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Rembrandt Old Man Military.jpg

Old Man In Military Costume
Rembrandt Harmenszoon van Rijn

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 And called it Macaroni

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2018 09:29 AM (FZYNt)

2 Is this the beginning of a wonderful relationship?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at October 16, 2018 09:29 AM (vcOmj)

3 smile for the camera ...

Posted by: illiniwek at October 16, 2018 09:30 AM (Cus5s)

4 Xe sure is pretty.

Posted by: Dangerously Cheezy at October 16, 2018 09:30 AM (c7sm3)

5 The iron collars wear well, but are difficult to wash and run through the clothes wringer.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at October 16, 2018 09:30 AM (vcOmj)

6
Hmm.... This Fauxcahontas dame. Something stinks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2018 09:31 AM (/9p9e)

7 Looks a bit like an RPG character who would give you a quest that involved gathering nuts.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 09:31 AM (O7MnT)

8 Military fairy - I'll scratch your eyes out...

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2018 09:31 AM (Rr52g)

9 The quality of this painting is really good. It's a real feather in the cap for this artist.

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:32 AM (OyyDO)

10 And called it Macaroni

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2018 09:29 AM (FZYNt)


Darn it!! I was going to say that.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 09:32 AM (lwiT4)

11 Old man, look at my life
I'm a lot like you were

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2018 09:32 AM (FZYNt)

12 Looks like Woody Harrelson.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 16, 2018 09:32 AM (wGbBR)

13 Feather in his cap - certified Fauxcahontas ancestor!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 16, 2018 09:32 AM (dMvl+)

14 Old Man In Military Costume



Let's see him in the indian costume.
Then the policeman costume.
Then the construction worker costume!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 09:32 AM (0mP7b)

15 1 And called it Macaroni

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2018 09:29 AM (FZYNt)

I giggled!

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2018 09:32 AM (cF8AT)

16 Having just turned 53. I think I can relate to the haunted look of the tortured present of the remembered, glorious past....

Posted by: catman at October 16, 2018 09:33 AM (cCkt9)

17 Nice collar piece. I wonder how he pulled it over his head?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 09:33 AM (lwiT4)

18 'Old"?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2018 09:33 AM (cqNba)

19 Must have knocked all his teeth out putting that collar on.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 16, 2018 09:33 AM (KP5rU)

20 How szoon?

Harmenszoon.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 16, 2018 09:33 AM (59mFG)

21 I assume that this military never actually won a battle.

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2018 09:33 AM (Rr52g)

22 He's 1/1024th ostrich.

Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 09:34 AM (Bdeb0)

23 Typical nasty weather

Posted by: Sumdumchief at October 16, 2018 09:34 AM (/DWwy)

24 17. Forged in situ. Quite common at the time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 09:34 AM (fA1SL)

25 Brave, brave Sir Robin

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2018 09:34 AM (Rr52g)

26 i'll bet he called it 'macaroni,' too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 09:35 AM (oVJmc)

27 Zoom in and really look at that plume. I like how the paint's applied to give that really poofy texture.

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:35 AM (OyyDO)

28 Crap. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 09:35 AM (oVJmc)

29 t-bird, from the previous thread - so you're into genealogy?
how far back have you traced your family?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at October 16, 2018 09:35 AM (dMvl+)

30 Wow, that's some feather.

Posted by: dantesed at October 16, 2018 09:35 AM (88xKn)

31 Reminds me of that episode of I Love Lucy, where she wants to be a chorus girl but can't balance the weight of the feathered headpiece, and keeps falling down the steps.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 09:35 AM (lwiT4)

32 He's 1/1024th ostrich.
Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 09:34 AM (Bdeb0)
-----------

By the time it's that diluted, you only wind up with the one feather.

Nice portrait though. I like it.

Posted by: bluebell at October 16, 2018 09:35 AM (U5tDi)

33 That quill in the cap is nice when you need to sign the articles of surrender.

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2018 09:35 AM (Rr52g)

34 " Typical nasty weather"

What????

Posted by: Lady what got her ass tickled with a feather at October 16, 2018 09:36 AM (cqNba)

35 David French?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 16, 2018 09:37 AM (q1VoB)

36 La plume de ma tante en chapeaux.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 09:37 AM (oVJmc)

37 Asshole stole my hat.

Posted by: 17th Century Zombie Huggy-Bear at October 16, 2018 09:37 AM (MouFt)

38 He looked down at the bridge. There were soldiers on it, smoking, probably laughing though he could not hear them. Soldiers are always laughing when they're not killing or dying. He knew this. He also knew that when they were brave enough to die but smart enough to live, they were honored. He had been one such, and a king had given him a feather to wear. The feather was just a symbol, but soldiers who weren't laughing or killing or dying looked at him and said "he is a brave one."Then he had an Aperol spritz and watched a strong bull die a good death.

Posted by: Zod Hemingway at October 16, 2018 09:37 AM (Bdeb0)

39 Old Man In Military Costume

I guess they considered collarbones the most vulnerable organs.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2018 09:37 AM (Z1eux)

40 Military Costume? Yeah, he's French.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 16, 2018 09:38 AM (r9UYA)

41 Early Stolen Valor....I hate those guys.

Posted by: BignJames at October 16, 2018 09:38 AM (0+nbW)

42 My MiL is hugely into genealogy.

So far, over 5,00 ancestors, including Charleston back to the 1600's.

Eh...it gives her something to do, and keeps her off the streets.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2018 09:38 AM (cqNba)

43 I was told that this was to be a costume party. Hence, feather.

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2018 09:38 AM (RuIsu)

44 Nice collar piece. I wonder how he pulled it over his head?
Posted by: grammie winger



Looks like there is a seam at the shoulders. It came apart in two pieces. A front half and a back half.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 09:39 AM (0mP7b)

45 See?! My great grandfather prove my Native American heritage with lovely portrait in tribal garb. Nice feather, brah.

Ugh!
How!

Posted by: Cheif Featherticklesmyass at October 16, 2018 09:39 AM (kJrBS)

46 I guess they considered collarbones the most vulnerable organs.
Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2018 09:37 AM (Z1eux)


It's a decorative gorget. They protect the throat and collarbones, but as time went on became more decorative and used to indicate rank.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 16, 2018 09:39 AM (wCmLp)

47 34. My compliments, BZ!

Posted by: Sumdumchief at October 16, 2018 09:39 AM (/DWwy)

48 44. The seams are decorative. It was forged in situ.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 09:39 AM (fA1SL)

49 how far back have you traced your family?

I didn't trace it, but someone did around 1910. It goes back to the 1500's with little Domesday scraps back to the 1300's.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2018 09:39 AM (Z1eux)

50 Good idea, keeping your pen in your hat.
Not to mention it being mightier then the sword.

Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2018 09:40 AM (8ikIW)

51
Coulda, woulda, shoulda been this ...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/fauxcaonanoldbanjo

For Lizzie!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 09:40 AM (pNxlR)

52 Ahh, the olde sack with feather for a hat. Classic.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 16, 2018 09:40 AM (xfb67)

53 >>decorative gorget
It's a washer. It's worn so that the threads in his neck don't strip when you screw his head into his body.

Posted by: Zod Hemingway at October 16, 2018 09:40 AM (Bdeb0)

54 That was gonna be my Halloween costume!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 16, 2018 09:40 AM (438dO)

55 GOP FL early vote by mail lead rises to 40k.

Posted by: HA at October 16, 2018 09:40 AM (MAstk)

56 Old Man In Military Costume

I guess they considered collarbones the most vulnerable organs.
Posted by: t-bird


Less pressure that a semi-stout trigger pull.
7 lbs of pressure to wipe out an entire side of the body. With the resulting pain pretty much wiping out the other side.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 09:40 AM (0mP7b)

57 "47 34. My compliments, BZ!"

I suspect that we both have much in common.

From jokes to collar devices.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2018 09:40 AM (cqNba)

58 There really isn't enough sheet metal in modern fashion.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 16, 2018 09:41 AM (xfb67)

59 His wife's name is Heather.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 09:41 AM (lwiT4)

60
5 The iron collars wear well, but are difficult to wash and run through the clothes wringer.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at October 16, 2018 09:30 AM (vcOmj)


Don't get me started on the rust stains!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 09:41 AM (pNxlR)

61 So Twitter permanently banned Gay Patriot. Totalitarianism lives.

I keep telling you folks to dump Twitter. It's a tool of liberal despots...

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2018 09:41 AM (VpIIl)

62
The feather helps the sniper to aim.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2018 09:41 AM (BWL+E)

63 >>>how far back have you traced your family?

Dutch Merchants in the 15th Century. (Mom's line)
Swiss farmers and scholars in the 16th Century. (Dad's line)

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 09:42 AM (O7MnT)

64 This is a good example of portraiture. You're able to observe the man's entire life in a few seconds... a life-long soldier, maybe of an upper rank, has seen things, but is still proud and dutiful. His entire personality is right here.

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:42 AM (OyyDO)

65 Painting of new WWE wrestler , Yankee Doodle.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 09:43 AM (/BXzQ)

66 So that's where it went.

Posted by: Big Bird at October 16, 2018 09:43 AM (9qyA/)

67 @22 Zod wins the thread early.

Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2018 09:43 AM (VhKw6)

68 63
>>>how far back have you traced your family?

Cthulhu fhtagn.

Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 09:44 AM (Bdeb0)

69 I suspect that we both have much in common.

From jokes to collar devices.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Theres more than one nut in a can of planters...

Posted by: Sumdumchief at October 16, 2018 09:44 AM (/DWwy)

70 Don't ask where Big Bird's brown feathers come from.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 16, 2018 09:44 AM (xfb67)

71 Looks like Jason Statham's great-great-great-great-great expendable grandfather.

Posted by: Fritz at October 16, 2018 09:44 AM (2Mnv1)

72 Typical nasty weather
Posted by: Sumdumchief at October 16, 2018 09:34 AM (/DWwy)

Great scene. Up the Academy.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 09:45 AM (/BXzQ)

73 Ahh, the olde sack with feather for a hat. Classic.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 16, 2018 09:40 AM (xfb67)

I was thinking Crown Royal bag.

Posted by: BignJames at October 16, 2018 09:45 AM (0+nbW)

74 I have traced my ancestry back to the very early 60's.

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2018 09:45 AM (RuIsu)

75 63 >>>how far back have you traced your family?

Dutch Merchants in the 15th Century. (Mom's line)
Swiss farmers and scholars in the 16th Century. (Dad's line)

Shoveled Shit in Swabia. (15th century back to the ice age)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2018 09:46 AM (V2Yro)

76
More brown shades than were used in an Andrew Wyeth work, I'll give this guy credit for that.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 09:46 AM (pNxlR)

77 Lindsey Graham says he's going to have his DNA tested for Injun. Says he thinks he can "beat" Fauxcahontas.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 16, 2018 09:46 AM (HiLJ1)

78
Can't say I've ever read any Hemingway. Worth the trouble?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2018 09:46 AM (BWL+E)

79
70 Don't ask where Big Bird's brown feathers come from.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 16, 2018 09:44 AM (xfb67)


Everything's A Buck?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 09:47 AM (pNxlR)

80 Wow! Unbelievable use of a limited palette. In some ways a simple painting with the almost bland background that serves to make the model stand out, almost pop out. The subtle colors in the skin tones are clear to the viewer but embiggen the image to see the green tones in the man's eyes that add depth and liveliness.

As you may have noticed, I approve of Rembrandt. LOL

Posted by: JTB at October 16, 2018 09:47 AM (V+03K)

81
Everyone will be a Native American for 15 minutes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2018 09:47 AM (BWL+E)

82 how far back have you traced your family?



Dutch Merchants in the 15th Century. (Mom's line)

Swiss farmers and scholars in the 16th Century. (Dad's line)

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 09:42 AM (O7MnT)



I don't understand how you can do that. Did they keep birth/death/marriage records that far back?

The only way I know my ancestry is from oral history (I knew all my great-grandparents into my double-digits) and family letters, documents etc. But 3 out of 4 of my grandparents all had the same name and all came from Scandinavia. With the name of Johnson? Good luck.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 09:48 AM (lwiT4)

83 Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:42 AM (OyyDO)

Or...

Rembrandt is famous for his self-portraits, so this could be an example of him playing dress-up.

CBD could get a month's worth of material with just Rembrandt self-portraits.

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:48 AM (OyyDO)

84 Zoom in and really look at that plume.


I zoomed in on his eyes. They look steady and confident unenzoomend, but when you zoom in they're tragic and maybe on the verge of tears.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2018 09:48 AM (fuK7c)

85 The guy looks like he's trying to pass gas quietly and not get caught.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 16, 2018 09:48 AM (xfb67)

86 Quick question on Horde lingo, if I may. What is the etymology of "prexy?" From context, it clearly means "President" but the abbreviation is usually something like "prezzy." Where did we end up with "prexy?" I can only think of two things:
1) It is a typo that stuck
2) It is a riff on things like "Latinx" or "Womxn" and is making fun of the SJW language-destroyers.

I have no idea if either of these are right, though. Can anyone enlighten me?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 09:49 AM (I2dne)

87 84. Tulip-peddling clog-wogs have every reason to weep in shame and horror and disgust, but possess, at best, only rudimentary capacity to experience the normal range of human emotions.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 09:49 AM (fA1SL)

88 What's tho funny about my hat? They loved it at the Than Francithco pride parade.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at October 16, 2018 09:50 AM (3sjI6)

89 lol. The Marcus T genealogy has been traced back to diverse places such as the Florentine Empire during the Quattrocento and Little Bighorn...

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2018 09:50 AM (VpIIl)

90 He's getting ready for his bike race against a bunch of girls.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 16, 2018 09:50 AM (Ndje9)

91 >>>I zoomed in on his eyes. They look steady and confident unenzoomend,
but when you zoom in they're tragic and maybe on the verge of tears.

Yeah, well, you'd be on the verge of tears too wearing a feather like this.

Posted by: Old Man In Military Costume at October 16, 2018 09:50 AM (9qyA/)

92 That's kind of how I picture Boulder Terlit Hobo.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at October 16, 2018 09:50 AM (Lw65j)

93 I like the armor.

Posted by: sinalco at October 16, 2018 09:51 AM (yODqO)

94 I zoomed in on his eyes. They look steady and confident unenzoomend, but when you zoom in they're tragic and maybe on the verge of tears.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2018 09:48 AM (fuK7c)

Neat! It completely changes the more you look at it. The deeply-lined, furrowed brow enhances the sadness.

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:51 AM (OyyDO)

95
78
Can't say I've ever read any Hemingway. Worth the trouble?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2018 09:46 AM (BWL+E)


I read his Nick Adams stories. "Big Two-Hearted River" is one. That was sufficient, but that also exhausted his stock of writings about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 09:51 AM (pNxlR)

96 I don't understand how you can do that. Did they keep birth/death/marriage records that far back?

Apparently they did in Holland. The search hits a dead wall around ~1460 because that ancestor was adopted and there's no record of his actual parentage.

My family name is attached to a town in Switzerland, so there is some record of what that part of the family was doing for a long time.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 09:52 AM (O7MnT)

97 Valet parker at the River Palm right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 09:52 AM (9MKXa)

98 Where do Big Bird's brown feathers come from?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 16, 2018 09:52 AM (5zvyt)

99 but that also exhausted his stock of writings about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.



There's not a whole lot you can write about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan other than they be crazy.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 09:53 AM (lwiT4)

100 Apparently they did in Holland. The search hits a dead wall around ~1460 because that ancestor was adopted and there's no record of his actual parentage.

My family name is attached to a town in Switzerland, so there is some record of what that part of the family was doing for a long time.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 09:52 AM (O7MnT)
+++++++++++
Hard to conceive of a place with good record keeping for so long. It reminds of me of something an English colleague once told me:
"In Britain, 200 miles is a long way. In America, 200 years is a long time."

Having a birth or marriage record from 460 years ago is mind-boggling.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 09:53 AM (I2dne)

101 And called it Macaroni



Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2018 09:29 AM (FZYNt)



Darn it!! I was going to say that.


Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 09:32 AM (lwiT4)

Me too! Dangit, Horde-Mind strikes again!

Posted by: pookysgirl at October 16, 2018 09:54 AM (XKZwp)

102 My family name is attached to a town in Switzerland,
so there is some record of what that part of the family was doing for a
long time.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 09:52 AM (O7MnT)


Oh that's cool. Very interesting.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 09:54 AM (lwiT4)

103 So this is Poul Anderson's van Rijn, Trader to the Stars. I thought the old guy was bigger than this.

Posted by: Old Dan, the Muffin Man at October 16, 2018 09:54 AM (oYD2h)

104 I went on Ancestry.com and was able to trace my heritage all the way back to Adam.

Really.

There are some sketchy linkages in there...

Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2018 09:54 AM (VhKw6)

105 I like how the Bible traces Jesus back all the way to Adam. And correct me if I'm wrong Mormon morons, that part of the Bible is why Mormons keep track of their lineage?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 09:54 AM (/BXzQ)

106 Willowed:
What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove? That she is whiter than a polar bear on an ice berg in an arctic blizzard.

Posted by: An Observation at October 16, 2018 09:54 AM (Ew9wx)

107 I read his Nick Adams stories. "Big Two-Hearted River" is one. That was sufficient, but that also exhausted his stock of writings about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 09:51 AM (pNxlR)



For shame. Your nic echoes two Hemingway stories.

Krebs is a boxer who has to throw a fight in Fifty Grand. And Pursuit Race is about the kind of race where it's two guys on opposite sides of the track who try to catch up to each other.

I can't stick around to chastise you, unfortunately.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2018 09:54 AM (fuK7c)

108 The only way I know my ancestry is from oral history (I knew all my great-grandparents into my double-digits) and family letters, documents etc. But 3 out of 4 of my grandparents all had the same name and all came from Scandinavia. With the name of Johnson? Good luck.

Posted by: grammie winger

Wife and I did the Ancestry.com thing. Got me back to mid 17 hundreds in Germany (Dad and Moms side) and Norway (Moms side) found lots of census from back then, and they would list the job they had. I found out that I came from a glorious lineage of....
Servants and farmers.
No wonder they came here in the early 1800's
Also, from my DNA test, I found out I'm less then 1 percent Native American, and less then 1 percent East African. why? Because of the people that came out of Africa, turned right. Fornicated their way to the land bridge (probably) to America.

Posted by: Bruce at October 16, 2018 09:55 AM (8ikIW)

109 IDK if anyone brought this up before but Stormy Daniels raised over $500K in her GoFundMe for legal fees. Does PDT get that money? If so, every leftist who donated is paying Trump.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 09:55 AM (O7MnT)

110 Without even looking, I knew that had to be Rembrandt. Unmistakable style.

Posted by: josephistan at October 16, 2018 09:55 AM (7HtZB)

111 I don't understand how you can do that. Did they keep birth/death/marriage records that far back?

Posted by: grammie winger


In some societies, the records were kept in the local church. They were in Poland. (My mom's dad)

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 09:55 AM (0mP7b)

112 "My family name is attached to a town in Switzerland, so there is some record of what that part of the family was doing for a long time."

Wouldn't be Sumiswald, would it?

My fathers' side comes from strong Anabaptist stock from around there.

Roughly to the 1500's.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2018 09:55 AM (cqNba)

113 86 Quick question on Horde lingo, if I may. What is the etymology of "prexy?"
-----
I think it's just old throwback slang. Years ago I was skimming thru my college's old student newspapers circa 30s and 40s and the abbreviated term for the student body president was "prexy". Don't really know why it's abbreviated like that though.

Posted by: sinalco at October 16, 2018 09:55 AM (yODqO)

114 >>My family name is attached to a town in Switzerland,
so there is some record of what that part of the family was doing for a
long time.

So is my mother's family. Helps narrow things down.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 09:56 AM (/tuJf)

115
The only way I know my ancestry is from oral history (I knew all my great-grandparents into my double-digits) and family letters, documents etc. But 3 out of 4 of my grandparents all had the same name and all came from Scandinavia. With the name of Johnson? Good luck.


Church records -- baptisms, marriages and deaths -- will take you back a good bit in most lands that haven't been overrun and burned on a regular basis.

As for your "Johnsons", the filthy Scandis (of which I am one) were pretty good about tagging family members in church records. Those for Norway are on line at digitalarkivet.no. It helps immensely to know from what area your ancestors came.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 09:57 AM (pNxlR)

116 That's a remarkable portrait.

I'd love to have that much talent. At anything.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at October 16, 2018 09:57 AM (9KUj4)

117 Willowed:
What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove? That she is whiter than a polar bear on an ice berg in an arctic blizzard.
Posted by: An Observation


Easting a mayo sandwich on white bread with the crust removed.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 09:57 AM (0mP7b)

118 I don't understand how you can do that. Did they keep birth/death/marriage records that far back?

The family came to New England from 1634, so they had those records. And they came from England so there were all sorts of church records in the area (also, many generations were reverends, so you KNOW they got in the church records!)

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2018 09:57 AM (nIvDu)

119 I think it's just old throwback slang. Years ago I was skimming thru my college's old student newspapers circa 30s and 40s and the abbreviated term for the student body president was "prexy". Don't really know why it's abbreviated like that though.
Posted by: sinalco at October 16, 2018 09:55 AM (yODqO)
+++++++++
So it could just be regionalism. Interesting. Do you mind if I ask where (approximately) that was?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 09:57 AM (I2dne)

120 I'd go to war with that feather on. That way, my friends would be able to know it's me.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 09:57 AM (XqLGu)

121 U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday threatened to withdraw funding and aid from Honduras if it does not stop a caravan of people that is heading to the United States.

The United States has strongly informed the President of Honduras that if the large Caravan of people heading to the U.S. is not stopped and brought back to Honduras, no more money or aid will be given to Honduras, effective immediately! Trump said on Twitter.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 09:58 AM (9MKXa)

122 Hard to conceive of a place with good record keeping for so long. It reminds of me of something an English colleague once told me:
"In Britain, 200 miles is a long way. In America, 200 years is a long time."

Having a birth or marriage record from 460 years ago is mind-boggling.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 09:53 AM (I2dne)

My first overseas trip was to London. We passed a pub that was 500 years old. I could not wrap my head around such a thing. My city is closing in on its bicentennial, but to have a business operating for more than double that is...

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:58 AM (OyyDO)

123 Should have been the Technic Civilization seven-book series was what I was thinking about.

Posted by: Old Dan, the Muffin Man at October 16, 2018 09:58 AM (oYD2h)

124 Wakes up.
Scratches.
Looks around.
Spies painting. This clown will be the laughing stock of his Battalion. Can't drive a tank in that.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 09:59 AM (0tfLf)

125 But 3 out of 4 of my grandparents all had the same name and all came from Scandinavia. With the name of Johnson? Good luck.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 09:48 AM (lwiT4)

We might be related. Swedish Johnsons in my family tree too.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 09:59 AM (J+mig)

126 I was really hoping I misread that Canadian item on the sidebar this morning. Nope.

And I'll say it again - a doc that kills my kid under the euphemism of "euthanasia" is a doc that I will be "euthanizing."

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 16, 2018 09:59 AM (tVWQB)

127 Lefties are trying to minimize the importance of Lie-awatha's claims; saying Trump bullied her because of a campaign story about her family. Always remind them that she used her 'heritage' to get a job at Harvard, and claimed that her parents were oppressed over their race.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at October 16, 2018 09:59 AM (Lw65j)

128 As for your "Johnsons", the filthy Scandis (of which
I am one) were pretty good about tagging family members in church
records. Those for Norway are on line at digitalarkivet.no. It helps
immensely to know from what area your ancestors came.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 09:57 AM (pNxlR)



Huh. I may look into that. Thanks!

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:00 AM (lwiT4)

129 >>Swedish Johnsons in my family tree too.

Well get them out of there. Damn perverts.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:00 AM (/tuJf)

130 So it could just be regionalism. Interesting. Do you mind if I ask where (approximately) that was?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 09:57 AM (I2dne)

Texas.

Posted by: sinalco at October 16, 2018 10:00 AM (yODqO)

131 Quick question on Horde lingo, if I may. What is the etymology of "prexy?" From context, it clearly means "President" but the abbreviation is usually something like "prezzy." Where did we end up with "prexy?" I can only think of two things:
1) It is a typo that stuck
2) It is a riff on things like "Latinx" or "Womxn" and is making fun of the SJW language-destroyers.

I have no idea if either of these are right, though. Can anyone enlighten me?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 09:49 AM (I2dne)


According to the "Etymology Online" site, "prexy" derives from "prex," recorded around 1828 as college slang for "president." The word "prex" is a Latin verb meaning "to request."

"Prez" as slang for "president" dates from 1892.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2018 10:00 AM (kqsXK)

132 What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove? That she is whiter than a polar bear on an ice berg in an arctic blizzard.


Posted by: An Observation at October 16, 2018 09:54 AM

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She is whiter than rice on a paper plate in the middle of a snowstorm looking through a glass of milk.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2018 10:00 AM (JUOKG)

133
For shame. Your nic echoes two Hemingway stories.


Pure happenstance, as I chose those names from scientists whose works involved cycles. I was not aware of the Hemingway connection.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (pNxlR)

134 My first overseas trip was to London. We passed a pub that was 500 years old. I could not wrap my head around such a thing. My city is closing in on its bicentennial, but to have a business operating for more than double that is...
Posted by: Kris


Was watching a cooking show on Netflix. Noticed on a bottle of Soy Sauce the name of the company and it said, "Since 1647"

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (0mP7b)

135 122 My first overseas trip was to London. We passed a pub that was 500 years old. I could not wrap my head around such a thing. My city is closing in on its bicentennial, but to have a business operating for more than double that is...
Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:58 AM (OyyDO)

===========

When I lived in Rome, I went to church at the small church down the road every week.

It had been standing there (in one form or another) for 2000 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (EvBgT)

136 My family name suggests that 18 centuries ago my ancestor either was part of the Imperial family or owned by them.

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (v9J1p)

137 We might be related. Swedish Johnsons in my family tree too.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 09:59 AM (J+mig)



They're everywhere, like squirrels.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (lwiT4)

138 We might be related. Swedish Johnsons in my family tree too.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 09:59 AM (J+mig)

Not one of those trees w/no branches, is it?

Posted by: BignJames at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (0+nbW)

139 We might be related. Swedish Johnsons in my family tree too.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 09:59 AM (J+mig)
+++++++
Kinky.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (I2dne)

140 "My first overseas trip was to London. We passed a pub that was 500 years old. I could not wrap my head around such a thing."

when we were stationed in Gaeta Italy, one of the restaurants in the old town was built out from part of the old Roman Garrison there.

Not uncommon to find 1500 year old stone roads in town.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (cqNba)

141 Late to the thread, but is this a portrait of Vietnam vet Senator Blumenthal?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (Z216Q)

142 My first overseas trip was to London. We passed a pub that was 500 years old. I could not wrap my head around such a thing. My city is closing in on its bicentennial, but to have a business operating for more than double that is...

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:58 AM (OyyDO)


Yurp is full of OLD stuff.

You go to the Leaning Tower of Pisa, and they STARTED building it in the 1300s. Took them about 300 years to finish, though. Union labor I reckon.

But there is a cathedral next to the tower. Built in the 1000s.

Bet they had problems with THEIR millennials too.

Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (VhKw6)

143 Hard to conceive of a place with good record keeping for so long. It reminds of me of something an English colleague once told me: "In Britain, 200 miles is a long way. In America, 200 years is a long time."

Holland was one of the earliest mercantile economies, and so they were among the first record-keepers. Not many people realize it, but there was a time when Holland and England were near-peers in terms of economic power. If William of Orange hadn't been more into teh ghey buttsecks and had made an heir with Mary that united the British and Dutch monarchies, they would have had a global hegemony. Of course, Mary *was* his first cousin so that heir probably would have been of "Charles III" quality.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (O7MnT)

144 What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove?

There is no margin of error in DNA testing.

Posted by: davidt at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (9qyA/)

145 'U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday threatened to
withdraw funding and aid from Honduras if it does not stop a caravan of
people that is heading to the United States.



Posted by: Nevergiveup"

The horde has already passed into Guatemala and on its way to Mexico. I doubt Honduras can do anything at this point. It will be up to Guatemala and Mexico.

Posted by: Ripley at October 16, 2018 10:02 AM (MxEKc)

146 Professor offers extra credit for attending a Democrat campaign event

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/310483/

Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2018 10:02 AM (mCMQ5)

147 Anecdata - Donnelly (Sen - D - IN) is running an ad, constantly, touting his support of Trump policies.

More than one Gelatinous Cretin has asked me if Donnelly is GOP.

Make of that what you will.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 16, 2018 10:02 AM (fyr/6)

148 According to the "Etymology Online" site, "prexy" derives from "prex," recorded around 1828 as college slang for "president." The word "prex" is a Latin verb meaning "to request."

"Prez" as slang for "president" dates from 1892.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2018 10:00 AM (kqsXK)
++++++++
Well thanks, guys! It never occurred to me that it could *real* lingo. My penchant for late-19th-Century English is coming back to haunt me

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 10:02 AM (I2dne)

149 Fuck Honduras.

Even their tobacco sucks. Not as bad as Indonesian, but it's in the running.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 16, 2018 10:03 AM (tVWQB)

150 The quality of this painting is really good. It's a real feather in the cap for this artist.

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 09:32 AM (OyyDO)


So, you're calling it: he might have a Big Future In Art?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 16, 2018 10:03 AM (Z216Q)

151 What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove?

That she's 1023/1024 full of shit. (plus or minus a 1024th).

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2018 10:03 AM (nIvDu)

152 " What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove? "

That Rachel Dolezal was right to call her a fake.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2018 10:04 AM (cqNba)

153 There is a prison in Sinop Turkey Where I was stationed that was originally built back in the time of the Hittites. They are still standing and it is still a prison. Fascinating.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 10:05 AM (0tfLf)

154 "Prez" as slang for "president" dates from 1892.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2018 10:00 AM (kqsXK)

Oh sure, anybody can look things up on the Internet, but it takes real genius to just guess at stuff...

Posted by: sinalco at October 16, 2018 10:05 AM (yODqO)

155 >>My first overseas trip was to London. We passed a pub that was 500 years old. I could not wrap my head around such a thing. My city is closing in on its bicentennial, but to have a business operating for more than double that is...

Right across the street from the Cologne train station that is in the news lately is the Cologne Cathedral. Spectacular gothic church that has one of if not the tallest spires in Europe. It was built starting in the 1200's.

Always amazed at the architecture of European churches and cathedrals from that period. Not a lot of hydraulic cranes to work with back then.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:06 AM (/tuJf)

156 I'm supposed to have a Cherokee great-grandfather, but 23 and Me says I'm 100% Yuropeen. Oh well.

Posted by: sinalco at October 16, 2018 10:06 AM (yODqO)

157 >>She is whiter than rice on a paper plate in the middle of a snowstorm looking through a glass of milk. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2018 10:00 AM (JUOKG)

She's bluer than blue.

She's sadder than sad.

She's the only white this reservation ever had.

Life without Liz is gonna be

Bluer than blue.

Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 10:07 AM (Bdeb0)

158 What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove?

That the media will defend a Democrat at any price to their credibility.

That PDT can goad Democrats into doing really stupid things.


Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 10:08 AM (O7MnT)

159 You want to know what is one of the most modern towns in central southern Italy?

Casino.

Built in the late 1940's

From the ground up.



Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2018 10:08 AM (cqNba)

160

I'd hit it....

Posted by: Shep at October 16, 2018 10:08 AM (cNbAK)

161 >>151 What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove?

That you don't double down on a gut-shot hand. In other words, that she's far too dumb to be President.

Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 10:08 AM (Bdeb0)

162 >>> What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove?

That she's whiter than me (and I'm pretty damned white).

Her family tree, though proves that "her great-great-great grandfather was a member of a militia unit which participated in the round-up of the Cherokees in the prelude to the Trail of Tears".

Legal Insurrection:
https://tinyurl.com/yapr38d5

I'm DYING over here. The winning - does it stop?


Posted by: Manatee of Unpleasantness at October 16, 2018 10:08 AM (MouFt)

163 Always amazed at the architecture of European churches and cathedrals from that period. Not a lot of hydraulic cranes to work with back then.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:06 AM (/tuJf)


Still amazing to think of hauling all the stone up to build the abbey at the top of Mont St. Michel.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 16, 2018 10:09 AM (y7DUB)

164 From the Morning Report article on stupid little girl who wants to rename a campus building from "Clarence Thomas" to "Anita Hill," I went and checked out her Twitter. Here's the bio:
my last tinder date "went to the restroom" and texted me saying "i can't do this. you're too crazy and weird."
So much to unpack in that - the lack of capitalization, indifferent punctuation, chasing off a *Tinder* date through madness.

Physically pretty, but she can't be a 1. Sad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 10:09 AM (I2dne)

165 Speaking of the Indian thing, I myself is part Indian. Red Creek, to be more specific. I have never tested my DNA, but my mother swears by it that I am related to William Weatherford, who led the Red Sticks against Andrew Jackson during the War of 1812.

After the Battle of Horseshoe Bend, he surrendered to Jackson, bringing the Creek War to a close.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 10:09 AM (XqLGu)

166 I'm supposed to have a Cherokee great-grandfather, but 23 and Me says I'm 100% Yuropeen. Oh well.



Posted by: sinalco at October 16, 2018 10:06 AM

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I know I have a Cherokee Great-Great Grandmother based on pictures but I have't done any DNA test. Not sure I want my DNA out in the "wild" as it were.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2018 10:09 AM (JUOKG)

167
As for your "Johnsons", the filthy Scandis (of which
I am one) were pretty good about tagging family members in church records. Those for Norway are on line at digitalarkivet.no. It helps immensely to know from what area your ancestors came.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 09:57 AM (pNxlR)

Huh. I may look into that. Thanks!
Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:00 AM (lwiT4)


Don't get put off by the "too many Johnson branches" aspect of things. I have a Johnson family from Sweden in my maternal ancestry line (great grandmother) and even with that impediment, I got them back to the early 1800s.

The Scandis followed a patronymic naming practice wherein a person's last name was taken from his or her father. This led to names ending either in "-son/-sen" for a male or "-datter" for a female. If this practice was still commonly used, my line of paternal descent would be Conradsen, Haroldson, Carlson, Frederickson.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:09 AM (pNxlR)

168 What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove?

That Cultural Appropriation is just fine when Democratic Socialists do it.

Just ask Beto Shabazz Mohammed Loretta Feng-Wei O'Rourke

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 10:10 AM (O7MnT)

169 Not a lot of hydraulic cranes to work with back then.

And the patience, knowing that your work won't be done for a few generations.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2018 10:10 AM (nIvDu)

170 Painting is Sam Shephard.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 16, 2018 10:10 AM (4ZE6o)

171 I always believed my ancesters were convicts and bond servants. my grandparents (both sets) were the first in oral history to get basic elementary schooling and my parents were the first to get college. ancestry.com swears blind my dna is scotts irish and entered the georgia colonies in the middle 1700s so i suppose i was correct in my guess.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at October 16, 2018 10:11 AM (cL8nw)

172 One of my ancestors came from Ireland and was a designer for the Capital. There's a bar in his name out on DuPont circle. Hobans.
Good beer...and the foods not bad.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 10:11 AM (0tfLf)

173 165 But more importantly, I consider myself to be American. Should be the only thing that should describe me.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 10:11 AM (XqLGu)

174 159. Many, many cities in SMR heartland are much the same.

And here's a creepy French town - left in ruins as a memorial to the war.
Oradour sur Glane
https://tinyurl.com/yadnjo8q

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (fA1SL)

175 I know I have a Cherokee Great-Great Grandmother based on pictures but I have't done any DNA test. Not sure I want my DNA out in the "wild" as it were.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2018 10:09 AM (JUOKG)
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This is wise.

Posted by: sinalco at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (yODqO)

176 153 There is a prison in Sinop Turkey Where I was stationed that was originally built back in the time of the Hittites. They are still standing and it is still a prison. Fascinating.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 10:05 AM (0tfLf)

It's too bad the Middle East is a giant insane asylum right now. I would love to go an explore Mesopotamia and walk among buildings that have been there since the beginning of written history.

I did my thesis on objects from the 9-10th century BC. The feelings that emerge when holding something that old in your hands really cannot be described.

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (OyyDO)

177 Kamala Harris has quite a bit of Brown in her.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (NWiLs)

178 He has mouse eyes.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (c1VpD)

179 You want to know what is one of the most modern towns in central southern Italy?

Casino.

Built in the late 1940's

From the ground up.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice



Courtesy of the US Army.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (0mP7b)

180 175 I know I have a Cherokee Great-Great Grandmother based on pictures but I have't done any DNA test. Not sure I want my DNA out in the "wild" as it were.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2018 10:09 AM (JUOKG)
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This is wise.
Posted by: sinalco at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (yODqO)

Might not help, though. If anyone in your family, even first cousins have taken those tests, it can still point the finger at you.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 10:13 AM (J+mig)

181 Costume? Is this a Halloween theme?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at October 16, 2018 10:14 AM (+KUWZ)

182 We lucked out tracing my dad's side. Family members in Canada put together a listing of descent going back to the parents of the first couple to settle Quebec three hundred years earlier. So we can take it back to Normandy, France in the late 1500s. It took several years checking all church and municipal records, even asking for lists in family bibles. Considering how common the name is, this must have been a huge undertaking. I was fortunate to get a copy.

Cool stuff and I've used the information as a springboard to learn more of the history of the area.

Posted by: JTB at October 16, 2018 10:14 AM (V+03K)

183 It's too bad the Middle East is a giant insane
asylum right now. I would love to go an explore Mesopotamia and walk
among buildings that have been there since the beginning of written
history.





Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (OyyDO)


Um. It's always been an insane asylum. But I get our drift.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 16, 2018 10:14 AM (q1VoB)

184 Legal Insurrection:
https://tinyurl.com/yapr38d5


Too funny. So there ARE a lot of Indians in her family tree. Hung by their necks until they were dead.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2018 10:14 AM (NAs56)

185 Always amazed at the architecture of European churches and cathedrals from that period. Not a lot of hydraulic cranes to work with back then.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:06 AM (/tuJf)

If you haven't already, I recommend watching NOVA's "Building the Great Cathedrals".

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 10:14 AM (OyyDO)

186 >>And the patience, knowing that your work won't be done for a few generations.

Exactly. Never happen today.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:14 AM (/tuJf)

187 That's some feather in his hat, is he counting coup against Tin Lizzy?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:15 AM (iwiQ1)

188 Former BF claimed Cherokee heritage. His features did support that lineage. Why is it always Cherokee though? Where we live it should be Lenape.

Posted by: kallisto at October 16, 2018 10:15 AM (v9J1p)

189 186. I see you've never heard of the Big Dig....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:15 AM (fA1SL)

190 186
>>And the patience, knowing that your work won't be done for a few generations.



Exactly. Never happen today.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:14 AM (/tuJf)


Boston's 'The Big Dig'.

Posted by: davidt at October 16, 2018 10:15 AM (9qyA/)

191 about a year ago some guy in Arizona called and was related, knew all the names on the lists I had, we exchanged a few pictures.


It's all interesting, but once a person goes back 150 years, that one drop of "regal" blood is balanced out by many drops of commoners blood ... which is probably a good thang. Those royal trees need more branches.


Used to be that just surviving was not so easy, so the genetics were naturally improved, and I'd guess coming to America was itself a "thinning of the herd" selective process for the more "competent and independent. But mass migration of welfare seekers has destroyed that ... which seems rather intentional. "They aren't sending their best".

Posted by: illiniwek at October 16, 2018 10:15 AM (Cus5s)

192 I chose those names from scientists whose works involved cycles. I was not aware of the Hemingway connection.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (pNxlR)

What a coincidence...so does mine!

Posted by: Menstrual at October 16, 2018 10:16 AM (wYseH)

193 I see you've never heard of the Big Dig....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatin
++++++++++
Boston road works or Dignity Canal?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 10:16 AM (I2dne)

194 arg

Posted by: davidt at October 16, 2018 10:16 AM (9qyA/)

195 >>And the patience, knowing that your work won't be done for a few generations.

Exactly. Never happen today.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:14 AM (/tuJf)


Never worked on a government project, I guess.

Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2018 10:16 AM (VhKw6)

196
I did my thesis on objects from the 9-10th century BC. The feelings that emerge when holding something that old in your hands really cannot be described.
Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (OyyDO)

We lived in Jordan when our kids were elementary age, and took them to all of the digs in and around Amman. At Jerash, they found some cave and went in before we could tell them "STOP!!!!"" but the lone guard just shrugged it off, and told them to have fun. They spent an hour gather little chunks of marble and bring them to the guard. It was pieces of mosaic that no one had found before. He let them each keep one as their reward.


I think thinks have tightened up since then, but it was kind of neat that they were able to actually immerse themselves in history-in this case from the first century B.C.

Posted by: moki at October 16, 2018 10:16 AM (mFoNl)

197 I sold a whole bunch of Rembrandt etchings when I was in the art biz. They were culled from the Getty Museum in LA. It was a cool and very, very interesting show. Ooh and, that guy looks like he needs to be a Toby Jug.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:16 AM (lGrs1)

198 193. Both. They'll be completed at about the same time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:16 AM (fA1SL)

199 Warren's DNA test and the Cherokee Nation response did nothing to her hard left base. They are with her no matter what. It's like what I always thought about Clinton. He could rape a 9 year old in the rose garden and his base would stick with him.

But it gives fuel to the right to mock her relentlessly, and her responses will make her look even more shrill.

The independent center will laugh at her.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (4ZE6o)

200 Palp, I'm 1/4 Croat from great grandparents that hit Ellis Island in 1921 from the Island of Krk. Where does that place me on the SMR spectrum?

Fun note:
Great grandpa's first wife died shortly after arrival so he sent for one of her sisters. That would be my great grandmother. They were practical that way.


Posted by: Manatee of Unpleasantness at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (MouFt)

201
144 What did Liz Warren's DNA test prove?

There is no margin of error in DNA testing.
Posted by: davidt at October 16, 2018 10:01 AM (9qyA/)


There is no "Native American" gene. Neither is there a "Scots" gene, a "Czech" gene, a "Thai" gene, nor a "Swazi" gene.

Ethnicity is assigned by comparing a sample's genetic markers against larger populations' gene markers from samples having self-identified ethnicities.

Mucho bunkum, IOW.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (pNxlR)

202 The feelings that emerge when holding something that old in your hands really cannot be described.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Monica Lewinski at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (NWiLs)

203 That's so cool O'Keefe stung Air Claire. Man I want her to go down like Maggie under the bleachers.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (lGrs1)

204 "Courtesy of the US Army."

I think that the Germans contributed greatly to the need for a new town there.


Now, Monte Casino?

Army Air Corps helped to create a need for a newer one.


When we were transferring to Gaeta we had a difficult time getting Mrs VIA's then late 80's Great Aunt to picture where Gaeta was in her mind.

When I said that it wasn't too far from Monte Casino, the suddenly smiled and said 'I know where that is. Richard helped bomb the shit out of that place during the war'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (cqNba)

205 I would love to go an explore Mesopotamia and walk

among buildings that have been there since the beginning of written

history.


Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (OyyDO)

Israel is a fine substitute, and the Israelis are insane for archeology.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (wYseH)

206 What is Boss Paul's pyramid doing in Boss Dean's desert? You better get it out, son.

Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (Bdeb0)

207
Class action lawsuit on behalf of those denied admittance to the school that Warren lied to get put at the front of list?

Bankrupt her.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (URwyc)

208 Kris @176

Turkey is a fascinating place. I was there in the mid-80s and loved it. Great people, great food. History was everywhere. The museum there was surprisingly small but...DAMN!!! It was fantastic!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (0tfLf)

209 I'm pretty sure you'd need more than just neck armor to pull that feather out of the ostrich.

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (FhXTo)

210 200. Croats from that time are solid gold SMR.
* pours early slivo *
Pick up your accordion and AK from the quartermaster AFTER you get fitted for track suit.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (fA1SL)

211
I did my thesis on objects from the 9-10th century BC. The feelings that emerge when holding something that old in your hands really cannot be described.
Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 10:12 AM (OyyDO)


We could always obtain an in-person report from Mrs. Vic.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:19 AM (pNxlR)

212 I chose those names from scientists whose works involved cycles. I was not aware of the Hemingway connection.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)


Ya know, not all cycling stars have to be male...

Posted by: "Rachel" McKinnon at October 16, 2018 10:19 AM (NpvYf)

213 I think thinks have tightened up since then, but it was kind of neat that they were able to actually immerse themselves in history-in this case from the first century B.C.
========================
If ISIS hasn't dynamited the entire site. It's insane what those animals did to the antiquities in the ME.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:20 AM (lGrs1)

214 >>205 I would love to go an explore Mesopotamia and walk among buildings that have been there since the beginning of written history.

Have done. Dair Mar Elia, 7th century Chaldean Christian monastery south of Mosul. The ancient ruins of Ninevah are(?) still extant in the city, though Zod could not go to see them--too many bad guys.

Dair Mar is destroyed now, courtesy ISIS.

Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 10:20 AM (Bdeb0)

215 Mucho bunkum, IOW.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (pNxlR)

That's what I thought, but I just had drinks with an old friend who is in the forefront of building genetic databases for medicine, and he said that if the database is big enough the accuracy is rather impressive.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2018 10:20 AM (wYseH)

216 Fun note:
Great grandpa's first wife died shortly
after arrival so he sent for one of her sisters. That would be my great
grandmother. They were practical that way.






Posted by: Manatee of Unpleasantness at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM

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One of Great-great Grandfathers first wife was killed by Indians. After her death he married an Indian. Now that's practicality.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2018 10:20 AM (JUOKG)

217 How old would that guy be? 35?

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 10:21 AM (6wv+V)

218 Nice feather. I assume it's Ostrich.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 16, 2018 10:21 AM (o4fG0)

219 Warren's DNA test include South American/ Central American markers to encompass description of 'Native American'. That's intentional misinformation or in other words , another lie.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 10:21 AM (/BXzQ)

220 Fun note:
Great grandpa's first wife died shortly after arrival so he sent for one of her sisters. That would be my great grandmother. They were practical that way.


Did he tell her, "Your sister was better"?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2018 10:21 AM (kqsXK)

221 >>Palp, I'm 1/4 Croat from great grandparents that hit Ellis Island in 1921 from the Island of Krk. Where does that place me on the SMR spectrum?

My ex's family on her mother's side are Croats from an island off Split. They got out just before the troubles with a few suitcases.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:22 AM (/tuJf)

222 208 Kris @176

Turkey is a fascinating place. I was there in the mid-80s and loved it. Great people, great food. History was everywhere. The museum there was surprisingly small but...DAMN!!! It was fantastic!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (0tfLf)

Yeah, Turkey is on my list, specifically Istanbul. I recently discovered an interest in Byzantium. What a fascinating history! I want to walk through the Hagia Sofia and along Justinian's Walls.

Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 10:23 AM (OyyDO)

223 221. Talk about nick of time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:23 AM (fA1SL)

224 Croats from that time are solid gold SMR.
* pours early slivo *
Pick up your accordion and AK from the quartermaster AFTER you get fitted for track suit.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (fA1SL)
---------

Sweet. I'll pick up a matching pair of Adibas on the way.

Posted by: Manatee of Punat, Krk at October 16, 2018 10:23 AM (MouFt)

225 Warren's DNA test include South American/ Central American markers to encompass description of 'Native American'

Doing the jobs at Harvard that Americans won't do.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2018 10:23 AM (NpvYf)

226 Y'know, this past weekend, I was painting a church black while listening to "Bela Lugosi's Dead." Have you ever been more Goth than that?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 10:23 AM (O7MnT)

227 Did he tell her, "Your sister was better"?
===========================
...and, could he hang on for 8 seconds after he told her?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:23 AM (lGrs1)

228
Did he tell her, "Your sister was better"?

...at making sandwiches

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 10:24 AM (6wv+V)

229 if the database is big enough the accuracy is rather impressive.

The "if" statement is in play here pretty substantially.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 16, 2018 10:24 AM (Z216Q)

230 Warren's DNA test include South American/ Central American markers to encompass description of 'Native American'

So, if she's 1/1024th Hispanic, she's still more Hispanic than Beto O'Rourke.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 10:24 AM (O7MnT)

231 Something to sink one's teeth into - Martin Luther, the Reformation, the Papal Ass, the Monk Calf, and the Woman who Gave Birth to a Dormouse
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9ukc9oj

Here is an engraving of the Papal Ass aka the Monster of Rome.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ya4rsutr

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:24 AM (iwiQ1)

232
172 One of my ancestors came from Ireland and was a designer for the Capital. There's a bar in his name out on DuPont circle. Hobans.
Good beer...and the foods not bad.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 10:11 AM (0tfLf)


"Capital" the District or "Capitol" the Building?

Cool, in either case.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:24 AM (pNxlR)

233 Dammit. This is just getting fun and I'm off to work.
Dobro jutro.

Posted by: Manatee of Punat, Krk at October 16, 2018 10:24 AM (MouFt)

234
And called it Macaroni

Posted by: Amy Schumer at October 16, 2018 10:25 AM (veoSD)

235 I don't know about the rest of y'all but Ima gonna call my buxom tennis instructor and hang out at the overnight Home Depot.

Posted by: The One Who Ends Comment Threads at October 16, 2018 10:25 AM (MceDl)

236 At lest he can still fit in his uniform. Which is more than I can say.

Posted by: Archer at October 16, 2018 10:25 AM (gmo/4)

237 227 Did he tell her, "Your sister was better"?
===========================
...and, could he hang on for 8 seconds after he told her?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:23 AM (lGrs1)


Finally - a women's sport I could tolerate watching.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 16, 2018 10:25 AM (fyr/6)

238 203
That's so cool O'Keefe stung Air Claire. Man I want her to go down like Maggie under the bleachers. Stormy Daniels at each secondary highway titty bar she works at to pay for PDT's legal bills.


Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (lGrs1)

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 16, 2018 10:25 AM (jxbfJ)

239 Yeah, Turkey is on my list, specifically Istanbul.

Where...?

Oh. Constantinople,

got it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 16, 2018 10:26 AM (tVWQB)

240

EM CHOCTAW FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at October 16, 2018 10:26 AM (cNbAK)

241 Warren did not identify as a Native American until she was trying to get into the Ivy League system in 1986. Prior to that she always just listed white on her employment forms. She only withdrew her minority designation after she got tenure at Harvard.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 10:26 AM (/BXzQ)

242 Symbolic of Dutch independence from Spanish rule.

Posted by: dd at October 16, 2018 10:27 AM (Eg7tS)

243 Krebs,
Small screen, big thumb.
The building.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 10:27 AM (0tfLf)

244 222 208 Kris @176

Turkey is a fascinating place. I was there in the mid-80s and loved it. Great people, great food. History was everywhere. The museum there was surprisingly small but...DAMN!!! It was fantastic!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 10:18 AM (0tfLf)

Yeah, Turkey is on my list, specifically Istanbul. I recently discovered an interest in Byzantium. What a fascinating history! I want to walk through the Hagia Sofia and along Justinian's Walls.
Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018 10:23 AM (OyyDO)

I'd like to as well, but not until MICA* happens

*Make Istanbul Constantinople Again

Posted by: josephistan at October 16, 2018 10:27 AM (7HtZB)

245 For the Empress, an old depiction of Arawak people riding a manatee

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7rb2ltq

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:27 AM (iwiQ1)

246 >>>21 I assume that this military never actually won a battle.
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2018 09:33 AM (Rr52g)

Mention that to the Spanish/Imperial Tercios kicked out of the Netherlands during the Eighty-Years War, you might get some raised eyebrows on that point....

Posted by: DMO at October 16, 2018 10:28 AM (LjPKx)

247 BONZER! GET ME MY UN-I-FORM!

Posted by: Archer at October 16, 2018 10:28 AM (gmo/4)

248

Is he an indian chief?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 16, 2018 10:29 AM (ZflfK)

249 Yeah, Turkey is on my list, specifically Istanbul. I recently discovered an interest in Byzantium. What a fascinating history! I want to walk through the Hagia Sofia and along Justinian's Walls.
Posted by: Kris at October 16, 2018

*****

Got to tour the Hagia Sofia. Was absolutely dumbstruck by the workmanship. Stunning!!! Even the smallest details.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2018 10:29 AM (0tfLf)

250 I love Rembrandt. His use of light and the way he could capture an expression Is just wonderful. This one is so good. The man looks worried and uncertain. The light is perfect and the detail on that feather Is amazing. Love this!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 16, 2018 10:29 AM (myjNJ)

251 Trump should settle his debt with Warren in the traditional way:

A mirror, a flintlock and a powderhorn, and a bottle of fire-water.

Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 10:29 AM (Bdeb0)

252 He doesnt look that old...

Posted by: Flyover at October 16, 2018 10:29 AM (B5K06)

253 Say what you want about me, but I'll be damned if I let someone sit here and badmouth the Cherokee nation!

Posted by: Liz "Otter" Warren at October 16, 2018 10:29 AM (FPdFq)

254 So, been really busy lately... and still laughing like mad over Squaw Shiiting Bull.

Gotta admit, this has become the funniest thing since... well, a while.

*goes off for coffeve*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:29 AM (6qErC)

255 Father's people were Sicilian peasants from Catania. Mother's people were Irish, from County Mayo and emigrated during the Famine, so I am told. Beyond that I know really nothing about my family and don't particularly care.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2018 10:30 AM (kqsXK)

256 Warren's DNA test include South American/ Central
American markers to encompass description of 'Native American'. That's
intentional misinformation or in other words , another lie.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 10:21 AM (/BXzQ)



I saw a picture on Twitter yesterday of Ms. Warren wearing a sombrero, eating a taco. She should embrace her South American heritage. She'd get more votes.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:30 AM (lwiT4)

257 240

EM CHOCTAW FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at October 16, 2018 10:26 AM (cNbAK)

makes me laugh every GD time! thx

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 16, 2018 10:30 AM (JFO2v)

258 h sure, anybody can look things up on the Internet, but it takes real genius to just guess at stuff...

Right? And I had a good guess.

When I was starting out we used Telex to talk to Europe. Characters were expenve so we'd writ TX for transmission and RX for received.

I thought maybe a telex or telegraph abbreviation for president might be PRX.

Posted by: Bander's Phone at October 16, 2018 10:30 AM (hGIR2)

259 Regardless the only reason Picohontas says she is "Cherokee" is because they are mistakenly rumored to have a one-drop rule, as if having one drop of unrecognizable maybe blood is enough to enjoy full benefits of sovereignty. More likely any blood she does have is Narragansett or something

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 10:30 AM (6wv+V)

260 Say what you want about me, but I'll be damned if I let someone sit here and badmouth the Cherokee nation!
Posted by: Liz "Otter" Warren at October 16, 2018 10:29 AM (FPdFq)
+++++++++
Didn't you badmouth them by claiming membership you didn't earn? They've had a hard enough run without an amoral carpetbagger like you showing up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 10:31 AM (I2dne)

261 203 That's so cool O'Keefe stung Air Claire. Man I want her to go down like Maggie under the bleachers.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (lGrs1)

Link?

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2018 10:31 AM (cF8AT)

262
Warren - 1/2020

Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:31 AM (8XRCm)

263 "Took away our ways of life,
The tomahawk and the Bowie knife"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ixwIaN7qw

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:31 AM (6qErC)

264 In reality, the hoax has exposed the fact that it is the proponents of identity politics who are advancing views parallel to the far right. While they are enraged with those who voice concern about the elimination of due process and the presumption of innocence for the targets of the #MeToo campaign, they are unbothered by the fact that the writings of Adolf Hitler are published and praised in feminist academic circles.

Posted by: undocumented illegal so-called Internet Influencer at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (e8kgV)

265
Might not help, though. If anyone in your family, even first cousins have taken those tests, it can still point the finger at you.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 10:13 AM (J+mig)


^^^ THIS

And you know, you just know, that despite the testing companies' most sincere protestations that they'd never, ever, never, turn over DNA test results or samples to law enforcement, at some point in the not-too-distant future, like all good statists-in-waiting, they will.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (pNxlR)

266 >>More likely any blood she does have is Narragansett or something

Negative. Warren's family is from Oklahoma not the New England area.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (/tuJf)

267 -
--

For the Empress, an old depiction of Arawak people riding a manatee

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7rb2ltq


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:27 AM

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I think that's a womanatee. It's got hooters.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (pMGkg)

268 That's so cool O'Keefe stung Air Claire. Man I want her to go down like Maggie under the bleachers.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (lGrs1)

----

Saw that video this morning. Staffers bragging about how they have to lie to the rubes to get her elected.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (8XRCm)

269 Link?

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2018 10:31 AM (cF8AT)



I think J.J. has one on the Morning Report.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (lwiT4)

270 Warren's DNA test include South American/ Central American markers

I'm tired today, and I initially read "markers" as "monkeys." I was so happy for a few seconds.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 16, 2018 10:33 AM (iys0/)

271 The feelings that emerge when holding something that old in your hands really cannot be described.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Monica Lewinski at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (NWiLs)

When I was still alive, I used gloves so my Ruthie wouldn't crumble.

Posted by: Martin Ginsberg at October 16, 2018 10:33 AM (Lw65j)

272 Negative. Warren's family is from Oklahoma not the New England area.

++++

In the 1700s?

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 10:33 AM (6wv+V)

273 268 That's so cool O'Keefe stung Air Claire. Man I want her to go down like Maggie under the bleachers.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (lGrs1)

----

Saw that video this morning. Staffers bragging about how they have to lie to the rubes to get her elected.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (8XRCm)

==============

October's not over yet, either.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 16, 2018 10:33 AM (EvBgT)

274 Warren's family is from Oklahoma not the New England area.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (/tuJf)



Yet she talked about her lineage from the Delaware tribe on at least one occasion.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:34 AM (lwiT4)

275
Yeah, Turkey is on my list, specifically Istanbul.

Where...?

Oh. Constantinople,

got it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 16, 2018 10:26 AM (tVWQB)







'da fuq????

Posted by: Byzantium at October 16, 2018 10:34 AM (veoSD)

276 *reads sidebar link about Canadian heal system euthanizing children sans parental knowledge*

The Germans had the same system in the 1930s, it was called T-4.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:34 AM (iwiQ1)

277
251 Trump should settle his debt with Warren in the traditional way:

A mirror, a flintlock and a powderhorn, and a bottle of fire-water.
Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 10:29 AM (Bdeb0)


Don't forget the smallpox-infected blanket!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:34 AM (pNxlR)

278 -
--
Saw that video this morning. Staffers bragging about how they have to lie to the rubes to get her elected.


Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM

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All of the squishes and rinos and GOPe are exactly like that.


Posted by: irright at October 16, 2018 10:34 AM (pMGkg)

279 268 That's so cool O'Keefe stung Air Claire. Man I want her to go down like Maggie under the bleachers.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2018 10:17 AM (lGrs1)

----

Saw that video this morning. Staffers bragging about how they have to lie to the rubes to get her elected.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (8XRCm)

==============

October's not over yet, either.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 16, 2018 10:33 AM (EvBgT)

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O Keefe says he has other vids on other candidates he's going to release up coming.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:35 AM (8XRCm)

280 Yet she talked about her lineage from the Delaware tribe on at least one occasion."

And yet her DNA expert says there was probably only one ancestor - Delaware or Cherokee? CHOOSE! CHOOSE THE FORM OF THE DESTRUCTOR!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2018 10:35 AM (Kpl3J)

281 274 Warren's family is from Oklahoma not the New England area.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (/tuJf)



Yet she talked about her lineage from the Delaware tribe on at least one occasion.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:34 AM (lwiT4)

===========

People don't move around in America.

My family planted themselves in Charleston 350 years ago and hasn't moved since.

How they managed to own houses in Tennessee, Alabama, Virginia, and Maine, I'm not quite sure, though.

Also, there's some guy who says he landed in Massachusetts in the 1650s with my family name, but is obviously not right.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 16, 2018 10:35 AM (EvBgT)

282 If if is Cherokee from 6 gens ago that places it circa Trail of Tears so the other side of that union was a soldier maybe not something to brag about

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 10:35 AM (6wv+V)

283 Negative. Warren's family is from Oklahoma not the New England area."

Supposedly Granddad or so was the one from England, moved to New England post Civil War, married a Swiss woman, moved to Missouri.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (6qErC)

284
Yet she talked about her lineage from the Delaware tribe on at least one occasion.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:34 AM (lwiT4)


So she, like Joey ChooChoo, claims descent from the Paste Eaters Band of Lenni Lenape?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (pNxlR)

285 I trace my heritage to the Aztecs who built the Panama Canal in the 1700's.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (/BXzQ)

286 >>In the 1700s?

She's never mentioned a family history of living anywhere in the region. She has specifically claimed Cherokee heritage for years because that's where her family is from.

Don't know if there is some tie 200+ years ago but she's made big deal of her southwestern heritage ever since she's been up this way.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (/tuJf)

287 265
Might not help, though. If anyone in your family, even first cousins have taken those tests, it can still point the finger at you.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 10:13 AM (J+mig)

^^^ THIS

And you know, you just know, that despite the testing companies' most sincere protestations that they'd never, ever, never, turn over DNA test results or samples to law enforcement, at some point in the not-too-distant future, like all good statists-in-waiting, they will.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (pNxlR)

Which is why I will never give a DNA sample to any of those people.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (NWiLs)

288 And you know, you just know, that despite the
testing companies' most sincere protestations that they'd never, ever,
never, turn over DNA test results or samples to law enforcement, at some
point in the not-too-distant future, like all good statists-in-waiting,
they will.


Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM

---

I expect a law to be passed at some point in the near future forcing those DNA companies to turn over all of the DNA records they have to the FBI so they can solve old crimes, but it won't work because there is no chain of custody for those samples.

Those samples have about 2,000 different ways they can be contaminated and no Court in the US would allow them to be presented as evidence.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (JUOKG)

289
Is this Khashoggi thing just journalists worrying about how a "journalist" was treated? Lotsa smoke but little fire. Or is embarrassing Trump the end game? As though Arabs need a reason to whack other Arabs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (BWL+E)

290 Choctaw Bingo - great, great song

https://youtu.be/Nggqe-L9ZQ8

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (fA1SL)

291 If if is Cherokee from 6 gens ago that places it circa Trail of Tears so the other side of that union was a soldier maybe not something to brag about
Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 10:35 AM (6wv+V)

hER FAMILY HAS BEEN IMPLICATED IN The Trail of Rears round up and march.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 10:37 AM (9MKXa)

292 People don't move around in America. "

Ok, that's funny right there.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:37 AM (6qErC)

293 Very brown.

Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2018 10:37 AM (NLLmE)

294 Is this Khashoggi thing just journalists worrying about how a "journalist" was treated? Lotsa smoke but little fire. Or is embarrassing Trump the end game? As though Arabs need a reason to whack other Arabs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (BWL+E)

Khashoggi is the muslim brotherhood, and the enemy. Journalist my ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (9MKXa)

295 I've already got Trump's 2020 ad against Warren. (pity he'll probably never have the chance to use it) It needs to have a clip of Warren speechifying about her Indian Ancestry, and then just show Iron Eyes Cody, silently standing next to his canoe with a tear coming from his eye.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (Kpl3J)

296 hER FAMILY HAS BEEN IMPLICATED IN The Trail of Rears round up and march.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 10:37 AM (9MKXa)

One would possess a heart of stone not to find this absolutely hilarious.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (NWiLs)

297 and no Court in the US would allow them to be presented as evidence. "

How 'bout a nice Hawaiian Punch?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (6qErC)

298 That's so cool O'Keefe stung Air Claire. Man I want her to go down like Maggie under the bleachers.

Has her campaign responded? Are they calling the videos "heavily edited" or blaming it on "low-level campaign volunteers whose views do not reflect those of the senator."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (O7MnT)

299 Genealogy databases being used to solve crimes?

One of the three networks a few weeks ago had a story about using such databases to crack a cold murder case. Break ended before I learned if they did solve the case.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (iwiQ1)

300 I'm waiting for demands to change the name Oklahoma since it means Red Man in Choctow.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (/BXzQ)

301 Well, a Cherokee chief as he dances alongHe does an Indian boogie to a white man's song
Singin' hey ho a lina, hey ho a linaA well a hey ho a lina, wup wup a witten a yeah

Picture Liz Wanking Squaw dancing arond the stripper pole to that song


Posted by: Archer at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (gmo/4)

302
And you know, you just know, that despite the testing companies' most sincere protestations that they'd never, ever, never, turn over DNA test results or samples to law enforcement, at some point in the not-too-distant future, like all good statists-in-waiting, they will.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (pNxlR)





Already happened. Nabbed one or two serial killers that way in the last year or so, from DNA profiles added to Ancestry.com.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (veoSD)

303 then just show Iron Eyes Cody, silently standing next to his canoe with a tear coming from his eye.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (Kpl3J)

Isn't Cody Italaian?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (9MKXa)

304

President Trump owes the fake indian nothing. He never made the deal.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 16, 2018 10:39 AM (ZflfK)

305 The Trail of Rears"

But what?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:39 AM (6qErC)

306
Her Injun in her genetic woodpile was Kaw-Liga Warren - his heart was made of knotty pine.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:39 AM (pNxlR)

307 October's not over yet, either.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 16, 2018 10:33 AM (EvBgT)

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O Keefe says he has other vids on other candidates he's going to release up coming.

---------------

The Dems have not been able to win at the ballet box with arguments for a while which is why the concern with the Court - but when they do when at the ballot box it is a combination of appearing centrist on certain issues and making an emotional argument on those issues that have traditionally favored the left.

I think the GOP in general and Trump specifically has learned to use emotional arguments in your favor to further win at the ballot box. For instance, rather than argue that lower taxes help the economy and lead to more tax receipts - just argue that it is theft. Theft appeals to people a lot more.

You see this primarily with trade and how it relates to patriotism / nationalism.

Posted by: SH at October 16, 2018 10:39 AM (sX1BW)

308 -
--
Which is why I will never give a DNA sample to any of those people.


Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM

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I skipped the middleman and gave mine directly to the government at a MEPS center in the 80's.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2018 10:39 AM (pMGkg)

309 You know, I've got a great idea for a Project Veritas type sting.

Send samples to every ancestry / DNA testing company.

From your cat.

Watch as hilarity ensues and some huckster says your fuzzball is half Irish.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 10:40 AM (J+mig)

310 Khasshoggi krap is a cover up of some kind. He's a spy, the media is purposefully not disclosing the whole story

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 10:40 AM (6wv+V)

311 Yet she talked about her lineage from the Delaware tribe on at least one occasion.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:34 AM (lwiT4)


The name is confusing grammie, but I believe the Delaware tribe she claims relation to is from Oklahoma too.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 16, 2018 10:40 AM (Z216Q)

312 288 Show me the man and I'll find the crime. I wouldn't trust the government to do the right thing here.

Posted by: rammajamma at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (AjNMO)

313 So has SA come clean like CNN claimed they would be doing?

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (/BXzQ)

314 I skipped the middleman and gave mine directly to the government at a MEPS center in the 80's.

Posted by: irright at October 16, 2018 10:39 AM (pMGkg)

???
So did I. Maybe that is why my .MIL email is Never. Jewboy.giveup@Navy.Mil?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (9MKXa)

315 Elizabeth Warren won't be the Democrat nominee for President, I expect. It will either be Commie La or Spartacus Booker. ;She might be the VP, or as someone noted earlier Indians are always the sidekick .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (AllCR)

316 265

Might not help, though. If anyone in your family, even first cousins
have taken those tests, it can still point the finger at you.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 10:13 AM (J+mig)
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Fun Fact:
Mark Zuckerberg's wife, Priscilla Chan is the founder of 23 and Me, one of your friendly neighborhood consumer DNA testing outfits.

Okay, seriously, off to work


Posted by: Manatee of Punat, Krk at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (MouFt)

317 312 288 Show me the man and I'll find the crime. I wouldn't trust the government to do the right thing here.
Posted by: rammajamma at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (AjNMO)

Or any other circumstance.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (NWiLs)

318 315 Elizabeth Warren won't be the Democrat nominee for President, I expect. It will either be Commie La or Spartacus Booker. ;She might be the VP, or as someone noted earlier Indians are always the sidekick .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (AllCR)

==========

She wants to be president, though.

She wants it bad.

And just think, she stepped aside for Hillary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 16, 2018 10:42 AM (9ZlHt)

319 NPR this morning trying hard and finally prying a negative quote about Trump out of Cherokee tribal official who complained about Pocahontas DNA test... while avoiding any mention of the results of it! Nicely slimed, NPR.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 16, 2018 10:42 AM (In2xl)

320 Warren's DNA test include South American/ Central American markers

When you're measuring down to the 1/1000th level, I'd guess you're going to pretty much going to come up with
fragments of pretty much everything.

But she's 99 44/100th's % cracker, otherwise.

Which then brings up the question-- what magical voodoo does her two ounces of Diversity cred bring? What 'differing perspective' does she have as a Harvard Department Chair(okee) that gives her the greater value over any other lily-white coastal liberal??


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 10:42 AM (oVJmc)

321 The clintons have six houses?
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at October 15, 2018 09:24 PM (lwiT4)

What is being politely overlooked in the Warren discussion is that fact that on two separate occasions, she lied on a federal form she filled out for Harvard and I understand , the University of Pennsylvania that she was Native American. And Harvard and U of Penn are silent on this episode. They are silent on the fact that they are using race/ethnicity under the guise of "diversity" to advance employees. That is the only reason Warren had created and continued this Native American charade. To advance herself academically when she couldn't do it based on her work and research.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 16, 2018 10:42 AM (Y/5oU)

322 President Trump owes the fake indian nothing. He never made the deal."

Was a 2 parter: take DNA test, then shows she's "indian"

Owes her a hearty chuckle.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:42 AM (6qErC)

323 That's what I thought, but I just had drinks with an old friend who is in the forefront of building genetic databases for medicine, and he said that if the database is big enough the accuracy is rather impressive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2018 10:20 AM (wYseH)
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10:20 AM is a little early for that, don't you think?

Posted by: bluebell at October 16, 2018 10:43 AM (U5tDi)

324 Show me the man and I'll find the crime. I wouldn't trust the government to do the right thing here.
Posted by: rammajamma at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (AjNMO)

Or any other circumstance.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (NWiLs)

But they're expected to deliver you water after a storm.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 16, 2018 10:43 AM (/BXzQ)

325 323. Sefton's a bad influence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:43 AM (fA1SL)

326 247 BONZER! GET ME MY UN-I-FORM!
Posted by: Archer at October 16, 2018 10:28 AM (gmo/4)


"Medal?! $16 million bucks, shot!"

- - Bellamy

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2018 10:43 AM (/9p9e)

327 This is like one of those child's pictures where you find the hidden items. I found Trudeau's eyebrow.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at October 16, 2018 10:43 AM (5jVnA)

328 One of the three networks a few weeks ago had a story about using such databases to crack a cold murder case. Break ended before I learned if they did solve the case.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (iwiQ1)


The Golden State Killer? There's still some uncertainty about that one.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (kqsXK)

329 303 then just show Iron Eyes Cody, silently standing next to his canoe with a tear coming from his eye.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM (Kpl3J)

Isn't Cody Italaian?


1% Cherokee and 100% mort.

Posted by: Bander's Phone at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (hGIR2)

330 322
President Trump owes the fake indian nothing. He never made the deal."



Was a 2 parter: take DNA test, then shows she's "indian"



Owes her a hearty chuckle.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:42 AM (6qErC)


Well, he can't just offer to give her something and then take it back . . . that would make himmmmm. . . .. . oh, never mind

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (q1VoB)

331 Brought over from morning report:

The slain Congressman, Leo Ryan, had an aide who was wounded in Jonestown. She eventually ran for his seat, IIRC. For all I know, she's still in it.
=========

As others said, it was Jackie Speier. Another name that was wrapped up in that sickness was none other than Willie Brown, Kamala's Svengali.

Jones was put on the SF Housing Board, at the behest of Brown who thought Jones was just wonderful. Jones duped a lot of blacks into his bullshit.

If you can find it, PBS's American Experience did an excellent show on Jonestown, detailing all of this. I highly recommend it.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (vg8iE)

332 Fun Fact:
Mark Zuckerberg's wife, Priscilla Chan is the founder of 23
and Me, one of your friendly neighborhood consumer DNA testing outfits.


I believe you are thinking of Google co-founder Sergey Brin's ex-wife, Anne Wojcicki

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (Z216Q)

333 Donald Trump is an Indian Giver !!

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (/BXzQ)

334 she lied on a federal form she filled out for Harvard"

Hmm. You know, I can't help but wonder if others have claimed certain "heritage" for publicity or such...

Nah. Never happens.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (6qErC)

335 Donald Trump is an Indian Giver !!
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (/BXzQ)

LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (9MKXa)

336 Mark Zuckerberg's wife, Priscilla Chan is the founder of 23 and Me, one of your friendly neighborhood consumer DNA testing outfits.


Which is why I won't do those "tests"... Nobody needs a copy of my DNA

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2018 10:45 AM (O2RFr)

337 Love the horde. Come here to make a joke about the feather = proof of ancestry, and votermom at #13 is already on it! Well done.

Also love Rembrandt. His portraits always look like real ppl, not some NPC made up person. To have that skill...he was gifted beyond words.

Posted by: LizLem at October 16, 2018 10:45 AM (ttgDe)

338
270 Warren's DNA test include South American/ Central American markers

I'm tired today, and I initially read "markers" as "monkeys." I was so happy for a few seconds.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 16, 2018 10:33 AM (iys0/)


In a not yet widely seen footnote, Lizzie is credited with being 1/256th tree sloth, based on her genetic testing.

Lizzie Warren - More Sloth Than Cherokee!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:45 AM (pNxlR)

339 Those samples have about 2,000 different ways they can be contaminated and no Court in the US would allow them to be presented as evidence.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM

Genealogy databases being used to solve crimes?

One of the three networks a few weeks ago had a story about using such databases to crack a cold murder case. Break ended before I learned if they did solve the case.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:38 AM

Answering the two: You use the dna database to narrow the suspects. Then you collect your own court admissible dna sample from the trash.

They caught a 'bad cop' this way in a cold case.

Posted by: Embedded in my Pre-Frontal Cortex at October 16, 2018 10:45 AM (URwyc)

340 I don't think Warren has any better of a demeanor than Hillary, If you stuck Lizzie in a outfit from the early 1900's and gave her a long pointer she would remind everyone of one of those old time vinegary school marms.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2018 10:45 AM (AllCR)

341 334 she lied on a federal form she filled out for Harvard"

Hmm. You know, I can't help but wonder if others have claimed certain "heritage" for publicity or such...

Nah. Never happens.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (6qErC)

============

No one would ever commit a crime! That would be against the law!

Now, if we could just pass a law that said that no one was allowed to commit a crime, we'd have paradise!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 16, 2018 10:45 AM (9ZlHt)

342 My people have been oppressed for so long that they have oppressed the Cherokee DNA out of my system.

Even my Cherokee DNA is forced to hide itself from hate and oppression.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at October 16, 2018 10:46 AM (vbJig)

343 >>More likely any blood she does have is Narragansett or something


Negative. Warren's family is from Oklahoma not the New England area.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (/tuJf)

He was talking about the beer.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2018 10:46 AM (wYseH)

344 I find the family history stuff interesting. Tracking down the information is fun like solving a mystery. But those DNA places will never get mine.

Posted by: JTB at October 16, 2018 10:46 AM (V+03K)

345 I had a 10 Pc Chicken Nuggets for dinner last night.

Turns out, I'm now 1/1024 pigeon!

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2018 10:46 AM (ax1SH)

346 believe you are thinking of Google co-founder Sergey Brin's ex-wife, Anne
Wojcicki
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (Z216Q)
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Yup. Thanks. Jayzuss, as bad if not worse.


Posted by: Manatee of Punat, Krk at October 16, 2018 10:46 AM (MouFt)

347 Is this Khashoggi thing just journalists worrying about how a "journalist" was treated? Lotsa smoke but little fire. Or is embarrassing Trump the end game? As though Arabs need a reason to whack other Arabs. "

The killing of Kashoggi doesn't bother me much, I have no illusions about the Saudi's, never have. What's driving the noise now is the Saudi's intent in trying to push a flimsy and easily blown apart coverup, it makes them look not only murderous but stupid the longer it goes on. People can't resist picking at an obvious lie. Tell the truth and get it over with.

the Royals don't want to because, as Guardians of Mecca, they aren't supposed to be running hit squads taking out their muslim enemies. Which is hurtful to them because it's what Iran has always said they were doing.

The Arabs and the Iranians remind me of a couple I once knew, miserable people to be around, both of them always lied and connived and cheated people around them and cheated each other. It got to the point where I would tell people that knew them, that the only time you could ever believe either one of them was when they swore that the other one was lying.

When the Iranians say that the Arabs are lying backstabbing murderers, they're right. When the Arabs say that the Iranians are even worse, they're right too. That's life in the Middle East.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2018 10:46 AM (Kpl3J)

348 Whoa! What does Cher think about this? Cher as in CHERokee! To hell with these tribal elders... lets go right to the highest authority!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 16, 2018 10:47 AM (In2xl)

349 Fun fact: Priscilla Chan is a Chinese national and really interested in having medical information on Facebook for some reason. She got Zuckerberg to do the organ donor form on FB for example. The jokes write themselves

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 10:47 AM (6wv+V)

350 I had a 10 Pc Chicken Nuggets for dinner last night.

Turns out, I'm now 1/1024 pigeon!"

From the chinese joint?

You're 1/1024 cat.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:47 AM (6qErC)

351 Warren is 80% dictatorial commie and 20% cranky schoolmarm.

Posted by: alidade at October 16, 2018 10:47 AM (0u4m0)

352 Well, a Cherokee chief as he dances alongHe does an Indian boogie to a white man's song
Singin' hey ho a lina, hey ho a linaA well a hey ho a lina, wup wup a witten a yeah

Picture Liz Wanking Squaw dancing arond the stripper pole to that song


More like this song:

https://tinyurl.com/ohayq4x

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2018 10:47 AM (kqsXK)

353 Nobody needs a copy of my DNA

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2018 10:45 AM (O2RFr)

23andMe just sold their data....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2018 10:47 AM (wYseH)

354 The Middle East - Its Complicated.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:47 AM (iwiQ1)

355 Donald Trump is an Indian Giver !!
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (/BXzQ)

LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 10:44 AM (9MKXa)

----

....and sits Indian style.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (8XRCm)

356 Things that Democrats can't find:

1. Proof of Russian collusion.
2. Proof that Christine Ford was assaulted.
3. Proof that Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee.

Feel free to add your own.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (vbJig)

357 353 Nobody needs a copy of my DNA

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2018 10:45 AM (O2RFr)

23andMe just sold their data....

I know

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (O2RFr)

358 Those samples have about 2,000 different ways they can be contaminated and no Court in the US would allow them to be presented as evidence.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (JUOKG)
+++++++++++
DNA probably shouldn't be accepted anyway - not because DNA doesn't work, but because processes around DNA don't. Contamination is common, handling is often sloppy, clerical errors are a big problem, etc. TechDirt had an article about a study that found a distressing amount of error in DNA results - from people who weren't there, to contamination leading to wild goose chases, etc.

DNA is amazing and (as far as we know) extremely accurate. But the infrastructure around DNA testing and analysis may not be so good. Prosecutors' increasing dependence on DNA to get conviction is troubling given the errors.

https://tinyurl.com/y7wy7h6l

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (I2dne)

359 >>He was talking about the beer.

C'mon, nobody would claim that.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (/tuJf)

360 There is no reason to vote Democrat unless you are a rock or as smart as one.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (AQ/cL)

361 You know why the Dutch wore brown pants in battle?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (vbJig)

362 Someone needs to accuse Warren of European cultural appropriation. Mostly Socialism.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (/BXzQ)

363 Cher as in CHERokee!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6E98ZRaU1s

She looked good on that horse...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (6qErC)

364 >>Nobody needs...my DNA


I'd say that, but some women wear it well.

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (ax1SH)

365 1. Proof of Russian collusion.
2. Proof that Christine Ford was assaulted.
3. Proof that Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee.

Feel free to add your own.

4. proof of intelligent life in the Democrat party

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (O2RFr)

366
Elizabeth Warren won't be the Democrat nominee for President, I expect. It will either be Commie La or Spartacus Booker. ;She might be the VP, or as someone noted earlier Indians are always the sidekick .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (AllCR)


That not funny!

-- zombie Jay Silverheels

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 10:49 AM (pNxlR)

367 I think J.J. has one on the Morning Report.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 16, 2018 10:32 AM (lwiT4)

Thanks grammie!

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2018 10:49 AM (cF8AT)

368 Yet she talked about her lineage from the Delaware tribe on at least one occasion.
Posted by: grammie winger

http://delawaretribe.org/
locations/bartlesville-headquarters/

Posted by: dd at October 16, 2018 10:49 AM (Eg7tS)

369 >>Nobody needs...my DNA


I'd say that, but some women wear it well.
Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (ax1SH)

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AS JEWELRY!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:49 AM (8XRCm)

370 Things that Democrats can't find:

1. Proof of Russian collusion.
2. Proof that Christine Ford was assaulted.
3. Proof that Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee.

Feel free to add your own.
=========

Speaking of Ford, that bit in the Leslie Stahl interview had my BP through the roof.

"Oh, you were mocking her....she could remember the laughing boys."

What a crock of shit.

She's a damn liar. Either Leslie Stahl is a propagandist or she's astonishingly gullible and stupid. Yes, I will embrace the healing power of "and."

It really infuriated me.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2018 10:49 AM (vg8iE)

371 REMOVE FAKE SQUAW

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:49 AM (fA1SL)

372

I always though they called them "uniforms." Silly me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2018 10:49 AM (HaL55)

373 >>she lied on a federal form

That's a TrumpCamp sentence, citizen.

Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (Bdeb0)

374 340
I don't think Warren has any better of a demeanor than Hillary, If you
stuck Lizzie in a outfit from the early 1900's and gave her a long
pointer she would remind everyone of one of those old time vinegary
school marms.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2018 10:45 AM (AllCR)

Fauxcohantas' husband is at Harvard - whose research focuses on the relationship among legal, social, and
economic change in early America. He began at Harvard Law School in Fall
2006, after being the Leon Meltzer Professor of Law and Professor of
History at the Univ. of Penn.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (jxbfJ)

375 "My DNA's just been sold,"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (iwiQ1)

376 as bad if not worse.

Posted by: Manatee of Punat, Krk at October 16, 2018 10:46 AM (MouFt)


totally agree- worse

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (Z216Q)

377 Cher, Iron Eyes Cody, and Elizabeth Warren walk into a bar...

Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (NLLmE)

378 -
--
There is no reason to vote Democrat unless you are a rock or as smart as one.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM

--------------

Don't know if I like that or not.

Posted by: Dwayne Johnson at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (pMGkg)

379 Nice Feather Solider

I'm in the Army and I'm Gay,
But that don't mean I swish and sway

Sound off

One-two-three-four

Posted by: Major Flamer at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (fgU6C)

380 375 "My DNA's just been sold,"
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (iwiQ1)

It stuck the pages of the centerfold

Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (NWiLs)

381 "My DNA's just been sold,"

--------
Your blood runs cold
Your Angel is a centerfold!!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (8XRCm)

382 Cher, Iron Eyes Cody, and Elizabeth Warren walk into a bar..

And someone throws garbage at their feet?.

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (O2RFr)

383 Feel free to add your own."

Hmm. College records?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (6qErC)

384 Don't know if I like that or not.

Posted by: Dwayne Johnson at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (pMGkg)
+++++++++
"A rock" - not "The Rock."
Make Articles Great Again

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (I2dne)

385 356
Things that Democrats can't find:



Feel free to add your own.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (vbJig)

Dont forget AGW. Think how frustrated they are that they can't fool us.

Posted by: alidade at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (0u4m0)

386 356
Things that Democrats can't find:



1. Proof of Russian collusion.

2. Proof that Christine Ford was assaulted.

3. Proof that Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee.



Feel free to add your own.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (vbJig)
4. The truth.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (jxbfJ)

387 The Golden State Killer? There's still some uncertainty about that one. "

From what I've read of the case, not a whole lot of uncertainty. After he came up as a possibility because of the DNA, looking back revealed that he had been a "person of interest" in the original investigation, but his name got thrown out because he was a cop and they figured "nah, a cop wouldn't have done that."

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (Kpl3J)

388 Do believe I have seen this gentleman or a facsimile at the Ohio Renaissance Festival in years past.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (pFljN)

389 If the Democrats continue to melt down maybe they soon won't have any supporters left apart from the shrieking lunatics and, of course, the neverTrumpers.
I do acknowledge the media will do their best to keep that collapse from occurring.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (nBr1j)

390 373.
You can always tell your neighbor,
You can always tell your pal
If you ever excavated on the Palpy Canal!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR, and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (fA1SL)

391 Oh, you don't want your child euthanized? Well, this is awkward...

Posted by: HealthCare Canada at October 16, 2018 10:51 AM (C78No)

392 No one could paint textures like Rembrandt. No one. In his paintings, you can almost smell the leather, feel the rough grain of the wood, flick your finger on the metal and hear it ting.

Posted by: troyriser at October 16, 2018 10:52 AM (1JpTT)

393 Cher, Iron Eyes Cody, and Elizabeth Warren walk into a bar..."

You think one of them would've seen it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:52 AM (6qErC)

394 Cher, Iron Eyes Cody, and Elizabeth Warren walk into a bar...
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (NLLmE)

------

Bartender says to the barmaid.... "$10 bucks says they cant walk out... again".

Posted by: fixerupper at October 16, 2018 10:52 AM (8XRCm)

395 hear it ting."

That's rayciss!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:52 AM (6qErC)

396 "My DNA's just been sold,"
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (iwiQ1)



My angel is the centerfold


Posted by: J. Geils Band at October 16, 2018 10:52 AM (+ZoLn)

397 155 >>My first overseas trip was to London. We passed a pub that was 500 years old. I could not wrap my head around such a thing. My city is closing in on its bicentennial, but to have a business operating for more than double that is...

Right across the street from the Cologne train station that is in the news lately is the Cologne Cathedral. Spectacular gothic church that has one of if not the tallest spires in Europe. It was built starting in the 1200's.

Always amazed at the architecture of European churches and cathedrals from that period. Not a lot of hydraulic cranes to work with back then.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:06 AM (/tuJf)

The central train station immediately next to the Cathedral was utterly destroyed by Allied bombing, but the Cathedral, although peppered with shrapnel, miraculously survived the war. Next to the Kolner Dom (Cologne Cathedral) now stands a museum dedicated to the ancient Roman outpost of Colonia. Overlooking the Rhine River, bombs opened huge craters mere yards from the church's walls, revealing an ancient villa & settlement ruins. The tile work & mosaics were beautiful and mostly intact. I remember the perimeter of the floor was accented with - swastikas, repeating all around the room. Intense moment of irony, from 1600 yr old ruins, only revealed by the destruction of the Reich.

Posted by: Heirloominati at October 16, 2018 10:52 AM (MAkyw)

398 DNA is amazing and (as far as we know) extremely accurate. But the infrastructure around DNA testing and analysis may not be so good. Prosecutors' increasing dependence on DNA to get conviction is troubling given the errors.

https://tinyurl.com/y7wy7h6l
Posted by: Joe Mannix

>I heard the German police thought a serial killer was raging through. They tested the DNA and linked it to a factory worker-- who works in the cotton swabs factory that the police use for DNA testing.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 10:52 AM (AQ/cL)

399 374

His area of research sounds interesting, but it doesn't make Liz Warren anymore of an appealing personality type.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2018 10:52 AM (AllCR)

400 REMOVE FAKE SQUAW

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine



FORMAT: F

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (0mP7b)

401 >> 23andMe just sold their data....

Omg. Their big sell is that they will help you determine your medical make-up too, what genetically you will be susceptible to. So not only are they selling your ancestry line away, but your medical history.

The only one I trust at the moment is Ancestry.com. It is run by the LDS church and I think they are pretty protective of that info. Plus they have a huge genetic database to draw from so they have good results. I cannot see them ever needing to sell it for profit. But if they do I will be furious.

Posted by: LizLem at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (ttgDe)

402 Things that Democrats can't find:


Cause and effect

Logical comparisons

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (/BXzQ)

403 Cher, Iron Eyes Cody, and Elizabeth Warren walk into a bar..."



Bartender asks Cody to please leave the trash outside.

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (Rr52g)

404 My problem with DNA databases is not so much what the government will do with it, though that's a worry, it's what private companies and-- especially -- NGO's like PlannedParenthood will do.

The eugenicists among us will love combining their fake theories of human improvement with a DNA information, and lord only knows where they will try to carry those fake theories once armed with DNA info. That's my worry.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (Z216Q)

405 Morning, Horde. Just wanted to check in, in case anyone's heard about the flooding on the Llano River. I'm fine, and so are my parents--we're well out of the flood plain--but things are scary. I think it's finally stopped raining for the moment, or at least it's let up, but there's been at least one bridge wash out, and there's more water coming down from upriver.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (viuMu)

406 -
--

"My DNA's just been sold,"


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM

--------------------------

Someone bought my centerfold.

Posted by: J Geils at October 16, 2018 10:54 AM (pMGkg)

407 "Cher, Iron Eyes Cody, and Elizabeth Warren walk into a bar..."

A typical Thursday at The Blue Oyster lounge.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 10:54 AM (O7MnT)

408 Oh well, guess I'm gonna buy it.

Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2018 10:54 AM (NLLmE)

409 Things that Democrats can't find:



1. Proof of Russian collusion.

2. Proof that Christine Ford was assaulted.

3. Proof that Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee.



Feel free to add your own.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (vbJig)

4. The truth.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

>5. Sanity
6. Americanism
7. The votes

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 10:54 AM (AQ/cL)

410 Things that Democrats can't find:

A sin they don't support.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2018 10:55 AM (C78No)

411 409 Things that Democrats can't find:



1. Proof of Russian collusion.

2. Proof that Christine Ford was assaulted.

3. Proof that Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee.



Feel free to add your own.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (vbJig)

4. The truth.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

>5. Sanity
6. Americanism
7. The votes
Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 10:54 AM (AQ/cL)

============

8. A book to read other than Harry Potter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Order The Battle of Lake Erie in Paperback Today! at October 16, 2018 10:55 AM (9ZlHt)

412 President Trump owes the fake indian nothing. He never made the deal.


white man speak with forked tongue

*single tear rolls down cheek*

Posted by: Fauxcahontas at October 16, 2018 10:55 AM (VckGX)

413 1. Proof of Russian collusion.
2. Proof that Christine Ford was assaulted.
3. Proof that Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee.

Feel free to add your own.

4. proof of intelligent life in the Democrat party
Posted by: It's me donna


5. Proof that Hillary accomplished anything other than giving classified e-mails to a pervert.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2018 10:55 AM (tqyrn)

414 I heard the German police thought a serial killer was raging through. They tested the DNA and linked it to a factory worker-- who works in the cotton swabs factory that the police use for DNA testing.
Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 10:52 AM (AQ/cL)
+++++++
They talk about that one:
In one stunning example of DNA testing's flaws, European law enforcement spent years chasing a nonexistent serial killer whose DNA was scattered across several crime scenes before coming to the realization the DNA officers kept finding belonged to the person packaging the testing swabs used by investigators.

I guess that manufacturer had high consistency and employee retention, though...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 16, 2018 10:55 AM (I2dne)

415 >>My DNA's just been sold,"
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:50 AM (iwiQ1)



>My angel is the centerfold

I heard that too. Scary.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2018 10:56 AM (/tuJf)

416 403
Cher, Iron Eyes Cody, and Elizabeth Warren walk into a bar..."







Bartender asks Cody to please leave the trash outside.

Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (Rr52g)


So Cher and Warren leave.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 16, 2018 10:56 AM (q1VoB)

417 So a Dim spokesperson says (Boston Herald) " But I have no interest whatever in shaking Sen. Warren's family tree..."

Yeah, jokes write themselves.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (6qErC)

418 *giggles*

Beto Beano showing true Democrat colors. Says he won't share with other Democrats the $38 million in contributions he has.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (iwiQ1)

419 405 Morning, Horde. Just wanted to check in, in case anyone's heard about the flooding on the Llano River. I'm fine, and so are my parents--we're well out of the flood plain--but things are scary. I think it's finally stopped raining for the moment, or at least it's let up, but there's been at least one bridge wash out, and there's more water coming down from upriver.
Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (viuMu)

Long time no see. Glad you're OK, stay safe.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (J+mig)

420 Heyyyy ladies. It's erotic to use a feather and kinky to use the entire emu. *leers*

Posted by: Old Man in Portrait at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (dZe7J)

421 Attempting to capitalize on the success of Half-Breed, the next album Cher put out had a song called, "War Paint, Soft Feathers."

It's out of print and I've never heard the song, but I've read about it. Apparently, it's on Youtube as I've just discovered.... The album was called "Cherished."

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (vg8iE)

422 17 Nice collar piece. I wonder how he pulled it over his head?
-----
He didn't, Granny, there is a hinged fastener in the back. Not the easiest thing to don by one's self! But the gorget worn singly was the mark of an officer of some sort, so in his day the old man was a lieutenant or captain, and therefore had some servant to help him put it on. By the time George Washington first donned uniform, the gorget had shrunk from the piece of armor seen above to a little U-shaped ornament hung by a chain. It still meant "salute this guy" though.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (pFljN)

423 Morning, Horde. Just wanted to check in, in case anyone's heard about the flooding on the Llano River. I'm fine, and so are my parents--we're well out of the flood plain--but things are scary. I think it's finally stopped raining for the moment, or at least it's let up, but there's been at least one bridge wash out, and there's more water coming down from upriver.
Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe


Good to hear you are ok. Saw video a friend posted on Fb. Scary stuff.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (0mP7b)

424 I acknowledge what jackstraw says about her family. I just wasn't aware of her Oklahoma roots. But the timeline is still very suspect

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (6wv+V)

425 >>their fake theories of human improvement Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vote Red! at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (Z216Q)

I am interested in the cut of your jib. Accordingly, you will forward your newsletter to Zod, c/o Zod Publications Department.

Posted by: Zod at October 16, 2018 10:58 AM (Bdeb0)

426 Prosecutors' increasing dependence on DNA to get conviction is troubling given the errors.


----------------

Circumstantial evidence is much better. The problem with DNA evidence is it is "accurate" that it is hard to refute. But how accurate can something be when it is being handled and tested by humans. It can be made to look damning.

Posted by: SH at October 16, 2018 10:58 AM (sX1BW)

427 the next album Cher put out had a song called, "War Paint, Soft Feathers."

Shoulda worn that "indian" bikini again...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:58 AM (6qErC)

428
314 So did I. Maybe that is why my .MIL email is Never. Jewboy.giveup@Navy.Mil?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2018 10:41 AM (9MKXa)

Back in my yout, I shot pool in the Student Union with a Jewish kid from Utah. He called himself "Norman the Mormon, the only Jew in Salt Lake City."

Posted by: BJM at October 16, 2018 10:58 AM (O74hG)

429 "Does this hat make my ass look big?"

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (Fb9aZ)

430 Things that Democrats can't find:




The Blue Wave

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (oVJmc)

431 I guess that manufacturer had high consistency and employee retention, though...
Posted by: Joe Mannix

>One can only ponder how it got there and how many smeared the DNA in their ears.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (AQ/cL)

432 Morning, Horde. Just wanted to check in, in case
anyone's heard about the flooding on the Llano River. I'm fine, and so
are my parents--we're well out of the flood plain--but things are scary.
I think it's finally stopped raining for the moment, or at least it's
let up, but there's been at least one bridge wash out, and there's more
water coming down from upriver. Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at October 16, 2018 10:53 AM (viuMu)
=====

Thanks for letting us know. Stay safe.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (MIKMs)

433 *giggles*

Beto Beano showing true Democrat colors. Says he won't share with other Democrats the $38 million in contributions he has.
Posted by: Anna Puma


If kalifornians had wanted others to have some money, they'd have sent them some.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (0mP7b)

434 >>>Where do Big Bird's brown feathers come from?<<<

Xhe's 1/1024th part crow.

Posted by: Fritz at October 16, 2018 11:00 AM (2Mnv1)

435 Glad to hear you are at least out of the flood waters Elisabeth. Say safe if you can't stay dry.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 11:00 AM (iwiQ1)

436 I just wasn't aware of her Oklahoma roots"

Still not. Everything I've read says her GGP were from England and Switzerland, moved to New England, then family moved to Missouri, then OK.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 11:00 AM (6qErC)

437 NOOD

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at October 16, 2018 11:00 AM (YuQLm)

438 Beto Beano showing true Democrat colors. Says he won't share with other Democrats the $38 million in contributions he has.

Pretty sure this means he knows he's going to lose. If he thought he was going to win, he'd share it with other Democrats to gain their loyalty.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 16, 2018 11:01 AM (O7MnT)

439 Omg. Their big sell is that they will help you determine your medical make-up too, what genetically you will be susceptible to. So not only are they selling your ancestry line away, but your medical history

+++

Um, yeah. That was the whole point of the exercise. Didn't you know?

Posted by: Total Control Racist at October 16, 2018 11:01 AM (6wv+V)

440 Still not. Everything I've read says her GGP were from England and Switzerland, moved to New England, then family moved to Missouri, then OK.
=========

Obviously following the great Prairie Crab migration.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2018 11:01 AM (vg8iE)

441 Hmmm .... Lottery Jackpots at extreme highs ... at same time Gulf Coast real estate is at lows.

This must be what I've heard called "a sign".

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 16, 2018 11:01 AM (fyr/6)

442 A post at American Thinker has all kinds of reverse-Alinsky potential:

"It's Time to End Women's Sports"

https://tinyurl.com/yaelobml

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 16, 2018 11:02 AM (HiLJ1)

443
*giggles*

Beto Beano showing true Democrat colors. Says he won't share with other Democrats the $38 million in contributions he has.
=====

My admittedly limited understanding is that campaign money is kept after the election. Talk about a lottery windfall!

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 16, 2018 11:02 AM (MIKMs)

444 >>Things that Democrats can't find:


>The Blue Wave
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (oVJmc)

Great "Blue Wave" meme with Trump on a Time magazine cover.


Posted by: J. Geils Band at October 16, 2018 11:03 AM (+ZoLn)

445 DNA is amazing and (as far as we know) extremely accurate. But the infrastructure around DNA testing and analysis may not be so good. Prosecutors' increasing dependence on DNA to get conviction is troubling given the errors.


Other problems:

Not all crimes involve DNA evidence. Becoming dependent upon DNA evidence makes solving and prosecuting cases without any weaker than they are.

DNA evidence is being used by bad actors to 'exclude' criminals from crimes. "No DNA of person X was found. thus excluding him."

Not all crimes involve DNA, and some with multiple criminals do not result in DNA from ALL criminals. So saying that a lack of DNA automatically excludes someone is false. The attack on the Central park jogger is an example of that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2018 11:03 AM (tqyrn)

446
>>Things that Democrats can't find:


>The Blue Wave
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (oVJmc)


Great "Blue Wave" meme with Trump on a Time magazine cover.
Posted by: J. Geils Band at October 16, 2018 11:03 AM (+ZoLn)

Oops. Link:

>>Things that Democrats can't find:



>The Blue Wave
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (oVJmc)


oops. Link:
https://deskgram.net/p/1884401218467835959_3565654745

Posted by: J. Geils Band at October 16, 2018 11:04 AM (+ZoLn)

447 BigGov already records everything, apparently for the whole world. So even without the actual DNA, the digital DNA can trace most people even more closely than actual DNA would allow.


Since 5 Eyes and contractors were seemingly granted access to everything, bad actors no doubt collected full "dossiers" on all their political enemies. We know China walked out the door with records of all fed employees, and now we know the 5Eye "friends" were involved in trying to stop Trump and helping frame him for Hillary crimes.

That has all the markings of a 'DeepState' operation, or a globalist NWO that is already operational, they just failed to inform US that the oligarchs are already running the country. They don't need our DNA, they have all our financial records. Retaining the House in November is critical for retaining any chance of bringing the Rosie/Mueller coup to an end. imo

Posted by: illiniwek at October 16, 2018 11:05 AM (Cus5s)

448 Rachel Dolenzal and Shaun King have a stronger claim to African-American ancestry than Liz Warren does by calling herself a Cherokee.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2018 11:05 AM (NFEMn)

449 418
*giggles*

Beto Beano showing true Democrat colors. Says he won't share with other Democrats the $38 million in contributions he has.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (iwiQ1)

**
He is holding onto his $$ because this retard actually thinks that he has a shot at the next dem US Presidential nomination. So did Abortion Barbie - remember her? These leftards never learn. After Cruz spanks him by somewhere between ten and eleven points the DNC will drop him like a hot potato and move on to nominating a "safe" Biden by stacking the deck against lunatics like Kamaltoe etc. Trump will beat Biden like a rented mule on his way to a landslide electoral and, this time, popular vote landslide win.
Oh Beta male - Plus ca change. Plus ca la meme chose.

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 16, 2018 11:06 AM (Fb9aZ)

450 Thanks, all. AP, I do intend to stay dry!

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at October 16, 2018 11:07 AM (viuMu)

451
417 So a Dim spokesperson says (Boston Herald) " But I have no interest whatever in shaking Sen. Warren's family tree..."


She's a joker, she's a toker, she's a midnight smoker

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 11:07 AM (pNxlR)

452 434
>>>Where do Big Bird's brown feathers come from?<<<

Xhe's 1/1024th part crow.


Posted by: Fritz at October 16, 2018 11:00 AM (2Mnv1)

Chipotle

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 16, 2018 11:07 AM (jxbfJ)

453 white man speak with forked tongue

*single tear rolls down cheek*
Posted by: Fauxcahontas at October 16, 2018 10:55 AM (VckGX)

Ciao!

Posted by: Iron Eyes Cody at October 16, 2018 11:08 AM (NFEMn)

454
Beto Beano showing true Democrat colors. Says he won't share with other Democrats the $38 million in contributions he has.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2018 10:57 AM (iwiQ1)


Well, there go his "authentic socialist" bona fides ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 11:09 AM (pNxlR)

455 So a Dim spokesperson says (Boston Herald) " But I have no interest whatever in shaking Sen. Warren's family tree..."

She's a joker, she's a toker, she's a midnight smoker
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2018 11:07 AM (pNxlR)

But who loves her "peaches?"

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2018 11:09 AM (NFEMn)

456 Omg. Their big sell is that they will help you determine your medical make-up too, what genetically you will be susceptible to. So not only are they selling your ancestry line away, but your medical history

+++

Um, yeah. That was the whole point of the exercise. Didn't you know?
=====
That an worldwide billionaire organ bank. Volunteering not necessary.

Posted by: soros at October 16, 2018 11:09 AM (cz4yY)

457 446


>>Things that Democrats can't find:



>The Blue Wave
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (oVJmc)


Great "Blue Wave" meme with Trump on a Time magazine cover.
Posted by: J. Geils Band at October 16, 2018 11:03 AM (+ZoLn)

Oops. Link:


>>Things that Democrats can't find:




>The Blue Wave
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 16, 2018 10:59 AM (oVJmc)


oops. Link:
https://deskgram.net/p/1884401218467835959_3565654745





Posted by: J. Geils Band at October 16, 2018 11:04 AM (+ZoLn)

This could only be better if PDT was getting ready to piss on it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 16, 2018 11:10 AM (jxbfJ)

458 Omg. Their big sell is that they will help you determine your medical make-up too, what genetically you will be susceptible to. So not only are they selling your ancestry line away, but your medical history

+++

Isn't this what's behind CVS buying Aetna?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2018 11:11 AM (NFEMn)

459 288 Scotty
Your faith in the police and courts is amusing.
People have already been convicted on Ancestry.com evidence and their sentences upheld.
Please do not use the phrase "this could never happen."

Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at October 16, 2018 11:11 AM (swldI)

460 If they've narrowed down the differences between American Indian vs non-American Indian, have they identified the genes that give them their respective appearance traits? Ie. cheekbones, pigmentation, etc.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 16, 2018 11:11 AM (/qEW2)

461 Time and all MFM reveals they are just propagandists and cheerleaders for the commie left.


rah Rah RAH Bluuue Waaave .... now jump up, bend over in those cute little skirts ... Team Commie cheer girlz


in the face of the actual polling, which shows no such thing (except in fake polls with bad samples or other manipualitons

Posted by: illiniwek at October 16, 2018 11:12 AM (Cus5s)

462 Nood.
The great ape is up.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 16, 2018 11:13 AM (jxbfJ)

463 "People have already been convicted on Ancestry.com evidence and their sentences upheld.Please do not use the phrase "this could never happen."posted by: Le Garde Vieux

what evidence could that be? Having ugly ancestors?

really, Idon't get it, unless they revealed their true identity after living under an alias. But that would only tie them to the real evidence ... not sure how ancestry would be useful until their is a purge of certain families.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 16, 2018 11:17 AM (Cus5s)

464 I'd assume the DNA test that compares a sample (at a crime scene, say) with the suspect's is more accurate than one that tests for an ethnic tie since it's comparing the entirety of the chromosomes. The case of the woman contaminating the swabs was a procedural error, it shouldn't invalidate the accuracy of the tests in general.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 16, 2018 11:22 AM (/qEW2)

465 "Truth be told, my grandmother was Dutch"
--- the nascent Sheriff Bart

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2018 11:31 AM (RuIsu)

466 283
Negative. Warren's family is from Oklahoma not the New England area."



Supposedly Granddad or so was the one from England, moved to New
England post Civil War, married a Swiss woman, moved to Missouri.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 16, 2018 10:36 AM (6qErC)


So Warren's granddad came from England and married a Swiss woman? But the DNA sample indicates that it's a tenth generation connection, other wise it's background noise?

That's got to be at least 8 Problematics on the problem scale.



Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 16, 2018 11:33 AM (ymnmz)

467 5 1. Proof of Russian collusion.
2. Proof that Christine Ford was assaulted.
3. Proof that Elizabeth Warren is Cherokee.

Feel free to add your own.

4. proof of intelligent life in the Democrat party
Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2018 10:48 AM (O2RFr)

5. Proof of Corey Booker's friend T-Bone.

Posted by: Sooner at October 16, 2018 11:49 AM (Fs5vw)

468 And the feather was molted off the Ostrich all birds molt after all

Posted by: Tamaa the Bird 1000 Voices at October 16, 2018 04:39 PM (wGqjj)

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Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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