2018 12:13 PM (I2/tG)

84 Diversity is wonderful! That is why smart, woke Progressives build bridges out of steel, and hotdogs, and twine, and tabbouleh, and free-range flax cloth, and used tampons, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and little bits out of plastic bags that came out of a clinic in Philadelphia. So diverse!

Posted by: Florida International University at October 20, 2018 12:14 PM (Elzyw)

85 RSPILF

https://bit.ly/2S4WBQz

Red Sea Pedestrian

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2018 12:14 PM (5Mk4N)

86 Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:07 PM (cfSRQ)

Heard a rumor Trump will be going to MI.

Not confirmed yet.
Posted by: HA at October 20, 2018 12:09 PM (MAstk)

Oh, that would be good. So good.

I'd like to see a Trump rally for James here in town, both of them on stage, and a protest outside the barricades full of TRUMP = RACIST signs. On WLNS-TV. I want this very much.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:15 PM (y87Qq)

87
Trainwreck.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Caravan wreck

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2018 12:15 PM (4mUNO)

88 TickledPink at October 20, 2018 12:04 PM

Not just the cold. It is an interesting thing to try to understand why any one city is located in the place where it is.

Why was San Francisco established where it is, for example. Hudson's Bay, Ontario for another. (Founded by a fur trading company.) Why did San Francisco grow and Hudson's Bay didn't?

Then there is Siberia.
https://todiscoverrussia.com/top-7-major-cities-in-siberia/

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 12:15 PM (oYD2h)

89 not 50 non-government connected people could tell you what they do.

--------------
Simple.

They shuffle money from the private sector into their own pockets and the pockets of their friends and families.
Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2018 12:11 PM (3wGnw)

Fine! I shall rephrase: Not 50 non-gov people could tell you what they say they're supposed to be doing, if they actually did something that was supposed to be useful for the protection of consumers, because they don't do it, and nobody knows whether they do it or not, because there's no one checking to see if they're doing it, because nobody really cares whether they do or don't do what they are supposed to do.

Clearer?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:15 PM (cY3LT)

90 >>Speaking of diversity, Stevie Nicks is on the ballot this year for Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame.
-----------------------------------------------------------

I like Stevie Nicks as a part of Fleetwood Mac. Some of the stuff she did in the late '70's with them is great. And she was hot back then.
But for her to even be considered for inclusion of her solo work--a couple good songs, a lot of mediocrity--tells you all you need to know that the R&RHoF is a joke.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 12:16 PM (NFEMn)

91 You want a Mexican Ronald Reagan.
You'd settle for a Mexican Pete Wilson.
You'll get a Mexican Jerry Brown.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2018 12:16 PM (H5knJ)

92 @46. -Didn't Mulvaney ask for a zero dollar budget?

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He did. But one of the ways that the CFPB is independent of Congress is that it's allowed to keep and use the money that it collects in fines imposed against "wrong doers". So unfortunately, that doesn't mean that the agency doesn't have a budget. It just means that Mulvaney has decided to burn through the cash reserves.

Posted by: junior at October 20, 2018 12:16 PM (ElaZR)

93 I also hear how great Canada is, and I am sure it is a lovely country.
But, I hear there is better education, better health care, nicer people,
and so on. Why so the illegal immigrants stop here then? If Canada is
this perfect utopia....why don't they keep moving northward? I don't get
it. Again, I am not being cheeky.

Posted by: TickledPink at October 20, 2018 11:57 AM (TL2pK)

Under Trudeau, the government likes to pick its refugees. 25,000 Syrians? Sure, let them in with little or no background checks. People coming across the US border from further south? Not as great in the PR department. As well, the Syrians really stretched resources in the areas where they were being settled so when people were starting so show up from the south (particularly Haitians who had been staying in the US after the earthquake and their time had run out), the government put out a "Sorry, don't expect us to welcome you with open arms."

That being said, Canada's refugee system is much more lenient than its regular immigration system. If you're just a Joe Average wanting to immigrate to Canada via regular channels, good luck.

As for diversity? A lot of the provincial governments along with the federal government push it, including hiring and all the way through public policymaking. The Canadian military is especially being smacked around with this. They're buying planes and ships and other equipment from other countries that otherwise would be designated for the scrap heap because it's too expensive to buy new, but doggone it, we need 25% representation from women and minorities because that will bring greater diversity of thought! For perspective, there are more active duty US Marines than the entire Canadian military combined. Last I heard the women/minority representation in the Canadian military is about 14.2%.

Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2018 12:17 PM (tT986)

94 Speaking of diversity, Stevie Nicks is on the ballot this year for Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame. If she gets voted in she will be the first woman to get inducted both as part of a band and as a solo artist. So naturally the Diversity Checkbox Mafia is all in on Stevie getting the nod.

Hey how about Joan Jett or Lita Ford instead?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:11 PM (busJo)

Well, Stevie had an abortion. So, that gives her progressive cred.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at October 20, 2018 12:17 PM (3sjI6)

95 3 There are lots of places diversity isn't a good idea
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 11:28 AM (T4oHT)

"There aren't nearly enough Giants jerseys on the Eagle's offensive line to represent the world's football fans at large. I find it offensive, indefensible, incorrigible, dubious, and spurious."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2018 12:17 PM (BRvh1)

96 Heh, no, it's just all my annual training was due either yesterday or today, and I still have some to get done. It's impossible to do this damned training nonsense, and do actual, you know, work.

* ******

So my employer's administrative minions have threatened to deny me access to the functioning electronic medical record if I don't complete a training module that doesn't even apply to my section. So preventing me from doing my work will be my punishment. I'm not exactly seeing the downside here.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 12:18 PM (m45I2)

97 Hey how about Joan Jett or Lita Ford instead?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:11 PM (busJo)

Pretty sure Joan Jett is already in....

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 12:18 PM (NFEMn)

98 He did. But one of the ways that the CFPB is independent of Congress is that it's allowed to keep and use the money that it collects in fines imposed against "wrong doers". So unfortunately, that doesn't mean that the agency doesn't have a budget. It just means that Mulvaney has decided to burn through the cash reserves.

Posted by: junior at October 20, 2018 12:16 PM (ElaZR)

Didn't Mulvaney ask that Congress change the law so that funding comes not through the Federal Reserve, but by Congressional appropriation?

Oh, I see the problem...

Posted by: blaster at October 20, 2018 12:18 PM (VhKw6)

99 I also hear how great Canada is, and I am sure it is a lovely country. But, I hear there is better education, better health care, nicer people, and so on. Why so the illegal immigrants stop here then? If Canada is this perfect utopia....why don't they keep moving northward? I don't get it. Again, I am not being cheeky.
Posted by: TickledPink

Canadian national identity is based on being the Not Americans. They really have nothing else. They won't tell you about crushing regulatons, ridiculous taxes, general conformism demanded in daily life. Ask a canadian why every single gov't sign an notice MUST be published in both English and French? Why do only flient French speakers become political successes in Ottawa?

>why don't they keep moving northward?

Winters are long, dark and freaking cold.

Posted by: Krampus at October 20, 2018 12:18 PM (QuUwV)

100 Several years ago-It might have been one this site-somebody posted and rticle responses to some diversity questionnaire with questions such as "What you tell Ravi who is being insensitive to Aisha?" Answer "Don't be a jerk dude." It got more hilarious after that. I think the employee had been through numerous questionnaries like this and just got tired of them. It can't find it it one the internet, though.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2018 12:19 PM (AllCR)

101 If climate is why illegals don't go to Canada, someone is going to have to explain Chicago, which has a lot of them and gets plenty cold.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2018 12:19 PM (H5knJ)

102 You'll get a Mexican Jerry Brown.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2018 12:16 PM (H5knJ)

"A Mexican Jerry Brown" sounds like the kinda dirty thing you need Urban Dictionary for....

"She turned out the lights on me while I was still reading, so I snuck into the kitchen, got some twizzlers, some fake chest hair, and a bottle of tabasco, and I came back to the bedroom and gave her a Mexican Jerry Brown..."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2018 12:20 PM (BRvh1)

103 Diversity, of itself, is morally neutral. There is nothing inherently moral about increasing diversity. And it can be destructive if it tears the fabric of a country apart.
Yet too many imbeciles in power spout off about diversity being strength. To that I say, bullshit, horseshit and codswallop.
The idiocy of that meme of dumbassery is deepened by the desperate fear said imbeciles have in regard to diversity of thought.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at October 20, 2018 12:20 PM (eAMlh)

104 Just induct a screaming goat. Same thing.

Posted by: garrett at October 20, 2018 12:12 PM (3wGnw)

---
She has prettier posters.

Well, prettier to some people. Maybe goats are your thing. I don't judge...
Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:13 PM (cfSRQ)

She showed up on an episode of American Horror Story a few seasons ago, the one that was about witches, which was a fantastic season for that show, by the way.

They made this big deal about her being there (she was playing herself). She just looked like a typical old lady to me. I never got the appeal of her. Vaseline smeared photos of an ordinary looking chick, who can't sing, dressed in silly gauzy outfits.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:20 PM (cY3LT)

105 "There aren't nearly enough Giants jerseys on the Eagle's offensive line to represent the world's football fans at large. I find it offensive, indefensible, incorrigible, dubious, and spurious."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2018 12:17 PM (BRvh1)

I find it dirigible, pecuniary, numinous, marsupial, and tautological.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:20 PM (y87Qq)

106 GAAAAAH!! So much diversity!!! Can't concentrate on the stupid quiz questions I have to answer to get out of this crazy Kafka loop training I'm in!!!!!!!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 11:49 AM (cY3LT)

For now I do IT contracting work and no longer have to take the indoctrination courses. I do remember them and they made the old Soviet indoctrination propaganda pieces look like thoughtful and incisive.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 20, 2018 12:21 PM (clzct)

107 Like global warming, it's too late to do anything about illegal immigration.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 20, 2018 12:21 PM (z2W2E)

108
Oh, that would be good. So good.

I'd like to see a Trump rally for James here in town, both of them
on stage, and a protest outside the barricades full of TRUMP = RACIST
signs. On WLNS-TV. I want this very much.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:15 PM (y87Qq)

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I would expect him to come. He endorsed James, his son did a rally.

I also expect it to be closer to the election to juice turnout, just as his famous midnight rally did in 2016. He seems to be targeting areas based on putting seats out of reach and demoralizing the Dems, hence hitting Arizona when McSally is starting to open up a gap.

The goal is to demoralize the Dems in the seats they need to keep/thought they would gain and get the GOP fired up. Then he can hit the more marginal states to create the wave effect.

The guy knows strategy.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:22 PM (cfSRQ)

109
So my employer's administrative minions have threatened to deny me access to the functioning electronic medical record if I don't complete a training module that doesn't even apply to my section. So preventing me from doing my work will be my punishment. I'm not exactly seeing the downside here.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 12:18 PM (m45I2)
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My employer stopped inviting me to this sort of thing because I don't take anything seriously and am generally disruptive.

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2018 12:22 PM (CQ8KO)

110 "What happens when the left's goal of diversity runs into either reality or some of their other goals?"

VDH notes that those pushing the "diversity dream" hardest are generally not "living the dream/nightmare"... they live away from the effects, but profit in various ways.

It has long been my contention that the illegal invasion has been domestic enemy action from the get go. VDH lists several downsides to the illegal and lopsided (not diverse) "invasion".

This 1965 immigration (now open border, global trade) policy makes most sense if it is seen in its root source ... BigMoney and Commie influence that are both (if they are indeed separate) intent on a New World Order, and an end of the powerful American sovereign nation.

There may be a lot of "cult members" (LIVs) that actually believe in "Diversity Dogma", but at the root is sedition and a nefarious DeepState ... who perhaps answer to a handful of trillionaires (Soros types) who have bought DC and (covertly) rule the Swamp from their shadowy hideaways. Their mechanisms are being exposed, which is why the fight has turned so ugly. imo

Posted by: illiniwek at October 20, 2018 12:22 PM (Cus5s)

111
Canada is a little too cold for melanin enhanced individuals.

How about the Somali in Maine, Ohio and Minnesota?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2018 12:23 PM (4mUNO)

112 wearing my old Cruz shirt and MAGA hat

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2018 12:23 PM (H0mNd)

113 Asians are the group that most value education,so they are punished for it

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Corny Hirohito and Ted Lieu are doing their best to fight the hateful stereotype that Asians are smart.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2018 12:24 PM (5Mk4N)

114 You'll get a Mexican Jerry Brown.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2018 12:16 PM (H5knJ)

"A Mexican Jerry Brown" sounds like the kinda dirty thing you need Urban Dictionary for....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2018 12:20 PM (BRvh1)

All the downtown ladies call him "Treetop Lover".
All the men just call him "sir".

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:24 PM (y87Qq)

115 A screaming goat? Well knowing some of the story about the band, one might have been involved in the sexual hi-jinks. It seemed like everyone was in each other's bed at least once, or in the case of Mick multiple times.

Did Joan Jett make it? Not a clue don't pay attention to giving preening popinjays another ego stroke.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:24 PM (busJo)

116 A Mexican Ronald Reagan

Señor Gorbachev, tear down this wall, ese!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2018 12:25 PM (m45I2)

117 She showed up on an episode of American Horror Story
a few seasons ago, the one that was about witches, which was a
fantastic season for that show, by the way.

They made this big deal about her being there (she was playing
herself). She just looked like a typical old lady to me. I never got
the appeal of her. Vaseline smeared photos of an ordinary looking
chick, who can't sing, dressed in silly gauzy outfits.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:20 PM (cY3LT)

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Well now, yeah.

But back in the day she was a byword for hawt. Not a huge fan of her voice, either.

For the record, I was too young to carry a torch (I'm only 29). But the older guys seemed quite into her.

She kind of prefigured Britney Spears if you think about it: mediocre voice, but eminently doable.

Except Nicks didn't have the jailbait vibe.

Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:25 PM (cfSRQ)

118 If climate is why illegals don't go to Canada, someone is going to have to explain Chicago, which has a lot of them and gets plenty cold.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2018 12:19 PM

Somalis settling in Minnesota was always a puzzle for me. Turns out there was/is a Christian Church who is responsible for refugee resettlement and they get money from the US Government for the humanitarian work they do. (Faith based humanitarian relief foreign outreach NGO. Lutherans, I think, working with George W Bush, as I remember it. )

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 12:25 PM (oYD2h)

119 Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:00 PM (busJo)

This one cracks me up..........

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybgw9fnh

Posted by: Molly k. at October 20, 2018 12:25 PM (lFE7L)

120 Heading over to the MoMee in a little bit!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2018 12:27 PM (CQ8KO)

121 After the fall of Saigon, the US government dumped a bunch of Vietnamese refugees in Minnesota who promptly migrated either to California or the Gulf Coast.

And they still haven't learned a thing, the government that is.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:27 PM (busJo)

122 Re: Trump's rallies

I think he even mentioned wanting to visit California to campaign for Cox (the Republican candidate for governor here).

Posted by: junior at October 20, 2018 12:27 PM (ElaZR)

123 I would expect him to come. He endorsed James, his son did a rally.
Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:22 PM (cfSRQ)

I got an email from him a week or so ago:

"Friend, I had the honor of meeting with President Trump in the Oval Office to discuss our shared goal of making Michigan, and America, great again..."

I knew PDT had endorsed him, and I'd be very surprised if he didn't have a close eye on this election. It would be not-unexpected but very welcome if he did come out and do a rally here.

Also just thought I'd note that John James emailed me personally and addressed me as "friend", which, y'know, no big deal.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:29 PM (y87Qq)

124 If climate is why illegals don't go to Canada,
someone is going to have to explain Chicago, which has a lot of them and
gets plenty cold.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2018 12:19 PM (H5knJ)

It's also easier to disappear in the US. Canada's got a population of less than 40 million and a lot of it concentrated in just a few cities, so there are less options for not only where to live but also for blending in, so to speak. You're not going to find huge enclaves of Spanish-speakers in Canada.
As well, I can be corrected by a current Canadian resident about this, but from my time living there provinces require residency status before you can take advantage of health care services without having to pay up. So best thing to do is claim refugee status in order to get that along with other welfare goodies.

Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2018 12:29 PM (tT986)

125 I like Stevie's duets with Tom Petty.

Posted by: kallisto at October 20, 2018 12:30 PM (Mh0FI)

126 How about the Somali in Maine, Ohio and Minnesota?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2018 12:23 PM (4mUNO)

Brought in to "enhance diversity". And turn wherever they live into a 3rd world shithole.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at October 20, 2018 12:30 PM (3sjI6)

127 Have fun Weasel, IllTemperedCur, and all other MoMe attendees. Please give my regards to Ben Had and also to your wonderful selves.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:31 PM (y87Qq)

128 >Why stop in an overpopulated country, riddled with crime, when they could go to the Great White North?

90% of all Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border. Most of Canada is a frozen swamp.

(BTW, I have family on both sides of the border. They're insufferable.)

Posted by: Krampus at October 20, 2018 12:31 PM (QuUwV)

129 Liawatha also wrote a book an bankruptcy and then TADA lost all of her work proven her theories.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 20, 2018 12:32 PM (JFO2v)

130 127 Have fun Weasel, IllTemperedCur, and all other MoMe attendees. Please give my regards to Ben Had and also to your wonderful selves.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:31 PM (y87Qq)
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Will do!

Posted by: Weasel at October 20, 2018 12:32 PM (CQ8KO)

131 Not far from my house there's an extremely wealthy (I couldn't afford as much as a vacant lot there even if I liquidated all my assets) almost entirely white neighborhood across the river from a poor, dangerous (drugs are sold in the open, stores are robbed on a monthly basis) almost entirely hispanic neighborhood. This stark contrast between these two entirely homogenous neighborhoods is nonetheless claimed to be "diversity and multiculturalism" by city officials, when in reality it's just the opposite, caused by the same forces VDH described in his article.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 20, 2018 12:33 PM (o4fG0)

132 The suit brought by Justine Damond's family for her murder has been placed on hold until after the murder trial of Somali police officer Noor who is charged with killing Justine.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:33 PM (busJo)

133 Diversity always works 1 way.

Blacks are 12% pop but close to 20% of Federal workers.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 20, 2018 12:34 PM (JFO2v)

134 But....ultimately, isn't it just that America is weak? Half the people don't even want to enforce laws. Law enforcement officers have adopted a don't ask, don't tell policy.

The illegals know that Americans just don't have the cajones to send them back.

And frankly, that ticks me off. The greatest military on the face of the Earth. The greatest nation on the face of the Earth. A history of standing up in the face of evil and showing no mercy. And, these people think America is weak. And when it comes to immigration, we are.

Posted by: TickledPink at October 20, 2018 12:34 PM (TL2pK)

135 As I understsnd it, that's how WI got the Hmong - federal money was involved. At least those folks fought a war on our side. I've never understood how someone looked at Somalia and saw future Americans.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 20, 2018 12:34 PM (H5knJ)

136 How aboot the Somalis in Minnesota,Maine and Ohio...

Aaaah you mean the little know branch tribe the SOMESKIMOS......

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2018 12:35 PM (5IHGB)

137
Ciao

Waving to all of you from Venice. Out on our apartments terrace, sipping on prosecco, watching the boats and listening to the church bells.

All of you morons in Texas and Ohio tonight....have tons of fun and try to keep your pants on.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 20, 2018 12:35 PM (0jT1t)

138 120 Heading over to the MoMee in a little bit!

Say hello to everyone from Me at ANDREWS

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2018 12:35 PM (7Xbcu)

139 Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:20 PM (cY3LT)

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Well now, yeah.

But back in the day she was a byword for hawt. Not a huge fan of her voice, either.

For the record, I was too young to carry a torch (I'm only 29). But the older guys seemed quite into her.

She kind of prefigured Britney Spears if you think about it: mediocre voice, but eminently doable.

Except Nicks didn't have the jailbait vibe.
Posted by: K.N. McBride at October 20, 2018 12:25 PM (cfSRQ)

It has always been my impression that rock and roll chicks (I don't know about the music biz these days) were graded on a scale that gave them an extra point or two, because they were rock and roll chicks.

So take Stevie's bandmate, Christine McVey (sp?). At best, she'd be about a 4-5 on human terms. As a rock and roll chick, she's a 6.

Or the aforementioned Joan Jett, I remember looking at pictures of her that people had on their walls. I couldn't stand her music, so I'd be wondering "what's the appeal?" Yeah, all dolled up, snarly and covered in leather or whatever, she'd be about... what, a 7? But if you look the outfits and the makeup off, and saw her in a mall, she'd be a 5.

Don't even get me started on Lita Ford.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:35 PM (cY3LT)

140 The Gardening Thread is up. Or you can stick around here if you have non-gardening, non-nature topics in mind.

Posted by: KT at October 20, 2018 12:36 PM (BVQ+1)

141 90% of all Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border. Most of Canada is a frozen swamp.

(BTW, I have family on both sides of the border. They're insufferable.)

Posted by: Krampus at October 20, 2018 12:31 PM (QuUwV)

The 90% is correct. The frozen swamp part, not so much.

Posted by: Vendette, being slightly insufferable at October 20, 2018 12:39 PM (tT986)

142 Thank you KT for posting the garden thread for nature discussion and also the underthread for those of us who prefer unnatural topics.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:39 PM (y87Qq)

143 Not far from my house there's an extremely wealthy (I couldn't afford as much as a vacant lot there even if I liquidated all my assets) almost entirely white neighborhood across the river from a poor, dangerous (drugs are sold in the open, stores are robbed on a monthly basis) almost entirely hispanic neighborhood. This stark contrast between these two entirely homogenous neighborhoods is nonetheless claimed to be "diversity and multiculturalism" by city officials, when in reality it's just the opposite, caused by the same forces VDH described in his article.
Posted by: Surfperch at October 20, 2018 12:33 PM (o4fG0)

The general region where I work, I have to drive through the area where there are gated communities, bordering within spitting distance of places you DON'T want to be at night, especially if you live there.

And yet all the yuppies are happy joy joy springing around during daylight hours, patting themselves on the back at how diverse they are.

The only "diverse" people allowed into their gated communities though, are the ones coming to mow their lawns and fix their pipes and such.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:40 PM (cY3LT)

144 *Waves to all of today's MoMee attendees*

Posted by: Vendette, being slightly insufferable at October 20, 2018 12:40 PM (tT986)

145 The 90% is correct. The frozen swamp part, not so much.

--

Oh you should see what happens to permafrost when the forests are cut down. (Increased heating due to sunlight reaching the ground.)

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 12:41 PM (oYD2h)

146 Posted by: Krampus at October 20, 2018 12:31 PM (QuUwV)

The 90% is correct. The frozen swamp part, not so much.
Posted by: Vendette, being slightly insufferable at October 20, 2018 12:39 PM (tT986)

I do like maps, and one of the things that have changed about this world, is Google maps, with Google earth and satellite imagery, have changed how we can see some of this.

But back in the day, it was fascinating to me, to look at a map of Canada (or similarly, the old Soviet Union), see vast areas that are absolutely unpopulated, except for occasional dots here and there, and the maps would show all this blue area, large bodies of water, lakes and rivers of all sizes, and it's impossible to imagine what it actually looked like. In reality. Because nobody ever sees it.

Until Google Earth came along. Now we kinda sorta know. And the mystery is gone. Still lovely, I'm sure, but not as fascinating to me as the flat, paper maps.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:44 PM (cY3LT)

147 Hope the MoMe-ers have a great weekend with a minimum of negative consequences!

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2018 12:47 PM (4HMW8)

148 I will do an online jigsaw puzzle of a scene in Venice in your honor.

Have a great time!

Posted by: Emmie at October 20, 2018 12:49 PM (4HMW8)

149 ..for those of us who prefer unnatural topics.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:39 PM (y87Qq)

DON'T JUDGE, H8TR!

Posted by: Gay Furries at October 20, 2018 12:50 PM (cY3LT)

150 So the Democrats in so Florida decided that it would be a very good idea to bring Pelosi and Barbara Lee, both known Castro apologists, to Miami to fundraise and support Gillum et al. Lee cancelled her appearance but Pelosi showed up. She was followed by, and cursed and yelled at by a group of anti communist protestors. The whole thing though understandable makes our side look bad.

Now we have another Castro sympathizer Adriano Espaillat coming to Miami tonite to support the Dems including Gillum. I hope protesters behave. The dems are poking Americans of Cuban descent with in your face tactics. This will not go over well. Just saying.

Posted by: Martell at October 20, 2018 12:52 PM (7fxnh)

151 Spartans vs that other school game halted due to weather. We just started getting force 5 winds and the dark just went up a lot. Like, it's ten more dark than it was at 12:30. That's a lot of dark.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:52 PM (y87Qq)

152 ... liberals love diversity as long as they all parrot the same line--
...
Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 12:09 PM (NFEMn)

This is ironic. If conservatives expect immigrants to assimilate, leftists would say this is racist, cultural genocide.

Yet leftists demand their own form of assimilation. And the ways they go about it are becoming more intrusive and fascist. Like asking university applicants "What have you done to support diversity?"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 20, 2018 12:53 PM (/qEW2)

153 I see the Brony Pony-Grrl wanna-bes have pranced out to yell about 'acceptance' ...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 12:53 PM (busJo)

154 The 90% is correct. The frozen swamp part, not so much.
Posted by: Vendette, being slightly insufferable

Well, there are some pretty parts along the coasts and in the mountains. When it comes to comparative areas of vegetation cover types, though...

Taiga (Boreal Forest) is the largest vegetation region in Canada.

Arctic tundra is the second-largest vegetation region in the country.

www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/
en/article/vegetation-regions

Having been there, frozen swamp seems an accurate shorthand.

Posted by: Krampus at October 20, 2018 12:55 PM (QuUwV)

155 So the Democrats in so Florida decided that it would
be a very good idea to bring Pelosi and Barbara Lee, both known Castro
apologists, to Miami to fundraise and support Gillum et al. Lee
cancelled her appearance but Pelosi showed up. She was followed by, and
cursed and yelled at by a group of anti communist protestors. The whole
thing though understandable makes our side look bad.

Now we have another Castro sympathizer Adriano Espaillat coming to
Miami tonite to support the Dems including Gillum. I hope protesters
behave. The dems are poking Americans of Cuban descent with in your face
tactics. This will not go over well. Just saying.

Posted by: Martell at October 20, 2018 12:52 PM (7fxnh)

What is this "our side" of which you speak?

Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2018 12:55 PM (tT986)

156 The 90% is correct. The frozen swamp part, not so much.

It's true. Half the year, it is a mosquito-infested swamp.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 20, 2018 12:56 PM (I2/tG)

157 Before the game, MSU did their walk of the field while the other team was doing their nails or whatever and Devin Bush got a teensy weensy bit clotheslined and took it personally and defaced the midfield MSU logo.

I imagine a de facto state of war now exists between us and Ann Arbor now. More so than there was before, anyhow.

*sigh*

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:57 PM (y87Qq)

158 Vendette, someone is of the Milquetoast wing of the GOPe it looks like.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 01:01 PM (busJo)

159 I thought Debra was Hot, but album covers can be deceiving, almost every female singer looks hot on an album cover.
The sisters in The Corrs are genuinely hot.

Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at October 20, 2018 01:02 PM (eAMlh)

160 BurtTC at October 20, 2018 12:44 PM

#metoo

I don't do it often, but Northern Canada is as far north as Northern Greenland and the strait the separates the two land masses is only 21 miles wide at the narrowest part in the far north. (Davis Strait)

There are some weather stations up there. Automated I think, accessible only by air, and only populated during the summer months. There are a couple of fishing villages up there, but I can't find them on Bing maps. Google has them, I think.

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 01:03 PM (oYD2h)

161 The sisters in The Corrs are genuinely hot.
Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at October 20, 2018 01:02 PM (eAMlh)

Stunningly so, all three of them each in her own way. Also really good musicians, it is worth noting.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:05 PM (y87Qq)

162 Vendette, someone is of the Milquetoast wing of the GOPe it looks like.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 01:01 PM (busJo)

Yeah, I was probably feeding a troll.

Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2018 01:06 PM (tT986)

163 The 90% is correct. The frozen swamp part, not so much.
Posted by: Vendette, being slightly insufferable

Well, there are some pretty parts along the coasts and in the mountains. When it comes to comparative areas of vegetation cover types, though...

Taiga (Boreal Forest) is the largest vegetation region in Canada.

Arctic tundra is the second-largest vegetation region in the country.

www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/
en/article/vegetation-regions

Having been there, frozen swamp seems an accurate shorthand.
Posted by: Krampus at October 20, 2018 12:55 PM (QuUwV)

Le Sigh... I just did the ol' Google maps trip, to Churchill, Manitoba. Looks lovely.

Except it's infested with a deadly beast that is the scourge of nature and humanity alike:

Globull Warmenists!

Lots of polar bears though. They seem nice.

Posted by: Gay Furries at October 20, 2018 01:06 PM (cY3LT)

164 Before the game, MSU did their walk of the field
while the other team was doing their nails or whatever and Devin Bush
got a teensy weensy bit clotheslined and took it personally and defaced
the midfield MSU logo.

I imagine a de facto state of war now exists between us and Ann Arbor now. More so than there was before, anyhow.

*sigh*

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 12:57 PM (y87Qq)

And now a cold front is adding to the drama.

Posted by: Vendette at October 20, 2018 01:07 PM (tT986)

165 155. Our side= Us.
Those Floridians voting for
Scott
Desantis
Salazar
Aloupis
Republican dog catcher

Posted by: Martell at October 20, 2018 01:08 PM (7fxnh)

166 Need to head off to work. Have fun and don't burn the place down.

https://youtu.be/H_yATzyi-3g

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 20, 2018 01:09 PM (busJo)

167 But one of the ways that the CFPB is independent of Congress is that it's allowed to keep and use the money that it collects in fines imposed against "wrong doers".
Posted by: junior at October 20, 2018 12:16 PM (ElaZR)

Great way to provide an incentive to find "wrongdoers," whether or not they actually did wrong.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:13 PM (YqDXo)

168 In the name of Diversity, a Virginia School district banned Christmas music that is religious.

I don't think they understand the meaning of the word "diversity".

What they want is uniformity without Western Christendom.

Posted by: JAS at October 20, 2018 01:15 PM (3HNOQ)

169 From the previous thread, a bust on the washing machine so far, saw 1 liked, all remonest how machines 25 years ago were made tougher, and somehow price might be a bit cheaper in beginning of next month. So no machine yet.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 01:16 PM (T4oHT)

170 Posted by: Gay Furries at October 20, 2018 01:06 PM (cY3LT)

Crap! Get off!!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:17 PM (cY3LT)

171 Skip, get a Speed Queen. Not cheap but built to last

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at October 20, 2018 01:19 PM (EGSGm)

172 The sisters in The Corrs are genuinely hot.
Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at October 20, 2018 01:02 PM (eAMlh)

Stunningly so, all three of them each in her own way. Also really good musicians, it is worth noting.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:05 PM (y87Qq)

I'll see your three Corrs and raise you a pair of Pierces:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzxqFq0Tv1s&list=RDy84CJpbEOxI&index=2

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:19 PM (cY3LT)

173 Face it, diversity to a Leftist is everyone believes as they do

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 01:19 PM (T4oHT)

174 Not far from my house there's an extremely wealthy (I couldn't afford as much as a vacant lot there even if I liquidated all my assets) almost entirely white neighborhood across the river from a poor, dangerous (drugs are sold in the open, stores are robbed on a monthly basis) almost entirely hispanic neighborhood. This stark contrast between these two entirely homogenous neighborhoods is nonetheless claimed to be "diversity and multiculturalism" by city officials, when in reality it's just the opposite, caused by the same forces VDH described in his article.
Posted by: Surfperch at October 20, 2018 12:33 PM (o4fG0)

Self-segregation: how do it work?

The funny part is that take someone from one community and plunk him down in the other, he'd be wildly uncomfortable, regardless of the polarity of the transplantation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:21 PM (YqDXo)

175 Sitting here chuckling to myself . . .

You know, for military 'stuff' (and I know nothing about military), I really want icebreakers because as far as I can tell, we don't have any in working condition. Planes are nice, but are not immediately useful (and repairs for new or old are beyond budget). So I just want a few practical, hard-working icebreakers to protect our northern coasts.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2018 01:22 PM (MIKMs)

176 Looked at them (1G), Maytag and GE

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 01:25 PM (T4oHT)

177 mustbequantum at October 20, 2018 01:22 PM

The US has two polar-class icebreakers. One supports operations on the Antartic ice cap, and the other keeps Lake Superior shipping lanes (iron ore boats) open for as long as is feasible.

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 01:25 PM (oYD2h)

178 The general region where I work, I have to drive through the area where there are gated communities, bordering within spitting distance of places you DON'T want to be at night, especially if you live there.

We went to a party at the house of a friend of many decades standing in a gated community. I felt most ill-at-ease there, as it was apparent that everyone in the place was chi-chi liberal. (Turns out my friend's wife is fashionably liberal, although he is rock-ribbed conservative, and they were all HER friends.) How this marriage works I have no idea.)

But in any case no one seemed to appreciate the dissonance between "gotta love all the brothers" and the "keep THOSE people away from me." The funny part is that there ARE none of "those people" anywhere near this place. The only riff-raff they tried to keep out - unsuccessfully - was me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:26 PM (YqDXo)

179 Pelosi showed up. She was followed by, and
cursed and yelled at by a group of anti communist protestors.

-
And I see that fellow dinners at a restaurant being patronized by Gamera, the War Turtle, rose to his defense when he was harassed by the usual suspects.

See WZ.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2018 01:26 PM (5Mk4N)

180 I would have been happy to buy, put in truck and bring home, muscle into basement and hook it up.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 01:26 PM (T4oHT)

181 The sisters in The Corrs are genuinely hot.
Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at October 20, 2018 01:02 PM (eAMlh)

Stunningly so, all three of them each in her own way. Also really good musicians, it is worth noting.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:05 PM (y87Qq)

I'll see your three Corrs and raise you a pair of Pierces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzxqFq0Tv1s&list=RDy84CJpbEOxI&index=2
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:19 PM (cY3LT)

Well then let's just invite the Corrs AND Mick Fleetwood and bring it full circle back to Fleetwood Mac and, so roundabout, to Stevie Nicks. I like it when things work out that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIi3AZe3Sik

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:26 PM (y87Qq)

182 Mentioned a few times been working over in the county of Bucks past couple weeks, lots of nice rural houses, large yards with the Hate Has No Home Here signs.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 01:28 PM (T4oHT)

183 I really want icebreakers

-
I've found naked Twister really gets a party started.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2018 01:30 PM (5Mk4N)

184 >>>The whole thing though understandable makes our side look bad.

they're calling her out for the right reasons.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 20, 2018 01:30 PM (iF2CZ)

185 If I win the next mega millions I'm buying Skip a new washing machine

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at October 20, 2018 01:32 PM (EGSGm)

186 The sisters in The Corrs are genuinely hot.
Posted by: Northernlurker being f'n insufferable at October 20, 2018 01:02 PM (eAMlh)

Stunningly so, all three of them each in her own way. Also really good musicians, it is worth noting.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:05 PM (y87Qq)

I'll see your three Corrs and raise you a pair of Pierces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzxqFq0Tv1s&list=RDy84CJpbEOxI&index=2
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:19 PM (cY3LT)

Well then let's just invite the Corrs AND Mick Fleetwood and bring it full circle back to Fleetwood Mac and, so roundabout, to Stevie Nicks. I like it when things work out that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIi3AZe3Sik
Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:26 PM (y87Qq)

Well, my thing is, I don't go anywhere near anybody who has anything to do with anybody who has anything to do with popular music.

If you are in the rock and roll hall of fame, I have no use for you.

As I am fond of saying, there a hundreds of competent to stunningly amazing acts that almost nobody knows anything about.

The Pierces are just one example of many. And I'd say, as lovely as they are, they're probably not in my top 50 of acts I love, that if they come to a large city, would be lucky to have 500 people know who they are, and show up to their show.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:33 PM (cY3LT)

187 And I see that fellow dinners at a restaurant being patronized by Gamera, the War Turtle, rose to his defense when he was harassed by the usual suspects.

See WZ.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2018 01:26 PM (5Mk4N)

Oh wow. And Mitch didn't even have to get up from his dinner. More of this kind of thing, please.

https://tinyurl.com/ycl8pf9y

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:33 PM (y87Qq)

188

EKURHULENI, South Africa (AP) - As South Africa's passionate debate over land redistribution grows, one city outside Johannesburg is preparing what the mayor calls a "test case" for the nation - the seizure of hundreds of acres of land from private owners, without paying for it, to build low-cost housing.

Last month, Ekurhuleni's city council voted in favor of forging ahead with "expropriation without compensation," a legal tool that the ruling African National Congress says is necessary to correct the historic injustices of apartheid and distribute land more equitably.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2018 01:34 PM (4mUNO)

189 The US has two polar-class icebreakers. One supports
operations on the Antartic ice cap, and the other keeps Lake Superior
shipping lanes (iron ore boats) open for as long as is feasible. Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 01:25 PM (oYD2h)
=====.

They are very old and need upgrades and repair. I want at least two more.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2018 01:35 PM (MIKMs)

190
It appears that I was wrong and mustbequantum is correct.

From a 2012 article in Arctic Sounder
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7a5eudc

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 01:35 PM (oYD2h)

191 This seems appropriate for this thread -

Dennis Miller reveals what happens if the "migrant caravan" reaches the US before November 6

https://tinyurl.com/y76vbhro

(link goes to Twitchy)

Posted by: junior at October 20, 2018 01:35 PM (bMevx)

192 179. The problem, as we all know, is that the propagandist media will take anything that has the slightest hint of verbal anger on the right and blow it out of proportion. Meanwhile, the left will shoot, hit, threaten, step all over our rights and the media covers it up or ignores it. I want to win it all this November. Everything that matters to us (on the right) is on the line.

Posted by: Martell at October 20, 2018 01:36 PM (7fxnh)

193 *starts doodling floor plan for mega millions dream house*

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at October 20, 2018 01:37 PM (EGSGm)

194 "expropriation without compensation," a legal tool that the ruling African National Congress says is necessary to correct the historic injustices of apartheid and distribute land more equitably.

-
Like John Dillinger did.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 20, 2018 01:37 PM (5Mk4N)

195 We went to a party at the house of a friend of many decades standing in a gated community. I felt most ill-at-ease there, as it was apparent that everyone in the place was chi-chi liberal. (Turns out my friend's wife is fashionably liberal, although he is rock-ribbed conservative, and they were all HER friends.) How this marriage works I have no idea.)

But in any case no one seemed to appreciate the dissonance between "gotta love all the brothers" and the "keep THOSE people away from me." The funny part is that there ARE none of "those people" anywhere near this place. The only riff-raff they tried to keep out - unsuccessfully - was me.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:26 PM (YqDXo)

I have absolutely no interest in going into their gated communities. I wouldn't go if invited, and don't care what I was invited for.

I drive past them, and they put stoplights outside their gates, stopping major thoroughfares for interminably long periods of time... just in case ONE of their privileged few needs to exit for some reason.

The only vehicles I EVER see going in or coming out are the help. Of various sorts. Mostly landscraping.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:38 PM (cY3LT)

196 There was no "Dream of Diversity", just of power.

Lawlessness transformed California into something other than what I moved to in the early 80's. The change was rapid.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2018 01:40 PM (lK7fO)

197 Last month, Ekurhuleni's city council voted in favor of forging ahead with "expropriation without compensation," a legal tool that the ruling African National Congress says is necessary to correct the historic injustices of apartheid and distribute land more equitably.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2018 01:34 PM (4mUNO)

Next up: a totally unexpected, unforeseeable, and ineluctable bout of bad luck.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:41 PM (YqDXo)

198 I've found naked Twister really gets a party started.

Yeah. I like to start on my own and wait for people to join in.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 20, 2018 01:41 PM (fuK7c)

199 > I've found naked Twister really gets a party started.

Yeah. I like to start on my own and wait for people to join in.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 20, 2018 01:41 PM (fuK7c)

Someone's bound to come along with a mat and spinner sooner or later.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:43 PM (y87Qq)

200 I have absolutely no interest in going into their gated communities. I wouldn't go if invited, and don't care what I was invited for.

I drive past them, and they put stoplights outside their gates, stopping major thoroughfares for interminably long periods of time... just in case ONE of their privileged few needs to exit for some reason.

The only vehicles I EVER see going in or coming out are the help. Of various sorts. Mostly landscraping.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:38 PM (cY3LT)

Nor do I, actually, in ordinary circumstances. We only went because I post-doc'ed with this guy many decades ago, and we've remained close friends ever since. He himself tried to get the gate removed, but his chi-chi liberal neighbors wouldn't hear of it. I hadn't realized that his wife was one of the liberals.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:43 PM (YqDXo)

201
The only vehicles I EVER see going in or coming out are the help. Of various sorts. Mostly landscraping.
=====

I always laugh because even the servants have better cars than I do. I'd probably be arrested on 'suspicion' of something toot sweet if I dared to drive around, and I was stopped a time or two with one of my old cars because I looked like I was lost or casing the joints.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2018 01:45 PM (MIKMs)

202 I really want icebreakers

You want to see the progressives scream, have the USCG buy a Russian nuclear-powered one.

Posted by: The ARC of History at October 20, 2018 01:46 PM (I2/tG)

203 Speed Queens are the best!

Posted by: RuPaul at October 20, 2018 01:47 PM (wc+Nc)

204
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yauarcec

One of the smaller icebreakers. Only 240 feet long, 9,000 horsepower.

Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 01:48 PM (oYD2h)

205 Made me laugh

https://twitter.com/FLeWchie/status/1053488261182701568

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at October 20, 2018 01:48 PM (EGSGm)

206 I have absolutely no interest in going into their gated communities. I wouldn't go if invited, and don't care what I was invited for.

I drive past them, and they put stoplights outside their gates, stopping major thoroughfares for interminably long periods of time... just in case ONE of their privileged few needs to exit for some reason.

The only vehicles I EVER see going in or coming out are the help. Of various sorts. Mostly landscraping.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:38 PM (cY3LT)

The folksinger Phil Ochs--who eventually offed himself because of his lack of success--had his fellow Lefties nailed in his song, "Love Me I'm Liberal" from 50+ years ago:

And I love Puerto Ricans and Negroes
As long as they don't live next door
So love me love me love love me
I'm a Liberal!

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 01:49 PM (NFEMn)

207 I have absolutely no interest in going into their gated communities. I wouldn't go if invited, and don't care what I was invited for.

I drive past them, and they put stoplights outside their gates, stopping major thoroughfares for interminably long periods of time... just in case ONE of their privileged few needs to exit for some reason.

The only vehicles I EVER see going in or coming out are the help. Of various sorts. Mostly landscraping.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:38 PM (cY3LT)

Nor do I, actually, in ordinary circumstances. We only went because I post-doc'ed with this guy many decades ago, and we've remained close friends ever since. He himself tried to get the gate removed, but his chi-chi liberal neighbors wouldn't hear of it. I hadn't realized that his wife was one of the liberals.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:43 PM (YqDXo)

I have any number of these folks as colleagues of one sort or another. None of them do I call them friends. I have no interest. I see them in work settings, and get along with them well enough. But in the back of my mind, I picture their nads in a jar in their wife's bathroom cabinet.

Or they're so fully divorced and put away, they're sad sorry morose and whipped automatons. They can't say two sentences without making sure they genuflect in front of the altar of the feminist agenda.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:50 PM (cY3LT)

208 197. See Cuban shithole.
All private property, homes and all businesses, nationalized over night. Grandparents get sick and die over the stress of seeing their lifetime of hard work stolen. Parents leave the shithole. The kids grow up in a free country. The grandchildren get indoctrinated by 'cultural socialists' that more government is the answer and it knows best.
I hate socialists and communists aka progressives and globalists with the hot passion of a 1000 suns.
We must win. We have no other choice.

Posted by: Martell at October 20, 2018 01:50 PM (7fxnh)

209 I always laugh because even the servants have better cars than I do. I'd probably be arrested on 'suspicion' of something toot sweet if I dared to drive around, and I was stopped a time or two with one of my old cars because I looked like I was lost or casing the joints.
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2018 01:45 PM (MIKMs)

LOL. Same here. I was helping the same friend (who's now moved out of the gated community) to power auger out a drain to the street, when a couple of Mexicans drove by and hailed us, evidently thinking we must be Mexicans too. We laughed our asses off.

As my mailman once said to me, "You must be the only gringo in California who does his own yard work."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:51 PM (YqDXo)

210 https://preview.tinyurl.com/yauarcec

One of the smaller icebreakers. Only 240 feet long, 9,000 horsepower.
Posted by: Joe Styzneac at October 20, 2018 01:48 PM (oYD2h)
=====

I want a few more, at the very least. Forget the 'sexy' planes, I want the practical first. Yes, I would like the planes and such available, but first things first.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2018 01:52 PM (MIKMs)

211 The only vehicles I EVER see going in or coming out are the help. Of various sorts. Mostly landscraping.
=====

I always laugh because even the servants have better cars than I do. I'd probably be arrested on 'suspicion' of something toot sweet if I dared to drive around, and I was stopped a time or two with one of my old cars because I looked like I was lost or casing the joints.
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2018 01:45 PM (MIKMs)

They all drive Frod pickemup trucks that need stepladders to get in and out of.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:52 PM (cY3LT)

212 Liberalism is the idea that --because you petition and shill for the rights of "others", you are allowed to hold your own prejudices.
That's why they project so much--and also why "white privilege" is a big thing with them.

Oh, and when a liberal talks about moving to a nice neighborhood because of "good schools", you know he really means "No blacks. Or other undesirables."

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 01:53 PM (NFEMn)

213 I have any number of these folks as colleagues of one sort or another. None of them do I call them friends. I have no interest. I see them in work settings, and get along with them well enough. But in the back of my mind, I picture their nads in a jar in their wife's bathroom cabinet.

Or they're so fully divorced and put away, they're sad sorry morose and whipped automatons. They can't say two sentences without making sure they genuflect in front of the altar of the feminist agenda.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:50 PM (cY3LT)

My friend isn't a wuss, by any means. He's a sort of quiet, low-key, phlegmatic type, and his wife clearly defers to him (except in politics). I think they just agree not to talk about politics. He does that with me. I'd explode under those circumstances, but I run a lot hotter than he does.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:54 PM (YqDXo)

214 The folksinger Phil Ochs--who eventually offed himself because of his lack of success--had his fellow Lefties nailed in his song, "Love Me I'm Liberal" from 50+ years ago:
Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 01:49 PM (NFEMn)

"Ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally".

Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:55 PM (y87Qq)

215 "Ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally".
Posted by: hogmartin at October 20, 2018 01:55 PM (y87Qq)

And ALWAYS full of shit.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 01:57 PM (NFEMn)

216 Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:50 PM (cY3LT)

My friend isn't a wuss, by any means. He's a sort of quiet, low-key, phlegmatic type, and his wife clearly defers to him (except in politics). I think they just agree not to talk about politics. He does that with me. I'd explode under those circumstances, but I run a lot hotter than he does.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:54 PM (YqDXo)

I'm not sure how all that works. I'm doing a bit of a dance with someone now, she's a few years younger than me, and has been indoctrinated, but otherwise has her head so screwed on straight, it's almost scary.

I can't see this going forward, too far, until we get out in the open, exactly how the politics thing gets handled. It may not. And that might be a deal breaker. Which is a shame. It really is, and I can't or won't say just how badly I want this to work out.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:59 PM (cY3LT)

217
Oh, and when a liberal talks about moving to a nice neighborhood
because of "good schools", you know he really means "No blacks. Or other
undesirables."
=====

Another source of LOL amusement for me: the first time some of the usual east coastie corporate gypsies encounter suburban 'black' or 'hispanic' people. No, they don't do a 'power first' at heated meetings and no, they don't speak Spanish. Absolutely entertaining and worth the admission to boring school board and zoning meetings.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2018 02:02 PM (MIKMs)

218 As my mailman once said to me, "You must be the only gringo in California who does his own yard work."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 01:51 PM (YqDXo)

Ha. Same in South Florida. Before we had to sell and our home and buy a condo for health and financial reasons, I asked my husband's very liberal dermatologist to please tell him to stop mowing the lawn without a hat or shirt.

The doc's shocked response: "Who mows their own lawn anymore!??"

I stopped using that doctor because every time I saw him he went on lefty political rant.

Posted by: girldog at October 20, 2018 02:02 PM (g5YYQ)

219
They all drive Frod pickemup trucks that need stepladders to get in and out of.
=====

And cost almost as much as my house.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2018 02:03 PM (MIKMs)

220 Last practice before qualifying for thed US Grand Prix is on, got to get cat off of me, she's all toasty warm and asleep.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:04 PM (T4oHT)

221 I'm not sure how all that works. I'm doing a bit of a dance with someone now, she's a few years younger than me, and has been indoctrinated, but otherwise has her head so screwed on straight, it's almost scary.

I can't see this going forward, too far, until we get out in the open, exactly how the politics thing gets handled. It may not. And that might be a deal breaker. Which is a shame. It really is, and I can't or won't say just how badly I want this to work out.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:59 PM (cY3LT)

This is a recent phenom that just illustrates how--as the liberals wanted--"politics is personal." It is doubtful that much strife was caused when, in 1960, one partner in a relationship went for Nixon--while the other voted for JFK. Or even in 1980 with Reagan/Carter.
No, the left wanted it this way with their carving up the populace into ever smaller groups with grievances.....

Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 02:07 PM (NFEMn)

222 And that same leftie doctor would complain about uninsured patients asking for cash discounts.

His liberalism stopped short of actually helping the poor himself. Some liberals practice what they preach -- in fact my late father-in-law was one of those who did -- but I suspect most don't

Posted by: girldog at October 20, 2018 02:08 PM (g5YYQ)

223 Last practice before qualifying for thed US Grand Prix is on, got to get cat off of me, she's all toasty warm and asleep.
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:04 PM (T4oHT)

Trump is the Grand Prick(s) of the US!

Posted by: Claire Foy at October 20, 2018 02:09 PM (NFEMn)

224 Forgot about Phil, to bad he probably would have had a resurgence in his career today if alive.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:09 PM (T4oHT)

225 Trump in Texas tomorrow?

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:10 PM (T4oHT)

226 The doc's shocked response: "Who mows their own lawn anymore!??"

I stopped using that doctor because every time I saw him he went on lefty political rant.

Posted by: girldog at October 20, 2018 02:02 PM (g5YYQ)

I'm just practicing, for the end times, when we all have to go back to fending for ourselves. Heaven forbid I don't know how to cut my own grass. How will I survive.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 02:10 PM (cY3LT)

227 I'm just practicing, for the end times, when we all have to go back to fending for ourselves. Heaven forbid I don't know how to cut my own grass. How will I survive.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 02:10 PM (cY3LT)

When you get old and sick it doesn't much matter what skills you used to have.

Posted by: girldog at October 20, 2018 02:12 PM (g5YYQ)

228 Someone on an earlier thread mentioned that he wished Trump would go to NJ because Hugin has a shot at unseating Menendez. First of all, Trump actually spends most weekends at his club in Bedminister--where he is usually greeted by protesters (and some supporters) on the road leading in, but I think it's better to let sleeping dogs lie. Yes, Hugin has a real shot at winning, but a high profile rally (and yes, he could easily fit an arena here) would probably fire up the Left too.

Posted by: Claire Foy at October 20, 2018 02:14 PM (NFEMn)

229 Looks overcast in Austin Tx

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:15 PM (T4oHT)

230 Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:59 PM (cY3LT)

This is a recent phenom that just illustrates how--as the liberals wanted--"politics is personal." It is doubtful that much strife was caused when, in 1960, one partner in a relationship went for Nixon--while the other voted for JFK. Or even in 1980 with Reagan/Carter.
No, the left wanted it this way with their carving up the populace into ever smaller groups with grievances.....
Posted by: JoeF. at October 20, 2018 02:07 PM (NFEMn)

Sad but true. This gal says things like "everything is political," and it's like nails on a chalkboard to me. I wanna say "no, your experience with asshole men in your life is not about politics, they didn't get together and decide to oppress you. It's just that they're assholes."

But no, I don't say it. I just say "yeah, no."

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 02:16 PM (cY3LT)

231 When you get old and sick it doesn't much matter what skills you used to have.

I hope I still have my toofs.

Posted by: Little Lupe at October 20, 2018 02:17 PM (Tyii7)

232 I'm just practicing, for the end times, when we all have to go back to fending for ourselves. Heaven forbid I don't know how to cut my own grass. How will I survive.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 02:10 PM (cY3LT)

When you get old and sick it doesn't much matter what skills you used to have.
Posted by: girldog at October 20, 2018 02:12 PM (g5YYQ)

The world was a nicer place, when old folks in the neighborhood hired the local kid to cut their grass, rather than having 15 crews of mexicans all up and down the street all summer long, with their trailers full of loud assed equipment, running from before sunrise until after sunset.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 02:20 PM (cY3LT)

233 "That's no moon! That's a street light!"
The Chinese city of Chengdu has a rather unusual idea about how to maintain visibility on city streets at night.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybwkncj6

Posted by: junior at October 20, 2018 02:20 PM (bMevx)

234 I wish Trump came to the Philadelphia collar counties, Montgomery, Chester or Bucks. Sure it would be sell out.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:20 PM (T4oHT)

235 "That's no moon! That's a street light!"
The Chinese city of Chengdu has a rather unusual idea about how to maintain visibility on city streets at night.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybwkncj6
Posted by: junior at October 20, 2018 02:20 PM (bMevx)

"Mr Wu said lighting from the artificial moon covering 50 square kilometres in Chengdu could save about 1.2 billion yuan ($240 million) in electricity costs every year."

$240 million a year? For streetlights? Annually?

Yeah, I'm calling bullsh*t on that statistic there, Mr. Woo Tang.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 02:25 PM (cY3LT)

236 I feel for VDH and his situation, but that's not the half of it. Couple days ago I had to visit the local Social Security office to have my new address recorded. While there, waiting to see someone in order to have my address updated, I noted the other people in the room also waiting.

There were a few people there who were obviously either of retirement age and there to get their SS started, and a few others who were obviously disabled. But most of the people there were non citizens there to get signed up for some kind of "disability" payments. And while many were indeed from "south of the border" there were also plenty of Africans, Chinese and the like as well.

And I know none of these people have ever paid a dime into the system, are not citizens of this country, but there they were, getting signed up to feed at the public teat. It is to weep...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at October 20, 2018 02:26 PM (p0pYQ)

237 I'll never understand why some are questioning my complete commitment to diversity.

Posted by: Lieawatha 1024 at October 20, 2018 02:26 PM (Tyii7)

238 Prager points out Leftism has made everything political.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:26 PM (T4oHT)

239 And I know none of these people have ever paid a dime into the system, are not citizens of this country, but there they were, getting signed up to feed at the public teat. It is to weep...
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at October 20, 2018 02:26 PM (p0pYQ)

What cannot continue forever, won't.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 02:29 PM (cY3LT)

240 Lewis Amselem at Diplomad 2.0 recently moved out of California to NC. Couldn't take the politics any more.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:29 PM (T4oHT)

241 Prager points out Leftism has made everything political.
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:26 PM (T4oHT)

So the point of attack, to me, is not to keep fighting against the traditional democrat party groups, but to point out to them, relentlessly, continuously, that the Leftists have screwed them too.

Black people, old people, idiot college students, single women... all of these people have been screwed by the Left.

Time to shout from the rooftops for a new re-alignment. We're not asking you people to become Republicans. We're telling you that if you want to live your life, you HAVE to turn on the Democrat Party.

Kill it dead.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 02:32 PM (cY3LT)

242 Can't let those slant eyes muck up the place with their hard work, and superior achievements. What's gonna happen to the lazy dumb kids?

Posted by: Academia at October 20, 2018 02:35 PM (EzXDh)

243 Black people, old people, idiot college students, single women... all of these people have been screwed by the Left.

Stockholm Syndrome is very difficult to cure.

Posted by: Lieawatha 1024 at October 20, 2018 02:38 PM (Tyii7)

244 LBJ knew what he was doing tieing minorities to Democrats as their savior

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 02:44 PM (T4oHT)

245 Geez all I hear is the horde biatching about their country..panhandlers all..maybe we should parcel out our permafrosties mosquito infested WONDERLAND to you riven by the angst that will not die...naw fuggetabootit....sarc/off.

Those R not mosquitoes but DRONES 'eh.

Posted by: saf at October 20, 2018 02:52 PM (5IHGB)

246 I'm not sure how all that works. I'm doing a bit of a dance with someone now, she's a few years younger than me, and has been indoctrinated, but otherwise has her head so screwed on straight, it's almost scary.

I can't see this going forward, too far, until we get out in the open, exactly how the politics thing gets handled. It may not. And that might be a deal breaker. Which is a shame. It really is, and I can't or won't say just how badly I want this to work out.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 01:59 PM (cY3LT)

I have no idea how it works with these two, but they've been married for over 40 years. Apparently she was gushing when Obama got elected. How she didn't get strangled I'll never know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 02:54 PM (YqDXo)

247 242 Can't let those slant eyes muck up the place with their hard work, and superior achievements.
Posted by: Academia at October 20, 2018 02:35 PM (EzXDh)

Yeah, and screwing up the curve!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 02:55 PM (YqDXo)

248 "Who mows their own lawn anymore!??"

*raises hand*

I just finished the front yard. During the summer I just mow without the bagging attachment, but in the fall I use it to pick up as many leaves as I can without raking. I also did some raking and swept the driveway and sidewalk. I filled four leaf bags today and the leaves have hardly started falling here yet.

I'm trying a new strategy to keep ahead of the leaves this year instead of playing catchup.

I still have to mow the back yard, but there aren't many leaves there yet so I won't bother bagging.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2018 02:57 PM (sdi6R)

249 Black people, old people, idiot college students, single women... all of these people have been screwed by the Left.
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Stockholm Syndrome is very difficult to cure.
Posted by: Lieawatha 1024 at October 20, 2018 02:38 PM (Tyii7)

Difficult? Sure, but can't think of a better time to start applying the cold compresses.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2018 02:58 PM (cY3LT)

250 Michigan in play would be nice. You'd think a black guy running for senate would get some votes in Detroit, right?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2018 03:02 PM (+M3Kr)

251 Re SS office

I too had the same experience. Went to office to get a new card since original was in tatters. At least 60% of the people waiting were non English speakers and under 40. Not a dime into the system and decades of benefits.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2018 03:05 PM (+M3Kr)

252 The general region where I work, I have to drive through the area where
there are gated communities, bordering within spitting distance of
places you DON'T want to be at night, especially if you live there.

Some Moron visited Evanston IL = NorthWestern Chicago the other day and remarked on how nice it was but there were Beto signs everywhere. Some diverse student died of a stray bullet at a bus stop there last month.

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2018 03:06 PM (FhXTo)

253 Pet Nood

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 03:10 PM (T4oHT)

254 And I too mow my lawn. Takes about an hour a week and I enjoy doing it. Among my neighbors, pretty much everyone else does it themselves as well and we like in an upscale suburban hood. Either we are all weirdos or trend setters?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2018 03:10 PM (+M3Kr)

255 Getting reports here of snow, wonderwhere they are, and how high in elevation

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 03:14 PM (T4oHT)

256 but in the fall I use it to pick up as many leaves as I can without raking.

Rake the heavy spots into a line and mow over them 1st without the bag to shred them. Precompacted!

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2018 03:22 PM (FhXTo)

257 I too had the same experience. Went to office to get a new card since original was in tatters. At least 60% of the people waiting were non English speakers and under 40. Not a dime into the system and decades of benefits.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at October 20, 2018 03:05 PM (+M3Kr)

My wife said the same thing.

Que?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 03:24 PM (YqDXo)

258 256
Rake the heavy spots into a line and mow over them 1st without the bag to shred them. Precompacted!
Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2018 03:22 PM (FhXTo)

Thanks! I'll give that a try later. Like I said, the leaves haven't started falling heavily yet.

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2018 03:25 PM (sdi6R)

259 Cultural dissolution, another one discovered.

Perusing wiki in search of Eden a new terminology is presented: BP (before the present), as in 10000 BP.

Yep, no more of that BC and AD (in the year of our Lord) confusion, just a simple BP.

Sounds like a skin infection.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2018 03:25 PM (+RWmb)

260 256 but in the fall I use it to pick up as many leaves as I can without raking.

Rake the heavy spots into a line and mow over them 1st without the bag to shred them. Precompacted!
Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2018 03:22 PM (FhXTo)

I have a leaf blower that also in another configuration accepts an optional vacuum attachment underneath and a bag on the exit port.

Blow the leaves together into piles, switch configuration, suck up the leaves, which are mulched by the impeller, and bag 'em. Easy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 03:26 PM (YqDXo)

261 Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2018 03:06 PM (FhXTo)

Yeah, the student who was killed at the bus stop was the nephew of one of the 'Rons. He'd been in town less than 24 hours if I remember right.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 20, 2018 03:30 PM (uquGJ)

262 Leaves, regrettably, I purchased a small, 2 cycle, leaf blower. Give a do-over I would buy a big one that harnessed the motor on my back.

That blower mulcher combo sounds nice.

I looked for a blower/weed eater combo but they don't exist.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2018 03:48 PM (+RWmb)

263 I rake into pile, or pile onto tarp, get leaves into back then drive tractor over reducing pile to about 1/10 then cart what's left to compost bin.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 03:51 PM (T4oHT)

264 That blower mulcher combo sounds nice.

I looked for a blower/weed eater combo but they don't exist.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2018 03:48 PM (+RWmb)

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They do exist, the Ryobi combo from Home Depot. They have a blower/mulcher attachment, weed whacker and an edger attachment.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 20, 2018 03:54 PM (I16G8)

265 264 That blower mulcher combo sounds nice.

I looked for a blower/weed eater combo but they don't exist.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2018 03:48 PM (+RWmb)

I just checked. Mine is a Toro Ultra Blower Vac.

I've been happy with it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2018 04:01 PM (YqDXo)

266 Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 20, 2018 03:54 PM

He forgot to mention it comes in 4wd, or 6 wheel configuration

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2018 04:03 PM (T4oHT)

267 They do exist, the Ryobi combo from Home Depot. They have a blower/mulcher attachment, weed whacker and an edger attachment.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 20, 2018 03:54 PM (I16G

************

Thanks, but electric is not enough to handle my leaf load.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2018 04:10 PM (+RWmb)

268 Thanks, but electric is not enough to handle my leaf load.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2018 04:10 PM (+RWmb)

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They are gas powered, but only so so with the output.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at October 20, 2018 04:14 PM (I16G8)

269 DaveA, a woman died of a stray bullet in the hospital in Evanston where I was born. It was Mayberry back then. Can never go home again.

Posted by: PJ at October 20, 2018 05:54 PM (qlTN9)

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