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Double Portrait Of A Brother And Sister
Cornelis Ketel

Posted by: CBD at 09:45 AM




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1 Creepy!

Posted by: Publius Redux at September 11, 2018 09:45 AM (Fb9aZ)

2 Moooom, he's touching me!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 11, 2018 09:45 AM (KUaJL)

3 Double Portrait Of A Brother And Sister

Shouldn't there be two of each?

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2018 09:46 AM (xjiRE)

4 Hey a 1st!! I'll get the others!

Posted by: Publius Redux at September 11, 2018 09:46 AM (Fb9aZ)

5 Evil lookin' twins, there.

Posted by: BignJames at September 11, 2018 09:46 AM (0+nbW)

6 I don't understand the coffee filter neck ware.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at September 11, 2018 09:47 AM (jp0Bv)

7 creepy AF

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 11, 2018 09:47 AM (FZYNt)

8 Did they work for the circus?

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2018 09:47 AM (jDF8P)

9 Wednesday and Pugsley Addams, the early years.

Posted by: Publius Redux at September 11, 2018 09:48 AM (Fb9aZ)

10 "Stand still for the portrait painter! And don't you get your good clothes dirty!"

"Awwwwwww mooommmmmm!"

Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 09:48 AM (hLRSq)

11 "You can stuff us into these outfits, but you can't make us smile. "

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 11, 2018 09:48 AM (JSCh5)

12 Stanley Kubrik's version of Stephen King's "The Tudors"

Posted by: Publius Redux at September 11, 2018 09:49 AM (Fb9aZ)

13 Did they work for the circus?
Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2018 09:47 AM (jDF8P)

Kinda. The DNC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2018 09:49 AM (9MKXa)

14 Aww, it's holding a little baby flail.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 09:49 AM (7HtZB)

15 The one on the right (Brother?) looks like he's floating away like an astronaut.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2018 09:49 AM (1+J19)

16 Ok ,which one is the brother or sister?

Posted by: dantesed at September 11, 2018 09:49 AM (88xKn)

17 OK, given that Kavanaugh's confirmation looks solid, how much can I expect to spend on Handmaid's clothes for my wife?

Posted by: George LeS at September 11, 2018 09:49 AM (59GGI)

18

Ketel one, Williams nothing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2018 09:50 AM (G4W16)

19 OK, given that Kavanaugh's confirmation looks solid, how much can I expect to spend on Handmaid's clothes for my wife?
Posted by: George LeS at September 11, 2018 09:49 AM (59GGI)

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Gah.... youre not getting it.

Make her make her own clothes.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 09:50 AM (8XRCm)

20
Once his art business failed, he prospered in the vodka trade.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 11, 2018 09:50 AM (veoSD)

21 Thought bubble: "mom, dad, you know you're headed for the nursing home first chance we get."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 11, 2018 09:50 AM (k1TUh)

22 17 OK, given that Kavanaugh's confirmation looks solid, how much can I expect to spend on Handmaid's clothes for my wife?
Posted by: George LeS at September 11, 2018 09:49 AM (59GGI)


In Kavanaugh world, she has to stitch them herself.

/s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2018 09:50 AM (G4W16)

23 Willowed Regarding Bid Ed, our local University of Oklahoma has been helmed for some 20 years by David Boren, a former Governor and Senator with absolutely no administrive experience outside government (the governor's office is very weak). He could fundraise to beat the band but oversight was not his strong suit.

He recently stepped down and we found out OU was $36MM in debt in spite of the fact that tuition increased 35% over five years and no faculty had received a raise over that period.

The new guy is from the private sector and is immediately bashing heads. Good for him.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 11, 2018 09:50 AM (+Tibp)

24 someday someone will look back on what wewere made to wear as kids for portraits and will say wtf too

Posted by: brak at September 11, 2018 09:51 AM (VckGX)

25 I will shove that motherfucking apple down your motherfucking throat!

Posted by: Serena, The Sister at September 11, 2018 09:51 AM (xSo9G)

26 They're doing it.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2018 09:51 AM (rIQuo)

27 Their clothing is a cruel joke.

Did it occur to no one from this era that they all dressed like twats?

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at September 11, 2018 09:51 AM (ZVFID)

28 21 Thought bubble: "mom, dad, you know you're headed for the nursing home first chance we get."
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 11, 2018 09:50 AM (k1TUh)


*sound of Fidgets entering time machine and winding in Little Rascals film, singing song about Arbor Day*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2018 09:51 AM (G4W16)

29 Got a Village of the Damned vibe going on.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 11, 2018 09:51 AM (NWiLs)

30 18




Ketel one, Williams nothing.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2018 09:50 AM (G4W16)

***Heh.
Speaking as a vodka aficionado: "JJ - I Salute you."

Posted by: Publius Redux at September 11, 2018 09:52 AM (Fb9aZ)

31 They're both wishing all of us into the Cornfield.

Alternate Title - "Young Vladimir, the Carefree Days."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 11, 2018 09:52 AM (k1TUh)

32 16 Ok ,which one is the brother or sister?
Posted by: dantesed at September 11, 2018 09:49 AM (88xKn)

hey no gender typing!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (JFO2v)

33 27 Their clothing is a cruel joke.

Did it occur to no one from this era that they all dressed like twats?
Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at September 11, 2018 09:51 AM (ZVFID)


Haha, yeah, rediculous.

-Dude wearing crocs, designer jeans that came pre-distressed, a plaid shirt, and a man-bun.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (KUaJL)

34 Is that an apple or a peach in the boy's hand?

Posted by: Kris at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (OyyDO)

35
Speaking of art, off to paint in the studio today.

Later, fellow babies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (G4W16)

36 Master Samwise and Rose on their first state visit to the court of King Elessar.

And O/T, daughter's school in Newport News just announced they're shutting down for the storm and sending the kids home.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (Gz1fw)

37
Ok... she's holding a brooch and a flower in her hands.


WTF has the little boy got??? A dog turn and a flintlock??

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (8XRCm)

38 double, as in twins?

or the same person, one on days when SJW parent dresses him like a girl?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2018 09:54 AM (Cus5s)

39 The boy has this expression that says "What are you getting ready to do?" The girl is just waiting for it to be over with.

Posted by: joncelli, toting his gator at September 11, 2018 09:54 AM (RD7QR)

40 "She lost the doggeh!" "He lost the doggeh!"

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 09:54 AM (ty7RM)

41 Speaking of art, off to paint in the studio today.

Later, fellow babies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (G4W16)

What's the subject?

Posted by: Kris at September 11, 2018 09:54 AM (OyyDO)

42 Stanley Kubrik's version of Stephen King's "The Tudors"
Posted by: Publius Redux



More like Billy Barty's version.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2018 09:54 AM (rIQuo)

43 Their clothing is a cruel joke.

Did it occur to no one from this era that they all dressed like twats?
Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at September 11, 2018 09:51 AM (ZVFID)



As you can see by my enormous ruff and my magnificently embroidered codpiece I am not a member of the common rabble.

Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 09:55 AM (hLRSq)

44 Speaking of art, off to paint in the studio today.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (G4W16)



What's the subject?

Posted by: Kris
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In that sentence Kris, I think the *I* is understood.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2018 09:55 AM (vE0fx)

45 What's the subject?
======================
There's a fat, nikkid dude on his settee.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 09:56 AM (ty7RM)

46 Well executed likenesses though you have to wonder how in the world the artist got two young children to stand in a pose long enough to capture them like this. They appear to hold things in all hands except the boy's left one, and there he's almost giving a little finger to the artist. I understand, kid.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Red wave building at September 11, 2018 09:56 AM (CaRQc)

47 Bill Kristol and his sister Rick Wilson.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 11, 2018 09:56 AM (r9UYA)

48 The topic here will inevitably turn back to what day it is, and I think there's a point that needs to be made in that vein.

Before 9/11, the Muslim population of the US could get lost in a rounding error.

Why were the floodgates opened to the Middle East?

This is a reasonable question that deserves an answer, and the lack of a reasonable answer only invites conspiracy theories.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at September 11, 2018 09:56 AM (J+mig)

49 It's to keep them from gnawing their paws. There's a portrait of 6-year-old me wearing a red, white, and blue plaid jacket that's equally as memorable as that ruffled collar getup.

Posted by: Dr. Balle's Huestena at September 11, 2018 09:56 AM (0p/e+)

50 He's wishing he had something heavier to throw than that peach, she's thinking of garroting with that chain...

Posted by: Isaac Chroner at September 11, 2018 09:57 AM (5C0vX)

51 48 The topic here will inevitably turn back to what day it is, and I think there's a point that needs to be made in that vein.

Before 9/11, the Muslim population of the US could get lost in a rounding error.

Why were the floodgates opened to the Middle East?

This is a reasonable question that deserves an answer, and the lack of a reasonable answer only invites conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Cato by Phone at September 11, 2018 09:56 AM (J+mig)

And after 9/11, muslim holidays started appearing on calendars and being observed in public.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 09:58 AM (7HtZB)

52

I'd hit 'em...

Posted by: Harry Reid at September 11, 2018 09:58 AM (7AQC5)

53
Speaking of art, off to paint in the studio today.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (G4W16)







A real man uses a roller.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 11, 2018 09:59 AM (veoSD)

54 It's interesting that the little girl is looking at the viewer straight-on while the boy is in 3/4 profile. More often than not, it's the other way around. The female doesn't look straight on to symbolize her submissiveness or modesty.

Posted by: Kris at September 11, 2018 09:59 AM (OyyDO)

55

Greetings fappers and fappees.

#Neverforget.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2018 10:00 AM (HaL55)

56 According to Wikipedia, this artist painted Queen Elizabeth. So he must have been recognized in his time as pretty good at the painting gig.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Red wave building at September 11, 2018 10:00 AM (CaRQc)

57 There was murder in the children's eyes that day, and the parents then knew that the new wardrobe wasn't favored.

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2018 10:00 AM (2Mnv1)

58 And after 9/11, muslim holidays started appearing on calendars and being observed in public.
Posted by: josephistan

Hell, we elected a muslim as President and he immediately installed a commie-voting muzzie convert as head of CIA. Then he threw the doors open to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 11, 2018 10:01 AM (+Tibp)

59 54 It's interesting that the little girl is looking at the viewer straight-on while the boy is in 3/4 profile. More often than not, it's the other way around. The female doesn't look straight on to symbolize her submissiveness or modesty.
Posted by: Kris at September 11, 2018 09:59 AM (OyyDO)

I think the painter played a joke and put the girl in boy's clothes and boy in girl's clothes. That's why the child on the right looks like he/she is about to go for the viewer's throat. *





*No, I don't think any of this is actually true.

Posted by: joncelli, toting his gator at September 11, 2018 10:01 AM (RD7QR)

60 Is that an apple or a peach in the boy's hand?

Posted by: Kris


Or a rock or a turd ?

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2018 10:01 AM (ome5S)

61 Pulcinella? Harlequin?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 10:01 AM (/qEW2)

62
Is that an apple or a peach in the boy's hand?

Posted by: Kris
________________________

IT'S A PEACH!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at September 11, 2018 10:01 AM (7AQC5)

63 Honey, where's my watch?

Posted by: RobM1981 at September 11, 2018 10:01 AM (qlIZh)

64 TrueRepublican Arnold Schwartzenegger:

Arnold Schwarzenegger congratulates California on legislating clean electricity into being

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:02 AM (+y/Ru)

65 Ahnold was always a big AGW believer even if a nominal R

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:03 AM (mCMQ5)

66 64 TrueRepublican Arnold Schwartzenegger:

Arnold Schwarzenegger congratulates California on legislating clean electricity into being
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:02 AM (+y/Ru)

Jesus, he makes it sound like a bit of conjuring, like pulling a rabbit out of a hat.

Posted by: joncelli, toting his gator at September 11, 2018 10:03 AM (RD7QR)

67 Arnold Schwarzenegger congratulates California on legislating clean electricity into being

That's nice.

Now maybe they can address the POOP in the streets !

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (ome5S)

68 "Hey, Mr. Torrance. Could you open the liquor cabinet and get the Red Rum out for us? Please? Pretty Please? There's this party in room 217 we want to go to. You could come, too! Come on! It'll be fun."

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (9BLnV)

69 "This here dog turd I have in my hand is going right in your face if I have to stand here one more minute in this totally gay, lame-assed get-up!"

Posted by: Bonecrusher at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (JNTt1)

70 Arnold Schwarzenegger congratulates California on legislating clean electricity into being
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:02 AM (+y/Ru)

Jesus, he makes it sound like a bit of conjuring, like pulling a rabbit out of a hat.

-
Ahnode, Trump has a magic wand and you don't.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (+y/Ru)

71 67 Arnold Schwarzenegger congratulates California on legislating clean electricity into being

That's nice.

Now maybe they can address the POOP in the streets !
Posted by: JT at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (ome5S)

Hello, poop!

Posted by: Ed Norton at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (7HtZB)

72 Arnold Schwarzenegger congratulates California on legislating clean electricity into being

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:02 AM (+y/Ru)

Think of all the poor, deprived little girls that never had the pony they wanted. Why shouldn't they have unicorns? Let's legislate unicorns into being. Won't someone think of the children?

Posted by: Cato by Phone at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (J+mig)

73 I love the realism of it. The bored, suspicious looks on the children's faces.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (/qEW2)

74

Why were the floodgates opened to the Middle East?

This is a reasonable question that deserves an answer, and the lack of a reasonable answer only invites conspiracy theories.



The answer is that our so-called "leaders" sided with our avowed enemies and instead of punishing them, they decided that we deplorables were the ones who were somehow responsible. That's why we're treated as potential terrorists virtually everywhere we go in public. Hell, I even saw two soldiers with rather large rifles and no discernable sense of humor at the Alabama game.


We were sold out. "Religion of Peace" my lily white ass...we should've prohibited the construction of any new mosques and done our best to push the death cult of islam back where it came from. It has no place here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2018 10:06 AM (HaL55)

75 This is a reasonable question that deserves an answer, and the lack of a reasonable answer only invites conspiracy theories.
==========================
(Donning tin-foil hat)
There is a nice, mid scale community just to the west of where I live. It was a nice community of ranch homes and good schools. A mosque sprang up there one day, and the entire area was flooded by muzzies. This happened in a matter of 18 months. They have completely taken over the area. I was driving past the day care center out there the other day, and 10's of hijab wearing women were tending their terrorists in waiting. This is coordinated. Police stop traffic on the feeder street to the mosque during services. They have private security inside the mosque, that has a security fence surrounding it. They are taking over the local government, and will ramp that up to the county, then state level. 9/11 was the start of the invasion, it continues apace.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 10:06 AM (ty7RM)

76 I think that the left has a tendency to not only despise the United States but to feel guilty for any feelings they have toward those they think have been historically "exploited" regardless of how evil or murderous they are. So when you had middle eastern filth murder Americans, they immediately responded by asking "Why did we upset them?" We must be nicer! And I feel bad I had any bad feelings about them on 9/11 so let's invite them in and give them tax money! Maybe we can show we're submissive and they can feel better! They literally elected a man named "Hussain" to try to make up for "causing" 9-11 by being "not exploited" westerners. Never forget that the Left HATES Western Civilization because it stands in the way of global redistrbutional communism.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:06 AM (nRWPy)

77 At what age will the one on the right decide it's gender?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 11, 2018 10:06 AM (Nqglq)

78 I'd hit 'em...

Posted by: Harry Reid


...miiiiiiight not be the best turn of phrase for today.

I'll shut up now. This day makes me moodier than usual.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 11, 2018 10:06 AM (AM1GF)

79 67
Arnold Schwarzenegger congratulates California on legislating clean electricity into being



That's nice.



Now maybe they can address the POOP in the streets !

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (ome5S)

VT has been proclaiming how all their electricity produced in state is clean energy. As with VT, ask CA just how much energy they'll need to import from other states to meet the demand. Wind and Solar aren't enough.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2018 10:06 AM (jxbfJ)

80 Hello, poop!

Posted by: Ed Norton


LOL !

I'll set 'em up and you knock 'em down !

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2018 10:06 AM (ome5S)

81 The plucked eyebrows/forehead hair was not a good look. Yikes.

Posted by: Kris at September 11, 2018 10:07 AM (OyyDO)

82 he makes it sound like a bit of conjuring, like pulling a rabbit out of a hat.


That's not a rabbit.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:07 AM (lwiT4)

83 "and this pouch in my left hand I made from your favorite cat. In it are rocks and things so vile I can not even mention them in the presence of my stoopid sister"

Posted by: Bonecrusher at September 11, 2018 10:07 AM (JNTt1)

84 Come on, Trump! You got what you want. Give dose people dere clean powah!

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2018 10:08 AM (2Mnv1)

85 Boy, I don't often agree with Nanzi, but when she's right, she's right!

Pelosi: Dems Need 'New Blood'...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:08 AM (+y/Ru)

86 I'll assume the collars were very practical in that they allowed the wearer to get some sleep on the plane when he had to fly in economy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 11, 2018 10:08 AM (Nqglq)

87 We were sold out. "Religion of Peace" my lily white ass...we should've prohibited the construction of any new mosques and done our best to push the death cult of islam back where it came from. It has no place here.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2018 10:06 AM (HaL55)

Short of amending the Constitution, I don't see that happening.

Posted by: Ed Norton at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (7HtZB)

88
Interesting that Trump could probably have spoken at the Pentagon (pretty secure), or New York (probably not so secure), or Shanksville.

He chose the Flight 93 memorial. His speech should be interesting.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (LOgQ4)

89 Off wacky neighbor sock

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (7HtZB)

90 Hell, we elected a muslim as President and he immediately installed a commie-voting muzzie convert as head of CIA. Then he threw the doors open to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Posted by: Blutarski at September 11, 2018 10:01 AM (+Tibp)

Why do you think no one was allowed to even whisper his middle name, Hussein? If McCain or Palin or one of their spokespeople had mentioned it once or twice in a high-profile setting, the spell might have been broken. I honestly believe that the first time millions of people heard his middle name--even many who voted for him--was on inauguration day.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (NFEMn)

91 I went to the Target at Bailey'ss Crossroads late last Sunday night to buy last minute school supplies. It's about 1.5 miles from the mosque that radicalized Nidal Hasan and housed Anwar Alalaki.

I was the only female in there without a head scarf. Made me want to strip down to my panties and eat raw bacon.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (nRWPy)

92 Haha, yeah, rediculous.



-Dude wearing crocs, designer jeans that came pre-distressed, a plaid shirt, and a man-bun.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 11, 2018 09:53 AM (KUaJL)


Traveling and sitting at an airport (ORD) you see equally ridiculous clothing today. Only a few, but they stand out. Ripped Jeans (probably at a 1000 dollar a pair) odd shirts. So what goes around, comes around in clothing.

Posted by: colin at September 11, 2018 10:10 AM (TJo0f)

93 85 Boy, I don't often agree with Nanzi, but when she's right, she's right!

Pelosi: Dems Need 'New Blood'...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:08 AM (+y/Ru)

Oh, I strongly concur, Nancy. My plan: take Democrats. Exsanguinate them. Then look around for some new blood for them. This stage could take a while, so be patient.

Posted by: joncelli, toting his gator at September 11, 2018 10:10 AM (RD7QR)

94 "I don't understand the coffee filter neck ware."

Keeps 'em from biting/licking themselves.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at September 11, 2018 10:10 AM (VGRuw)

95 Ahnold was always a big AGW believer even if a nominal R
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:03 AM (mCMQ5)

His love child was an experiment he conducted with his Mexican sleeping bag in order to produce clean energy. Ahnold wanted to show that the friction from coitus could produce an unlimited supply of electricity. He failed, of course, but he did get rid of that bow wow Maria Shriver. Cunning plan, Ahnold!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 11, 2018 10:10 AM (9BLnV)

96 >>Hell, we elected a muslim as President and he immediately installed a commie-voting muzzie convert as head of CIA. Then he threw the doors open to the Muslim Brotherhood.



Don't forget Eric Holder, who made sure the DoJ aggressively harassed any city or town who dared to deny a building permit for a mosque.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2018 10:11 AM (W+vEI)

97 We were sold out. "Religion of Peace" my lily white ass...we should've prohibited the construction of any new mosques and done our best to push the death cult of islam back where it came from. It has no place here.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy

Short of amending the Constitution, I don't see that happening.
Posted by: Ed Norton


The Constitution was meant for a specific people, with the assumption of good faith. I fear increasingly it might not be able to survive the influx of alien cultures and general bad faith among "Americans" of dubious intent. And I'm not sure what I think of that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 11, 2018 10:11 AM (AM1GF)

98 I love this. Two young people from a very wealthy family -- they survived infancy; probably a pretty good percentage so showing a jeweled dowry for the girl and the pomegranate for the boy for fertility and health. Don't know if they are twins, if so survival was probably even more remarkable.

Looking at portrait of my grandfather and his brother in full Edwardian lace, crinolines (boys didn't get trousers until 6yo?), and bathed in love and care . . .

Parents love their children.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2018 10:11 AM (MIKMs)

99 I'm thinking those collars will be making a comeback.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 11, 2018 10:11 AM (1ISKN)

100 Interesting that Trump could probably have spoken at the Pentagon (pretty secure), or New York (probably not so secure), or Shanksville.

He chose the Flight 93 memorial. His speech should be interesting.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (LOgQ4)

He should have went to New York. It's HIS city. Let the protesters come out--they would look bad, not him.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:11 AM (NFEMn)

101 Why speak at the Pentagon or NYC? Pennsylvania is a better political choice.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:11 AM (nRWPy)

102 Arnold Schwarzenegger congratulates California on legislating clean electricity into being

That's nice.

Now maybe they can address the POOP in the streets !
Posted by: JT at September 11, 2018 10:05 AM (ome5S)


The whole poop problem is because poop can't biodegrade when it's sitting on concrete or asphalt.

Doesn't SF have any postage stamp parks? Or streets where there are gaps in the sidewalk to grow trees or flowers? If people could be persuaded to defecate on the dirt, the problem would be solved. The nitrogen is good for the plants.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 10:11 AM (/qEW2)

103 >>I was the only female in there without a head scarf. Made me want to strip down to my panties and eat raw bacon.


Seriously. I shopped at that Target when I lived in N. VA. UGH!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2018 10:12 AM (W+vEI)

104 "The female doesn't look straight on to symbolize her submissiveness or modesty."

She is sinless and does not feel shame yet.

Posted by: JAS at September 11, 2018 10:12 AM (3HNOQ)

105 I went to the Target at Bailey'ss Crossroads late last Sunday night to buy last minute school supplies. It's about 1.5 miles from the mosque that radicalized Nidal Hasan and housed Anwar Alalaki.

I was the only female in there without a head scarf. Made me want to strip down to my panties and eat raw bacon.
Posted by: dagny


I'm glad you didn't. I mean, there's no way we could have gotten cameras there in time for it...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 11, 2018 10:12 AM (AM1GF)

106 I have brought this up before; the reason Obama was so sinister isn't the fact he was a Marxist; it's the fact he is an Anti-Imperialist. D'Souza brought this up in "Obama 2016." This is the dominant poli-sophy being peddled in the Academy today. it sounds innocuous, but the core value of Anti-Imperialis is punitive. They feel the offending nation must be punished/destroyed for the sins of the great-great grandfathers. See what's happening in S. Africa today for a preview of coming attaractions.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 10:12 AM (ty7RM)

107 Ahhhh, isn't that sweet. Venezuela is using some of their scarce resources to put on a huge anti-America demonstration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:13 AM (+y/Ru)

108 Before 9/11, the Muslim population of the US could get lost in a rounding error.



Why were the floodgates opened to the Middle East?

it'd be interesting to see the numbers
i feel like when I'm in airports these days I see headscarves and burkhas all the time

Posted by: brak at September 11, 2018 10:13 AM (VckGX)

109 Off wacky neighbor sock

Posted by: josephistan


I'm gonna be laughing all day about that !

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2018 10:13 AM (ome5S)

110 >>He chose the Flight 93 memorial. His speech should be interesting.



Isn't it because that memorial is fairly recent?
The Pentagon one was build in record time, IIRC.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2018 10:13 AM (W+vEI)

111 >>>This stage could take a while, so be patient.<<<
It takes a shitload of abortions at Planned Parenthood to come up with enough blood for a transfusion.

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2018 10:13 AM (2Mnv1)

112 Now I'm hearing every poop discussion in Ahnuld's accent.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:13 AM (7HtZB)

113 Boy, I don't often agree with Nanzi, but when she's right, she's right!

Pelosi: Dems Need 'New Blood'...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:08 AM (+y/Ru)

"That's why we want to keep the open borders and sex trafficking thing going. Hey, who's going to miss all those undocumented migrants? Why, they could've just died in the desert. Hey, pass me that baby's thigh, Maxine."

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 11, 2018 10:13 AM (9BLnV)

114 It's easy to blame Obama for the influx of Muslims--because he IS to blame. But George W. Bush-with his endless "religion of peace' mantra while foolishly trying to win Muslim "hearts and minds" (they have neither, generally) paved the way.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:14 AM (NFEMn)

115 88
Interesting that Trump could probably have spoken at the Pentagon (pretty secure), or New York (probably not so secure), or Shanksville.

He chose the Flight 93 memorial. His speech should be interesting.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (LOgQ4)

I visited all three site before any memorials were constructed. Shanksville, by far, affected me the most. The remoteness, the quiet, the proximity of that lone house. It was about two years later but you could still see some scars in the landscape.

I will never forget.

Posted by: Kris at September 11, 2018 10:14 AM (OyyDO)

116 Short of amending the Constitution, I don't see that happening.

Posted by: Ed Norton at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (7HtZB)

Proposed Amendment:

Whereas the concept of totalitarianism is the antithesis and negation of the individual liberty the United States was founded upon, all ideologies that call for a small group to wield absolute power, whether secular or religious in nature, are hereby banned. This shall include all Collectivist parties (Communist, Socialist, and Fascist), and all faiths that call for the institution of theocratic rule. Adherents of these ideologies are to be exiled to a country that espouses it.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at September 11, 2018 10:14 AM (J+mig)

117 110 >>He chose the Flight 93 memorial. His speech should be interesting.



Isn't it because that memorial is fairly recent?
The Pentagon one was build in record time, IIRC.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2018 10:13 AM (W+vEI)

The "Tower of Voices" memorial was just installed this past weekend, I believe.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:15 AM (7HtZB)

118 South Africa going full Chicago.

SAfrica 'close to war zone' with 57 murders a day...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)

119 "This is coordinated. They are
taking over the local government, and will ramp that up to the county,
then state level. 9/11 was the start of the invasion, it continues
apace.Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
yeah, they are given their enclaves, many are paid directly by government. iirc, it is not even welfare, just some sort of "resettlement" payment. wtf
Mixing of cultures is what enemies do when they conquer a nation, though maybe they used to kill all the males, if they didn't march everyone to some foreign land (trail of tears).
Our culture clash is a deliberate enemy (of the state) action.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2018 10:15 AM (Cus5s)

120 Big Head Todd and the sister

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2018 10:16 AM (IqV8l)

121 Looking at portrait of my grandfather and his brother in full Edwardian lace, crinolines (boys didn't get trousers until 6yo?), and bathed in love and care . . .

Parents love their children.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2018 10:11 AM (MIKMs)


They're being conditioned to love illegal aliens more. I'm coming to the cynical conclusion that leftists can be conditioned into believing/feeling anything. That's why they think everyone else can as well.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 10:16 AM (/qEW2)

122 My whole house shook when the fuel exploded at the Pentagon. The smell lasted over a week.

Jim Moran (D-drunk) was on the floor of the House defending muslims the next morning while the Pentagon in his district was still smoking.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:17 AM (nRWPy)

123 The biggest,most destructive and expensive hoaxes foisted on the world come from"environmentalists".DDT banning ,Ozone hole,AGW or as it is now lnow "climate change".

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:17 AM (mCMQ5)

124
import enough 3rd world tribalistic people and you won't have that pesky constitution in the way of your global socialist utopia

Posted by: brak at September 11, 2018 10:17 AM (VckGX)

125
One thing I'll bet Osama Bin Ladin never anticipated in response to the 911 attacks.

The American Left bending over backwards to kiss Islams ass.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:18 AM (8XRCm)

126 Grr.

The senior management and officers at my work, for the past 16 years, has had a moment of silence the morning of 9/11. An announcement over the address system, and respectful silence that pretty much carried the balance of the morning.

Today....nothing. No announcement. No nothing. Millennials worried about stupid crap.

I'm unhappy.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 11, 2018 10:18 AM (tVWQB)

127 This is a reasonable question that deserves an answer, and the lack of a reasonable answer only invites conspiracy theories.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at September 11, 2018 09:56 AM (J+mig)


A related question, does your county or city have more mosques/madrassas now than before 9/11/2001? If so, why?

I'm 9/11'd out

Never forget,
Never ever forget!

Posted by: Chairman Hrothgar at September 11, 2018 10:18 AM (n9EOP)

128 Made me want to strip down to my panties and eat raw bacon.
Posted by: dagny
----
How you doin?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2018 10:18 AM (vE0fx)

129 I was the only female in there without a head scarf. Made me want to strip down to my panties and eat raw bacon.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (nRWPy)


This needs to be a national holiday. "Moron Day: Bikinis and Bacon."

Posted by: pookysgirl at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (XKZwp)

130 All the left wing run states just keep doubling down on stupid.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (mCMQ5)

131 South Africa going full Chicago.

SAfrica 'close to war zone' with 57 murders a day...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



With those numbers, SA has surpassed Chicago.
Seems they actually aim in SA.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (rIQuo)

132 Imagine if Trump was president on 9/11? All immigration from Muslim countries would have stopped on that day--and no one would have said a word.

And then parts of the Mid East would have been turned to glass.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (NFEMn)

133 114 It's easy to blame Obama for the influx of Muslims--because he IS to blame. But George W. Bush-with his endless "religion of peace' mantra while foolishly trying to win Muslim "hearts and minds" (they have neither, generally) paved the way.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:14 AM (NFEMn)

If you look at the Religion of Peace statement, it was only made during the run up to the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom . Whether one agrees with it or not, it was a strategic statement for a number of reasons.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (2DOZq)

134

The Constitution was meant for a specific people, with the assumption of good faith.

You've hit the nail on the head.

Has anyone else noticed that the default position of pretty much everyone on the political left is to assume a malevolent intent in every situation? They're the most perpetually gloomy and dissatisfied people who automatically assume the worst traits in their fellow humans.

This overt negativity is psychologically damaging and their fantasy world wherein everyone is an asshole except them appears to be consuming them. Yeah, life sucks for the most part and there are some people who are as they think, but not everyone is like that.

They're like that character in the old Lil' Abner comics Joe Btfsplk, the guy who walked around under the storm cloud and always looked at the bad side of everything.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (HaL55)

135 115 88
Interesting that Trump could probably have spoken at the Pentagon (pretty secure), or New York (probably not so secure), or Shanksville.

He chose the Flight 93 memorial. His speech should be interesting.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (LOgQ4)

I visited all three site before any memorials were constructed. Shanksville, by far, affected me the most. The remoteness, the quiet, the proximity of that lone house. It was about two years later but you could still see some scars in the landscape.

I will never forget.
Posted by: Kris at September 11, 2018 10:14 AM (OyyDO)

I had a bus trip to NY scheduled for late Septemeber 2001, so I visited Ground Zero just two weeks or so after 9/11. I got as far as Canal, IIRC, before being stopped by the police perimeter. I could see the twisted metal skeleton and still smell that unique Ground Zero stench of jet fuel, ash, and death. A young Israeli man was near my group and he cried out to us "We tried to tell you! This is what we face every day! Why won't you let us fight them?"

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (7HtZB)

136 Why were the floodgates opened to the Middle East?
Posted by: Cato by Phone at September 11, 2018 09:56 AM (J+mig)
~~~~~

Someone told me once that western nations thought that since there were a gazillion muslims in the world, and there was no way we could kill them all, the best way to deal with them would be to have them immigrate to free countries, in the hope that they would see how much better life was, and drop the suicide belts, yadda yadda yadda. Stupid, stupid idea, but it might have been W's thinking.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 11, 2018 10:20 AM (Ri0Ku)

137 132 Imagine if Trump was president on 9/11? All immigration from Muslim countries would have stopped on that day--and no one would have said a word.

And then parts of the Mid East would have been turned to glass.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (NFEMn)

You mean Trump who was against attacking Iraq?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:20 AM (2DOZq)

138 I have brought this up before; the reason Obama was so sinister isn't the fact he was a Marxist; it's the fact he is an Anti-Imperialist. D'Souza brought this up in "Obama 2016." This is the dominant poli-sophy being peddled in the Academy today. it sounds innocuous, but the core value of Anti-Imperialis is punitive. They feel the offending nation must be punished/destroyed for the sins of the great-great grandfathers. See what's happening in S. Africa today for a preview of coming attaractions.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 10:12 AM (ty7RM)

Not really. They want their own imperium, based on debt slavery and fiat currency manipulation. They just have to overthrow the individual nations first and make a worldwide empire. So, you can''t really say they are anti-imperial. Empire OK for me, not for thee.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 11, 2018 10:20 AM (9BLnV)

139 All the left wing run states just keep doubling down on stupid.
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (mCMQ5)

Exactly. They are constantly upping the ante with their continuous push back against anything Trump wants to do.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:21 AM (NFEMn)

140 I've found the commentary on 9/11 deeply moving.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:21 AM (nBr1j)

141 So this is what goblins looked like in Europe?

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 11, 2018 10:21 AM (2LelM)

142 Undoubtedly there are more muslims in the country than prior to 9/11/01.Misguided and I believe malicious "refugee" settlement to blame.More muslims means more mosques.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:21 AM (mCMQ5)

143 133 114 It's easy to blame Obama for the influx of Muslims--because he IS to blame. But George W. Bush-with his endless "religion of peace' mantra while foolishly trying to win Muslim "hearts and minds" (they have neither, generally) paved the way.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:14 AM (NFEMn)

If you look at the Religion of Peace statement, it was only made during the run up to the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom . Whether one agrees with it or not, it was a strategic statement for a number of reasons.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (2DOZq)

The phrase was "islam means peace" - which is bullshit, it means "submission" - and I'm pretty sure W said it just a few days after 9/11, in one of the first addresses to Congress.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:22 AM (7HtZB)

144 It's unconstitutional to criticize the press!

HOUSTON CHRONICLE reporter resigns after accused of making up interviews...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:22 AM (+y/Ru)

145 One thing I'll bet Osama Bin Ladin never anticipated in response to the 911 attacks.

The American Left bending over backwards to kiss Islams ass.
Posted by: fixerupper


I wonder if paradise is like the goatfucker thought.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2018 10:22 AM (rIQuo)

146 Since Islam comes with a political system baked into it I don't believe it is Constitutionally protected like other religions.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:22 AM (mCMQ5)

147 Be prepared to start hearing about chemical attacks in Syria on every deep state outlet today. I hope Trump doesn't fall for it.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (CQ3Qb)

148 AtC has a brother?

Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (Bdeb0)

149 You mean Trump who was against attacking Iraq?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:20 AM (2DOZq)

He wasn't president when he said it. And come to think of it, Iraq was a waste. We should have killed a lot of people, but not the way Bush and his regime went about it. They tried t make Iraq a Democratic state.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (NFEMn)

150
The Constitution was meant for a specific people, with the assumption of good faith.

You've hit the nail on the head.

Has anyone else noticed that the default position of pretty much everyone on the political left is to assume a malevolent intent in every situation? They're the most perpetually gloomy and dissatisfied people who automatically assume the worst traits in their fellow humans.

This overt negativity is psychologically damaging and their fantasy world wherein everyone is an asshole except them appears to be consuming them. Yeah, life sucks for the most part and there are some people who are as they think, but not everyone is like that.

They're like that character in the old Lil' Abner comics Joe Btfsplk, the guy who walked around under the storm cloud and always looked at the bad side of everything.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (HaL55)

The world of the left is a deeply unhappy world. And they want to impose their anger and depression on others.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (nBr1j)

151
AtC has a brother?
Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (Bdeb0)

------

Shut er down boys.

Threadwinner right there.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (8XRCm)

152 146 Since Islam comes with a political system baked into it I don't believe it is Constitutionally protected like other religions.
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:22 AM (mCMQ5)

It's an imperialistic political ideology first and a religion twenty-ninth.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (J+mig)

153
One thing I'll bet Osama Bin Ladin never anticipated in response to the 911 attacks.

The American Left bending over backwards to kiss Islams ass.
Posted by: fixerupper


Weak horse

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2018 10:24 AM (IqV8l)

154 Former PA Gov. Mark Schweiker at Shanksville.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:24 AM (aK8Pt)

155 Sadly Glenn Reynolds predictions from the day it happened came true.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/307145/

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:25 AM (mCMQ5)

156 "Our college students aren't old enough to remember what happened here." (Schweiker)

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:26 AM (aK8Pt)

157 Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (NFEMn)

Let's just say I disagree and leave it at that.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:26 AM (2DOZq)

158 Since Islam comes with a political system baked into it I don't believe it is Constitutionally protected like other religions.
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:22 AM (mCMQ5)

I agree with you, but unfortunately, slick lawyers will say that all religions have political aims.
The only way to stop the rising influence of Islam in our country was through immigration---and look what a fight they put up against simple TEMPORARY band from certain countries.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:26 AM (NFEMn)

159 The Atlantic did an interview with Obama where he said that he felt like the terrorists were terrorizing because they were poor.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:26 AM (nRWPy)

160 >>"This is coordinated. They are taking over the local government, and will ramp that up to the county, then state level. 9/11 was the start of the invasion, it continues apace



The Cenk Ugyer PAC/Remake 528 PACs are the Bernie acolyte candidate originators --- and it seems like many of their candidates are muslims, such as Ammar Campa-Najjar, Ilan Omar, Ayana Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib.

Linda Sarsour is actively involved, including working on the campaign for the muslim gubernatorial candidate in MI, Abdul El Sayed (he lost the primary). The muslim activists have effectively burrowed themselves in these progressive/socialist groups.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (W+vEI)

161 149 You mean Trump who was against attacking Iraq?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:20 AM (2DOZq)

He wasn't president when he said it. And come to think of it, Iraq was a waste. We should have killed a lot of people, but not the way Bush and his regime went about it. They tried t make Iraq a Democratic state.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (NFEMn)

After 17 years in Afghanistan, I really think we should have nuked the place. We nuked Japan so we wouldn't have to fight a protracted war against religious fanatics, we should have done the same then. Respond to a mass casualty attack like 9/11 in kind.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (7HtZB)

162 Since Islam comes with a political system baked into it I don't believe it is Constitutionally protected like other religions.
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:22 AM (mCMQ5)

Islam is a system of belief, or an ideology, not a race. There's nothing racist about rejecting that ideology.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (nBr1j)

163 Schweiker is going to be a hard act to follow.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (aK8Pt)

164 The Atlantic did an interview with Obama where he said that he felt like
the terrorists were terrorizing because they were poor.



Even he isn't stupid enough to believe that.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (lwiT4)

165 Imagine if Trump was president on 9/11? All
immigration from Muslim countries would have stopped on that day--and
no one would have said a word.



And then parts of the Mid East would have been turned to glass.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (NFEMn)


I would have pushed that button with my dick and giggled myself to sleep.



Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (9Om/r)

166 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 10:06 AM (ty7RM)

Last week I had my dog, Teddy, at a dog park and he started playing with this Italian Greyhound belonging to a tall dark haired woman I guess in her 20s (as I get older my ability to guess ages has gone completely in the shitter) who was attractive and friendly. Her dog's name was (phonetically) No-eee which she told me was an Icelandic name. With her not being a blonde I asked her skeptically if she was from Iceland and she said from Bosnia. That was a first and an answer I wasn't expecting. After a pause I asked her, while saying I hoped this wasn't offensive, if she was a Bosnian Serb or Croat and she said Muslim. That was the second time I was rocked with no quick response. I ended up saying that she and her family got to personally experience the worthlessness of the UN.

I guess I have to trust my instincts and think that she's an assimilated good person but there's a part of me that's still uneasy.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 11, 2018 10:28 AM (y7DUB)

167 on a happier note, Kasich said McCain was "put to death".
https://tinyurl.com/y7shzjku

That gave rise to rumors that McCain was tried at Gitmo for his crimes, and faced death.
here is Graham-Kavanaugh on "the law and war".
American citizens that collaborate with the enemy can be considered enemy combatants (under Supreme Court precedent, tried by the military)https://tinyurl.com/yao4knsu

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2018 10:28 AM (Cus5s)

168 One thing I'll bet Osama Bin Ladin never anticipated in response to the 911 attacks.

The American Left bending over backwards to kiss Islams ass.
Posted by: fixerupper

Not even osama would believe the left is that stupid. But at least they did not fall into the trap set by the russians to fuck with out election? LMAO. Fuckin idiots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2018 10:28 AM (9MKXa)

169 O/T It's a sunny 68 degrees here (finally!), and I thought I heard rain hitting my deck. I looked outside, and there were black walnut husks raining down courtesy of hyperactive squirrels. I can blow the deck off once a day, and it's littered with shards of walnuts the next day. I wonder if this is the harbinger of a severe winter.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (ty7RM)

170 I'm over defending the Bushes for anything. They can screw themselves.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (nRWPy)

171 Let's just say I disagree and leave it at that.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:26 AM (2DOZq)

No, I admit I'm being retrospective. I was totally in favor of what we were trying to do at that time. But I'm sour on that now. And I'm sour on that phony Bush.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (NFEMn)

172 Zuck sees himself as Caesar Augustus.

https://cnb.cx/2NyZidN

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (+y/Ru)

173 138 I have brought this up before; the reason Obama was so sinister isn't the fact he was a Marxist; it's the fact he is an Anti-Imperialist. D'Souza brought this up in "Obama 2016." This is the dominant poli-sophy being peddled in the Academy today. it sounds innocuous, but the core value of Anti-Imperialis is punitive. They feel the offending nation must be punished/destroyed for the sins of the great-great grandfathers. See what's happening in S. Africa today for a preview of coming attaractions.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 10:12 AM (ty7RM)

Not really. They want their own imperium, based on debt slavery and fiat currency manipulation. They just have to overthrow the individual nations first and make a worldwide empire. So, you can''t really say they are anti-imperial. Empire OK for me, not for thee.
-------------------
Obama is scion of two generations of hard left CIA operatives. The Dunham's were recruited and sent to Hawaii to entertain and make comfortable all those available leftists in newly independent colonies in Asia and Africa. The focus was to remove as much leftist tender from Soviet recruitment to insure American control of strategic Asian/African seaports, minerals and oil. Hawaii was chosen as a conducive American locale that was totes multicultural. The University of Hawaii was the excuse to wine and dine upcoming exotic revolutionaries and give them education (or to determine their real political beliefs and appetites). Grandpa was set up as a furniture store owner while grandma ran CIA money to front groups in country. This is where Obama comes from - so no big surprise he and Brennan hit it off immediately.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (2LelM)

174 Two years ago, bring my daughter home from college, we stopped at the Shanksville site. Very out of the way, rural. Driving in, I wondered what the locals thought and experienced that day when that jetliner plummeted to the earth nearby.
Looking out over the where the impact crater was, you can't help but tear up. So quiet, so peaceful, yet a place where tragedy occurred. Seeing mementos, flowers, Rosaries left along the walkway.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (jxbfJ)

175
The Atlantic did an interview with Obama where he said that he felt like the terrorists were terrorizing because they were poor.

----

And he would be wrong.

Osama's family is worth billion. Atta's from a wealthy family. Kahlid Sheik Mohammed is from a wealthy family. Gitmo is/was full of educated terrorists, some receiving degrees in the States.

Iraq was magnet for foreign fighters with the means to arms themselves and travel to Iraq.

The Kenya-Konan blend is wrong.... again.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (8XRCm)

176 After 17 years in Afghanistan, I really think we
should have nuked the place. We nuked Japan so we wouldn't have to fight
a protracted war against religious fanatics, we should have done the
same then. Respond to a mass casualty attack like 9/11 in kind.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (7HtZB)

How would Afghanistan be any different after nuking it? The place already looks like it was nuked and has for centuries. We should've left that region to the Russians.The reason we can't win wars in the Middle East is because there's no political will to carpet bomb and kill everything alive over there. There aren't any good guys left in those places, they're beyond salvage.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (CQ3Qb)

177 I'm over defending the Bushes for anything. They can screw themselves.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (nRWPy)

This accurately describes my thoughts on the Bushes.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:30 AM (NFEMn)

178 Wakes up.
Scratches.
Looks around.
Wow. AtC and her brother!
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 11, 2018 10:30 AM (0tfLf)

179 The world of the left is a deeply unhappy world. And they want to impose their anger and depression on others.

-------------

People without God in their lives tend to be unhappy. There is a deep longing in them that is not getting satisfied.

Posted by: SH at September 11, 2018 10:30 AM (sX1BW)

180 I heard Commissar Hogg's comments in Toronto. What a vapid. brainless twat. Then I thought there really isn't much difference between Hogg and Barry.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2018 10:31 AM (OLCnA)

181 Circus Midgets.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 11, 2018 10:31 AM (UnA8+)

182 Islam is a system of belief, or an ideology, not a race. There's nothing racist about rejecting that ideology.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (nBr1j)

THIS.

I've made this point a million times. Persians are Caucasian. North Africans and Arabs are Semites, which are also Caucasian groups.

Rejecting Islam is not racist, because Muslim is not a race.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at September 11, 2018 10:31 AM (J+mig)

183
Children of the Corn by a guy named Ketel? I guess you could call it Ketel corn.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 11, 2018 10:31 AM (PtOP4)

184 138 I have brought this up before; the reason Obama was so sinister isn't the fact he was a Marxist; it's the fact he is an Anti-Imperialist. D'Souza brought this up in "Obama 2016." This is the dominant poli-sophy being peddled in the Academy today. it sounds innocuous, but the core value of Anti-Imperialis is punitive. They feel the offending nation must be punished/destroyed for the sins of the great-great grandfathers. See what's happening in S. Africa today for a preview of coming attaractions.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 10:12 AM (ty7RM)

Not really. They want their own imperium, based on debt slavery and fiat currency manipulation. They just have to overthrow the individual nations first and make a worldwide empire. So, you can''t really say they are anti-imperial. Empire OK for me, not for thee.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 11, 2018 10:20 AM (9BLnV)


The "anti-colonialists" don't seem to have a problem with Western nations being colonized by the Third World.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2018 10:31 AM (xjiRE)

185 The Atlantic did an interview with Obama where he said that he felt like
the terrorists were terrorizing because they were poor.



Even he isn't stupid enough to believe that.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (lwiT4)


I never thought Slick was a very good liar, probably because I've dealt with trash like him for a long time, but Cock Curious is much worse.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 11, 2018 10:31 AM (y7DUB)

186 I'm watching The Path to 9/11 on Youtube. What a fucking crime the Clintons inflicted on the American people. Absolute worthless human beings.

Posted by: Timon at September 11, 2018 10:32 AM (eiZez)

187 Wait.

Is someone (Kasich) really trying to make McCain a martyr....?


Really?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 11, 2018 10:32 AM (tVWQB)

188 Illiniwek, just when I think Katshit can do nothing additionally to cause me to despise him more deeply, he does!

He is the shit that just keeps giving!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2018 10:32 AM (Hb/ve)

189 After 17 years in Afghanistan, I really think we should have nuked the place. We nuked Japan so we wouldn't have to fight a protracted war against religious fanatics, we should have done the same then. Respond to a mass casualty attack like 9/11 in kind.

Posted by: josephistan


Afghanistan isn't a nation in the sense we know. It's a tribal region with a couple of city-states thrown in that just gets treated like a nation for convenience. Standard, modern rules of warfare just don't work out well there.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 11, 2018 10:32 AM (AM1GF)

190

I'm coming to the cynical conclusion that leftists can be conditioned into believing/feeling anything. That's why they think everyone else can as well.


I'ma gonna get all psychological again today because there's a gaggle of mental pathologies at work, IMO.

Those people you refer to have no inner compass, no conscience to guide them and tell them what is right or wrong. Hence, they look constantly outside of themselves for answers to problems which, as we've seen for years, are almost always wrong. The loudest mistaken take on any situation is what they tend to follow and believe, until another loud mistake overtakes the previous one.


In other words, we're talking about people who are easily led and who will believe anything if it's repeated often enough. They are easily brainwashed. Evidence of this is the fact that Leftards will repeat any slogan they hear word for word. If you ask them what that means, you'll get a blank stare and no explanation, no depth to their argument and no solution to a problem.


It's precisely this type of intellectual weakness that needs to be kept far away from any sort of power or decision-making.

Oh, and if you dare to let your conscience be your guide, those outer-directed people will hate you with the heat of a thousand suns because you've ripped their mask off and revealed them to be shallow weaklings, something their egos cannot tolerate.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2018 10:32 AM (HaL55)

191 Has anyone else noticed that the default position of pretty much everyone on the political left is to assume a malevolent intent in every situation? They're the most perpetually gloomy and dissatisfied people who automatically assume the worst traits in their fellow humans.

I disagree BB. You're giving them far to much credit as regards sincerity. It's all rhetorical posturing. They are knowingly slandering people in order to advance their agenda.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 10:32 AM (/qEW2)

192 How would Afghanistan be any different after nuking it? The place already looks like it was nuked and has for centuries. We should've left that region to the Russians.The reason we can't win wars in the Middle East is because there's no political will to carpet bomb and kill everything alive over there. There aren't any good guys left in those places, they're beyond salvage.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

How do you drag a country into the 21st century when they refuse to be dragged into the 12th?

Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at September 11, 2018 10:32 AM (Bdeb0)

193 The thing about muslims is that they might be assimilated and friendly....until suddenly they aren't.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (mCMQ5)

194 The reason we can't win wars in the Middle East is because there's no political will to carpet bomb and kill everything alive over there.

------------

Perhaps we should have a found a country from which we could exercise hegemony over the region from a relatively safe place. Keep those savages in their caves with frequent bombing runs.

Posted by: SH at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (sX1BW)

195 The Atlantic did an interview with Obama where he said that he felt like the terrorists were terrorizing because they were poor.
Posted by: dagny

Bin goat humper was worth millions.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (rIQuo)

196 Mika and Joe, the early years.




Those collars served as a little race track for all the body lice.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (bML9A)

197 Islam is a system of belief, or an ideology, not a race.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:27 AM (nBr1j)


It is a revolutionary political philosophy that uses an ersatz religion to control its adherents.

It is no different than National Socialism or International Socialism.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2018 10:34 AM (wYseH)

198 187 Wait.

Is someone (Kasich) really trying to make McCain a martyr....?


Really?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 11, 2018 10:32 AM (tVWQB)

I think kasich was saying that McCain was probably "put down" at the end rather than left to suffer further. Or not. Who knows?

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:34 AM (7HtZB)

199 Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

SNOW ON THE SAVANNAH Giraffes and elephants wander about in the snow after freak blizzards hit Africa

https://bit.ly/2N4Xvh7

Photo at link.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:34 AM (+y/Ru)

200 The Soviets created Islamic terrorism.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:35 AM (mCMQ5)

201
SNOW ON THE SAVANNAH Giraffes and elephants wander about in the snow after freak blizzards hit Africa

-------

Cold..... where it's hot.

GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:35 AM (8XRCm)

202 The Atlantic did an interview with Obama where he said that he felt like

the terrorists were terrorizing because they were poor.


Barack Obama. Wrong...AGAIN!!!

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2018 10:35 AM (jDF8P)

203 Two years ago, bring my daughter home from college, we stopped at the Shanksville site. Very out of the way, rural. Driving in, I wondered what the locals thought and experienced that day when that jetliner plummeted to the earth nearby.
Looking out over the where the impact crater was, you can't help but tear up. So quiet, so peaceful, yet a place where tragedy occurred. Seeing mementos, flowers, Rosaries left along the walkway.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (jxbfJ)

100 years from now it will come out that we shot that plane down. We probably couldn't handle that truth now.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:35 AM (NFEMn)

204 I have a nutty friend who says McCain took the "Rommel option".

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (mCMQ5)

205 Looking out over the where the impact crater was, you can't help but tear up. So quiet, so peaceful, yet a place where tragedy occurred. Seeing mementos, flowers, Rosaries left along the walkway.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed


And yet...when you think about it...it was our first victory. A Pyrrhic one, a great sacrifice, but that one didn't hit its target.

And not because our "elites" acted. Because average people in a nightmare scenario stepped up.

There's a lesson there. Nobody seems to be learning it yet.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (AM1GF)

206 I'm over defending the Bushes for anything. They can screw themselves.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (nRWPy)



Yep. Eight years of dead silence while Oblahblah systematically destroyed the culture, but he just has to shoot his mouth off about Trump's supposed intolerance.

Just STFU, Chimpy. That goes for your idiot brother too.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (Nqglq)

207 The thing about muslims is that they might be assimilated and friendly....until suddenly they aren't.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (mCMQ5)



Yes. I am becoming increasingly worried about this. I have a family member married to a muslim. Recently, following a family gathering, my son pulled me aside and cautioned me. He said that this family member, who seems completely and totally Westernized, had made some statements that --- weren't.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (lwiT4)

208 I'm over defending the Bushes for anything. They can screw themselves.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (nRWPy)

This accurately describes my thoughts on the Bushes.
Posted by: JoeF



Add me.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (rIQuo)

209 Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at September 11, 2018 10:32 AM (Bdeb0)

They were never going to be anything but a third world country but they were at one time fairly innocuous and not as primitive prior to the Russians and the Taliban. The book The Kite Runner ( and movie) shows how far they fell ( didn't seem possible there was room to fall further) .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (2DOZq)

210 194 Perhaps we should have a found a country from which we could exercise hegemony over the region from a relatively safe place. Keep those savages in their caves with frequent bombing runs.
Posted by: SH at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (sX1BW)

*looks at the ruins of Iraq, shrugs*

Posted by: Hikaru at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (UnA8+)

211 201
SNOW ON THE SAVANNAH Giraffes and elephants wander about in the snow after freak blizzards hit Africa
---------------------------------------------------------------

Something tells me that Elephants can survive a temporary two-inch snowfall.....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (NFEMn)

212 The thing about muslims is that they might be assimilated and friendly....until suddenly they aren't.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (mCMQ5)



Yes. I am becoming increasingly worried about this. I have a family member married to a muslim. Recently, following a family gathering, my son pulled me aside and cautioned me. He said that this family member, who seems completely and totally Westernized, had made some statements that --- weren't.
Posted by: grammie winger


San Bernardino.


Mic drop

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2018 10:37 AM (rIQuo)

213 There's a rational explanation to much of the problems with Islam but it will never be discussed in our current climate: inbreeding.
Here's a must read from pjmedia, very well sourced with shocking statistics: https://tinyurl.com/j58cmkv
Over 70% of all Pakistani's are inbred and 30-40% are in Turkey. Those are just the stats we know about. Inbreeding causes severe aggression and many other birth defects that will doom the socialist healthcare societies that are importing them by the millions.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 11, 2018 10:38 AM (CQ3Qb)

214 206 I'm over defending the Bushes for anything. They can screw themselves.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (nRWPy)


Yep. Eight years of dead silence while Oblahblah systematically destroyed the culture, but he just has to shoot his mouth off about Trump's supposed intolerance.

Just STFU, Chimpy. That goes for your idiot brother too.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (Nqglq)

Where is he shooting his mouth off? You guys keep saying it but never post what he's said.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:38 AM (2DOZq)

215 194 Perhaps we should have a found a country from which we could exercise hegemony over the region from a relatively safe place. Keep those savages in their caves with frequent bombing runs.
Posted by: SH at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (sX1BW)

*looks at the ruins of Iraq, shrugs*

------------

I know I'm in the ever shrinking minority on this.

Posted by: SH at September 11, 2018 10:38 AM (sX1BW)

216 I think kasich was saying that McCain was probably "put down" at the end rather than left to suffer further. Or not. Who knows?
Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:34 AM (7HtZB)


Every fucking thing that goof says confuses people with what he really means. In short, the perfect GOPe science project.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 11, 2018 10:38 AM (y7DUB)

217 "Obama where he said that he felt like
the terrorists were terrorizing because they were poor."
then they should have risen up against their own sheiks, who are rolling in dough.

Instead the Saudis took in no Muslim refugees, but offered to build 300 mosques in Germany. They seem to be all about the outreach (conquering).

We hope Trump has changed some of that with his sword dance, but those trying to divide us and infiltrate us are fighting tooth and nail (bomb).

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2018 10:39 AM (Cus5s)

218 203 Tin foil much?

Posted by: rammajamma at September 11, 2018 10:39 AM (AjNMO)

219 206
I'm over defending the Bushes for anything. They can screw themselves.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (nRWPy)





Yep. Eight years of dead silence while Oblahblah systematically
destroyed the culture, but he just has to shoot his mouth off about
Trump's supposed intolerance.



Just STFU, Chimpy. That goes for your idiot brother too.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (Nqglq)

We'll clap when they do STFD and STFU.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2018 10:39 AM (jxbfJ)

220 Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke at Shanksville.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:39 AM (aK8Pt)

221 The phrase was "islam means peace" - which is bullshit, it means
"submission" - and I'm pretty sure W said it just a few days after 9/11,
in one of the first addresses to Congress.
=====

Ah, yes. Old Christian metaphor -- the peace of the grave.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2018 10:39 AM (MIKMs)

222 Willowed from the last thread:

376 151 Also, on this day in 1973, Gen. Augusto Pinochet and the Chilean military did what they had to do to save their country from Marxism.

I mention it because I think this historical event is relevant to the situation in which we find ourselves currently.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2018 08:38 AM (EZebt)


Ooh, I didn't see this earlier. I'm wearing my Pinochet's Helicopter Tours t-shirt today.

Deliberately.
Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2018 10:18 AM (xjiRE)

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2018 10:39 AM (xjiRE)

223 The "anti-colonialists" don't seem to have a problem with Western nations being colonized by the Third World.

----------------

The left doesn't hate colonialism for being colonial, they hate it for being the source of Western Civilization. Western Civ stands in the way of global redistributionist collectivism. Don't think the Left's "anti-colonialism" had anything to do with empire, it has to do with jealously and hate and a desire to destroy the nexus of power so they can communize the world.

Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (nRWPy)

224 The thing about muslims is that they might be assimilated and friendly....until suddenly they aren't.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (mCMQ5)

This is true. I'm from Paterson, NJ and Muslims started settling there only in the mid-to late '70's. The were friendly and many started to assimilate--and oh yeah, only a few of the women wore hijabs. But -as is always the case--as soon as they got some numbers, the politicians noticed them and then....the demands.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (NFEMn)

225 100 years from now it will come out that we shot that plane down. We probably couldn't handle that truth now.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:35 AM (NFEMn)


You don't think the passengers stormed the cockpit and brought the plane down?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (lwiT4)

226 The Atlantic did an interview with Obama where he said that he felt like the terrorists were terrorizing because they were poor.

Bin Laden.

HELLLLOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (Boy/L)

227 I saw the picture heading the morning thread - "Falling Man". I love that picture. Firstly, it is fantastic work of art. The repeating gray vertical lines have a quiet solidity to them, but the light tone of the gray also invokes a misty quality. Because they are so similar, it's difficult to tell where one building end and another begins. The gray is also a clean gray--no dirt, debris, or other items to mar it. Then, dividing this abstract image directly in half is the natural shape of the inverted human form. Your eye cannot help but follow his path through the picture. He is dark, with a small dot of red. His pose is unnatural and it give a sense of dread and unbalance to the viewer. The neatness and orderliness of the background are shattered by the chaotic human form. This picture is the absolute image of That Day. That is the power of art.

Secondly, for me, it is a portrait of an anonymous hero. This was a man who stared his murders in the face and defied their plans. He knew he wasn't going to survive that jump. Instead of cowering in terror, burning up, suffocating, he chose defiantly Door #4 and stepped into eternity on his terms.

I used to show this picture in class every semester during the unit on Photography. I would end the class with it and tell my story of "where I was when...". The class would then file out noiselessly.

Posted by: Kris at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (OyyDO)

228 While I agree we could have executed the war more aggressively and with better ROE's, you go with what you have and what you know at the time. America had not been in a war for a long time. Nor had we been in a battle where modern day COIN was used as a strategy.

Bush made mistakes. Some of that is forgivable given the aforementioned. I'll make one exception for the CPA and that asshole Bremmed.

Obama however is unforgivable. Knowing all we knew at the time, he pissed it away for politics.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (k4Tuv)

229 207 The thing about muslims is that they might be assimilated and friendly....until suddenly they aren't.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:33 AM (mCMQ5)



Yes. I am becoming increasingly worried about this. I have a family member married to a muslim. Recently, following a family gathering, my son pulled me aside and cautioned me. He said that this family member, who seems completely and totally Westernized, had made some statements that --- weren't.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (lwiT4)

Even if the muslim in question is assimilated & Westernized, by the time he has grandkids, they'll revert to form. Why wouldn't they? Nothing in Western education and culture teaches kids, of whatever religion, that America is worth loving or supporting.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (7HtZB)

230 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 11, 2018 10:19 AM (HaL55)


Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:23 AM (nBr1j)

-----------

There are a lot of people of all political persuasions who are all et up inside with frustration and rage these days. I am certain that the internet makes it easier to see them and hear them than before; I am ambivalent that having the ability to express that frustration and rage at any time and anonymously has done much good for relieving that frustration and rage.

I keep a close watch on this rage of mine
Keep it from getting loose all the time
I am sure that would be a real bad sign
Cause I'm wary, I draw the line.

Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (hLRSq)

231 Instead the Saudis took in no Muslim refugees, but offered to build 300 mosques in Germany. They seem to be all about the outreach (conquering).

Guess who is the major funder of Islamic outreach in the US.

Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at September 11, 2018 10:41 AM (Bdeb0)

232
Trump up.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 10:41 AM (LOgQ4)

233 100 years from now it will come out that we shot that plane down. We probably couldn't handle that truth now.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:35 AM (NFEMn)

If we shot it down, the debris field would have been large - the plane would have broken up in the air. The jets scrambled to intercept had no ammo on board, due to stupid Clinton-era rules, and had orders to ram.

We got lucky, the most likely story is that the passengers fought back, and either they or the hijackers put the plane into a fatal dive to deny it to the other.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at September 11, 2018 10:41 AM (J+mig)

234 PDT up at Shanksville.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:41 AM (aK8Pt)

235 ''murdered on this day''

starting out with a punch

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 10:41 AM (LOgQ4)

236 Morning Horde.

I will never Forget and I will never Forgive. Not for 2001 and the 3000 or 2012 and Benghazi.

Burn them all.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 11, 2018 10:42 AM (9CkBG)

237
''remember the day America fought back''

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 10:42 AM (LOgQ4)

238 Where is he shooting his mouth off? You guys keep saying it but never post what he's said.
Postwhoed by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:38 AM (2DOZq)

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The guy for 8 years never responded to his critics while he was in office. For another 8 years he never once responded to King Putt's criticisms of his Admimistration.

Suddenly... with the emergence of President Teh Donald, he finds his voice and starts either directly or indirectly criticing Presindet Trump.

Start with his remarks at McCains funeral.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:43 AM (8XRCm)

239 Come play with us, Danny. Forever and ever and ever.

Posted by: Creepy Shiny Kids at September 11, 2018 10:43 AM (fRgt5)

240 #204. He attacked Tobruk?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2018 10:43 AM (OLCnA)

241 I have a nutty friend who says McCain took the "Rommel option".

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:36 AM (mCMQ5)


He attacked at Tobruk?

Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 10:43 AM (hLRSq)

242 heard Commissar Hogg's comments in Toronto. What a vapid. brainless twat. Then I thought there really isn't much difference between Hogg and Barry.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2018 10:31 AM (OLCnA)

It embarrasses me that a Canadian audience wanted to listen to him but maybe, just maybe, his evident idiocy will unveil him for what he is -a child, who thinks childish things, has nothing of value to say and is not particularly intelligent.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:43 AM (nBr1j)

243 So who's the first lefty that will say something stupid today? Around here we could always count on Deval Patrick, but he's probably too busy planning his 2020 presidential run.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (jDF8P)

244 203 Two years ago, bring my daughter home from college, we stopped at the Shanksville site. Very out of the way, rural. Driving in, I wondered what the locals thought and experienced that day when that jetliner plummeted to the earth nearby.
Looking out over the where the impact crater was, you can't help but tear up. So quiet, so peaceful, yet a place where tragedy occurred. Seeing mementos, flowers, Rosaries left along the walkway.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2018 10:29 AM (jxbfJ)

100 years from now it will come out that we shot that plane down. We probably couldn't handle that truth now.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:35 AM (NFEMn)

I could have handled it then. After 3 planes were hijacked and crashed into the WTC and Pentagon, a fourth hijacked plane would have to had been brought down no matter what. it would have been a terrible thing, but absolutely necessary before another building full of people was destroyed.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (7HtZB)

245 And not because our "elites" acted. Because average people in a nightmare scenario stepped up.

Hah. Delusional "average people" thinking they have the expertise needed to manage a complex, nuanced situation that they couldn't possibly understand? You must be kidding!

Don't you remember what The New Yorker thought about the stupid lumpenproles not keeping in their place?

https://tinyurl.com/ybz8plpv

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (Nqglq)

246 224 This is true. I'm from Paterson, NJ and Muslims started settling there only in the mid-to late '70's. The were friendly and many started to assimilate--and oh yeah, only a few of the women wore hijabs. But -as is always the case--as soon as they got some numbers, the politicians noticed them and then....the demands.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (NFEMn)

Ultimately, they have to conquer and kill, or Allah will send them to hell for not being as much of a child-humping savage as Muhammad was.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (UnA8+)

247 PDT up at Shanksville.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:41 AM (aK8Pt)



I wish I were strong enough to listen. I just can't.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (lwiT4)

248 Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:35 AM (NFEMn)

Your nuts if you believe that. There was a woman from Tracfone who was on the phone with Beamer. The line was open, he told her what they were going to do. When they executed and where storming the cockpit, the terrorists crashed the plane. There is also cockpit audio that confirms. There is also a crash skits that shows an almost vertical entry of the aircraft. CFIT.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (k4Tuv)

249 Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:43 AM (8XRCm)

I read the entire transcript. You tell me what part was shooting his mouth off. You can't.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (2DOZq)

250 "Some of you here answered the call and raced to this field 17 years ago. I want to thank you."

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (aK8Pt)

251 243 So who's the first lefty that will say something stupid today? Around here we could always count on Deval Patrick, but he's probably too busy planning his 2020 presidential run.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (jDF8P)

You must not have watched "Morning Joe" (of course you didn't, no one does). Joe Scarborough said Trump is a greater threat to America than 9/11.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:45 AM (7HtZB)

252 243 So who's the first lefty that will say something stupid today? Around here we could always count on Deval Patrick, but he's probably too busy planning his 2020 presidential run.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (jDF8P)

I'll pick Whoopi Goldberg.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 11, 2018 10:45 AM (UnA8+)

253 "Our college students aren't old enough to remember what happened here." (Schweiker)

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:26 AM (aK8Pt)


He'd be more on the nose if he said "Our college students think we deserve what happened here."

One wonders if Teh Donald is going to have the stones to name and shame Islam today.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2018 10:45 AM (kqsXK)

254 Wow Quiet Man - that was pretty freaky thought patterns right there.

Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 10:45 AM (hLRSq)

255 a fourth hijacked plane would have to had been
brought down no matter what. it would have been a terrible thing, but
absolutely necessary before another building full of people was
destroyed.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (7HtZB)



IIRC, Bush had issued an order that it be shot down if it got close to DC.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:45 AM (lwiT4)

256 Gal Gadot photo referenced above.

https://bit.ly/2MlEi5L

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 10:45 AM (+y/Ru)

257 247 PDT up at Shanksville.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:41 AM (aK8Pt)

I wish I were strong enough to listen. I just can't.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (lwiT4)

It's all good. We'll tell you highlights!

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:45 AM (aK8Pt)

258 LOL morons thinking alike 240,241

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:46 AM (mCMQ5)

259
Trump is nailing it.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 11, 2018 10:46 AM (PtOP4)

260
''evil men bent on terror and conquest''

Sure doesn't sound like Hussein.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 10:46 AM (LOgQ4)

261
Your nuts if you believe that. There was a woman from Tracfone who was on the phone with Beamer. The line was open, he told her what they were going to do. When they executed and where storming the cockpit, the terrorists crashed the plane. There is also cockpit audio that confirms. There is also a crash skits that shows an almost vertical entry of the aircraft. CFIT.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (k4Tuv)

I hope I'm wrong. Beamer and the others acted bravely regardless.
But let's just say I've grown cynical about anything the government tells me.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:46 AM (NFEMn)

262 230 There are a lot of people of all political persuasions who are all et up inside with frustration and rage these days. I am certain that the internet makes it easier to see them and hear them than before; I am ambivalent that having the ability to express that frustration and rage at any time and anonymously has done much good for relieving that frustration and rage.

I keep a close watch on this rage of mine
Keep it from getting loose all the time
I am sure that would be a real bad sign
Cause I'm wary, I draw the line.
Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (hLRSq)

If anything, it's just made the outrage and frustration worse for most people.

And someone, somewhere, has a contingency for how to use it all to their advantage.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 11, 2018 10:47 AM (UnA8+)

263
Jim Moran (D-drunk) was on the floor of the House defending muslims the next morning while the Pentagon in his district was still smoking.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:17 AM (nRWPy)

And yet that vile asshole keeps getting reelected.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&Vsuburbanite at September 11, 2018 10:48 AM (d6Ksn)

264 255
a fourth hijacked plane would have to had been

brought down no matter what. it would have been a terrible thing, but

absolutely necessary before another building full of people was

destroyed.



Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (7HtZB)



IIRC, Bush had issued an order that it be shot down if it got close to DC.


Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:45 AM (lwiT4)

IIRC, There were 2 fighter jets dispatched to intercept. They were unarmed - no missiles. They knew what they would have to do, and that was crash their jet into the plane if need be. The pilots even worked out who would do what.
The jetliner crashed before they were able to intercept.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2018 10:48 AM (jxbfJ)

265 we did NOT shoot that plane down. our planes were not armed. W would never have given an order to shoot anything down. PERIOD. especially if there was a chance muzzies were flying it. W is and always will be garbage in this house. he is a close wingman of the clinton crime syndicate.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 11, 2018 10:48 AM (KP5rU)

266 It's all good. We'll tell you highlights!

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:45 AM (aK8Pt)



Thanks m. Are there family members there, of the ones who took action?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:48 AM (lwiT4)

267 "They stopped the forces of terror."

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:48 AM (aK8Pt)

268 The Katzenjammer kids; the early years.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2018 10:48 AM (iwUO9)

269 247 PDT up at Shanksville.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:41 AM (aK8Pt)



I wish I were strong enough to listen. I just can't.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (lwiT4)

Me neither.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&Vsuburbanite at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (d6Ksn)

270 some said Kasich meant "laid to rest" ... but it was never corrected, and "put to death" is not very close to "laid to rest".

there were plenty of rumors that he was faking the tumor thing to avoid ??? He was certainly central to passing on the Trump/Russia BS. But I never saw real action against him on that ... but maybe it was covert.

The Graham questioning of Kavanaugh was more interesting, on military tribunals. Collaborating with the enemy ... like sending them pallets of cash? Like conspiring with Russia to frame POTUS? Like selling our secrets to China by open email accounts?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (Cus5s)

271 Thanks m. Are there family members there, of the ones who took action?
Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:48 AM (lwiT4)

Yep. And the head of the familys' group.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (aK8Pt)

272 They were unarmed - no missiles. They knew what they would have to do,
and that was crash their jet into the plane if need be. The pilots even
worked out who would do what.


omg, I did not know that. Thank you.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (lwiT4)

273 "But let's just say I've grown cynical about anything the government tells me."

It's not the government. And what Bush said, and what he still repeats, is that the order was given for a shoot down if necessary. He still also talks about how that was the worst of two evils. But better than watching another few thousand people die on the ground.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (k4Tuv)

274 Sahib Mikey, we cracked the Enigma code at the same time

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (OLCnA)

275 I have a friend who is Bosnian Muslim. There is nothing in her appearance, language or lifestyle that seems Muslim. But ultimately who knows.
I have another friend who I would call MINO , Muslim In Name Only, but, again, who knows.

It's a funny if nominal Christians have a revival of faith they usually become better people. If nominal Muslims have a revival of faith they become worse people.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (nBr1j)

276 "A piece of America's heart is buried in this ground." "This field is now a monument to American defiance." "America will never, ever submit to tyranny."

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:50 AM (aK8Pt)

277 Trump certainly sounds better than TFG.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:50 AM (7HtZB)

278
''America will never submit to tyranny'

'radical islamic terrorism'

Sure doesn't sound like Hussein.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 10:50 AM (LOgQ4)

279 I read the entire transcript. You tell me what part was shooting his mouth off. You can't.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (2DOZq)

----

Jeebus Lance. Youre being obtuse.

www.google.com

type in "bush criticises trump"

hit enter

read

then make sure you comprehend.


the last one is important.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:50 AM (8XRCm)

280 Todd Beamer gets a lot of mentions but there were other heroes on that plane. Mike Rowe mentions one on Facebook today. Tom Burnett.http://www.tomburnettfoundation.org/

Posted by: Timon at September 11, 2018 10:51 AM (eiZez)

281 "radical Islamic terrorism"
About what our military is going after.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:51 AM (aK8Pt)

282 That painting?

1) The shifty-eyed minx is hypnotizing your with her swingy little pendant

b) When you go into a trance

>b) POW! Her little thug brother nails you in the snoot with a peach.


Posted by: The Thumbs of Opposition at September 11, 2018 10:51 AM (O74hG)

283
And someone, somewhere, has a contingency for how to use it all to their advantage.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 11, 2018 10:47 AM (UnA8+)


Yeah, and I don't want to be manipulated like that, so I kind of stand back a bit. It is why I do not watch the TV news - I don't like someone emotionally manipulating me.

Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 10:51 AM (hLRSq)

284 Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:50 AM (8XRCm)

Just post one . That's all.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:51 AM (2DOZq)

285 So...
Pagliacci had children.... did not know that....

Posted by: kraken at September 11, 2018 10:51 AM (ffWPP)

286 So who's the first lefty that will say something stupid today? Around here we could always count on Deval Patrick, but he's probably too busy planning his 2020 presidential run.


Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2018 10:44 AM (jDF8P)


I fully expect Charlie (Tall Deval) Baker to prostrate himself at some Boston mosque today, like the lickspittle toady he is.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2018 10:52 AM (kqsXK)

287 And after 9/11, muslim holidays started appearing on calendars and being observed in public.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 09:58 AM (7HtZB)

Serves as a good reminder to the rest of us to lock and load.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2018 10:52 AM (iwUO9)

288 Rommel took poison and protected his family rather than be outed as a traitor to Hitler and executed.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:52 AM (mCMQ5)

289 Todd Beamer's daughter, unborn at the time, will be wrapping up high school this year, if I have my math right.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:52 AM (lwiT4)

290
I keep a close watch on this rage of mine
Keep it from getting loose all the time
I am sure that would be a real bad sign
Cause I'm wary, I draw the line.
Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 10:40 AM (hLRSq)

If anything, it's just made the outrage and frustration worse for most people.

And someone, somewhere, has a contingency for how to use it all to their advantage.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 11, 2018 10:47 AM (UnA8+)

I think Twitter has degraded politics and journalism.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:52 AM (nBr1j)

291 (162) Islam is first a political system, incompatible with what we know as "civilization". That's it.
Looks like our heirs will spend their lives figuring this out, too.

Posted by: klaftern at September 11, 2018 10:52 AM (RuIsu)

292 270 some said Kasich meant "laid to rest" ... but it was never corrected, and "put to death" is not very close to "laid to rest".

Yeah, it's just amazing that an elderly man with brain cancer died. Trump had to have been behind it.

Mailman's son has gone completely around the bend and is now spinning stupid conspiracy theories.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&Vsuburbanite at September 11, 2018 10:52 AM (d6Ksn)

293 My mom's morning boyfriend is here, and he is mean. I hate it when he plays with me.

Posted by: Comrade at September 11, 2018 10:52 AM (f8iyc)

294 Anyone who says Trump is worse than 9-11 is a sub human. Why anyone listens to that crap I'll never know.

Posted by: navybrat, back to the fog at September 11, 2018 10:52 AM (w7KSn)

295 Oops... sorry about the painting snark... just got here... did not check the zeitgeist.....

Posted by: kraken at September 11, 2018 10:53 AM (ffWPP)

296 I will never Forget and I will never Forgive. Not for 2001 and the 3000 or 2012 and Benghazi.

Burn them all.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 11, 2018 10:42 AM (9CkBG)

Amen.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 11, 2018 10:53 AM (kG5hP)

297 One thing I'll bet Osama Bin Ladin never anticipated in response to the 911 attacks.

The American Left bending over backwards to kiss Islams ass.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:18 AM (8XRCm)


That may have been the moment when they realized what valuable assets the Muslims would make in the quest to destroy American culture and degrade its values. Plus, votes.

The policy of bringing in Muslims is bullet proof against opposition, no matter what happens. If more terrorist attacks happen, opponents will be branded as bigots who are blaming the vast majority of "peaceful" Muslims, and this will be used as an excuse to bring in even more.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 10:53 AM (/qEW2)

298 Why does the girl have a censor?

Posted by: Surfperch at September 11, 2018 10:53 AM (zTtjJ)

299
I hope I'm wrong. Beamer and the others acted bravely regardless.

But let's just say I've grown cynical about anything the government tells me.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:46 AM (NFEMn)

================
Cynical, yes obviously. But you should really also consider you might be a little nuts to want to take to the internet to sully this day with delirium.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Red wave building at September 11, 2018 10:53 AM (CaRQc)

300 The story about a widow's request that her husband's wedding ring be found in the field. And it was. Inscribed "All My Love."

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:53 AM (aK8Pt)

301 Our retard morning markets report.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2018 10:54 AM (mCMQ5)

302 Mark Bingham was on flight 93. Played rugby for U.C. Berkeley.

GO CAL BEARS!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2018 10:54 AM (wYseH)

303 fucking comrade, nike shareholder and knob gobbler of krappernick.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 11, 2018 10:54 AM (KP5rU)

304 Sitting here listening to PDT's speech with tears running down my face and remembering.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 11, 2018 10:54 AM (ZUl9V)

305 "We will remember the 40."

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:55 AM (aK8Pt)

306 298

Potty-mouth.

Posted by: The Thumbs of Opposition at September 11, 2018 10:55 AM (O74hG)

307

Just post one . That's all.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 11, 2018 10:51 AM (2DOZq)


Jesus Fucking Crhist.

Trafficking in bombast and insult, phony controversies and manufactured outrage. Its a politics that pretends to be brave and tough, but is instead born of fear.


http://tinyurl.com/yauxm6bs
http://tinyurl.com/ybfutwe8
http://tinyurl.com/ycn6rpkq
http://tinyurl.com/y7txx2do

now... go the fuck away.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 10:55 AM (8XRCm)

308 Why does the girl have a censor?

Posted by: Surfperch at September 11, 2018 10:53 AM (zTtjJ)


She has a real potty-mouth.

Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 10:55 AM (hLRSq)

309 I was the only female in there without a head scarf. Made me want to strip down to my panties and eat raw bacon.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2018 10:09 AM (nRWPy)


Even if retailers didn't hire illegals, they'd still be in favor of importing more shitholers. Good for business.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 10:55 AM (/qEW2)

310 Anyhoo.

Hoping Carolinas/VA Horde are well along in preparing for their imminent unwanted visitor.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 11, 2018 10:55 AM (AM1GF)

311 What I know is that I find it impossible to trust Islam, ever again... before 9/11, I did not really know what is was truly about.

Posted by: kraken at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (ffWPP)

312 It's a funny if nominal Christians have a revival of faith they usually become better people. If nominal Muslims have a revival of faith they become worse people.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (nBr1j)

You know, there have been many conversions from Islam to Christianity (usually of the RC of Orthodox brand). I personally know of several. Including an entire family of six.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (NFEMn)

313 "America's future is not written by our enemies. America's future is written by our heroes."

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (aK8Pt)

314 Okay - I am aligning with the Horde a little too much today.

Posted by: Sahib Mikey's Safari Adventure & Clubbing Extravaganza is now stocked and open! at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (hLRSq)

315 Todd Beamer always stands out in my mind, in part because he was a Wheaton College alumni, and I have ties there.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (lwiT4)

316 How fitting that PDT chose Shanksville

Posted by: Ben Had at September 11, 2018 10:57 AM (ZUl9V)

317 PDT was very sincere. He's a big hit in Shanksville.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:57 AM (aK8Pt)

318 Only a soulless asshole cares about the price of Nike stock today. Leftists are inhuman.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&Vsuburbanite at September 11, 2018 10:57 AM (d6Ksn)

319 310 Anyhoo.

Hoping Carolinas/VA Horde are well along in preparing for their imminent unwanted visitor.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 11, 2018 10:55 AM (AM1GF)

The first three days of my planned vacation to VA next week all look to be raining.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:58 AM (7HtZB)

320 312 It's a funny if nominal Christians have a revival of faith they usually become better people. If nominal Muslims have a revival of faith they become worse people.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (nBr1j)

You know, there have been many conversions from Islam to Christianity (usually of the RC of Orthodox brand). I personally know of several. Including an entire family of six.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (NFEMn)

I hear reports of Muslims converting to Christianity.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:58 AM (nBr1j)

321 I do not view this day as a day of mourning... to me it is a day of anger.

Posted by: kraken at September 11, 2018 10:58 AM (ffWPP)

322 Amen.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:58 AM (aK8Pt)

323 313
"America's future is not written by our enemies. America's future is written by our heroes."

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (aK8Pt)

it was a beautiful speech

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 11, 2018 10:58 AM (0O7c5)

324 320 312 It's a funny if nominal Christians have a revival of faith they usually become better people. If nominal Muslims have a revival of faith they become worse people.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (nBr1j)

You know, there have been many conversions from Islam to Christianity (usually of the RC of Orthodox brand). I personally know of several. Including an entire family of six.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (NFEMn)

I hear reports of Muslims converting to Christianity.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:58 AM (nBr1j)

There's a reason why Christianity is outlawed or restricted in most muslim countries. They know they couldn't stand up to the competition.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 10:59 AM (7HtZB)

325 livestream ended

Posted by: m at September 11, 2018 10:59 AM (aK8Pt)

326 321: precisely.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 11, 2018 11:00 AM (KP5rU)

327 312 You know, there have been many conversions from
Islam to Christianity (usually of the RC of Orthodox brand). I
personally know of several. Including an entire family of six.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (NFEMn)

Coulter suggested 17 years ago that what muslims really needed to do was convert to Christianity.

Excoriated, natch.

Posted by: The Thumbs of Opposition at September 11, 2018 11:00 AM (O74hG)

328 We got lucky, the most likely story is that the passengers fought back, and either they or the hijackers put the plane into a fatal dive to deny it to the other."

It's also possible that in a wild fight to control the cockpit, the stick was inadvertantly pushed into a nose down position. The plane was flying at a very low altitude at the time, it would have impacted within a few seconds of that happening. We'll never really know how those last few seconds played out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 11, 2018 11:00 AM (k1TUh)

329 Goooood morning.

Saw the two kids in the pic first thing, and such thoughts sprung to mind as

Hansel and Gretel really did look plump and tasty.

Mom we do not want to wear these for trick or treating!

They're not happy about the first day of school.


Alas, sadly and oddly, the actual first thing that came to my mind when I brought up the pic was, twin towers. Because, today.
✈❚❚

Posted by: mindful webworker - barely here, but here, at September 11, 2018 11:00 AM (Yf6eY)

330 Great job on the faces in this painting.
They still look like little clowns, though.
*shudder*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2018 11:00 AM (bcbK8)

331 I hear reports of Muslims converting to Christianity.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:58 AM (nBr1j)



Lots. And in the Middle East, at great personal risk.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 11:00 AM (lwiT4)

332 Cynical, yes obviously. But you should really also consider you might be a little nuts to want to take to the internet to sully this day with delirium.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Red wave building at September 11, 2018 10:53 AM (CaRQc)

I'm not delirious. I believe that plane was shot down--as it should have been if it was a threat. I also believe that the passengers acted bravely.
I know people who died that day. I supported Bush. I supported the invasions. But 17 years on, I reserve the right to not believe everything that I'm told.
i'm sorry.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 11:00 AM (NFEMn)

333 Christianity is about hope, based on a guarantee, signed in blood.

Posted by: kraken at September 11, 2018 11:00 AM (ffWPP)

334 How fitting that PDT chose Shanksville

Posted by: Ben Had at September 11, 2018 10:57 AM


Like I mentioned earlier, he chose that one - out of the three he could have attended - where 'America fought back'.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 11, 2018 11:01 AM (LOgQ4)

335 321 I do not view this day as a day of mourning... to me it is a day of anger.
Posted by: kraken at September 11, 2018 10:58 AM (ffWPP)

Never forgive, never forget.

I am wearing black though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2018 11:01 AM (bcbK8)

336
181 Circus Midgets.

oompa loompa royalty

Posted by: Anachronda at September 11, 2018 11:01 AM (xGZ+b)

337 And waiting for the media to trash Trumps speech in 3...2...1

Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at September 11, 2018 11:01 AM (Bdeb0)

338 The painting screams, "Hey sis, we made it past age 3. Maybe we'll die old at 50".

Posted by: bill in arkansas at September 11, 2018 11:02 AM (xzqr4)

339 People are talking about the path to 9/11. If you want to watch a documentary that will make your hair stand on end, watch the Frontline (yeah, probably the last honest thing PBS journos did) "The Man Who knew." It is really, really interesting, with a twist at the end that Hollywood couldn't write. And, yes, The Clinton Cabal had numerous opportunities to stop this tragedy.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2018 11:02 AM (ty7RM)

340 Hot Chinese actress disappeared after ranking last on Chicom social responsibility scale.

https://bit.ly/2Mk822R

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 11:03 AM (+y/Ru)

341 181 Circus Midgets.

oompa loompa royalty
Posted by: Anachronda

No, no no, AtC and her brother. You can tell by the chain mace in her hand and the beaten down look of her brother.

Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at September 11, 2018 11:03 AM (Bdeb0)

342 I need to get out to that memorial. My brother's wife is a flight attendant, flight 93 was her plane, it was her normal route. In a twist of fate she wasn't on it that day, but she lost a lot of friends that day. Her asshole leftist father still thinks we shouldn't have done shit about it in the ME. He convinced me the left is indeed satan's minions on earth.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 11, 2018 11:03 AM (9Om/r)

343 Coulter suggested 17 years ago that what muslims really needed to do was convert to Christianity.

------------

So should Democrats.

Posted by: SH at September 11, 2018 11:04 AM (sX1BW)

344 This day always reminds me of what I would die for... in my case, three things....

Posted by: kraken at September 11, 2018 11:04 AM (ffWPP)

345 -
--
And waiting for the media to trash Trumps speech in 3...2...1


Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at September 11, 2018 11:01 AM

-------------------

I'm betting they trashed it before it started.


Posted by: irright at September 11, 2018 11:04 AM (pMGkg)

346 >>>It's easy to blame Obama for the influx of Muslims--because he IS to blame.

He felt he ought to punish us for the Crusades.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 11:04 AM (/qEW2)

347 "Mailman's son has gone completely around the bend and is now spinning stupid conspiracy theories.Posted by: Donna
yeah, he was probably just trying to cast blame on Trump somehow ... and the whole TrumpHateWeek funeral extravaganza focused on evil Trump versus Saint McCain (in the face of all evidence)
But I go to my happy place sometimes, where the military tribunals are all lined up for the worst of them, and others are allowed to resign. The tribunals really are in order for those partaking in the coup, which could be many of the CIA operatives running the political ops (psy ops such as Trump Russia as cover for the Hillary DeepState mob crimes, and their plot to overthrow our Republic)

Hard to imagine that kind of crap trying to find a jury of their peers in DC. Their peers are all fellow seditionists.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2018 11:04 AM (Cus5s)

348 My brother's wife is a flight attendant, flight 93 was her plane, it was
her normal route. In a twist of fate she wasn't on it that day, but she
lost a lot of friends that day.


Oh no.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2018 11:05 AM (lwiT4)

349 346 >>>It's easy to blame Obama for the influx of Muslims--because he IS to blame.

He felt he ought to punish us for the Crusades.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 11:04 AM (/qEW2)

The mocha infidel's day will come, too.
Deus Vult.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2018 11:06 AM (bcbK8)

350 Punk monkey up

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2018 11:06 AM (rIQuo)

351 #346. I've been at some places in the Chicago suburbs where you'd think you're in Riyadh

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2018 11:06 AM (OLCnA)

352 He felt he ought to punish us for the Crusades.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 11:04 AM (/qEW2)

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Battle of Tours
By Charles Martel
Fought in what is now FRANCE
Expelled the Muslim caliphate

Some 200 years BEFOR the FIRST Crusade.


Item #189,563 of things not taught in public schools.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 11, 2018 11:06 AM (8XRCm)

353 Hard to imagine that kind of crap trying to find a jury of their peers in DC. Their peers are all fellow seditionists. Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2018 11:04 AM (Cus5s)
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Museum campus. Real business and legislation scattered around the country.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2018 11:07 AM (MIKMs)

354 275 I have a friend who is Bosnian Muslim. There is nothing in her appearance, language or lifestyle that seems Muslim. But ultimately who knows.
I have another friend who I would call MINO , Muslim In Name Only, but, again, who knows.

It's a funny if nominal Christians have a revival of faith they usually become better people. If nominal Muslims have a revival of faith they become worse people.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:49 AM (nBr1j

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I've read that when the nascent Al-Qaida sent operatives to Bosnia and Kosovo to "assist" the muslims there they wound up throwing their hands up and leaving because they were just a bunch of europeans who liked their booze and the war was an ethinc one with a thin layer of religon. I wouldn't be suprised if she was indeed westernized.

Posted by: Jackal at September 11, 2018 11:07 AM (ekISO)

355 So the planes were shot down? They then all changed course, two flew into towers and one flew into the Pentagon, and one failed and flew into the ground. That is pretty impressive snipering, any way you look at it.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 11, 2018 11:07 AM (Kcf2u)

356 337 And waiting for the media to trash Trumps speech in 3...2...1
Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at September 11, 2018 11:01 AM (Bdeb0)


They already have the articles pre-written. They just left spaces to fill in with quotes.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2018 11:09 AM (xjiRE)

357 342 I need to get out to that memorial. My brother's wife is a flight attendant, flight 93 was her plane, it was her normal route. In a twist of fate she wasn't on it that day, but she lost a lot of friends that day. Her asshole leftist father still thinks we shouldn't have done shit about it in the ME. He convinced me the left is indeed satan's minions on earth.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 11, 2018 11:03 AM (9Om/r)

the Left and islam are Satan's twin engines of destruction.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2018 11:10 AM (7HtZB)

358 358 And that falling man picture below gives me the tingles. That dive rates a solid 10!
Posted by: Comrade at September 11, 2018 11:11 AM (CGz5E)

Boot this ass-wipe!

Posted by: WeBoned! at September 11, 2018 11:12 AM (1rK0t)

359 So the planes were shot down? They then all changed course, two flew into towers and one flew into the Pentagon, and one failed and flew into the ground. That is pretty impressive snipering, any way you look at it.
Posted by: washrivergal at September 11, 2018 11:07 AM (Kcf2u)

Who's saying that?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 11:13 AM (NFEMn)

360 And waiting for the media to trash Trumps speech in 3...2...1

Trump SEIZES on anti-muslim sentiment in 9-11 memorial !!

Posted by: MSM at September 11, 2018 11:14 AM (WXSv6)

361 Posted by: washrivergal at September 11, 2018 11:07 AM (Kcf2u)


I think he meant just the one in PA.. by that time I think it was being discussed, at least the possibility of having to shoot down any planes that might still be flying since by then we were absolutely certain we were under attack.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 11, 2018 11:15 AM (kG5hP)

362 You know, there have been many conversions from Islam to Christianity (usually of the RC of Orthodox brand). I personally know of several. Including an entire family of six.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (NFEMn)

I hear reports of Muslims converting to Christianity.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at September 11, 2018 10:58 AM (nBr1j)


Heard that years ago (large numbers of conversions in the ME). Doesn't seem to have panned out. I imagine it's only a sliver. After over a millennia of selective breeding, most are probably incapable of it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2018 11:17 AM (/qEW2)

363 nood

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2018 11:17 AM (jDF8P)

364 My dad (retired American pilot), watched Flight 11 take off in front of him at Logan. He ended up getting diverted/landing in Buffalo. Got a call from my mom a few hours later that she had heard from him and told me where he was.

Posted by: Mainah at September 11, 2018 11:21 AM (B+qrE)

365 I think he meant just the one in PA.. by that time I think it was being discussed, at least the possibility of having to shoot down any planes that might still be flying since by then we were absolutely certain we were under attack.
Posted by: Jewells45 at September 11, 2018 11:15 AM (kG5hP)

I remember watching the news and every so often they'd cut in with reports of another plane, and another. I think I remember some reports that ended up being false later. I dismissed them because I couldn't wrap my head around what was going on. It was all so unbelievable.

Posted by: Kris at September 11, 2018 11:22 AM (OyyDO)

366 I've read that when the nascent Al-Qaida sent operatives to Bosnia and Kosovo to "assist" the muslims there they wound up throwing their hands up and leaving because they were just a bunch of europeans who liked their booze and the war was an ethinc one with a thin layer of religon. I wouldn't be suprised if she was indeed westernized.
Posted by: Jackal at September 11, 2018 11:07 AM (ekISO)


Some did and some didn't. I started to read a book on Bosnia called Unholy Terror by John Schindler but gave up on it because it wasn't well written although the research seemed to be solid; plus I think Schindler is a NeverTrump. Izetbegovic, the muslim (quit capitalizing it autocucumber) leader of the country travelled to Iran a lot and was very devious in his dealings with the MFM, who loved to be duped by the radicals. They never passed up an opportunity to say positive things about the rock worshipers and openly shilled for Slick to militarily intervene on their behalf.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 11, 2018 11:30 AM (y7DUB)

367 340
Hot Chinese actress disappeared after ranking last on Chicom social responsibility scale.



https://bit.ly/2Mk822R

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 11, 2018 11:03 AM (+y/Ru)


Article said she was dead last with a score of 0.

I guess you don't want a score of 0

Posted by: Bill Kristol at September 11, 2018 11:31 AM (ymnmz)

368 Kristol sock off

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 11, 2018 11:31 AM (ymnmz)

369 Is that an apple or a peach in the boy's hand?

He just loves his sister so much.

Posted by: Beelzebubba at September 11, 2018 12:52 PM (o7l6R)

370 100 years from now it will come out that we shot that plane down. We probably couldn't handle that truth now.

From where, and by whom?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 11, 2018 01:49 PM (o7l6R)

371 362
You know, there have been many conversions from Islam to Christianity
(usually of the RC of Orthodox brand). I personally know of several.
Including an entire family of six.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2018 10:56 AM (NFEMn)

The non-jihadi muslims are devout believers and even assign prophet status to Jesus. My Lebanese friends tell me that shi'a muslims and druze attend shrines to the Blessed Mother, because they also revere her. It's not a huge stretch for truth-seeking muslims to convert to the apostolic faiths.
I used to pray for mass conversion of muslims to Christianity. I believe they would be an asset and strengthen and support the mission of Christians on earth.

Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2018 02:11 PM (DJFLF)

372 But mom she'e has better jewels then i do and she is pinching me

Posted by: Tamaa the Bird of 1000 Voices at September 11, 2018 04:21 PM (wGqjj)

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