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An American's Reading List: What Should Everyone Read?

Most of us are all too aware of the failings of the current American educational system. Home schooling is one antidote, but what about for people who have survived its leftist indoctrination intact, but are still handicapped by the many inadequacies of a typical trip through public school and college?

What to read? There are lists...the 100 great books comes to mind...but some of those lists assume a basic knowledge of world and American history, and I fear that that supposition is incorrect.

The Bible, The Iliad, Plato, St. Augustine, Shakespeare, Dante, Machiavelli, Adam Smith, Chesterton, Conrad, The Federalist Papers, Gibbon, etc.

It's a huge list, and a daunting one.

So...where to start? Maybe five books per year, and a five year limit. So 25 books that will provide the basis for an understanding of Western philosophy and American Exceptionalism.

Yup, it's a tall order, and I don't think it is possible. But the idea is to pique an interest in the topic, not to provide a comprehensive list.

So...me first.

"Adventures Of Huckleberry Finn."

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




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1 Road to Serfdom.

Posted by: The ARC of History at September 16, 2018 02:05 PM (I2/tG)

2 Well you defiantly should start with the Bible and New Testament.

These are the books that's shaped much of the world we inhabit today.


After that's its pretty much Lock, Burke, Alexis De Tocqueville, Aristotle, Machiavelli, you know, the usual suspects.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 16, 2018 02:07 PM (kT3/m)

3 Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: John Gault at September 16, 2018 02:13 PM (vrcSl)

4 Basic Economics by Sowell.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 16, 2018 02:15 PM (pw+jk)

5 The Federalist Papers and the thoughts of the anti-federalists to understand the founding. Shakespeare for certain, and from there one would need more than 5 years.

Posted by: colfax mingo at September 16, 2018 02:15 PM (tCvhJ)

6 The Great Gatsby

Posted by: Pete in TX at September 16, 2018 02:16 PM (2RBkF)

7 I'd say our Constitution but even for many that requires a basis in fundamental learning and assumes knowing Locke, the Bible and Aristotle. The Federalist Papers for certain.

Posted by: Winston at September 16, 2018 02:16 PM (wgCUV)

8 Anyone have an email address for Sefton?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:16 PM (Et1Ic)

9 Is this Book Thread II?

Posted by: Surfperch at September 16, 2018 02:17 PM (hVHEm)

10 Moby Dick. Because life is full of pain.

Posted by: pep at September 16, 2018 02:17 PM (T6t7i)

11 Twain's first book, "The Innocents Abroad."

Henry Mayhew's "London Labour & the London Poor."

Theodore Dalrymple's "Life at the Bottom."

Terry Pratchett's "The Colour of Magic."

Posted by: aelfheld at September 16, 2018 02:18 PM (Zy9Yy)

12 Does the Constitution count as a book?

Posted by: Surfperch at September 16, 2018 02:18 PM (hVHEm)

13 Anything you want to know about life can be found in the pages of Robinson Crusoe. Pretty much.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:18 PM (Et1Ic)

14 The Odyssey

Posted by: DR.WTF? at September 16, 2018 02:19 PM (T71PA)

15 This a good resource for the kind of self-education you describe:

https://tinyurl.com/y7sselub

Posted by: bluebell at September 16, 2018 02:20 PM (C1PQi)

16 Perhaps Common Sense by Thomas Paine.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 16, 2018 02:20 PM (hVHEm)

17 Albion's Seed.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at September 16, 2018 02:20 PM (j4zcI)

18 The Bible, The Iliad, Plato, St. Augustine, Shakespeare, Dante,
Machiavelli, Adam Smith, Chesterton, Conrad, The Federalist Papers,
Gibbon, etc.


Yeah, no. The average person's attention span just isn't that long, nor is their vocabulary sufficient to the task. Comprehension is right out.

Stick to the basics, condensed to the really important bits. Example: you don't need to read about barrels of herring per country to get the gist of the free market (Smith).

Posted by: pep at September 16, 2018 02:20 PM (T6t7i)

19 Your car's owners manual...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 16, 2018 02:21 PM (6qErC)

20 Carnage and Culture by Victor Davis Hanson

Posted by: tmitsss at September 16, 2018 02:21 PM (xlzu7)

21 Anyone have an email address for Sefton?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:16 PM (Et1Ic)
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Try emailing CBD. I'll bet he could help you.

cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

Posted by: bluebell at September 16, 2018 02:23 PM (C1PQi)

22 Travels with Charlie

Posted by: Buck Ofama at September 16, 2018 02:23 PM (uc7du)

23 Anything by Thomas Sowell, but:

Basic economics.
Vision of the anointed.
The quest for cosmic justice.
The trilogy - Race & Culture, Migration & culture, Conquest & Culture.

Posted by: harbqll at September 16, 2018 02:23 PM (ffpKJ)

24 Starship Troopers.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 16, 2018 02:23 PM (y87Qq)

25 19 Your car's owners manual...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 16, 2018 02:21 PM (6qErC)

+++

Not a half bad idea...in so many aspects.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 02:24 PM (dI3/S)

26 Given the state of American education may be a couple of precursor books" Bennet's Our Sacred Honor and Book of Virtues might help.

Posted by: rammajamma at September 16, 2018 02:25 PM (xceTB)

27 I got nuthin, not one of the literati. My idea of American Exceptionalism came from the fact of my family leaving their home country to make a better life here. I learned about American govt. from C-SPAN.

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 02:25 PM (VyOxI)

28 Are we limiting to American books only?

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2018 02:25 PM (T4oHT)

29 Blue Highways

Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 16, 2018 02:25 PM (bZ76Y)

30 Hero With a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell

Posted by: Kaner at September 16, 2018 02:26 PM (rR7m4)

31 Book theead continued!!!

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at September 16, 2018 02:26 PM (VpGSD)

32 War and Peace, wrote that in the book thread this morning

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2018 02:26 PM (T4oHT)

33 The Fountainhead

Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 16, 2018 02:26 PM (PkVlr)

34 Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry
Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury (now more than ever)
Witness by Whittaker Chambers
The Right Stuff by Tom Wolfe
The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe
The Boys of Summer by Roger Kahn (maybe the best book ever)
With The Old Breed by EB Sledge
1984 by George Orwell
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
The Seven Per Cent Solution by Nicholas Meyer (because it's fun, at least for Sherlock Holmes fans)

Posted by: ncc at September 16, 2018 02:26 PM (fWbdp)

35 - The Federalist Papers
- The Call of the Wild
- Lonesome Dove
- Gone With The Wind
- Grapes of Wrath
- On The Road
- Last of the Mohicans
- My Side of the Mountain
- The Liberal Tradition in America ["liberal" here meaning "classical liberal"]

Posted by: Bert G at September 16, 2018 02:28 PM (OMsf+)

36 Modern Times, Paul Johnson

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 02:28 PM (NFEMn)

37 Forget it Jake, this is Chinatown.

Posted by: Deacon Bleau at September 16, 2018 02:29 PM (yScAF)

38 Anglosphere:

A History of the English-Speaking Peoples, Winston Churchill
...English-Speaking Peoples Since 1900, Andrew Roberts
Replenishing the Earth, James Belich
Democracy in the Dominions, Brady Alexander

Posted by: RioBravo at September 16, 2018 02:29 PM (iQKgg)

39 The Sleepwalkers, Christopher Clark--about the run-up to WW1.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 02:30 PM (NFEMn)

40 I'm reminded that Hillsdale College has a wonderful online education series that includes The Great Books 101 and 102. https://online.hillsdale.edu

Posted by: Kaner at September 16, 2018 02:30 PM (rR7m4)

41 Any of the great encyclopedia sets printed before, say, the 2000's, or so.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 02:31 PM (dI3/S)

42 While this is certainly not a bad idea, but for probably half the population of this country (especially the younger, already brainwashed crowd), they have neither the time, inclination nor intellect to wade through all those books. A pity, really...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (oiwwc)

43 Albion's Seed.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at September 16, 2018 02:20 PM (j4zcI)

Good choice.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (NFEMn)

44 Blue Highways
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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Meh, maybe. I read the follow-up book (a friend pressed it on me), River Horse, and found it fairly insipid. Haven't read 'Highways' so I cannot comment directly.

Anyone who adopts the name 'William Least Heat-Moon' ought to be viewed as suspect. I would describe the book as Ken Burns, with overtones of Garrison Keilor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (Et1Ic)

45 You gotta read at least one Louis L'Amour western.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (xPl2J)

46 Fifty Shades of Gray

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (NWiLs)

47 The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky

Posted by: Cascadia at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (OFAdG)

48 Any of the "For Dummies" books.

And the complete collection of Calvin and Hobbs cartoons. (4 books in the set.)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2018 02:33 PM (iiixZ)

49 While this is certainly not a bad idea, but for probably half the population of this country (especially the younger, already brainwashed crowd), they have neither the time, inclination nor intellect to wade through all those books. A pity, really...
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (oiwwc)


Anthem, then. It's about 100 pages.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 16, 2018 02:33 PM (y87Qq)

50 While this is certainly not a bad idea, but for probably half the population of this country (especially the younger, already brainwashed crowd), they have neither the time, inclination nor intellect to wade through all those books. A pity, really...
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (oiwwc)

Might as well tell them to read something in it's original Greek or Latin.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 02:33 PM (NFEMn)

51 Of Mice and Men
The Old Man and the Sea
Frankenstein
Dracula

Posted by: jmel at September 16, 2018 02:33 PM (OeWgo)

52 Camp of the Saints

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 16, 2018 02:33 PM (IqV8l)

53 Patriots (AJ Langguth)

Posted by: notofthebody at September 16, 2018 02:34 PM (+qKeD)

54 There was a really good broadcast about the Constitution on Sirius Radio Classics. I think the author was Norman Corwin. Hollywood notables of the day dramatized the events and conditions that resulted in our Constitution. Very effective way to communicate the history to LIVs or anyone else. They used to air it July 4.

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 02:34 PM (VyOxI)

55 You gotta read at least one Louis L'Amour western.


Posted by: Mark1971 at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (xPl2J)


The Daybreakers

Posted by: Bert G at September 16, 2018 02:34 PM (OMsf+)

56 +1 on The Road to Serfdom

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 02:34 PM (NWiLs)

57 Camp of the Saints
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Receives the Mike Hammer Stamp of Approval.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:35 PM (Et1Ic)

58 Plato was kind of a self-important twat.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 02:35 PM (NWiLs)

59 Kudos on Huck Finn, the first great American novel.

I read it aloud to my kid brother when he seven or eight. And yes I used the n word, with an explanation.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 02:36 PM (1UZdv)

60 Fifty Shades of Gray
Posted by: Insomniac
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Pfft. The Bridges of Madison County

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:36 PM (Et1Ic)

61 42 While this is certainly not a bad idea, but for probably half the population of this country (especially the younger, already brainwashed crowd), they have neither the time, inclination nor intellect to wade through all those books. A pity, really...
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (oiwwc)

+++

Yeah, who is doin' the readin' here? The same and usual suspects who have always been inclined to read in the first place. Or is this a fantasy quest, that everyone of the population will dig in?

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 02:36 PM (dI3/S)

62 Bastiat's The Law

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 02:36 PM (NWiLs)

63 Two male dancers got fired from the New York City Ballet for passing around explicit photos of women.

As Jay Leno might say, "I'm shocked! There are straight male ballet dancers?"

Posted by: Pete in TX at September 16, 2018 02:36 PM (2RBkF)

64 No; Nobody should have "Fifty Shades of Rape/Bondage fantasy" on theirreading list. I haven't yet found anyone I knew who admitted to reading it. I'm afraid that my opinion of them would immediately take a nose dive.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:36 PM (AllCR)

65 Endurance, Shackelton's south pole misadventure

Posted by: Ama at September 16, 2018 02:36 PM (dPhJk)

66 Plato was kind of a self-important twat.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 02:35 PM (NWiLs)


Yeah but his convex polyhedra? Solid.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 16, 2018 02:37 PM (y87Qq)

67 The Story of Civilization by Will and Ariel Durant

If you can get through all that (it's about a dozen volumes) you can get through anything.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at September 16, 2018 02:38 PM (oiwwc)

68 Two book threads in one day!!!

I dunno. All this prescriptive list stuff feels like vegetables, you should read it because it's good for you.

I did just finish Huck Finn again this week, so that's a bully suggestion. I think I'll read it ever five or ten years.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 02:38 PM (fuK7c)

69 OT

1. Kavanaugh's accuser is now on the record: Her name is Christine Blasey Ford

2. Ford has offered a detailed account of sexual assault by Kavanaugh

3. Ford's account corroborated by therapists notes from 2012

4. Ford passed a polygraph test by former FBI agent

Woman is a Registered Democrat and a professor and the polygraph was administered by a former FBI agent who now works for a law firm who works for the DNC

From Conservative Treehouse

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:38 PM (AllCR)

70 Endurance, Shackelton's south pole misadventure
Posted by: Ama
---------------

Ditto Franklin's Northwest Passage account. Oh, wait...no survivors.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:39 PM (Et1Ic)

71
If there was one thing Ayn Rand understood, nobody wants to read boring books by educators and pundits on politics and ideology so she went with a fictional narrative. That said there's probably not that many people who finished Atlas Shrugged, it gets a bit boring and high handed itself.

Personally I'd rather read David McCullough type Bios/Novels. Just finished The Wright Brothers, good read.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 16, 2018 02:39 PM (ye3s4)

72 64
No; Nobody should have "Fifty Shades of Rape/Bondage fantasy" on
theirreading list. I haven't yet found anyone I knew who admitted to
reading it. I'm afraid that my opinion of them would immediately take a
nose dive.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:36 PM (AllCR)
---
Strongly disagree. While I have no interest in reading the stuff, I definitely appreciated the secondary effects of my wife reading it. IYKWIM.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:40 PM (B/PO4)

73 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:36 PM (AllCR)

Lighten up, Francois. It was a joke.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 02:40 PM (NWiLs)

74 47. I remember when my aunt's Italian beau came to visit he brought gifts for her family. I eagerly anticipated some fine leather goods, instead he gave me a copy of the Bros. Karamazov! Wtf gives that to a teenage girl? I tried reading it but gave up after a dozen pages.

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 02:40 PM (VyOxI)

75 Applied Ballistics for Long Range Shooting by Brian Litz.

Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 02:40 PM (MVjcR)

76 Moby Dick. Because life is full of pain.

Posted by: pep at September 16, 2018 02:17 PM (T6t7i)

Penicillin will clear that right up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2018 02:41 PM (iwUO9)

77 Might 2nd Fahrenheit 451 and add Animal Farm

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2018 02:42 PM (T4oHT)

78 Tolkien is a great gateway drug to moral reality, btw. Lord of the Rings is deeper than most people think. Heck, I read it almost every year since I was a teenager but it was only when I entered the Church that I got the deeper aspects of it.

Also good: "The Loved One," by Evelyn Waugh. Hollywood as it always was.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:42 PM (B/PO4)

79 Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 02:40 PM (NWiLs)

Yes, I realize that. I didn't know one couldn't give a serious opinion about a joke of a book.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:42 PM (AllCR)

80 I would consider two books.

Robert Penn Warren's All the King's Men is a far better book than either movie. It's part mystery, part a story of political corruption, it's ultimately a story of morality and personal responsibility.

Radical Son by David Horowitz is his growing from a red diaper doper baby to his realization through his association with the Black Panthers that the revolution is never going to come and the left is thoroughly corrupt.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at September 16, 2018 02:42 PM (+y/Ru)

81 No; Nobody should have "Fifty Shades of Rape/Bondage fantasy" on theirreading list. I haven't yet found anyone I knew who admitted to reading it. I'm afraid that my opinion of them would immediately take a nose dive.



Now, that's not fair, Fen. There was a time when every woman in America was reading it.

I tried to read it to try to understand how women think. That part didn't work. I did get 49 pages into it, which is how long it takes to get to the first sex scene, and then I tossed it.

The sex scene was utterly unremarkable. She shattered into a million pieces upon each orgasm.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 02:42 PM (fuK7c)

82 Applied Ballistics for Long Range Shooting by Brian Litz.
Posted by: Weasel
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'The Rifle Book', by Jack O'Connor.

A classic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:42 PM (Et1Ic)

83 Hm. Tough choice between:

Red Sox Century: The Definitive History of Baseball's Most Storied Franchise,

and

Red Sox Nation: The Rich and Colorful History of the Boston Red Sox

Posted by: Alex Cora at September 16, 2018 02:43 PM (VpTMN)

84 There's a Readers Digest condensed version of The Road to Serfdom which you can find online, including here: https://tinyurl.com/zmw59zf

This went out in 1945 and was read by millions of Americans. Hayek is an academic and his original prose can be a slog, so I recommend this version.

Reagan was a closet intellectual and a fan of Hayek

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 02:43 PM (1UZdv)

85 Basic Economics , Thomas Sowell
Modern Times, Paul Johnson
A Patriots History of the United States, Schweikart and Allen

Posted by: alan w at September 16, 2018 02:43 PM (YLzLe)

86 77 Might 2nd Fahrenheit 451 and add Animal Farm
Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2018 02:42 PM (T4oHT)

1984
Gulag Archipelago

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 02:43 PM (NWiLs)

87 "The Sketch Book" by Washington Irving
"The House of the Seven Gables" by Nathaniel Hawthorne
"The Frontiersman" by William C. Eckert
"A Wilderness So Immense" by Stephen Ambrose
"Silver John the Ballad Singer" by Manly Wade Wellman
"Roughing It" by Mark Twain
"Valiant Ambition" by Nathaniel Philbrick
"Shiloh" by Shelby Foote

Posted by: exdem13 at September 16, 2018 02:43 PM (Jywc3)

88 Angel in the Whirlwind. American revolution. Enjoyable history.

History of Russia and the Russians. Dense dry read. irreplaceble.

Non-fiction American frontier:
Lewis and Clark unabridged daily journals.







Posted by: 13times at September 16, 2018 02:44 PM (K3B2k)

89 Early 20th century Harvard Classics series.

Posted by: timbo at September 16, 2018 02:44 PM (imHLA)

90 I'll rephase. People can read anything they like, of course, but it hardly belongs on a list of 100 books people should read to be considered culturally literate and YES I know IS was making a joke. Haha.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:44 PM (AllCR)

91 A Rabble in Arms

Kenneth L Roberts.

Yes it's a historical novel. Not only is it good reading but it gives a glimpse into the Revolutionary war during the Northern invasion by British General Burgoyne.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 16, 2018 02:44 PM (TP072)

92 Anyone brought up Animal Farm yet? Required reading in my high school.
Or at least it was...

We also read Heart of Darkness and got to watch Apocalypse Now afterwards for literary comparison.

Those were the days!

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:45 PM (B/PO4)

93 The era of the book is over.

I'm not saying this happily, just reporting the situation as I see it.

Moving forward, I predict that in the very near future the vast majority of people will never read ANY book of any kind, ever. People will read, of course, but not book-length material.

Books as a concept lasted from about 1500 to about, I'd say at an outer limit, 2050. Beyond that, they will merely be an esoteric niche artifact, owned by only a small subset of the population.

With that depressing introduction, the one book I'd really recommend for people to read is The Blank Slate, by Steven Pinker. It's not about "Western philosophy and American Exceptionalism," but instead deconstructs the fundamental flaws undermining basically all leftist and "progressive" thought. This one book will vaccinate the mind of anyone who reads it against the ruinous assumptions that lead to all the wrong philosophies in the modern western world.

Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2018 02:45 PM (c+2jX)

94
69OT "1. Kavanaugh's accuser is now on the record: Her name is Christine Blasey For"
As if this wasn't set up by DNC ops. Feinstein drops it after the Committee Hearings are over, plays hero by keeping her name out of it, the Democrats call for a postponement till we know more and today she bravely come forward trying to force Grassley's hand.
Grassley needs to ignore it.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 16, 2018 02:45 PM (ye3s4)

95 Disagreeing with Pep--we're not actually talking about an "average people" reading list. This is for the top quartile.

The Bible
Plato's Republic
The Iliad
The Odyssey
Hamlet
Othello
Romeo and Juliet
Julius Caesar
Much Ado About Nothing
Henry IV (Parts 1 and 2)
The Leviathan
On Government
The Wealth of Nations
The Federalist Papers
On Liberty
Moby Dick
Uncle Tom's Cabin
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer
Huckleberry Finn
Shelby Foote's The Civil War
The Influence of Sea Power upon History
A History of the English Speaking Peoples
The Communist Manifesto
Mein Kampf
The Koran (hoping I get an ISWYDT)
The Guns of August
The Second World War
The Best and the Brightest
Capitalism and Freedom
On Nuclear War
The Conscience of a Conservative
Kissinger: The White House Years
The Shining
Salem's Lot
The Godfather
Helter Skelter
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Give War a Chance
Righteous Indignation: Excuse Me While I Save the World




Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 16, 2018 02:45 PM (1T8y6)

96 By golly, the horde is a well-read bunch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:45 PM (Et1Ic)

97 Responsibility and Judgement, Hanna Arendt

Posted by: Winsomedove at September 16, 2018 02:45 PM (tNtUz)

98

We already talked about books today.

Stupid books.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 02:46 PM (SFIp6)

99 J.R.R.Tolkien for damn sure

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2018 02:46 PM (T4oHT)

100 Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 02:42 PM (fuK7c)

And NO, not every woman in America. I didn't read it. people who buy the dreck which sometimes appears on the NYT list of top books aren't every woman in America

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:46 PM (AllCR)

101 "Roughing It" by Mark Twain


I just read that, too. I'm on a Twain binge.

It's a mess, it's a mish-mash. There's autobiography, there's tall tales, there's flat out lies, newspaper writing, and travelogue all mixed together.

Glad I read it but I wouldn't put it on anyone's to do list.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 02:46 PM (fuK7c)

102 Culture (one or more):

Albion's Seed, Fischer (as per Taro T. above)
The Nine Nations of North America, Joel Garreau
American Nations, Colin Woodard
Cultural Regions of the United States, Raymond Gastil
The Shaping of America, D.W. Meinig (4 vol)
Regions Apart, E. Grabb and J. Curtis

Posted by: RioBravo at September 16, 2018 02:46 PM (iQKgg)

103

Someone recommended to me "The Cops Are Robbers," it's about corrupt police.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 02:46 PM (SFIp6)

104 Did anyone include Gibbon? Not that I've finished...

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:47 PM (B/PO4)

105 A Patriots History of the United States, Schweikart and Allen
Posted by: alan w at September 16, 2018 02:43 PM (YLzLe)
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I used that for American History for my kids in high school.

I also have their two-volume Patriot's History of the Modern World for 20th Century.

Posted by: bluebell at September 16, 2018 02:47 PM (C1PQi)

106

Lonesome Dove

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at September 16, 2018 02:47 PM (sxl80)

107

*peruses 95, slinks away*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:47 PM (Et1Ic)

108 Always wanted to read Grant's biography.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 16, 2018 02:47 PM (IROzs)

109 Autobiography, I mean.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 16, 2018 02:47 PM (IROzs)

110 Greetings:

The Progressive (née Public) Broadcasting System has been hyping a program called "The Great American Read" which I have, so far, managed to avoid.

My guess would be that both have a significant bent in a certain direction.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 16, 2018 02:48 PM (evgyj)

111 Posted by: lowandslow at September 16, 2018 02:45 PM (ye3s4)

She did recall the name in 2102 during a therapy session and husband felt that someday he might be nominated to the Supreme Court !!! and needed to be stopped.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:48 PM (AllCR)

112 With the Okd Breed by EB Sledge

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at September 16, 2018 02:48 PM (sxl80)

113 The Igno-Daughter and her friends would read aloud random pages from Fifty Shades. "It's some funny shit!"

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 02:48 PM (1UZdv)

114 Wait, I see Stephen King but no Lovecraft? That's just wrong.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:48 PM (B/PO4)

115 Agree with everyone on the Sowell and Hanson books, and Chesterton. For Hanson, I'd say The Soul of Battle, as it outlines the best of what Democracy can mean in war. Marches of a season destroying institutional slavery both physically and culturally.

I would add Peter Schweizer's Extortion. It helps to know how your legislature works.

For biography, The Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, for the effects of dependency on a populace.

For fiction, I agree with the recommendations of Louis L'Amour. Specifically, I'd recommend The Comstock Lode. "Any medicine-show man can spout words, if they are written for him. It takes no genius to sound well. To act right and at the right time is something else again."

I'd add Animal Farm. Understanding the ending is critical to any functioning democracy.

Several months ago I started a Goodreads bookshelf for books I consider a civic necessity. Link in nic.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 16, 2018 02:49 PM (2lndx)

116 I like Circa's list post 95

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:49 PM (AllCR)

117 If we're talking Ayn Rand, her one absolutely essential book is Anthem. I read it in seventh grade and it permanently aligned me against anti-individualistic totalitarianism (a.k.a. communism) forever. I think if Anthem was required reading in schools, there; be a lot less leftist stupidity among the youth.

Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2018 02:49 PM (c+2jX)

118 Always wanted to read Grant's biography.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
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Whiskey, followed by whiskey...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:49 PM (Et1Ic)

119 4. Ford passed a polygraph test by former FBI agent

Woman is a Registered Democrat and a professor and the polygraph was administered by a former FBI agent who now works for a law firm who works for the DNC

From Conservative Treehouse

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:38 PM (AllCR)

Polygraph means zero, zilch, nada. People who have fanstastic ideation will "pass" a poly test because it's what they believe, dammit! And accomplished liars can "train" to beat a polygraph test.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2018 02:50 PM (iwUO9)

120 The Cowardly Cuntobiography of Christine Blasey.

In retrospect, I'm glad I treated the girls I fucked/almost fucked in college and pre-marriage like the hoodrats that they were/are.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 16, 2018 02:50 PM (IROzs)

121 108
Always wanted to read Grant's biography.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 16, 2018 02:47 PM (IROzs)
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It's a pretty good read and written very honestly. He was in a race against death and wrote with great candor. One of the better Civil War memoirs.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:50 PM (B/PO4)

122 Read about Col. Jeff Cooper in Rolf Nelson's book. Any reading recommendations regarding Col. Cooper?

Posted by: Dharma Institute at September 16, 2018 02:50 PM (u8R6W)

123 Anything by Laurence tribe or Paul krugman

Posted by: NCKate at September 16, 2018 02:50 PM (Jv60O)

124 Orwell.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 02:50 PM (yQpMk)

125 Always wanted to read Grant's biography.


Available for free on Kindle.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 02:50 PM (fuK7c)

126 The woman who cleaned our offices highly recommended 50 shades of grey. I don't know any other woman who read it but then most of my friends are men.

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 02:51 PM (VyOxI)

127 You can't really make a list that works for everyone.
Unless you know the intelligence of the reader, you cannot make suggestions that will have the desired impact.

Everything on your list, from the Bible to Gibbon, supposes a properly prepared mind and an IQ north of 120. Oh, and English mastery with a vocabulary beyond the Urban Dictionary. Not a big audience.

The beauty of home-schooling is that reading can be tailored to the individual pupils. Start with McGuffey and in 10 or 12 years, a small fraction of your students might reach Gibbon.

Posted by: Uncle Kenny at September 16, 2018 02:51 PM (PRDg/)

128 Always wanted to read Grant's biography.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 16, 2018 02:47 PM (IROzs)
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It's a pretty good read and written very honestly. He was in a race against death and wrote with great candor. One of the better Civil War memoirs.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:50 PM (B/PO4)



and available online for free.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 02:51 PM (yQpMk)

129 "There's a Readers Digest condensed version of The Road to Serfdom which you can find online,,,"

Its amazing how far the Readers Digest has fallen, they also published a condensed version of Whittaker Chamber's Witness. RD is a good example of how most of the publishing industry has been seized by the left for the lazy. Susan Sontag in one of her honest moments said: ''Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Reader's Digest between 1950 and 1970, and someone in the same period who read only The Nation or The New Statesman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?''

Posted by: alan w at September 16, 2018 02:52 PM (YLzLe)

130 Speaking of books, the Democrats need a new playbook, huh?
But now it's out there, so everyone will revert to type and play the roles that have been assigned to them.

The Democrats will go into High Dudgeon and Righteous Indignation Mode,
The Media will amplify this
Scared Republicans will wobble. But whether they topple or not, will depend on Grassley and Kavanaugh himself.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 02:52 PM (NFEMn)

131 Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 02:51 PM (VyOxI)

Most of my friends are women-church woman and pastors. Now while they could lie about it I don't think they were lying when they said they had no interest in reading it and hadn't read it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:53 PM (AllCR)

132 "Shane"
"Hondo"
"Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" (the formula used by the Nazi's in order to gain power is the playbook being used by the left today)

"Harrison Bergeron" is a short story, but should be required reading.

"1984"

I could probably keep going, but these spring to mind.

Though, if I were going to recommend just one book, it would be the Bible.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at September 16, 2018 02:53 PM (WEBkv)

133 Speaking of books, the Democrats need a new playbook, huh?

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Not until it consistently fails...

Posted by: RioBravo at September 16, 2018 02:53 PM (iQKgg)

134 119. also look who set up the test...friend of Strozk?

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 02:53 PM (VyOxI)

135 I'm trying to think of single volume non-fiction general readers for topics; the American frontier, global navigators like Magellan, Cook, Drake; 20th century Europe, America, middle and far east and kinda failing at that. Vikings and the English. Trying to describe the Roman Empire in less than 800 pages? World War I and II?



Posted by: 13times at September 16, 2018 02:53 PM (K3B2k)

136 By golly, the horde is a well-read bunch.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 02:45 PM (Et1Ic)


*scribbles Spillane's Mike Hammer Basically Just Gut-Punches Everybody There Is onto the list*

Posted by: hogmartin at September 16, 2018 02:53 PM (y87Qq)

137 A good book that's been drowned by sequels is "The Killer Angel." Just read that one and ignore the rest.

It brought Getttysburg alive to me like nothing else.

Also, anything by Bruce Catton. His Centennial History of the Civil War (three volume) is amazing, pretty much set the tone for everything that followed. The first book "The Coming Fury" is a deep look at how things broke down in 1860.

Must-read for those who think we are in Civil War II.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:53 PM (B/PO4)

138 45 You gotta read at least one Louis L'Amour western.
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Almost too many of his novels and short bits to name!

"Profiles in Courage", allegedly by JFK
"Time Safari" by L. Sprague de Camp
"The Sun Also Rises" by Ernest Hemingway
"The Bear" by William Faulkner
"Falkenberg's Legion" and its sequels by Jerry Pournelle
"A Streetcar Named Desire" by Tennessee Williams
"I, the Jury" by Mickey Spillane
"Patriots" and "Redliners" by David Drake

Posted by: exdem13 at September 16, 2018 02:54 PM (Jywc3)

139 Biguns

Posted by: Al Bundy at September 16, 2018 02:54 PM (2cuLk)

140
Allen Drury: Advise and Consent
James Gould Cozzens: The Just and the Unjust
James McPherson: Battle Cry of Freedom
Robert Caro: The Power Broker

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 02:54 PM (LsBY9)

141
Books as a concept lasted from about 1500 to about, I'd say at an outer limit, 2050.

Next up: talking rings

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 16, 2018 02:54 PM (IqV8l)

142 Ford's account corroborated by therapists notes from 2012



and there it is. A nut case.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 02:54 PM (yQpMk)

143
Everything on your list, from the Bible to Gibbon, supposes a properly prepared mind and an IQ north of 120. Oh, and English mastery with a vocabulary beyond the Urban Dictionary. Not a big audience.
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I understand your point, but reading The Bible, or even Gibbon-- with some of his antiquated terms--hardly requires an IQ of 120.
If it does, then I've been selling myself short all these years....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 02:55 PM (NFEMn)

144 Those holding "She's Crazy" tickets collect your winnings at the window.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 02:55 PM (yQpMk)

145 126 The woman who cleaned our offices highly recommended 50 shades of grey. I don't know any other woman who read it but then most of my friends are men.
Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 02:51 PM (VyOxI)

As has been noted before, if it took place in a trailer park instead of a hi-rise, FSOG would've been an episode of Criminal Minds.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 02:56 PM (NWiLs)

146 Pretty much anything by C.S. Lewis but especially Mere Christianity.

Posted by: Average Jen at September 16, 2018 02:56 PM (KLk9u)

147 The Igno-Daughter and her friends would read aloud random pages from Fifty Shades. "It's some funny shit!"

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There used to be a website that threw out random quotes from Gibbons' The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire as sort of a more advanced Magic 8 Ball. Maybe you could do the same with Fifty Shades.

"Should I go to the mall with Buffy and Skip or do my homework?"

"Then he tied her to the bed and brought out the whip."

"I'm never leaving the house again!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at September 16, 2018 02:57 PM (+y/Ru)

148 To be fair, here's one for the NY Yankee fans:

The New York Yankees Illustrated History

(Oh wait - Do picture books count?)

Posted by: Alex Cora at September 16, 2018 02:57 PM (VpTMN)

149 Since someone else brought it up-

We know you can lie and still pass a polygraph.

But can't you also lie about administering one?

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:57 PM (B/PO4)

150 Those holding "She's Crazy" tickets collect your winnings at the window.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 02:55 PM (yQpMk)

Ah, but because she's a "professor" and a liberal Democrat , she must be believed--or else.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 02:57 PM (NFEMn)

151 Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2018 02:45 PM (c+2jX)

My son is reading that right now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:57 PM (AllCR)

152 146
Pretty much anything by C.S. Lewis but especially Mere Christianity.

Posted by: Average Jen at September 16, 2018 02:56 PM (KLk9u)

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The Screwtape Letters. Re-read them a couple of weeks ago. Spot on about everything happening.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:58 PM (B/PO4)

153 Anything by Laurence tribe or Paul krugman
Posted by: NCKate
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'Dreams of My Father'. Brilliant insights and recollections.

Posted by: Composite Girl Friend at September 16, 2018 02:59 PM (Et1Ic)

154 (Oh wait - Do picture books count?)


Can Yankees fans read picture books?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 02:59 PM (fuK7c)

155 117 If we're talking Ayn Rand, her one absolutely essential book is Anthem. I read it in seventh grade and it permanently aligned me against anti-individualistic totalitarianism (a.k.a. communism) forever. I think if Anthem was required reading in schools, there; be a lot less leftist stupidity among the youth.
Posted by: zombie at September 16, 2018 02:49 PM (c+2jX)

I second this. Out of Rand's works, this is the best, and also most concise. In addition, Whittaker Chambers' Witness is a compelling look at the anti communist fervor of the 50's, and why it was completely justified. Also, the Venona Papers.

Posted by: moki at September 16, 2018 02:59 PM (mFoNl)

156 119. also look who set up the test...friend of Strozk?

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 02:53 PM (VyOxI)

I should have added the qualifier that a trained liar or mental case could defeat a polygraph operated by a competent and honest operator. If the operator is partisan, or venal, then any test is worthless from the git go.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2018 02:59 PM (iwUO9)

157
The Barack Obama reading list:






Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 03:00 PM (LsBY9)

158 You gotta read at least one Louis L'Amour western.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 16, 2018 02:32 PM (xPl2J)


Or all of them as I have...more than once.

Posted by: Traveling Man &&&& at September 16, 2018 03:00 PM (JVddv)

159


Anyone else surprised the fbi is somehow involved in this?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:00 PM (SFIp6)

160 Any list needs to include books about leftism...it's track record of genocide and economic collapse...it's inherent dogmas of dishonesty and hate...it's history of subversion and treason in America

Posted by: Grad School Fool at September 16, 2018 03:00 PM (swEzU)

161 I second the recommend on the historical novel 'the killer angels.' It humanized Gettysburg for me.

Posted by: 13times at September 16, 2018 03:01 PM (K3B2k)

162 The Barack Obama reading list:

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Nah. He probably skimmed Dreams Of My Father once.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2018 03:02 PM (ZX8Kg)

163 One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:02 PM (yQpMk)

164 I missed the thread below but wanted to comment on it. I was in Stockholm when the planes hit on 9-11. I saw or heard nothing like what was described. Not in the business situation I was in at first, and not in public and on public transport afterwards. I saw shock and sympathy - no celebrations.


I'm not calling BS on the author of that essay. I'm just pointing out that my personal experience doesn't support throwing the majority of Swedes under the sleigh.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 16, 2018 03:02 PM (qvdxK)

165 Nah. He probably skimmed Dreams Of My Father once.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2018 03:02 PM (ZX8Kg)

somebody told him his name got mentioned in it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (iwUO9)

166 The first book "The Coming Fury" is a deep look at how things broke down in 1860.
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Same about Churchill's 'The Gathering Storm', first of his 6 volume WWII memoir.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (Et1Ic)

167 95
Disagreeing with Pep--we're not actually talking about an "average people" reading list. This is for the top quartile.


The topic is books EVERYONE should read. My point stands.

Posted by: pep at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (T6t7i)

168 Robert Leckie's "Helmet for my Pillow"

Dwight D. Eisenhower's "Crusade in Europe"

Rick Atkinson's Liberation Trilogy

H.W. Crocker's "Yanks"

Samuel Eliot Morison's "History of US Naval Operations in WWII" series (What? It's ONLY 15 volumes!)

Posted by: DMO at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (AUOno)

169 Kav had to pass how many FBI background checks on his way up the ladder, but somehow this earth shattering incident escaped them? It's another hoax brought to you by the DNC crime family. These people make Carlo Gambino's operation look like a clown car.

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (VyOxI)

170 "Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of Communism? "

I used to say that truck drivers (who listen to Rush while "at work") knew more about the detail of CAGW than Upper West Side readers of The New York Times.

Siberian tree rings for the win!

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (1UZdv)

171 The woman who cleaned our offices highly recommended 50 shades of grey. I don't know any other woman who read it but then most of my friends are men.
Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 02:51 PM (VyOxI)
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I didn't read it either and I don't know anyone who did. Zero interest and frankly it just sounds like utter trash.

Posted by: bluebell at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (C1PQi)

172
Oh shit, there's more. This is bad.

The accuser, Blasey-Ford, had a DNA test done in 2016. She's 0.65% African-American.

So now it's a Hate Crime, too.

This is bad.
#goodbyekavanaugh

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (SFIp6)

173 I'm going to foot-stomp my Bruce Catton recommendation. If you want readable, interesting history, he's the guy.

There's a place for Gibbon, Churchill, etc., but he pioneered the readable, anecdote-fueled style of popular history.

He wrote the text for the American Heritage illustrated Civil War book, btw. I know most people focus on the pictures, but the text is great.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 03:04 PM (B/PO4)

174 Might I suggest Unintended Consequences by John Ross?


+1 for Road to Serfdom, The Camp of the Saints, Atlas Shrugged, and all Sowell recommendations...

Posted by: Slash Buzz at September 16, 2018 03:04 PM (q6wMa)

175 157
The Barack Obama reading list:






Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 03:00 PM (LsBY9)

+++

What a showboating farce the man was and continues to be.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:04 PM (dI3/S)

176 I'd also add To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth by Jeff Cooper.

Posted by: Bert G at September 16, 2018 03:04 PM (OMsf+)

177 I'm not calling BS on the author of that essay. I'm just pointing out that my personal experience doesn't support throwing the majority of Swedes under the sleigh.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 16, 2018 03:02 PM (qvdxK)

The author went to some length to describe how she belonged to a circle of young Leftists, so not ordinary Swedes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2018 03:04 PM (iwUO9)

178 I'm not calling BS on the author of that essay. I'm
just pointing out that my personal experience doesn't support throwing
the majority of Swedes under the sleigh.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 16, 2018 03:02 PM (qvdxK)

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I think the Swedes are doing a fine job of throwing themselves under it.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 03:05 PM (B/PO4)

179

"Republicans Pounce On Kavanaugh Accuser"

....just like Kavanaugh did.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:05 PM (SFIp6)

180 This is bad.

#goodbyekavanaugh

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (SFIp6)

My guess is this has less to do with derailing the nomination than it does giving cover to vulnerable Senate Dems to vote against and, as always, to taint the Repulican forever as they did Thomas.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:06 PM (rnXGe)

181 Kavanaugh may not have a claim of libel under NYT vs Sullivan but, his friend certainly does.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:06 PM (yQpMk)

182 The Barack Obama reading list:

Posted by: Hadrian
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Which would explain why his 'Library' will contain NO books.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:06 PM (Et1Ic)

183 Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 03:03 PM (VyOxI)

And supposedly they passed on investigation but the person who now supposedly gave a polygraph test is a former FBI agent.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:07 PM (AllCR)

184 One or more of the following:

On the Origin of Species..., Charles Darwin
The Eight Wilderness Discovery Books (collection), John Muir
Wilderness Warrior, Douglas Brinkley
Rightful Heritage, Douglas Brinkley
The Quiet World, Douglas Brinkley

Posted by: RioBravo at September 16, 2018 03:07 PM (iQKgg)

185 Which would explain why his 'Library' will contain NO books.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:06 PM (Et1Ic)
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I still can't wrap my head around that.

Posted by: bluebell at September 16, 2018 03:07 PM (C1PQi)

186 Which would explain why his 'Library' will contain NO books.

It will have misspelled NCAA brackets though.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:07 PM (yQpMk)

187 1) Brave New World. As a book wrriten in the early 20th century, its relevance to our times is shocking. Market it as anti-consumerist to agnostic lefties, because it's that too.

2) Nassim Taleb's Skin in the Game. Want to know why we are constantly ruled by idiots? This book can help explain it. Something everyone can enjoy from the 21st century's most underrated personality.

3) Starship Troopers. As one of sci-fi's true progenitors, this book has it all, from a realistic look into a global military dictatorship to the mindset of realistic Space Marines before they were called that. Will be remembered long after Jemison is widely dismissed as the apex of affirmative action culture.

4) The Screwtape Letters. Devils exist, of that I am sure, and CS Lewis must have mightily enjoyed putting them to mockery, almost as much as the blithe leftie atheists the book puts pins into. A classic and definitely worth opening your mind to.

I like many of the books above, but quite a few are wholly inaccessible even to modern intellectuals. Besides, I find timeless truths are going to carry long after archaic ideologies have died out. The Constitution is wholly inadequate to govern a people without firm morality and the Christian religion, so a newer thesis must be devised.

Posted by: trev006 at September 16, 2018 03:07 PM (U/EEq)

188 And supposedly they passed on investigation but the person who now supposedly gave a polygraph test is a former FBI agent.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:07 PM (AllCR)

"Former", as in "fired"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2018 03:08 PM (iwUO9)

189

The worst part of her "assault," the victim says, according to the notes of her therapist, is the party was playing the song "St Elmo's Fire" so now everytime she hears that song, or sees Jamie Gertz or Emilio Estevez, she has a seizure.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:08 PM (SFIp6)

190 Agree on Killer Angels. What it describes wonderfully is that Gettysburg wasn't planned for. As the armies began to meet, lowly commanders at the front went all in because they saw the need to control the high ground. The North held the high ground, moral and otherwise.

And college professor turned general, Joshua Chamberlain is the big hero, and one of the most remarkable soldiers in American history,

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:09 PM (1UZdv)

191 Since when are notes from the rapist admissible?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:09 PM (yQpMk)

192 Kavanaugh was born in 1965 so he was 15 when this happened.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:10 PM (rnXGe)

193 3) Starship Troopers. As one of sci-fi's true progenitors, this book has it all, from a realistic look into a global military dictatorship to the mindset of realistic Space Marines before they were called that. Will be remembered long after Jemison is widely dismissed as the apex of affirmative action culture.

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Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War" is a good follow-up.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at September 16, 2018 03:10 PM (WEBkv)

194 Allegedly happened.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:10 PM (yQpMk)

195 Sorry, guys for taking the thread OT.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:10 PM (AllCR)

196 I still can't wrap my head around that.
Posted by: bluebell
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Which is a good thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (Et1Ic)

197 171. When cleaning lady INSISTED I read it, I had to stifle laughter. I guess there's a lot of frustrated women out there.

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (VyOxI)

198 191 Since when are notes from the rapist admissible?
Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:09 PM (yQpMk)

+++

On the same day that lawyer/client confidentiality walked out the door.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (dI3/S)

199 The worst part of her "assault," the victim says,
according to the notes of her therapist, is the party was playing the
song "St Elmo's Fire" so now everytime she hears that song, or sees
Jamie Gertz or Emilio Estevez, she has a seizure.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:08 PM (SFIp6)

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Seriously? Because St. Elmo's fire came out in 1985. When was the alleged assault again?

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (B/PO4)

200 Greetings:

I read the recent Grant biography not too long ago and one of the things that struck a cord with me was the author's appreciation of President Grant's efforts in regard to protecting and advancing the freed slaves.

I don't think that I have ever heard any Negro- American leaders express any appreciation of those efforts.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (evgyj)

201 For his pure mastery of the English language, anything by Joseph Conrad, although I particularly like Typhoon and Other Stories as a collection.

I often see glimpses of Conrad's brilliant style in CBD's Food Thread.

Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (MVjcR)

202 The Constitution is wholly inadequate to govern a
people without firm morality and the Christian religion, so a newer
thesis must be devised
.



Posted by: trev006


No need. Dictatorship has always been with us.

Posted by: pep at September 16, 2018 03:12 PM (T6t7i)

203 Since when are notes from the rapist admissible?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:09 PM (yQpMk)



+++



On the same day that lawyer/client confidentiality walked out the door.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (dI3/S)


HIPAA laws for thee but not for the Ds.

Posted by: Bert G at September 16, 2018 03:12 PM (OMsf+)

204 Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (VyOxI)

If I were frustrated I'm sure i could find something more pleasantly erotic that a book about a naive bimbo and her controlling nutty Boyfriend.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:13 PM (AllCR)

205
Therapist notes reveal she had to block out the entire '80's decade from her memory because she had nightmares that Brett Kavanaugh and Ronald Reagan and Don Johnson (Miami Vice) were locking her in a closet.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:13 PM (SFIp6)

206 Sorry, guys for taking the thread OT.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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OT? We could write a book here, '50 Shades of OT'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:13 PM (Et1Ic)

207 201
For his pure mastery of the English language, anything by Joseph Conrad,
although I particularly like Typhoon and Other Stories as a collection.



I often see glimpses of Conrad's brilliant style in CBD's Food Thread.

Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (MVjcR)

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I am a yuuuge Conrad fan. Youth: A Narrative is great, Typhoon is brilliant, and a dark take is The End of the Tether.

The man understood the sea and its impact on men.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 03:13 PM (B/PO4)

208 188 And supposedly they passed on investigation but the person who now supposedly gave a polygraph test is a former FBI agent.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:07 PM (AllCR)

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"FBI Agent." Wow. Thats the Gold Standard of credibility, right?

I crack myself up sometimes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2018 03:14 PM (ZX8Kg)

209 I know "Atlas Shrugged" is mentioned, but, "The Fountainhead" is superb in that Rand describes MSM to a "T" in the form of Gail Wynand and "The New York Banner."

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at September 16, 2018 03:14 PM (WEBkv)

210 I'm glad that someone listed Salem's Lot. I'm no fan of Stephen King's politics, but that was a very well written book. Same with Anne Rice's Interview With a Vampire.
Also, Henry James' Turn of the Screw, although it takes some getting used to because the sentences are exhaustingly long.

WTF is it with the spell check? It red underlined "exhaustingly!"

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 16, 2018 03:14 PM (v1udk)

211 Either Bullfinch or Edith Hamilton's Mythology.

Posted by: freaked at September 16, 2018 03:14 PM (UdKB7)

212 Right now, I'm suppressing the urge to count how many unique titles have been mentioned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:14 PM (Et1Ic)

213
The McCain family just released a statement saying John's last words were #IBelieveHer.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:15 PM (SFIp6)

214 OT? We could write a book here, '50 Shades of OT'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:13 PM (Et1Ic)


I read that as "of the ONT".

Which wouldn't be much of a stretch either.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 16, 2018 03:15 PM (y87Qq)

215 The McCain family just released a statement saying John's last words were #IBelieveHer.

Okay, that was funny.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (v1udk)

216 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:13 PM (Et1Ic)

Well, I usually try to wait until after 100 comments. I didn't then because I'm so PO'ed by the news.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (AllCR)

217

Mitt Romney gave her a haircut, also.

This is bad.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (SFIp6)

218 "FBI Agent." Wow. Thats the Gold Standard of credibility, right?

I crack myself up sometimes.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2018 03:14 PM (ZX8Kg)

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The left now considers the FBI as the zenith of all humanity.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (dI3/S)

219 Neat how the allegations against Keith Ellison have been so quickly forgotten.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (rnXGe)

220 according to the notes of her therapist, is the party was playing the song "St Elmo's Fire" so now everytime she hears that song, or sees Jamie Gertz or Emilio Estevez, she has a seizure.

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And don't ever show her a red solo cup.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (ZX8Kg)

221 Okay, that was funny.

Yes, it was Thx, soothsayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (AllCR)

222 I was reading that the Norse myth Ragnarok was a battle at the end of the world ... between humans and ice giants and demons. And that humans were going to lose this battle, but their responsibility was to fight fiercely down to the last man.

That was probably my biggest moral lesson about The Lord of the Rings was that obligation.

Tolkein despised Wagner ... which I found strange since the story of Turin, and most of the Silmarillion was crushingly grim and hard.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 16, 2018 03:17 PM (rnAwa)

223 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 02:53 PM (B/PO4)

Are we in a similar situation to 1860?

Posted by: clutch at September 16, 2018 03:17 PM (kiSdp)

224
Well, I usually try to wait until after 100 comments. I didn't then because I'm so PO'ed by the news.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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As difficult as it is, just remember that the workers of iniquity are being set up for a fall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:18 PM (Et1Ic)

225
Remember: No One Believes Any of this Bullshit.

This is only for Republicans' benefit -- to spook the Cucks.


Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:18 PM (SFIp6)

226 219 Neat how the allegations against Keith Ellison have been so quickly forgotten.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (rnXGe)

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The interest in the Chinese driver, who happens to be a spy, and drove Sen. Feinstein around for twenty effing years, seems to be over, also.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:19 PM (dI3/S)

227 I am a yuuuge Conrad fan. Youth: A Narrative is great, Typhoon is brilliant, and a dark take is The End of the Tether.

The man understood the sea and its impact on men.



There's lots of Conrad free on Kindle. I've read Heart o' Darkness and downloaded Typhoon.

Where would you go next?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 03:19 PM (fuK7c)

228 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:18 PM (Et1Ic)

Eventually,

I just think he's a good and decent man who does wants to serve and now he has to go through hell.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:19 PM (AllCR)

229 Are we in a similar situation to 1860?
Posted by: clutch
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Are there Citadel cadets charging cannon at Battery Park in Charleston? That would be an early sign.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:20 PM (Et1Ic)

230 Any book of essays by the British doctor Theodore Darymple will appeal to you if you can't get enough Thomas Sowell.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 16, 2018 03:20 PM (rnAwa)

231 226 219 Neat how the allegations against Keith Ellison have been so quickly forgotten.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (rnXGe)

+++

The interest in the Chinese driver, who happens to be a spy, and drove Sen. Feinstein around for twenty effing years, seems to be over, also.
Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:19 PM (dI3/S)

Which also makes one wonder if Feinstein is a Chinese asset.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 03:20 PM (NWiLs)

232 Neat how the allegations against Keith Ellison have been so quickly forgotten.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:16 PM (rnXGe)

+++

The interest in the Chinese driver, who happens to be a spy, and drove Sen. Feinstein around for twenty effing years, seems to be over, also.
Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:19 PM (dI3/S)

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These stories don't advance the agenda.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2018 03:20 PM (ZX8Kg)

233 If they ever released my therapist's notes, you'd all know who the shooter on the grassy knoll was, where Jimmy Hoffa is buried, and why the the Hershel Walker trade between the Cowboys and the Vikings was a Chilean conspiracy to corner the garbanzo bean market.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 16, 2018 03:20 PM (OBcoN)

234 I've never read any books by Dalrymple. Always enjoyed his essays.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:20 PM (AllCR)

235 193 3) Starship Troopers. As one of sci-fi's true progenitors, this book has it all, from a realistic look into a global military dictatorship to the mindset of realistic Space Marines before they were called that. Will be remembered long after Jemison is widely dismissed as the apex of affirmative action culture.

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Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War" is a good follow-up.

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I'm not sure what was meant by a military dictatorship. The human civilization in Starship Troopers was a federal republic, with the franchise being restricted to veterans, i.e., those who have already put their butts on the line.

I second the Forever War. An additional SciFi classic would be Voyage from Yesteryear by James Hogan.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at September 16, 2018 03:21 PM (zPXxR)

236 June, 1986 Penthouse forum, Changed my life.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at September 16, 2018 03:22 PM (0OmEj)

237 The Political Theory of the American Founding-Thomas G. West

Posted by: Muthaucker at September 16, 2018 03:22 PM (tN9hD)

238 Ben Franklin s Autobiography
Churchill's History of the English Speaking people's
Killer Angel's

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2018 03:22 PM (j0Mw7)

239 I understood the topic of this thread to be a general list of books that every American should read ages 10-50.

I could never get through reading the Iliad, moby dick, hated war and peace, hated that turgid repeative Atlas Shrugged and Ayn Rand's cold, antiseptic athiesm. Anthem was okay. I just don't like Ayn Rand. De Tocqueville's democracy in america is a hard civics read

Loved Hemingway's A Farewell to Arms. The sun also rises is like reading about insufferable wastelings. I never quite understood that one.

Read Gibbons Roman empire? Ugh. Churchill's six volume set on WWII is good but Churchill is pretty biased in his retelling.

Posted by: 13times at September 16, 2018 03:22 PM (K3B2k)

240 Yeah, and the IT family that was on Debbie Whatshername's staff,as well as several other dhimms.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 16, 2018 03:22 PM (v1udk)

241 Bible: The Book Of Revelation.

Posted by: 3240 fps at September 16, 2018 03:22 PM (r9UYA)

242 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:06 PM

By giving cover, do you mean an excuse for the Heitkamps, Testers, Mcasskill, etc. to vote no? My opinion is that won't work.

Posted by: clutch at September 16, 2018 03:22 PM (kiSdp)

243 I just think he's a good and decent man who does wants to serve and now he has to go through hell.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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See: Bork, Thomas.

These people care nothing about the well-being of the country, their neighbors, friends, or family. They care only about establishing a single-party totalitarian system. Anything else is secondary.

They are people without honor or integrity.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:23 PM (Et1Ic)

244 Tropical depression update: As of now, though the worst of it is supposed to be through tomorrow morning, it appears that all of the bad stuff is going to miss my area by about 10-15 miles. We just have bad rain and winds, no flooding yet.

Knock wood that continues.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 16, 2018 03:23 PM (dEQP3)

245
So...any displays of racism and anti-Americanism displayed today at the nfl games?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:23 PM (SFIp6)

246 "Scratch Beginnings" - Adam Shepard

You can start with nothing and make it in America, if you work.

Posted by: Eric Lindholm at September 16, 2018 03:23 PM (HkEoS)

247 They are people without honor or integrity.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:23 PM (Et1Ic)

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Having no conscience is a basic qualification for a leadership position in the Dem party.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2018 03:24 PM (ZX8Kg)

248 Everyone should have a solid grounding in WW2, so +1 for the mention above of Morison s History of US Naval Operations in WW2.

If 15 volumes is too long, he summarized it into The Two Ocean War.

Walter Boyne also wrote a good single volume WW2 naval battle summary, called Clash of Titans

Posted by: Slash Buzz at September 16, 2018 03:24 PM (q6wMa)

249 I just think he's a good and decent man who does wants to serve and now he has to go through hell.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:19 PM (AllCR)

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Therein lies the secret saucie of the Democrat playbook: Make the process so odious for conservatives that no one other than committed leftists want to work in government.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at September 16, 2018 03:24 PM (WEBkv)

250 "Hatchet"

Every young boy, and maybe every young girl too, should read Hatchet. So that they keep in mind (at least in the back of their mind) that they are never more than one disaster away from fighting for survival. But also so that they know that, despite the odds, survival is achievable....

Posted by: Castle Guy at September 16, 2018 03:24 PM (Lhaco)

251 sorry to leave such an erudite bunch, but I'm being paged. In closing will predict in 30 years we'll be discussing the bio of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (VyOxI)

252 There's a condensed version of Churchill's WWII memoirs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (1UZdv)

253

They are people without honor or integrity.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


The Left is Shameless & Unaccountable.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (SFIp6)

254 If they ever released my therapist's notes, you'd all know who the shooter on the grassy knoll was, where Jimmy Hoffa is buried, and why the the Hershel Walker trade between the Cowboys and the Vikings was a Chilean conspiracy to corner the garbanzo bean market.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
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In my case, it would be that I have found the cure for cancer, and concealed it. I also know who shot J.R.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (Et1Ic)

255 246 "Scratch Beginnings" - Adam Shepard

You can start with nothing and make it in America, if you work.
Posted by: Eric Lindholm at September 16, 2018 03:23 PM (HkEoS)

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Read it, bought a few copies to give away. Excellent choice.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (WEBkv)

256 If the Kavenaugh slime job is successful, Game on. You won't like us when we are angry.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (0OmEj)

257 Apropos of comments this week, is there any evidence that Jan III Sobieski's charge with the "Winged Hussars" against the Orcs Ottomans at Vienna was the origin of Theoden's Charge at Minas Tirith?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (yQpMk)

258 everything by Raymond Chandler

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (rjbMC)

259

The Left acts with Impunity.

And that is 100% our fault.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (SFIp6)

260 Knock wood that continues.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 16, 2018 03:23 PM (dEQP3)

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Great news! Continued wishes that you and your new little car stay safe and dry from this troubling storm.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (dI3/S)

261 They are people without honor or integrity.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:23 PM (Et1Ic)

But they are dedicated. Fanatically so.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 03:26 PM (NWiLs)

262 Every young boy, and maybe every young girl too, should read Hatchet. So that they keep in mind (at least in the back of their mind) that they are never more than one disaster away from fighting for survival. But also so that they know that, despite the odds, survival is achievable....
Posted by: Castle Guy at September 16, 2018 03:24 PM (Lhaco)


I agree with this sentiment and this recommendation.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 16, 2018 03:26 PM (y87Qq)

263 Red Badge of Courage

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2018 03:26 PM (T4oHT)

264 Even if every word of this woman's story is true, and that's very doubtful since both Kavanaugh and Judge have denied that it happened, it's still stupid.

A drunk teenage boy tried to kiss her and cop a feel at a party several decades ago. And she didn't think it merited filing a police complaint, or telling his parents, or even telling her own parents at the time. In fact, according to her own telling, she didn't mention this alleged assault to anybody until 2012 -- which was 30 years after she says it happened.

But we should keep Kavanaugh, a man with an exemplary record, off the Supreme Court because she remembers feeling scared that he might "inadvertently kill her"? Are you kidding me? A drunken teenage grope has now morphed in her imagination from an attempted rape to an attempted murder.

Beyond ludicrous.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 16, 2018 03:26 PM (fqUgw)

265 Not necessarily a recommendation, but access to useable PDF instructions, rather than incoherent instruction videos

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at September 16, 2018 03:26 PM (3AbHG)

266 There's a condensed version of Churchill's WWII memoirs.
Posted by: Ignoramus
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Heh. "We won, Hitler lost."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:26 PM (Et1Ic)

267 259

The Left acts with Impunity.

And that is 100% our fault.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (SFIp6)

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Absolutely.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:26 PM (dI3/S)

268 Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 16, 2018 03:23 PM (dEQP3)


Thanks for the update; Today in church we prayed for neighbors to the South affected by the storm.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:26 PM (AllCR)

269 Which also makes one wonder if Feinstein is a Chinese asset.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 03:20 PM (NWiLs)

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Especially since she has gotten rich from her husband's doing business in/with China.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 16, 2018 03:27 PM (I16G8)

270 Considering what the Left id doing these days, I'd add two books from George Orwell. Animal Farm of course because some pigs (and Democrats) are more equal than others. And Homage to Catalonia. Orwell got a little bit disillusioned with the Commies who were using the Spanish Civil War to liquidate their enemies.

As for the Iliad, I'd just finished reading Robert Graves's translation of the Iliad. In its own way the book is a hoot.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 16, 2018 03:27 PM (Sda6L)

271 Which also makes one wonder if Feinstein is a Chinese asset.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 03:20 PM (NWiLs)

Worth investigating for sure. That means Repubs won't do it.

Posted by: clutch at September 16, 2018 03:27 PM (kiSdp)

272
But they are dedicated. Fanatically so.
Posted by: Insomniac
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Often the case with the mentally unstable.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:27 PM (Et1Ic)

273 The human civilization in Starship Troopers was a federal republic, with the franchise being restricted to veterans, i.e., those who have already put their butts on the line. 

Posted by: MichiCanuck at September 16, 2018 03:21 PM (zPXxR)

When the franchise is restricted that heavily, and to a small core of people, the common term has been dictatorship, even when there is no individual figure to centralize all power in. The Soviet dictatorships were organized along such lines after Stalin, partly to prevent a repeat of Stalinist excess.

In the Starship Troopers universe, the military does not seek excessive privilege and judges itself at least as harshly as the common people. So it is hardly malevolent. But it isn't even as free as the Founders originally made the American union.

Posted by: trev006 at September 16, 2018 03:28 PM (U/EEq)

274 Looks like Kavanaugh's accuser is listed as a Palo Alto University professor, previously listed as a self-employed psychologist, who donates to the DNC, the DNCC, and Bernie.

https://tinyurl.com/ya4qcuyo

Posted by: Bert G at September 16, 2018 03:28 PM (OMsf+)

275 Kavanaugh can still get shot down. It ain't over till it's over.

The Left clearly has a plan for the next few days. They've got Kav locked in a complete denial. She said she wanted to remain anonymous, and now she's voluntarily taking lie detector tests.

What's next

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:29 PM (1UZdv)

276 There's lots of Conrad free on Kindle. I've read Heart o' Darkness and downloaded Typhoon.



Where would you go next?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 03:19 PM (fuK7c)

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Lol, I have most of his stuff on that fussy old thing we call paper.The Duel.
Not about the sea, utterly brilliant. So good, people thought it was real.

Youth: A Narrative is very good and the, er, N-word of the Narcissus is also quite intriguing. Was the guy sick or faking it, or did he become sick by faking?

I swear, his description of the sky and sea make me want to shade my eyes while reading it. I think I've gotten mild headaches just from imagining the eye strain.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 03:29 PM (B/PO4)

277 It's not a lie if you believe it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:29 PM (yQpMk)

278 Often the case with the mentally unstable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:27 PM (Et1Ic)

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I used to laugh at Michael Savage's characterization of leftism being a mental disease.

Yeah, well, he was right and I was wrong.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at September 16, 2018 03:29 PM (WEBkv)

279 3. Ford's account corroborated by therapists notes from 2012

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:38 PM (AllCR)


2012? 2012??

What was that, 30 years on?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

280 Psychology is a field full of crazy people.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (yQpMk)

281

It's not a lie if you believe it.


"It's not a lie if you pretend to believe it."
-- Shih Tzu

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (SFIp6)

282 Sometimes A Great Notion by Ken Kesey

The dictionary.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (0ogQG)

283 Muldoon's Book of Limericks. Rounds out a classical liberal education.

Posted by: Traveling Man &&&& at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (JVddv)

284 This is bad.


#goodbyekavanaugh



Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:03

Christ Sooth, Kavanaugh is going nowhere.



Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (FTXAT)

285 This is bad.



#goodbyekavanaugh





Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:03

Christ Sooth, Kavanaugh is going nowhere.


Except to SCOTUS.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (FTXAT)

286 >>Especially since she has gotten rich from her husband's doing business in/with China.

Posted by: Calm Mentor

You shut your whore mouth.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (r9UYA)

287 "There's a condensed version of Churchill's WWII memoirs. "

I came. I orated. I conquered.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (1UZdv)

288 275 at best the Leftists will try to turn a few votes over it.

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (T4oHT)

289 Sea of Glory (Nathaniel Philbrick)

Cosmos (Carl Sagan)

The Day the Universe Changed and/or Connections (James Burke)

Posted by: Rusty Bill at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (HBMMh)

290 I do hope that Brett is good and pissed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (yQpMk)

291

...and this is why we lose.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (SFIp6)

292 205
Therapist notes reveal she had to block out the entire '80's decade from her memory because she had nightmares that Brett Kavanaugh and Ronald Reagan and Don Johnson (Miami Vice) were locking her in a closet.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:13 PM (SFIp6)

I am still trying to understand why she go see The Rapist.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (dKiJG)

293 No cookbook? Sad!

Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (MVjcR)

294 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

I don't believe it. I'm just reporting what has been reported.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (AllCR)

295 274 Looks like Kavanaugh's accuser is listed as a Palo Alto University professor, previously listed as a self-employed psychologist, who donates to the DNC, the DNCC, and Bernie.

https://tinyurl.com/ya4qcuyo
Posted by: Bert G at September 16, 2018 03:28 PM (OMsf+)


Palo Alto University?

Never heard of it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (YqDXo)

296 293 No cookbook? Sad!
Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (MVjcR)

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"To Serve Man?"

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (WEBkv)

297 What's next

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:29 PM (1UZdv)

I wish Kavanaugh could just come out and say he'd never even had a drink until age whatever. How many people get sloppy drunk at 15?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (rnXGe)

298 Ford's account corroborated by therapists notes from 2012



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:38 PM (AllCR)



2012? 2012??



What was that, 30 years on?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

Ford's account to the therapist said 4 high level men assaulted her.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (FTXAT)

299 #goodbyekavanaugh





Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:03


REMAIN CALM! ALL IS WELL!

Posted by: Chip Diller at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (XKT2l)

300 +1000 for Raymond Chandler!

His collected works (short stories, novels, and other writings, are in a 2-volume set from Library of America.

Absolutely incredible e writing sizzles off the page...

Posted by: Slash Buzz at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (q6wMa)

301 To Serve Moron.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (yQpMk)

302 Saw 'the red badge of courage' with Audie Murphy a few days ago...interesting movie.

Hesitant and then he saw the light!

Now must read the book.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (iYt4/)

303 As for Kavanaugh, despite my feelings on him I think he will withdraw his nomination. The -stupid- Republican Party made this inevitable with their smears against Roy Moore, and now Republicans can't point to much difference between this versus that. Beyond "well, this guy is just better than Roy Moore. He went to an Ivy, fer godsake."

The result will be epic at the base level, of course, but I genuinely think the Dems can and will push enough Republicans to signal against him.

Posted by: trev006 at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (U/EEq)

304 I don't believe it. I'm just reporting what has been reported.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (AllCR)


I'm sure. I didn't mean to suggest you did believe it.

As indicated previously, I take a very dim view of allegations of decades-old misbehavior, a forteriori when such allegations are oh so convenient politically.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (YqDXo)

305

To Serve Moron.

Posted by: Grump928(C)



Food Thread recipe??

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:33 PM (SFIp6)

306 Christ Sooth, Kavanaugh is going nowhere.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:30 PM (FTXAT)

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He is going to his place as an Associate Justice to SCOTUS until being sworn in as a Justice.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 16, 2018 03:33 PM (I16G8)

307 Apropos of comments this week, is there any evidence that Jan III Sobieski's charge with the "Winged Hussars" against the Orcs Ottomans at Vienna was the origin of Theoden's Charge at Minas Tirith?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (yQpMk)

I don't know, but here's a unit patch that Sobieski inspired:
https://tinyurl.com/y8tzrwts

Posted by: Bert G at September 16, 2018 03:33 PM (OMsf+)

308 I wish Kavanaugh could just come out and say he'd
never even had a drink until age whatever. How many people get sloppy
drunk at 15?


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (rnXGe)

Many, many people get sloppy drunk at 15... I doubt Kavanaugh was one of them but there are many.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:33 PM (FTXAT)

309

I, Moron

by Ace

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:33 PM (SFIp6)

310 I still can't wrap my head around that.


Posted by: bluebell


You could if your hair was longer, just sayin'.

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2018 03:33 PM (3ofL6)

311 "How many people get sloppy drunk at 15? "

He was 17. A lot of kids. Especially in suburbs when parents go away.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:34 PM (1UZdv)

312 310 I still can't wrap my head around that.


Posted by: bluebell


You could if your hair was longer, just sayin'.
Posted by: JT at September 16, 2018 03:33 PM (3ofL6)
--------
Is she now speaking publicly about 'the haircut'?

Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 03:34 PM (MVjcR)

313

The ONLY way Kavanaugh will withdraw is if the Left and Fake News peel off just one Republican senator.

Because one will turn into two, and so on.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (SFIp6)

314 Lol, I have most of his stuff on that fussy old thing we call paper.


Yeah, love paper but Kindle is convenient and free is right in my budget.

Free books on Kindle have let me check out authors I'd never have gone to the trouble for.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (fuK7c)

315 I don't know, but here's a unit patch that Sobieski inspired:
https://tinyurl.com/y8tzrwts




Nice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (yQpMk)

316 Late to the thread and many of my suggestions have been made. I'll add the Lewis and Clark Journals, Memoirs of Ulysses Grant, anything by Eric Sloan, Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin, Jubal Sackett, the Heinlein juveniles, books about the battles of Kings Mountain, Cowpens, and a biography of the Swamp Fox, essays of EB White and the original Conan stories which I consider quintessential American.

Posted by: JTB at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (V+03K)

317 He was 17. A lot of kids. Especially in suburbs when parents go away.



Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:34 PM (1UZdv)

He was born Feb 1965. This happened in 1980.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (rnXGe)

318 I, Moron

by Ace
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:33 PM (SFIp6)


"What would the three laws of Moronics be?" would be a thread by itself.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (y87Qq)

319 As for Kavanaugh, despite my feelings on him I think
he will withdraw his nomination. The -stupid- Republican Party made
this inevitable with their smears against Roy Moore, and now Republicans
can't point to much difference between this versus that. Beyond "well,
this guy is just better than Roy Moore. He went to an Ivy, fer godsake."



The result will be epic at the base level, of course, but I
genuinely think the Dems can and will push enough Republicans to signal
against him.

Posted by: trev006 at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (U/EEq)

That will not happen... it cannot be allowed to happen if the Republicans are to be able to do anything or hold any position in the future. They will always be able to trot out liars and crazy people who actually believe what they are saying.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (FTXAT)

320
Palo Alto University?

Never heard of it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (YqDXo)

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It's where people go to get teaching jobs who aren't qualified to be hired by a real university.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (ZX8Kg)

321 I've read a good number of Louis L'Amour's
books and I must point out that his last book, Last of the Breed was especially good.

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (3ofL6)

322 229
Are we in a similar situation to 1860?

Posted by: clutch

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Are there Citadel cadets charging cannon at Battery Park in Charleston? That would be an early sign.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:20 PM (Et1Ic
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This is why history is so important. Catton's first book in his trilogy (The Coming Fury) does a deep dive into the political situation so you can get a sense of just how screwed up everything was.

Basically, the Dems were a national majority but so torn by competing factions that they hated each other more than the opposition. You also had an 1860s version of purity spiral where they outdid one another to try to be the most "woke" in terms of platform and what they would accept.

So the politics are interesting, but also interesting was how the federal government made matters worse by shipping arms and munitions to vulnerable southern depots and forts so that if - perish the thought - the Southern states went into rebellion, they'd have lots of weapons ripe for the taking.

At the same time, the North was also gearing up. Look up "Wide Awakes" sometime. They were Republican "storm troopers" that did night marches and practiced drilling maneuvers.

Basically both sides were openly gearing up for something, and I just don't see us there yet. Then again, one war doesn't have to look like the one before it.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 03:36 PM (B/PO4)

323 Now to read the entire thread and make a list.

Posted by: JTB at September 16, 2018 03:36 PM (V+03K)

324 He was born Feb 1965. This happened in 1980.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (rnXGe)

But they were playing music that didn't come out until 1985?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:36 PM (AllCR)

325 I wish Kavanaugh could just come out and say he'd
never even had a drink until age whatever. How many people get sloppy
drunk at 15?


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (rnXGe)

I got sloppy drunk exactly once in high school, and I believe I was 15, or maybe barely 16.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ready for Winter at September 16, 2018 03:36 PM (XKT2l)

326 Moron In The Rye

(An Alcoholic's Story)

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 16, 2018 03:36 PM (OBcoN)

327
Tomorrow, we'll probably hear from at least one former Republican senator, expressing dismay at Kavanaugh, urging he withdraw.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:36 PM (SFIp6)

328 I think Kav will get approved, but there's an exposure. At least three Rs are flaky. The D senators in Trump states can wriggle off the hook.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:36 PM (1UZdv)

329 I have started on Jordan Peterson's list. Finished the first book of the Gulag Archipelago, now reading The Brother's Karamazov. The Gulag Archipelago will convince you that you should never let your government become so powerful that it can impose 10-year sentences for doing nothing.

Posted by: Marian Booker at September 16, 2018 03:37 PM (lGgl/)

330
But they were playing music that didn't come out until 1985?



Dood...

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:37 PM (SFIp6)

331

Come on!

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:37 PM (SFIp6)

332 Basically both sides were openly gearing up for something, and I just don't see us there yet. Then again, one war doesn't have to look like the one before it.


Yeah, too intermingled now. Less Bull Run and more Sarajevo.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:37 PM (yQpMk)

333 But they were playing music that didn't come out until 1985?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:36 PM (AllCR)

Pretty sure the St. Elmos Fire post was a joke.
I'm curious how old the accuser was.
Reports are coming out that this woman spent the past few days deleting every social media account.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:38 PM (rnXGe)

334 Looks like Kavanaugh's accuser is listed as a Palo Alto University professor, previously listed as a self-employed psychologist, who donates to the DNC, the DNCC, and Bernie.

https://tinyurl.com/ya4qcuyo
Posted by: Bert G at September 16, 2018 03:28 PM (OMsf+)

Palo Alto University?

Never heard of it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Well, it's no Burlington College, that's for sure.

Posted by: Jane Sanders at September 16, 2018 03:38 PM (Et1Ic)

335 Tomorrow, we'll probably hear from at least one former Republican senator, expressing dismay at Kavanaugh, urging he withdraw.


What's the over-under on Lugar?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:38 PM (yQpMk)

336 He was born Feb 1965. This happened in 1980.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (rnXGe)



But they were playing music that didn't come out until 1985?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:36 PM (AllCR)

In which case he was 20 and out of high school.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:38 PM (FTXAT)

337 Roughing It. Great book. Really long read.
Favorite part was the story of the three travelers getting stuck in a blizzard and promising to give up their vices.
The next day after they were fine... Well, human nature. Twain was brilliant in his examples of human nature!

Posted by: Sugar plum fairy #etc at September 16, 2018 03:38 PM (ETFzT)

338 Is she now speaking publicly about 'the haircut'?

Posted by: Weasel


I suspect anyone she told is gonna get stabbed
if they mention it.

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2018 03:38 PM (3ofL6)

339
The -stupid- Republican Party made this inevitable with their smears against Roy Moore, and now Republicans can't point to much difference between this versus that.

No sentinent being could be so obtuse, stupid and gutless to give serious credence to these obviously politically-driven absurdities.

Oh, it's the Republicans you're talking about.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 03:38 PM (LsBY9)

340

What's the over-under on Lugar?


Oooh, good call.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:39 PM (SFIp6)

341 He was born Feb 1965. This happened in 1980.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (rnXGe)

So he's one year older than me. Cool. And yes, kids drank back then.

It'll be nice to have a SCOTUS justice who was not around when the Charelston was all the rage.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ready for Winter at September 16, 2018 03:39 PM (XKT2l)

342
273 The human civilization in Starship Troopers was a federal republic, with the franchise being restricted to veterans, i.e., those who have already put their butts on the line.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at September 16, 2018 03:21 PM (zPXxR)

When the franchise is restricted that heavily, and to a small core of people, the common term has been dictatorship, even when there is no individual figure to centralize all power in. The Soviet dictatorships were organized along such lines after Stalin, partly to prevent a repeat of Stalinist excess.

In the Starship Troopers universe, the military does not seek excessive privilege and judges itself at least as harshly as the common people. So it is hardly malevolent. But it isn't even as free as the Founders originally made the American union.
Posted by: trev006 at September 16, 2018 03:28 PM (U/EEq)

Um, nobody was denied the service obligation. Example was the blind cripple who enlisted for service would be found some task they could accomplish. You just had to sign up. I was going to say get off your butt and sign up but that would invalidate the cripple example.
So the franchise is theoretically 100%. A lesser figure is FREE CHOICE!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 16, 2018 03:39 PM (e1mEI)

343 Ford's account to the therapist said 4 high level men assaulted her.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (FTXAT)


What?? In high school? Or integrated over her entire life?

She sounds like a nut job to me. How likely is that four high level men assaulted one person who herself was never in a high position?

This reminds of a story from academia. A colleague's grad student accused another grad student of assaulting her (somehow - not rape-rape, but I've forgotten what). It was plausible, as the guy was a bit of a player, and from a Third World country, and thus not entirely au fait with American mores.

My colleague - who is the salt of the earth - responded with sympathy and support, but apparently not enough for this gal.

Next, she accused him of assaulting her. Now this was ridiculous, as he's pretty much like a Bob Newhart type, and quite possibly the very last person on earth likely to do this.

She went to the dean, and the shit was about to hit the fan generally, when she started accusing the dean of assaulting too.

That, of course, tore it. She obviously was in need of psychiatric care.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:39 PM (YqDXo)

344 199---Seriously? Because St. Elmo's fire came out in 1985. When was the alleged assault again?
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 03:11 PM (B/PO4)
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Are you sure? You'd think her script writers would check that.
He's born in 1965.
And she heard a song from 1985.
But this is when he was in high school.
At age 20.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 16, 2018 03:40 PM (0jtPF)

345 I just asked husband. He went an all boy's high school. He said he got drunk at age 15 when the drinking age was 21, but he didn't accost any girls and I believe him. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:40 PM (AllCR)

346 You'd think quite a few men out there, no matter what business they were in today, would not be so anxious to get into this frenzied, torch carrying outrage over Kavenaugh's teenage past. What, they've never been rebuffed, pushed away by a girl, for God's sakes? Or are they so secure in the knowledge that no one will come forth, even decades later and accuse?

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:40 PM (dI3/S)

347 "Ford does not remember all of the details of the alleged incident -- such as the exact time or location -- but says she took a lie detector test administered by a former FBI agent in August, which determined she was telling the truth when she said her account of that night was accurate. Ford claims that during a house party one summer -- she believes it was 1982,"

So recovered memory.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (1UZdv)

348
Has anyone explored Kavanaugh's Vietnam draft deferment yet?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (LsBY9)

349 Battle Cry of Freedom, a pretty comprehensive picture and explanation of the immense story that was the Civil War. It's been a very long time since I read it, but recall how it gave me a much better and broader understanding of the whole (social, philosophical, economic, cultural) basis and consequences of that conflict. Obviously central to understanding actual American history.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (QDnY+)

350 Palo Alto University?



Never heard of it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:31 PM (YqDXo)


Get this, they offer a B.S. in "Psychology and Social Action".
Quelle surprise.

Posted by: Bert G at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (OMsf+)

351 What, they've never been rebuffed, pushed away by a girl, for God's sakes?


Lindsay Graham is safe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (yQpMk)

352 Any mention of Anabasis yet? Can any morons recommend a good annotated translation?

Posted by: GT 5.0 at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (08HPG)

353

Maybe it was Eddie Murphy's and Rick James' "Party All The Time," then?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (SFIp6)

354 Big Trouble by Dave Barry.

Also Tricky Business by Dave Barry.

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (3ofL6)

355 it cannot be allowed to happen if the Republicans are to be able to do anything or hold any position in the future. They will always be able to trot out liars and crazy people who actually believe what they are saying.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:35 PM (FTXAT)

None of that is wrong, but:

https://globalnews.ca/news/3898543/jeff-flake-campaign-
donation-roy-moore-opponent/

Jeff Flake absolutely will come through with another backstab, and that should be enough for another Republican to send out signals. That's goodbye Kavanaugh.

Posted by: trev006 at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (U/EEq)

356 Has there been any examination of Kavanaugh's pre-birth activities?

Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 03:42 PM (MVjcR)

357 A person could watch "Gunsmoke" and "The Rifleman" and receive an excellent lesson in history and morality, American style.

Some great recommendations by the Horde! Personally speaking, Bill Bennett's "America, The Last Best Hope" (2 volumes) is the best American history I have ever read. Not only is it well-written, but the reader can just fly through it in no time flat because it doesn't get bogged down. After reading this book, I understood for the first time just how much the assassination of Abraham Lincoln impacted our nation at the time. It brought me to tears.

And no, never read Fifty Shades of Grey. Not even interested.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at September 16, 2018 03:42 PM (RkS3d)

358 Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (1UZdv)

Oh, she took the lie detector test in August; How interesting.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:42 PM (AllCR)

359 I think there are many Republican Senators who would like to
A) cower before their masters in the media
B) stick a shiv in Trump's back
C) put off a strong conservative vote until they are safely in the minority party again.

The chickenshit is strong in that flock.

Posted by: Dharma Institute at September 16, 2018 03:43 PM (u8R6W)

360 A person could watch "Gunsmoke" and "The Rifleman" and receive an excellent lesson in history and morality, American style.


Also Cheyenne

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2018 03:43 PM (3ofL6)

361

It's almost like they had all this planned out...

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:43 PM (SFIp6)

362 And before it was 2 guys. Now it's 4?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:43 PM (AllCR)

363 348
Has anyone explored Kavanaugh's Vietnam draft deferment yet?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh



Grassy knoll, man. Grassy. Knoll.

Think about it........wheels within wheels..........

Posted by: Puddleglum, undisclosed location at September 16, 2018 03:43 PM (+QYmp)

364 A drunken teenage grope has now morphed in her imagination from an attempted rape to an attempted murder.

You're giving the left the benefit of the doubt. This is a classic Big Lie technique: (1) lie. (2) lie big. (3) watch your targets say, well, even though lie might be true, big lie cannot possibly be true.

And so lie lives on.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 16, 2018 03:43 PM (2lndx)

365 356 Has there been any examination of Kavanaugh's pre-birth activities?
Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 03:42 PM (MVjcR)

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I'm on it!

Posted by: Andie Sullivan at September 16, 2018 03:44 PM (WEBkv)

366 Has there been any examination of Kavanaugh's pre-birth activities?

Posted by: Weasel


He was an excellent swimmer.

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2018 03:44 PM (3ofL6)

367 348
Has anyone explored Kavanaugh's Vietnam draft deferment yet?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (LsBY9)


I'm waiting for her to claim her put in a crate on top of his car and drove around.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:44 PM (YqDXo)

368 The Human Comedy by Saroyan

Posted by: jb at September 16, 2018 03:44 PM (CIBIw)

369 Well, I was hoping to slip this to J.J. for tomorrow's Morning Report, but there's no keeping the lid on it. The near-ultimate Shit Midas effect.

This weekend is a major event in the equestrian world, the FEI World Equestrian Games, held (unfortunately) in Tryon, NC. Approximate attendance runs 400K people from the world over. Horses flown in from all over the globe.

Well, I grieve for the animal, but the poor creature was doomed on the day that it was named:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc32lnex

I note in passing that it was a gelding.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 03:45 PM (Et1Ic)

370 362 And before it was 2 guys. Now it's 4?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:43 PM (AllCR)


Mitosis.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:45 PM (YqDXo)

371
The only other songs from that time I could remember were:

I Wear My Sunglasses At Night
the soundtrack from Top Gun


But I figured "St Elmo's Fire" would be the best fit.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:45 PM (SFIp6)

372 /off sock

On Official Supplier of Pinochet Airways Parachutes nic.

Posted by: blake - cement canopy salesman at September 16, 2018 03:45 PM (WEBkv)

373 Reading suggestion:
Real Ponies Don't Go Oink by Patrick F McManus

Posted by: Dharma Institute at September 16, 2018 03:45 PM (u8R6W)

374 I know I should read some of the classics listed, but I am so easily bored by old timey writing that my eyes glaze over and I get nothing from it. Better that someone smart and witty read it, then summarize it with plenty of jokes, and maybe marionettes.

Or perhaps have a beloved celebrity read it aloud to me. Kind of like when Gilbert Gottfried read passages from 50 Shades of Grey (laughed so hard I almost pissed my pants)

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ready for Winter at September 16, 2018 03:45 PM (XKT2l)

375 307
Apropos of comments this week, is there any evidence that Jan III
Sobieski's charge with the "Winged Hussars" against the Orcs Ottomans at
Vienna was the origin of Theoden's Charge at Minas Tirith?



Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:25 PM (yQpMk)
---
Yes. Even down to using the spire of the St. Stephen's cathedral as a lookout waiting for aid to arrive. Just like Denethor sitting in the White Tower.

Of course there are some big differences, (no Nazgul), but yeah, that's the inspiration. That charge must have been something else, btw. The Holy League brought out every relic they had, heard a mass on the morning of the attack and went all-in. They knew history hung in the balance.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 03:45 PM (B/PO4)

376 362 And before it was 2 guys. Now it's 4?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:43 PM (AllCR)


Four high-level men? In high school? So the Prom King, the class president, the QB of the football team ... who's the fourth? I guess the president of the AV club is off the hook.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:46 PM (YqDXo)

377 Ford's account to the therapist said 4 high level men assaulted her.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (FTXAT)



What?? In high school? Or integrated over her entire life?



She sounds like a nut job to me. How likely is that four high level
men assaulted one person who herself was never in a high position?



This reminds of a story from academia. A colleague's grad student
accused another grad student of assaulting her (somehow - not rape-rape,
but I've forgotten what). It was plausible, as the guy was a bit of a
player, and from a Third World country, and thus not entirely au fait
with American mores.



My colleague - who is the salt of the earth - responded with sympathy and support, but apparently not enough for this gal.



Next, she accused him of assaulting her. Now this was
ridiculous, as he's pretty much like a Bob Newhart type, and quite
possibly the very last person on earth likely to do this.



She went to the dean, and the shit was about to hit the fan generally, when she started accusing the dean of assaulting too.



That, of course, tore it. She obviously was in need of psychiatric care.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:39 PM (YqDXo)

Her account to the therapist was that 4 boys from an elite boys school attacked her. She is now saying that the therapist "wrote it down wrong" (?!?!!!??) and that what she had ACTUALLY said was that there were 4 boys total at the party.

She is lying or delusional and the Senate Judiciary Committee has already said, in response to this article, that they are going forward to confirm Kavanaugh.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:46 PM (FTXAT)

378 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:44 PM (YqDXo)

That made me laugh

Call your Senators again if they're R's. I can't call mine because they are Senator Spartacus and Bob "I like underage teen hookers" Menenedez

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:46 PM (AllCR)

379 Infantry Attacks, by Erwin Rommel.

Posted by: George Patton at September 16, 2018 03:46 PM (rjbMC)

380 Nobody would include The Red Badge of Courage or The Grapes of Wrath.
I'm not recommending either. I'm asking. They were required reading in High School.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 16, 2018 03:46 PM (jlPtK)

381 Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
Animal Farm
Federalist Papers
Oeconomicus - Xenophon
Ender's Game

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at September 16, 2018 03:47 PM (PpAPO)

382 Battle Cry of Freedom,

Posted by: rhomboid at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM

I was going to suggest that long ago but bit my tongue

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2018 03:47 PM (T4oHT)

383 Oh, she took the lie detector test in August; How interesting.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:42 PM (AllCR)


The polygraph guy was all booked up the last 38 years.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:47 PM (YqDXo)

384 "Has there been any examination of Kavanaugh's pre-birth activities? "

Dude was all up in his mom. Sick.

Posted by: See if it sticks at September 16, 2018 03:47 PM (UdKB7)

385 Abolition of Man.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 16, 2018 03:47 PM (/qEW2)

386 Ford's account to the therapist said 4 high level men assaulted her.
_____________________

Really, I thought it was teenage boys at a party? None of them were "high level men" in 1982.

Sounds like part of her fantasy is to be important. "High-level men" desired her. Oooooooh. Guess that sounds better than "I was once groped by a drunk teenage boy."

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 16, 2018 03:48 PM (fqUgw)

387 362 And before it was 2 guys. Now it's 4?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:43 PM (AllCR)

It appears the narrative is falling apart like a Jack in the Box biscuit.


Excellent.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ready for Winter at September 16, 2018 03:48 PM (XKT2l)

388
who's the fourth? I guess the president of the AV club is off the hook.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity


Chess club. It was O-Muse.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 03:48 PM (LsBY9)

389 The reason the Dems made the name of the accuser public is simply to make it more more difficult for any Republican to question her story. By attaching a name (and a bio) to her, it's now become harder to refute what is obviously a bullshit story.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 03:49 PM (NFEMn)

390 To Kill a Mockingbird

Posted by: Chris Wright at September 16, 2018 03:49 PM (oczdw)

391 Kavanaugh was going to be a potential SCOTUS justice pick in 2016, and we're only hearing about this now? Right.

Posted by: josephistan at September 16, 2018 03:49 PM (Izzlo)

392 Her account to the therapist was that 4 boys from an elite boys school attacked her. She is now saying that the therapist "wrote it down wrong" (?!?!!!??) and that what she had ACTUALLY said was that there were 4 boys total at the party.

She is lying or delusional and the Senate Judiciary Committee has already said, in response to this article, that they are going forward to confirm Kavanaugh.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:46 PM (FTXAT)


Haven Monaghan strikes again.

How reliable are the therapist's notes if her notes messed up something that simple and straightforward?

Unless the Dems figure if this flies, they'll include a couple more Repubs on the list and get their money's worth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:49 PM (YqDXo)

393 The Communist Manifesto
Mein Kampf
The Koran (hoping I get an ISWYDT)


Actually, an anti-book list is a good idea. Know your enemy. Try to see why such large numbers of people find evil books compelling in the first place. Test yourself to see if you're astute enough to spot the problems as they arise.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (/qEW2)

394 Fenelon: hunt update.

herself had a 2 hour plus in-person interview Fryday, with two guys, one of whom would be her immediate boss if hired.

this was the "First!" in person interview, as all previous ones where over the phone.

decision to be made "early next week", so we're mildly hopeful, but....

#goodthoughts!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (rjbMC)

395 I just realized where the fake storm weatherguy got his inspiration.

Buster Keaton did it better in Steamboat Bill Jr.

Posted by: Miklos, ready for his closeup at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (zCyNd)

396

It appears the narrative is falling apart like a Jack in the Box biscuit.


Just shows the brutal effect of this violent rape.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (LsBY9)

397 383 Oh, she took the lie detector test in August; How interesting.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:42 PM (AllCR)
________________

It won't register as deception on the polygraph if the person being tested believes it.

And no doubt this woman believes it. She wants it to be true. So to her, it is true.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (fqUgw)

398 347 "Ford does not remember all of the details of the alleged incident -- such as the exact time or location -- but says she took a lie detector test administered by a former FBI agent in August, which determined she was telling the truth when she said her account of that night was accurate. Ford claims that during a house party one summer -- she believes it was 1982,"

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (1UZdv)
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Ah, she remembers it all so vividly --- EXCEPT for any details that one might conceivably be able to check, such as the date and location.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (0jtPF)

399 I am sure they didn't visit any sins of the father on Kavanaugh yet, so what are they waiting for?

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2018 03:51 PM (T4oHT)

400 I have a copy of the Koran, but it's a recent translation, and I am highly suspicious that it was watered down a bit. I think I need to find an old copy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ready for Winter at September 16, 2018 03:51 PM (XKT2l)

401
Hate to admit this, but I listened to Synchronicity II the other day and it was like hearing it for the first time. Kind of a great song.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:51 PM (SFIp6)

402 I've always liked Edgar Allen Poe and Ambrose Bierce

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 16, 2018 03:51 PM (jlPtK)

403 Buster Keaton did it better in Steamboat Bill Jr.
Posted by: Miklos, ready for his closeup at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (zCyNd)

+++

Buster Keaton was amazing.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 03:51 PM (dI3/S)

404 Did she come alone to the party?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:51 PM (yQpMk)

405 Leftie playbook is often to attack your greatest strength.

Kav has been portrayed as the Ultimate Boy Scout. (and he is), hence this attack. Would never work on Trump, and man have they tried.

I thought something like this would be fabricated from his time at a Yale fraternity. Instead we get high school, FFS

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:52 PM (1UZdv)

406 The reason the Dems made the name of the accuser public is simply to make it more more difficult for any Republican to question her story. By attaching a name (and a bio) to her, it's now become harder to refute what is obviously a bullshit story.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 03:49 PM (NFEMn)

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It actually seems like putting a name and a story behind it makes it easier to ignore as blatant bullshit, not harder.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 16, 2018 03:52 PM (I16G8)

407 She'll probably come out at a new conference next to make it even harder to question her.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 03:52 PM (NFEMn)

408 Posted by: redc1c4 at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (rjbMC)

I appreciate the update. Will continue to keep her in prayer and do let us know. If I'm not around-which may be hard to believe ;^) please send me an e-mail. You're my prayer assistant; You know how to reach me! :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:52 PM (AllCR)

409 That, of course, tore it. She obviously was in need of psychiatric care.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:39 PM (YqDXo)


May I reccommend Palo Alto University? They have a clinic.

Posted by: Herr Prof. Dr. Dr. Miklos Molnar at September 16, 2018 03:52 PM (zCyNd)

410

Yeah, that's true, isn't it?

Brett Kavanaugh was on Candidate Trump's "list" of potential nominees for The Court, wasn't he.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:53 PM (SFIp6)

411 Man's Search for Meaning, Viktor Frankl.


The Courage to Create, Rollo May

Posted by: shibumi at September 16, 2018 03:53 PM (QKV7o)

412


Basically both sides were openly gearing up for something, and I just don't see us there yet. Then again, one war doesn't have to look like the one before it.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018

A typical insurgency. Not a lot of brutal fighting but a lot of death dealt out by extreme left and right. Thats where the Happy Fun Camps start up.
A brief note: the left right rumbles will take place where they always take place, in the middle ground where everybody just wants to be left alone. Let the false flags abound!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 16, 2018 03:53 PM (e1mEI)

413 Too bad Kavanaugh isn't acting as the defense lawyer for some other guy nominated to the Supreme Court; I'm sure he could knock the stuffing out of the whole story.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:54 PM (AllCR)

414 It actually seems like putting a name and a story behind it makes it easier to ignore as blatant bullshit, not harder.
____________________

Especially since we now know she's a Dim contributor and a Bernie supporter. IOW, a committed leftist. So she has motive to lie, because there is nothing those people won't do or say to keep Trump's picks off SCOTUS.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 16, 2018 03:54 PM (fqUgw)

415 356 Has there been any examination of Kavanaugh's pre-birth activities?
Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 03:42 PM (MVjcR)

He viciously kicked his mother in the bladder on numerous occasions.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 03:54 PM (NWiLs)

416 Ah, she remembers it all so vividly --- EXCEPT for
any details that one might conceivably be able to check, such as the
date and location.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (0jtPF)

Or number of assaulters.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:54 PM (FTXAT)

417 Really, I thought it was teenage boys at a party? None of them were "high level men" in 1982.

Exactly. The story is bullshit. First, there are no "high level men" in high school. Hell, there are no MEN in high school; they're still boys.

Second, how would you keep track of them *cough* years on? Unless they're in the news all the time - which is inconceivable for four random high school boys - how would you have any idea whether they were now "high level" or not? Who here had ever heard of Kavanaugh before this?

Third, who are the other three, since she seems to know that they are now "high level" and nobody would ever characterize a high school boy as "high-level." Let's hear their story.

The story stinks. It just needs a broken glass coffee table to round out the narrative.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:54 PM (YqDXo)

418 "but says she took a lie detector test administered by a former FBI agent in August, which determined she was telling the truth"

George Costanza went on to work for the FBI?

I did not know that.

Posted by: Miklos, in a vintage Johnny Carson suit at September 16, 2018 03:55 PM (zCyNd)

419 Do cookbooks count?

I read them more than anything else, trying to find something different to fix for supper.

Posted by: ALH at September 16, 2018 03:55 PM (6Zmow)

420
"Look, let's just wait until after the mid-terms." - banana-spined GOP senators

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 03:55 PM (LsBY9)

421 Brett Kavanaugh was on Candidate Trump's "list" of potential nominees for The Court, wasn't he.
___________

Yes.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 16, 2018 03:55 PM (fqUgw)

422 I thought it was that the boys were high level men NOW.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:55 PM (AllCR)

423 101 "Roughing It" by Mark Twain

I just read that, too. I'm on a Twain binge.

It's a mess, it's a mish-mash. There's autobiography, there's tall tales, there's flat out lies, newspaper writing, and travelogue all mixed together.

Glad I read it but I wouldn't put it on anyone's to do list.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 02:46 PM (fuK7c)


I would; I've read it maybe 15 times. It is a deeper work than it may appear at first glance, and one thing it does very well, between the lines, is make clear what Americans are, how they think, and how they live with a sense of their own freedom down to their bones. As I suspect CBD was saying with his selection, I think that may be the most important thing missing from the education that the kids are currently getting.

Also it's really funny. There are several anecdotes in the book that I can't think of without chortling.

"While other youths were frittering away in frivolous amusements the precious years of budding vigor which God had given them for useful preparation, this boy was patiently enriching his mind with information concerning turnips."

Posted by: Splunge at September 16, 2018 03:55 PM (Vb4BV)

424
She'll probably come out at a new conference next to make it even harder to question her.



Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 03:52 PM (NFEMn)


The Dems will promise her a book and movie deal. Here today, gone tomorrow.

Posted by: colin at September 16, 2018 03:56 PM (jPjCK)

425 The reason the Dems made the name of the accuser public is simply to make it more more difficult for any Republican to question her story. By attaching a name (and a bio) to her, it's now become harder to refute what is obviously a bullshit story.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 03:49 PM (NFEMn)


It shouldn't. She didn't even go to the same high school. She can't prove the two even knew each other (based on other witnesses). Except for this one uncorroborated event.

But now that she's id'd, I hope Kavanaugh sues her into oblivion. Leftists have got to be smacked down hard to deter them from engaging in this bullshit.

This trick can only work if the cucks in the senate let it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 16, 2018 03:56 PM (/qEW2)

426 419 Do cookbooks count?

I read them more than anything else, trying to find something different to fix for supper.

Posted by: ALH at September 16, 2018 03:55 PM (6Zmow)
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Only one.

Posted by: Weasel at September 16, 2018 03:56 PM (MVjcR)

427 Shoot, I'm way late to the thread. These have all probably been mentioned but:

The Right Stuff
Young Men and Fire
Empire of the Summer Moon
The Long Grey Line: Westpoint class of '66

Posted by: Blutarski at September 16, 2018 03:56 PM (+Tibp)

428

Ponder this:

Could the lyrics from Synchronicity II make for a great movie screenplay?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 03:57 PM (SFIp6)

429 398 347 "Ford does not remember all of the details of the alleged incident -- such as the exact time or location -- but says she took a lie detector test administered by a former FBI agent in August, which determined she was telling the truth when she said her account of that night was accurate. Ford claims that during a house party one summer -- she believes it was 1982,"

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 03:41 PM (1UZdv)
----------------------------
Ah, she remembers it all so vividly --- EXCEPT for any details that one might conceivably be able to check, such as the date and location.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (0jtPF)


It is seared - seared, I tell you - into memory.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:57 PM (YqDXo)

430 Third, who are the other three, since she seems to know that they are now "high level" and nobody would ever characterize a high school boy as "high-level." Let's hear their story.
__________________

Well we know one of the other "high level men" who was at the party, in fact in the "rape" room, and that's Mark Judge.

Judge is a published writer. I don't know if that qualifies as "high level" in her mind, but apparently it does. Judge says that he never saw Kavanaugh do anything like what the woman claims, and that it would have been totally out of character for him.

So of the 4 high-level men at the party, two are on record as saying this "rape" never happened.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 16, 2018 03:58 PM (fqUgw)

431 Test yourself to see if you're astute enough to spot the problems as they arise.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 16, 2018 03:50 PM (/qEW2)

Mein Kampf was easy, though Hitler was never as rabidly insane as portrayed. The Manifesto was easy after simple profs (borrowed from Starshp Troopers) destroyed the thing.

The Koran is very tough, at least if you approach it from anything but a Christian perspective. It can stand for tolerance or uncompromising jihad, but then most religious movements have a similar duality. A certain type of Muslim makes Islam completely insane, which is why Indonesia and Afghanistan are very different societies.

Posted by: trev006 at September 16, 2018 03:58 PM (U/EEq)

432 It shouldn't. She didn't even go to the same high
school. She can't prove the two even knew each other (based on other
witnesses). Except for this one uncorroborated event.



But now that she's id'd, I hope Kavanaugh sues her into oblivion.
Leftists have got to be smacked down hard to deter them from engaging in
this bullshit.



This trick can only work if the cucks in the senate let it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 16, 2018 03:56 PM (/qEW2)

Kavanaugh is a public figure and is unlikely to win a libel suit because of that... especially if this women is mentally ill which she certainly appears to be.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:58 PM (FTXAT)

433 Doing laundry today after vacation.

There sure is plenty of it. I'll be at this until the ONT.

Posted by: ALH at September 16, 2018 03:58 PM (6Zmow)

434 I could link you to the Facebook account of an unfortunate woman of our acquaintance. It's full of lurid accounts of ritualized rapes of her by various powerful men in our community. It's sad really. Her total insanity was a late manifestation, though her ex-husband maintains that she was always more than a bit off. (her brother believes that he himself is a CIA operative, though he has never left the family farm).

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:59 PM (yQpMk)

435 422 I thought it was that the boys were high level men NOW.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 03:55 PM (AllCR)


I thought so too. But that raises my second question: how would you know that now, unless they're in the news a lot? How do you keep track of four students from another high school for 38 years?

And most appositely of all: how ARE the other three?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

436 Willowed. The woman mentioned this episode to her husband and her therapist. Not exactly a contemporary account.

She was 15 at an underaged drinking party in a private home. Were there any responsible adults around? Was she drunk? high?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 16, 2018 04:00 PM (/+bwe)

437 She went to the dean, and the shit was about to hit the fan generally, when she started accusing the dean of assaulting too.



That, of course, tore it. She obviously was in need of psychiatric care.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:39 PM (YqDXo)

I'm certain she believed all of it to be true, the way a paranoid schizophrenic believes the microscopic aliens living in his air vents are telepathically monitoring him.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 04:00 PM (NWiLs)

438 Kavanaugh is a public figure and is unlikely to win a libel suit because of that... especially if this women is mentally ill which she certainly appears to be.


Unless the friends is a public figure, he has a very good case though.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 04:00 PM (yQpMk)

439 I read them more than anything else, trying to find something different to fix for supper.

Posted by: ALH
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I would loan you my copy of 'The Charleston Cookbook', but it's a bit soggy just now. I do have a copy of 'Manifold Destiny, the Guide to Cooking on Your Automobile Engine', if you are interested.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 04:00 PM (Et1Ic)

440 I thought so too. But that raises my second question: how would you know that now, unless they're in the news a lot? How do you keep track of four students from another high school for 38 years?

And most appositely of all: how ARE the other three?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

+++

She sounds like a stalker. Mental.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 04:01 PM (dI3/S)

441 Ford's account to the therapist said 4 high level men assaulted her.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:32 PM (FTXAT)

Actually, she said four high level "beings".

And the FBI closes the Solar observatory with no explanation.

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!!

Posted by: Art Bell's bartender at September 16, 2018 04:01 PM (zCyNd)

442 Nood Food.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 16, 2018 04:01 PM (Dhht7)

443 There's good reason why polygraph results are inadmissible in court. They make great fodder for Dr. Phil and Maury Povich, but that's about it.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 16, 2018 04:02 PM (NWiLs)

444 Kavanaugh is a public figure and is unlikely to win a libel suit because of that... especially if this women is mentally ill which she certainly appears to be.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 03:58 PM (FTXAT)


My antennae began to twitch a bit when I learned that she's a clinical psychologist, frankly. Some people go into mental health practice because they themselves are a bit off dead center.

The four "high level men" thing makes my antennae twitch uncontrollably.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 04:02 PM (YqDXo)

445
"The Right Stuff"



There you go, there's no better novel to highlight Americana. Manly men, flying, tech nerds, family, innovation, freedom. It's got it all.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 16, 2018 04:02 PM (ye3s4)

446 And most appositely of all: how ARE the other three?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 03:59 PM (YqDXo)


Sorry, make that WHO are the other three?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 04:03 PM (YqDXo)

447

Since the food thread is up, I suppose only the Men remain here.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 04:03 PM (SFIp6)

448 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2018 04:00 PM (Et1Ic)

My favorite cookbooks are compilations of recipes from church groups or school PTA's. I have an oldie from an elementary school with the best recipe I've found for ham & potato casserole. It's great for Christmas ham leftovers.

Posted by: ALH at September 16, 2018 04:03 PM (6Zmow)

449 It is seared - seared, I tell you - into memory.
__________________

That Temple woman who got a $3 million+ pay-off from Bill Cosby, then had him criminally prosecuted anyway, was the same way.

This Cosby groping incident was the most painful and horrible thing that ever happened to her, and it scarred her and changed her life forever, but she's not sure when it happened. Could have been in March, no maybe January, no must have been late December. Well, for sure it was during one of those months, and it was such a horrible event that her life was never the same after that day -- whenever that day was!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 16, 2018 04:03 PM (fqUgw)

450 Aw jeeze, poor Cleveland.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ready for Winter at September 16, 2018 04:04 PM (XKT2l)

451 425
This trick can only work if the cucks in the senate let it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 16, 2018 03:56 PM (/qEW2)


Uh oh.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2018 04:04 PM (sdi6R)

452 "I could link you to the Facebook account of an unfortunate woman of our acquaintance. It's full of lurid accounts of ritualized rapes of her by various powerful men in our community. It's sad really. Her total insanity was a late manifestation, though her ex-husband maintains that she was always more than a bit off. (her brother believes that he himself is a CIA operative, though he has never left the family farm)."


Nothing quite this extreme, but I have a HS acquaintance who has reimagined an incident from HS to pretend she's part of #metoo. While in HS, a special needs boy grabbed this girl's butt. She was a very "strong" girl in HS and needed all of 2 seconds to wheel around and kick him in the crotch for coming near her. A couple of decades later, she puts together a tearful Facebook post that says Trump's election has brought back this painful memory!

True story.

Posted by: BethinPA at September 16, 2018 04:04 PM (WemuP)

453
Well, then it's a good time to inform you Gilligan's Island episode when the girls have a "beauty contest" is on.


It's a good one.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 04:04 PM (SFIp6)

454 Could have been in March, no maybe January, no must have been late December.


Whichever was still within the statute of limitations.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 04:05 PM (yQpMk)

455 "Roughing It" by Mark Twain

Try "Following the Equator", if only for the account of Mark Twain trying to surf.

No photos exist, but the picture in my mind is a source of permanent amusement.

Posted by: Miklos, hanging nine at September 16, 2018 04:05 PM (zCyNd)

456 I'm not a big fan of these kind of book lists; they are a bit too aspirational. I think the average person would get a lot more out of Mortimer J. Adler's Aristotle For Everybody than going directly to Aristotle, for example.

If you insist on primary sources though, Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France seems fairly essential. I didn't notice anything about Burke (secondary or primary sources) above.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at September 16, 2018 04:05 PM (H5knJ)

457 455
"Roughing It" by Mark Twain



Try "Following the Equator", if only for the account of Mark Twain trying to surf.



No photos exist, but the picture in my mind is a source of permanent amusement.

Posted by: Miklos, hanging nine at September 16, 2018 04:05 PM (zCyNd)

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Is that the same book where Twain finds the Hawaiian maidens frolicking naked in the surf and thoughtfully gathers up all their clothing and sits on it so it won't get stolen.

The guy was brilliant.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 04:07 PM (B/PO4)

458 Kav's accuser is represented by a lawyer, Debra Katz, a women friendly employment lawyer, who you can bet arranged for the lie detector test.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 16, 2018 04:07 PM (1UZdv)

459
"Unless the friends is a public figure, he has a very good case though."

If he sues, he's an ass for going after a damaged woman. If he doesn't sue, it's proof he assaulted her. He's fucked either way. The problem with decades old allegations.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 16, 2018 04:07 PM (ye3s4)

460 Is that the same book where Twain finds the Hawaiian maidens frolicking naked in the surf and thoughtfully gathers up all their clothing and sits on it so it won't get stolen.


That was Roughing It.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 16, 2018 04:08 PM (fuK7c)

461 I was a military brat, and so moved around a lot, but I only know what became of ONE person from high school, and that's because we ran into each other in grad school (same lab), and in comparing notes we realized we'd overlapped. He went on to found a company.

That's it. If we hadn't had lab benches almost adjacent to each other, and habitually worked late into the night, I'd never have known that either.

But she knows what became of FOUR guys from a different high school? Bullshit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 16, 2018 04:08 PM (YqDXo)

462 testing

Posted by: Octopus at September 16, 2018 04:09 PM (A2KHh)

463 Does manifold destiny still hold up? The car companies cram the engine compartments so tight now that I am not sure if there's any clear grilling surfaces?

Posted by: Dharma Institute at September 16, 2018 04:10 PM (u8R6W)

464 The local high school taught Fahrenheit 451, 1984, and Brave New World until recently. Now the emphasis is on reading to prepare for the SAT.

You know what the best book is? Whatever Mom or Dad reads with their kids to show them its importance. There are seventh and eighth grade boys who are voracious readers of fiction and nonfiction because their families and the local librarians tricked them into thinking it was cool. Field and Stream has some high end writing btw.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 16, 2018 04:10 PM (/+bwe)

465 The only people I know from high school are two friends of mine. Don't know what happened to any of the others except one woman who now lived in SCand I only know that not because I found out the information but because she comments on my sister's FB. I could not even tell you the name of all but a few of kids who went to high school with me and that's because they were in school plays with me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:11 PM (AllCR)

466
I think everyone from my high school ended up dead or in prison.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2018 04:12 PM (LsBY9)

467 Coulter's last book, she said she wrote very short fun chapters, because she is now of the Twitter age (or something like that)
indeed to get "kids" to read at all is a challenge, and constant texts and social media has certainly not trained them for chapter by chapter development.

Someone did a "for dummies" type extremely condensed version of To Kill a Mockingbird (iirc). It was real good, except when it flipped into SJW mode and changed the meat of the book.

But short and punchy, is what is required to get into the short attention span brain today, I suspect. Or maybe South Park and JibJab need to do some American Exceptionalism series.

The Preamble to the constitution, would be a pretty good Short and Punchy assignment in am 8th grade civics class, with some other supporting documents to drive home the points (e.g. selected Federalist Papers). Continue with discussions of federalism, and various conflicts of the founders, and how we got "here".

Posted by: illiniwek at September 16, 2018 04:12 PM (Cus5s)

468 I think everyone from my high school ended up dead or in prison.


Except you and me, Brah.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 04:12 PM (yQpMk)

469 I went to high school with Larry Page.

Yes, that Larry Page. Even then 'google' was one of his favorite words.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2018 04:14 PM (B/PO4)

470 438 Kavanaugh is a public figure and is unlikely to win a libel suit because of that... especially if this women is mentally ill which she certainly appears to be.


Unless the friends is a public figure, he has a very good case though.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 04:00 PM (yQpMk)
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Catch-22. She MAKES him a public figure by slandering him --- especially if he denies the charge to the media.
Then, you see, he has "gone public" of his own volition.

That's how our rulers protected those NBC affiliates that doctored George Zimmerman's 911 tape.

Yes, our laws DO need some correction.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 16, 2018 04:14 PM (0jtPF)

471 I discovered recently that a local TV celebrity was in my graduating class in HS. I have zero recollection of her.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 04:14 PM (yQpMk)

472 I don't even think I went to any parties in high school (except school play cast parties) and never had a date until I was in college. I can't even make up any stories about people in high school. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:14 PM (AllCR)

473 Hmm. New Testament, Wealth, Poverty and Politics by Sowell, Federalist Papers, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 16, 2018 04:14 PM (CeJUf)

474 There were over 700 in my graduating class and I don't know where any of them are. Except me of course.

Posted by: freaked at September 16, 2018 04:14 PM (UdKB7)

475 She must have hung out with the good kids.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 04:15 PM (yQpMk)

476 I don't know where any of them are. Except me of course.Posted by: freaked at September 16, 2018 04:14 PM (UdKB7)

Well, that's always a good thing! :^) I don't always know where I am-mentally speaking. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:15 PM (AllCR)

477 That's how our rulers protected those NBC affiliates that doctored George Zimmerman's 911 tape.

Yes, our laws DO need some correction.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 16, 2018 04:14 PM (0jtPF)

Richard Jewell did get money, not that it helped him much.

Posted by: Miklos, with an exception at September 16, 2018 04:16 PM (zCyNd)

478

Oh sad.

"Tinker" from Lovejoy is mort.

Lovejoy is one of my favorite tv serials. I watch episodes all the time.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 04:16 PM (SFIp6)

479 https://www.paloaltou.edu/

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 16, 2018 04:16 PM (rjbMC)

480 But I figured "St Elmo's Fire" would be the best fit.

How Soon is Now, by the Smiths with that jackass Morrissey.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 16, 2018 04:16 PM (v1udk)

481 One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich was added last year to the curriculum. I was really sad one teacher retired. she taught Chaucer, Dante, and other European Lit by evil white men.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 16, 2018 04:17 PM (/+bwe)

482 By 2012 Kavanaugh was probably on a feminist hit list, and they may well have had "insurance policies" against promising judges.
or they just fabricated the notes like the FBI can fabricate their notes on witnesses, and even selectively change the notes later.

Where are the notes from her 1982 psychiatrist? She really didn't seek help till 2012?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 16, 2018 04:17 PM (Cus5s)

483 How Soon is Now, by the Smiths with that jackass Morrissey.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 16, 2018 04:16 PM (v1udk)

Morrissey, somehow, has gone from being The World's Biggest Whiner to being highly politically incorrect. Not liking immigration to the UK, in particular.

Posted by: Miklos, it goes to show you never can tell at September 16, 2018 04:18 PM (zCyNd)

484 We need someone who knew her in HS to come out and say she's nuts.
And because they go public--she won't be able to sue them for libel.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 04:19 PM (NFEMn)

485 Gloria Allred must be suicidal without the cameras not focused on her mug while the patriarchy ascending under Trrrrruuuuuuummmmpppp!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 16, 2018 04:19 PM (v1udk)

486 481, NaughtyPine -Maybe eventually The Lure of the Forbidden will cause young people to read them. If they can read, that is.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 16, 2018 04:19 PM (CeJUf)

487
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:14 PM

Are you my long lost twin? I started going to parties in college because of meeting people at football games.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 16, 2018 04:20 PM (/+bwe)

488 How Soon is Now, by the Smiths with that jackass Morrissey.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 16, 2018 04:16 PM (v1udk)

Morrissey, somehow, has gone from being The World's Biggest Whiner to being highly politically incorrect. Not liking immigration to the UK, in particular.
Posted by: Miklos, it goes to show you never can tell at September 16, 2018 04:18 PM (zCyNd)

I always liked Morrissey and The Smiths.
Yeah, he can be a dick, but I admire him for speaking his mind--and then never offering a weasely apology when the shit hits the fan....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 04:20 PM (NFEMn)

489 482 By 2012 Kavanaugh was probably on a feminist hit list, and they may well have had "insurance policies" against promising judges.
or they just fabricated the notes like the FBI can fabricate their notes on witnesses, and even selectively change the notes later.

Where are the notes from her 1982 psychiatrist? She really didn't seek help till 2012?
Posted by: illiniwek at September 16, 2018 04:17 PM (Cus5s)


If the FBI is involved, color me skeptical. To say the least.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2018 04:22 PM (sdi6R)

490 'We need someone who knew her in HS to come out and say she's nuts.'

The Right doesn't play that game. That's why stuff like the persists.

Posted by: freaked at September 16, 2018 04:23 PM (UdKB7)

491 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

Posted by: JS Adair at September 16, 2018 04:23 PM (2X0wR)

492
Unbelievable!!

hahahahaha @ the nfl's "contractual obligations"

I just flipped past the game, Chiefs vs Steelers, with 18 seconds left in a close game, they turned off the game!

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 04:23 PM (SFIp6)

493 Morrissey, somehow, has gone from being The World's Biggest Whiner to being highly politically incorrect. Not liking immigration to the UK, in particular.


Even that twink knows you can't whine without a head due to muslim barbers!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 16, 2018 04:23 PM (v1udk)

494 this not the

Posted by: freaked at September 16, 2018 04:23 PM (UdKB7)

495 Any of the great encyclopedia sets printed before, say, the 2000's, or so.
Posted by: washrivergal at September 16, 2018 02:31

At work we have an Encyclopedia Britannica from 1818. It's undated but says Illinois is a territory that will become a state later in the year, hence 1818. Very detailed about obscure stuff, lists advisors to the Sultan of th Ottoman Empire.

For books for the list I'd suggest "1984" And "Fahrenheit 451".

Posted by: Farmer at September 16, 2018 04:25 PM (yJ1e6)

496
Um, Brett Kavanaugh was in the spotlight in 2006 during his confirmation.

Democrat Shits gave him a hard time, then, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 04:25 PM (SFIp6)

497 Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 16, 2018 04:20 PM (/+bwe)

I was just really shy and bookish (except on stage in parts other than myself) and I either didn't know when someone wanted to ask me out because they just talked to me on the phone and didn't ask directly, or they told me later, "I wanted to ask you out but didn't have the courage."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:26 PM (AllCR)

498 475 She must have hung out with the good kids.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 04:15 PM (yQpMk)
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She certainly hung out with the rich kids, the super-elite prep school boys.
Which is why it actually IS plausible that she would be aware of their later successes.
I suspect that she (and her parents) were very socially conscious, so to speak.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 16, 2018 04:27 PM (0jtPF)

499 There's an excellent (albeit highly controversial) historian named Howard Zinn that every American should read.

Posted by: Richard Yerkes at September 16, 2018 04:27 PM (tLa8P)

500 Did she come alone to the party?
Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 03:51 PM (yQpMk)


According to her faulty memory, she came 4 times.

Ok, I denounce myself.

Posted by: Traveling Man &&&& at September 16, 2018 04:28 PM (JVddv)

501 Gone with the Wind. There is one section about Scarlet building her business as a woman in the reconstruction south. It's one of the best explanations of how hard work and capitalism pays off that I've ever read.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at September 16, 2018 04:28 PM (fRU2t)

502 Oh, Richard; I imagine we ALL know something about Howard Zinn. LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:28 PM (AllCR)

503
There's an excellent (albeit highly controversial) historian named Howard Zinn that every American should read.

Posted by: Richard Yerkes



Hahahahaha, okay, Dick.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 04:29 PM (SFIp6)

504 and I either didn't know when someone wanted to ask me out

I missed some opportunities that way too. Oh well, it is what it is. I guess everything turned out according to God's plan.


?

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 04:29 PM (kD8Fh)

505 NaughtyPine -Maybe eventually The Lure of the Forbidden will cause young people to read them. If they can read, that is.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 16, 2018 04:19 PM

They CAN read but it is mostly a chore to them.

I have been delighted how the local school and library have turned reading into a normal thing again. A lot of current event articles are used for pro and con writing and debating, too. Last year all the little hunters ended up talking about gun safety after reading both sides of the Gun Ban debate and their classmates were more intrigued than nervous about 12 year olds using firearms.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 16, 2018 04:29 PM (/+bwe)

506 Um, Brett Kavanaugh was in the spotlight in 2006 during his confirmation.

Democrat Shits gave him a hard time, then, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at September 16, 2018 04:25 PM (SFIp6)

And then made up some shit and placed it in the "To Be Used Later If Nominated for SCOTUS" envelope.....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 04:29 PM (NFEMn)

507 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 02:38

The problem w/ all that good news for the lefties is that if she believes it happened, and it didn't she'll still pass the poly. There's a reason they are inadmissible in court and Congress should follow that legal guideline.

Posted by: Farmer at September 16, 2018 04:30 PM (yJ1e6)

508 and I either didn't know when someone wanted to ask me out

I missed some opportunities that way too. Oh well, it is what it is. I guess everything turned out according to God's plan.
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And I didn't know when someone WANTED me to ask them out.
I was shy.
And slow....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 04:30 PM (NFEMn)

509 Hurricane Flo is headed for VA and then making a northeasterly turn back out to the sea, however dumping some precip on eastern PA on her way out.


Bitch.

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 04:31 PM (kD8Fh)

510 Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 04:29 PM (kD8Fh)

My husband didn't even initially ask me out. We just worked together and were friendly and he said "I'm going to the art museum." It was my mother who said that I should tell him, "May I come to the art museum with you?" The rest is history. :^) I think mores have changed a lot now but I think it used to be hard for some men to ask women out if they were naturally reticent and didn't want to be rejected.

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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:32 PM (AllCR)

511 Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, MacKay, 1835

Although it's an early date, you will not find a better examination of how men act in groups, and how they have acted throughout history, than is contained here. You want to understand why and how Facebook and Twitter have turned into mob madness, it's here. You want to see into every market folly that has ever taken place, and every Elon Musk that has showed up in the generations before ours, they're here.

Signature Quote: "Men, it is has been well said, think in Herds, it will be seen that they go Mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2018 04:33 PM (k1TUh)

512 Mig Pilot, 10 Years & 20 Days

Posted by: Hurricane567 at September 16, 2018 04:34 PM (0F4t5)

513 There's an excellent (albeit highly controversial) historian named Howard Zinn that every American should read.

Posted by: Richard Yerkes at September 16, 2018 04:27 PM (tLa8P)


Hahahahaha... no.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 04:34 PM (FTXAT)

514 Quick, get Kavenough on Hannity to deny the impossible and implausible then have the GOPe put pressure on him to force him to withdraw his nomination.
/Sarc.

Here's the bottom line, the Democrats simply do not care who they have to destroy to advance their satanic agenda.

We really need to go scorched earth on these fucking animals.

Diane Feinstein shold not even be in a position to pull this crap but because the GOP is a useless pile of dogshit, here she is pulling this!

The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 16, 2018 04:34 PM (kT3/m)

515 was just really shy and bookish (except on stage in parts other than myself) and I either didn't know when someone wanted to ask me out because they just talked to me on the phone and didn't ask directly, or they told me later, "I wanted to ask you out but didn't have the courage."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:26 PM

You are my twin. Except I wanted to hit my friend for telling me 20 years later that he wanted to ask me out but did not. He married a high maintenance woman who wanted not to work MORE than she wanted to be a SAHM.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 16, 2018 04:38 PM (/+bwe)

516
"The Gulag Archipelago" -- Solzhenitsyn

"The Politics of Prudence" -- Kirk (backup choice and good primer for American Conservatism)

Posted by: Sapwolf at September 16, 2018 04:40 PM (IDzNv)

517 512 Mig Pilot, 10 Years & 20 Days
Posted by: Hurricane567 at September 16, 2018 04:34 PM

I read that just this year and there is too much background a reader needs to know unless it is used in a history course.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 16, 2018 04:41 PM (/+bwe)

518
The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.



Posted by: Kreplach at September 16, 2018 04:34 PM (kT3/m)

Grassley has already said they are going ahead with the Thursday vote and implied that the accusation is unbelievable.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 04:41 PM (FTXAT)

519 Grassley has already said they are going ahead with the Thursday vote and implied that the accusation is unbelievable.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 04:41 PM (FTXAT)

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I hope he weathers the criticism and stays with this.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 16, 2018 04:43 PM (I16G8)

520
"Witness" by Whitaker Chambers, an absolutely indispensable autobiography for Americans.

Posted by: Sapwolf at September 16, 2018 04:43 PM (IDzNv)

521 ." It was my mother who said that I should tell him, "May I come to the art museum with you?"

My mom would not have married my father if it weren't for her mother's intervention. Mom was already engaged to a guy who was working in Belgium. My dad showed up in their hometown when he was on leave from Germany, and she caught his eye. He liked her a whole lot. Mom did not want to pursue due to her already engaged status, but grandmom saw a big big opportunity to get her kid installed in AMERICA.


When dad came back to the States, he started getting letters from my mom. (except they were really written by grandmom). And so on and so on and shoobee doobee doo...

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 04:43 PM (kD8Fh)

522 It might be helpful if people call their R Senators and express that they will not vote for them in the Midterms unless they vote for Kavanaugh.

Glad Grassley is showing some balls; I hope people will call him too because the left is sure as heck going to call their Senators.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:43 PM (AllCR)

523 Probably too late to comment, but my list would include:

A good book on Mythology ( Bullfinch or Edith Hamilton)
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
The Prince by Machiavelli
Either Night by Eli Wiesel or Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
Gulag Archipelago by Soltzenitzen or We The Living by Rand
Anything by Jane Austen, Edgar Allan Poe, and HG Wells
Tolkien

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at September 16, 2018 04:44 PM (GSy5R)

524 Posted by: Sapwolf at September 16, 2018 04:43 PM (IDzNv)

I remember Imus being captivated by this book, he went on and on about it for about a month when it first published.

Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 04:44 PM (kD8Fh)

525 Posted by: kallisto at September 16, 2018 04:43 PM (kD8Fh)

That's a great story.

My mother saying "Why don't you call him?" struck me as funny because she was born in 1923 and in her era woman just didn't usually ask men out. I was sorry that my mother died before he and I actually became an item rather than just friends and before we married. She liked my future husband.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:46 PM (AllCR)

526 My husband didn't even initially ask me out. We just worked together and were friendly and he said "I'm going to the art museum." It was my mother who said that I should tell him, "May I come to the art museum with you?" The rest is history. :^) I think mores have changed a lot now but I think it used to be hard for some men to ask women out if they were naturally reticent and didn't want to be rejected.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:32 PM (AllCR)

This. And having a brother who --though we sort of resembled each other--was considered much more handsome didn't help. They wanted HIM.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 04:47 PM (NFEMn)

527 Yes, I wouldn't have wanted too be the one to ask someone out. I did eventually but that was after we started dating. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:48 PM (AllCR)

528 It might be helpful if people call their R Senators and express that they will not vote for them in the Midterms unless they vote for Kavanaugh.

Glad Grassley is showing some balls; I hope people will call him too because the left is sure as heck going to call their Senators.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:43 PM (AllCR)

I'm not TOO worried because when it comes to appointing conservative justices , Trump and the vast majority of the GOP are on the same page.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 16, 2018 04:49 PM (NFEMn)

529 Carl Becker, The Declaration of Independence
Camus, The Stranger
Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby
Swift's Gulliver's Travels

Posted by: newyorkslim at September 16, 2018 04:50 PM (pW+3f)

530 It's not Grassley they need to worry about. It's Flake, Sasse, Collins and Murkowski you need to worry about. I can see them getting together and repeating the Democrat line of "we need to investigate further". So they can't move ahead.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 16, 2018 04:51 PM (ye3s4)

531 Glad Grassley is showing some balls; I hope people will call him too because the left is sure as heck going to call their Senators.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 04:43 PM (AllCR)

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There are only a few Dems in Trump states that were ever going to vote for him anyway. Let them burn up the phones, wasted energy.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 16, 2018 04:53 PM (I16G8)

532 It's easier, I think, to break it down especially for literature. So, obviously the classics. Let's say 10 every person should read some of: Homer, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Herodotus, Thucydides, Virgil, Livy, Dante, Shakespeare and Cervantes

Then 10 American novels everyone should read:
1. The Sound and the Fury - Faulkner
2. Light in August - Faulkner
3. Moby Dick - Melville
4. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Twain
5. An American Tragedy - Dreiser
6. Blood Meridian - McCarthy
7. Henderson the Rain King - Bellow
8. Bonfire of the Vanities - Wolfe
9. The Iceman Cometh - O'Neill
10. The Big Sleep - Chandler

(Dos Passos' USA trilogy is superb, but that's 3)

Then 10 European novels

1. Anna Karenina - Tolstoy
2. Crime and Punishment - Dostoyevski
3. The Brothers Karamazov - Dostoyevski
4. Mysteries - Hamsun
5. Growth of the Soil - Hamsun
6. Nostromo - Conrad
7. The Stranger - Camus
8. Madame Bovary - Flaubert
9. Laughter in the Dark - Nabokov
10. Rabelais

Finally, 10 "world" literature:
1. Palace Walk - Mahfouz
2. The Autumn of the Patriarch - Garcia Marquez
3. Love in the Time of Cholera - Garcia Marquez
4. Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter - Vargas Llosa
5. Capt. Pantoja and the Secret Service - Vargas Llosa
6. A Bend in the River - Naipaul
7. Guerrillas - Naipaul
8. Thousand Cranes - Kawabata
9. Labyrinths - Borges
10. P.G. Wodehouse

After that, on to history, poetry and philosophy! Always open to discussion and debate re: any listed or omitted. Pura vida!



5.
10.

Posted by: James Varney at September 16, 2018 05:00 PM (Ptg1/)

533 I'm not TOO worried because when it comes to appointing conservative justices , Trump and the vast majority of the GOP are on the same page.


Unfortunately in this Congress, even a vast majority is insufficient against the unified criminal party. We can get by with two defections tops.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 05:01 PM (yQpMk)

534 I think Flake is going to vote Nay, btw.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 05:02 PM (yQpMk)

535 Thank goodness McCain is dead.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 05:02 PM (yQpMk)

536 But she knows what became of FOUR guys from a different high school? Bullshit.
_____________

If you read the WaPo story on the accuser, it says that her husband claims she mentioned Kavanaugh by name during the 2012 counseling sessions when she first recounted the alleged attack story. She said that he was a federal judge and that she worried that he might one day be appointed to the Supreme Court.

So she knew in 2012 that her would-be rapist/killer was already a federal judge, but she didn't contact the FBI, or her congressperson, or make any complaint about him then. Apparently it's okay to have would-be rapist/killers on the federal bench, just not on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 16, 2018 05:02 PM (fqUgw)

537 I'm going to go off and watch YouTube for a while. The Food Thread depresses me.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2018 05:03 PM (sdi6R)

538 3 Books that every American must read if they want to understand US politics:
1. Road To Serfdom. Friedrich Hayek
2. Liberal Fascism. Jonah Goldberg (before he became a cuck)

3. The Big Lie. Dinesh D'Souza

Posted by: dri at September 16, 2018 05:05 PM (SJnjL)

539

The Food Thread depresses me, too.

Posted by: Florence, former hurricane at September 16, 2018 05:05 PM (SFIp6)

540 Joseph Conrad (on your list) is really difficult to read. Michael Connelly is my fav of contemporary authors.

Posted by: JudyNM at September 16, 2018 05:06 PM (S64y2)

541 Posted by: James Varney at September 16, 2018 05:00 PM (Ptg1/)

Nice list.

Now what are the essential books that everyone with an 85 IQ should read?

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2018 05:06 PM (sdi6R)

542 Unfortunately in this Congress, even a vast majority is insufficient against the unified criminal party. We can get by with two defections tops.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 05:01 PM (yQpMk)

Traitor Jeff Flake, cucky Ben Sissy, and Never Trumper Thom Tilis are on the Judiciary Committte. Opposing them are hardline Dem progs.

I genuinely don't think Kavanaugh will make it past the Committtee.

Posted by: trev006 at September 16, 2018 05:12 PM (U/EEq)

543 Nice list.

Now what are the essential books that everyone with an 85 IQ should read?

Posted by: rickl


I seriously doubt that you have an 85 IQ.

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2018 05:13 PM (ywGCt)

544 Now what are the essential books that everyone with an 85 IQ should read?
Posted by: rickl

A compilation of recent Democrat Party platforms?

Posted by: Farmer at September 16, 2018 05:23 PM (yJ1e6)

545 This Kavanaugh scandal is starting to get some legs.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 16, 2018 05:27 PM (r9UYA)

546 The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksander Solzhenitsyn.

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 16, 2018 05:28 PM (VDbGO)

547 I was wrong, it wasn't Sasse or Flake to break first, it was Lindsey Graham to be the first to crack. He wants the committee to hear her
out before they vote. Sasse and Flake will be next and the shitshow
continues.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 16, 2018 05:29 PM (ye3s4)

548 Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 16, 2018 05:27 PM (r9UYA)

It's just starting too, huh? Thanks for the info Mitch.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 05:30 PM (AllCR)

549 I am very late to this thread I know but I will make one suggestion for the list of books every American should read: "True Grit" by Charles Portis. A true American classic. My father read it to my sisters and me when it was first published (I was about 13 at the time) and I have read many time since with great pleasure.

From it's opening sentence: "People do not give it credence that a fourteen-year-old girl could leave home and go off in the wintertime to avenge her father's blood but it did not seem so strange then, although I will say it did not happen every day." to it's last: "This ends my true account of how I avenged Frank Ross's blood over in the Choctaw Nation when snow was on the ground." it is a superb piece of storytelling and the story it tells is American to the core.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at September 16, 2018 05:31 PM (iuRR5)

550 I was wrong, it wasn't Sasse or Flake to break first, it was Lindsey Graham to be the first to crack. He wants the committee to hear her
out before they vote. Sasse and Flake will be next and the shitshow
continues.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 16, 2018 05:29 PM (ye3s4)

------------------

Good grief! I hope Grassley ignores this poofter DIABLO and is going to hold the vote anyway.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 16, 2018 05:33 PM (I16G8)

551 543 Nice list.

Now what are the essential books that everyone with an 85 IQ should read?

Posted by: rickl


I seriously doubt that you have an 85 IQ.
Posted by: JT at September 16, 2018 05:13 PM (ywGCt)


I'm just saying that there are a lot of people like that out there, and they vote.

Most of the books discussed here are over their heads, in some cases way over their heads.

What books are available that make the case for free-market capitalism and limited Constitutional government that this demographic might possibly read and understand?

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2018 05:34 PM (sdi6R)

552 I say wait for 17 years and then decide that if Kav did it it was reprehensible. That was about as long as it took Dems to denounce Clinton's abuse of power with Monica Lewinsky.

Posted by: vivi at September 16, 2018 05:34 PM (11H2y)

553 This is risible:

Woman says she was able to escape when Kavanaugh's friend Mark Judge jumped on top of them sending them all tumbling and she was able to get away.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 05:35 PM (AllCR)

554 A Man Called Intrepid by William Stevenson

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 16, 2018 05:37 PM (VDbGO)

555 @547

Yep, all they had to do is hang together on this but nope.


The GOP is a full of ideological confused and morally inconsistent idiots and fucktards...

or alternatively...

The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 16, 2018 05:38 PM (kT3/m)

556 I won't lie; I found Huck Finn a hard read. (And in HS, yes I am not making this up: I had an English teacher, a complete dumbass who was in it for his three months of vacation a year, and he all but admitted as much...anyway, he had us all read along to books on tape. This topped his earlier absurdity of having us all read The Scarlet Letter after he organized the class into groups of five and had us each read aloud sections in turns.)

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at September 16, 2018 05:38 PM (9GumG)

557
I think Flake is going to vote Nay, btw.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Believes America to be the Middle Kingdom at September 16, 2018 05:02 PM (yQpMk)

I don't think he will.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 16, 2018 05:41 PM (FTXAT)

558 God and Gold- Walter Russell Mead

Posted by: OncebittenTwiceasFly at September 16, 2018 05:42 PM (IrO2y)

559 Ruben, Ruben

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 16, 2018 05:43 PM (VDbGO)

560 Dune.

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 16, 2018 05:43 PM (VDbGO)

561 @#87 above, exdem13 recommends Manly Wade Wellman's stories of "Silver John the Ballad Singer". I heartily second his recommendation. The original collection of these short stories was published as "Who Fears the Devil?" in 1963 by Arkham House in hardback. Ballantine House did a paperback edition in 1964 (I have a tattered, treasured copy of this). And Paizo Publishing brought out a trade paperback edition in 2010.

The title, according to a prologue to the book, comes from "...a game song, once popular with Southern children." It goes:

"Who fears the Devil? says James unto Jim,
Who fears the Devil? says Jim unto Joan,
Who fears the Devil? says Joan unto John---
Not I! Not I! says John all alone."

Wellman came back to this character and wrote some, I think, five novels starring John published in the late 70s and early 80s.

Interestingly, Wellman never used "Silver John" or "John the Ballad Singer" himself. These were publishers inventions for marketing purposes. Though I will agree it can be awkward discussing the character without some such term.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at September 16, 2018 05:51 PM (iuRR5)

562 I'm looking for a film about the first Telstar satellite that I saw in second grade. Well, part of it anyway. I kept scooching my chair closer to the screen to see it better and eventually got kicked out of the auditorium. That incident led my teacher to suspect that I might need glasses.

This could be it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKH-GijnAGk

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2018 05:52 PM (sdi6R)

563 Johnny Tremain, "So that a man can stand up."

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 16, 2018 05:53 PM (3ug33)

564 Woman says she was able to escape when Kavanaugh's friend Mark Judge jumped on top of them sending them all tumbling and she was able to get away.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 05:35 PM (AllCR)


==


seriously?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 16, 2018 06:01 PM (CE6iV)

565 And a final comment here, I would like to respond to A. H. Lloyd.

First, his recommendation of Bruce Catton @173 above. I give a loud "Amen!" to this. Bruce Catton is one of the best Civil War historians. I owe him a debt of great gratitude for first introducing me to this amazing era in our history.

Second, his mention @276 above of Joseph Conrad's story "The Duel". Ridley Scott made an excellent movie version of this titled "The Duellists" (1977). Well worth watching.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at September 16, 2018 06:03 PM (iuRR5)

566 Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 16, 2018 06:01 PM (CE6iV)

Can't recall where I read it now, (I've been checking different things) but yes, I don't think it was a parody.
I'm sure that by the time she testifies secretly before Congress she'll have al the details worked out

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 06:05 PM (AllCR)

567 Definitely Toqueville's Democracy in America. But I would love some classroom time online or whatever for that and the Federalist papers. The language is just dense.

Posted by: The Media at September 16, 2018 06:08 PM (qlTN9)

568 "Woman says she was able to escape when Kavanaugh's friend Mark Judge jumped on top of them sending them all tumbling and she was able to get away"

She's just pissed cause she lost at Twister.

Posted by: freaked at September 16, 2018 06:08 PM (UdKB7)

569 Conservative Treehouse has a good meme
with a current picture of his accuser and it says "Judge Kavanaugh assaulted her 35 years ago" and the second picture has a picture of Kavanaugh
and underneath is...and so did whoever Trump nominates to Ginsburg's seat later this year.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 06:11 PM (AllCR)

570 Posted by: freaked at September 16, 2018 06:08 PM (UdKB7)

Could very well be.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2018 06:12 PM (AllCR)

571 I don't think you have to have some super high IQ to read the books on my list! OK, so some of them are dense (Faulkner, Garcia Marquez) but a lot of them are super funny (Wodehouse, Vargas Llosa, the 1st part of Cervantes, Rabelais).

And if we're talking about dense prose, whaddabout all the Hayek mentions here? I'm a big Hayek fan, but man his stuff is *dense* (even The Road to Serfdom). You can get some of the same thing and have more fun with P.J. O'Rourke.

I love JudyMN's Michael Connolly recommendation; I'm a huge fan. I think he towers above today's American thriller/detective/crime novels. Bosch is a terrific character. I do think Connolly's gotten a little virtue signaling and a shade SJW the last few years, but he is superb.

And anyone can read him, Chandler, MacDonald.

Posted by: James Varney at September 16, 2018 06:14 PM (Ptg1/)

572 If I were to pick five for a person's first year, It'd be Johnny Tremain, Mere Christianity, Brave New World, Sowell's Basic Economics, and Bonhoffer's The Cost of Discipleship.

Year two, probably The Abolition of Man, Animal Farm, Carson's Gifted Hands, Gatto's Dumbing Us Down, and Friedman's Free to Choose.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 16, 2018 06:14 PM (3ug33)

573 To this point @551: "What books are available that make the case for free-market capitalism and limited Constitutional government that this demographic might possibly read and understand?" I think there's lot of options. Mark Levin has gotten rich on books like that (and they're worth reading) and as I mentioned earlier, P.J. O'Rourke (Parliament of Whores still stands up well). Then you can get a free subscription to Imprimis, Hillsdale College's mailer, that often has something good.

Posted by: James Varney at September 16, 2018 06:18 PM (Ptg1/)

574 I recently picked up a musty old copy of '30 Seconds Over Tokyo'. Read it. Remind yourself why they're called The Greatest Generation.

Posted by: Anon at September 16, 2018 06:19 PM (JaFtz)

575 The Sorrows of young Werther.

Posted by: Edward at September 16, 2018 06:19 PM (dleWl)

576 The question before the house is to compile a list of five books that could be read and understood by someone whose mind was damaged by passage through the contemporary "educational" system. Here's my five:
1. "From Dawn to Decadence: 500 Years of Western Cultural Life," by Jacques Barzun. The title says it all - a history of western politics and culture between the years 1500 and 2000. I cannot agree with Barzun's infatuation with Napoleon, but with that one caveat, I know of no better survey of our culture in print.
2. "Birth of the Modern: World Society, 1815-1830," by Paul Johnson. A brilliant survey of the advent of "modern" times.
3. "The Oxford History of the American People," by Samuel Eliot Morison. An overview of American history up through World War II, by one of our finest historians.

4. "Abraham Lincoln," by Benjamin Thomas. This is the best one-volume biography of Lincoln that I've seen, and is also a good capsule history of the Civil War. Understanding that war is essential to understanding modern America.
5. "The Making of the Atomic Bomb," by Richard Rhodes. Rhodes brilliantly describes the advent of the Bomb, from the discovery of the atom to the destruction of Hiroshima. In effect, it's a brief history of physics in the first half of the 20th century, and of the weapon that it spawned.
I would supplement these with music: Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven, Berlioz, Brahms, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Rimsky-Korsakov, Tchaikovsky, Vaughn Williams, Debussy ... etc.


Posted by: Brown Line at September 16, 2018 06:51 PM (S6ArX)

577 Good list 576. Don't know about all that classical music, though.

Posted by: James Varney at September 16, 2018 06:55 PM (Ptg1/)

578 and actually the original question called for 25 books at the very reasonable, gut-class level of 5 per year.

Posted by: James Varney at September 16, 2018 06:56 PM (Ptg1/)

579 Starship Troopers (Heinlein)
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (Heinlein)
The Maltese Falcon (Hammet)
The Big Sleep (Chandler)
The Right Stuff (Wolfe)

Posted by: Kristian Holvoet at September 16, 2018 08:22 PM (ihVYB)

580 Everyone needs to read "Gulag Archipelago". It is scary as hell to know what an out of control government is capable of.

If you want your mind blown, read Twain's "Letters from the Earth" . It will make you wonder about whatever you beleive.

Posted by: Sum dum guy at September 16, 2018 08:33 PM (faFC1)

581 The Essential Calvin and Hobbes.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at September 16, 2018 08:42 PM (qHJDl)

582 This Hallowed Ground (Bruce Catton)

Posted by: Greg at September 16, 2018 09:03 PM (2Gdeb)

583 Edmund Burke's speech on reconciliation with America, 1775.

Posted by: MimiStamper at September 16, 2018 09:29 PM (Kpbco)

584 The short stories of Edgar Allan Poe.

The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving.

The Princess Bride by William Goldman.

Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson.

Posted by: Editor at September 16, 2018 09:36 PM (FdjhG)

585 I think reading a biography is a great way to appreciate history, for example:
1. Peter the Great: His Life and World by Robert K. Massie
2. Elizabeth 1 by Anne Somerset
3. A Country of Vast Designs: James K. Polk by Robert W. Merry
4. Washington: A Life by Ron Chernow
5. John Adams by David McCullough
6. Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow
7. Lion of Liberty: Patrick Henry and the Call to a New Nation by Harlow Giles Unger
8. Henry Clay: The Essential American by David S. Heidler
9. American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House
10. Destiny of the Republic: A Tale of Madness, Medicine and the Murder of a President by Candice Millard
11. The First Tycoon: The Epic Life of Cornelius Vanderbilt by T.J. Stiles
12. James J. Hill & The Opening of the Northwest by Albro Martin
13. Coolidge by Amity Shlaes
14. Over the Edge of the World: Magellan's Terrifying Circumnavigation of the Globe by Laurence Bergreen
15. The Cave and the Light: Plato vs. Aristotle by Arthur Herman
16. Cicero: The Life and Times of Rome's Greatest Politician by Anthony Everitt

I also think reading about how the values of the West compare with other cultures is a great way to better understand our world.
17. Shogun by James Clavell (Historical Fiction)
18. Tai-Pan by James Clavell (Historical Fiction)
19. Asia's Cauldron: The South China Sea and the End of a Stable Pacific by Robert D. Kaplan
20. Monsoon: The Indian Ocean and the Future of American Power by Robert D. Kaplan
21. What Went Wrong?: The Clash Between Islam and Modernity in the Middle East by Bernard Lewis
22. Thicker Than Oil: America's Uneasy Partnership with Saudi Arabia by Rachel Bronson
23. The Shia Revival by Vali Nasr
24. Byzantium: The Surprising Life of a Medieval Empire by Judith Herrin
25. The Decline and Fall of the Ottoman Empire by Alan Palmer
26. The Crimean War: A History by Orlando Figes
27. Paris 1919: Six Months That Changed the World by Margaret MacMillan

Posted by: Vercingetorix at September 16, 2018 09:39 PM (mxX3r)

586 Robert Massey's Peter the Great

Posted by: Jdemps at September 16, 2018 10:10 PM (8kqlm)

587 I've been grabbing the audiobooks from LibriVox and listening to them on the way back and for from work.

So far I'm though
Autobiography, by Ben Franklin
Apology by Socrates
Phedo, Socratese
Meditations, Marcus Aurelius,
Assorted Essays, Bacon
Areopagitica by Milton

Next up is Religio Medici

Basically, I've been working my way through the Harvard Classics on Audiobook. I'm probably also going to throw in some Orpheus, so I can understand Shakespeare a bit better too.

Posted by: Voyager at September 16, 2018 11:35 PM (DruXY)

588 Red Sky at Morning, by Richard Bradford. And +1 for Huckleberry Finn, The Right Stuff, and The Essential Calvin and Hobbes.

Posted by: PaddyBeaner at September 17, 2018 12:15 AM (jlmBM)

589 Julius Caesar
Macbeth
The Merchant of Venice
King Lear

Jane Austen

Moby Dick

The Great Gatsby

Red Harvest
The Maltese Falcon
The Thin Man
The Glass Key

I, The Jury

Funeral in Berlin

The Friends of Eddy Coyle
Cogan's Trade
The Rat on Fire
Kennedy for the Defense

Posted by: Wit's End at September 17, 2018 02:34 AM (ROYpB)

590 at post #24, "Hogmartin" recommended "Starship Troopers".
ALL of Heinlein's Science Fiction juveniles are worth reading, even for adults.

As an aside, you can get scads of books on Military History free at US Army Center of Military History.

https://history.army.mil/catalog/browse/title.html

Sometimes the books are slow to download, though, and the download attempt will frequently crash if , in boredom while waiting, you open a second site.

Posted by: Alan D McIntire at September 17, 2018 08:24 AM (PEAAy)

591 Conscience of a Conservative by Barry Goldwater

Posted by: Michael McClain at September 17, 2018 09:04 AM (lz4Mw)

592 Any of Thomas Sowell

Posted by: SarahSue at September 17, 2018 11:18 AM (eJ2ds)

593 Here's the entire list from this thread, likely some duplicates:

Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry 
Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury (now more than ever) 
Witness by Whittaker Chambers 
The Right Stuff by Tom Wolfe 
The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe 
The Boys of Summer by Roger Kahn (maybe the best book ever) 
With The Old Breed by EB Sledge 
1984 by George Orwell 
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley 
The Seven Per Cent Solution by Nicholas Meyer (because it's fun, at least for Sherlock Holmes fans)
The Federalist Papers
- The Call of the Wild
- Lonesome Dove
- Gone With The Wind
- Grapes of Wrath
- On The Road
- Last of the Mohicans
- My Side of the Mountain
- The Liberal Tradition in America ["liberal" here meaning "classical liberal"]
Modern Times, Paul Johnson
A History of the English-Speaking Peoples, Winston Churchill 
...English-Speaking Peoples Since 1900, Andrew Roberts 
Replenishing the Earth, James Belich 
Democracy in the Dominions, Brady Alexander
 The Sleepwalkers, Christopher Clark
Of Mice and Men 
The Old Man and the Sea 
Frankenstein 
Dracula
Camp of the Saints
Patriots (AJ Langguth)
The Daybreakers
65 Endurance, Shackelton's south pole misadventure
David McCullough type Bios/Novels. Just finished The Wright Brothers, good read.
"75 Applied Ballistics for Long Range Shooting by Brian Litz."

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:01 PM (qUYMo)

594 Cont'd

Tolkien
The Loved One," by Evelyn Waugh.
Robert Penn Warren's All the King's Men
Radical Son by David Horowitz
'The Rifle Book', by Jack O'Connor. 
Red Sox Century: The Definitive History of Baseball's Most Storied Franchise, 
Red Sox Nation: The Rich and Colorful History of the Boston Red Sox
A Patriots History of the United States, Schweikart and Allen
"The Sketch Book" by Washington Irving 
"The House of the Seven Gables" by Nathaniel Hawthorne 
"The Frontiersman" by William C. Eckert 
"A Wilderness So Immense" by Stephen Ambrose 
"Silver John the Ballad Singer" by Manly Wade Wellman 
"Roughing It" by Mark Twain 
"Valiant Ambition" by Nathaniel Philbrick 
"Shiloh" by Shelby Foote
Angel in the Whirlwind
History of Russia and the Russians
Lewis and Clark unabridged daily journals. 
A Rabble in Arms  Kenneth L Roberts. 
Heart of Darkness and got to watch Apocalypse Now
The Bible 
Plato's Republic 
The Iliad 
The Odyssey 
Hamlet 
Othello 
Romeo and Juliet 
Julius Caesar 

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:02 PM (qUYMo)

595 Cont'd

Much Ado About Nothing 
Henry IV (Parts 1 and 2) 
The Leviathan 
On Government 
The Wealth of Nations 
The Federalist Papers 
On Liberty 
Moby Dick 
Uncle Tom's Cabin 
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer 
Huckleberry Finn 
Shelby Foote's The Civil War 
The Influence of Sea Power upon History 
A History of the English Speaking Peoples 
The Communist Manifesto 
Mein Kampf 
The Koran (hoping I get an ISWYDT) 
The Guns of August 
The Second World War 
The Best and the Brightest 
Capitalism and Freedom 
On Nuclear War 
The Conscience of a Conservative 
Kissinger: The White House Years 
The Shining 
Salem's Lot 
The Godfather 

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:03 PM (qUYMo)

596 Cont'd
Helter Skelter 
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas 
Give War a Chance 
Righteous Indignation: Excuse Me While I Save the World 
Responsibility and Judgement, Hanna Arendt
Roughing It" by Mark Twain 
The Nine Nations of North America, Joel Garreau 
American Nations, Colin Woodard 
Cultural Regions of the United States, Raymond Gastil 
The Shaping of America, D.W. Meinig (4 vol) 
Regions Apart, E. Grabb and J. Curtis 
The Cops Are Robbers,
Patriot's History of the Modern World for 20th Century. 

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:03 PM (qUYMo)

597 Cont'd

Lonesome dove
The Progressive (ne Public) Broadcasting System has been hyping a program called "The Great American Read" which I have, so far, managed to avoid. 
"With the Od Breed by EB Sledge"
Victor Davis Hanson The Soul of Battle
 Peter Schweizer's Extortion
The Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass
The Comstock Lode
https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/21430140-jerry?shelf=civic-necessity
Anything by Laurence tribe or Paul krugman
Col. Jeff Cooper in Rolf Nelson's book
Shane" 

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:04 PM (qUYMo)

598 Cont'd

"Hondo" 
"Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" (the formula used by the Nazi's in order to gain power is the playbook being used by the left today) 
 "The Killer Angel."
Also, anything by Bruce Catton.
"Profiles in Courage", allegedly by JFK 
"Time Safari" by L. Sprague de Camp 
"The Sun Also Rises" by Ernest Hemingway 
"The Bear" by William Faulkner 
"Falkenberg's Legion" and its sequels by Jerry Pournelle 
"A Streetcar Named Desire" by Tennessee Williams 
"I, the Jury" by Mickey Spillane 
"Patriots" and "Redliners" by David Drake 
Allen Drury: Advise and Consent 
James Gould Cozzens: The Just and the Unjust 
James McPherson: Battle Cry of Freedom 
Robert Caro: The Power Broker 
Whittaker Chambers' Witness 
163 One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
Robert Leckie's "Helmet for my Pillow" 
Dwight D. Eisenhower's "Crusade in Europe" 
Rick Atkinson's Liberation Trilogy 
H.W. Crocker's "Yanks" 

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:04 PM (qUYMo)

599 Cont'd

Samuel Eliot Morison's "History of US Naval Operations in WWII" series (What? It's ONLY 15 volumes!)
Unintended Consequences by John Ross? 
To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth by Jeff Cooper.
On the Origin of Species..., Charles Darwin 
The Eight Wilderness Discovery Books (collection), John Muir 

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:04 PM (qUYMo)

600 Cont'd

Wilderness Warrior, Douglas Brinkley 
Rightful Heritage, Douglas Brinkley 
The Quiet World, Douglas Brinkley
Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War" 
"201 For his pure mastery of the English language, anything by Joseph Conrad, although I particularly like Typhoon and Other Stories as a collection. "
Anne Rice's Interview With a Vampire. 
Henry James' Turn of the Screw

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:05 PM (qUYMo)

601 Cont'd
Bullfinch or Edith Hamilton's Mythology.
norse myth ragnarok
Voyage from Yesteryear by James Hogan.
The Political Theory of the American Founding-Thomas G. West
Ben Franklin s Autobiography 
Churchill's History of the English Speaking people's 
Killer Angel's 
Hemingway's A Farewell to Arms. 
"Scratch Beginnings" - Adam Shepard 
The Two Ocean War. 
Walter Boyne also wrote a good single volume WW2 naval battle summary, called Clash of Titans
Hatchet
258 everything by Raymond Chandler
263 Red Badge of Courage

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:05 PM (qUYMo)

602 Cont'd

Sometimes A Great Notion by Ken Kesey 
Muldoon's Book of Limericks. 
 Sea of Glory (Nathaniel Philbrick)
Cosmos (Carl Sagan)
The Day the Universe Changed and/or Connections (James Burke)
https://www.loa.org/books
the red badge of courage
 I'll add the Lewis and Clark Journals, Memoirs of Ulysses Grant, anything by Eric Sloan, Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin, Jubal Sackett, the Heinlein juveniles, books about the battles of Kings Mountain, Cowpens, and a biography of the Swamp Fox, essays of EB White and the original Conan stories which I consider quintessential American.

Posted by: M at September 17, 2018 08:05 PM (qUYMo)

603 Cont'd

Battle Cry of Freedom
Anabasis
Bill Bennett's "America, The Last Best Hope" (2 volumes) is the best American history I have ever read.
The Human Comedy by Saroyan
Real Ponies Don't Go Oink by Patrick F McManus
Infantry Attacks, by Erwin Rommel
Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin 
Animal Farm 
Federalist Papers 
Oeconomicus - Xenophon 
Ender's Game
Abolition of Man.
Man's Search for Meaning, Viktor Frankl. 
The Courage to Create, Rollo May
The Right Stuff 
Young Men and Fire 
Empire of the Summer Moon 
The Long Grey Line: Westpoint class of '66
treasure island
Mark twain following the equator
Coulter's last book
"Tinker" from Lovejoy
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Gone with the Wind
Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, MacKay, 1835 
Mig Pilot: The Final Escape of Lt. Belenko
"The Gulag Archipelago" -- Solzhenitsyn 
"The Politics of Prudence" -- Kirk
A good book on Mythology ( Bullfinch or Edith Hamilton) 
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius 
The Prince by Machiavelli 
Either Night by Eli Wiesel or Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl 
Gulag Archipelago by Soltzenitzen or We The Living by Rand 
Anything by Jane Austen, Edgar Allan Poe, and HG Wells 
Tolkien 
Carl Becker, The Declaration of Independence 
Camus, The Stranger 
Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby 
Swift's Gulliver's Travels
So, obviously the classics. Let's say 10 every person should read some of: Homer, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Herodotus, Thucydides, Virgil, Livy, Dante, Shakespeare and Cervantes 
Then 10 American novels everyone should read: 
1. The Sound and the Fury - Faulkner 
2. Light in August - Faulkner 
3. Moby Dick - Melville 
4. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Twain 
5. An American Tragedy - Dreiser 
6. Blood Meridian - McCarthy 
7. Henderson the Rain King - Bellow 
8. Bonfire of the Vanities - Wolfe 
9. The Iceman Cometh - O'Neill 
10. The Big Sleep - Chandler 
(Dos Passos' USA trilogy is superb, but that's 3) 
Then 10 European novels 
1. Anna Karenina - Tolstoy 
2. Crime and Punishment - Dostoyevski 
3. The Brothers Karamazov - Dostoyevski 
4. Mysteries - Hamsun 
5. Growth of the Soil - Hamsun 
6. Nostromo - Conrad 
7. The Stranger - Camus 
8. Madame Bovary - Flaubert 
9. Laughter in the Dark - Nabokov 
10. Rabelais 
Finally, 10 "world" literature: 
1. Palace Walk - Mahfouz 
2. The Autumn of the Patriarch - Garcia Marquez 
3. Love in the Time of Cholera - Garcia Marquez 
4. Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter - Vargas Llosa 
5. Capt. Pantoja and the Secret Service - Vargas Llosa 
6. A Bend in the River - Naipaul 
7. Guerrillas - Naipaul 
8. Thousand Cranes - Kawabata 
9. Labyrinths - Borges 
10. P.G. Wodehouse 
1. Road To Serfdom. Friedrich Hayek
2. Liberal Fascism. Jonah Goldberg (before he became a cuck)
3. The Big Lie. Dinesh D'Souza
Michael Connelly is my fav of contemporary authors. 
"True Grit" by Charles Portis.
A Man Called Intrepid by William Stevenson
God and Gold- Walter Russell Mead
Dune
Manly Wade Wellman's stories of "Silver John the Ballad Singer"
Johnny Tremain
Second, his mention @276 above of Joseph Conrad's story "The Duel". Ridley Scott made an excellent movie version of this titled "The Duellists" (1977). Well worth watching.
Toqueville's Democracy in America
 It'd be Johnny Tremain, Mere Christianity, Brave New World, Sowell's Basic Economics, and Bonhoffer's The Cost of Discipleship. 
Year two, probably The Abolition of Man, Animal Farm, Carson's Gifted Hands, Gatto's Dumbing Us Down, and Friedman's Free to Choose. 
Mark Levin has gotten rich on books like that (and they're worth reading) and as I mentioned earlier, P.J. O'Rourke (Parliament of Whores still stands up well). Then you can get a free subscription to Imprimis, Hillsdale College's mailer, that often has something good.
'30 Seconds Over Tokyo'
The Sorrows of young Werther.
1. "From Dawn to Decadence: 500 Years of Western Cultural Life," by Jacques Barzun. The title says it all - a history of western politics and culture between the years 1500 and 2000. I cannot agree with Barzun's infatuation with Napoleon, but with that one caveat, I know of no better survey of our culture in print.
2. "Birth of the Modern: World Society, 1815-1830," by Paul Johnson. A brilliant survey of the advent of "modern" times.
3. "The Oxford History of the American People," by Samuel Eliot Morison. An overview of American history up through World War II, by one of our finest historians.
4. "Abraham Lincoln," by Benjamin Thomas. This is the best one-volume biography of Lincoln that I've seen, and is also a good capsule history of the Civil War. Understanding that war is essential to understanding modern America.
5. "The Making of the Atomic Bomb," by Richard Rhodes. Rhodes brilliantly describes the advent of the Bomb, from the discovery of the atom to the destruction of Hiroshima. In effect, it's a brief history of physics in the first half of the 20th century, and of the weapon that it spawned.
I would supplement these with music: Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven, Berlioz, Brahms, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Rimsky-Korsakov, Tchaikovsky, Vaughn Williams, Debussy ... etc.
Starship Troopers (Heinlein) 
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (Heinlein) 
The Maltese Falcon (Hammet) 
The Big Sleep (Chandler) 
The Right Stuff (Wolfe) 
 Twain's "Letters from the Earth"
This Hallowed Ground (Bruce Catton)
Edmund Burke's speech on reconciliation with America, 1775.
The short stories of Edgar Allan Poe. 
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving. 
The Princess Bride by William Goldman. 
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson. 
I think reading a biography is a great way to appreciate history, for example: 
1. Peter the Great: His Life and World by Robert K. Massie 
2. Elizabeth 1 by Anne Somerset 
3. A Country of Vast Designs: James K. Polk by Robert W. Merry 
4. Washington: A Life by Ron Chernow 
5. John Adams by David McCullough 
6. Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow 
7. Lion of Liberty: Patrick Henry and the Call to a New Nation by Harlow Giles Unger 
8. Henry Clay: The Essential American by David S. Heidler 
9. American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House 
10. Destiny of the Republic: A Tale of Madness, Medicine and the Murder of a President by Candice Millard 
11. The First Tycoon: The Epic Life of Cornelius Vanderbilt by T.J. Stiles 
12. James J. Hill & The Opening of the Northwest by Albro Martin 
13. Coolidge by Amity Shlaes 
14. Over the Edge of the World: Magellan's Terrifying Circumnavigation of the Globe by Laurence Bergreen 
15. The Cave and the Light: Plato vs. Aristotle by Arthur Herman 
16. Cicero: The Life and Times of Rome's Greatest Politician by Anthony Everitt 
I also think reading about how the values of the West compare with other cultures is a great way to better understand our world. 
17. Shogun by James Clavell (Historical Fiction) 
18. Tai-Pan by James Clavell (Historical Fiction) 
19. Asia's Cauldron: The South China Sea and the End of a Stable Pacific by Robert D. Kaplan 
20. Monsoon: The Indian Ocean and the Future of American Power by Robert D. Kaplan 
21. What Went Wrong?: The Clash Between Islam and Modernity in the Middle East by Bernard Lewis 
22. Thicker Than Oil: America's Uneasy Partnership with Saudi Arabia by Rachel Bronson 
23. The Shia Revival by Vali Nasr 
24. Byzantium: The Surprising Life of a Medieval Empire by Judith Herrin 
25. The Decline and Fall of the Ottoman Empire by Alan Palmer 
26. The Crimean War: A History by Orlando Figes 
27. Paris 1919: Six Months That Changed the World by Margaret MacMillan
Robert Massey's Peter the Great 
So far I'm though 
Autobiography, by Ben Franklin 
Apology by Socrates 
Phedo, Socratese 
Meditations, Marcus Aurelius, 
Assorted Essays, Bacon 
Areopagitica by Milton 
Next up is Religio Medici 
Red Sky at Morning, by Richard Bradford
Julius Caesar 
Macbeth 
The Merchant of Venice 
King Lear 
Moby Dick 
Jane Austen 
The Great Gatsby 
Red Harvest 
The Maltese Falcon 
The Thin Man 
The Glass Key 
Funeral in Berlin 
The Friends of Eddy Coyle 
Cogan's Trade 
The Rat on Fire 
Kennedy for the Defense 
I, The Jury 
https://history.army.mil/catalog/browse/title.html 
Conscience of a Conservative by Barry Goldwater

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